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Wicked Roger
12-07-15, 03:57
For me, I don't do the group thing anymore that involve other guys. OTOH, I have photographed several (not playing myself) for the benefit of the players involved. Have a good time PP and gives an FR sometime soon.That is because you are like me Westie. The shy retiring type of man and of course don't want other guy jealous of the size of your todger (I remember the tripod photo that scared so many members LOL).

Nice Guy 99
12-07-15, 08:39
Winner of the Chicago Tribune's Best Tweet of the Week.

"I thought my vasectomy would keep my wife from getting pregnant, but apparently it just changes the color of the baby".Tweet aside, one of the worst decisions I ever made in my life was to be snipped. I swear it changes the intensity of the orgasm but more importantly, after the snip, there were two lovely ladies who wanted to have babies with me and I would have been very happy to do so. Think carefully guys.

Nice Guy 99
12-07-15, 08:40
Tweet aside, one of the worst decisions I ever made in my life was to be snipped. I swear it changes the intensity of the orgasm but more importantly, after the snip, there were two lovely ladies who wanted to have babies with me and I would have been very happy to do so. Think carefully guys.And no Roger, it wasn't her.

Red Kilt
12-07-15, 09:39
Tweet aside, one of the worst decisions I ever made in my life was to be snipped. I swear it changes the intensity of the orgasm but more importantly, after the snip, there were two lovely ladies who wanted to have babies with me and I would have been very happy to do so. Think carefully guys.I also think it changes the intensity of the orgasm but to a higher plane.

It is much better for me (we are, after all, just comparing impressions, aren't we NG?)
My opinion is as good as yours.

It seems to me that you must have had your snip done WITHOUT much due diligence. In 1990 when I had mine done, I went through several "interviews" with a doctor and a psychologist too so that my decision was made for all the right reasons. For you to decide later that you still wanted to have babies with not one but TWO other women makes me think that your decision was taken lightly.

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion to "think carefully guys", and to be sure it is right for you, but, in my case, the vasectomy improved my sex life and, given the choice 100 times again, it would be a no-brainer for me to be snipped 100 times.

Chocha Monger
12-07-15, 10:51
I have seen some past inquiries regarding GoHotels as to whether or not it is girl friendly or monger friendly. It is not! I would go further to say that the entire chain is not adult friendly. Checked into one for a few nights in the provinces after flying in from Manila on short notice because I wanted to get on the ground and look into other higher quality and priced options before negotiating a long-stay rate. GoHotels targets the Filipino budget market and has numerous house rules that you are not informed about upon check-in when they take your nonrefundable payment in advance for your entire stay. If you violate any of their rules some security guy will appear you inform you that such a rule exists and you just broke it. They also assess fines for breaking their rules.

All of the bad reviews they have from Trip Advisor and other online booking sites are well earned. When I first checked out the reviews they seemed mixed with exceptionally high ratings and fair to bad ones. Anyway, after checking it out myself I can say the negative reviews cannot be dismissed as attacks from competitors. I will list some of the House Rules that I found next to the Bible on the bottom shelf of the nightstand in the room:

Prohibited items and activities: For everybody's safety and protection, bringing in of any hazardous items inside GoHotels premises such as, but not limited to, malodorous articles, explosive, volatile or flammable materials, firearms, illegal drugs, alcoholic beverages, bio hazards, heavy machinery and electronic / electrical appliances which may interfere or obstruct with the computer network / systems are strictly prohibited. Likewise, all illegal activities such as, but not limited to, all forms of gambling and prostitution are strictly prohibited and will be reported to the proper authority.

Smoking & eating: Smoking is strictly prohibited inside hotel premises. Eating is only allowed on designated common areas. Violators will be penalized PHP 1,000.00 (One Thousand Philippine Pesos) for EVERY infraction. GoHotels reserves the right, at its sole discretion, to remove from its premises any individual who fails to comply with such rules regardless of the number of infractions.

WATER: Please be advised that water from the faucet is not potable. (There are no signs about the faucet warning of this, and no complimentary bottled water is provided.).

Visitors: Visitors may stay in a registered guest's room only until 10:00 PM.

Room capacity: Each room shall ONLY have a maximum occupancy of two adults and one child.

According to the security guy, they spy on you via CCTV in common areas and housekeeping does more than cleaning. Based on initial level of cleanliness in the room it seems housekeeping spends more time looking for evidence that guest ate in the rooms, drank alcohol, fucked on the sheets, etc. So fines can be accessed. By the way, cleaning is only on demand and there are extra fees for this outside of designated times. VPN ports are also blocked on their free WIFI network and your browser will warn that the network is not to be trusted as certificate information is dodgy and not in accordance with legitimate security practices.

Also, the hotel does not have a fixed pricing for the duration of your stay. The price is much higher on some days and lower on others making budgeting beyond 10 days impossible. As other options exist in the provinces for their average PHP 1,600/ night with more amenities, daily cleaning without extra fees, and no moral / religious rules and unilateral PHP 1,000 penalties it would be advisable to avoid GoHotels and get a real hotel even when conducting a few days reconnaissance before committing to a long stay in the area. Their corporate aim is "to foster a place for every Juan. " Apparently, Juan is happy to pay to have his enjoyment severely circumscribed and penalized by Robinsons Land Corporation. As a foreigner, here is a final consideration in deciding whether you should stay in GoHotels or not. The hotel warns that in the event of items going missing from the room or property damage "appropriate actions shall be taken, such as but not limited to, filing of appropriate criminal actions against the registered guest (s). So, you may find yourself denied exit at immigration because you have a pending criminal case over a missing towel.

MS Clive
12-07-15, 16:06
There was a debate about how much money you can bring or leave with. Turns out it is 10,000 piso - $212 approx.

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2015-12-07/philippines-evaluating-currency-restrictions-to-boost-trading?cmpid=yhoo.headline

Sammon
12-08-15, 02:47
Both are only sparsely reported on here. I'm reluctant to pursue new avenues without a trusted wingman, but am interested in trying both.

On my last visit I asked two taxi guys about dorms or casas, but either they didn't know such places or I didn't know the term they use. Will try again when the opportunity arises. Any old hands with details to share publicly or via PM are appreciated.My experience with dorms or cases is I was buying mangoes regularly from a lady near LA cafe. She asked me if I am interested she could get me nice girls. I said ok, let us see. She took me to a nearby house and I saw 6 girls and some doable. Cost was 1500 LT to take to hotel. I said let me come back because I need to go somewhere. I was not going to take a risk taking the girl. Who knows what scams they are in to and also hygiene of the girls. Looked like girls are for locals. Not sure if the Casa is still there. Next day mango selling lady asked me why I did not take a girl. She said there would have been no problems because she would not have taken me there. I told her I already have a girl in the room.

I do not knowingly take risks.

X Man
12-09-15, 16:05
If you care anything about the environment, the best thing you can do is not have children!

The little funk is going to pollute for the rest o it's 80- years.


I also think it changes the intensity of the orgasm but to a higher plane.

It is much better for me (we are, after all, just comparing impressions, aren't we NG?)
My opinion is as good as yours.

It seems to me that you must have had your snip done WITHOUT much due diligence. In 1990 when I had mine done, I went through several "interviews" with a doctor and a psychologist too so that my decision was made for all the right reasons. For you to decide later that you still wanted to have babies with not one but TWO other women makes me think that your decision was taken lightly.

I wholeheartedly agree with your suggestion to "think carefully guys", and to be sure it is right for you, but, in my case, the vasectomy improved my sex life and, given the choice 100 times again, it would be a no-brainer for me to be snipped 100 times.

Tomasb
12-12-15, 07:31
I left Manila on Thursday afternoon at 2 pm for Subic Bay. I elected to take the Victoria Line bus from their EDSA
Station. Wikitravel and other travel information indicate it takes 2 to 2 1/2 hours to Subic from MNL. This is not the case at all as it took 2 hours just to leave Manila proper due to the heavy traffic. I arrived in Olangapo at 7:15. From there it was a 20 minute taxi to Bareto beach so the actual trip the was 5 1/2 hours.

I did not have a reservation but decided to try Treasure Island Resort. They only had one room available and none for the weekend but did not want to try someplace else by that hour. The room cost was $2500 p and was perfectly awful. The air sounded like a cranky 747, flies were landing on me all night, and the room was as basic as a backpacker hostal one would find in some backwater Bolivian pueblo. They should be charging $20 USD. To add insult to injury, I was awoken at 4 am by some drunken bloke complaining to his date about leaving early in violation of their 'agreement. ' If this guy is reading this, learn to suck it up without waking up everyone else.

The next morning I walked down the path to find the Blue Rock Resort and found a perfectly acceptable room for the same $2500 p, if paid in cash. However, the wifi is not so great and the pool, small to begin with, was undergoing maintenance. I also took a look at Wild Orchard. They have a 20% off promotion on their 3000 p standard room. However, these rooms are not poolside but elsewhere in the hotel so did not bother looking. The pool was large and very nice. Reviews on TA suggest the rooms are dated and the lobby seemed to need a refurbishment. The lobby also has an ATM, which to my knowledge is the only one by the beach area.

One nice thing I found out is the Blue Rock (aka Dryden Group) also owns several clubs including Flash Rat. I bar fined a girl there around 1:30 am but realized in the process I did not have enough cash. No problem as I just signed a chit for the BF and my drink. The hotel also offers one comp drink at Flash Rat. This bar, though on the main road, is the closest to the Blue Rock or about a 5 minute walk. The mamasan was quite nice explaining the bar fine amount ($1600 p) and the tip to the girl, which she said was generally 1000 p. When you BF a girl here, it's for all night unless you want her to leave earlier.

I stopped in a few others owned by the Dryden Group including Lollipop, Wet Spot, and Alaska. The talent at these places seemed to be limited. The last bar I visited before returning to Flash Rat was Voodoo. Apparently, this bar is now owned by an American as he purchased it from the Dryden group recently. The really hot girl issuing the chits is his GF so don't get too excited when you
see her. The GRO there was also nice and told me the tip should be half the BF. BTW, their BF is now $2000 p. She is 41 but still put together nicely, pretty, and mature unlike some of the young girls in there.

The girls at Flash Rat were so-so but there did seem to more energy and people in here than the others. I finally decided on this teeny tiny girl (26 yo) who weighed all of 36 kilo and was 4 foot nothing just for the novelty. That is as petite as I have ever gone. The first time was quite fun. Instead of being shaved, she had almost downy light hair above her clit and she was doing the 'oh 'shit' cry for the first act. She seemed to lose interest on the 2nd go in the morning though I semi forced the issue to conclusion. She also did not want to give a BJ, covered or otherwise, which pissed me off given how I enthusiastically performed DATY. I feel so used!

Today, I am writing this from an off shore island near the town of SanAntonio, which is one hour north of Subic Bay. I took the local bus for under $1 though the private boat excursion costs $1500 p. There are about 4 island offshore in this area. No services but has a sort of Tom Hanks desert island feeling. I saw a few people camping here. A private taxi would probably cost about $100 but it will not get you here any faster.

GreenBud
12-12-15, 09:18
The GRO there was also nice and told me the tip should be half the BF. BTW, their BF is now $2000 p.Has the barfine system changed at Subic Bay, or was she "pulling your leg"? Is there a mandatory tip?

Previously, the barfine covered everything, just like Angeles. The tip was up to you. One of the draws for Subic was that it was generally cheaper than Angeles.

Tomasb
12-12-15, 14:24
The mamasan in Flash Rat told me the tip is usually 1 k pesos. I asked specifically if the BF system was like Angeles. When I gave this amount to my girl, she took it without comment and did not seem really excited by it either.

The GRO at Voodoo, now under different ownership than Flash Rat, told me the tip should be half the BF. Since their new BF rate is 2000p, this would equate to the same tip amount as Flash. Since I heard it twice from separate unrelated sources, it did not appear to be a joke but your question is a good one.

Kind of wondered what would have happened if I did NOT give her anything this morning? This girl lives at Flash Rat in the back of the club so sounds like a shoddy living arrangement with the other girls. I guess that I could have halved it because she was light in the oral department but that seems like a niggardly thing to do since I was pleased overall.


Has the barfine system changed at Subic Bay, or was she "pulling your leg"? Is there a mandatory tip

Previously, the barfine covered everything, just like Angeles. The tip was up to you. One of the draws for Subic was that it was generally cheaper than Angeles.

Mushamisi
12-13-15, 14:53
It usually does not end well for foreign men who have multiple live-in girlfriends in the Philippines, especially when they try to cut off the cash and evict a member of the harem. The foreigner might get a visit from the friendly local policemen and invited to have an extended stay gratis at their fine resort facility for cheeky sex tourists. The other scenario involves the foreigner being robbed and murdered by unknown assailants. The murder usually goes unsolved and quickly turns into a forgotten cold case.

If you have doubts about this, just do a search of local news articles and expat forums. Filipinos only agree to harem arrangements because of a financial interest in the foreigner. Their family and friends will consider the guy to be yet another foreign "babaero" (disparaging local term for a womanizer) there to victimize their women and deserving of whatever nastiness they decide to mete out to him. Their desperation to hang on should be a cause for concern not flattery. Desperate people do desperate things. When the goose stops laying golden eggs Filipinos would not hesitate butchering it for meat, especially if they think the goose will lay golden eggs for a rival.I know another monger who did the same thing a while back in states. Two pros in a house. He ended it when one broke (using a key she stole) into his house after she threw a fit over one of his friends. She lay next to him until he woke up then said, "I could have killed you". I had warned him before that the rivalry was not flattering nor was their clinging. She left but later called him from prison like she was his GF.

Sadly there are too many mongers who get inflated egos then meet an early deadline cause they "Can handle the situation".

Dg8787
12-15-15, 15:00
My flight yesterday was one of the ones cancelled due to Typhoon Nona. I was surprise that once the weather cleared a little CP sent a couple unscheduled flights. Of course it was a little hectic to me to be waiting on standby to find out if I was on the plane or not. But I sat there patiently as about 50 others. The flight was full but I did get on to Manila. Now Manila T-3 was so crowded and the traffic was so slow due the the torrential rain and probably flooding. I did see some flooded streets as we were landing.

Never the less I was impressed by CP getting flights going a day later.

Makeupaname
12-16-15, 02:41
I arrive at T3 just after midnight, and my flight to Cebu isn't until 5 AM.

Is there a place in T3 I can buy a local sim card around 1-2 AM?

Or in the Cebu airport between 6-7 AM.

Hutsori
12-16-15, 07:20
I arrive at T3 just after midnight, and my flight to Cebu isn't until 5 AM.

Is there a place in T3 I can buy a local sim card around 1-2 AM?

Or in the Cebu airport between 6-7 AM.I don't know the time the Smart and Globe SIM vendor booths at NAIA close but they may still be open. 7-11 and Mini Stop have locations there. There is also a small sari-sari convenience store. If they are closed or don't have SIMs then across the street from NAIA terminal 3 is Resorts World, and in the Remington Hotel building there is a 7-11 where you can buy a SIM. If you don't want to walk across the road or are too encumbered by luggage you can also ask an airport security guard because some of those guys sell them. YMMV with this, and I'm sure there will be a few comments warning about this. Certainly check to make sure the SIM hasn't expired. Up to you.

The most important thing is buying the correctly sized SIM, so you need to know what kind your mobile uses.

BrainDrain
12-17-15, 05:10
I arrive at T3 just after midnight, and my flight to Cebu isn't until 5 AM.

Is there a place in T3 I can buy a local sim card around 1-2 AM?

Or in the Cebu airport between 6-7 AM.I've seen the vendor booths in T3 main foyer (landside) still open and doing business at 1 am.

They also have a Tourist promotion for a free SIM. Also sell recharge cards (minimum P500).

Although it doesn't help the original poster, when I am leaving the country each time part of my standard ops is to take a Globe P300 recharge with me. I am usually returning within 4-5 months and the original SIM has always worked.

Incidentally, a midnight arrival and a 5 am flight isn't really that much time. Getting through customs, bags has taken me up to 90 minutes, plus add 30 minutes for a late arrival. Plus getting to your Cebu Pacific checkin, queueing, going through your round of checkpoints and you should just make it. .

Please check and double check your arrival and departure terminals.

BD.

Makeupaname
12-18-15, 02:31
Thanks Hutsori and Braindrain.

I have no luggage, only carry on. And connecting flight is the same terminal. So I think I have enough time on arrival in Manila even with a delay, but not time enough to get to Resort world.

BrainDrain
12-18-15, 03:59
Thanks Hutsori and Braindrain.

I have no luggage, only carry on. And connecting flight is the same terminal. So I think I have enough time on arrival in Manila even with a delay, but not time enough to get to Resort world.Enjoy. When at T3 arrival level, you need to go to the extreme ends of the terminal to get up to the departures level. If you peek outside on the arrival level, the dragon security will force you to go to the ends and be re-screened. Stupid.

There are lots of coffee shops with wi-fi.

I am doing a similar transit early next year, arrive 11 pm, depart 8 am. I'm thinking with this I will have time to go SOGO and ESDA.

Dg8787
12-18-15, 07:52
If you plan on coming back to Phil it is always good to have an extra SIM card on hand. Also load cards too. Smart load cards have an expiration date on them. I generally use an online load service like aryty.com and load a day before coming. When the plane touches down I have instant service. I have a special unlocked older iPhone for visits and it retains the numbers and texts. So it is easy to pick up where I left off from the last visit.

It is easy to just use a new SIM card to get rid of pesky girls. What is nice about the iPhone is it has a block call and a do not disturb function.

X Man
12-18-15, 14:47
I'm using a very old Nokio dual SIM which I paid less than 1 k peso and it allows me to block. Load has expiration dates, but SIM is usually good to go if you come at least once a year. It's also easy to pick up where I left off, but I can never remember where I left off!


If you plan on coming back to Phil it is always good to have an extra SIM card on hand. Also load cards too. Smart load cards have an expiration date on them. I generally use an online load service like aryty.com and load a day before coming. When the plane touches down I have instant service. I have a special unlocked older iPhone for visits and it retains the numbers and texts. So it is easy to pick up where I left off from the last visit.

It is easy to just use a new SIM card to get rid of pesky girls. What is nice about the iPhone is it has a block call and a do not disturb function.

Mbsl65
12-20-15, 01:29
I spent total 33 days in Thailand and Philippines. I had a very good time by meeting with my contacts. Especially Thailand was awesome. I came back to USA thru Vancouver, BC airport and they do have US Customs there. They questioned almost 3. 5 hrs due to my visit to both countries and went thru every electronic devices I did have in my possession. I took only few nude pictures and they were X rated and everything was kosher but it became a total harassment. So, you need to be careful what you are bringing back home. It was a negative experience for me what I went thru at customs.

Member #4387
12-20-15, 18:38
Enjoy. When at T3 arrival level, you need to go to the extreme ends of the terminal to get up to the departures level. If you peek outside on the arrival level, the dragon security will force you to go to the ends and be re-screened. Stupid.

There are lots of coffee shops with wi-fi.

I am doing a similar transit early next year, arrive 11 pm, depart 8 am. I'm thinking with this I will have time to go SOGO and ESDA.You seem like a nice chapso I tell you know SOGO is only short time hotels. You could ofcourse pick girl from EDSA and bring her to a SOGO hotel.

Member #4387
12-20-15, 19:03
Not that it matters but some bloke did call my phil phone here tonight. Strangly Smart works in Taiwan where I am at now. If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Don't be so jealousIf you can't control your girls you simply can't.

MrWoolyBooly
12-20-15, 20:15
Not that it matters but some bloke did call my phil phone here tonight. Strangly Smart works in Taiwan where I am at now. If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Don't be so jealousIf you can't control your girls you simply can't.Well it wasn't me, but was it Abby from Cavite or Mandaluyong? You have to be specific! Haha.

Member #4387
12-20-15, 21:16
Well it wasn't me, but was it Abby from Cavite or Mandaluyong? You have to be specific! Haha.I only talked to the guy so didn't ask. He was kind of hostile I might add.
As i am in Hong Kong now i feel kind of safe and ex WR no one realy knows when i am in town:-)

MrWoolyBooly
12-21-15, 03:45
I only talked to the guy so didn't ask. He was kind of hostile I might add.
As i am in Hong Kong now i feel kind of safe and ex WR no one realy knows when i am in town:-)A real man's perfect ending: Age 91 getting caught by a jealous BF with his 19 year old GF. We all have to go some day!

James Bond 1
12-21-15, 04:08
I spent total 33 days in Thailand and Philippines. I had a very good time by meeting with my contacts. Especially Thailand was awesome. I came back to USA thru Vancouver, BC airport and they do have US Customs there. They questioned almost 3. 5 hrs due to my visit to both countries and went thru every electronic devices I did have in my possession. I took only few nude pictures and they were X rated and everything was kosher but it became a total harrasment. So, you need to be careful what you are bringing back home. It was a negative experience for me what I went thru at customs.Will they force you to unlock devices? Obviously they can't access a locked / encrypted device, but would they keep you out of the country or something if you refused to show them your files?

Wicked Roger
12-21-15, 09:20
Not that it matters but some bloke did call my phil phone here tonight. Strangly Smart works in Taiwan where I am at now. If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Don't be so jealousIf you can't control your girls you simply can't.On that note a good friend had something similar but a text message from what he thought was the husband but turned out a very jealous ex boyfriend (pinoy of course!

The message was in bad English but the jist was that the pinoy was going to find my friend, shove a gun up his backside and pull the trigger. He also reminded him he was ex army (not spelt correctly either in the text) and would track him until he found him.

Caused my friend a slight moment of hesitation until he saw the cutie again who explained everything and shagged him all night as a apology LOL.

I had one guy text me I between rounds at a Sogo asking who I was he found a message about 'load' on her phone while she was sleeping. He thought she was his 'one and only' and never shagged around. Well I helped disperse that myth LOL.

But as Skogis was at the time, best be out of range (so to speak).

Blanquiceleste
12-21-15, 15:06
Headed to Manila next week. In all my earlier trips I had carried PHP cash to tide over for at least a week. However, lately after reading reports on the 10 K limit I prefer not to push my luck and simply exchange currency in Manila. I also read that the money changers inside the NAIA terminal building are reasonably competitive. Read a few more reports about Ermita having thousands of money changers and P Burgos having a couple.

From more recent experience, could anyone guide me on reliable places to change money? I am staying at Century Park on Ocampo. Thanks.

WestCoast1
12-21-15, 15:58
From more recent experience, could anyone guide me on reliable places to change money? I am staying at Century Park on Ocampo. Thanks.Exchanged money in T3 recently at p47.10 to $1 USD. Shortly after in the province a street exchanger offered me 47.15 to $1 USD.

Mbsl65
12-21-15, 17:32
Will they force you to unlock devices? Obviously they can't access a locked / encrypted device, but would they keep you out of the country or something if you refused to show them your files?If you are US Citizen or Legal Resident, they can not stop the entry but they can start legal procedures / investigation against you. Since I did not and I will not have anything illegal in my possession, I had no problem giving my security codes. However, in a case a refusal, they can keep the devices as an evidence and seek for court authorization. Most important, you don't want to lie to a Federal agent, if you do a serious problem can occur. I handled it in a very professional manner with no emotions. So, if it happens to you, best thing is to cooperate.

Mbsl65
12-21-15, 17:37
Headed to Manila next week. In all my earlier trips I had carried PHP cash to tide over for at least a week. However, lately after reading reports on the 10 K limit I prefer not to push my luck and simply exchange currency in Manila. I also read that the money changers inside the NAIA terminal building are reasonably competitive. Read a few more reports about Ermita having thousands of money changers and P Burgos having a couple.

From more recent experience, could anyone guide me on reliable places to change money? I am staying at Century Park on Ocampo. Thanks.If you are a US resident, PNB offers a savings account "Global Filipino". You can put up to $2100/ month. I opened one of these accounts and accumulated around $5000 K in it. So, when I go to Philippines, I do withdraw money as I needed. Also if you have a problem any PNB officer can help you to replace the card on the spot. No ATM fees or exchange fees and you also get the best available rate on the spot.

Blanquiceleste
12-21-15, 19:09
Exchanged money in T3 recently at p47.10 to $1 USD. Shortly after in the province a street exchanger offered me 47.15 to $1 USD.


If you are a US resident, PNB offers a savings account "Global Filipino". ....

....and you also get the best available rate on the spot.Westie & Mbsl. Thanks for the advice. For now I will settle for exchange at T3. The savings bank account sounds like a cool thing to do.

Mbsl65
12-22-15, 11:36
Not that it matters but some bloke did call my phil phone here tonight. Strangly Smart works in Taiwan where I am at now. If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Don't be so jealousIf you can't control your girls you simply can't.It happened to me several times. Best thing is to ignore and cut the relationship. Matter of fact one of them was an angry husband from Florida and his wife gave my number to him to make him jealous. It is hard to understand the mind of Pinays. Just move on the next.

Red Kilt
12-22-15, 13:06
It happened to me several times. Best thing is to ignore and cut the relationship. Matter of fact one of them was an angry husband from Florida and his wife gave my number to him to make him jealous. It is hard to understand the mind of Pinays. Just move on the next.I think it's worth a more careful warning.

Filipinas especially don't seem to guard their phones closely enough and you cannot be sure who is reading the text message.

I have posted cautionary advice before about the potential perils of putting too much information on text messages. I described how I sent a text to a friend in Cebu whilst I was in the taxi heading to my hotel telling her I was back in town and hoped we could meet. Within 2 minutes I received a call from a very angry guy who said he was her husband and that if I met his wife he would kill me. Luckily I didn't tell her where I was staying. It scared the crap out of me and I immediately deleted her number.

During the same trip one of my friends staying at Beverley Boutique foolishly texted his friend that he was at the BB Hotel and to meet him there. Not long after there was a call from the front desk saying there was a guy wanting to see him. Reception called him first and my friend told them not to let they guy come in or tell him the room number, as he assumed it was someone connected to the girl. He scarpered out the side entrance and went to Robinson's for an hour or two, then returned later and immediately checked out to another hotel. Lesson learned. Luckily he never gave the girl the room number in his text as security would not have prevented him from coming straight up.

Angry filipino guys fight dirty and usually in groups, so no matter whether you fancy yourself as a martial arts expert or you're invincible they will be likely to do some damage. Not worth spoiling your holiday.

Take away advice: Don't give out personal information in texts if you're not sure where the girl is; relay it verbally where possible. It could even be her husband or BF texting you from downstairs.

Mbsl65
12-22-15, 18:32
I think it's worth a more careful warning.

Filipinas especially don't seem to guard their phones closely enough and you cannot be sure who is reading the text message.
Take away advice: Don't give out personal information in texts if you're not sure where the girl is; relay it verbally where possible. It could even be her husband or BF texting you from downstairs.I totally agree with you. You put into much better perspective.

Wicked Roger
12-22-15, 22:46
I think it's worth a more careful warning.

Filipinas especially don't seem to guard their phones closely enough and you cannot be sure who is reading the text message.

Take away advice: Don't give out personal information in texts if you're not sure where the girl is; relay it verbally where possible. It could even be her husband or BF texting you from downstairs.I concur and even have a 'code word (s)" with some in case their pinoy husband / BF (s) want to answer. Failing hat and I suspect something is not right I ask a series of innocuous questions seeing if the answer is what I expect (as the guy won't know). Then I decide what the next steps are.

GoodEnough
12-23-15, 02:37
Just wanted to alert potential punters that the US Embassy has issued a very strong alert citing intelligence information pertaining to the dangers of traveling to the usual Muslim areas in Mjndanao, plus Borocay. The Embassy has alerted US citizens to threats of kidnapping and possible terrorist activities in these areas and urges extreme caution.

GE.

MrWoolyBooly
12-24-15, 05:12
Just wanted to alert potential punters that the US Embassy has issued a very strong alert citing intelligence information pertaining to the dangers of traveling to the usual Muslim areas in Mjndanao, plus Borocay. The Embassy has alerted US citizens to threats of kidnapping and possible terrorist activities in these areas and urges extreme caution.

GE.Thanks for the unusual notice about Boracay. I've never been there, but every girl asks me to take her. Mindanao: Even if a guy is so in love with a girl that he's willing to risk life and limb in the usual dangerous areas, better to risk merely being scammed of travel expenses getting her to Manila or Davao or Cebu. For lust, there's no point in going. For love, there's no point in warning.

GoodEnough
12-24-15, 07:26
Thanks for the unusual notice about Boracay. I've never been there, but every girl asks me to take her. Mindanao: Even if a guy is so in love with a girl that he's willing to risk life and limb in the usual dangerous areas, better to risk merely being scammed of travel expenses getting her to Manila or Davao or Cebu. For lust, there's no point in going. For love, there's no point in warning.I believe Palawan was also cited as a potential trouble spot. Take care everyone, and all the best for the coming holidays.

WestCoast1
12-24-15, 08:23
Exchanged money in T3 recently at p47.10 to $1 USD. Shortly after in the province a street exchanger offered me 47.15 to $1 USD.Overnight recently the exchange rate at street vendors dropped from the low 47's to the low-mid 46's.

WestCoast1
12-24-15, 08:58
The topic makes more sense here.


As far as guys pay for it one way or the other, it is certainly not true in my relationship, my girlfriend is a professional very well educated,beautiful thai girl with her own company who earns more money per month than myself and needs no funds from me, we both work, we both share living expenses, we both treat each other to meals. Days out and we both buy the other the occasional gifts, I spend the same as her per month roughly and vice versa.

I do fully accept that many good girls, wives expect the guy to always pay just like a prostitute does and many a guy has been taken to the cleaners in divorce from good and bad girls, it just has not happened to me, when I date I date girls who can take care of themselves, when I want some quick fun I pay a prostitute, as I say I do not confuse the two, my girlfriend is for the I love you and cuddling up at night because she means it, my prostitutes are for sex and pure fun, nothing more.

i hope no members take offence.No offense taken. Napa your situation is not the type I was talking about. I was talking about married guys who don't see the similarities between hookers, girlfriends, and wives. Couple of thoughts. First, you are not married, you have a GF, and neither party is required to care for the other financially.

