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Locamotive
09-17-20, 21:50
Challenge accepted. Brazil. You can experience real beauties for even under $50. $20 as well. And get this. They even have Asian Brazilians. And Brazil is open to Americans. Dare I mention Colombia, which is supposed to open in the next couple of weeks. And the infrastructure is even better in those 2 countries.True, didn't think of those. I've heard S. America does have good possibilities. Have not tried that part of the world but reading post quality there is quite good for a reasonable price. My preference and I'm sure others are the Asian cuties. Their GFE is unmatched from my experience. Do Latinos provide similar, I'm sure they do if you are familiar with that market. S. E. Asia I can just step off the plane and hit the ground running as over the years many contacts. South America I would be starting from scratch but its a idea if things don't improve. You must admit the slant eyed cuties have a exotic quality, but to each his own. I think its going to be a long wait for that again.
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Problem now is politicians cannot be proven wrong but science can be.They can be proven wrong, but then they cry FAKE NEWS.
SethMacfarlane
09-18-20, 05:01
Challenge accepted. Brazil. You can experience real beauties for even under $50. $20 as well. And get this. They even have Asian Brazilians. And Brazil is open to Americans. Dare I mention Colombia, which is supposed to open in the next couple of weeks. And the infrastructure is even better in those 2 countries.Asian brazilian? Fuck that sounds awesome!
Mr Enternational
09-18-20, 10:02
I've heard S. America does have good possibilities. Have not tried that part of the world but reading post quality there is quite good for a reasonable price. My preference and I'm sure others are the Asian cuties. Their GFE is unmatched from my experience. LOL. It may be time for some new experiences then because after the first 15 minutes with a Brazilian chick you would be asking her to marry you or think you were already married to her. Sometimes you have to pay them extra to get them to stop. And to top it all off, nobody's cow dies or anything like that afterwards.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiro
Soapy Smith
09-18-20, 13:57
LOL. It may be time for some new experiences then because after the first 15 minutes with a Brazilian chick you would be asking her to marry you or think you were already married to her. Sometimes you have to pay them extra to get them to stop. And to top it all off, nobody's cow dies or anything like that afterwards.
https://www.photoacompanhantes.com/acompanhantes/rio-de-janeiroThese are nice looking women, but these ads don't seem to offer much evidence of GFE. There are attractive women in porn too, but what happens in those videos is about 360 degrees distant from GFE.
Mr Enternational
09-18-20, 14:36
These are nice looking women, but these ads don't seem to offer much evidence of GFE. There are attractive women in porn too, but what happens in those videos is about 360 degrees distant from GFE.LOL. Let all the posters in that thread be the evidence. And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. Plenty of porno stars to go around there at the same normal cheap prices as all the other girls. Most guys that go there have fucked several, myself included. All I am saying is the same that most would say: if you really want to fuck then you go to Brazil. If you are a lazy, half-ass fucker then those chicks will drain you and leave you in a ditch somewhere. That country is the major league of fucking. There is no dodging cum like these chicks in other countries. They take theirs straight no chaser and beg for more.
Soapy Smith
09-18-20, 22:29
And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. LOL back at you! How do you know I didn't mean doing a full 360 in search of non-existent GFE?
Roll Aides
09-19-20, 02:19
Can you get along there without knowing Portuguese, or not so much?
LOL. Let all the posters in that thread be the evidence. And if it was 360 degrees from GFE then it would still be GFE. But I get that you meant 180. Plenty of porno stars to go around there at the same normal cheap prices as all the other girls. Most guys that go there have fucked several, myself included. All I am saying is the same that most would say: if you really want to fuck then you go to Brazil. If you are a lazy, half-ass fucker then those chicks will drain you and leave you in a ditch somewhere. That country is the major league of fucking. There is no dodging cum like these chicks in other countries. They take theirs straight no chaser and beg for more.Brazil is a country for the pro mongers. The lazy ass, shy, scared of the dark ones will get eaten alive there. They best stick with Costa Rica. Brazil isn't for everyone.
FuriousGeorge
09-20-20, 20:10
My buddy went to Costa Rica last year and said it was definitely condom only. I think Brazil is the same from what I've heard. The Philippines is known for, uh, NOT that. Add to that the fact that the girls speak English and that you can actually communicate and vibe with them, makes it my destination of choice. I can't wait to get back.
My buddy went to Costa Rica last year and said it was definitely condom only. I think Brazil is the same from what I've heard. The Philippines is known for, uh, NOT that. Add to that the fact that the girls speak English and that you can actually communicate and vibe with them, makes it my destination of choice. I can't wait to get back.OMG! A post about PH in the PH forum!
I can't wait either. I have 6 girls lined up. Plus one 20 yo cherry girl refereed by her 30 yo Tita. Hope I can get there before her 21st birthday.
WestCoast1
09-20-20, 23:21
OMG! A post about PH in the PH forum!The problem with the lack of reports is there is not much to report during lockdown. Obviously the gogo bars are closed, as is LAC and the Burgos FL street scene. The only thing left to report on is the province scene and Tinder-type girls, which has been done. I have a handful of regulars at this point tossing my salad routinely. Very satisfying, but not much worth reporting.
FuriousGeorge
09-21-20, 01:40
Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.
My buddy went to Costa Rica
Thinking about the future. Has there so far been any dumping of real estate as mongers head back to the western homelands?
How about resort land at Siargao? I heard they had a boom last few years when boracay was closed, then boracay reopened and then later covid hit. Presumably lots of joints must be feeling the pain of over investing at the top of the market.
How about the Manila condo market? Must be a mess.
Any intel appreciated.
BL.
Mr Enternational
09-21-20, 06:29
Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.Flights to Colombia started back yesterday and even though they had one of the strictest lockdowns, many mongers were still reporting daily of their penises touching vaginas while they were "stuck" in the country.
I can't wait either. I have 6 girls lined up. Plus one 20 yo cherry girl refereed by her 30 yo Tita. Hope I can get there before her 21st birthday.Don't hold your breath.
I have a friend who works in Immigration in Intramuros.
All priority is being given to (a) returning OFWs (b) anyone with family ties and / or a residence visa (13 A) who can validly justify entry with a visa obtained at a PH embassy (c) business-linked people who have established bona fide business in the PH and who have obtained a visa at an overseas Embassy and (d) diplomats.
He joked that NOBODY else wants to visit the Philippines right now for genuine tourism since most things are closed. He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. So unless you're in (a) - (d), please fall in line.
PedroMorales
09-21-20, 18:15
Don't hold your breath.
I have a friend who works in Immigration in Intramuros.
All priority is being given to (a) returning OFWs (b) anyone with family ties and / or a residence visa (13 A) who can validly justify entry with a visa obtained at a PH embassy (c) business-linked people who have established bona fide business in the PH and who have obtained a visa at an overseas Embassy and (d) diplomats.
He joked that NOBODY else wants to visit the Philippines right now for genuine tourism since most things are closed. He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. So unless you're in (a) - (d), please fall in line.Covid19 is moving towards poorer countries like the Philippines https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries and these guys are thinking of Pinays lining up to chew on their marshmallows. Oil prices are in the toilet and a massive expulsion of OFWs could be on the cards, throwing the Philippines into utter turmoil and these pathetic urchins think their marshmallows are of consequence. I have been holidaying in Europe and small firms are being crucified with the cops and their authorities on their case. Only for the kindness of strangers, Germans in particular, these folk would be screwed. Even if Duterte wanted to open up Angeles for the small minority who benefit from it, the WHO mafia would stop him.
A major reset is on. The weather here in Europe is great unless you are a virus but the virus marches onwards. In my owsn case, I am hoping for one last hurrah in the Philippines, if we are ever allowed back in. Your thoughts on dates (2021/2 etc) would be welcome. I consider places like Angeles to be now part of history. Hollywood might make a movie of it sometimes.
As for my own marshmallow, I am going through options but this universal celibacy is no laughing matter. Providers have taken to the hills and one has to be dubious of those who are still open for business. I remember when HIV was ravaging India, the hookers were still going at it full tilt. I have even been eyeing up junkeys, who are so strung out they should turn you off sex forever.
I feel the problem is we have populists of left and right for politicians and civil servants who who were born without brains or initiative running the show.
Any PRACTICAL advice / indicators welcome. I don't even see planes advertising trips now. I had three planes rides cancelled on me in the last month. God knows who can survive this ongoing mass house arrest.
Mr Enternational
09-22-20, 00:18
Thinking about the future. Has there so far been any dumping of real estate as mongers head back to the western homelands?
How about resort land at Siargao? I heard they had a boom last few years when boracay was closed, then boracay reopened and then later covid hit. Presumably lots of joints must be feeling the pain of over investing at the top of the market.
How about the Manila condo market? Must be a mess.My girlfriend and her partners had to let their new bed & breakfast in Siargao go as well as their shop at Mall of Asia. Fucked up.
Soapy Smith
09-22-20, 05:41
He then joked further "that the only people who want to come to PH at present are horny guys who want to take advantage of girls who are poor", and we're not likely to let them in any time soon. What a sour attitude. Given the abundance of poor girls in the Philippines, he oughta be willing to share. You'd think some of those NGO do-gooder types must have gotten to him.
Soapy Smith
09-22-20, 05:49
I don't even see planes advertising trips now. I had three planes rides cancelled on me in the last month. Airlines are signaling major layoffs.
Philippines extends state of calamity for one year amid COVID-19 spread.
Source: Xinhua.
2020-09-18 19:27:37.
Editor: huaxia.
MANILA, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has extended a state of calamity for a year amid the spike of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country, the government said on Friday.
Duterte declared a state of national calamity for six months in mid-March as the country strengthened its response to the pandemic.
"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," read the proclamation that Duterte signed on Wednesday but was released to the media on Friday.
The proclamation said the extension will, among others, "effectively afford the national government, as well as local government units (LGUs), ample latitude to continue utilizing appropriate funds, including the quick response fund, in their disaster preparedness and response efforts to contain the spread of COVID-19, monitor and control prices of basic necessities and prime commodities, and provide basic services to the affected populations. ".
The Philippines continues to grapple with a surging number of COVID-19 cases despite the imposition since mid-March of varying degrees of lockdown measures that shut down 75 percent of the economy.
The Philippines now has 279,526 confirmed COVID-19 cases, including 4,830 deaths and 208,790 recoveries. Enditem.
Copyright 2000-2020 XINHUANET.com All rights reserved.
Engine Driver
09-22-20, 09:02
Don't hold your breath.
<snip> and (d) diplomats.Diplomats, priests and NGO do gooder types are the biggest mongers on the planets. Hahahaha. They will certainly make sure that no poor LBFM starves.
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"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," .....Unless earlier lifted or extended as the circumstance may warrant is the key wording. While we can take a clue as to how long the government expects the impact of the virus to last, that does not mean travel will be restricted this long or that tourists will not be allowed. As I understand a state of calamity simply allows the government to exercise additional powers during that period. These powers may be used well into the new normal or beyond for economic reasons.
PedroMorales
09-22-20, 10:13
Populist politicians (ie 99% of them) sing from the same hymn sheet. There is no way mongers wil be allowed in soon and, if they were, they would be blamed for Covid spikes and the shake downs would be horrendous. I would actually say some elements in Pinoy society are happy with this.
Duterte is not going to risk Angeles or Makati blowing up in his face. They are small; beans compared to international remittances in any event. The clock is being resent. Reality is being dispensed with and virtual is in. Europe is a mess with quarantine and other rules changing from day to day. I am under self quarantine myself but, more sadly, am confined to barracks as we cannot go anywhere or bonk anyone. Talk of going to the Philippines is akin to going to the moon, or Africa in the 1930's.
Jollibee days are over.
Philippines extends state of calamity for one year amid COVID-19 spread.
Source: Xinhua.
2020-09-18 19:27:37.
Editor: huaxia.
MANILA, Sept. 18 (Xinhua) -- Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has extended a state of calamity for a year amid the spike of COVID-19 cases and deaths in the country, the government said on Friday.
Duterte declared a state of national calamity for six months in mid-March as the country strengthened its response to the pandemic.
"I, hereby extended the declared state of calamity throughout the Philippines for a period of one year, effective September 13,2020, to September 12,2021, unless earlier lifted or extended as circumstance may warrant," read the proclamation that Duterte signed on Wednesday but was released to the media on Friday..
Soapy Smith
09-22-20, 14:08
As I understand a state of calamity simply allows the government to exercise additional powers during that period. These powers may be used well into the new normal or beyond for economic reasons.I think that's exactly right. In particular, declaring a state of calamity authorizes local government units and national agencies to draw down resources from the national government for response, recovery, and mitigation costs.
Interestingly, the case and death numbers indicate that the Philippines has a 1.7% fatality rate among those that contract the virus. Globally that rate is currently 3%. Perhaps the Philippines is doing a better than average job of responding to known cases.
I think that's exactly right. In particular, declaring a state of calamity authorizes local government units and national agencies to draw down resources from the national government for response, recovery, and mitigation costs.
Interestingly, the case and death numbers indicate that the Philippines has a 1.7% fatality rate among those that contract the virus. Globally that rate is currently 3%. Perhaps the Philippines is doing a better than average job of responding to known cases.In March, 6 months of calamity was declared and now extended for another 1 year.
I think more like they are giving up of really bringing down the virus numbers, rather more concerned of an economy meltdown, solely pinning the hope of vaccine.
The GCQ status instead of ECQ in NCR attest to that even the virus cases are averaging about 1500 daily.
I live in cebu city and it has done well in bringing down the cases from daily few hundreds to present 30's or so by implementing ECQ from April to June and now we are in MGCQ. Thanks mainly to actions by authorities strict Quarantine measures and apprehend / penalise violators.
But yesterday when returning from shopping for my groceries, I passed by an area which caters vans to passengers for near provincial travel.
There were at least 10 persons including the van personnel and passengers who were not wearing masks or have them pulled down below their nose or mouth.
And about 20 m away sits the security who pretend nothing happened.
I did not see any police or army uniformed person else I would definitely make a complain.
I guessed they thought that it's MGCQ now and they can be complacent since the virus cases are low.
Duterte knows his country men very well that there are many stubborn pigs that make his covid fight very tough. Maybe that is why he permit the shooting of extreme violators that retaliate posing danger.
I do hope cebu does not go back to ECQ cause of these irresponsible hopeless idiots but we know very well how these pigs are and behave.
The situation in NCR is very much worse.
Even Vietnam, that is top in covid cases control is facing a surge in cases.
Tourist travel to Philippines or even Vietnam is not realistic for a long time and worst if you are from a country w rampant covid issues.
Soapy Smith
09-22-20, 23:23
Duterte knows his country men very well that there are many stubborn pigs that make his covid fight very tough. Maybe that is why he permit the shooting of extreme violators that retaliate posing danger.My first visit to the Philippines was for five months in 2006 and 2007. An interesting thing I observed were signs posted in government offices, health clinics, and pharmacy counters that read, "Fall in Line." This is odd wording; more typical instructions in English-speaking countries would be "Form a line." I asked various Filipinos what they believed to be the origin of this wording. Nobody knew. The one place that "fall in line" has been used is in the American military. It was a simple command given to instruct troops, for example, to line up for the mess hall or mail call. I suggested to a few older Filipinos that perhaps these words originated from American occupying forces immediately after WWII, like "fall in line" to get the food or supplies we're giving out. Lacking other explanations, they agreed that this made sense.
The problem with "Fall in Line," is that many Filipinos don't do it. Invariably when I stand in a "Fall in Line" pharmacy line, some Filipino or Filipina will come in later, notice the long line, and slip around further down the pharmacy counter and try to get the attention of other workers back in the medicine dispensing area. Often it works.
The same thing holds for driving in lanes in a multi-lane highway. Filipino drivers often straddle two lanes, perhaps because it offers greater opportunities to move ahead quickly in one of the two lanes if space opens up and to block others behind you from overtaking you. It also applies to basic "right of way" rules. In most countries a vehicle entering from a side street yields right of way to other vehicles already in the closest lane of the through street that they're trying to enter. Not necessarily so in the Philippines. Here the rule of thumb is "whoever gets the front of his vehicle out in front of the other guy's vehicle has right of way." That is, you yield to the guy cutting in ahead of you so as to avoid an accident from hitting him.
What you are observing about Filipino non-compliance with mask mandates and other covid rules is simply another form of "Filipinos don't fall in line."
KilledSoul
09-23-20, 02:12
Whoops, I actually meant Colombia. The videos looked like a great party scene but if my penis can't touch a vagina I'm not interested.Colombian girls do allow bareback if you fuck them once or twice.
What you are observing about Filipino non-compliance with mask mandates and other covid rules is simply another form of "Filipinos don't fall in line."Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.
These dick heads has been experiencing for the past 6 months the effects of the covid that cause thousands of lost lives, great economic impact that leads to huge loss of income and hunger.
The Quarantine lock out from normal living etc etc.
But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.
Soapy Smith
09-23-20, 05:47
Your examples are just a matter of gaining petty advantages. No big consequences.I'm guessing you are not a native English speaker. "Falling in line" has another metaphorical meaning in English that equates with compliance and obedience. My point was that Filipinos often find ways to resist complying with authority, rules, and even laws in many social contexts.
But chose to be ignorant that their stupidity of simple not wearing mask can cause another recurring wave of infection which will return them to the same dire situations.Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.
WestCoast1
09-23-20, 09:17
SambyFun, please clear out your inbox.
Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.The masks people wear are to protect other people from those who have the virus sending contaminated aerosols throughout a room or surfaces. To protect the weara they need to be ones with close seal and exhaust valves which keep the fit but don't protect others.
Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.How does the country u are in now deal with this issue? Is it mandatory for masking ?
I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.
Populist politicians (ie 99% of them) sing from the same hymn sheet. There is no way mongers will be allowed in soon and, if they were, they would be blamed for Covid spikes and the shake downs would be horrendous. I would actually say some elements in Pinoy society are happy with this.
Duterte is not going to risk Angeles or Makati blowing up in his face. They are small; beans compared to international remittances in any event. The clock is being resent. Reality is being dispensed with and virtual is in. Europe is a mess with quarantine and other rules changing from day to day. I am under self quarantine myself but, more sadly, am confined to barracks as we cannot go anywhere or bonk anyone. Talk of going to the Philippines is akin to going to the moon, or Africa in the 1930's.
Jollibee days are over.Not to be too cynical, but IMO things will probably begin to ease up in regards to travel when the Philippine Fiscal year is over and a tally can be done on the lower amount of remittances sent back from those overseas workers who may have had to work "on their backs" to make ends meet. Same goes for those tourist $$ that flow into places like Angeles, Subic and other areas. Maybe one fiscal year can be sustained, but a long term reduction in that type of money flow will begin to change political minds. Same as in places like Singapore, Thailand and other popular mongering locations. Not being able to send OWA out to other parts of the world to replace those that are out there who have stopped or moved on, and the whole cycle of revenue being brought in by bars and clubs can only be missed for so long. Don't let them fool you into thinking that it isn't a lot of money, because if it wasn't, and those do gooders had their way many places would have been closed a long time ago.
