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[Dg8787]

Ball less,

Your friend should stop in BKK first and get a testicle transplant before coming back. Don't worry, on any given day most major BKK hospitals have a surplus of freshly harvested testicles.

Dg8787.

[Soapy Smith]

I get horrible reflux if I go a day w / o Prilosec and figure I'll be hungover and will need something for a headache. Does anyone encounter problems in immigration if entering NAIA w / a bunch of OTC pills? Do drug stores there sell Prilosec? Or will I be fine bringing a few week supply?My experience is the same as DG. I find that Philippine immigration and customs are much more cursory than Western countries. As long as you are not on any "do not fly" list or have a fugitive record in the Philippines, they are eager to wave you through and get your money infused in their economy.

If you must go to a Philippine pharmacy, go with a piece of paper printed clearly as to dosage and number of capsules you want. Most medications, even those that we consider over-the-counter in the West, are dispensed from behind the pharmacy counter. They may or may not have Prilosec, so show them the generic name, Omeprazole. Often these are cheaper than name brand. As to pharmacy name, I prefer Generic Drugs or Star Drugs, but Mercury, Watsons, and various others are okay. Others here may have these in a different order.

[Member #4422]

Hello all!

I want to come to the Phils: please tell me what is the average price for one night with a girl?

I like young and skinny girls, I am tall and nice guy, 36 years old, so not a bad customer for girls!

I want to live in Phils, do you thinks 25 000 pesos by month is enough to have a apartment and a girl 24/24?

Thanks for your help!

I have to decide, Ukraine or Phils, I search after the cheapest girls.

[WestCoast1]

I want to live in Phils, do you thinks 25 000 pesos by month is enough to have a apartment and a girl 24/24?

Thanks for your help!

I have to decide, Ukraine or Phils, I search after the cheapest girls.Ukraine is the better place. Right, gents?

(Alternately, you could RTTF; and feel free to hit me in PM with specific questions).

[Sharka]

Hello all!

I want to come to the Phils: please tell me what is the average price for one night with a girl?

I like young and skinny girls, I am tall and nice guy, 36 years old, so not a bad customer for girls!

I want to live in Phils, do you thinks 25 000 pesos by month is enough to have a apartment and a girl 24/24?

Thanks for your help!

I have to decide, Ukraine or Phils, I search after the cheapest girls.Given the choice of PI or Ukraine. I would go with PI as Ukraine is still in conflict with Russia and that could escalate again into a much bigger issue and spread to larger areas. Best to avoid until that settles back to Normal.

Unless you score freebies in PI, 25000 p a month for everyday living and having a girl 24/7 everyday is not likely if you had to also pay for the chicks.

[Wicked Roger]

Hello all!

I want to come to the Phils: I have to decide, Ukraine or Phils, I search after the cheapest girls.Ukraine is better as cheaper, the war has made things so cheap there is deflation I am told by reliable sources.

Another reliable source aka Westie had said same also RTFF.

Choca Monger. Another manager has appeared LOL.

[Member #4422]

WestCoast1,

I try to send you a private mail but I don't know what RTTF want to say and how do.

Many thanks for yours answers guys.

So 25 000 pesos (500 dollars) is not enough to live and fck every day the same girl in Phils? I talk with girls on dateinasia and they say it's enough, but perhaps it's a scam.

I am not afraid about the situation in Ukraine, I have 500 dollars by month, perhaps it's enough to live in UA and fuck every day them same girl?

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[Sxxxx]

Ukraine is the better place. Right, gents?

(Alternately, you could RTTF; and feel free to hit me in PM with specific questions).Right, Ukraine is the place right now. Cheapest pussy around. Philippines has too many scams / dangers, especially for those who want to fuck cheap or free.

Ukraine it is!

[Red Kilt]

I want to live in Phils, do you thinks 25 000 pesos by month is enough to have a apartment and a girl 24/24?
It is extremely foolish to be contemplating actually living in a country that you have not yet visited.

Remember the classic question - "How long is a piece of string?

Apart from your very naive question (Ukraine or Philippines), there are infinitely more variables to consider rather than "cheapest girls" and we all have different priorities regarding living arrangements.

I suggest that you allocate 1 month to be spent in each place using your monthly $500.

You will quickly learn the answers to your questions.

[WestCoast1]

WestCoast1,

I try to send you a private mail but I don't know what RTTF want to say and how do.RTTF = Read Through The Forum (on your own, there are plenty of answers there for you to seek out). You cannot PM me because you have not yet purchased a subscription to the forum ($20).


So 25 000 pesos (500 dollars) is not enough to live and fck every day the same girl in Phils? I talk with girls on dateinasia and they say it's enough, but perhaps it's a scam.Its not enough. $500/ month is not enough to live on (rent + food), and certainly you can't afford girls also.


I am not afraid about the situation in Ukraine, I have 500 dollars by month, perhaps it's enough to live in UA and fuck every day them same girl?It costs even more to live in Ukraine.

[Dg8787]

Maybe you can live in Phil and fuck every other day for $500 a month. Of course the exchange rate is better now. I doubt if you would really listen to the seniors here as they may be trying to keep paradise to themselves.

Seems like to me you are the kind of person that has to find out for himself. I say go ahead and get a ticket and come to paradise with $500 and do it. The Filipinas say you can have a great life for that. Why not and do it!

[Sharka]

WestCoast1,

I try to send you a private mail but I don't know what RTTF want to say and how do.

Many thanks for yours answers guys.

So 25 000 pesos (500 dollars) is not enough to live and fck every day the same girl in Phils? I talk with girls on dateinasia and they say it's enough, but perhaps it's a scam.

I am not afraid about the situation in Ukraine, I have 500 dollars by month, perhaps it's enough to live in UA and fuck every day them same girl?

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JacksonLike I said before.

25000 p or about $535 US is enough to live on in PI, but don't expect the same lifestyle and everything you have or are accustomed to at home, like having a car to drive etc.

From what you said, if you are ONLY sticking with ONE girl then maybe possible as she will be more or less kinda stays with you and you pay her the bare minimum and nothing more and also stays for free once a while on her own.

But again, don't expect a luxury lifestyle with only 25000 p with a girl in tow as I could easily burn through 25000 a month just on the girls alone.

If you feel ok with the situation in Ukraine than give it a shot and see if it fits your lifestyle. Personally, I avoid places that are in conflicts as I value my own safety above all else. The world is going to shit with all the terrorism without having to go and look for more trouble in conflict zones. The only bloodshed I'll tolerate is having the girls tell me they are having their period and not the kind where a plane could drop a bomb or an artillery shell on my head at anytime. But that's just me.

[CallSign Papa]

Ukraine is better as cheaper, the war has made things so cheap there is deflation I am told by reliable sources. Without diving too far into a topic unrelated to Phil, the UAH is now 25 to the US Dollar, whereas it's pre-conflict rate was 8 UAH to the dollar. This makes food and drink incredibly cheap, and to some degree the girls too. But most girls are savvy and negotiate in Dollars negating the deflationary gain.

As always, YMMV.


Personally, I avoid places that are in conflicts as I value my own safety above all else.

I'd have to imagine when he says living in Ukraine our newbie friend is talking about Kiev Sharka (because no sane person would want to go to Donetsk or Kharkiv right now). Kiev is totally fine, utterly untouched by the conflict since they cleared the Maidan debris 2 years ago. I've been there 4/5 times since and you honestly wouldn't even know the Russky wolves are at the gate.

[Member #4422]

Thanks for your answers guys.

In Phils I don't want a luxury life. I just want a bed for night, eat 3 times by days, and fuck 12/24 - 7/7. Nothing else. Not car, not beach, not paradise place.

I don't want to stay in town and expensive price, I prefer found a cool girl in the "campaign" , " countryside" , excuse my poor English language.

Perhaps Valenzuela is a good place for me? I can live in a shnaty town, no problems, if I am sure to fuck like I want!

The same thing for Ukraine, I think about Kherson district not Kiev, to expensive.

[Sxxxx]

....................Perhaps Valenzuela is a good place for me? I can live in a shnaty town, no problems, if I am sure to fuck like I want!..You need security / safety when shagging in foreign countries. The local boys might burst through the door in the middle of a shanty town shag and sort things out. Think you have very little experience, traveling around whoring. Trying to get the cheapest of the cheap all the time, has its problems and dangers. Make sure the girl leaves your room happy, otherwise.

[CallSign Papa]

Thanks for your answers guys.

In Phils I don't want a luxury life. I just want a bed for night, eat 3 times by days, and fuck 12/24 - 7/7. Nothing else. Not car, not beach, not paradise place.

I don't want to stay in town and expensive price, I prefer found a cool girl in the "campaign" , " countryside" , excuse my poor English language.

Perhaps Valenzuela is a good place for me? I can live in a shnaty town, no problems, if I am sure to fuck like I want!

The same thing for Ukraine, I think about Kherson district not Kiev, to expensive.I'm by no means an expert, but if that's your plan, maybe somewhere up the coast like Subic Bay is a better option.

As for Kherson, I'd rather live in a tramps armpit.

[Member #4422]

Subic Bay is cheap? I also ear at Samar district it can be cheap and cool for me.

For Kherson, as I ear there is nice girls and cheap. That's all I want, nice and skinny.

I also see at Bangladesh it's cheap, and can found girls like I like but. I prefer white or yellow skin, and small pink pussy, not big gray or brown-black pussy. Buuuu ugly. So I am a little afraid Banglady girls, like Phils girls, have big pussy, not like Euro girls.

[Member #4422]

I am on dateinasia. I am good looking, I say to girls I win 500 dollars by month, and 50% of her they say it's enough to live with her.

I explain her I just need to eat and give love and sleep in a bed.

Is it a scam? I think many Filipino peoples live with less as 500 dollars by month.

[LifeIsABeach]

Perhaps Valenzuela is a good place for me? I can live in a shnaty town, no problems, if I am sure to fuck like I want! Do you even know where Venezuela is? Do you know the political situation there? Just a few days a go, a Egyptian exiting one airport building to go to another to catch his connecting flight got robbed just outside the building and got shot. Dead. Streets of Caracus are quiet in the expensive areas after dark and dare to do anything at night. Don't even dare go to the ghetto areas as you will be bait and highly likely may not come out alive. If you cannot afford a bullet proof taxi, you may get killed for your cellphone. You may not last even a single day in the poor shanty areas. You would be a feast for the dogs. You want cheap pussy in Latin America? Paraguay. It is land locked country and very laid back. Ascion is the caital and it is a laid back city in a laid back country. There is nothing to see and nothing to do. But there is cheap charming pussy. People are very helpful, pleasant and drink beer all day long! There is something about this country that I like. There is no bullshit. Pretty jovial girls, great food, cheap place to live, no issues and problems. I might even consider it as a retirement place. Easy to get to Brazil, Argentina, Colombia, Uruguay etc. Happy hunting. Do read my field reports on Paraguay back in 2014.

[Soapy Smith]

Do you even know where Venezuela is? Do you know the political situation there?Life, he wrote "Valenzuela," not "Venezuela." He presumably got the name Valenzuela from some chat session with a woman who lives there. Valenzuela is a city just north of Malabon within Metro Manila. Like other cities on the north side of the metro area, it has plenty of poor shanty people. Imelda Marcos saw to that. As Manila was getting ready to host some Pan-Asian games, she had them moved out of the near-in Manila areas, bulldozed down the areas that visitors might see, and resettled them into slums in Northern Caloocan, Valenzuela, Malabon, and Navotas.


Subic Bay is cheap? I also ear at Samar district it can be cheap and cool for me.
I also see at Bangladesh it's cheap, and can found girls like I like but. I prefer white or yellow skin, and small pink pussy, not big gray or brown-black pussy. Buuuu ugly. So I am a little afraid Banglady girls, like Phils girls, have big pussy, not like Euro girls.Samar? It's one thing to meet girls from Samar in Angeles City bars, but, if you plan to live there, you might want to read up on the New People's Army. They are active on Samar Island, and they don't like outside visitors in areas where they operate. If word gets out you're living on $500 a month, they may ignore you, or, if they think your relatives or your country has money, they are not above taking hostages.

Regarding the color of Filipina pussies, you should check out the Photo Gallery. Westcoast coined the term "Chocolate Rose Petals" to describe Filipinas' inner labia. It is an apt description. I find sort of a correlation between the color of their facial lips, their nipples, and their labia, and I find them all exotically beautiful. But you clearly wouldn't care for them. I'm pretty sure Ukrainian pussies would be much pinker and more to your liking, and CSP and others have painted a rosy picture of exchange rates and other favorable features of life in Ukraine. This shouldn't be a difficult decision.

[Dg8787]

I am on dateinasia. I am good looking, I say to girls I win 500 dollars by month, and 50% of her they say it's enough to live with her.

I explain her I just need to eat and give love and sleep in a bed.

Is it a scam? I think many Filipino peoples live with less as 500 dollars by month.Glad you clarified things a little better. With good looks you might not need to use $500.99% of Filipinos make less than 7-8 k a month. Of course they pool their family money together to live on 15 k a month.

No need to worry about a scam. Stick to the 50% that says it is plenty to live with them.

[Soapy Smith]

Do you even know where Venezuela is? Do you know the political situation there? Just a few days a go, a Egyptian exiting one airport building to go to another to catch his connecting flight got robbed just outside the building and got shot. Dead. Okay, so maybe I misread your intention. Very informative.

[Member #4422]

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[Mr Enternational]

I prefer white or yellow skin, and small pink pussy, not big gray or brown-black pussy. Buuuu ugly. So I am a little afraid Banglady girls, like Phils girls, have big pussy, not like Euro girls.Your dick does not know the difference between the color of the pussy. And how many things do we "prefer" because that is what we see in porno movies or nudie magazines? I would like to see the difference in guys' preferences had those things never existed.

[Mr Enternational]

Do you even know where Venezuela is? Do you know the political situation there? I think he was refering to Valenzuela, Philippines and not Venezuela the South American country.

[CallSign Papa]

CSP and others have painted a rosy picture of exchange rates and other favorable features of life in Ukraine. This shouldn't be a difficult decision.Ukrainian girls are allergic to broke guys.

I actually think this guy is just pulling our collective leg. Who wants to live in a shanty hut just to get access to LBFMs? I like asian girls as much as the next guy (on this thread), but I wouldn't live in a hovel just to get access to them.

[WestCoast1]

SNIP But you clearly wouldn't care for them. I'm pretty sure Ukrainian pussies would be much pinker and more to your liking, and CSP and others have painted a rosy picture of exchange rates and other favorable features of life in Ukraine. This shouldn't be a difficult decision.We (myself included) are wasting a lot of time / energy dealing with Benjamin (whose posts are being flagged by Jackson). Problema: Poor Ben has no PM function, as he is not yet a paid member. I will try better to ignore such.

[CallSign Papa]

We (myself included) are wasting a lot of time / energy dealing with Benjamin (whose posts are being flagged by Jackson). Problema: Poor Ben has no PM function, as he is not yet a paid member. I will try better to ignore such.I think you're probably right, my ignore list just gained a new member.

[Soapy Smith]

Somebody told me recently of a new Philippine policy that limits the amount of cash transfers (Western Union, Moneygram, etc.) that individual Filipinos can receive within specific time blocks-- per week, per month, etc. Anybody else heard this or know the details?

This will affect those who support women in the Phils, but may also cut into scams in which the lady has multiple senders.

[Mr Enternational]

Somebody told me recently of a new Philippine policy that limits the amount of cash transfers (Western Union, Moneygram, etc.) that individual Filipinos can receive within specific time blocks-- per week, per month, etc. Anybody else heard this or know the details?Makes no sense at all. Maybe this person was pulling an early April Fool's. What are all of the OFWs supposed to do with their money now? Just save up the cash until they go back home?

[Soapy Smith]

We (myself included) are wasting a lot of time / energy dealing with Benjamin Or, as respite from some mindless mudslinging in a couple of the threads, some of us are looking for a little levity.

[Soapy Smith]

Makes no sense at all. (snip) What are all of the OFWs supposed to do with their money now? Just save up the cash until they go back home?I agree it doesn't make sense for a country that depends on OFWs' remissions. But public policies often only make sense to those who were powerful enough to have imposed their desired goals on the political system. The person who told me this was speaking from an "official" position. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an April Fool's joke.

[Member #4387]

We (myself included) are wasting a lot of time / energy dealing with Benjamin (whose posts are being flagged by Jackson). Problema: Poor Ben has no PM function, as he is not yet a paid member. I will try better to ignore such.Remember poor Ben would only have US480 (or 2 nights in a shoebox room at Fairmont) left the month he eventually pay. To him, the troll I believe he is, it would mean a lot.

[Sxxxx]

We (myself included) are wasting a lot of time / energy dealing with Benjamin. Problema: Poor Ben has no PM function, as he is not yet a paid member. He has the money for air fare, restaurants, hotels etc yet no $20 for PM facility and juicy 'insider' info. Hope other 'Managers' reading this, get the message. Bye bye Benjamino.

[GoodEnough]

I agree it doesn't make sense for a country that depends on OFWs' remissions. But public policies often only make sense to those who were powerful enough to have imposed their desired goals on the political system. The person who told me this was speaking from an "official" position. I'm pretty sure it wasn't an April Fool's joke.This is a Potemkin country. Rules are always made to benefit someone somewhere in the political / beueaucratic hierarchy. They have nothing to do with actual logic or normalcy.

GE.

[Fastpiston]

This is a Potemkin country. Rules are always made to benefit someone somewhere in the political / beueaucratic hierarchy. They have nothing to do with actual logic or normalcy.

GE.Exactly. The country is owned by a very small number of very rich Spanish and Chinese family clans and they will ensure laws and current monopolies remain in their control. Any new laws are always focused in protecting those monopolies. I know nothing of the new law referred to, but to me it smells of trying to force remittances into the banks so that greater commissions, foreign exchange and float can be made by banks which are virtually all owned by the rich family clans.

[Cool]

I suspect most foreign mongers earn more than 48 k pisos a month. The only way 25 k works would be a smooth good looking guy getting a high earning Dollhouse group hottie to take care of him. The downside is she will be sucking x amount of Korean dicks a week. True cheap charlies don't make it to the shores of PI because airfare and hotel alone frightens them. A truly universal good looking guy can exploit an Asian female in his home country. I would not sacrifice or inconvenience my living standards for less than an 8. Your Filipino would have to house and feed you. Most mongers could kill your budget in 2 weekends of barhopping.

[Soapy Smith]

Exactly. The country is owned by a very small number of very rich Spanish and Chinese family clans and they will ensure laws and current monopolies remain in their control. Any new laws are always focused in protecting those monopolies. I know nothing of the new law referred to, but to me it smells of trying to force remittances into the banks so that greater commissions, foreign exchange and float can be made by banks which are virtually all owned by the rich family clans.An alternative explanation is that this is an intervention created by the American government in its efforts to detect various forms of money laundering and money being sent to possible bad guys. I will not expand on this idea out of concern for not drawing undue attention to ISG.

[Red Kilt]

An alternative explanation is that this is an intervention created to detect various forms of money laundering and money being sent to possible bad guys. You may well be correct SS.

It's not a Philippines-specific rule.

A similar restriction is now in force in Lao PDR. It may well be more widespread but I don't know.

[GoodEnough]

An alternative explanation is that this is an intervention created by the American government in its efforts to detect various forms of money laundering and money being sent to possible bad guys. I will not expand on this idea out of concern for not drawing undue attention to ISG.Soapy's point may well be correct in light of the latest money laundering scandal during which $81 million mysteriously disappeared into the pockets of whomever in the Philippines. The USG may have finally become seriously pissed off and figured it was time to shut the barn door.

GE.

