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Kiwi 69
09-06-10, 23:29
Wow…these last few reports are making depressing reading!

Let’s lighten things up a little before I think about jumping off a bridge somewhere!You have indeed !! Great photos and really cute girls.

Now, which shot will be my new screen saver ?!

Thanks!

Starchild2012
09-07-10, 12:29
Wow…these last few reports are making depressing reading!
Let’s lighten things up a little before I think about jumping off a bridge somewhere!

I am posting the following on this thread as it is mainly about my very recent experience of using DIA and Cherry Blossoms, although I admit that one or two sections are in reference to areas not associated with these two sites and associated experiences! So please bear with me if you think they should be posted elsewhere!
It is a pretty rambling post and doesn’t really lend itself to being dissected it into it’s component parts and posted in other possibly more relevant sections.


great report Bonker...i didn't know about the blood thing and soaked a nice mattress full of red dots with a virgin in Manila....only option i had was to turn over the mattress and hope the condo owner would not find out untill i left..he did not inspect it throughly...even thought i felt bad and gave the money for other reasons.

PH is a paradise as long as we play our cards right and have money. if for for a moment we comprise on rules...things could get ugly real fast...i will personally would not want to live anywhere accept PH

Starchild2012
09-07-10, 12:34
Well, two somewhat good news, with one of them possibly turning into a major win if our friend Lim ends up actually being fired (which I would doubt very much).

First is that the Alfredo Lim who is the Tourism secretary is not the Alfredo Lim who is the Mayor of Manila and the scourge of mongers. And for a reason. One is ALBERTO and the other is ALFREDO. I don't know if I made the mistake reading, or the article made the mistake writing. Either way the confusion is quickly made.

Well, at least something. It did seem to me unorthodox that someone would hold two major hats. The proof is in the photo here (beware long URL):

http://www.apimages.com/OneUp.aspx?st=k&ids=Philippines%20Bus%20Hostages&showact=details&sort=date&prds=10135&cfas=PERSON_FEATURED_NAME&sh=101&kwstyle=or&adte=1283580513&pagez=60&cfasstyle=AND&PERSON_FEATURED_NAME=%22Alfredo%20Lim%22&rids=c4dcb1e88dc54f42828657e02a993913&dbm=PThirtyDay&page=1&xslt=1

The second news is that Lim (the mayor) is in deep shit now with the hostage crisis. Hopefully it will lead to his dismissal - thought that's probably as likely to happen as him winning the miss universe contest - but one can always dream... If it happens I'll make a big big big celebration. No sure what yet, but it will involve lots of pussies and possibly the new LA/Manila Bay Cafe.

A good URL summarizing the situation, done in a spirit I can empathize with is at http://sites.google.com/site/alfredolim2/home

Denom...Yeah... Manila mayor Lim is responsible for most of the bad call...all senate hearing and investigation point to his bad decision one after the other...if he does not go ..some one has to....As you said its unlikely he will be fired.....but everyday we get news of his involvement which led to the crisis.

Starchild2012
09-07-10, 19:07
Another tragic news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309748/Briton-64-gunned-wife-near-Philippines-beach-owned.html#ixzz0ylpilfkW

It was just yesterday that a Brit was murdered by a jealous BF.....seems like the mafia has got a free hand now...Guys this should be made a breaking story like the hongkong people did...tourist safety MUST be of priority for p-noy.

i really hope British government does what the hong kongers did to take them to task..

Econo Tech
09-08-10, 04:03
Another tragic news

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1309748/Briton-64-gunned-wife-near-Philippines-beach-owned.html#ixzz0ylpilfkW

It was just yesterday that a Brit was murdered by a jealous BF.....seems like the mafia has got a free hand now...Guys this should be made a breaking story like the hongkong people did...tourist safety MUST be of priority for p-noy.

i really hope British government does what the hong kongers did to take them to task..Relax mate: according to the cops, it was a simple robbery gone bad.

Well, actually a few days before the HK stuff, a Korean Pastor was shot dead in Manila, and it didn't even stay as top news for more than a day. And all that the filipinos were screaming was "Stop Publishing such news that Tarnishes Our Country's Image" and I guess the tourism dept is listening.

FreebieFan
09-09-10, 05:30
Relax mate: according to the cops, it was a simple robbery gone bad.

Well, actually a few days before the HK stuff, a Korean Pastor was shot dead in Manila, and it didn't even stay as top news for more than a day. And all that the filipinos were screaming was "Stop Publishing such news that Tarnishes Our Country's Image" and I guess the tourism dept is listening.Having been in HK yesterday they are still endlessly reporting on "latest developments " of the hostage event. Newspapers, magazines, TV.

Econo Tech
09-09-10, 12:24
Having been in HK yesterday they are still endlessly reporting on "latest developments " of the hostage event. Newspapers, magazines, TV.I don't blame them considering enough filipinos quickly pointing out to the madman's murder of a Filipino couple in Beijing years ago, as excuse to the hostage situation, and more than enough keep repeating the words "WE SAID SORRY-NOW MOVE ON. ".

Whereas filipinos don't forget when a Filipino gets into trouble anywhere (example. Their quoting the Beijing Beijing incident even now, and compiling lists of China's human rights violations. And all things negative against China, and if that is not enough, violently protesting Donald Tsangs calling PNoy. As Donald Tsang apparently is he equivalent of Manila Mayor and he didn't follow protocol. So there you have it!)

Life is never boring in Philippines Islands.

Fast Eddie 48
09-13-10, 00:09
I don't blame them considering enough filipinos quickly pointing out to the madman's murder of a Filipino couple in Beijing years ago, as excuse to the hostage situation, and more than enough keep repeating the words "WE SAID SORRY-NOW MOVE ON. ".

Whereas filipinos don't forget when a Filipino gets into trouble anywhere (example. Their quoting the Beijing Beijing incident even now, and compiling lists of China's human rights violations. And all things negative against China, and if that is not enough, violently protesting Donald Tsangs calling PNoy. As Donald Tsang apparently is he equivalent of Manila Mayor and he didn't follow protocol. So there you have it!)

Life is never boring in Philippines Islands.To Econo tech

The Philippine people and business will suffer more than the goverment will, most foriegner will think twice to book their next trip to Manila after seeing how the manila police handle the hostage, what happen in Bejing is out of the Chinese goverment hand but the Philippine goverment should able to handle the HK hostage better, they are now the laughing stock in the world.

Fast Eddie 48

Econo Tech
09-13-10, 08:31
To Econo tech

The Philippine people and business will suffer more than the goverment will, most foriegner will think twice to book their next trip to Manila after seeing how the manila police handle the hostage, what happen in Bejing is out of the Chinese goverment hand but the Philippine goverment should able to handle the HK hostage better, they are now the laughing stock in the world.

Fast Eddie 48I don't think the filipinos give a flying fuck about the loss. They are only worried about loss of face, and if they can equate China's human rights records and all as an excuse to the slaughter, I guess you know how they think. To add to that: enough proud filipinas have decided to cancel their work contracts to HK. Like we rather starve than be humiliated. And in the process have made themselves as victims, and not the dead tourists.

Welcome to Philippines Islands. I will kill you, but I will spin a yarn and then make myself the victim. What else can you expect from a country that says Marcos' Billions of US$ are still missing, and then votes in Imelda, the son and daughter. And say that they should be forgiven.

Enough filipinos harp saying "China. MOVE ON, DON"T BULLY US". And some are calling for the suspension of the investigation as the HK police was involved.

What more could you expect from a country where the democratic process is so good, a cop with witnesses of his crime is demanding a chance to present himself and clear his name. Even with solid evidence, and the country feels it is fair. And likewise the last PNP police nominee, who had prior case of kidnapping of some HK people still claims he must be given a chance to clear his name (what I can't figure out is. With witnesses and being caught red handed, they demand a chance and lo and behold, they do get their chance.)

Time only will tell when they start thinking logically. Ever.

Econo Tech
09-13-10, 09:00
For some serious reading:

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/09/09/10/former-manila-cop-chief-still-facing-drug-bribery-charge

The defense of the 'one day' police chief is that due process wasn't followed .. regardless of the crime .. that is a cause for dismissal ..

I wonder how the HK people felt when the 1 day chief was already qualified for his job for having proven his worth with the previous cases

Fast Eddie 48
09-15-10, 19:21
I don't think the filipinos give a flying fuck about the loss. They are only worried about loss of face, and if they can equate China's human rights records and all as an excuse to the slaughter, I guess you know how they think. To add to that: enough proud filipinas have decided to cancel their work contracts to HK. Like we rather starve than be humiliated. And in the process have made themselves as victims, and not the dead tourists.

Welcome to Philippines Islands. I will kill you, but I will spin a yarn and then make myself the victim. What else can you expect from a country that says Marcos' Billions of US$ are still missing, and then votes in Imelda, the son and daughter. And say that they should be forgiven.

Enough filipinos harp saying "China. MOVE ON, DON"T BULLY US". And some are calling for the suspension of the investigation as the HK police was involved.

What more could you expect from a country where the democratic process is so good, a cop with witnesses of his crime is demanding a chance to present himself and clear his name. Even with solid evidence, and the country feels it is fair. And likewise the last PNP police nominee, who had prior case of kidnapping of some HK people still claims he must be given a chance to clear his name (what I can't figure out is. With witnesses and being caught red handed, they demand a chance and lo and behold, they do get their chance.)

Time only will tell when they start thinking logically. Ever.Econo,

What proud Philipinas rather work the bar back home than working at a nice home in HK to stand up for their country come on ,most people in PI hate the government and the police and everyone want to leave this shit hole to other country for a better live and I don't blame them ,if this country are willing to help their people and clean up the corpution there will be more foriegn investment and more job for the people.

The PI government don't think long term just know to put money in their own pocket and scam foriegner ,I think HK should protest by sent all the Philipinas back to PI.



fast eddei 48

Rubberyman
09-15-10, 23:00
Folks, you have to remember that a lot of this is all coming from the Media.

Just think what an impression foreigners would get of us in our countries if they got their ideas about us from such sources as Fox News or any of the Murdoch tabloids from around the world.

In fact, I DO know people who quote Fox News as proof that people in the US are not quite right in the head. This is quite the opposite to how I have found people from the US who I have met personally and have quite enjoyed their company.

Remember the saying: "Is it true, or did you see it on Fox News?"

Just because tabloid news is saying this stuff means only one thing - there really isn't enough real news out there to report, and it is dirt cheap for the editors to keep this going without having to go out with expensive camera crews and reporters and find some real news.

Amavida
09-16-10, 02:04
I don't think the filipinos give a flying fuck about the loss. They are only worried about loss of face...
I agree with you. Thats how they think.

Just in case you think its a novelty for police operations to go bad in PI, here is an example of a police office being shot dead by his own guys during a raid last week... in Australia

http://aussiecriminals.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/police-officer-shot-in-head-during-drug-raid/

AV

Econo Tech
09-16-10, 12:33
What proud Philipinas rather work the bar back home than working at a nice home in HK to stand up for their country come on ,most people in PI hate the government and the police and everyone want to leave this shit hole to other country for a better live and I don't blame them ,if this country are willing to help their people and clean up the corpution there will be more foriegn investment and more job for the people.No kidding mate. They will slit their throats than speak sensibly.

After all people voted Pnoy in because he is a sad guy, his father was killed, his mom died.. Etc. Etc. No kidding.

And add to it, Marcos was fined 230K US as fine for stealing, as if that's going to hurt them, and Mama Marcos is representing RP for a UN Conferene, and Marcos Jr is poised to be the next president, and even Estrada won enough votes. Because "he seem like nice guy. "

And while Gloria is not a clean sheet, she did a lot for the economy, but who cares? We better have the Marcos in power, despite their billions of stolen money still unaccounted.

Welcome to Phil

Atleast such comedies keep things cheaper, and if not for the slightly unsafe environs, I am sure, that country will overtake Thailand for cheap mongerers.

Fast Eddie 48
09-17-10, 08:19
No kidding mate. They will slit their throats than speak sensibly.

After all people voted Pnoy in because he is a sad guy, his father was killed, his mom died.. Etc. Etc. No kidding.

And add to it, Marcos was fined 230K US as fine for stealing, as if that's going to hurt them, and Mama Marcos is representing RP for a UN Conferene, and Marcos Jr is poised to be the next president, and even Estrada won enough votes. Because "he seem like nice guy. "

And while Gloria is not a clean sheet, she did a lot for the economy, but who cares? We better have the Marcos in power, despite their billions of stolen money still unaccounted.

Welcome to Phil

Atleast such comedies keep things cheaper, and if not for the slightly unsafe environs, I am sure, that country will overtake Thailand for cheap mongerers.Econo,

Mongering pros and cons

PI
Pro cheap GFE good exchange rate
Con unsafe crooked government and police

Thailand
Pro easy access to actions safe country friendly people
Con girl with attuide bad exchange rate and getting more expensive

China
Pro cheap lovely girl I speak Chinese big plus for me
Con crack down price is going up

Brazil
Pro hot sexy woman with hot body best in bed
Con bad exchange rate and very expensive

Indoneasia
Pro hot woman very good value good exchange rate
Con girl with attuide no GFE crooked pimp and scam unsafe

Cambodia
Pro pretty hot viet girl cheap price
Con dirty shit hole country girl lack of experience un safe country

Just my IMHO anyone care to add to this

Fast Eddie 8

Undakovabrotha
09-17-10, 19:11
Is it safe in South? I know they were kidnapping folks at one time.

Radical Guy
09-17-10, 19:43
Is it safe in South? I know they were kidnapping folks at one time.

It depends where in the south you go. I visit Davao frequently and have always felt safe. Just don't bring attention to yourself unnecessarily, and stay in the main areas. Use normal caution, just like in any major city.

Luckyguy7198
09-17-10, 22:55
PI
Pro cheap GFE good exchange rate
Con unsafe crooked government and police

Thailand
Pro easy access to actions safe country friendly people
Con girl with attitude bad exchange rate and getting more expensive

China
Pro cheap lovely girl I speak Chinese big plus for me
Con crack down price is going up

Brazil
Pro hot sexy woman with hot body best in bed
Con bad exchange rate and very expensive

Indoneasia
Pro hot woman very good value good exchange rate
Con girl with attitude no GFE crooked pimp and scam unsafe

Cambodia
Pro pretty hot viet girl cheap price
Con dirty shit hole country girl lack of experience un safe country

Just my IMHO anyone care to add to this
Macau (assuming it's not includes in the China report card above)
Pro legal variety hot
Con language attitude pricey

Germany
Pro legal hot variety safe
Con pricey language

Netherlands
Pro legal safe
Con pricey language clinical

Nevada (some counties, not Vegas)
Pro legal
Con pricey attitude clinical

Central Asia / Africa: RTFF

Starchild2012
09-18-10, 05:49
No kidding mate. They will slit their throats than speak sensibly.

After all people voted Pnoy in because he is a sad guy, his father was killed, his mom died.. Etc. Etc. No kidding.

And add to it, Marcos was fined 230K US as fine for stealing, as if that's going to hurt them, and Mama Marcos is representing RP for a UN Conferene, and Marcos Jr is poised to be the next president, and even Estrada won enough votes. Because "he seem like nice guy. "

And while Gloria is not a clean sheet, she did a lot for the economy, but who cares? We better have the Marcos in power, despite their billions of stolen money still unaccounted.

Welcome to Phil

Atleast such comedies keep things cheaper, and if not for the slightly unsafe environs, I am sure, that country will overtake Thailand for cheap mongerers.


Very good point Econo...I agree...However, If we put things in perspective...we see this problem in all countries.. be they developed or third world....I'm from India and i always thought Indian government is the most corrupt in the world..

Then this bush guy came along and i really had long nights thinking how could the most prosperous intellectually sound economic superpower could elect Bush Jr. Not Once BUT TWICE ?

He went onto to war on fake WMD lies, yet no criminal charges against him..he is a free man even today...his decision killed 1000's and 1000's of Iraqis..all for Oil and his friend Cheney Haliburton.

I think Bush father and Bush Jr are more criminal to the world than Pnoy or marcos...yet they walk free among the most free nation on earth?

America has elected one stupid president after another...and this latest Obama guy is a shame for what he told and what he really is doing..he doubled troops in Afghanistan and innocents people are killed by drone's.

I think if American's can be that stupid than we should give a pass on filipinos 'cos Pnoy in or not...the world could care less..

We only have to look back at history on how the so called today's prosperous nations on earth aka Germany or Japan were murderous genocidal thugs who butchered millions just 60 years ago...Their elected leader nearly destroyed the whole planet ...I think if we measure Filipinos to all the crime committed by other nations over the years and AT PRESENT DAY....filpinos would be like angels on earth :)

====================================

OK my whole point being...I think we shouldn't judge people of a country based on how its government works...I have met great Americans who are against what their presidents are doing the world over...so too i have met great filipinos who don't agree at all with what their country is going with

www.antipinoy.com

Check the above site..on how filipino writers rip their country apart....I have never seen such a critical analysis from even an Amercian or Indian writers against their own country.

Political division's aside...Be they American's, Europeans, Indians, Chinese OR Filipinos....We all are really same, their are scums in each country and then their are great people whom we would love to have a beer with.

I think we have been too judgmental clubbing all Philippine society based on what their leaders do ...Philiphines is not that bad.....I have met some really cool people over there. :)

Fast Eddie 48
09-18-10, 05:51
Macau (assuming it's not includes in the China report card above)
Pro legal variety hot
Con language attitude pricey

Germany
Pro legal hot variety safe
Con pricey language

Netherlands
Pro legal safe
Con pricey language clinical

Nevada (some counties, not Vegas)
Pro legal
Con pricey attitude clinical

Central Asia / Africa: RTFFLucky

No Macau is very different than China sauna there are legal but control, I am going to Vegas next week never p4p there go there twice a yr and you can get FS in China for 25 USD same cost for a lap dance in LV, I called it scam city not sin city.

Fast Eddie 48

TurdyCurdyOne
09-18-10, 05:53
Reply inline below:


Econo,

Mongering pros and cons

PI
Pro cheap GFE good exchange rate
Con unsafe crooked government and police

** pro filipinas are charmers, seductresses
foreigners highly valued cuz they are desperate to get out of that crap country.
cost of living still relatively cheap, especially in the provinces
speak more English than other places.
**con
idiots cannot keep the electricity on-no air cond. or fan if no generator
visa fees are outrageous, example of being held up without a gun.
crap food, crap housing, recent outbreaks of dengue fever
electricity rates high,food rates high except for locally produced
scammers and low life corrupt officials abound
hot and humid-bad climate (better than cold and freezing though)

Thailand
Pro easy access to actions safe country friendly people

**pro people slightly more trustworthy and have more integrity that Phil
housing much better and cheaper than Phil
food much better than Phil.
not as bad for scammers and corrupt criminals
can usually keep electric on.

Con girl with attuide bad exchange rate and getting more expensive

**con
girls too independent and demanding
most cannot speak English and Thai is not easy to learn (tonal language)
women not as desperate and willing to accomodate foreigners.


China
Pro cheap lovely girl I speak Chinese big plus for me

** pro chinese women have a rep for being good wives?
boom country with many get rich biz opportunities if you learn the ropes and language
provinces still relatively cheap


Con crack down price is going up

**con Chinese very difficult to learn
communist country, you could wind up in the gulag for no good reason
will become the world dominant power in the future with america in decline (my opinion)



Brazil
Pro hot sexy woman with hot body best in bed
Con bad exchange rate and very expensive

**pro women HOT in bed, uninhibited, view sex same as good meal
(porn is shown on daytime tv)
** beautiful brown skin beauties to be found
** well developed infrastructure, nice beaches, good climate
** huge country with many variations

con **very high armed robbery rates in Rio and similar cities, tourists a target.
foreign language to learn
gov visa policies hostile towards Americans
too damn expensive, both poon and living.

Indoneasia
Pro hot woman very good value good exchange rate

** pro: can be VERY cheap in smaller cities and provinces
less chance of being scammed (in my opinion).

Con girl with attuide no GFE crooked pimp and scam unsafe

**con
Muslim values and attitudes towards prostitution.
Muslim anti westerner attitudes
possibility of terrorist acts


Cambodia
Pro pretty hot viet girl cheap price
Con dirty shit hole country girl lack of experience un safe country

Just my IMHO anyone care to add to this

*pro cheap in smaller cities
easy cheap visa requirements
possibility of starting rapid growth business in undeveloped country

*con
unsafe, especially at night
little or no infrastructure
can be expensive in P.P.
girls often too young, jail bait.


Fast Eddie 8

Shark San
10-01-10, 13:39
Calm down dude, all of these 'dating' web sites a filled to bursting with women from third world countries looking for a remittance boyfriend, ticket out of the country. Whether this results in a stable marital relationship is highly questionable but can be achieved. If you _MUST_ go down the marriage track, come here & live with her/them for a while (e.g. six months) before making _ANY_ rash decisions. Aim for a girl from a rich chinese/filipino family for god's sakes.

AVThe more I think about this advice, the more sense it makes. I'm learning as I go but much respect for The Word.

Jambo
10-02-10, 00:00
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBL6dgBBak

This was on CBS TV news in the US tonight.

Member #4351
10-02-10, 02:23
Good exchange rate?? I was getting 51 pesos to the dollar in May, now less than 44.

Starchild2012
10-02-10, 04:33
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2SBL6dgBBak

This was on CBS TV news in the US tonight.


