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Interesting article regarding what Homeland can do.
http://tech.yahoo.com/blogs/null/148203
Dear collegues,
Thanks a lot for the mass of answers I received about the topic "Ozamis City: webcams prohibited in cafes? ". I've read them well and as you all I'm convinced that somebody is fooling around with me.
MikeHere is a picture of a DIA girl that was in a private webcam booth yesterday in Ozamis City. She told me it was more expensive then the normal cafe.
Robb
Here is a picture of a DIA girl that was in a private webcam booth yesterday in Ozamis City. She told me it was more expensive then the normal cafe.
RobbThe tits tell the story..
Amazing how convincing these LBFM are with their BS stories eh?
Take care mate!
AV
Here is a picture of a DIA girl that was in a private webcam booth yesterday in Ozamis City. She told me it was more expensive then the normal cafe.
RobbHas anyone ever been on:
http://www.myfreecams.com/#Asian
They are all Pinays.
I didn't see anything about Robbaf's post that implied anything remotely related to a woman's BS story. Maybe I need a new pair of reading glasses.
But she did have a nice pair of tits! X
The tits tell the story..
Amazing how convincing these LBFM are with their BS stories eh?
Take care mate!
AV
Irony Monger
09-16-09, 13:57
Planning a visit to the Philippines in November and am thinking of having a suit custom made (in addition to other activities). Anybody know a good tailor?
I'll spend about 4 days in Cebu, 4 days in AC, and will go through Manilla twice during the trip (between Cebu and AC, and right before flying home).
So basically, anyone who can make a good suit in 4 days or less.
ThatGuy865
09-17-09, 01:34
Planning a visit to the Philippines in November and am thinking of having a suit custom made (in addition to other activities). Anybody know a good tailor?
I'll spend about 4 days in Cebu, 4 days in AC, and will go through Manilla twice during the trip (between Cebu and AC, and right before flying home).
So basically, anyone who can make a good suit in 4 days or less.Forget about that. The PI is not known for good tailoring. Very few wear suits because of the heat. The formal outfit is a thin shirt which the name escapes me right now. The PI is not like Hong Kong or Thailand where tailors whip out suits in a couple of days. Good luck finding a decent tailor.
GoodEnough
09-17-09, 11:58
Forget about that. The PI is not known for good tailoring. Very few wear suits because of the heat. The formal outfit is a thin shirt which the name escapes me right now. The PI is not like Hong Kong or Thailand where tailors whip out suits in a couple of days. Good luck finding a decent tailor.
The barong is the name of the shirt here that's typically worn for for or less formal occasions, and there are several styles, the appropriateness of which depends on the degree of formality of the event.
There are in fact lots of tailors here. In Davao, I use an outfit called Chardin, which has great cloth and does a fine job if you're careful to specify exactly what you want. I've ordered probably a dozen shirts of various styles and fabrics from them, as well as pants and a suit and I've never been disappointed. I'm sure there are places that are equally good in Manila and Cebu. I suggest checking with someone at your hotel, or with another expat who lives in whatever city you're staying.
GE
Member #3428
09-17-09, 12:12
I'm sure there are places that are equally good in Manila and Cebu. I suggest checking with someone at your hotel, or with another expat who lives in whatever city you're staying.
True... but given a choice (luckily I do have a choice) I'd get my tailoring done in Hong Kong (not as expensive as before), Thailand (not as low priced as before but still a good value IMHO) and now Vietnam is getting to have some good tailors at great prices...
PI is OK but not in the same league as those three places. Plus I found that they try to drastically over charge foreigners (true other places do also but not as bad as PI does IMHO). I went with a local supplier of mine to a tailor to get some alterations done, one high price for me and a drastically lower price when he asked about the same items.
So GE's advice is solid... get a local expat to ask around and see if they will have their GF's take you to work a better deal for you in exchange for you taking them out for a meal or such.
If you have a choice and find a local you trust, always let them bargain for you.
I don't know where to ask this, so I try here.
How can I change the order of the reports within a thread, so that the oldest comes first and newest last? I selected this in the 'User CP', but didn't give me the expected result.
ThatGuy865
09-18-09, 02:38
PI is OK but not in the same league as those three places. Plus I found that they try to drastically over charge foreigners (true other places do also but not as bad as PI does IMHO). I went with a local supplier of mine to a tailor to get some alterations done, one high price for me and a drastically lower price when he asked about the same items.
So GE's advice is solid... get a local expat to ask around and see if they will have their GF's take you to work a better deal for you in exchange for you taking them out for a meal or such.
If you have a choice and find a local you trust, always let them bargain for you.I believe the guy ask for a GOOD Tailor not just OK. Sure you can find a tailor in the PI. But on the whole are they GOOD. I don't think so. And I have had several pieces made for me, several Jackets, pants.
The price is the only thing that justifies getting the jackets. Plus once back in the states I take them and have the little problems altered and corrected. So on the whole they turn out to be good. But out of the 5 I've had made only 1 didn't need any alterations once I got back.
X man here, yes Warbucks, I knew what you meant. Everyone knew what you meant. That's how sarcasm works. But, if both parties aren't laughing, I'm willing to admit the joke didn't work. My bad.
Sarcasm- is a form of humor that uses sharp, cutting remarks or language intended to mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule. It is first recorded in English in The Shepheardes Calender in 1579:
See that is the point your post was pointless as usual you had nothing to say but yet had to say something. Immaturity. That is a common trait amongst you and another guy on the PI board I seem to tangle with on the regular.
As for the quote below, Yea, you got that right.- Grade A asshole. Just glad I'm not the horse's ass. That honor is for Warbucks, aka D'etat, aka Illogic. (More like a dead horse's ass)
Lets take a long hard look at this definition.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horse%27s+ass
Horse's Ass -a stupid or obnoxious person(also a term of adress)
Judging by your posting history and the amount and tone of the PMs I have received from other members regarding you I would say you fit this moniker more than me.
Yes, we should all use the Dusit for "by the hour dates". Umm, what is a "by the hour date"? If you don't reply, I'll ask at the front desk. X. Beating a dead horse?
If you guys have the means go for it. I have tried the SOGOs and for me they were not up to snuff. I don’t like those cheap hotels you find around Ermita. Nothing like the comfort, food and safety of a Five star hotel to put the mind at ease and to cap off a night of mongering. Yes I use it by the hour (or a couple of hours) as after I am done I usually take a taxi to my home.
Have A Nice Day X
Many thanks to those who replied to my request a few weeks ago about how to open a bank account here. I have now relocated to Manila and have been here for 3 weeks. Here's what happened re trying to open an acct:
I arrived here with the 59 day tourist visa; I'll be here a year, so will renew the visa every 2 months. Having begun my search for an apartment to rent, I quickly discovered the ubiquitous request for post-dated checks to cover the entire lease period. That meant needing a checking acct.
I went to Citibank, BDO, Metro, and BPI, all without luck. They all basically told me one of two things: I need an ACR card, and/or I must have a savings acct with them for at least three months before they would allow me to open a checking acct.
So then I went to HSBC, Makati branch. Different story altogther: They were very willing to open an acct for me immediately, no problem. They did not demand that I be resident in Phil. So, I walked out in 45 minutes with two accts (Peso and USD), a VISA debit/ATM card, and a checkbook. The only requirement was that I have to maintain a balance of 100, 000 pesos (in both accts combined). They were extremely pleasant and accommodating in every way.
HSBC does seem to have the right motto: The world's local bank!
Yes, sarcasm is "a form of humor". Just calling people names, as you do, is not sarcasm since there is no attempt at humor.
But what do you call humor when someone writes somethig so ludicrous that it's funny? What do you call that?
Once again you allude to some other person (enemy) that you leave unnamed. That type of post is what I would call pointless, mean-spirited, disingenuous.
The tone of my PMs? If you don't like it, stop sending me pm's. X
Sarcasm- is a form of humor that uses sharp, cutting remarks or language intended to mock, wound, or subject to contempt or ridicule. It is first recorded in English in The Shepheardes Calender in 1579:
See that is the point your post was pointless as usual you had nothing to say but yet had to say something. Immaturity. That is a common trait amongst you and another guy on the PI board I seem to tangle with on the regular.
Lets take a long hard look at this definition.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=horse%27s+ass
Horse's Ass -a stupid or obnoxious person(also a term of adress)
Judging by your posting history and the amount and tone of the PMs I have received from other members regarding you I would say you fit this moniker more than me.
Have A Nice Day X
You cannot go wrong with Neek Men's Tailor in A. C. Mr. Neek died a couple of years ago, but his daughter manages it now with no change with the quality or the reasonable prices.
The shop is located on Perimeter Rd. A couple of buildings down from the Cottage Kitchen, and in the attached photo, the shop cannot be seen, but the sign can be seen in the upper right corner of the pic.
Anybody know a good tailor?
Cunning Stunt
09-18-09, 15:06
Once again you allude to some other person (enemy) that you leave unnamed. That type of post is what I would call pointless, mean-spirited, disingenuous.
Think he is referring to moi, X. Its no problem - this character has a long history of the 'back-stab' method of stealth attack. Finds it difficult to come up front like the real tuff guy he makes himself out to be. Sad.
At least you, with all your faults too numerous to list;), at least are, I suspect, a 'straight up' kinda guy who tells it as he sees it and does not indulge in nasty, back-biting, juvenile snipes in a ludicrous attempt to hurt feelings. As if that is possible with hard hided old critters like us:D.
Vibrations
09-18-09, 16:27
Hi pros,
How's the weather now in phils. Manila and AC. Raining? Typhoon? How about the earthquake I just heard. Please update me.
Thanks,
Cheers
FreebieFan
09-19-09, 06:24
Hi pros,
How's the weather now in phils. Manila and AC. Raining? Typhoon? How about the earthquake I just heard. Please update me.
Thanks,
CheersTry www.weather.com or www.accuweather.com.
Why not take a second or too of research.
the reason i don’t call out guys indirectly as i told x via pm because i don’t enjoy flame wars. it disturbs the board and creates an overall unsatisfactory atmosphere which the admin has to come and correct because a bunch of adult males can’t get along on a virtual forum kind of sad when you think about. not as sad though as guy in “golden years” who get a rush out of arguing behind a keyboard.
the guys that do i suspect enjoy flame wars are so cowardly and weak in real life so they get some type of excitement out of bothering people here. when i am 52 and have a family i hope i am not spending my “golden years” arguing with some guy i never met over the internet.
i have opened the door for this one guy in particular to meet in real life because i am just tired of the back and forth here but he said no need as this is all fantasy so we can say what we want to say here with no repercussions. spoken like a true internet tough guy.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet+tough+guy
i encourage all members don’t be an internet tough guy if you have problem with a guy meet the guy in person especially if you two live in the same city.
flaming here on isg what’s the point? is it some type of way to "get off" :confused:
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php? term=get+off
assume that this is not some sort of playground challenge or threat because that would really be funny. do grow up, my boy. i would sooner jump the bones of my first wife than to consort in public with a character such as yourself. you must learn to separate fantasy from reality – the japes we get up to on these boards are fun but fantasy. do you maybe not understand this?
talk about hurt feelings the guy has been taking back-handed swipes over the last few months. i wonder why? he recently called me a black ass hole. i have been wondering why i just couldn’t be an old fashion asshole (even got pm from a prominent member of color asking me about it) :) crying because i called another guy old.
he sent me a pm criticizing me for hanging out with the criminals i grew up around in my american slum but yet he looks for 1000php virgins in china town, rides jeepneys to feel up unsuspecting filipinas and uses la café girls as urinals. :)
i may be a masochist but i actually enjoy traveling on public transport. it must be the close proximity of all those lovely young pinays. i have, on two memorable occasions, even 'trapped' on jeepneys. it is easy when you have some young lovelies body almost draped over you, to strike up casual conversation. and the girls who use jeepneys are the 'poor' girls, shopgirls, maids etc, who often would just love to meet wealthy foreigners.
the next step up is fx's which involves an even tighter squeeze, but i have stopped using these, as, a couple of years ago, i suspect i caught whooping cough on one of them. too many people in an enclosed space.
x i pm you to keep our little playground antics off the board but you seem to want to take it here all the time don’t know why? no problem. i rather meet you two in person than discuss things here. now that’s what a tough guy would do.
Chocha Monger
09-19-09, 07:55
Warbucks, I guess you're ready to take that shit to the streets pinoy style. Funny that lately the pinoys have been fucking mongers up, rocks to face and such awful shit. But a monger fight we have yet to see. Actually, most mongers seem to shit their pants and runaway instead of going toe to toe with the local ladyboys. This is what a monger fight looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySPFDW2pfQ
Warbucks, I guess you're ready to take that shit to the streets pinoy style. Funny that lately the pinoys have been fucking mongers up, rocks to face and such awful shit. But a monger fight we have yet to see. Actually, most mongers seem to shit their pants and runaway instead of going toe to toe with the local ladyboys. This is what a monger fight looks like. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WySPFDW2pfQ
CM that video had me ROTFLMAO but man no violence. I am in my prime and a avid weight-lifter, “they anit got nothing for me” in that department. On the other hand I have a lot to live for. Decent job, government credentials and overall just content where I am in life to fuck it all up fighting in the streets of a third world country with two guys old enough to be my father over some insults here. Just would be nice to see if they like to talk shit in person. Somehow I doubt it.
FreebieFan
09-19-09, 08:47
When I am 52 and have a family I hope I am not spending my “golden years” arguing with some guy I never met over the internet.
Crying because I called another guy old.Mr warbucks.
Theres a few here in their " golden years "... moi included.
Age and the validity of contribution are not related.
GoodEnough
09-19-09, 12:09
Having some limited, and vicarious experience with what happens when expats "get physical" in public, I strongly suggest that none of you even consider it, whether with other expats or with the locals. This opens the door for lots of misery and there's just no upside. Kick back, enjoy the life here and what it has do offer, and whether you're 25 or 75, don't let the insults made in cyberspace by faceless people disturb your tranquillity. It's not worth it and they who would taunt others from the quiet safety of their computer screens aren't worth anything more than a little contempt.
GE
X I PM you to keep our little playground antics off the board but you seem to want to take it here all the time don’t know why? No problem. I rather meet you two in person than discuss things here. Now that’s what a tough guy would do.This is probably the best description I can find for this behavior :
Troll
1c. Noun
A member of an internet forum who continually harangues and harasses others. Someone with nothing worthwhile to add to a certain conversation, but rather continually threadjacks or changes the subject, as well as thinks every member of the forum is talking about them and only them. Trolls often go by multiple names to circumvent getting banned.
In any event it has been going on since I have been on this board with little sign of abating. Not worth wasting valuable time or mental energy on IMHO. Ignore filters are helpful..
I just buried my dad in May (melanoma) and last week my stepfather has just been given 4 months to live (pancreatic cancer). Sure makes you conscious not to waste your life on responding to trolling...
AV
Yes, D'etat has contacted me directly via pm. He often sounds very logical in the beginning but then veers off to some indirect insult (or sarcasm) in the latter part. I appreciate his pm because he is trying to communicate with me, but often what he says in PM is so different from what he says here public.
I'm not trying to drag out any animosity, but my recollection is that I was called an ass. Yes, an "ASS". I responded to that in a way I thought was rather tame. But now D'etat presents a completely different scenary which seems to imply that I am the aggressor.
Warbucks / D'etat / Illogic.....what did I do wrong? someone calls me a name and I responded.
Yea, we can meet. Ummm, you in Dubai and I'm in Tokyo. Shall I give you my address?
X Man
The reason I don’t call out guys indirectly as I told X via PM because I don’t enjoy flame wars. It disturbs the board and creates an overall unsatisfactory atmosphere which the Admin has to come and correct because a bunch of adult males can’t get along on a virtual forum kind of sad when you think about. Not as sad though as guy in “golden years” who get a rush out of arguing behind a keyboard.
The guys that do I suspect enjoy flame wars are so cowardly and weak in real life so they get some type of excitement out of bothering people here. When I am 52 and have a family I hope I am not spending my “golden years” arguing with some guy I never met over the internet.
I have opened the door for this one guy in particular to meet in real life because I am just tired of the back and forth here but he said no need as this is all fantasy so we can say what we want to say here with no repercussions. Spoken like a true internet tough guy.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet+tough+guy
Talk about hurt feelings the guy has been taking back-handed swipes over the last few months. I wonder why? He recently called me a Black ass hole. I have been wondering why I just couldn’t be an old fashion asshole (even got PM from a prominent member of color asking me about it) :) Crying because I called another guy old.
He sent me a PM criticizing me for hanging out with the criminals I grew up around in my American slum but yet he looks for 1000PHP virgins in China town, rides Jeepneys to feel up unsuspecting Filipinas and uses LA Café girls as urinals. :)
X I PM you to keep our little playground antics off the board but you seem to want to take it here all the time don’t know why? No problem. I rather meet you two in person than discuss things here. Now that’s what a tough guy would do.
Try www.weather.com or www.accuweather.com.
For typhoons or whether it'll be a bumpy flight....
www.wunderground.com
Greetings from AC!
Cheers!
Mr warbucks.
Theres a few here in their " golden years "... moi included.
Age and the validity of contribution are not related.It shouldn't matter what age someone is. I hope that those of us on this site all have a common hobby and that guys are not here just to cause problems. I report a lot more on another board because I got tired of guys here who question everything that is posted and think that they are the man. I am here to post information and get information.
"Can't we all get along?"
I have met some great guys on ISG and we have shared private contacts and I have also told a lot of guys about ISG.
It is all about respect. Respect is not given, it is earned.
Robb
Mr warbucks.
Theres a few here in their " golden years "... moi included.
Age and the validity of contribution are not related.
Freebie I have tried in vain to catch to up with you and Good Enough and even tried to catch up with Cunning Stunt once in a blue I have nothing but respect for guys my senior. Wanted to soak up some knowledge from you guys. The problem here as I have stated countless times is when I see guys 20-30 years my senior behaving immaturely. Criticizing other posters, harassing other posters why spend your valuable “life” time doing this?
GoodEnough
09-20-09, 05:24
Freebie I have tried in vain to catch to up with you and Good Enough and even tried to catch up with Cunning Stunt once in a blue I have nothing but respect for guys my senior. Wanted to soak up some knowledge from you guys. The problem here as I have stated countless times is when I see guys 20-30 years my senior behaving immaturely. Criticizing other posters, harassing other posters why spend your valuable “life” time doing this?
Warbucks, if I knew what you know when I was your age, by now I might be a guru. I'm in and out of Manila all the time, so there's still plenty of time to catch up. I'll send you a PM next time prior to my trip so we can arrange it in advance.
I agree that age is no predictor of maturity, or perhaps civility. I've seen guys about my age here--strolling around in their shorts and tee shirts, pot bellies protruding over their belts--acting as if they were god's gift to the female gender, and I've seen younger guys doing the same thing. There must be something about the air here that causes insecure men to assume that they've become irresistible to women and to treat every woman they see like a $10 hooker who cannot wait to leap into the sack with them. I've met many good guys from this board, but I've also met several who were totally self-delusional and some who were just downright nuts, so now I'm more careful given that I'm old and frail and do not want any hassles in my life anymore.
The key thing to remember, I guess, about all or at least most of us here is that, regardless of our chronological age, in our heads we're all still eighteen. It's only the mirror that belies this perception.
GE
Juant Pussy
09-20-09, 09:31
... I've seen guys about my age here--strolling around in their shorts and tee shirts, pot bellies protruding over their belts--acting as if they were god's gift to the female gender, and I've seen younger guys doing the same thing. There must be something about the air here that causes insecure men to assume that they've become irresistible to women and to treat every woman they see like a $10 hooker who cannot wait to leap into the sack with them...
GE
a friend of mine told me the secret... some guys have good personality. but it's important to have good PESOnality.
money talks, BS walks.
Cunning Stunt
09-20-09, 09:54
he recently called me a black ass hole.
hope that you are not implying that i said this for that would be a downright lie and what is more, you know it. kindly furnish proof.
what i might have said (in a pm) was that a wanker is a wanker no matter what colour their dick is, but that is hardly racist. is this what you meant but deliberately misquoted me.
i feel that you are a well balanced black man (why well balanced - because you have a chip on both shoulders) who admitted here to once been a drug pusher and think working girls are 'filth'. this tells me everything i need to know about you.
i've told you before that some of my best army buds were black but they were, of course, far finer fellows than you appear to be.
unless you wish to furnish proof of my supposedly racist slur, kindly take this to pm's and lets not clutter up the threads with this nonsense.
he sent me a pm criticizing me for hanging out with the criminals i grew up around in my american slum ...
again, please furnish proof as i do not recall this. perhaps you have ingested too much of the stuff you used to to push and are having hallucinatory flashbacks.
but yet he looks for 1000php virgins in china town..
ahh .. now this sounds like me. its called mongering and you ought to try it once in a while.
rides jeepneys to feel up unsuspecting filipinas...
sounds fun to me but again not guilty. i may once have said that the tight squeeze of a jeepney ride is a great way of getting up close and personal with local girls and making new friends. what is wrong with that? how many girls do you meet riding round in taxi's?
... and uses la café girls as urinals.
will your puritanical mind never get over this. [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118) is fun i'm sure and i would never knock anyone trying it but not really my scene. but i will try anything once. i guess that i will really disgust you when i confess that after i peed on her, i allowed her to return the complement (but no pix of this for obvious reasons). yuck!! but something else for you to store up in your insult armoury.
btw, she was not a la cafe girl but carol, the notoriously bad girlfriend of analyn. this will meet nothing to you (best you remain in your innocent, sheltered ignorance) but other, more experienced, real players here will have tried her and know all about her.
:d:d
Sigh...
You called me "immature" in a previous post and I ignored it. I'll assume the post below is directed at me -- of course it is. You can harp all you want about how you don't want flame wars, but somehow you expect a free pass to insult me anytime you want. That's not the way it works.
