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Member #4387

11-29-12, 22:24

This paradise dose seem to be worth a visit. Not much info about this place on the board. Dose anyone of you guys know how is it finding a hot filipina for a more pleasant stay.

Both one night stands and longer term relationship would do it for me. And sure money is not an issue. Other suggestions also are welcome that have a supply of gold diggers. Maybe Cebu, Pawalan. Are better?I don't think you will have any trouble at all finding a holiday honey in the Phils. I would guess hitting some freelancejoints in Manila, Cebu etc and "shop" around with your wish will do the trick. I guess many girls in Phils have felxible "jobs" pleasuring us so if they take a sudden holiday no one gets hurt. I don't know how bargirls work in this matter but if you barfine enough days I guess not a problem.

Another option would be to sign up in some dating sites (I have no idea of your timeframe as this will take you some time to find someone you like and there are allways a possibility beeing stood up). But I guess you could be lucky as well. Happy journey with your "love"hehe

Tomux 22

11-29-12, 23:09

I don't think you will have any trouble at all finding a holiday honey in the Phils. I would guess hitting some freelancejoints in Manila, Cebu etc and "shop" around with your wish will do the trick. I guess many girls in Phils have felxible "jobs" pleasuring us so if they take a sudden holiday no one gets hurt. I don't know how bargirls work in this matter but if you barfine enough days I guess not a problem.

Another option would be to sign up in some dating sites (I have no idea of your timeframe as this will take you some time to find someone you like and there are allways a possibility beeing stood up). But I guess you could be lucky as well. Happy journey with your "love"heheI will go for 3 weeks. I guess playing it safe is never a wrong way to go. So staying in Manila first few days and finding my travel friend might be good idea.

Member #4351

11-29-12, 23:38

So staying in Manila first few days and finding my travel friend might be good idea.Don't forget to find out her "period" dates.

Ebauche

11-30-12, 01:35

Don't forget to find out her "period" dates.Ask when her period is and she'll likely get confused. Ask when her "menses" or "mens" (she might mispronounce) is instead.

Member #4387

11-30-12, 12:46

Ask when her period is and she'll likely get confused. Ask when her "menses" or "mens" (she might mispronounce) is instead.My GF back home she is half pinay but borned and raised in Norway. She teaches norwegian to foreign people entering Norway and amongst them a bunch of pinays coming to work as au-pairs as well. She told me that she also did have to teach some of the girls about their syclus in menstruation as some pinays get surprised every month when something red is showing from their pussy. I guess these things are not much spoken about in phillys.

GoodEnough

11-30-12, 14:30

My GF back home she is half pinay but borned and raised in Norway. She teaches norwegian to foreign people entering Norway and amongst them a bunch of pinays coming to work as au-pairs as well. She told me that she also did have to teach some of the girls about their syclus in menstruation as some pinays get surprised every month when something red is showing from their pussy. I guess these things are not much spoken about in phillys.Absolutely right. In fact, sex education is prohibited and there's a controversial bill on reproductive health being considered now. It's been watered down significantly because of the objections of the celibate men in skirts. Aka the catholic bishops who continue to have a stranglehold on this country. So for the most part, kids who attend public schools (who tend to be kids from poor families) are clueless about reproduction and sexuality. Evidently the men in black skirts don't give a damn if poor catholics keep churning out spates of poor catholics. Of course the rich and middle class pay no attention at all and limit their family sizes.

GE

X Man

11-30-12, 15:18

Yes, there are some naive people in this world. Mr. Skogis, are you one of them?

My GF back home she is half pinay but borned and raised in Norway. She teaches norwegian to foreign people entering Norway and amongst them a bunch of pinays coming to work as au-pairs as well. She told me that she also did have to teach some of the girls about their syclus in menstruation as some pinays get surprised every month when something red is showing from their pussy. I guess these things are not much spoken about in phillys.

Frenzy3

11-30-12, 16:47

Pete Benetar

11-30-12, 17:42

Really, every girl I know can tell me the week of the month their period will be, not the day but 1st week etc. What they do not know is when they are fertile, but I think most men would not know either, see imageAgree with your comments, though variability in ovum release a / w/a fairly long life of sperm in utero (up to FIVE days) actually makes the window of fertility a fair amount broader. The only practical advice for birth control is that the only time that is really safe without condom is when it's a full bloody mess. (graphic source: UofCal - Davis)

Tomux 22

11-30-12, 17:58

Don't forget to find out her "period" dates.Blood dose not bother me, thats where some extra towels can come handy.

Frenzy3

11-30-12, 18:28

Blood dose not bother me, thats where some extra towels can come handy.It the girls who will not sex, they think it is dirty, that they will get sick etc

Sky Ryder

12-01-12, 06:18

When I read the last half dozen or posts. It struck me as just a little comedic that on this, of all boards, we are discussing the menstrual cycle. Like I said it is important, but still made me laugh.

We must be doing something right. LOL

Member #4387

12-01-12, 07:50

Yes, there are some naive people in this world. Mr. Skogis, are you one of them?I believe so. Beeing naive comes in handy when executing my greaty hobby. Mongering.

Nvslim

12-01-12, 10:35

Ask when her period is and she'll likely get confused. Ask when her "menses" or "mens" (she might mispronounce) is instead.Back in the mid-1980s, in my youth, I took a really cute young girl out of a strip bar (Yeah, they used to get naked). Talking about naive, after my first cream pie, she felt the man cream running down her thigh, and said "Uh, white blood."

On a later trip, I bar fined her again and after a night of bar hopping, hit the sheets. She was almost a natural white tiger and I loved licking her smooth soft pussy. Got up to wash my face and it looked like some one had slit my throat, ear to ear. She had started her period and did not realize it. I got my red wings that night and the extra towels did come in handy. I was in sex prison on Okinawa (USA military) and was not going to let a little blood ruin my holiday.

Slim

Jambo

12-02-12, 15:51

The only time my carry-on has been weighed was in March on Air Asia coming from Phnom Penh to Bangkok.My carry-on and checked bags were weighed last Jan-Feb. In Manila, Davao, London and Frankfurt. I did get past the bag Nazi's in Hong Kong ok. (there are a couple of girls who stand outside security in the HK airport, and check the dimensions (not the weight) of suspect bags. They work for the airport as near as I can figure).

Keep in mind the weight allowance from the US is twice what Intl carriers allow for economy tickets. So a direct flight from LAX to Manila, you can bring lots of gifts, but don't expect to bring that on to Cebu etc without paying.

I am a photographer and use a max-size trolly bag, so it does get attention. I carry about 1kg in batteries in my coat!

Hairy Wonder

12-02-12, 20:42

My carry-on and checked bags were weighed last Jan-Feb. In Manila, Davao, London and Frankfurt. I did get past the bag Nazi's in Hong Kong ok. (there are a couple of girls who stand outside security in the HK airport, and check the dimensions (not the weight) of suspect bags. They work for the airport as near as I can figure).

Keep in mind the weight allowance from the US is twice what Intl carriers allow for economy tickets. So a direct flight from LAX to Manila, you can bring lots of gifts, but don't expect to bring that on to Cebu etc without paying.

I am a photographer and use a max-size trolly bag, so it does get attention. I carry about 1kg in batteries in my coat!Couldn't a person show that their flight originated in the US, and therefore allowed the higher weight limit? I know I have used that reasoning in US airports before when traveling from another country on business. It always worked for me. But I know the logic is not always the same in other countries.

Cbea20

12-03-12, 01:26

Cebu Pacific has an efficient cargo terminal in Manila. You can ship parcels much cheaper than paying overweight fees at the checkin counter. Go to cargo 2 hours before your flight; it will go on the same plane.

.Keep in mind the weight allowance from the US is twice what Intl carriers allow for economy tickets. So a direct flight from LAX to Manila, you can bring lots of gifts, but don't expect to bring that on to Cebu etc without paying.

Member #4698

12-03-12, 15:43

I have no love of the large international airlines. Can they design a smaller space for their coach seats? I don't think so, but once in a while they can come through and on those rare occasions I think it should be duly noted.

For late September, I had applied my 65, 000 miles for a free Delta coach roundtrip ticket from Fort Lauderdale to Manila. On the morning of the flight, I arrived at the airport in Ft. Lauderdale at 8:30am with 2 hours to spare before takeoff. I hand the representative my E ticket and wait to be processed, but the representative is taking a very long time to check me in so after a reasonable wait, I ask her if there is a problem and she replies 'YES, there is a problem! ' The Ft. Lauderdale flight to Detroit is going to be 5 hours late and so I will miss my connection to Manila. Shit! The worst thing you want to hear. But wait, she finds an empty seat on the Miami to Detroit flight that will just get me into Detroit with 45 minutes to spare. But the only available seat on the flight is 1st class and I have a little more than an hour to get to MIA to catch the flight. Boom! So she gives me the updated ticket and a voucher for limousine service from FLL to MIA. The limo is waiting for me curbside outside the terminal and off we go. Fortunately the ride down to Miami is smooth and it takes only around 30 minutes. Normally at 9:00am there is still rush hour traffic grid lock on the highway. Only after the MIA Delta check in is over, do I finally start to relax again. I still have 21 hours ahead of me until I arrive in Manila. I enjoyed my first class seat and breakfast. The MIA plane lands in Detroit and I hustle over to the gate of my connecting Manila flight with 20 minutes to boarding to spare. Whew!

I arrived in Manila around 10pm and take a taxi over to the Diamond Hotel. I was physically tired, but definitely not sleepy. I walked over to MBC, met a friendly Filipina, and my trip was under way. It felt good to be back in Asia. And I have to nothing but good things to say about Delta. They really came through for me this time.

I will only add, that on the return flight, they had scheduled my ticket through JFK with a 5 hour layover. That is Delta's way of showing you how much they appreciate your business and using Miles to purchase roundtrip international flights. After I arrived in JFK and went through customs, I went straight to the Delta counter and asked if there were seats available on an earlier flight to FLL. Sure enough they had plenty of seats on the next flight leaving in 45 minutes, but I had to pay $50 to make the change. What the fuck, the plane was 30% empty. But it was worth it to pay up in order to arrive back home 4 hours early.

A last note: to those who complain about Manila International, JFK is just as bad or worse because we have no excuse. What a mess. Compare JFK or MIA to Changi Airport. I think it is indicative of where the USA is heading.

Radical Guy

12-03-12, 21:07

Couldn't a person show that their flight originated in the US, and therefore allowed the higher weight limit? I know I have used that reasoning in US airports before when traveling from another country on business. It always worked for me. But I know the logic is not always the same in other countries.Are you kidding? I don't think a word for "logic" exists in the Philippines, nor the concept.

Fast Eddie 48

12-04-12, 00:13

Slippery

12-04-12, 02:08

Are you kidding? I don't think a word for "logic" exists in the Philippines, nor the concept.Nor honesty, at least 75% of the time when you are dealing with an individual one on one, and highly inclusive in that statement are business people.

Econo Tech

12-05-12, 02:20

Are you kidding? I don't think a word for "logic" exists in the Philippines, nor the concept.I would add understanding 'sarcasm' to that list LOL.

99% when you are pissed off and make a nasty comment, the reaction is totally opposite. Like the time you pick up a woman on rags and annoyed you tell her that she has completed your night out- the answer will be "I know you are a good man. God will reward you." etc. Etc.

Or the time I was asking if I am eligible for a gift, for a temporary travel insurance cover, the answer came back as "if your purchase exceeds 60$, and if you meet the terms and conditions, and subject to availability, you maybe given the gift." or something like that.

I replied "so you are telling me that I may or may not get it, so it is not worth it to buy the insurance or not, or rather, in simple words, most likely I would not be able to get the gift. So I should look for alternate and not even think of the incentive of the gift."

The answer?"dear sir, thank you for understanding, and we are very happy to continue to service your account. Please proceed to our purchase site to buy the insurance cover."

I give up.

El Greco

12-05-12, 11:26

Couldn't a person show that their flight originated in the US, and therefore allowed the higher weight limit? I know I have used that reasoning in US airports before when traveling from another country on business. It always worked for me. But I know the logic is not always the same in other countries.Most probably if all your flight legs are on the same ticket.

Member #4387

12-05-12, 13:23

A last note: to those who complain about Manila International, JFK is just as bad or worse because we have no excuse. What a mess. Compare JFK or MIA to Changi Airport. I think it is indicative of where the USA is heading.To Natty.

I don't think JFK is nearly as bad as NAIA I don't think any major airport is worst in the world, JFK is under remodeling so it is a mess but I agree Changi and HKIA is the best airport in Asia by far.

Fast Eddie 48[/QUOTE]I agree totaly that NAIA is bad bud if I think this is in a 3 world country and I am here to fuck I don't mind that much. JFK and not to mention CDG (Paris) are in indistrialised countries and are terrible (CDG by far worst and I have started to fly LCC into Orly to avoid CDG). And my business is not fucking when I go there.

Run Mann

12-09-12, 06:57

Manny Pacquiao is knocked out and I mean knocked out HARD. Wow!

Soapy Smith

12-09-12, 22:38

Manny Pacquiao is knocked out and I mean knocked out HARD. Wow!A Congressman under attack from constituents because of his poor attendance record in Congress, a rock singer with questionable talent, and a boxer getting a little long in the tooth. When you have too much going on it gets hard to know where the next punch is coming from.

Econo Tech

12-10-12, 03:20

A Congressman under attack from constituents because of his poor attendance record in Congress, a rock singer with questionable talent, and a boxer getting a little long in the tooth. When you have too much going on it gets hard to know where the next punch is coming from.Well, look at the bright side. He is diversified LOL.

So if his boxing goes south, he can always get residual income from his singing.

Now, you don't in PH do you? You didn't know that 9 out of 10 popularities in PH take up singing, including and not restricted to Estrada (ya, he was an actor.) Imelda, JPE. And more. Whether they make money or not is different.

And when PacMan became popular, guess what his mother said as her dream? Become a Singapore, and a singer she did become. Dressed in Skimpy outfits, when she was in Singapore. Man, lucky I didn't pay to see the old Dame Croon out Loud. But the Filipino community was super-thrilled. And were weeping at her songs.

Stroker Ace88

12-11-12, 16:51

[SNIP]It occurs to me that the dynastic structures in the Philippines create a gene pool of very attractive women in social circles that nobody in this forum will ever get to know as anything more than acquaintances.There are more than a few senior members here who mingle in higher Philippine social circles, and have contacts that extend into the realm of politics, entertainment and philippine conglomerate businesses. We just choose not to brag about it on a mongering website for obvious reasons. As a foreigner (IE outsider) getting involved with a hi-so woman is the best way to get into trouble, deported or MIA. Stay away from the hi-so women and date slightly down the food chain. That will ensure you don't step on any toes and fly under the radar.

Up to you.

Member #4491

12-11-12, 17:34

Stay away from the hi-so women and date slightly down the food chain. That will ensure you don't step on any toes and fly under the radar.I agree, but some of them are relaxed. I had two girl from families that have streets and buildings named after them, and I am still 100% cool with these girls. But then again I never treat any of the girls like shit really. One bisexual guy from another major clan wanted to "try something big" but I declined politely."Original families" they sometimes call themselves in the south where I hangout. That basically means that they kicked the shit out of the ones that where even more original and now owns a lot of land and property that they can collect rent from and do nothing of value but to compare handbags and cars.

It is all about common sense, timing and respect, and you will be fine to fuck also these females. If you can or bother to catch them that is, because the game of qualifying will be up a few notches for sure, and a pussy is still a pussy at the end of the day.

B.

Soapy Smith

12-11-12, 20:52

As a foreigner (IE outsider) getting involved with a hi-so woman is the best way to get into trouble, deported or MIA. Stay away from the hi-so women and date slightly down the food chain. That will ensure you don't step on any toes and fly under the radar. Up to you.You're adding two and two and getting five. I was a guest at this family's home, nothing more. Don't people do that anymore? But if others interpret this as Stroker did, and somebody can tell me how to remove it after it's too late to edit, I will gladly do so. Feel free to pm me.

Red Kilt

12-12-12, 03:11

You're adding two and two and getting five. I was a guest at this family's home, nothing more. Don't people do that anymore? But if others interpret this as Stroker did, and somebody can tell me how to remove it after it's too late to edit, I will gladly do so. Feel free to pm me.I think you missed the comments that a few of us posted here a month or so ago Skip about NOT using names of prominent Filipino personalities in posts, either to "name-drop" and so boost your own cred, or to criticize their actions.

It will probably not put you in any "danger" but it just draws undue attention to this board. We already know that comments on ISG are monitored by "outside sources", and some of these VIPs are VERY sensitive about anything negative said about them and they have the means to respond.

Not flaming you; just saying as a reminder because you spend a lot of time here too.

Econo Tech

12-12-12, 04:36

It will probably not put you in any "danger" but it just draws undue attention to this board. We already know that comments on ISG are monitored by "outside sources", and some of these VIPs are VERY sensitive about anything negative said about them and they have the means to respond.

Not flaming you; just saying as a reminder because you spend a lot of time here too.Gee, for a moment I was wondering if somebody's going to do a Filipino threat "I will make you disappear."

LOL.

Of course, some people do go MIA, but not the extent like the majority go about boasting.

And the higher your connection is, the safer you are (not safe, just safer.)

Of course, the lower in the food chain. The people you are talking to are. The chance of a hit is higher, and that is my experience. They just don't care. Just kill the bastard is their style. Even for stuff like hurting the pinoy pride. Regardless it was a joke, sarcasm, or the statement is meant to be real and reflect of the dumbness of the person involved.

Hence my aversion to keep my senses very sharp when meeting those of lower level, and refusing to get drawn into any discussion, whether it is about Flor Contemplacion or about the RH bill, as a couple of wrong words can trigger a totally irrationally wrong response. Which doesn't happen with the people higher up in the food chain, and the latter are pretty open about the state of affairs, and don't mind doing some soul searching with a foreigner.

Yes, I do have some connection, but I am pretty pretty pretty careful to even mention them, even to natives,

Like an acquaintance who met me last week, whose cousin is in a govt agency and was boasting loudly about his power up the ladder. I didn't even mention to him that my good friend's first cousin is further, further up the ladder in the same organisation. And was in a position to even kick this fellow out.

All that. Due to my years of experience figuring out Filipinos.

Preserve silence, if you want to save your skin.

AfAsia

12-12-12, 16:52

Enjoy LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xxVg2GiQPv0&feature=fvwp

Wolvenvacht

12-12-12, 22:28

Enjoy LOL:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=xxVg2GiQPv0&feature=fvwpI would not want his sister to do a BJ on me:

Towelboy2010

12-22-12, 02:54

Stroker Ace88

12-22-12, 07:43

I am planning to take a small plane from Florida and island hop the Bahamas for 7. 10 days. ISG reports that P4P is virtually non-existent in the Bahamas and I got this idea.

I know it is virtually impossible to bring a girl to America for a vacation.

Is it possible to have her fly to the Bahamas and spend a week in the Caribbean?

According to the Bahamas website: To enter The Bahamas, citizens from countries other than the USA and Canada are required to present a valid passport and some countries are also required to have a Bahamas visa. Philippine citizens are required to have a visa. The visa application is simple and straightforward.

Cost for the visa is $55. 00.

Thanks for any info or help.

BobIs this your wife, GF, fiance nurse in Singapore, Cherry Blossom GF or other fiance? I took a look at your post history and at one point or other you have informed the forum that you were married or were serious to marry all of them. You either really get around or have never been off the sofa.

At one point you claimed to have visited AC 4 times then later on it was 3 times. Whatever. Another time you were ready to send some chatmate alot of cash for a "visa" so she could come be with you, that is before someone talked some sense into you and instructed you to tell your chatmate to provide a copy of her passport ect ect. I wonder what kind of situation some filipina chatmate has talked you into this time?

You seem focused on the $55bucks, but what about the $2000+USD in airfare you will have to dish out? 2k for 7-10 days is ALOT to spend on filipina pussy, but whatever it's your money.

You forget one problem. No direct Manila- Nassau flights. She will have to connect somewhere. Most likely through Mexico or Latin America to avoid extra headaches connecting through USA and that will cost you more cash and headaches.

She also needs to attend a one day overseas worker seminar and get the sticker-seal in her passport. No sticker no departure and the centers are closed until January. The seminar includes a one-on-one interview and once she tells them she is going to go to the Bahamas for 10 days with some USA gent she met on the internet alarm bells will go off and she might not be allowed to leave. She also has to have a valid reason to be leaving Asia like OFW or student ect. She also has to pay her travel tax in Manila before departure, and have enough cash on her to prove up her story. That's alot of crap to go through.

If you have your heart set on a P4P travel companion this Christmas I would suggest you go to a closer pool of P4P talent like the DR or CR and find one. Once again it's up to you.

Wicked Roger

12-22-12, 11:47

She also needs to attend a one day overseas worker seminar and get the sticker-seal in her passport. No sticker no departure and the centers are closed until January. The seminar includes a one-on-one interview .Tend to agree with SA except the above, take my lady away a lot and she has never had the above which IMHO is for those genuinely leaving PI for work. Is a rip off and a waste of time according to the many who have been forced to attend it. We have been all over Asia (maybe this is why?) but as she has a return ticket and is a vacation why ask.

Similar blogs elsewhere show the confusion on this.

Slippery

12-22-12, 12:38

For all that hassle and expense, I'd write both her and the trip off and head down to DR by myself and do what I used to do when I used to have my home there.

Red Kilt

12-22-12, 14:31

Stroker Ace88

12-22-12, 17:49

Tend to agree with SA except the above, take my lady away a lot and she has never had the above which IMHO is for those genuinely leaving PI for work. Is a rip off and a waste of time according to the many who have been forced to attend it. We have been all over Asia (maybe this is why?) but as she has a return ticket and is a vacation why ask.

