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A few weeks ago someone posted about a driver with a car in the Philippines. I can't seem to find it now. I think he was in Cavite. Can you help? I will be there the first of March. Have not been in the Philippines since 1979.
The report on the driver in Cavite can be found here.
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Robb
Tony Hoeprano
02-01-09, 05:00
I'd like to stay in the Philippines for 3 months(preferably Makati City) and would like to know the best choice of staying in condo/apartment.
1. Would it be best to search online?
2. would it be better for a local to book the condo, avoiding the so-called skin tax?
It seems many places want 1st two months and last 2 months deposit for a total of 4 months!
Also, are these places open for negotiation?
My fellow mongers,
While there are lots of suggestions in the forum to buyin' a SIM card and getting money from ATMs, I didnot see a posting on where this can be done. After arriving at the international terminal, where is the best place to buy a SIM card and get pesos for the taxi? I'll be staying at the Hyatt so any suggestions for that area would also be apprciated.
As soon as you get your luggage and clear customers, there are a bunch of money changers straight ahead. The bank on the far right always seems to give the best rate. There is a machine outside customs that sells phone and sim cards. If you can wait until you get to the Hyatt, just buy one at the closest 7/11.
My fellow mongers,
While there are lots of suggestions in the forum to buyin' a SIM card and getting money from ATMs, I didnot see a posting on where this can be done. After arriving at the international terminal, where is the best place to buy a SIM card and get pesos for the taxi? I'll be staying at the Hyatt so any suggestions for that area would also be apprciated.With regards to your phone be sure its a gsm triband or quadband phone. It's best to have it unlocked before you go but if you don't have time you can have it done there. If you do it there the term is to "open line" it instead of unlock it. You're probably in the loop on this but I thought I would mention it for those that may not be.
I have one night in Manila soon. Where is a good place to go for some action. What do the girls at EDSA cost? I've been to L. A. Cafe before but never been anywhere else. Nothing in Makati. I am from America so prefer that is not geared to Asians and used to "foreign" customers. What can I expect for BF price.
Thanks for the help.If you've never been to EDSA it's definitely worth a visit. There are 2 hotels across the street from there. One is the Copacabana, medium quality and medium price, and the Heritage, higher quality, higher price. I have stayed at the Copacabana a couple of times and the quality was fine for what I needed. I don't have current info on the barfines but it's available in the Manila thread. The last time I was there the bars didnt open until 6 pm. If you need an earlier warmup then LA Cafe is only a p70 or so taxi ride away.
I'd like to stay in the Philippines for 3 months(preferably Makati City) and would like to know the best choice of staying in condo/apartment.
1. Would it be best to search online?
2. would it be better for a local to book the condo, avoiding the so-called skin tax?
Also, are these places open for negotiation?Hi Tony,
This has been discussed before but here is what I know about it. These sites seem to have pretty good deals:
http://www.vrbo.com/vacation-rentals/region/asia/philippines#7247
http://www.pearlslettingagency.com/#
http://www.buyandsellph.com/
Also, I can personally recommend the Somerset Salcedo in Makati. It is an apartment with maid service everyday. I would compare it to a 4star hotel. It is nice but expensive depending on your budget. Just google somerset salcedo and you will find it. There are a couple of somerset apartments. The olympia is a dump, the other is nice also.
As far as these 3 sites I have not used them but the prices seem to be good. I would probably book into a hotel for 2-3 days that you know will be decent. Then I would go and look at these apartments before I book one to make sure of their quality. Also, if you decide on one to stay in make sure to view the apartment you will be staying in instead of the "model. "
Also, I would recommend only booking/paying for a month/2 weeks at a time. That way if you find a better deal/get sick of the filipinos or any one of a thousand reasons I can think of you decide to leave you are not fighting to get your money back.
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The report on the driver in Cavite can be found here.
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RobbThanks for the info.
Bob
Horntoad and Dan 357,
Thanks for the info.
Dana
Are there any places that will rent me a cellphone in Manila? I don't have one and usually just get a pay-as-you-go cheapie or a rental when I am overseas if I need one. Any suggestions will be welcome!
Lenience
Azmodeus Fl
02-04-09, 03:04
I will be bringing an old G3 phone with me and will be traveling around the Philippines and need the best coverage.
Are there any places that will rent me a cellphone in Manila? I don't have one and usually just get a pay-as-you-go cheapie or a rental when I am overseas if I need one. Any suggestions will be welcome!
Some cp shops will rent but for around 1500 php or less, you can purchase a good used phone!
I will be bringing an old G3 phone with me and will be traveling around the Philippines and need the best coverage.
Smart usually has the best coverage, at least where I hang.
More and more women are using Smart these days!
Hi guys
Never been to the Phils before and I have a chance of 3 nights there at the end of a work trip. I will be in Manila. Would the experts/expats suggest staying in Manila for that time or would going to Angeles City be worth the effort? Thanks in advance.
Whizzkid
Manila
______
1. Better food and accomodation although more expensive.
2. Better looking girls.
3. Girls are expensive.
4. Freelancers are plenty.
5. Big congested city.
6. Many choices for mongering venues.
7. Scam city-watch out.
8. Not very safe at night except some areas.
Angeles city
___________
1. Food is not good.
2. Plenty of girls to choose from.
3. Not many freelancers.
4. Girls tend to be more GFE.
5. Girls are cheaper in the sense barfine includes everything.
6. Quiet laid back atmosphere.
So I would say spend two nights in manila and two nights in AC.
Blackangst
02-05-09, 02:01
although i generally agree with sammon, if youre smart manila can be about the same price as ac. if you go the FL route youre looking at 1500php overnight, and if youre patient you can find an 8+ pretty easily. thats less than ac if you include tip. hotel same...$50-$60/night about the same as what you get in ac for same price. if youre using edsa then it will cost a bit more but the quality is better. an ac 8 is a manila 5. ymmv of course but ive never found manila to be THAT much more.
If you only have 3 nights, and this is your first time in P.I., I would just stay in Manila. Book a hotel in advance by phone, stay where you think is good after reading the forum, and relax. Scout around and find out the best way to go to A.C. the next time, not this time. Learn from the reports here, you will be plenty busy for your 3 nights.
ShadowAxis
02-05-09, 08:45
I would agree. Depending on the time of day it can take 2 (midnight through 7 AM) to 5 hours (weekly rush) to get to Angeles. Find a nice place in Malate near Robinsons. And make excursions to Makati and EDSA. The biggest problem you'll likely have is to ditch one girl so you can go bag another.
If you only have 3 nights, and this is your first time in P.I., I would just stay in Manila. Book a hotel in advance by phone, stay where you think is good after reading the forum, and relax. Scout around and find out the best way to go to A.C. the next time, not this time. Learn from the reports here, you will be plenty busy for your 3 nights.
Professional
02-06-09, 04:56
Hi guys
Never been to the Phils before and I have a chance of 3 nights there at the end of a work trip. I will be in Manila. Would the experts/expats suggest staying in Manila for that time or would going to Angeles City be worth the effort? Thanks in advance.
WhizzkidPersonally I think you should go to AC first time in PI rather spending your time learning the ropes in manila you can be in AC where the action is concentrated into a small area easy pickings. IMHO
Just been sent this and had to share
Apologies if been done before.
"PHRASE" (TRANSLATION) ----------------------------------------------------------------
"Hello, Honeyko!" (Hello, Moneybag!)
"Kumasta Ka Na?" (How are you, future boyfriend?)
"You Boboy!" (You're a fat pig!)
"Miss na miss kita!" (I miss your money!)
"Mahal na mahal kita!" (I love your money!)
"I come!" (Would you hurry up and come, I'm tired and I want to watch TV.)
"We go boom boom?" (I'd like to watch TV.)
"Where you staying?" (Where am I staying tonight? Does it have aircon, minibar, and nice pool?)
"Where you from?" (Where will you move me and my family?)
"What your job?" (I have a large family, so you better be able to support them!)
"Will you support me?" (Will you support me, my Filipino boyfriend, our two children, and sixteen relatives?)
"You buy me ladies drink?" (May I have 50 pesos, please?)
"You pay my barfine?" (May I have 500 pesos, please?)
"You barfine my friend?" (May I have 1000 pesos, please?)
"You cute!" (I'm cute, you're an ugly, bald slob)
"You handsome!" (You have some hair left, how nice!)
"You healthy!" (You're fat and your breath smells!)
"You kind man!" (You're a stupid fool who pays me too much!)
"You barfine me tomorrow?" (Are you my gravy train?)
"You butterfly?" (Are you smart?)
"I'm 18" (I'm 16.)
"I'm 21" (I'm 32.)
"I work here four months only" (I've been here for four years.)
"I work at [another bar] before" (I was kicked out of [another bar] for showing up drunk and late every day.)
"I'm bangith" (You're bangith [ugly]).
"We go barhop?" (We need to stop at my friends bars so I can show off.)
"We go dance?" (I want to dance with my friends while you make a fool of yourself.)
"I have one baby" (I've got stretchmarks under my shorts.)
"I have two babies" (My vagina looks like a train tunnel.)
"I have no babies" (I have two babies but no stretch marks.)
"I don't like blowjob" (Quiet, my friends will hear. Of course I'll give you a blowjob.)
"I don't like Filipino men" (I like Filipino boys.)
"I don't like German/American/Italian/etc. men"
(My last boyfriend was German/American/Italian/etc. He dumped me.)
"Up to you [regarding tip]" (As much as you can afford)
"Up to you [regarding what to go do]" (Take me dancing. Now, fat boy!)
"I Cherry Girl." (I haven't been fucked up the ass or in my ears or nose yet.)
"I Cherry Girl (alternate 1)." (My Filipino boyfriend won't let me spend the night with a foreigner...yet. How much money do you have again?)
"I Cherry Girl (alternate 2)". (I haven't screwed for a whole week...and we used a condom.)
"I'm good girl" (I only go with other men for money)
"You're my only boyfriend" (One more and I'll have a dozen)
"You hard on puuusey" (The 2" X 4" strapped to your ass chafed my thighs)
"I have menstruation" (Buy me drinks then get lost elephant man)
"I'm shy to you!" Basically, it's what the girl often says when you say to her "Take off your damned clothes" or "Lemme see those breasts, baby" or "Leave the light on while we do the nasty thing because I want to see my *** go in your ***!"
Apologies again if been posted before but wanted to share
In 2002 someone of the Angeles City question and message board fired back with another funny post to describe what is in a bar-girl's mind. Here comes this intelligent, funny and last but not least very true fictitious dialog which shows you that bargirls are not only victims of their poverty but also they are very smart business-women !
Others have posted funny translation guides to bargirlese. I thought I'd add to this by translating what is going through a girl's mind after you agree to pay her barfine. Her real thoughts are in parentheses (). ***
You: "....Well....okay, I'll barfine you."
BARGIRL: "I go get changed." (Well, sucker, you coughed up money for my barfine! Oh happy day. Since I don't want to ruin a good dress on a jerk like you, let me go change into some ratty jeans.)
You: "You look nice!"
BARGIRL: "You nice man. You very handsome." (I know I look nice.)
You: "So, where do you want to go?"
BARGIRL: "Up to you, honeyko." (I'd like to go home but I guess I have to go with you, what's-your-name)
You: "Come on, this night's for you, babe."
BARGIRL: "Ok. We go barhop?" (Come on, gravytrain, let's go see if we can part you from those precious pesos by buying my friends ladies' drinks. Or if I'm really lucky, maybe you'll get drunk and just fall asleep later!).
You: "Do you like Cleopatra bar?"
BARGIRL: "No" (No.)
You: "Why not?"
BARGIRL: "Music Box, ha ha ha!" (E=MC2)
You: "No, seriously, you don't like Cleopatra?"
BARGIRL: "Huh? No. I mad at girl there." (Huh? Did you say something? Sorry, I was busy solving quantum physics problems in my head.)
You: "Ok, how about Gspot?"
BARGIRL: "Ok. I've never been there." (Ok. My best friend works there and I was there with another guy last night.)
You: "I like this bar. You like it?"
BARGIRL: [ignoring your question] "Look that girl there my sister, Drusilla! Oy, Drusilla!" (I vaguely know that girl up there, I'll call her Drusilla! Hey, Drusilla!).
You: "You didn't tell me your sister works here!"
BARGIRL: "We buy her ladies drink?" (Maybe if I throw some cash her way, she'll do the same for me sometime.)
You: "Sure!"
BARGIRL: [talking to her 'sister' in Tagalog] "Blah blah blah, Drusilla! Blah blah blah, Drusilla, Drusilla!" (Pretend you know me, Drusilla. By the way, your name is Drusilla, Drusilla.)
DRUSILLA: "Blah blah blah!" (Okay! Ha ha, gave him the old Sister story, huh?)
DRUSILLA: "Blah blah blah!" (Ok. What's your name, anyway?)
You: "What's your sister saying?"
BARGIRL: "She say maybe my mother sick." (I need to get my jewelry out of hock.)
You: "Aw, that's a shame. Jeez, you and your sister Drusilla sure don't look alike."
BARGIRL: "Same father, different mother." (The moon is made of cheese. La dee da dee dum! Hmm, I think the Filipino DJ is staring at me!)
You: [to the waitress who just arrived] "I'd like a San Miguel. What about you, honey?"
BARGIRL: "Margarita. I go to CR." (He IS staring at me. I'll go meet him in the CR!)
You: "Ok."
BARGIRL: [returning 20 minutes later from the CR] "I sick! We go na?" (Mission accomplished, time to go before I make my new DJ boyfriend jealous.)
You: "Oh, sorry to hear that. Are you hungry?"
BARGIRL: "No." (Of course I'm hungry, but you'd probably take me to some stupid foreigner restaurant instead of getting me balut and bagoong, so fuck it!)
You: "What would you like to do?"
BARGIRL: "Up to you." (I'd like to go boom boom my new Filipino DJ boyfriend but I don't suppose you'd give me a tip, so let's just get this over with, shall we?)
You: "You want to go to my hotel now?"
BARGIRL: "Ok." (No.)
You: "Well, here we are. Nice room, huh?"
BARGIRL: "Oh oh." (Ah, good old room 2B. Wonder if my gum is still stuck under the left side of the bed?)
You: "Well, uh, let's get comfortable."
BARGIRL: "I take shower first." (You groped me in the bar. I need to wash.)
You: "Sure, there's a towel in there, go ahead."
BARGIRL: "I finish shower. Turn off light!" (I can't bear to see your big white ass crawling on top of me. Turn off the light!)
You: "Okay. Do you need anything?"
BARGIRL: "You turn on TV?" (Turn on the TV: if I'm lucky, maybe you'll want doggy style so I can watch Viva while you're busy.)
You: [in the heat of passion]. "Oh, baby, does that feel good?"
BARGIRL: "Moan!" (Groan!)
You: "Oh, I'm coming!"
BARGIRL: "Moan?" (Are you done yet?)
You: "That was good. How was it for you?"
BARGIRL: "I come." (I go.)
You: "What are you doing?"
BARGIRL: "I text my roommate. I tell her I meet nice man." (I'm texting my roommate to tell her it's time to call me and pretend she's my mother so I can leave.)
You: "Someone's calling you."
BARGIRL: [talking on her cellphone] "Blah blah blah, Nanay, blah blah blah!" (Thank heavens you're getting me out of here, Buffy, this guy doesn't brush his teeth!)
You: "Who was that?"
BARGIRL: "My mother. She sick. I go!"
You: "Oh. Ok. Sorry your mom is sick. Here's something for you."
BARGIRL: "Thanks!" (My new boyfriend says thanks!)
You: "Maybe I'll stop by the bar tomorrow."
BARGIRL: "You pay my barfine?" (Are you as dumb as you look?)
You: "Uh. Maybe. Bye."
BARGIRL: "Bye!" (Gotta run. Raul needs some of this cash to buy his drugs. See ya!)
Kogal_Lover
02-09-09, 05:06
Hi everyone,
I'm making a first time trip to the PI for about a week. I've been to Thailand several times, and am very fond of using American Express Travelers checks to get Thai baht. From the reports here it seems that Amex is not well looked upon in the PI, so I have to adjust and bring more cash and rely more on ATMs. Could anyone comment in general on what distribution they typically bring? (e.g. 30% of their budget in cash, the rest relying on the ATM machines) I'm reluctant to bring anymore cash than I have to, but I don't want to get caught short if there's a problem with my cards.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
Blackangst
02-09-09, 21:00
It really depends on how long youre staying. If a week, i would say 80% cash. If 3 weeks maybe 30%. I typically get a pre-paid visa/ATM in the states (credit card works too but i dont use credit...i prefer paygo) for things like hotel, maybe a small shopping trip when i get there. The rest is cash. Try to find a place with in room safes. Also visit almost any office supply store and pick up a lockable zip bank bag to keep spare cash in. As with everything if someone REALLY wants to rob you...they will. But if they happen to find a locked zipper bag they probably wont bother. Filipinos *in general* are opportunists and generally wont try anything unless its easy. For me what I have done is keep maybe $400-800 USD, and keep it locked up except maybe $100-$150 worth of pesos or so. ive had many trips and its always worked for me. Also keep in mind *generally speaking* ATMs will give close to the best exchange rate. When ive stayed in Manila I carry less cash and just hit the ATM every other day or so since theyre everywhere.
Hope that helps
GoodEnough
02-09-09, 22:50
Hi everyone,
I'm making a first time trip to the PI for about a week. I've been to Thailand several times, and am very fond of using American Express Travelers checks to get Thai baht. From the reports here it seems that Amex is not well looked upon in the PI, so I have to adjust and bring more cash and rely more on ATMs. Could anyone comment in general on what distribution they typically bring? (e.g. 30% of their budget in cash, the rest relying on the ATM machines) I'm reluctant to bring anymore cash than I have to, but I don't want to get caught short if there's a problem with my cards.
Thanks for taking the time to read this.
In the five+ years I've lived here I have developed the habit of never carrying very much cash. I use, for the most part, a Visa/debit card for almost everything. I get my cash from the ATMs as needed and use it as a Visa the rest of the time. Travelers checks are not the means of choice here. Though you can cash them, you will get a lousy exchange rate, and yu might have to look around for a place to change your money. Why bother? I use a regular Visa occasionally, but prefer the debit card since there is no bill at the end of the month.
GE
Cuba Tourist
02-09-09, 23:04
"I use, for the most part, a Visa/debit card for almost everything. I get my cash from the ATMs as needed and use it as a Visa the rest of the time."
In Colombia this would be a bad idea, because if you get kidnapped, they will hold you so you can keep using the card in the money machine. I guess that is not a problem in Davao.
By the way, I am planning to visit Davao in late June.
KyCuriosity
02-10-09, 02:04
Are traveler's checks a good idea?
Are they easy to cash in Manila or Angeles?
i would agree. depending on the time of day it can take 2 (midnight through 7 am) to 5 hours (weekly rush) to get to angeles. find a nice place in malate near robinsons. and make excursions to makati and edsa. the biggest problem you'll likely have is to ditch one girl so you can go bag another.many thanks for everyones advice. i have booked into executive plaza. i will endeavour to post a report. if anyone else is around 12-15 march and wants to hook up, let me know.
whilst researching this trip, i was looking at some information on a national park and found a hotel listed called the [CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101) hotel - now that is what i call service! looking forward to my first trip there.
whizzkid.
GoodEnough
02-10-09, 11:42
"I use, for the most part, a Visa/debit card for almost everything. I get my cash from the ATMs as needed and use it as a Visa the rest of the time."
In Colombia this would be a bad idea, because if you get kidnapped, they will hold you so you can keep using the card in the money machine. I guess that is not a problem in Davao.
Nope. It's not a problem in Davao.
ShadowAxis
02-10-09, 16:53
sign outside of this hotel in seoul.
"first class bj hotel" - i shit u not.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/south_korea/seoul/b_j_hotel.html
many thanks for everyones advice. i have booked into executive plaza. i will endeavour to post a report. if anyone else is around 12-15 march and wants to hook up, let me know.
whilst researching this trip, i was looking at some information on a national park and found a hotel listed called the [CodeWord101] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord101) hotel - now that is what i call service! looking forward to my first trip there.
whizzkid.
Wrong Info
02-10-09, 18:49
Are traveler's checks a good idea?
Are they easy to cash in Manila or Angeles?Travelers checks are more headache than worth in the Philippines
Cash is the best way. Take large bills in good condition. Cash some at the airport, and if you are ariving they generaly hava prettyy decent rate tha the airport. Depending on where you are going, anywhere around the tourist area is generally going to have multiple places to exchange funds with a commision. Shop and find the best one.
Otherwise you will spend fruitless hours of your vacation time finding a place and getting a awefull exchange rate from the hotle you are in etc.
Good Luck and Have Fun. Watch them exchange the funds and relax so you don't appear to be a first timer. As always keep your personal info private and do not tell girls to much as they can kill you with the " I lub you " line but usually just want to lub your money out of your wallet and will stop at nothing if they think they can scam you.
If you are being treated well. Ask the girls is they want to have sex, pretty easy, if you want to hang tell her I will barfine you but going to have a few drinks first. Buy a few drinks and have a few laughs but make sure you check your tab and get charged whatyou are told.
Often you will ask how much for a lady drink and be chqrged tripple being told she ordered a special. Make this a non issue up front by saying no special drinks
If you have a overcharge don't be shy to call over the manger or mammasan, expalin the overcharge, ask them to take it off so you can continue to enjoy yourself.
Have a blast
Having travelled throughout SE Asia & other places, I can only suggest that ATM's are your best bet.
Sure, bring some cash (preferably small $US notes) just in case you have trouble finding an ATM at the airport before you get into a taxi to your hotel. Make sure you know the approximate exchange rate before your first withdrawal so you don't get too much or (usually) too little!
Reception will gladly exchange big $USnotes at their rate if you need more cash. And if you feel the need to bring some travellers checks for added security then go ahead (never needed to use 'them myself, AND they cost you to cash them in as well as when you buy them! ).
Blackangst is correct in that ATM's generally give you the best exchange rates, just be aware of any ATM fees/foreign 'handling' charges your bank may charge. Usually I get enough each time to avoid too many trips to the "hole-in-the-wall" so as to reduce these charges then if necessary put any excess in the room/reception safe along with my passport/extra cards, etc.
I have always carried at least two different ATM cards and a few debit/credit cards from different banks covering Cirrus, Maestro, Mcard, Visa networks, and because of this I have never been caught out unable to get cash.
So as not to ripped off it's not a bad idea to keep a nominal balance on your debit cards 'cause you can always top them up from your main account using internet banking.
You won't have any problems getting cash from ATM's unless you plan to "get off the beaten track" and go countryside.
Also when you go out to play, only take what you think will be sufficient and maybe one debit/ATM card just in case you find that "something special" and need extra funds.
Enjoy, P.
Here are a few tips known to work:
Bringing US$100 bills for exchange - these must be series 2000 or later; money changers will generally not accept older $100's as they were reputedly too easy to forge. Also the bills must be in good condition, do not accept torn or defaced bills from your bank.
Changing money - I can recommend Edzen's on Mabini St in Ermita. Not remembering the cross street, but it's easy walking distance from Robinson's. Even the locals know this place. If you're in Makati, Sanry's in Greenbelt is known to be good as well. Both have reputations for honesty and competitive rates. Stay away from touts on the streets. I would only change my first $100 at the airport as their rates aren't that good, but at least you have some pesos to pay the taxi and get something to eat when you arrive.
ATMs - the ones on the streets generally have a limit of only 4000 or 5000 pesos in a single transaction. If you find yourself needing more, you can always do more transactions up to your dailly limit, but gotta watch your bank fees. The ones inside the malls are usually better for more pesos in a single transaction. I've seen up to 20000 pesos possible and have heard reports of up to 40000 pesos. Not remembering where so consider that unverified. Also, it's worth considering whether you have a relationship with your bank that gets some or all of your ATM fees rebated.
Travelers' cheques - stay away, hardly anyone handles these.
Here are a few tips known to work:
Bringing US$100 bills for exchange - these must be series 2000 or later; money changers will generally not accept older $100's as they were reputedly too easy to forge. Also the bills must be in good condition, do not accept torn or defaced bills from your bank.
Changing money - Stay away from touts on the streets. Totally agree! Been scammed by a tout who offered great exchange rates on Mabini. Once inside, I was distracted when they (exchange booth attendant and the tout) count and recount and converse with you to the point where I got confuse and frustrated, while they do a "slight of hand" and short changed me. Just happy to get out of there and didn't notice till a little later when I recounted. Fortunately I only exchange $200. 00 US and was shorted a couple thousand pesos. That has happen to me once. Never again. So beware!
