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Wicked Roger

01-05-14, 17:01

I'm sure you've all been amused or at least noticed the strong desire of filipinas to marry,

They often, in chat (internet or in person) will want to know why

"So you have filipina wife here." "So you have filipina gf here." "But you want to marry filipina yes?" "You mean you will marry later? Filipina yes?"

"Sir, can I ask? Why not marry?"

"But sir we have many good pilipina here."Had same converstaions with Filipinas and taxi drivers at times Westie. All want to marry as many have relatives who love to gossip (chismis) who say to the girl "you have white bf, why you don't marry him" This is really a euphermism for " marry him so we can benefit and get lots of cash from him via you"

I actaully say this to some and say that families are not who I want to marry but the girl and if I ever did we would live a long way from the family nest. Another big problem for many who must live with or next to mother / father and thus you will support all along the way.

After a while I tend to use a repeated reply of 'work too hard, travel too much and I am a butterfly" that makes the taxi driver smile and tends to shut him up. Unti he gives you his business card!

Radical Guy

01-05-14, 17:28

After a while I tend to use a repeated reply of 'work too hard, travel too much and I am a butterfly" thats makes the taxi driver smile and tends to shut him up. Unti he gives you his business card!Of course, the easier way to shut up the nosy taxi driver is simply lie and say,"I am here to spend time with my wife." LOL.

RG

Sammon

01-05-14, 17:33

Phi people cannot understand western notion that you can live alone and enjoy life without being married and kids.

All the girls I met wondered why western men choose to live alone. When I mentioned it is easy to get new girls all the time they said married guys also can do it all the time. I guess quite a few married guys in Phi fool around and sometimes it maybe OK with the wives.

Contrary to popular belief Phi people are not always extending a hand for help if their daughter or niece is dating foreign men. Usually it is the girl who gets obligated to help relatives or foot the bill for a lunch or dinner. Usually a firm NO will keep them away. Like anything else in Phi you need to take charge of all decisions and not let your girl do it.

I have had few long time relationships and I have always made the decision on how much money to send her and if or whether to meet any of her relatives. There is really no point in feeling sorry. You cannot solve poverty in the world. If you choose to host it should be your decision and not because of the pressure from the girl or her family.

WestCoast1

01-06-14, 00:02

Phi people cannot understand western notion that you can live alone and enjoy life without being married and kids.

All the girls I met wondered why western men choose to live alone.Yes, this is what I was getting at. The taxi driver made no attempt to set me up with his sister / cousin / friend, etc. It was just the cultural difference shining through. Nobody in the west gives a crap if someone else chooses to be un-married. Other cultures can see this differently, and I run into it often with pinay. Some girls have asked me oodles of times *WHY* I don't want to marry. Any and all explainations fail. They continue to ask, there is no satisfactory answer for them.

OneIpole

01-06-14, 00:21

Not sure what forum to post this.

I'm sure you've all been amused or at least noticed the strong desire of filipinas to marry, and their lack of understanding of those persons who don't want to get married. They often, in chat (internet or in person) will want to know why I don't want to remarry. Recently I ran into a pinoy taxi driver who discovered in talking that I'm not married (they can on occasion be quite chatty and quite nosy).

I hopped into a taxi one afternoon and the driver was chatty. Two days later I was transferring hotels, and the same driver picked me up. Same chatty guy, early 20's. Halfway to the destination:

"So you have filipina wife here." No son, I don't.

"So you have filipina gf here." Not so.

"But you want to marry filipina yes?" No, I don't want to get married.

"You mean you will marry later? Filipina yes?" No, stud, I don't want to get married again. That caused consternation...I have had a few conversations start out like this in a cab. I have a way to get them to shut up as they try to talk about marrying a pina. Sister or friend.

I usually say. Interesting, do you have naked pictures of them I can see?

Cbea20

01-06-14, 01:31

Short responses, rather than explanations, resonate best with filipinas. Here are a couple that I use:

"If I were married, I could not be here meeting you. Someone would be screaming at me!"

"I'm retired from work and from family life too. No more children for me!"

These seem to be convincing. More difficult is to get across that I am not bored and lonely because I live alone, nor made uneasy by a quiet house and neighborhood."

The questions about marriage, I think, reflect dismay at the waste of an eligible foreigner.

Yes, this is what I was getting at. The taxi driver made no attempt to set me up with his sister / cousin / friend, etc. It was just the cultural difference shining through. Nobody in the west gives a crap if someone else chooses to be un-married. Other cultures can see this differently, and I run into it often with pinay. Some girls have asked me oodles of times *WHY* I don't want to marry. Any and all explainations fail. They continue to ask, there is no satisfactory answer for them.

Pip Jaeger

01-06-14, 04:28

I've told a few drivers and girls that I'm a polygamist, but since you can only have one wife in the Phils then I can't get married as it would violate my religious beliefs. That usually shuts them up, LOL.

Wicked Roger

01-06-14, 19:16

I've told a few drivers and girls that I'm a polygamist, LOL.You are Pip as you proved in Cebu with at least 2 ladies with you LOL.

The Christmas pressie is coming I just need to be more tech savvie and in a place where I can access it and send!

Red Kilt

01-07-14, 09:43

Hutsori

01-07-14, 11:32

Not sure if this is the best thread.

Living in the Philippines was an option but I went for General Info because this might interest some of you guys who are contemplating retirement soon and have The Philippines on your list.

Forbes left it off their top 16 places.

http://ph.she.yahoo.com/15-best-countries-retire-2014-160000625.html

The rationale for each choice is very interesting. It certainly opened my eyes.Good link. Thanks.

Here will work; strange there is no "Retirement" thread, though "Residency / Visa" could suffice.

Forbes says: "The information was then used to score each of the top countries out of 100 in categories such as 'Real Estate, ' 'Climate, ' 'Special Benefits for Retirees, ' 'Health Care, ' 'Retirement Infrastructure, ' 'Entertainment and Amenities, ' 'Ease of Integration' and 'Cost of Living. '

Forbes forgot one: "Poosy"

JPF

01-07-14, 22:04

Forbes left it off their top 16 places.Here's a quick synopsis of places that may be of interest from their list:

1. Panama.

2. Ecuador.

3. Malaysia.

4. Costa Rica.

6. Colombia.

7. Mexico.

10. Thailand.

17. Philippines.

24. Cambodia.

The Philippines got its lowest score in Special Benefits: This category considers government provisions that make moving to and living in each country easier and more affordable for foreign retirees. Second lowest was climate (which includes natural disasters).

Econo Tech

01-08-14, 03:27

The Philippines got its lowest score in Special Benefits: This category considers government provisions that make moving to and living in each country easier and more affordable for foreign retirees. Second lowest was climate (which includes natural disasters).Did they also include the fact that any foreigner can be quickly declared persona-non-grata, if he steps on any local's foot?

On that score, it should be right at the bottom.

But, hey, as per SWS, Philippines is doing good for other things. Why fret?

PeterTaylor

01-09-14, 17:04

Ripple67

01-09-14, 17:37

Sam 14

01-09-14, 18:55

Hi,

I have 10 days in Phil from 31 March.

I plan to spend 3 days in Manila, but wondered what to do with the rest / Originally, I thought a week in Angeles, but wonder whether Cebu or Davao would offer more variety?

Any thoughts?

PeterThere's discussion on Cebu vs. Davao not too far back, but I would just remind you that Davao isn't the best place for fast sex unless you like gays or a limited selection of pros. The girls here are conservative for the most part. There's thousands of college students but you're not going to have much luck sitting by UM trying to find someone to help with their tuition. (Don't ask how I know that). You're not going to see independents roaming the malls waiting for you. You may have luck in the clubs if you can handle that, or you may get lucky just strolling around if you got decent looks and game. I accomplished a personal best today, I planted my sterile seeds in three beautiful 18 and 19 year old's in less than 24 hours, and two were sisters. But it took months to get to the point of having a steady stream of quality. One was a sales clerk at the mall and the younger sister I think I met outside the mall, I don't remember it was so long ago. I just remember that she stood me up two times, left me sitting in the meeting place, no text, nothing because she is so shy. That happens most of the time. I have at least a couple hundred numbers in my phone, but 95% of them Ill probably never see again. They will text you, but it's hard to get them to meet again. They're usually "bzy"

Sam 14

01-09-14, 19:34

From ISG's web site the girls in PLP are far prettier / skinnier. So some advice please.

RippleSmaller, I think so, but Skinnier? Not sure about that. Their diet is horrific compared to Thais. A girl came to my place and she was starving. I served her a smoothie made of strawberries, blueberries, tropical fruits, nuts and coconut water along with a bowl of cashews. She preferred to starve. Last week, I offered 2 girls buko. It's these coconut stands where they dilute the buko water with sugar and something else. They were so excited until I brought them whole coconuts with straws. I drank 3 coconuts.

Soapy Smith

01-10-14, 10:35

I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together.

From ISG's web site the girls in PLP are far prettier / skinnier. RippleAs PS points out, diet is not good. The poor ones in rural areas may not have a lot of dietary options, and many poor Filipinos in the urban areas just gravitate to candy, soda, and snacks-in addition to a steady diet of plain rice. The svelte lines of women in the photo gallery probably reflect the selectivity of ISG photographers more than some body type that's inherent among the natives.

Most women do speak enough English to make communication possible, but for many the reason they are working as pros is that they do not have enough education to get other kinds of jobs. Many, perhaps most, of the pros have not even finished high school. Many did not get past 6th grade. So they speak some English, and it improves the more they hang out with Western customers. But most will not be stringing together sentences that permit a meaningful conversation about world events, most are not very intellectually curious, and most can't name any national heroes or martyrs other than Jose Rizal, even though the streets are named after them.

But if you want a pleasant partner whose English is good enough to follow your directions during sex, the Phils is a good place to be.

Cunning Stunt

01-10-14, 12:51

most women do speak enough english to make communication possible, but for many the reason they are working as pros is that they do not have enough education to get other kinds of jobs. many, perhaps most, of the pros have not even finished high school. many did not get past 6th grade. so they speak some english, and it improves the more they hang out with western customers. but most will not be stringing together sentences that permit a meaningful conversation about world events, most are not very intellectually curious, and most can't name any national heroes or martyrs other than jose rizal, even though the streets are named after them.a statement of breathtaking condescension even for you, skip. when a 'pro' friend recently graduated from her college course, she sent me a bunch of her graduation photos, one of which i post here. i felt like a proud (if [CodeWord130] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord130)) dad! even more pleased that my (and no doubt other patrons) financial donations to her had not been squandered. an academic she certainly is not, but nor is she a high school drop-out waster and she is able to converse, in english, quite coherently and intelligently.

she is not, by any means, unusual. i have met and 'helped' quite a few such young ladies and heard many such examples from others. just because they come from a poor and disadvantaged background doesn't mean that they are necessarily intellectually challenged or less ambitious. their ability to use the one precious commodity that they possess (need i be more explicit) to help them get ahead is often testament to their resourcefulness.

Pip Jaeger

01-10-14, 17:22

Soapy Smith

01-10-14, 19:33

A statement of breathtaking condescension even for you, Skip.I'm sorry that it came across as condescension. My thoughts at the time were guided more by resignation.

I think that your situation, and especially your ability to recruit and cultivate, gives you access to women very different than those that Ripple-to whom PS and I were responding-is likely to find. You have time available and much experience in these circles, and that gives you an angle on women that a newbie is unlikely to reach. But even in your case, haven't your recruitment methods changed over recent years? A few years ago, as I recall, your typical recruiting was from LA Cafe or Harrison Place Mall. You had it down so well that you once reported having the walk from Pedro Gil LRT station to LA Cafe gauged at about 10 minutes. I presume now you depend more on online resources and personal networks with the young women you meet.

I don't doubt that numerous college graduates come from poor families whose parents never went beyond 6th grade. I have known a few as well. Education is, in theory, the great equalizer. (I am skeptical.) And there are a few others in the forum who may similarly have access to women like those you describe. But I contend that although women from poor backgrounds make up some given percentage of the women in undergraduate study, women as a whole in poor communities will overwhelming remain uneducated and in poverty-at least for the foreseeable future. And even as increasing numbers of young Filipinas work in call centers and technology outsourcing, bringing new money into poor families, the sheer proportions of poverty and slum life in the Philippines suggest to me that this deeply entrenched poverty will dissipate very slowly. I don't think the supply of poor young single mothers that Ripple will readily find is going to dry up any time soon.

When I am in the Philippines I spend time both around well-educated professionals and also nosing about the slums-but only in the company of trusted locals. I think the description I gave about poor diet, lack of interest in world events, and so on, is an accurate depiction of the slums. Sad, but accurate. I might add to that the total incomprehension of what we call "delayed gratification." When you live constantly on the edge, the principle of reserving a little for tomorrow or planning for payoffs in the future-such as foregoing leisure in order to complete a college education-is an incomprehensible idea. I believe these are the women Ripple is most likely to meet.

By the way, the financial support you lend to these young women has a growing parallel in the states. We have entire websites and use of personals in Craigslist for the "sugarbabes" phenomenon. Young women looking for a helping hand from well-healed gentlemen to support them through college. A few hours on her back replaces many tiring hours waiting tables or cashiering at the Target store. In the Philippines we might regard it as a form of economic development with beneficial outcomes. In the states it merely reflects our declining political will to underwrite public higher education for the masses.

If this discussion continues we should consider moving it to another thread.

Wicked Roger

01-10-14, 20:51

The past few times I've bought my 59 day visa upon arrival at MNL airport (thanks WC for that tip) , but next time I'm considering bypassing MNL and flying straight to Cebu or maybe even AC for a day or three before heading to Cebu. Anyone know if a 59 day visa can be purchased directly at either CRK or CEB airports or will I need to make a trip to the BOI office in Mandaue?Not at Cebu as when I once asked "where can I get a 59 day visa as I can in Manila" the immigration officer looked dumbfounded. Ignorant actually. But you can always get the extension when in Cebu while you extend yourself on more meaty and perverse matters Pip.

Now this may have changed since I last asked but things don't move fast in the country.

Paulr1950

01-10-14, 22:51

Wicked Roger

01-11-14, 01:34

It can be got at cebu, as I have done a few times but not at clark but as you know every thing can change 1 day to the nextThanks Paul, but where in the airport as see my last FR I have asked and got the blank stare from the passport officer so I gave up and did t the other way.

Cunning Stunt

01-11-14, 02:49

I'm sorry that it came across as condescension. My thoughts at the time were guided more by resignation.Sorry, I guess that I was just trying to get you ticking, Skip. You are right, of course. The kind of girl that the majority of members here will encounter is far different than my target audience. This is not to denigrate anybody as the majority of the players who come to The Philippines are far more hamstrung by time constraints than I. So they have, by necessity, to gravitate towards the packaged side of the market. This consists mainly of bargirls and available dating site contacts. The former are often the type of girl you describe, ignorant, poorly educated and often single mothers, usually lifted directly from their provincial barangays and plonked directly into the bar scenes of Manila, Angeles and Cebu. The latter is much more my fertile hunting ground but I have the advantage of more time and patience to spend in the development of contacts and potential and being in location to exploit it. A girl who most of the time would not dream of meeting a foreign stranger for NSA sex, suddenly finds herself in need of rapid cash and it is then that on-site opportunists, such as me, are in position to help. This has happened numerous times.

You are also correct in that my modus operandi has altered quite a bit over the years. As I have got older, so my methods have changed and become much more cerebral. I used to enjoy the thrill and excitement of the on-the-ground pussy chase in the malls, on the streets, in fast food joints and in bars such as LA Cafe in its heyday (MBC in its present form is a pale shadow of its former glory). Nowadays most of my hunting is done online and by texts and video calls. Far less exciting but much safer and more comfortable. I still enjoy the thrill of the chase but largely do it now from the comfort of home.

BTW. I think that the concept of 'delayed gratification' is one that is completely alien to the Filipino mentality per se. Filipinos are, in my experience, default set to live for the moment and have limited ability to forward plan and to sacrifice the 'now' for a better future.

Makeupaname

01-11-14, 03:21

Thanks Paul, but where in the airport as see my last FR I have asked and got the blank stare from the passport officer so I gave up and did t the other way.I did not try it my self, but on the non-monger cebu site I read, the say it can be done in cebu.

"when you arrive at Mactan on an incoming international flight, you go through passport control before claiming your bags and going to customs, right? Before you go through the passport booths to get your passport stamped, you will see an office door on the back wall (I think it's even got a sign saying "Immigration""

Hutsori

01-11-14, 04:55

Wicked Roger

01-11-14, 07:36

I did not try it my self, but on the non-monger cebu site I read, the say it can be done in cebu.

"when you arrive at Mactan on an incoming international flight, you go through passport control before claiming your bags and going to customs, right? Before you go through the passport booths to get your passport stamped, you will see an office door on the back wall (I think it's even got a sign saying "Immigration""I will need to take a look next time but I have never seen it there. But that is not to say it is not there I am just a man who according to female logic can't multi task (well true maybe unless she is cute and lots of toys LOL)

But the immigration guys did not know. But then no surprises there at times I suppose.

Will also check out the non monger site as am sure I know which one you mean.

Soapy Smith

01-11-14, 08:05

Sorry, I guess that I was just trying to get you ticking, Skip.I think I knew what you were up to. It's probably easy to get me ticking, but at least this time I didn't get off on some tangent on Hofstede and others writing about national culture. Maybe after a few months you can get an update from your recent graduate as to her employment situation. Although the call center industry offers some hope, I think there's such a disjuncture between the education Philippine colleges provide and the actual needs of Philippine society and business that her employment situation may still not be that great. Or perhaps you coached this one in throat exercises so that you contributed to improving her English skills as well, and that alone could improve her chances for call center work.

Cunning Stunt

01-11-14, 11:57

Maybe after a few months you can get an update from your recent graduate as to her employment situation. Although the call center industry offers some hope,She tells me that she has got a job stocking shelves at an SM Supermarket. And there was me thinking that she would disappear into some leafy bower of academia or start training to be a brain surgeon. Should have known. This is The Philippines after all where you need a college education to land a job shoveling shit!

Hairy Wonder

01-11-14, 14:20

I've been in Thailand for almost six weeks. One thing I was not prepared for was how [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor most Thai's English language skills are. It's kind of been a spoiler on the holiday (no one can answer questions about local customs) and on mongering. I was planning to enjoy six weeks play here then go somewhere more exotic (such as Burma) for some cultural tourism, but really I am so disappointed by the linguistic (and other) skills of the girls that I have bedded here that I am thinking of going to the Philippines, where apparently the girls can string a couple of sentences together.

RippleOr you could just go back to your own English speaking country where you can expect many people to "string a couple of sentences together." Sometimes I wonder about that here in USA though. It never ceases to amaze me how arrogant English speaking people are when they decide to travel around the world. English may be a global language for business, but not for the masses. If you want to talk to girls, learn to speak their language. You will get so much more benefit from this small amount of effort than you ever thought possible. For most mongers, conversation is not really an important aspect for the time spent with the honeys in any nation. But showing those same honeys that you are interested in them enough to try speaking their native language just might get you a little more of the GFE. It worked great for me on multiple stints in South Korea, and the small amount of Tagalog I have learned has helped in Philippines as well. In any country, the girls you meet in mongering areas are most likely not the best for explaining local customs. Many of them travel far from their family homes to avoid the embarrassment of their family knowing what they are doing. If you want information on local customs and cultural tourism, you will most likely have better luck at a tourist information office.

Done with my rant now. Flame on!

HW

Wicked Roger

01-11-14, 16:35

Although the call center industry offers some hope, I think there's such a disjuncture between the education Philippine colleges provide and the actual needs of Philippine society and business that her employment situation may still not be that great. Or perhaps you coached this one in throat exercises so that you contributed to improving her English skills as well, and that alone could improve her chances for call center work.The call centres are an option but generally the girls I know get burned out or just can't hack the hours. Real life wake up small the coffee working hours (yes for a small salary but better than a stacking shelves at SM salary). I know some who have quit call centres twice and wonder why other call centres wnt take them.

Many talk about how hard working Filipinos are and I have done this on the forum and emlpoyed some but always overseas. Many here that I meet don't seem to understand that waking up at 7am and going to work is mandatory not optional LOL. Some I know happily ask me (seriously) what jobs can they do tht start in the afternoon as they like to sleep in.

Go figure but it is still more fun here as CS throat education pictures show.

Sammon

01-11-14, 17:38

Although the call center industry offers some hope, improving her English skills as well, and that alone could improve her chances for call center work.My girl ' du jour ' last time worked in a call center. They do not pay much she said. Besides it is not a regular contracted job. More like as needed basis. At least this is from her. Not sure if she was trying to elicit sympathy and more donation?

She seemed honest and stayed with me for three days except the time she had to go to work which varied from day to day. Not sure if she is in the training phase or actual job. She is well educated and has a business degree.

Problem is too many applying for same jobs. None of the jobs are permanent unless the girl gets government job. But to get a government job she needs good connections.