Second, even if you were married, your situation is the rare exception to the rule: Married men are usually the breadwinner, married women are usually not the breadwinner (although she may share in part of that). Across the globe, and across time, this is a rule (which, in modern times / economy, may be changing -- slightly). I'm sure some countries keep statistics on who earns how much money (sexes, ethnicities, etc). If you want to have a good honest look, go to any family Court and watch the proceedings for a few days (or a few months). You will not see a man bring cause to get spousal support from his wife. You will see many wives seeking said support from the husband. That's because men have the money (or access to it) or a job, and women want it (and are often entitled to it).

When a man says to me that we all pay for it one way or the other (true, I believe), then later tells me the context or situation was different because one person was married, he is fooling himself.

Say, for example: There's a college-age girl who sleeps with me on a regular basis, for goodies (friends, with benefits for both). We established a price we agreed upon. Later she got into trouble with drugs. I stopped seeing her for a while, with her begging at times. We worked out a deal where I started paying some of her debts, or buying her things, as opposed to giving her money. At one point she wanted a couch for her apartment. The cost was 3 x our normal overnight rate. She agreed to do the 3 nights, and I paid for the couch and delivery. All went well. I think that's a textbook definition of prostitution.

One of my buddies had to buy his wife a bedroom set of furniture in order to get sex. I think those two scenarios (myself and my buddy) are identical situations. After his divorce, he made an impassioned case that his situation was different: he was married. He called my girl a 'hooker'. Jesus de Christo man, wake up. To say that your wife or girlfriend is different than a hooker is simple semantics. If you are providing for her, you are providing for her. There is a simple test for any woman (street walker, girlfriend, or wife), to find out if she's a hooker or not: stop providing for her. If she continues f*cking you, then its LOVE. If she drops you like a hot rock, then it's prostitution. While prostitution is the world's oldest profession, marriage tends to be the world's oldest legal form of prostitution.

No offense gents, just an opinion.

GoodEnough
12-24-15, 09:58
Overnight recently the exchange rate at street vendors dropped from the low 47's to the low-mid 46's.Strange as the official rate today is 47.17 to the dollar.

Blanquiceleste
12-24-15, 14:16
Strange as the official rate today is 47.17 to the dollar.Must be the Christmas Cut. Or some other wonderful Pinoy logic being applied to the rates. I have never tried to negotiate a rate or argue about the rate with an exchange chap, because most often the differential between a bank rate and a exchange shop rate is reasonable & understandable. But when it starts looking like more than 1 Peso, has anyone tried to question this?

I have not picked up any news of a massive currency fluctuation anywhere.

Sxxxx
12-24-15, 15:15
Must be the Christmas Cut. Or some other wonderful Pinoy logic being applied to the rates. I have never tried to negotiate a rate or argue about the rate with an exchange chap, because most often the differential between a bank rate and a exchange shop rate is reasonable & understandable. But when it starts looking like more than 1 Peso, has anyone tried to question this?

I have not picked up any news of a massive currency fluctuation anywhere.The official rate and the rate you get are normally two different things, in the real world. The Official doesn't give you the rate, the money changer does, LOL. If a differential of one pesos or more, then someone is making money. Watch for sleight of hand, if the rate is too good. Any rate, I have to go and eat my Christmas dinner. Ooorooo!

Blanquiceleste
12-25-15, 08:45
Just when we thought there was no one who came close to the mighty Skogis in the Olympic Boinking Competition. This emerges! How many on this forum can claim a 5 figure tally?

Disclaimer. No disrespect to anyone.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/japan-teacher-who-paid/2376846.html?cx_tag=undefined&cid=tg:recos:undefined:standard#cxrecs_s

The lighter vein aside, this dude has done some pretty nasty stuff I would not want to talk about, but all I can say is that he is getting off pretty easy for his crimes.

LifeIsABeach
12-25-15, 20:47
Are ALL Philippians deranged psychopaths or just 99% that you screw them one night and are then besieged with 500 text messages a day, followed by asking when to marry them and have the Philippines minimum 5 children?

JPF
12-25-15, 20:52
Just when we thought there was no one who came close to the mighty Skogis in the Olympic Boinking Competition. This emerges! How many on this forum can claim a 5 figure tally?

Disclaimer. No disrespect to anyone.

http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/japan-teacher-who-paid/2376846.html?cx_tag=undefined&cid=tg:recos:undefined:standard#cxrecs_s

The lighter vein aside, this dude has done some pretty nasty stuff I would not want to talk about, but all I can say is that he is getting off pretty easy for his crimes.What most impressed me was that Yuhei Takashima has sex with women from 14 to 70. Yes, it's disgusting that he went with [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls. However, if he also boinked women of 70 he was not strictly a [CodeWord910] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910). Perhaps the 70 year old was an outlier (I'd like to see the frequency distribution by age) but he seems like an all purpose sex addict.

WestCoast1
12-25-15, 23:37
Are ALL Philippians deranged psychopaths or just 99% that you screw them one night and are then besieged with 500 text messages a day, followed by asking when to marry them and have the Philippines minimum 5 children?Um. I think you've just described a standard part of the culture, which we've been discussing for years.

LifeIsABeach
12-26-15, 04:39
This emerges! How many on this forum can claim a 5 figure tally? Disclaimer. No disrespect to anyone.
http://www.channelnewsasia.com/news/asiapacific/japan-teacher-who-paid/2376846.html?cx_tag=undefined&cid=tg:recos:undefined:standard#cxrecs_s He started way early and wasn't picky. I wish I had instead of having girlfriends. I can only claim 2,000 and counting. I think most long term mongers can claim 4 figures.

Jack Burton
12-26-15, 07:16
Are ALL Philippians deranged psychopaths or just 99% that you screw them one night and are then besieged with 500 text messages a day, followed by asking when to marry them and have the Philippines minimum 5 children?You say that as though that is a bad thing! I am shocked and saddened. I would be happy with just 4-5 like that I am sure that when I finally pay for that membership, I will be besieged with offers (probably from punters wishing to punt, to mix British and American metaphors).

Jack Burton
12-26-15, 07:23
Overnight recently the exchange rate at street vendors dropped from the low 47's to the low-mid 46's.Not just street vendors. I trade (as a hobby. It doesn't count as a living until I make more than my last bad job) and also saw the tick down vs the php. Bigger move than the euro, but nothing to lose sleep over. Yet.

Jack Burton
12-26-15, 07:37
If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Not me! The Abby I most wanted to f* attended MSU, but her foreign BF, I believe, was most Unorthodox, and I prefer not being on a last name basis with the PNP.

Mbsl65
12-26-15, 13:28
Not that it matters but some bloke did call my phil phone here tonight. Strangly Smart works in Taiwan where I am at now. If it was some of you guys calling me 30 min ago I just want to say I fucked her (Abby) but its long time ago. Don't be so jealousIf you can't control your girls you simply can't.I have question about this famous Abby. Does she have a small kid? And she 23 yrs old?

Member #4387
12-26-15, 14:40
I have question about this famous Abby. Does she have a small kid? And she 23 yrs old?Must be like a year plus or sth since I nailed her but due to the mentioned call I checked my phone and rightfully so I did have one Abby listed. Have no remembrance of her whatsoever (baby, age the lot). But since she is in my phone I fucked her bcs I go through my phone quite often and delete girls numbers of which I didn't or wouldn't fuck.

Mbsl65
12-27-15, 02:18
Must be like a year plus or sth since I nailed her but due to the mentioned call I checked my phone and rightfully so I did have one Abby listed. Have no remembrance of her whatsoever (baby, age the lot). But since she is in my phone I fucked her bcs I go through my phone quite often and delete girls numbers of which I didn't or wouldn't fuck.Google contacts has an awesome CRM function and I do use indexing system based on my visits. I go back and revisit my lists too. You be amazing what data mining can do.

Member #4387
12-27-15, 04:27
Google contacts has an awesome CRM function and I do use indexing system based on my visits. I go back and revisit my lists too. You be amazing what data mining can do.Hehe I know Sir. It happens so I only like my girlie biz to be on a scrapbook kind of level and except the numbers I store for girls I fuck I have no recollections many months back as I run a quite heavy scheduel. Fewer signs I leave electronicaly the better.

Mbsl65
12-28-15, 01:30
Hehe I know Sir. It happens so I only like my girlie biz to be on a scrapbook kind of level and except the numbers I store for girls I fuck I have no recollections many months back as I run a quite heavy scheduel. Fewer signs I leave electronicaly the better.Since I am single and I have no one to answer, it is OK for me. I do data mining sometimes and revisit some of the nice ladies who gave me good times in the past.

GreenBud
12-28-15, 12:13
As most of you guys have observed (except for those fakes on this site), the girls will usually close or lock the bathroom door. I never looked.

On my last night in Angeles, I was in the shower and the girl came inside to go to the bathroom. The toilet seat was up. She took a piece of toilet paper and wiped, sat down on the toilet with the seat up, and urinated.

I explained how the toilet seat worked. She didn't know.

Sammon
12-28-15, 18:00
As most of you guys have observed (except for those fakes on this site), the girls will usually close or lock the bathroom door. I never looked.

On my last night in Angeles, I was in the shower and the girl came inside to go to the bathroom. The toilet seat was up. She took a piece of toilet paper and wiped, sat down on the toilet with the seat up, and urinated.

I explained how the toilet seat worked. She didn't know.Some Phi girls cannot do anything without sqatting. This is what they are used to. But AC girls should know this unless the girl is fresh from the provinces.

Dg8787
12-28-15, 22:25
Some Phi girls cannot do anything without sqatting. This is what they are used to. But AC girls should know this unless the girl is fresh from the provinces.They build up their muscle from squatting which is great cowgirl action or more like riding like a jockey. Dang such memories it brings up!

I have had some girls who do not flush the toilet after each use. Some have never seen a flushing toilet before.

I have had girls who squat with their feet on the toilet rim washing and hosing their V and then take a shower.

I have had them squat on the toilet seat with their feet washing and hosing their V.

A few girls that I have seen before will shower quickly and then we do a pop and they get back into the shower to shampoo and condition their hair for the next 30 minutes. Then blow dry their hair for another 20 minutes. By then I am ready again. I always keep girlie shampoo and conditioner on hand. 99% have such lovely long thick soft hair.

Many will shower in cold water only. I had one girl who would shower in warm water for over 30 minutes during intermission.

What is surprising how clean they are and their clothes with limited bathing and laundry facilities.

Such a variety!

Hutsori
12-29-15, 07:53
I have had girls who squat with their feet on the toilet rim washing and hosing their V and then take a shower.

I have had them squat on the toilet seat with their feet washing and hosing their V.

Have 'em do a handstand. It's like a shooting fountain. Add coloured lights and music and I'll be just like the water show at Manila Ocean Park.

Red Kilt
12-29-15, 10:46
I thought this was some sort of New Year joke (like an April's Fool thing) but it seems it's real.

http://mic.com/articles/131093/these-real-women-want-to-show-you-how-to-give-them-an-orgasm?utm_source=policymicFB&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=WHFacebook&utm_content=inf_10_285_2&tse_id=INF_2f1de6c894c84ec1b8444996caee3945#. CjEXKOqAc.

Dg8787
12-29-15, 21:21
Most girls lack proper hygiene of their V. There are many exterior wash on the market but I haven't seen any douches on the shelves. Finally one day I went to Manson Drugs with a girl to explain what a douche was. There were no disposables ones at all! I went to the drug counter to ask the girl about it. After a minute of futile discussions she whips out one wrapped in clear cellophane to my surprise and holds it up shoulder high. "Is this what you are looking for?" (And might I add to the surprise of the other 18 customers.) Haha, yes it certainly is!

Of course there wasn't any douche solution available but we bought some lube for safe insertion, being it will be her first time.

Then we went and bought some vinegar. I forget what the mixture ratio to water but easily Google search will provide it. The main thing I caution her was to use bottled water. No need to risk infections with city tap water. I imagine 3*+ hotels have clean tap water but why risk it.

Next thing I know her friends want one, LOL. I advised her that this is not an item to share. I think it was 300+ pesos at Manson Drugs.

I will tell you that the girls perform and enjoy sex better douching before hand. Make sure they understand this in NOT contraception.

Part of my items to bring on my next trip is disposable douche, which the bottles can be reused again and again.

Hutsori
12-30-15, 07:56
There are many exterior wash on the market but I haven't seen any douches on the shelves. Finally one day I went to Manson Drugs with a girl to explain what a douche was. There were no disposables ones at all! I went to the drug counter to ask the girl about it. After a minute of futile discussions she whips out one wrapped in clear cellophane to my surprise and holds it up shoulder high. "Is this what you are looking for?" (And might I add to the surprise of the other 18 customers.) Haha, yes it certainly is!

Of course there wasn't any douche solution available but we bought some lube for safe insertion, being it will be her first time.

Part of my items to bring on my next trip is disposable douche, which the bottles can be reused again and again.What a gift! Customs declaration: chocolate, lingerie, dildos, douchebags.

If you're talking about a douchebag with the hose or a bottle with a long applicator tip, yes it's uncommon and little known. Truth be told, presuming a woman has a good diet and no medical issues the prevailing medical advice says avoid douching. Taking antibiotics may throw off a woman's own vaginal balance and may lead to yeast infections.

Lactacyd and pH Care are the two brands common here. Neither are a douche, but they can be used internally as a 'feminine wash' - the length of the girl's finger dictates how far up they get in there. Sometimes they stick the shower head up there to give it a good rinse, too. The makers add a skin whitening agent to it sometimes to play up on one of a woman's million anxieties. Available in bottles and single-use sachets. The wash, not the anxiety.

Dg8787
12-30-15, 18:18
What a gift! Customs declaration: chocolate, lingerie, dildos, douchebags.

If you're talking about a douchebag with the hose or a bottle with a long applicator tip, yes it's uncommon and little known. Truth be told, presuming a woman has a good diet and no medical issues the prevailing medical advice says avoid douching. Taking antibiotics may throw off a woman's own vaginal balance and may lead to yeast infections.

Lactacyd and pH Care are the two brands common here. Neither are a douche, but they can be used internally as a 'feminine wash' - the length of the girl's finger dictates how far up they get in there. Sometimes they stick the shower head up there to give it a good rinse, too. The makers add a skin whitening agent to it sometimes to play up on one of a woman's million anxieties. Available in bottles and single-use sachets. The wash, not the anxiety.I am talking about the bottle with 4 1/2 inch applicator. They can get chocolate from anyone but this? Not.

Makeupaname
01-02-16, 01:53
I arrive at T3 just after midnight, and my flight to Cebu isn't until 5 AM.

Is there a place in T3 I can buy a local sim card around 1-2 AM?

Or in the Cebu airport between 6-7 AM.A quick follow up. The Smart and Globe SIM vendor booths in T3 were open at 2 AM.

Ikksman
01-02-16, 21:59
We all know how our Pinay SYTs love chocolate. I know that some of us carry up to 1 or 2 Kg half way around the world to share with our SYT's family and relatives. And we all know how quickly the chocolate melts into a gooey mess as soon as we arrive in PI!

No more! Swiss chocolate Barry Callebaut is selling heat-resistant luxury chocolate that stays totally firm up to 38 degrees see.

Ikksman

Sxxxx
01-03-16, 04:56
We all know how our Pinay SYTs love chocolate. I know that some of us carry up to 1 or 2 Kg half way around the world to share with our SYT's family and relatives. And we all know how quickly the chocolate melts into a gooey mess as soon as we arrive in PI!

No more! Swiss chocolate Barry Callebaut is selling heat-resistant luxury chocolate that stays totally firm up to 38 degrees see.

IkksmanQuality chocolate can be bought in local Phil Supermarkets, Hersheys etc. Good variety. No packing in suitcase and maybe crushing, no carrying kgs of the stuff, and no paying western world prices. Also if bringing with you, got to get them from airport to a fridge promptly, otherwise melting can be a problem. Buy in Phils lads.

Wicked Roger
01-03-16, 08:00
We all know how our Pinay SYTs love chocolate. I know that some of us carry up to 1 or 2 Kg half way around the world to share with our SYT's family and relatives. And we all know how quickly the chocolate melts into a gooey mess as soon as we arrive in PI!

No more! Swiss chocolate Barry Callebaut is selling heat-resistant luxury chocolate that stays totally firm up to 38 degrees see.

IkksmanMore than 2 kgs Ikks LOL.

And mine never melts as ever stays around long enough. Is either eaten there and then or put into a fridge (but eaten pretty soon after). Most I buy never last the week.

It does melt into a gooey mess if you put it somewhere else of course LOL.

Geneva Guy
01-03-16, 22:59
Most girls lack proper hygiene of their V. There are many exterior wash on the market but I haven't seen any douches on the shelves.....

Of course there wasn't any douche solution available but we bought some lube for safe insertion, being it will be her first time.

Then we went and bought some vinegar. I forget what the mixture ratio to water but easily Google search will provide it. The main thing I caution her was to use bottled water. No need to risk infections with city tap water. I imagine 3*+ hotels have clean tap water but why risk it.
I will tell you that the girls perform and enjoy sex better douching before hand. Make sure they understand this in NOT contraception.

Part of my items to bring on my next trip is disposable douche, which the bottles can be reused again and again.Have to disagree, I have been with many filipinas and have encountered NO smelly pussy. These girls know how to keep clean. Douching with anything is a bad idea. It increases the chance of bacterial vaginosis, even with vinegar, which will lead to a fishy smelly pussy that needs to be treated with antibiotics such as metronidazole. So, all those available douches are just bunk. Do your girls a favor, don't get them. All they need is to wash with soap and water gently. Some girls use toothpaste to wash their pussy (love the minty taste). But no douching. The vietnamese girls I have been with don't use any soap, just use warm water. And my experience there is that they smell good, not fruity or perfume like, but natural (and most have quite a crop of pussy hair too, LOL).

Here is a medical site which is reliable to read about it: http://www.webmd.com/women/guide/vaginal-douching-helpful-or-harmful.

GG.

Fast Eddie 48
01-03-16, 23:33
Quality chocolate can be bought in local Phil Supermarkets, Hersheys etc. Good variety. No packing in suitcase and maybe crushing, no carrying kgs of the stuff, and no paying western world prices. Also if bringing with you, got to get them from airport to a fridge promptly, otherwise melting can be a problem. Buy in Phils lads.To SXXX.

Hershey is not high Quality in US standard may be in PI you can buy good quality Swiss and other European chocolate in the super market in Manila but they are very expensive, I do bring them from the US in large bar they don't melt as easy.

Fast eddie 48.

Dg8787
01-04-16, 02:16
To SXXX.

Hershey is not high Quality in US standard may be in PI you can buy good quality Swiss and other European chocolate in the super market in Manila but they are very expensive, I do bring them from the US in large bar they don't melt as easy.

Fast eddie 48.Please, keep it quiet, the filipinas don't know Hershey isn't the highest quality. But it is decent and American.

Sxxxx
01-04-16, 02:30
To SXXX.

Hershey is not high Quality in US standard may be in PI you can buy good quality Swiss and other European chocolate in the super market in Manila but they are very expensive, I do bring them from the US in large bar they don't melt as easy.

Fast eddie 48.I never said high quality. Hershey Kisses are the most popular chocolate in Phils. You don't need other brands to impress, they don't know the difference and love "Kisses". Ideal for tossing on stages, if that's your thing. Good supplier JJ Supermarket, next to Margarita Station, Angeles. Other towns or cities, easily found.

BrainDrain
01-04-16, 07:33
Organise Action Travel to pick you up and ferry you directly to AC. Walk out of your hotel and enjoy yourself for three days of great fun.

A year ago I was an advocate of Action Travel, but times have changed. Over the last year they have forgotten me once, overcharged me another time, turned up the wrong terminal and turned up after I cancelled them (and they made me pay!

On my last and final attempt to use them they simply text me upon arrival when I was looking for the driver "sorry sir, no driver tonight". At all times I have booked by email. Had confirmations etc. I simply think that they just accept all bookings then just look at them on the day, the business seems to run more on luck than any planning.

So, where does that leave me. I've got a hybrid of travel plans from the last few times I have.

A) arrived at NAIA and just paid the rates for the official taxi service. I arrived safe and didn't have any hassles. (was hijacked once by an unofficial taxi last year) I justify paying this price by converting it back to the cost of getting to / from an Australian airport by taxi.

B) for transfer to AC when I was away from the airport, I just negotiated with the taxi driver and did it for the same rate as Action. I did have to ask two different drivers, the first guy wasn't interested.

C) have used hotel pickups. Most expensive but not my preferred method.

D) other rides around Manile metro are now all with Uber.

All the best, but please steer clear of Action and my earlier recommendations.

BD.

Blanquiceleste
01-04-16, 14:37
A year ago I was an advocate of Action Travel, but times have changed. Over the last year they have forgotten me once, overcharged me another time, turned up the wrong terminal and turned up after I cancelled them (and they made me pay!

On my last and final attempt to use them they simply text me upon arrival when I was looking for the driver "sorry sir, no driver tonight". At all times I have booked by email. Had confirmations etc. I simply think that they just accept all bookings then just look at them on the day, the business seems to run more on luck than any planning.

So, where does that leave me. I've got a hybrid of travel plans from the last few times I have.

A) arrived at NAIA and just paid the rates for the official taxi service. I arrived safe and didn't have any hassles. (was hijacked once by an unofficial taxi last year) I justify paying this price by converting it back to the cost of getting to / from an Australian airport by taxi.

B) for transfer to AC when I was away from the airport, I just negotiated with the taxi driver and did it for the same rate as Action. I did have to ask two different drivers, the first guy wasn't interested.

C) have used hotel pickups. Most expensive but not my preferred method.

D) other rides around Manile metro are now all with Uber.

All the best, but please steer clear of Action and my earlier recommendations.

BD.Just returned from the Philippines after a great trip and reports will follow by the coming weekend on the appropriate forums, but for transfers between Manila & AC I used a service provider recommended by GoodEnough. Clean, new car, pleasant driver, talks less and plays good music in the car. Knows all the routes when stuck in a bit of traffic. He takes PHP 3000 for a one way trip, which I believe is better than what hotels quote and on par with the Manila taxis which a not fit for a 70 mile ride to AC. His number is saved on my spare phone, let me pull that up and share for the greater good.

WestCoast1
01-05-16, 04:34
Overnight recently the exchange rate at street vendors dropped from the low 47's to the low-mid 46's.


Strange as the official rate today is 47.17 to the dollar.


Not just street vendors. I trade (as a hobby. It doesn't count as a living until I make more than my last bad job) and also saw the tick down vs the php. Bigger move than the euro, but nothing to lose sleep over. Yet.From 47 to 46. In the week after those pics it stabilized around 46.5 and 46.6 in Manila. Anyone else getting different?

GreenBud
01-05-16, 05:18
He takes PHP 3000 for a one way trip, which I believe is better than what hotels quoteThe Royal Amsterdam Hotel will charge you 2600 pesos for the trip from Manila airport to Angeles.

Front desk lady said you don't have to stay at the hotel to use that service, but you have to pre-pay. The 2600 is the cash price. They add 5% if you use credit card. Credit card price should be 2730, but I'm guessing (if you don't stay at the hotel) that you can have them just authorize the credit card payment, and then pay cash after you arrive, and then they should let the credit card authorization expire.

It's 2600 pesos for a sedan, and 2950 for a crossover (hotel car). But almost every time I've used the service, they sent the crossover vehicle to pick me up. They will contract out and send a sedan for pick up if their hotel car (the crossover) is not available.

MS Clive
01-05-16, 07:07
Here is a series of posts from my trip to Philippines.

This was my first time to PHL but I am an experienced traveler with previous trips to DR, Tijuana, Colombia, Thailand, and other minor destinations. Thanks to veterans on this board who gave me advice. For those who wish to read further – I split my time between Manila, Angeles City, and Subic Bay. During my trip I tried Filipino Cupid, dancer clubs in AC, cheap bar joints in AC, and various bars and strip clubs in Subic Bay. I did this trip in Nov 2015 so this report is overdue.

A few weeks before my vacation I decided to recruit talent for my casting couch at Filipino Cupid. I am of Indian descent so I experienced some bias as I think most girls are chasing the traditional white guy (or maybe a Korean guy). Anyway there is plenty of fish in the sea and I did not find it too hard to communicate with the girls that held my interest. I do not usually go after models but with girls who seem to GF material. So 26 to 37 is my ideal age range. But I sometimes go after 18 year olds as well.

I had communicated with a strong interest – let's call her Ms. S. She seemed very interested and I was communicating with her on Viber even from the airport on the way to Manila. She seemed eager and willing. She actually offered to pick me up in Manila airport and ride in a taxi with me to my hotel room in Makati. This sweetheart was an angel but a 6 or 7. Perhaps 33 years old but classy and spoke good English. She showed up at the airport with a bottle of water and a SIM card for my phone. We made our way to a taxi and reached Hotel Ceasar at around 11 pm. She commented that my choice of hotel on Burgos street was strange and I pretended I did not know what she meant.

Anyway once we were in the room we had a shower (separately) and had some conversation which led to foreplay and sex. BBBJ was lackluster and sex pretty good. The fact that I had not had sex for 3+ months prior had me biased but as it would turn out she was the best lay for the trip.

MS Clive
01-05-16, 07:08
Next morning we woke up and had breakfast at Hotel Ceasar and we strolled down Burgos in the day. Nothing to write about here but the area feels very safe. Any reports I heard about it being dirty or unsafe are exaggerated. I have seen much worse areas around the world.

Back to the room and one more round of boom boom – this one was more passionate with a mutual massage and DATY and some romance / GFE. I brought her to a few orgasms with my tongue technique but her oral was just a waste of time. But she was all around strong GF material.

We said our goodbyes with promises to meet again when I return to Manila. I checked out of the hotel (Hotel Ceasar staff recommended though room seemed small and I had a premium room for some $65 or $75 a night). I took a taxi to Ermita to catch the Southern Cross bus to Angeles City. The taxi driver was a cool guy and I ensured he did not veer from the optimal path thanks to Google Maps.

Now the Southern Cross shuttle is highly recommended. Point to point transport for an affordable rate (600 pisos from Manila to Angeles I think). Bus was 15 minutes late and staff efficient and excellent by PHL standards. Seems the bus is pressed into service for most of the day so the bus needs some repair and has difficulty climbing up even small hills. Bus driver kept stopping by the side of the highway to cool down the engine or something. Air conditioner works. I would pick this service again. Halfway to AC they stopped for lunch / break and I ate at some Chinese place. Really really bad food – I am not picky but this may have been the top 5 worst meals I had. Stinky, stale food and the staff looked at me with pity as I ordered my food. I should have gone to the adjoining Jollibee I guess.

Reached Angeles city around sunset and checked into the Central Park Tower. Pretty good hotel but may be on the pricier side. Girls loved the hotel. The rooftop pool is excellent but unfortunately it was out of operation during most of my stay there. Not cool – I paid for the hotel mainly due to the pool facilities.

I finished up some office work and headed out looking for a motorcycle rental place. The hope was to book a motorcycle tour to Mt. Pinatubo. I saw a bunch of trikes but somehow ended up walking up and down Fields Ave to soak in the madness of this place. A friend of mine had told me about AC being a sh. Hole but this was really bad. Everywhere I went I saw crowds, traffic, smoke, and beggars. I reached the motorcycle rental place (very good off-road motorcycles) but they informed me that Mt. Pinatubo was closed for tourists by the government. Huge setback as this was the main reason I was in Philippines and if I knew this I would have gone to Brazil instead. Anyway that is a complaint for another board – not for ISG.

Being the ever optimist I decided to check out the bars. The action in Atlantis and other places had not yet picked up. So I made my way down to Kokomo's and I took a curbside table to gaze at the street action. The food was incredible – I had some Indian curry. Now this was a fun thing to do – to watch all the depraved souls in all their debauchery. I saw a group of few ladyboys talking to mongers who really did not seem to know that they were picking up lady boys. I personally have nothing against lady boys and would even session with them but this was my first exposure to them. I have seen them in Thailand but never really witnessed them selling their wares. It was kind of hilarious to see them react when they realize that these girls were lady boys. I will say that lady boys in Thailand are far more attractive (feminine) than those in Philippines.

There were some cute chicks on the street but did not seem available. I am not sure if they were working girls or if they were looking for Koreans or were not interested in Indians. But anyway I was only window shopping. I prefer chemistry over mere appearances.

Then as the action picked up I hit the bars. All of them on the section of Walking Street closed to traffic. Now I had low expectations for these clubs in Angeles City but these clubs were really below my expectations. There were several things that turned me off which are all observations other folks have had on this site. I will save the details for the last post in this travelogue. But I was put off by the Korean dudes that aimlessly shower money on the girls to the point that the women have become desensitized and don't even pretend to be interested in men but only their money. They behaved like robots I mean. The girls are also pathetic dancers and I was just not feeling like wasting my time here. I checked out a dozen bars but none of them held my interest for a minute. I had higher expectations of Atlantis but turns out that bar is terrible too. The environment with circular seating around a stage is too sterile and as I looked around very few people were smiling. I thought that this may be due to this being a weekday but it was really a buzzkill. I am not picky at all and I have also spent money on a 65 year old hooker in Canada (I was 26 year old at that time) and was perhaps the lowest point in my life. LOL. Anyway even by my open minded standards I felt that my trip to Philippines was not going to be a pleasant one.

I headed back to my hotel and was considering going back to Manila to spend time with my Ms. S or shorten my stay in AC. I decided to relax and just go with the flow. I headed out to BJ bar Black Pearl with the reasoning "how bad can a BJ be? As it turns out – in PHL it can actually be quite bad but not on this night.

Black Pearl is down a side road with no infrastructure at all with just a pool table. Kind of a sh. Hole but as I said I am open minded and I was optimistic. There were two girls here and a super eager mamasan. I ordered a drink and chilled talking to a few nice guys who were hanging out there. Very nice conversation and helpful guys. As I talked to mamasan she called in a few girls –5 in the lineup. 3 of them were a 4 including a friendly fat chick, a Chinese looking who was a 7 with a tight body and big tits (fake? And solid 9 who seemed friendly as well. I decided to go for a 3-some with the hot chick and the friendly fat chick. Sorry fat chick – you are the designated ball licker for the night. The prices were low by any standard and the girls seemed eager to please. They were impressed by the room (I had the expensive suite).

