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PirateMorgan
09-18-14, 00:01
yes skype does not need 4 mb download speed. i just want that for general use. skype suffers below. 5 mb upload speed. the person on the other end will see a degraded picture. i met two females on philippine cupid last night and we communicated on skype. with video. not conclusive buy hopeful anyway. the connections were fine. one was 4 mb service. (by the way. i do not need 4 mb upload) i know it is hard to hit the nail on this one.

something called amavida has been making comments since i started this conversation (which others seem to have an interest in). why his comments about my having or not having money were made. or commenting on what people can and cannot discuss here. or his use of the subject pronoun 'we' instead of i. is puzzling to me. reminds me of the kid in school whose pants were always full of skid marks and no one wanted to talk or listen to him. this guys skid marks are at least a week old. better he just listen and absorb. and change his pants.

Wicked Roger
09-18-14, 02:52
yes skype does not need 4 mb download speed. i just want that for general use. skype suffers below. 5 mb upload speed. the person on the other end will see a degraded picture. i met two females on philippine cupid last night and we communicated on skype. with video. not conclusive buy hopeful anyway. the connections were fine. one was 4 mb service. (by the way. i do not need 4 mb upload) i know it is hard to hit the nail on this one.

something called amavida has been making comments since i started this conversation (which others seem to have an interest in). why his comments about my having or not having money were made. or commenting on what people can and cannot discuss here. or his use of the subject pronoun 'we' instead of i. is puzzling to me. reminds me of the kid in school whose pants were always full of skid marks and no one wanted to talk or listen to him. this guys skid marks are at least a week old. better he just listen and absorb. and change his pants.pm,

read the comments that others have given here and understand that there are huge "ifs and buts" around internet speeds. i have been chatting with pj a lot recently and we regularly test the speed and this varies enormously as amavida said in his fr.

i also use skype a lot and yes there are issues but you need to accept as is can be hard to get faster and you don't need the speed you have to be ok on skype as i have never got 4 mb and i still see the girl. or chat on ym as easier.

so listen to advice and don't be rude to people. although amavida describing you as a "something" did make me chuckle. as for the skid marks i cannot comment and i don't want to know as would spoil breakfast lol but we (as in pronoun 'we') all know a good boy never goes out without clean underpants so i very much doubt amavida are full of skid marks pm as he is always chasing pussy in ac and likes to give a professional impression lol.

Econo Tech
09-18-14, 06:14
Something called Amavida has been making comments since I started this conversation (which others seem to have an interest in). Why his comments about my having or not having money were made. Or commenting on what people can and cannot discuss here. Or his use of the subject pronoun 'we' instead of I. Is puzzling to me. Reminds me of the kid in school whose pants were always full of skid marks and no one wanted to talk or listen to him. This guys skid marks are at least a week old. Better he just listen and absorb. And change his pants.You did eloquently write up that? Well, I believe in your teaching skills.

With that kind of 'kind' words, I am sure you will make a fine teacher in Philippines.

It will be just a matter of time before somebody pops a 22 or a larger caliber.

Just saying.

Rule no 1, never offend the natives, and same rule, sort of, applies to any internet forum.

I don't see anything that Amavida said that should have touched a raw nerve.

And he is on the ball.

My BB internet in Baguio, Globe Tatoo, at 10 MB crawls when you watch youtube on High resolution, always.

And at times, my Smart pocket 3 G Wifi is faster that the Globe.

And when in Bauko, the Globe 3 G rocks, and Smart crawls.

And above all happens when the signal shows all bars alive.

GoodEnough
09-18-14, 10:06
this afternoon i was at greenbelt, and while having lunch, signed onto the "free" wifi to hit the cebu pacific site in order to buy a ticket back to davao for tomorrow. i would estimate that the first page took 30-45 seconds to load. i signed off, and just for the hell of it measured the upload speed, at. 2 mbps; barely there at all. no wonder this country's such a dynamic, envied, economic regional powerhouse. oh wait, i forgot, that's singapore.

Amavida
09-18-14, 10:51
yes skype does not need 4 mb download speed. i just want that for general use. skype suffers below. 5 mb upload speed. the person on the other end will see a degraded picture. i met two females on philippine cupid last night and we communicated on skype. with video. not conclusive buy hopeful anyway. the connections were fine. one was 4 mb service. (by the way. i do not need 4 mb upload) i know it is hard to hit the nail on this one.you need business grade isp services to support your online teaching then i stand behind my advice to get over here in the phils where i reside & check out the top tier isp's for qos & pricing of business grade services for your enterprise. myself & others have shared anecdotal stories of varying qos with residential grade services.

with air travel so cheap these day's any schmuck can afford a quick trip to the pi's.


something called amavida has been making comments since i started this conversation (which others seem to have an interest in). why his comments about my having or not having money were made. or commenting on what people can and cannot discuss here. or his use of the subject pronoun 'we' instead of i. is puzzling to me. reminds me of the kid in school whose pants were always full of skid marks and no one wanted to talk or listen to him. this guys skid marks are at least a week old. better he just listen and absorb. and change his pants.you sent me an insulting pm calling me names & bragging of your wealth. no idea why you started behaving like this or need to behave like this but i'm sure nobody on the open forum wants to read tit for tat nonsense so i'll demonstrate some restraint & manners in the hope that we get back to discussing our hobby.

by the way if you do come here, please let me know so i can buy you a beverage & share a few stories.

cheers mate,

av.

Wicked Roger
09-18-14, 15:04
pm,


i also use skype a lot and yes there are issues but you need to accept as is can be hard to get faster and you don't need the speed you have to be ok on skype as i have never got 4 mb and i still see the girl. or chat on ym as easier...well i stand corrected but i am also amazed as since this thread has been discussing the speed i now test mine at different times of the day and guess what? it reached 6 mb download and a good 2+mb upload. the photo.

but i have pldt, residential fiber optic and this was very late in the evening so please factor that into the equation as similar to ge's comment below, i have also had 0. 3/1. 1 etc. mostly the philippine web site have issues as i face the same with cebu pac, inquirer, phil star and many for nationally based websites.

and ge you could have said malaysia, indonesia, thailand in fact just about anywhere lol.

X Man
09-18-14, 15:23
LMAO. I would think that "restraint" wouldn't include suggesting that someone is a schmuck. As for titting and tatting, it seems that AVs public comments were in response to an earlier pm from the Pirate. A rude pm should stay in the pm territory, although I know it is sometimes difficult to exercise such restraint. Sorry if I've misread the thread in any way.

Just curious about what others think, is a pm really private and should you expect it to be private? Would you take a private message and make it public? Oh, the Internet, so many conundrums. X Man.


You need business grade ISP services to support your online teaching then I stand behind my advice to get over here in the Phils where I reside & check out the top tier ISP's for QoS & pricing of business grade services for your enterprise. Myself & others have shared anecdotal stories of varying QoS with residential grade services.

With air travel so cheap these day's any schmuck can afford a quick trip to the PI's.

You sent me an insulting PM calling me names & bragging of your wealth. No idea why you started behaving like this or need to behave like this but I'm sure nobody on the open forum wants to read tit for tat nonsense so I'll demonstrate some restraint & manners in the hope that we get back to discussing our hobby.

By the way if you do come here, please let me know so I can buy you a beverage & share a few stories.

Cheers mate,

AV.

PirateMorgan
09-18-14, 17:07
Your response to my inquirey.

I was not looking for anyone's opinion on anything. Just information. I went and read your other posts. I am still trying to figure out if you know anything about anything.

Then why ask?

I've given you my best advice based on your extremely vague question. I see you are active on the central American forums. Maybe its too far / too expensive to come here to the Phil's to do a recce? Honestly, if you are rich you can have anything you want in PI. You can get fast cable internet if you want to pay for it.

I stand by my advice, come here & get the lay of the land if you are considering a move here.

Cheers mate,

AV.

Then it's a good thing I am rich. Your comments are idiotic.

I now give up on the quest. Just wanted simple info. Not opinions. I have been using Skype for years and have always wanted to be on the cutting edge of 'presentation'. Making the experience as much like 'being there' for them. My students, including the Chief economist at the Central Bank of Costa Rica and the Presidents of five banks in see. Are. Have enjoyed their experience on-line with me. If I knew everything I would not have asked here on the board for information. A few of you had some good stuff to contribute and I appreciate that. The some total of my private exchanges is provided for your viewing pleasure. A couple of you wrote some comment to me about him they referred to him as a 'troll'. I would say more as they were private. Now. I will retire from this exchange.

Uzinuzin
09-18-14, 23:26
The formal application like you use for a renewal is not needed when getting the visa at the airport (MNL or CEB). Simply present with your passport, the form they give you on the plane (completed of course), your itinerary or return ticket showing that will be departing (which they may not even ask for) and the respective amount in pesos (should be about p2,750). Once in MNL another guy didn't have pesos so they escorted him out to a money changer in the terminal; note that this was in the wee hours and it was not busy so I don't know if that was an usual practice for the BOI to do that.I was thinking of doing this rather than going to PP embassy in London (cheaper there but more hassle). But I am planning to go with a return flight of about 89 days (59 + a 30 local extension or go out and come back), in this case though I think the airline might stop me at check-in if I don't have a 59 days visa already. !? While with a visa in passport from London it probably be safer, no!?

Amavida
09-19-14, 01:01
for folks depending on video calls / conferencing in the phils, considering qos of the isp is only part of the story. problems can arise in your own router, your isp's edge routers, your isp's core routing & peering links etc etc.

the other part of the problem to consider is also what video software which you are running. i would hesitate to recommend skype frankly. their qos has been declining for some time.

business alternatives i would suggest looking at would be vsee or webex. you could see major improvements on the same 'iffy' connection compared to skype.

av.

Econo Tech
09-19-14, 04:56
I would say more as they were private. Now. I will retire from this exchange.You must be a real joy to work for, no, I am not rich or so connected.

I know a few rich guys who have asked others to do their leg work that insist on subservience in an anonymous forum.

I may not have met your likes then.

Pip Jaeger
09-19-14, 10:51
I was thinking of doing this rather than going to PP embassy in London (cheaper there but more hassle). But I am planning to go with a return flight of about 89 days (59 + a 30 local extension or go out and come back), in this case though I think the airline might stop me at check-in if I don't have a 59 days visa already. !? While with a visa in passport from London it probably be safer, no!?If you want to avoid leaving / coming back and want to stay for 89 days straight then you will need two 59 day visa's, there is no "30 day local extension".

You shouldn't have any problems with the airline if you don't have the visa in advance. The only thing the airline checks for is that you have an outbound ticket, the date on it is irrelevant, as it's your responsibility to get (or have) the proper visa or visa extensions. You don't need to have an extended visa (s) in advance.

Of course you can go to the embassy and get it in advance, I think they will issue up to three 59 day visa's in advance which must be used within a year of your first entry date. If time allows, you can do it by mail / FedEx too and save the trip, but check with your local embassy first to make sure it's ok and how much time is needed; here in the USA they usually say it takes about 4 weeks. Even by mail it still can be a bit of a hassle if you don't follow their un-clear instructions (West Coast wrote about it some time back and gave very good step by step instructions).

Lonely566
09-19-14, 11:04
If you want to avoid leaving / coming back and want to stay for 89 days straight then you will need two 59 day visa's, there is no "30 day local extension".

You shouldn't have any problems with the airline if you don't have the visa in advance. The only thing the airline checks for is that you have an outbound ticket, the date on it is irrelevant, as it's your responsibility to get (or have) the proper visa or visa extensions. You don't need to have an extended visa (s) in advance.

Of course you can go to the embassy and get it in advance, I think they will issue up to three 59 day visa's in advance which must be used within a year of your first entry date. If time allows, you can do it by mail / FedEx too and save the trip, but check with your local embassy first to make sure it's ok and how much time is needed; here in the USA they usually say it takes about 4 weeks. Even by mail it still can be a bit of a hassle if you don't follow their un-clear instructions (West Coast wrote about it some time back and gave very good step by step instructions).Make sure that you have your application notarized! I sent mine in a few days ago, to the Philippine counsulate in San Francisco and forgot to do that. They just called me and told me to send in a new app. Notarized. Aw gezzzzzzzzz. I"m hapless.

Pip Jaeger
09-19-14, 11:42
Make sure that you have your application notarized! I sent mine in a few days ago, to the Philippine counsulate in San Francisco and forgot to do that. They just called me and told me to send in a new app. Notarized. Aw gezzzzzzzzz. I"m hapless.No one's fault but your own bro, however it sounds like something I'd forget to do as well. At least they called and not just rejected it and returned it. I presume the consualte will hold the rest of your paper work and you can simply print out another app, fill it out, get it notarized and send it without having to re-start the process?

When it's completed, please report back as to the total time it took start to finish (minus your boo-boo, lol)

Wicked Roger
09-19-14, 13:21
We have had a discussion on power and the rather futile attempt to justify the power shortage plus FRs on how the government wanted to respond. As GE and others have pointed out, the issue has been long standing and not much has been done to resolve except blame the previous lot of officials.

This from PhilStar I found an interesting read today and it does cover more than the power but is still an interesting article I think for those who follow this stuff.

http://www.philstar.com/freeman-opinion/2014/09/19/1370816/champ-among-corrupt

Wicked Roger
09-20-14, 02:46
We all know pinays are very brand aware and want oly the latest model mobile despite having one already that does the job ie text, call, surf etc (my mobile is 5 years old).

Already some pinays have 'hinted' they would love the new IPhone despite having Samsung S5 or IPhone5 or something equally as tasty. My response is always "why as your mobile is great and does the trick", "look at mine is 5 years old and does what your can do so why do you want to swap again after a year".

Now I also know they want this for their Facebook pages so they can brag and boast to those who can't afford. Even seen one girl selling her IPhone 5 for PHP 23 k recently on Facebook in anticipation of IPhone 6.

But. . . . see this article on prices and the comparisons with the USA Ridiculous and crazy so use this if you must to say no if the pinay persists or tell the price on the Philippines and ask her how will she save cash to buy it herself.

https://ph.news.yahoo.com/apple-iphone-6-iphone-6-plus-price-philippines-131957488.html

Personally I think the IPhone is a load of rubbish. Friends in the telecomm industry tell me that the HTC Touch One M8 (and Samsung) are the best but I have no real idea and don't care either LOL.

Lonely566
09-20-14, 02:59
No one's fault but your own bro, however it sounds like something I'd forget to do as well. At least they called and not just rejected it and returned it. I presume the consualte will hold the rest of your paper work and you can simply print out another app, fill it out, get it notarized and send it without having to re-start the process?

When it's completed, please report back as to the total time it took start to finish (minus your boo-boo, lol)I got a new application notarized and on it's way today. I'm an idiot. Its like John Wayne said. "Life is tough, it's a lot tougher if your stupid" fits me like an old "T" shirt.

GoodEnough
09-20-14, 03:01
We have had a discussion on power and the rather futile attempt to justify the power shortage plus FRs on how the government wanted to respond. As GE and others have pointed out, the issue has been long standing and not much has been done to resolve except blame the previous lot of officials.

This from PhilStar I found an interesting read today and it does cover more than the power but is still an interesting article I think for those who follow this stuff.

http://www.philstar.com/freeman-opinion/2014/09/19/1370816/champ-among-corruptLook, this is, in almost all respects, a failed state. The US and its allies needs a reliable vassal in the area, so the many flaws that would, in other circumstances, consign it to the scrap heap of other beggar nations, are papered over. So it's able to limp along. The current president is a moron, but so what? The power crisis has been looming for decades, and it will loom long after he's gone. This is a country populated by decent people and morally bankrupt politicians and its goinng to stay like this for generations.

GE.

Dg8787
09-20-14, 13:35
Just went through Terminal 1 at 7:30 pm Saturday. Less than 10% of the previous traffic due to relocation of a number of airlines. You can actually see the floor in front of you. Never knew the floor was light color stone! I have never had any issues with terminal 1 before. Now it is a real breeze, no traffic or lines. No waiting at departure tax line or passport control or the security X-ray check point. Made it thru all three in less than 3 minutes.

Lonely566
09-21-14, 01:11
Just went through Terminal 1 at 7:30 pm Saturday. Less than 10% of the previous traffic due to relocation of a number of airlines. You can actually see the floor in front of you. Never knew the floor was light color stone! I have never had any issues with terminal 1 before. Now it is a real breeze, no traffic or lines. No waiting at departure tax line or passport control or the security X-ray check point. Made it thru all three in less than 3 minutes.Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?

Member #4351
09-21-14, 01:16
Lonely566 maybe you should ask that on the http://www.flyertalk.com/ forum. There should be plenty of people who can help you out. Go to "miles and points" and then the thread of the airline you are using. Or just go to the Philippine thread.

Wicked Roger
09-21-14, 04:21
Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?IMHO not a chance as flights easily delayed due to NAIA congestion so maybe you are stuck on the ground in Cebu and won't take off for 30-60 minutes (yes this happens a lot) and then baggage claim will be / could be messy and then you need to check in again etc Too many variable that could easily go wrong.

In any normal first world developed airport, 2 hours is tough but doable as long as all things are efficient. Say Dubai, BKK, KUL where you don't have to get the bags and check in again just go via transit etc But this is the Philippines LOL.

And who or what agency sold you that ticket with that turnaround. Completely ridiculous as any agent / ticket seller would know 2 hours is barely doable in a good airports. I fly extensively and never take any transfers with less than 3 hours even if there is an earlier flight as Murphy's Law says you will be caught short when you least want it and it will cost a lot to put right.

And read Davis's advice as that is very sensible.

Amavida
09-21-14, 04:29
Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?If you're changing airlines then yes, its not enough time. Cutting it too fine will lead to disaster or stress the hell out of you. I noticed my favorite carrier, SIA did a _very_ close 30 minute interchange from one SIA flight to another the other week (MNL-SG-BNE). Great if you don't want to prolong your journey but almost caught me out because I did'nt check & assumed it was the usual 3 - 4 hours & almost missed boarding. But that is changing over in Changi on the same carrier.

AV.

Mbsl65
09-21-14, 09:34
Just tell to securty and go to in front of the line in terminal screen. 1 hour is more than enough.


Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?

Sammon
09-21-14, 14:08
Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?First you need to collect your bag from the Domestic flight. Take a cab to another terminal if it is so. Check the bag again, go through security and get to the gate.

Problems are,

1. Taxi line is long. Solution is pay more and get some guy who is always there asking if you need a taxi.

2. If your airline is a middle eastern one or some other airline going to middle east there will be a very long line. Solution just go to first class check in counter and explain to the girl there that you do not have much time.

3. If there is a long line at the security keep asking the people in front of you to see if they will let you go ahead. Otherwise tell a security guard there that you do not have much time.

Generally 2 hours is plenty. I have made connections which are less than an hour because of delayed flights.

Dg8787
09-21-14, 14:48
Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?Sorry for the late reply but I have been on 3 planes coming home on United Airlines. My only experience is on United without any transfer of terminals. Seems like you have gotten some good advice from others here.

For what ever it is worth, last year at terminal 1, I was waiting and waiting for my luggage while the same 8 or 9 bags were going round and round. United is their great wisdom had put my bag on a later flight. Mean while the United employees were loading up the 8 or 9 bags and I asked them if these were people who didn't make it thru immigration? The reply was no, these were the transfer bags to other flights! Not sure it they were to other United flights or other airlines. Either way not a very secure way to handle bags. Anyone could have grabbed a bag and gone out the "nothing to declare" line.

Dg8787
09-21-14, 14:54
Question sir. I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2.

Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. So please.

Enlighten me. Can I succeed in my endeavor? Sounds like you made it ok. Did you have to changer terminals? Did you have to collect your baggage first?At the second terminal grab a sky / cap or porter as you exit the cab, hand him a 100 peso bill and tell him you are in a hurry. He will take you to a special x-Ray line or to the front of the line and then to the front of the check-in line. I have done this many times before, especially at Terminal 1 with its long lines. Also at Cebu airport.

Pip Jaeger
09-21-14, 22:23
I have a return flight thru manila airport. I arrive there on a domestic flight from Cebu and transfer to an international flight to ICN. I have been told that my 2 Hour layover is not sufficient time to get from one terminal to the next. I tried to change my itinerary but they just needed too much money for that. Another option in case you are afraid of missing your connection would be to book an earlier one way flight from CEB to MNL; cost on Cebu Pacific, using one of their promo p650 fares as a base, is only about p2,150 all in (including an extra p600 for a suitcase, up to 30 kg).

And if you want to avoid MNL altogether then fly direct to ICN; again on Cebu Pacific the cost would be about p9, 500.


Did you have to collect your baggage first?Did you book from Cebu to your final destination? If so your checked in bags should be checked thru to your final destination even if you are changing airlines. The only time you should have to claim your bags would be to clear customs at the 1st port of entry in your home country and then afterwards simply hand them back off to an airline agent for them to continue on to your final destination (I. E. , from ICN to MCO via DFW. You would clear customs in DFW). Hawaii and Guam are about the only exceptions I'm aware of to that, I guess customs doesn't have the staff to check bags if you are continuing onto the mainland (or they don't consider themselves part of the USA yet, LOL).

MangoBob68
09-22-14, 02:28
Since I like island hopping. And plan to come live in the Philippines on a regular basis soon. I thought it would be cool to own my own boat. Example, 2nd hand for 200,000 pesos.

One I could modify for going on 2 or 3 day adventures. Eat and sleep on. Meaning - anchoring off a near by beach. Strickly coatal. No open waters.

