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PedroMorales
02-01-21, 08:37
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/petricic-brazil-covid-manaus-1.5891108?fbclid=IwAR23nKsiB7PI_ue7PTZ58tyFUHxS0Em0OrmtcekrhRITRzmjEZ8cXJD-n2o
Here is a Canadian article about Covid19 in Brazil, which has no 2 spot globally after the USA. It is one of the first articles I have seen that has linked Covid19 and poverty, which is usually a highway for diseases, plagues and pestilences.
I expect Covid19 to follow the HIV trajectory and cut a swathe through the world's poor who have no defenses. We still haven't learned why Iran, which has a relatively young population, was hit so hard early on.
What we do know is the Philippines and countries like it are going to get crucified. However, to the dirt poor, HIV and Covid19 are just one more inconvenience.
The Davos crowd are meeting now to reschedule the world and "protect the environment" through carbon taxes. The party is over. Goodbye, Philippines, I shall not return.
WestCoast1
02-12-21, 21:07
Sleeping beauty beside me; she doesn't rise until around 9 am. So I jump in a tryke a few days ago, 8 am, heading to a coffee shop across town to get us each a coffee. I am the only passenger in the tryke. Halfway into our 10-minute ride, the driver pulls over and two more passengers get into the tryke: A handsome young couple, age 20-ish. She is a real beauty: great figure, booby, nice clothes, great face, big eyes and smile. She's all smiles, and flirty with the young man. Her face mask is down under her chin. She yaps, smiles, yaps, and smiles. She gushes. I am liking their interaction perhaps more than the young fella. I've fallen in lust quickly: What does she look like naked and bent over!?
Always grateful for small pleasures, an additional pleasure: A few minutes later the driver pulls over and another young lass boards our ship to paradise. Same age, a tall hottie. The two ladies sit directly across from me, my knees an inch from the new gal's knees. She is quiet, po-girl clothes, pretending to look at everything but the rest of us in the carriage. I am wanting badly for her to pull down that mask for a minute so I can peek. But no. Wait. Maybe better for my imagination to run wild if she doesn't. What does THIS one look like naked and bent over (both with and without the mask)? Then: What would they look like together, naked, in my bed? What, is it my birthday?
Guess we will never know. While I was contemplating their beauty with my rising manhood, our tryke pulled in at its destination. We all stepped out. The couple got into another tryke. The tall hottie stepped into a third tryke. Me and my imagination/boner then walked/limped over to the coffee shop and enjoyed a cup of brew, contemplated rogering both of them, and grabbed another cup to take back to sleeping beauty.
A slice of paradise. Never know what you're going to get. Thanks Forrest!
Sleeping beauty beside me; she doesn't rise until around 9 am. So I jump in a tryke a few days ago, 8 am, heading to a coffee shop across town to get us each a coffee. I am the only passenger in the tryke. Halfway into our 10-minute ride, the driver pulls over and two more passengers get into the tryke: A handsome young couple, age 20-ish. She is a real beauty: great figure, booby, nice clothes, great face, big eyes and smile. She's all smiles, and flirty with the young man. Her face mask is down under her chin. She yaps, smiles, yaps, and smiles. She gushes. I am liking their interaction perhaps more than the young fella. I've fallen in lust quickly: What does she look like naked and bent over!?
Always grateful for small pleasures, an additional pleasure: A few minutes later the driver pulls over and another young lass boards our ship to paradise. Same age, a tall hottie. The two ladies sit directly across from me, my knees an inch from the new gal's knees. She is quiet, po-girl clothes, pretending to look at everything but the rest of us in the carriage. I am wanting badly for her to pull down that mask for a minute so I can peek. But no. Wait. Maybe better for my imagination to run wild if she doesn't. What does THIS one look like naked and bent over (both with and without the mask)? Then: What would they look like together, naked, in my bed? What, is it my birthday?.Geez I hope this was a jeepney and not a trike, Westie.
PedroMorales
02-13-21, 23:32
I went into kayak, a web scraping service, to see how prices for flights to LBFM land are going. They are still to high. However, the message below popped up. Why are Indians being allowed in? And Chinese dumb enough to marry a Pinay?
Entry restrictions.
The Philippines' borders are open only to returning Filipino nationals and their spouses and children, nationals of India with a Temporary Resident Visa, nationals of China with a Permanent Resident Visa who is spouse of a national of the Philippine, foreign nationals with certain category of visa.
Through January 15, travelers arriving from the following countries will not be allowed to enter the Philippines: Australia, Austria, Brazil, Canada, Denmark, Finland, France, Germany, Hong Kong, Iceland, India, Ireland, Italy, Israel, Japan, Jordan, Lebanon, the Netherlands, Norway, Portugal, Singapore, South Africa, South Korea, Spain, Sweden, Switzerland, US and the UK. Non-Philippine citizens transiting through any of the countries covered by the ban while en route to the Philippines should be allowed to enter the Philippines, provided that they can demonstrate that they did not depart the transit airport in the listed country, and that they were not granted entry by the immigration authorities of the listed country.
Starting December 7, the following may be allowed entry privileges to the Philippines under the Republic Act No. 6768: Filipino citizens' foreign spouses and children, regardless of age, who are traveling with the Filipino citizen and former Filipino citizens, including their spouses and children, regardless of age, who are traveling with the Filipino citizen.
Entry requirements.
Foreign nationals wishing to enter the Philippines must hold a visa under the following categories, otherwise they risk being turned away at the port of entry:
-a non-immigrant visa issued under Section 13 of the Immigration act (Section 13 series visa: / a, b, c, d, e, g).
-those who acquired resident status under Republic Act 7919 or Alien Social Integration Act (RA 7919 visa);.
-those who availed of Executive Order 324 or Alien Legalization Program (EO 324 visa).
-native-born foreign nationals (Native-born visa).
Starting December 7, Filipino citizens' foreign spouses and children, regardless of age, who are traveling with the Filipino citizen and former Filipino citizens, including their spouses and children, regardless of age, who are traveling with the Filipino citizen are allowed visa-free entry under Executive Order No. 408, s. 1960. They must have a pre-booked quarantine facility and COVID-19 testing at a laboratory operating at the airport.
Quarantine requirements.
All arriving travelers and airline crew must present a completed Case Investigation Form upon arrival. They will be tested for coronavirus (COVID-19) and placed in quarantine at their own expense, while awaiting the results of the test.
All other info.
Travelers arriving to Davao must have a medical certificate with a negative Coronavirus (COVID-19) test result issued within 72 hours before departure.
WestCoast1
02-13-21, 23:41
Geez I hope this was a jeepney and not a trike, Westie.Why a jeep, not a tryke?
Pinaypounder
02-14-21, 04:12
If you are willing to be chopped at the neck and below the waist for a root with this LBFM, she must be quite a looker. Please post her glamour shots so that more prudent men can admire her assets from a safe distance.I was there years ago, spoke at a University Conference in Illigan and actually overnighted in Marawi and spent some time on the Military Base there. I did have 4 body guards: a Colonel, Sargent and 2 Privates and was told by allllll not to go there alone.
During the trip the local bad guys murdered one of the Soldiers in a drive by, something they do, 2 guys on a dirt bike, they shoot the soldier to try to get the M16.
Interesting times!
PP.
Why a jeep, not a tryke?The number of passengers they can hold.
There are special trikes that have space at the back that can hold multiple passengers.
Similar to the one here https://www.japantimes.co.jp/news/2013/10/10/national/firm-seeks-to-market-e-trikes-in-philippines/.
WestCoast1
02-14-21, 08:46
The number of passengers they can hold.Curious DC's thoughts on this.
Everyone needs their computers worked on. Also, one way to be able to buy land or start business. Long History of Chinese merchants.
I went into kayak, a web scraping service, to see how prices for flights to LBFM land are going. They are still to high. However, the message below popped up. Why are Indians being allowed in? And Chinese dumb enough to marry a Pinay?.
WestCoast1
02-14-21, 23:21
Spoken to me by a drunk pinay recently: "The more drunker I'm get, the more f*cker I'm get. Yes it is".
Spoken to me by a drunk pinay recently: "The more drunker I'm get, the more f*cker I'm get. Yes it is".I love those seductive words whispered in to my ears!
WestCoast1
02-15-21, 05:50
I love those seductive words whispered in to my ears!Bless her drunken heart. We were listening to a live band, with those social-distance seats, with small tables for couples (1 or 2 persons) only. As the band was finishing a song she turned and said it to me loudly over the music, matter-of-factly, then she turned her head back to the band. 2 seconds later the song ended sharply. Thank goodness she didn't wait a few more seconds to yell that out loud.
And: "Yes it is". Bwahahaha WTF!
Curious DC's thoughts on this.OK, new one on me. I don't think I've seen the bigger ones but then again I haven't been there in 16 months. Trikes or jeepneys: I don't like any of them. Too small, noisy, dirty etc. Sometimes they are necessary. Cheers, Westie.
WestCoast1
02-28-21, 23:33
And in other news, its p48 to the USD here.
Hi guys,
I've been away for a long time.
So those of you that are updated, how are the prices nowadays in phili?
With that I mean food, drinks, hotels and ladies.
[QUOTE=DevCoder;2536049]Hi guys,
I've been away for a long time.
So those of you that are updated, how are the prices nowadays in phili?
With that I mean food, drinks, hotels and ladies.[/QUOTE
Same. Still payable in Philippines Pesos. Possibly in the near future Chinese Yuan will be accepted.
Pinaypounder
03-01-21, 14:52
Hi,
I am wondering if anyone here has experience or knowledge regarding renting some high end homes. Homes that are 300 sq m plus with pools types.
I am looking to rent one, the prices seem all over the map.
They are always looking for significant deposits some even 8 months which is ridiculous.
Are these places negotiable?
Any advice or pitfalls to worry about.
I have seen homes renting for 300 K a month who can afford these in the Philippines?
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
PP.
Hi,
I am wondering if anyone here has experience or knowledge regarding renting some high end homes. Homes that are 300 sq m plus with pools types.
I am looking to rent one, the prices seem all over the map.
They are always looking for significant deposits some even 8 months which is ridiculous.
Are these places negotiable?
Any advice or pitfalls to worry about.
I have seen homes renting for 300 K a month who can afford these in the Philippines?
Any input would be appreciated.
Thanks.
PP.What's sort of timeframe are you looking for?
Most longer high-end leases in expat gettos would strongly prefer a direct company lessee rather than an individual. That may be why you are being quoted 8 months upfront. This would be especially so if you are still outside the country.
300 k would typically be paid by a housing allowance and not out of someone's pocket. Hence the high price.
Everything is negotiable but it's not uncommon to see places like this sit empty for a long time just waiting for the right sucker / expense account to come along. For the right tenant some owners will do a lot of modifications. I've seen pools added, walls moved, gardens installed etc.
Do your normal due diligence. Lease from the owner and not the gardener's well dressed brother. Some of these areas can be new developments or older areas that are being refreshed. You don't want to be next to a building site for the next two years. Never lease off the plan or from photos. A physical inspection is a must do.
Good luck.
I have seen homes renting for 300 K a month who can afford these in the Philippines?
Any input would be appreciated.
You would also do well to investigate what your rent payments are going to be covering. The high-end gated community leases I have been involved with in Pampanga the renter is responsible for maintenance and repairs. That includes the aircon that breaks down after one month and the hot water tank that shit itself after 3 months.
Like all contracts in Ph, it is a one way system. You are expected to pay and very little can be expected in return. The people owning the properties are going to be elites.
Hi guys,
I've been away for a long time.
So those of you that are updated, how are the prices nowadays in phili?
With that I mean food, drinks, hotels and ladies.Prices for food and drinks will be less than your western country.
Hotels are cheaper than the west.
Ladies are still more fun and love fucking harder than the western girls your age.
So, nothing has changed.
JohnReter335
03-02-21, 00:47
Prices for food and drinks will be less than your western country.
Hotels are cheaper than the west.
Ladies are still more fun and love fucking harder than the western girls your age.
So, nothing has changed.LOL xD the perfect answer.
WestCoast1
03-14-21, 10:05
As previously mentioned, high condo prices. See pic, Malate, Birch Tower area (a block south of Robinson's Mall). Pre-covid typical prices for a studio were $500-$750 USD per month. Look now, typical is $1000-$1300. Screen shot from monthly stay check airbb. Initial prices show even higher. Example, a monthly cost since Covid might show a ridiculous $2000, with a '40% monthly discount', for an unusually high $1200. Some of the units listed on the first page have not been rented for even a night or two in many months. Worse, some Manila units now require a multi-months stay requirement (basically, a lease) at these prices.
IMFITP!
WestCoast1
03-14-21, 10:39
On vaccinations in Phils:
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/03/14/philippines-govt-relentless-in-acquiring-covid-19-vaccines-says-top-official
From the article, dated today:
"To date, the Philippines has acquired 600,000 doses of COVID-19 vaccine from China's Sinovac Biotech as a donation from the Chinese government. Another one million doses is expected to arrive on March 21.
The Philippines also got 525,600 doses from British-Swede drugmaker AstraZeneca. The first shipmentconsisting of 487,400 doses, arrived on March 4, while the remaining 38,400 doses arrived on March 7. ".
From the same article, regarding rollout:
"Rest assured that the Duterte administration has been relentless in acquiring these vaccines to ensure that the country will have a fair share of the doses," Galvez said in a statement.
He also addressed the perceived slow vaccination rollout, saying that the current supply is reserved for medical frontliners. "The inoculation of medical workers must be carried out in a deliberate manner. Considering the crucial task they perform, their vaccination must be done in batches in light of possible adverse effects and the impact on the manning requirements of health facilities," he said. "When all our medical frontliners and health care workers are inoculated and our country already has sufficient vaccine supplies, we shall significantly pick up the pace of our vaccination program," he said.
Wicked Roger
03-14-21, 12:58
As previously mentioned, high condo prices. See pic, Malate, Birch Tower area (a block south of Robinson's Mall). Pre-covid typical prices for a studio were $500-$750 USD per month. Look now, typical is $1000-$1300. Screen shot from monthly stay check airbb. Initial prices show even higher. Example, a monthly cost since Covid might show a ridiculous $2000, with a '40% monthly discount', for an unusually high $1200. Some of the units listed on the first page have not been rented for even a night or two in many months. Worse, some Manila units now require a multi-months stay requirement (basically, a lease) at these prices.
IMFITP!Am not surprised Westie.
In Cebu they increase condo prices every 6 months. When I asked why (as no buyers) they said it was 'policy'. I tried to explain supply demand and pricing but fell on deaf ears. Greed in some respects makes the condo owners think they can get higher prices.
I prefer to offer just below market rate and get the condo full / occupied all year. But some can't understand the logic.
As previously mentioned, high condo prices. See pic, Malate, Birch Tower area (a block south of Robinson's Mall). Pre-covid typical prices for a studio were $500-$750 USD per month. Look now, typical is $1000-$1300. Screen shot from monthly stay check airbb. Initial prices show even higher. Example, a monthly cost since Covid might show a ridiculous $2000, with a '40% monthly discount', for an unusually high $1200. Some of the units listed on the first page have not been rented for even a night or two in many months. Worse, some Manila units now require a multi-months stay requirement (basically, a lease) at these prices.
IMFITP!Any idea what the logic behind these absurdly high rental prices are? I imagine it probably goes something like, I haven't made any money on this condo for months! I have to double the rent to make up for it! With no consideration as to what demand levels might be.
MutantChicken
03-14-21, 14:25
Any idea what the logic behind these absurdly high rental prices are? I imagine it probably goes something like, I haven't made any money on this condo for months! I have to double the rent to make up for it! With no consideration as to what demand levels might be.Probably has more to do with the fact you are not as smart as you think, I would suggest this idea. Sure low general demand, but the people who are in need of such accommodation, IE foreign business people, westerners stuck there, westerners who are so horny that they arrived in spite of covid, they will have to pay such prices or the alternative is sleep in the street. These guys more than likely have the condo fully paid, so no big deal if its empty. Best analogy is that if you are hungry, you will work for the cost of a meal, if you are a millionaire, you won't get out of bed unless it was for big money. The millionaire knows that anyone that approaches him know that, is in desperate need of his skill set, so why work for pennies.
WestCoast1
03-15-21, 05:41
Any idea what the logic behind these absurdly high rental prices are? I imagine it probably goes something like, I haven't made any money on this condo for months! I have to double the rent to make up for it! With no consideration as to what demand levels might be.We have discussed the logic of this in the past. Not just with accommodations, but for other items where the price is increased when the economy is depressed. East-meets-West logic.
CenTexCrash
03-15-21, 06:03
Just wondering if American stimulus payouts ranging $1400-2000 is either obscure unknown info or common knowledge among the WGs, and if I need to be ready to fend off conveniently timed sob stories pleas on WhatsApp crawling out of the Pinay bushes
Just wondering if American stimulus payouts ranging $1400-2000 is either obscure unknown info or common knowledge among the WGs, and if I need to be ready to fend off conveniently timed sob stories pleas on WhatsApp crawling out of the Pinay bushesJust tell them you make too much money to get the stimulus check!
Seriously I doubt they are aware of it. Even if they hear about it they won't be able to comprehend it. Nothing to compare it to in the Philippines.
Mr Enternational
03-15-21, 13:27
Just wondering if American stimulus payouts ranging $1400-2000 is either obscure unknown info or common knowledge among the WGs, and if I need to be ready to fend off conveniently timed sob stories pleas on WhatsApp crawling out of the Pinay bushesWhat does a stimulus check have to do with them asking for money? Are they not aware that you already get money every so often from working or retirement? What do you plan on telling them that is different whether they know about the money or not? Just learn to say no. You do not need any excuses. Funny how guys can come here and say they spend their money how they want, but are afraid to say the same thing to a chick.
MutantChicken
03-15-21, 15:44
What does a stimulus check have to do with them asking for money? Are they not aware that you already get money every so often from working or retirement? What do you plan on telling them that is different whether they know about the money or not? Just learn to say no. You do not need any excuses. Funny how guys can come here and say they spend their money how they want, but are afraid to say the same thing to a chick.Style 1.
ISG mongerer: Hi baby how much?
FL: 4000 peso baby, St ok.
I'm: ok baby.
FL: For 6000 I love you long time I suck you cock like its never been sucked in your life.
I'm Ok baby.
Both go back to his hotel and both have a good time, later few hours I'm is sitting at a bar having a few drinks with his mates and he recounts his adventures and he ends it with this statement " This is why I love the Philippines, the girls treat me like a KING, I'm such a playa, that by tipping her a mere 1000 p, I ensure good service. I'm the pimp as its my money and I spend it how I want to get the kingly treatment. How he doesn't like to bargain hard as it spoils the service.
Style 2.
Mr E: hey baby, you come back to my hotel baby ok?
FL: How much you give me?
Mr E Same as always baby 1500ST.
FL Ok papi?
Both goes back to the hotel, both get down to doing the nasty.
Mr E: hew you call that a BJ? Baby that wasnt even 20 mins, you doing such a good job why stop?
FL, OK papi hihihi.
Few hours later Mr E is sitting at the bar, recounting his stpry asked how much he paid he said 1500, asked if he bargains he said nope, he got a decent BBBJ DATY, multiple positions and cheerful girl who is happy and left satisfied.
In my post we can see how much a a pimp / playa Style 1 is over style 2. Style 2 should be ashamed of himself, beinh so cold hearted and not giving the girl more or tipping her for her hard work.
Style 1.
ISG mongerer: Hi baby how much?
FL: 4000 peso baby, St ok.
I'm: ok baby.
FL: For 6000 I love you long time I suck you cock like its never been sucked in your life.
I'm Ok baby.
Both go back to his hotel and both have a good time, later few hours I'm is sitting at a bar having a few drinks with his mates and he recounts his adventures and he ends it with this statement " This is why I love the Philippines, the girls treat me like a KING, I'm such a playa, that by tipping her a mere 1000 p, I ensure good service. I'm the pimp as its my money and I spend it how I want to get the kingly treatment. How he doesn't like to bargain hard as it spoils the service.
Style 2.
Mr E: hey baby, you come back to my hotel baby ok?
FL: How much you give me?
Mr E Same as always baby 1500ST.
FL Ok papi?
Both goes back to the hotel, both get down to doing the nasty.
Mr E: hew you call that a BJ? Baby that wasnt even 20 mins, you doing such a good job why stop?
FL, OK papi hihihi.
Few hours later Mr E is sitting at the bar, recounting his stpry asked how much he paid he said 1500, asked if he bargains he said nope, he got a decent BBBJ DATY, multiple positions and cheerful girl who is happy and left satisfied.
In my post we can see how much a a pimp / playa Style 1 is over style 2. Style 2 should be ashamed of himself, beinh so cold hearted and not giving the girl more or tipping her for her hard work.Tale of me. Who gives a shit? Not me.
PedroMorales
03-17-21, 00:46
Seems the Philippines has found something to export in a new Covid 19 strain. Enjoy.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9368755/ANOTHER-Covid-variant-Philippines-spotted-two-people-England.html
Since I haven't been able to get to Phil due to Covid, I have spent a little more time little at the various dating sites dreaming of my triumphant return. My perfect Pinay is 5' and under, slim, and long straight black hair. That would be my go to for the first few days at least. After that, willing and needing to add some variety. In my observation, I am seeing more seemingly short girls, and the younger ones with more curves. I am seeing many more on these sites that I have seen before. Some of these, at least in the pics, have filled out in a good way, curvy, bigger breasts, etc.
Maybe the pandemic has made more of them even lazier and they're eating more? I don't know. Is any one else noticing this, especially those on the ground?
Since I haven't been able to get to Phil due to Covid, I have spent a little more time little at the various dating sites dreaming of my triumphant return. My perfect Pinay is 5' and under, slim, and long straight black hair. That would be my go to for the first few days at least. After that, willing and needing to add some variety. In my observation, I am seeing more seemingly short girls, and the younger ones with more curves. I am seeing many more on these sites that I have seen before. Some of these, at least in the pics, have filled out in a good way, curvy, bigger breasts, etc.
Maybe the pandemic has made more of them even lazier and they're eating more? I don't know. Is any one else noticing this, especially those on the ground?More likely from being locked down and no where to go. No more walking around and stuck in the small house. Probably a more rice diet and less meat and veggies.
I am finding a new crop of 18-19 year olds!
More likely from being locked down and no where to go. No more walking around and stuck in the small house. Probably a more rice diet and less meat and veggies.
I am finding a new crop of 18-19 year olds!Pinas have been gaining a pound or two per year for the last decade. However, yes the lockdown has: increased access to mom's cooking as girls moved back home; limited walking around with friends and other sporting activities and driven previously employed and well nourished girls to the apps as they lost their jobs etc.
If the OP is looking for 80 lb spinners, best to look at the provinces and stay away from Cebu and Manila. This is especially so if he wants them toned and not just malnourished. Access to 00's of JollieBees is not good.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
03-17-21, 22:24
Since I haven't been able to get to Phil due to Covid,Speaking of Covid:
United States Embassy Manila, Philippines
United States Consular Agency Cebu, Philippines
March 17, 2021
Health Alert: Temporary Ban on Entry into the Philippines and New Restrictions
The Philippine government has suspended the entry of all foreign nationals and returning Philippine citizens who are not Overseas Filipino Workers (OFWs), effective March 20, 2021, through April 19, 2021. The number of inbound international passengers will be further limited to 1,500 per day. For information on exemptions to the suspension, see our COVID-19 page.
Separately, the Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) is introducing new movement limitations in the National Capital Region for minors up to 17 years of age, effective March 17-31. Restrictions may vary by local government unit within the NCR. See the MMDA website for more information.
Locamotive
03-18-21, 03:27
Style 1.
ISG mongerer: Hi baby how much?
FL: 4000 peso baby, St ok.
I'm: ok baby.
FL: For 6000 I love you long time I suck you cock like its never been sucked in your life.
I'm Ok baby.
Both go back to his hotel and both have a good time, later few hours I'm is sitting at a bar having a few drinks with his mates and he recounts his adventures and he ends it with this statement " This is why I love the Philippines, the girls treat me like a KING, I'm such a playa, that by tipping her a mere 1000 p, I ensure good service. I'm the pimp as its my money and I spend it how I want to get the kingly treatment. How he doesn't like to bargain hard as it spoils the service..I read stuff like this usual don't even bother to respond, people are what they are. You are from the western world and have had a million more opportunities' and money than most of these people. 1500 vs 4000 what is that to you? I mean really what is that 50 bucks, which means nothing to you but the world to them. So cheating a 3rd world girl with probably a 8th grade education out of a few bucks makes you feel like "The Art of the Deal" World is full of heartless people I guess.
MutantChicken
03-18-21, 16:45
I read stuff like this usual don't even bother to respond, people are what they are. You are from the western world and have had a million more opportunities' and money than most of these people. 1500 vs 4000 what is that to you? I mean really what is that 50 bucks, which means nothing to you but the world to them. So cheating a 3rd world girl with probably a 8th grade education out of a few bucks makes you feel like "The Art of the Deal" World is full of heartless people I guess.This is the thing I elucidated to on the other thread. I said earlier that these girls survived before they met me, they were happily fucking their boyfriends for FREE, they were fucking happily locals for 500 p, as someone else mentioned they could be happily fucking the local divemaster for 500 p when bills were due, and yet if I pay them 1500, which BTW is higher than any of the previously mentioned prices, I'm cheating them. Shit they must like being cheated as they still WhatsApp me asking me where I am, after I have long gone. What does it matter how much money I have and how little it is to me, if she is happy, I'm happy so why are you UNHAPPY. Some of the members are accusing "cheap charlies" like me getting triggered when others overpay, saying how its because I'm financially emasculated hence I get all concerned when others are paying more. Seems to me you are the one getting all concerned I'm paying less. Maybe you should look to any inadequacies you have thus you are being charged a surcharge, or for reasons you feel you have to pay more.