Now this is my usual approach to mongering – I am very generous with girls if they offer really good service. But I never let them know all this up front. The test is somewhat geared to check if they like me genuinely or not. I mean I am buying their time but I like to find the middle ground where there is at least some mutual attraction. But on this occasion as we walked to my room I tried something different: I told them that I would give them 500 pisos each every time I came in addition to the 1 k per girl barfine. This clearly got the girls excited for the challenge.

Once in the room I went for the shower and hot chick was brushing her teeth in plain sight while the fat chick went back to the bedroom area. I got concerned about her stealing stuff but my valuables were in the safe so I guess I was somewhat covered. So to make sure she was not going through my bags I put on a towel and dashed into the bed room area with my shower still running – pretending I needed something from my bags. Turns out the fat chick had stripped down and was just using her phone. So back into the shower and I asked them to join. Hot chick joined me but she was concerned about getting her hair wet. In my mind I wanted a BBBJ in the shower but I let that go as I understand that she may not want to get her hair wet. Soon the girls completed their shower and joined me in the bed.

The hot chick was really hot and my top 10 ever. But she lacked in performance. Not bad but not great. On the other hand fat chick was amazing in bed and good at BBBJ too. She was very GFE with a good smile and nice teeth. She was eager to please (the 500 piso tip? I was taking long and the hot chick soon grew tired or simply was delegating affairs to the fat chick. Now I have never bareback with a sex worker but I went with the flow in PHL. The hot chick was fairly snug if not tight but she was not into it. She was killing my buzz so I asked her to go home and I decided to finish in GFE with the fat chick. Fat chick was a lot of fun and her pussy was a good fit for me. So I gave her a nice cream pie and the promised tip. Not a bad way to end my Day 2. No CIM but BBFS is just as great.

MS Clive
01-05-16, 07:09
Woke up in morning and headed to hotel pool to have breakfast. Pool was still closed so headed out to Kokomo's instead. Had an all-fruit breakfast. Amazing again. Mocha good too. Good way to start the day.

Sauntered down to the motorcycle place to talk to the manager who was a Filipino lady. She was fairly attractive (besides the point) but she was not interested in my business it seems. Spoke to the Austrian / German owner and he also was uncooperative. Sad – I was trying to rent a bike for 4 days but they did not provide any info such as which bike can be driven on a highway etc. I was looking for a dual sport. They even had one to rent but they seemed unwilling to talk to me. Can't understand why this would have been the case. I mean I have the money and they had the bike. But they would answer my question with indifference. They seemed more comfortable renting out scooters.

I took a trike to a neighboring mall – sorry can't remember the name. But it is quite an upscale place. All brand name stores. It is funny how Filipinos will clamor so much over brands. A friend of mine manages brands such as Calvin Klein, BCBG, Luis Vuitton, etc. In New York so I have good insight into how these brands are built and managed. I gladly shop at Walmart and Target and in general do not care much for brands but it is funny to see how the poorer you get the more you value conspicuous consumption in the form of brands. I had lunch at a local fast food place serving Filipino food called Goldilocks. Very inexpensive food and I had some fish with rice and some lentil soup. Absolutely delicious. While all the locals eat at McDonalds, Jollibee, Burger King, or the upscale Japanese places, here I was eating at Goldilocks which had to be the bottom of the barrel where the poorest locals ate. Highly recommended.

After buying essentials as a 2nd wallet and other things I needed I took a trike back to my hotel area and went over to Black Pearl in the early evening. The hot chick from the previous night was with a client and was very bored. I got a drink and hung around the area chatting up with the girls. Seems the guy was talking to her and boring her. As soon as she saw me her eyes lit up and she blew me a kiss when the guy was not watching. I was hoping to catch fat chick again or the Chinese looking hottie but they were nowhere to be found. But other girls came down to talk to me. Seems word gets around and the girls knew that I had treated the girls from the previous night well. Soon the hot chick stepped away from her client and came up to me and asked me straight if I wanted her. She said something to the effect that she would make me happy if I took her alone. I was non-committal as I was merely shopping. She said that she would be free later so if I can come later. She did not want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off her client. I said ok.

I temporarily took leave of the 2 or 3 women who were keeping me company. Yeah I love talking with the girls. I went over next door to get minutes added to my SIM card. I asked the girl in the store if she sold minutes for the smart network. She looked at me puzzled and said yes and we did the transaction. Then she asked me if I was looking for a girl. I said yes. She said she actually works at Black Pearl but was merely managing the store for a friend. She was quite OK looking but friendly and cheerful. Now I am a person who gets more attracted to waitresses, store clerks, bank cashiers, etc. Rather than strippers and hookers. It is the thrill of catching a normal girl in everyday settings. Something to do with the excitement of unwrapping your own present without having paid for it. In other words I like to simulate situations as close to a non-pay-for-play pick-up as is possible. So when this chick offered to come to my room I was pleasantly surprised. I don't think she works at Black Pearl but actually runs the store but was merely trying to make a quick buck. She got someone to mind the store and she went off with me. No mamasan etc. So off we went to my room. Yeah spontaneity is what gets me off.

In the room we showered together with no fireworks. Once clothes came off her body was pretty good for 30. She reluctantly gave me BBBJ but generally was uninterested in sex. I did not feel comfortable going BBFS with her – I mean why risk STDs when you are not even going to enjoy the session? I told her this was not working for me because she was not happy doing BBBJ. So I gave her the base negotiated amount (1. 5 k?) and kicked her out. I cum only once or twice a day so why waste it on a substandard session?

So I went for an incredible massage around my hotel. Spent a good 2. 5 hrs there recharging my batteries and getting my mind off sex.

After that I headed back to Black Pearl and hottie was not there. Seems the client barfined her. No problem as I was looking for variety anyway and her performance from the previous night was not stellar anyway. Fat chick nowhere to be found. No other hot chicks of interest but Chinese looking girl showed up. It always happens that if I do not get to bed a girl that is on my wish list I am unable to forget them and keep thinking about them even after a few months when I am back home. So after negotiating BBBJ and BBFS I immediately barfined her and took her to my room.

Turns out she is Filipino. Often these girls do not know who their father is so there may be some Chinese DNA in there and she simply may not know. Any case the girl's tits are fake. Once in the room she tells me that they are sore because she recently had a baby. WTF. I could see that they are fake and she probably recently had a surgery. She asks me not to touch them as they hurt. She has a decent personality but I don't like being lied to. So that is a bad way to start a session. I try to remain optimistic and we go on to BBBJ and she is terrible at this. Imagine that she works at a BJ bar but she is bad at sucking the. Unbelievable. So we go for BBFS and she says that she does not do BBFS because she does not want another baby. I felt cheated. Now for STD safety I have this simple rule that I do not violate even if I am super horny: if the girl refuses or is reluctant about BBFS or BBBJ I do not force the point. Maybe the girl knows something I don't. I told her that I was not pleased and that she was not delivering the goods as promised. She seemed hurt and disappointed (she would not get the tip I told her about). So I told her that she does not deserve to be paid but I will give her half of the base amount that we agreed upon. I think it came to 500 piso and I kicked her out.

This was a sordid evening – two bar fines and I did not cum once. Goodbye, Black Pearl.

So I decided to do one more round of the bars because it was going to be my final night in AC (thank god I was moving on). On several of the bars the door girls were super-hot. Funny how they smile at you and flirt with you but are still able to communicate that they are not available. It is all in subtle body language. Once you are in and you exit they look at you as if you are scum LOL: "I would never date a horny bastard like you" is what they seem to say. Little do they know that we can get as many girls like them if we wanted to. But not tonight.

I spotted a few hot girls in a club but Atlantis continued to disappoint. I am also a sucker for butter faces – ugly faces on hot bodies. I spotted one really hot bodied ugly chick. But somehow I did not bar fine her as she seemed unhappy to be there. Maybe me barfining her would have altered her enthusiasm but I let it go. I walked around Fields Ave, had some dinner somewhere I can't recall and called it a night.

MS Clive
01-05-16, 07:10
Woke up in morning checked out to get the early morning 8:45 am Southern Cross shuttle to Subic Bay from Orchid Inn. Nice staff at Orchid Inn put together a fruit plate for me in a hurry. Great staff and good service. Would recommend.

Road to Subic bay is nice and scenic. Much better than Manila city for sure.

Once I reached Subic Bay bus dropped me off at Wild Orchid. It was a long walk from there to my hotel Treasure Island with my luggage. Damn I should have taken a trike. Due to some miscommunication I declined an offer for a trike.

I reached there just after noon. Very nice area and good location of hotel next to beach. I am sucker for a good beach. I booked the most expensive room I could find because based on the reviews this hotel is not that good. My room itself was excellent with mirror on the ceiling but the bathroom was terrible. The toilet pot is in so cramped a corner that I could not sit down on it without my knees hitting something – think of cramped airplane seats. Disgusting. I am not a big guy but I wonder how heavier customers would fit into these cramped toilets. Besides that – internet etc. Were very good. No problem there. Food excellent, pool excellent, service excellent. Prices decent too. Food pretty good. Good burger and great fruit.

There is a bar called Kokomo's in the middle of the water near the beach where they take you by a boat. You can meet a bunch of friendly but unattractive girls there. The action starts at 5 pm and ends around 10 pm. I did not know this and I assumed the action starts at 9 pm as it starts in rest of the world. So I went for a swim in the ocean in the afternoon and then some work for the office. The water is warm but is green! Later learnt that the water is dirty from a nearby sewage and is not good for swimming in. Shit. Anyway water was not that bad but just not very attractive from a beach perspective.

So I swam in the hotel pool which was nice and ordered a burger which was quite nice and fresh. I had heard that beef in Philippines is substandard but this was not bad. Then I headed off to my room to work on some office stuff and emerged around 9 pm to head out to Kokomo's but to my disappointment they were winding down. Damn – wasted the evening. I still made the most of it by hanging out with the available girls. There is a very nice older chick called Joselyn with a nice body but rotting teeth. She is friendly and willing but I can't bear the thought of her teeth touching my member. So I had to take a pass. So I went with another girl from there who I remember nothing about except that she was not worth writing at all. But she was maybe 19 and we did BBFS. She slid out of the room soon after.

Woke up and got a good breakfast. Made friends with a few chill American guys from the Mideast and a German guy and learnt that there are a bunch of clubs in the area on the highway where the action does actually start at 9 pm.

Went out for a run on the beach and then into the city – clocking maybe 3 or 4 miles. I run practically barefoot so the beach run was excellent but I hurt my foot on a rock or something and was dehydrated due to the 83 degree F weather. So I stopped in at a foot massage. As luck would have it their AC was not working so they helped me order some BBQ Chicken and soda from next door. The staff was friendly so I ordered food and drinks for everyone – total damage $7 maybe for 5 people. The two attendants who massaged my feet and gave me a pedicure were lady boys. One of them was super hot and we spent the hour or so chatting. I learnt a lot of the lady boy lifestyle and their sex change treatments, how guys treat them, their love lives, etc. Never met lady boys before so this was quite informative.

After they got off work they offered to take me to meet their family and friends. I always like to sit down with the locals and get to learn about their lives first hand. So I agreed. So off we went to their village in Olongapo area in 2 trikes. I paid for these. I think they would have taken the jeepney or walked if it they did not have a guest. So I paid which was like $2 for both trikes.

Once we got to their village there was a birthday celebration or something. I learnt of this once we got there so I volunteered to buy some drinks and chips from their local store and off we went. I think the locals thought I was their boyfriend or something and both were clearly showing me off. No worries.

The people were very nice. Met the sister, mom and extended family of the older lady boy. There is an entire culture around lady boys where they exist for the sexual gratification of males in society. Lady boys seem to be desired for their oral skills and lady boys in turn keep looking for a man who will treat them like a lady and accept them openly in public and not only in secret. This is an illusion because you will rarely see Filipino men in public with lady boys. My friends told me that guys will date them in private but will never be seen with them in public. Kinda sad but makes me wonder why they choose this lifestyle. Is it really innate sexual orientation or is it a choice a teenager makes at a certain point in their life?

From there I went off to rent a motorcycle and I shall spare you the details of it all but finding one was not easy at all. Finally found a very good electronic start off-road bike. Very nice indeed.

Also signed up for scuba diving the next morning. Later in the day I learnt of the shit river that flows into the bay so I ended up canceling the scuba excursion the following day.

Once it was around 5 pm I headed over to my hotel on the motorcycle and Kokomo's and had a great time. There were around 18 girls among 5 guys. I bought a few drinks for a few girls and soon enough I was surrounded by 10+ women. Soon one girl was massaging my back and one girl was massaging each of my feet. An almost free 6-handed massage. When I told them that I had injured my foot they took turns trying to heal it. In those 3 hours I think 6 girls must have worked on it. It not only felt better but these girls won my heart. During these hours one of the waitresses was crying and I asked her what the problem was. She handed me a pregnancy test strip. I did not touch it (could have been [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)-ridden) but it was positive. She told me that it was her 5th baby and the German father boyfriend had just disappeared that evening after seeing the test result. She did not have money to take care of the baby etc.

Among the girls there was a girl I think called Helen with a tight body but ugly face and uglier dental implants. But she was super friendly and super informative. She gave me the scoop and gossip on all the other girls and also who is good in bed etc. Not that I trust her but the gossip was fun. She also introduced me to her cousin who was a cherry girl I. E. A virgin. All the girls started talking to this cousin and she warmed up to me. They tried to convince me to take her virginity. Soon a threesome with her was offered. In my own mind this would have been on my bucket list but not on that day and time. It did not feel attractive to me. I have never been with a virgin before but I don't think it would be an enjoyable experience. Anyway I passed up on it and decided to go with Helen instead – solo.

Helen and I went down to check out the bars in town as Kokomo's was closing after 9 pm or so. Turns out Helen was a stripper at these bars so she knows a lot of the local girls, waitresses, etc. So her stories of individual girls, white loser guys, etc. Continued into the night. She is generally liked by all so I got a lot of attention wherever we went. At one bar she introduced me to a waitress who she said gives the best blowjob in Olongapo. Now this girl was a 4, fat and maybe 36 yrs old. But she was super friendly and gave me a great chair massage. Yes that was the 4th massage in the previous 6 hours of pretty much non-stop massage. She also offered to blow me in the back room for free saying because she liked me but I think we both knew I would tip her. She guaranteed multiple orgasms but out of respect for Helen and to preserve my man-juice I politely declined but gave her nice deep French kiss. To my actions a group of strippers gathered around us and cheered. Soon more girls joined then and there. They mauled me and took my shirt off. One girl started licking my nipples and another started taking my pants off – in public. I forcefully stopped them from [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) me further. But one girl started doing a lap dance and the rest is a blurry memory. Helen did not save me but this waitress girl was very aggressive in the sex department and all I recall was that it hurt a bit. My nipples were sore but all this was mildly exciting. The girls insisted on me marrying her and saying that she will keep me happy. All fun and games for them. I must have spent on drinks for Helen, the waitress, and myself. I think total $11 or so. On the other hand I completely regret not taking her up on the offer for the blow job. I am a sucker for blow jobs from talented older women. None of the women in the city were better than a 5 or 6. Even the girls in Angeles City were better.

We went to other bars including Alaska Bar. I spotted a few good girls here and made a mental note of coming back here again. I made an impression on the waitress Maria there who was a smiling fat chick who had been gorgeous in better years. She was all available and we exchanged numbers. Helen is cool and she encouraged all this. Noted two dark skinned hotties in the bar. And a Korean looking girl too. Save them for later.

After hitting 5 or 6 more bars we headed off to the hotel room. Helen had a tight body but a bit loose pussy. She had 3 orgasms and said that she was really very fond of me. She was not so good a lay but she tried to genuinely please. In any case there was a strong connection and she was worth it. She snuck out of the room at 6 am or so and asked me if it was alright. I do not usually have sex twice with the same girl so bid her farewell. Not a bad time with her overall.

MS Clive
01-05-16, 07:10
Rode on my motorcycle to other cities on the island on the west coast. Decent beaches with blue waters. Warm waters too but I did not have my swimming stuff. Will spare you the details but with my foot out of commission the motorcycle was my way of getting weight off my foot for most of the day.

On the way the police stopped me and asked for my drivers license and I was not carrying it. They still let me go – no bribe offered or asked for. I was wearing a good protection suit, heavy riding boots, and had a GoPro installed on the motorcycle so they seemed to be more curious of all this gear more than anything else. They knew that anyone this prepared for riding has got to be having a drivers license so I guess that's why they let me go.

In the evening I headed towards Alaska Bar and soon picked up 2 of the 3 girls I had spotted because the two seemed to be friends. One dark skinned girl called Laura (pretty sure her father is black and she does not know / agree) and another with Sri Lankan features (pretty sure her father is. And she does not know / agree). I may be fantasizing all these mixed genes but yes I do love dark skinned girls a lot. Laura was a 5 but the Sri Lankan was a 6. We three had excellent chemistry as I had established the night before. So off we went on a threesome to my hotel. Laura was a good lay and we spent a good portion of the night kissing and necking while the Sri Lankan watched us. Sri Lankan was better at oral and had an awesome spinner body (similar to porn star Janice Griffith but with smaller tits) and Laura was strong and hard bodied. Laura was more passionate of the two. BBBJ and BBFS was offered by both and the session must have lasted for 90 minutes or so. I came in Laura's mouth and she proceeded to spit it out. She came back and told me this was the first time she had ever done this. Her pussy was a good fit – not tight but felt snug and cozy in there. I was torn between doing a creampie vs. CIM but I went with the latter because I already had a few creampies.

After the session the Sri Lankan took off saying she needs to take care of her baby or something (bullshit because I know that she lives in a common room shared by all girls behind Alaska bar provided by her employer as I learnt from the waitress). Laura stayed on but she also wanted to go. She was good enough that I would try a second time in the morning with her. But she ran off though she had agreed to stay with me for 2 days in our pre-negotiated agreement. She said I could come and pick her up at night but the idea is to have a girl to explore the city and malls and beaches. Not just to poke at night. Anyway she was a runner and there is nothing I could do about it I guess. Except not see her that night of course.

Red Kilt
01-05-16, 11:56
The Royal Amsterdam Hotel will charge you 2600 pesos for the trip from Manila airport to Angeles.

Front desk lady said you don't have to stay at the hotel to use that service, but you have to pre-pay. The 2600 is the cash price. They add 5% if you use credit card. Credit card price should be 2730, but I'm guessing (if you don't stay at the hotel) that you can have them just authorize the credit card payment, and then pay cash after you arrive, and then they should let the credit card authorization expire.As I have pointed out many times on ISG already, it is ILLEGAL in the Philippines to levy a credit card surcharge. Many crooks try this on with foreigners because it is so common to have CC surcharges elsewhere in the world and so they fool foreigners who think it's the same in the Philippines.

Note the following:

Under Article 81, or the "Price Tag Requirement," of Republic Act 7394, otherwise known as "Consumer Act of the Philippines," goods and services must have only an appropriate price tag or label. It must not be sold at a higher price that what is stated and without discrimination to all buyers. This translates further to a credit card surcharge over and beyond the "regular" price.

The Department of Trade and Industry (DTI) asks any consumer who pays or is asked to pay a surcharge should report the matter to DTI's hotline number 7513330 or visit www.dti.gov.ph.

Violators can be fined 300,000 php and have their business permit and license revoked.

I had 2 incidents in the past year where a restaurant tried this on. One in Boracay and one in Alonah Beach, Bohol. Each time I challenged the owner by quoting RS 7394. In Boracay the owner immediately withdrew the 5% surcharge on request; in Bohol the waitress told me the owner refused to back down so I paid up and when I had the official receipt with the restaurant charges and of course the credit card receipt showing the mark-up I asked to see him as I left to tell him that I would calling his bluff and going in to DTI in Manila to file an official report with proof of his surcharge. He freaked out and told me it was a mistake and he thought I was asking for a discount because of 8 people dining blah blah and that he would refund me on the spot the surcharge in cash. I accepted his refund. I still told DTI by email that he was trying it on with gullible customers but I didn't use the "evidence" as he had refunded my surcharge.

GreenBud
01-05-16, 19:47
As I have pointed out many times on ISG already, it is ILLEGAL in the Philippines to levy a credit card surcharge.Thanks! Good to know.

But, as I previously wrote, I'm a passive geek...

The hotel's restaurant will charge you 5% extra from the menu prices if you want to use a credit card. Since I stay there a lot, not sure if I want to stand up for my rights :-(

The hotel's internet site states that you get a discount if you pay in cash for the rooms. I guess this is legal.

For the transportation, their internet site states that it's cash only. But on check out, if you want to use your credit card, the hotel will charge you 5% extra.

GoodEnough
01-05-16, 22:20
I have only had 2 or 3 places try to impose the credit card surcharge on purchases, and I've simply reminded them that what they're doing is not legal. In all cases the surcharge claim was immediately withdrawn. RK is right, and it is a law that is enforced.

GE.


Thanks! Good to know.

But, as I previously wrote, I'm a passive geek...

The hotel's restaurant will charge you 5% extra from the menu prices if you want to use a credit card. Since I stay there a lot, not sure if I want to stand up for my rights :-(

The hotel's internet site states that you get a discount if you pay in cash for the rooms. I guess this is legal.

For the transportation, their internet site states that it's cash only. But on check out, if you want to use your credit card, the hotel will charge you 5% extra.

Red Kilt
01-06-16, 02:26
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But, as I previously wrote, I'm a passive geek...

The hotel's restaurant will charge you 5% extra from the menu prices if you want to use a credit card. Since I stay there a lot, not sure if I want to stand up for my rights :-(

The hotel's internet site states that you get a discount if you pay in cash for the rooms. I guess this is legal.

For the transportation, their internet site states that it's cash only. But on check out, if you want to use your credit card, the hotel will charge you 5% extra.They are treating you badly and with scorn, and laughing at you at the same time.

If you don't wish to "stand up for your rights" because you stay there a lot, then you're just plain dumb to be handing over surcharges that are illegal and would almost certainly be withdrawn if you complained.

At the very least, you should change hotels.

BrainDrain
01-06-16, 03:07
But she ran off though she had agreed to stay with me for 2 days in our pre-negotiated agreement. She said I could come and pick her up at night but the idea is to have a girl to explore the city and malls and beaches. Not just to poke at night. Anyway she was a runner and there is nothing I could do about it I guess. Except not see her that night of course.Thanks for the detailed field report and observations.

For me, the bar girls like to spend their day sleeping or back at their share accommodation. They are used to sleeping all day and dancing all night. I've had more success with freelancers and GFE as they are happy to stay around for the day.

Even better still for me, are girls with real jobs, they have sex, go to work and come home for dinner and more sex, then sleep. This leaves me the day to explore and I don't have to stay out late crawling through the bars.

It's more fun in the philippines.

BD.

GreenBud
01-06-16, 03:37
then you're just plain dumb to be handing over surcharges that are illegalI never pay the surcharges. I just pay the bill with cash.

I'm not saying that I'm not dumb, but I probably don't want to make a fuss with that nice waitress (in order to get some credit card points) for a few restaurant charges. And I probably don't want to argue to pay the transport charges with my credit card since their website did say that it was cash only.

GoodEnough
01-06-16, 04:49
They are treating you badly and with scorn, and laughing at you at the same time.

If you don't wish to "stand up for your rights" because you stay there a lot, then you're just plain dumb to be handing over surcharges that are illegal and would almost certainly be withdrawn if you complained.

At the very least, you should change hotels.This is a bit of a tangential thought, but I read an article a week or two ago that stressed how quickly the developed world--led in this case by Sweden--is moving toward a truly cashless society. The article contended that, within a decade or so, cash in such societies would be considered obsolete and that all transactions would be undertaken using some form of plastic. This place, which still relies on cash for probably 99% of its economy, will, as is typical, lag 50 or so years behind.

This notion was reinforced for me on Tuesday when I had to go to BOI for my Annual Report, and watched the BOI clerks, surrounded by mountains of paper, struggling to keep up with the flow of eats duly traipsing in to waste 2-3 hours to accomplish something that, in any more advanced country, would take maybe 10 minutes. Or which could be done in 30 seconds on line. It's further reinforced every month when I have to wait in line to pay my electricity bill in cash.

For some countries there's simply no hope at all. This is one of those countries.

GE.

Neworlean
01-06-16, 10:18
https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-heart-philippines-hiv-epidemic-172326288.html

MS Clive
01-06-16, 21:54
https://www.yahoo.com/news/city-heart-philippines-hiv-epidemic-172326288.htmlYou are misquoting the article. The article says that Cebu actually has one of the lowest HIV rates in the world but is rising due to drug use. Here is the excerpt from the article:

Since the Philippines's first reported case of HIV in 1984, the country has remained "low-incidence," meaning less than 1 percent of the population is infected with HIV.

So this is all good news for mongers as long as you stay away from drug users.

BrainDrain
01-07-16, 02:00
This is a bit of a tangential thought, but I read an article a week or two ago that stressed how quickly the developed world--led in this case by Sweden--is moving toward a truly cashless society. The article contended that, within a decade or so, cash in such societies would be considered obsolete and that all transactions would be undertaken using some form of plastic. This place, which still relies on cash for probably 99% of its economy, will, as is typical, lag 50 or so years behind.
There is a sad concept that technology will take away those processing jobs, therefore that is actively discouraged. Western thinking would think that to free up people from those tasks is a good thing.

Over time as more people see how western companies operate, they will place more demands on the bureaucrats to work a efficiently as many of the BPOs operating western businesses.

BD.

Engine Driver
01-07-16, 02:11
This is a bit of a tangential thought, but I read an article a week or two ago that stressed how quickly the developed world--led in this case by Sweden--is moving toward a truly cashless society. The article contended that, within a decade or so, cash in such societies would be considered obsolete and that all transactions would be undertaken using some form of plastic. This place, which still relies on cash for probably 99% of its economy, will, as is typical, lag 50 or so years behind.

This notion was reinforced for me on Tuesday when I had to go to BOI for my Annual Report, and watched the BOI clerks, surrounded by mountains of paper, struggling to keep up with the flow of eats duly traipsing in to waste 2-3 hours to accomplish something that, in any more advanced country, would take maybe 10 minutes. Or which could be done in 30 seconds on line. It's further reinforced every month when I have to wait in line to pay my electricity bill in cash.

For some countries there's simply no hope at all. This is one of those countries.

GE.GE, you seem to getting more and more upset with the country which has been your home for so long. Is it time to head back to the US for your sanity's sake?

FreebieFan
01-07-16, 02:46
This is a bit of a tangential thought, but I read an article a week or two ago that stressed how quickly the developed world--led in this case by Sweden--is moving toward a truly cashless society. The article contended that, within a decade or so, cash in such societies would be considered obsolete and that all transactions would be undertaken using some form of plastic. This place, which still relies on cash for probably 99% of its economy, will, as is typical, lag 50 or so years behind.

This notion was reinforced for me on Tuesday when I had to go to BOI for my Annual Report, and watched the BOI clerks, surrounded by mountains of paper, struggling to keep up with the flow of eats duly traipsing in to waste 2-3 hours to accomplish something that, in any more advanced country, would take maybe 10 minutes. Or which could be done in 30 seconds on line. It's further reinforced every month when I have to wait in line to pay my electricity bill in cash.

For some countries there's simply no hope at all. This is one of those countries.

GE.Whilst Sweden is leading the way, per the report, cashless in Japan is huge, same as UK and France after recent trips there. Where cashless goes, so goes paperless, and surely one day, Philippines and Indonesia will be still dealing in paper and notes but they will both be better than India where they seem stuck in the 19th century in terms of antiquated practices and processes.

If someone can get Peter Wallace to write about this, it might just nudge a few people in the right direction. Peter isn't a monger but a respected non Filipino who writes about the rights and the very clear wrongs in Inquirer, as well as being a decent bloke.

Dg8787
01-07-16, 03:03
I think a majority of the Filipino population is cashless. That is the problem, they don't have any money!

Until that is solved with more employment and better wages the form of currency is really not a concern for the RP.

Amanut
01-07-16, 03:21
I just got a kick ass deal flying from western Canada to Manila return on Air China for $899.00 Canadian. The only kicker is that there is a four hour layover in Vancouver and Taiwan. I have always flown Philippine Airlines because it has a direct flight from Vancouver however their prices are currently about $1,550. For the savings I will take the scenic route this time. Last year I went to Vietnam and Cambodia for a non mongering trip with family but had a great time so I want to go back on my own this time.

I expect I will spend most of my time in Cebu before heading to Saigon. Does anyone have suggestions about reputable discount airlines that fly to Saigon out of Cebu or will I likely have to fly out of Manila? I know from previous experience that booking flights throughout Asia is cheaper when you are there. I am planning on Saigon first, only because I have been chatting with a lady on DIA in Saigon and if we get alone I may ask her to tag along with me to Cambodia.

The second question relates to my visitors visa to enter Vietnam. As a Canadian I am required to have one. As I don't have exact travel dates I don't think I can apply for a visa until I know the exact date I will arrive in Vietnam. Does anyone have suggestions about making the application for the visa from the Philippines once I know the dates?

Thanks for any help.

Nut.

Goferring
01-07-16, 04:02
Does anyone have suggestions about reputable discount airlines that fly to Saigon out of Cebu or will I likely have to fly out of Manila? I know from previous experience that booking flights throughout Asia is cheaper when you are there.

Nut.Check out Cebu Pacific. Very cheap fares if you can book ahead and tickets can be purchased online regardless of if you are in the Phils or elsewhere. If you are flexible on what date you fly be sure to compare various dates as their fares vary widely depending on which day it is. Inter-Asia flights in the 10's of dollars are not uncommon.

If you have baggage etc Phil Air's discount tickets can actually be cheaper all-in than the Discount Airlines. Not sure if the go to VND but worth a look to compare.

GreenBud
01-07-16, 05:24
Does anyone have suggestions about reputable discount airlines that fly to Saigon out of Cebu or will I likely have to fly out of Manila?There's no direct flights from Cebu to Saigon.


As I don't have exact travel dates I don't think I can apply for a visa until I know the exact date I will arrive in Vietnam. Does anyone have suggestions about making the application for the visa from the Philippines once I know the dates?Get a letter to get a visa on arrival. You can do in over the internet. Google "Vietnam visa on arrival".