Similar blogs elsewhere show the confusion on this.WR,

Yes as RK mentioned, you travel with your lady-friend and you travel within Asia for pleasure (big grin) aka tourist visa. Two things that make a CFO sticker not necessary in your case because tourist travel by filipinos within SE Asia for the most part do not require a CFO sticker (travel to mainland China for pure filipinos require CFO and advance Chinese visa acceptance).

Travelling outside the Philippines for work of any kind (IE- documented OFW contract) will require the CFO sticker. Also the guy plans to "fly her in" so she will be travelling alone on a transcontinental flight on a tourist visa to a destination outside Asia, this requires a CFO sticker for the average Filipino. I know a few hi-so filipinos (lawyers, doctors, ect) who do not bother to get the CFO sticker and are still allowed to travel. In the case of one lawyer he just made a call and the CFO instructor visited his office to stamp his passport. No seminar needed, just php.

IMO I think the CFO course and sticker program is a positive thing. Yes it can be looked upon as just another money grab, but it's main purpose is to inform filipinos on their rights and the laws outside of the Philippines. A very high percentage of OFW workers have never left there province, let alone the country. How will they react to western ways, how will they cope when forced to work for less pay than they were promised? At the very least it provides the workers with a set of numbers and OFW offices abroad to help them in an emergency or when the 'job' they were hired to do turns sour. Most of that info might go over their head but at least they offer it.

During the one-day seminar the instructors will talk about problems that happened to previous OFW's. That's the part that most locals will remember and focus on, because if a story was told to them directly by a person in authority then it must be true. The benefits out weigh the negatives.

Wicked Roger

12-23-12, 01:49

WR,

IMO I think the CFO course and sticker program is a positive thing. Yes it can be looked upon as just another money grab, but it's main purpose is to inform filipinos on their rights and the laws outside of the Philippines. A very high percentage of OFW workers have never left there province, let alone the country. How will they react to western ways, how will they cope when forced to work for less pay than they were promised? At the very least it provides the workers with a set of numbers and OFW offices abroad to help them in an emergency or when the 'job' they were hired to do turns sour. Most of that info might go over their head but at least they offer it.

During the one-day seminar the instructors will talk about problems that happened to previous OFW's. That's the part that most locals will remember and focus on, because if a story was told to them directly by a person in authority then it must be true. The benefits out weigh the negatives.
The difference in all this WR is that your lady travels WITH YOU.

My friend in BOI said that there are lots and lots of predators on the internet luring single girls abroad on the promise of jobs that turn out to be trafficking scams and the BOI is now very gun shy about letting women go unless they have a good proven reason and a fistful of cash to show they can support themselves if things go belly up.Agreed. I knew there had to be another reason as it was not just my amenable way, friendly smile and huge frame that did it LOL. Even when I am with her she is questioned as if she will be naughty with this amenable innocent white guy! As if.

Last time I intervened the questioning and pointed out that all the details being asked were on the screen in front of her so why look through the passport and mutter.

Any OFW has to attend the seminars but I still think is a waste although I understand the reasons-your example of the lawyer signifies for me the ridiculous way this is administered as even so called clever lawyers have found themselves in grief in foriegn countries. If they really listened to what was said, many would not find themselves in a bad way in a foreign country and too 'ashamed' to tell their families back home as they would not go. Just visit POLO in Abu Dhabi and see the number of runaways who are camped there waiting to leave to realise that cash considerations / family pressure outweighs all the risks etc that these seminars claim to tlak about

Mr Enternational

12-23-12, 03:40

Stroker Ace88

12-23-12, 04:58

Come on man. You have posted this same thing in the Brazil thread, the Colombia thread, and who knows how many other threads. Is it that crucial? If you are ballin like that it should be easy to find any chick where you live that would be glad to make the trip with you and give you all the pussy you want.

Let's just say if you were to get someone from Asia to go to the Bahamas with you then more than likely they will have to step on US or Mexican soil so they would need some kind of transit visa for those countries as well.Wow, that is LOL news! With these recent developments taken into account, it seems towelboy is looking more for a throw-away drug mule and he could care less about pussy. Towelboy I know you're reading this LOL so why not use your local Craigs List to find a woman who will be your Bahama beach toy. Much easier and you can meet and screen the women in advance and it's totally free. Perfect for your champagne taste on a budweiser budget.

You want to really laugh, back in 2011 towelboy posted that he wanted to get together for his bachelor party at MBC with any ISG guys. It's cool to meet other ISG guys but prehaps towelboy was looking for someone to buy him drinks and pay for his pussy. Tisk tisk what happened that time?

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2237-Travel-Announcements-Only-&p=1134973#post1134973

Stroker Ace88

12-23-12, 05:15

Agreed. I knew there had to be another reason as it was not just my amenable way, friendly smile and huge frame that did it LOL. Even when I am with her she is questioned as if she will be naughty with this amenable innocent white guy! As if. [SNIP]

WR,

If it wasn't for the fact she had on a skin-tight dress, no knickers, a little rexona bottle in a very naughty place and a wireless vibe in her money maker, was a wee bit of a tip off that you have a very naughty mind. You might have just blown your cover when you asked the female security guard to push the third button on the remote over and over.

They wanted to keep talking to her to see what would fall on the floor first. <<<BIG GRIN SMILEY>>>...

Happy Holidays.

Red Kilt

12-25-12, 06:59

Wicked Roger

12-25-12, 17:58

WR,

If it wasn't for the fact she had on a skin-tight dress, no knickers, a little rexona bottle in a very naughty place and a wireless vibe in her money maker, was a wee bit of a tip off that you have a very naughty mind. You might have just blown your cover when you asked the female security guard to push the third button on the remote over and over.

They wanted to keep talking to her to see what would fall on the floor first. <<<BIG GRIN SMILEY .

Happy Holidays.LOL.

The only item you missed is her bra with holes to expose her nipples through the thin material, so yummy and trust me she has done this but not at immigration yet! Nothing falls out as it is ever so tight there. Another amazing fact about many pinays!

Had a vibe egg inserted in another cutie and asked the waitress to play with the remote. Lovely experience and the pinay watress finally twigged and was interested.

Am a simple educator who as yet is not recognised by the Philipines education department LOL

Econo Tech

12-26-12, 02:17

Does anyone have a theory (or even an explanation) for the weird pinoy custom of inserting the letter "h" into so many words.

Names on DIA such as "Lovemhe" and "youaremhine"

They give their names as Jhen, Jho, Jhoanne, Wheng, Lhiza, etc etc.

Even teachers pronounce "Superintendents" as "Shhuperintendents".

It's a bit irritating. I usually ignore it and spell their name without the "h" and they never say anything. Seems to be an affectation.Something to do with the Spanish Influence.

Like the place in Singapore, Mutiara. None of the pinays can read is as such, all end up getting lost, when I invite them over. As they tell the taxi driver MUCHIARA. Oh why can't it be MUTIARA. As written?

X Man

12-26-12, 04:12

Is this a spelling question? I do notice a glottal stop after "O" when they say "OK". I haven't really give much thought to the language, but since I spend so much time in the Philipines, maybe I should start learning more. Of course most of us already know that many Filipinos cannot pronounce the "f", which is always evident when they say,"puck you, go back to your country." LOL.

Does anyone have a theory (or even an explanation) for the weird pinoy custom of inserting the letter "h" into so many words.

Names on DIA such as "Lovemhe" and "youaremhine"

They give their names as Jhen, Jho, Jhoanne, Wheng, Lhiza, etc etc.

Even teachers pronounce "Superintendents" as "Shhuperintendents".

It's a bit irritating. I usually ignore it and spell their name without the "h" and they never say anything. Seems to be an affectation.

Slippery

12-26-12, 04:38

is this a spelling question? i do notice a glottal stop after "o" when they say "ok". i haven't really give much thought to the language, but since i spend so much time in the philipines, maybe i should start learning more. of course most of us already know that many filipinos cannot pronounce the "f", which is always evident when they say,"puck you, go back to your country." lol.pucking poreigner piece of [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116)!

Soapy Smith

12-26-12, 06:27

Does anyone have a theory (or even an explanation) for the weird pinoy custom of inserting the letter "h" into so many words.My favorite is et chetera (for et cetera). There's probably some quirky historical explanation. I presume English was first pushed on most Pinoys when Americans started introducing religious-affiliated (mostly protestant) elementary schools in the Phils in the early 20th Century. The Spanish, in contrast, had offered up education (through Catholic venues) to a very limited number of Filipinos-essentially those that became the family dynasties. So perhaps the "h" emphasis was introduced as an affectation by some snobbish American protestant women, who never bothered to clarify that it was an affectation. Obviously a guess on my part.

I suspect there's no point asking Filipinos, even the well-educated ones. It's probably so tacitly embedded that they have no recall about it, or it was introduced long before any of them were born. It's like the "fall in line" signs in public buildings, pharmacies, and so on. I've asked many Filipinos where that expression came from, but nobody remembers. When I suggest that it may have been introduced by GIs handing out relief supplies in the aftermath of WWII (the military is the only other place I've heard it) , they agree that it's a plausible explanation. So the "h" thing probably began as a similar idiosyncrasy.

Soapy Smith

12-26-12, 06:50

I do notice a glottal stop after "O" when they say "OK".Maybe they think there's an implied "yes" in okay, so that it needs the same glottal stop as in opo or oho in Tagalog.

Cunning Stunt

12-26-12, 08:05

It's like the "fall in line" signs in public buildings, pharmacies, and so on.I had always assumed that this was an Americanism for the favourite hobby of the British i.e queuing. We lead the world in forming an orderly line. It does sound, however, as if it had its origins in the military.

Other quaint and idiosyncratic Filipino ways of contorting the Queens English include.

My least favourite which has me grinding my teeth is open and shut the light. I've spent twenty odd years trying to teach 'her indoors' and she still insists on telling me to shut the light.

Prijidaire. WTF, it took me a little while to work out this was a fridge. Alternatively the term 'ref' had me constantly looking around for a man in black with a whistle in his mouth.

Go Ahead for leave first. Even I say this now.

And I have never felt comfortable in one of their Comfort Rooms (CRs). When I first came here and saw that term, I was expecting a plush room with throw cushions on the floor and softly piped musak. Instead I found a dirty, grotty, squalid room that I could barely squeeze into with bijou [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) stains, seatless toilet and a basin hanging off the wall. What is comfortable about that? Could it have anything to do with what the Japs in WW2 called those they forced into prostitution to service the soldiers?

Red Kilt

12-26-12, 08:17

. So perhaps the "h" emphasis was introduced as an affectation by some snobbish American protestant women, who never bothered to clarify that it was an affectation. Obviously a guess on my part.

<SNIP

I suspect there's no point asking Filipinos, even the well-educated ones. It's probably so tacitly embedded that they have no recall about it, or it was introduced long before any of them were born.Your guess is as good as (or maybe better) than mine Skip.

I have asked numerous women why (or should that be "wy") they insert the "h" and, as expected, they have no idea. It just seems like a good thing to do.

The most recent "Lhiza" has Liza Jane in her passport; a recently met Jhoanne is, as expected, named Joanne in her phassphort (lol).

So the use of the random "h" is very much an affectation with, I suspect, no more sensible explanation other than "I saw someone use it once and I liked it".

MrHombre

12-26-12, 08:49

I had always assumed that this was an Americanism for the favourite hobby of the British I. E queuing. We lead the world in forming an orderly line. It does sound, however, as if it had its origins in the military.

Other quaint and idiosyncratic Filipino ways of contorting the Queens English include.

My least favourite which has me grinding my teeth is open and shut the light. I've spent twenty odd years trying to teach 'her indoors' and she still insists on telling me to shut the light.

Prijidaire. WTF, it took me a little while to work out this was a fridge. Alternatively the term 'ref' had me constantly looking around for a man in black with a whistle in his mouth.

Go Ahead for leave first. Even I say this now.

And I have never felt comfortable in one of their Comfort Rooms (CRs). When I first came here and saw that term, I was expecting a plush room with throw cushions on the floor and softly piped musak. Instead I found a dirty, grotty, squalid room that I could barely squeeze into with bijou [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) stains, seatless toilet and a basin hanging off the wall. What is comfortable about that? Could it have anything to do with what the Japs in WW2 called those they forced into prostitution to service the soldiers?And let's not forget to tell the newbies to bring their own toilet paper, because you will NOT find any paper in a stall in the Philippines.

Tally Wacker

12-26-12, 08:55

it still throws me off when someone answers me with "awhile" or "in a while" meaning wait a minute.

oh and the only thing worst than the cr you described skip is having a guy walk up behind you when your peeing and attempt to rub your shoulders and then stand at the sink to hand you a paper towel. shit he might as well shake your dick a few times too.

i had always assumed that this was an americanism for the favourite hobby of the british i. e queuing. we lead the world in forming an orderly line. it does sound, however, as if it had its origins in the military.

other quaint and idiosyncratic filipino ways of contorting the queens english include.

my least favourite which has me grinding my teeth is open and shut the light. i've spent twenty odd years trying to teach 'her indoors' and she still insists on telling me to shut the light.

prijidaire. wtf, it took me a little while to work out this was a fridge. alternatively the term 'ref' had me constantly looking around for a man in black with a whistle in his mouth.

go ahead for leave first. even i say this now.

and i have never felt comfortable in one of their comfort rooms (crs). when i first came here and saw that term, i was expecting a plush room with throw cushions on the floor and softly piped musak. instead i found a dirty, grotty, squalid room that i could barely squeeze into with bijou [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) stains, seatless toilet and a basin hanging off the wall. what is comfortable about that? could it have anything to do with what the japs in ww2 called those they forced into prostitution to service the soldiers?

Red Kilt

12-26-12, 09:02

And let's not forget to tell the newbies to bring their own toilet paper, because you will NOT find any paper in a stall in the Philippines.Most of the bigger malls are now using the monster paper roll that is locked to prevent pilfering. Similar to the ones that I saw in most toilets in Australia on my trip back there recently.

If there isn't one in the stall, there may be one beside the sink where you must guess how many metres of paper you will need before you return to your stall for the dump.

Soapy Smith

12-27-12, 01:16

Other quaint and idiosyncratic Filipino ways of contorting the Queens English include.

And I have never felt comfortable in one of their Comfort Rooms (CRs).

Could it have anything to do with what the Japs in WW2 called those they forced into prostitution to service the soldiers?Or how about whether event xyz will "push through," meaning, is it actually going to happen despite whatever delays or setbacks stand in the way?

Obviously the comfort stations were not very comfortable for the women. "Three inches" may have prevailed, but the event probably rarely lasted three minutes and never offered up three pesos, let alone 3000. The short duration of the event was probably little consolation, since it only meant the next "customer" arrived that much quicker. One Burmese woman reported doing up to 60 Japanese men in one day. Interestingly, the Japanese have never apologized and continue to insist the women were not coerced into service. This does seem to be a parallel use of the word comfort in CR.

Soapy Smith

12-27-12, 01:23

Most of the bigger malls are now using the monster paper roll that is locked to prevent pilfering.And the Ayala chain (and maybe others) has pay toilets in many of its malls. These, of course, have TP. What a neat event it would be to round up a bunch of young radical Filipinos to stage a "[CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in" at the pay station entrance to one of the CRs.

Cunning Stunt

12-27-12, 06:47

Interestingly, the Japanese have never apologized and continue to insist the women were not coerced into service.For a purely 'voluntary' service, the comfort girls sure had a high mortality rate. I read somewhere that 3 out of 4 died due to disease, malnutrition and ill treatment. I'm sure that these figures also included a inordinately high suicide rate. It is a national disgrace that the Japanese have never formally admitted and apologised for their vile treatment of women during the war which included a number of Dutch girls captured in what is now Indonesia and forced to service 20-30 Japanese soldiers a day. An unknown number of Filipinas were also kidnapped from their villages and press ganged into whoring for the Japs. I think that, several years ago, the survivors were offered a derisory sum of a few thousand dollars in compensation by the Japanese Government. I imagine that most of them accepted.

Ekspat

12-27-12, 09:45

Was clicking through my channels yesterday morning and saw an interesting documentation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MRUIJx-02lI

So be careful with the MILFs, hehe.

WestCoast1

12-27-12, 14:56

for a purely 'voluntary' service, the comfort girls sure had a high mortality rate. i read somewhere that 3 out of 4 died due to disease, malnutrition and ill treatment. i'm sure that these figures also included a inordinately high suicide rate. it is a national disgrace that the japanese have never formally admitted and apologised for their vile treatment of women during the war which included a number of dutch girls captured in what is now indonesia and forced to service 20-30 japanese soldiers a day. an unknown number of filipinas were also kidnapped from their villages and press ganged into whoring for the japs. i think that, several years ago, the survivors were offered a derisory sum of a few thousand dollars in compensation by the japanese government. i imagine that most of them accepted.the japanese army was the nastiest marching army before or since. for a primer, try iris chang's "the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of nanking." the japanese army committed these kinds of attrocities in hundreds of cities across asia, as far south as indonesia. they've never apologized for much of anything.

Fast Eddie 48

12-27-12, 22:46

Naked Gunz

12-29-12, 12:11

Well just walked through Mall of Asia. I often wondered about which is more desireable, Thai or Filipina.

As the leading providers of sex in Asia, which of the two is better. I'm sure it's a matter of personal preferance,

But having walked through this huge mall, I still felt like I"m in a Wal-Mart.

I have just walked past hundreds of women and I didn't feel particularly attracted to ANY of them?

It seems to me that these women (in the capitol city of the country) have NO sense of style or individual.

Personality. It is a cookie cutter mindset passed on mother to daughter.

Endless numbers of women with straight hair, in old jeans and sandals, no makeup, (welcome to the 3rd world).

I have to say I did not feel quite this way in MBK in BKK.

But things are quite the opposite in bed. Pinays are very sexy naked, and that they speak English and connect.

With you on a personal level is phuking outstanding. They are very sweet naturally, and just want a good man.

Thai women for me have been pretty mechanical in bed and don't have any passion.

In looks I would say Thai, but who cares about the box on Christmas. I will show my friends the Thai girls pic,

But enjoy personally the Filipina in bed. Just my. 02 cent.

WestCoast1

12-29-12, 14:12

Stroker Ace88

12-29-12, 20:55

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MrHombre

12-30-12, 05:32

the japanese army was the nastiest marching army before or since. for a primer, try iris chang's "the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of nanking." the japanese army committed these kinds of attrocities in hundreds of cities across asia, as far south as indonesia. they've never apologized for much of anything.i read a story a while ago that quoted a member of the japanese army in china during wwii. he said that the standard procedure with every new town or village was to kill all of the men and boys in the town, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the women they wanted to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and kill the women after the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). then collect all the food and head for the next battle or town. they had no supply lines so depended on taking the food they found wherever they went. of course, with the killing, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and murder too. absolutely pitiful and pitiless.

Slippery

12-30-12, 08:21

i read a story a while ago that quoted a member of the japanese army in china during wwii. he said that the standard procedure with every new town or village was to kill all of the men and boys in the town, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) the women they wanted to [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and kill the women after the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). then collect all the food and head for the next battle or town. they had no supply lines so depended on taking the food they found wherever they went. of course, with the killing, [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and murder too. absolutely pitiful and pitiless.yes, and now many filipinos don't like americans. my father had nightmares until the day he died of fighting in the philippines during wwii. thankless, begging, cheating, money hungry bastards. but the girls are ok.

Hutsori

12-30-12, 09:42

interestingly, the japanese have never apologized and continue to insist the women were not coerced into service.really?

wikipedia isn't the most authoritative source, but a quick read turns this up:

in 1965, the japanese government awarded $364 million to the korean government for all war damages, including the injury done to comfort women. in 1994, the japanese government set up the asian women's fund to distribute additional compensation to south korea, the philippines, taiwan, the netherlands, and indonesia. each survivor was provided with a signed apology from the then prime minister tomiichi murayama, stating "as prime minister of japan, i thus extend anew my most sincere apologies and remorse to all the women who underwent immeasurable and painful experiences and suffered incurable physical and psychological wounds as comfort women."the fund was dissolved on march 31, 2007.

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on january 14, 1992, japanese chief government spokesman koichi kato issued an official apology saying "we cannot deny that the former japanese army played a role" in abducting and detaining the "comfort girls," and "we would like to express our apologies and contrition". three days later on january 17, 1992 at a dinner given by south korean president roh tae woo, the japanese prime minister kiichi miyazawa told his host: " we japanese should first and foremost recall the truth of that tragic period when japanese actions inflicted suffering and sorrow upon your people. we should never forget our feelings of remorse over this. as prime minister of japan, i would like to declare anew my remorse at these deeds and tender my apology to the people of the republic of korea." and apologized again the following day in a speech before south korea's national assembly.i don't have a dog in this fight, but i do have an interest in getting the facts before i start using or believing absolutes such as "never". up to you to decide whether the apology and compensation was sufficient.

was the japanese imperial military the most horrific or nastiest one in world history, as someone else has written? i'm pretty sure genghis khan's mongol horde tops japan's. here's a quote: “man's greatest joy is to slay his enemy, plunder his riches, ride his steeds, see the tears of his loved ones and embrace his women.” i recently saw a documentary on discovery or natgeo that stated 1 in 200 of the world's male population is a direct descendent of genghis khan. in asia it's 8% of all males.

FreebieFan

12-30-12, 10:14

Most of the bigger malls are now using the monster paper roll that is locked to prevent pilfering. Similar to the ones that I saw in most toilets in Australia on my trip back there recently.

If there isn't one in the stall, there may be one beside the sink where you must guess how many metres of paper you will need before you return to your stall for the dump.I may have been gone a few months from ISG Philippines, but hwo did the meandering and wordsmithing that we all employ, get us onto the subject of toilet paper? In my many years of ISG Phils, I have of course seen many subjects raised, but toilet paper? Thats a new one. See you in Jan!

WestCoast1

12-30-12, 13:35

Soapy Smith

12-30-12, 16:55

Fact replaces everything else.Indeed. Absolutes such as "never" or "always" are invariably difficult to defend, and sometimes flat wrong--such as when the author conflates comfort station apologies with apologies over other WWII issues. The situation has unfortunately raised its ugly head again recently. Korea in particular has questioned the sincerity of Japan's apology and compensation.

