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Nvslim
05-01-11, 10:33
You can try.

www.chikka.comAppreciate it.

Slim

Econo Tech
05-01-11, 11:26
I went to visit the Philippines a few months ago. I visited with a nice girl there. A few weeks later, she send me an email that she was pregnant by me, and she wanted me to give her 15, 000 peso for abortion. I did not answer her and now she is threatening me with the Philippine government. She knows the hotel I stayed in and she said she can track me down by hotel registration or my Smart cell phone number. Is this possible?Tell her you have had your Vasectomy and see how she responds. And don't bother telling her that she can't do shit with the government threats. Filipinos are emotionally driven to the extent of killing a person and not regretting, as long as it is done to defend the honour of the country men.

Chocha Monger
05-01-11, 18:37
I went to visit the Philippines a few months ago. I visited with a nice girl there. A few weeks later, she send me an email that she was pregnant by me, and she wanted me to give her 15, 000 peso for abortion. I did not answer her and now she is threatening me with the Philippine government. She knows the hotel I stayed in and she said she can track me down by hotel registration or my Smart cell phone number. Is this possible?She is trying to scam you. Filipinas are usually delighted to be knocked up by a foreigner and abortion is highly unlikely to cross their minds. Her threats prove that she is a hardcore scammer who does this routinely. Keep ignoring her.

Azertiefou
05-01-11, 21:24
Hello,

I search agency escort in philippine who are good with real pictures of girl.

If you know a site, Thank you answer me

Brymor
05-01-11, 22:28
Hello,

I search agency escort in philippine who are good with real pictures of girl.

If you know a site, Thank you answer meWhat kind of silly games are you playing? All of your 21 posts have been logged within the last month asking the same idiotic questions in the Ukraine, Czech Republic, Dominican Republic, Thailand, Spain and Philippine threads. Why don't you do everyone a favour and stop cluttering the boards up with your idiotic questions

Redon
05-03-11, 06:01
Thanks guys for all your suggestions. I will just keep on ignoring here since there is no upside to answering her.

Econo Tech
05-03-11, 08:38
Hello,

I search agency escort in philippine who are good with real pictures of girl.

If you know a site, Thank you answer meAre you doing a research or window shopping?

Gangles
05-03-11, 10:53
I had a similar scam in similar situation recently.

A woman that I had spent a couple of days with on my last trip goes quiet, no emails or YM messages, then tells me that she is pregnant by me.

I immediately suspected a scam, because I have had a vasectomy. She knew that, but insisted that the child is mine, because she did not have sex with any other guy at that time.

My first response was to tell her that I am very happy to have a child, but I have to be sure that it is mine.

There are legal issues about registration at my embassy for citizenship, and the embassy will check everything.

What is the due date for the birth? Can I come to the hospital when the baby is born so that I can watch the birth?

I want to come to her house to talk with her about the baby, and to enjoy her pregnancy.

I asked her for her home address so that I can come to see her, and to discuss the situation with her mother, since the whole of her family will be affected.

She would not tell me her home address, or any other personal information that I asked for. I did know her full name, and her date of birth, plus the city where she lived.

I said that I will have to get a sperm count for my vasectomy.

(I did not actually do this, but I told her that the sperm count was zero, and I can not make anyone pregnant)

Then I told her that since this is a citizenship matter, I will need a DNA check to confirm that the baby is mine.

I then told her that I had gone to see an ob / gyn about the date of birth, and the ob / gyn said that it was not possible. (I did not actually do this, just told her that I did).

I asked her to take some photos, so that I could see her big belly and my baby, but none came.

Then I told her that I had engaged my attorney in the Phils for advice, since it is a matter of paternity, citizenship, and other legal responsibilities that I had.

Then I told her that my attorney had engaged a private investigator to find her home address, so that I could come to see her, and confirm that she really is 8 months pregnant. Her response is that she can met me somewhere else, no need to get her mother involved. No need for a private investigator.

Her responses to this stream of messages had become increasingly defensive, and eventually, she said that she would not ask me for money for the baby, since I did not seem to be very accepting of my situation.

My response was that I am very pleased to have a child, and very pleased to support it, but I must be sure that it really is mine, and my attorney is concerned that if the facts are not correct, then this becomes a matter of extortion and fraud.

She is now becoming hysterical, because her scam could putt her in Jail.

I told her that I had kept copies of all of her texts, emails and YM messages, because my attorney wanted this as documentation of the real situation.

All communication suddenly stopped.

Total, deathly silence.

From my perspective, the best form of defence is attack. If she is going to play hard ball, then I am going to play harder. If she is right, then I am pleased to be part of it.

If she is scamming, then the stakes for her are become higher than the potential rewards.

Turn the game around from one of defence, to one of attack.

GoodEnough
05-03-11, 11:10
Well done! The most perfect, elegant response to a scam artist that I've ever heard.

Fredje1961
05-03-11, 11:57
Actually, with girls asking for "tuition" fees, I do something similar: I want to know in which school they are enrolled, I want them to scan a document from school confirming this and I want to know their grades from previous semesters.

Only one was decent enough to provide me all this information (separated mother of three, doing a re-training as nursing assistant). She's the only one (so far) that could count on my help and support.


Well done! The most perfect, elegant response to a scam artist that I've ever heard.

Sammon
05-03-11, 17:32
My response was that I am very pleased to have a child, and very pleased to support it, but I must be sure that it really is mine, and my attorney is concerned that if the facts are not correct, then this becomes a matter of extortion and fraud.

She is now becoming hysterical, because her scam could putt her in Jail.

I told her that I had kept copies of all of her texts, emails and YM messages, because my attorney wanted this as documentation of the real situation.

From my perspective, the best form of defence is attack. If she is going to play hard ball, then I am going to play harder. If she is right, then I am pleased to be part of it.

If she is scamming, then the stakes for her are become higher than the potential rewards.

Turn the game around from one of defence, to one of attack. Best thing to do is stop communicating if you know you are unlikely to be the father.

Do not threaten any way in case you want to visit Phi often. Phi people are capable of violence if they know of your plans and find irrespective of if her complaints are baseless.

Threats do not work. In thirld world countries the police or judicial system are least worried about extortion or scam unless it includes murder, kidnapping etc.

It is practically impossible for the girl to be scared. No Phi attorneys will take your case of extortion even if you try to hire one.

This is a age old scam putting paternity even here in USA. All are lkooking for support and free money.

Brymor
05-03-11, 21:33
Best thing to do is stop communicating if you know you are unlikely to be the father.

Do not threaten any way in case you want to visit Phi often. Phi people are capable of violence if they know of your plans and find irrespective of if her complaints are baseless.

Threats do not work. In thirld world countries the police or judicial system are least worried about extortion or scam unless it includes murder, kidnapping etc.

It is practically impossible for the girl to be scared. No Phi attorneys will take your case of extortion even if you try to hire one.

This is a age old scam putting paternity even here in USA. All are lkooking for support and free money. Sammon.

My guess is that Gangles knows this already and I don't think he was suggesting hiring a Phil attorney for real. Most Filipinas that we meet are extremely poor and in comparison we are very wealthy. They know perfectly well how corrupt the judiciary and police are and threats can and do work, especially if they think you have the means to bribe the police or officials or you have some connections. IMHO they are even less likely to know which cases an attorney would or would not take on, when the client is backed up with the financial means to engage legal counsel.
I once threatened the landlady of my regular gf in Alegria when she caused some really unwarranted and upsetting mischief to my gf. I was very angry and told her I would pay the local Barangay police to arrest her and you should have seen the genuine fear on her face and her grovelling apology to my gf

Radical Guy
05-03-11, 23:50
No Phi attorneys will take your case of extortion even if you try to hire one.Are you kidding? In the Philippines, an attorney will take any case, no matter how nutzo, as long as they get their fees up front.

Screaming Beaver
05-04-11, 00:24
Are you kidding? In the Philippines, an attorney will take any case, no matter how nutzo, as long as they get their fees up front.Same goes for any dirtbag Attorney in the good old USA. It's not about winning. It's about separating you from your wallet.

FreebieFan
05-04-11, 13:11
Just to share.

I ride a big bike in Malaysia and once I bought a liquid called Rain Move. It's to put it on the visor of the helmet during rain, so that the drops don't stick to the visor. Better and clearer sight.

I had it in my backpack, forgot to take it out and used that backpack for my trip to AC. Neither in KL nor in Clark they detected it (250ml!) and the stuff is declared on the bottle as flammable!

Welcome to flight safety, hehe. On the other hand they make a huge noise because of a bottle of water.

Cheers!Hi Ekspat. Hope Malaysia treating you well. I left Manila last night to fly back to Taipei.

Was tired from too much bonking so when I come to the hand baggage check I notice there are no plastic bins for shoes. They are expected to just go on the belt. I asked the security guy why we pay p750 if they couldn't even provide plastic bins.

The guy must have heard this 1000 times. He snapped and said " Its different in Philippines, why do you white people all complain about this "." Every day I hear this same story about no plastic bins" " Go complain to my supervisor " he shouted.

So yeah they make fuss about water, we apparently make fuss that a noisy hot airport has inadequate facilities for which we and every other passenger pay P750 every exit. Philippines boleh LOL

Nvslim
05-05-11, 10:17
Looking for the SMS gateways for Smart and Global.

I do not text but want to send SMS messages to phones in the P. I. With my email program.

Can do it stateside via AT&T and other carriers.

Marconista suggested "You can try www.chikka.com", but would be more comfortable using my e-mail program.

Thanks,

Slim

Gangles
05-05-11, 15:29
If you read my post, you will see that I made no threat.

Her fear came from the possibility that a PI would actually check barungay records and find her address. And that a PI would actuallly sight her and her condition.

She created her own fear.

G

Bonkers1
05-10-11, 17:15
Just got home I will give a report of my great time in manila and cebu. I wanted to ask you did anyone have the same experience I did with immigration. The officer there said did you go to Philippines to meet your gf I said yes he told me never marry her never bring her here to USA I said why. He told me he seen to many come here and divorce they just want you to come here. I said thanks you just ruined my day he said just trying to help you.

Chocha Monger
05-10-11, 17:46
Just got home I will give a report of my great time in manila and cebu. I wanted to ask you did anyone have the same experience I did with immigration. The officer there said did you go to Philippines to meet your gf I said yes he told me never marry her never bring her here to USA I said why. He told me he seen to many come here and divorce they just want you to come here. I said thanks you just ruined my day he said just trying to help you.Yes. He was just being nice to you. He didn't tell you any lies. It's good to see that immigration was looking out for your welfare instead of harassing you.

Member #4351
05-10-11, 17:47
I received a similar comment from Immigration in Lax. Had the feeling the guy was ex-military and probaby knew what he was talking about.

Bob Bowie
05-10-11, 18:19
I received a similar comment from Immigration in Lax. Had the feeling the guy was ex-military and probaby knew what he was talking about.The guy was just giving you his advice, because he sees so many white guys thinking with their dick and overlooking the obvious.

My buddy was in the military and he said many guys get offered lots of cash for a scam marriage.

Asia Butterfly
05-10-11, 18:28
I went to visit the Philippines a few months ago. I visited with a nice girl there. A few weeks later, she send me an email that she was pregnant by me, and she wanted me to give her 15, 000 peso for abortion. I did not answer her and now she is threatening me with the Philippine government. She knows the hotel I stayed in and she said she can track me down by hotel registration or my Smart cell phone number. Is this possible?Look speaking from personal experience when I was a rookie mongering around in Cebu, I ran into the same issue with a girl that I trusted and thought we were an item, and by the way I was sending her money every month (7 months) until I got wise and when I went back, I told her that I could not support her because funds were dry and I noticed her whole behaviour towards me changed. We always used a condom however one night, I am not sure what happened, I drank too much and after sex she made it a point (drama) oh condom came off or broke, I can't remember. All I know is when I got home. 3 weeks later she tells me she missed her period and is worried because she thinks she is pregnant.

To cut a long story short, I was scared and worried but after talking to people and other filipinos here is the States, they told me she was scamming me. Sure enough she sent me an email confirming that she was pregnant and wanted to do an abortion but she had no money. Look it was a hard time for me but my Filipino friends told me that an Abortion in the filipines is a very big deal and not so easy to get done. She did threaten me that she would go to the American embassy blah blah but I did not cave in.

You should call her bluff and break yourself away from this. This is just my 2 cents. Good Luck.

A. B

Radical Guy
05-10-11, 22:30
just got home i will give a report of my great time in manila and cebu. i wanted to ask you did anyone have the same experience i did with immigration. the officer there said did you go to philippines to meet your gf i said yes he told me never marry her never bring her here to usa i said why. he told me he seen to many come here and divorce they just want you to come here. i said thanks you just ruined my day he said just trying to help you.that may be true a majority of the time, but not always. my filipina wife and i have been married for 6 years, and she's been a us citizen for 2 years. we have a 27-year age difference-our marriage is better than ever, and going strong. she still "[CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124)" me on a regular basis!

interestingly, when my wife was still my fiancee in the philippines, part of the fiancee visa process was a requirement, by the philippine government, that she attend a "counseling session" conducted by the commission on filipinos overseas (cfo) and obtain a certificate from them. otherwise, even with the passport and us visa, the philippine government wouldn't let her leave the philippines.

anyway, the cfo "counseling" is conducted by nuns who try to persuade the filipina not to marry the foreign guy, making claims that all foreign men beat and sometimes murder their brides for insurance money. they even show them a film with all sorts of horror stories. only after this day-long "counseling" do they finally issue the cfo certificate.

rg

Screaming Beaver
05-10-11, 23:53
Just got home I will give a report of my great time in manila and cebu. I wanted to ask you did anyone have the same experience I did with immigration. The officer there said did you go to Philippines to meet your gf I said yes he told me never marry her never bring her here to USA I said why. He told me he seen to many come here and divorce they just want you to come here. I said thanks you just ruined my day he said just trying to help you.This may be the first time I've actually heard of an Immigration officer actually being kind and offering sage advice instead of just hassling people for no reason other than he can and he's bored. I'd be interested in knowing the divorce rate for imported beaver from Phils. I'd guess it's around 80% based on what I've witnessed. Think about it? What LBFM beaver would have any interest in a man 30 years older than her other than his money. I know of one flip who filed for divorce as soon as the pre nup expired and took half his net worth. The reason I know is I was banging her even before she split up with the old geezer.

Zona12
05-11-11, 02:11
Are you kidding? In the Philippines, an attorney will take any case, no matter how nutzo, as long as they get their fees up front.The attorney will lean more towards the side that will give him a bigger reward to close the case.

Chocha Monger
05-11-11, 03:11
This may be the first time I've actually heard of an Immigration officer actually being kind and offering sage advice instead of just hassling people for no reason other than he can and he's bored. I'd be interested in knowing the divorce rate for imported beaver from Phils. I'd guess it's around 80% based on what I've witnessed. Think about it? What LBFM beaver would have any interest in a man 30 years older than her other than his money. I know of one flip who filed for divorce as soon as the pre nup expired and took half his net worth. The reason I know is I was banging her even before she split up with the old geezer.Screaming Beaver,

The odds of keeping imported Philippine beaver, Castor Philippinesis, in captivity for any significant length of time is about the same as the chance of being mauled by an orangutan and a silverback in the same day. Only poor guys with no assets to lose should attempt the importation of foreign beaver. Philippine beaver can be a very destructive species when released in the heavily wooded areas of the United States, Canada and Western Europe. Many elderly guys get more than they bargained for when they end up with a rabid beaver on their hands. The beaver's main aim is to migrate to areas rich in resources to provide for its family members. The beaver handler will be expected to feed the extended family or he will have to deal with an angry beaver.

Econo Tech
05-11-11, 03:57
Screaming Beaver,I would substitute Philippine beaver with "ASIAN BEAVER".

Econo Tech
05-11-11, 04:07
Screaming Beaver,I would substitute Philippine beaver with "ASIAN BEAVER".

Hairy Wonder
05-11-11, 05:25
i'm sure this type of story is told about women from every 3rd world country.


they marry just to get to america, then run away as soon as possible.i was told the same thing about the korean woman that i was married to for 21 years. funny thing is, when we divorced, she chose to stay in korea.

statistics can be skewed any way the presenter wants to skew them. what may be true for one is not necessarily true for all. i would advise any many thinking of marrying a woman from any country outside of the us to not do it. not because of the possibility of her running. but because of how badly his bank account will be raped by the us government's fees for every immigration application required. it's better to take her through mexico, and let her sneak across the border with the rest of the illegal immigrants. maybe she will then get lucky and be granted amnesty by a politician wanting to look good.

Chocha Monger
05-11-11, 12:57
Two Swedish men have been jailed for life in the Philippines for running a cybersex den in which naked women performed acts for clients watching over the Internet, a court official said Wednesday.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4834063

Bonkers1
05-11-11, 15:49
[QUOTE=Bonkers1; 1153788]Just got home I will give a report of my great time in manila and cebu. I wanted to ask you did anyone have the same experience I did with immigration. The officer there said did you go to Philippines to meet your gf I said yes he told me never marry her never bring her here to USA I said why. He told me he seen to many come here and divorce they just want you to come here. I said thanks you just ruined my day he said just trying to help you. [/QUOT.

Let me explane my feelings. I was with 3 women from dia I talked to 2 of them for 6 months they were 24, 31, and 39 years old. They all were great with sex I was suprised I thought younger would be better but all would do anything I ask and then some. I fell in love with the older one our personalitys matched we could talk for hours. Next time I was comming to Philippines I was going to ask her to marry me. I read many post here for a long time and you all helped me a lot so I respect what you tell me. Only 1 person was happy they marry. I will think hard about what you have told me about marriage. I love her and I think she loves me for me not my money I do not want to be hurt thanks for all your advice.

Xfactors
05-11-11, 15:50
Two Swedish men have been jailed for life in the Philippines for running a cybersex den in which naked women performed acts for clients watching over the Internet, a court official said Wednesday.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4834063WTF is this? So if you make some porn films in the PI, you go to prison for life? WTF?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/swedes-jailed-philippines-porn_n_860448.html

Nvslim
05-11-11, 16:43
You can try.

www.chikka.comWorks pretty good. Had to use my hotmail alias because the site would not accept my US ISP's address. Almost instantaneous testing.

Thanks again,

Slim

Econo Tech
05-12-11, 03:41
WTF is this? So if you make some porn films in the PI, you go to prison for life? WTF?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/05/11/swedes-jailed-philippines-porn_n_860448.htmlYou should be happy that GMA abolished Death penalty. And these guys were not lynched.

In asian countries, Porn / Prostitution is serious enough.

FreebieFan
05-12-11, 04:07
May I please know your ethnicity and country where you live so I might insult every fucking gene you have and country you are from? Flip = spic= nigger=whop=gunea=honkey=keik.

Are you stupid? Must be a MexicanThank you for posting what you did. I really can't understand why guys think they can denigrate another nationality. Is it a superiority thing? Filipinas are the correct term. Same as Indonesians are for that nationality.

Lets show some respect here please.

Xfactors
05-12-11, 07:41
you should be happy that gma abolished death penalty. and these guys were not lynched.

in asian countries, porn / prostitution is serious enough. well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me.

Econo Tech
05-12-11, 10:31
well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me.this is asia, and whoring and porn are not accepted. end of story.

and not legal.

and that's my 2 cents advisor to anybody who try to pick fight with bar girls in asia. they can always turn the table and make you the criminal, and one yell that you called her a working girl is enough to make the local's blood boiling to a raging fury. and after all, as the news says' they were violating the modesty of fellow country girls. regardless it was consensual or not

play safe.

ps: as i said, they got of easy. in my opinion. and in singapore, they would have been caned as well. for under-age sex. http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=5ab_1172940415

and, note that they are charged with 'trafficking' try to argue with a judge selling porn is not = trafficking.

Sammon
05-12-11, 17:45
well, i've since read some more about this case, and it looks like these two guys had some **** females working for them. that may be why they came down so hard on them. you play with **** females, you playing with fire.

i don't see why porn is so verboten in asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in asia. that seems kind of silly to me. generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.

KyCuriosity
05-12-11, 18:24
I'm planning another trip soon. I've been to sabang in PG and I took a girl with me, but she said sabang because white beach is more bars and she was very jealous. Is white beach good for picking up women? Or should I still take one with me? Also, if it's not a great place to hobby, what's the best beach to go and hobby? I've been to Angeles a couple times, but never Subic. I was thinking there, but I want a nice beach with several normal bars as well as hooker bars.

Any suggestions?

Nolz7
05-12-11, 18:48
generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.those guys hanged out with the wrong people. life sentence if you run an internet porn site but you can be a congressman if you steal millions from the government. i love this country! and oh, btw this country is run by gay and **** catholic priest.

Questor 55
05-12-11, 20:27
I don't see why porn is so verboten in Asia, when prostitution is so prevalent in Asia. That seems kind of silly to me.[/QUOTE]Interesting to note that Porn in Asia is centuries old and the evidence to prove

It is in plain sight. Elaborate, detailed and anatomically correct graphic depictions.

Of sexual (pornographic) activities can be found on temple walls in several Asian countries.

Jambo
05-12-11, 22:23
Well look at it. A police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. The country looks good putting it in the news."Look Hillary!". Busting some locals for the same thing? That would make the country look bad. Better to take the bribes.

Econo Tech
05-13-11, 04:11
generally these are double standards. locals have many of these sex dens webcam centers. locals do not care **** or whatever. local officials will say it is a means of support for them. they do not want foreigners owning or operating anything concerning the girls including bars.sorry to disappoint you. no double standards. to look good, a foreigner getting arrested, and being marked as the cause of all misery. wins votes. . .

the police chief, i am sure, is the next election candidate.

and if you guys are still trying to argue that the cops were wrong. get a life. or stay home. home. away and far away from asia.

sort of like the time in india, when i was driving and got rear ended by a local tuk-tuk. lo and behold. all the natives accused me of causing the accident, as i had stopped for a freaking red light.

i had to say sorry and drive off. rather than trying to prove who was at fault.

FreebieFan
05-13-11, 05:50
Sort of like the time in India, when I was driving and got rear ended by a local tuk-tuk. Lo and behold. All the natives accused ME of causing the accident, as I had stopped FOR A FREAKING RED LIGHT.

I had to say sorry and drive off. Rather than trying to prove who was at fault. And for sure don't go to Saudi Arabia and Kuwait.

