General Info

[Slippery]

Hmmmmm. Got 3 bottles of Chardonnay in the frig, an unopened bottle of Stoli in the freezer and a bottle of Tanduay in the cabinet. Oughtta last until the 14th.

[Exoticspirit]

PG is a better bet, and well. I can look up my old contacts. You should have any issue in getting good dives.

Do look up Portofina. A nice resort. (no, I didn't stay there, but I got to meet the people there.)

And oh, remember to bring along a nice powerful torch, especially if you are in the habit of walking by the beach. When the tide comes up. The walkways can disappear. No kidding.I figure if it just rains, dives are still on since divers get wet anyway. But if there are high winds, I would think they would have the sense to cancel due to those flimsy long boats tipping over. And yes, even in Puerto Galera where there is reported girlie action, they just might be extra nice if they see potential clients coming in from the rain!

[SergeantRay]

Mango Bob,

You can expect to pay between 30-40 pesos for an individual San Miguel pilsen and San Mig lite. The lite is the more expensive of the two. Last summer I think I paid as little as 22 pesos for a pilsen out in the province (Toledo, Cebu) , but it was warm and there was nowhere to sit.

Generally, the more expensive the beer, you're paying for the ambiance --aircon, dancing girls, chairs.

In Cebu City, the convenience store at the corners of Sanciangko and Pelaez offers the best deal--ice cold pilsen for 25 pesos. I believe the lite is 30. They're 5 pesos cheaper than anywhere else in Colon, and the beer is colder.

If you can drink Golden Eagle, and I know guys who prefer it, it's cheaper than San Miguel, even though it tends to be available only in the province.

[Cbea20]

I can't drink those cheap beers. At a few pesos more, San Miguel makes a couple of labels with longer brewing time: Cerveza Negra, a dark bitter, and San Miguel Premium, an amber in green can or bottle. They are generally not available in Filipino-only venues where the customers drink only to get drunk.


Mango Bob,

You can expect to pay between 30-40 pesos for an individual San Miguel pilsen and San Mig lite. The lite is the more expensive of the two. Last summer I think I paid as little as 22 pesos for a pilsen out in the province (Toledo, Cebu) , but it was warm and there was nowhere to sit.

Generally, the more expensive the beer, you're paying for the ambiance.aircon, dancing girls, chairs.

[Cunning Stunt]

The SM Premium is a very quoffable ale. Usually retails at a tad under 50 pesos in cans, in supermarkets, and a bit cheaper in bottles (bottles are always cheaper than cans in the Phils). Also to be considered are:

Coors (original and light). Slightly cheaper than SM Pilsen.

Beer Na Beer. A malty brew, mainly available outside Manila. Cheap as chips.

It is possible, in the supermarkets, to pick up a pretty drinkable bottle of wine for 300-400 pesos. If you can stomach mass produced Californian plonk, Paul Masson's Chablis and Merlot can be had for about 240 pesos for a litre carafe.

Philippine brandy is a bit rough but better quality gin, such as Gilbey's, is very good and amazingly cheap.

[FreebieFan]

I can't drink those cheap beers. At a few pesos more, San Miguel makes a couple of labels with longer brewing time: Cerveza Negra, a dark bitter, and San Miguel Premium, an amber in green can or bottle. .I don't know what the calorie count on Cerveza Negra is but I believe it to be very high. A few of those every night and you stand every chance fo becoming the beer bellied monsters that patrol Walking Street in Pattaya. Its a nice beer though!

[Econo Tech]

I figure if it just rains, dives are still on since divers get wet anyway. But if there are high winds, I would think they would have the sense to cancel due to those flimsy long boats tipping over. And yes, even in Puerto Galera where there is reported girlie action, they just might be extra nice if they see potential clients coming in from the rain!A lot of diver operators are professional and don't like to risk their customers or themselves for a bit of $.

For girlie action, the last time I was there, the Japs and Koreans were overrunning the place and were training the girls to go for ST than LT.

Well, I hope now things have improved there.

[Exoticspirit]

A lot of diver operators are professional and don't like to risk their customers or themselves for a bit of $.

For girlie action, the last time I was there, the Japs and Koreans were overrunning the place and were training the girls to go for ST than LT.

Well, I hope now things have improved there.If I'm at PG, I actually don't mind ST with the girls since I want to be fresh with energy early in the morning on dive days. The girls will be for late afternoons and evenings. Just hope the quality and prices are okay even though they probably would be at a slightly higher premium compared to AC

[X Man]

SR, If you find time can you do a trip report on Toledo?

I've been up in the mountains outside of Cebu and did some thinking about crossing over and then taking the ferry over to San Carlos, Negros and continue by bus around to Silay / Bacalod. Online there are a few Toledo girls that look interesting as well.

How did you get to Toledo, hotel experience, entertainment, ferry options if possible.

And yes, warm beer is one of the disappointments of venturing out to the provinces. LOL. X Man.


Mango Bob,

You can expect to pay between 30-40 pesos for an individual San Miguel pilsen and San Mig lite. The lite is the more expensive of the two. Last summer I think I paid as little as 22 pesos for a pilsen out in the province (Toledo, Cebu) , but it was warm and there was nowhere to sit.

SNIP.

[Econo Tech]

If I'm at PG, I actually don't mind ST with the girls since I want to be fresh with energy early in the morning on dive days. The girls will be for late afternoons and evenings. Just hope the quality and prices are okay even though they probably would be at a slightly higher premium compared to ACYah, Some like ST, though I don't and you maybe among the group that says "I don't fuck in my sleep" LOL.

Price. Well, I had inside deals whenever I got to PG! Never had to figure out the price.

It was 3000 for LT. And that was that.

[D Cups]

SM lemon is really quite good IMO.


The SM Premium is a very quoffable ale. Usually retails at a tad under 50 pesos in cans, in supermarkets, and a bit cheaper in bottles (bottles are always cheaper than cans in the Phils). Also to be considered are:

Coors (original and light). Slightly cheaper than SM Pilsen.

Beer Na Beer. A malty brew, mainly available outside Manila. Cheap as chips.

It is possible, in the supermarkets, to pick up a pretty drinkable bottle of wine for 300-400 pesos. If you can stomach mass produced Californian plonk, Paul Masson's Chablis and Merlot can be had for about 240 pesos for a litre carafe.

Philippine brandy is a bit rough but better quality gin, such as Gilbey's, is very good and amazingly cheap.

[SergeantRay]

X Man,

Sorry I can't be of much help on Toledo. My girlfriend last summer was from Toledo, and I was thinking "Toledo," the city. In actuality she was from the hills in the middle of nowhere, with Toledo the only recognizable landmark anywhere near.

When I thought we were going to Toledo, we took a long habal-habal ride out in the boonies, so far from anything that it was night and there were times when I couldn't see any lights.

It's a two-hour minivan ride from Cebu City. Having seen the online talent from Toledo, it might be a better bet to talk them into traveling to the city, where they are away from gossips and there is less pressure to provide for the entire extended family.

If you did the Toledo-San Carlos ferry, it would be a much shorter route to Bacolod than going to Dumaguete. My friends in Bacolod like to make day trips to Sipaway Island off San Carlos.

[SergeantRay]

I forgot to mention I like Tanduay Ice, the clear color. Frankly, it's the best wine cooler-type drink I've ever had, tasting something like a spiked lemonade. From memory it's 20-25 pesos.

On Colon Street in downtown Cebu City near Gaisano Metro, the I Hing Store sells them cold, and they'll open it for you in the store. It's nice strolling the sidewalk and cooling off with a Tanduay Ice, feeling the guilty pleasure of getting away with what is a crime in most US locales.

[Docwiltro]

Good grief, I hope this guy wasn't an ISG member as well!

http://www.philstar.com/cebu-news/2013/04/30/936637/another-aussie-facing-chargesUnfortunately, he was a member. Without mentioning his nic, he liked to talk about all his g. F. 's. 1 thru 9 as I remember. He was too reckless and a bit on the arrogant side. The interesting thing about these girls, as I found out later, was most of them were lesbians and had tomboy boyfriends. Including his g. F. #1 who was a real tasty tidbit. Overall, his cover story didn't add up, and it probably didn't take the Federales too long to put 2 and 2 together. Personally, I hope he can wriggle out of this and buy his way to freedom. Nobody deserves what he is facing.

[X Man]

Thanks Sarg, I've done the motorbike ride out to the boonies and back, but it was a day trip. We got back to Cebu city at dusk. It was a great experience, but let me share the four things that stick in my mind: 4) riding three to a bike with me in the middle and my rather heavy back pack hanging on the front side of the driver 3) big pink house in the little town that was three times bigger than any other home."she married a poreiner".2) starting a camp fire behind the bamboo shack and realizing that this is how they regularly cook meals 1) the queasy feeling, the shock, and ultimately kid in a candy store feeling when she says,"I asked my father. He said it's okay if I stay with you." Yikes.


X Man,

Sorry I can't be of much help on Toledo. My girlfriend last summer was from Toledo, and I was thinking "Toledo," the city. In actuality she was from the hills in the middle of nowhere, with Toledo the only recognizable landmark anywhere near.

When I thought we were going to Toledo, we took a long habal-habal ride out in the boonies, so far from anything that it was night and there were times when I couldn't see any lights.

It's a two-hour minivan ride from Cebu City. Having seen the online talent from Toledo, it might be a better bet to talk them into traveling to the city, where they are away from gossips and there is less pressure to provide for the entire extended family.

If you did the Toledo-San Carlos ferry, it would be a much shorter route to Bacolod than going to Dumaguete. My friends in Bacolod like to make day trips to Sipaway Island off San Carlos.

[SergeantRay]

X Man,

I've seen people in Cebu City who regularly cook rice over fires and live in apartments without running water, refrigeration, or a bathroom of their own.

I know what you mean.during that trip my girlfriend and I had our own room in her grandparents' house, and everybody was cool with it.

On the lighter side, I had a friend with a long-time girlfriend whose family was having second thoughts about their relationship. In a flash of insight, he gave several hundred pesos to the family for expenses. Dad drove the two of them on his tricycle directly to his hotel room!

[SergeantRay]

it seems to be a recurring theme here, with foreigners thinking they are bulletproof and doing stupid "[CodeWord113] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord113)."

first of all, you have to realize that philippine laws aren't necessarily logical. filipinos aren't alone in this. a friend of mine stationed in korea used to bribe koreans with playboy magazines. while prostitution and brothels were rampant, girlie magazines were illegal.

you can live a non-stop live of sexual carousing with an endless string of 18 year olds, and you're good as gold. this includes the guy on the forum who's into rubber suits.

but have some aging woman with 3 kids show her breasts on a webcam, and you're looking at hard time. while women and young girls are bought and sold on a regular basis, put a woman doing a strip show on a webcam and the nbi will come crashing through the window. i've read letters to the editor by filipinos who are outraged that some dirty, lusty foreigner several thousand miles away is looking at a filipina on webcam. in the meantime, filipinas are being bought and sold two blocks away, with nary a dirty foreigner involved. who cares?

i've seen asian men get out of nice cars with girls who couldn't be older than 14. i've seen a prostitute get beaten by a pimp in the middle of the street. and last summer i couldn't believe all the **** hookers in colon. where were the cops? they were prepping for raids on places where "exploited" women were working on internet cam shows or in bars that weren't up-to-date on their bribes.

i may have written on this before, but this incident encapsulates the duplicity of filipino priorities and show law enforcement. some japanese went to a remote island off of mactan to film a porno. no filipinos were involved. the japanese were followed by filipinos who observed the proceedings (strictly for law enforcement purposes, i assure you) and reported. the police then disguised themselves as fishermen and launched a raid, nabbing the japanese before they could. uh, well, who knows what might have happened if they had continued filming on a remote beach. they were fined.for the sake of justice, not to buy anyone's san miguel-and banished from the philippines. some in the newspaper suggested that the police should receive a special commendation for their outstanding performance.

you have to realize what is really going on. 19 year old girls are going to go off with 50-60-70 year old men because the family is desperate. there are brothels that are unknown to foreigners, and run entirely on filipino clientele. everybody is fine with this. but play into the meme of "dirty foreigner preys on filipinas," and you set yourself up to be used as an example to prove that the problem is dirty foreigners, not filipinos or the philippine economy, that filipino law enforcement is right on top of things, and filipinas flashing on webcam is the worst sexual crime the country faces.

[Cbea20]

There is a logic to the apparent dissonance. It has to do the the image of the Philippines and Filipino womanhood abroad. Whatever the problems and injustice domestically, there is high sensitivity about global image. The large part of national income that comes from overseas workers is also a factor.


.But have some aging woman with 3 kids show her breasts on a webcam, and you're looking at hard time. While women and young girls are bought and sold on a regular basis, put a woman doing a strip show on a webcam and the NBI will come crashing through the window. I've read letters to the editor by Filipinos who are outraged that some dirty, lusty foreigner several thousand miles away is looking at a Filipina on webcam. In the meantime, Filipinas are being bought and sold two blocks away, with nary a dirty foreigner involved. Who cares?.

[FreebieFan]

You have to realize what is really going on. 19 year old girls are going to go off with 50-60-70 year old men because the family is desperate. There are brothels that are unknown to foreigners, and run entirely on Filipino clientele. Everybody is fine with this. But play into the meme of "Dirty Foreigner Preys on Filipinas," and you set yourself up to be used as an example to prove that the problem is dirty foreigners, not Filipinos or the Philippine economy, that Filipino law enforcement is right on top of things, and Filipinas flashing on webcam is the worst sexual crime the country faces.You have nailed it with this summary. Of course, many girls also flash for free.

And theres an army of guys who don't have ther with, wisdom or smarts to get the girls to show for free. So they offer money. Which is why many many profiles all say " don't ask I don't webcam shows " etc.

But certainly, the recent spate of arrests will make a few foreigners a lot more wary than they have been. The Filipinos of course will not be impacted at all. They will carry on as they are doing.

Hey IJM, did you know there are bars near Baclaran with girls who for sure are less than 18. Want to go raid those. No I didn't think so.

[Cunning Stunt]

Its election day and the rainy season seems to have arrived at last. Afternoon thunderstorms for the last 4 days and its pissing down as I write. Bit cooler too although the humidity is obviously high.

Adds a bit of variety to the boring 'scorchio' daily weather reports of the last few weeks.

[Red Kilt]

It seems to be a recurring theme here, with foreigners thinking they are bulletproof and doing stupid . <SNIP> . .Like FF says, I think you have explained the general situation very well here Sarge in a lucid and relatively dispassionate manner.

[Econo Tech]

i may have written on this before, but this incident encapsulates the duplicity of filipino priorities and show law enforcement. .,.and you set yourself up to be used as an example to prove that the problem is dirty foreigners, not filipinos or the philippine economy, that filipino law enforcement is right on top of things, and filipinas flashing on webcam is the worst sexual crime the country faces.the point is, when the citizens are naive and hero worshipping, a senator / congressman with a dozen [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) cases will still be voted in. because, after all, he is 'defending and protecting the prided of the filipinos. ' which he accomplishes by ensuring the foreigners don't spoil the natives. i. e. let us get our women raped / pregnant / abused / sold, it's ok. thanks but not thanks, we don't need foreigners to get our women pregnant.

and the role of ngos who are funded by foreign govts (ahem.) are very active in weeding out the 1% or less of the foreigners. than the 99% of natives who are into buying selling etc. etc

recently when i was talking to a ngo, i casually mentioned that 99% of women trafficked into singapore are trafficked by fellow citizens and none of the natives ever go to the cop-shed, so they can go on to repeat the 'export of women' with others. it is always the foreigner who may have the smallest role. or bankrolling the operation. who is accused, villified and destroyed. she was like "are you kidding? don't make up stories, our people will never take advantage of their own country men." i realised i over-stepped my authority and disappered saying "i heard from some friend of friend of friend" than get involved in proving her wrong.

btw, classical pinoy thinking. chavit singson. son gets caught red handed in hk with drugs (damn he wasn't caught in singapore or he would have gone to prison for longer.) and then chavit goes on to do a citizen's arrest on some kids who were visiting his son claiming the foreign kids were drugged etc. etc. and guess what? the typical pinoy mind forgives chavit's sons' indiscretion and goes on to give chavit another chance for being morally upright.

and i can still smile when i remember the son's defence in hk when caught with drugs "my girl friend left me, and i was facing a tough time." and exactly the same words used by the natives of ph to forgive him. after all, his gf was causing him stress, what kind of people we are if we cannot forgive him. and look at his father, his father is an upright man, even going to the extent of throwing dirty foreigners in jail. if they were not good people, would his father do such a thing? etc. etc.

my whole conclusion is, it is not the law enforcement. the whole mentality of the natives is the problem here. and one too many politician and ngo are exploiting it to the max. anybody remember the.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/subic_rape_case

? how idiotic would it be. i don't condone [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of bar girls, but the girl, according to the ngos who were championing the case the girl was there in the bar to have a drink and the marines raped her. and all, including gabriella group. were adamant that even if the girl didn't' want to pursue the case, the marines must be hanged. and boy, didn't that whole case firmly anchor more than one senator / congressmen's career in the pretext of defending the right of innocent filipino women? and i know one top-shot who was in the limelight was blatantly abusing a 15 year old girl, but hey, he is ok and can be forgiven as long as he fought to put the americans behind bars.

rant over.

[Econo Tech]

BTW, how incredible is the Philippines Legal System. When researching for something else, I came across the following

Reclusióand perpetua carries the accessory penalty in which, as defined by Philippine Law, guilty parties suffer lifetime barring from holding political office. Life imprisonment does not carry this penalty.

So, if you have a life imprisonment, you can still contest and hold public offices.

Welcome to the Philippines Islands!

[Wicked Roger]

This is a good read and see the only comment at the bottom of the page.

http://news.ph.msn.com/regional/a-rogues-gallery-of-philippine-election-candidates

[Member #4351]

CNN is pushing their new "slavery expose reality show" about 100, 000 Filipinas in the sex slave industry. The NGO ex P4P "savior" is trying to enlist Pacquiáo in the endeavor. Her big Pinoy Pride line is "we Filipinas can't be bought".

[Member #4351]

Correct quote is: "Filipinos have dignity, we cannot be sold". Very good statement around election time.

[Tally Wacker]

Thanks Sarg, I've done the motorbike ride out to the boonies and back, but it was a day trip. We got back to Cebu city at dusk. It was a great experience, but let me share the four things that stick in my mind: 4) riding three to a bike with me in the middle and my rather heavy back pack hanging on the front side of the driver 3) big pink house in the little town that was three times bigger than any other home."she married a poreiner".2) starting a camp fire behind the bamboo shack and realizing that this is how they regularly cook meals 1) the queasy feeling, the shock, and ultimately kid in a candy store feeling when she says,"I asked my father. He said it's okay if I stay with you." Yikes.I had a similar expierience visiting a girlfriends family who were very poor but happy and friendly. They were very nice and did not ask or expect me to pay for anything during the time I visited although I did bring groceries and things from town.

At night time on the way back to the hotel where my gf and I were staying there were many frogs jumping across the road and I asked if they ever ate them. I was told the frogs were not good to eat but there was another type that were good to eat. The next night her brothers went out to the rice fields and caught a bunch of frogs which they cooked up for our lunch along with fresh vegetables that we picked and rice. The frogs were very tasty!

It was an interesting and education visit but the weather was too hot and theres not much to do during the day other than watch the grass grow.

[Irony Monger]

It was an interesting and education visit but the weather was too hot and theres not much to do during the day other than watch the grass grow.Thanks for the pic! Brought back fond memories of my trip to Mindanao, but fortunately we had pig instead of frog. However, due to the amount of tuba I drank I doubt I would have noticed the difference :)

[Red Kilt]

At night time on the way back to the hotel where my gf and I were staying there were many frogs jumping across the road and I asked if they ever ate them. I was told the frogs were not good to eat but there was another type that were good to eat. The next night her brothers went out to the rice fields and caught a bunch of frogs which they cooked up for our lunch along with fresh vegetables that we picked and rice. The frogs were very tasty!They also love to eat the rice field snails too."Vive La France"

If you knew how much pesticide and herbicide is distributed on the growing palay (rice) you would have politely declined.

Tasty Yes. Healthy No.

The food chain in the rice fields is seriously f*k*ed up and every year they need to add more and more pesticide and herbicide to keep the "pests" (animals and weeds) at bay. Add in the enormous quantity of fertilizers too and you can see why rural filipinos are not, in general, a robust and healthy group of people (notice I said "in general", because although most have "high blood" there are a few spry wizened old centurions who probably ate these things all of their life)

[FreebieFan]

Recently when I was talking to a NGO, I casually mentioned that 99% of women trafficked into Singapore are trafficked by fellow citizens and none of the natives ever go to the cop-shed, so they can go on to repeat the 'export of women' with others. It is always the foreigner who may have the smallest role. Or bankrolling the operation. Who is accused, villified and destroyed. She was like "are you kidding? Don't make up stories, our people will never take advantage of their own country men." I realised I over-stepped my authority and disappered saying "I heard from some friend of friend of friend" than get involved in proving her wrong.

Rant over.As we all know, the lovely ladies who ply their trade in Peyton Place etcetc all have a mamasan. She in turn has a counterpart in Manila who in turn has "friends" in Immigration who lets these SYTs get through the various NAIA airports with no hassle en route to Singapore. Trafficked, of course they are.

But if I'm in the line in NAIA with a SYT of my own for 3 days of fun in a sunny location I get the 3rd degree of questioning thats lasts sufficiently long that we miss the flight. Happened twice.

"sir do you have emails that shows you have a long relationship" " Yes we do.

Do you have photos together" " Yes its on a memory stick here" " Sorry sir we require to see 20th century kodak paper originals" etcetc.

One of hte storngest traits of all Filipinos is to blame others and never to look in the mirror. They might not like who they see.

[Red Kilt]

Check this out.

http://sowhatsnews.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/philippines-named-most-stupid-country-to-elect-a-20-year-ojt-as-a-senator-by-time-magazine/

BTW it's a satirical piece (she is older than 20) BUT it still has enormous elements of truth embedded within.

[Soapy Smith]

Check this out.

http://sowhatsnews.wordpress.com/2013/05/14/philippines-named-most-stupid-country-to-elect-a-20-year-ojt-as-a-senator-by-time-magazine/

BTW it's a satirical piece (she is older than 20) BUT it still has enormous elements of truth embedded within.Many are also shaking their heads at Erap's victory over Alfredo Lim as Mayor of Manila. The masses prefer a tired old actor and convicted corrupt political felon to the law and order incumbent (although well into his 80s) who draws a claim of fame to his role in the people power overthrow of Marcos. Stupid masses? Maybe. Or perhaps just many poor people tired of Lim's beating them up to sustain his law and order reputation. Although there are no guarantees, effective July first things might be better for all the depraved foreigners who frequent Ermita's redlight district.

Any doubt the senior Binay will run for President in 2016?

[Red Kilt]

. Although there are no guarantees, effective July first things might be better for all the depraved foreigners who frequent Ermita's redlight district.

Any doubt the senior Binay will run for President in 2016?I wouldn't be too sure of that SK.