People judge you (and me) by our actions - not what we say about ourselves or others. The last two altercations (IMHO) began with you making some insult (IMHO) without any provocation from me (IMHO). If you have a different recollection, please state it clearly without insults.
The later half of your post below is a good example of someone behaving immaturely, criticizing / harrassing a fellow poster, and exagerrating our differences of opinion. So what makes your postion superior to mine?
Thank you for reading. X
Freebie I have tried in vain to catch to up with you and Good Enough and even tried to catch up with Cunning Stunt once in a blue I have nothing but respect for guys my senior. Wanted to soak up some knowledge from you guys. The problem here as I have stated countless times is when I see guys 20-30 years my senior behaving immaturely. Criticizing other posters, harassing other posters why spend your valuable “life” time doing this?
some guys have good personality. but it's important to have good PESOnality.
Yeah, very true.
But if you have both then you get much better performance in the bedroom olympics.
Just pesos and a lousy attitude will result in SOP and deadfish or robot-like behaviour.
Like in Thailand.
IMHO.
Cheers!
Juant Pussy
09-20-09, 19:46
Yeah, very true.
But if you have both then you get much better performance in the bedroom ...Just pesos and a lousy attitude will result in SOP and deadfish or robot-like behaviour.
Like in Thailand.
IMHO.
Cheers!
i hear stories about girls going to gigolo bars and paying to be serviced. and girls working in bar to support their pinoy bf/asawa (husband?). these guys have no PESOnality but they get paid to fuck ur favorite bar girl.
these guys have no PESOnality but they get paid to fuck ur favorite bar girl.
I don't care. I don't have a favorite bar girl.
Usually I take every day two different ones.
Cheers!
Rick Hunter
09-21-09, 07:44
Just looking for some quick advice. I come to Manila a few times every year for work from Hong Kong where I live.
I generally spend all my time in Manila, generally in Makati because that is where my work is. I have never been to Angeles but know my way around Burgos and quite a few girls there. Don't head over to Edsa Entertainment Complex often as I prefer Burgos and Burgos is closer to the holtel work puts me up in.
I'll be back in the country for about 5 days in a few weeks time but only the first day is for business the rest is for a bit of a break. My question is it worth going up to Angeles or should I just stay in Makati and drink and party?
What is the quality and quantity of girls in Angeles compared to Burgos? Is there anything better to in Angeles than Burgos. I already know that Angeles is cheaper but prices aside is there any other reason to go to Angeles than stay in Makati.
Rubberyman
09-21-09, 10:15
Just looking for some quick advice.
What is the quality and quantity of girls in Angeles compared to Burgos? Is there anything better to in Angeles than Burgos. I already know that Angeles is cheaper but prices aside is there any other reason to go to Angeles than stay in Makati.
The quantity is higher and the quality on average is lower (IMO - and YMMV). However, with the higher quantity, you probably have at least as many good lookers. You just have to trawl through many more little bars to find the diamonds.
For four or five days, depending on how you get there, it might not end up all that cheaper factoring in transport.
The real reason for going there is that it IS a bit different, and you can satisfy your curiosity. I doubt that you would regard it as a wasted trip though. ;)
Just looking for some quick advice. I come to Manila a few times every year for work from Hong Kong where I live.
I generally spend all my time in Manila, generally in Makati because that is where my work is. I have never been to Angeles but know my way around Burgos and quite a few girls there. Don't head over to Edsa Entertainment Complex often as I prefer Burgos and Burgos is closer to the holtel work puts me up in.
I'll be back in the country for about 5 days in a few weeks time but only the first day is for business the rest is for a bit of a break. My question is it worth going up to Angeles or should I just stay in Makati and drink and party?
What is the quality and quantity of girls in Angeles compared to Burgos? Is there anything better to in Angeles than Burgos. I already know that Angeles is cheaper but prices aside is there any other reason to go to Angeles than stay in Makati.
Angeles is mainly a strp full of go-go bars. Compared to Pattaya it is very small.
You can try it for a change. IMO it is better to feel sorry for something you did rather for something that you didn't.
Try to book a hotel with swimming pool because there isn't much to do during the day. A couple of days there should be enough.
You may return direct to HKG from there on Cebu Pacific Air so there is no need to go back via Manila. Or vise versa.
Just looking for some quick advice.
I generally spend all my time in Manila, generally in Makati because that is where my work is. I have never been to Angeles but know my way around Burgos and quite a few girls there. Don't head over to Edsa Entertainment Complex often as I prefer Burgos and Burgos is closer to the holtel work puts me up in.
The quality and the professionalism of the girls at EDSA are subpar with what you will find on Burgos. The only problem with Burgos is the 7000PHP or $148 price tab, Barfine and Tip (I have paid less in Dubai). What I mean by professionalism the girls on Burgos seem to be a bit more on the classier side (fresh pussies, no tats) and are always dressed elegantly even when they head home with you. Also they seem reserved but aim to please in the bedroom. Don’t know if these are the bar procedures or just individual taste. EDSA girls seem to down for anything when it comes to no “holes” barred (pun intended) sex.
I'll be back in the country for about 5 days in a few weeks time but only the first day is for business the rest is for a bit of a break. My question is it worth going up to Angeles or should I just stay in Makati and drink and party?
If you have never been to Angeles I would give it a look. It is the holy city of Filipina pussy. The first and last time I went I was not impressed. The only thing Angeles offers is rock bottom prices. Some guys say convenience but everything in Manila is a lack of aircon having taxi away.
What is the quality and quantity of girls in Angeles compared to Burgos? Is there anything better to in Angeles than Burgos. I already know that Angeles is cheaper but prices aside is there any other reason to go to Angeles than stay in Makati.
Looks:
Most of the girls in Angeles are from the Visayan area of the Philippines so they tend to be a little on the darker side and have a more native look.
A lot of the girls in Manila are locals and tend be on the lighter side with fuller bodies. I don’t know why but the light skin ones just do it for me.
Edge: Manila/Makati
Attitude:
This is the biggy if I am paying for a prostitute I want service and exceptional service. In Angeles I had girls playing around, wanting to watch TV behaving shyly etc complaining about size and other things basically acting as if they never turned a trick before. I found them to be a bit childish. They are sweet hearts though and if one wants the GFE then this is the place.
In Manila/Makati most of the girls know the score and got down the business with no prompting from me and my last few experiences in LA and Burgos have been nothing short of sensational. Side note Manila girls can be a bit more mercenary but I can care less about GFE if I want to to "play house" LOL.... I go home.
Edge: Manila/Makati
The Wrap Up:
If you have never been to Angeles it is worth a look due to the low cost of everything (food, drinks, pussy, hotels) and the overall party atmosphere but for me Manila/Makati and the overall amenities makes the four hour round trip just not worth it.
Irony Monger
09-23-09, 15:49
Recently split from my ex, and planning my cherry boy trip to the Philippines in Nov. Been to Japan for some modest mongering, mostly before marriage, and recently right after the split. My general experience in Japan is that repeat business pays off big time in terms of service. This is true of Japanese business in general, not just the sex industry. But is the same true of the Philippines? If I BF a girl for 2 or more days, is the service better than one day or short time?
Thanks for the G-rated photos Warbucks. Since you LIVE in Philippines, it's nice to see the real deal. X
Recently split from my ex, and planning my cherry boy trip to the Philippines in Nov. Been to Japan for some modest mongering, mostly before marriage, and recently right after the split. My general experience in Japan is that repeat business pays off big time in terms of service. This is true of Japanese business in general, not just the sex industry. But is the same true of the Philippines? If I BF a girl for 2 or more days, is the service better than one day or short time?IMHO it is all about how you get along with the girl in the bar. If you take a little time you should get a feel of how she will act in the room. If you pick the girl and she doesn't respond to you in the bar, she will not in the room. Make eye contact and if she smiles and you buy her a drink, you can feel her out. LA Cafe is different. A lot of times you will get a girl who is shy in the room and doesn't know what to expect.
TurdyCurdyOne
09-26-09, 01:03
I have read a post by one guy who used an electronic stub from some airline and a one way ticket to enter Phil. Has anyone here done this, does it work?
Or am I going to have to book a separate flight out of the country to get around the 21 day tourist limit? 21 days is not enough for me to decide if I want to retire there. Any useful replies most appreciated.
Thanks
White Whale
09-26-09, 07:15
I have read a post by one guy who used an electronic stub from some airline and a one way ticket to enter Phil. Has anyone here done this, does it work?
Or am I going to have to book a separate flight out of the country to get around the 21 day tourist limit? 21 days is not enough for me to decide if I want to retire there. Any useful replies most appreciated.
Thanks
There is a separate thread dealing your question "Philippine Residency and/or Permanent Visa "
You can have multiple extensions to your tourist Visa. The first one upto 59 days and then in two months periods:
http://www.immigration.gov.ph/
My personal experience:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=924149&highlight=extension#post924149
Not sure which part of Manila, but US news is showing people wading knee deep in water from the typhoon.
Hope every one is safe and dry.
Slim
Member #3428
09-27-09, 14:31
Not sure which part of Manila, but US news is showing people wading knee deep in water from the typhoon.
Hope every one is safe and dry.
Slim
I was delayed in Guam last night, Continental did not fly GUM MNL route so they put us up in a hotel which was nice of them, now in Dusit having sex with an 18 year old waiting for her friend to join us.
All is well for most parts; however my 30 year old mother of 6 can not get over here as she is stuck across the river. Hope she comes to complete our foursome tomorrow morning. In the mean time we are waiting a new girl to join our little Dusit Club :D
Haha been there. Dusit and that area is nice and high. Down near the water in Ermita, lots of flooding. I've been in taxis with water coming in the floor. Thats when you want to rent one of those tourist horse and carriages you see. They are about 3-4" off the ground.
Member #3428
09-27-09, 15:56
Dusit and that area is nice and high.
Yeah I know but one girl is stuck across the river so I am affected by it...
Atleast the planes are landing and taking off now...
Escort Fan
09-27-09, 17:23
I have read a post by one guy who used an electronic stub from some airline and a one way ticket to enter Phil. Has anyone here done this, does it work?
Or am I going to have to book a separate flight out of the country to get around the 21 day tourist limit? 21 days is not enough for me to decide if I want to retire there. Any useful replies most appreciated.
ThanksYou just need a ticket to show that you are going to leave the phils within 21 days, not necessarly a ticket back to your home. Just book a one way clark macau ou manila macau ticket, it should cost you about 1, 500 pesos if you book a cheap one.
You just need a ticket to show that you are going to leave the phils within 21 days, not necessarly a ticket back to your home.
An exit ticket from the Philippines, yes. But it doesn't need to be within 21 days. I have twice entered with an exit ticket for the 59th day and have had no problems with that (and obtaining an extension to the visa while there).
I am interested to know from anyone if it is possible to have a return ticket accepted for a Phils visiting period for longer than 2 months. Six months? One year?
It's been a decade, but I once used an "open" ticket which was valid for a year. In other words, I could arrange the return flight anytime within the one year validity of the ticket.
This doesn't exactly answer your question, but it's as close as I can get. X
An exit ticket from the Philippines, yes. But it doesn't need to be within 21 days. I have twice entered with an exit ticket for the 59th day and have had no problems with that (and obtaining an extension to the visa while there).
I am interested to know from anyone if it is possible to have a return ticket accepted for a Phils visiting period for longer than 2 months. Six months? One year?
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right?", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved...
Need counseling...or maybe just hire a car and driver..
The Rooster1
09-29-09, 01:14
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right?", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved...
Need counseling...or maybe just hire a car and driver..Jambo,
I feel your pain. I have had several incidents as well, most ending with me stopping, getting out and finding another taxi. This happens right when I get in the taxi. I don't shut the door and start moving until the meter is turned on or I agree on a price before leaving. I learned early on in my PI experience that you need to be stern and don't fall to the scam, which was taught to me by local foreigners and local filipina's both.
But after a while, sometimes I just don't care or need the fight over $1 USA Dollar. I know its the principle, but it's worth my extra dollar they charge me to walk into my next destination with a smile rather than pissed off with it on my mind. Just my opinion.
My advice, drink a beer, look over at the beautiful Pinay sitting next to you and take a deep breath. And say WTF? It would cost me $50 you. S in the states for this $3 dollar ride in the PI.
Peace out!
Chocha Monger
09-29-09, 04:07
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right?", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved...
Need counseling...or maybe just hire a car and driver..
Just hire a car and driver. If the taxi driver decides to break the initial agreement en route there is nothing more you can do except politely tell him to stop and pay whatever is on the meter like you did. Remaining in the taxi and agreeing to be ripped off is not an option. The other option is to negotiate a flat fee from point A to point B off the meter before getting in. Wherever you go you'll always encounter slick cab drivers even here in the US.
FreebieFan
09-29-09, 05:47
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right?", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved...
Need counseling...or maybe just hire a car and driver..Talk to them in Filipino. Use such phrases as " Bakit walang metro " means why no meter. " Hindi turista ako (I'm not a tourist) They may not think you are such a tourist. Can also say "Pare, paki hina-an radyo mo " Please turn down your radio. Otherwise accept they are out to screw you as you are white. But somehow it doesn't happen often to me, maybe as I speak to them a bit in my broken Filipino.
Key Master
09-29-09, 11:16
Jambo,
I feel your pain. I have had several incidents as well, most ending with me stopping, getting out and finding another taxi. This happens right when I get in the taxi. I don't shut the door and start moving until the meter is turned on or I agree on a price before leaving. I learned early on in my PI experience that you need to be stern and don't fall to the scam, which was taught to me by local foreigners and local filipina's both.
But after a while, sometimes I just don't care or need the fight over $1 USA Dollar. I know its the principle, but it's worth my extra dollar they charge me to walk into my next destination with a smile rather than pissed off with it on my mind. Just my opinion.
My advice, drink a beer, look over at the beautiful Pinay sitting next to you and take a deep breath. And say WTF? It would cost me $50 you. S in the states for this $3 dollar ride in the PI.
Peace out!
I agree with you Rooster, especially late at night. For some nominal fee on a taxi ride, I'm not going to trip. My main thing is for the taxi drivers in regards to going to the airport. This whole airport thing is kind of crap. Great they have these new yellow taxis that supposedly use this meter that is hard to read when they're driving as it's kind of some funky numbers and bam when you get there they hit a button and there's the amount. I have actually had some bullshit in regards to them lately. These yellow airport taxis only take people from the airport when they collect fares and they drive 24 hour shifts. It's kind of crap to me.
And then you have to get a cab to the airport which the regular taxi meters don't really want to do because if they can't get someone savvy enough to go the departures level to catch them, they aren't allowed to get a ride out of there and probably have to go far away from there to look for a customer. To me, it's worth it to give them a little more than the meter here. It's too bad they don't do away with the yellow airport taxis and just allow metered taxis both ways and that's assuming the metered taxis play fair. Threatening to bring back the metered cabs may do it, but it's been going on for a long time them not being able to take out arriving passengers.
It's funny that some of us will trip out over 20-40 pesos more than the meter or a little bit more. Check out the crap in Angeles on what you pay for some short ass ride over there in a damn trike. It's not even close to what you get for a metered taxi in Manila. Look at what people pay to get picked up at Clark Airport to a hotel in Angeles. 350 pesos or so? Shit, a metered taxi for those rides in Manila is probably an average around 50 pesos. I took a metered taxi from Malate to Makati the other night, and it cost me 80 pesos. Normally on the way back it's over 100 pesos. I don't like getting ripped off, but for some reason, I don't think paying slightly over the meter rates going to kill me or is worth getting all heated up about personally. Got to stay cool especially outside of your own country.
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter.Stop worrying about the meters.. its small change to us. Im in Manila often, just do what I and all the locals do, stick your head in the cab, ask if he will take you to [insert destination]. If the answer is yes, ask 'how much?". If the price is within a reasonable range smile say "ok" & get in, if not say "no thanks" & close the door. Now was that so hard? The majority of cab drivers are ok dudes if you chum up to them especially if you are with a local.
AV
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right?", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved...
Need counseling...or maybe just hire a car and driver..Since I have been living here for close to two years, I find that I am slowly losing my mind with all the bullshit:( From taxis that seems to pray on anyone (locals also) and waiting in line for service. I was in Globe's office in Mall of Asia to check on my roaming for my cell (wouldn't turn on) and I arrived at 10:05, they opened at 10:00. I was already number 4 in line and two were being helped. The air conditioner was broke, it was hotter then shit and I sat there 45 minutes and they were still with the same customers. By this time there was 25 customers waiting and everyone was sweating and no one but me asked what is the problem. As soon as I said something, they started calling numbers. I think that Filipinos are used to waiting, Jeepney's that don't move until they fill up, waiting for taxis/buses on the roadside, so they accept waiting and scamming as normal:(
Robb
GoodEnough
09-29-09, 23:33
During my first couple of years here, the general incompetence and mindlessness of the "systems" and practices that characterize most transactions here totally stressed me out, and I would often flip at the absurdity of it all and because of the inordinate amounts of time it would cause me to waste. I still do it occasionally, but I'm better at just accepting it now. I guess the balance is different for everyone, but for me, the upside of living here still outweighs the downside and I'm more able to go with the flow. I'm also getting far better at avoiding these circumstances. For example, I'll use my driver to go pay my cell phone bills, the water bill and the electric bill, thus avoiding having to wait in line.
If you let all the crap associated with living here get to you on a consistent basis, you're going to spend lots of time being angry, and it's a pointless anger since you're not going to change anything. In my case, I've learned to cope somewhat better than I did at first.
GE
it's a pointless anger since you're not going to change anything.Good advice GE. Perhaps I will arm myself with a Maitai before every cab ride.
Here's a couple of other taxi stories.
- Me and my Navy shipmates are coming off a night of shore leave at Texas Street in Pusan, Korea. There's a bunch of taxi's waiting there to snag us. We get in the first one, start out. I notice the meter is off (and every taxi we used in the daytime was on the meter no questions asked). I know whats up so I reach up and flip the meter on myself! Don't [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a ROK! I'm glad I don't speak Korean. He turns around and takes us back to Texas St. Weeelll, we walk out to the back of the line, and easily find a driver willing to take us on the meter. Maybe later his buds beat him up, I dunno.
- Onlongapo PI. Coming back to the boat from shore leave again. I get on a jeepney. I forget to get off. Jeepny stops at the end of his line (And seems like he's done for the day). We are like at the outer edge of the town. He drives me back to the river. Nice guy.
Fast Eddie 48
09-30-09, 00:40
Seems every time I go to the PI, I get in an argument with one or more Taxi drivers over the fare and use of the meter. Now I do believe I understand when "off the meter" is unavoidable. What gets me in a fighting mood is when I ask the driver, before we get in, "on the meter, right? ", he says yes, and then maybe a block away, starts in with something like (fill in rediculous amount here).
This last one, we were returning to Makati from Ermita area, going with the traffic, and at about 4pm. I tell him to stop, I give him whats showing on the meter, and then the jerk proceeds to spend the next 15-20 minutes stalking us with his car, and trying to enlist the help of locals on the corners. It took way to long to get another car.
Meanwhile, I look like someone out of control to my girl, and any onlookers. I've nearly come to blows with drivers before. And this is in daylight, no drinking involved.
Need counseling. Or maybe just hire a car and driver.To Jambo
You need to relax a bit you are on vacation, most cab driver are nice guy afew bad apple, they just trying yo make a living in a tough world, if I get into a cab get a quote in reason just let it go why fight for just a few peso, taxi in Manila is one of the cheapest in Asia anyway look at it as a tip.
Fast Eddie 48
Member #4167
09-30-09, 00:43
It's funny that some of us will trip out over 20-40 pesos more than the meter or a little bit more. Some people will pay $100/night (5000 PHP) for a luxury suite and then 5000 PHP for a piece of pinay ass, and then complain over being overcharged 20-40 Pesos for a cab ride.
Penny wise and pound foolish.
Southbound69
09-30-09, 01:29
Just hire a car and driver. If the taxi driver decides to break the initial agreement en route there is nothing more you can do except politely tell him to stop and pay whatever is on the meter like you did. Remaining in the taxi and agreeing to be ripped off is not an option. The other option is to negotiate a flat fee from point A to point B off the meter before getting in. Wherever you go you'll always encounter slick cab drivers even here in the US.
You can also threaten to call PNP (philippine national police) if they pull some BS on you. It has worked for me more than a couple of times.
Since I have been living here for close to two years, I find that I am slowly losing my mind with all the bullshit:( From taxis that seems to pray on anyone (locals also) and waiting in line for service.Rejoice in the reasons why you chose this place to live & ignore the other stuff.. life is too short Rob..
I was in Globe's office in Mall of Asia to check on my roaming for my cell (wouldn't turn on) and I arrived at 10:05, they opened at 10:00. I was already number 4 in line and two were being helped. The air conditioner was broke, it was hotter then shit and I sat there 45 minutes and they were still with the same customers. RobbYes Globe offices suck everywhere I have had the misfortune to enter them. By comparison SMART seems to have their shit slightly better together in their offices.. YMMV. My way of coping with an occasional sojorn in a queue? Switch on my monger radar & survey the masses for a pretty girl to smile at... drift off into fantasy about what im doing to her or will do to her when i soon get her cell number.. ;)
Whenever possible delegate small jobs like bill paying etc. Flips (sorry Xman, _Pinoys_) love to do stuff like that for you. Saves you from ever having to stand around in hot crowded offices.
Cheers mate..
AV
Wicked Roger
09-30-09, 05:36
Yes Globe offices suck everywhere I have had the misfortune to enter them. By comparison SMART seems to have their shit slightly better together in their offices.. YMMV. My way of coping with an occasional sojorn in a queue? Switch on my monger radar & survey the masses for a pretty girl to smile at... drift off into fantasy about what im doing to her or will do to her when i soon get her cell number.. ;)
Cheers mate..