Gentlemen,
I wil be in Phils fopr about 6 weeks. For the first 24 days, I am a free agent, and I have organised some ladies to meet me for the usual activities in Angeles City.
However after that, I will be burdened with SWMBO - she who must be obeyed.
We have not planned where we will go in the Phils, so I am looking for advice.
Usually I can get to slip off by myself every now and then.
So, I am looking for names and places where I can go into a place like the bars on Santos St in Angeles, pay the money, get a quick bj, and walk out, depleted and refreshed in 10 minutes.
Any advice?
Anywhere in the Phils?
Thanks in advance,
Gangles
Kogal_Lover
02-13-09, 04:58
Thank you everyone for the great advice. When I get back from my trip I will contribute back to the forum.
Thank you again!
Is it true that Dvd players sold in Philippines is region free or fixed to be region free? The story goes like this I was in the Philippines I took my small Dvd player with me and power converter adapter to my gf house that damn thing poofed on me. It was a cheap player, so I popped the dvd movies I took with me from the US, I was surprised her dvd player played my movies. If that is true next time when I go back to philippine I will get me a Dvd player so I can watch any region movies!
Big Johnson2
02-16-09, 17:34
I met my girl friends parents from Samar. I gave USA tee shirts to boys, mother chocolate, father bottle of Chevis Regal, baby. Clothes and brought food because they are poor.
My findisngs: I would have done better bringing a cheap bottle of liquor, because they drank it all in one sitting like it was one.
And to Rosco. Who said bring the ATM, I think he was right. Everytime I go out with her family and friends I end up picking up the tab for the beer and food. I always have a group of friends, because it seems nobody has any money here, because it is very poor.
I also tend to bring quite a bit of food over to family.
A cousin "borrowed" 2200P from me for her daughter in college to take her tests/ buy books or something. "Loan" of course.
Her father wants to borrow. 3000 P to buy a small pig to raise. "Loan" of course.
Is all this normal when dealing with a Filipino family where you are seriously dating the daughter? What is normal and what is being taken advantage of?
Redfield10
02-16-09, 20:28
Hi,
I am only a few days away from first trip to the Phils. I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash, a credit card, and a visa debit check card (I can use this as an ATM), but I just discovered my visa debit check card isn't working as an ATM card for some reason (it worked a few days ago). Anyway, I'll try and see my bank tomorrow when it's not a holiday and see if I can find out why.
However, assuming that it's a magnetic strip problem or some problem that won't allow me to get another one in time, does anyone have suggestions for how to handle the money situation in the Phils.
I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash and then using my visa debit card and credit card also. Now, should I take cash, travellers checks and the credit cards? Also, I do have a couple of Chase Cards that I know I can do cash advances with, but I'd have to find a bank willing to do that transaction (I would use this as a backup in case I didn't take enough cash and the cash combined with using credit cards wasn't meeting my demand for money). Would I have a problem finding a bank (Chase or otherwise) that would do a cash advance if I needed to.
Can any of you pros give me some advice?
Thanks
ThatGuy865
02-17-09, 01:50
I met my girl friends parents from Samar. I gave USA tee shirts to boys, mother chocolate, father bottle of Chevis Regal, baby. Clothes and brought food because they are poor.
My findisngs: I would have done better bringing a cheap bottle of liquor, because they drank it all in one sitting like it was one.
And to Rosco. Who said bring the ATM, I think he was right. Everytime I go out with her family and friends I end up picking up the tab for the beer and food. I always have a group of friends, because it seems nobody has any money here, because it is very poor.
I also tend to bring quite a bit of food over to family.
A cousin "borrowed" 2200P from me for her daughter in college to take her tests/ buy books or something. "Loan" of course.
Her father wants to borrow. 3000 P to buy a small pig to raise. "Loan" of course.
Is all this normal when dealing with a Filipino family where you are seriously dating the daughter? What is normal and what is being taken advantage of?There is no end to the demands. As far as they are concerned, if you want to be part of the family then you are to share your wealth with the family. There is no such thing as too much.
Is it true that Dvd players sold in Philippines is region free or fixed to be region free? The story goes like this I was in the Philippines I took my small Dvd player with me and power converter adapter to my gf house that damn thing poofed on me. It was a cheap player, so I popped the dvd movies I took with me from the US, I was surprised her dvd player played my movies. If that is true next time when I go back to philippine I will get me a Dvd player so I can watch any region movies!Dvd players that I have here play US movies, but I have a friend who uses Netflix (on-line movie rentals) and when he receives some movies, they are blocked and will not play on his Philippine Dvd player. Maybe due to copyright concerns????
Robb
Is it normal for relatives to ask for money?? You bet. Now, once you refuse to help relatives, and give ONLY to your gf, see how long she stays your gf. You have read many times on the posts here - what did they do before you came along? How did they survive? Well, they did. Just say you don't have the money, whatever excuse you want, and see if your gf stays with you. Up to you, but you can't support the whole (extended) family, can you? Do you want to?
Professional
02-17-09, 06:34
Is it true that Dvd players sold in Philippines is region free or fixed to be region free? The story goes like this I was in the Philippines I took my small Dvd player with me and power converter adapter to my gf house that damn thing poofed on me. It was a cheap player, so I popped the dvd movies I took with me from the US, I was surprised her dvd player played my movies. If that is true next time when I go back to philippine I will get me a Dvd player so I can watch any region movies!Not sure it PI fixes all there dvd player region free but there are a few website that tell you how to turn certain dvd players region free (not all dvd player can be programed region free) the alternative is to buy a copied (or burn one yourself) dvd and set it as region free.
Basically you copy a dvd and remove the region thus making it playable with any dvd play regardless of the region. Most copied dvd's I have purchase removes the region for you because it is just as easy to burn a dvd region free as it is to burn it with the region but I think some people that sell these movies just may not know how to remove it thus sometime you get a copied dvd that is set on a region.
Verdebandit
02-17-09, 06:57
Dvd players that I have here play US movies, but I have a friend who uses Netflix (on-line movie rentals) and when he receives some movies, they are blocked and will not play on his Philippine Dvd player. Maybe due to copyright concerns?
RobbNot all DVD players in PH are regionless. If they weren't careful they might have bought an asian region dvd player instead of us (region 1).
Not sure it PI fixes all there dvd player region free but there are a few website that tell you how to turn certain dvd players region free (not all dvd player can be programed region free) the alternative is to buy a copied (or burn one yourself) dvd and set it as region free.
Basically you copy a dvd and remove the region thus making it playable with any dvd play regardless of the region. Most copied dvd's I have purchase removes the region for you because it is just as easy to burn a dvd region free as it is to burn it with the region but I think some people that sell these movies just may not know how to remove it thus sometime you get a copied dvd that is set on a region.When I go back within a year or so hopefully the US dollar won't shrink so bad due to the mess the US is in, Well anyways when I do come back and when I want to buy a DVD player, I will bring my US copy DVD and have sales clerk put my region 1 DVD to see if the player will play it and I will have him put region 3 DVD movie and play it, if the player plays both DVD's then i'll buy it! so I can watch any region DVD movies, one thing when I was there some DVD players the sales clerk showed me it work on 120V - 240 just like my shaver!
Maybe due to copyright concerns????
Robb
Maybe more to do with trying to gouge customers with polygopolistic tiered pricing.
Cunning Stunt
02-18-09, 02:26
Maybe more to do with trying to gouge customers with polygopolistic tiered pricing.
polygopolistic - that is a lovely sounding word. But what on earth does it mean? Did you mean oligopolistic which works and according to the free dictionary means market conditions in which sellers are so few that the actions of any one of them will materially affect price and have a measurable impact on competitors. Sounds right.
Has anyone come across authentic X Box 360 games in the Philippines, preferably in a Pal UK format? Most of the games (even in the malls) seem to be pirated. Surprised that Microsoft have not tried to crack the whip, same as they did about illegal copies of Windows, some years back, and Sony did regarding pirated Playstation games.
Wicked Roger
02-18-09, 11:26
Hi,
I am only a few days away from first trip to the Phils. I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash, a credit card, and a visa debit check card (I can use this as an ATM), but I just discovered my visa debit check card isn't working as an ATM card for some reason (it worked a few days ago). Anyway, I'll try and see my bank tomorrow when it's not a holiday and see if I can find out why.
However, assuming that it's a magnetic strip problem or some problem that won't allow me to get another one in time, does anyone have suggestions for how to handle the money situation in the Phils.
I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash and then using my visa debit card and credit card also. Now, should I take cash, travellers checks and the credit cards? Also, I do have a couple of Chase Cards that I know I can do cash advances with, but I'd have to find a bank willing to do that transaction (I would use this as a backup in case I didn't take enough cash and the cash combined with using credit cards wasn't meeting my demand for money). Would I have a problem finding a bank (Chase or otherwise) that would do a cash advance if I needed to.
Can any of you pros give me some advice?
Thanks
I prefer 50/50 cash and card, I have never found an ATM that does not work but am with HSBC/Citi so that helps I suppose but check with Chase if it can work in the Philippines as it will klnow which banks you can go to. Als most of the international banks IMHO will let you use your ATM card in nther machines but maybe for a small fee.
Travellers cheques - IMHO dont take as unlikely you will find many who will cash and if so maybe a large fee.
Cash advance - use the ATM if you can but best ask Chase first as it will have correspndent banks in Philippines. But if you are going into the provinces cash is better but keep it safe
I never had issues but I dont walk aoprund with a wallet (and mobile) in my hand, I use a tatty plastic bag :D small one but no one ever thinks to try and steal that. A wallet in back pocket is another matter
Hope this helps
(Originally Posted by Redfield10
Hi,
I am only a few days away from first trip to the Phils. I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash, a credit card, and a visa debit check card (I can use this as an ATM), but I just discovered my visa debit check card isn't working as an ATM card for some reason (it worked a few days ago). Anyway, I'll try and see my bank tomorrow when it's not a holiday and see if I can find out why.
However, assuming that it's a magnetic strip problem or some problem that won't allow me to get another one in time, does anyone have suggestions for how to handle the money situation in the Phils.
I was planning on taking a substantial amount of cash and then using my visa debit card and credit card also. Now, should I take cash, travellers checks and the credit cards? Also, I do have a couple of Chase Cards that I know I can do cash advances with, but I'd have to find a bank willing to do that transaction (I would use this as a backup in case I didn't take enough cash and the cash combined with using credit cards wasn't meeting my demand for money). Would I have a problem finding a bank (Chase or otherwise) that would do a cash advance if I needed to.
Can any of you pros give me some advice?
Thanks )
1. Only international bank ATM machines take all cards.
2. If you try to take out too much money at one time or repeat cash
withdrawal often the card issuing bank freezes your card.
you need to call them and verify these withdrawals are correct.
3. The fee is minimal, most often $3 to the machine bank + $3 charge from
your bank.
4. Every card has withdrawal limits per day. If you try to get more
the card will be frozen or will say max is reached.
5. Before going abroad let your bank know how you are going to use
the card, how much money you are going to withdraw etc so that
you will not have any problems.
1. Only international bank ATM machines take all cards.
2. If you try to take out too much money at one time or repeat cash
withdrawal often the card issuing bank freezes your card.
you need to call them and verify these withdrawals are correct.
3. The fee is minimal, most often $3 to the machine bank + $3 charge from
your bank.
4. Every card has withdrawal limits per day. If you try to get more
the card will be frozen or will say max is reached.
5. Before going abroad let your bank know how you are going to use
the card, how much money you are going to withdraw etc so that
you will not have any problems.
The last tip is most important: let your bank know where you're going to be. Also know your daily withdrawal limit. That should minimize problems with your bank.
There are worldwide ATM networks: look on the back of your ATM/debit card, there should be some logos for the ATM networks that your issuing bank is affiliated with. Then go look for an ATM that has a matching logo. Examples of networks found in the Philippines include (but are not limited to) Cirrus and Maestro.
DO NOT take traveler's checks. I generally take $1500 cash in new $100 bills. Nobody in P.I. takes bills minted/printed in 1996, so make it 2000 and newer. I take one credit card and one debit card. I use the credit card to pay for hotel bills, cash for everything else. Use the debit card to withdraw 10K pesos at a crack, always have plenty of cash available.
Call your credit card co. and let them know you will be in P.I. and the dates, same with your bank debit card. DO NOT get cash advances from you credit card if you can help it, cause they just cost too much!
Keep your money..where? That's a tough one. I keep mine in a pouch, and I iron my 100$ bills before I go, keeping them crisp and new looking. I have another small pouch for extra peso notes, and when out walking around I keep my money in my front pocket, no wallet. Take only what I plan to spend. Put spending money in right pocket, reserve 1000p notes in left pocket. I don't know if that's the best way, just the way I have found convenient. Have on occasion put money in my sock also.
Redfield10
02-19-09, 07:03
Thanks for the suggestions, guys. The one thing about the Executive Plaza, as I recall reading, is that it doesn't have inroom safes for cash. Which bothers me.
When you have a hotel that has a safe at the front desk, but not the lobby. What do you guys normally do with a sizeable amount of cash you may have?
DO NOT take traveler's checks. I generally take $1500 cash in new $100 bills. Nobody in P.I. takes bills minted/printed in 1996, so make it 2000 and newer. I take one credit card and one debit card. I use the credit card to pay for hotel bills, cash for everything else. Use the debit card to withdraw 10K pesos at a crack, always have plenty of cash available.
Call your credit card co. and let them know you will be in P.I. and the dates, same with your bank debit card. DO NOT get cash advances from you credit card if you can help it, cause they just cost too much!
Keep your money..where? That's a tough one. I keep mine in a pouch, and I iron my 100$ bills before I go, keeping them crisp and new looking. I have another small pouch for extra peso notes, and when out walking around I keep my money in my front pocket, no wallet. Take only what I plan to spend. Put spending money in right pocket, reserve 1000p notes in left pocket. I don't know if that's the best way, just the way I have found convenient. Have on occasion put money in my sock also.
Cunning Stunt
02-19-09, 07:52
Keep your money..where? That's a tough one....
A seasoned world traveler once showed me a tried and trusted method for securing valuable on your body, which is much safer and more secure than using a money belt., and which I often use when traveling. Simply go into any decent pharmacy and buy a length of elasticated sports bandage (called Tubigrip, I think). Folded over this will hold any valuables tucked safely, comfortably and invisibly against your upper calf. Of course, this is useful only for those items you don’t need to access frequently and if you wear long trousers.
GoodEnough
02-19-09, 12:00
As someone who lives here and travels quite a bit within the country, I cannot understand this conversation about carrying cash and where to hide it. I rarely carry more than Php20,000 and I use a Visa debit card for almost everything. Keep the card--if you're worried about losing it--in the room safe and just carry as much local cash as you think you will need. There are ATMs all over the place and they provide much better rates than money changers, and there's never a hassle about trying to find one. By all means use a standard Visa card for hotels, and for any larger purchases you might want to make in department stores.
GE
Gamahucher - good idea. Might try that on next trip. Have just been leaving all the cash in the room, even without safes. Room has never been robbed, never had maids take anything.
GE - why all the cash? I guess if you live there you have your cash in banks, right? I always think that what ATMs charge for withdrawls is too much, so just withdraw the money here and take it with you. Then, if you need more, use the ATM. Always willing to try other ideas though, esp. from you two guys. Love your reports and pics. (I can barely understand digital cameras.)
GoodEnough
02-20-09, 11:34
Gamahucher - good idea. Might try that on next trip. Have just been leaving all the cash in the room, even without safes. Room has never been robbed, never had maids take anything.
GE - why all the cash? I guess if you live there you have your cash in banks, right? I always think that what ATMs charge for withdrawls is too much, so just withdraw the money here and take it with you. Then, if you need more, use the ATM. Always willing to try other ideas though, esp. from you two guys. Love your reports and pics. (I can barely understand digital cameras.)
Thanks for the nice words but you must have me confused with someone else. I have never posted a picture and probably never will. First, I do not know how and second, I never take any.
Though I do live here and I have an account here, I keep my money in the US and barely use the local account except to pay local credit card bills. I think my bank in the US charges $3.50 every time I use the ATM, but I take out maybe Php20,000 at a time so the costs do not add up to very much each month. I think if you add the convenience of being able to change money anywhere, plus the lousy rates from the money changers and the inconvenience of looking for one, plus the worries over being robbed, the equation comes out clearly on the plus side for the use of ATMs; at least it does for me.
GE
I think my bank in the US charges $3.50 every time I use the ATM, but I take out maybe Php20,000 at a time so the costs do not add up to very much each month.
If you have enough cash on deposit at your bank, you could be at a relationship level where they will rebate some or all of your ATM fees to you, even overseas ATM fees so that you would only pay the 1% Visa transaction fee. Find out if your bank has some sort of relationship program depending on your balance(s) there.
Rubberyman
02-21-09, 05:24
There are some words of caution.
First of all, banks are constantly changing their fees and charges. So what may be $3.50 per transaction today can be 3.5% tomorrow. (I have at least one bank that charges that amount). Similarly, last week they give a great conversion rate - next week it is not so good.
Also, not all ATMs work with all cards. (I went to several ATMs including the one in the casino with one card...and no way could I get $$ - I had to walk to SM to find one that did - panicking that I might have to miss out on my dose of pussy for a couple of days while my bank back home sorted it out).
As others have said. Travellers checks are pretty useless. On my first trip years ago, I tried to cash some USD Amex Tchecks and neither my hotel, nor Wild Orchid would touch them - recommending I went to some obscure travel agency miles away. I don't see that improving.
I now do the following:
1). Check the bank charges before I go.
2). Take two types of ATM card and two credit cards
3). I take about a week's worth of expenses in my home currency cash to change at money changers - IF their rates are good enough.
4). I keep a few thou pisos in various denominations from previous trips (don't ever buy Pisos at home though folks - that is not cheap) so that I can hit the streets immediately I get there (No point in wasting pussy time, eh fellas)?
That way I can make a decision whether to use money changers (or keep the $$ to use back home) or the ATM for the first week, and then ATM for the rest.
Juant Pussy
02-22-09, 23:09
There is a website that has low fees for getting cash to phil. It can be setup to take money from your bank account for around $3. 99 per transaction. Your recipient can then pickup pesos in phil. Was going to see what happens if I send money to myself while in phil. I have sent small amounts of cash to friends and have had no problems
Pretty easy. Open account. Enter recipient info. Recipient goes to nearest pickup location. You don't need to worry about the pickup location. 2 ids and transaction number to pickup cash. Neat that you can get status of the transaction.
Blackangst
02-23-09, 16:14
Wells Fargo also has a service to do money transfer that can be picked up at any PNB branch for $3 per transaction whatever the dollar amount. ive used this as its cheaper than a foreign ATM fee.
polygopolistic - that is a lovely sounding word. But what on earth does it mean? Did you mean oligopolistic which works and according to the free dictionary means market conditions in which sellers are so few that the actions of any one of them will materially affect price and have a measurable impact on competitors. Sounds right.Well, I could have sworn that was a word, but google disagrees with me.
Let me define it now:
Polygopoly: A (small) group of companies acting in concert in such a manner as to affect the market in a similar fashion to a monopoly.
Polygopoly' (pronounced pol - i - gop - o - ly) is an economic term coined by John Whelan of Chicago, IL in 2007. A polygopoly is a highly efficient market that exhibits the following characteristics:
1) All participants have equal and direct access.
2) Low (or no) cost of participation.
3) Full transparency of both the buy side and the sell side (depth and breadth).
4) Feedback loops to improve quality of information.
5) The infrastructure is open to improvement and refinement by the participants.
Which is apparently the opposite of monopoly.
No offense Robert, but I don't think it's wise to believe everything you read on the Internet. I would suggest you exercise even more caution when searching for the definition of polygopoly and getting the definition from polygopoly.com
Who is John WHelan -- other than the guy who coined the word polygopoly (according to the website)? And, is he the author of the polygopoly website?
X
Polygopoly' (pronounced pol - i - gop - o - ly) is an economic term coined by John Whelan of Chicago, IL in 2007. A polygopoly is a highly efficient market that exhibits the following characteristics:
1) All participants have equal and direct access.
2) Low (or no) cost of participation.
3) Full transparency of both the buy side and the sell side (depth and breadth).
4) Feedback loops to improve quality of information.
5) The infrastructure is open to improvement and refinement by the participants.
Puerto La Cruz
02-24-09, 13:41
I have used xoom.com many times for several years without a problem. Fees are exponentially lower than Western Union.
Big Johnson2
03-18-09, 16:25
Since then I bought a pig for her father for 3000P. I will play the I don't have money and see what happens. The way I look at it is, if she wants to leave, because she doesn't like something, I'd rather have it sooner than later. If she tells me I'm Cheap Charlie she can go back to work as a BG.
I already know spending lots of money doesn't buy you love here. I've heard about the guy that gave $1000, the girl told the guy all the time she was in love but really wasn't. It was OK because she "needed" the money. The 65 yr. old foreigner that pays for the house and supports his 25 year old wife while she has a couple of Filipina boyfriends. I see this frequently, that there are overseas sugar daddies, and the cheating going on behind his back. I also see them justify this behavior, by any number of reasons: he's too old, he doesn't come see her enough, she's horney. They are great at justifing any "lie". I think if you are not here, getting your benefit daily from the situation, you probably won't get any benefit at all.
I'm getting "thank you" now for the things I buy, but for a long time I seldom heard a thank you for any thing. Does it make them fell "little" to say Thank you?
Is it normal for relatives to ask for money?? You bet. Now, once you refuse to help relatives, and give ONLY to your gf, see how long she stays your gf. You have read many times on the posts here - what did they do before you came along? How did they survive? Well, they did. Just say you don't have the money, whatever excuse you want, and see if your gf stays with you. Up to you, but you can't support the whole (extended) family, can you? Do you want to?
Polygopoly' (pronounced pol - i - gop - o - ly) is an economic term coined by John Whelan of Chicago, IL in 2007. A polygopoly is a highly efficient market that exhibits the following characteristics:
1) All participants have equal and direct access.
2) Low (or no) cost of participation.
3) Full transparency of both the buy side and the sell side (depth and breadth).
4) Feedback loops to improve quality of information.
5) The infrastructure is open to improvement and refinement by the participants.
Then he created a new Greek word.
That is because Monopoly and Oligopoly are Greek words. Polygopoly I never heard of it before.
My perspective on this issue is that we shouldn't flatter ouselves too much; we are what we are and helping the family 'substantially' is a significant part of our 'value' as an overall valuable prospect in respect of the culture of this country. I used to be happy in eastern europe but for what I'm now looking for (18 year old virgin loving WIFE), extended analysis online brought me to the Philippines rather than Thailand or other places. After a hit and miss effort of a couple of months learning the people and its values, I now found my special girl and I'm in the huge effort/battle of obtaining her visa to marry me.
So, regarding the family support issue, I beleive unlike others that it is a key 'positive' to the relationship. The problem I encountered was to fit this support into something workable and productive/affordable. The lessons of my learning curve:
1) be open about it to your girl very early. Have an honest conversation and agreement as to what her expectations are. This will benefit you as you will avoid the stress later by having an early agreement on this important issue. Cause if you don't, needs are endless and it would never be 'enough'. If it is really too high an expectation for your budget, you can move on early and not waste each other's time. As far as my goals and situation are concrened, time is quite expensive too.
2) do NOT get involved into the budget allocation decisions and so.
3) don't hand out larger monthly allowances but spread it out in smaller weekly installments. THEY CAN NOT MANAGE A LARGER BUDGET. They will waste it on futile items and then be 'hit' by emergencies like a birth child (last I hear of, one has a full nine month to plan). They can also not manage their overal life (e. G. They keep making a huge number of babies with no family planning), but then again, this is a key positive to the overall picture. Suppose they could manage a budget or their lives on a Net Present Value based analysis: they would have moved up the world ladder by now in such a way that all of these girls would be horrible feministic b*tches instead of loving angels whom we can count on. Keep the budget to 'normal' expenses and plan for an 'emergencies' budget on top of the agreement. (20K php monthly + 150k php yearly)
4) don't expect thank you's. It is degrading to them to acknowledge you represent 85% of the family budget and acknowledging they are screwing up on a structural basis (unable to cope with the monthly installments)
5) Keep the family help HIGH. Make sure you are vital to their survival/way of living. This is maybe a more controversial theme, but it's my view. The girl is 'indebted' to her family (Utang na loob). It is 'normal' that she will sacrifice for the sake of saving the entire family if she has that chance. She will be HAPPY in her life and proud to succesfully repay this moral debt to her family by her long-term relation to you. This means you can count on an enormous amount of effort and devotion towards you (day and night), unthinkable by any western 'female' standard. At the start of the relationship, it is the family who may even push her your way as she 'doesn't know what to do as she has not had any previous relationship, but wants to do the right thing overall'. I prefer to forego a two weeks ski holiday and have her family entirely depend on my goodwill (=her efforts towards me). Also, suppose the word gets out that you can afford that type of holiday, 'needs' immediately shoot higher and you create bad will if you allocate to that type of holiday instead of their more basic needs. This happy equilibrum will last until she gets 'sick/westernised' and you have to activate your pre-nup to divorce (5-15 years).