The law, not some local rumour, but the actual law states in black and white, that in the event of an accident between a Saudi and foreigner the foreigner will ALWAYS be deemed to be at fault. The rationale behind this, is that if the foreigner wasnt in Saudi or Kuwait, then there wouldn't have been an accident so logically, the foreigner must be at fault.

Key Master
05-13-11, 05:51
I'm planning another trip soon. I've been to sabang in PG and I took a girl with me, but she said sabang because white beach is more bars and she was very jealous. Is white beach good for picking up women? Or should I still take one with me? Also, if it's not a great place to hobby, what's the best beach to go and hobby? I've been to Angeles a couple times, but never Subic. I was thinking there, but I want a nice beach with several normal bars as well as hooker bars.

Any suggestions? I'm not an expert, but I don't think you go to White Beach alone. The bar fine bars are in Sabang. I'd probably stay there and find transport to White Beach to enjoy only during the day if you don't have someone with you and I mean of the female gender.

FreebieFan
05-13-11, 08:43
Well look at it. A police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. The country looks good putting it in the news."Look Hillary!". Busting some locals for the same thing? That would make the country look bad. Better to take the bribes.Take a look at how the news is reported in many places in Asia. Bad news will generally feature " foreigners".

Read the newspapers in Malaysia and Indonesia and always crime suspects are "foreigners". Same in Philippines. Theres not many stories about how much aid is given to Philippines by foreign countries, or the foreign volunteers that help NGO's, thats not newsworthy.

Whats news worthy is to heap blame on foreigners as then the morality of the country is not impacted.

But look deeper at these type of webcam operations and the small print will always state theres a Filipina wife / girlfriend or business partner. There always is.

Radical Guy
05-13-11, 13:40
well look at it. a police captain can look good busting 2 white guys for running porn. the country looks good putting it in the news."look hillary!". busting some locals for the same thing? that would make the country look bad. better to take the bribes.this should serve as a red flag to isg members. if you take pictures of your girl, and get caught with them, maybe that could result in a life sentence. or, if she is not **** they may go easy and give you only a 25-year sentence?

i love the pictures you guys post, but be careful out there!

rg

FreebieFan
05-13-11, 14:25
this should serve as a red flag to isg members. if you take pictures of your girl, and get caught with them, maybe that could result in a life sentence. or, if she is not **** they may go easy and give you only a 25-year sentence?

i love the pictures you guys post, but be careful out there!

rgtheres a supposed interview with the two swedish guys. they also say "how come we were involved in an operation that employed adults serving adults. for which we are convicted. meanwhile theres rampant prostitution in all areas of the country." they raise the double standards / hypocracy question quite rightly.

Ekspat
05-13-11, 20:30
theres a supposed interview with the two swedish guys. they also say "how come we were involved in an operation that employed adults serving adults. for which we are convicted. meanwhile theres rampant prostitution in all areas of the country." they raise the double standards / hypocracy question quite rightly.the 2 swedish guys aren't in sweden. they're in pi. it's that simple, isn't it?

in europe hashish is more or less legal, no big deal, but i've never touched it in sea. in germany no speed limit on the highway, in sea we have it. so i accept it whether it makes sense or not. just go by the rules and stay out of these notorious businesses.

should be fine then.

Questor 55
05-13-11, 23:46
After reading several insightful comments regarding the "Swedish Porn Bust"

One can appreciate what a powerful and probing series of articles we could provide

For the S E Asian press establishment. Discrimination, hypocrisy, racism, corruption, double standards,

[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), the list goes on. They would be interested in the truth, right. Uh, right?

Fredje1961
05-14-11, 13:06
when in rome, do as the romans do.


the 2 swedish guys aren't in sweden. they're in pi. it's that simple, isn't it?

in europe hashish is more or less legal, no big deal, but i've never touched it in sea. in germany no speed limit on the highway, in sea we have it. so i accept it whether it makes sense or not. just go by the rules and stay out of these notorious businesses.

should be fine then.

Econo Tech
05-14-11, 17:31
After reading several insightful comments regarding the "Swedish Porn Bust"

One can appreciate what a powerful and probing series of articles we could provide

For the S E Asian press establishment. Discrimination, hypocrisy, racism, corruption, double standards,

[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), the list goes on. They would be interested in the truth, right. Uh, right? You may be at the receiving end. Heck, you WILL be at the receiving end for instigating trouble, domestic discord, bringing the honored press and democracy to disrepute, and last if not least, for you being an agent of a western spy organisation hell bent on destabilisation

Stay away from Asia, if you want to preach your morales. .

GreenBud
05-14-11, 19:58
I'm planning another trip soon. I've been to sabang in PG and I took a girl with me, but she said sabang because white beach is more bars and she was very jealous. Is white beach good for picking up women? Or should I still take one with me? Also, if it's not a great place to hobby, what's the best beach to go and hobby? I've been to Angeles a couple times, but never Subic. I was thinking there, but I want a nice beach with several normal bars as well as hooker bars.

Any suggestions? Your questions has been discussed numerous times, but I'll answer them. "Humans tend to repeat themselves".

White Beach has a nice beach; there are no girlie bars; there are only bars on the beach that cater to local and foreign tourists. White beach is known for its beach, not its bars. Never partied there during the night; you probably can chase tourist and local staff.

The best place in that area for P4P is Sabang; there are 7 girlie bars. Sabang is developed. But Sabang's beach is not that good. You can walk approx 25 minutes to Big Laguna for the better beach (but it's not as good as White Beach) ; there's no girlie bars in Big Laguna. You can rent a boat (? Maybe 40 minutes) or take the local land transportation (? Maybe between 40 minutes to 2 hours depending on method) to White Beach.

I normally stay in Sabang or Small Laguna. During the day, I would scuba dive or rent a boat, and have fun in the water / small islands or in White Beach, and party in Sabang during the night.

Subic has a decent beach (IMO, but some people don't like it); Subic beaches are better than Sabang, but not as good as White Beach. Subic has many more girlie bars than Sabang. I like Subic for a change of pace from Angeles; plus it's only a short trip from Angeles.

There will be "normal" bars in any area that is developed. Subic probably has the least amount of "normal" female tourists.

GoodEnough
05-14-11, 23:34
After reading several insightful comments regarding the "Swedish Porn Bust"

One can appreciate what a powerful and probing series of articles we could provide

For the S E Asian press establishment. Discrimination, hypocrisy, racism, corruption, double standards,

[CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908), the list goes on. They would be interested in the truth, right. Uh, right? This wouldn't even be news to them. The press here isn't the problem. It reports all of the above with metronomic regularity. The problem is that no one cares, and it's all accepted as "normal" in this feudal society in which corruption, abuse of power, and a non-functional justice system are integral aspects of the country and the society. Why do you think that with each passing year, it falls further and further toward the bottom of the SE Asia barrel? This is a failed state, and it has been so for several years.

GE

Chocha Monger
05-15-11, 03:23
When in Rome, do as the Romans do.Sometimes the Romans don't take too kindly to outsiders sexually exploiting their women for financial gain. The mere fact that you're in Rome doesn't grant you the same rights as a Roman. Salutor caveo!

Stroker Ace88
05-15-11, 07:31
Sorry to disappoint you. No double standards. To look good, a foreigner getting arrested, and being marked as the cause of all misery. Wins votes. . .

The police chief, I am sure, is the next election candidate.

And if you guys are still trying to argue that the cops were wrong. Get a life. Or stay home. Home. Away and far away from Asia.

Sort of like the time in India, when I was driving and got rear ended by a local tuk-tuk. Lo and behold. All the natives accused ME of causing the accident, as I had stopped FOR A FREAKING RED LIGHT.

I had to say sorry and drive off. Rather than trying to prove who was at fault. Excellent post and I could not have said it any better.

Some guys who visit SEA in general, or the Philippines more specifically bring with them a Westernized view on the way things "should be" and are more often than not the guys who find themselves in trouble at some point.

These guys also believe things should operate and run just like they do back home and they don't fully understand or accept they are in another Country with different laws and where sometimes logic and progressive thinking are often suspended, but still exists from time to time.

GoodEnough
05-15-11, 07:39
Sometimes the Romans don't take too kindly to outsiders sexually exploiting their women for financial gain. The mere fact that you're in Rome doesn't grant you the same rights as a Roman. Salutor caveo!To which I would add that the mere fact that you're a foreigner, and want to intrude into a closed, opaque oligarchy that controls most if not all of the major businesses, legal and illegal, just pisses people off.

GE

Cunning Stunt
05-15-11, 08:40
To which I would add that the mere fact that you're a foreigner, and want to intrude into a closed, opaque oligarchy that controls most if not all of the major businesses, legal and illegal, just pisses people off.

GEIn other words, you can do whatever and whoever you want as long as you don't step on any big toes or make any money from it. The poor in The Philippines are just a bunch of cash cows, there to serve the privileged 5%, and who gives a toss about them. But, hey, isn't it the same the world over?

Soapy Smith
05-15-11, 17:48
isn't it the same the world over?. . . . . Yes. . . .

Chocha Monger
05-15-11, 22:12
Jailed Swedes in Philippine cybersex 'nightmare'

Two Swedish computer experts jailed for life in the Philippines on cybersex charges say they are living a nightmare among hardened criminals and insist they did nothing wrong.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4839210

These are the consequences of doing in Rome as the Romans do when you're not a Roman. The Swedes got a little greedy and now they have to sleep with one eye on their butt holes with 5 other hardened criminals in a small cell. From the Pinoy point of view the Swedes were wealthy citizens from a rich European country who came to one of the world's most impoverished countries to take advantage of poor women for financial gain. The modern day slave trader analogy is not so far fetched in their eyes. This goes beyond the case of some random naughty tourists who like pay the local women for a root. Mongers don't profit from rooting Filipinas. In fact, they often get fleeced in the process.

Econo Tech
05-16-11, 03:43
These are the consequences of doing in Rome as the Romans do when you're not a Roman. The Swedes got a little greedy and now they have to sleep with one eye on their butt holes with 5 other hardened criminals in a small cell. From the Pinoy point of view the Swedes were wealthy citizens from a rich European country who came to one of the world's most impoverished countries to take advantage of poor women for financial gain. The modern day slave trader analogy is not so far fetched in their eyes. This goes beyond the case of some random naughty tourists who like pay the local women for a root. Mongers don't profit from rooting Filipinas. In fact, they often get fleeced in the process.To add, more often, even in Singapore, when a foreigner makes a silly comment to a pinay that she is a hooker, even though she IS A HOOKER, and in no time a dozen filipinos jump in to defend their countryman's (girl's) honour.

And it doesn't help much, when the Church is reminding that foreigners are exploiting the poor people.

Saigon John
05-16-11, 11:18
Two Swedish computer experts jailed for life in the Philippines on cybersex charges say they are living a nightmare among hardened criminals and insist they did nothing wrong.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4839210One can only feel sorry for the two unlucky Swedes.

I assume the two Swedes could not count on any real consular support from their government; a government that has made illegal to buy sexual services, but not to sell them. (Meaning only the men are guilty)

But let's keep in mind that the legal situation for men accused of sexual wrongdoing is not better in the rest of the world: The bizarre cases against IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange are example enough.

My practical conclusion is that I encrypt ALL sexually explicit material on my laptop. Better be safe than sorry. (TrueCrypt is a free and excellent option.)

GoodEnough
05-16-11, 11:25
In other words, you can do whatever and whoever you want as long as you don't step on any big toes or make any money from it. The poor in The Philippines are just a bunch of cash cows, there to serve the privileged 5%, and who gives a toss about them. But, hey, isn't it the same the world over?No, not quite the same. This is a feudal society in which any upward mobility is extremely unlikely and in some cases impossible There's an implicit caste system here that's almost as rigid as that found in India and other unenlightened places, that pretty well foreordains you to whatever life your parents have. Only the lucky ones escape abroad and realize some sort of economic gain that they promptly send back here to support the poor relatives still trapped in the circle.

GE

Soapy Smith
05-16-11, 15:32
No, not quite the same. This is a feudal society in which any upward mobility is extremely unlikely and in some cases impossible There's an implicit caste system here that's almost as rigid as that found in India and other unenlightened places, that pretty well foreordains you to whatever life your parents have. Only the lucky ones escape abroad and realize some sort of economic gain that they promptly send back here to support the poor relatives still trapped in the circle. GE

Opportunities for upward mobility may be different between the Phils and the West as a matter of degree, but as for the basic structure of corruption and hegemony in the hands of a few, the West merely has a veneer of respectability and secrecy to separate it from practices in developing countries. IMHO. Skip

"The Global Economy’s Corporate Crime Wave" by Jeffrey D. Sachs April 30, 2011
Project Synidcate: A World of Ideas

NEW YORK – The world is drowning in corporate fraud, and the problems are probably greatest in rich countries – those with supposedly “good governance.” Poor-country governments probably accept more bribes and commit more offenses, but it is rich countries that host the global companies that carry out the largest offenses. Money talks, and it is corrupting politics and markets all over the world.

Hardly a day passes without a new story of malfeasance. Every Wall Street firm has paid significant fines during the past decade for phony accounting, insider trading, securities fraud, Ponzi schemes, or outright embezzlement by CEOs. A massive insider-trading ring is currently on trial in New York, and has implicated some leading financial-industry figures. And it follows a series of fines paid by America’s biggest investment banks to settle charges of various securities violations.

There is, however, scant accountability. Two years after the biggest financial crisis in history, which was fueled by unscrupulous behavior by the biggest banks on Wall Street, not a single financial leader has faced jail. When companies are fined for malfeasance, their shareholders, not their CEOs and managers, pay the price. The fines are always a tiny fraction of the ill-gotten gains, implying to Wall Street that corrupt practices have a solid rate of return. Even today, the banking lobby runs roughshod over regulators and politicians.

Corruption pays in American politics as well. The current governor of Florida, Rick Scott, was CEO of a major health-care company known as Columbia/HCA. The company was charged with defrauding the United States government by overbilling for reimbursement, and eventually pled guilty to 14 felonies, paying a fine of $1.7 billion.
The FBI’s investigation forced Scott out of his job. But, a decade after the company’s guilty pleas, Scott is back, this time as a “free-market” Republican politician.

When Barack Obama wanted somebody to help with the bailout of the US automobile industry, he turned to a Wall Street “fixer,” Steven Rattner, even though Obama knew that Rattner was under investigation for giving kickbacks to government officials. After Rattner finished his work at the White House, he settled the case with a fine of a few million dollars.

But why stop at governors or presidential advisers? Former Vice President Dick Cheney came to the White House after serving as CEO of Halliburton. During his tenure at Halliburton, the firm engaged in illegal bribery of Nigerian officials to enable the company to win access to that country’s oil fields – access worth billions of dollars. When Nigeria’s government charged Halliburton with bribery, the company settled the case out of court, paying a fine of $35 million. Of course, there were no consequences whatsoever for Cheney. The news barely made a ripple in the US media.

Impunity is widespread – indeed, most corporate crimes go un-noticed. The few that are noticed typically end with a slap on the wrist, with the company – meaning its shareholders – picking up a modest fine. The real culprits at the top of these companies rarely need to worry. Even when firms pay mega-fines, their CEOs remain. The shareholders are so dispersed and powerless that they exercise little control over the management.

The explosion of corruption – in the US, Europe, China, India, Africa, Brazil, and beyond – raises a host of challenging questions about its causes, and about how to control it now that it has reached epidemic proportions.
Corporate corruption is out of control for two main reasons. First, big companies are now multinational, while governments remain national. Big companies are so financially powerful that governments are afraid to take them on.

Second, companies are the major funders of political campaigns in places like the US, while politicians themselves are often part owners, or at least the silent beneficiaries of corporate profits. Roughly one-half of US Congressmen are millionaires, and many have close ties to companies even before they arrive in Congress.

As a result, politicians often look the other way when corporate behavior crosses the line. Even if governments try to enforce the law, companies have armies of lawyers to run circles around them. The result is a culture of impunity, based on the well-proven expectation that corporate crime pays.

Given the close connections of wealth and power with the law, reining in corporate crime will be an enormous struggle. Fortunately, the rapid and pervasive flow of information nowadays could act as a kind of deterrent or disinfectant. Corruption thrives in the dark, yet more information than ever comes to light via email and blogs, as well as Facebook, Twitter, and other social networks.

We will also need a new kind of politician leading a new kind of political campaign, one based on free online media rather than paid media. When politicians can emancipate themselves from corporate donations, they will regain the ability to control corporate abuses.

Moreover, we will need to light the dark corners of international finance, especially tax havens like the Cayman Islands and secretive Swiss banks. Tax evasion, kickbacks, illegal payments, bribes, and other illegal transactions flow through these accounts. The wealth, power, and illegality enabled by this hidden system are now so vast as to threaten the global economy’s legitimacy, especially at a time of unprecedented income inequality and large budget deficits, owing to governments’ inability politically – and sometimes even operationally – to impose taxes on the wealthy.

So the next time you hear about a corruption scandal in Africa or other poor region, ask where it started and who is doing the corrupting. Neither the US nor any other “advanced” country should be pointing the finger at poor countries, for it is often the most powerful global companies that have created the problem.

Jeffrey D. Sachs is Professor of Economics and Director of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. He is also Special Adviser to United Nations Secretary-General on the Millennium Development Goals.

Chocha Monger
05-16-11, 20:27
One can only feel sorry for the two unlucky Swedes.

I assume the two Swedes could not count on any real consular support from their government; a government that has made illegal to buy sexual services, but not to sell them. (Meaning only the men are guilty)

But let's keep in mind that the legal situation for men accused of sexual wrongdoing is not better in the rest of the world: The bizarre cases against IMF Managing Director Dominique Strauss-Kahn and Wikileaks founder Julian Assange are example enough.

My practical conclusion is that I encrypt ALL sexually explicit material on my laptop. Better be safe than sorry. (TrueCrypt is a free and excellent option.) I'm all for fair treatment of men by the courts in these types of cases but old Strauss-Kahn seems to have a history of making maids suck his cork. It doesn't look too good for him. His employer, the IMF, also has a history of making poor countries suck cork and that will not endear him to any jury.

Soapy Smith
05-17-11, 01:24
His employer, the IMF, also has a history of making poor countries suck cork and that will not endear him to any jury.Except that the jury will not be composed of Third World residents. If there is ever a jury at all.

Fast Eddie 48
05-18-11, 01:23
I'm all for fair treatment of men by the courts in these types of cases but old Strauss-Kahn seems to have a history of making maids suck his cork. It doesn't look too good for him. His employer, the IMF, also has a history of making poor countries suck cork and that will not endear him to any jury.To Chocha,

Kahn pick a wrong country and a wrong city New York is a high profile city to do his thing, I like to see him buy his way out of this one, if he did this in PI he can just buy his way out the PI government will be happy to get a large Loan for the IMF.

Fast Eddie 48

Rick Rock
05-18-11, 05:13
Fellows,

Read the forum but couldn't get a real sense of this. Is it easier / more common to get butt sex in the Philippines or Thailand?

FreebieFan
05-18-11, 07:36
Its funny how in the Philippines, Globe, winning hearts mind and millions for the Ayala boys, portrays itself as serving the nation by providing digital networks to the country, by offereing special promos to balikbayans, promotions at Christmas and Holy Week to " help the nation communicate better "

BPI is similar in its advertising. Also part of the Ayala franchise.

Also a family who is happy to be in the top 5% in oncome earners and who has no interest in sharing the wealth, hence ther entrenched and permanent poverty.

So today I had to smile (actually I laughed!) when reading how Globe is now against the deal that JG Summit has with PLDT that will ensure Globes margins reduce, and that its market share will reduce.

Globes legal counsel was calling the deal "unfair ". Well I don't recall Globe thought anything was unfair when it and Smart each shared 50% of the cellular digital market.

AussieDoug
05-18-11, 12:11
YMMV, but I don't ask for it, it's not very nice for the recipient, buggers up the sphincter muscle and they wind up having to wear a nappy like Elton John to stop them shitting down their legs. Never could understand why a hetero man would want to do this anyway, unless he's a closet fudgepacker.

Rick Rock; 1156557]Fellows,

Read the forum but couldn't get a real sense of this. Is it easier / more common to get butt sex in the Philippines or Thailand? [/QUOTE]

Edward M
05-18-11, 13:41
Fellows,

Read the forum but couldn't get a real sense of this. Is it easier / more common to get butt sex in the Philippines or Thailand? I only have a week in either country but in my limited experience neither place was offering as a rule (compared to say Brazil where even without asking 20-25% will offer). Thailand has the advantage though in that it has Devil's Den where if that is what you want it is guaranteed and demonstrated by their lineup who accepts.

Cbea20
05-19-11, 12:03
YMMV, but I don't ask for it, it's not very nice for the recipient, buggers up the sphincter muscle and they wind up having to wear a nappy like Elton John to stop them shitting down their legs. Never could understand why a hetero man would want to do this anyway, unless he's a closet fudgepacker.My impression is that guys seek anal sex when their member is too small to get good sensation inside a vagina."Like throwing a hot dog down a tunnel" is the term of art.

Anneelke
05-19-11, 12:22
If you are looking for similar, message me and I will give you her details so she can chat and webcam with you and sort things out.

Nothing like having a local to help so you get the inside knowledge and don't pay over the odds.

MadisonGuy
05-19-11, 16:17
My impression is that guys seek anal sex when their member is too small to get good sensation inside a vagina."Like throwing a hot dog down a tunnel" is the term of art.For me it's about doing something the girl doesn't want, like if the girl says sure lets do it well then I'm not all that interested. It also can mix things up a bit if you're screwing the same girl for a long time and get bored with it. That being said I have only did it once with a hooker because it's new and exciting anyways and the girl I did it with was a clock watcher and it was just horrible and I was doing anything I could to try to cum which I eventually gave up on and told her to be on her way. I don't think it makes a dude less hetero though, you could say the same thing about receiving a blow job.

Red Kilt
05-25-11, 03:10
Just remember:

No matter how hot & sexy a woman is, someone, somewhere is tired of f*king her!

