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AussieGaigin
01-29-20, 00:00
Hi gents,
Is there any Corona Virus issue applying by NAIA immigration for the incoming visitors from Thailand? Since it became world threat and Thailand also in the list. Recent update would be much appreciated.If it is a "world threat", you will be under suspicion too.
If it is a "world threat", you will be under suspicion too.We can not say who is not.
Centuria Medical Center. Brand new, across the street (Luna St) from Century Mall, Gramercy (I had my back to the Gramercy Residences literally taking those pics), next to Trump Tower, Knightsbridge and Milano Residences and A-Venue. Anyone tried the place?WC,
I just got to the Milano last night, it's very nice. I've been a long time member of this board, but never posted for various reasons. I feel compiled to advise everyone to stay away from Malate, or anywhere in Phils that the Chinese gather in numbers. After arriving in manila last Thursday, I stayed in a condo by Greenbelt, and proceeded to come down with a bad cold. SOB. I only had one night of sex with a smoochi girl, huge tits and a lot of fun! So, I checkout yesterday, I already reserved a room at Malate Bayview Mansion 2 months ago figuring I'd check out the Malate seen, wrong. LOL. I arrive to the mansion, go through the entrance, and a security had had a handheld laser temperature gadget, points at my forehead, and I proceed through. That really spooked me out. I start looking around and everyone, I mean everyone is wearing a mask. It's obvious by now that this place is full of Chinese folks. It felt like a dystopian science fiction show, but I'm in it! Anyways, I did an E & E, and got the hell out of there! So, I'm goona hang in Makati for another 5-6 days, anybody wants to hang and have a few, I'd appreciate some decent conversion and a laugh.
Booked another trip in mid May: Cebu and AC.
Sent in my subscription fee via snail mail a few weeks back. Hopefully it gets processed soon!
If any members want to meet up for drinks and hit the streets, let me know!
CenTexCrash
01-30-20, 20:19
Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.
Member #4698
01-30-20, 21:03
Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.Your flight from HKG back to Athens may get cancelled too. That would be a good thing because then you could book a flight from MNL back to Athens and avoid China. HKG sucks by the way. The alternative is check see if there are still flights from A) MNL to HKG or B) AC to Macau, or C) MNL to Macau. From Macau you can take the ferry straight to HKG airport on the day of your flight. But rebooking your return flight from MNL would be your best option if the airline permits it.
I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.I think it's a must! I've been there a couple times a year over the last eight years and I have never had a problem finding beautiful GFE girls in the bars. I'm not sure why others have such a hard time! Good luck and give it a go mate!
I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.With only 1 week you are not going to have much time to do all three. You need more to cover all three. That short time frame won't give you much room to establish much of a plan anywhere.
I'm going to the Phillip. In March and have a week available. Already going to spend a few days in Cebu. And of course Manila. Is it worth going to Angeles? I RTFF and note it seems over priced and many girls don't cater to white middle aged guys, or rather prefer a different flavor guy with loads of cash. Reminds me of Pattaya. Which last time wasn't as much fun for those same reasons. Any special reason to go to Angeles, apart from convenience? Just think my time is better spent in more laid back places.
Thanks for the help.
EQ.WR is right. You have read the reports. No sense in going to AC.
Please post reports on Cebu and Manila.
Conquest to blend mongering in both Europe and Asia got a punch in the teeth.
Scoot Air fly into Manila from Athens Wednesday morning.
Exit is 7 pm Sunday depart AC Clark to Hong Kong via Cebu Pacific for a 24 stopover in Hong Kong to catch Emirates flight back to Athens (the scenic route).
Just got a nastygram from Cebu Pacific that CRK-HKG has been cancelled, options are to catch the next available Monday 6 am, find a different city in PH to stage myself in, or start a new life in PH.
I can't miss my Emirates HKG-ATH flight.Speak with Emirates and tell them you are worried about Coronavirus. Ask to be put on their CRK- (CEB) -DXB / DXB-ATH or MNL-DXB / DXB-ATH. Probably can be done for no charge given the mania about the virus.
And as for Cebu Pacicfic, make sure you take the full refund option. Do not chose the "travel fund" or whatever they call their sink hole.
PP.
CenTexCrash
01-31-20, 19:51
Speak with Emirates and tell them you are worried about Coronavirus.
PP.Was multitasking on that last post where I was also in a chat session with Emirates who clarified as of Thu Jan 30 all Hong Kong flights are going as scheduled. That'll be my luck 2 weeks from now t minus 3 days they pull the rug on me.
I scheduled Athens / Pinay hobbying over two months ago FML.
Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll see
CenTexCrash
01-31-20, 20:13
See reports on WeChat. What about Bumble, Seeking Arrangements and Badoo?
Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll seeWhy not seek a departure directly from a Ph airport with MNL, CRK or CEB. You will avoid yourself having to go through with another carrier to get to HKG or SIN.
CenTexCrash
02-01-20, 00:45
Edit: was going to ask Emirates can they change the HKG-DXB leg to SIN-DXB but we'll seeIf I'm reading Emirates's site correctly I may qualify to have my flight changed from flyimg out of Hong Kong to either Manila, Singapore, Kuala Lumpur to name a few. At no charge.
May have to play it safe and put off HK this go around.
Albert9989
02-01-20, 00:58
I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.
I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.If you are just a transit through HKG, then no need to change at all.
I understand the only reason CenTexCrash needs to trigger the change is due to the kids at CebuPacific changing their flights.
Forgot to mention, in the years when I'm living exclusively in the west I get prescribed an antibiotic once per year for something. On the years that I'm snogging farm girls and low cost hooker sin AC, I average about 5 infections per year.
I say this for those worried about coronavirus. A few days in AC with 2-3 different girls per day is probably a greater respiratory risk than flying through HKG.
MarquisdeSade1
02-01-20, 23:12
https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/politics/article/3047934/chinese-prostitution-dens-sell-sex-wechat-and-telegram-its-fast
CenTexCrash
02-03-20, 23:07
Anyone? Apps?
See reports on WeChat. What about Bumble, Seeking Arrangements and Badoo?
Anyone? Apps?
My Phils app experience recently:
Hits-likes:
Tinder. On fire.
Bumble. Very quiet, not many users.
Badoo. If Tinder is on fire, this is an atomic bomb.
F. Cupid. On fire (but a website, not an app. Has the advantage of setting up meetings a day or 2 prior to landing in said city).
Meet up success rate:
Tinder. Very good, but 1 lady bay got as far as into my room despite saying he / she was 100% woman, but I kicked him / her out when he / she balked at proving it to me.
Bumble. Zero.
Badoo. Good.
F. Cupid. Very good.
Once the girls share contact number, it moves over to:
Text - +/- 40%.
Whatsapp - +/- 50%.
FBook - 10% (I always say I don't have, which can fudge the numbers).
Viber. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
Skype. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
I have the same. I am in Phil now, Cebu, then Palawan and Bohol.
Flight back is from Manila to Zurich via HKG on Swiss.
They propose changes for free but not for HKG, it's still considered as safe.
I continue to check.So far they say hkg is safe. Problem is when you land in your western country will they quarantine you for 14 days because you transited through hkg.
CenTexCrash
02-04-20, 04:45
My Phils app experience recently:Good to know. Weird I used Bumble briefly in April 2019 and got a few girls messaging me. One girl said I'll add you on WhatsApp and I was like How? I haven't even given you my number.
Neeeeext question: decent temp sim card brand in case T-Mobile goes sour on me?
(Sorry if I've been monopolizing the PH forum lately).
CenTexCrash
02-04-20, 04:52
So far they say hkg is safe. Problem is when you land in your western country will they quarantine you for 14 days because you transited through hkg.Cebu Pacific pulled the rug x 2. I was about to rebook from cancelled Sunday night to early Monday morning. Cebu suspended ALL flights to Hong Kong.
My other leg I'm counting on, Emirates officially about 16 hours ago suspended flights to Gangzhou 55 miles north of HK then turn around and tell me HK is fine.
Facebook users telling me how is HK fine when they still have inbound flights from Wuhan?
Hoping tomorrow morning Emirates comes to their senses. In mean time think I'll book a $65 one way to Singapore just to put something on paper.
Anyone? Apps?I've had no success with Badoo, 1 in 2 months from tinder, 3 from DIA and I think 8 - 10 from PL. I have had 2 from Tan Tan and a couple more I plan to meet. I have had a few Wechat offers but never committed. I have had a few referrals and repeats from previous visits. I try not to get anyone older than 22. I like thin girls and most have been on the attractive side. 3 had baby damage that precludes repeating but one is happy to refer other girls. Mostly I pay 2500 to 3500 depending on various factors for 2 shots and no condom. I don't pay any subscription fees for these sites.
Below is today's 19 yo.
Once the girls share contact number, it moves over to:
Text - +/- 40%.
Whatsapp - +/- 50%.
FBook - 10% (I always say I don't have, which can fudge the numbers).
Viber. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.
Skype. Zero, but had a couple requests, used text or whatsapp.This is interesting that the strike rate also later depends upon the communication method in addition to the source of the girl's contact.
I feel that willing aspirational (fucking) girls will seek out newer avenues so that they appear more unique IE early adopters on tantan are there to be different, not many of their friends are there. So why be there. That reinforces why Skype has zero success, it is so yesterday (and owned by Microsoft).
VictorHugo99
02-05-20, 00:49
Being in France, I confirm that ALL transit and arrival passengers have a mandatory 14 days clinical stay in quarantined quarter.
Unless your holiday exceeds way beyond 14 days, try avoiding China right now, be it HK China, mainland China or even Taiwan China.
Unless you have too much retirement time on your hands to burn.
Vic.
Cebu Pacific pulled the rug x 2. I was about to rebook from cancelled Sunday night to early Monday morning. Cebu suspended ALL flights to Hong Kong.
My other leg I'm counting on, Emirates officially about 16 hours ago suspended flights to Gangzhou 55 miles north of HK then turn around and tell me HK is fine.
Facebook users telling me how is HK fine when they still have inbound flights from Wuhan?
Hoping tomorrow morning Emirates comes to their senses. In mean time think I'll book a $65 one way to Singapore just to put something on paper.
CenTexCrash
02-05-20, 05:52
Unless your holiday exceeds way beyond 14 days, try avoiding China right now, be it HK China, mainland China or even Taiwan China.As of last 48 hours, British Airways, Delta, American, and now United have suspended service to Hong Kong. Cathay Pacific has scaled back.
Casinos and schools and ferry services have been locked down.
Emirates still sees no (dire) issue.
Emirates also has the audacity to ask Beijing outbound passengers to report to Beijing PEK departures check in 8 hours in advance.
Refunded my CRK-HKG ticket, pre-emptively bought a JetStar CRK-SIN ticket.
Gambling either Emirates will soon cave and alter my flight out of SIN vs HKG or I get to spend $$$ on another flight to HKG.
Transiting Dubai, Athens, Heathrow, before touching down in Houston. Monger opp in Athens but that's an afterthought at the moment.
As of last 48 hours, British Airways, Delta, American, and now United have suspended service to Hong Kong. Cathay Pacific has scaled back.
Casinos and schools and ferry services have been locked down.
Emirates still sees no (dire) issue.
Emirates also has the audacity to ask Beijing outbound passengers to report to Beijing PEK departures check in 8 hours in advance.
Refunded my CRK-HKG ticket, pre-emptively bought a JetStar CRK-SIN ticket.
Gambling either Emirates will soon cave and alter my flight out of SIN vs HKG or I get to spend $$$ on another flight to HKG.
Transiting Dubai, Athens, Heathrow, before touching down in Houston. Monger opp in Athens but that's an afterthought at the moment.By your reports you seem to be an unprepared walking disaster crashing.
ConquerorVal
02-06-20, 06:03
mainland China or even Taiwan ChinaJFC. Taiwan is Taiwan and not fing Taiwan China.
Albert9989
02-06-20, 06:43
I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.
WestCoast1
02-06-20, 08:30
A breakdown of where the virus has struck, by country.
https://currently.att.yahoo.com/att/where-wuhan-coronavirus-cases-confirmed-104547599.html
I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA — at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.
Radical Guy
02-08-20, 20:41
For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.I'm scheduled to travel to the Philippines in mid-March on United via Narita. I'm getting worried that the coronavirus scare might expand to impact flights to / from countries other than China. Keeping my fingers crossed.
RG.
Albert9989
02-09-20, 01:39
For next week, United changed my Cathay flight via Hong Kong, instead routing the Manila return through Narita on ANA at no expense. The other Star Alliance carriers are likely to fall into line. Interestingly, there were a lot of empty seats: I even got the upgrade without being waitlisted.I asked my company, swiss, and they propose a change from HKG stop to Singapore stop which is not far better, and with cost.
HKG for them is still under operations.
CodeName47
02-10-20, 10:37
I'm scheduled to travel to the Philippines in mid-March on United via Narita. I'm getting worried that the coronavirus scare might expand to impact flights to / from countries other than China. Keeping my fingers crossed.
RG.I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.
VictorHugo99
02-10-20, 15:27
It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.
I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.
I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.I am planning the same mid March transiting thru NRT.
By then we will know if the world is coming to an end or not.
If you are any bit worried about coronavirus then it is best to cancel any plans. I don't see how anyone worried would be able to maintain a hardon even with vitamin V or see.
Mr Enternational
02-10-20, 17:16
I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.I will be there the last week of this month. If you do not hear back from me before your trip, you will know that the virus caught up with me and I am no longer.
Radical Guy
02-10-20, 18:58
I am planing to travel during the last week of March as well. Aren't you worried about coronovirus? Not just flight delays. I am just curious and should I worry about coronovirus or not while planning for a trip.No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.
I am still in Palawan, my return flight to France is planned for the 14 of Feb, from Manila to HKG with Cathay, then HKG to Zurich with Swiss and then swiss again to France.
Either Cathay and swiss still use HKG as connecting hub at least.
For the moment I can't change nothing.I am coming first week of March. I am not concern at all considering the fact that Philippines only have 3 confirmed cases. About laying over thru main land China, Hong Kong and Macau. Immigration will not let you in. I am more worried about getting mug by street kids while walking around Manila.
GoodEnough
02-11-20, 02:59
No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.
Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.Here in California people are staying home. A couple of popular Chinese restaurants are nearly empty these days when normally they would have lines of Chinese waiting. Used to be you would go to Chinese resto populated with Chinese. Not these days for now. I have eaten a few times at one of the places and the Chinese waitress has confirmed business is down 80%.
Today I went to my Vietnamese hair dresser for a hair cut and she confirmed her business was down 75%. People are staying in and away from Asian establishments, including Asians.
I assume this will be the case for another 30 days until better results are confirmed.
Meanwhile I am planning a trip to PH in the next 30 days.
Albert9989
02-11-20, 06:52
I am in Bohol, flying back to Manila, and hotels confirm that business is very weak, mainly due to lack of all chinese tourists. But there stay many European here.
Up to now, I think Phil stay quite safe, few cases registered and far less than in my country for example, France. But are they well identified. That's also the question.
And if we contract the virus, maybe better to be in Europe or us, than here to be hospitalised.
So manila this afternoon and Friday a stop in HKG.
