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Read this today and was chuckling to myself as I know a few guys in this position. I have always said that the greed of the family can ruin a relationship. The comments are interesting also. But sadly this way of thinking is all too common and is something that the westerner can't / won't understand an / or accept.
https://lifestyle.inquirer.net/311253/her-sister-also-wants-an-allowance-from-her-american-husband/Interestingly everyone is considering that the foreign guy is innocent and totally honest while it is the local girls and officials who are corrupt and dishonest. The implication is that the anti trafficking and drug laws here are not instituted in response to abuses in the past but are an official means to help locals extort money from foreigners.
If this was a local discussion forum the blame would be reversed.
With only knowing limited facts as reported in the press, we have to consider all possibilities. Not every local is a corrupt liar and not every foreigner is an innocent victim of scheming locals.
Chocha Monger
10-30-18, 05:40
Every country has its own laws. Whether it is fair, reasonable, protects citizens is debatable. Still all people including foreigners have to obey. It would be easy to accompany a bunch of girls here in USA on a vacation or whatever. We have basic rights here.
Firstly any of us go for fun with girls to Philippines. And we get lulled into thinking we can do pretty much whatever we want. Even a simple girl can turn into a visceous trying to get you into trouble.
Piece of advice is do not get involved any adventures. Just have fun and get out.Great advice! Fly in for a fuck and suck, and fly out alone. Filipinas hide behind their sweet silly smiles and mongers will not know what is going on in their heads until the trap slams shut. Jealousy (selos) and envy (inggit) are a daily part of life in the Philippines. A monger risks making enemies that he is unaware of simply through his involvement with group activities. Paying his girlfriend's way but not doing the same for the friends accompanying her on an adventure is enough to make the friends feel spiteful.
Many mongers have problems staying on mission, which is spray, pay, and away! Let the girls have excursions on their own time and money. Whenever girls ask to tag along, it is because they expect to freeload.
VictorHugo99
10-30-18, 22:42
Such good and wise words bro.
Thanks.
Great advice! Fly in for a fuck and suck, and fly out alone. Filipinas hide behind their sweet silly smiles and mongers will not know what is going on in their heads until the trap slams shut. Jealousy (selos) and envy (inggit) are a daily part of life in the Philippines. A monger risks making enemies that he is unaware of simply through his involvement with group activities. Paying his girlfriend's way but not doing the same for the friends accompanying her on an adventure is enough to make the friends feel spiteful.
Many mongers have problems staying on mission, which is spray, pay, and away! Let the girls have excursions on their own time and money. Whenever girls ask to tag along, it is because they expect to freeload.
Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '18 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.
Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '10 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.I haven't bought tickets online from PAL so my comments only pertain to CP.
CP online has always been a problem from ultra slow to not remember the info inputed.
With that said. I usually go online during Philippine night and early morning hours.
There has been rumors that Palawan might be subject to closing for rehab like Boracay. Airlines and hotels might be reluctant to take bookings. Just my speculations.
This morning I was able to change my booking online without any problems.
Wicked Roger
10-31-18, 12:27
Is anyone having / had issues booking flights on Cebu Pacific? I'm trying to book USU (Busuanga/Coron) to Clark in Dec '18 and April '19. However, it is showing all flights as unavailable despite the flight existing on their flight paths and Google etc. ??
Also how do PAL handle flights that transit in MNL but show as arrive in MNL but depart from CRK? Do they bus passengers from NAIA to CRK or is it the passengers responsibility?
Thanks. G.Can only comment on CP. This works well no issues but when I try to book a long time in advance I see issues. I have the same with other low cost / budget airlines and I speculate only is because they don't know what is happening so far in advance so release flights nearer the time.
This is the case with Air Asia at times and I call them to try and get the ticket instead. So try a call but then CP can be painfully slow and annoying and I have at times asked the lady 'are you a parrot' as they repeat all you say and more many times over LOL.
OlderAndWiser
11-01-18, 05:00
I'm afraid another American has been sent to Cebu City jail. Details are currently sketchy put it seems he was caught up in what he believes was a scam to encourage him to send money for "naughty" pics and then it emerged that the girl involved was 17 IE a minor. He was arrested 18 days ago and spent the first 15 days in a Cebu police cell where he was encouraged (but refused) to use the Police's recommended lawyer for his defense (This is a typical way to "cut a deal" in this situation). I am told he has been charged with a non-bailable offense as the girl involved was a minor. Once the case has been sent to court, the police no longer have discretion to "Cut a deal" so the legal process must play out- at a glacial pace. Non-bailable in this context means that he does not have an automatic right to post bail as he would with a less serious offense. His atty, once he finds one, may still decide it is appropriate to file a motion for bail which will typically take between 6 - 18 months to resolve. If this fails, most cases will take 3 -8 years to be heard. If the offense is indeed non bailable the ultimate penalty is likely to be 20 years to life. I am rather surprised that this is a non bailable offense and there maybe more to the matter than is currently known. Clearly it's an extremely grim situation to get into (he's currently in a cell with around 180 other inmates) so please be very careful.
Separately it was also reported this morning that a Norwegian guy walking around Mango Square, Cebu last night drunk was arrested with a couple of packets of shabu in his pocket. If the quantity was less than 5 g he should be bailable, but if over 5 g he will also be sent to jail on a non bailable charge. In his case a witness supposedly saw a pack fall out of his pocket and reported it to the police which sounds very much like a set up. Given the crackdown on drugs here anyone who knowingly takes them here is running an insane risk. Take care you don't get into a situation where stuff can be planted on you.
Can only comment on CP. This works well no issues but when I try to book a long time in advance I see issues. I have the same with other low cost / budget airlines and I speculate only is because they don't know what is happening so far in advance so release flights nearer the time.
This is the case with Air Asia at times and I call them to try and get the ticket instead. So try a call but then CP can be painfully slow and annoying and I have at times asked the lady 'are you a parrot' as they repeat all you say and more many times over LOL.Thanks Roger. I agree on CP's reliability or lack that of.
Just in case anyone else is looking for the same route, despite what all the various sites are saying, they got back to be to say that they are now not servicing the USU CRK or return routes. PAL do however.
Enjoy, G.
Wicked Roger
11-01-18, 23:31
I'm afraid another American has been sent to Cebu City jail. Details are currently sketchy put it seems he was caught up in what he believes was a scam to encourage him to send money for "naughty" pics and then it emerged that the girl involved was 17 IE a minor. He was arrested 18 days ago and spent the first 15 days in a Cebu police cell where he was encouraged (but refused) to use the Police's recommended lawyer for his defense (This is a typical way to "cut a deal" in this situation). I am told he has been charged with a non-bailable offense as the girl involved was a minor. Once the case has been sent to court, the police no longer have discretion to "Cut a deal" so the legal process must play out- at a glacial pace. Non-bailable in this context means that he does not have an automatic right to post bail as he would with a less serious offense. His atty, once he finds one, may still decide it is appropriate to file a motion for bail which will typically take between 6 - 18 months to resolve. If this fails, most cases will take 3 -8 years to be heard. If the offense is indeed non bailable the ultimate penalty is likely to be 20 years to life. I am rather surprised that this is a non bailable offense and there maybe more to the matter than is currently known. Clearly it's an extremely grim situation to get into (he's currently in a cell with around 180 other inmates) so please be very careful.Plenty like this O&W.
I read about both and the links to the Norwegian below. Plus an Aussie in Jail 5 years no trail etc to back up you comments.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/
http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/
http://philippineslifestyle.com/scot-deported-bureau-immigration/
And plenty more. Remember if you shout at a pinoy you can locked up as the law is very vague and they see a foreigner as an easy ATM in my view.
Chocha Monger
11-02-18, 05:59
Plenty like this O&W.
I read about both and the links to the Norwegian below. Plus an Aussie in Jail 5 years no trail etc to back up you comments.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/justice-australian-cebu-jail-fie-years/
http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/
http://philippineslifestyle.com/scot-deported-bureau-immigration/
And plenty more. Remember if you shout at a pinoy you can locked up as the law is very vague and they see a foreigner as an easy ATM in my view.Many new laws are going into effect that will land more mongers in jail.
Bill 1326, or the "Safe Streets and Public Spaces Act of 2017", seeks to penalise "catcalling, wolf-whistling, cursing, leering, groping, persistent requests for name and contact details and the use of words tending to ridicule on the basis of actual or perceived sex, gender expression or sexual orientation and identity in public spaces".
The new laws would be enforced by "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers". These officers would have the power of arrest, and could immediately impose fines or issue community service orders.
Mongers may want to reconsider trying to fuck salesgirls and girls hanging out in malls, as the "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers" will be watching foreigners very closely.
Making a Filipino look foolish is also a crime, as they have the right to be as foolish as they want to be without foreigners pointing it out. LOL! Pointing out foolish mistakes by service staff could be skating on thin ice. The politicians are doing a great job of making the country a legal minefield for foreign visitors and expats.
Many new laws are going into effect that will land more mongers in jail.
Bill 1326, or the "Safe Streets and Public Spaces Act of 2017", seeks to penalise "catcalling, wolf-whistling, cursing, leering, groping, persistent requests for name and contact details and the use of words tending to ridicule on the basis of actual or perceived sex, gender expression or sexual orientation and identity in public spaces".
The new laws would be enforced by "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers". These officers would have the power of arrest, and could immediately impose fines or issue community service orders.
Mongers may want to reconsider trying to fuck salesgirls and girls hanging out in malls, as the "Anti-Sexual Harassment Enforcers" will be watching foreigners very closely.
Making a Filipino look foolish is also a crime, as they have the right to be as foolish as they want to be without foreigners pointing it out. LOL! Pointing out foolish mistakes by service staff could be skating on thin ice. The politicians are doing a great job of making the country a legal minefield for foreign visitors and expats.Since when has being a dickhead not been a risky proposition anywhere in Asia? Or anywhere that you are no longer on home turf for that matter.
WestCoast1
11-03-18, 08:32
Got the following login error message a bit ago when trying to log into ISG. It would have been 3:20 pm in Phils. Not sure what UTC means; GMT?
Note that this error is normal and expected for a brief period during nightly backups, which usually run between 4:30 - 5:00 am UTC. Please try again in 5 to 10 minutes.
Database Error Database error.
The database has encountered a problem.
Since when has being a dickhead not been a risky proposition anywhere in Asia? Or anywhere that you are no longer on home turf for that matter.It an be risky even on home turf as well.
Got the following login error message a bit ago when trying to log into ISG. It would have been 3:20 pm in Phils. Not sure what UTC means; GMT?
Note that this error is normal and expected for a brief period during nightly backups, which usually run between 4:30 - 5:00 am UTC. Please try again in 5 to 10 minutes.
Database Error Database error.
The database has encountered a problem.I get that message almost every day for about 5 to 10 minutes because I usually read the ISG in the morning (local time), when it's afternoon in the Phils.
And I think you can lookup yourself what UTC is. It's not the same as GMT.
It an be risky even on home turf as well.True but it's amazing how people can change once they leave home or are surrounded by others who are apparently subservient.
Enjoy, G.
WestCoast1
11-12-18, 16:46
Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. Pic attached from the site, seems to show Duterte glowering at Trump. Some examples, link on top, name of article underneath:
http://philippineslifestyle.com/british-jailed-philippines-2009-home/?fbclid=IwAR0_r5smeJ9vQxmtbQ4h14pnfzMUlzRb3A_T6wjR8B0dkaDktdTlYC8dS1A
British man jailed in the Philippines since 2009 'home in time for Christmas'.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/duterte-foreign-tourists-better-behave/
Duterte warns foreign tourists that they 'better behave' in the Philippines (article is a direct warning from the President for foreigners not to engage in political activity, references Australian nun Patricia Fox).
http://philippineslifestyle.com/you-report-or-we-deport-bureau-of-immigration-lays-down-law-to-foreigners/
You report, or we deport! Bureau of Immigration lays down law to foreigners (don't overstay your visa article, headline much harsher than needed).
http://philippineslifestyle.com/norwegian-shabu-cebu-city-centre/
Norwegian allegedly caught with illegal drugs in Cebu city centre.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/14-year-old-twin-girls-americans/
Americans arrested for allegedly sharing house with 14-year-old twin girls.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/deported-philippine-new-record/
Record number of foreigners deported from Philippines in 2017.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/holding-hands-british-arrested-girl/
British man arrested for holding hands with 14-year-old girl in Santander.
http://philippineslifestyle.com/cebu-city-american-sex-children/
American arrested in Cebu City for recording himself abusing children.
And so on. . .
Chocha Monger
11-12-18, 18:12
Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. Pic attached from the site, seems to show Duterte glowering at Trump. Some examples, link on top, name of article underneath:.There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white. They apply toxic creams to their skin and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to bleach their skins white. They are not anti-white but they are definitely anti-foreigner in a petty envious spiteful sort of way. Filipinos dream of putting the foreigner in the subservient position where they can extract his cash to fund an easy lazy luxurious lifestyle for themselves.
There is no grand aspiration to eject all whites and build an independently wealthy homeland. Almost every Filipino plan to acquire wealth involves ensnaring a foreigner or traveling to a foreign country to work.
Wicked Roger
11-13-18, 08:09
Recently a story was posted here from this site, about a foreigner who had been jailed for a long period of time. In giving the site the once over, it seems the site is fairly anti-foreigner. While reporting on the plight of many foreigners, many of the articles are negative towards foreigners. The articles are pro-Duterte and the headlines seem anti-white. Website seems to have a fixation on reporting what some foreigner has done wrong, and their incarceration or deportation. And so on..I would agree about the articles but disagree on the anti westerner etc. It is what it is and I think is set up to warn us about the perils of being there. Some of the articles are some what sticking the nose up and doubting some facts given by the main stream media. I red this as it is refreshing to see another viewpoint as some of the main stream media is clearly bias pro / anti the administration and has very selective reporting (and at times very poor) reporting standards.
Qantas has now transferred operations to T3 in Manila and I just passed through the brand spanking new PAGSS lounge assigned to them for Qantas Club and Business Class passengers.
What an amazing difference to the primitive lounge facilities that were previously available at T1!
Not only is it new and glitzy but everything is "state of the art" , actually works and they have so many attendants that I was half-expecting someone to hold my dick when I took a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134).
Now if only there was a smoother way of getting into and away from the whole bloody terminal.
...Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white...
Well said!
Wicked Roger
11-19-18, 19:08
Qantas has now transferred operations to T3 in Manila and I just passed through the brand spanking new PAGSS lounge assigned to them for Qantas Club and Business Class passengers.
What an amazing difference to the primitive lounge facilities that were previously available at T1!
Not only is it new and glitzy but everything is "state of the art" , actually works and they have so many attendants that I was half-expecting someone to hold my dick.
Now if only there was a smoother way of getting into and away from the whole bloody terminal.Good news as I remember the 'lounge' for Emirates in T1 years ago where the mice would been in between the food at times LOL Added flavour to rather boring sandwiches LOL.
GoodEnough
11-20-18, 01:42
There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.
Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.
Blanquiceleste
11-20-18, 01:45
Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.+1.
You get what you give. What goes around comes around.
There is nothing new here. Chochamongers have never liked filippinas, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of filippinas but do not have much use for filippinas themselves as persons.
Chochamongers spend a lot of effort trying to get laid. They apply ED meds to their foreskins and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to restore libido. They are not anti-white, but definitely anti-foreigner in a petty, envious spiteful sort of way. Chochamongers dream of putting the filippina in the subservient position where they can extract sex to fund an easy lazy luxurious sexlife for themselves.There it is.
Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.
GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.You are assuming CM has been anywhere. No field reports that he has been anywhere nor has he gotten any pussy.
In my experiences Filipinos have been pretty tolerant of foreigners to say the least. And especially for the least of the foreigners.
Amazing that I've lived here for 17 years, have a Filipina wife, and dozens of Filipino friends, have worked with Filipinos during all of that time and never realized any of this. I guess the reason that I've never come to this realization is that you've made an absurd generalization that is essentially baseless.
GE.Believe it or not but your view and CM's views of life here are both tainted by the same basis and from over extrapolation of the data.
There are some 100 plus million people on the islands; they like people everywhere will cover the full spectrum of views and attitudes throughout the population. To get a good statistically reliable estimation of the population you need to sample over 1,000 people chosen totally at random from the population. Even then you will only be within 3 to 4 percent of the actual population's attitudes on any given issue 95% of the time.
You both suffer from selection biases. In your case you are interacting mostly with people who are friendly to foreigners and therefore your data sample is overrepresented of people who are friendly to foreigners. In CM's case he interacts with people who are unfriendly to foreigners and his conclusions have a similar deficit but in the opposite direction.
That then leads to a confirmation bias. Let's say you both talk to the same individual, he states that he doesn't like foreigners who come here and take all the girls but like the economic activity that they bring. You would count him as a foreigner friendly person, just one with some limited reservations. CM would count him as a foreigner unfriendly person only interested in foreign money.
I'll also hazard a guess, not having ever met either of you that you are a friendly person. People will tend to naturally react to you in a friendly manner. I'the guess the opposite about CM. That would be a contamination of the results by interviewer interaction.
My personal view is that you cannot generalize about a population as diverse as the Philippines. You have everything from major metropolitan areas like Manila and Cebu to extremely rural and impoverished areas in the provinces. You will have a few people at the extremes, foreigner lovers and foreigner haters, you will have the vast majority of people in the middle with anything from no strong opinions either way to those who like and hate some of the issues with foreigners. (Remember at any given time there will be somewhere around a million of us here and we too will exhibit a wide range of behavior and attitudes that will be reflected back to us.).
GE,
It's all based upon the company you keep so you are both right.
It's always amazed me that people will complain about the alleged stupidity and untrustworthyness of a population, yet they keep coming back time after time, year after year.
If you don't like it or them it's pretty simple: Dont come.
Cheers.Hmm. Well, m sorry I can not pick your advice. I can not allow you to have them alone.
While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.