FreebieFan
05-25-11, 04:16
Just remember:

No matter how hot & sexy a woman is, someone, somewhere is tired of f*king her! Damn. You take all the excitement out of it. LOL. Imagine how many we've also thrown back into that ever bigger pool. LOL

Streetlooker
05-26-11, 17:13
Just remember:

No matter how hot & sexy a woman is, someone, somewhere is tired of f*king her! I got one now I wish I could forget she's so damn cute thou

GregLondon
05-30-11, 06:13
Last time I renewed my visa 2 months ago they told me that the ACR card scheme may now be scrapped as a new minister had been appointed (and the scheme is a pointless waste of time and money). I need to renew my visa in a few days and my ACR card is now expired. Anyone know whether they are still required and how much a renewed ACR card will cost?

Thanks

Honeydog
05-30-11, 08:24
I'm all for fair treatment of men by the courts in these types of cases but old Strauss-Kahn seems to have a history of making maids suck his cork. It doesn't look too good for him. His employer, the IMF, also has a history of making poor countries suck cork and that will not endear him to any jury.He is just one of us!

Imagemakers
05-30-11, 15:00
Last time I renewed my visa 2 months ago they told me that the ACR card scheme may now be scrapped as a new minister had been appointed (and the scheme is a pointless waste of time and money). I need to renew my visa in a few days and my ACR card is now expired. Anyone know whether they are still required and how much a renewed ACR card will cost?

ThanksI renewed my ACR Card two months ago, the fee is $50 USD, adjusted to whatever the current exchange rate is. I was at Immigration again to renew my visa last week and they still had the ACR card fee posted on the window of the cashier's counter, so I'm assuming it is still required.

Sky Ryder
05-30-11, 15:04
My impression is that guys seek anal sex when their member is too small to get good sensation inside a vagina."Like throwing a hot dog down a tunnel" is the term of art.Always find it curious when someone like yourself and the Oz guy find it necessary to discredit someone or resort to "name calling" when they either don't enjoy or don't understand another person's pleasures.

I can assure you the the fact that someone enjoys a bit of anal play, up to and including penetration, neither makes them prone to be gay or of necessity in possession of a smaller than normal male member. Well, to be honest I can only truly speak for myself as I don't have experience watching other men perform.

Let's just say that I would be surprised if your hypothesis has any validity.

I can say that part of the "fun" of anal play is that it is something different than "average" and quite frankly has a entirely different sensation than vaginal sex. I have also found that gals willing to at least try it, as a rule are more open minded to exploring sexuality in other ways as well. Playing with toys, dressing up, etc. This is not a hard and fast rule, more of an observation.

While I certainly don't make anal sex a "deal breaker" there is something very appealing about finding a gal who bends over and carefully inserts me into her butt, whilst I reach around and use a "pocket rocket" to stimulate her "man in a boat". If you have ever felt a ladies anal orifice contract as she reaches orgasm, you can imagine what sensation that creates when your maleness is inserted into that contraction.

If you don't like it don't do it, and I would never force myself on a lady, but exercise caution when judging others by your narrow minded standards.

WestCoast1
05-30-11, 16:01
My impression is that guys seek anal sex when their member is too small to get good sensation inside a vagina."Like throwing a hot dog down a tunnel" is the term of art.Usually when someone complains about not getting enough, or of others getting something he's not getting, then the gent is secretly a closet-lover of it.

Chocha Monger
05-31-11, 00:19
Guys,

Part of Aussie Doug's statement might be personal opinion but his point about butt-fucking being hard on the recipient has merit. Frequent anal sex is associated with hemorrhoids, anal prolapse, leakage, ano-rectal pain, ulcers, fissures and anal cancer not to mention the high risk disease transmission to the person being fucked up the ass. A few years ago a member on the Thai forum posted about splitting a hooker's asshole and turning her rectum inside out like a bloodied sock upon withdrawing when her friend attacked him to put an end to the suffering.

WestCoast1
05-31-11, 06:36
Guys,

Part of Aussie Doug's statement might be personal opinion but his point about butt-fucking being hard on the recipient has merit. Frequent anal sex is associated with hemorrhoids, anal prolapse, leakage, ano-rectal pain, ulcers, fissures and anal cancer not to mention the high risk disease transmission to the person being fucked up the ass. A few years ago a member on the Thai forum posted about splitting a hooker's asshole and turning her rectum inside out like a bloodied sock upon withdrawing when her friend attacked him to put an end to the suffering. We have a romantic. You're killing me here. . .

Chocha Monger
05-31-11, 18:06
We have a romantic. You're killing me here. . .Would you like a stiff one up the ass? And if not, why is it fair game to send a rocket up someone else's ass? I suspect butt-fucking has a lot to do with some deep dark underlying sadistic urge on the part of the butt-fucker to inflict pain on the penetrated partner.

I neither condemn nor condone the practice. It is a matter of personal choice but the consequences are very real.

Soapy Smith
05-31-11, 18:51
I suspect butt-fucking has a lot to do with some deep dark underlying sadistic urge on the part of the butt-fucker to inflict pain on the penetrated partner.Besides, even if you give the penetrated partner 200 PhP for cab fare after the fact, she'll be riding in pain, hunched forward in a squat, since sitting on the seat would be too painful.

Soapy Smith
05-31-11, 18:54
'philippines warns tainted drink could shrink testes'

philippine daily inquirer, online version, may 31, 2011.

manila, philippines—the philippines and taiwan have warned some sport drinks may have been contaminated with a chemical that could cause infertility and block boys' sex organ development, officials said tuesday. the philippine food and drug administration is monitoring some imported taiwanese sport drinks, fruit juices and soft drinks that taipei said may contain excessive amounts of dehp, the agency's spokeswoman jesusa joyce cirunay said.

taiwan earlier this month issued a major recall of products, including more than 460, 000 bottles of sports drinks and fruit juice, over fears they contained the chemical widely used in manufacturing pvc products. taipei warned manila last week that dehp could have been illegally added to food products that were exported to the philippines, cirunay told agence france-presse.

'our government has asked taiwan for a list, and we are tracking these products, ' she added. cirunay did not name the brands on the list, saying no traces of dehp contamination have been found and there have been no reports of people falling ill in the philippines.

while low doses are generally safe, high doses or prolonged exposure to dehp could have harmful effects, such as retarding the development of boys' testes, she added. 'children are especially prone to harmful effects of high doses of dehp, or to repeated exposure which can lead to testicular effects, fertility problems, and toxicity to kidneys, ' the government regulator said in a health advisory.

hong kong tuesday banned two taiwanese drinks after tests showed they were tainted with excessive amounts of dehp. hong kong health officials said six samples from different batches of the speed sports drink and speed lemon flavor sports drink, both manufactured by a same company in taiwan, were found to be laced with dehp.

taiwanese authorities have arrested the owner of a company that used dehp rather than more expensive palm oil in products supplied to dozens of local drinks makers. he faces up to six months in jail.

Edward M
06-01-11, 03:19
Would you like a stiff one up the ass? And if not, why is it fair game to send a rocket up someone else's ass? I suspect butt-fucking has a lot to do with some deep dark underlying sadistic urge on the part of the butt-fucker to inflict pain on the penetrated partner.

I neither condemn nor condone the practice. It is a matter of personal choice but the consequences are very real. A little over dramatic there. I am not denying that sometimes problems can happen from anal but that can be said about almost anything. I have had American girls (not pros or even girls I was with) tell me that they loved receiving anal. And as for pros, don't get me started. Two girls from L'uomo in Rio come to mind. One anounced to me one day that on that day pussy was off limits and she would only be taking it up the ass. Another one told me how much she enjoyed getting BB anal from her gringo boyfriend that she was going to marry a few days later.

I am NOT saying that it is ok to bugger a girl without her permission but some girls genuinely do like it.

Chocha Monger
06-01-11, 03:49
'philippines warns tainted drink could shrink testes'

philippine daily inquirer, online version, may 31, 2011.

manila, philippines—the philippines and taiwan have warned some sport drinks may have been contaminated with a chemical that could cause infertility and block boys' sex organ development, officials said tuesday. the philippine food and drug administration is monitoring some imported taiwanese sport drinks, fruit juices and soft drinks that taipei said may contain excessive amounts of dehp, the agency's spokeswoman jesusa joyce cirunay said.

taiwan earlier this month issued a major recall of products, including more than 460, 000 bottles of sports drinks and fruit juice, over fears they contained the chemical widely used in manufacturing pvc products. taipei warned manila last week that dehp could have been illegally added to food products that were exported to the philippines, cirunay told agence france-presse.

'our government has asked taiwan for a list, and we are tracking these products, ' she added. cirunay did not name the brands on the list, saying no traces of dehp contamination have been found and there have been no reports of people falling ill in the philippines.

while low doses are generally safe, high doses or prolonged exposure to dehp could have harmful effects, such as retarding the development of boys' testes, she added. 'children are especially prone to harmful effects of high doses of dehp, or to repeated exposure which can lead to testicular effects, fertility problems, and toxicity to kidneys, ' the government regulator said in a health advisory.

hong kong tuesday banned two taiwanese drinks after tests showed they were tainted with excessive amounts of dehp. hong kong health officials said six samples from different batches of the speed sports drink and speed lemon flavor sports drink, both manufactured by a same company in taiwan, were found to be laced with dehp.

taiwanese authorities have arrested the owner of a company that used dehp rather than more expensive palm oil in products supplied to dozens of local drinks makers. he faces up to six months in jail. finally a remedy for old saggy balls! ;)

Chocha Monger
06-01-11, 04:20
Besides, even if you give the penetrated partner 200 PhP for cab fare after the fact, she'll be riding in pain, hunched forward in a squat, since sitting on the seat would be too painful.Or you could give her 50 pesos and let her ride a trike forcing her to sit on her battered brown eye. Of course, if you performed annilingus to bring her to a gentle climax before gingerly inserting your lumbricoid member into her rectal cavity that may be totally unnecessary.

Sky Ryder
06-01-11, 05:40
Or you could give her 50 pesos and let her ride a trike forcing her to sit on her battered brown eye. Of course, if you performed annilingus to bring her to a gentle climax before gingerly inserting your lumbricoid member into her rectal cavity that may be totally unnecessary.CM,

I am quite frankly confused by the "after posts" concerning this issue. It appears to me that many of the posters either have not participated in or are not proficient in the area of anal play. Once again, I can only speak from personal experience, but I have never had a lady depart after such a session in such discomfort that she was in pain from sitting. In every case except one, they were smiling at the memories of what had come before.

I am sure there was some mental conflict about what they expected to happen and the pleasure they actually experienced. I totally agree that the most important part is in the preparation and even afterwards some gentle massaging of the area seems to relax and restore. I am sure there are those that find a more forceful session to their liking, but I prefer the more gentle, longer foreplay that leads to wide-eyed pleasurable experience for both parties. I even have a few regulars that now demand that I attend to their ass on occasion, not every time, but when they want it, they want. Which is FINE with me.

This area of sexuality, IMHO is not conducive to "force your way in, pound away, wipe your dick on the curtains type". Of course I could be wrong

WestCoast1
06-01-11, 06:53
CM,

I am quite frankly confused by the "after posts" concerning this issue. It appears to me that many of the posters either have not participated in or are not proficient in the area of anal play. Once again, I can only speak from personal experience, but I have never had a lady depart after such a session in such discomfort that she was in pain from sitting. In every case except one, they were smiling at the memories of what had come before. Concur. Have never had a girl walk out the door limping or complaining. Half the gals pictured in the photo thread were rogered back door. In fact, for most of them:

Girl: you want tomorrow?

Me: salamat. No. You wore me out hun.

Girl: ok. You want other girl? I have cousin for you.

Several girls have grabbed the camera after the fact, and taken a pic of her own smiling face. One girl stood in front of a mirror just after being rear-ended and took a cell-phone pic of herself, naked, smiling into the mirror. I asked why she did that: "I send to my cousin. Tell her my boyfriend just f*ck me. Hahaha."

I'm not saying its as pleasant as vag, but its not the fretful thing that non-receivers imagine it as (assuming, of course, its known in advance whats coming). Its easy for someone who has not received it to imagine it as painful or nightmarish (and it can be). But there are plenty of pinay who are experienced at it, or are willing to try it for their bf.

Nvslim
06-01-11, 11:56
Back in the 80s, I was at Clark AB for a military golf tounament. We were booked into the Kanagroo Club (Clarkton) on Perimeter Road. After a practice round we retired to the hotel to shower and change. Met up with my team mates at Mirrors Bar next door. We planned to start and end the night early so we would be fresh the next day for golf. Mirrors was small back then with about 10-12 girls. A cute little Pinay caught my eye so I invited her for a drink. She was just over 18, 3 weeks working in the bar and pretty raw. She was about 5'0".95 pounds with a trim, tight, little body. 32 be cups and tight ass.

She told me she liked G. I. S because they were nice to her. She had only had about 5 guys before and admitted she did not know much about pleasing a man. I decided to take a chance and barfined her. We went to the hotel restaurant to eat before retiring for the night. Her English was not real good and I had to explain most of my jokes.

In the room, she was acting shy and came out of the shower with a towel wrapped tightly around her covering her whole body. I led her over to the bed unwrapped the towel and had her lie back. She looked good enough to eat which I did. She was a soft moaner and seemed to enjoy my efforts. No BJ, but I was hard already so I crawled on top and slowly worked my cock into the tightest pussy I ever had. After a few minutes of misssionary, I rolled over and let her ride me to a small "O". I rolled her on her stomach and moved into finish with a little doggey. Her little butt was up and slipped my cock back in.

She start yelling "tratuhin nang masama butas" over and over. Hot damn, I was doing good, she was really into it. I finished up and went the bathroom to clean up. The girl just laid there quietly and finally went in to clean up. We cuddles and went to sleep.

Next morning, She was very quiet and did not talk much. I bought her breakfast before I left to golf. I tipped her some pesos for jeepney fare. Met my mates and headed out to Clark AB for the match. A team from Japan was tearing up the course and we were not doing very good. A mate made a long, curving putt for a birdie. I remembered what the girl from the night before was yelling "tratuhin nang masama butas" so I yelled it out in excitement.

It got real quiet and everybody turned and looked at me. My Pinoy caddy leaned over to me and said "What do you mean it went in the wrong hole"

Slim

I posted this in the AC thread last year but seems to fit the current anal topic.

Chocha Monger
06-01-11, 23:26
What about Porn Stars? We have all seen the scene where the doe-eyed White Girl gets anally split into by some Horse Dick possessing Black Guy.

I wonder what precautions or medications are provided to Porn Star who have to repeatedly do anal scenes. The doe eyed white girls getting their assholes split by a horse cocked Mandingo like Lexington Steele in the porn videos do take medical precautions. They use a variety of desensitizing creams, like Anal Eze, to numb the anus. They also take quaaludes or other drugs to induce relaxation of the anal sphincter. For really long shoots some of the girls get a lubricant enema. It's totally different from an excited monger ramming it in the wrong hole when an unsuspecting Filipina is in a vulnerable doggie position. Unable to counter with an effective rearguard action she is pinned by the penile blitzkrieg and must suffer the anal intruder until he withdraws.

Econo Tech
06-02-11, 04:00
The doe eyed white girls getting their assholes split by a horse cocked Mandingo like Lexington Steele in the porn videos do take medical precautions. They use a variety of desensitizing creams, like Anal Eze, to numb the anus. They also take quaaludes or other drugs to induce relaxation of the anal sphincter. For really long shoots some of the girls get a lubricant enema. It's totally different from an excited monger ramming it in the wrong hole when an unsuspecting Filipina is in a vulnerable doggie position. Unable to counter with an effective rearguard action she is pinned by the penile blitzkrieg and must suffer the anal intruder until he withdraws.And many years ago, dunno either blacks on blondes, or dogfart.com. Where a white woman was getting reamed, and shit started to come out. And the punters just wiped it and continued as if nothing happened.

Anyway, CM: you seem very enlightened. Are you the guy who does the consulting for 'special jobs'?

Gangles
06-02-11, 13:44
I am not, currently, an anal sort of guy, although I have partaken in the past – with Australian women. But that was quite some time ago.

More recently, during my most recent trip to the Phils, I have been experimenting with the effects of anal play on the degree of pleasure that women get out of lovemaking.

I have found that almost all women like, or really love, a well lubed finger in their arse while we are banging away. And sometimes 2 fingers. They really like the feel that it has in making them tighter in the vagina, so they get more sensation from my cock. And because the wall between the rectum and vagina is very thin, it also increases the sensations that I get.

Once, I was finger fucking a chubby little thing and decided to try a finger in her arse. One became 2, jammed up past the knuckle, plus two in the see*nt, plus fingering her clit. She was off the planet, just could not get enough, until eventually she collapsed out of exhaustion.

On another occasion, I was in a very pleasurable 69 with a gf, but it was becoming a bit repetitious. So I reached over, grabbed a fairly big vibrator, lubed it up, and slowly put it to her arse, then slowly in, till it was almost to the hilt. It was a pretty big one. And she went off her face, truly ballistic. What a situation, she's coming and heaving all over the place, Her sucking was getting frenzied, and we ended up with my essential bodily fluids deep in her belly. Wow. She loved it. Slowly extracted the vibrator, and we just curled up, cuddled, and fell asleep.

Some time later, I tried this again with another woman while we were also in a 69. The vibrator was a different one, but just as big. The effect was the same.

These were regular women, not P4P, so they have some degree of representation of the whole female population.

So in my mind, a significant proportion of the female population tolerate, like, or really love anal activity. I now try it with every woman, and every time. Interesting and stimulating.

I realize that this is not the same as a woman who has had her arse reamed out, but they certainly seem to like it in one form or another.

Gangles

Red Kilt
06-03-11, 00:14
An older man, not in the best physical condition, (probably an ISG monger) asked the trainer in the gym,

"I want to impress a beautiful girl. Which machine should I use?"

The trainer replied,"Use the ATM."

FreebieFan
06-03-11, 01:58
I am not, currently, an anal sort of guy, although I have partaken in the past – with Australian women. But that was quite some time ago.

More recently, during my most recent trip to the Phils, I have been experimenting with the effects of anal play on the degree of pleasure that women get out of lovemaking.

I have found that almost all women like, or really love, a well lubed finger in their arse while we are banging away. And sometimes 2 fingers. They really like the feel that it has in making them tighter in the vagina, so they get more sensation from my cock. And because the wall between the rectum and vagina is very thin, it also increases the sensations that I get.

Once, I was finger fucking a chubby little thing and decided to try a finger in her arse. One became 2, jammed up past the knuckle, plus two in the see*nt, plus fingering her clit. She was off the planet, just could not get enough, until eventually she collapsed out of exhaustion.

On another occasion, I was in a very pleasurable 69 with a gf, but it was becoming a bit repetitious. So I reached over, grabbed a fairly big vibrator, lubed it up, and slowly put it to her arse, then slowly in, till it was almost to the hilt. It was a pretty big one. And she went off her face, truly ballistic. What a situation, she's coming and heaving all over the place, Her sucking was getting frenzied, and we ended up with my essential bodily fluids deep in her belly. Wow. She loved it. Slowly extracted the vibrator, and we just curled up, cuddled, and fell asleep.

Some time later, I tried this again with another woman while we were also in a 69. The vibrator was a different one, but just as big. The effect was the same.

These were regular women, not P4P, so they have some degree of representation of the whole female population.

So in my mind, a significant proportion of the female population tolerate, like, or really love anal activity. I now try it with every woman, and every time. Interesting and stimulating.

I realize that this is not the same as a woman who has had her arse reamed out, but they certainly seem to like it in one form or another.

GanglesCan identify with absolutely everything you say here. Your experiences have pretty much been mine. I say if its there, play with it. Theres a minority of girls that don't want you to go anywhere near the A spot, but they are a minority.

GregLondon
06-03-11, 04:28
I renewed my ACR Card two months ago, the fee is $50 USD, adjusted to whatever the current exchange rate is. I was at Immigration again to renew my visa last week and they still had the ACR card fee posted on the window of the cashier's counter, so I'm assuming it is still required.The situation is pretty confused. I went to get a visa renewal yesterday and noone mentioned ACR card at all which is just as well as I had left mine at the hotel and in any case it had expired.

Not sure why this was and given it costs 2200P I didn't want to stir things up by asking. One possibility is that because I had just passed 6 months in the Phils they assumed that I had an ACR card . Which I do. Its just expired though). As ever with Phils immigration the rules seem pretty random and are randomly applied. They did tell me I needed to complete an Exit Form 8 days before leaving the Phils. On a stand alone basis this would have cost 500P (and the time and inconvenience) But I was able to complete it then and there (at the trime of my visa renewal for no extra cost apart from the necessary 3 photos

Edward M
06-04-11, 01:43
I thought I might like to check out Lake Taal and its Volcano Island and the lake therein and the island on that lake to go to the world's largest island in a lake in an island in a lake in an island.

Would it be worth going there in July or should I wait for the dry season?

Red Kilt
06-04-11, 07:14
I thought I might like to check out Lake Taal and its Volcano Island and the lake therein and the island on that lake to go to the world's largest island in a lake in an island in a lake in an island.

Would it be worth going there in July or should I wait for the dry season? The volcano in Lake Taal is acting up at present (over 20 tremors in a 15 hours time slot during the week).

There has also been an enormous fish kill in the fish pens in Lake Taal too and parts of Batangas (believed caused by dramatic temperature changes or leaking material from underground). My friend who lives in Tagaytay said that there is the most godawful stench all over the province at present.

Probably not the best place to plan a visit right now or for the next 3 to 4 weeks.

Pompolino
06-04-11, 08:11
The volcano in Lake Taal is acting up at present (over 20 tremors in a 15 hours time slot during the week).

There has also been an enormous fish kill in the fish pens in Lake Taal too and parts of Batangas (believed caused by dramatic temperature changes or leaking material from underground). My friend who lives in Tagaytay said that there is the most godawful stench all over the province at present.

Probably not the best place to plan a visit right now or for the next 3 to 4 weeks. RK.

It's not just this past week. It's been active for some time now. An annual family reunion in Batangas of a GF was moved for the first time in 18 years and that was to commence May 20 because they were concerned of what was happening with the volcano.

P

Frenzy3
06-04-11, 08:39
I am not, currently, an anal sort of guy, although I have partaken in the past – with Australian women. But that was quite some time ago.

More recently, during my most recent trip to the Phils, I have been experimenting with the effects of anal play on the degree of pleasure that women get out of lovemaking.