Just like the current US election cycle shows, people will use this crisis to get what they want. Case in point the LA Public Health director being caught on the microphone talking about opening the schools after the November 3 elections, as if by that magic date if Trump loses all of a sudden the virus will go away. Not making light of the COVID, nor is this some global plot against Trump, but a politician will do what they can to get as much power and money for themselves and screw the people. Emergency declarations mean more money flow from the government, and for those who work the system they know how to "work the system" and get as much of that excess as they can until those at the top realize that overall more needs to be coming in from other sources.
My long term guess, by the summer of 2021 things will start getting better. By late summer early fall of 2021 travel will see steady increases so that by late 2021 there will be an increase in flights and travel. How can I say this? Winter Olympics in China in 2022 and they could not live it down if they cancelled like Tokyo in 2020. Things will "miraculously" get better by then for the Games to begin.
Actually it won't make much difference if they wear a mask or not. The virus is so small that it will go right through it. Unless it's a FFP2 or IIR mask, but that is most likely not the case.
The majority of the masks that people wear worldwide offer very little protection.That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.
That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.
The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
I wish everyone would stop wining and wear a mask.As with the Covid19 virus, all the whining and whinging will be with us for a long time.
The world is going backwards in many ways and are repeating history. Trump is trying to plunder Tiktok. He only wishes he could declare China as terra nullius.
For the other poster about cutting queues in PI, it happens all over. (I am sure he has tried to cut a queue with a LBFM by offering sweetners. I know I havd).
In New York, there ard many swippers. Taxis, buses, checkout, checkin are common. Swipper no swpping. Actually the South Asians are the worse or maybe there are just more of them in the queues I usually stand in.
The good thing I see is more countries opening up. Lock downs are killing the economy. As with the FAA safety regulations, the systemized balance between cost and lives lost is sinking in and being adopted by many. (I am and will avoid the 737 max).
PI will need to open up to at least to people within its borders. If you are a young stud in the PI, the girl buffet is cheap and plentiful.
PI is still sending their workers around the world. I read that European cruises are going to restart. Many PI ladies work there. Likewises, I assume you can hire a PI lady for some tasks in some countries and bring them out. You might just have to live on that one pussy for a year or 90 days.
China also announced recently that foreign residents who fled are allowed back in.
Likewise Thailand is working on tourist quotas and new guidelines. Google is your friend. Confirm and reconfirm and triple check any announcements. When the left hand does not know the right hand is doing, you as the traveller will get stuck. Thailand is a really good example and I knew a couple people caught there.
Interested to know if any 'business' type of visa and entering the country? Are the call center bosses of Makati and Clark still entering and leaving the country? Probably still subject t quarantine but are they at least getting in / out of the country?
I think It does make a great difference versus not masking, maybe not as foolproof as the mask you mentioned.Only medical masks are foolproof. However, I think most people worldwide are using non-medical masks because medical masks are either not available or too expensive.
The virus is on water droplets that DOES get filtered out.
Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.
Only by medical masks. Not or hardly by non-medical masks.They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets.
https://edition.cnn.com/2020/08/08/us/duke-university-face-mask-test-trnd/index.html
I can buy the multi layer home made cloth ones here for 30 p. I have about a dozen, keep a couple in my car, some in my pack, I just wash them in soapy water and hang to dry after each wearing.
No problem.
Remember Mask it or Casket.
Soapy Smith
09-25-20, 05:47
They have been tested. The micro fibre neck gator that some people wear does not protect. In fact it actually increases aerosol droplets emitted. The thinking is that the fine single layer of fabric breaks up larger droplets into smaller more aerosol sized droplets. I saw a guy with a beard in a store yesterday whose face covering was a coarse mesh hair net, this in a mandatory mask county. I assumed it was a passive-aggressive political statement.
Many don't wear the mask properly. The virus is airborne. It survives a long time on surfaces. Including food items. It is found on frozen food items.
The practice to promote not testing is widespread including Europe and US. Tests are expensive and take a long time.
Some Indian cities are a great study on the covid19 virus spread. Mumbai slums are over 70% infected with the Covid19 and will show if herd immunity works. With the Taj Mahal and trains running, the virus will spread further. If heat kills the virus, it will be seen in India. So far reported death rates are low. Again, no test no virus.
Since Trump will most likely do away with ballots or have a supreme Court stacked with his appointees to choose the next president, there will probably not be any coordinated effort to contain the spread of the virus. US troops and Marshalls will be called to stop protesters but not to stop covid19 from spreading.
There are some tongue in cheek advice on Covid19 safe sex. I only wish I had a remote island like Berlusconi, and stock it with a harem.
Sex and parties are still available but most are driven underground if there is a lockdown. Otherwise booking through virtual means to arrange a face to face can be done. Many just don't follow the quarantine.
Locamotive
09-25-20, 18:08
That's not what the health officials are saying, mate.The health official's are just trying to give everyone a warm and fuzzy. The mask most are wearing will not stop a virus. A scientist from Geneva a few days ago said the mask looks like chicken wire to a virus. His comments of course will be kept off the media. Tobacco mosic virus was the first discovered in the late 1800's but with regular microscope it could not be seen. Germans in 1931 invented the electron microscope so the virus could be identified. If you look at a typical mask with a regular microscope the weave is very far apart, I know I have one from my college days. I can't even imagine what a mask would look like from a electron microscope perspective, probably like he said. Chicken wire.
If the mask makes you comfy, wear one but it can't stop a virus.
Soapy Smith
09-25-20, 22:20
A scientist from Geneva a few days ago said the mask looks like chicken wire to a virus. His comments of course will be kept off the media.
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I can't even imagine what a mask would look like from a electron microscope perspective, probably like he said. Chicken wire. If the mask makes you comfy, wear one but it can't stop a virus.So your Geneva scientist didn't actually run any experiments, he simply asserted that, because the mask is porous, it's ineffective. Assertions like that, even when they seem logical, don't carry a lot of weight when stacked up against empirical evidence. It strikes me there are perhaps three ways you could actually carry out an empirical study about mask effectiveness.
One, you could hold up masks in a laboratory, intentionally try to blow aerosol particles through them, and measure what gets through.
Two, from testing for covid positive cases you could try to assess what proportions of the positive patients had and had not faithfully worn masks in public. There are several difficulties with this approach. First, people lie, so their answers about mask wearing may not be entirely trustworthy. You would also need an estimate of the proportion of people in the general public wearing masks. If the proportion of positive test mask wearers is approximately the same as mask wearers in the general public, you can assume masks make little or no difference. If mask wearers among the positive testing individuals are a smaller proportion of positive cases as compared to mask wearers in the general public, then masks probably made a difference. This approach is also complicated by having to control for factors like social distancing, lockdowns, and so on.
A third approach is to compare infection rates between areas with and without mask mandates. This seems to be the type of evidence most of the "experts" on TV are citing. There are also some potential threats to validity in this design as well: differences in population density, differences in time of initial onset of spreading in particular settings and so on.
Bar tenders, cab drivers, and some scientists all have opinions, but evidence trumps (no pun intended) opinions.
Member #4794
09-26-20, 06:30
My bank account has since doubled again (and I expect it to keep doubling as long as this continues) since my last post the bull market lasted until the first week of this month so record levels of money being made and absolutely nothing to spend it on. People with money that do any kind of investing are making more money faster and easier than they ever have, on both sides of the market. I haven't had so much steak for dinner in my history on this planet. That being said I think I'm going to need to buy a second penis just to get enough time getting it in when phils opens back up.
We debating mask effectiveness? Anyone who has fucked a bar fine bareback shouldn't be wearing a mask, these are dirty men doing dairy deeds literally swallowing veteran hookers vaginal secretions. Come on. I only wear masks in phils for what they are used for the stench of human filth that makes its way to the surface from the canals and the filth that comes out of the back end of trikes. Death rate has dropped by 50% in a very short period of time and will continue to do so, so the doom and gloom alarmists that projected the end of the world were off by 50% and that margin is growing. IF the vaccine is only 50% effective you are talking about 50% less people infected (at the very least) on top of that 50% reduction in deaths. And that also presupposes we do not make any further advancements in therapeutics. People with this fake bravado of mask or die are just sadists, ultimately punishing the poor and disenfranchised and just further exacerbating the poor's plight. This is a classic example of the rich getting ALOT richer and poor getting ALOT poorer.
"'Best case scenario': COVID-19 vaccine approval in PH may come by April 2021, says FDA".
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/25/20/best-case-scenario-covid-19-vaccine-approval-in-ph-may-come-by-april-2021-says-fda
"As COVID-19 cases surge, patients are dying at a lower rate. Here's why".
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2020-08-09/covid-19-coronavirus-survival-rate-improves
"The Rich Got Richer During the Pandemic, Bailed Out by the Fed. How it Happened and Why That's Bad for the Economy".
https://wolfstreet.com/2020/08/19/the-fed-made-sure-the-rich-got-richer-during-the-pandemic-why-thats-bad-for-the-economy/
Member #4794
09-26-20, 06:41
I have been making so much money lately that this has become reasonably priced now as funny as that sounds my question is has any one tried this? You can scoff at it all you want but I hate being stuck in manila traffic and the ride to subic is horrendous.
They say that the flight time is cut down because there is no formal check in you show up and within 15-30 mins you are in the air. I know that the cost is what it is I'm not asking how to get to these destinations the cheapest (I know how to do that). I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? Reason being my bank account has recently grown to the size where this would not set me back very much and if it saves me time and hassle I'm all for it.
https://airtaxi.ph/helicopter-tours-manila-philippines-rates/#tab3.
One, you could hold up masks in a laboratory, intentionally try to blow aerosol particles through them, and measure what gets through.https://www.pbs.org/video/how-well-do-masks-work-ke2qje/
Engine Driver
09-27-20, 01:11
One of our banks was busted by the regulator last week and fined $1.3 billion. First they let the Muslim terrorist types send money through over-the-counter teller transactions to ISIS so they can keep blowing up US Marine humvees. Then they let sick mongers send money to pimps in Flipsville for various dubious purposes. Apparently the bank should have been more alert since they were small, regular transactions going to Flipsville. There should have been an automatic alarm. Hahaha. I wonder if any ISG mongers are embroiled in this? The Philippines seems to attract the most unsavoury types on the planet.
https://www.news.com.au/finance/business/banking/westpac-pays-up-for-austral-scandal/news-story/4161d88925180d6dd70a124b8fafdb8e
If all countries were ranked according to generosity, the US would lead the pack and be the best 'Giver'. The Philippines, on the other hand, would be at the bottom of the pile and be the best 'Taker'. I can't think of anything good to come out of the Philippines apart from balut and may be cheap labor to crew the world's merchant cargo fleet! Nope, I'm not going to include call centres as most of the LBFMs who work those are bird brained nincompoops who can't solve the most basic problem. Hahaha. And grown men are going ape-shit over this corrupt, third world shithole? Seems like most will die without getting their marshmallows sucked one last time. Hahaha.
I have been making so much money lately that this has become reasonably priced now as funny as that sounds my question is has any one tried this? You can scoff at it all you want but I hate being stuck in manila traffic and the ride to subic is horrendous.
They say that the flight time is cut down because there is no formal check in you show up and within 15-30 mins you are in the air. I know that the cost is what it is I'm not asking how to get to these destinations the cheapest (I know how to do that). I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? Reason being my bank account has recently grown to the size where this would not set me back very much and if it saves me time and hassle I'm all for it.
https://airtaxi.ph/helicopter-tours-manila-philippines-rates/#tab3.Good post. I haven't taken the chopper MNL-CRK but I am a pilot and I have investigated the options. If you can afford it, then do it.
ABC does have a rooftop pad but I believe it is weight limited. I do know some customers who took the chopper option but their checked luggage came by road.
Your luggage weight for the smaller R44 will also be a problem if you have a few of you and 30 kgs luggage per person.
If you really want some aviation adventure PH style then consider a multi-stop trip around Luzon or the other islands. This is what I was investigating when I was there.
I'm asking if anyone has actually taken chartered flights around phils and / or a helicopter to clark? I've used Air Juan several times. Not a true charter flight but pretty close to it.
Yes, very convenient point to point and yes, cost was very reasonable being close to what is paid for a decent charter car & boat hire.
Enjoy. G.
Member #4794
09-27-20, 07:44
I've used Air Juan several times. Not a true charter flight but pretty close to it.
Thanks I have heard rumors of an ABC hotel helicopter but I haven't ever really looked into it usually for budgetary reasons.
Air Juan actually gets horrible ratings seems to have a lot of unhappy campers that flew or lack there of, I guess moral of the story is don't ever expect a refund from Air Juan it looks like they are totally shutdown right now I wonder if they will even open back up. I'm glad you had a relatively good experience, this is something that is on my bucket list. I don't know if it will be with Air Juan but always good to have a few more options I didn't even know Air Juan existed.
https://www.tripadvisor.com/Airline_Review-d14190680-Reviews-Air-Juan#REVIEWS.
Thanks I have heard rumors of an ABC hotel helicopter but I haven't ever really looked into it usually for budgetary reasons.
Air Juan actually gets horrible ratings seems to have a lot of unhappy campers I think you will find both are now officially shut down. However, I'm sure ABC could organize something if asked or at least point you in the right direction.
Yes, my experience with Juan was very positive on several trips but I raised them as a proof of concept rather than suggesting that specific airline. As you said, they can't be used anymore even if you want to. There are several more options available, even seaplanes to islands, if you do go ahead.
Enjoy. G.
GoodEnough
09-28-20, 00:33
I think you will find both are now officially shut down. However, I'm sure ABC could organize something if asked or at least point you in the right direction.
Yes, my experience with Juan was very positive on several trips but I raised them as a proof of concept rather than suggesting that specific airline. As you said, they can't be used anymore even if you want to. There are several more options available, even seaplanes to islands, if you do go ahead.
Enjoy. G.ABC sold its helicopter quite a while ago. However, I am sure that if someone were to call the hotel the administration could arrange a private helicopter.
GE.
Nightrider1
10-08-20, 12:49
Had my 50th trip to Phil and left end of Jan 2020 after 30 days. This trip went to Cebu, Tacloban, Samar and Davao. All good meetups. I usually go 4 times a year for a month each trip but now stuck in this pussy wasteland of course, with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume. One positive note is any pics you see in their profile that have masks on you know are fairly recent. LOL.
Member #4794
10-08-20, 13:32
Had my 50th trip to Phil and left end of Jan 2020 after 30 days. This trip went to Cebu, Tacloban, Samar and Davao. All good meetups. I usually go 4 times a year for a month each trip but now stuck in this pussy wasteland of course, with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume. One positive note is any pics you see in their profile that have masks on you know are fairly recent. LOL.I'm doing the same thing you are, but I see it as lead generation, I just tell them to keep I touch and when this thing is all over they get a piece and I get a piece. I am really not in this for a love connection for me personally its all sex so I keep them on the hook by saying I will contact them whenever this is over. But I think we will have a much deeper and higher quality pool to choose from. Only the most dedicated will travel when phils opens back up. I think AC will get set back a few years but in my opinion those were the good ol days. The girls in Manila / AC weren't hungry enough and started to get full of themselves a scarcity of customers will bring back that GFE experience. And all this free time to generate leads wlll just lead to more women with whom I find attractive rather than just settling for Ms right now. The bars might also be stocked with better looking girls seeing as all the 300 k herd OFWs returning home with no contracts will be taking all the skilled labor jobs.
WestCoast1
10-08-20, 15:21
Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop. Maybe we are all getting depressed after so long with no real hope of this ending, and travel can resume.Similar here in-country. At the start of the lockdown, when my regulars refused to leave their homes for any reason, I opened a dating site profile (first time in many years), just for some variety and to see what would happen. Of course nobody wanted to meet at that time, there was a generalized fear that anyone leaving their compound would automatically catch (and then die from) the disease. Superstition. Lots of general chat, including from girls who were within half KM of me. I wanted to suggest a meetup, but there was simply no place to meet other than Jollie, most of the hotels were closed, and certainly nobody wanted to meet (it seemed) for the bangbang. Just chat. When I suggested a meet, it was met with: "Are you crazy its Covid!" And such.
Then, the worm turned. A few weeks later, after just two short messages, a girl suggested a meet. We met, clicked, and she wanted to go to my place. She has since become an enthusiastic (that could be an understatement) regular, several nights per week. Then a couple of my regulars decided to buck their mama's warnings about leaving the brgy. Back to the dating site: I check it twice weekly, just to look at the new gals. I get a few messages each week, but unless a girl is extremely hot, throws herself at me, and can meet at the coffee shop near me, I am just not interested in a meetup. The conversations are short-lived on the dating site. After the first 10 minutes of questions (not unlike in gogo bars), there isn't really much to talk about online (and the girls are of the same opinion). I have dated several of them (once), but I've stopped. No need to disrupt the 'regular' gravy train at this point.
I have had several dating site girls in the past 2 months offer both themselves and their friends, as soon as they could move the conversation from the dating site to WhatsApp.
Regarding economy. Taxi's (and Grab taxis) are in desperation mode. At malls, they often line up 30 deep, before the mall opens, and wait a good chunk of the day for a customer. If you take note of the second or third car in line as you walk into a mall for an hour's lunch and grocery shopping, you might find that that car has moved up one or two spots as you leave. While malls reopened and most stores in the malls are open, foot traffic is 20% of normal (hence, not enough customers). One driver recognized me as he'd taken me several places, from my hotel to a distant mall for groceries, or back. The normal price is about p160 each way. He gave me his phone number and offered to pick me up at my hotel anytime and take me there for p120. He said he would even wait for me to shop or lunch and return me to my hotel for p250. Things are tight. There is a fast-food kiosk in the mall hallways you have seen before, about 5 of them in the malls in town. Only 3 have re-opened, and of the previous 30-ish employees, 10 are now back working (and rotating days of the week, as in M / W / Friday or T / Th / Saturday). Construction guys same: of those who are working, its two weeks on, one week off (or alternately they rotate days of the week). Security guys at the malls, same.
Mr Enternational
10-08-20, 16:40
with the only enjoyment of chats on filipino cupid, whatsapp, skype and FB. Seems these days its just for entertainment value as we can't plan meetings at malls or get into more personal plans. I chat and seem to have good feelings going both ways but then after a few chats we both just stop.Dating sites have always been like that in monger places. If it is not a chick for a serious relationship then you only need to use the site to obtain contacts. You don't have to make it a chore talking to them every day. Chances are you have nothing in common anyway. You just need to hit them up once you are in country or a couple of days before and be like what are you doing, let's get together.