I come from a world where many girls are happy to be with me free, some may even have sex for me for free, but I know as you put it these are 3rd world ladies with a 8th grade education and they need money to eat, that's why I pay what is a fair compensation in my mind, based on what locals would pay and based on local wages for unskilled work.
Mr Enternational
03-18-21, 20:37
You are from the western world and have had a million more opportunities' and money than most of these people. 1500 vs 4000 what is that to you? I mean really what is that 50 bucks, which means nothing to you but the world to them.Speak for yourself sir. $50 means a fucking lot to me. So if you gave a $100 bill for a $2 item at a newsstand and received $48 change, then your attitude would be oh well I am from the west and that $50 meant nothing to me? Because I would be like where is my other 50 fucking dollars.
Maybe you really meant when it is concerning pussy you are like yippee and don't mind spending an extra $50. Big difference in $50 meaning nothing.
This is the thing I elucidated to on the other thread. I said earlier that these girls survived before they met me, they were happily fucking their boyfriends for FREE, they were fucking happily locals for 500 p, as someone else mentioned they could be happily fucking the local divemaster for 500 p when bills were due, and yet if I pay them 1500, which BTW is higher than any of the previously mentioned prices, I'm cheating them. Shit they must like being cheated as they still WhatsApp me asking me where I am, after I have long gone. What does it matter how much money I have and how little it is to me, if she is happy, I'm happy so why are you UNHAPPY. Some of the members are accusing "cheap charlies" like me getting triggered when others overpay, saying how its because I'm financially emasculated hence I get all concerned when others are paying more. Seems to me you are the one getting all concerned I'm paying less. Maybe you should look to any inadequacies you have thus you are being charged a surcharge, or for reasons you feel you have to pay more.
I come from a world where many girls are happy to be with me free, some may even have sex for me for free, but I know as you put it these are 3rd world ladies with a 8th grade education and they need money to eat, that's why I pay what is a fair compensation in my mind, based on what locals would pay and based on local wages for unskilled work.Each to their own. I usually pay 1500 ST with no complaints. Girls are very happy.
Locamotive
03-19-21, 05:39
This is the thing I elucidated to on the other thread. I said earlier that these girls survived before they met me, they were happily fucking their boyfriends for FREE, they were fucking happily locals for 500 p, as someone else mentioned they could be happily fucking the local divemaster for 500 p when bills were due, and yet if I pay them 1500, which BTW is higher than any of the previously mentioned prices, I'm cheating them. Shit they must like being cheated as they still WhatsApp me asking me where I am, after I have long gone. What does it matter how much money I have and how little it is to me, if she is happy, I'm happy so why are you UNHAPPY. Some of the members are accusing "cheap charlies" like me getting triggered when others overpay, saying how its because I'm financially emasculated hence I get all concerned when others are paying more. Seems to me you are the one getting all concerned I'm paying less. Maybe you should look to any inadequacies you have thus you are being charged a surcharge, or for reasons you feel you have to pay more.
I come from a world where many girls are happy to be with me free, some may even have sex for me for free, but I know as you put it these are 3rd world ladies with a 8th grade education and they need money to eat, that's why I pay what is a fair compensation in my mind, based on what locals would pay and based on local wages for unskilled work.You are missing the point. Could I get sex for 1000 or 1500 yeah I guess and some never ask for anything. If you are from the west and I'm assuming you are could you do this at home especially if you are from US. No. Speaking to a girl here half your age. Ewww get away from me you old creepy dude. What's a few bucks, yeah you say she is happy, maybe, maybe not. She would be allot happier with more, who wouldn't. Some guys are just Cheap Charlies not much will change them. They would do it if they were millionaire's.
Soapy Smith
03-19-21, 06:41
I've been away from the board for awhile. Looks like I haven't missed much.
Conventional wisdom holds that the winner in an argument is the guy who gets the last word. Unfortunately, when the argument is pointless, it might be wise to drop out and let the other guy look silly when his last words are left hanging out to dry. On the other hand, if you are arguing with a guy who elucidates to his skills in maths, there's no way to win.
I read stuff like this usual don't even bother to respond, people are what they are. You are from the western world and have had a million more opportunities' and money than most of these people. 1500 vs 4000 what is that to you? I mean really what is that 50 bucks, which means nothing to you but the world to them. So cheating a 3rd world girl with probably a 8th grade education out of a few bucks makes you feel like "The Art of the Deal" World is full of heartless people I guess.An extra 50 dollars, or 500 K, in one's bank account at the end of one's life, is not going to mean anything to many people here. They can't take it with them. But it will mean a hell of a lot to many PFP pay for play ladies and or their families in poverty stricken places such as those found in much of South East Asia.
OTOH some hobbyists may be trying to get the best PFP deals they can to save up for their children's inheritance or other causes. They could save even more if they gave up PFP and went strictly for civilians or, perhaps even cheaper, autoeroticism. LOL.
555.
"Steve Martin. Sex Jokes".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HAKLKvUxdvQ
Soapy Smith
03-19-21, 07:39
Speak for yourself sir. $50 means a fucking lot to me. That's funny. I remember you arguing that money isn't important to you. So, which is it, money is important to you, or it isn't?
Mr Enternational
03-19-21, 08:57
That's funny. I remember you arguing that money isn't important to you. So, which is it, money is important to you, or it isn't?I think you have the wrong person, but since you asked. Money is not important to me. That does not mean I am going to give it away willy nilly, when I traded time out of my life in exchange for it. What is important to me are the things that I can get with the money, and not the money itself. Keep the money and give me credits that I can get the things I want with. Fine with me. In the USA confederate currency is money, but it is worthless and you can not buy a damn thing with it. So having a house full of that money would be useless.
I wonder what guys are trying to achieve with paying over odds?
On the positive side it certainly gives access to prettier girls in town (though many would argue not necessarily better attitudes and service). I can understand this being of prime importance to some. However, I have also seen many Jeans and Tee Shirt provincial godesses that were ecstatic to receive 500 p for some new dresses.
Preferential repeat access would also be likely. Not because of the girls' sense of gratitude but simply because the guy has out bid competitors.
"Saving" destitute girls? I find this highly unlikely. Money just runs through their fingers and is seldom spent on long term wealth creation. I've seen many girls rolling in cash one day and borrowing money the next.
Similarly, warm and fuzzy feelings are unlikely as the girls immediately forget and past assistance and are only concerned with the here and now.
Giving her money so she can go home, stay out of the bar and await for your return. . . . Please!? Really!?
I think there are some areas where some guys (esp short term visitor) do gain a benefit from over paying but it's unlikely to be the life assistance and gratitude that many quote. I'd also agree with the previous comment that this professed altruism rarely extends to anyone without a pussy for hire.
Sorry for the rambling post. I've been copied up too long. LOL.
Enjoy. G.
Confederate money has not been debased and inflated like regular us dollars. It is definitely not worthless. It's worth many times it's face value.
Though I get your point.
I think you have the wrong person, but since you asked. Money is not important to me. That does not mean I am going to give it away willy nilly, when I traded time out of my life in exchange for it. What is important to me are the things that I can get with the money, and not the money itself. Keep the money and give me credits that I can get the things I want with. Fine with me. In the USA confederate currency is money, but it is worthless and you can not buy a damn thing with it. So having a house full of that money would be useless.
MutantChicken
03-19-21, 21:33
You are missing the point. Could I get sex for 1000 or 1500 yeah I guess and some never ask for anything. If you are from the west and I'm assuming you are could you do this at home especially if you are from US. No. Speaking to a girl here half your age. Ewww get away from me you old creepy dude. What's a few bucks, yeah you say she is happy, maybe, maybe not. She would be allot happier with more, who wouldn't. Some guys are just Cheap Charlies not much will change them. They would do it if they were millionaire's.This is a circuitous debate, I noted you comments on the vn thread and its clear where you lie your bed to sleep. I do get your point, and that is you say you could get it for 1000/1500, my answer is maybe, maybe not. Do you try to bargain when you are buy a car, hiring a contractor, I'm pretty damn sure you do or at least try to. But suddenly when it comes to a girl you don't negotiate and even pay more than she asks. The reason you do this is due to guilt or shame. This is clearly illustrated by your next comment about how you couldn't even get a girl who was 1/2 your age to speak to you in the West, and so when you are "here", you feel you need to "adequately" compensate her.
That's your issue, your feelings of inadequacy. I don't have that issue, can I get a girl 1/2 my age, definitely only it would involve a lot of time, a lot of kiss ass, a lot of simpering and a lot of cash. Time that I could be spend doing more productive activities. My norm when I was still in the west was dating girls 10-15 yrs younger than me, and even then it was too much. Sweet talking a girl 3-5 hrs before bedding here, if I were instead work, would have given me the income to pay for a 500 dollar FL at the minimum. Now where I live the cost is 15 dollars, so it would be 30 times more stupid for me to go the dating route. So no, I don't have you issues because I never experienced the "ewww get away from me you creepy dude" even with girls 1/2 my age. I pay because its the most efficient way to get what I want, not because I have to pay for a girl to talk to me or to have sex with me. Clearly you don't have the life experiences to understand the difference.
NB Many millionaires are millionaires because they are frugal and have a keen business sense aka cheap charlies.
But hey do what you do more power to you, ill continue with me 15 dollar hotties, with no competition.
MutantChicken
03-19-21, 21:53
I wonder what guys are trying to achieve with paying over odds?
On the positive side it certainly gives access to prettier girls in town (though many would argue not necessarily better attitudes and service). I can understand this being of prime importance to some. However, I have also seen many Jeans and Tee Shirt provincial godesses that were ecstatic to receive 500 p for some new dresses.
Preferential repeat access would also be likely. Not because of the girls' sense of gratitude but simply because the guy has out bid competitors.
"Saving" destitute girls? I find this highly unlikely. Money just runs through their fingers and is seldom spent on long term wealth creation. I've seen many girls rolling in cash one day and borrowing money the next.
Similarly, warm and fuzzy feelings are unlikely as the girls immediately forget and past assistance and are only concerned with the here and now.What is funny is that many if not most of the "I happily overpay" because I'm so financially endowed crowd don't follow their "Its my money, I spend it how I want" mantra, as from my assessment they are on one hand complaining that cheap charlies keep on cramping their style by telling them how and when to pay, but they seem to not have such a liberal attitude about how the cheap charlies should be allowed to pay what they want pay. Calling them cheap charlies, mean spirited, cold hearted, should be ashamed of themselves. There is no need to go further than the recent stupid shit on the Vn thread, which I quietly observed. You would think that someone who was so warm hearted and blessed with such endowments would have more grace than to "bully" the downtrodden broke ass cheap charlies.
Equally poignant is the fact that most in former group all they do is "comment" comment literally on every thread, comments ranging on how they used a squat toilet, the best fish and chips in AC, but I find it hard to find a FR or a post that relates to mongering or a post that has intel that show's they have actually been to some of these places, and were the big wigs the claim to be. At best they post information that can be readily garnered on the web for example bus routes to get from manila to AC. Enquiring minds would question the status of these guys one-handed typing basement trolls vs sophisticated world mongerers.
I wonder what guys are trying to achieve with paying over odds?
On the positive side it certainly gives access to prettier girls in town (though many would argue not necessarily better attitudes and service). I can understand this being of prime importance to some. However, I have also seen many Jeans and Tee Shirt provincial godesses that were ecstatic to receive 500 p for some new dresses.
Preferential repeat access would also be likely. Not because of the girls' sense of gratitude but simply because the guy has out bid competitors.
"Saving" destitute girls? I find this highly unlikely. Money just runs through their fingers and is seldom spent on long term wealth creation. I've seen many girls rolling in cash one day and borrowing money the next.
Similarly, warm and fuzzy feelings are unlikely as the girls immediately forget and past assistance and are only concerned with the here and now.It seems you answered your own question making a strong case for paying more than one has to.
Additionally see my post below a few posts prior to this one.
Also having spent hours this week RTF reading the forum concerning Angeles City, it is evident a number of members here believe that offering a tip incentive beyond the BF bar fine is a useful way to entice those inclined to such a motivation to provide better service and attitude, etc.
SinfullyKorean
03-20-21, 09:50
You are missing the point. Could I get sex for 1000 or 1500 yeah I guess and some never ask for anything. If you are from the west and I'm assuming you are could you do this at home especially if you are from US. No. Speaking to a girl here half your age. Ewww get away from me you old creepy dude. What's a few bucks, yeah you say she is happy, maybe, maybe not. She would be allot happier with more, who wouldn't. Some guys are just Cheap Charlies not much will change them. They would do it if they were millionaire's.You really can't compare what people pay in the US vs PH. Cost of living is higher, cost of sex is higher, wages are higher. This is partially why people move to PH to retire. Expecting them to pay the same for stuff in PH as US is just absurd. And yes, speaking and having sex with girls half our age is very possible in the US. You're on a fucking sex forum and you're spitting nonsense like "Ewww get away from me you old creepy dude"? You're basically talking about 90% of the audience here. Are you from PH? Are you trying to be a white knight?
Nobody should be considered a Cheap Charlie because they're willing to pay a fair rate for goods and services that are normal for that market. But people can sure as hell be expected to be pissed if they're being asked to pay more because they're from another country. That's racism and cheating.
Nobody should be considered a Cheap Charlie because they're willing to pay a fair rate for goods and services that are normal for that market. But people can sure as hell be expected to be pissed if they're being asked to pay more because they're from another country. That's racism and cheating.Spot on. If you are into the whole online thing (Meet Me, Tagged, Skout, etc) you will notice that the Pinay women normally stay active all during their nighttime for a very good reason. It's the daylight hours in the USA and Europe and those guys are willing to spend to buy "gifts' online than some of their own countrymen have the ability to do so. So to your point if the local market has one price and you being an expat or visitor has another that really is not helping the local economy on a fair basis, so I don't see why folks are getting mad at some who may be willing to negotiate differently than you. Like it or not, they do for themselves so you may as well look out for ones self.
Soapy Smith
03-21-21, 03:09
I think you have the wrong person, but since you asked. Money is not important to me. That does not mean I am going to give it away willy nilly, when I traded time out of my life in exchange for it. What is important to me are the things that I can get with the money, and not the money itself. Keep the money and give me credits that I can get the things I want with. Fine with me. In the USA confederate currency is money, but it is worthless and you can not buy a damn thing with it. So having a house full of that money would be useless.
I don't have the wrong person. You definitely posted such a statement several months ago. It was in sort of a tit-for-tat you and I were engaged in. I started searching your posts, but when I realized you post a half dozen or more messages each day, I decided it wasn't worth my time. I think at any given moment you probably will say whatever comes to mind to stay on top of an argument--in your own mind. Perhaps you recall posting that Emory University offered you admission to their Anthropology Ph.D. program, but you turned them down because they offered you only a little less than $20K as an annual stipend. But, of course, money isn't important to you.
I don't have the wrong person. You definitely posted such a statement several months ago. It was in sort of a tit-for-tat you and I were engaged in. I started searching your posts, but when I realized you post a half dozen or more messages each day, I decided it wasn't worth my time. I think at any given moment you probably will say whatever comes to mind to stay on top of an argument--in your own mind. Perhaps you recall posting that Emory University offered you admission to their Anthropology Ph.D. program, but you turned them down because they offered you only a little less than $20K as an annual stipend. But, of course, money isn't important to you.Here I was thinking he was in aviation.
Mr Enternational
03-21-21, 14:12
Here I was thinking he was in aviation.Why, because it is impossible to do more than one thing in life?
Here I was thinking he was in aviation.Here I was thinking this character's posting persona was a parody, some kind bore troll, which wouldn't be so bad if there was a bit of redeeming humor in it somewhere, but there isn't.
START. "Ghost towns return.
Since March 22, the Philippine government tightened social distancing restrictions in the national capital region, where the bulk of the country's industries are located.
The recently-imposed Enhanced Community Quarantine (ECQ) is the Philippines' strictest form of lockdown, lasting from March 29 to April 4. There will be a curfew from 6 pm to 5 am across major cities, with armored vehicles and soldiers with rifles manning checkpoints across major intersections.
Shopping malls have been closed and public transportation is operating at minimum capacity. Only essential industries such as pharmacies, supermarkets and hospitals are open. Mass gatherings are prohibited, as Metro Manila and surrounding cities once again turn into overnight ghost towns. ". END.
https://asiatimes.com/2021/03/philippine-economy-in-freefall-as-covid-rates-soar
Meanwhile, here in Cebu City, life goes on, though we are still stuck in MGCQ and have been since last September. MGCQ is the least restrictive quarantine category. There are 4 categories of quarantine in the Philippines, ECQ, MECQ, GCQ and MGCQ with ECQ being the most severe and MGCQ being the least restrictive. Under ECQ most shops including malls have to close and taxis (including Grab Car) and bike-taxis are not allowed to operate.
All the malls in Cebu City are open and have been for many months, though the overnight curfew from 11 pm to 5 am is still operational. Trucks, cars, motorbikes, taxis, buses and jeeps clog the streets. The border check points between Cebu City and Mandaue and the rest of Cebu province were abandoned months ago. The liquor ban in Cebu City which was brought back last month is still operational (only for bars and restaurants, sales in supermarkets and convenience shops for take-home is still allowed). Almost all bars are shut but I have found at least one in Cebu City that is open and discretely serving liquor but it closes at 10 pm. As for the girls, I still have some regulars who are always willing to meet up with me and once or twice a month meet up with new girls via pinalove and dateinasia.
SinfullyKorean
03-31-21, 20:46
183 countries funny. I've traveled allot of places and nowhere is like Thailand, Vietnam or Philippines and those places we cannot go. Real beauties like I've experienced for 100 bucks or less, I challenge you to do that anywhere else. The US certainly isn't one. My last trip to Vegas saw a oriental the quality of what I get in Asia. How much darling. $2000 short time! HaHaHa you are smoking crack. Sure if you are filthy rich the world is your oyster but for us normal guys S. E. Asia is a unique place that is not comparable to any place on earth.You're smoking crack if you're paying 2 k for an Asian beauty in Vegas. A beautiful South Korean beauty can be had in Vegas for 300ST. At AMPS, they can also be had for 100 tip to the provider (after base fee of 40 or 60 to the shop). You seem to be greatly exaggerating the cost of sex in the US.
WestCoast1
04-01-21, 00:15
You're smoking crack if you're paying 2 k for an Asian beauty in Vegas. A beautiful South Korean beauty can be had in Vegas for 300ST. At AMPS, they can also be had for 100 tip to the provider (after base fee of 40 or 60 to the shop). You seem to be greatly exaggerating the cost of sex in the US.You went all the way back to page 22 to fetch that Locomotive quote. SK, I would agree with your prices for AMPS, including somewhat smaller numbers outside of Vegas. However, the AMP worker is going to require a condom. As a SE Asia comparison, a 22 yo provincial girl might give not only an evening and morning pop, she might also initiate a 2 am pop on her own, and be screaming happy with a blue note ($20) when she leaves after breakfast (so much so that you started with her at age 20 and she's returned each visit until she's 25, five years later, for the same amount). The idea of a condom might seem 'foreign' to her. Obviously travel and other expenses must be factored. You won't find that in the US.
OTOH, I have given multiples of the AMP amount you mentioned for ST, gladly, given the circumstance. I agree with Locomotive, the price / performance differential between SE / A and the western countries is large. Also in Vegas its not uncommon for FL to quote outrageously high prices ($2 k ST) and then not negotiate down. Going to an AMP becomes the default. The massage places will send SK girls to your hotel for $70-ish charged to your credit card for a massage; you negotiate service / price after she arrives.
SinfullyKorean
04-01-21, 01:27
You went all the way back to page 22 to fetch that Locomotive quote. SK, I would agree with your prices for AMPS, including somewhat smaller numbers outside of Vegas. However, the AMP worker is going to require a condom. As a SE Asia comparison, a 22 yo provincial girl might give not only an evening and morning pop, she might also initiate a 2 am pop on her own, and be screaming happy with a blue note ($20) when she leaves after breakfast (so much so that you started with her at age 20 and she's returned each visit until she's 25, five years later, for the same amount). The idea of a condom might seem 'foreign' to her. Obviously travel and other expenses must be factored. You won't find that in the US.
OTOH, I have given multiples of the AMP amount you mentioned for ST, gladly, given the circumstance. I agree with Locomotive, the price / performance differential between SE / A and the western countries is large. Also in Vegas its not uncommon for FL to quote outrageously high prices ($2 k ST) and then not negotiate down. Going to an AMP becomes the default. The massage places will send SK girls to your hotel for $70-ish charged to your credit card for a massage; you negotiate service / price after she arrives.LOL I was actually curious where Locomotive was from, because he said something along the lines of "you guys from the US". Since he only had 20 or so posts, I took a glance.
I know there are 2 k+ ladies out there. I'm just saying I don't think that's the norm. It depends on the pond you're swimming in.
I was just pointing out that 2 k ST is not the general rule in the Asian market, even in Vegas. The difference in price is a lot, but more like 10 X, not 100 X. I'm not familiar with the PH market, but am definitely familiar with the US market.
BTW, there's also now plenty of SK providers that provide no condom service for 400 now, mostly in LA, OC, and SF.
...BTW, there's also now plenty of SK providers that provide no condom service for 400 now, mostly in LA, OC, and SF.In SF area, the current price is $240 per hour.
...Real beauties like I've experienced for 100 bucks or less, I challenge you to do that anywhere else....but for us normal guys S. E. Asia is a unique place that is not comparable to any place on earth.Sorry, but I disagree. SE Asia is not unique. I just came back from Colombia, and got excellent service for less than $100ST. And the FKKs cost only $50 bucks ST. Also, You can't even go to Asia now.
Please, stop making incorrect statements.
As the Philippine Covid cases show no signs of getting better and lockdown / quarantine restrictions impact travel plans has anyone moved their their target to other monger destinations? Thailand? Vietnam? Sth America?
Engine Driver
04-03-21, 03:28
As the Philippine Covid cases show no signs of getting better and lockdown / quarantine restrictions impact travel plans has anyone moved their their target to other monger destinations? Thailand? Vietnam? Sth America?Astute mongers will know that this is not the time to travel abroad to root bird brained nincompoops for 1,500 Thai baht or 40,000 Colombian peso. The opportunity cost is far too great. Rich White Man Land (US, Canada, UK, Australia) economies are booming at the moment. Stock prices are at record highs, property is at record highs, interest rates are at historical lows, we are returning to full employment and there are too many opportunities to engage in commerce. Unless you are a recently retired assistant professor or are already marooned in the Philippines, there are too many good reasons not to travel just to get your marshmallow sucked.
Even if the economic conditions were not so great in RWML, who can actually leave their home country? Australians can't. And how do you propose they return home once their dick is raw from too much BBFSCIP? There is so little capacity in the scheduled air services from anywhere. I hear that charter flights from Chile to Australia are $12,000 one way in coach class, plus two weeks mandatory quarantine on your return at your own expense. No thanks.
PedroMorales
04-03-21, 13:16
As the Philippine Covid cases show no signs of getting better and lockdown / quarantine restrictions impact travel plans has anyone moved their their target to other monger destinations? Thailand? Vietnam? Sth America?Not sure if you are keeping up with all this but the authorities keep moving the goalposts. Vaccine passports, wobbling on whether vaccines are effective, air lines in ruins. If your cock is your boss, get a pussy and dig in for a long war. Forget Vietnam. Your best bet is a lawless place if they'll take you.
DzikaBomba
04-03-21, 15:47
As the Philippine Covid cases show no signs of getting better and lockdown / quarantine restrictions impact travel plans has anyone moved their their target to other monger destinations? Thailand? Vietnam? Sth America?Yes I sadly had to. Last Year in September I was in Sosua. DR. I reported here. The Place was nice, but the prices and Services there where not good in my Opinion. Some Weekend Millioners who like to come there from a country north from DR like paying 150 $ for LT. And the Chicas like cold, short ST.
In February I was in Kenya. Mombasa (Mtwapa). It was my first Time in Africa and I enjoyed it. In Causarina you can get Girls every Day for about 15 $ LT (2000 Ksh). Great, enthusiastic Service. DFK standard. People were nice, Food was good and wheatear hot.
The only bad Thing is the Curfew from 22 -05. But besides I can only recommend it. I Had zero Problems! (Not like in the DR).
Africa will see me again.
Hey guys.
Hope everyone is doing well despite covid. I just wanted to get your advice on what the best beach town / sex destination in PI. I'm talking about clean clear beaches, not to many tourists, good local food and fun girls both P4P and local semipros.
I'm just really getting sick of the AC Pattaya Cebu scene and want to try something different.
Hey guys.
Hope everyone is doing well despite covid. I just wanted to get your advice on what the best beach town / sex destination in PI. I'm talking about clean clear beaches, not to many tourists, good local food and fun girls both P4P and local semipros.
I'm just really getting sick of the AC Pattaya Cebu scene and want to try something different.It wasn't that long ago that Sabang and Subic were the only beach options with girls in tap. Both have crap local beaches. Everywhere else was byo.
The internet has now changed that. Moalboal, Bohol, Palawan, Dumagutte all have girls online looking for "boyfriends". The only exception seems to be Boracay. That's still essentially byo. As usual, being in town now is far more attractive than "I'm visiting next year".
Enjoy. G.
In February I was in Kenya. Mombasa (Mtwapa). It was my first Time in Africa and I enjoyed it. In Causarina you can get Girls every Day for about 15 $ LT (2000 Ksh). Great, enthusiastic Service. DFK standard. People were nice, Food was good and wheatear hot.
The only bad Thing is the Curfew from 22 -05. But besides I can only recommend it. I Had zero Problems! (Not like in the DR).
Africa will see me again.Thanks. Many are comparing Africa to Asia 30 years ago.