I fantasize have 3 to 5 Filipina brown skin guapa Chica babes privately enjoy with me. Musica, drink, food, and lots of sex.

So I am just curious if anyone has had their own banca for island hopping besides renting a boat for a day.

Maybe too much trouble. Who can you trust to watch it when you not around?

I been told. I could go into the island hopping business in Cebu. But who can I trust. That is the issue.

Its not like I can keep it in a marina with docks and guard / fence / gates.

I think if I had a GF who has a relative who is a fisherman. I could pay him. Less likely he would cheat me. Remember I said less likely. Or maybe cheat me just a little. Ahahahha.

To be caretaker. Or even use it for fishing -.

Just thinking.

But sex ON and IN the water is great!

Hope to hear back from a few gentlemen.

Amavida
09-22-14, 02:46
Since I like island hopping. And plan to come live in the Philippines on a regular basis soon. I thought it would be cool to own my own boat. Example, 2nd hand for 200,000 pesos.

One I could modify for going on 2 or 3 day adventures. Eat and sleep on. Meaning - anchoring off a near by beach. Strickly coatal. No open waters.

I fantasize have 3 to 5 Filipina brown skin guapa Chica babes privately enjoy with me. Musica, drink, food, and lots of sex.

So I am just curious if anyone has had their own banca for island hopping besides renting a boat for a day.

Maybe too much trouble. Who can you trust to watch it when you not around?

I been told. I could go into the island hopping business in Cebu. But who can I trust. That is the issue.

Its not like I can keep it in a marina with docks and guard / fence / gates.

I think if I had a GF who has a relative who is a fisherman. I could pay him. Less likely he would cheat me. Remember I said less likely. Or maybe cheat me just a little. Ahahahha.

To be caretaker. Or even use it for fishing -.

Just thinking.

But sex ON and IN the water is great!

Hope to hear back from a few gentlemen.A 'pump boat' or kurante is big enough. I wanted one for hopping from Leyte to Malapacua island & island hopping. Was quoted P250 k or more for a newish one. Being a lover of DIY I bought an second hand hull in seaworthy condition P25 k + nrw 14 hp horizontal shaft motor P13,500 + new prop shaft rudder + paint + misc. About P50 k all in all & certainly big enough.

P200 k+ & a bit of ingenuity / swest would certainly be plenty to do what you envisage.

*A banca is the small canoe sized fishing boat.

AV.

Hutsori
09-22-14, 03:01
Since I like island hopping. And plan to come live in the Philippines on a regular basis soon. I thought it would be cool to own my own boat. Example, 2nd hand for 200,000 pesos.

One I could modify for going on 2 or 3 day adventures. Eat and sleep on. Meaning - anchoring off a near by beach. Strickly coatal. No open waters.

I fantasize have 3 to 5 Filipina brown skin guapa Chica babes privately enjoy with me. Musica, drink, food, and lots of sex.

So I am just curious if anyone has had their own banca for island hopping besides renting a boat for a day.

Maybe too much trouble. Who can you trust to watch it when you not around?

I been told. I could go into the island hopping business in Cebu. But who can I trust. That is the issue.

Its not like I can keep it in a marina with docks and guard / fence / gates.

I think if I had a GF who has a relative who is a fisherman. I could pay him. Less likely he would cheat me. Remember I said less likely. Or maybe cheat me just a little. Ahahahha.

To be caretaker. Or even use it for fishing -.

Just thinking.

But sex ON and IN the water is great!

Hope to hear back from a few gentlemen.A good friend recently took delivery of his catamaran. It was built by an Aussie living near Dumaguete. It's open-ocean worthy; he intends to sail SE Asia over the coming years. Cost him approx. P5 million; since he'll be living on it full time he will let his MOA condo. The boat has four large staterooms that each sleep 2 comfortably and 4 small rooms to berth singles, galley, saloon, wheelhouse, head, etc. Obviously he has wind power, also solar-powered batteries, and diesel engines.

Amavida
09-22-14, 04:01
A good friend recently took delivery of his catamaran. It was built by an Aussie living near Dumaguete. It's open-ocean worthy; he intends to sail SE Asia over the coming years. Cost him approx. P5 million; since he'll be living on it full time he will let his MOA condo. The boat has four large staterooms that each sleep 2 comfortably and 4 small rooms to berth singles, galley, saloon, wheelhouse, head, etc. Obviously he has wind power, also solar-powered batteries, and diesel engines.Nice!

AV.

Lonely566
09-22-14, 12:33
Thanks guys for all the good advice. I like the one about spreading some money around. That has worked well around the world for getting things done. That is one thing I miss mightyly when I'm home in the USA. Dealing with inspectors on a houseing project or a pig headed govenment official. I always think how nice it would be to slip him a fifty or a hundred to make alll the bs go away, like I would do if I were in the developing world. Ha ha.

Sock111
09-22-14, 14:32
I enjoyed my time in the Philippines. Manila is a waste of time and money.

Angeles was a lot of fun. Definitely spending more time there next year. I hope the scene grows but its just a small version of Pattaya right now.

LA cafe is full of hardened pros. You'd be pressed for time to find girls new to the scene.

Food in general sucks on average.

Overall I had mostly positive experiences in most bars. Shipwreck was the only bar that was super pushy with the lady drinks. The mamasan shoved a girl on my lap and asked me to buy her a drink. She even asked for a tip as I walked out.

Be careful of kids asking for handouts. 2 came up to me asking for hand outs. I knew exactly what they were planning. They tried to go for my pockets but I kept them at arms length with firm pushes. They gave up after the girl with me helped shoo them away. I generally only carry enough cash for the night so I would not have been a big loss but falling victim only will embolden these kids to do more.

Questor55
09-22-14, 21:26
A good friend recently took delivery of his catamaran. It was built by an Aussie living near Dumaguete. It's open-ocean worthy; he intends to sail SE Asia over the coming years. Cost him approx. P5 million; since he'll be living on it full time he will let his MOA condo. The boat has four large staterooms that each sleep 2 comfortably and 4 small rooms to berth singles, galley, saloon, wheelhouse, head, etc. Obviously he has wind power, also solar-powered batteries, and diesel engines.I think the builder is Nigel Roberts. He owns a small resort called Tonga Sails Resort at Tambobo Bay about an hour south of Duma. He runs a boat building co-op specializing in large cruising cataramans. Very accomplished sailor and competent builder. Usually stops by Why Not? For drinks and contact every Wednesday morning.

Mbsl65
09-23-14, 18:03
Very good price based on your description.


A good friend recently took delivery of his catamaran. It was built by an Aussie living near Dumaguete. It's open-ocean worthy; he intends to sail SE Asia over the coming years. Cost him approx. P5 million; since he'll be living on it full time he will let his MOA condo. The boat has four large staterooms that each sleep 2 comfortably and 4 small rooms to berth singles, galley, saloon, wheelhouse, head, etc. Obviously he has wind power, also solar-powered batteries, and diesel engines.

Mbsl65
09-23-14, 18:04
Don't do in USA unless you want to meet Bubba.


Thanks guys for all the good advice. I like the one about spreading some money around. That has worked well around the world for getting things done. That is one thing I miss mightyly when I'm home in the USA. Dealing with inspectors on a houseing project or a pig headed govenment official. I always think how nice it would be to slip him a fifty or a hundred to make alll the bs go away, like I would do if I were in the developing world. Ha ha.

MangoBob68
09-24-14, 05:43
A 'pump boat' or kurante is big enough. I wanted one for hopping from Leyte to Malapacua island & island hopping. Was quoted P250 k or more for a newish one. Being a lover of DIY I bought an second hand hull in seaworthy condition P25 k + nrw 14 hp horizontal shaft motor P13,500 + new prop shaft rudder + paint + misc. About P50 k all in all & certainly big enough.

P200 k+ & a bit of ingenuity / swest would certainly be plenty to do what you envisage.

*A banca is the small canoe sized fishing boat.

AV.Thanks for sharing. Yes, I should have said pumpboat not banca. I appreciate you breaking down and sharing the cost. May I ask what adventures you have had with it.

Places gone? You have someone reliable to keep an eye on it when you not around? Like to here more of your island hopping. Any photo of your pumpboat. Love to see it.

Take care.

Amavida
09-24-14, 12:51
Thanks for sharing. Yes, I should have said pumpboat not banca. I appreciate you breaking down and sharing the cost. May I ask what adventures you have had with it.

Places gone? You have someone reliable to keep an eye on it when you not around? Like to here more of your island hopping. Any photo of your pumpboat. Love to see it.

Take care.Ha ha sure ill share a pic of my 'yacht' the MV Lorna. Its a working boat so when I'm not roving the seas around San Isidro she's earning her keep hauling catches to the markets. I have a crew of two, one young keen fisherman & one very experienced old fisherman. I check up on them regularly, you can't leave employees alone too long.

Fishing has been lousy this month with 2 typhoons & a tropical storm all coming one after another.

Tell you some more adventures when I have time. Life is short!

AV.

Sam 14
09-24-14, 18:56
Snip> sure ill share a pic of my 'yacht' the MV Lorna. Nice! . It's rather close to my favorite color-pink. If it was mine, I'd paint it pink on the inside and brown on the outside. I think that would be funny.

Dg8787
09-24-14, 19:58
Ha ha sure ill share a pic of my 'yacht' the MV Lorna. Its a working boat so when I'm not roving the seas around San Isidro she's earning her keep hauling catches to the markets. I have a crew of two, one young keen fisherman & one very experienced old fisherman. I check up on them regularly, you can't leave employees alone too long.

Fishing has been lousy this month with 2 typhoons & a tropical storm all coming one after another.

Tell you some more adventures when I have time. Life is short!

AV.AV, I am curious, is that the size of boat that pulls P60,000 size of nets? Your previous post about nets to me has got me wondering! I know nothing about fishing. Thanks.

Amavida
09-24-14, 21:28
AV, I am curious, is that the size of boat that pulls P60,000 size of nets? Your previous post about nets to me has got me wondering! I know nothing about fishing. Thanks.Correct. A new net comes as several large pieces which need to be sewn together & then floats & weights added. It took two experienced men about two weeks of day & night labor to complete. I think it cost me P10 k for labor. Sounds like a lot but its incredibly tedious labor intensive exacting work. Materials were a shsde over P60 k so all in up a shade over P70 k for new net for this boat. I purchased all equipment in person.

I was 'advised' by my excitable pinoy friends to purchase a 30 hp Honda motor for the boat. Cost P30 k.

I over rode their protests & boight a 14 hp Loncin (chinese) for P13.5 k.

I'm glad I did. This motor is more than enough powerful & good quality for the price. Intetestingly you can buy compact 14 hp diesel motors that weigh about the same for P14.5 k I will try one of these next time as diesel would be ideal for this application.

AV.

Sam 14
09-26-14, 18:33
"ok dnt wori I'll find someone 2 acept you. Even if she is lesbian I hve so many lesbian friends" . . . "by the way you want 2 met her 2 morow? Actually I hve 2 friends that they want 2 met you too. . jeje".

Yes! See how that plays out.

Hutsori
09-27-14, 03:26
Just a PSA. If you are anywhere near the Makati Shangri La hotel right now (Sat am 27 SEP) there are many hundred good looking girls queued to interview with Qatar Airways. It's called a CV drop off, and it's open to anyone. I've already chatted with several girls and gotten numbers. "What's going on here? Oh, you're interviewing for a flight attendant job? Great! Good luck. Is the interview in English? It is? Would you like for me to ask you some interview questions for you to practice?

Day 2 is tomorrow from 9-12.

I learnt these interviews happen quite often and there are FA websites that post the info. I'm subscribed.

Member #4387
09-27-14, 04:32
Just a PSA. If you are anywhere near the Makati Shangri La hotel right now (Sat am 27 SEP) there are many hundred good looking girls queued to interview with Qatar Airways. It's called a CV drop off, and it's open to anyone. I've already chatted with several girls and gotten numbers. "What's going on here? Oh, you're interviewing for a flight attendant job? Great! Good luck. Is the interview in English? It is? Would you like for me to ask you some interview questions for you to practice?

Day 2 is tomorrow from 9-12.

I learnt these interviews happen quite often and there are FA websites that post the info. I'm subscribed.Great intel Huts this is useful info for knowing where to take a morning strall.

GoodEnough
09-27-14, 05:28
to all of you who depend on reasonable internet connections, a word of warning. it appears that one of the few international cables that connect this place to civilization has been cut, with the result that the normally deficient connections have been reduced, albeit intermittently, to something resembling a waxed string and a cambells soup can. for example, my purchase today of a cp airline ticket, which normally takes me 5 minutes, today took the better part of an hour. one article i read said that singapore has access to more than 20 cables, so the unavailability of one has barely affected the country's connection speed. i doubt that this backward excuse for a country is connected by more than three or four.

ge.

Slippery
09-28-14, 09:10
I'm happy to see that your opinion of the country has improved.

Lonely566
09-29-14, 11:52
I don't know what is going on with the dollar, but I like it!

Wicked Roger
09-30-14, 05:33
This from the Cebu Daily News about what happens when the pinay you 'love' turns on you. In this case the guy was acquited for obvious reasons as note in the article. Maybe we should all keep 'provocative' photos of our pinays.

Same happened to a good friend in the UAE and once he showed the police photos and video of the girl sucking his todger and more the claim she made was thrown out.

http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/43198/court-acquits-former-us-military-officer

Sam 14
09-30-14, 18:58
"The Philippine Constitution allows the accused to secure temporary liberty when the evidence of guilt against him or her is not strong". It didn't take a year to put together that remarkable piece of journalism, so obviously he was just now acquitted. It don't say exactly when he was arrested either, but if it was near the time of her "rescue", he was still locked up for 10 months? Damn. . Heads up before it gets too sour, huh? Better back up those pics AND add blue paper till it starts sweetening up again!

Slippery
09-30-14, 22:08
This from the Cebu Daily News about what happens when the pinay you 'love' turns on you. In this case the guy was acquited for obvious reasons as note in the article. Maybe we should all keep 'provocative' photos of our pinays.

Same happened to a good friend in the UAE and once he showed the police photos and video of the girl sucking his todger and more the claim she made was thrown out.

http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/43198/court-acquits-former-us-military-officerAnd now HE'll be charged with possession of pornography.

GoodEnough
10-01-14, 00:51
Don't know how many of you follow the daily news here, but recently the headlines have been dominated by alarms over the massive, evidently pervasive corruption of the police, particularly in the higher echelons of the department. The stories have highlighted everything from police involvement in robbery, kidnapping and extortion rings to more general ineptitude. Of course in typical Philippine style, the PNP chief, who lives in a million dollar house and drives a $90,000 vehicle, hasn't been charged, refuses to resign, and promises to do better. Plus ça change, plus que la même chose. (The more things change, the more they remain the same.).

GE.

Lonely566
10-01-14, 02:06
This from the Cebu Daily News about what happens when the pinay you 'love' turns on you. In this case the guy was acquited for obvious reasons as note in the article. Maybe we should all keep 'provocative' photos of our pinays.

Same happened to a good friend in the UAE and once he showed the police photos and video of the girl sucking his todger and more the claim she made was thrown out.

http://cebudailynews.inquirer.net/43198/court-acquits-former-us-military-officerWhen I was in Toledo, Cebu last year a Kano got picked up and put in jail for ****! **** of a girl HE had lived with for over one year! I was also in Camiguin where a long nose broke up.

With his live in lover. She went straight to the police and turned him in for smoking pot. HE was still sitting in jail when I left there a few weeks later. The feel I get is that the cops don't.

Care at all, if your guilty, you are revenue! My method is stay mobile. I'm always moving around. Had a few close calls which are documented in my ebook "Motorcycling in Mindanao" In.

My mind. It's luck. I was texting a girl I knew in Carcar and a text comes back: This is her BF, I'm coming over there to f**k you up!. Stay mobile. Too much can go wrong. Filipinas are just too vindictive.

Dg8787
10-01-14, 03:14
when i was in toledo, cebu last year a kano got picked up and put in jail for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)! [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a girl he had lived with for over one year! i was also in camiguin where a long nose broke up.

with his live in lover. she went straight to the police and turned him in for smoking pot. he was still sitting in jail when i left there a few weeks later. the feel i get is that the cops don't.

care at all, if your guilty, you are revenue! my method is stay mobile. i'm always moving around. had a few close calls which are documented in my ebook "motorcycling in mindanao" in.

my mind. it's luck. i was texting a girl i knew in carcar and a text comes back: this is her bf, i'm coming over there to f**k you up!. stay mobile. too much can go wrong. filipinas are just too vindictive.it doesn't just happen in phils!

Streetlooker
10-01-14, 05:01
I don't know what is going on with the dollar, but I like it!Lets see that dollar back up in the 50's and then its party time.

Slippery
10-01-14, 09:38
Jackson, are you going to continue to let this guy peddle his ebooks here?

Lonely566
10-01-14, 12:54
Jackson, are you going to continue to let this guy peddle his ebooks here?I thought a book written by a brother monger would be of interest to the group. It's not as if I'm trying to sell phones or tupper ware. I won't do it anymore now that I know it's verboten. But why does it upset you old timer? Am I getting more p*why than you? Je je je.

X Man
10-01-14, 15:22
thanks for the report. this post is unusually disjointed because of the software settings. it doesn't allow dashes, it replaces dashes with full stops. thanks for the post l566.


when i was in toledo, cebu last year a kano got picked up and put in jail for [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)! [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of a girl he had lived with for over one year! i was also in camiguin where a long nose broke up.

with his live in lover. she went straight to the police and turned him in for smoking pot. he was still sitting in jail when i left there a few weeks later. the feel i get is that the cops don't.

care at all, if your guilty, you are revenue! my method is stay mobile. i'm always moving around. had a few close calls which are documented in my ebook "motorcycling in mindanao" in.

my mind. it's luck. i was texting a girl i knew in carcar and a text comes back: this is her bf, i'm coming over there to f**k you up!. stay mobile. too much can go wrong. filipinas are just too vindictive.

Wicked Roger
10-01-14, 18:09
My mind. It's luck. I was texting a girl I knew in Carcar and a text comes back: This is her BF, I'm coming over there to f**k you up!. Stay mobile. Too much can go wrong. Filipinas are just too vindictive.A good friend received the following text from one of his ladies.

"Hi you are. , I am husband of. I am ex army and will cum and put gun up ass and kill you".

I found that very amusing as the guy did not have any idea where my friend was etc. As it turned out HE was the ex boyfriend of one of his favorites so goes to show pinoys are also terribly jealous and can threaten to do stupid things LOL.

Slippery
10-01-14, 22:57
I thought a book written by a brother monger would be of interest to the group. It's not as if I'm trying to sell phones or tupper ware. I won't do it anymore now that I know it's verboten. But why does it upset you old timer? Am I getting more p*why than you? Je je je.Yeah, that's got to be why. I live here and don't know how to get it. What an utterly stupid remark.

Mbsl65
10-02-14, 06:05
Jackson, are you going to continue to let this guy peddle his ebooks here?To be honest, I have not seen any sales pitch and his ebooks are quite cheap. It was a good read for me about his adventure in Ghana. When I will have a chance, I will read his Mindanao adventure too. My $0. 02.

Soapy Smith
10-02-14, 14:01
I find this discussion humorous in another way. I did check out Lonely's Mindanao e-book on Amazon. Personally I probably wouldn't buy it because I prefer getting my information filtered through numerous individual observers. We all carry lots of stuff in our heads that makes the mind a powerful editor over the video that reaches our eyes and ears in the here and now. So I find ISG helpful by virtue of the many, varied experiences that get recorded. Lonely's book may be informative, but it's only one guy's observations. No offense intended. I'd suggest the same caution about anything I write.

From the initial excerpt that Amazon provides I know that Lonely starts the book as though he is encountering Jesus on a beach (Camiguin Island, maybe?). So I credit him with a sense of humor but didn't read far enough to know how well the literary device works.

But quite aside from his soft salesmanship for the book on ISG, I find it interesting that, whereas I, and I assume others, keep our identities at arms-length from others on the forum, Lonely's face and name (or nom de plume) are on the cover of his book, and he connects himself to it here in the forum. So as it is, any one of us will know him if we pass him in a hotel lobby. I can't imagine living my mongering in that way.

I will probably never know what sort of tone he sets in the book, but I have often fantasized about writing an accurately detailed and balanced book that shows the real lives of prostitutes and mongers. As it is we have a few books by ex-prostitutes that often strike me as sensationalized and exaggerated in the interest of selling books. And on the other hand are the ridiculous "save the exploited prostitutes" documentaries, like the one a few years ago about AC created by a couple of naive, feminist professors from somewhere in the Canadian Maritimes.

What is needed, in my view, is a set of personal, candid essays that present actual life experiences--warts, rainbows, epiphanies and all--from both the woman's and the monger's viewpoint. The difficulty is that people capable of writing something like this well cannot afford to be associated with the subject matter for professional reasons. And in the meantime, except for those who have participated in it, most of the world has a distorted and (negatively) mythologized understanding of the world of sex for money.

WestCoast1
10-02-14, 14:14
I live here and don't know how to get it.Whew, thought it was only me that couldn't get some!

LuvAsianTang
10-02-14, 20:36
Hello fellow pooners, I'm going to be in manila mid October. I either need information on where to get viagra in manila or I need to find a reliable online drugstore that can airmail some viagra to me here in america in a week.

Any intel will be much appreciated, thanks in advance, LAT.