AV
The Globe office in SM Mall by Glorietta is a good place, been there many times Amavida, was there earlier this week to make my number roaming. Maybe because it is on the 4th floor and few know about it I always seems to be able to have quick service there.
What is the legal age of consent or legal fukking age?
Am arriving in 3 weeks and my wingman says its 16 and I, m saying 18.
I myself would not want a 16 yr old due to lack of experience and huge generationssss gap. Also I don't want to see inside of a Phills jail thank you. Nor do I want to bail out my wingman. But I have a couple 18 yr old 80 lb'ers from DIA that I, m meetin up with. Would it be wise to ask to see ID and check to make sure as they sure look young.
Me, I want a 20-30 yr old Mulatto who can squirt and she will find vandaddio gives good wallet when happy.
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Hi Vandaddio,
The Age of Consent is irrelevant to the situation you've described.
What you need to know is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution.
Thanks,
Jackson
Agreed about the taxi charges. In 3 months of travel last year, with an average or 4 rides a day, I was only worked over twice. Both times in Manila for under a couple of bucks each.
I had to use a taxi last year here in the US, cost me $28 for 13 mile trip
FreebieFan
09-30-09, 06:52
Since I have been living here for close to two years, I find that I am slowly losing my mind with all the bullshitto pray on anyone and waiting in line for service. I was in Globe's office in Mall of Asia to check on my roaming for my cell (wouldn't turn on) and I arrived at 10:05, they opened at 10:00. I was already number 4 in line and two were being helped. The air conditioner was broke, it was hotter then shit and I sat there 45 minutes and they were still with the same customers. By this time there was 25 customers waiting and everyone was sweating and no one but me asked what is the problem. As soon as I said something, they started calling numbers. I think that Filipinos are used to waiting, Jeepney's that don't move until they fill up, waiting for taxis/buses on the roadside, so they accept waiting and scamming as normal:(
RobbI was in the Immigration line this week departing NAIA.
There were 8 people in front of me, all Filipino, all OFW's (yes I'm experienced enough to know I should never do THAT, but the one directly in front of me was very pretty. And I was trying).
Meanwhile the one at the counter was getting the third degree from a very slow Immigration officer. She clearly wanted every bit of paper the poor girl ever had. I was tired, irritated from much too much SMB, too much sex and too little sleep. So I aasked for the supervisor. He came running and I said why is it that we payP 750 for " airport development" when clearly the need was for Immigration training and development.
Stated we had all been waiting for 30 minutes and were all left with a very poor last impression of his country.
2 minutes later, 2 lines opened up next to ours.2 of the Filipinos thanked me and said if they had complained no one would have done anything.
The Globe office in SM Mall by Glorietta is a good place, been there many times Amavida, was there earlier this week to make my number roaming. Maybe because it is on the 4th floor and few know about it I always seems to be able to have quick service there.Thx mate, I always get lost there looking for those offices Roge. My dentist is up there... somewhere... I want her to do a little work on me again soon... hehehe ;)
AV
Taxis suck in Manila and everytime you tell them to turn on their meter they give some poor excuse and say flat rate is cheaper. So one run my friend pulls out his camera and takes a picture of the drivers taxi permit and the taxi driver and tells him he will report him to the police, he was accomading after that. Just tell them I know it is the law to use the meter, most will comply when you tell them that.
Island son
Counting the days til November whe will be back in the Philippines, where to go this time is the question, so many women so little time.
Since I have been living here for close to two years, I find that I am slowly losing my mind with all the bullshit:( From taxis that seems to pray on anyone (locals also) and waiting in line for service. I was in Globe's office in Mall of Asia to check on my roaming for my cell (wouldn't turn on) and I arrived at 10:05, they opened at 10:00. I was already number 4 in line and two were being helped. The air conditioner was broke, it was hotter then shit and I sat there 45 minutes and they were still with the same customers. By this time there was 25 customers waiting and everyone was sweating and no one but me asked what is the problem. As soon as I said something, they started calling numbers. I think that Filipinos are used to waiting, Jeepney's that don't move until they fill up, waiting for taxis/buses on the roadside, so they accept waiting and scamming as normal:(
Robb
Robb! You used to be so much more relaxed in Korea! Is too much young pussy making you have a melt-down? :) Relax! Have a beer on me. Put it on my tab and I'll pay for it when I get there.
Yella Man
c'mon ym, he doesn't need a beer. he needs a taser. a good jolt of taser won't speed up the transportation system, nor create better service at the globe or cebu pacific offices.
but damn, it feels good to give a good dose of electricity to people who have the duh gene.
x
robb! you used to be so much more relaxed in korea! is too much young pussy making you have a melt-down? :) relax! have a beer on me. put it on my tab and i'll pay for it when i get there.
yella man
most cab driver are nice guy a few bad apple, they just trying yo make a living in a tough world, if I get into a cab get a quote in reason just let it go why fight for just a few peso, taxi in Manila is one of the cheapest in Asia anyway look at it as a tip.
Why not go along? They will do it again and again, with the next foreigner. They'll ask for 2000p for a trip that should cost maybe 450. You'll be in there haggling with a guy while he's driving, you more likely you'll loose since he has you captive, and really, you want to be talking to your girl and acting cool, not dealing with a cheat.
I mean, how would you feel if you went to a barber, and they have a published rate of 500p. You sit down, and half way through he starts in "you pay 2000p ok? 2000 pesos.. Mister.. you pay 2000 pesos.... "
Do the girls demand more money 1/2 though your shag? No, the taxi thing is a special, and potentially dangerous case, and should be dealt with.
The cheat thinks, when he sees a foreigner, "there's a mark". I want him to think, "I better respect foreigners".
Robb! You used to be so much more relaxed in Korea! Is too much young pussy making you have a melt-down? :) Relax! Have a beer on me. Put it on my tab and I'll pay for it when I get there.
Yella ManHahahaha! I always start relaxed, but I am telling you YM, live here for a straight year and deal with it every day after day, and you will see what I am talking about.
My first arrival into Terminal 3 on Cebu Pacific...our flight was delayed three hours:( and when we arrived in Manila (9:30 pm) we were the only arriving domestic flight. I picked up my one check bag and went to exit the airport to grab a taxi and the security guard at the exit, who I thought was going to check my baggage tag like at Terminal 2, checked my tag and then told me that there was a 300p arrival tax due. I put my hand on his shoulder and looked him straight in the eyes and told him real sweet like, "Kuya, I am not a tourist, I LIVE HERE!" and he says ok, sorry.
Key Master
09-30-09, 22:37
Why not go along? They will do it again and again, with the next foreigner. They'll ask for 2000p for a trip that should cost maybe 450. You'll be in there haggling with a guy while he's driving, you more likely you'll loose since he has you captive, and really, you want to be talking to your girl and acting cool, not dealing with a cheat.
I mean, how would you feel if you went to a barber, and they have a published rate of 500p. You sit down, and half way through he starts in "you pay 2000p ok? 2000 pesos.. Mister.. you pay 2000 pesos.... "
Do the girls demand more money 1/2 though your shag? No, the taxi thing is a special, and potentially dangerous case, and should be dealt with.
The cheat thinks, when he sees a foreigner, "there's a mark". I want him to think, "I better respect foreigners".
I know no one wants to pay more, but these people rip their own people off. Personally for me, the taxi rides are dirt cheap compared to the distances you get out of the meter. I rarely have an issue with regular metered taxis here. You want them to respect foreigners? Good luck. These people don't have anything to loose and you want them to respect you. What are you going to do? Your comparison of 500 pesos price to 2000 pesos is not really a reasonable projection of what them might ask for. I'm not going to dick around trying to gain respect in any means over 20-40 pesos. It's not worth it. I'm not going to stress that when I'm paying 4 times or more for the price of a beer in a bar.
FreebieFan
10-01-09, 02:14
Island son
Counting the days til November whe will be back in the Philippines, where to go this time is the question, so many women so little time.Read my recent report in Manila section. Theres never enough time and I always end up shag tired. Took 4 seats on plane home and slept all the way. Manila is so tiring when always hunting.
Chocha Monger
10-01-09, 03:35
I mean, how would you feel if you went to a barber, and they have a published rate of 500p. You sit down, and half way through he starts in "you pay 2000p ok? 2000 pesos.. Mister.. you pay 2000 pesos.... "
Do the girls demand more money 1/2 though your shag?
Actually, if you look at the USA Sex Guide you will see that this is pretty much standard behavior for American hookers. They'll up sell and re-negotiate during the entire session. They'll even go far as to threaten to not let you finish if you don't pay more. Want BJ? That will cost you more? Want another position besides missionary? That will cost more Mister.
I'm after some wisdom here. I'm about to venture into uncharted waters, a trip to Cebu for a week. I've followed some good guidance from various threads here, but one critical tip is missing.
Best ways to dump a Flipper?
A bit of background
I never give out my real name, mobile number, hotel info, etc. Don't want a stalker tailing me for days. My preference for the week is a good combination of single lady hook up. Maybe a second if I tire of the first one. I'm not in the mood for the club P4P scene this trip. Having enough of that last month in Thailand. A nice lady for several days would be great.
So. Following the advice posted on many forums here. I got myself onto DIA. Not at all finding a ton of ladies really wanting to meet me during my visit. I have sorted the pile into two basic categories.
Category A. They will show up to meet me with their cousin, their auntie and one brother. Want to take me to their family home where I eat, make small talk, sleep alone. Meanwhile the lady of interest is off forming names for our future children. Ok. So. Not this category. Not this trip
Category B. They will meet you alone. They will meet you with intent to spend the night with you, perhaps more. Open to going to a resort or some place nice. They might very well want a whole lot more than a week of company. But that's not my problem. I will treat her nice, show her a good time too.
The question gents is how to gracefully dump a category B lady? As I see it. It's a huge gamble to put all your eggs into one lady. It makes sense to have 2, 3, 4 stacked up as alternatives in the event your lady B turns out to be a dog, a 29YO virgin, or comes packing the whole family with a wedding band in the background.
What's your exit strategy?
I've intentionally planned to move hotels at least once during my stay as one exit route. Any other ideas?
An interesting side bar. I'm just amazed how many 18-19 YO ladies are really interested in meeting an old guy like me. I was IMing one. Turned out to be 16. Yikes. I gave her a stern. Don't you even think about it lecture. What the hell are these girls thinking? I will not cross that line.
My target is 22-24 with at least some previous experience. No kids (never disappoint a mother).
Your advice is greatly appreciated.
FreebieFan
10-01-09, 08:27
Actually, if you look at the USA Sex Guide you will see that this is pretty much standard behavior for American hookers. They'll up sell and re-negotiate during the entire session. They'll even go far as to threaten to not let you finish if you don't pay more. Want BJ? That will cost you more? Want another position besides missionary? That will cost more Mister.Maybe its not coincidental then that its US airlines that also started charging for normal features as add ones. Want a window seat, thats extra, want to check baggage in, thats extra too. Want pillow, please pay up.
c'mon ym, he doesn't need a beer. he needs a taser. a good jolt of taser won't speed up the transportation system, nor create better service at the globe or cebu pacific offices.
but damn, it feels good to give a good dose of electricity to people who have the duh gene.
x
isn't that the truth! not once has my plane been on time on regional flights with cebu pacific. it's always fun to see other westerners having melt-downs over the delays while i'm waiting on my flight. i, on the other hand, would probably shit a gold brick if my flight actually arrived on time.
yella man
MongerManiac
10-01-09, 14:58
I'm a fan of girls who squirt - whats the experience of finding them in the philippines. I have been to Manila and Cebu a couple of times, and i'm yet to find a real squirter of the soaking mattress type.
Any advice guys?
Wicked Roger
10-01-09, 17:11
Thx mate, I always get lost there looking for those offices Roge. My dentist is up there... somewhere... I want her to do a little work on me again soon... hehehe ;)
AV
Av ...lost ...must becuase your eyes are elsewhere and you head is spinning :D
Take the elevators by the exit that leads to the Dusit (not the one to Glorietta) and go to the top and bingo, there is it on the left (or virually in front of you). Always great service for me, got my local number into a roamer in 3 minutes
But you must be focused AV on the target and I dont mean all the pussy walking around (well this time) :D
how to gracefully dump a category B lady? What's your exit strategy?
What I used to do, I tell them I am in town on business (works best for Cebu and Manila). But if you are in the provinces, tell them you are into rice/sugar cane/bat guano/tourism. Sorry I can't meet you tonight baby, got meetings with the client. Tell you what, I'll txt you just as soon as we are done. Honest.
Whats cool about this ploy is you got the option for a return thing. "Hey I got no meetings tonight, can we hook up?" I managed 3 girls in a week this way in Manila. One was hip and ok with what I was doing, the other two did not know.
Seems you are already hip to the hotel swap thing.
Chocha Monger
10-01-09, 23:30
Maybe its not coincidental then that its US airlines that also started charging for normal features as add ones. Want a window seat, thats extra, want to check baggage in, thats extra too. Want pillow, please pay up.
FreebieFan:
No shit. It seems like the airlines, car rental companies, hotels, credit card companies, banks and just about every other American business is in on the scam. We can hardly blame the Filipino taxi drivers for developing a little savvy when it comes to good old Yankee capitalism. They finally learned the number one rule of negotiating. Always negotiate from a position of strength.
When you're hammering away doggy style at a hot little Filipina's brown box and she says, "Mister you fuck too hard! You pay me more. Okay?" about 30 seconds before you blow your load what are you going to do? Get mad? Lose your stroke perhaps? Most guys would just holler, "Ye...Ye...YES!!!" between strokes.
FreebieFan
10-02-09, 00:48
Category A. They will show up to meet me with their cousin, their auntie and one brother. Want to take me to their family home where I eat, make small talk, sleep alone. Meanwhile the lady of interest is off forming names for our future children.
Your advice is greatly appreciated.Your post reminded me of one lady whos name and face I have totally forgotten, ., but I do recal we had some minumum chat on DIA or Friendster wherever. Met her in a mall, steered her to my car, then drove to Sogo. Had a bonk then dropped her off.
Later that day I get an sms. " would I like to go to Church tomorrow" with her and her Mum"
That was followed by another sms " when can we fucks (sic) again.!"
What is the legal age of consent or legal fukking age?
Am arriving in 3 weeks and my wingman says its 16 and I, m saying 18.
I myself would not want a 16 yr old due to lack of experience and huge generationssss gap. Also I don't want to see inside of a Phills jail thank you. Nor do I want to bail out my wingman. But I have a couple 18 yr old 80 lb'ers from DIA that I, m meetin up with. Would it be wise to ask to see ID and check to make sure as they sure look young.
Me, I want a 20-30 yr old Mulatto who can squirt and she will find vandaddio gives good wallet when happy.
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Hi Vandaddio,
The Age of Consent is irrelevant to the situation you've described.
What you need to know is the Age of Majority, which among other things is the age in which they can vote, get married, enlist in the military, and participate in commercial sex activities.
Please exercise caution.
Thanks,
JacksonOkay, What is the age of majority?
I am using caution and that is the reason for my post.
We are unable to find the real legal facts.
I thought it would be easy to find that out on here but it does not seem so.
Age of consent to fuk may be different than age to work in commercial sex?
I'm guessing it is 18 but I do not want to guess.
Come on boys, someone must know the answer?
okay, what is the age of majority?
i am using caution and that is the reason for my post.
we are unable to find the real legal facts.
i thought it would be easy to find that out on here but it does not seem so.
age of consent to fuk may be different than age to work in commercial sex?
i'm guessing it is 18 but i do not want to guess.
come on boys, someone must know the answer?i am guessing it is 18, because i know a few girls who got caught lying about their age (18) working in ac and were fired....who would want to put themselves in a possible position to be questioned. if you check other websites, newsletters (harry the horse), there have been many cases of guys being setup with **** girls.
ihmo, no one should be talking with a 16 year old.
Member #3428
10-02-09, 22:45
i am guessing it is 18, because i know a few girls who got caught lying about their age (18) working in ac and were fired....who would want to put themselves in a possible position to be questioned. if you check other websites, newsletters (harry the horse), there have been many cases of guys being setup with **** girls.
ihmo, no one should be talking with a 16 year old.
you are getting into grey areas here. to work a bar you gotta be 18.
from what i am told, age of consent is 12 years old. any sex with anyone under the age of 12 is forcible [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). sex with someone over 12 under 18 is ok as long as the age difference between them is under 10 years. now this usually only applies to locals. such the reason many girls who work bars have had kids when they are 14 / 15 / 16 years old.
however there are other laws regarding women who work in prostitution, forced or unforced, for money or gifts, etc... so this is where foreigners get caught up.
basically if you are a foreigner and you are caught with someone under 18 you are screwed (and you should be). where it gets a little dicey is when you have an ex pat living there, who is young(er), and has sexual relations with girls close to his age.
for us mongers who are usually older then 25 / 30 etc... there is really no way anyone can give me any rational why we should be with someone under 18.
i am definitely not advocating **** sex and we should be in trouble if we are with **** girls. however it is getting a little scary at times, the girls are looking older, their bodies more mature, at much younger ages it seems. i was recently with a girl i thought was older and she turned out to be just 18.
edit: philippines is famous for having multiple laws. there is also a law that states all if a person is trafficked in prostitution then there is no age of consent as they are all considered children even if they are 50 years old. so the police can bust you for any damn reason.
all from info given to me by work so it could be wrong but usually work is pretty good about keeping us up to date on legalities in foreign countries we work in.
The Rooster1
10-02-09, 22:48
vand,
keep it 18 and everything will be fine. honestly, you don't want to start messing with anyone under that age even with consent. different story in the province where it is a practice amongst the locals, but us foreigners better keep to the 18 mark. even with consent from the parents.
lets just say in the city i hang in that a mamason is still sitting in jail for bringing **** girls into her bar from the province. you want to gamble, you will be watching her leave after her spending 6 mos time and you will get another 6 mos unless your ready to fork out some retirement funds.
just my opinion and as the saying goes "it's up to you!"
peace out!
For all of you who have any questions about age of consent you can refer to this website: http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm
It has the age of consent for every country as well as making certain exceptions. It is interesting to note that even here in the US there are many more states with 16 and 17 as the age of consent, so it it incredibly hypocritical of the US government to try to prosecute a US citizen abroad who consorts "legally" with a girl under 18. For example in Ecuador and Colombia the legal age of consent is 14, but you had better be pretty damned discreet or have good relations with the girl's parents.
For security, when in doubt always check to make sure the girl is 18, just to avoid any confusion which only risks penalties or bribes. It also helps to speak the language, so that you can ask a third party who may know more intimate details than you, even though I have known family members to lie in order to have a gringo supporting the family.
Member #3428
10-02-09, 22:55
what is the legal age of consent or legal fukking age?
am arriving in 3 weeks and my wingman says its 16 and i, m saying 18.
i myself would not want a 16 yr old due to lack of experience and huge generationssss gap. also i don't want to see inside of a phills jail thank you. nor do i want to bail out my wingman. but i have a couple 18 yr old 80 lb'ers from dia that i, m meetin up with. would it be wise to ask to see id and check to make sure as they sure look young.
watch this mate... many dia girls claim to be 18 and are not. 1) they might hit you up for extra cash or threaten to report you to police 2) they might be **** looking for cash and if you get caught then you are really screwed as she'll cry to the police you forced her (to save her own arse) etc....
do yourself a favor and stay away from these girls and tell your wing man to look for girls who say they are 25 as they really could be only 20 :d
If you are a US or UK citizen, you are subject to their laws on mongering, even if you are in a foreign country. So its 18yo for US and Uk citizens, even if its younger in the local country.
For example I believe the age is 16yo in Australia but I could be wrong.
Member #3428
10-03-09, 00:05
if you are a us or uk citizen, you are subject to their laws on mongering, even if you are in a foreign country. so its 18yo for us and uk citizens, even if its younger in the local country.
for example i believe the age is 16yo in australia but i could be wrong.
i'm not us but you sure about that? i have various reports about this.
clinton signed the crime against humanity act in what 1994?? i know it was widely reported by the press that anyone having sex with someone under 18 you could go to jail for 10 years. but the law was challenged and looked at more closely and i think it really states that us citizens travelling abroad can be fined or imprisoned if and only if they travel to another country and engage in sexual act that is illegal in the usa (such as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or such). section 2423 transportation of minors, and it points that the laws must violate chapter 109a.
(a) of a minor. - whoever crosses a state line with intent to engage in a sexual act with a person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the united states or in a federal prison, knowingly engages in a sexual act with another person who -
(1) has attained the age of 12 years but has not attained the age of 16 years; and
(2) is at least four years younger than the person so engaging; or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both.
so for example... sex with someone under 12 illegal. sex with someone from 12 to 16 and you are less then four years older then legal if local laws permit it. sex with someone 12 to 16 and you are more then 4 years older then illegal. sex with someone over 16 is legal if local laws permit it.
so if someone happened to take a girl home and she said she was 18 but turned out to be 17 then the us could not do anything to you but the various local laws in philippines could nail your arse.
again, personally i feel that anyone who goes below 18 should have his nuts chopped. i'm just trying to clarify the laws as i got a little nervous recently as the girl during the typhoon turned out to be only 18.
Yeeeeah I dunno about that law. That the problem. You are suppose to know, but its not like the read the current version to you as you depart. Whats bad is you do it with a girl, and then she tells you she's 17yo! Not that its ever happened to me!
ThatGuy865
10-03-09, 01:46
i'm not us but you sure about that? i have various reports about this.
clinton signed the crime against humanity act in what 1994? i know it was widely reported by the press that anyone having sex with someone under 18 you could go to jail for 10 years. but the law was challenged and looked at more closely and i think it really states that us citizens travelling abroad can be fined or imprisoned if and only if they travel to another country and engage in sexual act that is illegal in the usa (such as [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) or such). section 2423 transportation of minors, and it points that the laws must violate chapter 109a.