PedroMorales
11-23-18, 13:14
There is nothing new here. Filipinos have never liked foreigners, and their smiles are the same smiles crocodiles give dogs venturing close to the water. They like what they can get out of foreigners but do not have much use for foreigners themselves as persons.Filipinos spend a lot of effort trying to become white. They apply toxic creams to their skin and inject harmful substances into their bodies in attempts to bleach their skins white. They are not anti-white but they are definitely anti-foreigner in a petty envious spiteful sort of way. Filipinos dream of putting the foreigner in the subservient position where they can extract his cash to fund an easy lazy luxurious lifestyle for themselves.There is no grand aspiration to eject all whites and build an independently wealthy homeland. Almost every Filipino plan to acquire wealth involves ensnaring a foreigner or traveling to a foreign country to work.The skin whitening stuff really grates with me on so many levels. CM's other main point about Scam Central is logical and true, even if it is a generalisation. Low life hookers, like any other peddlers of raw meat, have their own lives and customers, as they call the Viagra Genetration, are, by an large, only transients there to pay the bill and, for the smarter ones, to leech on to. Most folk marry neighbours, not some hand me down Pinay hooker.
These Pinays are making wise choices, given their situation of living in a cleptocracy.
The real scum in tyher Philippines are the parasitic rich and those who support and empower them.
Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?
Cheers.
Engine Driver
11-23-18, 15:43
Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?
Cheers.I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.
In Cebu at one of the Mango Square bars, the mamasan said I couldn't take the girl out until I had bought four LDs in addition to the bar fine. I didn't quite get what was going on there.
Engine Driver
11-23-18, 15:49
While sitting out front of the ABC Hotel after dark last night enjoying the lovely ladies walking by a group of well dressed kids came by, two boys and one girl. I say well dressed bc what happened surprised me. The girl looked to be about 13 the youngest boy, about 7, the boy came up to me and said do you want my sister? At that point she walked over and told me the boy was her brother. I told her what her brother had said to me. I asked her how old she was and said 16. Ha ha. She said "do you know how to fuck, I do"? She says with pride. I guess 12 or 13 is doable in this place. I told her you are too young and they left after some hard sell talk. I know this happens but first time for me.A similar thing happened to me in AC. I was sitting at the front counter at Phillies, watching the world go by and a street urchin came past with his begging cup. He would have been about 7 years old. He then asked "Blow job sir?" I looked at the Brit next to me and we were shocked. I just told him to go away. Obviously, this sort of thing happens in AC and he would appear to have customers.
Guys, are any drinks bought in a girls home bar, after her bar fine is paid, normal drinks or are they still LDs?
Its the case in Sabang. Is this generally applicable everywhere? Manila, Cebu, AC, Subic?From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.
Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.
What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.
Engine Driver
11-23-18, 16:20
One of the cuties I barfined from La Bamba explained to me how the salary scales and incentives work at her bar.
Waitresses are paid 120 PHP per night and get to keep all tips. They also get commissions from LDs.
Dancers are paid 170 PHP minimum per night, but this can increase to 420 PHP per night depending on their sales for the previous week. They have a sliding scale. They work on the basis that 18 LDs are equal to one barfine. If a girl hits 75 LDs in a week, her salary the following week will be 420 PHP per night. A girl will generally need three bar fines a week (54 LDs) plus the reminder in drink sales to hit the maximum salary target. Girls generally get 50% of the barfine.
Now you know why they all order SM Apple Beer as that's a double LD, enabling them to hit the target sooner.
From my very limited experiences (in a few bars in Angeles and maybe in Sabang many years ago), it's up to you. It wouldn't make sense for the owner not to accept additional sales. I guess each bar would make its own policy.
Of course the girl is going to want a lady's drink for her commission. And if I insist on a normal drink, I feel like a cheap charlie.
What's the current case in Sabang? LD? A good way to get info is to talk to a waitress you tip, without anyone around, and ask away.
I've never had that problem. As soon as I've paid the bar fine, she's off to get changed and then we're out the door! On a serious note, I don't know.I should emphasise I'm not out to Cheap Charlie the girls. I'm happy to buy LDs during the interview process and until I make up my mind. No hard feelings if we don't leave together.
Generally I'm talking about when a few guys grab a few girls and hit the town. Often we return to the girl's bar after she has been bar fined for a few drinks. In this case I see no issue with buying normals as she is already guaranteed income from the interview LDs, a cut of the BF and any tip. It always makes more sense to me to give 100% of a tip rather than a portion of the LD.
I'm not big on hit and run STs but agree it would not apply in that case as no one would be hanging around in the bar (s).
Last time I was in Sabang, once you bar fined a girl all drinks were normals. Some would try their luck but it was never a problem when I pointed out that I had already paid the BF.
Engine Driver
11-24-18, 03:17
There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.
There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.I had to deal with all these aspects of mongering over the past 20+ years. Item #1 never bothered me, but many of my non-monger buddies love to hear my stories and look at my pics. It has become a routine, and a few ended making their first trip.
#2 is a big hassle for me, as I have another FB page for mongering. Very hard to maintain complete separation between the two, given that FB continually changes the meaning for various privacy settings. At times, it feels like they go out of their way to expose me.
#3, thru #7 were a concern for me early in my mongering life. Not anymore.
Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.
Wicked Roger
11-24-18, 19:49
Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.How long is a piece of string?
Depends on the day and time of your flight IMHO. I have done it in just over 2 hours but that was a quiet Sunday. I have done it on a Friday afternoon and that was just impossibly slow. If you assume you need to be at NAIA 2 hrs before the flight so 745 am then you leave mid morning (early) latest.
I am one to be at the airport early regardless of how good or bad the facilities there are. So I would allow 3 hrs at that time of day and leave around 430 am (latest).
Others will have differing experiences for sure so take all into account before making up your mind as much depends on the day.
Eszpresszo
11-24-18, 20:07
There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.
Personally, I got bummed out with regular relationships, so I quit dating, or even trying ordinary romances. I happen to prefer punting. If I get disenchanted with it, I will quit. If I ever meet someone worth dating, I'll ask her out. But at my age, it will be hard to find younger, attractive, physically fit woman who will submit to my wishes with no strings attached, low maintenance or ongoing obligations.
Manfield04
11-24-18, 20:17
You can leave AC very early in the morning, may be around 3. 30 or 4.00 a. a to reach Manila airport (NAIA) at least three hours before your flight. But it is advisable that you leave AC one day before and stay in a hotel near Mall of Asia or Malate / Ermita so that you don't miss you flight. I have taken flights from Manila to Jakarta twice at around the same time 09 40 am And both times I stayed in hotels in Malate (Armada Hotel) / Ermita (Tropicana Suites).
Folks, I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.I personally don't like the stress of getting up early in the morning and driving for hours whether by car or bus to catch my flight. Several years ago was the last time I went by car on a Sunday afternoon to NAIA to catch a flight home. I had figured 3 hours driving time was plenty to allow for Sunday afternoon and I would be there 3 hours prior to flight time. It took over 5 hours driving and I barely made the cutoff time for baggage check in. 5 minutes later and I was watching people unload clothes into clear plastic airline bags to carry on the flight.
I travel a day or two before my flight to Manila and book a hotel in Pasay or Makati. I have a proven AC girl come with me or meet me in Manila for a pleasurable last night there. There are plenty of girls who are happy to travel to or meet me in Manila. I take care of the transportation and pay them the normal barfine amount. They usually go to NAIA with me and I put them on the Genesis bus back to AC from terminal 3.
There's an interesting discussion on the Thailand board about feeling down during a mongering trip. This is very common and I think its due to a number of reasons:
1. Travelling on your own and no one to share your experiences with. Loneliness on the road is a constant reminder to get back home.
2. Having to keep the hobby a secret from the people back home and the constant alert state needed to maintain the double life.
3. Fear of missing out. Gee, Mongerer A is having more fun than me and so I need to bang just one more chick tonight.
4. Not wanting the fantasy to end and the reality that you have to get back to your day job.
5. The whole sex industry is so corrupted to the core that your normal values and morals get severely tested.
6. Performance anxiety and not knowing whether your ageing cock can keep performing.
7. Dying libido. Cock medicine can give you a boner, but does nothing to boost your desire.Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.
To counteract the feelings I do the following -.
1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.
2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.
3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.
4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful.
I always keep it firmly planted in my head that I have the $$ and they want it. I am not an arrogant bastard but won't let them dictate or let them feel like they have the power of the pussy. One of my favourite lines is " I don't HAVE to fuck you, there is a girl 10 minutes away who will want to and if I don't fuck tonight I know I will probably fuck tomorrow night" Remember you are over 50 - how many fucks have you had in your life? Exactly. Do you think if you miss out on 1 its going to make any difference?
5. Post trip depression doesn't hit so hard when you know 3/6 mnths you will be back again. Keep it in perspective.
6. Time with the girls is a business transaction. Its $ for sex. Keep it that way. Yes there can be feelings but chances of something real and long lasting is about 2%.
7. To me there is no difference between a girl cleaning my apartment, giving me a massage or having sex with me (I know others disagree) They are using their body to provide me with a service and they get a payment for it. - Women do it all over the world for $, prestige or security and its not called prostitution its called marriage.
So that's just my views. I may be way off. But then again the most important question I believe in life is. Are you happy?
If not, and I don't mean amazingly happy 24/7, change something.
NI.
Engine Driver
11-25-18, 04:37
Bear in mind, a lot of what is posted can be pure fiction. If it was so bad, you either wouldn't keep doing it, or you would have changed up your routine. No offense, but the reasons you gave run contrary to my logic. If it was common for posters to be "feeling down during a mongering trip", they'd probably quit mongering and never bother to discuss it here.
Going by your previous posts, you seem to be always critical of other people's views. Are you a psychiatrist to comment on mental health?
FFS, they are just points for discussion if people feel inclined to contribute.
Chocha Monger
11-25-18, 15:19
Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it.
To counteract the feelings I do the following -.
1. Realize its fantasy not reality. I see it as my reward for working my ass off and putting up with crap day after day in my normal life.
2. Luckily I have someone to come back to who I know will always be there. Touch wood.
3. I have learnt that 3 wks is about my maximum before I need to go back home and tire of the fantasy world. Work out what is your limit.
4. As in point 1 I keep it real. If I have a bad experience so what. Tomorrow will be better. Don't care what others get or do. What I get or do is what concerns me. Based on reports here I seem to get better than most. Not sure why but I think its because I be myself, treat girls as people and have a realistic attitude. If I can't perform I just laugh. I know there will come a time when this will all end. Enjoy it while I can. I find bad experiences are more of a nuisance than stressful..An aged cock prone to going limp at the most inopportune times, saggy balls, and depression about not being able to get it up are all part of being an old man. It is all perfectly normal, as is libido falling off a cliff with increasing age. Old man mongers need a combination of antidepressants, testosterone replacement therapy, and Viagra to keep it up and going beyond 55 years of age.
Research shows that antidepressants restore lost libido in defeated male lobsters to the point where they would return to fight the dominant male again for the rights to fuck female lobsters. The same basic concepts apply to depressed aged mongers with cock problems. They should consult a geriatrician and look into gerontology services that support elder sexual changes.
Folks,
I plan to be in AC early next year. On my return trip, I am scheduled to leave MNL airport at 9:40 am, for an international departure. I am wondering at what time I should leave my hotel in AC. I would appreciate any hints from experienced mongers.
My experience from past travels is not very good. This past January, It took me 4 hours get from AC to my hotel in Makati, in a private taxi, on a Saturday afternoon.
Thanks.It depends on what day you are going. Generally speaking, travel time will take you about 1. 5 hours through Roxas Boulevard and Macapagal Ave and into the new express ramp that leads to the airport to avoid the traffic at EDSA. I usually stay in Ermita area the night before my flight so I won't rush and still enjoy a good morning shag.
BrainDrain
11-26-18, 06:27
Am over 55 and having similar thoughts. Sometimes I think it may be better staying home and mongering here than travelling but travelling gives you that freedom and home often has that sameness about it..4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.
Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.
BD.
BrainDrain
11-26-18, 22:32
4 weeks ago I promised myself I would do that. But the transactional nature of western style mongering on home soil is just so bad. Pay you money and you get one hour. If overseas in Asia, pay one fifth of the price and she stays all night. Pay less for short time.
Case in point, one hour in a AMP here costs AUD $60 + $100 for inclusive extras. That's about P6,500 for one hour (deduct time for washup, shower and dressing). Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey.
BD.I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines. Unfortunately the member doesn't receive messages from me for some reason. Having gone to the time to write a reply to that person, I'm just going ot post it here.
"Or go to AC for P1,500 enjoy any overnight honey".
If you add cost of getting to Phils (AIRFARES , taxis , trains , buses , whatever) and cost of hotels , restaurants , and risk of STD's , corrupt police , inability of girls to communicate at a decent level , you are paying MORE , much more for Phil sex , with added health and personal safety risks , etc. Add pollution , being hassled in the streets , to the mix..Well I'm a top tier frequent flyer and the company pays my airfares. The flying is fun.
My company pays for airport transfers when I use them.
I get a daily travel allowance of AUD190 or P7,220.
Medicare covers blood tests and PBS subsidies medicines.
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.
If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.
Return Genesis bus (leaves from CP terminal) $20.
Stay in my AirBNB FR 7 nights $140.
Girl (s) per day $50/ day $350.
7 days of sex with overnights for under $1,000.
Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.
I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines.
.....
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.
If I was self-funding then I would take a return $462 Cebu pacific flight SYD-MNL.
....
Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.$AUS 462 is about a quarter the cost of a return flight from North America. (My last one was $CDN 2200 or so).
Changes the economics slightly, especially for people on short trerm visits. I just stay long enough to amortize the flight cost over a couple hundred girls LOL.
WestCoast1
11-27-18, 04:15
$AUS 462 is about a quarter the cost of a return flight from North America. (My last one was $CDN 2200 or so).I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.
Well I'm a top tier frequent flyer and the company pays my airfares. The flying is fun.
My company pays for airport transfers when I use them.
I get a daily travel allowance of AUD190 or P7,220.
Medicare covers blood tests and PBS subsidies medicines.
For me Philippines is cash flow positive.Aaah, the trials of a Hardship Posting. 😁.
My introduction was a loading on top of a tax free salary to compensate me for the difficulty of living in Asia.
I actually had to go see an occupational psychologist to help me cope with the stress of the new environment. Company Policy, they said. 🤤.
I shit you not 😁.
Actually, if you want a laugh the books of the same name are a comical summary of living and working in the region:
https://stulloyd.com/portfolio/hardship-posting-book/
I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.SQ regularly runs special fares out of EWR, IAH, LAX, & SGO, and likely starting next years out of SEA, to various Asian destinations, including MNL. Usually requiring a stop in NRT, FRA, DME, or ICN. But, it's hard to beat service on SQ, even in Economy.
BrainDrain
11-27-18, 05:29
For some reason I cannot reply to this member who takes it upon themselves to message me. Once again here is my reply.
No Company pays you anything , and even if they did , you conveniently left that info out when you said in effect whoring in Phils is cheaper. As one poster said , in response to your weak effort , he needs to fuck 100 chicks to amortize the air fares etc. Most of us are two week tourists = airfare , hotels etc make whoring in Phils expensive. We are talking about two week tourists , not wannabe jet about Execs , lol.
Best not mention Australia , your putting it down , every time you mention it. Dummy to Dummies ... a match made in heaven.I'm not sure what you are talking about? Let me know if you want assistance on how I arranged my life in order to live my dream. It may no be your dream. I have a lot of fun.
Cheers.
I receive some PM feedback on my claim of being better value in Philippines. Sure beats the Australian equivalent of fucking Chinese farm girls on massage tables.
BD.Current price in BrisVegas is 7500 peso for 1 HR of "dodgy" quick fuck on a massage table with variable looking ML.
No comparison as far as I am concerned.
NI.
For some reason I cannot reply to this member who takes it upon themselves to message me. Once again here is my reply.
Quote Originally Posted by Sxxxx
No Company pays you anything , and even if they did , you conveniently left that info out when you said in effect whoring in Phils is cheaper. As one poster said , in response to your weak effort , he needs to fuck 100 chicks to amortize the air fares etc. Most of us are two week tourists = airfare , hotels etc make whoring in Phils expensive. We are talking about two week tourists , not wannabe jet about Execs , lol.
Best not mention Australia , your putting it down , every time you mention it. Dummy to Dummies ... a match made in heaven.
I'm not sure what you are talking about? Let me know if you want assistance on how I arranged my life in order to live my dream. It may no be your dream. I have a lot of fun.
Cheers.Mongering value is a very individual thing both in terms of activities preferences and cost.
While it may be expensive for Sx to get to PI, for others it is nearby and airfares are cheap. Don't forget that for others, the reverse journey get to his holiday spots can be equally expensive.
As an example, I was looking into going to some of the low price, developing country destinations as a change to PI. For me, air fares to Colombia or Madagascar are in the '000's of dollars and the return trip is about a week of airtime. It would take a lot of $10 girls to justify this compared to $500 flights of a couple of hours to PI or LOS.
While many visitors are tourists, there are also many posters who make the most of paid business trips while they are here. Some are even paid to live in Asia for years on a "Hardship Posting". 😁.
Departed Manila yesterday on an international flight, By the numbers at 10:30 am. In line at immigration A; 2000 persons standing, immigration be; 1000 persons standing. Number of times my suitcase and back pack went through an Xray scanner 3. Number of times my passport and boarding pass were looked at 4. Number of time I had to remove my shoes 2. It is not a good experience to say the least. Immigration / passport control was only manned at 25% of stations under an ironic advertisment for a new phone stating in two foot high letters a more intelligent solution. Ha ha. Wheel chair customers kept getting wheeled to the front of lines. I think my back will start to bother me next time, difficult to walk sir, please bring chair and pusher.