I have found that almost all women like, or really love, a well lubed finger in their arse while we are banging away. And sometimes 2 fingers. They really like the feel that it has in making them tighter in the vagina, so they get more sensation from my cock. And because the wall between the rectum and vagina is very thin, it also increases the sensations that I get.

GanglesYes I too experience this with my gf 2, ant time I go near a pina ass I ask her if it is ok. And after doing pina anal I rather the pina pussy any day, unlike my italian gf,

Red Kilt
06-04-11, 09:49
RK.

It's not just this past week. It's been active for some time now. An annual family reunion in Batangas of a GF was moved for the first time in 18 years and that was to commence May 20 because they were concerned of what was happening with the volcano.

PI know but rather than give the statistics for the past 4 months I just stuck to the simple data for the past week.

Typical pinoy alarmist response too Pomp. They moved the party because they were probably worried that it was going to blow up and kill everyone for miles around (like Pinatubo a few decades back) when in fact it is just rumbling away many kms down and a very long way from doing anything nasty yet.

The major problem right now around there is the fish kill (bangus) and the stink from that as well as the fact that unscrupulous vendors are trying to flog off the dead fish through all sorts of market places. Not a sensible time to eat bangus anywhere around Luzon right now.

GoodEnough
06-04-11, 15:50
Reminds me of the people I've heard about here who stayed up all night during the last typhoon in Luzon, fearful that the tsunami would grab them here in Mindanao. I think the tidal crest wound up being something like 9 cms. So of course there was nothing to worry about. Yet the texting network in Davao was working overtime warning folks about the impending tidal wave.

RK, who the hell would eat bangus under any circumstances. Not even if it was fresh and free would I put it anywhere near my mouth.

GE.


I know but rather than give the statistics for the past 4 months I just stuck to the simple data for the past week.

Typical pinoy alarmist response too Pomp. They moved the party because they were probably worried that it was going to blow up and kill everyone for miles around (like Pinatubo a few decades back) when in fact it is just rumbling away many kms down and a very long way from doing anything nasty yet.

The major problem right now around there is the fish kill (bangus) and the stink from that as well as the fact that unscrupulous vendors are trying to flog off the dead fish through all sorts of market places. Not a sensible time to eat bangus anywhere around Luzon right now.

DriveAllNight
06-04-11, 18:42
RK, who the hell would eat bangus under any circumstances. Not even if it was fresh and free would I put it anywhere near my mouth.

GE. Really? Wow, I actually really like fresh-caught milkfish (especially the belly). Then again, I also like bagoong with green mango and balut pinoy.

Finrod
06-04-11, 19:01
Really? Wow, I actually really like fresh-caught milkfish (especially the belly). Then again, I also like bagoong with green mango and balut pinoy.I usually skip the seafood in the Phils on general principle. One just needs to look at the pollution of the water in and around the Phils. Maybe in the better restaurants I'll take on a deep sea fish entree. I've not had problems with land animals as long as they are thoroughly cooked but you won't find me near the street vendors.

WestCoast1
06-04-11, 20:18
RK, who the hell would eat bangus under any circumstances. Not even if it was fresh and free would I put it anywhere near my mouth.

GE. Yet, you DATY pinay?

Hahaha

GoodEnough
06-05-11, 01:44
Yet, you DATY pinay?

HahahaTouché. In my own defense however, I would point out that I don't do that with pinays picked up in an outdoor market who have been laying about in the hot sun.

Red Kilt
06-05-11, 06:21
Touché. In my own defense however, I would point out that I don't do that with pinays picked up in an outdoor market who have been laying about in the hot sun.A clever rejoinder GE.

My advice about bangus was not linked to my species preference but I must say I don't mind a home-cooked "boneless bangus" for breakfast because my chef does it just how I like it. However, I don't enjoy the regular bangus taste, just the boneless, smoked variety.

Today's press is full of stories about the selling of the fish-kill goods in various markets. Called "double-dead" bangus (a quaint expression that is used to describe animals that have died before being killed for consumption but are then sold as fresh meat / fish).

My advice still holds.

Don't eat bangus for a few more weeks because you don't know where it has been or come from.

Same for DATY pinay. You don't know where that has been either LOL (I will leave the "cum from" jokes to smarter script writers)

Uncle Goober
06-05-11, 07:17
I'm not saying its as pleasant as vag, but its not the fretful thing that non-receivers imagine it as (assuming, of course, its known in advance whats coming). Its easy for someone who has not received it to imagine it as painful or nightmarish (and it can be).Westie.

Are you bisexual? Have you ever had a cock up your arse? I'm curious about how you can express opinions about how much it hurts.

Not a flame. A serious question.

Cheers

KyCuriosity
06-07-11, 17:30
I plan on visiting manila, AC, and Cebu at the beginning of next year again. I talked to a guy about 1. 5 years ago in LA Cafe and he got lasik done for $1600 in Manila. I also am talking to a girl that had an ex-bf from the US, and said he got it done in Manila for $1100.

Have any of you guys ever researched it? Had it done? Or have any suggestions for it? I plan on mongering in manila and AC mostly. If you have done it in Manila, is it something that will allow me to monger that night?

Fast Eddie 48
06-07-11, 22:30
I plan on visiting manila, AC, and Cebu at the beginning of next year again. I talked to a guy about 1. 5 years ago in LA Cafe and he got lasik done for $1600 in Manila. I also am talking to a girl that had an ex-bf from the US, and said he got it done in Manila for $1100.

Have any of you guys ever researched it? Had it done? Or have any suggestions for it? I plan on mongering in manila and AC mostly. If you have done it in Manila, is it something that will allow me to monger that night?To Kycuriosity

Lasik is getting cheaper and cheaper every yr I got it done 2 yr ago in the US cost 1k USD is much cheaper now, my buddy got it done last yr in Bangkok for about 720 USD a large Lasik center own by European have new Machne,

I think it is alot less now in PI but I think you should do it in Thailand better doctor.

Fast Eddie 48

FreebieFan
06-08-11, 02:14
I plan on visiting manila, AC, and Cebu at the beginning of next year again. I talked to a guy about 1. 5 years ago in LA Cafe and he got lasik done for $1600 in Manila. I also am talking to a girl that had an ex-bf from the US, and said he got it done in Manila for $1100.

Have any of you guys ever researched it? Had it done? Or have any suggestions for it? I plan on mongering in manila and AC mostly. If you have done it in Manila, is it something that will allow me to monger that night?Very good Eye clinic in Rockwell. Phinma Tower 9h floor.

Very professional place. I can't tell you the price but I did enquire few years back and it seemed to be the best and most professional in Manila. Are you really interested in saving a few dollars or having professional treatment. Concerning my eyes, I know what I would want.

Mongrinastrlnd
06-08-11, 07:42
I had my Lasik done in Cebu a couple months ago by Dr. Larrazabal (probably the best-known opthalmologist in the Philippines, husband of the famous filipina singer Donna Cruz) at Cebu Doctor's where he is head of the Opthalmology department. Cost P50,000 all-inclusive. I wouldn't recommend being in a bar environment for an extensive period the same night, as its best to avoid cigarette smoke as much as possible immediately afterwards. (This being said I did briefly stop into Pussycats Cebu the same night to say hello to my favourite there)

In Manila I would consider St. Luke's, Makati Medical or American Eye.

KyCuriosity
06-08-11, 17:06
Thank you everyone.

I will try to look up those places online and see what I will come up with.

Red Kilt
06-09-11, 02:46
I had my Lasik done in Cebu a couple months ago by Dr. Larrazabal (probably the best-known opthalmologist in the Philippines, husband of the famous filipina singer Donna Cruz) at Cebu Doctor's where he is head of the Opthalmology department. Cost P50, 000 all-inclusive. I wouldn't recommend being in a bar environment for an extensive period the same night, as its best to avoid cigarette smoke as much as possible immediately afterwards. (This being said I did briefly stop into Pussycats Cebu the same night to say Hello, to my favourite there)

In Manila I would consider St. Luke's, Makati Medical or American Eye. I had mine done by American Eye Hospital in Shangri-la Mall in 1990.

Outstanding service and quality. I am an amazing success story for them as I still do not need reading glasses (they thought I would after 5 years). Cost was 40, 000 pesos for both eyes (11 years ago) so may be higher by now.

Jackyboy
06-13-11, 15:27
There is another sad story of a country with a totally unpredictable law-system. This one ended well. Many do not. Much worse happens on many levels. Everybody is at risk.

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/view-story.php?sid=411

Chocha Monger
06-13-11, 18:13
There is another sad story of a country with a totally unpredictable law-system. This one ended well. Many do not. Much worse happens on many levels. Everybody is at risk.

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/view-story.php?sid=411It's hard to be sympathetic towards a guy who flew around the world to fuck and impregnate some poor Filipino's wife. Given the amount of young attractive single women in the Philippines this was plain stupidity on that Brit's part.

Dexadrine
06-13-11, 18:46
I like the idea of getting a girl to do 2 or more guys at once. PM me if you're into this, or, does anyone know of swinger-type groups in the Manila area?

I'll be in the Phils for the next couple months so I hope to stumble on this sort of action.

Sammon
06-13-11, 22:41
It's hard to be sympathetic towards a guy who flew around the world to fuck and impregnate some poor Filipino's wife. Given the amount of young attractive single women in the Philippines this was plain stupidity on that Brit's part.Even the young attractive women you speak of may have been married before. Since there is no divorce it is hard to say who was married and who was not. Lots of Phi men just leave their wife and girlfriends once they get pregnant for some reason.

Anyway I admire the courage of this man fighting for his girl and child.

GoodEnough
06-13-11, 23:38
I do't find it hard at all to be sympathetic to this beleaguered couple. There's no functional justice system here, and there's no divorce, unless you're rich enough to afford an annulment. Chances are this lady's husband had gone off and fathered lots of other children with new girlfriends, and saw this as a chance for a financial bonanza. The church here realizes substantial profits from annulments, so naturally it's going to battle any attempt to allow marital freedom to those without money.

Frenzy3
06-14-11, 02:42
There is another sad story of a country with a totally unpredictable law-system. This one ended well. Many do not. Much worse happens on many levels. Everybody is at risk.

http://www.andrew-drummond.com/view-story.php?sid=411Hold on they knew the laws and they broke them. He also was dumb enough to fly here knowing he was in the wrong. Also is he supporting her other children is she still working. I am seeing a ignorant man here who does not care about local customs and laws.

Siam Dreamer
06-14-11, 03:10
It's hard to be sympathetic towards a guy who flew around the world to fuck and impregnate some poor Filipino's wife. Given the amount of young attractive single women in the Philippines this was plain stupidity on that Brit's part.Totally agree. This guy could have been killed. No regard for the fact she was already married with children. Also if in fact. She was working at hotel in Dubai, I doubt she was a saint herself. No sympathy for her, or the guy. He could have chosen much better for himself. He is lucky to even be alive. He literally put his life on the line. All for well used already married goods.

Go figure.

Econo Tech
06-14-11, 03:19
Even the young attractive women you speak of may have been married before.I strongly disagree with you.

I know enough women, who have NEVER BEEN Married. Though they forget to tell the part that they have kid / kids.

And also I do know of girls, who married, and then conveniently forgot about it, and when they hit Singapore, married again. Having forgotten the previous marriage. I know a dozen guys who went through hell to rid their wives' and avoiding getting them residency. When they realised the bitter truth.

http://pinoystaronline.com/main/?p=2775

Econo Tech
06-14-11, 03:38
Hold on they knew the laws and they broke them. He also was dumb enough to fly here knowing he was in the wrong. Also is he supporting her other children is she still working. I am seeing a ignorant man here who does not care about local customs and laws.I am with you on that.

He was not only dumb, but deserved to get himself into the trap.

I know enough and more Singaporeans' who have been screwed, but they keep it quite, lest they be the talk of the town. And so do a lot of Malaysians, who fall for the Filipina's sweet talks. .

Oh, filipinas have a name for girls who ditch their native husband / lover / bf. For a foreigner : Social Climber. And the church says Social Climber are bad. Or something to that effect.

Frenzy3
06-14-11, 06:06
I am with you on that.

He was not only dumb, but deserved to get himself into the trap.

I know enough and more Singaporeans' who have been screwed, but they keep it quite, lest they be the talk of the town. And so do a lot of Malaysians, who fall for the Filipina's sweet talks. .

Oh, filipinas have a name for girls who ditch their native husband / lover / bf. For a foreigner : Social Climber. And the church says Social Climber are bad. Or something to that effect. They also call girls like this gold diggers they marry then keep looking for the next big pay out, my gf won't even marry me as she sees marriage as a life contract, these are the worst insults you can call a pina, lower than **** (I think **** is a good thing here to some of the girl I see every day) or plastic which is close to this.

WestCoast1
06-14-11, 07:27
Does anyone have a phone number I can reach CP from within the USA?

Econo Tech
06-14-11, 07:31
Does anyone have a phone number I can reach CP from within the USA?Nope. Because they don't fly US. What's wrong with calling them on their Phil #?

Mongrinastrlnd
06-14-11, 09:17
Does anyone have a phone number I can reach CP from within the USA?The call centre numbers on.

http://www.cebupacificair.com/contact/index.html

Are blocked from the US? I successfully called once earlier this year from Japan (and didn't even have much of a hold queue).

WestCoast1
06-14-11, 10:57
The call centre numbers on.

http://www.cebupacificair.com/contact/index.html

Are blocked from the US? I successfully called once earlier this year from Japan (and didn't even have much of a hold queue). From the site:

63-32-230-8888.

63-2-70-20-888 (verizon voicemail: "Your call has been forwarded to an automatic voice system. 5-5-9. . . ").

Neither works from the States.

I was booking a ticket yesterday. Just when I entered my CC details and hit SUBMIT, the webpage went all white, and stayed that way. After 2 minutes, I clicked BACK; the thing stayed white. Opened up a new browser window, went on the site and checked the booking. A message pops up saying I booked twice, and to call their call center (no phone number given) to resolve the conflict.

Bad-boy article about CP not answering the phone.

http://www.pinoytux.com/rantings/cebu-pacific-airlines-is-evil

Fredje1961
06-14-11, 11:29
I was booking a ticket yesterday. Just when I entered my CC details and hit SUBMIT, the webpage went all white, and stayed that way.Sometimes when this happens, just by clicking the reload button or pressing F5, you may get the proper page getting displayed.

Sometimes, not always

Dezzy Haynes
06-14-11, 13:00
I was booking a ticket yesterday. Just when I entered my CC details and hit SUBMIT, the webpage went all white, and stayed that way. After 2 minutes, I clicked BACK; the thing stayed white. Opened up a new browser window, went on the site and checked the booking. A message pops up saying I booked twice, and to call their call center (no phone number given) to resolve the conflict.

http://www.pinoytux.com/rantings/cebu-pacific-airlines-is-evilAh. The white screen of death. I had a similar experience in Feb. I made the mistake of attempting to rebook several times after seeing this, and later found that $4800 was charged to my card. Eventually got the call center, who confirmed the charges but could not confirm a booking (?) Grand. Took 10 days to remove every charge from my VISA card.

It takes a lot of perseverance, but those numbers do work.

WestCoast1
06-14-11, 19:19
Ah. The white screen of death. I had a similar experience in Feb. I made the mistake of attempting to rebook several times after seeing this, and later found that $4800 was charged to my card. Eventually got the call center, who confirmed the charges but could not confirm a booking (?) Grand. Took 10 days to remove every charge from my VISA card.

It takes a lot of perseverance, but those numbers do work. I finally figured out how to make the second number work. Must put a + in front of the number using my cell phone. How to do that with a land-line? The answer this time was a pinay's recorded voice extolling the wonders of C-P. After 90 seconds of that (with no end in site, @$2. 99 / minute foreign call) I hung up. No sense dealing with it. I called my bank (CC) and the rep helped me put a dispute on it.

On the C-P site there is an online form you can fill out with a complaint, so I did. I got an email back (auto-response) saying I would hear back within 7 days. Yet, I got no email from them verifying the purchase of either the first ticket, or the second double-booked ticket. Sheesh, now THAT'S customer service! Why the@$% don't they have a toll-free number. . .

Sugoi
06-14-11, 20:33
Put a 011 first.

011-63-32-230-8888

Dezzy Haynes
06-14-11, 20:45
I finally figured out how to make the second number work. Must put a + in front of the number using my cell phone. How to do that with a land-line? The answer this time was a pinay's recorded voice extolling the wonders of C-P. After 90 seconds of that (with no end in site, @$2. 99 / minute foreign call) I hung up. No sense dealing with it. I called my bank (CC) and the rep helped me put a dispute on it.

On the C-P site there is an online form you can fill out with a complaint, so I did. I got an email back (auto-response) saying I would hear back within 7 days. Yet, I got no email from them verifying the purchase of either the first ticket, or the second double-booked ticket. Sheesh, now THAT'S customer service! Why the@$% don't they have a toll-free number. . . I don't know man. I called the mofos on Skype, popped it on speaker and just did housework and sh*t till they picked up. I was calm and cool on the phone, but I didn't get much out of them. My CC company eventually took care of everything.

An Aussie guy I work with has a Mastercard and had no trouble with CP. I've read that non-PI issued visa cards don't work well. I definitely agree though, the CS is sh*ite.

WestCoast1
06-14-11, 23:24
I don't know man. I called the mofos on Skype, popped it on speaker and just did housework and sh*t till they picked up. I was calm and cool on the phone, but I didn't get much out of them. My CC company eventually took care of everything.

An Aussie guy I work with has a Mastercard and had no trouble with CP. I've read that non-PI issued visa cards don't work well. I definitely agree though, the CS is sh*ite. Gents, thanks. Yes, the bank (CC) will deny the charge because of the dispute. Guess I'll go to the domestic office at the Manila airport and figure it out when I'm there. The question becomes, since I have no email confirmation of either booking, do I now be gutsy and make a third booking for the same flight. . . ?

GoodEnough
06-15-11, 13:48
Guys:

Today, the US Department of State updated its travel warning on the Philippines. There's nothing much new, except the tone is more strident and makes the country sound more threatening than the prior advisory. If this new advisory follows the same trajectory as prior warnings, other Western democracies will soon follow suit with dire warnings of their own. My best guess is that this will adversely affect the rivulet of foreign investment capital that trickles in here, and more importantly for this August group, will dampen the enthusiasm of less than intrepid tourists thinking of coming here. Thus, demand may be truncated, while the supply will remain constant, given the poor economy and lack of opportunity. Punter competition in our common marketplace may actually decrease somewhat due to a reduced influx of tourists.

GE

For those who may have missed it, I've reproduced the relevant portions:
"Philippines

June 14, 2011

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens of the risks of terrorist activity in the Philippines, particularly in the Sulu Archipelago and on the island of Mindanao. Terrorist attacks could be indiscriminate and could occur in other areas, to include Manila. Targeted sites may be public gathering places including, but not limited to, airports, shopping malls, conference centers, and other public venues. This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated November 2, 2010, and updates specific regions of concern and reflects continuing threats due to terrorist and insurgent activities.

Travelers should exercise extreme caution if traveling to Mindanao or the Sulu Archipelago. Regional terrorist groups have carried out bombings resulting in injuries and death. Sporadic clashes have occurred between lawless groups and the Philippine Armed Forces throughout Mindanao, particularly in rural areas. U.S. Government employees must seek special permission to travel to Mindanao or the Sulu Archipelago.

The Philippine government declared a state of emergency on November 24, 2009, for the Maguindanao and Sultan Kudarat provinces, as well as Cotabato City in Mindanao, as a result of election-related violence. Although the elections have passed, this state of emergency is still in effect. Travelers should be aware of heightened police activity and significant military presence in these areas. They should carefully research restrictions imposed on travel and follow the instructions of government officials.*

Kidnap-for-ransom gangs are active throughout the Philippines and have targeted foreigners. U.S. citizens traveling, living, and working throughout the Philippines are urged to exercise heightened caution in public gathering places.**U.S. citizens should exercise caution when traveling in the vicinity of demonstrations since they can turn confrontational and possibly escalate to violence."

Frenzy3
06-16-11, 06:55
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2011/06/16/officials-verifying-mania-terror-plot-161436

MANILA. Authorities are verifying an intelligence report seen by The Associated Press that a top Asian terrorist suspect and the notorious Abu Sayyaf extremist group have sent militants to bomb targets in the capital.

Military and police intelligence officials said Thursday that they are taking the report seriously, although it remains unsubstantiated and comes from only one source.

They said intelligence operatives have been deployed in metropolitan Manila to thwart any attack.

The USA State Department on Wednesday renewed its travel warning for the Philippines, saying terrorist attacks could occur in the restive southern Mindanao region and even in Manila. (AP)

Radical Guy
06-17-11, 20:15
A common theme on this board is how Filipinos are, in general, interested only in money and have no moral compass. I thought I'd pass along an experience from when I visited Davao last November.

I was in the street, which was crowded due to some parade or something going on. Lots of people were crowding and bumping into each other.

A young Filipino guy, maybe 18 or 19 years old, tapped me on the shoulder. At first, I assumed that he was just another beggar trying to hustle me. I snapped around ready to tell him to leave me alone, when I noticed that in his hand was my wallet. He said,"Sir, I think you dropped this," and handed me the wallet back.

I was amazed, because my wallet had about 20, 000 pesos in it (mostly 1, 000 peso notes). I tried to give him 1, 000 pesos as a reward, but he just smiled, said "no, it's okay" and then walked away.

People are people, some honest and some not. Nationality is irrelevant.

RG

Chocha Monger
06-18-11, 01:10
This is an old case. For me the blame goes towards the Filipina for being either ignorant or ignoring the laws of her land and the Brit for being destitute, arrogant and dragging himself and family into a extortion nightmare simply because he did not take due diligence when perusing third world flesh.I wonder how many guys get on sites like this and read about an oasis of never ending pussy in a far away exotic land then get on a plane only to arrive here and get themselves killed or mixed up in some serious shit.

As for the Brit, he was just another fool in paradise. Ignorance is not always bliss. He should have known who he was impregnating and the possible consequences. Laws aside, how could he possibly think a woman that shows such utter disregard for her husband and kids truly loves him? She definitely saw getting pregnant for him as a way to a better life, family be damned! I have seen Filipinas and Koreans leave their children behind to latch on like leeches to a man offering a better deal. They always seem to trade up again once they get to the new country. These types are cold calculating and constantly scheming. Weak dicks fall easily for their shows of affection, sweet lies and easy pussy.