Socker
10-02-14, 22:34
having been to patts four years in a row, was thinking about a change of venue and pi came to mind. just in general terms; are the two even remotely the same. we know patts and feel very safe where we stay and in the areas we venture into. having no knowledge of pi; any input on what makes pi a consideration would appreciated. also, it's not all about saving money at all; just a change of scenery. how do the girls, prices, locale and accommodations compare?

thanks in advance. also, if anyone has questions about patts, please feel free to ask.okay nixon here's my opinion on the pattaya vs the pi or maybe the pi vs thailand. i am talking in general about bargirls, freelancers, etc. i don't pursue the dating site action.

the 2 countries are of course apples and oranges and the pi is an orange w / thorns, the fruit is less expensive (in the pi) and sweeter on the inside but more trouble lurks there. i went to pattaya one time in 2010 and haven't been back there after taking my first trip to the pi. now i always go to the pi for my annual asian fuckathon even though the visual quality is a little less than thailand, there is something about the pi.

my pi rotation focuses on ac (1), cebu and then manila and all 3 cities offer a different mongering scene. ac has the quantity and low prices, it's a gritty dirty place w / fields avenue on one end and the perimeter rd bars on the other, a 1/2 mile apart, one long ass street. the ac ladies are more giving w / their time and i enjoy their personalities more than their big city peers. in cebu and manila the ladies are much prettier in general and much more costly, but all 3 places have interesting scenes. if you have the time, there are always bargains but for 2 week millionaires it's harder to find them.

if you spend some time reading the cebu and manila forums (go back a year or more) you get the specifics about each place. the ac forum (here) is used as a general forum so you might have to go to another board to get relevant ac information. there are raids (less lately) and more scams, pickpockets, aggressive kids that can swarm a guy but there are remedies for all these issues. stay away from the bad areas and that includes perimeter rd at night.

in makati (burgos street) it's as safe as can be w / burgos street full of bars w / very good looking women, pricey though. the freelancer scene on burgos is a blast, full of decent or better action after 10 pm, very safe. alright, there's just too much info and i don't have the time for every detail, good luck.

burgos freelancers. these 2 approached and told me they wanted to suck my dick. i asked, are you any good? they said, we're the best.

turns out they were for around 3000 p the both.

Lonely566
10-03-14, 00:47
Yes Skip, putting my face on the cover has caused me lots of Paparazzi problems, but I enjoy the fame. Glad you liked the book. The book is supposed to be linked to about 300 lbs of.

Porn I filmed during the trip. I haven't seen the book so I don't know if my editor got it in there as ordered. But you can PM me for the link if it's not in the book. The link also includes.

Film from the Ghana trip. I will be going to a different country this year. 5 part series, 5 different countries.

A personal note: I think in our business we need to be careful not to get in a rut. An small Cuban island got me. I had such a great time that I continued to return, over and over to the.

Neglect of the rest of the world. Like the guy in the post just below mine. I congratulate him on breaking out of his mold. There are beautiful ladies waiting for us all around the world.

Don't get bogged down. Stay mobile.

Slippery
10-03-14, 03:56
Hello fellow pooners, I'm going to be in manila mid October. I either need information on where to get viagra in manila or I need to find a reliable online drugstore that can airmail some viagra to me here in america in a week.

Any intel will be much appreciated, thanks in advance, LAT.Walk down any street in Ermita or Malate. Its the same stuff you'll get from an Indian online pharmacy. In the alternative, depending on what country you're in, you can get an online consultation from a physician, pay the premium price and have the real stuff delivered to your door in 24 hours. Some have remarked that they've just walked into drug stores here and bought it. I never tried that.

Slippery
10-03-14, 04:10
It's 11:06 am My GF has been on the phone for 5 hours and 6 minutes waiting to speak to a Smart customer service representative. This entire country is beyond consumer fraud. Any state AG's office in the United States would shut Smart down in a heartbeat if they did business like that there. And these people just take it. As long as there's singing and dancing on TV, they're happy. Oh, and I forgot the rice, Red Horse and some poon tang. Yet another reason why foreigners aren't allowed to own guns here.

Amavida
10-03-14, 04:17
To be honest, I have not seen any sales pitch<snip.>Mentioning it once is cheeky but does no harm. Mentioning it repeatedly in successive posts is for all intents & purposes, Unsolicited Commercial Advertising. SPAM.

AV.

Amavida
10-03-14, 04:20
It's 11:06 am My GF has been on the phone for 5 hours and 6 minutes waiting to speak to a Smart customer service representative. This entire country is beyond consumer fraud. Any state AG's office in the United States would shut Smart down in a heartbeat if they did business like that there. <snip>You obviously have not had to deal with Telco's in Australia then. Phils is not alone in this regard. Be thankful for your blessings, don't sweat the small stuff.

AV.

Amavida
10-03-14, 04:26
Walk down any street in Ermita or Malate. Its the same stuff you'll get from an Indian online pharmacy. In the alternative, depending on what country you're in, you can get an online consultation from a physician, pay the premium price and have the real stuff delivered to your door in 24 hours. Some have remarked that they've just walked into drug stores here and bought it. I never tried that.As mentioned recently, Cialis has a supply problem in the Phils. Street Cialis is currently fake. Street Viagra is not fake.
Mercury drug stores are likely to ask a prescription but a smile & promise to bring it next time can often get you off the hook. Watson's is far less strict but you can be asked. Prices in drug stores are way above street prices. You will be asked P1000 on the street but P300 for a box of V is appropriate.

AV.

Econo Tech
10-03-14, 15:40
It's 11:06 am My GF has been on the phone for 5 hours and 6 minutes waiting to speak to a Smart customer service representative. This entire country is beyond consumer fraud. Any state AG's office in the United States would shut Smart down in a heartbeat if they did business like that there..But in Philippines telcos own the politicians who own all the laws.

Or a dozen injunctions will be filed, a-la Marcos family and nobody will remember anything after a while.

How can they enforce anything?

P.S. Strangely recently Generics Pharmacy claimed I needed a prescription for TigerFil.

Commonglass
10-06-14, 05:05
I'm coming to Manila from the US next month. Everything I need will fit into a small overheard bag, which leaves me an empty suitcase to bring things in. Is there anything that I can bring that I can easily sell in the Philippines? I bought an unlocked iPhone 6 from the Apple Store. I still have lots of space. Anything suggestions? I have a friend who financed an entire trip to Africa with Apple products. I'd love to make some cash while I'm traveling. (No drugs, of course.).

GoodEnough
10-06-14, 05:30
I'm coming to Manila from the US next month. Everything I need will fit into a small overheard bag, which leaves me an empty suitcase to bring things in. Is there anything that I can bring that I can easily sell in the Philippines? I bought an unlocked iPhone 6 from the Apple Store. I still have lots of space. Anything suggestions? I have a friend who financed an entire trip to Africa with Apple products. I'd love to make some cash while I'm traveling. (No drugs, of course.).I've got an iPhone 6 and, because it's not yet available here, it attracts lots of attention from people who notice it. I'm guessing that on a 64 or 128 GB model you could likely make $400-500 but I'm only guessing. The premium will of course disappear once the phones start selling here, which I'm told by the staff of my local PowerMac center will likely be in December. You could advertise the phone before you come to see if there's any interest. There's a local service here called Lozada that's offering phones, doubtless brought in from elsewhere on a COD basis. Other than the iPhone 6, Apple product are readily available.

GE.

Hutsori
10-06-14, 11:04
I've got an iPhone 6 and, because it's not yet available here, it attracts lots of attention from people who notice it. I'm guessing that on a 64 or 128 GB model you could likely make $400-500 but I'm only guessing. The premium will of course disappear once the phones start selling here, which I'm told by the staff of my local PowerMac center will likely be in December. You could advertise the phone before you come to see if there's any interest. There's a local service here called Lozada that's offering phones, doubtless brought in from elsewhere on a COD basis. Other than the iPhone 6, Apple product are readily available.

GE.Some of the online coupon sites were offering very limited quantities the other day.

6.
http://www.ensogo.com.ph/products/apple-iphone-6-in-3-variants-09232014.html?utm_source=BestSellerNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Electronics&popup=false&sc_src=email_1099140&sc_eh=27fce4de8f9919a21&sc_customer=

Valid for one of these Apple iPhone 6.
Apple iPhone 6 16 GB for P47399 (valued at P83000).
Apple iPhone 6 64 GB for P51999 (valued at P89000).
Apple iPhone 6 128 GB for P54399 (valued at P96000).

6 plus.
http://www.ensogo.com.ph/products/apple-iphone-6-plus-09232014.html?utm_source=BestSellerNewsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Electronics&popup=false&sc_src=email_1099140&sc_eh=27fce4de8f9919a21&sc_customer=

Valid for one of these Apple iPhone 6 Plus.
Apple iPhone 6 Plus 16 GB for P69999 (valued at P120000).
Apple iPhone 6 Plus 64 GB for P76999 (valued at P140000).
Apple iPhone 6 Plus 128 GB for P83399 (valued at P168000).

Is a 128 GB 6 plus really "valued" at approx. $4000?

GoodEnough
10-06-14, 22:41
Just saw a short post on Dragon Slayer's forum repeating a news story from yesterday regarding the murder of two older Swiss tourists at a beach resort in Misamis Oriental. Both guys were older, one 67 and the other 70 something, and both were with (presumably younger) Filipinas. The two ken were killed in broad daylight in the parking lot of a resort, and, surprise, the gunmen escaped.

Misamis is not one of the areas known for excessive violence and as an older foreigner, this story causes me sooe concern. I've just checked so, e of the published articles, which are sparse on any details, but they do confirm that this happened.

GE.

Amanut
10-06-14, 23:27
Just saw a short post on Dragon Slayer's forum repeating a news story from yesterday regarding the murder of two older Swiss tourists at a beach resort in Misamis Oriental. Both guys were older, one 67 and the other 70 something, and both were with (presumably younger) Filipinas. The two ken were killed in broad daylight in the parking lot of a resort, and, surprise, the gunmen escaped.

Misamis is not one of the areas known for excessive violence and as an older foreigner, this story causes me sooe concern. I've just checked so, e of the published articles, which are sparse on any details, but they do confirm that this happened.

GE.http://www.mindanews.com/top-stories/2014/10/05/2-swiss-nationals-gunned-down-in-opol-misamis-oriental/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=2-swiss-nationals-gunned-down-in-opol-misamis-oriental

KongKing
10-07-14, 02:48
Both guys were older, one 67 and the other 70 something, and both were with (presumably younger) Filipinas. The two ken were killed in broad daylight in the parking lot of a resort, and, surprise, the gunmen escaped.
Misamis is not one of the areas known for excessive violence and as an older foreigner, this story causes me some concern.GE.Yes, they were younger Filipina partners, and from the vibes I have heard a love triangle was involved. Looks like a targeted killing. A similar foreigner (Michael Turner) killing occurred in the same Opol CdO locality two years ago, unsolved, and again the hallmarks of a targeted killing. The killers were unmasked, used high power weapons, with silencer. No robbery was involved and the gunmen apparently fled in a taxi. I wonder if they paid the meter.

The local Vice Governor Joey Pelaez posted: "We condemn the shooting of foreign guests in the province of Misamis Oriental. We call on the Philippine National Police to immediately work on the apprehension of the perpetrators of this dastardly act. " Let's hope so. Judging from some of the recent Philippines crimes the PNP could well start by looking within its own ranks.

It can be a dangerous region. In July last year, militants from a little-known al-Qaida-inspired group called Khilafa Islamiyah Mindanao are the ones suspected of detonating a bomb in Cagayan de Oro that killed eight people and wounded dozens of others in a crowded downtown bar.

Be alert and aware.

Questor55
10-07-14, 22:48
Kongking's report is probably pretty accurate, regarding these two murders. Interesting how there is very little mention in the national press! Don't want to upset the tourists, do we? Obviously a targeted hit and no robbery associated with the crime. That the getaway vehicle was a taxi is bizarre. Suggests that someone 'untouchable' and therefore not concerned about police inquiries could be involved. This one strikes close to home, as I've spent quite a bit of time in CDO, dating a number of young Filipinas. The reality is that this is a dangerous country and so-called 'law enforcement' is not going to protect us. "Pay your money and take your chance"!

KongKing
10-08-14, 05:33
The reality is that this is a dangerous country and so-called 'law enforcement' is not going to protect us. "Pay your money and take your chance"!A P100,000 reward has been posted today for information that leads to the arrest of the slayers.

See: http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cagayan-de-oro/local-news/2014/10/08/guv-offers-p100000-reward-info-swiss-killers-369836.

More information is given on the background to the slaying of the two Swiss foreigners.

But the process of crime investigation and justice is slow in the Philippines. It is now 4 days since the killings and it seems the police are still to do the basic initial crime investigations. To quote from this press article:

-"aside from the cooperation of the beach resort owners to provide authorities with copies of the CCTV footage that could help in identifying the killers, the task group is also making attempts at getting vital information from the Swiss victims' Filipino female partners. ".

-"the task group has yet to obtain affidavits from them (the partners)".

-"SOCO has yet to determine the exact number of bullets fired by the gunmen".

-"the police are still composing an artist's sketch of the suspects based on the accounts of the witnesses".

Justice moves slowly, if at all, in the Philippines; vis the Michael Turner murder at the same spot 3 years ago and the Maguindanao massacre of 58 people.

Dg8787
10-08-14, 06:04
Kongking's report is probably pretty accurate, regarding these two murders. Interesting how there is very little mention in the national press! Don't want to upset the tourists, do we? Obviously a targeted hit and no robbery associated with the crime. That the getaway vehicle was a taxi is bizarre. Suggests that someone 'untouchable' and therefore not concerned about police inquiries could be involved. This one strikes close to home, as I've spent quite a bit of time in CDO, dating a number of young Filipinas. The reality is that this is a dangerous country and so-called 'law enforcement' is not going to protect us. "Pay your money and take your chance"!Happens everyday in every country. Love triangle killing.

GoodEnough
10-08-14, 06:09
Yes, they were younger Filipina partners, and from the vibes I have heard a love triangle was involved. Looks like a targeted killing. A similar foreigner (Michael Turner) killing occurred in the same Opol CdO locality two years ago, unsolved, and again the hallmarks of a targeted killing. The killers were unmasked, used high power weapons, with silencer. No robbery was involved and the gunmen apparently fled in a taxi. I wonder if they paid the meter.

The local Vice Governor Joey Pelaez posted: "We condemn the shooting of foreign guests in the province of Misamis Oriental. We call on the Philippine National Police to immediately work on the apprehension of the perpetrators of this dastardly act. " Let's hope so. Judging from some of the recent Philippines crimes the PNP could well start by looking within its own ranks.

It can be a dangerous region. In July last year, militants from a little-known al-Qaida-inspired group called Khilafa Islamiyah Mindanao are the ones suspected of detonating a bomb in Cagayan de Oro that killed eight people and wounded dozens of others in a crowded downtown bar.

Be alert and aware.The fact is, there's no real criminal justice system here and everyone knows it. This is why the residents of Davao applaud the Mayor's approach to self-administered justice. That is, HE finds the crooks and then kills them. Works for me.

GE.

GoodEnough
10-08-14, 06:31
Yesterday, I showed up at the Davao airport for my weekly trip to my least favorite city, Manila. As is usual for me, the Cebu Pacifc flight boarded and left on time, and about 90 minutes later we were over Manila, which is when the fun began. Remember that the Manila airport can only use one runway at a time, and has ground equipment that's so old replacement parts are no longer available, so under the best of circumstances, it can't manage more than a single take-off or landing in less than about 10 minutes--as compared to a take-off or landing every 15 seconds or so common in modern airports. So, as usual, we began to circle. After about 10 minutes, the Captain announced that we were number 20 for landing and he had no idea how long it would take to get on the ground. About 10 minutes later, he got back on the PA and announced , in the interest of passenger safety, he would divert to Clark, refuel there, and then try again for Manila.

So we landed at Clark about two and a half hours after taking off from Davao, and were then told by the crew that severe thunderstorms over Manila had turned airline schedules into a shambles. I asked approximately how long the Captain thought it would take us to refuel, fly to Manila and then actually land. He had no idea, though was quite pleasant about it. I then asked if we could debark at Clark and make our own way to Manila. He responded that so long as we had no checked bags he had no problem with it, and so about 23 of us to decided to take that option. However, we were held on the plane for another 30 minutes or so, while CP arranged for a bus to take us to the terminal. Getting onto the bus was when the real fun started as evidently the crew thought there should be one more person on the bus than actually showed up. They spent another 30 minutes trying to find the person.

Eventually, we were taken to the terminal and left to our own devices. I wound up getting the last apartment at Fields Plaza, which is owned by ABC, and all of the hotel rooms were taken. This morning I had to hire a car and driver to take me to Makati, where I arrived approximately 24 hours after having left Davao. More fun in the Philippines.

GE.

Dg8787
10-08-14, 06:52
Yesterday, I showed up at the Davao airport for my weekly trip to my least favorite city, Manila. As is usual for me, the Cebu Pacifc flight boarded and left on time, and about 90 minutes later we were over Manila, which is when the fun began. Remember that the Manila airport can only use one runway at a time, and has ground equipment that's so old replacement parts are no longer available, so under the best of circumstances, it can't manage more than a single take-off or landing in less than about 10 minutes--as compared to a take-off or landing every 15 seconds or so common in modern airports. So, as usual, we began to circle. After about 10 minutes, the Captain announced that we were number 20 for landing and he had no idea how long it would take to get on the ground. About 10 minutes later, he got back on the PA and announced , in the interest of passenger safety, he would divert to Clark, refuel there, and then try again for Manila.

So we landed at Clark about two and a half hours after taking off from Davao, and were then told by the crew that severe thunderstorms over Manila had turned airline schedules into a shambles. I asked approximately how long the Captain thought it would take us to refuel, fly to Manila and then actually land. He had no idea, though was quite pleasant about it. I then asked if we could debark at Clark and make our own way to Manila. He responded that so long as we had no checked bags he had no problem with it, and so about 23 of us to decided to take that option. However, we were held on the plane for another 30 minutes or so, while CP arranged for a bus to take us to the terminal. Getting onto the bus was when the real fun started as evidently the crew thought there should be one more person on the bus than actually showed up. They spent another 30 minutes trying to find the person.

Eventually, we were taken to the terminal and left to our own devices. I wound up getting the last apartment at Fields Plaza, which is owned by ABC, and all of the hotel rooms were taken. This morning I had to hire a car and driver to take me to Makati, where I arrived approximately 24 hours after having left Davao. More fun in the Philippines.

GE.With all due respect I am trying to understand the point of your story.

If you changed Manila to Houston; Clark to Austin; Cebu Pacific to United Airlines, then I have been on the same flight.

Hutsori
10-08-14, 07:54
But the process of crime investigation and justice is slow in the Philippines.What ever happened to those four wealthy lads charged with murdering the husband, a USMC officer I recall, of a US embassy employee in Bel Air, Makati about 2 years ago? The entire murder was captured on CCTV and broadcast to the nation. They still walking free?

Slippery
10-08-14, 09:23
What ever happened to those four wealthy lads charged with murdering the husband, a USMC officer I recall, of a US embassy employee in Bel Air, Makati about 2 years ago? The entire murder was captured on CCTV and broadcast to the nation. They still walking free?They bonded out about 6 months ago. It doesn't matter if it was recorded on CCTV. They got dissed by a foreigner. Privileged little a $$holes daddys are paying big time. He was the husband of a USA Embassy official. She's getting about as much help from Obama as Chris Smith did in Benghazi.

Mogwai
10-08-14, 09:47
The fact is, there's no real criminal justice system here and everyone knows it. This is why the residents of Davao applaud the Mayor's approach to self-administered justice. That is, HE finds the crooks and then kills them. Works for me. GE.Works for you? Really? You call that justice? Scary...

Nightrider1
10-08-14, 11:08
Works for you? Really? You call that justice? Scary...Well if you lived in Phil as long as Good Enough has and seen all the things HE has seen in his tenure there you would understand where HE is coming from. Of course Mayor Duente is out of line but 20 years ago Davao was a VERY unsafe city and now from all the visits I have taken there since 2004 it is one of the cleanest safest cities in Phil. The justice system in that country is abominable, just look at the case of all the journalist killed in Catabato about 4 years ago. It is still not resolved with any prison terms for the guilty parties.

Wicked Roger
10-08-14, 11:16
Works for you? Really? You call that justice? Scary...Mogawi,

Come and live her and it may help you better understand GE's response.

For example, apart from the 8 cops who held up a car on EDSA to steal cash, we have 12 cops in Cebu who have administrative cases against them for a number of years (extortion, use of firearms) - but not yet dismissed still working, 3 cops involved in murders in Visayas, 7 cops involved in another alleged murder of a well know lawyer, a cop behind the alleged murder of a prominent businessman (the Davao Mayor ordered that policeman to stand down. Unlike many other in a such a position).

I could go on and on but I won't. Life is cheap here (see the FR about the daylight murder of 2 Swiss nationals in CDO).

The mayor is regarded as the best bet for 2016 as he is tough. No one I know here has a bad word for him, all applaud the fact HE does something and wish he stands for election as they would vote for him.

So far 6 million people have signed a petition to ask him to reconsider his comment HE would never stand. But in a recent interview HE gave a hypothetical view of life in the Philippine under his Presidency. It would scare many of ruling elite / families but was welcomed by those who heard it and the comments in the press from readers were very supportive.

Sometimes western democracy as we understand it does not work. A benevolent tyrant is better (look at the Middle East now without Saddam, Ghaddafi, Asad (to a degree)) and hat was then Yugoslavia.