See, for example: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/oct/18/forced-prostitution-wartime-japan-korea

"grievances came to the fore again recently when South Korea's president, Lee Myung-bak, made a politically charged trip to Dokdo – a pair of remote, rocky islands also claimed by Japan, where they are known as Takeshima. The visit was not just intended to demonstrate his country's de facto control over the territory. Lee linked his visit to Tokyo's failure to apologise for the use of sex slaves, and challenged Japan's emperor, Akihito, to issue a mea culpa on the country's behalf."

"in 1993 Yohei Kono, the-then chief cabinet secretary, acknowledged and apologised for the first time for Japan's use of sex slaves during the second world war. Japan refused to directly compensate the women, saying all claims were settled by postwar peace treaties. In 1995 it set up the privately run Asian women's fund, which drew on donations, but many women rejected any redress unless it came directly from the Japanese state. The fund was disbanded in 2007."

There are other current rumblings that "Japan's new (and former) prime minister, Shinzo Abe, and his conservative government may revise Japan's 1993 apology for forcing thousands of women to be sex slaves in the service of Japanese soldiers during World War II."

See: http://rendezvous.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/12/27/will-japan-unapologize-for-comfort-women/

Mongerman69

12-30-12, 17:07

Soapy Smith

12-30-12, 17:17

hwo did the meandering and wordsmithing that we all employ, get us onto the subject of toilet paper? In my many years of ISG Phils, I have of course seen many subjects raised, but toilet paper? Thats a new one.I think I recall a post or two in the past recommending newbies to plan for carrying TP in the Phils, given that it's often not available in CRs in malls, bars, and eateries.

To the extent that ISG can offer information for newbies, there is a long list of "general advice" issues that sometimes percolate to the surface of this thread and others. They include: CRs and TP, what not to eat, where to eat and where not to eat, cell phone and internet issues, how to deal with taxi drivers, tipping in business establishments, getting medicine over the counter at pharmacies, how and where to carry (or safeguard) money and valuables, dealing with the various touts, hawkers, beggars, and overly-friendly Filipino strangers, parts of the city to avoid, dealing with mass transportation, travel around the country, how to dress, a few basics of Tagalog or Cebuano, entertainment venues, and so on. I'm guilty of causing some meanders, but in the end there's a lot of useful information in the forum for newbies willing to RTFF. And as M69 shows, sometimes there is still not enough on some topics.

Soapy Smith

12-30-12, 17:43

Just wondering about getting around the country, and the safest, most economical ways to do so. Advice on getting between islands, things to watch for, scams, or even places to avoid during my month long trip. Just looking for general advice from the vets.Some general advice:

If you buy well in advance and plan to travel very light, it's worth shopping Cebu Pacific, Philippine Air and others for economical airfares between various destinations. Read the fine print on the bargain prices.

Buses and ferries are the most practical modes of travel between some destinations, but both can eat up a lot of time from a short stay in the Phils. Air conditioned buses have reasonably comfortable seats but may get very crowded. Non-air conditioned buses, in addition to getting very hot, often have hard seats. Route information and station locations can often be found online.

Unfortunately, the best travel between particular destinations is often particularistic, and ISGers are unlikely to lay out the various details when you ask such a general question. Lonely Planet and other similar travel guides, as long as you get a current guide, are usually pretty good on travel information and touristy sites. They make snide remarks about monger activities, so just ignore these and use them for what they do well.

Stroker Ace88

12-30-12, 19:04

Just wondering about getting around the country, and the safest, most economical ways to do so. Advice on getting between islands, things to watch for, scams, or even places to avoid during my month long trip. Just looking for general advice from the vets.You mentioned month long trip. If you will be entering the Philippines without a visa you will be issued a free tourist visa good for 21 days not including your arrival day. Please note that you will need a visa extension if you will stay longer than 21 days. You can visit any BI office to get the extension. Cost 3030php. Wear long pants, closed toe shoes and a shirt with a collar, like a golf shirt. Although a clean t-shirt will do so long as it's not a wife beater. No shorts, no flip-flops or sandals, otherwise you might be renting some god-awful clothes or shoes from a local outside the gate.

BI was supposed to extend the 21day tourist visa to 30days sometime in 2012 but as of yet the change has not been implemented. Maybe Jan 1st? But don't hold your breath on that one.

Bakabon23

12-30-12, 20:23

Really?

Wikipedia isn't the most authoritative source, but a quick read turns this up:

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I do have an interest in getting the facts before I start using or believing absolutes such as "never". Up to you to decide whether the apology and compensation was sufficient.

Was the Japanese Imperial military the most horrific or nastiest one in world history, as someone else has written? I'm pretty sure Genghis Khan's Mongol horde tops Japan's. Here's a quote: 'Man's greatest joy is to slay his enemy, plunder his riches, ride his steeds, see the tears of his loved ones and embrace his women. ' I recently saw a documentary on Discovery or NatGeo that stated 1 in 200 of the world's male population is a direct descendent of Genghis Khan. In Asia it's 8% of all males.Just joined ISG to better plan my return to RP after a 20 year hiatus. Haven't been there since my squadron rotated through NAS Cubi Point in the early 1990s. Visit "Philippines General Info" and the first posts I read are regarding Japan with several grossly uninformed rants about what the Imperial Japanese Army did during WWII how they are the "most horrific and nastiest" ever. Really?

Hutsori (sp) closed the loop on some absurd statements with his very well put together statement above. Japan officially apologizes about every 2-3 years in general or to specific countries, and backs it up with yen in reparations. That is how it has official diplomatic relations with everyone in Asia save North Korea. The calls for apologies every couple of years from some corner of Asia formerly under the Japanese boot has more to do with diplomatic leverage for a particular bi-lateral or multilateral circumstance, as political cover during times of times of economic turmoil, and (as seen recently the East China Sea) as political cover during large dictatorial power turnovers (China).

I will add perspective in addition to Hutsori's (sp) mention of Genghis Khan (look up his descendents Kublai Khan and Tamerlane for some added brutality). Hell, read about the Roman Legions, Khymer Rouge, etc. I could go on and on.

My added perspective is the Philippine-American War (1899-1902).1/9th (estimated 1, 000, 000 of 9, 000, 000) of the Philippine population was killed during the 3 year war, mostly from disease while being locked up in concentration camps created by US Forces to separate rebels from their support. Additionally, there are hundreds of firsthand published reports in US newspapers of entire villages and towns being slaughtered and torched by US Forces. This is a true "black hole" in US history that no one ever mentions. I used to wonder why the Filipinos liked us so much. Must not teach much history there.

To put it in perspective, Philippine casualties during WW2 were approximately 860, 000 (Wikipedia).60, 000 military deaths. 800, 000 civilian related to the war. This is out of a total population in 1945 of 16, 000, 000. That equates to a casualty rate of a little more than 1/20. Far less than 1/9th.

I didn't pull this out of a hat; we read about it the Philippine Insurrection during a portion of Naval War College (I'm a retired Marine Colonel / Naval Aviator) dealing with insurgency. (Although the majority of readings were from the Algerian War of the late 1950s and Vietnam).

Taking how much you all love the RP and some even live there, perhaps you should read some more of the local history. Regards.

Cunning Stunt

12-31-12, 08:44

snip. And the first posts I read are regarding Japan with several grossly uninformed rants about what the Imperial Japanese Army did during WII how they are the "most horrific and nastiest" ever. Really?

Snip. Taking how much you all love the RP and some even live there, perhaps you should read some more of the local history.Not another crying heart apologist for the Japanese? You are going to be a real useful member of the forum if this cherry post is a guide of what to expect in future. Mind you, it makes a change from the usual stupid, endlessly repeated questions asked by Noobs, which was probably posed and answered on the previous page or two, if they had only bothered to RTFF. Mind you, on reflection, I suspect that you are not a noob.

Comparing the behaviour of the Japanese Imperial Army, in war, to the mongol hordes is appropriate and perhaps not too extreme. Both were vicious, cruel and implacable in war and conquest, to both civilian populations that came under their sway and to combatants that were unlucky enough to be taken by them.

I had an uncle who was captured in Singapore and later used as expendable slave labour on the death railway in Burma. He was one of the lucky ones who survived the experience but it affected his physical and mental health for the rest of his life. He lived till the late eighties, long enough to see the Japanese economic miracle. But he, like most FEPOWs, was ever able to forgive the Japs for what they did to his comrades and himself. He would never have anything made in Japan in his house which was a bloody inconvenience for his wife and family. As far as I know, he never received an apology from the Japanese Government.

War is a nasty business but the Japanese Forces, in war, was a particularly brutal and unforgiving enemy. Even the Nazis treated their POWs better than they did.

Thought it was the British who invented the concentration camp idea in the Boer war? Are you claiming this dubious distinction for the USA?

Wicked Roger

12-31-12, 09:19

Please note that you will need a visa extension if you will stay longer than 21 days. You can visit any BI office to get the extension. Cost 3030php. Wear long pants, closed toe shoes and a shirt with a collar, like a golf shirt. Although a clean t-shirt will do so long as it's not a wife beater. No shorts, no flip-flops or sandals, otherwise you might be renting some god-awful clothes or shoes from a local outside the gate.

BI was supposed to extend the 21day tourist visa to 30days sometime in 2012 but as of yet the change has not been implemented. Maybe Jan 1st? But don't hold your breath on that one.Or you could get the extension at the airport (NAIA) for around 2800 pesos. Go the small office on the left of the foriegn toursit immigration / passport desks and there you can wait for 15 mins and they will provide you a 59 day visa. Much easier than going to a BI office

Sammon

12-31-12, 15:37

Or you could get the extension at the airport (NAIA) for around 2800 pesos. Go the small office on the left of the foriegn toursit immigration / passport desks and there you can wait for 15 mins and they will provide you a 59 day visa. Much easier than going to a BI officeHow do you get to immigration area without holding a boarding pass at NAIA?

MrHombre

12-31-12, 16:05

Thought it was the British who invented the concentration camp idea in the Boer war? Are you claiming this dubious distinction for the USA?[/QUOTE]Not sure the Americans were the inventors, but the North and South both had POW camps during the Civil War that were pretty ugly. And yes, the Japanese army in WWII was worse than brutal. I had an elderly Dutch neighbor captured in Indonesia that survived many of their camps. He somehow managed to keep his sanity for after the war.

Wicked Roger

12-31-12, 19:18

How do you get to immigration area without holding a boarding pass at NAIA?This is as you arrrive Sammon not on the way out.

As you walk towards passport control for foreginers on the left is a small office, pop in there ask the extension, hop out once you have and pass through to baggage reclaim. Easier and much better than queuing up later

Stroker Ace88

12-31-12, 19:59

This is as you arrrive Sammon not on the way out.

As you walk towards passport control for foreginers on the left is a small office, pop in there ask the extension, hop out once you have and pass through to baggage reclaim. Easier and much better than queuing up laterRog,

Just to clear up some confusion, what NAIA terminal are you refering to? T1? T2? T3?

On one side of T2 international arrival wing as you come down the stairs there's a small room off to the left, BI passport control straight ahead, on the right side is the connection desk and the loo located under the stairs. On the other side of T2 international arrival wing when you come down the stairs there's no place to go but to the loo located on the left under the stairs and BI passport control straight ahead.

T3 no idea where the BI office is located.

Stroker Ace88

12-31-12, 20:02

How do you get to immigration area without holding a boarding pass at NAIA?Sam,

Yep Rog was talking about when arriving at NAIA on an international flight and being able to get a 59day visa extention before going through the BI passport control booth.

Soapy Smith

12-31-12, 20:17

My added perspective is the Philippine-American War (1899-1902).1/9th (estimated 1, 000, 000 of 9, 000, 000) of the Philippine population was killed during the 3 year war, mostly from disease while being locked up in concentration camps created by US Forces to separate rebels from their support. Additionally, there are hundreds of firsthand published reports in US newspapers of entire villages and towns being slaughtered and torched by US Forces. This is a true "black hole" in US history that no one ever mentions. I used to wonder why the Filipinos liked us so much. Must not teach much history there.

Taking how much you all love the RP and some even live there, perhaps you should read some more of the local history. Regards.The Philippine-American War is a useful comparison. It may help put things in perspective. I am neither Filipino nor an Ex-Pat, but I have read Filipino history written by Filipinos (and Americans). The accounts I have read suggest their were atrocities on both sides, and most acknowledge that the Americans forced civilians into ghetto confinements (ostensibly to "protect" innocent villagers from rebels) and perfected the use of water torture and extracting confessions by hanging suspects up by their thumbs. And reports were written about American forces wiping out entire villages. Some were probably true, but domestic American journalistic sources at the time were not very reliable, since the conversation was widely divided among strident imperialists and anti-imperialists. Both sides employed hand-picked journalists to get out their particular versions of events. War is hell.

The numbers of Filipinos killed in the Phil-Am War is widely disputed. Stanley Karnow, for example, has put the number at 200, 000. Renato Constantino, usually regarded as having written the first Filipino-centric history of the Philippines, similarly cites the figure 200, 000. Other historians have suggested between 200 and 250, 000. An American general, Bell, claimed that one sixth of the population of Luzon alone (about 600, 000) had been killed. Military leaders, of course, have their own agendas to serve in pronouncing enemy casualty counts. The one million number (or even 1. 4 million from another source) was calculated from "estimates" of the population before and after the war. Problem is, it's not clear who conducted either estimate, nor what, if any, methods they used. Other popluation estimates put the population at 6. 7 and 7. 5 million, respectively. But just for perspective, approximately 126,000 Americans served at one time or another in the Phil-Am War. So if 1.4 million Filipinos were killed, that's an average of more than 11 per American soldier. I understand upholding the image of the American fighting man, but this claim is a little beyond belief.

I confess I had never thought of the Naval War College as a primary source for "local" Philippine history.

Why did Filipinos love Americans inspite of these atrocities? Many reasons. Despite tacit racism and thinly veiled self-interests, the Americans did introduce universal primary education and government institutions like those back home. They did promise independence even as the commonwealth government was being instituted, and they followed through on the promise. The 39 or so years under the Americans probably stood in stark contrast to either the Spanish colonizers or the Japanese WWII occupation. A more cynical view, sometimes echoed by Ex-Pats in this forum, is that Filipinos are compliant and loyal people. There's a long history to this that far precedes the American incursion; it includes loyalty to harsh Spanish rulers and Catholic hegemony. Interestingly, the Philippine national martyr, Jose Rizal, believed Filipinos were not ready for self-rule in the late 19th Century, and thus distanced himself from the Katipunan and others (Bonifacio, Aguinaldo, etc.) who espoused violent rebellion. And despite American duplicity in dealings with Aguinaldo and others, many of the Philippine ilustrados (educated elites) actually believed the Americans' initial benevolent intentions. The armed engagement led by Aguinaldo and others against the Americans was hardly a universal sentiment.

Wicked Roger

01-01-13, 01:39

Rog,

Just to clear up some confusion, what NAIA terminal are you refering to? T1? T2? T3?Terminal 1 as this where most of us who arrive in the country enter through.

Am not sure T2 or T3 as when using the latter (as a Cebu Pacific passenger) I never need to get an extension

FreebieFan

01-01-13, 11:21

Well clearly the anti trafficking measures are really working well at manila airport.

Last night in Beijing (was a mere minus 5 for all you short and tshirt clad wimps LOL) I met a 22 year old Filipina who is an ocassional bedmate.

She bought along two friends who were cold, who are also pinay and working in Beijing. One was 18 and one was 19 (they didn't join as bedmates sadly) _.

I asked them how they could get past all the anti trafficking crusaders aka immigration officials.

One of them blithely replied that she had a grandmother working in immigration in Manila airport and she helped them bypass immigration checks.

Jambo

01-02-13, 00:40

Terminal 1 as this where most of us who arrive in the country enter through.

Am not sure T2 or T3 as when using the latter (as a Cebu Pacific passenger) I never need to get an extensionMy last time through Term 3 (Cebu Pacific from Hong Kong) the immigration office had never heard of getting a visa extension on arrival there. 'This was last summer I had posted the news elsewhere, sorry seems I forgot to post it here.

Econo Tech

01-02-13, 08:37

Terminal 1 as this where most of us who arrive in the country enter through.

Am not sure T2 or T3 as when using the latter (as a Cebu Pacific passenger) I never need to get an extensionT1 all airlines. Almost.

T2.Philippines Airlines.

T3. Cebu Pac (and Air Phil Express and Zeste. I think.)

Bakabon23

01-02-13, 23:53

I confess I had never thought of the Naval War College as a primary source for "local" Philippine history.

Why did Filipinos love Americans inspite of these atrocities? Many reasons. Despite tacit racism and thinly veiled self-interests, the Americans did introduce universal primary education and government institutions like those back home. They did promise independence even as the commonwealth government was being instituted, and they followed through on the promise. The 39 or so years under the Americans probably stood in stark contrast to either the Spanish colonizers or the Japanese WWII occupation. A more cynical view, sometimes echoed by Ex-Pats in this forum, is that Filipinos are compliant and loyal people. There's a long history to this that far precedes the American incursion; it includes loyalty to harsh Spanish rulers and Catholic hegemony. Interestingly, the Philippine national martyr, Jose Rizal, believed Filipinos were not ready for self-rule in the late 19th Century, and thus distanced himself from the Katipunan and others (Bonifacio, Aguinaldo, etc.) who espoused violent rebellion. And despite American duplicity in dealings with Aguinaldo and others, many of the Philippine ilustrados (educated elites) actually believed the Americans' initial benevolent intentions. The armed engagement led by Aguinaldo and others against the Americans was hardly a universal sentiment.[/QUOTE]Skip Kost,

Thank you for your informed and cogent elaboration on the Philippine-American War. NWC was not a primary source of "local" Philippine history. The course title would be something like "The Evolution of Counter Insurgency Warfare in the 19th and 20th Century". We would be assigned a stack of books to read weekly prior to a round table discussion each Wednesday, followed by a paper due on Friday about some question posed by the facilitator / professor. The reading on the Philippine Insurrection was only a handout as I recall. Maybe 30 printed pages. The 1/9th Philippine casualty rate struck me as shocking as well as the rhetoric coming out of the mouth so US General Officer (to include MacArthur's Father, the initial campaign commander). I remember being struck by how none of us fairly well educated Navy and Marine Officers had anything beyond a skin deep knowledge of the conflict and associated war crimes.

Please kindly recommend a particular book on general Philippine history and on the Philippine Insurrection.

Thank you and regards.

Bakabon23

01-03-13, 00:11

thought it was the british who invented the concentration camp idea in the boer war? are you claiming this dubious distinction for the usa?not sure the americans were the inventors.[/quote]no, the british army (and the british press) coined the phrase in english, published it in newspapers, added it to doctrinal publications, and scientifically applied it during the boer war. sadly, they didn't "scientifically" enforce sanitation standards nor had antibiotics been invented yet. hence, the horrendous casualties.

no, the concentration camp is not an american invention. unless, you count the enforced concentration and migration into indian reservations (earliest is the cherokee, i think in the 1830s).) the us army in the philippines-american war did not have nearly the "army" of correspondents to accurately report on the goings on. no phrase was used for doctrine as far as i can tell. forcing rep001tered villages in rebel stronghold in order to starve the enemy of food and aid was undertaken by operational orders. as above, sanitation standards were not enforced nor had antibiotics been invented yet. hence, the horrendous casualties.

the concentration camp is the strategic counterinsurgency invention of a prussian (read german) mercenary staff officer (i can't remember his name) serving as an adviser in the spanish army during the ten year war (1860-70s in cuba, i think). their name for the strategy included the term "concentration" in spanish.

so, the dubious title of the inventor and first user of concentration camps in counterinsurgency is the spanish.

regards

Bakabon23

01-03-13, 01:15

[quote=cunning stunt; 1367195]not another crying heart apologist for the japanese?"

where did i say anything in apology for the imperial japanese army. i don't follow how simply refuting erroneous statements ("no apologies","worst ever") leads to someone being an apologist.

"you are going to be a real useful member of the forum if this cherry post is a guide of what to expect in future. mind you, it makes a change from the usual stupid, endlessly repeated questions asked by noobs, which was probably posed and answered on the previous page or two, if they had only bothered to rtff. mind you, on reflection, i suspect that you are not a noob."

it depends on what you define to be a "noob." my first deployment of the pi was in 1991 to nas cubi point; i flew numerous times into clark air base for fuel and lbfm stop. i crossed "shit river bridge" (you don't know what that is, do you?) numerous times before mt pinatubo blew and us forces abandoned our bases there. i've been a "hobbiest" for the last 22 years during multiple deployments overseas during my military career although i have far more time mongering in thailand, korea (wide open in the early 1990s) , and colombia / peru. places us forces had a constant presence during the last 20 years.

"i had an uncle who was captured in singapore and later used as expendable slave labour on the death railway in burma. he was one of the lucky ones who survived the experience but it affected his physical and mental health for the rest of his life. he lived till the late eighties, long enough to see the japanese economic miracle. but he, like most fepows, was ever able to forgive the japs for what they did to his comrades and himself. he would never have anything made in japan in his house which was a bloody inconvenience for his wife and family."

i am sorry to hear about your uncle and his horror filled experiences. hatred no matter how justifiably earned must have been a terrible burden on him throughout his remaining years. it is unfortunate that he never took the steps to work his way toward some form of reconciliation no matter how minor. i suspect he never even made the smallest of attempts to understand his former enemy nor to meet anyone even associated loosely with japan. i don't really see where his "witnessing" the japanese economic miracle has much play in his burden. begrudging a competent, cultured, literate, and organized people their own success speaks more of a continued lifelong attempt to feed and nurture off his own hatred. again, a terrible burden.

"war is a nasty business but the japanese forces, in war, was a particularly brutal and unforgiving enemy."

true statement. not really sure where i denied such. i simply interjected a statistical and historical fact to shake up the paradigm. i suspect it has by the speed of your response. and the lack of response regarding the philippine-american war.