WestCoast1
04-04-21, 00:32
Astute mongers will know that this is not the time to travel abroad to root bird brained nincompoops for 1,500 Thai baht or 40,000 Colombian peso. A lot of talk, obviously, about when to travel, where to go. While being in-country can be snatch-heaven, there are real drawbacks also. The NCR was put in a rather strict lockdown last week for Holy week, which appears to be extended for another week. Curfew 6 pm, malls closed. Nobody over age 65 is to be moving about outdoors. All restaurants closed to dine-in (take-out only). Many Brgy continue here-there lockdowns depending on new cases popping up. In yesterday's news, Philippines Orthopedic Center announced the majority of its staff has tested positive.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/04/03/21/covid-hit-philippine-orthopedic-center-suspends-outpatient-services-er-still-open
From the article:
"Hospital appeals for PPE, face mask donations
MANILA - The Philippine Orthopedic Center announced Saturday it would close outpatient services for the meantime while its emergency room would remain open for orthopedic patients after over a hundred of its staff tested positive for COVID-19.
The number of its staff who tested positive for the novel coronavirus also climbed to 117 from 110 reported Friday night"
That's 117 of its 180 staff. A hospital appealing to the public for face masks. What to do? Where to go? Must be in your home by 6 pm. Not much to do during the day. Manila is in the midst of another bloom. Is this where you want to be?
As the others have suggested, Columbia, or the African continent maybe.
Any idea what the logic behind these absurdly high rental prices are? I imagine it probably goes something like, I haven't made any money on this condo for months! I have to double the rent to make up for it! With no consideration as to what demand levels might be.Yep, that is pretty much the local logic in everything not only condo prices.
Hey guys.
Hope everyone is doing well despite covid. I just wanted to get your advice on what the best beach town / sex destination in PI. I'm talking about clean clear beaches, not to many tourists, good local food and fun girls both P4P and local semipros.
I'm just really getting sick of the AC Pattaya Cebu scene and want to try something different.A lot will depend on what you want to do. Diving? That will limit some areas.
Attractions? Also will limit.
If you just want a deserted beach no built up services but white sand, try Puerto Princessa.
Easy girls will be in places with tourists. However with essentially no foreign tourists left, even the tourist places have limited girls as they all went home when the cash flow dried up.
I am in such a tourist place now. The fun girls all went home and most local girls do not want to be seen with a foreigner for fun, perhaps a longer term dating and seduction would work but instant sex not so much. I am having good luck with girls from 50 kms or so away. They are not known here and are non pros who appreciate a 100 p, good meal and a good fuck or two once in a while.
Not sure if you are keeping up with all this but the authorities keep moving the goalposts. Vaccine passports, wobbling on whether vaccines are effective, air lines in ruins. If your cock is your boss, get a pussy and dig in for a long war. Forget Vietnam. Your best bet is a lawless place if they'll take you.I have received my Covid vaccines and would travel back to Vietnam in a heartbeat. I chickened out when I had a chance to go there in February 2020 and cancelled my flights. In hindsight I think I made a mistake. Had I gone, I would still be enjoying life there. While the Vietnamese government may be heavy handed, that is what has kept the country relatively safe with less than 3,000 Covid cases and only 35 deaths since the start of the pandemic. If only we in the west had the resolve to look out for the greater good rather than individual rights at times. There have been Covid pockets from time to time, which resulted in showing they have targeted lockdowns and meticulous contact tracing down to a science. For the majority of the last year, with occasional interruptions, the Vietnamese have been free to mingle and party even in the bars and high traffic areas like Bui Vien Street in Saigon, and the Old Quarter in Hanoi.
I follow the Vietnamese online news regularly and once Vietnam says Vietnam is open for International travel without more than a few days of quarantine I would be very comfortable returning. That being said, I must transit through Taipei or Seoul so I must also follow what is happening in countries with connecting flights. I sense reopenings will be cautious, but once Asia starts to reopen, the rules throughout Asia will likely be closely coordinated. My bigger concern would be my own government's rules requiring costly lockdowns at my cost on my return when I can self isolate at home no cost to myself.
Anyone else's WeChat acting weird? I presently can only see 5 people online, while makers appear to have been blocking escorts from searches for quite a while I used to be able to see maximum number search would allow on people nearby.
DzikaBomba
04-04-21, 17:56
Anyone else's WeChat acting weird? I presently can only see 5 people online, while makers appear to have been blocking escorts from searches for quite a while I used to be able to see maximum number search would allow on people nearby.Since WeChat started this Account Verification from an Other Account to open an new Account about 1 Year ago the Number of users decreases more and more.
No wonder, because there are no new Users coming to this app (which are not Chinese). No more Clients, so no more Hookers are using these app. Try alternatives.
The CCP took over the app completely so there is no more space left for hookers and mongers.
R. I. P. WeChat.
Anyone else's WeChat acting weird? I presently can only see 5 people online, while makers appear to have been blocking escorts from searches for quite a while I used to be able to see maximum number search would allow on people nearby.The app has lost it's edge outside China. "Lookaround' feature used to find 100's of girls, now it is usually empty.
Anyone else's WeChat acting weird? I presently can only see 5 people online, while makers appear to have been blocking escorts from searches for quite a while I used to be able to see maximum number search would allow on people nearby.I found a few chicks on Tantan in free mode.
PedroMorales
04-06-21, 12:35
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9439947/Covid-Philippines-Man-dies-forced-300-squats-breaching-curfew.html
This is a report of the death of a curfew breaker.
AussieGaigin
04-06-21, 23:35
Anyone else's WeChat acting weird? I presently can only see 5 people online, while makers appear to have been blocking escorts from searches for quite a while I used to be able to see maximum number search would allow on people nearby.I've seen that a few times lately, but seems to refresh itself after an hour or so back to normal. "People nearby" has a range of about 20 km.
PedroMorales
04-07-21, 09:33
Brazilian hookers have gone on strike to be jabbed. Ask the Jollibees to get off their butts and back on their backs to take the jab. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9444167/Prostitutes-strike-demand-considered-line-workers-eligible-priority-Covid-jab.html.
I found a few chicks on Tantan in free mode.When you say 'found' did you actually meet TanTan chicks?
My experience is that it is slim pickings with scammers making up the majority of traffic.
When you say 'found' did you actually meet TanTan chicks?
My experience is that it is slim pickings with scammers making up the majority of traffic.Yes I met a few. One was very hot. I just used it in free mode and found it better than Tinder in free mode, where most of the chicks want premium payment. I find all the sites have scammers, just a part of the process to eliminate them.
When you say 'found' did you actually meet TanTan chicks?
My experience is that it is slim pickings with scammers making up the majority of traffic.Wasn't it Tantan that only accepts verified profile pics? Basically take a real-time selfie and facial recognition software would compare it to the profile pic on file? No more pretending to be a hot 24 yo personal trainer.
I seem to remember some other sites that wanted 100 points of ID uploaded as verification as well. No way in hell I'm uploading my Driver's Licence, Passport etc details to a random hooker for hire web site. Identity Theft anyone? 😳.
These were a while ago so things may have changed now. I did try them for a short time, essentially got nowhere, so just gave up and went back to the old faithfuls.
Enjoy. G.
Wasn't it Tantan that only accepts verified profile pics? Basically take a real-time selfie and facial recognition software would compare it to the profile pic on file? No more pretending to be a hot 24 yo personal trainer.
I seem to remember some other sites that wanted 100 points of ID uploaded as verification as well. No way in hell I'm uploading my Driver's Licence, Passport etc details to a random hooker for hire web site. Identity Theft anyone? 😳.
These were a while ago so things may have changed now. I did try them for a short time, essentially got nowhere, so just gave up and went back to the old faithfuls.
Enjoy. G.I joined with my fake facebook account.
Engine Driver
04-09-21, 04:00
When you say 'found' did you actually meet TanTan chicks?
My experience is that it is slim pickings with scammers making up the majority of traffic.TanTan is ground zero for the Bitcoin scam and the Military Romance scam.
A hot looking Chinese chick will befriend an old white bloke (OWB). She will then show off her wealth that she got, all from Bitcoin trading. There will be pictures of Ferraris, LV handbags, condos and cash laying about on her glass coffee table etc. Before long she will convince the OWB to open his own trading account, so that he too can become a multi millionaire overnight. She will them train him on how to trade. The scammers move in and siphon the OWB's account. Goodbye retirement savings. OWBs need to ask themselves. Why would a beautiful, young Chinese chick approach them? It's not for true love.
The military romance scam involves operatives in Nigeria / Russia / China stealing pictures of legitimate US military personnel (male and female) from social media sites. Using the fake profile, they strike up a romance with lonely OWBs and old white ladies (OWLs). They will say that they can't access the internet due to US Government security reasons and since they are stuck in Afghanistan / Syria / Iraq, could they please ask for help in receiving lap tops, iPhones, iTunes cards, cash, etc. Very soon, OWB and OWL and down thousands of dollars. There have been cases where after sending hundreds of thousands of dollars over a couple of years, OWB goes to the rendezvous point in Bali / Thailand / Hawaii to finally meet and fuck the big bootied corporal, but she never arrives. Hahaha.
WestCoast1
04-17-21, 23:03
Vaxing in Philippines, attached pics. I think the last two pics are out of order.
Engine Driver
04-18-21, 00:22
Vaxing in Philippines, attached pics. I think the last two pics are out of order.When do you get your turn? I suppose foreigners are right at the back of the queue.
WestCoast1
04-18-21, 02:14
When do you get your turn? I suppose foreigners are right at the back of the queue.I did not see any mention of foreigners getting jabs. If any government is looking for herd immunity (regardless of what % the government thinks that is), they must vax as many people as possible. That includes outsiders (whether in-country legally or not), prisoners, everyone. Infected outsiders (symptomatic or not) can spread disease as well as citizens; hence you want them jabbed.
From almost all my Filipino contacts, few want a jab. Not one of my regulars (multiple cities) will get a jab. I hear the wildest conspiracy theories (regardless those DOH FB ads with pics like I posted, claiming that vaxes are safe and necessary). The conspiracy theories run the gamut, from the simplest (vaxes kill people on the spot), to more unusual (the vaccine is formulated so that new 5 G cell towers can geo-locate and follow you) to the more bizarre (vaxes are formulated so that 5 G cell towers can find you and laser-kill you on the spot). Nothing irrational there.
Little different in my country, just the anti-vaxers there have different reasons not to vaccinate. However, don't be surprised if only a smaller-than-herd-immunity % of people here (or any country) are vaxed a year from now. I am making a conjecture here: For many poor countries, for a variety of reasons (cost, scandals, corruption), it could be years before they get enough vaccines (trickles of jabs from time to time). A country must vaccinate its people to a herd-immunity level in a short time-frame (the vax potency might be limited in time). Its not only not looking good for foreigners here, its looking bad for foreigners in their own country who want to travel here.
Sad face also for foreigners here whose 3-year time limit is (or has) expiring during Covid. You must leave, and don't know when you are coming back.
GoodEnough
04-18-21, 03:49
I did not see any mention of foreigners getting jabs. If any government is looking for herd immunity (regardless of what % the government thinks that is), they must vax as many people as possible. That includes outsiders (whether in-country legally or not), prisoners, everyone. Infected outsiders (symptomatic or not) can spread disease as well as citizens; hence you want them jabbed.
I've not seen or read anything suggesting that foreign residents here will not be eligible to receive vaccines, and, per local instructions, I've registered with our barangay both on line and in person. I've also been told by my doctor here approximately when I can expect to receive the vaccine. My assumption is that the timing of the vaccines depends more on the age of the vaccine recipient than on citizenship. I did show proof of permanent residency when registering in person, but I think that was superfluous to requirements.
GE.
WestCoast1
04-18-21, 05:16
I've not seen or read anything suggesting that foreign residents here will not be eligible to receive vaccines, and, per local instructions, I've registered with our barangay both on line and in person. I've also been told by my doctor here approximately when I can expect to receive the vaccine. My assumption is that the timing of the vaccines depends more on the age of the vaccine recipient than on citizenship. I did show proof of permanent residency when registering in person, but I think that was superfluous to requirements.
GE.Concur. I was not suggesting that foreigners were locked out of the system, I was saying that in the early bits of information coming out (such as those pics), I didn't see foreigners mentioned (same in my place back home). I was speaking more in the academic. I might stop by my Brgy hall and ask.
Sad face also for foreigners here whose 3-year time limit is (or has) expiring during Covid. You must leave, and don't know when you are coming back.I was aware of this 3-year time limit, I moved to Cebu City in July 2019 and am still living here. I have been extending my stay here every 6 months using their 'visa waiver' scheme (ie a 6 month visa extension). My current visa runs out in September when I will request another extension.
I have not left the country since I arrived in July 2019, and with the current ongoing 'rona restrictions on entry for foreigners I could leave the country tomorrow but would not be let back in again. So in a way I am trapped here, but it's a hell'uva place to be trapped!
My 3 years will be up in July next year and if the entry restrictions for foreigners have not been eased up by then (or the suspension on the 3-year rule) I will have to leave and go and live elsewhere.
However, don't be surprised if only a smaller-than-herd-immunity % of people here (or any country) are vaxed a year from now.A recent survey here in the Philippines showed about 60% of the population were unwilling to be inoculated against the 'rona, I'm not sure what effect that will have on opening up the country. They started their inoculation programme back in February but there seems to be a lot of supply problems, so even for the 40% who are keen to get jabbed they will have to be patient.
Geneva Guy
04-18-21, 17:02
Since I work in a COVID vaccine clinic, just a bit of advice to you guys:
-Don't take the chinese "killed virus" vaccines, only about 55% effective. Even their scientists say they are not good. China gave a lot of vaccine to many countries including PHIL.
-For you guys, the Astra-Zeneca-Oxford vaccine and the J&J vaccine (if available) are OK (most risk in younger women). The AZ vaccine is preferred as it provides more protection and is a 2 dose vaccine compared to the J&J vaccine.
-Russian Sputnik V seems good also based on published data in a major medical journal with a good reputation.
-The Pfizer (which is in PHIL) and Moderna vaccines, both 2 doses and both 90%+ effective even against some variants. These are the preferred.
This is a broad brush statement, so don't bust me on trivia with these. This is my area of expertise so I'm offering up the advice (maybe not worth 2 cents hahaha?
Good luck.
GG.
-For you guys, the Astra-Zeneca-Oxford vaccine and the J&J vaccine (if available) are OK (most risk in younger women). The AZ vaccine is preferred as it provides more protection and is a 2 dose vaccine compared to the J&J vaccine..True for us old guys but the AZ can have some rare but severe blood clotting complications. A 48 yo Australian died last week.
Note that complication rates are very low so I'm not fear mongering but it's something to be aware of if you are below 50.
Sad face also for foreigners here whose 3-year time limit is (or has) expiring during Covid. You must leave, and don't know when you are coming back.Many mongers still at home had covid cancelled flights.
Some will be coming up against the cancel date for any 12 month Credit notes that they may have received.
Since I work in a COVID vaccine clinic, just a bit of advice to you guys:
-Don't take the chinese "killed virus" vaccines, only about 55% effective. Even their scientists say they are not good. China gave a lot of vaccine to many countries including PHIL.
-For you guys, the Astra-Zeneca-Oxford vaccine and the J&J vaccine (if available) are OK (most risk in younger women). The AZ vaccine is preferred as it provides more protection and is a 2 dose vaccine compared to the J&J vaccine.
-Russian Sputnik V seems good also based on published data in a major medical journal with a good reputation.
-The Pfizer (which is in PHIL) and Moderna vaccines, both 2 doses and both 90%+ effective even against some variants. These are the preferred.
This is a broad brush statement, so don't bust me on trivia with these. This is my area of expertise so I'm offering up the advice (maybe not worth 2 cents hahaha?
Good luck.
GG.GG since you work in this industry give us some info on the vaccine. When all is said and done, does the vaccine prevent you from developing full blown "COVID" and if so will you be able to transmit it to someone while your body is still building it's defenses? If it does, then why do we still need to wear masks in some places? Just looking for an honest answer.
Geneva Guy
04-19-21, 11:24
GG since you work in this industry give us some info on the vaccine. When all is said and done, does the vaccine prevent you from developing full blown "COVID" and if so will you be able to transmit it to someone while your body is still building it's defenses? If it does, then why do we still need to wear masks in some places? Just looking for an honest answer.The AZ, J&J, Pfizer, Moderna and Sputnik V vaccines reduce the incidence of severe disease to a very low rate (with Pfizer and Moderna reducing this the most to <5% All the vaccines reduce the severity of COVID but none of the vaccines totally eliminate the risk of disease. In terms of "carrying" covid, the data suggests the vaccines reduce the ability of someone to get COVID with no symptoms and tranmit the virus to someone else. BUT. That data is only observational, the studies of this are ongoing, so don't count on this right now. That means you still need to mask (actually double mask, paper on bottom, cloth on top), distance, and good hand hygeine. You don't need to mask when you are eating filipina pussy however.
Most of the cases of blood clots are in younger women but not exclusively. However the risk of dying from COVID is higher than the risk of clots (to date). Also for the J&J vaccine, there is an ongoing study to see if 2 doses are needed.
I suspect for any of the vaccines booster doses will be required. That is just the way that some of these vaccines are.
None of the vaccines "change" your DNA. The Pfizer and Moderna are mRNA vaccines that program your body to make the COVID spike protein and then your body makes immunity. The J&J, AZ and Sputnik V are "vector" vaccines. They go into the nucleus (center) of your cells and use your own DNA mechanism to make mRNA which then makes the spike protein antigen and then immunity.
No vaccine is 100% effective. But we know if enough people have immunity, then the chance of getting the disease, even if the vaccine didn't give you immunity is reduced (but not ZERO).
The numbers are in favor of vaccine vs side effects (severe side effects such as blood clots). But, I suspect the J&J and AZ vaccines will not be recommended for younger women to be on the safe side, and because there are other alternatives that are effective.
I also know that Westie is doing some research on a COVID vaccine delivered via semen. Exciting work for sure.
GG.
PedroMorales
04-19-21, 11:45
Should we not just take our chances? I have no intention of taking any vaccine (I never got a flu or pneumonia shot) except if I absolutely must travel (not for Pinay pussy). I think the risk is over estimated and that Western governments and health services are grossly incompetent, Big Pharma is the sweetest part of Wall St so FKK them.
I am around retirement age, fit, good diet, do very little if any risky stuff outside of sex.
Any idea why children must now be "vaccinated"? I thought they were immune, which sounds odd as the vulnerable are usually the ones who pop their clogs.
The AZ, J&J, Pfizer, Moderna and Sputnik V vaccines reduce the incidence of severe disease to a very low rate (with Pfizer and Moderna reducing this the most to <5% All the vaccines reduce the severity of COVID but none of the vaccines totally eliminate the risk of disease. In terms of "carrying" covid, the data suggests the vaccines reduce the ability of someone to get COVID with no symptoms and tranmit the virus to someone else. BUT. That data is only observational, the studies of this are ongoing, so don't count on this right now. That means you still need to mask (actually double mask, paper on bottom, cloth on top), distance, and good hand hygeine. You don't need to mask when you are eating filipina pussy however.
Most of the cases of blood clots are in younger women but not exclusively. However the risk of dying from COVID is higher than the risk of clots (to date). Also for the J&J vaccine, there is an ongoing study to see if 2 doses are needed.
I suspect for any of the vaccines booster doses will be required. That is just the way that some of these vaccines are.
WestCoast1
04-19-21, 14:29
I also know that Westie is doing some research on a COVID vaccine delivered via semen. Exciting work for sure.
GG.That's correct, GG. Dr. Westy's Research Institute, here at the Sam Houston Institute of Technology, is always: pushing forward. My efforts here are: ongoing. My patients here seem to be: pinay. My work is: plugging along. Injections are: intense and recurring. My method is: 'spike protein injection'. Regular booster shots are: encouraged. Patients say that after treatment they feel: very relaxed. The doctor finds his work: highly stimulating. Patients are encouraged to: pre-coat the injector with their own saliva (5 minutes shows a real promise, separate work is continues to be done in this area). With as many patients as I have, the doctor seems to have acquired: a herd.
In the pic, you can see that some of the injected vax is leaking out at the point of the injection. That happens sometimes. This girl will be encouraged to stop by again in a few days for a repeat injection. In fact this process might need to be repeated many times before she is fully immunized. She is not fully immunized until: the doctor says she is fully immunized.
Once the research is complete, I am hoping we can get an army of foreigners to come back here and learn my Der WestCoastian method of delivery, and get out there and deliver multiple jabs to as many pinay as possible. Gents, don't forget to bring your deliver tool with you.
That's correct, GG. Dr. Westy's Research Institute, here at the Sam Houston Institute of Technology, is always: pushing forward. My efforts here are: ongoing. My patients here seem to be: pinay. My work is: plugging along. Injections are: intense and recurring. My method is: 'spike protein injection'. Regular booster shots are: encouraged. Patients say that after treatment they feel: very relaxed. The doctor finds his work: highly stimulating. Patients are encouraged to: pre-coat the injector with their own saliva (5 minutes shows a real promise, separate work is continues to be done in this area). With as many patients as I have, the doctor seems to have acquired: a herd.
In the pic, you can see that some of the injected vax is leaking out at the point of the injection. That happens sometimes. This girl will be encouraged to stop by again in a few days for a repeat injection. In fact this process might need to be repeated many times before she is fully immunized. She is not fully immunized until: the doctor says she is fully immunized.
Once the research is complete, I am hoping we can get an army of foreigners to come back here and learn my Der WestCoastian method of delivery, and get out there and deliver multiple jabs to as many pinay as possible. Gents, don't forget to bring your deliver tool with you.Hahahahaha. So far the best post of 2021!
Hahahahaha. So far the best post of 2021!Ya, Mon. I also recently read that jizz protein is good ingredient for facial skin nutrition. I swear this is not bullshit! I am going to share the science of this with my naive nineteen year old GF as a prelude to our reunification.
Since I work in a COVID vaccine clinic, just a bit of advice to you guys:
-Don't take the chinese "killed virus" vaccines, only about 55% effective. Even their scientists say they are not good. China gave a lot of vaccine to many countries including PHIL.
-For you guys, the Astra-Zeneca-Oxford vaccine and the J&J vaccine (if available) are OK (most risk in younger women). The AZ vaccine is preferred as it provides more protection and is a 2 dose vaccine compared to the J&J vaccine.
-Russian Sputnik V seems good also based on published data in a major medical journal with a good reputation.
-The Pfizer (which is in PHIL) and Moderna vaccines, both 2 doses and both 90%+ effective even against some variants. These are the preferred.
This is a broad brush statement, so don't bust me on trivia with these. This is my area of expertise so I'm offering up the advice (maybe not worth 2 cents hahaha?
Good luck.
GG.Just to take issue with one aspect of your post, the Chinese never "gave" any Vax to Phils. They sold it.
Surprise! Surprise! The PI gov are refusing to discuss how much they paid invoking commercial confidence. I think that's Tagalog for. "We don't want you to know how much we skimmed for ourselves".
However, My main point in writing is that I read this a few weeks ago: https://thediplomat.com/2021/03/from-dengvaxia-to-sinovac-vaccine-hesitancy-in-the-philippines/ . It tells about the last time that Phils bought a vax from the Chinese that was meant to protect children from Dengue.
Ya, Mon. I also recently read that jizz protein is good ingredient for facial skin nutrition. I swear this is not bullshit! I am going to share the science of this with my naive nineteen year old GF as a prelude to our reunification.Speak to any Indonesian girl and she will tell you that deflowering a virgin boy is good for her skin. Many a school boy has found himself getting a lot more than a Big Mac and Coke from McDonalds when the girls are on the prowl.
Nannies have no problems with ensuring that their wards and his friends are very well cared for. Study Group at Jim's Place
No, I'm not joking.
Member #4794
04-21-21, 18:49
Philippines IATA Travel pass?
It looks like the Philippines is seriously considering reopening the latter half of this year at least trying to organize this digital passport and simplify this process hopefully. I downloaded the app to give it a test drive but it requires an invitation code right now.
It says it will be used "Philippine flag carrier's flights from Manila to LOS Angeles and Singapore on select dates from May to June 2021", So this kind of app imo is more geared towards business and tourists at least we see some prep work going into reopening travel.
Cebu Pacific also raised some money to help vaccinate I assume its staff and prepare for the domestic reopening. It will be interesting to see what requirements will be necessary / accepted to fly. Since vaccine efficacy is all over the place I have been putting it off so I can get the vaccine these airlines deem travel worthy, I also want to have them roll the variant booster shoot into my 2nd dose to avoid a 3 shot if possible.
"Philippine Airlines joins global trial for COVID-19 digital passport".
https://business.inquirer.net/321519/philippine-airlines-joins-global-trial-for-covid-19-digital-passport
US to citizens: Do not travel to Philippines amid 'high level' of COVID-19.
https://globalnation.inquirer.net/195357/fwd-us-to-citizens-dont-travel-to-ph-amid-high-level-of-covid-19
Most travel-related cases came from Philippines.
https://www.postguam.com/news/local/most-travel-related-cases-came-from-philippines/article_a9c9c3ac-a24b-11eb-a928-a3d8e814c7a4.html
Cebu Pacific Raises $250 Million As Gokongwei's Airline Prepares For Travel Recovery.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanburgos/2021/04/21/cebu-pacific-raises-250-million-as-gokongweis-airline-prepares-for-travel-recovery/
I had to use my travel credit by end of December. So I booked to Istanbul- Manila- Cebu- Bangkok- Pattaya in November. Hopefully everything will be open then. I have had vaccine back in January- Moderna.
Right now all the top hotels have good prices. Just do not pre pay. Pay at hotel only which can be cancelled couple days before. Got Conrad in Manila for $95 . Waterfront in Cebu was just $70 with breakfast. All 5 star hotels are cheap as well.
Member #4794
04-22-21, 03:53
Got Conrad in Manila for $95 .Any particular reason you picked Conrad, instead of something closer to the action? Do they have freelancers in the complex? Conrad is pretty deep into that mall of asia compound. When I was walking down mabini street these touts tried to get me to go to a brothel near mall of asia, they pointed to a spot north of the mall of asia. Is this some kind of mongering hotspot?
Waterfront I can understand its basically a giant brothel. Is this just proximity to the airport, as the conrad and waterfront are both pretty close to the airport?