- Right now, you can get flights (even for the same day) on Philippine Airlines for round trip flights between Bangkok and Manila for $261 (Expedia price which includes taxes and luggage). Good prices. Flight yesterday was less than half full.

Ebauche
01-07-16, 06:07
Not passing judgment or advocating any particular POV, but this is a rather sobering article about the PI, particularly Cebu, that could impact our mongering decisions there. Everyone makes their own choices, but best to make informed choices.

http://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2016/01/cebu-city-philippines-hiv-drugs/422700/

WestCoast1
01-07-16, 06:39
A few thoughts about the holidays. In one province at Christmas time, the businesses began closing sporadically, starting about 5 days prior to Christmas. By Christmas day the only businesses open were fast food joints and one farmacy. Most businesses stayed closed for several days after Christmas. It gave the appearance of a mostly city-wide week-long holiday. There were a few jeeps and trykes running even on Christmas day. There was never a concern for food.

In another nearby province at Christmas, every business stayed open thru Christmas eve till about 6 pm, and only the fast food joints were open till 9-10 pm. At that point, all businesses were closed for the night. I had asked during the daytime on the 23rd at the front desk if my hotel's resto would be open Christmas eve or Christmas day. "We close 8 pm Christmas eve sir. Re-open for breakfast December 26. Closed all Christmas day". Got it. Which restos in the area are open Christmas eve and Christmas day? "Many sir". Can you be specific and tell me of one? "Jolli and McDonalds sir". The manager walked over and pointed out the front door, to a pinoy resto across the street: "They are open sir every day. Never close on holiday". Check, got it, thanks!

Wouldn't you know it, all was fine until Christmas morning. I went for my morning walk about 7:30 am and noticed *nothing* was open. The Jolli / Mcdo, both a block from the hotel, were closed. The resto across from the hotel was closed. Not a jeep or tryke moving. Just one vehicle drove by on my 45-minute walk. Both convenience stores I passed were closed. Upon re-entering the hotel I asked at the front desk where I could get some breakfast. The clerk looked at me like I was a martian. "I don't know sir. Its holiday". Serious? I'm a hotel guest, you can't tell me were I can get something to eat? Really, its your job to know what restos in the area are open / closed. "Um. Not sure sir. Wait let me get manager". He was heading to the back room to fetch the manager when she walked out. Same manager I spoke to previously. They spoke for a minute and she said there were probably no restos open today. But, ma'am, you said 2 days ago the resto across the street would be open, even on holiday. "No. I said that?" Yes, ma'am. You pointed right to that place. "Oh. Yes. I did. They aren't open? Sorry po". Won't the many other guests here at the hotel want to eat today? "Yes". Got it. Sad, I went to my room to devour my last remaining apple. I considered saving the core to eat later in the day.

An hour later the cleaning boy was knocking on doors up / down the hall, telling guests that the resto across the street was now open. I high-tailed it over there and got the last open table (guests from 3 nearby hotels were pouring in -- they too were unhappy about not being able to obtain food). I ordered up a breakfast, and also a lunch for takeout. I worked online for a while (the internet speed was surprisingly fast all day) and in the afternoon went out for another walk about 3 pm. McDonalds and Jollibee were both opening up for biz. Odd, I thought, why not just take the whole day off? Jeeps were starting to pass by. By 5 pm almost most all the businesses were open and all appeared normal. By the 26th all businesses were open and you would not know that a holiday had just occurred.

Lesson learned even for the seasoned traveler: Buy foods to keep in the room over the holidays.

Mogwai
01-07-16, 10:13
The second question relates to my visitors visa to enter Vietnam. As a Canadian I am required to have one. As I don't have exact travel dates I don't think I can apply for a visa until I know the exact date I will arrive in Vietnam. Does anyone have suggestions about making the application for the visa from the Philippines once I know the dates?I think you can apply for a visa that has a validity of 3 months. Then you don't need to know the exact travel dates. You can ask the Vietnam embassy in Canada.

http://visa.mofa.gov.vn/NewsDetail.aspx?id=29#sec3.

Mogwai
01-07-16, 10:43
I worked online for a while (the internet speed was surprisingly fast all day) and in the afternoon went out for another walk about 3 pm. McDonalds and Jollibee were both opening up for biz. Odd, I thought, why not just take the whole day off?I guess on Christmas Day everybody goes to church in the morning. But in the afternoon it's business as usual again.

Pantot
01-07-16, 13:02
A few thoughts about the holidays. In one province at Christmas time, the businesses began closing sporadically, starting about 5 days prior to Christmas. By Christmas day the only businesses open were fast food joints and one farmacy. Most businesses stayed closed for several days after Christmas. It gave the appearance of a mostly city-wide week-long holiday. There were a few jeeps and trykes running even on Christmas day. There was never a concern for food.

Lesson learned even for the seasoned traveler: Buy foods to keep in the room over the holidays.You know that's very interesting Westie. What province were you in? Whats interesting is that I just got back from the holidays in Phils provinces and was struck by how many businesses including eatieries were open with normal hours.

To be specific I spent the days leading up to Christmas and Christmas eve in Butuan then traveled to AC Christmas day then spent the days leading to New Years and New years eve in Calbayog. Was shocked how everything was business as usual. In Calbayog the feeling was who can afford to be closed? Its a pretty primitive place. And there are few if any proper restaurants and granted I ate mostly the way locals eat with less than 100 peso mini cafeterias. Butuan is much more of a city, small and on par with a Puerto Princessa. I avoid fast food as much as I can and we found most places open although the #2 Trip Advisor Butuan restaurant was closed late Christmas eve while the #1 was open for lunch at least.

I have concluded Christmas day is the best day of the year to quickly get in and get the hell out of the cesspool that is Metro Manila going to AC. The Victory Liner just breezed through Manila to the Edsa at 9 am like it was 4 am. The EDSA was no traffic all the way to NLEX -- it almost made me imagine I was in a functioning country. New Years Day was a pretty good travel day as well.

On Christmas day and New Years Day, AC was business as usual. All the Bars were open and no one seemed to close early. The less overall bargirl raw numbers were offset by a much lower number of mongers as well so selection was just fine. My experience this year was my first full holidays in the Phils and along with the milder weather in Dec-Jan it makes it a great time of year to visit, if you have no family considerations at home, which this year I did not.

Amanut
01-08-16, 03:57
I think you can apply for a visa that has a validity of 3 months. Then you don't need to know the exact travel dates. You can ask the Vietnam embassy in Canada.

http://visa.mofa.gov.vn/NewsDetail.aspx?id=29#sec3.Thanks I did a follow up to an online site.

http://www.vietnam-immigration.net/contact.html

Thanks. Hope this helps others from countries that require entry visas. I can apply for an open thirty day multiple entry visa. This allows me to enter, leave, to Cambodia, then come back and fly out from HCM back to Phils.

Excellent - Flight to Manila is booked and on my way early Feb. DIA contacts lined up including a favorite who I meet every time I am there. Locked and loaded.

Hopefully WC or WR will give me some tips in the future for posting pics here - in praise of older Filipinas.

Mbsl65
01-08-16, 03:58
A few thoughts about the holidays. In one province at Christmas time, the businesses began closing sporadically, starting about 5 days prior to Christmas. By Christmas day the only businesses open were fast food joints and one farmacy. Most businesses stayed closed for several days after Christmas. It gave the appearance of a mostly city-wide week-long holiday. There were a few jeeps and trykes running even on Christmas day. There was never a concern for food.My decision is staying away from Philippines during the month of December. I have no interest to listen what kind of Christmas wishes they do have. So, I spent most of my time in Thailand and it was a great decision.

Chocha Monger
01-08-16, 21:43
Butuan City– A Chinese national and an American citizen were offloaded from a Manila-bound Cebu Pacific (CEB) flight from this city after they figured in a tussle while the plane was preparing to depart from Butuan Airport Monday night.

Chinese Fan Wah John Kung, 35, and American Robert William Dismus, 65, were already onboard CEB flight 5 J788 and standing on the aisle while waiting for their turn to take their seats when they figured in a shoving incident.

It was reported that burly Dismus inadvertently shoved Fan from behind that sparked the commotion.

Airline personnel immediately moved in to peel them off each other and pacify them.

Dismus and Fan were taken off the CEB flight and brought to the Aviation Security Group (Avsegroup) office at the airport.

Butuan Airport Avsegroup head Insp. Alex Avenido said the two were later released without filing any charges against them but were not allowed to board the CEB 5 J788 flight.

Member #4387
01-10-16, 14:21
I don't know about you, my fellow mongerers, but lately I start to get a bad feeling when I see happy FB pics from girls I recently fucked, her husband / boyfriend and children. They play in waterparks, go to beach, play tennis whatever?? Its kind of strange how some girls operate here. The unknowing BF is having a blast with his lovely GF and extras of which he doesn't have the clue what realy happens when hes not present.

Its a dirty business but I draw the line as I don't fuck my close friends GF's. Others than that I am free to do whatever I want. But sometimes I feel bad about it later. Normaly I have no clu the girls have BF's and in cases I do know the guy is for sure not my bestfriend. The girl puts her willingly out there to be fucked so then a man got to to do what a man got to do.

Mr Enternational
01-10-16, 18:41
But sometimes I feel bad about it later. Normaly I have no clu the girls have BF's and in cases I do know the guy is for sure not my bestfriend. The girl puts her willingly out there to be fucked so then a man got to to do what a man got to do.I felt the same way once. When I first went to the Navy and fucked a Mexican chick. She worked at the Navy Exchange and I finally pestered her enough that she took me home with her. Later on while she was asleep, I went through her things and realized she was married and her husband was away on a ship and her kids were away with the family in Tijuana. I called my dad from her house and told him that I didn't know the girl was married. My dad said welcome to the real world son. Countless married and paired-up chicks later it is just second-nature.

Member #4387
01-11-16, 04:30
I felt the same way once. When I first went to the Navy and fucked a Mexican chick. She worked at the Navy Exchange and I finally pestered her enough that she took me home with her. Later on while she was asleep, I went through her things and realized she was married and her husband was away on a ship and her kids were away with the family in Tijuana. I called my dad from her house and told him that I didn't know the girl was married. My dad said welcome to the real world son. Countless married and paired-up chicks later it is just second-nature.I admit I do the same as girls, if we drink, tend to sleep before me. Then, stupid as some still are, they don't have password their phones and I read through msgs. I am not here for relationship purposes but it is damn funny in the morning questioning them about things I know (but pretend I don't know, hehe), just to see if theyre honest or not. Some girls actually pretty honest and tell upfront truth from what I discover reading msgs. Girls beeing honest I donate more than girls beeing dishonest (just for the good cause).

But lying in phils seems latent or in their blood. I guess that pictures the whole country in a sense as everyone (u have certain diamonds in the rough like the mother of my baby) would do almost everything to get better life here. I guess that's the bad part beeing stucked in a very 3 world country (and I don't see any changes coming for the next decade or sth).

Blanquiceleste
01-13-16, 01:19
It's true. The Philippines is doing a few things right. Like this machine I came across at NAIA.

Now all of us who travel frequently know the horrors of receiving change in coins. Coins are heavy, make annoying jingling noises when carried in pockets, have zero value as far as exchange goes, pose problems while going thru metal detectors when carried on person and are generally a nuisance. Even waitresses turn their noses when you leave a tip in coins. So, usually coins that are received as change from my travels end up in a bowl at home. Not this time.

This clever machine accepts pesos and allows you to transfer the amount directly to your PayPal account. I got rid of nearly 200 pesos this way. Not a whole lot in USD but it saved me the agony of carrying back coins. Now this is something I have never seen before, not at some of the best airports around the world. Is this a first, that too in NAIA? Is that possible? People with more travel wisdom to comment. Thanks.

Mogwai
01-13-16, 09:02
This clever machine accepts pesos and allows you to transfer the amount directly to your PayPal account. I got rid of nearly 200 pesos this way. Not a whole lot in USD but it saved me the agony of carrying back coins. Now this is something I have never seen before, not at some of the best airports around the world. Is this a first, that too in NAIA? Is that possible? People with more travel wisdom to comment. Thanks.Did you check your PayPal account to see if the money was really transferred? Maybe this is just another scam at NAIA, LOL!

Blanquiceleste
01-13-16, 14:14
Did you check your PayPal account to see if the money was really transferred? Maybe this is just another scam at NAIA, LOL!Mogwai, you nailed it. 5555.

The thought did cross my mind. I did check my PayPal account for credits and it was indeed there. The exchange rate applied, however, was less than attractive.

Blanquiceleste
01-14-16, 15:28
Angeles City, Fields Avenue 31 Dec 2015 circa 10:00 pm. I had picked up my girl from Angelwitch and was taking the shuttle back to the Lewis Grand where I was staying. On the way I stopped at JJ Supermarket to pick up some booze and bites. So all I had was 1 cardboard coupon with a number on it (for the booze) and a couple of packets of chips. I went and stood in the "strictly 5 items only" line where there were just 2 people ahead of me. The lady ahead had nothing but 4 coupons in her hand, so I thought this would be a shoonze.

Well. For a minute I guess I forgot this is the Philippines. The lady ahead of me in queue gives her coupons and the total works out to 2340 P. And then the horror began. She pulled out a big wad of cash from her purse and started counting. ALL TWENTIES. So she counted once, twice and then thrice and handed it over to the cashier who repeated the counting 3 more times.

I almost exploded standing there. My girl was waiting in the shuttle and time was ticking away. I wanted to get at least a drink or two in before the clock struck midnight. MAybe make out a bit. It took them well over 25 minutes to complete the circus. Next up my total was 1280 P which I paid with 1 x1000,2 x100,4 x20 and smiled at the cashier. She smiled back and gave me the receipt.

GROSS IDIOTS! Thank God they did not bring the money in coins of fives and tens.

P.S. - For those who would wonder why I did not move queues, the place was teeming with people and most of the other queues were snaking back into the alleys of merchandise stored in racks.

Dark Knight1
01-14-16, 15:55
Dumaguete City, Negros Oriental, Philippines Police said on Monday they would file charges against the cook and bouncer of a resto-bar here who have been identified as among those who mauled and killed an American who was teaching photojournalism in a university here.

The charges would be based on a 10-minute footage from a close-circuit television camera that showed Glen Eltagundi and a certain Boyet, cook and bouncer of the ZanZibar Restaurant, as among those who beat up Philippe Prins on Dec. 26, outside the resto-bar, an officer of the Dumaguete City Police Office said.

The foreigner died in the hospital two days later due to severe head trauma.

Aside from Eltagundi and Boyet, police have identified two other suspects, who are minors.

Inspector Blas Alpeche, Dumaguete City Police Office investigation chief, said they were still determining the motive of the mauling.

They were also getting the addresses of the suspects so they could ask the court for a warrant of arrest upon the filing of charges in court, he added.

Prins, an American Army Scout veteran who was teaching journalism at the Foundation University, was seen leaving the resto-bar around 4 am Of Dec. 26 when at least four people ganged up on him, smashed his head with beer bottles and beat him up.

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A 10-minute CCTV footage submitted by the resto-bar to the Dumaguete police showed a foreigner was talking to a group of men after leaving the bar.

A few minutes after, a man hit the foreigner's head with a liquor bottle and then three others took turns in beating Prins up until he stopped moving.

The attackers then left him.

For seven minutes, the foreigner was left lying on the ground. Nobody dared to come near him until an ambulance arrived and brought him to the nearest hospital.

Prins was in a coma in the hospital for two days due to severe hemorrhage in the head until he died on Dec. 28. His remains were cremated and would be brought back to the United States.

The killing prompted the Dumaguete City government to investigate the resto-bar to check if it had proper permits to operate.

Dumaguete City Administrator William Ablong said a notice of closure would be issued against the resto-bar after they found out that it didn't have a mayor's permit and a building permit.

http://globalnation.inquirer.net/134525/134525

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=3fa_1451710066

Fastpiston
01-14-16, 20:37
Angeles City, Fields Avenue 31 Dec 2015 circa 10:00 pm. I had picked up my girl from Angelwitch and was taking the shuttle back to the Lewis Grand where I was staying. On the way I stopped at JJ Supermarket to pick up some booze and bites. So all I had was 1 cardboard coupon with a number on it (for the booze) and a couple of packets of chips. I went and stood in the "strictly 5 items only" line where there were just 2 people ahead of me. The lady ahead had nothing but 4 coupons in her hand, so I thought this would be a shoonze.

Well. For a minute I guess I forgot this is the Philippines. The lady ahead of me in queue gives her coupons and the total works out to 2340 P. And then the horror began. She pulled out a big wad of cash from her purse and started counting. ALL TWENTIES. So she counted once, twice and then thrice and handed it over to the cashier who repeated the counting 3 more times.

I almost exploded standing there. My girl was waiting in the shuttle and time was ticking away. I wanted to get at least a drink or two in before the clock struck midnight. MAybe make out a bit. It took them well over 25 minutes to complete the circus. Next up my total was 1280 P which I paid with 1 x1000,2 x100,4 x20 and smiled at the cashier. She smiled back and gave me the receipt.

GROSS IDIOTS! Thank God they did not bring the money in coins of fives and tens.

P.S. - For those who would wonder why I did not move queues, the place was teeming with people and most of the other queues were snaking back into the alleys of merchandise stored in racks.I never go to JJs, maybe I am a snob, but it feels like a squatters shop. I just pay a bit more and go to 7-Elevens.

Sxxxx
01-15-16, 02:28
I never go to JJs, maybe I am a snob, but it feels like a squatters shop. I just pay a bit more and go to 7-Elevens.In respect of Kisses chocs 7 Eleven has only one pack size / type, JJ's has many choices in respect of Kisses, and in effect cheaper. 7 Eleven near JJ's has a reputation for trying to rip off foreigners with change. JJ's is 24/7 too, I believe. For Kisses chocs, the great 'leg opener of the Phils' , its JJ's, when in Angeles. 7 Eleven has its uses, but not when it comes to Kisses chocs, LOL. Out of stock sometimes too. JJ's very big stock. OK guys, for the best leg openers in Phils, and Angeles in particular, its JJ's Kisses chocs.

Perchie15
01-19-16, 04:27
Hey guys,

This will be my first time to Phil, just looking for a bit of advice.

Do you recommend not staying at same hotel for 2 weeks?

And I've read few posts on here to say on DIA and Tell the girls a BS story about wife and such LOL no luck! I get more replays with being sincere. Of course the Filipino all want marriage first so how do I skip that I've tried the girls under 25 still same thing.

I thought about flying around Phil as I was told to. And any city's you highly suggest? I know AC AND CEBU seem to be popular on here?? And Manila is a joke?

Best to get Canadian money exchanged over there? Or threw bank?

What do you guys say to the girls on the dating sites? I have like no game LOL bad with words!

Any places to really watch out for (I'll be by myself l).

I plan on going possibly in April? Is that a good time?

And that is all for now thanks for any help!! Feel free to PM me to please.

Soapy Smith
01-19-16, 20:33
Do you recommend not staying at same hotel for 2 weeks?

And I've read few posts on here to say on DIA and Tell the girls a BS story about wife and such LOL no luck! I get more replays with being sincere. Of course the Filipino all want marriage first so how do I skip that I've tried the girls under 25 still same thing.

I thought about flying around Phil as I was told to. And any city's you highly suggest? I know AC AND CEBU seem to be popular on here?? And Manila is a joke?

Best to get Canadian money exchanged over there? Or threw bank?

What do you guys say to the girls on the dating sites? I have like no game LOL bad with words!

Any places to really watch out for (I'll be by myself l).

I plan on going possibly in April? Is that a good time?
P15,

Newbies often get slammed ("RTFF") here for a first post that is all questions. I note that you cared enough to pay for a membership, and your questions suggest you have done at least some preliminary reading. I am responding because I remember how I felt before my first trip to the Phils 10 years ago.

The only reasons not to stay at one hotel for two weeks are: number one, that some pesty woman may show up unannounced after figuring out where you are encamped, and number two, that you end up not liking the location or service at your initial hotel. If you plan to take in different cities this will not be a problem, given the limited stay permitted under the usual visa entry. But if you are really worried about this, then make your initial reservation for one week, and on the second day of your stay, just go to agoda or one of the other travel websites and make additional arrangements for the balance of the stay. Most of us find that one hotel for two to three weeks is no problem.

Just tell the ladies up front you do not want to get attached. Remember that their first priority is to put food in the mouths and a roof over head for their children, extended families, and themselves. The marriage thing is down the list of priorities but maybe always lurking for some of the girls.

For a first trip flying around a lot means having to learn the lay of the land all over again in each new city. Depending on your length of stay, maybe restrict yourself to a couple cities.

In my view Manila is not a joke. Lots of variety between the online game, LA Cafe and other Ermita bars, working girls in the malls, EDSA entertainment complex, Burgos area in Makati, Havana Cafe and other places in the Greenbelt malls (also Makati), high end clubs along Quezon Avenue in Quezon City, the casas, KTVs, escort businesses, and pickup bars that some of our guys with game discuss. And there is lots more to see and do in Manila than other cities: museums, parks, Corregidor Island, American military cemetery (biggest outside of North America), Intramuros (old walled Spanish city), musical and folk dance performances, and so on. Manila, one of the most densely populated cities in the world, is wonderfully dirty and friendly. Yes, lots of squalor and begging, but most people are among the friendliest you will meet anywhere. Most speak at least a little English, and many speak it well. You can't find another Third World city anywhere with this level of English proficiency. The grime, smell, squalor, and noise (honking horns, dogs, roosters, construction sites) will smack you in the face, but that's just part of the joy of being in a Third World country where English is spoken.

Recent posts suggest that money changers at the airport are open until early morning. The difference in exchange rate between them and city changers is minimal, and there is no guarantee in the city about their taking Canadian dollars. Don't know for sure as I am a Yank.

There are so many ways to score that you do not actually need the dating sites, but read back through the designated thread for advice.

The best advice for dodgy areas is to trust your gut. If it looks questionable, go around or get a taxi. Often not a good idea to take taxis waiting in front of monger establishments like EDSA complex or LA Cafe; some of them are there to exploit tourists. Walk a block away and flag down your taxi. Make sure the cab driver turns on the meter. It is mounted right beneath the radio area on the dash. Numbers are in red; if he doesn't turn it on, tell him to turn it on or get out. Some will offer a bottom line price for the destination, but as a newbie you have no idea if the price is right. Don't agree; just get out of the cab if he won't use the meter. The other prime piece of advice is that any stranger who wants to be your new best friend is trying to get your money. Tell them to get away.

April is an okay time to visit. April and May are the hottest months, and both typhoon and monsoon seasons start in late April and early May. Come prepared for rain. Bring two small portable umbrellas, because you may be caught getting from monger pickup joint to your hotel, and the little lady will appreciate her own umbrella too. Also pack some cheap extra toothbrushes, and cheap travel shower caps. Before the action invite them to brush their teeth and take a shower with you. Many have long dark hair and do not want to get it wet, but almost all these women, even those without running water at home, are extremely hygiene conscious and will welcome the shower.

Enjoy, and welcome to the Philippines.

WilBel
01-19-16, 21:34
Hi all,

I booked a hotel in Quezon city and after some search in Google found that this place is the highest crime rate in PH. Now I have decided to look for an hotel in Makati. Any info about the safety and any recommendations for girl friendly hotel would be highly appreciated. It looks like more kidnapping, theft and murder targeting tourist is happening in PH. Any valuable advice would be great help.

Further I have noticed that many countries External Ministry had issued some warning regarding the travel to PH like US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Denmark as well. Below is a few list.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Since mongering trip is something we do by hiding the facts from family members it's better to have some suggestions from senior peoples. My travel includes Manila an Davao city.

https://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/philippines

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/philippines-travel-warning.html

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines

http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/philippines#advisories.

Member #4698
01-19-16, 23:50
I thought about flying around Phil as I was told to. And any city's you highly suggest? I know AC AND CEBU seem to be popular on here?? And Manila is a joke?
Manila is no joke. It is my favorite punting destination in the PI loaded with great gals, great bars and various venues offering up a very healthy and entertaining nightlife. There are many decent restaurants and 1st class hotels in Manila too. Other punters prefer AC, mainly on a cost basis, although I will concede that AC does have a hell of a lot of bars, all on one street, and so it should definitely be experienced. The Manila / AC combo is roughly comparable to the BKK / Pattaya combo and should not be missed. Cebu City is ok, but actually no big deal, IMHO, because the Cebu City bar situation is just not as robust as the one in Manila or AC. Chat apps and mall pickups are the fall back position in Cebu City. Since I prefer to meet my girls in bars, I am not that gung ho on Cebu.

I wouldn't recommend more than 3 destinations for an introductory 2 week PI trip. If you are interested solely in shagging sexy Pinays then 2 destinations; Makati and AC would be optimal for 2 weeks and I guarantee that you will have a great time. If you are interested in relaxing on a beautiful beach too, then 3 destinations would work out fine. Read up on Boracay and Palawan (Sabang, Port Barton, & El Nido). These two islands offer two very different beach resort experiences and vibes. One is very touristy and has the possibility of meeting some girls and the other is more natural and less developed with virtually no opportunity to meet girls. It is all up to you.

Jack Burton
01-20-16, 02:29
Hey guys,
Best to get Canadian money exchanged over there? Or threw bank?
CAD has been Free Falling, so wouldn't hurt to get PHP early, if you can. JMHO. Just be aware of the 10.000 PHP rule. Or stop at Norma's on Teodoro in Angeles City.

Dg8787
01-20-16, 02:39
P15,

Newbies often get slammed ("RTFF") here for a first post that is all questions. I note that you cared enough to pay for a membership, and your questions suggest you have done at least some preliminary reading. I am responding because I remember how I felt before my first trip to the Phils 10 years ago.

The only reasons not to stay at one hotel for two weeks are: number one, that some pesty woman may show up unannounced after figuring out where you are encamped, and number two, that you end up not liking the location or service at your initial hotel. If you plan to take in different cities this will not be a problem, given the limited stay permitted under the usual visa entry. But if you are really worried about this, then make your initial reservation for one week, and on the second day of your stay, just go to agoda or one of the other travel websites and make additional arrangements for the balance of the stay. Most of us find that one hotel for two to three weeks is no problem.

Just tell the ladies up front you do not want to get attached. Remember that their first priority is to put food in the mouths and a roof over head for their children, extended families, and themselves. The marriage thing is down the list of priorities but maybe always lurking for some of the girls.

For a first trip flying around a lot means having to learn the lay of the land all over again in each new city. Depending on your length of stay, maybe restrict yourself to a couple cities.

In my view Manila is not a joke. Lots of variety between the online game, LA Cafe and other Ermita bars, working girls in the malls, EDSA entertainment complex, Burgos area in Makati, Havana Cafe and other places in the Greenbelt malls (also Makati), high end clubs along Quezon Avenue in Quezon City, the casas, KTVs, escort businesses, and pickup bars that some of our guys with game discuss. And there is lots more to see and do in Manila than other cities: museums, parks, Corregidor Island, American military cemetery (biggest outside of North America), Intramuros (old walled Spanish city), musical and folk dance performances, and so on. Manila, one of the most densely populated cities in the world, is wonderfully dirty and friendly. Yes, lots of squalor and begging, but most people are among the friendliest you will meet anywhere. Most speak at least a little English, and many speak it well. You can't find another Third World city anywhere with this level of English proficiency. The grime, smell, squalor, and noise (honking horns, dogs, roosters, construction sites) will smack you in the face, but that's just part of the joy of being in a Third World country where English is spoken.

Recent posts suggest that money changers at the airport are open until early morning. The difference in exchange rate between them and city changers is minimal, and there is no guarantee in the city about their taking Canadian dollars. Don't know for sure as I am a Yank.

There are so many ways to score that you do not actually need the dating sites, but read back through the designated thread for advice.

The best advice for dodgy areas is to trust your gut. If it looks questionable, go around or get a taxi. Often not a good idea to take taxis waiting in front of monger establishments like EDSA complex or LA Cafe; some of them are there to exploit tourists. Walk a block away and flag down your taxi. Make sure the cab driver turns on the meter. It is mounted right beneath the radio area on the dash. Numbers are in red; if he doesn't turn it on, tell him to turn it on or get out. Some will offer a bottom line price for the destination, but as a newbie you have no idea if the price is right. Don't agree; just get out of the cab if he won't use the meter. The other prime piece of advice is that any stranger who wants to be your new best friend is trying to get your money. Tell them to get away.

April is an okay time to visit. April and May are the hottest months, and both typhoon and monsoon seasons start in late April and early May. Come prepared for rain. Bring two small portable umbrellas, because you may be caught getting from monger pickup joint to your hotel, and the little lady will appreciate her own umbrella too. Also pack some cheap extra toothbrushes, and cheap travel shower caps. Before the action invite them to brush their teeth and take a shower with you. Many have long dark hair and do not want to get it wet, but almost all these women, even those without running water at home, are extremely hygiene conscious and will welcome the shower.

Enjoy, and welcome to the Philippines.Soapy,

A well written and objective post.

Dg8787.

Dg8787
01-20-16, 02:48
Hi all,

I booked a hotel in Quezon city and after some search in Google found that this place is the highest crime rate in PH. Now I have decided to look for an hotel in Makati. Any info about the safety and any recommendations for girl friendly hotel would be highly appreciated. It looks like more kidnapping, theft and murder targeting tourist is happening in PH. Any valuable advice would be great help.

Further I have noticed that many countries External Ministry had issued some warning regarding the travel to PH like US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Denmark as well. Below is a few list.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Since mongering trip is something we do by hiding the facts from family members it's better to have some suggestions from senior peoples. My travel includes Manila an Davao city.

https://smartraveller.gov.au/countries/philippines

http://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/alertswarnings/philippines-travel-warning.html

https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/philippines

http://travel.gc.ca/destinations/philippines#advisories.You only live once! It's not like some pooreigner gets kidnapped or killed everyday in the Philippines. You can always tell family you are on a very secretive covert military intelligence gathering operation.

Amanut
01-20-16, 05:50
Do you recommend not staying at same hotel for 2 weeks?

I thought about flying around Phil as I was told to. And any city's you highly suggest? I know AC AND CEBU seem to be popular on here?? And Manila is a joke?

Best to get Canadian money exchanged over there? Or threw bank?

What do you guys say to the girls on the dating sites? I have like no game LOL bad with words!