6) This analysis is only for those willing to 'invest' into a girl they are 'sure' about. There's a lot of up-front costs (support, documents, visa, travelling) before the 'value' kicks in on a daily basis in your home country later on. If you are seasoned enough AND control (e-mail, chat and friendster access), you can be comfortable pretty quickly about your girl being genuine.
To each his own objective and horizon; good luck to all
Ua Freak
Since then I bought a pig for her father for 3000P. I will play the I don't have money and see what happens. The way I look at it is, if she wants to leave, because she doesn't like something, I'd rather have it sooner than later. If she tells me I'm Cheap Charlie she can go back to work as a BG.
I already know spending lots of money doesn't buy you love here. I've heard about the guy that gave $1000, the girl told the guy all the time she was in love but really wasn't. It was OK because she "needed" the money. The 65 yr. old foreigner that pays for the house and supports his 25 year old wife while she has a couple of Filipina boyfriends. I see this frequently, that there are overseas sugar daddies, and the cheating going on behind his back. I also see them justify this behavior, by any number of reasons: he's too old, he doesn't come see her enough, she's horney. They are great at justifing any "lie". I think if you are not here, getting your benefit daily from the situation, you probably won't get any benefit at all.
I'm getting "thank you" now for the things I buy, but for a long time I seldom heard a thank you for any thing. Does it make them fell "little" to say Thank you?
Hi guys!
Been lurking around for some time. Previously in the Phils (Edsa only) in 2001 and had a nice gfe experience. Went back a month later. She is still there, now with a child by a Pinay guy and has indicated that I may get another round. Though she has a pretty good job now.
Anyway after that I will fly to Cebu, already set to hook up with a friend from Leyte. Got some amazing pussy pics already to be posted soon.
Arrive 28th next from Canada. Only got a week.
Now. Would like some advice on the latest 'rules'. To book CEB from Manila to Cebu which is preferred: Book from home or walk up to the desk when I arrive at NAIA?
Again, what is the advisability of taking some 'purple performance' pills (I'm now 60! ) with me. Any Customs issues? Toys? Can you get these items in Manila? Prescriptions required?
Great reading here re carrying $ and bringing gifts, etc. Been through all the scam issues. All I try to find out is if they are lying or not.
Best advice from me is to immerse oneself in Phils culture and traditions. Everyone knows what is going on but ya have to watch our fot the extended family and for anyone from the Church. Very powerful influences, esp. In the Provinces.
Thanks to all who reply. And keep an eye for my photo Reports.
Bry
Puerto La Cruz
03-19-09, 01:13
Am I missing something or am I just a product of the public schools?
GoodEnough
03-19-09, 06:48
Neither word has relevance to the economic system of the Philippines, which is based on the "closed kleptocracy" model, the major attributes of which are inaccessibility by all but a select few, and subject to expropriation by those who do have access. Succinctly, an oligarchy that steals all that isn't nailed down. A model that is truly elegant in its simplicity.
GE
...subject to expropriation by those who do have access.
I can speak for the expropriation part. During my last visit to Manila earlier this month, my taxi once took Aguilar Ave back from Las Pinas toward Manila rather than use the Coastal Road (too much traffic there). This turns into another street and eventually hits Sucat Ave in Paranaque City where one would turn left and eventually end up on Roxas Ave after some more turns. Well that "another street" is in the process of being widened in order to provide another access route to Las Pinas. This widening is being done rather forcibly. And I mean forcibly. Literally they are demolishing portions of the buildings until they get the new width of the street. If it wasn't so straight through, it would have looked like a bomb hit those buildings. Had me wondering if those poor people got any compensation. The companions I was with could not answer that question...
When to buy your Cebu ticket. I always stay one week in Manila before going to Cebu and buy my ticket in Manila. Good deals can be had. Even if you are connecting the same day to Cebu, it might make more sense to wait till you are in Manila before you buy for 2 reasons. One-it is cheaper, and two you never know when your plane will land. you might buy ticket for 4pm to Cebu and your plane is delayed and you are late. The planes to Cebu are generally not sold out, except on Fridays and Saturday. Cebu Pacific offers tickets for 288p on occasion.
back home now and back to reality. it sucks! going from 90 degree sunny weather, scuba diving, beaches, thai food, daily massages, and so many girls, to the daily grind is a tough adjustment.
the trip was great! i was in manila, angeles, and subic bay, then went diving in palau for a week, then bangkok and finally pattaya. it was a lot of travel, but i wanted to cover all the places. then were all fun in one way or another.
in manila, went to la cafe. i love that place. got hammered on smls, hung out upstairs with the band and a bunch of girls and of course took one home. stayed til i kicked her out the next day.
angeles was well, angeles (-; stayed at the pacific breeze. overpriced but a great pool area. did find one really fun 20 yo girl. went to the disco all night, then back to the hotel of course.
subic bay was great. i love beach towns, and they had a great floating bar. about 10 angeles style bars on the main road. more in barretto but i didn't make it there. had fun, did some wreck dives, got some massages with extras and of course got drunk and partook in the bar bitches each night.
then went to palau for the diving. amazing diving. thought i would have a break from the women, but this british guy about my age i was diving with kept finding these chinese girls, so we'd go out with them every night and brought a couple back. chinese ktv bars are very weird. private rooms and all. not really my thing but had fun.
got to bangkok and stayed near nana plaza. that was fun, and found some fun drunk chicks. taking a full viagra then having a half naked drunk chick dacing on my lap was a bad idea. had trouble walking out of that bar with her, though she got a kick out of it! loved [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? that place had some serious bj talents. i can't imagine if i had a place like that nearby home for $20. the baht did not have a great exchange rate (36/dollar) so thailand was a little more expensive all around. went to see the grand palace and some other temples. very nice!
finally got to pattaya. wow! that place was way bigger than i expected. its 20 times the size of angeles. i loved pattaya. got a place on soi 8 near all the beer bars, and rented a scooter to get around. i liked the beach there, and great massages. go-go bars were very fun. beer bars and pool tables were a blast. drunk girls are way more fun than sober ones! not so many native english speaking people there, so didn't find too many guys to hang out with and drink with, so just stuck to the girls. soi six had some hotties during the day light. only place that did. want to go back and spend more time in pattaya.
but alas, i fell in love with my (legit) massage girl there. not that any girl in pattaya is particularly innocent, but this one was a non-working girl. so i took her out, had a great time and did eventually get her back to the room. it was fun to try some "game" rather than just paying a barfine. she never asked for a dime, but did give her a gift at the end. still in contact and need to go back to see her. so cute, great body, and spoke good english!
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Thanks, Mr Hawaii for the flight booking tips. Though I DO land on a Sat morning. And CEB is quoting 1541P for a return to Mactan. Take my chances, can book from Inchone during the layover and see how the land lies.
Wish me luck! BTW, any trobule having purple pills in your kit when landing?
CB
ShadowAxis
03-26-09, 05:07
you should read private dancer by stephen leather immediately. take it from one english teacher who has enough mistakes under his belt to make this recommend. it's an enjoyable read, though harsh in the sense that you will probably see a lot of yourself in the book. other great books are bangkok eight. you'll never understand the thai people (and by extension. many se asian countries) until you completely grok the whole social / family obligation thing. here in the philippines it's called "being practical"; my experience is the better the girls english the more poon she spent on lessons starting with "oh yes, oh god, oh shit, and we make boom boom" to "fuck me hard, yes. oh, you like when i grind down like that. i am your porn start baby. " lol i crack myself up!
seriously, at a minimum private dancer will be worth your time and you'll return with a much higher degree of situational awareness.
back home now and back to reality. it sucks! going from 90 degree sunny weather, scuba diving, beaches, thai food, daily massages, and so many girls, to the daily grind is a tough adjustment.
the trip was great! i was in manila, angeles, and subic bay, then went diving in palau for a week, then bangkok and finally pattaya. it was a lot of travel, but i wanted to cover all the places. then were all fun in one way or another.
in manila, went to la cafe. i love that place. got hammered on smls, hung out upstairs with the band and a bunch of girls and of course took one home. stayed til i kicked her out the next day.
angeles was well, angeles (-; stayed at the pacific breeze. overpriced but a great pool area. did find one really fun 20 yo girl. went to the disco all night, then back to the hotel of course.
subic bay was great. i love beach towns, and they had a great floating bar. about 10 angeles style bars on the main road. more in barretto but i didn't make it there. had fun, did some wreck dives, got some massages with extras and of course got drunk and partook in the bar bitches each night.
then went to palau for the diving. amazing diving. thought i would have a break from the women, but this british guy about my age i was diving with kept finding these chinese girls, so we'd go out with them every night and brought a couple back. chinese ktv bars are very weird. private rooms and all. not really my thing but had fun.
got to bangkok and stayed near nana plaza. that was fun, and found some fun drunk chicks. taking a full viagra then having a half naked drunk chick dacing on my lap was a bad idea. had trouble walking out of that bar with her, though she got a kick out of it! loved [CodeWord900] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord900)? that place had some serious bj talents. i can't imagine if i had a place like that nearby home for $20. the baht did not have a great exchange rate (36/dollar) so thailand was a little more expensive all around. went to see the grand palace and some other temples. very nice!
finally got to pattaya. wow! that place was way bigger than i expected. its 20 times the size of angeles. i loved pattaya. got a place on soi 8 near all the beer bars, and rented a scooter to get around. i liked the beach there, and great massages. go-go bars were very fun. beer bars and pool tables were a blast. drunk girls are way more fun than sober ones! not so many native english speaking people there, so didn't find too many guys to hang out with and drink with, so just stuck to the girls. soi six had some hotties during the day light. only place that did. want to go back and spend more time in pattaya.
but alas, i fell in love with my (legit) massage girl there. not that any girl in pattaya is particularly innocent, but this one was a non-working girl. so i took her out, had a great time and did eventually get her back to the room. it was fun to try some "game" rather than just paying a barfine. she never asked for a dime, but did give her a gift at the end. still in contact and need to go back to see her. so cute, great body, and spoke good english!
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Blackangst
03-26-09, 05:18
Thanks, Mr Hawaii for the flight booking tips. Though I DO land on a Sat morning. And CEB is quoting 1541P for a return to Mactan. Take my chances, can book from Inchone during the layover and see how the land lies.
Wish me luck! BTW, any trobule having purple pills in your kit when landing?
CB
As long as you have a prescription you're fine :)
Thanks, Mr Hawaii for the flight booking tips. Though I DO land on a Sat morning. And CEB is quoting 1541P for a return to Mactan. Take my chances, can book from Inchone during the layover and see how the land lies.
Wish me luck! BTW, any trobule having purple pills in your kit when landing?
CB
Been flying to Asia, mostly P.I. since 1988, and NEVER, knock on wood, have had my bags checked when entering or exiting any Asian nation. Only problems are when entering my own country, USA. Hope I didn't jinx myself!
What you can do is put the pills in your pocket, or into your checked luggage, since they usually only check carryon by hand. Have fun.
Thanks, Mr Hawaii for the flight booking tips. Though I DO land on a Sat morning. And CEB is quoting 1541P for a return to Mactan. Take my chances, can book from Inchone during the layover and see how the land lies.
Wish me luck! BTW, any trobule having purple pills in your kit when landing?
CBRarely had my checked bags examined by more than a cursory search, if at all when entering lately.
I carry a small pouch marked 'Travel Medicine' containing a few commonly prescribed legit travel medicines (usually with a few out of date prescriptions for some of the drugs). If I am carrying any performance enhancing medicines i just put the box in there with all the other stuff. No customs officer takes any notice. Technically you are supposed to have prescriptions for everything but its not really a big deal unless you are entering a country with very harsh laws & treatment of visitors.
If they did go searching thoroughly its more because they are just doing a random audit or maybe because you are under real suspicion. Assuming you like 99.9% of folks and not a wrong doer then dont sweat it ok?
AV
Royal Blue
03-26-09, 19:03
Does anyone happen to know if there's any work for English/Spanish language teachers in Manila or Cebu?
Obviously alot of people speak English, but not all?
Puerto La Cruz
03-27-09, 01:15
I'm a white guy from Wisconsin who just happens to speak excellent Spanish.
50% of my appointments at work are in Spanish. Tagalog is perhaps 10% Spanish, mostly nouns. The farther south you go in the Phils, it seems as if I hear more Spanish verbs. I have come across a few women on the net that work in Spain but for an income teaching Spanish in Phils I just don't see it happening. Maybe somebody else can enlighten both of us.
ThatGuy865
03-27-09, 03:58
Why would a pinay or anyone in the PI want to learn spanish.
Let alone pay to learn.
does anyone happen to know if there's any work for english/spanish language teachers in manila or cebu?
obviously alot of people speak english, but not all?i dont have detailed knowledge of cebu as i have only visited briefly a couple of times.
in regards to manila, i have several 18 & 19 year old university student gf's there so my info is based on conversations with them & discussions with friends & contacts. yes there is work for english teachers.
spanish i'm less sure of. probably yes but only small number of teachers needed for this i guess. understand that in the past spanish was once the language of the upper classes. rarely so now. there are pockets of spanish speaking communities here & there in pi.
the two offiical languages are english & tagalog. every kid gets an opportunity to learn these when they are at school. university students continue to have english as part of their curriculums. getting a job as an english teacher in a university would most likely be much easier & have the added benefit of easy access to 18 - 22yr pussy. the work is poorly paid.
i often wondered if the foreigner teachers in the universities were there for the pussy. in my silly westerner way i have stupidly asked my gf's directly if the teachers mixed with the students. i always got the inscrutable asian non informative reply. i changed tacks & casually mentioned to each girl that i was thinking of becoming an english teacher at uni. bingo! hit a nerve! every girl said no! no! no!. when asked why they all said 'i get very jealous if you do that!' a little tactful digging elicited the admission that some (many?) uni girls have liaisons with their teachers for favour & fun.
if you are considering 'going native' then you must understand that pi is a closed cronyist economy. you cant buy a house here. you can buy a condo. you cant get a job here. you can obtain permanent residency if you are married to a local. this will legally entitle you to work.
guys do come on tourist visa's, stay & get jobs as english teachers without the paperwork. flying under the radar like this carries the real risk of deportation if/when your are discovered.
some guys get here on legit academic arrangements.
others board members may have corrections/more info.
i include an example of the quality of pussy you will be exposed to as an english teacher in a manila uni.
one pic shows a teacher aquaintance (not me) from a manila uni sitting amongst 18yr old students at a party. he's no oil painting right? he gets pussy.
this girl went on a dirty week-end with me to tagaytay. i really enjoyed fucking this chick. like most cherries i encounter in pi she was very tight but keen & loosened up well after a couple of rounds. so shy, got into the bath clothed the way the bathe at the village pump back in the province..
i later introduced her to the pleasures of fucking standing up in the shower... ahh memories. no nudes she was too shy.
hard to keep your liaisons secret though, these girls gossip at the speed of light ;)
sorry this kinda turned into a field report more than answer! ooops!
cheers!
av
mmmm masarap! :)
I wondered how the hotel would react to me turning up with a very obvious 19yr student... No problemo! The women were looking at her with that 'you lucky girl!' look & the guys were giving me that 'i wish i were you' smile.
Guys if your sick of Manila & have some time on your hands take ur LT BF's or GF's there. its nice to be in a place where you are not entering a hotel in a conga line of fat old foreigners with tiny young Pinays.
Its a nice change!
AV
mmmm masarap!
I wondered how the hotel would react to me turning up with a very obvious 19yr student... No problemo! The women were looking at her with that 'you lucky girl!' look & the guys were giving me that 'i wish i were you' smile.
AVShe is truly a cutey AV something you don’t see much of around here.
Thanks for blessing the board with her.
She is truly a cutely AV something you don’t see much of around here. Thanks for blessing the board with her....Your welcome & thanks for the complimemt man. She's a keeper (for now). Chicks like this you can only get & keep by serial monogamy. They are VERY used to cheating pinoy BF's & will find you out in no time at all.
I encourage hunters to raise their sights a little higher. :D
AV
Does anyone happen to know if there's any work for English/Spanish language teachers in Manila or Cebu?
Obviously alot of people speak English, but not all? There are many English schools in Cebu. I stayed with My GF from Leyte in one of the hotels close to Lapu Lapu on Mactan island for a week.
It is like a campus hotel with many rooms. The students are mostly from Korea studying english. The hotel and the school is run by an American with Philippino wife who owns the whole compound. To tell you the truth I forgot the name. I am sure you will find it if you search for the hotels in the area.
I was friendly with him. He said there are many such places teaching english to students from Korea, Japan, China, Indonesia. The place is like dormitory including lodging and buffet food for the students.
Students were very friendly and invited me and my Gf to out partying to local clubs at night. My GF got really jealous and I had to drop the idea. As for teachers there most of the teachers were Philippinos. Although there were couple of caucasians.
I do not know what the salary structure is like. I believe not much. But if you are single and they provide lodging and food you are already set. Socializing with visiting students may not be a good idea. But local Phi girls are fair game.
Amavida,
Wow I'm in love with your girl toy good job.
Traveler1234
03-27-09, 17:28
One pic shows a teacher aquaintance (NOT ME) from a manila Uni sitting amongst 18yr old students at a party. He's no oil painting right? He gets pussy.
AV
No flame intended but I'd suggest you either delete the teacher pix or at least block his face. I don't think he'd appreciate it circulating on ISG.
Shanghai Lover
03-28-09, 00:09
Gentlemen
I have been to philliphines for the first time 3 weeks ago. I face an unique situation, would appreciate some insight form you experience mongers. I met a girl on line, she works at the apple store in manila, which I actually confirmed during my visit. She claimed to be virgin, however when we got to act she was so loose that it was unbelievable. I mentioned it to her and she said that is fine it will be good when I have baby. The delima Iiface is that is she wants to get serious. From her demenor and character and where she works I like to beleive her, but form the physical side it makes me highly suspecious unless. It is possible a girl can be like that and be virgin. I am too embaradsed to ask the doctor here, adn hopefuly was hoping some of you her can help me out by sharing your opinions. My main concern is not if she is a virgin or not. But is she lying. If the later then I am setting myself up for serious problems.
On a seperate note does any body have suggestions as to what is the best bus service to take from manila to banaue and places to stay and other recommendations at banaue and bataad. I could find any info on the forum. Or limited on the web.
Thank you so much in advance.
Turning on a lezzie show for us.
This was in the middle of a public pool...
amazing what alcohol can do ;)
AV
How would you like me sir?
Semi conscious... or really comatose?
AV
A couple of random pics of Uni girls at the party.
There's some yummy stuff just begging to be taken!
AV
I dont know if any one is interested but since i'm diging around in my pic collection thought I may as well show you guys another one of my honey's.
This one is not quite as photogenic but I can assure you she turns heads when we go out & she's fantastic in bed! ;)
AV
If you're getting bored, tell me to stop.
This one LOVES wearing lingerie under her street clothes & doing strip shows for me. Rather delightfully these were HER ideas NOT my suggestions. :)
AV
No flame intended but I'd suggest you either delete the teacher pix or at least block his face. I don't think he'd appreciate it circulating on ISG.Good call. Pic modified. AV
I dont know if any one is interested but since i'm diging around in my pic collection thought I may as well show you guys another one of my honey's.
This one is not quite as photogenic but I can assure you she turns heads when we go out & she's fantastic in bed! ;)
AV
AV please stop this. With each posting of these gorgeous girls all board members are suffering a painful, slow death :D
Cunning Stunt
03-28-09, 07:34
If you're getting bored, tell me to stop.
You are jesting of course:D. Particularly like the look of this girl. Just love that smouldering, large mouthed look in a Pinay. Is she a Manila girl?... hint, hint;).
BTW - why the general thread?
You are jesting of course:D. Particularly like the look of this girl. Just love that smouldering, large mouthed look in a Pinay. Is she a Manila girl?... hint, hint;).
BTW - why the general thread?G'day cobber! I was wondering when someone would notice her - I certainly did! ;) Unfortunately one of my GF's was present at the party (on the left).
Luscious lips is already squired by a generous non-resident BF (there's hope yet). Yep she's a Manila girl. Her BF takes her off to LOS for 'vacations'. The logic of this escapes me (coals to new castle) but she loves it. I know this because I asked about the pendant...
These posts started out as answer to someones question with a few supporting pics & spilled over into a rambling series of pic posts.
Im always leery of posting anything but full frontal nudity in the photo gallery lest i be tarred & feathered by the hard core cognoscente! If Jackson wants to move them its ok with me. Im too bloody lazy :)
Cheers!
AV
Yep, I love the lucious lips as well.
Not the photo thread.....
I've posted a few interesting pics under the guise of hotel reviews. I don't think there is any rule in that regard. I do it because a lot of people hitting the photo threads are lurking master- baters who add nothing to the board.
Thanks for the pics av.
X
G'day cobber! I was wondering when someone would notice her - I certainly did! ;) Unfortunately one of my GF's was present at the party (on the left).
Luscious lips is already squired by a generous non-resident BF (there's hope yet). Yep she's a Manila girl. Her BF takes her off to LOS for 'vacations'. The logic of this escapes me (coals to new castle) but she loves it. I know this because I asked about the pendant...
These posts started out as answer to someones question with a few supporting pics & spilled over into a rambling series of pic posts.
Im always leery of posting anything but full frontal nudity in the photo gallery lest i be tarred & feathered by the hard core cognoscente! If Jackson wants to move them its ok with me. Im too bloody lazy :)
Cheers!
AV
Yep, I love the lucious lips as well.
Thanks for the pics av.
XAh! Another fan of hers.
You cant have her I saw her first!
Just kidding! :)
Seriously though, that mouth was MADE for fellatio eh?
AV
Cunning Stunt
03-29-09, 01:38
I've posted a few interesting pics under the guise of hotel reviews. I don't think there is any rule in that regard. I do it because a lot of people hitting the photo threads are lurking master- baters who add nothing to the board.
Fair point - recall you squirreling away one of your more interesting risque photos on the Photo Gallery Chit Chat thread where it has been viewed 1200+ times. On the Photo Gallery thread it would have reached 4 times that audience. Proof that many lurkers tune into the naughty pix thread alone.
However most of us start life here as lurkers and if my photos (or those of other regular contributors) encourage one lurker to start contributing or showing photos, then it will be worthwhile for the health of the forum. I initially started posting after seeing some of Asian Rain's stuff and thinking that I had similar that I might show.
Cunning Stunt
03-29-09, 01:50
Luscious lips is already squired by a generous non-resident BF (there's hope yet). Yep she's a Manila girl. Her BF takes her off to LOS for 'vacations'. The logic of this escapes me (coals to new castle) but she loves it. I know this because I asked about the pendant...
Wonder what she does for fun when her non-resident BF is out of country? I took a Pinay on holiday to LOS once, when I lived in Honkers. What a silly thing to do but I was much younger then. I recall it was amusing as most Thai's assumed she was a local and jabbered away at her in Thai and then looked at her as though stupid when she was unable to reply. Poor girl was really flummoxed.
I'm always surprised how many filipinas go/get taken to Thailand. One of the hottest girls on ABC actually lives and works (on ABC) from Thailand and a lot of the filipinas go there for a holiday. To me, Philippines and Thailand are so similar - beaches etc - there's not much point in a filipina going there.
But the filipinas seem to like Thailand and I've heard them say how friendly the Thais are to the filipinas (I'm not sure if that's the Thai guys trying to get into their pants (for the obvious or the wallet in their pants pocket) or if the Thais and filipinas are pretty similar and genuinely get on well.
Obviously one of the attractions is it's easy for a filipina to get a visa in Asian countries such as Thailand, HK and Singapore. I think maybe also Korea and Malaysia.
I wish Australia (where I live) would be smarter and offer 12 month working visas for filipinas such as domestic helpers. I used to work in Hong Kong and the domestic helpers in HK really help the economy there. The filipinas are great with the kids and allow the parents to work long hours; a great and often unrecognised contribution to the economy.