Philippines IATA Travel pass?
It looks like the Philippines is seriously considering reopening the latter half of this year at least trying to organize this digital passport and simplify this process hopefully. I downloaded the app to give it a test drive but it requires an invitation code right now.
It says it will be used "Philippine flag carrier's flights from Manila to LOS Angeles and Singapore on select dates from May to June 2021", So this kind of app imo is more geared towards business and tourists at least we see some prep work going into reopening travel.
Cebu Pacific also raised some money to help vaccinate I assume its staff and prepare for the domestic reopening. It will be interesting to see what requirements will be necessary / accepted to fly. Since vaccine efficacy is all over the place I have been putting it off so I can get the vaccine these airlines deem travel worthy, I also want to have them roll the variant booster shoot into my 2nd dose to avoid a 3 shot if possible.
"Philippine Airlines joins global trial for COVID-19 digital passport".
https://business.inquirer.net/321519/philippine-airlines-joins-global-trial-for-covid-19-digital-passport
US to citizens: Do not travel to Philippines amid 'high level' of COVID-19.
https://globalnation.inquirer.net/195357/fwd-us-to-citizens-dont-travel-to-ph-amid-high-level-of-covid-19
Most travel-related cases came from Philippines.
https://www.postguam.com/news/local/most-travel-related-cases-came-from-philippines/article_a9c9c3ac-a24b-11eb-a928-a3d8e814c7a4.html
Cebu Pacific Raises $250 Million As Gokongwei's Airline Prepares For Travel Recovery.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/jonathanburgos/2021/04/21/cebu-pacific-raises-250-million-as-gokongweis-airline-prepares-for-travel-recovery/It would be natural that most of the travel related cases in Guam would come from the PI. Lived there for two years. For those who don't know, for some more of the advanced medical issues you have to go to Manila to the hospital to get treatment since they may not have a particular specialist on island. Not so much for those who make use of the Naval Hospital on Guam where if you really needed something advanced, they would fly you back to Tripler in Hawaii. Even your private health insurance policies in Guam have built into them the travel costs for at least 2 trips to Manila to see a doctor.
AussieGaigin
04-22-21, 13:28
It seems that not all the LBFMs who come to Australia get to cohabit with RWMs:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/carer-forced-to-work-in-supermarket-stopped-from-going-out-by-sydney-couple-20210421-p57l89.html
Member #4794
04-22-21, 15:47
It seems that not all the LBFMs who come to Australia get to cohabit with RWMs:Indentured servitude unfortunately is an all too common pinoy on pinoy crime. Almost all off the countries I've worked in and have had the chance to talk to the OFWs have indentured servants or "relatives" that work or very little or no pay. Sometimes direct payment to the worker is not given and could be in the form of payments back home so that they cannot "run away". If you hang out in the province long enough the OFWs often times try to take advantage of the family members because they are supporting them to begin with and since they aren't doing anything get talked into tending a store or being a yaya almost for free, I mean this happens on a lesser scale in the province to begin with but they see nothing wrong with it. They don't get paid for tending the sari-sari store, or watching the nieces and nephews, they might get paid inadvertently with food or shelter but rarely monetarily so one could see how this would not seem out of order to an OFW.
It seems that not all the LBFMs who come to Australia get to cohabit with RWMs:
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/carer-forced-to-work-in-supermarket-stopped-from-going-out-by-sydney-couple-20210421-p57l89.htmlThat seems about the norm in most places. Look at Singapore and all of those Pinay women working there. They only get one day off, Sunday that's why you see them all hanging out doing all of their money transfers, shopping, ettc. , and pre-COVID the bars in Orchard Towers would be at max capacity on a Sunday afternoon with women dancing the afternoon away before the 9 pm curfew some of them may have.
There are some that may have more liberal leaning employers but for the most part all those maids you see in places like Singapore, Hong Kong, etc. Are under the same rules.
AussieGaigin
04-23-21, 01:00
But the girls working in places like Singapore and Hong Kong would be under government approved and controlled programs, and actually get regular "wages" for their efforts.
I'm not aware of similar programs in Australia. We do have a "working holiday visa" program which allows foreigners limited working conditions, but Philippines is not a participating country.
This particular girl seems to have been "employed" illegally outside of our visa system, which is why it makes the news media. Similar cases have been reported before, many in the sex industry.
Mr Enternational
04-23-21, 04:03
That seems about the norm in most places. Look at Singapore and all of those Pinay women working there. They only get one day off, Don't they get less than that off in the Philippines?
Don't they get less than that off in the Philippines?I worked at place once where gate openers / security guards had rosters of 6 months on, never off. By that I mean they were on post for 6 months 24/7, had their food etc brought to them, had a small latrine and shower area nearby and at the end of the 6 months their contract was finished and they went home.
No idea what their salary was but there was no shortage of applicants.
That's correct, GG. Dr. Westy's Research Institute, here at the Sam Houston Institute of Technology, is always: pushing forward. My efforts here are: ongoing. My patients here seem to be: pinay. My work is: plugging along. Injections are: intense and recurring. My method is: 'spike protein injection'. Regular booster shots are: encouraged. Patients say that after treatment they feel: very relaxed. The doctor finds his work: highly stimulating. Patients are encouraged to: pre-coat the injector with their own saliva (5 minutes shows a real promise, separate work is continues to be done in this area). With as many patients as I have, the doctor seems to have acquired: a herd.
In the pic, you can see that some of the injected vax is leaking out at the point of the injection. That happens sometimes. This girl will be encouraged to stop by again in a few days for a repeat injection. In fact this process might need to be repeated many times before she is fully immunized. She is not fully immunized until: the doctor says she is fully immunized.
Once the research is complete, I am hoping we can get an army of foreigners to come back here and learn my Der WestCoastian method of delivery, and get out there and deliver multiple jabs to as many pinay as possible. Gents, don't forget to bring your deliver tool with you.Following on from the pioneering work carried out by Dr Westy, I had my deliver tool up and ready earlier this afternoon and carried out a 'spike protein injection' on one of my regulars here in Cebu City. It was administered orally, and I have found that there is less likelihood of leakage compared with a vaginal injection, especially when the patient swallows.
I also find my work to be highly stimulating.
The patient had no concerns or worries about the immunization treatment today and is aware that she needs to come back for a booster shot next week, though the next shot will be administered vaginally.
There are some pics below of the patient, down on her knees getting ready for the injection, then going to work on my deliver tool, and then after I shot my spike protein you can see her doing a full swallow to make sure there was no wastage.
Dr Mdemde.
WestCoast1
04-23-21, 19:37
Following on from the pioneering work carried out by Dr Westy, I had my deliver tool up and ready earlier this afternoon and carried out a 'spike protein injection' on one of my regulars here in Cebu City. It was administered orally, and I have found that there is less likelihood of leakage compared with a vaginal injection, especially when the patient swallows.
SNIP
There are some pics below of the patient, down on her knees getting ready for the injection, then going to work on my deliver tool, and then after I shot my spike protein you can see her doing a full swallow to make sure there was no wastage.You suffered through it magnificently, doctor. And the girl is further immunized*. Excellent der WestCoastian methodology there. The Members should use Mdemde's post as a primer.
Our work carries forward.
* I realize that semen-injection vaccination (S-I / V) takes a lot more than 2 doses. A LOT MORE. But the two-dose vaxes are expensive, and harm a lady's pocketbook. On the other hand, S-I / V can often times *help* a lady's pocketbook. Hence, the ladies here tend to "Fall in line", repeatedly. And this just in: Studies show that repeated S-I / V is effective whether administered orally, vaginally, anally, or facially. Gents, learning der WestCoastian method means you too can help eradicate this. Once that's done, our army of volunteers can then also go after influenza, rhinovirus, shingles, yeast infections, peanut allergy, H Pylori, rickets, gout-n-gerd, acne, in-grown toenails, scoliosis, and a variety of other ailments.
I routinely get excited about this work. The good we do. . . The good WE do!
You suffered through it magnificently, doctor. And the girl is further immunized*. Excellent der WestCoastian methodology there. The Members should use Mdemde's post as a primer.
Our work carries forward.Westy / Mdeme,
It's great to see you spreading inoculations far and wide. I think destitute single mothers form the ideal seed group for herd immunisation. They will return to their trike driving boyfriends and shabu addicted husbands and pass on the vaccine.
Perhaps consider contacting the Member for Manila in my previous post. Soon he will also be doing God's work, one facial at a time.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
04-24-21, 15:35
It's great to see you spreading inoculations far and wide. TYS. Fortunately yesterday I was able to inoculate a young lass less than half my age. Twice. I continue to plough myself into this work, thrusting home my agenda. She returns for another S-I / V treatment Monday, and she should be fully inoculated by Christmas. Following that, I intend to start inoculating her against possible sciatica. After that, fibromyalgia. These are busy times.
Soon he will also be doing God's work Praise be. Praise be!
WestCoast1
04-25-21, 06:07
From today's newspaper The Sunday Times. The Phils vaccine Czar is saying he expects herd immunity by October of this year. I nearly fell over this morning when I saw the headline in the newspaper. Is that possible?
According to the article: Another 100 k doses have arrived, bringing the total to 3. 525 million. The government says it needs to innoculate 70 million people to reach herd immunity. 1. 6 million have been inoculated, front-liners and seniors. The government expect a steady supply of vaccines starting third quarter of this year. They have a mass-vax simulation planned where they will be able to vax up to 120,000 persons per day. Multiple companies will be delivering jabs: Sinovac mostly so far, then CoronaVac, Sputnik V, and Moderna. In total, about 9 million doses with future arrivals.
How does that get to 70 million people inoculated?
Geneva Guy
04-25-21, 11:47
From today's newspaper The Sunday Times. The Phils vaccine Czar is saying he expects herd immunity by October of this year. I nearly fell over this morning when I saw the headline in the newspaper. Is that possible?
According to the article: Another 100 k doses have arrived, bringing the total to 3. 525 million. The government says it needs to innoculate 70 million people to reach herd immunity. 1. 6 million have been inoculated, front-liners and seniors. The government expect a steady supply of vaccines starting third quarter of this year. They have a mass-vax simulation planned where they will be able to vax up to 120,000 persons per day. Multiple companies will be delivering jabs: Sinovac mostly so far, then CoronaVac, Sputnik V, and Moderna. In total, about 9 million doses with future arrivals.
How does that get to 70 million people inoculated?Dr Westie:
Rather than questioning the govt's figures, my suggestion would be the following:
-Mobilize the western "work force" still in PHIL.
-Assign them to deliver semen COVID vaccine to a minimum of 2 filipinas / day, 7 days / week. If the word is spread to these young filipinas, they will line up for the vaccine.
-Again, each girl needs at least one dose now and one dose in 30 days. Preferably delivered intravaginally or anally.
-No need for a placebo group.
I bet I could write a very convincing letter to the editor of a Manilla paper touting the benefits of semen delivered COVID vaccine hahahahaha.
You do need to publish some results (with more pics) on this board.
GG.
Soapy Smith
04-25-21, 16:41
From today's newspaper The Sunday Times. The Phils vaccine Czar is saying he expects herd immunity by October of this year. I nearly fell over this morning when I saw the headline in the newspaper. Is that possible?
According to the article: Another 100 k doses have arrived, bringing the total to 3. 525 million. The government says it needs to innoculate 70 million people to reach herd immunity. 1. 6 million have been inoculated, front-liners and seniors. The government expect a steady supply of vaccines starting third quarter of this year. They have a mass-vax simulation planned where they will be able to vax up to 120,000 persons per day. Multiple companies will be delivering jabs: Sinovac mostly so far, then CoronaVac, Sputnik V, and Moderna. In total, about 9 million doses with future arrivals.
How does that get to 70 million people inoculated?Why do you assume they are using the Arabic number system? Perhaps they are employing the Alamblak number system, in which numbers are built from 1, 2, 5, and 20.
Member #4794
04-26-21, 21:01
How does that get to 70 million people inoculated?Short answer Lies and Magic. Truth is only 20% of the population WANT to get vaccinated and they have only jabed 1. 5 m single dose and 230 k fully vaccinated so it would take 33 years to vaccinate the population at the current rate and they also admitted that vaccinations due to the lock down have come to a screeching halt. They don't have cold storage physical facilities for a vaccine like modera or phizer on any meaningful scale. Lawmakers trying to push some discriminatory ordinance that would shame the anti-vaxers in order to see an uptick in vaccine adoption. Pretty much the shit show we all know and love to hate for the time being. Locking people down with 15-25 people in a single room does very little to social distance anyone in fact I think these lockdowns aid in the spread of the virus due to packing in the barangays with people who would otherwise sleep in shifts and pile up human waste. They have been basically double masking for over a year with the stupid face shields and still managed to hit record numbers of cases. They ignore doctors advice and have the inept military running the medical disaster response. As soon as the US opens back up despite all this silliness I think we see the Philippines miraculously welcome in vaccinated foreigners. Vaccinated foreigners will be injecting modified DNA into every willing philippina, so get ready to save lives by inoculating as many women as possible, you will be the new papa jesus, cream pies for all, they can't get it done so its "up to you".
"Philippines seeks to lift medical capacity as Covid-19 cases top one million".
https://mvariety.com/news/philippines-seeks-to-lift-medical-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-top-one-million/article_a36bbd88-a699-11eb-95d4-9be3d4a9f55d.html
"Discriminatory, you say? ".
https://manilastandard.net/opinion/columns/naked-thought-by-charlie-v-manalo/352796/discriminatory-you-say-.html
WestCoast1
04-27-21, 07:56
Short answer Lies and Magic. SNIP As soon as the US opens back up despite all this silliness I think we see the Philippines miraculously welcome in vaccinated foreigners. Maybe.
Vaccinated foreigners will be injecting modified DNA into every willing philippina, Maybe. Agree with many of the things you said. But a caution:
Here are several conditions. The US opens up (or other countries, say, in bubbles). Philippines vaccination rates takes much longer to get to any herd immunity (as per recently reported government vax numbers and MM's analysis). Phils welcomes vax-passported travelers. Willing Filipina. Those are all separate things. In chatting here in PM, or with others outside phils, there seems to be thinking that as soon as you can get your vax-passport and be allowed entry back into Phils, you are going to magically be back in P-paradise. Maybe yes, maybe no. Many of the Board gents are frequent guests here (as I was for more than a decade). They come / go for a week or a month, depending vacation time. They are dependent on hotels, apartments, and condos.
Just because the Phils allows vaxed travelers to come back does not necessarily change the ECQ / GCQ situation here, which is determined by the Government (not me, dammit). The 'CQ' situation determines what businesses are open. Regardless of location (Manila is the most strict), hotels / apartments / condos are still living under very strict rules (sometimes governed by fear), many allowing in only owners and registered guests who actually live there (no transient or temporary guests, as we are so used to bringing in ST / LT ladies. You might find yourself using ST hotels a lot.
I will guess that your vax-passport will get you into the country at some point, but you will have trouble finding a living arrangement where you can point / shoot this or that honey and bring her back to your place at will.
Other gents who live here feel free to weigh in, especially NCR members.
Short answer Lies and Magic. Truth is only 20% of the population WANT to get vaccinated and they have only jabed 1. 5 m single dose and 230 k fully vaccinated so it would take 33 years to vaccinate the population at the current rate and they also admitted that vaccinations due to the lock down have come to a screeching halt. They don't have cold storage physical facilities for a vaccine like modera or phizer on any meaningful scale. Lawmakers trying to push some discriminatory ordinance that would shame the anti-vaxers in order to see an uptick in vaccine adoption. Pretty much the shit show we all know and love to hate for the time being. Locking people down with 15-25 people in a single room does very little to social distance anyone in fact I think these lockdowns aid in the spread of the virus due to packing in the barangays with people who would otherwise sleep in shifts and pile up human waste. They have been basically double masking for over a year with the stupid face shields and still managed to hit record numbers of cases. They ignore doctors advice and have the inept military running the medical disaster response. As soon as the US opens back up despite all this silliness I think we see the Philippines miraculously welcome in vaccinated foreigners. Vaccinated foreigners will be injecting modified DNA into every willing philippina, so get ready to save lives by inoculating as many women as possible, you will be the new papa jesus, cream pies for all, they can't get it done so its "up to you".
"Philippines seeks to lift medical capacity as Covid-19 cases top one million".
https://mvariety.com/news/philippines-seeks-to-lift-medical-capacity-as-covid-19-cases-top-one-million/article_a36bbd88-a699-11eb-95d4-9be3d4a9f55d.html
"Discriminatory, you say? ".
https://manilastandard.net/opinion/columns/naked-thought-by-charlie-v-manalo/352796/discriminatory-you-say-.htmlNot to sound too jaded, but doesn't the Philippines have a lot of other curable diseases that vaccines have been readily available for years and yet they seem to be flourishing there in the PI. Look at their TB rates, measles, and other preventable diseases that Sally Struthers used to be hawking for your dimes to give to her organization so vaccines can be had in places like the PI, what makes people think that everyone is just going to fall in line and get this one?
Member #4794
04-27-21, 08:47
Not to sound too jaded, but doesn't the Philippines have a lot of other curable diseases that vaccines have been readily available for years and yet they seem to be flourishing there in the PI.I actually know a woman that used to work in Korea town in AC and she developed spinal tuberculosis, she daughter had a chronic cough that I was sure was not a normal cold and I'm sure she still has TB. She ended up taking a loan from her Korean employer for the spinal surgery and that's how she ended up eventually working in a bar. But about the actual adoption of the vaccine from my limited bar girl poll I have taken none of them are lining up to get this shot unless it becomes a condition for work. I think they will convince the general work force to get vaccinated primarily the ones who need to get a "Medical certificate" but everyone else I'm sure won't be lining up any time soon unfortunately.
Member #4794
04-27-21, 09:00
The 'CQ' situation determines what businesses are open.Point well taken, I have not had the pleasure of being under any CQ, I'm sure it is not fun. Not being able to get back in has made me anxious to get back in, but if I do get back in and things are a shadow of what it used to be. Is it worth the trip at that point? Hopefully things will evolve to a point where most things reopen by the time they do let us back in.
WestCoast1
04-28-21, 02:02
Point well taken, I have not had the pleasure of being under any CQ, SNIP Is it worth the trip at that point? Hopefully things will evolve to a point where most things reopen by the time they do let us back in.So some pics, showing how things have changed. Some 'CQ' in Manila. A waltz thru Agoda yesterday, looking at hotels / condos. Various laws, Brgy orders, DOH requirements, travel restrictions, and fears have lead hotels, apartments, and residences to enact restrictions on both current and inbound residents / guests.
First two pics, are the Red Planet requirements for all RP in the NCR. The chain has gone to quarantine-only (and some business travelers who can prove they are on business travel). The last two pics are also common in both hotels and residences in Manila.
Related current story. Recently I happened to take a walk down Mabini. Passing the Red Planet Mabini, I inquired with the guard about getting a room for the night. "No sir, this hotel is quarantine only. Not open for the public". OK, I will maybe book with a different RP. "No sir, all our hotels in NCR is now quarantine only". Check. I walked further up Mabini to chain Go Hotel. Four heavily armed police were milling about. I inquired with them. "No sir. Hotel not open to the public. Quarantine and hospital overflow. You should not be here". Check. Walked further up Mabini to City State. The guard said its closed. Looked across the street at Manila Lotus. "That is closed also". Are there any open hotels in Malate for the public? "I think only Eurotel sir". By Robinson's? "Yes sir". I called Eurotel, the girl asked if I wanted to reserve a Studio room. Yes, for me and my GF. "Oh, no sir. One person only per room. You want additional room for your girlfriend?" Sweetie, I am looking on Agoda, and all your rooms show good for two, three, or more persons. "Yes sir but its one person each room. Management orders". For reference, almost all biz on Mabini, del Pilar, and Adriatico are closed (including the vast majority of hotels and pensions), except convenience stores and the occasional Korean food takeout. Its a tomb out there.
When does this lighten up, or re-open? When numbers of new infections or deaths fall. Does that happen just because foreigners have vax passports?
This is West Coast, ASB-CGQ News, reporting from Manila.
So some pics, showing how things have changed.....Jeez, you're full of good news today😁.
How about mobility and physically moving around town? Are taxis / Grabs / Jeeps running?
I'm guessing the provinces are a lot better off but it's certainly not what we wanted to hear.
Stay safe. G.
Member #4794
04-28-21, 02:53
When does this lighten up, or re-open? When numbers of new infections or deaths fall. Does that happen just because foreigners have vax passports?
Maybe. Baiden just adjusted the mask requirement for fully vaccinated people so the world may start allowing fully vaccinated people run free. WHO and CDC have stated that fully vaccinated people should be allowed to roam free. Does this mean you can only co-mingle with other vaccinated people or will you be exempt from the QC measures all together? It is well within their best interests to implement such a policy, foreigners are basically walking ATMs. It doesn't make sense to restrict a fully vaccinated person especially if the US and Euro zones aren't doing it.
Back up plan: Main reason I have been so cozy with the bargirls and women online is I know of a few bar girl enclaves in the provinces in the south. I was mulling over renting a house from one of the respective other foreigners who own homes for rent in the province. The islands in the south seem to have their own bubbles for the most part so if you can make it into the bubble. It seems as if they let you live relatively unhindered. This would be my back up plan if AC is not fully or even partially open in a few months.
WestCoast1
04-28-21, 03:48
Back up plan: Main reason I have been so cozy with the bargirls and women online is I know of a few bar girl enclaves in the provinces in the south. I was mulling over renting a house from one of the respective other foreigners who own homes for rent in the province. The islands in the south seem to have their own bubbles for the most part so if you can make it into the bubble. It seems as if they let you live relatively unhindered. This would be my back up plan if AC is not fully or even partially open in a few months.TBH, this is a much better plan. Finding your own apartment or home away from the city might mean that nobody is watching after you or your guests. Downside: No security guard is watching out for you or your guest. More on this later.
WestCoast1
04-28-21, 03:53
Jeez, you're full of good news todayThere's more good news. Will get to the mobility part later.
In your Residence or hotel (lets use Birch Tower as an example). You have, say 4 elevators. Each has a stated capacity of 15 persons (recently saw smaller elevators with capacity 20 -- yikes). That's 4 x15 = capacity 60 persons moving in elevators at one time. But its Covid, and the DOH limits capacity to just 4 persons per elevator. One day, one of the elevators needs maintenance and stops working. It is being repaired for several days. Capacity has gone from 60, to just 12 (3 elevators x 4 persons). If you've been to Birch Tower, you know the pre-covid long waits (not enough elevators). Current Covid means that it might be easier (or faster) for you to walk down rather than take the elevator.
A (bad, but not uncommon) example. You are on floor 10, wanting to go downstairs to pick up your Grab food, or grocery shop. You call the elevator. You can hear it rising from below. It shoots past you, going up, carrying 4 persons upward, to floor 20. Those 4 persons depart the elevator and 4 new persons enter the elevator, now going down. The elevator stops on 19, but no new passengers as its full. It also stops on 18,17, 16, and so on, all the way to the ground floor. After a while, you abandon the ride, or you walk down the stairs.
Another. 25 persons are waiting at the ground floor elevators to go upstairs. As each elevator arrives at the ground floor and exits 4 passengers, 4 of your lobby-mates board it. You hope everyone is queuing, hoping that since you are the 13th person to arrive at the elevators, you will be on the 4th elevator. But the crowd is growing downstairs, and new arrivals are crowding the doors. Good luck!
Member #4794
04-28-21, 09:19
Ray of hope? "fully vaccinated foreign tourists" the holy cow theory I have about allowing vaccinated tourists seems to be becoming a reality. I have a few personal reasons why I don't want to travel to Cebu but if it happens there the whole country should fall in line.
Lapu-Lapu, Cebu mayor wants fully vaccinated foreign tourists allowed entry in city.
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/regional/2021/4/27/Lapu-Lapu-mayor-foreign-tourists-entry.html
GoodEnough
04-28-21, 10:14
Ray of hope? "fully vaccinated foreign tourists" the holy cow theory I have about allowing vaccinated tourists seems to be becoming a reality. I have a few personal reasons why I don't want to travel to Cebu but if it happens there the whole country should fall in line.
Lapu-Lapu, Cebu mayor wants fully vaccinated foreign tourists allowed entry in city.
https://www.cnnphilippines.com/regional/2021/4/27/Lapu-Lapu-mayor-foreign-tourists-entry.htmlThe Mayor will have nothing much to do with it however. That's a decision that will be made by President Duterte and the Department of Health.
GE.
Member #4794
05-01-21, 09:26
Not yet tourists but a step in the right direction? The Inter-Agency Task Force is really the problem here, until they reorganize that the odd ball policies will continue imo.
PH was also counting on 49 m doses of vaccine from India but seeing how India has vaccine shortages and a massive covid problem of its own that is not going to happen pushing that time line back.
"PH allows entry of foreign nationals beginning May 1".
https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1893237/Manila/Local-News/Philippines-allows-entry-of-foreign-nationals-beginning-May-1
WestCoast1
05-01-21, 10:21
How about mobility and physically moving around town? Are taxis / Grabs / Jeeps running?Province: No problems. Had access to Grab taxi's (no regular Grab cars ever existed there). Grab vehicles got strict on the plastic. Not the clear cling-wrap kind of plastic, but solid plexiglass separating the front seats from the back. You must sit in the back, its required. You are in for hot ride during the daytime, as the aircon flow does not move past that plexiglass. Some drivers started breaking the plexi-rule. They purchased a 2" diameter PVC pipe, and used duct tape to afix one end of the pipe to the dashboard aircon vent. They cut a 2" hole in the plexiglass and pushed the other end of the pipe thru that, so that cold air flows thru the pvc pipe. Even with the pipe, you will still burn up, just less.