Engine Driver
02-11-20, 08:33
Fear of the virus is having an impact here: malls are sparsely populated as are restaurants and many local flights. I flew yesterday from Clark to Davao on PAL and the cabin attendant confirmed that bookings are way off from where they usually are. We own a restaurant here and have several friends on operate restaurants, and we've all noticed a significant reduction of dine-in customers and a significant increase in those ordering through home delivery services. So, even though the country evidently has little to worry about based on empirical evidence to date, fear and ignorance are taking a toll I think.
GE.How would home delivery be any more hygienic? We all know that Flips wash their asses with their fingers after taking a dump, and then there is never any soap to properly clean their hands afterwards. I doubt that the average Flip restaurateur provides hand sanitizer for the kitchen staff. The food will be contaminated with the bat virus regardless of dine in or take out.
CodeName47
02-11-20, 09:16
It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.Thank you for the detailed response.
From the sounds of it planing for end of March early April is a bad idea.
Albert9989
02-11-20, 09:36
It seems that it is possible still travel to infected countries, by accepting these conditions:
1) washing hands constantly.
2) not shaking hands or doing regular greeting habits (if not hand wash immediate after each greeting).
3) accepting a 14 day Leave of absence in medical quarantine upon return to originating country.
4) providing a list (traceable) of persons with contact in foreign country.
For these reasons, I would prefer not to travel for work now, since it will be impossible to enjoy our hobby under these conditions.
Victor.What do you call infected country?
CodeName47
02-11-20, 10:23
No, not really. I figure the chances of contracting that disease are about the same as staying in the US. There hasn't been much of an impact on either the Philippines or Japan, so I'm not worried. I'll be extra careful, however, about washing my hands frequently and using hand sanitizer. I'm more worried about riding in Philippine taxis. LOL.
RG.I am in the middle of finalizing the dates. Most likely will go in end of March. And will return to Melbourne on mid April. Hopefully by then there won't be any trouble getting back to Melbourne.
CodeName47
02-11-20, 10:30
I am planning the same mid March transiting thru NRT.
By then we will know if the world is coming to an end or not.
If you are any bit worried about coronavirus then it is best to cancel any plans. I don't see how anyone worried would be able to maintain a hardon even with vitamin V or see.
I will be there the last week of this month. If you do not hear back from me before your trip, you will know that the virus caught up with me and I am no longer.I am worried more about getting back to Melbourne after the trip.
Albert9989
02-11-20, 10:41
I am worried more about getting back to Melbourne after the trip.Exact, me too, that's why I will organise my own quarantine in my country as nobody wants to organise it for me.
They just say stay at home. Cool, band what about my family?
Mr Enternational
02-11-20, 15:32
From the sounds of it planing for end of March early April is a bad idea.Damn right it is a bad idea. You better go now while it is still in the baby stage. By April it will be an epidemic of biblical proportion.
It's not all bad news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTzX9JCbDY.
VictorHugo99
02-11-20, 22:17
Hi M. A,
Here are countries affected.
https://www.pharmaceutical-technology.com/features/coronavirus-outbreak-the-countries-affected/
I know that China, Singapore, Thailand, Korea and Japan now have cases who are untraceable to contact to China patients. This is making more them ensure more thorough measures.
Vic.
What do you call infected country?
It's not all bad news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYTzX9JCbDY.Brilliant.
Fizzman1970
02-12-20, 21:13
Last night I had a flight to go to the Philippines from Chicago, but Eva air wouldn't let me check-in. They said the Philippines was not accepting passengers from any Chinese Province including Taiwan. This was where my layover would have been. The only people they would let board the plane were Filipino citizens or people with Filipino passports to be more exact.
WestCoast1
02-13-20, 03:39
Last night I had a flight to go to the Philippines from Chicago, but Eva air wouldn't let me check-in. They said the Philippines was not accepting passengers from any Chinese Province including Taiwan. This was where my layover would have been. The only people they would let board the plane were Filipino citizens or people with Filipino passports to be more exact.EVA knew that in advance. Its a piss-off that they did not notify you (and all customers) in advance to re-book your flight.
Albert9989
02-13-20, 03:50
EVA knew that in advance. Its a piss-off that they did not notify you (and all customers) in advance to re-book your flight.Yes they don't accept China, Taiwan, hongkong.
Taiwan has raised the case, they don't like to be mixed with China.
Radical Guy
02-20-20, 00:12
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
RG.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
RG.It wasn't a year ago bc I had to go thru it a little while back.
Mid January, 2020 I transit thru NRT via United to Manila and as I got off the plane, like usual there was a uniformed gate person holding signs for transit passengers to go a certain way. To my surprise I walked right out to the gate waiting area. No security screening! For a minute I had a brain freeze and didn't know what to do.
So, no more secondary screening for United transit passengers.
Mr Enternational
02-20-20, 01:23
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
That is only when you are not getting on a plane to the USA. If you are coming from the USA and going to Manila then you no longer go through the security phase. But going the other way you do.
RainmanSahut
02-20-20, 02:42
Yes, mid travel security check is a pain in the butt.
No, they have not stopped requiring check at Narita.
I travel multiple times DFW NRT HAN.
Each time security check in Narita.
Happy hunting.
Rainman.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
RainmanSahut
02-20-20, 05:07
Yes, mid travel security check is a pain in the butt.
NO, they have not stopped requiring check at Narita.
I travel multiple times DFW NRT HAN.
Each time security check in Narita.
Happy hunting.
Rainman.
I have heard that, about a year ago, Narita airport stopped requiring US transit passengers to undergo security checks to go to connecting flights. Is this true? In two weeks, I'll be flying United from Houston to Manila via Narita. I always hated that damn transit security screen at Narita.
Soapy Smith
02-25-20, 21:12
Seems like no significant updates in ISG about Corona in the Philippines in the last two weeks. Apparently businesses are running slow and Philippine authorities have barred flights from Mainland China and Macau.
I'm due to travel to Manila and Iloilo for work in late April. I understand that using hand sanitizer liberally probably makes everyday life manageable in the Philippines, but I am concerned about travel restrictions. Obviously much can change in two months, but has anybody experienced or heard credible reports about: a) quarantines applied to air travelers arriving to the states from the Philippines, b) passengers being stopped in intermediate air stops such as Narita, or c) any new Philippine bans on incoming flights since they lifted the ill-informed ban on flights from Taiwan?
I have found no related updates on legitimate websites, but since the patrons here are fabulously well-informed, I thought ISG might be a reasonable place to inquire. (Yes, I read Mr. E's sarcastic trolling.) I need to make a travel decision soon.
Salamat po.
Mr Enternational
02-25-20, 21:34
Obviously much can change in two months, but has anybody experienced or heard credible reports about: a) quarantines applied to air travelers arriving to the states from the Philippines, Got this from my buddy yesterday:
Him: They flagging everybody who have flown to Asia even global entry folks. Folks are getting secondary inspections.
Me: lol. guess i will get it in april
Him: Make sure you have your bag full of dirty dildos and skid marked under wear
Soapy Smith
02-25-20, 22:14
Him: They flagging everybody who have flown to Asia even global entry folks. Folks are getting secondary inspections.My usual options are to take Delta through Narita or PAL directly from San Francisco to Manila. If Narita is likely to be a sticking point, PAL through San Francisco works okay for me.
Seems like no significant updates in ISG about Corona in the Philippines in the last two weeks. Apparently businesses are running slow and Philippine authorities have barred flights from Mainland China and Macau.
I'm due to travel to Manila and Iloilo for work in late April........
Salamat po.They are even scanning on internal travel. I took the RORO ferry from Batangus to Calapan and was given a form to fill in and had a temperature check on leaving the boat.
Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.
WestCoast1
02-26-20, 03:41
Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.
Mr Enternational
02-26-20, 04:34
Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896
Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot.
Yes but this is the first point of triage, and that is important.
Soapy Smith
02-26-20, 06:45
Guess they don't know that these temperature checks don't work.So basically the same rationale as security guard pat-downs at restaurants, malls, the light rail, government buildings, and so on? The appearance of doing something, but with no tangible outcome.
Why do you say the don't work? At many condos and hotels in Manila they are standard now for anyone entering.Because the people that are experts at this say so.
https://www.businessinsider.com/thermometer-guns-screening-for-coronavirus-notoriously-not-accurate-2020-2
https://qz.com/1806728/coronavirus-we-need-to-rethink-the-design-of-the-temperature-gun/
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-airport-temperature-checks/index.html
When SARS was going around, they didn't work then.
It is just for show kinda like TSA and simulate agencies.
So basically the same rationale as security guard pat-downs at restaurants, malls, the light rail, government buildings, and so on? The appearance of doing something, but with no tangible outcome.Pretty much, the only outcome is additional employment.
Rickys Wild
02-26-20, 13:21
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?
VictorHugo99
02-27-20, 00:02
Hi RW,
You are not alone.
I had to change my work trip due to the breakout.
My summer diving trip is also on hold till I can see clearly.
I love our M activities, but I prefer to keep my health as well.
Better be safe more than sorry.
Vic.
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?
Soapy Smith
02-27-20, 02:32
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?You're not alone. I have germaphobe friends trying to convince me to cancel my late April trip to the Philippines, as well as an early April trip from the east coast of the states to Anaheim, California. The current advice from the W. H. O. Is to not cancel travel, but take precautions. Principal precaution is hand sanitizer after touching other people, door knobs, etc. Easy to do that on an airplane. What I'm more concerned about, as I probably telegraphed earlier, is getting flight banned or quarantined in Manila, Tokyo or San Francisco.
WestCoast1
02-27-20, 03:32
Because the only thing it is going to tell you is that someone is hot. https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-29459896The article is not about sensing temperature, its about fake devices being sold to detect bombs. I assume you are alluding to the temp-sensing lasers as being fake or not working. Also, in a quarantining situation regarding fever as a symptom, one of the first and least invasive symptoms to discover is fever. We are going to want to isolate everyone with a fever, and that will probably mean also initially isolating anyone with a suspected fever until it can be determined that the person does not have the virus. If the person claims they are hot only because they were outside in the sun, or exercising, then re-testing temperature a few minutes later will remove these false-negatives quickly from the isolation pool.
Because the people that are experts at this say so.
https://www.businessinsider.com/thermometer-guns-screening-for-coronavirus-notoriously-not-accurate-2020-2
https://qz.com/1806728/coronavirus-we-need-to-rethink-the-design-of-the-temperature-gun/
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/02/19/health/coronavirus-airport-temperature-checks/index.html
When SARS was going around, they didn't work then.
It is just for show kinda like TSA and simulate agencies.To make the case. One of these articles says that the system of using the laser-temp devices were only successful in about half the cases. That might sound bad, but even if the devices catch only a small percentage of persons with fever, this would be considered successful, as many of those fevered persons might have the virus. Annoying the many, to protect the many? I agree, its a bit TSA-ish in approach and scope. Will PM you with some other info KG.
Chocha Monger
02-27-20, 05:13
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?The plane is not the problem. Sharing Pinay pussy with infectious mongers from China, Korean, and Italy who do BBFSCIP is a bigger concern. The China virus gives "dying for a fuck" a completely new meaning.
You're not alone. I have germaphobe friends trying to convince me to cancel my late April trip to the Philippines, as well as an early April trip from the east coast of the states to Anaheim, California. The current advice from the W. H. O. Is to not cancel travel, but take precautions. Principal precaution is hand sanitizer after touching other people, door knobs, etc. Easy to do that on an airplane. What I'm more concerned about, as I probably telegraphed earlier, is getting flight banned or quarantined in Manila, Tokyo or San Francisco.You're right but if the OP is concerned enough to raise questions on this board I would recommend delaying his trip. Not because of the probability of contracting Carona but looking over his shoulder every 5 minutes and being constantly worried would suck big time and is not conducive to an enjoyable trip. Better to delay to when he can have a good time with fewer concerns.
Of course if it doesn't concern you then a holiday devoid of K and CHN competition and girls desperate for cash certainly has its benefits. 😀.
Enjoy. G.
Albert9989
02-27-20, 09:58
Am I alone?You are not alone.
I was in Phil between 25 Jan. Up to 15 Feb with a stop in HKG on both arrival and departure.
I did all my trip as usual in manila, cebu, Palawan, Bohol without any specific precautions, only washing hands with alcoholic solution.
I had a temp control when exiting the ferry at Bohol wharf, also a questionnaire to fill in the ferry before arrival but the guy didn't take it back so I still have it with me. Was on 8th of Feb.
Also in HKG airport no specific actions or information, only frontal temperature checked once, and in the flight from HKG to Swiss no masks for the crew.
Then arrived in France no specific actions also.
But, by security I did a 14 days quarantine on myself to avoid any risks for my family and friends. Nothing happens.
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?No, you are not alone. I have trip planned middle of March to Philippines and Thailand. I have been watching and reading about Corona Virus. Unless airlines cancel flights I am not going to get refund. Hotels also may loose one night charge.
I am not so worried about getting sick in Philippines and Thailand and will take usual precautions but not sure who these girls have been with. Will I enjoy or regret going?
Also what if when I come back USA will ask me to go on quarantine. That is going to put a bummer. How to explain to my family and friends where I went and why I went. I keep my travels secret. Although I am going direct to Philippines and no stops anywhere still has me worried.
Philippine girls are always sniffling mainly because of their living conditions and pollution. Will it take the fun away. Will I get spooked? What if my neighbor in the plane is coughing. I believe Philippines is understating the threat. For that matter possibly Thailand also.
I guess I need to play it by ear and start making calls to see what's the damage if I cancel. Problem is I always book flights, hotels and chat and agree with the girls for stay and fun well before. Some are real pretty and showed their bodies on cam. All are as I understand normal girls.
Just chatting to one of my regulars. It seems she is getting desperate with no customers there. Trying to sell me cam or video, unfortunately for her there is so much porn on the net why bother. I did my bit with a goodbye fuck on my second last night.
Steve Nash
02-28-20, 00:32
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?I would suggest wearing a N95 Mask and using alcohol or a good sanitizer during your whole flight.
When I was in Cebu I saw lots of people wearing mask, now that I'm in the province I don't see that many people wearing mask. Actually I saw a mass wedding in Bacolod last week, it was open to the public, 220 couples getting married while wearing masks, that happened on February 20 (2/20/2020).
I personally don't like wearing mask so I don't wear one, not even in the long bus rides (8+ hours trip), what I do always is bring alcohol with me and clean my hands all the time.
One thing I notice is that some airbnb condos will ask you for your travel info if they know you are a tourist. I got lucky that I arrived early in the Philippines (January 10) before the Corona Virus exploded worldwide, so they didn't asked me that many questions. But if you arrived in the Philippines late January for sure they will ask you alot of questions about your health and your where a bouts. Good thing I'm here for 6 months, hopefully by July or August there are not that many flight restrictions, but I doubt it, it seems this virus will stay here for a while longer.
Radical Guy
02-28-20, 05:35
Looks like we may have difficulty traveling to the Philippines if connecting through Narita. Am I reading this right?
https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/27/20/japan-may-be-included-in-phs-covid-19-travel-ban-duque
RG.