When he was Mayor of San Juan it was a squeaky clean place insofar as bars and strip joints are concerned. Who knows what philosophy he will bring to Manila?

No doubt at all that Binay will run for Pres. In 2016.

It is freely admitted that his party was formed specifically with this in mind.

He is already well ahead in the preliminary straw polls as he has been cultivating the OFWs both at home and abroad and everyone knows that with that lot on side (plus the extended families of the OFWs) he has a sound walk up start.

[Econo Tech]

I wouldn't be too sure of that SK.

When he was Mayor of San Juan it was a squeaky clean place insofar as bars and strip joints are concerned. Who knows what philosophy he will bring to Manila?Well, and those who insist Lim was squeeky clean are in for a rude shock. Those businesses which were shutdown were those who didn't pay the right amount.

Let me see. Malate comes under Lim right? LOL

[GoodEnough]

Well, and those who insist Lim was squeeky clean are in for a rude shock. Those businesses which were shutdown were those who didn't pay the right amount.

Let me see. Malate comes under Lim right? LOLThough I can't swear that this is 100% true, I'm pretty sure that the phrase "clean politician" is an oxymoron in the Philippines, which may also hold true for most countries. My hope is that Ermita / Malate will soon revert to what they once were, which is probably something that only us old timers will remember. I remember well when I first saw the area during the dying days of the Marcos regime, and for me it was dazzling, reminiscent of my first visit to Thailand. If Erap can "restore" this area to its former incarnation, the tourist revenues of Manila are likely to increase significantly.

GE

[Red Kilt]

Well, and those who insist Lim was squeeky clean are in for a rude shock. Those businesses which were shutdown were those who didn't pay the right amount.

Let me see. Malate comes under Lim right? LOLI said in my original post # 6802 that "San Juan was squeaky clean". I didn't say Estrada was; I said that his bailiwick was.

Nobody said anything about Lim being squeaky clean either.

BTW, the comment that Lim shut down businesses in Malate which didn't pay the right amount is simply repeating stuff that was often assumed by posts on ISG.

Mayor Lim denies vehemently that this was the case, so what ET says is just rumour unless he has got some proof to the contrary.

[Manta Ray]

Though I can't swear that this is 100% true, I'm pretty sure that the phrase "clean politician" is an oxymoron in the Philippines, which may also hold true for most countries. My hope is that Ermita / Malate will soon revert to what they once were, which is probably something that only us old timers will remember. I remember well when I first saw the area during the dying days of the Marcos regime, and for me it was dazzling, reminiscent of my first visit to Thailand. If Erap can "restore" this area to its former incarnation, the tourist revenues of Manila are likely to increase significantly.

GEI do remember with much fondness those glory days of Ermita / Malate. When MBC was in its former incarnation as Rosie's Diner, offering a clean, bright, relatively quiet respite from the madness of Firehouse et al.

Manta Ray

[Econo Tech]

Mayor Lim denies vehemently that this was the case, so what ET says is just rumour unless he has got some proof to the contrary.What I posted about the right amount not being paid, is not a rumour. I know it first hand . And don't like to squabble here with you on that. And I know more than a few of the staff who were held under a semi-house arrest. They were allowed to go out and do whatever they want, as long as back when there is a roll call.

And more than enough of the staff did their own propaganda that the so-called IJM or whoever were only killing their livelihood. I am sure you knew all that.

And care to explain why it was allowed to re-open, same place, same staff, same management, albeit under a new name?

Well, if you are close to Mayor Lim, let me put it this way, let's not get drawn into a shooting match for who is cleaner than who. It is only the amount of dirt that matters in PH Politics. It's not about cleanliness.

For a clue, another of a squeeky clean politico from the same country demanded a major donation, for a project to donate stuff. So cost of donation becomes. Actual donated material+ forced donation to the politician's coffers. The latter was going more than the original donation planned. And the latter was to be handed over in Hong Kong. Guess what? The natives will swear he is the most cleaned man in the world.yes, as per their standard.

And recently my GF told me this, when I asked her why Filipinos voted Aquino in. Her answer?"he is the least corrupt" being educated and more aware of the scenery, she didn't say PNoy is CLEAN, she knows, like may educated filipinos, somewhere, someplace, he is still corrupt. Or atleast not stopping it.

After all, tell me how many of his senators / cabinet are clean?

[FreebieFan]

I wouldn't be too sure of that SK.

When he was Mayor of San Juan it was a squeaky clean place insofar as bars and strip joints are concerned. Who knows what philosophy he will bring to Manila?

No doubt at all that Binay will run for Pres. In 2016.

It is freely admitted that his party was formed specifically with this in mind.

He is already well ahead in the preliminary straw polls as he has been cultivating the OFWs both at home and abroad and everyone knows that with that lot on side (plus the extended families of the OFWs) he has a sound walk up start.Theres a certain politician who was a mayor of a certain city in Manila and same gent who may make a presidential run in future years. His family (him / wife and now son) have all been mayor of same city. Anyways freebie was happily at work one day in this same city when my office gets a request for payment for the mayors fund for Christmas or something similar. A quite brazen request given that we paid in full all taxes and supported some other projects of the same mayor. We refused on a point of principal. Within one week, said mayor had sent numerous business inspectors to our premises to check we were paying all taxes and had found one tiny error when we paid taxes two days late owing to a check that was incorrectly signed. They threatened us with a huge fine and shutting down our business. We suggested that we could make the required donation to the mayors fund, and they agreed. Inpsectors all went home and life carried on. The person who was mayor is a shark. Small shark in terms of size but with a big greedy shark's bite nonetheless. Thats possibly the future president. Oh and he had 6 rolexes. One for every day of the week he would boast. He didn't get those from his mayors salary thats for sure. Politics in the Philippines. A total joke. And yet these are the plonkers who people vote for. Sad sad and sad!

[Member #4387]

Anyone know about some sportbar / pubs in Makati sending NHL playoffs 3 round from late May until start of June? Even though I don't know if Rangers will go through yet (beating down the Bruins. Best out of 7 games. I am also interested in hockey on a more general level). Preferably not so far from Glorietta 4 but I don't mind taking taxi. Thanks from soon to be daddy Skogis

[Amanut]

Anyone know about some sportbar / pubs in Makati sending NHL playoffs 3 round from late May until start of June? Even though I don't know if Rangers will go through yet (beating down the Bruins. Best out of 7 games. I am also interested in hockey on a more general level). Preferably not so far from Glorietta 4 but I don't mind taking taxi. Thanks from soon to be daddy SkogisI was at my corner store the other day and the clerk was watching a non broadcast game online. He said he had downloaded a program or was on a site that allowed him to watch almost all NHL games at no cost. The next time I see him I will ask him the name of the program and send it to you if you wish. I'm not sure of the protocol here about publishing web sites so will PM it to you if your interested.

[Member #4387]

I was at my corner store the other day and the clerk was watching a non broadcast game online. He said he had downloaded a program or was on a site that allowed him to watch almost all NHL games at no cost. The next time I see him I will ask him the name of the program and send it to you if you wish. I'm not sure of the protocol here about publishing web sites so will PM it to you if your interested.You can ofcourse do that but I bet what he was watching was some sort of livestreaming and the quality can be rather low(but it depends can also be quite good at times). If he has some other sources I am interested and you can PM me. For the streamings I am relatively on top of that myself but do prefer normal old fashion TV broadcastings.

From another source I got it that Howzat in Makati (sportsbar / pub) broadcasts NHL games. That is more than good enough for me.

[Econo Tech]

Theres a certain politician who was a mayor of a certain city in Manila and same gent who may make a presidential run in future years.Exactly.

+1.

[Gangles]

After a long absense, I am back in paradise for 7 weeks.

Kicked off with a lovely, very tall, skinny, and very horny damsel.

Some of the images that she left me with. G

[Jp Slicky]

The Howzat bar by Burgos may have it

[Greek Niko]

After a long absense, I am back in paradise for 7 weeks.

Kicked off with a lovely, very tall, skinny, and very horny damsel.

Some of the images that she left me with. GThat ass looks so familar, are we now sperm brothers ROTFLMAO

[Soapy Smith]

What I posted about the right amount not being paid, is not a rumour. I know it first hand . And don't like to squabble here with you on that. And I know more than a few of the staff who were held under a semi-house arrest. They were allowed to go out and do whatever they want, as long as back when there is a roll call.From well-informed locals I was told that soon after his 2007 election Lim's administration cut off a number of the Cavite and Laguna bus lines from coming into the City of Manila because they weren't "paying the administration" for access. I do not have this first hand, but those who told me this are usually well informed.

Regarding Erap people who were close to him have suggested that when he became mayor of San Juan he took in some close advisors who were "clean government" advocates. He was a political neophyte at the time. Some of them also apparently advised him in the early period of his presidency, but at some point his office started to go to his head, and / or he began to surround himself with schmoozers and folks who liked to party hardy. The old advisors then started to part ways. He did crack down on perceived police and military corruption early in his administration, and many of the reformer types (like those in the NGO crowd pushing for land reform and poverty alleviation) were hopeful about his administration in the beginning, but things obviously didn't end on the moral high ground.

On a personal basis it is widely perceived that he likes to live a comfortable lifestyle. He's a bit of an enigma, and we may have to wait and see what he does.

[Econo Tech]

.On a personal basis it is widely perceived that he likes to live a comfortable lifestyle. He's a bit of an enigma, and we may have to wait and see what he does.Well, and the fact that he has sworn he is not power hungry and "one term for me, and one term for my wife" has greatly endeared him to the masses. Not likely for him to disappear soon. That's my gut feeling.

[Soapy Smith]

Well, and the fact that he has sworn he is not power hungry and "one term for me, and one term for my wife" has greatly endeared him to the masses. Not likely for him to disappear soon. That's my gut feeling.Which wife? Also, there might be a question of life expectancy. His mother lived to about 100, but she wasn't a chain smoker?

[Hutsori]

If you're looking for something different to do tonight (21 May) and fancy trying your hand with air hostesses try Flight Sexy Night at Republiq night club, Resorts World, across the street from NAIA terminal 3. It's an event featuring Cebu Pacific air hostesses, and the place will be full of them (as well as many good looking non CP girls). Door charge is like p600. There is a dress code. Drinks aren't priced prohibitively: p200+ cocktails, p120+ beer, p250+ shots, and bottle service. Make sure you bring a valid ID.

[KongKing]

OK let's make a few things clear first. I am not a monger, I am a 73 year old snorkeler, hiker, kayaker. But on every trip to the "right" countries I dedicate one day to try to find a nice sex experience. At this age I am a one pop guy with the help of viagra. And I am willing to pay up to $130 or so for a short time if it is no hassle. I never had a really bad experience, but the quality did vary.I have just caught up with Nabradi's interesting posting tucked away in the Manila thread, along with Gangles good reply.

I am somehow reminded of that old joke about the sex stages in a man's life:

Tri weekly.

Try weekly.

Try weakly

Try (or was it try oysters!)

Having been married for a few decades I was 'lucky' if I was doing better than the 'try weekly' phase. But now, like many divorcees, I have discovered the Philippines and as Goodenough once said for newbies this can become like a boy in a candy shop. The Philippines is certainly a candy shop.

That somehow also reminds me of the girl who, for a novelty, went to the fancy dress party covered all over in just gold paint. Everything was fine until the novelty wore off. Having been coming to the Philippines for 6 years, and living here for more than two years, the novelty has not yet worn off. I am still a boy in a candy shop. And now I am doing better than the 'tri weekly' level. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I have resisted the temptation to become hitched to a wife or a girl friend.

Now maybe here on ISG it is a bit like coming out of the cupboard but I do admit to being in the septuagenarian class. Some of my colleagues won't admit it or to disguise the fact that they (like me!) put their age down by 10-15 years on the dating sites. And life in the mongering sense is pretty good. For two years I have had a lovely 24 year old as a regular 'Miss Monday' partner. She knows I am not marriage material and that I have other dates. And I do. On Sunday I built upon a 'hi, how are you' from an attractive 21 year old DIA girl and she stayed that night. Then on Tuesday a 19 year old chat mate who I was cultivating for a few weeks asked if she could come and visit. Not wishing to miss out on that opportunity she did for a few hours. That was three young Filipina and 6 rounds in 3 days. I think I am doing better than Dragon Slayer in this respect, despite his regular slagging off of geriatrics!

But, to quote Australian roadside billboards, I do have an 'erectile dysfunction' problem. In fact I have two. I can cum too quickly (I have always had that problem) or more common in recent years I can be humping for 20-30 minutes and still not cum. Just to get some sleep I sometimes fake an orgasm! I guess it is a case of mind over matter. After round one with my Sunday overnighter she said 'that was so quick! ' A follow-up at a 2am water stop was so long and so flagging I gave up. But the morning departure round was more fulfilling. My regular Miss Monday girl is so loving and caring but a prolonged session with her led to no conclusion for me and a follow-up DATY or dildo session for her. In contrast my short time Miss Tuesday 19 year old had me so excited, and despite a rare and somewhat deadening 'please use a condom' request I came quickly twice within 3 hours.

I think it has something to do with the thrill of the chase, and the challenge to get those panties off. After all panties are next to the best thing in the world (aren't they?). So to prolong my performance I let my brain wander to painting the fence and restocking the refrigerator. And to reach a climax on a flagging performance I try and think of sexy moments, past wonderful conquests or looking down while doing doggy on those lovely fossae lumbales laterales; opps I mean dimples of Venus.

I have reached the conclusion that monogamy breeds monotony. Whether it stays that way remains to be seen. Some of my good colleagues, including some here on ISG, are in a partnership and to keep it fresh they have a latent bit on the side. Maybe, as one ages, a partnership with a nurse or a caregiver is the way to go. There are plenty of those opportunities for this in the Philippines, with fringe benefits on the side.

Kongking

[FreebieFan]

[QUOTE=KongKing; Tri weekly.

Having been married for a few decades I was 'lucky' if I was doing better than the 'try weekly' phase. But now, like many divorcees, I have discovered the Philippines and as Goodenough once said for newbies this can become like a boy in a candy shop. The Philippines is certainly a candy shop.

That somehow also reminds me of the girl who, for a novelty, went to the fancy dress party covered all over in just gold paint. Everything was fine until the novelty wore off. Having been coming to the Philippines for 6 years, and living here for more than two years, the novelty has not yet worn off. I am still a boy in a candy shop. And now I am doing better than the 'tri weekly' level. Perhaps it has something to do with the fact I have resisted the temptation to become hitched to a wife or a girl friend.

I think it has something to do with the thrill of the chase, and the challenge to get those panties off. After all panties are next to the best thing in the world (aren't they?). So to prolong my performance I let my brain wander to painting the fence and restocking the refrigerator. And to reach a climax on a flagging performance I try and think of sexy moments, past wonderful conquests or looking down while doing doggy on those lovely fossae lumbales laterales; opps I mean dimples of Venus.

I have reached the conclusion that monogamy breeds monotony. Whether it stays that way remains to be seen. Some of my good colleagues, including some here on ISG, are in a partnership and to keep it fresh they have a latent bit on the side. Maybe, as one ages, a partnership with a nurse or a caregiver is the way to go. There are plenty of those opportunities for this in the Philippines, with fringe benefits on the side.

Kongking[/QUOTE]Your conclusion is spot on. Extricated myself from the ball and chain 6 months back and happily looking forward to living nearly permanently in the candy shop in a few short years, when I can retire and shag and shag and shag. The young bucks love to boast about their prowess, but the past few days posts have proved theres plenty of life in the older dogs too. And yes ther nurses are cute too as we will all find out later in life!

[X Man]

Sounded very interesting. If Mr. H or others dropped in, I hope they can give some reports. I'm not fond of MM, but when I do go, I usually I end up in Malate / Ermita. Maybe Pasay is good for a revisit. The last time I stayed there I was at Copacabana htl, which is across from EDSA entertainment and also down the road from the Mall of Asia (MoA). BTW, the airport is in the Pasay section of MM.

Thanks RK for the Microtel MofA post.

BTW, no one has done an airport road review in a while.

Thanks for the info Hutsori. If I had been in MM I would have tried to go. X.


If you're looking for something different to do tonight (21 May) and fancy trying your hand with air hostesses try Flight Sexy Night at Republiq night club, Resorts World, across the street from NAIA terminal 3. It's an event featuring Cebu Pacific air hostesses, and the place will be full of them (as well as many good looking non CP girls). Door charge is like p600. There is a dress code. Drinks aren't priced prohibitively: p200+ cocktails, p120+ beer, p250+ shots, and bottle service. Make sure you bring a valid ID.

[Wicked Roger]

Saw this today saying the pesos may end up at 37. 50 t0 the US$. Won't make some happy (my good mate in San Fernando for example).

http://business.inquirer.net/123429/peso-may-strengthen-further-to-37-501

[SergeantRay]

I have just caught up with Nabradi's interesting posting tucked away in the Manila thread, along with Gangles good reply.

Having been married for a few decades I was 'lucky' if I was doing better than the 'try weekly' phase. But now, like many divorcees, I have discovered the Philippines and as Goodenough once said for newbies this can become like a boy in a candy shop. The Philippines is certainly a candy shop.

I have reached the conclusion that monogamy breeds monotony. Whether it stays that way remains to be seen.

KongkingI was always a one-woman, monogamous guy, until one day it finally occurred to me that the strategy of finding "the right one" and marrying her makes sense in the US, but it is nothing short of retarded in the Philippines. Another big part of the problem was my strict religious upbringing, which was full of ominous warnings about the dangers of "sexual sin."

You aptly sum up the sexual downside of marriage, but the real problem is economic. When you're married you're not only stuck with an aging woman with little sex appeal, but you're also on the hook for every real and imagined crisis. Filipinos are masters at creating and wallowing in crises. In the end you wind up paying thousands of dollars for a woman that you wouldn't pay 500 pesos for on the street.

A good friend of mine isn't coming to the Philippines this year because his Filipina wife is trying to clean him out of every dollar he's got.

Why would any guy get married?

[Sxxxx]

. You aptly sum up the sexual downside of marriage, but the real problem is economic. When you're married you're not only stuck with an aging woman with little sex appeal, but you're also on the hook for every real and imagined crisis. Filipinos are masters at creating and wallowing in crises. In the end you wind up paying thousands of dollars for a woman that you wouldn't pay 500 pesos for on the street.

A good friend of mine isn't coming to the Philippines this year because his Filipina wife is trying to clean him out of every dollar he's got.Spoken by a person with experience viz : "Filipinos are masters at creating and wallowing in crises. In the end you wind up paying thousands of dollars for a woman that you wouldn't pay 500 pesos for on the street". I say, newbies beware. Filipinos, cheap when single, very expensive and troublesome in marriage.

Oh yeh, there are exceptions, but we are not talking about exceptions, we are talking about "in general". Fools rush in where wise men fear to tread, applies.

[Member #4387]

I was always a one-woman, monogamous guy, until one day it finally occurred to me that the strategy of finding "the right one" and marrying her makes sense in the US, but it is nothing short of retarded in the Philippines. Another big part of the problem was my strict religious upbringing, which was full of ominous warnings about the dangers of "sexual sin."

You aptly sum up the sexual downside of marriage, but the real problem is economic. When you're married you're not only stuck with an aging woman with little sex appeal, but you're also on the hook for every real and imagined crisis. Filipinos are masters at creating and wallowing in crises. In the end you wind up paying thousands of dollars for a woman that you wouldn't pay 500 pesos for on the street.

A good friend of mine isn't coming to the Philippines this year because his Filipina wife is trying to clean him out of every dollar he's got.

Why would any guy get married?Never been fanatic in anyway when it comes to monogamy (or beeing faithful) but ofcourse I have tried my best not to sleep around when having a steady GF. From I was in my early 20'ies I decided that marriage was out of the question. Not that hard as in my country the marriage rate is going downhill and still is (these days. 20 years later, rates are even lower 40-50% of all couples living together get married). This was ofcourse also affected bcs my parents allways told me that marriage is no point realy even if they have been married for a good 40 years themself (and still is so they should know). I have a half pinay GF back home and she has asked me a couple of times about this (I know it is her pinay mother behind this). I have ofcourse not said yes and that is fine by her it seems as she is borned and raised in my country and pretty much know how this works but I guess most girls have this dream of a whitebride wedding and so on. In my country the same rules apply if you are married or if you just live together (after 6 months living together). Luckely we do not have this system where a split up or a divorce will affect your economy a great deal as I will get back what I brought into the relationship/marriage and my GF will get back her stuffs. My money is my money (even so some idiots are signing a privat agreement so the misses gets half what they own when getting married, hehe). If there is a child in the picture girls still get full time custody of the child (in most cases) but the government have regulated support rates for cases like this (you can ofcourse agree to pay more but then you make up a private contract through a lawyer). Everything you buy together you have to share though so in my case this is easy as I buy all the big things like housing, cabins, cars, vacations, furniture and my GF brings mostly food on the table and pay a few regular bills (electricity, cleaning, houseinsurance). I earn substantely more money than she does(student) so I be damned if she would have any of my money, my house, my cars and so on if we break up. My Gf is just finishing many years of university so I have supported her a bit more than I realy had to leaving her with no governmental debt (I guess this makes me feel better as I am not very faithful).

Another big downside by beeing hooked up is: How exciting can it be to fuck the same pussy for years and not cheat? I realy admire people able to do so but I simply don't know how they can manage. I get bored after a few months as we have been through the hole fuckprogram many times. I have no complaints towards my GF's in a sexual way as they have all been very giving and willing to explore. These days i infact think our sexlife is better due to my mongering bcs when I get back home my GF pussy seems relatively new to me so in a way I start from fresh again.

In my mongering I allways say in an early stage to the girls that I am not here for relationship of any kind. In a P4P market this is easy but sometimes in the datingsiteworld you will encounter contacts having hard time to get this even if they agree to meet. So my goal is fucking only and not marry (I don't say this will never change though but marriage, hm, I don't think so).

[FreebieFan]

Never been fanatic in anyway when it comes to monogamy (or beeing faithful) but ofcourse I have tried my best not to sleep around when having a steady GF.

Another big downside by beeing hooked up is: How exciting can it be to fuck the same pussy for years and not cheat? I realy admire people able to do so but I simply don't know how they can manage. I get bored after a few months as we have been through the hole fuckprogram many times. These days I infact think our sexlife is better due to my mongering bcs when I get back home my GF pussy seems relatively new to me so in a way I start from fresh again.

In my mongering I allways say in an early stage to the girls that I am not here for relationship of any kind. But sometimes in the datingsiteworld you will encounter contacts having hard time to get this even if they agree to meet. So my goal is fucking only and not marry (I don't say this will never change though but marriage, hm, I don't think so).Our website has a whole lot of different participants methinks.

Theres the guy who is hapily married but damn, he likes Asian puss and is on a business trip so no one will know.

There are the guys who have been married once twice thrice but keep hoping for that really big happy ever after.

There are the guys maybe like yourselves Skogis, who see the need to stay single and to milk it for all its worth.

There are the guys who are married but bored to tears with wifey and who play at every opportunity.

And the newly separated, who's downfall came about because of their playing (self included)

Have I missed anyone out?