However I give it to these girls who take their life in stride. She told me she got a degree hoping to get out of Phi because she knows very well job opportunities in Phi are few and far between. Unfortunately she said all the foreign jobs require experience at least 2 years. Even after that it costs approx 24, 000 pesos to get the documents, medical, agency commission etc. Not all agencies are honest. Some just collect the money only.

Majority of the girls I met in Phi are smart. Even if some are not fluent in American English they try hard to learn.

In general wheels of life chugs along. Have not seen real malnourished people like we see on TV in Africa.

WestCoast1

01-11-14, 18:20

Wicked Roger

01-11-14, 18:34

Was skimming thru some of the other forums last night. Africa, europe, india, middle-east. Makes me appreciative of the SE asia boards. Go take a look for yourselves: Difficulty finding girls, begging for girly information, over-priced ladies ($ hundreds / hour. Really!) , ladies who run off after the first finish, days between posts, photogalleries with more comments than pics.Which boards do you have in mind Westie as there are many LOL.

India is really bad and the UAE is moving that way as the demographics of the country change (ie more Indian expats arrive). In the UAE I recently noted that paying AED 600 (around PHP7000) for a massage with FS and second HJ was a tad excessive and clearly way to much but put in context of the country etc. Also the CIS girls in the UAE get a bad reputation and IMHO rightly so as so many just drink the mini bar, get very drunk (and possibly violent as in the case of 2 good friends who ignored ny advice) and then disappear very early (ang maybe with some of your goodies). And that paying PHP 4000 for a 'mature' ugly PRC who already has shagged 2-4 guys that night is crazy but the environment is what drives that behaviour. More so when some ethnic groups just over pay and the girls will fleece them.

We are lucky in the Philippines and the board is self moderating so it is readbale, informative (if people RTFF) and enjoyable. Posters such CaliPro / THB etc tend to cme and then disappear after a few months when they get called out on some of their outrageous comments / views. And when some posters boast about saving $10-20 on a girls tip it really annoys as they don't realise how lucky they are in the country.

See you soon, sorry we missed each other in Makati recently as you would liked who was with me LOL.

Soapy Smith

01-11-14, 21:07

Have not seen real malnourished people like we see on TV in Africa.I think you are right that those extremes are rare in the Philippines, but do ask the girls if they know anybody who eats "pagpag."

http://www.cnn.com/2012/04/30/world/asia/philippines-pagpag-slums/index.html

Mr Hawaii

01-12-14, 06:15

Did a search, could not find any info on this. Has anyone exchanged the new $100 USD yet? Any problems? I will be going back in March for first time in a long time. 5 years.

D Cups

01-12-14, 07:49

Did a search, could not find any info on this. Has anyone exchanged the new $100 USD yet? Any problems? I will be going back in March for first time in a long time. 5 years.I just got back from Manila and Cebu and did not have any problems exchanging the new US $100 bills.

Altered Ego

01-12-14, 16:04

Does anyone have a view on whether it is worth visiting the Philippines around the Easter holidays? The last time I was in Manila / Makati at Easter (admittedly about 6 years ago) , everywhere was closed (or dead) on Good Friday, Black Saturday and Easter Sunday, and I recall that (in addition to the gogo bars) even the restaurants were closed, so we had to go to a hotel to eat. Also I believe that a lot of bar girls appeared to have taken the opportunity to go back to their provinces, so the week after Easter was quieter than usual as well.

Would any members with more recent experience care to comment? Secondly, is the situation at Easter perhaps better outside Manila / Makati. For example in Angeles City?

Altered Ego

01-12-14, 16:13

Pip Jaeger

01-12-14, 17:47

Did a search, could not find any info on this. Has anyone exchanged the new $100 USD yet? Any problems? I will be going back in March for first time in a long time. 5 years.Must not have searched too hard or RTFF, your question was answered on 12/13 in the AC thread; by me! LOL.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1507427#post1507427

Pip Jaeger

01-12-14, 17:48

I just got back from Manila and CebuHope you had great trip D; we're anxiously awaiting some pics of the heavy breasted ladies you found!

Mr Hawaii

01-13-14, 05:46

Must not have searched too hard or RTFF, your question was answered on 12/13 in the AC thread; by me! LOL.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1972-Angeles-City&p=1507427#post1507427Thanks. Geez, I typed in "new","100" "bills" USD into the search engine, and got nothing. Hmm. Thanks again.

Ripple67

01-13-14, 06:47

Hi Skip

Thanks for your reply. I wasn't looking for meaningful conversations about world events, but maybe just the ability to arrange a meeting tomorrow or go beyond 'Me. I 1 brother 2 sisters I 23 years old. You want boom boom? '

But if you want a pleasant partner whose English is good enough to follow your directions during sex, the Phils is a good place to be.Well that would be an improvement at least.

Ripple

D Cups

01-13-14, 07:11

Hope you had great trip D; we're anxiously awaiting some pics of the heavy breasted ladies you found!PJ: I had a great trip to PI and BKK, HKT and SGN, too. I am not posting photos because 1) it's too much trouble and 2) most of the girls I promised Iwouldn't.

Capt Munch

01-13-14, 15:13

Thanks. Geez, I typed in "new","100" "bills" USD into the search engine, and got nothing. Hmm. Thanks again.Mr. H,

Just before Christmas, I received a batch of the new 100's from my bank (my first time to see those.) I took those to one of the money changers across from the Checkpoint Jeepney station in Angeles. No problem.

I would think that the money changers are starting to see a number of these now. I can't speak for other locations like Manila or Cebu.

Munch

Mayntain

01-13-14, 15:34

I did not try it my self, but on the non-monger cebu site I read, the say it can be done in cebu.

"when you arrive at Mactan on an incoming international flight, you go through passport control before claiming your bags and going to customs, right? Before you go through the passport booths to get your passport stamped, you will see an office door on the back wall (I think it's even got a sign saying "Immigration""I made the mistake of going thru immigration to collect my luggage, because I had a lady grab my bag and was almost out the door before I caught her on my last trip. Then when I tried to get my 59 day extension they said, Sorry sir! You cannot get it now, have a nice day.

Asian Rain

01-13-14, 15:59

Hope you had great trip D; we're anxiously awaiting some pics of the heavy breasted ladies you found!Don't hold your breath Pip. Posting a pic or a meaningful field report would require a "contributor" mentality. But rest assured there will be plenty of juvenile "boobie" contributions in the Photo Gallery to endure. Too difficult to use the PG Chit Chat thread as well. Hehe. Enjoy the Philippines, AsianRain

Cunning Stunt

01-14-14, 02:05

PJ]I am not posting photos because 1) it's too much trouble and 2) most of the girls I promised Iwouldn't.Are you sure its not because you are unable to master the technological complexities involved in posting a photo? LOL.

Slippery

01-14-14, 02:37

Are you sure its not because you are unable to master the technological complexities involved in posting a photo? LOL.I am indeed unable to master those complexities however, I made my decision long ago not to take or publish pics after being shook down hard in my favorite city, Detroit, by Homeland Security. My issue is I doubt if D Nuts was even in the Phils.

Gangles

01-14-14, 12:41

There is that exquisite moment when, after a long incarceration in sex prison, you fall into the open arms of a loving woman. She opens herself up to you, and invites you into her secret space.

As you feel her close in around you, and you are in her warm, moist innards, you know that you are in heaven. Life is worth living again.

Gangles

FreebieFan

01-15-14, 01:45

, and you are in her warm, moist innards.

GanglesIntestinal probings? Pancreatic procreation? Sexy spleening? What were you doing in her innards! LOL!

WestCoast1

01-15-14, 01:52

SNIP.

She opens herself up to you, and invites you into her secret space.

As you feel her close in around you, and you are in her warm, moist innards, you know that you are in heaven. Life is worth living again.That kinda gave me a stiffie.

Econo Tech

01-15-14, 04:03

Hi Skip

Thanks for your reply. I wasn't looking for meaningful conversations about world events, but maybe just the ability to arrange a meeting tomorrow or go beyond 'Me. I 1 brother 2 sisters I 23 years old. You want boom boom? '

Well that would be an improvement at least.

RippleYah, but sometimes, they can get on your nerves and it hurts your bad, when they decide to go non-stop talking and non-stop texting and you know what the hell it is all about, since it is in English LOL.

Wicked Roger

01-15-14, 06:11

Well the Church has finally got into spin business in an attempt to make sure over population is seen as positive. The following is so funny as the guy says it is good to be over populated as then pinays an be all be DHs. WTF? A funny article if he was not being serious and am sure many will believe him and spout forth the same later.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/331529/overpopulation-good-for-filipinos-says-bishop

Not sure if this is positive or negative for FP as not heard from his recently. Maybe he is travelling around the Philippines and in the provinces has no internet access? LOL.

Streetlooker

01-15-14, 07:21

Altered Ego

01-15-14, 21:47

I have gone to AC and the PHILIPPINES the last 4 Holy weeks and things are cool. Bars open like usual but some girls go home. PLUS its something else going to see a LIVE Crucifixion which I highly recommend if you can stomach it. Also like the guys walking the roads with HUGE crosses to bareMany thanks Streetlooker. Perhaps things have changed a bit since I was last there at Easter (which, as I mentioned, was around 6 years ago).

But I think I will pass on the re-enactment of the Crucifixion!

Are you talking mainly about AC, or do you know if Burgos is fully open during Holy Week as well?

Streetlooker

01-16-14, 07:16

Many thanks Streetlooker. Perhaps things have changed a bit since I was last there at Easter (which, as I mentioned, was around 6 years ago).

But I think I will pass on the re-enactment of the Crucifixion!

Are you talking mainly about AC, or do you know if Burgos is fully open during Holy Week as well?I am talking AC slower at that time but a good time can be had. Most times I am with a GFE Long time by then anyways and am not barhopping

Nvslim

01-16-14, 11:47

http://news.yahoo.com/authorities-break-international-****-ring-095122378.html

london (ap) — child abuse investigators have dismantled an organized crime group that live-streamed child sexual abuse to order from the philippines.

britain's national crime agency said thursday that a joint investigation with authorities in the united states and australia broke up the ring, resulting in 29 arrests people in 12 countries who had paid to watch the abuse.

"this investigation has identified some extremely dangerous child sexual offenders who believed paying for children to be abused to order was something they could get away with," said andy baker, the deputy director of the agency's command for child protection."being thousands of miles away makes no difference to their guilt. in my mind they are just as responsible for the abuse of these children as the contact abusers overseas."

the investigation began after a routine visit to timothy ford, a registered sex offender in britain. police found a number of indecent videos on his computer and contacted child abuse investigators, touching off a global investigation beginning in 2012.

uk authorities worked with the australian federal police and usa immigration and customs enforcement officers as well as the international justice mission, a non-governmental group. together the agencies presented their data to authorities in the philippines to identify offenders and victims.

the investigation — codenamed operation endeavour — identified 733 suspects and has resulted in some convictions, including ford, who was sentenced in march to 8 ½ years in prison. the agency said ford paid to watch the live abuse and had planned to move to the philippines to set up an internet cafe.

another customer, thomas owen, who was sentenced in july to seven years in prison had discussed traveling to the philippines together. ford, who uses a wheelchair,"suggested that owen could act as his carer so they could travel to the philippines together in an attempt to avoid detection," police said.

the probe began in 2012 and resulted in 15 children aged between 6 and 15 being safeguarded from abuse.

stephanie mccourt, of the uk's child exploitation and online protection center, which is now part of the nca, told the bbc that ****s should know that the internet is not a "safe place for them."

"they must also not be under the mistaken impression that this is a crime which carries no guilt because it happens on the other side of the world," she said."it is just as bad, just as harmful as though it was happening to the children right here in the u. k."

the arrests underscored the well-established problem of cybercrime rings victimizing children in impoverished communities.

community support to eradicate the problem is crucial because the crime often is concealed in the privacy of homes away from the attention of authorities, said mayor michael rama of cebu city in the central philippines, a region where some of the abuses have been reported.

"when you have some poverty, the availability of information and technology and the attraction for easy money, these abuses happen," rama told the associated press by telephone."city hall can fight this but if the villages don't get involved, what's going to happen?"

philippine police senior superintendent gilbert sosa, who heads an anti-cybercrime unit, said incidents of abuse have been monitored in cebu, manila and angeles city north of the capital.

impoverished parents allow their children to be sexually abused and watched by paying foreigners via the internet in exchange for $100 to $200, sosa said.

"we're continuing with our operations," sosa said."we've not eradicated this."

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gomez reported from manila, philippines

Altered Ego

01-16-14, 22:09

Many thanks Streetlooker. Perhaps things have changed a bit since I was last there at Easter (which, as I mentioned, was around 6 years ago).

But I think I will pass on the re-enactment of the Crucifixion!

Are you talking mainly about AC, or do you know if Burgos is fully open during Holy Week as well?
I am talking AC slower at that time but a good time can be had. Most times I am with a GFE Long time by then anyways and am not barhoppingThanks again Streetlooker. If anybody has any info on what the scene is like in Manila / Makati at Easter then I would be pleased to hear it.

Pip Jaeger

01-17-14, 00:51

not at cebu as when i once asked

snip

now this may have changed since i last asked but things don't move fast in the country.
it can be got at cebu, as i have done a few times but not at clark but as you know every thing can change 1 day to the next.
i did not try it my self, but on the non-monger cebu site i read, the say it can be done in cebu.

"when you arrive at mactan on an incoming international flight, you go through passport control before claiming your bags and going to customs, right? before you go through the passport booths to get your passport stamped, you will see an office door on the back wall (i think it's even got a sign saying "immigration""let's see: one "no", one "yes" and one "heard through the grapevine", lol. well, i guess i'll find out for myself in a few weeks as i've decided to go directly to cebu via clark. i'll be sure to post my findings.

Makeupaname

01-17-14, 08:11

In Cebu, arriving from Clark you would already be in the domestic area. In Cebu it must be done in the International area before passing immigration control.

Pip Jaeger

01-17-14, 11:24

In Cebu, arriving from Clark you would already be in the domestic area. In Cebu it must be done in the International area before passing immigration control.Good point, sometimes it's the obvious things we overlook that'll bite us in the ass. I've only flown into CEB on domestic flights and I've never paid much attention when I've arrived, but since it's all one terminal maybe I can still get it taken of.

Jp Slicky

01-17-14, 14:10

Slippery

01-17-14, 14:53

Catholic guilt. It was too much fun for her.

Wicked Roger

01-17-14, 15:08

JP,

Some have said to me after enjoying a vibe and / or other toys that it could damage their pussy and / or ass and give them cancer. Rubbish spouted by friends, what they read on the internet (plenty fake disinformation sites) etc.

Plenty reasons and maybe get a small pocket vibe and show her? Not the glorious rabbit types my cuties all love.

And we know it does not cause cancer. Only having a hairy pussy can do that LOL.

Member #4387

01-17-14, 16:11

Catholic guilt. It was too much fun for her.That makes sense. One girl I did fuck this afternoon came straight from church. She asked for upfront forgiveness I presume, LOL.

Sammon

01-17-14, 17:53

I am sure this may bring a few laughable comments but hope for a few serious ones.

I am in Tokyo.

I met a woman from Pinaluv here in Japan working as a live in teachers so she says.

We have had sex 2 times so far.

The last time I introduced her to a vibrator, the kind with a big round end.

I have seen women use these before and this so called wife of mine always used it.

When I used it on her, she was arching ber pussy to it and moaning some too. One thing for sure she did not push my hand away while I was doing this to her.

After a bit she she enough and told me she did not like it, which seemed odd due to reactions. She said she does not want to see the vibrator again.

Last night we were talking and she mentioned again how she disliked it. I told her not to worry as I will not bring it again, and apologied that my idea did not work out as a gentleman.

Obviously I want to keep this fuck buddy relationship going, since Japan is a shitty place to monger for a 54 year old. She has not said No to me about a next meeting but she said I hurt her pussy. But if it hurt then why did she not push it away which would be a normal reaction?

I am thinking that she is may be playing a game with me to try and dump me. And using this as an excuse. Well what ever will be will be. But I always treated her kindly in and out of bed.

Anyone on this forum have any of their ideas what she is really up to? Or what her game may be? Or is she just a lier?

Your thoughts?If I may put my two cents on this situation,

1. When I was young I had a American GF and we were having sex almost every day. One time I asked her if she likes to try anal. Nobody used condoms at that time. She agreed. So we had good anal sex.

After a couple of days she complained to me that I hurt her badly and got annoyed. Although during anal sex she never said anything and enjoyed it. After sex she said it was really enjoyable.

So why suddenly start accusing me?

Only thing I can say is some girls do not like pain although during sex they are enjoying and do not say anything. \

2. Another time another girl. We usually did missionary. One time I suggested from the rear. Did not complain but next day yelled at me for hurting her pussy. Her complaint was in that position I was hitting her uterus and causing pain. She could have stopped me but did not.

3. Another girl wanted me to use a big vibrator on her. I told her it was too big for her small vagina. She insisted that I shove it all the way in and make her happy. Next day she complained of pain and would not give me sex for whole week till it healed. Worst thing is she blamed me for rough handling.

4. I have had few virgins who got their vagina very sore blaming me. In fact they are the ones pushing me to have sex with them many times a day after they found out how pleasurable it is.

It is very hard to figure out feminine mind. In spite of us being kind and considerate they will find some excuse to blame us.

Usually they come around and apologize. Having said that I have also encountered many girls who really love rough sex and associated pain.

In your case just explain to the girl that usually both the man and the woman get carried away during sex and if she felt pain she should express it. Tell her she is in control and if she wants you to stop you will.

Wicked Roger

01-17-14, 20:19

It is very hard to figure out feminine mind. In spite of us being kind and considerate they will find some excuse to blame us.

Usually they come around and apologize. Having said that I have also encountered many girls who really love rough sex and associated pain.Sammon,

If we could figure out what goes on in a woman's mind we would be a much happier bunch of men. It is one of those unsolvable mysteries (some of those tough maths theorems would be easier to solve LOL)

Also you should know we are always to blame even when we have never been anywhere near the scene of the crime!

And yes we al get carried away and your reasoning is good IMHO.

But I know a few girls who love rough sex, BDSM etc and they truly love it. For them the pain is pleasure and the rougher the better.one I know comes a lot when she is enjoy some serious pain. Each to their own I say!

Pip Jaeger

01-17-14, 22:25

The last time I introduced her to a vibrator, the kind with a big round end.

When I used it on her, she was arching ber pussy to it and moaning some too. One thing for sure she did not push my hand away while I was doing this to her.

After a bit she she enough and told me she did not like it, which seemed odd due to reactions. She said she does not want to see the vibrator again.

She has not said No to me about a next meeting but she said I hurt her pussy. But if it hurt then why did she not push it away which would be a normal reaction?In addition to some of the things already mentioned, it could just be a simple case of over exertion. Ever work out at the gym and the next day your muscles are sore?

It could also be that in the heat of the moment you used a little too much pressure. If given the chance to break out your toy again, either let her use it on herself, use light pressure or only use it intermittently.

Jp Slicky

01-18-14, 05:21

I guess I could have used the low setting or have her do it to herself.

If she pushed my hand away I would have complied, but she did not.

I do meet her after her church mass on sundays but she can be very aggressive in bed too so I figure she be more open minded to it.

She like me to lick and suck her pussy.

Just do not get it

WestCoast1

01-18-14, 07:03

Just do not get itNone of us ever will.

Dirtdog

01-19-14, 15:32

Here is a screen shot of a conversation with a pinay. She is going to join me for a few days this week and this is our conversation we have already been together once.

Gangles

02-01-14, 17:45

Gentlemen,

I am heading back to PI soon.

One gf who I will meet up with in Manila needs to buy a gasoline engine powered water pump. Buy somewhere in Manila. For her rice farm.

I know that it is easy to buy Honda powered, or Briggs and Stratton powered pumps. But they are bloody expensive.

I know that there are lots of Chinese made pumps that are suitable, and much less expensive.

Can anyone advise where I can buy such a water pump in the greater Manila area?

Thanks in anticipation,

Gangles

Cunning Stunt

02-02-14, 07:27

Can anyone advise where I can buy such a water pump in the greater Manila area?Ace Hardware stock shitloads of pumps. I'd try there first.

Red Kilt

02-02-14, 08:46

Ace Hardware stock shitloads of pumps. I'd try there first.Agreed. I bought one there. It wasn't that expensive. Also "Handyman" has a range of options too.

Check out http://www.alibaba.com/ . They sometimes have bargains, and lots of Chinese brands too

Just use the search facility for water pumps or diesel water pumps or whatever you want.

MrTran

02-02-14, 09:58

Good afternoon everyone,

Local time here is 4:50PM. Decided to get an escort on backpage. Noticed courtesan had a girl for 3k / 2hours.

Struggling to find a review online, I bit the bullet.

Called at 2:38PM- she came at around 3:40 after Mr Ray called me and confirm that she'll be 30-45minutes.

15minutes late. Not too much to worry. She came and I suggested a shower.

Next thing we get on the bed and she gives me a very mechanical blow job saying she doesn't like giving blow job.

I said fine, lets fuck. She will not do cow boy, some doggy and some of her on top facing me. I haven't ejaculated yet and she just kept complaining.

My mood was off chops, she wouldn't let me finger her either. I said fine go shower, gave her the 3k and told her to leave.