So I fully understand GE's viewpoint on this. Well said GE.

Wicked Roger
10-08-14, 11:21
They bonded out about 6 months ago. It doesn't matter if it was recorded on CCTV. They got dissed by a foreigner. Privileged little a $$holes daddys are paying big time. He was the husband of a USA Embassy official. She's getting about as much help from Obama as Chris Smith did in Benghazi.Also I think some have now moved to the USA to study forever LOL.

The judge said the CCTV was not strong enough evidence which kind of shocked a lot of people (prosecution especially as this was the key evidence. Look on You Tube and decide yourself). And one of the accused daddies was complaining to PNoy (and the media) that his on was in a cell with bad and dangerous men (of course he should be treated like a princess instead LOL).

As you said Slippery. Rich kids so different laws.

Wicked Roger
10-08-14, 11:27
Yesterday, I showed up at the Davao airport for my weekly trip to my least favorite city, Manila. As is usual for me, the Cebu Pacifc flight boarded and left on time, and about 90 minutes later we were over Manila, which is when the fun began. Remember that the Manila airport can only use one runway at a time, and has ground equipment that's so old replacement parts are no longer available, so under the best of circumstances, it can't manage more than a single take-off or landing in less than about 10 minutes--as compared to a take-off or landing every 15 seconds or so common in modern airports. More fun in the Philippines.

GEThis is why I now only take morning flights to Manila less chance of a screw up. I took an evening flight, to Cebu, was told it was cancelled and no seat left on any other flight that night so "you need find hotel but we can't pay sir".

Manila again in the worlds worst airports and the government keeps saying be patient we are getting better. But is run by idiots.

GE. You see PNoy appointed his cousin to Clark airport board. Commentary in press was it was not nepotism despite him being young and having no airline / airport experience. Ces't la vie GE.

WestCoast1
10-08-14, 14:53
Works for you? Really? You call that justice? Scary...It works for me. When the justice system of authority breaks down, it will be picked up in some other way. Vigilante-ism, regional military, etc. The best hope is for a benevolent dictator (Davao's mayor maybe). Davao's mayor is better than the alternative broken CJ system (IMHO).

Wicked Roger
10-08-14, 15:07
It works for me. When the justice system of authority breaks down, it will be picked up in some other way. Vigilante-ism, regional military, etc. The best hope is for a benevolent dictator (Davao's mayor maybe). Davao's mayor is better than the alternative broken CJ system (IMHO).Forgot to mention Mog.

In this country it can take 10+ years for justice so the cops etc know this and don't care as until they get to court they won't stand down and continue to extort, kill etc As another poster said, the massacre victims in 2009 (Google it) still wait a trial. And no one seems able to say to the 54 families when it will happen.

One case of plunder was thrown out after 10 years as the useless judiciary system had not prepared / presented the case to the courts so the alleged guilty walked free. Another person (mayor) has 2 plunder charges against her for bank fraud (huge fraud) but is still mayor.

So when the Davao mayor says he will kill them (such as rice smugglers while in a senate hearing) people like him. Odd for you and many others (including me who hails from a 'democratic' country where people tend to do the right thing) but as I said sometimes your style won't work so wild west is best LOL.

Slippery
10-08-14, 22:40
Also I think some have now moved to the USA to study forever LOL.

The judge said the CCTV was not strong enough evidence which kind of shocked a lot of people (prosecution especially as this was the key evidence. Look on You Tube and decide yourself). And one of the accused daddies was complaining to PNoy (and the media) that his on was in a cell with bad and dangerous men (of course he should be treated like a princess instead LOL).

As you said Slippery. Rich kids so different laws.Roger, you know as well as I do that Obama would never permit a murder to just walk into the United States. They wade in.

Amavida
10-09-14, 01:11
Forgot to mention Mog.

In this country it can take 10+ years for justice so the cops etc know this and don't care as until they get to court they won't stand down and continue to extort, kill etc As another poster said, the massacre victims in 2009 (Google it) still wait a trial. And no one seems able to say to the 54 families when it will happen.

One case of plunder was thrown out after 10 years as the useless judiciary system had not prepared / presented the case to the courts so the alleged guilty walked free. Another person (mayor) has 2 plunder charges against her for bank fraud (huge fraud) but is still mayor.

So when the Davao mayor says he will kill them (such as rice smugglers while in a senate hearing) people like him. Odd for you and many others (including me who hails from a 'democratic' country where people tend to do the right thing) but as I said sometimes your style won't work so wild west is best LOL.Sorry to butt in here WR. This kind of populism is very understandable. Those of us who make this place home are just as frustrated with the situation as the locals. Unfortunately benevolent dictators don't _stay_ benevolent once in power. Marcos is still well thought of by many here, he did good things in his early presidency before the power / money got to him. The place has rampant corruption already. God know's how much worse it would be under Davao's mayor using his iron fist policies. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to know that when I visit Davao, the local mayor kicks criminal ass big time. But who is to say that every extra judicial killing carried out by him is justified. How many innocents have been slaughtered along the way? How soon into his hypothetical presidency before HE does a Gloria and starts bumping off political rivals. Nah, I'll look for a better solution thanks.

Hopefully the economic bubble lasts long enough to raise living standards / education / expectations sufficiently for a grass roots change in their society here. I'm not holding my breathe on that but I remain optimistic that some day this crazy little archipelago will haul itself up by its boot straps.

Let's see.

AV.

Red Kilt
10-09-14, 05:43
Sorry to butt in here WR. This kind of populism is very understandable. Those of us who make this place home are just as frustrated with the situation as the locals. Unfortunately benevolent dictators don't _stay_ benevolent once in power. Marcos is still well thought of by many here, he did good things in his early presidency before the power / money got to him. The place has rampant corruption already. God know's how much worse it would be under Davao's mayor using his iron fist policies. Don't get me wrong, it's nice to know that when I visit Davao, the local mayor kicks criminal ass big time. But who is to say that every extra judicial killing carried out by him is justified. How many innocents have been slaughtered along the way? How soon into his hypothetical presidency before HE does a Gloria and starts bumping off political rivals. Nah, I'll look for a better solution thanks.

Hopefully the economic bubble lasts long enough to raise living standards / education / expectations sufficiently for a grass roots change in their society here. I'm not holding my breathe on that but I remain optimistic that some day this crazy little archipelago will haul itself up by its boot straps. I am with AV all the way on this. Very eloquent expression of my views too.

Hutsori
10-09-14, 06:29
Just a PSA: Republiq at Resorts World is now closed. A new club named "Universe" launches tonight next door. Open to the public this weekend. Door is p500. Table rates will be from p4k to p20k, will vary by night of week.

Wicked Roger
10-09-14, 07:35
This kind of populism is very understandable. Those of us who make this place home are just as frustrated with the situation as the locals. Unfortunately benevolent dictators don't _stay_ benevolent once in power. Marcos is still well thought of by many here, he did good things in his early presidency before the power / money got to him. The place has rampant corruption already. God know's how much worse it would be under Davao's mayor using his iron fist policies. But who is to say that every extra judicial killing carried out by him is justified. How many innocents have been slaughtered along the way? How soon into his hypothetical presidency before HE does a Gloria and starts bumping off political rivals. Nah, I'll look for a better solution thanks.

Hopefully the economic bubble lasts long enough to raise living standards / education / expectations sufficiently for a grass roots change in their society here..I would agree, but I speak to a lot of people here including air crew (am always on a plane to and form Manila) about heir own country. One said her parents wish Marcos was back. I expressed horror but her logic was "HE was very bad, HE stole but we has good schools, hospital etc. Now there are thousands of Marcos type people all stealing and we have nothing and we are never going to get better". They loom at Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia etc with envy and ask how can it be that the Philippines has slipped so low.

That logic is understandable IMHO.

All the things you say are correct (and RK is also right) I am just saying what hear. And change from the status quo could easily be a drastic shift to something that could in the end be far worse but we all know, when things are not great at the moment people look for 'deliverance' and hope for the immediate term, whoever it may be (eg look at Hitler. Complete nut head, evil bastard but everyone loved him as HE was a drastic change from the then status quo and promised a better life).

I hope things get better for the everyday pinoy and the grass roots will improve and change everyone's lot but I also don't hold my breathe.

Am just stating facts and what I am told by many I speak and socialize with who see the gun totting Davao mayor as (currently) this country's best choice for change / salvation from the current mess (whether we like it or not).

X Man
10-09-14, 16:12
That seems a bit steep. If you just order a drink and wander around, is that okay? Are there free seats on the perimeter? That is my preferred modus operandi if I don't have a date. Thanks for the update.


Just a PSA: Republiq at Resorts World is now closed. A new club named "Universe" launches tonight next door. Open to the public this weekend. Door is p500. Table rates will be from p4k to p20k, will vary by night of week.

X Man
10-09-14, 16:15
Have you met AV? I've never met anyone who has met him.


I am with AV all the way on this. Very eloquent expression of my views too.

Questor55
10-09-14, 20:03
Hard to believe, but this is a particularly bad month to be Swiss in Mindanao. Report in today's Manila Times that a 23 year old Swiss, Forian Mayer, was killed in Surigao City. Robbery apparently not the motive. That makes three Swiss nationals murdered in Mindanao this week alone!

GoodEnough
10-09-14, 23:00
I understand AV's point, and don't disagree, as I'm a strong civil libertarian. However, the practice of civil liberties and functional government institutions presupposes, I think, the existence of a functional democracy, which is far from the reality here. This is, above all else, a feudal society and "strong men" (and in some cases women) rule with impunity throughout the country. Perhaps benevolent tyrants are the best that can be hoped for here. Many foreigners who live here, myself included, think first of their own safety, and worry less as time goes by, about the absolute failure of this country to develop functional democratic institutions, which I believe will never emerge. I would also argue that economic development in other, more prosperous ASEAN countries has proceeded under the aegis of more or less benevolent strong men. I'm thinking here of Singapore and to an extent, Malaysia, both of which outstrip the Philipines by several orders of magnitude, came have developed under virtual one party rule.

So, in a pragmatic world, in which the ideal development path is closed, a Duterte is, I think, about the best that this place can do. In the ten plus years that I've been here, there's been no visible progress in the emergence of true democracy, and the country has slipped ever further behind its neighbors. Perhaps I'm the victim of the cynicism that accompanies growing older, but I don't believe that the basic nature of this place will ever change.

GE.

WhatsUrName
10-10-14, 01:06
gentlemen,

thanks for all the great information from the past year. i am planning an upcoming trip to the phils, and had a question that i don't think i have ever seen on isg before.

my question is about the identification that would likely be carried by freelancers in la caf and other similar venues (caf havana, malls). i am a little paranoid about taking out a woman who is lying about her age and actually under 18.

i do appreciate that fake ids are likely fairly easily obtained. in addition, even checking for identification probably will not protect me from a corrupt cop (whether a real cop or not) intent on scamming me. in the past, i have carded fls and gotten stuff like library cards and student ids. however, considering the latest static about **** scams, i am thinking it would be wise to educate myself about this subject and be a little more cautious.

i did a little research and found the philippine unified multi purpose identification card (see attachment). is this type of identification normally carried by most people? i would imagine that even a la caf freelancer would have some type of government issued identification. probably not a passport or drivers license, but something.

what are the most likely forms of official identification that i would find in la caf or robinson mall?

thanks in advance.

Hutsori
10-10-14, 05:42
gentlemen,

thanks for all the great information from the past year. i am planning an upcoming trip to the phils, and had a question that i don't think i have ever seen on isg before.

my question is about the identification that would likely be carried by freelancers in la caf and other similar venues (caf havana, malls). i am a little paranoid about taking out a woman who is lying about her age and actually under 18.

i do appreciate that fake ids are likely fairly easily obtained. in addition, even checking for identification probably will not protect me from a corrupt cop (whether a real cop or not) intent on scamming me. in the past, i have carded fls and gotten stuff like library cards and student ids. however, considering the latest static about **** scams, i am thinking it would be wise to educate myself about this subject and be a little more cautious.

i did a little research and found the philippine unified multi purpose identification card (see attachment). is this type of identification normally carried by most people? i would imagine that even a la caf freelancer would have some type of government issued identification. probably not a passport or drivers license, but something.

what are the most likely forms of official identification that i would find in la caf or robinson mall?

thanks in advance.that's a good question and i know it was discussed here a long while ago. i have experienced walking in to lac with girl who was stopped by the guard and asked for id. he didn't like her id and wouldn't permit her entrance. fwiw you may take some comfort knowing that lac attempts to prevent the ****d from entering; of course if they get it wrong it's you who bears the consequence solely. this also happened once when entering a nightclub. the unfamiliar-to-me ids i've seen are the barangay id and the postal id. i have no idea how to determine legit from fake.

Amavida
10-10-14, 23:39
I would agree, but I speak to a lot of people here including air crew (am always on a plane to and form Manila) about heir own country. One said her parents wish Marcos was back. I expressed horror but her logic was "HE was very bad, HE stole but we has good schools, hospital etc. Now there are thousands of Marcos type people all stealing and we have nothing and we are never going to get better". They loom at Singapore, Thailand, Vietnam, Malaysia etc with envy and ask how can it be that the Philippines has slipped so low.

That logic is understandable IMHO.

All the things you say are correct (and RK is also right) I am just saying what hear. And change from the status quo could easily be a drastic shift to something that could in the end be far worse but we all know, when things are not great at the moment people look for 'deliverance' and hope for the immediate term, whoever it may be (eg look at Hitler. Complete nut head, evil bastard but everyone loved him as HE was a drastic change from the then status quo and promised a better life).

I hope things get better for the everyday pinoy and the grass roots will improve and change everyone's lot but I also don't hold my breathe.

Am just stating facts and what I am told by many I speak and socialize with who see the gun totting Davao mayor as (currently) this country's best choice for change / salvation from the current mess (whether we like it or not).Absolutely Roge. I hear the same things yes. Your points are valid. We are on the same page about this.

AV.

Amavida
10-11-14, 00:04
I understand AV's point, and don't disagree, as I'm a strong civil libertarian. However, the practice of civil liberties and functional government institutions presupposes, I think, the existence of a functional democracy, which is far from the reality here. This is, above all else, a feudal society and "strong men" (and in some cases women) rule with impunity throughout the country. Perhaps benevolent tyrants are the best that can be hoped for here. Many foreigners who live here, myself included, think first of their own safety, and worry less as time goes by, about the absolute failure of this country to develop functional democratic institutions, which I believe will never emerge. I would also argue that economic development in other, more prosperous ASEAN countries has proceeded under the aegis of more or less benevolent strong men. I'm thinking here of Singapore and to an extent, Malaysia, both of which outstrip the Philipines by several orders of magnitude, came have developed under virtual one party rule.

So, in a pragmatic world, in which the ideal development path is closed, a Duterte is, I think, about the best that this place can do. In the ten plus years that I've been here, there's been no visible progress in the emergence of true democracy, and the country has slipped ever further behind its neighbors. Perhaps I'm the victim of the cynicism that accompanies growing older, but I don't believe that the basic nature of this place will ever change.

GE.Yourself, WR & others make valid points. The question then becomes how likely is the benevolent dictator scenario to materialise? As you guys point out many of the disenfranchised locals are frustrated. Recent history shows that populism is a strong factor in PI politics. Its quite possible that Rodrigo Duterte could find his way into the presidency. Stranger things have happened. <cough Erap<cough . Should this come to pass how likely then would HE be able to seize sufficient power to exact any fundamental lasting change? My guess is, at this point in time, very unlikely. Regrettably I think things will have to get a lot worse here before the conditions would be conducive to a siezmic shift in society here.

The ruling families have too much control. The deeply tribal nepotism is ingrained. The inflow of $20 billion annually in remittances keeps the serfs just happy enough to remain complacent. I agree with you GE when you say ' the basic nature of this place will ever change'.

I guess I come back to my point that the more likely scenario is slow modest improvements in living standards will in the long term result in less rural subsistence life styles & hence less complacent or fatalistic attitudes. Its going to take a long time though.

AV.

Amavida
10-11-14, 00:11
have you met av? i've never met anyone who has met him.x-man you are on my ignore list but very occasionally i take a peek to see if you have anything constructive to say.

i first starting posting here more than seven years ago & from my first post you have been there questioning my integrity.

my life is really good & i'm not going to waste a millisecond of it on negative time wasting anonymous internet trolls like you.

i have cordially invited you to meet up for a drink when you are in the pi but i never hear from you yet you keep this drivel coming.

with all due respect, i think you have a mental illness. back to the ignore list for you bucko.

av.

Hutsori
10-11-14, 02:13
The question then becomes how likely is the benevolent dictator scenario to materialise?Not too likely. Singapore's Lee Kwan Yew comes to mind. Though not benevolent S. Korea's Park Chung Hee is remembered fondly by most there.

I think it's often forgotten that many modern, civilised Western countries went through long periods of brutal barbarity too. It wasn't too long ago that severed heads were posted on pikes by the authorities in London. The change to a more humane and just society was a long evolution, and still many claim to be disenfranchised and exploited.

FreebieFan
10-11-14, 02:43
x-man you are on my ignore list but very occasionally i take a peek to see if you have anything constructive to say.

i first starting posting here more than seven years ago & from my first post you have been there questioning my integrity.

my life is really good & i'm not going to waste a millisecond of it on negative time wasting anonymous internet trolls like you.

i have cordially invited you to meet up for a drink when you are in the pi but i never hear from you yet you keep this drivel coming.

with all due respect, i think you have a mental illness. back to the ignore list for you bucko.

av.well said. there are many spartans of the keyboard here, and all have an equal right to spout their opinions.

its up to us, who and when we place these heroes on ignore.

GoodEnough
10-11-14, 04:19
I think it's often forgotten that many modern, civilised Western countries went through long periods of brutal barbarity too. It wasn't too long ago that severed heads were posted on pikes by the authorities in London. The change to a more humane and just society was a long evolution, and still many claim to be disenfranchised and exploited.mWell said, and if recent events surrounding the outbreak of police brutality in Missouri are any indication, some "developed" countries have still not evolved completely. However historically accurate Hutsori's post may be though, it's important to remember that the pace of dramatic change--particularly in the economic arena--has increased dramatically, and the Philippines, for reasons that we have described ad infinitum is wholly incapable of competing in this arena. Nor is the government doing much beyond the usual bombast to accelerate the pace of meaningful change. My take is that The place is so hopelessly behind the development curve that it will never catch up.

GE.

Rubio Tonto
10-11-14, 04:28
police brutality in Missouri Not limited to Missouri, unfortunately.

X Man
10-11-14, 14:38
wow! i quoted rk, no need to get all riled up. for the record i've never met rk in person.

if i'm going to meet up with someone for a drink, i'd like to get a little feedback about that person from other friends and acquaintances.

over the past seven years i've never gotten any response to the question, "have you met av?" not one pm.

sorry to drive the point home, but no one on this list has ever said (to me) that they had ever met someone who met av. " those are some weak stats from someone who offers to buy people drinks for seven years. lol.

"anonymous internet troll"? we are all anonymous here on the list. and please follow the list rules and refrain from name calling. and, yes, i do have a mental illness. still want to meet for a drink?


x-man you are on my ignore list but very occasionally i take a peek to see if you have anything constructive to say.

i first starting posting here more than seven years ago & from my first post you have been there questioning my integrity.

my life is really good & i'm not going to waste a millisecond of it on negative time wasting anonymous internet trolls like you.

i have cordially invited you to meet up for a drink when you are in the pi but i never hear from you yet you keep this drivel coming.

with all due respect, i think you have a mental illness. back to the ignore list for you bucko.

av.

Soapy Smith
10-11-14, 18:46
not too likely. singapore's lee kwan yew comes to mind. though not benevolent s. korea's park chung hee is remembered fondly by most there.

i think it's often forgotten that many modern, civilised western countries went through long periods of brutal barbarity too. it wasn't too long ago that severed heads were posted on pikes by the authorities in london. the change to a more humane and just society was a long evolution, and still many claim to be disenfranchised and exploited.perhaps it's noteworthy that the list of benevolent dictators is short.

following h's lead, i think that the way to proceed hinges on our time horizons. there's an often-quoted african proverb that suggests "if you want to go fast, go alone. if you want to go far, go together. " i too have met some filipinos and fil-ams who remember marcos fondly, but i would suggest they have short memories. in the beginning, when he held the presidency legally, he did many things that appeared on surface to help the philippines. but as his presidency turned into martial law, the longer-term effects of his tyranny and patronage turned out to be devastating to the government, the economy and the society. sadly, others had to clean up his shit--literally in [CodeWord131] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord131) left in his rooms in malacanang--and cleaning it up elsewhere appears to be a never-ending task.

nuff for now.

Offshore Swell
10-12-14, 08:49
Hi Guys, a quick question if I may.

I have a sweet young student that I have beeen sponsoring for quite some time. She now has her passport.

I have noticed and heard that filipina immigration maintain a watch on those leaving the country. I would like to buy her a return ticket to Singapore for two nights and meet her there.

Would she likely be prevented from leaving by immigration or denied entry by Singapore. There is no intention to overstay. Then she would just return home.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated. I could also supply her with a request to attend Singapore for job interview on Company letterhead althoughnot sure if this would help much.

Best regards.

OS.

Econo Tech
10-12-14, 13:46
Hi Guys, a quick question if I may.

I have a sweet young student that I have beeen sponsoring for quite some time. She now has her passport.

I have noticed and heard that filipina immigration maintain a watch on those leaving the country. I would like to buy her a return ticket to Singapore for two nights and meet her there.