Blanquiceleste
11-30-18, 09:14
SQ regularly runs special fares out of EWR, IAH, LAX, & SGO, and likely starting next years out of SEA, to various Asian destinations, including MNL. Usually requiring a stop in NRT, FRA, DME, or ICN. But, it's hard to beat service on SQ, even in Economy.I am a PPS Club member on SQ. Yet I would say Emirates and Qatar Airways have better service. Objectively speaking.
BrainDrain
11-30-18, 15:22
I am a PPS Club member on SQ. Yet I would say Emirates and Qatar Airways have better service. Objectively speaking.On my very first Philippines trip when leaving through Mactan I naively asked the Silkair check-in agent for her phone number. The same girl also did the aerobridge duty where she handed me her phone number. Fast forward a few months and she came good at the Waterfront Hotel. She had originally trained as a nurse, drank beers like a trooper and was a genuine girl. Took up a two year contract in Middle East and never seen again.
I have fond memories of the SQ group airline.
BD.
On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.
I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?FT.5000 pesos is like 95 usd. I am thinking if that "is huge" for you, then the advice would be: get more money.
Eszpresszo
12-01-18, 04:03
I was looking at prices in the low season for next year. SFO or LAX to Manila is running in the low $600's USD for round-trip.Would you kindly remind us what low-season is for travel from the US to the PI? Thanks.
WestCoast1
12-01-18, 04:07
On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.You can taxi to the Bureau of Immigration office in Intramuros city, and extend your 30-day stamp to 59 days. Take your passport. There is a form to fill out. Fees work like this:
If you can leave your passport for 3 days, you pay approximately p2100. Then you return in 3 days and pick up your passport which will have the extension in it. If you want then to process the thing within 1 hour, you pay p3100 approximately (there is a Starbucks across the street, get a coffee there and read the newspaper). Having the Ayala store charge p5000 is not bad if they can do the 1-hour thing and get your passport back to you the next day. Factor in also your taxi and coffee costs if you choose to do it yourself.
Gents did I miss anything?
On my previous two trips to the Philippines I have been staying the standard tourist visa limit which I think is 29 days +/- On my next trip I want to stay longer, as long as 7 weeks, so I stopped into an Ayala mall store offering immigration work and asked them how I could stay for up to two months. The clerk there told me it was no problem and she would handle it for 5000 php. I said thanks for the info and left. I am thinking 5000 is huge and don't believe others are paying that for something I should be able to do myself. What advice do you guys have for me?
FT.DIY is 3 k for a 29 day extension to your initial 30 day visa on arrival. Available at any office but the smaller offices are much easier and less busy. Mine took 15 minutes at Battangas.
I forgot to extend one trip and the fine at NAIA was exactly the same. No receipt or stamp though so I may have just donated to the Immigration Agent's Christmas Fund. 😁.
Charm City Dave
12-01-18, 08:07
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.
https://g.co/fi/r/AV50AT
Gents did I miss anything?When I applied for a 29 day extension back in 2015 I had to fill in the names, adresses and phone numbers of 2 Filipino friends / acquaintances on the application form.
I don't know if they are still asking this but you can better be prepared.
You can make up two names and adresses if you don't know anyone (or if you don't want to ask the P4 P girls you know), because allegedly they are not checking anything. However I don't know if this is advisable.
I think I have shilled for google Fi here before. For americans it is a great international mobile voice and data service but I have used rather in extensively in many countries including columbia, the philippines, thailand, Cambodia, malaysia, Indonesia, Australia but you get the idea. You can save a few pesos getting a local sim card but for me the convenience of having my phone on an active wheels down in a new country is more than worth a couple of dollars period. The knock on google Fi used to be it didn't support a wide varriety of phones (I love my Pixel), but it now supports many Samsung and iPhone models. If interested see below, we both get a $20 services credit if you sing up. Feel free to mesage me with any questions.
https://g.co/fi/r/AV50ATMy elcheapo Lenovo takes 2 SIM cards which is handy to have local phone and data whilst keeping my usual number on roaming.
WestCoast1
12-01-18, 15:25
When I applied for a 29 day extension back in 2015 I had to fill in the names, adresses and phone numbers of 2 Filipino friends / acquaintances on the application form.
I don't know if they are still asking this but you can better be prepared.
You can make up two names and adresses if you don't know anyone (or if you don't want to ask the P4 P girls you know), because allegedly they are not checking anything. However I don't know if this is advisable.That part is still on the form (area for Filipino friend), but I left it blank. Re-upped 2 months ago in the province and had to fill out the same form again. I fill in the pertinent info: Name, my local address (hotel or condo), reason (tourist), the date you want to depart (within 59 days of arrival). Interestingly in the province they required a thumbprint scan (not required the last time in Intramuros).
In Intramuros the procedure has been: 1) Fill out form and then get directed to a window. 2) At window hand over form and passport. Wait 3-ish minutes while the Immigration officer works it on his computer. He asks if you want 1-hour or 3-day pickup; One hour thanks! He keeps the passport and prints out 2 sheets of paper. One is a payment bill for the p3100, the other is your background check he has just run on you. It says things like: YOU ARE NOT ON ANY WATCHLIST. YOU ARE NOT ON ANY BLACKLIST. 3) he directs you to a payment window, so you head over to that window and hand them the bill and p3100. They give you a receipt and say come back to yet another window in 1 hour. 4) Go get coffee and wait one hour. 5) Come back and report to the designated window and pick up your passport with new visa stamp in it (right next to your inbound stamp).
Engine Driver
12-01-18, 20:30
On this trip, I banged a couple of hookers bareback. This was the first time ever I've slipped off the condom in over 30 years of mongering at various places around the world.
Upon arriving home, I rang the government run sexual health clinic downtown and was advised that I would only need a you rine test for chlamydia and gonorrhoea. Luckily my girlfriend has her period and I have a couple days to get checked before I need to bang her.
What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?
What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?My "STD Packet" in Subic included those plus syphilis, HIV amd general UTIs.
Of course you need to be aware of incubation periods and lead times for different tests to be effective.
Engine Driver
12-05-18, 08:40
My "STD Packet" in Subic included those plus syphilis, HIV amd general UTIs.
Of course you need to be aware of incubation periods and lead times for different tests to be effective.Thanks, I went to a random doctor (not my usual GP) and he suggested I get the full packet, all paid by Medicare. I get the results tomorrow!
Engine Driver
12-05-18, 08:58
I feel a little disappointed when some local vendors try take advantage of my generosity. I was wandering around the few shops at T3 NAIA when a shoe shine boy approached me and said "May I polish your boots sir?" I looked at the time and there was still about 15 minutes before boarding, so I said, sure. I sat down on the elevated chair and he began polishing my boots. The conversation, initiated by him, then went in the direction of how life was so difficult in the Phillipines, how he has so few customers since everyone wears sneakers nowadays and how lucky I was to live in the west. He then mentioned that one gentleman tipped him a "pineapple" (an AUD $50 note, on account of it being gold in colour). A few minutes later, the service was completed. The list price was PHP 395 for a deluxe polish, so I took out a new 500 PHP note and told him to keep it. I figured 105 PHP was a reasonable tip for 10 minutes work.
As I was about to leave, he came up to me, and waiving an AUD $10 note, asked if I could exchange it to peso for him. A little puzzled, I pointed to the cambio about 20 metres away and told him to change it there. "No sir, they only offer 36 peso to the dollar. This is worth 40 peso to the dollar, so could you change it please?" WTF? I told him I couldn't change it for him and said to use the proper exchange service a few metres away. I would have been out of pocket only 40 PHP had I helped him, but what made him think that I should take the currency hit?
What would you have done?
BrainDrain
12-05-18, 10:17
What post holiday tests do the other mongers get when they return home after banging pinay pussy bareback?My GP has a macro that he uses for STI Screen, from memory it includes the following.
Chlamydia.
Gonorrhea.
Hep be.
Syphilis.
HIV.
HSV I & II.
Cannot test for genital warts.
For Australian Medicare card holders all of these tests should be bulk-billed IE free. The fact that you did the tests does post to the history though. They can be removed by accessing the records online and deleting them.
The results do not post to MyHealth record.
Have had three rounds of tests this year without any questions or lectures form the GP.
What would you have done?I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila!
WestCoast1
12-05-18, 12:29
I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila!Airports are going to hit you with higher costs for everything. In addition, shoe-shine guys work sporadically during the day; he's not collecting p395 every 10 minutes, he might be getting it twice a day.
I figured 105 PHP was a reasonable tip for 10 minutes work.Tipping is tricky in phils. What's appropriate? To tip, or not to tip? I find most gents tip here at the same approximate rate that he tips at home. If a guy says to me that he tips 20% at home (a cultural expectation maybe), then he's probably tipping 20% here (not a cultural expectation). There's maybe no wrong tip if it comes from the heart for service you feel is deserved. OTOH, any tip for just the sake of tipping might be a wrong tip. Over the years I've watched the number of service employees requesting tips (IMHO, and from my culture, a low-brow request) here increase. I went walking down Burgos one night recently and stopped into several bars and had one drink in each, just enjoying eye candy. On the way out the doors, the door guys at 3 bars asked me for a tip: "Tip for me sir?" "Lucky tip sir? For me?" Ick. Asking for a tip, ick. Mog's has a point: If you were to tip the shoe-shine guy p100 in Manila for a 10 minute job, would you tip the same guy at the airport in Butuan the same way? Its easy to say the same thing: P100 for 10 minutes work. However, many people in Butuan work a whole day for p200.
Engine Driver
12-05-18, 21:51
I would not have taken the shoe polish in the first place, because 395 peso is absurd. That's almost the minimum wage for a full day in Manila!I'm fine with the tipping. It's just the attitude. You give them an inch and they take a mile.
What else can you get for 395 pesos?
Ear candling plus tip.
10 kg of laundry in AC.
1 lady drink at Burgos.
4 short rides on a trike in AC.
Half of an inedible cheese burger from LAC.
1 chicken biriyani meal from the Arab restaurant near LAC.
A bottle of Tanduay rhum.
I'm fine with the tipping. It's just the attitude. You give them an inch and they take a mile.
What else can you get for 395 pesos?
Ear candling plus tip.
10 kg of laundry in AC.
1 lady drink at Burgos.
4 short rides on a trike in AC.
Half of an inedible cheese burger from LAC.
1 chicken biriyani meal from the Arab restaurant near LAC.
A bottle of Tanduay rhum.Some people discover the wonders of tipping and others don't. I have.
Engine Driver
12-06-18, 03:16
Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.
Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.I have not. Be careful of the clubs where the girls swarm you for drinks. Not only are the drinks way over priced but outrageous. A friend of mine went to one by chance and after 10 minutes decided to get out. They hit him with a 20 k bill for all the drinks for 5 girls! When he protested a couple intimidating gangsters came out and asked him if he had a problem? They then took his cell phone away from him. Lucky for him he didn't have much cash on him but he had his credit card. For fear of bodily harm he put the 20 k on his card.
After he told me the story I told him to object to the charge on his credit card bill. Which he did and the CC company removed the charge.
After he told me the story I told him to object to the charge on his credit card bill. Which he did and the CC company removed the charge.Just like that? Sounds like an easy way to have fun in these clubs. Pay by CC and then later let the CC company remove the charge.
Has anyone been to Air Force 1 lately? Or the big clubs like Pegasus and Classmate in QC? I understand you can easily drop 30 K in those places and not necessarily get a girl.Went their about a year back. Best is to skip the lounge and to go to the MP in the basement. That way you only pay for what you're looking for.
Just like that? Sounds like an easy way to have fun in these clubs. Pay by CC and then later let the CC company remove the charge.Yep, just like that in America. Most credit cards allow you to dispute charges within a certain amount of days upon receipt of the monthly statement. Upon filing a disputed charge the merchant has a certain amount of time to respond, if they don't respond then the charge is deleted. If they respond then the CC company will decided to drop it or not. Most charges due to fraud or extortion will be removed.
These are called charge backs to the merchant.
BTW, there are American CC that will give you a refund if the product is defective, stolen or lost within a certain time frame.
Blanquiceleste
12-07-18, 01:43
Yep, just like that in America. Most credit cards allow you to dispute charges within a certain amount of days upon receipt of the monthly statement. Upon filing a disputed charge the merchant has a certain amount of time to respond, if they don't respond then the charge is deleted. If they respond then the CC company will decided to drop it or not. Most charges due to fraud or extortion will be removed.
These are called charge backs to the merchant.
BTW, there are American CC that will give you a refund if the product is defective, stolen or lost within a certain time frame.Not just America. That is the way credit cards work all over. At least to the best of my knowledge.
These bars / clubs extort money all the time this way, from several unassuming customers. Most schmucks will not contest the charge, as they fear exposure or social shame. But when a case is reported to the Bank, they do exactly as DG mentions above. And then they evaluate the response from the merchant. Banks also have a way of telling which merchant claim is a reliable one and which isn't.
Gents,
I am planning my very first trip to The Philippines, and I have a few basic newbie questions regarding that all important resource. Money! I've RTFF. In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.
Under the circumstances, I will be restricted to using a debit card to pay for many goods and services (can't get any pesos prior to departure), as well as to withdraw cash from ATMs as needed for "other services" rendered. I will need to get some pesos upon arrival and know that there will be ATMs located at the airport. Also, I assume that ATMs will abound in the Makati area where I will spend a portion of my trip. But what about walking around in Angeles City? How available and accessible are ATMs in Angeles? I should confirm for Makati and Cebu too I guess.
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.
I am worried about accessibility (I need to be able to find one when I need one), withdrawal limits (high), and security (skim scams and such) though. So, if any of you seasoned Phils vets have any thoughts and / or suggestions around this that will help ensure a nice, worry-free trip, I would appreciate your feedback. Please feel free to contact me by PM too if you don't want to clog up the board with this inquiry, but all of us newbies reading could benefit from the most recent, updated information regarding this subject.
And that's it! You see you old, seasoned, grumpy geezers! I have done my research! I've RTFF! I've read many FFs! I know where to go and how to get there and how much it should cost, etc. But, I'm still not 100% straight on this one particular thing. Help a fellow monger out will you? And pinays here I cum!
Engine Driver
12-09-18, 00:53
Gents,
I am planning my very first trip to The Philippines, and I have a few basic newbie questions regarding that all important resource. Money! I've RTFF. In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.
Under the circumstances, I will be restricted to using a debit card to pay for many goods and services (can't get any pesos prior to departure), as well as to withdraw cash from ATMs as needed for "other services" rendered. I will need to get some pesos upon arrival and know that there will be ATMs located at the airport. Also, I assume that ATMs will abound in the Makati area where I will spend a portion of my trip. But what about walking around in Angeles City? How available and accessible are ATMs in Angeles? I should confirm for Makati and Cebu too I guess.
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.
I am worried about accessibility (I need to be able to find one when I need one), withdrawal limits (high), and security (skim scams and such) though. So, if any of you seasoned Phils vets have any thoughts and / or suggestions around this that will help ensure a nice, worry-free trip, I would appreciate your feedback. Please feel free to contact me by PM too if you don't want to clog up the board with this inquiry, but all of us newbies reading could benefit from the most recent, updated information regarding this subject.
And that's it! You see you old, seasoned, grumpy geezers! I have done my research! I've RTFF! I've read many FFs! I know where to go and how to get there and how much it should cost, etc. But, I'm still not 100% straight on this one particular thing. Help a fellow monger out will you? And pinays here I cum!The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you.
I take big bundles of dollars (cash) with me and change as required at the various cambios. They are available everywhere. Stay in a hotel which has a safe, and when you are travelling between cities, use a money belt for your cash.
There are plenty of ATMs in Angeles City. While walking around Angeles, only carry a few thousand pesos in your pocket at any one time. No need to carry your wallet. There are heaps of street urchins and trike drivers who will try and pick your pockets.
All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.
Engine Driver
12-09-18, 01:06
I previously wrote that it was incredibly easy to sit in my hotel room and compile a big list of girls wanting to come and meet me to fuck. I was just using WeChat and Tinder in Makati and AC.
Due to time constraints and my love of going to bars to pick up, I didn't get to take up most of the offers presented on social media. I was astounded as to how easy it was. I suppose the lazy monger could just stay in his air-conditioned room and send up a never ending supply of talent. It's cheap too at around 1500 - 2000 for ST. I can see how it can become addictive and why CSP and Skogis went on to perfect it
I haven't deleted these contacts yet as I might want to fuck them next year. Quite a few of the girls I didn't meet are now sending me requests for money. When I refuse, I quickly find out that they don't love me any more. The conversations from three different girls are below.
CallSign Papa
12-09-18, 02:42
I can see how it can become addictive and why CSP and Skogis went on to perfect it.In terms of online tools, my fake facebook account is my primary method of meeting new (and regular) talent. Never really used Tinder and on WeChat it's just to easy to get bait and switched. My FB account is about 4 years old now, so it's built enough content that it looks legit (important note: my friends list is hidden and i have literally had to block everyone on my real FB account, which requires upkeep when new friends are added).
With Facebook I get to see their photos and videos first, I get to chat to them, sound them out, get a feel for how frisky they're likely to get. Generally that takes time, unless I happen upon a pocket rocket (which is not unlikely in Manila). Rarely will they come straight to my condo, generally it would be lunch, dinner or drinks outside first. And that's for both our protection, but I'm not keen on having people over unless I know it's worth my time.
This MO works for me, because I live in Asia and get to Makati regularly. I don't imagine it would work so well for those jetting in from the States or Europe.
I'm also a big fan of the clubs in BGC (Xylo, Revel etc), where it's pretty easy to scoop up a fine young thing around 2 am when they've had their fill of agave. The plus side to the effort this takes is no bar fines, and if a girl wants money she's generally pretty forward about it once we begin the discuss the bumping of uglies.
With regards to girls constantly asking for help, I tell them the same thing everytime "you can ask me for help when we're in the same room", generally that pacifies them, incentivizes them and more importantly, shuts that shit down.