If Australia did allow domestic helpers here, then a lot of people would have them. It would be great for the filipinas (make decent money in relatively good jobs) and great for the Aussies (including me!). Let's get all the ISG Aussies to form a lobby group for the govt here :)
Anyone have any thoughts on why Western economies are so restrictive on visas, both tourist and working visas? I really think the overstay concern is exaggerated. The Aussie govt is very tough in issuing tourist visas (e.g. to the Chinese or filipinas) and the main reason quoted is overstay risk. But the "cost" to Australia of overseas is dwarfed by the contribution that tourists and domestic helpers would bring to Australia.
Wonder what she does for fun when her non-resident BF is out of country? I took a Pinay on holiday to LOS once, when I lived in Honkers. What a silly thing to do but I was much younger then. I recall it was amusing as most Thai's assumed she was a local and jabbered away at her in Thai and then looked at her as though stupid when she was unable to reply. Poor girl was really flummoxed.
GregLondon
03-30-09, 07:35
Gentlemen
I have been to philliphines for the first time 3 weeks ago. I face an unique situation, would appreciate some insight form you experience mongers. I met a girl on line, she works at the apple store in manila, which I actually confirmed during my visit. She claimed to be virgin, however when we got to act she was so loose that it was unbelievable. I mentioned it to her and she said that is fine it will be good when I have baby. The delima Iiface is that is she wants to get serious. From her demenor and character and where she works I like to beleive her, but form the physical side it makes me highly suspecious unless. It is possible a girl can be like that and be virgin. I am too embaradsed to ask the doctor here, adn hopefuly was hoping some of you her can help me out by sharing your opinions. My main concern is not if she is a virgin or not. But is she lying. If the later then I am setting myself up for serious problems.
On a seperate note does any body have suggestions as to what is the best bus service to take from manila to banaue and places to stay and other recommendations at banaue and bataad. I could find any info on the forum. Or limited on the web.
Thank you so much in advance.Are you joking? Zero chance that she is a virgin. I think one has to accept that 95% of philly gorls will just say what they think you want to hear.
I'm always surprised how many filipinas go/get taken to Thailand. One of the hottest girls on ABC actually lives and works (on ABC) from Thailand and a lot of the filipinas go there for a holiday. To me, Philippines and Thailand are so similar - beaches etc - there's not much point in a filipina going there.
But the filipinas seem to like Thailand and I've heard them say how friendly the Thais are to the filipinas (I'm not sure if that's the Thai guys trying to get into their pants (for the obvious or the wallet in their pants pocket) or if the Thais and filipinas are pretty similar and genuinely get on well.
Obviously one of the attractions is it's easy for a filipina to get a visa in Asian countries such as Thailand, HK and Singapore. I think maybe also Korea and Malaysia. Thais dont own half the friggin PI like the Chinese & Koreans do. That may explain a lot...
I wish Australia (where I live) would be smarter and offer 12 month working visas for filipinas such as domestic helpers. I used to work in Hong Kong and the domestic helpers in HK really help the economy there. The filipinas are great with the kids and allow the parents to work long hours; a great and often unrecognised contribution to the economy.Me to, but it ain't gonna happen.
If Australia did allow domestic helpers here, then a lot of people would have them. It would be great for the filipinas (make decent money in relatively good jobs) and great for the Aussies (including me!). Agreed.
Anyone have any thoughts on why Western economies are so restrictive on visas, both tourist and working visas? I really think the overstay concern is exaggerated. The Aussie govt is very tough in issuing tourist visas (e.g. to the Chinese or filipinas) and the main reason quoted is overstay risk. But the "cost" to Australia of overseas is dwarfed by the contribution that tourists and domestic helpers would bring to Australia.Historically Australia had an explicit 'White Australia Policy". Australia is politically deeply conservative. Populations demographics are severely skewed toward an aging population. It is governed by gerontocracy sympathetic politicians.
There is a severe skills shortage of 'Trades' people & there has been some loosening of the restrictions to get them there in Oz but opening the flood gates to the teeming hoards of Asia would be political suicide no matter how much sense it makes to you & me.
AV
GregLondon
03-30-09, 07:47
I'm off to Phils tomorrow. Got alot of tel nos from DIA contacts most of whom claim they are hot p trot. Just wondering what people's expereiences are in terms of whether most of the girls expect tobe paid if take and to bed and what is regarded as a reasonabl level?
Wonder what she does for fun when her non-resident BF is out of country?She does plenty mate! hehehe.. She's a goer alright! These Uni chicks with overseas BF's love to party in their abscence.
Have'nt had the pleasure myself .. yet.. but i remain ever hopeful :)
If I do manage to get her number I will happily pass it on GH.
I should'nt be greedy right? :D
AV
Just tossing out some pics of another party for your drooling pleasure.
They were all doable but the taller chick in the leopard skin bikini really got my blood rushing.
Life is fun!
AV
Cunning Stunt
03-30-09, 08:19
If I do manage to get her number I will happily pass it on GH.
I should'nt be greedy right? :D
AV
What a cutey like that and you haven't got her CP No yet? Bloody hell - I'm disappointed in you AV;).
Would appreciate it but I won't hold my breath - I imagine if you were to get it then you would naturally be in dipsies like a rat up a drainpipe :D.
I had 6 nights in Angeles 7 in La Union and 4 in Subic so I will split the report into bite size chunks. I will attempt to put a humourous slant on the trip. There are no photos which may disappoint the one handed keyboard specialists.
Days 1 and 2 Orchid Inn Angeles
Arrived about 1 am and after a rapid 3 S's I was out on the town. I immeadiately fell into the Angeles trap - there will be something better in the next club. Failed completely and went to bed pissed and alone.
The next morning I set off on Fields and to my surprise (and his) I bumped into an old mate Ken Tuckey who I thought was living in Cambodia but was in the process of moving to Angeles. We immeadiately agreed to meet up at 8pm in Bodyshop for a session that night.
I wandered down towards Perimeter and checked out the daytime haunts. No real changes from last time although the midget with the fat arse was absent from the Gentlemans Club!
That night Ken kept introducing me to various cherry girls including one who put a price of 100,000 pesos on it. That price had stood for a year but at least no inflation on it. I tried to explain that if she lowered the price a year ago she could have collected the 100,000 and had some fun in the meantime. She did not see the business opportunity so I asked if I could be second at the normal price.
That night I felt in need of a bed warmer and whilst in Pasha I told a posse of waitresses that I was looking for a girl with big nipples and one of them showed me a couple of bullets and the deal was done. A great deal too as she turned out to be a blow job specialist. She had to leave early so she had the foresight to set the alarm on her mobile to do the deed all over again before she left.
The next morning I caught a bus from Dau to La Union.
Days 9 to 12 Angeles Phoenix Hotel
Popped into the Royal Amsterdam to leave a message for Ken so we could cause more havoc that night. I went into one afternoon bar a was attacked by a small lady who said she was very shy and would not show me her tits but she did tell me she would suck me dry, swallow and of course lick my arse. God knows what she would do if she overcomes the shyness.
The afternoons were spent on Perimeter with sample BJ's and a longer one cost 3 drinks (450 pesos). It was fairly strange to hear that the pricing had changed. The trip upstairs had been reduced by 200 peso and the 450 service had gone along with the free samples. I asked when the changes were made and was told last month. I said that was funny because they were on offer last week!!!!!!!!!!!!
It was at this time I encountered an honest bar girl she told the bar next door was better than hers and she was right!!!!!!!!!!!!
At nights I went out with Ken always starting at Bodyshop. I had good fun reading fortunes and often had a queue 6 or 7 deep. One girls wanted to know how I did it and what did I see. The only explanation I could give was that I looked at the hand and then saw a picture in my mind. I tried it in one bar and Mummy joined the queue. I naturally said she was the best Mummy in town who always bought customers a drink and of course I read that one 100% correct. At one place I got a sever pain in the wallet when I found to my cost the ladies drink I bought was 250 peso. The showgirls were 3000 EWR and we kept calling for the cheaper goods to be on display.
I found an absolute doll in one bar and she woke up with me twice making me a very happy man. At least once I slept alone having had a ball draining exercise in the afternoon.
Last day Angeles Phoenix Hotel
I came back to Angeles feeling rough as a badgers bum and went to bed having had only 3 drinks. Sorry if you were in the next room I must have kept you awake with my coughing all night. During the afternoon I did buy a few DVDs and when I was looking at the blue coloured ones with the vendor a motorbike roared up with a uniformed guy on board. I immeadiately thought I had been set up and my last pesos would be donated to the Policeman's Ball. Fortune favoured the brave and he turned out to be a Security Guard who wanted a free look at the covers!
My last afternoon I recovered enough to have a short time with a girl from Thi Hi ( just love stockings and suspenders).
Days 3 to 9 La Union
I caught a bus from Dau Bus Station. I had to wait only a couple of minutes for an aircon bus to arrive. Good value 256 peso for a hour ride. The bus dropped me off out side Bali Hai Resort where I always stay. My plan was to have a relaxing time at Bali Hai and catch up with old friends.
That night after an absence of 5 years I went into Tramps , Ocean Breeze and Footlights the local clubs. I each one someone called me by name. I must have a great customer or they have great staff ( I favour the latter). I read a few palms in Tramps and was describing to one girls that she would meet a tall Aussie with big balls. She then said "That's my late husband" I nearly shit myself I must be getting good at this. That night I took a small lady from Tarlac who gave me a good seeing to. Another night I took a waitress who again showed dedication to duty. I went into Ocean Breeze and was acosted by a waitress who previously worked in another establishment. She had the reputation of the best blow job on the beach. She remembered me but not the previous blow job.
On the Wednesday I went to the PT Trip which I love to go to especially when it is at a new bar /location for me. Great planning saw the PT at the VFW across the road from Bali Hai. I duly got my attendance mark and sneeked out of the back door to go the bar at Bali Hai East along with a few others. A steady afternoon of drinking saw me sink a few in Finnegans and the Footlights. In Footlights I tried to stand up and caught my foot in the footrest of the stool and went arse over tit backwards. I felt fine when I got up but the next morning I had a real pain in my kidney area and a distinct inability to get out of the bed. That persisted for a good few days.
One night I went to the Casino which has been built at Poro Point since my last visit. It was awful and I didn't stay long. The only good point was seeing Cathy (ex Bali Hai) who is a cashier superviser there. That brought back memories when I ask a waitress out fro Bali Hai. As a good girl she couldn't come without a chaperone. As the day progressed more and more asked if they could come. I ended up taking out 8 of the staff to a couple of Discos and back to Bali Hai to eat. Talk about feeling like a dog with 2 dicks I must have had six or seven dicks that night! I paid the tab for the lot and it was well worth it.
One night I had a liaison with a waitress who confessed she had had horizontal pleasures for 10 months. She had some time to make up and just kept coming and coming. I was so good I did the deal for a second night with a bonus payment system in place. She gives me 100 peso every time she comes and I pay her 500 every time I came. In the morning I made my payment and she gave me the full amount back!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Naturally I insisted she keep the whole sum.
The trip back to Angeles was interesting! After stopping several buses on the highway I realised very few went via Dau. I eventually opted for one going to Mabalacat as most were heading that way and then on to the new expressway. A couple of passengers got the bus to stop at a wet and dry fish stall and I noticed the conductor place the purchased items in the luggage bay. Thank goodness no fish smell for the next few hours. What I didn't realise was that he had placed them next to my canvas holdall. I had to scrub it clean and take all my stinking clothes to the laundry. I caught a trike up through Dau to my hotel.
Days 13/16 Baloy Beach Subic
I booked a room at Blue Rock with Ken Tuckey who had never been out of Angeles before. What a pleasant ride it is on the Expressway now. Sure beats going over the lahar fields in the dry season and a long way round in the wet. The bus driver appeared to have a problem with the hand brake and at one time I thought we would be overtaken by an oxen cart!
Early the first evening we tried a few drinks at the bars on the highway. I got on particularly well with a waitress at Midnight Rambler and we were overwhelmed with attention at Alleycats Bar.
For 3 of the afternoons we spent time at the Floating Bar at Blue Rock which was much better than the one further down the beach. On the first visit the dress code was explained to us. White uniform waitress, red uniform GRO and pink uniform GRO with period! Naturally we wanted to see a bit of wildlife and when one in pink went passed us I asked if she would mind going for a swim as we would like to see a shark or too. We offered to pull her onboard before being eaten. Sadly she was not impressed. That was the last day any of the GRO's turned up in pink. One day I lost a 100 peso bet on how many would be in pink.
On the second evening we ventured out to Subic and first hit Players Bar. Lots of fine looking bosoms were shown as each girl did a bit of a dance and strip. We moved on to Kinkys but not before I warned Ken that we would not be the only blokes in there. He was a little intimidated by being massage by what turned out to be a Billy Boy. I asked another Billy Boy if the toilets had been cleaned in the last 5 years since I was in last. After a slight pause he said I think so! A bit disappointing in there as they did not do blow jobs in the bar anymore or was I there on a bad night!
We tried a locals bar where the girls did a full strip. We only wanted to stop for one and we sent the waiter away when he brought us a second round. That was a mistake as it turned out it was a two drink minimum. The crafty bastards had a sign on the door and whisked it open so quick before you get chance to read it. We negotiated a 1 drink policy after that. It was pretty much dead so we had one last visit to Players which was like going to the cinema years ago when they looped the A and B movies. We just got in for the second showing of the girls we had seen earlier. A 15 peso jeepney ride to us back to Barrio Barreto and more suitable entertainment.
On our second afternoon at the floating bar I bought a few pairs of knickers (new) from the one of the staff. That night we went out doing a few deals. I gave a couple of pairs to girls I really liked and then offered a new for old policy for others. I ended up with 3 second hand pairs still warm! One had a rather strong odour and one girl in Club 1 thoughtfully sprayed hers with perfume before she gave them to me. Club 1 was quite the liveliest place for being attacked by the girls. At one stage I had 3 giving me trial blow jobs. The knickers were such a hit they were telling me where to buy more in Olongapo. It then developed into wanting me to buy bras too. Naturally I couldn't do that without knowing sizes. 34a 32b were called out along with lots of other sizes. Of course I did not believe them and had to have a look for size confirmation. So instead of queuing for palm reading I had a queue showing me their tits. Oh happy days.
I never got to Olongapo next day so I had a look around Barrio. I found a stall that had clothing so I asked the girl for knickers. The conversation went something like this:
Me -Do you sell knickers ?
Girl - What size?
Me - Small
Girl - No
Me - Where can I buy some?
Girl - Don't know
Me - Where do you buy yours?
Girl - no answer
Me - I guess you don't wear them then.
I went in another shop. They didn't sell them as it was a second hand shop with clothes from the USA. I was at a loss to think that the larger size ladies in the States could clothe the 32a's from the PI.
Generally speaking the bars in Barrio were a welcome change from Angeles with quite a few diamonds to be found. For the curious reader I will set you a challenge - Find the lady with 3 nipples in one of the Barrio Bars.
The food was excellent at Blue Rock and it again proved to be a great base.
We had a VIP ride back to Angeles as the only 2 customers on the bus.
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Blackangst
03-30-09, 17:37
uh, why would you pay a DIA girl? Has she told you she P4P? Dont assume....the worst thing you can do is try to treat a normal girl like a hooker. Seriously. Treat it like a normal date...dinner, maybe a movie....but unless SHE brings up $ (in which case I would move on) dont do it. Not every girl in the PI is a hooker...
Devilspinkick
03-30-09, 23:28
I'm still making plans to visit the PI, but I've heard you guys talk about a Filipina network that the ladies use to keep track of mongers. It concerned me enough to change my plans earlier this year and go to Europe instead. The problem is that I work with a lot of Filipinas and I don't want them to know that I'm over there bonking their cousins and sisters. Is this really something to be concerned about?
I still plan to go .... but I'm not going to tell ANYONE at work where I'm going. I'm lie and say I'm going to someplace like Indonesia instead.
- DSK
I agree 100% not to treat a DIA girl like a hooker, but they sure do appreciate a nice gift. And most of them do need money, so it's quite easy to give them some cash with a bit of bola bola about here's some money for the taxi for this time and also for next time or to buy themself a little present :)
uh, why would you pay a DIA girl? Has she told you she P4P? Dont assume....the worst thing you can do is try to treat a normal girl like a hooker. Seriously. Treat it like a normal date...dinner, maybe a movie....but unless SHE brings up $ (in which case I would move on) dont do it. Not every girl in the PI is a hooker...
I don't think you meant that literally, but if you tell them you are visiting the Philippines they may give you some phone numbers and ....you may very well be "boinking their cousins and sisters".
I doubt that the working girls in the bars will have any connection with the people you work with. So, are you just worried about the gossip?
If you have a girlfriend or wife who is among these people you work with, there may be some risk that they will suspect you are on a sx tour.
If they are just friends/ colleagues, tell them you are going hiking or diving or something. Offer to buy someone on this list a beer and then you can say you have an "old friend" who lives in the Philippines. Take a camera and take some photos of the tourist spots so that you have an alibi.
If you lie and get caught out, then you will look foolish (and guilty).
I don't think you should be concerned. I think you should be asking them about the Philippines. Then when you book your flight you can thank them for giving you the idea of going to their beautiful country.
Travel photo attached.
X
I'm still making plans to visit the PI, but I've heard you guys talk about a Filipina network that the ladies use to keep track of mongers. It concerned me enough to change my plans earlier this year and go to Europe instead. The problem is that I work with a lot of Filipinas and I don't want them to know that I'm over there bonking their cousins and sisters. Is this really something to be concerned about?
I still plan to go .... but I'm not going to tell ANYONE at work where I'm going. I'm lie and say I'm going to someplace like Indonesia instead.
- DSK
Shayman,
Great post: travel information, adventure, humour, sex, drunkeness, falling-down drunkeness --- I think there is a little bit of everything there.
It's been a quarter century since I visited San Fernando, La Union. Was it worth the trip?
Thanks for the great post.
X Man
I'm still making plans to visit the PI, but I've heard you guys talk about a Filipina network that the ladies use to keep track of mongers. It concerned me enough to change my plans earlier this year and go to Europe instead. The problem is that I work with a lot of Filipinas and I don't want them to know that I'm over there bonking their cousins and sisters. Is this really something to be concerned about?
I still plan to go .... but I'm not going to tell ANYONE at work where I'm going. I'm lie and say I'm going to someplace like Indonesia instead.
- DSKWhat they are referring to is the way Filipinos have close family/social networks. Its not uncommon in other nationalities also. Expat filipinas rely on it just like any expat.
I wouldn't let it stop you coming here, in fact I encourage you to visit at least once if you like asian women & you like having sex with lots of beautiful young women at a fraction of the cost of western countries. You'll probably enjoy it a lot.
Don't be embarrassed about your flip work mates knowing you came here for a holiday. Big deal? Tell them as much or as little as you want. Sure maybe they will rib you about it but just smile, ignore them & remember the good times you had... ;)
AV
Devilspinkick
03-31-09, 04:33
Thanks for your input X-man but I must say that I'm going to lie my ass off. I have a good gig that allows me to travel and chase chicks fairly often. I'm not going to mess up a good thing by having to explain myself to co-workers. Granted that I'm single and it's already well known that I'm a horn-dog; I just don't want to take the chance of losing my job because some femi-nazi accuses me of being a sex tourist.
I have actually come up with a decent plan. I'll fly to Indonesia and spend a few days there taking pictures and stuff (I've always wanted to visit Borobudur anyway). Then I could catch a flight to Manila and spend a week hitting the Go-Gos there and at Angeles. I'll have nice photos to show of Indonesia and I might mention that I happened to have an unplanned layover in Manila for a few hours (heh, hehe, heh). If only I can pull this off.
It will be my first time visiting the PI and hope it is a step up from Thailand (which I've been to 5 times). Maybe I'll get to visit Lake Taal - seems to be a beautiful place.
Thanks - DSK
Hi X Man
I treat San Fernando as a chill out place. There is entertainment if you want it. I never made it to Poro this trip only passing through of a trike. It looked busy with locals. I used to enjoy the Intercon Disco.
Shayman
Sounds like a good plan. And the way you've explained it, you're not lying at all -- just witholding information!
I'm not sure what you would consider a "step up" from Thailand. The big advantage of PI in my opinion is that the ladies speak English and you can get "girl-friend expierience" (gfe) from p4p girls, and better yet you can get gfe from regular ladies. The latter option is easier once you've learned a bit about the society and culture, but not impossible in your one week time frame -- especially from a horndog like you.
When it comes to food, hotels, exotic culture and history, and stunning p4p, Thailand has many advantages.
Have fun, X
I have actually come up with a decent plan. I'll fly to Indonesia and ...SNIP
Thanks - DSK
GoodEnough
04-01-09, 14:46
Where to concentrate your efforts depends, as others have implied, on what you want from your trip. If it's gorgeous and available women everywhere, great food, a fascinating culture and an extremely interesting country, then head for Thailand. If you're looking for endlessly available women, many of whom will give you GFE and you do not care about the food or the culture, and if the ability to communicate in English is important to you, then choose the Philippines. For me, it would be Thailand every time.
So for a person who speaks Thai like myself then Thailand would be perfect? I keep hearing the women in Thailand don't give GFE but since I speak Thai would I get good GFE no problem or is this unrelated to being able to speak their language? I've been to the PI and I really liked Angeles. I hated the fact that there was not one bar that had drop-dead stunners ONLY. I don't know if your exaggerating about there being gorgeous women everywhere but that would be nice though. I will visit Davao and Makati though first before I go to Thailand. Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI. That way I can do the same in Thailand and compare.
I'm thinking of venturing to Thailand on a side trip to experience it for the first time.
P.S.. Yes, for those wondering. I do speak a number of languages Thai and Tagalog/Ilocano being three of them. I was a CTI in the Navy for the retired hands amongst us.
Cunning Stunt
04-02-09, 07:39
So for a person who speaks Thai like myself then Thailand would be perfect? I keep hearing the women in Thailand don't give GFE but since I speak Thai would I get good GFE no problem or is this unrelated to being able to speak their language? I've been to the PI and I really liked Angeles. I hated the fact that there was not one bar that had drop-dead stunners ONLY. I don't know if your exaggerating about there being gorgeous women everywhere but that would be nice though. I will visit Davao and Makati though first before I go to Thailand. Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI. That way I can do the same in Thailand and compare.
I'm thinking of venturing to Thailand on a side trip to experience it for the first time.
P.S.. Yes, for those wondering. I do speak a number of languages Thai and Tagalog/Ilocano being three of them. I was a CTI in the Navy for the retired hands amongst us.
I would third GE and X. If you were to choose a perfect place for a vacation, I don’t think you could top Thailand. Lovely people, scenery, beaches, food, history and culture. Efficient transport network and great hotels at reasonable prices. Does it get any better? And all this and the best organised p4p scene in Asia.
Admittedly, it is difficult to get a great GFE there anymore, but not impossible, particularly in the more laid back Pattaya.
Lets me get this right. You have never been to Thailand and have only visited The Philippines as a tourist but khun poot pah sah Thai and magsalita ng Tagalog. Khun ben matalinong lalaki!
Key Master
04-02-09, 07:53
Since Makati supposedly has the hottest working women in PI and Davao is the best place to pick up hot non-working "regular" locals in the PI.
I'm not so sure that the hottest women working in PI are in Makati anymore. It wasn't very good this last March in my opinion.
I'm not so sure that the hottest women working in PI are in Makati anymore. It wasn't very good this last March in my opinion.I dont think this was true for a long time. I will say that the women in the makati bars tend to be presented better. On average I would say they are no better than anywhere else in PI (bars) in fact. people tell me that the KTV bars in Manila that cater for cashed up Asians have the cream of the crop. I've been dragged to them by clients & agree that there is mighty fine eye candy in those places but whether or not they are P4P in the same way as AC & Burgos is a question to be answered.
AV
Devilspinkick
04-02-09, 16:35
When I spoke of hoping that the Philippines was an improvement from the LOS I guess I am generally speaking of the attractiveness of the ladies and hopefully that the women are better in the sack. Thai women are OK, but after spending so much time in Europe and South America I'm used to having a wide choice of women of all skin tones and hair colors and when I returned to Bangkok a couple of years ago I simply found Thai women to be rather plain. Also ..... Latin and European women tend to be more aggresive in the sack in my experience and I can get the PSE that I greatly prefer over the "yawn" GFE.
Since I've had the pleasure to work with a lot of Filipinas I already know that there has to be some smoking babes in the PI. Only thing I don't no for sure is whether Filipinas are aggressive in the sack - or if they are shy starfishes. I've beeen told that Filipinas can be nymphos in bed and this is what I'm hoping for. None-the-less, my favorite hunting grounds will continue to be South America and Europe. I just like to visit Asia from time to time.