Mr Enternational
02-28-20, 05:53
Looks like we may have difficulty traveling to the Philippines if connecting through Narita. Am I reading this right?
https://news.abs-cbn.com/overseas/02/27/20/japan-may-be-included-in-phs-covid-19-travel-ban-duque
RG.Well it is not today. Because I am in Narita waiting for my Manila flight right now.
Mr Enternational
02-28-20, 19:14
In the plane and at the airport a bunch of people had on masks. Nothing different going on at the airports. Out in the city (Manila) nobody has any masks on. At the concierge podium outside at the hotel, there is a thermometer. Looks to be the kind you stick into the ear.
Radical Guy
02-29-20, 01:03
In the plane and at the airport a bunch of people had on masks. Nothing different going on at the airports. Out in the city (Manila) nobody has any masks on. At the concierge podium outside at the hotel, there is a thermometer. Looks to be the kind you stick into the ear.Well, hopefully the status quo will continue for awhile. I'm flying to Manila via Narita in mid-March, and worried about flight cancellations.
Well it is not today. Because I am in Narita waiting for my Manila flight right now.Transiting thru NRT was the secondary security gone?
Mr Enternational
02-29-20, 02:52
Transiting thru NRT was the secondary security gone?Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.
RainmanSahut
02-29-20, 03:38
Hate to Disagree.
Japan / Narita requires security screen for Thru Flight (Connecting Flights) International passengers both directions.
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/security/connection/connection_ss/
Sorry.
Rainman.
Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.
Radical Guy
02-29-20, 16:43
Well, it's started. United just canceled my flights to / from Manila connecting through Narita.
Mr Enternational
02-29-20, 17:27
Hate to Disagree.
Japan / Narita requires security screen for Thru Flight (Connecting Flights) International passengers both directions.
https://www.narita-airport.jp/en/security/connection/connection_ss/
Sorry.
Rainman.
Like I said before, you only do that security going back to the USA.LOL. How could you disagree when I just did it yesterday? Okay, technically you are screened because they ask you the questions about your belongings. But you and your stuff do not have to go through a machine.
Engine Driver
03-01-20, 05:21
Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?
Mr Enternational
03-02-20, 01:35
Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?Some of the best scuba diving in the world is in PI. I don't go places just for promiscuous women. If you look on the internet, there is loads of that in my own damn country.
Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?There are tourists and there are mongers. Tourists are there to enjoy new countries and places. If sex is there they will partake but that is not the primary reason they go there.
Mongers like me go to countries primarily for girls and will go sightseeing, water sports etc. There are many countries known for it not just Philippines.
Promiscuous women are there everywhere but in Philippines they do not care for the age difference. I am talking about regular girls. Prostitutes will sleep with anybody for money.
More and more bargirls in many countries nowadays have a choice of who they go with and who they do not although they are considered prostitutes. Bars used to angry with girls who do not barfine because most of the money is from barfine. I do not know if they let go of the girls for that reason.
Just a simple question. If Filipinas were not universally considered as the most promiscuous women on the planet, would any tourists bother going to the Philippines?As a Filipino, my answer is I don't know. Probably because I am someone who prefers traveling to Europe during my free time. Depends on one's interest though as mine is sightseeing castles, churches, and other old buildings. I am also attracted to white girls as well. That is just me though.
WestCoast1
03-05-20, 09:37
For those who like airbnb (including myself): https://www.wired.co.uk/article/airbnb-scam-london-suspended?utm_source=digg&utm_medium=email.
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?I have been reading the NY Times daily Coronavirus Briefing and the news coming out of China where most of the data is coming says that most infections are family related, and infections emanating from casual contact are the exception to the rule.
https://messaging-custom-newsletters.nytimes.com/template/oakv2?uri=nyt://newsletter/b1de8072-2e49-4dd0-8135-307998970c1c&productCode=CB&te=1&nl=coronavirus-briefing&emc=edit_cb_20200304&campaign_id=154&instance_id=16486&segment_id=21875&user_id=ba374183ba7eefb8e43aca32c048e7c7®i_id=71045823
Member #4698
03-05-20, 13:47
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?No you are not alone. Many people are canceling or delaying their trips. I personally think the risks are way overblown and hyped by the media so I have not cancelled my upcoming trip although with the decreased airline demand there is a possibility that my United flight through Tokyo may be cancelled or merged with others. I have my fingers crossed this does not happen, but we will see what we see.
As to fellow passengers sneezing & coughing on the plane: I hate that! But I believe that particular risk is way down from normal due to the extraordinary pre flight screening that is going on at all major international airports due to the virus. I also think the risk of catching the disease in the PI, Thailand, Vietnam, or Indonesia is significantly less than the risk of catching it in the Northern hemisphere like in Italy or the USA and I think that the risk in the North is low, but if you are nervous about it then cancel or postpone your trip. I am sure SE Asia will still be around when you decide it is safe. For me, I think it is relatively safe now and I am going unless new data hits the fan or my flight is cancelled. I think now is a really great time to be in SE ASia. I hear the girls are very lonely. LOL. I am in good health. I will take rational precautions just as I would to avoid the flu. I don't think there is much to worry about. I could be wrong, ha ha, but statistically, I don't think so.
Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).
Mr Enternational
03-05-20, 16:44
I usually don't worry about things but corona has me a little freaked. The rising cases in Korea along with the amount of Korean tourists has me a little worried, but mostly it is flying. Anyone else leery about being on a plane for 15 hours? I always seem to be near someone sneezing or coughing and I can't get the thought out of my mind. I feel like a big pussy right now begging out on my trip. Am I alone?Are you afraid of catching it en route or at your destination? You could just as well catch it at home too. There is nobody on the flights to worry about catching it in the air. And the people that are in planes are wearing masks. Don't know how they eat with them on though.
The other day I was talking to my mom. She said I should be in the States instead of Asia. I said no way. Things are just fine in this part of Asia. She said if I got sick it would be better to die at home. I told her that if I was dead it would not matter where I was. I told her she should come to Asia. The next day there were 2 cases announced in our city. She sent me a message joking saying she was on her way to Asia.
If it is your time then you are out of here. Haven't you seen the Final Destination series? Live it up and have fun while you are here. Don't let a little disease deter you.
Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).For that matter it is better to wear Hazmat suite. However there are infinite ways to catch the virus if there is a carrier on board.
For that matter it is better to wear Hazmat suite. However there are infinite ways to catch the virus if there is a carrier on board.Of course, do whatever works for you, and your peace of mind. In Manila airport, it's nice of them giving out free small plastic containers of virus killing liquid and blue soap. Every airport and every airline, like every person is just following their own rules here. No consistency or uniformity.
Over the past several weeks on my United flights through Narita and Frankfurt, no United employees were masked. In the airports, most of Asiatics were masked, but very few westerners, whether they could get masks or not who knows. I bought a nice 3 M respirator (only $30) and actually wore it walking through the airport and on the plane (nrt-ewr) -- until mealtime. It's a nice little device, easy to wear and totally eliminates bad air smell in addition to virus (although as noted, virus can infect via the eyes, so get yourself protective googles, too.).From CDC:
Follow CDC’s recommendations for using a facemask.
CDC does not recommend that people who are well wear a facemask to protect themselves from respiratory diseases, including COVID-19.
Facemasks should be used by people who show symptoms of COVID-19 to help prevent the spread of the disease to others.There is no health reason for a healthy person to wear a face mask.
Social media maybe the reason for people wearing them.
From CDC:
There is no health reason for a healthy person to wear a face mask.
Social media maybe the reason for people wearing them.If I was traveling international, I'd wear a face mask. It would prevent me from unconsciously scratching my nose / lips / lower face with possibly contaminated fingers; I'd have to remove the mask to do so. Which would remind me to sanitize first, or wash my hands.
I'd wear glasses for the same protection for my eyes. It won't help against airborne pathogens would prevent me from rubbing the possible virus on my hands into my eyes.
So wearing a mask is high on the benefits / cost curve, and has no risk. Now, wearing gloves would be useless.
Mr Enternational
03-07-20, 15:51
If I was traveling international, I'd wear a face mask. It would prevent me from unconsciously scratching my nose / lips / lower face with possibly contaminated fingers; I'd have to remove the mask to do so. Which would remind me to sanitize first, or wash my hands.
Yes, but that is not the reason everybody else is wearing them. Besides that, they are not wearing the right kind.
Yes, but that is not the reason everybody else is wearing them. Besides that, they are not wearing the right kind.Yes correct again. Too many are wearing 'dust' masks which helps them nought in respect of viruses. Its psychological, people feel safer wearing what in effect are dust masks. Senior Health Experts say the only ones who need to wear the appropriate masks (N95 , P2 , where I come from), are those WITH the virus.
Lots have also bought the WRONG hand sanitizers from their local Supermarket. The Saniterzer has to have 60% or more alcohol content to be effective. The ones they are buying apply to germs, not viruses.
"Stay at home" says the Doctor. Not easy to do, LOL.
VictorHugo99
03-07-20, 22:32
Hi M S.
You are well informed.
As well, the Right mask only lasts MAX 4 hours!
The mask budget might exceed the mongering budget after some time LOL.
Vic.
Yes correct again. Too many are wearing 'dust' masks which helps them nought in respect of viruses. Its psychological, people feel safer wearing what in effect are dust masks. Senior Health Experts say the only ones who need to wear the appropriate masks (N95 , P2 , where I come from), are those WITH the virus.
Lots have also bought the WRONG hand sanitizers from their local Supermarket. The Saniterzer has to have 60% or more alcohol content to be effective. The ones they are buying apply to germs, not viruses.
"Stay at home" says the Doctor. Not easy to do, LOL.
Hi M S.
You are well informed.
As well, the Right mask only lasts MAX 4 hours!
The mask budget might exceed the mongering budget after some time LOL.
Vic.And I have just learnt, the masks are made in Wuhan, home of the virus!
Guys, I have fucked up my next flights and will be departing on my 31st day.
Will I be able to sweet talk a 31 day VOA? If not, can I extend on arrival day at NAIA?
I paid the fine at NAIA Departure once before so am reluctant to do it again lest I make it on some undesirable overstayer list.
I'm hunting in the Province so getting back to a Immigration office for a 1 day extension is going to be a major PITA.
Ideas?
Thanks. G.
Guys, I have fucked up my next flights and will be departing on my 31st day.
Will I be able to sweet talk a 31 day VOA? If not, can I extend on arrival day at NAIA?
I paid the fine at NAIA Departure once before so am reluctant to do it again lest I make it on some undesirable overstayer list.
I'm hunting in the Province so getting back to a Immigration office for a 1 day extension is going to be a major PITA.
Ideas?
Thanks. G.If I remember correctly, they do not count the day of entry. So you might be just 30 days there. Ask the immigration person for the date of your 30 days to be sure.
Otherwise there are many BI offices through out PH. Many province BI offices are easy to get extension without long wait.
Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.
WestCoast1
03-09-20, 06:15
Otherwise there are many BI offices through out PH. Many province BI offices are easy to get extension without long wait.
Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.Extended in a Mindanao province recently. Decided to go early, when they opened up at 8 am. I was the only non-employee there. Filled out the form and dropped off the required documents, then sat and waited 5 minutes. Then I paid and got a receipt (1 hour processing), sat for another 5 minutes. Then a lady called my name and handed me back all my documents and the extension. "Have a good day sir". Thanks! Total less than 15 minutes. Not a single other customer walked in while I was there.
Thanks guys. After a little more research, I think DG's comments are correct and the clock starts on the day after arrival. So arrive on the 1st and leave on the 31st is ok.
Cheers. G.
Engine Driver
03-09-20, 08:54
Go to BI website for locations. One time I extended in Davao and it was a very pleasant experience.I guess at the BI queue, there will always be an errant DH to entertain.
Mr Enternational
03-09-20, 17:21
I know y'all love Jolibee:
https://www.scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/3074285/philippine-fast-food-giant-jollibee-loses-us2-billion
Extended in a Mindanao province recently. Decided to go early, when they opened up at 8 am. ...... Total less than 15 minutes. Not a single other customer walked in while I was there.
I have always beenn and out quick at government pffoices if I can get there as soon as they open. People here are just not morning people.
Renewed my SRRV, in and out in less than 45 minutes, good to go for 3 years, most of that time was waiting for them to print the plastic card.
Mr Enternational
03-12-20, 14:59
My girlfriend just hit me up and said President Duterte just ordered the lock down of Manila starting March 15 until April 14. Land, domestic air and sea travel coming in and going out of Manila is not allowed starting March 15.
GoodEnough
03-12-20, 15:58
My girlfriend just hit me up and said President Duterte just ordered the lock down of Manila starting March 15 until April 14. Land, domestic air and sea travel coming in and going out of Manila is not allowed starting March 15.Here's a link verifying the above:
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/12/20/coronavirus-philippines-metro-manila-lockdown
DzikaBomba
03-12-20, 22:31
Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.html
Radical Guy
03-13-20, 01:15
Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.htmlIt is unclear what countries are included. US? So far, United hasn't canceled my flight from Houston to Manila.
GoodEnough
03-13-20, 02:57
For those contemplating a visit here, I'the urge you to reconsider postponing your travel. Manila goes into lockdown mode tomorrow. Davao and General Santos City are already in lockdown. Angeles City has imposed severe restrictions on who gets into or out of the city. In Davao, where I live, the official proclamation From the local government mandates that no residents may leave; that all visitors must leave, and that those considering travel here are urged to postpone the travel until the emergency ends. My guess is that many cities are going to follow this lead and attempt to seal themselves off from the rest of the country for a month or two. According to the most recent announcement from the President, "social distancing" will be rigidly enforced by the PNP and AFP, which doesn't create a happy situation for bars encouraging social closeness.
Here is Davao, which I assume to be at least somewhat representative of the other larger cities in the country, serious hoarding has already begun, and I'm guessing that it won't be long before we witness perturbations of the supply chains that allow restaurants and food sellers to restock. My impression, for whatever it's worth, is that the national government here is serious about trying to contain this virus and it's not messing around. I note as well that per President Duterte, the AFP is now authorized to make arrests of those who do not comply.
Again, just my opinion as someone who's noting the changes to daily life here in Davao.
GE.
Its over!
No more Tourists allowed from countries with Corona to enter the Philippines.
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2020/3/12/Philippines-expands-travel-ban-to-all-countries-with-local-COVID-19-transmission.htmlI just don't understand all the drama over Covid19. Like the flu if you catch it, you will 98% get well, then you are immune. Folks with other poor heath issues "might" die but that has always been the case with virus illnesses. Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.
John Clayton
03-13-20, 04:10
...Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.It's not about you, it's about the health care system as a whole. I don't really care that much about nursing home residents, prisoners, or the homeless, but when they get deathly sick (and they will), it will paralyze the hospitals. It's happened in Italy. I mean, I think you'll change your tune if you're in a car crash, or shot, or fall off a roof and there're no ambulances, no respirators and not doctors.
For those contemplating a visit here, I'the urge you to reconsider postponing your travel. Manila goes into lockdown mode tomorrow. GE."The Ninoy Aquino International Airport will remain open for international flights but passengers must be from and are going to stay in Metro Manila. For those who will go to the provinces, passengers must fly via the Clark International Airport, Nograles said. ".