In terms of online tools, my fake facebook account is my primary method of meeting new (and regular) talent. Never really used Tinder and on WeChat it's just to easy to get bait and switched. My FB account is about 4 years old now, so it's built enough content that it looks legit (important note: my friends list is hidden and i have literally had to block everyone on my real FB account, which requires upkeep when new friends are added).I'm very cautious, almost paranoid, of FBs wide ranging tentacles. I once arrived home to find auto generated FB Friend suggestions for all the girls I had contacted on FC PL etc on tour. I can only assume the I had appeared as suggestions for them too. Needless to say, I shit myself and went on a mad delete and blocking spree. Now I do not have FB on anything I might use for hobbying.
Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?
The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you.
I take big bundles of dollars (cash) with me and change as required at the various cambios. They are available everywhere. Stay in a hotel which has a safe, and when you are travelling between cities, use a money belt for your cash.
There are plenty of ATMs in Angeles City. While walking around Angeles, only carry a few thousand pesos in your pocket at any one time. No need to carry your wallet. There are heaps of street urchins and trike drivers who will try and pick your pockets.
All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.Remember that if 10 k is not enough, you can do multiple transactions up to you home banks daily limit or until you have enough.
ATMs are everywhere especially in decent size towns so I prefer this to having lots of cash on hand. The only risk is that they can go off line for a couple of days at a time in smaller towns.
I arrive with 2 or more cards with banks that know I'm travelling so will not block them due to apparent fraud and just withdraw as I need. Much less to worry about than travelling with wads of cash.
I've only ever had one problem when a typhoon took out all the ATMs around Sabang and my hotel didn't have CC facilities.
The local ATMs do have a 10,000 PHP limit. That's not a bad thing as it also protects your exposure. You can change money at the airport or withdraw cash at the ATMs there. There is no need to bring pesos with you. All of your hotel expenses can be paid by CC or debit card. I wouldn't trust any of the smaller vendors with my CC. I always pay cash for meals, drinks, transport and girls. Cash is king in the Philippines.Thanks once again guys. I agree with you Engine Driver that cash is king, and I will be using cash to pay for the same things that you do. If I feel like I need to withdraw more than 10,000 at a time, then as Goferring suggests, I can make multiple withdrawals until I have what I need. I've booked good hotels with safes, so I can lock everything up. OK, I'm set! And I'm stoked about experiencing another of the world's top pussy capitals!
...Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?Yes, many times and that damn site does not seem to follow their own privacy rules. They seem to be changing them all the time, or they don't really follow their own rules. A constant struggle keeping my regular FB and mongering FB completely separate.
Lastly, can anybody advise which bank's ATMs are best? For me, "best" means fairly accessible (you spot them around) with a high withdrawal limit. I read that some of the banks, especially the domestic ones, have withdrawal limits as low as 10,0000 pesos at a time. That simply will not do! I know the place is relative cheap, but not that cheap! On the other hand, I also read that banks like Citibank and HSBC have limits at 50,000 pesos per withdrawal (that's more like it). I will be using a card from an American bank that will refund any and all transaction fees, so I'm not worried about incurring those.I have never been able to withdraw more than 10,000 PhP at a time from any bank, including Citibank and HSBC. Don't know why.
There are many ATMs in Makati, Angeles, Cebu etc., especially in the malls, however it's possible that not all of them accept your debit card, even when it's stated on the ATM that it does (eg. with the Cirrus-Maestro sign). This is the Philippines, just move on to the next.
I'm also using Western Union to send money to myself, to collect bigger amounts and avoid the ATM fees. But this might be a more expensive option for you since your bank refunds the fees.
Yes, many times and that damn site does not seem to follow their own privacy rules. They seem to be changing them all the time, or they don't really follow their own rules. A constant struggle keeping my regular FB and mongering FB completely separate.It's stated in their policy that they don't allow multiple accounts. They only want 'real' people and I think it's easy to understand why. Personally I try to keep my mongering activities as far away as possible from FB.
Keen Eye Joe 1
12-09-18, 11:10
Last week I drove down to Davao City. As I was strolling around the Rizal Street area, I had a brief chat with two streetwalkers. I'd estimate both were approximately 18-20 years old and were very cute and doable. I asked one for her short-time rate, which she quoted as 1,500 pesos. I wanted to visit a couple more bars so I declined and walked on. But if I were ready for action I would have offered her 1,000 pesos, which I believe to be a fair price.
At the next corner I encountered a short, dark, and rather homely 30 year old woman sitting on a plastic chair. During our conversation she admitted she was the "manager" of the ladies working on that street. As I wanted to learn more about the "business", I invited her to accompany me to a nearby outdoor bar to buy her a beer. She readily agreed and we spent about an hour together while I picked her brain for info.
During our time at the bar at least 10 girls checked in with her. All were under the age of 25 and most were pretty darned cute. I asked what the going rate was for short-time, and she replied it was normally 500 pesos for Pinoys but 1,500 for foreigners. I asked why our rate was so much higher she said it was because about half the foreigners pay that amount without question, while the other half bargains down to 1,000 pesos. I asked how many foreigners pay 500 and she said none ever try to negotiate it down to that level.
I then asked if I could have the most appealing girl for the Filipino price and she told me to wait while she found out. After a minute she returned and said the girl was ready, willing, and able. I asked whether the girl had the mandatory pink health-screen card, she she said she did. So I paid for our beers, handed the manager 500 pesos, and took my 19 year old cutie to a nearby 200 peso short-time hotel. Turned out to be one of the best price-value "dates" I've had in a long time.
This experience sure opened my eyes about the pricing game. I routinely pay 1,000 pesos for short time in my nearby cities of Butuan and Surigao here in Mindanao, and thought I was getting a pretty fair deal. Looks like maybe I've been spoiling the market here by overpaying a bit too much. Time for me to strike better deals.
CallSign Papa
12-09-18, 14:52
Have you ever had your fake account pollute your real account? Friend suggestions from one appear on the other? Contact become visible in inappropriate times etc?So my first step was to ensure that I created a new email address specifically for the account. That is the only "factual" information Facebook has about me. My location is set to Manila. I obviously haven't synced with any data on the various handsets I've owned over the time I've had the account, so I've had little bleed-over from my real account.
But it does happen, occasionally I see friends of a real friend suggested and they get blocked with extreme prejudice.
The main problem is that I have a friend list (not public) full of girls, about 360 currently (maybe 100 are regulars, the rest are prospects) and they 'Like' photos and videos I add or share. So the savvy girls will understand that my photos are liked by (for example) 40 people all of whom are girls in Manila. There's just no way around it, beyond not posting anything, which is more suspicious.
For me it's been a consistently great way of vetting and meeting new talent. Less surprises when panties hit the floor, and less drama. The irony is that I barely use my real account any more.
Wicked Roger
12-09-18, 17:39
Gents,
In fact, I've read many FFs for many months now and believe that I am well-prepared for the journey overall, but I have not found consistent and satisfactory information regarding the use of debit cards and ATM machines in The PI.Depends which bank, which card and which country the bank card is from. I and others have an HSBC account and can withdraw more then PHP 10,000 a day easily. So I would ask your bank as if I take my HSBC ATM to a local bank ATM (eg BPI) I need to withdraw PHP30000 in lots of either 5 or 10 so then I pay fees many times over.
Check the above and call your bank. If you don't have HSBC maybe open one for the trip if you need lots of cash in a day. Some have done this also.
Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? The website cost of $90 per month is too high for crap shoot results without recommendations from ISG. I am concened that the girls there will be looking for a second or third date before panties hit the floor, Also, there is of course a fee to the girls for their time as well, what is standard?. Lots of attractive babes there but I have not signed on with the site so do not know first hand because it is expensive signup. Another site, less well known, is Whats Your Price (WYP). I pulled one from WYP for a 500 php offer that she accepted. It was her first date from there and mine too so neither one of us knew what the deal was beyond the 500 so we just had our fun and I gave her another 1000 which she seemed just barely OK with and she left. Does anyone here ever use or know what the girls expectations are on the WYP site? I would use again if I knew more in case I pull a seasoned pro who will try to convince me of what the norm is and she is all BS.
Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? The website cost of $90 per month is too high for crap shoot results without recommendations from ISG. I am concened that the girls there will be looking for a second or third date before panties hit the floor, Also, there is of course a fee to the girls for their time as well, what is standard?. Lots of attractive babes there but I have not signed on with the site so do not know first hand because it is expensive signup. Another site, less well known, is Whats Your Price (WYP). I pulled one from WYP for a 500 php offer that she accepted. It was her first date from there and mine too so neither one of us knew what the deal was beyond the 500 so we just had our fun and I gave her another 1000 which she seemed just barely OK with and she left. Does anyone here ever use or know what the girls expectations are on the WYP site? I would use again if I knew more in case I pull a seasoned pro who will try to convince me of what the norm is and she is all BS.I have been on SA for a couple of years, and have been a paying member for one year now. I mostly use it to meet girls in the vicinity of my home in the US. I have met several girls using it in Manila, and am still in touch with one of them. In general, the girls ask too much for what they offer. Remember, the site is mainly for rich businessmen who have more money than time, and the girls know that. After a meet-and-greet, I had two girls tell me that she'd go back to my room for 10-12 K. They spoke English well but weren't 'all that'. There were prettier, cheaper girls available in Burgos Street, which is where I went afterwards. IN GENERAL, the girls on SA speak better English and may be a bit more educated and worldly, but you will definitely pay for those attributes. Also, an arrangement can be anything you want it to be, but most of these girls (especially the prettier ones) are looking for monthly allowances, even rent-free condos. Some will be offended if you offered a price for a night (I am not a prostitute! LOL). In my opinion, sign up if you don't mind paying a lot more money for a marginally better class of girl. However, there are others here who use it that may offer different perspectives.
I have been on SA for a couple of years, and have been a paying member for one year now. ...... In my opinion, sign up if you don't mind paying a lot more money for a marginally better class of girl. However, there are others here who use it that may offer different perspectives.I had a 2 month live in arrangement with a 21 year old hottie. She would not take any money but I did replace her phone that got lost. We did some travel as well that I paid for but no allowance.
Her family (so she said) wanted her to go home. I paid her ticket back to her island but she had traveled to Manila on her own dime.
Other girls from there were better than average quality and more money, they mostly wanted long term arrangements vs one night's fun.
AussieGaigin
12-10-18, 03:56
It's stated in their policy that they don't allow multiple accounts. They only want 'real' people and I think it's easy to understand why. Personally I try to keep my mongering activities as far away as possible from FB.I find it advisable not to give FB any phone numbers in your profile, despite their claims it improves your "security".
I have a couple of contacts to whom I am anonymous and use a separate phone number, but somehow they have my regular phone number (probably from using a dual SIM phone and calling them from the wrong number). FB found that number in the girls' contact lists and tried to match us up as friends.
I find it advisable not to give FB any phone numbers in your profile, despite their claims it improves your "security".
I have a couple of contacts to whom I am anonymous and use a separate phone number, but somehow they have my regular phone number (probably from using a dual SIM phone and calling them from the wrong number). FB found that number in the girls' contact lists and tried to match us up as friends.Also, it might not be good to let your girl know your full name linked to your regular FB account, if your account is searchable.
One regular searched thru FB, found me (my profile has my picture), and asked to "friend" me. You can search via names. I don't recall giving that girl my last name. Maybe she saw it on a bill I had laying around.
Anybody here use and can recommend Seeking Arrangements (SA) as a dating site yeilding good results? There have been several reports about Seeking Arrangement. Just do an advanced search with the keywords 'seeking arrangement'.
I had a 2 month live in arrangement with a 21 year old hottie. She would not take any money but I did replace her phone that got lost. We did some travel as well that I paid for but no allowance.
Her family (so she said) wanted her to go home. I paid her ticket back to her island but she had traveled to Manila on her own dime.
Other girls from there were better than average quality and more money, they mostly wanted long term arrangements vs one night's fun.That sounds like an ideal arrangement! I think if I lived in Manila, I would have more options on SA. I'd love to have several ongoing arrangements at once, with the girls at my beck and call on "retainer". Who am I in the mood for tonight?
PedroMorales
12-10-18, 17:44
During our time at the bar at least 10 girls checked in with her. All were under the age of 25 and most were pretty darned cute. I asked what the going rate was for short-time, and she replied it was normally 500 pesos for Pinoys but 1,500 for foreigners. I asked why our rate was so much higher she said it was because about half the foreigners pay that amount without question, while the other half bargains down to 1,000 pesos. I asked how many foreigners pay 500 and she said none ever try to negotiate it down to that level.Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.
Engine Driver
12-10-18, 23:18
Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.When men are on their death beds, they only worry about two things:
1. They didn't spend enough time with their children.
2. They didn't get enough pussy in their lifetime.
Don't worry about how much you paid or whether some guy spent 1,000,000 PHP on a 50-year MILF. Your dick only has a limited shelf life before it shrivels up and dies. Just use it while you can. You can always earn money, but you can't buy more time for your dick (okay Dr V can prolong it a bit, but your libido can't be fixed).
PedroMorales
12-11-18, 01:22
When men are on their death beds, they only worry about two things:
1. They didn't spend enough time with their children.
2. They didn't get enough pussy in their lifetime.
Don't worry about how much you paid or whether some guy spent 1,000,000 PHP on a 50-year MILF. Your dick only has a limited shelf life before it shrivels up and dies. Just use it while you can. You can always earn money, but you can't buy more time for your dick (okay Dr V can prolong it a bit, but your libido can't be fixed).I am of the Frank Sinatra school. As he got older, his singing accommodated his age by not hitting high notes etc. Quality over quantity. You're saying we should drink more Red Bull, eat more Jollibees, bed more farmers' daughters. I say no. Go for quality, not quantity in food, drink and women. Many, if not most of the reports would turn me off. A meat market is fine but we don't want to see the flies laying their eggs on tomorrow's dinners.
As we get older, we have to grow out of stuff as it no longer turns us on. I'm not into banging LBFMs like I'm a tuk tuk driver or a marine who's been at sea for 6 months. Can't do it and not too interested in doing it either.
I was looking at flights back to the Philippines to factor a holiday in between two other holidays I am taking. But I've decided to pass and will chill out at home instead.
The Philippines is not off the menus totally. Maybe in 2020 or late 2019. It is a long way to go for bad food and bad drink. Pedrito needs attention of course but that is cost / benefit. I must work out most bang for my buck and as I've had the whole menu at this stage, who knows?
CallSign Papa
12-11-18, 14:21
I'd love to have several ongoing arrangements at once, with the girls at my beck and call on "retainer". Who am I in the mood for tonight?To each his own SP, but I don't pay girls to visit, I pay them to leave after.
PedroMorales
12-11-18, 21:44
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xcBJ-vA5AoE
Spain. And Barcelona is Spanish. Leads the way. There is nothing different here from supermarkets. LBFMs are on the way out and, with good programming, the sex dolls have more life to them. The sex dolls can even talk and hold as good a conversation as the farmers' daughters. The hookers in Spain are not happy campers. They are Luddites.
I imagine the Koreans would be big into all this.
I am of the Frank Sinatra school. As he got older, his singing accommodated his age by not hitting high notes etc. Quality over quantity. You're saying we should drink more Red Bull, eat more Jollibees, bed more farmers' daughters. I say no. Go for quality, not quantity in food, drink and women. Many, if not most of the reports would turn me off. A meat market is fine but we don't want to see the flies laying their eggs on tomorrow's dinners.
As we get older, we have to grow out of stuff as it no longer turns us on. I'm not into banging LBFMs like I'm a tuk tuk driver or a marine who's been at sea for 6 months. Can't do it and not too interested in doing it either.
I was looking at flights back to the Philippines to factor a holiday in between two other holidays I am taking. But I've decided to pass and will chill out at home instead.
The Philippines is not off the menus totally. Maybe in 2020 or late 2019. It is a long way to go for bad food and bad drink. Pedrito needs attention of course but that is cost / benefit. I must work out most bang for my buck and as I've had the whole menu at this stage, who knows?
OK so this maybe a stupid question But I am trying to learn about the rules there.
So Stocks where good to me this last year and I been doing some investing in other countries. I have already done some in Colombia, and Dominican Republic since I go there a lot. So now I am looking towards the Phils. I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.
Engine Driver
12-14-18, 06:38
For the first time ever in my mongering life, I am thinking about taking a local girl with me to a beach side holiday resort in the Philippines. This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well. The procedure is that you make contact with the company or the girl directly and she comes to your hotel room for a massage at 500 PHP / hour. She is paid commission for the basic massage. Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.
The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.
I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.
Engine Driver
12-14-18, 07:09
Most folk think these LBFMs are different than any other commodity on offer and they forget they are tourists even when they are in tourist areas like Pampanga and Manila. The women are merely jacking up the prices to what they can get away with. I've paid 200 PHP for sex in Davao BTW.Pampanga is a very large province and not all of it is a tourist area. By tourist area, I assume you mean Angeles City, and more specifically, the red light district around Walking Street, Fields Avenue and 21st Street.
Any money she makes on up-selling eg. hand job, blow job, B2 B or full service goes directly to her.I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.
The question I have is what sort of EWR payment would I need to make to her boss so that she can skip work for a few days? Also, what would be an appropriate daily tip for her? I would only pop once a day. I would cover all travel expenses.
I haven't raised this with her yet as I don't want her to get her expectations up in the event I decide to travel on my own.Mine just told the bar she was going home so no EWR / Bar fine payable. Mamasan got a small kick back from the girl but I wasn't involved and didn't pay directly.
I just paid the equivalent of her basic wage prorated for two weeks. Hence she got 1500 tip every day* she was with me but no BF, drink, dancing etc money. She was happy with this.
* at the time Sabang girls were 1500+1500 and they got a cut of drinks and dancing money.
The whole story, good and bad:
Hi guys,
Just a post on a trip I am having to highlight some of the risks and rewards of taking a multi day / week trip with a BG.
During my last trip to Sabang...
OK, so the trip above is now finished. Her attitude improved over the second week but still wasn't all that I had hoped for.....