Chocha Monger
06-18-11, 01:28
A common theme on this board is how Filipinos are, in general, interested only in money and have no moral compass. I thought I'd pass along an experience from when I visited Davao last November.

I was in the street, which was crowded due to some parade or something going on. Lots of people were crowding and bumping into each other.

A young Filipino guy, maybe 18 or 19 years old, tapped me on the shoulder. At first, I assumed that he was just another beggar trying to hustle me. I snapped around ready to tell him to leave me alone, when I noticed that in his hand was my wallet. He said,"Sir, I think you dropped this," and handed me the wallet back.

I was amazed, because my wallet had about 20, 000 pesos in it (mostly 1, 000 peso notes). I tried to give him 1, 000 pesos as a reward, but he just smiled, said "no, it's okay" and then walked away.

People are people, some honest and some not. Nationality is irrelevant.

RGHe must have been a saint! Most of the Filipinos that foreigners come into contact with are the lying cheating stealing murdering kind. One good man doesn't disprove the general trend. I have also met honest young hard working Filipinas who never asked me for a peso and who would be appalled at the thought of fucking for money or advantage. However, these are not the kind of girls sex tourists are interested in meeting. They want the mercenary ass peddlers. So, it's really a self fulfilling prophecy.

Slippery
06-18-11, 02:12
A common theme on this board is how Filipinos are, in general, interested only in money and have no moral compass. I thought I'd pass along an experience from when I visited Davao last November.

I was in the street, which was crowded due to some parade or something going on. Lots of people were crowding and bumping into each other.

A young Filipino guy, maybe 18 or 19 years old, tapped me on the shoulder. At first, I assumed that he was just another beggar trying to hustle me. I snapped around ready to tell him to leave me alone, when I noticed that in his hand was my wallet. He said,"Sir, I think you dropped this," and handed me the wallet back.

I was amazed, because my wallet had about 20, 000 pesos in it (mostly 1, 000 peso notes). I tried to give him 1, 000 pesos as a reward, but he just smiled, said "no, it's okay" and then walked away.

People are people, some honest and some not. Nationality is irrelevant.

RGWhy praytell would you be carrying a wallet in the Philippines? And why would you have 20, 000 php on you? Something stinks on this story. My wallet, passport, tickets, etc are always locked up safely and I take as much money as I need for where I am going or what I'm doing.

GoodEnough
06-18-11, 02:31
He must have been a saint! Most of the Filipinos that foreigners come into contact with are the lying cheating stealing murdering kind. One good man doesn't disprove the general trend. I have also met honest young hard working Filipinas who never asked me for a peso and who would be appalled at the thought of fucking for money or advantage. However, these are not the kind of girls sex tourists are interested in meeting. They want the mercenary ass peddlers. So, it's really a self fulfilling prophecy.I've lived here for almost eight years now, and my experiences have, for the most part been positive. I've had cell phones, wallets and money returned to me by strangers. I've been treated, for the most part, with kindness and gentility. I disagree emphatically with those who would contend that "most" Filipinos lack any sort of moral compass. I find that most are honest, gentle people, but then I interact largely with middle class, educated, smart Filipinos.

As I've stated many times in many contexts, this is a country in which almost half the population of 95 million people live on less than $2 a day. For the very poor, who struggle to subsist and raise families, why should it be surprising that many will seize any opportunity to acquire enough money to survive for another day or another week? For them, as it would be for many of us I suspect, cadging the extra dollar or two is a matter of survival and not "national character," or intrinsic dishonesty. This is a country whose population is poorly served by a rapacious, thoroughly corrupt government and whose people, for the most part, envisage little or no hope for a better future. The average Filipino, with little education, few marketable skills and no hope of improving his / her lot in life is more deserving, I think, of sympathy than contempt.

GE

Screaming Beaver
06-18-11, 02:58
Something stinks on this story. My wallet, passport, tickets, etc are always locked up safely and I take as much money as I need for where I am going or what I'm doing.You sound a bit paranoid to me. Are you the type who refuse to drink cocktails with ice in them because you are afraid of getting the squirts?

Chocha Monger
06-18-11, 03:26
You sound a bit paranoid to me. Are you the type who refuse to drink cocktails with ice in them because you are afraid of getting the squirts?I never understood how guys refuse drinks with ice but recklessly bareback random hookers.

Slippery
06-18-11, 08:26
You sound a bit paranoid to me. Are you the type who refuse to drink cocktails with ice in them because you are afraid of getting the squirts?No, I always bring my immodium with me. If you don't believe me, search my prior posts. It doesn't work with bullshit though.

Econo Tech
06-18-11, 16:08
I've lived here for almost eight years now, and my experiences have, for the most part been positive. I've had cell phones, wallets and money returned to me by strangers. I've been treated, for the most part, with kindness and gentility. I disagree emphatically with those who would contend that "most" Filipinos lack any sort of moral compass. I find that most are honest, gentle people, but then I interact largely with middle class, educated, smart Filipinos.I would say that most mongers see hookers and the low level people who are trying to take a shortcut to happiness. And an occasional scam here and there doesn't get marked as immoral.

Heck, even the church encourages asking from rich.

Step out of the hooker and such area, you will see the best of every country.

Once, when my flight from Batanes came late, my hotel pickup was missing, and everybody who got out of the 30 seater plane were harassing me to get dropped off in their vehicle. And none were heading to makati. I meant, they were genuinely interested to make the detour, including a couple, who's own pickup was there, and they were heading to Tarlac, but didn't mind dropping me in Makati.

Well, if I had been wallowing in mud. I don't expect angels. Do I?

Radical Guy
06-19-11, 03:18
Why praytell would you be carrying a wallet in the Philippines? And why would you have 20, 000 php on you? Something stinks on this story. My wallet, passport, tickets, etc are always locked up safely and I take as much money as I need for where I am going or what I'm doing.20, 000 php is less than $500, which is what I normally carry at home when I am NOT on vacation. I just don't like using credit cards overseas. For emergencies and reserve, I had $5000 in Amex travelers cheques in my room safe at the Marco Polo.

RG

Red Kilt
06-19-11, 06:24
I've lived here for almost eight years now, . . . . . . SNIP. . . . I've been treated, for the most part, with kindness and gentility. I disagree emphatically with those who would contend that "most" Filipinos lack any sort of moral compass. I find that most are honest, gentle people, but then I interact largely with middle class, educated, smart Filipinos. . . . . . . .

GEFourteen years for me, and I endorse everything GE said in his post, including the bit about "middle class, educated, smart Filipinos". There are many of them around, but "dyed-in-the-wool" 14-day mongers will be unlikely to meet many of them.

Econo Tech
06-19-11, 07:38
Fourteen years for me, and I endorse everything GE said in his post, including the bit about "middle class, educated, smart Filipinos". There are many of them around, but "dyed-in-the-wool" 14-day mongers will be unlikely to meet many of them.Change unlikely to "NEVER" meet any of them.

Gangles
06-21-11, 16:02
We frequently get assailed with posts from guys condemning others who do not use condoms. They predict wholesale STD infection, and near certain infusion with the deadly AIDS virus.

I am not a condom user. I think that I have actually worn a condom twice in my life.

I have had a vasectomy, so impregnation is not an issue.

After each foray into asia, where all of my associations are bareback, I get completely screened for every form of STD known to man. Maybe two or three forays per year. This last one involved 21 different women.

As with every other foray, this one returned a completely clear result. Nil infection of any STD.

Even my doctor is beginning to think that maybe we are being subjected to deliberate misinformation propaganda by our respective governments.

Chocha Monger
06-21-11, 16:23
We frequently get assailed with posts from guys condemning others who do not use condoms. They predict wholesale STD infection, and near certain infusion with the deadly AIDS virus.

I am not a condom user. I think that I have actually worn a condom twice in my life.

I have had a vasectomy, so impregnation is not an issue.

After each foray into asia, where all of my associations are bareback, I get completely screened for every form of STD known to man. Maybe two or three forays per year. This last one involved 21 different women.

As with every other foray, this one returned a completely clear result. Nil infection of any STD.

Even my doctor is beginning to think that maybe we are being subjected to deliberate misinformation propaganda by our respective governments. Gangles,

Can you give us some information on the women you bareback? Are they bar girls, freelancer part-timers or non-pros? I find your ability to bareback so extensively and come away clean quite surprising based on reports of others catching STDs on their first trip. Do you take antibiotics during your adventures?

Sammon
06-21-11, 16:49
We frequently get assailed with posts from guys condemning others who do not use condoms. They predict wholesale STD infection, and near certain infusion with the deadly AIDS virus.

I am not a condom user. I think that I have actually worn a condom twice in my life.

I have had a vasectomy, so impregnation is not an issue.

After each foray into asia, where all of my associations are bareback, I get completely screened for every form of STD known to man. Maybe two or three forays per year. This last one involved 21 different women.

As with every other foray, this one returned a completely clear result. Nil infection of any STD.

Even my doctor is beginning to think that maybe we are being subjected to deliberate misinformation propaganda by our respective governments. I doubt your report that you never contracted any STD during your extensive bareback experience.

Most commonly people get are Chlamydia and Siphylis. Gonorrea is sympamatic in girls that there will be nasty smell. Chlamydia can be nasty smell and discharge or asymptomatic.

Hiv is possible but since you had tests done can believe you did not catch. Catching HIV is very rare unless you do risky behaviour as outlined in HIV prevention website.

Ofcourse there are many who do not use condoms regularly including myself. Most of the time they are with non-pros but few instances with working girls also.

Alcohol intake, passion of the moment etc plays a part.

Ofcourse if you take a course of strong antibiotics during and after mongering your tests will be negative. In case of siphylis even if you take antibiotics it will still show weak antibodies after three months.

There are other things you can catch which includes warts, hepatitis B and C etc.

In Thailand and Phi in perticular barebacking is very common and so is catching something.

Questions are,

1. Do you exclusively bareback only non-pros? (Not that it is safe, who knows what she did?)

2. Did you get the girl tested before you had sex every time?

3. Did you take strong antibiotics during or after your trip and waited atleast a month-three months before getting tested.

4. Did you take any antibiotics when you noticed something wrong without going to the doctor and getting tested?

Most people get tested once a year if at all. I do not thing anybody gets tested after one mongering visit. Maybe some who are married will do but they may use condoms just to be safe.

We mongers are in a risky business of catching STD. It does not have to be sex, can be DATY, DFK, BBBJ etc. Ever wonder why you get sore throat after mongering visit? Most often we attribut it to.

Change of weather, dirty third world conditions, getting drunk etc. It is very much possible that you caught some STD from a girl carrier even though you used condom.

You should be extremely lucky not to catch any STD if you are a frequent monger soliciting workin girls.

Brymor
06-21-11, 17:57
Sammon.

I think your questions are more or less subtly answered in Gangles' original post, however I am surprised at the questions themselves. Self diagnosis or self prescribing of antibiotics is fraught with potential problems and is one of the main reasons why there are now so many resistant strains of bacteria around. The other thing to note is that specific antibiotics will only treat specific types of sexually transmitted infections, so taking one type of medication before and during a visit will not in itself prevent a sexual infection and it may actually mask some of the symptoms of the infection without curing it. Some infections also display similar symptoms, so you will never be completely sure what infection you have unless you are properly examined and screened. Your post and questions seemed to imply that you find that behaviour normal, if I am wrong I apologise.

I have a feeling that Gangles' post will generate many responses and I am neither advocating barebacking nor am I against it. I would just urge caution to those guys that may be tempted to take antibiotics as a precautionary measure to prevent infections, it is not IMHO a sensible solution.

I also don't agree about the point you made that most people don't get tested after one mongering visit. I always get tested after each visit, I have regular gf's that I bareback but I am not stupid and I know that if they do it with me then they will doubtless do it with others. I try not to bareback pro's but my resolve has not always been as strong as it should have been, but I too have been lucky, never having caught anything from my trips to the Philippines.

I have a feeling this will turn out to be another one of those endless (and maybe heated) discussions that will dominate the thread over the next few days, with no clear resolution for anyone!

Iron Duke
06-21-11, 19:16
We frequently get assailed with posts from guys condemning others who do not use condoms. They predict wholesale STD infection, and near certain infusion with the deadly AIDS virus.

I am not a condom user. I think that I have actually worn a condom twice in my life.

As with every other foray, this one returned a completely clear result. Nil infection of any STD. You've been very lucky.

Every time you bet on red or black, you have a 50% chance of being right. Sooner or later you'll get the wrong result.

Screaming Beaver
06-21-11, 20:02
You've been very lucky.

Every time you bet on red or black, you have a 50% chance of being right. Sooner or later you'll get the wrong result. I also find that [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112) shortly after popping your cork is beneficial in preventing std's. I know it's a pain in the ass to get up to take a whizz shortly after the deed but it seems to have worked for me over the years. While you are at it it's also a good idea to wash off your crank in the shower.

Python75
06-21-11, 23:47
Change unlikely to "NEVER" meet any of them.No. Keep it at "unlikely". I am a 14 to 21 day monger and have met dentists, business owners, policewomen, and teachers.

WestCoast1
06-22-11, 00:20
We frequently get assailed with posts from guys condemning others who do not use condoms. They predict wholesale STD infection, and near certain infusion with the deadly AIDS virus.

I am not a condom user. I think that I have actually worn a condom twice in my life.

Even my doctor is beginning to think that maybe we are being subjected to deliberate misinformation propaganda by our respective governments. Same same. Less than a handful of times for me to put on a raincoat. Hundreds of indonesians. Hundreds of pinay. And a like number combined canadians, bushy blond americanos, latinas, and caribbean island girls. Still. . . Waiting. . .


You've been very lucky.

Every time you bet on red or black, you have a 50% chance of being right. Sooner or later you'll get the wrong result. Statistically correct, and incorrect at the same time. The red / black scenario is not the same as with girls. With the red / black scenario, the probability is 50% each roll of the dice. But with girls, far less than half have a disease, so its not a 50/50 situation. Still, eventually its bound to catch you, right?


I doubt your report that you never contracted any STD during your extensive bareback experience.

You should be extremely lucky not to catch any STD if you are a frequent monger soliciting workin girls. Why? That only exists in your mind. I'm reporting the same thing. Also I know others like me. If you are saying that the odds of Gangles being correct is small, then the odds that two of us reporting the same thing is extremely small. And I know others in the same situation. This makes your theory of having lots of girls and getting no STD incorrect.


I never understood how guys refuse drinks with ice but recklessly bareback random hookers.The odds may not be what you think. I don't like ice in my drink. Hahaha.

Col Law
06-22-11, 01:02
Same same. Less than a handful of times for me to put on a raincoat. Hundreds of indonesians. Hundreds of pinay. And a like number combined canadians, bushy blond americanos, latinas, and caribbean island girls. Still. . . Waiting. . .

Statistically correct, and incorrect at the same time. The red / black scenario is not the same as with girls. With the red / black scenario, the probability is 50% each roll of the dice. But with girls, far less than half have a disease, so its not a 50/50 situation. Still, eventually its bound to catch you, right?

Why? That only exists in your mind. I'm reporting the same thing. Also I know others like me. If you are saying that the odds of Gangles being correct is small, then the odds that two of us reporting the same thing is extremely small. And I know others in the same situation. This makes your theory of having lots of girls and getting no STD incorrect.

The odds may not be what you think. I don't like ice in my drink. Hahaha. You maybe correct or you may be wrong I can only relate my own life tales

NSU 3 tImes.

Gonorrhea 2 times

Some times combined

The doctor did not warn me not to drink alcohol, so when it cleared up after 6 days I went to the pub, it came back, doctors response you silly man, this was as he was warming the the serum up under a tap, so that it flowed better ,then went and injected both cheeks of my bum did it hurt YES, lesson forgotten No.

No story Just true I am 59 now that was when I was 22 or around that age.

Nvslim
06-22-11, 09:44
You maybe correct or you may be wrong I can only relate my own life tales

NSU 3 tImes.

Gonorrhea 2 times

Some times combinedWhen I was visiting the PI in mid-19080 from Okinawa, I picked up NSU twice in about 12 trips over 18 months and nothing else. Never used a condom although the US military encouraged it. I was told you could pick up NSU from other than sexual sources. I did the same bad things, swam in less than clean hotel pools and ate in the roadside BBQ stands but the women were all different. Never really thought about the consequences until the med techs started reaming my dick with a pipe cleaner but next trip, back to bare backing.

Young, foolish and before Aids / HIV. :)

Slim

White Whale
06-22-11, 20:32
Is there limitation for largest note value for street exchange offices in your experience? I have some 100€ notes I rarely see my personal life. I am planning to take some with me. Only some. How I got those is irrelelevant to my question. I am leaving to Phils next week and I would not like to bother to go to bank here exchangining into 50€. In my home country most of the shops have ultra violet light sensing devices for checking notes up from 50€.

Ekspat
06-23-11, 03:34
Is there limitation for largest note value for street exchange offices in your experience? I have some 100€ notes....Speaking for AC, I've never had a problem with 100 Euro notes at the money changer. I guess in Manila it isn't a problem either.

Greetings from AC! Cheers!

Gangles
06-23-11, 10:30
To add a bit more information.

Of the 21 women that I had sex with. 6 were bargirls, so they have regular checkups; 3 are freelancers, one bieng very infrequent, one frequently in the business, and one in between.

The remailing 12 women are regular pinays. The great majority have had only one or two sexual partners before me.

One was with me for 17 days, one for 47 days. Almost all of these came through CB and DIA.

These numbers don't add up exactly, means my records are not perfect.

It is worth noting that those who are talking about red / black are seriously distorting statistical probabilities.

They are implying that the risk of contracting and STD is 50.

The point of my post is that the real likelihood, or risk, of contracting an STD is small. We are told through government propaganda incessantly that to bareback will surely result in an STD.

I am pointing out that this is just not true.

The story with government propaganda about HIV / AIDS is similarly distorted.

The Australian government publishes figures for HIV / AIDS annually. The number is about 1100 per year.

This is then promulgated to the average punter that they have to glove up when they are scruffing their regular gf, or they will get AIDS.

But the govt does not give a breakdown of that number. So that it is not possible to get a realistic understanding of the real risk. The actual numbers are available, but hard to find. When the number of cases contracted by homosexual sex, and intravenous drug use are deducted, the number of cases contracted through heterosexual sex in Australis, is about 5 per year.

That is. 5 cases among 10 million people of sexually active age. This means that the likelihood of contracting AIDS through heterosexual sex is miniscule. Forget it.

My doctor is slowly getting his head around the stastical concepts of likelihood and risk. Once you have a basic understanding, and hence the real numbers to look for, then you can get a realistic understanding of the likely outcomes of your behaviours.

Similarly, the government of the Philippines publishes figures for HIV / AIDS cases in the Phils. But keep in mind that there are vast numbers of baclas, who practice homosexual sex. And I have no feel for the number of intravenous drug users. So it is impossible to form any understanding of the likelihood of contracting HIV / AIDS through bareback sex in the Phils.

So think before you mindlessly propagate government propaganda.

G

Red Kilt
06-23-11, 13:29
. . . . . . . . . SNIP.

So think before you mindlessly propagate government propaganda.

GGangles mate I am not sure why you feel the need to be a cheerleader for the non-condom user brigade.
Your earlier post was definitely along that vein. I agree that HIV/AIDS data anywhere may not be too accurate so that is fair enough in your latest post.

Why not just leave it up to each of us to do whatever we want to minimize risk? You and I have eliminated one of the major risks resulting from not using a condom; that of impregnating a partner, because we have been vasectomized.

In my case, I want zero risk when it comes to my health and well-being. I don't really care about statistics, likelihoods and risks when it comes to personal health. I have already had 1 STD 13 years ago. I never want it again. Even if 1 in 100 girls can infect me, I still don't want to roll that dice.

I appreciate your wisdom in most matters but I just can't follow why you are crusading against using condoms, especially for those guys who are NOT vasectomized like you and me, because that's the way a lot of guys here will interpret your strongly worded advice..

Devils 1
06-26-11, 06:13
I need some advice from some of the long term PI residents. It seems the last few times I have visited Manila I have come down with a terrible case of diarrhea. It has been so bad and so painful that I cannot leave the bed or bathroom for 4-5 days at a time. Loss of appetite, uncontrollable pain and cramps, no energy. I spend all of my time either on the pot or sleeping. The pain and cramps are so bad that some times I feel I could pass out from it. I am taking Cipro which seems to do OK but I am wondering if anyone has a more sure fire and faster cure for this problem?

I have pretty much decided that the cause is "filtered water" in restaurants. So I am going to stick entirely to bottled water in hopes that I can eliminate the problem. But with hopes of living here full time, it makes it pretty hard to imagine being sick like this on a regular basis.

GoodEnough
06-26-11, 08:37
i need some advice from some of the long term pi residents. it seems the last few times i have visited manila i have come down with a terrible case of diarrhea. it has been so bad and so painful that i cannot leave the bed or bathroom for 4-5 days at a time. loss of appetite, uncontrollable pain and cramps, no energy. i spend all of my time either on the pot or sleeping. the pain and cramps are so bad that some times i feel i could pass out from it. i am taking cipro which seems to do ok but i am wondering if anyone has a more sure fire and faster cure for this problem?

i have pretty much decided that the cause is "filtered water" in restaurants. so i am going to stick entirely to bottled water in hopes that i can eliminate the problem. but with hopes of living here full time, it makes it pretty hard to imagine being sick like this on a regular basis. in the 8 years i've lived here, i think i've had it twice and both times took 500 mg. cipro pills twice a day for five days. i felt better within hours after having taken the first pill. i never drink any water-filtered or not-that doesn't come from a bottle, but i think i've probably developed some fairly strong antibodies since i've started living here. when i lived in africa, where dysentery was a constant threat and more of a problem for me than it is here, i avoided all uncooked vegetables unless prepared at home; ditto for fruits that hadn't been peeled.

ge

Red Kilt
06-26-11, 09:05
........<SNIP> . . . . So I am going to stick entirely to bottled water in hopes that I can eliminate the problem. But with hopes of living here full time, it makes it pretty hard to imagine being sick like this on a regular basis.I doubt it is the water. Does it only happen in Manila? Have you been outside Manila?

I have lived here for 14 years and never had any problems whatsoever. The filtered water served in restaurants comes from the same sources as all the bottled water that you think will solve your problems. No water supplier in their right mind would flog contaminated water to restaurants.