So Clark Airport will still be open for domestic flights.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/03/13/20/what-is-community-quarantine-lockdown-metro-manila-philippines
Engine Driver
03-13-20, 08:38
It's not about you, it's about the health care system as a whole. I don't really care that much about nursing home residents, prisoners, or the homeless, but when they get deathly sick (and they will), it will paralyze the hospitals. It's happened in Italy. I mean, I think you'll change your tune if you're in a car crash, or shot, or fall off a roof and there're no ambulances, no respirators and not doctors.You are spot on. The lives of millions of people are being disrupted through illness, death, job losses, school closures, hospital meltdowns and general fear of the unknown. The stock market has crashed 30% in a month. Further global disruption will continue because of the Wuhan virus.
Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into. I'm glad the mongers have their priorities right.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-13-20, 09:33
I just don't understand all the drama over Covid19. Like the flu if you catch it, you will 98% get well, then you are immune. Folks with other poor heath issues "might" die but that has always been the case with virus illnesses. Our Fearless leaders are getting press time telling us how concerned for us they are. Chicken Littles.This mass hysteria for what is essentially another flu strain is a bad sign. IMO it shows how many anxious and crazy people are out there and how many corrupt and dishonest politicians and media outlets are willing to exploit their anxieties for personal gain.
International flights will continue except from countries with confirmed local transmission of COVID-19. A list of these countries has yet to be made public so nothing is certain right now.
WestCoast1
03-13-20, 13:10
A different take on disease. An opinion article in today's Manila Bulletin, regarding the cash (the 20 and 50 notes) being terribly old and not taken out of circulation, as a possible cause of disease spread.
https://news.mb.com.ph/2020/03/12/dirty-money/
Im more concerned with the dirty money that I received as change during my Saturday and Sunday outings. I shopped a bit, had lunch, merienda, dinner at different shops, and each time the change I was given came in the form of diseased, filthy, germ-ridden bills, in 50s and mostly 20s. There were so many 20s when it could have been a few 100s! The overflow of small change was not a coincidence, it could only have been because the storeowners had been given a ton of 20s by their bank to dispose of.
Are the banks in general, and Bangko Sentral in particular, aware that dirty paper money can be a carrier of the dreaded CoVid-19? In the US, bills from China are being quarantined for 7 to 10 days instead of the usual 5 to 7 as a precaution against the spread of the virus. Lets hope that President Duterte, whose presidential security (inner circle) are now trying to shield him from the virus with a no touch policy, wont need to touch the small change in his wallet (or Kittys).
John Clayton
03-13-20, 18:07
...Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into...Oh, dude. You're hurting me! Nothin' good about being septuagenarianism. Don't do it! I once imagined being this old, but I never imagined I would have to pay for pussy -- that's the worst (especially to fuck a fat woman). Yes, my dick is now a weak marshmellow and I am very sad about it. I don't know what is worse to me, deteriorating vision or a marshmellow dick. I realized fairly early on that I lucked out with superb vision: shooting, hunting, climbing, sailing, flying. I could always read the smallest letters on the vision charts, and everyone remarked on it. It was something I had, that I was given, that I was proud of. Now it's gone to shit. I didn't realize that I got pretty much the same luck with my dick until in my thirties or forties when I heard my peers complain about theirs. Alas, now, my steadfast, reliable dick has turned into a. Marshmellow (sigh). Problem is, your tissues just disintegrate with age. Not really anything you can do about it. I felt pretty good at 60.71, not so much.
(Actually, maybe the most distressing failure is my skin. If I get within sight of a sharp rock or a rusty nail, I start bleeding!
Meanwhile, a bunch of septuagenarian mongers from white man land are deeply concerned they won't be able to travel to Flipsville to find a place to stick their shriveled, marshmallow cocks into. I'm glad the mongers have their priorities right.Since when has mongering been an honorable pastime? Fat, old, white guys have been travelling to fuck debt bonded sex slaves for years before any virus arrived.
Cheers. G.
A different take on disease. An opinion article in today's Manila Bulletin, regarding the cash (the 20 and 50 notes) .I'm surprised you bothered to post this. Anything could be carrying any number of germs so this story is just a beat up.
The research so far I snot conclusive as to the length of time CoVID19 might last on a surface. Apparently stainless steal is at the higher end. Porous surfaces such as paper money, is at the lower end. So really coins could be more of an issue but it's all relative. How about ashing hands regularly which deals with all the surfaces we touch like door handles, taps, railings.
Then I have to think about DFK my local filipina and chinese girls. Lack of money is a bigger issue for me.
WestCoast1
03-14-20, 02:07
I'm surprised you bothered to post this.Because its food for thought. The opinion wasn't mine, it is the author's. I should have posted 'FYI' at the top. Its possible others might find it interesting or useful. Anything that passes from one person to others regularly might be of interest these days.
The research so far I snot conclusive as to the length of time CoVID19 might last on a surface. Apparently stainless steal is at the higher end. Porous surfaces such as paper money, is at the lower end. So really coins could be more of an issue but it's all relative. How about ashing hands regularly which deals with all the surfaces we touch like door handles, taps, railings.All good info. Should others be surprised you bothered to post it?
All good info. Should others be surprised you bothered to post it?Fair call. It's up to them. I just find the standard of opinion in MB generally is so un-informed I stopped reading them.
Chocha Monger
03-14-20, 14:05
Oh, dude. You're hurting me! Nothin' good about being septuagenarianism. Don't do it! I once imagined being this old, but I never imagined I would have to pay for pussy -- that's the worst (especially to fuck a fat woman). Yes, my dick is now a weak marshmellow and I am very sad about it. I don't know what is worse to me, deteriorating vision or a marshmellow dick. I realized fairly early on that I lucked out with superb vision: shooting, hunting, climbing, sailing, flying. I could always read the smallest letters on the vision charts, and everyone remarked on it. It was something I had, that I was given, that I was proud of. Now it's gone to shit. I didn't realize that I got pretty much the same luck with my dick until in my thirties or forties when I heard my peers complain about theirs. Alas, now, my steadfast, reliable dick has turned into a. Marshmellow (sigh). Problem is, your tissues just disintegrate with age. Not really anything you can do about it. I felt pretty good at 60.71, not so much.
(Actually, maybe the most distressing failure is my skin. If I get within sight of a sharp rock or a rusty nail, I start bleeding!There are many septuagenarians with marshmallow dicks chasing young Pinays at great expense to their meager pensions. They cannot really fuck the girls because of the marshmallow dick factor. One may wonder why they bother wasting their limited funds at all. However, septuagenarians do enjoy having their soft marshmallow dicks sucked by innocent-looking young Pinays. Luckily, Pinays think sucking on a withered vinegar-flavored marshmallow for a few thousand peso is easy money.
Having to fly halfway around the world to pay for pussy is nothing to brag about but septuagenarians have no choice in the matter. The young women at home would never let them near their pussies for anything less than a million dollars and would want the deed over with as quickly as possible.
Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?
TurdyCurdyOne
03-15-20, 08:52
There are many septuagenarians with marshmallow dicks chasing young Pinays at great expense to their meager pensions. They cannot really fuck the girls because of the marshmallow dick factor. One may wonder why they bother wasting their limited funds at all. However, septuagenarians do enjoy having their soft marshmallow dicks sucked by innocent-looking young Pinays. Luckily, Pinays think sucking on a withered vinegar-flavored marshmallow for a few thousand peso is easy money.
Having to fly halfway around the world to pay for pussy is nothing to brag about but septuagenarians have no choice in the matter. The young women at home would never let them near their pussies for anything less than a million dollars and would want the deed over with as quickly as possible.As to all your veiled insults for us old guys, I for one can honestly tell you my banana still works perfectly well, although a little slower than it used to and not as often and I have no complaints from my 24 yr old gwapa, tall and sexy body pinay g / f. The only complaints I see are the other foreigners p*ssed off to see an old guy like me with a woman they have trouble getting without paying a lot. And she is helping with my rent and food bills for a job I helped her find (not soliciting) I deflowered her and now she willingly takes instruction during our sessions quite well since I taught her most everything she knows. It's like Burger King. I get to have it my way.
Engine Driver
03-15-20, 10:08
Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?Mongers are more hesitant to meet hookers now. The Wuhan virus is particularly lethal to mongers in the 70-90 age bracket, so it is they who are staying away. I should point out the majority of mongers on the Phils board fall within that age group and they have reluctantly accepted that they might have to wait a year before getting their vinegar flavored marshmallow cocks sucked again by innocent looking Pinays. In the meantime, fetching their own beers at 10.00 am and fapping to Trike Patrol might have to suffice. In any case, their pension funds have taken a heavy battering and the returns will be so poor that they won't be in a position to even buy a heavily discounted coach class fare.
On the other hand Messrs Trainwreck and Reach around have no such problems. The chicks still prefer the studs, Wuhan virus or no Wuhan virus.
First of all my apologies if this is in the wrong section but I think this is badly needed, as there are most likely a lot of other mongers like me who intend to travel with current bookings but are uncertain of where they stand.
I would like us to be able to share official confirmed information, not speculation or rumour or something you over heard at a bar.
This morning a few hours ago the UK Philippines embassy confirmed a ban on traveler's from the UK and Ireland. Now that information does not seem to be there anymore. It says a ban does not cover inbound flights from the UK and Ireland, there does however seem to be domestic travel restrictions around Manila as well as to and from the airport.
I'm due to travel from Ireland on the 14th April. Does anyone have any input, again from official sources.
https://londonpe.dfa.gov.ph/
Mr Enternational
03-15-20, 16:40
Her: Babe, Pasay City is declared under the state of calamity.
Her: Malls will be closed because of the lock down.
Mr Enternational
03-15-20, 16:44
I'm due to travel from Ireland on the 14th April. Does anyone have any input, again from official sources.Dude. Official sources do not know what is going to happen tomorrow, and you want to know about April 14? This thing will have to get under control before anything. My guess is that you will be staying in Ireland.
WestCoast1
03-15-20, 16:51
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?A solid yes. Newb girls who were dying to meet a few days prior to my arrival in their province were fairly candid: "Sorry. Corona. After the lockdown is over maybe we meet". Wait, sweetie, I'm here now, and there is no lockdown here. "Yes but Manila" and "too many die from it maybe you have" and "Not going out from our home now". Traveled after that to another province, several hours on the bus, and when I got logged into the Internet in the second province, the first province declared calamity. Two of my regulars in the new province, knowing for weeks that I was coming, were suddenly unwilling to even leave their homes out of fear. "You stay till middle April I come then". Great! And: "My mother knows I go to you she say no". Oh, I remember, its because I was an asshole when I took your brother's money playing cards last time, right? "Yes but its because corona". Great! I'm an asshole PLUS I'm not getting laid.
Thanks Corona!
TurdyCurdyOne
03-16-20, 12:46
Is anyone noticing any impact of virus fears on mongering?
Are girls more hesitant to meet now? Have they changed any behaviours? Less likely to kiss?
I am in Moalboal and have had a couple girls refuse to come from Cebu citing virus fears, mostly around not being allowed back into the city in case a lock down is declared when they are out but one was afraid to travel on public transportation. (Of course that could just be excuses that they don't want to come right out and say no directly.).
Anyone else seeing changed behaviours?The world has gone mad. They are treating this like the bubonic plague or similar. It's the FLU. Might be a tad more deadly if your old, but it's still the flu. Yeah the pinay concerns are real. Cebu is closed to people from Dumaguete. It's total be. S. And the motivations of these pols are suspect, never mind the mindless hysteria of many of the Filipinos.
Mr Enternational
03-16-20, 16:00
Enhanced Community Quarantine for Luzon.
1. By virtue of an Executive Order of the Office of the President we will have a Luzon-wide community quarantine.
2. We will have a curfew of 8 pm to 5 am for non-essential personnel on the streets. Exempted are health care workers, peace and order officers, workers from the night shift of the Processing zones with valid ID's, and LGU officers.
3. Malls are ordered closed for the duration of the executive order.
4. Restaurants can only accept take-home and delivery services. Dine in is strictly prohibited.
5. Banks, groceries, supermarkets, pharmacies, pawn shops, hardwares, and wet markets will remain open.
6. Fiestas, karakols, parades, and other related public assemblies are cancelled.
7. Common religious congregations are strongly discouraged.
8. Gaming parlours, computer gaming shops, wellness Centers, cockpits arenas, will be closed.
9. Students on OJT are no longer required to report.
10. Needless loitering in the streets at any time of the day will be denied.
11. Public playgrounds, basketball courts, beaches, and public parks will be closed.
12. Public utility offices, Bayad centers, and related financial services will remain open.
13. 'Tianges', open dry good markets, side walk vending, will be closed.
14. This will become effective March 17, at 12:01 am.
Enhanced Community Quarantine for Luzon.
1. By virtue of an Executive Order of the Office of the President we will have a Luzon-wide community quarantine.
2. We will have a curfew of 8 pm to 5 am for non-essential personnel on the streets. Exempted are health care workers, peace and order officers, workers from the night shift of the Processing zones with valid ID's, and LGU officers..Thanks for that important post.
That's the kind of info we need, not complaints from a Monger that a girls mother will not let her daughter out to be fucked by a potentially virus positive person, who insists she takes the risk for P1000. Some of the Mongers are showing less sense than the girls themselves. Where I come from, we call those guys "dickheads" , that is, the penis head is making the decisions.
Isolation is the way. Be kind to your penis, LOL.
Engine Driver
03-16-20, 20:54
The world has gone mad. They are treating this like the bubonic plague or similar. It's the FLU. Might be a tad more deadly if your old, but it's still the flu. Yeah the pinay concerns are real. Cebu is closed to people from Dumaguete. It's total be. S. And the motivations of these pols are suspect, never mind the mindless hysteria of many of the Filipinos.Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.
Engine Driver
03-16-20, 22:02
This might quite possibly be the best advice you receive on the Wuhan virus.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-LZzvS2nZqY
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.That's going to be likely. I can't even bring myself to visit my local AMP here in Brisbane. The idea of snogging a beautiful Taiwanese student that's been kissing a few other mongers already today is not exciting.
Her: Babe, Pasay City is declared under the state of calamity.
Her: Malls will be closed because of the lock down.I just heard from two girls who work at a manila mall. At least they did work there. Now NO work, no money, and little food. They live paycheck to paycheck. For many the cure is worse than the disease. Anybody know how long the malls will be closed?
Chocha Monger
03-17-20, 03:06
Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.It will be hard for mongers to stow their pricks for the long months ahead. However, there is not much choice in the matter. Worried Filipino families have locked away the prized pussies from foreign mongers. No point in risking the family's main breadwinner over 1,000 pesos. In AD 2020, mongers will just have to relive the fall of man from Pinay Pussy Heaven and endure the cold reality of life in the West.
Mongers will have more to weep about in the coming months. The stock market crash dealt a vicious blow to many pension funds. Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.
......................Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. So true, so true.
I suggest our ISG banjoist friend, stay put in America, and stroke the strokes there.
Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.I think resident mongers will be more likely to drown in pussy after the local curfews are lifted and cash strapped girls are on the prowl while jet setting Johns are still unable to arrive.
Again, refer to how the '97 Asian Financial Crisis played out. It's hard to believe there was a better time to be a male with a heartbeat in Asia.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. No bleeding heart comments about how uncaring I am. You know you are thinking the same thing. 😀.