I went back on the website and complained, they say they'll get Mr Ray to talk to her and see what happens.

Please avoid this ad below.

http://manila.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/fresh-new-cutie-available-now-new-to-the-business-lily-3k2hours-20/2773818

I skipped breakfast and lunch, was going to go after this fucking but I'm just so pissed that I have to post this up first.

I do have a video recording of this which will be uploaded once I am back from vacation (4weeks, Manila, vn and hk).

Stay away from Manilacourtesan.

MrTran

Tally Wacker

02-02-14, 18:21

Gentlemen,

I am heading back to PI soon.

Can anyone advise where I can buy such a water pump in the greater Manila area?

Thanks in anticipation,

Gangles

Try this site.

http://www.sulit.com.ph/index.php/classifieds+directory/q/gasoline+engine+water+pump/province/Metro+Manila

Hutsori

02-03-14, 07:16

Good afternoon everyone,

Local time here is 4:50PM. Decided to get an escort on backpage. Noticed courtesan had a girl for 3k / 2hours.

Struggling to find a review online, I bit the bullet.Seems to me you're 0 for 3.

Whilst I admire your willingness to venture off to uncharted places I think you'd do much better for yourself by reading the forum and visiting the more tried-and-true places, such as MBC (again LA Cafe) , Havana, Burgos St, etc. Before taking a girl back to your place clearly establish what acts you expect her to perform and receive; the negotiation may also include positions, how long she'll stay, etc. You ought to include the requirement of "no complaining".

Econo Tech

02-03-14, 11:40

Seems to me you're 0 for 3.

Whilst I admire your willingness to venture off to uncharted places I think you'd do much better for yourself by reading the forum and visiting the more tried-and-true places, such as MBC (again LA Cafe) , Havana, Burgos St, etc. Before taking a girl back to your place clearly establish what acts you expect her to perform and receive; the negotiation may also include positions, how long she'll stay, etc. You ought to include the requirement of "no complaining".Well, some have to take on challenges, like the guy who swore he will check the cheap corner in AC, with not much money, forgetting that cops can 'invite him over to the station. ' etc. Etc.

Well, for some Pinay Logic:

Pinoy logic, for some fun.

I met this girl, A, who is a semi-Pro. And was building up the case for a screw session.

Then so happened, I came to know her friend B, is a pro, and want me to screw her too.

So I ask A, what is her thinking if I screw B.

First A says "if you fuck my friend, it is ok, have no concern, she need the money anyway."

And then she says "oh, by the way, if you fuck B, you must use condom when you fuck me."

No, she didn't ask if I use Condom or not with B. Just her logic, if I sleep with her friend, who she consider 'dirty' I cannot go bare anymore with her.

Just like the pinay who got married told me."I have husband now, must use condom now onwards."

Welcome to PH!

Another thing you learn in PH.

I booked a flight for April, in Philippine Airlines, non refundable, and then decided to pre-pone the flight to March. And duly bought a ticket for March, and did the rest.

Since I am 100% sure I am not going to travel for the April season, I was going to inform the airline that my April Flight is not to be used, and consider it cancelled. And maybe they can release it for sale.

Then a light bulb moment happened. I felt the idiots may cancel the wrong flight, as many things get lost in translation in PH.

Decided to keep quite. Let the airline have an empty seat, than they be allowed to re-sell in view of pax cancellation. Than the airline cancel the wrong booking of mine.

We learn inn PH.

JPF

02-07-14, 14:26

I read the article in the Philippine Star but here is a link to the same article (different headline, though) :

http://news.xin.msn.com/en/regional/philippines/young-internet-driven-filipinos-more-sexually-active

The survey was of Filipinos aged 15-24. One third said they had pre-marital sex up from 23. 2% in 2002 and 17. 8% in 1994. That seems low to me.

The number of female "teenagers" (their term but doesn't jibe with 15-24 age range) who reported being pregnant was 13. 6% last year compared to 6. 3% in 2002. That number seems better to me.

You can read the article for their explanations about the Church's waning influence, media, etc.

Questor55

02-07-14, 23:01

Certainly the more attractive urban Filipinas will be having pre-marital sex as a matter of course. The church has little influence when it comes to crime, corruption and sex. Technology has definitely enlarged the talent pool, lucky for us!

Gangles

02-08-14, 16:20

Thanks to the guys who could offer advice re sourcing and purchasing a water pump.

Looks like the deal is sealed, or will be in a couple of days.

Gangles

WestCoast1

02-08-14, 16:26

Pip Jaeger

02-08-14, 16:43

Go have some fun:

http://www.lostateminor.com/2012/11/24/women-read-classic-literature-while-being-secretly-pleasured-by-a-vibrator/

Check out girl #4, Teresa, from 7:10 onward in the video. Who IS this Clayton Cubit guy?

Thanks Aussiegaigin for the website.F'ing hysterical and oddly erotic at the same time, gives me a few ideas for my upcoming visit and I already have the perfect toy for it too! But I guess I'll have to up my standards and find girls who can read, hahahaha!

Wicked Roger

02-08-14, 18:37

F'ing hysterical and oddly erotic at the same time, gives me a few ideas for my upcoming visit and I already have the perfect toy for it too! But I guess I'll have to up my standards and find girls who can read, hahahaha!You should let your lady use the vibrating (remote control) egg and then give the remote to the waitress and ask her to press the buttons. Lots of fun LOL.

And I think I have one you can borrow Pip plus others as I am a good boy scout and always accessorize for the ladies

And who cares if they can read LOL.

Red Kilt

02-15-14, 12:38

Nolz7

02-15-14, 14:16

Slippery

02-15-14, 14:37

Just a heads-up for those of you who walk on the wild side and get off the beaten path and who wander down the road less travelled.

If ever any dog in the Philippines bites you, no matter how small the nick might be, get yourself straight to the nearest hospital and get the rabies shot.

My neighbor's sister's little boy (7 yo) , who lives in a northern province, died today of rabies from a bite inflicted on December 30.

The child never said anything until 2 weeks after the bite when he started showing all the symptoms of rabies. The doctor discovered that he had been bitten when he saw the symptoms and asked the boy when he was bitten.

He was too far gone for anything to be done.

Takeaway lesson: Stay away from all (most?) dogs in the Philippines and get a rabies shot if ever a dog bites you.

Make sure your wives, gfs, fubus and others know how deadly rabies is. Faith healers and prayer don't stand a chance.Got bit by all things, a chiuaua in DR several years back. I saw it barking at the gate at its owner's home. Little bastard was so small he went under the gate, got behind me and nailed me across the achilles. I had to shake the little bastard off. Was seeing a doctor within 30 minutes. Saw my little friend a couple days later, ran home and got the special burger I made for him. Never saw him again.

Pip Jaeger

02-15-14, 15:11

Takeaway lesson: Stay away from all (most?) dogs in the Philippines and get a rabies shot if ever a dog bites you.

Make sure your wives, gfs, fubus and others know how deadly rabies is. Faith healers and prayer don't stand a chance.Excellent advice RK! Years ago I got bit by a rabid raccoon that had gotten into my garage and had to go for treatment. Back then I had to get 17 injections in the abdomen spread over a 21 day period. Extremely painful, but left untreated the consequences would have been far worse. At least now it's usually only 5 shots given with a regular smaller sized needle and spaced out over a few days; the first one at the site of the bite and the rest in the shoulder or thigh.

Pip Jaeger

02-15-14, 15:15

This isn't really a mongering topic, but more like travel advice. We all want to make the best out of our mongering time and one thing that can certainly make your trip uncomfortable or maybe even ruin it: bedbugs. And the last thing you want to do is bring these things back home with you. A senior member here PM'd me with question about my recent review of the Queens (mirrors on the BR walls. And no, there aren't any) and also mentioned that he had a severe problem with bedbugs at the Bourbon St Condotel.

Worldwide there's an increase of the little critters showing up in hotel rooms (and not just the cheap hotel chains or mom & pop places either). An inexpensive and good home remedy for repelling them is scented dryer sheets like "Bounce". Pull back the covers, rub one around the bed as well as the pillows and then tuck one under each corner of the bed. You can also tuck one into each pillow too. Be sure to change them weekly and no more bedbugs! Also, keep one in your suitcase too and you can put one in the hotel closet as well. Google "dryer sheets as bed bug repellent" and see for yourself.

They really do work and I've been using dryer sheets for years in my motor home to keep ants and bugs out when I store it during the off season (put them in cabinets, storage lockers, etc). In addition, I also put one in my suitcase whenever I travel; keeps roaches and other creepy crawlies out too.

Not comprehensive, but two good resources for anyone concerned about bedbugs in their accommodations:

USA / Canada:

http://www.bedbugregistry.com/

International:

http://registry.bedbugs.net/

WestCoast1

02-15-14, 15:49

Saw my little friend a couple days later, ran home and got the special burger I made for him. Never saw him again.There's this kid down the block that I don't like.

(kidding)

Hairy Wonder

02-17-14, 21:46

Fellow mongerers,

I recently was treated to the discovery of a special newly discovered talent my girlfriend has. We have been apart for quite some time now, which initially put a big strain on our relationship. But we have done our best to keep things going good, because she is the mother of my only son. Since I am stuck here in sex prison (a. K. A. USA) , and the price of flights never seems to come down to a decent value when I have time to travel, we are limited to using the internet chat services to keep in touch. Thank God for Skype! During a recent chat session, she decided to completely disrobe on camera and began playing with herself for me to watch. Now this is not the first time she has performed on camera for me. But it did take quite a bit of coaxing to get her to pleasure herself the first time. I'm happy to report that she does it like a pro now, with no hesitation. What made this session different, is she discovered that she can make herself squirt! At first, she screamed with surprise when it happened. She was ready to quit the session in order to run to the bathroom and clean herself, but I convinced her to keep going with it. That first time was difficult for me to see on the video, but she quickly brought herself to the level of squirting a good stream at least 6 to 8 inches above herself. She told me that she was trying to control it in order to keep from soaking all of the furniture in her room. Hahaha I kept encouraging her to continue, hoping that she would completely loose control. But, although she squirted at least 20 times during our session, she maintained control. So I told her that I want to see her do this again when I visit her the next time (in May I hope) , and I will buy some plastic sheets to cover the furniture so she will not need to control it. I fully expect the room to be dripping when she is finished. She asked me to take a video of her doing this because she wants to watch herself. Unfortunately, she knows about this site, and told me that she will cut off my balls if she ever sees herself on here. So, I'm sorry, but I will have to continue to enjoy this gem by myself.

Happy mongering!

HW

Amavida

02-18-14, 04:15

Not comprehensive, but two good resources for anyone concerned about bedbugs in their accommodations:

USA / Canada:

http://www.bedbugregistry.com/

International:

http://registry.bedbugs.net/Appreciate the effort. I've never seen them in any Hotel I've ever stayed at.
I've seen & treated scabies/bed bugs in poor disadvanted communities like aboriginal Australians.

One single report about Bourbon St Condotel I would take with a grain of salt. Occasionally I see an odd isolated comment of bed bugs on sites like TripAdvisor but no confirming reports from any other guest. Could be just just a disgruntled guest also?

Your links are to a private blog that has nothing but links to ads for treatments. Hmmm.

Westmead Hospital department of Etymology has factual info here : http://medent.usyd.edu.au/bedbug/

AV

Gangles

02-18-14, 17:45

At the end of my last trip, as always, I got tested for the complete spectrum of STI.

As before, the report came back negative.

That brings to 436, the number of women with whom I have had sex in my life, never used condom, and never contracted an STI.

For your consideration.

G

Gangles

02-18-14, 17:51

Socker

02-18-14, 19:51

While I appreciate the trip reports from AC that are currently ongoing where are the pics? Are current pics not an important part of any forum? Why does this even need to be asked?

If you're going to give reports then give some proof too. Pictures are proof. Pictures put us all where the reporter is. Why are there no pics?

There are many bars that allow pics. There are many bargirls that like to pose for pics. On other boards there are great pics of whats available right now in AC. What is the problem here?

Where are the freaking pics? I want to see what's going on. I want to see some honeys. Is that toooooo much to ask?

Sheeeeeeeeeeez, some freaking weak TR's.

Slippery

02-18-14, 22:54

There are at least 10 other websites out there where you can see all of the pics of AC bargirls that your heart desires. Or in the alternative, go there.

Socker

02-19-14, 00:00

There are at least 10 other websites out there where you can see all of the pics of AC bargirls that your heart desires. Or in the alternative, go there.I guess you're one of the lazy guys too, as is your right, but I do like your response, very good.

What is the difference between a good TR and a boring one?

I'm going to go to the other sites now to see a few pics but I'll be back later for more of this.

Wicked Roger

02-19-14, 01:19

I know a couple of Filipinas who have had a child, and whose boobs have gone soft as a result.

I discussed it with a local cosmetic surgeon here, and he suggested that all that they need is a breast lift, which is relatively simple.

If I can find reasonably good surgeons in Cebu and Manila, who charge an acceptable price, I will be prepared to fund them for the procedure (s).

Can anyone provide recommendations for suitable cosmetic surgeons in Manila and Cebu?

Thanks in anticipation,

GanglesGangles,

The cost of a decent breast enhancement in Cebu is around 160,000 pesos or more am advised (well I do get bored and like to research!) but some of the cuties seems to think just pumping some chemical into the boobs will help. Which I think it does but this is a temporary solution am told.

Best you PM etc (you know the address) for more.

D Cups

02-19-14, 04:29

Gangles,The cost of a decent breast enhancement in Cebu is around 160,000 pesos or moreHello G and WR, I would hope that for that kind of money some double Ds were possible! I saw a place right across the street from Hotel Cesario in Mactan but did not inquire.

Gangles

02-19-14, 07:01

Hello WR,

Thanks for the info.

I am not looking for a breast enhancement, only a breast lift.

This puts the breasts back how they were before the baby.

It involves removing some of the loose skin which was stretched, from around the breast, so that it becomes firm again.

No need to pay for the inserts, which are expensive.

Thanks,

Anyone else have some info?

Gangles

Gangles,

The cost of a decent breast enhancement in Cebu is around 160, 000 pesos or more am advised (well I do get bored and like to research!) but some of the cuties seems to think just pumping some chemical into the boobs will help. Which I think it does but this is a temporary solution am told.

Best you PM etc (you know the address) for more.

Wicked Roger

02-19-14, 07:58

Hello G and WR, I would hope that for that kind of money some double Ds were possible! I saw a place right across the street from Hotel Cesario in Mactan but did not inquire.Well these were done in Cebu but not at Belo but another surgery and cost upward of 160-180k pesos.

LifeIsABeach

02-19-14, 08:16

Appreciate the effort. I've never seen them in any Hotel I've ever stayed at.

I've seen & treated scabies / bed bugs in poor disadvanted communities like aboriginal Australians.

Westmead Hospital department of Etymology has factual info here :

http://medent.usyd.edu.au/bedbug/

AVThe only place where I had bedbugs while mongering was about 10 years ago in Cuba. As I had stayed in a Hotel and at that time I could not bring a Cuban back to the hotel, we had to do our stuff in either the places where they lived or rent a room in someone's house / apartment for about USD 5. 00 ST. Those buggers were big but I have never had them anywhere else.

D Cups

02-19-14, 15:07

Well these were done in Cebu but not at Belo but another surgery and cost upward of 160-180k pesos.Yum, yum! Thanks, WR! (. V.)

WazWallaby

02-20-14, 06:55

guys, just thought i'd share a little about dia, since i have been tardy about doing my first trip to phils.

i hunted down some pinay pussy in my hometown in oz, and in where i have been doing some work in germany.

to me, both lovely finds, and both 50 something! i know, but read on. i am 58 by the way. berlin babe is pale skinned, long term. 30 yr resident, divorcee. toned body from everyday gym work, classy, with some dough, so leads a middle-class german life. she is mad into sub / dom stuff, and pissing sex, which i have never done before hooking up with her. i have enjoyed it a lot! only had two weekends with her, and we hole up in a posh pub, the ritz-carlton, and do our thing. a very good value find on dia!

other babe is a more typical small, brown fucking machine pinay. 53 yrs, lives alone in a nice suburban bungalow in melbourne, a very good tropical garden she has cultivated herself. i want to fuck her under full moon in that garden one night, once i have warmed her to the idea. hehe thing about madam is she had only one kid. 25 yrs ago, and she has got a fabulous shaved pussy like a 20 something. i am not kidding, it is tight and luscious. and she knows her bed stuff, no starfish here. revved up and firing she has a great habit of biting my nipples hard just as i am building to the vinegar stroke and i come buckets, neighing and bucking like a stud stallion serving his first mare of the season hehe we then typically collapse asleep, and then greet the next day with a morning glory balls deep doggie! it's all good stuff, almost more than i can stand. i have to ration myself on her and make myself scarce for 2 weeks or so between fucks. took me a long time to winkle her out on dia.

all that has come about because of my inability to get to phils, but this will change soon. i am absolutely determined to spend a month there later in the year, with every day being paid by my employer since i finally have got a good gig. i am in engineering. with well paid holidays. yippee! had a couple of lean years there due to gfc. anyone want to help me lynch a banker? . thing is, more dia promo coming up, i have spent a lot of time on dia, and have linked up with a small select string of pinay fillies in manila / angeles, where i will spend a week, and in cebu and davao, where i will spend 2-3weeks. i have sent literally hundreds of messages and mails, photos etc, cultivating this list so very eager to get on the ground and fuck my balls off for some weeks. due to my german and oz experience, i am interested in all ages, and currently am in close dia contact with ladies from eligible late teens, through 20s. 30s. 40s. damn right, i am looking forward to it.

so, my advice, give dia a go.

take it easy, or any other way you can get it!

Socker

02-21-14, 19:31

Socker,

I prefer that percentage to be 0% and I do my best and hardest each time to ensure the girls know the benefits of waxing fully (or a good shave using baby oil as smoother LOL). Some will find this FR distasteful etc but who cares as those eating a forest should eat black forest gateau (cake) rather than black forest pussy LOL.No doubt there's some scary pinay pussy but to find a pretty one w / a soft Bush on top is a delicacy. I know you're a pussy barber and so be it. I like your style anyway.

Kudos on your pics these days. Got to get a collar but in Colombia they'd put it on me, better not bring it there.

Here's a pretty little Bush that I don't remember except for the pic.

It just looks so GOOD!

Dark Knight1

02-21-14, 19:50

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/579695/widow-of-american-diver-offers-reward-in-hunt-for-killer

Manila, Philippines – The widow of slain American diver and Coast Guard volunteer Matthew Caldwell is offering a cash reward for anyone who can help the police capture the alleged killer, a security guard who fled after the August 2013 incident in Las Piñas City.

Radical Guy

02-21-14, 20:39

No doubt there's some scary pinay pussy but to find a pretty one w / a soft Bush on top is a delicacy. I know you're a pussy barber and so be it. I like your style anyway.

Kudos on your pics these days. Got to get a collar but in Colombia they'd put it on me, better not bring it there.

Here's a pretty little Bush that I don't remember except for the pic.

It just looks so GOOD!Yes! Now that's what I'm talking about! .

Socker

02-22-14, 01:41

Yes! Now that's what I'm talking about! .The first little cutie after a long flight in 2011 AC

Gangles

02-22-14, 19:43

BrainDrain

02-23-14, 04:30

I am interested in all ages, and currently am in close DIA contact with ladies from eligible late teens, through 20s. 30s. 40s. Damn right, I am looking forward to it.

So, my advice, give DIA a go.

Take it easy, or any other way you can get it!Thanks for the reminder about using DIA for hometown adventure. When I did my first trip to Phils I too was looking at the 20-45 age range. I've since been narrowing my sweet spot to 23-28.

If you are a few months away from getting to Phils you can save yourself a lot of messages "when are you coming? Have you had breakfast etc etc" by putting your account on hold. I usually tell them I will be away travelling on business for a couple of months, I will contact you a week before I come. They really don't plan too far ahead as each week is the same.

My next trip in late March I will just leave my contacts until day of arrival or even when I have arrived.

Enjoy your trip.

Amavida

02-23-14, 05:55

Hi,

My plans for my upcoming photo shoot in Cebu have been upset when I found that the huge hotel room / s that I have used in the past are now leased for the rest of the year.

So I am now looking for one very big room, or a very big suite, or two very big adjoining rooms.

But not expensive.

The place that I used previously is a dump, but had two unused penthouses.

Now I need a new venue.

Can anyone let me know if they know of such a place in Cebu?

I will post this also in the Cebu thread.

Thanks in anticipation,

GIf you need for a week or more try contacting local real estate agents. They handle holiday lettings. Usually a fully furnished condo or house is way better value than hotels. I do this in Manila. Sorry I don't have a contact in Cebu but Google will give you plenty to canvass.

AV

Member #4410

02-23-14, 22:23

Just a heads-up for those of you who walk on the wild side and get off the beaten path and who wander down the road less travelled.

If ever any dog in the Philippines bites you, no matter how small the nick might be, get yourself straight to the nearest hospital and get the rabies shot.

My neighbor's sister's little boy (7 yo) , who lives in a northern province, died today of rabies from a bite inflicted on December 30.