[D Cups]

Why would any guy get married?I guess you guys are right. It seems to be a losing proposition for any guy, even if you marry a Filipina and stay in the Philippines. I've been a bachelor my whole life and was never faithful to any of my girlfriends. I suppose if you wanted to get married to have kids that would make sense but from what I hear from my married buddies that turns into a big headache, too. Still, I respect the guys that can do it.

[MangoBob68]

Enjoyed reading the past two day messages. I like to add my view. I am divorced from a Filipina here in USA. And yes, she made my life hell to get all the money she could get out of me being that said and at my age of 69 now. No way to want marriage again. I have been coming to the Philippines for the past 20 plus years and though I not as good a player as most of you. I do get lucky at times.

Yes, the same gf or live in partner can get old fast.

Talk about being in the candy shop. I have talked to girls who married / live in partner with a foreigner and they live in Angeles city together. I just laugh and say the girl asking for trouble from the start. One Filipina was a nurse and she came home early to find her husband in bed with her best friend. I am sure we all have stories like that one.

Ok back to the topic. I make a point to find girls in DIA or tagged who are ok with threesome and / or ok to have threesomes a few times each month. I tell the one girl she is #1. I will always be faithful to her but I want variety / enjoy fantasy and she is ok with it. I tell her to find a cousin or friend who can join us. She is ok with that. Knowing I will not drop her or go behind her back. (of course I could drop her) but as most of you know not easy to find a good one who is also open to play.

I have two sisters ages 19 and 26 who want to keep me around. Mainly for support. Yes, I have enjoyed the pleasure of them both in bed. They have an 18 year old cousin who wants to meet me and maybe end up being a foursome.

What I am trying to say. I am the kind of guy who can be happy with the same 3 pussies over a long period of time instead of marriage / instead of playing the field looking for new ones every week or day or month.

The one older sister has the right attitude. She knows that to keep me in her life (access to my wallet) she must accept having threesomes. She knows we men like to play around. She gets it. So she is eager to find partners. Cousins, schoolmates, neighbors to play with us.

The one biggest drawback to having a regular group of girls with me at one time. Is the daily cost of living expenses and there is no way I am taking them to other islands. Transportation too expensive.

In the past. I just fly alone to meet the girls. Example. One in Cebu then fly to Davao then fly to Cdo or just stick to Cebu where there are so so many to pick from.

Thus that is my happy middle point. Not stick to one woman but not play the field. At my age and past. I can be happy and not get bored with 2 or 3 regular girls to enjoy at the same time or individually.

One last point to share. There are so so many sexy young woman who are "separated". Who cannot marry and are ok with guys like us who not seek marriage any longer.

Good luck to all of us and thank God for Viagra as a back up.

[Socker]

Our website has a whole lot of different participants methinks.

Theres the guy who is happily married but damn, he likes Asian puss and is on a business trip so no one will know.

There are the guys who have been married once twice thrice but keep hoping for that really big happy ever after.

There are the guys maybe like yourselves Skogis, who see the need to stay single and to milk it for all its worth.

There are the guys who are married but bored to tears with wifey and who play at every opportunity.

And the newly separated, who's downfall came about because of their playing (self included)

Have I missed anyone out?Nice list but yeah you missed the happily married monger who is allowed free time to do what he / she wants.

As of 2013 I take 6 weeks off my marriage. I spent 2 + weeks in PI last Feb. And 8 days in Colombia 5/1/13. I plan on going back to So. America later this yr. For another 2 weeks. Tijuana is also on my rotation. My getaways involved wall to wall fucking and everything else is secondary. By 2015 I plan taking 8 weeks a year and play it by ear after that.

How do I do this w / out losing half my assets to a pissed off wife?

1. I have become prince charming. I do everything I can to make my wife happy, I / e flowers, money, travel, I love yous, dinners, housework. You name it I do it (excluding sex). We haven't had sex since 1999 because I'm not interested in that part of our relationship. Kissing and superficial things, yes but that's it. No FS for her! I bought her a vibrator a long time ago, maybe she uses it when I'm away, I hope so. There are other aspects of our marriage that also help me in my hobby but the bottom line is I want to be happy too and I'm really happy now.

The hobby is mighty powerful and guys like me need an anchor, my marriage is that anchor. I have to come home and take care of her and my other responsibilities and mellow out. Would I rather be unattached and free to do what I want when I want to? SURE THING! But I'm not, and when I think about it, it's a good thing I'm not.

Everything is great as long as I have peace of mind in my home. Right now I am the master of my domain (to a certain extent) and if I lived w / a young hottie and was responsible for her enjoyment it would be difficult to say the least. No, I'm happy to have a ball and chain that I can unlock during the year.

I fantasize about what it would be like to live in a foreign country and be neck deep in good young pussy everyday. It's very hard to imagine what that would be like and how I would operate on a daily basis.

I think I like what I have quite a bit. Is it easy to come back home and leave the awesome sex behind and have to wait a few months for more? No it's not easy and I feel it's getting harder to go thru each new year but it's still good for me to be home. I'm very happily married and I hope it stays that way.

The Colombiana's beckon me on Facebook everyday, really beautiful creatures, it's not getting easier.

Good topic, thanks.

[WhatsUrName]

Nice read about Prostitution in Asia and the customers thereof. Not that anyone on this board would be shocked to find that Koreans are the largest demographic for "single male visitors" nowadays.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/01/30/2013013001376.html

[Econo Tech]

nice read about prostitution in asia and the customers thereof. not that anyone on this board would be shocked to find that koreans are the largest demographic for "single male visitors" nowadays.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2013/01/30/2013013001376.htmlwhat is shocking is, that news is from a korean news site lol.

btw, what is more comical is, recently two under-age girls were rescued in pampanga and the news carried the bar name et al. when i asked a native where the bar was, the answer was odd.

he said "it is inside the basa airbase"

go figure.

and then they blame the foreigners for all **** women being abused.

[Wicked Roger]

I always tell people that pinoys shit on pinoys. It happens everywhere IMHO (the Middle East full of this scam and I know a few ils lumbered with debt due to disappearing relatives!)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/local-news/2013/05/26/pastor-12-partners-arrested-recruitment-scam-284302

Like see how the pastor explains his involvement. Administering to the poor LOL

[Lonely566]

RA 9208 penalizes any person who 'maintains or hires a person to engage in prostitution or pornography. '

The law's penalties range from six years in jail to life imprisonment and fines of P500, 000 to P2 million. Convicted foreigners will be deported after they serve their sentence and be barred permanently from the Philippines.

There goes my social life.

[Irony Monger]

RA 9208 penalizes any person who 'maintains or hires a person to engage in prostitution or pornography. ' . There goes my social life.Umm, that is a 10 year old law (May 2003, not 2013)

http://www.lawphil.net/statutes/repacts/ra2003/ra_9208_2003.html

If it hasn't killed your social life by now I wouldn't be too worried.

[Gajith]

Our website has a whole lot of different participants methinks.

Theres the guy who is hapily married but damn, he likes Asian puss and is on a business trip so no one will know.

There are the guys who have been married once twice thrice but keep hoping for that really big happy ever after.

There are the guys maybe like yourselves Skogis, who see the need to stay single and to milk it for all its worth.

There are the guys who are married but bored to tears with wifey and who play at every opportunity.

And the newly separated, who's downfall came about because of their playing (self included)

Have I missed anyone out?And the newly separated, because of external forces & egos and never played until separation :P (self included)

Thanks / G

[FreebieFan]

And the newly separated, because of external forces & egos and never played until separation :P (self included)

Thanks / GWelcome to the playing fields Sir. On your left are a variety of Asian ladies, on your right the Africans, and over there are the alrge white ladies.

Here on the Asain field, you will find the very playful, in that corner there are the serious but available, far over there are the ones available any time of day for the right "coin". Closer here are the girls who will dance you into happiness and just there are the young ones who are growing up fast.

All these playing fields are available to you. Please leave your ego at the door, no shinpads needed just go and ENJOY. Oh there are no rules so play for as long as you like.

[Red Kilt]

Head's up for those of you travelling within and outside the Philippines.

At NAIA 3 yesterday as told to me by a friend. At the X-ray security check to get to the gates, he was told that he couldn't bring the pirated DVDs he had in his hand carried bag onto the plane heading for Cebu.

He had to leave them behind. I have since learned that they were doing the same at NAIA1 last week with international flights.

Be forewarned patrons of fake CDs and DVDs. Be sure to put them into your check-in bags.

[Tally Wacker]

Be forewarned patrons of fake CDs and DVDs. Be sure to put them into your check-in bags.RK do you know what the quality of the fakes are? I've heard a few guys here purchase those and wondered if its worth it.

[Red Kilt]

RK do you know what the quality of the fakes are? I've heard a few guys here purchase those and wondered if its worth it.Very variable TW.

It ranges from excellent to extremely bad, although the really bad ones are less frequent nowadays. Some of the copies used to be filmed using a hand-held camera in a cinema with the sound echoing and even people moving across in front of the screen. I have one of those to prove it is not folk-lore. Thankfully it is not so common these days.

Interestingly enough, the couple of X-rated or porno videos I have seen are very clear copies.

So are some of the live music concerts that I have bought. I have very good quality AC / DC, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Bruce Springsteen concerts, and a great 4 dvd set of Pink Floyd to name just a few.

It pays to get the seller to test and let you preview them on the TV that is usually nearby (unless out on the street of course). In almost every case if I have found a dud I have had it readily replaced when I go back.

I have a trusted source in the St Francis Tiangge in Ortigas who will tell me if the quality is not good and that I should wait for a better copy. She also gives me a discount if I buy 3 or more at any one time so I bring family and friends there to stock up.

[FreebieFan]

I have a trusted source in the St Francis Tiangge in Ortigas who will tell me if the quality is not good and that I should wait for a better copy. She also gives me a discount if I buy 3 or more at any one time so I bring family and friends there to stock up.Makati Cinema Square have all been fine every time I've bought there. Quality of boxed sets though is now far higher here in China.

[KongKing]

Be forewarned patrons of fake CDs and DVDs. Be sure to put them into your check-in bags.Good information there Red Kilt. Now that I am in the Philippines I buy a lot of clearly fake DVDs. The quality is generally ok and are far more affordable than in the western world! As a result I have come to better appreciate the range of artists, songs, and with karaoke DVDS the lyrics of the songs.

Sometimes the translations are a laugh. I have "The First Clit is the Deepest" by Sheryl Crow;"Another Lay in Paradise" by Phil Collins, and a collection of songs by Bon Jom.

What can be frustrating is the so called English translation running under a movie in English. I have a fake copy of the new movie Les Miserables (very good) spoken in English but with gobbledygook English sub-titles underneath. I guess the original English was translated into Chinese and then someone has translated this Chinese back into meaningless English.

By the way where is "Makati Cinema Square"? Is this the converted shopping centre, movie houses now gone, across the road and adjacent to Eurotel Makati? There are many DVD shops there, and I found one specialising in classical music.

KongKing

[FreebieFan]

G.

By the way where is "Makati Cinema Square"? Is this the converted shopping centre, movie houses now gone, across the road and adjacent to Eurotel Makati? There are many DVD shops there, and I found one specialising in classical music.

KongKingIts a crappy old mall, dirty and ready for redevelopment thats yes, sort of opposite Eurotel. Many many small dvd stores there that are fine. Theres a store inside that has really high quality fake guns too. No idea why you need a fake gun, but they have excellent copies of all gun types.

[Hutsori]

Its a crappy old mall, dirty and ready for redevelopment thats yes, sort of opposite Eurotel. Many many small dvd stores there that are fine. Theres a store inside that has really high quality fake guns too. No idea why you need a fake gun, but they have excellent copies of all gun types.Crappy it is. I recall most if not all the DVD shops are in the basement. If you like good Japanese food the Little Tokyo complex is next door. The restaurant across the side street from the MCS parking lot entrance, i.e. NOT the ones on Pasong Tamo (aka Chino Roces), is the best of the lot.

[Gajith]

Welcome to the playing fields Sir. On your left are a variety of Asian ladies, on your right the Africans, and over there are the alrge white ladies.

Here on the Asain field, you will find the very playful, in that corner there are the serious but available, far over there are the ones available any time of day for the right "coin". Closer here are the girls who will dance you into happiness and just there are the young ones who are growing up fast.

All these playing fields are available to you. Please leave your ego at the door, no shinpads needed just go and ENJOY. Oh there are no rules so play for as long as you like.Thank You Sir! There is no more egos, all outside my door :P

[Red Kilt]

This made me laugh, especially the "first come, first served" comment LOL.

I wonder who cleans the boxes between clients?

I cannot see it taking off in the Philippines. It would be a boon for FLs / SWs.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/zurich-to-install-drive-in-sex-boxes-to-curb-street-prostitution/story-fnd134gw-1226527519905

[Econo Tech]

PH news.

Be low key. And don't mess with the natives. Please.

http://www.relax.com.sg/relax/news/1813460/Heated_exchange_gets_S_porean_on_immigration_blacklist.html

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/75781/singaporean-killed-in-qc-home-cops-eye-victims-helper

http://ireport.cnn.com/docs/DOC-678497

[Gangles]

Not much difference in concept between these sex boxes and the existing system in the Phils of ST drive in hotels.

G.


This made me laugh, especially the "first come, first served" comment LOL.

I wonder who cleans the boxes between clients?

I cannot see it taking off in the Philippines. It would be a boon for FLs / SWs.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/world/zurich-to-install-drive-in-sex-boxes-to-curb-street-prostitution/story-fnd134gw-1226527519905

[Gangles]

Hi RK.

Also in St Francis Square are a bunch of guys who can convert your DVD to MP4, so that it will easily fit onto a USB, and easily carried with you. I can't recall how much they charged, but I would get a "price for 10", give them the DVDs, and the USB, and come back later to collect. Always very reliable.

G


Very variable TW.

It ranges from excellent to extremely bad, although the really bad ones are less frequent nowadays. Some of the copies used to be filmed using a hand-held camera in a cinema with the sound echoing and even people moving across in front of the screen. I have one of those to prove it is not folk-lore. Thankfully it is not so common these days.

Interestingly enough, the couple of X-rated or porno videos I have seen are very clear copies.

So are some of the live music concerts that I have bought. I have very good quality AC / DC, Red Hot Chili Peppers and Bruce Springsteen concerts, and a great 4 dvd set of Pink Floyd to name just a few.

It pays to get the seller to test and let you preview them on the TV that is usually nearby (unless out on the street of course). In almost every case if I have found a dud I have had it readily replaced when I go back.

I have a trusted source in the St Francis Tiangge in Ortigas who will tell me if the quality is not good and that I should wait for a better copy. She also gives me a discount if I buy 3 or more at any one time so I bring family and friends there to stock up.

[Socker]

The movie was a self-serving piece of propaganda. That said, I must point out one thing to my fellow board members. Have you seen the dormitories many of the AC and Subic bar girls live in with 20 to 30 bunk beds and shit? I have. It is not right! Ok – flame me for pointing this out, but I don't like the fact that these girls live in what I consider to be intolerable conditions. I don't care about the average Filipino living wage. These girls are providing a personal service to me so I have an interest in how they live. I compare their living situation to that of my favorite BKK Go Go girl who is able to afford a small, but very nice studio apartment in a 24 hour secure building with her sister in a middle class Bangkok neighborhood. My BKK girl earns 2000bt ST / 3000bt LT and gets a cut from her lady drinks. The AC girls get their cut from the 1200p to 2000p EWR paid directly to the bar, but is it enough? The AC girls hate the dormitories and claim they can't afford their own apartments. I don't like the idea of paying more, but I think the girls need to earn enough from their EWR to at least afford to rent their own apartments and still send money back home. Some bar girls are superstars and are doing very well, but in general either the EWR too low or is the bar's percentage too high or am I missing something?Natty, I'm am w / you on this but I don't want the Bfines increased. That said if I knew an increase was going into the girls pockets I would still go to the Philippines. But that isn't going to happen because the people who run the show in the PI could care less about the less fortunate even if it is the goose that lays the golden eggs. AC is AC because of the hookers. I am sure there is prosperity there because of the girls and a huge amount of neglect toward the girls. The girls are treated badly in general and it need not be. The only positive is they are not starving on the side of the road covered w / dirt. They have a tough road but not because they're hookers, but because their country is extremely fucked up. How many of the world's countries are in a similar state. Extreme poverty is a terrible thing to see and except, but that is reality, it is meant to be this way for us humans.

For me I always ask why? In the last few years since I started mongering in foreign countries I asked myself. Am I a bad guy? Am I wrong to go (to another country) and buy a ladies time and have sex w / her? Well it wasn't easy to find the answer. Who is the judge? Is it the corrupt governments in every country esp my own? No. Is it the church who can judge me? No. The rule and law of the human race varies from city to city, state to state, and country to country so I can't find my answer w / the judgements of the human world. Not an honest answer anyway.

This is when I realized there are two worlds simultaneously running for each and every one of us.

The human world of laws and morals and the natural world w / all creatures included and w / no morals or concepts of right and wrong. Man's laws ever changing from country to country and from time to time. Natures law never changes, maybe a little over thousands of years. So for me I asked Nature if I'm a bad guy for going down the block or around the world for the pussy I need and the answer was no.

The answer is, sex is not only for procreation (species survival) but just as importantly leverage for the weaker sex.

The important part.

Hypothetical; What if in our evolution we (male and female humans) procreated w / seeds. Lets just say the earliest human beings had a pouch on their legs and eventually the pouch opened and the seeds mixed w / the soil and new humans were born this way. There was no sex, it was the seeds that humans relied on. If this scenario happened than today there would be no females. If sex was not required than women would have been eliminated by the much stronger males. W / out sex no women in our world. They were completely unnecessary and became extinct.

This is how I know what I'm doing is not a bad thing.

Fast forward to now 2013. Am I selfish? Shit yeah I'm selfish but I worked hard all my life and I want to self indulge. Who benefits? I do of course and more importantly the women of the Philippines benefit. This is Nature's intent, it is not an accident that I want to spend thousands of dollars in a poor country. Money is comfort and power (for the girls) and I am happily bringing as much as I can. Once again, this is not an accident.

I believe my theory just stated here on ISG. It is my opinion of course and I'll probably get some grief for it but this is what I believe. For me I have come to understand that there is only one perfect concept and that is nature. There is no right or wrong only a benevolent and cruel balance involving all things known and unknown. If you can step (way) out and look at the human race w / out bias, it gets scary. Death is as beautiful as life in nature, it's hard to stop wondering about our place here and what's really right and wrong in the human world. I know we like to cover the earth in concrete, we're good at that.

So.

Not preaching, I just thought some guys would get a kick out of my search for answers.

I also believe we should treat the goose that lays the golden eggs as well as possible. I do my part when I'm on the road.

Piece.

[GoodEnough]

Last night a Cebu Pacific flight en route from Manila to Davao overshot the runway and all passangers had to be evacuated using the emergency slides. It seems that while the plane was on its final approach all of the runway lights went out due to a power failure. No one was killed or injured seriously, but the incident demonstrates the utter lack of concern here for public safety.

GE

[Econo Tech]

Last night a Cebu Pacific flight en route from Manila to Davao overshot the runway and all passangers had to be evacuated using the emergency slides. It seems that while the plane was on its final approach all of the runway lights went out due to a power failure. No one was killed or injured seriously, but the incident demonstrates the utter lack of concern here for public safety.

GEGet real man. What crash? Maybe something to do with another "Gas Leak". LOL.

That's what I heard, for the Serendra blast.

[GoodEnough]

I have a colleague who was on the unfortunate Cebu Pathetic flight that overshot the runway last night. According to him, the passengers were kept on the plane for about 30 minutes until the tower gave "permission" for the emergency debarkation; this despite the fact that according to one passenger an engine was on fire, and according to another, the smell of smoke was discernible in the the cabin. These guys are as inept in airport operations as they are with everything else having to do with public safety.

It's fascinating to read the list of reasons for the crash, which include:the windshield wiper wasn't working; the runway lights went out due to a power failure; an engine caught fire; the runway was wet and the plane hydroplaned when it hit the tarmac. I have no idea which, if any of these are actually true. However, I do know that Cebu Pathetic couldn't even transport these poor folks to the terminal, so they all had to trudge about a kilometer to safety, were offered nothing in the way of food or drink, and then had to wait until after 10 PM for their luggage. If anyone needs a metaphor for the utter contempt in which the public is held here, this one should suffice for a while. I've also been told that it took the "emergency response team" about 30 minutes to arrive. What a joke!

Since the incident occurred last night at about 7:30, until now (15:00 the next day) , there have been no flights to or from the airport and as of mid morning at least the plane was still there blocking the runway.

GE

[BionicMan]

I have a colleague who was on the unfortunate Cebu Pathetic flight that overshot the runway last night. According to him, the passengers were kept on the plane for about 30 minutes until the tower gave "permission" for the emergency debarkation; this despite the fact that according to one passenger an engine was on fire, and according to another, the smell of smoke was discernible in the the cabin. These guys are as inept in airport operations as they are with everything else having to do with public safety.Since the incident occurred last night at about 7:30, until now (15:00 the next day) , there have been no flights to or from the airport and as of mid morning at least the plane was still there blocking the runway.GEIt is not at tower discretion to order the evacuation but at the captain of the aircraift.

There are also contradicting information:

°°°°A passenger, Jun Narciso, told Rappler that one of the plane's engines was already on fire before landing. °°°

*Another passenger, Laiza Lacida, however claimed the engine was not on fire before landing."We can smell smoke inside the plane but the plane was not on fire," she said*

[Nightrider1]

Read this in a Phil blog and thought it was worth posting here as just another example of why the Phil is, and will remain a third world country. Not that we care when we are between the sheets with some sweet Filipina.

For those unfortunate enough to live in AC aka the RH, be aware that the so called LTO office at SM is broken.

They will not tell you that they are broken. Instead they will run you through the fake medical exam and collect your money. Then they will tell you to take your documents to window 1 to get your new drivers license. Only then will they tell you they are "broken".

Apparently they broke their single printer and have no backups and have no maintenance agreements. So they are looking for someone who can fix the broken printer.

So when you show up at window 1 to finish your processing you are told to go find yourself another LTO to do the work they cannot do.

I asked them why they didn't post a notice or inform those that appear to obtain a renewal that they are "broken". As usual in this back end of the Philippines it appears to be beyond their basic ability to comprehend.

They did claim that they hope, no promises, to actually be able to do their job sometime in the next month. However knowing the local area, that is likely to meant next year. .

Just another day in the RH.

[Econo Tech]

I asked them why they didn't post a notice or inform those that appear to obtain a renewal that they are "broken". As usual in this back end of the Philippines it appears to be beyond their basic ability to comprehend.Nope. Don't underestimate pinoys. They may have a protocol and process and legal framework to handle broken printers. So the main thing is, did they follow 'protocols'?

So. Try as you may, you cannot' convict them for inefficiency. Just like the recent anti-drinking law. Left with too many loopholes so that should a driver kill a pedestrian, while drunk, he may drag his case while he becomes a congressman and do two terms before his case gets called finally

Yep, welcome to the Philippines.