Remember that very few pinoys use toilet paper and prefer the old "hand and pail" trick so rest room door latches, taxi door handles, stair rails, paper money etc all carry a heap of potential sources of contamination.

I think your immune system must be weak, so you need to build it up by getting as many antibodies into your system as you can to try to build up your health levels, other wise your plans to live here will be thwarted (unless you can isolate the cause).

Macho Dik
06-26-11, 09:49
I doubt it is the water. Does it only happen in Manila? Have you been outside Manila?

I have lived here for 14 years and never had any problems whatsoever. The filtered water served in restaurants comes from the same sources as all the bottled water that you think will solve your problems. No water supplier in their right mind would flog contaminated water to restaurants.

Remember that very few pinoys use toilet paper and prefer the old "hand and pail" trick so rest room door latches, taxi door handles, stair rails, paper money etc all carry a heap of potential sources of contamination.

I think your immune system must be weak, so you need to build it up by getting as many antibodies into your system as you can to try to build up your health levels, other wise your plans to live here will be thwarted (unless you can isolate the cause). I think those mentoned may be one of the cause. But I was wondering if anyone got the parasites from just rimming some gal's assh*les? Rememebr there is some over of certain parasite that may be stick to the gal's ass and by chance get into your mouth when you ever try rimming her.

WouldTryIt
06-26-11, 10:42
I need some advice from some of the long term PI residents. It seems the last few times I have visited Manila I have come down with a terrible case of diarrhea. It has been so bad and so painful that I cannot leave the bed or bathroom for 4-5 days at a time. Loss of appetite, uncontrollable pain and cramps, no energy. I spend all of my time either on the pot or sleeping. The pain and cramps are so bad that some times I feel I could pass out from it. I am taking Cipro which seems to do OK but I am wondering if anyone has a more sure fire and faster cure for this problem?

I have pretty much decided that the cause is "filtered water" in restaurants. So I am going to stick entirely to bottled water in hopes that I can eliminate the problem. But with hopes of living here full time, it makes it pretty hard to imagine being sick like this on a regular basis. I would advise you to have a check for an infection by amoeba. Google for it. The analysis should, however, be done by a lab that has experience with tropical diseases. A negative result could otherwise be obtained. Talk with your GP.

I have had it twice but where I caught it is not clear (Thailand, Phils) and the symptons were mild. I only got the idea it could be amoeba because of an article in New Scientist that stated that 50% of the people in tropical countries have parasites (either worms or amoeba). Usually doctors in the West have little experience with tropical diseases. I must have had it for 2-3 years without anyone making the right diagnosis.

FreebieFan
06-26-11, 13:01
in the 8 years i've lived here, i think i've had it twice and both times took 500 mg. cipro pills twice a day for five days. i felt better within hours after having taken the first pill. i never drink any water-filtered or not-that doesn't come from a bottle, but i think i've probably developed some fairly strong antibodies since i've started living here. when i lived in africa, where dysentery was a constant threat and more of a problem for me than it is here, i avoided all uncooked vegetables unless prepared at home; ditto for fruits that hadn't been peeled.

geimmodium also works well. in fact all the filipinas i know are very familiar with immodium. i will tell you that when i lived ther i had cause / reason to have a study done on the ice that was being delivered to restaurants. the ice blocks that you see falling around the back of a dirty truck floor. all i can say after seeing the study is that i wouldn't take ice in my drinks ever again, unless i knew its source. and don't beleive that hotel ice is as pure as your gf's puss. many hotesl do not have enough supoly so they buy ice from the same ice block vendor in pretty cube shapes. don't trust ice!

Soapy Smith
06-27-11, 06:39
Immodium also works well. In fact all the Filipinas I know are very familiar with Immodium. I will tell you that when I lived ther I had cause / reason to have a study done on the ice that was being delivered to restaurants. The ice blocks that you see falling around the back of a dirty truck floor. All I can say after seeing the study is that I wouldn't take ice in my drinks EVER again, unless I knew its source. And don't beleive that hotel ice is as pure as your gf's puss. Many hotesl do not have enough supoly so they buy ice from the same ice block vendor in pretty cube shapes. Don't trust ice!My votes for the culprit go first to ice and uncooked vegetables. I can't prove it's true, but a seasoned freelancer at the old LA Cafe (Now MBC) insisted she'd gotten sick from a mixed drink at LAC and believed they were using unfiltered water for the ice. I always ask about the ice, and if the place seems a little dodgy, like MBC, I take only bottled beverages or ask for no ice.

I have often gotten diarrhea during my Phils visits, and finally concluded maybe it was from "fresh" salads in which lettuce and other ingredients had been washed in tap water. I think it's unlikely that most restaurants use filtered water to rinse vegetables. I just left the Phils and, against my better judgment, had a garden salad in an Aussie-owned place the night before I left. It now appears it was a big mistake. I had managed to avoid any such ailment for nearly three weeks. It's tempting to see if my body can fight it down-and maybe thereby build up some immunity, but I do need to be able to function on a daily basis so will probably end up getting some cipro or something similar.

Frenzy3
06-27-11, 08:21
Another trap is chow king, every time I get hit with food poison it is after I have eaten at chow king. I have no idea why I keep eating there.

WouldTryIt
06-27-11, 09:31
My votes for the culprit go first to ice and uncooked vegetables. I can't prove it's true, but a seasoned freelancer at the old LA Cafe (Now MBC) insisted she'd gotten sick from a mixed drink at LAC and believed they were using unfiltered water for the ice. I always ask about the ice, and if the place seems a little dodgy, like MBC, I take only bottled beverages or ask for no ice.

I have often gotten diarrhea during my Phils visits, and finally concluded maybe it was from "fresh" salads in which lettuce and other ingredients had been washed in tap water. I think it's unlikely that most restaurants use filtered water to rinse vegetables. I just left the Phils and, against my better judgment, had a garden salad in an Aussie-owned place the night before I left. It now appears it was a big mistake. I had managed to avoid any such ailment for nearly three weeks. It's tempting to see if my body can fight it down-and maybe thereby build up some immunity, but I do need to be able to function on a daily basis so will probably end up getting some cipro or something similar. These are certainly the main causes of catching "it". Even if the ice is made from sterilized water it all depends what happens afterwards. On a holiday in the Caribbean my two friends came back to the hotel early morning. The ice, made no doubt from good water and packed in cartons, had been deposited outside the hotel, they told me later. Dogs walking passed pissed on the boxes! And if the ice is put in the glass by hands not washed? And once in Manila I walked around and had to have a leak. There was a nice hotel and I walked in. I couldn't find the washroom so I asked an employee. I followed the instructions and when I walked into the washroom I was stunned. Smell, dirty, no soap, etc. It was awful. When I walked out I looked back and saw that is was the washroom for employees! So much for that. Once on Boracay (1991) I had ordered a bottle of water with dinner. The waitress came back and opened the bottle. When I drank the water I smelled the chlorine. Tapwater. But how was that possible? She had opened the bottle by pulling the strip at the table. I looked and saw that the plastic was cut with a knife, obviously for another customer. Then everything was put together again after filling the bottle with tapwater. At the table she pulled the strip (and left it there and I could inspect it) : a smooth cut on one side; the other side was rough as it is when you pull it open and not cut it. You simply cannot trust anything. It's hard to stay clear of it but if symptons develop you should ALWAYS go and see a doctor. No self-medication.

An addition to my previous posting: 400 million (!) people in the tropics are estimated by the WHO to have an amoeba infection.

It is the second most deadly infection after malaria. Just remember.

And talking about "rimming". Those guys must be absolutely mad. If that isn't asking for trouble then I don't know what is.

HarryDubois
06-27-11, 11:24
May I ask a general question, and I hope this is not silly.

I am 50, 6'1, athletic. 200 pounds, white, not bald, greying hair, American.

If I were to visit Angeles City this summer, what type of reaction could I expect from the bargirls there? I would like to spend my time with pretty girls aged 18 to 22 who will truly shower me with love and affection. GFE in short.

Of course I am happy to pay the standard fee which I understand is between $25 and $75 US dollars per night.

What can I actually expect? Also is August, being a raining month with fewer tourists, a preferable time to visit?

I have this image of sexually insatiable, nubile Angeles bar girls, however I wonder if this is a myth or not.

Brymor
06-27-11, 11:46
May I ask a general question, and I hope this is not silly.

I am 50, 6'1, athletic. 200 pounds, white, not bald, greying hair, American.

If I were to visit Angeles City this summer, what type of reaction could I expect from the bargirls there? I would like to spend my time with pretty girls aged 18 to 22 who will truly shower me with love and affection. GFE in short.

Of course I am happy to pay the standard fee which I understand is between $25 and $75 US dollars per night.

What can I actually expect? Also is August, being a raining month with fewer tourists, a preferable time to visit?

I have this image of sexually insatiable, nubile Angeles bar girls, however I wonder if this is a myth or not. HD you may have got a better response posting this in the AC thread. My first visit to AC will take place next month although I have been a frequent visitor to the country over the last few years. I am looking forward to posting about my AC experiences later next month. However my guess is that the bar girls are like the bar girls anywhere else in the country and that their primary concern will always be the size of your wallet and your generosity. All other factors are secondary.

As for the GFE then that is more difficult, since you need to rely on intuition and the girl's attitude before you bar fine her. My advice is to be very very clear about what you expect from the girl, BEFORE you bar fine her and even then that is no guarantee that you will get the performance you desire. I will be intrigued to see what some of the AC veterans think?

IMHO I don't think your physical attributes play a significant role in any encounter you have with professional girls although it is always good for one's ego to be told how handsome you are.

To be honest from my own personal experience, being presentable and clean are far more important to a bar girl together with a good attitude, than your looks. Your capacity to pay is by far the most important issue to them, above anything else.

Ekspat
06-27-11, 11:48
I am 50, 6'1, athletic. 200 pounds, white, not bald, greying hair, American.Me 49, 6'2, 170 pounds, same white. So similar basics.


If I were to visit Angeles City this summer, what type of reaction could I expect from the bargirls there?Should be no problem at all. I'm now in AC and have a cracker of a time. It's low season, the girls are very willing to go BF, keen to do a good job to secure some tip, so far after 5 nights I haven't had a runner and have got great GFE.


Also is August, being a raining month with fewer tourists, a preferable time to visit?My personal opinion, I love the low season, even 11pm you can find a stunner, this is unlikely in December. Unfortunately you have to carry an umbrella all the time.


I have this image of sexually insatiable, nubile Angeles bar girls, however I wonder if this is a myth or not.Depends on your approach I guess. Treat the girls as you'd like to be treated, choose a girl if you click with her, get her some food, joking around, make her laugh and feeling comfortable and you'll get the reward in the bedroom. For sure. At least that's my experience.

Have fun!

Ekspat
06-27-11, 12:05
What can I actually expect?And don't forget, the hotel you stay in expects you to bring at least one girl back every night. Better two.

If you get home alone, it's a walk of shame through the lobby and staff will start joking about you.

Cheers!

HarryDubois
06-27-11, 12:40
And don't forget, the hotel you stay in expects you to bring at least one girl back every night. Better two.

If you get home alone, it's a walk of shame through the lobby and staff will start joking about you.

Cheers! Are you kidding, or is that serious?

By the way, any advice about a nice, affordable hotel close to the nice bars?

Ekspat
06-27-11, 15:09
Are you kidding, or is that serious?Don't worry, sort of kidding. Of course you can get back to your hotel alone.

But no hotel staff would blink an eye if you come back with three girls.

Got it?

Chocha Monger
06-28-11, 12:34
Throwing the Swedes running the cam sites in jail and raiding the bars finally got the Philippines removed from Tier 3 status.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4976939

Econo Tech
06-28-11, 13:30
Throwing the Swedes running the cam sites in jail and raiding the bars finally got the Philippines removed from Tier 3 status.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4976939Not just that says me.

It is the number inflated by BI, by harassing legal travellers, and arresting / holding pax and then using dentist to check if they are legally above age or not.

Every year. 30, 000 passengers are stopped by BI. And last year they stopped 60, 000, under various rules and then count them as 'rescued [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) victims. '

And while poor job seekers, and even those with work approval get harassed, stopped and off-loaded by BI, miraculously, the so-called trafficking kingpins never get caught. Forgetting that majority of those stopped are trying to get out of the hell hole where they earn less than 5000 peso a month, to a decent and a better job overseas for atleast 10 times or more and BI proudly use the statistics, corroborated by the airlines in terms of lost seats, as the pax are 'victims'

All because Uncle Sam wants Positive action, and he gets Positive action.

Frenzy3
06-28-11, 13:45
Throwing the Swedes running the cam sites in jail and raiding the bars finally got the Philippines removed from Tier 3 status.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=4976939For the little effort to stop people making money they will keep millions "If they had remained on Tier 3, they faced US foreign aid being cut off."

JPF
06-28-11, 16:11
I have often gotten diarrhea during my Phils visits, and finally concluded maybe it was from "fresh" salads in which lettuce and other ingredients had been washed in tap water. I think it's unlikely that most restaurants use filtered water to rinse vegetables.Lettuce can be up to 95% water so contamination doesn't have to come from rinsing it. It can be "in" the lettuce itself. That is why they warn people to only eat cooked vegetables in third world countries.

Devils 1
06-28-11, 16:21
May I ask a general question, and I hope this is not silly.

I am 50, 6'1, athletic. 200 pounds, white, not bald, greying hair, American.

If I were to visit Angeles City this summer, what type of reaction could I expect from the bargirls there? I would like to spend my time with pretty girls aged 18 to 22 who will truly shower me with love and affection. GFE in short. Its all about you Dubois. Take your time, have fun, get to know the girls and wait for the one you click with. All of this will only take about 20 mins. I promise you will have your choice of 100's of model quality women every night. The only way to describe it is think of how cold, selfish, ugly, fat and unattractive american women are. Now think of the exact opposite and that is what you will find in A / C every hour of the day.

Slippery
06-28-11, 18:33
Its going to f*k you up with American or European women for the rest of your life. Your time will be spent either reminiscing or planning your next trip. My first trip out of the country was in 1998. I haven't dated an American woman since. I'm 10 years older than you, in reasonably good shape, shower and shave every day, and don't present myself personally as a slob or a drunken slob as I don't consume much alcohol. I come across with pinays as hansum, personable and kind with a good sense of humor. I have no problem pulling 18-25 in AC or Manila, both "good girls" and bar girls.

Member #4698
06-28-11, 23:30
Its going to f*k you up with American or European women for the rest of your life. Your time will be spent either reminiscing or planning your next trip. My first trip out of the country was in 1998.
All true, and every time I come back from an Asian trip satisfied and feeling like a man should, the local girls (Americana's in my case) sense this in me and react differently to me than before I ventured East. Every time I return I get a lot more smiles and sexy looks from the Florida girls and my batting average with them goes way up. Asia has changed me, forever!

Of course, after you shag an American girl you are still stuck with her insular feminist point of view and start longing to be with Asian girls again and I am not talking about Asian American girls. Asian women born and raised in the USA or any western country are no better than their Caucasian sisters. Modern western culture has destroyed western women IMO. So I will never stop going to Asia (PI, Thailand, Cambodia, and South China). It is simple; few western women know how to or care to please a man any more. They have been brainwashed to act and think like men. The only problem is, they ARE women and can’t escape that fact. I still find American girls physically attractive, but I can't stand their personalities after a week or so.

I always knew something was wrong, but never knew what it was until my first trip to Thailand back in 1989. What an eye opener that trip was. Since then a lot of my friends have come with me on trips to Asia and every one of them has reached the same conclusion. My friends who have not made the trip don’t get it. They seem unsure of themselves by comparison and are totally wussed out by the women they shag or are in relationships with. I feel sorry for these guys still suffering under the tyranny of feminist BS and living in sexual prison. But hey, that’s their problem. My next trip is scheduled for October. I can't wait.

Jbiz979
06-29-11, 09:15
First time in manila. I will be there August 3 for two weeks. I'm curious do I need to get any vaccinations? A

Fast Buck Artist
06-29-11, 09:59
First time in manila. I will be there August 3 for two weeks. I'm curious do I need to get any vaccinations? AIf its your first time, you are likely to spend a day riding the porcelain bus (the toilet) after eating the local food. The likelyhood of catching flu / common cold from the girls you meet is also quite high, since the strains of the flu present here are different from what you are immune to in your home country.

For more serious diseases. There is dengue fever and malaria on some of the islands but not on any of the typical tourist destinations.

Sexually transmitted diseases are not as widespread as in the african countries, but gonorrhea and chlamydia is fairly common. Condom up!

All that been said, I would NOT recommend to get any vaccinations. They often do more long term harm than good. For more in depth discussion on this topic check.

http://curezone.com/topic/vaccination/

Econo Tech
06-29-11, 10:09
All that been said, I would NOT recommend to get any vaccinations. They often do more long term harm than good. For more in depth discussion on this topic check.

http://curezone.com/topic/vaccination/Boost your immunisation by ensuring you have enough sleep, less alcohol, and multi-vitamin. And if it is your first time, ensure you have good food.

Some places are crappy and you will be forced to eat crappy food, and a week of crappy food can cause more hurt than getting runover by a jeepney.

Ekspat
06-29-11, 10:16
First time in manila. I will be there August 3 for two weeks. I'm curious do I need to get any vaccinations? ATetnus, Hepatitis A and B. Thats it I guess.

Unfortunately there aren't vaccinations against STD's, Malaria and Dengue.

Have fun!

FreebieFan
06-29-11, 10:29
Tetnus, Hepatitis A and B. Thats it I guess.

Unfortunately there aren't vaccinations against STD's, Malaria and Dengue.

Have fun!Theres also no vaccination against stupidity either. I seem to forget to eat when I'm in Manila frequently, and generally forget to sleep too. Oh and drink too much and have way too much sex.

GoodEnough
06-29-11, 12:11
First time in manila. I will be there August 3 for two weeks. I'm curious do I need to get any vaccinations? AI agree with the tetanus and Hep A and B recommendations and would strongly urge that you get them. As to riding the porcelein pony, I disagree. I've lived here for 8 years, or almost, and I think I've had dynsentery twice. Just don't eat off the street. Don't eat in local "eateries" and you'lll be fine. As a precaution, when you arrive, go to any pharmacy and buy ten Cipro 500 mg. Tablets and keep them handy. At the first sign of dynsentery, take one, and then two a day thereafter for 5 days.

GE

FreebieFan
06-29-11, 12:39
I agree with the tetanus and Hep A and B recommendations and would strongly urge that you get them. As to riding the porcelein pony, I disagree. I've lived here for 8 years, or almost, and I think I've had dynsentery twice. Just don't eat off the street. Don't eat in local "eateries" and you'lll be fine. As a precaution, when you arrive, go to any pharmacy and buy ten Cipro 500 mg. Tablets and keep them handy. At the first sign of dynsentery, take one, and then two a day thereafter for 5 days.

GEAs to not eating off the street take a look at how food is stored off the street after cooking.

Its left to heat if thats the right word in chafing dishes, with one small fuel capsule keeping it slightly warmed, even tho the food is left in the open (uncovered) with the outside temperature at 32 plus degrees.

Of course in the more refined off the street places a girl will ocassionally waft a stick in the direction of the food thereby ensuring no fly gets anywhere near the food.

And you wonder why people get sick.

Jbiz979
06-29-11, 22:19
I appreciate all your recommendations. Sleep, avoid local cuisine, chicks with flu or cold and condom up, multivitamin. Got It! Thanks Guys

FreebieFan
06-30-11, 02:12
I appreciate all your recommendations. Sleep, avoid local cuisine, chicks with flu or cold and condom up, multivitamin. Got It! Thanks GuysAnd have a ready smile for all. Even the fuglies. They have lovely sisters. Remember there are opportunities in abundance.

MadisonGuy
07-02-11, 23:11
I've got my premier trip planned on the 7th, maybe not the best time to go with what is happening in angeles but maybe that is par for the course. Anyway can I get a real break down of prices in Manila vs Angeles. I realize there is a difference per girl and bar but what is actually norm? It seems normal price is also for all night sometimes the next day too, do these girls not want a quick pop? Sometimes I just want to be done with them and kick them out of the room.

Also back to another topic not to long ago. Food poisoning. Is it that bad there? I've been to Tijuana and south South Korea which were probably the two worst places I have been food wise and never gotten anything. I try to be careful but every once in awhile I'll realize I'm brushing my teeth with tap water or something and pull an "oh shit" I only drink bottled water or beer in US so I'm fairly safe there, but hearing bottles be recycled and what not, is it that much worse there than in any other third world country? Thanks!

GoodEnough
07-03-11, 01:29
Also back to another topic not to long ago. Food poisoning. Is it that bad there? I've been to Tijuana and south South Korea which were probably the two worst places I have been food wise and never gotten anything. I try to be careful but every once in awhile I'll realize I'm brushing my teeth with tap water or something and pull an "oh shit" I only drink bottled water or beer in US so I'm fairly safe there, but hearing bottles be recycled and what not, is it that much worse there than in any other third world country? Thanks!I've lived here for almost 8 years, and I think maybe I've had food poisoning once during all that time. I don't eat in the local cheap restaurants (eateries) , and I never eat off the street. As I think I suggested before, when you get here, go to any pharmacy and buy a complete course (ten pills) of Ciprofloxicin (500 mgs.) in case you have a problem, but it's likely that you won't. You cannot of course, drink the water, but I brush my teeth with Manila water from the tap all the time, and I don't know the source of the water that went into the ice cubes in whatever I'm drinking. Again, if you stick to reasonable restaurants you should be fine.

GE

Devils 1
07-03-11, 03:16
Also back to another topic not to long ago. Food poisoning. Is it that bad there? I've been to Tijuana and south South Korea which were probably the two worst places I have been food wise and never gotten anything. I try to be careful but every once in awhile I'll realize I'm brushing my teeth with tap water or something and pull an "oh shit" I only drink bottled water or beer in US so I'm fairly safe there, but hearing bottles be recycled and what not, is it that much worse there than in any other third world country? Thanks!Madison, you will be fine. If you can handle Tijuana and S Korea this place is no worse. Basic rules: never drink tap water, never eat from a food stall on the street, never eat from Jollibee / Chowking or the other one that seems to be tied to these two, never drink the ice, only eat cooked food, only go to upscale restaurants, if something looks or smells bad it probably is.