The child never said anything until 2 weeks after the bite when he started showing all the symptoms of rabies. The doctor discovered that he had been bitten when he saw the symptoms and asked the boy when he was bitten.

He was too far gone for anything to be done.

Takeaway lesson: Stay away from all (most?) dogs in the Philippines and get a rabies shot if ever a dog bites you.

Make sure your wives, gfs, fubus and others know how deadly rabies is. Faith healers and prayer don't stand a chance.Better yet, get the shots (multiple) before you travel. They are valid for 5 years and if you are bitten it gives you more time to find a hospital that has the proper antidote. Additional advantage: if you didn't take the shots before your trip you only have approx. 24 hours to find a hospital. If you had the shots you have some more leeway.

Regards,

Ko

Wicked Roger

02-27-14, 14:23

FreebieFan

02-28-14, 02:00

Amusing article in many respects and shows what not to do when at immigration. Guy was 'intoxicated' read likely pissed ot of his head as why else would do what he did and then be banned from the Philippines (probably for life?).

http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1436Yes, its been said before on this board and many others, Philippines Immigration are a super sensitive bunch.

Protected in their jobs by a very strange Civil Service code, that prevents them being fired.

They may talk to their colleagues on their phones but you are forbidden from using yours.

Your persona when passing Immigration should be to look straight, be quiet, only talk when asked to respond to a question and be polite.

Many are denied the keys to the kingdom for telling these fine Immigration staff what they think of the slow lines etc.

This guy must have indeed been well oiled, as in 30 years of entry / exits, haven't seen an immigration officer who's buttocks I would want to actually squeeze.

Dg8787

02-28-14, 02:43

Amusing article in many respects and shows what not to do when at immigration. Guy was 'intoxicated' read likely pissed ot of his head as why else would do what he did and then be banned from the Philippines (probably for life?).

http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1436Another idiot foreigner thinking they can do as they please like they were back home in the mother country. Whether it is Philippines or any other country you have to behave at immigration. I don't even know why this is even news-worthy. The guy got off easy with deportation. If it happened in the US, he would be doing time in Federal prison for sexual battery on a Federal officer and deportation at the end of prison time.

Wicked Roger

02-28-14, 03:12

This guy must have indeed been well oiled, as in 30 years of entry / exits, haven't seen an immigration officer who's buttocks I would want to actually squeeze.LOL he was also an Arab / Turk by his name and my Arab / Turk mates love meaty, chubby ladies as more to hang onto so clearly this guy got horny. But while we al have different fetishes I don't see anything cute of sexy in their uniforms.

FF- there was a cute one the other week stamping my passport but I refrained from saying / asking anything such as her mobile number. As you said best not get into a conversation with them.

Odd job if they can't be sacked. Imagine letting a fugitive through immigration (as has happened) , maybe get a payment for it and then when found out know that the service can't dismiss you. Can I have that job please also LOL.

Soapy Smith

02-28-14, 08:06

I think we should say that Philippine immigration officers are 'mostly' immune to intervention into their actions:

http://www.pinoyexchange.com********showthread.php?t=277322

http://thepinoy.com/?p=341

And apparently some Filipinos share outsiders' views about the actions of their immigration officers:

http://myepinoy.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/the-arrogance-of-celebrities-and-immigration-officer/

In defense of Philippine immigration I note that in my last two visits through NAIA 1, since they added a separate bank of immigration booths for Philippine citizens, the wait at immigration has been negligible, perhaps even shorter than for Filipinos. Most of my recent experiences returning through American immigration have seen fewer immigration officers available and taken considerably longer.

ps. The board chopped characters out of the first url I tried to post. Do your own browser search with keywords--Evangeline Arroyo immigration officer--if you want to look at the article that appeared in the Inquirer.

Socker

02-28-14, 08:41

I picked up a new nice, young, slim girl at MBC last year. She was sitting gossiping with half dozen older MBC pros. She was so new to the business she did not know how much to charge me.

She was a student who ran out of money, tried a couple sales jobs that did not make her enough money to pay rent and eat. She was taking me around showing me all noteworthy sites in Manila with her local knowledge.

For a girl from a remote island, she had very good manners in most situations. We would walk hands in hands like lovers. The street vendors were always staring at her, commenting that I had a sexy, good-looking young GF.

For a couple days, she treated me with care and honesty. I was really thinking of her and treating her as a date, not a prostitute. We exchanged a lot of knowledge, mostly hers about life the Phil, not much mine. With her I did not have to keep all my guards up as if I were dealing with the nasty, hard-core hookers and escorts, more like sneaky, venomous snakes, in California. I was totally relaxed with her.

We had a great time together in and out of bed. She felt good enough to initiate sex couple times. I trusted her enough to fuck her bare back for a couple days. She was smiling shyly, telling me how good I was making her feel as she was grinding her pussy hard into my stiff dick. We were whispering erotic, but not dirty things to each other. I had a much better time with her overall than most escorts I took in China, except a few who spoke English.

She's a nice, clean, thoughtful, somewhat educated girl. She's more reticent than the typical ugly and loud brats in MBC. Don't know if, in mixed companies, she would prefer to chat away with her friends over me.

I was very impressed with this little girl for the nice, clean, fun, sexy, good, caring and thoughtful company she gave me in Manila. I wish all my dates are like her.

In contrary, my "dates" in Angeles City turn out to be crude, mercenary and generally big disappointments. The girls are just crude and not polished enough to be selling anything left alone sex or intimate companies. I would probably never return to AC again until there are better girls working there.

It was in the Angeles City Forum and now it's here in general information. Why? Because there's nothing in it about AC.

AAAAAND

This post by LSW is very revealing in that he really likes GOOD GIRLS.

He is very clever in knowing NOT TO TREAT a prostitute like a regular date. What this means I guess is, no trip to moms for some cocoa.

The good news is the crude AC mercenaries will have to do w / out our brave young lad in white.

Haha, never know what you'll learn here.

Red Kilt

02-28-14, 10:31

I think we should say that Philippine immigration officers are 'mostly' immune to intervention into their actions:

http://www.pinoyexchange.com********showthread.php?t=277322

http://thepinoy.com/?p=341

And apparently some Filipinos share outsiders' views about the actions of their immigration officers:

http://myepinoy.wordpress.com/2006/11/04/the-arrogance-of-celebrities-and-immigration-officer/Those are VERY old news statements SK. (2006)? As you acknowledge, they are from the time of President Arroyo.

Things are very different now.

There have been 3 Immigration Commissioners since 2006 and each one has become tougher than the last.

I was actually at BoI in Intramuros today (Friday) and one of the heads of section (who I happen to know quite well) told me the current (new) Commissioner is very strict and bringing in more and more tougher measures to cut down on illegal actions by staff (including CCTVs on every booth etc).

He is also trying to streamline procedures for foreign visitors, but is finding it difficult to get past entrenched behaviors.

My experiences at BoI office and arriving and departing at all of the NAIA airports 1, 2 and 3 in the past 2 years has been mostly positive and without any aggro at all.

Cunning Stunt

02-28-14, 15:25

Oooeerrhh...am I the only one here turned on by women in uniform in positions of power? Most Pinay immigration officers are, I admit, old harridans but last time I entered the country, I did spot a young, attractive one. Needless to say I joined her queue and alleviated the boredom of the wait by indulging in a spot of idle fantasy in which she and her uniform figured prominently. When I reached her, she turned out to be a thoroughly competent and polite young lady who actually smiled at me. Obviously hadn't had time to develop the trademark immigration officer supercilious smirk or scowl.

Do wish that they would change the dowdy uniform though. Perhaps to something more like this.

Soapy Smith

02-28-14, 16:27

Those are VERY old news statements SK. (2006)? As you acknowledge, they are from the time of President Arroyo.All right, so maybe I was trying to show off my memory for trivial events. It made an impression on me because I read about it on about the second or third day of my first visit to the Phils. And maybe it's a striking event because it's an instance of an Arroyo taking a visible public-interested (sort of) action. (Actually, I've read that Evangeline is sort of an environmental advocate [? ])

By "tougher" you seem to imply tougher on immigration officers, as in running a tighter ship. Probably generally a good thing, except for when one of us wants an immigration officer to exercise discretion and give us a break.

Soapy Smith

02-28-14, 16:29

Do wish that they would change the dowdy uniform though. Perhaps to something more like this.Or why not try to get your hands on one of those dowdy uniforms and put it to a more exciting use in one of your excellent photo shoots at Eurotel?

Red Kilt

03-01-14, 02:36

By "tougher" you seem to imply tougher on immigration officers, as in running a tighter ship. Probably generally a good thing, except for when one of us wants an immigration officer to exercise discretion and give us a break.Yes SK unfortunately that is the fall-out from the tougher impositions.

I have already experienced an example where the officer wanted to exercise her discretion and help me avoid some trivial bureaucratic step but "Sorry Sir, the new Commish insists that we follow the rules".

Cunning Stunt

03-01-14, 03:30

Or why not try to get your hands on one of those dowdy uniforms and put it to a more exciting use in one of your excellent photo shoots at Eurotel?Would that I could but its not the kind of thing that you can pick up everyday on ebay. What are more realizable and which I'd love to add to my collection are the sexy green one-piece SM hypermarket uniform and the mind blowing red Air Asia trolley dollies kit which I'd happily remove with my teeth alone. Just thinking about it brings me out in a lather. Whew!

Red Kilt

03-01-14, 09:59

Just further to the point I made a few posts back about improved efficiencies in the BoI, note the following innovation.

http://www.rappler.com/nation/51882-naia-paperless-passenger-clearance

Soapy Smith

03-01-14, 18:39

Just further to the point I made a few posts back about improved efficiencies in the BoI, note the following innovation.

http://www.rappler.com/nation/51882-naia-paperless-passenger-clearanceOn my last return to the states through JFK they had readers up that apparently scan off the bar code on the edge of the inside of the passport. But it doesn't save on paperwork for the traveler, since the form for the states is for both customs and immigration-still need to complete it for customs. But it does save waiting and processing time in the immigration lines. And too bad for me: machines are unable to read my bar code.

Socker

03-01-14, 19:03

The dude put out more then a few decent pics, needs a better camera but nonetheless he produced the pics. Kudos for that.

But the gist of my post was about respect and being generous. WR lays it out a little better then me.

I won't hold my breath either as MM is concerned those who respect the girls and like quality will screw up his cheap Charlie approach but as you said CS plenty "stunners" at 500 or less (just the now departed from the board CaliPro who boasted here and elsewhere amongst others). Issue with 500 pesos girls is they may have the wrong gonads or age (under or granny / tranny LOL) but each to his own flavor.

Just why spend thousands to get here and then boast about stiffing a taxi / trike driver etc 50 pesos or pay 500 pesos. Odd behavior IMHO. Discussed with a fellow member or two recently and we all agreed these people are really the types who give the girls a bad impression of the better more respectful guys.

MM we welcome your contributions but post a pic or two before CS, me or others find those 500 pesos stunners and posts them for you LOL.

FreebieFan

03-04-14, 04:45

Shipping, telecommunications, casinos, malls, utilities, housing. The Chinese (Tsinoys) own it all.

http://business.inquirer.net/165351/forbes-10-richest-in-ph-for-2014

Not a Filipino name amongst them, most of these names can trace their ancestry to Fujian province.

The size of their wealth can be measured by the fact that for all the Ayala malls in the country, for all that you spend on Globe, for all the apartments they build, for all the p25 you spend in parking fees, for all the 10% in leasing fee they make from almost every business in Makati including New World, Peninsula, Dusit, Shangri La etc. Not one Ayala has made it to this list.

Socker

03-04-14, 07:56

Prepare to get ragged on dude. According to Socker this known hooker lowballed herself and actually spent money on you. So that makes you a miser and a low life.Mr E-nutzski,

As an ole president once said,"there you go again". LOL. You're a riot Mr. E, I love your stuff.

Read it Bro!

Had a girl once that I bar fined for a few days before show up uninvited unannounced to my hotel room. We spent 2 days locked up in the Clarkton doing nothing but watching movies on the TV and shagging with a few calls to room service never left the room really.Why the f would he be obligated to pay her when she came to his room uninvited looking to hide out and fuck.

Everything that is happening to this guy is instigated by the bargirl. Of course he has no obligation to pay her. He's doing her a fucking favor.

More of the story.

Well anyways this guy and her supposedly got into a fight about it and she needed a place to hide out for a few days so he would not be able to find her and asked me if she could stay in my room for 3 days and I could shag her and watch movies again all day like we did before. I took her up on the deal and I got free sex for the next 3 days. Hell she even bought me a few meals at the Clarkton restaurant which is not cheap by Philippines standards.Once again, as explained here the monger did her a favor / service by helping her stay off the streets. But Mr E reads it differently. Why? That's the million dollar question.

Your on an island Mr E and no amount of spinning or twisting facts will get you off. You don't need to do this either and you know it.

I know you're a good guy and a while back you even made fun of yourself about being a cheap charlie. That's when I started liking you and nothings changed. I would share a drink w / you, buy you a drink too but I wouldn't do business w / you.

Mr E, I said a lot of relevant things about ethical methods of negotiating and you would rather point the finger in another direction because my points are indisputable (I guess).

I'm a 2 week millionaire 3 or 4 time a year so I know I have a bigger budget for each individual transaction. I understand that there are mongers that have to be more cost conscious because they're in the market place much longer than I. I don't fault people for getting good deals. That is part of,"what it's all about", part of the fun. Getting good deals on pussy, mango, bbq chicken, whatever, deal making is a skill to be enjoyed. But there is an extreme too and you know it.

I talked about extremes in my last post but you can't / won't address those extremes. It's cool, lets just take a breather alright bro?

Amavida

03-06-14, 01:20

Yes, its been said before on this board and many others, Philippines Immigration are a super sensitive bunch.

Protected in their jobs by a very strange Civil Service code, that prevents them being fired.

They may talk to their colleagues on their phones but you are forbidden from using yours.

Your persona when passing Immigration should be to look straight, be quiet, only talk when asked to respond to a question and be polite.

Many are denied the keys to the kingdom for telling these fine Immigration staff what they think of the slow lines etc.

This guy must have indeed been well oiled, as in 30 years of entry / exits, haven't seen an immigration officer who's buttocks I would want to actually squeeze.Aww come on FF, this is not a Phil's thing. In any airport you lose all legal rights & protections. In order to have as little stress as possible you swallow your pride, smile, go along with whatever nonsense they mandate & behave with decorum. Behaving as if NAIA is equivalent to an AC bar is just off the charts dumb. One assumes Germanic temperament combined with an intoxicating substance contributed to this fiasco. Having a deportation stamp in ones passport goes against you wherever you go in future. What a pea brain!

We all know this is a third world country with a large pool of young women desperate enough to do anything to escape but its wrong to automatically assume all Pinay are sluts.

AV

LexLuther

03-06-14, 01:57

Aww come on FF, this is not a Phil's thing. In any airport you lose all legal rights & protections. In order to have as little stress as possible you swallow your pride, smile, go along with whatever nonsense they mandate & behave with decorum. Behaving as if NAIA is equivalent to an AC bar is just off the charts dumb. One assumes Germanic temperament combined with an intoxicating substance contributed to this fiasco. Having a deportation stamp in ones passport goes against you wherever you go in future. What a pea brain!

We all know this is a third world country with a large pool of young women desperate enough to do anything to escape but its wrong to automatically assume all Pinay are sluts.

AVAssuming one had been deported and that proof of this had been stamped into one's passport, what would prevent one from simply obtaining a new passport? Just because your current passport has not expired is not a reason for not being able to obtain a new passport.

Apart from this, I agree with your post. It's best (especially after traveling the better part of a day or longer to reach Phils) to just suffer a little longer and keep one's mouth shut. And in the case of a mongerer, since we know what is or can be right around the corner, a small amount of patience and forebearance will pay off in weeks of unbridled joy.

LexLuther

Amavida

03-06-14, 02:56

Assuming one had been deported and that proof of this had been stamped into one's passport, what would prevent one from simply obtaining a new passport? Just because your current passport has not expired is not a reason for not being able to obtain a new passportCertainly LL, throwing away your current passport & obtaining a new passport removes the embarrassment of the deportation stamp in your passport but the records will remain. Any time an customs / immigration official asks "have you ever been deported from any country?" you must answer truthfully in the affirmative because its almost certain they will know or soon after. Way to screw up a visa application!

One of my Pinay GF's who claimed to be a reincarnation of the virgin Mary made the mistake of handing me her passport, I flipped it open & there as bold as brass was deportation stamps from Dohar. She claimed it because she was late for the plane. Riiiiggghhhtt suurrree.

AV

Socker

03-07-14, 01:56

I have been seeing two non-pros in AC for three years and have never given them a thing.

Way to go Mr E, show us how it's done.

Socker

03-07-14, 02:38

The barfine system is quite simply a cartel, which is a distortion of the free marketplace. This is the starting point for AC. The impact of this price fixing has a knock-on affect where men wrongly conclude this is the "right" price and FLs use this distortion. Women, who aren't controlled by pimps, and men who choose to negotiate outside this construct are engaging in an activity much closer to the free market.Aaaaaaaaaaaa okay bro.

Scams are rampant in all of the Philippines you have to be strong of mind and pay attention. If you are weak they will target you. I slept with one girl 500p and no problem, a guy I knew from Germany slept with her and it cost him 10,000p. Treat the girls with respect and make them happy and don't show weakness and you will be fine. Or just go to the bars and barfine the girls and you don't have to worry about it.MM, I know what you mean, that you have to pay attention and be on guard when hunting but being a good hearted guy is not being a weak guy. A smart monger will give what he intends to give and not much more.

Exploitation, miser, lowlife, give me a break, if you want jump on your high horse then stop having sex with these girls and still give them your money. I told one hottie at High Society that I only would pay 500p for ST. Now most girls in High Society would turn there backs on that price. She said she usually makes 1500p ST and 3000 LT because she is beautiful. I said, I only pay 500p because I am good at sex. She asked me for my number. That night she took home some Asian guy and blew me a kiss as she was leaving HiSo. Two days later about 4pm she called me, came to my hotel and we banged each other's brains out and she gave me her friends phone number and I did the same thing with her friend the next. 500p a pop!

Different strokes for different folks but you can't find one girl I have ever had sex with that say I exploited them.

I am very proud of the Lollipop dick pic I took of Ruby. Check it out in my 13995 post.

Good luck, Stay Safe and don't be a Hater!

GMMOkay MM this is where I also agree w / you. I didn't say exploitation but the other pejorative words came out of my fingers. I shouldn't have used those but they just flew out because of the automatic argument I get w / Mr E. I am always shocked when someone argues the right to be unscrupulous. I should leave the discussion at that point but I am foolish in thinking I can help someone see another POV. Hence the frustration. My mistake, lets just say there are some very "money minded" mongers in the hobby. Okay? (biting tongue)

On the last note I don't think it's underhanded to throw out any number to a FL. BUT, I do think if you are given a good (low) price from a FL (a human being selling her body) I think it unscrupulous to leverage her lower. That's my opinion. I think guys that are inclined to do this are few and far between.

Dg8787

03-08-14, 06:29

I am not sure if this is the right forum but will ask my question. As a USA taxpayer if I have a business investment in Philippines can I deduct my travel expenses? Or a pro-rated share?

Red Kilt

03-08-14, 15:55

Assuming one had been deported and that proof of this had been stamped into one's passport, what would prevent one from simply obtaining a new passport? Just because your current passport has not expired is not a reason for not being able to obtain a new passport.That's a bit naive Lex. Your passport is merely a way of accessing your database record.

My NBI friend has told me that all records are updated to an international database.

Your record is more important than your passport as AV said in an earlier post. A deportation order is more than a stamp in your passport and it doesn't expire just because you get a new passport.

I came through NAIA today and the Immigration officer knew I had been in Malaysia because he asked me if I knew about the MAS plane crash.

When I asked him how he knew where I had been he said "it's on the screen here Sir".

WestCoast1

03-08-14, 17:40

SNIP.

Your record is more important than your passport as AV said in an earlier post. A deportation order is more than a stamp in your passport and it doesn't expire just because you get a new passport.

I came through NAIA today and the Immigration officer knew I had been in Malaysia because he asked me if I knew about the MAS plane crash.

When I asked him how he knew where I had been he said "it's on the screen here Sir".About 70 countries now use biometric chips (see Wiki). The amount and kinds of information stored in the PP can vary from country to country. In addition I'm acutely aware of additional database (s) of information available to Immigration officers. I came back into the US once from Mexico on foot in the early AM. There were no lines and several stations to choose from. When I presented my PP to the lady officer she swiped, asked the usual questions (anything to declare? Reason for your trip to mexico?) , then shocked me with: "Ah! You're a Xxxxxxx. Me too!" (my college mascot). You know what school I attended? It shows up on your screen?"Not the original screen. While I was asking you questions I was looking up other information about you. You also attended XYZ State University." We got into a brief congenial discussion of our alma mater and her ability to find out many other aspects of my life. I asked to see her screen but she would not show it to me. I headed to the parking lot feeling a bit naked.