Wow the Vid was amusing and different...I guess this could become the next highest viewed video from Cebu right after Cebu inmates Thriller dance :)

Good promotion for Cebu Pacific

Econo Tech
10-02-10, 05:42
Wow the Vid was amusing and different...I guess this could become the next highest viewed video from Cebu right after Cebu inmates Thriller dance :)

Good promotion for Cebu PacificAnd a lot of kill-joys are questioning if any laws were broken by not following 'proper procedures' and so and so.

Anyway, I always liked Cebu Pac's staff. Fun. And with a single aisle plane they can only do so much fun. But hey. They are much better than Philippines Airlines.

Matter of fact, me thinks with Philippines airlines fucked, everybody is taking a swipe at Cebu Pac. Including the recent refusal of Cebu Pac to transport kidneys. As they simply followed laws. And they were perfectly right.

GoodEnough
10-02-10, 15:30
And a lot of kill-joys are questioning if any laws were broken by not following 'proper procedures' and so and so.

Anyway, I always liked Cebu Pac's staff. Fun. And with a single aisle plane they can only do so much fun. But hey. They are much better than Philippines Airlines.

Matter of fact, me thinks with Philippines airlines fucked, everybody is taking a swipe at Cebu Pac. Including the recent refusal of Cebu Pac to transport kidneys. As they simply followed laws. And they were perfectly right.

I guess we all see the world differently. I go out of my way to avoid having to fly Cebu Pacific, and will always fly PAL if given a choice. I find PAL totally professional and helpful, while CP always seems to me like an airline run by 18 year old amateurs.

GE

Jambo
10-02-10, 17:41
I go out of my way to avoid having to fly Cebu Pacific,Hey they are the 2nd largest air line in the Philippines!

Paul C
10-02-10, 20:03
Good exchange rate?? I was getting 51 pesos to the dollar in May, now less than 44.Where did you get 51 pesos to the dollar? According to this table of historical exchange rates (PHP to USD) (http://www.exchange-rates.org/history/PHP/USD/T), the rates in May were between 44.xx and 47.xx.

GoodEnough
10-03-10, 01:45
Hey they are the 2nd largest air line in the Philippines!
And Jollibee, which serves inedible food is the largest, most popular restaurant. But that doesn't mean I would ever set foot in one.

Starchild2012
10-03-10, 04:18
And a lot of kill-joys are questioning if any laws were broken by not following 'proper procedures' and so and so.

Anyway, I always liked Cebu Pac's staff. Fun. And with a single aisle plane they can only do so much fun. But hey. They are much better than Philippines Airlines.

Matter of fact, me thinks with Philippines airlines fucked, everybody is taking a swipe at Cebu Pac. Including the recent refusal of Cebu Pac to transport kidneys. As they simply followed laws. And they were perfectly right.


yeah there are always those kinds...they did the usual boring routine on ground before doing this one...and if major US and Europeans news picks it up...which they did..i don't think anyone would questions legalities here in PH :) ..already 3.5 millions views in 48 hrs :)

Philosophery
10-03-10, 04:38
And Jollibee, which serves inedible food is the largest, most popular restaurant. But that doesn't mean I would ever set foot in one.

For what it is worth, I am a mega frequent flier (over 5 million miles with many carriers globally). I have flown Cebu Pacific about 4 times and find them a pleasant and efficient airline.

A cheap and cheerful airline with a very nice crew. Not the luxurious ambiance of Singapore but I will fly them fo (at most) a 2 hour flight around HK and the Philippines.

Member #4351
10-03-10, 05:47
I liked the comment where the guy said; that would keep him in the upright postion.

Goferring
10-03-10, 10:53
I've been having a great time in the Philippines (see my P Galera and Manila Posts) but one thing has totally stumped me:

My personal circumstances mean that I NEVER travel with toys or accessories but always buy them at my final destination. This is usually never a problem but here I have been totally unable to find any lube despite muti day searches in large Pharmacies and Shopping Centres.

Is lube available in the Philippines? If so where from? Is it called something wierd over here that I am not recognising?

Maybe a stupid question but I know I'm not going crazy. The girls in PG only had lube supplied from departing customers and two pickups from Burgos did not even know what I was talking about when asked.

Any assistance would be gratefully received.

Wicked Roger
10-03-10, 16:51
I guess we all see the world differently. I go out of my way to avoid having to fly Cebu Pacific, and will always fly PAL if given a choice. I find PAL totally professional and helpful, while CP always seems to me like an airline run by 18 year old amateurs.

GE
GE

You know I always fly CP...because there are 18 year old amateurs in the crew :) :D

It is a good airline and cheaper than PAL and you know how many miles I fly

But then again you think bangers and mash is not cuisine while I do ..especially when topped off with ketchup :D

But I do agree Jollibee is something that is purely disgusting.....

Jambo
10-03-10, 17:21
Oh oh, here's the "Making of Dancing Flight Attendants" video. Even better.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40S3Uemx4I&feature=related

This would NOT Work with those 300lb Water Buffaloes they got working on United Airlines

Ekspat
10-04-10, 02:19
Is lube available in the Philippines? If so where from? Is it called something wierd over here that I am not recognising?
I don't use toys, but when I go for a 3-holer,
my choice is baby-oil.

Cheers!

Member #4351
10-04-10, 03:01
That will eat a condom, if it matters. Should have KY in drugstores. Medical presentation, but the same stuff. Goferring, I have some spare lube with me if you need some...

Econo Tech
10-04-10, 03:04
GE

You know I always fly CP...because there are 18 year old amateurs in the crew :) :D

It is a good airline and cheaper than PAL and you know how many miles I fly

But then again you think bangers and mash is not cuisine while I do ..especially when topped off with ketchup :D

But I do agree Jollibee is something that is purely disgusting.....Maybe you are pretty right, because Cebu Pac has the highest number of freshers - maybe because they get paid less to build hours ?? :confused:

And it is not surprising to see both right and left seaters below 30 !!!

As for the professionalism of PAL, well, Cebu Pac never compromised on Safety, and so is PAL, and Cebu Pac does have one of the youngest fleets.

Wicked Roger
10-04-10, 04:51
That will eat a condom, if it matters. Should have KY in drugstores. Medical presentation, but the same stuff. Goferring, I have some spare lube with me if you need some...

Why does does that not surprise me David :D

You can get in most pharmacies but never really seen the flavoured stuff, although at times (rarely) have seen the Durex cherry stuff ...not my flavour but then I dont taste it ;) Girls seem to like it....

Noobee86
10-04-10, 06:02
I don't use toys, but when I go for a 3-holer,
my choice is baby-oil.

Cheers!Another option is coconut oil, which is the standard cooking oil used in the Philippines. Not recommended with latex condoms, however, since it may degrade the latex.

Key Master
10-04-10, 07:39
Is lube available in the Philippines? If so where from? Is it called something wierd over here that I am not recognising?


As the other poster mentioned, I got KY in a tube from a pharmacy. They probably all have it, just ask for lube or KY maybe.

Red Kilt
10-04-10, 08:22
.............
Is lube available in the Philippines? If so where from? Is it called something wierd over here that I am not recognising?
.

I just did a quick check of 3 pharmacies/boticas in Manila - 2 in Ortigas (Mercury Drug and Watsons) and 1 in Makati (Watsons).

All had KY gel in tubes on the shelf. All had a great array of condoms of all brands and colors and flavors. All had the small sachets of flavored gel in the display next to the condoms.

You never looked hard enough Goferring. Were you too embarrassed to ask a shop assistant lol?

Econo Tech
10-04-10, 11:45
I just did a quick check of 3 pharmacies/boticas in Manila - 2 in Ortigas (Mercury Drug and Watsons) and 1 in Makati (Watsons).

All had KY gel in tubes on the shelf. All had a great array of condoms of all brands and colors and flavors. All had the small sachets of flavored gel in the display next to the condoms.

You never looked hard enough Goferring. Were you too embarrassed to ask a shop assistant lol?Maybe he got flustered by the ever helpful filipino staff ... if there is one thing I hate in Philippines - it is the constant service offered by the service staff, which is considered good by most, but, even when you tell them you don't need .. they keep following you until you either give up or tell them that you haven't made up your mind :( :(

It happened to me when I was picking condoms, and it was more than a bit embarassing when the girl insisted on suggesting some brands .. :( it is a different matter that I ended up picking her phone number, but left without condoms .. as she was more than open enough to tell me that she is 'clean' and condom is for the 'dirty' girls.

Long life the Church !! :D :D

Escort Fan
10-04-10, 18:45
Is it possible to buy smartbuddy (or globe) pre paid Micro SIM card for the Iphone 4?

I jailbreaked it and ran snow whatever thinggie, so it should accept the philippine SIM.

I guess I should go to the smart office in Robinson.

But what are the prices, and how can I buy 3G credit so I can get my emails and stuff without having to worry about trafic and RIP OFF roaming at 10 EUROS per MB.

Thanks

Fast Eddie 48
10-05-10, 01:21
As the other poster mentioned, I got KY in a tube from a pharmacy. They probably all have it, just ask for lube or KY maybe.Key Master,

KY is easy to find but try finding a girl in PI that will do ANAL now that is not easy, your best bet is go to Thailand for that.

Fast Eddie 48

Simian
10-05-10, 04:15
Maybe he got flustered by the ever helpful filipino staff ... if there is one thing I hate in Philippines - it is the constant service offered by the service staff, which is considered good by most, but, even when you tell them you don't need .. they keep following you until you either give up or tell them that you haven't made up your mind :( :(

It happened to me when I was picking condoms, and it was more than a bit embarassing when the girl insisted on suggesting some brands .. :( it is a different matter that I ended up picking her phone number, but left without condoms .. as she was more than open enough to tell me that she is 'clean' and condom is for the 'dirty' girls.

Long life the Church !! :D :D

For those situations in many Asian countries where the shop assistants shadow you, you ask them if they have Pseudopharmacon - usually they go off to the pharmacist and there is much looking up of books of lists of medicines. There is, of course, no such thing as Pseudopharmacon - it just means "false or pseudo-medicine" in ancient Greek (most medical terms come from ancient Greek).

Econo Tech
10-05-10, 04:48
For those situations in many Asian countries where the shop assistants shadow you, you ask them if they have Pseudopharmacon - usually they go off to the pharmacist and there is much looking up of books of lists of medicines. There is, of course, no such thing as Pseudopharmacon - it just means "false or pseudo-medicine" in ancient Greek (most medical terms come from ancient Greek).Have to remember that, when I get harassed by a service staff.

Thanks mate

Econo Tech
10-05-10, 06:54
KY is easy to find but try finding a girl in PI that will do ANAL now that is not easy, your best bet is go to Thailand for that.But judging by some of the pictures in the gallery, seems not. But me too have to agree with you.

Artful
10-05-10, 14:38
Hi

I'm due to arrive in Manila on Friday from Bangkok. Because I don't know when I'll be returning I only bought a one-way ticket. It's now just occured to me that maybe that's going to be a problem at PH immigation. I have a return flight booked from BKK to Europe at the end of October.

Any thoughts from the PH experts?

A

Member #4351
10-05-10, 14:43
There is a sign in immigration which says you have to show your return ticket upon entering the country. Didn't ask me for mine.....but who knows? This has been discussed on the forum previously.

Escort Fan
10-05-10, 14:54
There is a sign in immigration which says you have to show your return ticket upon entering the country. Didn't ask me for mine.....but who knows? This has been discussed on the forum previously.Be careful about that it's dangerous to play Russian roulette. The trouble is not immigration it's you leave to go the Phils. In BKK, Cebu pacific refused to let me embark unless I bought a return ticket. I had to struggle to find a wifi to book a cheapo Clark. Macau for 2, 000 pesos which I never used.

Airlines gets fined by Phils authorities if they let you enter the country without a return ticket.

Red Kilt
10-05-10, 15:43
Hi

I'm due to arrive in Manila on Friday from Bangkok. Because I don't know when I'll be returning I only bought a one-way ticket. It's now just occured to me that maybe that's going to be a problem at PH immigation. I have a return flight booked from BKK to Europe at the end of October.

Any thoughts from the PH experts?

A

The problem should occur at check in in Bkk when the airline has to check your ticket OUT of the Philippines before they carry you here.

It is cheap to buy a return ticket with Cebu Pacific from Manila to Bkk at some date near the end of Oct and you can change it once with no penalty if you do it 24 hours before the flight. I would do that if I were you for peace of mind, especially as you have to return to Bkk anyway.

Mongrinastrlnd
10-05-10, 15:54
Is it possible to buy smartbuddy (or globe) pre paid Micro SIM card for the Iphone 4?

I jailbreaked it and ran snow whatever thinggie, so it should accept the philippine SIM.

I guess I should go to the smart office in Robinson.

But what are the prices, and how can I buy 3G credit so I can get my emails and stuff without having to worry about trafic and RIP OFF roaming at 10 EUROS per MB.

ThanksProbably micro-sims only available from Globe, and you'll probably have to go to one of their company stores to boot. Iphone is exclusive to globe in Philippines, but is sold in a prepay version.

Prepaid data is timed, works out to P20 per hour, billed out in 15 or 30 minute chunks depending on which carrier. Its billed off the same load as your calls/texts. There's a couple apps on Cydia that will let U-turn data on/off on demand, but when you do a reboot on the phone data automatically switches off, so if your phone crashes and reboots, remember to switch the data off asap.

On my recent trip I also picked up an unlocked Samsung Galaxy 5 android phone, quite cheap at P10, 500 compared to the price of any other Android 2. 1/2. 2 phone in my country.

Sammon
10-05-10, 17:17
Hi

I'm due to arrive in Manila on Friday from Bangkok. Because I don't know when I'll be returning I only bought a one-way ticket. It's now just occured to me that maybe that's going to be a problem at PH immigation. I have a return flight booked from BKK to Europe at the end of October.

Any thoughts from the PH experts?

A
Phi immigration never asked me for return ticket proof.
But the airline on check in has always asked me for proof of return.
So it is the Airline you need to worry about, not Phi immigration.

Iron Duke
10-05-10, 18:51
Phi immigration never asked me for return ticket proof.
But the airline on check in has always asked me for proof of return.
So it is the Airline you need to worry about, not Phi immigration.

I agree. Once when in BKK I tried to organise a one-way ticket to Manila. The travel agent tried very hard to persude me I needed a return ticket but I wasn't going back to Thailand and I insisted on one-way ticket which was reluctantly agreed to. At the airport check-in the PAL clerk was adamant I wasn't getting on the plane without a ticket out of PI. It could be to anywhere but I had to have it.

White Whale
10-05-10, 20:29
Hi

I'm due to arrive in Manila on Friday from Bangkok. Because I don't know when I'll be returning I only bought a one-way ticket. It's now just occured to me that maybe that's going to be a problem at PH immigation. I have a return flight booked from BKK to Europe at the end of October.

Any thoughts from the PH experts?

A

I do not count me as an expert. There are more experienced experts than me (around 7-8 visits) but my encounter the immigration in Manila was a refresher to put me on my place. All earlier immigration experiences were like walking in the park. This time Cebu Pacific has cancelled my route to AC and I had to use NAIA. There was one 55+ years female bat whos' only remaining goal in her life was to humiliate any male tourists arriving to PI. I had to dig up my return ticket. I do not know what would have happened if I did not have the return ticket.

According to my one time negative experience I think it is lottery who you meet on immigration desk.

Rubberyman
10-05-10, 23:01
Hi

I'm due to arrive in Manila on Friday from Bangkok. Because I don't know when I'll be returning I only bought a one-way ticket. It's now just occured to me that maybe that's going to be a problem at PH immigation. I have a return flight booked from BKK to Europe at the end of October.

Any thoughts from the PH experts?

A


A one way ticket out of the PI dated some time in the future by one of the discount airlines is not that much to pay for peace of mind. Normally the airlines going into the country ask for the onward booking. The reason for this is that Phils immigration can require the incoming airline to take the passenger back to where he came from at their expense.

Denom
10-06-10, 05:38
I've been having a great time in the Philippines (see my P Galera and Manila Posts) but one thing has totally stumped me:

My personal circumstances mean that I NEVER travel with toys or accessories but always buy them at my final destination. This is usually never a problem but here I have been totally unable to find any lube despite muti day searches in large Pharmacies and Shopping Centres.You'll find it in Watson. Called Bliss. It's not over the counter, it's in the shop. You need to look around for it or ask the sales lady or guard. Mercury has too but not as good. BTW, Mercury condoms are bad as well. Best ones are Trust, and you find them in Watson as well (plus all around the place except Mercury).

Denom
10-06-10, 05:53
Denom...Yeah... Manila mayor Lim is responsible for most of the bad call...all senate hearing and investigation point to his bad decision one after the other...if he does not go ..some one has to....As you said its unlikely he will be fired.....but everyday we get news of his involvement which led to the crisis.Aquino is due to release the Palace decision on the investigation report today but you know what this IDIOT does? He praises Lim for a "job well done" in an unrelated even in Tondo just days before his announcement!

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20101002-295598/Aquino-praises-Lim-for-job-well-done

Yet another Aquino's stupendous goof. So what do you expect the "sanction" announcement to be after that? He's not going to do shit. Most probably going to say something like "has to be further enquiry to determine sanctions" (read: whitewash) or he'll take some minor administrative sanctions. I bet you. Aquino's credibility is quickly going down the drain.

Denom
10-06-10, 05:57
A one way ticket out of the PI dated some time in the future by one of the discount airlines is not that much to pay for peace of mind. Normally the airlines going into the country ask for the onward booking. The reason for this is that Phils immigration can require the incoming airline to take the passenger back to where he came from at their expense.The best way I found was to buy a slightly more expensive ticket (like Thai airways) but one where you can change the date for free.

Wicked Roger
10-06-10, 06:43
But judging by some of the pictures in the gallery, seems not. But me too have to agree with you.
Absolutely correct ET...just the way you ask...;) and explain that you have deviriginised plenty pinay ass before so you are kind, gentle etc despite being a dirty assed monger :D

I have no trouble with finding ladies for Greek lessons...remember they think all things sexual are dirty etc so when they get really horny after finding out that all the bad things are actually fun, they are relaxed and very much in the zone....thats the time to ask...;) Just my thoughts on the classics!

Econo Tech
10-06-10, 06:48
Be careful about that it's dangerous to play Russian roulette. The trouble is not immigration it's you leave to go the Phils. In BKK, Cebu pacific refused to let me embark unless I bought a return ticket. I had to struggle to find a wifi to book a cheapo Clark. Macau for 2, 000 pesos which I never used.

Airlines gets fined by Phils authorities if they let you enter the country without a return ticket.Airlines may or may not get fined. The bigger headache is. The airline has the right to recover the return flight cost. And if it is a regular carrier, they can bump you to a see class and whack you. Legally. But it rarely happens.

The bigger headache is Immigration can put a stamp, which can raise eyebrows in other countries. Like in Singapore. They drop a W12. And when you get into Malaysia, you get a reject with no reason. And also sometimes a chop that says A2A in Malaysia, and when you get to Singapore, and if you are not so attractive you can be rejected entry. With no reason.

Play safe

Wicked Roger
10-06-10, 06:57
But judging by some of the pictures in the gallery, seems not. But me too have to agree with you.
Absolutely correct ET...just the way you ask...;) and explain that you have deviriginised plenty pinay ass before so you are kind, gentle etc despite being a dirty assed monger :D

I have no trouble with finding ladies for Greek lessons...remember they think all things sexual are dirty etc so when they get really horny after finding out that all the bad things are actually fun, they are relaxed and very much in the zone....thats the time to ask...;) Just my thoughts on the classics!

Member #4698
10-06-10, 14:16
Oh oh, here's the "Making of Dancing Flight Attendants" video. Even better.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h40S3Uemx4I&feature=related
The dancing Cebu Pacific flight attendants video made the Bill O'Reilly show last night in the pinheads and patriots segment. Anybody can vote for or against the girls. http://www.billoreilly.com/site
If you got a kick out of the video then cast your vote in favor. They won't get it in Peoria.

Questor55
10-06-10, 18:02
Aquino is due to release the Palace decision on the investigation report today but you know what this IDIOT does? He praises Lim for a "job well done" in an unrelated even in Tondo just days before his announcement!

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20101002-295598/Aquino-praises-Lim-for-job-well-done

Yet another Aquino's stupendous goof. So what do you expect the "sanction" announcement to be after that? He's not going to do shit. Most probably going to say something like "has to be further enquiry to determine sanctions" (read: whitewash) or he'll take some minor administrative sanctions. I bet you. Aquino's credibility is quickly going down the drain.Guys, better to place these comments in the History and Politics Forum.

For sure, we'll have lot's more to discuss as P-Noys 'Titanic' continues on.

White Whale
10-07-10, 21:23
Can anyone be kind enough to provide me with the link to a good online translator that will translate phrases from english/tagalog and english/cebuano. It will be much appreciated!

That is so easy... Best in world
http://translate.google.com/#

Econo Tech
10-08-10, 04:41
That is so easy... Best in world

http://translate.google.com/#Translates Filipino (Taglish) to english, no Cebuano.

Benzedrine
10-08-10, 06:18
Is it possible to buy smartbuddy (or globe) pre paid Micro SIM card for the Iphone 4?

I jailbreaked it and ran snow whatever thinggie, so it should accept the philippine SIM.

I guess I should go to the smart office in Robinson.

But what are the prices, and how can I buy 3G credit so I can get my emails and stuff without having to worry about trafic and RIP OFF roaming at 10 EUROS per MB.

ThanksA little known secret my friend. Just cut your regular SIM and slide it into your iPhone 4 or iPad. snip, snip, snip away. The actual chip part is the same size.