Limp Richards here have nothing to do but talk about marshmallow dicks. Why? They live a pathetic pussy less life. Meanwhile stiffies will find a way to find it and to insert in some young babe.
John Clayton
03-17-20, 05:49
... suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some...Now I'm suspicious of you -- how do you know they are vinegar flavored. ?
Now I'm suspicious of you -- how do you know they are vinegar flavored. ?Either by flavoring his own long one and? Or by experiencing one or a few.
Engine Driver
03-17-20, 07:03
Mongers will have more to weep about in the coming months. The stock market crash dealt a vicious blow to many pension funds. Plans to retire to Dumaguete and have innocent looking Pinays suck on vinegar flavored marshmallows will have to wait another decade for some. Those living in Flipsville with substandard medical infrastructure are at great risk of succumbing to Wuhan virus should they cop a dose.Irrespective of the stock market's recent poor performance, a retired Assistant Professors' pension from a two-year, liberal arts community college in some backwater was hardly going to be sufficient to retire on in Dumaguete. Those innocent looking, doe-eyed LBFMs from that coastal town in Negros are actually more wily than you might think. Generations of LBFMs (great grandmother, grandmother, mother) have tutored them well on how to extract the most from their fat, white victims. They know that generations of love-struck fatties, seeking college going sweeties, will pay big money to insert their Viagra infused, two-inch marshmallow cocks into their golden teen pussies. It's a closed market. Don't even think about shorting those sweet LBFMs on their fuck fees. There's nowhere to run from their machete wielding uncles and pimps. It's a closed town. Hahaha.
Retired Assistant Professors in Dumaguete might have to swallow their pride and supplement their meagre incomes somehow, while in country on their SRRVs. Now what skill do they bring? The site of an overweight, pony tailed, banjo playing monger, standing in front of City Mall, busking for a few peso would be a site to see. Comedy gold.
WestCoast1
03-17-20, 10:30
Either by flavoring his own long one and? Or by experiencing one or a few.Variety IS the spice of life. Smile, try something new!
I just heard from two girls who work at a manila mall. At least they did work there. Now NO work, no money, and little food. They live paycheck to paycheck. ....The sad part is these little pinays have no bank account and no clue how to save money.
Again, refer to how the '97 Asian Financial Crisis played out. It's hard to believe there was a better time to be a male with a heartbeat in Asia.
Enjoy. G.Thats got me all excited. The moment this dies down I am heading straight back to the Phils.
G, I will have to see it to believe it (that it can get easier than it currently is to get pussy in the Phils!
The sad part is these little pinays have no bank account and no clue how to save money.And anything they do manage to keep is soon gone to parasitic boyfriends or family members.
There will be real starvation from the lock down. I don't think anyone will be crying wolf. Let's not be so cynical.
G, I will have to see it to believe it (that it can get easier than it currently is to get pussy in the Phils!Imagine all those girls that are currently just gagging to be around our rugged good looks, wit and charm after 3 to 6 months of no income. The stunners, who had the cash to go home, are now broke having supported failed sarisari stores and chicken farms with no income. Now add all the unemployed casual sales clerks who normally would not be on the game but are now looking for a supportive 'boyfriend'.
The only thing missing this time will be the collapsing currency that reduced costs to an absolute pittance in USD terms.
Enjoy. G.
There will be real starvation from the lock down. I don't think anyone will be crying wolf. Let's not be so cynical.Yes and no. While those that live in the city will have real bills to pay, those that can return to the province can live on next to nothing tending some chickens and watching the world go by for days on end. It will be the boy friends and uncles who will have the shock of reduced cash flow. Not the girls.
Yes, there will be real cases of hardships and request for assistance but don't think for a minute that some girls will not make the best of a bad situation and be hitting the phones for Western Union transfers to remedy imaginary problems.
Enjoy. G.
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Yes, there will be real cases of hardships and request for assistance but don't think for a minute that some girls will not make the best of a bad situation and be hitting the phones for Western Union transfers to remedy imaginary problems.
Enjoy. G.I only have two regulars that I trust, and care about enough, to send any assistance to. The others can make due however they can through this and if that means I will need some new regulars then they are not that hard to find.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-20-20, 11:34
Isolation is the best way to contain this pandemic. There simply aren't enough ICU beds in the world to cope with the expected cases of elderly people who will need treatment. We can't afford to have the aged getting sick as most health systems in the world will meltdown, as it has in Italy. If ICU beds aren't available, how do you treat the 20 year old car accident victim? Doctors will have to prioritise.
This might be just "the flu" for those under 50, but the over 70 aged group is particularly affected. Apparently it's like drowning in air, and the damage to the lungs is long lasting. We don't want the young passing it to the old, hence the restriction in social contact. The two month lockdown in China appears to have worked.
The hysteria is not just confined to Filipinos. I live in rich white man land and the behaviour of the people here is also irrational. Some people have filled their entire double garage, floor to ceiling, with toilet paper, pasta, rice and hand sanitiser. People are pulling out knives in supermarkets at the toilet paper aisles.
Mongers will just have to pack away their dicks for the next six months and take up a more useful hobby. One that perhaps exercises their brains a bit more. You'the be surprised how easy it is to forget about chasing Pinay pussy and get along with normal life.What did we do for all the past flu epidemics? We did not shut down the world. The difference here is that this virus is a more contagious but the death rate is not much higher. An Italian study showed that of all the Italians that died 99.2% had serious concomittant diseases-diabetes, etc. Only. 8 percent were healthy individuals. That's across all ages. Let the old people die, it's their time, same as with all the past flu epidemics for which we did not go to all these crazy remedies than are worse than the disease itself. They will have a vaccine soon and then transmission will be much less likely. I could be wrong but that's the way I see it.
....... Let the old people die, it's their time, same as with all the past flu epidemics for which we did not go to all these crazy remedies than are worse than the disease itself. They will have a vaccine soon and then transmission will be much less likely. I could be wrong but that's the way I see it.I have heard the virus refereed to as Boomer Remover.
Engine Driver
03-21-20, 08:01
What did we do for all the past flu epidemics? We did not shut down the world. What's different this time from all other pandemics in the past is the incredible, international mobility of the Chinese population. Viruses cannot be contained when such a large group of people is absolutely intent on getting on a plane. China is the world's factory and manufactures just about everything the world needs. Over the past 15-20 years, entrepreneurial Chinese have become incredibly wealthy, making stuff or servicing the needs of the middle class. There are thousands of millionaires and millions of middle class people in China who are addicted to overseas travel.
1. Tourists. Middle class Chinese love international travel. If you've ever been to the world's major tourist traps, there is one nationality group that will stand out. It doesn't matter whether its Paris, Rome or Fez, Morocco.
2. Belt and Road Policy. The Chinese Communist Party underwrites just about every major infrastructure project in developing countries. Obviously, the poor governments in African countries or in the Pacific are never going to be able to pay off those soft loans, so are happy to give up their sovereignty. These projects requires thousands of Chinese nationals (engineers, project managers and construction workers) to develop and deliver. They are sent to all parts of the globe.
3. International Students. There are about 2 million Chinese students studying outside of China in various rich, white man countries. They and their parents are always flying around.
4. In this particular case, thousands of Chinese, who are residents in other countries, went back to China to celebrate Lunar New Year. Hence they took the virus back to various rich white man countries after their family visit.
There are over 100,000 Chinese who are permanent residents in Italy. Easy to work out how the virus got there.
What's different this time from all other pandemics in the past is the incredible, international mobility of the Chinese population. Don't forget the roll of easy information. The 1918 Flu Epidemic fell in the middle of WWI so both the Axis and Allies actively suppressed information about its effect lest the enemy know how much of their manpower was being consumed. Fun Fact: it was called the 'Spanish' Flu as only neutral Spain was reporting its effects.
Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.
Soapy Smith
03-22-20, 11:47
Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.
For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.Its not TP that block sewers its condoms, sanitary pads, nappies, fat and all the other non biodegradable stuff people flush down the toilet or sinks. The last think that I am worried about is running out of toilet paper. If I'm desperate I will use the hand sprayer from my garden hose that has a nice trigger action and good spray.
Goodluck finding any of those in stock anywhere. I ordered a handheld bidet last week. I had been putting it off for a while, when I went to actually make the order turns out lots of people had the same idea. Not a single moderately priced bidet was availlable. I ordered anyways, my ass should be much cleaner next week when it arrives.
For those in the states Amazon has a nifty bidet (brand name Astor) for about $25. All fittings are easily installed finger tight. Only required tool is a screwdriver to temporarily remove and then replace the toilet seat after the bidet is installed. No fancy Japanese heated water feature with this model, but eliminates skid marks in the undies and reduces the strain on septic systems and municipal sewer systems for digesting TP. Prime shipping puts it at your door in two days. Then no more need for panic-buying TP.
Just want to update you fellas about the situation in Manila.
Unfortunately I am stuck here for a month. I am staying in Shangri-la Fort BGC. It's one of the few reputable hotels that are still operating at this time. There's no lounge, pool, gym no anything! Dining is in room only. I wanted to get a lady from Smooci but hotels won't let any guest who aren't registered in. Booked a nearby AirBnB so my sorry arse can have some sexy time. It's a sad time to be deployed here. I was looking forward to my month long dining on Filipinas.
WestCoast1
03-23-20, 02:24
There's no lounge, pool, gym no anything! Dining is in room only. I wanted to get a lady from Smooci but hotels won't let any guest who aren't registered in. Many of us in the same boat during the lockdowns of various cities, from NCR to the province. "Fall in line sir".
Booked a nearby AirBnB so my sorry arse can have some sexy time. Booked an airbnb condo recently in the province. All good. The day before checkin I got a msg from the host: "Sorry to inform sir that starting today the Mgmt of the Residence has suspended all transient entry to the condo during the COVID Signal. I have cancelled your reservation". I see, understood. I reserved an airbnb elsewhere nearby. Few days later I noticed the same original Residence still had the exact same units available thru airbnb, so I contacted a different Host there and asked if the unit was available during lockdown. "No sorry to inform its not". Check. An hour later I received a msg from that same host: "Are you Filipino sir? If so, you can able to check in if you have Medical Certificate for the Mgmt". I see. But for us (haha) Filipino only? "Yes sir. You can get Certificate from any doctor and bring me". Must say, that's pretty sh*tty.
It's a sad time to be deployed here. I was looking forward to my month long dining on Filipinas.Its bad especially for the 2-week warrior or vacationer. We are all hoping this turn out to be a month-long (or less) hiccup.
Mr Enternational
03-23-20, 07:05
Its bad especially for the 2-week warrior or vacationer. We are all hoping this turn out to be a month-long (or less) hiccup.Damn sure does not look like it. The numbers are increasing by the minute.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
WestCoast1
03-23-20, 08:22
Damn sure does not look like it. The numbers are increasing by the minute.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/Thanks posting that. Have been watching that site for a few days. The site updates the numbers twice daily. Its ugly for a number of countries, USA, Italy, Korea. So much smaller for Phils, but Phils is just simply behind the others, give it a week or two.
Pinaypounder
03-23-20, 20:51
I think the virus is a sham and this shutdown will cause more deaths and destruction than this flu. But Filipinos are panicked and pussies are being packed up tight and shipped home.
So of course the PER index is dropping (Pussy Earned Revenue) and large shortfalls will affect both short and long term pricing. Its a buyers market now and for the foreeeable future.
At least here in Canada our magnificent moron is handing out checks as fast as that fucktard can write them.
Funny thing is the SHEEPLE don't understand it will all need to be repaid and our dollar has dropped against the PESO 15%.
Joking aside there will be some real issues there for the next while, good luck!
PP.
AussieGaigin
03-24-20, 00:39
I think the virus is a sham and this shutdown will cause more deaths and destruction than this flu. But Filipinos are panicked and pussies are being packed up tight and shipped home.
So of course the PER index is dropping (Pussy Earned Revenue) and large shortfalls will affect both short and long term pricing. Its a buyers market now and for the foreeeable future.
PP.If available product is reducing, and competition is reducing, this would normally result in price increases.
Will this be matched by a lack of demand from punters? Will punters have the same concerns for their health and well-being as the girls do, or will they be primarily deterred by price?
GoodEnough
03-24-20, 01:12
Thanks posting that. Have been watching that site for a few days. The site updates the numbers twice daily. Its ugly for a number of countries, USA, Italy, Korea. So much smaller for Phils, but Phils is just simply behind the others, give it a week or two.Granted the Philippines has far more limited public health resources than Korea, Singapore and the US. However, it jumped all over this much more quickly than did the US with strict quarantine measures and business shut downs. It's my hope that the curve here will start to flatten over the next couple of weeks, proving that the measures are have a positive effect. I'm on home quarantine and not permitted to go out for any reason other than medically related. Virtually all of my friends who are 60+ (virtually all of them) are in the same situation.
GE.
In the worst flu season in recent years (not 1918) about 80,000 Americans died.
The best (data) modeler in the world, in the UK, forecast 1.1-2.2 million dead in the USA, depending on measures taken. This is on top of all the other diseases that don't go away just because we have a new virus, and people who could have easily survived whatever they have but for the overwhelmed health care system.
Half of the people on ventilators are younger folks. Even if they don't die there could be scars for life, literally, in their lungs. There are lots of examples of young people dying within days, I think because they were in close contact with a spreader. A big dose means you get a lot sicker.
The fact that so many people on here (and everywhere) dismiss the fears as hoaxes or compare it to the flu means this thing will get out of control, everywhere. I'll bet with anyone that the curve will not be brought down until it's too late.
Granted the Philippines has far more limited public health resources than Korea, Singapore and the US. However, it jumped all over this much more quickly than did the US with strict quarantine measures and business shut downs. It's my hope that the curve here will start to flatten over the next couple of weeks, proving that the measures are have a positive effect. I'm on home quarantine and not permitted to go out for any reason other than medically related. Virtually all of my friends who are 60+ (virtually all of them) are in the same situation.
GE.
Mr Enternational
03-24-20, 21:54
Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan.
There are four more doctors who are considered as Person Under Investigation. They've been quarantined.
Yes. That's why my sister's clinic in front of our house was closed after the outbreak.
My sister's patients were seen in the hospital. Not in her clinic.
But she minimized her clinic hours. There's a couple who are both anesthesiologist had CoViD. The husband died already. His wife is still fighting for her life. They only got one kid who has autism. 😢128546;128546;.
I pray that this will be over soon.
In the worst flu season in recent years (not 1918) about 80,000 Americans died.
The best (data) modeler in the world, in the UK, forecast 1.1-2.2 million dead in the USA, depending on measures taken. This is on top of all the other diseases that don't go away just because we have a new virus, and people who could have easily survived whatever they have but for the overwhelmed health care system.
Half of the people on ventilators are younger folks. Even if they don't die there could be scars for life, literally, in their lungs. There are lots of examples of young people dying within days, I think because they were in close contact with a spreader. A big dose means you get a lot sicker.