PS: I am not sure if I posted this here, but. Recently an educated Filipino friend swore that Taiwan is a Province of China. No kidding, because, based on Protocol and PH's recognition of ONE CHINA, TW doesn't exist. And then they scratch their arses wondering why the Taiwanese are mighty pissed off at the Filipinos, never mind that Ph has a million times to loose than TW, if relations sour. (oh, a Filipino proudly claimed Taiwans' manufacturing sector will die without filiipinos, somebody forgot to tell him there are others willing to step in. And cheaper as well)

[FreebieFan]

, but. Recently an educated Filipino friend swore that Taiwan is a Province of China. No kidding, because, based on Protocol and PH's recognition of ONE CHINA, TW doesn't exist. And then they scratch their arses wondering why the Taiwanese are mighty pissed off at the Filipinos, never mind that Ph has a million times to loose than TW, if relations sour. (oh, a Filipino proudly claimed Taiwans' manufacturing sector will die without filiipinos, somebody forgot to tell him there are others willing to step in. And cheaper as well)Go to some websites with the geographical pull down menus and it will show Taiwan as province of China there too. Maybe it was badoo or plenty of fish but one of those types clearly werent sure how to classify Taiwan. And so when inputting a phone number for cuties to contact you (I formerly lived in taiwan) it kept advising. : not a valid number for PRC ". Dohhh.

Well there are many pinays working in Taiwan thats for sure. Having lived there and having bedded many I know. But there are also Indonesians, Vietnamese and many Thais. Again, the Philippines always thinks its the biggest and the best and totally indispensable. Sad that their knowledge is based on "pinoy pride" and not factual.

[Member #4387]

Well I don't know the details around the incident in Davao with the overshooting of runway. But overshooting a runway do not imidiately calls for an emergency. That depends on many factors (how far you overshoot, the aircarft still intact and not burning (then it is better to keep passengers inside until emergency personell can arrive with stairwyas and needed equipment). Overshooting can be ofcourse serious shit according to Air France in Montereal not many years ago. Probelm in this case could have been that after oversooting a runway manuals for cockpitcrew say shut down the engines. If engines start burn after shutdown no signals will be transfered into the cockpit malfunctionpanels and from the cockpit you can not see the engines.

I don't excuse the captain of this flight, that in most cases a rapid escape comes in handy, but he also have certain conserns of passangers running all around tarmac area with probably other aircraftmovements after escaping. Maby he did a good call or not I don't know. With an engine on fire we talk about rapid getting the slides out and passengers out but not on the wings though. Have to advice passengers to not use overwingexits atleast not on the side the engine is burning. Maby he got a late call on this.

But the ordersystem inside an aircraft is captain, first officer, chief of cabin and than down to passengers. This incident will be investigated by european investigators aslong as this was an european aircraft(a319, 320, 321)so we will know eventually.

[BionicMan]

Well I don't know the details around the incident in Davao with the overshooting of runway.

But the ordersystem inside an aircraft is captain, first officer, chief of cabin and than down to passengers. This incident will be investigated by european investigators aslong as this was an european aircraft (a319, 320, 321) so we will know eventually.Well said and exposed, Skogis.

[Wicked Roger]

This incident will be investigated by european investigators aslong as this was an european aircraft(a319, 320, 321)so we will know eventually.Agreed and one of them is a mate of mine. He has the hardship of investigating this while surrounded by pinays (tough job as he said!

[Wicked Roger]

I saw this headline in the newspaper and thought "yes there is a God"

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/104763/call-center-workers-told-to-have-more-sex-in-their-lives

But alas the sex they refer to is not what we on this board would understand LOL

[Gangles]

Having recently completed a 7 week sojourn in the PI, and having bareback sex with 10 women, on my return, I went to my doc for a complete set of tests for every STI.

I do this after every trip, and I post the results here, to provide some real numbers and one statistic in the discussion of risk factors in bareback sex.

The test results came back clean. No STI.

This brings to about 440 the number of women with whom I have had sex without a condom throughout my life. And not one single case of STI.

For your information.

G

[D Cups]

Hi WR,

Sex does reduce stress and is a form of exercise, especially with all the "equipment" you use haha so perhaps all the call center girls will be more active in the pursuit of getting laid due to this new program. Regards.


I saw this headline in the newspaper and thought "yes there is a God"

http://lifestyle.inquirer.net/104763/call-center-workers-told-to-have-more-sex-in-their-lives

But alas the sex they refer to is not what we on this board would understand LOL

[AfAsia]

Having recently completed a 7 week sojourn in the PI, and having bareback sex with 10 women, on my return, I went to my doc for a complete set of tests for every STI.

I do this after every trip, and I post the results here, to provide some real numbers and one statistic in the discussion of risk factors in bareback sex.

The test results came back clean. No STI.

This brings to about 440 the number of women with whom I have had sex without a condom throughout my life. And not one single case of STI.

For your information.

GIs there anything you believe you do different which offers more resistance to STD's, apart from following a good HEALTHY diet?

I can concur with your report, however I once got an STD, my only caveat is I get a bad tummy no matter where I travel worldwide except Africa where I originate, must be the water. How clean the bottled water is anybodies guess. I am a heavy vitamin C user, never ever take any pharmaceuticals at all, not even for headache.

[Fast Eddie 48]

I have a colleague who was on the unfortunate Cebu Pathetic flight that overshot the runway last night. According to him, the passengers were kept on the plane for about 30 minutes until the tower gave "permission" for the emergency debarkation; this despite the fact that according to one passenger an engine was on fire, and according to another, the smell of smoke was discernible in the the cabin. These guys are as inept in airport operations as they are with everything else having to do with public safety.

It's fascinating to read the list of reasons for the crash, which include:the windshield wiper wasn't working; the runway lights went out due to a power failure; an engine caught fire; the runway was wet and the plane hydroplaned when it hit the tarmac. I have no idea which, if any of these are actually true. However, I do know that Cebu Pathetic couldn't even transport these poor folks to the terminal, so they all had to trudge about a kilometer to safety, were offered nothing in the way of food or drink, and then had to wait until after 10 PM for their luggage. If anyone needs a metaphor for the utter contempt in which the public is held here, this one should suffice for a while. I've also been told that it took the "emergency response team" about 30 minutes to arrive. What a joke!

Since the incident occurred last night at about 7:30, until now (15:00 the next day) , there have been no flights to or from the airport and as of mid morning at least the plane was still there blocking the runway.

GEGE,

I don't understand why they need the tower is ok a emergency evaculation, the airline personal should be train for this type of emergency you think safetly first, just like the HK tourist hostage no plan no training and no brain.

Fast Eddie 48

[Fast Eddie 48]

Is there anything you believe you do different which offers more resistance to STD's, apart from following a good HEALTHY diet?

I can concur with your report, however I once got an STD, my only caveat is I get a bad tummy no matter where I travel worldwide except Africa where I originate, must be the water. How clean the bottled water is anybodies guess. I am a heavy vitamin C user, never ever take any pharmaceuticals at all, not even for headache.Noddy,

Vitamin D and D3 is for Immune system Health the best way is to use Condom and never Bareback in any country

Fast Eddie 48

[Econo Tech]

Go to some websites with the geographical pull down menus and it will show Taiwan as province of China there too. Maybe it was badoo or plenty of fish but one of those types clearly werent sure how to classify Taiwan. And so when inputting a phone number for cuties to contact you (I formerly lived in taiwan) it kept advising. : not a valid number for PRC ". Dohhh.Well, for general public it is ok. But for the Govt to insist the official party line that TW is part of China. Well. Makes you a lot of friends I guess.


Well there are many pinays working in Taiwan thats for sure. Having lived there and having bedded many I know. But there are also Indonesians, Vietnamese and many Thais. Again, the Philippines always thinks its the biggest and the best and totally indispensable. Sad that their knowledge is based on "pinoy pride" and not factual.Yes, totally indispensible. Heck, even the USN will wind down ops, if the cooks depart. And Singapore and HK will have riots, if the maids depart.

Yah right. It is true. No wonder Malaysia has been getting Cambodian Maids and Singapore is getting Myanmar and Cambodian maids. Indispensible, yes. 100%

[WhatsUrName]

Last year, Sir Lancelot came to the Philippines and wrote up an excellent Field Report for AC. He is back in Asia, and currently working his way through three weeks in Bangkok, Pattaya, and Cambodia. In case anyone is interested in his exploits, here is the start of his diary:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2184-General-Reports&p=1426904#post1426904

[X Man]

Congratulations. I find your post troubling. You sound like a high school boy bragging.


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[Sammon]

Having recently completed a 7 week sojourn in the PI, and having bareback sex with 10 women, on my return, I went to my doc for a complete set of tests for every STI.

I do this after every trip, and I post the results here, to provide some real numbers and one statistic in the discussion of risk factors in bareback sex.

The test results came back clean. No STI.

This brings to about 440 the number of women with whom I have had sex without a condom throughout my life. And not one single case of STI.

For your information.

GSTD are not transferred easily. Usually rough sex causing tears on the skin of your penis is the entry point for germs. Of course if there is blood to blood contact during intercourse it is dangerous.

I have been many countries and of course bare backed quite a few. Except for sore throat, cold etc no problem with STD. I tend to go after non pros more often.

STD transmission also depends on your body resistance.

Most Phi girls go bareback both pros and non pros. Many of them probably have some STD which goes unnoticed. Generally smell is the noticeable factor but not the only symptom. Most non pros and some pros I have been with have zero smell.

According to statistics HIV is more infective in active AIDS stage rather than just being HIV positive. Most common is chlamydia in women. It is easily noticed with smell and bad smelling discharge. Just because you did not.

Catch anything does not mean everybody should go bareback. I would caution guys who have wives, girlfriends to be careful because it is hard to explain later how you got infected.

[Member #4491]

You sound like a high school boy bragging.For you maybe. For me he sounds like Gangles sharing facts about his life.

Everyone else should however wear a condom so me (and Gangles) can fill those lovely teen twats with our sperm. I dislike sex in a condom and only use it if I did not test the girl (yes I carry rapid STD test kits) , if she works as a pro for a living or if her pussy smells or looks like carp.

B.

[Bob Bowie]

Congratulations. I find your post troubling. You sound like a high school boy bragging.Gangles, I found your post informative. I encourage and appreciate the sharing of information*

[RoadGlide]

STD are not transferred easily. Usually rough sex causing tears on the skin of your penis is the entry point for germs. Of course if there is blood to blood contact during intercourse it is dangerous.

I have been many countries and of course bare backed quite a few. Except for sore throat, cold etc no problem with STD. I tend to go after non pros more often.

STD transmission also depends on your body resistance.

Most Phi girls go bareback both pros and non pros. Many of them probably have some STD which goes unnoticed. Generally smell is the noticeable factor but not the only symptom. Most non pros and some pros I have been with have zero smell.

According to statistics HIV is more infective in active AIDS stage rather than just being HIV positive. Most common is chlamydia in women. It is easily noticed with smell and bad smelling discharge. Just because you did not.

Catch anything does not mean everybody should go bareback. I would caution guys who have wives, girlfriends to be careful because it is hard to explain later how you got infected.Only time I have gotten an STD was from a non-pro filillipina in my home town that just got a divorce.

[PussyFeelsGood]

for you maybe. for me he sounds like gangles sharing facts about his life.

everyone else should however wear a condom so me (and gangles) can fill those lovely teen twats with our sperm. i dislike sex in a condom and only use it if i did not test the girl (yes i carry rapid std test kits) , if she works as a pro for a living or if her pussy smells or looks like carp.

b.can you get a rapid std kit while in pi? where?

how does it work ask them to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in a cup? lol.

how much do they cost?

thanks

[AfAsia]

Noddy,

Vitamin D and D3 is for Immune system Health.

Fast Eddie 48Yes. Been taking D3 for some months now. Stocked up today for the trip in due course. Heaven forbid I get stopped on arrival at customs they will be somewhat confused and require explanation as to all the health products I carry, more so than luggage LOL.

To name a few: Omega3, Multi Vitamin, Spirulina, Chlorella, Vit C, Vit D, Cocoa powder and various other concoctions.

[Member #4491]

can you get a rapid std kit while in pi? where?

how does it work ask them to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in a cup? lol.

how much do they cost?

thanksno idea, but i never saw them being sold in pi. i bring them. you can google it and will find many options.

b.

[Slippery]

If you're my age Noddy, its self explanatory.

[FreebieFan]

Well, for general public it is ok. But for the Govt to insist the official party line that TW is part of China. Well. Makes you a lot of friends I guess.

Yah right. It is true. No wonder Malaysia has been getting Cambodian Maids and Singapore is getting Myanmar and Cambodian maids. Indispensible, yes. 100%Yeah but lets not forget the reason why Malaysia is getting Cambodian maids. Simply there has been a long term ban on Indonesia sending maids to Malaysia as those wonderful Malaysians keep on burning the maids, starving them, killing them in all sorts of horrible ways. Ok we are totally off topic here.

[Econo Tech]

Only time I have gotten an STD was from a non-pro filillipina in my home town that just got a divorce.Hope the hubby having contracted STI wasn't the ground for her divorce LOL.

BTW, many pinays accept STIs as norm and will not go on to accuse anybody of transmitting to them. At least the few I know very well.

Yep, did pay for a few non-working girls to get themselves checked, when they had UTI and it turned out they had some or other STIs. And none did blame their ex-BF / husband as a possible source of transfer.

Though one thing I did notice is, when non-working girls feel something wrong, they aren't going to let you dip your wicker, they prefer to blow you dry and then admit they have something wrong down there.

Poor things.

[Econo Tech]

can you get a rapid std kit while in pi? where?

how does it work ask them to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in a cup? lol.

how much do they cost?

thanksnot all sti can be detected by peeing in a cup, and i am not talking hiv / aids here. lol

[Econo Tech]

Yeah but lets not forget the reason why Malaysia is getting Cambodian maids. Simply there has been a long term ban on Indonesia sending maids to Malaysia as those wonderful Malaysians keep on burning the maids, starving them, killing them in all sorts of horrible ways. Ok we are totally off topic here.Yep, off topic, but. Then again, some stuff the Indonesian Maids do in Singapore is pretty mind blowing. Like one, who mixed the contents of sanitary pads the food she cooked for bosses to curse them. And another who secretly fed the baby salt to keep the baby under her spell. Etc. Etc. All caught on camera by suspicious employers. And in the above cases, the maids were not abused, simply they became paranoid or become mental.

I am not condoning abuse, but some girls simply shouldn't be working as maids. Especially from Indonesia, as quite a few of them falsely declare their age as 25 or more when in reality they are much much younger. What do expect from a 18 year old girl living in a foreign land and working long hours?

[Soapy Smith]

PS: I am not sure if I posted this here, but. Recently an educated Filipino friend swore that Taiwan is a Province of China. No kidding, because, based on Protocol and PH's recognition of ONE CHINA, TW doesn't exist. And then they scratch their arses wondering why the Taiwanese are mighty pissed off at the Filipinos, never mind that Ph has a million times to loose than TW, if relations sour. (oh, a Filipino proudly claimed Taiwans' manufacturing sector will die without filiipinos, somebody forgot to tell him there are others willing to step in. And cheaper as well)I believe there are only 20 or so countries that have official ambassadorial relations with Taiwan, and most are small, insignificant countries. In Europe only the Vatican City has official relations, nor do Australia, Canada, or the U.S. Those that go as far as the Philippines and insist that Taiwan is a province of the PRC are essentially kowtowing to the PRC, who instruct countries that want relations with themselves (PRC) that they must acknowledge Taiwan as a PRC province. Larger countries obviously call the bluff of the PRC, but the Philippines is hardly the only kowtowing country. Even the U.S. closed down its embassy several decades ago under pressure from the PRC. I don't recall the exact history, but I think it more or less coincided with the UN awarding the PRC a permanent seat on the Security Council.

The Filipino insisting that his countrymen are critical to Taiwanese manufacturing is apparently unaware that many, if not most, of the PRC's electronics factories are owned by Taiwanese.

[Soapy Smith]

STD are not transferred easily. Usually rough sex causing tears on the skin of your penis is the entry point for germs. Of course if there is blood to blood contact during intercourse it is dangerous.So does this mean men with smaller penises are less susceptible? Just asking.

[Hutsori]

So does this mean men with smaller penises are less susceptible? Just asking.No STI's in Korea. Just sayin'.

[Soapy Smith]

If anyone needs a metaphor for the utter contempt in which the public is held here, this one should suffice for a while. GEAnother way to conceptualize this is to ask why Filipinos don't speak up, why they put up with such crap. It's not only the failure to speak up when government or corporations screw them over, they also don't speak up with each other when somebody screws over others. Cutting lines in a pharmacy (or anywhere else) is reinforced by average, low-wage clerks, who just go ahead and wait on the line-cutter. But I also can't remember other customers complaining either. Similarly, jeepney and FX drivers pack their vehicles so full that some passengers truly travel in pain-and often the driver overloads the legal passenger capacity painted on the outside of the vehicle. Bus drivers and their hawkers do likewise, even to the point of putting frail passengers in unsafe standing positions in buses that sway and abruptly stop and start, just to jockey in front of another vehicle or to scoop up yet another ticket paying passenger. But nobody complains. Possibly the cultural taboo against causing others to lose face? I would sooner believe it's a class divide dynamic: average Filipinos are just so accommodated to the wishes of the Church, the colonials, the occupying Japanese, and the dynastic families that they accept it as their fate-or perhaps know in practical terms that they can't really change things anyway. And eventually the have-nots just mimic what they see the haves doing.

[Hutsori]

I believe there are only 20 or so countries that have official ambassadorial relations with Taiwan, and most are small, insignificant countries. In Europe only the Vatican City has official relations, nor do Australia, Canada, or the U.S. Those that go as far as the Philippines and insist that Taiwan is a province of the PRC are essentially kowtowing to the PRC, who instruct countries that want relations with themselves (PRC) that they must acknowledge Taiwan as a PRC province. Larger countries obviously call the bluff of the PRC, but the Philippines is hardly the only kowtowing country. Even the U.S. closed down its embassy several decades ago under pressure from the PRC. I don't recall the exact history, but I think it more or less coincided with the UN awarding the PRC a permanent seat on the Security Council.The United States switched diplomatic recognition from the Republic of China (ROC) to the People's Republic of China (PRC) in 1979. The ROC kept China's seat and membership of the UN (and permanent UNSC seat) until 1971, when it was succeeded by the PRC. The One-China Principle, i.e. Taiwan is a part of China and Beijing is the government, is a requirement for any country to establish diplomatic relations with the PRC. Countries have some wiggle room, using such terms terms like "acknowledge","understand","take note of", while others explicitly use the term "support" or "recognize" for Beijing's position on the status of Taiwan. I've found no evidence that the Philippines "insists" this. Is it kowtowing for a state to "acknowledge","understand", or "support" Beijing's position? Up for debate. Malacanang Palace directly speaking to the Taiwanese leadership re any issue would be a breach of the One-China Policy / Principle. Same holds true for any other state having diplomatic relations with Beijing.

[Econo Tech]

Another way to conceptualize this is to ask why Filipinos don't speak up, why they put up with such crap. .Well, that part of the conditioning is encoded in their genes.

Never doubt those in power. Like. If they are senators, they cannot do wrong. LOL vote them in repeatedly. Even when they squander the country.


.And some conspiracy theorist state that since PNoy is semi-Chinese, he is kissing China's butt. So he may repeat word for word what China wants to say, including stating that TW is a province of China.

Well. Hypocrites. If they treat TW like that they should ban anybody from working there. Now they couldn't do it right?

PS: that the PH Govt cannot talk directly to TW govt is like the same story what PH Govt used, when refusing to talk to the HK Govt, when the bus story happened. When the HK Chief called to talk to PH President, despite the gravity of the issue, and the death of the HK Tourists, the PH president refused to talk to him saying he is breaching protocols."you are not the head of state, so I will not talk to you."

Yah right. The get that legal jumbo mumbo / protocol part right. Always

[Sammon]

Another way to conceptualize this is to ask why Filipinos don't speak up, why they put up with such crap. It's not only the failure to speak up when government or corporations screw them over, they also don't speak up with each other when somebody screws over others. Cutting lines in a pharmacy (or anywhere else) is reinforced by average, low-wage clerks, who just go ahead and wait on the line-cutter. But I also can't remember other customers complaining either. Similarly, jeepney and FX drivers pack their vehicles so full that some passengers truly travel in pain-and often the driver overloads the legal passenger capacity painted on the outside of the vehicle. Bus drivers and their hawkers do likewise, even to the point of putting frail passengers in unsafe standing positions in buses that sway and abruptly stop and start, just to jockey in front of another vehicle or to scoop up yet another ticket paying passenger. But nobody complains. Possibly the cultural taboo against causing others to lose face? I would sooner believe it's a class divide dynamic: average Filipinos are just so accommodated to the wishes of the Church, the colonials, the occupying Japanese, and the dynastic families that they accept it as their fate-or perhaps know in practical terms that they can't really change things anyway. And eventually the have-nots just mimic what they see the haves doing.You are speaking on the perspective of freedom loving western people. Many countries in the world are name sake democracies only. People do not have power. If they start voicing themselves they will get into trouble with police harassment etc and can be taken to jail. In effect many of the countries act as authoritarian government where only the rich and powerfull with connections can do whatever they want.

Another problem is too much population and less infrastructure forcing people to crowd buses and trains. When you are poor you learn to accept the fate. Having said that Phi people are one of the friendliest people. In spite oftTheir poverty willing to share what they have and eager to help others.

Even in the provinces the buses, vans are crowded. Bus stations can be compared to local fair with hawkers, food vendors, children running amok, only thing missing is the Ferris wheel.

[BionicMan]

I believe there are only 20 or so countries that have official ambassadorial relations with Taiwan, and most are small, insignificant countries.

The Filipino insisting that his countrymen are critical to Taiwanese manufacturing is apparently unaware that many, if not most, of the PRC's electronics factories are owned by Taiwanese.Very true, and ALL the countries do have significant business with RoC, aka Taiwan.

Taiwanese own tons of factories in PRC and SEA, starting and moving them according to local salary levels.

[Khekada]

Dear Friends.

I am planning my first ever trip to Phil. Is in contact for some girls (chatmates) and expecting a bash soon when I reach Phil. I am confused on a point what is correct I'd for the girl which shows she is not minor. What is expected in hotels or resorts? I asked most of the girls about I'd and got funny reply like school I'd, or I'd from any private institution, some simplly say no I'd required. I know a passport is most conclusive, but most of the girls do not hold a passport.

Please help me what I'd to look for?

Regards,

KHEKADA

[Sam 14]

Oh, I see. They must be using the broken one that came from Dumaguete. A week and a half ago I went to the LTO in Dgte to get my DL and couldn't because they said their printer was broken and was going to Manila.


Read this in a Phil blog and thought it was worth posting here as just another example of why the Phil is, and will remain a third world country. Not that we care when we are between the sheets with some sweet Filipina.

For those unfortunate enough to live in AC aka the RH, be aware that the so called LTO office at SM is broken.