"even the nazis treated their pows better than they did."

this statement is only half true, half false. the germans in the second world war treated "western" pows quite well relatively; americans, british, canadians, free french. they did not treat their soviet pows "better". soviet pow survival rates were actually lower than fepow survival rates. they were used for slave labor, in medical and weapons experiments, starved to death, and simply shot when they outlived their usefulness. on a side note, german pows captured by the red army during the long retreat also had lower survival and repatriation rates than pows of the ija.

you seem to make a habit of calling people names: noob, apologist, jap. it comes off as a response of someone that actually has no response worth positing and has only vignettes to offer as proof. i think you would come off as much more cogent and mature if you stopped using nasty labels to describe people just looking for answers like the rest of us.

i responded to your concentration camp invention comment on a prior post.

regards.

Stroker Ace88

01-03-13, 03:50

Terminal 1 as this where most of us who arrive in the country enter through.

Am not sure T2 or T3 as when using the latter (as a Cebu Pacific passenger) I never need to get an extensionWR,

OK thanks for the supplemental info.

Fredje1961

01-03-13, 10:35

not sure the americans were the inventors.no, the british army (and the british press) coined the phrase in english, published it in newspapers, added it to doctrinal publications, and scientifically applied it during the boer war. sadly, they didn't "scientifically" enforce sanitation standards nor had antibiotics been invented yet. hence, the horrendous casualties.

no, the concentration camp is not an american invention. unless, you count the enforced concentration and migration into indian reservations (earliest is the cherokee, i think in the 1830s).) the us army in the philippines-american war did not have nearly the "army" of correspondents to accurately report on the goings on. no phrase was used for doctrine as far as i can tell. forcing rep001tered villages in rebel stronghold in order to starve the enemy of food and aid was undertaken by operational orders. as above, sanitation standards were not enforced nor had antibiotics been invented yet. hence, the horrendous casualties.

the concentration camp is the strategic counterinsurgency invention of a prussian (read german) mercenary staff officer (i can't remember his name) serving as an adviser in the spanish army during the ten year war (1860-70s in cuba, i think). their name for the strategy included the term "concentration" in spanish.

so, the dubious title of the inventor and first user of concentration camps in counterinsurgency is the spanish.

regards[/quote]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/weyler

Ickywicky

01-03-13, 17:59

Cunning Stunt

01-04-13, 04:35

Firstly, let me say that I thought you was another retired senior ex-US army officer who was active on the Thai forum a few years back and recently resurfaced and sent me a PM. It seems an odd coincidence that another member with an almost identical profile should appear but so be it. I guess that fact that you are unable to handle 'quotes' does tend to suggest that you are a new member here.

Apologies for calling you an apologist and a noob. Noob as you may be aware is a slang term for a new member. It can have derogatory connotations, but is also often used for descriptive purposes only, without a value judgment. So it wasn't meant as name calling or as a specific insult. I have always thought it odd that a Japanese person should object to being called a Jap. The British don't object to the term Brit or the Australians to Aussie so why the Japanese to Jap. Of course I know that the reason for this has its roots in the Second World War when everyone called them Japs in a derogatory manner. I would never dream of calling a present day Japanese person a Jap but when referring to their wartime military incarnation, I think it is acceptable.

With regards to my ridiculous statement about the Nazis, I should have engaged my brain before opening my mouth. Of course the Nazis were every bit as bad, if not worse in their treatment of prisoners. Although a signatory to the Geneva convention (which the Japanese were not) , as you said, they only applied its terms to western POWs and not to the much greater number of Slav prisoners who they considered sub-human and therefore expendable.

Regarding my uncle and the countless other FEPOWs who survived the war and were never able to fully able to fully put it behind them. I guess its hard to place yourself in the shoes of such a person and trite to expect them to pull themselves together and come to terms with the experience and forgive and forget. I know that my uncle suffered from vivid and disturbing nightmares right up to the time of his death so the cruelties and privations he endured were always kept fresh in his mind. He, as was the case for many FEPOWs, seldom talked about his experiences and being of a generation that kept a 'stiff, upper lip' they tried to get on with life as best as they were able. These days, we are far more aware of the damaging effects of PTSD and are better able to treat it.

I'll choose to ignore your dig in the last paragraph. I admit that my knowledge of the colonial and post-colonial history of the American Forces in The Philippines is sketchy at best and I will bow to your superior know-how. These days, with help of the internet and a wikapedia mentality, we have all become instant experts.

Pete Benetar

01-04-13, 07:44

[quote=cunning stunt; 1367195]i am sorry to hear about your uncle and his horror filled experiences. hatred no matter how justifiably earned must have been a terrible burden on him throughout his remaining years. it is unfortunate that he never took the steps to work his way toward some form of reconciliation no matter how minor. i suspect he never even made the smallest of attempts to understand his former enemy nor to meet anyone even associated loosely with japan. i don't really see where his "witnessing" the japanese economic miracle has much play in his burden. begrudging a competent, cultured, literate, and organized people their own success speaks more of a continued lifelong attempt to feed and nurture off his own hatred. again, a terrible burden.speaking absolute numbers in war crimes tells half the story, but often times the barbarity is what draws the conclusion. illustrated depictions of bayoneting infants, or stacking up prisoners to see how many a. 308 round will go through, beheading contests and the like did not help the japanese propagandizement efforts. nor did murdering thousands administering live biologic agents as unit 731 did in ne china. i think you mentioned "black holes" in american history books wrt to the pi-american war. how many copies of "the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of nanking" do you think are issued for study at the national defense academy in yokosuka?

no, it's definitely not about just the numbers. even absolute efficacy of genocide, no matter how logical you or your cohort believe bringing up some guy from a thousand odd years ago. i mean really, genghis kahn? if you want to stay in the realm of recent history, perhaps mao tse tung or stalin would get the cup. i'm all for interpreting absolutism of genocide in proportions; maybe a better american example would be the native americans. not a wholesale killing genocide, but thoroughly extinguished an entire culture with a moderation of killing along the way. fits nicely in the black hole model too. twenty congressional medals of honor awarded at wounded knee for killing mostly women and children.

i know war is war, retired us army myself and a twin bro who flew hawkeyes off the forrestal and later the jfk before flying for american. maybe was tapping lbfms at subi same time you were. one of my uncles was in the 1st mardiv in the pacific who corrected me one time when i blasted that the "japs" deserved everything they got when we nuked them. this guy, my uncle, was completely phucked by what he went through said stonely "no, they didn't (deserve the bombing) , but it was the best thing we could do", explaining to his young nephew then how many us land casualties we would have invading japan.

ok, so it seems i'm really meandering here. but even suggesting that someone (who survived what was probably an incomprehensible pow / epw experience) would have been better off "reaching out" and and, what, loving his enemy or something? i get it, you think he might be better off being "rational". but that enface seems at least patronizing and perhaps just asinine. the japanese were arguably the most inhumane occupiers the world has seen. and you almost seem to suggest this guy might stand in judgment for a mild variation of anti-nipponism.

but then, we were talking about sex slaves. or, were we? prime minister shinzo abe has declared the "comfort women" were not enslaved, they were prostitutes. do you think this is a sign of a people sincerely interested in reparation? the japanese are truly great people. the west has had an impeccable alliance with them post wwii. but their behavior during wwii was in many respects a model for institutionalized evil, imho.

Pinoy Guy

01-04-13, 10:27

Rick Rock

01-04-13, 11:02

And yet the United States is built on the genocide of the native people, slavery of African people, exploitation of immigrant people and colonies like the Philippines. Oh, and they dropped atomic bombs.

The difference being that the people of Japan seem to have learned their lesson, rejecting en masse any attempts by the government there to rebuild an offensive military force, while the US has gone on to fight in some kind of military adventure at an average rate of one per year since the close of WW2.

And about those concentration camps: the NAZIs molded theirs on the techniques used by the US government to round up the Indians in the previous centuries. This fact is undeniable, since it's revealed in confidential inter-party communication discovered after the war.

I don't blame the people of the US same as they shouldn't blame anyone in Japan. Most know what they were told in told, books and through the media. Same goes for any other country. The biggest loser in any war is the average Joes and Janes who shed blood because some combination of military brass, politicians and board room scum decided their political-economic dispute needed to be resolved physically.

The only answer for those kinds of people, time tested and proven through history, is fraternization between soldiers of opposing camps (as seen in WWI, USSR/Hungary in 56, and some small extent Vietnam) and enlisted men turning their guns on the brass. The guy sending you out to get your face blown off is more of an enemy than some guy you've never so much as seen from the other side of the world.

Sky Ryder

01-04-13, 11:44

Traveling the PI in a bit and was worried about withdrawing from an ATM with my Chinese debit card.

Recently my capital one visa card expired and I got a new one issued back in the USA but unfortunately while traveling having had the time to get it from home. So I'm traveling with one of those debit cards for a credit union bank which despite repeated attempts still doesn't seem to work here.

Trying to figure out if anyone has any personal experience on this front even as I'm looking into online forums and asking tourist guides / whatever (I never trust just one source) : Does the China Union Pay work over there in the Philippines?

Note that it says so on many websites, but I'm wondering if anyone has any personal experiences or has seen their logo on the ATMs in the area.I should say that at least mine works.

I have used both a Bank of China and a China Merchants Bank ATM card in Manila. Most ATM's in the places I have been in the Phil's has the Union Pay logo.

One possible hiccup is whether or not your Chinese account was set up for international use. Since RMB is not an international currency, sometimes they want USD on depsosit in China to use for "exchange withdrawls", I haven't encountered this issue, but have friends that had some problems.

Stroker Ace88

01-05-13, 00:47

I should say that at least mine works.

I have used both a Bank of China and a China Merchants Bank ATM card in Manila. Most ATM's in the places I have been in the Phil's has the Union Pay logo.

One possible hiccup is whether or not your Chinese account was set up for international use. Since RMB is not an international currency, sometimes they want USD on depsosit in China to use for "exchange withdrawls", I haven't encountered this issue, but have friends that had some problems.Some good info posted by Sky Ryder. I will just add that Bank of China And China Bank Are two totally seperate banking institutions.

Bank of China is fully owned by the Chinese Government.

China Bank is a Philippines based bank controlled by Henry Sy and family.

Easy to get the two mixed up.

Soapy Smith

01-05-13, 07:01

Please kindly recommend a particular book on general Philippine history and on the Philippine Insurrection.Warning: this is a detailed answer to questions about the Phil-Am War; if your primary interest is to find the shortest route to Pinay puki, don't waste your time with this. I would have moved the discussion to the history and politics thread but I'm too lazy to learn how to carry quotes from one thread to another.

I recommend two history books that I have read fairly extensively:

Stanley Karnow (1989). *In our image: America's empire in the Philippines* Ballantine Books. Karnow was a well-established journalist who covered Southeast Asia for many years, including during the Vietnam Conflict. This research was done initially to produce a Public Television series by the same name. The book is much more exhaustive and detailed than the TV series. This is a tome of more than 495 pages in small print. It was written for a 'popular' audience rather than academic historians. It's well organized (IMHO) and very readable. It is particularly detailed on the political backdrop to the Phil-Am war, especially on the American side. It does not present a battle-by-battle account of the war, but it recounts the history of the war from a litany of primary (soldiers' and leaders' communications and original documents) and secondary sources (earlier accounts from journalists and other historians). He does not spare the atrocious details from either side. His coverage of the war includes about 120 pages. I found a used copy through Amazon, and I presume copies are still available.

Renato Constantino (1975). *The Philippines: A past revisited* Self-published in Quezon City. This is a 'Filipino-centric' or 'nationalist' orientation that fills in details from the Philippine side. He argues that most histories of Spanish and American colonialism and the wars against Spain and the United States romanticize the colonial powers, as well as the Church, and under-estimate the extent and duration of Filipino resistance against the colonial powers. His presentation of events is similar to Karnow, but his interpretation of their meaning differs. This book covers from the pre-Spanish period until 1941. A second volume, entitled *The continuing past* covers the period from 1941 until 1965. You will not find these books on Amazon. Look for them in the larger National Book Store locations around Manila. Constantino fought in the WWII Battle of Bataan, escaped, and provided surveillance over the Japanese to pro-American guerillas during the occupation. He served in the Philippine delegation to the U. N. In the late 1940s and later in Philippine government. He taught on the faculties of several Manila area universities and wrote columns for numerous Manila newspapers. He was a leftist critic of Marcos and was placed on house arrest by the regime for several years and forbidden to leave the country. He died in 1999, but I believe his widow (Letizia) , who helped in writing the two historical books, is still alive. Their daughter, Karina, is married to Randy David, a retired UP professor and well-known columnist for the *Philippine Daily Inquirer*

Unfortunately, it is hard to find comprehensive histories that cover the period after the 1986 overthrow of Marcos. One that includes some of this period is Jose Arcilla's (1998) *An introduction to Philippines history* from Ateneo University Press. This is a little 140 page book that provides skimpy detail and definitely romanticizes the American influence and the contributions of the Church. Arcilla is a Jesuit and is or was on the history faculty at Ateneo. Available from outlets such as National Book Stores but not worth the expenditure if you care about details and 'objectivity. '

If you want to dig into greater detail on the Phil-Am war, Karnow provides extensive appendices about other sources. One source that both he and Constantino cite is a five-volume manuscript entitled *Philippine Insurgency* by Captain John R. M. Taylor. I believe these were prepared for United States Senate hearings in 1902 or 1903 as a review of war activities after reports of atrocities from Samar and Batangas showed up in the American press. I found one of the volumes online. It is a record of documents (including communications to and from the Filipino leader Emilio Aguinaldo) and interviews with various participants from the American side. It is a raw primary source, but not organized into a historical narrative.

FWIW, Arthur MacArthur was the third campaign commander, after Wesley Merritt and Elwell Otis.

Ickywicky

01-05-13, 12:13

Thank you Stroker and Ryder.

Which sounds like a pretty hilarious porn duo team name, or a great detectives CSI team.

Stroker Ace88

01-06-13, 02:36

Thank you Stroker and Ryder.

Which sounds like a pretty hilarious porn duo team name, or a great detectives CSI team.LOL, I will go with the second one thank you very much. No crossing swords for me.

You are welcome.

Pinoy Guy

01-06-13, 10:47

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I don't give a fuck about being political correct.

The reason I deleted your comments is exactly as I stated above: Past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.

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Econo Tech

01-07-13, 03:49

And for those who believe in All Things Wikipedia.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2257482/The-war-Wikipedia-fooled-years-Bicholim-Conflict-article-elaborate-4-500-word-hoax.html

Nvslim

01-07-13, 11:05

Thought this was interesting and demonstrates the level of corruption in the P. I.

ATIMONAN, Philippines (AP) — At least three police personnel were among 13 suspected criminals who were gunned down in a shootout with Philippine security forces at a highway checkpoint, officials said Monday.

Gunmen riding in three black SUVs opened fire on more than 50 army and police troopers who flagged down the vehicles late Sunday in the coastal town of Atimonan in Quezon province, about 140 kilometers (90 miles) southeast of Manila.

Eleven suspects died on the spot, including a police colonel who was a regional commander and two other officers, said police spokesman Erwin Obal. Authorities were checking the identities of two other victims on suspicion they were either former or current members of the intelligence service of the Armed Forces of the Philippines, Obal said.

Two gunmen jumped out of one of the cars and fired from a roadside canal, said Lt. Col. Monico Abang, who led an army platoon in the clash. The rest stayed in two vehicles, which troops raked with gunfire on a sparsely populated stretch of the highway.

More gunmen fired from a third vehicle, which turned around and fled, Abang said. Authorities didn't say how many suspects were believed to have escaped.

Security personnel sometimes collude with criminal syndicates to rob banks or traffic narcotics in an underworld that often includes corrupt politicians. Abang said an initial investigation showed that the gunmen were likely members of a gun-for-hire group operating in provinces south of Manila.

"They rolled down their windows and started firing, so we had to retaliate," Abang said by cellphone from the scene of the clash."They were clearly outnumbered and outgunned."

On the side of the security forces, a police colonel was shot in the hand and foot and taken to a hospital.

Abang said the army and police had set up the checkpoint after an informant told police that gunmen involved in illegal drugs, gambling and kidnapping for ransom would pass through Atimonan in mountainous Quezon, where communist guerrillas have a presence.

The latest violence followed two other deadly shootings that have revived calls for tighter gun control in the Philippines, where there are more than half a million unlicensed firearms, according to police estimates.

A man who reportedly was drunk and high on drugs killed eight people before being gunned down by police on Friday in Kawit town in Cavite province. 16 kilometers (10 miles) south of Manila.

A 7-year-old girl died a day after being hit in the head by a stray bullet while watching fireworks with her family on New Year's Eve outside their home in Caloocan city, near Manila, despite a high-profile government campaign against powerful firecrackers and celebratory gunfire by Filipinos to welcome 2013.

Earlier Sunday, before the shootout, presidential spokeswoman Abigail Valte told reporters that President Benigno Aquino III, a known gun enthusiast, would study gun-control proposals with other officials. Among the proposals is a call by anti-gun groups to ban the carrying of firearms by civilians outside their homes.

The proliferation of firearms has long fueled crime, political violence and Muslim and communist rebellions that have raged for decades in parts of the Philippines. Previous attempts by authorities to clamp down on unregistered weapons have yielded few results in a country where several politically powerful clans and families control private armed groups in provincial strongholds outside Manila.

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Associated Press writers Jim Gomez and Teresa Cerojano in Manila contributed to this report.Http://news.yahoo.com/police-among-13-suspects-slain-philippine-clash-022232708.html

Econo Tech

01-08-13, 02:27

Thought this was interesting and demonstrates the level of corruption in the P. I.

Http://news.yahoo.com/police-among-13-suspects-slain-philippine-clash-022232708.htmlSo. What is new there? LOL.

All Perfectly Normal.

FreebieFan

01-10-13, 10:34

A newl aw recently acme into existence to prevent the unlawful distribution of "sex videos" and unauthorised online posting of same. So yesterday, Inquirer has two stories of people being arrested for posting or threatening to post videos. The law was bought about due to a case 3 years ago when a doctor took movies of him and his babe, and didn't tell her. Later they entered the public domain. So for all you amateur video hobbyists, don't threaten to share your holiday moments of your honey.

http://technology.inquirer.net/20803/man-arrested-for-posting-video-of-sex-with-girlfriend-on-internet

http://technology.inquirer.net/20358/ex-bfs-threat-to-spread-sex-video-lands-him-in-jail

Rick Rock

01-10-13, 11:25

And yet sending your small children out into a red light district to beg for money remains no problem. Quite a set of priorities they've got going. Clearly this effects the daughters of the respectable middle and upper classes, so it's more important.

ShooBree

01-12-13, 08:00

Is it possible to communicate in spanish with the girls / in general? Or how widely is it spoken?

Soapy Smith

01-12-13, 18:38

Is it possible to communicate in spanish with the girls / in general?In general, no. Many more Filipinos speak English than Spanish. There are a few pockets in the country where a type of Spanish-creole dialect (Chavacano) is spoken, but you rarely run into it in mongering areas. There are, of course, many Spanish words in Tagalog and other Filipino languages. That may help you grasp an occasional word, but doesn't mean they will understand you if you speak Spanish. I've been told by call center workers that their companies recruit for both English and Spanish speakers, and pay more for workers who speak both. But the Spanish speakers are much more difficult to recruit. Interestingly, Filipinos often use Spanish numbers, and any given conversation involving quantities and prices may include seamless movement from Filipino to English to Spanish numbers. Just like when they speak Taglish, they seem unaware they're using multiple languages. Their written forms of Spanish numbers often look odd because modern Filipino contains no c, q, or v, so they substitute other letter combinations to create approximately the same sound.

Redman69

01-13-13, 00:55

I agree with everything skip wrote, I called my girl Mi Amor. She did not know what it meant. We went to bohol on the river cruise a church group was singing a song called mi amor something. No knew the thing was spanish. In manila my nephews wife called the CR bano. I said that is spanish. She correted me and said it is tagalog. I know it is strange. But skip is right on so many fronts. I only know boketo, see can not spell it right. Because when in Costa rica the girls all say that when they see my dick. Now a true story. Was with girl in C. R. And she kept calling me popi, well I thought her father must have molested her. Had a hard time getting a nut. But I had paid and she was 28 and seemed to be having fun. I called home to states to a el Salvdoran friend who ask how was she saying popi, When I told him he laughed and said no it meant something different. God damm same word. So now you will know how spanish speakers will feel in RP. Hope this helps

Slippery

01-13-13, 01:14

They talk about us in their language and / or dialect and we don't understand them. When we go to lola's house, lola and me just speak Spanish and nobody has any idea of what we're talking about. She's 86 now and probably my favorite person in the world. I'm just a white guy that speaks Spanish. Lola was raised way way down south and learned the language as a little girl.

Red Kilt

01-16-13, 09:15

Hello gents, I'd like to go to the Philippines for the beaches but I'm a bit worried about the quality of the girls. I gave a look at the photo gallery but I couldn't figure out what's the best place to find tall (more than 5, 7 inches) and thin girls. Thanks in advanceJust come to the Philippines for the beaches and forget about the girls.

You obviously don't know much about the Philippines or you would already know that 5 ft 7 ins filipinas are as rare as rocking horse shit, and they are certainly NOT distributed in any one place.

To place such a question in the Photo Gallery also makes me wonder what thought processes you have.

FreebieFan

01-16-13, 09:21

You obviously don't know much about the Philippines or you would already know that 5 ft 7 ins filipinas are as rare as rocking horse shit, and they are certainly NOT distributed in any one place.They are indeed very rare, but a little twinge in my memory bank tells me I located one quite recently. Did you get the same twinge?

Red Kilt

01-16-13, 09:31

They are indeed very rare, but a little twinge in my memory bank tells me I located one quite recently. Did you get the same twinge?Haha yes FF I had a couple of similar twinges actually, but she certainly wasn't slim, and she wasn't "model" quality.