- DSK
Admittedly, it is difficult to get a great GFE there anymore, but not impossible, particularly in the more laid back Pattaya.GH, when you say 'difficult', let's keep this in perspective: it's harder than in the Philippines. In absolute terms, it's still pretty easy, if that's your aim. Take a girl out a few times, treat her well, and suddenly, more often than not, you may be surprised with just how GF-like she becomes. The only real difference, as I see it, is that in the PI it happens more often on the first, er, date, while in Thailand you kind of have to prove yourself by going back a couple times.
Cunning Stunt
04-03-09, 02:54
GH, when you say 'difficult', let's keep this in perspective: it's harder than in the Philippines. In absolute terms, it's still pretty easy, if that's your aim. Take a girl out a few times, treat her well, and suddenly, more often than not, you may be surprised with just how GF-like she becomes. The only real difference, as I see it, is that in the PI it happens more often on the first, er, date, while in Thailand you kind of have to prove yourself by going back a couple times.
Yes, I know its still far from being difficult, but the great days of the impromptu GFE in LOS are gone. Pull up a sandbag and swing that light - but I remember, in the old days, bar fining girls and spending days with them. Or, on one memorable instance, 1 month down on a beach in Samui. Girls didn't used to be so materialistic and businesslike and there was no such thing as a ST (unless at your preference). I can understand the motivation as, like pro sports players, their careers are short and precarious and they need to make as much possible in as short a time as possible. But it doesn't mean that I have to like it.
In The Philippines, the girls are still of course looking after Number 1 and the main chance. But they are much more willing to enter into a relationship with the punter and at least attempt to give the satisfying illusion of intimacy rather than a cold, calculating business deal. This is why, if you enjoy the GFE over the PSE, the Philippines is the better bet.
When I spoke of hoping that the Philippines was an improvement from the LOS I guess I am generally speaking of the attractiveness of the ladies and hopefully that the women are better in the sack. Thai women are OK, but after spending so much time in Europe and South America I'm used to having a wide choice of women of all skin tones and hair colors and when I returned to Bangkok a couple of years ago I simply found Thai women to be rather plain.Well if asian women dont float your boat then you have your answer already DSK.
Also ..... Latin and European women tend to be more aggresive in the sack in my experience and I can get the PSE that I greatly prefer over the "yawn" GFE.You can get PSE anywhere in the world if you look for it. LOS is cold commercial no holes barred PSE sex. PI is not noted for it but you can find it. 'Point & fuck' is more of a LOS thing. Pinays can converse in english hence the potential to develop a rapport. They tend to be shyer & less worldly than other asians initially.
Since I've had the pleasure to work with a lot of Filipinas I already know that there has to be some smoking babes in the PI. Only thing I don't no for sure is whether Filipinas are aggressive in the sack - or if they are shy starfishes. I've beeen told that Filipinas can be nymphos in bed and this is what I'm hoping for.Like I said they tend to be shy & less worldly on average particularly in the poorer levels of their society. In the P4P scene let it be know what you prefer & you will find it. Amongst the non P4P move up the social strata & you start to come across some more confident & adventurous women. They may take a little time to develop trust in you but when they do the result can be very satisfying not to mention exhausting. I personally feel Pinays are warmer. Pinays love westerners & foreigners in general. Thais are more insular. Indonesians tend to be less comfortable with foreigners.
None-the-less, my favorite hunting grounds will continue to be South America and Europe. I just like to visit Asia from time to time. - DSKThats cool. So if you have a less than stellar experience you can remember its not your cup of tea to start with.
Cheers & hope you have a great time whatever you choose to do DSK.
AV
A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.
If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?
I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charger for the cell phone , air time and charges to call to canada ?
Food and entertainement :
On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?
Devilspinkick
04-06-09, 04:47
Amavida,
Yes, I generally prefer Europeans & Latinas. However I do find Asian women attractive also .... just in a different way. As far a PSE vs. GFE goes it appears we have different definitions of what those terms implies. I have found ample opportunities for GFE in Thailand; but take two Thai women back to your hotel and see how many times one of them locks herself in the bathroom (definitely not PSE friendly). I'm not saying that I want to do threesomes all the time - I just like women that are more "expressive & aggressive" in the sack. That's all. I have met some genuine nymphomaniacs during my time in the LOS but I find it to be a rarity. None-the-less, my yellow fever flares up from time to time and what Mr. Happy wants Mr. Happy gets.
On a side note: 6 months ago I had to contact Orbitz customer care and have my flight to Brazil push up by a week and got to talking with the representative. It turned out that she was calling from the PI. When I told her that I hadn't gotten around to visiting her country yet she replied, "Well when you decide to come, give me a call and I'll pick you up at the airport". Wow! Now that's customer service!
Love life - DSK
GoodEnough
04-06-09, 08:14
A few questions to guy's who have gone to Philippines for work.
If the stay is less than 90 day's do i need a visa ? What happends if my stay is extended after the 90 days ?
I will have a work cell phone on location but i want a personal one. Where do i get a cell phone in Manila (name , address and website would be nice). What are the charger for the cell phone , air time and charges to call to canada ?
Food and entertainement :
On average how much can 3 descent meals cost in a city like Manila ? What are the good local restaurants and the best places to visit ?
Unless you arrange otherwise beforehand, you will get a 21 day visitor's visa on arrival. You can extend it at one of the local immigration offices or just pay the accumulated fine on departure.
You can buy cell phones anywhere. There are stores all over the city and you can by used phones at pawn shops. A prepaid sim card will cost you a dollar or two and you can purchase cell time, (called "loads" here) almost anywhere in any amount you like. Calls to N. American are typically about Php15 ($.30) per minute, so you're far better off with Skype Out or one of the other VOIP services. I think I pay slightly over $.01 per minute to the US with Skype Out.
Manila is an enormous city of about 11 million people, and it's impossible to give you the names of all the good restaurants. I suggest you stick to Makati, where good places abound. Try restaurant row in Greenbelt. Italianis, among others, serves very nice food and the prices are not cheap. Assuming you have wine, you can expect to pay $25-$30 a person. On the other hand, the cheaper chain restaurants like Outback are all over the place as well, and there's a TGI Fridays near Greenbelt and also one in Mall of Asia. Hard Rock Cafe is in the same building at TGI Fridays in Makati.
GE
dpk: for the porn star experience you seek, brasileras are the bomb. of course you can find the occasional asian who can be as slutty as a rebecca linares for example, but the odds are much better that brasileras in particular, and latinas in general, will meet your needs.
filipinas, "the most occidental of the orientals", are much more latin like than their se asian sisters. in looks, in attitude, in everything. most are very horny, but they are also very catholic so there is this faustian conflict going on inside most the heads of most filipinas. for example, they love to dance sexy and look in the mirror or do it with other girls, but often if they dance sexy for a guy it will be about 10 seconds followed by giggles and an embarrassed smile. once you get one to get over "hiya" (literally "shame" but more accurately described as the filipino sense of being a "good" or "simple" girl), they can be the best xxx models imaginable.
this is part of why i believe that you need to be with a filipina more than a few hours to truly get the best out of her. you will find that second and third times together with the same girl often result in less inhibitions. many also are fascinated by the idea of watching porn, though few will admit it. fire up a porn dvd in the laptop and she will turn away. but leave it running while you go to the restroom and 90% of the time they will be watching enraptured (peek out from the corner to see rather than letting them know you are returning as they will not want you to see how interested they really are!
GregLondon
04-07-09, 12:02
Hi I'm in Angeles now and wil o down to Cebu on Friday. I was thinking of going from there to CDO and then overland to Davao and then back from there. There seem to be huge numbers of ready and willing chics online from these places. However a couple of long term viistors here have suggested that Dumaguete is a much more pleasant city to visit. I've looked in the guidebooks and it seems nice. The problem is that there are vey few chics online frommthere so I don't know whether it wilmbe a good hunting ground for GFE types. I understand that its a colege tow but not sure whether people wil be around at Easter. Another possibilityis to find a Cebu girl and take her with me to Dumaguete. Any thoughts from those who have viisted these places?
Devilspinkick
04-08-09, 02:24
Yes Surfer, I know Brasil well and I visit that wonderful country frequently - in fact I'll head to Rio again in a couple of weeks. So I get to enjoy good PSE there (and in Europe) on a regular basis. Yet I like variety and as I said before sometimes my "yellow fever" flares up. I prefer short-time to long-term commitments. In between chasing women I like to do cultural stuff and hit the gym ..... during that time chicks tend to slow me down too much.
Is there any particular venue in Manila or AC where they is a good selection of hot and naughty filipinas? Any Charmaine Star look-a-likes? What are the best clubs. After reading stuff on the "Wrong Info" forum I'm thinking twice about visit the PI at all.
We shall see. I appreciate the input none-the-less.
- DSK
GregLondon
04-08-09, 02:47
Yes Surfer, I know Brasil well and I visit that wonderful country frequently - in fact I'll head to Rio again in a couple of weeks. So I get to enjoy good PSE there (and in Europe) on a regular basis. Yet I like variety and as I said before sometimes my "yellow fever" flares up. I prefer short-time to long-term commitments. In between chasing women I like to do cultural stuff and hit the gym ..... during that time chicks tend to slow me down too much.
Is there any particular venue in Manila or AC where they is a good selection of hot and naughty filipinas? Any Charmaine Star look-a-likes? What are the best clubs. After reading stuff on the "Wrong Info" forum I'm thinking twice about visit the PI at all.
We shall see. I appreciate the input none-the-less.
- DSK
I was in two minds about whether to come to PI or not too. Mainly because I remember how wretched the food was 5 years ago. I'm nogt here in AC and the food seems to be a bit better now, thought still the worst in SE Asia.
The clubs in AC seem rather tame and aftera spell in Thailand not worth visiting. The girls on average are a notch down in terms of looks from Thai or other SEA girls, however there is a large number available and not too many punters and with a little effort you can certainly find some great looking ones.
I personally don't like the bar fine system here and in AC its not so easy to pick girls up in the street as the bars fine them if they are caught doing a "sneak out".
I went to Manila 5 years ago and thoughgt it was just too big and chaotic for my liking. Where the PI really scores is with GFE. In contrast to most of Thailand many of the girls here will be willing to hang out with you as long as you like and have an "all you can eat" attitude to sex, with many of them really enjoying it. The other aspect of PI that differentiates it from is the net dating scene. As almost all the girls speak passable English and are looking for foreign bfs the dating sites such as Dateinasia are 80% ful of Filipinas. There are plenty of scmaters amongst them but it makes it very easy to find non of semi pro girls (at least outside places such as AC.
Frank Hank
04-09-09, 18:29
I will be visiting both Manila and Cebu over the next few weeks. I know that this is not a mongering topic, but I am wondering about the tailors there. I bought some suits in China, a few years ago, and they were very good. Are Philippine tailors good? How about the prices?
Any recommendations?
Devilspinkick
04-09-09, 19:30
Well you guys have definitely given me a bit to mull over. I'll need to do some further research.
Blackangst
04-09-09, 23:51
Yes Surfer, I know Brasil well and I visit that wonderful country frequently - in fact I'll head to Rio again in a couple of weeks. So I get to enjoy good PSE there (and in Europe) on a regular basis. Yet I like variety and as I said before sometimes my "yellow fever" flares up. I prefer short-time to long-term commitments. In between chasing women I like to do cultural stuff and hit the gym ..... during that time chicks tend to slow me down too much.
Is there any particular venue in Manila or AC where they is a good selection of hot and naughty filipinas? Any Charmaine Star look-a-likes? What are the best clubs. After reading stuff on the "Wrong Info" forum I'm thinking twice about visit the PI at all.
We shall see. I appreciate the input none-the-less.
- DSK
You need to take WI thread with a grain of salt. A large one at that. You can see most guys pretty much think he's FOS.
FreebieFan
04-10-09, 02:51
I will be visiting both Manila and Cebu over the next few weeks. I know that this is not a mongering topic, but I am wondering about the tailors there. I bought some suits in China, a few years ago, and they were very good. Are Philippine tailors good? How about the prices?
Any recommendations?Umm Frank. Most Filipinos will never wear a suit in their life. Never mind a tie. Except perhaps when they are being buried. As such. Don't bother trying to get suits made in Phils. Thailand is ok. But Shanghai is stilll best.
Darth Sushi
04-10-09, 13:08
I will be visiting both Manila and Cebu over the next few weeks. I know that this is not a mongering topic, but I am wondering about the tailors there. I bought some suits in China, a few years ago, and they were very good. Are Philippine tailors good? How about the prices?
Any recommendations?The "barong" is the formal wear of choice here so suits are not in big demand. China and Korea are good places if you want plenty of choices.
I will be visiting both Manila and Cebu over the next few weeks. I know that this is not a mongering topic, but I am wondering about the tailors there. I bought some suits in China, a few years ago, and they were very good. Are Philippine tailors good? How about the prices?
Any recommendations?Yes they can be good. Yes they can be cheap. BUT western style suits are less in demand here. The traditional 'Barong' formal wear is still favoured. This is a pair of suit pants over which a funny lookin (to us) shirt type thing is worn. Local tailors outside of Manila can be very very cheap. Tailors in Manila are more familiar with western style suits becuase they are more in demand there.
AV
ShadowAxis
04-11-09, 16:07
Go to Byrons in Harrison Plaza, 2nd floor. The owner is a dependable guy, has a number of stores, and does business with a lot of Americans. He travels frequently to California. Prices aren't the best - but they'll get it right.
Yes they can be good. Yes they can be cheap. BUT western style suits are less in demand here. The traditional 'Barong' formal wear is still favoured. This is a pair of suit pants over which a funny lookin (to us) shirt type thing is worn. Local tailors outside of Manila can be very very cheap. Tailors in Manila are more familiar with western style suits becuase they are more in demand there.
AV
GoodEnough
04-12-09, 01:30
There's an excellent tailor here called Chardin, around the corner from the Apo View Hotel. This place has made me more than two dozen shirts, as well as pants and a suit and a few barongs, all beautifully done. The prices are quite reasonable, though it's probably the most expensive such shop in Davao. They have a wide selection of excellent cloth as well.
GE
Cunning Stunt
04-12-09, 02:48
This is a pair of suit pants over which a funny lookin (to us) shirt type thing is worn.
AV
They are odd looking to western eyes. A typical Barong is see through and is therefore worn over a white vest or t-shirt. It looks fine on a dark Filipino but not so good on a pale skinned westerner. I have some rather embarrassing photo evidence of the only time that I was talked into wearing one at a formal event. It was back to the boring old short sleeve shirt and tie after I saw the result:D.
FreebieFan
04-14-09, 00:49
They are odd looking to western eyes. A typical Barong is see through and is therefore worn over a white vest or t-shirt. It looks fine on a dark Filipino but not so good on a pale skinned westerner. I have some rather embarrassing photo evidence of the only time that I was talked into wearing one at a formal event. It was back to the boring old short sleeve shirt and tie after I saw the result: D.Suggest instead of using the barong made from Pina (the semi transparent one) try the linen one. It looks MUCH better on the Western man.
I've worn to a few formal functions and always get good looks, except for the fact tha linen creases easilly.
This is a SEX forum and were talking about shirts. Having a good morning laugh right now.
Suggest instead of using the barong made from Pina (the semi transparent one) try the linen one. It looks MUCH better on the Western man.
I've worn to a few formal functions and always get good looks, except for the fact tha linen creases easilly.
This is a SEX forum and were talking about shirts. Having a good morning laugh right now.Yeah FF Im having a chuckle too :)
Oh well just to add a little more trivia before returning you to your regular program... The most formal Barong, that which is worn to a wedding, is the semi transparent type made of fibres of pineapple plant. It has special symbolic significance to the locals.
AV
Zackary Kr
04-14-09, 20:55
Please forgive me if this has been spoken of before, but I've been searching all over the forums for this kind of information and couldn't find it (about 6 hours).
My question is. Where oh where would I keep an adequate amount of cash in safekeeping? I plan to go to the Philippines in October and want to have enough cash to handle hotels, drinking, girls, and travelling that will tide me over for a month.
At first, I was considering opening a bank account in the Philippines with one of their local banks, deposit cash, get an ATM card from them and withdraw when necessary. However, I had heard that setting up an account was not an easy thing to do.
So, my second option, was only to bring enough cash to last me for my first week and then withdraw as necessary through an international credit card, but I'd heard that using international credit cards was not such a hot idea because of fraud, scams, and so forth. Not to mention the availability of machines in which to withdraw money.
Finally, my third option, was bringing enough cash, keeping it in the hotel safes and taking out as necessary (which would frankly make me paranoid as it is. Since I plan on travelling around the Philippines).
Could any of you Philippines vets please give me some info. On this? What's the best course of action to take?
They are odd looking to western eyes. A typical Barong is see through and is therefore worn over a white vest or t-shirt. It looks fine on a dark Filipino but not so good on a pale skinned westerner. I have some rather embarrassing photo evidence of the only time that I was talked into wearing one at a formal event. It was back to the boring old short sleeve shirt and tie after I saw the result:D.I did the same thing. I paid 1000P for mine and when I put it with a white t-shirt, it was like I was glowing. After veiwing the pictures, I won't be wearing that again:(
SergeantRay
04-15-09, 01:15
Zackary,
I like to take two ATM cards and store them separately, in case one gets lost, stolen or malfunctions. (I have two different accounts with two different banks that I can withdraw funds from). ATM charges are reasonable, especially considering the fact that you don't have to risk having large amounts of cash stolen. ATM's are more and more common.
If I am going to withdraw money, I'll often ask the hotel security guard to keep any eye on me. They're armed, and happy to do so, particularly if you tip them, like I do.
Hotel safes can be dicey. I've heard stories of guys who have lost money in safes, and it's your word against theirs. There is nothing wrong, though, with keeping a moderate amount of cash in a hotel safe. Withdraw a couple of hundred from the ATM, keep a hundred, and keep the rest in the safe.
I also bought a wire mesh bag that is a portable safe. It has a wire that can be looped around a pipe or item of furniture, and secured with a padlock. This is also good if you have female company that you might not trust around your valuables. This comes in handy for those beach resorts, and many hotels don't have safes.
I prefer to divide up my cash among several pockets, perhaps a waistband under-the-clothes belt, the hotel safe, and my portable safe. The idea is to keep from losing a large bundle of cash --especially because flashing a huge wad of bills can invite trouble.
Southbound69
04-15-09, 01:36
Please forgive me if this has been spoken of before, but I've been searching all over the forums for this kind of information and couldn't find it (about 6 hours).
My question is. Where oh where would I keep an adequate amount of cash in safekeeping? I plan to go to the Philippines in October and want to have enough cash to handle hotels, drinking, girls, and travelling that will tide me over for a month.
At first, I was considering opening a bank account in the Philippines with one of their local banks, deposit cash, get an ATM card from them and withdraw when necessary. However, I had heard that setting up an account was not an easy thing to do.
So, my second option, was only to bring enough cash to last me for my first week and then withdraw as necessary through an international credit card, but I'd heard that using international credit cards was not such a hot idea because of fraud, scams, and so forth. Not to mention the availability of machines in which to withdraw money.
Finally, my third option, was bringing enough cash, keeping it in the hotel safes and taking out as necessary (which would frankly make me paranoid as it is. Since I plan on travelling around the Philippines).
Could any of you Philippines vets please give me some info. On this? What's the best course of action to take?
Just bring a little emergency cash and for the rest just use your ATM from your local bank. The ATM will give you local currency which is what you want and it sure beats exchanging your cash for pesos. I actually bring an ATM card from two different banks just in case something goes wrong. I also notify my banks that I will be overseas.
Zackary Kr
04-15-09, 06:08
Sergeant and Southbound,
Thanks for the info. ! I'm now looking into getting 2 different ATM cards to use overseas. Also, the info. About the portable mesh pouch was intriguing. What brand and model are you using?
Unfortunately, where I'm living now (South Korea), I haven't been able to locate that kind of pouch in any of the internet shopping malls yet but it's a great idea for security and would put my mind at ease knowing I'd have that extra safety precaution.
Just as a side note: Excluding the hotel fees.- would about 1000 US in cash sound reasonable as back up? Too much? Too little? (expecting to do some hardcore mongering. Hehe). What amount do you usually feel comfortable handling? Also, how much would be a typical night for hanging out and possibly hooking up in the Manila area? Does about 100 US sound right?
Key Master
04-15-09, 07:23
So, my second option, was only to bring enough cash to last me for my first week and then withdraw as necessary through an international credit card, but I'd heard that using international credit cards was not such a hot idea because of fraud, scams, and so forth. Not to mention the availability of machines in which to withdraw money.
As mentioned earlier, I'd just use your ATM card from your bank and take your withdrawals. I also have two accounts, just in case I can't get enough cash. Not all ATM cards will work in all ATM's there. Some there have different networks than the Plus and Cirrus and aren't accepted. You sometimes have to look for another ATM at another bank. Usually though in the big cities, there is another one very close by. I think you are crazy thinking about taking that much cash with you. Bring some for emergencies and some exchange though. Compared to using your credit card and the charges they most likely charge you, I'd rather pay bank fees for using the ATM card.
I generally go to P.I. for 2 weeks at a time. What works for me is this: I take my ATM card and charge card. My hotel room charges go on my charge card. When I run low on cash (I take about $1500 in crisp $100bills) I use my ATM card and withdraw 10,000p at a time. Sometimes the ATMs will not work, out of service, etc., so don't run completely out of cash. Let your bank know you are traveling to the P.I. so they don't block your card when they see the charges. I put my "big money" in my left pocket, my spending money in my right pocket. My wallet and ID I leave in my room. If you are robbed you try to throw the money from your right pocket one way and run the other way...that's what I've read, never had it happen, knock on wood.
Do what feels comfortable, have a backup plan..a friend at home you can call for $$$ if the worst happens.
GoodEnough
04-15-09, 11:38
In the six years that I have lived here, I've never experienced a time that I could not withdraw money from my US bank using an ATM. True, not all ATMs take all cards, but Metro Banks, which have branches all over the places work fine with most US networks as does HSBC and many of the others. In my opinion, it's nuts to bring lots of cash and then having to worry about it. Better to withdraw 10-20k at a time. As to international credit cards, I use mine sometimes for the larger stores and for hotels. I've never been ripped off, though I cannot say it never happens.
GE
Zackary Kr
04-15-09, 15:09
Thanks again to everyone for the useful advice. I posted earlier but my posts seem to be taking forever to get posted. I posted my last message like 7 hours ago and it has yet to be posted on the forum.
So, my second option, was only to bring enough cash to last me for my first week and then withdraw as necessary through an international credit card, but I'd heard that using international credit cards was not such a hot idea because of fraud, scams, and so forth. Not to mention the availability of machines in which to withdraw money.
One item that is not mentioned in previous responses is that using your credit card instead of your debit/ATM card to get cash will usually be treated by your credit card issuer as a cash advance and therefore subject to high interest rates (typically at least 2% per month) from the first day. No grace period like there is for ordinary purchases. In my case, I know the PIN for my credit card so I keep that option as a very last resort, short of having to call a friend back home.
Further, regarding using your credit cards, receipts in the Phils still mostly print your entire card number along with your name (and possibly the expiration date as well). It's not obscured like it would be in the US or the UK. So I only use my credit card for airlines, hotels in the big cities and higher-end retailers, and my debit/ATM card is only used at ATMs.
Nope I do not have a problem but I have a friend that recently ran into a problem while trying to clear immigration while coming back into the States. Obviously as many of us do we take pictures and some of us take video. For me I take my pictures and send them all to my e mail before I leave the Philippines and delete what is downloaded on my computer. I then wipe my SD card clean and upload photo's once I am back home to my computer and transfer to my external hard drive. Thats me being Mr. Safety. However, many go back into States and have photos left in SD card (if you do this your crazy) But my friend left his pics in his hardrive in computer.
Ok my question. He was serriously question due to the fact he went to Cambodia, Thailand, Philippines and China on his trip. I guess thats monger advertisement there. Thats a t shirt in waiting saying Hey check out my bags. Ok they looked at his pics and obviously they enjoyed the pics where they wanted to see more. (probable cause? ). They check out his computer asked for passwords and bingo pics, pics, pics. They really gave him hard time but eventually let him go. I am sure his passport has been red flagged for future searches as well. Here is the question. Does immigration have right to look at your SD card if you do NOT give permission (4th amendment rights) I would ask the same as do they have a right to to search and look at information in hard drive with out our permission? Due we carry Constitutional Rights at customs? Obviously they have a right to look for a degree of illegal narcotics, and items that have security breach. I am interested in what our legal rights would be once being at customs.