They will not tell you that they are broken. Instead they will run you through the fake medical exam and collect your money. Then they will tell you to take your documents to window 1 to get your new drivers license. Only then will they tell you they are "broken".

Apparently they broke their single printer and have no backups and have no maintenance agreements. So they are looking for someone who can fix the broken printer.

So when you show up at window 1 to finish your processing you are told to go find yourself another LTO to do the work they cannot do.

I asked them why they didn't post a notice or inform those that appear to obtain a renewal that they are "broken". As usual in this back end of the Philippines it appears to be beyond their basic ability to comprehend.

They did claim that they hope, no promises, to actually be able to do their job sometime in the next month. However knowing the local area, that is likely to meant next year. .

Just another day in the RH.

[Member #4387]

I went out to test if you could buy this in phils withour prescription from a doc. At Mercury drugstore around the corner from Outback Steakhouse close to Ascott Makati entrance you could by as many 250mg or 500mg Zithromax pills as you like. Atleast so it seemed. I bought 6x500mg at the price of approx 150php per tablet as my usual precaution.

So then I guess this goes for the rest of the Mercury's around as well. Other brands were not tested as I suceeded in my first attempt and got what I looked for.

[Gangles]

Some time ago, I had malaria, which is about the most miserable disease on planet earth.

It was eventually cured after many years. So I am a bit paranoid about getting it again.

So whenever I am in a developing country, which includes all of SA Asia, I take doxycyclin every day as a prophylactic.

When I have discussed the results of my STD situation with sex health professionals, they commonly point out that doxycyclin is also a good prophylactic with the bacterial forms of STI. So maybe that is providing some form of protection.

Pete Benetar wrote several posts about pharmaceuticals which will provide protection against some STIs.

So since this last trip, I now combine doxycyclin with Amoxycillin, and that should provide protection against most of the bacterial forms of STI.

The reason why I post these figures is because many, or most, governments in developed countries publish misinformation about STIs. They greatly inflate the statistics, and / or the likelihood of catching an STI. I assume that this is to minimise the load that STIs place on the government funded national health system. So this creates unwarranted fear in your perception of risk. By publishing my statistic, I hope to provide some reliable information on which you can make your own decisions.

As a side note. If you look at the photos which are posted in the photo thread, you will see that a significantly large proportion of the guys are bareback, which might tell you something.

G.

Of the 440 or so women that I have sexed bareback in my report, about 20% were Australian. 35% American, and the remainder in SE Asia.


Is there anything you believe you do different which offers more resistance to STD's, apart from following a good HEALTHY diet?

I can concur with your report, however I once got an STD, my only caveat is I get a bad tummy no matter where I travel worldwide except Africa where I originate, must be the water. How clean the bottled water is anybodies guess. I am a heavy vitamin C user, never ever take any pharmaceuticals at all, not even for headache.

[Red Kilt]

. I bought 6x500mg at the price of approx 150php per tablet as my usual precaution.What exactly are you doing with the Zithromax? Are you doing it with medical advice?

Seems from your use of the word "precaution" that you are popping this heavy duty drug hoping that you will be protected when you inevitably encounter a woman with an unexpected "germ" of unknown origin but I would be pleased to be corrected if I have a wrong impression.

As a person with a higher degree in Science, I fear that you are not doing your relatively young immune system any favors as well as wasting your time, but that's just MHO after having discussed the pros and cons of Zithromax quite recently with my friendly urino-genital specialist.

[Gangles]

Every now and then, something happens which gives us a real laugh.

During my last trip, I had organised a 3 day photo shoot while I was in Cebu.

On the first day, at about the right time, the mamasan turned up with the models. We took down particulars, and checked I'd for age etc.

Then the girls bundled into the big bathroom to get themselves ready.

After a while, there was an agonised wail. When I checked, it was one of the girls complaining about the rotten taste of the toothpaste.

When I checked the toothpaste tube, I found that, in ignorance, she had used the KY jelly. We all had a laugh at here expense and then we got on with it.

Life never gets tedious.

G

[Econo Tech]

Dear Friends.

I am planning my first ever trip to Phil. Is in contact for some girls (chatmates) and expecting a bash soon when I reach Phil. I am confused on a point what is correct I'd for the girl which shows she is not minor. What is expected in hotels or resorts? I asked most of the girls about I'd and got funny reply like school I'd, or I'd from any private institution, some simplly say no I'd required. I know a passport is most conclusive, but most of the girls do not hold a passport.

Please help me what I'd to look for?

Regards,

KHEKADADon't be shocked if many girls don't have any ID, or bring some home-made ID.

Some carry the I'd they were issued when they worked in Super market (which means they are possibly quite over 18.) and some fake it to get their sister into bar etc. Etc.

If in doubt, walk away. Asking for I'd may give you deer-in-headlight looks.

[Soapy Smith]

If they start voicing themselves they will get into trouble with police harassment etc and can be taken to jail.I would be interested to learn of instances in which people complaining about line-cutters at Mercury Drugs or jeepney drivers overloading the passenger limits of their vehicles have been taken to jail. Please do share the details if you know of some actual cases. I always appreciate learning from surprising evidence.

Recently I learned about some aspects of the informal economy that suggest Filipinos are not always so docile. A natural laboratory exists in the Monumento area of Caloocan City. The sidewalks are packed with various unlicensed vendors selling clothes, shoes, toys, electronic accessories, fruit and vegetables, and so on. At night many more roll in carts and literally block one or two of the traffic lanes of Rizal Avenue in the area under the LRT station. But many vendors are actually organized into member associations, and there are some overarching umbrella groups that represent various informal sector groups throughout the metro area. Political candidates recruit votes from the vendor associations with promises that they'll protect them from police enforcement if they're elected. But the candidates make lots of conflicting promises, so this kind of protection is only good for a few months before and after the election.

But one interesting strategy is that some female vendors have extended affairs with police officers as protection against police raids. These women often do not conceal the affairs from other vendors, who then use this knowledge to blackmail the officers, many of whom are married.

I realize this seems to contradict my earlier post. Perhaps organizing does have its advantages, even if individual Filipinos are quite fatalistic.

[Tally Wacker]

Every now and then, something happens which gives us a real laugh.

During my last trip, I had organised a 3 day photo shoot while I was in Cebu.

GAll that and no photos G? Oh my!

[FreebieFan]

One young lady with whom I have been holding discourse, usually with clothes on but ocassionally without, has demonstrated to me why Filipinas are tending towards chubbiness in great numbers.

Over the course of a week, during which was have chatted frequently daytime and night time on skype she has gone exactly nowhere. She has remained in her room, has eaten meals in her room, has chatted and thats about it. She asked me why I'm always drinking water. I ask her how much she drinks. She says maybe one glass per day.

Ask her what excercise she does, she says none. Then she says wait, I shower I brush my teeth. I think she was being serious. !

Ask her if she doesn't want fresh air she says no.

Ask her if she won't benefit from excercise she says no.

Ask her if she knows of the curative benefits of drinking water, she says no.

It would be sad if it wasnt true. The girl is 18 and now 50kgs. Heading to 60 soon I'm sure.

[Sxxxx]

What exactly are you doing with the Zithromax? Are you doing it with medical advice? .Yeh, Google says : "The USA Food and Drug Administration has issued a warning stating that the commonly prescribed antibiotic azithromycin (Zithromax or Zmax) can cause irregular heart activity and result in a fatal heart rhythm". Especially when combined with heavy intake of alcohol, I would think.

[Wicked Roger]

One young lady with whom I have been holding discourse, usually with clothes on but ocassionally without, has demonstrated to me why Filipinas are tending towards chubbiness in great numbers.

It would be sad if it wasnt true. The girl is 18 and now 50kgs. Heading to 60 soon I'm sure.We are the same as well but maybe not as extreme as the lady you were chatting with. In Saudi pretty young pinays turn to wobbly jelly for the same reason due mainly to shit work so they sleep during the 4 hour break then end up going home at 10pm and eating rice and more rice with KFC or Mcdo.

One DIA lady (nurse) I was chatting with was 41kgs and looked cute. I remarked she was slim and cute to which she replied she was now 65kg! I was polite asked her how etc and she said rice and KFC / fast food each night as she liked it. There is also Jollibee in most major cities in Saudi also so that is another source of protein.

Needless to say FF I did not continue but I do have Arab mates who love that size so I would despair as the girl you were speaking to will find a man who wants to shag her LOL.

[Red Kilt]

One young lady with whom I have been holding discourse, usually with clothes on but ocassionally without, has demonstrated to me why Filipinas are tending towards chubbiness in great numbers.

Over the course of a week, during which was have chatted frequently daytime and night time on skype she has gone exactly nowhere. She has remained in her room, has eaten meals in her room, has chatted and thats about it.

. SNIP. .I can share similar stories FF although yours seems very sad and extreme. At least the girls I know would love to get outside if they (a) had any money and (b) someone would invite them on a date. Most of their sedentary activity is spent on mindless stuff too. The advent of cheap tablet hand-held toys has meant that FB is the main application all day along with the mindless games like "Candy Crush" et al that are promulgated on the site.

I walked past 6 people in my friendly coffee shop this morning on the way back to my table and five of them were on FB and one was playing Candy Crush. I realize that the same scene is probably being repeated all over the "civilized" world and not just in Manila.

[Wicked Roger]

I walked past 6 people in my friendly coffee shop this morning on the way back to my table and five of them were on FB and one was playing Candy Crush. I realize that the same scene is probably being repeated all over the "civilized" world and not just in Manila.I agree RK.

At Singapore airport recently en route to the Philippines the 14 free internet seats were occupied all by pinays ALL on FB and many playing that game. Same for Bos Coffee in Cebu. Go there after dinner and the pinays there all on FB.

At my work one guy admitted he had over 3000 friends on FB. Imagine the time he would spend reading the daily diatribes from many including the pictures of food with the words "yummy". And then said he only saw 4-6 of them each month and many were not really friends and had never seen them or spoken with them. And of course there is the US college football player who announced his 'girlfriends' death and because he was a star college player the TV news picked it up etc only to find out it was a guy who was a 'big fan'. Turns out for the years he had been 'dating' her he had never once met her?

Is there life after FB? LOL

[Member #4387]

What exactly are you doing with the Zithromax? Are you doing it with medical advice?

Seems from your use of the word "precaution" that you are popping this heavy duty drug hoping that you will be protected when you inevitably encounter a woman with an unexpected "germ" of unknown origin but I would be pleased to be corrected if I have a wrong impression.

As a person with a higher degree in Science, I fear that you are not doing your relatively young immune system any favors as well as wasting your time, but that's just MHO after having discussed the pros and cons of Zithromax quite recently with my friendly urino-genital specialist.First of all I will say I don't recommend this to no one ok. My reason for posting this was that I mean to have read some question about where you can buy it and if it is available for sale without prescription in phils. In my good hearts meaning I just did it bcs I buy it for myself and for some friends of mine back home.

One of my close friends back home is a doctor and I don't do anything with medication without consulting him first in a friendly matter (not a patient. Doctor kind of environment). And try to remember by reading this that friends can give a bit other advice amongst eachothers than they usualy do to pasients ok? He is by far no urino. Genital specialist but more a doctor dealing with general matters and pass patients on to specialists (but he passed his medical exam so some general knowledge I believe he have). The reason I don't consult him instead is bcs he lives and work far away from my place so he just says by a stock of pills wherever you are and they are available so you can have for a rainy day. If you feel somewhat uncomfortable down there just try one and see what happens as according to him clamydhia or gonorrhea bacteria are easily killed. Just a little cute story from not so many years ago when he himself got himself the clap. Then he just blended a pill (I have no idea what kind or brand) into his GF`s food. He knew she was about to go on her annual female checkup as they have in my country. He never heard anything so maby it worked or she did not get infected.

I for sure don't take to many pills but as my group of friends, lets call them not to faithful to their wifes or GF`s, but by far don't travel so much as I do it comes in handy for them to have a supply they can get something from. No No I have taken a few on occations as I felt something was boiling down there.

Never experienced any hazzles or change in heartrythm though but as Red Kilt mentioned that can be due to my relatively young years (I have no idea what is the usual age inside here though). But please don't take it as advice I just tried to answer sth I could not find and I tried seemingly hard to search the Phil forum so I thought maby I would just share, as many people do inside here, from my findings ok? And don't rant my doc friend ok he is just a friend with a relatively same aged mind as mine beeing a player himself. He is most serious with patients.

[FreebieFan]

.

Is there life after FB? LOLAt some point everyone is going to "get" how lame boring and tedious FB really is.

10, 000 friends who you don't know, endless selfies and pics of food. It couldn't be more boring if it tried.

Of course the ability to look at a previous bonk and then start hitting on her friends is a godsend for the mongering generation.

Similarly wechat works well for equal reasons hence its phenomenal growth. Skout is a new one growing up fast for same reasons.

[Gangles]

In my opinion, the most important issue with Facebook is security.

When Zuckerburg went to float FB on the NTSE, there was a big problem, because he was required by law to issue a prospectus. And in the prospectus he was required to say how the business made its money.

But he could not tell the truth, which is that FB sells information about its users.

The situation is worse now, because FB has introduced face recognition technology.

This means that when you include your photo in your profile, FB scans your face, and then compares it with every other face in its database. And also in other databases like Google etc.

This builds up a pretty big dossier on every user.

This information is sold, mostly to marketing companies.

To me, this is a major invasion of my privacy, and I am very wary of having my personality linked to a number of possibly undesirable people or situations.

And of course, now we know that all of your info is passed to the security people in Obama's government.

G


At some point everyone is going to "get" how lame boring and tedious FB really is.

10, 000 friends who you don't know, endless selfies and pics of food. It couldn't be more boring if it tried.

Of course the ability to look at a previous bonk and then start hitting on her friends is a godsend for the mongering generation.

Similarly wechat works well for equal reasons hence its phenomenal growth. Skout is a new one growing up fast for same reasons.

[AfAsia]

http://www.naturalnews.com/040659_internet_surveillance_police_state_Facebook.html

[Asian Rain]

At some point everyone is going to "get" how lame boring and tedious FB really is.

10, 000 friends who you don't know, endless selfies and pics of food. It couldn't be more boring if it tried.

Of course the ability to look at a previous bonk and then start hitting on her friends is a godsend for the mongering generation. And that's the silver lining of f'book. My twist on this is to have a pimpette show me a girl before hooking up. Not only good for weeding out talent that does not meet my preferences, but interesting to see the girls in their daily element. Of course as I keep adding girls, the network is expanding in interesting ways, especially when the girls hit me up wanting to introduce me to their other friends."Yeah, sure. What's your fwend's f'book baby?" Hehe. You can from my posts in the Photo Gallery where things go from there. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain

[Cunning Stunt]

And that's the silver lining of f'book.My sentiments entirely. Facebook is an essential tool in my armory. I have 250+ friends (all female and aged between 18-30, odd that!) in my Philippines spoof account and I was doing a 'I banged her and her, and her' headcount the other day and lost interest when I passed 50. Some pro's and semi's yes, but mostly ordinary lasses from DIA and many referred to me by past shagee's.

I may be perverse, but it also turns me on somewhat to see photo's of them in their everyday clothes, going about their mundane lives posing with workmates or attending grannies 90th birthday bash knowing that just a few days before I was beating a rhythm on her womb with my 'tally whacker'.

[Gangles]

I assume that when you use the term Philippines spoof account, that you have an account with a fake name, and maybe fake photos. In my opinion, this is the best way to use FB. So that you are untraceable.

G


My sentiments entirely. Facebook is an essential tool in my armory. I have 250+ friends (all female and aged between 18-30, odd that!) in my Philippines spoof account and I was doing a 'I banged her and her, and her' headcount the other day and lost interest when I passed 50. Some pro's and semi's yes, but mostly ordinary lasses from DIA and many referred to me by past shagee's.

I may be perverse, but it also turns me on somewhat to see photo's of them in their everyday clothes, going about their mundane lives posing with workmates or attending grannies 90th birthday bash knowing that just a few days before I was beating a rhythm on her womb with my 'tally whacker'.

[Econo Tech]

I assume that when you use the term Philippines spoof account, that you have an account with a fake name, and maybe fake photos. In my opinion, this is the best way to use FB. So that you are untraceable.

GNot exactly. Google Image Search can do wonders, in picking your pictures, if you do post pictures and post them eslewhere as well, for a start.

[FreebieFan]

For todays moment of humour, take a look at this.

I wonder how many mongers all over the world have felt the girl they were meeting was not quite as described.

http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4967115/Caller-phoned-999-to-tell-police-his-prostitute-was-ugly.html

[X Man]

Can we be friends?


My sentiments entirely. Facebook is an essential tool in my armory. I have 250+ friends (all female and aged between 18-30, odd that!) in my Philippines spoof account and I was doing a 'I banged her and her, and her' headcount the other day and lost interest when I passed 50. Some pro's and semi's yes, but mostly ordinary lasses from DIA and many referred to me by past shagee's.

I may be perverse, but it also turns me on somewhat to see photo's of them in their everyday clothes, going about their mundane lives posing with workmates or attending grannies 90th birthday bash knowing that just a few days before I was beating a rhythm on her womb with my 'tally whacker'.

[Wicked Roger]

Saw this article when researching about the weather in the next few weeks.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2013/06/14/palace-assures-enough-weather-forecasters-despite-exodus-287396

While not particularly riveting what the spokeswomen said roughly half way made me smile namely.

But she said the "general rule is: people move to other countries to find greener pastures and provide better lives to their families."

Maybe that is why there are so many pinoys overseas working or looking for work (the Middle East is so crowded with pinoys looking and employers know this and take advantage sadly). Perhaps she may rethink what she says next time?

[BrainDrain]

I'm on my second account. The first account FB shut me out with a message that the I'd was fake. I think they have an algorithm based around randomness. I had sent a few too many friend requests to friends of her friends. I guess I clocked up too many of the "Do you know Braindrain outside of Facebook?" responses.

With the new account I'm letting it grow organically as the pinay friends look to spread their own prospecting network. Nothing better than an overseas punter that makes good.

And yes, looking through the pictures is rewarding.

BD

[Bob Bowie]

I'm on my second account. The first account FB shut me out with a message that the I'd was fake. I think they have an algorithm based around randomness. I had sent a few too many friend requests to friends of her friends. I guess I clocked up too many of the "Do you know Braindrain outside of Facebook?" responses.

With the new account I'm letting it grow organically as the pinay friends look to spread their own prospecting network. Nothing better than an overseas punter that makes good.

And yes, looking through the pictures is rewarding.

BDI have 3 Facebook account. One for family. One for girls I have dated in the past. For the last one I picked a city I have never been and just sent out a lot of friend requests to single, cute girls and then started to add their friends. After a week or or so, I stopped when I reached 250 friends.

So far I have not hooked up with anyone that I have met via Facebook. I use CB and FC to meet NEW girls.

[Pip Jaeger]

In addition to the many good uses already cited for using FB I've found one other. It can be a resource to see if the girl already has a bf. Either a local guy who may decide to come after you and / or try to pull a scam; or a foreigner that she's "in lub with" and is supporting her. Not that her having a foreign bf is a big deal to me, but a local bf could be a problem.

Last year I remember looking at one girls photo album wherein she had several pics with her heavily tatted up bf. In several of the pics they were touting a pistol (looked like an old. 38 cal revolver) as well as flashing gang signs. Took a pass on that girl. I know one could argue that a lot of the girls there have local bf's who could potentially pose a threat, but when it's that "in your face" why take a chance? As for the rest of them, well, as the saying goes: "ignorance is bliss".

A few weeks ago a hottie I met in Cebu was trying to hit me up for some "help". I happened to check her FB page; low and behold she had recently posted some pics of her and her new bf. Some of the pics were the usual ones with floating hearts and other BS they like to add, but one thing I noticed was that the guy was always well dressed, was wearing a lot of gold and one photo showed them together next to his new car. I replied that she should ask her bf to give her "help". No reply from her, LOL.

[Econo Tech]

This is Philippines Legal system.

http://m.inquirer.net/newsinfo/?id=427037

The victim's wife Samirah did not let crime scene investigators into her house and executed a waiver saying she no longer wish to have the case probed by the police, he added.

In other words, the victim's own wife may have set the murder in motion and stopped any legal proceedings.

Welcome to the Philippines.

[X Man]

I've said this before, but it just gets ignored and ignored. If you see a girl scamming and tricking, don't tell her that you see here game. You may feel good about it, but she just ups her game and the next guy isn't going to be quite as savvy as the Pip.

Calling her out isn't going to make her feel guilty. She's already trying to fool someone. Just ignore them, or better yet, share her name and profile her or any of the web sights that profile the scammers. X.

QUOTE=Pip Jaeger; 1434613]In addition to the many good uses already cited for using FB I've found one other. It can be a resource to see if the girl already has a bf. Either a local guy who may decide to come after you and / or try to pull a scam; or a foreigner that she's "in lub with" and is supporting her. Not that her having a foreign bf is a big deal to me, but a local bf could be a problem.

Last year I remember looking at one girls photo album wherein she had several pics with her heavily tatted up bf. In several of the pics they were touting a pistol (looked like an old. 38 cal revolver) as well as flashing gang signs. Took a pass on that girl. I know one could argue that a lot of the girls there have local bf's who could potentially pose a threat, but when it's that "in your face" why take a chance? As for the rest of them, well, as the saying goes: "ignorance is bliss".

A few weeks ago a hottie I met in Cebu was trying to hit me up for some "help". I happened to check her FB page; low and behold she had recently posted some pics of her and her new bf. Some of the pics were the usual ones with floating hearts and other BS they like to add, but one thing I noticed was that the guy was always well dressed, was wearing a lot of gold and one photo showed them together next to his new car. I replied that she should ask her bf to give her "help". No reply from her, LOL.[/QUOTE]

[Wicked Roger]

Read this today, seems even bringing someone 10 years older than you to any tourist spot, hotel etc is illegal. Read half way down the article, so what do? Maybe we should look for MILFs in some cases 60 years old LOL.

http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=17267

[Wicked Roger]

See the last FR, this says some things very differently and says he stayed there 4 months etc. Same city different facts to a degree and very different reporting IMHO.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2013/06/15/french-national-nabbed-cyberporn-287624

[Pip Jaeger]

I've said this before, but it just gets ignored and ignored. If you see a girl scamming and tricking, don't tell her that you see here game. You may feel good about it, but she just ups her game and the next guy isn't going to be quite as savvy as the Pip.

Calling her out isn't going to make her feel guilty. She's already trying to fool someone. Just ignore them, or better yet, share her name and profile her or any of the web sights that profile the scammers. X.Good advice and you're right, I should have just ignored her or simply denied her request by telling her that I only help girls when I see them in person and that I never send any girl $$$ via the net. Don't think I want to post her info here (or on any other board) , to many trolls and I'd likely get burned as she still stays in touch with a few other girls I've befriended.

[Pip Jaeger]

Barracuda has revamped their cloud based storage, they're calling it "Copy". You get 15GB of storage for free and for a limited time 5 gigs extra for each referral.