The poster asked about where to get very tall (and slim) girls. The tall, slim (and pretty ones) in the Phils are probably in show business or modelling careers already. My daughter, who is 6ft tall, was pestered regularly by talent scouts on a trip to the Phils last year wanting her to be in advertising shoots or bit parts in a movie. It drove her crazy.

PinkPearl

01-16-13, 16:44

"An alien individual, whether a resident or not of the Philippines, is taxable only on income derived from sources within the Philippines."

http://www.taxrates.cc/html/philippines-tax-rates.html

So foreigners (of e. G. The UK, Canada, USA) living in the PI solely off of their foreign pension owe no taxes to the PI?

Questor 55

01-16-13, 18:38

Just come to the Philippines for the beaches and forget about the girls.

You obviously don't know much about the Philippines or you would already know that 5 ft 7 ins filipinas are as rare as rocking horse shit, and they are certainly NOT distributed in any one place.

To place such a question in the Photo Gallery also makes me wonder what thought processes you have.If you encounter a 5ft 7in filipina babe switch your LB radar on. As RK could tell you, chances are very high that SHE. Well. ISN"T.

Mr Enternational

01-17-13, 01:04

If you encounter a 5ft 7in filipina babe switch your LB radar on. As RK could tell you, chances are very high that SHE. Well. ISN"T.First check the shoes. You know a lot of them like to wear those tall shoes. But if they are flats and she is that tall, then alert alert!

FreebieFan

01-17-13, 01:56

Haha yes FF I had a couple of similar twinges actually, but she certainly wasn't slim, and she wasn't "model" quality.She certainly WASNT model material! Totally agree. ! LOL

Wicked Roger

01-26-13, 14:55

this was an interesting read.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/documentary-indicts-philippine-justice-system

clearly he may have had other issues with the police but one is supposedly innocent until guilty.

reminds of the case last year when the cebu police 'arrested' a couple for the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) / murder of a minor very quickly after the crime had been committed, press involved, tv etc name of 'suspects' mentioned / pictures and of course the police spoke about collecting the reward that had been offered.

one problem that came to light soon after the arrest was the fact that the 2 'suspects' were seen on cctv at the waterfront lahug around the same time the police claim they were in taiisay about 40 minutes away. the other was the fact he looked nothing like the photofit artist impression!

did not deter the police who said that 'eye witnesseses" (namely young children) were the priority evidence over the cctv (!). and can they now claim the reward! the european guy still languished in jail for some time despite the norwegian consulate representative / government (i think also) etc getting involved and stating the blindingly obvious to the media and police!. who initially refused to accept the facts saying that they were right and everyone else was stupid. until manila got involved and showed how stupid they were.

keep a low profile imho

Tiger 888

01-26-13, 22:06

this was an interesting read.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/documentary-indicts-philippine-justice-system

clearly he may have had other issues with the police but one is supposedly innocent until guilty.

reminds of the case last year when the cebu police 'arrested' a couple for the [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) / murder of a minor very quickly after the crime had been committed, press involved, tv etc name of 'suspects' mentioned / pictures and of course the police spoke about collecting the reward that had been offered.

one problem that came to light soon after the arrest was the fact that the 2 'suspects' were seen on cctv at the waterfront lahug around the same time the police claim they were in taiisay about 40 minutes away. the other was the fact he looked nothing like the photofit artist impression!

did not deter the police who said that 'eye witnesseses" (namely young children) were the priority evidence over the cctv (!). and can they now claim the reward! the european guy still languished in jail for some time despite the norwegian consulate representative / government (i think also) etc getting involved and stating the blindingly obvious to the media and police. who initially refused to accept the facts saying that they were right and everyone else was stupid. until manila got involved and showed how stupid they were.

keep a low profile imhostay out of that dump of a country i'd say.

Wicked Roger

01-28-13, 18:01

This use of archaic laws has also impacted an old friend of mine recently (who is / was a long stay expat resident of the Philippines) , so much so that her left the country quietly but very suddenly with nothing leaving all behind (was far worse than offending the Catholic Church. It was alleged!)

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/filipino-activist-faces-jail-for-offending-church

Tiger. If you hate the country and warn those off it why bother to read FRs? The Philippines is fine just has its own ways and as many have said if you keep a low profile life in the Philippines is fun and stress free most of the time LOL

Slippery

01-29-13, 12:23

Sure, go yell "fire" in a theater. There are better ways of addressing the birth control issue.

Cunning Stunt

01-30-13, 07:07

Yet again, for the umpteenth time, whilst out this morning minding my own business, I was viciously attacked on the street by a Pinay carrying a dangerous weapon. What was it, I hear you gasp. A knife, a club, a gun? None if these. It was a fucking umbrella!

Carried by nearly all women including dessicated old sticks to whom the benefits are minimal, they are invariably locked and loaded and are used primarily to protect from damaging UV rays whilst perambulating in the street. But the vicious thugs that carry them have a secondary, hidden motive I'm sure. Held at just the right height and angle, they can cause maximum damage to the face and eyes of any poor, unwary foreigner that stray their way. And whilst without these nasty implements of carnage, Pinays drift from side to side like ballastless ships in a storm, with them they march in straight lines irrespective of the poor, defenseless souls that lie in their path. Which is usually me and I have the scars to prove it!

Tally Wacker

01-30-13, 07:19

Hmm, well I hope you were not bending over tying your shoes when you got poked and scarred.

Yet again, for the umpteenth time, whilst out this morning minding my own business, I was viciously attacked on the street by a Pinay carrying a dangerous weapon. What was it, I hear you gasp. A knife, a club, a gun? None if these. It was a fucking umbrella!

Carried by nearly all women including dessicated old sticks to whom the benefits are minimal, they are invariably locked and loaded and are used primarily to protect from damaging UV rays whilst perambulating in the street. But the vicious thugs that carry them have a secondary, hidden motive I'm sure. Held at just the right height and angle, they can cause maximum damage to the face and eyes of any poor, unwary foreigner that stray their way. And whilst without these nasty implements of carnage, Pinays drift from side to side like ballastless ships in a storm, with them they March in straight lines irrespective of the poor, defenseless souls that lie in their path. Which is usually me and I have the scars to prove it!

X Man

01-30-13, 09:45

Excellent reply TW! We know CS is a bit kinky, so maybe he's been tying his shoes a lot.

CS, you probably don't want to go to Tokyo on a rainy or snowy or a hot sunny day.

I think I would be totally blind by now if I didn't wear glasses, not to mention wielding my parasol in various aggresive defensive maneuvers. Is that contradictory? How about proactive defense maneuvers?

Thanks for the chuckle TW. CS, did you get a response from the dia "gal"? I've been blocked.

Hmm, well I hope you were not bending over tying your shoes when you got poked and scarred.

Cunning Stunt

01-30-13, 14:59

Aw, come on guys, here am I trying to post a serious health warning about the perils of a Pinay with a parasol, and you have to bring perversion into it. I'll also have you know that my 'kinkyness' stops far short of being poked in the ass with a brolly or anything else!

X. No, she blocked me too. Some folk just don't have a sense of humour.

Red Kilt

02-01-13, 03:57

Check out this new app that Cosmopolitan magazine has launched that works through Facebook.

Seriously too. Once both of you push the "hot" button to indicate acceptance of each other then you can start banging away.

http://bangwithfriends.com/

Pip Jaeger

02-02-13, 01:03

Came across this story about a movement in North Korea against large breasted women and thought it was hysterical.

http://www.foxnews.com/world/2013/01/28/not-everyone-likes-big-boobs-for-example-north-korea/

I'm sure the movement was started by the Pyongyang chapter of the 'Ittee Bittee Tittee Committee' and not the men of NK as the article suggests. Despite religious, political or cultural differences all of the men I'm acquainted with love a nice set of D cups, especially on a cute little Asian spinner; although I have been guilty of telling many an A cup girl that breast size is not important to me to make them feel better, LOL.

In all sincerity I hope that the movement doesn't gain any ground outside of NK; especially in the Phils. Perhaps we need a counter movement? Something like the ASPCD (Asian Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to D cups)? If started, one thing is certain; I would nominate our own forum member 'D-cups' for president.

Can you imagine if these puppies were suppressed? I'm horrified at the thought!

FruitNinja

02-02-13, 03:16

Sounds like you're having a blast. You do remember who I am right? I changed names.

I've never been a titty guy but my little Indian cutie has a set worthy of bragging about. You better be careful or Kim "Dcup" Jung is going to come after your ass. Or even worst turn democratic then there will be twice the Koreans in the Philippines. Not a good thought. I don't do racism but these guys are screwing things up. Getting turned down by a hooker? My life is ruined. Oh wait! I just had a 20 year old hottie for 1000 baht off Beach Road last night. The 21 year old Indian keeps calling me to Skype, is bi, and want's to go on my next trip so she can sample Asian cuisine. I guess my life's not that bad.

Have fun.

AfAsia

02-02-13, 09:11

I would not believe a word of this trashy propaganda Pip. Fox news is a warmongering, hysterical news outlet unfortunately, a disgrace. Large breasted women are also discriminated against in the West.

North Korea has done no harm to the international community. Cheers.

On a positive note, have enjoyed your contributions of late.

Wolvenvacht

02-02-13, 09:25

Stay out of that dump of a country I'd say.I think your feeling is entirely correct ... for the inmates of Guantanamo Bay.

PinkPearl

02-02-13, 10:11

I think your feeling is entirely correct . for the inmates of Guantanamo Bay.Why because you don't agree with how Jack Baeur interogates terrorists?

The Philippines is perfectly safe, while your security detail isn't sleeping on the job.

References:

Sexwork dot com daves reports Asia PI corruption.

Trip advisor dot com safety in Angeles City? Guess again

Socker

02-02-13, 19:25

Metkim

02-04-13, 03:02

Transporter

02-04-13, 05:49

I'd like to save the $60 and take a Victory Liner bus to AC from MNL. I'm coming in very early at 6am and will have a couple thou on me. Would taking the bus be wise carrying this much cash. Should I just bite the bullet and pay for a car from the hotel?

Thanks in advance for any advice.No problem, however the area you will catch the bus in is a bit sketchy

FreebieFan

02-04-13, 08:49

hi guys,

i was wondering from the uncircumcised guys how the filipinas tend to react. i dated a filipina (and a nurse) and when i told her that i was not snipped, she was speechless. her small mindedness thought that the un-snipped penises were extremely not hygienic. i was able to convince her otherwise and there were no issues between us. just wondering if they might be adverse to giving oral (especially bbbj) with my foreskin intact.

thank you in advance.having had over 200 pinays (that was the number i got to when i combined my pinay phone contacts on various sims the other day) plus another 20 or so on ym, and being uncircumsized myself, i think you should find you have no problem at all. to the best of my age addled memory they all happily blew and sucked.

your nurse is very much an exception in my limited expereince.

Econo Tech

02-04-13, 09:15

Having had over 200 pinays (that was the number I got to when I combined my pinay phone contacts on various sims the other day) plus another 20 or so on YM, and being uncircumsized myself, I think you should find you have no problem at all. To the best of my age addled memory they all happily blew and sucked.

Your nurse is very much an exception in my limited expereince.Having screwed enough nurses, she is NOT the exception LOL.

Most if not all Nurses believe circumsion is key to hygiene and one nurse even offered to snip me FOC, using her Philhealth, in the mountain province. Thanks, but no thanks. Considering I will be AOG (aircraft on Ground) for a week plus upto max of 1 month or more.

I'd like to save the $60 and take a Victory Liner bus to AC from MNL. I'm coming in very early at 6am and will have a couple thou on me. Would taking the bus be wise carrying this much cash. Should I just bite the bullet and pay for a car from the hotel?

Thanks in advance for any advice.If you arrive at 6 plus, by the time you reach Pasay terminal, it will be daylight. So don't worry.

Alternate, try the Fly-the-Bus. If they are operating (I was told they wound down.)

For me- it is Pasay. Victory.

Red Kilt

02-04-13, 09:51

Mr Enternational

02-04-13, 10:24

I'd like to save the $60 and take a Victory Liner bus to AC from MNL. I'm coming in very early at 6am and will have a couple thou on me. Would taking the bus be wise carrying this much cash. Should I just bite the bullet and pay for a car from the hotel?

Thanks in advance for any advice.Which day are you going? If it is Saturday then I will be right on that mf with you! I've never had a problem with the bus and 128 piso beats $60 any day of the week.

Pita123

02-04-13, 12:28

It's an interesting question.

I have had several women actually ask me in advance of removal of any clothing whether I was circumsized or not.

Because I replied that I am already circumsized I could not assume that if I had said NO they might have been less interested.

I think we have to go with FF's report since his numbers are getting into "significant" statistical areas.Just yesterday a DH that I'm doing in SG was looking at my beautiful specimen of manhood and commenting that it was cut. I mentioned that it had to do with religion and she noted that most or many PI men are also cut.

Red Kilt

02-04-13, 13:43

Just yesterday a DH that I'm doing in SG was looking at my beautiful specimen of manhood and commenting that it was cut. I mentioned that it had to do with religion and she noted that most or many PI men are also cut.It's a rite of passage that young men go through in the provinces when they turn 10 (I think it's 10).

A group of them get together with a local medicine man (doctor) , a sharp bolo (knife) and a big flat rock and it gets hacked off.

Not sure what happens in the city but it probably isn't anything as sophisticated as having it done in hospital soon after birth.

Socker

02-04-13, 19:12

Which day are you going? If it is Saturday then I will be right on that mf with you! I've never had a problem with the bus and 128 piso beats $60 any day of the week.MR. E, thanks for the response, I'm arriving Thursday 6am or so. Maybe we can hook up for a brew in AC. Will pm you later in the week.

Safe Travels.

El Ted

02-05-13, 04:01

Which day are you going? If it is Saturday then I will be right on that mf with you! I've never had a problem with the bus and 128 piso beats $60 any day of the week.I paid 150 piso from Pasay to Dau with Victory Liner last week. Great service and free Wifi onboard.

FruitNinja

02-05-13, 11:47

Having had over 200 pinays (that was the number I got to when I combined my pinay phone contacts on various sims the other day) plus another 20 or so on YM, and being uncircumsized myself, I think you should find you have no problem at all. To the best of my age addled memory they all happily blew and sucked.

Your nurse is very much an exception in my limited expereince.I'm uncut and had no problem. I had one girl in AC look at it with a bit of curiosity. She thought it was neat. Quite frankly the nurse is totally wrong and circumcision is barbaric by any definition other than religion and doctors needing to add to the bill. I have never had an issue with hygiene but I shower daily, clean my tool after I use it and put it away dry. Not rocket science. I think the added benefit is better sensitivity since the sensitive part of my tool is covered until needed. Funny how nature figured it all out for us.

Metkim

02-05-13, 15:44

Quite frankly the nurse is totally wrong and circumcision is barbaric by any definition other than religion and doctors needing to add to the bill. I have never had an issue with hygiene but I shower daily, clean my tool after I use it and put it away dry. Not rocket science.You are absolutely correct. My experience with Pinoys has been that they see things very black and white. At least that is my perception. I remember when we discussed circumcision, I was telling her that it was a religious ritual and I believe it was done to prevent boys from masturbating. I even told her that there are girls in Africa that get circumcisions of their clitoris. Of course, she was appalled to hear such a thing. Now she gets it, and realizes that like anyone, if we clean ourselves, there should be no "hygienic" issues.

Chocha Monger

02-06-13, 01:37

Filipinas will consider you weird, abnormal and not a real man if your dick is uncut.

http://www.themommist.com/2012/04/sniptuck-circumcision-in-philippines.html

Paul Kausch

02-06-13, 01:47

I'm uncut and had no problem. I had one girl in AC look at it with a bit of curiosity. She thought it was neat. Quite frankly the nurse is totally wrong and circumcision is barbaric by any definition other than religion and doctors needing to add to the bill. I have never had an issue with hygiene but I shower daily, clean my tool after I use it and put it away dry. Not rocket science. I think the added benefit is better sensitivity since the sensitive part of my tool is covered until needed. Funny how nature figured it all out for us.In addition to reducing sensitivity by exposing the head, I've read about one-third to one-half the nerve endings are destroyed when the foreskin is removed. It was common in USA when I was born (early 1950s). Thankfully the ritual is losing favor.

Econo Tech

02-06-13, 02:24

Filipinas will consider you weird, abnormal and not a real man if your dick is uncut.

http://www.themommist.com/2012/04/sniptuck-circumcision-in-philippines.htmlNot if you know which button to press LOL.

Same as their negativity towards A service, but press the right button, the ass is presented to you nice and clean.

FruitNinja

02-06-13, 04:00

Filipinas will consider you weird, abnormal and not a real man if your dick is uncut.

http://www.themommist.com/2012/04/sniptuck-circumcision-in-philippines.htmlLike I said, I had one girl look at it with interest. The rest never mentioned it and there was plenty of head bobbing going on in my lap. Lights on.

FN

Red Kilt

02-06-13, 04:28

In addition to reducing sensitivity by exposing the head, I've read about one-third to one-half the nerve endings are destroyed when the foreskin is removed. It was common in USA when I was born (early 1950s). Thankfully the ritual is losing favor.It's easy to tell from the posts which guys are cut and which are not.

Each finds reasoned arguments to justify / support their own particular situation.

Let's just leave it. It's too late now. I am not getting mine "restored" and I bet those guys uncut are not about to head to the nearest clinic just because of what someone wrote here LOL.

Paul Kausch

02-06-13, 06:26

It's easy to tell from the posts which guys are cut and which are not.

Each finds reasoned arguments to justify / support their own particular situation.

Let's just leave it. It's too late now. I am not getting mine "restored" and I bet those guys uncut are not about to head to the nearest clinic just because of what someone wrote here LOL.Just making a factual statement. Don't think any of us had much say one way or the other when the decision was made to have it done or not. Oh, and by the way, I'm circumcised. And I never gave it much thought until people started to talk about in the 1970's. Still don't give it much thought. As you say, let's just leave it.

Red Kilt

02-07-13, 10:20

Rick Rock

02-07-13, 11:13

Check out this link.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/reward-catch-seoul-taxis-rip-off-foreigners-073140092.html

If same happened in Philippines and it could be enforced then it could support some mongers' lifestyles LOLI heard they were going to try this in Bangkok, but then they ran some numbers and realized not only would every taxi in existence be taken off the road, the whole country would collapse since the economy is entirely based on ripping off foreigners.

Then there's Tokyo where the taxis rip off everyone, local and foreign, with equal opportunity.

PinkPearl

02-07-13, 13:44

Being circumcised in infancy is like being born with a condom on you that stays there 24 hours a day for life:

"Male circumcision reduces the risk that a man will acquire HIV from an infected female partner, and also lowers the risk of other STDs, penile cancer, and infant urinary tract infection. In female partners, it reduces the risk of cervical cancer, genital ulceration, bacterial vaginosis, trichomoniasis, and HPV."

According to the same authoritative source:

"Well-designed studies of sexual sensation and function in relation to male circumcision are few, and the results present a mixed picture. Taken as a whole, the studies suggest that some decrease in sensitivity of the glans to fine touch can occur following circumcision [48]. However, several studies conducted among men after adult circumcision suggest that few men report their sexual functioning is worse after circumcision; most report either improvement or no change [49-52]. The three African trials found high levels of satisfaction among the men after circumcision [16, 17, 18, 46]."

http://www.cdc.gov/hiv/malecircumcision/

Even if circumcised guys have less sensitivity, that does not equate to less sexual pleasure or shorter durations of intercourse. When I haven't cum for a few days I am much more sensitive than when I've cum 2 hours ago. In the former case, due to having greater sensation, it is much harder for me to last as long as in the latter case. If a guy with half as much sensation lasts 10 times as long as the guy with twice as much sensation, his overall pleasure should be 5 times as much as the guy experiencing twice as much pleasure at any moment. Moreover, this does not even consider the pleasures of sex enjoyed in other areas of the body, and that of one's partner. Many women prefer a guy who can last longer.

Irony Monger

02-07-13, 20:19

Then there's Tokyo where the taxis rip off everyone, local and foreign, with equal opportunity.I wouldn't call Tokyo a "rip off". That assumes that the meter says one price but they charge you another. Rather, everything in Tokyo is just expensive, period, and the meter price reflects that. You are paying the going rate, if you don't like it take the train or stay out of Tokyo.

Paul Kausch

02-08-13, 02:38

Slippery

02-08-13, 03:27

I wouldn't call Tokyo a "rip off". That assumes that the meter says one price but they charge you another. Rather, everything in Tokyo is just expensive, period, and the meter price reflects that. You are paying the going rate, if you don't like it take the train or stay out of Tokyo.Perhaps this remark belongs in a Tokyo forum however, we all know that shit trickles down so I'll bring it a 3 1/2 hour flight down to Manila. I was there for 6 days this week until heading north for a few days. There were absolutely no problems with any taxi driver we had other than one big stupid a$$hole. We go in the taxi and he sped off and I mean sped off. I said "meter please". He said "meter broken". I said "ok, I know this ride is less than 60 pesos and I only have 100. Do you have change? Because I don't tip you because no meter. He says "yes I have change." We get to destination and I give him the 100 note and ask for change. He slipped me money and I got out thinking it was change. It was my original 100 and gf is still in the cab. She tells me he says I stole the 100 php from him. I pulled her out of the cab and we went right into Robinsons. He lied about meter and lied about change. 2 lies cost him the price of a fare and a tip and I'm a generous tipper. That's the first problem I have ever had with a Manila taxi driver. Kano poriner screws pinoy for once.

Now, back to Tokyo.