[LifeIsABeach]

Your dick does not know the difference between the color of the pussy. And how many things do we "prefer" because that is what we see in porno movies or nudie magazines? I would like to see the difference in guys' preferences had those things never existed.Color is the spice of life. I enjoy women of all different cultures, different skin tones, more the merrier. I am one of them who gets bored with the same thing and hence divorced early in my life to enjoy the variety that is world over. Not sure I'llbe able to do all the various countries but will keep pumping away!

[LifeIsABeach]

Exactly. The country is owned by a very small number of very rich Spanish and Chinese family clans and they will ensure laws and current monopolies remain in their control. Any new laws are always focused in protecting those monopolies. I know nothing of the new law referred to, but to me it smells of trying to force remittances into the banks so that greater commissions, foreign exchange and float can be made by banks which are virtually all owned by the rich family clans.First, yes, the country is owned by 5 rich families and their endless children. I was with one of these families on my last trip and got to see how the 1% live. Laws are made to the benefit of the powerful and the rich. The poor get promises at elections and about 200 pesos to vote for the powerful. The elected make up for the money spent on masses during election by their cuts on projects that are awarded, that could be millions of USD dollars. Next, Money Laundering laws were made for most of the public. The politicians made sure that the Casinos were NOT regulated. How convenient. The 81 million went to 3 casinos in Philippines. As it appears, the security cameras were not working at the Bank in Manila on the day the transfers were made to the casinos. Again, how convenient. The Bank Manager will get a big slice of the money and a pat on her back for setting up the accounts and ensuring that the securing cameras were turned off. Maybe employee of the year award for her!

[Sharka]

Ukrainian girls are allergic to broke guys.
. haha, This trait is universal among the female gender regardless of country. They are born with this genetic trait, but it's infinitely worst in a wife.

Cheers.

[Sharka]

. Kiev is totally fine, utterly untouched by the conflict since they cleared the Maidan debris 2 years ago. I've been there 4/5 times since and you honestly wouldn't even know the Russky wolves are at the gate.Yeah, I do agree with that but it's just the fact they are at the gate that worries me if further hostility broke out. But again, that's just me.

Cheers.

[CallSign Papa]

Yeah, I do agree with that but it's just the fact they are at the gate that worries me if further hostility broke out. But again, that's just me.

Cheers.Don't worry, Trump will save us all Sharka.

[Member #4387]

Don't worry, Trump will save us all Sharka.Well well I do follow mr Trump's campaign with a certain touch of humor. He adds entertainment to the normaly boring pre election swada. If an entertainer is what US needs as president is a different matter. The man got some balls and a rather large ego (and far to much moneys). As he obviously attracks people who normaly wouldn't vote this can be more exciting than many people think. Time will show.

[Sam 14]

Someone was asking about sending small amounts of money without taking a bath on the fees. Bitcoin would be a cheap way. They could pick it up at Palawan, LBC, bank, or whatever. And if you had another bitcoin account in your country, you could transfer larger sums to your PH wallet without a taking big hit on ATM and transfer fees. You can even send 30 peso or more load to any CP number. https://coins.ph/app/cash-out.

[Mbsl65]

IN USA, you can open a Global Filipino account in a PNB account. Very little fees up to $2100 per month you can put.


Someone was asking about sending small amounts of money without taking a bath on the fees. Bitcoin would be a cheap way. They could pick it up at Palawan, LBC, bank, or whatever. And if you had another bitcoin account in your country, you could transfer larger sums to your PH wallet without a taking big hit on ATM and transfer fees. You can even send 30 peso or more load to any CP number. https://coins.ph/app/cash-out.

[Bacebua]

I remember reading scam reports where the girl would accuse one of [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) and go to police, and from there one would directly be deported to jail before questioning.

"Friend of mine" had this one girl in his hotel from a girlie bar that started bleeding during sex. So of course he stopped right away. Whether it was menstruation blood is not known however she said he [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) her, while laughing about it.

He became panicky having have heard about scam stories in that regard and let her go home with a tip and taxi money and in the same day flew out of the country to finish his holiday somewhere nearby.

Should he be worried coming back into the country?

[Dg8787]

You have a good memory or you are OCD. You have posted this twice after your first post for a total of 3 posts.

Anyone who can really answer this question has been deported to the mens station located in Bola Bola City awaiting monthly trials.

[Bacebua]

You have a good memory or you are OCD. You have posted this twice after your first post for a total of 3 posts.Sorry about that, just was really concerned about this question and hoped to get an answer. Promise this is the last time.

[Cab Driver]

Guys,

Have you been meeting girls that give you there Facebook, I find it useful as you can stay in touch using messenger but also you can get an understanding of the girls. Have you guys had good experience of using Facebook.

[AussieGaigin]

I have very strange experiences to talk on Facebook and in amny other dating sites. I'm an old man and I'm thinking the Philippines are a strange country because I am not able to get a friend, all the girls want to marry me.

Even the most beautiful and young girls want to marry me in Manila and for this reason I cannot get friends."old man" = "money".

[BeachBoy46]

"old man" = "money".Yes. I think the correct mathematical equation goes:- old man * thickness of wallet * '0's" in bank account / low libido = PERFECT HUSBAND. Marry me honey.

[CallSign Papa]

Guys,

Have you been meeting girls that give you there Facebook. Have you guys had good experience of using Facebook.First and foremost I use Facebook as a verification tool. It's very easy to tell the fakes and scammers by what photos have been uploaded and the basic makeup of their timeline. As someone has already pointed out, if she doesn't have other family members as friends and just had lots of guys, chances are something's fishy.

[WestCoast1]

First and foremost I use Facebook as a verification tool. It's very easy to tell the fakes and scammers by what photos have been uploaded and the basic makeup of their timeline. As someone has already pointed out, if she doesn't have other family members as friends and just had lots of guys, chances are something's fishy.Many pinay keep more than one FB account. One is a personal account for the girl and her closest friends (includes her BF). The other one is a more public "normal" account, designed to show to everyone else (ie, you and other foreigners / strangers). There might even be a 3rd or 4th FB account for the same girl.

As an example: Assume her name is Maria Legaspi (I made that name up just now). The FB account for this girl is searchable in FB as Maria Legaspi. That's the one you are communicating with her, and all will appear that she wants you to see: pics of her, some of her school chums or friends, or family. She might have a second FB account that is very different; try searching for her name spelled backwards (airam ipsagel). On this second account you will probably see a more racy side to the same innocent college gal (including pics of her with her gwapo pinoy BF). Huts put me onto this a while ago (thanks! And I've found several young 'normal' / 'good' girls who have an absolutely wild side.

[Mua Tur]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?863-Ghana

Please read the report #3738.

That's report happened in Ghana, certainly never read this kind of situation in Philippine forum. Any body have this kind of experience or scam in Philippine? If any please give us light on this.

[X Man]

Search on youtube for "Old Filipino Doctor Brutally Knockout a Young American Kick Boxer".

[Hutsori]

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?863-Ghana

Please read the report #3738.

That's report happened in Ghana, certainly never read this kind of situation in Philippine forum. Any body have this kind of experience or scam in Philippine? If any please give us light on this.Not to me. It has been mentioned before here, but I don't recall whether it was firsthand experience. I have been very fortunate *knock wood*. My worst experience was an "up to you" girl; I prefer to discuss price and activities before leaving the bar. Deed is done and I gave her p3000. She then demanded p5000. We haggled back and forth but it was an impasse. I pretended to call front desk security. She called someone on her mobile and said, "I have the evidence." Her trump card was stronger than mine. I paid her p5000 and sent her on her way. Certainly not a financially painful scam, but lesson well learnt.

[Mbsl65]

I try to post valuable information or make comments to contribute positively to help fellow members to travel in an ease. However, being a paid member of this board, I do get private mails and many of them are creepy.

For Example:

#1 I posted a FR regarding my Davao City experience. An a creep ask me to provide my dates phone # so he could f* her. (I blocked him).

#2 I posted an experience regarding Manila Bay Cafe and a creep writing to provide phone numbers of my contacts in Pacific Northwest Area (I blocked him).

#3 I posted information regarding a DIA contact, a creep asked me to provide her information (I blocked him).

Now examples are more than the ones I post.


Why don't you do your own leg work to have fun?

[Wicked Roger]

I try to post valuable information or make comments to contribute positively to help fellow members to travel in an ease. However, being a paid member of this board, I do get private mails and many of them are creepy.

For Example:

#1 I posted a FR regarding my Davao City experience. An a creep ask me to provide my dates phone # so he could f* her. (I blocked him).

#2 I posted an experience regarding Manila Bay Cafe and a creep writing to provide phone numbers of my contacts in Pacific Northwest Area (I blocked him).

#3 I posted information regarding a DIA contact, a creep asked me to provide her information (I blocked him).

Now examples are more than the ones I post.

What makes you think that I would furnish information you don't need to know?

Why don't you do your own leg work to have fun?Welcome to the 'manager' class (as these trolls / lurkers etc are called on the UAE board). Plenty of them around, some can cause lots of problems for some of us, ruin a good relationship by showing the lady the board and posts / photos etc.

I (and others) get many of these PMs some from zero posters and mainly from those with no contributions. I got one recently and the troll PMed about 10 seniors who I know in the UAE asking for contacts and advice (he has 3 FRs all asking questions).

I ignore them mainly but he UAE board now has a separate thread for this behavior where we out a few of the really stupid PMs etc.

Maybe we should do it here?

[FreebieFan]

I try to post valuable information or make comments to contribute positively to help fellow members to travel in an ease. However, being a paid member of this board, I do get private mails and many of them are creepy.

For Example:

#1 I posted a FR regarding my Davao City experience. An a creep ask me to provide my dates phone # so he could f* her. (I blocked him).

#2 I posted an experience regarding Manila Bay Cafe and a creep writing to provide phone numbers of my contacts in Pacific Northwest Area (I blocked him).

#3 I posted information regarding a DIA contact, a creep asked me to provide her information (I blocked him).

Now examples are more than the ones I post.

What makes you think that I would furnish information you don't need to know?

Why don't you do your own leg work to have fun?Don't worry, the world is full of these sad fellows who assume that because one man scored, they can equally do so with same girl. They haven't the brains to realise that one man can find the words, mannerisms, humour and successful engagement of girl that results in full enjoyment. These sad fellows clearly lack the social skills to engage with women and seem to think we live in a point and shoot world. They also belong to the " give me give me " generation whereby they want what we have simply because we have it. India and Malaysia are full of the Neanderthals. Within moments of a post about a girl they will inundate your inbox with " hey bro, send me her digits". You can ignore them, or happily send them a steady stream of fake and false numbers. Or suggest they get a life and try to develop their own pick up skills that they so clearly lack.

[GoodEnough]

Welcome to the 'manager' class (as these trolls / lurkers etc are called on the UAE board). Plenty of them around, some can cause lots of problems for some of us, ruin a good relationship by showing the lady the board and posts / photos etc.

I (and others) get many of these PMs some from zero posters and mainly from those with no contributions. I got one recently and the troll PMed about 10 seniors who I know in the UAE asking for contacts and advice (he has 3 FRs all asking questions).

I ignore them mainly but he UAE board now has a separate thread for this behavior where we out a few of the really stupid PMs etc.

Maybe we should do it here?See, WR and FF, that's the advantage of never posting about sexual experiences, never posting photos and thus never providing reasons for the trolls to contact you. The PM, s I get are typically thoughtful and obviously written by people with quantifiable intelligence. On the rare occasions I receive PMs such as those you've eloquently described, I just ignore them, and I rarely agree to meet guys who request to get together unless they've been vetted by others, such as yourselves, whom I know personally. Saves lots of potential hassle and embarrassment. Why grown men, even newbies, would need personal help in a country teeming with potential targets is somewhat tought to understand, especially since the posts of guys like Donald and others are collectively, a detailed "how-to" guide.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

See, WR and FF, that's the advantage of never posting about sexual experiences, never posting photos and thus never providing reasons for the trolls to contact you. The PM, s I get are typically thoughtful and obviously written by people with quantifiable intelligence.GE.I get the entire range of PM's. Its the lurkers that I find interesting. I get my share of requests for digits of this or that recently posted naked pilipina. But many of the gents who send those requests have such few posts (often 1 or 2), over many years, that it boggles my mind just a bit that they passively read the board for years, just *waiting and waiting* to go somewhere and play like many of us do. For instance, when I get such a request from a gent, they usually start off with this thought: "Long-time watcher on the board. Have loved your pics (or posts). Blah blah". A quick check of his entire posting history might include one post in 2008 (Safe Sex forum), and another in 2012 (Canadian thread) where he asked a question on the open board. Followed by his PM to me in 2015.

One must ask: What makes a gent read ISG for years and years, pay money to belong to it (true, the $20 is small), and never leave home (or if he does, he never posts)?

[Red Kilt]

.<SNIP>. . The PM's I get are typically thoughtful and obviously written by people with quantifiable intelligence. On the rare occasions I receive PMs such as those you've eloquently described, I just ignore them, and I rarely agree any more to meet guys from ISG who request to get together. . . .".
I agree wholeheartedly with GE.

I think some posters here give out way too much detail about their exploits (without naming names).

It was former US President Calvin Coolidge who famously said "I have noticed that nothing I never said ever did me any harm" which is often paraphrased as "I never got into trouble for something I didn't say".

[Member #4387]

It can well be I exposure myself to much here, other can be the judge of that but since I have gotten some heat (beeing outed and girls found out, long time ago now, but still) I have taken proper safety measurment myself as in I never never tell when I come, when I am here or where I stay (even if that last one doesn't need a sherlock to come by). I have gotten msg from newly created members through PM's, from girls or there protectors, "lets meet here and there". Luckely I don't meet others than well adjusted posters anyway so no chance in hell I meet newly signed up members or as westie say members who doesn't do anything but lurk (its creepy anyway). So far I have met WR (he is a crazy bloke in a nice way so that was all fun) and one Marcos in Thailand (he was a cheapo so we was a tad to different). All post beeing made by me is when I am gone or are they? Who knows (I guess probably administrator could find out where my IP adress comes from if I am not using VPN, maybe I do).

I was about to stop posting, anything for a while but then I thought I wouldn't let the save a hoe guys or girls win. I risk very little posting and now that I have started blurring all the heat went away. Well I have the occational "is the girl in this or that pic ms xxxx or yyyy but so far without one exception (I think Pcp out) everyone have been wrong in their assumptions.

I lurk as well but I also contribute amd will continue to do so until I get caught from homebase (my GF). Well actually then its no need to stop either hehe bcs then I will have so much to come clrea with so our rel will never survive that one.

[BeersTerry]

I have been trying iron out details of a trip to Philippines. Specifically, leaving.

I need to catch a noon flight out of NAIA terminal 1 on a Monday.

I am flying into NAIA from Cebu on a yet to be booked flight. The posts I have been reading seem to suggest that I need 2 - 3 hours to get from the domestic terminal to the international terminal, given the cluster fuck that is NAIA.

Can anyone confirm?

Advice?

Thanks.

[Wicked Roger]

I have been trying iron out details of a trip to Philippines. Specifically, leaving.

I need to catch a noon flight out of NAIA terminal 1 on a Monday.

I am flying into NAIA from Cebu on a yet to be booked flight. The posts I have been reading seem to suggest that I need 2 - 3 hours to get from the domestic terminal to the international terminal, given the cluster fuck that is NAIA.

Can anyone confirm?

Advice?

Thanks.Much depends o the time you arrive BT. Allow 2-3 hours is plenty; of time just depends what the queues are like and your budget IMHO. Having done this I would not recommend the shuttle bus as that was like a mass scrum and I ended up with my suitcase on my head!!

Ask a taxi to take you there and pay him the rate to Makati say 500 pesos and arrive in time, clean, not sweating and cursing.

Then you have to face T1 of course and that ca also be a pain in the backside LOL.

[WestCoast1]

I am flying into NAIA from Cebu on a yet to be booked flight. The posts I have been reading seem to suggest that I need 2 - 3 hours to get from the domestic terminal to the international terminal, given the cluster fuck that is NAIA.

Can anyone confirm? Advice?Couple of thoughts:

1. Yes, it can be a cluster-fuck trying to get a taxi. When you finally get one, and tell him where you want to go, he might want to over-charge you an extra 100-200 or so pesos (just effing pay it; nothing can be more humiliating than missing your long-bow flight over a $4 argument with a taxi driver). During the "cluster-fuck" hours, it can take 30+ minutes to go from one terminal to another in a taxi (I would guess the distance to be 2 miles or less).

2. Take the free shuttle bus (its blue). It runs between terminals all day long. There is a bus schedule (its large, you can't miss it) by the chairs where people sit and wait for the bus. The schedule shows a bus departure about every 30 minutes. However, the bus is routinely 15-30 minutes late, might take 1 hour to reach your intended terminal after it departs, and sometimes the bus is packed with humanity.

My two-cents worth: plan for at least 3 hours from the time your (Cebu) plane lands, to the time you need to walk into the other (Int'l) terminal. Not 3 hours between landing time and departure time. You should be in walking into your Int'l terminal 2-3 hours before its scheduled departure time. So, as an example, your Int'l flight is scheduled to depart NAIA at 4 pm. You want to walk into that terminal at 1 pm (I am playing it very safe here for you, plenty of time to get checked in, thru security, and to your gate and pick up a Starbucks latte). You will want your Cebu flight to land no later than by 10 am (3 hours prior to your 1 pm entrance to your Int'l terminal). I realize that 6 hours total between landing in one aircraft and departing in another aircraft at the same airport sounds crazy and like way too much time, but remember: your in Philippines. Where the pussy is great, whilst most other items don't stack up to western standards, including the fact that locals don't view time the same way you do, failed infrastructure and culture brings on the cluster-fuck, and the airport consists of terminals that are not physically connected. Haha what could *possibly* go wrong! Better to be sitting at the gate, way early, bored, than to miss a flight.

[Dg8787]

I have been trying iron out details of a trip to Philippines. Specifically, leaving.

I need to catch a noon flight out of NAIA terminal 1 on a Monday.

I am flying into NAIA from Cebu on a yet to be booked flight. The posts I have been reading seem to suggest that I need 2 - 3 hours to get from the domestic terminal to the international terminal, given the cluster fuck that is NAIA.

Can anyone confirm?

Advice?

Thanks.You have gotten good advice from WR and WC.

Lately many flight are delayed a few hours due to NAIA being backed up. I would suggest that you fly into Manila the night before to make sure you are there and not stress over a delayed flight and missing the one home. Get a room for the night and then fly out Leisurely the next day.

[Mr Hawaii]

I have been trying iron out details of a trip to Philippines. Specifically, leaving.

I need to catch a noon flight out of NAIA terminal 1 on a Monday.
I am flying into NAIA from Cebu on a yet to be booked flight. The posts I have been reading seem to suggest that I need 2 - 3 hours
Can anyone confirm?
Advice?

Thanks.Years ago, in Cagayan de Oro, I missed my PAL flight to MNL and luckily was able to book on Cebu Pacific, and I caught my international flight back to USA. In Cebu the traffic can be really bad, and there are just too many things that can go wrong, causing you to miss your flight. Please, if at all possible, fly back to MNL the day before your flight. Relax. You don't need the stress.

[GoodEnough]

You have gotten good advice from WR and WC.

Lately many flight are delayed a few hours due to NAIA being backed up. I would suggest that you fly into Manila the night before to make sure you are there and not stress over a delayed flight and missing the one home. Get a room for the night and then fly out Leisurely the next day.To add further to the good advice provided, I'd also book a hotel within reasonable distance to the airport. Traffic can be a nighmare.

GE.