Regarding economy. While malls reopened and most stores in the malls are open, foot traffic is 20% of normal (hence, not enough customers). I just received a chat from one of my regular girls in Makati. She is now working again as a cashier in a Mall store after many months of no job. Made me remissness about her. She would walk about 5 blocks to my hotel after work, nine or ten PM depending on mall closing time. I give her my room number and she comes up elevator and knocks on door. We shower together and then I park her under my desk and she sucks and licks me while I work on laptop. After whatever length of time I want I tell her to stop and she says "Do you want to cum inside now" Yeap. Crawls out from under the desk. Get in bed dear. Much GFE fun, sleeps all night, breakfast buffet together in the morning and then I send her back to her mall job, since she walks to work no fare money but I always give her something to help with her needs. I text her during the day if I want her to come that night, she has never said no, if I have another girl coming or want alone time no chat. She is anxious to resume our arrangement. Me too! She sent me a recent Pic. And appears to have lost weight, she said yes some. I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.
PedroMorales
10-08-20, 21:56
I just received a chat from one of my regular girls in Makati. She is now working again as a cashier in a Mall store after many months of no job. Made me remissness about her. She would walk about 5 blocks to my hotel after work, nine or ten PM depending on mall closing time. I give her my room number and she comes up elevator and knocks on door. We shower together and then I park her under my desk and she sucks and licks me while I work on laptop. After whatever length of time I want I tell her to stop and she says "Do you want to cum inside now" Yeap. Crawls out from under the desk. Get in bed dear. Much GFE fun, sleeps all night, breakfast buffet together in the morning and then I send her back to her mall job, since she walks to work no fare money but I always give her something to help with her needs. I text her during the day if I want her to come that night, she has never said no, if I have another girl coming or want alone time no chat. She is anxious to resume our arrangement. Me too! She sent me a recent Pic. And appears to have lost weight, she said yes some. I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.So she went back to the mall with no change of panties? Yuck.
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I don't think many have gained any weight over the lock down.Without having any hard statistical data other than my own observation skills when in the malls near my home, I am dumbfounded at how much weight so many filipinos (males & females) have gained in the past 3 or 4 months.
I guess it's due to a rice only diet and very little exercise walking to or from work and being at work.
It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.
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I guess it's due to a rice only diet and very little exercise walking to or from work and being at work.
It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.I agree it does defy logic, but if you don't have a lot of cash, rice is a good way to fill a belly. Unfortunately it can lead to overeating and gaining weight. You see overweight being correlated with poverty in the developed world as well.
Also an overall unhealthy diet, high in simple carbs and deficient in just about everything else.
And when did anyone here ever walk?? lol
Wicked Roger
10-09-20, 12:03
rice is a good way to fill a belly. Unfortunately it can lead to overeating and gaining weight. Y
Also an overall unhealthy diet, high in simple carbs and deficient in just about everything else.White rice is the stable and is pure sugar / carb as you say KG so it goes to the belly and stays there. I have tried with some modest success to get the pinays to stop the rice meal where they add one hot dog / dried fish etc and then eat a bowl of rice for breakfast, lunch, dinner and everything in between.
Not helped by unlimited rice at some fast food.
This is the case the world over I think as when we were in the UAE at the same time I would ask them their weight now / at the moment compared with the web site and many had10-15+ extra kilos as limited exercise (mostly due to working 12 hours a day, 6 days a week!) and rice as cheap plus it is there DNA.
Now try and get a pinay to eat brown rice or even worse wild or black rice and you all sorts of drama and tampo at times I find LOL.
Mr Enternational
10-09-20, 15:23
It defies logic, but in checking my observations with others around my place we all agree that lots of people are getting very chubby indeed.I was about to say the same thing is happening in Thailand. Chicks are going home and blowing up. There it has nothing to do with rice, but constant eating. If a Thai chick does not send pictures of anything else, she will send unsolicited pictures of the food she is eating everyday. I say why do you keep sending me pictures of food? Meanwhile, for some reason foreigners assume they have returned home and are starving to death.
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Now try and get a pinay to eat brown rice or even worse wild or black rice and you all sorts of drama and tampo at times I find LOL.I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.
I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.It is pricy but I like it even though I do not do macrobiotic. Hopefully PI and Thailand will not be hit hard with food crisis as the Nobel winner world food program predicts. Looking at their map, most of their programs are in Africa and India. Many girls tell me they like dancing for exercise but cannot do at at home. Covid is changing everything.
AussieGaigin
10-10-20, 03:01
I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little."Wild rice" is not rice at all.
"Wild rice" is not rice at all.Yes, it is a variety of grass, not directly related to normal rice.
Member #4698
10-10-20, 04:18
I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.
Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food, so I trust Thai girl suggestions more and frequently let them turn me on to pretty good Issan Thai Restaurants. But Thai girls suffer from this familiarity issue well and it is a losing battle to turn them on to new food ideas. For example, some of my Thai girls love Saki and Sushi so I take them to Sushi joints occasionally and we have a great time, but I would never take a Thai girl or Filipina girl to a sushi restaurant if the girl had never tried that kind of food beforehand. It would be a minor disaster and waste of my time and money. Let someone else raise their culinary tastes.
Wicked Roger
10-10-20, 08:55
IIf a Thai chick does not send pictures of anything else, she will send unsolicited pictures of the food she is eating everyday..For pinays there Facebook is awash with food picture showing people they are eating a better meal than their friends. Is something I have brought up many times saying what is the purpose of seeing a picture of a half eaten burger, a Jollibee pasta dish or some sushi. They are amazed I don't get it LOL.
Plenty I know on Facebook do this and the 'model' types I know (eg FHM, Playboy Philippines) go a notch higher and have photos of the bubbly, the wine and the hotel restaurant etc. Just to show off LOL.
I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The sales clerks look at me funny, the girls usually refuse to eat it or at least turn up their noses at it and only eat a little.OK, a discussion on rice. Bored as can be stuck in California so I'll jump in. I like brown rice wild grain. Uncle Ben's or whatever. Thirty minutes in the micro and add some worcestershire. Tasty. I'll have to stock up on it before I move to PI next year. Might even tie the knot with a cute little Cebuana I met there a year ago. Province girl. University of Visayas student. Wants to be a teacher. Nineteen years old, super sweet and super sexy. This virus is having all sorts of unpredictable consequences. Cheers mates.
WestCoast1
10-11-20, 03:53
This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.This should be primer reading for all newbs. Its almost impossible to go wrong by (without asking her) grabbing your inbound girl a Jollie Chickenjoy meal (1 piece greasy fried chicken leg, rice or fries, coke) before she arrives (even if she arrives 90 minutes late, she will scarf it down). "Thanks Westie". Sure, now lets wash those hands and get that kit off.
For pinays there Facebook is awash with food picture showing people they are eating a better meal than their friends. Is something I have brought up many times saying what is the purpose of seeing a picture of a half eaten burger, a Jollibee pasta dish or some sushi. They are amazed I don't get it LOL.I get it. I am on three txt groups with co-workers, friends and fam back home, we are constantly txting pics of Starbucks coffees, home meals, and such. I think all of us are age 55+, close to 25 people total. Like teenage girls. Also several of my regulars WhatsApp similar pics back and forth with me, even when I am not in their city. Foodie pics, its a thing. Like sharing the meal together without being there.
Member #4794
10-11-20, 06:02
Might even tie the knot with a cute little Cebuana I met there a year ago. Province girl. University of Visayas student. Wants to be a teacher. Nineteen years old, super sweet and super sexy. This virus is having all sorts of unpredictable consequences. Cheers mates.Don't do it!
Member #4794
10-11-20, 06:25
...Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food...Brown rice?? Is absolutely disgusting LOL! I don't blame pinays for not eating that crap, Black or Purple rice sometimes called "forbidden rice" however taste good and does have health benefits.
I wouldn't even say that Filipinos have a cuisine of their own.
Many of the things that are main stays in the Philippines that is any good are imports and their counter parts are much better than the "sweet" version in the Philippines.
Siopao, Lumpia = Chinese mostly hokkien Chinese.
Lechon, Adobo = Spanish.
Pandesal translates to salt breads but these things are VERY sweet not at all salty, almost everything in the Philippines is absolutely ruined by their need for everything to be sweet.
I think I talked about this before but Philippine food is not "good". I have never once longed for a taste of the Philippines in terms of cuisine. Only thing I do miss on occasion are those Cebu dried mangos. I think the mangos in the Philippines for whatever reason are way better than mangos anywhere else in the world.
As far as SEA is concerned I don't think its fair to compare Thai food to food in phils they are in a different category:
Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore / Malaysia, Indonesia all have "good" food.
Cambodia, Laos (although bread is good here), Myanmar & the Philippines have horrible /"bad" food. With very questionable sanitary conditions.
Member #4794
10-11-20, 08:49
I brought back a small package of wild rice from Canada. (It is very expensive there and almost a delicacy.) They refused to even taste it.
I buy brown rice, the whole grain with the husks on it, much more healthy. I like the taste too.
The husks are 100% inedible and all rice grown in North America has high concentrations of arsenic and mercury brown rice having higher concentrations than white rice. The rice they are eating in the Philippines is actually healthier for you in that regard and the food nuts say brown rice has something called antinutrients in it that being said it certainly is not MORE healthy than ph locally grown rice which will have lower concentrations of arsenic and mercury.
Member #4698
10-11-20, 14:05
White rice is an "empty" processed carb because most of their dietary fiber and nutritional components have been removed. I try to stay away from all processed carbs in order to keep my weight under 174 lb. That is all I have against the product. A baked potato or baked yam, no butter added, is a much better source. Beans which are high in protein and "complex" carbohydrates is a good, natural food source as well. It is all about staying trim & fit so I can do two 20 something girls a day. Young girls are good for your health.
WestCoast1
10-12-20, 08:22
It is all about staying trim & fit so I can do two 20 something girls a day. Young girls are good for your health.Quite right. They are filled with white-rice carbs; the only thing missing is my protein. I'm glad to do my share by giving up a piece of me (several times / week; my promise to the pinay sisterhood -- you are welcome, ladies).
Soapy Smith
10-12-20, 08:25
The husks are 100% inedible and all rice grown in North America has high concentrations of arsenic and mercury brown rice having higher concentrations than white rice. The rice they are eating in the Philippines is actually healthier for you in that regard and the food nuts say brown rice has something called antinutrients in it that being said it certainly is not MORE healthy than ph locally grown rice which will have lower concentrations of arsenic and mercury.I recently read a study from Dartmouth that concurred in your concern about arsenic and mercury in brown rice. Apparently most of the arsenic and mercury are bleached away when brown rice is reduced to white rice. I found another study that says other nutrients get washed away, too; some of these can be replaced with synthesized nutrients that are added to "enriched" white rice, allow their benefits are not as good as those found naturally in brown rice. In addition, other studies indicate that white rice, as compared to brown rice, contributes significantly more to Type 2 diabetes. You get to pick your poison.
Cannot believe we are discussing rice but I did read research that said the extra energy required for the Filipinos to cook the brown rice outweighs the nutritional benefit which is why white rice is king there.
Philippines also has a standard measure for a restaurant serve of rice with a recent law allowing for a "half" cup serve.
And don't we all like the look on that Filipina face when we first explain that we might eat rice once per week in our country. Not for breakfast, not three times per day.
The world is seriously going to change if we cannot get back to Ph to continue educating these girls.
This is a small pet peeve I have with Pinays. Many of the girls I know are very fixed in their ways and unable or unwilling to step outside of their familiar culinary comfort zone. This national trait is why it is silly and pointless even trying to impress a bar girl by taking her to a higher end restaurant when she would prefer her usual meal at Jollibee or some such place. So, I have learned it is better and a lot cheaper (LOL) to go with the flow and to ask where they want to go for dinner rather than taking them somewhere upscale that I might prefer. Surprisingly some girls have turned me on to some pretty good local food in unexpected places while other girls with baser tastes have nonetheless shown me what to order at Jollibee that is not too terrible like the 2 piece Chicken joy with rice. Still, there are restaurants that I just cannot stand and I will never take a girl to eat there even when she suggests it and really wants to go.
Thai girls have better culinary taste than Pinays because Thai cuisine is better than Filipino food, so I trust Thai girl suggestions more and frequently let them turn me on to pretty good Issan Thai Restaurants. But Thai girls suffer from this familiarity issue well and it is a losing battle to turn them on to new food ideas. For example, some of my Thai girls love Saki and Sushi so I take them to Sushi joints occasionally and we have a great time, but I would never take a Thai girl or Filipina girl to a sushi restaurant if the girl had never tried that kind of food beforehand. It would be a minor disaster and waste of my time and money. Let someone else raise their culinary tastes.Yeah. It was a worry for me for a long time long ago. Luckily and fortunately I have found out over the years that both Thai and Filipina are just as eager to lap up my imported foreign semen as the local variety.
WestCoast1
10-13-20, 13:12
It's not just Jim, Bob and "them". Go look at the Seeking Arrangements thread on this very board to see guys drop hundreds of Dollars or Euros time and again to receive nada. It's no wonder girls are reluctant to engage with us that want them to actually earn their keep.Had a bit of trouble finding SA here on the Board, its under http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4144-Seeking-Arrangements. Pretty bad if those fellas are having trouble. I can honestly say that the video goldrush for the ladies has not stopped any of the foreigner gents here from having an excess of goodness, allowing us to set the tempo of having who we want, when we want (mostly). "Where" can be more difficult for some of us, as some of our hotels / apartments / condos / etc won't allow guests, so that some gents are being forced to use ST hotels.
Roll Aides
10-13-20, 17:15
Cannot believe we are discussing riceRice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.
This should be primer reading for all newbs. Its almost impossible to go wrong by (without asking her) grabbing your inbound girl a Jollie Chickenjoy meal (1 piece greasy fried chicken leg, rice or fries, coke) before she arrives (even if she arrives 90 minutes late, she will scarf it down). "Thanks Westie". Sure, now lets wash those hands and get that kit off.
I get it. I am on three txt groups with co-workers, friends and fam back home, we are constantly txting pics of Starbucks coffees, home meals, and such. I think all of us are age 55+, close to 25 people total. Like teenage girls. Also several of my regulars WhatsApp similar pics back and forth with me, even when I am not in their city. Foodie pics, its a thing. Like sharing the meal together without being there.I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie.
I'm not going to say there are no Filipino foodies, because there are. I have actually met some. Like, three or four. In nine years. (They were all "rich".).
I am going to say, for the average girl, and her classmates—the above-average girl and the below-average girl—their TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ".
It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.
This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.
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This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.It is an international sport for females to try to make other females jealous. Just here they can do it with pictures of JolllyBee foods. Other places it takes a little more.
PedroMorales
10-13-20, 22:58
Good start. We have to respect the rice, brown in my case but I am not for sale. (Though LBFMs can make offers).
Rice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.Bad finish. Women are into this crap. I have a lot of non P4P SE Asian friends. They are always posting this crap. They go nuts when I sent them some random food pics from Europe. It is just the way women are. I travel a lot. I take pics of food a lot. I bonk a lady who bakes cakes. I post pictures of her cakes, all the little add ONS, Santas, Draculas, Valentine, Jesus, married folk. They love it. Let me explain it in a joke.
I walk on a beach in Honolulu. I find a genie in a bottle.
Genie: Spare my life and I will make one wish of yours come true.
Pedro: Build me a bridge from Honolulu to the LBFM factories in Philippines.
Genie: Too hard. Ask me another.
Pedro: Explain women to me.
Genie: About that bridge. Now, if we get 3, 456, 278, 490, 372, 378 rivets to begin with.
I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie.
I'm not going to say there are no Filipino foodies, because there are. I have actually met some. Like, three or four. In nine years. (They were all "rich".).
I am going to say, for the average girl, and her classmatesthe above-average girl and the below-average girltheir TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ".
It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.
This is pretty much the national sport of any female old enough to use a cell phone.
WestCoast1
10-14-20, 03:35
Rice is what powers the LBFM. Respect the rice.Spot on. Serving your pinay a helping of rice before the dirty ensures that she's carbo-loaded and full of energy (an hour later, after the sugar crash, she will sleep it off). Jollie rice powers the vag.
I think you're being a bit over-generous here, Westie. SNIP their TOTAL interest in taking pictures of food (and selfies in hotels,) is to socially one-up her Facebook friends, in a retarded and omnipresent game of "I went somewhere expensive, nah nah. ". It's not about sharing experiences, it's about attempting to induce jealousy.Won't argue with that. WR was saying that he didn't understand it. You and I are saying that its prevalent (for whatever reason).
Roll Aides
10-14-20, 04:05
Jollie rice powers the vag.That's beautiful. They should put this on their advertising.
As with the Covid19 virus, all the whining and whinging will be with us for a long time.
The good thing I see is more countries opening up. Lock downs are killing the economy. As with the FAA safety regulations, the systemized balance between cost and lives lost is sinking in and being adopted by many. (I am and will avoid the 737 max).
PI will need to open up to at least to people within its borders. If you are a young stud in the PI, the girl buffet is cheap and plentiful.
PI is still sending their workers around the world. I read that European cruises are going to restart. Many PI ladies work there. Likewises, I assume you can hire a PI lady for some tasks in some countries and bring them out. You might just have to live on that one pussy for a year or 90 days.
China also announced recently that foreign residents who fled are allowed back in.
Likewise Thailand is working on tourist quotas and new guidelines. Google is your friend. Confirm and reconfirm and triple check any announcements. When the left hand does not know the right hand is doing, you as the traveller will get stuck. Thailand is a really good example and I knew a couple people caught there.I wrote earlier in another post that I would think travel would start back by the end of summer 2021 just so the PRC can get people in the mood to travel the following winter to the Winter Olympics. Guess I was off a bit. Anyone notice the most recent WHO report that said lockdowns are not really doing what they are supposed to be doing and they are winding up putting more people in poverty and folks still getting sick, and that other methods should be looked at. I'll move my prediction of more open travel to around Jan / Feb of 2021. The main reason, at least a year out from the Olympics you have all of the qualifying events worldwide so that athletes can compete to get selected for their respective teams. Since we are talking winter Olympics in 2022, the winter of 2021 will be an important time for those Olympic hopefuls to compete in world competitions to be able to get into the Olympics. But if the world is still in a lockdown, and travel is limited, guess those athletes won't be facing off against each other. WHO / IOC and the rest can't afford that. They blew 2020 and Tokyo and another back to back let down in interest in the games will be bad for business. Plus you would think that Red Army of PRC athletes will want to compete against actual competitors and not just some name selects on teams so there will be a need for preliminaries, thus the need to travel will be there just got to get the governments to open back up. Somehow, enough pressure will be applied and by Jan / Feb (maybe Dec) you will see travel open. Right now, it looks like Sweden will be the team to beat.