Rick Rock

02-08-13, 07:28

Rick Rock

02-08-13, 07:32

I wouldn't call Tokyo a "rip off". That assumes that the meter says one price but they charge you another. Rather, everything in Tokyo is just expensive, period, and the meter price reflects that. You are paying the going rate, if you don't like it take the train or stay out of Tokyo.Yes, there is not bait and switch. That doesn't stop it from being a rip off though. Ask any Japanese even. They rarely if ever take cabs, because the prices are ridiculous. There's expensive cities then there are taxi mafias. New York is an expensive city. But a one hour trip from JFK to Manhattan in heavy traffic is still $40. Hong Kong is an expensive city, but the same trip would be probably $35. In Seoul, it would be $30. The same trip in Tokyo by cab would be something like $250. They even surpass their world-renown rip off brothers in Bangkok who are at least sane enough not to ask more than $50 max for the 2 hour trek from BKK to Pattaya. It's especially lame because the trains in Tokyo shut down 11:30-12:00 at night, and that's when the blood suckers can really gouge you.

PinkPearl

02-08-13, 08:57

Yes, there is not bait and switch. That doesn't stop it from being a rip off though. Ask any Japanese even. They rarely if ever take cabs, because the prices are ridiculous. There's expensive cities then there are taxi mafias. New York is an expensive city. But a one hour trip from JFK to Manhattan in heavy traffic is still $40. Hong Kong is an expensive city, but the same trip would be probably $35. In Seoul, it would be $30. The same trip in Tokyo by cab would be something like $250. They even surpass their world-renown rip off brothers in Bangkok who are at least sane enough not to ask more than $50 max for the 2 hour trek from BKK to Pattaya. It's especially lame because the trains in Tokyo shut down 11:30-12:00 at night, and that's when the blood suckers can really gouge you.Tokyo is the most expensive city in the world. A loaf of bread there costs 9 USD.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/blogs/insight/vancouver-ranked-north-america-priciest-city-155659088.html

Compare that to a Bangkok supermarket or 7-11 near NEP, which is around 20 baht for about 10 slices.

My guess is bread costs in Manila or AC are much closer to BKK than Tokyo rates.

No wonder the Japanese flock to Thailand & throw money around like its monopoly game currency.

Member #4351

02-08-13, 15:38

Now that I'm in my 60's unfortunately it can take an hour or more before I cum. I suspect this would not be the case if I was uncircumcised.As one who has been a firm supporter of circumcision, I am now having second thoughts. Its great that I don't pick up STDs as readily as someone who isn't circumcised, but after taking some vitamin V it is really difficult to finish. I haven't found anything that makes the prong more sensitive (after doing an online search I even tried some african tree sap butter...didn´t work) so I'm stuck in the same situation as Paul Kausch.

Tally Wacker

02-08-13, 16:30

I hope the Tree had a good time! For me I would be worried about getting splinters in my tally wacker.

I haven't found anything that makes the prong more sensitive (after doing an online search I even tried some african tree sap butter.didn´t work) so I'm stuck in the same situation as Paul Kausch.

Member #4351

02-08-13, 17:06

Very humorous. Shea Body Butter: http://www.amazon.com/Tree-Hut-Butter-Original-7-Ounce/dp/B000KFX10Q/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1360339362&sr=8-9&keywords=shea+butter

Rick Rock

02-09-13, 05:47

Tokyo is the most expensive city in the world. A loaf of bread there costs 9 USD.

http://ca.finance.yahoo.com/blogs/insight/vancouver-ranked-north-america-priciest-city-155659088.html

Compare that to a Bangkok supermarket or 7-11 near NEP, which is around 20 baht for about 10 slices.

My guess is bread costs in Manila or AC are much closer to BKK than Tokyo rates.

No wonder the Japanese flock to Thailand & throw money around like its monopoly game currency.Tokyo is the most expensive city in the world according to sources like Forbes because they are looking at it as foreigners living a western lifestyle (and comparing the weak dollar to the stronger yen over the last few years, though it starting to mediate a little bit). If you're born and raised in Tokyo it's expensive, but probably not the most expensive in the world. Ask anyone from Tokyo who has traveled, they'll tell you.

A subway ride in Tokyo is the same it is in New York. A Starbucks coffee is the same price. A chocolate bar is the same price. A hotel (of equal quality) is a actually little cheaper. Mongering can be much cheaper. For instance the Strawberry blowjob bar (pinsaro) in Tokyo is $22 to get two 15 minute BBBJCIM from two separate girls. Even the quality stuff can be way cheaper. Japanese guys can get hours with model looking women in soapies for a few hundred dollars. Taxis on the other hand are more expensive in Tokyo than anywhere else in the world for sure.

There aren't that many Japanese in Thailand honestly. There are some, but it's limited. I think a lot of white people confuse them with Koreans. There are many more Japanese in Korea or Taiwan. There are many more Koreans in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam.

Cunning Stunt

02-09-13, 09:26

Just received an advisory on my CP that Cebu Pacific will commence daily flights to Dubai on 07 Oct 2013. Don't know the routing but guess they will be direct and a useful addition for the many UAE based Pinayophiles.

Mr Enternational

02-09-13, 14:36

PinkPearl

02-09-13, 17:48

You sure did your homework, which resulted in a very informative post. I will add: I've had several girlfriends who had a number of relationships with circumcised and uncircumcised men. They were all adamant that in general the circumcised men could fuck far longer before cumming, which they rather liked. When I was in my 30's and 40's I took pride in being able to last until my partner came a couple of times before I came. Now that I'm in my 60's unfortunately it can take an hour or more before I cum. I suspect this would not be the case if I was uncircumcised.This sounds like a medical condition known as "delayed ejaculation". It can have various physical or psychological causes, usually the latter. It can be related to aging, alcohol or tobacco use, medicines, surgeries, stress, blockage of ducts, masurbation, various diseases, being overweight, allergies, etc.

"Delayed ejaculation is the inability to ejaculate or persistent difficulty in achieving orgasm despite the presence of normal sexual desire and sexual stimulation. Normally a man can achieve orgasm within 5 minutes of active thrusting during sexual intercourse, [1] whereas a man with delayed ejaculation either does not have orgasms at all or cannot have an orgasm until after prolonged intercourse which might last for 30–45 minutes or more. In most cases delayed ejaculation presents the condition in which the man can climax and ejaculate only during masturbation, but not during sexual intercourse."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_ejaculation

"Delayed ejaculation — sometimes called impaired ejaculation — is a condition in which it takes an extended period of sexual stimulation for a man to reach sexual climax and release semen from the penis (ejaculate). Some men with delayed ejaculation are unable to ejaculate at all.

"Delayed ejaculation can be temporary or a lifelong problem. Possible causes of delayed ejaculation include certain chronic health conditions, surgeries and medications. Treatment for delayed ejaculation depends on the underlying cause.

"It's normal for men to have delayed ejaculation from time to time. Delayed ejaculation is only a problem if it's ongoing or causes stress for you or your partner.

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/delayed-ejaculation/DS01174

As one who has been a firm supporter of circumcision, I am now having second thoughts. Its great that I don't pick up STDs as readily as someone who isn't circumcised, but after taking some vitamin V it is really difficult to finish. I haven't found anything that makes the prong more sensitive (after doing an online search I even tried some african tree sap butter.didn´t work) so I'm stuck in the same situation as Paul Kausch.As per the above, I'd recommend seeing a competent doctor. Perhaps vitamin V is the problem & you should consider trying something else:

"There is yet no reliable medication for delayed ejaculation. PDE5 inhibitors such as Viagra have little effect. [10] In fact, Viagra has a delaying effect on ejaculation, possibly through additional effect in the brain or decrease of sensitivity in the head of the penis. [11] Case studies have reported some success with serotonin antagonists (amantadine) and dopaminergic agents (bupropion, buspirone) , though large, controlled studies are lacking, likely due to the rarity of the condition relative to other forms of male sexual dysfunction."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Delayed_ejaculation

"If you have trouble maintaining an erection or reaching orgasm, ask your doctor about medications or other treatments for these problems."

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/senior-sex/MC00057/NSECTIONGROUP=2

"the vast majority of men who suffer from delayed ejaculation problems get checked out physically and are told that there is nothing mechanically wrong with them."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I1kP5miFRAc

"For some men, stopping or cutting down on the use of alcohol, tobacco, or illegal drugs may improve their ability to control ejaculation."

http://www.healthlinkbc.ca/kb/content/special/tv7761spec.html

That would include second hand smoke in AC bars.

Fredje1961

02-09-13, 19:37

This sounds like a medical condition known as "delayed ejaculation".PP, in each one of your posts you make a reference to a medical condition or diseases. Are you sure that this earth is a place where you can actually enjoy life?

Wazoo

02-09-13, 21:09

[QUOTE=PinkPearl; 1384413]This sounds like a medical condition known as "delayed ejaculation"/QUOTE]I appreciate this discussion because I experienced this on my last trip. It's a relief that it's a common malady. In my case, it's probably caused the use of daily dose Cialis. That drug works like a charm but I noticed a pronounced deadening of feeling. Probably the problem is compounded by jet lag and stress. I didn't know how pronounced the deadening was I got to Phils and actually started putting Johnson to active use. Even with the tight little Filipinas it was very difficult to get to the tipping point. In a week of active mongering I was only able to climax 3 times. On a positive note, it made me into something of a sexual athlete. I was able to go at it for hours at a time with my partners, which amazed and delighted them. My back gave out long before my Johnson. These were all sex-starved civilians. Working girls would not have been so happy. Your reporting is a good reminder to get things checked out by the doc, though. No need to take chances.

Member #4351

02-09-13, 22:49

Well thanks, but I'm pretty certain its just a funcion of age and vitamin V. Not a big deal.

Pete Benetar

02-10-13, 02:24

well thanks, but i'm pretty certain its just a funcion of age and vitamin v. not a big deal.lol. would have to agree with you on aging and rarely a medical condition unto itself. peripheral synapses just don't seem to trigger as fast after the warranty and then you add any other medical conditions the threshold just gets higher. the biggest compounding medical is weight gain and subsequent pre diabetes, diabetes etc which further degrades the wiring.

alcohol bad for me incurring increasing threshold commensurate with amount of etoh. taughtness also a factor; sometimes i wonder if the girl i'm on top of has been buggered by a horse or something. in mish i can only pop the cork if i got her legs pinched good and tight between mine. prolly from all the jerking i did as a kid. come to think, my vision not so good now either.

one of my biggest peeves is getting hyperthermic. i thought it was only me and i was bs'ing with badbear a few years ago down in haiti and bitching to him about the ac off and how it was so hard to spooge doing pushups and dripping sweat. not so much fatigue as it was subjective feeling of being too damn hot. bb looked at me like i was the first guy who'd said that to him then said he had the exact same problem. even home nowadays i keep the temp down; still do most the work as prefer topside and the girl bitching about how cold it is and me cursing her gd elec blanket, usually ripping it away.

last night, same-same. rolled over pending heat prostration trying to get my hat trick of the day; she dutifully fans me comfortably for a several minutes before back on task.

Riddler

02-10-13, 02:51

lol. would have to agree with you on aging and rarely a medical condition unto itself.one of my biggest peeves is getting hyperthermic. back on task."it now takes me all night to do once, what i used to do all night." of course that doesn't mean i enjoy it any less, it's just different. more of the journey over the destination thing!

Paul Kausch

02-10-13, 03:47

this sounds like a medical condition known as "delayed ejaculation". it can have various physical or psychological causes, usually the latter. it can be related to aging, alcohol or tobacco use, medicines, surgeries, stress, blockage of ducts, masturbation, various diseases, being overweight, allergies, etc.thanks for the information. i'm a light drinker. i don't smoke. i'm very fit and in excellent health. but i am 62 years old. an acquaintance who is a licensed sex therapist once told me as i get older masturbating on a regular basis was good when i'm not having sex. he said it was a matter of using it or losing it. i do almost always come eventually. i've attributed it to combination of age and the use of condoms. i seldom used them when i was younger as most of the women i was having sex with were not pros and were well known to me. as i had a vasectomy over 25 years ago, pregnancy was never an issue. now most of my sex is with working girls and i use them to avoid std. i'd appreciate tips on condoms. i use the crown skinless skin condoms. even though they're better than standards such as trojans, they really diminish the sensation. so, i'd appreciate recommendations.

PinkPearl

02-10-13, 09:13

Tokyo is the most expensive city in the world according to sources like Forbes because they are looking at it as foreigners living a western lifestyle (and comparing the weak dollar to the stronger yen over the last few years, though it starting to mediate a little bit). If you're born and raised in Tokyo it's expensive, but probably not the most expensive in the world. Ask anyone from Tokyo who has traveled, they'll tell you.

A subway ride in Tokyo is the same it is in New York. A Starbucks coffee is the same price. A chocolate bar is the same price. A hotel (of equal quality) is a actually little cheaper. Mongering can be much cheaper. For instance the Strawberry blowjob bar (pinsaro) in Tokyo is $22 to get two 15 minute BBBJCIM from two separate girls. Even the quality stuff can be way cheaper. Japanese guys can get hours with model looking women in soapies for a few hundred dollars. Taxis on the other hand are more expensive in Tokyo than anywhere else in the world for sure.

There aren't that many Japanese in Thailand honestly. There are some, but it's limited. I think a lot of white people confuse them with Koreans. There are many more Japanese in Korea or Taiwan. There are many more Koreans in Thailand, Cambodia and Vietnam.I doubt the report ranking Tokyo as the most expensive city included pooning in its list of "goods and services", but who knows.

That's a good deal for a BJ there, though the "blow row" in AC is still cheaper.

Japanese in Thailand?

"More than one million Japanese travelers visit Thailand each year. After Malaysia and China, Japan accounts for the third largest group of international tourists in Thailand. It was projected earlier that about 1.2 million Japanese tourists would visit Thailand in 2011. Following the Japanese crisis in March, Japanese arrivals are likely to drop to 850,000, down by 12 per cent from last year."

http://thailand.prd.go.th/view_news.php?id=5642&a=2

"According to the Tourism Authority of Thailand, [7] 55% of the tourists in 2007 came from the Asia Pacific region, Japanese and Malaysians forming the two biggest groups. The largest groups of Western tourists come from the United Kingdom, Australia, Germany, the United States and Scandinavia. The number of tourists arriving from Russia is on the rise. [8] Around 55% of Thailand's tourists are return visitors. The peak period is during the Christmas and New Year holidays when Western tourists flee the cold conditions.

"In 2011, 1.7 million Chinese visitors traveled to Thailand. It is anticipated that the number for 2012 should reach 2 million and generate approximately 50 billion baht revenue. [9]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tourism_in_Thailand

Pete Benetar

02-10-13, 19:19

I use the Crown Skinless Skin condoms. Even though they're better than standards such as Trojans, they really diminish the sensation. So, I'd appreciate recommendations.Might want to try sheepskins. More expensive and still covers, but some think it affords better sensitization vs latex. Or when with WGs stick with BBBJ, if you can get them and they satisfy you.

Paul Kausch

02-10-13, 20:22

Might want to try sheepskins. More expensive and still covers, but some think it affords better sensitization vs latex. Or when with WGs stick with BBBJ, if you can get them and they satisfy you.Thanks for the advice. Never used sheepskins. The lack of heat transfer with latex is Part of the problem. It may be less of a problem with sheepskins. I've heard about a Japanese condom made with a special polyurethane that is much stronger, thinner, smoother and allows more heat transfer. Is anyone familiar with these? I thought I read a post about them recently, but haven't been able to find it. I wonder if they are sized for a Japanese man. I'm 188cm tall and a little larger than average for a North American man.

From time to time I do think about going bareback. I'd certainly enjoy it more. I've read up on STDs so I know the odds of contracting an STD; I know with a little luck I could have a long string of bareback fucks without contracting an STD; I know if I did most cases are treatable; I know as I'm not out looking for katoeys to bang my ass the risk of contracting HIV / AIDS is low. Some working girls and semi-pros won't allow you to ride bareback. It's easier to find them in the Philippines (thank you Mr. Pope) , harder in other places, especially Europe, North American, in Thailand they're harder to find than in the Philippines. I'm under the impression the promise of a bigger tip changes their attitudes about bareback. Everyone has their price. Its obvious some forum members routinely ride bareback, others never ride bareback. I understand why the bareback guys may not wish to post on the topic, but I'd be interested in reading what they have to say. Likewise the opposite point of view would be good to read. I've read the safe sex forums and am surprised there isn't a more informative dialog on this topic on these strings. So much is written about safe sex in the media. I'd like to read what the guys in the trenches, so to speak, have to say.

Pete Benetar

02-10-13, 21:09

I understand why the bareback guys may not wish to post on the topic, but I'd be interested in reading what they have to say. Likewise the opposite point of view would be good to read. I've read the safe sex forums and am surprised there isn't a more informative dialog on this topic on these strings. So much is written about safe sex in the media. I'd like to read what the guys in the trenches, so to speak, have to say.I think this has been covered quite a bit in the Safe Sex threads. It often gets emotional devolving into pro and con inflamed posts you just need to sort through and I've seen pages on different PI boards deleted or transferred properly to the Safe Sex mb. Maybe best to read through Safe Sex and post queries there.

Paul Kausch

02-10-13, 21:45

I think this has been covered quite a bit in the Safe Sex threads. It often gets emotional devolving into pro and con inflamed posts you just need to sort through and I've seen pages on different PI boards deleted or transferred properly to the Safe Sex mb. Maybe best to read through Safe Sex and post queries there.Once again, thanks for the help. I'll take another look at the safe sex threads. My recollection is consistent with your characterization, most posts were vitriolic attacks against people on the other side of the issue. I seriously doubt if I'll change my ways. Worrying about contracting something,"contributing to the problem." etc. Isn't conducive to satisfying sex.

Rick Rock

02-11-13, 06:28

Japanese in Thailand?Yeah there are some, but like I said not the most. Almost double the number of Chinese and the numbers of Malaysian Indians holy hell.

1 million visits. How many of those are repeats? Japan has 130, 000, 000 in country and several million outside of the country. Pretty high I guess, but I don't run into them too much. Would be happy to, like to practice my Japanese and tell them to stop spending so much money. Actually goes over well sometimes when I tell them how much less I spend and still get equal entertainment.

I don't know about Koreans, but there are a lot. Read once 50, 000 Koreans live in Thailand full time. Then at least a million tourist visits. Interesting now that Thais are also going to Korea in higher numbers:

"Thanks to 'hallyu, ' or the Korean wave sweeping Southeast Asia, more and more Thai tourists are coming to Korea.

"According to the Korea Tourism Organization (KTO) , the state-run promoter of Korean tourism overseas, Tuesday, Thais now rank the sixth largest tourist group visiting Korea after the Japanese, Chinese, Americans, Taiwanese and Filipinos.

"As of the end of November, the number of tourists from Thailand jumped 20. 7 percent from a year earlier to 277, 000.

"Among Southeast Asian nations, only Malaysian visitors increased at a higher rate of 44. 9 percent to 102, 000.

"KTO also said that per-capita-spending among Thai tourists reached $1, 392 in 2010, higher than Japanese tourists' average of $1, 070.

http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2011/12/113_100273.html

Would love to know where these people are staying $1, 070 for a holiday in Korea? I usually spend 3-5000. I guess mongering adds up.

Crazy4Thai

02-11-13, 11:33

I'd appreciate tips on condoms. I use the Crown Skinless Skin condoms. Even though they're better than standards such as Trojans, they really diminish the sensation. So, I'd appreciate recommendations.More than once I've been called "Obvious Guy" so please excuse me if this too is obvious.

My satisfaction increased considerably when I learned to put lubrication inside the condom.

PinkPearl

02-11-13, 15:28

Paul Kausch,

The folllowing url lists various Sagami and Okamoto polyurethane condoms that fit your description. I've seen them recommended by punters on other sites, but never tried them myself. One comment said the large size was ok for an average size caucasian but not a large guy, though you might like to give it a test drive.

http://www.amazon.com/Sagami-Original-0-02-Condom-Pack/dp/B002E1KYW2

From the Thailand Safe Sex thread:

I like this commercial for one of the. 02mm condoms made by Sagami. Find it at at e-condom punkt org then tack on / product_detail. Php? P_id=1_37&tr=ad&gclid=CN7yvsnTmaACFdx05QodLzqmeA.

I think the difference between the Okamoto and Sagami is the girth. Okamoto is 55mm and Sagami is 58mm.

From what I can tell anything over 55mm according to this website is "large": condomking punkt eu then / wpt / view / helpfaq / size-guide-51100

So it seems only the bigger guys are catered to.07-22-12 16:29.

http://www.002.com.au/

PinkPearl

02-11-13, 16:33

From time to time I do think about going bareback. I'd certainly enjoy it more. I've read up on STDs so I know the odds of contracting an STD; I know with a little luck I could have a long string of bareback fucks without contracting an STD; I know if I did most cases are treatable; I know as I'm not out looking for katoeys to bang my ass the risk of contracting HIV / AIDS is low. Some working girls and semi-pros won't allow you to ride bareback. It's easier to find them in the Philippines (thank you Mr. Pope) , harder in other places, especially Europe, North American, in Thailand they're harder to find than in the Philippines. I'm under the impression the promise of a bigger tip changes their attitudes about bareback. Everyone has their price. Its obvious some forum members routinely ride bareback, others never ride bareback. I understand why the bareback guys may not wish to post on the topic, but I'd be interested in reading what they have to say. Likewise the opposite point of view would be good to read. I've read the safe sex forums and am surprised there isn't a more informative dialog on this topic on these strings. So much is written about safe sex in the media. I'd like to read what the guys in the trenches, so to speak, have to say.I like BB & Safe Sex, so I use other types of Safe Sex methods besides condoms to give me similar protection from STIs, especially HIV since I have little concern about anything else. In fact, apart from HIV, I worry more about getting a girl pregnant than other STIs. But practicing withdrawal at a very high standard is about as effective as condoms in that regard, as well as safer for the girl, in case I have unknowingly contracted anything.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe_sex

Personally I enjoy BB more than using condoms, as is the case with most guys. I can generally last as long as I want either way, which usually means I'll go for hours and not cum, by choice. But if going BB resulted in cumming much more quickly, then I might prefer condoms for the advantage of providing the greater overall pleasure. In that sense the guys who find they cannot cum during sex for a long time, if at all, are blessed and considered to be what many women would love to have as a partner. Why else would delayed ejaculation be a problem, unless a couple is interested in making a baby, or the hooker is getting sore or wants move on to the next trick, in which case I just move on to the next hooker.