Would she likely be prevented from leaving by immigration or denied entry by Singapore. There is no intention to overstay. Then she would just return home.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated. I could also supply her with a request to attend Singapore for job interview on Company letterhead althoughnot sure if this would help much.
T
Best regards.

OS.This was discussed before.

My 2 cents on top, don't show any letter of interview to PH immigration.

The jokers will tag her as an illegal / trafficked person unless she has an agency behind her.

Singapore side is cool as long as she isn't too young or has prior visits denied entry to SG.

Gangles
10-12-14, 15:13
Just for one moment, put yourself in the shoes of a filipino immigration officer. This young woman presents at your counter with a brand new passport, and a return ticket for 3 days. She has no money, no assets, knows nothing about where she is going. And tells some cock and bull story about her very generous kano BF who buys her a ticket for Singapore.

And she promises to return after 3 days.

Would you believe her?

I suggest not.

I would be amazed if she makes it through immigration.

G.


Hi Guys, a quick question if I may.

I have a sweet young student that I have beeen sponsoring for quite some time. She now has her passport.

I have noticed and heard that filipina immigration maintain a watch on those leaving the country. I would like to buy her a return ticket to Singapore for two nights and meet her there.

Would she likely be prevented from leaving by immigration or denied entry by Singapore. There is no intention to overstay. Then she would just return home.

Any helpful advice would be appreciated. I could also supply her with a request to attend Singapore for job interview on Company letterhead althoughnot sure if this would help much.

Best regards.

OS.

Econo Tech
10-13-14, 01:18
Just for one moment, put yourself in the shoes of a filipino immigration officer. This young woman presents at your counter with a brand new passport, and a return ticket for 3 days. She has no money, no assets, knows nothing about where she is going. And tells some cock and bull story about her very generous kano BF who buys her a ticket for Singapore.

And she promises to return after 3 days.

Would you believe her?

I suggest not.

I would be amazed if she makes it through immigration.

G.You may be surprised.

A lot do make it past the immigration in Philippines and into Singapore.

In fact as long as she is above 20 she can get here to SG.

How they do it, I have no idea.

One of the CL hookup I got in Singapore was 19 and her passport said so.

Offshore Swell
10-13-14, 04:58
This is as I suspected. Now confirmed. Many thanks all.

Sorry, I did not RTFF if this has been discussed earlier.

OS.


Just for one moment, put yourself in the shoes of a filipino immigration officer. This young woman presents at your counter with a brand new passport, and a return ticket for 3 days. She has no money, no assets, knows nothing about where she is going. And tells some cock and bull story about her very generous kano BF who buys her a ticket for Singapore.

And she promises to return after 3 days.

Would you believe her?

I suggest not.

I would be amazed if she makes it through immigration.

G.

FreebieFan
10-13-14, 05:18
Hi Guys, a quick question if I may.

I have a sweet young student that I have beeen sponsoring for quite some time. She now has her passport.

I have noticed and heard that filipina immigration maintain a watch on those leaving the country. I would like to buy her a return ticket to Singapore for two nights and meet her there.

Would she likely be prevented from leaving by immigration or denied entry by Singapore. .



Best regards.

OS.Been there, done that.

Sent her the ticket. Sent her my hotel reservation form. She had her own money to travel with.

She ever got past immigration. They asked her sufficient questions to delay everything until " so sorry miss, but the flight is leaving now, were sorry that you missed the flight".

If I want to bring a "friend", on a business trip I take a Thai or Indonesian. No problem at all.

Things would have to change a lot for me to be motivated enough to ask a Pinay to travel to where I am.

Jp Slicky
10-13-14, 12:01
See link to news item.

http://news.yahoo.com/urban-decay-threatens-hot-philippine-economy-001404882.html

Wicked Roger
10-13-14, 14:45
You may be surprised.

A lot do make it past the immigration in Philippines and into Singapore.

In fact as long as she is above 20 she can get here to SG.

How they do it, I have no idea.

One of the CL hookup I got in Singapore was 19 and her passport said so.I did reply to OS original FR with some idea re affidavits that I have used (I know Gangles also has used in the past) but that FR has yet to appear so who know what is happening.

But ET is right but this tends to involve payment that is illegal and one lady officer was recently caught being the centre of a payment scheme to allow girls to go through etc. All in the press.

Best bet is be with her or go somewhere else, I find Malaysia is OK, HK also but again I always recommend you are with her (see my first FR if it ever appears LOL). And you have my contact details also so we can do this offline.

D Cups
10-13-14, 16:06
See link to news item.

http://news.yahoo.com/urban-decay-threatens-hot-philippine-economy-001404882.htmlThanks, Jp. Ya, Manila is a clusterfuck with no improvement in sight. I always try to book hotel near the action so travel time is minimized.

Wicked Roger
10-13-14, 17:56
Lots of chatter on how corrupt the country is and some of the posters have eloquently stated why there is little hope in reality.

This may seem like another case of tourists being extorted by the police. Am sure it happens a lot more than reported but it involves Saudis.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/644393/nbi-agents-milking-saudi-nationals

Now, some will even say the Saudis deserve it etc but regardless of this the incident may prove more embarrassing for the Philippine government than it thinks especially if it does not catch the rogue NBI agent.

Many of you will know about the 'Blue Diamond' Affair in Thailand many years ago (Google it ass a good read). This is far less than (no jewels stolen no deaths) that but the Saudi authorities hold a 'whip hand' over this country as it issues thousands of OFW work visas.

The Thai situation was resolved by the Saudis never again issuing work visas so despite the far less serious nature of this incident if the government let it slide as am sure some in the police would like, it could ultimately impact many families as the Saudis can get DHs etc from other countries. They don't really care (especially when Saudi nationals complained to their government that paying a DH 15-18000 pesos a month was far too much and Africans were cheaper).

Just my view but one that shows how corruption can impact many more in the longer term. And for 25 years or so the Saudis have never issues a work visa.

FreebieFan
10-14-14, 01:54
Lots of chatter on how corrupt the country is and some of the posters have eloquently stated why there is little hope in reality.

This may seem like another case of tourists being extorted by the police. Am sure it happens a lot more than reported but it involves Saudis.

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/644393/nbi-agents-milking-saudi-nationals

Now, some will even say the Saudis deserve it etc but regardless of this the incident may prove more embarrassing for the Philippine government than it thinks especially if it does not catch the rogue NBI agent.

Many of you will know about the 'Blue Diamond' Affair in Thailand many years ago (Google it ass a good read). This is far less than (no jewels stolen no deaths) that but the Saudi authorities hold a 'whip hand' over this country as it issues thousands of OFW work visas.

The Thai situation was resolved by the Saudis never again issuing work visas so despite the far less serious nature of this incident if the government let it slide as am sure some in the police would like, it could ultimately impact many families as the Saudis can get DHs etc from other countries. They don't really care (especially when Saudi nationals complained to their government that paying a DH 15-18000 pesos a month was far too much and Africans were cheaper).

Just my view but one that shows how corruption can impact many more in the longer term. And for 25 years or so the Saudis have never issues a work visa.You make some good points. One of the reasons there are so many OFW's in Saudi is that there are no agency or recruitment fees for Filipinas who go as DH. For that reason alone, many will put up with going to Saudi instead of say HK or Singapore. Life as a DH in Saudi can be akin to a living hell, as one of my former porn stars is now fallen on hard times and is in Saudi. Yes the Saudis have their own way of ensuring they have the upper hand. But remember that many Saudis are somewhat scared to walk around certain parts of Manila alone as they also know that the Filipinos hate the goat fuckers. And will get their own back sometimes. This case will be interesting to watch.

Gangles
10-14-14, 07:38
Hi,

I plan a short trip to the Phils, with a week each in Manila and Cebu city.

I want to get dresses made for GF in each place.

Can anyone give me names, businesses in each place where I can get women's clothing made?

Thanks in anticipation.

G

Red Kilt
10-14-14, 14:21
Maybe the Philippines is leading the US of A in at least one area, but it seems the USA is hell bent on catching up.

The reasons are different between nations though.

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2014/10/13-unwed-childbearing-new-norm-sawhill?utm_campaign=Brookings+Brief&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=14485718&_hsenc=p2 ANqtz-9 edEdeRCQrpr-nuWj6 iaTli4 SK38 G6 EPjKi-mhVEu8 Tns78 IHxTdbmFRWoue12 XOnfuISVH_m4 jgOkeSwY5 YD6 Pi_k9 Q&_hsmi=14485718.

Amavida
10-14-14, 15:48
Hi,

I plan a short trip to the Phils, with a week each in Manila and Cebu city.

I want to get dresses made for GF in each place.

Can anyone give me names, businesses in each place where I can get women's clothing made?

Thanks in anticipation.

GEvery barangay has someone with an industrial sewing machine. Just ask the girls.

AV.

Soapy Smith
10-15-14, 07:18
Maybe the Philippines is leading the US of A in at least one area, but it seems the USA is hell bent on catching up.

The reasons are different between nations though.

http://www.brookings.edu/blogs/social-mobility-memos/posts/2014/10/13-unwed-childbearing-new-norm-sawhill?utm_campaign=Brookings+Brief&utm_source=hs_email&utm_medium=email&utm_content=14485718&_hsenc=p2 ANqtz-9 edEdeRCQrpr-nuWj6 iaTli4 SK38 G6 EPjKi-mhVEu8 Tns78 IHxTdbmFRWoue12 XOnfuISVH_m4 jgOkeSwY5 YD6 Pi_k9 Q&_hsmi=14485718.I heard today that Apple and Google (I think) are now offering an egg freezing and storage benefit for women employees, a benefit apparently worth at least $10 K. A cynical take on this is that the companies just want to wring all the possible productivity out of women while they're young, whereas the outcome for women may be ending up in their 40's with few chances to attract a mate, raising the kid (if they choose to get an egg fertilized) well into their 50's or 60's, and odds of viability of the eggs at around 20%. But to the extent women want to live professional lives like men's, this may be an attractive option for the woman who thinks she can have it all. And again, increases the incidence of unwed motherhood.

Lou32
10-15-14, 14:22
(Posted this in Hotels and figured this may be the better sub-forum for this question):

I'll be staying at ABC very soon and I don't know the power requirements for my electronics.

Will I need to bring a 220 v to 110 v converter for my trip to Angeles City?

Thanks for your help.

Cbea20
10-16-14, 09:50
Try Central Market, just north of Manila City Hall.


Hi,

I plan a short trip to the Phils, with a week each in Manila and Cebu city.

I want to get dresses made for GF in each place.

Can anyone give me names, businesses in each place where I can get women's clothing made?

Thanks in anticipation.

G

Hutsori
10-23-14, 07:04
This may have little to no importance to the jet-set junta who travel in posh comfort by taxi, but if you use public transport this website works wonders for determining which jeep to take from point A to point B - http://sakay.ph/.

It uses google maps so it's familiar and accurate, though be warned google maps uses the current street names whereas most signs on transport use the old names often.

It has its flaws, for example travel from Pedro Gil station to Hyatt Hotel it only provides walking info; it's a not a far walk but on a sweltering day it kind of sucks.

May be useful to a girl who needs to travel to your location.

Jp Slicky
10-23-14, 10:23
Is there anyone that has a good safe reliable mail order Vitamin see and or V site?

I take off in about 2 weeks from now.

Wicked Roger
10-23-14, 22:10
GE and others have posted FRs on using Uber, I know GE is a fan so this article is interesting. Seems the authorities are following the lead from some other parts of the world and trying to stop people using Uber.

Who knows if it will work as some countries have passed laws and that would take time in this country, but scaring the drivers who are connected to Uber plus confiscating the car and a huge fine may deter some from offering themselves as a Uber driver.

http://technology.inquirer.net/39160/ltfrb-goes-after-uber-vehicles-mmda-disagrees

Hutsori
10-24-14, 03:40
Anyone in Ermita now (10:30 am 24 Oct) may want stroll over to the Diamond Hotel. Cebu Pacific is holding open interviews for FAs and there are a couple hundred applicants there presently. Not as awesomely massive as the Qatar Airways one a few weeks ago. Still...

D Cups
10-24-14, 03:51
Anyone in Ermita now (10:30 am 24 Oct) may want stroll over to the Diamond Hotel. Cebu Pacific is holding open interviews for FAs and there are a couple hundred applicants there presently. Not as awesomely massive as the Qatar Airways one a few weeks ago. Still...Wow, wish I was there now. They hire a lot of cuties. I'd love to have a stewardess girlfriend or wannabe stewardess.

Amavida
10-24-14, 05:16
I noticed often a member will mention a good deal they have just received & yet when I go check it out the price is totally different.

Scratch your head no more gents. This article from a University study throws light on price discrimination.

Lesson: buy a bloody iPhone.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/10/22/online-shopping-yields-different-prices-results-says-northeastern-study/ZbSVnoBxPJtA8STeWbpQ9H/story.html

AV.

Pcpc1688
10-24-14, 06:30
Hello all,

Never been to Phillo, is DIA a workable site and any suggestions of where to stay, eat, monger?

Any help appreciated.

PC out.

WestCoast1
10-24-14, 07:12
Never been to Phillo, is DIA a workable site and any suggestions of where to stay, eat, monger?Yes, DIA is a good site for meeting both regular, semipro, and hardcore girls. For the rest, RTTF.

Pcpc1688
10-24-14, 07:30
Yes, DIA is a good site for meeting both regular, semipro, and hardcore girls. For the rest, RTTF.WC,

As a seasoned SM here, I would like it handed to me on a silver platter please LOL. If you go to HK or Macau, I will be your tour guide. In the Philo, it seems your are the man but I will take suggestions from any respectable monger here. No disrespect intended to you WC.

PC out.

Econo Tech
10-24-14, 13:25
WC,

As a seasoned SM here, I would like it handed to me on a silver platter please LOL. If you go to HK or Macau, I will be your tour guide. In the Philo, it seems your are the man but I will take suggestions from any respectable monger here. No disrespect intended to you WC.

PC out.You may learn your sea legs by working of Filipinas in HK on DIA, to get a feel. LOL.

Soapy Smith
10-24-14, 14:11
Lesson: buy a bloody iPhone.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2014/10/22/online-shopping-yields-different-prices-results-says-northeastern-study/ZbSVnoBxPJtA8STeWbpQ9H/story.html

AV.And set up an IP address at the home of an acquaintance who lives in the slums and use it for your travel shopping.

Soapy Smith
10-24-14, 14:13
Anyone in Ermita now (10:30 am 24 Oct) may want stroll over to the Diamond Hotel. Cebu Pacific is holding open interviews for FAs and there are a couple hundred applicants there presently. Not as awesomely massive as the Qatar Airways one a few weeks ago. Still...Do you have a personal helicopter that you use to scan the metro area for long queues of attractive women?

WestCoast1
10-24-14, 14:21
WC,

As a seasoned SM here, I would like it handed to me on a silver platter please LOL. If you go to HK or Macau, I will be your tour guide. In the Philo, it seems your are the man but I will take suggestions from any respectable monger here. No disrespect intended to you WC.

PC out.Copy. The where to stay, what to eat part is difficult to answer. Different areas and cities have different opportunities at different price levels. What do you consider an acceptable hotel? Acceptable food? Price level for chicas? Answer me in PM.

Hutsori
10-24-14, 14:21
Do you have a personal helicopter that you use to scan the metro area for long queues of attractive women?Would be useful... until I have to land the bugger. I have a divining rod.

Soapy Smith
10-24-14, 14:43
Although not directly related to our search for inexpensive ED medications, I think there is a carryover effect from public policy in India that affects the survival of generic medicines from India. The other perverse aspect of this story is the role of a very large international NGO, Doctors Without Borders, working for something that unintentionally helps out us aging mongers:

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/26721-big-pharma-lobbies-hard-to-end-india-s-distribution-of-affordable-generic-drugs

Radical Guy
10-26-14, 00:59
I just watched a move on NetFlix called "Metro Manila. " Very realistic and illuminating, and shot onsite in Manila. Check it out.

RG.

Slippery
10-26-14, 09:46
I just watched a move on NetFlix called "Metro Manila. " Very realistic and illuminating, and shot onsite in Manila. Check it out.

RG.Can't get Netflix here in Metro Manila to watch Metro Manila.

Radical Guy
10-26-14, 13:29
Can't get Netflix here in Metro Manila to watch Metro Manila.Not surprising. Very vew people there have internet fast enough for Netflix.

Pcpc1688
10-26-14, 13:48
You may learn your sea legs by working of Filipinas in HK on DIA, to get a feel. LOL.Got my sea legs many moons ago LOL.

Any other suggestions though?

PC out.

Amavida
10-27-14, 00:40
Hello all,

Never been to Phillo, <snip> any suggestions of where to stay, eat, monger?
Too broad. Skim through the forum posts for info keeping in mind your taste / budget / intended destination (Angeles, Manila, Cebu or other) then get back to us with more focused questions.

Regards.

AV.

Amavida
10-27-14, 01:53
And set up an IP address at the home of an acquaintance who lives in the slums and use it for your travel shopping.The take home message from the study was: 1) use the worlds most expensive phone (iPhone) & 2) Be in an high socio economic zip code (or have an IP address originating from one). No, not slum address at all Skip!

AV.

Amavida
10-27-14, 01:58
Is there anyone that has a good safe reliable mail order Vitamin see and or V site?

I take off in about 2 weeks from now.Buy Viagra cheap on the street when you get here, its the real generic drug courtesy of Indian factory pharmacies. Or walk into a Watsons 'Drug Store' as Americans like to call it and buy over the counter. Mercury drug Stores can be a little pernicitky about asking for a script. Cialis has supply problems so is not available. YMMV.

AV.

GoodEnough
10-27-14, 04:03
For most of us who live here, the government has imposed a new requirement requiring long-staying foreigners to register their fingerprints with the BOI, and then to carry a new identity card, presumably with additional information embedded in the chip. My attorney, who handles all of our corporate as well as my personal affairs, arranged for me to meet a specific person at the Davao BOI and, though I more or less dreaded the experience, the whole thing was quite pleasant, took less than 30 minutes and was rather efficient. I think the deadline for compliance is sometime in mid-November.

GE.

Hutsori
10-27-14, 04:11
Buy Viagra cheap on the street when you get here, its the real generic drug courtesy of Indian factory pharmacies. Or walk into a Watsons 'Drug Store' as Americans like to call it and buy over the counter. Mercury drug Stores can be a little pernicitky about asking for a script. Cialis has supply problems so is not available. YMMV.

AV.I ignore much of what my mother taught me, but "Don't put that in your mouth," still holds true for me in this case. The street V may be the real deal, and it may not be. Plenty of counterfeit goods make their way here. Hopefully the worst one gets is sawdust coloured blue and bonded with glue, but one could find something much more toxic. Is the possibility of poisoning oneself really worth it?

To the OP, there are dozens if not hundreds of posts in the forum that cover this in much detail.

This subject really ought to have a sticky. edit: And now it does - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3632-The-Viagra-Dialogue-Buying-medicine-for-your-cock&p=1637500#post1637500

Hutsori
10-27-14, 04:15
For most of us who live here, the government has imposed a new requirement requiring long-staying foreigners to register their fingerprints with the BOI, and then to carry a new identity card, presumably with additional information embedded in the chip. My attorney, who handles all of our corporate as well as my personal affairs, arranged for me to meet a specific person at the Davao BOI and, though I more or less dreaded the experience, the whole thing was quite pleasant, took less than 30 minutes and was rather efficient. I think the deadline for compliance is sometime in mid-November.

GE.Good post. Every visit I've made at the Makati BOI has been pleasant and efficient.

Amavida
10-27-14, 06:05
I ignore much of what my mother taught me, but "Don't put that in your mouth," still holds true for me in this case. The street V may be the real deal, and it may not be. Plenty of counterfeit goods make their way here. Hopefully the worst one gets is sawdust coloured blue and bonded with glue, but one could find something much more toxic. Is the possibility of poisoning oneself really worth it?

To the OP, there are dozens if not hundreds of posts in the forum that cover this in much detail.

This subject really ought to have a sticky. edit: And now it does - http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3632-The-Viagra-Dialogue-Buying-medicine-for-your-cock&p=1637500#post1637500!myself & countless thousands of customers say it is the generic drug brought in from Indian factory pharmacies. It has always been the real deal over nearly 10 years in my experience.

Then there are the guys who don't buy it but insist its fake.

I'll let others be the judge on whose word to take.

Cheers mate.

AV.

Amavida
10-27-14, 06:10
For most of us who live here, the government has imposed a new requirement requiring long-staying foreigners to register their fingerprints with the BOI, and then to carry a new identity card, presumably with additional information embedded in the chip. My attorney, who handles all of our corporate as well as my personal affairs, arranged for me to meet a specific person at the Davao BOI and, though I more or less dreaded the experience, the whole thing was quite pleasant, took less than 30 minutes and was rather efficient. I think the deadline for compliance is sometime in mid-November.

GE.GE, Clark field office is efficient also. Not comfortable with this. I know it has been brought on by all the Mumbai & ROK overstsyers grossly abusing the system but it feels like a noose slowly tightening. Not a friendly feeling to be required to be fingerprinted. Its kind of laughable because they don't check the veracity of your info anyway.

AV.

Amavida
10-27-14, 06:11
For most of us who live here, the government has imposed a new requirement requiring long-staying foreigners to register their fingerprints with the BOI, and then to carry a new identity card, presumably with additional information embedded in the chip. My attorney, who handles all of our corporate as well as my personal affairs, arranged for me to meet a specific person at the Davao BOI and, though I more or less dreaded the experience, the whole thing was quite pleasant, took less than 30 minutes and was rather efficient. I think the deadline for compliance is sometime in mid-November.