[BeersTerry]

Thanks for all the great advice gentlemen! I guess I will be flying back to Manila on the Sunday as I have missed flights before due to 3rd world business / scheduling practises.

I am staying in Pasay when I first get there so I guess I will stay there when I return. Hopefully Manila is not as bad as I have been reading, though as I have posted $7000 php is pretty expensive for a roommate. That kind of pricing can get you amazing quality in latin America.

[WestCoast1]

From the US State Dept, today (they update this every few months):

The Department of State warns U.S. citizens to avoid all non-essential travel to the Sulu Archipelago and through the southern Sulu Sea, and to exercise extreme caution when traveling to the island of Mindanao, due to continued terrorist threats, insurgent activities and kidnappings.This Travel Warning replaces the Travel Warning dated October 21, 2015.

U.S. citizens should continue to defer non-essential travel to the Sulu Archipelago, due to the high threat of kidnapping of international travelers, increased threat of maritime kidnappings against small boats in the vicinity of the Sulu Archipelago, and violence linked to insurgency and terrorism there.

U.S. citizens should defer non-essential travel through the southern Sulu Sea region from the southern tip of Palawan, along the coast of Sabah, Malaysia and the islands of the Sulu Archipelago, up to Zamboanga City, Mindanao. Terrorist and insurgent groups based in the Sulu Archipelago continue to target foreigners for kidnapping in the Eastern Sabah province of Malaysia and in the southern Sulu Sea area.

U.S. citizens should also continue to exercise extreme caution if traveling to certain regions and cities of the island of Mindanao. Separatist and terrorist groups continue to carry out attacks and kidnappings against civilians, foreigners, political leaders, and Philippine security forces in Mindanao. Since January 2015, at least 15 separate kidnappings have been reported across Mindanao. In western Mindanao, terrorist, insurgent, and criminal gangs regularly conduct kidnappings for ransom, including the kidnapping of a foreigner in Dipolog City in early October 2015 by unknown assailants. In central Mindanao, the Bangsamoro Islamic Freedom Fighters (BIFF) remains active in the Cotabato City area, and in the Maguindanao, North Cotabato, and Sultan Kudarat provinces, where the government maintains a state of emergency and a greater police presence. While there have been no recent reported terrorist threats or incidents within the Davao City or Surigao city limits, eastern Mindanao is not free from threats. In September 2015, assailants belonging to the Abu Sayyaf Group kidnapped four individuals, including three foreigners, from the popular resort island of Samal, a 15 minute boat ride from Davao City. There have been no reports of U.S. citizens in Mindanao targeted specifically for their nationality; however, general threats to U.S. citizens and other foreigners throughout Mindanao remain a concern.

Although U.S. government officials in the Philippines travel to Mindanao for official business without incident, the Embassy has imposed strict restrictions on all but the most essential travel to the area, and Embassy employees must receive special authorization from Embassy security officials to travel to any location in Mindanao or the Sulu Archipelago.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks WC, I got the same warning this morning. Seems like the thrust of the message never changes much, though the word choices may vary slightly. The fact is that Davao and General Santos and CDO remain safe, and I don't think anyone should have any qualms about going to any of these. The points about Sulu and Zamboanga are well taken, but would normally be off limits to foreigners in any case as there's so little of interest in either place. Cotabato and all of North and South Cotabato should be avoided as well, but then I'm not sure why any tourist would want to go there. Davao-based tourists are still apparently going to resorts on Samal, so I'm guessing that the recent kidnappings weren't much of a deterrent.

GE.

[BeersTerry]

All right, I am going to fly into Manila from Cebu Sunday night for my Monday morning. 11:45 am flight back home.

I guess that means I am leaving around 8 - 8:30 am to go to the airport.

Hotel I am staying at initially is 5 km from the airport. I can get one about 1. 5 km from the airport.

Am I too nit picky or should I leave earlier / stay closer?

[WestCoast1]

All right, I am going to fly into Manila from Cebu Sunday night for my Monday morning. 11:45 am flight back home.

I guess that means I am leaving around 8 - 8:30 am to go to the airport.

Hotel I am staying at initially is 5 km from the airport. I can get one about 1. 5 km from the airport.

Am I too nit picky or should I leave earlier / stay closer?Once again, plan to arrive at the Int'l terminal at NAIA by 8:45 (3 hours before flight time). You may have to wait in a long line outside the airport, just to get inside (initial luggage security screening and x-ray machine). Have your passport and itinerary in hand. Once inside the airport (good luck finding television screens with flight info / departure times), find your airline, and queue up in long line to check in and get a boarding pass. Then pass thru long-line secondary security checkpoint (remove belt, men and women in different queues). No kidding, from arrival at the airport to getting thru the secondary security check can often be 90 minutes. After that, head to your gate. Boarding starts 30 minutes prior to scheduled departure.

1. 5 km from the airport is much smarter. I'd leave by 8 am to be there by 8:45. I am being very cautious / conservative in my estimates. Its very possible you can shortcut on the time here and be fine. But better safe than sorry. If you are staying at the farther hotel, leave by 7:30. Manila traffic is never "good", and just when you least expect it (and can least afford the time), you get the troppik-cluster-f*ck.

[Golfinho]

All right, I am going to fly into Manila from Cebu Sunday night for my Monday morning. 11:45 am flight back home.I guess that means I am leaving around 8 - 8:30 am to go to the airport.r?Are you on a good airline? Not flying coach? Can you check in on-line? Do you have frequent flyer status? Otherwise, you better plan to join the 3-hour early crowd.

[BeersTerry]

Thanks WestCoast1, your guidance is invaluable.

Hope I can return the favor should you want to venture into Latin America, me I am good with Cuba, more havana than the rest, VJ is much better with Medellin while I am okay With Peirera, Armenia, Manizales and Cali.

[ParnellCat]

The best advice for pretty much anything and everything in the Philippines:

Never be in a hurry. Read that line twice, this time, slowly.

Arguably not always practical. Certainly not innate to most not of Filipino decent or fully acclimatized to the culture.

But believe me it is the key to less stress, lower blood pressure and a million other ailments.

It's the only advice I give to friends who first time visitors.

[Mbsl65]

Eva Air now has a Taipei- Cebu flights daily. It arrive around 10 am and very perfect time to save a day during the trip. Eva do have several connections from North America.

International arrival: After some remodeling customs is a breeze to pass. However, before the customs they do have a Health Check Desk and it causes a long line. But it also goes fast.

[GoodEnough]

Once again, plan to arrive at the Int'l terminal at NAIA by 8:45 (3 hours before flight time). You may have to wait in a long line outside the airport, just to get inside (initial luggage security screening and x-ray machine). Have your passport and itinerary in hand. Once inside the airport (good luck finding television screens with flight info / departure times), find your airline, and queue up in long line to check in and get a boarding pass. Then pass thru long-line secondary security checkpoint (remove belt, men and women in different queues). No kidding, from arrival at the airport to getting thru the secondary security check can often be 90 minutes. After that, head to your gate. Boarding starts 30 minutes prior to scheduled departure.

1. 5 km from the airport is much smarter. I'd leave by 8 am to be there by 8:45. I am being very cautious / conservative in my estimates. Its very possible you can shortcut on the time here and be fine. But better safe than sorry. If you are staying at the farther hotel, leave by 7:30. Manila traffic is never "good", and just when you least expect it (and can least afford the time), you get the troppik-cluster-f*ck.NAIA is, admittedly, va nightmare and has a well-earned reputation as the world's worst airport. However, if, as pointed out by others, you can check in for your flight in line, and then print out a boarding pass, you might be able to go directly to Immigration, thus bypassing long, slow moving check-in lines.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

NAIA is, admittedly, va nightmare and has a well-earned reputation as the world's worst airport. However, if, as pointed out by others, you can check in for your flight in line, and then print out a boarding pass, you might be able to go directly to Immigration, thus bypassing long, slow moving check-in lines.

GE.Is there a quick way to check luggage (assuming online checking / boarding pass)? Also, boarding pass or not, he will have to wait in the line outside to get thru the initial luggage screening.

[Red Kilt]

Is there a quick way to check luggage (assuming online checking / boarding pass)? Also, boarding pass or not, he will have to wait in the line outside to get thru the initial luggage screening.Correct.

There is no way to bypass the initial baggage screening as you enter any of the terminals.

However, I have just used PAL (Sunday and Tuesday) with on-line check-in and pre-printed boarding passes and if you have carry-on only you go straight through to the departure areas. Note that I said "boarding passes" because you need to print out 2 passes; one for the gate check to keep and the other for the plane and your records

If you need to check-in a bag then you go to a "bag-drop" line which bypasses the long meandering lines to get to the check-in counter.

I don't know about Cebu Pacific at Terminal 3 as I try to bypass that terminal altogether. Wherever possible I use PAL's Terminal 2 (for international travel too) because the aircon is much cooler and conditions less cramped.

[Mbsl65]

Correct.

I don't know about Cebu Pacific at Terminal 3 as I try to bypass that terminal altogether. Wherever possible I use PAL's Terminal 2 (for international travel too) because the aircon is much cooler and conditions less cramped.They also accept the mobile phone records. You can show the pass to the guard your ID and matching e-record, they let you in.

[Mogwai]

Correct.

There is no way to bypass the initial baggage screening as you enter any of the terminals.

However, I have just used PAL (Sunday and Tuesday) with on-line check-in and pre-printed boarding passes and if you have carry-on only you go straight through to the departure areas. Note that I said "boarding passes" because you need to print out 2 passes; one for the gate check to keep and the other for the plane and your records

If you need to check-in a bag then you go to a "bag-drop" line which bypasses the long meandering lines to get to the check-in counter.

I don't know about Cebu Pacific at Terminal 3 as I try to bypass that terminal altogether. Wherever possible I use PAL's Terminal 2 (for international travel too) because the aircon is much cooler and conditions less cramped.I have used Terminal 3 a couple of times in the last year and it wasn't that bad. The aircon could be better indeed but the lines for baggage screening and immigration were not that long.
But maybe I was just lucky. I did see long lines for the initial baggage screening at one of the entrances, I believe it was for domestic flights (Cebu Pacific).

I always check in on line and print out my boarding pass (or my hotel reception prints it out for me) so I can bypass the long lines at the check-in counter.
However I've never heard before that you need to print out 2 boarding passes. I've always printed out just one and no one at the gate check ever wanted to keep that one. And anyway sometimes I got a new boarding pass at the baggage drop of counter. Just one.

[CallSign Papa]

I don't know about Cebu Pacific at Terminal 3 as I try to bypass that terminal altogether. Wherever possible I use PAL's Terminal 2 (for international travel too) because the aircon is much cooler and conditions less cramped.I use it most times I'm in Manila, if you check in online, you'll find the "Web Check in" bag drop queue empty whilst the standard check in queues are long. Getting through security and immigration generally takes less than 10 minutes. They have a bar and a few small restaurants airside, perfectly reasonable experience.

My one tip would be on entering terminal 3 (especially if you have a foreign passport), use the far end entrance (Emirates) and not the CP door, which always has long queues. The Emirates door is always empty and a quick flash of the passport is enough to get through. Last time through I was airside within 10 minutes of being dropped off in the taxi.

[GoodEnough]

I'm with RK in that I use Termjnal 2 almost exclusively, and will only venture near Terminal 3 if I've got no choice. I never check bags, and I'm usually through security and in the lounge within 10 minutes of arriving outside the terminal, having checked in on line and printed my boarding passes.

GE.

[Red Kilt]

However I've never heard before that you need to print out 2 boarding passes. I've always printed out just one and no one at the gate check ever wanted to keep that one. And anyway sometimes I got a new boarding pass at the baggage drop of counter. Just one.I might have mislead you Mogs. I was referring to PAL.

When you print out your boarding pass from the PAL website you get a single page with two passes on it.

One is designated for the "agent" at the gate and one is for your records and to carry on the plane. They use the copy left at the gate to cross-check that all booked passengers are on board.

They are required to do that in case someone checks on a bomb in their bags but doesn't board the plane.

The first time I used it I never cut it in half and the girl then had difficulty in tearing it in half as I went through the final check before boarding the plane.

So each time now I cut the page in half so that I have 2 copies.

[Fastpiston]

Prepare yourself for any departure from any NAIA terminal and remind yourself it is impartially ranked as one of the worst airports in the world and will remain so for the foreseeable future. That way you will build your tolerance before arriving at the airport. Be prepared to sit on the floor air-side in terminal 2 if there are many flights departing such as in the evening. Maybe take a sandwich with you as terminal 2 lacks any meaningful food. Toilets facilities are very limited. Terminal 3 has better food facilities, especially in check-in area upper floor. Terminal 3 of course requires you to join long lines outside the building to pass first stage security to get into the building. Air-side there a few small food outlets with very mediocre food, mainly Filipino food. Toilet facilities have improved air-side. Some international airlines such as Singapore Airlines allow you to check in your bags early, but then your bags will be in the loading area for a while and sticky hands may go into your bags. The check in area of terminal 3 is usually a heaving mass of humanity and getting a seat at times can be totally impossible with the masses usually sitting around on the floor. The car park next to terminal 3 is always totally full when I go there. In all cases, read the Philippine press and be aware of the scams inside all terminals, especially in the so called security check areas. You will note that Filipinos commonly duct tape of plastic wrap their carry on and check in bags. They do not do this for fun!

[Dg8787]

The sky is not falling contrary to other reports.

T1 and T3 are not shitholes. T4 is a lot smaller and easy to navigate. I have no experience with T2. If you have food preferences then common sense would tell you to pack your own lunch.

On most occasions you can use the porters at T1 and T3 and bypass the long wait at the first X-ray machine. A tip of P100 is well worth my time to bypass the lines.

Yes, most domestic flights are delayed several hours most days. Just be aware of that and chill out. Bring something to read. Bring a cell charger adapter with double USB charging outlets and meet a new friend.

[Member #4387]

The sky is not falling contrary to other reports.

T1 and T3 are not shitholes. T4 is a lot smaller and easy to navigate. I have no experience with T2. If you have food preferences then common sense would tell you to pack your own lunch.

On most occasions you can use the porters at T1 and T3 and bypass the long wait at the first X-ray machine. A tip of P100 is well worth my time to bypass the lines.

Yes, most domestic flights are delayed several hours most days. Just be aware of that and chill out. Bring something to read. Bring a cell charger adapter with double USB charging outlets and meet a new friend.The only terminal in Naias surroundings I've never been to is T4 (I don't know what qualifies as a terminal but I've seen better refugeecamps than the T4 (bypassing only)).

From the T1 to T3 I find T3 the best;.

T3: This is ofcourse influated by me mostly depart with the so so midnight EK flight (used to depart 00:20 am but have now changed to 11:50 pm). As a side note I have tried explained this change to some girls but they can not see the big point, can you guys?? Its of extreme importancy when you book your ticket? Others than that I keep my arriving at the airport no more than 60 min ahead of ETD a golden rule. I've been as late as ETD 45 min but I guess beeing Platinum keeps a check in counter open. From my Makati apt I estimate 30 min traveltime and that's it. Sometimes we get T3 a bit faster sometimes a bit slower. I've never missed my plane though. I have both due to miles and / or tickets allways access to first or biz lounges. The Skyviewshit lounge at Naia I've visited one time and never again (I hear from friends though that aircon works again and its like an artic environment in there). Don't care realy bcs I arrive late at airport even so.

T2: How someone can prefer this shitty terminal and airline dep / arr from here above something else beats me. Phil Air (PR) is amongst my worst airlines. I fly many airlines during one year and in a 42 yo long life and from those I've been actively flying maybe 20 of them Phil Air is in class with Iranian Mahan and / or Iran Air. I view everything by businessclass or better by the way. Phil Air in my book don't have a businessclass. Maybe their best class would be premium economy in more western airlines. I give Phil Air a bit attantion bcs they are T2 and without them who knows the fuck.

Even so I've travelled through T2 sometimes. I book for lonhaul tickets maybe 1 to 2 days ahead. If I've been to Thailand or Beijing I have just met at the counter and booked tickets there with PR bcs its been the closest departuring airline. T2 as economy I can not elaborate but as biz customer it has to be the worst lounge I've ever encountered. I've grown tired from lounges / airports so if I have a chance I foucus more on how late can I get to the airport and still catch my flight. T2 and its biz, even if renovated, still sucks. Nothing compared to other airlines and its designated biz lounges around the globe. If PR try to become a intl actor they better pimp up their game. I will fly them again if I am in BKK and suddenly "have" to go MNL or oposit and they are the first choice of dep.

T1: I hated T1 for a long time. Since I live in Europe, Qatar, Thai and lastly Turkish, have been okay for flying here. Since I mostly stay in Makati I find T3 better as in location so its normaly an easy breezy drive to my Makati stay. If I stay other places I sometimes choose airlines due to bookings of hotel or in reversed order (depends a tad on where most of my upcomming girlieobject is based). I allways fly First or Biz. T1 seems unpopular but what they have for installed lately is actually working AC (air condition), not the nasty place. Even if I am not price sensitive I choose Thai with campaign prices for Biz like US2000 return ticket than paying US4000 with an airline arriving another terminal. T1 was bad but its okay now bcs airlines want to go at least not so many major big airlines fly T1 anymore so immigration is easy breeze.

Arriving last time T3 (EK) I almost fainted as both peoplemovers worked (electiontime I guess). For a good year, or longer, the first and last one (of only two) have rotated beeing out of order. Dep wice I arrive T3 60 min prior to departure. This hours no lines and the last year I've never been asked for any booking comfirmation (I have it available though in my pad). Just walking inside, screening my bag, to the Biz / First class counter, sexurity (hehe) and the board aircraft. T3 is basically best bcs I can spend as little time there as possible.

[Dg8787]

Took only 90 minutes today from AC to NAIA T3 this Sunday morning. No stop and go traffic at all. Left AC at 09:30.

Best to bring your own cellophane wrap. Seems like every third person has their luggage well wrapped! Stores are probably all out of stock.

[Member #4387]

Took only 90 minutes today from AC to NAIA T3 this Sunday morning. No stop and go traffic at all. Left AC at 09:30.

Best to bring your own cellophane wrap. Seems like every third person has their luggage well wrapped! Stores are probably all out of stock.I think the bullet scam is done by now? Why wrap your suitecase now? I have to admit I was, duringi prime time of the bullet scam, travelling heavy in and out of Naia's(T1,2 and 3). Never ever did I exp any hazzle. It should be fun though see a guy/girl arriving with his own cellophane, wrapping up his / her sutiecase. To much hazzle in my book but again to each their own.

[Member #4387]

Prepare yourself for any departure from any NAIA terminal and remind yourself it is impartially ranked as one of the worst airports in the world and will remain so for the foreseeable future. That way you will build your tolerance before arriving at the airport. Be prepared to sit on the floor air-side in terminal 2 if there are many flights departing such as in the evening. Maybe take a sandwich with you as terminal 2 lacks any meaningful food. Toilets facilities are very limited. Terminal 3 has better food facilities, especially in check-in area upper floor. Terminal 3 of course requires you to join long lines outside the building to pass first stage security to get into the building. Air-side there a few small food outlets with very mediocre food, mainly Filipino food. Toilet facilities have improved air-side. Some international airlines such as Singapore Airlines allow you to check in your bags early, but then your bags will be in the loading area for a while and sticky hands may go into your bags. The check in area of terminal 3 is usually a heaving mass of humanity and getting a seat at times can be totally impossible with the masses usually sitting around on the floor. The car park next to terminal 3 is always totally full when I go there. In all cases, read the Philippine press and be aware of the scams inside all terminals, especially in the so called security check areas. You will note that Filipinos commonly duct tape of plastic wrap their carry on and check in bags. They do not do this for fun!I promote this as wordings. Ex me travel from T3 mostly around midnight with initial EK flight. No lines and never ever I've been asked for booking records entering the first initial screening. Its laughable at best bcs I am slippy and allways forget to remove my belt and / or iphone (pocketed). Alarm goes off as I pass through but no one gives a shit.