Wicked Roger
10-14-20, 23:27
Spot on. Serving your pinay a helping of rice before the dirty ensures that she's carbo-loaded and full of energy (an hour later, after the sugar crash, she will sleep it off). Jollie rice powers the vag.
Won't argue with that. WR was saying that he didn't understand it. You and I are saying that its prevalent (for whatever reason).I know why they do it as Roll Aides said = to boast to their friends etc. I don't understand their mentality as to why this is important at times but having partied with so many pinays and I would say this is 100% why they like phones with cameras LOL I 'understand' Westie but I find it childish, immature etc (but then what has that got to do with our hobby?
Canadian here, never been outside the country for "sex tourism" or whatever but really wanted to try. Then fucking covid happened and I guess I'm waiting till a vaccine or something pops up. Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.
WestCoast1
10-18-20, 01:20
Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.This might sound extreme. But since we all have time on our hands these days: Go back 5 years (or more) on each of these forums (Angeles City, Makati, Cebu, Chat Rooms / Pen pals, and General Info) and read forward. Skip over anything you feel unnecessary. Your question has been asked and answered many times, it is a large and vague question with many answers.
Canadian here, never been outside the country for "sex tourism" or whatever but really wanted to try. Then fucking covid happened and I guess I'm waiting till a vaccine or something pops up. Doing my little research I've come to decide Philippines. Can anyone give me some pointers or info on the scene. Maybe I picked the wrong country to start first or the best place to post this, anything helps.IMHO you picked the right country. Next thing you do is as others advised read all the forums for guidance. You can find info about girls, scammers, current prices, locations etc.
Philippines is also well known for regular girls who will drop their panties if they like you and like what you offer. Open an account with dateinasia. It is a free dating website specifically geared towards Philippine girls. Chat with many and see. Some are more like a GF on your vacation. Do not take advantage of them thinking they are freebies. All girls love money and gifts. Compensate them well.
Although money changes hands treat them well.
This might sound extreme. But since we all have time on our hands these days: Go back 5 years (or more) on each of these forums (Angeles City, Makati, Cebu, Chat Rooms / Pen pals, and General Info) and read forward. Skip over anything you feel unnecessary. Your question has been asked and answered many times, it is a large and vague question with many answers.This is what I did in 2010 before my first trip. I did it for my first trip to Thailand, the Philippines, Colombia, El Salvador etc etc etc. I focused on the city and that particular forum plus the photo galleries of these countries. I did not deal w any thing else, just trip reports and the PGs. Also you might go back a 10 years and look between 2010 and 2016 before the clever haters showed up here. It's still the same except for prices and bar names which you can find easily w a cursory glance from recent reports.
If you have decent game then non pros will be available but the real fun is in the big and small bars in Angeles City, Makati and Cebu City. There are a few seaside towns like Subic and Puerto Galera that also have a bar scene, PG being the better in my book. My first trips always included a side trip to Puerto Galera, Subic and Cebu. Later on I just focused on AC and Makati. Makati is more pricey with better looking big city girls dancing on Burgos Street. Serious fun there. Pics from my last visit in 2019 to Makati, same body clothed and without clothes. She tore me apart and I'm an older guy.
So do your homework here and then ask some intelligent questions afterwards. The Philippines is elementary mongering, it's super easy. When the time comes book a hotel in one of the above cities and asked to have a car pick you up at the airport. Bingo. Done. Then get ready to find out what it's like to be king. Cheers.
Philippines is also well known for regular girls who will drop their panties if they like you and like what you offer....I don't think PI does anything exceptionally well: Prettier girls in Thailand; Nawtier girls in Europe; Bigger tits and ass in Brazil.
However, as a package it does very well. Especially for a newbie where there is no shortage of girls, professional or not, in an english friendly environment and with some simple precautions the OP won't get ripped off.
Enjoy. G.
Member #4698
10-18-20, 17:17
In general, I agree with Sammon and Goffering and under normal circumstances say that you will not go wrong in choosing the PI as your 1st Asian port of call. The girls are super friendly, sexy, and in some cases really hot and they speak English which is both a plus and a minus. But I must add just one caveat to this consensus about the PI and that is my concern about the post pandemic state of the Bars and Go Go's in MNL and AC when travelers are finally allowed back in. I am worried that many bars and Go Go's will never open again while at the same time I have no similar concerns about the Thai girly scene because I know BKK and Pattaya Bars and Go Go's will be there when I return. Many are open right now. So, this concern of mine translates into I do not know where I am going on my next 2. 5 month trip once I am vaccinated and the doors are open. It will depend on what my sources tell me the current scene is like in MNL, Jakarta, and Thailand. I would love to do all three again, but I may have to settle for just doing one or two. Keep this in mind as you plan your itinerary.
I don't think PI does anything exceptionally well: Prettier girls in Thailand; Nawtier girls in Europe; Bigger tits and ass in Brazil.
However, as a package it does very well. Especially for a newbie where there is no shortage of girls, professional or not, in an english friendly environment and with some simple precautions the OP won't get ripped off.
Enjoy. G.Hi G,
Concur (smile) but for me Europe is too expensive and Brazil too far away. Fond memories, however. The Dominican Republic is good value and plenty of big tits. Cheers, mate.
2020 is the first full year since 2010 that I have not had any trips to RP.
2020.
Trips to Doctor = 0.
Prescriptions of antibiotic = 0.
Random sexual encounters = 0.
2017 & 2018.
These were the most intense travel years with 18 trips Au. Ph. Also most intense for Dr visits for some chest infections, worms from volunteering in small towns around AC, crazy stomach bug and a few other unique ailments.
Possibly it's the air travel, although I think much of the infections coming from spending the downtime snogging multiple girls.
The big downside to 2020 is the lack of adventure and Filipina, just pointing out, I for one am much healthier this year.
BL.
I am looking to spend 5 grand on 1 escort. Where do I find a beautiful white looking Philipina escort? Or are they impossible to find?
WestCoast1
10-21-20, 20:08
I am looking to spend 5 grand on 1 escort.1) Is that dollars? Pesos? Are you in-country now?
2) You ask a lot of questions. Do you provide quality field reports? From your most recent dozen or so posts:
Brazil: Would I be able to find a escort like the brunette in the link above? What I'm trying to say is, her look common there?
Sydney: Are Australian prostitutes mostly local. By that I mean British white?
Shanghai: Do Chinese service providers look better in their prospective homeland, than they do in Canada or the US?
Shanghai: How would I go about accessing this upscale Chinese market?
Shanghai: Why are Chinese prostitutes never as good looking as their civie counterparts at least in North America?
Medellin: Are there any white European looking Colombian chicas?
London: Why don't you see any English or Irish providers?
Toronto: Do strip clubs have any extras in the greater Toronto area?
Monterey (Mexico): Have you seen some strippers, who resemble upper class Mexicans?
Egypt: Are there any Lebanon looking sharmota in Egypt?
Turkey: Are the girls Turkish or Russian?
Well-traveled chap!
Wicked Roger
10-21-20, 21:40
1) Is that dollars? Pesos? Are you in-country now?
2) You ask a lot of questions. Do you provide quality field reports? From your most recent dozen or so posts:You can add UK, Canada, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria and India to the list and I had some time all his 'FRs' are questions as far back as 2014 Westie. Seems like a serial one handed typist. There was a monger who did spend $5000 on a SA girl for a few nights in the UAE recently and only he thought it was worthwhile (but we can spend out money how we like on what we like). Imagine that amount in the Philippines. Even I would dress up and act cute LOL.
Vip6682 - how about a swathe of FRs to back up all the questions and the global mongering you claim to have done aka Westie's question / comment number 2 above?
S.
Member #4794
10-21-20, 21:43
Well-traveled chap!It looks like he is trying to fuck his way through the upper echelons of society one country at a time. I feel like his questions are some kind of social equality jab that more hookers should be pearly white?
He has 5 k burning a hole in his pocket and he wants to fuck the whitest thing he can find. We all know Philippines is the land of "white" chicks, they might as well change that to the countries new slogan.
How many glutathione drips would it take to totally turn a pinay into a white girl? I imagine they would just disintegrate before they turned all white.
You can add UK, Canada, Morocco, Lebanon, Syria and India to the list and I had some time all his 'FRs' are questions as far back as 2014 Westie. Seems like a serial one handed typist. There was a monger who did spend $5000 on a SA girl for a few nights in the UAE recently and only he thought it was worthwhile (but we can spend out money how we like on what we like). Imagine that amount in the Philippines. Even I would dress up and act cute LOL.
Vip6682 - how about a swathe of FRs to back up all the questions and the global mongering you claim to have done aka Westie's question / comment number 2 above?
S.You caught me Sherlock.
The Philippine Govt. Decided to allow foreigners with investment visas to return as of November 1 but that is all. There are already several posts on Facebook and other websites claiming that tourists will be allowed to return. That is not the case, still no idea when tourists will be allowed to return so this is just to shut down the rumor that is coming. Only business owners / investors with proper visas and still the Covid test and hotel quarantine will be required.
Only business owners / investors with proper visas and still the Covid test and hotel quarantine will be required.What about this form of tourism?
Regardless, who wants to go there and possibly get real sick? GFE can be deadly right now.
Member #4794
10-25-20, 22:52
October 22, ADVISORY 41 ON THE 2019 NOVEL CORONAVIRUS:
TRAVEL POLICY IN THE PHILIPPINES.
Looks like not much has changed, unfortunately. Got a little excited that there was an update listed but nothing in it that suggests they will be allowing tourists in any time soon.
https://www.philippineconsulatela.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/10/Advisory-41-on-CoViD19-22102020.pdf
What about this form of tourism?
Regardless, who wants to go there and possibly get real sick? GFE can be deadly right now.Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate. Who wants to play against those kind of odds. Probably better to stay away. Prices are like the 70's again.
WestCoast1
10-27-20, 00:25
Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate. Who wants to play against those kind of odds. Probably better to stay away.Not quite right on the 99% (see pic). The elderly (comprising many of our Board members) might have something to worry about. Them co-morbidities are a killer, literally.
Prices are like the 70's again.Thumbs-up to that.
Soapy Smith
10-29-20, 06:10
The elderly (comprising many of our Board members) might have something to worry about. Being a member of the board usually implies having special influence. Seems there are some encounters in which board membership carries an ironic liability. Our friend reach-around might call this the old guy marshmallow liability.
WestCoast1
10-29-20, 06:23
Our friend reach-around might call this the old guy marshmallow liability.As I get older, I get more marshmallow. Sad face.
Absolutely, Covid only has a 99.4% recovery rate.You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.
John Clayton
11-09-20, 04:42
...The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. ...
Simply untrue.
Soapy Smith
11-09-20, 11:15
You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.ISG is probably not a good place to seek medical advice or research results. Johns Hopkins College of Medicine is probably a more reliable source. They are saying one in five Covid patients ends up with heart damage:
https://www.hopkinsmedicine.org/health/conditions-and-diseases/coronavirus/can-coronavirus-cause-heart-damage
Member #4698
11-09-20, 14:21
"Pfizer announced on Monday that its coronavirus vaccine developed with BioNTech SE prevented 90 percent of infections in a trial with tens of thousands of volunteers, in a major step toward authorization of a vaccine for general use.
The Pfizer vaccine trial enrolled 44,000 participants in total, with no serious safety issues arising from the vaccine itself. Trials will continue until at least 164 participants become sick with at least one symptom of coronavirus, and full data for the vaccine's efficacy was still incomplete as of Monday. The duration of immunity caused by the vaccine is as yet unknown.
However, Pfizer said it could ask the Food and Drug Administration by the end of November for emergency authorization of the vaccine.
"This is about the best the news could possibly be for the world and for the United States and for public health," William Gruber, Pfizer senior vice president for vaccine clinical research and development, said in a statement".
You're badly, perhaps willingly, misinformed.
Even in western countries with good health care the average survival rate is 99-97%. What you call recovery rate is just how many people don't die. The vast majority (70+%) have lesions in their hearts. Lots of long-haulers.So by using your numbers my calculation is off by .4% to 2. 6% as there is no clear recovery rate. Especially with all of the hospitals forging death certificates to get the Covid payout. Maybe we should ask Jackson to add a section of the forum titled "Medical Experts. ".
Soapy Smith
11-10-20, 06:39
So by using your numbers my calculation is off by .4% to 2. 6% as there is no clear recovery rate. Especially with all of the hospitals forging death certificates to get the Covid payout. Maybe we should ask Jackson to add a section of the forum titled "Medical Experts. ".As a contribution to the new thread perhaps you can report on the difference in payout to physicians for reporting a Covid death as opposed to normal deaths.
As a contribution to the new thread perhaps you can report on the difference in payout to physicians for reporting a Covid death as opposed to normal deaths.Rather than talking about fucking Covid, can we get back to talking about fucking?
The bullshit content will be about the same, but at least it will be bullish about fucking.
Soapy Smith
11-10-20, 16:19
The bullshit content will be about the same, but at least it will be bullish about fucking.I agree that the bullshit content has been very high, but please keep in mind that only a small portion of ISG guys are actually in country and able to partake in the fucking. For the majority of us who are sometimes active in the Philippines forum humor is one of the few outlets we have to participate. For us the business of fucking Pinays is all pretty hypothetical.
I almost forgot: Covid is the reason that others of us are unable to engage in fucking.
For us the business of fucking Pinays is all pretty hypothetical.
I almost forgot: Covid is the reason that others of us are unable to engage in fucking.Aside from a few million dead or incapacitated and widespread economic collapse covid has had some significant benefits for me:
1/ several once long lost numbers but spectacular performers have resurfaced and I'm super keen to get reacquainted.
2/ after wading through the numerous scammers many unemployed models and promo girls are now aware of my rugged good looks and magnetic personality. Previously this was not a market I actively sought out, having had several disastrous sessions where stellar good looks and performance were very heavily but inversely related. But I must say those that are less hardened are very appealing.
3/ many said models have abandoned the expensive big smoke and returned home to mom in the province. These are areas I prefer to travel around, have fewer cashed up newbie John's to compete with and I already know my way around. I'm seriously thinking of adjusting my normal travel plans of a few days in many locations to a week or two in a select number of places.
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
PedroMorales
11-11-20, 13:23
You are on the right track here and your plans are much more relevant to me than the wet dream fantasies of others. There has to be e a lot of pain in the Philippines. I am sure even the overseas remittances have taken a major hit. The road back, if it ever happens, will; be long and painful, with the dolly birds from Samar and so on very much at the end of the q.
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
There has to be e a lot of pain in the Philippines. I am sure even the overseas remittances have taken a major hit. I've chatted with several girls whose boyfriends have clearly come upon hard times, severely denying their love and generosity. Luckily for me, it's taken the girls about 8 1/2 seconds to seek out replacements.
Enjoy. G.
Amen and amen!
Aside from a few million dead or incapacitated and widespread economic collapse covid has had some significant benefits for me:
1/ several once long lost numbers but spectacular performers have resurfaced and I'm super keen to get reacquainted.
2/ after wading through the numerous scammers many unemployed models and promo girls are now aware of my rugged good looks and magnetic personality. Previously this was not a market I actively sought out, having had several disastrous sessions where stellar good looks and performance were very heavily but inversely related. But I must say those that are less hardened are very appealing.
3/ many said models have abandoned the expensive big smoke and returned home to mom in the province. These are areas I prefer to travel around, have fewer cashed up newbie John's to compete with and I already know my way around. I'm seriously thinking of adjusting my normal travel plans of a few days in many locations to a week or two in a select number of places.
My contributions too are purely hypothetical at this stage but if only a few actually pan out when the airports open, it will be a great story. Well for me at least. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
Amen and amen!Hey F2. How are you?
PM me if you are still thinking of VND as a backup plan to the Phils. See the Photo Gallery there if you need any convincing. 😁.
Enjoy. G.
So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?
So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?He could have stayed.
He could be on one of the allowed visas, business, diplomatic SIRV, spousal.
I have heard that some limited tourists are allowed in, they have to go to an approved resort and only transit through Manila. Never seen any here but who knows.
My guess is that he stayed or he has a local spouse. (or kid).
So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?I had a business buddy just go back last week to AC. He has a business investment visa.
Engine Driver
11-25-20, 11:57
So here's a puzzle. I'm assuming that the Philippines government has not yet started giving out tourist visas. I have a friend in angeles who says her British fuck buddy just arrived in Angeles 4 days ago. So how did he do it? Did he just never leave and is just bullshitting my friend? Is he on some type of business visa? Are they letting in business visitors yet? Any theories?He's on a diplomatic visa. Don't believe what your friend says. He's an eminent diplomat attached to the British Foreign Office. If I'm not mistaken, he's the dapper gentleman in the Saville Row three-piece suit, bowler hat and umbrella that goes for a walk along Fields Avenue on most afternoons.
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.I'm also in Old and I will often get page load problems. Sometimes I just go to internationalsexguide. NL which takes out one layer of web stuff.
Albert9989
11-27-20, 09:18
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.Yes same here on ISG. NL pictures often doesn't show, strange.
Nice Guy 99
11-28-20, 03:32
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.Yep. (filler for ten character minimum. Sigh).
WestCoast1
11-28-20, 03:36
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.
Yes same here on ISG. NL pictures often doesn't show, strange.Yes. I don't have pic problems on this site. But for some time now (few weeks), page updates / refresh, clicking a new link, results in slow updates to the point of timeouts. In addition, the daily database error: "Nightly backup / 4:30-5 am UTC, please try again", I get that about 4-6 pm most days. But about once a week I get it multiple times per day. An example from today in the pics, I got the error message at 5 am and 10 am today (and will probably see it again around 4-6 pm this afternoon).
Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.
AussieGaigin
12-05-20, 21:21
Are others getting very slow download speeds, page updates and even timeout errors from ISG lately? I don't get these with other web pages.I'm in Sydney, but haven't had any problems. Sometimes photos can be a bit slow, but usually only the first one if there is a batch of them.
Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.Oh. The US Anthony Fauci originally had choice words by comparing the better country's hasty approval to someone taking a short cut in a marathon. Whatever the reason, the more people getting vaccinated the sooner the better country will get to their original planoc herd immunity.
Hopefully, PI will benefit and things will recover.
Oh. The US Anthony Fauci originally had choice words by comparing the better country's hasty approval to someone taking a short cut in a marathon. Whatever the reason, the more people getting vaccinated the sooner the better country will get to their original planoc herd immunity.
Hopefully, PI will benefit and things will recover.The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.