Any places to really watch out for (I'll be by myself l).

I plan on going possibly in April? Is that a good time?

My First reaction was to say RTFF, but I see a bit of myself in you as I am Canuck and have always traveled alone to the Philippines. The first hotel I stayed in was the Dusit which is a high end hotel. Just walking out of the hotel and turning the wrong way the first time had me crapping my drawers. You don't have to go far to be overwhelmed by the sounds and smells, and seeing the poverty. If you have not traveled much you have never seen anything like this in Canada. I was lucky as a Canadian friend arranged a driver for me who picked me up at the airport, got me through immigration, and who I used sporadically throughout my first week. I also had a wealthy DIA lady lined up to show me around. It turned out she wasn't wealthy and cost me some pesos by way of two day loans that were never repaid. LOL. None the less she showed me some of the sites, and was great company day and night, so I have written it off to experience but we still keep in touch with each other from time to time. You don't need game on the dating sites, just be polite and they will guide you and let you know when to start talking about what they are looking for themselves.

I never give my viber or skype info as I don't want to be bothered constantly. I tell them I only have YM which almost all of them have. If you get into talk of sex, or sex for money move them to YM as DIA have filters that will detect that discussion and get you banned.

Bring an inexpensive unlocked phone. Buy your SIM card at the airport or almost anywhere and they will set it up for you so you are ready to go right away to enter your contacts. Be prepared to be bombarded with texts once you give anyone your number. Texts are cheap. Phone calls are expensive. I have never bought a data plan as almost every shopping center and many businesses have free wifi.

Bring USA Not Canadian cash. Do not bring travelers cheques. I found it almost impossible to cash them, even at the major banks. I was finally able to cash some at the American Express office but they charged an outrageous exchange rate. Buy some pesos in Canada. Likely you can only buy larger bills at a little higher conversion rate, but money changers at the airport will change them to smaller denominations for you before you get in a cab because the cabbie will likely not have change. Other than that just use ATMs. Of course, don't forget to tell your bank and credit card company you are traveling or you won't be able to use them in your travels.

Two cities for your first trip is lots. Take your ladies or just yourself and see the sites as well. Just remember that the ladies often will tell you they will be your guide but often they will never have been to the places such as forts or museums either. I don't monger so have not interest in AC. My recommendation is Manila, then Cebu. Cebu is an interesting city in itself, but is also a great jumping off spot to visit other nearby locations such as beaches, or day trips to other nearby islands. Keep in mind that just getting the lay of the land and getting comfortable in either of these cities will take at least a week each.

Lastly, buy an ISG membership. I suspect that many senior members here will be able to put you in touch with reputable drivers via PM, as well as guide you to reasonable hotels. Membership has it's privileges. In the last week I saw a picture of a lady and thought I recognized the interior of the condo in the background. He confirmed and also informed me that the price we had paid four years ago is now half through Airnb. I'm looking forward to your updates.

Soapy Smith
01-20-16, 05:52
Hi all,

I booked a hotel in Quezon city and after some search in Google found that this place is the highest crime rate in PH. Now I have decided to look for an hotel in Makati. Any info about the safety and any recommendations for girl friendly hotel would be highly appreciated. It looks like more kidnapping, theft and murder targeting tourist is happening in PH. Any valuable advice would be great help.

Further I have noticed that many countries External Ministry had issued some warning regarding the travel to PH like US, UK, Australia, New Zealand and Denmark as well. Below is a few list.Does QC have the highest crime rate per capita, or merely the largest number of crimes? Both of these indicators may be related to the fact the QC is the most populous city in the Phils. Not all of QC is crime-ridden, and areas where many of the hotels are located are not necessarily dangerous areas. But few places in the Phils are free of poverty and people struggling to overcome their hunger in creative ways. QC mongering is not particularly well documented in the Phils forum, unfortunately, so moving to Makati or the City of Manila may be better in that regard. Others could let you know more specifically about QC crime potential based on which hotel you had selected--but would be more likely to do so if you spring for the $20 membership, which most of the rest of us have paid.

I think the threat warnings reflect kidnappings from Mindanao from last year. Neither Metro Manila nor Davao are usually considered risky areas.

GoodEnough
01-20-16, 09:10
I think the threat warnings reflect kidnappings from Mindanao from last year. Neither Metro Manila nor Davao are usually considered risky areas.Can't comment on Quezon City since I travel there as little as possible. However, Davao is likely the safest large city in the country and presents very low risk. I'm pretty sure that crime statistics, that I've read but can't remember accurately, indicate that on balance, Davao is safer than Manila in terms of risk of exposure to crime. Conversely, for those interested in chasing SYTs, Manila and its environs are surely far superior to Davao.

GE.

Econo Tech
01-20-16, 09:14
You only live once! It's not like some pooreigner gets kidnapped or killed everyday in the Philippines. You can always tell family you are on a very secretive covert military intelligence gathering operation.Agreed, foreigners get kidnapped or killed only like once a week, so statically, you are safe (joke. Pun intended.).

Reality is, 99.9% of foreigners who get kidnapped or killed set themselves in such situations the locals couldn't resist kidnapping or killing the fellow. Challenging the locals, drinking with the locals, showing off too much money, going off the beaten path just to experience it or confident in the believe that they survived Iraq, Afghanistan, or elsewhere, and PH is nothing (and in reality, Filipinos in some parts have no qualms cutting heads off for no reason, including their own relatives and kith and kin. No, they aren't blood thirsty, but it's like. Ah, I been butchering pigs, so today let me do a human).

It's just the other 0.1% who are real victims of circumstances or being in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Red Kilt
01-20-16, 10:22
Davao is likely the safest large city in the country and presents very low risk. I'm pretty sure that crime statistics, that I've read but can't remember accurately, indicate that on balance, Davao is safer than Manila in terms of risk of exposure to crime. Conversely, for those interested in chasing SYTs, Manila and its environs are surely far superior to Davao.
Fully agree with GE's comment, but he is, of course, quoting general trends and average risks.

These trends and averages do not account for the risk of opportunistic crime everywhere in the Philippines, so be aware of your situation AT ALL TIMES.

Back in 2008 I had a gold chain removed from my wrist by 2 excellent "artful dodgers" as I walked in front of SM Megamall in Ortigas Center in the midst of quite a large crowd at 3 pm in the afternoon. One dodger distracted me on the left side while the 2nd guy snipped off the chain from my right hand using a small palm-sized cutter. The whole exercise took 3 or 4 seconds, and could not be foreseen nor avoided, even though I am tall, strong and was walking purposefully and rapidly. They disappeared within the next few seconds.

Lesson learned. I have never worn any jewellery again since that day and it stays in the safe at home. Nothing to tempt them any more.

A friend's wife had her bag + wallet taken from her shoulder in the center of Makati at 7 pm as she crossed the walkway over Makati Avenue from Landmark Department Store in Glorietta going towards Greenbelt.

Both examples were daring and opportunistic, and both occurred in places and at times that defied any prediction or expectation.

The stories I read here about drunk or even slightly tipsy guys traversing the streets of AC and Burgos etc at any time of day and night makes me think that there must be 1000's of examples of guys being rolled that never get reported on here or elsewhere lest the victims will lose face on the board.

BrainDrain
01-21-16, 00:23
On my first trip to Manila, a friend gave me a list of things for survivial:

Run is cheaper than coke, so any drink will be strong.

Do not wear jewellery or watch.

Do not make any conspicuous display of wealth.

Leave wallet, licence, passport etc in hotel safe. Carry only photocopies.

Carry only the cash needed for the immediate task.

Planning for my next trip in a few weeks, I select the oldest clothes from my wardrobe. I donate my clothes to when I leave. I get home with just the short & clothes that I am wearing.

BD.

Sammon
01-21-16, 01:28
On my first trip to Manila, a friend gave me a list of things for survivial:

Run is cheaper than coke, so any drink will be strong.

Do not wear jewellery or watch.

Do not make any conspicuous display of wealth.

Leave wallet, licence, passport etc in hotel safe. Carry only photocopies.

Carry only the cash needed for the immediate task.

Planning for my next trip in a few weeks, I select the oldest clothes from my wardrobe. I donate my clothes to when I leave. I get home with just the short & clothes that I am wearing.

BD.There is no need to look poor. Dress elegant. If you are wearing old clothes girls think you will be a cheapskate. Except street urchins and some hustlers nobody is going to bother you. I have never been threatened and of course I avoid being too drunk and avoid lonely streets. Take taxi to most places if it is not short distance and especially late nights.

If you want to bring some old clothes donate it to street beggars but ask them first if they want.

FreebieFan
01-21-16, 01:33
Fully agree with GE's comment, but he is, of course, quoting general trends and average risks.

These trends and averages do not account for the risk of opportunistic crime everywhere in the Philippines, so be aware of your situation AT ALL TIMES.

Back in 2008 I had a gold chain removed from my wrist by 2 excellent "artful dodgers" as I walked in front of SM Megamall in Ortigas Center in the midst of quite a large crowd at 3 pm in the afternoon. One dodger distracted me on the left side while the 2nd guy snipped off the chain from my right hand using a small palm-sized cutter. The whole exercise took 3 or 4 seconds, and could not be foreseen nor avoided, even though I am tall, strong and was walking purposefully and rapidly. They disappeared within the next few seconds.

Lesson learned. I have never worn any jewellery again since that day and it stays in the safe at home. Nothing to tempt them any more.

A friend's wife had her bag + wallet taken from her shoulder in the center of Makati at 7 pm as she crossed the walkway over Makati Avenue from Landmark Department Store in Glorietta going towards Greenbelt.

Both examples were daring and opportunistic, and both occurred in places and at times that defied any prediction or expectation.

The stories I read here about drunk or even slightly tipsy guys traversing the streets of AC and Burgos etc at any time of day and night makes me think that there must be 1000's of examples of guys being rolled that never get reported on here or elsewhere lest the victims will lose face on the board.Took a young lady to a hotel in Sogo and looked in my backpack for my camera, and no where to be found. Some one had carefully and cleverly removed it from my backpack whilst I was walking in Glorietta. So now, my backpack is chest facing like all the others you see.

Dg8787
01-21-16, 04:05
Agreed, foreigners get kidnapped or killed only like once a week, so statically, you are safe (joke. Pun intended.).

Reality is, 99.9% of foreigners who get kidnapped or killed set themselves in such situations the locals couldn't resist kidnapping or killing the fellow. Challenging the locals, drinking with the locals, showing off too much money, going off the beaten path just to experience it or confident in the believe that they survived Iraq, Afghanistan, or elsewhere, and PH is nothing (and in reality, Filipinos in some parts have no qualms cutting heads off for no reason, including their own relatives and kith and kin. No, they aren't blood thirsty, but it's like. Ah, I been butchering pigs, so today let me do a human).

It's just the other 0.1% who are real victims of circumstances or being in the wrong place at the wrong time.It is plain stupidity that gets you robbed and more stupidity that gets you killed.

2 months ago I was staying in a Cebu hotel. Around midnight I went down to the 7-11 next door for a soda and brought one back for the doorman / guard. As we were BS'ing drinking our sodas a man came down from the elevator and asked the guard where was the closest pharmacy. He replied that the nearby mall was closed now and the nearest one was 5 minutes away by taxi and cost 50 pesos. The man then asked how far was it to walk it. The guard with a puzzled look replied, 1 kilometer and 15-20 minutes to walk and sir it is not safe to walk at night and the taxi is 50 pesos! The man said he could take care of him self he knew martial arts and continued out the door. Not sure if he could catch or stop a bullet from a tandem motorcycle driver!

Stupidity will get you killed!

Dg8787
01-25-16, 07:02
Be warned. I always though you were allow 7 kilos for one carry on luggage in addition to a "personal bag". Last week checking in for a flight at Clark, they weigh my carry on and it was 7 kilos. Then they weighed my backpack and charged me 200 pesos per kilo. According to the guard the backpack was over the allowable 7 kilos which was the carry on luggage. The check in clerk argued with the guard but the guard prevailed.

I looked up the CP website later and it now states that they allow a personal bag up to 7 kilos. Wtf! CP screwed us again.

GoodEnough
01-25-16, 07:26
During the past week I've spent time in Manila, Angeles and Davao, where I've lived for 11 years, and I've realized, with unusual clarity, that regardless of location, this place is becoming progressively more unlivable for me. The Philippines is, in many respects, a failed state and I've lost any hope of that changing during my remaining time on earth. I think given what is for me this incontrovertible fact, it may soon be time for me to admit defeat and get out, as the country in general gets progressively more intolerable with each week that passes.

I read a recent article that concluded that Manila will, by 2020 become virtually unlivable, due to wretched infrastructure, unchecked and growing traffic congestion, continuing corruption and general governmental disdain for the welfare of average citizens. I believe it. Davao, indeed all of Mindanao cannot, or will not generate sufficient electrical power, thus brownouts become more frequent and of longer duration. Government rhetoric to the contrary, this is not a problem that will be resolved any time soon. Angeles is, quite simply, a slum providing endless sexual opportunity. Cebu has become a Manila in microcosm, with its problems exacerbated by a lack of water supply, which will only become worse as time passes.

After thirty-five years or so of living in various third world countries, the ready availability of young, pretty sexual partners is hardly unique, and is not sufficient compensation for the total hopelessness of what I see here; at least it's insufficient for me. So, I think I'll spend more time during the next several months pondering alternative destinations.

FreebieFan
01-25-16, 08:18
During the past week I've spent time in Manila, Angeles and Davao, where I've lived for 11 years, and I've realized, with unusual clarity, that regardless of location, this place is becoming progressively more unlivable for me. The Philippines is, in many respects, a failed state and I've lost any hope of that changing during my remaining time on earth. I think given what is for me this incontrovertible fact, it may soon be time for me to admit defeat and get out, as the country in general gets progressively more intolerable with each week that passes.

I read a recent article that concluded that Manila will, by 2020 become virtually unlivable, due to wretched infrastructure, unchecked and growing traffic congestion, continuing corruption and general governmental disdain for the welfare of average citizens. I believe it. Davao, indeed all of Mindanao cannot, or will not generate sufficient electrical power, thus brownouts become more frequent and of longer duration. Government rhetoric to the contrary, this is not a problem that will be resolved any time soon. Angeles is, quite simply, a slum providing endless sexual opportunity. Cebu has become a Manila in microcosm, with its problems exacerbated by a lack of water supply, which will only become worse as time passes.

After thirty-five years or so of living in various third world countries, the ready availability of young, pretty sexual partners is hardly unique, and is not sufficient compensation for the total hopelessness of what I see here; at least it's insufficient for me. So, I think I'll spend more time during the next several months pondering alternative destinations.I came to the same conclusion also a while. Many Filipinos are forced to live there, because where else can they live but having to do something and the freedom to choose to do something else is a vastly different thing. I will rent or sell my property and live in another country with cleaner air, better food and equally beddable women. After all Asia is full of them for decent guys. Trips to Manila and the Philippines in general will be for pleasure and the moment the infrastructure challenges start to curb my enjoyment, then will happily head out for sunnier cleaner less populated climes.

New vehicles last year had a 23% increase on previous year nationwide. That's a lot more cars on the road and you, and other permanent residents there, know exactly the problems that brings.

Member #4698
01-25-16, 14:08
After thirty-five years or so of living in various third world countries, the ready availability of young, pretty sexual partners is hardly unique, and is not sufficient compensation for the total hopelessness of what I see here; at least it's insufficient for me. So, I think I'll spend more time during the next several months pondering alternative destinations.The PI seems more like some small Central American dictatorship than a rising South East Asian country which is too bad, but by this comparison I prefer the PI over Latin America. I like the girls better and I really enjoy the less developed island beaches which remind me of Costa Rica circa the '70's. As a short time visitor I ignore all the problems and write them off as 3rd world BS. Then again, because of the violence, corruption, and incompetence; I never thought the PI would be a good place for me to retire to. Frequent short visits less than 3 weeks in duration - yes, live here full time - no way.

I will be very interested to hear where you land next should you finally decide to leave the PI. Thailand seems to me to be the only viable place with plenty of girls, infrastructure, reasonable safety, and a healthy cuisine, but LOS has plenty of problems too. There is no Shangri La.

GoodEnough
01-25-16, 14:37
I will be very interested to hear where you land next should you finally decide to leave the PI. Thailand seems to me to be the only viable place with plenty of girls, infrastructure, reasonable safety, and a healthy cuisine, but LOS has plenty of problems too. There is no Shangri La.I haven't spent much time in S. America, but I spent years off and in in various African countries and this place reminds me more of some of them than it does of the rest of this region.

I recognize of course that Shangri-La is an illusion, amd that each person's illusory paradise is different. But all developing countries are not equally hopeless, and it's the hopelessness in the end, that has gotten to me. The more I read about Philippine history, the more I realize that nothing has really changed much here in five centuries or so, and it's my belief that nothing important ever will.

GE.

X Man
01-26-16, 12:17
Thanks for the post. Was this a domestic or international flight? What was the solution to the problem?


Be warned. I always though you were allow 7 kilos for one carry on luggage in addition to a "personal bag". Last week checking in for a flight at Clark, they weigh my carry on and it was 7 kilos. Then they weighed my backpack and charged me 200 pesos per kilo. According to the guard the backpack was over the allowable 7 kilos which was the carry on luggage. The check in clerk argued with the guard but the guard prevailed.

I looked up the CP website later and it now states that they allow a personal bag up to 7 kilos. Wtf! CP screwed us again.

Member #4387
01-26-16, 13:45
Be warned. I always though you were allow 7 kilos for one carry on luggage in addition to a "personal bag". Last week checking in for a flight at Clark, they weigh my carry on and it was 7 kilos. Then they weighed my backpack and charged me 200 pesos per kilo. According to the guard the backpack was over the allowable 7 kilos which was the carry on luggage. The check in clerk argued with the guard but the guard prevailed.

I looked up the CP website later and it now states that they allow a personal bag up to 7 kilos. Wtf! CP screwed us again.There are most likely different strokes for different blokes and by saying that I guess I was lucky. When going back from Manila here the other day I had for reason only booked 20 kg luggage but it weighed in over 26 kg. My hand carry was also havy bcs I was expecting trouble due to the wieght so I more than filled my handcarry (to at least well above 10 kg, didn't weigh and tried kept it behind me all the time at check in counter. No trouble at all and the checkin man just tagged my luggage, gave me boardingcard and off I went. Not saying I am special in anyway but I guess we can say they are a tad unstable and each minute you could get a different result. This time I was happy with mine.

Dg8787
01-26-16, 14:38
Thanks for the post. Was this a domestic or international flight? What was the solution to the problem?Domestic. Clark to Cebu. Solution was had to pay 1400 pesos.

BTW. Flew from Cebu to Tacloban today and had no problems with 20.5 kilo checkin bag, which I prepaid online, no charge for 7. 5 kilo carry on suitcase and 5 kilo backpack. If you been on the CP ATR plane then they weigh you too at checkin.

My next flight is to Manila and I booked Air Asia airlines. Tire of CP crap.

Member #4698
01-26-16, 18:39
I haven't spent much time in S. America, but I spent years off and in in various African countries and this place reminds me more of some of them than it does of the rest of this region.

I recognize of course that Shangri-La is an illusion, amd that each person's illusory paradise is different. But all developing countries are not equally hopeless, and it's the hopelessness in the end, that has gotten to me. I have never been to Africa. I have no real desire to go although strictly from a mongering perspective some Ethiopian and Madagascar girls have caught my eye. Then I read various reports in the respective forums and come to the conclusion that a trip there is just not worth it, but I could be wrong. It is just that I find it hard to think of a place with better girls than the ones in South East Asia.

After Thailand, I think Cambodia comes in a distant 2nd choice and possibly Bali, away from all the tourist madness, a third choice for the best overall retirement destination. I have thought about living on one of the quiet natural Philippine islands like Palawan, but I think I would get bored after a while and also stick out like a sore thumb. I might be wrong about that too, but I will probably continue to set my sights on Thailand. It is interesting and far from inconceivable that I might eventually wind up on a southern Thai island with a Filipina girlfriend. That would be a trip! Ha Ha.

Blanquiceleste
01-27-16, 01:06
I have never been to Africa. I have no real desire to go although strictly from a mongering perspective some Ethiopian and Madagascar girls have caught my eye. Then I read various reports in the respective forums and come to the conclusion that a trip there is just not worth it, but I could be wrong. It is just that I find it hard to think of a place with better girls than the ones in South East Asia.

After Thailand, I think Cambodia comes in a distant 2nd choice and possibly Bali, away from all the tourist madness, a third choice for the best overall retirement destination. I have thought about living on one of the quiet natural Philippine islands like Palawan, but I think I would get bored after a while and also stick out like a sore thumb. I might be wrong about that too, but I will probably continue to set my sights on Thailand. It is interesting and far from inconceivable that I might eventually wind up on a southern Thai island with a Filipina girlfriend. That would be a trip! Ha Ha.My first choice would undoubtedly be Thailand and I have my reasons:

1. Better infrastructure than most other countries in SEA (barring Singapore).

2. They have an economy that is not reliant only on tourism or on a single product / service.

3. They have variety in landscape if I want to travel intra-country. Big cities, lazy beaches, mountains, plains, etc.

4. Cost of living is still fairly cheap, especially in non-commercial locations.

5. It is still a Right Hand Drive country, so easier for me.

6. The girls are hygienic, hot and available.

7. I have an impression that Thais are generally more honest than some others in SEA, though there is no evidence.

8. The food here is possibly a 100 times better than any other place in the Region. I may even say that Thai food ranks among my Top 3 favorite cuisines. And it is bloody cheap.

9. Airline connectivity to other destinations is better developed than in most other places in SEA (again leaving out Singapore).

10. I speak better Thai than other languages in the Region.

Dg8787
01-27-16, 03:31
Good Enough,

35 years is a long time to wait for change. And no evidence of positive change forthcoming. I admire your great concern for your fellow Filipino human beings. I am sure your presence has at least made a huge difference in their lives. You have always made accurate and objective posts here of which I have learned quite a bit.

Good luck and best wishes on what ever your decisions are.

DG8787.

GoodEnough
01-27-16, 07:33
Good Enough,

35 years is a long time to wait for change. And no evidence of positive change forthcoming. I admire your great concern for your fellow Filipino human beings. I am sure your presence has at least made a huge difference in their lives. You have always made accurate and objective posts here of which I have learned quite a bit.

Good luck and best wishes on what ever your decisions are.

DG8787.Thanks DG. I have been in this country for 11 years, and worked in a wide range of developing countries during the other 24 years or so.

GE.

PolyOrchid
01-27-16, 11:03
After thirty-five years or so of living in various third world countries, the ready availability of young, pretty sexual partners is hardly unique, and is not sufficient compensation for the total hopelessness of what I see here; at least it's insufficient for me. So, I think I'll spend more time during the next several months pondering alternative destinations.Good luck to you, GE, in finding your next and, I hope, better lily pad. I found mine in Chiang Mai. And, although I love Filipinos / as, I can hardly take more than 10 days in-country before my blood starts to feel dirty. And don't even get me started on Filipino cuisine. When's the last time you were in any 1st world country and someone suggested, "Let's go have Filipino food". Never, right?

I think Natty Bumpo has the ideal solution: find a great Filipino and bring her with you to Thailand. I see more and more guys doing just that.

Hutsori
01-27-16, 17:46
After thirty-five years or so of living in various third world countries, the ready availability of young, pretty sexual partners is hardly unique, and is not sufficient compensation for the total hopelessness of what I see here; at least it's insufficient for me. So, I think I'll spend more time during the next several months pondering alternative destinations.Good comment GE. I have a tolerance, and often an appreciation, for Manila because I lived in the Middle East. When I get frustrated I just recall the stretch I did there and everything seems so much better. Maybe you haven't suffered enough ;) Normal appearing Filipinos wearing normal clothes just walking around and interacting in an un-Arab way puts a smile on my face. And the ease at which Filipinos receive an outsider makes it wonderful.

You haven't mentioned if you're multilingual, and that's something to consider. It's tough to learn new a language, and if it's a new alphabet too... Often as we age our tolerance for things wears thin. A new place with an unknown-to-you language, unfamiliar customs and ways of life, etc. may enchant some and drive others bonkers. What's that written on the shop window? I can't read the menu and there's no plastic food for me to point at. The nurse doesn't speak English. Certainly three-and-half decades in the third world gives you a frame of mind different from a bloke just arriving from the first world.

Presuming you're in or near your retirement, once you're done with rush hour and the administrative hassles of working life you can take on a city on your own terms, i.e. annoyance avoidance. This doesn't eliminate blackouts.

I've always loved the subcontinent. Plenty of remarkable things to see and do. The women are lovely until they chub up. The most beautiful regular, non-model woman I ever saw in my life was in Kathmandu. But it's a lot tougher to pull birds than SE Asia. If you don't mind the hippie back packers and spirit questers there are a lot a foreign women. Goa's Candolim-Calangute-Baga-Anjuna stretch may be worth a look. Or live a bit beyond it and visit as the mood strikes. Public transport sucks. India's infrastructure is a lot like here.

If you want very orderly and absence of hopelessness then it's Singapore. For girls there's the Orchard Tower / Geylang, Stulang in Johor Baru (still? And of course longer jaunts to Indonesia and Thailand.

Others have covered Thailand and Cambodia.

Sam 14
01-27-16, 18:56
Davao, indeed all of Mindanao cannot, or will not generate sufficient electrical power, thus brownouts become more frequent and of longer duration. I was in the Immigration office, I turned in my paperwork and had a seat. Five minutes later they called my name and took the money. I was thinking wao, this is going good. Then Click... The stupid TV and all the lights go out. The guy comes up to the window and shakes his head. So I came back at 5:00 (90 minutes later) and it's still dark and everyone was gone. One of the employees found me and told me come back in the morning. In a joking way I said this is a government office. He said "we have a generator but it's bogged down". Haha... I said you mean broken? He said ya. Then for dinner I went to Claude's. His whole place was dark and we ate with battery lanterns.

LifeIsABeach
01-28-16, 01:25
I have thought about living on one of the quiet natural Philippine islands like Palawan, but I think I would get bored after a while and also stick out like a sore thumb. I might be wrong about that too, but I will probably continue to set my sights on Thailand. It is interesting and far from inconceivable that I might eventually wind up on a southern Thai island with a Filipina girlfriend.I started my trips late last year on possible retirement countries. I am looking to retire at the end of this year. I live in the expensive San Francisco Bay area, USA, totally unaffordable with a small pension but that pension is huge in some foreign countries. Went to Cebu, Bohol and Letye. Cebu would work for me as I know some high powered people there and I could buy a condo on the beach. Agreed, unless Pinay food is well cooked, I do not want to touch it. Letye is much cheaper, very provincial, clean and green but not much to do and becomes a headache after 3 days. Great to lose stress but 3 days are enough. Hardly any traffic. I do not recommend it for single folks as everyone lives far and you would have to drive long distances, though hardly any traffic. Bohol gets tourists, both foreign and pinay. It is bit more scenic and more to do. I only did a day trip there to see the different sites like the Chocolate Hills etc and I had 2 girls from Manila visiting who got friendly with me. Pity I was going back that evening. It may be worth spending about 3 days in Bohol and see if you like it.

I also did Jakarta and Bali. Jakarta has a lot of fluff that I like. Indo women are a lot more wholesome than pinays. But too much traffic in Jakarta. Bali is laid back and you'll have to travel a bit to find what place you like. I stayed in Ubud for 2 nights, more peaceful than Kota and the people were real nice.

Off to South America this year, Colombia. Hard to decide where to move. Spain is another option for me as I am also a EU citizen but I do not get much for dollar there. Tough decisions. I may stay at places 3 months or so and then later decide. Thailand is also in the mix. Have not been there for 12 years.

Blanquiceleste
01-28-16, 01:42
If you want very orderly and absence of hopelessness then it's Singapore. For girls there's the Orchard Tower / Geylang, Stulang in Johor Baru (still? And of course longer jaunts to Indonesia and Thailand.I agree with all the points and all the destinations you have mentioned in your post Hutsori, but I must say Singapore is certainly not the place for one to retire. The cost of living here is astronomical. An 80 sqm rental condo in the 'burbs will set you back by at least $3000 a month. Owning a car in Singapore is next to impossible. A Toyota Corolla that costs roughly $18,000 in Thailand can cost upwards of $100,000 in Singapore. Parking is ridiculous, sometimes places charging almost $2 for 30 minutes.

Regular food is relatively cheap at the food courts and hawker centers but if you want a decent meal be prepared to form out at least $40 per person. A can of beer from a 7/11 can cost $5 and the same in a restaurant or pub can be $10 - $15. Heaven help you if you smoke. A pack of cigarettes (20's) can set you back by $13.

Telecom, internet, television, water, electricity, sewage treatment and other utilities are expensive too. And if you want a domestic helper that can cost you almost $1000 a month all inclusive. Medical facilities are absolutely top notch but also charge top of the shelf prices for basic treatment.

In fact there are more and more Singaporeans who prefer to go live in Johor Bahru or beyond as they start approaching retirement.

P.S. - This post may not really belong here.

GoodEnough
01-28-16, 06:42
Good comment GE. I have a tolerance, and often an appreciation, for Manila because I lived in the Middle East. When I get frustrated I just recall the stretch I did there and everything seems so much better. Maybe you haven't suffered enough ;) Normal appearing Filipinos wearing normal clothes just walking around and interacting in an un-Arab way puts a smile on my face. And the ease at which Filipinos receive an outsider makes it wonderful.

You haven't mentioned if you're multilingual, and that's something to consider. It's tough to learn new a language, and if it's a new alphabet too... Often as we age our tolerance for things wears thin. A new place with an unknown-to-you language, unfamiliar customs and ways of life, etc. may enchant some and drive others bonkers. What's that written on the shop window? I can't read the menu and there's no plastic food for me to point at. The nurse doesn't speak English. Certainly three-and-half decades in the third world gives you a frame of mind different from a bloke just arriving from the first world.

Presuming you're in or near your retirement, once you're done with rush hour and the administrative hassles of working life you can take on a city on your own terms, i.e. annoyance avoidance. This doesn't eliminate blackouts.