The first few weeks of the province lockdown last year there were no PUV running. The air went from crap to pristine. After that, they re-started PUV's, socially-distanced. For example, trykes. In my city, tryke traffic is strictly controlled, starting with color-coding the trykes themselves. In each vehicle pre-Covid, there is room for one passenger on either side of the driver, and 4 passengers on each side bench in the back (4 on the right, 4 on the left), a total of 10 pasengers. Since Covid, they eliminated the passengers in the front next to the driver, provided a safety harness to the driver in case of accident, and distanced passengers in the back to 2 on each side (leaving 2 spots open between the forward and rear passenger). There is a piece of thin clear plastic between the 2 passengers on each side in the back. Cost went from pre-Covid p7, to Covid p10. The RTA guys started strictly enforcing where the trykes were *not* supposed to go (each Brgy's trykes are uniquely color-coded).
All habals stopped for a long time. After they restarted, there is a large plastic shield on the driver's back. Cost went up.
Jeeps. Pre-Covid, most large jeeps carried 2 passengers in the front, and 11 on each side in the back (rack them, stack them, and pack them). Since Covid, no passengers in the front, and 6 on each side in the back, with a plastic cling-wrap type liner between passengers (similar to tryke). Those pieces of plastic didn't last long with the wind blowing around at speed. Or worse, they did, and they have everyone else's sneeze patterns on them, blowing around wildly at times, slapping you in the face shield (I called it getting 'Covid-slapped' So THAT'S why we have to wear face shields. Cost went from minimum p8, to minimum p15 (adding +5 or +7 to most previous fares) for a while, then some went back down to 10. I continued to take lot of trykes and jeeps.
Taxi's. All taxi's, including Grab, now have a cage around the driver, made with pvc pipe and clear plastic. Its great. It means with your mask on and his mask on, and the plastic between you, when you tell the driver to take you to Isabella street, he might take you to Rockefeller street. You are supposed to sit in the back seat. I like to sit in the front seat. Costs didn't change; flagfall = p40, p2 per minute, and p13.5 per KM. You can sit in the front of a taxi (but not Grab).
Manila: Traffic is way down. Arrived at NAIA on a Wednesday, 4 pm. Easily got a taxi, and was at my hotel in Makati in 15 minutes. At no time of day have I seen rush-hour traffic (yet). All the above is pretty much the same except the trikes in Manila tend to take only 2 persons before or after Covid (its a motorcycle with a small side car that can barely hold 2 people; as opposed to the province with much larger trykes where the passengers ride in the back (up to 8).
Manila Grab. I have a solid complaint. You might think that there would be lots of available Grab taxi's in Manila. Using the app to choose a pickup and destination spot, the app usually shows Grab Taxi's, and Grab Cars. Just choose one and book it. I have found that when I click Grab Taxi, I often get an error immediately from Grab: "Can not connect to server". This is a lie. Clicking several times on the Taxi continues to get the error message. But if you then click on the more expensive Grab car, it connects right away. I discovered that by changing back to the Grab Taxi, it then connects and all is good. Its an attempt to get you to take the more expensive Grab Car. #don'tthinkI'mnotwatchingyouGrab.
By Margret Fermin -May 3, 2021.
The Bureau of Immigration (BI) reminded the public that foreign tourists are still banned from entering the Philippines despite the lifting of certain travel restrictions that took effect Saturday.
In a statement, BI Commissioner Jaime Morente stressed that only foreigners with valid and existing visas are currently allowed to enter the country.
"Foreign tourists are still prohibited from entering the country and said restriction remains effective until it is lifted by the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases (IATF-MEID) " Morente said.
He explained that the country only reverted to implementing the travel international guidelines that existed prior to March 22 when the government reimposed a ban on the entry of all foreigners due to recent spike in COVID-19 cases in the country.
"The recent easing of travel restrictions applies only to those aliens who were allowed to come here before March 22 and they should have valid and existing visas at the time of their arrival in our ports of entry," the BI chief added.
The BI earlier announced that starting May 1 aliens with existing immigrant and non-immigrant visas may again enter the country.
Exempted from the visa requirement are the foreign spouse and children of Balikbayans or returning Filipinos and former Filipinos who are travelling with the latter.
Foreigners who are holders of valid and existing Special Resident and Retirees Visa (SRRV) or Section 9 (a) temporary visitors' visas may be allowed entry, provided they present an entry exemption document from the Department of Foreign Affairs upon arrival.
Execept for foreign diplomats and members of international organizations, all foreign travelers are required to present a pre-booked accommodation for at least seven nights in an accredited quarantine hotel of facility where they will be tested for COVID-19 on the sixth day from date of their arrival.
The BI also emphasied that following the IATF-MEID, travellers who came from India or have a travel history to India within the last 14 days preceding their arrival are banned from entering the country until May 14.
https://philippineslifestyle.com/foreign-tourists-still-banned-from-ph-bi-reminds-public/
WestCoast1
05-05-21, 05:10
Manila: Traffic is way down. Arrived at NAIA on a Wednesday, 4 pm. Easily got a taxi, and was at my hotel in Makati in 15 minutes. At no time of day have I seen rush-hour traffic (yet).Shots of Taft Ave, near Ocampo, mid-afternoon. First 2 pics from the east side of the street (looking both north and south). Last 2 pics from the west side of the street (looking north, and south). Same on Mabini. At times its a tomb out there. OTOH, the Monday and Tuesday this week following Labor Day holiday the traffic has been considerably worse.
Short answer Lies and Magic. Truth is only 20% of the population WANT to get vaccinated and they have only jabed 1. 5 m single dose and 230 k fully vaccinated so it would take 33 years to vaccinate Those that don't get the vaccine will get a more natural set of antibodies by contracting the disease and recovering. Lots of unknowns and mutations. I am sure that once the western countries have their / our home countries secured then there will be more effort to bring along the developing world.
WestCoast1
05-05-21, 13:27
Short answer Lies and Magic. Truth is only 20% of the population WANT to get vaccinated and they have only jabed 1. 5 m single dose and 230 k fully vaccinated so it would take 33 years to vaccinate the population at the current rate and they also admitted that vaccinations due to the lock down have come to a screeching halt.
Those that don't get the vaccine will get a more natural set of antibodies by contracting the disease and recovering. Lots of unknowns and mutations. I am sure that once the western countries have their / our home countries secured then there will be more effort to bring along the developing world.And news out in the last week that the US is now in the same boat. Jabs have fallen in the last few weeks from 3 million per day to under 2 million. A large portion of the population is either unsure, or does not want, a jab. States are now in the position moving excess jabs to states with greater need. Excess jabs: Who would have thunk it? Herd immunity might be far off. Some reading:
Popular Science: https://www.popsci.com/story/health/covid-19-herd-immunity-unlikely-in-america/.
Fox News: https://www.foxnews.com/health/herd-immunity-looking-unlikely-in-us-report-says.
WestCoast1
05-07-21, 01:43
By Margret Fermin -May 3, 2021.
The Bureau of Immigration (BI) reminded the public that foreign tourists are still banned from entering the Philippines despite the lifting of certain travel restrictions that took effect Saturday.
SNIP
The BI also emphasied that following the IATF-MEID, travellers who came from India or have a travel history to India within the last 14 days preceding their arrival are banned from entering the country until May 14.Harsh. Man, that's harsh.
Morsel: Tiny provincial beauty, the opposite of harsh.
WestCoast1
05-11-21, 10:12
In today's Daily Tribune newspaper, article "Herd Immunity achievable - Panelo", by Jomelle Garner (print version only, can't find it online). According to the article, Philippines received 7. 5 M doses this month (AstraZenica and Sinovac). "Panelo also said National Task Force Against Covid-19 Chief Implementer and vaccine czar Secretary Carlito Galvez Jr told him that 44 million doses of Covid-19 vaccines are expected to arrive in June. Galvez added that at least 13.5 million vaccines are expected to be shipped to the country in July. The vaccines czar said the country needed 15 million vaccines per month to inoculate 70 percent of the population of 110 million Filipinos and achieve herd immunity before the end of the year".
Member #4794
05-13-21, 06:57
Reekaay recently posted his experience with covid in the Philippines. At first glance I was inclined to believe Reekaay but as foreigners in phils we all of a sudden are awarded a honorary PhD in medicine. We all know every foreigner knows best when it comes to medical issues and we are never wrong. Dr. Google would never lie to us or lead us astray we after all have a natural affinity for figuring out health problems and solving them right? Reekaay is saying that he got a false positive covid test. However there are studies that show a black fungal infection coincides with a covid infection. As seen in the due diligence below which was not in favor of Reekaays biased opinion. So Reekaay could very well have been guilty of what his subscribers were accusing him of being a super spreader of said virus. Of course he would want to refute this and try to debunk the fact that he had covid or spread it however after going over the facts provided by the guy himself it looks as if we was spreading this virus around and has the secondary black mold infection as a tell tale sign of the covid infection. He went into how one can possibly get this infection in his video trying to pass it off, however this virus has proven to cultivate this infection allowing it to take hold in covid patients. I am sure he in even now unaware of this fact and is still trying to deny his part in spreading covid.
I think there are 2 wrongs here.
#1 Locals often times choose to ignore foreigners concerns and disregard them. I feel as if foreigners innately look down on the medical care philipinos provide and the medical staff picks up on this pretty easily and holds it against them.
#2 Foreigners do a few google searches and instantly think they are an expert on said issues. Overstayroad's Marcos learned the hard way that what he thought was chicken pox was HFMD instead, foreigners often miss diagnose their illness, cause confusion, interject miss information and extra work when these medical professionals are trying their best to help.
It sounds as if they are just troll bashing Reekaay but he very well could have been spreading covid around, and he is extremely unapologetic about it and adamantly trying to indemnify himself.
What is your take of Foreigners and their obsession with Dr. Google? Why so much miss trust in medical professionals in phils (I know why just want to see what everyone else has to say about this)? Think Reekaay should be more apologetic?
"Rhino-Orbital Mucormycosis Associated With COVID-19".
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7599039/
JonesLover
05-16-21, 14:55
Hello,
How is the Covid-19 situation in the Philippine Islands in general (Luzon) and in the other islands?
WestCoast1
05-16-21, 23:56
Hello,
How is the Covid-19 situation in the Philippine Islands in general (Luzon) and in the other islands?Read back the last 5 pages of this forum (General Info). Also the last few pages of the Makati forum.
Member #4794
05-19-21, 09:02
Yet another youtuber in the Philippines tests positive for covid (philly in the philippines). They go in and expect a negative test because they "feel ok" but the only reason why Philippines covid numbers remain low is because almost no one willingly takes these tests. They associate covid is serious illness which is a single digit piece of the covid pie. I would say almost all covid positive people are asymptomatic. You have to be extremely lucky / unlucky to get any symptoms. In my opinion COVID has been and is currently raging and has never stopped in the Philippines despite their non reporting of the cases due to non existent testing. But the foreigners all start attacking the health care system and try to discredit the tests where as if they received a negative test they wouldn't have looked into any of it. Bottom line is these foreigners HAVE had covid and they don't understand that the reason why having covid is dangerous is breeding variants. The original covid (0. 01% mortality rate) virus wasn't like MERS (36% mortality rate) or SARS (55% mortality rate) fairly benign to over 95% of the population but it has the possibility of turning into a much more deadly variant which is slowed down by quarantining yourself as to not foster an environment where variants are developed. Reekaay actually developed a far more deadly ailment aside from covid the black mold illness (Mucormycosis) has a (50% mortality rate). Which means our normal everyday hotels in the Philippines have a far reaching and extremely hazardous problem which is black mold spores in the air conditioning systems. Which is why you wouldn't want to quarantine in a "budget" hotel. Foreigners seem to have the extremely selfish misconception that this if you aren't sick you should be able to run around. Until they do have significant uptake in the vaccine it is still a giant petri dish for possible variants.
In honor of the inevitable preparation of the vaccine passport I scheduled my mutant mRNA vaccine, I heard that most places are putting the Pfizer, Moderna & JNJ vaccines on the vaccine passport list I went with moderna. Remember to keep your card in a safe place, might be the single most important paper we bring with up to that customs counter. June / July ticket prices to the Philippines starting to skyrocket.
GoodEnough
05-19-21, 12:24
Yet another youtuber in the Philippines tests positive for covid (philly in the philippines). They go in and expect a negative test because they "feel ok" but the only reason why Philippines covid numbers remain low is because almost no one willingly takes these tests. They associate covid is serious illness which is a single digit piece of the covid pie. I would say almost all covid positive people are asymptomatic. You have to be extremely lucky / unlucky to get any symptoms. In my opinion COVID has been and is currently raging and has never stopped in the Philippines despite their non reporting of the cases due to non existent testing. But the foreigners all start attacking the health care system and try to discredit the tests where as if they received a negative test they wouldn't have looked into any of it. Bottom line is these foreigners HAVE had covid and they don't understand that the reason why having covid is dangerous is breeding variants. The original covid (0. 01% mortality rate) virus wasn't like MERS (36% mortality rate) or SARS (55% mortality rate) fairly benign to over 95% of the population but it has the possibility of turning into a much more deadly variant which is slowed down by quarantining yourself as to not foster an environment where variants are developed. Reekaay actually developed a far more deadly ailment aside from covid the black mold illness (Mucormycosis) has a (50% mortality rate). Which means our normal everyday hotels in the Philippines have a far reaching and extremely hazardous problem which is black mold spores in the air conditioning systems. Which is why you wouldn't want to quarantine in a "budget" hotel. Foreigners seem to have the extremely selfish misconception that this if you aren't sick you should be able to run around. Until they do have significant uptake in the vaccine it is still a giant petri dish for possible variants.
In honor of the inevitable preparation of the vaccine passport I scheduled my mutant mRNA vaccine, I heard that most places are putting the Pfizer, Moderna & JNJ vaccines on the vaccine passport list I went with moderna. Remember to keep your card in a safe place, might be the single most important paper we bring with up to that customs counter. June / July ticket prices to the Philippines starting to skyrocket.As some may know, I live in Davao, in Southern Mindanao. Yesterday received my first dose of the Pfizer vaccine, the use of which has been expanding rapidly here as the country seems to acquire millions of additional doses with every week that passes. To date, as far as I know, the Pfizer doses are reserved for those of us who are at least 60. AstraZeneca-Oxford is also being used widely, but again strictly for senior citizens. Aside from frontline medical personnel—most of whom appear to have received the Sinovac (Chinese) vaccine—the vaccine distribution is still limited to senior citizens and this limitation will likely continue through June. The vaccination certificate (card) that I received notes the vaccine type and the batch number and I was cautioned to retain the card, which now sits next to my passport.
I cannot speak for areas outside of Davao, but here at least stringent mask requirements are observed as is the wearing of face shields. Virtually all commercial establishments of whatever type require masks and shields and are quick to enforce the mandate. The police presence on the streets is almost ubiquitous and motorists—including Jeepney drivers, trike drivers and cab drivers—are pulled over if appropriate masking protocols are not followed. Masks are also required even for private cars and again, this rule is enforced. The bottom line is that the city appears to be doing what it can to reduce the spread.
The government has not, to my knowledge, provided any information regarding a relaxation of the rules restricting the entry of foreigners. My assumption is that the rules will not be relaxed until a higher percentage of Filipinos has been vaccinated. For those of you anxious to return here, I would not count on re-entering the country any time in the near future. The vaccine rollout here is just moving into a higher gear.
GE.
Wicked Roger
05-19-21, 12:26
Hello,
How is the Covid-19 situation in the Philippine Islands in general (Luzon) and in the other islands?Westie said nicely RTFF and I can add to read the local news online. Can tell you the same mostly. I read online Philippines news during the week and if you spend 15 minutes on various sites you can get a feel also.
What is your take of Foreigners and their obsession with Dr. Google? Why so much miss trust in medical professionals in phils (I know why just want to see what everyone else has to say about this)? Saw this post and wrote a long reply which I deleted. I have had good medical treatment for locally acquired illnesses in Ph in the years 2017-2018 when I lived there. As to my opinions of the chances of ongoing good health care in Ph, I will cherry pick a few indicators:
Average life span Ph 71.1 Au 81.
USA CDC Budget $1 B.
PH CDC (as of December 2020 still being established).
Number of doctors per head of population (PH 0. 6/1,000 people, USA 2. 6/1,000 AU 3. 4/1,000).
Number of medical patents issued to Ph doctors and research companies?
Number of Filipino doctors awarded international honours.
Number of medical papers published by the Filipino research community?
For me the issue if that the Filipino medical system is bouncing along the bottom barely able to sustain itself and unable to do the higher level thinking that we see in the west. Of course there are individual differences. Systemically it's hard to see Ph being a leading country for medical advances and treatments.
I cherry picked facts and did not do any rigorous analysis. just wanted to establish a vibe that Ph is an emerging economy and simply doesn't have the institutional structures to support a high performing medical system.
Member #4794
05-21-21, 06:57
Number of doctors per head of population (PH 0. 6/1,000 people, USA 2. 6/1,000 AU 3. 4/1,000).
That is a reasonable assumption that the Philippines may have a lower standard of care however if you do seek out a western country level of care you should be able to find one befitting such a price tag of course. (There was a post here about people flying to manila from Guam because medical care is better in manila.) This would then make a strong case for never going to a local hospital / witch doctor and always visiting a highest ranked hospital in whatever hole you happen to be in. I would also suggest you tell them to NOT cut corners in lieu of cost. (I routinely go to the dentist in phils, I actually still do this because its much cheaper and they always try to do procedures without anesthetic. I have to explicitly tell them to not cut corners with me. You get what you pay for in this instance.) Since as a foreigner you can afford a higher standard of care (or should be able to) you should have no problem paying for it.
Would a western doctor be better than a local doctor I would of course say yes due to better funding better resources and better education. But I would also make the argument that even the most poorly trained "doctor" or "nurse" for that matter is going to have better medical knowledge than your average foreigner. Its quite arrogant to think that some foreigner with 15 minutes of searching can be as adept as a medical professional of any kind. Confirmation bias is a slippery slope and Philly in the Philippines has just recently done some Dr. Google research and found an article that went along with his hypothesis that undermined the legitimacy of his covid test. He now has gone through the proper channels and has done the test correctly and has not yet released the result of that test. However it is his own fault for not being thorough in the first place and going to a reputable medical professional. So finding fault with some hole in the wall usually "fake" clinic should come as no surprise, not going through the proper channels has it price. Philly is a great guy but he has a hard time reading things out loud and I posit that it is dangerous for someone to be making medical decisions without proper training. I would be very surprised if these foreigners understand confirmation bias. Medical papers are filled with caveats and someone who has a hard time reading to begin with is not going to be able to navigate that well enough to come to a "safe" conclusion. Have I met my share of very nice expats? Yes! Have I met my share of smart expats? A resounding no? I would ask you this question would you take Reekaays or Phillys heath advice over a bonified doctor? I hope you are saying no here. My argument is that they shouldn't take their own advice either.
Westie said nicely RTFF.Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? Oh no! I asked a question. Heaven forbid. What was I thinking! I will stand down and RTFF starting 5 pages back to see if Westie or anyone else on the RTFF squad has been using live bullets instead of tasers to discourage discourse on the ISG. LOL.
Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? {Massive snip}No. What you can infer is that the members who take the time to provide valuable information to other forum users have the reasonable expectation that people will at least check the forum and / or use the search function before asking a question that may have been asked many times before. It's quite a reasonable expectation as well. RTFF!
WestCoast1
05-22-21, 04:06
Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? Oh no! I asked a question. Heaven forbid. What was I thinking! I will stand down and RTFF starting 5 pages back to see if Westie or anyone else on the RTFF squad has been using live bullets instead of tasers to discourage discourse on the ISG. LOL.
No. What you can infer is that the members who take the time to provide valuable information to other forum users have the reasonable expectation that people will at least check the forum and / or use the search function before asking a question that may have been asked many times before. It's quite a reasonable expectation as well. RTFF!
How is the Covid-19 situation in the Philippine Islands in general (Luzon) and in the other islands?Westy is confused. I think it was Jonesy who asked the Covid question on May 16,2021, not Rose.
My understanding of the 94% and 95% effectiveness is after second shot. Why not just wait for both shots and then go?That's from page 15 in this thread, December 31,2020.
We have been discussing Covid on this thread (and other Phils threads) since it started a year ago. Covid has dominated the discussions in this thread for much more than 5 pages. I just chose 5 pages as an example. Having people like Jones asking a general question that we've been answering / discussing for some time means we need to re-answer them. Its easier on the responding members, and expected, that members will RTTF before asking questions, so we don't have another member pop off again in a few days with: "How's the Covid situation over there? Will it open up soon for travelers?" Jones' question does not encourage discourse on the topic. Discourse involves both the giving and taking of information; asking a general question, like "Where do I find the best girls?" does not foster discourse. If Jones' or others have specific info to offer on the topic (or any topic), that would be great.
The best way to find out information about your question is to RTTF first. If you can't find an answer, PM one of us. If you still can't find an answer, posit your question on the open board. After that, post some Field Reports of your travels (otherwise it will appear you are taking, without giving back).
Rose I think you will find, if you look back thru the Phils threads, that when newbs ask general questions (that have previously been answered), it works out well for the newb only. The Board regulars who (re-) respond to his question take their time to do so in the expectation that he will write up some descriptive Field Reports upon his visit in-country. However most such newbs don't bother to do that. And anudder ting: 5 pages is spit. If you are making your first trip to Phils and want info about both Burgos and AC (not uncommon), then please read back 20 pages in each of these forums: Manila, Makati, Angeles City. Its a few hours and a wealth of information (and also some BS, admittedly some from myself).
CheckMate1
05-22-21, 19:07
Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? Oh no! I asked a question. Heaven forbid. What was I thinking! I will stand down and RTFF starting 5 pages back to see if Westie or anyone else on the RTFF squad has been using live bullets instead of tasers to discourage discourse on the ISG. LOL.Yeah, you're going thousands of miles to a place you haven't been, looking for fun that the majority of population frown upon, and you have available resources to read to catch up. But it is too hard to read 5, 10,50 pages to research for your answer like an adult.
This is not a shaming statement. Only to point out that many, including me, at the beginning, like to get the information as quickly as possible because we've been asleep during class. Slow down, take a breath, and read a little bit. Every minute / hour you read, WILL save you a ton of issues going forward, when you will be taking on live bullets from bad situations.
Wicked Roger
05-22-21, 23:24
Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? Oh no! I asked a question. Heaven forbid. What was I thinking! I will stand down and RTFF starting 5 pages back to see if Westie or anyone else on the RTFF squad has been using live bullets instead of tasers to discourage discourse on the ISG. LOL.
Westy is confused.
The best way to find out information about your question is to RTTF first. If you can't find an answer, PM one of us. If you still can't find an answer, posit your question on the open board. After that, post some Field Reports of your travels (otherwise it will appear you are taking, without giving back).
Rose I think you will find, if you look back thru the Phils threads, that when newbs ask general questions (that have previously been answered), it works out well for the newb only. The Board regulars who (re-) respond to his question take their time to do so in the expectation that he will write up some descriptive Field Reports upon his visit in-country. However most such newbs don't bother to do that. And anudder ting: 5 pages is spit. If you are making your first trip to Phils and want info about both Burgos and AC (not uncommon), then please read back 20 pages in each of these forums: Manila, Makati, Angeles City. Its a few hours and a wealth of information (and also some BS, admittedly some from myself).West is your age = confusion but I think there are medicines for that LOL.
My first trip to Philippines many years ago I spend over an hour RTFF and I PM a few seniors (Love Asian W was a big contributor then). They were all helpful as I showed I did my research and posed specific questions unlike many newbs.
Loso 69 did the same on his first visit to the UAE and PM me a few times, did lots of RTFF, arrived we met and partied, he was helped with pinay contact s and had a great time.
5 pages is lazy and that is being nice, 50 is more like it and on each thread as the info here is very good when compared to others.
No. What you can infer is that the members who take the time to provide valuable information to other forum users have the reasonable expectation that people will at least check the forum and / or use the search function before asking a question that may have been asked many times before. It's quite a reasonable expectation as well. RTFF!Nicely put Stykler, some still won't understand this erudite way of saying RTFF but it is a fact.
Can we infer that your pal Westie isn't always nice about saying RTFF? Oh no! I asked a question. Heaven forbid. What was I thinking! I will stand down and RTFF starting 5 pages back to see if Westie or anyone else on the RTFF squad has been using live bullets instead of tasers to discourage discourse on the ISG. LOL.See above and please contribute and if not please PM me / anyone who you think maybe able to help as PM is a way of sharing digits and contacts that can't be done openly on the board.
So easy, so simple but some as they say on the UAE are managers / directors LOL.
FYI the only bullets I like are hard bullet like nipples on a pinay LOL.
WestCoast1
05-24-21, 00:48
West is your age = confusion but I think there are medicines for that LOL.It would seem there are medicines for a variety of things these days. Smile.
Gents, it would seem Dr. Westy's vaxxing efforts are still underway. This unfortunate leakage was from this 22 yo's second dosing of the morning. The first dose held strong inside, but an hour later some of the second dose spilled out. The girl felt bad about this. However the doctor is facing some exhaustion in his work and needs a day or so of rest. She has asked to come again in a few days for what the doctor describes as: a solid double-dose. Wish me luck.
It would seem there are medicines for a variety of things these days. Smile.
Gents, it would seem Dr. Westy's vaxxing efforts are still underway. This unfortunate leakage was from this 22 yo's second dosing of the morning. The first dose held strong inside, but an hour later some of the second dose spilled out. The girl felt bad about this. However the doctor is facing some exhaustion in his work and needs a day or so of rest. She has asked to come again in a few days for what the doctor describes as: a solid double-dose. Wish me luck.Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!
Member #4794
05-24-21, 12:55
Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!Leave this to the professionals, untrained would be mongers concerned about safety should not attempt this under any circumstance. I would suggest the doubling up on the condom, plastic wrap and face mask routine if you are concerned about safety.
WestCoast1
05-24-21, 15:33
Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!Guessing a legit answer is "less than" without, and "greater than" with. Another question previously asked-and-answered (numerous times) on the Phils forum. Remember, do what Westy says, not what Westy does. You cover up.
Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!Seriously you are asking this on a forum dedicated to sex travel? Google every answer and multiply that by 70. You will need many paralegals to help you figure that one out.
Member #4794
05-26-21, 03:27
Guessing a legit answer is "less than" without, and "greater than" with. Another question previously asked-and-answered (numerous times) on the Phils forum. Remember, do what Westy says, not what Westy does. You cover up.Upon closer inspection (the lack of a question mark) he was telling YOU to cover up. It was a rhetorical exclamation, I guess in India raw doging is not a thing? Cream pies are the best thing about the philippines. I get pushback in other monger destinations. Philippines is still (I hope it still is when I get back) the land of cream pies / GFE.
Mr Enternational
05-26-21, 04:27
Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!What the fuck. How safe is it to walk across the street without looking both ways? How safe is it to ski down the bunny slope? How safe is it to put money into bitcoin? Whatever you do, you assume your own risk. Nobody can tell you how safe it is to stick your dick into any random pussy that you may encounter on this planet.
Upon closer inspection (the lack of a question mark) he was telling YOU to cover up. It was a rhetorical exclamation...Someone gets an A for Observation. 😁.
What the fuck. How safe is it to walk across the street without looking both ways? How safe is it to ski down the bunny slope? How safe is it to put money into bitcoin? Whatever you do, you assume your own risk. Nobody can tell you how safe it is to stick your dick into any random pussy that you may encounter on this planet.After years of empirical analysis, I'd give it a 83.2% rating, dipping to 68.4% on Thursdays.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
05-26-21, 10:14
Curious to know how safe is to monger without condom!BenZ, continue to watch this space. Guessing BenZ is not familiar with the body of my work here.
After years of empirical analysis, I'd give it a 83.2% rating, dipping to 68.4% on Thursdays.That's what I was thinking. Thanks gents, BenZ has his answer (s). Not sure whether that's a rhetorical, or an interrogative ("Curious to know" suggests asking something). Strunk & White would give that a close look.
Cream pies are the best thing about the philippines. SNIP Philippines is still (I hope it still is when I get back) the land of cream pies / GFE.Could not agree more. I continue my work here fellas, and will update you from time to time, with documented evidence. Can't wait until you good gents can return and start vaxxing the f*ck out of these gals.
Loso 69 did the same on his first visit to the UAE and PM me a few times, did lots of RTFF, arrived we met and partied, he was helped with pinay contact s and had a great time.A little shout out to WR whom I met on one of my first trips to Cebu in 2012. We didn't party but we did enjoy coffee at Ayala Mall in Cebu.
The next year WR helped me out with two amazing referrals. Fark. Amazing and they left the industry soon after.
A little shout out to WR whom I met on one of my first trips to Cebu in 2012. We didn't party but we did enjoy coffee at Ayala Mall in Cebu.
The next year WR helped me out with two amazing referrals. Fark. Amazing and they left the industry soon after.Roger's friends have incapacitated several members on the board, including myself. Beware what you ask for. 😁.
While I was having fun with PinaLove, I received a PM from Wicked Rodger......
WestCoast1
05-27-21, 00:52
A little shout out to WR whom I met on one of my first trips to Cebu in 2012. We didn't party but we did enjoy coffee at Ayala Mall in Cebu.
Roger's friends have incapacitated several members on the board, including myself. Beware what you ask for. 😁.Nickname for Bo's Coffee, Cebu Ayala, second floor: "Roger's Office".
Member #4794
05-27-21, 17:18
IATF just nerfed all the awesome CEBU goodness that was going on. IATF has nothing to do with science, sanity or public welfare. I expected nothing less, I guess.
"all international flights scheduled to land in MCIA beginning 12:01 am Of May 29 until 11:59 pm Of June 5, 2021 will be redirected to the NAIA".
"Cebu-bound international flights to be diverted to NAIA".
https://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-bound-international-flights-diverted-134500929.html
GoodEnough
05-28-21, 02:57
For those chomping at the bit to get back over here, I've included a link to an "Inquirer" article that I saw yesterday that should give you some reason for optimism:
https://globalnation.inquirer.net/196463/ph-prepares-to-welcome-fully-vaccinated-foreign-travelers
According to the article, the country will begin to open to fully vaccinated passengers as early as sometime in June.
GE.
WestCoast1
05-28-21, 04:02
For those chomping at the bit to get back over here, I've included a link to an "Inquirer" article that I saw yesterday that should give you some reason for optimism:
https://globalnation.inquirer.net/196463/ph-prepares-to-welcome-fully-vaccinated-foreign-travelers
According to the article, the country will begin to open to fully vaccinated passengers as early as sometime in June.Thanks GE. From the article:
Bengzon said 13 hotels in Metro Manila had been allowed to accept leisure travelers and host staycations. But they can only accept guests age 18 to 65 years old, who must present papers showing negative antigen test results, he pointed out. Bengzon also said point-to-point leisure air travel for residents of NCR Plus is now allowed. This means they can fly to hotels or resorts that have been given authority to operate for point-to-point travel, he said. Under DOT Administrative Order No. 2021-003, point-to-point air travel is allowed from NCR Plus to a resort in an area under GCQ or modified general community quarantine. Travelers must take chartered flights
Its a good sign and start.
WestCoast1
05-31-21, 03:21
For anyone who may be interested, a new isolation edict went into effect in Davao today, banning any out of the house / residence activities on Sundays. I presume exceptions are granted for medical emergencies, but no casual travel on Sundays is permitted.Moved to Gen Info: Good information for this board and for all parts of the country. The entire country (and other countries, including my own) is a hodge-podge patchwork quilt of differing rules. From different regions, to different cities, to different Brgy within a city, and possibly other jurisdictions, rules can be different and can change. Covid numbers drive the changes. Each region, city, and Brgy leader (LGU) can issue proclamations (rules) during a calamity (as per the Constitution, I believe).
I would remind us all that there is little in the way of national policy. When Westy says his curfew is 10 pm in this city, it is possible GE's city is 9 pm. In another city there might be no curfew? Worse, it can be different in each Brgy in GE's city (Brgy Captains can make it more strict). Travel restrictions and quarantine requirements can be different by city. Homes, compounds, city blocks, or entire Brgy can be locked quickly by the government (DOH) when cases are discovered. In the same vein that GE and I have mentioned the possibility of flying to Phils in the near future, until the Covid situation stabilizes (probably herd immunity according to the government), you will have situations like this that are non-mongering friendly. "Feel free to come, but stay inside your place". If GE's large city has decided to restrict movement to stay indoors, even if only one day per week, its not a good sign. I've received word in the last week of two other provincial cities having blooms and they have moved back to a stricter CQ system also. More later (yellow tape).
Wicked Roger
05-31-21, 22:26
The entire country (and other countries, including my own) is a hodge-podge patchwork quilt of differing rules. From different regions, to different cities, to different Brgy within a city, and possibly other jurisdictions, rules can be different and can change. Covid numbers drive the changes. Each region, city, and Brgy leader (LGU) can issue proclamations (rules) during a calamity (as per the Constitution, I believe).
I would remind us all that there is little in the way of national policy. When Westy says his curfew is 10 pm in this city, it is possible GE's city is 9 pm.
I've received word in the last week of two other provincial cities having blooms and they have moved back to a stricter CQ system also. More later (yellow tape).Certainly the case in parts of Leyte. Some towns / bgys are super strict and are acting as an ECQ others more relaxed. Infuriating, confusing, maddening etc. Also the need to fiesta is causing some covid spikes (just read the local Manila news to see the idiots doing that. And then mass testing shows lots of Covid cases!
So 'hodge podge' is a nice way to describe it.
WestCoast1
06-01-21, 13:44
Homes, compounds, city blocks, or entire Brgy can be locked quickly by the government (DOH) when cases are discovered.Lockdowns can be announced in advance (ala GE's Davao post: Don't go out on Sundays). Or, much more quickly, without warning. One day I went for a morning walk, including straight down Adriatico, from Faura to Pedro Gil. Stopped into the McDonald's on the corner for coffee. All systems normal. A few hours later I was in Rizal Park and grabbed a taxi to Robinson's. I told the driver to drop me at the Faura entrance. I should have been paying attention to Faura street. When the driver dropped me, I walkeded across Faura and was walking towards the taxi drop-off area in front of the entrance, oblivious. A hand stopped me. "No entry sir". It was a military-uniform police officer. Yellow tape was run along the sidewalk, chest-high, for as far as I could see in the direction of Taft Ave. Looking to my right, towards Roxas, same. It was 11 am.
People were streaming out of the mall from the exit doors. Nobody was attempting to go inside the entry (guard) doors. I walked towards Roxas. Heavily armed police and contagion-garbed DOH personell were there directing pedestrians thru a bullhorn. I continued west along Faura, crossing Adriatico. More yellow tape. Passed the old G-Point. Got to Mabini and stopped to take some pics (below).
Pic #1, corner Faura / Mabini, looking east along Faura. Red arrow is the old G-Point. Notice the yellow tape, nobody on the G-Point side of the tape, others walking on the street side. Pic #2, I turned right 90 degrees, looking south along Mabini. Same, yellow tape, nobody in the business side, pedestrians in the street. Red arrow is City-State Tower hotel. Pic #3, I stepped across Mabini to the City-State side, looking at the Faura / Mabini corner. My residence guard said the next day that it was still locked down. Pic #4 (from Wastebook today), to show the difference in announced lockdown levels in the various cities, as just announced. MECQ = most strict of the three, GCQ is a medium strictness, and I think MGCQ is the least restrictive of them (correct me if I am wrong).
From the time I walked down the street in the morning (8 am-ish), till I got back around 11, they had closed and were clearing the mall, and they'd cordoned off the mall and surrounding block, and had personnel out for enforcement.
When I was in the province, my several regulars would come see me and bring me pics of similar yellow-taped closings. I'd see on the news that this or that Brgy had separate lockdowns s going on. My girl would txt to say her compound and the neighboring compound were yellow-tape locked down, and she might not be able to come the next day unless the lockdown is lifted (often they were 24 or 48 hour locks). "F*ck sake we can't leave our home even". Both the advanced-announced and sudden lockdowns continue to happen. I think westerners don't have these kinds of things. Again, non-mongering friendly. Good news: things have lightened some in Manila.
Sudden local lockdowns, in addition to announced strict city-wide edicts, mean that you must be creative to play the game, and on some days (or weeks) nothing works. Your Brgy block gets locked for 2 days. Then when that's finished you plan to have that new dating site hottie meet for some joy, but then her compound gets locked. After that she has her period. You are only here for 2 weeks, fella. Point-and-shoot barfines are gone: Learn to adapt, and do it in a way that doesn't offend the nice people here who aren't in the Burgos-type business.
You are only here for 2 weeks, fella. Point-and-shoot barfines are gone: Learn to adapt, and do it in a way that doesn't offend the nice people here who aren't in the Burgos-type business.In a way it has added a new dimension to poverty poon.
I guess it might also be possible that the Filipina gets stranded outside her barangay and nice BrizLad is forced to give her accommodations for a few days. Of course that would be another complication.
Now this reminds me of two different AC girls from my history there. At different times they would be on their "off" days from their work and stay over at my place. I guess they told their families they had extended work meanwhile happy to hang out while I worked and be my dinner and bed companion. (of course this is different to having a person stay over that actually would prefer to be back in their barangay.)
For those of you waiting with packed bags to go to the Philippines, it seems that establishing the veracity of the vaccine certificate is the major stumbling block for the Department of Tourism (DOT).
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/31/2102017/dot-looking-ways-verify-vaccine-certificates
DOT is seeking help from the IATA. The so-called Green Lane will still have quarantine, but for 7 days only (instead of the current 14 days).
Has anyone here used the IATA Travel Pass app? It has a Digital Passport module for vaccination certification, but the access is currently by "invitation only".
https://www.iata.org/en/youandiata/travelers/iata-travel-pass-for-travelers/
GoodEnough
06-02-21, 04:22
For those of you waiting with packed bags to go to the Philippines, it seems that establishing the veracity of the vaccine certificate is the major stumbling block for the Department of Tourism (DOT).
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/31/2102017/dot-looking-ways-verify-vaccine-certificates
DOT is seeking help from the IATA. The so-called Green Lane will still have quarantine, but for 7 days only (instead of the current 14 days).
Has anyone here used the IATA Travel Pass app? It has a Digital Passport module for vaccination certification, but the access is currently by "invitation only".
https://www.iata.org/en/youandiata/travelers/iata-travel-pass-for-travelers/The problem here—perhaps unsurprising—is that as soon as the various localities started issuing vaccine certifications, forgeries became available on the gray market. Not only that, but each location appears to have designed and generated its own version of a certification document. Mine, here in Davao, is a simple white card, with no picture, with the logos of various organizations printed, together with my name, birthdate, date of vaccination, vaccine manufacturer and lot number. A friend in CdO has a card that includes his picture and which looks much more "official. " Another friend in Makati also has a non-picture certification card, but one that looks different from mine. So, much like the US, there's virtually no standardization of certification documents which means that the forgery market must be booming. On the plus side of the ledger, it's getting ever easier to get vaccinated here, but on the debit side, a huge percentage of the population is extremely reluctant to get vaccinated due to a lack of information, fear of injections or both.
GE.
Will foreign tourists (and returning Filipinos) with completed vaccination be still subjected to quarantine? There seems to be inconsistent reports, sometimes from the same reporter & newspaper.
On May 22, Elijah Rosales wrote in The Philippine Star:
"the DOT said the creation of a green lane can allow immunized foreigners to travel to the Philippines without the need to undergo the required quarantine ".
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/22/2100001/dot-proposes-green-lane-vaccinated-foreigners
On May 30, Romeo Limpangog wrote in The Freeman:
"With the green lane, DOT said, immunized foreigners need not have to undergo the required quarantine".
https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-news/2021/05/30/2101830/high-time-reassess-entry-foreign-tourists-chan
On May 31, Elijah Rosales wrote in The Philippine Star the following, contradicting her earlier writing:
"Through the green lane, returning overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) and foreign nationals who completed their vaccination will just need to quarantine for seven days, from 14 days at present, to enter the Philippines".
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/31/2102017/dot-looking-ways-verify-vaccine-certificates
Bottom Line: It's not clear if Green Lane will have no quarantine or seven days of quarantine.
GoodEnough
06-02-21, 06:55
Will foreign tourists (and returning Filipinos) with completed vaccination be still subjected to quarantine? There seems to be inconsistent reports, sometimes from the same reporter & newspaper.
On May 22, Elijah Rosales wrote in The Philippine Star:
"the DOT said the creation of a green lane can allow immunized foreigners to travel to the Philippines without the need to undergo the required quarantine ".
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/22/2100001/dot-proposes-green-lane-vaccinated-foreigners
On May 30, Romeo Limpangog wrote in The Freeman:
"With the green lane, DOT said, immunized foreigners need not have to undergo the required quarantine".
https://www.philstar.com/the-freeman/cebu-news/2021/05/30/2101830/high-time-reassess-entry-foreign-tourists-chan
On May 31, Elijah Rosales wrote in The Philippine Star the following, contradicting her earlier writing:
"Through the green lane, returning overseas Filipino workers (OFWs) and foreign nationals who completed their vaccination will just need to quarantine for seven days, from 14 days at present, to enter the Philippines".
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/05/31/2102017/dot-looking-ways-verify-vaccine-certificates
Bottom Line: It's not clear if Green Lane will have no quarantine or seven days of quarantine.It's my understanding that the recently-published news about opening the country sometime this month remains more of an objective than a realized goal. The most thorough article I've read on the subject indicated that rules and procedures are still being formulated, and that might account for the inconsistency in reporting. My best guess is that an expedited process will be established for fully vaccinated travelers from a specific list of countries, though I'm not sure which countries will be on the list.
GE.
It's my understanding that the recently-published news about opening the country sometime this month remains more of an objective than a realized goal. The most thorough article I've read on the subject indicated that rules and procedures are still being formulated, and that might account for the inconsistency in reporting. My best guess is that an expedited process will be established for fully vaccinated travelers from a specific list of countries, though I'm not sure which countries will be on the list.
GE.You are right GE regarding the evolving process. I see several forces pushing the government towards opening up for tourism:
1. The economy is in bad shape. Tourism accounted for 10% of GDP and employed millions. Hotel, restaurants, transportationthe entire tourism infrastructure with high asset burden is difficult to preserve. Instead of tax revenue, government is losing money in handouts.
2. Thailand was planning to open its tourist attraction from July, with no quarantine requirement. European countries are opening for Americans and for each other. It presents a safe model for the Philippines and puts pressure on the government to do something.
3. Du30 needs cash badly for the next year's election handouts.
Of course, there are reasons for caution also:
1. The recent rise of Covid in Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia and Indonesiaall neighboring ASEAN countriesmust be a reason to worry. The images from India don't help either and serve as a warning against rushed opening.
2. Verifying who has been vaccinated, is a mess. It is unlikely that a universal system will emerge. Digital Green Certificate (Europe), Green Pass (Israel), Coronapas (Denmark), Excelsior (New York) there are as many passes as countries. As GE pointed out before, even in the Philippines, different regions have different vaccine certificate. If the fake pass leads to a rise in virus, it will be unfortunate.
3. Philippines is way behind in the vaccination, the only certain way to bring down the disease. Covax, a major supplier of vaccine for Philippines, went dry because Indians were supplying 85% of their vaccine and they can no longer send vaccines to Covax while their own house is on fire. The supply from Thailand also got delayed because the new factory can not get its act together. The current vaccination, roughly 1% of population, is not going to make much difference. Vaccine hesitancy is another major problem, thanks in part to the Sanofi Dengue vaccine fiasco four years ago.
Member #4794
06-02-21, 18:19
...1. The economy is in bad shape. Tourism accounted for 10% of GDP and employed millions...Actually ALOT worst than you think it is. GDP is down 41% $37 b just went poof in 2020 and 2021 is on the way to being worst because of the lack of government funding could see job losses double.
What does this mean for the average monger? We are in for a treat and extremely beautiful women when we return. Lots of covid babies and guys with no jobs to support them so this means these hotties need to find a job. The (old) women who were holding down the fort in AC will be relegated to working elsewhere and for a lesser bar fine. I predict we start to see 8-9-10's again in AC instead of what we were seeing pre covid girls in the 6-7-8 area. I think we see a resurgence of LT GFE as for these bar girls to lock in multi day bar fines. As western tourists likely to be let in first we will have the pick of the litter when they reopen to tourists.
Philippines just doesn't want to be first, If another country opens they will follow suit. So watch the Olympics and watch Thailand reopen hopefully without a kerfuffle, phils should follow suit regardless of the situation due to not wanting to lose another $37 b.
At this point I am ok with a 7 day quarantine if they will let me loose on all the 10's that await. 14 days is way too long but 7 is doable. Anyone know if they allow groceries deliveries in quarantine? I am not very keen on eating the food they prepare for me.
"PH travel, tourism sector lost $37 b, 2 m jobs in 2020".
https://manilastandard.net/business/economy-trade/356121/ph-travel-tourism-sector-lost-37b-2m-jobs-in-2020.html
Member #4794
06-02-21, 18:26
Will foreign tourists (and returning Filipinos) with completed vaccination be still subjected to quarantine? They are just talking about this, They will copy paste whatever country figures it out. So no real reason to follow them too closely they are looking externally for their guidance so should you. Phils is not going to be writing any policy ( & we don't WANT them to either because "face shields") they are waiting for someone else to do it successfully as the catalyst to reopen imo.
What does this mean for the average monger? We are in for a treat and extremely beautiful women when we return. I like your optimism, even under these circumstances. You are right about the desperation setting in. In all my communication with the locals, I sense that.
If the Philippines is going to wait and see how the Japan Olympics and Thai opening up turns out, we are looking in to August and beyond.
I predict we start to see 8-9-10's again in AC instead of what we were seeing pre covid girls in the 6-7-8 area. I think we see a resurgence of LT GFE as for these bar girls to lock in multi day bar fines. As western tourists likely to be let in first we will have the pick of the litter when they reopen to tourists.My prediction is that AC will not be our next mongering destination. Pre-covid it was already a shadow of it's former self. Most people on here think it is a shithole, hate the long drive, have problems getting connections into Clark etc. City is changing as the call center & BPO industries have boomed even in covid and the acceptance of online workers. Hotels and venues will have been un-maintained for years by the time we return.
What do we really want? Hotel choices, supply of babes, cold beer, avoiding Manila traffic. A nicer seaside area like Mactan Island could be an alternative. Or Mandaue area could emerge as viable alternatives.
Member #4794
06-02-21, 23:35
A nicer seaside area like Mactan Island could be an alternative. Or Mandaue area could emerge as viable alternatives.I hate Cebu for some personal reasons. Cebu has a very weird view of the pay to play business, The first time ever went to Cebu's Mango ave was ripe with street walkers and the girly bars were poppin. Cebu kind of went backwards in that regard and kind of ruined mango ave and mongering in general. The last time I went to cebu was horrible, the last bar fine I had there they made you wait outside for the girl and they would usher you into a taxi. The monger scene in general in cebu got to a frustration point with me.
The reason why AC will never die is because its a shithole. The same thing you see as a hassle is the reason why it makes such a great mongering destination. There is ample transportation from the provinces to Dau and clark for easy domestic travel for the girls. The girls are offered a measure of anonymity due to the foreigner focused business. In other destinations like cebu you have to go to restaurants and business that cater to non mongers, in AC you live kind of in a bubble where everyone is either a working girl or monger. Philipino girls are "shy" so this bubble gives them some security or what they perceive as security, no shame in AC towards bar girls and their "customers". The girls in AC often times tell their parents they work in manila since it is close, if you look at bar girls facebook profiles it will say they work in manila most likely. There is are also business (clothes, food, hair, boarding houses, that often "utang" for new girls) that specifically cater to bar girls in AC. Places like Subic could easily overtake but it has a giant problem a highway runs through it (can't get too wasted because you risk death if you wander to far out into the road). Like it or not AC is still the perfect destination for mongering for the foreseeable future imo. Freelancers which I see as a more advanced form of mongering there are better destinations, but for pure bar girl type mongering AC isn't going where any time soon.
Also when AC seems to be going down hill, there is always another sucker who is willing to risk their retirement opening a bar. It happens in waves Westerners, Japanese, Korean, Chinese. AC for whatever reason is very resilient. Endless stream of eager investors.
I hate Cebu for some personal reasons. Cebu has a very weird view of the pay to play business, The first time ever went to Cebu's Mango ave was ripe with street walkers and the girly bars were poppin. Cebu kind of went backwards in that regard and kind of ruined mango ave and mongering in general. The last time I went to cebu was horrible, the last bar fine I had there they made you wait outside for the girl and they would usher you into a taxi. The monger scene in general in cebu got to a frustration point with me.Cebu is in a league by itself with regard to mongering. Generally you meet girls online chatting and there is no shame in asking for sex. Many agree for money. I have met and had lots of fun with many I met online. Some even introduced their friends. These are not bargirls but it is well known in Cebu that there are plenty of foreigners who will take care of girls. So it is easy to find. But like any normal girl you need to play the dating game. Not all girls are willing to jump into the bed with you. They need to like you first. Money alone will not get them. My method is if you chat with many few will like you. Some are real sweethearts who I have taken on beach vacations. Some I continue to see even now although they are older and out of my preferred age group.
I have also had many girls who traveled from the provinces to be with me. There were few scammers as well. It is part of the risk you take. To be honest I have never gone to any go go bars in Cebu. I have met some girls at Ayala mall.
It is true some girls do not want to be seen with a foreigner because sometimes their family will find out which is a shame for them. There some very pretty girls who have Korean sponsors and they did not want to go outside together to risk the pipeline running dry. But in the hotel anything goes.
This is why I like Cebu.
Cebu is in a league by itself with regard to mongering. Generally you meet girls online chatting and there is no shame in asking for sex. Many agree for money. I have met and had lots of fun with many I met online. Some even introduced their friends. These are not bargirls but it is well known in Cebu that there are plenty of foreigners who will take care of girls. So it is easy to find. But like any normal girl you need to play the dating game. Not all girls are willing to jump into the bed with you. They need to like you first. Money alone will not get them. My method is if you chat with many few will like you. Some are real sweethearts who I have taken on beach vacations. Some I continue to see even now although they are older and out of my preferred age group.
I have also had many girls who traveled from the provinces to be with me. There were few scammers as well. It is part of the risk you take. To be honest I have never gone to any go go bars in Cebu. I have met some girls at Ayala mall.
It is true some girls do not want to be seen with a foreigner because sometimes their family will find out which is a shame for them. There some very pretty girls who have Korean sponsors and they did not want to go outside together to risk the pipeline running dry. But in the hotel anything goes.
This is why I like Cebu.I didn't like the mongering scene there. To be honest, I liked Manila the best simply because that's where I found the hottest girls per my tastes. At clubs like Kojax and PlanB. Generally speaking, I'm not attracted to most Asian girls, so it's always a challenge for me to find somebody I like who is Asian. I had the most success in Manila, and the least in Cebu (went with nobody). AC was in the middle.
WestCoast1
06-03-21, 01:41
I hate Cebu for some personal reasons. Cebu has a very weird view of the pay to play business,
Cebu is in a league by itself with regard to mongering. Quite a few of the gals posted in the PG are Cebuanas. Errrr. . . That's the chismosa that I hear.
Cebu is in a league by itself with regard to mongering. Not all girls are willing to jump into the bed with you. They need to like you first. Money alone will not get them.I can vouch for that! Most girls in Cebu jump away from the bed, as soon as they see me. But then, they need fare to go back home. And they like Jollibees. And their Pinoy BFs rarely buys them dresses or chocolates. So they forget that they don't like me. And they jump right back into the bed. Without clothes.
Cebuanas are beautiful. You can also extend your "reach" by inviting girls from Leyte, Samar, Bohol and Negros. Just a few hours of travel by bus / boat. You just needs to invest time and a bit of generosity. The farther they come from, the more devoted and loving thy become. Think of it as Chica's Law of Attraction.