I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.Years ago I met a uniformed street massage girl. I would have her give me a massage and she would only do a HJ. She claimed to be a cherry girl and the manager set the price around 20 k. She claimed the manager would get half of the money. She also said the woman manager would check her Pussy after each night. About 2 months later she was still a cherry and by now I was doing her orally. One night she just wanted to get it over with and said to just give her 5 k. After going down on her I couldn't resist. So I slowly tried to enter her but she was so tight I had lube up with lotion. After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain. Meanwhile the manager kept calling her every hour. I could hear her arguing with the manager in Tagalog and some broken English like I don't care, you can have all the money, I just want to rest and sleep.
Turns out she didn't get any of the 5 k, it all went to the manager for the time plus half of what the manager should have gotten. Apparently out of the 400 peso massage the girl got 100 plus half of the tip. If you look the girls uniform only has a few pockets.
And they come to work empty pocket plus their cell phone. This girl was part of a 8-10 girl staff. They all roomed together and and couldn't go anywhere by themselves. Also most of the girls were from the same city in Pampanga. I do believe these girls were closely watched and there will be some kind of rate to be paid if you take them on a trip.
Wicked Roger
12-14-18, 15:51
I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.There has been chatter on this before but some time back.
Apart from the obvious 'do you trust any family member of your ex wife?' then there is adage that if you want to make a million in the Philippines then bring 10 million.
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. Also I no some who pinoy partners were nice at first as the foreigner paid the inventory then had him arrested on a charge and then he left the country with the debts and his pinoy partners kept the assets.
Strange old world sometimes and each to his own but I would search the board for some old information on this, speak with some expat bar owners and get a feel. If you want to put your money and earn interest I can send you my bank account details LOL Safer there by far LOL.
After about 10 minutes of slowly stroking her she threw me off of her claiming the pain was so great. I didn't believe her at first but she coiled up fetus like. Then laid there for the next 6 hours in pain.That is my greatest fear about taking a cherry girl. It sounds like only the manager enjoyed that experience.
BrainDrain
12-14-18, 23:11
This girl works for a Makati based massage company and has her own profile on WeChat and TanTan as well..Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.
The app is described as.
Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.
Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.
Unrestricted Web Access.
Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.
...
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. ......Bars and restaurants are the worst investment possible, world wide not only here.
Lots of competition. Easy to get started in a low end restaurant.
Rely on low paid employees, lots of no shows of staff and one bad day for a staff member can [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off lots of customers.
You are at the mercy of suppliers.
Customers have lots of options, go to your place, go elsewhere, eat and drink at home etc.
Big risk on what and how much supplies to order, will you have enough people in to eat it or will they stay home because of weather? Running out just about as bad, people will go next door and may like it better there.
Engine Driver
12-15-18, 02:51
Can you share some more info about TanTAn. Appstore reviews are 3/5 but how about the pussy.
The app is described as.
Frequent / Intense Sexual Content or Nudity.
Infrequent / Mild Profanity or Crude Humor.
Unrestricted Web Access.
Infrequent / Mild Mature / Suggestive Themes.I've only used it in Sydney. I'm rather curious as well. I guess it's tinder without the regulation!!
Tantan is a Chinese version of Tinder, a straight out copy. I went on this and within a couple of days had amassed a reasonable number of matches and started chatting to some very hot looking Chinese girls. They didn't seem like outright hookers as the conversations never went that way. Just wondering why such pretty young things would be interested in me? Is this a scam?
A couple of them very quickly diverted me to WeChat to continue chatting. One insisted that we continue on smmi (or something like that), but this was a pay-to-chat service, so I declined. She then said she can't speak to me anymore. The red flag was up at this stage.
Does anyone have any more info as I'm intrigued.
Engine Driver
12-15-18, 03:03
Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.
Wicked Roger
12-15-18, 03:45
Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.Nice one ED.
Sometimes I would buy the kettle and rice cooker instead of cash as this is more beneficial. In the past I would take the to the supermarket and fill a basket or two. They choose and invariably is rice and hot dogs, tuna etc. That gesture is small to us but large to them plus of you see her again you will get a good GFE etc and I she has friends and shares you are in clover.
As for 'expenses' add the list fees for exams, fees for next semester or they owe credit and kid / sister etc can't attend until is paid before Christmas. One old friend got a note from one of his ladies, typed but unsigned supposedly from the landlady asking for pesos (not an insubstantial amount) for building repairs on the place she rents as an advance of the girl's rent. Thus her landlady wanted him to pay for the house repairs and assumed this could be advanced rental for the girl. He can't see how he benefits from this given he won't be back the country for a long time. Logic never strong for some LOL.
Chocha Monger
12-15-18, 05:13
Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.You do realize that your sending her money for not asking ironically creates the expectation and the likelihood that she will ask for money in the future. Hence, your generous gift of free cash will corrupt her heart of gold and she will no longer be a sweetie. Most likely, she will turn into one of gold digging mendicants that you dislike. Good intentions sometimes have distasteful consequences.
I am not a big Ayn Rand fan but charity is not always good. In the Philippines, charity is very harmful when practiced without very specific conditions that increases the recipients' self-reliance. Too often giving Filipinas cash just makes beggars of them, as this creates the expectation that foreigners should give handouts from their bottomless pockets. That Western Union remittance may very well lead to the girl paying for a few liters of Red Horse beer, a cartoon of cigarettes, and a room at Sogo where her drunken trike driver boyfriend will fill her with cream pies. She will then begin the New Year as an expectant mother, and ask you for cash to pay for the birth, pampers, and milk, as the trike driver boyfriend has ran off.
Sorry if you find this upsetting but I have seen this kind of thing before, and contributed to it in the past before seeing the unintended train wrecks that resulted. I created my share of monsters. Paying directly for medical attention or job training is good charity. Giving a Pinay cash is bad charity.
Pinays blow cash the same day it hits their hands. This is the real reason they do not have bank accounts. Even if you send her 50,000 pesos, she will blow it within 24 to 48 hours, and she may not buy anything that benefits her over the long term.
BrainDrain
12-15-18, 06:04
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker..The country is stacked against them having bank accounts. Union Bank needs a average monthly minimum of P50 k which I think they increased to P100 K to avoid fees. Metrobank needs a minimum of P2 k balance otherwise P300 monthly fee.
If they do have the cash then the identity requirements kick in. That's also painful.
BD.
OK so this maybe a stupid question But I am trying to learn about the rules there.
So Stocks where good to me this last year and I been doing some investing in other countries. I have already done some in Colombia, and Dominican Republic since I go there a lot. So now I am looking towards the Phils. I have already talked to a family member of my ex-wife there. And going to start a restaurant in a small city, and the price is not bad at all. But now I want to do more. I want to do some thing like a bar, or a club in a big spot. Does anybody have any info on this.
Do you think bars make money? Some for sale if that your preference but I know ex bar owners who lost a packet for various reasons. Also I no some who pinoy partners were nice at first as the foreigner paid the inventory then had him arrested on a charge and then he left the country with the debts and his pinoy partners kept the assets.Foreigners that have done well opening bars and restaurants have two things in common: they have access to enough cash to do it properly and they have the skills and or partners to know how to set up and run the business.
Conversely failures are poorly funded and started by people who think it would he a fun thing to do.
No offense Cbear but asking for advice on how to open a restaurant or bar, in a foreign country, on a sex based bulletin board is a sign of a lack of experience in the hospitality industry, overseas HR, tax, immigration and business requirements.
Putting up your own cash while you make mistakes learning these skills is not a good plan.
Along with others' stories of rip offs, corruption and unfair competition I would encourage you not to underestimate how much hard work it is to establish these businesses. 14 hrs would be a good day.
If you have done well in stocks, surely a plan would be continue doing what has worked and use the passive income in US dollars to fund pesos for a life of pleasure??
If you still want to start your own operation, I'd suggest you go manage someone else's first. It will give you a real look at the good and bad of the job and some experience that you may put to use later. If you then decide it's not for you then you haven't lost much.
Engine Driver
12-15-18, 11:49
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.
Engine Driver
12-15-18, 11:57
I'm not so sure about that. A massage girl once told me she had to give half of her income acquired from up-selling to her 'manager'.
This might have been a sob story but it would't surprise me if it was true. So be prepared that you have to pay her 'manager' too (indirectly) when you take her on a holiday.It depends on who you speak to. One girl told me that she gets a 25% cut of the base massage fee and the extras are pocketed by her. Another girl said that she needs to share the extras with her boss. When I asked her how would her boss know what she was doing in the hotel room with the client, she just gave me a wry smile and winked at me. Yet another time, when I fucked a massage girl and gave her a 1,500 PHP tip, she said for me to not tell her company about our extra activity.
Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.ED, good job. Keep in mind that WU has the strictest ID requirements. Other transfer agents might not be as tough.
On another ID note. Recently I was asked buy an airplane ticket online for a girl and she would pay me back, which she did. The problem after purchase was she didn't have an ID. Short story was she went and got a Barangay picture ID the same day for I think 50 pesos. They had no idea who she was. LOL. It was good enough to get on the plane. Not good enough to pick up money.
Soapy Smith
12-15-18, 17:40
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.In my experience "hand to mouth" is also a way of thinking. I have often wondered if, for many of the poor, it's actually learned in the provinces. We eat when the bananas, or mangoes, coconuts, or rice are ready, or when the fish are schooling nearby. When none of these are available, we either borrow from neighbors or go scrounging for the marginally edible stuff. I may be exaggerating a little, but in general I've seen fewer fat Filipinos in rural areas. When life is tied to subsistence farming then the notion of money salted away in a bank account doesn't make much sense. I suspect that aid from the USA During territorial days and from philanthropic and humanitarian sources more recently, especially after disasters, has contributed to a sense of dependency that undermines self-sufficiency in some Filipinos.
Moneygram usually has a better exchange rate and sightly lower fees than WU, but some rural communities may have only WU. I believe ID requirements are about the same for both Moneygram and WU.
They can sometimes be a pain in the ass. I once sent money to a close friend who has two first names. But the agent at my end typed in the second of the names as a middle name. When the agent in the Philippines pulled it up on a screen it showed only the first of the two names, and the Moneygram agent would not turn over the money, because the recipient's ID showed the two first names, instead of the one she saw on her screen. I texted a photo of my receipt, which showed both names, and that seemed to convince the agent. But this all took about 24 hours.
Sometimes people who are otherwise not very influential like to exercise the little power they derive from their access to powerful people, information, or decision points in systems. This may be somewhat exaggerated in the Philippines since power rests disproportionately in the hands of a few people, and average Filipinos are therefore relatively powerless. Organizations and systems in the Philippines are often quite rule-bound, unless you have personal network connections or are willing to bribe or otherwise reward and cajole people.
Lots of girls I am in contact with are dropping hints that Christmas is fast approaching. A few have been more direct and have said the bills are mounting up, need to travel to the province, mom's had an appendix operation etc and could I help? I've just ignored them and changed to the topic to the weather or have just deleted the rather pesky ones.
There's one sweetie who has a heart of gold and hasn't mentioned a thing about Christmas or money. She's going to be beneficiary of Engine Driver's benevolent fund. So I asked this girl for her bank account details so I can transfer some money through Western Union. I was a little shocked when she said she doesn't have a bank account. Then it dawned on me that some people are so poor, they have no need for a bank account, living a hand to mouth existence. Like DG said, some girls don't even own a kettle or a rice cooker.
Not a problem. I will send the money to WU in Makati and she can just pick up the cash after showing her ID and the password for the transaction.
Charity is good.Charity is good?
The problem is although you showed good intentions in helping more often in Philippines it is connotationed as weak, do not care about money, will yield to any and all requests, pussy worshipping fool etc.
Many a time it is not girls fault. It is their family and friends who will tell her to try to get money. Case in point is a very pretty girl I dated before. She was nice, easy going, did not care how much I gave, did not care where I took her. I made the mistake of sending money for her birthday enough to enjoy with her family. Soon after that demands came for this and that and I told her I am not sending money to support her family. Then the demands stopped. She became back to no demands. Of course I send some money for her when I felt like it. The moral is you need to control. It does not matter if she leaves you. There are plenty more.
Those who are trolling for foreigners are essentially looking for money. At first they want to be married and whisked away for a comfortable life. Pretty soon they realize it is just sex mostly. Then they want money for support.
While ago I met a 18 year old girl from Cebu. She had no intention of getting or trying for a job. I understand jobs are hard to come by in Philippines but trying is a must. You see lots of girls working in super markets who seem to be concentrating in working hard and earning money. I told her she needs to look for a job for her future. At my insistence she got a job in a Korean restaurant. Although pay is low she gets experience and self motivation. After few years she got a job in Middle East because of her experience. Every girl I am with same story. I took one girl from the provinces to Manila. There I told her to go in and ask for a job in many of the recruiting businesses by herself. She was interviewed right away by an Arab and offered a job in Saudi Arabia. She was given two options. One is to pay 20000 pesos to arrange passport and other expenses which I believe is the agency commission. Other is she needs pay money every month till it is paid up after she goes to Saudi. I was willing to pay the money. She goes home and tells me she does not want the job. Right now she had a baby with somebody and struggling to get by. I refused request for money. This is the mindset.
<SNIP> I suspect that aid from the USA During territorial days and from philanthropic and humanitarian sources more recently, especially after disasters, has contributed to a sense of dependency that undermines self-sufficiency in some Filipinos.
<SNIP> You can go back further than that SS. Read Rizal's book "Noli me Tangere" to see how the residents depended on handouts from the landowners and the church. It was ingrained then and has persisted for well over the recent 100 plus years.
Quick update on this. A forum member advised me that most of the Pinays in the esteemed circles we move in neither have a bank account nor valid ID. This was the case with this chick. Therefore I sent the money to her cousin for collection. She has a valid ID and was able to collect from Western Union. Another problem solved.I agree. I find direct provision of micro credit to unbanked single moms more effective. Financing is normally capped at 1500 or 3000 p to ensure equitable distribution.
Long Live Capitalism. 👍.
Soapy Smith
12-16-18, 21:35
You can go back further than that SS. Read Rizal's book "Noli me Tangere" to see how the residents depended on handouts from the landowners and the church. It was ingrained then and has persisted for well over the recent 100 plus years.I don't want to demean his stature as a martyred novelist, but I wonder if Rizal's recall was somewhat tainted by his own class background. As I recall the family previously owned a substantial estate in Calamba. Then Rizal's father or somebody in the family pissed off Spanish officials and they were stripped of much of their property. So perhaps, reflecting from his experiences in a landowning family, he might recall the handing out to peasants as more generous than it actually was. Obviously speculation on my part, but novelists do have license to depict circumstances in a more romantic light than others might recall.
I've read some accounts from a much earlier period that describe the early Spanish governance structure. They appointed officials, primarily Spanish and a few trusted Mestizos, to govern at all levels on down to the local level. Except they provided them no funds for carrying out their offices. Instead they gave them free hand to collect whatever taxes they could, usually in the form of a percentage of the harvest. Each higher level official then imposed these same tolls on lower level officials. The Spanish set up most of their colonies in an extractive model, getting out as much as possible while expending as little as possible, as opposed to setting up enduring institutions that would permit the locals eventually to be self-governing.
One Spanish cleric from the earliest period described the injustice of the system that extracted these resources from people already living near starvation. So one explanation of history may be that the colony transitioned from one that preyed on the poorest to one that provided charitably to the dependent poor. Another interpretation may be that, from Spanish colonization onward, those that own the land have never really had a first-hand understanding of the lives of the landless.
Having originally cast the scene as dependency, I can see that from another angle it might be depicted as intentionally propagated helplessness.
Engine Driver
12-16-18, 22:47
Except they provided them no funds for carrying out their offices. Instead they gave them free hand to collect whatever taxes they could, usually in the form of a percentage of the harvest. Each higher level official then imposed these same tolls on lower level officials.
One can say that not much has changed in 300 years. The Barangay Captain's official salary is between 600-1000 PHP a month, but I think they do very nicely in other ways. LOL.
I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts on international travel and like everything here it appears to be a mixed bag of outcomes.
I'm looking for some recommendations to make it as smooth as possible and to increase my chances of getting them through and on the airplane.
Should I be with them at the airport or have them travel alone?
Are some ages more a target for questions than others? How about past travel experiences etc. ?
What documentation should I make sure that she has?
They can get visa on arrival here but can also obtain one in advance at the embassy in Manila. Should they get the visa first or rely on visa on arrival. I am leaning to having them get it first.
Is it better that I pay for the ticket or should she do the complete booking in her name? (Some of the girls I'm chatting with about coming here I trust to send airfare directly but not all of them.).
Would I be better off not looking in Phils but looking at girls from Indonesia or Singapore or elsewhere as the hassle of Pina getting past Immigration is to great?
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.
Albert9989
12-21-18, 01:05
I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.Don't know if it will help but I can at least talk about my experience during my 1st trip in Bali, was in 2016.
I had chatted long time before with an Indo girl studying in KualaLumpur, and when I was on the ground in Bali, I didi chat with her again, and had the idea to propose she come for a week end to meet me there in Bali.
She agreed, so I propose to send money for the ticket but she prefer me buying ot in her name, otherwise she said there is a risk she spend all money.
So I did, on AIr Asia web site, from Ubud where I was, I bought the ticket with her name and email with all her details she gave me by msg. She came at Denpasar the day ater and stayed 2 days with me.
But she was Indo and travel from outside to her country so no great difficulties for customs and any other regulations at airport.
Now I have similar case, going to Phil and chatting with a Phil girl working in Qatar. We agreed to meet in Iloilo, as she will be for two months in Phil between two contracts. I paid a ticket in her name, and expect to meet her in Iloilo early January.
But I ask also to another Phil girl from Makati if she could meet me in Cambodia, and she said she had passport so no issue to fly to Cambodia alone and meet me there. But we didn't organize that up to now. May be later.