I've always loved the subcontinent. Plenty of remarkable things to see and do. The women are lovely until they chub up. The most beautiful regular, non-model woman I ever saw in my life was in Kathmandu. But it's a lot tougher to pull birds than SE Asia. If you don't mind the hippie back packers and spirit questers there are a lot a foreign women. Goa's Candolim-Calangute-Baga-Anjuna stretch may be worth a look. Or live a bit beyond it and visit as the mood strikes. Public transport sucks. India's infrastructure is a lot like here.

If you want very orderly and absence of hopelessness then it's Singapore. For girls there's the Orchard Tower / Geylang, Stulang in Johor Baru (still? And of course longer jaunts to Indonesia and Thailand.

Others have covered Thailand and Cambodia.Thanks Huts, for a kind, and comprehensive reply. I'm bilingual in French and English, and speak enough Spanish to get by and enough Indonesian to find my way around. I do agree with you that an inability to communicate detracts from one's enjoyment day to day. I did work in India for six months, and hated the place, so it's surely not for me. I would never want to return there. I've also spent a bit of time in Sri Lanka, so I know it's not a viable alternative for me.

It's funny that few people ever speak of any African countries as retirement destinations, but I think there are some countries there--Rwanda, perhaps, or Uganda or Ghana--that are worth considering. I had great times while working in various African countries years ago, and I wouldn't mind returning to a few of them for a while.

GE.

Hutsori
01-28-16, 09:29
It's funny that few people ever speak of any African countries as retirement destinations, but I think there are some countries there--Rwanda, perhaps, or Uganda or Ghana--that are worth considering. I had great times while working in various African countries years ago, and I wouldn't mind returning to a few of them for a while.

GE.With Africa there's the stereotype of it being unstable and dangerous. That's true for many countries but not all, for instance Botswana, Gabon and Mauritius. Of the three you mentioned I'd look at Ghana. Rwanda is over populated and this exacerbates the Hutu-Tutsi issues, and the Congo and Burundi are a mess, and have the same Hutu-Tutsi issues. Has genuine reconciliation and healing has taken place or is it forced silence? If it's the latter, and I believe it is, then the tensions are just below the surface and can erupt easily. Uganda is too close to the mess that is Somalia and Sudan, and home-grown lunatics such as Idi Amin and the Lord's Resistance Army give me pause. Is there something in the water? The French are much more active in their former colonies, and if a major disturbance occurs it's more likely the FFL will show up.

The cost of living as an expat is important. For years Brazzaville was the world's most expensive city to live as expat, and now it's Luanda. Too little decent quality housing results in extortionate rents. You see the same problem in Angola and Equatorial Guinea; the huge majority live on a few dollars a day in hovels and the foreign NGOs, diplomats, and mining / oil execs live very well. Mercer does a yearly cost of living survey that's informative but has a problem as it uses NYC as its baseline. I don't expect to live a London or NYC lifestyle in the third world, though it's nice to pick up some imported delicacies on occasion. The more one can localise the cheaper it'll be. This website also looks good, https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living.

FreebieFan
01-28-16, 10:51
With Africa there's the stereotype of it being unstable and dangerous. That's true for many countries but not all, for instance Botswana, Gabon and Mauritius. Of the three you mentioned I'd look at Ghana. Rwanda is over populated and this exacerbates the Hutu-Tutsi issues, and the Congo and Burundi are a mess, and have the same Hutu-Tutsi issues. Has genuine reconciliation and healing has taken place or is it forced silence? If it's the latter, and I believe it is, then the tensions are just below the surface and can erupt easily. Uganda is too close to the mess that is Somalia and Sudan, and home-grown lunatics such as Idi Amin and the Lord's Resistance Army give me pause. Is there something in the water? The French are much more active in their former colonies, and if a major disturbance occurs it's more likely the FFL will show up.

The cost of living as an expat is important. For years Brazzaville was the world's most expensive city to live as expat, and now it's Luanda. Too little decent quality housing results in extortionate rents. You see the same problem in Angola and Equatorial Guinea; the huge majority live on a few dollars a day in hovels and the foreign NGOs, diplomats, and mining / oil execs live very well. Mercer does a yearly cost of living survey that's informative but has a problem as it uses NYC as its baseline. I don't expect to live a London or NYC lifestyle in the third world, though it's nice to pick up some imported delicacies on occasion. The more one can localise the cheaper it'll be. This website also looks good, https://www.expatistan.com/cost-of-living.Having been in Brazaville there was no reason for it to ever be so high. Although Pointe Noir, when the oil price was high did have some crazy prices especially the white skin tax.

Had a few great year in RSA and I could happily live there again although would need to be safely, but theres an easy to obtyain Retirement visa and the cost of housing is low and the quality is superbly high. But you might never be totaly relaxed because of crime but then that might also be the case all over Africa. Retiring in Kenya a few years ago would have been ideal but now Al Shabbab and Al Boabab (joke) have taken away the paradise and left an uneasy mess. Madagascar has some great places, beaches, food and obviously requires French to a large degree. An ideal scenario Sir GE, might be 3 months Africa (given that you know the place, and it certainly takes some getting used to), 6 months Thailand because Thailand is easy and that leaves 3 months a year for other places. There are some great houses to " sit " in good places such as Christchurch and Perth that are happy with 3 months plus housesitting and a whole host of housesitting websites that go along with that. Could be a fun and cheap way to stay in the civilised world but still keeping ones options open. Just another possibility, as I'm going through the same thought machinations of " where shall I be living " soon, too.

Member #4387
01-31-16, 09:37
I must give credit to my co worker which here the other day called my office and "called in horny". He is one of the few I indulge into my mongering events and I told him I never wanted to hear him call in sick anymore as I know he is a horny guy. I encourage my staff to be honest and calling in horny is right up my alley. Its honest, sweet and calls for at least one paid horny day. The only thing I required was pictures to be taken so we will see how that goes.

Mr Enternational
02-04-16, 05:28
History lesson.

Soapy Smith
02-05-16, 20:05
History lesson.Sangley was also a derogatory, racist term, and, because of prejudicial views toward these people, a number of them were forcibly moved from the areas of Manila city in the waterfront near what is now known as Chinatown and relocated to what is now Cavite City, near the point of land (named Sangley Point because of the many of them living there) sticking out into Manila Bay, and site of a military airport maintained previously by the USA Navy and now by the Philippine Air Force.

BTW, the wikipedia posting from which you extracted the pictures is sort of contradictory. First, it indicates they were "pure Chinese," then it refers to them as mestizos of mixed indigenous and Chinese blood. One of many problems with Wikipedia is that people with a little information, like me, get to play dangerously with the contents.

If they all looked like the one in Mr. E's pictures, the locals surely didn't have much appreciation for beauty. And beauty, it seems to me, is part of the reason that mongers are often attracted to Chinoys.

Pantot
02-05-16, 21:00
I started my trips late last year on possible retirement countries. I am looking to retire at the end of this year. I live in the expensive San Francisco Bay area, USA, totally unaffordable with a small pension but that pension is huge in some foreign countries. Went to Cebu, Bohol and Letye. Cebu would work for me as I know some high powered people there and I could buy a condo on the beach. Agreed, unless Pinay food is well cooked, I do not want to touch it. Letye is much cheaper, very provincial, clean and green but not much to do and becomes a headache after 3 days. Great to lose stress but 3 days are enough. Hardly any traffic. I do not recommend it for single folks as everyone lives far and you would have to drive long distances, though hardly any traffic. Bohol gets tourists, both foreign and pinay. It is bit more scenic and more to do. I only did a day trip there to see the different sites like the Chocolate Hills etc and I had 2 girls from Manila visiting who got friendly with me. Pity I was going back that evening. It may be worth spending about 3 days in Bohol and see if you like it.

I also did Jakarta and Bali. Jakarta has a lot of fluff that I like. Indo women are a lot more wholesome than pinays. But too much traffic in Jakarta. Bali is laid back and you'll have to travel a bit to find what place you like. I stayed in Ubud for 2 nights, more peaceful than Kota and the people were real nice.

Off to South America this year, Colombia. Hard to decide where to move. Spain is another option for me as I am also a EU citizen but I do not get much for dollar there. Tough decisions. I may stay at places 3 months or so and then later decide. Thailand is also in the mix. Have not been there for 12 years.My two cents on this topic is wherever you choose to live I would never 'buy' anything. Find a place where rents are cheap which are a plenty in the Phils for example. Buying locks you in. If you are renting and conditions change and life becomes untenable you pack up and move on, in a moments notice.

Plus foriegners cannot 'own' property in the Phils without convoluted legal manuevers which strip you of alot of control and a large percentage of your investment. Condos are an exception but that buys you in to a system of upkeep out of your control which is notoriously lax in all of the country. Shit deteriorates fast in the tropics.

If you buy then you will be on the hook to 'sell' eventually and there is not a credible system for a foreigner to get good value for his property, unless you are incredibly well connected.

Its not a place to invest in. Wherever you go rent month to month. And live small and inconspicuously.

GoodEnough
02-06-16, 01:01
My two cents on this topic is wherever you choose to live I would never 'buy' anything. Find a place where rents are cheap which are a plenty in the Phils for example. Buying locks you in. If you are renting and conditions change and life becomes untenable you pack up and move on, in a moments notice.

Plus foriegners cannot 'own' property in the Phils without convoluted legal manuevers which strip you of alot of control and a large percentage of your investment. Condos are an exception but that buys you in to a system of upkeep out of your control which is notoriously lax in all of the country. Shit deteriorates fast in the tropics.

If you buy then you will be on the hook to 'sell' eventually and there is not a credible system for a foreigner to get good value for his property, unless you are incredibly well connected.

Its not a place to invest in. Wherever you go rent month to month. And live small and inconspicuously.Excellent advice. I have two additional criteria which loom ever larger in importance the older I get. One of these is quick access to decent medical care, and another is easy access to an international airport. At this point, Davao meets both of these criteria; there is one reasonably decent hospital care and there are daily flights to Singapore in the event I ever need world class care.

GE.

NewImage
02-14-16, 13:00
OK first trip soon.

Read this "although the Legal Age of Consent in the Philippines is 18, it should be noted that this does not apply to anyone trafficked into prostitution, as there is NO age of consent in prostitution, so all prostitutes are children under Philippines law. '.

And this "Also, the act states that there can be no consent between a customer and a prostitute, so it is also [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123).

The problem is a lot of foreigners are not aware of the new law which makes all prostitution, child prostitution. What these foreigners fail to realize is that if you walk into a bar in Angeles Philippines and bar fine a girl, it is now child prostitution because there is no age of consent for anyone trafficked into prostitution in the Philippines.

Age of consent is 18 unless the person is trafficked into prostitution, then there is no age of consent. All prostitutes are defined as children under the law now. This is why there are lots of foreigners in the [CodeWord910] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord910) haunt of Angeles Philippines in jail now.

Now I'm not into kiddie fiddling but "all prostitution child prostitution?

So does that mean police can come into my hotel and charge me just for being with a 45 year old " child pro" . Or "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123)" ?

SergeantRay
02-14-16, 18:41
My two cents on this topic is wherever you choose to live I would never 'buy' anything. Find a place where rents are cheap which are a plenty in the Phils for example. Buying locks you in. If you are renting and conditions change and life becomes untenable you pack up and move on, in a moments notice.

Plus foriegners cannot 'own' property in the Phils without convoluted legal manuevers which strip you of alot of control and a large percentage of your investment. Condos are an exception but that buys you in to a system of upkeep out of your control which is notoriously lax in all of the country. Shit deteriorates fast in the tropics.

If you buy then you will be on the hook to 'sell' eventually and there is not a credible system for a foreigner to get good value for his property, unless you are incredibly well connected.

Its not a place to invest in. Wherever you go rent month to month. And live small and inconspicuously.This is so true. In the Western world, owning a car, a home, a business, etc. , makes sense. In the PI it does not. "Buying" property in the Philippines is like buying a beer that you can't drink. I know of too many guys losing everything after needlessly investing fortunes. Rent everything, keep your costs down, and keep your ability to get up and move.

WestCoast1
02-14-16, 19:53
Read this "although the Legal Age of Consent in the Philippines is 18, it should be noted that this does not apply to anyone trafficked into prostitution, as there is NO age of consent in prostitution, so all prostitutes are children under Philippines law. '.

And this "Also, the act states that there can be no consent between a customer and a prostitute, so it is also Um, source?

Worf1972
02-14-16, 21:16
This is so true. In the Western world, owning a car, a home, a business, etc. , makes sense. In the PI it does not. "Buying" property in the Philippines is like buying a beer that you can't drink. I know of too many guys losing everything after needlessly investing fortunes. Rent everything, keep your costs down, and keep your ability to get up and move.There was an article that stated this was the main reason why the Philippines economy is in disarray. Unlike Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, even in Vietnam they embrace heavy foreign investors to bring jobs and up start their economies.

But the Philippine government to maintain sovereignty hold on to the ridiculous notion of taking 60 to 70% of any foreign investors money.

NewImage
02-14-16, 23:03
Um, source?http://filipinoaustralianjournal.com.au/age-of-consent-in-the-philippines/

Free2
02-20-16, 03:43
Here is a story my friend told me. I have known her for 3-4 years.

She has a friend who has been chatting with a Nigerian man online. The Nigerian has convinced her that he is coming to Manila to meet her so they can get married. She is in love.

The Nigerian then asked her for money to pay for his visa. She has since sent him 20,000 php! My friend knows this because she was asked if she could lend her some money. Thank goodness, my friend refused and even encouraged her freind to not send money until she knows for sure that the guy is really coming and not scamming her.

Of course, this is the soft way filipino's deal with each other. I would have told her no damn way am I lending you money and you are a complete idiot to be sending money to a scammer.

The girl is working hard to save money and has borrowed money from various friends to get the 20 k. She still is trying to borrow more.

I find it absolutely incredible people can be so stupid. I never send money to anyone I have not met, especially pinays. But for these poor people to be sending money to Nigerian scammers elevates the pinays to a new level of stupid.

WestCoast1
02-20-16, 06:34
She has since sent him 20,000 php! SNIP

I find it absolutely incredible people can be so stupid. I never send money to anyone I have not met, especially pinays. That doesn't make her dumber than you. Compare the girl to the thousands of sharp gringos and gringas who also get scammed by Nigerians each year. Those scammers haven't stayed in biz the last 20 years by picking on just dumb pinay.


But for these poor people to be sending money to Nigerian scammers elevates the pinays to a new level of stupid. That would be blaming the victim. Yes of course its not smart, but people in love, nearly by definition, don't act smart. There are no persons on earth who did not show bad judgement when they were in love.

Also, people who are the victim of criminal activity cannot be blamed for the activity (blame can only lie with the perpetrator), regardless the level of naiveté on the part of the victim. Here's an odd sort of analogy: I put on some bling, get really drunk, leave my cash showing out of the top of my shirt pocket. I go for a stroll through the barrio at 1 am, and I get mugged. Am I stupid? No, I have several college degrees. Did I show bad judgement? Yes of course. Was I to blame for the mugging? Of course not, only the mugger can be blamed. Did I deserve that? No, nobody deserves to be criminalized.

The wallet follows the heart. It also has something to do with the dick.

Dg8787
02-20-16, 06:49
Here is a story my friend told me. I have known her for 3-4 years.

She has a friend who has been chatting with a Nigerian man online. The Nigerian has convinced her that he is coming to Manila to meet her so they can get married. She is in love.

The Nigerian then asked her for money to pay for his visa. She has since sent him 20,000 php! My friend knows this because she was asked if she could lend her some money. Thank goodness, my friend refused and even encouraged her freind to not send money until she knows for sure that the guy is really coming and not scamming her.

Of course, this is the soft way filipino's deal with each other. I would have told her no damn way am I lending you money and you are a complete idiot to be sending money to a scammer.

The girl is working hard to save money and has borrowed money from various friends to get the 20 k. She still is trying to borrow more.

I find it absolutely incredible people can be so stupid. I never send money to anyone I have not met, especially pinays. But for these poor people to be sending money to Nigerian scammers elevates the pinays to a new level of stupid.Many people fall victim to scams. One example does not make a conclusion on a whole group. Especially a second hand story. I personally think someone who would draw such a conclusion would be stupid.

SergeantRay
02-20-16, 18:39
There was an article that stated this was the main reason why the Philippines economy is in disarray. Unlike Hong Kong, Singapore, Thailand, even in Vietnam they embrace heavy foreign investors to bring jobs and up start their economies.

But the Philippine government to maintain sovereignty hold on to the ridiculous notion of taking 60 to 70% of any foreign investors money.The Philippine government is so rapacious, so corrupt, and Filipinos are so eager to scam foreigners out of their investments that I advise against any type of investment or purchases in the country--car, house, business, bank account, etc.

Member #4387
02-20-16, 23:11
people in love, nearly by definition, don't act smart. There are no persons on earth who did not show bad judgement when they were in love.

Also, people who are the victim of criminal activity cannot be blamed for the activity (blame can only lie with the perpetrator), regardless the level of naivet on the part of the victim. Here's an odd sort of analogy: I put on some bling, get really drunk, leave my cash showing out of the top of my shirt pocket. I go for a stroll through the barrio at 1 am, and I get mugged. Am I stupid? No, I have several college degrees. Did I show bad judgement? Yes of course. Was I to blame for the mugging? Of course not, only the mugger can be blamed. Did I deserve that? No, nobody deserves to be criminalized.

The wallet follows the heart. It also has something to do with the dick.Firstly it takes me back 8 years ago when I met my, until today, GF. Sexy half phil half norwegan spinner, 175 cm, big boobies, ass as a rock and partly a model for a magazine I won't mention (not only national). Westies right about, when your in love, it makes you blind in some way. I was lucky bcs I bought my GF a BMW X3 as a gift on our 3'd date. Showing off, yes maybe, and my friends called me crazy. Now 8 years later, with a 3 yo daughter (25% asian), do people still call me stupid? No they don't! They are just jealous of my sexy spinner GF compared to their not so, anymore, sexy spinners. When my GF gave birth to our daughter she was running our inhouse threadmill 4 days after giving birth. She did her usual 800 situps a day (800 more than me).

The point is that love blinds you but sometimes good things can from it. When good things comes from it it is mostly out from relatively same aged couples, same social standards (I know this hurts but its true) and same level of edu. Not bastantic but there is a point inside here. Would my 12 yo younger GF fall for me without the X3? I just felt like giving her one. I ask her but ofcourse she's not viewing it generalistic. She knows I did what I did to catch her attention, maybe she would catch it anyway, who knows. She don't know and I don't know. Today she tells me, even if I have hit the 40 ies, I still look like in 30 ies. She is nice and by today she provides hughly into the family economy. So maybe wallets follow hearts sometimes but as my GF comes from same standard as me with quite some money I think its better to say that; children from same standards plays the best.

GoodEnough
02-21-16, 03:01
The Philippine government is so rapacious, so corrupt, and Filipinos are so eager to scam foreigners out of their investments that I advise against any type of investment or purchases in the country--car, house, business, bank account, etc.No argument with anything said above, aside from bank accounts, with which I've never had any problems. The frustration in doing business is not, however, limited to foreigners and applies equally to Filipinos, since the government's bottomless greed is blind to nationality. I know several highly successful Filipino business owners, and when we talk about the endless frustration of dealing with incompetent, thoroughly corrupt bureaucracies, they've got the same problems I do. This could be why, according to one poll I read, Duterte is the solid choice of A and be classes in Luzon. Of course, from the standpoint of morally bankrupt political leaders, the system works quite well.

GE.

Member #4387
02-22-16, 11:13
Obviously the guy I saw here the other day sitting at the back of the jeepney lost his as a guy at the curb observed this. While the jeepney stood waiting for green light the observing guy waited until it was the jeepneys turn to move. Then he ran in, snapped the unlucky guys phone right from his hand while texting and ran off to the other side of the street. This was a classic theft I guess.

On the other hand I have a line of girls in both facebook and viber. I never stop wondering if pinays are just clumpsy or simply extremely unlucky. In 2 weeks a singel girl have lost 3 phones, others two and most 1 (not all of my contacts ofcourse but actually quite a few). This is not talking pinays down but there must be something they do wrong as I know people in other parts of the world having the same phone until they choose to throw it away and change it into a new one. It seems never to happen in phils.

From a monger perspective this again creates big hazzles as the girls ability to loose phones means they will have a new number. As usual this creates they send me a "hey, its me" msg. With no additional infomation a new number plinging my phone with the additional msg makes me now just get irritated. I have started to answer harsh: "I don't know this number, who the f. Are you? Sometimes I do add in a "hehe" at the end to mild things up a tad). What I do hope is that the girls eventually will learn to at least introduce themself when they text me.

The phonecompanies and the stores selling them must have nice times operating in phils.

Sammon
02-22-16, 12:16
Firstly it takes me back 8 years ago when I met my, until today, GF. Sexy half phil half norwegan spinner, 175 cm, big boobies, ass as a rock and partly a model for a magazine I won't mention (not only national). Westies right about, when your in love, it makes you blind in some way. I was lucky bcs I bought my GF a BMW X3 as a gift on our 3'd date. Showing off, yes maybe, and my friends called me crazy. Now 8 years later, with a 3 yo daughter (25% asian), do people still call me stupid? No they don't! They are just jealous of my sexy spinner GF compared to their not so, anymore, sexy spinners. When my GF gave birth to our daughter she was running our inhouse threadmill 4 days after giving birth. She did her usual 800 situps a day (800 more than me).

The point is that love blinds you but sometimes good things can from it. When good things comes from it it is mostly out from relatively same aged couples, same social standards (I know this hurts but its true) and same level of edu. Not bastantic but there is a point inside here. Would my 12 yo younger GF fall for me without the X3? I just felt like giving her one. I ask her but ofcourse she's not viewing it generalistic. She knows I did what I did to catch her attention, maybe she would catch it anyway, who knows. She don't know and I don't know. Today she tells me, even if I have hit the 40 ies, I still look like in 30 ies. She is nice and by today she provides hughly into the family economy. So maybe wallets follow hearts sometimes but as my GF comes from same standard as me with quite some money I think its better to say that; children from same standards plays the best.If what say is true why are you in the monger forum?

You should be sitting home doting on your GF and your baby. Not touch another girl!

Wicked Roger
02-22-16, 12:54
I never stop wondering if pinays are just clumpsy or simply extremely unlucky. In 2 weeks a singel girl have lost 3 phones, others two and most 1 (not all of my contacts ofcourse but actually quite a few). This is not talking pinays down but there must be something they do wrong as I know people in other parts of the world having the same phone until they choose to throw it away and change it into a new one. It seems never to happen in phils.

From a monger perspective this again creates big hazzles as the girls ability to loose phones means they will have a new number. As usual this creates they send me a "hey, its me" msg. .All sorts of reason DS IMHO.

Some sell the phone as see the gift purely as a commercial product.

If you offered some pinays a Lenovo or HTC for example they would turn their noses up as some think is not a great 'brand', some don't know, some only know IPhone and some realize that the money they can get from 'losing' it would be less if not a 'branded' mobile.

So lots of different reasons.

This has happened to me ad some are genuine as jeepney thefts are rife as are 'snatchers' but when It happens too often and too regularly I just say get a small cheap Nokia (800 pesos) so we can still communicate. Then you can see the real pinay. Some just refuse the idea saying they need IPhone, Samsung etc while some get on and do it. For the former I ask why and say " is the same as we need to communicate yes? So why you need a fancy one to chat to me?

This is what frustrates me at times but also amuses at the same time, tis is the Philippines and these are cute pinays also DS (as you know as you see many unlike most of us LOL).

Member #4387
02-22-16, 13:50
If what say is true why are you in the monger forum?

You should be sitting home doting on your GF and your baby. Not touch another girl!Bcs, and I said this many times, my GF has only the same pussy. I crave new pussy as I easily get tired poking the same one (after a week or two). I am lucky as I travel extentively (like 250-270 days a year) so new pukie isn't much of a problem. Going back home my GF pussy seems like a new one.

That beeing said; you are obviously right in what I should be doing. But I am a schwein and never in my life have I been able to stick with only one pukie. Thats my problem and also the one thing eventually will lead to my downfall (I guess its pretty much like alcoholism).

Another obvious reason i am in a mongerforum is i like to share and most importantly i learn many things sticking to this forum and others. Life is in constant motion so i do pick up something from designated BM's like Huts, Westie, Good Enough(mostly them have something useful to share)which i find interesting. From that i can get new angel on things and even if we might not hunt from the same pale of girls at times i would say surprisingly a lot of their info have been useful to me. To speak about phils section of this forum i am more active here and even if it seems that way to BM's reading my posts i do have a Makati based daughter here as well and she is as valuable as my daughter back in Norway. The problem so far, beeing the big cheater i am, is that the Makati one has to be a "hidden" daughter. But one day i will come clear as i would prevent by all my recources a girl with my blood beeing educated in the rather floppy phil system. When she gets like 6yo its time to move her to my country. Atleast BM knows why i go that much to visit phils. Bcs i hate the country and the girls here are nothing special from girls all over. But due to the hidden daughter it is convenient to me to go here so i can nurse her and see her..

I hope this give u some idea why i stick to the mongerforum..

Hutsori
02-23-16, 21:02
Obviously the guy I saw here the other day sitting at the back of the jeepney lost his as a guy at the curb observed this. While the jeepney stood waiting for green light the observing guy waited until it was the jeepneys turn to move. Then he ran in, snapped the unlucky guys phone right from his hand while texting and ran off to the other side of the street. This was a classic theft I guess.I ride the jeep a lot and I see many soon-to-be victims utterly absorbed by their mobiles and lost to the world. Easy target. My jeep rides are from 5 to 20 minutes and I never pull my mobile out of my pocket. What can be so vital that it can't wait bit? I've had a few mobiles stolen here but not while in transit, and though I was a crime victim, I created the situation allowing the exploit; I hold myself culpable. If one chooses to disregard situational awareness one will pay for it. Jeeps offer a criminal open access, much more than a bus or train. In the west we're advised to take care when seated beside a bus / train exit as a criminal can snatch and dash easily.



From a monger perspective this again creates big hazzles as the girls ability to loose phones means they will have a new number. As usual this creates they send me a "hey, its me" msg. With no additional infomation a new number plinging my phone with the additional msg makes me now just get irritated. I have started to answer harsh: "I don't know this number, who the f. Are you? Sometimes I do add in a "hehe" at the end to mild things up a tad). What I do hope is that the girls eventually will learn to at least introduce themself when they text me.It's interesting that though their mobile has been lost / stolen, and with it their contact lists, somehow they still have your number. I presume some backup their contact list, but I've only met a few who do so; or they write down numbers, and I've rarely met someone who does that; or perhaps they sync their contacts to their email accounts, but when that happens it's often accidental. Maybe they have exceptional memories? But if they're doing one or more of these smart things, why then send a "Hey, it's me message" knowing the recipient will have no idea who the number belongs to? That's just dumb. It's like they're golden retrievers, capable of both brilliance and imbecility.

Sympalogy
02-24-16, 12:15
I have been able to get up to 25 k php at each withdrawal from HSBC ATMs in Manila (I tried many: Rockwell, Ortigas, Makati etc). I may have gotten more, but I didn't want to try because I have tried on first time using my foreign ATM debit card in HSBC in Manila, I tried to withdraw 40 k php, and my bank blocked my card and called me wondering what is going on (I have informed the bank I am traveling, but they told me to not bother, if they have a problem they will call me, and so they blocked my card on first use and called me internationally making it cost me more, anyway, banks be banks).

The second best place is Citibank (I tried in Aura Premier etc), and I can get there up to 15 k php. I tried for more but it tells me (15 k is the limit).

When I had emergency need for cash and no HSBC or Citibank were near, I used Banco de Oro. It seems their ATMs have a limit for filipino cards of 15 K php but for me it did not allow me more than 10 K.

The hoops exist because ATM withdrawals almost always give better exchange rates than cash changing of foreign currency, no matter the favorable rate. Yet, Philippines has some tax / fee of 200 php for using a foreign Debit card on their local ATMs, so to make this a good deal, got to take the most possible so it's worthwhile.

Kazeu
02-24-16, 12:28
Yes, HSBC is the best with regards to ATMs. I've been able to withdraw 34 k in the past. Never tried more than that. As a general rule, international banks are good and Filipino banks are not good. As another data point, I've taken 30 k out of Standard Chartered bank ATMs as well.


I have been able to get up to 25 k php at each withdrawal from HSBC ATMs in Manila (I tried many: Rockwell, Ortigas, Makati etc). I may have gotten more, but I didn't want to try because I have tried on first time using my foreign ATM debit card in HSBC in Manila, I tried to withdraw 40 k php, and my bank blocked my card and called me wondering what is going on (I have informed the bank I am traveling, but they told me to not bother, if they have a problem they will call me, and so they blocked my card on first use and called me internationally making it cost me more, anyway, banks be banks).

The second best place is Citibank (I tried in Aura Premier etc), and I can get there up to 15 k php. I tried for more but it tells me (15 k is the limit).

When I had emergency need for cash and no HSBC or Citibank were near, I used Banco de Oro. It seems their ATMs have a limit for filipino cards of 15 K php but for me it did not allow me more than 10 K.

The hoops exist because ATM withdrawals almost always give better exchange rates than cash changing of foreign currency, no matter the favorable rate. Yet, Philippines has some tax / fee of 200 php for using a foreign Debit card on their local ATMs, so to make this a good deal, got to take the most possible so it's worthwhile.

Sam 14
02-24-16, 15:46
. SNIP ... why then send a "Hey, it's me message" knowing the recipient will have no idea who the number belongs to? I must have lost allot of friends that way. Text from an unknown number: Hai how are you.
Fine, thanks! Who's this please?
it's me!
Yes, hello! What is your name please?
It's me, you don't remember?
Yes, what is your name please? What city are you in please?
You don't remember me?
Sweetheart, I'm sorry, I do not have magic power, I can not guess who belongs to every number in the Philippines.
Fine then! Goodbye!

Pantot
02-24-16, 17:04
I have been able to get up to 25 k php at each withdrawal from HSBC ATMs in Manila (I tried many: Rockwell, Ortigas, Makati etc). I may have gotten more, but I didn't want to try because I have tried on first time using my foreign ATM debit card in HSBC in Manila, I tried to withdraw 40 k php, and my bank blocked my card and called me wondering what is going on (I have informed the bank I am traveling, but they told me to not bother, if they have a problem they will call me, and so they blocked my card on first use and called me internationally making it cost me more, anyway, banks be banks).