Secondary sec screen I last time did forget I carried a 0,5 l of coke in my bag (was planning to drink it in the taxi I guess). They didn't care and I got my btl through. Could be heaven for a terrorist (don't want to promote them start hittingup Naia though).

[Dg8787]

I think the bullet scam is done by now? Why wrap your suitecase now? I have to admit I was, duringi prime time of the bullet scam, travelling heavy in and out of Naia's(T1,2 and 3). Never ever did I exp any hazzle. It should be fun though see a guy/girl arriving with his own cellophane, wrapping up his / her sutiecase. To much hazzle in my book but again to each their own.I was just stating the irony of the cellophane wrapped luggage. I never wrap mine and always keep an eye on it. The only exposure to me is if there is a midget or small child in the X-ray machine placing bullets in the bags.

There were long lines outside for the initial X-ray scanner but thru the art of tipping I was thru it in one minute.

BTW the Skyview lounge is finished with whatever work was done and the AC is frigid!

[Member #4387]

I was just stating the irony of the cellophane wrapped luggage. I never wrap mine and always keep an eye on it. The only exposure to me is if there is a midget or small child in the X-ray machine placing bullets in the bags.

There were long lines outside for the initial X-ray scanner but thru the art of tipping I was thru it in one minute.

BTW the Skyview lounge is finished with whatever work was done and the AC is frigid!Haha, that's cool man. Sorry for misinterp your late msg As you probably know by now english is not my native tounge but my good second alternative. Sometimes I can miss understatements in humoristic writings. I lay flat and say sorry.

Skyview lounge, last time I was there, no AC, they put up some fans though. My friend did travel through a few weeks ago, spend a few min in Skyview, and then it was like Artic inside there (why can they not find the golden middle way, hehe). He told me he had to go toilet to put pants on (jeans). I, myself, adjust my traveltime so close by now so I don't visit any lounges no more.

[Dg8787]

The last time I was in Skyview Lounge the AC did not work and they had a lot of fans blowing. That was early February. Now the AC is frigid cold. Because I got here so fast today from Angeles that I have been in the lounge for an hour. Someone must have complained that it was so cold that a lounge worker was walking around with a remote resetting the temperate. There must 4 or 5 AC units on each side.

Meanwhile they have a real cutie doing OJT. She has been like my personal server!

I am going to miss Philippines for a few months.

[FunExplorer]

I would appreciate information of on SIM CARD in Philippines for making international calls.

[Member #4387]

The last time I was in Skyview Lounge the AC did not work and they had a lot of fans blowing. That was early February. Now the AC is frigid cold. Because I got here so fast today from Angeles that I have been in the lounge for an hour. Someone must have complained that it was so cold that a lounge worker was walking around with a remote resetting the temperate. There must 4 or 5 AC units on each side.

Meanwhile they have a real cutie doing OJT. She has been like my personal server!

I am going to miss Philippines for a few months.Haha I just left and am back home know (bkk). I visited maybe the Skyview lounge like you in January and then it was like a heater inside there. They had some fans put up but they only blew warm air around and didn't help at all.

[Wicked Roger]

Haha I just left and am back home know (bkk). I visited maybe the Skyview lounge like you in January and then it was like a heater inside there. They had some fans put up but they only blew warm air around and didn't help at all.Like DS I use this a lot and it is either sweating or too much wind (IMHO can never be too cold as 18 C is perfect for me LOL).

When the fans are used I sit in front of one as otherwise I walk to the plane as a sweaty body (not nice to see).

And the staff are cute period IMHO but the food sucks (can't eat any of it) but I know where they hide the bottles of water and always get 5-6 bottles so am OK.

Apart from that T3 use mainly and like DS, is IMHO better than the others (well especially T1 and T4, the latter reminds me of the earlier Gulf state 'airports' but worse.

The walkways have never worked when I am there but as DS sad maybe as elections etc they have spent some cash on maintenance but am sure they will break down again.

What I dot understand is the yellow form I am giving them as while it is all about Ebola, no one ever checks it is purely cursory and even in Aussie now this has been stopped. But if there is an Ebola issue and they look at the form and someone has written DS on the firm then what to do?

[Psychman]

I try to post valuable information or make comments to contribute positively to help fellow members to travel in an ease. However, being a paid member of this board, I do get private mails and many of them are creepy.

For Example:

#1 I posted a FR regarding my Davao City experience. An a creep ask me to provide my dates phone # so he could f* her. (I blocked him).

#2 I posted an experience regarding Manila Bay Cafe and a creep writing to provide phone numbers of my contacts in Pacific Northwest Area (I blocked him).

#3 I posted information regarding a DIA contact, a creep asked me to provide her information (I blocked him).

Now examples are more than the ones I post.

What makes you think that I would furnish information you don't need to know?

Why don't you do your own leg work to have fun?Now for context. Said creep (me) has a 10 year history of helping others on this and other boards with various information and contacts. Fine if you do't want to share, but don't be an asshole about it and make assumptions. Frankly, some of your contacts would probably like others to have a bit more action. I have shared info on women in Peru, Costa Rica, Columbia, Thailand, the PI, KL, Tijuana, ect. So, again, fine not sharing, but don't make it out that you are somehow being asked information by those who contribute nothing, and that you are somehow the keeper of some wonderful, exclusive wisdom. Its pussy, and many of us share info about pussy. That is what ISG is about, prick.

[X Man]

I don't think you need to be calling names here. Regular posters often get unexpected requests for phone numbers and location, which bar, name, what is her phone number, blah, blah. I would recommend extreme caution. Is it really your buddy or Hillary clinton asking?

Nevertheless, I've had some wonderful recommendations over the years. Let me think, about 99% of recommendations either way have been with people I have met. Yes, actually met face to face. There was one guy who got a contact from me, but then refused to return the favor because "he never shares".

If you send a pm out of the blue, don't expect someone to research your history. And let's face it, 300 posts over ten years, covering 7+ countries, is what?

Try not to be so prickly Psychman.


Now for context. Said creep (me) has a 10 year history of helping others on this and other boards with various information and contacts. Fine if you do't want to share, but don't be an asshole about it and make assumptions. Frankly, some of your contacts would probably like others to have a bit more action. I have shared info on women in Peru, Costa Rica, Columbia, Thailand, the PI, KL, Tijuana, ect. So, again, fine not sharing, but don't make it out that you are somehow being asked information by those who contribute nothing, and that you are somehow the keeper of some wonderful, exclusive wisdom. Its pussy, and many of us share info about pussy. That is what ISG is about, prick.

[Cool]

I would appreciate information of on SIM CARD in Philippines for making international calls.You can buy a Sun or Globe prepaid Sim for less than $1 and then by IDD card for international calls 4-5 cents a min. to US. Sun has better rates and Thailand Japan MidEast cost more.

[Psychman]

I don't think you need to be calling names here. Regular posters often get unexpected requests for phone numbers and location, which bar, name, what is her phone number, blah, blah. I would recommend extreme caution. Is it really your buddy or Hillary clinton asking?

Nevertheless, I've had some wonderful recommendations over the years. Let me think, about 99% of recommendations either way have been with people I have met. Yes, actually met face to face. There was one guy who got a contact from me, but then refused to return the favor because "he never shares".

If you send a pm out of the blue, don't expect someone to research your history. And let's face it, 300 posts over ten years, covering 7+ countries, is what?

Try not to be so prickly Psychman.Fair enough about the name calling; I just through it was an especially silly post that smacked of "big man on campus" syndrome. Plus, there was need for him to do research; I provided plenty of context in my email to him. There was nothing random or creepy about it. A simple- I don't do that would have sufficed, not an email full of insults, and then, being called out in public. Regardless, I said my peace; thanks for saying yours.

[Redman69]

I have been married for 3 years now. So do not visit here much anymore. Just want to say I met physchman face to face at the del rey in San Jose CR. We shared alot of tips and advice. He saw me here. We use the same name on all boards. And it was good to see him take advantage of this board. I freely told him anything I knew as he did with me a out 8 years ago and many times since. Just a FYI. And he is welcome in my home with my wife and kids as others here are. You all have fun now.

[Sam 14]

I would appreciate information of on SIM CARD in Philippines for making international calls. This one will cost you 1 peso a minute. It says the promo is expired but they don't get around to updating their website often. https://www.globe.com.ph/help/international/idd-299-and-idd-499.

[Dg8787]

I would appreciate information of on SIM CARD in Philippines for making international calls.If you have an iPhone or iPad then you can download the free app for Magic Jack and make free calls to any Canada and USA numbers over wifi. Your call will be seen as made from a Florida area code. You can also prepay Magic Jack for calls to other countries.

I am not sure if this app is available now on other android phones or not.

[Psychman]

I have been married for 3 years now. So do not visit here much anymore. Just want to say I met physchman face to face at the del rey in San Jose CR. We shared alot of tips and advice. He saw me here. We use the same name on all boards. And it was good to see him take advantage of this board. I freely told him anything I knew as he did with me a out 8 years ago and many times since. Just a FYI. And he is welcome in my home with my wife and kids as others here are. You all have fun now.Red. So good to see you here; has it really been 8 years since we meet across from the DR in San Jose? The years fly. I am thrilled you are still married, and wish you happiness and health. Hope our paths do cross.

[X Man]

You weren't named, you were not called out in public. His public post was very generic and you should have replied directly to him. It's interesting that the "creepy" remark hit your soft spot. I think 90% of the guys here are really creepy, and we should embrace the adjective.


Fair enough about the name calling; I just through it was an especially silly post that smacked of "big man on campus" syndrome. Plus, there was need for him to do research; I provided plenty of context in my email to him. There was nothing random or creepy about it. A simple- I don't do that would have sufficed, not an email full of insults, and then, being called out in public. Regardless, I said my peace; thanks for saying yours.

[X Man]

Why is this not sent PM? Sounds like someone wanting to inflate his "big man" about town profile.


Red. So good to see you here; has it really been 8 years since we meet across from the DR in San Jose? The years fly. I am thrilled you are still married, and wish you happiness and health. Hope our paths do cross.

[Psychman]

Why is this not sent PM? Sounds like someone wanting to inflate his "big man" about town profile.Perhaps follow your own advice? An old friend said Hi, I said Hi back.

[Red Kilt]

Perhaps follow your own advice? An old friend said Hi, I said Hi back.I think XMan's point is that the old friend (Redman) erred by greeting you on the open board instead of sending a PM to you telling you about his life and times.

You compounded the problem by greeting him back on the open board instead of sending him a PM.

Heaven forbid the board becomes like Facebook with everyone sharing their personal and private business with everyone on the open public board.

[Redman69]

I think XMan's point is that the old friend (Redman) erred by greeting you on the open board instead of sending a PM to you telling you about his life and times.

You compounded the problem by greeting him back on the open board instead of sending him a PM.

Heaven forbid the board becomes like Facebook with everyone sharing their personal and private business with everyone on the open public board.Actually I posted here so some who know me and have met me face to face would know what I know.

Now I do agree 90 to 97% of us are creepy. And most would not be welcome in my house. Yet there are a few perverts here who are not theifs, liars, [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) and other bad things. Just mongers.

[FreebieFan]

Heaven forbid the board becomes like Facebook with everyone sharing their personal and private business with everyone on the open public board.I was thinking about making roast beef tonight. Does anyone have any great recipes for a really nice beef sauce. One with a bit of spice but not too spicy that will compliment the roast potatoes really well. Lets all share recipes??

[Red Kilt]

I was thinking about making roast beef tonight. Does anyone have any great recipes for a really nice beef sauce. One with a bit of spice but not too spicy that will compliment the roast potatoes really well. Lets all share recipes??That's a bit naughty FF.

You know that there are some guys here who take everything literally and will start flaming you for getting off-topic LOL.

Just so we get back on topic.

I am bemused by all the discussion here and on the AC thread about runners etc.

Bemused because if guys just stuck with ST then they wouldn't have the hassles.

I only ever want ST and for her then to just go and leave me to get a good night's sleep or play the same game as they do; go out and find another one.

I never have the hassles because I NEVER want LT anyway, anywhere, especially if it is a random be / g who I don't know.

If it's a dating site contact then it's a different scenario and I probably know more about her and if she wants to stay longer then why not?

The ST / LT switch model seems to be the new norm so if you want LT then you are going to have lots of uncertainty in your negotiations and a possible outcome that may well spoil your night.

[GoodEnough]

It must be because I'm so much younger, better looking and more virile than most but I never have a problem with runners. Just spent a night in Angeles again, and again did overnight.

By the way, the new nightclub that's being built by the owner of the ABC will be targeted, to quote him, "toward older guys," by which he meant guys above 40. That is, it will not have lots of cacaphonous music, will have seating that actually encourages conversation, and high end booze. He figures it will be open during the first part of next year.

GE.

[Member #4387]

I was thinking about making roast beef tonight. Does anyone have any great recipes for a really nice beef sauce. One with a bit of spice but not too spicy that will compliment the roast potatoes really well. Lets all share recipes??I show you roast feeb bcs this is how I like it. I guess this is what you meant.

[X Man]

GoodEnough,

As for your first sentence. You forgot to mention that you are a fashionista! Your black / yellow / shocking pink shirts with gold cuff links really paint a picture of style and class.

As for ABZ, might I suggest the old Filipino cliche, "they tell you what you want to hear".

BTW, have you ever visited Mirrors bar at the Clarkton Hotel? It's way out on Perimeter, but they have something more laid back than the usual stuff. And I liked the balcony rooms over the pool. German run BTW.


It must be because I'm so much younger, better looking and more virile than most but I never have a problem with runners. Just spent a night in Angeles again, and again did overnight.

By the way, the new nightclub that's being built by the owner of the ABC will be targeted, to quote him, "toward older guys," by which he meant guys above 40. That is, it will not have lots of cacaphonous music, will have seating that actually encourages conversation, and high end booze. He figures it will be open during the first part of next year.

GE.

[GoodEnough]

GoodEnough,

As for your first sentence. You forgot to mention that you are a fashionista! Your black / yellow / shocking pink shirts with gold cuff links really paint a picture of style and class.

As for ABZ, might I suggest the old Filipino cliche, "they tell you what you want to hear".

BTW, have you ever visited Mirrors bar at the Clarkton Hotel? It's way out on Perimeter, but they have something more laid back than the usual stuff. And I liked the balcony rooms over the pool. German run BTW.And let us not forget my platform shoes X, since you raised the issue of fashion. As to the telling me what I want to hear, I don't think it's true. The owner of ABC is an "older" guy who can't stomach the lousy service and noise of High Society, so he's decided to build something that reflects his predilections. I guess we will know for sure once it opens.

I've never tried any alternative to ABC though I thank you for the recommendation. I mainly go there to hang out with a Canadian buddy when he's in town. Just as an aside, my trip today from Angeles back to Makati took 2. 5 hours in the middle of the morning. The traffic once we hit Manila was paralyzing.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

I am bemused by all the discussion here and on the AC thread about runners etc.

Bemused because if guys just stuck with ST then they wouldn't have the hassles.

I only ever want ST and for her then to just go and leave me to get a good night's sleep or play the same game as they do; go out and find another one.
Just to weigh in, I'm quite the opposite. When I get a bargirl, I want her well into the next morning. A bang in the evening, wake up to a slumbering beauty, a bang in the morning if I'm horny. Breakfast. A lazy morning and she's out the door.

[Red Kilt]

Just to weigh in, I'm quite the opposite. When I get a bargirl, I want her well into the next morning. A bang in the evening, wake up to a slumbering beauty, a bang in the morning if I'm horny. Breakfast. A lazy morning and she's out the door.No argument from me.

Two equally valid opinions at opposite ends of a spectrum.

I was referring to the increasing incidence of stories about bar girls who do not wish to stay LT.

As I understand it WC1, you do not target bar girls and so you are much more likely to be with women sourced from various media who are looking for a comfy bed for the night.

If you want her to stay and she is happy to do so then that's OK if that's what you want.

[Fastpiston]

Just to weigh in, I'm quite the opposite. When I get a bargirl, I want her well into the next morning. A bang in the evening, wake up to a slumbering beauty, a bang in the morning if I'm horny. Breakfast. A lazy morning and she's out the door.I agree, but with me, after a morning round, I would only offer breakfast if I see her as 1) a good performer and 2) an opportunity of getting more activity later.

[WestCoast1]

I agree, but with me, after a morning round, I would only offer breakfast if I see her as 1) a good performer and 2) an opportunity of getting more activity later.I intend to have breakfast with her from the moment I decide to barfine her. In addition to sex and photographing her, its part of my joy.

[Blanquiceleste]

I intend to have breakfast with her from the moment I decide to barfine her. In addition to sex and photographing her, its part of my joy.I always ask the girl I pick when she has eaten her last meal. Invariably these girls eat very little and eat poor quality food. So one draw for them to go out with a monger is the prospect of a decent meal. I always promise the girl a good meal. Nothing that costs the moon, but in the range of 500 to 700 peso for both me and the girl is what I budget for. But I am particular about finishing one round of hot steamy sex before a meal, because the food makes the girl sluggish. It also helps me build up an appetite and enjoy my meal better.

I always do a girl at least twice before letting her go, so the performance after the meal and a short snooze is very rewarding. In addition to food, I also tip girls well and get them chocolate sometimes. Word gets around, specially if you rely on FB to build your database.

[X Man]

I usually prefer to go out for food. Then there was that gal who asked for room service and we ate together completely naked. Room service isn't such a bad thing after all.


I always ask the girl I pick when she has eaten her last meal. Invariably these girls eat very little and eat poor quality food. So one draw for them to go out with a monger is the prospect of a decent meal. I always promise the girl a good meal. Nothing that costs the moon, but in the range of 500 to 700 peso for both me and the girl is what I budget for. But I am particular about finishing one round of hot steamy sex before a meal, because the food makes the girl sluggish. It also helps me build up an appetite and enjoy my meal better.

I always do a girl at least twice before letting her go, so the performance after the meal and a short snooze is very rewarding. In addition to food, I also tip girls well and get them chocolate sometimes. Word gets around, specially if you rely on FB to build your database.

[WestCoast1]

I always ask the girl I pick when she has eaten her last meal. Invariably these girls eat very little and eat poor quality food. So one draw for them to go out with a monger is the prospect of a decent meal. I always promise the girl a good meal. Nothing that costs the moon, but in the range of 500 to 700 peso for both me and the girl is what I budget for. But I am particular about finishing one round of hot steamy sex before a meal, because the food makes the girl sluggish. It also helps me build up an appetite and enjoy my meal better.

I always do a girl at least twice before letting her go, so the performance after the meal and a short snooze is very rewarding. In addition to food, I also tip girls well and get them chocolate sometimes. Word gets around, specially if you rely on FB to build your database.In AC, I usually ask if they want a ChowKing or Jolli before heading to the room. In the morning I take them out for breakfast once I know I'm done sexing them.

[Cool]

I find the hotter chicks don't care about food. They don't want to waste 30-45 minutes to chow since they earn a lot of money and get nice tips. Beer lovers feel drinks and commission is greater than food.

[Cool]

Anyone ever bought a lady drink for a mute bar girl? How did it go?