I have used both Globe and Smart 3G on my 3GS. A quick google search will reveal the prepaid APN settings for Globe and SMART and instructions on how to program them into your phone.

If you have any more specific questions, just PM me.

Rampana
10-08-10, 16:02
Translates Filipino (Taglish) to english, no Cebuano.

Hi Eco,

Filipino language is NOT called Taglish.
The term "Filipino" is Synonymus with "Tagalog".

Taglish is a mix between Tagalog and English, as spoken very often in everday life.

Just to avoid confusion.

Econo Tech
10-08-10, 16:45
Hi Eco,

Filipino language is NOT called Taglish.
The term "Filipino" is Synonymus with "Tagalog".

Taglish is a mix between Tagalog and English, as spoken very often in everday life.

Just to avoid confusion.Relax mate. The Google Translate has the language "Filipino". And as for Taglish, have you ever withdrawn money in the ATMs in Philippines? Next time, read the language options. Forgot which one, but some had "english, taglish" as options. No kidding.

ThatGuy865
10-08-10, 21:00
A little known secret my friend. Just cut your regular SIM and slide it into your iPhone 4 or iPad. snip, snip, snip away. The actual chip part is the same size.

I have used both Globe and Smart 3G on my 3GS. A quick google search will reveal the prepaid APN settings for Globe and SMART and instructions on how to program them into your phone.

If you have any more specific questions, just PM me.WIFI is in just about every hotel and many bars so why even worry about the data package.

GoodEnough
10-08-10, 23:56
You can get the micro sim for the iPhone4 and the iPad only from Globe here, and it costs Php 1,000 per month for unlimited net access and downloads. That is, if you don't want to cut down an existing sim. When I was in Singapore about a month ago, I bought a small cutting instrument designed to cut down regular-size sim cards to the micro size. It works fine as well. There are also small kiosk-like shops that offer the "trimming to micro size" service and will do it for you for a couple of dollars. I don't think you can get the sim from Globe without a plan.

GE

Lonely Traveler
10-10-10, 11:03
Hello everyone!

I'm going to visit the Philippines in February, but I would like to leave some luggage in the store 's airport because I come from Europe and I'm sure that I will have a heavy luggage, over 15 kg allowed.

I decided to travel with Cebu Pacific, in its terminal 3, is there a luggage storage there?

Thanks

Econo Tech
10-11-10, 03:49
Hello everyone!

I'm going to visit the Philippines in February, but I would like to leave some luggage in the store 's airport because I come from Europe and I'm sure that I will have a heavy luggage, over 15 kg allowed.

I decided to travel with Cebu Pacific, in its terminal 3, is there a luggage storage there?

ThanksFound this somewhere .. but my own take ?? I don't trust my stuff with anybody .. better you check into a hotel in Manila, and leave with the concierge - experience says Hotel Concierges are safer - as I used to do when I leave manila for a couple of days.

PS: T3 is new - should have a "left luggage" facility (as they are known in Philippines )

Q: Can I go out for a walk in Manila and left my luggage in the airport?

A: There are two luggage holds. One is in NAIA-1 and one is in NAIA-2. Both are on arrival level near the luggage carousels. It is a bit tricky to get there from outside, but when you arrive, you can leave your luggage there for PHP 300 per day. You get a ticket which allows you later to enter the arrival area from outside. For inquiries: phone: +63 2 877-1109 local 3633. (updated April 01, 2009).

FreebieFan
10-11-10, 04:15
Relax mate. The Google Translate has the language "Filipino". And as for Taglish, have you ever withdrawn money in the ATMs in Philippines? Next time, read the language options. Forgot which one, but some had "english, taglish" as options. No kidding.You are correct., All BPI ATMS ask if you want Taglish or English.

Wicked Roger
10-11-10, 10:06
Hello everyone!

I'm going to visit the Philippines in February, but I would like to leave some luggage in the store 's airport because I come from Europe and I'm sure that I will have a heavy luggage, over 15 kg allowed.

I decided to travel with Cebu Pacific, in its terminal 3, is there a luggage storage there?

Thanks
I would agree with ET

I use CPac a lot and you can pre pay for excess baggage (I had 40kgs recently...accessories etc ;)). But if you want to travel light then I suggest you book one night in an hotel on your return to Manila and ask the hotel to care for the bages

I even left luggage in an hotel, went overseas and came back 2 weeks later and the bag was still there - I had changed my mind and was staying at different hotel (tip the bag man well is my idea). Just explain and all will be fine and IMHO certainly safer than leaving at the terminal.

GoodEnough
10-11-10, 11:07
You are correct., All BPI ATMS ask if you want Taglish or English.
According to what I've read, very few Filipinos speak pure Tagalog. This is especially true for those outside of the metro Manila area. A child's first language is typically one of the regional tongues such as Chevacanco, Visayan, or Ilocano. For foreigner residing outside of Manila, learning pure Tagalog isn't very helpful. The simple fact is, despite what the guidebooks may say, and possibly to the chagrin of the government, there is no common, unifying national language unless perhaps it's Taglish.

GE

Amavida
10-11-10, 15:07
According to what I've read, very few Filipinos speak pure Tagalog. This is especially true for those outside of the metro Manila area. A child's first language is typically one of the regional tongues such as Chevacanco, Visayan, or Ilocano. For foreigner residing outside of Manila, learning pure Tagalog isn't very helpful. The simple fact is, despite what the guidebooks may say, and possibly to the chagrin of the government, there is no common, unifying national language unless perhaps it's Taglish.

GE
That is true in my experience GE. The only people I know who speak/understand Tagalog fluently are educated Manila people & us 'poriners' who learned it.

Out side of Manila these people switch to dialect when conversing because basically the hicks in the province can't keep up with a native Tagalog speaker. Also there is a deep suspicion/mistrust of 'Manila people'.

I spent quite a lot of time around the Dipolog area in Mindanao in the past & found in those parts Tagalog about as useful as English i.e. not very...

I simply had to learn Cebuano for everyday activities. Even senior college students who should have had years of English/Tagalog classes were pretty clueless once you got past 'hello, how are you'.

Interestingly as I moved further south west from Dipolog towards say, Sindangan, it got worse! People only an hour or two drive from Dipolog speak a very local dialect called 'Subanen'. These folk are descendants of tribes of coastal people who were indigenous before the moslems walked in & took over the peninsula of Zamboanga.

AV

Denom
10-12-10, 06:04
Aquino is due to release the Palace decision on the investigation report today but you know what this IDIOT does? He praises Lim for a "job well done" in an unrelated even in Tondo just days before his announcement!

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/nation/view/20101002-295598/Aquino-praises-Lim-for-job-well-done

Yet another Aquino's stupendous goof. So what do you expect the "sanction" announcement to be after that? He's not going to do shit. Most probably going to say something like "has to be further enquiry to determine sanctions" (read: whitewash) or he'll take some minor administrative sanctions. I bet you. Aquino's credibility is quickly going down the drain.And this is exactly what happened. None get criminal charges, all charges lifted for his friends Puno and the like, only light "administrative" charges against Lim (read: nothing really, just for show), and only the smaller fishes (police official) get the blame on very general charges whereas specific charges against political allies (the real culprit) are ignored.

What else is new? The whole thing is a joke and a waste of time, with the IIRC recommendations basically ignored by the "President" after over-long delays. If I was Chinese from Hong Kong I would be steaming mad but I am not so let's just move on to the next mongering business while we still can...

Econo Tech
10-13-10, 03:00
And this is exactly what happened. None get criminal charges, all charges lifted for his friends Puno and the like, only light "administrative" charges against Lim (read: nothing really, just for show), and only the smaller fishes (police official) get the blame on very general charges whereas specific charges against political allies (the real culprit) are ignored.

What else is new? The whole thing is a joke and a waste of time, with the IIRC recommendations basically ignored by the "President" after over-long delays. If I was Chinese from Hong Kong I would be steaming mad but I am not so let's just move on to the next mongering business while we still can...My 2 cents? If a country can vote Estrada as second place for Presidential election and let the marcos family be in the senate. Don't bother whining of fuming about it. Philippines is for Filipinos. Lesser mortals like us will never figure out what is in their head.

And as for Chinese fuming, the filipinos replied nicely by compiling a list of human rights violations by China and there you have it: It was sort of OK for the tourists to be killed, and worse. Donald Tsang only complicated the issue by not following 'protocol'

Next question please?

Starchild2012
10-13-10, 12:49
And this is exactly what happened. None get criminal charges, all charges lifted for his friends Puno and the like, only light "administrative" charges against Lim (read: nothing really, just for show), and only the smaller fishes (police official) get the blame on very general charges whereas specific charges against political allies (the real culprit) are ignored.

What else is new? The whole thing is a joke and a waste of time, with the IIRC recommendations basically ignored by the "President" after over-long delays. If I was Chinese from Hong Kong I would be steaming mad but I am not so let's just move on to the next mongering business while we still can...

You were right Denom...As we discussed earlier, all the accused in the report will be praised and left free...its sad...another six years wasted again ...I don't think we will see any changes in the PH...it would be things as usual.....the thing is Marcos son is raising his voice and he could get a shot at presidency some time.

Well, being from a Third world country myself...i dont have high expectations anyways :) anywhere...things are more shitty back home...I would be happy in PH as long as there are filipinas and i have the money...these are the only two things that matters to me...:)

Member #4351
10-13-10, 13:45
Some time ago a forum member suggested reading "Culture Shock Phlippines" by Alfredo and Grace Roces. I bought it on Amazon and have been reading it during this trip. It makes a lot of Filipino politics much clearer. The entire utang na loob or "personal favors" concept seems to be the basis for much of what happens here; be it how one votes, or getting a monthly stipend out of the foreign son in law.

Questor55
10-13-10, 18:02
Some time ago a forum member suggested reading "Culture Shock Phlippines" by Alfredo and Grace Roces. I bought it on Amazon and have been reading it during this trip. It makes a lot of Filipino politics much clearer. The entire utang na loob or "personal favors" concept seems to be the basis for much of what happens here; be it how one votes, or getting a monthly stipend out of the foreign son in law.Yep, D_33, this is bedrock of the political/economic structure.

Down at the Barangay level, expect the chief to be the only one with the big house and the flashy SUV. He is the one who dispenses govt.

Largesse as he sees fit. In certain 'life or death' situations he's the one desperate families will turn to. Impoverished families will often have funeral expenses covered by the barangay chief. In return, absolute loyalty is expected.

So all down the line, from the apex to the base of the political structure, govt. Funds are dispensed as if they are the personal bankroll of each official. There seems to be little concept of government money being OUR money.

It's a lot like the fuedal system of the Middle Ages. Vassals all.

Red Kilt
10-14-10, 00:27
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Down at the Barangay level, expect the chief to be the only one with the big house and the flashy SUV. He is the one who dispenses govt. largesse as he sees fit. In certain 'life or death' situations he's the one desperate families will turn to. Impoverished families will often have funeral expenses covered by the barangay chief. In return, absolute loyalty is expected.
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I think you need to spend a little time living in a barangay like I have before you say things like this that are totally misleading Q 55.
In all of the 3 barangays in which I have spent extended periods it is NOT the barangay captain with any money but more likely the local congressman/woman who has the "pork barrel" handout from the government. These are the people who can assist with the expenses that you mention

I have not yet ever seen a barangay captain with very much money at all.

Econo Tech
10-14-10, 04:08
Well, being from a Third world country myself...i dont have high expectations anyways :) anywhere...things are more shitty back home...I would be happy in PH as long as there are filipinas and i have the money...these are the only two things that matters to me...:)There are third world countries, and there are other third world countries.

Each country it's their own quirky stuff - like - could you compare african justice with arabian justice?

Yes, as long as there are filipinas, we should forget the rest.

GoodEnough
10-14-10, 09:48
There are third world countries, and there are other third world countries.

Each country it's their own quirky stuff - like - could you compare african justice with arabian justice?

Yes, as long as there are filipinas, we should forget the rest.

For those of us who live here, it's not so easy to forget the rest, as the rest affects several facets of our day-to-day lives.

Econo Tech
10-14-10, 11:43
For those of us who live here, it's not so easy to forget the rest, as the rest affects several facets of our day-to-day lives.Oops. I too got some connections up there, but my comments were in jest.

In my own opinion, of all South Asian countries, Philippines is a world apart. To be honest, like people getting killed and the killers getting pardoned, mutineers who by right should be court martialled excused, and known plunderers (Marcos Family and Estrada) enjoying the confidence of the 'forgiving' people. And when a Chinese gets killed, the response being "China has a bad human rights history, so, it is not a bad thing another Chinese killed, and when a Filipino gets death sentance for a murder proven beyond guilty or for other offence like drug smuggling. The whole nation demands mercy and clemency. And. Sympathy. And attack visitors from those countries, and then with too much of romantic books cook up some stories like the person was innocent, and was setup by the law enforcement authority. (I always wondered what a squeeky clean country like Singapore would gain by setting up arriving passengers with Drugs. Caught in their possession and how the Singapore Customs would be able to do such stunts.) and. When a prostitute was murdered in Singapore on a deal gone bad, first thing that comes out is "well, regardless, Singaporean have shown they are bunch of nasty people" and when the culprit is found to be another Filipino, the answer is "well, who knows what happened, poor guy. He maybe a murderer but he doesn't deserve the death sentance. "

Well, I could go on, but I know. It will never end.

Hence my writing. There was a bit of humour intended there. But. Well, I understand your pain. To a great extent.

Cheers

Econo Tech
10-14-10, 11:46
For those of us who live here, it's not so easy to forget the rest, as the rest affects several facets of our day-to-day lives.Rather I was trying to emulate PNoy - smile in the face of severe pain (as he did when he was visiting the scene of the HK hostage Massacre.

Ratszo
10-14-10, 19:01
I think you need to spend a little time living in a barangay like I have before you say things like this that are totally misleading Q 55.
In all of the 3 barangays in which I have spent extended periods it is NOT the barangay captain with any money but more likely the local congressman/woman who has the "pork barrel" handout from the government. These are the people who can assist with the expenses that you mention

I have not yet ever seen a barangay captain with very much money at all.Overall I agree.

A barangay captain is the bottom of the food chain for public monies, and doubt they get to dip much.

At the municipal level, mayors hold the purse-strings.

My dentist in Dumagete is captain of the downtown barangay. He's well off by his own means.

One of the trike drivers I know is a captain. He works every shift.

As an overview, more than half of the federal budget is transfered to the provinces.

Much like canada's 'transfer payments' under confederation.

Historically under the spanish regime, the governors would traval to manila once a year to meet the 'black ship' carrying that year's spec in bullion.

They'd meet, set policy, and take their alotment of gold back to the province to mantain goverment for the comming year.

The americans saw the utility in the practice and its continued til today.

30+ provinces, 70 odd languages, and countless islands makes for decentralised budgetary autonomy.

That's a mouthful.

GL!

Escort Fan
10-17-10, 01:48
I've played some high stakes poker (well high stakes poker for the phils! I'm no Ivey or Negranu of course). And I've won 80, 000 pesos last night (in a single pot).

I don't think I'll be able to spent it all, as I book hotels online in order to get cheaper rates.

My problem is that apparently you're only allowed to leave the phils with 10; 000 pesos unless you got an authorization. Even though I never had my pockets searched, I clearly want to avoid problems with phils customs.

Can I change back this amount back to euro somewhere?

Perhaps I should open a bank account, but I remember some banks create problems for people without an addy in the phils and some other (hsbsc) as far I as I remember would request client to deposit 100K. Guess I should go play again LOL.

Wicked Roger
10-17-10, 15:58
I've played some high stakes poker (well high stakes poker for the phils! I'm no Ivey or Negranu of course). And I've won 80, 000 pesos last night (in a single pot).

I don't think I'll be able to spent it all, as I book hotels online in order to get cheaper rates.

My problem is that apparently you're only allowed to leave the phils with 10; 000 pesos unless you got an authorization. Even though I never had my pockets searched, I clearly want to avoid problems with phils customs.

Can I change back this amount back to euro somewhere?

Perhaps I should open a bank account, but I remember some banks create problems for people without an addy in the phils and some other (hsbsc) as far I as I remember would request client to deposit 100K. Guess I should go play again LOL.

EF

You could leave in an envelope with my name on it and trust me I will give it my favourite charity :D

Or you could go to one of the local banks and ask

HSBC needs a 5,000 pesos deposit for certain accounts others less so give it a go. Issue is that it can take time to establish the account...hence my envelope idea....

Or give some to Red Kilt's charity to help underpriviledged kids in their education (see earlier FRs), good karma .....

Brymor
10-17-10, 17:38
No need to open a bank account, you wouldn't do that if you were changing Euros or Dollars into Pesos and the reverse is just the same. I have changed some of my excess Pesos back into my own currency before, just use one of the larger banks that has a foreign exchange counter. I don't know if there are any limits to the amount you can change, I have changed 10,000 before without any problem. All you need to have with you is your passport. The only problem you may encounter is that they do not have enough Euros in stock and you may have to wait a day or two for the money to be ordered
M

Fast Eddie 48
10-18-10, 00:23
I've played some high stakes poker (well high stakes poker for the phils! I'm no Ivey or Negranu of course). And I've won 80, 000 pesos last night (in a single pot).

I don't think I'll be able to spent it all, as I book hotels online in order to get cheaper rates.

My problem is that apparently you're only allowed to leave the phils with 10; 000 pesos unless you got an authorization. Even though I never had my pockets searched, I clearly want to avoid problems with phils customs.

Can I change back this amount back to euro somewhere?

Perhaps I should open a bank account, but I remember some banks create problems for people without an addy in the phils and some other (hsbsc) as far I as I remember would request client to deposit 100K. Guess I should go play again LOL.Escort,

If you are planning to visit Manila again just open a account with HSBC, it is better to have peso than change it back to USD anyway the way the US dollar is dropping, all just spend it on p4p so you don't need to worry about it.

Fast Eddie 48

Escort Fan
10-18-10, 04:14
No need to open a bank account, you wouldn't do that if you were changing Euros or Dollars into Pesos and the reverse is just the same. I have changed some of my excess Pesos back into my own currency before, just use one of the larger banks that has a foreign exchange counter.

MCool didn't knew pesos could be exchanged both ways. I change at those little malate vendors, they have the best rates, and I was always under the impression they exchanged one way €, Ł, Y, $ PHP and not vice versa.

Won another 30K last night. I'm not too sure about going to malate with 100K pesos in an fat enveloppe asking if the guy has 1, 600 EUROS in stock behind his crappy counter.:)

Anyway thanks for tip I'll try one of the larger bank in Makati.

Vandaddio
10-18-10, 06:24
Go buy some EU travellers cheques or USA.

Cunning Stunt
10-18-10, 10:01
Cool didn't knew pesos could be exchanged both ways. I change at those little malate vendors, they have the best rates, and I was always under the impression they exchanged one way €, Ł, Y, $ PHP and not vice versa.


When I want foreign currency, I always head to the places in Malate and Ermita. You get a far better rate and no questions asked. For larger amounts you might have to try two or more or accept a mix of dollars, euros and sterling but the bigger places usually hold larger amounts on the premises.

Why not just blow a large wodge on a few top escorts. At 5T each you can afford about 20:D. That would be one hell of a party with you at the centre.

Econo Tech
10-18-10, 10:11
Cool didn't knew pesos could be exchanged both ways. I change at those little malate vendors, they have the best rates, and I was always under the impression they exchanged one way €, Ł, Y, $ PHP and not vice versa.What did you think the money changer does with the US$/Euro or JPY he gets from the tourists? Put them in a washing machine and convert to Peso?

Paul C
10-18-10, 11:38
Escort Fan,

A year back I was in a similar spot. I had about 300K pesos that I needed to convert to dollars and I found that unfortunately almost every money changer could only exchange small amounts or would not exchange pesos to dollars at all.

Yes, you can open a bank account somewhat easily (just need to bring your ID and a 2"x2" photo) but the rate that you get for selling dollars is not exactly reasonable. Just walk into any BDO and you'll see what I mean.

I know you mentioned you're looking for Euros but if you need USD at all, I could offer to give you dollars for your pesos.

Paul C
10-18-10, 11:53
Is it possible to buy smartbuddy (or globe) pre paid Micro SIM card for the Iphone 4?

I jailbreaked it and ran snow whatever thinggie, so it should accept the philippine SIM.

I guess I should go to the smart office in Robinson.

But what are the prices, and how can I buy 3G credit so I can get my emails and stuff without having to worry about trafic and RIP OFF roaming at 10 EUROS per MB.

ThanksYou can get a SMART micro SIM at any SMART Wireless Center. It's P40 for a prepaid micro SIM.


You can get the micro sim for the iPhone4 and the iPad only from Globe here, and it costs Php 1,000 per month for unlimited net access and downloads. That is, if you don't want to cut down an existing sim. When I was in Singapore about a month ago, I bought a small cutting instrument designed to cut down regular-size sim cards to the micro size. It works fine as well. There are also small kiosk-like shops that offer the "trimming to micro size" service and will do it for you for a couple of dollars. I don't think you can get the sim from Globe without a plan.

GEGreenhills Theater Mall 2FL at DJGT shop will cut your SIM for free and a lot of other stalls at Greenhills and Marketmarket will cut it for P50, or free if you buy a micro SIM adapter.

Red Kilt
10-18-10, 14:34
Won another 30K last night. I'm not too sure about going to malate with 100K pesos in an fat enveloppe asking if the guy has 1, 600 EUROS in stock behind his crappy counter.:)



Are you staying in the casino EF?
Just be very very careful about who sees you winning 80,000 php at the casino. There are guys around who watch for that sort of thing and follow you home.