The second best place is Citibank (I tried in Aura Premier etc), and I can get there up to 15 k php. I tried for more but it tells me (15 k is the limit).

When I had emergency need for cash and no HSBC or Citibank were near, I used Banco de Oro. It seems their ATMs have a limit for filipino cards of 15 K php but for me it did not allow me more than 10 K.

The hoops exist because ATM withdrawals almost always give better exchange rates than cash changing of foreign currency, no matter the favorable rate. Yet, Philippines has some tax / fee of 200 php for using a foreign Debit card on their local ATMs, so to make this a good deal, got to take the most possible so it's worthwhile.Well if your entire Phils experience is limited to Makati or Metro Manila you could get by with foreign Banks I suppose but good luck finding them in the rest of the country. If you are there on business and limited to the financial areas the branches may seem plentiful but in 99% of the country no.

I have had a few BDO accounts and one RCBC account. In general yes Phils banks suck and they will eat you up in fees with small accounts but so do banks in my country. They don't charge fees on ATM withdrawls if you use their branch and its better than walking around with your entire trips budget in your moneybelt. They have never stolen my money or lost it. If you go to a branch its always a time consuming experience. But its like everything else in the country. In the provinces the chances that your banks ATM will be down that day may be 1 in 3. BDO has a 10 K limit per withdrawl and its actually higher than the other Phils banks which have a limit of 4 k or 5 k. If you are withdrawing your home bank if they are on the network the low limit per transaction + fees will eat you up.

Here is how I make having a Phils account work for me. Occasionally I will do a latin american business transaction which will involve a wire transfer not big enough to alarm anyone but still some real money. The phils bank won't convert it at the best rate into a peso account but its tax free money so who cares? Another avenue is Paypal. I have a Paypal account which is based nominally in the Phils and I can withdraw money directly into the Phils bank. I set it up years ago maybe the rules have changed but it was real easy. That can only be done to a peso account not a dollar account BTW. Then the money is there waiting for you and available all over the country. At BDO its 10 K per wthdrawl but you can do I think 2 or 4 per day if I remember its been a while since I needed that much.

My first account was with Equitable PCI bank which later was gobbled up by BDO. Somehow it remains under the old rules so they don't fuck with with fees for a low balance as my other subsequent accounts in thiers and other banks which ultimately led to them all closing by thier own accord due to fees. Phils banks online banking systems are a nightmare. Enter your password wrong like my clumsy fingers combined with my bad memory and they always lock my account and say go to a branch. Since I don't live there I'm screwed until the next visit.

If you travel throughout the country for the combination of branch availability plus the 10 K per transaction I would 'reccommend' BDO. They still suck don't get me wrong but its a land of the blind one eyed man perspective. They don't have a BDO in Calbayog so once I ended up with a RCBC account if I remember right their per withdrawl was 4 k or 5 k.

SaltyPete
02-25-16, 14:32
Someone from ISG turned me on to the Schwab checking account a year ago, and it has been great. No foreign transaction fees and they reimburse the ATM fees that most Filipino and Thai banks will charge you. I can use any ATM and take out as much or as little as I want. I don't need to withdraw 20,000 just to avoid paying an ATM fee, at the cost of feeling like a mugging target. I transfer funds from my regular bank to this one a few days before my trip. If, heaven forbid, I happen to get scammed by an ATM skimmer, the damage is limited to what I have in this smaller account. Like most banks, they require a heads-up before you use the card overseas. And it does take a few days for them to credit a transfer to the account. But there are no fees.

My thanks to whoever tipped me off to this.

Sympalogy
02-25-16, 21:10
Well if your entire Phils experience is limited to Makati or Metro Manila you could get by with foreign Banks I suppose but good luck finding them in the rest of the country. If you are there on business and limited to the financial areas the branches may seem plentiful but in 99% of the country no.HSBC ATMs are all over Asia and Philippines, you can even find one in Davao, Mindanao.

But yeah, if your needs take you to smaller parts of the PH, then BDO is recommended as the best of the ones that suck. I'm not "permanent" enough in PH to make a bank account.

X Man
02-26-16, 01:03
Good information on banking. I was told you must have residence in Philippines to open a local account. Is that the case?

Looking at the retire in Philippines info, you must have a certain amount of money in the country. Isn't that a contradiction?

Where I live the HSBC has a very high minimum. Pantot, I remember the original Schwab info but never followed thru. I'll have to look at that again.

Red Kilt
02-26-16, 04:52
HSBC ATMs are all over Asia and Philippines, you can even find one in Davao, Mindanao.
As a long-term depositor with HSBC and a frequent traveller to other parts of SE Asia, I must challenge your assertion that HSBC ATMs are "all over" the Philippines (and elsewhere).

I respectfully suggest that HSBC ATMs are only in Makati (inc Rockwell and Enterprise Center) and Ortigas in Manila, near Ayala Mall in Cebu and in Davao; nowhere else (unless I can be enlightened).

There are none in Lao PDR (Vientiane). They are here and there in Hanoi and HCM in Vietnam, and I couldn't find one in Phnom Penh (Cambodia).

Note that all HSBCs, though an international bank, are franchise operations in each country, so it's HSBC Philippines, with all of the Philippines regulations and minimum depositis / insurances etc.

The good thing about HSBC cards though is that you can use them in most ATM machines pretty well anywhere (if you check the bank logos on the front of the ATM).

Pantot
02-26-16, 04:57
Good information on banking. I was told you must have residence in Philippines to open a local account. Is that the case?

Looking at the retire in Philippines info, you must have a certain amount of money in the country. Isn't that a contradiction?

Where I live the HSBC has a very high minimum. Pantot, I remember the original Schwab info but never followed thru. I'll have to look at that again.I am not promoting the Phils banks as a place to park your serious money. Unless you have huge money, nobody gives you any interest in any stable world currencies. I am just trying to offer my experiences in parking my cash in a safe place while traveling the Phils as opposed to attaching it to my money belt. Thats it. I go there 3 to 4 times a year for a fortnight for meeting gfs and new girls and draining my balls. I have zero business earnings there.

For me its been strictly about having a safe place to put my money to sustain my travels while I'm there. My first account they didn't have rules but now you are right they require a local address. I think still they don't really give a shit in reality. You could use your hotel address frankly. Its all a game last time I opened an account. If I had to open one today I would use my small friendly hotel in AC address. They store my bag and the manager is a trusted friend. Its not like they send monthly statements. Its all a pretense. Before when I used my GF addresses they never sent them statements. Maybe its changed in 2016 as my experiences are a few years old and world bankers tighten the screws on pathetic phils banks to gather info on foreigners.

I just park cash there while I'm there so I can suck it out from ATM's. If you try to suck it out from your bank, they will cream you with fees.

As I said if you rely on associated bank ATMs they are very unreliable in the provinces and offline.

If you retire there not close to a foreign bank branch you will have to establish some local banking account. Not to park serious money but to have fee free access to your money.

Mr Enternational
02-26-16, 05:14
Note that all HSBCs, though an international bank, are franchise operations in each country, My reason for originally opening an HSBC account was so I would not be charged for using their ATMs abroad. Well I would always get charged for using their ATMs in Colombia and Peru. I could call them later and they would refund the fee but what a hassle. Then whenever you called them they would want you to remember mundane stuff like the date you opened the account or the amount of your last ATM withdrawal as security measures before they would help you. The final straw was when they said you would have to use some kind of device that would give you a code each time you wanted to pull up your account through mobile banking. I closed that account and moved to Charles Schwab where any ATM fees that I incur are automatically refunded at the end of the month.

P.S. I opened both accounts online. I am from the US so the HSBC address was Buffalo, New York. The Charles Schwab address is Reno, Nevada. Neither account required a minimum balance.

Pcpc1688
02-26-16, 07:28
Bcs, and I said this many times, my GF has only the same pussy. I crave new pussy as I easily get tired poking the same one (after a week or two). I am lucky as I travel extentively (like 250-270 days a year) so new pukie isn't much of a problem. Going back home my GF pussy seems like a new one.

That beeing said; you are obviously right in what I should be doing. But I am a schwein and never in my life have I been able to stick with only one pukie. Thats my problem and also the one thing eventually will lead to my downfall (I guess its pretty much like alcoholism).

Another obvious reason i am in a mongerforum is i like to share and most importantly i learn many things sticking to this forum and others. Life is in constant motion so i do pick up something from designated BM's like Huts, Westie, Good Enough(mostly them have something useful to share)which i find interesting. From that i can get new angel on things and even if we might not hunt from the same pale of girls at times i would say surprisingly a lot of their info have been useful to me. To speak about phils section of this forum i am more active here and even if it seems that way to BM's reading my posts i do have a Makati based daughter here as well and she is as valuable as my daughter back in Norway. The problem so far, beeing the big cheater i am, is that the Makati one has to be a "hidden" daughter. But one day i will come clear as i would prevent by all my recources a girl with my blood beeing educated in the rather floppy phil system. When she gets like 6yo its time to move her to my country. Atleast BM knows why i go that much to visit phils. Bcs i hate the country and the girls here are nothing special from girls all over. But due to the hidden daughter it is convenient to me to go here so i can nurse her and see her..

I hope this give u some idea why i stick to the mongerforum..Skoggy what gives with the New "Donald Sucks" handle LOL.

PC out.

Red Kilt
02-26-16, 08:15
<SNIP> The final straw was when they said you would have to use some kind of device that would give you a code each time you wanted to pull up your account through mobile banking. I closed that account and moved to Charles Schwab where any ATM fees that I incur are automatically refunded at the end of the month.
You're making it sound way more complicated than it is Mr E.

The small device is no bigger than a thumb drive and is simple to use. If you lose it or forget to bring it then you can use 2 passwords already registered instead. I find the small device quite ingenious and carry it with me at all times when travelling I keep it with my passport).

I like the added security HSBC have added for internet banking. There are a lot of very smart hackers out there who would love to get into anybody's accounts. I also don't pay fees because of the way my account was originally set-up.

Wicked Roger
02-26-16, 10:42
You're making it sound way more complicated than it is Mr E.

The small device is no bigger than a thumb drive and is simple to use. If you lose it or forget to bring it then you can use 2 passwords already registered instead. I find the small device quite ingenious and carry it with me at all times when travelling I keep it with my passport).

I like the added security HSBC have added for internet banking. There are a lot of very smart hackers out there who would love to get into anybody's accounts. I also don't pay fees because of the way my account was originally set-up.I agree RK. I have small devices for the HSBC account I have worldwide and they are always traveling with me. While you can use the password route f needed, if you want to transfer cash between accounts and / or pay bills I find you need them. You can do via the phone but this can be tedious.

The only 'pain' I have is when it insists sending me a verification text message but won't do so to my roaming number. This has caused untold grief in the past especially in the CIS states and led to the blocking of my credit card. Dealing with HSBC's CS was not easy at that time.

Sympalogy
02-26-16, 18:37
I respectfully suggest that HSBC ATMs are only in Makati (inc Rockwell and Enterprise Center) and Ortigas in Manila, near Ayala Mall in Cebu and in Davao; nowhere else (unless I can be enlightened).It seems there is an HSBC ATM in Davao city.

Address: G / F Luisa Building, Emilio Jacinto Ext, Davao City, 8000 Davao del Sur, Philippines.

I'll check it out on the ground soon and report.

Also, I don't have an HSBC account, where I am, it has the worst customer service of all banks. But it's the bank that gives the most money in the ATM in most countries, so I use it.

GoodEnough
02-27-16, 06:25
It seems there is an HSBC ATM in Davao city.

Address: G / F Luisa Building, Emilio Jacinto Ext, Davao City, 8000 Davao del Sur, Philippines.

I'll check it out on the ground soon and report.

Also, I don't have an HSBC account, where I am, it has the worst customer service of all banks. But it's the bank that gives the most money in the ATM in most countries, so I use it.No need to check it out. I use it frequently and can withdraw up to Php40,000 per single transaction. Its ATM is quite reliable amd I don't think I've ever seen it out of service.

GE.

X Man
02-27-16, 15:20
That's a lot of blue paper. Do you go to the bank with a wheelbarrow?


No need to check it out. I use it frequently and can withdraw up to Php40,000 per single transaction. Its ATM is quite reliable amd I don't think I've ever seen it out of service.

GE.

NewImage
02-27-16, 15:30
Have noticed on Photo gallery pics of girls and assorted toys.

What's the go here? A bit of extra stimulation? An alternative while us older gents recover?

Should I invest in some before I go? Are they a novelty and thus lead to a better session. ??

Newbie asking.

WestCoast1
02-27-16, 16:51
Have noticed on Photo gallery pics of girls and assorted toys.

What's the go here? A bit of extra stimulation? An alternative while us older gents recover?

Should I invest in some before I go? Are they a novelty and thus lead to a better session. ??

Newbie asking.I bring 2-3 small 5" (tiny) vib dildos (AAA battery) and pass them out as presents after using. You can buy a 3-pack on amazon dot com for about $15. Sometimes they go quickly, sometimes I can't give them away. I sometimes bring a Hitachi Wand unit for clitoral stim. They are almost always a novelty to pinay, who have seen a sex toy used in porn, but would not otherwise have ever seen one in real life.

Socker
02-27-16, 18:35
From the AC forum.


I underpay and have a big dick. What is their reasoning for coming with me?Bottom fish will do anything for almost any amount. It's either you or nothing.

On occasion I end up w / a bottom fish because I want one, they have their special skills.

But they don't come close to a brand new gogo girl, not close in looks and feel.

Handling a gogo girl is quite the pleasure and worth the expense.

The most important thing (in this hobby) is that you're happy w / your bounty and Mr E is usually happy w / his.

One size doesn't fit all.

MrWoolyBooly
02-29-16, 04:39
I think dating with sex is my preferred way to go. I agree. For any stay greater than 3 days, online dating with double booking and bars for emergency backup brings satisfaction without fail. For longer stays socializing and meeting via introductions leads to hidden treasures. Other approaches for either longer or short stays appeal only out of curiosity or novelty.

LukeSkywalker
02-29-16, 04:55
Since I don't have precious time to waste in the Phil, What are your strategies in double booking?


I agree. For any stay greater than 3 days, online dating with double booking and bars for emergency backup brings satisfaction without fail. For longer stays socializing and meeting via introductions leads to hidden treasures. Other approaches for either longer or short stays appeal only out of curiosity or novelty.

MrWoolyBooly
03-01-16, 13:35
Since I don't have precious time to waste in the Phil, What are your strategies in double booking?My strategy mostly works for me, but has its risks. It's best if circumstances allow to use two near or adjacent hotels, but it can be more exciting from stress of being caught in just one. I arrange dates online with 4-hour intervals starting at 8 am (I'm a morning guy). All the main online sites have worked well for me. FB takes the most effort where a little conversation skill goes a long way, but the rewards in amazing unjaded local beauties is worth it. Each time slot gets two girls: Starter is the best girl I can arrange for that time, backup is the best one I wouldn't worry about offending and burning bridges with. Backup is scheduled an hour after Starter. I find many Pinays unwilling to arrive anywhere before noon, so the quality is much better starting with the 4 pm dates. If only one of the two shows up, then no problem. If both really do show up, I make excuses to Ms Backup and give a gift to show I value her time and hope we can meet again under better circumstances. Mathematically it works out to six possible dates per day, but I'm no viking. With no-shows, sleep time, eating time, occasional going-out dates, recharge time and extended stay with the best ones three quality finds per day suit me fine. Excitement is inevitable from hiding evidence, preventing the ladies from meeting each other, angry rejected ones, etc. Hotels near Burgos are scant minutes from plenty of willing ladies for emergency stress relief if all else fails. I prefer the hotels on Makati Ave to avoid discouraging ladies uncomfortable with meeting smack dab on the red light street. Hope this helps, please share what works or doesn't. I welcome suggestions to improve the process.

LukeSkywalker
03-01-16, 18:07
Thanks for your tips. How do you search for good prospects in FB?

Knowing the erratic traffic and Pinays' low regards for being on time, it's risky to arrange meetings for the same time slots. But I would definitely want to meet with a few in the afternoon to make sure at least one will stay overnight.

Pinays are nice, sweet, gentle, congenial, pretty with small frames and slim bodies. I really enjoy their companies and would have no problems sharing some of my wealth with friends in need.


My strategy mostly works for me, but has its risks. It's best if circumstances allow to use two near or adjacent hotels, but it can be more exciting from stress of being caught in just one. I arrange dates online with 4-hour intervals starting at 8 am (I'm a morning guy). All the main online sites have worked well for me. FB takes the most effort where a little conversation skill goes a long way, but the rewards in amazing unjaded local beauties is worth it. Each time slot gets two girls: Starter is the best girl I can arrange for that time, backup is the best one I wouldn't worry about offending and burning bridges with. Backup is scheduled an hour after Starter. I find many Pinays unwilling to arrive anywhere before noon, so the quality is much better starting with the 4 pm dates. If only one of the two shows up, then no problem. If both really do show up, I make excuses to Ms Backup and give a gift to show I value her time and hope we can meet again under better circumstances. Mathematically it works out to six possible dates per day, but I'm no viking. With no-shows, sleep time, eating time, occasional going-out dates, recharge time and extended stay with the best ones three quality finds per day suit me fine. Excitement is inevitable from hiding evidence, preventing the ladies from meeting each other, angry rejected ones, etc. Hotels near Burgos are scant minutes from plenty of willing ladies for emergency stress relief if all else fails. I prefer the hotels on Makati Ave to avoid discouraging ladies uncomfortable with meeting smack dab on the red light street. Hope this helps, please share what works or doesn't. I welcome suggestions to improve the process.

MrWoolyBooly
03-02-16, 03:11
Thanks for your tips. How do you search for good prospects in FB?
Rambling reply warning.

FB is the most time consuming, but here's how I'd approach if starting from scratch: Create fake FB. I don't have a picture at all and do well enough, but I'm 100% sure a few pics (that I will put on my next FB) would help immeasurably. Search for a common first or last name in the city you plan to be based in. Example: Women named Aquino living in Makati. Request to friend the ones of appropriate age, attractiveness, location, favorite novel, or any other characteristics you seek. With the ones that add you, look through her friend lists and repeat. They tend to add you more readily when you already have a mutual friend. Then as you grow your list of friends, start chatting them up when you see them online. I guarantee the steps up to this point will work for any guy whose pics aren't offensive and even some whose are. I have more in my list than I'll ever meet.

After that, I offer no guarantees at all on chatting techniques, but here are mine: Be polite and friendly. Clean humor works wonders. Make sure they know that you are a "poriner" and are already or will soon be in the Philippines. Ask them questions as if you cared about them. Be prepared to answer certain questions with each and every Pinay. "Do you have a family?" In normal English everyone except a rare orphan has a family. Translation from Pinay: "Do you have a wife and kids?" Next question is "Why aren't you married yet?" or "Why don't you have a girlfriend?" I've found the best answer to be that I'm recently out of a relationship. She will 100% ask you why did you break up (or get divorced). For breakup with GF, I've found the best answer to be "she didn't have enough time for me". For divorce the only answer they accept without thinking poorly of you is "she was cheating on me. " The roads from all that intro blah-blah to boom-boom are unlimited. Ask each one for her cell number. Figure out for yourself how much fact or fiction you provide. My personal view on this is often expressed in this forum by others: Just don't lie about intending to marry her. Telling her your looking for a GF or a travel GF or a travel friend or just a companion will get your schedule filled with friendly Pinays very soon. I'll keep conversation going by asking questions about anything in her pics. If I'm bored or testing waters I'll gently steer the conversation toward sex. "How long have you been single?" "Wow, that's a long time without sex. " (Her response will be illuminating.) Flattery has no immediate effect, but long term application works.

Your a senior member, so you don't need more advice than that, but for the newbies to having more fun in the Philippines. Don't meet unless you've seen her on cam or 100's of normal girl pics on FB. Don't send money, or if you do assume it is completely lost forever with nothing to show for it. Veterans may chose to send appropriate token amounts for bus or whatever, but the assumption of total loss remains. If you get the vibe in chatting that she's game and you're in a normal 1st world hotel, meeting her in the lobby is safe. SM / Robinson / Ayala malls are also safe for newcomers and much more comfortable for the girl if she's typical.

Last topic is "chaperones". Many girls will bring their sister / cousin / auntie / etc with them. Some will ask you in advance, but others will surprise you. If they ask me, my reply depends on my mood. If they don't ask me, I almost always turn them away saying "it was not polite to bring your sister to lunch with us without telling me first". Extreme hotness in either or both girls can override that rule. 99% of the Philippines (not the red light commercial sex venues) is outwardly conservative, and the typical girls are terrified of being considered "malandi" (flirtatious or we'd more likely say easy / loose). Single moms are 100 x more pragmatic and openminded in this regard.

LukeSkywalker
03-02-16, 03:44
Wow. WoolyBooly is a no bullshit, generous bro.

Thanks for your good advice. I am hoping that not too many cheap perverts will read your post. Hehe.

I really feel for Pinays' poverty and desperation. I won't judge them harshly even if they act needy or out of line.

If I run into you I will buy you a few drinks for your generosity.


Rambling reply warning.

FB is the most time consuming, but here's how I'd approach if starting from scratch: Create fake FB. I don't have a picture at all and do well enough, but I'm 100% sure a few pics (that I will put on my next FB) would help immeasurably. Search for a common first or last name in the city you plan to be based in. Example: Women named Aquino living in Makati. Request to friend the ones of appropriate age, attractiveness, location, favorite novel, or any other characteristics you seek. With the ones that add you, look through her friend lists and repeat. They tend to add you more readily when you already have a mutual friend. Then as you grow your list of friends, start chatting them up when you see them online. I guarantee the steps up to this point will work for any guy whose pics aren't offensive and even some whose are. I have more in my list than I'll ever meet.

topic is "chaperones". Many girls will bring their sister / cousin / auntie / etc with them. Some will ask you in advance, but others will surprise you. If they ask me, my reply depends on my mood. If they don't ask me, I almost always turn them away saying "it was not polite to bring your sister to lunch with us without telling me first". Extreme hotness in either or both girls can override that rule. 99% of the Philippines (not the red light commercial sex venues) is outwardly conservative, and the typical girls are terrified of being considered "malandi" (flirtatious or we'd more likely say easy / loose). Single moms are 100 x more pragmatic and openminded in this regard.

Socker
03-02-16, 04:04
Moved from the AC Forum.

This is the kind horse shit that is now piling up in the AC Forum. What in the hell is going on here? Why is this blow hard posting this crap in the AC Forum? What does it have to do W/ AC?

The words of wisdom from MM.

"If you want to teach someone something you have two methods, you may either tell them the answer or show them the answer. The more pigheaded, egotistical, or brainwashed they are the more you have to show them.

For those who think some people on ISG like Mr. E, Luke, Me, or anybody else is bullshit, this is for you:

Imagine tomorrow you contacted one of your friends who was not part ISG, who completely didn't understand the Mongering scene and you told them how many women you had sex with. How young the girls were. Told them about your threesomes and foursomes. Told them about your tongue baths and oral sexcapades. What would they say? Of course, they would say you are full of shit.

Even though you may think we are bullshit, believe it or not, there are guys with even better realities here on ISG. Also, you can't even begin to comprehend the life of a Star or a Professional Athlete.

So get over yourself, accept you are not getting the same results as others and then try to figure out why!

I speak 6 languages! Do you know why? Because a true monger knows a girl doesn't love with her eyes. Girls love with their ears, and when you can speak their language you have a huge advantage even for those that speak English.

Couple of nude pics of the freebies this last week with me also in the pics or at least my foot in the one. ".

And yet more incredible idiotic blathering. I mean completely ridiculous thoughts and beliefs. Somebody call a doctor!

Here is another Master Monger AC post;.

"I have been in Asia for quite sometime, the girls need to be lied to even slightly forced sometimes to protect their dignity and reputation. Some Asian countries will not investigate charges of any girl who voluntarily goes home with a man after midnight. It is all just BS and after you get your finger or your penis into her a little bit she is totally on board.

Anyway, it boils down to how you think about sex. Do you believe girls need sex too? Do you believe girls like sex? I only go out with girls under 23. Most girls at this age want to have some good experiences before they get married.

Sometimes, while I am removing a girls clothes I tell her nothing is happening. I say "We are not going to have sex. " "I am only removing all of your clothes to make you more comfortable. " I have heard them say a thousand times as I slip my cock in the girl. "Hey, you said we were not going to have sex. ".

All players lie, and all girls know players lie. Don't hate the player hate the game.

The Philippines is a dangerous place to off a girl and you should make sure the girls want to have sex or at least make it enjoyable for them. I perform cunnilingus on all girls even when they "say" they don't want it.

I would prefer to get the girls from a bar or a brothel, but not if the quality and service is lacking. So, I am forced to get them from other locations. ".

Mr Master, If you have to spew your know it all crap please do it in the proper forum, the General Forum!

ChineseAmerican
03-02-16, 04:49
Hey guys!

Thank you all for all the awesome reports. I've gone through the threads and definitely want to make a trip out for a few weeks. I'm a younger guy and want to stay safe so I have a few questions.

1) Where / how can I find the girls 18,19?

2) How can I stay safe? I'd want to enjoy BB, but I don't want STDs for life. Find a few girls who are willing to stay with me the entire trip and have them tested beforehand?

3) Out of all the cities, what has been your favorite and why?

4) What's your fondest memory that you think about every now and then?

5) How can I get cash in? I've heard security at the airports takes cash from your wallet. I'll definitely check for bullets. Haha.

6) Any other tips / tricks.

TIA!

Roger Sideways
03-02-16, 22:21
In preparation for my short trip to Manila next month I activated my Pinalove account yesterday. I restricted my searching to Manila only and the 18-25 age bracket. Within less than an hour I had two offers to keep me company for money, another asking if I'm interested in "me and my lesbian girlfriend", and more hotties than I will possibly have time for. I'll spend the next few weeks sorting the wheat from the chaff, but I can tell already it's going to be a fun trip.

Hutsori
03-03-16, 21:13
I find many Pinays unwilling to arrive anywhere before noon,Dating site girls are the solution to finding morning and afternoon meetings. Bar girls have worked until 3 am or later. Find the ones who work the night shift (covering the US) at call centres. They usually finish between 6-8 am. Those and students are my morning mainstays.


so the quality is much better starting with the 4 pm dates.Presuming you have one arrive at the 7 am let her stay until 11 am or so. She leaves and then you spend some time sanitising your place to get rid of the evidence, wash dishes, etc. Early afternoon dates are again call centre girls who will visit before reporting to their shift at night and students who have finished their morning classes. You want to get these girls out by 4-5pm or so because traffic gets quite bad. If you're in Makati or QC there are plenty of call centres, so she's not too far from work.


Mathematically it works out to six possible dates per day, Unless many of the girls live close by, six single, separate visits is really only feasible on Sunday. The weekday traffic is too fucked up. It makes for a hectic day. I think three is ideal. Plenty of hapenis without being rushed. And if a girl shows up late by an hour or so you still have 3 hours with her before she has to leave. I'm happy to have the night visitor stay over, but she knows she has to leave early in the morning because I have to go to "work".


With no-shows, sleep time, eating time, occasional going-out dates, recharge time and extended stay with the best ones three quality finds per day suit me fine. Potential no shows can be sussed out several hours before meeting by sending her a text reminding her and saying something like you're very excited to see her. Ask whether there's any food or drink she likes - makes her feel special, but it also compels a reply. Be specific. I cook at home most often, so I'll mention what dishes I could prepare for her. If you don't get a reply wait an hour and text again or call. Let her know if you don't hear back soon you'll believe she's not coming and you'll cancel. Put the burden on her to reply and confirm - don't spend your precious time constantly texting her for an answer. Also, requiring the girl text you when she leaves home / work an hour or so before the meeting time is a good idea; you'll know she's in transit. Avoid meeting girls from far away, like Laguna or Pampanga. Their travel time is always much longer than they suppose.

LukeSkywalker
03-04-16, 02:13
Hi Hut,

I will be there working in Ermita 2 to 3 weeks each time. I would like to cook some of my own food. I am tired of the food court in Robinson Mall.

What would be a good 2-week rental with a kitchen in Malate or Ermita so I can grill some beef steaks and pork chops?

Where should I go to find good beef?

Thanks for your info.




I cook at home most often, so I'll mention what dishes I could prepare for her. If you don't get a reply wait an hour and text again or call. Let her know if you don't hear back soon you'll believe she's not coming and you'll cancel. Put the burden on her to reply and confirm - don't spend your precious time constantly texting her for an answer. Also, requiring the girl text you when she leaves home / work an hour or so before the meeting time is a good idea; you'll know she's in transit. Avoid meeting girls from far away, like Laguna or Pampanga. Their travel time is always much longer than they suppose.

WestCoast1
03-04-16, 03:01
Dear friend, SNIP

Can you tell me how much money do you give to those girls you find on those dating sites? I mean if you will be with her for 2 hours and for overnight.

Thank you!I will wager 50 pesos that this gent is a re-invented FoxesHunter. Who is in?

MrWoolyBooly
03-04-16, 03:56
Dating site girls are the solution to finding morning and afternoon meetings. Bar girls have worked until 3 am or later. Find the ones who work the night shift (covering the US) at call centres. They usually finish between 6-8 am. Those and students are my morning mainstays.I've found college students sometimes available in mornings with much better luck when I stay near their uni. My luck with call center girls has always required pre-arrival blah-blah chats or multiple visits before boom-boom. I appreciate the bar girls before during or after their shift as emergency backup plan. For newbies: Get a few bar girl numbers. Chase your dreams all over town, but you never need to go to sleep frustrated.