Wicked Roger
12-21-18, 01:12
I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts
Any other advice or suggestions welcome.Check you PMs KG. As you said lots of advice and really depends if the girl has been outside the country before or is a first timer. Now if she was rich / celebrity / politician or some one high who may have or have not committed a crime then they would be allowed out no issues. Just the cuties can be stopped (and I know a few plus OI know airline ground crew who man that area at the airport). I have taken 2 out at the same time before and none I have taken out has ever been stopped but good friends have had issues so a mixed bag.
Also read this as I for one was surprised by the number in the article (some of which I can see why they were stopped).
http://philippineslifestyle.com/thousands-filipinos-barred-travel/
I am currently working on an assignment out of the country where the girls here have no appeal to me and mongering opportunities are shall we say limited.
I have been chatting with a few girls about having them come over but am concerned about the Immigration checks at the airport to get them out of the country. I have read back on some posts on international travel and like everything here it appears to be a mixed bag of outcomes.
I've taken 4 trips leaving the Philippines with a Filipina over the last 7 years. The last 3 with the same girl. The last trip was in 2017. Every time the girl and I have been questioned. Although I easily cleared immigration, when questioning the girl they called me over. Twice (once with each girl) we were taken to a side room and had to sign a document saying that we would return etc. The girls were 23 to 27 at the times of the trips. Both girls had current university student IDs with them. I would recommend that you accompany her particularly if she has a virgin passport.
There was a third girl who lives in Angeles, and I was discussing a possible trip with her. She was emphatic to me that we fly from Manila and not Angeles as she said they very often prohibit girls from leaving in Angeles.
I always gave them several hundred dollars in flash money, but neither girl was ever asked to show it. Both girls always had copies of all flight and hotel reservations. I would doctor the electronic hotel reservation to add the girls name if it didn't show both. Once or twice, they were asked to see the hotels and return flight reservations.
They always asked how long we knew each other and how many times we met. Every time but once they asked if we had photographs together. I had taken multiple trips with both girls in the Philippines. Once they specifically asked my GF where we had been together, and on the list was Baguio. The immigration officer wanted to see pictures in Baguio. My GF was scanning her tablet for Baguio pictures when the officer saw a picture of myself, her parents, and her in front of her home. The officer asked if those were her parents, and when she said yes. The officer stamped her passport and approved her.
I always gave them several hundred dollars in flash money, but neither girl was ever asked to show it. Both girls always had copies of all flight and hotel reservations. I would doctor the electronic hotel reservation to add the girls name if it didn't show both. Once or twice, they were asked to see the hotels and return flight reservations.
They always asked how long we knew each other and how many times we met. Every time but once they asked if we had photographs together. I had taken multiple trips with both girls in the Philippines. Once they specifically asked my GF where we had been together, and on the list was Baguio. The immigration officer wanted to see pictures in Baguio. My GF was scanning her tablet for Baguio pictures when the officer saw a picture of myself, her parents, and her in front of her home. The officer asked if those were her parents, and when she said yes. The officer stamped her passport and approved her.Its very useful info for me being a newbie in this issue. Thanks for that.
I never taken any girl with me since been requested many times. But this time I got a fall on a 23 yr old uni girl very much keen to visit Thailand since her friends did but she did not. So I m on that. Thinking seriously now being with her family and place that seems like committing for something I don't want. The scenario you have given in this post made me thinking twice.
Happy Hunting.
PedroMorales
12-21-18, 08:31
Can be a problem, even in SE Asia where visa issues are not as strict. Assuming you are talking about a "girl" who is a prostitute, the love of your life is problematic to many people, amongst whom are airline staff, immigration folk and hotel staff. The Thai prostitutes who travel regularly to Singapore oin "business" know the ropes, to take lots of flash cash for shopping and so on. I know of instances where hotel security have raided hotels in Singapore when the man was white and the woman was SE Asia.
You did not say what the destination was. In anything like that, securing the visa is over half the work and doctoring receipts won't work with many Western countries.
Engine Driver
12-22-18, 02:43
Can be a problem, even in SE Asia where visa issues are not as strict. Assuming you are talking about a "girl" who is a prostitute, the love of your life is problematic to many people, amongst whom are airline staff, immigration folk and hotel staff. The Thai prostitutes who travel regularly to Singapore oin "business" know the ropes, to take lots of flash cash for shopping and so on. I know of instances where hotel security have raided hotels in Singapore when the man was white and the woman was SE Asia.
You did not say what the destination was. In anything like that, securing the visa is over half the work and doctoring receipts won't work with many Western countries.Taking a Pinay overseas for a holiday seems like a major headache. Photos with the in-laws, flash cash, medical insurance, newly minted passport, border control interrogations etc seems like a major hassle.
What's wrong with taking your instant girlfriend to Palawan? Seems like a nice place for a holiday. Oh yeah, she still needs valid ID to get on a plane and most don't have one.
Taking a Pinay overseas for a holiday seems like a major headache. Photos with the in-laws, flash cash, medical insurance, newly minted passport, border control interrogations etc seems like a major hassle.
What's wrong with taking your instant girlfriend to Palawan? Seems like a nice place for a holiday. Oh yeah, she still needs valid ID to get on a plane and most don't have one.Many forms of ID are accepted in Philippines for domestic airplane travel. I have seen school IDs, bar IDs, work IDs, postal IDs and barangay IDs used for airplane travel. I have seen Barangay IDs issued in one afternoon. Take your instant GF for a beach holiday!
Engine Driver
12-22-18, 05:08
I have seen school IDsThanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.
Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.
DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.
Thanks DG. A mate of mine at home once went to a fancy dress party with his chick dressed in a school uniform. Only thing was that was actually her school uniform. She was 17.
Now back to the Phils, I've asked this chick in Makati to go to her Barangay Office and get photo ID. She keeps asking me why? This is the one I sent money to for Christmas and she got her cousin to collect. Some chicks are just allergic to paperwork.
DG, has any chick used her hygiene card with the doctors stamps to get on a plane? LOL. One chick I was was with left her bar ID at the bar and only had her hygiene card, so the security guard accepted that and kept it at reception while she was banging me.Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.
I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.
Wicked Roger
12-22-18, 09:39
Let me clarify this a bit. I stated these were acceptable IDs for airplane travel. Most of these IDs may not be acceptable to get money at WU or other money transfer places. I have been told that some money places have a higher ID standard for foreign incoming money transfers than domestic transfers.
I have had hotels accept the girl's 2 year expired high school picture ID.Within the Philippines any ID is OK as you say DG. Took girls from Cebu to Manila etc using school ID, postal and one time a fake drivers ID. As long as the name and photo look OK then no one asks.
But overseas clearly a passport but then could be a nightmare so it pays to plan and be prepared.
Engine Driver
12-29-18, 08:09
I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?
These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.
And she is one of the girls that wants to own a sari sari store FFS! I love the Philippines.
Chocha Monger
12-29-18, 13:28
I've now met about 6 bar girls / waitresses / massage girls who want to go home to the provinces or the regional towns that they came from and open a sari sari store. One of them failed in this venture previously, but wants to have another attempt at it. What's changed? Has she now got a degree in economics or commerce? A couple of them knew that relatives and friends will buy shit from the store on credit and never, ever pay back, thus sending the store broke. So what's the big fascination with sari sari stores? How much money can you make from selling coffee and shampoo sachets?
These girls can't budget one day in advance and they think that somehow they can run a business?
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work..Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.
Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.
It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.
Just like everywhere else people think a business makes a ton of money. That every business owner is rich. I have known a few people who have started a store. They have great sales in the beginning. Downfall is extending credit and not setting aside money to restock. Other reason is family. Family think they are rich and hit them up for "loans". Family loans are never paid back.
Most sari sari stores make 200-300 pesos gross profit a day. Usually run by a family member who is home all day watching kids and washing clothes. Enough to put food on the table.
I remember a girl who sent her family some money to start a food cart. With in a week they were out of business. I asked why? They had sales of 400 a day and costs of 200, leaving a profit of 200. She said they spent the 400 sales one day leaving no money to restock the supplies for the next day! Sadly they would hound her everyday to send money for food.
I sent some Christmas money gift to one of my favorites and told her to tell me exactly how your name appears on your I the, Okay done and sent. I got a chat back oops she could not receive gift; please remove middle name and just put initial. OK, I did that. And that worked as I got a nice reply and thanks along with promises I hope happen. It seems even the simplest questions get wrong answer from these girls. Just go with the flow, it is worth it. BTW, W Union is apparently very picky.
A side note which you might find amusing. I gave a sweet young thing who've I've been in contact with a chunk of money for Christmas. She never asked, but I just gave it to her as I wanted to do something nice. It wasn't a lot by western standards, but a fairly sizeable amount by Pinay massage girl standards. In fact, it's probably more money than she's ever had. So what did she do with the money? She bought a new Samsung Galaxy phone, which is okay because she needs it for work. She really wanted to get an iPhone 8's, but I convinced her that a Samsung was cheaper and did the same thing. What did she do with the rest? Well, she spent the remainder on useless Christmas presents for her family. I told her to keep some for emergencies, like the electricity bill or next months' rent, but obviously budgeting for the next month was a totally foreign concept for her. LOL. She is now so broke that she can't afford a bus fare back to Caloocan from Makati for NYE. Unfortunately, my safe is closed and I can't remember the combination number. LOL.
.At the moment I am sponsoring my 19 year old cutie through a program which is needed for experience to get a job. Sent her some money for x mas. Part of it for x mas with her fellow students. Gave her some more money for a passport. She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.
Sent some more money for her dress for x mas with some extra money. Sent some more money for her birthday with family. I told her to save some money from all the money I sent for a rainy day.
Other day she tells me she needs some more money for exams. I knew very well what I paid for her educations covers everything in full. I told her I will not send anymore money till she learns to control her spending. Also asked her about why she is asking for money all the time and how she managed before I got into the picture. I told her if she needs money she should find a job. These lazy girls do not make any effort to work hard. I told her clearly there will not be any money coming till I see her next time.
Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.
Engine Driver
12-29-18, 23:00
Sometimes you need to put your foot down. So what if she finds somebody. There are always plenty of girls looking for money.Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.
I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.
Most poor women from developing countries have little knowledge about money management as they've never had any money to start with. Most of the financial decisions are made by men. We can't expect them to change their behaviour after generations of financial illiteracy.
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.
I've already moved on from mine. LOL. As you say, there are plenty of girls looking for money.There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.
I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.
However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.
Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.
There is also a distinction between being able to manage small and large sums of money.
I've actually found many of the girls are good at micro managing small amounts when things are tight. Preparing cheap meals, bargaining for goods and the like.
However, they have no experience with, and are atrocious at, managing relatively large sums. As you found, annual tuition, Celebration funding or house payments are often rediverted and frittered away. This is especially true if there is a magic pot that mysteriously keeps replacing these lost funds.
Strangely, I also know guys who are the opposite: successfully manage their large investment pools but $100 burns a hole in their pocket.Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.
Most Pinays can’t hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found “cousin’s” request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasn’t working anymore and had no money.
Wicked Roger
12-30-18, 05:35
Poor money management can be said about some pooreingners. Some have left the home land with a mountain of debt and creditors chasing them. The only thing going for them is the unattachable monthly pension check. Which they will pxss away before months end.
Most Pinays cant hold on to the bankable funds due to tremendous pressure from family, cousins and friends for money. The pressure is so great that I knew a girl who quit her job because of the new found relatives money requests. I saw her cell phone with all the new found cousins request for money. She told me even though she was hungry that it was much less stressful to say she wasnt working anymore and had no money.More than one pinay I have known and know who are OFW face the same issues.
I advise them to have an account in the Philippines one that no one know abut and put a third of their salary there for a rainy day etc. Rest is split between any lay family request and herself on the country (generally UAE and the cost of living is high there). But. The family get to know, they are 'rich' so family want a sari sari store (with the obvious results as posted earlier), want the latest Nike etc. Then lola is sick etc. Happens all so often that the only way is cut them off, block them from all chat apps etc. One has done this and her life is better she says from the daily requests and people being sick etc.
Another followed the advice had her secret stash but her sis found out when the pinay had a slip of the tongue. She gave her trusting sister the PIN so she could start the house for herself when she returned only to find the family had spent it all on stupid things so she had no savings, no house, no job and was screwed. All by her family!
And they never learn. You can share these experiences with them but they won't believe you, won't listen then ask you for help when the sh*t hits the fam and hey have been undone by their loving family LOL.
I'm pretty much of a night owl when on the prowl, which means that I can sometimes find myself out during the wee hours of the morning. Can anybody recommend any good restaurants in Makati, Cebu, or Angeles City that are open 24/7 with a good assortment of dishes on the menu? I just may find myself wanting something to eat at say 3 or 4 in the morning if I am still out and about all by my lonesome self. So if you know of any places that are both reliable and good, please do tell. And thanks in advance for any info!
Just give what you want with no expectation in return and enjoy the momentary pleasure that brings.I sent my honey a pretty good sized Christmas gift. She let me know she had recieved it and was sooooo thankful, I didn't even ask what she would do with the money. Better to not know and avoid the temptation of a judgemental reply by me. I am sure it was gone in less than one day.
More than one pinay I have known and know who are OFW face the same issues.
I advise them to have an account in the Philippines one that no one know abut and put a third of their salary there for a rainy day etc. Rest is split between any lay family request and herself on the country (generally UAE and the cost of living is high there). But. The family get to know, they are 'rich' so family want a sari sari store (with the obvious results as posted earlier), want the latest Nike etc. Then lola is sick etc. Happens all so often that the only way is cut them off, block them from all chat apps etc. One has done this and her life is better she says from the daily requests and people being sick etc.
Another followed the advice had her secret stash but her sis found out when the pinay had a slip of the tongue. She gave her trusting sister the PIN so she could start the house for herself when she returned only to find the family had spent it all on stupid things so she had no savings, no house, no job and was screwed. All by her family!
And they never learn. You can share these experiences with them but they won't believe you, won't listen then ask you for help when the sh*t hits the fam and hey have been undone by their loving family LOL.I have heard by defacto Philippine law, the family is entitled to half of the earnings. She was committing a major crime by hiding her earnings from the family!
Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.
Another problem is parents baby their children treating them like small kids even though they are 18-25 . Many do not even bother girl has to work hard to better herself. Although jobs are tough there are plenty of girls working in grocery stores, shop malls etc. Granted pay is low but will help help their resume with experience.
My previous girl was living in Lapu Lapu. She got a job in Ayala Mall. It takes roughly an hour and half to get there by Jeepney. Not counting hot, sweaty, sardine can comfort. She refused to go. Is it better to earn money or sitting at home with no money?
Supporting foreigners come and go with no guarantees. There is always a better girl to be had with your money. Once they reach a certain age it will hard to attract sponsors.
There was a very pretty girl in Angeles I knew. High flying and earning good money. Lost touch with her. After many years I met her at a Manila mall toting three kids. She smiled at me but I did not recognize her. She came and talked to me and reminded me who she was. Her and the kids wearing hand me down clothes and looking miserable. She said she was married but now alone. I gave her some money for old time sake. Obviously did not save any money and made wrong choices in life.
....She spent that money to get braces. Her teeth were perfect before. She mentioned about braces when I was with her. I told her she does not really need it and let it go.
....What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.
I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.
Bottom line is the girls think they are poor and will stay poor even if they save some of the donated money. Do not realize if they save little by little it adds up.
.....Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.
They will spend and give to family in the expectation that when they need it returned it will be, not always in the form of an explicit loan repayment but often in help, room and board etc, when they need it.
Culturally they believe that savings is done in the form of giving to family and getting back when they need it. Of course in every family there are some free loaders taking advantage of this and that will always keep the girls poor.
I had a long term GF from SA back home. She was from a very poor family. One day I gave her $2000 CDN to pay off her credit card, within two weeks her sister, just as poor, got a tax refund. Instead of paying off some debts sister bought tickets to Vancouver to see a concert. GF bought VIP backstage tickets on the newly paid off credit card.
Poor people with no experience handling money will always end up broke because they simply do not know how to budget and do not expect to have money in the future.
Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.
Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.And there are those with millions who died when a fifteen foot stack of hoarded newspapers fell on them. In the end all that's remember of them was the neighbor saying "I thought they were broke, they never spent any money".
What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.One of my girls is a dentist and she puts a lot of braces on pinays. I asked why they wanted them when in many cases they didn't need them and probably had more pressing expenses to cover, She told me the girls look at them as a status symbol leting others know they have or a least had some money. She does 1 to 3 sets everyday. She is making a good living doing this.
Engine Driver
12-31-18, 00:28
What is with the fucking braces? A sizable number of girls are now sporting these. They end up keeping them on for much longer than needed because they can not afford to have them tightened so they stay on mostly for decoration.
I have seen pictures of 50 somethings with tin grins.Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.
https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are-cool-in-asia-d974431c9e9e
Most of them are fake. This craze has been going in Thailand and Philippines for years. Braces equates to wealth and status. It's kind of like lower class Indonesian men growing their finger nail long on their pinky. It shows they are not field labourers.
https://medium.com/navigo/braces-are-cool-in-asia-d974431c9e9eI like the fake braces! Makes them look cute. I like cute and a little squeal when I am boring.
Love my second chance to bang young hotties. I am only as old as the hotties I am banging!
Sorry, but I've got to call BS on this one. While many stay with in poverty traps there are also self made millionaires who started from very humble backgrounds. For these, growing up in poverty can become a great incentive to better themselves and generate a point to prove.OK I will give yiu the less than one in a million odds of someone making it from abjet poverty to wealth as proof that some poor people can handle money.
However they are just about as rare as unicorns.
Engine Driver
12-31-18, 23:58
Do you still think charity is good? Now, that sweet young thing is marooned in Makati without bus fare back to Caloocan for New Year's Eve because her self-reliance died the day that she learned some mongers are willing to wire large chunks of free cash to her from their rich country. Instead of giving rub and tugs to make an honest living, she now sits at Western Union remittance agencies with her new Samsung Galaxy phone using the free Wi-Fi to message pleas for cash donations from charitable mongers.