GE.GE, Clark field office is efficient also. Not comfortable with this. I know it has been brought on by all the Mumbai & ROK over stayers grossly abusing the system but it feels like a noose slowly tightening. Not a friendly feeling to be required to be fingerprinted. Its kind of laughable because they don't check the veracity of your info anyway.

AV.

Hutsori
10-27-14, 08:23
!myself & countless thousands of customers say it is the generic drug brought in from Indian factory pharmacies. It has always been the real deal over nearly 10 years in my experience.

Then there are the guys who don't buy it but insist its fake.

I'll let others be the judge on whose word to take.

Cheers mate.

AV.I look at this from the economics viewpoint. Why do black markets arise? Most commonly because things are very restricted / forbidden or they are priced prohibitively. Is sildenafil citrate difficult to obtain in the Philippines? No. Absolutely not. Even though a prescription is required I have never, ever have produced one. And this holds true for all types of pharmaceuticals here. So, is sildenafil expensive? A 50 MG tablet is less than p60 at Generics. I can be tight, sometimes Cheap Charlie tight, but even I will concede $1.50 isn't a bad value. So, if sildenafil is easy to obtain and cheap, what sustains the black market? I suspect it's ignorance or impulse or both.

Since most potential customers are from countries where drugs are more difficult to obtain these guys assume the rest of the world works that way. Human nature, I guess. I know it was a revelation to me when I found that chemists in many Asian countries didn't require a scrip at all - this was years ago, and things aren't so permissive anymore. Perhaps these sellers satisfy impulse buyers, guys who really don't need sildenafil back home but who are curious. The hawker in the street in AC or Burgos is more convenient than going to a pharmacy. Does this convenience cost less than $1.50 per 50 MG tablet? I don't know. How well one bazaar haggles may determine this. For me whatever savings I may find at less than $1.50 don't outweigh the risk. And since the pharmacy (many of them actually) is much closer to my condo than the hawker in the street I find it more convenient too.

One of the reasons I'm wary is because these Indian-made generics sold in the street are packaged in Viagra or Cialis boxes. Now, one thing I know is legit generics can't infringe on a trademark. The Indian-made sildenafil sold at Generics Pharmacy is branded Tigerfil. Somehow or another the black market boxes purportedly legit sidenafil in counterfeit packaging. Amazingly this packing is much nicer (convincingly nicer) than that of the legit sildenafil sold in bona fide chemists. Since the packagers of this fake "Viagra" are already involved in selling a product that is partially counterfeit, what's to stop them from taking the next step by putting counterfeit sildenafil in counterfeit boxes? This seems more likely when the target market is impulsive or ignorant. And often drunk. Good sellers know their buyers'... weaknesses. We all know that fake sildenafil exists, http://www.forbes.com/sites/melaniehaiken/2013/09/12/buying-viagra-online-its-very-likely-fake-and-possibly-dangerous-new-data-say/ .

I'm glad to hear the nameless, faceless thousands you know haven't been harmed. That's a good thing. Since all you need is merely that to assure you of the black-market sildenafil's legitimacy and efficacy I reckon we ought to eliminate the MHRA, FDA and other regulatory bodies. If one reads it on the Internet then that's all the guarantee one needs.

I agree a consumer ought to exercise good judgment when deciding whose word to take. The relevant regulatory officials, many of whom are doctors and scientists? Or some Juan in the street? Up to you.

Don't stop believing.

Soapy Smith
10-27-14, 16:13
One of the reasons I'm wary is because these Indian-made generics sold in the street are packaged in Viagra or Cialis boxes. And if you look closely you find that they often have crude misspellings within the instruction sheets and even on the outside of the box. Even the manufacturer's name: "Eli Lily and Company. ".

Soapy Smith
10-27-14, 16:25
The take home message from the study was: 1) use the worlds most expensive phone (iPhone) & 2) Be in an high socio economic zip code (or have an IP address originating from one). No, not slum address at all Skip! AV.I agree with your first takeaway. But following the article, living in a high socio-economic zip code is likely to get you directed to more expensive products. So that would be a takeaway for those who want to be led to high-end products. And for people who don't want to be led to high-end products, do you think that's the takeaway advice?

Amavida
10-27-14, 19:52
I agree with your first takeaway. But following the article, living in a high socio-economic zip code is likely to get you directed to more expensive products. So that would be a takeaway for those who want to be led to high-end products. And for people who don't want to be led to high-end products, do you think that's the takeaway advice?Nope, I don't believe that's what the study was saying Skip. That's extrapolating to far.

AV.

Amavida
10-27-14, 19:58
And if you look closely you find that they often have crude misspellings within the instruction sheets and even on the outside of the box. Even the manufacturer's name: "Eli Lily and Company. ".By all means use caution, yes. Over ten years I have found that the generic Viagra sold on the street is what it is claimed to be. Yes, the boxes are reproductions of the original manufacturer box. Cost of the genetics are roughly one fourth of the pharmacy sold product. I have purchased both from time to time.

My sample size is not that big, I don't nip down to the local hawker 3 times a week LOL!

YMMV.

AV.

GoodEnough
10-27-14, 22:48
GE, Clark field office is efficient also. Not comfortable with this. I know it has been brought on by all the Mumbai & ROK over stayers grossly abusing the system but it feels like a noose slowly tightening. Not a friendly feeling to be required to be fingerprinted. Its kind of laughable because they don't check the veracity of your info anyway.

AV.Doesn't make me entirely comfortable either AV, but I'm not going to get paranoid about it. I was fingerprinted using the old ink pad technology, when I applied for my first ACR about nine years ago, and again (electronically) the last time I renewed my driver's license. I'm not sure what, if anything, the government here does with the digitized information, but I'm guessing not much.

GE.

Hutsori
10-28-14, 01:11
Doesn't make me entirely comfortable either AV, but I'm not going to get paranoid about it. I was fingerprinted using the old ink pad technology, when I applied for my first ACR about nine years ago, and again (electronically) the last time I renewed my driver's license. I'm not sure what, if anything, the government here does with the digitized information, but I'm guessing not much.

GE.Immigration has been fingerprinting long staying foreigners (>6 months) when they apply for their departure certificate. Why there is this departure certificate requirement I can't tell you. Taking someone's fingerprints a week prior to their departure doesn't seem to me the best way to thwart crime. It may aid in solving crimes, but if the criminal has already departed the country it's not an efficient system. Nowadays many countries capture a visitor's fingerprints upon their arrival immigration at the port of entry. I don't see how a government having this info can harm me; if they're going to frame me for something the might the state wields is so massive it can do so at anytime. The only things I'd worry about are a) hackers capturing my personal info from a gov't system or b) someone at the immigration office selling my info to telemarketers.

Questor55
10-28-14, 01:26
According to a news report there are approximately 1700 OFWs working in the three nations of West Africa hardest hit by the Ebola outbreak and an additional 100 Philippines peacekeepers in Liberia. What's alarming is that the government, in typical fashion, seems to have no plan to safeguard this country from potentially infected returnees. (I guess that is left in God's hands.) Given the state of the public health system and the general incompetence displayed by politicians and officials, this could indeed be a ticking time bomb!

Bamboo Pete
10-28-14, 02:49
Immigration has been fingerprinting long staying foreigners (>6 months) when they apply for their departure certificate. Why there is this departure certificate requirement I can't tell you. Taking someone's fingerprints a week prior to their departure doesn't seem to me the best way to thwart crime. It may aid in solving crimes, but if the criminal has already departed the country it's not an efficient system. Nowadays many countries capture a visitor's fingerprints upon their arrival immigration at the port of entry. I don't see how a government having this info can harm me; if they're going to frame me for something the might the state wields is so massive it can do so at anytime. The only things I'd worry about are a) hackers capturing my personal info from a gov't system or b) someone at the immigration office selling my info to telemarketers.If they register us in a data base, it would be easier for them to bring things together. I was searching several threads yesterday looking for the discussion, if doctors have the duty of notification (but couldn't find it) . Just as an example, if a doctor would find a STD and he would report it, than this information goes into the same data base and you will have trouble next time you enter Philippines. Maybe they don't even let you in anymore. Just a thought.

Member #4451
10-28-14, 20:27
Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.

Hutsori
10-29-14, 00:45
If they register us in a data base, it would be easier for them to bring things together. I was searching several threads yesterday looking for the discussion, if doctors have the duty of notification (but couldn't find it) . Just as an example, if a doctor would find a STD and he would report it, than this information goes into the same data base and you will have trouble next time you enter Philippines. Maybe they don't even let you in anymore. Just a thought.Call me a cynic but I doubt things would ever get so thorough in the Philippines. If there were a medical data exchange with immigration I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere. The end result of this delay would be more infections passed to locals, and I think this isn't a goal of the gov't. I wouldn't be opposed to a gov't barring entry to someone with an STD like HIV.

Hutsori
10-29-14, 01:03
Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.La Union, Zambales and Baler are the closest places to Manila. Not too many p4 p FRs here about those places. Try a dating site.

Amavida
10-29-14, 01:42
Preferably with easy access to Manila. A flight+short drive etc. Neither needs to be the best, but would like to do both. Anyone else ever try to make this work? Not looking for a long trip or vacation, just a weekend getaway. I'd rather not take someone with me either.I guess you're looking at Surigao. Avid surfers can chime in with other places. Everywhere you go in the Phils there are girls floating about game for a root & cash, some places more plentiful than others. If you go to a place frequented by lots of foreigners you are less of a novelty.

AV.

Amavida
10-29-14, 01:46
Call me a cynic but I doubt things would ever get so thorough in the Philippines.I used to believe that but things are changing. Yes, it's still fubar in many ways but look back at your first experience of the Immigration office in Manila & compare it to today. Back in 2005 I remember standing a throng for two hours outside in the heat, finally getting to a crummy wooden counter behind which were filing cabinets stacked 10 high stretching back a kilometer (so it seemed). Now it all computers, air-conditioning & very short waits.

Yeah It would be great to keep the diseased out but where on earth has this ever been implemented successfully?

AV.

Hutsori
10-29-14, 02:06
I used to believe that but things are changing. Yes, it's still fubar in many ways but look back at your first experience of the Immigration office in Manila & compare it to today. Back in 2005 I remember standing a throng for two hours outside in the heat, finally getting to a crummy wooden counter behind which were filing cabinets stacked 10 high stretching back a kilometer (so it seemed). Now it all computers, air-conditioning & very short waits.

Yeah It would be great to keep the diseased out but where on earth has this ever been implemented successfully?

AV.At ports of entry it's easier to implement because there are far fewer of them, and under the cause of anti-terrorism some western countries have provided money and know-how round the world. Implementing something to all the thousands of hospitals and clinics nationwide is an all together different feat. It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless. Where on the earth has this been implemented? Nowhere. The only country that could do so would be North Korea.

Bamboo Pete
10-29-14, 04:20
It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless. Where on the earth has this been implemented? Ok, you convince me, this really wouldn't make sense. But what are they doing with the health data? Just for statistics? Do the doctors really have the duty of notification, and if yes, for which deseases?


I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere Actually, I had 2 problems over the last 5 years and I did not go to doctor. As most spread STD in Philippines is chlamydia, I tried it with self medication (Zitromax) and fortunately it worked well.

Brings me to the question. Does anybody know a doctor in AC who would not report?

Red Kilt
10-29-14, 07:08
I know some guys are paying in various ways for their friends to attend College / University.

The data for passers for the Licensure Examination for Teachers (L. E. T.) given last August 17,2014 has just been announced. Graduate teachers must pass the L. E. T before they can get a license to teach.

Results:

25,301 elementary teachers out of 70,786 examinees (35.74%) passed the Elementary exam.

26,767 secondary teachers out of 77,803 examinees (34.40%) passed the Secondary exam.

You can work out that there are large numbers of graduate teachers who cannot teach because they can't pass the LET.

I also have the data regarding which schools were most successful in garnering passers and which ones were abysmally poor. I will share that data on PM if anyone is worried about where their hard-earned is going.

Note this is for TEACHING only, and not for the incredibly over-subscribed Hotel & Restaurant Management programs.

Cbea20
10-29-14, 09:28
So what's the upshot? Did you help someone pass? If so, congratulations. My score is one taker = one passer.

The license is required only for government schools. Non-exam takers and non-passers can still be hired by private institutions.


I know some guys are paying in various ways for their friends to attend College / University.

The data for passers for the Licensure Examination for Teachers (L. E. T.) given last August 17,2014 has just been announced. Graduate teachers must pass the L. E. T before they can get a license to teach.

Results:

25,301 elementary teachers out of 70,786 examinees (35.74%) passed the Elementary exam.

26,767 secondary teachers out of 77,803 examinees (34.40%) passed the Secondary exam.

You can work out that there are large numbers of graduate teachers who cannot teach because they can't pass the LET.

I also have the data regarding which schools were most successful in garnering passers and which ones were abysmally poor. I will share that data on PM if anyone is worried about where their hard-earned is going.

Note this is for TEACHING only, and not for the incredibly over-subscribed Hotel & Restaurant Management programs.

Red Kilt
10-29-14, 09:39
So what's the upshot? Did you help someone pass? If so, congratulations. My score is one taker = one passer.
Purely for information only. I have no vested interest.

I get lots of PMs asking me about college passing rates and about quality of education here and there so this is merely adding to the data.

As Chea says, although private schools may offer quick and easy employment, most graduates of BEED and BSED still choose to undergo the difficult process of passing the LET and so getting hired in public schools, as being employed by the government means better job security, better benefits and around 30% better salary. A teacher who has not passed the LET is designated as an "Unlicensed Teacher" and most teachers are uncomfortable with this label.

Bamboo Pete
10-29-14, 15:01
..... It certainly can be done. Is there really a need? Banning the entry of a foreigner who at some point before tested positive for the clap does little if anything to advance public health when the borders are open to everyone else who aren't tested. It's pointless.....Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?


…… I fear this would cause many foreigners to forego treatment locally and seek it elsewhere……. Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?

Hutsori
10-30-14, 01:01
Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?I'm not a health care worker so this is just a guess: if STI information is collected and aggregated (I don't know whether it is in the Philippines) it's likely done to give the gov't and health care workers an idea of what's happening, where the flare ups are, and where to devote personnel and scarce resources. Countries that are aid recipients, say from the UN or WHO or foreign governments, find that providing such info may further their application's chance to be awarded funds, and such info may even be required by donors.

Often with chlamydia a person may have gonorrhea too, and this STI can be asymptomatic. Moreover some STI's have become resistant to the primary medicine so another, more closely held one must be used. (Oh Christ, I hope I haven't re-ignited the boring safe-sex debate. There is the safe-sex thread - go there.) I've been to hospitals and clinics and when paying cash I've never been asked for an ID except when picking up test results from the lab (in a large hospital). You could give an assumed name, get tested, and then return to the doctor's office rather than the lab, and the nurse will get the lab results on your behalf. Just an idea. I think your concerns are overwrought; there's no STI squad rounding up the infected and processing them for deportation, though if a foreigner tested positive for HIV or Hep C I think the gov't may, and ought to, act.

Amavida
10-30-14, 02:52
Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics?No.


Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?Yes.


Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?Good for you.

Its a third world country. They lots of departments & programs (Start reading about HAMIS) but of course shortage of funds hobbles progress / effectiveness.

AV.

Dg8787
10-30-14, 03:08
Ok, this convince me and you point makes sense. But why do they collect the health information, just for statistics? Do doctors really have the duty of notification for all STD, or just HIV?

Well, I had a problem once and I did not go to doctor. I tried self medication and as most STD in Philippines are chlamydia, I just took Zitromax and it worked. But I would rather know a doctor in AC who won't report. Does anybody know one in AC?There are many labs on Surla St. By MacArthur that do testing while you wait. You will be able to see their signs. STD Testing. Some offer treatment. Not sure if they do reporting. You can ask them.

Also Dr. Willie Lee in Malabanis behind Petron gas station is a good bet 0917 791 1588.

Amavida
10-30-14, 05:00
Also Dr. Willie Lee in Malabanis behind Petron gas station is a good bet 0917 791 1588.Oh my God! I just hurt myself laughing so hard. Seriously? Going to a gas station for medical treatment? Ah, cheap charlies, the depths to which they sink is astonishing.

AV.

Hutsori
10-30-14, 05:06
Oh my God! I just hurt myself laughing so hard. Seriously? Going to a gas station for medical treatment? Ah, cheap charlies, the depths to which they sink is astonishing.

AV.Don't neglect to get your drive shaft greased.

It should be noted that the preposition "behind" was used in his report. If the Petron station was used to be a landmark, and I believe it was, it's actually a very informative post. I don't know anything about Dr. Willie's competence. He may in fact do fine body work.

Amavida
10-30-14, 05:08
Don't neglect to get your drive shaft greased..Good place to get serviced? LOL! .

AV.

Dg8787
10-30-14, 06:40
Oh my God! I just hurt myself laughing so hard. Seriously? Going to a gas station for medical treatment? Ah, cheap charlies, the depths to which they sink is astonishing.

AV.Actually getting your willy fixed by Dr. Willie is even funnier! For the serious drips, Dr Lee is one man shop, appointments the same day and results less than one day for blood tests.

Amavida
10-30-14, 08:22
Actually getting your willy fixed by Dr. Willie is even funnier! For the serious drips, Dr Lee is one man shop.I know! Its too much right? LOL!

AV.

Bamboo Pete
10-30-14, 16:06
There are many labs on Surla St. By MacArthur that do testing while you wait. You will be able to see their signs. STD Testing. Some offer treatment. Not sure if they do reporting. You can ask them.

Also Dr. Willie Lee in Malabanis behind Petron gas station is a good bet 0917 791 1588.Thanks for the hints, even I hope I will never need them. I know both streets, easy to find.

Gangles
10-30-14, 16:46
I just had a week with the lovely Miss A.

My shape and size exactly. Tall and skinny. Compared with a broom handle, she would make the broom handle look positively chubby.

Earlier in the week, she was introduced to the taste of sperm, and she is now a committed swallower.

Later in the week, she discovered that she is really turned on when she is fucked while having a 7" vibrator inserted into her skinny ass.

Real progress towards nirvana.

G

Buko Max
10-30-14, 22:05
I just had a week with the lovely Miss A.

My shape and size exactly. Tall and skinny. Compared with a broom handle, she would make the broom handle look positively chubby.

Earlier in the week, she was introduced to the taste of sperm, and she is now a committed swallower.

Later in the week, she discovered that she is really turned on when she is fucked while having a 7" vibrator inserted into her skinny ass.

Real progress towards nirvana.It's great when you can turn out a shy Filipina in less then a week!

Pip Jaeger
10-31-14, 23:44
Actually getting your willy fixed by Dr. Willie is even funnier! I wonder if the good doctor's also involved in the insurance biz, the sign in the pic says it all. I was tempted to go in and ask if they really do insure "willy's", but I doubted that I would've been able to keep a straight face, LOL.

Wicked Roger
11-01-14, 14:05
From the Philstar, to me reads like a fantasy land given the issues the country faces. Others have FR on the economy etc so while the article itself is more a positive spin / off piece for certain families IMHO the comments by the readers are fairly negative, some thinking it piece is very funny.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/11/01/1386800/now-perfect-time-invest-phl

Member #4698
11-01-14, 16:51
I just watched a move on NetFlix called ". " Very realistic and illuminating, and shot onsite in Manila. Check it out.

RG.+1 for your movie tip. I saw "Metro Manila" last night on Netflix and it was great. It is not a documentary. It is a very well done gritty drama about a peasant farming family forced to leave their land and trying to survive in Manila. The wife has to take a job in a bar and the husband gets a job driving an armored car for a security company. It kind of reminded me of "Amores Perros" another extremely well done film that takes place in gritty Mexico City. Two thumbs up for both films.

Amavida
11-03-14, 03:22
From the Philstar, to me reads like a fantasy land given the issues the country faces. Others have FR on the economy etc so while the article itself is more a positive spin / off piece for certain families IMHO the comments by the readers are fairly negative, some thinking it piece is very funny.

http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2014/11/01/1386800/now-perfect-time-invest-phlAll the Chinese forex flooding in post GFC has created an illusion of progress but beneath the surface its business as usual, unfortunately.

AV.

Wicked Roger
11-03-14, 09:33
Nice article from Margarita Station about a politician. The one from Cebu currently in the main courts for alleged fraud etc with regards to buying land that was under water in Cebu. Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. Which is why IMHO some girls prefer westerners to what their local boys offer, but that's just my view.

Made me chuckle especially the bit about Certificate of Moral Character LOL Where and who would give that. Maybe ask one of the cutie you are shagging LOL.

With the other things the politicians could do to help the ailing economy this representative is focused on really important maters. And her electorate in Cebu no doubt given the 2016 elections.

http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1578

Amavida
11-03-14, 21:49
Nice article from Margarita Station about a politician. The one from Cebu currently in the main courts for alleged fraud etc with regards to buying land that was under water in Cebu. Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. Which is why IMHO some girls prefer westerners to what their local boys offer, but that's just my view.

Made me chuckle especially the bit about Certificate of Moral Character LOL Where and who would give that. Maybe ask one of the cutie you are shagging LOL.