Like wise, when you leave the money changers with your Euros, be sure that the changer hasn't called his mate on a bike waiting around the corner who will think of a way to get his money back.

If you think I am being silly or alarmist - just check the papers and see how many people who withdraw large amounts of cash from banks rather mysteriously get robbed on their way home. Why are they specifically targeted only when they have cash in hand?
The only way the robbers could know is that someone in the bank (security guard or teller's clerk or even the teller) with the inside information has passed it on.

Believe me - scams like these are an art form in the Phils.

Jambo
10-18-10, 15:29
The only way the robbers could know is that someone in the bank (security guard or teller's clerk or even the teller) with the inside information has passed it on..
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Sammon
10-18-10, 15:36
Cool didn't knew pesos could be exchanged both ways. I change at those little malate vendors, they have the best rates, and I was always under the impression they exchanged one way €, Ł, Y, $ PHP and not vice versa.

Won another 30K last night. I'm not too sure about going to malate with 100K pesos in an fat enveloppe asking if the guy has 1, 600 EUROS in stock behind his crappy counter.:)

Anyway thanks for tip I'll try one of the larger bank in Makati.

100,000 Pesos equals to little more than $2000 U.S. International standard is you can carry up to $10,000. Not sure aout Phi law in case they search you.
You cannot carry it on your person ecause unlike other airports in Phi they pat you down at security especially in Manila. I do not know currency shows up when they scan your bags. I do not believe it does.
Some of the money you can send it out of Phi via western union. The exchange rate maybe off not to mention the charges.
If you can convert into dollars in Phi you can take the money with with no questions asked. I think it is etter to go to AC and talk to expats including bar managers. They maybe able to help you.

Escort Fan
10-18-10, 16:24
100,000 Pesos equals to little more than $2000 U.S. International standard is you can carry up to $10,000. Not sure aout Phi law in case they search you.

You cannot carry it on your person ecause unlike other airports in Phi they pat you down at security especially in Manila. I do not know currency shows up when they scan your bags. I do not believe it does.You know in €uros we have 500 EUROS notes (that's extactly 700 USD).

Once the 100K pesos is turned into 3 bills of 500 euros they can pat but 3 bills is thin.

Rubberyman
10-18-10, 22:46
Won another 30K last night. I'm not too sure about going to malate with 100K pesos in an fat enveloppe asking if the guy has 1, 600 EUROS in stock behind his crappy counter.:)

Anyway thanks for tip I'll try one of the larger bank in Makati.

I think Sammon's idea to Western Union it to yourself for collection when you get back is probably the easiest - even if it were a little more expensive, the convenience and safety of not having it on you is worth it.

Econo Tech
10-19-10, 03:21
If you think I am being silly or alarmist. Just check the papers and see how many people who withdraw large amounts of cash from banks rather mysteriously get robbed on their way home. Why are they specifically targeted only when they have cash in hand?

The only way the robbers could know is that someone in the bank (security guard or teller's clerk or even the teller) with the inside information has passed it on.And I bumped into a girl, who had saved about 3, 000 S$, and remitted the money to Phil, and when she was there, she went to the bank to withdraw it and pay the contractor to renovate her house (they never heard of cheques?) and as she walked out, she was stabbed and money was stolen. I thought it was a con story. Turned out it was a real story. As I was in Phil about a week after hearing the news, and she was still recovering from the stab wounds.

Anyway, atleast in Makati. Most of the banks have strict "no cell phones", "and no helmets" and "no scarfs" etc. And I always wondered why.

Fast Buck Artist
10-19-10, 10:36
(they never heard of cheques?) Cheques are widely forged here or dont clear for insufficient funds and nobody trusts or accepts them. Dont ask why they dont use cashier cheques I got no idea :) 3rd world country cash is king what else can be said about this manure hole.

Red Kilt
10-19-10, 17:01
I have had 3 (yes THREE) girls on DIA send me messages this evening telling me "The typhoon in Cagayan has destroyed our house - can you please help me?"

None of them lived in Northern Luzon. One actually lived in Cebu; the others in Cavite near Manila.
When I called each of them on it and asked them where they were from. I told them I know the area and I thought most of the damage was caused in northern Isabela and that I thought they were telling lies.
Each one disengaged from the conversation - no doubt to try to find some other sucker.
The Cebu girl actually sent back a one-word message saying "sorry". ROFLMAO

Be careful mates. They will try anything.

Econo Tech
10-20-10, 05:21
The Cebu girl actually sent back a one-word message saying "sorry". ROFLMAOThat's odd - when I confronted a girl in Davao for Ondoy related 'help' she turned violent accusing us foreigners of exploiting and this and that :confused: and I still dunno why she switched her story .. :D :D Maybe you got off easy

I know enough girls who have started hammering my inbox with 'assistance' and didn't bother to filter them out as the money is one-way-traffic even if asked as a loan :D Wise up.

GoodEnough
10-20-10, 12:41
I don't know how many of the guys who read this forum have also traveled widely in Africa, where day-to-day scams are the normal order of business. I spent about 5 years off and on living and/working in about 14 African countries, and when I first came here to work and live I was struck by the perception that the Philippines would fit more easily into an African context than an Asian one. The subsequent 7 years have done nothing to dispel this opinion. The pervasive, endless greed and corruption, the varied scams, both big and small (practiced by big shots and common folk), the grinding poverty and the totally inability to anticipate consequences are all reminiscent of the African continent. I wonder of there's an anthropological connection that remains as yet unidentified.

GE

Red Kilt
10-20-10, 12:57
That's odd - when I confronted a girl in Davao for Ondoy related 'help' she turned violent accusing us foreigners of exploiting and this and that :confused: and I still dunno why she switched her story .. :D :D Maybe you got off easy

I know enough girls who have started hammering my inbox with 'assistance' and didn't bother to filter them out as the money is one-way-traffic even if asked as a loan :D Wise up.

Not sure what is your point here ET? Are you telling me to wise up?
I was very aware it was a scam as I have been chatting to these girls for a long time. I know they have no connection with Cagayan Valley or Isabela (and I do) and when they realised that I was not a sucker and knew more about the Phils geography and the typhoon than they did they slunk away.

I think you were unlucky to get hit by a scorned tampo chick.

Econo Tech
10-20-10, 13:29
Not sure what is your point here ET? Are you telling me to wise up?
I was very aware it was a scam as I have been chatting to these girls for a long time. I know they have no connection with Cagayan Valley or Isabela (and I do) and when they realised that I was not a sucker and knew more about the Phils geography and the typhoon than they did they slunk away.

I think you were unlucky to get hit by a scorned tampo chick.Oops. My 'wise' up was to the other love-lorn knights in Shining armours. Not pointed at you. Relax mate. I am aware that you are smart and experienced enough.

For me. It wasn't a first time, but it was a new one on the book.

Cheers

FreebieFan
10-20-10, 15:03
I have had 3 (yes THREE) girls on DIA send me messages this evening telling me "The typhoon in Cagayan has destroyed our house. Can you please help me? "

None of them lived in Northern Luzon. One actually lived in Cebu; the others in Cavite near Manila.

When I called each of them on it and asked them where they were from. I told them I know the area and I thought most of the damage was caused in northern Isabela and that I thought they were telling lies.

Each one disengaged from the conversation. No doubt to try to find some other sucker.

The Cebu girl actually sent back a one-word message saying "sorry". ROFLMAO

Be careful mates. They will try anything.Am jealous. No one has tried any such scams with me.!

Fast Buck Artist
10-20-10, 18:28
I don't know how many of the guys who read this forum have also traveled widely in Africa, where day-to-day scams are the normal order of business. I spent about 5 years off and on living and/working in about 14 African countries, and when I first came here to work and live I was struck by the perception that the Philippines would fit more easily into an African context than an Asian one. The subsequent 7 years have done nothing to dispel this opinion. The pervasive, endless greed and corruption, the varied scams, both big and small (practiced by big shots and common folk), the grinding poverty and the totally inability to anticipate consequences are all reminiscent of the African continent. I wonder of there's an anthropological connection that remains as yet unidentified.

GESouth America has a lot in common with the Philippines. When I first came to PH. I got a striking impression that I am somewhere in Peru and not in Asia at all. The spanish/catholic colonial heritage, the plantation slavery system in the rural areas, the culture of corruption, the banana republic economics, total disregard for environment and fellow man, are all very typical of spanish colonies of south america.

Brazil and Argentina are starting to get their act together, and leaving the colonial banana republic past behind. Philippines hasnt changed one bit.

As for anthropological past, we all came from Mother Africa originally.

Questor55
10-20-10, 18:32
I don't know how many of the guys who read this forum have also traveled widely in Africa, where day-to-day scams are the normal order of business. I spent about 5 years off and on living and/working in about 14 African countries, and when I first came here to work and live I was struck by the perception that the Philippines would fit more easily into an African context than an Asian one. The subsequent 7 years have done nothing to dispel this opinion. The pervasive, endless greed and corruption, the varied scams, both big and small (practiced by big shots and common folk), the grinding poverty and the totally inability to anticipate consequences are all reminiscent of the African continent. I wonder of there's an anthropological connection that remains as yet unidentified.

GEGood stuff GE. Your parallels are indeed accurate. However, the historical and social similarities to Central America are even closer.

Do we have any members who have intimate knowledge of both PI and Central America who would care to comment ?

GregLondon
10-21-10, 01:13
Good stuff GE. Your parallels are indeed accurate. However, the historical and social similarities to Central America are even closer.

Do we have any members who have intimate knowledge of both PI and Central America who would care to comment ?

Having spent quite a bit of time in Central and South America as well as Africa and the Philippines, I would agree that though there are similarities with Africa the similarities with Central and South America are even stronger.

Tally Wacker
10-21-10, 04:07
I was previously married to a Venezuelan and spent much time there. When I landed in Manila for the first time there was no culture shock at all and I felt like I was back in Venezuela. The Philippine customs and way of life is very similar to South America. The Philippines seems to be much more populated and poverished. The Filipinas are also much more friendly and open to forigners than Venezuelans.


South America has a lot in common with the Philippines. When I first came to PH. I got a striking impression that I am somewhere in Peru and not in Asia at all. The spanish/catholic colonial heritage, the plantation slavery system in the rural areas, the culture of corruption, the banana republic economics, total disregard for environment and fellow man, are all very typical of spanish colonies of south america.

Econo Tech
10-21-10, 05:31
Am jealous. No one has tried any such scams with me.!Maybe because you paid them to leave, when the deed was done? Unlike some of us who believe in 'long term benefactor' status.

Hang on. Maybe it is just a matter of time when your jealousy will be gone.

FreebieFan
10-21-10, 13:19
Maybe because you paid them to leave, when the deed was done? Unlike some of us who believe in 'long term benefactor' status.

Hang on. Maybe it is just a matter of time when your jealousy will be gone.Things have been restored in talking to Melit_Sexy. See her profile, nice boobs.
I said hi , and maybe we should meet on my next trip.

She said " Sure, but she wanted cash if we had fun ".

Life is back to normal.

Ezinho
10-23-10, 02:40
Guys,

I'm trying to stop barebacking, so I'd like some advice on condoms available in this country. I have tried the Trust brand condoms, and it felt like my dick was wrapped in an old, burnt-out tire. Too small and no feeling at all. So, then I tried the Premier "thin" condoms and those sucked too. Just yesterday I used Durex "Featherlite" with one of my fucklets and while better than the other two brands, it's still lacking in the sensation department for me. Today I'm headed to Watsons to buy the Durex "Featherlite-Ultras". Any recommendations on other brands? I used Trojan ultra thins when I lived in the U.S. and those were decent, but I haven't seen Trojans here.

BTW, I'm in Angeles City now, but I'm actually headed to Manila late next week, so I can pick some up there as well.

Thanks.

Red Kilt
10-23-10, 03:55
Maybe because you paid them to leave, when the deed was done? Unlike some of us who believe in 'long term benefactor' status.

Hang on. Maybe it is just a matter of time when your jealousy will be gone.

It's worse than that ET and FF.

These girls who asked me for help because the typhoon had destroyed their homes were girls I had NEVER even met!!
I had chatted with them on infrequent occasions.
The fact that they tried it on me tells me that it must have been successful in the past on some other poor easily-suckered chump.
I am a bit too experienced in pinoy cunning stunts (to borrow from a fello monger) to fall for that one.

Mongrinastrlnd
10-23-10, 08:56
Guys,

I'm trying to stop barebacking, so I'd like some advice on condoms available in this country. I have tried the Trust brand condoms, and it felt like my dick was wrapped in an old, burnt-out tire. Too small and no feeling at all. So, then I tried the Premier "thin" condoms and those sucked too. Just yesterday I used Durex "Featherlite" with one of my fucklets and while better than the other two brands, it's still lacking in the sensation department for me. Today I'm headed to Watsons to buy the Durex "Featherlite-Ultras". Any recommendations on other brands? I used Trojan ultra thins when I lived in the U.S. and those were decent, but I haven't seen Trojans here.

BTW, I'm in Angeles City now, but I'm actually headed to Manila late next week, so I can pick some up there as well.

Thanks.I have varying reports of whether they're available in Philippines or not (someone said you can find them in some Watsons) but what I bring with me are Sagami Original L size, polyurethane, 0.02mm (compared to 0.055mm for the Durex you are talking about), supposed to be 3x the strength of typical latex ones.

Backslash
10-23-10, 11:17
I have posted this in another forum, however since this is my home forum, I would be very interested in the comments I receive. I was supposed to plan a trip originally in October but that has been delayed, and as of since, I have read more and learnt more, so I have a new bunch of questions. Cheers in Advance.

Hey guys, I'm a 21 Yr Old Newbie and am asking for help regarding the mongering in the Philippines. It's not my first time mongering around in South East Asia, and I have done my fair share when overseas in Hong Kong, China and Macau. A bit of background about myself, I am not handsome, nor do I think I'm ugly, and of average build. So just your average dude and nothing special. I am of a 1/2 Korean, 1/2 Chinese Background, however I have lived 20 of my 21 years in Sydney, Australia, so I am fluent in Cantonese, English and bits of pieces in Mandarin and Korean.

I have been reading the forums for the last 3 months of various websites, my home website (ISG), and other competitor websites, and feel I have a general understanding of the situations of the Philippines and would like to thank the members here for their contributions.

Firstly I am planning a 3 week trip in around January or February of next year, and would like some help. My original itinerary was perhaps 1 week in Angeles City, 1 week in Cebu, and bits and pieces in between at Boracay or Manila.

However on reading the boards, I have a couple of questions. I have coloured it out so its easier on the eyes for different questions.

Q1 I have read some feedback from other mongers and suggest that at my age, that Angeles City might not be my ideal choice of mongering and that I could try to do more time in Cebu or so on. Is that the case?
Q2. Is picking up girls in Cebu realistic in Malls ( I have heard about places in Ayala Mall or SM Mall there) Will my race be a problem? Will my age be beneficial or will it hurt me? ( I actually am very interested in picking up girls in Malls, as it just seems different to picking up bar girls) If it was realistic, then I would probably want to spend more time in Cebu. However, I have also thought since this is my cherry trip to leave things simple. So I'm not sure...
Q3. Being an Asian-Australian, will Bar Girls attempt to extort me for Korean/Japanese Prices in AC? Will they expect crazy tips or something? I mean at the end of the day, will they consider that I'm Australian or Korean/Chinese?
Q4. Would anyone be of advice to say how I should plan my trip in terms of where to go. Should I spend more time in Cebu, or Angeles, and which one to go to first? ( I was originally thinking of going to Angeles, first, sussing out the action for a week, and then try Cebu, and then if Cebu wasn't good then go back to Angeles) However on revision, I have read the forums and they have suggested perhaps maybe to go to Cebu first and try my luck first, and if that doesn't work out then go to Angeles City. Anyone else have an opinion? Because I will be arriving in Manila no matter what from Sydney, so once I arrive, I guess I have a dilemma. Either taxi straight over to AC and see how that goes first. Or I could get a connecting flight straight over to Cebu, or I could even have a night in Manila first and then try the other options. I suppose this is going to be the question I focus on a lot too because it really has me stumped. I plan to prebook my hotel for the first destination in advance, for around 5-7 days and then re-assess the options after that. But I really have no idea what to do, because I even thought since this is my cherry trip, Maybe I should keep things simple and just stick to 2 Weeks in Ac and then 5 Nights off to Boracay with the girl who im happy with most. Hope the guys here can help me on this one.
Q5. I have thought of going to Manila for perhaps 2 nights (On the night in arrival, and the night prior to departure and try my hand at Havana Cafe, or La Cafe) and perhaps maybe Airforce 1. Does anyone else advise that I should perhaps spend some time in Manila?
Q6. I don't really have a budget, I am planning to splurge on myself as I have saved up some money, and plan to spend $10000 AUD/USD in 3 weeks inclusive of hotels and play money and other incidentals. However I don't want to throw my money around, and if I can come home with a spare $1000-$3000 I don't mind either :) So with that said, I am staying planning to book the Lewis Grand Hotel in AC, the Marriot or Golden Prince in Cebu, and if I go to Manila, then maybe the Pearl Lane Hotel. Is that all ok?
Q7. With regards to AC, will my age be a problem at all there either? I realise I might be one of the young ones, but will that open me to more runners or a more GFE? Will it make girls more worried about me in the bars, or will they open up more to me?
Q8. I know this might be a weird question, but I am not sure on whether to act poorer than usual in Angeles City or just be myself. The reason I say this is because I am afraid If I just be myself, then the girls might think because I wear some nice clothes, and booked myself into a good hotel, they might think im really rich and try to take me for everything I have. So with that said, I seriously considered bringing my spare mobile phone, and act more like an expat in spending terms and refuse DLDs and so on. ( I have read the forums and won't be wearing any watches, no bling just a simple chain, and no accessories). I just think that because its my cherry trip and I have this perceived idea from the girls that since I'm staying at the Lewis Grand, I'm young, I am financially ok, they will take advantage of that against me. Anyone have any ideas?
Q9. Will it be hard to find a wingman in January/February from the forum members here who would be interested in helping me out around AC?
Q10. Am I just thinking too much? I personally think I could be, and that no matter how many times I replay what *could* happen in the Philippines regardless of whether I'm in Cebu or Angeles or Manila, it could play out different.

I have spent the last 3-4 months absorbing as much possible knowledge as I can, because this is the first time I will be in a country where I do not speak the local language for one, and the fact that I always like to monger alone. So therefore, I might be abit paranoid than the rest, but I suppose its better to be safe than sorry.

I thank anyone who spent the time to listen to me, and hope to hear from you guys soon. Cheers. Backslash.

Sammon
10-23-10, 13:18
Mongering should not be a way of life for a 21 year old guy. You need to get around socially and meet and date girls who will give you free sex. Make few girlfriends and so called booty call friends. It should not be a problem at your age.
I would suggest you enroll in dateinasia.com website and check. There are many scammers there but also many young decent girls your age. Do not send any money. Chat with them and line up to meet them and see. This site has mostly Philippino girls. If you play your cards right you might even score some virgins. Meet these girls and if the chemistry is there take them on a holiday to boracay etc. Ofcourse you need to give them some money, buy gifts etc.
Everybody needs to experience AC. It is a fun town. Age has no discrimination in this town. You will see a 70 year old man who can hardly walk with a very young girl as well as lots of Korean young guys partying with all sorts of girls young and old. I have not seen much western young men go there. There is no percieved notion of the girls extorting money from you because you look Korean. In AC there are all kinds , some splurge money on the girls and others are carefull irrespective of ethnicity.
Cebu is a better place for you to start. Once again chat with them first so that you will meet some girls in Cebu. Do not spend too much time strolling the bars looking for seasoned bargirls. You should be more oriented towards normal girls.
Spending $10,000 U.S is way too much for a three week holiday. Phi is a cheap destination. Do not let the girls scam you into buying them expensive things.
As a older man I have had no prolems meetind 18-23 year old girls who I met online. So you definitely should not have any problems. It is true that bargirls maybe better in sex but I always like GFE sex anytime with normal girls.
Finally my advice is you should date and enjoy normal girls and develop your social skills at your age rather than take the easy way out by taking bargirls or mall freelancers.

Backslash
10-23-10, 13:43
Mongering should not be a way of life for a 21 year old guy. You need to get around socially and meet and date girls who will give you free sex. Make few girlfriends and so called booty call friends. It should not be a problem at your age.
I would suggest you enroll in dateinasia.com website and check. There are many scammers there but also many young decent girls your age. Do not send any money. Chat with them and line up to meet them and see. This site has mostly Philippino girls. If you play your cards right you might even score some virgins. Meet these girls and if the chemistry is there take them on a holiday to boracay etc. Ofcourse you need to give them some money, buy gifts etc.
Everybody needs to experience AC. It is a fun town. Age has no discrimination in this town. You will see a 70 year old man who can hardly walk with a very young girl as well as lots of Korean young guys partying with all sorts of girls young and old. I have not seen much western young men go there. There is no percieved notion of the girls extorting money from you because you look Korean. In AC there are all kinds , some splurge money on the girls and others are carefull irrespective of ethnicity.
Cebu is a better place for you to start. Once again chat with them first so that you will meet some girls in Cebu. Do not spend too much time strolling the bars looking for seasoned bargirls. You should be more oriented towards normal girls.
Spending $10,000 U.S is way too much for a three week holiday. Phi is a cheap destination. Do not let the girls scam you into buying them expensive things.
As a older man I have had no prolems meetind 18-23 year old girls who I met online. So you definitely should not have any problems. It is true that bargirls maybe better in sex but I always like GFE sex anytime with normal girls.
Finally my advice is you should date and enjoy normal girls and develop your social skills at your age rather than take the easy way out by taking bargirls or mall freelancers.