[GoodEnough]

A few days ago, while picking up my car from a car detailing shop, I got into a 30 minute discussion with a guy sitting atop a beautifully maintained 17 year old Honda motorcycle. He said he was a commercial pilot, and until quite recently had worked for Cebu Pacific flying the Airbus 320. He quit, he said, because the airline doesn't provide its pilots with rest periods that conform to international standards, and he felt this contributed to pilot fatigue and thus posed a danger to the flying public. He told me as well that he's interviewing this week with Asiana Airlines, which offers salaries three times higher than those of CP. On this topic, his final point, or actually advice was to spend the extra money and fly PAL, which does meet international standards As an analogy he compared pilots to surgeons and asked me how comfortable I would be if I knew my operation was in the hands of a tired surgeon.

Our conversation drifted into a general discussion of air traffic safety in the Philippines, which helped to confirm my prior biases. I asked if it were true that there are no airports in all of Mindanao equipped with flight radars, and he responded in the affirmative. Even Cebu, he said, has only an approach radar which is misused as the airport authorities also use it to control the flight paths of planes beyond the designed radar ranges. In addition, he said, the radars in Manila and Cebu are both old, and do not incorporate current technology. When I asked him how planes flying under no radar coverage cope, he said pilots do it "the old fashioned way," by calculating speed, altitude and direction. To be fair, he also indicated that the avionics technology in newer aircraft is so sophisticated that it doesn't have to rely on instructions derived from external radars. The problem he said, is that if the onboard technology fails, absent adequate external coverage, planes could be placed in great danger. When I asked him how the government could permit the perpetuation of such an inadequate system he responded that it refuses to upgrade to the standards of other countries because of the onboard sophistication of flight systems.

Finally, he confirmed to me the truth of what I had read in a recent IATA report; that the holding patterns forced upon pilots waiting to land in Manila were dangerous. He said that such patterns require an extremely high level of concentration on the part of the pilots.

I pass a summary of our conversation on because I felt that the guy knew what he was talking about and because it deepens my concerns about flying here, particularly with Cebu Pacific.

GE.

[Ms Account]

Finally, he confirmed to me the truth of what I had read in a recent IATA report; that the holding patterns forced upon pilots waiting to land in Manila were dangerous. He said that such patterns require an extremely high level of concentration on the part of the pilots.

I pass a summary of our conversation on because I felt that the guy knew what he was talking about and because it deepens my concerns about flying here, particularly with Cebu Pacific.
GE.In the last 3 years I have had approx. 100 landings (domestic and international) into Manila / Cebu / Davao. Of those 3 were aborted landings / fly arounds (one each in Manila / Cebu / Davao). In a 2000+ lifetime of flights I have never had an aborted landing other than the 3 in Philippines. In the Manila and Cebu aborted landings, the pilot came on the speaker and said there was a plane on the runway. The Davao aborted landing was a genuine case where there was a thunderstorm and visibility was so poor the pilot stuffed up the approach.

GE my understanding is that you are flying twice a week; are you experiencing these aborted landings or I am just statistically unlucky? Can't be a good sign significant instances of aborted landings because a plane is still on the runway!

As regards CP, I couldn't believe what the CEO said when they had the disaster at T3 a few years ago when 2/3 rds of the check in staff pulled a sicky (it was easter from memory). His comment to the press was that he had outsourced check in so it wasn't his problem. The performance of their website is also a bad sign. I am sick of seeing the yellow circles flashing on the screen for minutes.

[GoodEnough]

I had an aborted take off last year. As we were accelerating to take off speed, the brakes were suddenly slammed on, with the explanation that another plane, heading in the opposite direction in the single runway, was landing. Then, about two years ago, also on CP, we were diverted to Clark because planes were stacked so deep over Manila that the pilot had insufficient fuel to wait for our turn. I insisted in getting off the plane in Clark and grabbed a ride to Manila the next morning. I was also on a flight during which the pilot announced, in a thoroughly disgusted voice, that our takeoff would be further delayed because "some VIP" insisted on landing his helicopter before any other flights were allowed to access the runway.

I actually thought that the CP disaster to which you referred happened in Davao as we had what sounds like an identical disaster here. In our case, both pilots left the plane well prior to the evacuation of passengers, and fled to the terminal. I think passengers, once they exited the plane had to wait 30-45 minutes before emergency crews showed up. I was not on that flight.

I've resolved to avoid flying CP to the fullest extent possible, and further resolved to avoid NAIA for international flights if I can. I'm going to Bangkok in July and have decided to take the Silk Air flight from Davao to Singapore, stay overnight and grab a Thai Air flight to Bangkok just to avoid Manila. It's worth it just for the peace of mind. I did experience a CP flight to Bangkok 6-8 months ago from Manila and it was a thoroughly unpleasant experience.

GE.


In the last 3 years I have had approx. 100 landings (domestic and international) into Manila / Cebu / Davao. Of those 3 were aborted landings / fly arounds (one each in Manila / Cebu / Davao). In a 2000+ lifetime of flights I have never had an aborted landing other than the 3 in Philippines. In the Manila and Cebu aborted landings, the pilot came on the speaker and said there was a plane on the runway. The Davao aborted landing was a genuine case where there was a thunderstorm and visibility was so poor the pilot stuffed up the approach.

GE my understanding is that you are flying twice a week; are you experiencing these aborted landings or I am just statistically unlucky? Can't be a good sign significant instances of aborted landings because a plane is still on the runway!

As regards CP, I couldn't believe what the CEO said when they had the disaster at T3 a few years ago when 2/3 rds of the check in staff pulled a sicky (it was easter from memory). His comment to the press was that he had outsourced check in so it wasn't his problem. The performance of their website is also a bad sign. I am sick of seeing the yellow circles flashing on the screen for minutes.

[MS Clive]

I find the hotter chicks don't care about food. They don't want to waste 30-45 minutes to chow since they earn a lot of money and get nice tips. Beer lovers feel drinks and commission is greater than food.Counterpoint: I find that these girls do not eat 2-3 meals each day. Often only 1 meal a day. Break bread with them for US $ 3 and they will give you great service. Much better ROI than a lady drink can. I am a big GFE person and not just looking to nail the next hottie.

[MrWoolyBooly]

I wish, the experienced and senior ones would be kind enough to help the new ones and juniors and therefore, this is where the sight could be of relevance.For the true newbie on a temporary stay, there are two approaches to the ladies that work every time. (Practical travel advice is omitted, because it's widely available online and not the focus of this site).

Approach 1:

- In Metro Manila stay in any hotel on or near Burgos St. Starting around 6 pm, just walk up and down Burgos and nearby Makati Ave. You are guaranteed to find satisfaction available either on the street or in any bar you enter on Burgos. (In Pampanga, stay on or near Fields in Angeles City. I've only been there a couple times, but it's as reliable as Burgos and generally costs less.) Exact prices are reported almost weekly on this forum.

Approach 2:

- About a week before visiting the Philippines (and any time you have time on your hands in country) send messages to any girls you like in the place you will visit with the basic facts on all the main sites: FilipinaCupid, Date in Asia, Tagged, Facebook, wherever. "I will be visiting the Philippines February 30 and hope to meet somebody for (fill in the blank according to your goals). May I text you when I arrive?" Send messages like that until you get about 3 x as many contacts as you could possibly meet. You can chat more if you enjoy chatting. Then schedule the ladies and make backup plans for the ones that don't work out.

It really is that easy. It can't be any simpler. There are all kinds of personal goals we can set to make it more challenging, but no foreign male with a little money or a little charm ever needs to go without in the Philippines. If you have any specific questions beyond these basics, please do ask. Also, please do contribute information from whatever part of the world you know best, and then field reports from your visit to the Philippines. As always, I ask the more experienced members to correct or clarify any poor advice I give.

[Fastpiston]

Deutsche Bank has just issued an international survey on the costs of a cheap date defined as "cab rides, dinner / lunch for two at a pub or diner, soft drinks, two movie tickets and a couple of beers". A selection of results are: Manila US 4. 90, Mumbai US 4. 20, Kuala Lumpur US 4. 10 and Jakarta US 3. 90.

[Pute Nut]

It's understandable that DB is looking for cheap dates, since they seem to be a bit tight for cash (offering 5% to Belgian depositors now).


Deutsche Bank has just issued an international survey on the costs of a cheap date defined as "cab rides, dinner / lunch for two at a pub or diner, soft drinks, two movie tickets and a couple of beers". A selection of results are: Manila US 4. 90, Mumbai US 4. 20, Kuala Lumpur US 4. 10 and Jakarta US 3. 90.

[Blanquiceleste]

Deutsche Bank has just issued an international survey on the costs of a cheap date defined as "cab rides, dinner / lunch for two at a pub or diner, soft drinks, two movie tickets and a couple of beers". A selection of results are: Manila US 4. 90, Mumbai US 4. 20, Kuala Lumpur US 4. 10 and Jakarta US 3. 90.Really? $4. 90 is roughly 230 peso. A cab ride, dinner for two, soft drinks, movie tickets for two, and a couple of beers. All in 230 peso. Seems a bit out of whack. No wonder the bank is struggling to stay afloat.

[Blanquiceleste]

Counterpoint: I find that these girls do not eat 2-3 meals each day. Often only 1 meal a day. Break bread with them for US $ 3 and they will give you great service. Much better ROI than a lady drink can. I am a big GFE person and not just looking to nail the next hottie.I agree 100% here. I remember a hot chick I had picked from a bar on Fields in my last trip (reported on the appropriate thread) who wanted only ST. I simply had to shag this stunning girl so I said yes. As we walked back I asked her if she was hungry and she said no. So we got to the room and fucked like bunnies. After the deed I asked again if she would like to order some room service. This time she said yes and called for a beef nilaga with rice and I watched in amazement as she polished it off. After that she changed her mind and stayed all night. Should I mention that we had a great time? Maybe it wasn't the food and just my bedroom skills.

[Hutsori]

Really? $4. 90 is roughly 230 peso. A cab ride, dinner for two, soft drinks, movie tickets for two, and a couple of beers. All in 230 peso. Seems a bit out of whack. No wonder the bank is struggling to stay afloat.I looked at the article on the Telegraph's site. The graph says Manila is $11.60, about p540. A McDo cheeseburger value meal is about p100 per person. One taxi ride is p70 - p100. You can see a film at a good cinema for p200 per person. Drinks after at a cheap Filipino bar for about p40 per bottle, but no pulutan. That's p750 - 780. I guess the researcher found a cheap cinema. The lowest price I ever paid for a ticket was p70 IIRC, which was a surprise. BTW, the same DB survey the year prior priced Manila at $26, http://www.ibtimes.com/cheap-date-index-2014-deutsche-bank-shows-where-you-can-save-most-dates-globally-1583033. I reckon the researchers then were much more extravagant.

[BrainDrain]

Deutsche Bank has just issued an international survey on the costs of a cheap date defined as "cab rides, dinner / lunch for two at a pub or diner, soft drinks, two movie tickets and a couple of beers". A selection of results are: Manila US 4. 90, Mumbai US 4. 20, Kuala Lumpur US 4. 10 and Jakarta US 3. 90.Well it's good to see that a date includes the taxi ride home.

Shouldn't a date in Manila also include the barfine?

[Dark Knight1]

Finally, here's proof that women do not appreciate being subjected to catcalls, wolf whistles and other gestures meant to extol their looks from men on the streets, and in fact find them threatening and demeaning.

Such acts long considered by most men as public expressions of interest and admiration for women are now considered crimes with corresponding fines and a possible jail term for offenders in Quezon City.

Quezon City Mayor Herbert Bautista has signed into law the city's amended gender and development code, also known as the anti-catcalling ordinance, which imposes a fine and jail term for acts considered as sexual harassment of women in public spaces.

The law made Quezon City the first local government in the country to penalize the street-level harassment of women.

"The primary objective is to change the cultural mindset of males toward females. Women are not sex objects. This is to empower women at the same time," Bautista said of the law that would "supplement other national laws that protect the interest of women. "

Among those laws is the Anti-Sexual Harassment Act of 1995 that criminalizes unwanted sexual attention and conditional sexual favors from persons of authority in the workplace, training venues and educational institutions.

The anti-catcalling ordinance introduced by QC Councilor Lena Marie Juico was approved by the City Council on March 7 and signed into law by Bautista on May 16.

Under the measure, light violations, such as cursing, catcalling, repeatedly asking the subject for a date or her contact number, or taunting a woman with constant talk about sex, are punishable with a fine of from P1,000 to P5,000 or a jail term of up to one month.

Stalking, making offensive mouth, hand or body gestures with the intention to demean or threaten a woman are considered medium violations with the same range of penalties.

Severe violations carry a fine of P3,000 to P5,000 or a jail term of from one month to one year.

These include unnecessary touching, pinching or brushing against the subject's body; public masturbation or lascivious exhibition directed at a woman, and inserting any object into the genitalia, anus or mouth of any person whether of the same or opposite sex.

Bautista said the penalties were the maximum allowed under the Local Government Code.

Women offended by the cited violations may file a complaint in the women's desk that are now part of police precincts. The amendments to Quezon City's gender and development code were introduced after a memorandum of understanding with the United Nations Entity for Gender Equality and the Empowerment of Women (UN Women), which chose Quezon City as one of the pilot areas for its Safe Cities and Safe Public Spaces Initiative.

[Member #4422]

Hi all,

A guy tell me it's possible to found girls for 50 pesos at AC, in the street, but they are drug addict, grannies, is it real?

[Sxxxx]

Hi all,

A guy tell me it's possible to found girls for 50 pesos at AC, in the street, but they are drug addict, grannies, is it real?Dear manager,

Please pay the $20 = PM facility, for the exclusive info you are seeking.

But I do remember in 1974 paying $25 (P200 for my currency) for all night street pussy. Adjust for inflation over the last 42 yrs.

P50 should get you a kick in the balls, LOL.

[Hutsori]

Hi all,

A guy tell me it's possible to found girls for 50 pesos at AC, in the street, but they are drug addict, grannies, is it real?That would be the drug-addicted toothless grannies. The ones with teeth are even cheaper. Ah, the joys of smoking shabu whilst a toothless octogenarian gums my knob. Pure class.

[X Man]

I remember that girl. Fairly young, but missing some teeth. She'd take you down an alley and get on her knees. She'd ask you to watch out for police. Lots of noisy slurping. Apparently it's easy to lose a wallet when you spend a bit of time with your trousers hanging around your ankles. And if your trousers are around your ankles, it's especially hard to chase a gal who spits out your junk and starts running. Duh.


Hi all,

A guy tell me it's possible to found girls for 50 pesos at AC, in the street, but they are drug addict, grannies, is it real?

[Dg8787]

Hi all,

A guy tell me it's possible to found girls for 50 pesos at AC, in the street, but they are drug addict, grannies, is it real?There is the older gal that stands in front of the 7-11 every night. She usually comes out around 8:00 pm. If your are handsome she might give you some change back for your 50 pesos.

[WestCoast1]

Recent exchange rate on the USD: $1 = p46.55. I also got p46.5 recently at a Burgos street changer.

[Dg8787]

I thought I would write about it now.

I was sitting on the outside tables of Banana Leaf restaurant in Ayala Mall, Cebu. It was around 5 pm and they had not open yet. A nice slim busty girl approached me and sat down next to me. We conversed for a few minutes and made an arrangement for 1. 5 k. She agreed to a one hour massage before and another massage after the act. BBBJ and BBFS included if I like that. It was like making a bundled deal as I kept throwing in extras. She just seemed too agreeable.

She didn't like sitting out in the open and wanted to go inside because this "store clerk" didn't want to get recognized by any coworkers. She was hungry so we went to Jollibee and she wanted takeout and to eat in the room. No problem my hotel was nearby. I told her she would need to show her ID and she said she had it. I asked to see it and it was kind of blurred and laminated. It looked a little suspicious but who knows how things are done the Philippines. Funny things was she didn't want to get recognized but held my hand all the way to Jollibee.

We walked to the hotel and she left her ID with the security. During the walk to the hotel she made a few texts and a phone call. I guess to tell someone where she was going. We ate dinner. Here is where it gets interesting. I ask her to take a shower and she said later after the massage. I ask her to take her clothes off and she is only down to her bra and panty. I am a little suspicious now as how is this going to work? Is she going to ruin the moment by taking a shower after giving me a sensual massage?

I ask her again to take off her bra and panty and she said no and why? I then said I wanted give an inspection of her pussy to make sure it was ok, no warts or discharges. She got or acted offended and said that no one has ever asked her that and we have condoms. There was silence for about 20 seconds and finally I said get dressed and I will give you 500 for your time. I thought this is where the shit would hit the fan but she got dressed in silence. I walked her down to release her ID.

Now she seemed like a nice 21 yo store clerk and very well could have been. But I am in no great physical shape nor FL experienced like Mr. E. This girl just raised too many small red flags for me. Also it helped that I had already had 2 pops earlier and my penis wasn't doing all the thinking.

It could have all gone well but I error on the caution side. I find procuring FL is a little stressful and of no assurances. Of course this could have happened anywhere.

There is one thing I do like about the bars in AC and in Subic the girls are identified by the bar and have some what of a health check. You can do an interview by buying a LD and get all the questions out of the way. Nothing beats this delivery system.

Let's be a little careful out there, especially if you are inexperienced with FL.

[Red Kilt]

It could have all gone well but I error on the caution side. I find procuring FL is a little stressful and of no assurances. Of course this could have happened anywhere.
. . . . .

Let's be a little careful out there, especially if you are inexperienced with FL.Before everyone else jumps in with advice for you Dg, let me say "good for you".

Your radar picked up on a potential problem so you nipped it off before it could get out of hand.

At least she went quietly when you asked her to get dressed, which probably means she was OK. That's the point at which (as you said) the sh. Usually hits the fan.

[Roll Aides]

Before everyone else jumps in with advice for you Dg, let me say "good for you".

Your radar picked up on a potential problem so you nipped it off before it could get out of hand.

At least she went quietly when you asked her to get dressed, which probably means she was OK. That's the point at which (as you said) the sh. Usually hits the fan.Couldn't agree more. IMO the ability to gracefully pull the plug on an encounter the minute any red flags come up, is probably the single most important safety and quality-assurance tactic a monger can have. Includes hearing the word "no" to any reasonable request, or previously agreed to activity. The situation NEVER gets better from there.

Actually that probably goes for women in general, not just working girls.

Anyway, good report DG.

To paraphrase Kenny Loggins.

Every monger knows.

The secret to survival.

Is knowing what to throw away.

Knowing what to keep.

[X Man]

I thought that was Kenny Rogers.


Couldn't agree more. IMO the ability to gracefully pull the plug on an encounter the minute any red flags come up, is probably the single most important safety and quality-assurance tactic a monger can have. Includes hearing the word "no" to any reasonable request, or previously agreed to activity. The situation NEVER gets better from there.

Actually that probably goes for women in general, not just working girls.

Anyway, good report DG.

To paraphrase Kenny Loggins.

Every monger knows.

The secret to survival.

Is knowing what to throw away.

Knowing what to keep.

[Blanquiceleste]

I thought that was Kenny Rogers.Yep! Kenny Rogers. The Gambler.

You've got to know when to hold 'them.

Know when to fold 'them.

Know when to walk away.

And know when to run.

[Wicked Roger]

I thought I would write about it now.

I was sitting on the outside tables of Banana Leaf restaurant in Ayala Mall, Cebu.
It could have all gone well but I error on the caution side. I find procuring FL is a little stressful and of no assurances. Of course this could have happened anywhere.

There is one thing I do like about the bars in AC and in Subic the girls are identified by the bar and have some what of a health check. You can do an interview by buying a LD and get all the questions out of the way. Nothing beats this delivery system.

Let's be a little careful out there, especially if you are inexperienced with FL.I concur with Red Kilt with the way you handled it.