(a) of a minor.. whoever crosses a state line with intent to engage in a sexual act with a person who has not attained the age of 12 years, or, in the special maritime and territorial jurisdiction of the united states or in a federal prison, knowingly engages in a sexual act with another person who.
(1) has attained the age of 12 years but has not attained the age of 16 years; and
(2) is at least four years younger than the person so engaging; or attempts to do so, shall be fined under this title, imprisoned not more than 15 years, or both.
so for example. sex with someone under 12 illegal. sex with someone from 12 to 16 and you are less then four years older then legal if local laws permit it. sex with someone 12 to 16 and you are more then 4 years older then illegal. sex with someone over 16 is legal if local laws permit it.
so if someone happened to take a girl home and she said she was 18 but turned out to be 17 then the us could not do anything to you but the various local laws in philippines could nail your arse.
again, personally i feel that anyone who goes below 18 should have his nuts chopped. i'm just trying to clarify the laws as i got a little nervous recently as the girl during the typhoon turned out to be only 18.the flaw in your explaination is that when it comes to international the age is 18. since that is the federal guide line age. if you were in a us the federal government would then respect the states law but outside the country you are subject to the federal guidelines.
the us can have you extradited for **** sex especially if you are reported by the host country. its not based on the country you are visiting.
Member #3428
10-03-09, 01:59
whats bad is you do it with a girl, and then she tells you she's 17yo!
the bad thing is that some of the **** girls are really looking and acting like they are of age...
So if someone happened to take a girl home and she said she was 18 but turned out to be 17 then the US could not do anything to you but the various local laws in Philippines could nail your arse.
Again, personally I feel that anyone who goes below 18 should have his nuts chopped. I'm just trying to clarify the laws as I got a little nervous recently as the girl during the typhoon turned out to be only 18.
UK, US, Canada, and I suppose the rest of the EU, is on this one. Regardless of the age of consent in any other country, any relations with a woman under 18 is illegal and subject to prosecution in those home countries,
Member #3428
10-03-09, 03:01
UK, US, Canada, and I suppose the rest of the EU, is on this one. Regardless of the age of consent in any other country, any relations with a woman under 18 is illegal and subject to prosecution in those home countries,
Conflicting reports... I asked my work for clarification on US laws (as I have to transit US often) and got this.... PROTECT act of 2003 updated the Sex Tourism Prohibition Improvement Act of 2002
"For the purposes of this law, illicit sexual conduct includes commercial sex with anyone under 18, and non-commercial sex with persons under 16 when there is at least a four-year age difference or the person is under 12 years of age."
If you end up in bed with a girl who told you she was 18 and she turned out to be under that then you are still OK if you do not pay her. However I was warned that a simple act of buying her a dress or such could be seen as payment in kind, however buying a dinner would not be viewed as payment for services.
Either way you are still screwed in the country you are in at the time.
Last Saturday, September 26, when I returned from AC, I had to pass through MNL Nino Aquino Airport to get on my flight to Hong Kong. But my pleasure journey to the Philippines ended up in an adventure trip. On the way to the airport, we already had heavy rain, starting in the Manila suburbs. The roads were partially flooded up to one foot deep. Then, at the airport, we had to wait for six hours, only to learn that our flights were canceled due to a typhoon. During the waiting, for about three hours, Nino Aquino Airport was without electricity, due to flooded electrical installations.
When it became clear that we had to stay another day, the Airline (CX) was kind enough to book hotel rooms for us in the city. Actually, up to my knowledge they are not obliged to do so, if the reason for cancellation is beyond their control and due to "Force Majeure".
At 7PM - nine hours after arriving at the airport - we could finally board the minivan that should bring us to the hotel in Makati. But what followed was another nine hours squeezed in the minivan. We could not get through to the hotel due to other broken down vehicles and totally congested roads. So, our driver tried about a dozen approaches to get through to the hotel. We drove through countless streets, small and very narrow ones, with no light - but a lot of water. In some parts, the water was up to about 2.5 feet deep, and our car got several times almost stuck. Once, we were completely stuck. Had there not been two or three filipino boys who pushed us out of the desperation, we would have had to leave the car, carry our luggage and walk through the floods - but where? So, all in all, we were very lucky. After about three ours of driving through deep waters, we got on a larger road with less water - but only to get now totally stuck in a gigantic traffic congestion. Cars, trucks, and buses were broken down and blocked a major part of the road, so that the still operating vehicles could almost not pass.
Every 10 minutes we could advance a few yards in a stop-and go-operation. Altogether, it took us another six hours to escape the congestion. Finally, we arrived at the hotel, where we checked in at 4AM. But most of us had to get up already within one or two hours again (I was lucky and had four hours of strongly needed sleep).
In the morning, we were brought back to the airport. Now, the return from the hotel took us only 25 minutes, instead of the nine hours to the hotel yesterday night. But the airport was in an incredible chaos. MNL airport is anyway deeply chaotic and unorganized already under normal circumstances. But on this day, this chaos was power three. Again, with some luck and thanks to the ever friendly help of the CX ground staff (big compliment!), I managed to get again through check-in, immigration, security check, and on board. CX had flewn in 3 aircrafts B747 from other routes, in order to collect the double number of passengers than usual. I finally got on the first flight, and when on board, I felt happy to have escaped such a calamity without major damage.
I feel sorry for the poor people in the Philippines, Manila and the other affected provinces. They still suffer a lot, while I am back home, able to write this report and send it through an unaffected Internet line, from a dry place.
During the nighttime odyssey through Manila, I took a few pictures, which I attach to give you an impression of what the residents there had and have to suffer.
Wonderer
Here a few more pics...
Wonderer
White Whale
10-03-09, 07:32
You are getting into grey areas here. To work a bar you gotta be 18.
You *cannot* trust if a girl works in bar she is over eighteen. This was my experience:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=888228&highlight=age#post888228
Okay, What is the age of majority?
I am using caution and that is the reason for my post.
We are unable to find the real legal facts.
I thought it would be easy to find that out on here but it does not seem so.
Age of consent to fuk may be different than age to work in commercial sex?
I'm guessing it is 18 but I do not want to guess.
Come on boys, someone must know the answer?
V tell your boy to leave the kids (under 18) alone. You guys should not even be having this discussion. Your boy should have went after girls that age when he was that age. If I was you I would find a new wing man.
Chocha Monger
10-03-09, 10:08
there is a real simple way of figuring out what the age of majority is, just do the following:
1. imagine what it would be like getting gang banged bareback by all the hardened filipino criminals in the local jail for 6 to 12 months in the sweltering heat.
2. imagine having your meager daily ration of rice forcibly taken from you each day by these same criminals who kill for a few hundred pesos.
3. imagine shitting in a bucket with your hemorrhoid inflamed ass in front of 50 or so other prisoners packed liked sardines wondering if they'll get turned on and pack your fudge again.
4. imagine getting your teeth kicked out so these murderers can use your mouth for bareback blowjobs without the fear of being bitten.
5. imagine coming down with aids and other illnesses from being raped by your hiv positive cell mates and not being given proper medical attention.
6. think people smell bad pressed together in jeepneys in the hot weather? well, you'll be enjoying the hot aroma of man-flesh in an overcrowded cell with no air conditioning.
7. ask yourself if you really need jackson or anyone else to tell you what the correct age limit should be.
This issue is a minefield.
There are two ages of consent in the Philippines.
If there is no money involved, then the age of consent is 12.
If there is money involved, then the age of consent is 18.
In my country, Australia, the issue of age of consent is a bloody minefield. ages differ between states, there are allowances for age differentials etc.
Generally, the age of consent is 15 or 16, but we know that by age 15, 50% of Australian girls have had sexual intercourse. So there are lots of technical breaches of the law. But the system turns a blind eye as long as they are both young.
Australia has a similar law to the US for international relations, technically, irespective of the local laws, a person commits an offence if he has sex with a female under the age of 18.
It totally ignores reality, and ages of maturity. I guess it is trying to force a mode of behaviour on Australian citizens to be sure that they can never get sprung, and hence saves the local embassy the effort of having to provide consular support.
So, as others have said here, stick to 18 and play safe.
G
i agree with your final sentence, but what "reality" are you referring to?
as i see it, the law is designed to prevent relatively wealthy ****s from contributing to child abuse in some 3rd world countries. that is a good thing.
x
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australia has a similar law to the us for international relations, technically, irespective of the local laws, a person commits an offence if he has sex with a female under the age of 18.
it totally ignores reality, and ages of maturity. i guess it is trying to force a mode of behaviour on australian citizens to be sure that they can never get sprung, and hence saves the local embassy the effort of having to provide consular support.
so, as others have said here, stick to 18 and play safe.
g
GoodEnough
10-03-09, 17:12
I don't understand the basis of this entire discussion. Why the hell would anyone want to engage in sex with a child under the age of 18 regardless of the law? Who cares what's technically "legal?" Under 18 is, or should be strictly off limits and no amount of rationalization can make it right.
GE
wow, on reading this thread, i decided to check things out before i contributed what i believed to be right, under australian law.
heres a link to a site i found and to the organizations briefing paper that spells out the age of concent laws in australia.
what a bloody mine field.
stick to 18 guys.
http://www.afao.com.au/library_docs/policy/age_of_consent_briefing_paperjune06.pdf
as for **** sex in forgen countries, in australia its actualy against the law to even make plans to travle over seas to engage in **** sex, aka pedaphilia, so lets not forget that.
as for a girl looking 18 or being lied too, it happend to me once. i had got back to my room with a girl when i asked her how old she was? her reply was in spanish and i thought she said 17! so i was shocked and said what?
she replied by saying 19 and drew the number 19 for me? hmmm cautious now i got her id and took it to the lady who owned the rooming house who spoke to the girl and proceeded to inform me that she was 19. (she was hot, black and looked 22 or 23) two days later i found out she was 17 and a half and had been working the industry for over a years.
in colombia i was appauled to see numerous truck drivers stopping to bang very young girls as young as 13. i know this because i spoke to the motorcycle police who were patroling/stationed in the brothel area.
they told me that they kick the very young ones (12 or under) out of the area as they are too young but 13 or older is tolerated there at that particular area. (no thankyou)
romania was another place where i was informed by the girls that 16 was the age of concent.
guys be safe stick to 18 and above and if your find that your into the younger ones maybe you should go have a quite word to your doctor. and get yourself sorted.
Member #3428
10-04-09, 01:23
i don't understand the basis of this entire discussion. why the hell would anyone want to engage in sex with a child under the age of 18 regardless of the law? who cares what's technically "legal?" under 18 is, or should be strictly off limits and no amount of rationalization can make it right.
ge
ge you know me, the girls i take, and my work. my target age is usually around 25 as they know how to screw by this point. of course i take younger and older.
i disagree with you because i do care what is "legal" and this discussion to me is important to me for the fact that if i pull a girl who says she is of age, acts and looks like she is 24, but is really 17 and something happens... can "big brother arse hole usa" bust my nuts when i transit us or it's territories.
i've had trouble with all my camera equipment and computers when i go through houston, miami, newark, jfk, san fran, honolulu and guam. and as you well know i am not the most favorite visitor of the usa govt as it is.
i totally agree with you and in all these posts i think anyone who goes after under 18 or targets them or such should have his nuts chopped off. to me this is not about wanting a young lady. it is about what problems you can face if you happen to find yourself jammed up and what you should do about it. i have followed these issues before these posts came up due to my situation and the old "what if" situation.
i think a few of us have atleast not knowingly started to talk to a lady who happened to be under 18 before, either in a mall, on line, bar, non bar, etc... i think for the most part the isg members i know would help chop off the nuts of anyone who targets these girls and if anyone posted that they were after young girls we would jump on him and ban him off these boards totally. we are not here to talk about that crap.
but to give you an example, that girl you and wr liked, she first said she was 24 then 22 then 21 but it turns out she had a kid at 14 and she was only recently turned 19. she could screw like a champion even going greek with pleasure, she enjoyed having me take her from behind while she was in 69 with my gf. show me a 19 year old that is supposed to perform like that. turns out she started work at 16 with a friends id. the other girl picture i posted said she was a lot older but she said she was 19 but turns out she would be turning 19 shortly and really was only 18 and started when she was 17. started a bar at 17 and turns out she did not have any nbi id. she was a referral to me so i never thought about checking her id.
i think anyone of us could have been with these two girls when they were **** by accident (not specifically targeting **** girls) and if caught i want to know what could happen when i transit the usa (or other country as i already know the rules in my home country). in philippines i know i'd be paying peso to everyone and their mother and their cousin and their uncles etc.... and hope it doesn't go too far.
so the recent visit had me relooking at the rules and in truth, i really did email our legal advisor to check things. and it is a total mess as to the rules, there are too many conflicting legislations out there.
I actually don't like sex with 18-19 yr olds, they usually don't have the experience and are there for the $$$$ where as older broads know what they are doing and also enjoy what they are doing.
Yes, I have noticed a few girls on dia that say they are 18 and look 13, so me and my wingman made a deal and are staying far away for jail bait.
But thanks for all the comments. It is a touchy subject.
GoodEnough
10-04-09, 09:15
tansak, i know you would never knowingly target anyone ****. i did not mean that we should ignore legalities and i guess i wasn't very clear. what i meant was that regardless of whether the law says it's okay to target women under the age of 18, it's still wrong, though i know it's sometimes extremely difficult to ascertain the age. as others here have pointed out however, it's probably best, if there's any doubt at all, just to walk away. this does not eradicate all risk, but it does reduce the chances of having an encounter that might eventually be the cause of regret.
ge
Member #3428
10-04-09, 09:59
though I know it's sometimes extremely difficult to ascertain the age. As others here have pointed out however, it's probably best, if there's any doubt at all, just to walk away. This does not eradicate all risk, but it does reduce the chances of having an
Yeah I know... maybe it is only me, I'm 40 now, and I sure as shit do not remember girls at 18 looking like they do now or performing like they do now a days. Jesus Christ I swear they are looking much older and doing things that no 18 year old "should" be doing or knowing. It is sometimes scary (at least to me) to think how, why, when they learned to do some of this shit.
And if there were girls like this 22 years ago when I was 18 I sure as shit never found them growing up or I might never have grown up, just died in heaven right then and there.
When I was young I can't even imagine a girl at 19 going greek with the gusto that girl did last week while she was munching the other girls muff. But let me take a moment to thank the lord for these girls...
We are very fortunate to have the opportunities to monger with 22-28 year old girls with a few girls on each side of that equation now and then.... There is no reason to venture too far away from that range for me but better to be informed then uninformed.
Thank the lord I have a job that takes me to mongering heaven locations (MNL, BKK, and a few others). We can't ask for a better hobby, just keep everything friendly and legal and above board.
tansak, i know you would never knowingly target anyone ****. i did not mean that we should ignore legalities and i guess i wasn't very clear. what i meant was that regardless of whether the law says it's okay to target women under the age of 18, it's still wrong, though i know it's sometimes extremely difficult to ascertain the age. as others here have pointed out however, it's probably best, if there's any doubt at all, just to walk away. this does not eradicate all risk, but it does reduce the chances of having an encounter that might eventually be the cause of regret.
ge
actually, it's hard to tell some times. i bar fined a girl for my friend in ac last february who said she was 18. the next day she admitted to my friend that she was only 17. this is out of a well known bar in ac. you just have to be extra careful i guess.
yella man
FireWalker
10-04-09, 10:47
Actually, it's hard to tell some times. I Bar fined a girl for my friend in AC last February who said she was 18. The next day she admitted to my friend that she was only 17. This is out of a well known bar in AC. You just have to be extra careful I guess.
Yella Man
There was a 16 year old on stage at one of the Fields Bars last night. It happens.
Key Master
10-04-09, 14:45
I think we all get the drift here. Maybe we should move on and preserve the board. Sorry, but I like ISG a little too much.
An oh by the way?
Lawmakers love these kinds of laws. Nice headlines. If the govt has to spend money fixing the law because its unworkable--they don't care. Lawmakers don't pay for the fixing part. And I read now their is something like 400,000 names in sexual offender registries nationwide.
Soliciting a pro is illegal in most of the US. Why not extend that to US citizens worldwide? Who would stand up and object to that?
I've been traveling to Rio de Janeiro since the late 80's but I just can't see paying the prices there anymore. I LOVE the food, music, scenery, and women! The hotels are all relatively dumpy and just not girl friendly. The restaurants I enjoy are just too expensive, even just for 1 person, let alone a friend or two. I am hoping that some people on this site will convince me that the Philippines is the answer to my traveling dilemma. How is the food in the Philippines? I plan on visiting Makati, Cebu, and Boracay. I adore Brazilian beef. Does the meat in the Philippines compare in taste? It seems as if the accommodations in the Philippines are outstanding and not too pricey!
Is agoda a reliable site to book hotel reservations? There prices seem MUCH lower than all other travel sites. My passport expires in July 2010. Should I get a "new" one before I go? How is the jet lag from the USA, especially upon returning home? I have friends that "swear" that the Philippines is heaven on earth! I just am not getting the excitement in booking a 2 week vacation to Rio like I use to. Anyone care to share some further insight into my dilemma?
Soliciting a pro is illegal in most of the US. Why not extend that to US citizens worldwide? Who would stand up and object to that?
Members od the US military already fall into this category. The Uniform Code of Military Justice (UCMJ) was amended several years ago that forbids any member of the US military for paying for sex anywhere, anytime. And if you are married you can be tried for adultery, also.
Where would Angeles or Thailand be without the US military mongering during the Viet Nam war.
Slim
Member #3428
10-05-09, 10:21
How is the food in the Philippines? I plan on visiting Makati, Cebu, and Boracay. I adore Brazilian beef. Does the meat in the Philippines compare in taste? It seems as if the accommodations in the Philippines are outstanding and not too pricey! ............ My passport expires in July 2010. Should I get a "new" one before I go? How is the jet lag from the USA, especially upon returning home? I have friends that "swear" that the Philippines is heaven on earth! I just am not getting the excitement in booking a 2 week vacation to Rio like I use to. Anyone care to share some further insight into my dilemma?
Food? You are worried about the beef?
Ok to me the absolutely worst food in all of asia is Filipino food. FLAME away folks... but I think it is absolutely horrendous. You will most likely hate the food, their idea of delicacy is jolliebee :D Ok now that is exaggeration but seriously the food in PI, the ethnic food is not top of the line.
Jet lag... everyone is different can't comment on that only you can make that judgement... take a valium pill to sleep on the plane and wake up ready to screw....
Girls... for me the girls are great and I think you will greatly enjoy them. I do more enjoy Thai girls but Filipina's are better english and can really shag great.
Cebu is nice, MNL is a hell hole to me personally... I'd not waste too much time in MNL as there are better places to monger then in MNL. And I'm assuming you are going just to monger. MNL is the stopping point IMHO, for mongering get in and out of MNL as fast as you can as there are better venues, it is crime infested, dirty, and overpriced. Unfortunately all my monger is done in MNL. But there are much better prices and locations then MNL so get away from MNL would be my advice.
Boracay I took a girl with me when I went so I can't comment on the girl selection there. Cebu is loaded with girls. If you are going for pure sex go to Angeles and Cebu IMHO.
Depends when you are going if you want to renew your passport or not. If you are going now then no need. But you need 6 months I believe on your US passport from the time you leave I believe.
Now there are a lot more experienced guys about PI here then me and that's my take on the lay of the land.
Cunning Stunt
10-05-09, 10:32
Ok to me the absolutely worst food in all of asia is Filipino food. FLAME away folks...
Don't think you will get flamed on this topic here TKTV:). Filipino food sucks and I imagine that is the general consensus. The best food is in the Bicol region, which have spicy dishes like Bicol Express and Laing. But even that is just a pale imitation of Thai food. Adobo is tolerable but loaded with fat and chlorestol (everyone seem to have high BP in The Philipines). As to Diniguin which is another popular dish and is pieces of pork offal floating in pigs blood ...say no more ... I feel a dry heave coming on:D.
GoodEnough
10-05-09, 12:24
Who could flame empirical truth? It's the worst crap on the planet and I can't eat any of it except for maybe an occasional kinilaw. Fortunately, a rapidly growing number of European restaurants are opening in Davao, so the choice is becoming pretty decent.
GE
I've been traveling to Rio de Janeiro since the late 80's but I just can't see paying the prices there anymore. I LOVE the food, music, scenery, and women! The hotels are all relatively dumpy and just not girl friendly. The restaurants I enjoy are just too expensive, even just for 1 person, let alone a friend or two. I am hoping that some people on this site will convince me that the Philippines is the answer to my traveling dilemma. How is the food in the Philippines? I plan on visiting Makati, Cebu, and Boracay. I adore Brazilian beef. Does the meat in the Philippines compare in taste? It seems as if the accommodations in the Philippines are outstanding and not too pricey!
Is agoda a reliable site to book hotel reservations? There prices seem MUCH lower than all other travel sites. My passport expires in July 2010. Should I get a "new" one before I go? How is the jet lag from the USA, especially upon returning home? I have friends that "swear" that the Philippines is heaven on earth! I just am not getting the excitement in booking a 2 week vacation to Rio like I use to. Anyone care to share some further insight into my dilemma?
In Manila and Cebu there are very good restaurents with good food. If you eat at low end places food will suck. Do not go to mall food court. It may look good but the hygiene is suspect. These foods are prepared god knows how long ago and by whom. They only heat it up or fry it in stale oil to serve it hot.
Philippine beef is not good quality. Since most of the country eats pork I guess there is no market for beef.
Seafood is pretty good. There are good Chinese restaurents and the food is really good. In manila they have most of the American chain restaurents but the quality is not the same.
Flamed...is surely what describes the succulent chicken that comes off the rotesseries of Filipino master chefs. Chicken, racks of pork....etc.
If you like fried and greasy, leave Kentuky fried chicken and McDonalds behind-- Philippines is where you want to be!