Sammon, thank you for your advice. I understand you say I need to blend in socially, however, as for dating normal girls and the like, thats what I do 350 days of the year in Sydney. I guess I just want 2-3 weeks where I can have sex, have fun, and I don't care whether its P4P or not. Cheers for your response.

Starchild2012
10-23-10, 16:21
I have posted this in another forum, however since this is my home forum, I would be very interested in the comments I receive. I was supposed to plan a trip originally in October but that has been delayed, and as of since, I have read more and learnt more, so I have a new bunch of questions. Cheers in Advance.



In case you haven't heard PH or better Cebu is like a second home to Koreans of all ages and social background :). Dude, Koreans are treated with high respect and like kings in bars in PH. ( bar girls may say bad stuff once they turn over..but they do it for every nationality ...what matters is how you get treated while you with them)

Forget everything, Cebu is the best place for you period. There are 1000's of korean girls from Korea whom you can hook it up in discos if you speak korean and english combined. Cebu is the preferred destination for learning english for korean students.

I have seen korean guy's in their 20's having a blast with regular korean girls in discos and picking them up.

Why do you think more than a million koreans show up in Cebu each year, Koreans make up the highest number of tourist in Cebu. there must be something that makes korean celebrities to korean families to choose cebu than any other destinations.

You are just 21 dude, forget about money, you can make it tons of it when you cross 30's...now is the time to enjoy not count the bills..so what if you miss 100 dollars here and there...what matters is you enjoy your life to the fullest at your age...man...how i wish i found out Cebu at 21 :)

You are one lucky dude to find out about Cebu ...this is the right time...you have to just choose the right place....spend your whole three weeks in Cebu and surrounding beaches....you will have truck loads of korean as well as regular filipina girls...Hit the discos like sunflower and Julienas and see how you get treated there...man you have money, age, holidays and now Cebu...in your hands..dont let it pass over....few people on earth have all these combined.

Good Luck

Strikesfun
10-23-10, 21:04
Hope this helps try crown skinless normall found these work fine.



Guys,

I'm trying to stop barebacking, so I'd like some advice on condoms available in this country. I have tried the Trust brand condoms, and it felt like my dick was wrapped in an old, burnt-out tire. Too small and no feeling at all. So, then I tried the Premier "thin" condoms and those sucked too. Just yesterday I used Durex "Featherlite" with one of my fucklets and while better than the other two brands, it's still lacking in the sensation department for me. Today I'm headed to Watsons to buy the Durex "Featherlite-Ultras". Any recommendations on other brands? I used Trojan ultra thins when I lived in the U.S. and those were decent, but I haven't seen Trojans here.

BTW, I'm in Angeles City now, but I'm actually headed to Manila late next week, so I can pick some up there as well.

Thanks.

Mongrinastrlnd
10-23-10, 23:25
Dude, Koreans are treated with high respect and like kings in bars in PH.

Forget everything, Cebu is the best place for you period. There are 1000's of korean girls from Korea whom you can hook it up in discos if you speak korean and english combined. Cebu is the preferred destination for learning english for korean students.

Good LuckActually I had a discussion at length about the korean customers with a few girls at 3 different bars in Cebu (Red Lips, Pussycats and Sisters) and all seemed to have the same opinion: while the koreans come into the bars with an attitude and get the girl-lineups, etc., the majority of the ones in Cebu are students and only have whatever stipend that mommy and daddy are providing and in the end don't end up spending as big in the bars as they're reputed to. They all said that a japanese customer coming into a Cebu bar is much more likely to have the money to spread around.

Small sample size I know, but answers were consistent.

Cbea20
10-24-10, 01:53
I have varying reports of whether they're available in Philippines or not (someone said you can find them in some Watsons) but what I bring with me are Sagami Original L size, polyurethane, 0.02mm (compared to 0.055mm for the Durex you are talking about), supposed to be 3x the strength of typical latex ones.

Be cautious with polyurethane. First time I used one (different brand) with a GF, in the States, resulted in an unpleasant day at a local abortion clinic. During intercourse I was amazed at the natural sensation. But on withdrawal I found the top torn and the condom rolled halfway up my member.

Mongrinastrlnd
10-24-10, 03:47
Be cautious with polyurethane. First time I used one (different brand) with a GF, in the States, resulted in an unpleasant day at a local abortion clinic. During intercourse I was amazed at the natural sensation. But on withdrawal I found the top torn and the condom rolled halfway up my member.I've never had a failure with the Sagamis, unlike latex. They're japanese made and stronger than the trojan polys. Only downside is that the "L" size works out to fit normally-endowed westerners so not an option for the well-endowed.

Carmex
10-24-10, 14:55
Guys,

I'm trying to stop barebacking, so I'd like some advice on condoms available in this country. I have tried the Trust brand condoms, and it felt like my dick was wrapped in an old, burnt-out tire. Too small and no feeling at all. So, then I tried the Premier "thin" condoms and those sucked too. Just yesterday I used Durex "Featherlite" with one of my fucklets and while better than the other two brands, it's still lacking in the sensation department for me. Today I'm headed to Watsons to buy the Durex "Featherlite-Ultras". Any recommendations on other brands? I used Trojan ultra thins when I lived in the U.S. and those were decent, but I haven't seen Trojans here.

BTW, I'm in Angeles City now, but I'm actually headed to Manila late next week, so I can pick some up there as well.

Thanks.

Go online and try the Okomoto big boys (20mm). Really, those plus some Astro glide and you will feel like you are wearing nothing. I had to check several times during my last round to make sure the condom was still in place.

Just reread your post and don't know if those are available in the Phils or not, but I buy my online. Sorry:(
C.

Nvslim
10-25-10, 09:50
Go online and try the Okomoto big boys (20mm). Really, those plus some Astro glide and you will feel like you are wearing nothing. I had to check several times during my last round to make sure the condom was still in place.



Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I have been married the past 20+ years and never used a condom before (been very lucky not to catch anything deadly). Astro Glide (great stuff) on your dick first and then the condom so you slide inside the condom?

Thanks,
Slim
Slim

Backslash
10-25-10, 11:16
Can you buy Okamato's in the Philippines?

Col Law
11-01-10, 11:40
I keep messing up the timing of the boner tablet any advice thrown instructions away,

Wicked Roger
11-01-10, 18:34
I keep messing up the timing of the boner tablet any advice thrown instructions away,

Depends which tablet...and your weight and what you eat and when you eat.....and try and avoid too much alcohol.....

Here are few links....but basically try not eat eat too much fatty food before you want a boner...and usually an hour before the lady arrives. For some guys I know they take 1 an hour before and another 15 mins before as this helps a longer lasting effect :p What you depends on you and what you feel more comfortable with

Viagra
http://www.viagra.com/taking-viagra/how-to-take-viagra.aspx

Levitra
http://www.healthsquare.com/drugs/483352.htm

Cialis
http://www.healthsquare.com/drugs/483322.htm

Have fun!

Member #4351
11-01-10, 19:45
Yeah, with the questionable punctuality of Filipinas, you might consider changing from sildenafil (viagra), to cialis or levitra. That way, if you have to go to a plan b or c, the prong will still be in working order.

FreebieFan
11-02-10, 00:32
Depends which tablet...and your weight and what you eat and when you eat.....and try and avoid too much alcohol.....

Here are few links....but basically try not eat eat too much fatty food before you want a boner...and usually an hour before the lady arrives. For some guys I know they take 1 an hour before and another 15 mins before as this helps a longer lasting effect :p What you depends on you and what you feel more comfortable with

Viagra
http://www.viagra.com/taking-viagra/how-to-take-viagra.aspx

Levitra
http://www.healthsquare.com/drugs/483352.htm

Cialis
http://www.healthsquare.com/drugs/483322.htm

Have fun!Alcohol reduces the impact and so does tiredness.

So for those of us who fuck till we drop, aided and abetted by a lot of San Mig "stock up " !

Amavida
11-02-10, 04:27
I keep messing up the timing of the boner tablet any advice thrown instructions away,

Cialis.
Take one now, you're good to go anytime up to 36 hours.

You will need to experiment with dosage.
Try 5mg. If not getting the desired effect go to 10mg *next time* & in rare cases may even have to go to the 20mg if 5 or 10 did'nt do the trick.
Dosage is cumulative so if 5mg is not quite strong enough you may find that repeat 5mg dose each day may just put you over the line without increasing the individual dose.

No more than ONE pill per day or your penis may go black & fall off...

Cialis is rapidly absorbed, is not hampered by what you eat (take it any time) & will last a long time.

Can cause a little facial flushing, head ache or back ache (or is that from the shagging?) ;) Take a paracetamol...

Viagra is too short acting.
Levitra is for people with major health problems.

Cialis is available on the street in all the red light districts of PI in a generic form with a fake box. It is not fake drug. It is the real deal & cheap. It is also available in 'Drug Stores' here but at much higher cost supposedly with a prescription but most 'Drug Stores' will accept a promise to bring a script 'next time'.

if you're young & fit, go for it. If you're older with a few health problems best to see your local doc first.

AV

Starchild2012
11-02-10, 05:13
Can you buy Okamato's in the Philippines?

Yes. Its available in 7/11 and watson's pharmcay all over PH...good luck :)

Col Law
11-02-10, 06:28
Yeah, with the questionable punctuality of Filipinas, you might consider changing from sildenafil (viagra), to cialis or levitra. That way, if you have to go to a plan b or c, the prong will still be in working order. Now I understand where I have been messing up been using sildenafil change tablet I think.

Thank you

Genkisugiru
11-06-10, 03:54
Just a note to budget-conscious visitors and those planning on staying in PH for a long time or retiring here.

From July 1st to November 1st, 2010, the US Dollar has decreased in value nearly 9% vs. The PH Peso: from 46P to 42P to $1. Furthermore, inflation is nearly 5% in 2010 in PH. So the buying power of US Dollars will end up decreasing about 14% overall in 2010.

Furthermore, the PH stock market has been one of the hottest stock markets in the world in 2010, up about 35% I think. Real estate is booming, etc.

All of the above trends may be significant to your PH travel / living plans. For example, if you made your plan in early 2010 to live in PH on US $20K per year, please consider that your $20K is now worth $17K, and real estate prices are higher, etc. You might want to update any PH living / retirement plans you've made.

Satyr23
11-06-10, 07:36
Excuse my lack of knowledge, but I have been married the past 20+ years and never used a condom before (been very lucky not to catch anything deadly). Astro Glide (great stuff) on your dick first and then the condom so you slide inside the condom?

Thanks,

SlimJapanese make the thinnest condoms and they are very durable. Try Kimono, Crown, or Okomoto brands then insert lube inside before putting on! Don't use the wrong lube however that will break down the condom. Use only water soluble lubricant like KY, Astroglide, Wet Stuff, Lubafax, Le Gel, or Muko. Never use oil based lubricants or petrolium lubricants. Also try the larger sizes of these brands as they usually feel better, although it depends on the size of your penis. Hope this helps

XXL
11-06-10, 13:58
. Somebody had lodged a caveat, and he had to forego the 150, 000 US Apartment at 75, 000. And he is yet to get his money.
One lesson from this is: rent, don't buy. Don't put your money where your cock is. I wouldn't be surprised if this guy didn't get framed because they first found out he had property.

Escort Fan
11-07-10, 08:59
I'm thinking of staying in Manila for like a month. A descent hotel would be like 70* x 30 = 2, 100 USD. A bit too much for my budget.

Anyone knows where I can find short term rental for furbished appartement, either a studio or a one bedroom flat.

Thanks

Nvslim
11-07-10, 10:52
Hope this helps



It does and thanks.
Slim

Gangles
11-07-10, 11:39
There is a very serious problem with land titling in the Philippines.

In this country, there are four entities which can issue title. This means that you can never be sure that the title that you hold to any parcel of land is the only title to that parcel, and it will not be challenged.

I spent some time working on a major project to reform the land titling system in the country, and it failed. Apparently because members of the congress did not want the system to be improved.

Of course, on top of this, if your filipina wife/gf decides that she really does want your land, she will take it, no matter what pieces of paper you hold.

This means that you have two impediments to freely and securely owning your lot of land

Up to you to decide if you want to take the risk. There are many stories of land owners having their land stolen out from under their feet. Best to be sure that you will not be one of them.

I think that it is safer to buy an apartment or condo, where you do not actually own title to land.

G

Wadman
11-07-10, 13:32
Q2. Is picking up girls in Cebu realistic in Malls ( I have heard about places in Ayala Mall or SM Mall there) Will my race be a problem? Will my age be beneficial or will it hurt me? ( I actually am very interested in picking up girls in Malls, as it just seems different to picking up bar girls) If it was realistic, then I would probably want to spend more time in Cebu. However, I have also thought since this is my cherry trip to leave things simple. So I'm not sure...


Depends on what you look like. I am Chinese Canadian myself. But frequently get mistaken for a local Filipino. Not in the bars in AC, because local Filipino guys don't often frequent those bars. But on the street and in the malls, locals often start jabbering in Tagalog to me, assuming I am Filipino.



Q3. Being an Asian-Australian, will Bar Girls attempt to extort me for Korean/Japanese Prices in AC? Will they expect crazy tips or something? I mean at the end of the day, will they consider that I'm Australian or Korean/Chinese?


I am Chinese Canadian myself. Have been in AC twice in the last couple of months. Tell people your background, and nobody will expect you pay/tip like a Korean or Japanese.

If anything, they won't really know what to make/expect of you, since ethnic Chinese (from outside Philipines) are rare visitors to AC. They will probably revert to what they are most familiar with, and treat you like a (white) foreigner. Or maybe that's because of all the whiteys I hung around with.



Q7. With regards to AC, will my age be a problem at all there either? I realise I might be one of the young ones, but will that open me to more runners or a more GFE? Will it make girls more worried about me in the bars, or will they open up more to me?


The younger you are, the more the bargirls will like you. All else being equal of course.



Q8. I know this might be a weird question, but I am not sure on whether to act poorer than usual in Angeles City or just be myself. The reason I say this is because I am afraid If I just be myself, then the girls might think because I wear some nice clothes, and booked myself into a good hotel, they might think im really rich and try to take me for everything I have. So with that said, I seriously considered bringing my spare mobile phone, and act more like an expat in spending terms and refuse DLDs and so on. ( I have read the forums and won't be wearing any watches, no bling just a simple chain, and no accessories). I just think that because its my cherry trip and I have this perceived idea from the girls that since I'm staying at the Lewis Grand, I'm young, I am financially ok, they will take advantage of that against me. Anyone have any ideas?


Take a middle of the road approach with lots of common sense thrown in. Don't be too cheap to buy a Ladydrink if you are even somewhat interested in the girl, but no DLDs. Not buying LDs can get you ignored pretty good by the girls. The local expats get more attention because the girls know/have seen them before.



Q9. Will it be hard to find a wingman in January/February from the forum members here who would be interested in helping me out around AC?


Not if you buy them a drink or 2 ;-)
I was lucky enough that I flew there with a buddy, had another buddy who lives there. And got contacts from yet another buddy I know from back home. I hate barhopping on my own.



Q10. Am I just thinking too much? I personally think I could be, and that no matter how many times I replay what *could* happen in the Philippines regardless of whether I'm in Cebu or Angeles or Manila, it could play out different.


You probably are thinking too much. Get to AC, get half a dozen San Miguel's into you, and it all flows from there.

Sammon
11-07-10, 14:21
Depends on what you look like. The younger you are, the more the bargirls will like you. All else being equal of course.
You probably are thinking too much. Get to AC, get half a dozen San Miguel's into you, and it all flows from there.

In AC younger does not really mean a thing. These girls are interested in money. They think young guys do not spend enough or have enough to spend on them.
I have seem some stunners with very old looking, very fat and also some who needs a cane to walk.
One of the odd things about Phi is just that. For some reason young girls do not find it odd being with and publicly showing affection with old people good enough to be their fathers or grandfathers. It is a boon to us mongers when age is not a issue. Even normal girls does not care about the age difference.
Maybe it has something to do with them being molested by old uncles.
In most of the other countries you see young girls with old men only in rich circles, not on the street showing affection.

WestCoast1
11-07-10, 17:24
In AC younger does not really mean a thing. These girls are interested in money. They think young guys do not spend enough or have enough to spend on them.
Going to disagree with this a bit, or maybe add something. Having spent many nights and days dating both a mamasan, an older waitress, and any number of regular dancers (all of whom hang/hung with me without barfine), I will tell you what they tell me. Younger/handsome DOES mean something. They joke about "They do him free hahaha." While many girls are willing to do anything with any guy (just look at what they put up with from me) no matter his looks, there are also girls that have standards. They will not leave the bar up with older/fat/ugly. Thus, a wide variety of both likes and also what they are willing to do for a peso. If there is an established relationship between the bargirl and the man, she is much more willing to hold his hand in public, f*ck him (even for no money), act like his gf. If not, if they have only his first visit to the bar to see him (and little chance to talk to him or find out if he's nice) they are more likely to do those things based on his age/looks.

I had a 3-some a few months back in AC. After the fun as we were chatting away, we got going on this topic of gwapo and who they like and don't like. I asked if them if they were in the mall and could choose any man for a quick fun-f*ck, who would they choose? Girl A said no black men, but any other. Girl B said no filipino man, but any other. Age, I asked? And what determined which guy? They both said GWAPO. Girl A (age 26) said no older than 25. We laughed because that's younger than she is. Girl B (age 21) said at first no older than 30, then laughed and said, "Maybe 25 also." I asked if they would f*ck a handsome 40-year old man for fun and they both said no. "Not stranger. No. Not even a handsome." So, they are willing to f*ck for free a handsome 25-yr-old guy, but not a handsome 40-yr-old guy This was interesting to me, the stranger thing. I asked if they ever slept with older men who are not a stranger. "Yes sometime. If he's nice man and gwapo too. Old customer sometime."

Ah. There you have it. Its only a sample of two girls, but you can see that they prefer younger men (unless he's paying). They prefer gwapo (unless he's paying). I get this same info about the dancers from a mama and a waitress. If you are older or less handsome and a stranger, then money is the only thing that matters. If you are younger or more handsome, money matters less. They are GIRLS.


I have seem some stunners with very old looking, very fat and also some who needs a cane to walk.
One of the odd things about Phi is just that. For some reason young girls do not find it odd being with and publicly showing affection with old people good enough to be their fathers or grandfathers. It is a boon to us mongers when age is not a issue. Even normal girls does not care about the age difference.

Disagree respectfully with this. I think there is something more to add to the mix here. We've all seen the PYT with the grandpa-cano in philippines, both in AC and in the province. It seems the only country where this happens (19 y.o. girl and a 67 y.o. man with a cane and holding hands). While Sammon says "young girls do not find it odd... with old people...", I disagree. She is VERY aware of the oddity of this. She is VERY aware of what she is displaying. So is everyone else. Is it a boon for us? Yes! But, I think all the parties are aware that its some form of prostitution (the girl, the man, her family, and the public who has to view them). You will not see young girls holding hands or having an open relationship with a filipino man who is 20-30-40 years older. Given that, and the fact that she will stop being his gf the instant his money stops flowing, I think we should not delude ourselves into thinking that these girls are not averse to older men (like girls everywhere tend to be).

I was chatting a girl in Dipolog. Her pinay neighbor (age 20) got a visit from an aussie, an older fat gent (she estimated in his 60's), for a week. My friend said that while everyone turns a blind eye to them holding hands and sleeping in his hotel, "we all know she do anything now for the pisos." And, "we never do with pinoy like that." Age really is an issue, but $ can overcome that (as paper covers rock...).

Big Johnson2
11-08-10, 09:49
I need to get additional Visa pages for my passport. I was told by the U. S. Embassy to send the passport and form by Air 21/Fed Ex. They said the U.S. Embassy would then contact me and I would then go it and pay in the morning and receive it back in afternoon.
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Has anyone done this process and did it work smoothly? or was it a hassle?
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Thank you for your help.

GoodEnough
11-08-10, 11:36
I need to get additional Visa pages for my passport. I was told by the U. S. Embassy to send the passport and form by Air 21/Fed Ex. They said the U.S. Embassy would then contact me and I would then go it and pay in the morning and receive it back in afternoon.
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Has anyone done this process and did it work smoothly? or was it a hassle?
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Thank you for your help.
I just did it a couple of weeks ago, and it worked fine. The whole thing took about 3 days with no hassles at all.

GE

Paul C
11-08-10, 13:17
I just did it a couple of weeks ago, and it worked fine. The whole thing took about 3 days with no hassles at all.

GEHas anyone gotten a new passport recently? I travel frequently and I want to get the new 48-page passport. Is the US Embassy in Manila able to process it?

Sammon
11-08-10, 15:41
Going to disagree with this a bit, or maybe add something. Having spent many nights and days dating both a mamasan, an older waitress, and any number of regular dancers (all of whom hang/hung with me without barfine), I will tell you what they tell me. Younger/handsome DOES mean something. They joke about "They do him free hahaha." While many girls are willing to do anything with any guy (just look at what they put up with from me) no matter his looks, there are also girls that have standards. They will not leave the bar up with older/fat/ugly. Thus, a wide variety of both likes and also what they are willing to do for a peso. If there is an established relationship between the bargirl and the man, she is much more willing to hold his hand in public, f*ck him (even for no money), act like his gf. If not, if they have only his first visit to the bar to see him (and little chance to talk to him or find out if he's nice) they are more likely to do those things based on his age/looks.