The fact that so many people on here (and everywhere) dismiss the fears as hoaxes or compare it to the flu means this thing will get out of control, everywhere. I'll bet with anyone that the curve will not be brought down until it's too late.I agree with what you say, the problem is that it is very widespread now. I doubt even with 6 months of isolation it will not flare up again. My view is that there should be 6 weeks intense preparation, look for best treatment then support at risk people to stay isolated and allow everyone else get back to normal. Yes there will be casualties but given many people don't show symptoms the risk of flareups after isolation is too great. Allow it to burn out for 12 months then bring out the at risk.
Pinaypounder
03-25-20, 16:54
Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan.
There are four more doctors who are considered as Person Under Investigation. They've been quarantined.
Yes. That's why my sister's clinic in front of our house was closed after the outbreak.
My sister's patients were seen in the hospital. Not in her clinic.
But she minimized her clinic hours. There's a couple who are both anesthesiologist had CoViD. The husband died already. His wife is still fighting for her life. They only got one kid who has autism. 😢128546;128546;.
I pray that this will be over soon.I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.
Soapy Smith
03-25-20, 17:14
Just some shit from my girlfriend:
One of our relatives in my dad's side passed away from CoViD. He's a famous cardiologist in the Philippine Heart Center. 😢128546;128546;.
There are two doctors who died in that same hospital in Manila.
They said that it was from a patient who wasn't honest enough to tell that he got travel history in Japan. Perhaps these news accounts are related to her message:
https://www.onenews.ph/four-doctors-die-some-hospitals-may-temporarily-close-as-covid-19-cases-rise-to-462
https://www.gmanetwork.com/entertainment/celebritylife/news/60869/doctor-diesfromcovid-19-colleague-shares-doctors-dying-wish-for-his-son/story
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/two-pinoy-doctors-succumb-covid-19/
Soapy Smith
03-25-20, 17:29
I understand the serious challenges that frontline medical professionals are facing, especially when they're running short of protective equipment. In some of these stories you also have to wonder about sanitation and patient protocol practices. This is obviously a very contagious virus. Comparisons to the common flu are badly misplaced. We in the states would be better off if we could silence the loudmouth-in-chief and let the real experts tell us what is going on. I fear that state governors are being set up as the bad guys.
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/medical-city-quarantines-144-doctors-medical-staff-exposed-covid-19-patients/
Perhaps these news accounts are related to her message:
https://www.onenews.ph/four-doctors-die-some-hospitals-may-temporarily-close-as-covid-19-cases-rise-to-462
https://www.gmanetwork.com/entertainment/celebritylife/news/60869/doctor-diesfromcovid-19-colleague-shares-doctors-dying-wish-for-his-son/story
https://filipinotimes.net/news/2020/03/22/two-pinoy-doctors-succumb-covid-19/That is one smart Filipina who can make up such a detailed story. AND fool the press into publishing it!
AussieGaigin
03-25-20, 22:41
I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.
Wicked Roger
03-25-20, 23:13
I find it challenging to believe that doctors would die from this but it makes a hell of a story for the Filipinos who are the king of Drama and Fear Mongering. Then the added comment that the fact he was neglected to tell them he / she had visited Japan, ? It a hospital, you think they might do a couple of tests and if someone is contagious they would protect themselves ESPECIALLY with this deadly disease.
Not likely. So AR 3 Doctors have died in the Philippines but no where else in the world so far?
Stop spreading stupid shit.
PP.Not stupid shit just stupid ignorant people who don't read the news and are badly misinformed. These are links that AussieGaigin refers to in his FR.
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2020-02-07/doctor-who-warned-of-coronavirus-dies-in-china/11941948
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/06/world/asia/chinese-doctor-Li-Wenliang-coronavirus.html
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-china-51403795
So you don't read any stuff from eminent news sites. Fox. OAN, Breibart etc clearly feeds the masses with garbage that you sadly believe PP.
Facts are facts and I suggest you read the links then tone it down because it reminds of the phrase that goes 'the more you open your mouth the more stupid you show you are' LOL.
I would not wish this virus and anyone especially in third world countries where testing and recovery is a lottery or just for the rich (and I include USA on that list).
It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.Yes true, and there have been several doctors who have been infected died from coronavirus, especially in Italy and Spain! Also, it's a big concern here in the United States where we have major concerns about a lack of personal protective equipment to protect medical providers from the disease. I tell you man. You just have to wonder about some people sometimes and WTF is going on in their heads, and where they get their information from. SMDH!
It has been mentioned in media here recently that one of the doctors in China who were involved in the discovery of the virus, had died from it.Only in Italy, the number of doctors who have died is in the double digits.
Of course many, many more will die before this is over.
I keep reading about thousands of new ventilators being needed worldwide in addition to the thousands already in service, Does anyone with real knowledge know what percentage of patients who are placed on ventilators survive and leave the hospital cured? I have always thought being on a ventilator has extremely poor outcomes. I'm sure there is some difference depending on country but the few people I know of who went on a ventilator died in the hospital. My thinking is its a way to bill the insurance company and patients family for a life extending measure. I have a "Do Not Resuscitate" order so I don't think I would be put on one unless my healthcare appointee agreed.
Mr Enternational
03-26-20, 04:59
the few people I know of who went on a ventilator died in the hospital. My thinking is its a way to bill the insurance company and patients family for a life extending measure. I have a "Do Not Resuscitate" order so I don't think I would be put on one unless my healthcare appointee agreed.So you would rather die than have the insurance company billed? There is a difference between the doctor that is trying to save your life and the company that owns the hospital that makes all the pricing and shit. Just visit a military hospital and see how many people are on ventilators. There is not too much billing of insurance companies in those. The government is footing that bill themselves.
Steve Nash
03-26-20, 08:57
I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week.
Then the Coronavirus came strong on March and it was all over the news everyday and it panic her to the point that she didn't want to go out anymore (we used to go out almost everyday, specially in Cebu). So basically everytime I go out for running and grocery shopping by myself almost always I end up in a short hotel with my new dates, I'm only out for 3 hours, maximum 4 hours so that my GF won't get suspicious, that's enough time to do the deed. I've been able to get around 3-4 girls a week the last month. It also helps that the last month I was lay off temporary from my online fulltime job because of Coronavirus, so I had more time to chat girls on Cupid, Tinder, Facebook, Pinalove and Badoo.
So yeah Coronavirus help me in my case.
By the way, I agree most airbnb condos don't allow visitors anymore because of the virus, so your best option is to bring your girl to a short hotel, it cost only 300 php for 3 hours. At first I thought it was going to be hard to convince a girl to come to a short hotel, but is very easy. I just tell them that I'm staying with a friend on his parents house so I can not bring them there. They always believe me and they are ok going to a short hotel. I had 4 girls going on the first date to the short hotel, the rest will go on the second date, so if that's the case make sure the first date is a short one, just 1-2 hours for coffee, if she drinks and gets drunk more likely she will go on the first date. Just buy beer in 7 eleven drink in the park or plaza since there are not bars and nightlife anymore, you have to UP your daygame now, because of the lockdown and curfews everything is done during the day.
Engine Driver
03-26-20, 09:20
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week.
Can I ask why if you are in a serious relationship with a girlfriend in the Philippines, that you go and search for more pussy on the weekend in her backyard? I am assuming your girlfriend, with whom you are in a serious relationship with, obviously approves of what you are doing. Otherwise, the situation could turn bad rather quickly in the provinces.
Mr Enternational
03-26-20, 12:18
If you are leaving the country from NAIA, then it will be out of Terminal 1 for now.
Soapy Smith
03-26-20, 14:04
That is one smart Filipina who can make up such a detailed story. AND fool the press into publishing it!Yup. She got them hook, line, and sinker.
Interestingly, in the Rappler article the photo shows doctors wearing what appear to be surgical masks rather than N95's (except for the guy in the surgical gown). N95's are supposed to provide "at least 95% filtration efficiency against solid and liquid particles" (language is from 3M, a major producer of N95's). The principal barrier is synthetic material. Surgical masks, on the other hand, are made of woven fabric with a much lower filtration efficiency. They are intended to protect the wearer from large droplets and protect patients from large respiratory droplets from the wearer. Covid19 particles apparently are small enough to pass through woven fabric. Doctors and nurses are going nuts with guidance suggesting they use surgical masks, bandanas, or whatever do it yourself masks they can find.
https://www.rappler.com/nation/255981-philippine-doctors-die-fighting-front-lines-vs-coronavirus-march-26-2020#cxrecs_s.
https://www.bangkokpost.com/world/1887020/nine-doctors-die-from-coronavirus-in-philippines
https://www.republicworld.com/world-news/rest-of-the-world-news/philippines-nine-doctors-die-due-to-coronavirus.html
So you would rather die than have the insurance company billed? There is a difference between the doctor that is trying to save your life and the company that owns the hospital that makes all the pricing and shit. Just visit a military hospital and see how many people are on ventilators. There is not too much billing of insurance companies in those. The government is footing that bill themselves.My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.
My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.I thought I had heard 50/50 survival rate on ventilator with Covid19. Possibly the ratio may be different in different countries.
Pinaypounder
03-26-20, 21:16
Is it the learned opinion of the membership that the NEWS has never been manipulated?
I am confident that it is certainly being influenced. Filipinos are a scared and uneducated group, one of my staff, a 36 year old man with a MASTERS degree who lives in a small town is sincerely scared that he will die. He is reasonably healthy, could exercise and should stop smoking.
Some will die indeed, I am concerned that the world now thinks all can be saved and should be at any cost. I guess there will never ever be another war because someone might get hurt.
I am sincerely pissed and scared of the forthcoming economic fallout and unless you are on a good pension you should also be.
If you ain't living your dying!
PP.
Engine Driver
03-26-20, 23:07
My question was, what percentage of flu patients on ventilators survive. Thought maybe one of our ISG professional medical people did know. I have always thought pnumonia patients on ventilators were just death in waiting. Knowing how many ventilators are in Covid 19 service can be extrapolated to future death rates. Maybe the recovery rate is better than I have believed which would be good.It depends on what other medical issues the patient has. People in the 70+ age group already have a range of ongoing medical conditions. Getting the Wuhan China virus at that age is only going to accelerate death if they already have respiratory, renal, cardiac or vascular issues. The exercise on calculating the number of ICU beds and ventilators has already been done. It is woefully short for the number of expected Wuhan China virus cases in the next few weeks. That's why governments world wide are shit scared and are embarking on a lockdown campaign to protect the aged. There's a school of thought that maybe the elderly should just take a hit for the team (like the young did during the world wars) and we shouldn't be closing down businesses. But who's going to make that call?
Here is an article from The Lancet. Sometimes their political agenda is a little left leaning, but an esteemed journal nevertheless.
https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20) 30633-4/ fulltext.
I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know),.I am sure you are joking about serious relationship. Maybe as far as the girl is concerned in her mind. Hope you do not transfer the germs you pick up bonking these girls to the girl staying with you.
Nice Guy 99
03-27-20, 19:01
Suggest you set aside 30 minutes and watch this vid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4J0d59dd-qM&feature=share&fbclid=IwAR3E9_0icJYMfsv9-4H0s57vkLJAH_WsXjKMAKzB2l8M7a6z2L0aVJIi2AI.
I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
I don't want another girl cause she is fun and so little and she even dances in bikini bars if I feel bored. She did never work in an bar. But she could do easily when I leave her.
But a "relation" like you have with a girl from your own country I never see.
See does so much for me, but the most she does so she can have more money for her family and friends.
She does like she listens and understand my words, say yes yes.
But she only listens to her family and friends.
I have always to listen to her, always help her quick.
Always she finds excuses to beg for more money.
And she always find excuses why she did not keep to agreements with me.
Well if I could have easy sex with a 25 year 4 foot 7 inch 77 LBS (137 cm 39 kilo) as 63 year old man and she went out with me I would really kick her out.
But the slim small funny nice dancing girls are spoiled in bars.
And I think each years it gets worse.
If a pinay says she loves you she means she likes so much how you help her.
If a pinay says she wants to live with you she says that she likes to get power over your money.
And after a few years she needs to see hard results from her work for you. An own house.
Cause she forgets all the money you already gave. That is the past. Don't remember her on the past.
Wel after 2 years she had 1 year an affair with a pinoy.
I only found out cause the pinoy was a stupid and he did send me pics from her in bed with him.
Well my pinay needs my money (her mama angry) so she broke up with the pinoy.
But I don't believe that, cause sometimes her tits are still bruced.
Pinoy beat Pinay. The only way Pinay really listen.
But we are not allowed to beat a Pinay.
Maybe that is why we never have a good relation with a Pinay.
So best to look internet and buy a silicone pussy. Specially this corona time.
At least than we are not the slave of a Pinay cause they are boss over our dick.
They are so smart in playing your dick!
My dick loves her so much, makes him crazy.
My mind hates her and the idiot culture. My mind crazy.
But again that idiot culture makes that we can have as old man a young pussy.
Complete crazy they make you.
But it is no love, no relation.
I have to agree that coronavirus has make it harder for us mongers to score easily.
I can not speak for others cities but here where I am in the province it hasn't affect me much, if anything coronavirus help me score more on the last month than on January and February. Let me explain my circumstances so you can understand my situation.
I've been staying with my girlfriend since I arrived in the Philippines on January (we are in a serious relationship just so you know), so during January and February I was only able to meet girls on the weekends when my GF agree for me to go out with her best friend BF for drinks most weekends. Not that I wasn't successful with the dates I had, but at most I was only able to scored 1 or 2 girls a week..
Mr Enternational
03-28-20, 07:02
I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
I don't want another girl cause she is fun and so little and she even dances in bikini bars if I feel bored. She did never work in an bar. But she could do easily when I leave her.
But a "relation" like you have with a girl from your own country I never see.
See does so much for me, but the most she does so she can have more money for her family and friends.
She does like she listens and understand my words, say yes yes.
But she only listens to her family and friends.
I have always to listen to her, always help her quick.
Always she finds excuses to beg for more money.
And she always find excuses why she did not keep to agreements with me.
Well if I could have easy sex with a 25 year 4 foot 7 inch 77 LBS (137 cm 39 kilo) as 63 year old man and she went out with me I would really kick her out.
But the slim small funny nice dancing girls are spoiled in bars.
And I think each years it gets worse.
If a pinay says she loves you she means she likes so much how you help her.
If a pinay says she wants to live with you she says that she likes to get power over your money.
And after a few years she needs to see hard results from her work for you. An own house.
Cause she forgets all the money you already gave.What the fuck dude. Who the hell put you on that payment plan? You got a raw deal. That is like going to the car lot and paying 25% interest over 60 months. Practice these words: I only give money when I am there. What are you bankrolling this broad for? At least find a chick that keeps agreements if you are going to bankroll someone. There are 800 million 25 year old 4 foot 7 chicks to choose from. Yet you choose one that runs over you, disrespects you, and bleeds you like a rubber tree. Maybe it is a diehard romantic thing or a fetish thing, because this kind of shit I will never understand. Treat me like shit and take all my money too. Yeah baby, that is how I like it.