But, are you sure it was ot a LB as there a few busty LBs who walk the circuit in Ayala IE past Banana Leaf up the escalator past Bos Coffee down the escalator and past Seattle. I see them a lot and they hang o the balcony outside Bos sometimes. Plus they regularly go to Bos and at times make a lot of noise (as in "look at me I am a LB with fake boobs") and a few times feel each others boobs and get them out.

So am not sating this is a LB DG as we know each other well and our tastes but at times we can be fooled by the better looking ones. One of this group regularly posts on Facebook and has many male admirers ho have no idea she is a a he with plastic surgery etc. Her friends (straight and real girls before anyone thinks otherwise) who I know confirm she fools a lot of westerners who can believe such a 'hot girl' would do anal with them only.

However that said for me, what you did about remover the panties was correct, you want to check and when there is a refusal I am on automatic red alert.

So well done my friend and well handled.

[Member #4566]

I thought I would write about it now.

I ask her again to take off her bra and panty and she said no and why?

Let's be a little careful out there, especially if you are inexperienced with FL.I wasn't there. I didn't meet this girl. I did not feel the same vibes that you did. Yet there was an earlier time when I would have sent a girl away that now I understand would have required more patience. One night you meet a girl who gives you porn star experience (PSE) and the next night you meet one whom you have to give lessons on BJ technique. The lesson that I learned was that all of these girls are different and I have to respond to each one differently. I mean the hallmark of the Philipina is that she is personable and gives you girlfriend experience (GFE). The trade-off is that they have more personality than the mechanical working girls you encounter in the fishbowls in Seoul and you need to individually tailor your response to them.

[Socker]

I ask her again to take off her bra and panty and she said no and why? I then said I wanted give an inspection of her pussy to make sure it was ok, no warts or discharges. She got or acted offended and said that no one has ever asked her that and we have condoms..Your response here was a bit clinical and could be taken offensively by a semi pro or ordinary lady. So it sounds like she was a semi pro trying to work 2 jobs in the same area and very paranoid about doing it.

My new mo when dealing w / these massage FLs is I get there sales pitch, massage sir, and immediately turn the conversation to sex. My sales pitch; a massage just makes me horny so lets just skip the massage part, how much for sex?

(We all know they ladies are lousy masseuses so why bother, their massage route is a ploy to earn money as a hooker. I let them pretend for a minute or two and then say, how much for that pretty little pussy of yours?

So if I were in your shoes I would have her bra and panties off when I want them off and in a pure sexual way. If she played games like in your case I would have done the same thing, nip it in the bud but not because I could not do an examination of her private parts.

It would be nipped because she wasn't performing as promised. If we agreed to have sex then I'll take off the bra and panties as I progress through the session. I like working a nice body w under garments attached slowly unwrapping my toy.

I think you did the right thing but maybe not in the best way and if she was a LB you would have had big problems stopping a session as you did, or any way. They don't go quietly!


Now she seemed like a nice 21 yo store clerk and very well could have been. Yeah, my advice is if you want a massage go and get a professional one. The massage hookers in The freelance realm are a waste of time, providing horrible massages. I think your situation would have had a completely different outcome, just hire them to fuck.

Thanks for putting your broken session on the board. I have had many broken sessions, hell I tell them to leave if they're boring. LOL, I'm an easy barfine for them.

All the best.

[Mr Enternational]

I'm with WR. It could have been an LB. Even if the chick is shy she is still going to take off her bra. Dg you did the right thing though. The only thing I would have done differently is that I would not have given her 500 pesos. That is a lot of money. I have fucked chicks for that amount. And you had already paid for food so I would have just said get out. But I think the 500 is probably why you did not have any problems; because she realized it was a lot of money for doing nothing.

You were right to want to inspect. I had a Russian midget come over to my place in Pattaya last month. She got undressed and I started trying to finger her from the back and felt a lot of bumps between her ass and pussy. When I asked her what it was she started saying what, what. Then I said let me see and she got up and started getting dressed. I was not letting her off so easy though so I told her to take her shirt and bra back off and I came down her throat before sending her away. That was a close call.

[Dg8787]

Thanks for the replies.

I am pretty sure she was not a LB. She carried on many conversations in a lady voice. When she held my hand her hand was pretty small with very slender fingers. Her feet were small too. She was less than 5 feet tall and always looked up when she talked without worrying about any Adam's apple. But then again who really knows without checking the goods?

She was either offended by my request or she really had something to hide, whether it was std or?

All terms of our agreement was done at the table within 5 minutes. The deal included full service.

In all of my Phil experiences I have never had a girl refuse to shower and they always requested I shower too. Usually they shower first. This was a red flag to me.

Mr. E, like I said I do not have your physical stature nor do I have your FL street smart experience. When she got to my room she made one more text, I assumed she texted my room number either for her protection or for something sinister. I opt out for 500 pesos plus the cost of Jollibee see-1 menu item of 82 pesos. As some may know the resolution fee would have been much higher if there was a disturbance or even worst false accusations made.

Btw, I held the 500 peso in my hand openly and didn't give it to her until we were out of the room and I closed the door. Also she still had her ID with security and the security guy acknowledged me on the way in along with other staff. I always prime the staff with drinks or small tips.

My major concern is to not get any std and to not pass it on unknowingly to some of the regular girls that I see. In Cebu I have a rotation of 5 girls plus a new one this time of a 19 yo. One of the regulars asked if she could bring a new friend with her. I graciously approved.

Like I said I already had 2 pops hours before and was able to think with the big head.

Take care guys.

[WestCoast1]

Some more inbound-Rody stuff:

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/most-dangerous-place-world-whole-180154451.html

[BrainDrain]

On my last trip to Ayala Cebu one afternoon about 7 pm I walked past to see some stunning girls sitting there. Needless to say I couldn't ogle them as they were too keen to make eye contact. I purchased a beverage and sat down strategically. My hunch was correct that they were LB. Just too well dressed for an Ayala pickup.

[Dg8787]

Can't believe it!

I am on 6:00 pm flight out of Cebu and we are fully boarded at 5:30 pm. Plane is full and we started boarding at 5:20 and everyone is in their seats. Plane doors are closed.

[X Man]

Holy Shmolly! That's fantastic.

Somehow I feel you will later tell us that neither the inbound nor the outbound airport is / was Manila.


Can't believe it!

I am on 6:00 pm flight out of Cebu and we are fully boarded at 5:30 pm. Plane is full and we started boarding at 5:20 and everyone is in their seats. Plane doors are closed.

[Wicked Roger]

On my last trip to Ayala Cebu one afternoon about 7 pm I walked past to see some stunning girls sitting there. Needless to say I couldn't ogle them as they were too keen to make eye contact. I purchased a beverage and sat down strategically. My hunch was correct that they were LB. Just too well dressed for an Ayala pickup.BD,

That group is well known. They are the ones I referred to in an earlier FR re boobs out, lots of noise, one is a well known even has a youtube saying "I am xxxxx but I was born with a different name and gender" etc.

They go into Watsons next door for free hair curl and some make up before hitting the clubs and finding some unsuspecting guy to offer a BBBJ and Greek to LOL.

Once I saw one of them meet an older western man by the entrance to mall at Bos and looked genuinely happy likely thinking "wow I scored a stunner" I said to my friend she will be back in less than 10 minutes and 6 minutes later she reappeared when the man must have realized that she was really a he.

So be careful put there.

[Dg8787]

Holy Shmolly! That's fantastic.

Somehow I feel you will later tell us that neither the inbound nor the outbound airport is / was Manila.True, Manila was not involved to my knowledge. But still Cebu Pacific!

[WestCoast1]

Once I saw one of them meet an older western man by the entrance to mall at Bos and looked genuinely happy likely thinking "wow I scored a stunner" I said to my friend she will be back in less than 10 minutes and 6 minutes later she reappeared when the man must have realized that she was really a he.

So be careful put there.Haha WR, I know just the one's you're talking about. Lookers, aren't they? 4-5 of them that hang as a group.

[Mr Enternational]

Waiting on my flight to PI and scrolling through some dating profiles. What is up with the crazy ugly ass moles that some of the Pinays have on their faces? One chick has one right below her nose at the edge of her top lip. Another has one on her forehead. I don't see anything like this in other countries. Or am I just not noticing it in other places?

[The Cane]

Waiting on my flight to PI and scrolling through some dating profiles. What is up with the crazy ugly ass moles that some of the Pinays have on their faces? One chick has one right below her nose at the edge of her top lip. Another has one on her forehead. I don't see anything like this in other countries. Or am I just not noticing it in other places?I went out with this Russian chick a couple of times, and she had a mole on one of her eyelids. So every time she would blink, I would see that mole! You never realize how often human beings naturally blink until you're looking at one with a mole on an eyelid LOL! I didn't go out with her for a third time for a variety of reasons. The distracting mole on her eyelid was one of them hahahaha!

[WestCoast1]

Waiting on my flight to PI and scrolling through some dating profiles. What is up with the crazy ugly ass moles that some of the Pinays have on their faces? One chick has one right below her nose at the edge of her top lip. Another has one on her forehead. I don't see anything like this in other countries. Or am I just not noticing it in other places?I've noticed it a lot in Mexico. You see a lot of moles above the neck, whereas I don't see them north of the border. Also seen in phils (even more), and somewhat in Indonesia. I would guess it has something to do with the tropical weather and lifestyle.

Also see the past discussions (long time ago) we have discussed pinays oddly-shapen feet / toes / hands / fingers, that seem to have too much mileage on them (I find that similar to Latinas).

[Dg8787]

I once was seeing this Filipina who had 3 moles on her face which did not look nice at all. Seeing mole removal is relatively inexpensive in Phil I offered to pay for them to be removed. She looked at my like I was crazy! She explained that to Filipinos moles were signs of good luck and success. She declined my offer with a look that could kill.

[X Man]

Waiting on my flight to PI and scrolling through some dating profiles. What is up with the crazy ugly ass moles that some of the Pinays have on their faces? One chick has one right below her nose at the edge of her top lip. Another has one on her forehead. I don't see anything like this in other countries. Or am I just not noticing it in other places?Kiss that mole like it's a third nipple. She'll love you for it.

[BrainDrain]

Can't believe it!

I am on 6:00 pm flight out of Cebu and we are fully boarded at 5:30 pm. Plane is full and we started boarding at 5:20 and everyone is in their seats. Plane doors are closed.Enjoy that early flight. My last Cebu to MNL flight was three hours late before they would even board us.

[Wicked Roger]

Enjoy that early flight. My last Cebu to MNL flight was three hours late before they would even board us.Always try and get the very early morning flights to Manila from Cebu. Less chance Manila airport will ground the plane due to congestion at the worlds worst airport. By 10 am the traffic in Manila is getting bad and this delays many flights. Couple with the antiquated systems and 1 runway effectively, by mid afternoon flights can be a few hours delayed.

Talking to one of my Cebu Pacific cuties (ground crew) she said Cebu Pac's management is not great either in being firm with telling the passengers it is not its fault. When she does say this is all the cause of Manila many don't believe her! She has faced a number of irate people due to delays etc which are nothing to with the airline but all to do with Manila airport. So I take the earlier flights as less chance I will be messed up (and I find the taxi situation (aka farce) at T3 to be better in the morning).

[WestCoast1]

Enjoy that early flight. My last Cebu to MNL flight was three hours late before they would even board us.And in the completely opposite vein. Recently my CP flight (T3) was scheduled for 12:15 pm. To be safe, I left the hotel at 9:15 am (Makati), arriving 9:50 am at T3.

An aside: Outside T3, the CP entrance had a HUGE line, while the PAL entrance had a tiny line; I waltzed right thru the PAL entrance security checkpoint. Can all the rest of those people with CP itineraries be dumb enough to join that long, long line just because they are CP customers? Yes, yes they can. I showed the security guy at the door my passport and CP itinerary and asked if it was OK for CP customers to come thru at this checkpoint: "Yes sir".

My queue for my outbound province flight was empty (amazing), and I checked in and got a boarding pass right away. I bounced around upstairs in the foods area for a bit before heading thru the security checkpoint to the gate. On my boarding pass it showed gate 132, boarding 11:30. I showed at my gate at 11:10 to find it empty of customers. I checked the monitor, which showed my gate now as 133. At 133, the sign had a different province. I asked the CP girl at the counter where my flight was, and she said it was changed from 132 to 133, then back to 132 (still empty). I pointed out to the CP agent at 133 that 132 was empty, and the monitor still showed my flight at 133, to board in 10 minutes. She seemed confused. "It cannot be". The monitor was down the hall, and she sent another CP agent to check the monitor, which was still showing 133. Keystrokes on their computer. Suddenly over the PA system: "Westy's flight will board in a moment at gate 134". Both the CP lady and myself looked over to 134, where the sign showed yet *another* province (not mine). The crowd for my flight had been waiting at 134 and began lining up.

None of that makes any logical sense. The only good news is that the flight was ON TIME, and boarding started a few minutes early. Suddenly the CP lady said: "Yes. 134 now. Boarding now, departing 12:05 pm". Wait, when I checked in, the flight time was 12:15. Now 12:05? "Yes sir". You moved a flight time (and boarding) UP? "Yes sir they did". That just never happens, and you run the risk of late-arriving passengers, who would have previously made the 12:15 flight, missing their flight if you move the time up to 12:05. "Oh. Yes. I see it". Amazing. By 11:20 they were boarding my flight, at a gate that you could only be at if you listened to the (nearly indecipherable) PA system. While the flight was on time (well, we boarded on time and pushed back, only to sit idling for 20+ minutes for ground traffic -- the pilot reported too many aircraft waiting for takeoff), the large monitor and the gate computers were not in sync, the gate agent could not correctly pinpoint a gate, and *none* of the gates showed my province as the destination.

Welcome to it!

[Simmer]

Wait, when I checked in, the flight time was 12:15. Now 12:05? "Yes sir". You moved a flight time (and boarding) UP? "Yes sir they did". That just never happens, and you run the risk of late-arriving passengers, who would have previously made the 12:15 flight, missing their flight if you move the time up to 12:05. That happened to me for the first time ever last year. And on a Delta flight from MNL to NRT. When I checked in the flight was to leave at 10:30 am IIRC; later, after security, I checked the monitors again and it said 10:15 am. Checked my paperwork: 10:30 am. Checked the monitors: 10:15 am. And it really did leave the gate by 10:20. Bizarre!

I've been on a plane that *departed* 15 minutes early. But everybody was aboard the half empty flight expeditiously and crew and ATC were happy for us to push back and go.

[Buko Max]

That happened to me for the first time ever last year. And on a Delta flight from MNL to NRT.Sometimes Delta will move up the departure if bad weather is expected in Japan. Happened to me last year as well. They notified me via email that the flight would leave a hour early. Always check your email and / or provide the airlines with your local number!

[Simmer]

Sometimes Delta will move up the departure if bad weather is expected in Japan. Happened to me last year as well. They notified me via email that the flight would leave a hour early. Always check your email and / or provide the airlines with your local number!That makes sense, re weather. In this case though the time was moved up between check-in and departure, ie less than a couple of hours before the flight when I was already at the airport. I guess dealing with a couple of late passengers is easier / cheaper than what might happen if the plane left on time and suffered domino effect take-off, en-route, or landing delays. It's all very well turning up at the airport 3 hours before the flight with good intentions, only to be scuppered by abnormally long check-in or security delays! And with Delta, at least, you can't do online check-in for US destinations if you have a green card. Or couldn't 18 months ago anyway.

[Cbear13]

So I been on this form for almost 10 years now. I was told about it my first trip to the Manila to see my ex wife. I didn't get to have much fun there then. Well fast forward to now. My friend just got dumped before his wedding and is crushed. So I figured a sex trip would work best for him. Now I do all my trips in Colombia and Dominican Republic. I just got back from 11 days in the DR.

I just booked a beach house from Dec 28 till January 4th over in Cebu. I am wondering if anybody can help me find six working girls that we can take with us there. I been reading all the reports about Cebu today, and it sounds like it is a bit hard to barfine women there now. So I am looking for six girls. Will pay for all their expenses to Cebu, and pay them 2000 pesos a day.

If anybody can help me get this setup ahead of time would be great.

Thanks

[Mr Enternational]

I just booked a beach house from Dec 28 till January 4th over in Cebu. I am wondering if anybody can help me find six working girls that we can take with us there. I been reading all the reports about Cebu today, and it sounds like it is a bit hard to barfine women there now. So I am looking for six girls. Will pay for all their expenses to Cebu, and pay them 2000 pesos a day.You must realize how big Cebu is. In which part of Cebu are you renting this beach house? Not that I have any leads on women for you, but you must take this into account when trying to get someone to visit you there. I do predict though that this will be like herding cats. It is hard enough to get 1 to follow the plan exactly. Good luck with 6. And besides this, the days you have booked for is family time for Filipinos. Okay. One more thing. Planning to keep a hooker (or 6) that you have not met nor spent time with for a whole week, well...

[BaboyDave]

So I been on this form for almost 10 years now. I was told about it my first trip to the Manila to see my ex wife. I didn't get to have much fun there then. Well fast forward to now. My friend just got dumped before his wedding and is crushed. So I figured a sex trip would work best for him. Now I do all my trips in Colombia and Dominican Republic. I just got back from 11 days in the DR.

I just booked a beach house from Dec 28 till January 4th over in Cebu. I am wondering if anybody can help me find six working girls that we can take with us there. I been reading all the reports about Cebu today, and it sounds like it is a bit hard to barfine women there now. So I am looking for six girls. Will pay for all their expenses to Cebu, and pay them 2000 pesos a day.

If anybody can help me get this setup ahead of time would be great.

ThanksFrom my humble experience it is very very easy to get Angeles City / Manila bar girls to travel with you down south.

I have done so myself with both girls from Makati as well as girls from Angeles, I would even add that once we brought two non-working girls we just picked up at a night club, Filipinos are very much into the "Adventure", especially if a Caucasian man is involved.

On the other hand, I can't see how any of them would do so without knowing the guy taking them ahead of time. By know I mean at least chatting with him for a few hours online or spending an evening together, I am not familiar with the Cebu scene, however if you intend on bringing girls from elsewhere, I would suggest you visit that destination even for just a night or two, so that you can pick the girls up. Angeles city would be easiest to retrieve a bunch from my experience, as they are all little mama sangs there.

Good luck,

D

[LifeIsABeach]

You must realize how big Cebu is. In which part of Cebu are you renting this beach house? Not that I have any leads on women for you, but you must take this into account when trying to get someone to visit you there. I do predict though that this will be like herding cats. It is hard enough to get 1 to follow the plan exactly. Good luck with 6. And besides this, the days you have booked for is family time for Filipinos. Okay. One more thing. Planning to keep a hooker (or 6) that you have not met nor spent time with for a whole week, well...Agree with Mr Enternational on herding the girls like cattle. First, they live further away from where they say. Next, they usually have no money to catch a cab or other transportation. Highly unlikely they will be on time if they decide to come as traffic is horrible and Cebu like rest of Philippines has bad infrastructure. I planned with 6 girls and was lucky to get 2 to meet me while in Cebu City. It is not hard to meet girls in Cebu City for 2000 pesos. Many available. Again, where is your beach house?

[Wicked Roger]

So I been on this form for almost 10 years now. I was told about it my first trip to the Manila to see my ex wife. I didn't get to have much fun there then. Well fast forward to now. My friend just got dumped before his wedding and is crushed. So I figured a sex trip would work best for him. Now I do all my trips in Colombia and Dominican Republic. I just got back from 11 days in the DR.

I just booked a beach house from Dec 28 till January 4th over in Cebu. I am wondering if anybody can help me find six working girls that we can take with us there. I been reading all the reports about Cebu today, and it sounds like it is a bit hard to barfine women there now. So I am looking for six girls. Will pay for all their expenses to Cebu, and pay them 2000 pesos a day.