It's simple to use and works basically the same way as "Dropbox". It adds a folder to your PC (default location is "Favorites") called "Copy" and anything you copy / paste into it is uploaded. If used on a cell phone or tablet it automatically uploads user specified files, folders, pics and videos as long as you're logged in.

https://www.copy.com/home/

[Mr Enternational]

Read this today, seems even bringing someone 10 years older than you to any tourist spot, hotel etc is illegal. Read half way down the article, so what do? Maybe we should look for MILFs in some cases 60 years old LOL.

http://www.cdn.ph/news_details.php?id=17267"Under Republic Act 7610 or the law on the special protection of children against abuse, exploitation, and discrimination, it is illegal for 'any person who shall keep or have in his company a minor. 12 years or younger or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and / or other tourist resort or similar place' unless there are family ties or some other legal bond or obligation involved."

It says "any person", but thereafter only says "his" and not hers. So this law is only against men? Also, what if the room is in the girl's name? This way she is not in your company, but you are in hers. This really cuts down your options at hoarhouses one you hit age 30.

[Member #4351]

"or who is 10 years or more his junior in any public or private place, hotel, motel, beer joint, discotheque, cabaret, pension house, sauna or massage parlor, beach and / or other tourist resort or similar place' unless there are family ties or some other legal bond or obligation involved."Shouldn't about 90% of Filipinos 30 years or older be in jail then?

[Pute Nut]

Shouldn't about 90% of Filipinos 30 years or older be in jail then?This law refers only to MINORS (ie under 18) who are under 12 OR 10 years (his) junior.

But you raise a valid point here. There's no money, brownie points or NGO funding coming out of chasing 30 year old pinoys for fucking 15 year olds raw (and running to the next province when their cum loads begin to grow inside the fuckee).

[Member #4351]

This law refers only to MINORS (ie under 18) who are under 12 OR 10 years (his) junior.

But you raise a valid point here. There's no money, brownie points or NGO funding coming out of chasing 30 year old pinoys for fucking 15 year olds raw (and running to the next province when their cum loads begin to grow inside the fuckee).Sorry, I read it as ANYONE RESPECTIVE OF AGE with a ten year difference. That makes me feel better. I was getting paranoid about having to only have MILFS in my room during future trips.

[Econo Tech]

Good advice and you're right, I should have just ignored her or simply denied her request by telling her that I only help girls when I see them in person and that I never send any girl $$$ via the net. Don't think I want to post her info here (or on any other board) , to many trolls and I'd likely get burned as she still stays in touch with a few other girls I've befriended.Actually, the last thing pinays like to see done to them is to be told that they were caught red handed.

Especially the types who are into scamming. Unlike the educated / better exposed.

If it was me, I would just preserve my silence, than try to tell her your ideology etc, as, more often than not, instead of accepting the truth that they are wrong, they will go on offensive, and threats will galore. Like "I will find you and kill you" or "I will get BI to deport you" or "my cousin in police is coming to your hotel" etc. Etc.

Yes, been there, seen that. And while it can really shock you. After a while, you learn not to taunt these low-lifes.

BTW, as I also learnt one too many time, the girls scamming online are coached and handled by guys, and in one case atleast, I strongly felt it was the guy who started the threat parade. Lucky for me, though I was in Manila, I had given all wrong locations. So if he had taken a squad to go and pick me, he would have reached a blank wall. And that he (or she) didn't know my real name would have helped a lot!

I guess it didn't happen though.

[Lonely566]

I have 3 Facebook account. One for family. One for girls I have dated in the past. For the last one I picked a city I have never been and just sent out a lot of friend requests to single, cute girls and then started to add their friends. After a week or or so, I stopped when I reached 250 friends.

So far I have not hooked up with anyone that I have met via Facebook. I use CB and FC to meet NEW girls.That is a new one on me. Are they dating sites?

[Wicked Roger]

This law refers only to MINORS (ie under 18) who are under 12 OR 10 years (his) junior.

But you raise a valid point here. There's no money, brownie points or NGO funding coming out of chasing 30 year old pinoys for fucking 15 year olds raw (and running to the next province when their cum loads begin to grow inside the fuckee).Thanks PN, I was reading it differently. He was 43 and had a 14 yo so that is where the 10 years etc comes in. Like David33 I was thinking any women regardless of age. You learn something new every day.

[Tally Wacker]

I like taking a little film of my rendezvous. Is that illegal?No its not legal. That's why some members suggest using cloud storage sites like this one below and then delete any thing on your computer and or memory cards.

https://www.copy.com/home/

[X Man]

If you search for Philippine dating sites, the site fc will come up at the top, or near the top.

I was surprised to find that Cherry blossom wasn't near the top. They used to be one of the big sites, but I guess they are getting eaten away by the cheaper / free sites.

Another acronym that pops up is dia, dateinasia.


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That is a new one on me. Are they dating sites?

[PussyFeelsGood]

I am 60 yrs old. Is it legal for me to have an 18 yr old in my hotel room? I like taking a little film of my rendezvous. Is that illegal?Yes you can have an 18 year old in your room.

Filming is illegal.

[Sxxxx]

I am 60 yrs old. Is it legal for me to have an 18 yr old in my hotel room? I like taking a little film of my rendezvous. Is that illegal?Regarding film, do your research on this Forum re that. There have been serious trouble, including prison time, for some, when it backfired. Also check on this Forum relatively new strict laws re filming the girls and anyone else. Sounds like you are a newbie. Leave your camera home until you use it all out properly. Your personal safety is more important than film.

Research it, we don't like typing out stuff all over again, time and time again. Hope you understand. End of subject for me.

[FreebieFan]

That is a new one on me. Are they dating sites?Cherry blossom filipina cupid

[Econo Tech]

I am 60 yrs old. Is it legal for me to have an 18 yr old in my hotel room?If you are a Filipino, not legal. If not, you can be charged, as per any way the Philippines Finest interprets the law (or offer you a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Card, in lieu, priced at 50,000 peso onwards in AC.)


I like taking a little film of my rendezvous. Is that illegal?This, is illegal, if found. 100%

[Nvslim]

Sorry, I read it as ANYONE RESPECTIVE OF AGE with a ten year difference. That makes me feel better. I was getting paranoid about having to only have MILFS in my room during future trips.Beware of Older Women.

I ended up with an older woman at a bar last night. She looked pretty good for a 60-year-old. In fact, she wasn't too bad at all, and I found myself thinking she probably had a really hot daughter.

We drank a couple of beers, and she asked if I'd ever had a Sportsman's Double.

"What's that?" I asked.

"A mother and daughter threesome", she said.

As my mind began to embrace the idea and I wondered what her daughter might look like, I said,"No, I haven't."

We drank a bit more, then she said with a wink,"tonight's your lucky night."

We went back to her place. We walked in.

She put on the hall light and shouted upstairs.

"Mom, You still awake?"

[KongKing]

"Mom, You still awake?"Very funny Nyslim. I suggest you also post that one in the Humour Forum on ISG.

KongKing

[WestCoast1]

And its acceptace.

I know, we've covered it many ways. Here's another. I make a reservation at a hotel in the province. I email ahead to make sure the amenities are to my liking, inlcuding free wifi in the room (not the lobby). I arrive, check in, with the counter clerk I re-confirm wifi in the rooms. In the room I discover with my cell phone that there is no existing wifi signal, open, blocked, hotel, or other. I walk the entire floor and get no signal. I head downstairs and discover a signal in the lobby. Walk 15 feet in any direction and its gone. I approach the desk and enquire."Yes sir, no wifi in the rooms. Lobby only." Wait, didn't you tell me 5 minutes ago that there was wifi in the rooms?"No sir." WTF? The secong gal behind the counter shot something to the first in bisaya, so fast and furious that I didn't get any of it. It was angry. Doesn't your website say free wifi in the rooms?"Yes sir, it does." And this email in my hand, from Irma, confirms wifi in the rooms. Who is Irma?"Yes sir. She the manager. She say it." [Gently] So, you folks aren't being honest, are you? The second clerk looked me in they eye and turned it loose: "Sorry po. We say it to all the customer." The first clerk shot the second clerk this look: "Traitor!"

I mentioned another hotel a few blocks up the street. I asked if they could phone and make me a reservation."Yes. Please wait the lobby sir." She tried placing the call, and hung up. A few minutes later she tried again, then hung up. After 10 minutes of this I enquired her progress."Nobody that hotel answer the phone sir." Faster hun if I just run up the block and enquire there. Off I went. Upon arrival at the second hotel I asked if there was a room available with double bed, aircon, free wifi."Yes sir." Can I check the wifi signal in the room before renting?"Yes sir. Please do." So I go in the room and check it, and its up and running. I reserve it.

I walk back to the first hotel."Sir, I try them on the phone again. No answer." Its ok hun, I was just there and made a reservation."But sir, I can make the call again for you." No hun, its done. I'm leaving."But sir wait. I can call again for you." OMG shut up. Just then, guess who walks up: Irma! The clerk explains the situation."Sorry sir. No wifi." The why did you say in this email there is wifi."I did not." Isn't this your name on the bottom?"Other employee maybe answer your email and put my name in it." Liar. Why does your website say free wifi?"I'm not responsible that website sir." Fine, just refund me my money ma'am. Instant consternation among the three ladies. Finally Irma had the girls take the cash from the drawer and hand it over.

More regarding the same kind of thing in the next post.

[Sxxxx]

If you are a Filipino, not legal. If not, you can be charged, as per any way the Philippines Finest interprets the law (or offer you a Get-Out-Of-Jail-Card, in lieu, priced at 50, 000 peso onwards in AC.)

This, is illegal, if found. 100%I think its alll P100,000 and up nowadays. So it might be better if he waits for a while, save up more, then travel to Phils, LOL.

[WestCoast1]

so good here. and bad stuff too.

so i have good experiences with the chicas in the provincial town from below. after a few days i hop the bus and head to the next province. i'm checking into my hotel, i'm the only customer in the lobby. i'm chatting the two counter clerks. they are both relatively young and cute. one is all business, the other is chatty, smily, and an airhead. i ask the confirmation questions at the desk: aircon, king bed + single bed good for 3 people, free wifi in the room. 'yes sir. ' got it. check into the room, check the wifi. it comes / goes every minute or two. walk outside to the pool, strong signal and fast internet speed. back in the room the wifi signal drops off the moment i walk in the door. back the front desk, tell them the problem, ask if i can have a room closer to the router. the all-biz gal tells me there is no room with better wifi, that the only wifi is in the lobby or by the pool, not in the rooms.

wait, didn't you just tell me 5 minutes ago there was wifi in the room? 'yes. ' without missing a beat the airhead, smiling, says: 'but sir its not work that way. in your room wifi sometimes only. ' so, it will start, then stop, a lot? 'yes sir you understanding now! ' airhead appeared to have explained the second coming of christ to me, and was pleased as punch. all-biz did the slow-burn, and glared the smile off airhead's face. just for fun: doesn't your website say free wifi in all rooms? 'well. we take down the website now sir. ' really. why? 'we need to change it. customers complain. also owner say its expensive. ' i see. but i have this email from 2 days ago from analyn stating free wifi in the room. see it? 'yes sir. ' well, who is analyn? 'i am sir (all-biz). ' so if i want to use the internet, i go to the pool? air-head, pleased as punch again: 'yes sir! ' i smiled and walked off. welcome to filipines.

i went to the room, turned on the aircon, and went to the pool to both swim and internet. i appeared to be the only customer at the hotel. after enjoying the pool and internet i head back to the room. too cold, the aircon unit was macho. i turn the unit off completely, and a minute later i hear: crack-crack-crack-crack, about twice / second, non-stop. something outside is striking the aircon unit fairly loudly. back to the front desk to explain the noise. air-head: 'oh. yes sir. nothing wrong with your aircon. its fine. don't worry it. ' no hun, the tapping is noisy and won't stop. can you make it stop? 'oh. no sir. don't worry it. ' hon i want to sleep later tonight, and that noise won't do the trick. 'it is the noise from water falling on it sir. from the aircon unit on second floor. you want to transfer room? ' sure. you have another with nobody using the aircon unit above? 'no sir. all downstairs room will have this noise. ' who is the genious that designed aircon units directly above each other? smile, head back to the room.

a minute later a knock on the door. the manager (she's hot!) and a repair guy. they check the aircon. 'unit works fine sir. ' over the noise of the aircon you can still hear the crack-crack. could you sleep through that, ma'am? 'not sure. ' can i have a room upstairs? 'yes. executive room is open. much more expensive. ' or, you can stop the water from hitting this one? 'yes. maybe tomorrow. ' smile, welcome to phils.

i turn on the shower to warm it up, then step inside. no hot water. no warm water. the water is cold-er than the pool. call the front desk. airhead: 'yes sir. hot water units broken. will be fixed tuesday. ' wait, today is tuesday. 'next tuesday sir. ' smile. welcome to filipines!

few minutes later another knock on the door. the manager and the guy. the guy turns on the hot water spigot in the sink, tests the water with his finger. manager: 'yes sir. no hot water. ' they walk out and close the door. what the hell was that? why did they bother testing for non-existent hot water? a minute later they knock on the door again and i let them in. the manager points to the small bed (one king, one single, room designed for up to 3 people). the room is large, airy, modestly luxurious by pinoy standards (nice large flat-screen tv, closets, wall mirrors, fridge, clean). she points to the small bed. i had tossed a towel on it to dry from the pool. 'please don't disturb this bed. ' what? 'don't put things on this bed sir. ' why not? 'if it appears the bed is not in order tomorrow when we clean the room, we assume you have extra guest. p480 charge for that. ' what? i paid for the room to include up to 3 people. i am the only one here. 'no sir. you pay for one person only. extra people stay here in this room you pay 480 each. ' no ma'am, its on your website, good for 3 people, and i sent an email asking about the room. the 1700 peso that i paid is good for 3 people. 'no sir. it is not. who tell you that? ' here, read this email. analyn explains it in the email. the manager read the email. 'analyn is wrong. extra person p480. ' i expect you to honor analyn's mistake, and talk to analyn about this. 'wait sir. i will come back. and don't disturb this bed. ' she was overly concerned that a towel was laying on that bed. they walked out, and returned two minutes later. 'ok sir. our website is deleted. the email is mistake. but we will honor it. you may disturb the bed. ' hahaha really! i'm the only one here, why would i sleep in the small bed and ignore the king?

its a lovely hotel. the lobby is large, open, with overstuffed chairs and couches to sit on. there are conference rooms. a restaurant with room service (or poolside service). a beautiful pool area with a covered eating area outside, and lounge chairs. there is a free breakfast. why does a hotel this nice (by phils standards) have:

* no website.

* previously a long-standing website filled with inaccuracy.

* no wifi in the rooms they claim to have wifi in.

* no hot water for a week (more?). the good news is: just before i sat down to write this, i washed my hands, and there is now hot water (the next day)

* noise that cannot be stopped (aircon) in every lower-floor room (and an assumption by staff that the noise should be ignored by guests)

* a concern that a bed has a towel on it.

ineptitude. lack of caring. the culture that subjugates itself to not complain. more caring about 'the rules' than the customer. its an explanation as to why hrm students spend weeks folding napkins, rather than learning about customer service.

the saving grace: two of my previous f*ck-mates are coming later today from further out in the province for a naked bed-festival photo-shoot. they love camera play. i've made good dogs bust their leash.

more gripin' coming soon about the manila airport and cebu pacific (my fav airline to pick on).

[FreebieFan]

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So I have good experiences with the chicas in the provincial town from below. After a few days I hop the bus and head to the next province. I'm checking into my hotel, I'm the only customer in the lobby. I'm chatting the two counter clerks. They are both A to honor Analyn's mistake, and talk to Analyn about this. 'Wait sir. I will come back. And don't disturb this bed. ' She was overly concerned that a towel was laying on that bed. They walked out, and returned two minutes later. 'OK sir. Our website is deleted. The email is mistake. But we will honor it. You may disturb the bed. ' Hahaha really! I'm the only one here, why would I sleep in the small bed and ignore the king?

Its a lovely hotel. The lobby is large, open, with overstuffed chairs and couches to sit on. There are conference rooms. A restaurant with room service (or poolside service). A beautiful pool area with a covered eating area outside, and lounge chairs. There is a free breakfast. Why does a hotel this nice (by phils standards) have:

E noise should be ignored by guests)

* ).Fabulously well reported story. Newbies will never figure out why this is funny and frustrating in equal measures. But those of us that have ventured north south east and west will understand that your story is both normal and repeated every day in every province.

There are Filipinos working with large multinational hospiltaity companies (Marriott, Starwood, IHC, Hilton etc) in GM positions which proves that its not specifically a Filipino thing, but a small minded provincial mindset thing that creates these monstrous rule oriented policies.

I didn't cut and paste your most of your report, as wouldn't want to incur the wrath of the sad old grouchy XYZ's who inhabit this board.

[Member #4698]

That's a funny story Westcoast. I can see Netflix turning it into their next in house drama/comedy series. They should call it "Punter in Paradise" and cast Chris Evans to play you. Each episode could take place in another town in the PI and include various humorous run in's between the punter and an assortment of inane colorful locals like 'smiley', 'all-biz' and the 'hot manager' and then each episode would conclude with an 'R-rated' sex scene between the punter and a young provincial lass.

By the way, what's the name of the town and the hotel? It doesn't really matter since it could have happened anywhere in the Philippines, but I'd like to know anyway.

[GoodEnough]

Great post Westcoast, and a concise description of the consumer economy here managed in accordance with mindless rules enforced by mindless people. I had a friend here in Davao was the GEM of a large hotel, and he told me that HRM graduates, having spent 4 years learning to make beds and fold napkins, while learning nothing about hotel management, were useless in any capacity except waiters. Welcome back to the Philippines, where bland indifference to consumers is the rule and resigned acceptance is the response.

GE

[WestCoast1]

By the way, what's the name of the town and the hotel? It doesn't really matter since it could have happened anywhere in the Philippines, but I'd like to know anyway.I'm still at this hotel. Will turn the info loose later when I'm no longer on this island (will post the pics fromthe ridiculously fabulous several nights I spent in the first town.

[WestCoast1]

The Manila airport. For all the upgrades, new terminal, etc, some things remain the same. My int'l flight was due in at 8pm, but was delayed and arrived 9pm. Finally thru customs and walk outside at 9:30 to the taxis, and was overwhelmed at the number of people. The yellow taxi line was humongous, snaking all over the place. Some unofficial touts to Malate for me were all p1300. I get in the shorter fixed-price line (about a dozen parties in front of me). Not a single yellow taxi, nor white fixed-price van pulled thru for 10 solid minutes. At this rate, I'd be in line for 3 hours. It was tempting to get out of line and walk upstairs to the Arrivals, but I would lose my spot. A few yellows pull in, but nothing else. Neither line moves. I'm starting to wilt in the heat after 20 hours of flying.

Finally the yellows start pulling in by the bunchload. The yellow line moves a smidge. A bunch of folk in my line jump ship to the yellow taxi line, leaving just two parties in front of me. Sure as filipine rain, two white vans pull up and grab the next two parties. Another pulls up 2 minutes later. About p450.

30 minutes standing in line. If they can fix the terminals inside, why is it this hard to get a taxi at 9:30pm? Is there no bus service leaving the airport? Fortunately there was little traffic, and I was at the hotel in Malate 20 minutes later.

The hotel taxi would have been 600. I save p150 by waiting in line 30 minutes. Never again. For the life of me, I've been at 4 major airports in the last 2 months, and had no trouble getting a taxi or walk-up shuttle from any other than Manila.

Next gripe is Cebu-Pacific.

[BionicMan]

So good here. And bad stuff too.

The saving grace: two of my previous f*ck-mates are coming later today from further out in the province for a naked bed-festival photo-shoot. They love camera play. I've made good dogs bust their leash.

nice and hilarious. But are you three going to "disturb" the third bed then?

Ahiii. Ahiiii.

[GoodEnough]

i flew today on pal, from davao to manila, in the middle of the day, arriving at the fabled airport about 2 pm. it's a trip i take 2-3 times a month, so you would think there would be no surprises left. the flight was fine, with boarding slightly delayed due to the hundreds of folks crowded around tvs to watch game six of the nba playoffs. these guys ceded nothing in their fervor to americans and were screaming in support. mostly for the spurs.

the fun began once we landed (on time) in manila. according to the pilot, no more gates were available, which is strange since i saw several that were empty. so, we were told, we would be bussed to the terminal. i don't think i've been in an airport that uses buses since i left africa, which started me thinking that i'm not aware of a single major improvement to any public infrastructure, that's been made since i arrived here more than ten years ago, though there are always lots of highly touted "plans" to do something. during the interminable wait between landing, parking, and the arrival of the bus, i remembered yet again that in less time than it took this country to build a new terminal, financed by a german company and then stolen from the builder, thailand built an entire airport, access roads and a high speed rail link. the terminal here still isn't fully operational.

in line with the above, i read that the new airport serving cdo, but located 45 km from the city was opened with great fanfare by the president. it appears however that the ifr avionics haven't been installed and will not be until sometime in 2014, which probably means 2020. therefore the airport can only operate on vfr, which means only during daylight. airport officials assured the public however that they have installed a highly visible wind sock so no worries. i guess if it was good enough for orville and wilber wright, it's good enough for cdo.

all of which is i guess a great indication that this place is firmly secured to its third world status and will continue to get passed by the rest of asean.

[KongKing]

I don't think I've been in an airport that uses buses since I left Africa.

In line with the above, I read that the new airport serving CDO, but located 45 km from the city was opened with great fanfare by the president. It appears however that the IFR avionics haven't been installed and will not be until sometime in 2014, which probably means 2020. Therefore the airport can only operate on VFR, which means only during daylight. Airport officials assured the public however that they have installed a highly visible wind sock so no worries. I guess if it was good enough for Orville and Wilber Wright, it's good enough for CDO.Gee, GE (excuse the alliteration) but I seem to be catching air terminal buses all the time. Maybe it's because I frequently fly the budget airlines. I was on a terminal bus at Cebu airport yesterday, and this last year have been on buses between the terminal and plane at Manila, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Hong Kong, and lengthy tarmac walking at Davao!

Regarding the new new so-called "International" airport at Cagayan de Oro I have just posted a full report in the "Other Areas" section.

Cheers.

KongKing

[BionicMan]

The Manila airport. The hotel taxi would have been 600. I save p150 by waiting in line 30 minutes. Never again. For the life of me, I've been at 4 major airports in the last 2 months, and had no trouble getting a taxi or walk-up shuttle from any other than Manila.Next gripe is Cebu-Pacific.Luckily all my trips to FE are on company expenses (apart the leisure mongering in BKK that I can't bill to the company, LOL, but sometime hotel is!) so I often decide for hotel car pick up. More expensive for sure. But hassle free. No need to change money, no need to discuss prices, getting ripped off, no need to distinguish the taxi mafia members from those not use the meter (any difference? No! Ahahha) , no cueing up.

I know. Can't be for all. But soemtime I can stay in a country without even bothering to change a single dime.