Slippery

03-09-14, 01:55

Thank you NSA. But they'll destroy all of that information after laws are passed requiring them to. Yeah right.

Member #4387

03-09-14, 03:31

Thank you NSA. But they'll destroy all of that information after laws are passed requiring them to. Yeah right.Hehe well I believe if required all information of my person is stored somewhere even if it is supposed to be deleted. Atleast US immigration in Houston stopped me and asked what I did in Colombia a few years back, 2012 i believe(as I flew out on an Avianca flight from Los Angeles to Bogota a few years earlier). So they have pretty much your travel history stored to some extend and in my case asking question is probably just to see if you are a trustable person or not when entering the country. Surprisingly the officer asked why I did go to Thailand so much as well(I had to return his question as in "have you ever been there and have you looked at them ladies?") Luckely he was a good sport and laughed. But I enjoy strict security atleast when flying, without elaborating reasons from why Malaysian MH370 crashed last night, but something has gone wildly wrong with two people on stolen passports aboard the plane. Regarding this matter I believe phils is one of the less focused country regarding pure security questions and screening (last time I left, two weeks ago, I forgot to put my mobile in the box, went through and the metal detector correctly beeped, but the guy did not give a shit and waved me by) and I depart many times by plane feeling not totaly safe (as in my case my mobile could have entertained a few grams of C4 and enough to create a great hole in the planes fuselage).

Member #4387

03-12-14, 12:23

After reviewing the Cebu forum I feel maby here also can be worth putting in an "add" even if I know it is not correct. This post is also posted in the Cebu part of ISG (general reports).

Operating a bit under false flag I have allways told I am uninterested in travelling Philippines except from Makati. Even so I have been looking at the J. Ave nightclub down in Cebu and some of them girls are stunning.

For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own pages and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. Any info of the Basement Megaclub in Mango sq as well? Beside J. Ave girls I will also meet normal datingsites girls I have worked for a couple of weeks as I hear that is by far the best bet down in Cebu and not unlike how I operate in Makati (but in Makati area I have start to learn also the more hi so nightlife around there but I can not expect that in Cebu beeing a firsttimer here). Girlie bars etc are not on my interest list, streetwalkers the same but any info on other freelance hangouts are highly appreciated (but I try to read various threads down in the Cebu part of this forum so maby it will come to me eventually)

I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.

I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel (looked ok as I found maby Shangri La Mactan a bit far offish) as my base of operations. And for datingsitegirls they have to come to my location as I never travel around to meet these contacts (they get rewarded for their effort anyway). I will look up more information of the Marriots surroundings later (if chances to pull from a shopping mall located close by will be possible as I find mall pick ups fun at times).

I don't want to mention any of the J. Ave girls by name (atleast name they operate under in various sources of online establishments. This not to offend anyone maby thinking they are in committed relationships to them.

But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again).

Econo Tech

03-12-14, 14:48

Wicked Roger

03-12-14, 14:52

After reviewing the Cebu forum I feel maby here also can be worth putting in an "add" even if I know it is not correct.

For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own pages and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.

I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again).Skogis,

Good to see you finally think there is life outside Makati LOL.

PM is best but some of those stunners are stunners because they are transgender, LBs etc so be careful what you wish for. I know some of their friends and they tell the guys have no idea that they shag the stunner who used to be a male!

Also many prefer Koreans for the usual reasons and can be high priced.

PM if you like.

Hutsori

03-13-14, 07:18

A question to the seniors here.

What's the legal high I can get from pharmacy?

I mean any substitute for Viagra or C minus prescription. That can be bought from a pharmacy.

Going to have a hectic three days in Makati next week.

Thanks for any pointers.There are two widely-found chemist chain stores in metro Manila, Mercury Drug and Generics. Mercury will ask for a scrip but this can be socially engineered by you telling the clerk you left it at your room or by producing the empty drug packaging / box; if they won't sell walk to the next one. In my experience with Generics they don't ask for a scrip. The drug you're looking for is sildenafil citrate. Mercury sells a generic made by RiteMed; a box of 5 100mg tablets is approx p700. They also sell a branded sildenafil citrate called Andros for approx p2500 for 5 100mg tablets. Generics sells a 50mg tablet called Tigerfil for p50-60 each.

Econo Tech

03-13-14, 08:05

There are two widely-found chemist chain stores in metro Manila, Mercury Drug and Generics. Mercury will ask for a scrip but this can be socially engineered by you telling the clerk you left it at your room or by producing the empty drug packaging / box; if they won't sell walk to the next one. In my experience with Generics they don't ask for a scrip. The drug you're looking for is sildenafil citrate. Mercury sells a generic made by RiteMed; a box of 5 100mg tablets is approx p700. They also sell a branded sildenafil citrate called Andros for approx p2500 for 5 100mg tablets. Generics sells a 50mg tablet called Tigerfil for p50-60 each.Noted. Thanks for the info.

Will troll Generics.

Appreciate your advice.

If I ask my medical 'relative' here for an Rx all hell may break loose.

Gangles

03-13-14, 16:46

About 5 years ago, I struck up a communication with a woman in Cherry Blossoms.

She is a maid, working for an upper middle class family. So the only way that we could spend time together was in afternoons. I would stay in a nearby hotel, and she would stop in for a couple of hours each afternoon. Not the ideal situation, but when I first saw her, I was knocked over. Tall, very slim, good looking, reasonable pretty face.

I thought she was not the smartest tool in the shed, but I came to realize that she took a while to understand what I was saying in English.

About a year ago, she sent an email asking for money.

What for?

I need to pay a worker to cut back weeds in my tree plantation. Bugger me. She has 2,000 trees, furniture grade timber. This is a long-term thinking woman, as the trees take at least 10 years to reach harvestable size and maturity. So I suggested that she spray with herbicide Round-Up. That is what she did.

Then 6 months ago, she asked for money.

What for?

A powered water pump for her rice farm. Bugger me, more production, more income. Wow, no chicken shit here.

She is with me now, and we head off to her farm tomorrow.

Then she mentioned that her brother is a semi professional panning for gold. Pulls about 10 grams per week, but sometimes that amount in a day. About 1500 pesos per gram. Not bad money.

Then she mentions that she has a kind of business buying clothing locally at discount prices, shipping it to her mama in the province, who sells at about 100% markup.

At my stage in life, I am happy for one pop per day. But she expects more, not in a pushy way, she just likes more. I don't know how she does it, but she manages to pull two or three per day. I am gobsmacked. Nothing special, she just does it somehow.

So for all of the punters in ISG land who regale pinays as being lazy, good for nothings, this is more like the real pinay. Smart, hard working, forward thinking.

G

Socker

03-13-14, 19:09

I thought she was not the smartest tool in the shed, but I came to realize that she took a while to understand what I was saying in English.

GSharpest tool bro.

And they do like to fuck.

The PI is the perfect place to monger, except for the heat and the culture.

WestCoast1

03-14-14, 01:36

G: Great report! Nice catch.

Wicked Roger

03-15-14, 01:26

From the Manila Bulletin. RK did make some sensible points a while about the general matter but this is getting silly. Can you imagine western countries asking it citizens to show proof of financial capability before leaving the country. The comments at the bottom of the article show what many think and claim it is another way to increase corruption in the BI.

What it does mean is that we will need to prepare affidavits as the 'sponsor', so the legal profession gains again.

http://www.mb.com.ph/bi-requires-all-tourists-proof-of-financial-capability-to-travel/

Red Kilt

03-15-14, 12:28

Dg8787

03-15-14, 12:49

Econo Tech

03-15-14, 13:32

Check this out.

Not too surprising given that there are literally thousands of undocumented Filipino workers overseas who demand their Government rescues them when things go belly-up for them in the host country.

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/bi-requires-tourists-proof-financial-capability-travel-140738101.html

However, there are further contradictory reports in other news outlets.

Viz.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/03/15/14/no-need-prove-financial-capacity-when-traveling-abroad-bi-says

http://www.rappler.com/nation/53073-immigration-financial-capability-travelMore than the victims like. War in Lebanon. It is the Senator and Congress men who demand assistance. So their NGOs can have more money funneled in.

And what rescue? When the Syria trouble started those who weren't registered with POEA, POLO, OWWA, ABC, DEF etc etc were sent bills for te cost of repatriation.

Only in the Philippines.

The point why many travel as tourist to get job is simple. There aren't many jobs here and those who take the legal route normally loose up to 6 months salary to cover govt endorsed robbery. I. E POEA. And those related robbery acts.

That would never get fixed lest a few thousand govt servants will become redundant. If they do like most other labor exporting countries. Just protect maids and low level workers. If an educated it guy manages to land himself in trouble. Too bad.

That is how it should be. Instead of forcing nurses going to Libya to undergo compulsory 1 day Arabic courses, then orient doctors going to Singapore being taught about Singapore by a guy who has never been to Singapore. And additional of above costs to the candidate.

Econo Tech

03-15-14, 17:07

Can you imagine western countries asking it citizens to show proof of financial capability before leaving the country.Western countries ask Asia passport holders to show proof of finances. I know what you mean though.

If a person gets denied entry into say Singapore that's still not Philippines BI's problem.

What's amazing is 9 out of 10 Filipinos agree BI is doing the right thing and say what is wrong in producing the required document.

And the above group's only grouse is when BI offload those with proper document. Never realizing the whole BI demands are violation of basic right for any citizen to travel. No wonder this country can vote in Marcos family and go on to suggest Ferdinand did a great job in running the country.

Gave up on Philippines a while ago.

Gangles

03-18-14, 00:21

Miss Skinny Minnie and I had boarded a flight to Butuan.

Everybody is aboard, and the door almost closed.

Suddenly, a somewhat flustered little pinay in uniform appeared next to me, talking rapidly in Filipino. My gf calmed her down a bit.

Sir, do you own a large red suitcase?

Yes.

Sir, it is buzzing. You must stop it.

What could it be?

Gf: a cell phone.

Me: no, maybe an alarm clock.

Sir, come with me.

So we go outside, and there is my suitcase, sitting forlornly under the wing, with a bunch of ground crew looking on.

So I open the suitcase.

Me: where does the buzzing noise come from (hard of hearing)

She: there sir.

I immediately know what it is.

Reach under a pile of stuff, locate the plastic bag full of toys, reach in to locate the medium large purple vibrator which is operated by a push button in the end of it.

Manage to press the button 3 times without exposing it to view.

Buzzing stops. I put the stuff back in, lock the case. Problem solved.

Now, let's get this flight under way.

G

Hutsori

03-18-14, 02:55

I immediately know what it is.LOL. Great story.

Member #4351

03-18-14, 13:39

Yes, its always a good idea to take the batteries out when packing toys.

X Man

03-18-14, 14:21

I'm guessing that if some of your fellow passengers knew the whole story, they wouldn't find it amusing. At least not at that moment. Anyway, I guess you gave them something to talk about.

Your gal must have been mortified. When did you tell her the cause of the noise? LOL.

(crackle, crackle) This is the pilot speaking. We're sorry for the small delay. It seems Mr. G sitting in seat 32a had a toy in his suitcase which was vibrating. We're sorry for the delay.

X.

Miss Skinny Minnie and I had boarded a flight to Butuan.

Everybody is aboard, and the door almost closed.

SNIP.

G

Gangles

03-21-14, 16:51

another context.

i am keeping a record of the number of women who i have sexed through my life without a condom, with no recorded std.

miss 438 had had a more than memorable coupling event over 5 days in phils and cambodia. she learned multiple orgasms, continuous orgasms, and g-spot orgasms.

on her first g spot orgasm, out came the waterfall. a real squirter. that was not enough to stop us in our pursuits, so by the time that we had finished that about, the bed was sopping wet.

once she had learned how to do it, there were several folllowing episodes. and she also learned the finer sensory enhancements of anal and butt plugs.

anyhow, a couple of days after our parting, she texted to say that she is almost crippled, and she has an std. my advice was to see an ob / gyn urgently to confirm or otherwise that she did actually have an std. for two reasons. firstly that she was asking for a considerable contribution to the costs of her medication, and secondly, that there were other partners who would / could be affected.

monday, i asked the result. she waffled on that the ob / gyn had confirmed an std, but was unable to identify which one. i thought. there goes my record out the window.

so i asked a number of pertinent questions, and she could not answer. eventually she said. let us forget all of this. so i figured that it was a scam.

still, it left a lingering doubt in my mind.

then, when entering the secret vessel of miss 440, a sharp pain on the exterior of my old boy. bugger.

when i had a look, there was definitely something there, but i could not determine if it was a blister or a lesion.

so today, off to see a urologist to confirm. he was not interested in my std, but was more interested in my history of matters prostate, and my laser prostatectomy.

he prescribed a wide range of tests, including blood tests, [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) test, and an ultrasound of my bladder, kidneys and prostate.

when this lot was done, and i looked over the results, there was nothing about std, and lots of info about other stuff. looks like my plumbing is really buggered up.

when i reminded him about the std, he said, drop your daks, and let's take a look.

well, he had an expression on his face. have you been engaging in oral intercourse, he said with a laugh.

i thought back to miss 439, and her energetic oral ministrations. and there had been some uncomfortable impacts from sharp teeth.

by this time, he was laughing his head off. we both were. she had unwittingly cut a small lesion into the skin of my old boy, and that was what was causing the pain.

his recommendation. wash frequently, and no friction. no friction = no sex. i looked at him, and he at me. no way. i was here in phils on a mission, and this was not going to deter me.

as an aside, he said that the best way to keep your prostate healthy was to ejaculate every day. sex or masturbation. keep the semen flowing through it.

at the least. 2 or 3 times a week.

so, another successful day in paradise, and my record is intact.

g

Wicked Roger

03-22-14, 08:14

As an aside, he said that the best way to keep your prostate healthy was to ejaculate every day. Sex or masturbation. Keep the semen flowing through it.

At the least. 2 or 3 times a week.

GAt least in this country that is possible for most of us Gangles so no need to worry about the prostate then (ie being a monger is good for the health LOL)

Good to hear you are still healthy and shagging as well dealing with the dramas of shagging pinays.

Asian Geek

03-22-14, 18:57

Socker. Loved this photo of your girl. I would be looking for one similar to this one this week.

AG.

No doubt there's some scary pinay pussy but to find a pretty one w / a soft Bush on top is a delicacy. I know you're a pussy barber and so be it. I like your style anyway.

Kudos on your pics these days. Got to get a collar but in Colombia they'd put it on me, better not bring it there.

Here's a pretty little Bush that I don't remember except for the pic.

It just looks so GOOD!

Red Kilt

03-23-14, 04:29

Another context.

I am keeping a record of the number of women who I have sexed through my life without a condom, with no recorded STD.As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.

Wander Luster

03-23-14, 05:49

What a great post. I get so sick of reading the same stereotype post of woman in the PH! I've lived and WORKDED (my small biz) there cumulative of 3 years. I think a lot of guys there from the West are skewing the fact about everyone being lazy. That's BS. They're mixing in the wrong circles / places.

If I have one gripe about the women, it's that they don't care about being educated or continuing to learn about the world. Especially bad luck for me in cebu. BUT I get the impression the vast majority in Cebu don't care about this. I do, and it's a challenge in any third world country.

Cheers,

Wander Luster.

About 5 years ago, I struck up a communication with a woman in Cherry Blossoms.

She is a maid, working for an upper middle class family. So the only way that we could spend time together was in afternoons. I would stay in a nearby hotel, and she would stop in for a couple of hours each afternoon. Not the ideal situation, but when I first saw her, I was knocked over. Tall, very slim, good looking, reasonable pretty face.

I thought she was not the smartest tool in the shed, but I came to realize that she took a while to understand what I was saying in English.

About a year ago, she sent an email asking for money.

What for?

I need to pay a worker to cut back weeds in my tree plantation. Bugger me. She has 2, 000 trees, furniture grade timber. This is a long-term thinking woman, as the trees take at least 10 years to reach harvestable size and maturity. So I suggested that she spray with herbicide Round-Up. That is what she did.

Then 6 months ago, she asked for money.

What for?

A powered water pump for her rice farm. Bugger me, more production, more income. Wow, no chicken shit here.

She is with me now, and we head off to her farm tomorrow.

Then she mentioned that her brother is a semi professional panning for gold. Pulls about 10 grams per week, but sometimes that amount in a day. About 1500 pesos per gram. Not bad money.

Then she mentions that she has a kind of business buying clothing locally at discount prices, shipping it to her mama in the province, who sells at about 100% markup.

At my stage in life, I am happy for one pop per day. But she expects more, not in a pushy way, she just likes more. I don't know how she does it, but she manages to pull two or three per day. I am gobsmacked. Nothing special, she just does it somehow.

So for all of the punters in ISG land who regale pinays as being lazy, good for nothings, this is more like the real pinay. Smart, hard working, forward thinking.

G

Wander Luster

03-23-14, 05:52

Stogis,

I don't know why people recomend Mactan. I had a company in Cebu when I was in my 30s. Matan is not where it's at! Stay in Cebu City. Marriot is good!

WL.

After reviewing the Cebu forum I feel maby here also can be worth putting in an "add" even if I know it is not correct. This post is also posted in the Cebu part of ISG (general reports).

Operating a bit under false flag I have allways told I am uninterested in travelling Philippines except from Makati. Even so I have been looking at the J. Ave nightclub down in Cebu and some of them girls are stunning.

For the J. Ave Superclub girls many of them are pictured in the nightclubs own pages and I have did some detective work and found many of them in various datingsites. Any info of the Basement Megaclub in Mango sq as well? Beside J. Ave girls I will also meet normal datingsites girls I have worked for a couple of weeks as I hear that is by far the best bet down in Cebu and not unlike how I operate in Makati (but in Makati area I have start to learn also the more hi so nightlife around there but I can not expect that in Cebu beeing a firsttimer here). Girlie bars etc are not on my interest list, streetwalkers the same but any info on other freelance hangouts are highly appreciated (but I try to read various threads down in the Cebu part of this forum so maby it will come to me eventually)

I guess J. Ave is a big club and most of the girls here consider themself beeing freelancing a hi so venue, am I right? I see some of them girls run into "in a relationship" and "out of relationship" every other day so they must be pretty busy, hehe.

I have not realy had time to browse through Cebu forum so I will not ask to many stupid question and find out later what maby did go wrong if anything. I chose Marriot hotel (looked ok as I found maby Shangri La Mactan a bit far offish) as my base of operations. And for datingsitegirls they have to come to my location as I never travel around to meet these contacts (they get rewarded for their effort anyway). I will look up more information of the Marriots surroundings later (if chances to pull from a shopping mall located close by will be possible as I find mall pick ups fun at times).

I don't want to mention any of the J. Ave girls by name (atleast name they operate under in various sources of online establishments. This not to offend anyone maby thinking they are in committed relationships to them.

But if any of you gents feel free to run in some advices it is highly appreciate (I am not tight in the cash department but if I can I will not try to spoil ladies and ruin the market, not that one bloke can do that, but you know it is debated big time over and over again).

Mr Hawaii

03-23-14, 11:48

Be prepared. The food at Max's Fried Chicken was the culprit. I suspect it was the macaroni salad. Glad I already had someone with me, cause I could not leave my room. Explosive diarrhea and vomiting! The girl went to the store to buy me what they use locally for diarrhea. So. Be prepared for anything. I had food poisoning and FruitNinja was being attacked by a dog!

FreebieFan

03-24-14, 02:34

As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.Like Like Like

Mr Hawaii

03-24-14, 06:00

Yeah, I know, sometimes you get tired of fucking all day and all night. One of my girls had an apartment directly across the street from the mall of Asia (MOA) ; the apartments that are framed in blue, and are within walking distance to the mall. It was a nice little compact studio. Now the roles were reversed. The security there wanted my identification and I had to sign in as a visitor. Anyway, movies are about 220pesos in MOA. Theatres in Robinson's Ermita are really nice also. After one of the movies at MOA we walked past a salon and I figured what the hell. 250pesos for my facial and 350pesos for her facial. Keep them happy.

Red Kilt

03-24-14, 06:31

Like Like LikeFF clear your mailbox.

It is full. Cannot PM you.

FruitNinja

03-24-14, 09:02

be prepared. the food at max's fried chicken was the culprit. i suspect it was the macaroni salad. glad i already had someone with me, cause i could not leave my room. explosive diarrhea and vomiting! the girl went to the store to buy me what they use locally for diarrhea. so. be prepared for anything. i had food poisoning and fruitninja was being attacked by a dog!but like the true roman legionnaires we are it didn't stop us. a speed bump. i'm in my hotel room recuperating from a major bender. had a beautiful vietnamese cutie with me all night but was so drunk and hangover this morning that my performance was sad. this is worst than a dog bite. alas i have her number and will try again after i am back from the dead.

greetings from hcmc. let's do manila again.

Gangles

03-24-14, 16:36

Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no political motive. It is rarely that the ordinary punter can get hard, unadulterated data. I am certainly not trying to convince anyone to change their current behaviour.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.

I sex with the occasional P4P, but rarely. Almost all are women who are potential permanent partners. Which is what I am looking for.

If you look carefully at the photos posted in the PG, you will see that many of the posters are like me, barebackers.