If anybody can help me get this setup ahead of time would be great.

Thanks1. Its the holiday season.

2. Families come first despite any cash incentive.

3. If the girls don't know each other could e issues / drama / jealousy / shy.

4. If the girls do each other same issues as if don't know each other.

5. Plan ahead have at least double the girls saying yes as many will bail or as Mr E says they live Toledo, Bogo, Danao, Duma, Dalaguete, etc that takes time and money to get to Cebu (even if Mactan at the moment it is bad at times!

6. What about the pasalubongs as it is mas after all.

7. Where is the beach house. Mactan? As plan for the location, Going to Mactan on say Friday afternoon took me 90 minutes from Ayala! If Danao etc then plan for girls from that area.

8. Six girls presumably naked etc may raise eyebrow from locals especially if in the 'provinces'.

I went a friend's birthday party in AC ad his wife arranged 6 girls. She is pinay and wet to the bars got very easily and brought them to their hotel. Easy but that was AC, she was pinay and very bisexual and knew who she wanted as well. Cebu? Am sure you can but maybe you need to think about how you find.

I know a few members who have managed 4 at the same time, one old friend did this for 3 das but based in the center of town and he still got drama even though the girls knew each other.

[Cbear13]

Agree with Mr Enternational on herding the girls like cattle. First, they live further away from where they say. Next, they usually have no money to catch a cab or other transportation. Highly unlikely they will be on time if they decide to come as traffic is horrible and Cebu like rest of Philippines has bad infrastructure. I planned with 6 girls and was lucky to get 2 to meet me while in Cebu City. It is not hard to meet girls in Cebu City for 2000 pesos. Many available. Again, where is your beach house..Thanks for the heads up. I figured to try and find girls online also. Right now I have signed up for date in Asia. But most then girls seem like they want love. I attached a image of where I am staying.

[Cbear13]

1. Its the holiday season.

2. Families come first despite any cash incentive.

3. If the girls don't know each other could e issues / drama / jealousy / shy.

4. If the girls do each other same issues as if don't know each other.

5. Plan ahead have at least double the girls saying yes as many will bail or as Mr E says they live Toledo, Bogo, Danao, Duma, Dalaguete, etc that takes time and money to get to Cebu (even if Mactan at the moment it is bad at times!

6. What about the pasalubongs as it is mas after all.

7. Where is the beach house. Mactan? As plan for the location, Going to Mactan on say Friday afternoon took me 90 minutes from...Again thank you. This are things I have not thought of. If this was Colombia I would have this figured out and the girls with out a doubt. But since my friend is into Asian women this has become s bit harder. I have booked the place in Santander beach.

[Wicked Roger]

Again thank you. This are things I have not thought of. If this was Colombia I would have this figured out and the girls with out a doubt. But since my friend is into Asian women this has become s bit harder. I have booked the place in Santander beach.That is 'deep south" but OK for Oslob and the whale sharks.

As it is so far south, you should look for girls in that area so Dalaguete, Dumaguete, Valencia as these are closer towns. You have a cutie from say Danao. Liloan and she could see Santander (despite how nice it looks) being the other side of the world.

And it is Christmas.

But if all else fails and it seems very hard PM me I may have a suggestion (but don't do it at the last moment).

[Red Kilt]

8. Six girls presumably naked etc may raise eyebrow from locals especially if in the 'provinces'.

I went a friend's birthday party in AC ad his wife arranged 6 girls. She is pinay and wet to the bars got very easily and brought them to their hotel. Easy but that was AC, she was pinay and very bisexual and knew who she wanted as well. Cebu? Am sure you can but maybe you need to think about how you find.Nobody notices a guy with one girl (or even two), but when you start looking for six you run a big risk of being linked to "trafficking".

I would keep well away from trying to organize anything like this. JMHO knowing what the current mind-set of the public and LE is in Phils at the moment.

It's "shoot first and ask questions later".

[LifeIsABeach]

Thanks for the heads up. I figured to try and find girls online also. Right now I have signed up for date in Asia. But most then girls seem like they want love. I attached a image of where I am staying.You are staying at the south most tip of Cebu. No idea what happens there nor the p4 p scene. I may have gone there but can't remember if that was the place where I swam with the sharks. It was way south but I am not good with names. Enjoy.

[Wicked Roger]

Nobody notices a guy with one girl (or even two), but when you start looking for six you run a big risk of being linked to "trafficking".

I would keep well away from trying to organize anything like this. JMHO knowing what the current mind-set of the public and LE is in Phils at the moment.

It's "shoot first and ask questions later".Very good advice are and something I should have thought of as this is a provincial and 'remote' place not A/C where people tend not to worry as much IMHO. FYI the party was at night and the girls went home so there was never lots girls in the same place overnight. And not all day for a week. Am sure someone will put 2 and 2 and make 50 and then things can turn ugly and / or expensive.

Did same in the UAE but all 5 bisexual pinays (including sisters) went back to their respective rooms after the fun LOL.

[BrainDrain]

So I been on this form for almost 10 years now. I was told about it my first trip to the Manila to see my ex wife. I didn't get to have much fun there then. Well fast forward to now. My friend just got dumped before his wedding and is crushed. So I figured a sex trip would work best for him. Now I do all my trips in Colombia and Dominican Republic. I just got back from 11 days in the DR.

I just booked a beach house from Dec 28 till January 4th over in Cebu. I am wondering if anybody can help me find six working girls that we can take with us there. I been reading all the reports about Cebu today, and it sounds like it is a bit hard to barfine women there now. So I am looking for six girls. Will pay for all their expenses to Cebu, and pay them 2000 pesos a day.

If anybody can help me get this setup ahead of time would be great.

ThanksI've know two girls in AC who are leaders of their little packs. They are not bargirls or mamasans, just respected by their peers. So, they between them have:

A) Organised a party at Lewis Grand room.

B) Organised a party at ABC penthouse.

C) Organised half a bus load of girls to meet us (the other half the mini-bus) upon our flight arrival at NAIA.

D) Organised a mini pool party at my AC hotel.

So, as other people have said this stuff is easy to so in AC. It can certainly be done.

IME, better to have 1-2 leaders to be responsible for bringing in talent.

I would not lock anything in for the entire week. Maybe break it into thirds. Easier to extend than explain why girls leave early.

Consider putting some of your budget to actual staff girls, to do the errands, buy load, drinks, etc.

Seeing as you will be at Mactan, consider searching DIA etc on Lapu Lapu or Mactan instead of Cebu.

And, AC is just a flight away. I took my mate there.

BD.

[Mr Enternational]

But since my friend is into Asian women this has become s bit harder.Also good to figure out which type of Asian women your friend likes. Because if he likes them looking more like Koreans then PI is not the place to go. Most in PI lean more toward a smaller version of Pacific Islanders with a hint of Chinese than they do of what most people think of when they think Asian.

[D Cups]

I doubt you will find any P4 P in South Cebu so bring your own or screen the websites for the few profiles of girls that live in that area. Take the ferry to Dumaguete and you will do a little better.


Again thank you. This are things I have not thought of. If this was Colombia I would have this figured out and the girls with out a doubt. But since my friend is into Asian women this has become s bit harder. I have booked the place in Santander beach..

[Roll Aides]

IME, better to have 1-2 leaders to be responsible for bringing in talent.
....
Consider putting some of your budget to actual staff girls, to do the errands, buy load, drinks, etc.
This. You need someone on the ground doing the work if you want to pull it off, getting one Pinay do do anything is a logistical headache, rounding up six of them is like a fucking moon landing. Not that it can't be done, but you personally are not going to do it from your keyboard without help, unless that becomes your day job, and even then. Enlist help. Best of luck.

[BrainDrain]

This. You need someone on the ground doing the work if you want to pull it off, getting one Pinay do do anything is a logistical headache, rounding up six of them is like a fucking moon landing. Not that it can't be done, but you personally are not going to do it from your keyboard without help, unless that becomes your day job, and even then. Enlist help. Best of luck.You are mostly right: How about rephrasing this:

Getting the wrong Pinay to do anything is a logistical headache.

Getting a qualified, working Pinay to do anything is possible.

I've been changing my expectations and my target group away from bargirls to tertiary qualified but out of work regular girls.

Happy days.

[Pompolino]

You are staying at the south most tip of Cebu. No idea what happens there nor the p4 p scene. I may have gone there but can't remember if that was the place where I swam with the sharks. It was way south but I am not good with names. Enjoy.The place you swam with the whale sharks was Oslob.

P.

[Roll Aides]

You are mostly right: How about rephrasing this:

Getting the wrong Pinay to do anything is a logistical headache.

Getting a qualified, working Pinay to do anything is possible.

I've been changing my expectations and my target group away from bargirls to tertiary qualified but out of work regular girls.

Happy days.Good point, and well said. Thanks for the correction.

[Questor55]

The place you swam with the whale sharks was Oslob.

P.Actually, the village is Tan A Wan. It's about ten kms south of the town of Oslob.

[Cbear13]

Thanks to everybody for all the help. I have taken all that people have said and taken it back to my friend. Right now he had me book a place on Thailand in Pattaya for us. Cause know he is thinking about there. Cause like you said maybe be a bit hard to get girls to want to go that far.

So I booked a villa in Pattaya with a private pool. So now it is the process of trying to find a girl there like you said to run the things.

Has anybody been to Thailand that might have some advice.


I've know two girls in AC who are leaders of their little packs. They are not bargirls or mamasans, just respected by their peers. So, they between them have:

A) Organised a party at Lewis Grand room.

B) Organised a party at ABC penthouse.

C) Organised half a bus load of girls to meet us (the other half the mini-bus) upon our flight arrival at NAIA.

D) Organised a mini pool party at my AC hotel.

So, as other people have said this stuff is easy to so in AC. It can certainly be done..

[Amanut]

Thanks to everybody for all the help. Has anybody been to Thailand that might have some advice.Some of these guys have.

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?253-Thailand

[Red Kilt]

There was just now (Sunday, 17th) a news item on ABS-CBN news that regular meter taxis are going to be allowed to pick up passengers from all NAIA airports, starting July 18.

Passengers are requested to obtain name of driver and rego number and to report immediately if the meter is not used on request.

It's also in Philstar
http://www.philstar.com/headlines/2016/07/15/1603161/naia-opens-doors-regular-white-taxis-starting-july-18

Part of Du30's attempt to make things easier for passengers to depart from the airport.

Interesting statistic is that 75% of all passengers are filipinos so he is being true to his word to assist his kababayan.

[Blanquiceleste]

Thanks to everybody for all the help. I have taken all that people have said and taken it back to my friend. Right now he had me book a place on Thailand in Pattaya for us. Cause know he is thinking about there. Cause like you said maybe be a bit hard to get girls to want to go that far.

So I booked a villa in Pattaya with a private pool. So now it is the process of trying to find a girl there like you said to run the things.

Has anybody been to Thailand that might have some advice.You should post this question on the Thailand Pattaya thread. Also RTFF. There is s ton of information on that thread. Thai girls love a party and Pattaya is one of the best places to have one. You could simply walk into a bar on Soi 6 (say Ruby or Roxy) that have a bunch of doable chicks and simply fill up the bus. It will be a bit more expensive compared to the Philippines, simply because the Thai Baht is more valued that the Peso. Also, the going rates for a LT pull from Soi 6 would be roughly 2500 THB + 500 BF. You can do the rest of the math.

If you have more money, you could do the same thing in a GoGo Bar with spectacular results. But you will blow the bank.

Lastly, if you want to do the hard work and keep yourself mentally occupied with the whole idea till the time you arrive, hit up social media and start chatting with a few cuties. When you have a couple of good leads ask them about their friends and slowly build up your roster. Of course, this could all descend into utter chaos when you land and you will need a PlanB and PlanC.

Have fun!

[Roll Aides]

Thanks to everybody for all the help. I have taken all that people have said and taken it back to my friend. Right now he had me book a place on Thailand in Pattaya for us. Cause know he is thinking about there. Cause like you said maybe be a bit hard to get girls to want to go that far.

So I booked a villa in Pattaya with a private pool. So now it is the process of trying to find a girl there like you said to run the things.

Has anybody been to Thailand that might have some advice.Think you did the right thing by rebooking in Pattaya. As others have said, see the Thailand forum for help with that. Best of luck.

[Robnbg1981]

Hello folks,

I'm planning a two week trip to the Philippines in late August (19 Aug - 03 Sept) this year.

This will be my first trip to Asia (at least for this type of activities) in a while so any advice or insight you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

Aside from the obvious reason for choosing the P.S. I would also like to squeeze in a few days of nice beach and some diving on the wrecks up at Coron as well as the whale Sharks etc at Oslob.

Right now my biggest concern is how to fit it all into a nice two week package, that offers ample opportunity for both types of extracurricular activities. I've read through the forums as research on how to plan my trip.

My current thoughts are to fly from FRA into either Manila or Clark. Return flight from Cebu to FRA.

If possible, I would like to pick up one or maybe two nice girls to accompany me on the rest of the journey and take a trip with me down further south for a few days or a week.

Has anybody done something similar? In the big cities it's no issue, but how relaxed are the smaller resorts / hotels (in the smaller towns) when you check in with or bring a girl?

Thanks for your input.

Rob

[Mr Enternational]

Aside from the obvious reason for choosing the P.S. I would also like to squeeze in a few days of nice beach and some diving on the wrecks up at Coron as well as the whale Sharks etc at Oslob.Send Patrick over at Sea Dive in Coron an email. You will be a sad case if you do not bring a chick from Manila with you. If you are going to Oslob, then best to meet some chick in Cebu City to tag along with you.

[Amanut]

Send Patrick over at Sea Dive in Coron an email. You will be a sad case if you do not bring a chick from Manila with you. If you are going to Oslob, then best to meet some chick in Cebu City to tag along with you.I agree. I would further add to center your trip out of Cebu. Trips to places you have described make it a center that is easy and inexpensive to fly out of or take boat trips from. You can take in places like Bohol, Honda Bay near Puerto Princesa, and Ilo Ilo from Cebu easily. If you go to Ilo Ilo go to a restaurant called Rom Boys. The best smoked pork I have ever eaten in my life. Unless you have a burning desire to sit in traffic, skip Manila altogether.

Now is a good time to register on Date in Asia and start your chatting. You will only be alone when you want to be alone. Bring a cheap unlocked phone. SIM cards are cheap and easily available. Practice your texting because you will be doing lots of it for your two weeks.

Give us a report when you get back home.

[James Bond 1]

If you go to Ilo Ilo go to a restaurant called Rom Boys. The best smoked pork I have ever eaten in my life. Unless you have a burning desire to sit in traffic, skip Manila altogether.Google asks if I mean Ramboy's: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g298466-d7248056-Reviews-Ramboys_Lechonan_and_Restaurant-Iloilo_City_Iloilo_Province_Panay_Island_Visayas.html.

[Wicked Roger]

Posted this on the Cebu forum as happened there but is relevant everywhere.

Maybe this is common but not for me or the person referred to in the FR. As I have flown with cuties for years and they have never been asked this (me yes always when flying to the country).

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1911352&viewfull=1#post1911352.

[Simmer]

Posted this on the Cebu forum as happened there but is relevant everywhere.

Maybe this is common but not for me or the person referred to in the FR. As I have flown with cuties for years and they have never been asked this (me yes always when flying to the country).

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1911352&viewfull=1#post1911352.http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information&p=1911352&viewfull=1#post1911352

Forum software breaks the URL at the # symbol, unfortunately.

[Amanut]

Google asks if I mean Ramboy's: https://www.tripadvisor.com/Restaurant_Review-g298466-d7248056-Reviews-Ramboys_Lechonan_and_Restaurant-Iloilo_City_Iloilo_Province_Panay_Island_Visayas.html.Sorry I did not see your reply. Yes that's the place. They have a couple different locations in IloIlo but I only ate at the restaurant beside the old church.

[Red Kilt]

Here is the latest "Smart Traveller" update about terrorist threats for Aussies living or travelling abroad.

It has old data as well as new updates.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/bulletins/Pages/terrorist_threat.aspx

I was told by a local NBI guy that they are watching sites where foreigners of all colours and creeds hang out around Manila.

When I pressed him "what places?" I was told "Places like LA Cafe in Malate and Cafe Havana in Greenbelt". When I asked if they had credible intel he just smiled and did the mouth zipped gesture.

Be wary out there guys.

[Dg8787]

Here is the latest "Smart Traveller" update about terrorist threats for Aussies living or travelling abroad.

It has old data as well as new updates.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/bulletins/Pages/terrorist_threat.aspx

I was told by a local NBI guy that they are watching sites where foreigners of all colours and creeds hang out around Manila.

When I pressed him "what places?" I was told "Places like LA Cafe in Malate and Cafe Havana in Greenbelt". When I asked if they had credible intel he just smiled and did the mouth zipped gesture.

Be wary out there guys.Maybe be on the look out for someone who hires a harem for his drunken last night before he gets his 72 virgins. Sadly more truth to this than humor.

[Dg8787]

My friend who is a manager in a business texted me a picture of a fake pictured company ID. This girl had applied for a job and show her a company ID. The ID looked very legit with her picture and laminated. The problem was my friend had previously worked at that company and called her friends there to verify this girl. The answer was negative. They didn't know her at all.

This is not the first time I have heard about legit looking fake company ID's. Anyone can get them produced at the local internet shops.

[Wicked Roger]

My friend who is a manager in a business texted me a picture of a fake pictured company ID. This girl had applied for a job and show her a company ID. The ID looked very legit with her picture and laminated. The problem was my friend had previously worked at that company and called her friends there to verify this girl. The answer was negative. They didn't know her at all.

This is not the first time I have heard about legit looking fake company ID's. Anyone can get them produced at the local internet shops.A few get there fake IDs in Greenhills (Manila for those who won't know this area). Plenty people there able to produce all sorts including fake university degrees that neither of us would know is fake.

One girls produced fake invoices in her university letterhead to fools an idiot who thought she was being charged a significant amount of cash each month for school fees LOL Was very authentic looking and he was fooled for sure.

[GoodEnough]

Here is the latest "Smart Traveller" update about terrorist threats for Aussies living or travelling abroad.

It has old data as well as new updates.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/bulletins/Pages/terrorist_threat.aspx

I was told by a local NBI guy that they are watching sites where foreigners of all colours and creeds hang out around Manila.

When I pressed him "what places?" I was told "Places like LA Cafe in Malate and Cafe Havana in Greenbelt". When I asked if they had credible intel he just smiled and did the mouth zipped gesture.

Be wary out there guys.These warnings are not dissimilar to those issued by the US Embassy, and are not to be taken lightly. I've pretty much started to avoid going out while in Manila and have started to restrict myself to the hotel and the office. If highly-trained French and German security forces can't do much to prevent the repeated slaughter of innocent people, I doubt that the more poorly trained and equipped security forces here will prove up to the task. So-called security guards have minimal training, cheap weaponry and zero intelligence information, so I doubt they would be of much use nullifying any threats.

As I've pointed out before, I very rarely take taxis, preferring Uber and failing that, the use of hotel cars. I never take what passes for mass transport here and would encourage others to adopt the same stance. This is particularly important for short-term first or second time tourists who don't know the country and know even less about the cities they're visiting.

GE.

[Gunners1]

Greetings folks,

With my impending trip to Manila and Cebu in a few weeks coming up, I set up an account with a 1 month subscription. I have now been approached by several cuties who have offered to provide GFE. Sending through pictures and making plans for me on what we could do when we are not burning the calories.

But the issue I have is these girls now are providing reasons of financial crisis. E. g rent, medicines for mom, medicines for kids, electricity bills, basic needs costs. Etc. School fees. The list goes on,.