Rick Rock

02-11-13, 20:10

Okamoto is about the best there is but ONLY when you buy them in the west. The ones sold in Japan, Korea, Thailand, Cambodia are damn tiny. They don't go all the way down even on my average sized prick. Pack some from home. You can get them online at an extremely low rate. They have models as thin as 0. 2 mm.

Paul Kausch

02-11-13, 21:04

Rick & Pink: thanks for the information guys. The Crown Skinless Skins are by Okamoto. I buy them in bulk from a condom distributor in the USA. The thinnest Okomoto's I've found are latex and. 047mm. They fit fine. As I said I'm only a little larger than average for a North American. I'll look for them in. 02mm thickness. The Sagami's are polyurethane and. 02mm. I've read the material makes a significant difference. I've seen them on Amazon and have noted that some reviewers say they are too tight. I found a company in Australia that sells them in a larger size.

http://www.002.com.au/

My issue is 12 cost $39, plus S&H. I might spend that much if they are worth it. But as I've said in other posts I'm toying with the idea of going bareback whenever possible. I have no great fear of contracting an STD (except for HIV / AIDS. Which I know is less likely) , but I do worry about spreading it around if I do catch something. My mongering tends to be feast and famine. I might go for a month with nothing because I'm up in the Andes working on a project and there's nothing worth fucking around; then I'll be in a city with a good mongering scene for two weeks where I'll fuck a dozen or more different women. At least I don't have to worry about getting the girl pregnant, but I'll read about withdrawal as a method of reducing the risk of spreading an infection. I always thought the pre-ejaculatory fluids could transmit an STD.

Thanks again guys, you're a big help!

Zero Dude

02-12-13, 02:51

Rick Rock

02-12-13, 06:17

Why would anything be shut down? If the Philippines shut down at the threat of natural disaster it would be boarded up 365 days a year. This is a land of regular monsoon, floods, typhoons, volcanoes, mudslides and earthquakes.

Rick Rock

02-12-13, 06:24

I don't know about Australia. Seems you guys pay high shipping for everything, at least that's what some Aussie guys have told me.

The 0. 02 Okamoto I get online. 12 for $25 free shipping.

The 0. 04 I get online. 24 for $25 free shipping.

The Crowns which aren't as good but still aren't bad are online. 100 for $15 free shipping.

Used to use Crowns. Now use 0. 02 or 0. 04.

If you use a cash back credit card, shop a site like Drugstores. Com and something like Ebates. Com you can end up getting them 25 or 30 percent off. Don't know how much of that is available in Oz.

Red Kilt

02-12-13, 08:43

Well I am a hobbyist that wants to venture out. Also want to maintain. My status with skyteam. I plan on going to Angles city around July or August for about 5-6 nights. Are things shut down during the season? How bad are the flights from MNL? I don't think I can fly into Clark from the states.Do more homework, and read more posts on this whole forum.

Take half a day to read up about the place you are visiting.

July / August is still hot here post high summer. A few early typhoons might come through but they rarely affect Angeles City except for a heap of tropical rain.

What do you mean by "how bad are the flights from Manila"?

No idea what you mean. They use really big planes with jet engines here, and there are flight attendants on board too. Sometimes flights are bumpy and sometimes they are smooth as silk. They fly all over the Philippines too and even to other countries as well.

WestCoast1

02-12-13, 15:49

Cunning Stunt

02-13-13, 08:00

Econo Tech

02-13-13, 08:34

Has anyone else noticed how those glorified doormen and table clearers, otherwise known as Filipino security guards are armed but pitifully short on ammo. I always check their otherwise overloaded belts for rounds. Quite often they have no spare bullets at all, but mostly they have one round as this guy did. Once I saw one mad, bad, brave dude guarding the cream cakes at Goldilocks who had two spare bullets on his belt. He sure looked a mean muvver, too. Wouldn't try and run off with a cream bun with him around!And did you ever wonder why rarely the security get into shoot-outs, when there is a hold up?

And BTW, I met a junior inspector in PNP, who said. Trust me I am not bluffing.that for this Region 3 budget being low, the officers are encouraged to buy their own vehicle for patrol purposes etc. And a subsidised loan is available, accordingly. I was also wondering what the heck they do with the PNP Budget.

I asked him, when I saw some non-standard gear inside the Isuzu Double Cab he owns.

I was tempted to ask if any gun shot damages are covered.

Red Kilt

02-13-13, 11:22

I was in a branch of Jollibees yesterday morning. Sad, I know, but their egg & sausage pandesal rolls are to die for and much superior to those crap McMuffin efforts which always seem to give me indigestion.

Has anyone else noticed how those glorified doormen and table clearers, otherwise known as Filipino security guards are armed but pitifully short on ammo. I always check their otherwise overloaded belts for rounds. Quite often they have no spare bullets at all, but mostly they have one round as this guy did. Once I saw one mad, bad, brave dude guarding the cream cakes at Goldilocks who had two spare bullets on his belt. He sure looked a mean muvver, too. Wouldn't try and run off with a cream bun with him around!

I know that the reason for this is apparently because they have to buy their own ammo themselves out of their pitifully meager wages. I assume that their weapons are loaded (but maybe not) and probably with a single round. So if the outlet was attacked by 3 desperate masked men intent on stealing all the Jolliburgers, our poor guard would be able only to shoot the first one and then would have to invite the other two to play a round of Russian roulette!Funny one CS.

Good pic too.

I thought you had deduced by now that the security guards in most places are employed to stop the staff from stealing stuff. I guess they also double up and try to intercept any big spenders from stealing the plastic fork and spoon as well.

Watch how they frisk any staff member leaving the premises (particularly at SM). The gay employees especially enjoy it. I was told that staff in most places steal far more than the masa who stumble into the air-conditioned malls for some blessed relief from the noon-day sun. Ever wonder why a fabric store needs a fully-uniformed guard standing alert at the door? My son asked a perceptive question when he visited last year and murmured out loud "WTF do security guards think about all day?"

His rhetorical question went unanswered but got me thinking.

At least CS' "glorified doormen and table clearers" must feel they are doing something useful.

Mr Enternational

02-13-13, 13:31

I assume that their weapons are loaded (but maybe not) and probably with a single round. So if the outlet was attacked by 3 desperate masked men intent on stealing all the Jolliburgers, our poor guard would be able only to shoot the first one and then would have to invite the other two to play a round of Russian roulette!Well the one I saw in McDonald's in AC yesterday didn't even have a weapon. He had a first aid kit and a flashlight on his belt.

FruitNinja

02-13-13, 13:38

Funny one CS.

Good pic too. His rhetorical question went unanswered but got me thinking.

At least CS' "glorified doormen and table clearers" must feel they are doing something useful.I think the chick to the right of the security guard has a definite eye on CS."Ohhhh look at that studly poriner."

JackTheLad2

02-13-13, 15:03

Well the one I saw in McDonald's in AC yesterday didn't even have a weapon. He had a first aid kit and a flashlight on his belt.The first aid kit is in case someone had a beefburger with horsemeat in it

The torch was to find the beef! LOL (Sorry - UK joke)

Going Low

02-14-13, 12:02

KyCuriosity

02-14-13, 18:44

Greetings everyone,

It's been a couple years since I've been back to PI. I only have one question that I would like a few experienced travelers to answer. The only time that I can travel to PI this year is in the middle of July. I looked online and most websites say that the rainy season peaks in July. Is this time completely horrible to monger? Is the area going to be shut down any due to massive amounts of rain? I'm flying directly into Clark. I was going to make a short trip to Subic in the middle of the week to break the boring down times.

Any suggestions or comments from you all?

Bonkers1

02-14-13, 19:31

Marconista

02-14-13, 21:20

She can easily send a friend to spy on you when you go to Cebu. And then its all kapute, di ba. You know that?

I also have a job which pays good, I will stay 1-2 days in Cebu almost every week.

I have a regular girlfriend 20 year old girlfriend in Cebu that I'm supporting and paying also the studies.

Sometimes I feel that this bubble will burst at any time, but for the past times I've managed to keep everything together.

Econo Tech

02-15-13, 03:01

She can easily send a friend to spy on you when you go to Cebu. And then its all kapute, di ba. You know that?Not likely for her to send a friend, but Pinays can sense such stuff, and will corner you at the wrong moment and insist and with conviction will demand that you admit your truancy. And they can come on so strongly that is can sound like they did have a Private detective. LOL.

So you give up the game yourself. No need to send a friend LOL

Mr Enternational

02-15-13, 07:01

Ok I have to ask I see westcoast and asian rain always haveing pics of women they were with and I think how many woman have they had. I must admit I am jellous of them and I look forward to the 1 week a year I can do what they do everyday. T hank you for all the pics and reports I really do enjoy them allI stopped thinking about it around 300. Way over 1000 now I'm sure. But the only ones that really matter are the first and the last.

Rick Rock

02-15-13, 08:01

Just as a shortened version.

I'm married to 26 year old girl already for 3. 5 years and living in Manila, I'm kind of happy with our life.

We have money, several businesses that earn nicely and those are handled by my wife.

I also have a job which pays good, I will stay 1-2 days in Cebu almost every week.

I have a regular girlfriend 20 year old girlfriend in Cebu that I'm supporting and paying also the studies.

Sometimes I feel that this bubble will burst at any time, but for the past times I've managed to keep everything together.

I don't answer txt messages or calls at home, only at work and my gf knows the situation so she's very sport and not even jealous.

I'm just wondering how many guys there are in a same situation? I just find it easy if you're running after st girls, but having a regular around is hard.There's really only one answer: Make sure the woman is fine with your extra activities before you marry her. Otherwise, you'll eventually be fucked (and not in the way we come here to talk about). Made sure my wife was fully fine with me fucking around, maintaining side piece GFs in different countries and cities and mongering before I married her. There's no other way that would have happened. Lucky for me her only complaint is usually that she couldn't participate.

I really don't see how or why you'd marry otherwise, unless you're looking for someone to give half of your assets too (in which case, may I suggest a poor family in Haiti or perhaps Cambodia would be more worthy recipients).

Rick Rock

02-15-13, 08:03

Ok I have to ask I see westcoast and asian rain always haveing pics of women they were with and I think how many woman have they had. I must admit I am jellous of them and I look forward to the 1 week a year I can do what they do everyday. T hank you for all the pics and reports I really do enjoy them allThat's why you've got to keep a journal. It can be as simple as name, short description and where you met. With the advent of cell phones, it's easy to keep at least one picture too. Good for reminiscing later in life. If I didn't keep them, I would have probably forgotten hundreds by now.

Hutsori

02-15-13, 13:06

There's really only one answer: Make sure the woman is fine with your extra activities before you marry her. Otherwise, you'll eventually be fucked (and not in the way we come here to talk about). Made sure my wife was fully fine with me fucking around, maintaining side piece GFs in different countries and cities and mongering before I married her. There's no other way that would have happened. Lucky for me her only complaint is usually that she couldn't participate.Rick, you have someone special there; I especially like the last sentence. You have an enviable arrangement. Bravo your life. Sorry if this is too personal; I'm curious to know whether she has the same opportunities for extra-marital activities but (at this time) has decided to forgo them. Is there a requirement that she has to be attended to by you whenever she wishes? Is she genuinely cool with the money you spend elsewhere? In my discussions with Asian ladies what they are most pissed off re infidelity is the removal of money from the household budget. Do you control the family finances?

I've recently started an NSA with a Filipina who is unhappily married to a foreigner. He's been stepping out for years and she's fed up. She's forgiven repeatedly and his promises have been broken... repeatedly. It's purely vengeance on her part.

Bonkers1

02-15-13, 14:17

I stopped thinking about it around 300. Way over 1000 now I'm sure. But the only ones that really matter are the first and the last.WOW over 1000 and it never gets old never or never get tired of it. If there was a medal for that you would get the gold. I see you had women from all over the world do you prefer 1 country over another? What nationality is the best

X Man

02-15-13, 14:53

Over 20 years ago back in the old hometown, hanging out with the old friends and a converstion came up about how lucky we'd been over the years. Most of the guys said 3 or 4, but the guy who had been the super stud came up with 7. I was flabbergasted and a bit emarrassed. I had been a sailor and had enjoyed a girl in almost every port. And the weeks at the port at Subic bay was one or two or three in a day. So, when it was my turn I halved my number and said 30 or 40. They ridiculed me.they didn't believe me. LOL. Damn, that was a lot of women ago.

Ok I have to ask I see westcoast and asian rain always haveing pics of women they were with and I think how many woman have they had. I must admit I am jellous of them and I look forward to the 1 week a year I can do what they do everyday. T hank you for all the pics and reports I really do enjoy them all

Cunning Stunt

02-15-13, 15:37

WOW over 1000 and it never gets old never or never get tired of it. If there was a medal for that you would get the gold. I see you had women from all over the world do you prefer 1 country over another? What nationality is the bestLOL...WTF. Its a little like comparative dick measuring, we all add a strategic inch or two. And no matter how many bought and paid for shags we have had, we are still well behind your average rock star or pro footballer, who got theirs for free. However, without trying to boast, I reckon a conservative estimate of 1,500 over the last 30 years. This is why I now insist on pics as it is the only way that I can recall a girl when she contacts me a few months later. My photo archives (dating back 6-7 years) now number over 300 separate encounters!

Rick Rock

02-15-13, 16:14

Rick, you have someone special there; I especially like the last sentence. You have an enviable arrangement. Bravo your life. Sorry if this is too personal; I'm curious to know whether she has the same opportunities for extra-marital activities but (at this time) has decided to forgo them. Is there a requirement that she has to be attended to by you whenever she wishes? Is she genuinely cool with the money you spend elsewhere? In my discussions with Asian ladies what they are most pissed off re infidelity is the removal of money from the household budget. Do you control the family finances?

I've recently started an NSA with a Filipina who is unhappily married to a foreigner. He's been stepping out for years and she's fed up. She's forgiven repeatedly and his promises have been broken. Repeatedly. It's purely vengeance on her part.Thanks. I agree she's amazing. At the same time she's the only thing acceptable to me as a wife, so I guess I have high standards.

We swing, together and apart. She can do her own thing too. Strangely enough she usually doesn't. She says she prefers it with me and that it's difficult to find someone safe and sane for a sex only on demand thing. She has one regular guy in his early 20's now, but he's a bit of a punk. Had some regulars before who couldn't handle being nothing more than stunt cock when I was on the road.

I control the finances, hers, mine and the shared money. Reason being that I'm comfortable and experienced with it and she's not. She doesn't mind me spending money when we have it. The few times I'm low on cash and still doing pay for play it has caused some friction. That's about the only friction we've had (besides her being a little slighted when I say I want to travel alone, and not for business). Still, many years in we get along great and are very open. She wants to know about all my encounters, especially if I have pictures or video (harder and harder to get now unfortunately).

It didn't start like this. I remember when there was an insane jealousy early on. Luckily we matured and began to talk about things and figure them out. It all started when one night during sex she told me how much she wanted to suck on some big fat tits! Went from threesomes with girls to swapping to me returning to my old working girl mongering ways and telling her all the steamy details during our next sex session. If it wouldn't have evolved how it did I never would have married her, even though she was making more money than me when we tied the knot.

Got to have my freedom.

The hardest thing about our relationship has been finding bisexual working women okay with playing with us together!

Rick Rock

02-15-13, 16:18

LOL.WTF. Its a little like comparative dick measuring, we all add a strategic inch or two. And no matter how many bought and paid for shags we have had, we are still well behind your average rock star or pro footballer, who got theirs for free. However, without trying to boast, I reckon a conservative estimate of 1,500 over the last 30 years. This is why I now insist on pics as it is the only way that I can recall a girl when she contacts me a few months later. My photo archives (dating back 6-7 years) now number over 300 separate encounters!Partly why I keep a journal, to remember how we hooked up. I remember doing a kind of audit (sounds weird I know) when I hit 500 a few years ago to see how many for paid for and how many were not. At the time it was about 75% no cash handed over. I'd guess in the years since it's shifted in the other direction 75/25. I'm just getting too lazy, plus I'm on the road so much swinging isn't as regular. Finally the repeat sessions with regulars that are mostly free don't add to the ultimate numbers, so things are skewed by the amount of one off short timers.

Bonkers1

02-15-13, 20:39

Luvpuss

02-16-13, 00:24

1000 or more is a lot for 1 man i just hope i never have a woman and she said to me congradulations your my 1000 customer want to daty or just go bareback haha well maybe i had someone that had that many men i am just glad she did not tell memany of these girls have much more than 1000. there is a girl at [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)'s in bangkok that has been there several years and i estimate she has sucked about 4, 000 cocks.

i have over 1000 also. at age 58 and doing this for awhile it can add up easily. but, i never get tired of it. i am home now in usa, and banged 2 ladies today from local websites. i actually want more pussy the older i get.

Chocha Monger

02-16-13, 01:34

We swing, together and apart. She can do her own thing too. Strangely enough she usually doesn't. She says she prefers it with me and that it's difficult to find someone safe and sane for a sex only on demand thing. She has one regular guy in his early 20's now, but he's a bit of a punk. Had some regulars before who couldn't handle being nothing more than stunt cock when I was on the road.The key point is that she can ride strange stallion dick as hard as John Loftus rode Sir Barton in the Triple Crown. This model of marriage would not work for most mongers. A lot of philandering husbands would absolutely have a stroke if the little wife came home after a long hard ride, her gaping pussy drenched and dripping sperms after a gangbang with some young studs.

I know someone who was actually into that. He would take his imported wife out to swing clubs, let her get wasted and wild. First, it was just swaps with other couples using condoms and being careful. Then it evolved into multiple males on female gangbangs. His only condition was that the guys cover their stumps with latex. Then one day he had to stop filming the action to go take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). When he got back the guys were gone and his wife was slumped over the bed in an alcoholic stupor will gobs of cream pies oozing from her pussy. He was pissed! He cussed her out about it but that was all he could do.

Eventually, she started doing it solo and one of her bulls got her hooked on rocks. She got knocked up in one of her gangbangs, hasn't a clue as to who scored the goal. Well, she insisted on having the baby. The baby is black. Neither she nor he is black. I asked him how he was going to explain the new addition to his family. He said they agreed to tell their parents and other relatives that they adopted a black baby. I still get a good laugh asking him how his youngest son is doing. It seems that he has accepted the baby as his own. That is something open marriage mongers might want to think about. This guy thought he had it all figured but he never saw that one coming. Anyway, he says that he is happy given all that has happened. That is all that matters in the end isn't it?

Red Kilt

02-16-13, 02:47

I put this on the "Cebu" thread but it is probably worth putting here too.

There is a very useful book available from National Book Store called "Understanding Filipino Values, a Management Approach, by Tomas D. Andres.

The book is very useful for people engaged in business dealings in the Philippines, and this is, after all, what we are doing, even if it is "monkey business".

It explains lots of cultural aspects of Filipino behavior but regarding the oft-quoted "it's up to you", he says the following and I think we all should take note of it.

'Foreigners have frequently pointed out that equivocation, 'white lies', and euphemistic discourse to avoid unpleasant truths are characteristically Filipino, making an attempt to not embarrass or displease other persons. The Filipino anticipates and gives the expected answer, avoiding if possible a negative reply.

Hence, a question by a person seeking a positive answer concerning for example the quantity of payment for services rendered will invariably be answered with 'It's up to you. ' '

Mr Enternational

02-16-13, 03:47

1000 or more is a lot for 1 man I just hope I never have a woman and she said to me congradulations your my 1000 customer want to DATY or just go bareback haha Well maybe I had someone that had that many men I am just glad she did not tell me1000 isn't shit when you consider it is someone's job. How many emails have you sent on your job? Or how many light bulbs have you changed? Or how many customers have you resolved issues for? You have to remember they don't get paid by the hour; they get paid by the dick. The lower the number of dicks they take, the less money they have. And they are there to make money. Do the math, even 1000 dicks is not going to make them rich.

Mr Enternational

02-16-13, 03:59

She got knocked up in one of her gangbangs, hasn't a clue as to who scored the goal. Well, she insisted on having the baby. The baby is black. Neither she nor he is black. I asked him how he was going to explain the new addition to his family. He said they agreed to tell their parents and other relatives that they adopted a black baby. I still get a good laugh asking him how his youngest son is doing. It seems that he has accepted the baby as his own. That is something open marriage mongers might want to think about. This guy thought he had it all figured but he never saw that one coming. Anyway, he says that he is happy given all that has happened. That is all that matters in the end isn't it?I the pappy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wGzR9udZHk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rUtrEtVHLAA

Rick Rock

02-16-13, 07:56

The key point is that she can ride strange stallion dick as hard as John Loftus rode Sir Barton in the Triple Crown. This model of marriage would not work for most mongers. A lot of philandering husbands would absolutely have a stroke if the little wife came home after a long hard ride, her gaping pussy drenched and dripping sperms after a gangbang with some young studs.That's because they're misogynist control freaks and hypocrites, an unfortunately common feature among mongers. Thankfully, I don't suffer this mental disorder.

I know someone who was actually into that. He would take his imported wife out to swing clubs, let her get wasted and wild. First, it was just swaps with other couples using condoms and being careful. Then it evolved into multiple males on female gangbangs. His only condition was that the guys cover their stumps with latex. Then one day he had to stop filming the action to go take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). When he got back the guys were gone and his wife was slumped over the bed in an alcoholic stupor will gobs of cream pies oozing from her pussy. He was pissed! He cussed her out about it but that was all he could do.