X
Who could flame empirical truth? It's the worst crap on the planet and I can't eat any of it except for maybe an occasional kinilaw. Fortunately, a rapidly growing number of European restaurants are opening in Davao, so the choice is becoming pretty decent.
GE
having been coming to the philippines on diving vacations twice a year for the past 15 years, i now find myself living here in manila for a year on a job assignment. a month into it i offer some random musings. for you long-term veterans of the 'pines, i'm afraid there's nothing new or particularly enlightening here. sorry 'bout that! but maybe others might find a few things that match (or don't) their experiences.comments welcome as i am always open to (re)education. hey, who knows, maybe a 'random thoughts' thread may come out of the feedback.
-memo to self: when a gal i've been out with once starts calling me 'honey'. be afraid. be very afraid.
-they've perfected one-stop shopping here. every mall has a chapel.
-memo to self: if a taxi driver tells me, 'my meter isn't working well, how much you can pay? ' get out and find a different taxi.
-the largest sections of the supermarkets are cooking oil and canned meat.
-memo to self: next time i need a bank acct here, but am non-resident and don't have the acr (alien certificate of registration), try hsbc first. amazed that i could show them a passport, a drivers license id, and a 59 day tourist visa, and walk out of there in 45 minutes with a usd acct, a php acct, a php linked checkbook, and a visa debit card.
-the largest sections of the bookstores are bibles and self-help.
-if my gal starts drinking red horse, i'm in for a bumpy ride. or no ride at all.
-memo to self: if the burgos bar waitress cajoles me to buy my gal a drink, tell her 'not yet'. then, if i like the gal sitting next to me, tell her, 'don't worry, i'll leave you a nice tip for the time you spend with me here.' i end up saving money (from the crazy 350 peso ld's), and the gal makes just as much, if not more. a rough formula = 100 php per 30 minutes. more, of course, if the chat is supplemented with 'body language'.
-the most common answer to, 'how long does it take by taxi to get to _____ from here? is 'it depends'.
-memo to self: quit buying those 100 peso 60-minute wireless prepaid cards at sbucks. instead, invest in a smartbro mobile usb router for 1900 pesos. then, with smartbro pre-paid cards (from any smart wireless center), connect for 10 pesos per 30 minutes.
-seems like you can't be a filthy rich politician here without a little boy's nickname.
-memo to self: if the taxi driver, after hearing where i want to go, says something like, 'shall i pass by _______ road (fill in the blank)? ' just say, 'i usually take ______ road, but take whichever street has the least traffic right now.'
-rush hour around here is 24/7.
-memo to self: if i'm on the streets in ermita during a heavy downpour, find a rowboat.
-umbrellas are like amex cards—never leave home without one.
-memo to self: next time i fancy a gal in a burgos bar, resist the urge to pull out the wallet for the outrageous barfine. instead, tell her, 'i don't barfine because i know the bar owner is already rich enough. but i'd be happy to give you my number so you can text me when you are off work. then we can have a real date.' works about 50% of the time. for the other 50% there's always la café.
-starbucks baristas are cute, friendly, gainfully employed. and datable.
-memo to self: next time i put up my profile on date in asia, or one of the other sites, expect to get inundated in the first 48 hours with dozens of inane messages from gals rep001tered all over the country. 'hi, can i be your friend, text me at _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _.
-'taglish', with its reliance on strong vowels, rolled r's and a melodious lilt, is a wonderful linguistic creature.
-memo to self: don't meet a gal from dia based solely on her profile photo. duh!
-in spite of the poverty and crappy, fatty, fast food diet, filipinas have lovely white teeth. go figure.
-memo to self: wanna make a fortune here? invest in a plastic dashboard jesus factory.
-who the hell gives the bar girls those ridiculous names? 'bambi'? 'chastity'? 'yuki'? 'johnnie'? 'rumba'? 'irish', 'apple'? i ran into all of them in one night!
-memo to self: resist the temptation to yell sarcastically, 'yeah, i know, sherlock, i'm not blind! ' when the department store sales clerk follows me around from aisle to aisle telling me the obvious, 'men's socks, sir. men's shoes, sir. shoulder bags, sir.'
-drivers are not actually trying to clip my butt with their rearview mirror as i cross the street; it just seems so.
-memo to self: don't ask a bar girl, 'what's your real name? ' until i'm at least back at my place with her.
-what's the deal with the demand from landlords for post dated checks to cover the whole rent period.
-memo to self: next time i want to rent a condo or apt, remember that the rent is almost always negotiable. offer more up front as a negotiating tool.
-the most common definition of 'kuripot', when muttered by a gal i'm with, seems to be 'you cheap bastard, why won't you give me as much money as i want whenever i want it'. my other boyfriends do.
-memo to self: when a gal i've gone out with once texts me that 'there's some problem at work and i didn't receive my salary yet', don't reply. ever.
-the most frequent oxymoron i've heard here: 'i'm a simple woman.'
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.
Wicked Roger
10-05-09, 18:23
I've been traveling to Rio de Janeiro since the late 80's but I just can't see paying the prices there anymore. I LOVE the food, music, scenery, and women! The hotels are all relatively dumpy and just not girl friendly. The restaurants I enjoy are just too expensive, even just for 1 person, let alone a friend or two. I am hoping that some people on this site will convince me that the Philippines is the answer to my traveling dilemma. How is the food in the Philippines? I plan on visiting Makati, Cebu, and Boracay. I adore Brazilian beef. Does the meat in the Philippines compare in taste? It seems as if the accommodations in the Philippines are outstanding and not too pricey!
Is agoda a reliable site to book hotel reservations? There prices seem MUCH lower than all other travel sites. My passport expires in July 2010. Should I get a "new" one before I go? How is the jet lag from the USA, especially upon returning home? I have friends that "swear" that the Philippines is heaven on earth! I just am not getting the excitement in booking a 2 week vacation to Rio like I use to. Anyone care to share some further insight into my dilemma?
TKTV has replied to most of this and GE has also rightly commented again on the quality of Filipino cuisine
About the hotels...
Try www.hoteltravel.com or www.asiarooms.com also
Agoda is ok but the headline price is not the real price, as it adds extra when you book online...eg I booked parklane cebu $36 a night but real price is $70 ...
So check and compare
I tired to PM you but your PM facility is not up and running
Member #4351
10-05-09, 21:02
"their idea of delicacy is jolliebee Ok now that is exaggeration"
No it isn´t.
The Rooster1
10-05-09, 22:41
Memo to self: Resist the temptation to yell sarcastically, 'Yeah, I know, Sherlock, I'm not blind! ' when the department store sales clerk follows me around from aisle to aisle telling me the obvious, 'Men's socks, sir. Men's shoes, sir. Shoulder bags, sir.'
Great report. And this is the living room, and this is the bathroom, and this is the bedroom, this is the kitchen where you cook (no shit), hold on right there miss realtor, thats the kitchen where my maid cooks and my girl gets pressed to the counter from behind when she tries to cook.
Peace out!
TurdyCurdyOne
10-06-09, 04:48
Mostly I have been a long time Mexico monger.
Being not bad looking, I usually had no trouble picking up women right of the street with a simple: Quiesera una muchacha por me cuarto por una hora.
But as I have gotten older the prices have gone up and it is not as easy to attract the right attention from the right women.
Now I am seriously looking at living in the Phil. I do not have the income or job to be going back and forth, so it is more a matter of where to settle.
Seems to me from what I have read that the ONLY really CHEAP place for bar sex in the Philippines is Angeles. But since I don't do bars much anyways, it is more relevant to me how accessible the non-pros or part time pros are, or just the sluts ;-)
The barfines I have seen from other places, CDO, Bacolod are outrageous-P3500 for example. What a joke. That is more than most
filipinas pay for rent in a month.
How much effort do I have to put in to do what I did in Mexico, pick up freelancers? I go for the quick close, I don't like to spend alot of time courting them just to get them into the sack. Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.
Also I am thinking of living there for some time and found this list of best cities to live in the Phil:
http://moneysense.com.ph/wordpress/2008/04/best-places-to-live/
Can anyone who has been to these places rank them in terms of air quality, relative climate, housing costs and ease of freelance pickup/putout?
Thanks for any good feedback.
Who the hell gives the bar girls those ridiculous names? 'Bambi'? 'Chastity'? 'Yuki'? 'Johnnie'? 'Rumba'? 'Irish', 'Apple'? I ran into all of them in one night!My wife is Filipina, so I found a bit of insight. Two of her female cousins have really goofy names. Apparently many of their uncles were sailors back in the day. Long story short: these two were named after a couple of hookers in Norway!
-Memo to self: If a taxi driver tells me, 'My meter isn't working well, how much you can pay? ' Get out and find a different taxi.Nobody bothers with meters, they're only for transport department decoration & tourists..
-Memo to self: Next time I need a bank acct here, but am non-resident and don't have the ACR (Alien Certificate of Registration), try HSBC first. Amazed that I could show them a passport, a drivers license id, and a 59 day tourist visa, and walk out of there in 45 minutes with a USD acct, a PHP acct, a PHP linked checkbook, and a VISA Debit card.Good advice HSBC is even very helpful if ur offshore & need an account set up in Manila!
-Memo to self: If I'm on the streets in Ermita during a heavy downpour, find a rowboat.or scuba gear, definitely move to higher ground, it gets real wet real fast on those crappy streets huh?
-Memo to self: Don't meet a gal from DIA based solely on her profile photo. Duh!You poor barstard! :D hehehe
-In spite of the poverty and crappy, fatty, fast food diet, Filipinas have lovely white teeth. Go figure.They live on rice & fish until they marry you, then they hit the jollibee real hard..
-Memo to self: Wanna make a fortune here? Invest in a plastic dashboard Jesus factory.Hey! Great idea man! ;)
-Memo to self: Resist the temptation to yell sarcastically, 'Yeah, I know, Sherlock, I'm not blind! ' when the department store sales clerk follows me around from aisle to aisle telling me the obvious, 'Men's socks, sir. Men's shoes, sir. Shoulder bags, sir.'They're just doing their job dude..
-Drivers are not actually trying to clip my butt with their rearview mirror as I cross the street; it just seems so...and dont play chicken with them when driving, they WILL drive right into you.
-What's the deal with the demand from landlords for post dated checks to cover the whole rent period.Its just the way they do things here, most tenants are too poor to trust.
-Memo to self: Next time I want to rent a condo or apt, remember that the rent is almost always negotiable. Offer more up front as a negotiating tool.Say what? Offer more???
And if you are married you can be tried for adultery, also.
Where would Angeles or Thailand be without the US military mongering during the Viet Nam war.
Slim
Don't forget the sodomy law also, which means if your wife likes it in the ass or mouth, and then you get a divorce, she can claim you defiled her!?!
As for Angeles or Thailand, well, Angeles would be nowhere, but I think Thailand would still be Thailand, just not as popular (or infamous if you prefer).
You could probably add S. Korea to that list as well as soldiers pour huge amounts of cash into the local economy.
What else do young soldiers do besides drink, fight, and fuck? Pretty much all in the same night hehe, which coincidentally, is the 1st and 15th of every month. Give or take 1-2 days.
Personally, I'm just pissed about the wars during my era. I mean, WWII had super hot French chicks, and Vietnam had Viets, Thais, Phils, etc... And what the fuck did I get?
Let me see: Panama-nope not there long enough only about 20 days, Uh-Desert Storm/Desert Shield-no hot wanna fuckee/suckee girls there, Both Somalia and Haiti-small joint exercises with no fucking allowed, and Finally-Iraq (definitely no hot chicks there unless you include the Baklas at the foot massage places-and I don't include those!!)
So, um, yea, I think I have reason to be a little pissed! Hell, even the Korean conflict had good Korean pussy.
I can only imagine the tears flowing down the cheeks of all the airman and saliors when Clinton closed Clark and Subic. Hell, I think I still shead a small tear when I take off from Clark, even now!
Ok, sorry about the ranting, guess I need a soapy massage.
Cunning Stunt
10-06-09, 08:44
Nobody bothers with meters, they're only for transport department decoration & tourists..
I do ... and I find that with a little polite prompting, most will turn them on. If they refuse, I won't use that cab. A metered journey invariably work out cheaper and the drivers know this.
Good advice HSBC is even very helpful if ur offshore & need an account set up in Manila!
Trouble with HSBC is that, heavily hit in the banking meltdown, in the last year they have closed a good few of their Philippine branches, so if you bank with them and don’t live in Makati, you might have a long trip to your nearest branch.
They're just doing their job dude....
Yes .. but do they have to follow you round like a shadow. Or when you say that you want to buy something, always say the same thing which is 'Only one'.
As in: Me: I'd like to buy that microwave oven.
Them: Only one, sir?
Me: No, I want a dozen. I collect microwave ovens.
Them: ????
, definitely move to higher ground, it gets real wet real fast on those crappy streets
Has anyone encountered the plank men when the streets of Manila are flooded, which is often? They turn up with their planks with which they form miniature bridges over the most flooded parts of the road. They then sit back and charge 1 peso toll fee to all pedestrians who use their bridges. You have to admire them for their business acumen and initiative.
Starchild2012
10-06-09, 11:53
Manila is a play boy town, but with all its errors, girls in plenty, i would suggest for balance, Cebu wins hands down.
How much effort do I have to put in to do what I did in Mexico, pick up freelancers? I go for the quick close, I don't like to spend alot of time courting them just to get them into the sack. Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.You shouldn't believe all of the stories here about the quick closes, just like we dont believe your stories about all the women you closed in Mexico.
TurdyCurdyOne
10-07-09, 04:38
You shouldn't believe all of the stories here about the quick closes, just like we dont believe your stories about all the women you closed in Mexico.Don't really care what you believe, looking for informative answers to my post.
Mostly I have been a long time Mexico monger.But since I don't do bars much anyways, it is more relevant to me how accessible the non-pros or part time pros are, or just the sluts ;-)
How much effort do I have to put in to do what I did in Mexico, pick up freelancers? I go for the quick close, I don't like to spend alot of time courting them just to get them into the sack. Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.
Thanks for any good feedback.
You say you may not mean to offend on the one hand yet on the other you are effectively calling some of the members here liars. It may be hard for you to believe, just as it would have been for me a few years ago. Why don't you give it a try next time you are here, you can always post a retraction or apology once you have found out the truth. Mind you if you walk around with the attitude that the girls are sluts as you have mentioned in your post, then you probably won't have much luck at all
There is no place in the Philippines with good air quality. The jeepneys belch out diesel fumes just about everywhere you go. And then there are the volcanoes erupting and spewing ash into the atmosphere. Even in AC, you'll have breathing problems on a windy day -- Pinatubo ash.
Of course if you have volcanoes, you also have earthquakes and the threat of tsunami.
Climate. Hot and humid and then floods.
Housing is cheap, but you have to pay everything up front and sometimes they'll rip you off.
Don't listen to Mortman...Filipinas are good Catholics. Taking them to morning mass seems to impress them. You might even get to hold their hand when no one is looking.
X
Can anyone who has been to these places rank them in terms of air quality, relative climate, housing costs and ease of freelance pickup/putout?
Thanks for any good feedback.
The Rooster1
10-08-09, 16:07
Mostly I have been a long time Mexico monger.
Being not bad looking, I usually had no trouble picking up women right of the street with a simple: Quiesera una muchacha por me cuarto por una hora.
But as I have gotten older the prices have gone up and it is not as easy to attract the right attention from the right women.
Now I am seriously looking at living in the Phil. I do not have the income or job to be going back and forth, so it is more a matter of where to settle.
Seems to me from what I have read that the ONLY really CHEAP place for bar sex in the Philippines is Angeles. But since I don't do bars much anyways, it is more relevant to me how accessible the non-pros or part time pros are, or just the sluts ;-)
The barfines I have seen from other places, CDO, Bacolod are outrageous-P3500 for example. What a joke. That is more than most
filipinas pay for rent in a month.
How much effort do I have to put in to do what I did in Mexico, pick up freelancers? I go for the quick close, I don't like to spend alot of time courting them just to get them into the sack. Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.
Also I am thinking of living there for some time and found this list of best cities to live in the Phil:
http://moneysense.com.ph/wordpress/2008/04/best-places-to-live/
Can anyone who has been to these places rank them in terms of air quality, relative climate, housing costs and ease of freelance pickup/putout?
Thanks for any good feedback.Why would we have to lie? I live in the PI and sometimes I think these guys hold back so much info and good stories. I have had some doozies, just don't need to tell the whole world. WHy are you ineterested in living here all of a sudden and looks like a bit negative already?
What happened to Mexico? Did it dry up? Just a couple questions for you and then I would greatly appreciate giving you some good advice.
Peace out!
Rooster, I sit here with a big smile on my face. About 15 years ago I was back in my hometown (a rare occurence) hanging with some boyhood friends. Someone asked, "how many women have you laid in your life?"
Tony, the guy with good looks and two stunning sisters said, "Fourteen or fifteen". He smirked and the guys all looked impressed. Everyone believed him, after all, he was dating a nurse when he was still in high school.
The others all responded with some number less than ten. Then they looked at me.
Well, not wanting to sound like a braggard, I cut my number by about 50% and said, "Fifty or sixty". Their response was, "LIAR", and they hooted and hollered and laughed.
I countered with, "I had three in one day in the Philppines." They didn't believe me.
Of course most were bought and paid for, but even in the midst of the Olongapo debauchery of 1980 I remember pulling a freebie -- a feisty 90lb hotel security guard.
And here I am, still telling lies thirty years later. :-)
X
Picture: Intercourse about five hours after meeting face to face. Or, maybe I'm a liar!
Why would we have to lie? I live in the PI and sometimes I think these guys hold back so much info and good stories.
Peace out!
Lustforthrust
10-09-09, 06:55
Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.
The quick closes are with free-lancers hanging out in the mall. What's not to believe? They are looking for johns in certain malls and johns find them there.
I was not believing the easy freelancer scores in phils.
But last year I told to my self what the f. Ck lets try it. And I tried it.
Generally speaking people here tell their experiences which ends in success. But in order to reach it you have to have many trials. (fundamentals of statistics)
If you get the sparkling from the girl then go and make your move.
Then ask for her address. Generally speaking they live in outer skirts of the city which is far from the shopping malls.
Then invite her to dinner and drink some wine to cool things down.
Afterwards tell her that you won't let her go to her place that day due to 1- it is raining heavily 2- it is too late for a girl to walk alone.
Pretend as if a gentleman who is not looking for an easy shot.
If the girl accepts your offer or even not rejects (pretending confused). Tell her you are gentleman and she doesn't have to worry about what will happen at the hotel room. Tell her you just want her to stay in your room otherwise you will be nervous.
At this point 80% of girls accepts your offer. Generally very few accepts at first offer as they don't want to look as cheap girl.
Both of you know what both are looking for. You look for pussy and she looks for a financial supporter and she knows the pathway.
After you head to your hotel room you get in to the same bed (never book a 2 bed room) the rest is pretty easy.
The quick closes are with free-lancers hanging out in the mall. What's not to believe? They are looking for johns in certain malls and johns find them there.I was having a coffee and reading the paper at the coffee shop in Ayala. i got bounced within 5 minutes by some pretty horrible looking pros. hell I had not even finished the first page of the paper before I get surrounded by some of the ugliest specimens alive. They must have been desperate to think I am that desperate, I am old, fat, ugly, smelly, balding dwarf with bad breath, no hair no teeth and chronic BO but was in better shape than any of them lol.
Yes you can get very unlucky in under an hour if you so choose.
S
I think the fastest I ever closed was in Cebu. Met a girl as I walked by a coffee shop, she was reading the paper, I smiled, said hello, and she smiled back.
Roughly 45-1 hour later we were in my hotel room.
And roughly 45min-1 hour later I was finished.
Total time outlay was about 2 hours, and this was 3 in the afternoon.
True story.
Forgot about another time when i was in Manila hanging out at the hotel pool and three girls were hanging around giggling and playing and laughing.
Said one of the workers was a friend and let them in to play in the pool from time to time.
Within 30 minutes all were in my hotel room and within another 30 I fucked one girl while the other two watched.
No money exchanged hands during either experience, unless you count drinks and food at the pool and room service.
Irony Monger
10-09-09, 13:51
I think the fastest I ever closed was in Cebu. Met a girl as I walked by a coffee shop, she was reading the paper, I smiled, said hello, and she smiled back.
Roughly 45-1 hour later we were in my hotel room.Transcripts dude, we need transcripts of that conversation! Some of us who are out of practice need to learn your closing skills.
Hope to be in Cebu in less than 30 days, with stops in Tokyo and maybe Singapore on the way, AC shortly thereafter. November should be fun!
Cunning Stunt
10-10-09, 07:03
Fast food joints offer a rich vein of possibilities as well for those with a little more time and patience. Look for the serving wench that you fancy and frequent her establishment/queue line as often as possible. She will quickly recognise you and you will start (if she is up for it) to get an extra wide smile, more attention and maybe a few extra french fries with your order! I have little business cards printed with my first name and CP No and the message ‘Be my text mate’. Be surreptitious when you pass her this card as she would not want her fellow workers to know.
Fast food girls are poorly paid and on limited contracts so are often up for a little extra cash/excitement in their lives.
It does work, I can assure you. I have had success at Jolibees, KFC and Starbucks using this method.
Only trouble is all the shit lunches and bitter coffee that you have to endure:D.
Member #3428
10-10-09, 07:14
It does work, I can assure you. I have had success at Jolibees, KFC and Starbucks using this method.
Seconded.... KFC airport hotel (lots of short layovers for me), starbucks at glorietta and I'm only there short time not like you folks.
FreebieFan
10-10-09, 09:06
How much effort do I have to put in to do what I did in Mexico, pick up freelancers? I go for the quick close, I don't like to spend alot of time courting them just to get them into the sack. Do not mean to offend, but sorry I don't believe all the stories I see here about how easily and quickly you meet them in the mall and then they are in bed with you an hour later.