I have replied to all of them that I will refrain from sending money unless I meet.

Maybe on hindsight I should not have created the account so early on the game.

But now, my list is thinning out as the girls are a bit miffed why I can't send money now.

FYI. I have been burned before, when I sent through some money to a girl who was planning to visit Dubai. But she never came. So now I have made up my mind, I will not pay up before I see.

Has anyone else faced similar issues. ?

Take care folks.

G.


In preparation for my short trip to Manila next month I activated my Pinalove account yesterday. I restricted my searching to Manila only and the 18-25 age bracket. Within less than an hour I had two offers to keep me company for money, another asking if I'm interested in "me and my lesbian girlfriend", and more hotties than I will possibly have time for. I'll spend the next few weeks sorting the wheat from the chaff, but I can tell already it's going to be a fun trip.

[WestCoast1]

FYI. I have been burned before, when I sent through some money to a girl who was planning to visit Dubai. But she never came. So now I have made up my mind, I will not pay up before I see.

Has anyone else faced similar issues. ?Yes, I think we've all been burned at some point by similar circumstance. I'd guess most all of us board regulars would say your instincts are right: never send money before spending time with a girl. The ones you mentioned who are dropping off your list for not sending are not worth your time. I make it clear up front that any remuneration comes *after* we spend time together.

Also, if you think the money requests are often now, wait until you spend time with a pinay. You will find the money requests after you leave also never stop.

[Red Kilt]

Yes, I think we've all been burned at some point by similar circumstance. I'd guess most all of us board regulars would say your instincts are right: never send money before spending time with a girl. Don't include me in the "we've all been burned" Westy.

An absolute categorical rule for me is NEVER EVER send money in advance whether by LBC, XOOM, WU or any other means, whether I have met her before or not.

I know some guys regularly send money to girls that they already met but this money should be treated like casino gambling money, and restricted to what you can afford to lose.

[SaltyPete]

Greetings folks,

But now, my list is thinning out as the girls are a bit miffed why I can't send money now.

G.Don't worry about the thinning of the herd. The girls that are leaving were never going to meet you anyway.

[Dg8787]

On one hand someone scamming for free pussy with fake info and smooth words and on the other hand someone playing it better by dangling her free pussy out there. Don't complain if you get out scammed and burned.

[XXL]

As I've pointed out before, I very rarely take taxis, preferring Uber ...Indeed European countries are doing exactly the wrong thing when they ban Ueber in order to protect the market share of taxis and mass transport. Decentralised unconspicuous individual transportation is the best in the context of terrorism and shootings.

[WestCoast1]

Don't include me in the "we've all been burned" Westy.

An absolute categorical rule for me is NEVER EVER send money in advance whether by LBC, XOOM, WU or any other means, whether I have met her before or not.

I know some guys regularly send money to girls that they already met but this money should be treated like casino gambling money, and restricted to what you can afford to lose.Apology Red. I have been so burned in the past. For a long time after the burn, I too adopted the NEVER EVER. But later I have sent some times thru WU to help support my regulars. Rarely has there been a hiccup on the girl's end later. For all new or nearly new, NEVER send, and I also never pre-cover transport if a girl wants to travel to see me. My policy is to reimburse transport (round-trip + a bit extra) immediately upon meeting a new girl. That way, if she does not like me (or vice versa), she never needs to be in my hotel, and can go directly home. Another thought: If you do send, decide in advance on a monetary amount that you can easily afford to lose. $10? $50? $500? Send only that amount. If you get burned, there's no loss of sleep.

For all gents new to any country: The NEVER-IN-ADVANCE rule should apply under all circumstances.

[Soapy Smith]

Maybe be on the look out for someone who hires a harem for his drunken last night before he gets his 72 virgins. Sadly more truth to this than humor.That's one side of the equation. The other has to do with crowded sites where unsuspecting foreigners hang out, thus making an ideal target.

[Blanquiceleste]

Also, if you think the money requests are often now, wait until you spend time with a pinay. You will find the money requests after you leave also never stop.Spot on! Just today morning I got a FB Messenger call from a chick I had banged last year in Manila. I had added her on my FB but I never bothered to keep in touch. So I had not seen or talked to or messaged her in over 7 months. I did not pick the call as I was busy with some other stuff. Then I get a message and the conversation goes like this:

She: I'm here!

Me: Hey! How are you? Here where?

She: In Singapore.

Me: Oh I see, when did you arrive (smacking my lips at the prospect of a good weekend).

She: I have come to Singapore 2 weeks now. I have boyfriend in Singapore.

Me: Well, then why are you calling me?

She: because he break up with me now and I have no money to go back to Manila. Can you help me po?

Me: How can I help you? Ask your boyfriend to get you a ticket back (I am now wondering how she was let in without checking for a return ticket at the immigration desk).

She: Oh no! He says get out and is very angry. He not buy me ticket. Please help me po. Buy me ticket to go back.

Me: I'm sorry dear. I cannot help. I only give you money when you are with me. Not otherwise.

She: Oh. Ok, no problem. I will not bother you. I never see you again.

Me: Well. OK.

But I still love them pinays!

[MrWoolyBooly]

But now, my list is thinning out as the girls are a bit miffed why I can't send money now.

G.I keep barely but continuously active. For any that interest you a lot just remind them a day or two before you arrive. Statistically you should get plenty of satisfaction, just don't get set on a particular satisfiers. They'll be no less money hungry when in person, but you have more options and they know it.

[Sammon]

Greetings folks,

With my impending trip to Manila and Cebu in a few weeks coming up, I set up an account with a 1 month subscription. I have now been approached by several cuties who have offered to provide GFE. Sending through pictures and making plans for me on what we could do when we are not burning the calories.

But the issue I have is these girls now are providing reasons of financial crisis. E. g rent, medicines for mom, medicines for kids, electricity bills, basic needs costs. Etc. School fees. The list goes on,.

I have replied to all of them that I will refrain from sending money unless I meet.

Maybe on hindsight I should not have created the account so early on the game.

But now, my list is thinning out as the girls are a bit miffed why I can't send money now.

FYI. I have been burned before, when I sent through some money to a girl who was planning to visit Dubai. But she never came. So now I have made up my mind, I will not pay up before I see.

Has anyone else faced similar issues. ?

Take care folks.

G.Burned by sending money! You must be joking. Consider it as a donation. Look at all the sweet dreams you had your dick entering her sweet and tight pussy. That alone must be worth something.

Joking aside any girl if you show vulnerability will ask for money. I have put few girls through school and all of them have serviced me well over the years. I have sent many tickets plus traveling money to girls from provinces and all of them showed up and opened their legs. True that their sexual experience is limited. Shown how by the " Master" they quickly learn.

Only one time I sent 500 pesos to a supposedly " Virgin" from near Manila she failed to show up. But to her credit she did call and apologized. Her story is she tried to get permission from her mother which was promptly denied. Since she did not have any friends to cover her story of leaving house there was no way she could be with me.

For many of the province girls it is a problem to meet you if they are living at home. It is easy for girls living in boarding houses.

To send money or not it your personal decision knowing very well girl leave you Hi and dry. Mindset should be if she does not show up it should be taken as a entertainment expense.

On the other hand what I hate most is girls agreeing to meet at a certain time failed to show up without any explanation. If only they could have called and cancelled the meeting I would have lined up somebody else. In Philippines getting a replacement girl is never a problem thankfully.

[Wicked Roger]

She: because he break up with me now and I have no money to go back to Manila. Can you help me po?

Me: How can I help you? Ask your boyfriend to get you a ticket back (I am now wondering how she was let in without checking for a return ticket at the immigration desk).Apart from the blinding obvious question that you note Blanq when I have had the same question (whether it is international or locally that the cutie is stranded) I ask them "why go somewhere with a 1 way ticket and no mean to return home as that is plainly stupid".

That tends to shut them up as especially when I add "I would not have gone in the 1st place, so ask whoever invited you there to pay for the return as clearly they wanted you to come so quickly you got a 1 way ticket".

Been told am mean and other words after this, never see me again (fine) etc. For those who think of sending then next question is something like "I also need money for snacks and taxi" LOL.

[Mr Enternational]

Here is the latest "Smart Traveller" update about terrorist threats for Aussies living or travelling abroad.

It has old data as well as new updates.

http://smartraveller.gov.au/bulletins/Pages/terrorist_threat.aspx

I was told by a local NBI guy that they are watching sites where foreigners of all colours and creeds hang out around Manila.

When I pressed him "what places?" I was told "Places like LA Cafe in Malate and Cafe Havana in Greenbelt". When I asked if they had credible intel he just smiled and did the mouth zipped gesture.

Be wary out there guys.All clear Sunday at 4:45 pm.

[Fastpiston]

These warnings are not dissimilar to those issued by the US Embassy, and are not to be taken lightly. I've pretty much started to avoid going out while in Manila and have started to restrict myself to the hotel and the office. If highly-trained French and German security forces can't do much to prevent the repeated slaughter of innocent people, I doubt that the more poorly trained and equipped security forces here will prove up to the task. So-called security guards have minimal training, cheap weaponry and zero intelligence information, so I doubt they would be of much use nullifying any threats.

As I've pointed out before, I very rarely take taxis, preferring Uber and failing that, the use of hotel cars. I never take what passes for mass transport here and would encourage others to adopt the same stance. This is particularly important for short-term first or second time tourists who don't know the country and know even less about the cities they're visiting.

GE.Very sound advice. Problem is most of the guys who visit the Philippines are convinced they have more knowledge than the US Embassy.

[Red Kilt]

Very sound advice. Problem is most of the guys who visit the Philippines are convinced they have more knowledge than the US Embassy.Whilst I always take notice of the travel advisories from my (Australian) embassy, you also need to factor in that the advice is designed to cover their backs if something goes wrong, so they ALWAYS err on the side of being ultra-cautious.

I have lived in the Philippines for 20 years now (mostly in Manila but also some time in Davao and in Northern Luzon too) and I can see that some of the advice is ultra-cautious but it might be essential to follow if you're a newbie.

I have also been advised that if a traveller disregards the clear advice given on the websites and something does go wrong, the Embassy can choose to ignore any pleadings for help if they so wish.

You might also need to read the fine print on your health and travel insurance policies too.

My work insurance policy (issued for short-term assignments) always excludes some parts of the Philippines.

So, WRT what FastP says, if you have local knowledge you might be able to "ignore" some advice, but if you're a newbie, you should generally follow it closely.

NEVER believe a girl who says "You can come to my probins; it is very safe here and we will look after you".

Of course it's safe for them, but it may not be for you.

[GoodEnough]

I have a close friend who has been living in Cebu for the past several months, and who has been afflicted with chronic bronchitis almost since his arrival. His doctor there attributes the condition to his riding a small motorcycle and breathing in the exhaust emissions from the congested traffic in that city. He told me today his discovery that cars in this country are not equipped--at least not as a matter of law--with catalytic converters, a technology that's been mandatory in the developed world for about 45 years. Given the general disinterest in public health that pervades the country I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was. It's yet another indication to me of how far out of synch this place really is.

GE.

[Mr Enternational]

It's yet another indication to me of how far out of synch this place really is.It is not at all out of sync. It is just that the first world countries that we live in expect that when they discover or decide something then everyone else should follow suit. When our countries are doing a fucked up thing then it is all well and good. But when we decide it is fucked up and decide to do otherwise, then we expect every other country to stop and do the same. Shit don't work like that. Remember when slavery and prostitution was no big deal in the USA? Now that we have decided it is not good for us then we want everybody else to stop it too.

[Red Kilt]

I have a close friend who has been living in Cebu for the past several months, and who has been afflicted with chronic bronchitis almost since his arrival. His doctor there attributes the condition to his riding a small motorcycle and breathing in the exhaust emissions from the congested traffic in that city. He told me today his discovery that cars in this country are not equipped--at least not as a matter of law--with catalytic converters, a technology that's been mandatory in the developed world for about 45 years. Given the general disinterest in public health that pervades the country I suppose I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was. It's yet another indication to me of how far out of synch this place really is.Not doubting the validity of GE's description of the disregard for public health, I found that soon after I moved to the Philippines for work (1997) fro a cooler climate in Australia, all of my sinus problems and skin irritations disappeared, almost overnight, despite the obvious drop in air quality.

My doctor concluded that it was the tropical humidity that was working in my favor.

So I guess "you win some and you lose some".

[X Man]

Did you tell your doctor that you'd been shagging all kinds of relatively young women? Maybe his conclusion would have been different.


Not doubting the validity of GE's description of the disregard for public health, I found that soon after I moved to the Philippines for work (1997) fro a cooler climate in Australia, all of my sinus problems and skin irritations disappeared, almost overnight, despite the obvious drop in air quality.

My doctor concluded that it was the tropical humidity that was working in my favor.

So I guess "you win some and you lose some".

[Simmer]

Not doubting the validity of GE's description of the disregard for public health, I found that soon after I moved to the Philippines for work (1997) fro a cooler climate in Australia, all of my sinus problems and skin irritations disappeared, almost overnight, despite the obvious drop in air quality.

My doctor concluded that it was the tropical humidity that was working in my favor.

So I guess "you win some and you lose some".Yeah, I've had stomach issues for years and 2 weeks in the Philippines last year cleared it right up within a few days. Never felt better. Until I went home and it started again. Who'd've thunk it. Better behaving guts in the 3rd world country!

(Disclaimer: might just be stress relief, as it were)

[Red Kilt]

Interesting set of national data.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/dutch-latvians-world-tallest-pinoys-000000463.html

[WestCoast1]

Yeah, I've had stomach issues for years and 2 weeks in the Philippines last year cleared it right up within a few days. Never felt better. Until I went home and it started again. Who'd've thunk it. Better behaving guts in the 3rd world country!

(Disclaimer: might just be stress relief, as it were)Interestingly, I have a breathing allergy here, which disappears a day or so after I fly into the tropics, and returns 24 hours after I get back here. OTOH, 4-5 days into my time in phils and I get stomach issues (reflux, ulceritis), probably from the foods associated with travel and phils restaurants. All of that stops a few days after returning to my regular diet when back home.

[Member #4566]

Filipinas are not the world's shortest. You may want to read the articles that you cite.


Interesting set of national data.

https://sg.news.yahoo.com/dutch-latvians-world-tallest-pinoys-000000463.html

[WestCoast1]

Filipinas are not the world's shortest. You may want to read the articles that you cite.Concur. Traveling the Costa Maya and south from Mexico, Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, etc, I find the women even shorter than pinay (not much, just some). Others?

[Member #4698]

1. Aymara women which make up the indigenous population living in the Andes and Altiplano regions of Bolivia, Peru and Chile, are shorter than Filipinas. A casual walk around the street markets of La Paz and Cuzco will confirm this. The young ones can be very cute, but they age quickly and the older they get the wider they get.

2. I don't have stats on this, but my personal impression has always been that Khmer and Lao girls were more petite and shorter than Filipinas too.

[Wicked Roger]

The young ones can be very cute, but they age quickly and the older they get the wider they get..This is true of many ladies regardless of nationality Natty LOL.

Never like seeing for example a wide ass white lady (say in Florida) walking round in shorts thinking she is the 'bees knees' to sexy fashion. Thank goodness I never go there (I mean the lady not Florida). Many pinays I see overseas are chubby also. Lack of exercise, way too much food (rice still in the diet unfortunately IMHO) and when with their man they seem to switch off from being the slim sexy girl the guy was a horn dog for.

[PolyOrchid]

IMO, the Phils have the best women in the world, all things considered. On the other hand, their food will give any country for worst in the world.


Interestingly, I have a breathing allergy here, which disappears a day or so after I fly into the tropics, and returns 24 hours after I get back here. OTOH, 4-5 days into my time in phils and I get stomach issues (reflux, ulceritis), probably from the foods associated with travel and phils restaurants. All of that stops a few days after returning to my regular diet when back home.

[Red Kilt]

Filipinas are not the world's shortest. You may want to read the articles that you cite.OK. So I said "shortest" when I should have said "next to shortest" or "second shortest".

What a nit-picker. You should call yourself "pompous" instead of "pompetus".

I read the complete paper before I posted.

When you factor in the statistical error as well as the other variables like converting from cms to inches, age at which height is measured, maturation rates, quality of food etc filipinas can be classified as shorter even than women in Guatemala. OTOH, they can also be classified as on the 4th or 5th rung from the bottom.

Papers quoted in Yahoo Philippines hardly require serious analysis; I posted it more as a light-hearted diversion. The data is hardly likely to influence global politics.

[Aerishman]

Philippine friend of mine was going to travel to Hong Kong with the intent to stay there for few weeks. Her and lot of other people, including elderly and even guys, got offloaded and were not allowed to fly. She said the "immigration is now strict because of Duterte".

WTF?

[Mr Enternational]

IMO, the Phils have the best women in the world, all things considered. Are you serious? They definitely get my vote for the most airheads though.

[D Cups]

I've noticed my schwantztooka has a significant increase in length and girth upon arrival in the Philippines. QUOTE=WestCoast1;1915030 Interestingly, I have a breathing allergy here, which disappears a day or so after I fly into the tropics, and returns 24 hours after I get back here. QUOTE].

[Soapy Smith]

On the other hand, their food will give any country for worst in the world.Life expectancy in the Phils is upwards of 15 years shorter than some East Asian and European countries. Quality of health care is undoubtedly an issue, but all the sugar and salt in their recipes can't be helpful. And where else do you find people gravitating to eateries with all you can eat rice?

I have always suspected that the many short Filipinos is related to lack of protein in children's diets, hence, the legs and other bone structures never get very long.

[X Man]

Great to hear about your mini-schwantztooka. One of my Fiipina friends says that your pistol expands to about three inches.


I've noticed my schwantztooka has a significant increase in length and girth upon arrival in the Philippines. QUOTE=WestCoast1;1915030 Interestingly, I have a breathing allergy here, which disappears a day or so after I fly into the tropics, and returns 24 hours after I get back here. QUOTE].

[WestCoast1]

Philippine friend of mine was going to travel to Hong Kong with the intent to stay there for few weeks. Her and lot of other people, including elderly and even guys, got offloaded and were not allowed to fly. She said the "immigration is now strict because of Duterte".

WTF?This isn't really a 'WTF' situation. It not discussed that frequently here, but it does get discussed from time to time. Its difficult for pinoy to travel for pleasure outside of phils. There are a variety of reasons as to why (both for the inbound country and for phils -- protecting pinoy).

[D Cups]

Well that is three times larger than your inchworm that one of my Filipina girlfriends told me about you, asshole.


Great to hear about your mini-schwantztooka. One of my Fiipina friends says that your pistol expands to about three inches..

[X Man]

I used to play sports. Although I only have a teeny weeny inchworm, I always wore my "D cup" protection. Oh, and thank you for the sweet words you sent to my pm box.


Well that is three times larger than your inchworm that one of my Filipina girlfriends told me about you, asshole.

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[D Cups]

But the same girl told me you didn't have any balls either, X. Ya, go vote for Hillary you dumb fuck. Your brain is even smaller than your inchworm of a dick.


I used to play sports. Although I only have a teeny weeny inchworm, I always wore my "D cup" protection. Oh, and thank you for the sweet words you sent to my pm box..

[X Man]

It's been a long time since you've posted more than one sentence at a time. You must have really put in some effort here. Congratulations.


But the same girl told me you didn't have any balls either, X. Ya, go vote for Hillary you dumb fuck. Your brain is even smaller than your inchworm of a dick.

.

[GoodEnough]

It's been a long time since you've posted more than one sentence at a time. You must have really put in some effort here. Congratulations.Both of you guys need to go to your rooms for so, e quiet time. Enough of the puerile taunts.