As for your comment that you have known a number of women who have had their uterus removed due to STD. I do not know of any woman who has done this. I had never heard of this situation before. It seems horrible for me, and I will try to follow through to identify which form od STD could lead to this intervention.

For your consideration.

G

As a well-educated guy Gangles, I still don't understand your real motives for persisting with your missionary zeal to convince everyone that condoms are unnecessary.

We all know that you have super-human resistance to STDs; you forgot to remind us that you also have had a vasectomy. Not everybody has your resistance, and many guys who are either irresponsible or don't care are still spraying live semen into unwitting girls, no doubt knocking them up and not knowing or caring about it.

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors. I personally had an STD some 14 years ago, and there is no way I want to repeat that experience. It's condoms for me. Always.

By all means you should go ahead and keep mongering without a condom but don't keep proselytizing to everyone else that they should try it too, particularly those guys who are NOT vasectomised.

Apart from anything else, an intact condom prevents pregnancy. Nobody should try to claim otherwise.

KongKing

03-25-14, 04:22

[Snips]All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.In an earlier posting [14 July 2013] you said this.

There are 2 forms of STI. Those that are bacterian and those that are viral.

You can protect yourself from the bacterial forms (including chlamydia, syphilis, gonorrhea) by taking a combination of doxycyclin, and amoxycillin. I now take these when I am mongering.

Among the viral forms, you can be vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B. I have now had this done.

This combination greatly reduces the risk of contracting STI by barebacking.Surely Gangles your facts and figures, STD levels, and truth, may be masked by the fact that you take preventive STD treatments while mongering even if you don't use condoms? You may have negligible STD levels but what would it be without your antibiotic dosing?

KongKing

Gangles

03-25-14, 08:52

Agreed. But this is just one more variable in the statistical analysis.

The biggest statistical analysis that I have done had maybe 10,000 variables. This can be done.

But anybody can take the antibiotics. And I assume that those who know about this will take them, it is so easy.

I ask my doc about this, and he says that the medical profession does not want to recommend or prescribe antibiotics because it may lead to progressive loss of effectiveness as organisms evolve to survive against antibiotics.

So it is deliberately kept from the punter.

And that becomes a part of the statistical analysis too. Another variable.

For your consideration.

G

In an earlier posting [14 July 2013] you said this.

Surely Gangles your facts and figures, STD levels, and truth, may be masked by the fact that you take preventive STD treatments while mongering even if you don't use condoms? You may have negligible STD levels but what would it be without your antibiotic dosing?

KongKing

Mogwai

03-25-14, 09:52

Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.I'm with Gangles here. I'm also one of those guys that seems to have "super-human resistance to STD" but is really just an ordinary guy. However unlike Gangles I'm not taking any preventive treatments. I'm only vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B (for life). Furthermore I must add that I'm circumcised which has the advantage that I'm less vulnerable to STDs than non-circumcised guys.

Since 2007 I hardly ever use condoms anymore, neither in my home country nor in SE Asia. I have barebacked hundreds of girls (sorry Gangles, I have not counted them) and so far I have only contracted a chlamydia / gonorrhea infection twice. I went to the drug store immediately to buy anti-biotics and a few days later the problem was solved already so it didn't bother me much.

The point is: why should I stop barebacking if I hardly ever catch an STD? And why should I stop barebacking if I hardly encounter any girls that have an STD? (although I'm aware of incubation times and the fact that not all STDs are visible). There are thousands, maybe even tens of thousands, of guys out there in SE Asia barebacking every day. If STDs were really such a big problem as governments and NGOs would like us to believe then all of these guys should catch an STD on a very regular basis. And they would stop barebacking (well, at least 99. 9% of them I suppose) because having an STD all the time is no fun, even when it's "only" the clap.

I get the impression that some people on this forum think that barebackers are reckless and irresponsible guys that catch STDs all the time but don't give a shit. They don't get any treatment and just carry on barebacking and spreading the STDs. I think this is not true. I think the majority of the barebackers are just ordinary guys who hardly ever catch an STD and when they do they get proper treatment and refrain from fucking (or at least barebacking) for a while.

Member #4387

03-25-14, 17:21

I am don't think I am immune to STD's but since a norwegian UNI girl gave me chlamydia in the early 90'ies I have not had any infections whatsoever. On two occations I have suspected a STD and then I have done the selfmedication on one occation in Manila (zitromax). The other one just vanished as soon as it arrived. Since I am mostly barebacking I check myself on a very regular basis (as not to infect my gf and to stay healthy). No problem so far. If I needed the zitromax or not I don't know as it also vanished quickly. Yes I think I have been lucky but I am known not to choose maby the most hardend girls as I deal with:

1. Regular girls (cheating my gf and these girls are not having many guys if anyone beside me)

2. Datingsitegirls (they cover probably all aspects of girls from p4p girls to girls from province never met a foreign guy before, I think most of them would be something in the middle)

3. Freelancegirls (met in accordingly venues but still from here I tend to get the not so proffesional ones, why this I don't know, it just happens)

What they all have in common are they most likely don't fuck many times a day, maby not even ones a week. Anyway I have not got any STD and that is good enough answer to me that I am rather good in choosing girls with clean pussies.

When I dive in unknown girls anal and pick from MBC or Bangkoks Biergarden I use rubber.

But ofcourse I am aware of the safest thing to do is covering up, I just hate it.

Socker

03-25-14, 18:17

Hello,

In my posts on this matter, I am not suggesting that the punters should do as I do.

But what does get up my nose is that governments misrepresent the facts about STDs, and deliberately create misinformation for various reasons.

If you look for hard information about frequency rates of STD in various countries, it is very hard to find. All that you get is a bunch of fluff. Numbers are deliberately distorted for various political objectives. Much of my post grad study was around applied statistics, so I have a bit of a bent in that direction.

So what I am doing is to present some hard fact. When was the last time that you ever got this kind of hard, unadulterated fact? Bare numbers? Probably never.

My posts have nothing to do with pregnancy rates. All that I ever talk about is STD.

For me, nirvana would be for hundreds, or thousands of guys to post their own numbers. Then we could start to do some serious statistical analysis, and begin to challenge the truthfulness of government published numbers.

I have no political motive. It is rarely that the ordinary punter can get hard, unadulterated data. I am certainly not trying to convince anyone to change their current behaviour.

I have no philosophical motive. I have no ideological motive. My motive is truth.

I do not believe that I have any super-human resistance to STD. I think that I am just an ordinary guy.

I sex with the occasional P4P, but rarely. Almost all are women who are potential permanent partners. Which is what I am looking for.

If you look carefully at the photos posted in the PG, you will see that many of the posters are like me, barebackers.

As for your comment that you have known a number of women who have had their uterus removed due to STD. I do not know of any woman who has done this. I had never heard of this situation before. It seems horrible for me, and I will try to follow through to identify which form od STD could lead to this intervention.

For your consideration.

GI THINK NOTTT!

When I saw your first post about bbing 300 (?) or whatever number w / out a single STD I thought,"Man this guy doesn't get it". The reason the pussy market is clean is because of fear and the unknown. When you have guys (here / you) on the "top of the mountain" screaming I can do it 300 times and I have no problem w / STDs. What in the world do you think that statement says?

With my high school education I will tell you.

It is a green light for every monger from India, Pakistan, Russia, America, etc to come to the PI and shove their bare dicks in the pussy you have been safely enjoying. The more you spout off about how safe bbing is, the more likely you (OR ME) is going to get unlucky w / some Pakistani Gonorrhea or Korean STD, etc.

This is an international sport, all the wicks are in play but many wicks are covered out of FEAR! This conversation will encourage more to leave the cover off. This info you provide will not help anyone who wants a trouble free vacation. The more bragging about bbing the more likely misery will come our way.

How can you not get this? How??

When I first saw your original post I responded but then changed my mind thinking I don't want to make this a bigger issue but now I see many more singing the praises of barebacking and it's fucking stupid.

Just shut up about it and enjoy what you have. This is what the PM function is for, to exchange sensitive info between friends. Pakistani Gonorrhea is not yours or my friend.

Some THINGS need not be said to the whole fucking world.

LET'S JUST SHUT UP NOW!

Hutsori

03-25-14, 20:37

But anybody can take the antibiotics. And I assume that those who know about this will take them, it is so easy.

I ask my doc about this, and he says that the medical profession does not want to recommend or prescribe antibiotics because it may lead to progressive loss of effectiveness as organisms evolve to survive against antibiotics.God, I hate to bite, but I shall. I've been barebacking for over 25 years, since I was 13. One incident of crabs from a Korean girl years ago, which a condom would not have prevented, and a dose of clap here (no discharge and little irritation [CodeWord112] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord112)), which I reported about on this forum many moons ago. I've never pursued a preventative course of antibiotic meds because the medical professionals are right. Anyway, since the clap is up to 80% non-symptomatic for girls, I know that coming soon enough will be an evolution of super clap, and it'll hit this place hard. During this go of nearly 18 months I've been hit by more flus than ever, and doctors here often prescribe antibiotics, which have no effect whatsoever against a virus other than to further improve the resistance of bacteria. A recipe for disaster.

Though a stupid guy I offer this recommendation: Take care. Socker is completely correct.

Slippery

03-26-14, 02:11

Hutsori

03-26-14, 02:24

My American friend of 50 years from the same small city as me has overstayed his visa. Fortunately the dumb ass extended his ticket and he's due to leave a week from tomorrow. He paid for the day visa extension in USA but will be overstaying for 29-30 days depending on how one calculates. In any event, he's broke, sleeping in my guest room and needs my help to get properly processed out by Immigration. I know the ACR fee and other attendant fees have to be paid and I'm going to have to front that money. What kind of penalty must be paid?Http://immigration.gov.ph/index.php/visa-requirements/non-immigrant-visa/temporary-visitor-visa/extension-of-authorized-stay-beyond-59-days

Fine for Overstaying – (additional) Php 500. 00 per month.

Motion for Reconsideration for Overstaying – (additional) Php 500. 00

I recommend taking care of this at an immigration office rather than the airport.

FreebieFan

03-26-14, 02:28

I'm only vaccinated against Hepatitis A and B (for life). w.I thought I was vaccinated against B for life, but recently went and had a check. They run a test to determine strength of the original and that 10 years after the initial series of shots, that I needed a set of booster shots to increase immunity levels to full strength. Seems from the comments in the attached quote this is quite common. Life inst always for life.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060726101958AApCAWv

Dg8787

03-26-14, 03:52

I thought I was vaccinated against B for life, but recently went and had a check. They run a test to determine strength of the original and that 10 years after the initial series of shots, that I needed a set of booster shots to increase immunity levels to full strength. Seems from the comments in the attached quote this is quite common. Life inst always for life.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060726101958AApCAWvI always thought too that the vaccine was good for life. Good to know to test for booster shot. A few months ago after I got back from a trip, I was chatting with a girl whom I have spent 3 nights with. She had been pretty sick and finally went to see the doctor. I thought she have serious case of the flu. Came back she had Hep B. Scared the crap out of me. Then I remembered I had the vaccine shots 6 years ago. So I will get tested to determine the strength of the original series. Researching online Hep B is pretty common and contagious in Philippines.

Mogwai

03-26-14, 09:16

I THINK NOTTT!

When I saw your first post about bbing 300 (?) or whatever number w / out a single STD I thought,"Man this guy doesn't get it". The reason the pussy market is clean is because of fear and the unknown. When you have guys (here / you) on the "top of the mountain" screaming I can do it 300 times and I have no problem w / STDs. What in the world do you think that statement says?

With my high school education I will tell you.

It is a green light for every monger from India, Pakistan, Russia, America, etc to come to the PI and shove their bare dicks in the pussy you have been safely enjoying...To be honest I think you are a little bit naive here. Many mongers from India, Pakistan, Russia, America, etc are barebacking Filipinas for many years already. Simply because it has never been a secret that most Filipinas don't mind.

Socker

03-26-14, 18:24

To be honest I think you are a little bit naive here. Many mongers from India, Pakistan, Russia, America, etc are barebacking Filipinas for many years already. Simply because it has never been a secret that most Filipinas don't mind.Lots of guys do it and lots of guys are afraid / cautious to do it.

My post says lets leave the status quo as it is, shut up.

If all the guys that bb bragged about it and how safe it is to do.

Then a lot of the guys who cover up (now) would stop using condoms.

This is my logic after a fair amount of living. What does your logic tell you?

I'm naive?

Sam 14

03-26-14, 19:29

I personally know several girls who have had their uteruses removed because of particularly nasty STDS contracted from bare-back warriors.That's really sad man. Allot of times that kind of thing starts with the HPV. I don't recall the numbers without looking it up, but a large percentage of females will get it at some point in their life. It don't even have to be from sex. It terrifies the girl at the thought of a pre-cancer growing. In the States the first step is just watch and wait. Get a pap every 6 months. My chick had it once but she just went on a pretty heavy antioxidant program. It went away fast and never came back. But of course that kind of thing is not available to the average Pinay in a country where no one has ever heard of quercetin, and a single vitamin C tablet is 6 pesos. Same goes for protecting ones self from the start, the stronger your immune system is to begin with, the more likely you can be exposed but never contract. Just like everyone at work may get the flu except you if you're more healthy.

Red Kilt

03-27-14, 01:47

<< SNIP During this go of nearly 18 months I've been hit by more flus than ever, and doctors here often prescribe antibiotics, which have no effect whatsoever against a virus other than to further improve the resistance of bacteria. A recipe for disaster. << SNIP >>Just to reinforce what Hutsori says from today's news items:

http://theconversation.com/infection-control-why-doctors-over-prescribe-antibiotics-24785?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+27+March+2014&utm_content=Latest+from+The+Conversation+for+27+March+2014+CID_8c6f6bf9a8956ef40b9dafd9626a3fd0&utm_source=campaign_monitor&utm_term=Infection%20control%20why%20doctors%20over-prescribe%20antibiotics

Hobbyist2

03-27-14, 02:13

I thought I was vaccinated against B for life, but recently went and had a check. They run a test to determine strength of the original and that 10 years after the initial series of shots, that I needed a set of booster shots to increase immunity levels to full strength. Seems from the comments in the attached quote this is quite common. Life inst always for life.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20060726101958AApCAWvAfter you were vaccinated did you get tested to see if you were immune? Your initial vaccine may not have resulted in you being immune. Many people get vaccinated for Hep B, but don't get tested to see if it resulted in them being immune. When I got vaccinated for Hep B, my employer paid for it and also paid for me to be tested to see if it resulted in me being immune. I also know that it may not last forever even though they say it should.

FreebieFan

03-27-14, 04:42

After you were vaccinated did you get tested to see if you were immune? Your initial vaccine may not have resulted in you being immune. Many people get vaccinated for Hep B, but don't get tested to see if it resulted in them being immune. When I got vaccinated for Hep B, my employer paid for it and also paid for me to be tested to see if it resulted in me being immune. I also know that it may not last forever even though they say it should.One year after the vaccination, in another blood test, it showed up as being present. After that I had no reason to test it again till recently, which was 10 years later. When it basically showed there was reduced immunity.

FreebieFan

03-27-14, 04:48

That's really sad man. Allot of times that kind of thing starts with the HPV. I don't recall the numbers without looking it up, but a large percentage of females will get it at some point in their life. It don't even have to be from sex. It terrifies the girl at the thought of a pre-cancer growing. In the States the first step is just watch and wait. Get a pap every 6 months. My chick had it once but she just went on a pretty heavy antioxidant program. It went away fast and never came back. But of course that kind of thing is not available to the average Pinay in a country where no one has ever heard of quercetin, and a single vitamin C tablet is 6 pesos. Same goes for protecting ones self from the start, the stronger your immune system is to begin with, the more likely you can be exposed but never contract. Just like everyone at work may get the flu except you if you're more healthy.Had a gf who was advised that she was diagnosed with HPV. We did some research and it was a huge figure, something like 30-40% of ladies will have it at some time. There are many strains but only two are pre-cancerous, strains number 16 and 17, or something similar. Seems that millions of us men carry this virus with us, displaying no symptons or anything that relates to it.

Mogwai

03-27-14, 08:42

Lots of guys do it and lots of guys are afraid / cautious to do it.

My post says lets leave the status quo as it is, shut up.

If all the guys that bb bragged about it and how safe it is to do.

Then a lot of the guys who cover up (now) would stop using condoms.

This is my logic after a fair amount of living. What does your logic tell you?

I'm naive?All I was trying to say is that it's not really a secret that many guys are barebacking and that a lot of them never (or hardly ever) catch any STDs. Even if hundreds of guys are going to "brag" here that it's safe to do then this won't change the mind of the guys that use condoms. Simply because they are afraid and really convinced that condoms are a must.

Socker

03-27-14, 18:46

All I was trying to say is that it's not really a secret that many guys are barebacking and that a lot of them never (or hardly ever) catch any STDs. Even if hundreds of guys are going to "brag" here that it's safe to do then this won't change the mind of the guys that use condoms. Simply because they are afraid and really convinced that condoms are a must.Who said anything about secrets? Do you need to twist the dialogue to feel like a winner?

I know you're wrong and one day there will be hell to pay for this kind of casual boasting on sites like ISG. I also know (from your response here) it is especially important TO YOU to spread this great knowledge you have about the safety of bbing. However I think your logic is flawed and you have a flawed view of human nature too.

On this issue 99% of the guys (who do it) know what can happen if a breakout occurs, that's why few boast about their success rates. What's to gain from boasting??? Nothing!

A couple of guys were clueless and maybe now understand there is NOTHING TO GAIN by spouting off your great stats on bbing.

Mogwai, you have gained nothing w / your POV, you only cause more concern. For me this discussion is over.

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.

Strother Martin

Mogwai

03-28-14, 08:31

What we've got here is failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach.Indeed, that's exactly the point.

Wicked Roger

03-29-14, 17:34

GregLondon

04-02-14, 07:42

A British friend of mine is hoping to meet a Filipina chat mate of his in Tokyo where he wil have a business trip later this summer.

Does anyone have experience of getting Filipinas a Japanese tourist visa. The trip will be just 4 days. He does not have time to meet her in Phils first. She doesn't have a passport right now is in early 20s without a real job or degree etc. Therefore the passport will be brand new. He is prepared to put some money in her bank account if necessary. I know the girl in question and believe she can be trusted to refund the money and actually buy the ticket (which I know is the normal problem here!).

So questions are:

1. Does she have to go through an Agency? Anyone got an agency in Cebu they have found good?

2. Does she have a real chance to get a visa?

3. How much will she have to show is in her bank account? Will they be looking for a statement over a period of time. (She just opened the account last week and so far almost nothing in it).

4. Will he have to provide a letter of guarantee etc and if so what format does it have to be notarised?

5. Does she have to book the return air ticket in advance or wait till after she has the visa?

6. How long does visa process take?

7. Does she have to boo accommodation in advance? In reality she will stay in his busienss hotel but I think he wants to keep his business engagements separate.

Thanks in advance fro any information you might have.

Streetlooker

04-02-14, 19:20

My American friend of 50 years from the same small city as me has overstayed his visa. Fortunately the dumb ass extended his ticket and he's due to leave a week from tomorrow. He paid for the day visa extension in USA but will be overstaying for 29-30 days depending on how one calculates. In any event, he's broke, sleeping in my guest room and needs my help to get properly processed out by Immigration. I know the ACR fee and other attendant fees have to be paid and I'm going to have to front that money. What kind of penalty must be paid?Being that I have often questioned my own ability to cope with life's problems and confidence that I am doing things right. Its refreshing to me that people like your friend exist in this world (More then we think) and I can feel pretty good about myself that I would never find myself in this guys situation. Overstaying my visa worry is in my top 2-5 worries when I finally make my move to live in the PHILIPPINES. Trust me I will NOT OVERSTAY or have improper paper work to worry about. Thanks for the boost. Now If I could just get my financial situation stable and I be living in paradise with the hot brown honeys

GoodEnough

04-02-14, 23:57

Interesting piece on unemployment. See the last paragraph for what will likely be the main reasons that a committee will say are the overwhelming causes. Nothing to do with inability to create jobs. Lack of investment etc.

I just found this amusing as I thought I could answer the question on a post, others may have a different view of course.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/03/30/1306690/senators-seek-inquiry-high-unemployment-rateThe definition of unemployment, much like literacy, is stipulated by the government. I believe that here, anyone who might a sold a mango on the street last week is counted as employed. The fact is, no one knows the true unemployment rate here, but with about 1. 9 new citizens being born every year, and maybe a million new job seekers a year, coupled with an economy that cannot begin to create enough jobs, and a third of the population living on less than $2 a day, my guess is that's its way over the 27% figure that "shocked" these senators. It's the same with literacy. The government brags that 97. 5% of the populations is literate. But if literacy is defined more stringently than the ability to write one's name, it's difficult to see how this could be true, given school drop out rates and the wretched quality of education.