Now, you experienced firsthand how mongers providing welfare turn the hardest working girls into lazy mendicants who no longer have the pride and work ethic that once drove them to work that pussy until it squirt, never dreaming of asking foreigners for handouts. Unfortunately, the expectation of free cash remittances from abroad will now lead to that sweet young thing stranding herself in places far worse than the bus terminal in Makati, as she waits for a Western Union hero to save her from poverty.
It will not be long before the new Samsung Galaxy ends up in the nearest five six pawned for bus fare to Caloocan or snatched.Chocha Monger, you are spot on. Good post.
I agree that free handouts destroy a Pinay's resilience and work ethic. So why do western men from rich countries keep falling into this trap? Paternal instincts cloud their sound judgement. They think they are doing something to help out the poor Pinay in distress and charity makes them feel better. Maybe we should stop interfering in the natural order of things.
I will explain the circumstances surrounding this poor massage girl, relate it back to what Choca Monger says and you can understand how everything goes wrong in a Pinay's life. This girl came back to Makati from Caloocan after Christmas to make a few extra pesos before heading back home for NYE. Caloocan is only about 1. 5 hours away from Makati so this was a feasible plan. On the 28 Dec she had one western massage client at her shop. After the flip, he points to his hard on and asks for sex. She refuses. He then offers her 3,500 PHP for one pop, right there on the table. Thats right, $70 USD for 10 minutes work. She still refuses, but goes into the lounge and brings back her co-worker, introduces her to the monger and leaves. The co-worker gladly accepts the mission.
On the 29 Dec, it pissses down all day and night in Makati and there is not a single walk-in monger. So she goes home empty handed. Not to worry, there is always tomorrow to get a few extra mongers and a few extra pesos to afford the bus fare home. However, the rain does not stop on the 30 Dec. It's still pisssing down. Her boss texts her at 8. 00 pm and tells her he is not coming in to open the shop and for her to take the night off. Panic doesn't quite set in yet as she knows that Mr Rich, Dumb Westerner will just send her a nice chunk of money to Western Union to rescue her. Only by this time, I've had enough of all this drama and pull the plug. So she then goes to her cousin's family and they won't lend her the 100 PHP saying they too are broke. She goes back to her apartment in a sheer state of panic now.
Now if I hadn't interfered in the natural order, would things have turned out differently? Would this Pinay have maintained her work ethic and not worried about pride? Probably yes. She would have taken the FS assignment and pocketed a nice 3,500 PHP which would have been enough for her to sponsor a massive NYE's party at her family's house. Why did she knock back the FS assignment? Because she assumed she had a rich foreigner BF who would always keeping sending money and that spreading her legs on the massage table was now beneath her.
For those who are wondering what a five-six is which CM refers to, that denotes the 20% weekly interest payable on micro loans. That is, if a Pinay borrows 50 pesos, she must pay back the money lender 60 peso the following week.
Arriving in Cebu today, Jan 3rd. Staying near Ayala for about a week.
PM if anyone wants to meet over beers or lies.
Cheers, G.
By any chance are you a prodigy of Anthony Bourdain. Rest his soul!Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??
Mr Enternational
01-03-19, 15:57
Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??Maybe because he entrusted his heart and tried to help out a woman who was eventually found out to be fooling around with another guy. Then he killed himself like the same day or day after when he found out. I guess that scenario plays out more often in Thailand than PI, or at least it is seen in the news more often in Thailand.
Would someone please explain to me the frequent AB jokes on the forums? I assume he used cooking shows as a convenient cover story??In the referenced post AB was about eating around the world. In other references it was that AB was a fellow monger around the world. In some of his episodes he would point out some pnp locations.
I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.
Needless to say, I shit myself and tried to get them to be quiet and disappear. Obviously this is impossible while in the middle of a video call. At some point I've had my arms flapping around, getting them to shut up and generally get out of the room (which the girls instinctively did) and accidentally rotated the camera to the front screen. This gave Mrs G a full view of my panicked face, the girls walking through the door unhindered, my arms flapping around and then them making a hasty retreat. These girls clearly were not old haggards, there to clean the room.
To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. The one thing that I didn't realise was that the AirBnB that I was staying at has residential (not commercial hotel) door latch sets. This means that they must be manually locked everytime rather than automatically locking whenever the door closes (as hotel doors do).
Moral of the story: always check your door and know whether it locks automatically or manually.
Be careful out there.
Cheers, G.
PedroMorales
01-04-19, 15:37
, G.Not sure how you can lock the door now that the horse has bolted. A lot obviously depends on your relationship with Mrs G and the reason for your travels. On what you've given, I'd take the high moral ground and leave where you are staying. (even book a shtt hole nearby and commute between them). Tell Mrs G to stick AirBNB, never again etc, tramps and their boyfriends wandering in and out, used your towel to dry their feet (put a stinky deflection in), they took your prize food etc. Don't bring up the subject but let her do it.
Not sure if she will swallow all that but it will cloud the picture. Housewives have their own intelligence dept and she will be reporting back on you. A bad move is giving these women the run of the joint but we learn by our mistakes.
Naked Gunz
01-04-19, 16:08
My biggest fuck up was not keeping the front door locked. Be careful out there.Cheers, G.WOW! Double WOW! Nothing but bad shit can come from all that my friend! Get a good lawyer. Even if she forgives, she won't forget, or ever let you forget it either! Good luck.
Engine Driver
01-04-19, 20:25
To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
.Holy fucking Jesus! That is a mongers' worst nightmare. I'm wishing you all the best G Man. If we don't get any more FRs from you in a few months time, we will know it didn't end well.
I'm the same. I don't know when my mongering life is going to end by being sprung and people back here at home discover the double life I've been leading for 30 years. I reckon it's only a matter of time.
The only way you can get out of this is to say that people keep walking in and out AirBnBs as the whole floor is rented out and all entrance doors look the same. Those two totally hot chicas must have walked in by accident, which is quite possible.
Mr Enternational
01-04-19, 21:08
I was vid-calling Mrs G at a time when I was alone and the room was free of incriminating evidence. All was going well. I was sitting on the bed chatting away. Then suddenly the girly I had invited up later came thru the door, much earlier than expected, talking in a full voice on speaker phone. Next to her was her girlfriend doing the same thing. The ruckus would have been clearly audible by my phone's mic.Depending on what was said, what is the big deal? You had your door open letting some air flow through and some drunk chicks were out in the hall making all kind of noise and wandered into your place.
Depending on what was said, what is the big deal? You had your door open letting some air flow through and some drunk chicks were out in the hall making all kind of noise and wandered into your place.The most damning thing was not the girls walking into my room but my freaked out reaction too it. We all like to think we would act calmly under pressure but it was something I was totally unprepared for and just wanted them out ASAP. Accidentally flipping that fucking camera certainly didn't help.
Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. Mrs G seems to have calmed down, even saying I should go to security and complain about girls being able to walk into my room but I have no doubt this will not be forgotten.
I doubt they will, but if things do go heavily sideways I'm already lawyered up. We went through a mild rough patch years ago (for unrelated reasons) and I sought legal advice then from the best guys in town. Where I'm from, conflict of interest rules mean that they can now only ever act for me and cannot ever advise or act for Mrs G. Something to remember for any guys that may be nervous about anything: be the first one onto the best lawyers' office. Not the second.
Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated. If I'm going down it's not going to be for girls just walking into my room. The offending girl is in the bed beside me now and found the best ways to apologize for causing the fiasco. 😁 I'll be a lot more careful moving forward but life goes on.
Cheers, G.
Mr Enternational
01-04-19, 23:06
Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. You are doing the right thing. Like Richard Pryor said, "Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes?
PedroMorales
01-04-19, 23:17
The most damning thing was not the girls walking into my room but my freaked out reaction too it. We all like to think we would act calmly under pressure but it was something I was totally unprepared for and just wanted them out ASAP. Accidentally flipping that fucking camera certainly didn't help.
Rather than make elaborate excuses, I kept to my story that there were no girls in the room and I don't know what she saw because I can't see her phone screen. I'm not going to vary from that story. Mrs G seems to have calmed down, even saying I should go to security and complain about girls being able to walk into my room but I have no doubt this will not be forgotten.
I doubt they will, but if things do go heavily sideways I'm already lawyered up. Cheers, G.So, did she imagine you freaked out too, in addition to seeing the two female mirages? Her circle of friends will join dots there. You also seem to be very aggressive lawyer-wise. The law should be the last resort but Deus Vult.
Jack Burton
01-05-19, 05:22
You are doing the right thing. Like Richard Pryor said, "Are you going to believe me, or your lying eyes?"Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny" - from 'How to cheat on your wife'.
"Deny, deny, deny, deny, deny" - from 'How to cheat on your wife'.I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.
You also seem to be very aggressive lawyer-wise. The law should be the last resort but Deus Vult.The lawyers were / are not engaged in an offensive capacity. I don't like surprises so they were used in a "what if" advisor capacity for contingency planning. The good thing is that should the worst happen (which I don't expect), being proactive many years ago means that the best lawyers in town are locked up for my benefit for life. That's reassuring.
Wicked Roger
01-05-19, 08:40
I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.Thought that was Donald Trump LOL.
Engine Driver
01-05-19, 10:29
After G Man's brush with death, I went on Amazon to see if there were professional guides on how to get away with cheating. I found one interesting book and here's just the intro. The book looks like it could have been written by Mr. E. LOL.
"Cheating is wrong. This book is not an open pass for infidelity or fornication. It is truly a real life guide. Men are leaving the wife / girlfriend at home and going out in public with the woman on the side. Men are forgetting that women on the side are expendable pieces of recreation that should be used for temporary physical, mental or financial gain. The key word to that last sentence is temporary! Women on the side hold the same complicated value as a complicated video game. It s fun to play and it may involve some time but when it is all said and done, you can always turn the damn thing off and get back to real life. This book will teach you how to maintain your home life and how to play the streets. Women know we cheat! This is not some new profound thing. It s how you do it! There are rules to this game. After reading this book you will be a better cheater, well informed or a committed man! Please remember this one fact, I didn' t create the game. I'm just narrating it!"
I prefer Goebells' "tell the same lie until it's the truth" approach.It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.
Engine Driver
01-06-19, 09:32
It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.Well done G. I think we all want to know how you managed to escape Christmas and New Year in your home town and were allowed to go to mongering heaven instead.
Naked Gunz
01-06-19, 18:10
Rumours of my death are greatly exaggerated. If I'm going down it's not going to be for girls just walking into my room. The offending girl is in the bed beside me now and found the best ways to apologize for causing the fiasco. 😁 I'll be a lot more careful moving forward but life goes on.Cheers, G.You never really know if it worked until your back face-to-face with her reading it if your lying. Fuck marriage and the institution. The Art of War: The best way to win a war is to not get in one in the first place!
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To say Mrs G was unimpressed and demanding an explanation is an understatement. Obviously, there is no explanation for two hot chicks to be walking straight through the door into her husband's room at 8 pm. All I could do was play stupid and repeatedly say that there is no one in the room and I don't know what she saw or is talking about. There is no way I'm going to get away with this totally unscathed and the return home is going to be eventful.
....My friend you are truly and totally fucked.
And not in a good way.
My friend you are truly and totally fucked.
And not in a good way.
Dear Goferring,
Sorry to hear of your troubles. You fucked up spectacularly. Although the wife appears to be buying your bullshit, she really is not. She is just biding her time until the opportunity for revenge presents itself.
When you least expect it, she will feed your prick to the geese. I strongly suggest you wear tight underwear to bed and heavy denim pants with the fly sewn shut unless you wish to look out the window only to see the geese tearing apart your dismembered prick with their beaks as if it were a fat pink worm.
Good luck sleeping with one eye open for the remainder of your marriage. You sir are a braver man than most. LOL! I hope the Pinay strumpets were worth the trouble that is coming your way friend. LOL!
Best regards,
CMThanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.
WestCoast1
01-07-19, 17:13
Thanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.That might be a direct quote from Michael Douglass in "The War of the Roses". Hahaha.
Albert9989
01-07-19, 22:17
Hi, would you like to give me your quick advice for sim card with 3 G /4 G access and data for 3 weeks to buy in the Manila airport? Best brands, if any, and price recommended, to be used in Pinay and Manila, and where in airport if special places?
Same for taxis to go to Makati, I read that Yellow ones are ok, and there should be also Grab or Uber? Cost less than 300 Ph for Makati?
Hi, would you like to give me your quick advice for sim card with 3 G /4 G access and data for 3 weeks to buy in the Manila airport? Best brands, if any, and price recommended, to be used in Pinay and Manila, and where in airport if special places?
Same for taxis to go to Makati, I read that Yellow ones are ok, and there should be also Grab or Uber? Cost less than 300 Ph for Makati?Two options Globe or Smart.
You can get a free SIM for either as soon as you leave the airport. Otherwise 40 to 50 p. Both work about the same anywhere in Manila or built up places.
Globe is 500 p for 5 gb data, valid for 30 days or 1000 for unlimited data valid for 30 days.
Unlimited plan gas "we were just kidding about unlimited" AKA "fair use" policy that kicks in, sometimes after 400 mb a day and throttles you to 2 G speeds. Not sure about Smart right now but they will be close in both costs and terms.
Lots of taxi scams reported but I have never found one, take whatever is quickest available. No Uber here any more, all Grab. Generally Grab is slightly more expensive that taxi so use taxi if one handy otherwise order Grab. Grab is better off the beaten track where taxi do not usually drop off passengers but taxi is good from a major hotel where there are lots of arriving cabs.
Thanks for your support.
It's all under control. I'm waaaay too smart for anything to go wrong now. 😁 😉.Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn?
Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers.
Check out the real estate section from home, how much is she asking for the house?
Check your joint credit cards, are they maxed out yet?
If we can be anymore help, just ask LOL.
Naked Gunz
01-07-19, 23:41
Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn? Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers..I have to agree, I think your in for some shit when you get home, your in denial G. Obviously only you know your woman better than anybody here, but I would not discount the person that's in legal possession of half my shyte!
Direct quote from General Custer as he rode towards Little Big Horn?
Mrs G is playing it smart, making you think that she is thinking about the lawn mower while she is rearranging your bank accounts into her bank accounts, throwing out your little league ball glove and selling your baseball card collection, talking to locksmiths and lawyers.
Check out the real estate section from home, how much is she asking for the house?
Check your joint credit cards, are they maxed out yet?
If we can be anymore help, just ask LOL.I don't understand. Are you saying that having her as a Company Co-Director is a bad thing? Our accountant, her sister, said moving all our assets into her name was much more tax effective.
That's good, right? 👍.
Albert9989
01-07-19, 23:46
Two options Globe or Smart.
You can get a free SIM for either as soon as you leave the airport. Otherwise 40 to 50 p. Both work about the same anywhere in Manila or built up places.
Globe is 500 p for 5 gb data, valid for 30 days or 1000 for unlimited data valid for 30 days.
Unlimited plan gas "we were just kidding about unlimited" AKA "fair use" policy that kicks in, sometimes after 400 mb a day and throttles you to 2 G speeds. Not sure about Smart right now but they will be close in both costs and terms.
Lots of taxi scams reported but I have never found one, take whatever is quickest available. No Uber here any more, all Grab. Generally Grab is slightly more expensive that taxi so use taxi if one handy otherwise order Grab. Grab is better off the beaten track where taxi do not usually drop off passengers but taxi is good from a major hotel where there are lots of arriving cabs.Thanks a lot for this quick and useful answer!
But not sure if your answer to Mr G is at same useful level! . .
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I don't understand. Are you saying that having her as a Company Co-Director is a bad thing? Our accountant, her sister, said moving all our assets into her name was much more tax effective.
That's good, right? 👍.Yes, now she can keep everything and leave you with the tax bill.
Engine Driver
01-12-19, 07:55
Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.
Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.Yes, BBFS is the default position but I'm not so sure about CIP. I always ask beforehand if they are willing to go BB and the majority agrees to that provided that I don't CIP.
And if they agree without saying anything about CIP, then I ask them during our session. If I want to CIP anyway, because for me that's not so important.
I have also understood that quite a lot of bar girls are on birth control pills these days. However since about 3 years I'm only chasing freelancers and so far only one told me she was taking the pill. Could be there are more but I never ask them to be honest.
Yes, BBFS is the default position but I'm not so sure about CIP. I always ask beforehand if they are willing to go BB and the majority agrees to that provided that I don't CIP.
And if they agree without saying anything about CIP, then I ask them during our session. If I want to CIP anyway, because for me that's not so important.
I have also understood that quite a lot of bar girls are on birth control pills these days. However since about 3 years I'm only chasing freelancers and so far only one told me she was taking the pill. Could be there are more but I never ask them to be honest.From a logical standpoint, BB makes no sense at all. Its risky for the guy from a STI standpoint. For the girl, withdrawal is the least effective form of contraception and many guys are going to "accidently" stay a little long.
Of course, logic rarely comes into play when little head is taking all the blood flow.
I'd agree that its extremely rare to fund a freelancer / partimer / internet girl on the pill. None seem to give any / a credible reason why. It's something that has always dumbfounded me.
I do know several that resort to self medication of a morning after type pill if the guy did CIP and one who resorted to a grey market abortion pill. She paid the price for that with 3 months of heavy bleeding. She was too embarrassed to go to a hospital.
I'm not making a moral judgement on anyone, male or female but it seems lack of education for the girls costs them dearly in many ways.
I'd agree that its extremely rare to fund a freelancer / partimer / internet girl on the pill. None seem to give any / a credible reason why. It's something that has always dumbfounded me.
I think the reasons are (in a random order):
1. It costs money. And we all know how short on cash they usually are.
2. The catholic church preaches abstinence, unless people are married (to each other!). So the pill or any other form of contraception, like condoms, should not be needed.
3. Contraception is for prostitutes and other sluts.
3. Contraception is for prostitutes and other sluts.Valid point.
I had one girl tell me she didn't use the pill because she didn't have a boy friend in country so it wasnt needed. She then went on to say that she met "two or three" guys a month from Cupid etc.
I guess a girl in a steady relationship with one guy needs the pill. One banging random guys every week, doesn't. 🙄.