In the six years that I have lived here, I've never experienced a time that I could not withdraw money from my US bank using an ATM. True, not all ATMs take all cards, but Metro Banks, which have branches all over the places work fine with most US networks as does HSBC and many of the others.
GE
The best deal I found was HSBC at in Davao, near Swiss Deli.I felt very safe there with a lot of High End restaurants in the area. It let me take out 20,000 peso at a time, compared to some ATM that had limits as low as 4, 000.
With the Wells Fargo charge of $5 each shot, HSBC saved me a lot of money over a long vacation and I did not have to deal with any of the currency dealers.
Pheasantplucker
04-15-09, 20:22
Can anyone tell me how difficult it actually is to open a bank account in PI?
Are they familiar with internet banking there at all?
Grateful for all tips.
At first, I was considering opening a bank account in the Philippines with one of their local banks, deposit cash, get an ATM card from them and withdraw when necessary. However, I had heard that setting up an account was not an easy thing to do.I have heard the same thing and then I went into BPI last week and I opened a dollar account. I only needed my passport and one more picture ID. I went back yesterday and picked up my ATM card and changed my PIN at the ATM. The ATM card can be used at Cirrus or Maesto ATM worldwide. It takes checks 21 days to clear, but if you put cash, you can withdraw ASAP. For a dollar account you must maintain a $500 balance. And you can bank on line:)
Robb
I have a BPI bank account myself. I opened it 2 years ago and they let me open it with $200. Sounds like minimum changed to $500. Before going to this bank I went to China Bank and PNP. All wanted 2 I. D. S and proof I could stay in Philippines or had legal status. However I have a feeling if I walked into the bank with substantial money I think they would turn a blind eye and say "Yes sir, we will be glad to hold your money, Sign write here on the signature card" and then " you want to deposit "only"$20, 000.
Side Note: Ever notice when money is involved whether at store, resturaunt, shopping or buying anything its always "sir thats P______ ONLY. Only meaning wow what a bargain for me! Imagine buying a piece of crap car. Sir thats ONLY P 250, 000. I feel like I am getting a great deal at an ONLY PRICE! Ha ha just something to laugh at.
FreebieFan
04-16-09, 00:53
The best deal I found was HSBC at in Davao, near Swiss Deli. I felt very safe there with a lot of High End restaurants in the area. It let me take out 20, 000 peso at a time, compared to some ATM that had limits as low as 4, 000.
With the Wells Fargo charge of $5 each shot, HSBC saved me a lot of money over a long vacation and I did not have to deal with any of the currency dealers.Ok funny story. I use the HSBC ATM in Global city Manila. Went there to withdraw recently and there's a restaurant opposite ATM entrance. Waitress was cleaning the windows. Got my money exited. Saw her, looked up and smiled. She smiled. We smiled. "Hello, how are you etc". Phone numbers, and lo and behold some few hours later shes in my car. And my digit is getting inserted in that warm fuzzy place we like. Etc.
Sadly next trip when I went to that ATM she wasnt there anymore.
Robb, If I'm not mistaken, you passport would have a differnet visa than those of us who come as tourists. Maybe that is why you could easily open up an account.
X
I have heard the same thing and then I went into BPI last week and I opened a dollar account. I only needed my passport and one more picture ID. I went back yesterday and picked up my ATM card and changed my PIN at the ATM. The ATM card can be used at Cirrus or Maesto ATM worldwide. It takes checks 21 days to clear, but if you put cash, you can withdraw ASAP. For a dollar account you must maintain a $500 balance. And you can bank on line:)
Robb
ThatGuy865
04-16-09, 02:29
nope i do not have a problem but i have a friend that recently ran into a problem while trying to clear immigration while coming back into the states. obviously as many of us do we take pictures and some of us take video. for me i take my pictures and send them all to my e mail before i leave the philippines and delete what is downloaded on my computer. i then wipe my sd card clean and upload photo's once i am back home to my computer and transfer to my external hard drive. thats me being mr. safety. however, many go back into states and have photos left in sd card (if you do this your crazy) but my friend left his pics in his hardrive in computer.
ok my question. he was serriously question due to the fact he went to cambodia, thailand, philippines and china on his trip. i guess thats monger advertisement there. thats a t shirt in waiting saying hey check out my bags. ok they looked at his pics and obviously they enjoyed the pics where they wanted to see more. (probable cause? ). they check out his computer asked for passwords and bingo pics, pics, pics. they really gave him hard time but eventually let him go. i am sure his passport has been red flagged for future searches as well. here is the question. does immigration have right to look at your sd card if you do not give permission (4th amendment rights) i would ask the same as do they have a right to to search and look at information in hard drive with out our permission? due we carry constitutional rights at customs? obviously they have a right to look for a degree of illegal narcotics, and items that have security breach. i am interested in what our legal rights would be once being at customs.in the usa, customs definitely have the right to search your laptop, camera, sd cards, whatever. just think about it. ****s would be able to export their wares easy if they couldn't.
SergeantRay
04-16-09, 02:56
Zackary,
My safe is a Pacsafe TravelSafe 100, available via this link:
http://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/pacsafe-travel-safe-p-310.html
I was very pleased with my purchase.
I knew a couple of Dutch guys who would stay for a month and put everything on a credit card. So they charged the room, most or many of their meals, and their laundry. There is no need to carry huge amounts of cash or to exchange money, and once these expenses are paid, you won't need a ton of cash. I just prefer to pay as I go.
I also forgot to mention that you have to watch that Filipinos don't try to stick you with an additional fee for a credit card, including American Express. They're not supposed to do it, but the SOB's commonly do this in the Philippines.
I'll also take a couple of hundred in US 100$ notes. This is a backup in case the ATM's are down, and come in handy if you're out in the boonies and are out of pesos.
SergeantRay
04-16-09, 03:05
By the way, a common problem is having too much money. I've cashed US hundred dollar bills and have had the changer try to give me all 1000 Peso notes! Outside of your hotel, the casino, or major stores, you simply can't change big peso notes.
This is even worse in the province. I was in the Camotes, and the whole economy seemed to run on nickels and dimes. A hundred Peso note was like a $10,000 bill.
So I buy a coin purse and keep all of my coins and small notes (20's and 50's). Otherwise, the taxi driver is going to pretend like he doesn't have change for a 100 Peso note.
It's appalling how many stores don't have change. Here in America we take it for granted that a cashier starts with a change/cash drawer.
So hoard your small bills and coins.
Southbound69
04-16-09, 04:12
[QUOTE=SergeantRay]Zackary,
My safe is a Pacsafe TravelSafe 100, available via this link:
http://www.corporatetravelsafety.com/catalog/pacsafe-travel-safe-p-310.html
I was very pleased with my purchase.
I also purchased a Pacsafe a few years ago. Mine was the one that looks like a net that you can put a backpack inside it. My advice is to not be overly confident in it. They use hardened steel cables in it's construction. One day I was curious as to just how tough and secure this divice is. I grabbed a good set of standard wire cutters (side cutters). With some effort I was able to cut clean through one of the cables. Yes, it is a tough cable but it is fairly easily compromised. It is good for keeping the honest guys out of your stuff but if someone has the right tools they can easily get in. I no longer use mine.
Southbound69
nope i do not have a problem but i have a friend that recently ran into a problem while trying to clear immigration while coming back into the states. obviously as many of us do we take pictures and some of us take video. for me i take my pictures and send them all to my e mail before i leave the philippines and delete what is downloaded on my computer. i then wipe my sd card clean and upload photo's once i am back home to my computer and transfer to my external hard drive. thats me being mr. safety. however, many go back into states and have photos left in sd card (if you do this your crazy) but my friend left his pics in his hardrive in computer.
ok my question. he was serriously question due to the fact he went to cambodia, thailand, philippines and china on his trip. i guess thats monger advertisement there. thats a t shirt in waiting saying hey check out my bags. ok they looked at his pics and obviously they enjoyed the pics where they wanted to see more. (probable cause? ). they check out his computer asked for passwords and bingo pics, pics, pics. they really gave him hard time but eventually let him go. i am sure his passport has been red flagged for future searches as well. here is the question. does immigration have right to look at your sd card if you do not give permission (4th amendment rights) i would ask the same as do they have a right to to search and look at information in hard drive with out our permission? due we carry constitutional rights at customs? obviously they have a right to look for a degree of illegal narcotics, and items that have security breach. i am interested in what our legal rights would be once being at customs.
yes they have the right and they can confirep001e your pc and tear it apart and also confirep001e all your software if they want. you have no rights to privacy upon entry. i am not a lawyer but this shit is public knowledge located all over the internet.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/border_search_exception
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/united_states_v._arnold
back in 06’ i was stopped at lax. they saw the multiple visa stamps from thailand etc…and so they went looking. found no nudy photos of my own but did find some photos from lbfm.net (that i forgot about) and some iraq beheading videos (from now defunct orgish.com.) they gave me the third degree asking me how did i get my job etc, "do you have college degree?" when i told him i wanted to see a lawyer they told me they can hold me there indefinitely until i answer their questions.
i was about start “showing my black ass” but then i thought about my ex-wife who was waiting on me and just complied with their stupid and pointless demands.
the whole ordeal had racial overtones. the whole thing went downhill when the luggage inspector asked “wow your job must pay a lot”….and i told him if it didn’t i wouldn’t be able to travel. all white screeners and pocket full of money black 20 something year old soooooo…..
then the mother fucker had the nerve to tell me he expects better behavior from someone who works for the government.
i was beside myself with anger and even till this day it pisses me off when i think about it but in retrospect if i got to be inconvenienced so they can catch bin laden “wanna bes” and ****s then i guess it is cool.
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Can anyone tell me how difficult it actually is to open a bank account in PI?
Are they familiar with internet banking there at all?
Grateful for all tips.
You need a permanent resident visa. You can also have a Filipino that you "trust" open a joint with you.
Zackary Kr
04-16-09, 05:21
I have heard the same thing and then I went into BPI last week and I opened a dollar account. I only needed my passport and one more picture ID. I went back yesterday and picked up my ATM card and changed my PIN at the ATM. The ATM card can be used at Cirrus or Maesto ATM worldwide. It takes checks 21 days to clear, but if you put cash, you can withdraw ASAP. For a dollar account you must maintain a $500 balance. And you can bank on line:)
RobbHey Robb,
That information sounds hopeful. Anyone else tried this recently? I read some article (can't remember where I saw it) that the Philippine banks were changing their policies for foreigners and only requiring about 2 forms when there were a ton of forms required before.
It sounds like it's a newer policy nowadays. Can anyone else confirm this?
Professional
04-16-09, 05:29
I actually to the opposite of what was suggested. I bring enough cash to get me out of an emergency and do not spend it until the last few days of my trip that way I have don't have to carry large amounts of cash I just my atm card throughout my entire trip and just keep around 7 to 8 hundred hidden in my bags, pockets, hotel safe and any combination of those hiding places. That way I don't have to carry large amounts of cash and just live off my atm I usually spend a few hundred dollars a couple of days before I leave so I can save on the atm fees and bring home the rest.
This is sooooo true! If you get off the beaten track you would be surprised at how hard it is to use big bills!
In Ormoc Leyte, at the largest hotel in town, I paid for a few days in cash (early evening so maybe the cashier was gone) and they didn't have the 60 pesos in change. I suggested they just pay me back later. That night when I got back to the hotel, they handed me a plastic bag with 60 pesos in coin.
X
By the way, a common problem is having too much money. I've cashed US hundred dollar bills and have had the changer try to give me all 1000 Peso notes! Outside of your hotel, the casino, or major stores, you simply can't change big peso notes.
This is even worse in the province. I was in the Camotes, and the whole economy seemed to run on nickels and dimes. A hundred Peso note was like a $10,000 bill.
So I buy a coin purse and keep all of my coins and small notes (20's and 50's). Otherwise, the taxi driver is going to pretend like he doesn't have change for a 100 Peso note.
It's appalling how many stores don't have change. Here in America we take it for granted that a cashier starts with a change/cash drawer.
So hoard your small bills and coins.
Lustforthrust
04-16-09, 11:39
I went to a suburb of Manila in '94 (can't remember the name) and the entire town ground to a halt when I tried to change $10 worth of Peso. It was as if someone rose from the dead!
If had told anyone this, they would never have believed it.
GoodEnough
04-16-09, 12:41
The best deal I found was HSBC at in Davao, near Swiss Deli.I felt very safe there with a lot of High End restaurants in the area. It let me take out 20,000 peso at a time, compared to some ATM that had limits as low as 4, 000.
With the Wells Fargo charge of $5 each shot, HSBC saved me a lot of money over a long vacation and I did not have to deal with any of the currency dealers.
It's true that HSBC is the best deal in town, but it's nowhere near Swiss Deli. It's about 100 meters from the Venue, across the street from the National Bank building and diagonally across from Bigby's. It's also the only HSBC branch in the city.
GE
What's with the guys who travel with cash? I don't get it. I've been traveling across Asia since 2000 and have brought nothing but my ATM and $500 for emergency. My bank statement showed a deduction of $2 for whatever amount i withdrew and i find it quite a bargain for the convenience of not bringing cash.
Bringing cash involves asking for perfect bills from your bank at home, which is not always possible, and involves keeping them in good conditions on the trip. When you loose them, you loose everything. With my ATM, I just loose a piece of plastic.
Rubberyman
04-16-09, 13:15
What's with the guys who travel with cash? I don't get it. I've been traveling across Asia since 2000 and have brought nothing but my ATM and $500 for emergency.
Sometimes ATM cards don't work.
I have had cards rejected in AC for example and had to hunt out other ATMs. This is often because of ATM malfunction. I always bring enough cash to enable me to get by for a week or so and never had a problem.
If you have not had any problems in the Phils then you are lucky basically.
However with your $500 you are covered anyhow.
Robb, If I'm not mistaken, you passport would have a differnet visa than those of us who come as tourists. Maybe that is why you could easily open up an account. XThey just looked at my passport for identification, never looked at my visa status. I dropped $2500 cash, so maybe they just said never mind and took it. I really didn't think there was any requirements on living in the PI.
Funny story is that I went to BPI on-line and registered for on-line banking. I received an email stating that they received my request and they would call me. Sure enough, today I received a car to verify that it was me who was trying to access my account on-line. Goodshit.philippines:)
Robb
GE, I guess I have the name, wrong. If you leave Swiss Deli and take the large pedestrian bridge to cross the busy street you will exit the bridge near a corner pharmacy. If you walk past the pharmacy toward Microtell Hotel/ McDonald's, it should be the first or second business from the pharmacy. I may have the name wrong, but I remember going there at least twice because it was convenient and allowed the largest withdraw amount I could find.
Also the area was nice, I ate at a few of the restaurants near the bank and enjoyed the late night bakeries.
I also bought the pacsafe for my last trip. I ended up not using it once because it just was not worth the hasle for me. The only concern I had was someone stealing my laptop, and I always looked for a place in the room to hide it. I should have used the pacsafe more, but I was just lazy and useally just wanted to get out the room and find some P*****.
As far as the customs, I got red flagged my first 2 times and had my stuff checked and my digital camera searched when I arrived home from Manila. The last trip, when they asked where I was comming from, I said Hong Kong, since that is where I changed planes for the flight home. No problems that time, I was just some middled aged white guy on a businees trip.
BB: Homeland security already KNOWS where you are coming from before you answer. You are VERY lucky that answering HK (your transit point) did not get you flagged for secondary. If you failed to list the Philippines on your customs form you have committed a Federal Felony. In sum, you didgeed a bullet but i would NOT make a habit of it.
On the form where you list countries visited you could list HK first but omitting a country you visited (and they can tell without looking at your passport stamps) is a dangerous game indeed. Out of almost 40 trips to the PI I have gotten flagged upon return a total of twice (and once because I listed the generic viagra I was bringing back as you are REQUIRED TO DO).
If you have racy pictures better to send them home electronically then delete from memory stick or at least hide the memory stick (and have another stick with touristy pics in the camera).
Also be aware that pornograpy is illegal in the PI (and they are more prudish that CBP here at home) so you don't want to get caught there either.
Pheasantplucker
04-16-09, 21:02
Many tks to all for the info.
I'll give it a go.
Happy Hunting!
PR
Shanghai Lover
04-17-09, 00:10
Hi ,
I am planning to visit Banaue in the first week of June. Is autobus the only bus service to gat up there. Do they have assigned seating or free seating . Could anyone suggest a good clean hotel to stay there. Any recoomendations on Bataad
This is sooooo true! If you get off the beaten track you would be surprised at how hard it is to use big bills!
XYes very true and you notice the ATM's will only give you 1000 or 500 peso notes.
The way to beat this is always get foreign currency from your own bank before you leave. I usually request 200 US dollars worth of pesos but i request it all in small bills. This way you have plenty of 20 - 200 peso notes for things like taxis and tipping.
If you have ever had the frustration of trying to pay a 60 peso taxi fare with a 500 or 1000 peso bill this will save you a huge headache.
Sometimes ATM cards don't work.
I have had cards rejected in AC for example and had to hunt out other ATMs. This is often because of ATM malfunction. I always bring enough cash to enable me to get by for a week or so and never had a problem.
If you have not had any problems in the Phils then you are lucky basically.
However with your $500 you are covered anyhow.I would have agreed with bringing little cash until a few years back when the earthquake destroyed the cable carrying communications from Asia to the western nations. There was a huge line at checkout at my hotel. People getting their credit/debit cards refused for no reason. Even calls to Visa, Mastercard etc were of no help. I was able to get away with cash. And get to my plane. Left about 60 people to miss their flights. And probably had to stay another day or late departure. A few hours later it was discovered what happened. And I was thankful I had that cash. Remember Asia is not the safest as far as earthquakes. Floods. Etc. And other things that could make your life hell for a short time.
One Eyed Man
04-17-09, 03:34
Homeland security already KNOWS where you are coming from before you answer.... If you failed to list the Philippines on your customs form you have committed a Federal Felony. In sum, you didgeed a bullet but i would NOT make a habit of it ... but omitting a country you visited (and they can tell without looking at your passport stamps) is a dangerous game indeed.
Surfer, thanks for sharing this info, but how to you know this? How does Homeland Security know what countries you've been to? (Because they get copies of flight logs?) Omitting a country you visited is a felony? What if you forget one?
... how to you know this? How does Homeland Security know what countries you've been to?Hey OEM, one of my business's is in the security industry. Our travel movements are logged trust me. In my home country (Australia) the government is phasing in Passports with a chip in them. Its all stored & available to officials. Airlines log your details. Airports log your details. etc etc. These day's there is no horseing around when dealing with officials in airports. Answer all questions truthfully & don't carry anything you should'nt be carrying because its all deadly serious now.
Im recent years, on return to Australian airports, I have been pulled aside many times & put through the 'third degree' with questions, thorough x-ray & bag search down to the last detail. My crime? Im flagged because Im a frequent traveller to Asia (I live in PI) thats all... Some of the bitches who work in Australian customs are real sneering ball breaking smart arses. I dont let them get to me, when they are doing their little act i just tune out & think of the last wonderful session I had with a chick before getting on the plane. :)
These day's, before travel, I 'sterilise' my electronic devices of any pics/info that could give these goons in customs something to annoy me with.
AV
Hey OEM, one of my business's is in the security industry. Our travel movements are logged trust me. In my home country (Australia) the government is phasing in Passports with a chip in them. Its all stored & available to officials. Airlines log your details. Airports log your details. etc etc. These day's there is no horseing around when dealing with officials in airports. Answer all questions truthfully & don't carry anything you should'nt be carrying because its all deadly serious now.
Im recent years, on return to Australian airports, I have been pulled aside many times & put through the 'third degree' with questions, thorough x-ray & bag search down to the last detail. My crime? Im flagged because Im a frequent traveller to Asia (I live in PI) thats all... Some of the bitches who work in Australian customs are real sneering ball breaking smart arses. I dont let them get to me, when they are doing their little act i just tune out & think of the last wonderful session I had with a chick before getting on the plane. :)
These day's, before travel, I 'sterilise' my electronic devices of any pics/info that could give these goons in customs something to annoy me with.
AV
Well AV at least in our arrival card you only need to put down where you spent the longest amount of time in so in my case its always HK or China which is 100% accurate.
I agree with your view that the airport security has changed for the worse especialy the USA ports of entry, not as bad in Australia yet but that may change as well..
So my advice is the same as AV be nice smile a lot and dont leave any electronic evidence of what you have been doing, I am not a photo guy in the bedroom type so my memory cards are always wholesome and so is my lptop etc....
Enjoy
Wizard
The way to beat this is always get foreign currency from your own bank before you leave. I usually request 200 US dollars worth of pesos but i request it all in small bills. This way you have plenty of 20 - 200 peso notes for things like taxis and tipping.
What do you get for a exchange rate?
can anyone tell me how difficult it actually is to open a bank account in pi?
are they familiar with internet banking there at all?
grateful for all tips.i have an hsbc account in a couple of countries, so when i went to open one in pi i had no problem. their internet transfer system between banks works fairly well. at the time i did not have a permanent resident visa, only a tourist stamp. i now do, and there are some restrictions on moving money between accounts unless you have a permanent residence visa, but that just meant writing my rep in the manila branch and she made all the moves. around the same time, i also opened an account in a pi bank, one of the biggest. had no problem opening the account, but managing it became very difficult, standing in line, transfers "lost" etc. might mention, if you are a u. s. citizen, you are required by law to file an annual disclosure with the irs on holding a foreign bank account with more than $10k u. s. nothing to do with reporting interest income on your return, separate filing with the treasury department, failure to do so is big in fines and confirep001ions.
matius
What do you get for a exchange rate?It is always moving with the current exchange rates. They will give you the rate when you request it. If memory serves it is close to the going rate, but it is only roughly $200 you are exchanging. But the amount lost in the exchange rate is made up 10XX in the amount of headaches saved.
bb: homeland security already knows where you are coming from before you answer. you are very lucky that answering hk (your transit point) did not get you flagged for secondary. if you failed to list the philippines on your customs form you have committed a federal felony. in sum, you didgeed a bullet but i would not make a habit of it.
on the form where you list countries visited you could list hk first but omitting a country you visited (and they can tell without looking at your passport stamps) is a dangerous game indeed. out of almost 40 trips to the pi i have gotten flagged upon return a total of twice (and once because i listed the generic viagra i was bringing back as you are required to do).
if you have racy pictures better to send them home electronically then delete from memory stick or at least hide the memory stick (and have another stick with touristy pics in the camera).
also be aware that pornograpy is illegal in the pi (and they are more prudish that cbp here at home) so you don't want to get caught there either.alright so let me play "devils advocate" here. if what you all are saying is correct. it is illegal for some reason for me to have naked pictures/videos on my laptop or in my camera/camcorder? or have we gotten a bit ahead of ourselves here and made some kind of an assumption that these women are ****?
because from the tone of these postings you are giving the impression that either customs makes the assumption that every naked person recorded is either **** or that they were paid to have sex. in either case how could they prove either of these things without tracking all of the "naked people" down and verifying this info?
also, how do they know these images were made in there country on this voyage rather than some other country or in fact made in the "western" world and taken along on the vacation for our viewing pleasure.
i am just trying to get some clarification here rather than a climate of fear which seems to be starting from this topic.
good points devil.
other questions for those that were stopped and let go -- did they require you to delete your pictures? did they explain what the problem was?
x
alright so let me play "devils advocate" here. if what you all are saying is correct. it is illegal for some reason for me to have naked pictures/videos on my laptop or in my camera/camcorder? or have we gotten a bit ahead of ourselves here and made some kind of an assumption that these women are ****?
because from the tone of these postings you are giving the impression that either customs makes the assumption that every naked person recorded is either **** or that they were paid to have sex. in either case how could they prove either of these things without tracking all of the "naked people" down and verifying this info?
also, how do they know these images were made in there country on this voyage rather than some other country or in fact made in the "western" world and taken along on the vacation for our viewing pleasure.
i am just trying to get some clarification here rather than a climate of fear which seems to be starting from this topic.
alright so let me play "devils advocate" here...
i am just trying to get some clarification here rather than a climate of fear which seems to be starting from this topic.commercial pornography is certainly not legal in some places, asian women often look young for their age & could be mistaken for **** etc etc..
as one travels from country to country it becomes problematic remembering what is legal from one place to another.
the point of the warnings about not to carry naughty pics on your device is to avoid potential problems with officials. at the end of a long tiring flight standing in front of some bloody customs/immigration goon with sweeping powers you're not gonna be in a position to play perry mason old son.
i've read reports in the past from us mongers getting a pretty hard time of it about such things returning to their own country.
research the posts on isg. you may be surprised. ymmv.
take care.
av
alright so let me play "devils advocate" here. if what you all are saying is correct. it is illegal for some reason for me to have naked pictures/videos on my laptop or in my camera/camcorder? or have we gotten a bit ahead of ourselves here and made some kind of an assumption that these women are ****?
no it is not illegal to have porn or naked “adult” women. as in my case when they spotted the photos on my laptop from lbfm.net that just made them look harder ("he's been to thailand, philippines he has images" )so it’s best not to have none of that shit in the first place.
i mean if you don’t have anything “illegal” you have nothing to worry about but who wants to be held up, questioned and embarrassed as assholes go through your porn stash and personal photos?
because from the tone of these postings you are giving the impression that either customs makes the assumption that every naked person recorded is either **** or that they were paid to have sex. in either case how could they prove either of these things without tracking all of the "naked people" down and verifying this info?
they don’t care if you paid for sex. they do care if you paid for sex with children. they will look long and hard at those photos and if they look like kids to them then you are fucked. your shit will be seized and you will possibly be jailed on the spot or have a court date given to you.
also, how do they know these images were made in there country on this voyage rather than some other country or in fact made in the "western" world and taken along on the vacation for our viewing pleasure.
again. they are looking for naked or deviant acts by or with children and osama-bin ladenesque activities. they don’t care when, where or how the images were taken.
i am just trying to get some clarification here rather than a climate of fear which seems to be starting from this topic.
hope this helped.
my only problem was with the questioning. they made an issue of the iraq beheading videos from orgish.com ("why do you have this on your pc?") they found my answer unsatisfactory.
i was repeatedly asked “how did you get your job?” “do you have a college degree?” these questions had nothing to do with me being a **** or terrorist. they were simply jealous and just wanted to give me a hard time but i must admit i was being a bit arrogant. but just a year before that i was broke as hell financially so…..new money.