Sitting in Ayala in a coffee shop, you can find more beautiful girls than in Mango Sq. In fact, me and my Cebuana GF used to play this game where we sat alone away from each other in Bo's cafe. To see whether a foreigner hits on her first or a hooker comes to get me. She always won. So if you talk to a beautiful girl in Ayala and she seems uninterested, look for me. And stop hitting on my GF.
Member #4794
06-03-21, 02:16
To be honest I have never gone to any go go bars in Cebu.
You just needs to invest time and a bit of generosity.You guys actually proved my point where Cebu is more of a dating, freelancer and hook up island. In some ways this can be fulfilling but I don't see Cebu turning into the monger hotspot that outshines AC in terms of bar girls.
I mean I know you guys love Cebu but like I said for some personal reasons including death threats, LOL. Cebu can be a particularly heated environment at least in my experience, especially when you start to pull girls that are not explicitly in the sex industry. Their family in the barangays are like old school clans and have ties to the military ect. I have done the mall and normal girl pick up routine in Cebu I had a lot of success, all of the girls I met and called to my room leapt into bed with me almost immediately. This one girl I met on a layover I only had half a day and she met me at the hotel we were bumping uglys within 5 minutes of getting in the door. What came after was months of her stalking me. I have had more than a few run ins with level 5 clingers in Cebu and I have just given up on the place to be honest. After all the threats I received and stalking I'm 100% over Cebu. I monger all over the world and cebu is different in some way. They are all yours guys good luck.
Cebu can be a particularly heated environment at least in my experience, especially when you start to pull girls that are not explicitly in the sex industry. Their family in the barangays are like old school clans and have ties to the military ect. MM, your post made me laugh and it made me jealous at the same time. I wish I was such a desirable "catch" that girl won't let me go and her clan will be out to kill me. In my case, the girl probably will miss only my money and gifts and the old school clan will say, good riddance.
You know that AC is a risky place too. Lewis Yakich, owner of the Lewis Grand Hotel and High Society bar disappeared and was never found. This guy was well connected. Google "Murder in Angeles city" and see how many hits you get.
Don't get me wrong, I liked occasional visit to AC. But over the years, talent kept going downhill. The recent trend in Korean ownership and then destroying all the fun for the rest of us is well documented on AC thread. My last few visits, I brought my own girl because she liked the vibe of High Society. I still bemoan its closure, but it is no competition for Cebu. I love Cebu because of its laid back, clean, small-town feel. And I can get out to so many fun places nearby to explore nature.
Member #4794
06-04-21, 17:21
Looks like they are saying officially down from 10 to 7 days quarantine still no tourists, I'm ok with 7 let me in! Maybe I should look up one of the 100's of bar girls that told me I have a kid to get me in with the balikbayan visa.
"Fully vaccinated travellers will now only need to stay in a quarantine facility for seven days, down from 10 days, presidential spokesman Harry Roque said. ".
"Philippines eases quarantine rules for fully vaccinated travellers".
https://www.thestar.com.my/aseanplus/aseanplus-news/2021/06/04/philippines-eases-quarantine-rules-for-fully-vaccinated-travellers
Wicked Roger
06-04-21, 19:04
Cebu is in a league by itself with regard to mongering.
This is why I like Cebu.I agree Sammon, and can't see why some of the posters hate it or scared of it. Must have had such a bad experience.
Manila and AC are my least favourite main cities so we all have different flavours.
As Westie said 'some' of the girls in the PG are Cebuana LOL And if you don't like Asian girls go elsewhere and leave them for people who appreciate them.
As for bars. I never go unless am with a friend who wants to see what it is all about (which IMHO is nothing much as all LOL). Friend of the Cebuanos, their cousins and sisters all work for me (and Sammon I assume) and why Cebu is a great place for WR.
WestCoast1
06-05-21, 04:28
Guys. Would you be able to move these discussions to the general information forum. Peace out. G.Good call, G. Done.
That is more if an indicator of where their health systems fail, testing backlogs or lack of testing rather than a measure of covid.
My apology. Let's start with source data. SNIP It is at this point I wish I had some decent pics to post of my filipina morsels. BL.Got you covered there with the pic big fella.
Damn I miss Filipina vag.
PedroMorales
06-05-21, 07:59
Here are the contact details for Dalia Dippolito, prisoner no W42222, Lowell Annex, Florida http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSearch/detail.aspx?Page=Detail&DCNumber=W42222&TypeSearch=AI.
She is due for release in 2032 when she will be 50.
Dalia is a former hooker who is doing time for hiring a hitman to off her husband, who she was shaking down big time. Dalia used men like men use throw away toilet paper. Hookers like Dalia are the reason many men become serial killers. When you are with a hooker, you are with a Dalia. No matter how loving they may be to their families, and no matter how good they may be in the sack, they are Dalias.
By all means, bugger them and cum in their asses. Be polite to them. But let them return to their trike drivers and cuckolded husbands to get on with their lives and you get on with yours.
One of my own fears is I might hook up with a hooker who then becomes a victim of a serial killer or one of the other killers that chill out with such women, that the cops will find my number asking for her services when they check her phone and I will be pulled in.
Sure, swimming in shitt might be nice. But you have to shower and be hosed down. And don't bring filth home with you. This is so even if all they do all they long is cook chicken adobo and watch cartoons as they jerk you off.
I agree Sammon, and can't see why some of the posters hate it or scared of it. Must have had such a bad experience.
Manila and AC are my least favourite main cities so we all have different flavours.
As Westie said 'some' of the girls in the PG are Cebuana LOL And if you don't like Asian girls go elsewhere and leave them for people who appreciate them.
As for bars. I never go unless am with a friend who wants to see what it is all about (which IMHO is nothing much as all LOL). Friend of the Cebuanos, their cousins and sisters all work for me (and Sammon I assume) and why Cebu is a great place for WR.For those so inclined, Cebu is hands down the online mongering capital of the Philippines. Everything from curious college girls to filthy hoes is available.
Not all girls in Cebu are cebuana or even bisaya. Many have gone for work or school from all over the archipelago, often with the advantage of no nosey parents or family watching their every move.
I'd agree that the one downside is that Cebu bars truely suck.
Don't forget that 'cebu' refers to both the city and the, very large, province. A trap for beginners is to be chatting to someone from 'cebu' to find she is a nine hour drive away.
Enjoy. G.
Here are the contact details for Dalia Dippolito, prisoner no W42222, Lowell Annex, Florida http://www.dc.state.fl.us/offenderSearch/detail.aspx?Page=Detail&DCNumber=W42222&TypeSearch=AI.
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One of my own fears is I might hook up with a hooker who then becomes a victim of a serial killer or one of the other killers that chill out with such women, that the cops will find my number asking for her services when they check her phone and I will be pulled in.
Sure, swimming in shitt might be nice. But you have to shower and be hosed down. And don't bring filth home with you. This is so even if all they do all they long is cook chicken adobo and watch cartoons as they jerk you off.What a lot of bullshit. If that is what you believe, then stay away from hookers. More safe at home.
PedroMorales
06-06-21, 18:32
What a lot of bullshit. If that is what you believe, then stay away from hookers. More safe at home.https://scholar.uwindsor.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5266&context=etd
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1536504218776961
Links above to a PhD and an academic paper on serial killers offing hookers, plus explanations on why hookers are often targeted. Pattaya is full of ex pat crims. Dalia Dippolito needs you. Prisons are full of tarts with hearts. Dalia is an important lesson for those with positive IQs. But hey folk like you like Las Vegas sex, where the bank always wins.
With Ph off the travel options I have been spending my money on the local scene here in Au.
The missing parts that I cannot replace:
On call pussy waiting in my room when I get home.
On call pussy when I wake up.
Pussy to chase when it suits me, after work or weekends.
Out local asian massage places are nice for on call pussy but they do see so many cocks it plays on my mind.
The part of my Ph adventures is the availability of pussy at any time. The 7-11 pickup, the shopping mall wink, all things that a 55+ doesn't get in Australia.
WestCoast1
06-07-21, 00:30
The missing parts that I cannot replace:
On call pussy waiting in my room when I get home. On call pussy when I wake up. Like in the pic. Some warm, brown mocha to wake up to in the morning. Someone to suck your eggs, then fry you some. Gotcha.
the shopping mall wink, And they are back. For about 3 weeks, Robinson's Place Malate. Several on the steps outside Arya resto on Pedro Gil in the evenings. 2-4 or so inside, near the Starbucks (better looking than pre-covid). Not a lot of foreigners to take them.
Member #4794
06-07-21, 00:38
The part of my Ph adventures is the availability of pussy at any time. The 7-11 pickup, the shopping mall wink, all things that a 55+ doesn't get in Australia.You couldn't pay me enough to fuck an American woman now days, when I was younger I was ok with over the hill hookers in MPs but I can't do it any more. Local hookers here want a deposit upfront and a background check so that is not happening. I get hit on 0 times in America in phils I think I get hit on in literally hours of arriving. Here I don't get called handsome and my penis is normal size. When I arrive in Phils my cock grows 6 inches and miraculously become a sex god (I have no need for Cialis in America but I eat them like tic tacs in phils because I use my penis as a divining rod.), I also become 10 years younger when people ask me and on arrival become a billionaire. I gain pick up artist skills I never knew I had and have to sadly turn down pussy because there is only so much time in the day. Saying that I miss the Philippines is a giant understatement. It really is "More Fun in the Philippiness".
WestCoast1
06-08-21, 13:34
SNIP I have no need for Cialis in America but I eat them like tic tacs in phils because I use my penis as a divining rodFunniest line of the year. Some guys can find moisture below the ground with it. MM uses his to draw out the moisture from below her belt.
SNIP and have to sadly turn down pussy because there is only so much time in the day. Its my biggest problem. "Damn that Karen. She's always calling and wanting to come over and bang my brains out. Be**tch!" <- Said no one ever in the US. OTOH, in Phils, you might find yourself needing several rest days each week.
Saying that I miss the Philippines is a giant understatement. Attached pic, chocolate taco from a 22 yo, to warm your cockels of your. . . Heart. She's waiting for you MM.
Member #4794
06-09-21, 04:08
Heart. She's waiting for you MM.Thanks, I hope these girls are ready for me.
On more positive news it looks like the US is preparing to reopen international travel or at least allow it and this looks like a precursor to other countries allowing tourists. This might have been what most countries were waiting for.
I am debating buying a ticket as tickets may skyrocket on news of phils reopening. At this point its a pure gamble in terms of what month to shoot for.
"US lowers travel warning to PH, urges full vaccination before trip".
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2021/6/9/United-States-travel-Philippines-COVID.html
Soapy Smith
06-09-21, 06:53
https://scholar.uwindsor.ca/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=5266&context=etd
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/pdf/10.1177/1536504218776961
Links above to a PhD and an academic paper on serial killers offing hookers, plus explanations on why hookers are often targeted. Pattaya is full of ex pat crims. Dalia Dippolito needs you. Prisons are full of tarts with hearts. Dalia is an important lesson for those with positive IQs. But hey folk like you like Las Vegas sex, where the bank always wins.It's not quite clear what your argument is in this and your previous post. If you intention was to counter AA's reply to you, these two papers in this post don't do it. In your previous post you seem to focus on this woman, Dalia Dippolito, a seemingly deranged Florida hooker who wanted her husband killed for his money. These two academic papers are about the dangers faced by sex workers. The masters thesis is not very coherent; it focuses on how sex worker advocacy groups "socially construct" understanding about sex workers. The published article argues that sex workers are in greater danger than other women because the police and others don't invest resources in protecting them or pursuing the serial killers that sometimes target them.
In other words, these two papers do not reinforce each other, and neither seems to relate to your message in the Dippolito post. I'm not sure that a reply to AA is going to work out very well.
Soapy Smith
06-09-21, 07:03
Out local asian massage places are nice for on call pussy but they do see so many cocks it plays on my mind.If Oz is like the states, they're also very clock conscious. (Near slip of the typing fingers there.) We often complain about Pinays showing up late because they're on Filipino time. But Filipino time has its benefits, especially when you get a Pinay into your hotel room or condo. It strikes me that one of the dimensions of GFE in the Phils is the near absence of clock-watching. I have found that Filipino time has other soft linings.
Soapy Smith
06-09-21, 07:14
On more positive news it looks like the US is preparing to reopen international travel or at least allow it and this looks like a precursor to other countries allowing tourists. This might have been what most countries were waiting for.
I am debating buying a ticket as tickets may skyrocket on news of phils reopening. At this point its a pure gamble in terms of what month to shoot for. There are reports of elevated numbers of unruly passenger incidents and fights--including hitting cabin attendants--on several US carriers' flights.
https://www.traveldailymedia.com/unruly-passengers-on-planes/
In addition to initial surge in prices, you might want to wait until our countrymen (and women) get this stuff worked out of their systems.
PedroMorales
06-09-21, 07:36
It's not quite clear what your argument is in this and your previous post. If you intention was to counter AA's reply to you, these two papers in this post don't do it. In your previous post you seem to focus on this woman, Dalia Dippolito, a seemingly deranged Florida hooker who wanted her husband killed for his money. These two academic papers are about the dangers faced by sex workers. The masters thesis is not very coherent; it focuses on how sex worker advocacy groups "socially construct" understanding about sex workers. The published article argues that sex workers are in greater danger than other women because the police and others don't invest resources in protecting them or pursuing the serial killers that sometimes target them.
In other words, these two papers do not reinforce each other, and neither seems to relate to your message in the Dippolito post. I'm not sure that a reply to AA is going to work out very well.The common thread is it is a human swamp around hookers. When you marry a hooker, you marry Dalia. We all know of lots of little Dalias in SE Asia and most of us have seen guys losing their brains and more over a hooker. There is a good post below on the benefits of on call pussy in SE Asia but the poster makes the mistake that SE Asian hookers are somehow purer than hookers in Ossie land which is pure nonsense.
The advantage of SE Asia is a cheap holiday with cheap attractions. Anyone who thinks Disneyland / Pussyland is real is a loser. It is a Casino of working girls, complete with addicted and fkked up punters. Best just to dip the wick, pay to have the STIs cured and return home.
I was going to post this in the Thai section https://www.bbc.com/news/av/business-57404078 a BBC puff piece on Thailand polishing up to get punters back. Heaven help them when the first wave of drunks arrive. Here in Europe, the young are out of control, with drinking, drugs and rave parties. I'll let the Sex Everglades pass for now and ration my visit to diseased local wells in the mean time.
The lockdowns have divided the wise virgins, the folk with money, from the pack. The wise virgins have done up their houses and so on with the money they didn't blow on holidays. The others are into soup kitchens. Hopefully, this might lead to a better class of traveller. We just have to wait and see what kind of tourist folk are prioritised: losers who spend $$ on flat screen TVs, booze and LB FMs, back packers or married women who spend big.
GoodEnough
06-09-21, 09:32
Thanks, I hope these girls are ready for me.
On more positive news it looks like the US is preparing to reopen international travel or at least allow it and this looks like a precursor to other countries allowing tourists. This might have been what most countries were waiting for.
I am debating buying a ticket as tickets may skyrocket on news of phils reopening. At this point its a pure gamble in terms of what month to shoot for.
"US lowers travel warning to PH, urges full vaccination before trip".
https://cnnphilippines.com/news/2021/6/9/United-States-travel-Philippines-COVID.htmlYou might want to wait a while prior to booking, unless you're positive you can get a refund or change ticketing dates at no charge. New COVID cases are soaring in some areas, and, much like in the US, local governments are finding some resistance among the population to getting vaccinated. In addition to some surges, the ensuing government responses are often confusing and are resulting in the closure (again) of multiple genres of establishments, including restaurants, bars and other gathering places. In addition, local restrictions on the movement of people from barangay to barangay are often confusing, differ from location to location and change frequently. Thus, it may sometimes be difficult for your latest love interest to visit you easily.
About 2 or 3 weeks ago the national Department of Health and the Department of Tourism did publish a paper indicating that they wanted to start opening the country to fully vaccinated citizens from selected countries, and two do so by the end of this month. However, no implementing rules and regulations have been published to my knowledge, and there's been no further public announcement other than a decision to allow SRRV visa holders back into the country. I live in Davao, have been fully vaccinated here in the Philippines, and am making plans to meet friends who live in various places around to country in Angeles in late August. We're all holding off on booking flights because the rules are so unclear and also because the schedules for internal flights change so frequently, as do rules pertaining to whether negative COVID tests are required and whether any quarantining will prove necessary.
Succinctly, there's simply no clear picture yet emerging that could provide guidance for tourists.
GE.
WestCoast1
06-09-21, 10:45
You might want to wait a while prior to booking, unless you're positive you can get a refund or change ticketing dates at no charge. Succinctly, there's simply no clear picture yet emerging that could provide guidance for tourists..
In addition to initial surge in prices, you might want to wait until our countrymen (and women) get this stuff worked out of their systems.
I am debating buying a ticket as tickets may skyrocket on news of phils reopening. At this point its a pure gamble in terms of what month to shoot for.Agree with the other fellas. Wait till the flood subsides. Even when they talk of opening up, they often limit the number of Int'l passengers on a daily basis for a while. Don't buy a ticket in advance. GE is right, things change rapidly here. Also you wait until you are here to buy any domestic airline tickets. Travel rules change constantly from one city to another, with every bloom. A couple I know in Malate (no kids) wants to move back to his province an hour south of Manila. The wife had Covid and got over it months ago. She has a document that says she got over the Covid. Yet she can not travel without another special document. More than a month has passed waiting for it. She and the hubby have enlisted the help of their Brgy captain, he was able to speed up the process to get the document. You buy an airline ticket in advance, and then you can't travel from this place to that place due to a recent travel restriction, you just lose money. Wait till the foreigners come here for a while, see what happens to them first (don't be the tip of the spear, so to speak). Not trying to stop anyone from coming (Lord knows there is a glut of beauty here, and I could use some help), but the beauty will still be here anytime you come (an unlimited, naturally recurring supply). Its just that later (not sooner) you will have more access to it with fewer restrictions.
I'll keep the lights on for 'ya.
In addition, local restrictions on the movement of people from barangay to barangay are often confusing, differ from location to location and change frequently. Spot on, got more on this coming later.
WestCoast1
06-10-21, 03:54
Article regarding airline travel involving a husband / wife / child (wife is Filipina) with all the correct travel documents, denied boarding by Qatar Airways, and then later refused a refund.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2021/jun/09/qatar-airways-refused-us-a-refund-after-visa-mix-up-to-botswana
A gentle reminder that even when you do everything right, things can go bad. And a gentle reminder that even when you do everything right (vaxed, vax passport), the rest of Philippines still operates under pandemic rules for public places, hotels / apartments / condos / restaurants, barangay, public (PUV, taxi, bus) and private transportation (you still have to wear your mask in a car) -- and these rules change from small to large geographic locations and they change quickly, sometimes announced and sometimes not announced. Even if the Phils government lightened up on some of the rules, there is still public fear of disease which borders on (or crosses into) superstition.
More coming later on how Brgy edicts can change, be more strict than federal or city proclamations, can change quickly, and can be largely unknown to the residents.
From the article:
"Given that your sister-in-law was travelling on a Filipino passport, its possible to excuse the airline for insisting on extra checks; whats unacceptable is its refusal to refund either the original fare or the substitute tickets once it was found they did have the correct paperwork."
Soapy Smith
06-10-21, 18:11
The common thread is it is a human swamp around hookers. I think most of us know there are risks in our involvement with sex workers. In late March a 21-year old kid killed eight people in three different AMPs in and near Atlanta, Georgia. Most were Korean women, but one male and one female patron were killed, and another man was wounded. The kid was apparently fighting some guilty demons about his "addiction" to prostitutes.
But how do these few incidents stack up against the number of deaths in traffic accidents? Following the same logic you should avoid vehicular travel or going outside during thunder storms. I will try to be more tactful than AA: if you think the risks are too great, maybe you should stop mongering.
PedroMorales
06-10-21, 18:32
Your example is an interesting one and one, alas, we quickly forget. A 21 year old kid has issues, so he blasts a gang of Asian hookers / massage therapists. Like wtf.
The flaw in your argument is classic whataboutery. Americans are afraid of terrorism, even though more of them get killed by forked lightning etc every year. The difference is Americans feel their name and nationality are on bullets when stuff starts happening. You cannot compare traffic accidents and serial killers. Your passing mention of thunder storms is not a good one as one must respect the elements which take no prisoners. Indeed, al lof the world's great hikes have examples of people dying for not respecting the elements and climbers on Everest now use cadavars as sign posts. The best sherpa get the best punters and the newbies get the OAPs who should be nowhere near Nepal, never mind Everest.
Dalia Dippolito is a warning to us all. But there are many Dalias in SE Asia, who never got a green card. As with Dalia, the sex can be great but it can also be deadly. This message cannot be said too often.
Here in the civilised world, ie Western Europe, there are small signs common sense, spear headed by Sweden, is winning. Denmark is cropping the face diapers and there is some push back against the vaccines (sic). I miss my LBFMs and regret not banging them longer, harder and deeper.
I think 2021 is a write off. There wil be some let up over the Northern summer and then back in to flu season with more draconian measures. At this rate, LBFM is permanently off the menu, which is a shame as a bad hour here buys a good week there.
I think most of us know there are risks in our involvement with sex workers. In late March a 21-year old kid killed eight people in three different AMPs in and near Atlanta, Georgia. Most were Korean women, but one male and one female patron were killed, and another man was wounded. The kid was apparently fighting some guilty demons about his "addiction" to prostitutes.
But how do these few incidents stack up against the number of deaths in traffic accidents? Following the same logic you should avoid vehicular travel or going outside during thunder storms. I will try to be more tactful than AA: if you think the risks are too great, maybe you should stop mongering.
Member #4794
06-11-21, 00:19
Dalia Dippolito is a warning to us all. But there are many Dalias in SE Asia, who never got a green card. This really has nothing to do with the Philippines can we move this tread to somewhere this belongs? Maybe the General Mongering Q&A section?
GoodEnough
06-11-21, 01:53
I think 2021 is a write off. There wil be some let up over the Northern summer and then back in to flu season with more draconian measures. At this rate, LBFM is permanently off the menu, which is a shame as a bad hour here buys a good week there.I am not (quite) ready to write off the remainder of the year as I have some faint optimism that the country will begin to open in early fall, at least to visitors who can prove they've been vaccinated fully. That appears to be the intention of the Department of Tourism and, while I'm not sure that the objective will be achieved, I do think there will be a sustained attempt on the part of the government to reach it. The vaccination program, at least in Davao where I live, is aggressive and reasonably efficient. Millions of doses of vaccines—largely AstraZeneca-Oxford and Sinovac—seem to be arriving every week and the government keeps opening additional vaccination sites. WC is correct in stating that the regulations and quarantine status of various locales change frequently and often abruptly, but this has to do with spikes in infections as far as I can determine.
As is the case with multiple other countries throughout the world, the government here must balance concern for public health against the pressing economic needs of families. Anyone who lives here can witness first hand the visible economic destruction induced by the pandemic: small businesses have closed by the thousands pushing more people out of work; schools remain shuttered exacerbating an already huge education deficit for young people without computer access; many government offices are operating at half-speed, and the list goes on and on. My guess is that, as vaccination efforts gain more momentum, and "essential" workers get vaccinated, the likelihood of a soft re-opening for foreigners from lower-risk countries and for those vaccinated fully, increases. I should add that I have no inside information, but I do read the local papers and I do observe the vaccination efforts first hand.
GE.
WestCoast1
06-11-21, 02:43
WC is correct in stating that the regulations and quarantine status of various locales change frequently and often abruptly, but this has to do with spikes in infections as far as I can determine.My info is the same. When someone tests positive in the brgy (often foretold with symptoms), the DOH isolates those persons, then often times locks down his home, or larger compound's group of homes, or part or all of the larger Brgy, often for just 1-2 days. They literally cordon off the area, nobody in / out. If you were outside at the time of the lockdown, you can go live somewhere else for a few days. If you were inside, you are not leaving unless its an essential departure (ie, medical).
My guess is that, as vaccination efforts gain more momentum, and "essential" workers get vaccinated, Good news. I contacted my Brgy recently to ask the procedure to get vaxxed. I was told to come back when the nurse came back from lunch. She would have me fill out a health form, then she would make an appointment at a local hospital, and it would be free of charge. I asked how long it takes to get an appointment. "Today sir, this afternoon you can get a vaccine". Sweet.
Online recently I saw an ad that read as such: "If you live in Brgy 520-531-602-603-619-705-706, you can get a free vaccine. You can contact your Brgy office for an appointment. You can get your appointment same day or next day. Before we are vaccinating front liner and seniors. Now everyone. For the community get vaccinated!" Sweet again, and easy. I don't know why other Brgy are not included (guessing, shortage of jabs currently). The slightly scary part is that these admissions that you can get vaxxed today (or tomorrow, which is relatively fast) leads to the impression that people are having misgivings about getting vaxxed. A shortage of jab supply (which exists here) should indicate long lines. By extrapolation, when there is a later surge of jabs available, few people will take advantage of it. Sad face. The more jabs that occur to persons here, the faster the easing of CQ restrictions.
GoodEnough
06-11-21, 06:39
Good news. I contacted my Brgy recently to ask the procedure to get vaxxed. I was told to come back when the nurse came back from lunch. She would have me fill out a health form, then she would make an appointment at a local hospital, and it would be free of charge. I asked how long it takes to get an appointment. "Today sir, this afternoon you can get a vaccine". Sweet.
Evidently here in Davao, a number of senior citizens who had received their first shots failed to return for the second doses, so that might account in part for what appears to be somewhat of a surge in supply here. I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't yet received your vaccines given that my two friends on live in Makati got jabbed weeks ago, one with Sinovac and the other with AstraZeneca—Oxford. I thought that supplies in MetroManila were plentiful.
GE.
I am not (quite) ready to write off the remainder of the year as I have some faint optimism that the country will begin to open in early fall, at least to visitors who can prove they've been vaccinated fully.