I had a 3-some a few months back in AC. After the fun as we were chatting away, we got going on this topic of gwapo and who they like and don't like. I asked if them if they were in the mall and could choose any man for a quick fun-f*ck, who would they choose? Girl A said no black men, but any other. Girl B said no filipino man, but any other. Age, I asked? And what determined which guy? They both said GWAPO. Girl A (age 26) said no older than 25. We laughed because that's younger than she is. Girl B (age 21) said at first no older than 30, then laughed and said, "Maybe 25 also." I asked if they would f*ck a handsome 40-year old man for fun and they both said no. "Not stranger. No. Not even a handsome." So, they are willing to f*ck for free a handsome 25-yr-old guy, but not a handsome 40-yr-old guy This was interesting to me, the stranger thing. I asked if they ever slept with older men who are not a stranger. "Yes sometime. If he's nice man and gwapo too. Old customer sometime."

Ah. There you have it. Its only a sample of two girls, but you can see that they prefer younger men (unless he's paying). They prefer gwapo (unless he's paying). I get this same info about the dancers from a mama and a waitress. If you are older or less handsome and a stranger, then money is the only thing that matters. If you are younger or more handsome, money matters less. They are GIRLS.


Disagree respectfully with this. I think there is something more to add to the mix here. We've all seen the PYT with the grandpa-cano in philippines, both in AC and in the province. It seems the only country where this happens (19 y.o. girl and a 67 y.o. man with a cane and holding hands). While Sammon says "young girls do not find it odd... with old people...", I disagree. She is VERY aware of the oddity of this. She is VERY aware of what she is displaying. So is everyone else. Is it a boon for us? Yes! But, I think all the parties are aware that its some form of prostitution (the girl, the man, her family, and the public who has to view them). You will not see young girls holding hands or having an open relationship with a filipino man who is 20-30-40 years older. Given that, and the fact that she will stop being his gf the instant his money stops flowing, I think we should not delude ourselves into thinking that these girls are not averse to older men (like girls everywhere tend to be).

I was chatting a girl in Dipolog. Her pinay neighbor (age 20) got a visit from an aussie, an older fat gent (she estimated in his 60's), for a week. My friend said that while everyone turns a blind eye to them holding hands and sleeping in his hotel, "we all know she do anything now for the pisos." And, "we never do with pinoy like that." Age really is an issue, but $ can overcome that (as paper covers rock...).
You are basing your opinion on what they are saying. Ofcourse they will not admit to what is in my report. What they say and what they do are totally different. In reality if you have gone to Phi many times as I have you see very young girls with old men all the time. Even in provinces
old men have married and living with young wives. Ofcourse there is some stigma attached to it but for the sake of stable life with money the girls and their families are willing to overlook these things.
The other day I was chatting with a girl from Dia. I asked her why she is interested in foreign men. She said her friend who is 22 years old is married to a guy from Australia who is 66 years old.
Even in AC I have seen good looking girls with old men. Do not forget AC exists only because poverty is everywhere in Phi.
In an Ideal world without poverty very few young girls will go with old men.
P4P girls will go with whoever but normal girls will not.

Redman69
11-08-10, 17:15
I have a sister inlaw. Who 20 years ago was pretty. 22 years old. passed her PI nursing board. Was a registered nurse. She ran off to Cagayan Del oro with a 64 year old married doctor who had four kids. Yes he had money. Yes the family disowned her for 10 years. Yes she gave him only one son to seal the deal. Yes they are still together.

My X did not like me saying your sister is just lazy. I still stand by the statement.

It happens in PI with PI men also is my point.

Sammon
11-08-10, 18:47
I have a sister inlaw. Who 20 years ago was pretty. 22 years old. passed her PI nursing board. Was a registered nurse. She ran off to Cagayan Del oro with a 64 year old married doctor who had four kids. Yes he had money. Yes the family disowned her for 10 years. Yes she gave him only one son to seal the deal. Yes they are still together.

My X did not like me saying your sister is just lazy. I still stand by the statement.

It happens in PI with PI men also is my point.
Sex and companionship is a powerfull weapon which has been used historically by young beautifull girls to seduce rich powerfull men so that they can have a good life.
Although in our western countries it is frowned upon for a 20 something girl to be with a 60 something man, this happens in poor countries. In effect it sad. But who are we to judge?

Radical Guy
11-08-10, 20:03
Sex and companionship is a powerfull weapon which has been used historically by young beautifull girls to seduce rich powerfull men so that they can have a good life.
Although in our western countries it is frowned upon for a 20 something girl to be with a 60 something man, this happens in poor countries. In effect it sad. But who are we to judge?

That's true. After all, no one could seriously believe that Jackie Kennedy married Aristotle Onassis out of love or romantic attraction.

RadicalJD

Amavida
11-09-10, 01:26
Going to disagree with this a bit, or maybe add something. Having spent many nights and days dating both a mamasan, an older waitress, and any number of regular dancers (all of whom hang/hung with me without barfine), I will tell you what they tell me. Younger/handsome DOES mean something. They joke about "They do him free hahaha." While many girls are willing to do anything with any guy (just look at what they put up with from me) no matter his looks, there are also girls that have standards. They will not leave the bar up with older/fat/ugly. Thus, a wide variety of both likes and also what they are willing to do for a peso. If there is an established relationship between the bargirl and the man, she is much more willing to hold his hand in public, f*ck him (even for no money), act like his gf. If not, if they have only his first visit to the bar to see him (and little chance to talk to him or find out if he's nice) they are more likely to do those things based on his age/looks.

I had a 3-some a few months back in AC. After the fun as we were chatting away, we got going on this topic of gwapo and who they like and don't like. I asked if them if they were in the mall and could choose any man for a quick fun-f*ck, who would they choose? Girl A said no black men, but any other. Girl B said no filipino man, but any other. Age, I asked? And what determined which guy? They both said GWAPO. Girl A (age 26) said no older than 25. We laughed because that's younger than she is. Girl B (age 21) said at first no older than 30, then laughed and said, "Maybe 25 also." I asked if they would f*ck a handsome 40-year old man for fun and they both said no. "Not stranger. No. Not even a handsome." So, they are willing to f*ck for free a handsome 25-yr-old guy, but not a handsome 40-yr-old guy This was interesting to me, the stranger thing. I asked if they ever slept with older men who are not a stranger. "Yes sometime. If he's nice man and gwapo too. Old customer sometime."

Ah. There you have it. Its only a sample of two girls, but you can see that they prefer younger men (unless he's paying). They prefer gwapo (unless he's paying). I get this same info about the dancers from a mama and a waitress. If you are older or less handsome and a stranger, then money is the only thing that matters. If you are younger or more handsome, money matters less. They are GIRLS.


Disagree respectfully with this. I think there is something more to add to the mix here. We've all seen the PYT with the grandpa-cano in philippines, both in AC and in the province. It seems the only country where this happens (19 y.o. girl and a 67 y.o. man with a cane and holding hands). While Sammon says "young girls do not find it odd... with old people...", I disagree. She is VERY aware of the oddity of this. She is VERY aware of what she is displaying. So is everyone else. Is it a boon for us? Yes! But, I think all the parties are aware that its some form of prostitution (the girl, the man, her family, and the public who has to view them). You will not see young girls holding hands or having an open relationship with a filipino man who is 20-30-40 years older. Given that, and the fact that she will stop being his gf the instant his money stops flowing, I think we should not delude ourselves into thinking that these girls are not averse to older men (like girls everywhere tend to be).

I was chatting a girl in Dipolog. Her pinay neighbor (age 20) got a visit from an aussie, an older fat gent (she estimated in his 60's), for a week. My friend said that while everyone turns a blind eye to them holding hands and sleeping in his hotel, "we all know she do anything now for the pisos." And, "we never do with pinoy like that." Age really is an issue, but $ can overcome that (as paper covers rock...).

Congratulations mate you nailed the truth of it 100%.
Anybody who disagrees is fooling themselves.

AV

FreebieFan
11-09-10, 02:54
Congratulations mate you nailed the truth of it 100%.
Anybody who disagrees is fooling themselves.

AVIts sad to see AV how you have gone from being someone who was very happy and contented with life in Manila to someone who is clearly a lot harder and more cynical about life there.

When I lived there and I felt that life there was getting too much, I would arrange multiple business trips and being away from the place allowed the sense of fun to return.

Now I dont live there anymore I love my trips there.

Econo Tech
11-09-10, 04:59
Congratulations mate you nailed the truth of it 100%.
Anybody who disagrees is fooling themselves.

AVMe was going to add more congrats, but you did the honors. Well, as it is. That's why girls who fuck guys of their age (even for money) are not considered hookers, and those who fuck older guys are tagged as hookers. I seen enough of that, not just in Philippines, but also among the Filipino community here.

Wadman
11-09-10, 06:17
Backslash's original question was:


Q7. With regards to AC, will my age be a problem at all there either? I realise I might be one of the young ones, but will that open me to more runners or a more GFE? Will it make girls more worried about me in the bars, or will they open up more to me?


My answer to him: The younger you are, the more the bargirls will like you. All else being equal of course.

I did qualify my answer by saying " all else being equal".

Sure, we all see 20 year old Filipinas with much older guys. Not denying that. But who would they rather be with? Older guys with money, or younger guys with money?

Backslash has budgetted something like 10k USD for a 3 week trip. So I don't think money will be a problem with this young buck.

WestCoast1
11-09-10, 06:44
Sex and companionship is a powerfull weapon which has been used historically by young beautifull girls to seduce rich powerfull men so that they can have a good life.
Although in our western countries it is frowned upon for a 20 something girl to be with a 60 something man, this happens in poor countries. In effect it sad. But who are we to judge?
I think we are not beging judgemental. I think we are simply calling it what it is: the trade of youth/beauty/sex for stability and money. There's no judgement in it, I just think all parties are aware of what it is. Sometimes while everyone is aware of what is going on, the older cano don't think the girl or the locals know what is going on. That's just not true. In fact, its the elephant in the room. Whether with a cano visit, or with marriage of youth/beauty to old/fat/money, everyone knows what is going on. The problem comes when one party does not think the other party knows/cares. That's delusional thinking. The marriage of youth/beauty to old/fat/money happens everywhere, its just more open in filipines.

To the far other end of the spectrum, you also have prostitution involved in traditional marriage of similar-aged individuals. The legal definition of marriage involves financial support. The civil ceremony pledges to have and to hold. Thus, you have a juxtaposition of money and sex. Thus, marriage = legalized prostitution. :)

Red Kilt
11-09-10, 08:58
Its sad to see AV how you have gone from being someone who was very happy and contented with life in Manila to someone who is clearly a lot harder and more cynical about life there.

When I lived there and I felt that life there was getting too much, I would arrange multiple business trips and being away from the place allowed the sense of fun to return.

Now I dont live there anymore I love my trips there.

I feel the same FF.
I have lived here now for almost 14 years and I am lucky because every year I get around 2 or 3 opportunities to escape to either Australia or some other SE Asian destination for 2 or 3 months at a time because of work opportunities. I feel I would burn out if I didn't get out every now and then to recharge and enjoy different experiences.
There are more things here that I enjoy (that's why I am still here) than those that annoy me, but the things that aggravate me really push me close to the "edge" some days.
Life in the Phils is a roller-coaster of emotions (literally) and sometimes the ride changes day by day

FreebieFan
11-09-10, 09:02
I feel the same FF.

I have lived here now for almost 14 years and I am lucky because every year I get around 2 or 3 opportunities to escape to either Australia or some other SE Asian destination for 2 or 3 months at a time because of work opportunities. I feel I would burn out if I didn't get out every now and then to recharge and enjoy different experiences.

There are more things here that I enjoy (that's why I am still here) than those that annoy me, but the things that aggravate me really push me close to the "edge" some days.Just to change the subject slightly, but have you Australian gents taken the "Oz" word and turned it into a verb?

Claire_25 from Makati City says "I want to meet a nice guy who's ozzing of sex appeal and a sense of humor. "

Does this mean decent non Australian chaps like me can't apply.

Mr Enternational
11-09-10, 10:58
I am arriving in Manila at 10pm, but I am continuing on to Bangkok at 10:30am the following day. Do I still have to pay the 750 peso departure tax? What is the cutoff time to no longer be considered in transit and be subject to the tax?

I think I answered my own question from this website http://www.iatatravelcentre.com/PH-Philippines-customs-currency-airport-tax-regulations-details.htm :

Airport Embarkation Tax

Passenger Terminal Fee is levied on all passengers embarking for:
1. International travel (including Security Fee): PHP 750.-.;
2. Domestic travel: PHP 200.-.
Place of payment: Airport of departure.
Exempt:
1. Children under 2 years of age.
2. Transit passengers remaining in the transit area and not leaving the airport.
3. Crew members.

Surely they will not allow me to stay in the transit area and not leave the airport for 12 hours overnight, as well I would not want to. Looks like i will be spending the night at CityState again.

Red Kilt
11-09-10, 13:47
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Surely they will not allow me to stay in the transit area and not leave the airport for 12 hours overnight, as well I would not want to. Looks like i will be spending the night at CityState again.

And paying 750 pesos Departure Tax when you leave too.

Econo Tech
11-10-10, 03:54
Just to change the subject slightly, but have you Australian gents taken the "Oz" word and turned it into a verb?

Claire_25 from Makati City says "I want to meet a nice guy who's ozzing of sex appeal and a sense of humor. "

Does this mean decent non Australian chaps like me can't apply.Relax mate - like School is SKUL - I believe ozzing = oozing. Well, you get the picture right? It is all about the pronunciation, not how it is spelt.

Sid70
11-10-10, 06:55
On my next trip AC will be my first destination in the Phils. Are micro sim cards (iphone) that easy to buy like "normal" sim cards. I wld like to use my iphone with a prepaid micro sim card. Are they sold in any mobile shop or do I have to go to some specialized sellers? Thanks in advance for your replies.

FreebieFan
11-10-10, 08:49
On my next trip AC will be my first destination in the Phils. Are micro sim cards (iphone) that easy to buy like "normal" sim cards. I wld like to use my iphone with a prepaid micro sim card. Are they sold in any mobile shop or do I have to go to some specialized sellers? Thanks in advance for your replies.They arent available in the normal smartbuddy reload type shops but in most malls there are some "normal" phone shops as well as pc shops.. they have the micro sd cards with the adapters cards for viewing your snaps of the Yolly, Evelyn and Jhengs that you will be meeting... lol. Most malls have got the normal Kodak camera stores if you need the normal SD camera cards too.

Gumby2004
11-10-10, 13:58
On my next trip AC will be my first destination in the Phils. Are micro sim cards (iphone) that easy to buy like "normal" sim cards. I wld like to use my iphone with a prepaid micro sim card. Are they sold in any mobile shop or do I have to go to some specialized sellers? Thanks in advance for your replies.
A buddy living in Manila answered the same question for me just the other day. She told me that you have to go to the official store of the carrier of your choice, which you will find in any mall. There, they have prepaid micro sims available. You're not likely to find micros in the smaller, non-official stores that are everywhere.

Be careful while handling your gear in public.

Econo Tech
11-10-10, 14:20
Be careful while handling your gear in public.Not to be a scare monger, come Christmas, robberies and snatches go up.

As of now, the score this year, atleast 6 of my friends have lost their phones, snatched while in Jeepney / bus / MTR. And no sir, they are not the type who make up that story expecting you to replace the lost phone. Genuine cases. And most are switching to keeping the iphones at home and carrying cheaper phones. In case of loss. The loss is lesser. And on average, almost 90% of our company's Manila office staff have lost one phone or more. And all are snatch victims.

Almost happened to me atleast three times last year. One guy asking if he can take a look-see at my phone, another accidentally seeming to swipe some dust off my phone. And third bumping into me hoping I drop my phone. I always add a small lanyard to the phone that wraps around my finger, and in Phil, my N97 goes into lock up and out comes my cheap Nokia phones. And I only carry my N97 in instance where I need to take it along.

Be careful.come Christmas, be extremely careful. Maligayong Pasko. Walang celebration. So. Snatch a phone.

Jackzonian
11-10-10, 16:01
That's some good info about the sim cards, thanks. I guess it is similar for aquiring a regular sim card for local service. I have a quad-band phone already unlocked -- so it's just a question of buying a card locally and paying for some minutes, right?

Second Question: Converting US Dollars (Cash)

Do you get a better rate changing US Cash Dollars or Travelers Checks?

What about denominations? Do you get a better rate with a $100 bill vs. a $20 bill? ...or does it not really matter?

Any guidance here would be great.

I have an international ATM card from E*Trade that waives all fees. Maybe I should just use the bank ATMs locally.

thanks, jack

Mr Enternational
11-10-10, 17:29
Has anyone gotten a new passport recently? I travel frequently and I want to get the new 48-page passport. Is the US Embassy in Manila able to process it?I got one about 3 months ago, the day before the price went up astronomically. Now you will be looking at $110 for the passport, $82 for the extra pages in the big book (whereas before it was free), and if you were stateside it would be an additional $60 to expedite it. For a total of $252. I'm am not sure that they will process one for you on GP at an embassy or consulate.. I think your original would have to be lost, badly damaged, or expired. They will definitely add new pages to an existing one.

Mr Enternational
11-10-10, 18:19
On my next trip AC will be my first destination in the Phils. Are micro sim cards (iphone) that easy to buy like "normal" sim cards. I wld like to use my iphone with a prepaid micro sim card. Are they sold in any mobile shop or do I have to go to some specialized sellers? Thanks in advance for your replies.Someone in another thread said you can shave or cut down a normal SIM to fit the micro slot and it would work.

Rubberyman
11-10-10, 23:09
That's some good info about the sim cards, thanks. I guess it is similar for aquiring a regular sim card for local service. I have a quad-band phone already unlocked -- so it's just a question of buying a card locally and paying for some minutes, right?

Second Question: Converting US Dollars (Cash)

Do you get a better rate changing US Cash Dollars or Travelers Checks?

What about denominations? Do you get a better rate with a $100 bill vs. a $20 bill? ...or does it not really matter?

Any guidance here would be great.

I have an international ATM card from E*Trade that waives all fees. Maybe I should just use the bank ATMs locally.

thanks, jack

Travellers Cheques - avoid. The rate is not that important, it is finding somewhere to change them. The Phils is one place where you need to check up with your travellers cheque supplier on locations where they can be changed. IF (and it is a big IF) the hotel agrees to change them, then the rate will be crap too.

I never had a problem with the bill size. Maybe if you went down to single dollars they might have a problem, especially if it wasn't crisp and clean.

ATM cards don't necessarily work in all machines. You will definitely find machines that work, but you might have to walk a bit to access the one you need. Also the local banks put on a fee for poreigners' ATM cards, make sure your Etrade card also covers local fees.

Mongrinastrlnd
11-10-10, 23:37
I never had a problem with the bill size. Maybe if you went down to single dollars they might have a problem, especially if it wasn't crisp and clean.The money changer in Cebu at Ayala Terraces had a notice posted saying that they gave 1% less on smaller denomination notes (i.e. JPY1000, equivalent of USD12), but never seemed to enforce it.

What you do need to take care about is older US notes. Many of the changers won't accept anything but the most recent design.

Cunning Stunt
11-11-10, 03:25
ATM cards don't necessarily work in all machines. You will definitely find machines that work, but you might have to walk a bit to access the one you need. Also the local banks put on a fee for poreigners' ATM cards, make sure your Etrade card also covers local fees.

I often use a British Caxton FX pre-paid currency cards whilst travelling, which offers excellent exchange rates and no fees.

In the Philippines, I have used the card at HSBC (also allowing higher withdrawal limits) without any charges. I received a rate of about 65 pesos per pound, recently. That days rate was 67.

The card has not worked at any other bank that I have tried.

Gangles
11-11-10, 13:47
There seems to be a regular cycle of discussions about the phenomenon of younger filipinas dating or marrying older caucasian men.

Invariably, the root cause is put down to money.

But there is a whole layer of discussion which has not been touched, and which is the reality.

Every species is driven by the urge to procreate and to propagate the species.

Within each species, every member is trying to mate with one with the best genetics that they can find.

Good genetics in humans is indicated in a number of ways. For females, the indicators of good genetics are the factors which go together to determine whether a woman is seen as being beautiful or not. (the reason why men look at womens’ breasts for example is not to check how big they are, but to check on symmetry. High symmetry is a good indicator of good genetics. Every beautiful woman has high body symmetry).

For males, good genetics is indicated by strength, or power, and also the factors that make a man handsome are also good indicators of good genetics.

When it comes to power, we frequently see cases in western society where very ugly senators, rich businessmen etc are pursued by younger, beautiful women. These women are being driven by the urge to mate with a male in a position of power, because it indicates good genetics.

Likewise, among races, the white, Caucasian male is seen to be at the top of the heap in terms of power. Just because we are white men.

So young filipinas are driven by an urge to mate with a white male because she perceives that he has better genetics than other males. Lucky for us.

Simple.

It is called nature.

Cunning Stunt
11-11-10, 15:59
Likewise, among races, the white, Caucasian male is seen to be at the top of the heap in terms of power. Just because we are white men.

So young filipinas are driven by an urge to mate with a white male because she perceives that he has better genetics than other males. Lucky for us.


Heil Gangles! Mein Fuhrer!!

Are you just been provocative or are you really serious?

WestCoast1
11-11-10, 16:22
Within each species, every member is trying to mate with one with the best genetics that they can find.


Speak for yourself. I'm a member, and I'm not trying to mate with one with the best genetics. Never was. I was (and am) trying to mate with EVERY female member I can find.