MarquisdeSade1
12-08-20, 05:50
The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/12/moderna-covid-19-vaccine-design.html
The speed difference was that the authorities in the UK were taking in data as it became available. In the US the final approval authority wanted to wait until all data was available before starting. This why the FDA (or whoever is approval authority),is not meeting on this for another couple of days.
Personally I am thinking that the Oxford vaccine will be the one here. The logistics of maintaining the cold chain on it are a lot easier for a place like the Philippines.IMHO, I am surprised by both the US action and the UK action. The raw data is not available on all the vaccines. Hence hard for an independent peer analysis. Think Boeing 737 MAX whereby FAA allowed Boeing to do some FAA certification.
The interesting thing is that the cold storage chain for Pfizer / BioNTech is supposedly still being worked out, according to the news. I find that hard to believe as many, including Bill Gates and the organizations they work with, have been looking at this for some time.
Sputnik and Sinovac do not need such very cold storage. Also Sinovac is going to have more local production as with Brazil.
Even the ice cream I eat sometimes are not maintained in a proper cold storage chain.
Well. Britain approved a vaccine because Gavin Williamson says it is a better country. Since better people from the better country will soon be able to benefit from a vaccine developed by Turkish immigrants and rebel colonists and be able to have a vaccine certificate to allow the better vaccinated people to fly on an airline founded by convict descendants to the land of better pussies. So get in line quickly.
I am getting totally drained by all the parched pussies.The better country proud boys would be happy to see their grandparents being vaccined number one and two in England and their Northern Ireland sister was number one.
Think PI most likely get first proud boy visitors from either the colonist or thebetter country. The US is keeping all vaccine production within its borders. For now.
BaddHabbit
12-18-20, 15:06
He could have stayed.
He could be on one of the allowed visas, business, diplomatic SIRV, spousal.
I wonder if that might apply to me then (not that Australia allows us out at the moment.). I have an APEC card, so don't actually need a visa of any kind to travel to Philippines (and most of the rest of Asia). Anybody know?
I wonder if that might apply to me then (not that Australia allows us out at the moment.). I have an APEC card, so don't actually need a visa of any kind to travel to Philippines (and most of the rest of Asia). Anybody know?Maybe I've got an APEC also but haven't asked my immi agent. I will send off an enquiry on Monday. Also consider the limited flights back or a J fare. So assuming you can get a waive to the Australian exit ban, then the J fare back to Au plus the cost of 2 weeks quarantine it's not a sensible business proposition for pussy. Have to adapt to our local environment.
BaddHabbit
12-19-20, 14:12
Maybe I've got an APEC also but haven't asked my immi agent. I will send off an enquiry on Monday. Also consider the limited flights back or a J fare. So assuming you can get a waive to the Australian exit ban, then the J fare back to Au plus the cost of 2 weeks quarantine it's not a sensible business proposition for pussy. Have to adapt to our local environment.Approval for an APEC card takes about 6 months and requires vetting by 20 countries. I'm sure if you had gone through it you would know!! I do have a travel exemption already (for business), but you're right about the cost / reward analysis, for now. Other travel I have done didn't require me going into quarantine but only because of tightly controlled environments related to those trips. Certainly not the case for going pussy hunting! .
Sigh.
Approval for an APEC card takes about 6 months and requires vetting by 20 countries. I'm sure if you had gone through it you would know!! I do have a travel exemption already (for business), but you're right about the cost / reward analysis, for now. Other travel I have done didn't require me going into quarantine but only because of tightly controlled environments related to those trips. Certainly not the case for going pussy hunting! .
Sigh.I was referring to the acceptance of the APEC visa as a valid entry in the current climate (while neither confirming or denying that I have one.).
The best sight you can have in a crowded NAIA arrivals hall is the empty APEC channel.
BaddHabbit
12-21-20, 10:51
I was referring to the acceptance of the APEC visa as a valid entry in the current climate (while neither confirming or denying that I have one.).
The best sight you can have in a crowded NAIA arrivals hall is the empty APEC channel.Ahh, gotcha, my bad. Yeah, that empty lane is always a pleasure.
PedroMorales
12-21-20, 15:15
I see Duterte's finest sre now taking the drug war to neighbours, whacking them with impunity. No more Covid worries for them. Amazing who supports these brazen killers. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/execution-style-killing-of-mother-and-son-by-off-duty-cop-sparks-outrage-in-philippines.
WestCoast1
12-23-20, 04:27
Since the malls re-opened about 4 months ago, they have operated on a very limited capacity (here). Only a few stores originally re-opened, and at half-capacity (as required by proclamation). Later, more stores opened, with currently about 70% of them open, still operating at half capacity. There is almost never a line at the entrances prior to the mall's opening time since covid started. As late as last week, there were at most times of day only about a 30% capacity customer count in the malls, relatively light (especially considering its December / Christmas). But starting Monday this week, the customer capacity doubled (or more). As of today, long lines waiting to get in, with no more social distancing, the outside lines themselves people are close and bumping into each other. The Gaisano grocery store is back to its glory days of all 50+ lanes open with long lines as of 10:30 am. Heavier than normal police presence Mon-Tues this week, a few patrolling or one at the entrance of the mall. This morning at one mall entrance, five heavily-armed camouflaged police at just one mall entrance, helping the guards check every person's bags, eye dee, exit passes, face masks + shield.
Merry Christmas!
Roll Aides
12-24-20, 04:00
I see Duterte's finest sre now taking the drug war to neighbours, whacking them with impunity. No more Covid worries for them. Amazing who supports these brazen killers. https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/se-asia/execution-style-killing-of-mother-and-son-by-off-duty-cop-sparks-outrage-in-philippines.https://news.visayandailystar.com/4500-cops-dismissed/
WestCoast1
12-29-20, 04:37
Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.
A gent here shared similar info with me over coffee a few months ago. His long-time GF moved out of their unit and back in with her sick mom. The relationship had soured previously, and then was over. He contacted one of his previous girls. He met her for coffee and took her back to his place, only to be denied by security: "No new guests". He has since been making use of ST hotels.
Engine Driver
12-29-20, 05:42
Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.
A gent here shared similar info with me over coffee a few months ago. His long-time GF moved out of their unit and back in with her sick mom. The relationship had soured previously, and then was over. He contacted one of his previous girls. He met her for coffee and took her back to his place, only to be denied by security: "No new guests". He has since been making use of ST hotels.Thanks for the update Westie. Seems like horny mongers should wait until a travel bubble is created between their respective rich white man lands and the Philippines. That might actually be a few years away. In Australia, the government is still pondering a travel bubble between Australia and NZ. Both countries have between 0-20 live cases. That might be about six months away. I would think that third world countries would be last on the list. I don't think mongers will be traveling to the Philippines in 2021.
Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?
Browsing thru the Makati and Malate airbnb condos. Many descriptions now include that if you come in from outside Manila, you must quarantine 14 days or get a negative Covid test. Same for any guests you might have. Many of them now limit you to yourself and one other person; when I contact the host there is no wriggle-room on this (whereas previous to Covid, the same unit and same host was just fine if I wanted to bring in a third person for the night, or rotate girls daily, as long as they signed in and coughed up their eye dee). "Sorry management is strict on this sir". One guest only at the time of entry / registration, so you would be stuck with one girl only. Also prices are 1. 5 - 2 x what they were last January; I paid p30 k all in for a month at that time, the same place for the same time January 2021 is now listed p55 k, as are many others well over p50 k that were 25-35 k a year ago.Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers!
FuriousGeorge
12-29-20, 23:36
I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.
Thanks for the update Westie. Seems like horny mongers should wait until a travel bubble is created between their respective rich white man lands and the Philippines. That might actually be a few years away. In Australia, the government is still pondering a travel bubble between Australia and NZ. Both countries have between 0-20 live cases. That might be about six months away. I would think that third world countries would be last on the list. I don't think mongers will be traveling to the Philippines in 2021.
Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?
PedroMorales
12-29-20, 23:41
Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers!Thailand followed that maxim for many years. I guess there is a kind of cartel that keeps a floor on prices. Some die hards, as we know, will pay any price for a field hand's hand job. Some even marry them ffs. I think, like any other property market, pussy is location, location, location. And segmented. I would imagine the trike drivers are getting their rocks off for a bowl of rice and pak pak but others will wait to get that extra ££.
I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out.
I remember during the financial crisis of some years back a Brazilian hooker moaning to me that local European students were doing it for half of her rate and she had bills to pay. It is this sense of entitlement. If students will spread their legs for less, surely they all should. , But that is not how it works.
The Internet does not help. More punters and less bottom feeding as they all think they deserve a living wage for an hour's work.
One thing is sure. The price of internet pussy in Europe is nuts. Way over priced and bad quality. That is what giving women alternative options leads to.
Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich? It looks like an easy way to have Zorba kill you but who is to know?
It is sad to see the Philippines slip away. I have money but no honey.
WestCoast1
12-29-20, 23:44
Why are landlord jacking up rents? Is that to make up for previous losses in typical Asian fashion?
Welcome to Asia. Business going slow? Increase prices, that'll definitely attract more customers!Meant to mention this. RM spot on, nobody is renting, so spot on raise the rates. No different than any other product here.
Escort Fan
12-30-20, 05:07
I'm considering buying a condo in Manila for my retirement. What's up with prices? I don't understand how the market works.
As quality is so low, I'm only looking at premium stuff like Ayala Premier, or similar high end condos in BGC or Makati. But as my pension will be low and rents are high in manila I consider buying to protect myself against a possibly rising pesos in the next 10/15 years vs Euro. After all in the last 10/15 years it already moved from 70+ to 58 now.
When I check ads on property24 or or lumundi I see ads that are there for months with unchanged price, none of this makes any sense (as often in the Phils!). As Airbnb hope of returns were driving the market up, in those circumstances prices should drop but that doesn't reflect on ads.
So my question is how to know the "real" price of a condo? I can see 50 shades of me getting ripped off when buying a condo and it drives me crazy:).
Can you make good deals from second hand market from recent developments (10 ish years max) like let's say Gramercy or Park Terraces.
In Europe or USA you can access transactions databases, is there such thing in the Philippines?
Also most ads from developers seems to mention discounts if you pay cash. So I'm wondering what kind of discounts can you hope to get if you pay cash.
With many Chinese POGO gone, with Airbnb market crashing, and local workforce being paid low wages, I really don't see what could keep such high prices, especially since so many news condos are always being built.
The only market segment that must still be relatively solvent must be philam!
Thailand followed that maxim for many years. I guess there is a kind of cartel that keeps a floor on prices. Some die hards, as we know, will pay any price for a field hand's hand job. Some even marry them ffs. I think, like any other property market, pussy is location, location, location. And segmented. I would imagine the trike drivers are getting their rocks off for a bowl of rice and pak pak but others will wait to get that extra .
I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out.
Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich? It looks like an easy way to have Zorba kill you but who is to know?
It is sad to see the Philippines slip away. I have money but no honey.Yes as corrupt as the PI is now, there is always room for more corruption. In regards to the urban myths, I once had an old retired Sailor tell me a story of how back in the 50's his ship was in Greece and he wanted some but didn't have any money so he told the hooker he was the Captain of the ship and she could have it if she gave him some. He did it and ran back to the ship. I figure there is some old ancient Greek hooker out there at one time claiming she owned a US Navy vessel.
Has anyone experienced urban myths like those parts of Greece where hookers will bonk for a bite of a sandwich?Not PI but I arrived in Asia just as the Asian Financial Crisis was hitting full swing and local currencies were collapsing vs the USD by well over 80% There was no such thing as Short Time. LT was pick her up anytime one day and return her anytime the next day for $7. For an extra $1 you got the weekend rate: collection any time after work Friday and return her in one piece on the way back to work on Monday morning. Services included fuktoy, house cleaning and anything else required. There was no limit to what you could ask for. The only requirement was that she had to be fed. The girls would tolerate part payment, any deviant act imaginable or being old and ugly but WW III would erupt if they weren't fed. 😁.
I remember those days fondly.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. I forgot the girls that offered a bulk buy discount. For $2 you got a quicky, normally in the bed of a pickup, but you had to bring 4 buddies. I wonder if the 5th got a discount?
At $10 an hour she was doing really well vs her sisters. She didn't get a meal though. 😎.
No, these are not myths. They were reality during the late nineties.
Escort Fan
12-30-20, 16:21
No, these are not myths. They were reality during the late nineties.Times have changed. When I first came to the PH in the early 2000's everything was possible, it was a land of opportunities!
During my recent stays, I've talked to so many "models" that wouldn't get out of their beds for a 10 K dinner date!
I was so shocked to see those girls turn so easily 10 K pesos which is about one month wage for a regular joe in Manila.
I wonder how much those girls make in their modeling gigs and car shows.
Engine Driver
12-30-20, 18:16
I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.Mongers overestimate the contribution they make to the Philippines economy.
Even if the Philippines allows tourists, will your home country then allow you back in without a 2-week quarantine, even with a current vaccination certificate? That's the $64,000 question. We don't know the effectiveness of the vaccine, so no one can predict what the border opening rules will be.
Do you really want to be traveling around the Philippines with masks and shields and face the insurmountable, illogical rules being applied daily by petty bureaucrats? The kind of idiotic rules WC has to deal with daily. Doesn't sound like a fun holiday to me.
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I recently posted about Grandma Libby in Bristol, England charging 8000 PHP per hour to eat her out..I saw this post and thought it was a joke, hence the nature of my reply.
Not sure how anyone could power through the fermenting bread smell, but to each his own. I guess.
Engine Driver
12-30-20, 20:19
Times have changed. When I first came to the PH in the early 2000's everything was possible, it was a land of opportunities!
During my recent stays, I've talked to so many "models" that wouldn't get out of their beds for a 10 K dinner date!
I was so shocked to see those girls turn so easily 10 K pesos which is about one month wage for a regular joe in Manila.
I wonder how much those girls make in their modeling gigs and car shows.There are thousands of these Filipina "models" plying their trade on IG. Seemingly average looking girls routinely have more than 100 k followers. I'm thinking WTF? With product endorsements, magazine shoots, YouTube channels, TikTok and the very lucrative Alua fans only site, they are making very good money. Many have social media experts managing them. Someone with 200 k followers could potentially earn USD $500 k a year. Back in the 1990's and 2000's, the poor Pinay could not reach customers beyond the bar where she worked. Now she has a global audience. Kinda like how Bezos' wealth has multiplied during the pandemic. Your 10 k peso offer for a root wouldn't cover their drinks bill after a photo shoot. Seriously wealthy mongers are taking them to exotic locations and showering them with shit from Louis Vuitton. Just look at their photos.
All is not gloom and doom. If you go on PL, there are bargains to be had and for general mongering purposes, that will probably suffice. These girls have never sat in a car, let alone been a model at a car show.
Supposedly there is going to be something on Apple phones that works like a digital wallet to prove vaccination.
Spain is going to track those who op out.
PI just banned more countries.
Oxford vaccine looks like it is going to try and make itself affordable and available for mass distribution. The China vaccine looks like will be available here too.
SinfullyKorean
12-30-20, 21:43
I tried looking through the first few pages of the Philippines forums, but couldn't find the answer to my question:
Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.
I've tried looking through the first few pages of the Angeles City forum, but most of the topics right now are about covid, best hobbying times, and condoms. I saw one guy post about 1500 peso hunting on dating apps, but don't know if those are realistic expectations for your average touring hobbyist.
I appreciate the help. I know some info on hobbying in Thailand (my last visit was 1 yr ago), US, and Mexico. So happy to share info if you need.
Escort Fan
12-30-20, 22:19
Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.If you're budget oriented like a harddiscounter AC is hard to beat for sure.
But if you're looking for quality value for money I think Manila is hard to beat *IF* you take the time to prepare you trip, and invest time in finding girls on dating app for ex.
If you're a PH virgin, I'd suggest 3/4 days in AC, 5 days in Manila and 4 days in Cebu.
Currently it's so hard to enter PH unless you're one of the lucky few with visa, (I read there is a cap of 2500 entries per day at NAIA) that you probably have time to prepare your trip.
WestCoast1
12-30-20, 22:23
Travel after vaccines. Maybe. Couple of articles, says to early to tell if recent vaccines will stop infection. These vaccines may stop symptoms only.
https://ca.news.yahoo.com/said-no-evidence-covid-19-115511010.html
https://www.abc.net.au/news/health/2020-11-24/do-coronavirus-vaccines-prevent-infection-or-disease/12905654
"At the moment I don't believe we have the evidence of any of the vaccines to be confident that it's going to prevent people from actually getting the infection and therefore being able to pass it on," Swaminathan told a virtual briefing, in comments reported by Axios. Swaminathan was responding to a question about whether vaccinated people should still be required to quarantine when traveling to countries with lower transmission rates. "I think until we know more, we need to assume that people who have been vaccinated also need to take the same precautions until there is a certain level of herd immunity that's been built in the population," she said.
And.
Moderna's chief medical officer, Tal Zaks, said last month that he believed it was likely the vaccine would prevent transmission but warned that there was not yet "sufficient evidence" of it. "When we start the deployment of this vaccine we will not have sufficient concrete data to prove that this vaccine reduces transmission," he told "Axios on HBO." "I think it's important that we don't change behavior solely on the basis of vaccination."
I would think that countries like PI are struggling so badly that they would welcome westerners with open arms as long as they're vaccinated. The only bottleneck on travel at this point is worldwide vaccination and people's willingness to take it. Personally I hope we get a card that lets us travel freely. I'm really missing my bi-yearly two-week-millionaire trips to PI.Given the above, and the 'western' countries' considerably higher rates of transmission (and death, see US rates) and the above information, I would think PI would more wisely ban people from any country with a higher rate of infection, even the vaccinated, until it can be shown that the vax prevents transmission. Until it can be shown to stop transmission, the swab, mask, and social distancing will be "a thing".
Wicked Roger
12-30-20, 23:01
I tried looking through the first few pages of the Philippines forums, but couldn't find the answer to my question:
Where's the best to hobby (selection quality / price) in the Philippines? I'm guessing it's in Angeles City.
I've tried looking through the first few pages of the Angeles City forum, but most of the topics right now are about covid, best hobbying times, and condoms. I saw one guy post about 1500 peso hunting on dating apps, but don't know if those are realistic expectations for your average touring hobbyist.
I appreciate the help. I know some info on hobbying in Thailand (my last visit was 1 yr ago), US, and Mexico. So happy to share info if you need.Its there if you RTFF properly and look at the threads, make some notes and then PM a few of us / The hobbying at the moment is also discussed (are you surprised we speak about COVID19?) and there are even links and comments in when it may / may not be back to pre COVID19 days. There are discussions from some members incl myself on the best places and the ones we would not return to again. Plus chats on bars, prices, where to stay, even the cuties.
So there is plenty there if you want to RTFF and not go back 3 pages of the AC thread for example as we have Manila, Cebu, Davao, Duma, CDO, Baguio and everything in between each with their quirks.