Chocha Monger
03-28-20, 15:14
What the fuck dude. Who the hell put you on that payment plan? You got a raw deal. That is like going to the car lot and paying 25% interest over 60 months. Practice these words: I only give money when I am there. What are you bankrolling this broad for? At least find a chick that keeps agreements if you are going to bankroll someone. There are 800 million 25 year old 4 foot 7 chicks to choose from. Yet you choose one that runs over you, disrespects you, and bleeds you like a rubber tree. Maybe it is a diehard romantic thing or a fetish thing, because this kind of shit I will never understand. Treat me like shit and take all my money too. Yeah baby, that is how I like it.Well, he is happy with the situation, bruised tits and all. He actually said that he does not want another girl, as this particular girl gives him all the disrespect and drama he could ever want. It sounds strange to you and me but it works for him. He says that she controls him through his dick and it drives him crazy. Apparently, he is getting good value for the cash she bleeds out of him. Obviously, it is some sort of masochistic fetish. However, both parties seem happy with the arrangement.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-29-20, 02:01
Don't forget the roll of easy information. The 1918 Flu Epidemic fell in the middle of WWI so both the Axis and Allies actively suppressed information about its effect lest the enemy know how much of their manpower was being consumed. Fun Fact: it was called the 'Spanish' Flu as only neutral Spain was reporting its effects.
Now, some one gets a runny nose in Italy and the world knows about it within minutes. We've seen the affect this has on people fleeing home and panic buying toilet paper.
Cheers. G.They are adding a new classification to the DSDM: Corona Delusional Psychosis and Cognitive Impairment.
Mr Enternational
03-29-20, 16:52
Well damn. As if corona wasn't enough.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/29/world/asia/lion-air-crash-philippines-coronavirus.html
I'd just stay my tongue and let the dummies get infected and die, only I can't because they'll infect lots of innocent girls and other people. The reason everyone desperately want ventilators is that 20% of infected go to the ICU. 80% are mild, which includes pneumonia. Yeah, something that normally is among worst-case scenarios is considered mild with Covid-19. Thus the need for crazy amounts of ventilators.
"Out of Spain's 40,000 confirmed coronavirus cases, 5,400 — nearly 14 percent — are medical professionals, the health ministry said on Tuesday."
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/24/world/europe/coronavirus-europe-covid-19.html
America told its people don't wear masks because of cultural / racial biases, and because they didn't have enough for health care workers. NYTimes is now changing its tunes.
Why Telling People They Don't Need Masks Backfired: To help manage the shortage, the authorities sent a message that made them untrustworthy.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/17/opinion/coronavirus-face-masks.html
More Americans Should Probably Wear Masks for Protection: Experts have started to question whether masks may offer at least some protection to healthy individuals and essential workers.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/27/health/us-coronavirus-face-masks.html
New C. D. C. Data shows that nearly 40 percent of patients sick enough to be hospitalized were age 20 to 54.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/18/health/coronavirus-young-people.html
I'm an ER doctor. Please take coronavirus seriously: Most people don't understand exponential growth. If they did, they'the be far more frightened.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/mar/20/er-doctor-coronavirus-exponential-growth
There are a lot more but if anyone reads all these and still don't care then they're a lost cause that will cost a lot of lives.
Steve Nash
03-31-20, 13:57
Can I ask why if you are in a serious relationship with a girlfriend in the Philippines, that you go and search for more pussy on the weekend in her backyard? I am assuming your girlfriend, with whom you are in a serious relationship with, obviously approves of what you are doing. Otherwise, the situation could turn bad rather quickly in the provinces.Of course she doesn't approve, that's why I'm hiding it from her. I know I look like an as at #$hole for doing this to her, but I'm far from that. Because I treat her very well, and other than this cheating I'm very honest to her, she knows everything about me, and I respect her alot even when sometimes girls flirt with me when I'm with her, I don't even acknowledge them. If she were to caught me, I will stop it right away, say sorry and take it like a man.
But yeah, I agree, I'm playing with fire right now. Well now in the province not too much since she doesn't know much people here where we are.
But in Cebu City. Yes, I risk getting caught since she had friends from her university years, and also her workmates, she lived in Cebu the last 6 years.
I know sooner or later I have to quit this thing before is too late. As a monger the last 10 years and having lots of girls the last 20+ years, I know soon I will end this and start a new chapter in my life. But in the meantime I need to enjoy this as much as I can so I can give a good farewell to this lifestyle.
Steve Nash
03-31-20, 14:26
I am sure you are joking about serious relationship. Maybe as far as the girl is concerned in her mind. Hope you do not transfer the germs you pick up bonking these girls to the girl staying with you.Yeah hard to believe, even me sometimes I don't believe. But I decided last December to give it a try and make it serious with her. Is still a work in progress but will see what happens.
About passing any diseases to her. I know is hard to know for sure if you will get a STD or not, specially since many times she raped me after coming home from having sex with other chicks, but I try my best to avoid getting germs, if one of the chicks look like a * or very experience specially with foreigners I will wear condom, I don't meet hookers or goldiggers, all of them have a career / job, well now some of them lost their jobs temporary because of the virus. I was suppose to get test it on April, but since everything is close now, I will do it late April or on May.
By the way guys a trick I learn here to get rid off the smell of sex in your body or clothes, is to spend 15 to 20 minutes around those barbecue street vendors before going home so the barbecue smoke will stay in your body. This really works guys, specially on your clothes, the barbecue smell is so strong that it will stay in your clothes for days!
Steve Nash
03-31-20, 14:57
I see now more than 3 years a pinay, about 5 times a year for 2 weeks. Regretfully (or lucky? My cathay pacific flight on March 17 was cancelled.
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But it is no love, no relation.Sorry to hear what's going on between you and your girl, but I always said, if you are looking for a serious relationship find someone closer to your age, even in the Philippines, 10 to 20 years difference is fine. My girl and I have only 10 years difference (late 20's her and me late 30's), in your case since you are in your 60's you should find someone in her 40's, I think 20 years of difference should be fine for you if you want to find a girl who sees a future with you and will RESPECT you enough that she won't cheat on you when you are away.
I know any guy can be fool, even the young ones, but the likelihood of happening is greater the older you are to her. So age difference is very important in a serious relationship.
I know the part that she won't cheat on you when you are away is hard to believe, but that's why you need to do your homework and find a really good filipina who is faithful and really looking for a serious relationship / soulmate, she has to be hardworker so she can depend on herself without asking for money.
You need to spend alot of time with her also, at least 1 month living together, seeing eachother everyday so you can find out if you are compatible, if she has any red flags even just one, run away!
You also need to give her great sex, the best sex of her life, so great that the only person she wants to have sex from now on is with you, because you open her pandora box on every orgasm you give her (LOL just a metaphor).
Also if she happens to be young and with no kids, you should be willing to give her a baby in the future otherwise she won't see you on her future and eventually she will find someone else who will give her a baby.
And stop sending money or else she will see you as an ATM machine and she won't respect you anymore, that's why is better to find someone who is hardworker and independent. If she is educated is a plus also, but between educated and hardworker / independent women, for me hardworker is more important, some educated women are lazy, but hardworker / independent women are never lazy, because they hate doing nothing, they take action, and they are always working to finance themselves, they hate depending from others.
In my case the reason I'm spending 6 months together with my GF is so I can decide if she is my forever, I need to make sure, so 6 months living together everyday should be enough time for me to decide. I'm always skeptical about serious relationship with someone in another country, but the chemistry we have is hard to let it pass by, so I'm taking the plunge and giving it a try. I even had to force her to quit her job so we can spend more time together on weekdays.
Yeah I know I'm cheating on her, but part of that is to test her to see if she let me have free time with my friends and to see if she is not a controlling / extremely jealous GF. So far everything looks good, she pass all the test. I'm almost halfway from the 6 months, so will see what happens.
Wicked Roger
03-31-20, 18:10
In my case the reason I'm spending 6 months together with my GF is so I can decide if she is my forever, I need to make sure, so 6 months living together everyday should be enough time for me to decide. I'm always skeptical about serious relationship with someone in another country, but the chemistry we have is hard to let it pass by, so I'm taking the plunge and giving it a try. I even had to force her to quit her job so we can spend more time together on weekdays.
Yeah I know I'm cheating on her, but part of that is to test her to see if she let me have free time with my friends and to see if she is not a controlling / extremely jealous GF. So far everything looks good, she pass all the test. I'm almost halfway from the 6 months, so will see what happens.She does not know cheat on her and shag multiple women whenever you can. So if / when she finds out you may find she thinks you are not compatible with her and then regret being forced to give up her job. Which IMHO is very controlling and sinister as if you can't live without her for one minute you are somewhat a crazy dude or one of those who believes in true love LOL.
P.S. I have been caught shagging my lady's sister and still forgiven but was touch and go LOL And had more then one set of bisexual sisters but which one should marry!
Mr Enternational
03-31-20, 19:36
Sorry to hear what's going on between you and your girl, but I always said, if you are looking for a serious relationship find someone closer to your age,Here the man is has already put a down payment on the brand new candy apple red Ferrari of his dreams, and you are trying to sell him on a used, gray, Dodge minivan instead. Sure we all know he is not able to handle the Ferrari, but it sounds like he is not the type that wants to be seen putzing around in a minivan.
I have been spending a lot of time, between stupid cat videos on YouTube, hunting on the dating sites.
There is a huge uptick in the number of girls asking for money right off the start, claiming that they are starving.
I know a lot of these claims will be bullshit but knowing how corrupt and uncaring some officials here are I am sure that some are not distributing relief supplies and keeping them for themselves or to sale.
The president really needs to clamp down on any official corruption in this area.
TurdyCurdyOne
03-31-20, 22:34
Of course she doesn't approve, that's why I'm hiding it from her. I know I look like an as at #$hole for doing this to her, but I'm far from that. Because I treat her very well, and other than this cheating I'm very honest to her, she knows everything about me, and I respect her alot even when sometimes girls flirt with me when I'm with her, I don't even acknowledge them. If she were to caught me, I will stop it right away, say sorry and take it like a man.
But yeah, I agree, I'm playing with fire right now. Well now in the province not too much since she doesn't know much people here where we are.
But in Cebu City. Yes, I risk getting caught since she had friends from her university years, and also her workmates, she lived in Cebu the last 6 years.
I know sooner or later I have to quit this thing before is too late. As a monger the last 10 years and having lots of girls the last 20+ years, I know soon I will end this and start a new chapter in my life. But in the meantime I need to enjoy this as much as I can so I can give a good farewell to this lifestyle.But for your own good (I do not know you and am not judging you), you need to get a grip. You're letting your little head do your thinking. Be careful, be exceedingly careful about Filipinas.
I have to remind myself everyday that my sweet, loving tall, gwapa g / f is much like a hookr. She is pretending to love me for the comforts I am providing in contrast to the cr*p place her family lives in and the cr*p food they eat and some other things like actually knowing how to UK. It's an illusion. I remind myself this because one day she will realize that she really doesn't love me as much as she thought and she really doesn't need me as much as she thought and then I will not be too hurt from waking up from a nice dream to reality. I may take her back to the USA with a good prenuptial that makes it more likely she will stay with me till I die, which might not be far off.
Engine Driver
04-04-20, 07:33
For those horny mongers who are struggling to get through the lockdown without Pinay pussy, here is the next best thing. A thesis on prostitution in Sabang from Uppsala University in Sweden.
https://uu.diva-portal.org/smash/get/diva2:1064095/FULLTEXT01.pdf
An interesting quote from this scholarly paper:
"Those who come to explore the underwater wonders discover an overdeveloped cluster of geriatric watering holes full of delu- sional men with decorative money-hungry twenty-somethings on their arms. Do these guys really scuba dive? Anyway, underwater the scenery is worth the sleazy company. " (Contemporary Nomad 2014).
WestCoast1
04-04-20, 10:18
Moved to this thread.
Last Friday, March 27: About 500 cases in Phils. Today April 3, just over 3,000 cases. A six-fold increase in a week. A 'bloom' in session. Things don't bode well for April 14.
If anything, the quarantines appear to be tightening, and I don't believe, as one who lives here, that there's an immediate end in sight. In Davao, where I live, individual movements become more restricted every few days, and we're now transitioning to an exit pass system that allows one person per household to leave the property to buy food and / or medicine. The only exceptions are for "essential" workers.I am in a different city, but am seeing the same things you mentioned. Right from the start of the lockdown here, many families (including 2 of my regulars) simply started spending 24 hours a day inside their homes. Only 1 person per household goes outside for food, medicine, or other necessity. Another person goes in / out for laundry (the machine is not inside the house for one family, or done by hand for the other fam). Both girls are adamant about not being around anyone else, and about keeping their restless brothers inside the (tiny, sweltering) home. They are as voluntarily locked down as can be (praise be, folk in my country certainly are not sheltering-in-place). My girls and their families are literally afraid.
Mayors and city lockdown rules (Mayoral proclamations) can change. A neighboring city had curfew hours of 9 pm-6 am and a handful of other rules (ie the closure of churches, malls, entertainment venues). Recently a second proclamation lengthened the curfew to 6 pm-6 am, and added another dozen or so minor restrictions (could not understand all of it in the local tongue).
Barangay can tighten the Mayor's restrictions even more, increasing the curfew hours in this or that Brgy, or instituting alcohol bans in the Brgy (but not the city). As these things are unannounced, it can lead to confusion, and don't expect the Brgy to post that information anywhere (at best, and this is shoddy, a brgy official will mention a new rule to a local, expecting it to chismosa its way around, but they are not notifying local hotels or condos. Or convenience stores or saris).
Condos. Immediately stopped accepting new guests of any kind. Or alternately, they briefly for a few days would accept new guests if the guest had a doctor's medical certificate (with CBC) and a Brgy Health Clearance (showing 14 days quarantine); then suddenly they reverted to: No new guests (and that refers to you, airbnb folk, even if you reserved it for 2 people and your local GF is with you, she might now be OUT). Think airbnb can save you in this instance? Good luck, it now takes airbnb 7-10-ish days to return any messages you leave for them ("Apology we are currently overwhelmed by Covid issues"; yes and mine is one of them). The good news is that airbnb has agreed to refund for all Covid issues.
Hotels: Same as condos above, then a number of them closed completely within a week. Many have gone to no new guests, or accepting guests only with a Brgy health clearance. If you are in a hotel, you don't dare leave for another one unless you have spoken directly to the front desk to see if your room is available and ask if you need any medical clearance.
With the bloom of the past week, with many of the new cases coming out of Manila, I can not foresee the NCR being let out of the lockdown. An extra 2 or 4 (or more) weeks, as needed. However provinces might lighten up (those with zero cases). I don't have a province-by-province breakdown of cases and deaths (only the site that ME left for us). Does anyone have such a site?
I don't have a province-by-province breakdown of cases and deaths (only the site that ME left for us). Does anyone have such a site?https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/
https://ncovtracker.doh.gov.ph/Thanks for posting this. Such a blatant and unattributed ripoff of the Johns Hopkins work.
It is interesting that the PH site has such a detailed info on every case.
I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.
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I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. With the ease of transmitting this and the fact that people can have it and be shedding the virus with no symptoms coupled with the lack of testing, it's no wonder that some places are reporting zero cases.
Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. Just look at the mortality rates. Most western countries are reporting 1 to 2% while many in Asia are reporting up to 9%. Perhaps Asians are particularly susceptable or have a more deadly form of Covod19. However, my money is that there are actually 4 times as many cases out there that have been diagnosed and reported.
G.