GE

Wicked Roger

04-03-14, 01:30

The definition of unemployment, much like literacy, is stipulated by the government. I believe that here, anyone who might a sold a mango on the street last week is counted as employed. The fact is, no one knows the true unemployment rate here, but with about 1. 9 new citizens being born every year, and maybe a million new job seekers a year, coupled with an economy that cannot begin to create enough jobs, and a third of the population living on less than $2 a day, my guess is that's its way over the 27% figure that "shocked" these senators. It's the same with literacy. The government brags that 97. 5% of the populations is literate. But if literacy is defined more stringently than the ability to write one's name, it's difficult to see how this could be true, given school drop out rates and the wretched quality of education.

GEGood points GE and yet the newspapers will boast about the Philippines being the Asian 'tiger' economy as its GDP is showing high growth (someone else commented on his a while back). I think it was RK who did an FR on the population growth outstripping the bare essentials to survive (ie the growth is so great the Philippines has no way to sustain the population) and still the RH bill remains 'stalled'

Shame your comments will not be read by the senators as I was surprised they were shocked (but maybe living in a glass bubble for so long means they can't see reality). What you said are the main issues so why debate it just find ways to create more jobs etc, improve the standards, but then by doing that the indians may get restless?

Cbea20

04-03-14, 01:48

I was recently in an immigration office for a routine renewal. Next to me a man was asking on behalf of a friend what costs the overstaying friend would be assessed. He was getting good and detailed answers. So I suggest that you likewise visit immigration on behalf of your friend. It's no big deal if you have a few thousand pesos for the fees.

My American friend of 50 years from the same small city as me has overstayed his visa. Fortunately the dumb ass extended his ticket and he's due to leave a week from tomorrow. He paid for the day visa extension in USA but will be overstaying for 29-30 days depending on how one calculates. In any event, he's broke, sleeping in my guest room and needs my help to get properly processed out by Immigration. I know the ACR fee and other attendant fees have to be paid and I'm going to have to front that money. What kind of penalty must be paid?

FreebieFan

04-03-14, 02:38

The definition of unemployment, much like literacy, is stipulated by the government. I believe that here, anyone who might a sold a mango on the street last week is counted as employed. The fact is, no one knows the true unemployment rate here, but with about 1. 9 new citizens being born every year, and maybe a million new job seekers a year, coupled with an economy that cannot begin to create enough jobs, and a third of the population living on less than $2 a day, my guess is that's its way over the 27% figure that "shocked" these senators. .

GETotally agree GE. Drive through any barangay anywhere in the country, and the local lads, the ones who should be employed, are there sitting on the street, playing a desultory game of hoops or home made pool. They are bored, listless and totally jobless. The employable girl just hang around the sari sari stores or do endless " housework".

However go through the special economic zones and there are many 1, 000s of filipinos gainfully and fuly employed.

Look in an SM and they are over.employed, meaning they employ twice as many people as required, however the Sy's keep them all on short term contracts to prevent any unions forming, and once these girls finish their 5 month jobs they often take a holiday and are slow to re-enter the work force.

27% seems very low to me given the prevailing environment.

Econo Tech

04-03-14, 06:36

Look in an SM and they are over. Employed, meaning they employ twice as many people as required, however the Sy's keep them all on short term contracts to prevent any unions forming, and once these girls finish their 5 month jobs they often take a holiday and are slow to re-enter the work force.

27% seems very low to me given the prevailing environment.Plus the liberal anti discrimination laws in place ensure job description with minimum height, maximum age etc are allowed. LOL.

Anyone above 35 will find it next to impossible to find a job, unless they are really really qualified, . And forget casual jobs once above 40.

Half the country is unemployed. Says me.

So many unemployed the daily TV shows like showtime, wowowee, Gandang gabi vice have long lines of people waiting to spend a day cheering the silly talk shows. And occasionally get to see senators or congressman there.

The oligarchy running the country will make sure Philippines is like this for the next 100 years. So the rich can thrive.

Poor folks are only allowed to run sari sari shops or coffee machine business, food cart business or load business and nothing more threatening and all is well in the meantime.

PS, last month a guy didn't allow my taxi to leave unless the fellow got booking fee. I gave him 5 peso just to spite him and damn happy he was. A local friend of mine quipped that my 5 peso means in govt statistics the fellow has become employed.

GoodEnough

04-04-14, 01:06

Another reason that businesses avoid issuing anything but short-term contracts is that the labor code here is absurdly restrictive, and any employee who works for the same employer for more than six months is covered by the code. So the propensity for the issuance of short-term contracts isn't solely the fault of the employer. I keep a copy of the labor code in my office. It's about the size of "War and Peace," complicated and, in parts, self-contradictory and highly ambiguous. The rights provided to full-time employees include: vacation and sick leave, maternity and paternity leave, contributions to the national housing fund, social security, health insurance, a 13th month pay, time and a half pay for work on Saturdays, double pay for work on Sundays and holidays, and more that I don't remember. Also, termination of an employee, for any reason becomes extremely difficult and very easy for an employee to challenge. For an employer, just filing all of the endless paperwork that proves compliance-and the paperwork must be filed twice per month-is onerous. Thus the costs of compliance are high. The fact that the government can capriciously declare national holidays whenever the president decides it would be fun to do so also exacerbate the problem.

It's as if, as with so many other aspects of government systems here, the government designed systems to discourage job creation, much like the permitting and tax compliance systems which seem designed to make it as difficult as possible to incorporate businesses. This is not a fun context in which to operate commercial enterprises.

GE

FreebieFan

04-04-14, 01:46

," are. Also, termination of an employee, for any reason becomes extremely difficult and very easy for an employee to challenge. For an employer, just filing all of the endless paperwork that proves compliance-and the paperwork must be filed twice per month-is onerous. It's as if, as with so many other aspects of government systems here, the government designed systems to discourage job creation,

GEThe laws are totally stacked in favour of the employee, simply because each employee has a vote come election time and employers don't. Another new benefit for the employee may be seen in a favourable light by the employee.

An employee has in theory a 3 to 6 month probation. However there are labour bureaus in various cities that will side with the employee, if his probation is terminated. They state " you hired him, hes now yours from the date you hired him, not the date probation ends "

Further, an employee who resigns of his own acord will sign a release stating he has been paid in full, has no further claims against the employer. Etc. However under the labour law he has 4 weeks to go to to Labour to file a case.

A filed case will invariably prompt a resonse from Labour to "settle " the case. So the useless employee who you were so happy to lose, may get 3 months release salary just to settle the case.

A case may drag on for years and years eating up time money and HR resources. My name is still on 3 cases of unfair dismissal, and I stopped working there over 10 years ago.

Wicked Roger

04-04-14, 16:30

The laws are totally stacked in favour of the employee, simply because each employee has a vote come election time and employers don't. Another new benefit for the employee may be seen in a favourable light by the employee.Someone may have reading some of the FRs on this page as this editorial was a good read and yet the senators want an enquiry.

http://www.philstar.com/opinion/2014/04/04/1308624/editorial-lost-jobs

I liked the comment about the country is not attractive for investment. Again someone has been reading ISG given all the comments on that subject also.

OneIpole

04-05-14, 00:39

GoodEnough

04-05-14, 00:53

Yes to most of that but I don't think it is all correct.

I have not paid 13 month and will not do it, I don't think that is a law? Do you have something that says otherwise? I would like to know.

I also don't pay double time on Sunday or have heard of that. Again do you have something that shows it is a law?

I ask this because I want to know, I have never been forced or told I have to do this. It is up to the employer on these two things (I have been told by my accountant). Do you have other info?

100% true about how hard to fire a Filipino, holly shit!It's all in the Labor Code, copies of which are readily available. Everything I said in my post is, in fact, the law.

GoodEnough

04-05-14, 02:28

I recently had to re-register my car for the year, which takes about a week, given my refusal to hang around LTO for an entire day wasting my time. For the second or third consecutive year, it appears that no license plate stickers or windscreen tags are available. Thus, the cops have no way of knowing, short of stopping every car, which are registered and which are not, since there's no visible exterior evidence either way. How, one might ask, is this possible? The answer, I'm told, is that the Government of the Philippines owed so much money to the company printing the stickers and tags, that the company simply refused to print any more until payment was received. This hasn't happened and the government, inept and indifferent to public safety, never bothered to solve the problem, ergo no tags or stickers.

This place has become the avatar of a third-rate banana republic.

GE

Pip Jaeger

04-05-14, 03:10

For the second or third consecutive year, it appears that no license plate stickers or windscreen tags are available. How, one might ask, is this possible? The answer, I'm told, is that the Government of the Philippines owed so much money to the company printing the stickers and tags, that the company simply refused to print any more until payment was received.

GEFunny you should post this now, just last night a girl I date, an accountant, came over and we got to talking about her job. She told me she now has to buy her own pens, pencils and miscellaneous office supplies for work because the supplier hasn't been paid for several months, and they now refuse to provide office supplies until payment is rendered. Care to guess where she works? The Bureau of Finance!

Member #4297

04-05-14, 09:31

Hello fellow mongers.

I wrote many reports in the German partytreffs section and helped many mongers there but never been to Philippines so I am not really proud that my first comment here is a question, I did RTFF but my situation is a bit special and a direct help from Filipino society experts will be very much appreciated .

Basically I am in my 20s and got bored from life in Europe so I decided to use my savings to spend a year in Philippines (Davao city) , unlike most of you I am not rich which means that I won't be able to spend much on girls, during this year I want to depend only on DIA girls and other dating websites girls. Since I am staying a year so time and taking things slowly with girls is not a problem. If I end up with many sex partners / experiences that will be great and if I end up with 1 sweet / suitable girlfriend that will not be bad either.

So how my 1 year experience will most likely be based on your knowledge / experience in the Filipino society? . Are the odds with me or against me to have a good year with girls in Davao?

Any advices will be really appreciated.

Happy mongers everybody and will surly start to report in the forum once I arrived to Davao.

Amavida

04-05-14, 11:00

I did RTFF but..Any advices will be really appreciated.

Happy mongers everybody and will surly start to report in the forum once I arrived to Davao.In my opinion you will be overwhelmed with choice. If you get sick of one night stands & want a gf then just take your time & don't rush. For the girls you are solid gold. They will beguile you every way they can. You're far too young to settle down so keep this in mind & make it clear that is not your agenda. Have a ball, keep good karma.

AV

Amavida

04-05-14, 11:11

This place has become the avatar of a third-rate banana republic.

GEAs a former employer in PI I agree with everything you guys are saying. The day to day frustrations will drive you crazy if you let it get to you. I adopted an attitude of always expecting a cluster f*ck & was rarely wrong. There is a glimmer of hope with the current administration, attacking corruption, legalizing sex education & birth control etc. But I agree, its going to take generations to have any effect. The question is what quality administrations will follow in coming years?

AV

Wicked Roger

04-05-14, 11:26

unlike most of you I am not rich which means that I won't be able to spend much on girls, during this year I want to depend only on DIA girls and other dating websites girls. Since I am staying a year so time and taking things slowly with girls is not a problem. .Many of us are not rich either (except with experience) LOL.

Even with DIA etc girls you need cash they will expect something. Plenty FRs on this in the right tread. So remember that.

Now you are young they may like that and not bother too much but being nice and respectful helps for the future.

Member #4297

04-05-14, 11:52

In my opinion you will be overwhelmed with choice. If you get sick of one night stands & want a gf then just take your time & don't rush. For the girls you are solid gold. They will beguile you every way they can. You're far too young to settle down so keep this in mind & make it clear that is not your agenda. Have a ball, keep good karma.

AVThank you Amavida for your helpful comment, that made me very excited.

Happy mongering everybody

Econo Tech

04-05-14, 12:48

As a former employer in PI I agree with everything you guys are saying. The day to day frustrations will drive you crazy if you let it get to you. I adopted an attitude of always expecting a cluster f*ck & was rarely wrong. There is a glimmer of hope with the current administration, attacking corruption, legalizing sex education & birth control etc. But I agree, its going to take generations to have any effect. The question is what quality administrations will follow in coming years?

AVCurrent government? Mm.

They are also increasing bureaucracy.

Each house has the census sticker. Now managed by few new departments.

Corruption is weeded out only if you are in the opposing camp.

And meanwhile the nations preferred next president, based on many old timers jaded view that Marcos Sr was the best president, Bong Bong has filed for a new law making it illegal for restaurants to refuse serving half cup rice, to stop rice wastage.

The ruling clowns do have their priorities correctly in order.

WhatsUrName

04-05-14, 14:31

It's all in the Labor Code, copies of which are readily available. Everything I said in my post is, in fact, the law.With regard to the Philippine Labor Code, I have noticed in the Philippine newspapers that there are a lot of quarter page ads full of employers making public notice that "So and So" former employee no longer works here at this company. I figured it was likely a CYA type of measure by the former employer in case said former employee was out trying to defraud or steal previous customers. Is this something employers are required to do, or only do if the employee has been stealing or defrauding, or it is simply a generic CYA measure?

Just curious. Thanks.

Amavida

04-05-14, 16:42

They are also increasing bureaucracy.You got that right ET.

I was making a checklist of property purchase / sale out costs the other day. My eyes started spinning after a while. E. G.

1. Broker's Commission (a percentage of the total selling price of your property).

2. Capital Gains Tax (individual). The real property tax rate is 6% of gross selling price, zonal value or fair market value, whichever is higher. If the seller is a corporation, this is referred to as a 'Creditable Withholding Tax'.

3. Real estate taxes :

• Documentary Stamps Tax. The tax rate for a deed of sale is 1. 5% or P15 for every P1, 000 of the selling price, zonal value or fair market value, whichever is higher.

• Transfer Tax. This is a tax imposed on the sale, donation, barter, or any other mode of transferring ownership or title of real property. The computation varies from. 5% to a high of. 75% of zonal value or selling price whichever is higher, depending on the municipality.

• Registration Fee. This is usually 0. 25% of the selling price or fair market value, which ever is higher but may also include other costs in order to arrive at the final Registration Fee amount.

4. Notarial Fee. The Deed of Absolute Sale should be notarized for a fee of about 0. 1% of the selling price.

5. Loan fees. If the buyer takes out a home loan from a bank these are the extra costs tied to a home loan:

• Appraisal fee.

• Handling fee.

• Mortgage redemption insurance.

• Fire Insurance.

6. Something called 'Assurance Tax'.

AV

Econo Tech

04-05-14, 16:56

With regard to the Philippine Labor Code, I have noticed in the Philippine newspapers that there are a lot of quarter page ads full of employers making public notice that "So and So" former employee no longer works here at this company. I figured it was likely a CYA type of measure by the former employer in case said former employee was out trying to defraud or steal previous customers. Is this something employers are required to do, or only do if the employee has been stealing or defrauding, or it is simply a generic CYA measure?

Just curious. Thanks.With no national ID and the so called Privacy activists ensuring no National I'd exist. I am sure the paper notices are for CYA. Just like how they publish all personal details of any foreigners who want to be naturalized and all details of any foreigner applying / renewing work passes.

Due process is what they say in Philippines when publishing newspaper notices.

BTW, re LTO, my friend bought a SUV and six month later no number plate. Just paper. And he says its perfectly legal.

Seems the LTO has a large backlog of number plate deliveries

And adding to bureaucracy. BIR has to authorize receipts for printing. Employment for hundreds of staff, and on and on, they find ways to complicate stuff.

For a foreigner seeing the electricity bill breakdown in Baguio / Beneco I am amazed a simple bill has to have so many sub charges. Scary.

Amavida

04-06-14, 11:42

I have noticed in the Philippine newspapers that there are a lot of quarter page ads full of employers making public notice that "So and So" former employee no longer works here at this company. I figured it was likely a CYA type of measure by the former employer in case said former employee was out trying to defraud or steal previous customers. Is this something employers are required to do, or only do if the employee has been stealing or defrauding, or it is simply a generic CYA measure?Confirmed. As a former employer I had to do this to head off the inevitable ex-employee running around making purchases / deals in my name. Happened to often.

AV

Wicked Roger

04-06-14, 12:45

With no national ID and the so called Privacy activists ensuring no National ID exist. I am sure the paper notices are for CYA.

For a foreigner seeing the electricity bill breakdown in Baguio / Beneco I am amazed a simple bill has to have so many sub charges. Scary.As Amavida said is for protection of employer same thing happens in the Middle East when employees 'abscond' or are terminated.

Bills. Not just Baguio is everywhere I have seen the bills and is just ridiculous and making it simpler would likely mean less jobs for some part of the firm that produces them.

Amavida

04-07-14, 05:42

Hey anyone here had to delete some pics? Obviously some lurker have tipped off a girl even if I have posted brushed pics in this forums photothread. I admit it was maby not good enough from my part. But ofcourse compared to other forums where pics are rare brushed I can say I atleast triedCollege girls / employed & upper class are highly sensitive to what they call 'scandal'. It may not be a contributor who has done this, a lot of Pinoy college guys lurk in these forums. Savy bar girls & semi Pros also lurk here. Try contacting Jackson direct. You can bet the pics are already circulating via text / MMS sadly so the horse has already bolted really. The girl involved has just learned a painful life lesson. With her face blurred only those who know her can still recognise her if that's any consolation.

AV

OneIpole

04-08-14, 02:10

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Gangles

04-09-14, 16:27

Recently, RK posted a number of comments regarding my recent post of statistics of STI vs numbers of my sexual partners, without a condom.

His comments are valid within an assumed context. So I think that his comments warrant a response.

I am a hard nosed physical scientist with extensive background in applied statistics.

My motivation in posting my statistics of unprotected sex vs incidents of STI arose from a period of time when I worked for government in a department which promoted itself as scientifically based. And therefore reliable.

However, during the six years that I worked there, I observed numerous incidents of scientific and statistical deception and deliberate mistruth. These appeared to be motivated by political and ideological imperatives, and went as far as the deputy director general.

I came to realize that our notion of an independent and fearless public service is no more. The politicization of the public service in Australia is such that every statement, scientific or otherwise, which is made by an Australian public servant, must be seen as being politically driven.

What has this to do with safe sex and my little project on ISG? Well, the mantra of safe sex is driven by government. Why would the govt do this? Because in a socialist system, providing free medical care, there is a major motivation to reduce cases of STI by any means, to reduce operating costs. The end justifies the means.

So we are deliberately put in a condition of fear, through misuse of statistics. This means that punters are basing their sexual preferences on corrupted information, or deliberate misinformation.

For example, when the Australian Dept of Health releases reports on rates of STI in Australia, they do not include any information on populations at higher risk. For example, aboriginals had an 8-fold higher risk of chlamydia, an 80-fold higher risk of gonorrhoea, and a 100-fold greater risk of syphilis than the general population; homosexual are more than 6 times more likely to have experienced an STI in their life; women who identify as bisexual are more than 3 times more likely; men and women who are intravenous drug users are roughly three and five times more likely, respectively, to experience an STI. These high risk groups therefore significantly skew the apparent degree of risk in the general population, such as our punters.

So what I have been doing is to provide some totally valid data which punters may or may not consider in making their behavioural choices. And note that my comments are related solely to STI, and not pregnancy. And in none of my posts did I advocate that punters should behave in the same way that I do.

RK highlighted the fact that I take medications to reduce the likelihood of contracting an STI. But this is only a partial protection. Pete Benetar made me aware of this possibility through a couple of posts, maybe 2 years ago. I did not understand what he was saying, but I pursued it via my doctor. I did not know that STIs are transmitted in two ways. One group via bacteria, and the second group via virus. The antibiotics that I take only provide protection against bacterially transmitted STI. So the protection that I get is limited, but it does act to reduce the likelihood of getting an STI, maybe by 30% to 40.

Of the sexual partners that I have had here in the Phils, almost all are educated, employed, middle class, because that is the kind of woman that I am looking for in a permanent relationship. Maybe 20% are P4P, when I need a bed warmer.

It appeared to me that RK was assuming that the numbers of partners across my life that I stated (440) were pinay, or Asian.

This is not the case. About 235 of the women were westerners, mostly American and Australian. They are educated, knowledgeable about sex, pregnancy and disease. Yet not one of them insisted on using condoms.

Interestingly, the relatively high rate of STI infections among prostitutes in Australia indicates that many of them are not using condoms, either.

I think that about covers it.

Gangles

AskeAske

04-09-14, 19:09

[QUOTE=Gangles; 1552717]Recently, RK posted a number of comments regarding my recent post of statistics of STI vs numbers of my sexual partners, without a condom.

Why don't you write on the safe / unsafe tread?

Red Kilt

04-13-14, 03:40

Check out this latest report.

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/one-in-10-young-filipinas-is-a-mom-085456964.html

Wicked Roger

04-13-14, 06:42

Check out this latest report.

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/one-in-10-young-filipinas-is-a-mom-085456964.htmlNice article RK.

While not surprising in the main the 1 in 10 being mothers in the age range 15-19 is, as I would have thought it would be higher. Go to the UAE speak to many pinay sales girls and you will find more than 1 in 10 are moms, many had the kids in that age range (I do 'research' as well in my spare time). Just a thought.

And many wonder why there is poverty etc in the country. Am sure the Catholic church will place a positive spin on this as did one of theie\are clery a while when saying over population in the country was OK (Gods will etc) as meant more DHs / house girls / care givers for the rest of the world-odd logic indeed.

GoodEnough

04-13-14, 11:26

Check out this latest report.