With the other things the politicians could do to help the ailing economy this representative is focused on really important maters. And her electorate in Cebu no doubt given the 2016 elections.

http://www.margaritastation.com/readfull.php?m=1578Breath take hypocrisy like this is standard fare here. This bill is political grand standing. We can only hope it never passes. As I understand it your consular officials are going to have to come up with a certificate of character & z certificate of fiduciary capability. At present embassies in the Philippines do have to provide a 'Certificate of no impediment' which requires a foreigner to prove he / she is not married at time of application for marriage.

These additional requirements will be burdensome. My home country of Australia has already implemented massive increases in visa application costs for applicants wishing to bring in a Filipino spouse. Formerly about $1,600 now about $16,000 in Australian dollars. This is cutting out some men of lesser means but there is still a conga line of Ozzie fools lining up to pay this money for a woman they have never even met. I kid you not.

Longer term nonsense like this must adversely affect the marrying off of woman from poor families & consequently the inflow of remittance money which stands at billions currently.

Short sighted, how typical.

Where is the political opposition in all this? Not a word from them pointing out the blatant hypocrisy?
No, they are all the same. Just waiting their turn at plundering the nations wealth also.

AV.

Pip Jaeger
11-04-14, 03:16
As I understand it your consular officials are going to have to come up with a certificate of character & z certificate of fiduciary capability.Not sure what you mean by "your consular officials", I took it to mean it would apply to all of them.


At present embassies in the Philippines do have to provide a 'Certificate of no impediment' which requires a foreigner to prove he / she is not married at time of application for marriage.
Other then the actual "Certificate of Good Moral Character" the bill is pretty much redundant for US citizens. Proof of financial capability to support your intended spouse is already required by the US as well as a full criminal background check; done by both the FBI (via the NCIC data base) and the man's state Crime Info Center (local data base).

Although Gwen did say "some of the foreigners" are "vagabonds or social and moral derelicts in their own country", she neglected to mention the thousands, or perhaps even the 10's of thousands, of Filipinas who are happily married to foreigners and how not only their lives, but their family's lives have benefitted from the union. As you have said here and others have said elsewhere, nothing more then political grandstanding. But even if the bill does pass, I doubt it will have any significant impact on the marriage process or truly prevent any abuse / exploitation of Pinays from occurring.

Hutsori
11-04-14, 03:43
Wanting to make sure ONLY the westerners prove they are good and wholesome (as if we are not). No mention of a bill for the pinoys who are in many cases far worse. This bill looks like a blessing to me. "Sorry baby, I can't get the certificate. We'll have to keep things as they are. " The Philippines... where dreams keep coming true.

Will thwart those vagabonds who want to remain in the Philippines under a spouse visa.

If it becomes law I reckon a court will nullify it due to it being exclusively focused on Pinays.

Roll Aides
11-04-14, 19:06
“The exploitation of our Filipino women, through the so-called mail-order or pen-pal, Facebook, website-made and other Internet-made marriages, has not only caused untold miseries and suffering to our Filipino women but it has also brought dishonor and disgrace to Filipino womanhood,” she added.Sounds like sour grapes to me.

Hutsori
11-04-14, 19:43
Sounds like sour grapes to me.It's high school. The younger, prettier girls orbited the older guys. Why? They could drive, often had some pocket money, had grown into their bodies, were the stars of the varsity sports teams, etc. In a patriarchal system the emphasis is on enhancing local (insider) male esteem. Wound someone's pride and he may react. I doubt many Filipino guys are thrilled by our presence here. And let's be honest, the loutish behaviour of many foreign males leaves a lot to be desired. I don't support this silly law, but I understand from where it arises.

Roll Aides
11-04-14, 19:58
It's high school. The younger, prettier girls orbited the older guys. Why? They could drive, often had some pocket money, had grown into their bodies, were the stars of the varsity sports teams, etc. In a patriarchal system the emphasis is on enhancing local (insider) male esteem. Wound someone's pride and he may react. I doubt many Filipino guys are thrilled by our presence here. And let's be honest, the loutish behaviour of many foreign males leaves a lot to be desired. I don't support this silly law, but I understand from where it arises.I was being silly. Still, I'm standing by that the quotee needs to be fucked. Hard, in the backdoor if possible. Dirty foreigners. Dirty, dirty, foreigners.

Slippery
11-04-14, 21:07
There's obviously some outside influence in the language and intent of the proposed statute. If any American guy is going to get in line and marry his online love of a lifetime, he'll want to take a look at the International Marriage Broker Registration Act (IMBRA). The proposed Filipino statue is like running the low hurdles compared to IMBRA. The woman proposing this legislation has obviously been misguided. On the other hand, maybe she's trying to misguide the well reasoned and enlightened voting public of the country.

Slippery
11-04-14, 21:08
There's obviously some outside influence in the language and intent of the proposed statute. If any American guy is going to get in line and marry his online love of a lifetime, he'll want to take a look at the International Marriage Broker Registration Act (IMBRA). The proposed Filipino statue is like running the low hurdles compared to IMBRA. The woman proposing this legislation has obviously been misguided. On the other hand, maybe she's trying to misguide the nation's well reasoned and enlightened voting public.

Amavida
11-05-14, 05:30
Sounds like sour grapes to me.Its boiler plate hypocrisy. Standard fare here. Playing to the home crowd. Can be cheerfully ignored.

AV.

Amavida
11-05-14, 05:35
Not sure what you mean by "your consular officials", I took it to mean it would apply to all of them.Non Philipine Consular officials.


Other then the actual "Certificate of Good Moral Character" the bill is pretty much redundant for US citizens. Proof of financial capability to support your intended spouse is already required by the US as well as a full criminal background check; done by both the FBI (via the NCIC data base) and the man's state Crime Info Center (local data base).Yanks do. Aussies for one don't. Aussies will be affected. Other sountries I am not familiar with but most less stringent than US.


I doubt it will have any significant impact on the marriage process or truly prevent any abuse / exploitation of Pinays from occurring.As above paragraph.

AV.

Roll Aides
11-05-14, 06:47
Its boiler plate hypocrisy. Standard fare here. Playing to the home crowd. Can be cheerfully ignored.

AV.Indeed, but if there's anyone who hates a 19 year old girl being fucked hard it's a 50 year old woman who hasn't gotten any in a decade.

Anyway, I was just trying to add a little holiday cheer to the proceedings. It's ber already!

GoodEnough
11-06-14, 08:15
Here in the Philippines, the only country where carbon paper is considered state-of-the-art, I had two memetic, but amusing experiences in the course of a single day that I thought might illuminate (if such is needed) how completely antediluvian are the management practices here:

1. Though my MetroBank account was opened in Davao, I now spend most of the workweek in Manila. Today, I needed to deposit Php50,000 cash in my account, for which I was charged a "service fee" of Php100. Why? "Well sir, you're not in Davao, so we have to charge you Php50 for using a Metro Manila branch. Also sir, you're depositing more than Php49,000 so there's an extra fee of Php50," as if now that she explained, it would all make perfect sense.

2. I have a post-paid Smart number, and my wife has a post-paid Globe number. Her contract is at an end, and so I wanted to switch her over to Smart, since I think it's (very) marginally better than Globe. I called my Smart representative and she was nice enough to send someone to my house who got all the paperwork done there, took a copy of my credit card, gave us a new sim and told us that the new number would be active in 24 hours. Now, 72 hours or so later, it's not active. Wondering why, I called the rep who, it turns out, is in Cotabato and can't be reached. Undeterred, I called Smart in Manila, only to be told there's nothing they can do and seemed surprised when I seemed surprised. So today, I got a text from the rep saying that he had no Internet in Cotabato and couldn't activate the sim from there, but would stop by the house tomorrow to collect a Php1,800 deposit. When I asked him (a) why, if he needed cash he didn't collect it 3 days ago when he was at my house and (b) why, since everything gets charged to a credit card of which he has a copy, he needs any cash at all? That was an hour ago and I'm still awaiting the response that will never come. Finally, I got an email from Globe today, telling me my request was being "processed" and the rep would contact me within the next 24 hours with "the results. " So, 3-4 different stories in one day, many of them conflicting, and none of them resulting in an activated sim.

I've no idea what's going to happen to this place in 2015, when, in theory, all of the ASEAN economies will become more integrated, and in theory, any company or citizen from one ASEAN country will be able to work / compete in any other ASEAN country. If this actually occurs, the Philippines will be largely out of business as Singaporean and Malaysian banks and telcos wipe out the local business overnight.

GE.

FreebieFan
11-06-14, 08:32
I've no idea what's going to happen to this place in 2015, when, in theory, all of the ASEAN economies will become more integrated, and in theory, any company or citizen from one ASEAN country will be able to work / compete in any other ASEAN country. If this actually occurs, the Philippines will be largely out of business as Singaporean and Malaysian banks and telcos wipe out the local business overnight.

GE.Your story doesn't surprise but loved the carbon paper state of the art line!

I saw a chart of comparative GDP figures recently and was suprised (others may not be) to realise that the GDP's of both Hong Kong and its equally tiny competitor, Singapore, basically match the GDP of the Philippines. Should the ASEAN integration proceed, and I'm really not sure what the current status of that is, then the Philippines will indeed only go further and further behind.

P.S. English spellings apply above.

Gangles
11-06-14, 17:34
My assessment of the proposed integration is that it will mirror that of the European Union.

In my opinion, formed many years ago, the difficulty with this kind of proposal is that there is an underlying assumption that behaviors and motivations of all of the countries are similar.

The reality is that they are very dissimilar. And this is what has caused the problems with the EU with respect to economies.

Every sovereign nation state has an economic safety valve with respect to its economy, which is the devaluation, or revaluation of its currency.

It was the removal of this safety valve in the EU which created the economic problems that exist now.

Similarly, the same problem will come into being if the Asian countries opt for a common currency. For as long as they each have independent currencies, the problem should not manifest itself.

One possibility is that if a central control agency and central court is created, to develop and maintain rules for interaction and behavior, then this may begin to eradicate some, or much, of the corruption that exists in the Philippines. Then watch the economy take off and fly.

Wow.

For example, the highly corrupted land titling system will be forced to renew itself, and average people will then be able to leverage property to create wealth. Wow.

G


Your story doesn't surprise but loved the carbon paper state of the art line!

I saw a chart of comparative GDP figures recently and was suprised (others may not be) to realise that the GDP's of both Hong Kong and its equally tiny competitor, Singapore, basically match the GDP of the Philippines. Should the ASEAN integration proceed, and I'm really not sure what the current status of that is, then the Philippines will indeed only go further and further behind.

P.S. English spellings apply above.

Gangles
11-06-14, 17:36
Does anybody know if foreigners can legally lease land in the Philippines?

If so, what are the limits and rules?

Happy mongering,

G

Hutsori
11-06-14, 18:47
Does anybody know if foreigners can legally lease land in the Philippines?

If so, what are the limits and rules?

Happy mongering,

GYes. Read this http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno7652.htm#.VFuz6jTF9LC.

Questor55
11-06-14, 20:40
Does anybody know if foreigners can legally lease land in the Philippines?

If so, what are the limits and rules?

Happy mongering,

GSo, yes, as shown by Hutsori, land can be leased by foreigners. No problem, right? Well, this is the Philippines, so there are Always Problems. A major one to consider is the archaic, corrupted, disorganized land title cesspool. How can one be sure that the leaser is the only one with title to the property? The general rule of thumb for businesses and land is that it can be yours until anyone better connected and more powerful, wants it. Welcome Alice, to Wonderland!

Amavida
11-07-14, 05:04
Here in the Philippines, the only country where carbon paper is considered state-of-the-art, I had two memetic, but amusing experiences in the course of a single day that I thought might illuminate (if such is needed) how completely antediluvian are the management practices here:

1. Though my MetroBank account was opened in Davao, I now spend most of the workweek in Manila. Today, I needed to deposit Php50,000 cash in my account, for which I was charged a "service fee" of Php100. Why? "Well sir, you're not in Davao, so we have to charge you Php50 for using a Metro Manila branch. Also sir, you're depositing more than Php49,000 so there's an extra fee of Php50," as if now that she explained, it would all make perfect sense.

2. I have a post-paid Smart number, and my wife has a post-paid Globe number. Her contract is at an end, and so I wanted to switch her over to Smart, since I think it's (very) marginally better than Globe. I called my Smart representative and she was nice enough to send someone to my house who got all the paperwork done there, took a copy of my credit card, gave us a new sim and told us that the new number would be active in 24 hours. Now, 72 hours or so later, it's not active. Wondering why, I called the rep who, it turns out, is in Cotabato and can't be reached. Undeterred, I called Smart in Manila, only to be told there's nothing they can do and seemed surprised when I seemed surprised. So today, I got a text from the rep saying that he had no Internet in Cotabato and couldn't activate the sim from there, but would stop by the house tomorrow to collect a Php1,800 deposit. When I asked him (a) why, if he needed cash he didn't collect it 3 days ago when he was at my house and (b) why, since everything gets charged to a credit card of which he has a copy, he needs any cash at all? That was an hour ago and I'm still awaiting the response that will never come. Finally, I got an email from Globe today, telling me my request was being "processed" and the rep would contact me within the next 24 hours with "the results. " So, 3-4 different stories in one day, many of them conflicting, and none of them resulting in an activated sim.

I've no idea what's going to happen to this place in 2015, when, in theory, all of the ASEAN economies will become more integrated, and in theory, any company or citizen from one ASEAN country will be able to work / compete in any other ASEAN country. If this actually occurs, the Philippines will be largely out of business as Singaporean and Malaysian banks and telcos wipe out the local business overnight.

GE.Things are not much better in my home country with regards to Banks & Telco's but I feel your pain GE, know it well from personal experience. When you develop connections with the 'right people' in the Philippines its amazing how all these problems fade away. No more standing queues, no more frustrating catch 22 bureaucracy. Everything is so easy with a txt / email / call to insiders. Gaining access to the privileged class here is like living in a different country.

With regard to the ASEAN FTA's, many are enthusiastically optimistic and many business people see it as not likely until maybe 2020. Even then it is going to cause a lot of pain.

AV.

Red Kilt
11-07-14, 09:44
. . . <SNIP> . . . A major one to consider is the archaic, corrupted, disorganized land title cesspool. How can one be sure that the leaser is the only one with title to the property? The general rule of thumb for businesses and land is that it can be yours until anyone better connected and more powerful, wants it Questor raises the appropriate flag of caution.

My wife and I sought to buy several parcels of rice farming land in Nthn Luzon 3 or 4 years ago.

We were lucky to have a diligent and well-qualified lawyer.

Out of around 20 titles that we were "offered", probably 15 of them were "invalid", even though they were being held by the current owner.

What transpires is that people sell land to one another simply by exchanging money for the title but then do not take it to the Government Authority for proper endorsement and payment of the transfer fees etc. These fees seem quite low to me but for a subsistence farmer I guess they are too much to contemplate.

When I come along and want to transfer the land into our names (meaning my wife's), the current holder of the title is rarely the owner listed on the title and on the official register, and there are usually several years worth of unpaid and overdue land tax debts due for payment. These can run into the tens of thousands.

If you buy or lease ANY land, be sure to establish the bona fides of the title and be sure that it is free of encumbrances (meaning that all rates and taxes have been paid). Once you do that, then you can obtain quite useful property at a very competitive rate. We do the due diligence, and we exclude the titles that are "shonky".

Even when purchasing the condo that I currently own in Manila, we discovered that there were 2 years of back taxes owing to the local barangay (which was more than 100,000 php). We insisted the seller pay the outstanding fees before purchase could go through, Again, having good, diligent legal support who knows what to look for is essential.

On a side note and as Questor says, leasing (as a foreigner) gives you very little power. If a bigger and stronger filipino decides he or she wants your land, they will find numerous ways to take it from you.

GoodEnough
11-07-14, 10:08
When you develop connections with the 'right people' in the Philippines its amazing how all these problems fade away. No more standing queues, no more frustrating catch 22 bureaucracy. Everything is so easy with a txt / email / call to insiders. Gaining access to the privileged class here is like living in a different country.

AV.Right you are AV. I don't, as a rule go anywhere near any government office, as, over the years I've learned as you have, how to get things done reasonably easily. Today, for example, after I sent a text message to someone I know, my wife's new sim was miraculously activated in 30 minutes. Unfortunately, no connections in the world will save you from occassionally having to cope with Manila's unnavigable traffic.

GE.

Wolvenvacht
11-07-14, 11:07
Every sovereign nation state has an economic safety valve with respect to its economy, which is the devaluation, or revaluation of its currency.

It was the removal of this safety valve in the EU which created the economic problems that exist nowI beg to differ.

If it was not for the EURO and the included removal of this "safety valve" most of the smaller economies of the EU would have been wiped out by the chain of economic and banking crises. Even the larger EU economies would have been too small to withstand the stress. Now it is a matter of "united we stand - like it or not". The larger EURO economies cannot dump the smaller ones anymore.

What we need is more central economic and monetary authority, not less. If Europe had a better auditing authority in place, Greece would have been found out cooking their books much earlier and the problems would have been less.

The USA is a perfect example: does each of the States have their own currency? Can they devaluate / revaluate their currency? Of course not! The idea is preposterous. Then why should European (and in the future, ASEAN) countries still be able to do that? Unless and until the step to a common currency is taken, there will never be a "common" economy and free movement of people, goods and services between the Member states will remain a dream.

Red Kilt
11-07-14, 13:20
Right you are AV. I don't, as a rule go anywhere near any government office, as, over the years I've learned as you have, how to get things done reasonably easily. Today, for example, after I sent a text message to someone I know, my wife's new sim was miraculously activated in 30 minutes. GE.

I am not sure why you had such a problem with your SIM as mentioned above and in a previous post.

My wife and I both obtained new postpaid SIMS from Globe just last week.

Both were activated by a customer assistant as we sat in the Globe office in Podium in Ortigas.

The whole exercise took less than 10 minutes from start to finish.

It was handled most efficiently because we made a personal appearance.

Amavida
11-07-14, 13:53
Questor raises the appropriate flag of caution.

My wife and I sought to buy several parcels of rice farming land in Nthn Luzon 3 or 4 years ago.

We were lucky to have a diligent and well-qualified lawyer.

Out of around 20 titles that we were "offered", probably 15 of them were "invalid", even though they were being held by the current owner.

What transpires is that people sell land to one another simply by exchanging money for the title but then do not take it to the Government Authority for proper endorsement and payment of the transfer fees etc. These fees seem quite low to me but for a subsistence farmer I guess they are too much to contemplate.

When I come along and want to transfer the land into our names (meaning my wife's), the current holder of the title is rarely the owner listed on the title and on the official register, and there are usually several years worth of unpaid and overdue land tax debts due for payment. These can run into the tens of thousands.

If you buy or lease ANY land, be sure to establish the bona fides of the title and be sure that it is free of encumbrances (meaning that all rates and taxes have been paid). Once you do that, then you can obtain quite useful property at a very competitive rate. We do the due diligence, and we exclude the titles that are "shonky".

Even when purchasing the condo that I currently own in Manila, we discovered that there were 2 years of back taxes owing to the local barangay (which was more than 100,000 php). We insisted the seller pay the outstanding fees before purchase could go through, Again, having good, diligent legal support who knows what to look for is essential.

On a side note and as Questor says, leasing (as a foreigner) gives you very little power. If a bigger and stronger filipino decides he or she wants your land, they will find numerous ways to take it from you.I might add that simply paying the due or over due land tax is enough to wrest control of the title from an owner. If you acquire land here via marriage make damn sure those dues are paid!

AV.

Gangles
11-07-14, 22:57
Thanks Hutsori. Very useful.

Reading the provisions and limitations would seem to preclude me from long term lease of land for the purpose of constructing a dwelling.

Too bad.

I am aware of the situation regarding land titling in the Philippines, and I have commented on this several times on this forum.

For several years I worked on a lant titling project in the Philippines. It was more than illuminating, I can tell you.

G


Yes. Read this http://www.chanrobles.com/republicactno7652.htm#.VFuz6jTF9LC.

Questor55
11-08-14, 20:30
This is the first anniversary of Typhoon Yolanda, one of the most devastating storms of all time. Tacloban was the center of the surge that destroyed the city and caused several thousand deaths. Huge international relief effort and many hundreds of millions of dollars collected. The world's focus on this disaster filled the news for the next several weeks. So, today, what's the result of all this grief and worldwide attention? Almost All of the refugees are still in temporary dwellings or cobbled together shacks. Most incredibly, President Acquino has never visited Tacloban! Only in the Philippines.

Amavida
11-08-14, 23:52
GE.

I am not sure why you had such a problem with your SIM as mentioned above and in a previous post.

My wife and I both obtained new postpaid SIMS from Globe just last week.

Both were activated by a customer assistant as we sat in the Globe office in Podium in Ortigas.

The whole exercise took less than 10 minutes from start to finish.

It was handled most efficiently because we made a personal appearance.It can be a throw of the dice though. They can be courteous & efficient other times they can be infuriatingly vague & obstructive. No way to predict in advance. GE's experience is not unusual.

AV.

Amavida
11-09-14, 00:21
This is the first anniversary of Typhoon Yolanda, one of the most devastating storms of all time. Tacloban was the center of the surge that destroyed the city and caused several thousand deaths. Huge international relief effort and many hundreds of millions of dollars collected. The world's focus on this disaster filled the news for the next several weeks. So, today, what's the result of all this grief and worldwide attention? Almost All of the refugees are still in temporary dwellings or cobbled together shacks. Most incredibly, President Acquino has never visited Tacloban! Only in the Philippines.Wall Street Journal covers it comprehensively & much better than I could for those thirsting for pics:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/life-in-the-ruins-typhoon-ravaged-tacloban-still-awaits-aid-1415309402?mod=e2fb

AV.