And you do seem to ask a lot of questions (just a comment based on your FR history of 44).
Happy 2021 everyone. Hopefully won't be as bad as this year.
Member #4698
12-30-20, 23:34
Given the above, and the 'western' countries' considerably higher rates of transmission (and death, see US rates) and the above information, I would think PI would more wisely ban people from any country with a higher rate of infection, even the vaccinated, until it can be shown that the vax prevents transmission. Until it can be shown to stop transmission, the swab, mask, and social distancing will be "a thing".Moderna & Pfizer report that their vaccines are highly effective. Moderna is rated at 94% efficacy & Pfizer at 95%. The Astra Zeneca vaccine is rated at only 62% effective. Forget A. Z.
So, there is significant statistical probability that even a Pfizer vaccinated traveler with a recent negative Corona test result and no temperature upon arrival could be carrying the virus and infect the local population. That means the governments of the PI, Thailand, and Indonesia are not likely going to end their quarantines and start letting foreign travelers into their country until their own populations have been inoculated. They just ain't going to do it.
Now I don't know what the rollout timetable is for the PI, but Mini, my #1 in BKK, told me that the Thai government is telling its citizens that Corona vaccine inoculations will begin in BKK in May. So, if this roll out happens on time, it will still take months, maybe 6 months or longer for 60% to 70% of the Thai population to be inoculated and for the country to achieve 'herd immunity. " So, I am hoping I will be allowed back into the Kingdom (no quarantine) in October or November, but I wouldn't bet on it, ha ha, IE buy an Airline ticket just yet.
Closer to home, I am wondering when the fuck I will have the opportunity to get the vaccine in the good ol' USA. The higher ups in the US Government have stated publicly that anyone that wants a vaccine will be able to get one by May. Based on my age, I am thinking I might be able to get one by the end of March. I hope so because I am planning to fly down to Brazil in April, and I do not want to cancel that trip. Keep in mind that Brazil is open (no quarantine) now. I have friends that are there now and having a great time as I write this, IE fucking their brains out, but I am going to play it safe and wait until I get the shots. I know that they are 95% effective and thus are not 100% guarantied, but I can live with 5% risk. I am not going to live another year like 2020.
To sum up my tentative plans; Brazil in the spring 2021, Thailand in the late fall 2021, and the PI sometime in 2022.
Have a great 2021!
All is not gloom and doom. If you go on PL, there are bargains to be had and for general mongering purposes, that will probably suffice. These girls have never sat in a car, let alone been a model at a car show.Very true and often the Provincial Princess will be just as good looking as the Manila Model. Maybe without on point makeup or flattering designer clothes but that's a fair trade for no attitude and a fun demeanor. "You mean I can stay here all night?
I remember once passing out as an ink spot of sweat at 4 am, girly returning from the shower and asking "Was that ok?" More than OK sweety.
Enjoy, G.
Now she has a global audience. Kinda like how Bezos' wealth has multiplied during the pandemic. Your 10 k peso offer for a root wouldn't cover their drinks bill after a photo shootDon't forget that these girls are making AND burning through cash at a prodigious rate. Her willingness to accept the 10 k offer may be very variable and heavily influenced by her situation at that point at time. Just because the OP got a knockback once does not mean she will refuse again at some point in the future.
I know a promo girl in Cebu who eagerly accepted my standard 3 k LT offer once only to laugh me off the next visit.
Enjoy. G.
If you're budget oriented like a harddiscounter AC is hard to beat for sure.
But if you're looking for quality value for money I think Manila is hard to beat *IF* you take the time to prepare you trip, and invest time in finding girls on dating app for ex.
If you're a PH virgin, I'd suggest 3/4 days in AC, 5 days in Manila and 4 days in Cebu.
Currently it's so hard to enter PH unless you're one of the lucky few with visa, (I read there is a cap of 2500 entries per day at NAIA) that you probably have time to prepare your trip.Pound for pound I don't find Angeles any cheaper than anywhere else in the PI. I'd actually put as a more expensive place to stay.
Girls are cheaper in the provinces.
Equivalent quality hotels are cheaper in MNL and CEB.
Western food is plentiful but at near western prices and pretty low quality.
Having said that, assuming AC survives Covid, then it's a must do once for a newbie. The OP splitting his time between a few cities would be good. Cebu can take a little bit of time to find ones feet but it's the online hook up center of the PI and resembles shooting fish in a barrel.
Enjoy. G.
SinfullyKorean
12-31-20, 00:50
I mentioned I read through the first few pages (AC and Manila) to point out that I tried RTFF. If you don't find the answer you're looking for after looking through 6 pages worth of posts, I think it's acceptable to ask people who are more knowledgeable and active. No, I'm not surprised that people are talking about COVID. The only reason I mentioned it was to show yes, I did read, but did not find what I was looking for. I'm not sure what your level of acceptable RTFF is. I'm sure the info is there. But I didn't want to read through 10+ pages when someone else probably has an answer on the tip of their tongue. That person is obviously not you. Search features in these forums usually suck balls.
I'm not as active here because I don't travel as much as I'd like. I usually post when I'm researching a trip or coming back from one. Which is why I only have 44 posts.
Its there if you RTFF properly and look at the threads, make some notes and then PM a few of us / The hobbying at the moment is also discussed (are you surprised we speak about COVID19?) and there are even links and comments in when it may / may not be back to pre COVID19 days. There are discussions from some members incl myself on the best places and the ones we would not return to again. Plus chats on bars, prices, where to stay, even the cuties.
So there is plenty there if you want to RTFF and not go back 3 pages of the AC thread for example as we have Manila, Cebu, Davao, Duma, CDO, Baguio and everything in between each with their quirks.
And you do seem to ask a lot of questions (just a comment based on your FR history of 44).
Happy 2021 everyone. Hopefully won't be as bad as this year.
SinfullyKorean
12-31-20, 01:05
Thanks for the tip. I've done the trip to Vietnam and Thailand. Done plenty of homework before the trips to figure out the best watering holes and enjoyed both trips. Thoroughly enjoyed Thailand more due to the plethora of selections and venues (e. G. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya Walking St, etc).
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 – 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 – 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?
I've tried dating sites when I visited Thailand without much success. It was just much easier to go to the bars (esp Thermae Cafe) to find the girl of the night. I think the biggest problem with the dating apps was that I really didn't find many girls I was attracted to. And the ones I was attracted to were probably so popular, they hardly reply unless you have a really nice profile and / or opening message.
Pound for pound I don't find Angeles any cheaper than anywhere else in the PI. I'd actually put as a more expensive place to stay.
Girls are cheaper in the provinces.
Equivalent quality hotels are cheaper in MNL and CEB.
Western food is plentiful but at near western prices and pretty low quality.
Having said that, assuming AC survives Covid, then it's a must do once for a newbie. The OP splitting his time between a few cities would be good. Cebu can take a little bit of time to find ones feet but it's the online hook up center of the PI and resembles shooting fish in a barrel.
Enjoy. G.
Thanks for the tip. I've done the trip to Vietnam and Thailand. Done plenty of homework before the trips to figure out the best watering holes and enjoyed both trips. Thoroughly enjoyed Thailand more due to the plethora of selections and venues (e. G. Nana, Soi Cowboy, Pattaya Walking St, etc).
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?
I've tried dating sites when I visited Thailand without much success. It was just much easier to go to the bars (esp Thermae Cafe) to find the girl of the night. I think the biggest problem with the dating apps was that I really didn't find many girls I was attracted to. And the ones I was attracted to were probably so popular, they hardly reply unless you have a really nice profile and / or opening message.Very hard to generalize. You have 3 different areas, AC, Manila and Cebu which attracts 3 different mongers.
In addition since covid all previous bets are off. Not sure how any foreigner would get into PH now since the lock out.
Lots of conjecture but no facts.
Please detail what type of monger you are and what exactly you would like. I personally like AC and don't care for the other 2 areas for mongering.
SinfullyKorean
12-31-20, 01:24
Sure, fair question. These questions are for when travel opens back up. Probably later in 2021. I'm guessing there will be countries that allow easier travel once the vaccine is more readily available, and if people can show they were vaccinated. Of course that's conjecture. Anyways, the plan is to travel once things ease up.
I've visited Thailand 3 times in the past 4 years and loved the bar scenes there. Especially how intimate you can get and gauge interest / chemistry before selecting a girl and taking her to your hotel. I usually enjoy long time sessions at night and hit up soapland massages for daytime fun while I was in Thailand.
Most likely, I suspect my visit to PI will start in AC. I'll probably visit for 2 weeks, and head over to Thailand for a week. So maybe a week in AC, then a week in BKK, then back to PI, probably Manila. But I'll keep my plans flexible, and if I'm having the time of my life in PI, I probably won't hop over to Thailand.
This was similar to how I did my trip to Vietnam. Cut my time short in VN because I felt like the Thailand monger scene was livelier.
BTW, that price quote was for AC. I haven't looked up costs and venues in other areas yet. I'm still pretty early in my research.
Very hard to generalize. You have 3 different areas, AC, Manila and Cebu which attracts 3 different mongers.
In addition since covid all previous bets are off. Not sure how any foreigner would get into PH now since the lock out.
Lots of conjecture but no facts.
Please detail what type of monger you are and what exactly you would like. I personally like AC and don't care for the other 2 areas for mongering.
Sure, fair question. These questions are for when travel opens back up. Probably later in 2021. I'm guessing there will be countries that allow easier travel once the vaccine is more readily available, and if people can show they were vaccinated. Of course that's conjecture. Anyways, the plan is to travel once things ease up.
I've visited Thailand 3 times in the past 4 years and loved the bar scenes there. Especially how intimate you can get and gauge interest / chemistry before selecting a girl and taking her to your hotel. I usually enjoy long time sessions at night and hit up soapland massages for daytime fun while I was in Thailand.
Most likely, I suspect my visit to PI will start in AC. I'll probably visit for 2 weeks, and head over to Thailand for a week. So maybe a week in AC, then a week in BKK, then back to PI, probably Manila. But I'll keep my plans flexible, and if I'm having the time of my life in PI, I probably won't hop over to Thailand.
This was similar to how I did my trip to Vietnam. Cut my time short in VN because I felt like the Thailand monger scene was livelier.
BTW, that price quote was for AC. I haven't looked up costs and venues in other areas yet. I'm still pretty early in my research.First AC bar scene was never comparable to BKK bar scene. AC bars have been shut down since covid and may never come back the same. Current ones have converted to restaurant sports bar like operations with windows. No more skimpy bargirl outfits and dressed as waitresses.
I imagine your guess of ST and LT rates are in the ball park. I just don't know how you would make contact. Some say it is all online now.
There are economy hotels near walking street. Personally on my next visit I will live it up at ABC Hotel. I believe when AC opens back up it will be FL on walking street instead of inside the bars. The go to night club High Society has closed down for good on walking street. It used to have plenty of FL there. In all my years I have never been to HS, I am usually in bed with one or two girls by 11 pm.
I have no idea how the Manila or Makati bars will revive themselves.
You can YouTube Angeles City bars to get an idea of the previous layout.
I searched to see what costs are like in AC:
Short time: 1,500 2500 Peso.
Long Time: 2,500 4000 Peso.
Is that about right?That's about right for pre covid prices but remember that AC is notorious for runners and everything is prepaid before leaving the bar. You may have agreed and paid for a 4 k all nighter only to find the girl on her way out the door after one mediocre session.
Who knows what will happen post covid but I don't know anyone that is predicting a dramatic improvement in enjoyment levels nor pricing.
Reports of online and freelance successes vary tremendously. Some enjoy and use them a lot. Others find them a waste of time. Giving them a try is the only way to find out.
Mr Enternational
12-31-20, 04:13
Travel after vaccines. Maybe. Couple of articles, says to early to tell if recent vaccines will stop infection. These vaccines may stop symptoms only.
Moderna & Pfizer report that their vaccines are highly effective. Moderna is rated at 94% efficacy & Pfizer at 95%.
So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."
So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."The effectiveness of a vaccine isn't judged simply by whether you get sick or not from the disease the vaccine is intended to protect you from. With most vaccines you can still get sick, but the vaccine can still be deemed to be effective if it can successfully reduce and control the severity of the symptoms, preserve your life, and help prevent community spread. I had the flu last week, but it was very, very mild relatively speaking, and really didn't put me down at all. Thanks the to flu shot vaccine I took way back in September! I still got sick with the flu, but the vaccine prevented it from getting me downright in the bed sick. I had the antibodies in me to fight back effectively, and that's what it's all about.
WestCoast1
12-31-20, 05:40
So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
NB: Regarding the efficiency percentage (94%, 62% those numbers only regard if the vaccine keeps you from getting symptoms if you become infected. Assuming you do become infected and have the vaccine, you won't get symptoms, you become an asymptomatic carrier. You can still pass on the virus to others. Hence, from the perspective of receiving countries such as Phils or Brazil, your (and other travelers) having had the vaccine prior to entering Phils is not a big help to Filipino's. You don't show any symptoms, but you could easily be passing it on to everyone else. Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.
So much for that:
"A San Diego nurse who received the Pfizer vaccine during the initial rollout was diagnosed with a COVID-19 infection on Dec. 26, despite being vaccinated more than a week earlier. Matthew W. , works as an Emergency Room attendant in two separate Southern California hospitals, and only noted that after receiving the vaccine, his arm was sore but had no other side effects. Then, on Christmas Eve, following a shift in a COVID-19 unit, Matthew became ill, with symptoms including chills, muscle aches and fatigue. On Dec. 26, he tested positive for COVID-19."Need 2 shots 4 weeks apart to get reported efficacy.
Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.You could also be very, very right!
GoodEnough
12-31-20, 08:16
That's about right for pre covid prices but remember that AC is notorious for runners and everything is prepaid before leaving the bar. You may have agreed and paid for a 4 k all nighter only to find the girl on her way out the door after one mediocre session.
Who knows what will happen post covid but I don't know anyone that is predicting a dramatic improvement in enjoyment levels nor pricing.
Reports of online and freelance successes vary tremendously. Some enjoy and use them a lot. Others find them a waste of time. Giving them a try is the only way to find out.I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
GE.
I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
The Pfizer vaccine has to be given twice. The second shot has to be given three weeks after the first and then it takes one week more for the vaccine to be fully effective. Or 94% effective actually.
I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
GE.A valid point. I should have pointed out that my recent visit's sample size of Barfines is now very small. Actually one from one failures. Previous visits have included great BFs but they were many years ago.
However, all my online or freelance hook ups were as advertised and enjoyable.
The Pfizer vaccine has to be given twice. The second shot has to be given three weeks after the first and then it takes one week more for the vaccine to be fully effective. Or 94% effective actually.Meanwhile the human immune system is 98.7% effective. Your move.
Unfortunately there really is no one good source of advice. The WHO is closest to the best source for now.
Politics, money and CYA are tainting most previously reliable sources. Including the US CDC.
Most normal people would not be able to digest the scientific data released or even be able to analyze them to formulate some conclusions.
For now, I just follow whatever the rules are and try to live. I take calculated risks, as we al do.
The WHO just announced that we should prepare for a deadlier pandemic. There are some surfacing but have not spread.
Anyway. Happy New Year!
CheckMate1
12-31-20, 18:39
I would argue that this could be a one-off, a coincidence. Alternately, already doctors in the media are saying the nurse didn't have enough time for the vaccine to work. My question: How long is long enough? Another thought: If the vax is only 94% effective, then 6% of those vaccinated will still get the disease and get symptoms; hence making ME's case that Matthew is one of those.
NB: Regarding the efficiency percentage (94%, 62% those numbers only regard if the vaccine keeps you from getting symptoms if you become infected. Assuming you do become infected and have the vaccine, you won't get symptoms, you become an asymptomatic carrier. You can still pass on the virus to others. Hence, from the perspective of receiving countries such as Phils or Brazil, your (and other travelers) having had the vaccine prior to entering Phils is not a big help to Filipino's. You don't show any symptoms, but you could easily be passing it on to everyone else. Hence my argument that until herd immunity develops in Phils / Brazil, they would not be wise to allow entry to foreigners. I could be wrong.My understanding of the 94% and 95% effectiveness is after second shot. Why not just wait for both shots and then go?
Mr Enternational
12-31-20, 19:30
I find the "I'll give you a nice tip if we have a good time and you stay until breakfast" works well and I've never had a runner.
Why would you pay more to get what you are already supposed to be getting? Agreeing to not cheat a person if they give you more money is some mob extortion shit.
Soapy Smith
12-31-20, 21:49
Why would you pay more to get what you are already supposed to be getting? Agreeing to not cheat a person if they give you more money is some mob extortion shit.Extortion: "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. " Where is the force or threat when GE offers a tip? Waiters and waitresses hustle and go to some lengths to please diners because they anticipate a better tip. Following your analogy these wait staff are engaging in extortion. Are you opposed to tipping in restaurants? After all, we expect food to be served at our table simply by ordering.
Various AC mongers indicate they don't tip over and above the barfine. If this is so, then bargirls do not necessarily expect a tip, and so I assume they would be pleased with GE's proposition. If implying a tip is inappropriate, should mongers simply not mention running and instead wait with a club and beat the shit out of the woman when she tries to run?
Mr Enternational
12-31-20, 22:10
Extortion: "the practice of obtaining something, especially money, through force or threats. " Where is the force or threat when GE offers a tip?Well the threat is that she will leave early or not perform up to par. He made that clear in his post when he said this additional money will be for you following this protocol.
It is not really a tip if you are offering it to someone beforehand. It is a payment to get what you want, which the original payment was actually supposed to be.
If you tell the waitstaff please bring my food in a timely manner and make sure it is hot and make sure my drink is refilled and I will give you a tip; isn't that already what they are supposed to be doing seeing that is what their job is? You should not have to bribe them with extra to make sure they are doing what they are paid to do in the first place.
If I paid a guy to come work on my roof and he came to the house and just sat on his ass, I should not have to say if you get up and put the roof on and clean up after yourself I will give you a tip. That is ridiculous. So telling the chick well if you stay the entire time and you do what hookers are supposed to do then I will pay you extra is equally ridiculous. Extra should be paid for extra, not for obtaining what you are already supposed to be getting.
*Tipping in the USA is a totally different thing. It has come to be understood that you are actually paying the restaurant for the food and you will pay for the service separately in the form of a tip. The amount of this type of tip is generally contingent upon the consumer's perception of the quality of the service they received.
Wicked Roger
12-31-20, 23:10
New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading.
What I found more scary is the comment about undocumented Filipinos entering via Sulu who may have the new variant. Later in the article. Given that many pinoy seem to think fiestas etc are not part of the covid rules this is not a good place to be (many many pinay / pinoy friends bemoan all the times about the 'hard headed' nature of their compatriots!