Eventually, she started doing it solo and one of her bulls got her hooked on rocks. She got knocked up in one of her gangbangs, hasn't a clue as to who scored the goal. Well, she insisted on having the baby. The baby is black. Neither she nor he is black. I asked him how he was going to explain the new addition to his family. He said they agreed to tell their parents and other relatives that they adopted a black baby. I still get a good laugh asking him how his youngest son is doing. It seems that he has accepted the baby as his own. That is something open marriage mongers might want to think about. This guy thought he had it all figured but he never saw that one coming. Anyway, he says that he is happy given all that has happened. That is all that matters in the end isn't it?Sounds like he was into cuckolding and the despicable world of race play. About as related to the personal freedom in my marriage as heroin is to mary jane.

Thanks for the anecdote!

FruitNinja

02-16-13, 10:50

The key point is that she can ride strange stallion dick as hard as John Loftus rode Sir Barton in the Triple Crown. This model of marriage would not work for most mongers. A lot of philandering husbands would absolutely have a stroke if the little wife came home after a long hard ride, her gaping pussy drenched and dripping sperms after a gangbang with some young studs.I'm afraid I'm still going to have to go with Rick Rock has one hell of an imagination. Has anyone ever met this character out in the field? My guess is "no."

RR: "Hey, Honey, I got to go to Asia and f*k 30 women in 21 days but you just wait home for me."

RR Wife: "OK Rick you big studly man, I'll be waiting right here when you get back, my pussy all clean and smelling pretty for you." Rick honey, can I have a few dollars until you get back, I know you need it for hookers honey but just enough for food baby."

RR: "Baby, I'm not sure how many hookers I'm going to barfine, why you got to be so selfish." "Aw heck, here's $20, make it last."

RR Wife: "Aww baby, I'm so happy to be married to such a generous man."

Yeah, this is going to work in the good ole USA. Like in every other post our man is out there being the super star stud that he is. He defies life.

And if this is really true, who in the world would want to be married to a woman with so little self asteem to let herself be treated like that. I treat hookers better. Trust me I don't find myself thinking "that guy has it made" more like "that poor woman, what happened to her to let herself be treated like that."

I've always questioned my lifestyle because quite frankly it's a form of addiction, I don't speak for anyone but myself, but if you read the classic definition and look at most monger behavior, it's what it is. I've done a lot of soul searching about it over the years yet I still participate. The lifestyle your talking about defies all sound mental or spiritual ethic. Almost sociopathic. This and your other posts in the forum.

I don't know what's more scary, that someone can make this stuff up, or that someone actually live like this.

Rick Rock

02-16-13, 12:29

I'm afraid I'm still going to have to go with Rick Rock has one hell of an imagination. Has anyone ever met this character out in the field? My guess is "no."

RR: "Hey, Honey, I got to go to Asia and f*k 30 women in 21 days but you just wait home for me."

RR Wife: "OK Rick you big studly man, I'll be waiting right here when you get back, my pussy all clean and smelling pretty for you." Rick honey, can I have a few dollars until you get back, I know you need it for hookers honey but just enough for food baby."

RR: "Baby, I'm not sure how many hookers I'm going to barfine, why you got to be so selfish." "Aw heck, here's $20, make it last."

RR Wife: "Aww baby, I'm so happy to be married to such a generous man."

Yeah, this is going to work in the good ole USA. Like in every other post our man is out there being the super star stud that he is. He defies life.

And if this is really true, who in the world would want to be married to a woman with so little self asteem to let herself be treated like that. I treat hookers better. Trust me I don't find myself thinking "that guy has it made" more like "that poor woman, what happened to her to let herself be treated like that."

I've always questioned my lifestyle because quite frankly it's a form of addiction, I don't speak for anyone but myself, but if you read the classic definition and look at most monger behavior, it's what it is. I've done a lot of soul searching about it over the years yet I still participate. The lifestyle your talking about defies all sound mental or spiritual ethic. Almost sociopathic. This and your other posts in the forum.

I don't know what's more scary, that someone can make this stuff up, or that someone actually live like this.I have met members here, even did a wife swap with one. So yeah, you're totally wrong again (as you are on the "addiction" and most else you post).

Sorry that you can't get laid without paying for, doesn't mean that no one else can. Sorry that you haven't got a good relationship and that you've never experienced the fun of swinging (sure all the millions who do are sociopaths, as were the aristocracies of ancient Rome and Greece who participated in regular orgies).

Sorry too that you think the modern invention of monogamous marriage has anything to do with a natural state of things. Looks to me like you'd be better off reading books than this forum. Maybe you should go to church. You sound like one of the wackos who belongs in one.

Thanks for keeping up on all my posts as usual though. Feels good to have an obsessed fan.

FruitNinja

02-16-13, 14:31

I have met members here, even did a wife swap with one. So yeah, you're totally wrong again (as you are on the "addiction" and most else you post).

Sorry that you can't get laid without paying for, doesn't mean that no one else can. Sorry that you haven't got a good relationship and that you've never experienced the fun of swinging (sure all the millions who do are sociopaths, as were the aristocracies of ancient Rome and Greece who participated in regular orgies).

Sorry too that you think the modern invention of monogamous marriage has anything to do with a natural state of things. Looks to me like you'd be better off reading books than this forum. Maybe you should go to church. You sound like one of the wackos who belongs in one.

Thanks for keeping up on all my posts as usual though. Feels good to have an obsessed fan.You're a legend in your own mind dude. Look at me Look at me! I bet 10K that half the sh*t that spews from your keyboard isn't reality. You're an easy target because you never stop telling people how much you know and how great you are. Problem is you can't keep a good flow a straight story. You're stories are full of holes. You make sh*t up as you go. I just get a kick out of pointing it out. No hard feelings. You're an easy target.

Chocha Monger

02-16-13, 19:57

That's because they're misogynist control freaks and hypocrites, an unfortunately common feature among mongers. Thankfully, I don't suffer this mental disorder.

Sounds like he was into cuckolding and the despicable world of race play. About as related to the personal freedom in my marriage as heroin is to mary jane."Cuckolding," that was the term he used to describe his fetish. His favorite niche was "blacks bulls on white cow." Don't know about any correlations to your marriage. Simply shared the case study with the board just in case anyone is considering entering that lifestyle solely for sexually access to other women outside of their marriage. It's just one example of how things can go wrong. It's not much different from guys who get their wives into bisexual play in order to have threesomes only to lose her to a manipulative bull dike.

Bob Bowie

02-16-13, 20:40

Tiger 888

02-17-13, 01:06

You're a legend in your own mind dude. Look at me Look at me! I bet 10K that half the sh*t that spews from your keyboard isn't reality. You're an easy target because you never stop telling people how much you know and how great you are. Problem is you can't keep a good flow a straight story. You're stories are full of holes. You make sh*t up as you go. I just get a kick out of pointing it out. No hard feelings. You're an easy target.callignamesHesays

Red Kilt

02-18-13, 08:18

Sorry guys,

Sex is not an effective way to burn calories. Enjoyable of course but not effective.

http://ph.she.yahoo.com/sexercise-burns-paltry-20-calories-per-session-105000327.html

Pete Benetar

02-18-13, 08:33

Sorry guys,

Sex is not an effective way to burn calories. Enjoyable of course but not effective.

http://ph.she.yahoo.com/sexercise-burns-paltry-20-calories-per-session-105000327.html

(from link) a biostatistician at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, tested the "sexercise" theory. That sex can be exercise. But found that sex lasted only SIX MINUTES on average, burning a paltry 20 or so caloriesFinally, a reason to celebrate delayed ejaculation.

PinkPearl

02-18-13, 21:51

Finally, a reason to celebrate delayed ejaculation.Was there ever a reason given not to celebrate it?

Luvpuss

02-19-13, 01:33

I have been hitting the dating sites for my trip next month. Mainly Filipino Cupid. These girls seem much more desperate than the Thai girls.

Many very attractive girls sending me messages. I had 100 interests in the first 2 days.

There are some scams though. I have seen 2 model quality girls listed under several different people. Probably stolen photos being used.

Then, there are the girls that want to chat. I have had 6 very attractive (from the photo) tell me they are Filipino but are in Ghana with their sick mother and need help. WTF? Am I that stupid?

Then, the very atttactive ones that after a few contacts ask for money.

But 90% seem legit. Some very attractive girls willing to meet me. Many more than Thailand sites.

Pete Benetar

02-19-13, 02:38

Mainly Filipino Cupid. Then, there are the girls that want to chat. I have had 6 very attractive (from the photo) tell me they are Filipino but are in Ghana with their siCurious how many of the six had more than one photo. One of the reasons I prefer FC is that they / you can post more than one photo and I always have a baseline suspicion of the profiles with only one pic. But maybe I'll start chatting up more of the one pic pinays and look them up next time I'm in Ghana. Most of the internet cafes are chok full of young dudes every time I walk by one in Accra.

Manny51

02-20-13, 17:32

Hi everyone!

Planning to visit the PI in late March, but I wanted some recommendations from frequent visitors on stuff other than nightlife. Having a hard time planning because all the best, most famous stuff is really far apart, and everything I research transport, everything is a 12 hour bus ride. No trains. I think that I would cut my own wrists on any bus ride longer than 3 hours. So if I am going to coup myself up in an iron coffin, I want to know if it is worth it.

The Rice Terraces up north. Was thinking about spending a day hiking hiking from Banue to Batad. But the bus ride seems really hard, and nothing else to see or break up the trip along the way. Seems like a long way to go for one day. Worth it?

Donsol. Whale shark snorkelling. This is really what is attracting me to the Phils. And I can fly to Legaspi. Seems like I would have to dedicate a few days to ensure that I would get lucky at least once. Worth it?

Bacuit and Palawan . Far off the main path and no nightlife. But the pictures are "The Beach"-esque and gorgeous. Worth it?

Those are the main three. Also thinking surfing in Siargao, but that's much lower on the list.

Thanks!

Tally Wacker

02-20-13, 18:05

It looks like the Wale Shark snokeling is seasonal and there are rules regarding swimming with them.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Attraction_Review-g1016344-d1011868-Reviews-Donsol_Whale_Shark_Interaction-Donsol_Bicol_Region_Luzon.html

I've been to Palawan a few times and its great for snorkeling, diving and exploring. I brought a girlfriend with me but there is a recent field report about p4p in Coron.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=1378630&viewfull=1#post1378630

I would leave your surfboard at home.

Hi everyone!

Planning to visit the PI in late March, but I wanted some recommendations from frequent visitors on stuff other than nightlife. Having a hard time planning because all the best, most famous stuff is really far apart, and everything I research transport, everything is a 12 hour bus ride. No trains. I think that I would cut my own wrists on any bus ride longer than 3 hours. So if I am going to coup myself up in an iron coffin, I want to know if it is worth it.

The Rice Terraces up north. Was thinking about spending a day hiking hiking from Banue to Batad. But the bus ride seems really hard, and nothing else to see or break up the trip along the way. Seems like a long way to go for one day. Worth it?

Donsol. Whale shark snorkelling. This is really what is attracting me to the Phils. And I can fly to Legaspi. Seems like I would have to dedicate a few days to ensure that I would get lucky at least once. Worth it?

Bacuit and Palawan. Far off the main path and no nightlife. But the pictures are "The Beach"-esque and gorgeous. Worth it?

Those are the main three. Also thinking surfing in Siargao, but that's much lower on the list.

Thanks!

Fredje1961

02-20-13, 18:42

Was thinking about spending a day hiking hiking from Banue to Batad.

Thanks!Bus ride is OK if no unexpected events such as land slides (which in our case added 8 hours to the trip) and if you manage to sleep in a bus (I do).

The actual trip to Batad is among the high points in my life. I thought it was fabulous and well worth the hardship of the bus ride. Guess it's all a matter of personal preferences.

Fred

Riddler

02-21-13, 01:00

The Rice Terraces up north.Donsol. Whale shark snorkelling. Bacuit and Palawan .I've experienced and enjoyed all three. Per your stated aversion to long bus rides, would strike Banaue Rice Terraces from the list. In Donsol, I was fortunate to swim 4 or 5 times with the whale sharks during my one-day boat excursion but appears that sightings are hit / miss. My personal favorite has been Palawan and in particular, a 4 day. 3 night banka boat trip from El Nido to Palawan. Didn't score high re booty calls but better than other two destinations. You can "get your end wet" in Puerto Princessa, El Nido and Coron (My FR was cited in previous response to your post, plus I posted another FR re Coron alternative option to Hard Rock.)

Caveat: I've been able to measure my life-long global wanderings in multi-month segments. PI transportation infrastructure doesn't support quick scenery changes. My selection of Palawan is influenced by my attraction to tropical, aquatic settings and relatively uncrowded destinations.

Mr Enternational

02-21-13, 03:49

But maybe I'll start chatting up more of the one pic pinays and look them up next time I'm in Ghana. Most of the internet cafes are chok full of young dudes every time I walk by one in Accra.Once I was in Accra and was chatting on an outside site. The person started the sick mother spill and I said cool I am in Accra right now so we can see each other. Their next line was,"Oh. Are you a scammer too?" I told them yes and they were like, "Oh. Sorry."

I have been hitting the dating sites for my trip next month. Mainly Filipino Cupid. These girls seem much more desperate than the Thai girls. Many very attractive girls sending me messages. I had 100 interests in the first 2 days.I don't think it is a thing of being desperate. I think the Thai girls have less time to be sitting around on the computer than Pinays.

Econo Tech

02-21-13, 08:23

Bus ride is OK if no unexpected events such as land slides (which in our case added 8 hours to the trip) and if you manage to sleep in a bus (I do).

The actual trip to Batad is among the high points in my life. I thought it was fabulous and well worth the hardship of the bus ride. Guess it's all a matter of personal preferences.

FredAnd then again, I was in BANAO (yes, BANAO) around the same general vicinity, and was told Tabuk et al are the hot beds of NPA LOL.

My 'guide' refused to let me even think of heading up to Tabuk. And well, seriously, when I was walking around Banao, every other vehicle passing by stopped or slowed down to see who this stranger was. And my local friends said that they are all keeping an eye for strangers. NPA has had a profound effect on them it seems.

Member #4387

02-21-13, 09:56

I may not invented sth but this is maby a good ideanif you don't like beeing stopped by beggars, small children wanting money, cialis salesmen, propertysalesmen and it like.

Ijust walk in the middle of the street where they can not reach you. Traffic moves so slowly anyhow so this have encountered no problem at all but ofcourse easiest if you walk towards traffic. Much more relaxing atleast in the neighbourhood of riviera mansion. I felt more safe walking here than on the narrow curbs with additional disturbance.

Manny51

02-21-13, 15:38

I've experienced and enjoyed all three. PI transportation infrastructure doesn't support quick scenery changes. My selection of Palawan is influenced by my attraction to tropical, aquatic settings and relatively uncrowded destinations.Thanks for your input, and I also noticed what seems to be poor transportation infrastructure. Its weird. On a map, sometimes things are only 100 miles apart, and yet when I research it, the transit time is 8 hours or more. In the US, that's 1. 5 hours on the highway. Moving from one point to the next always seems to take a day. It seems like just seeing 3-4 highlights in the PI will take 2 weeks or more. I know that travel books like Lonely Planet can hype things up. I can't imagine spending all that time on a bus just to be let down when I get there. That's why I wanted direct input from actual fellow travellers. I may have to dump the PI and focus my trip on just Malaysia, but I really want to see those whale sharks. The pictures are spectacular. I find it hard to imagine that as a let down.

BTW, what is the quality of these long distance buses? I assume that there is aircon. Are they spacious, or are you scrunched up shoulder to shoulder? Do they have toilets in the bus? Are they clean or gross? Are the seats comfortable enough to sleep in? I assume that its a modern bus and not one of those central american chicken buses.

I heard that many of the roads are bumpy. I imagine it would be hard to sleep. It must be terrible spending all night awake on a bumpy bus. It ruins your next day.

Wazoo

02-21-13, 15:49

Donsol. Whale shark snorkelling. This is really what is attracting me to the Phils. And I can fly to Legaspi. Seems like I would have to dedicate a few days to ensure that I would get lucky at least once. Worth it?

Bacuit and Palawan. Far off the main path and no nightlife. But the pictures are "The Beach"-esque and gorgeous. Worth it?

Those are the main three. Also thinking surfing in Siargao, but that's much lower on the list.

Thanks!If you want a great diving location near Manila, you might consider Puerto Galera. It's only 3 hours away and the diving is as good as anything you will find in the Philippines. You take a bus to Batangas and then a ferry across to Sabang beach. The advantage is a small but very adequate nightclub scene there. The combination of girls and diving is unusual in Phils. It's much cheaper than highly developed locations like Bohol also. Just an idea.

D Cups

02-21-13, 15:50

Or you can put your ipod in your ears to block out ALL the noise. Works for me. Also walk like you are on a mission (to find p*why) of course!

I may not invented sth but this is maby a good ideanif you don't like beeing stopped by beggars, small children wanting money, cialis salesmen, propertysalesmen and it like.

Ijust walk in the middle of the street where they can not reach you. Traffic moves so slowly anyhow so this have encountered no problem at all but ofcourse easiest if you walk towards traffic. Much more relaxing atleast in the neighbourhood of riviera mansion. I felt more safe walking here than on the narrow curbs with additional disturbance.

PinkPearl

02-21-13, 17:35

Or you can put your ipod in your ears to block out ALL the noise. Works for me. Also walk like you are on a mission (to find p*why) of course!That would violate the anti bling PI rule, making yourself a target.

Perhaps a 100 peso transistor radio with 40 peso headphones would be an exception.

At least if they are piched your whole world is not lost, unlike your hotel safe being cleaned out.

Econo Tech

02-22-13, 02:26

That would violate the anti bling PI rule, making yourself a target.

Perhaps a 100 peso transistor radio with 40 peso headphones would be an exception.

At least if they are piched your whole world is not lost, unlike your hotel safe being cleaned out.But I would rather have my ears in "Listening Mode" so I can be alerted in case some fast foot steps approach. Than have my ears blocked out.

Solution? Stay away from Manila. Stick to. Baguio? Or Basco? Or. Such places LOL

Wicked Roger

02-22-13, 12:08

But I would rather have my ears in "Listening Mode" so I can be alerted in case some fast foot steps approach. Than have my ears blocked out.

Solution? Stay away from Manila. Stick to. Baguio? Or Basco? Or. Such places LOLET.

He has been told on various threads to stay away as he is a paranoid wimp who appears to be afraid of shadows but he ignores all this advice. So when he FRs on being mugged we all know what to say LOL

Manny51

02-22-13, 16:18

I've experienced and enjoyed all three. Per your stated aversion to long bus rides, would strike Banaue Rice Terraces from the list. In Donsol, I was fortunate to swim 4 or 5 times with the whale sharks during my one-day boat excursion but appears that sightings are hit / miss. My personal favorite has been Palawan and in particular, a 4 day. 3 night banka boat trip from El Nido to Palawan.

Caveat: I've been able to measure my life-long global wanderings in multi-month segments. PI transportation infrastructure doesn't support quick scenery changes. My selection of Palawan is influenced by my attraction to tropical, aquatic settings and relatively uncrowded destinations.Thanks for your input. So you are able to take multi-month trips? You must be retired and living it up. That's great.

Do you think that I am making a mistake by skipping the rice terraces? On every tourism guide book, it is on page 1. Are the buses modern, with reclining seats and AC? Or are they central american style chicken buses?

Thanks

Member #4351

02-22-13, 16:47

Manny51, I suggest you go to websites such as flyertalk.com or tripadvisor and read about tourism activities in the Philippines. Most ISG forum members concentrate on other pursuits.

D Cups

02-22-13, 21:15

I've been to Banue Rice Rerraces. It is beautiful but a very long and bumpy bus ride.

Thanks for your input. So you are able to take multi-month trips? You must be retired and living it up. That's great.

Do you think that I am making a mistake by skipping the rice terraces? On every tourism guide book, it is on page 1. Are the buses modern, with reclining seats and AC? Or are they central american style chicken buses?

Thanks

PinkPearl

02-22-13, 21:47

But I would rather have my ears in "Listening Mode" so I can be alerted in case some fast foot steps approach. Than have my ears blocked out.

Solution? Stay away from Manila. Stick to. Baguio? Or Basco? Or. Such places LOLI'd also like my ears to be able to hear if a hot chick is calling me over.

I'd rather not have my hotel safe broken into as Luvpuss claims occurred to him in Vietnam.

I don't know about Basco, but Baguio sounds like it has potential:

"In popular tourist destination Baguio City, up to 3, 000 prostitutes are believed to be working the sex trade."

http://www.havocscope.com/number-of-prostitutes-in-baguio-city-philippines/

"Baguio is a university town with 141, 088 students out of the 301, 926 population count done on the year 2007."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baguio

Benguet

Dashing Don

02-22-13, 23:47

That would violate the anti bling PI rule, making yourself a target.

Perhaps a 100 peso transistor radio with 40 peso headphones would be an exception.

At least if they are piched your whole world is not lost, unlike your hotel safe being cleaned out.I don't know why you guys keep replying to the Gay Pearl. You know he can't pull the trigger and come to the PI. He's a total academic. Its just mind games he's playing. Time and again, I see these posters with their thoughtful responses to the Pearl, meanwhile he's on the beach in Cancun or somewhere, with his wife an 5 kidz, laughing his ass off. Everything he says has been gleaned from the 'real posts' that the real mongers post here. After reading enough of them, the Pearl passes himself off as if he knew the PI intimately like everyone else. The more you treat this guy as being legitimate, the more he will shat on you.

Yo Pearl! If you really want to come to the PI, consider me a friend. Yup, thas right. Come on over. We'll meet up in Malate somewhere. I'll show you the ropes. First though, I"ll need some I'd. Bring some money too because I'll need to know that you have enough for your trip. Probably we'll have to do that down one of the alleyways off Mabini or Faura where its quiet. I'll have to give you a physical too, to make sure you're up to the demands of the trip. Don't worry, it won't be too invasive. After that we'll be set.

Pearl, you can't be too careful. There's some strange characters here, what with the Stunts, Kilts Xmen etc all plyin there trades. Stay close to me.

Your friend,

Don