Thanks for any good feedback.Mate,
It doesnt matter what you beleive or not.... from personal experience have chatted to a gal on DIA Tagged Friendster etc ...met them in a mall near where my place is and had them in bed within an hour MANY MANY times. Read my reports.
Oh and if you think its all BS.. theres a nice new report of my 4 days and 4 lays in Jakarta just posted. All free of course.
So I hope you enjoy good times in the Phils.. the girls are great, but respect some members here with a less confrontational approach. It might work better for you...
GoodEnough
10-10-09, 16:01
Mate,
It doesnt matter what you beleive or not.... from personal experience have chatted to a gal on DIA Tagged Friendster etc ...met them in a mall near where my place is and had them in bed within an hour MANY MANY times. Read my reports.
Oh and if you think its all BS.. theres a nice new report of my 4 days and 4 lays in Jakarta just posted. All free of course.
So I hope you enjoy good times in the Phils.. the girls are great, but respect some members here with a less confrontational approach. It might work better for you...
Why would anyone here care what this guy believes? Those of us who live here know the truth and don't have to prove anything to anyone.
ManonsanBoy
10-10-09, 19:35
Of course most were bought and paid for, but even in the midst of the Olongapo debauchery of 1980 I remember pulling a freebie -- a feisty 90lb hotel security guard.
And here I am, still telling lies thirty years later. :-)
X
Picture: Intercourse about five hours after meeting face to face. Or, maybe I'm a liar!
I started in 1975 and have passed 1000 last year. I cannot imagine what number you got up to. Cheers to cialis!
I started in 1975 and have passed 1000 last year. Cheers to cialis!
WOW! Me just around 350. But without Cialis.
And working hard to catch up! :D
Cheers!
Transcripts dude, we need transcripts of that conversation! Some of us who are out of practice need to learn your closing skills.
Hope to be in Cebu in less than 30 days, with stops in Tokyo and maybe Singapore on the way, AC shortly thereafter. November should be fun!
wow, your november should be very fun indeed!
I really think it is all about attitude. I had come off a horrible couple of days out with a green card digger from FH where we spent a long couple of days at Alona Kew beach resort.
The day I got back to Cebu (and got rid of her) turned into a fuck-fest of epic proportions! For the next couple of days it seemed like I couldn't miss, with girls picking up on me for at all hours of the day.
All I did was be happy to oblige their wanting vagina's
Good thing I will be back in Cebu soon. I can only hope for a repeat experience.
FreebieFan
10-12-09, 01:20
Yeah, I think you are right about those guys laying on the chili about how easy it is. I go there every three months and never see foreigners picking up young filipinas. I think they actually despise us and can't wait for us to leave, much like the Hawaiians.
Why do I go? I enjoy the great Filipino food, traffic, dirty air and jet lag. I can't get any of those back home. Take my word for it, the amateurs are a whole lot easier to pick up on in TJ, Mex. Don't waste your money to go to Phils, you would probably go home disappointed.Presumably your tongue was somewhat firmly esconced in your cheek at thre time of writing.........lol
FreebieFan
10-12-09, 06:42
WOW! Me just around 350. But without Cialis.
And working hard to catch up! :D
Cheers!How do you keep track.?
I tried thru my sim cards (over 100 on my MH sim card) and 80 on my PH sim and 30 on my IND car and 20 on my BKK sim and 30 on my China sim, 25 on my HK sim car plus about 50 on my YM and another 18 on msn. But some are dupes and some have been long long long forgotten. I gave up counting a long time ago.
El Vagabundo
10-12-09, 18:02
Good morning and Hello, to all. I am looking for some help with bringing my Motorcycle to SE Asia. Perhaps some one there has some experience in these affairs. I started out in USA and rode my bike to South America. I am now in Colombia. I found a broker that can ship my bike to Thailand from here for around $1, 200.00 I am assuming that there will be around $300 more on the other end, for a total of $1, 500.00
I was thinking of scooting around Thailand, Laos and Cambodia for 3 to 6 weeks and then bring it over to the Philippines for a while longer. After that, I do not really know. It just depends on how I feel.
Here are my questions:
How much time does the Phil Govt. Allow for temporary importation?
How much does a Suzuki DL 1000 Vstrom cost in the Philippines?
Has any one had some experience doing this?
Any help is most gratefully appreciated
Martin
How do you keep track.?
I take photos of all the girls, and each of my trips get a new folder on the HDD.
So once on a rainy Sunday I sat down and counted all through and came to a number, somewhat 270 or so in early 2008.
Nowadays I estimate it around 350. Roughly.
Maybe 360, maybe 335, I don't know.
Cheers!
Good morning and Hello, to all. I am looking for some help with bringing my Motorcycle to SE Asia. Perhaps some one there has some experience in these affairs.
How much time does the Phil Govt. Allow for temporary importation?
How much does a Suzuki DL 1000 Vstrom cost in the Philippines?
Has any one had some experience doing this?
Hi Martin,
great idea, since I'm going to do the same later, estimated in 2011.
Difference is, I'm in Malaysia and riding a bike with Malaysian insurance and number plate.
I know so far that I can enter Thailand, Singapore and Laos without problems. India also fine.
Cambodia is okay as well, but I haven't made up my mind yet,
whether I should go there with a Big Bike.
I'm not allowed to enter Myanmar and China with a private vehicle at all.
Philippines I've heard the following. On entry you have to pay taxes around the value of the bike.
Leaving the PI at the same point (entry=exit) you'll get the money back, but this can take weeks.
(Who likes to give back money?)
Wrote to the PI embassy asking exactly about this,
still waiting for response.
(Will go there in person soon to get immidiate answer.)
And I was told Indonesia is even worse.
I'm just at the beginning of getting information about this,
me too would appreciate if someone knows more about it.
VStrom 1000 in Malaysia is slightly more than 20k USD,
if I remember correctly. Should be less in PI,
but still far from such low prices as in the States.
Cheers!
El Vagabundo
10-13-09, 12:29
Hi Martin,
Great idea, since I'm going to do the same later, estimated in 2011.Philippines I've heard the following. On entry you have to pay taxes around the value of the bike.
Leaving the PI at the same point (entry=exit) you'll get the money back, but this can take weeks.
(Who likes to give back money?)
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/stewart/2005_03.php
Member #3428
10-13-09, 21:33
Philippines I've heard the following. On entry you have to pay taxes around the value of the bike.
Leaving the PI at the same point (entry=exit) you'll get the money back, but this can take weeks.
(Who likes to give back money?)
http://www.horizonsunlimited.com/tstories/stewart/2005_03.php
Trying not to clog this up but.... Keep in mind if you organize and claim to be a charity or for some social area "ride for world peace" "foreigner rides PI for support of PacMan" then you can get items in and out and avoid certain permits, fees, hassles....
I know the above is tongue in cheek but we've gotten items in and out of PI on "charity" "promotional" "diplomatic" type things once we were recognized and found the right people to cut through the red tape.
Since you are talking about biking, if you see the bikers who are raising funds (ie begging but doing it legally) like sitting on Beach Road in Pattaya, on Waikiki in Honolulu, and other places with patches of the world on them, you'll find many have gotten themselves recognized as a legal charity or such to help in the movement of their gear and themselves. Many get shipping companies to ship their items for free just to put a banner on their bikes or trailers or patches on their jackets.
Just another way to look at things. Or take a video camera and say you are doing a documentary for publish on some of these new cable channels. A few days of emails / faxes and such can get your fees waived in a lot of places.
Hello all,
In the initial stages of trip planning. Flying into Bangkok, mid February, spending some time in Thailand, before working my way over to Cambodia, Vietnam, than flying to the Phils. Flying home from Manila.
Would be booking my flight from Saigon to the Phils most likely in Bangkok.
Anyone taken this route and can recommend an airline, travel agency, and give me a ballpark figure what you paid, or any other insights, that would be much appreciated. Not my cherry trip to the Phils, but first time over to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Any must see things in your opinion?
Thanks,
Dameon
Cunning Stunt
10-17-09, 10:57
Apropos of nothing. Those Ozzies are rascals.
Just read a splendidly funny news article about the Disney Corporation being 'up in arms' when a Oz drinks company used the attached photo in their latest ad campaign. Brilliant:D.
Was going to append names of prominent Philippine board members to each of the naughty dwarfs but couldn't be arsed and besides there isn't a black dwarf;).
Member #3428
10-17-09, 23:35
Hello all,
In the initial stages of trip planning. Flying into Bangkok, mid February, spending some time in Thailand, before working my way over to Cambodia, Vietnam, than flying to the Phils. Flying home from Manila.
Would be booking my flight from Saigon to the Phils most likely in Bangkok.
Anyone taken this route and can recommend an airline, travel agency, and give me a ballpark figure what you paid, or any other insights, that would be much appreciated. Not my cherry trip to the Phils, but first time over to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Any must see things in your opinion?
Thanks,
Dameon
Can you become a paid member so you can use PM? If you are going to fly all those countries I think you can.
I'm do MNL and BKK all the time. In a few weeks I'm doing GUM - MNL - BKK - Hanoi - BKK - MNL - GUM That seems to be the best option to get to Hanoi is out of BKK but I could go through Hong Kong. Now I WANT to go back to BKK over Hong Kong as I have girls in BKK and in MNL.
I know a travel agent in the pacific, thailand and vietnam that might pull some other people (travel agents) in to help you. I know a member who works and lives in Hanoi and I frequent Thailand. Even if you don't use them they can get you ideas on hotels / fligths etc...
This IS the PI thread... so please move to Vietnam and Thai threads I guess and try to PM me so we are not clogging up the PI section with BKK and Vietnam issues.
Hello all,
In the initial stages of trip planning. Flying into Bangkok, mid February, spending some time in Thailand, before working my way over to Cambodia, Vietnam, than flying to the Phils. Flying home from Manila.
Would be booking my flight from Saigon to the Phils most likely in Bangkok.
Anyone taken this route and can recommend an airline, travel agency, and give me a ballpark figure what you paid, or any other insights, that would be much appreciated. Not my cherry trip to the Phils, but first time over to Thailand, Cambodia, and Vietnam. Any must see things in your opinion?
Thanks,
Dameon
best one from saigon to phil is Cebu pacific flying out at 1 am. One way ticket costs under $100
From Cambodia, you can take a 5 hour bus trip to saigon, they drop you off at a backpacker area where you'll feel at home
Remember that you'll need visa to enter VN
Thank you for the info! I will probably travel overland from BKK to Saigon, won't head up as far as Hanoi, want to avoid as much back tracking as possible.
Will finally get around to becoming a paid member, will shoot you an PM Transak and take you up on your generous offer of info!
While mongering is certainly high on the list of things to do, also want to see some of the sights, take in the history of the countries. Still planning things, so I am going to do a little research in the Cambodia and Vietnam fourms before posting a request for info, so I don't have one of our cranky brothers posting a RTFF you moron post.
Thank you again!
I know that Cebu has a casino. What other cities in the Philippines have casinos?
The answer is important to me because I sometimes tend to gamble too much so I want to know what cities to avoid. I tend to think of my gambling losses in terms of how much pussy I missed out on.
Thanks!
Starchild2012
10-20-09, 07:55
I know that Cebu has a casino. What other cities in the Philippines have casinos?
The answer is important to me because I sometimes tend to gamble too much so I want to know what cities to avoid. I tend to think of my gambling losses in terms of how much pussy I missed out on.
Thanks!
Paccor or familer sounding name in Malate, Manila has a big casino.
Member #3428
10-20-09, 08:07
I know that Cebu has a casino. What other cities in the Philippines have casinos?
http://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/philippines
http://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/philippinesThy this website http://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/philippines/casino-list
Philippines Casino Quick Reference Guide:
Casino Filipino - Hyatt Manila +63 (2) 245-9763 Manila
Casino Filipino Angeles +63 (45) 892-5014 Angeles City
Casino Filipino Bacolod +63 (34) 434-8901 Bacolod City
Casino Filipino Davao +63 (82) 234-3998 Davao City
Casino Filipino Heritage +63 (2) 854-8751 Manila
Casino Filipino Laoag +63 (77) 772-1166 Laoag City
Casino Filipino Mimosa +63 (45) 599-6020 Angeles City
Casino Filipino Olongapo +63 (47) 222-4565 Olongapo City
Casino Filipino Parañaque +63 (2) 854-1605 Parañaque City
Casino Filipino Pavillion +63 (2) 523-8691 Manila
Casino Filipino Silahis +63 (2) 525-7966 Manila
Casino Filipino Tagaytay +63 (46) 413-1506 Tagaytay City
Fiesta Casino – Rizal Manila
Fiesta Resort Casino Poro Point Poro Point
Fontana Leisure Park +63 (2) 843-8798 Pampanga
Slot Machine Arcade - Bacolod +63 (34) 433-8731 Bacalod City
Slot Machine Arcade - Ronquillo +63 (2) 736-5530 Manila
Waterfront Airport Hotel & Casino Mactan +63 (32) 340-4888 Cebu
Waterfront Cebu City Hotel and Casino +63 (32) 232-6888 Cebu City
http://www.worldcasinodirectory.com/philippinesThank you! That was a very helpful link.
Last casino question. At American casinos, it is very common to get food, show, or room comps if you gamble at least 4 hours a day. Do Philippine casinos give comps? And would they give pussy comps to larger gamblers!
Davao has casino. And I suppose there is gambling on cockfighting most everywhere, you could include that.
Addicted to pussy and gambling, thats a serious jones. Personally, I like horse racing. They give you a 30 min breather between races, and you know it helps support farms and poor farm workers.
Cunning Stunt
10-20-09, 16:35
Addicted to pussy and gambling, thats a serious jones...
A man needs his hobbies. I've spent a lot of money on booze, birds and gambling. The rest I just squandered;)*.
* George Best R.I.P.
Member #4167
10-20-09, 18:34
Does it make sense to go the PI for a 2 week vacation?
Total travelling time to and from the PI from the US East coast is 3 days.
This would give me 12 full days in PI. I am trying to get a sense of how the place would be to live.
This is alot of travelling time.
Question to the forum: when people go to the PI, do they usually go for two weeks or longer?
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Member #3428
10-20-09, 21:35
only I don’t recall any being named Black Assholes or Punk Ass Brits.
If it was the Aussies then they must have named one of the 7 a Pommie and probably one named a Poodle Faker in there :D
Does it make sense to go the PI for a 2 week vacation?
Question to the forum: when people go to the PI, do they usually go for two weeks or longer?When you have to go, you have to go. I have gone for three weeks and gone for a week. When the PPD becomes too much, the sun moon and stars line up for time off from work, and airfare is decent it is a good time for a Phils trip.
Soapy Smith
10-21-09, 06:50
Does it make sense to go the PI for a 2 week vacation?
It makes sense. You don't indicate which country issued your passport, but visitors from many countries, including the U.S., are limited to 21 days unless you pay extra for an extension. You can see a fair amount in two weeks and, depending how quickly your batteries recharge, you can get in a lot of boom-boom in two weeks. In several places you can get a short time session with a decent looking young Pinay for the equivalent of $30 plus or minus. Short time usually implies two or three hours, and in most cases the experience is totally unlike the clock-watching experience back home for which you'd pay upward of $300 and get kicked out promptly at the end of one hour. A long time, meaning over night, with some Pinays leads to multiple pops, often limited more by your own bodily recovery than the willingness of the Pinay partner, and costs maybe $40. So go ahead and do the math. If you were back home and could muster a pop every night and every morning for 12 days, you'd be paying some escort (or escorts) $7200. The same number of pops, if done in 12 Long Time arrangements in the Phils, would cost you $480, and in most cases end up much more GFE than what you're accustomed to with pros back home. So what do you think, could you squeeze your airfare, lodging, and food into the $6720 difference in price?
Does it make sense to go the PI for a 2 week vacation?
Total travelling time to and from the PI from the US East coast is 3 days.
This would give me 12 full days in PI. I am trying to get a sense of how the place would be to live.
This is alot of travelling time.
Question to the forum: when people go to the PI, do they usually go for two weeks or longer?
I go to the Philippines around three times per year, each time my trip lasts for just over 2 weeks and my travelling time is usully two full days. Personally I think the travelling is not worth it and I am sure you will not like the women here. The food is terrible, the heat and pollution is bad and you would never enjoy living here :-)
Hoe White? I don't know what fuck this has to do with the Philippines. Don't what the fuck it has to do with this forum but what was cool about the dwarfs is that all their names fitted their personality like Sleepy, Grumpy etc. Only I don't recall any being named Black Assholes or Punk Ass Brits."WOW" this is the first time I've read the Philippine threads, bit of flaming going on. Reading other boards there seems to be a lot of complaints about Philippine airlines, paying for flights mainly. Any philippine monger know any more info on this.
From iching your favourite punk brit, LOL.
Cunning Stunt
10-21-09, 16:41
Hoe White? I don’t know what fuck this has to do with the Philippines...
Absolutely sweet FA:).
I thought X would make the best Grumpy but now ....hmmm.
Cunning Stunt
10-21-09, 16:55
Does it make sense to go the PI for a 2 week vacation?
Why not! I traveled from UK to Thailand once for a weeks stay. I had the time of my life. I don't think that I hardly slept until I got back on the flight home.
I have heard that long stag weekends to Bangkok from UK have become popular but it an awful long trip for a couple of days in LOS.
Irony Monger
10-21-09, 17:06
Last casino question. At American casinos, it is very common to get food, show, or room comps if you gamble at least 4 hours a day. Do Philippine casinos give comps? And would they give pussy comps to larger gamblers!I thought you were trying to avoid casinos? Of course, if they provides girls as comps, then it means that even if you lose, you win!
Member #4167
10-23-09, 20:11
I go to the Philippines around three times per year, each time my trip lasts for just over 2 weeks and my travelling time is usully two full days. Personally I think the travelling is not worth it and I am sure you will not like the women here. The food is terrible, the heat and pollution is bad and you would never enjoy living here :-)Mortman - Why would you keep going to the PI three times a year, if it is such a horrible place?
I think you are being sarcastic!
Mortman - Why would you keep going to the PI three times a year, if it is such a horrible place?
I think you are being sarcastic!
Sorry Water Boy it is called British humour!
Jackzonian
10-26-09, 20:01
Waterboy. You are on the right track: two weeks is minimum based on the travel hardship. I'm just tuning into the Philippine thread because I'm tired of Thailand and I'm thinking about the PI.
After many years and dozens of trips the LOS doesn't work any more. Too much pollution, stench, Russian mobsters, not to mention the Yakuzaah. Pattaya used to be a laugh riot. Now it's a nightmare. Back to your issues.
It's a long, long way, but if you like girls, (cute, petite, inexpensive, coffee colored asian girls in particular) it's worth it. Even with restless leg, it's worth it. I take the C_thay Pac deal-of-the Month out of LA, SF or NYC for a cheap flight to HK, and move on from there. Look into Cathay. From $800 to $1000 but it beats the others at $1200 plus. Other cheap airfares like the Koreans or Japanese, stop off in Seoul or Tokyo, which is fine, but it makes your final leg another Bear, at 7-8 hours after the 18 hour first leg. Out of HK, it's only an hour or two. After 18 hours across the Pacific, you don't want another 8 hour leg, just to save $75 bucks.
I spent a week in the PI two years ago, mainly in Manila due to business. It is a fun place and imho, polluted like most 3rd world cities, but cleaner than BKK. I invite other PI experts to weigh in here with more details for me and W. B. My experience is limited and I'm going to wade through this thread to get the info, but I wanna go back for a longer visit.
Mainly. Where can you combine great beaches with great chica's? . Like Pattaya used to be. In other words, what is the PI equivalent of Pattaya? I know Manila is fun, but how far do you have to go to get to the best beaches? Thanks for any input and reply's. PM's are AOK.
Thanks,
J
A question for those that have visited both: which city is better for mongering: Cebu or Davao?
I mean mainly in terms of number of working girls available, prices and safety.
I've been just once to the PI and hit Manila and AC, and in my next visit I would like to hit some other city, and either Cebu or Davao seem to be the best candidates from what I have read, but I'd like to know if there is some consensus on whether any of these 2 cities is better than the other.
FreebieFan
10-27-09, 00:47
[QUOTE=Warbucks. Only I don't recall any being named Punk Ass Brits.[/QUOTE]Would this be considered a put down. An insult of great magnitude or the equivalent of calling an Australian fellow a "whingeing Aussie ". Neither an insult but nor a compliment.
I'm intrigued. Because for sure, your answer could start a deluge of anti American threads. And as you know, we "punk ass Brits are masters of the put down.
Yankee 617
10-27-09, 02:45
About 3 years ago, I visited PI for 10 days (7 days in Manila and 3 in Cebu). While I was in Manila, I stayed near the LA Cafe and didn't venture very far (except one afternoon when the young gal I'd met at LA Cafe took me to visit her home).
I may be able to take a 3 week trip between Thanksgiving and Xmas. If so, and if I can find a cheap flight from the US east coast, I may choose to go to PI again because (amazing as it may seem) the US Dollar appears to have held up better against the PI Peso than it has against most other currencies. [I've been looking particularly at Latin American currencies.]
While I certainly would intend to do my share of mongering on this trip to PI, that's not my sole reason to go. I'd also like to enjoy good food and drink while relaxing on beautiful beaches in the company of fun and interesting people.
What do you think is the best itinerary for me? Where should I spend my time in PI? What sights should I see? I'll be traveling alone.
Just recently, some 2 weeks ago, I went to HSBC, where I have a primary Premier account. With ID of course.
Asked them to open an account with HSBC Manila for me.
The lady copied passport, asked many questions for filling an online form and told me thats it. Took 30 mins.
Yesterday got a debit card from HSBC Manila, which works also as ATM card.
Also got info about account number and so on.
Will now top up that account with some Euros and can access then easily pesos over there in PI.