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good points devil.
other questions for those that were stopped and let go -- did they require you to delete your pictures?
no i did not have to delete my photos as they came from a well known site.
did they explain what the problem was?
yep. they asked why i didn’t put a us address down on my immigration card since i am a citizen. my job requires me to travel frequently so i had no permanent address at that time in the states but i was using a p.o. box. the p.o. is what caused the red flag.
now i just use dear old mom’s address even though i have not lived in that city since 05’ but since then everything is kosher.
ThatGuy865
04-18-09, 16:12
Also with nude pics of sex acts or just women in particular, if they suspect (since asian women do look younger than they really are) but can't prove.
They can always add your name to the "Always check" list. Where each and every time you travel abroad you will be hassled and searched. So why give them reason.
They are already suspicious of any single older men traveling to SEA, so why add to it. But do as you like, it will be you who has to live with the consequences.
ShadowAxis
04-18-09, 18:11
just remember. when you enter the us they can seize whatever they wish and are not required to provide you with anything other than a receipt for the items confirep001ed. they are not at all obligated to tell you if it's your massive collection of beaver shots, your mp3's, or the leaked box office release they found on your hard disk.
the typical customs agent starts at gs-5 ($29k to $38k) or gs-7 ($34k to $43k). this is a underpaid guy who puts up with the insecurities of having a shitty job. playing fetch with the drug dogs and busting tourists are the only highs they get. these underpaid sophisticates also have unlimited power to f**k with you. right there, and far into the future. one keystroke puts you into the suspicious persons category and at that point you might as well travel by horse.
the best thing you can do is find some online service that's not hosted in the us and upload your files. i know it's tough to go half a day without your collection of beaver snaps or pirated music. but it might mean you get to keep your notebook.
One keystroke puts you into the suspicious persons category and at that point you might as well travel by horse.I apparently got put onto one of these lists about 15 years ago and it was no fun at all. Special treatment *every* time I entered the US. They even knew me by name. They never showed much interest in my computer -- that wasn't a big thing back then -- but they went through everything else with a fine-toothed comb. Looking for drugs, I suppose, on the basis that I lived in Thailand and therefore HAD to be doing something dubious.
The good news is that you can eventually fall off these lists. At least I did, either because they figured out that I wasn't an international drugs kingpin after all, or else that after 9/11 they had bigger things to worry about. But now I guess things are getting back to normal, because they seem to have plenty of time to snoop into the computers of ordinary innocent travelers.
GregLondon
04-19-09, 06:54
Also with nude pics of sex acts or just women in particular, if they suspect (since asian women do look younger than they really are) but can't prove.
They can always add your name to the "Always check" list. Where each and every time you travel abroad you will be hassled and searched. So why give them reason.
They are already suspicious of any single older men traveling to SEA, so why add to it. But do as you like, it will be you who has to live with the consequences.
This does seem to have become a serious issue recently and is an outrageous extension of the police state. An Ozzie friend returned from 2 weeks in th Phils yesterday and was stoped by customs and they spent 40 mins searching his camera and phone. They claim its random, but obviously they are profiling middle aged guys travelling alone to SEA.
He had deleted all naughty pics so was fine.
I'm from the UK does anyone have any feedback on whether UK customs have started to take a similar policy?
Friend, but then you go on to describe what a few people have described already.
WHat is missing is details.
Did your friend ask what they were looking for?
X
This does seem to have become a serious issue recently and is an outrageous extension of the police state. An Ozzie friend returned from 2 weeks in th Phils yesterday and was stoped by customs and they spent 40 mins searching his camera and phone. They claim its random, but obviously they are profiling middle aged guys travelling alone to SEA.
He had deleted all naughty pics so was fine.
I'm from the UK does anyone have any feedback on whether UK customs have started to take a similar policy?
Nightrider1
04-19-09, 17:06
Friend, but then you go on to describe what a few people have described already.
WHat is missing is details.
Did your friend ask what they were looking for?
X
I just came back from 6 weeks in Philippines and have been there 12 times now.The last 4 entries into the USA I have had my luggage searched. This time as I was waiting for my bag at the carousel the agent comes up to me and asks where i traveled to and how long I stayed and how many times I have been to Philippines. After I told him he patiently waited with me for my bag and told me to follow him. He checked my camera pics and did a quick hand search of my luggage but to me if I was actually hiding something in there he would not have found it. Makes me wonder why he bothered. I did ask him what red flags I brought up and he said the 3 things you answered are all red flags.. He also said in my demeaner I acted nervous ( whatever that means )..lol.. i said i think its natural to act nervous when your being questioned by any officer of the law. Anyway I did'nt have anything anyway not even naked filapina pics as i had sent them to my e-mail before I left Cebu. I am going back again in August so i will be expecting another trip to the luggage inspection table when i get back
This does seem to have become a serious issue recently and is an outrageous extension of the police state. An Ozzie friend returned from 2 weeks in th Phils yesterday and was stoped by customs and they spent 40 mins searching his camera and phone. They claim its random, but obviously they are profiling middle aged guys travelling alone to SEA.
He had deleted all naughty pics so was fine.
I'm from the UK does anyone have any feedback on whether UK customs have started to take a similar policy?Im an Ozzie living PI. I can confirm that almost every time I re-enter Australia in the last 4 years I have been dragged off to the separate search area & put through this crap of extensive bagged search & in depth questioning. I actually build in the delay to my time-table these days. It seems to be even worse at smaller air ports such as Coolangatta/Gold coast. I think these goons are just doing it out of boredom. They never answer my question as to why I am targeted.
AV
FreebieFan
04-20-09, 07:27
Im an Ozzie living PI. I can confirm that almost every time I re-enter Australia in the last 4 years I have been dragged off to the separate search area & put through this crap of extensive bagged search & in depth questioning. I actually build in the delay to my time-table these days. It seems to be even worse at smaller air ports such as Coolangatta/Gold coast. I think these goons are just doing it out of boredom. They never answer my question as to why I am targeted.
AVWow.. theres a lot of learning going on here about stuff I never imagined happened. Thankfully my trips are generally within Asia..ocassionally Europe, and have never been searched. Good job as theres lots of bad stuff on phones and camera!
Wow.. theres a lot of learning going on here about stuff I never imagined happened. Thankfully my trips are generally within Asia..ocassionally Europe, and have never been searched. Good job as theres lots of bad stuff on phones and camera!
Adding my bit to the learning. Try to vary your destinations and go to a few countries that are not what they call a "source country". I used to get hit all the time coming back to New Zealand from Asia, mainly Hong Kong and Thailand. I once asked a customs ape during the search what profile I matched and he said single male traveller, returning from a "source country" (drugs, taxable goods, contraband etc), purchased ticket on-line, and purchased ticket recently (I'd be suspicious, too). The next trip I returned from China and in response to my polite query the ape said "we get lots of hits from Asia". The searches stopped once I'd done a few trips to Japan and South Korea which are respectable enough tourist destinations. I didn't get pulled for several trips after that, until my most recent to Thailand and Taiwan, an odd combination which sparked the interest of the passport desk ape who wrote a long electronic report for the search chimps in the baggage area. Sure enough I got pulled and interrogated by the rudest public servant I've ever encountered. Interesting thing was that I never got searched. The reason being frequent travel to a wide number of destinations, no customs intelligence file on me and no criminal record. I don't seem to fit their profile any more, so they didn't bother searching.
It also helps if you have a good cover story. I got into trouble with the passport desk simian because I couldn't think of anything to say when he asked what the highlight of the trip was. I was a bit tired after the 12 hour flight for quick thinking and am too bashful to be honest about the highlight. I recovered for the later interrogation. It helps to be sarcastic with them. It shows your not nervous. Also be familiar with your country's customs officer code of conduct etc that they sign along with their employment contract, relevant legislation etc. The one I had was wrong on a point of legislation, incorrectly altered a document and was rude. If I hadn't been so tired I would have had her. Remember that everything is video and audio recorded so if they are out of line there is evidence. If you know your complaints procedures and have a lot of time on your hands, then you can make a little trouble for them. It help sometimes to remind them that they are servants not masters. And their boss hates having to deal with complaints. These are not people who did well in school.
I also never have anything but the most innocuous stuff on my laptop. There are dozens of free photo upload and storage services available. Use them.
When I started traveling I would go all over Asia, now I go to only P.I., but I go 2x a year. One time, about 3 yrs. ago, a customs gal went thru my things and looked at every picture. I don't know why I developed them in P.I. (I think to give a girl copies), I usually develop the film back home in U.S. There was nothing close to nudity or porn in my possession, but - Ever since then I've stopped taking pictures period!
When they ask me about my trips I just say "visiting friends" or "looking for someplace to buy for retirement".
FreebieFan
04-21-09, 07:33
When I started traveling I would go all over Asia, now I go to only P.I., but I go 2x a year. One time, about 3 yrs. ago, a customs gal went thru my things and looked at every picture. I don't know why I developed them in P.I. (I think to give a girl copies), I usually develop the film back home in U.S. There was nothing close to nudity or porn in my possession, but - Ever since then I've stopped taking pictures period!
When they ask me about my trips I just say "visiting friends" or "looking for someplace to buy for retirement".And what would happen if they did find some pics of naked gals on your phone/ cam / SD card. Can't be a crime to have naked pics otherwise how is Hustler etc sold.
I'm assuming they are checking to sure there no paedophilia etc. But having pics of naked girls can't be a crime. Can it?
Starchild2012
04-21-09, 20:57
I think the airport guys are just jealous that you guys can travel in and out of dream lands and they are just stuck at the airport .....
so close to destination and yet so far from boarding it :) it must suck to screen the guys who just been to places where they would love to go..
Southbound69
04-22-09, 02:17
On my way back to the States from my recent Philippines, Thailand and Cambodia trip passing first through Honolulu I had the pleasure of another “random” questioning and search by our wonderful customs agents. I don’t know what “where do you work?”, “what do you do?” and similar questions has to do with securing the “Land of the Free”. When asked what I was doing there I tell them that my girlfriend lives there and that we traveled together. I find it strange that the only country that ever hassles me when I enter is my own country. I’ve only been hassled in LAX and MIA and now HNL. I will especially try to avoid Honolulu from now on as a first port of entry. Every time I fly directly into Las Vegas it is a breeze. Of course they never find anything as I have nothing to hide.
Southbound69
Redfield10
04-22-09, 02:27
Your experience is not uncommon. I've found the best way to handle it is be polite, answer their questions without getting tooooo specific. (No sense saying "well, I had a threesome with three young women every night I was there and sometimes a foursome in the afternoon, etc. And man, that mother daughter thing was great and man, was it cheap. You should try it sir. ")
I've been hassled numerous times. I don't have any "nude pics" on my camera, I don't carry even anything at all suspicous and except for this last travel, I even get rid of my condoms.
Maybe we should be taking notes in our diary and then read it off to them.
Day 1: Awoke and discovered that I forgot my toothpaste. Walked down to the corner store and bought some. Stopped in at athe 7-11 and went wild. I bought a frosted donut. Hell, I never do that at home!
Best to just be courteous and endure the grilling. If anyone else has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
On my way back to the States from my recent Philippines, Thailand and Cambodia trip passing first through Honolulu I had the pleasure of another “random” questioning and search by our wonderful customs agents. I don’t know what “where do you work?”, “what do you do?” and similar questions has to do with securing the “Land of the Free”. When asked what I was doing there I tell them that my girlfriend lives there and that we traveled together. I find it strange that the only country that ever hassles me when I enter is my own country. I’ve only been hassled in LAX and MIA and now HNL. I will especially try to avoid Honolulu from now on as a first port of entry. Every time I fly directly into Las Vegas it is a breeze. Of course they never find anything as I have nothing to hide.
Southbound69
ThatGuy865
04-22-09, 04:39
you can expect this kind of treatment more and more in the future. after 911, george w. threw billions of dollars to hire tons of these goons to help catch terrorists coming into the country. to my knowledge, they have not found any terrorists but they still have to justify their inflated head count of officers. as a result, they have nothing else to do but shake down countless innocent americans coming into their own country.it has very little to do with terrorist and more to do with ****files. especially since they have recently found a few news making ****files in thailand. first was the guy who claimed he killed the ramsey girl, (which really brought it to the attention of heartland america) and then another recently. the u. s. has stepped up the interrogations/searchs of all adult males which they deem fit the profile and single adult males traveling to sea is the first of several criteria.
Fast Eddie 48
04-22-09, 05:23
On my way back to the States from my recent Philippines, Thailand and Cambodia trip passing first through Honolulu I had the pleasure of another “random” questioning and search by our wonderful customs agents. I don’t know what “where do you work?”, “what do you do?” and similar questions has to do with securing the “Land of the Free”. When asked what I was doing there I tell them that my girlfriend lives there and that we traveled together. I find it strange that the only country that ever hassles me when I enter is my own country. I’ve only been hassled in LAX and MIA and now HNL. I will especially try to avoid Honolulu from now on as a first port of entry. Every time I fly directly into Las Vegas it is a breeze. Of course they never find anything as I have nothing to hide.
Southbound69Southbound 69,
If you travel to most country in Europe ,they do ask you questions as you enter what is your Business here and what company do you work for ,they don't ask or check your baggage in asia but I did got random check once in Singapore .
Fast eddie 48
And what would happen if they did find some pics of naked gals on your phone/ cam / SD card. Can't be a crime to have naked pics otherwise how is Hustler etc sold.
I'm assuming they are checking to sure there no paedophilia etc. But having pics of naked girls can't be a crime. Can it?
No, it is not a crime to have pictures of naked ladies. I don't think that is the point..to me the point is..."Hmmm, if this guy is doing this overseas, what else is he doing? Let's flag his passport". I don't know, maybe I am paranoid, and I know there are ways to take digital pix and send them to your home computer and erase your camera, etc., so that you can post them for the forum..but I would rather have them think I am seeing my friends or looking at property..or fucking every girl in the P.I. They can think what they want, but cannot "prove" anything. Yes, they should be looking for terrorists and not bothering us, but it seems rather easy to deal with.
Can someone with accurate knowledge or "connections" set us straight on this? Thanks.
No, it is not a crime to have pictures of naked ladies. I don't think that is the point..to me the point is..."Hmmm, if this guy is doing this overseas, what else is he doing? Let's flag his passport". I don't know, maybe I am paranoid, and I know there are ways to take digital pix and send them to your home computer and erase your camera, etc., so that you can post them for the forum..but I would rather have them think I am seeing my friends or looking at property..or fucking every girl in the P.I. They can think what they want, but cannot "prove" anything. Yes, they should be looking for terrorists and not bothering us, but it seems rather easy to deal with.
Can someone with accurate knowledge or "connections" set us straight on this? Thanks.
I have just posted two extensive posts on this subject. Right after my detention I called a lawyer and got my ex-wife involved who is a cop. I work for “Uncle Sam.” Have Gov credentials the whole nine so no one is protected when it comes to this.
( I got stopped in Bangkok for questioning at the airport and when I whipped out the Gov ID I was promptly sent on my way as in the US they don’t give a shit.) There is nothing you can do about it.
Illogic over and out.
Redfield10
04-22-09, 07:35
Interesting. When I was robbed they took the money out of my left pocket. That's the pocket where all I had was about 20 USD. Even in my right pocket I "only" had about $100 USD. I think they key is not to carry any amount more than you could feel "reasonably ok" about losing. $120 bucks for me. I could afford. After all, I can pay the girl back in the hotel room with cash I have there.
I generally go to P.I. for 2 weeks at a time. What works for me is this: I take my ATM card and charge card. My hotel room charges go on my charge card. When I run low on cash (I take about $1500 in crisp $100bills) I use my ATM card and withdraw 10,000p at a time. Sometimes the ATMs will not work, out of service, etc., so don't run completely out of cash. Let your bank know you are traveling to the P.I. so they don't block your card when they see the charges. I put my "big money" in my left pocket, my spending money in my right pocket. My wallet and ID I leave in my room. If you are robbed you try to throw the money from your right pocket one way and run the other way...that's what I've read, never had it happen, knock on wood.
Do what feels comfortable, have a backup plan..a friend at home you can call for $$$ if the worst happens.
Best to just be courteous and endure the grilling.After going through their drill literally dozens of times, and trying all kinds of approaches, I absolutely agree. No cover stories, no sarcasm, no joking around. Just a kind of world-weary politeness -- it comes easily now.
That said, if one of these sad little men asked me something like 'What was the highlight of your trip?', I'd be very tempted to tell him. It's not like shagging a consenting adult is against either local or US law. Not yet anyway.
Wicked Roger
04-23-09, 07:49
Fellow Mongers
I will post this in a few threads as not quite where to post this – apologies if you read it more than once
A quick note to say Nikki (Miss N) from the UAE threads is now in the Philippines and is looking for some fun guys.
Her reputation is well known in the UAE where she gave the best ever BBBJ and ‘full menu’ shagging including Greek, sex toys, bisexual (she even picked the girl a couple times for me), loves a good threesome...some guys that took her LT could only manage ST as she shagged them to exhaustion. There many guys here in the UAE asking if/when she will return so if you see her please ask her....;)
The nearest that you could say she resembles sexually (but not in her figure) is Ana. She has the same desire to enjoy shagging. She met me long time back and had never done a threesome but as always Professor WR did his best with lovely results :D
A few pictures are in the Photo Gallery in this forum but much more can be found from 2007 etc in the UAE thread where there a number of FRs on her abilities in the bedroom and everywhere else. I have been given a HJ by this lady in club in the UAE, she has been banned from one in Abu Dhabi as her mini skirt was too mini :D and I fondly remember being in Wild West and Flamingo with her while she chose a girl for a night of pussy licking while I watched and later joined in...
She is now in the provinces and will come to you as long as the bus fare is paid which is not that much (1000 pesos return). Also she will ask for a load so she can call you and chat.
One guy is seeing her soon as he contacted me to ask if she was around in the Philippines as he is visiting the country this weekend and if she was ‘working’. Others will be seeing her sometime next month – the same guy who flew to the UAE a while back to spend his birthday with her (she was his present so to speak) and is now based in Asia so easier to get to Manila.
She has not been knocking off pinoys etc, she does not like them, she has been sorting some bad karma in her family (including the death of 2 family members last year which somewhat rattled her badly). But now she is OK and called me ask if I had ‘friends’. She does not know of ISG and I will not post face pictures here but for those who PM and contact her I have some – well I have a serious large GB external drive full of N pictures...
If you would like to see her and experience her ‘menu’ then PM me please – she is not a young girls she is 29, slim not hanging rack like Ana, always in good shape. Pictures can tell you. But if fancy some variety with a guaranteed naughty edge then she is fun to be with.
Keep hard and horny
By sharing Nikki he has created a win win: win for ISGer who see her and a win for her (by helping her find a better breed of clients). BRAVO!
While 29 is on the older end of the spectrum in the PI for my taste, her attitude certainly seems to more than make up for the advanced years. And 30YO females have MUCH more libido than 18YOs, that is for sure.
Re Reentry to the US: when you seek the PRIVILEGE of reentering the US (not a right even for citizens), you surrender your constitutional rights at the border. When CBP asks you those questions THEY ALREADY KNOW THE ANSWERS! They are just verifying if it is really you.
Give them attitude and you will have the pleasure of secondary EVERY time. Be polite, and you may find you were merely selected randomly. I have not gotten any grief at all the last year or so, after a very invasive search at SFO (HNL does have the reputation as the worst, along with MIA). But I was never nasty or impolite during the search (which included going through my wallet and grilling me about the pictures of my Filipina GF in the wallet).
While it may be annoying, EVERY COUNTRY gives stricter scrutiny to returning citizens than to foreign tourists.
this has been an utter shame for the philippines until the recent appeal court decision. an american condemned to 40 years in prison for an unproved and baseless accusation of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) coming from a bar girl who agreed to follow the americans in their van! the only people who will be unhappy with the verdict are the religious fanatical "militant groups". the damage they did to the philippines, however, will be hard to undo.
http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/04/24/09/us-embassy-smith-has-left-rp
"[...]
court of appeals decision
in a 71-page decision written by ca associate justice monina arevalo zenarosa, and concurred with by justice remedios s. fernando, chairman of the special 11th division and associate justice myrna dimaranan-vidal, the ca said the alleged [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) was in fact a "spontaneous, unplanned romantic episode" between the two parties.
the ca said smith should be released immediately unless he is being held for any other lawful cause.
"no evidence was presented to show force, threat and intimidation applied by the accused upon nicole," read the ruling, referring to the alias of the victim.
"wherefore, on reasonable ground, the accused lance corporal daniel smith is hereby acquitted of the crime of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) as alleged in the information. he is ordered released immediately unless held for other lawful cause," the ca said.
the appellate court’s decision said it believes the two parties were "carried away" by their passions on the night of the incident, and that there was no forced sexual intercourse.
the court said there is also no evidence that the victim was threatened so that she was forced to have sex with smith, saying her only defense was that she was intoxicated that night.
"this court finds it deceptively posturing nicole's portrayal of herself as a demure provinciana lass... on hindsight, we see this protestation of decency as a protective shield against her own indecorous behavior," the decision said.
the court added that the degree of nicole's supposed intoxication was not clearly established, and that her resistance to smith's actions by word of mouth does not suffice to establish that she indeed did not give her consent to the sexual intercourse.
resistance by words
"resistance by words of mouth does not suffice to establish that she indeed did not give her consent to the sexual intercourse," the court said.
"what we see was the unfolding of a spontaneous, unplanned romantic episode with both parties carried away by their passions and stirred up by the urgency of the moment caused probably by the alcoholic drinks they took," it added.
the decision stated that it was not influenced by the sworn statement released more than a month ago by the victim, which stated she doubts if she was really raped.
the court said it reviewed the evidence presented before the makati regional trial court, and decided that [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) was not proven to be "beyond reasonable doubt."
"a careful and judicious perusal of the evidence on record does not convince the prudent mind about the moral certainty of the guilt of the accused, hence, we must acquit," the decision stated.
the court also attacked the victim's credibility, saying her statements had numerous inconsistencies.
the ca decision is final and executory and can no longer be appealed."
Wicked Roger
04-24-09, 12:53
By sharing Nikki he has created a win win: win for ISGer who see her and a win for her (by helping her find a better breed of clients). BRAVO!
While 29 is on the older end of the spectrum in the PI for my taste, her attitude certainly seems to more than make up for the advanced years. And 30YO females have MUCH more libido than 18YOs, that is for sure.
Surfer
You are right, I tend to go for girls younger (19-23) but she is the only one at that age I would keep going back for as her libido is high...as a few ISG guys will hopefully find out :D.