I didn't mean to send the board into hysteria, the reality is I have the weakest stomach in the world. I seem to get the loose stools no matter where I travel or what I eat.

Red Kilt
07-03-11, 04:04
I try to be careful but every once in awhile I'll realize I'm brushing my teeth with tap water or something and pull an "oh shit" I only drink bottled water or beer in US so I'm fairly safe there, but hearing bottles be recycled and what not, is it that much worse there than in any other third world country? Thanks!The safety levels for cleanliness in all the mall eateries in Manila (Makati and Ortigas Center, for example) , are high and you should not have much of a problem if you eat in high-turnover restaurants and the well-known chains (Pizza Hut, KFC, etc).

I would be more selective in any of the food courts in these malls. Some of the food sits there at low heat for who-knows-how-long so I would be wanting to buy something that is grilled while I wait (like a chicken barbecue) if ever I needed to eat in a food court.

Most of the larger hotels in Manila treat the water coming through their systems (try smelling the water on most early mornings and you will get a good whiff of chlorine-type smell)

My condo treats the water that we get through the water system and none of my family or visitors have ever had any problem with using it for teeth-brushing etc.

We drink water from the large dispensers that are distributed by the water companies. The same ones that produce the bottled water that you buy in 7/11 and supermarkets.

Restaurants get their ice from the same source, delivered in cubes etc in large bags that come from the same bottled water sources.

I believe that you can trust these sources. Both GE and I have had no problems in our accumulated 24 years of experience living here but we are careful where we eat.

I would be wary about the small eateries that locals use along the streets in Ermita and Malate in "old" Manila, and especially the street carts. We have all seen the way they chop up their ice on the pavements next to where people spit and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) all day.

Soapy Smith
07-03-11, 10:41
We have all seen the way they chop up their ice on the pavements next to where people spit and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) all day.I love the way they dry rice in the provinces by putting it out in thin layers on the nearby road to dry. Sometimes plastic goes down under the rice, but not always. Since the rice often takes up half the width of the roadway, drivers will drive into the other lane to avoid it if nobody's coming the other direction. But when they meet another vehicle they just drive right through the rice. The farmers just sweep the rice off the road and bag it after it's dry. Maybe it gets milled again in an attempt to get out chaff and impurities, or maybe not. Helps explain the extra little crunchiness that's sometimes present in rice in Philippine restaurants. But at least it's been cooked, right; so what's the problem?

Red Kilt
07-03-11, 11:35
I love the way they dry rice in the provinces by putting it out in thin layers on the nearby road to dry. Sometimes plastic goes down under the rice, but not always. Since the rice often takes up half the width of the roadway, drivers will drive into the other lane to avoid it if nobody's coming the other direction. But when they meet another vehicle they just drive right through the rice. The farmers just sweep the rice off the road and bag it after it's dry. Maybe it gets milled again in an attempt to get out chaff and impurities, or maybe not. Helps explain the extra little crunchiness that's sometimes present in rice in Philippine restaurants. But at least it's been cooked, right; so what's the problem?I said "ice" in my previous post Skip, not rice.

What you referred to in your post was the rice on the road side, usually in relatively small amounts for household consumption. It is the palay (freshly harvested grains) that they are drying. I have joined in the chore in my family province on numerous occasions to walk up and down with the wooden spade "turning it over" every 15 to 30 mins to dry it. The large quantities of commercially consumed white rice (that you will eat in restaurants) is more often dried in large drying drums in the buyers' depots.

After drying it goes through an extreme milling process first when they grind the bejesus out of it leaving the tasteless white glue behind.

In my condo we actually eat brown rice all the time, which apart from a superior nutty flavor has at least some nutrition left behind. Slowly but surely the consumption of brown rice is increasing in the Philippines, but it is more expensive than white rice even though white rice costs more to produce.

http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/94/1/Brown-rice-vs-white-rice.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_rice

FreebieFan
07-03-11, 11:37
I said "ice" Skip not rice.

In my condo we actually eat brown rice all the time, which apart from a superior nutty flavor has at least some nutrition left behind. Slowly but surely the consumption of brown rice is increasing in the Philippines, but it is more expensive than white rice even though white rice costs more to produce.

http://www.greenlivingtips.com/articles/94/1/Brown-rice-vs-white-rice.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brown_riceTry the red rice from Baguio. Very flavourful and obviously as with brown rice, substantially more nutritious.

Soapy Smith
07-03-11, 11:52
I said "ice" in my previous post Skip, not rice.I know you were talking about ice, but the image of chopping ice on the sidewalk brought up road drying of rice in my mind. Although it has nothing to do with eating, I also wonder at the way construction crews mix concrete on the ground-and no doubt get a bunch of dirt into the limestone, shale, and water that otherwise form a strong chemical reaction and strong building material. It makes you wonder about the strength of building practices in the Philippines. I have friends who are convinced the Mall of Asia is going to experience a major collapse with serious loss of life in the near future--as a result both of shoddy building practices as well as the persistent settling of the reclaimed land on which it was built.

Your explanation of rice drying methods is reassuring, but now how can I reconcile my occasional experiences of crunching down on what feels like dirt or grit when I'm eating rice in the Philippines? The alternative explanations are almost more disgusting than dirt getting in the rice from drying it on the road.

Econo Tech
07-03-11, 12:19
I love the way they dry rice in the provinces by putting it out in thin layers on the nearby road to dry. Sometimes plastic goes down under the rice, but not always. Since the rice often takes up half the width of the roadway, drivers will drive into the other lane to avoid it if nobody's coming the other direction. But when they meet another vehicle they just drive right through the rice. The farmers just sweep the rice off the road and bag it after it's dry. Maybe it gets milled again in an attempt to get out chaff and impurities, or maybe not. Helps explain the extra little crunchiness that's sometimes present in rice in Philippine restaurants. But at least it's been cooked, right; so what's the problem?Well, in Asia, almost everywhere, that is how rice gets treated. People in Asia can't afford to have rice treated like precious minerals. Small farmers can't afford to rent a machine to seperate the rice. And the drivers are expected to drive over the drying rice, to also help to seperate the rice from the stalk.

Go to India, or Thailand.

And the bottom line is, when they mill the rice, of course everything gets removed. And if you cooking, in Asia, people wash the rice atleast three times, before boiling it, unlike Caucasians who believe anything in a pack is clean to eat. (I remember the guy who said Salad is safe, never thinking how impure salad can be, compared to cooked food.)

Actually, good bars don't use Ice makers for the same reason. An unclean iceamaker can host a lot of things, including cockroaches, and even once I fished out a Scorpion

And to add some fire, to whoever said LAC ice is impure. I remember LAC ice being shipped from the Ice Makers, the subsidiary of San Miguel, if I remember correctly. As I had this conversation. About the ice being pure or not.

Now, if San Miguel shipped the dirty bagged Ice, then too bad. After all, everything in Philippines is monopolised, and maybe they have a law protectign ice-makers, by banning Ice Machines. Or, in jest, the bars with ice machines don't get city sanitation permit. How else can the rich families become richer?

Red Kilt
07-03-11, 13:21
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Your explanation of rice drying methods is reassuring, but now how can I reconcile my occasional experiences of crunching down on what feels like dirt or grit when I'm eating rice in the Philippines? The alternative explanations are almost more disgusting than dirt getting in the rice from drying it on the road.I an sure there are far more disgusting perils around for mongers who are not highly selective about what they put in their mouths Skip. At least what I am thinking about has not been cooked.

Econo Tech
07-04-11, 03:35
I know you were talking about ice, but the image of chopping ice on the sidewalk brought up road drying of rice in my mind. Although it has nothing to do with eating, I also wonder at the way construction crews mix concrete on the ground-and no doubt get a bunch of dirt into the limestone, shale, and water that otherwise form a strong chemical reaction and strong building material. It makes you wonder about the strength of building practices in the Philippines. I have friends who are convinced the Mall of Asia is going to experience a major collapse with serious loss of life in the near future--as a result both of shoddy building practices as well as the persistent settling of the reclaimed land on which it was built.If your friend is a structural engineer, and has seen the stress / load bearing of MOA. Good.

I have a friend who has scouted a place in MOA, and, he being Singaporean, ran the same process as in Singapore. Check for load bearing / safety etc. He was not stupid to park his 500K US, if it was so unsafe. Sorry.


Your explanation of rice drying methods is reassuring, but now how can I reconcile my occasional experiences of crunching down on what feels like dirt or grit when I'm eating rice in the Philippines? The alternative explanations are almost more disgusting than dirt getting in the rice from drying it on the road.Errr. Pardon me sir, do I get to know in which green-house, climate controlled, and using purified air, and pure distilled water is rice manufactured? !

Soapy Smith
07-04-11, 09:09
If your friend is a structural engineer, and has seen the stress / load bearing of MOA. Good. I have a friend who has scouted a place in MOA, and, he being Singaporean, ran the same process as in Singapore. Check for load bearing / safety etc. He was not stupid to park his 500K US, if it was so unsafe. Sorry. Errr. Pardon me sir, do I get to know in which green-house, climate controlled, and using purified air, and pure distilled water is rice manufactured? !Thanks for the feedback, ET. Have I pissed you off? Sorry, that wasn't my intention. I was passing along casual observations, not claiming these to be established facts.

Econo Tech
07-04-11, 09:22
Thanks for the feedback, ET. Have I pissed you off? Sorry, that wasn't my intention. I was passing along casual observations, not claiming these to be established facts.[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off? Nope. Never.

Well, knowing the Filipino standards, I could agree with you in some places though. Like those precariously placed residential properties that are given certification. As long as built by Filipino Engineers, with a Filipino architect. !

As for the sinking stuff, living in Singapore, well, there is nothing called 'stabilised' land, in my view. After all, about 10% of land, including the site of the Marina Bay Sands and Changi Airport etc are built in reclaimed land. Though I am not a civil engineer.

Then again, MOA is owned by another mega-rich family. You never know how or where they do their certifications. !

GoodEnough
07-04-11, 12:03
Thanks for the feedback, ET. Have I pissed you off? Sorry, that wasn't my intention. I was passing along casual observations, not claiming these to be established facts.Not to worry, it's a legitimate concern. Having first-hand experience with the highly questionable skill levels of locally-trained engineers here-albeit on much smaller projects-I can well understand the conclusions of your friends. In fact, every time I get to one of the higher floors of a building in Makati, I dwell lightly on the concern about the quantity and quality of the rebar and the concrete that's holding up the floors. My best friend here is a supervising design engineer (American) and some of the stories he tells me about some of the designs he's seen give me pause as well. However, I think MOA is owned by SM and I'm fairly sure I've been told by people who actually know, that their stuff, as well as the buildings constructed by Ayala are actually built to pretty stringent international specifications.

GE

Soapy Smith
07-05-11, 08:17
Not to worry, it's a legitimate concern. Having first-hand experience with the highly questionable skill levels of locally-trained engineers here-albeit on much smaller projects-I can well understand the conclusions of your friends. In fact, every time I get to one of the higher floors of a building in Makati, I dwell lightly on the concern about the quantity and quality of the rebar and the concrete that's holding up the floors. My best friend here is a supervising design engineer (American) and some of the stories he tells me about some of the designs he's seen give me pause as well. However, I think MOA is owned by SM and I'm fairly sure I've been told by people who actually know, that their stuff, as well as the buildings constructed by Ayala are actually built to pretty stringent international specifications. GEYes, MOA is owned by SM, the corporation formed by shoe merchant Henry Sy, ostensibly the richest man in the Philippines.

Col Law
07-05-11, 14:03
Yearly insurance (health) polices anyone with experience purchasing the same in Phil?

MadisonGuy
07-05-11, 15:26
Ok I have been reading a lot and trying to get a general feel for pricing as to not over pay when I'm in Philippines. But there's conflicting evidence for me of what the cost is to actually get a girl back with you. I've seen some people say you pay bar fine, around 1500 pesos and then tip the girl at the end which to me a gracious tip would be 500 pesos. But I've seen a lot of break down posts that said 1500 bar fine and 1500 tip, a tip is not double in most cases so I'm curious as to if the word "tip" is actually an agreement so really the price is 3000 or whatever is negotiated on top of bar fine? Some clarification would be great so I don't look like a total noob when I'm there.

Almotu
07-05-11, 16:07
Ok I have been reading a lot and trying to get a general feel for pricing as to not over pay when I'm in Philippines. But there's conflicting evidence for me of what the cost is to actually get a girl back with you. I've seen some people say you pay bar fine, around 1500 pesos and then tip the girl at the end which to me a gracious tip would be 500 pesos. But I've seen a lot of break down posts that said 1500 bar fine and 1500 tip, a tip is not double in most cases so I'm curious as to if the word "tip" is actually an agreement so really the price is 3000 or whatever is negotiated on top of bar fine? Some clarification would be great so I don't look like a total noob when I'm there.Madison: I can only tell you how things work in Angeles City (A. C.) as that is the extent of my hobbying experience in The Philippines. The barfine is supposed to cover an overnight stay (LT) which could range from 1000 PHP (piso) to 3000 PHP. No extras are implied. You may tip for exceptional service. Most of my barfines want to leave after a couple of hours so I let them and don't give them any additional money. They are fine with that arrangement. The girls only get a portion of the barfine you paid to the bar. This amount is roughly half of the barfine. So if you are ever offered a 'direct' date without involving the bar, offering slightly over 50% of the barfine would not be out of bounds.

MadisonGuy
07-05-11, 16:49
Madison: I can only tell you how things work in Angeles City (A. C.) as that is the extent of my hobbying experience in The Philippines. The barfine is supposed to cover an overnight stay (LT) which could range from 1000 PHP (piso) to 3000 PHP. No extras are implied. You may tip for exceptional service. Most of my barfines want to leave after a couple of hours so I let them and don't give them any additional money. They are fine with that arrangement. The girls only get a portion of the barfine you paid to the bar. This amount is roughly half of the barfine. So if you are ever offered a 'direct' date without involving the bar, offering slightly over 50% of the barfine would not be out of bounds.Thanks, that is kind of what I was thinking was going on but have seen some people post a seperate 1500 pesos for the girl. I don't know if they just don't like money or something else is going on.

Member #4698
07-05-11, 17:46
Madisonguy,

The answer to your question depends on where you are. Don't get hung up on the words. It is a matter of location, location, location.

In AC bars charge an EWR which includes the bar fine + service charge. This EWR is 1500p for LT in most places on Fields except for the "model" quality girls where the EWR is 3000p for LT inclusive. After being with the girl if you feel like tipping her extra it is up to you. RTFF for the endless debates on tipping etiquette.

In Makati it is a different ballgame. In the Burgos street bars there is a bar fine or EWR which is not inclusive of services rendered so the so called "tip" is not really a tip but rather a service charge and must be negotiated separately like in BKK GoGo's. The bar fines and service charges LT or ST vary from bar to bar and in some bars like Rogues you can receive in-house service if that's what you desire. To give you an example; a Burgos street bar girl will run 1500p to 3000p for bar fine (EWR) and another 2000p to 4000p for LT service. If you wish to tip the girl above this it is again up to you, but not mandatory. Burgos Street is not cheap, but try Rogues Bar. I think you will like it (read my Rogues bar report). Also in Makati, there is Havana Cafe in Greenbelt 3. Much has been written about Havana Cafe. There you will find FL's that charge between 1500p and 2500p LT total and here a tip is not mandatory.

I have never been to Cebu but plan to. Price structure in Cebu Bars is written up in the Cebu thread. I hope this helps.

MadisonGuy
07-05-11, 17:50
Awesome thanks!

Frenzy3
07-09-11, 06:49
There is a guy going around the bars doing video and not asking the girls if he can upload them. One of my FF has found out her friends videos are on line. I would worry if I was that guy as the girls are saying they are contacting the police now.

It is ilegal to post video of pina who you pay to do video so unless she is you GF you can face the law. Lets see what he gets hit with.

They have blocked the site from PI with "Why am I seeing this page?

Your IP address based on the country, region or network has been flagged by the website owner."

Buko Max
07-09-11, 07:53
They have blocked the site from PI with "Why am I seeing this page?If you pay someone a fee for pics or vids, I believe that is an implied contract.

How about posting the website again less the www and com.

Thanks

Red Kilt
07-12-11, 15:35
Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/remembrance-of-message-boards-past/?nl=opinion&emc=tya1

ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up.

Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and again

Sammon
07-12-11, 16:29
Madison: I can only tell you how things work in Angeles City (A. C.) as that is the extent of my hobbying experience in The Philippines. The barfine is supposed to cover an overnight stay (LT) which could range from 1000 PHP (piso) to 3000 PHP. No extras are implied. You may tip for exceptional service. Most of my barfines want to leave after a couple of hours so I let them and don't give them any additional money. They are fine with that arrangement. The girls only get a portion of the barfine you paid to the bar. This amount is roughly half of the barfine. So if you are ever offered a 'direct' date without involving the bar, offering slightly over 50% of the barfine would not be out of bounds.1. Barfine is to take the girl out of the bar. Although sex is expected but not guaranteed. Although if the girl does not perform atleast one time you can take the girl back to the bar as many mongers have done and got the money back. In some cases they have substituted another girl of your preference.

Not all mo0ngers go this route. Sometimes they will just loose the money and chalk it up to experience. Partly because they feel sorry for these girls.

There are several reasomns girls will refuse which include she is on the rag, just does not like you drunk, body odor, smelly breath, size of penis etc.

These girls can be picky sometimes but they never disclose this at the time of barfine. Some will say only for barhopping. Avoid them.

2. Experience varies from girl to girl if they stay LT or run after one shot. Some girls are hard to get rid of. They will stay till next evening. Some hope you will barfine again.

If the girl decides to run, there is nothing you can do but let her go.

Once she had sex with you one time bar will not honor your complaints.

3. If the barfine is 1500 pesos, the girl gets 600 pesos. Do not know how much they get if 3000 peso barfine. Personally never barfined 3000 peso girls.

4. Tip is not expected but in general 200-500 pesos depending on service and attitude is considered normal.

Some with money to burn have paid upwards of 3000 pesos tip, girls tell me. Hard to know if they are lying.

5. Sometimes it is possible to get the girl come over after her shift. If the girl is staying with other girls in the dorm they will not do it. However if they live by themselves maybe.

There are snitches in their group and backbiting and jealousy are common.

WestCoast1
07-12-11, 22:42
Once she had sex with you one time bar will not honor your complaints.This is all AC stuff.

Not necessarily. In some bars (not all) , if the girl agrees to particulars prior to departing the bar, the bar may honor your complaint. Solutions may include: partial refund, having the girl return to you, or offering a different girl. For instance, if the girl agreed to stay until, say. 9am the next morning, then ran away in the night without good reason, they may have her finish the time with you, or offer you a different girl. They will pull everything in the world to avoid a partial refund.


These girls can be picky sometimes but they never disclose this at the time of barfine.All the more reason to spell out your list of needs to the girl before agreeing to barfine.


3. If the barfine is 1500 pesos, the girl gets 600 pesos.Every girl, waitress, and mamasan has told me the girl gets exactly half. This includes the ST bars on Santos, the girl gets 350 of your 700. I was wrong about all of them cutting their ST timeframe to 2 hours, as two of them are at 3 hours. This is still a reduction from the prior 4 hours.


Some with money to burn have paid upwards of 3000 pesos tip, girls tell me. Hard to know if they are lying.After a 3-some ST with two Santos girls we had an hour to kill so I took them to Crystal Palace for a drink. While there, they shared with me that they had both been in the bar for a whopping 2 weeks, and that one of them had an american customer in her first week who:

* was tremedously fat.

* barfined her 4 nights in a row.

* on one of those nights he barfined 3 other girls, just to have 4 girls in tow.

* never had sex with any of the girls, including her.

* gave every girl a p5000 tip each night, and turned them loose early.

* took the girls out partying, and only went to the room to snap a few pics and drink more. Never sex.

The girls were cracking up telling me this. The other girl said about the highly-tipped girl: What she got that I don't?

FreebieFan
07-13-11, 02:08
Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards.

http://opinionator.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/07/10/remembrance-of-message-boards-past/?nl=opinion&emc=tya1

ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up.

Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and againYou are right Sir. Lots of us longer term members around (we all know who we are) with a few enthusiastic noisy newbies now and again always telling us how wrong we are, how they did it better, how much younger their girls were, how we basically don't know so much etc.

Then they wander off into other areas never to be seen again. I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.

Fast Eddie 48
07-13-11, 06:38
This is all AC stuff.

Not necessarily. In some bars (not all) , if the girl agrees to particulars prior to departing the bar, the bar may honor your complaint. Solutions may include: partial refund, having the girl return to you, or offering a different girl. For instance, if the girl agreed to stay until, say. 9am the next morning, then ran away in the night without good reason, they may have her finish the time with you, or offer you a different girl. They will pull everything in the world to avoid a partial refund.

All the more reason to spell out your list of needs to the girl before agreeing to barfine.

Every girl, waitress, and mamasan has told me the girl gets exactly half. This includes the ST bars on Santos, the girl gets 350 of your 700. I was wrong about all of them cutting their ST timeframe to 2 hours, as two of them are at 3 hours. This is still a reduction from the prior 4 hours.

After a 3-some ST with two Santos girls we had an hour to kill so I took them to Crystal Palace for a drink. While there, they shared with me that they had both been in the bar for a whopping 2 weeks, and that one of them had an american customer in her first week who:

* was tremedously fat.

* barfined her 4 nights in a row.

* on one of those nights he barfined 3 other girls, just to have 4 girls in tow.

* never had sex with any of the girls, including her.

* gave every girl a p5000 tip each night, and turned them loose early.

* took the girls out partying, and only went to the room to snap a few pics and drink more. Never sex.