[WestCoast1]

the right hand not knowing what the left hand does. well cebu-pacific might be two different effed-up companies.

i am departing manila for the province on an early-afternoon cp flight. the flight is scheduled for 12:20pm. thinking its good to arrive an hour early, that would be 11:20am. but, its the manila airport, and manila traffic, maybe 90 minutes is better; 10:50am arrival. i purposely kicked out the previous evening's hussy the night before for a good night's sleep. i rise before 6am and go for my morning constitutional walk thru koreatown in malate. back at the hotel, shower and take in the hotel's nice breakfast buffet. back to the room and pack. 8am. do some trabaho. 9pm. bored, i check out and head to the airport. traffic is unusually heavy. originally the driver asked for 350 pesos, i insisted on the meter. sitting locked in traffic (i could have been counting my blessings, but i wasn't) , i half-jokingly told him that i'd give him the 350 if he got me to the airport by 9:30.

like a man possessed with an electric dick (similar to me) , the driver woke right up and yanked the wheel hard right and cut off everyone to get to the shoulder of the road, and took the on-ramp to a freeway (skyway?). unusually light traffic there, we zipped right along (why hadn't previous drivers done this?). there was a p20 toll. damn, the driver skirted the airport vehicle security by simply pulling around other waiting taxis. there we were, sitting in front of the domestic departure terminal by 9:30.

wait in the long line outside with my luggage, get thru the xray screening by 9:45. accidentally drop my passport; a security guy grabs it and flags me down to return it. nice guy, i chatted him up for 5 minutes. its now 9:50, and i'm contemplating hitting the head to take a leak. now? or check in first and hit the head at the gate? i'll check in now. get in line as directed by cp personnel, to check in. its 9:50am. and i got to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). its 2. 5 hours prior to flight time. its 2 hours prior to boarding. to repeat: its 9:50am, and i got to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). urination desire level: modest. in line in front of me are about 8 parties (couples, family, or individuals) waiting to check in.

10am, and nobody in my line has moved. the clerk is checking in the same older pinoy couple as when i arrived. i've been watching the other lines, and they either aren't moving, or are taking 10 minutes to check in one person. tempting to change lines. others are now behind me in my lines, and all of the lines are getting longer. jesus de christo i got to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). urination desire level: modest-strong. tempting to go [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134), but that puts me back in a longer line later. dammit. 10:08, and the older couple in the front of the line finally walk off, and we all move up one. i'm getting steaming mad, watching all those lines of people not move. i grab my cell phone and start timing the clerks checking people in. next in line behind the old folks was a young foreigner, carrying only his packpack. thirteen minutes to check him in. f*ck next was a family of four! urination desire level: not good.

by 11am, there were only 3 parties in front of me. a while later i'm next in line. just then they let some other guy cut the line and get in front of me. ok, he's really old, lets be civil. just then, some cp kid walks around with a sign, saying this was a final call for my flight. a bunch of us hold up itineraries. he collects them and disappears. shit. watching the clerks check in the customers is like watching corn grow. nothing (nothing) could be more cumbersome and slow. the clerks must be extremely vacuous to think this process is not extremely inefficient.

its noon now. urination desire level: i'm doing the potty dance, shifting my weight from one foot to the other. the old man is finished with the clerk and led away. its my turn! yes, its an easy check-in. paperwork in order, one bag to check, one to carry-on. on the outside i'm saying 'yes ma'am. no ma'am. ' on the inside i'm boiling mad at the process. it takes precisely 10 minutes to check me in at the counter. at 12:10 as i finish checking in, the plane's been boarding for 20 minutes, and leaves in 10 minutes. i step to the side and ask to see a manager. 'why sir? ' i look back at the throng, many of which are about to miss their plane, and tell the kid i've been waiting for over 2 hours in line. 'manager in cr sir. ' later kid. move as fast as possible thru security screening, put shoes on, make it to the gate to find the flight delayed. i ask the reason for the delay: 'sir we still have passenger checking in. ' of course!

just as i'm looking around for the pisser to drop my yellow load, the cp lady says to me: 'boarding starts now sir. fall in line here. ' omg. i'm first in line. nice. but i got to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) dammit. so i fall in line. insult to my injury, we have to be bussed like cattle to the aircraft. even after the bus is full, and the doors closed, the bus sits still for 4 more minutes. finally reach the plane, board, toss my carry-on in the overhead bin, and beeline to the head.

90 people have a flight delayed because: the airline's check-in system is extremely inefficient. of course! now i know how to break those terrorists at gitmo. put them on any cp flight out of manila. welcome to pinas!

[GoodEnough]

Speaking of urination, I almost wet myself laughing at Westcoast's recapitulation of his Cebu Pathetic flight. He's highlighted some of the many reasons (including a recurrent inability to find the runway on landing) that I avoid the airline like the plague, and take it only when forced by circumstance. Fortunately, that's not often. After the debacle at Davao airport, where the pilots left the plane before any of the passengers, and evidently one pilot was either drunk or high, I was ardently hoping that the poor excuse for an airline would be grounded. But of course it's owned by one of the richest guys in the country and so, after a few days of outraged headlines, the entire incident has evidently been forgotten.

One thing WC didn't mention is that all of the Cebu Pathetic gate agents look like they're about 14 years old, and have about the same level of gravitas and expertise as your average adolescent. Now, just imagine, given the company's ineptitude and indifference toward any form of acceptable service, how meticulous the maintenance must be.

GE

[GoodEnough]

Gee, GE (excuse the alliteration) but I seem to be catching air terminal buses all the time. Maybe it's because I frequently fly the budget airlines. I was on a terminal bus at Cebu airport yesterday, and this last year have been on buses between the terminal and plane at Manila, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur, and Hong Kong, and lengthy tarmac walking at Davao!

Cheers.

KongKingHi KK. I've spent a fair amount of time in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong and don't recall ever taking a bus or being asked to take a hike on the tarmac. But then again, I'm old and my memory sometimes isn't as accurate as it once was, or at least as accurate as I think it once was. I read your review of the new CDO airport, and partly based on that have declined an invitation to visit CDO next week. The thought of an hour's ride over bad road to CDO and then back to the airport, doesn't appeal to me, and the fact that there's no capacity for instrument flying actually frightens me. So, I'll give it a miss.

GE

[Econo Tech]

Speaking of urination, I almost wet myself laughing at Westcoast's recapitulation of his Cebu Pathetic flight. He's highlighted some of the many reasons (including a recurrent inability to find the runway on landing) that I avoid the airline like the plague, and take it only when forced by circumstance. Fortunately, that's not often. After the debacle at Davao airport, where the pilots left the plane before any of the passengers, and evidently one pilot was either drunk or high, I was ardently hoping that the poor excuse for an airline would be grounded. But of course it's owned by one of the richest guys in the country and so, after a few days of outraged headlines, the entire incident has evidently been forgotten.I may beg to disagree, on the pilots not using slides etc, as, most of the times slides cause more injury than normal disambarkation, if the pilots deem the latter to be safer.

Grounding it will only make struggling Philippines Airlines powerful and raise prices, and for the other LCCs as competition, don't fret much. Others are not going to boost capacity as much as PR will benefit.


One thing WC didn't mention is that all of the Cebu Pathetic gate agents look like they're about 14 years old, and have about the same level of gravitas and expertise as your average adolescent. Now, just imagine, given the company's ineptitude and indifference toward any form of acceptable service, how meticulous the maintenance must be.

GEThe Cebu Pac's staff can sing and dance, and that, plus the keen interest to dress up in fancy dress qualifies them for a job I guess!

I would disagree on the Maintenance component again, being involved a bit in the Air Industry. Yes, the Senators and all are sudden aviation experts.

If 5Js engineers were so screwed up, why are they in such demand when they move to greener pastures?

For inefficieny and all, yes, I agree 5J is at the extreme low end.

For safety, no sir, I don't agree on that score.

BTW, hope you didn't know this. The Airbus A319 and A320 of Cebu Pac is maintained by a JV of SIA Engineering Ltd and Cebu Pacific.

[FreebieFan]

One thing WC didn't mention is that all of the Cebu Pathetic gate agents look like they're about 14 years old, and have about the same level of gravitas and expertise as your average adolescent. Now, just imagine, given the company's ineptitude and indifference toward any form of acceptable service, how meticulous the maintenance must be.

GEI'm totally with you there. They once did the "sir we need to check your bag " routine at the gate. I advised it had been checked and weighed three times and approved as a hand carry item." But sir you don't have the sticker on it " " No young man I don't." " But you must have " " no young man I don't have to have, its here in my pocket ready so you can see it " " But it must be on all bags my supervisor says so ". Ok young man, go find the said supervisor and tell him I the passenger am opting to keep it in my pocket " Sir hes not here, so what will I do now".

The airline run by kids. Makes a good new and appropriate slogan

[Pip Jaeger]

I ask the reason for the delay: 'Sir we still have passenger checking in. ' Of course!Very funny recant of events; both the hotel incidents too, was ROFLMFAO; looking forward to more and of course to your pics too. Be sure to add the "P P" dance scene (complete with thought bubbles) in the sitcom suggested by Natty (great idea BTW).

[Wicked Roger]

Good comments GE and WC.

I use CP all the time as I tried PAL before and was so disappointed, and as GE knows I have a limited patience / queue level. Although it improves when in the Philippines and when am thinking of what is waiting for me at my arrival LOL.

My view of CP is far less negative than you as I rarely face the issues, but I agree the staff need better training but would this help? The way GE describes his discussion is the way I have found, no logical thinking or forward thinking (that is so annoying I agree)

I always check in online WC takes 2 mins, I cut an paste the boarding pass onto a MS Word doc if no printer around and ask the hotel to print when I leave. Or if I forget I tell the web check counter I forget an they forgive me

So I use the web check in as faster as I have been in the same position as WC in a non moving queue etc, in my case the flight was going to board and I was stuck until someone shouted out to go to the front and check in. Hence I now always web check in and it has saved me a heap of queues.

As for the service, this does vary but am OK as I take short flights (and cheap ones) and I think of what is waiting for me so I keep calm. One time I was annoyed was in HK when a departing passenger needed a wheelchair (no big deal you think) and CP staff brought the wrong wheelchair. That is it was too wide for the aisle (even thought they knew the type of aircraft). This caused a 90 min departure delay late at night. That was sheer stupidity and I sort of said that to the ground crew in my usual polite manner.

But the crew are usually cute an that makes up for the tight seats (in my case) and boredom on the plane itself.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi KK. I've spent a fair amount of time in Singapore, Malaysia and Hong Kong and don't recall ever taking a bus or being asked to take a hike on the tarmac. But then again, I'm old and my memory sometimes isn't as accurate as it once was, or at least as accurate as I think it once was. I read your review of the new CDO airport, and partly based on that have declined an invitation to visit CDO next week. The thought of an hour's ride over bad road to CDO and then back to the airport, doesn't appeal to me, and the fact that there's no capacity for instrument flying actually frightens me. So, I'll give it a miss.

GEI am used to the bus system in the Middle East especially in Saudi Arabia where small provincial airports have an air bridge and some larger 'international' ones do not!

In the Philippines CP varies and there was a time when arriving at Manila and Cebu it was only bus which is very annoying, something to do with maintenance. So am OK with buses as am used to them but I always prefer the air bridge.

As for CDO, KK nice FR. The Dammam airport in Saudi was relocated much like CDO but 85kms away and now many use the causeway to Bahrain to fly overseas as tickets much cheaper (as Dammam ahs hugely inflated landing fees). Bused there by the airlines themselves.

[GreenToad]

What are the best mongering places in the Philippines besides Manila and Angeles City?

Thanks!

[Sam 14]

I had been picking on a pretty little 40 kilogram one and I told her that if she was my gf, I would buy her 30 skirts, all the same size. So she would have clothes for a long time. And if she ever outgrew them, I would dump her. No matter how much I insisted she was the perfect size, she insisted that she must get chubby and was doing everything she could to reach her goal. I've heard that repeatedly.


One young lady with whom I have been holding discourse, usually with clothes on but ocassionally without, has demonstrated to me why Filipinas are tending towards chubbiness in great numbers.

Over the course of a week, during which was have chatted frequently daytime and night time on skype she has gone exactly nowhere. She has remained in her room, has eaten meals in her room, has chatted and thats about it. She asked me why I'm always drinking water. I ask her how much she drinks. She says maybe one glass per day.

Ask her what excercise she does, she says none. Then she says wait, I shower I brush my teeth. I think she was being serious. !

Ask her if she doesn't want fresh air she says no.

Ask her if she won't benefit from excercise she says no.

Ask her if she knows of the curative benefits of drinking water, she says no.

It would be sad if it wasnt true. The girl is 18 and now 50kgs. Heading to 60 soon I'm sure.

[Wicked Roger]

What are the best mongering places in the Philippines besides Manila and Angeles City?

Thanks!Try Tawi Tawi, Contabato, Zambo. All nice beach areas also.

[Pip Jaeger]

What are the best mongering places in the Philippines besides Manila and Angeles City?

Thanks!More appropriately would be to ask where they not are, LOL. But to answer your question, the absolute best place is actually just a little north of beautiful downtown Davao City, it's official name is: "CIW Mindanao, Panabo, Davao". There's thousands of women there who are desperately waiting just for you!

[Exoticspirit]

Probably cultural. Same as most Latin American and Indian women who don't exercise either. Then again, look at North America where 40% are considered obese.

[WestCoast1]

What are the best mongering places in the Philippines besides Manila and Angeles City?

Thanks!You could RTTF!

One post? Really?

[WestCoast1]

I always check in online WC takes 2 mins, I cut an paste the boarding pass onto a MS Word doc if no printer around and ask the hotel to print when I leave. Or if I forget I tell the web check counter I forget an they forgive meTried that today. Got my boarding pass online, and had no printer at the hotel I mentioned before. So I emailed it to the front office asking them to print it. Went there 2 hours later to see if it was printed."Oh, no sir. We don't have a printer at all for that. Sorry sir."

Just when you thought service couldn't get worse.

[Mbsl65]

It is sad that someone actually took their time to create an hate website.


Http://philippinefailblog.com/

[Dashing Don]

Its been with great joy that I've been reading the 'creaky state of Philippine infrastructure' reports from posters whose own personal creaky infrastructure mirrors that of the Phils. It tells me that I have many more years of happy times ahead of me in the PI.

Humor me: If the infrastructure etc was good, like Thailand, then there would be ten times as many male visitors. Gabiche? That wouldn't be good. Pink Pearl types would be everywhere. Do I have to spell out the many reasons that would not be good?

Maybe its time to state what makes the PI better than any other country for the single male visitor: the accessibility of regular English speaking girls. Not prostitutes, like everywhere else. Although you can have that too, and its a great backup in a pinch. I've also thought that the presence of hookers in the PI keeps the regular girls 'honest' ie they know they don't have a monopoly on their commodity. However, for many of us, the real draw is this accessibility to normal girls. It seems obvious to me that there is a direct correlation between this supply and the infrastructure, services etc in the PI.

So keep those stories coming about out-of-control jeepnies; decaying sidewalks; Soviet era customer service; raw sewage; inedible food; floods; corrupt public officials; ripoffs, scams and scoundrels; and my personal favorite: the sense of outrage with which these posts are delivered.

Viva la Republica!

Don

[Wicked Roger]

Tried that today. Got my boarding pass online, and had no printer at the hotel I mentioned before. So I emailed it to the front office asking them to print it. Went there 2 hours later to see if it was printed."Oh, no sir. We don't have a printer at all for that. Sorry sir."

Just when you thought service couldn't get worse.LOL. Sorry am not laughing at your predicament just that excuse which I have heard before and then ask "OK fine if no printer you can't print my bill so best I don't pay as without a printed copy I can't pay"

I go to the airport and charm my way saying that hotel could not print. Most of the time the staff look into my deep blue eyes an melt using words such as gwapo and handsum and do anything I want even over the counter LOL Well enough of the fantasy FR as we get lots of those here.

Seriously I say exactly what you said regarding the hotel printer failing and the counter staff are cool. Will save lots time and now I always check in online.

[Pip Jaeger]

It is sad that someone actually took their time to create an hate website.Tactful comedic satire, like what WC has written lately is one thing, but I agree that this site is bit over the top. What's sadder is that it's hosted by a Filipino, perhaps his being raised in the US has tainted his view beyond help. Me thinks that if were hosted by a foreigner living in the PI's then it would have been take down by now or at least received a lot more criticism and scrutiny from the Dept of Tourism. In any event, I'd be careful about posting there; after all blood is thicker then water.

http://philippinefailblog.com/about-me/

More about the host:

http://philippinefailblog.com/top-10-most-stupid-things-about-philippines/

[Sxxxx]

So keep those stories coming about out-of-control jeepnies; decaying sidewalks; Soviet era customer service; raw sewage; inedible food; floods; corrupt public officials; ripoffs, scams and scoundrels.Viva la Republica! DonI agree wholeheartedly, more for the rest of us. Do not forget, new laws in Phils forbidding this that, foreigners being shot, conned. Don't risk it, stick with Thailand.

[GoodEnough]

Tactful comedic satire, like what WC has written lately is one thing, but I agree that this site is bit over the top.Thanks to those who posted the link. I visited the site and read a few of the vituperative rants. While all of us who live here have witnessed countless examples similar to those he describes, my reaction was simply to wonder why he chooses to remain here. As have, I imagine, most of the long-term residents here, I've met more than my share of expats who retain a permanent sense of outrage at various facets of the culture. I'm still mystified why any rational person would choose to live in a quasi-permanent state of anger that spills into self righteous moral indignation. Sure, there are things that still bother me, and there are increasingly rare times that I lose it, but most of the time I've learned just to accept that which is and cannot be changed. It's the only basis, in my opinion, on which one can enjoy his life here. I once read that hanging onto anger "is like taking poison and expecting someone else to die."

GE

[Red Kilt]

Thanks to those who posted the link. I visited the site and read a few of the vituperative rants. While all of us who live here have witnessed countless examples similar to those he describes, my reaction was simply to wonder why he chooses to remain here. .He actually explains why in his blog. He says he rushed into migrating here without "trialling" it first, but now he is making good money from his business and he enjoys the lifestyle living on his foreign salary, and he also gets a sense of "fun" from seeing just how dysfunctional are many of the things about which he comments and, more tellingly, how they persist.

I don't detect that he is full of hate.

I think he is having fun commenting on many of the inanities of everyday life here and, like most ISG regular posters, cannot believe that not only do the inanities keep happening but they seem to become more embedded in behavior every day.

[Hutsori]

I've met more than my share of expats who retain a permanent sense of outrage at various facets of the culture. I'm still mystified why any rational person would choose to live in a quasi-permanent state of anger that spills into self righteous moral indignation. Sure, there are things that still bother me, and there are increasingly rare times that I lose it, but most of the time I've learned just to accept that which is and cannot be changed. It's the only basis, in my opinion, on which one can enjoy his life here. I once read that hanging onto anger "is like taking poison and expecting someone else to die."+1. I've lived in a few countries that were far more blood-boiling maddening than the Philippines, mostly due to those locals being incompetent and malicious. I know there are some like so here, it's just that I have run across them far less often than elsewhere. To me the merits greatly outweigh the demerits; paradoxically the country's malfunction works for me. I'm having a grand time here.

[Sxxxx]

To me the merits greatly outweigh the demerits; paradoxically the country's malfunction works for me. I'm having a grand time here.It's malfunction is one of the reasons they need us, or should I say, our sponsorship. If they ever got organised, they might not need us mongers anymore. Pray the bedlem continues.

[Lonely566]

Has anyone on this board tried to flim monger sessions with a GoPro? One of those hero cameras? I like to take some film of the girls I'm with because I can't remember anything and enjoy reliving me vacation from time to time. So I was thinking about getting one, just for that purpose. How is the quality?

[WestCoast1]

snip.

So keep those stories coming about out-of-control jeepnies; decaying sidewalks; Soviet era customer service; raw sewage; inedible food; floods; corrupt public officials; ripoffs, scams and scoundrels; and my personal favorite: the sense of outrage with which these posts are delivered.

DonThe soviet erea customer service stories. They belong right here for the newbs to read.


Humor me: If the infrastructure etc was good, like Thailand, then there would be ten times as many male visitors. Gabiche? That wouldn't be good. Pink Pearl types would be everywhere. Do I have to spell out the many reasons that would not be good?Cebu Pathetic story #2. I get an email that my flight out of the province is cancelled due to equipment failure. I've been re-scheduled on the same flight the next day. I tryke to a CP ticketing office in the mall. The girl checks my itinerary."Yes. You are re-booked on flight next day. You have options. You can get a refund if you like and book with other airline. Or take flight at other time. No charge." Sure, refund my money then. I'll book out with one of the other airlines."I cannot. You book this online. I can only refund if you reserve the flight in this office." What?"Sir you must go to the airport and get your refund. Or, you can call the Manila call center and get a refund, but its expensive phone call." What? Why can't you refund from your computer here?"Cannot sir. You go to airport or call call center." So, I can call the call center from outside phils toll-free, but inside phils I pay for the call."Yes sir." And your CP computer is somehow not linked to the call center computers in Manila?"Correct sir." You say 'sir' a lot huh?"Yes sir hahaha." FF you were correct, a dichotomous company with children running it. The left and right hands don't wash well together.

Wait a minute. I've got a girl who bussed in from an even further province to spend two days with me. She's been sucking / fucking my brains out. I cannot keep up with her appetite. You mean I might have to spend an extra day here, with a warm hottie sex bunny, aircon, and a pool? Well I'll find some bandages for my raw dick.

[Member #4698]

Wait a minute. I've got a girl who bussed in from an even further province to spend two days with me. She's been sucking / fucking my brains out. I cannot keep up with her appetite. You mean I might have to spend an extra day here, with a warm hottie sex bunny, aircon, and a pool? Well I'll find some bandages for my raw dick.Further adventures of a Monger in a Monger Land: At least they fixed the AC. Keep on rockin'.

[Econo Tech]

Tactful comedic satire, like what WC has written lately is one thing, but I agree that this site is bit over the top. What's sadder is that it's hosted by a Filipino, perhaps his being raised in the US has tainted his view beyond help. Me thinks that if were hosted by a foreigner living in the PI's then it would have been take down by now or at least received a lot more criticism and scrutiny from the Dept of Tourism. In any event, I'd be careful about posting there; after all blood is thicker then water.Especially Filipino Blood is thicker than water.

Stay safe.

[X Man]

I just want to say, if you actually pray that the Philippins chaos continues, in order to further your Sxxx life, you may have some pretty fkg bad karma coming your way.


It's malfunction is one of the reasons they need us, or should I say, our sponsorship. If they ever got organised, they might not need us mongers anymore. Pray the bedlem continues.

[FreebieFan]

has anyone on this board tried to flim monger sessions with a gopro? one of those hero cameras? i like to take some film of the girls i'm with because i can't remember anything and enjoy reliving me vacation from time to time. so i was thinking about getting one, just for that purpose. how is the quality?well those cameras seem great to attach to your bike helmet when speeding down a volcano but you had best figure which part of your anatomy to attach it to, and how good it is with recording close ups. some vid cams arent so good at up close, whereas a really normal point and shoot handles close ups recording really well. the other solution is to hire a camera girl. and believe it or not, there are many that do such work. theres even a few members here who know such ladies.