Am this is not new news to those with blue blues who dream that all is well with the county.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/world
WestCoast1
12-31-20, 23:20
Meanwhile the human immune system is 98.7% effective. Your move.98.7% effective in keeping you from dying. Not so much for keeping you from getting symptoms. The vaccines are much better at keeping you from getting symptoms than your immune system. Most of us would rather avoid having fever, loss of taste, lingering symptoms, hence the vaccine.
My understanding of the 94% and 95% effectiveness is after second shot. Why not just wait for both shots and then go?So, you get both shots, and are included in the 94% of the folk who will not get symptoms. Good for you. However the vaccination does not stop you from contracting Covid and becoming an asymptomatic, infectious to others (bad for everyone else around you). The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.
However the vaccination does not stop you from contracting Covid and becoming an asymptomatic, infectious to others (bad for everyone else around you). The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.Great response Westie. I would also add that a recent article in Lancet on Covid transmission in Singapore showed that there is probably some transmission by people who are asymptomatic. However, the rate of transmission by people who are asymptomatic appears to be around 30% of the transmission rate for Covid patients with symptoms. If this is true then asymptomatic people would not have a transmission rate high enough for the virus to sustain itself.
Soapy Smith
01-01-21, 00:56
Well the threat is that she will leave early or not perform up to par. He made that clear in his post when he said this additional money will be for you following this protocol. This argument is silly on its face. I regret having replied to your earlier post.
The disease and vaccines have not been around long enough, with enough people vaccinated, to determine if the vax also stops transmission to others.Uh-huh. When a false sense of security is better than non at all, get the jab.
98.7% effective in keeping you from dying. Not so much for keeping you from getting symptoms. The vaccines are much better at keeping you from getting symptoms than your immune system. Most of us would rather avoid having fever, loss of taste, lingering symptoms, hence the vaccine.
....I would take getting the symptoms and feeling like a bag of shit for a couple weeks if I knew I would live through it.
I will take the vaccine as soon as it of available to me, even if it costs a pile of pesos to get as a foreigner in country and jump the queue.
I would much rather have 20 p less than leave an extra 20 k p to my kids.
I had said in other forums that give it until Fall 2021 and things will get better. Lo and behold latest from Dr. Fauci was that he expects the US to start to return to normal until near the end of 2021. In other words, the Winter Games in Beijing will go on as expected and the international flights will start back in full swing making their Asia rounds, and other variants of COVID will be deemed more transmissible but less deadly (I. E. A bad cold). As we continue on down the road in 2021 we will see more organizations and governments start moving in this direction.
Don't get me wrong, not trying to say this whole thing is a hoax, lost a few folks I knew, but the approaches that have been taken leave me to be suspect on a few things. I. E. They were not doing as best as they could while Trump was in office but now that he's out, look at this we have a clear way ahead but if he would have mentioned, it nothing but claims of a hoax, etc.
I hope Fauci is right, the vaccines work and people can start back getting to normal, but quit playing around and give us the truth and let us decide what we need to do.
SinfullyKorean
01-02-21, 02:12
It's funny. And just like that, US is banned from Philippines. Seems like this is due to the new more contagious covid strain.
New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading.
What I found more scary is the comment about undocumented Filipinos entering via Sulu who may have the new variant. Later in the article. Given that many pinoy seem to think fiestas etc are not part of the covid rules this is not a good place to be (many many pinay / pinoy friends bemoan all the times about the 'hard headed' nature of their compatriots!
Am this is not new news to those with blue blues who dream that all is well with the county.
https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/world
WestCoast1
01-02-21, 03:02
New list from the government as to who is barred from entering. Only 15 days but the absence of USA, Brazil and India is odd given these are some of the worst (incl UK) countries for COVID and the new variant is spreading. https://www.arabnews.com/node/1784736/worldAnd, from the US State Dept:
Health Alert for U.S. Citizens in the Philippines: Bar on Entry of Travelers from the United States
Starting Sunday, January 1, 2021 at 12:01 a.m., the Philippines will temporarily ban the entry of travelers from, or who have transited through, the United States. Passengers coming from the United States or who have transited through the United States who arrive before Sunday should be allowed to enter the Philippines, but will be required to complete a 14-day facility-based quarantine regardless of their RT-PCR test result.
The Philippine government has also suspended all flights from the United Kingdom and will bar entry to travelers originating or transiting from the following locations: the United Kingdom, South Africa, Switzerland, Italy, Denmark, Israel, Hong Kong, Spain, Ireland, the Netherlands, Singapore, Lebanon, Japan, Canada, Germany, Sweden, Australia, France, Iceland, and South Korea.
WestCoast1
01-02-21, 03:20
Previously I was in contact with a lady from a dating site. Older, 50's. In chat she would video call from her home, a beautiful place. She was not in need of money, just looking for love. I was surprised she contacted my profile on the site, as it was very playboy-ish and extremely non-commital: "I am not looking to get married again". For a few chats, just some general chat about life. One day she just outright asked if I was chickboy and I said yes. "You have many pilipina before?" Yes. "When you are coming here next?" Two weeks. Would you like to have a cup of coffee with me? "No, I will not have a date with a playboy. But thanks you asked me". Sure. "Can I ask?" Yes ma'am, ask. "When you are here next, please get one girl only". Interesting, why do you ask this of me? "Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". I see. Thanks for sharing with me. "Will you do it?" Sorry ma'am, I am a playboy. "OK. Take care there". Same, ma'am.
Two weeks later I was in Cebu, 30 minutes from her home. One of my regulars wanted to refer a new girl to me. We met for coffee: Me, the regular, and the new girl (age 28, great smile). After coffee and chat I took the new gal to my place (regular went home). The regular, who is paid talent, never mentioned me giving money to the new girl. After a great 2-round first session with the new gal, after the shower, we were dressed and sitting on the bed. The new gal put her hand on mine and said: "So". Nothing more. Sh*t, is that the hint to cough up something blue? Before I could say anything she said: "I go now". She asked for my number and we exchanged. Then she walked out the door, no money was mentioned or exchanged hands.
An hour later she txt: "Thanks today". Yes, sweetie, same. It was tempting to ask if she expected money. She txt: "Can I see you again?" Yes, lets coffee again, Wednesday, same place, 1 pm? "OK see you then". Great. When we met for coffee, I just asked: Why did you go with me to my place after coffee a few days ago? "Lynn says your good to it". Good to what? She smiled and quietly mouthed the word "F*cking". That's why you went with me? "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK". Not money then. "No and please don't try to give". Check. She became a 2-year on / off regular.
"Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". And: "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK".
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.
SinfullyKorean
01-02-21, 03:57
LOL. Thanks for the shits and giggles.
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.
Previously I was in contact with a lady from a dating site. Older, 50's. In chat she would video call from her home, a beautiful place. She was not in need of money, just looking for love. I was surprised she contacted my profile on the site, as it was very playboy-ish and extremely non-commital: "I am not looking to get married again". For a few chats, just some general chat about life. One day she just outright asked if I was chickboy and I said yes. "You have many pilipina before?" Yes. "When you are coming here next?" Two weeks. Would you like to have a cup of coffee with me? "No, I will not have a date with a playboy. But thanks you asked me". Sure. "Can I ask?" Yes ma'am, ask. "When you are here next, please get one girl only". Interesting, why do you ask this of me? "Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". I see. Thanks for sharing with me. "Will you do it?" Sorry ma'am, I am a playboy. "OK. Take care there". Same, ma'am.
Two weeks later I was in Cebu, 30 minutes from her home. One of my regulars wanted to refer a new girl to me. We met for coffee: Me, the regular, and the new girl (age 28, great smile). After coffee and chat I took the new gal to my place (regular went home). The regular, who is paid talent, never mentioned me giving money to the new girl. After a great 2-round first session with the new gal, after the shower, we were dressed and sitting on the bed. The new gal put her hand on mine and said: "So". Nothing more. Sh*t, is that the hint to cough up something blue? Before I could say anything she said: "I go now". She asked for my number and we exchanged. Then she walked out the door, no money was mentioned or exchanged hands.
An hour later she txt: "Thanks today". Yes, sweetie, same. It was tempting to ask if she expected money. She txt: "Can I see you again?" Yes, lets coffee again, Wednesday, same place, 1 pm? "OK see you then". Great. When we met for coffee, I just asked: Why did you go with me to my place after coffee a few days ago? "Lynn says your good to it". Good to what? She smiled and quietly mouthed the word "F*cking". That's why you went with me? "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK". Not money then. "No and please don't try to give". Check. She became a 2-year on / off regular.
"Well to our people sex is a sacred thing. One man and one woman". And: "Yes. Sport. Its good. I know you have other girls, its OK".
Love. Money. Sex. Sacred. Sport. < < < - - - Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Have great 2021.True, not all want money. All the same I give some. Do not want anything for free in other countries.
Like all girls they want to know who you are. So asking questions about you is normal. Unless it is a bargirl dating site girls do ask lots of questions. After all that some leave and others stay. I believe it is better to be honest and let them know your intentions.
I had said in other forums that give it until Fall 2021 and things will get better. Lo and behold latest from Dr. Fauci was that he expects the US to start to return to normal until near the end of 2021. In other words, the Winter Games in Beijing will go on as expected and the international flights will start back in full swing making their Asia rounds.While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.
Wicked Roger
01-02-21, 23:55
And, from the US State Dept:
Health Alert for U.S. Citizens in the Philippines: Bar on Entry of Travelers from the United States
Yes Westie saw that the day after and did not mention my bad.
I read this link.
https://thehill.com/policy/international/532312-us-travelers-banned-from-philippines-starting-sunday
Messy but to be expected for a country that in some parts denies the virus, in other parts does nothings serious about it while others do their hardest. I can't / won't visit my family in USA because of this either.
PedroMorales
01-03-21, 00:10
While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.This is an informed post you make. The mother of all shake ups is on the way. The Philippines has banned flights from the USA: this is a big deal as the Philippines likes to rim the USA.
Here in civilised Europe, things will change too as no one can keep taking losses. Ryanair is trying to expand further (it has big cash reserves). It is banking on a summer 2021 return and pimping the alleged vaccines. But the cost of vaccines and tests messes up their cheap as chips model. I expect only those airlines with major Government / defence back up to survive and shaft everyone. BA and Air France in Europe. Some big Mid east ones too and the Chinese The USA, who is to say?
If I am right, then less tourists but more premium ones, paying a lot more than now.
The Philippines is perhaps the wrong place to say this. But imagine you are pimping the Taj Mahal, some BS casino or working girl house. Keep the riff raff out and make the rest pay through the nose. Just drop the McDonalds / Jolibee model.
Actually prostitutes make my point perfectly. Most of them come from the slums but some can doll up, go easy on the yabba and charge a premium. It always amazes me I can get some tradesman to install a boiler, rewire a house, whatever and some slum lady wants as much simply to spread her legs and think of her trike toy boy as I pump my seed into her for short time. Though I get a laugh browsing the classier sites to see what kind of hobbies they have (art galleries, knocking back French wines), they ain't doing it on my dime. I have known slum hookers in both Thailand and the Philippines who hit it big. Some folk will pay a premium, no question. Those folk will have their vaccinated bums on seats no matter what the cost as soon as they can.
A good, thoughtful post.
While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.
SinfullyKorean
01-03-21, 01:43
My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.Exactly. Airlines don't react on the spot. They prepare with forecasting models. They're already preparing for domestic flights. And most likely, they'll be ramped up when international travel eases up. Airlines are itching to get more passengers. It'll be an interesting supply / demand scenario once international travel opens up again. Will there be the same number of travelers as before the pandemic? Will we have enough flights to meet demand? My guess is that airlines will want to maximize profits after suffering for so long. So they'll start ramping up at least a month or two before international flights open up again. Korean Air's already starting to do this.
Mr Enternational
01-03-21, 02:20
He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, because advance booking for spring and summer were showing a big surge in demand. This is just domestic air travel in the US.I doubt there is much truth in what they told him. The CEO just sent out a memo saying how low demand is. The truth is more like 1) they are placing hope in the vaccine to increase bookings. 2) they are just being able to put the 737 Max back in service and they do not want them sitting around. He does not by chance fly the 737 does he?
While I too think Nov-Dec 2021 might see easier international travel it's unlikely to be a pleasant tourist experience.
Flights are NOT returning to normal with a flick of a switch. It will take years for forward bookings (and confidence) to return to travel. Also have the small problem of the airline industry needing to retrain groundies and pilots. For every pilot they need 10+ simulator hours to get currencies. Simulators will be the limiting factor regardless of demand and so airlines will be forced to charge higher prices. Then there will be the uneven coverage of vaccine where return travel from Philippines will be uncomfortable as our home countries may still treat us a a threat.Yes it will take some time for them to spin back up with all of the recalls and simulator time required, but if they are given a date, say Fall 2021 then they can start forecasting and knowing when to start calling back crews and getting them up to speed. Just like in my Navy days before a carrier deployed, we would spend days and weeks on end going around in circles of the coast to CA doing all of the required carrier quals for take off and landings for the aircrews and ground crews before we headed out west. Same thing for the airlines. I predict, look at the bookings and flights available starting after April and you can see that what Fauci says, will probably happen.
Mr Enternational
01-09-21, 14:05
My son-in-law is a pilot for American Airlines. He got called back a couple of weeks ago from being furloughed in October. When they called him, he asked if this was due to the recent money given the airlines by congress. He was told that the airline was calling people back anyway, despite what congress was doing, "But strangely, with the pandemic still limiting air travel to roughly half of what it was a year ago, many of these returning American Airlines employees don't have jobs to perform."
https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/american-airlines/article248312445.html
"But strangely, with the pandemic still limiting air travel to roughly half of what it was a year ago, many of these returning American Airlines employees don't have jobs to perform."
https://amp.star-telegram.com/news/business/aviation/american-airlines/article248312445.htmlAmerican cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March).
If AA planned to fly those recalled pilots (who will return as First Officers) they would put an immediate stop to training Captains to be First Officers, and start training some active First Officers to be Captains.
I pray things turn around quickly, but the worse days are still ahead of us.
American cut it's flying by over 50%. Yet they kept about 80% of pilots on payroll. They have more than enough active pilots to cover any possible increase in flying this year. Recalled pilots should plan to be back on the street when CARES 2 runs out (March)..I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.
Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.
I am so happy I decided to avoid the Boeing 737 family, especially after today's repeat of another 737 crash in Indonesia.
Flying will be interesting when flights start ramping up with previously idle planes maned by idled pilots.The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-airplane-factbox/factbox-details-of-airplane-and-airline-in-indonesia-crash-idUSKBN29E0M2
I'm hoping against hope I'll be able to get out to the Philippines at some point this year. Probably more realistically next year. I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene.
So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?
Realize it's bad form to ask for information without contributing. Have experience with mongering in the UK, Middle East, parts of Europe, so will be keeping an eye out and commenting when I can.
I'd like base myself somewhere with the best chance of cultivating the non and semi pro girls. Not really big on the bar and club / streetwalker scene..I've found that how you act is far more important than where you are. If you don't like bars and clubs then the answer is simple: don't go there. Assuming you are reasonably presentable and respectful it's not difficult to meet girls and get their numbers in shops, markets, banks etc. Of course there is also online.
All the places you listed have both hard core red light and quieter areas. Just pick those that you prefer. Provincial areas can be much more relaxed but do take some time to settle in and connect with local girls.
Enjoy. G.
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So, I figure I'm better of avoiding Manilla / Angeles / Subic Bay. I hear Cebu City mentioned a lot (and have read reports from there on semi / no pros.) Would anyone recommend somewhere else?
......Best source of non pro's / regular girls is to make friends with local guys. They all have sisters.
Thanks Kabul, Goferring.
I've had a quick play on PinaLove for research, plenty of interest from the pros and non-pros (or, not as overt pros) as soon as I put up a picture. (Such a handsome guy like me, haha) I'm in my early 30's, white, in shape. But average looking.
Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros (didn't want to invest too much time, go to Whatsapp or be able to suggest a meet), but the obvious working girls were agreeing to literally anything and everything for less than the price of a pack of cigarettes in the UK.
Times must be pretty tough out there.
The type of plane that went down within the last 24 hrs is different mechanically and technologically than the plagued "737 Max". The problem is that is part of the "737 family of planes "so all the general public will care about is that it was a "737". Boeing just needs to completely re brand its product line to disassociate from the name carrying the stigma.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-indonesia-crash-airplane-factbox/factbox-details-of-airplane-and-airline-in-indonesia-crash-idUSKBN29E0M2The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew. Better to blow money that way than to start paying out millions more in lawsuits, that is if one can sue like they do in the USA in some of these places. Better to show that they had some time at least flying in the air if only for practice than not having flown.
Mr Enternational
01-11-21, 19:19
The smartest thing for these airlines to do is to start recalling crews (both air and ground) and pay them a reduced fair if they have been laid off and get them back up in the air when possible to keep proficiency up, simply to avoid the possible legal actions that may come their way if they find out this accident was caused by lack of training / airtime for the crew.It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.
It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.They can maintain qualifications by watching YouTube videos. Before someone goes a rant, I am only kidding!
Couldn't get anywhere with the non-obvious pros....Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.
It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.I assume you are not a commercial airline pilot or a pilot at all? Western airlines have a much higher bar than for someone just to throw a few switches. A pilot without a job is not going to afford simulator time to retain any ratings. As of now, every A380 qualified pilot is un-current on type. It will cost the same to make them current again if they haven't flown for 3,6,18 months, so no need to retain currency. The airlines will be planning this as a start-up cost for bring aircraft and crew back online.
To get this back on topic. I do know there was a Qatar captain that used to jet in / out of Ph and maintain a very pretty girl. She was a former AC freelancer whom he took out of the market. She would post pics pf herself swanning around the globe in business class and major cities. Good for her as a 21 year old. I deleted her from my fb friends as I couldn't compete with that.
Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.I did manage to set my profile showing that I was in Cebu, but they might have been able to see around that. I suspect it's as you say. They grew suspicious after the chitchat back and forth, refusal to give WhatsApp (citing privacy issues) and me not suggesting meeting for a coffee. More than half immediately stopped talking when I wouldn't give them Whatsapp, some of the obvious pros too.
From reading the forum, it would seem the approach with the true non-pros is meeting for a drink close to your accommodation, then moving it there with no discussion of money unless they bring it up. (I have no intention of not 'paying for their taxi' with the going rate, if things go well and they don't ask, which I've read happens or indeed, leading them to believe it's anything more than a STR) Similar strategy as I've used on seeking.com girls in the UK. Don't treat them like working girls, but don't bullshit.
I was more just testing the waters / torturing myself / keeping myself entertained in quarantine. As you say, not worth pursuing until I'm on the ground. Profile was only live for a day or two.