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/one-in-10-young-filipinas-is-a-mom-085456964.htmlThanks RK. I don't really believe these statistics, as they're probably self-reported and thus underestimate the scope of the problem vim betting that the incidence of pregnancies among women in the target age group is significantly higher.

Wicked Roger

04-13-14, 13:14

While those who buy on the street are confident as I am also, this is about some fake Robust tablets

If you know the seller or trust the guy as many do am sure no issues as others have said before in this thread.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/593894/fake-dietary-tablets-seized-in-nbi-raids

Sam 14

04-13-14, 17:16

Hello. The member formerly posting as Pimpin Sam decided to dump the prefix. A, for a long time he hasn't had much need for pimps. And B, he has never owned a bar, or ever actually pimped a woman in his life.

All the best guys, and thanks for all the great posts and help!

Sam

WestCoast1

04-13-14, 18:50

Nolz7

04-13-14, 18:55

Picked up a new mobile phone in my country. My previous phones used SIM cards that were the same size as those sold by Smart and Globe, and I could easily interchange my western phone SIM with philippine SIM cards. However, newer phones now use smaller SIM cards (micro & nano-sim sizes). If I bring the new phone to phils, can I get a phils Globe or Smart SIM in the smaller micro-SIM size?

WCYou can now get micro sims from Philippine carriers. If not they can always cut the regular size sim card into a micro to fit in your phone.

JPF

04-13-14, 20:34

Picked up a new mobile phone in my country. My previous phones used SIM cards that were the same size as those sold by Smart and Globe, and I could easily interchange my western phone SIM with philippine SIM cards. However, newer phones now use smaller SIM cards (micro & nano-sim sizes). If I bring the new phone to phils, can I get a phils Globe or Smart SIM in the smaller micro-SIM size?

WCI had no trouble getting a Smart micro-SIM card. There is a punch tool (like a hole punch) that turns a regular SIM card into either a micro or nano SIM. Most telecom places will have one.

WestCoast1

04-13-14, 22:20

I had no trouble getting a Smart micro-SIM card. There is a punch tool (like a hole punch) that turns a regular SIM card into either a micro or nano SIM. Most telecom places will have one.JPF: Thanks. So, I should be able to find a Smart / Globe shop in a mall that will either sell their own micro-SIM card, or they will be able to cut / punch their regular SIM card into a micro-sized card for my western phone?

One extra pic for JP for bringing the good news.

Pip Jaeger

04-14-14, 01:01

It's hard to find the precut ones, most likely the shop will punch out the regular SIM to fit your phone. I've got an iPhone that uses the micro-SIM and haven't had any issues finding a shop to perform the task. You can also go on eBay and search for Phils micro-SIM cards, sometimes you can find one there, you'll also see the tool they use (you can buy one yourself for about 8USD or so). Stay away from the templates they sell there as you can download it for free elsewhere, but don't waste your time with it. I did that before and wasn't able to cut the SIM precisely enough for it to work in my phone. Much better to use the punch tool (the shops here do it for free).

As a side note, I've also gotten in the habit of buying a load card each time before I leave (check the expiration date; they're usually good for about a year or more). That way I don't have to try to find a retailer at the airport to load my phone and as I use Smart it's difficult or impossible sometimes to find one when you arrive late at night. You can also occasionally find them for sale on eBay too (at a slight mark-up) , but stick to US based sellers as the ones from the Phils might get "lost" in the mail.

Wicked Roger

04-14-14, 01:58

picked up a new mobile phone in my country. my previous phones used sim cards that were the same size as those sold by smart and globe, and i could easily interchange my western phone sim with philippine sim cards. however, newer phones now use smaller sim cards (micro & nano-sim sizes). if i bring the new phone to phils, can i get a phils globe or smart sim in the smaller micro-sim size?

wci can only speak for globe westie but the globe shop in ayala in cebu sells the micro sims. plenty koreans with the s4 go there as they seem to have no clue how to insert the sm (and no clue on most other things regarding that phone if you speek to the globe assistant)

one of my rules is when i am visiting globe there and see lots of koreans i turn around and come back later as they spend an age getting their micro sims.

Sid70

04-14-14, 06:44

Picked up a new mobile phone in my country. My previous phones used SIM cards that were the same size as those sold by Smart and Globe, and I could easily interchange my western phone SIM with philippine SIM cards. However, newer phones now use smaller SIM cards (micro & nano-sim sizes). If I bring the new phone to phils, can I get a phils Globe or Smart SIM in the smaller micro-SIM size?

WCHi Westie,

When I was at Cebu last year, I went straight to Ayala to a Smart-shop and bought a micro-SIM, easy. And it was also a good opportunity to start a conversation with a cute lady I saw there. Just asked her to help me out to find a shop and invited her to a drink later and so on.

Red Kilt

04-14-14, 09:04

Hilarious.

Easy to understand why this dildo smelled fishy.

http://www.news.com.au/world/norwegian-fisherman-finds-large-orange-dildo-inside-stomach-of-cod/story-fndir2ev-1226884045928

Dg8787

04-14-14, 15:59

Most places can cut existing SIM cards to fit the phone, thereby keeping your old number.

You can load your phone or anyone else's online at arty. Com from out of the country. I do that before I get on a plane for Phil insuring I have cell service when I touch down. It came in handy as I was in my AC hotel room on a very important long distance call and running out of load trying to close a sale. I just got online and loaded my phone!

Gangles

04-15-14, 03:01

Redman69

04-15-14, 15:46

I have on several forms tried to cover the facts you point out. Land title is a big one. Graft and corruption. Right now the Chinese are telling women they can have more than one baby. They see what is happening to Europe and Japan with no workers to fill the spaces and pay the pensions. Japanese companies for 20 years have offered to pay workers 20K US to just have a baby. Know they need future workers. And from the same culture and work ethic so as to assume ongoing positions and maintain standards. The problems for RP is the culture. What is a loan? What do you own? It can all be taken from you. There is no law. So you only own what you can protect. Pinoys have a hard time in other cultures. But they also try like hell to get off those islands. And learn the system of where they land. Because any system and culture is better than theirs and they know that is why they left. If there was not so much corruption in the school system they could have workers trained working the world. An example. Seafarers in the world are 25% Pinoy. They understand boat sink we die. And work hard to keep it floating. If only other trades and crafts were so simple they would excel world wide. Only one nurse passed the Japanese nursing board exam. Yea it is language. But if they were to think and teach in Jap. There would be a million workers in Japan now. But money for those classes always seem to disappear before the books are bought. So back to your point.

D Cups

04-15-14, 15:50

The Philippines has all three, and hence it is unlikely to be able to climb out of generic poverty for a long time. GThanks for this, G. It is good to know that everything in PI will be affordable for a long time. I hope to see you and RK and WR in June if you're around. I'll be in MNL, AC, CEB and DMG. Regards.

Hutsori

04-15-14, 17:14

WR, poverty in any country does not originate from young pregnancies.

The three primary drivers of poverty are:

Widespread and endemic corruption.

Unstable government.

An ineffective land title system.It's quite a vicious cyclone the most Filipinos find themselves in. Great post, Gangles.

Right now the Chinese are telling women they can have more than one baby. They see what is happening to Europe and Japan with no workers to fill the spaces and pay the pensions.Hell, the Chinese don't need to look afar. In 2020 is it projected to be 35,000,0000 more men than women. Thirty-five million! That's Canada's population. That's seven Norways - need I remind you of what one lone Norwegian has torn through here each day during his short stays??? Expect barfines and ST / LT charges to skyrocket accordingly. I fear the GFE will evolve to the GBE (Gang Bang Experience) as these Pinays endeavour to accommodate the pent up demand of the under-sexed on tight holiday schedules. How will the place handle the tsunami of cum?

Redman69

04-15-14, 18:01

I have offered to pay for my ugly little sister in laws Mandarin classes. And she goes why I want to go to Canada. Now that is the culture thing. With 1. 7 million homeless kids on the streets of Manila alone. 1/2 are girls. Teach them Mandarin and send them to China. Shit it would be better than shooting Chinese tourist on a bus. Well I still like Gangles info even though we digress.

Pinaypounder

04-15-14, 21:07

WR, poverty in any country does not originate from young pregnancies.

The three primary drivers of poverty are:

Widespread and endemic corruption.

Unstable government.

An ineffective land title system.

Corruption has two effects. One is to drain money from the public coffers, which is a relatively minor effect. The main problem is that corruption distorts the tendering and contracting, which causes contracts to be let which do not give best value for money. An example is Hun Sen, and the billion dollars given by the EU to repair Highway 1.

Unstable government means that governments do not honour contracts which are let. For example Terminal 3 in Manila airport. The effect of this is to scare away foreign investment, which is essential for national development.

An ineffective land title system means that owners of land cannot leverage their land to increase wealth. The Phils is a classic example of this, with 4 sources of title. So banks cannot be certain of a title as proof of ownership, and hence will not lend against a title as surety.

If any country, or community, has any one of the three, there will be widespread poverty. For example, the remote aboriginal communities in central Australia. The Philippines has all three, and hence it is unlikely to be able to climb out of generic poverty for a long time.

GGangles I would disagree not sure what land tenure has to do with it for me the 3 causes are:

1. Ignorance, lack of proper education. If you think just because they go to school for 10 years they are educated, ha. These people I am sad to say are dumb by my standards, they simply can not solve simple problems I know I have had MANY staff there for years! They are paid shit for a reason! That will insult some of you but consider the service in a restaurant versus the service in Thailand. Consider the service in any business compared to Thailand. If I did not have staff there and mine now are EXCELLENT people I would never visit this place Thailand is 5 times better in every way except language!

2. Religion and poor culture values (the flip side is they are happy)

3. Lack of proper transportation Infrastructure, hard to understand for many but Canada US and Western Europe have the best road and transportations infrastructures on the globe and that allows access to markets and mobility which is a cornerstone of wealth generation. Rome had great roads!!!!! Every poor country on the planet lacks proper roads!

4. Corruption which would be reduced with a greater level of education and a different culture.

5. Poor Banking.

The Philipinos EXPECT to be fucked over and they are ok with that. Thats the teaching of the Catholic Church, GIVE to the Church and HEAVEN will rock! I paraphrased a little.

I have had staff and highly educated and learned pinoy friends for many years these poor people will never overcome these issues and now they are further burdened by a simple overuse of resources, there are tom any mouths to feed with to few resources, so in summary men like this group will continue to fuck and stimulate the local economy for generations!

The poor banking is that a Farmer who owns land can not borrow against it so he goes to money lenders with us-eras rates and they fuck the farmer and the cycle repeats itself. If a farmer could get a 5% loan they would actually GET AHEAD in life.

Sadly I think the people that know this take advantage of this. I mean things are not cheap in the phils, things like rooms and meals and anything that requires a capital outlay meaning the women bring us and we spend with the rich.

The system will remain in place for the next 100 years an there will be greater and greater class discrepancy until their is a revolution and this has been repeated many times in history!

PP

Amanut

04-16-14, 01:23

I have offered to pay for my ugly little sister in laws Mandarin classes. And she goes why I want to go to Canada.Perhaps condition her that she may have her sights set on the wrong target. I have in depth knowledge of OFWs working in Canada.

My conspiracy theory is this: On April 1. 2012, the Canadian govt passed legislation OFWs can only work in Canada for four years. They must then leave Canada and go home for four years. At that time I predicted the Catholic churches basements would be full of Filipinos gnashing their teeth about how it was not fair and public sentiment would favor them. They work so hard, don't complain, and they are just darn cute and cuddly.

Even up until a year ago I think this would have been the case. In the last year, in Canada like so many other countries, the tide of OFW support has turned to a backlash against them. Publicized reports of banks outsourcing, miners who must speak Mandarin to apply to work in Canada, McDonalds hiring OFWs full time while cutting Canadian's hours is starting to take a toll.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/mcdonald-s-foreign-worker-practices-face-growing-investigation-1.2607365

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/report-on-business/economy/jobs/foreign-labour-program-has-outgrown-its-usefulness/article17951222/

My thought is that with one year to go until the first OFWs are due to be refused new work permits and told to leave, the govt is using these public complaints to ensure that when PFWs complain about having to leave, the government will have turned the public support against OFWs and into support for the government. Who by just by coincidence I am sure are due to run for reelection in September.

Redman69, if you want more info send me a PM with some questions and I will do my best to answer them. Keep in mind I go there to find the cute ones because they seem to send the ugly ones here. She just may fit in here.

FreebieFan

04-16-14, 04:00

. Right now the Chinese are telling women they can have more than one baby. They see what is happening to Europe and Japan with no workers to fill the spaces and pay the pensions. .Kind of wrong Redman. I see your argument, but your assumptions about China are wrong. In some selected cities, Chinese who were single children themselves, married to a single child will be allowed a second child.

http://www.china-profile.com/data/fig_pop_2.htm

China is trying to pro-actively manage its population to ensure that by 2050, when more than 50% of its population is in the ageing class, that it will have enough workers. But if you know China, you will know it will never import workers unless under very strict and temporary conditions.

In my lifetime we will never see Filipino OFW's working legally in China even if they know Mandarin. Singaporeans and Malaysian and Indonesian Chinese yes, but not Filipinos.

Hutsori

04-16-14, 04:34

Kind of wrong Redman. I see your argument, but your assumptions about China are wrong. In some selected cities, Chinese who were single children themselves, married to a single child will be allowed a second child.Allowed doesn't necessarily mean it will be acted upon; kids are costly, and the Chinese are likely to behave similarly to the Koreans and Japanese who spend huge sums to rear their sole child to thrive in their hyper-competitive societies. Those most inclined to opt in are those who have a daughter and who wish for a son. Just what China needs: more boys.

FreebieFan

04-16-14, 06:38

Allowed doesn't necessarily mean it will be acted upon; kids are costly, and the Chinese are likely to behave similarly to the Koreans and Japanese who spend huge sums to rear their sole child to thrive in their hyper-competitive societies. Those most inclined to opt in are those who have a daughter and who wish for a son. Just what China needs: more boys.Whilst I know we are on a Philippines sex site, and I don't mean to divert it, one last comment here.

The Chinese leadership will quietly promote the second child for the social aspect that having a brother or sister brings.

The Chinese are very aware that the single children who are now adults behave in very anti social ways on planes, in hospitals (attacking doctors who don't give them priority, stabbing or shooting them when they give them a diagnosis they don't agree with) and in general when overseas, demanding and expecting preferential treatment because they've been spoil and led to expect all their lives.

They know that those that have siblings generally are more social, more mature, and more aware of their social responsibilities. Where it all goes, who really knows.

Ok. Back to the subject matter.

Redman69

04-16-14, 18:01

Guys, I want her to marry some average working Chino, Who can not afford a 2 bedroom condo in Shanghi put in her name. My mother in law will sign the papers for a toaster.

As pointed out there are many more men. They will want women. If you can say I Do. In Manderian I think it will be a legal marriage. And my little sister inlaw who is ugly will not be Bi like she is now. She can be Hetro, have a baby and be married to a man who works and supports his wife and kid.

It will not be long before those 30 million men start visiting RP, supply and demand. Prices will raise some. My sister in law can help me support Ma.

Now I do agree on Chinese from Indonesia, Thailand and Vietnam will be first in line. But there are ugly Chinese men for short ugly Pinays.

Now, men go to the border with N. Korea and pay for brides who get across.

I really do agree on the property issue though. And when the farmer does not own. He does not invest in the soil either. Shift fields. And other good long term practices.

Amavida

04-17-14, 00:48

WR, poverty in any country does not originate from young pregnancies.

<snip Gangle, All of what you say is true IMHO but I think you'd agree it sure as hell adds to the misery.

AV

Amavida

04-17-14, 01:05

1. ignorance, lack of proper education. if you think just because they go to school for 10 years they are educated, ha. these people i am sad to say are dumb by my standards, they simply can not solve simple problems i know i have had many staff there for years! they are paid shit for a reason! that will insult some of you but consider the service in a restaurant versus the service in thailand. consider the service in any business compared to thailand. if i did not have staff there and mine now are excellent people i would never visit this place thailand is 5 times better in every way except language!i've walked the walk in pi pp. sadly i have to agree with you. a few are lucky enough to graduate from top universities with usable qualifications but most emerge from educational institutions that are little better than expensive teenage crèches. these go into the job market utterly help less & take a long time to train up to a globally competitive standard.

i got involved with the pi years ago because of the perception of lower language barrier. these day's i see english literacy dropping in pi amongst the average serf so that advantage is receding in my experience. i noticed recently that speeches in their congress no longer have to be in english.

over time reality set in for me & i realised that one can spend their time / money better elsewhere. i have to agree with you, thailand offers a much better proposition.

av

Gangles

04-17-14, 08:15

Hi PP,

In my country 80% of the wealth lies in the ownership of land.

The average young Australian can decide to buy a property, even though he does not have the cash to afford it. He buys the property by borrowing the money from a bank, or other lender. He offers surety for the loan by entering into a mortgage arrangement, with the title as surety. This is leveraging title to create wealth, because the young guy steadily pays off the loan, and eventually takes sole ownership, unencumbered. He can then take the title to a bank and borrow money against the title for purposes of starting a business, buying more property etc.

The bank will accept this surety, because it is certain that the title accurately reflects the ownership of the property.

This is generally not the situation in the Philippines. Because there are 4 agencies which are authorised to issue title, a bank can not be certain that the title does accurately reflect ownership. While I was working on a land titling project in the Philippines, we came across a property in Quezon City which had three apparently valid titles, all in different names.

So the average Filipino has no opportunity to leverage land to create wealth.

G

Gangles I would disagree not sure what land tenure has to do with it for me the 3 causes are:

1. Ignorance, lack of proper education. If you think just because they go to school for 10 years they are educated, ha. These people I am sad to say are dumb by my standards, they simply can not solve simple problems I know I have had MANY staff there for years! They are paid shit for a reason! That will insult some of you but consider the service in a restaurant versus the service in Thailand. Consider the service in any business compared to Thailand. If I did not have staff there and mine now are EXCELLENT people I would never visit this place Thailand is 5 times better in every way except language!

2. Religion and poor culture values (the flip side is they are happy)

3. Lack of proper transportation Infrastructure, hard to understand for many but Canada US and Western Europe have the best road and transportations infrastructures on the globe and that allows access to markets and mobility which is a cornerstone of wealth generation. Rome had great roads! Every poor country on the planet lacks proper road...

Econo Tech

04-18-14, 02:12

GOn an unrelated note, every time I see property in Philippines on instalment basis including condos I have to try not to laugh when they present the payment terms: 60% to 80% down payment and balance on instalment. Including for condos that haven't seen even the land being prepared. Essentially the developer gets a risk free ride, so to say, just on the down payments alone.

Only in the Philippines it is allowed to sell as much units as position before even starting the piling work.

Amavida, was in Bauko last week. Guess what, under the new education policy mother tongue education has started in Philippines. So the kids in Bauko are studying in Ilocano. As if that's going to be a mighty helpful to go overseas.

And my friend 's sister commented that it may be part of the plans of oligarchs to clip the wings of future Filipinos lest all take wings and leave the taipans with no staff.

LOLWTFBBGirl

04-20-14, 00:15

Hi guys,

I'm a 26 yo aussie. I want to hit the Philippines for a mixture of sex and just general tourism stuff. This will be my first proper holiday and I will be going alone.

I have a few questions regarding things I've read and just a few general questions, I realize alot of my questions have no clear cut answer so I'm more after forum goers opinions.

1) how long should I book for in total? I have no time constraints, I could literally book for a one way ticket and come back in two years. But I'm really looking for an opinion on a good "sweet" spot where I won't feel rushed but I'm also not going to be bored. My understanding is that I must have a return ticket booked when entering Philo from Australia?

2) I hope to go in June. I realize this is just the beginning of the wet season? What is the night life activity like during this period, as well as the availability of tours and girls?

3) is it possible to book one night at a hotel then just pay as I go? Or do hotels fill up fast. I don't want to tie myself down.

4) is Angeles city worth going from a tourism stand point or is it just worth going there for girls? Can anyone recommend and awesome places that aren't well known for me to research?

Finally,

5) I've read mixed reports about the safety of the streets at night. Some reports say to get s taxi if you're more than 6 minutes away from the red light district in Manila, others say it's okay to walk around at night in general. Anyone have a more recent opinion?

Thanks for reading, I'm sure if anyone could tackle these questions they would assist others as well as myself.

Cheers

Red Kilt

04-20-14, 04:03

Amavida, was in Bauko last week. Guess what, under the new education policy mother tongue education has started in Philippines. So the kids in Bauko are studying in Ilocano. As if that's going to be a mighty helpful to go overseas.

And my friend 's sister commented that it may be part of the plans of oligarchs to clip the wings of future Filipinos lest all take wings and leave the taipans with no staff.There's no grand conspiracy plan ET.

Mother Tongue (MT) is to be used up to Grade 3. After that the multi-lingual education (MLE) policy kicks in and students start to learn English and / or Filipino AS WELL as their MT or local dialect.

Watch this power point for more information.

http://ceap.org.ph/upload/download/2.17420447_1.pdf

It will make children MORE literate instead of less literate