[FreebieFan]

T, I've met more than my share of expats who retain a permanent sense of outrage at various facets of the culture. I'm still mystified why any rational person would choose to live in a quasi-permanent state of anger that spills into self righteous moral indignation. Sure, there are things that still bother me, and there are increasingly rare times that I lose it, but most of the time I've learned just to accept that which is and cannot be changed. It's the only basis, in my opinion, on which one can enjoy his life here.

GEActually its not the men who have the anger so much as the trailing spouses. The men know things can get screwed up but we all know that there are, how to say, compensations for being resident in Manila.

The wives however are in a state of endless frustration. Firstly they are never sure how to treat the home help, whether to be firm and stiff, or friendly and fake. They then worry that the home help will allow "sir " to see them in a near naked state when showering etc. As the trailing spouse has of course gone to seed with her white version of the jollibee belly.

They know every time they go to the mall, hubby will pretend to only see the walls and the floor, whereas wife knows that every girl of legal or non legal age is looking at hubby with lust in her slim brown attractive heart.

So then come the dinner parties the wives talk about how much they hate being in country, how bad everything is and seethe with the aforementioned anger. The hubbies do well to shut up, put on the empathetic face at appropriate moments and try not to wink with a smile at the other hubbies (specially if they had a hot afternoon session chez Sogo)

[Red Kilt]

I just want to say, if you actually pray that the Philippins chaos continues, in order to further your Sxxx life, you may have some pretty fkg bad karma coming your way.I agree with you wholeheartedly X.

Sxxx comment was an incredibly heartless and selfish thing to say. To condemn a whole population of people to endless poverty just so he can get his rocks off at bargain basement prices is disgraceful. The sad thing is that there are probably many guys here who will leap to his defence.

[Sxxxx]

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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because it contributed nothing of value and in fact constituted a complete waste of bandwidth.

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex. Let's stick to the subject.

[Econo Tech]

Welcome to PH.

Reliable info states, that, as per PH Law, the Mugindanao massacre suspects are trying to get an Affidavit from some of the Victims' kins, so that the case will be withdrawn and the blame pinned on the other vicitm. The Gov Mangadatu, whose wife and campaign team was massacred.

As per PH law, it is perfectly legal it seems, to do such a thing, and the suspects are heading in that direction, which may be finalised once a compensation plan is agreed to the 58 odd dead people's relatives (excluding the primary victim / candidate Mangadatu of course.)

Welcome to PH Law!

[Hutsori]

So, in retrospect, a response to your liking would have been : 'Go home Hutsy and screw your own women back home, stop exploiting the Phil situation', LOL.

Your response was ridiculously over the top and hysterical. To quote a small bit : 'To condemn a whole population to endless poverty'. Etc. Are you serious? Ridiculous.LOL. To infer a blessing is quite a leap. Just about everyone here, if not everyone, is "exploiting" the situation, e.g. the girls' economic situation; greed; entrepreneurship; exasperation with the local blokes; age; having children; fear of having a Pinoy fubu who may spill the beans to other locals; or fetish for foreigners.

[Dashing Don]

Have to go with Sxxx and Hutsori here.

That Red Kilt, usually more contemplative if verbose, should criticize Sxxx's endorsement of a status quo over which he as no control, as if Sxxx was actively perpetuating the status quo is unusual. Neither Sxxx nor anyone else here runs the PI.

Xman's misspelt nonsense is par for the course for him and doesn't deserve a reasoned response.

Personally, I try to make it good for any girl, or indeed any person I meet in the PI. The only exception are taxi drivers. With the girls, its gifts, cash, and a nice experience. I know it is for me. For the doormen, waiters and average male Filipino, I appreciate their courtesy and generally upbeat attitude. I look to tip them whenever I can. If I get overcharged sometimes, I don't sweat it. Its part of the 'social contract' between a single male visitor like myself and the Filipino population.

Am I one of those 'exploiters' that the Kilt and those foolish tv documentaries focus on? I don't think so. I enjoy what the country has to offer. I don't overthink it and am acutely aware of my minuscule impact on a nation of 100 million. I think it was Natty Bumpo who once said that he tries to have fun with every personal interaction when in the PI. Hear hear!

[Lonely566]

well those cameras seem great to attach to your bike helmet when speeding down a volcano but you had best figure which part of your anatomy to attach it to, and how good it is with recording close ups. some vid cams arent so good at up close, whereas a really normal point and shoot handles close ups recording really well. the other solution is to hire a camera girl. and believe it or not, there are many that do such work. theres even a few members here who know such ladies.http://www.tube8.com/ebony/hanging-out-in-my-hotel-room-in-takoradi-ghana/10377771/ but the camera is too demanding. i want to strap one on my forehead and jump in to enjoy the fun.

lm

[X Man]

DD, you seem to have misread the posts.

RK didn't say "exploit", that was Hutsori quoting the media.

You also seem to misrepresent what was written in the original post by Sxxx . I'm guessing that Sxxx just used a poor choice of words. I basically agree with what Hutsori wrote.

To be fair, I do think RK's post was a bit harsh. And thanks for clarifying the fact that RK doesn't run the Philippines.

Thank you for reading my post and pointing out the typo. Hopefully this exchange is now finished. Feel free to pm me. X.

note: the SNIP is mostly common sense tipping info.


Have to go with Sxxx and Hutsori here.

That Red Kilt, usually more contemplative if verbose, should criticize Sxxx's endorsement of a status quo over which he as no control, as if Sxxx was actively perpetuating the status quo is unusual. Neither Sxxx nor anyone else here runs the PI.

Xman's misspelt nonsense is par for the course for him and doesn't deserve a reasoned response.

SNIP
Am I one of those 'exploiters' that the Kilt and those foolish tv documentaries focus on? I don't think so. I enjoy what the country has to offer. I don't overthink it and am acutely aware of my minuscule impact on a nation of 100 million. I think it was Natty Bumpo who once said that he tries to have fun with every personal interaction when in the PI. Hear hear!

[Red Kilt]

. .

To be fair, I do think RK's post was a bit harsh. And thanks for clarifying the fact that RK doesn't run the Philippines.I just happen to wish that the Philippines could become the next Asian Tiger in economic terms and that more and more people, including the battered and exploited agricultural sector, will start to get a better income for themselves and an improved quality of life. Already the so-called "middle-class", which includes teachers and call center operators, are benefitting from much larger pay packets.

I don't think I was at all harsh in what I said.

If an improved economy means less easy access to sex for occasional tourists then that's just bad luck. I doubt much will change in my life-time though.

[Hutsori]

RK didn't say "exploit", that was Hutsori quoting the media.I wasn't quoting the media; that heartless comment was all on my own.

[Red Kilt]

http://www.rappler.com/thewrap/june-28-2013-edition#topnine

[Hutsori]

http://www.rappler.com/thewrap/june-28-2013-edition#topnineKoreans... so advanced.

[X Man]

What's your point Hutsori? I was thinking more like "naive K farmers" getting snuckered.


Koreans. so advanced.

[WestCoast1]

Flew from Butuan to Cebu. Scheduled flight time: 40 minutes. Actual time from nose-up to wheels-down: 22 minutes."Ladies and gentleman this is your captain speaking. We are cruising at 40, 000 feet, and begining our descent into Cebu." Can a plane climb from sea level to 40k, then land, in 22 minutes? Of course, if its piloted by James T. Kirk.

Flew from Cebu to Manila. Scheduled flight time: 75 minutes. Actual flight time from nose-up to wheels-down: 41 minutes (12:50. 1:31pm). Include in that a mid-field crossing directly above the manila airport at about 5000' (the old Cavite airfield clearly in view) , a turn out towards the sea for about 6 minutes, and a 180 to get back to the airport. This flight could easily have been shortened to 25-30 minutes. Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?

[Golfinho]

. Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?To keep their on time arrival stats.

[Pute Nut]

This flight could easily have been shortened to 25-30 minutes. Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?So that they can reach the 69. 7% On Time Performance (as recorded for May, according to their website)?

Four or so out of my last five Cebu Pathetic flights have been plagued by 1-5 hour delays ("due to late arrival of inbound aircraft") and bad jollibee chicken with rice. Most of those flights were in the month of May so my personal OTP is around 20 %.

[Member #4698]

Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?To pad the on time arrival statistics and make the airline appear to be performing better.

[Col Law]

Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?[/QUOTE]I always took the timing from gate push to gate arrival?

[Wicked Roger]

Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?WC,

All airlines do this from the most well known to the least popular. I fly around 40-45 weeks of the year and no carrier has ever given me a correct schedule. I know on some carriers that if the plane leaves an hour late I could end up arriving 5-10 minutes late at most and sometime before the scheduled arrival time.

In the Philippines the issue I am told is Manila airspace and the rubbish equipment ATCs have to use (a worry if true). The airspace is too crowded, there are not enough runways and coupled with the inefficiency of many airports and staff adds to the mess.

But then it is fun in the Philippines as you and clearly show in the PG LOL.

[KongKing]

To pad the on time arrival statistics and make the airline appear to be performing better.Yes Cebu Pathetic are great at the chest / breast thumping that their planes arrive ahead of schedule, but seldom offer an apology for a delayed flight.

On boarding one Cebu to Cagayan de Oro flight the air hostess said "Our flight tile will be 35 minutes". On landing she said with some pride "Welcome to Cagayan de Oro. We have arrived 35 minutes ahead of schedule". As I left the plane I asked that hostess "how can we on a 35 minute flight arrive 35 minutes ahead of schedule?". It might have been my slang English but "Huhhhh?" was the response. The secret was CP loaded up and left early.

With such great performance CP, like beam me up Scotty, may soon be able to get us to our destination before we depart? Fat chance.

KongKing

[Red Kilt]

. Why do they publish such lavishly long flight schedules on CP?If you fly often enough around the Phils you get to know how long all these trips take.

No flight is more than 1 hour 50 mins from Manila (Zamboanga, Gensan, Davao) are the max distances. Manila to Cebu is always 55 to 65 mins. Most shorter hops are around 30 mins but you have to add in the interminable delays in departing and arriving.

BTW. Don't think this is a Philippines problem. My last trip to Australia I was plagued by delayed flights and especially the circling around and around waiting for a space to land in both Sydney and Melbourne.

No use complaining. It is what it is. Airline travel sucks all over the world.

[WestCoast1]

BTW. Don't think this is a Philippines problem. My last trip to Australia I was plagued by delayed flights and especially the circling around and around waiting for a space to land in both Sydney and Melbourne.

No use complaining. It is what it is. Airline travel sucks all over the world.No complaint. Just a description of things pinoy. Yes, weather and such delays happen everywhere. The flight was originally scheduled for 12:05pm departure. Then announced a late arrival from Manila, would be a 12:50 departure. Nothing unusual. But the plane arrived on time, then deplaned the Manila passengers. They just took a long time cleaning / servicing the aircraft. We boarded a about 12:10 and by 12:30 the doors were closed and we were pushing back. Got to the holding area just at the cusp of the runway, next in line by 12:40 and sat. The captain said over the PA: "We are next in line for takeoff. Due to sequencing arrivals in Manila we cannot take off until 12:50. We can make up some late time during the flight. Relax and thanks be to God." [Love that religious cultural thing shining thru] At 12:44 we took the runway for position / hold, and sure enough we sat there for 6 minutes, owning the runway (there's only one runway. 4/22, only one aircraft on the runway at a time) at the busiest time of the day, and at 12:50 the engines wound up and we were off.

[Red Kilt]

No complaint. Just a description of things pinoy. Yes, weather and such delays happen everywhere. The flight was originally scheduled for 12:05pm departure. Then announced a late arrival from Manila, would be a 12:50 departure. Nothing unusual. But the plane arrived on time, then deplaned the Manila passengers. They just took a long time cleaning / servicing the aircraft. We boarded a about 12:10 and by 12:30 the doors were closed and we were pushing back. Got to the holding area just at the cusp of the runway, next in line by 12:40 and sat. .To use that hoary old slogan from somewhere in my youth: "I'd rather be late than dead on time"

[Hutsori]

So that they can reach the 69. 7% On Time Performance (as recorded for May, according to their website)?So they game the system by padding the times and get themselves a... D+/C- ?!?

That's a nifty trick.

[Pute Nut]

So they game the system by padding the times and get themselves a. D+/C-?

That's a nifty trick.It seems they arrive at mid to high 70s percentage most months (last month's stats are displayed at entry page at their website).

May may not have been a very good month for CP, even with their creative accounting standards.

The longest delay yielded a JolliBee C2. I don't touch the stuff myself, but luckily there was a filipina fried chicken receptable at hand.

[Djinth]

Dears,

I am planning to go to Philippines and starting making contacts thru DIA to some non-P4P cuties.

Which city / cities in Philippines has / have best chance of getting girls in the range of 18-24 years.

I do not mind to spend some money on them.

Thanks in advance for your advice,

DJ

[GoodEnough]

though i live still in davao, i've begun to commute weekly to manila. usually, the process is fairly routine and unworthy of comment. today's journey however, was rather bizarre and, on reflection perhaps encapsulates the often contradictory extremes that characterize this place. since today's journey was, in a sense, rather metaphorical, i thought that perhaps others might derive some amusement from it.

the good:

1. new pal airbus 340, with spacious seats and in pristine condition;

2. plane left and arrived on time and the pal service was predictably good and efficient.

3. weather en route was smooth and the pilot managed to avoid most turbulence.

the bad:

1."we're parked at a 'remote' gate and therefore passengers must wait for a bus to take them to the terminal.

2. everyone standing, with luggage, with about 2 cms. of space between people. the atmosphere began to get a bit fetid.

3. one bus arrives, no seats so everyone stands. naturally, the airport authorities (geniuses all) try to put the entire planeload of passengers on a single bus. this proves infeasible, but it doesn't stop them from trying for several minutes. atmosphere on bus turns from fetid to slightly nauseating.

4. we prove conclusively, on arrival at the terminal, that 20 people with luggage cannot, in fact, fit through a door designed to accommodate two people. what should have been empirically evident however, did not prevent people from trying to disprove the laws of physics.

the ugly:

1. arrived at the coupon taxi desk and got a ticket for makati 1 for which the fare is always php330 as it was this time.

2. climb into first taxi and tell the driver "fairmont hotel," receiving a placid, vacuous stare in return, followed by the universally understood "huh," promptly followed by the probing question "dis makati?"

3. dismount from the taxi, go to the back, pop the tail gate, remove my luggage and go to the next taxi in line, hand over luggage and get in. driver stares then says "makati?" i grunt. he says: "cannot do. color coding."

4. dismount from taxi, remove luggage and go to the next taxi, a van that appears to be old enough to have transported noah's animals to the ark. driver doesn't know fairmont, but does know it's in makati. i tell him to take the skyway, hand over 20 pesos, and assure him that i will direct him once we reach makati. no problem. plus, he lets me smoke. things are looking up.

5. the antediluvian van gasps and dies in the middle of the expressway, cars whizzing by. it is deader than roadkill. i pop the tailgate, hand the driver a couple of hundred pesos for getting me about two thirds of the way there, and try to flag down a taxi from the stream of cars. i am totally ignored.

the good (redux) :

1. some guy wearing a vest and carrying an umbrella for the sun and / or the rain, strolls up out of nowhere and asks if i want a taxi and where i'm going. i tell him.

2. he gets a taxi to pull over in less than 30 seconds, loads up my luggage, accepts a small tip i'm on my way.

3. arrive unrep001hed at fairmont, and staying here is the best news of all.

the philippines. an oxymoron just waiting to happen.

ge

[Col Law]

Looking to hire some secretarial aid for a few weeks any one know what the going rate is , Of course she is young 21 inexperienced ( but is just finishing her course at college) what would be a fair remuneration. And this is with out extras please.
That is in Cebu City

[Hutsori]

Looking to hire some secretarial aid for a few weeks any one know what the going rate is , Of course she is young 21 inexperienced ( but is just finishing her course at college) what would be a fair remuneration. And this is with out extras please.In which city? You're looking at p10k - 15k per month for a newbie.

[Buko Max]

Looking to hire some secretarial aid for a few weeks any one know what the going rate is, Of course she is young 21 inexperienced (but is just finishing her course at college) what would be a fair remuneration. And this is with out extras please.

That is in Cebu CityMinimum wage in Cebu is 300+ per day but many girls only get 200 or less, sorry to say.

[Wicked Roger]

Looking to hire some secretarial aid for a few weeks any one know what the going rate is, Of course she is young 21 inexperienced (but is just finishing her course at college) what would be a fair remuneration. And this is with out extras please.

That is in Cebu CityCheck the PMs CL as I may have the ideal candidate.

[Slippery]

Dears,

I am planning to go to Philippines and starting making contacts thru DIA to some non-P4P cuties.

Which city / cities in Philippines has / have best chance of getting girls in the range of 18-24 years.

I do not mind to spend some money on them.

Thanks in advance for your advice,

DJAs metro Manila overwhelmingly (by about 10, 000, 000) consists of the largest "cities" in the Philippines, don'tcha think that there'd be overwhelmingly more 18-24 years olds in that pool? Duhhhhhhh

[Econo Tech]

As metro Manila overwhelmingly (by about 10, 000, 000) consists of the largest "cities" in the Philippines, don'tcha think that there'd be overwhelmingly more 18-24 years olds in that pool? DuhhhhhhhAnd add to it the fact that, the whole country population is just 90 mil something. 10 mil in one large city is a big concentration. Though. Caveat emptor! The ones in Manila are generally more smarter than their province counterparts. And the fact that Manila is a large misnomer for a collection of towns doesn't' help.

[Tally Wacker]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=915_1372854037

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/06/21/16/33/video-shows-thai-man-assaulting-pointing-gun-at-russian-expat

[Red Kilt]

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=915_1372854037

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/world/2013/06/21/16/33/video-shows-thai-man-assaulting-pointing-gun-at-russian-expatAlthough the video seems to be re-enacted (why didn't he lock the door when the guy left? Why did he meekly allow the guy to come in the room and then get down on his knees before the guy pulled the gun?) , it does point to the prevalence of violence in society, no matter what provokes it.

http://webapp1.dlib.indiana.edu/cgi-bin/virtcdlib/index.cgi/5772776/FID2/pdf/apvsvc.pdf

Violent crime is largely the affair of young men between the ages of 20 and 30, who are often poorly educated and come from working class or poor backgrounds.
When young men are unhappy with their position in society, they are more likely to resort to violence when their self-esteem is slighted or challenged. (from http://theconversation.com)

I never mess with young filipinos, and I keep away from any situation in which they might be lurking in the background.

[X Man]

I'll say Cebu city. DIA seems to have some good opportunities when it comes to regular Cebu gals. You say you're willing to spend some money, so then I might suggest the p4p MM / AC combo.

But you don't give enought information. A better answer might be offerred if you gave some rough information about who you are, your flight options, and how much time you have. And next time you post on ISG, I recommend you do not start your message with "Dears". Good luck. X.


Dears,

I am planning to go to Philippines and starting making contacts thru DIA to some non-P4P cuties.

Which city / cities in Philippines has / have best chance of getting girls in the range of 18-24 years.

I do not mind to spend some money on them.

Thanks in advance for your advice,

DJ

[Member #4387]

I know some of you are well informed on many levels in the phil community / society so I try my luck for some knowledge regarding probably a difficult issue. One dear friend of mine (probably the kindest and most straightforwards guy I know) have made one pinay pregnant. This girl was turning out ok and seemingly also quite honest keeping a decent job and everything. He was in a communication with her claiming that the embassy wanted DNA test for giving citizenship to the baby (which it automaticaly gets if the father is norwegian but they want a DNA report). Then this mother to be went mental bcs she blamed him for not trusting her and has cut off every communicationline there are(as long as you don't work in any intelligentservice and he does not). All he did was actually refering to embassy rules for obtaining citizenship and passport for phil/norwegian babies. She even changed her FB, mails and phonenumbers. He knows ofcourse her name and whereabouts as in Manila adress and her workplace. He has every reason to believe it is his as he stayed together with her for almost 3 months(as he worked in Manila himself). Which set of rules can a foreign guy (he realy wants this baby) put into work to claim fatherhood and even get the baby to Norway? It is not born yet so it is only for educational purposes at this stage and so he maby can prepare countermeassures to prevent any hazzle? I know some of you now my history with Ms Preggy and everything but here everything is going smoothly and we are very good friends. He is not a member and not a very big mongerer so I told him maby some people in a forum i did know of could be helpful.

[BrainDrain]

I know some of you are well informed on many levels in the phil community / society so I try my luck for some knowledge regarding probably a difficult issue. One dear friend of mine (probably the kindest and most straightforwards guy I know) have made one pinay pregnant. This girl was turning out ok and seemingly also quite honest keeping a decent job and everything. He was in a communication with her claiming that the embassy wanted DNA test for giving citizenship to the baby (which it automaticaly gets if the father is norwegian but they want a DNA report). Then this mother to be went mental bcs she blamed him for not trusting her and has cut off every communicationline there are(as long as you don't work in any intelligentservice and he does not). All he did was actually refering to embassy rules for obtaining citizenship and passport for phil/norwegian babies. She even changed her FB, mails and phonenumbers. He knows ofcourse her name and whereabouts as in Manila adress and her workplace. He has every reason to believe it is his as he stayed together with her for almost 3 months(as he worked in Manila himself). Which set of rules can a foreign guy (he realy wants this baby) put into work to claim fatherhood and even get the baby to Norway? It is not born yet so it is only for educational purposes at this stage and so he maby can prepare countermeassures to prevent any hazzle? I know some of you now my history with Ms Preggy and everything but here everything is going smoothly and we are very good friends. He is not a member and not a very big mongerer so I told him maby some people in a forum i did know of could be helpful.Based on your description, the baby is not his. If the DNA was going to be conclusive she has nothing to hide. In this case her scam has come undone. She could well be hiding from one of the other mongers whom she was also scamming. Why would she cut herself off from a person whom has a biological reason and the means to support her and her baby?. Because it isn't his and / or she doesn't know to whom it belongs.

As hard as it is on your friend, it isn't his baby and he is welcome to visit Manila again.

[Wicked Roger]

Based on your description, the baby is not his. If the DNA was going to be conclusive she has nothing to hide. In this case her scam has come undone. She could well be hiding from one of the other mongers whom she was also scamming. Why would she cut herself off from a person whom has a biological reason and the means to support her and her baby. Because it isn't his and / or she doesn't know to whom it belongs.

As hard as it is on your friend, it isn't his baby and he is welcome to visit Manila again.Skogis,

Firstly was a relief to know it was not you (this time LOL). I did have a friend who thought he had to tell wifey he had made 2 pinays pregnant but that proved a false alarm (much to his relief) after a lot of angst (and calling me for advice)

Am with BD on this, why would any girl throw away support etc unless she was scamming your friend who seems to be honourable and fair in that he wants to take responsibility. Also your embassy has it head screwed on in that it must know of the scams and tries to help its citizens with the DNA procedure.

So I would tell your friend to forget and move on, plenty more cuties and some will still get pregnant. Do the Norwegians eat something that make you outpourings so fertile? The raw fish LOL.