She wants to get back to UAE, find a real job etc as well but if anyone says here is a good job in the Philippines (something I truly dont think is possible the majority of people) she may stay and keep you horny guys happy on her off days :D
Street Hound
04-25-09, 18:48
this has been an utter shame for the philippines until the recent appeal court decision. an american condemned to 40 years in prison for an unproved and baseless accusation of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) coming from a bar girl who agreed to follow the americans in their van! while i don't think smith was guilty of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), he wasn't exactly blameless in all this. after the "deed" in the van, he dumped her at the pier with her pants down, a used condom still stuck in her clothing, because he had to make it back to his ship by cerfew. it is not unexpected that this girl, faced with humilation in front of other filipinos at the dock, would claim she had been raped.
i'm glad smith won't face jail time in the philippines. but his crass actions did significant damage to the image of us serviceman in the philippines, and was a huge un-needed distraction to our diplomats there. had he simply let her compose herself, get dressed, and treat her with a bit of respect, i don't think this would have been an incident.
ThatGuy865
04-25-09, 22:17
while i don't think smith was guilty of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), he wasn't exactly blameless in all this. after the "deed" in the van, he dumped her at the pier with her pants down, a used condom still stuck in her clothing, because he had to make it back to his ship by cerfew. it is not unexpected that this girl, faced with humilation in front of other filipinos at the dock, would claim she had been raped.
i'm glad smith won't face jail time in the philippines. but his crass actions did significant damage to the image of us serviceman in the philippines, and was a huge un-needed distraction to our diplomats there. had he simply let her compose herself, get dressed, and treat her with a bit of respect, i don't think this would have been an incident.he's not off the hook yet .... this was published a couple of days ago
by abigail kwok, veronica uy
inquirer.net
first posted 12:57:00 04/24/2009
manila, philippines—(update 2) the us marine acquitted on appeal in a high-profile [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case has left the philippines, but he could face court martial in the us, officials said.
"following the decision of the philippine court of appeals, daniel smith departed the philippines under the authority of united states military officials," the us embassy said in a statement.
calling the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) case "long and difficult," the us embassy said smith was detained for more than three years in its premises in compliance with the visiting forces agreement, which governs the conduct of us troops in the philippines.
the mission served as smith's custodian while the case went on appeal.
the appellate court on thursday found lance corporal daniel smith not guilty of [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a filipina in the subic bay freeport in november 2005, overturning a sentence of life imprisonment handed down by a lower court in december 2006.
"this has been a difficult and emotional case for all involved, especially their families and loved ones. we hope that the parties can now move on with their lives," the embassy said.
in a statement, dilg undersecretary marius corpus said smith could still face court martial just like his three co-accused, who were all subsequently acquitted by the makati regional trial court.
"smith may soon be a free man, but his legal ordeal may not be over yet since he may still have to deal with the court martial," corpus said.
GoodEnough
04-26-09, 00:46
while i don't think smith was guilty of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123), he wasn't exactly blameless in all this. after the "deed" in the van, he dumped her at the pier with her pants down, a used condom still stuck in her clothing, because he had to make it back to his ship by cerfew. it is not unexpected that this girl, faced with humilation in front of other filipinos at the dock, would claim she had been raped.
i'm glad smith won't face jail time in the philippines. but his crass actions did significant damage to the image of us serviceman in the philippines, and was a huge un-needed distraction to our diplomats there. had he simply let her compose herself, get dressed, and treat her with a bit of respect, i don't think this would have been an incident.
agreed. he was guilty of gross stupidity and conduct unbecoming, which may, and probably will get him court martialed, but should not get him thrown in jail on trumped up charges.
just as an aside, two swiss guys in cebu were thrown in jail recently for allegedly operating a cybersex site!
the justice system (or the lack thereof) is incredible! murderers, [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), thieves, are either never caught or bribe their way out of trouble, and few are ever prosecuted, and yet guys who commit minor offenses and who present no danger to the society at large are treated like serial killers.
ge
the justice system (or the lack thereof) is incredible! murderers, [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), thieves, are either never caught or bribe their way out of trouble, and few are ever prosecuted, and yet guys who commit minor offenses and who present no danger to the society at large are treated like serial killers.
smith's case was obviously political, that's why it has been blown out of proportion. people like legarda are still using it to try and trumpet their own petty agenda, even though the case has been dismissed. once the media and special interest groups get hold of cases like these there are not many ways out. their next move will be to use the very dismissal to attack the visiting forces agreement itself.
I am currently using vonage and skype that cost me around $0.18 (landline) and $0.23 (cell phones) per minutes. Is there any cheaper way to call from USA to Philippines (manila, AC, cebu, etc.), especially the mobile numbers?
I saw couple of web sites (fastphonecard.com, etc.) selling calling cards (2 NAYPINOY, etc.) claiming $0.06/min. Anyone has any experience and/or recommendations for a good/cheap VoIP, calling card, pin-less calling, etc. from USA to Philippines especially the mobile numbers?
GoodEnough
04-27-09, 02:00
Smith's case was obviously political, that's why it has been blown out of proportion. People like Legarda are still using it to try and trumpet their own petty agenda, even though the case has been dismissed. Once the media and special interest groups get hold of cases like these there are not many ways out. Their next move will be to use the very dismissal to attack the Visiting Forces Agreement itself.
Of course it was political, but then everything here is political, with someone trying to take advantage of any given situation for his or her own advantage. The attack on the VFA has been going on for months, but I think it's mainly empty rhetoric, and all that the Smith dismissal has done is to increase the volume and frequency of the rhetoric.
GE
Ge is right on the money and well understands the PI.
Re Calling services, pennytalk and the others that advertise less than 18Cents seem to all have hidden fees, connection charges etc. IMHO it is because the PHILIPPINE carriers charge outrageous fees due to no competition. For example. Skype to Thailand or China or US or most anywhere else is 5 Cents or so, 25% of charge to PI.
In use www.idphonecard.com whose rates are the same as quoted (18 to landline, 23 to cell).
of course it was political, but then everything here is political, with someone trying to take advantage of any given situation for his or her own advantage. the attack on the vfa has been going on for months, but i think it's mainly empty rhetoric, and all that the smith dismissal has done is to increase the volume and frequency of the rhetoric.
ge
some time ago i had a lot of discussion on this board over this fact. my opinion is and always has been that this entire incident was blown out of proportion by those "special interest" groups who are anti us and anti us military, chief among them is gabriella, ny city based who don't have a very kind opinion of mongering in general and mongering by us soldiers in foreign countries in particular.
having been a gi i know how stupid a 19 yo private can act, but i doubted from the begining forced [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). who in the hell needs to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) in this country
when they are willing to give it away or sell it?
spamhog
Puerto La Cruz
04-28-09, 08:40
Trial court's Smith decision was not based on the facts or evidence. It was a horrible decision that I remember stunk of something when I read about it. That was awhile back and it stayed in the back of my Phils memory.
It was Friday or Saturday when the decision was reversed. I was in downtown Manila all weekend and Nobody and I really mean NOBODY (sorry Jackson, capitalized for emphasis as I have no idea of how to write in itallics), on the street has any knowledge about this case whatsoever. Seems to be very newsworthy for purposes of those who might have an agenda, but if you interviewed 1,000 people in the square block I was in, 50% would not know what one was talking about. Many wouldn't care. Others would be bribed for opinions which leaves that small segment with an agenda as the squeaky wheel.
Not sure what your point is, but almost everyone in the Philippines knows about this case.
How many people "on the street" did you interview that weekend?
No offense, but me thinks you are talking out your arse hole.
X
Trial court's Smith decision was not based on the facts or evidence. It was a horrible decision that I remember stunk of something when I read about it. That was awhile back and it stayed in the back of my Phils memory.
It was Friday or Saturday when the decision was reversed. I was in downtown Manila all weekend and Nobody and I really mean NOBODY (sorry Jackson, capitalized for emphasis as I have no idea of how to write in itallics), on the street has any knowledge about this case whatsoever. Seems to be very newsworthy for purposes of those who might have an agenda, but if you interviewed 1,000 people in the square block I was in, 50% would not know what one was talking about. Many wouldn't care. Others would be bribed for opinions which leaves that small segment with an agenda as the squeaky wheel.
Not sure what your point is, but almost everyone in the Philippines knows about this case.
How many people "on the street" did you interview that weekend?
No offense, but me thinks you are talking out your arse hole.
XDefinitely talkng out his ass. when i was there in march it was on the front page of every newspaper for the whole week!
Maybe typical Pinay way of being overly non-insulting, they just pretended like they didnt know about it rather than give an opinion that might offend someone?
Puerto La Cruz
04-28-09, 18:40
Stupid question X. Maybe you are inquiring out of yours. So tell us what they know about this case.
GoodEnough
04-28-09, 23:39
Stupid question X. Maybe you are inquiring out of yours. So tell us what they know about this case.
True, the case was all over the newspapers and all over the TV, which means that those who read the papers and/or watch TV could not have helped but know about it. However, there's probably an enormous percentage of the population that doesn't read newspapers and doesn't have TVs, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility at all that large swatches of the population know little or nothing about the case.
GE
Good point GE. Nevertheless, this case generated a huge amount of gossip and small talk far beyond the media reporting.
X
True, the case was all over the newspapers and all over the TV, which means that those who read the papers and/or watch TV could not have helped but know about it. However, there's probably an enormous percentage of the population that doesn't read newspapers and doesn't have TVs, so it's not beyond the realm of possibility at all that large swatches of the population know little or nothing about the case.
GE
Not sure what your point is, but almost everyone in the Philippines knows about this case.
How many people "on the street" did you interview that weekend?
XI think you are correct X. Just because they were not talking about it to you, doesn't mean that they don't know about it.
Every night I would guess millions watch ABS/CBN TV Patrol!
I was told that the protesters in Manila are paid employees. Always on call to protest when needed.
Robb
Southbound69
04-29-09, 02:17
I am currently using vonage and skype that cost me around $0.18 (landline) and $0.23 (cell phones) per minutes. Is there any cheaper way to call from USA to Philippines (manila, AC, cebu, etc.), especially the mobile numbers?
I saw couple of web sites (fastphonecard.com, etc.) selling calling cards (2 NAYPINOY, etc.) claiming $0.06/min. Anyone has any experience and/or recommendations for a good/cheap VoIP, calling card, pin-less calling, etc. from USA to Philippines especially the mobile numbers?
I've tried several different calling cards that advertise low rates. Every one of them was a rip off. There is a lot of fine print with these things. After I would dial the number (whether it was the PI or Cambodia or Thailand from the US) and before it would connect the call it would always tell me I had a LOT less minutes than I should have had. For example, I remember buying 60 minutes worth of phone time on one of these cards. So I dial the number and it tells me I have 37 minutes of call time. WTF? Then, after a ten minute call I would call the next day and it would say I have 11 minutes of calling time. All the cards were pretty much like that.
So, I just use Skype. I also use another service out of the UK called Callserve. You can Google them. Their rates are lower than Skype but the quality varies. You can also text message using Skype but they can not text you back.
Southbound69
ThatGuy865
04-29-09, 02:43
agreed. he was guilty of gross stupidity and conduct unbecoming, which may, and probably will get him court martialed, but should not get him thrown in jail on trumped up charges.
just as an aside, two swiss guys in cebu were thrown in jail recently for allegedly operating a cybersex site!
the justice system (or the lack thereof) is incredible! murderers, [CodeWord127] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord127), thieves, are either never caught or bribe their way out of trouble, and few are ever prosecuted, and yet guys who commit minor offenses and who present no danger to the society at large are treated like serial killers. gethey don't want foreigners exploiting the women. thats the bottom line. i can understand it somewhat. if they didn't. there would be thousands of foreigners setting up shop and turning the entire country into a tourist sex stop.
no country wants the same reputation as thailand especially a traditional catholic country.
Bill Buxton
04-29-09, 03:38
Of course it was political, but then everything here is political, with someone trying to take advantage of any given situation for his or her own advantage. The attack on the VFA has been going on for months, but I think it's mainly empty rhetoric, and all that the Smith dismissal has done is to increase the volume and frequency of the rhetoric.
GEThe tv patrol is only 12 hrs behind over in the states. The bamboo hot line has a long reach!
The relatives can tune in 2 times every day and see whats up, and at the moment they have a comment call home.
She got a deal of a lifetime, free visa and go stateside. Best part is when she gets there she will have culture shock big time. She will find out quick about what 1 peso will buy there.
This was a put up deal from day one.
B. B.
They don't want foreigners exploiting the women. Thats the bottom line.Aint that the truth! Its ok for them to mercilessly exploit there own kind in every field of business but if a foreigner does they will be crucified.
No country wants the same reputation as Thailand especially a traditional Catholic country.Yeah, instead it has the reputation of being the most hypocritical & corrupt in Asia.
AV
FreebieFan
04-30-09, 04:36
Aint that the truth! Its ok for them to mercilessly exploit there own kind in every field of business but if a foreigner does they will be crucified.
AVisn't it funny that its the foreigners who always corrupt these young lasses.
Take the report recently about a sex den being uncovered, run and owned by two Swedish guys in CDO, who forced the girls to do " lurid and despicable" acts on cam for other foreigners.
Welll, the few web cam girls I have known were generally happy to get their kit off. The few who I have known have also gone into the line of work as a easy way to make money. And finally the few who I have known who did this reckoned it was way better than standing in an SM cashiers counter all day.
Ah well, get rid of the foreigners and the Philippines should have no problems at all. Right. LOL
isn't it funny that its the foreigners who always corrupt these young lasses.
Take the report recently about a sex den being uncovered, run and owned by two Swedish guys in CDO, who forced the girls to do " lurid and despicable" acts on cam for other foreigners.
Welll, the few web cam girls I have known were generally happy to get their kit off. The few who I have known have also gone into the line of work as a easy way to make money. And finally the few who I have known who did this reckoned it was way better than standing in an SM cashiers counter all day.
Ah well, get rid of the foreigners and the Philippines should have no problems at all. Right. LOL
Interesting that you should mention this, I was in CDO when this happened, the premises was roughly three blocks away from Mrs Spamhogs relatives. Of course the old bamboo telegraph was chattering. Heres what I got:
This "sex Den" was exposed when one of the girls complained about a discrepancy in her 'pay check', then all of a sudden all those lurid sex acts became dispicable. Since the police didn't know about it's existence, therefore were not receiving their fair share of the loot, of course they had to make a raid in order to teach the wicked foreigner who is really in charge.
That is how things work in this country, you can get away with whatever you want as long as the conga line of officials and police get their nick. If not, expect lights, cameras and TV patrol to decend upon you in their righteous indignation.
Spamhog
Big Johnson2
05-01-09, 05:59
If a girl becomes your GF and leaves the bar and goes back to her island to live, What is a reasonable amount of money to support her? How much more if they have a baby?
If a girl becomes your GF and leaves the bar and goes back to her island to live, What is a reasonable amount of money to support her? How much more if they have a baby?
Pray tell why do you want to do this? :confused:
Gravel Kicker
05-01-09, 08:33
I'm new to the Philippines but not new to the p4p scene. I've learned the game from clubs in S. Korea while I was stationed at Camp Casey. I miss the LBFM's so its time to take a trip to AC.
How do the bars in the Philippines compare to bars catering to GI's in Korea? I know there will be many differences, wondering what they are.
I'm curious to wether my age will matter to the ladies? Not that it's going to stop me from going but I'm in my early 20's. I never had any problems in the past but again that wasn't in the Philippines. Most of the Ladies in Korea preferred the younger guys due to them being "Young, Dumb and Full of Cum". Guess it was easier to get the younger guys to part with their hard earned tax payer money. I'm starting to think most mongers are senior citizens living in the Phils (No Offense) just trying to educate on what to expect.
Any idea what the climate would be like during July and August?
I have hrd PI is a place that has one of the most rains and typhoons.
Any info on this would be appreciated.
Rgds,
Max
Big Johnson2
05-01-09, 10:37
I'm new to the Philippines but not new to the p4p scene. I've learned the game from clubs in S. Korea while I was stationed at Camp Casey. I miss the LBFM's so its time to take a trip to AC.
How do the bars in the Philippines compare to bars catering to GI's in Korea? I know there will be many differences, wondering what they are.
I'm curious to wether my age will matter to the ladies? Not that it's going to stop me from going but I'm in my early 20's. I never had any problems in the past but again that wasn't in the Philippines. Most of the Ladies in Korea preferred the younger guys due to them being "Young, Dumb and Full of Cum". Guess it was easier to get the younger guys to part with their hard earned tax payer money. I'm starting to think most mongers are senior citizens living in the Phils (No Offense) just trying to educate on what to expect.
I think the average customer in AC is 40+. There are guys all ages though. They mostly judge you on how much you spend. Better looking guys can get better looking girls easier.
What does it cost in Korea? Is it LT or ST. I have a friend moving there soon, so would like to tell him there is some opportunity there.
ThatGuy865
05-01-09, 12:06
I'm new to the Philippines but not new to the p4p scene. I've learned the game from clubs in S. Korea while I was stationed at Camp Casey. I miss the LBFM's so its time to take a trip to AC.
How do the bars in the Philippines compare to bars catering to GI's in Korea? I know there will be many differences, wondering what they are.
I'm curious to wether my age will matter to the ladies? Not that it's going to stop me from going but I'm in my early 20's. I never had any problems in the past but again that wasn't in the Philippines. Most of the Ladies in Korea preferred the younger guys due to them being "Young, Dumb and Full of Cum". Guess it was easier to get the younger guys to part with their hard earned tax payer money. I'm starting to think most mongers are senior citizens living in the Phils (No Offense) just trying to educate on what to expect.Looks, age, makes no difference in the Philippines. I have been going for 20 yrs. The girls will date anything with 2 legs. The bottom line in the PI, can you better their existence for that day. They don't think past that. I've seen 70 yr old alcoholic drunks, blind guys, cripple guys, Obesely fat 60 yr olds all with 18 yr old models. The younger you are the better. At 20 you will feel like a rock star. Man you better get yourself over to PI.
ShadowAxis
05-01-09, 13:47
I can't speak to the whole scene in Korea – but Hooker Hill in Itaewon was sort of a cross between a drink hustling experience, the Dutch red-light booth thing, with hot Asian girls at higher prices. Granted, I was lucky having scored consecutive private sessions with a stunning little spinner the first night, and then a stacked girl who could have easily been a model for Playboy the second. If I recall, the encounters set me back around $60. 00 to $80. 00. Just a curtained off area with a couch for about 20 minutes of attention. Not really a good value – but far better than jacking off to hotel porn.
Here in the PI – you can get any girl out of just about any bar just by being patient, obtaining a cell phone number and meeting her the next day. They all speak English, and filipinas love to fuck. If she returns your call, you will get laid and probably have a hard time getting rid of her. I rarely gift more than p2000 ($40. 00). I generally prefer places like Don Pedro, Roman Suites (both in Makati) – essentially brothels. Just last week I had a private room, hot shower (bathroom stocked with hotel amenities), stunning girl, very good massage and some great sex – followed by another hot shower. Total cash outlay $62. 00. No mess, no fuss – don't have to worry about being stalked or my stuff being taken. A great stress-buster.
Sometimes I just go for the mid-afternoon shower and massage, pick the girl without much regards to looks and in a couple of cases have been mighty surprised! The general rule in a fishbowl establishment is you should tip the girl at least as much as you paid for the room – and perhaps a little extra.
http://donpedro. Ktvphil.com/main. Asp
I'm new to the Philippines but not new to the p4p scene. I've learned the game from clubs in S. Korea while I was stationed at Camp Casey. I miss the LBFM's so its time to take a trip to AC.
How do the bars in the Philippines compare to bars catering to GI's in Korea? I know there will be many differences, wondering what they are.
I'm curious to wether my age will matter to the ladies? Not that it's going to stop me from going but I'm in my early 20's. I never had any problems in the past but again that wasn't in the Philippines. Most of the Ladies in Korea preferred the younger guys due to them being "Young, Dumb and Full of Cum". Guess it was easier to get the younger guys to part with their hard earned tax payer money. I'm starting to think most mongers are senior citizens living in the Phils (No Offense) just trying to educate on what to expect.
If a girl becomes your GF and leaves the bar and goes back to her island to live, What is a reasonable amount of money to support her? How much more if they have a baby?
If we can't talk you out of such thing then I guess all we can say is it depends....depends on how you are going to be seeing her, will you return to the US or where ever and support her from afar only to team up with her when you come to the Phils or do you live in phils and want her stashed in some faraway love nest. Don't answer, just speculate.
Most (rich) Filipino's keep a mistress, some as little as P10,000 a month, so much depends on how they get together, that might include rent on a room, travel back and forth to a rondevouz point. I know of one kept lady who lives in a 3 million Peso house, she gets P20K a month from her very wealthy filipino chinese patron, they have two children together. Back in the day when the Spamhog had his mistresses I was paying about 10K to 12K, plus cell phones and occassional gifts.
I would use the P10,000 to 12,000 as a yard stick, giving over more will just cause the father of the child to come for his nick and maybe a new boyfriends cell phone and money for chicken fights. Of course she will ALWAYS badger you for more, somebody will constantly be sick, in need of funds for travel etc ad naseum.
These things ALWAYS end in tragedy (for you), don;t forget you will have to pay the bar for what she owes, expect P20K and upwards.
Good luck
SH
Any idea what the climate would be like during July and August?
I have hrd PI is a place that has one of the most rains and typhoons.
Any info on this would be appreciated.
Rgds,
Max
Depends on where you go, climate can vary. Mindanao (Davao to CDO)is always a little rainyier. Typhoon season is Sept to Oct, again depends on where you are. The Eastern Visayas get hammered Sept, Oct, Nov, it bounces up thru the flat lands and heads for Manila. Cebu gets mild rain, CDO gets clobbered.
Right now is the hot season, hot and dry in Cebu, lot of rain in CDO (i was just there) typhoon in Manila. July the weather starts to change.
Spamhog
If we can't talk you out of such thing then I guess all we can say is it depends....
Agree, it depends.... Depends on his financial situation.
Lets assume his monthly income is 10,000 USD a month.
No debts, no loans, no ex-wife to support or whatsoever,
then sending 500 USD a month to PI, who cares?
IMHO.
Cheers!
GregLondon
05-02-09, 09:23
Have any of you guys ventured to Palawan? The guidebooks say it has some of the most impressive natural scenery. I'm presuming that its difficult to find girls there given that there are few large cities and I gues it's kind of conservative. I'm not too concerned about that as I have been lucky enough to hook up with a beautiful and very sexy nursing student from Cebu who I will take along. However she is as keen as me on threesomes so it would be nice to think there maybe an opportunity to find some open minded girls there too.
Have any of you guys ventured to Palawan? The guidebooks say it has some of the most impressive natural scenery. I'm presuming that its difficult to find girls there given that there are few large cities and I gues it's kind of conservative. I'm not too concerned about that as I have been lucky enough to hook up with a beautiful and very sexy nursing student from Cebu who I will take along. However she is as keen as me on threesomes so it would be nice to think there maybe an opportunity to find some open minded girls there too.
That's unusual. Most by my experience are shocked about the thought of threesome. When I tell in Europe we have wife-swapping and gang-bang clubs they just don't believe me.
Finding a threesome partner in Palawan? Good luck!
Joe Island
05-03-09, 03:34
This is a repeat question. And yes I have RTFF! I'm just checking to see if anybody has an update on money changer. Any locations but I'm looking for something in the NCR or AC as I will be in those place soon.
Last trip I changed my $1000 USD cash in the airport exhange booth. The exchange counter is located immediatly after immagration/customs check point to the right of the exit doors. I realized later it wasn't the best idea if one is looking to get max pesos for the dollar.
This next trip I'm planning to use Bank of Americas money exchange service. All you need is a credit card or bank account and they will deduct the amount you want exchange and send you actual pesos in the mail. Yeah I know it's awesome. So now when I hit airport I can just jump in a taxi and look for a good rate else where. The exchange rate is horrible with Bank of America (43. 20PHP-1. 00USD) but sure is going to be nice walking off that plane with a few pesos in my pocket. Might be easier dealing with the taxi now that I don't have to flip him a $5 dollar bill.
Whats the change rate right now want to compare it to XE's rates they are at 47. 90PHP. 1. 00USD
Puerto La Cruz
05-03-09, 16:59
I just change $200.00 at the airport and then change more in the city. That $200.00 is enough for taxi, hotel and a girl the first night, with money remaininng. The banks at Mall of Asia were at 48.20 a week ago today. The exchange joints in Ermita were at 48.00.
I never tried their services but I was often proposed changes in Binondo (Manila), on the back of Quiapo, the plaza near Santa Cruz Church and the LRT Carriedo station. I seem to remember something about them having the best rates, better than in Ermita, but not sure it really is true.
Try this map:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Carriedo+Station+Manila&sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B3GGGL_enPH252PH252
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