Withdrawal limit as stated 150,000ps per day, what should be sufficient I guess. :D
To conclude, straight forward uncomplicated process.
Cheers!
Just recently, some 2 weeks ago, I went to HSBC, where I have a primary Premier account. With ID of course.
So you opened your HSBC Premier Account in Europe? And funds are deposited there in Euros? Interesting I suppose you have to transfer from one to another? And do this online, right? Thanks. I just checked and apparently we have HSBC in the US as well, particularly in Los Angeles.
Assume you'll fly into MNL, and you already know what to expect there. You could easily go up to AC for a few days. Last trip I flew out of AC to Cebu.
From Cebu City you can take Ocean Jet over to Bohol Islandor even Dumaguete City, Negros Island. Do some research on Alona Beach (Bohol). Best to take a gal with you.
http://www.oceanjet.net/
Cebu sights to see? Tops, St. Nina church. A few others....
Davao has a great combination of friendly people, beaches, mountains, etc. You can find more info on the Davao thread (GE is the Davao guru) and also Dragaonslayer section. Sights to see? Philippine eagles preserve, etc...
I could go on and on about "sights to see", but hey, gotta go to work sometime.
Gladiator asked about p4p, and I would say Cebu is better.
X
About 3 years ago, I visited PI for 10 days (7 days in Manila and 3 in Cebu). While I was in Manila, I stayed near the LA Cafe and didn't venture very far (except one afternoon when the young gal I'd met at LA Cafe took me to visit her home).
I may be able to take a 3 week trip between Thanksgiving and Xmas. If so, and if I can find a cheap flight from the US east coast, I may choose to go to PI again because (amazing as it may seem) the US Dollar appears to have held up better against the PI Peso than it has against most other currencies. [I've been looking particularly at Latin American currencies.]
While I certainly would intend to do my share of mongering on this trip to PI, that's not my sole reason to go. I'd also like to enjoy good food and drink while relaxing on beautiful beaches in the company of fun and interesting people.
What do you think is the best itinerary for me? Where should I spend my time in PI? What sights should I see? I'll be traveling alone.
So you opened your HSBC Premier Account in Europe?
Nope, in Malaysia. The account runs with Malaysian currency.
Interesting I suppose you have to transfer from one to another? And do this online, right?
I transfer from another account in Germany with Deutsche Bank. And I can't do it online, have to send fax.
The Euros will be converted into Pesos on arrival then.
Cheers!
I hope I am not breaking any rules on the board by asking the following. Many of us who use ISG are well familar with Jimmy Regina and his site specifically for Angeles City. It seems his site has been lost. Its to bad if this is the case because this site and his are by far a great resource of information for different reasons. Please forgive me Jackson if I have broken any rules in asking other members this question. I have been a long time contributer to this board and will continue. So what is going on with our comrade Jimmy?
Nope, in Malaysia. The account runs with Malaysian currency.
Thanks. They do have HSBC in the US, but ouch, out of my league. No wonder they were so nice to you.
To qualify for an HSBC Premier relationship you need to open a Premier checking account and maintain $100,000 in combined personal deposit and investment balances. Business owners may use their commercial balances to qualify for personal Premier membership. A monthly maintenance fee of $50 will be incurred if minimum balance requirements are not maintained.
I hope I am not breaking any rules on the board by asking the following. Many of us who use ISG are well familar with Jimmy Regina and his site specifically for Angeles City. It seems his site has been lost. Its to bad if this is the case because this site and his are by far a great resource of information for different reasons. Please forgive me Jackson if I have broken any rules in asking other members this question. I have been a long time contributer to this board and will continue. So what is going on with our comrade Jimmy?
Maybe your link is bad, I just googled it and it is up and running.
Starchild2012
10-28-09, 11:20
I hope I am not breaking any rules on the board by asking the following. Many of us who use ISG are well familar with Jimmy Regina and his site specifically for Angeles City. It seems his site has been lost. Its to bad if this is the case because this site and his are by far a great resource of information for different reasons. Please forgive me Jackson if I have broken any rules in asking other members this question. I have been a long time contributer to this board and will continue. So what is going on with our comrade Jimmy?
Its working, if you check from inside the PH, some ISPs block his site, you need to use a proxy
Jackzonian
10-29-09, 14:49
Surfing thru the PI thread in advance of a trip, I hope, it seems like there are really A LOT of girls. That is to say, several cities dedicated to their trade. Here is the question for the experts who know both:
Compare Greater Bkk to Greater Manila - which has more girls?
I've been to Bkk lots of times and PI only once. But from what I'm reading here, seems like there are 10 times as many philippina's on the game. Maybe it has something to do with the overall population. PI 90 mill vs Thailand 62 mill. Obviously poverty kicks in first of all. Plus the heavy US presence for a really long time.
I think I just answered my own question. Still appreciate the expert answers. j
China. It has a larger population, and therefore "More girls".
Surfing thru the PI thread in advance of a trip, I hope, it seems like there are really A LOT of girls. That is to say, several cities dedicated to their trade. Here is the question for the experts who know both:
Compare Greater Bkk to Greater Manila - which has more girls?
I've been to Bkk lots of times and PI only once. But from what I'm reading here, seems like there are 10 times as many philippina's on the game. Maybe it has something to do with the overall population. PI 90 mill vs Thailand 62 mill. Obviously poverty kicks in first of all. Plus the heavy US presence for a really long time.
I think I just answered my own question. Still appreciate the expert answers. j
Member #3428
10-29-09, 19:59
Compare Greater Bkk to Greater Manila - which has more girls?
Fuckable girls? Manila. Non pro's you can fuck? Manila.
But Manila is a shit hole. Go somewhere else in PI to monger then MNL. It is a shit hole, overpriced, higher crime. For city wise go to BKK. I prefer to monger in Thai personally but there are benefits to Filipina's and PI. Manila just is not one of the benefits. Unfortunately love it or leave it, Manila is where i work when I am in PI and where I must monger.
Wicked Roger
10-30-09, 06:14
Fuckable girls? Manila. Non pro's you can fuck? Manila.
But Manila is a shit hole. Go somewhere else in PI to monger then MNL. It is a shit hole, overpriced, higher crime. For city wise go to BKK. I prefer to monger in Thai personally but there are benefits to Filipina's and PI. Manila just is not one of the benefits. Unfortunately love it or leave it, Manila is where i work when I am in PI and where I must monger.
Agreed it is a shit hole, but last time we met you seemed to be enjoying your mongering......and the girls were very nice and naughty :D
Member #3428
10-30-09, 08:03
Agreed it is a shit hole, but last time we met you seemed to be enjoying your mongering......and the girls were very nice and naughty :D
Hey I said it was a shit hole but I suffer through :D
Cunning Stunt
10-30-09, 08:42
First time arrivals to Manila might wonder:
1. Why he immediately got a sore throat on leaving the airport?
2. Why the driver of the supposedly metered taxi he jumped in refuses to turn on his meter, mutters ‘traffic, traffic’ (even though its 2 in the morning) and demands 400 pesos flat fare to go to Makati or Ermita?
3. Why, despite being 2am, it still takes an hour to travel 5 kilometers?
4. Why the guys he spots on the streets have bigger beer guts than his? And some of the women also!
5. Why, when he thought he was in exotic SE Asia, he looks out of the taxi window and sees Lagos, Nigeria with miles of shanty towns and mountains of garbage?
6. Why, when he reaches his hotel, he finds they have lost his reservation?
7. Why the guy on reception, says ‘Sir’ with the same tone and intonation that he would say ‘Asshole’?
8. Why, when he reaches his room, he is being charged 3000 pesos a night for a tired, roach infested fleapit that he would not house his dog in, back home?
9. Why the fuck did he come here in the first place?
And then he visits Burgos/EDSA Complex/LA Café and remembers why;).
Member #3428
10-30-09, 09:23
First time arrivals to Manila might wonder:
Why only first time arrivals? I go through that list and more atleast 12 times a year but you leave out the drug and bomb sniffing dogs, the metal detectors you need to go through to get into the lobby of your hotel, and the close personal pat downs the security staff tries to give to every girl I bring back to the room before I even get to pat them down :D
Why the hell do the cute female security guards never pat me down? I avoid going to the mens line and approach the ladies (if they are cute), smile nicely, spread wide and they just giggle and say "it's ok sir..." If I hesitate and lift my leg up like a dog then they laugh even harder at me for some reason. Hey I did get a girls phone number that way one time ;)
My all time favorite is when places hire gay security guards. One of the funniest things I ever saw was late at night going back to the rooms with a guy who has never been to PI before, he got molested / rapped / HJ by an obviously gay guard.
I'm such a good wing man (ok bastard) I just turned and walked away while dying laughing as the guard had his hand on my friends dick. Is there any better way to initiate a newbie to life in MNL?
After telling that story, anyone up for some Makati area time next week let me know....
Cunning Stunt
10-30-09, 09:54
My all time favorite is when places hire gay security guards. One of the funniest things I ever saw was late at night going back to the rooms with a guy who has never been to PI before, he got molested / rapped / HJ by an obviously gay guard.
Gay security patter down? Never come across one of them before. Somebody’s got a malicious sense of humour. Wonder if he works for (pea)nuts?
Mind you the female security guard at my local SM is an awful big, butch looking bruiser. She has the enviable job of patting down those lovely SM check-out girls who with their tightly pulled back black hair, thick makeup and skimpy one piece dresses look like little Filipina versions of Robert Palmer’s back-up band on the single ‘Addicted to Love’. Whooorrrr – bet she gets loads of job satisfaction.
I wonder if anyone could maybe give me some up to date recommendations about flying out of Manila to other parts if the islands (Clark, Davao, Cebu). My flight arrives in Manila mid-evening; but Manila, and getting out by surface, sounds perhaps distinctly missable if at all possible (compared to other places) on a shortish trip. I've looked at the online live flight departures board for Manila but at least one airline disappears into thin air when I search for it (Stryian Airways) and another (Tiger) is offputting because of its frequent flight cancellations. The overland trip to Clark sounds unappealing. Thanks.
It sounds like you want to skip MNL, but you might be better off staying one night if you are arriving at night.
MNL to AC (Clark) by taxi is the best option -- probably costs about 2000 pesos now. I use "Fly the Bus" -- see url below. The last run is 8pm. I can't imagine flying into clark from MNL, but Cebu to Clark makes sense. I also suspect you could get a late flight MNL to Cebu or elsewhere.
Domestic flights are cheap and usually convenient. Any travel agent will be happy to make arrangements. I've usually been able to arrange a flight withing a day or two...sometimes same day.
Airlines: Cebu Pacific, Philippine Air, SEAIR, ???Spirit
***FLY THE BUS http://www2.mozcom.com/~fly-bus/index.htm
X
I wonder if anyone could maybe give me some up to date recommendations about flying out of Manila to other parts if the islands (Clark, Davao, Cebu). My flight arrives in Manila mid-evening; but Manila, and getting out by surface, sounds perhaps distinctly missable if at all possible (compared to other places) on a shortish trip. I've looked at the online live flight departures board for Manila but at least one airline disappears into thin air when I search for it (Stryian Airways) and another (Tiger) is offputting because of its frequent flight cancellations. The overland trip to Clark sounds unappealing. Thanks.
It sounds like you want to skip MNL, but you might be better off staying one night if you are arriving at night.
MNL to AC (Clark) by taxi is the best option -- probably costs about 2000 pesos now. I use "Fly the Bus" -- see url below. The last run is 8pm. I can't imagine flying into clark from MNL, but Cebu to Clark makes sense. I also suspect you could get a late flight MNL to Cebu or elsewhere.
***FLY THE BUS http://www2.mozcom.com/~fly-bus/index.htm
X
many thanks for the info :)
I wonder if anyone could maybe give me some up to date recommendations about flying out of Manila to other parts if the islands (Clark, Davao, Cebu)... The overland trip to Clark sounds unappealing.
My info is not necessarily new but, I can't imagine the PI changing much. There's two airports in Manilla. Riding a cab or bus to AC from Manila airport takes a couple hours. Its neither harrowing nor completely boring but not "unappealing" either. Arriving at AC makes you forget the cab ride quickly. However, going through customs at the airport then going back into the airport or transferring to the other airport and waiting for a flight then arriving at yet another airport is not pomp either. You have allot of posts (and I will read none of them), I assume you are not a rookie. If you want to get out, go to Cebu, go down to dock 8? and take the fast cats to other islands. Again, its been awhile since I've been to the PI but, it will never change. I'm not sure of your references or goals, however. To me, AC is stop #1 in the PI.
Rubberyman
11-01-09, 04:14
I can't imagine flying into clark from MNL, but Cebu to Clark makes sense.
Domestic flights are cheap and usually convenient. Any travel agent will be happy to make arrangements. I've usually been able to arrange a flight withing a day or two...sometimes same day.
Airlines: Cebu Pacific, Philippine Air, SEAIR, ???Spirit
X
Zest air charge about 300P to fly from MNL to CRK - takes half an hour. Mind you, with the airport waiting, security and general hassles, the total time and trouble might not save all that much.
Zest is formerly Asian Spirit.
And Zest have only had two accidents this year where they over- or under-shot the runway. Only a few injuries. And only one total writeoff where every passenger died in the last ten years.
I normally only use CRK and have done so for the past few years. However, this year I have slightly changed travel plans, hence my research on the alternative options to get to MNL which led me to think about Zest.
Have had a quick search for a post I saw months ago re a shopping mall where one may sometimes find freelance ladies. Can someone give an update on which mall and the basic tactics for hunting there.
Member #4214
11-02-09, 07:28
Have had a quick search for a post I saw months ago re a shopping mall where one may sometimes find freelance ladies. Can someone give an update on which mall and the basic tactics for hunting there.
Every mall in the Phils is great for picking up freelancers. Core hunting tactics are the same where ever you go: smile at the girls you like and initiate small talk. Invite them for a drink, or on a date. It is that simple.
Now if you want colorful stories re: different mongers' specific experiences well, you are just going to have to spend more time searching/reading the boards my friend.
Cunning Stunt
11-02-09, 08:10
Have had a quick search for a post I saw months ago re a shopping mall where one may sometimes find freelance ladies. Can someone give an update on which mall and the basic tactics for hunting there.
Had quite a bit of success mall hunting. It requires a bit of patience, a little game and can be quite hit and miss so is best for those with a little time on their hands and a back-up plan (mine is invariably LA Café unless I have arranged to meet a GF).
Harrison Plaza is number 1 for mall trawling, I find, closely followed by Robinsons, Ermita.
Incidentally, I visited Harrison Plaza yesterday and it was closed. Weird. Anyone know why?
You may have been referring to my report at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=832260&postcount=3806
Well, I learned something! Thanks RubberyM.
I remember hearing bad things about A. Spirit, but they are apparently under new ownership. Maybe things have changed. The two things I remember about flying these smaller airlines (I used SEAir to Borocay) is that they fly lower so you get some better views, and the baggage weight limits are lower (15kg?), therefore extra charges.
Zest:
http://www.zestair.com.ph/
X
Zest is formerly Asian Spirit.
I remember about flying these smaller airlines (I used SEAir to Borocay) is that they fly lower so you get some better views,
True. These propeller planes fly between 18,000 and 21,000 feet.
Above that the air is too thin.
(Sorry for OT) :D
Cheers!
Zest Air flight seems to be afternoon, too early for my arriving flight. So my options seem to be taxi or flybus unless I stay over in Manila. Some of the forum posts caution against travelling at night. Is this on account of hold-ups (robberies), such as occur occasionally from Rio in Brasil? Or other scams? Or just a general preference?
Rio?
We've all heard about Rio, so you must have balls of steel.
I suggest a walk from the airport to Ermita.Only a 40 min walk. Find a hotel. Go to La cafe and have some fun....with someone.
Go to AC the next day.
Zest is a soft drink, btw!
Zest Air flight seems to be afternoon, too early for my arriving flight. So my options seem to be taxi or flybus unless I stay over in Manila. Some of the forum posts caution against travelling at night. Is this on account of hold-ups (robberies), such as occur occasionally from Rio in Brasil? Or other scams? Or just a general preference?
Rio?
We've all heard about Rio, so you must have balls of steel.
I suggest a walk from the airport to Ermita.Only a 40 min walk. Find a hotel. Go to La cafe and have some fun....with someone.
Go to AC the next day.
Zest is a soft drink, btw!
cheers, X Man. Don't know about the balls if steel, but they always come in handy. It's always good to know about local dangers and scams (Rio has it's own laws haha). No typhoons there though. I am sincerely hoping Manila has recovered somewhat from its terrible tragedies by the time I get there - travelling overland through waterlogged areas sounds hairy.
My flight arrives early evening (January) which should be a bit drier. But one night in Manila then the overland bus or taxi is maybe better than setting off in an unfamiliar country in the evening.
Thanks again for the information. Any other recent local knowledge all appreciated.
Have had a quick search for a post I saw months ago re a shopping mall where one may sometimes find freelance ladies. Can someone give an update on which mall and the basic tactics for hunting there.
Any mall, any time, any lady. Just smile, and if she smiles back, ask her if you may buy her lunch/dinner, whatever. She has a friend with her?? No problem. Buy for both, see which seems to be the better choice. Now, the really "easy" mall is Robinson's Ermita, across from Palm Plaza Hotel. Another is Harrison's, a short taxi ride away from Robinson's.
I have had older ladies pimping gorgeous "college" girls, girls in groups, in couples, etc. Just DO IT!! You will be surprised how handsome you are.
Had quite a bit of success mall hunting. It requires a bit of patience, a little game and can be quite hit and miss so is best for those with a little time on their hands and a back-up plan (mine is invariably LA Café unless I have arranged to meet a GF).
Harrison Plaza is number 1 for mall trawling, I find, closely followed by Robinsons, Ermita.
Incidentally, I visited Harrison Plaza yesterday and it was closed. Weird. Anyone know why?
You may have been referring to my report at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=832260&postcount=3806Thanks Cunning Stunt . Yes you were spot on. The link was to the original and very helpful report that I had read!
Excellent repot by the way. That is the game I want to try between the nights out.
Thanks also to Mr. Hawaii re the mall info and I will give them both a try on my next visit and will have a report of my own experiance with some luck.
I wonder if I could trouble any forum members for any experience/tips on getting reliably to Singapore, where I have an onward flight booked?
I don't mind spending a day or two in Singapore. But my concern is that the regular airlines are quite prohibitively expensive and the smaller carriers like Cebu Air have a reputation (reading this and other forums) for cancelling international flights without notice.
Credit cards are reported as problemmatic - this mirrors my own experience. I tried to book a flight on Cebu's (admittedly shoddy) website, only for it to gi from 'pending' to 'card rejected'. I tried twice, same result. Checking with my card company, both payments were authorised and debited, though it may be that Cebu's system will reimburse them automatically. I phoned Cebu long distance and they claimed they had not received payment. The flights cost peanuts, but how to get a ticket, and then how to know it's degree of reliability for actually taking off.
My guess is that CRK will be an easier airport to hang out from. If I leave myself enough notice, a cancelled flight might just mean popping back into town and going back the next day (there's one flight a day, and they don't show up on my travel agent's system, just like many super-low-cost bucket/budget flights).
Haven't been to Philippines before so thought I'd ask. Thanks.
Fast Eddie 48
11-04-09, 20:38
I wonder if I could trouble any forum members for any experience/tips on getting reliably to Singapore, where I have an onward flight booked?
I don't mind spending a day or two in Singapore. But my concern is that the regular airlines are quite prohibitively expensive and the smaller carriers like Cebu Air have a reputation (reading this and other forums) for cancelling international flights without notice.
Credit cards are reported as problemmatic - this mirrors my own experience. I tried to book a flight on Cebu's (admittedly shoddy) website, only for it to gi from 'pending' to 'card rejected'. I tried twice, same result. Checking with my card company, both payments were authorised and debited, though it may be that Cebu's system will reimburse them automatically. I phoned Cebu long distance and they claimed they had not received payment. The flights cost peanuts, but how to get a ticket, and then how to know it's degree of reliability for actually taking off.
My guess is that CRK will be an easier airport to hang out from. If I leave myself enough notice, a cancelled flight might just mean popping back into town and going back the next day (there's one flight a day, and they don't show up on my travel agent's system, just like many super-low-cost bucket/budget flights).
Haven't been to Philippines before so thought I'd ask. Thanks.Christopherd
Try tiger air they have one flight a day out of clark to Singapore, cost is cheap if you book online, it is better if you go to manila for a few days more flight option there.
Fast Eddie 48
Cunning Stunt
11-05-09, 02:45
I wonder if I could trouble any forum members for any experience/tips on getting reliably to Singapore, where I have an onward flight booked?
No need to fly Cebu Pacific, Chris. Tiger Air has a daily flight out of Clark, which is both cheap and reliable. If you wish to travel to/from Manila, Jetstar has a daily service.
Actually, I think CP has improved their website and their international credit card acceptance seems to be much better, The last 2 flight that I booked with them were problem free. Did you enter the full name of the issuing bank and their contact number. I think little details such as these can be the difference between success and failure. Also helps if you are enrolled in the cards security verification scheme (i.e verified by visa).
The thing that I have against CP is the godawful timing of most of their international flights. They must be the preferred airline for vampires:).
The flights cost peanuts, but how to get a ticket, and then how to know it's degree of reliability for actually taking off.
As you state, reliability is the worry. I had no problems getting a ticket online recently, Cebu Pacific,£133 Bangkok - Manila return. Just hope we get off the ground.
These are the options I can see. Tiger doesn't look much more reliable than Cebu, but hanging around CRK for a day seems less hassle than a trip to MNL and back and forth if no suitable flights. Thanks again.