:)

Sammon
11-11-10, 17:56
There seems to be a regular cycle of discussions about the phenomenon of younger filipinas dating or marrying older caucasian men.

Invariably, the root cause is put down to money.

But there is a whole layer of discussion which has not been touched, and which is the reality.

Every species is driven by the urge to procreate and to propagate the species.

Within each species, every member is trying to mate with one with the best genetics that they can find.

Good genetics in humans is indicated in a number of ways. For females, the indicators of good genetics are the factors which go together to determine whether a woman is seen as being beautiful or not. (the reason why men look at womens’ breasts for example is not to check how big they are, but to check on symmetry. High symmetry is a good indicator of good genetics. Every beautiful woman has high body symmetry).

For males, good genetics is indicated by strength, or power, and also the factors that make a man handsome are also good indicators of good genetics.

When it comes to power, we frequently see cases in western society where very ugly senators, rich businessmen etc are pursued by younger, beautiful women. These women are being driven by the urge to mate with a male in a position of power, because it indicates good genetics.

Likewise, among races, the white, Caucasian male is seen to be at the top of the heap in terms of power. Just because we are white men.

So young filipinas are driven by an urge to mate with a white male because she perceives that he has better genetics than other males. Lucky for us.

Simple.

It is called nature.
I guess you are in the wrong forum. This is a forum to find ladies with any hole to fuck. Not to procreate and natural selection process.
In mongering situation we are striving for zero procreation.
I did not know money is distributed according to genetics! We fuck, we give money, and ofcourse we run to find another willing hole for fun.
If I was looking for breast symmetry, body symmetry, height and weight average etc to check on genetics first I would never have fucked anybody.

Econo Tech
11-12-10, 03:52
Heil Gangles! Mein Fuhrer!!

Are you just been provocative or are you really serious?Heil Gangles! In my experience, yes sir, filipinas are driven to make babies by white males, but why or why not is not encoded in their brain.

Apparently they too believe that a white looking baby is going to make it big. Dunno how.

And it is proven when I have seen girls going for free sex with caucasins, and overlook the big offers from non caucasians. And their intention with the caucasians is not to extract money on the long term. But. To have a good looking baby.

Mama knows best I guess. What was your question again?

FreebieFan
11-12-10, 04:17
I just wanted to comment that Im really enjoying the content on the general site i.e. outside of the bulletin board. I just read the Bill Bruford interview, recently read the Allman Brothers review and some other reviews and Im really finding lots of useful information. Id have to say the site is getting better monthly.

Good job manRecent results are

Morton 2-1 Dunfermline
Falkirk 0-1 Ross County
Cowdenbeath 5-1 Stirling
Ayr 1-0 Airdrie
East Fife 4-1 Alloa
Forfar 1-1 Peterhead
Livingston 2-0 Dumbarton
Stenhousemuir 0-0 Brechin
Arbroath 3-2 Berwick
Clyde 1-2 East Stirlingshire

My post being about as meaningless as yours.

Jackson clean us both up...we seem to have spilled something.... lol

Whatsgoingon
11-12-10, 09:02
Recent results are

Morton 2-1 Dunfermline
Falkirk 0-1 Ross County
Cowdenbeath 5-1 Stirling
Ayr 1-0 Airdrie
East Fife 4-1 Alloa
Forfar 1-1 Peterhead
Livingston 2-0 Dumbarton
Stenhousemuir 0-0 Brechin
Arbroath 3-2 Berwick
Clyde 1-2 East Stirlingshire

My post being about as meaningless as yours.

Jackson clean us both up...we seem to have spilled something.... lol


Do you have the spanish results handy ;)

Gangles
11-12-10, 14:50
Yes, I am serious.

This is how it works.

Imagine this scenario.

A bunch of western guys are in a bar, doing the usual thing. Buy a LD for the woman that you are interested in, chat her up, maybe feel her up.

Then a japanese or Korean guy comes in.

Rings the bell, buys drinks fro the whole bar - including the guys.

Demonstration of power.

Any girl comes close to him, he buys her a drink. Demonstration of power.

You buy another drink for your girl, but she knows that the powerful guy is over there. She will naturally gravitate to the most powerful male.

When he is ready, he gets to make his choice from the best looking women in the place. And they will be pleased to mate with him. Preferably bareback.

It is called nature.

Unfortunately western people have become so far removed from the processes of nature, that they are quite ignorant.

I used to run demonstrations of the mating ritual in progress at group meetings. Or the best was when I was lecturing in the local university. When you understand how the mating ritual works, and teh basics of body language, it is just wonderful to watch nature in play.

Next time you are in a bar, watch the guys come in. Most are not alpha males. But when an alpha male comes in, the women will gravitate to him immediately. He exudes power and strong genetics.

It is always entertaining to watch what is actually happening around the bar, much more interesting than watching the dancers.

G

WestCoast1
11-12-10, 15:48
Yes, I am serious.

This is how it works.

Imagine this scenario.

A bunch of western guys are in a bar, doing the usual thing. Buy a LD for the woman that you are interested in, chat her up, maybe feel her up.

Then a japanese or Korean guy comes in.

Rings the bell, buys drinks fro the whole bar - including the guys.

Demonstration of power.

Any girl comes close to him, he buys her a drink. Demonstration of power.

You buy another drink for your girl, but she knows that the powerful guy is over there. She will naturally gravitate to the most powerful male.

When he is ready, he gets to make his choice from the best looking women in the place. And they will be pleased to mate with him. Preferably bareback.

It is called nature.

Unfortunately western people have become so far removed from the processes of nature, that they are quite ignorant.

I used to run demonstrations of the mating ritual in progress at group meetings. Or the best was when I was lecturing in the local university. When you understand how the mating ritual works, and teh basics of body language, it is just wonderful to watch nature in play.

Next time you are in a bar, watch the guys come in. Most are not alpha males. But when an alpha male comes in, the women will gravitate to him immediately. He exudes power and strong genetics.

It is always entertaining to watch what is actually happening around the bar, much more interesting than watching the dancers.

G
Correct. And not. There will be at least one (if not many) ladies in the bar who are not at all interested in the rich korean. For whatever reason. She's cherry. Mens. He's ugly. And so on.

Hesekiels
11-12-10, 22:14
Yes, I am serious... He exudes power and strong genetics...

G


ok, Gangles, and the moral of the story is? Just wondering!

Cheers!


Hesekiels

Makeupaname
11-13-10, 01:48
there are other guys in the bar ?

Freezone
11-13-10, 01:58
Speak for yourself. I'm a member, and I'm not trying to mate with one with the best genetics. Never was. I was (and am) trying to mate with EVERY female member I can find.Good thinking. And of course, this is the best tactic overall. Because by the sheer volume or numbers on your side, one will evolve with the best genetics.

Cheers

FZ

Vandaddio
11-13-10, 02:20
I was impressed by Cunning Stunts schoolgirl pics in photo gallery.

And that brought up conversation with my wing man as we are enroute to lala land.

What is the legal age?

Or legal age of consent?

We don't want to get ouselves locked up forever, and we are NOT into children, but that school girl looked yummy and very OF age.

I have heard it was 18 but someone else told me 16.

Gangles
11-13-10, 16:34
If I remember correctly, there are two ages of consent in the Philippines.

If there is no money involved, the age of consent is 12.

If there is money involved, the age of consent is 18.

Many western countries have enacted legislation which prohibits their citizens from engaging in sexual activity with a female under the age of 18, wherever she is. The persons government becomes the prosecutor, rather than the country where the activity took place. So if you are a citizen of one of these countries, then you are limited to 18+.

Citizens of other countries are not.

So, if I go to the Netherlands, where the age of consent has just been lowered to 14, I can not, as an Australian, engage in sexual activity with a 14 year old. If I do, I risk prosecution by the Australian government. Not the government of the Netherlands.

G

Cunning Stunt
11-13-10, 17:42
i was impressed by cunning stunts schoolgirl pics in photo gallery.

and that brought up conversation with my wing man as we are enroute to lala land.

what is the legal age?

or legal age of consent?

we don't want to get ouselves locked up forever, and we are not into children, but that school girl looked yummy and very of age.

i have heard it was 18 but someone else told me 16.

of course you realize that this is pure fantasy enactment, as the best role-play always is. the girl was 22 and experienced enough to slip into the part that i wanted her to play thus enabling a thoroughly pleasureable experience for her and me (filipinas love dressing up and fantasy play). i have enjoyed the same in a nurse experience (see pics) and am looking for the right girl to run-in my sexy air hostess uniform.

please, please, please don't attempt any real **** encounters. you can find enough girls in their late teens/early twenties who can easily pass for 16 to satisfy any schoolie fantasy lusts.

Rampana
11-13-10, 17:43
if i remember correctly, there are two ages of consent in the philippines.

if there is no money involved, the age of consent is 12.

if there is money involved, the age of consent is 18.


g

beware! what is told here is pure bs, guys!!
we had the same discussion in a german board some year ago.

in phils there is no legal of sex is the girl is a minor (below age of 18 yrs).

means:

hands off from **** girls.
but if you wanna see filipino prison or be a target of family blackmailing - bahala ka!!!!

lol

Wicked Roger
11-13-10, 17:46
if i remember correctly, there are two ages of consent in the philippines.

if there is no money involved, the age of consent is 12.

if there is money involved, the age of consent is 18.

many western countries have enacted legislation which prohibits their citizens from engaging in sexual activity with a female under the age of 18, wherever she is. the persons government becomes the prosecutor, rather than the country where the activity took place. so if you are a citizen of one of these countries, then you are limited to 18+.

citizens of other countries are not.

so, if i go to the netherlands, where the age of consent has just been lowered to 14, i can not, as an australian, engage in sexual activity with a 14 year old. if i do, i risk prosecution by the australian government. not the government of the netherlands.

g
these links may help or confuse depends which you read but g seems to summarise it well.

http://www.avert.org/age-of-consent.htm
http://www.ageofconsent.com/philippines.htm
http://www.sexlaws.org/changing_age_of_consent_consent_from_12_to_16_in_philipines_meets_with_some_resistance

but rest assured there will always be someone trying to scam you on an **** honey trap....

FreebieFan
11-14-10, 15:25
of course you realize that this is pure fantasy enactment, as the best role-play always is. the girl was 22 and experienced enough to slip into the part that i wanted her to play thus enabling a thoroughly pleasureable experience for her and me (filipinas love dressing up and fantasy play). i have enjoyed the same in a nurse experience (see pics) and am looking for the right girl to run-in my sexy air hostess uniform.

please, please, please don't attempt any real **** encounters. you can find enough girls in their late teens/early twenties who can easily pass for 16 to satisfy any schoolie fantasy lusts.and the ones that i posted were of a gal who was 24.

i had a few who were interested in her age too.

GoodEnough
11-15-10, 12:58
Tomorrow is another in the seemingly endless continuum of national hlidays here. The head of our finance department told me it's the 27th such day of the year so far. I think there are maybe 10 national holidays in the US, and about the same number in France. When one considers the enormous cost of national holidays, isn't it amazing that a country like the Philippines, with an economy that produces so little, can "afford" almost three times the number of holidays as much more developed, infinitely richer countries? Still another indication of what a ridculous place this is in so many ways.

GE

FreebieFan
11-15-10, 14:42
Tomorrow is another in the seemingly endless continuum of national hlidays here. The head of our finance department told me it's the 27th such day of the year so far. I think there are maybe 10 national holidays in the US, and about the same number in France. When one considers the enormous cost of national holidays, isn't it amazing that a country like the Philippines, with an economy that produces so little, can "afford" almost three times the number of holidays as much more developed, infinitely richer countries? Still another indication of what a ridculous place this is in so many ways.

GEdon't forget that many of these holidays were introduced by Gloria as a " look at me and see how enlightened I am " president. She never got any extra votes for making Ramadan a holiday in a Christian country but everyone got an extra day off so no one complained. Several were also introduced back in Estrada's time as a means of giving Filipinos an extendee weekend to spur domestic tourism. But yes, more holidays = less work = less income= less to spend.

Wicked Roger
11-15-10, 19:30
And the ones that I posted were of a gal who was 24.

I had a few who were interested in her age too.

FF

Well the one I play with is a real schoolie, 19 and naughty..as you know FF...and RK played with the peach very recently, so he can testify she is naughty

And I dont show her uniform...as she is wearing the real uniform when we have fun....that would be a bit more information than I care to sahre with you mongers...more to come tomorrow :)

Danibbler
11-16-10, 08:02
I would take what your head of finance says with a grain of salt. The Philippines only has about 20 public holidays; there may be some local holidays but it depends on the city or municipality it seems.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_holidays_in_the_Philippines

Now, here is an article listing which countries has the most public holidays but oddly enough it does not include the Philippines:

http://www.tourism-review.com/top-10-countries-having-highest-number-of-public-holidays-news1665


Tomorrow is another in the seemingly endless continuum of national hlidays here. The head of our finance department told me it's the 27th such day of the year so far. I think there are maybe 10 national holidays in the US, and about the same number in France. When one considers the enormous cost of national holidays, isn't it amazing that a country like the Philippines, with an economy that produces so little, can "afford" almost three times the number of holidays as much more developed, infinitely richer countries? Still another indication of what a ridculous place this is in so many ways.

GE

Gangles
11-16-10, 14:35
While criticising the Phils for the number of national holidays, just keep in mind that a lot of filipinos work 12 hour days, 7 days a week. Many more work 6 full days per week.

So often, the only time they get some time off is on national holidays.

Of course those that are working in retail awill work anyhow.

G

Cunning Stunt
11-16-10, 17:03
Well the one I play with is a real schoolie, 19 and naughty..as you know FF...and RK played with the peach very recently, so he can testify she is naughty

And I dont show her uniform...as she is wearing the real uniform when we have fun....that would be a bit more information than I care to sahre with you mongers...more to come tomorrow :)

Spoilsport;).

I had a 20 year old regular Fubu who often used to meet me at ST Hotels after school bringing her uniform/school books in a backpack.

As long as you block out the school crest (and the girls face if she is an amateur, as mine was) there should be no problem as often the uniforms are generic to many schools.

I'll dig out a photo and post it on the PG. Dare you to follow suit:D.

Vandaddio
11-16-10, 18:39
Thanks for the info and rest assured, we will not NEVER participate in sex with minors, and I like CS's suggestion to get a uniform and get them to act it out. More experienced also.

Do they all carry ID?

I will ID them to make sure I, m not getting set up.

Jambo
11-16-10, 22:04
the uniforms are generic to many schools.
I really prefer the Japanese school uniform. Especially when about 40 of the HS students are crossing the street at once.

Wicked Roger
11-16-10, 23:47
Spoilsport;).

I had a 20 year old regular Fubu who often used to meet me at ST Hotels after school bringing her uniform/school books in a backpack.

As long as you block out the school crest (and the girls face if she is an amateur, as mine was) there should be no problem as often the uniforms are generic to many schools.

I'll dig out a photo and post it on the PG. Dare you to follow suit:D.
LOL

In the city where she lives and I hang out when am not working my ass off in the Middle East her uniform is not generic...I can now tell what school by the dress/pants etc while sitting in Ayala having coffee. So when I do see a newbie and she is in uniform I can be sure she will not be a classmate :)

Gets me thinking that i should now set myself a task of seeing exactly how many dofferent school uniforms I can 'collect'

Vand...that is fun but nothing beats a real schoolie in her real uniform...asking for a serious spanking with a leather spanker.... and then having even more fun :p

Wicked Roger
11-16-10, 23:52
Tomorrow is another in the seemingly endless continuum of national hlidays here. The head of our finance department told me it's the 27th such day of the year so far. I think there are maybe 10 national holidays in the US, and about the same number in France. When one considers the enormous cost of national holidays, isn't it amazing that a country like the Philippines, with an economy that produces so little, can "afford" almost three times the number of holidays as much more developed, infinitely richer countries? Still another indication of what a ridculous place this is in so many ways.

GE

Now if you think that is bad try Sri Lanka. Friends work there and tell me they have so many days off to recognise every religion and it celebrations/holidays that can be impossible to get any work done on time.

Long time ago I was working there myself and the local press complained about the number of public holiday stating it totalled 167 days....:eek:

Personally I would like that..gives me more time to plan my time away from my rather stressful working life and destress :D

On a serious note, I tend to agree GE though many were working yesterday in Ayala but am sure there is a day in lieu somewhere. But we do a balance....well I do...which mean I need more time off to enjoy what I enjoy best :D

Vandaddio
11-17-10, 07:39
I assume many of you are using the SMART BRO stick?

I cannot be without my laptop and need my connection, so this is probably the smartest way to keep connected?

Or?

GoodEnough
11-17-10, 12:32
Oh Wicked One, having worked a bit in Colombo, I can attest to the veracity of what you say. There's a labor law here that forces employers to pay employees triple time for forcing them to work on national holidays. However, I don't know if that applies to large retail establishments. I know it applies in our case.


Now if you think that is bad try Sri Lanka. Friends work there and tell me they have so many days off to recognise every religion and it celebrations/holidays that can be impossible to get any work done on time.

Long time ago I was working there myself and the local press complained about the number of public holiday stating it totalled 167 days....:eek:

Personally I would like that..gives me more time to plan my time away from my rather stressful working life and destress :D

On a serious note, I tend to agree GE though many were working yesterday in Ayala but am sure there is a day in lieu somewhere. But we do a balance....well I do...which mean I need more time off to enjoy what I enjoy best :D

FreebieFan
11-17-10, 14:20
Spoilsport;).

I had a 20 year old regular Fubu who often used to meet me at ST Hotels after school bringing her uniform/school books in a backpack.

As long as you block out the school crest (and the girls face if she is an amateur, as mine was) there should be no problem as often the uniforms are generic to many schools.

I'll dig out a photo and post it on the PG. Dare you to follow suit:D.Here I am chatting with a lady with a new uniform type. She's a security guard. Only 21 and only 44 kgs but nonetheless I have pics of her posing in it. Told her I want to see her in her security guard uniform next time we meet. She's pondering the answer. LOL

Econo Tech
11-18-10, 07:07
Now if you think that is bad try Sri Lanka. Friends work there and tell me they have so many days off to recognise every religion and it celebrations/holidays that can be impossible to get any work done on time.

Long time ago I was working there myself and the local press complained about the number of public holiday stating it totalled 167 days....:eek:Nah mate, it's much less. About 30 plus to a maximum of 40 days per year. But you know what. In Asia, Sri Lanka still seem to be ranked higher in terms of productivity.: confused: but hey, as long as everybody is happy, nobody is complaining I guess.

KongKing
11-19-10, 23:44
For those down-under travelers to the land of the LBFMs*, JetStar, the Qantas budget airline, will introduce in February a direct air service Darwin to Manila three days a week. This will be a great $99AUD one way [$1AUD =$1US]; or $199 from Sydney.

And from New Zealand, in late March, JetStar will introduce a direct Auckland to Singapore flight (11 hours) which can connect with a Singapore to Manila flight, for an all up $650NZ (varies from day to day) [$1NZ =$0.78AUD/US at the moment]

* =Little Brown Fucking Machines

Red Kilt
11-20-10, 03:24
I assume many of you are using the SMART BRO stick?

I cannot be without my laptop and need my connection, so this is probably the smartest way to keep connected?

Or?

Much of a muchness Van - I use Globe Tattoo as it links to my Globe phone account too so I can reload etc.
I haven't had any connection issues with it anywhere so far. Some folks tell me Smart Bro has more coverage but so far so good for me with Globe.

Mongrinastrlnd
11-20-10, 04:38
Much of a muchness Van - I use Globe Tattoo as it links to my Globe phone account too so I can reload etc.

I haven't had any connection issues with it anywhere so far. Some folks tell me Smart Bro has more coverage but so far so good for me with Globe.Outside of Manila/Cebu I've found smart to be much better. Smart is also more generous before they totally expire your sim as well, I believe you can go up to a year at zero before you have to outright replace it.

Mc Don
11-21-10, 03:06
For those down-under travelers to the land of the LBFMs*, JetStar, the Qantas budget airline, will introduce in February a direct air service Darwin to Manila three days a week. This will be a great $99AUD one way [$1AUD =$1US]; or $199 from Sydney.

And from New Zealand, in late March, JetStar will introduce a direct Auckland to Singapore flight (11 hours) which can connect with a Singapore to Manila flight, for an all up $650NZ (varies from day to day) [$1NZ =$0.78AUD/US at the moment]

* =Little Brown Fucking Machines


Those prices are for the SPECIAL ONLY. Once the special is gone expect $400 + one way as most other JSTR destinations. The cheapest way would probably be via KL with Airasia. Having said that another option is always good...

Econo Tech
11-21-10, 10:14
And from New Zealand, in late March, JetStar will introduce a direct Auckland to Singapore flight (11 hours) which can connect with a Singapore to Manila flight, for an all up $650NZ (varies from day to day) [$1NZ =$0.78AUD/US at the moment]11 hours on an A 320? Didn't know A320 could haul so long.

Unless it is the A330s. Just curious.

KongKing
11-21-10, 22:15
11 hours on an A 320? Didn't know A320 could haul so long. Unless it is the A330s. Just curious.

Yes I can see you are a Tech man! It's OK. JetStar 3K402 departs Auckland 12.25pm local time, arrives Singapore 6.00pm local time. With 5 hours time zone difference that is 10 hours 25 minutes scheduled flight time. Let's hope, whatever the plane, it gets there!