The girls were cracking up telling me this. The other girl said about the highly-tipped girl: What she got that I don't?To Westcoast,

I been going to AC for over 12 yr and I have about 4 runner most all in the last 2 yr and I have never got a refund not a single peso from the bar yet, only once I got another girl after I go back to the bar and complain, now most Mamasan tell me no refund after I recieve service from the girl even I ask them girl must stay all night,

Fast Eddie 48

Soapy Smith
07-13-11, 08:25
Interesting Opinion piece in todays NY Times on the decline of online message boards. ISG must be going against the trend since the board seems very active to me, but I don't have any numbers to back it up. Then again, maybe it is the same old group who keep posting on the Philippines board at least, with a fresh member popping in every now and againWithout having read the NYT piece I would suppose that social network sites are replacing much of the communication that previously occurred on message boards. But social network sites have their liabilities, especially that all of a person's friends see the content, so a person's whole life can be on display. Lots of people get themselves in trouble when a prospective employer, current employer, or political enemies find their public trash. The nature of ISG's content is such that most sensible men would never dream of putting this stuff on Facebook or Twitter. But there are some exceptions. One WG once showed me her facebook page, and on it she had three guys as "friends" whose facebook pages made it clear they'd been mongering in the Phils. I pointed out to her that, even though there were no compromising pictures of her on their pages, her being a Filipina "friend" to men whose facebook pages made it clear they'd been mongering in the Phils wasn't going to look good to any of her other friends who weren't aware of her professional pursuits. She got the point and deleted her links to them. Two of the guys were American, one was a Brit.

My point is that ISG probably still thrives because of our need to keep our socially-disapproved activities out of the public eyes of Facebook and Twitter participants.

RasSpewtin
07-13-11, 09:06
My point is that ISG probably still thrives because of our need to keep our socially-disapproved activities out of the public eyes of Facebook and Twitter participants.Good points, Skip;

I learned some valuable lessons years ago when I first started frequenting the Philippines. Back then all of the Filipinas were on that gossip site known as Friendster. It quickly became evident that unless you plan to have one gf and only one for the next many years, then these sites were not such a wise thing to belong to. The routine was always the same. Meet a gal in person on on a dating site and the first thing that she did was to try to add you to her friendster. Once that link was established, then she dug her claws into you and asked endless questions about every other female on your page. Nothing but a machine that feeds the jealous nature of women and Filipinas in particular.

So I stopped using Friendster and Face Book and anything else that reeks of invasion to my privacy. When asked to join someone else's FB I simply reply that I have kids and don't want them exposed to a whole world of creeps. A whole lot less drama these days as a result.

Cheers;
Raz

Red Kilt
07-13-11, 10:50
I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.I cannot imagine why FF.

I never picked you as an "argumentative type" but I guess we all make mistakes.

Check out the classic Monty Python link if you really want to learn how to "argue"

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-572077907195969915

Buko Max
07-13-11, 12:54
Then they wander off into other areas never to be seen again. I'm in the "ISG says he's argumentative" sin bin for the next 6 months so am choosing my words with care. LOL.You have been on moderated status for quite some time now. One has to wonder why Jackson would do that to a fine, upstanding senior member such as yourself! :confused:

FreebieFan
07-14-11, 01:54
You have been on moderated status for quite some time now. One has to wonder why Jackson would do that to a fine, upstanding senior member such as yourself! :confused:I agree with you. But then its fairly obvious that I would. Welcome to the new "agreeable" me. LOL.

MadisonGuy
07-14-11, 03:24
Ok I have read about posts on having a hard time of getting girls out. I had a couple girls from Fields in AC that really stayed longer than I would have liked but when I left they left. I recently decided to cut ties with a girl that wasn't a working girl and oh my god was it so damn hard to get her to leave. She was with me for all of 2 or 3 days and we talked online for about 1-2 weeks. But yet somehow she's head over heals in love with me and I have to argue with her to get her to leave and then she's crying when I walk her out of the hotel and it was just not a very desirable experience. Another reason I like my latinas, they will storm out in a fit of rage when I say things aren't working out and I'd like them to leave. I suppose at 18 there is some childish behavior to be expected but that was not very fun for me. She never wanted a dime either, so guys they do exist regardless of what the forum tends to believe. This girl never let me pay for her taxi, when I went to the spa she wanted to sit and wait I had to force her to do it, and I tried to give her 2k to get her on her way quicker but she wasn't having that either. I think it's hard to find a middle road, either they want to prove that they don't want money or they want to bleed you dry.

FreebieFan
07-14-11, 04:49
Good points, Skip;

So I stopped using Friendster and Face Book and anything else that reeks of invasion to my privacy. When asked to join someone else's FB I simply reply that I have kids and don't want them exposed to a whole world of creeps. A whole lot less drama these days as a result.

Cheers;

RazWell Friendster has now morphed into something totally different and is now only for "gamers". I thought thats what we were LOL.

Re FB, I think I have found the solution. The best way to see girls pics is obviously through FB.

But the hassle and "who are your friends and why are all they female Filipina / Thai / Indonesian girls" are troublesome questions.

So I have a fb site that has nothing on it. Has a made up name, no details, no friends, but it allows me to add the girls who invite me to see their pics, assess whether they are my type then delete them.

This works great for me. Lets see if Google+ is more monger friendly.

Fast Buck Artist
07-14-11, 08:24
I found an improved solution to the Facebook problem.

Create a blank facebook, fill in the personal info section with some crap, and sign up for one of these social games like Cityville or Farmtown. You can quickly add 100 friends who are playing the game. Upload some photos of yourself and your hometown / home country. Your game "friends" will be posting stuff on your wall, mostly game related. The result is a fairly realistic facebook account that can easily pass as your real facebook account. It has your photos there, a big list of friends with western-sounding names, and a frequently updated wall.

Set your facebook privacy settings so your photo albums can only be viewed by added friends to safeguard them from family/colleagues who might accidentally stumble onto your monger facebook account.

Now you can use this fb account to add your pinay prospects with no worries or concerns.


Well Friendster has now morphed into something totally different and is now only for "gamers". I thought thats what we were LOL.

Re FB, I think I have found the solution. The best way to see girls pics is obviously through FB.

But the hassle and "who are your friends and why are all they female Filipina / Thai / Indonesian girls" are troublesome questions.

So I have a fb site that has nothing on it. Has a made up name, no details, no friends, but it allows me to add the girls who invite me to see their pics, assess whether they are my type then delete them.

This works great for me. Lets see if Google+ is more monger friendly.

FurryFriend
07-14-11, 11:06
i found an improved solution to the facebook problem.

create a blank facebook, fill in the personal info section with some crap, and sign up for one of these social games like cityville or farmtown. you can quickly add 100 friends who are playing the game. upload some photos of yourself and your hometown / home country. your game "friends" will be posting stuff on your wall, mostly game related. the result is a fairly realistic facebook account that can easily pass as your real facebook account. it has your photos there, a big list of friends with western-sounding names, and a frequently updated wall.

set your facebook privacy settings so your photo albums can only be viewed by added friends to safeguard them from family / colleagues who might accidentally stumble onto your monger facebook account.

now you can use this fb account to add your pinay prospects with no worries or concerns.

if she views it, she'll probably know something is wrong. pinays surf facebook furiously and i'm sure she can tell if something's fishy.

those random cityville friends probably won't respond to any of your personal posts. so if you post a status ("getting ready for my big trip to the phils!") , nobody will respond or "like" your status. the same for your photos. all you'd get are game-related posts. this is a dead giveaway that it's either a fake facebook or you truly have no friends.

i have a friend on my facebook with 4, 000 friends. it's flooded with game-related posts. but every time he posts something personal, he only gets 1-2 replies. that spells "loser".

if you do it just to peek at a girl's facebook, fine. but if you use it to communicate and to pretend that it's real, your fake facebook with little/no participation from others will make you look pretty loserish.

however, why don't all of us create fake facebooks and we all agree to participate on each other's pages (in addition to have 100s of random cityville "friends")? that would truly solve the fb "problem".

Econo Tech
07-14-11, 11:28
If she views it, she'll probably know something is wrong. Pinays surf Facebook furiously and I'm sure she can tell if something's fishy.You give too much credit to pinays. I know enough who send all kinds of invite, and heck, even they too have fake profiles. Like a girl I know, tagged her colleague as mother, and the DJ in the bar as her father, and her co-dancers as sisters.

Those smart enough to find something fishy would not be busy chatting you up. On Facebook.

Yah, they surf furiously, but for fuck all reasons. Including the bragging rights to have many friends, and send out all kinds of invites (fuck cares if anybody responds or not)

I heard this conversation between to filipina maids here.

Maid 1: you have facebook?

Maid 2: Yes.

Maid 1: how many friends do you have?

Maid 2:40.

Maid 1:40? You must be lonely. I have 1, 500 you know.

And me thinking, if she sends 500 of her friends is in contact, every day. On an average, at 3 minutes for each poke / super poke / invite, it is 500 X 2 = 1, 500 minutes. And last I checked a day had only 1440 minutes.

Their facebook is only if you are the top of their interest, and also if you tag them. Etc. And for fuck all most of them spend their online time tagging.

And vast majority have no freaking clue about why the other guy's friends are hidden. Etc. Or even know there is such a thing called wall. Their responses are very reactive. Tag and get reply, post on THEIR WALL, and they get reply. And all their friends are exposed.

I rest my case.

PS: I friended a girl from ABC hotel and within a day, another person with the same surname is asking to friend me. Guess who? Mama and daughter share their facebook password and when daughter is at work, mama updates the page, and vice-versa. And mama want to friend me. Fuck it. I blocked both of 'them out. And sometimes, even online chat, they delegate the chat to friends, to chat on their behalf. No kidding.

Fast Buck Artist
07-15-11, 03:35
However, why don't all of us create fake Facebooks and we all agree to participate on each other's pages (in addition to have 100s of random Cityville "friends")? That would truly solve the FB "problem".Excellent idea! We should add each others mongerbooks and form a little network, posting some comments on each others pages and photos.

Everyone interested: PM me to add my mongerbook.

Hairy Wonder
07-17-11, 03:13
Pharmacology Trade Names and Generic Names.

In Pharmacology, all drugs have two names, a trade name and generic name. For example, the trade name of Tylenol also has a generic name of Acetaminophen. Aleve is also called Naproxen. Amoxil is also called Amoxicillin and Advil is also called Ibuprofen.

The FDA has been looking for a generic name for Viagra. After careful consideration by a team of government experts, it recently announced that it has settled on the generic name of Mycoxafloppin. Also considered were Mycoxafailin, Mydixadrupin, Mydixarizin, Dixafix, and of course, Ibepokin.

Pfizer Corp. Announced today that Viagra will soon be available in liquid form, and will be marketed by Pepsi Cola as a power beverage suitable for use as a mixer. It will now be possible for a man to literally pour himself a stiff one. Obviously we can no longer call this a soft drink, and it gives new meaning to the names of "cocktails","highballs" and just a good old-fashioned "stiff drink". Pepsi will market the new concoction by the name of: MOUNT & DO.

Thought for the day: There is more money being spent on breast implants and Viagra today than on Alzheimer's research. This means that by 2040, there should be a large elderly population with perky boobs and huge erections and absolutely no recollection of what to do with them.

:D

MadisonGuy
07-19-11, 19:42
You give too much credit to pinays. I know enough who send all kinds of invite, and heck, even they too have fake profiles. Like a girl I know, tagged her colleague as mother, and the DJ in the bar as her father, and her co-dancers as sisters.

PS: I friended a girl from ABC hotel and within a day, another person with the same surname is asking to friend me. Guess who? Mama and daughter share their facebook password and when daughter is at work, mama updates the page, and vice-versa. And mama want to friend me. Fuck it. I blocked both of 'them out. And sometimes, even online chat, they delegate the chat to friends, to chat on their behalf. No kidding.Yup I noticed this too at Lewis, two girls were on same facebook page chatting with a guy. That is why I only will chat with cam. I want to get the info a one girl from ABC hotel, just not sure how to do it. Not for sex purposes but for work I want to get her working for me.

Chocha Monger
07-20-11, 19:33
Reports show that foreign business is not eager to invest in the Philippines and be fleeced like so many others. One would think the people carrying out and enabling the fleecings of foreigners would be the ones to blame but it seems that it is the press that is really at fault for reporting "bad news" and "negative stories." Well, at least they're consistent in their message. The wolves are never to blame. If it's not the foreign sheep's fault it must be the fault of the boy yelling wolf and scaring the sheep away.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/article.aspx?cp-documentid=5068251

Devils 1
07-24-11, 19:22
Just when you think you've heard it all you run into a new Filipina and she tells you a story that blows your mind! I have been dating this girl recently, and true to form she brings all of her friends along for me to meet and buy a free meal. Well one night she brings a friend along that is so beautiful that I can't believe my eyes. The girl is educated, sweet and very fun and comes from a good family. Of course the conversation with these girls always goes in one of two directions; why my family is so poor or how this guy fucked me over. With this girl I knew her family was very good so I wasn't surprised to hear that some guy fucked her over so badly. The girl is beautiful enough to be a model or movie star. Then she goes on to tell me he was a western guy. And I would be willing to bet he is reading this right now. So here goes.

She was a normal girl in the province, going to college, and she decides to look for a mature, honest and successful guy on line. She meets a great guy from a western country, for over a year they talk and get to know each other, then he finally visits her several times in the course of a couple years. After the proper amount of time her and her family get comfortable with their daughter moving a very long way to get married and start a family. Well she is not in the new country very long before she starts to smell a rat. (we have all heard this story before, but read on it gets way better) The guy works a lot of hours and thinks it is better to go get drunk with his friends every night after work rather than going home to bang his 20 yr old 90 pound, model looking fiance. Now at this point she tells me when he would come to the phils to visit her for months on end, he would always go travelling around the islands. Without her! Strike 1.

Now that she is finally living in his country, the guy has decided that it is time for him to go travelling again. In the Phils, without her! Strike 2. Well you know these Filipina girls are like miniature detectives. She starts digging in his passport and other travel papers before he leaves the country. She discovers this guy has been cutting a path through Asia as wide as the Jap army during world war 2. If you've read about pussy for sale on this forum in any Asian country this guy has visited the country and stayed there for several weeks. How he is spending his time and amusing himself while there we do not know, yet! Keep in mind this is a 20 yr old girl just off the boat from the province, living in an all white country and she has no idea about things like mongering! About this time, the guy is out of the country, she starts to talk to the girls down at work about her future husband being out of the country. She is bored and has no friends other than the girls at work. Well the girls at work start to slowly ask her questions about where he is at and what does he do for so long when he's gone? So the detectives magnifying glass comes out and she starts digging in his computer and old dating sites. Well the guy is keeping contact on these dating sites with 100's of girls all over Asia. She finds pics of him in exotic locations with different girls doing a lot of different things. And I don't mean buying t-shirts! Slowly she is starting to realize the guy was not only visiting the Phils and her, he was going to 2-3 other countries before or after he visited her!

So here is the defining moment. She finds a list with all of these different girls names on it, most of the names so exotic that she can't even pronounce them. She rolls through the list (which takes a long time, because it is a long list) and her name is on the list. At number 2237!

Now when she told me that my mouth almost fell to the floor. But then she says to me with a completely straight face, what could this be a list of and how could there be 2236 before me! I laughed so loud they almost kicked me out of the restaurant. I didn't have the heart or the desire to tell her it has to be a score card. At any rate, when you think you have seen it all there is always someone out there with a crazier story than yours.

If you're curious she confronted him when he returned with all of the evidence. He denied it but it didn't matter. She moved out, kept her job and stayed in the country for several years. She recently returned to Manila and has setup several small businesses with relatives using all of the money she made overseas.

Nvslim
07-25-11, 09:54
Any one remember the url for the smiley faces?

Thanks,

Slim

Econo Tech
07-25-11, 11:32
So here is the defining moment. She finds a list with all of these different girls names on it, most of the names so exotic that she can't even pronounce them. She rolls through the list (which takes a long time, because it is a long list) and her name is on the list. At number 2237!I know one guy, living about a couple hours away by flight, from where I am living. Who has a score card.

Maybe it is him. But, last I know, he did get married to a pinay.

BionicMan
07-25-11, 21:38
Just when you think you've heard it all you run into a new Filipina and she tells you a story that blows your mind! .I can't see the rational of this guy having "imported" this girl back home, apart sort of leaving her "alone" both when he stayed there and when he went mongering in SEA.

At some point I was expecting the story to develop into "sex trade trafficking"

What the hell did he do with over 2000 girls. I mean, it takes 2. 5 years to f* each one at a rate of 2 girls per 24hrs! Accounting he did not seem over active when back home.

And all this what for? Collector?

Reminds me of those (really) perverted collecting thousands and thousands of porn pictures (to say the least) from the web into DVD's: what the hell do they do with all these pictures: keeps on downloading and collecting, probably never watching them!

Anyhow. Each one his own. Interesting story, tho'

Member #4643
07-26-11, 13:47
I am trying to decide where I should spend a week of mongering this fall. I like to have sex with non (or "semi") pros, which puts the Phils right at the top of my list, based on my last very short experience in Makati. Of course, non pros require time and effort, so I like to mix them in with pros, making a perfect vacation that typically leaves me exhausted and happy at the end.

But there are other places where meeting non pros is easy: the DR, for example. I have lots of experience there, and a non-pro can usually be found within a day or two of arrival (on my last trip, I arrived in Sto Domingo at 3 pm, fucked a girl I picked up at the beach in Boca Chica at 5 pm, picked up my girl from Tagged at 7 pm, and fucked her by 8 pm; I picked up a total non pro in a bar two nights later. In between the two non pros, I fucked by novia twice and 4 more P4P. Good exercise at my age!). I do OK with non-pros in Brazil as well (I even have two non pros I see in Rio, which is NOT easy for pickups). But, after countless trips to the DR and Brazil, I am ready for something new.

I read on this board that Indonesia is great, and Jakarta is now at the top of my list followed by a few days in Manila. But, before I actually pay for the air, I am curious if anyone knows of any place where non pro action is even easier. Peru? Ukraine? Love tours in Medellin? Macau? Prague?

Where is the easiest place in the world to find and conquer non-pros?

Trust me, I have read the f-ing board, and I am very open to suggestions.

FreebieFan
07-27-11, 10:42
KingWhat the hell did he do with over 2000 girls. I mean, it takes 2. 5 years to f* each one at a rate of 2 girls per 24hrs! Accounting he did not seem over active when back home.Gene Simmons claims to have had 4600!

No idea how he knows he has had this many or how he counted.

MadisonGuy
07-27-11, 20:45
I am trying to decide where I should spend a week of mongering this fall. I like to have sex with non (or "semi") pros, which puts the Phils right at the top of my list, based on my last very short experience in Makati. Of course, non pros require time and effort, so I like to mix them in with pros, making a perfect vacation that typically leaves me exhausted and happy at the end.

But there are other places where meeting non pros is easy: the DR, for example. I have lots of experience there, and a non-pro can usually be found within a day or two of arrival (on my last trip, I arrived in Sto Domingo at 3 pm, fucked a girl I picked up at the beach in Boca Chica at 5 pm, picked up my girl from Tagged at 7 pm, and fucked her by 8 pm; I picked up a total non pro in a bar two nights later. In between the two non pros, I fucked by novia twice and 4 more P4P. Good exercise at my age!). I do OK with non-pros in Brazil as well (I even have two non pros I see in Rio, which is NOT easy for pickups). But, after countless trips to the DR and Brazil, I am ready for something new.

I read on this board that Indonesia is great, and Jakarta is now at the top of my list followed by a few days in Manila. But, before I actually pay for the air, I am curious if anyone knows of any place where non pro action is even easier. Peru? Ukraine? Love tours in Medellin? Macau? Prague?

Where is the easiest place in the world to find and conquer non-pros?

Trust me, I have read the f-ing board, and I am very open to suggestions.I think it really depends on you, your looks, your languages spoke. I would think a catholic asian country like Philippines would be best for a blonde white guy. I certainly have not found better in my travels. Haven't done Ukraine, want to but I don't think those women are easily pursuaded they're use to jerks pushing them around. South America would be good if you know spanish, Philippines I think it easiest bet because everyone speaks english and the girls are really laid back there. Latin women you would have to chance your balls being cut off if they found you cheating.

MadisonGuy
07-27-11, 20:50
If you're curious she confronted him when he returned with all of the evidence. He denied it but it didn't matter. She moved out, kept her job and stayed in the country for several years. She recently returned to Manila and has setup several small businesses with relatives using all of the money she made overseas.Don't need to requote it all. I dated a girl with almost the opposite experience. To me much sicker. She put spyware on her husbands computer to see what he was doing and found that he was constantly looking at gay porn. She divorced him and stayed here. Personally I think a girl losing a guy to another guy is worse than to women. Kind of odd that the guy would get married if he had all those women, seems kind of stupid to me.

Lakeside
07-31-11, 17:40
[QUOTE=Forest; 1180616]I am trying to decide where I should spend a week of mongering this fall. I like to have sex with non (or "semi") pros, which puts the Phils right at the top of my list, based on my last very short experience in Makati. Of course, non pros require time and effort, so I like to mix them in with pros, making a perfect vacation that typically leaves me exhausted and happy at the end.

If there is one place I can recommend to you for pro and non-pro action it is the Philippines! Of course it depends what your preference is but if you like the LBFM you will truly enjoy the experience over there! Just start working on Tagged and DIA four weeks before arrival and you will be amazed what the yield on both categories will be! At the end the problem will be to keep a manageable schedule! Have fun and throw in a couple of good reports!

Gangles
08-10-11, 03:57
I got this message today on Cherry Blossoms from a woman in Cebu, about 30 yo.


Hello, TO YOU. JUST WANT TO TELL YOU THAT I LIKE YOU VERY MUCH BECAUSE I LIKE MANY TIMES TO HAVE SEX.Never met her, or message with her before.

Has anyone else got a similar message in the past few days?

G

D Cups
08-10-11, 14:31
Lots of scammers on CB so I dropped my membership with them.


I got this message today on Cherry Blossoms from a woman in Cebu, about 30 yo.

Never met her, or message with her before.

Has anyone else got a similar message in the past few days?

G

D Cups
08-10-11, 14:39
Never been to DR or East Europe (except Prague) or Africa but have been to Europe, Australia, SE and NW Asia, Carribean, South and Central America and have to agree that PI is the best place for the reasons Madison cited. I plan on retiring and raising a family there.


I think it really depends on you, your looks, your languages spoke. I would think a catholic asian country like Philippines would be best for a blonde white guy. I certainly have not found better in my travels. Haven't done Ukraine, want to but I don't think those women are easily pursuaded they're use to jerks pushing them around. South America would be good if you know spanish, Philippines I think it easiest bet because everyone speaks english and the girls are really laid back there. Latin women you would have to chance your balls being cut off if they found you cheating.