Dep 12:40hrs CRK
TR 795 Arr 16:05hrs SIN
(Tiger Airways)
57USD
Clark to Singapore
Cebu Air 537
12:20H arr 15:40H
certain days only
PHP 3,334.00 inc tax
Singapore Air MNL-SIN is USD312
Jetstar MNL-SIN is £76
dep 04:15 arr 07:45 MNL-SIN
The Rooster1
11-05-09, 22:26
First time arrivals to Manila might wonder:
1. Why he immediately got a sore throat on leaving the airport?
2. Why the driver of the supposedly metered taxi he jumped in refuses to turn on his meter, mutters ‘traffic, traffic’ (even though its 2 in the morning) and demands 400 pesos flat fare to go to Makati or Ermita?
3. Why, despite being 2am, it still takes an hour to travel 5 kilometers?
4. Why the guys he spots on the streets have bigger beer guts than his? And some of the women also!
5. Why, when he thought he was in exotic SE Asia, he looks out of the taxi window and sees Lagos, Nigeria with miles of shanty towns and mountains of garbage?
6. Why, when he reaches his hotel, he finds they have lost his reservation?
7. Why the guy on reception, says ‘Sir’ with the same tone and intonation that he would say ‘Asshole’?
8. Why, when he reaches his room, he is being charged 3000 pesos a night for a tired, roach infested fleapit that he would not house his dog in, back home?
9. Why the fuck did he come here in the first place?
And then he visits Burgos/EDSA Complex/LA Café and remembers why;).Good comments, except about the PI looking like Lagos, Nigeria. It was funny, but absolutely incorrect. Spend some time in Lagos and tell me it looks like the PI. All 3rd world countries have a similar look in the poor parts, but doesn't have anything to do with the attitude and the people located within. I have spent time in Lagos and it is my #1 shithole spot I have ever been in! I live in the PI and would NEVER, EVER, EVER, consider rolling in Lagos. CS, please be accurate in your statements.
Peace out!
FreebieFan
11-06-09, 00:55
[QUOTE=The Rooster. CS, please be accurate in your statements.
Peace out![/QUOTE]There now CS , you have been told. Further examples of such inaccuracy will not be tolerated.
Looks like we got us a new expert both on Manila and on 3rd World comparative studies.
Cunning Stunt
11-06-09, 09:47
There now CS , you have been told. Further examples of such inaccuracy will not be tolerated.
LOL ... :D. Naughty me ... slap wrist, I promise to try harder in future.
Mind you, if this statement is to be believed, I sure wasn't too far out as few would argue that Manila is a top grade shit hole. So Manila is the Lagos of Asia... or does that honour go to Jakarta?
I have spent time in Lagos and it is my #1 shithole spot I have ever been in!
that Manila is a top grade shit hole. So Manila is the Lagos of Asia... or does that honour go to Jakarta?
My recommendation would be Phnom Penh.
Cheers!
Wicked Roger
11-06-09, 10:45
I have spent time in Lagos and it is my #1 shithole spot I have ever been in!
Peace out!
Just to add my bit....
Having been to Lagos many many times it is my least favourite place to revisit (unless the company ask me..and pay me a lot). Manila is also bad but at least I find some nice pussy there which I never find in Lagos (Africans not my flavour) and thus the while being a shit hole the girls at least help me forget how bad it is :D
Jakarta sucks but is OK at times, Cairo is a shit hole too IMHO, parts of Pakistan pretty bad as is Calcutta but all have some 'redeeming' factors that Lagos never has
OK that's me done and I will now try to get back to writing about shaved pussy and the more cerebral matters of Filipinas ;)
The Rooster1
11-06-09, 17:03
There now CS , you have been told. Further examples of such inaccuracy will not be tolerated.
Looks like we got us a new expert both on Manila and on 3rd World comparative studies.Thats free advice for you Mr. Fan. I'm definitely not an expert, but have spent quite a bit of time in 3rd world countries and know a shithole when I see one. I have even spent time in Karachi, Pakistan and that comes a close second. I say this with a smile and no offense to you and the CS as I'm just about ready to head out to the Soi Cowboy and get a BJ. My company decided to send me here for 62 days, I'm so sad. I will get a BJ for you too!
Peace out!
Just recently, some 2 weeks ago, I went to HSBC, where I have a primary Premier account. With ID of course.
Asked them to open an account with HSBC Manila for me.
The lady copied passport, asked many questions for filling an online form and told me thats it. Took 30 mins.
Yesterday got a debit card from HSBC Manila, which works also as ATM card.
Also got info about account number and so on.
Today received PIN number for ATM and one for phone banking.
With this I can now register for Internet banking and then
account opening is done.
Pretty easy going.
Cheers!
Michael Morris
11-23-09, 04:06
I can only make one trip to asia next year. Cost is not the most consideration. I would like an experienced Mongers opionon of which is the best place for an enjoyable time, manely with girls, quality lookers.
Redfield10
11-23-09, 07:28
No contest for me. I'd go to Thailand. The girls are cuter, in my opinion. The country is much nicer. The food is way better. Manila is actually a dangerous place. I feel completely safe in all parts of Bangkok and Pattaya. Not so at all Manila.
There will be those that disagree with me. But you asked for my opinion. If I were to guess. I'd say 80% of mongers prefer Thailand with 20% preferring the Phils. I will say that if you go to the Phils, go straight to AC do now waste your time in Manila.
I can only make one trip to asia next year. Cost is not the most consideration. I would like an experienced Mongers opionon of which is the best place for an enjoyable time, manely with girls, quality lookers.
I can only make one trip to asia next year. Cost is not the most consideration. I would like an experienced Mongers opionon of which is the best place for an enjoyable time, manely with girls, quality lookers.
Just wanted to post a heads up to all the guys in Angeles right now. I was violently attacked on First Street on Saturday Night. I was walking back with my live-in from Chow King after a night of videoke. It was about 1:30 am or so. We were walking back to my place on First Street. I know I should always take a trike at that time of night and I'll never make that mistake again. Anyways, we were both pretty drunk when we walked past 5-6 filipinos guys on the street. One of them said "hey", I turned around and he slammed a rock into my right eye. I fell to the ground and then about three of them started kicking me and beating the shit out of me, while my live in GF was screaming and trying to get them off of me. I offered them my money and my cell phone to stop them beating me, but they didn't take it! Luckily, some guy on a motorcyle rushed up and honked his horn and scared them away.
I was bleeding really bad from right under my right eye and my face, so they guy on the moto took us to the police station. I ended up passing out in the police station and my live in later said she thought I had died. I guess I had lost a lot of blood becuase I had to rest at the station for a while before I could go out with the cops to find the guys who beat me. I IDed three of the six but I wasn't really sure with two of the guys, as these filipinio punks all looked the same to me with their wife beaters, shorts and flip flops. I went to the hospital afterwards to get stitches under my eye. Today I am going to see an opthamologist to make sure there is no permanent damage to my eye, but I think I will be ok, as there is no pain or vision problems.
Anyways, there is much more to this story but I'm not going to get into the details regarding the police reports, prosecutor's office, talking to the family members of the guys, mothers, fathers, cousins, godparents etc. ("they are good boys, trust us!"). But I have learned my lesson to take trikes at all times at night, even if it's going two minutes away to Joliebee. And even during the day now I think I will take Jeepneys everywhere as well.
Be careful out there, ISGers.
Just be careful in the area around the Executive Plaza. As I was walking back from L. A. Cafe I was robbed. Manila is much more dangerous than, say, Bangkok. So beware.
A few weeks ago, I was hassled by a couple of bottom feeders on Pedro Gil, near the police outstation …lol. I am fairly tall and fit (for my age) and can look after myself so am used to giving short shrift to the usual shit you get on the street in that locale. But my trouble radar went bleep and I thought that I was been set up for a potential mugging so I made a lot of noise and looked threatening (as much as I can) and the guys backed off and moved on.
For the girls, food, quality of hotels and everything else....Go to Thailand.
FreebieFan
11-23-09, 08:23
for the girls, food, quality of hotels and everything else. go to thailand.how to get your ass kicked in thailand
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at titanium the other night and watched a drunk american get the shit kicked out of him. not just by thai men but by thai women too!
this poor fellow was having a good time. dancing, laughing, ass grabbing with 3-4 of the titanium hostesses/waitresses. of course, he had been buying ladydrinks for all those cute girls for several hours and he went nuts when he was presented with his bill for the night.
i don't know how big his bill was, but i bet it was upwards of 20,000 to 30,000 baht. titanium is not one of those ripoff karaoke bars but it is easy to ring up that much of a bill when you're buying ladydrinks for 3-4 girls for a couple hours.
the guy started screaming, throws the bill in the waitresses face, wildly waving his arms, and refusing to pay.
a couple stout thai bouncers dragged him outside and by the time he hit the pavement, he was getting kicked by tuk tuk drivers, waitresses, bouncers, and even some stranger who just happened to be walking down the street.
if you come over here and act like you jerk, you are running a good chance of getting your ass kicked. including women! this ain't america
or
bangkok police
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just a quick comment/ question. i live in the pi and i am working here in bangkok now and just starting to get a little familiar with how things are here. i had an incident the other night that has me curious. my co-worker and i took a couple girls from soi cowboy and were heading back to the hotel when we were flagged down and pulled over by police at an aparent road check. we were all told to get out and i directly walked away and stood on the curb like i have done in the past in other parts of the world. they searched my co-worker pretty well even as far as smelling the cigarettes in his cig pack. the two girls were searched physically also and bags gone through very closely and id's checked for a few minutes. they didn't bother me until they were ready to go and i just jumped in the taxi.
is this an every night occurance around the city? i assumed they were looking for drugs. and as i found out, on another occasion, there was a 17 yr old girl working in one of the bars in soi cowboy and plainly showed me her bar id. is this normal as well? sure would of been pretty pissed off if the girls we were taking had a little stash of shabu or something and were ****. especially since they came out of a bar.
peace out!
and then theres a whle series of videos on you tube, about thailand and foreigners in jail in thailand. (posted somewhere on bkk board). both places have got challenges if you are the wrong person in wrong place at wrong time. both places can equally be wonderful.
Cunning Stunt
11-23-09, 10:10
Don’t underestimate the dangers in Thailand. Robbery, particularly by ladyboys, is a hazard on Sukhumvit (ask Barko) and the beating of tourists by local scumbags is common in Pattaya/Phuket, which also has many druggings, muggings and unexplained deaths by ‘accident/suicide’.
Thailand is a more ‘user friendly’ environment for the tourist and the providers can be beautiful if sometimes a little too mechanical and professional for my taste these days. Filipinas are more girlfriendly and you have much more chance of 'freebies' but the infrastructure/food/travel can really suck, particularly in Manila and Angeles.
You pays your money …etc.
I'd like to open a bank account. Preferably a USD account and a peso account with a main bank where I can access my money(pesos) through atm machines throughout the country.
Anyone have any suggestions? What other than a passport is needed?
Marconista
11-24-09, 00:11
Absolutely!
Let the rest of us take care of all the beautiful and friendly ladies of the RP. And We Are Already" :)
For the girls, food, quality of hotels and everything else....Go to Thailand.
Absolutely!
Let the rest of us take care of all the beautiful and friendly ladies of the RP. And We Are Already" :)
LOL. Marconista my post was pure sarcasm just poking fun at these guys who seem to run into trouble in PI. I probably never go back to Thailand. I have ran around both countries (PI: 2004, Thailand: 2006) for the last few years and so far trouble free....
Might be because Warbucks Ghetto Pass is worldwide though.
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ghetto+pass
Cunning Stunt
11-24-09, 04:31
How to get your ass kicked in Thailand
And then theres a whle series of videos on you tube, about Thailand and foreigners in jail in Thailand. (posted somewhere on BKK board). Both places have got challenges if you are the wrong person in wrong place at wrong time. Both places can equally be wonderful.
You ought to try and catch a recent Bravo series called ‘Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand.’ When things go pear shaped in LOS, there are no half measures!
Lots of footage of the aftermath of mongers who have had the shit kicked out of them by Thai thugs and bargirls. I am sure that our more ‘sarcastic’ members would ‘get dat nut’ big time over that;).
FreebieFan
11-24-09, 05:21
You ought to try and catch a recent Bravo series called 'Big Trouble in Tourist Thailand. ' When things go pear shaped in LOS, there are no half measures!
Lots of footage of the aftermath of mongers who have had the shit kicked out of them by Thai thugs and bargirls. I am sure that our more 'sarcastic' members would 'get that nut' big time over that.Theres a story, and supposedly a video to match, about a guy gettting the faecal matter kicked out of him by ladyboys in BKK. Now, we all think that ladyboys mince around with angular hips etc. Imagine 5 of them viciously attacking you. Seems theres a bridge under Sukhumvit (BKK) where they gather and occasionally get into a little "aggro" if a punter abuses them.
Can't say I've ever heard of a bakla attack in PI.
White Whale
11-24-09, 06:15
I can only make one trip to asia next year. Cost is not the most consideration. I would like an experienced Mongers opionon of which is the best place for an enjoyable time, manely with girls, quality lookers.
Not an opinion but how my story has gone: I started my mongering not so long time ago eof 2007 from Phuket. After that many times in Pattya and Bangkok. Last four visits in AC and Subic Bay area. I still have fun time in Bangkok but only when waiting for connecting flight to AC. I am very GFE oriented. I hope you do not pump up prices too high. Koreans are already doing that.
I'd like to open a bank account. Preferably a USD account and a peso account with a main bank where I can access my money(pesos) through atm machines throughout the country.
Anyone have any suggestions? What other than a passport is needed?
If you are non-resident in the Philippines, and therefore don't have the an certificate of residence from immigration, I would suggest trying HSBC. I am here on a tourist visa, which I extend every two months, and soon after I arrived I went into HSBC Ayala Branch, and walked out 45 minutes later with a USD acct, a Peso account, an ATM/Visa card and an online banking login id/password. All very easy and painless.
Mantaray
What is the minimum account balance?
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If you are non-resident in the Philippines, and therefore don't have the an certificate of residence from immigration, I would suggest trying HSBC. I am here on a tourist visa, which I extend every two months, and soon after I arrived I went into HSBC Ayala Branch, and walked out 45 minutes later with a USD acct, a Peso account, an ATM/Visa card and an online banking login id/password. All very easy and painless.
Mantaray
If you are non-resident in the Philippines, and therefore don't have the an certificate of residence from immigration, I would suggest trying HSBC. I am here on a tourist visa, which I extend every two months, and soon after I arrived I went into HSBC Ayala Branch, and walked out 45 minutes later with a USD acct, a Peso account, an ATM/Visa card and an online banking login id/password. All very easy and painless.
Mantaray
Questions,
1. Did you carry cash and opened those accounts?
2. Which country are you from?
3. What sort of questions did they ask?
4. Did you have to say you have plans to settle in PHI, open business
or any other kind of excuses?
5. Do you have a permanent residence address in PHI or own a condo,house?
or you can open account with foreign address?
6. Did you have to go with a local for vouching any of your declarations?
If you are non-resident in the Philippines, and therefore don't have the an certificate of residence from immigration, I would suggest trying HSBC. I am here on a tourist visa, which I extend every two months, and soon after I arrived I went into HSBC Ayala Branch, and walked out 45 minutes later with a USD acct, a Peso account, an ATM/Visa card and an online banking login id/password. All very easy and painless.
Mantaray
What paperwork were you asked for? Did you need to provide proof of address?
The branch you are talking about is in manila, yah?
GregLondon
11-25-09, 11:28
What is the DIA website?
http://www.dateinasia.com/
It's a totally free dating site ie you can send as many messages as you like to anyone on the site for free. 80% of the girls there are from Phils, and most will eagerly reply to any half way (maybe quarter way) decent guy. Maybe 5% of the girls on there are shemales/ladyboys so if thats not your thing you should be at pains to say so.
Maybe 50% of the girls there - at least of the ones with the more glamorous photos are "semi pros" ie either working full time (at least during peak US time) trying to generate webcam business either as part of a professional site (anything involving go to this site the credit card info is just for age verification etc etc) or just girls at home or a net cafe willing (or claiming that they are willing) to do a private show - typically requesting $25 to be sent via zoom to pay for a cam/private room/or to help with expenses etc. Another favoured tactic is to request money up front either for a sob story or to buy a ticket to see you etc. If you send any money in advance in 75% of cases you won't get any return on it.
The ultimate goal of the vast majority of girls on the site is to find a foreign guy to marry her and preferably take her out of the Philippines and give her and her (generally extensive) family a secure financial future, before she is passed it (In Phils a girl over about 27 is considered over the hill by many).
Some of them are genuinely holding on to their virginity for a Mr Right (or a guy posing as Mr Right.), but maybe at least half are up for a more casual assignment. For girls 18-28 and assuming you are not a handsome 30 year old (and in any case many prefer older guys), some sort of financial compensation for sex will be expected or at least hoped for. Depending on the girl/situation this may range from a straightforward discussion (P500 for a couple of hours and P1000 for all night) would be considered the non generous going rate - some girls will expect considerably more if they are familiar with bar prices, an over sized here's some money for a taxi keep the change, or a trip to the mall to buy an MP3 player or cell phone etc, or an all expenses paid trip to the beaches etc.
Girls saying they are not interested in money will typically be playing a long game of trying to hook you for a live in situation or marriage so expect much more emotional entanglement/jealousy and mind games.
If you are visiting the Phils remember it's a very big place (in terms of travel times) and there are cute girls just about everywhere. The best tactic will typically be to figure out where you want to go and search for girls in that city/or surrounding towns rather than a more general search and contemplating going a trip to Zamboanga or Bislig etc (lots of keen girls from populous towns such as these which get very few foreign vistors - demand and supply).
If you plan a trip to Phils always come with a Plan B and C, D , E and F as the some girls can be a bit flaky. If you are into 3 somes etc maybe 10% of the girls on DIA are up for that with a further 20% persuadable. Some will have a network of hot friends that they are willing to introduce (esp if they know you are paying 500/1000 each.) others prefer to do it with girls they've never met before.
The pay sites such as Philipina Heart and Cherry Blossoms have maybe 5% of the numbers that DIA has, but the sites have more pics and more functionality and arguably filter out the less serious.
The other key free Phils sites are:
Tagged
which has lots of pics, free messaging, location/age searching and where it is almost as easy as with DIA to generate leads and Friendster where 90% of Philipinas store their photo collection.
Hope this is useful.
Greg
Questions,
1. Did you carry cash and opened those accounts?
2. Which country are you from?
3. What sort of questions did they ask?
4. Did you have to say you have plans to settle in PHI, open business
or any other kind of excuses?
5. Do you have a permanent residence address in PHI or own a condo,house?
or you can open account with foreign address?
6. Did you have to go with a local for vouching any of your declarations?
OK, to answer your questions, in order:
1. Yes, I carried cash to open those accts, and if I remember correctly, I needed 100,000 pesos (or equivalent)
2. I'm from the US, but my permanent residence is in Japan
3. They asked me if I was resident in the Philippines (it didn't matter that I was not), and they asked me in which country I had a permanent address
4. No, no excuses were necessary. HSBC bills itself as 'the world's local bank', and it seems they try to live up to that image. By the way, I should also mention that HSBC, unlike the other Philippine banks I went to (BNP, Metro Bank. BPI, BDO, Citibank), were willing to open a checking acct for me on the spot.
5. I did have a permanent address in the Philippines as I had just found a condo to rent. But I don't think that made a difference, especially as virtually all the banking that I now do with HSBC is online--other than physically go to ATMs to withdraw cash.
6. No, I went alone and they did not ask for any local 'sponsor'.
Perhaps the only (minor) downside to HSBC, is that compared to the other Philippine banks, they have fewer branches and hence fewer ATMs throughout the country. This means that you may have to pay a slight service charge when you withdraw cash from other banks' ATMs.
Hope this helps...
Mantaray
What is the DIA website?
Just want to add couple of things.
1. If the Pic is photoshopped like a portrait it is fake.
Most ladyboys use these pics if they do not say in their profile.
If indeed it is a girl you will be surprised how ugly she is compared to her pic.
2. 90% of the girls will ask for money.
3. They all call you honey or baby and I love you etc in spite of no meeting.
4. Yes, you can get lucky but that does not mean they are former bargirls.
5. Many will lie saying no children but in fact they may have one or two.
Warning- Never send any money for any reason unless you want to play
gambling game.
http://www.Dateinasia. Com/
If you are visiting the Phils remember it's a very big place (in terms of travel times) and there are cute girls just about everywhere. The best tactic will typically be to figure out where you want to go and search for girls in that city/or surrounding towns rather than a more general search and contemplating going a trip to Zamboanga or Bislig etc (lots of keen girls from populous towns such as these which get very few foreign vistors. Demand and supply).Greg,
That is a truly brilliant report on internet dating the Phils. I can tell you have alot of lessons learned from past experience. I am sure this will save someone else alot of headaches.
I want to re-emphasize the point above. Every first timer I have ever met on his way to the PI falls for the diamond in the rough that lives in the middle of nowhere. You can insert your own terrible ending to what happens when the guy finally treks half way across the universe to meet the girl.
Best to plan where you will go in advance of chatting with the girls. Once that is established only speak to girls from that vicinity. Do not fall for the "I will travel to so and so to meet you", because the girl never shows and always needs money in advance to get there!
3. They asked me if I was resident in the Philippines (it didn't matter that I was not), and they asked me in which country I had a permanent address
5. I did have a permanent address in the Philippines as I had just found a condo to rent. But I don't think that made a difference, especially as virtually all the banking that I now do with HSBC is online
Did you have to provide any paperwork? Utility bill, bank statement showing address?
Can you just walk in with only a valid passport and open the account?
Thanks.
Did you have to provide any paperwork? Utility bill, bank statement showing address?
Can you just walk in with only a valid passport and open the account?
Thanks.
I seem to remember having to show them two picture id's, one being my passport, and the other being my California drivers license. Interestingly, they were happy to accept my CA drivers license even though I was giving them Japan as my permanent address.
Mantaray
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