Rubberyman
11-22-10, 01:29
For those down-under travelers to the land of the LBFMs*, JetStar, the Qantas budget airline, will introduce in February a direct air service Darwin to Manila three days a week. This will be a great $99AUD one way [$1AUD =$1US]; or $199 from Sydney.

And from New Zealand, in late March, JetStar will introduce a direct Auckland to Singapore flight (11 hours) which can connect with a Singapore to Manila flight, for an all up $650NZ (varies from day to day) [$1NZ =$0.78AUD/US at the moment]

* =Little Brown Fucking Machines

Sh*t Sh*t Sh*t!!!!!!

I just bought a ticket via Singapore two weeks ago via Sin - just wasted $$$$$ and time. Bwahhhhh!!!!

Still, in future it means I can get on a plane at 7pm in Darwin, and be in AC just before midnight same date for $300. :)

Ekspat
11-22-10, 05:13
11 hours on an A 320? Didn't know A320 could haul so long.
A320 can fly max. 5 hours. No way 11.

Fast Eddie 48
11-22-10, 06:45
A320 can fly max. 5 hours. No way 11.Eskpat,

Maybe they are flying with only one engine to save jet fuel to fly longer, that is why they call themself low cost airline.

Fast eddie 48

Econo Tech
11-22-10, 07:45
Eskpat,

Maybe they are flying with only one engine to save jet fuel to fly longer, that is why they call themself low cost airline.

Fast eddie 48That was a bit of a low-blow.

LCC don't equate to low safety carriers.

Col Law
11-23-10, 07:44
Just been hit by 3 different girls sending sms with kidney complaints all asking for 3000 peso for the doctors examination (or treatment)! does any one know of a site out there where the girls go for these stories? Has any one else been hit today also.

Hookup09
11-23-10, 10:27
Is it possible to open up a bank account in the Philliphines if you are a resident of USA?

If so what is required to set up a bank account?

Python75
11-23-10, 10:33
Just been hit by 3 different girls sending sms with kidney complaints all asking for 3000 peso for the doctors examination (or treatment)! does any one know of a site out there where the girls go for these stories? Has any one else been hit today also.Does it really matter? You should know by now that asking for money for a,b.c is a national past time for many pinays.

WestCoast1
11-23-10, 15:36
Just been hit by 3 different girls sending sms with kidney complaints all asking for 3000 peso for the doctors examination (or treatment)! does any one know of a site out there where the girls go for these stories? Has any one else been hit today also.
Fairly common for pinay to use this type of excuse. Based on the number of women who blatantly ask strangers for $, filipinas are the sickest group of people on earth. Related request: father has cancer, mom's in the hospital, and so on. About every 4th girl I chat with from DIA makes a medical request at some point. You think they'd be the healthiest people on earth, as often as they go to the doctor.

Sammon
11-23-10, 15:55
Just been hit by 3 different girls sending sms with kidney complaints all asking for 3000 peso for the doctors examination (or treatment)! does any one know of a site out there where the girls go for these stories? Has any one else been hit today also.
Doctor examinations in Phi is very cheap even if it is true. Only hospital procedure operation costs motre money but still cheap. Phi people cannot afford big medical expenses. However I do not think anybody is denied care for lack of funds.
These girls are pros in inflating the price. Some girls are nice. I had a GF from Leyte who took the bus to manila first time. The cost was around 800 pesos. But another girl in DIA wanted 3000 pesos to take a bus. When confronted she said she nededs to buy clothes etc for the trip. Maybe true , who knows? Some girls are dirt poor and do not have basis decent clothes.

Wicked Roger
11-23-10, 19:41
Is it possible to open up a bank account in the Philliphines if you are a resident of USA?

If so what is required to set up a bank account?
Yes

Look back a few pages and there is some interesting discussions on the merits or otherwise of doing this...and some discussion on which banks are best

Of course you may need to disclose it to the USA IRS....not being a US citizen I would not be sure but my US mates seem to have tell your government everything ;)

Irony Monger
11-23-10, 20:48
Of course you may need to disclose it to the USA IRS....not being a US citizen I would not be sure but my US mates seem to have tell your government everything ;)

You need to declare any foreign accounts containing USD $10,000 or greater.

ManonsanBoy
11-23-10, 21:49
A320 can fly max. 5 hours. No way 11.


A 330. No way it is a A320.

Ekspat
11-24-10, 07:04
Is it possible to open up a bank account in the Philliphines if you are a resident of USA?
I'm German living in Malaysia and have an account with HSBC in Manila.
So it should be possible for an American as well I guess.

Cheers!

Punter 127
11-24-10, 07:41
Is it possible to open up a bank account in the Philliphines if you are a resident of USA?

If so what is required to set up a bank account? I'm an American and I have both a peso and a dollar account at the Bank of Commerce. I opened my accounts in Cebu and all that was required was my passport and money.

However “Big Brother” wants to make sure he's getting his share, so foreign financial accounts must be reported yearly if the aggregate value of all foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the calendar year.

http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/article/0,,id=148849,00.html

Vitrea
11-24-10, 07:57
To me Pattaya is the number 1 spot on the planet. You will never run out of things to do there or places to go, even outside of mongering. In Manila or AC you will see guys talking about the same few places that you can count on one hand. You will never hear them talk about how they did things in those two places that did not pertain to mongering. The only pictures I can show people of when I was in Manila or AC are of the trike or me and my wingmen eating in a Chinese restaurant. I have hundreds of BKK/Pattaya pictures outside of mongering related activities.

You mentioned you didn't want mechanical but a lot of that depends on chemistry. That is why I like to shop for my hookers in the FL/Disco department instead of buying off the rack from a bar or fishbowl lineup.

It seems like the girls in the bars are under too much pressure so they tell you whatever you want to hear to get you to buy the drinks or to take them with you. Not only will you get the mechanical, runners, but you are also under time constraints because they have to be back at work at a certain time. FL are just in the disco having a good time. They are not under as much pressure and are not hounding you because there is no mamasan breathing down their necks to separate you from your money.

As far as those places go my rating would be:
1) Pattaya, 2) BKK, 3) AC, 4) Manila.

If you have never been to either then you should definitely visit the pair in each respective country, spending the least amount of time in the capitals. Hell, after all you gotta go through BKK to get to Pattaya and unless you are flying into Clark you gotta go through Manila to get to AC.

Nice input form experienced mongers. How about in the looks department? Who thinks Thai chicks are prettier (face) than Pinays? How about the bodies? I have been to Thailand a few times but never to PI but planning one soon. Based on what I am seeing in photographs, to me, Thai girls seem to have prettier faces (highly subjective?) but Pinays seems to have better bodies. Too much generalization may be but would love hear comments form folks who have been to both places.

Rebell
11-24-10, 12:44
Nice input form experienced mongers. How about in the looks department? Who thinks Thai chicks are prettier (face) than Pinays? How about the bodies? I have been to Thailand a few times but never to PI but planning one soon. Based on what I am seeing in photographs, to me, Thai girls seem to have prettier faces (highly subjective?) but Pinays seems to have better bodies. Too much generalization may be but would love hear comments form folks who have been to both places.I've been once to Thailand and once to The PI...IMHO, Thai girls have indeed prettier faces but filipinas have bigger boobs and nicer asses on the whole...My favorite is The PĎ and I'm flying back to The PI next February but Thailand is nice too and I think i will fly back to BKK and Pattaya next September.

Thai girls = PSE
Filipinas = GFE

Cunning Stunt
11-24-10, 16:37
Twenty (or even ten) years ago there would have been no contest with Thai girls well ahead on the looks front. Now I would not be so sure. I love little spinners and it is not so common to find them in Thailand as it once was. I guess its exposure to fast food (but you have jollibee etc here) but it seems that Thai girls come in much bigger sizes than used to be the case.

Another thing that I detest is the slutty tramp stamps that Thai chicks love to deface their bodies with, like graffiti on a temple. Thankfully this is still quite rare amongst young Pinays.

Questor55
11-25-10, 19:08
Cs, the Pinays are also getting 'bigger' over the last 10-15 years.

It used to be rare to see seriously chubby girls on the street. Now, not only are they a common sight, but those over 30-35 seem to be in the majority. Of course, the more upscale the mall or neighbourhood, the slimmer they are. Same holds true in North America.

Mahaba
11-25-10, 20:12
Just returned from a one week visit to AC and Subic after a 6-year absence. I'll share a few observations: Bear in mind that I lived in Subic for 3-years in the 70's and returned to PI several times since then.

1. AC has not changed much since last time. Still plenty of beer and pussy. I found the Pacific Breeze hotel to be a great venue and well located.

2. I found the larger bars to be fun but somewhat impersonal. I prefer a smaler venue where "Everyone knows your name".

3. After 3-days in AC I went to the Blue Rock Resort in Subic and hit the bars in Barrio Baretto. This was much more enjoyable as in the daytime I went jet-skiing, ate well at the resort, slept late then walked 50-feet for an ocean swim, etc.

4. The evenings were a lot of fun, as after a day at the beach, frequenting the bars in the Barrio has a theraputic effect. A few ex-pat investors have really improved the place with quality establishments and fun girls. Try places like "Bar Baretto", Lips (3-bars in one building), Wet Spot, etc.

5. Also, the resort has a nice floating bar about 300-feet offshore open between 1200-2400 with a nice group of bar-girls.

6. I allways tooK 2-girls per night so I could compare pussys and to give them something to do (talk, swim together, etc.) between sessions.

7. After the week was out, I was suntained, gained a few pounds, and had more than enough sex from some great girls.

8. Mission Accomplished.

9. Note: Buy several bags of lollypops at the local store and hand them out at the bars. The girls love it and you can get an idea of who the nasty ones are when they make an effort to show you how well they can lick a lollypop.

Col Law
11-26-10, 04:24
if it is a contest it comes down to experience, I bet the guys who can speak Thai and Issan will tell you they cant be beat for gfe . Just spoke Girl in Cebu about duties of a wife wondered what I was talking about ask an Issan girl and she will know, hers and your.

Mr Enternational
11-26-10, 07:55
Different strokes for different folks. But for me Thais win on all fronts. I was somewhat disappointed in PI. I don't like spinners. I like girls with some type of shape. The girls were cute and they looked good with clothes on. But when the clothes came off there went the shape. They had no hips nor ass to speak of. If you look in the photo thread of the Thailand section there has been an ass contest going on for the past week or so. Being a black guy I have to have a chick with some ass.

As far as looks are concerned I think Thais win on that as well. I mean after all there are several beauty shops on every corner in BKK and Pattaya. (I have been with more beautician non-pros there than any other profession.) So what I have noticed is that Thais are more refined in that they are always doing something to their hair and nails. The makeup I don't much care for but they are big on that as well. They put on their gold jewelry and all that. To me Pinays were more plain. They didn't have any of the flash that Thai's have. Sure they were cute but they were a bit simple.

And speaking of simple, as I said before, in the wits department the Pinays did not measure up. It's like their only purpose was for fucking. They tended to offer less personality-wise. From the Thais you will get such a good all-around GFE that you will forget that the ones who are hookers are actually hookers. And they won't see themselves as such either. (This also stems from the fact that there is so much more to do in Thailand besides fuck.) For them they will get just as much BFE as they give GFE. On that issue your mileage may vary though. If you are a fun guy to be around and hang out with then you will be in for a treat. If you are a fat slob and only want to buy as much pussy as your money can get you then it won't work that way for you.

On the tattoo deal I am with CS. I much more prefer a chick without tattoos, but in Thailand you won't have much of a choice. Many chicks will have extremely large ones plastered all over their bodies. In PI I didn't notice any women with tattoos.

(Pics of a hairdresser I used to deal with in Pattaya.)

GoodEnough
11-26-10, 13:20
Thanks for the insightful post Mr E. I agree that Thai girls, in general, are simply more interesting, more fun to be around, and more engaging. I also agree that it's probably related to the culture, which in Thailand in rich and vibrant, and her is, well it's hard to find what people mean by "Filipino culture," except in some vague sense. But I think much of the engaging/non-engaging phenomenon may have to do with social class as well. I was invited last night to the home of an upper middle class, well-educated Filipina for Thanksgiving dinner. There were about 18 - 20 people, about half of them expats. The Filipinos were all "upper" class, and really fun people. Their English was fluent; they were well read, and knowledgeable of world events, and just fun to be around. Of course, they're also representative of about 5% of the whole society, so admittedly it's a skewed sample.

GE

Econo Tech
11-26-10, 14:34
Thanks for the insightful post Mr E. I agree that Thai girls, in general, are simply more interesting, more fun to be around, and more engaging. I also agree that it's probably related to the culture, which in Thailand in rich and vibrant, and her is, well it's hard to find what people mean by "Filipino culture," except in some vague sense. But I think much of the engaging/non-engaging phenomenon may have to do with social class as well. I was invited last night to the home of an upper middle class, well-educated Filipina for Thanksgiving dinner. There were about 18 - 20 people, about half of them expats. The Filipinos were all "upper" class, and really fun people. Their English was fluent; they were well read, and knowledgeable of world events, and just fun to be around. Of course, they're also representative of about 5% of the whole society, so admittedly it's a skewed sample.

GEWell, I would say. Less than 5%. And me. I am fortunate enough to have met some of the 5% so. Yeah, I could say the best and best, and as smart, and intelligent and world wise and so and so. See I left out educated because most of the educated filipinos still lack the rest, and will claim that it is Filipino culture. Stuff like when invited, bringing the whole barangay, and never offering to share especially when it is a friends meeting.. And things like using somebody and then loosing the person is pretty normal. Unlike the 5%.

Yah, world apart, or maybe a galaxy apart.

But unfortunately, you don't get to see that type in bars.. Or in mongering joints.

Mahaba
11-26-10, 15:02
One common trait in both Thais and Pinays is a behavior that westerners’ think is jealousy, but in my opinion is really embarrassment.

I am talking about the girl you may have "dated" two or three times and has shown you off to her friends as her latest "hookup" and part-time ATM machine.

Then, she finds out you have strayed into greener pastures and confronts you like a "she-devil".

This is not about jealously. It is about embarrassment in front of her friends. She is embarrassed of what her friends will think of her if she can not satisfy you enough to stay with her.

I have dealt with this since the 70's when I lived in PI and frequented Thailand. I went through cycles of perpetual short-times, interrupted by occasional "steady girlfriends", usually after catching the clap.

I eventually learned to keep it simple and whenever possible go out with duos so as to keep it light and provide them both someone to talk to (one-another).

Just my two Pesos/Baht worth.

Gangles
11-26-10, 16:48
The women became angry, and/or very nervous because you caused them to lose face.

And saving face is essential in almost all asian cultures.

If they feel badly enough about losing face, they could go so far as to have you killed. Then their face is restored.

You should always treat everyone in a way that does not cause them to lose face.

G

Mc Don
11-26-10, 16:48
Thanks for the insightful post Mr E. I agree that Thai girls, in general, are simply more interesting, more fun to be around, and more engaging. I also agree that it's probably related to the culture, which in Thailand in rich and vibrant, and her is, well it's hard to find what people mean by "Filipino culture," except in some vague sense. But I think much of the engaging/non-engaging phenomenon may have to do with social class as well. I was invited last night to the home of an upper middle class, well-educated Filipina for Thanksgiving dinner. There were about 18 - 20 people, about half of them expats. The Filipinos were all "upper" class, and really fun people. Their English was fluent; they were well read, and knowledgeable of world events, and just fun to be around. Of course, they're also representative of about 5% of the whole society, so admittedly it's a skewed sample.

GE


Everything you said is 100% right. I believe the % of smarter educated Filipinos is lot higher then the 5% though. I think ppl base their opinions on bar girls only and that is wrong. There are plenty interesting ppl in both countries but we never approach or see them at least as part of our hobby. Thais for me lose out only due to their language skills and as much as I like LOS after a while it gets annoying that you cannot fully communicate with some of them. I find it these days that I can only do a week maybe 10 days max in Thailand while I could probably move to Phill...

Mr Enternational
11-26-10, 17:58
Thais for me lose out only due to their language skills and as much as I like LOS after a while it gets annoying that you cannot fully communicate with some of them. I find it these days that I can only do a week maybe 10 days max in Thailand while I could probably move to Phill...
I'm a bit different. If I start frequenting a country then I start learning the local language. It's really annoying, even frustrating, to me when my friends have been to a country 20 times and can't even say hello in the local language.

Fast Buck Artist
11-26-10, 18:15
Thanks for the insightful post Mr E. I agree that Thai girls, in general, are simply more interesting, more fun to be around, and more engaging. I also agree that it's probably related to the culture, which in Thailand in rich and vibrant, and her is, well it's hard to find what people mean by "Filipino culture," except in some vague sense.

Filipino Culture = videoke bar, cheesy dramas on TV, church and cockfights on Sunday

Physically.. Thais are prettier and Filipinas are somewhat fatter (junkfood culture) but nowhere near american levels of obesity

Personality wise.. Thais are less jealous, more willing to do anal sex and kinky stuff if thats your thing.. Filipinas speak english much better and give more of a girlfriend experience

Slippery
11-26-10, 18:18
Filipino Culture = videoke bar, cheesy dramas on TV, church and cockfights on Sunday

Physically.. Thais are prettier and Filipinas are somewhat fatter (junkfood culture) but nowhere near american levels of obesity

Personality wise.. Thais are less jealous, more willing to do anal sex and kinky stuff if thats your thing.. Filipinas speak english much better and give more of a girlfriend experienceYou forgot the worst daily television show in all of Asia. Wowwowwee

Slippery f/k/a Puerto La Cruz

Rubberyman
11-26-10, 23:12
I'm a bit different. If I start frequenting a country then I start learning the local language. It's really annoying, even frustrating, to me when my friends have been to a country 20 times and can't even say hello in the local language.

Agree whole heartedly.

The advantage of being able to say even a few words well exceeds the effort to learn.

With such aids as Pimsleur being cheap, it is easy to get up to a couple of hundred words in a month or so in almost any language.

However, it is not worth getting frustrated if others cannot see the benefit.

*shrug*

Red Kilt
11-27-10, 03:46
You forgot the worst daily television show in all of Asia. Wowwowwee
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You're out of touch Slippery.

The good news is that Wowowee has been finished for around 3 months now; the bad news is that it's been replaced by an even worse show called "Filipinas Win na Win"

Mc Don
11-27-10, 04:08
I'm a bit different. If I start frequenting a country then I start learning the local language. It's really annoying, even frustrating, to me when my friends have been to a country 20 times and can't even say hello in the local language.


I understand what you are saying but its not the same. I speak 8 languages, mostly sothern/eastern european. I travel for about 9-10 months of the year. Yes I can speak a bit of thai and tagalog but its still not the same. For me I often go on a romp the first few days and then like to settle into a nice GFE experience and perhaps go somewhere nice for few days. I find that in Philippines its much more enjoyable even though there is far less to see or do. The right girl makes up for it. What pisses me off about thailand and working girls there is that they are kind of like the italians. No matter how many tourists they get or how many customers they have that speak english some of them just can't be fucked to make the effort to learn the language.

Wicked Roger
11-27-10, 04:36
You're out of touch Slippery.

The good news is that Wowowee has been finished for around 3 months now; the bad news is that it's been replaced by an even worse show called "Filipinas Win na Win"

The only good thing about Wowwowee was the danciong girls...turn the sound off and watch as I did from the comfort of my living (always thought my preferred job was being the guy who picked the dancers for the show :) What a perfect job for me!). Even peachy says that to me...she knows I enjoyed watching the girls LOL

Not seen the new show RK but as long as it involves young slim pinays dancing in skimpy costumes I can stand it ;) with the sound off....but I have to admit those types of shows seem to be very typical in PI and mainly rubbish

Still if I could have the job of selecting the dancers...please :D

Cunning Stunt
11-27-10, 06:58
My maid watches Eat Bulaga religiously every lunchtime. If she misses it, she sulks for the rest of the day. It must be great fun if you have an IQ lower than your average goldfish:).

With regards to the lovely dancing girls that feature in all these shows - I've heard that the casting couch gets a fair battering here in The Philippines with all those young girls looking for an TV opening. Casting manager for these shows must be the best job in The Philippines:D.

Oosik
11-27-10, 08:25
Even if I'm only going to a country once I try to get the absolute basics of the language – directions, numbers, politeness (please, thank you, excuse me, etc.) but I'm afraid I'm on Mr. E's sh*t list in Thailand. I've been there maybe fifteen times and just CANNOT get past the basics. I apparently am tone deaf, and that is crippling. I think my worst moment there was when I was frantically looking something up in the dictionary – one of those that has three columns: the English word, someone's best guess at how one would spell the Thai word using western characters, and the Thai characters. Useful, because you can point to the Thai word after you've butchered the pronunciation so badly that the girl has pulled out a knife to defend what little honor she might have. At any rate, as I was looking in the left (English) column, I got a glimpse of a familiar word in the center (Thai pronunciation) column: My name! Wow! What does my name mean in Thai? I looked back at the English. My name means, uh. Well. Vagina.

I lost a lot of my manliness that evening.

I was joking about it (I was still in the denial phase) with a TG later and she didn't get it – she just stared in puzzlement. It must have taken three or four minutes to explain. Obviously the Thai word has a rising, falling, or whatever tone, so it was as different from my name is as "cat" is from "cut" At least I keep telling myself that.

Slippery
11-27-10, 12:44
You're out of touch Slippery.

The good news is that Wowowee has been finished for around 3 months now; the bad news is that it's been replaced by an even worse show called "Filipinas Win na Win"Apparently so. The show's demise didn't take long after that pervert Willie left. I will however, be there shortly for more "culture" at which time I can get introduced to Filipinas Win na Win and Eat Bulaga.