Presuming you have one arrive at the 7 am let her stay until 11 am or so. She leaves and then you spend some time sanitising your place to get rid of the evidence, wash dishes, etc. Early afternoon dates are again call centre girls who will visit before reporting to their shift at night and students who have finished their morning classes. You want to get these girls out by 4-5pm or so because traffic gets quite bad. If you're in Makati or QC there are plenty of call centres, so she's not too far from work.I've never ever found a Pinay that's not a bar girl or call center girl just off her shift willing to meet me for a date before 9 am. Some of my best bed bounces and ongoing friendships have been with call center girls: Teletech Pasay, Accenture Ortigas, Convergys (QC & Cebu), Dell Eastwood (I think they're closed now), the list goes on. I smile at the wonderful memories. They're also incomparably more reliable and sensible and usually intelligent than the typical barangay (neighborhood) cutie at home with six siblings, no job, no prospects, no education, and no ambition no matter how sweet or sexy she may be. I can definitely recommend BPOs as a great source. However, for the newbie or short-timer, maybe not so easy. The only occasions where I had fast handshake-to-earthshake encounters with call centers girl they were either relatively unattractive or just had a bad breakup before we met. YMMV. I met them all via dating sites or FB. One underappreciated advantage to call center girls: They have their own income, so they don't get that clinginess that can come from desparation. Lots of opinions in there, to each his own.


Unless many of the girls live close by, six single, separate visits is really only feasible on Sunday. The weekday traffic is too fucked up. It makes for a hectic day. I think three is ideal. Plenty of hapenis without being rushed. And if a girl shows up late by an hour or so you still have 3 hours with her before she has to leave. I'm happy to have the night visitor stay over, but she knows she has to leave early in the morning because I have to go to "work".I absolutely require all girls do the heavy travelling to meet at my hotel or a restaurant on the same block. I'll never travel to meet a new girl unless I have other purposes in the area. I don't think anybody reading this from a civilized country can imagine the frustration and wasted time Metro Manila traffic can cause. Good advice about the work excuse. They can't argue. Some have tried, and I replied "If I don't work, will you support me?" Three daily is perfect for us regular, fit males. My fivesome was a once-in-a-lifetime event, unlike our Viking friend's 5 Pinays per day haha.


Potential no shows can be sussed out several hours before meeting by sending her a text reminding her and saying something like you're very excited to see her. Ask whether there's any food or drink she likes - makes her feel special, but it also compels a reply. Be specific. I cook at home most often, so I'll mention what dishes I could prepare for her. If you don't get a reply wait an hour and text again or call. Let her know if you don't hear back soon you'll believe she's not coming and you'll cancel. Put the burden on her to reply and confirm - don't spend your precious time constantly texting her for an answer. Also, requiring the girl text you when she leaves home / work an hour or so before the meeting time is a good idea; you'll know she's in transit. Avoid meeting girls from far away, like Laguna or Pampanga. Their travel time is always much longer than they suppose.Great advice on preventing no-shows. I'm lazier than you in preparation, but requiring them to update their exact position is important. Even newbies who won't have any idea where the position is will at least know the girl is really, truly, on the way, and can Google Map if bored. For the short-timer, I still recommend double booking with respectful compensation for a girl that gets bumped from the schedule. It's a different world for the long-timer.

MrWoolyBooly
03-04-16, 04:03
I will wager 50 pesos that this gent is a re-invented FoxesHunter. Who is in?Don't know that history, but this one has 5 posts all asking.

MrWoolyBooly
03-04-16, 04:08
I am hoping that not too many cheap perverts will read your post.Have no fear. Beautiful, sexy, willing, affectionate Filipinas will always outnumber the cheap perverts who actually buy tickets to go to the Philippines.

Cbea20
03-04-16, 10:32
Boulevard Mansion behind the LA Cafe on Roxas Blvd. Has small furnished kitchens.


Hi Hut,

I will be there working in Ermita 2 to 3 weeks each time. I would like to cook some of my own food. I am tired of the food court in Robinson Mall.

What would be a good 2-week rental with a kitchen in Malate or Ermita so I can grill some beef steaks and pork chops?

Where should I go to find good beef?

Thanks for your info.

Soapy Smith
03-04-16, 14:44
Hi Hut,

I will be there working in Ermita 2 to 3 weeks each time. What would be a good 2-week rental with a kitchen in Malate or Ermita so I can grill some beef steaks and pork chops?
Where should I go to find good beef? Thanks for your info.This would have gotten more replies in the Manila Hotels thread. Anyway, the Boulevard Mansion does have small kitchen facilities, as Cbea describes, but it is run-down. When I last stayed there, several years ago, the cookware that was provided was not very extensive. There are three things to recommend Boulevard Mansion: it's the closest and easiest hotel to get to from LA Cafe; it is right on the Roxas Blvd. Frontage street, so very easily reached by taxi from the airport; it's comparatively cheap.

I think a better choice would be some of the suites and condo units offered both on hotel sites like Agoda, and BnB sites. For example, on the Agoda site, there are at least three different condo or apartment businesses listed for the Birch Towers on Jorge Bocobo. This is literally a three minute walk from the Pedro Gil entrance to Robinson's Place Manila. The three names I found were JMM Apartment Suites, JMM Grand Suites, and Bayview Designer's Suites. I think somebody reviewed one of the JMM places on the hotels thread a few months ago.

None of these places, including Boulevard Mansion, have ovens, but they seem to have some type of cooking surface, a microwave, refrigerator, and cookware and utensils.

Regarding meat, try Robinson's Super Market in the mall. I have never liked the smell of meat departments in Philippines' stores, but I have also never gotten sick on their meat.

Hutsori
03-05-16, 06:04
Hi Hut,

I will be there working in Ermita 2 to 3 weeks each time. I would like to cook some of my own food. I am tired of the food court in Robinson Mall.

What would be a good 2-week rental with a kitchen in Malate or Ermita so I can grill some beef steaks and pork chops?

Where should I go to find good beef?

Thanks for your info.Best look at airbnb for a 2-week rental. Scrutinise the listings. A kitchen may just be one electric hot plate, and it's rare to find a gas hob & oven in the Philippines. Kitchens in studios are much too cramped with no counter space. Look for a 1BR unit of 35sqm or larger. 45-50sqm is quite comfortable.

Good imported beef can be found at Santis Deli, but no branch in Malate / Ermita; the closest one to you is in Yakal St in Makati, and this shop is close to the Cash & Carry grocery store. http://www.werdenberg.com/santis/locations.html. If you're inclined you can taxi to the area, do all your shopping at both, and be done with it. Santis's deli counter is outstanding for hams and sausages, too. Filipino raised beef isn't very good quality. The pork and chicken are fine. One exception is the locally raised wagyu beef at Makati's Kitayama Meat Shop, https://www.facebook.com/Kitayama-Meatshop-294059700713964/. This place isn't too far from Santis and Cash & Carry. In the large grocers you might find the Australian brand Meltique beef; the ribeyes are very tender. The imported beef will run p1500-p2000 per kilo. The wagyu is priced by its Japanese grade, and it's more dear.

Red Kilt
03-05-16, 09:54
Good imported beef can be found at Santis Deli, but no branch in Malate / Ermita; the closest one to you is in Yakal St in Makati, and this shop is close to the Cash & Carry grocery store. http://www.werdenberg.com/santis/locations.html. <SNIP> Filipino raised beef isn't very good quality. You might like to try Melbourne Prime; they have a shop in Valdez Street off Makati Ave. Very high quality beef.

Search "Melbourne Prime" on FB for a map or go to their website http://www.melbourneprime.biz/.

Soapy Smith
03-05-16, 18:00
Wow! Where to find good quality beef in Metro Manila: never saw this topic before on ISG. You guys really put my shopping habits to shame, but not sure I'll know where to index this information for future recall. Thanks for sharing.

LukeSkywalker
03-05-16, 18:52
Thanks to the bros for recommending the apartments and the beef.

Unless the place has a very hot grill or a charcoal BBQ, it may not be possible to grill the steaks properly. Besides going all the way to Makati to buy the steaks is too much work. So I may as well just stay at a hotel near the Robinson Mall and find suitable restaurants.

My dates already suggested a few buffets, usually in large hotels. Anybody knows any buffets offering all-you-can-eat steaks and lobster? My dates said there are a few in China Town that offer these deals. There are also a few in Malate and Pasay, SM MOA.

Thanks for you good info.

LukeSkywalker
03-05-16, 20:47
I don't know if the young Pinays take birth control seriously with all sorts of bareback sex.

There seem to be a lot of young girls raising bastard children in the Phil. I don't want to get these girls pregnant and saddled with bastard children, or having to pay any child support. Do they use morning-after pills? Are the pills readily available and low costs to the girls?

The worldwide average rate of abortion to known pregnancy is very high, about 40% for most countries. I don't want to take any chances in causing injuries or death to anyone, much less helpless babies.

What about vasectomy? Any bro has first-hand experiences? Would it reduce or eliminate sex drive in the males? Any reliable scientific studies re this subject?

Red Kilt
03-06-16, 02:15
What about vasectomy? Any bro has first-hand experiences? Would it reduce or eliminate sex drive in the males? Any reliable scientific studies re this subject?Use the search facility Luke.

I and several others have posted AT LENGTH about vasectomies (all from personal experience).

To answer your question: NO. How can it? Vasectomy is snipping a tube, not cutting off your testosterone supply. For me, it doubled my drive, because I had nothing to worry about regarding unwanted pregnancies.

Nice Guy 99
03-06-16, 09:01
I don't know if the young Pinays take birth control seriously with all sorts of bareback sex.

There seem to be a lot of young girls raising bastard children in the Phil. I don't want to get these girls pregnant and saddled with bastard children, or having to pay any child support. Do they use morning-after pills? Are the pills readily available and low costs to the girls?

The worldwide average rate of abortion to known pregnancy is very high, about 40% for most countries. I don't want to take any chances in causing injuries or death to anyone, much less helpless babies.

What about vasectomy? Any bro has first-hand experiences? Would it reduce or eliminate sex drive in the males? Any reliable scientific studies re this subject?Luke. Others will disagree with me. Do NOT have a vasectomy. I did and it significantly changed my pleasure from sex. The doctors will advise you differently but they are wrong.

Second point. Abortions are difficult to get in the PI. A girl can go to Singapore or HK and get a proper abortion. Few can afford. The most common practice is a chemical abortion. The drugs can be ordered on the Internet. It's a tough experience. I have a close friend who recently went through this.

All that said, many young Pinays want to get pregnant as a ticket out of their current circumstances. Faulty thinking in most cases.

Mr Enternational
03-06-16, 10:18
Luke. Others will disagree with me. Do NOT have a vasectomy. I did and it significantly changed my pleasure from sex. The doctors will advise you differently but they are wrong.I definitely disagree. I had one 2 years ago and the only way it has affected me is no child support from getting chicks pregnant. Other than that everything is just the same as before I had it. I can't even tell where the hole was where they punctured my nut sack.

On the other hand, I hear that if you let them operate on your prostate then you are fucked. Well actually you will never be fucked again. They say proton radiation is the way to go with that one.

Member #4387
03-06-16, 11:28
Luke. Others will disagree with me. Do NOT have a vasectomy. I did and it significantly changed my pleasure from sex. The doctors will advise you differently but they are wrong.

Second point. Abortions are difficult to get in the PI. A girl can go to Singapore or HK and get a proper abortion. Few can afford. The most common practice is a chemical abortion. The drugs can be ordered on the Internet. It's a tough experience. I have a close friend who recently went through this.

All that said, many young Pinays want to get pregnant as a ticket out of their current circumstances. Faulty thinking in most cases.I guess we all have different experience but I will say; DO HAVE a vasectomy. The procedure didn't have any affect on me and my libido whatsoever. Another thing which is highly subjective is chemical abortion which my GF had a few years back when we agreed we werent ready to be parents and to busy. She popped the pills and ex from some vomiting no bad experience. My GF wasnt to affected at all according herself and she was very irritated on the fact that girls more or less are expected to go through loads of emotions when having an abortion. She didn't! I guess it is a big different between a wanted abortion and an unwanted one.

Soapy Smith
03-06-16, 14:44
Luke. Others will disagree with me. Do NOT have a vasectomy. I did and it significantly changed my pleasure from sex. The doctors will advise you differently but they are wrong.I suspect the effects occur in the big head, not in the little head. My experience was closest to what RK describes. I got mine about six months after my third child was born. Sex became better because I totally stopped worrying about feeding more mouths, changing more diap--s, waiting for the wife's attention while kids were attended to first. There were maybe a couple weeks in which the doctor warned that there might still be some potent swimmers in my system, and then no more worries.

I am now 68 and I'm amazed at the strength of my libido. Clearly my body does not recover as quickly as when I was 25, but that's because of my aging body, not the vasectomy. The desire is there and so is the pleasure throughout the sexual experience. Based on my own experience the intense pleasure during ejaculation is from contractions in the prostate, seminal vesicles, and erectile tissue along the shaft of the penis; it has nothing to do with the vas deferens, which is the tube they cut. Perhaps Nice Guy's surgeon slipped with the scalpel, but more likely, it's his own thinking about it--what's going on in his (big) head--which for some reason turned the opposite direction than for the rest of us.

A vasectomy makes life easier for you and eliminates any worries about leaving a bunch of blue-eyed, poverty-stricken kids in the Philippines. BTW, vasectomy reversal surgery is possible, even in the Phils, but not cheap.

WestCoast1
03-06-16, 16:31
Luke. Others will disagree with me. Do NOT have a vasectomy. I did and it significantly changed my pleasure from sex. The doctors will advise you differently but they are wrong.My experience is just the opposite. Like RK and others, the vas did not diminish my pleasure. It just makes me more confident.

WestCoast1
03-06-16, 16:32
Hi,

Do you know if it is easy to find Viagra in Makati? Where can I find it precisely? Then. Does anybody has experience with generic Viagra that is generic Sildenafil?

Did anyone have experience with both, original Viagra and generic sildanifil? I'd like to know if they gave you the same power of action and the same side effects.All questions. No Field Reports.

LukeSkywalker
03-06-16, 17:02
Thanks to the bros for bringing out their own personal experiences.

The human body is a very complex system. It may be designed to be self-healing and forgiving, but anything done to it will cause consequences. One of my relatives had his vasectomy in his 60's. I have not heard of any complaints. A very sexy and young-looking female in her 60's had a tubal ligation. Suddenly she lost her youthful looks, became very easily irritated with lots of angers, quick tantrums and very hard to live with. It was hell for her husband. So it changed her physically and emotionally for the worse.

It's one of the most important decision in a guy's life, but definitely not as important and far-reaching a decision as for girls to get pregnant and have babies.

The vasectomy is advertised by various clinics in Tijuana, Mexico for about 5,000 pesos or less ($250). I have to research to find out how often these Mexican doctors screw up and made Mexicans into eunuchs. Hehehe.

Wicked Roger
03-06-16, 17:40
Hi,

Do you know if it is easy to find Viagra in Makati? Where can I find it precisely? Then. Does anybody has experience with generic Viagra that is generic Sildenafil?

Did anyone have experience with both, original Viagra and generic sildanifil? I'd like to know if they gave you the same power of action and the same side effects.Westie,

On the UAE board he is called a 'manager'.

Ad when we call them out the abuse we get ca be amusing. Plus we are called racist as many / most are from the Indian sub continent as can be seen from their posting history which, like BH, shows one of just asking and no giving.

RTFF BH as if you can't find the search function you likely can't fid the Philippines and any place selling what you are after.

Sammon
03-06-16, 17:42
Hi,

Do you know if it is easy to find Viagra in Makati? Where can I find it precisely? Then. Does anybody has experience with generic Viagra that is generic Sildenafil?

Did anyone have experience with both, original Viagra and generic sildanifil? I'd like to know if they gave you the same power of action and the same side effects.I did not buy any viagra or generic viagra in Philippines. I get plenty of generic viagra from India which is sold cheap in Cambodia and Thailand. They are very reliable.

But I did ask just for info. Mercury drug sells real viagra and it is expensive. I believe they said 600 pesos per pill. LA cafe sells generic ones. Do not know if it is fake or real. There are plenty of fake ones people try to sell to you. Not sure if Mercury drugs require prescription.

Wicked Roger
03-07-16, 16:41
Therefore I am forced to buy Viagra if generic pills can be fake. But does 600 pesosiagra cost 600 pesos for 100 MG?Why not Google "Mercury", did the # as plenty of outlets and call one and ask. Simple really save you the typing of question after question on the board?

BrainDrain
03-07-16, 23:24
I did not buy any viagra or generic viagra in Philippines. I get plenty of generic viagra from India which is sold cheap in Cambodia and Thailand. They are very reliable.

But I did ask just for info. Mercury drug sells real viagra and it is expensive. I believe they said 600 pesos per pill. LA cafe sells generic ones. Do not know if it is fake or real. There are plenty of fake ones people try to sell to you. Not sure if Mercury drugs require prescription.Just once I have tried the street version of Viagra sold as a copy of the original, ie in a fake Viagra box with blue diamond shaped pills. They did work for me, but I called them slow acting. They worked but just took a lot longer, so they had some Sildenafil, just not as much as I thought.

I bought some from Mercury on an early visit and they charge out at the full price.

I now buy generics from any Generics pharmacy.

I also bring my own from Australia. Now that it is on the PBS and subsidised, it's about P1000 for 16 x 100 MG.

Cheers.

Hutsori
03-08-16, 05:13
Therefore I am forced to buy Viagra if generic pills can be fake. But does 600 pesosiagra cost 600 pesos for 100 MG?Use your noggin, mate. Most if not all of the info you seek is here, http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3632-The-Viagra-Dialogue-Buying-medicine-for-your-cock.

Mr Enternational
03-14-16, 16:28
I usually exchange money, but using ATM this time. What is the max I can take out at one time? I was looking over some old receipts and saw there is a 200 peso charge. Not to worry about that though because I have Charles Schwab. I just like to be efficient and do not want to step up to the machine and have to pussyfoot around with it.

Cool
03-14-16, 17:12
I usually exchange money, but using ATM this time. What is the max I can take out at one time? I was looking over some old receipts and saw there is a 200 peso charge. Not to worry about that though because I have Charles Schwab. I just like to be efficient and do not want to step up to the machine and have to pussyfoot around with it.$10,000 pisos.

Red Kilt
03-15-16, 00:44
$10,000 pisos.Is that just a random figure that you plucked from your head Cool? It's not a very helpful response. You need to qualify it somewhat.

Different bank ATMs allow different amounts, and also there is a further restriction on "international accounts" for some banks.

Many PNB machines (especially those in the provinces) allow only 4000 php at a time but you can get 40,000 if you execute the w / drawal 10 times.

My HSBC account allows up to 2000 usd per day (almost 100,000 php) but again, different banks have limits on how much you can pull in any ONE transaction.

GoodEnough
03-15-16, 01:37
Is that just a random figure that you plucked from your head Cool? It's not a very helpful response. You need to qualify it somewhat.

Different bank ATMs allow different amounts, and also there is a further restriction on "international accounts" for some banks.

Many PNB machines (especially those in the provinces) allow only 4000 php at a time but you can get 40,000 if you execute the w / drawal 10 times.

My HSBC account allows up to 2000 usd per day (almost 100,000 php) but again, different banks have limits on how much you can pull in any ONE transaction.In Davao, I typically use HSBC which allows me to withdraw up to $1,000 at a time from my foreign account. BPI used to allow up to Php20,000 per single transaction on a foreign card, but has recently dropped that to Php10,0000 I believe that Citibank still allows single withdrawals of up to Php20,000. So, RK is, as usual correct: the allowable amount per transaction depends on the local ATM chosen and perhaps on the limit imposed by individual foreign banks in account holders.

GE.

Mr Enternational
03-15-16, 01:45
The first ATM I went to outside international arrivals at NAIA3 was PNB. I tried 20 k and it said my bank wouldn't allow it. I tried 10 k and it said the same thing. I went to the bank to the right and same thing. Then I went to Phil Trust Bank to the left of PNB and it let me take out 20 k. I didn't try for anything larger. Figure I will just get more in Cebu.

Mr Hawaii
03-15-16, 07:28
The first ATM I went to outside international arrivals at NAIA3 was PNB. I tried 20 k and it said my bank wouldn't allow it. I tried 10 k and it said the same thing. I went to the bank to the right and same thing. Then I went to Phil Trust Bank to the left of PNB and it let me take out 20 k. I didn't try for anything larger. Figure I will just get more in Cebu.When my transactions don't go through I always keep the receipt for proof that the transaction was not carried out, and to ensure I do not get charged for these transactions. If no paper receipt, take a picture with your phone.

Cbea20
03-17-16, 01:50
The home bank's computer might identify this as a sign that the card has been stolen, and deactivate the card. Happened to me once. Bank personnel described this as an error, but whatever.


Many PNB machines (especially those in the provinces) allow only 4000 php at a time but you can get 40,000 if you execute the w / drawal 10 times.

LukeSkywalker
03-17-16, 02:51
A bro PMed that vasectomy is done for free by Planned Parenthood. Thanks for the good tip. I wish he would post that info publicly.

I checked in PP's web site. It did say the cost is dependent on income. So low income folks probably can get it for free. PP just makes up for it by selling more babies' parts.

I haven't called the local PP, knowing a lot of innocent babies suffer horrific deaths there.


The vasectomy is advertised by various clinics in Tijuana, Mexico for about 5,000 pesos or less ($250). I have to research to find out how often these Mexican doctors screw up and made Mexicans into eunuchs. Hehehe.

Soapy Smith
03-17-16, 09:19
A bro PMed that vasectomy is done for free by Planned Parenthood. Thanks for the good tip. I wish he would post that info publicly.

I checked in PP's web site. It did say the cost is dependent on income. So low income folks probably can get it for free. PP just makes up for it by selling more babies' parts.

I haven't called the local PP, knowing a lot of innocent babies suffer horrific deaths there.From the sound of things this must put you in a serious moral dilemma. You want a free vasectomy--which, if they offer such a thing, is done because they actually provide more birth control services than abortion services--but you find part of their mission troubling. But you're lucky, because, as a man, you will never face the abortion decision dilemma. But you really should google for the real facts about what the investigation in Texas found about the videos claiming to show illegal behavior on PP's part regarding embryonic tissue. And, oh yeah, the findings in every state so far about whether they are illegally selling baby parts. You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, but not your own facts.

GoodEnough
03-17-16, 10:26
From the sound of things this must put you in a serious moral dilemma. You want a free vasectomy--which, if they offer such a thing, is done because they actually provide more birth control services than abortion services--but you find part of their mission troubling. But you're lucky, because, as a man, you will never face the abortion decision dilemma. But you really should google for the real facts about what the investigation in Texas found about the videos claiming to show illegal behavior on PP's part regarding embryonic tissue. And, oh yeah, the findings in every state so far about whether they are illegally selling baby parts. You are entitled to whatever opinion you want, but not your own facts.Every time I see a post such as the one to which you responded, I realize how Donald Trump and Ted Cruz became possible. Hope Canada is prepared for the influx of US refugees.

GE.

Mr Enternational
03-17-16, 12:33
PP just makes up for it by selling more babies' parts.

I haven't called the local PP, knowing a lot of innocent babies suffer horrific deaths there.Where did you get this stupid untrue information from?

Red Kilt
03-17-16, 12:51
The reason why more guys don't get vasectomized is not because of the cost (usually minimal) but because of the incredible amount of misunderstanding and sheer ignorance about what it is.

I have highly-educated western friends who have bizarre ideas about what is involved.

Mine was done 20 years ago and it involved an extremely minor surgical procedure that took only part of a morning to complete and I walked home afterwards.

It has no effect on testosterone production or hormonal systems. It is totally unrelated to any form of castration. It involves snipping the tubes (the vas deferens) that carry sperm from the testes into the seminal fluid.

The effect is that the seminal fluid (the cum; man juice, call-it-what-you-will) remains the same EXCEPT that it doesn't have any pesky little wrigglers it.

The snipping occurs in the loose skin around the top of the scrotum; it's painless, and the incisions (there are 2 vas deferens) are about 1 cm long on each side. When mine was done reversals were not part of any consideration and the doctor took a piece out of the tube and burned (cauterized) the ends. Nowadays I understand they "cap" the ends so that reversal is more straight forward if needed, but it carries a risk that the caps might come off and the tubes get re-connected blah blah (highly unlikely).

Most doctors will only do it after fairly heavy counselling that you are certain you want it, so you need to be adamant in your mind that you don't want any more kids (or any kids at all). It beggars the question why guys would get a vasectomy only if they were sure it could be reversed.

One possible side effect is that the volume of ejaculate might diminish slightly but it is barely measurable. There is folk lore around that it changes the taste but in a favorable way (that is, spermless cum tastes better), but this is highly subjective and I have not yet read reports about any authoritative controlled experiments to verify this fact.

I just wish some of the macho brigade who think it's going to reduce their libido would take some time to read and understand the physiology and see that any adverse effects are most likely in the head (aka the brain).

WestCoast1
03-17-16, 14:09
PP just makes up for it by selling more babies' parts.

I haven't called the local PP, knowing a lot of innocent babies suffer horrific deaths there.Theory: Watches Fox News (only), and believes that.

Alternate theory: he was making a joke of some kind.

Cool
03-17-16, 15:05
Is that just a random figure that you plucked from your head Cool? It's not a very helpful response. You need to qualify it somewhat.

Different bank ATMs allow different amounts, and also there is a further restriction on "international accounts" for some banks.

Many PNB machines (especially those in the provinces) allow only 4000 php at a time but you can get 40,000 if you execute the w / drawal 10 times.

My HSBC account allows up to 2000 usd per day (almost 100,000 php) but again, different banks have limits on how much you can pull in any ONE transaction.I only get 10 k around AC Mr. Argumentative.

BrainDrain
03-17-16, 15:16
The reason why more guys don't get vasectomized is not because of the cost (usually minimal) but because of the incredible amount of misunderstanding and sheer ignorance about what it is.
I have an interesting case about my 'friend':

He's in a committed long term relationship, let's say he's been married for 25 years. His wife had her tubes tied for family planning purposes maybe 10 years ago.

He's wondering how he broaches the subject of getting a vasectomy which is clearly not needed in his home life.

He has considered the option of the simplicity of the operation but he wonders about the scars. He could get it before going on a regular intra-state business trip.

Anyone got any experiences to share on this topic?

BD.

Mr Enternational
03-17-16, 16:56
He's in a committed long term relationship, let's say he's been married for 25 years. His wife had her tubes tied for family planning purposes maybe 10 years ago.

He's wondering how he broaches the subject of getting a vasectomy which is clearly not needed in his home life.He doesn't, unless he is planning to get a divorce. You will not be able to fuck until days after. I got mine on January 9 and was off to Brazil fucking a chick on January 15. Better not cum in them though. You have to go back 90 days later for a count to make sure all the swimmers are gone.

EihTooms
03-17-16, 19:02
I have an interesting case about my 'friend':

He's in a committed long term relationship, let's say he's been married for 25 years. His wife had her tubes tied for family planning purposes maybe 10 years ago.

He's wondering how he broaches the subject of getting a vasectomy which is clearly not needed in his home life.

He has considered the option of the simplicity of the operation but he wonders about the scars. He could get it before going on a regular intra-state business trip.

Anyone got any experiences to share on this topic?

BD.Whatever scars are left would probably be so minimal no one would notice unless she was lifting his scrotum sac and looking for it with a flashlight and magnifying glass. When I had mine done decades ago, the doctor made two tiny punctures, not cuts, on the underside of each testicle to get to the tubes he was planning to cut. I believe many doctors today will make only one puncture in the middle and simply pull the tubes from the left and right through that same puncture hole to cut them. These kinds of puncture wounds heal up very fast in that part of the body.

Technically, your friend wouldn't have to broach the subject at all with anyone else and he could just get it done without her knowledge. Legally, I have no idea what the consequences are if she ever found out. But there are probably some, not because his getting it done secretly denied her the opportunity to have a child (she had her tubes tied already), but because it pretty much shouts he was planning to fuck other women without worry of getting them pregnant.

After 25 years, I am sure there would be a slug of several days if not several weeks where he is pretty certain no sex will be on the menu until he heals. LOL. And after all that time, 25 years, I would be shocked if she was still so busy giving him blowjobs that there was a chance in hell she'd see that puncture wound before it fully healed and essentially disappeared, maybe after a month maximum.

Getting a vasectomy was one of the smartest decisions I ever made in my life. BTW, I got mine when I was married, my wife at the time was aware that I was going to get one and fully supported the idea, but I don't think the doctor who performed the procedure even asked about what my wife thought about it, that I would need her to sign off on my getting it done or anything like that. Maybe that is required some places these days. This was in California in the late 1980's.

BrainDrain
03-17-16, 23:12
He doesn't, unless he is planning to get a divorce. You will not be able to fuck until days after. I got mine on January 9 and was off to Brazil fucking a chick on January 15. Better not cum in them though. You have to go back 90 days later for a count to make sure all the swimmers are gone.Thanks for the posts Mr Enternational & Mr EihTooms. I'll pass it onto my friend.

In a way, I think he sees it as a good reason to use a condom.

Soapy Smith
03-18-16, 05:18
Anyone got any experiences to share on this topic? BD.I got mine done 35 years ago. At the time I had to obtain a signed statement from my spouse that she did not object to my having the procedure. I don't know whether those policies still exist nor whether they exist universally.

Tojo 5445
03-26-16, 04:50
I get horrible reflux if I go a day w / o Prilosec and figure I'll be hungover and will need something for a headache. Does anyone encounter problems in immigration if entering NAIA w / a bunch of OTC pills? Do drug stores there sell Prilosec? Or will I be fine bringing a few week supply?

Dg8787
03-26-16, 05:44
I get horrible reflux if I go a day w / o Prilosec and figure I'll be hungover and will need something for a headache. Does anyone encounter problems in immigration if entering NAIA w / a bunch of OTC pills? Do drug stores there sell Prilosec? Or will I be fine bringing a few week supply?Never had a problem bringing in otc or prescription meds. Never had anyone look either. Best to bring it in original containers and in your carry on bag. Bring enough for your entire stay. Even if Phil pharmacy stocks it they may be out of stock.

Bacebua
03-26-16, 17:07
I remember reading news / scam reports where the girl would accuse one of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and go to police, and from there one would directly be deported to jail before questioning.

"Friend of mine" had this one girl in his hotel from a girlie bar that started bleeding during sex. So of course he stopped right away. Whether it was menstruation blood is not known however she said he [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, while laughing about it.

He became panicky having have heard about scam stories in that regard and let her go home with a tip and taxi money and in the same day flew out of the country to finish his holiday somewhere nearby.

Should he be worried coming back into the country?