As soon as possible, I'll be there. A place where I can spend the day flirting and trying to get nubile 19 year olds in the sack. And if all else fails, call a seasoned bargirl to my room at 2 am to cum up her arse for a tenner. Sounds like heaven. Fantasy that I'm sure doesn't match the reality exactly. But stuck where I am, nothing else to entertain.
Again, cheers for your help. I'll keep RTFF.
Just wait until you are physically in town. The pretty girls hear a million promises every day and know 99.99% is BS. The non pros actually have shit to do and don't need to waste time on every John that propositions them.
"I'm in Ayala. Let's meet for coffee after you finish work" has a much greater response rate than "I'm in Nebraska. Let's hook up if the pandemics stops, if the borders reopen, if I come to PI not LOS, if I call you and not one of the other 100 girls I know, if I get time off work, if I actually buy a ticket and show up".
Enjoy. G.That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.
WestCoast1
01-12-21, 02:43
That's funny right there, I don't care you you are, that there is funny.Larry the cable guy?
More than half immediately stopped talking when I wouldn't give them Whatsapp, some of the obvious pros too....
From reading the forum, it would seem the approach with the true non-pros is meeting for a drink close to your accommodation, then moving it there with no discussion of money unless they bring it up....
As soon as possible, I'll be there. A place where I can spend the day flirting and trying to get nubile 19 year olds in the sack. And if all else fails, call a seasoned bargirl to my room at 2 am to cum up her arse for a tenner. Sounds like heaven....
Again, cheers for your help. I'll keep RTFF.You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
For non pros expect a platonic first date possibly with a chaperone friend tagging along. No need for a Michelin Star restaurant but take her to a nearby cafe or eatery and play nice. If she orders food for 20 and wants to take the leftovers home, dump her and move to another: she was wasting your time. Don't be surprised if a good girl refuses payment or only wants true taxi fare of a couple of hundred. Again, play along and pay those that are looking for it but don't insist on making the freebies into hookers. Chocolates or a small gift from home is always welcome.
Get the sure thing hooker first then do the flirting and chatting. This will remove the look of desperation every new arrival has and the girls will be more relaxed.
Cheers. G.
You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
For non pros expect a platonic first date possibly with a chaperone friend tagging along. No need for a Michelin Star restaurant but take her to a nearby cafe or eatery and play nice. If she orders food for 20 and wants to take the leftovers home, dump her and move to another: she was wasting your time. Don't be surprised if a good girl refuses payment or only wants true taxi fare of a couple of hundred. Again, play along and pay those that are looking for it but don't insist on making the freebies into hookers. Chocolates or a small gift from home is always welcome.
Get the sure thing hooker first then do the flirting and chatting. This will remove the look of desperation every new arrival has and the girls will be more relaxed.
Cheers. G.More great advice, cheers. I removed myself from the apps / sites as dreaming what could be is far too painful! I formed the conclusion before even discovering this forum that trying to set anything up too far in advance is a waste of time. I'll more than likely not even sign up again until I'm sat in a PI hotel room.
Re the WhatsApp. My usual approach is to take conversations there as a lot of sites ban you if they detect stuff such as 'How much to cum in your tight little pussy?' But as you said, not an issue on Pinalove. Didn't want to go to WhatsApp as my number would have given the game away I was playing. In country already.
I wanted to confirm.
A: How easy it would be to get the kind of 'good girl' I'm interested in to meet me for 'coffee' and the implication of maybe more, without having to lie and say I'm looking for a wife / LTR. All good on that front.
And.
B: How much hard work / advance communication to get a pro. When I do get the urge to go down that route, it happens on a whim. I've been frustrated on trips to other places and in the UK how difficult it is to satisfy an urge for a properly filthy **** in the next hour at 5 pm in the evening, let alone at 1 am. I had more than a couple pros agreeing, at 1/2 am (PI time), to jump in a Grab I'd send them (tip I picked up reading here) and come to my hotel room right now, BBFSCIP, BBFSCIA and other perversions, short time, for 1000/1500 pesos. Whether it would have come of, I don't know. I suspect at least one would have. When I'm in that kind of mood, I don't want a particular girl (though obviously I'd have a preference), I just want to dump my load into the snatch of whatever girl I can get to me quickest. Seems good on that front.
For work reasons, I'm high priority for vaccination. So I'm holding out hope of a 'vaccine passport' opening up travel somewhat in the latter half of 2021. Or PCR testing and self-isolation. I'm in the fortune position that 10/14 days either side of a two / three month trip would be an annoyance, not a deal breaker. I suspect as you say though, a 12 month timeline is more realistic.
I shall continue my hunt for the Filipinas of the Middle-East.
It does not really work like that. You already have to keep your qualifications up every so often or you can not fly anyway. Most can also be done on the ground in an approved simulator as well. It is not as hard as you think. If you know how to fly then you know how to fly. You only need to obtain a type rating to be able to fly a particular plane over 12,000 pounds because of certain intricacies. The computer mostly flies the plane. And checklists are used to know when to flip which switches.If being a pilot was this easy, pilots would not be paid as much. If you know how to fly, than you know how to fly, but proficiency is affected by as little as one to two weeks off. You need a type rating for planes heavier that 12,500 pounds because you are flying a heavy cruise missile. You do the actions on a checklist before running the checklist; the checklist ensures you did everything. Hence the word "check" in checklist. There is much more to being a pilot than keeping the aircraft straight and level. That's what autopilots are for.
The 737-500 in this crash had very basic automation. I do not know if their pilots are given as much training as western pilots in upset recovery and stall recovery.
Yes, pretty much all training is done in the simulator nowadays. Taking a plane up for training and proficiency is too expensive. But in times like these, there is a huge training backlog due to limited simulator availability.
You're on the right track. Just got a few things ass backwards.
You need a WhatsApp regardless of if you are chatting from home or in country. Numerous reasons but the biggie is that the pretty girls get litterally '000's of messages per day on the apps. That's no exaggeration. Without WhatsApp your chat string will be lost in the masses and there is no way you will be remembered for the 12 months it will take you to actually arrive. If your concerned about messages being caught out back home then you have a second phone for play, right?
One key aspect of WhatsApp is if you get a number for an app like Hushed or you are in the USA and get a Google Voice number you can use that to set as your WA number vice your cell phone number. This is very important if you want to maintain some distance between home and fun. Better to get an Internet number with a different area code than your normal phone number to keep them off. Trust me, they will find a way once they have your regular number in hand to reach out to you.
They can maintain qualifications by watching YouTube videos. Before someone goes a rant, I am only kidding!Watching video was the step for a Boeing 737 pilot to fly the 737 Max.
I wanted to confirm.
A: How easy it would be to get the kind of 'good girl' I'm interested in to meet me for 'coffee' and the implication of maybe more, without having to lie and say I'm looking for a wife / LTR. All good on that front.
And.
B: How much hard work / advance communication to get a pro. When I do get the urge to go down that route, it happens on a whim....Good girls will be quite happy to meet for a coffee or similar. Converting that to a couple of hours of fun back in your hotel varies. Some will follow you back straight after the meal. Others will need a second date. One thing that is universal is that pinas are notorious for late- or no-shows. The easiest way to get around this is not to sit and wait for them to arrive. It could be hours. Just go about your normal day and tell them to message you when they have arrived. Then you can just go down and join them. Staying walking distance to a Mall or common meeting area helps here.
Pros take no work. I can have a girl in a taxi heading my way within 30 minutes of logging on. Especially after 10 pm. Just look for the telltales in her profile: suggestive photos, looking for guys 18 to 99 etc and just be forthright immediately upon chatting with her. In this situation I often ask aggressively sexual questions as it separates those on the game from the part timers. Good girls won't even reply, even in disgust. ANY reply, even pretend shock, will be from someone who will head over.
If you are concerned about traceable numbers, just get a cheap unlocked phone and buy a local sim at the airport. Dirt cheap and a local number shows the girls that you are allready in country.
Enjoy. G.
Mr Enternational
01-13-21, 15:37
I assume you are not a commercial airline pilot or a pilot at all? A lot of assumptions around here.
Re the WhatsApp. My usual approach is to take conversations there as a lot of sites ban you if they detect stuff such as 'How much to cum in your tight little pussy?' But as you said, not an issue on Pinalove. Didn't want to go to WhatsApp as my number would have given the game away I was playing. In country already.My Whatsapp hack is to download the Whatsapp Business app on my phone. I use a burner number on the WA Business app which I can freely give to the girls.
Both Whatsapp and Whatsapp Business will co-exist on the same phone.
The questions you are asking girls are irrelevant at the moment. A price on offer for a service that cannot be delivered is of no value. If you are going to be chatting girls now, use the time to exclude the easy ones and deepen your search and conversation skills.
In just a few days before your visit you can easily collect your paid dates. Use this wilderness time for cracking some new territory.
My Whatsapp hack is to download the Whatsapp Business app on my phone. What's the additional functionality or benefits of WA Business? The website is just full of buzzwords and jargon rather than a list of features. What are the real world advantages?
Thanks. G.
What's the additional functionality or benefits of WA Business? The website is just full of buzzwords and jargon rather than a list of features. What are the real world advantages?
Thanks. G.Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.
Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.I'm way too stupid for that. I can guarantee that there will be a time when I would have the wrong screen open at the wrong time.
Disaterous consequences to save $100. Separation is the whole intent of having a second phone and number.
Thanks. G.
AussieGaigin
01-15-21, 10:25
I'm way too stupid for that. I can guarantee that there will be a time when I would have the wrong screen open at the wrong time.
Disaterous consequences to save $100. Separation is the whole intent of having a second phone and number.
Thanks. G.I had that problem when I had a burner number on a dual SIM phone. Fine for receiving calls on either number, but too many times I would make calls without switching over. Quickly went back to having two phones, but the burner has permanent call forwarding to my normal phone.
Good question.
On my legit phone I have my legit number on Whatsapp and my 'burner' number of WA Business app. Functionality wise they are identical function for me. Means I don't need to access my physical burner phone once I have registered the number to WA Business app.Hushed is also great when you're trying to negotiate a girl's rates down / get her to do something not advertised 'BBFSCIP.'
In the UK recently, I pushed my luck a little too far with a girl I was desperate to see. 19 year old, pretty as fuck brunette spinner. She got pissed off and blocked me when I tried to push the price too low.
Three days later, knowing her price and that she'd do it, I got a different Hushed number and approached with a different patter / texting language. An hour late, I was cumming inside her.
I had that problem when I had a burner number on a dual SIM phone. Fine for receiving calls on either number, but too many times I would make calls without switching over. Quickly went back to having two phones, but the burner has permanent call forwarding to my normal phone.The advantage of using WA on a dual sim or with a number liked Hushed is once you register the number on WA, you can turn off the sim and still use WA via wifi or data. I actually had that issue once when I had a US prepaid sim in a phone I had bought and used it for WA and then I got another phone and realized I couldn't use that same number again since it was no longer active. But I had been using the app with no problems with it turned off, just couldn't reload.
The advantage of using WA on a dual sim or with a number liked Hushed is once you register the number on WA, you can turn off the sim and still use WA via wifi or data. I actually had that issue once when I had a US prepaid sim in a phone I had bought and used it for WA and then I got another phone and realized I couldn't use that same number again since it was no longer active. But I had been using the app with no problems with it turned off, just couldn't reload.Just don't try to do a reinstall from backups as you won't have access to the original number to receive the unlock key.
Whoosh. All old messages and images will be lost.
Don't ask me how I found that out.
G.
Engine Driver
01-17-21, 02:38
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.
Wicked Roger
01-17-21, 20:25
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.Given you current location this is somewhat of a hypothetical as you can't travel anywhere (and if you could it is unlikely you could back in a hurry even if you wanted to), Aussies are currently barred from the Philippines and by the time you get there she will be older, had a few pinoys and tita maybe 6 ft under.
You can ask whatever you like but no chance you seeing her and they won't hang around if you won't be there soon.
As for Illigan. Why go to a place you say / know is a possible ISIL hot spot?
Chocha Monger
01-17-21, 23:22
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.If you are willing to be chopped at the neck and below the waist for a root with this LBFM, she must be quite a looker. Please post her glamour shots so that more prudent men can admire her assets from a safe distance.
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.Ignoring the Covid considerations. You could do yourself a favour and fly tita and the girl to Cebu. You continue to enjoy your time in Cebu chasing LBFM and enjoying life, while they can catch buses, jeepneys, missed connection, un-aircon shit airport terminals, crap airline service, hourly health questionnaires probes etc etc If you do get a message that they actually arrive at Mactan, you have 1-2 hours while they get from airport to city. You change from your monger hotel to your alternate hotel.
For $200 you save yourself 2-3 days of pain.
The good news is by the time you do get to travel to Ph, you will be finished with her.
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.Spend the extra 300 and bring tita (and girlie) to CDO for a holiday. Have lunch then put her on the afternoon bus back home.
I'd agree that there are numerous smoking hot girls west of the Do Not Go line but at what price?
Of course, Roger is correct: it's an academic discussion until you can get into the country let alone her panties.
Enjoy. G.
Engine Driver
01-18-21, 06:32
Spend the extra 300 and bring tita (and girlie) to CDO for a holiday. Have lunch then put her on the afternoon bus back home.
I'd agree that there are numerous smoking hot girls west of the Do Not Go line but at what price?
Of course, Roger is correct: it's an academic discussion until you can get into the country let alone her panties.
Enjoy. G.Yes, I did think about that. I could get her Tita and sister to come with her to CDO to interview me. I will take the trio out for a nice seafood lunch at the Limketkai hotel. Tita would pack the left-overs into a take-out box. I would give them a box of chocolates from my country. Tita and sister would say what a kind and generous man I am. Fully satisfied, they would then fuck off back to Iligan on the bus at 3. 00 pm, leaving me alone with the girl for the next three days! No need to get my head chopped off by the Muslims. As WR has pointed out, it's all rather academic at the moment as no monger is travelling anywhere for the foreseeable future. Thanks also to CM for his unique perspective on things.
Yes, I did think about that. I could get her Tita and sister to come with her to CDO to interview me. I will take the trio out for a nice seafood lunch at the Limketkai hotel. Tita would pack the left-overs into a take-out box. I would give them a box of chocolates from my country. Tita and sister would say what a kind and generous man I am. Fully satisfied, they would then fuck off back to Iligan on the bus at 3. 00 pm, leaving me alone with the girl for the next three days! No need to get my head chopped off by the Muslims. As WR has pointed out, it's all rather academic at the moment as no monger is travelling anywhere for the foreseeable future. Thanks also to CM for his unique perspective on things.Even if you go to CDO airport, the actual city of CDO is 1 HR away. Total pain in the ass. New airport built way to far away. In any case, I would definitely recommend bringing her to you. Another point is it is very safe up there. The main terrorist areas are not up north of Mindanao, but rather in the south and SW. I was in CDO in Feb. 2020 and felt super safe.
Even if you go to CDO airport, the actual city of CDO is 1 HR away. Total pain in the ass. New airport built way to far away. In any case, I would definitely recommend bringing her to you. Another point is it is very safe up there. The main terrorist areas are not up north of Mindanao, but rather in the south and SW. I was in CDO in Feb. 2020 and felt super safe.Terrorism happens randomly. If you happen to be at the wrong place at the wrong time then you are the victim. Cannot be avoided even in big western cities.
In Philippines not all western men get kidnapped even in terrorism prone areas. For them it takes a long time to plan, target, scout, carry out the operation. For a casual visitor threat is very low.
If someone is scared of going next best thing is to bring the girl to where you are. I have brought many mindanao girls to Manila and Cebu. This has to be planned carefully. Need some work. Even then things can fall apart. Since flight tickets are cheap it is no big loss if the girl fails to show up.
Since the early poster seems to be serious about marriage and the girl and her family needs to meet him I would say he should make the trip. Usually girls family will protect him. But if he is going for fun only it is a problem. There is no need to meet family.
GoodEnough
01-18-21, 17:28
Has any monger been to Iligan City in northern Mindanao? It's 30 km north of Marawi, which is home to ISIL and Abu Sayyaf terrorist groups. There is no airport at Iligan. Closest airport is at CDO, then you need to get a taxi and drive the coastal route westward to Iligan, about 1 hour away.
The reason I ask is that that there's a nice looking chick in Iligan who wants to marry me. Pretty face, slim body, charming personality and actually has a job! Just wondering if it's worth the risk getting kidnapped by Muslim terrorists just to tap that cute ass?
I could ask her to come to CDO which might be safer for me and has much better hotels, but it seems I need to pass the dreaded Tita interview first.Yes, I've been there several times. The city is not generally considered very dangerous, though it doesn't offer much in the way of Western amenities. Most of the potential danger lies a big further West toward Marawi City. I'the have no qualms about going there again, but the other posters are, I think, correct: bring the girl to CDO which has much more to offer the average Westerner than does Iligan. It's not a long bus trip. I recommend not listening to fear mongers who in general have no idea what they're talking about.
GE.
Another point is it is very safe up there. The main terrorist areas are not up north of Mindanao, but rather in the south and SW. I was in CDO in Feb. 2020 and felt super safe.I agree with everything that has been said here. However, it's strange that CDO is the only place I've had where a girl who lives there warned me about safety in town and wandering around at night. She was perfectly fine with my comments about walking around town at all hours elsewhere but said it wasnt a good idea in CDO. Maybe a ploy to retain her as a guide / bodyguard? Who knows? But it's the only town where my penchant for walking everywhere raised concern.
Enjoy. G.
Daily Tribune.
The Philippine gov't sets conditions for entry of foreign nationals amid the new Covid variant. Starting Feb. 1, arriving foreign nationals should have valid and existing visas at the time of entry, except for those qualified under the Balikbayan program. These foreign nationals should also have pre-booked accommodation for at least 7 nights in an accredited quarantine hotel or facility. They shall also undergo Covid-19 testing at the quarantine hotel or facility on the 6th day from the date of their arrival. The Bureau of Immigration has been directed to formulate the necessary guidelines in this regard.
https://www.facebook.com/tribunephl/posts/2793856957492662
ABS-CBN News.
Posted at Feb 01 2021 08:19 AM.
MANILA. Foreign tourists remain prohibited from entering the Philippines, an official said Monday as the country lifted its travel restrictions on nations with reported cases of more contagious variants of COVID-19.
Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles told ABS-CBN's Teleradyo: "I would like to clarify, the country's not open to toruists. It does not mean tourists can enter, only those who have valid and existing visa like investor's visa, foreign spouses, children and others included in the Bureau of Immigration order. ".
Travelers are required to undergo coronavirus testing after 5 days of quarantine or on the 6th day after their arrival, Nograles said.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/video/news/02/01/21/foreign-tourists-still-barred-from-entering-ph-official
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