First time in Philippines. Looking for hotel / apartments close to seaport in Cebu. (Uncertain exactly where). Anyone have a driver / car to suggest? Only 7 nights. It would appear I will have no difficulties finding girls. PM or answer here. Thanks.
Mr Enternational
01-13-19, 07:59
I think the reasons are (in a random order):
1. It costs money. And we all know how short on cash they usually are.Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.
Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.I guess they say it's God's will when they get pregnant. Not because they didn't take the pill.
Chocha Monger
01-13-19, 12:44
Funny how they never calculate the cost of a kid. In Thailand a chick of mine was taking her pills when she came to my room last month. The price was 2 fucking dollars for a month's worth of pills. Now tell me where you can raise a baby on $2 per month.More often than not, the kid is dumped off with the grandparents and extended family members in the province where it will live on less than a dollar per day. They will feed it rice porridge and foraged proteins obtained from insects, frogs, rodents, and eggs. The marginal cost of adding a member to the family is very low.
Many mongers bang Pinay hookers bareback, with CIP being the holy grail of mongering. In AC, it seems to be the default position. In addition to the real STI risks, aren't mongers worried about creating more half-caste bastards? Does anyone ask the hooker when her period is due before leaving a big cum load deep in her pussy? Thought not.Mongers have made plenty of babies in Philippines. I have personally seen many kids with AC girls who do not look Philippine. These girls love to have kids. Whiter the better. If you think, the psychology of these girls are different. They had nothing till they started with sex work. Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term. They think they can support the kids without problems. If the sex work goes out of the window she will be struggling. Their own families will not support long term. But there is light at the end of the tunnel. For all their reputation of making girls pregnant and running away from the responsibilities Philippine men when they are older want a stable life. They are willing to marry ex bargirls and will support the kids with whatever meager income they have.
The girls really hate condoms. It is like long time ago in America before the scare of AIDS. Nobody used condoms. Some took birth control pills. Those who could not tolerate just got abortion without batting an eyelid. Religious ones had their baby and gave up for adoption. In some cases family took care of the kid. But then the social programs in USA supports the kid very well if they are eligible.
Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term.They are also not considering that having a kid may severely limit their income potential. I've seen many girls go from most popular in the bar to struggling to make ends meet due to savage effects pregnancy had on them.
Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long termWhat have they seen all of their lives growing up? Money being sent home to parents from the kids to support the family, their family and all of the families around them. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure out money comes from the kids on up. They have a kid and the kid is sent home to live with mom and dad while the girl keeps on earning, she's only lost a few months income. Once the baby comes she'll be back out earning for the family. Maybe she knows the more babies she has the more income she'll receive later in life when she can no longer sell her body?
Mr Enternational
01-13-19, 23:13
So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.
So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.What did he do? Either he was stupid enough to set up his affairs so he was worth more dead than alive or he seriously pissed her off to warrant (in pina eyes) the retribution.
Both not the brightest things to do.
Once they start making good money they want kids. They are not thinking long term. Actually they are thinking long term because kids are their pension plan. Kids have to take care of them when they are too old or sick to work.
Diver Forx
01-14-19, 02:51
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.
Mr Enternational
01-14-19, 03:01
What did he do? Either he was stupid enough to set up his affairs so he was worth more dead than alive or he seriously pissed her off to warrant (in pina eyes) the retribution.
Both not the brightest things to do.Nooo idea brother. Another buddy of mine said she probably just got tired of being told what to do.
Mr Enternational
01-14-19, 03:11
Actually they are thinking long term because kids are their pension plan. Kids have to take care of them when they are too old or sick to work.Exactly. The difference in our cultures. We teach our kids to get educated and be able to take care of themselves. They teach their kids to grow up and take care of them. IMHO it is pretty much a dead end culture.
So funny I was watching a video yesterday and Floyd Mayweather showed his multimillion dollar collection of 41 watches. Even had 1 watch that cost $25 million alone. Then a guy was interviewing Manny Pacquiao and asked him if he had something flashy like that. He said no. All his money went to taking care of other people.
So even someone like Manny who has made millions is still being held back after all his hard work. If you think your Pinay is ever going to stop needing your remittances then you better think again.
Exactly. The difference in our cultures. We teach our kids to get educated and be able to take care of themselves. They teach their kids to grow up and take care of them. IMHO it is pretty much a dead end culture.Another big difference is that in the west kids are a huge financial and time burden. In rural Asia, a 4 year old kid can help in the rice field or at sari sari and there is always an extended family to ease the workload of raising the kid.
Wicked Roger
01-14-19, 04:16
So funny I was watching a video yesterday and Floyd Mayweather showed his multimillion dollar collection of 41 watches. Even had 1 watch that cost $25 million alone. Then a guy was interviewing Manny Pacquiao and asked him if he had something flashy like that. He said no. All his money went to taking care of other people.
So even someone like Manny who has made millions is still being held back after all his hard work. If you think your Pinay is ever going to stop needing your remittances then you better think again.Think Manny's wife has all the flashy things and I thought he had a Ferrari in the USA but maybe wrong. He does help others but he also keeps some for himself and his wife's expensive tastes.
Wicked Roger
01-14-19, 04:20
From the Phllstar.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.
Maybe it has been around for a while already but it seems you can fly now between Clark, Manila and Puerto Galera by seaplane.
http://www.clark-airport.com > look for the ad 'air taxi service'.
http://www.clark-airport.com/air-taxi-request.htm
Maybe it has been around for a while already but it seems you can fly now between Clark, Manila and Puerto Galera by seaplane.
http://www.clark-airport.com > look for the ad 'air taxi service'.
http://www.clark-airport.com/air-taxi-request.htmJuan Air have operated the flights for years.
The PG arrival is actually in a little bay about a 5 minute trike ride away from Sabang.
The Sabang to Clark / Subic may be via Manila depending on the day.
A great service and prices compare well with a charter van / bangka a if you are travelling solo. Obviously it's much faster.
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.There is only one solution and his name is Wicked Roger. 😎.
Pay $20 for a subscription and PM him.
LostWithinDays
01-14-19, 22:47
Morning boss,
If your in Cebu for a few days why don't you join Filipino cupid or pina love (that's a free site).
I,m sure you will find some action with the girls there, arrange a few meet ups over the weekend and if you get some some no shows hit the bars, is it mango avenue?? From memory.
Cebu isn't a big city compared to Manila so the traffic won't be so busy,.
Cheers and best of luck,.
Lwd.
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.
Chocha Monger
01-15-19, 02:45
So a couple of years ago a buddy of mine made some rant videos. He lived in the Dominican Republic for like 7 years then moved to Angeles. The videos were about never seriously date a Dominican. Only fuck them because they are all hookers. The next week he turns around and marries a chick that was working at a bar opposite Kokomos. This left everyone confused after seeing the videos. Well the shit finally fell apart. In a facebook group he posted pictures of how she had gone upside his head with an ugly stick.At least he is sharing his story so the next monger knows to run and not walk away when a bar girl mentions love and / or marriage. LOL! Sadly, it took a piece of coco lumber up the side of the head for him to achieve enlightenment.
Trying to tame a wild alley cat and turn it into a domesticated house cat is always a very bad idea. Feral pussy is just not going to put up with attempts to put her on lock down, especially when she goes into heat and other toms come calling. LOL!
From the Phllstar.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.Diving for cebuana muff shouldn't be that hard. You got 3 days to find it.
Engine Driver
01-15-19, 08:54
I'm a boring 40 yr. Old guy, with a boring job, heading to Cebu for 3-days (part of a work trip after). I'm looking for something I will remember forever (hot, freaky and frequent). I know. Already have my expectations to high. Especially after reading so many threads on Cebu being not the best place for quick mongering. I've been on the online sites (E. G. Filipina-cupid), but seems like a ton of work and geared toward longer stays. So, here's the challenge: arrive Friday and leave Monday, staying at Radisson. What would you do? Do I just focus on the bars (and eat the barfines? Do I buy good shoes for walking and pray for hot, unicorn freelancers? I just joined to seek advice from the experts, but happy to share my experience when done (success or fail). Thanks for any guidance on my miracle journey.Mate, do you have a smart phone? Do you have WiFi? If yes to both, from connection to panties down will be 30 minutes. Time it if you don't believe me.
Naked Gunz
01-15-19, 13:51
I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.I'm a mariner! Love this post, LOL!
I'm a mariner! Love this post, LOL!Perhaps he was gathering the other 9 for his crew??
A good leader takes care of his troops. (or sailors in this case).
I believe the real crime was that he took 9 girls off the market from his crew. Terrible leadership.I can understand the disciplinary action.
He brought disrepute upon the US Military Services. Sleazy degenerate.
It's not as if every major mongering destination in the world was created to serve the needs of furloughed servicemen. 😉.
Perhaps he was gathering the other 9 for his crew??
A good leader takes care of his troops. (or sailors in this case).If he had done that then the 9 plus others would have covered his ass!
Diver Forx
01-16-19, 00:20
Mate, do you have a smart phone? Do you have WiFi? If yes to both, from connection to panties down will be 30 minutes. Time it if you don't believe me.Is there a preferred app for this (tinder?) Or am I doing pre-work on FL or PL? I've read other threads and the pre-work seems a little much. Hoping to avoid, but will do what's necessary.
Or am I doing pre-work on FL or PL? I've read other threads and the pre-work seems a little much.Option 1: About a month out, bulk message all suitable candidates and reply to all messages you receive. You'll get between 100 and 200 replies. Send follow up Viber and WhatsApps every couple of days so that you remain fresh in their minds. Easiest if you save all names and details to a spreadsheet to keep everything straight. Continue until you depart. Be sure to remember names and significant events in their lives so you can show you care. Arrive in country to find 90% are suddenly unavailable. The other 10% will want to bring their mom to the first meeting.
Option 2: Arrive. "Hi. I'm staying near Ayala. Would you like to meet?" She comes over. You fuck her.
Your choice. These are not exaggerations.
Diver Forx
01-16-19, 05:29
There is only one solution and his name is Wicked Roger. 😎.
Pay $20 for a subscription and PM him.Will take some time, but will do. Appreciate the advice (hopefully soon from Wicked Roger too).
Mr Enternational
01-16-19, 12:08
Option 1: About a month out, bulk message all suitable candidates and reply to all messages you receive. You'll get between 100 and 200 replies. Send follow up Viber and WhatsApps every couple of days so that you remain fresh in their minds. Easiest if you save all names and details to a spreadsheet to keep everything straight. Continue until you depart. Be sure to remember names and significant events in their lives so you can show you care. Arrive in country to find 90% are suddenly unavailable. The other 10% will want to bring their mom to the first meeting.That is a lot of shit to go through. From now on, if I meet a chick too early I just say I will contact you when I get there. Fuck sending mundane messages back and forth everyday. I save every chick in my phone with the age and city code, so when I get to a city I just punch that city code into the Whatsapp search bar and send a message to every chick saying what are you doing if I am not sure who it is.
PedroMorales
01-16-19, 12:57
From now on, if I meet a chick too early I just say I will contact you when I get there. Fuck sending mundane messages back and forth everyday.For shame. Valentine's Day is soon on us and you probably have not stocked in flowers and chocolates. You cad!
From the Phllstar.
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2019/01/14/1884910/us-navy-exec-axed-paid-sex-philippines
The guy was walking around with girls from AC and had 10 come to his room the greedy boy. But as he was in charge of a US ship etc he now is no longer in charge for enjoying himself with nice pinays. And yet they voted for Trump who like to grab pussy and allegedly had lots of fun with Stormy and others.
Funny old world (well at least in the USA) LOL.As a former air force officer I can assure you that G. I. means Government Issue E. G, owned. Poor bastard. I would have given him the Meritorious Service Medal instead. As for Trump and Stormy that is no allegation and he admits it. Cheers, mate.
That is a lot of shit to go through.Agreed but people still do it, paranoid that they need to start early
See option 2 - far easier and actually gives better results.
I save every chick in my phone with the age and city code, so when I get to a city I just punch that city code into the Whatsapp search bar and send a message to every chick saying what are you doing if I am not sure who it is.When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?
Mr Enternational
01-16-19, 17:19
When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?No idea. I send individually. I don't want to fuck up.
Option 2: Arrive. "Hi. I'm staying near Ayala. Would you like to meet?" She comes over. You fuck her.
.Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.
Wicked Roger
01-16-19, 19:28
When you send a broadcast message in WA or Viber can the girls see the CC'ed names or do you have to copy paste individual chats?Not in WhatsApp as I have done this before and still do and no one else knows who the same message goes to.
Mr Enternational
01-16-19, 21:28
Not in WhatsApp as I have done this before and still do and no one else knows who the same message goes to.But do they know it is a same message? Like when some of my friends send me things it says forwarded.
Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.Sure. I'd go on 2 or 3 platonic first dates per trip.
It's very rarely a surprise though. In the lead up chat these girls are pretty up front. If she says she's not meeting you in your hotel or even that she doesn't play around on the first date then you know what you are in for.
I've got no issue with this as my trips are usually pretty long so a peppering of dates with girls that are good company is actually refreshing. On a couple of occasions I've actually found out that there is no chemistry and not wanted to progress to sex.
I've written before that, opposite to home, sex is so available in Asia that it doesn't have to be the aim of every meeting. For me at least. Of course, I'm struggling to remember a second date where she didn't put a lot of effort into saying thanks for being the perfect gentleman that I am. 😉.
Wicked Roger
01-17-19, 20:21
But do they know it is a same message? Like when some of my friends send me things it says forwarded.If a picture yes as I get friends sending me videos / photos etc and is the same as your screen shot. But a message not so. IF there are concerns you can always copy it then paste it multiple times. Same difference LOL.
It worked!! 😳.
"I don't know what you're talking about but if you are so concerned grab the kids and come up here. I'll book a nice place and we can have a family holiday for the last week. ".
Might have to slow down a bit to make sure there are a couple of shots left in the chamber when she arrives but it's a small price to pay.
Talk about lucky beating skillful. That's was close. 😅.I did take it easy for the last few days in Manila so that I wasn't shattered when I returned.
I've now left PH and having a happy family holiday at a midway tourist area that I know my family enjoy.
To answer the PMs about what happened: there was no Bobbitt-esque reception. The matter hasnt been discussed except for a coupe of comments supporting my plausible denial story and the lack of security with Air BnBs. I'd be kidding myself if I thought that what happened was not understood and been forgiven and forgotten but it hasn't been a deal breaker worth breaking up the family.
My intention is not to bring it up and let it pass. For my next trip, the weather will be too bad to scuba in the Philippines but there will be some nice options in Indonesia. I'll be back to PH, just after a politically acceptable time.
Nice Guy 99
01-18-19, 07:59
Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.In Asia. No.
Has anyone ever had a girl come over thinking it was just a date and didn't get to fuck her? Take her out to eat, grab a drink and then she refuses to come back to your room.I have had a couple dates where I refused to invite her back but never one where she was unwilling.
I would like to try something different from the usual vacation in Angeles and Subic and visit someplace with a clean beach and good food. So my question is:
1. Where can I find someplace with a nice beach and a resort-like atmosphere?
2. Is there local talent or do I need to make a pit stop and bring someone?
I'm' thinking if a 3-4 day excursion, than back to Angeles for the usual fun and games.
Thanks!!
WestCoast1
01-22-19, 03:59
1. Where can I find someplace with a nice beach and a resort-like atmosphere?A bunch of resorts on eastern Mactan island (the small island where the Int'l Cebu airport is, just across the bridge from Cebu); Tambuli Resort and Maribago Resort are some of those that I remember there. On Google Maps, enter "Resorts on Mactan Island". Bohol beach resorts (the resorts are, like Cebu, across the bridge from Bohol on tiny Panglao Island); Alona Resort (or Alona Kew), Pearl Resort, Bougainvilla Resort, Bohol Beach Club, Calypso Resort. Try White Beach (Puerto Galera). El Nido, Palawan. Cumigan Island (off northern Mindanao, near Gingoog). Siargao Island (ends of the earth here, you catch a ferry from Surigao City, northeast Mindanao); Eddies Beach Resort, Cherinicole Resort, La Luna Island Resort. And Boracay.
2. Is there local talent or do I need to make a pit stop and bring someone?Except for Puerto Galera, bring someone. Or, make Westy happy and bring: Someone (s).
A bunch of resorts on eastern Mactan island (the small island where the Int'l Cebu airport is, just across the bridge from Cebu); Tambuli Resort and Maribago Resort are some of those that I remember there. On Google Maps, enter "Resorts on Mactan Island". Bohol beach resorts (the resorts are, like Cebu, across the bridge from Bohol on tiny Panglao Island); Alona Resort (or Alona Kew), Pearl Resort, Bougainvilla Resort, Bohol Beach Club, Calypso Resort. Try White Beach (Puerto Galera). El Nido, Palawan. Cumigan Island (off northern Mindanao, near Gingoog). Siargao Island (ends of the earth here, you catch a ferry from Surigao City, northeast Mindanao); Eddies Beach Resort, Cherinicole Resort, La Luna Island Resort. And Boracay.
Except for Puerto Galera, bring someone. Or, make Westy happy and bring: Someone (s).I enjoyed myself at Crimson Resort on Mactan Island a few years back. Note that Cebu's airport is on Mactan Island and some resorts offer transportation. My friend stayed in the Shangri La resort last month and the pics looked great. You can try your luck finding a girl in Cebu City (which does take awhile to get to from the resorts on Mactan) but probably best if you bring your own as it could be time-intensive and you have this nice resort awaiting you.
VictorHugo99
01-22-19, 22:56
Hi friends and great gurus,
Looking forward to going in February to: Manila for 3 day visit. Negros for work and Sipalay for 3 day diving.
Victor.
Hi friends and great gurus,
Looking forward to going in February to: Manila for 3 day visit. Negros for work and Sipalay for 3 day diving.
Victor.Sounds like you'll be spending more time in taxis and the dreaded Manila airports than anywhere else. Good luck.
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