Wicked Roger
04-05-20, 23:21
Thanks for posting this. Such a blatant and unattributed ripoff of the Johns Hopkins work.
It is interesting that the PH site has such a detailed info on every case.
I heard that Cagara. Surigao province has zero cases.Burundi has no cases PP as it has no test kits so is it COVID 19 free? Once the Philippines does proper testing I expect the numbers to rise quickly and could be scary.
Pinaypounder
04-05-20, 23:31
Here the man is has already put a down payment on the brand new candy apple red Ferrari of his dreams, and you are trying to sell him on a used, gray, Dodge minivan instead. Sure we all know he is not able to handle the Ferrari, but it sounds like he is not the type that wants to be seen putzing around in a minivan.Do who you want just make sure that you have a proper prenup. Then roll them in and roll them out!
PP.
Pinaypounder
04-06-20, 01:13
Stuck here in Canada, can't get laid cause all the women think that they are all going to die. Now I can't even read about the lucky mongerers getting laid in warmer, non snowy parts. Back for the winter this year and I plan to fuck them all and I am curious as to how things will change.
Knowing the filipina mind as I do they will initially raise rates claiming danger and mongerers, stupid as they are will pay for awhile but then the supply will increase but I predict that the demand will take a long time to return. Asians are fearful.
One thing I know I won't ever overpay, that is the privilege of the lazy or stupid.
PP.
Big difference between zero cases and zero confirmed cases. With the ease of transmitting this and the fact that people can have it and be shedding the virus with no symptoms coupled with the lack of testing, it's no wonder that some places are reporting zero cases.With no testing the patient died from the flu, heart, or whatever. Statistics will show zero Covid deaths.
New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%. NOTE: I want to be one of those so I can catch the next plane leaving for SEA. I see my Doc this week.
John Clayton
04-06-20, 03:07
Stuck here in Canada, can't get laid cause all the women think that they are all going to die...
PP.I always found that danger made them horny. Nothing like a whiff of tear gas, getting shot at and missed, or barely avoiding death to get them wet.
WestCoast1
04-06-20, 04:51
New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%.FT: Can you provide a link?
TurdyCurdyOne
04-06-20, 09:56
With no testing the patient died from the flu, heart, or whatever. Statistics will show zero Covid deaths.
New information out: As many as 50% more people have been infected and had no symptoms (asymptomatic) and got over it without knowing they had it but now have the antibodies so are now basically immune. These people did not go thru the healthcare system so are not included in J Hopkins spreadsheet. I guess that means the death rate is actually far less than 1%. NOTE: I want to be one of those so I can catch the next plane leaving for SEA. I see my Doc this week.Just as I said previously, the death rate is less than 1% among otherwise healthy individuals. If your sick, old and debilitated, it goes up. But the insanity rate and the rate of fascist leaders who think they can take away all your liberties without consequence is more like 90%-far more worrisome than the latest strain of the flu. The diff is mostly that we don't have vaccine for it yet and it's highly contagious. What, me worry? No way.
WestCoast1
04-06-20, 11:03
Dunno if this is meaningful to anyone, but just in case, here it is.
Link that I found the pic from: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_coronavirus_pandemic_in_the_Philippines#By_region
Link to a google doc spreadsheet with information about every case and death: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1wdxIwD0b58znX4UrH6JJh_0IhnZP0YWn23Uqs7lHB6Q/edit#gid=0
WC.
FT: Can you provide a link?Long article;.
The bottom line is two studies have been done; A cruise ship study had 17.9% asymptomatic and another study by University of Japan found 30.8% asymptomatic. Two relatively small studies is not much but it is what we know now. These people had no symptoms or super mild and never sought medical care. (People with no symptoms can still infect others), take away message for me and any other anal people that follow the numbers is that the "total cases" number probably does not include a high percentage of people who never sought care and that lowers the death rate computation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/#73 fce0 fb7 e90.
Wicked Roger
04-06-20, 21:39
Just as I said previously, the death rate is less than 1% among otherwise healthy individuals. If your sick, old and debilitated, it goes up. But the insanity rate and the rate of fascist leaders who think they can take away all your liberties without consequence is more like 90%-far more worrisome than the latest strain of the flu. The diff is mostly that we don't have vaccine for it yet and it's highly contagious. What, me worry? No way.Where did you debunk to Turdy. Jakarta or NYC or Karachi? Please share with us a photo or two or you not being scared in those cities by walking around the park, going to shops and mosques, generally hanging around all parts of these cities with not a care in the world.
And be sure you lket people cough and sneeze on you or near you as you are immune LOL.
WestCoast1
04-06-20, 23:03
SNIP take away message for me and any other anal people that follow the numbers is that the "total cases" number probably does not include a high percentage of people who never sought care and that lowers the death rate computation.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/#73 fce0 fb7 e90.Makes sense, thanks.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/brucelee/2020/03/18/what-percentage-have-covid-19-coronavirus-but-do-not-know-it/#73 fce0 fb7 e90
I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.
I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.I got an email from the Government of Canada. They are arranging a charter back to Canada to take any remaining Canadians who want to go home. Cost is to be 2200 USD per person one way. Compare to 35,000 p round trip Cebu-manila_Vancouver-Winnipeg RETURN that I was looking at for June back in January.
It appears that it would include sweeper flights from Cebu, Dumaguete, Iloilo, Davao and other places if necessary.
That is a better deal than the Port Morsby PNG to Tokyo flights that are also being arranged, 4200 USD economy 10,000 USD business class.
Steve Nash
04-08-20, 00:19
I got an email from the Government of Canada. They are arranging a charter back to Canada to take any remaining Canadians who want to go home. Cost is to be 2200 USD per person one way. Compare to 35,000 p round trip Cebu-manila_Vancouver-Winnipeg RETURN that I was looking at for June back in January.
It appears that it would include sweeper flights from Cebu, Dumaguete, Iloilo, Davao and other places if necessary.
That is a better deal than the Port Morsby PNG to Tokyo flights that are also being arranged, 4200 USD economy 10,000 USD business class.I got the same email yesterday, but I got it too late, because two days earlier I change my cancelled flights for July and I pay nothing. I was surprise, I guess since they were both the same flight numbers as my canceled flights it is free.
Even if I got that email earlier, I would choose staying until July and pay nothing, rather than spending 108,000 php!!
TurdyCurdyOne
04-08-20, 00:42
Where did you debunk to Turdy. Jakarta or NYC or Karachi? Please share with us a photo or two or you not being scared in those cities by walking around the park, going to shops and mosques, generally hanging around all parts of these cities with not a care in the world.
And be sure you lket people cough and sneeze on you or near you as you are immune LOL.Same to you.
I got the same email yesterday, but I got it too late, because two days earlier I change my cancelled flights for July and I pay nothing. I was surprise, I guess since they were both the same flight numbers as my canceled flights it is free.
Even if I got that email earlier, I would choose staying until July and pay nothing, rather than spending 108,000 php!!I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer. If any restrictions are still in place this summer it will be more hassle than it is worth. All I want to go back for is to visit family see a couple special friends then come back here.
Right now there is 14 day mandatory quarantine which will be longer than I want to stay there plus wil cost me more than I live on and monger here for a month. (I don't have a house there and would be in a hotel.).
On return I would expect another 14 days here so a one week at home would become a 5 week effort, most spent in quarantine.
WestCoast1
04-09-20, 01:44
I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer.And now, this. Airlines will struggle to refund monies; they will more likely offer future vouchers or delayed refunds.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/refunds-for-cancelled-flights-unbearable-task-iata-190011931.html
Steve Nash
04-09-20, 03:33
I am pretty much resigned to not going to Canada this summer. If any restrictions are still in place this summer it will be more hassle than it is worth. All I want to go back for is to visit family see a couple special friends then come back here.
Right now there is 14 day mandatory quarantine which will be longer than I want to stay there plus wil cost me more than I live on and monger here for a month. (I don't have a house there and would be in a hotel.).
On return I would expect another 14 days here so a one week at home would become a 5 week effort, most spent in quarantine.I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
I had many plans for this summer in Canada, 2 weddings that one of them was postponed already, the other one still deciding if they will cancel. I had a season pass from wonderland which I guess I will get my money back, a group camping that so far they told me is still on no matter what, but will see. And the regular summer festivals / events I attend and also birthday parties. I love summer in Canada, but I guess this summer won't be the same as other years.
And now, this. Airlines will struggle to refund monies; they will more likely offer future vouchers or delayed refunds.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/refunds-for-cancelled-flights-unbearable-task-iata-190011931.htmlOf the 3 flights I cancelled, two gave a credit voucher to be used within 24 months and the other has a refund in process and I'm expecting money to hit my bank in 1 to 2 months.
Luckily, I'm a frequent flier with all these airlines so I'm ok with the credits. The only downside is that each one is only redeamable as a single ticket with no cash for any unused portion. As one of the tickets was a mutistop and relatively expensive, I'm actually looking for ways to burn up the credit beyond a regular out and back ticket when things settle down.
All my Agoda hotels were refunded in full within 24 hours.
All up, I don't think I've got too much to complain about.
Enjoy. G.
AussieGaigin
04-09-20, 05:55
I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
.My understanding is that, although you may not be infected or have any symptons, you could still be carrying the virus (which is not detectable). It can take up to 14 days to actually affect you and be detectable, hence the need for the 14 day quarantine, especially if you have come from a high risk area. Here in Australia, people coming from low risk areas are required to self-quarantine for the same 14 days.
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Luckily, I'm a frequent flier with all these airlines so I'm ok with the credits. The only downside is that each one is only redeamable as a single ticket with no cash for any unused portion. As one of the tickets was a mutistop and relatively expensive, I'm actually looking for ways to burn up the credit beyond a regular out and back ticket when things settle down.
.....Two words Business Class.
Or two other words First Class.
For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.
Wicked Roger
04-09-20, 08:37
I have a plan to avoid the 14 days quarantine when I arrive, I will start coughing so I can get the rapid test done on me, hopefully it works.
By July, I'm guessing rapid test will be the norm at the airport and if you have negative it means you don't have it so not need to do the quarantine. Hopefully this is true by July.
I had many plans for this summer in Canada, 2 weddings that one of them was postponed already, the other one still deciding if they will cancel. I had a season pass from wonderland which I guess I will get my money back, a group camping that so far they told me is still on no matter what, but will see. And the regular summer festivals / events I attend and also birthday parties. I love summer in Canada, but I guess this summer won't be the same as other years.Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.
You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.
Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.
But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing!
Steve Nash
04-09-20, 16:34
Be careful what you wish for as you assume the country will have millions of test kits and be ramped in terms of health care. Are you thinking of the Philippines? LOL.
You will need to self isolate regardless or if you start coughing you could end up in hospital and maybe asked to pay for it.
Silly things like coughing near officials where I am now = jail so think carefully.
But of course you also assume life is back to normal in the Philippines when various news sites are saying Asia is the next major hotspot and the country has yet to start proper testing!I was talking about my international flight back to Canada on July, not my domestic flight to Cebu or Manila.
In Canada health care is free, and I heard they have hundreds of labs in the country, plus they will start implementing the rapid test at the airports soon, if they haven't already.
But like AussieGaigin said I might had caught the virus (for example in the airplane) and not be detectable yet. So I would have to do the 14 days self-quarantine at home no matter what, got to becareful and make sure, I don't want to infect a family member who will probably pass it to the eldest in the family and that's not good news.
Two words Business Class.
Or two other words First Class.
For those who have never sat in the front of the aircraft, it is a completely different world.Front of the plane is nice but I was thinking seriously about a detour here:
7 dollar pussy.MC has listed numerous options for fiscal responsibility. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
I am surprised nobody has posted an update.
Philippines has announced an extension of the Extended Community Quarantine (ECQ) until at least April 30.
No flights in or out before that date.Noooooo.
I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.
GoodEnough
04-11-20, 12:03
Noooooo.
I was supposed to go last month. Was hoping to take a trip this month.I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June. The local quarantines keep getting extended and the death rate keeps creeping up, and the government seems serious about keeping the lockdowns in place until the death rate falls dramatically. Testing here is still sparse and public health resources are not abundant, and the government is exercising great caution in lifting restrictions which are getting even tighter in many areas, including Davao where I live.
GE.
I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June.Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.
I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.
Enjoy. G.
GoodEnough
04-11-20, 12:29
Correct me if I'm wrong but the OP won't get in this month as a tourist even if he wants to: no VOAs are being issued to foreign arrivals and most airlines have cancelled inbound flights anyway.
I was scheduled to be there now but I'm expecting delays of several months before its wise and possible.
Enjoy. G.That's correct, no flights and no visas, but in theory I believe that's supposed to be lifted the end of April. I think most people here are betting on an almost complete lockdown that will last at least through May. There's no reason to be here now as hotels are closed, even Air B&B places aren't accepting anyone, the streets are deserted and all bars (together with most other businesses) are closed. I went off of our property today for the first time in about 10 days to buy some meds, and it was like driving around a ghost town. The condo in which my friend is staying in Davao will not allow anyone in to visit him.
I have a friend who has a condo on Burgos St and he tells me that it too is deserted and nothing is open.
GE.
Mr Enternational
04-11-20, 14:21
I would recommend not considering travel here until at least June. June? He will be lucky to get there by November.
Chocha Monger
04-11-20, 15:55
June? He will be lucky to get there by November.Most definitely, the game has changed. The days when mongers boarded a flight, landed in Flipsville, and whipped their cocks out for service are over. It is anyone's guess if the good old days of BBFSCIP on arrival will ever return. Even when flights resume they will be pricey and there may be tighter entry restrictions and quarantine requirements. The Wuhan virus has not fully ravaged the Philippines yet. When the mass burials begin, mongers should expect increasingly draconian measures to fight the outbreak. Mongers creaming in their hands in anticipation of returning to LBFM Paradise should curb their enthusiasm and accept that it is not going to be more fun in the Philippines for quite some time.
I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.
I'm debating whether to extend my post Convid19 trip to Philiipnes or add a side excursion to Vietnam.
I've been to Vietnam before and had a great time but it was over 10 years ago.
So far research has identified:
Philippines has a greater opportunity for BBFS, LT, part timers and I already know my way around, have contacts etc.
Vietnam has generally better looking girls at all price points, copious opportunities for very cheap 45 minute HJ / BJ / FS sessions, more expensive and less common LT options and it would be something different.
Anyone else care to compare or contrast the two options? Any major points that I may have missed?
Thanks. G.Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop. Most good looking girls are taken by Chinese who are entrenched in Vietnam. Yes, there are many.
Entertainment venues and girls but you are not going to Find Philippine warmth and friendship.
Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.
Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.
Comparing Phi and Viet is useless for mongering. Firstly the problem is the language. Unless you live there and cultivate friendships you will not get the cream of the crop....
Economy in Vietnam has greatly improved and less and less girls are in prostitution unlike Philippines. In Philippines we have exploding population which works in our favor.
Few years ago I did some business there and had business contacts. They arranged some nice girls. But none would allow BBFS. They would stay LT.Thanks for that. I guessed that the scene in VND is almost industrial. '000's of serious lookers available on kynu, hot tocs etc conveyor belts but for 45 minutes, with a list of in / exclusions. Normally, I enjoy a much more relaxed session.
Thanks again. G.
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