Econo Tech
11-09-14, 04:51
Most incredibly, President Acquino has never visited Tacloban! Only in the Philippines.Not fair.

Aquino said he has visited Tacloban too many times.

And then his defenders go 'Aceh took 5 years to get back to normalcy'.

Well, Aceh was totally wiped out, vs Tacloban, which had malls and all up and running in a month, so Vs Aceh the damage here was pretty low.

Then again, touch wood, hope not another typhoon will traverse the Tacloban / Leyte area or the apologists will blame the next typhoon.

Maybe it's planning to stretch recovery so there is something happening.

Imagine the trouble if Tacloban was fixed fast and no more typhoon comes. The rulers will have to face other problems.

X Man
11-09-14, 13:41
I think some people need the WSJ password.


Wall Street Journal covers it comprehensively & much better than I could for those thirsting for pics:

http://online.wsj.com/articles/life-in-the-ruins-typhoon-ravaged-tacloban-still-awaits-aid-1415309402?mod=e2fb

AV.

Radical Guy
11-10-14, 17:17
Thanks Hutsori. Very useful.

Reading the provisions and limitations would seem to preclude me from long term lease of land for the purpose of constructing a dwelling.

Too bad.

I am aware of the situation regarding land titling in the Philippines, and I have commented on this several times on this forum.

For several years I worked on a lant titling project in the Philippines. It was more than illuminating, I can tell you.

GIn general, I would never make any significant investment in a third-world country like the Philippines. The laws on the books are only as strong as the ability to enforce your property rights, in court or through the government. Sure, you might get a valid title to land, or improvements to land, but if that title is ever questioned, what is your recourse? I'm a lawyer in the US, and if one has valid title to land, and someone encroaches on it, then courts will entertain a "suit to quiet title," and a judgment will be enforceable. The legal mechanisms in the Philippines are a joke. Better to invest your money in the US or some stable country, and simply pay rent in the Philippines as you go.

RG.

Hutsori
11-12-14, 06:05
All in all I don't find much to whinge about in the Philippines. But golly, sometimes I'm driven to wit's end. Globe Telecom, I'm talking about you. I needed to call their office at Mall of Asia. A google doesn't find me the number. Visited Globe's websites. All the offices are listed with exact address, none with phone numbers. Globe's online chat isn't monitored. I call Globe's customer disservice number. They have no idea what the number is and no email address of a POC either. I'm told to email their customer service team. I do. I receive an automated reply with a link to form I must complete. I start the form and I'm required to provide information that isn't relevant and also other info I don't have; I'm not a globe customer, and it's now certain I will remain that way. This a communication company that can't communicate with its own offices. This is a telco that doesn't know its phone numbers. This is an information technology company without some of the most basic information. /rant

If anyone happens to be at MOA in the north building on the 2nd level could you walk in and ask them what their office telephone number is or some way of communicating to a worker in that exact office I'd really appreciate if you could PM me. Thank you.

GoodEnough
11-12-14, 15:30
All in all I don't find much to whinge about in the Philippines. But golly, sometimes I'm driven to wit's end. Globe Telecom, I'm talking about you. I needed to call their office at Mall of Asia. A google doesn't find me the number. Visited Globe's websites. All the offices are listed with exact address, none with phone numbers. Globe's online chat isn't monitored. I call Globe's customer disservice number. They have no idea what the number is and no email address of a POC either. I'm told to email their customer service team. I do. I receive an automated reply with a link to form I must complete. I start the form and I'm required to provide information that isn't relevant and also other info I don't have; I'm not a globe customer, and it's now certain I will remain that way. This a communication company that can't communicate with its own offices. This is a telco that doesn't know its phone numbers. This is an information technology company without some of the most basic information. /rant

If anyone happens to be at MOA in the north building on the 2nd level could you walk in and ask them what their office telephone number is or some way of communicating to a worker in that exact office I'd really appreciate if you could PM me. Thank you.I can sympathize. I've had a Globe post-paid account for years. About two years ago I switched to Smart and gave the sim on the old account to my wife. The contract for that card expires at the end of the month, and we decided to let it lapse and replace it with a post-paid Smart account. The new account at Smart took about 10 minutes to arrange, though it did take two days for the new number to start working. Ending the contract with Globe, or should I say letting Globe know I had no plan to renew the contract took an hour to get a phone number (I think it's *270 but I'm not sure) and then endless conversations with at least three people. I got so pissed off after about 3 minutes that I had to hand the phone to my wife, who is more tolerant of egregious stupidity than I.

In most legal systems with which I'm familiar, once a contract date has passed, and once all terms and conditions have been met, the contract is over. There's nothing left to do. That's not the case here, and evidently Globe has the right under what passes for a legal system here, just to keep on billing. I tried to inform Globe at one of its offices in Davao of my intention not to renew and was told that I must call Manila and speak to someone there.

It's a terrible company, poorly managed, lousy service and a total indifference to its customers. Smart isn't much better, but I know two people who work in the company and get better service. Plus, at least in Manila and Davao, I think that Smart's signal strength is slightly better.

GE.

Member #4387
11-12-14, 17:09
It's a terrible company, poorly managed, lousy service and a total indifference to its customers. Smart isn't much better, but I know two people who work in the company and get better service. Plus, at least in Manila and Davao, I think that Smart's signal strength is slightly better.GE.I don't know and did not bother to check but are all the phonecompanies in phils owned by the Ayala wing? If that's true they realy don't have to put forward an excellent customer service as people have to use their services anyhow? Am I close?
And who has build the infrasteucture(base stations, computericed terminals etc, phone lines etc etc???). In my country we have this big Telenor company(Dtac in Thailand, they buy themself into many other countries these days as well especially in Asian countries as it is a blooming market in most of them maby except phils as they are slacking behind big time in many ways), they own all infrasteucture and other companies have to rent from their infrasteucture, all the time the norwegian government owns 51% of the Telenor the other companies dont dare to put down the customer services as if they try they get threatned they will loose the access to the infrastructure.

Hutsori
11-12-14, 19:41
I don't know and did not bother to check but are all the phonecompanies in phils owned by the Ayala wing? If that's true they realy don't have to put forward an excellent customer service as people have to use their services anyhow? Am I close?Globe is owned by Ayala and Singtel. The Singaporeans are still shaking their heads in disbelief. Smart is owned by PLDT, which also owns Sun. You know, in 2 years I've never met a person who has a Sun number.


And who has build the infrasteucture(base stations, computericed terminals etc, phone lines etc etc???)Tarsiers. And squirrels.

Roll Aides
11-12-14, 20:35
Globe is owned by Ayala and Singtel. The Singaporeans are still shaking their heads in disbelief. Smart is owned by PLDT, which also owns Sun. You know, in 2 years I've never met a person who has a Sun number.

Tarsiers. And squirrels.Actually, I pretty much use Sun exclusively, I have a smart as a backup and the GF has a smart and a globe. I get better signal in Bacolod on Sun than on anything else, she has to stand outside the apartment to talk on the Smart fairly often. I guess it's regional, who knows.

Dg8787
11-12-14, 22:03
A few years ago I started out with an inexpensive cellphone using smart. It drove me crazy because I would always get a bad connection. Later on I brought over a used unlocked iPhone 4 that I bought for $100 and insert my SIM card. It was amazing how much clearer the calls were. For me it was not the carrier but the cellphone. Of course it doesn't help if the other person is using a crap phone either.

GoodEnough
11-12-14, 23:05
A few years ago I started out with an inexpensive cellphone using smart. It drove me crazy because I would always get a bad connection. Later on I brought over a used unlocked iPhone 4 that I bought for $100 and insert my SIM card. It was amazing how much clearer the calls were. For me it was not the carrier but the cellphone. Of course it doesn't help if the other person is using a crap phone either.True, the quality of the phones makes a difference. However I've got an iPhone 6 and that doesn't stop me from getting dropped calls, garbled transmissions, pitifully slow Internet speeds and generally poor service. I think that both major telecom groups--PLDT and Ayala--don't unvest in systems improvements because the ROI is simply not there. The fact is that most Filipinos do not subscribe to plans, and don't engage in voice calls. Most people here text, and texting doesn't require much in the way of state-of-the-art infrastructure. This, the percentage of the population that's affected by the lack of quality service is quite small.

GE.

Amavida
11-13-14, 01:00
I can sympathize. I've had a Globe post-paid account for years. About two years ago I switched to Smart and gave the sim on the old account to my wife. The contract for that card expires at the end of the month, and we decided to let it lapse and replace it with a post-paid Smart account. The new account at Smart took about 10 minutes to arrange, though it did take two days for the new number to start working. Ending the contract with Globe, or should I say letting Globe know I had no plan to renew the contract took an hour to get a phone number (I think it's *270 but I'm not sure) and then endless conversations with at least three people. I got so pissed off after about 3 minutes that I had to hand the phone to my wife, who is more tolerant of egregious stupidity than I.

In most legal systems with which I'm familiar, once a contract date has passed, and once all terms and conditions have been met, the contract is over. There's nothing left to do. That's not the case here, and evidently Globe has the right under what passes for a legal system here, just to keep on billing. I tried to inform Globe at one of its offices in Davao of my intention not to renew and was told that I must call Manila and speak to someone there.

It's a terrible company, poorly managed, lousy service and a total indifference to its customers. Smart isn't much better, but I know two people who work in the company and get better service. Plus, at least in Manila and Davao, I think that Smart's signal strength is slightly better.

GE.I know your pain & agree PI has its own "special" challenges (grin) but it's not much better in many other countries bro. My ex emailed again this week doing another massive whinge about being billed by her Aussie Telco (Virgin Mobile). It seems she had an iPhone 4 (yeah, how long ago was that!) on contract which expired _years_ ago, she has continued to be billed for it ever since. Don't sweat the small things, life is so very short. At least in the PI you can use your contacts, good luck doing that in a first world country. Sometimes corruption is a good thing (grin).

AV.

Amavida
11-13-14, 05:24
Globe is owned by Ayala and Singtel. The Singaporeans are still shaking their heads in disbelief. Smart is owned by PLDT, which also owns Sun. You know, in 2 years I've never met a person who has a Sun number.

Tarsiers. And squirrels.Sun was a small player that catered the truly desperate and nobody else. They were swallowed up by smart (PLDT) so their network is no different now but the brand has a hard time convincing Pinoys to accept it due to its legacy. In my experience around the PI, in any given location (barangay to barangay) it is literally a 50/50 bet which network (Globe / Smart) is best signal / QoS. Switching back and forth is a regular activity for me as I move around (sigh).

It appears to my untrained eye that Phillippine mobile phone cells, compared to first world mobile phone cells, are fewer & bigger judging by the huge towers spaced far apart.

In my experience even the lowliest Nokia handset is capable of good 2 G reception (voice / text) but there are a ton of crappy Chinese knockoffs around which have poor reception.

Genuine handsets are not your problem.

Less than ideal network infrastructure which is severely congested much like the road transport system is the problem.

AV.

Hutsori
11-13-14, 07:34
Actually, I pretty much use Sun exclusively, Ahhhh, so you're their sole customer. Nice to meet you.


Sun was a small player that catered the truly desperate and nobody else.
Ah, er... Amavida... meet Roll Aides.

I looked at Sun's website and most of its low- and mid-tier promotions allow a Sun customer, and we all know who that is now, to text another Sun customer. Only. Heavens! What good is that?

If PLDT is going to knee-cap Sun it might as well have Smart absorb the whole kit and caboodle, end the Sun brand, and shift the money they pay horsey-faced "brand ambassador" Solenn Heusaff to fix some equipment. But... I reckon someone at Sun (or PLDT) is banging Ms. Heusaff. Roll Aides????

FreebieFan
11-13-14, 07:51
Sun was a small player that catered the truly desperate and nobody else. They were swallowed up by smart (PLDT) so their network is no different now but the brand has a hard time convincing Pinoys to accept it due to its legacy. In my experience around the PI, in any given location (barangay to barangay) it is literally a 50/50 bet which network (Globe / Smart) is best signal / QoS. Switching back and forth is a regular activity for me as I move around (sigh).



AV.You are lucky to be able to complain about actually having a choice of providers.

In China theres China Mobile and China Unicom. They are both owned by China Telecom.

Soon there will be another telecom company " allowing consumers a greater choice " .

This third company will ALSO be owned by China Telecom.

" I thought I was poor as I had no shoes. Then I met a man with no feet".

Hutsori
11-13-14, 07:59
True, the quality of the phones makes a difference. However I've got an iPhone 6 and that doesn't stop me from getting dropped calls, garbled transmissions, pitifully slow Internet speeds and generally poor service. I think that both major telecom groups--PLDT and Ayala--don't unvest in systems improvements because the ROI is simply not there. The fact is that most Filipinos do not subscribe to plans, and don't engage in voice calls. Most people here text, and texting doesn't require much in the way of state-of-the-art infrastructure. This, the percentage of the population that's affected by the lack of quality service is quite small.

GE.The point about texting is certainly true. Calling from my mobile in the Manila to another mobile in Manila the calls drop several times. Using my very same mobile I call my parents' mobiles on the other side of the planet and the quality is very good. And don't get me started about calling a PLDT land line. It takes much less time to physically go the location and speak face-to-face to the person.


It appears to my untrained eye that Phillippine mobile phone cells, compared to first world mobile phone cells, are fewer & bigger judging by the huge towers spaced far apart.
Rent has to be paid to the building owners to allow those towers to be installed. I don't know whether Manila has a height restriction for them, but if one exists I reckon a few pesos in the right hands takes care of that annoyance.

Roll Aides
11-13-14, 08:03
If PLDT is going to knee-cap Sun it might as well have Smart absorb the whole kit and caboodle, end the Sun brand, and shift the money they pay horsey-faced "brand ambassador" Solenn Heusaff to fix some equipment. But... I reckon someone at Sun (or PLDT) is banging Ms. Heusaff. Roll Aides????Ssshhhhhhh Hutsori. . .

Hutsori
11-13-14, 08:08
Ssshhhhhhh Hutsori. . .Jammy bastard ;)

Soapy Smith
11-14-14, 02:26
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life,
Never make a big-breasted woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view,
Get a small-breasted girl to marry you.

http://qz.com/295370/how-alibaba-is-using-bra-sizes-to-predict-online-shopping-habits/

With all due respect DC, I hope you put away a lot for retirement.

Sam 14
11-14-14, 06:23
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life,
Never make a big-breasted woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view,
Get a small-breasted girl to marry you.That's funny Skip. . Sorry, I'll just have to repost this pic.

Questor55
11-15-14, 22:18
If you want to be happy for the rest of your life,
Never make a big-breasted woman your wife.
So from my personal point of view,
Get a small-breasted girl to marry you.

http://qz.com/295370/how-alibaba-is-using-bra-sizes-to-predict-online-shopping-habits/

With all due respect DC, I hope you put away a lot for retirement.Small breasts with perky nipples that become bullets when stimulated is my first choice, Skip.

Rubio Tonto
11-16-14, 02:08
Small breasts with perky nipples that become bullets when stimulated is my first choice, Skip.I don't know what you're talking about.

AlLostInSpace13
11-17-14, 10:22
One thing I'll probably never get used to is the willingness of filipinas to go bareback. WTF! In any other countries, the girls will be yelling condom, but not in Phills. May have something to do with their religion?

Spaceman.

Econo Tech
11-17-14, 13:29
One thing I'll probably never get used to is the willingness of filipinas to go bareback. WTF! In any other countries, the girls will be yelling condom, but not in Phills. May have something to do with their religion?

Spaceman.This was discussed and explained a few tines.

More than religion, as traditional belief says using condom means the Girl is DirTY.

Good girls aren't dirty and good girls are clean.

Go figure that out! LOL.

And adding to the belief pregnancy is Gods Gift or the guy was strong.

After all church adds oil to the fire saying contraceptives are murdering tools.

Don't fret over it, says me.

Sam 14
11-17-14, 18:47
This was discussed and explained a few tines.

More than religion, as traditional belief says using condom means the Girl is DirTY.

I've only been asked once. I just said I'm clean. "OK, just withdraw." Chocha Monger had more to say about it. Sorry, I don't know how to link to the post.


it is true that filipinas hate condoms and love raw nasty sex. guys who arrive in the philippines with sincere intentions to use condoms in each and every sexual encounter eventually find their resolve weakened if not crushed. filipinas will beg, whine and plead for some good old fashioned raw sausage complete with an injection of cream filling. foreigners are perplexed by this seemingly blas attitude filipinas have to being impregnated by complete strangers during casual sexual encounters. unlike western women who choose their impregnator based on his ability to pay a sizeable amount of child support for two decades, filipinas choose the father of their children based on genetics. desirable traits like intelligence, a long snout, eye color, height, a huge penis, etc. can result in filipina begging for your sperms.

"give me baby" is a request heard regularly by foreigners visiting or residing in the philippines. many guys acquiesce and add their genes to the philippine gene pool siring a number of offspring. filipinas are happy to be knocked up by foreigners even when financial support is not forthcoming. the craving for sperm diversity may confound the casual observer but a closer look at local communities provides some understanding of this phenomenon. a visitor to a typical provincial village would soon discover that most of the residents are related to each other. filipino men not wishing to shag their cousins must often visit other villages to find girlfriends or wives. **** is a common problem in the provinces. this may be part of the reason why filipinas prize impregnation by a foreigner. it brings fresh genes into the community and possibly discourages **** ambitions from relatives.

iuds may be an effective form of contraception but filipinas look on any form of contraception with deep suspicion. so, good luck trying to get them to go to a doctor and have some medieval looking hardware installed in their snatch. the religious zealots have done a good job of convincing women that contraception will harm their health and render them permanently barren. as for condoms, you would not have a problem using them to root bar girls but expect them to complain that it hurts their pussy and they don't fancy them. girlfriends are a different matter. they expect you to ride them bareback and cum in their snatch, to do otherwise would be considered an insult and any feelings of affection you express to them will be considered insincere. all you can do is be open to breeding them if you want to keep that loving feeling. you can try to fool them with a vasectomy but after a year or two of frequent sex the girls will start thinking that your dick is too weak to knock them up and they will get a man with intact stones to breed them on the side.

what about stds? if you're riding dirty with multiple sex partners you will catch them eventually. you can't ride the lighting and remain unrep001hed. i know mongers who caught their first dose of gonorrhea on their very first trip to the philippines from the very first girl they screwed and went home with a dick dripping custard as a souvenir. others have a dirty dick but they're asymptomatic and don't even know they're carrying diseases and spreading them around. then there are the lucky ones who haven't run into some sick pussy yet. in the end you pay your money and take your chances. filipinas have some cute euphemisms for stds though, i remember one saying, "my boyfriend gave me fever in my poosay. "

Econo Tech
11-18-14, 06:03
I've only been asked once. I just said I'm clean. "OK, just withdraw." Chocha Monger had more to say about it. Sorry, I don't know how to link to the post.Ah. Withdraw.

Sometimes, the girl changes mind half way and doesn't want you to withdraw, and hugging you with a vice like grip, will whisper "I feel safe this time, shoot inside babe. I want feeling ".

How can we refuse that kind of request?? LOL.

In fact, I have insulted enough 'Good Girls' by asking them if we can use condom, with the standard reply being, "I am not a prosti. " and now I am wiser, and ask casually if that is a safe time. Most of my pickups are non-bar girls (though my hit rate is pretty low, I have to admit.).

Well, maybe bare back is the main attraction for many men to head to PH, though few will admit to it.

Radical Guy
11-19-14, 01:40
Well, maybe bare back is the main attraction for many men to head to PH, though few will admit to it.I will readily admit that I hate HATE using condoms. If I have any doubts about a girl's health or cleanliness, I won't touch her, condom or no condom. I had a vasectomy, so I don't worry about pregnancy, though I don't usually tell the girl unless she's worried about it. In fact, many girls would be turned off at the thought that a man isn't fertile.

RG.

Pantot
11-19-14, 02:17
Good girls aren't dirty and good girls are clean.

Go figure that out! LOL.

And adding to the belief pregnancy is Gods Gift or the guy was strong.

After all church adds oil to the fire saying contraceptives are murdering tools..Exactly. We westerners are used to Catholics who only follow the Catholic edicts that fit their modern lifestyle.

Catholicism there is deeply ingrained. Also sex education is zero. In the past when I brought up the topic of ovulation cycle and the short monthly window of female fertility I might have well have been explaining the Krebs cycle.

To them sex with a condom isn't 'serious' and you are avoiding the natural consequences of the special gift they are giving you. I have had many girls there get angry if I pulled out. They feel its disrespectful. Its like I am going to give you sex you have to deal with all the consequences.

In the past few years I have changed my tune and approach. I shoot it deep with reckless abandon and say don't worry if any thing happens I will take care of you. With a Pinay that's the most powerful aphrodisiac in the known universe.

Easy for me to say since the vasectomy.

X Man
11-19-14, 15:42
You had me worried there for a minute. Until the punchline came.


SNIP

Easy for me to say since the vasectomy.

Pip Jaeger
11-19-14, 23:52
Exactly. We westerners are used to Catholics who only follow the Catholic edicts that fit their modern lifestyle.

Catholicism there is deeply ingrained. Also sex education is zero. In the past when I brought up the topic of ovulation cycle and the short monthly window of female fertility I might have well have been explaining the Krebs cycle.Talking about ovulation cycles is like talking about rocket science with them! Most of them don't even know when they are supposed to get their periods.