GE.Problem is that these same visitors have to turn around and go back home. What do their home countries think of a vaccinated person immersing themselves in the Ph environment? Will western countries have the evidence, confidence or political power to allow a vaccinated citizen back into their pristine, crisp, first world air without a lengthy quarantine? It seems emergence from this pandemic is relying on all countries to pull together.
On Thursday I had one of my Ph front line worker twiglets telling me on whatsapp that her provincial mum will not get vaccinated as the mum doesn't like the side effects of the vaccine. If this attitude is permeating through provincial Ph then they will never get the virus under control. Hopefully the unvaccinated mum doesn't get the covid side effect of dying.
Like GE, I also remain optimistic that by the end of the year things will have evolved dramatically in countries with high vaccination rates. The travel opportunities will get promoted between these countries making it easier to travel between US-UK-AU-EU-CH (maybe). Governments will not see that same motivation to give mongers a free pass to Ph. Ph will be available provided you have the time and money to do a 14 day quarantine upon return.
Covid airfares certainly make a negative impact on our south-east asian pleasures. An airfare from her in Au to Mnl is $1 k more than pre-covid. Add the cost of quarantine $3 k. That makes a three week Ph visit airfares increase from $600 to $4,600. Factor in additional Ph 'covid' costs. I can stay here and have a lot of fun with the extra $6 k.
BL.
Within next three months it may or may not be clear if the vaccine protects 100 percent against covid for the purposes of our hobby who like to travel all over the globe and suck, dip, galavant with known or unknown girls who maybe carrying covid and other germs. Once limited travel is proven to be safe all countries will have to open their borders to vaccinated people. Quarantine will rob minimum 2 weeks from travel plans and nobody in their right mind will travel and quarantine unless they plan to stay in that country long time.
Not a lot of countries including here in USA can afford not to have tourism take a big hit let alone Philippines, Thailand, Dominican Republic, Brazil, Panama, Colombia etc.
I believe CDC is taking a close look about travelers bring back covid or covid variants into the country. Only time will tell which should be max 3 months or less. If everything is good all countries will open up. There maybe forms to fill up, temperature check which already exists and other testing requirements. As long as there are no quarantine vaccinated people can travel freely. At the moment people are traveling with this requirement. Only issue is before CDC eliminates testing requirements to come back people are scared to go and get stuck in other countries which has happened.
Hopefully things will get back to reasonably normal by September if there are no major outbreaks. If there are another year of blue balls.
WestCoast1
06-12-21, 04:01
Problem is that these same visitors have to turn around and go back home. What do their home countries think of a vaccinated person immersing themselves in the Ph environment? The lockdowns hit here early last year somewhat suddenly. A lot of weekend warriors got out quickly. After lockdown, there were still quite a few here who had some difficulty getting out (sweeper flights; their 3 week trip turned into 6 or 8 weeks; a sweeper became available in your city only each few weeks, and if it filled up you waited for the next one). In addition, I saw some long-time residents here (multiple nationalities) head home. Most of those got home by June / July 2020. I stayed in contact with a number of them, and at no time was there a required quarantine for my returning country-men. They stepped off the airplane at LAX, went thru Immigration the normal way, picked up their luggage, and headed off to another terminal for their domestic flight to their home city; to be picked up by family or Uber home. To this day I believe there is no quarantine required for returning citizens. The only difference now is the required swab and temp checks for your outbound flight. One day when I fly home, I doubt there will be any quarantine just because I was overseas in Phils. The US recommends "self isolation":
https://www.afar.com/magazine/is-quarantine-required-for-entry-into-the-u-dot-s
From the article:
Well, an Executive Order on Promoting COVID-19 Safety in Domestic and International Travel signed by President Joe Biden on January 21 stated that all travelers entering the U.S. from a foreign country will now be required to comply with other applicable CDC guidelines concerning international travel, including recommended periods of self-quarantine or self-isolation after entry into the United States.
But during a January 26 media call, when asked about enforcement of the quarantine, Dr. Marty Cetron, director for the CDCs Division of Global Migration and Quarantine, said, Were not at this time issuing federal quarantine orders.
Within next three months it may or may not be clear if the vaccine protects 100 percent against covid for the purposes of our hobby who like to travel all over the globe and suck, dip, galavant with known or unknown girls who maybe carrying covid and other germs. Once limited travel is proven to be safe all countries will have to open their borders to vaccinated people. Quarantine will rob minimum 2 weeks from travel plans and nobody in their right mind will travel and quarantine unless they plan to stay in that country long time.Regarding quarantine and vaxxes. Regardless the vaccine you receive, a percent of those vaccinated are not protected; they end up contracting covid and getting sick (or die) from it, and they are for a period of time infectious. In addition, while vaxxed persons are usually immune from Covid's ravaging symptoms, those persons can contract it a-symptomatically and be infectious for a period of time. We all become possible walking incubators. For those reasons, I am guessing that the swab + short quarantine might become the conservative measures taken for some time to come (guessing: years).
On Thursday I had one of my Ph front line worker twiglets telling me on whatsapp that her provincial mum will not get vaccinated as the mum doesn't like the side effects of the vaccine. If this attitude is permeating through provincial Ph then they will never get the virus under control. Hopefully the unvaccinated mum doesn't get the covid side effect of dyingOne of the Board members (MM possibly) mentioned a few weeks ago a survey, showing that only about half the adult population in Phils intended to get vaxxed. That percent rises only to about 65-70% in the States. Sadly, there will be no herd immunity, and until there is one, you have indefinite wildly cyclical CQ situations.
I continue to be amazed at the superstitions and fake-news items (usually from FB) that I've heard from locals here regarding the negatives of vaccines. Many purveyors of such bola offer up googled proof. Or, they simply rely on their own opinion of vaccines in general. Here are a few gems:
* The Covid vaccine magnetizes your blood, allowing the government to track and ego-locate you. No kidding a lady showed me that in FB. A lady told me that the Covid vaccines work in conjunction with 5 G cell towers; she read it on the internet. However we couldn't find that when we googled.
* The vax makes you more sick than Covid (opinion, can't argue with that). "That's what I hear".
* Its not for me. My mama don't want so I don't want (opinion, can't argue with that).
* Bill Gate's company made the virus and the vaccine long ago, sprung it on the world last year, and is making huge profit. Googled article shown to me. The article did not name a company that Bill Gates is involved with, so I asked the guy who showed me that article to tell me who Bill Gate is. "Rich guy". I see, does he have a big company? "Yes". What kind of company? "I don't know". A tech company? "I don't know". A pharmaceutical company? "I don't know". A dildo factory? "What?" Check. Kidding about that last question.
* I makes you sterile. The lady told me: "You can't have babies after the vaccine". I see, ma'am. "I won't get it I don't want sterile". Ma'am, you said that you are 72 years old! A week later one of my regulars asked if I was planning to get vaxxed. "Don't do it Westy you can't have more children". Interestingly, she was aware that I can't have children anyway. A month after that another one of my provincial regulars told me the same thing. When she walked thru my door she was brimming with energy and wanted to talk about the vaccine and becoming sterile. "I'm not do it. Don't do it Westy you will sorry after you don't have a kids". I dragged her to the bedroom and put her energy to better use.
* Covid isn't real. A lady said she'd read it in FB. Covid isn't real and if vaccines come later they are fake also. This was around June 2020, I haven't heard it since then from any pinoy. OTOH, I have heard it (and continue to hear it) from certain foreigners.
Regarding quarantine and vaxxes. Regardless the vaccine you receive, a percent of those vaccinated are not protected; they end up contracting covid and getting sick (or die) from it, and they are for a period of time infectious. In addition, while vaxxed persons are usually immune from Covid's ravaging symptoms, those persons can contract it a-symptomatically and be infectious for a period of time. We all become possible walking incubators. For those reasons, I am guessing that the swab + short quarantine might become the conservative measures taken for some time to come (guessing: years).
* Covid isn't real. A lady said she'd read it in FB. Covid isn't real and if vaccines come later they are fake also. This was around June 2020, I haven't heard it since then from any pinoy. OTOH, I have heard it (and continue to hear it) from certain foreigners.Yes you can still catch it after being vaccinated after all the vaccine stimulates an immune response so there is always a possibility that the virus can linger while the body is trying to expell it. I have not seen any data on deaths after being vaccinated but the general feedback is that with the body's immune system prepared the symptoms are usually mild to nil.
I have had both doses and had mild to no reaction.
I had one girl writing to me telling me it was fake even though her sister had it. I guess because the sister did not get very sick she didn't see the problem. Another said she spent 2 weeks in hospital (22 yo) She complained no one was allowed to visit!
PedroMorales
06-12-21, 11:02
Covid rules for flying into the USA for both US and non US citizens.
Requirement for Proof of Negative COVID-19 Test or Recovery from COVID-19 for All Air Passengers Arriving in the United States:
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/from-other-countries.html
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/testing-international-air-travelers.html
I have no intention of flying to the USA. However, if I had, I would take notes from such official sites. I have non US citizen friends who neither have nor want a Green Card who have flown to the uSA in recent weeks and are there now on their own business. I presume they did due diligence before flying.
Vaccinated Cattle: I know plenty of qualified people warning against these shots, which are now being dispensed to children with God knows what long term results. I don't rely on sex sites like this or google for such information and you should not insinuate otherwise.
6079 Smith W.
The lockdowns hit here early last year somewhat suddenly. A lot of weekend warriors got out quickly. After lockdown, there were still quite a few here who had some difficulty getting out (sweeper flights; their 3 week trip turned into 6 or 8 weeks; a sweeper became available in your city * Covid isn't real. A lady said she'd read it in FB. Covid isn't real and if vaccines come later they are fake also. This was around June 2020, I haven't heard it since then from any pinoy. OTOH, I have heard it (and continue to hear it) from certain foreigners.
AgentOrange
06-12-21, 11:46
As most hunting grounds are closed due to the pandemic.
The girls have moved advertising their services online mostly on facebook as "walk" groups.
Some as low as 1 k for full service ($20 usd).
The higher end ones offer doing the deed in their own condo units.
Soapy Smith
06-12-21, 22:16
You cannot compare traffic accidents and serial killers. Actually, you can. You have offered a series of posts about the risks that those who partake in prostitutes might die from serial killers; the serial killers could be either hookers or those who target hookers and their customers.
Here are some comparisons from 2019. There were 36,096 traffic fatalities in 2019 in the United States. I chose 2019 because traffic and, thankfully, air pollution, were greatly decreased in 2020 due to covid.
https://www.nhtsa.gov/press-releases/nhtsa-releases-2019-crash-fatality-data
By comparison, CNN reported that, according to the FBI, "fewer than one percent of homicides during a given year are committed by serial killers. " There were 16,425 murders in the states in 2019. Even if a full one percent of these were from serial killers, no more than 164.25 of murders were committed by serial killers. (Too bad for the person left with 3/4 of a body.) It's impossible to know how many of these involved hookers or those who targeted them and their customers.
https://www.cnn.com/2013/07/09/us/serial-killers-fast-facts/index.html
https://www.statista.com/statistics/191134/reported-murder-and-nonnegligent-manslaughter-cases-in-the-us-since-1990/
This has nothing to do with "whataboutism. " You are making claims about risks of serial killings in the proximity of prostitutes, and I am saying the risk is infinitesimal by comparison to the risks for motorists, bicyclists, and pedestrians. Seriously, just stay home, and by no means travel to Southeast Asia, Florida, or Georgia. Admittedly, the numbers of comparative fatalities in Western Europe, where you are, may be substantially different. Feel free to share the data.
I promise not to bother you about this again.
PedroMorales
06-12-21, 22:59
I promise not to bother you about this again.Good. You trot out figures from the USA, a place I never wish to see again. Any cop will tell you most murders are done by people who know the victim. Drive by shootings, school shoot ups and the other Apple Pies are a small proportion but they get the headlines. Serial killers are attracted to prostitutes because they are relatively easier to bump off. The human cess pool around prostitutes is murkier and there are higher and qualitatively different risks associated with hanging out with prostitutes than church going grand mothers, who tend not to have pimps as boy friends and are often without yabba / drug dependency issues.
A big story in England now is of a British twin saving her sister from the jaws of a crocodile in Mexico. They went into croc infested waters with a German back packer, who didn't know what he was doing. Me? I would not go into croc infested waters. I've also watched some Louisiana babes hunt gators on youtube. Not for me. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9679279/British-woman-28-rescued-jaws-crocodile-speaks-time-attack.html.
You mention Florida. I have also seen videos of gators ambushing hunters and the hunters running faster than Forrest Gump. Not for me.
What would bring me back to SE Asia? LBFMs, plain and simple. When is that likely to happen? Not soon because of Covid19. What will change? My risk / reward payoff. My only relevant regret now is the good bonks I missed out on.
In digging up the twin croc story, I saw other stories of Greek, Spanish and Portuguese tour operators complaining the bigger powers are deliberately keeping their own lot at home to benefit the home front. Certainly last summer, home holidays cost a fortune. Here is a cheap site touting cheap flights to California. In 2022. SEAsia, forget about it. https://www.holidaypirates.com/flights.
Nishant123
06-13-21, 08:57
See the attachment.Propaganda against India at its best.
This is fake news like most other news.
And word play also at its best.
Instead of danger sign they wrote 'skull and bones' to make it ultra dramatic.
I'm somewhat surprised that you haven't yet received your vaccines given that my two friends who live in Makati got jabbed weeks ago, one with Sinovac and the other with AstraZeneca. GE.I would be quite okay with jabs from either Astra or Zeneca.
WestCoast1
06-13-21, 12:01
I would be quite okay with jabs from either Astra or Zeneca.Wow. Thankfully I am not yet 65. And lately I have been a '2-jab' guy. Go Astra. Go Zeneca. Praise be!
GoodEnough
06-13-21, 12:39
Wow. Thankfully I am not yet 65. And lately I have been a '2-jab' guy. Go Astra. Go Zeneca. Praise be!Sixty is the magic age for being officially classified as "old" here. But you can stay a two jab guy forever.
GE.
WestCoast1
06-13-21, 22:51
Sixty is the magic age for being officially classified as "old" here. But you can stay a two jab guy forever.
GE.Haha with the help of certain. . . Vitamins. . .
WestCoast1
06-14-21, 01:46
I have no intention of flying to the USA. SINP Vaccinated Cattle: I know plenty of qualified people warning against these shots, which are now being dispensed to children with God knows what long term results. I don't rely on sex sites like this or google for such information and you should not insinuate otherwise.
Good. You trot out figures from the USA, a place I never wish to see again. I thinks we gots some negativity going on here.
Attached pic, chocolate taco from a 22 yo, to warm your cockels of your. . . Heart. She's waiting for you MM.I offer a peace / piece symbol. The previous pic posted in this thread from last week was a 'before' pic. Today the 'after' pic. Another lass who seems to need re-vaxxing, often.
START.
"MANILA The 17 mayors of Metro Manila unanimously voted to shorten curfew hours in the capital region in a bid to spur economic activity, an official said on Monday, pointing to the area's improving COVID-19 figures.
The region's coronavirus average daily attack rate, or the total number of new cases divided by the total population, has gone down to 6. 76 percent. Meanwhile, the bed occupancy rate also went down to 36.3 percent, said Metropolitan Manila Development Authority (MMDA) chairperson Benhur Abalos.
This prompted mayors on Sunday to agree to adjusting the curfew hours to 12 AM to 4 AM, starting June 15, said Abalos, who is also the concurrent head of the Metro Manila Council, the policy-making body of the MMDA.
(This will give more time to people who will eat at restaurants, for malls to open with leeway for travel time, and perhaps really help our economy. This was approved by all mayors of Metro Manila.).
Previous curfew hours started at 10 PM, he noted. ".
END.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/06/14/21/metro-manila-curfew-june-2021
That's good news for those living in the Metro Manila region and an improvement on the current start of the curfew at 10 pm, so it's going in the right direction. I'm in Cebu City where there is currently an overnight curfew that starts at 11 pm, but I have not seen any news about a relaxation of this curfew here.
PedroMorales
06-14-21, 09:01
I thinks we gots some negativity going on here.
I offer a peace / piece symbol. The previous pic posted in this thread from last week was a 'before' pic. Today the 'after' pic. Another lass who seems to need re-vaxxing, often.You have issues and an unhealthy fixation on posting vaginas to compensate for your lack of grey matter, much like the other expat who cannot even recommend a hotel. Get your issues treated. Confine your pathetic smut pics to the photo section or, preferably, to your own hard drive.
Like others, I am monitoring this site and others for signs of better tomorrows, for information which will allow me make better and more informed decisions. You are simply one of the expat / tourist types that is best avoided with little to no informational content.
Here in Europe, the travel and mixing wings continue to be clipped, except for those of the G7 "leaders" of course. Still, if it means avoiding pathetic perverts, it is no bad thing.
For me, I keep busy. I finish a licensing course tomorrow that opens up yet more panoramas, sexual and otherwise. Life is not just the end of a beer glass or a trike drivers' left overs.
And yes, it is interesting how the other half lives, or pretend to live.
That's good news for those living in the Metro Manila region and an improvement on the current start of the curfew at 10 pm, so it's going in the right direction. I'm in Cebu City where there is currently an overnight curfew that starts at 11 pm, but I have not seen any news about a relaxation of this curfew here.Can head out to a bar for the first Euro's game of day. Doubt that was on mayors mind, but who knows!
Member #4794
06-14-21, 17:51
You are simply one of the expat / tourist types that is best avoided with little to no informational content.
Kick rocks nothing you say adds any value its all disjointed overtry pretentious wastes of time, you quite frankly seem to have very little grasp of the Philippines and its culture, "WestCoast1 " IS what this board is about period a model citizen imo. Your observations are way off base about the country you should be more appreciative of all these guys since you lack any real understanding. Learn something instead of just posting your psychotic musings for the good of the forum. Maybe your background or something makes it impossible to understand "asians" in general and you seem to hate mongers and pussy so pretty toxic. Only reason I'm posting this is so that others understand that the things you post are far from reality I hope none of the noobs here believe anything you have posted. I did ask nicely once before.
PedroMorales
06-14-21, 20:02
All WC1 gives is pictures of pussies. It reminds me of low life who scrawl on walls or dump litter or worse. I see it is an issue on the Indian board where folk dump photos of women but I do not venture there, I have lived in Asia for double digit years and the only problems I have had there were with Americans, whom I generally loathe for the same type of reasons most others despise them. Not all Americans but large swathes of them, the ugly Americans if you like. A large amount of mongers are scum. Check out Pattaya in normal high season, English soccer hooligan types. Of course, there are a lot of golf loving retirees there, as in Angeles but they are a different group again.
You may not have noticed but it has been difficult to travel recently. I have, as I travel a lot. On the plus side, an American based ASIAN air stewardess I have been bonking for some years is making the occasional flight in here, so I am evolving accordingly and tweaking my game. I do also notice hookers are travelling but they are generally over priced.
As regards the Philippines and its culture, are you trying to tell me that some lout who is fixated on posting pictures of anonymous pussies has a grasp of anything? Maybe endless pictures of pussies are what passes for culture ion Unabomber country.
The situation here in the civilized world is travel is severely restricted and becoming even more so, with ordinary people's plans being messed up in very big ways. That being so, reports are like hen's teeth, though reports are not a one size fits all deal in any event. Many reports are Dear Diary type and have little transferrable information. That is partly why IU advised some dude in Davao to ask his marks on advice where to stay. That is a tactic that has served me well in the past.
The governments of Greece and other countries are very suspicious of the air bans as the price of staycations has rocketed, even as they lose out.
I will improve my game and get as much real pussy (not moronic pictures) as I need. You stay with your moronic jokes about penile vaccinations.
Kick rocks nothing you say adds any value its all disjointed overtry pretentious wastes of time, you quite frankly seem to have very little grasp of the Philippines and its culture, "WestCoast1 " IS what this board is about period a model citizen imo. Your observations are way off base about the country you should be more appreciative of all these guys since you lack any real understanding. Learn something instead of just posting your psychotic musings for the good of the forum. Maybe your background or something makes it impossible to understand "asians" in general and you seem to hate mongers and pussy so pretty toxic. Only reason I'm posting this is so that others understand that the things you post are far from reality I hope none of the noobs here believe anything you have posted. I did ask nicely once before.
. ..That being so, reports are like hen's teeth, though reports are not a one size fits all deal in any event. Many reports are Dear Diary type and have little transferrable information.. Ahmpf. . I don't mean to intrude. But it is kindof nice that there is a guy that's been actually roaming around in the Philippines lately, and taking the time to write up tons of stuff about daily life in the county.
All WC1 gives is pictures of pussies.A lot better than your normal, useless drivel. Most people would agree. I usually ignore your write-ups. But to badmouth a solid contributor cannot be ignored. Most people ignore you; I will start again.
It reminds me of low life whoHave you looked in the mirror!
OK. Penalty pic for writing something that should go on the "Stupid Shit" section.
This was from 2012. Got them from Lolipop / Ziggy. I haven't seen them since. The pussy is not that pretty. She should have shaved it more. There seems to be some stretch marks near the ass. But I always believe a 5 that does everything is a 10.
GoodEnough
06-15-21, 13:00
You have issues and an unhealthy fixation on posting vaginas to compensate for your lack of grey matter, much like the other expat who cannot even recommend a hotel. Get your issues treated. Confine your pathetic smut pics to the photo section or, preferably, to your own hard drive.
Like others, I am monitoring this site and others for signs of better tomorrows, for information which will allow me make better and more informed decisions. You are simply one of the expat / tourist types that is best avoided with little to no informational content.
Here in Europe, the travel and mixing wings continue to be clipped, except for those of the G7 "leaders" of course. Still, if it means avoiding pathetic perverts, it is no bad thing.
For me, I keep busy. I finish a licensing course tomorrow that opens up yet more panoramas, sexual and otherwise. Life is not just the end of a beer glass or a trike drivers' left overs.
And yes, it is interesting how the other half lives, or pretend to live.If you're going to attempt to write scathing vitriol in English, I suggest you take a course or two and brush up on grammar and syntax. If might help your (to date) ineffective attempts at self-expression. You do come across as a self-loathing, somewhat jealous and permanently angry person projecting his inadequacies onto those actually living the life for which he longs. I usually ignore your posts, given their general lack of substance and insights, but your unprovoked—and unwarranted—attacks on WC prompted me to comment on the vapidity of your typical attempts to contribute to a dialogue that concerns subjects into which you have no insights.
GE.
Member #4794
06-15-21, 20:16
A large amount of mongers are scum.And damn proud of it. You might find some social justice forum to be more of your cup of tea. You say the same things the women I run from in the US say, for as much as you say you hate the USA you act, speak and outrage like the leftist whitest lady on the innerwebs. You say you are evolving I think you are evolving into an over the hill menopausal white lady, your post sound like and old lady wrote them like your recent paranoid delusion about serial killer hookers. AND its not just the "white" guys that are disgusting in all my time mongering I have never seen a handsome monger and shit that's good for me the women can't run to my table fast enough LOL! Have you seen Reekaay he has to be one of the most off-putting hideously ugly individuals I have ever come across on the internet. Instead of being jealous or offended like you are it gives me hope that means I can turn into a troll still be as successful as Reekaay with endless amount of pussy. If none of the information suits your purpose why torment everyone else with your estrogen charged rants? You have just been unfortunately misguided by your "friends", I think what you really want is to learn how these guys who you see as not your "friends" can be ugly scum of the earth and still land the most beautiful girls in the world just sounds like a jealous school girls musings to me, you are doing it the hard way imo. At the very least you are in the right place to learn something.
WestCoast1
06-16-21, 02:30
Pedro! Seems we will agree to disagree on things. In the spirit of open discussion of issues, Pedro has the privilege of speaking his mind.
Gents who have defended me here, and also defended the literal essence of this Board, a sincere thanks. However for my sake there is no need. My body of work remains as is (including my corny jokes), and I believe that it includes more than just pics. More poon for all (and I'm not even running for office here).
Dr. Westy (his new name) should not be denegrated. He is doing the Lord's work in the Phils, giving seminal vaccinations to all the pinay's who want them. A real trooper.
CrowExplorer
06-16-21, 19:54
And damn proud of it. You might find some social justice forum to be more of your cup of tea. You say the same things the women I run from in the US say, for as much as you say you hate the USA you act, speak and outrage like the leftist whitest lady on the innerwebs. You say you are evolving I think you are evolving into an over the hill menopausal white lady, your post sound like and old lady wrote them like your recent paranoid delusion about serial killer hookers. AND its not just the "white" guys that are disgusting in all my time mongering I have never seen a handsome monger and shit that's good for me the women can't run to my table fast enough LOL! Have you seen Reekaay he has to be one of the most off-putting hideously ugly individuals I have ever come across on the internet. Instead of being jealous or offended like you are it gives me hope that means I can turn into a troll still be as successful as Reekaay with endless amount of pussy. If none of the information suits your purpose why torment everyone else with your estrogen charged rants? You have just been unfortunately misguided by your "friends", I think what you really want is to learn how these guys who you see as not your "friends" can be ugly scum of the earth and still land the most beautiful girls in the world just sounds like a jealous school girls musings to me, you are doing it the hard way imo. At the very least you are in the right place to learn something.MontanaMonger is preaching Gods Gospel Truth. That leftist / feminist / socialist garbage you keep regurgitating might impress your hip trendy friends in Europe, but have no bearing in the real world, and definitely not on this forum. Nobody here is going to pat you on the back for trash talking Americans (very original) or white men. Save that type of obvious virtue-signalling and fake anger for a climate change or communist forum, not here. If you want to virtue signal here, tell us about your favorite LBFM and where your fellow mongers can meet her.
WestCoast1
06-17-21, 02:26
Dr. Westy (his new name) should not be denegrated. He is doing the Lord's work in the Phils, giving seminal vaccinations to all the pinay's who want them. A real trooper.Ya. What Free2 said.
Update, see pic. From the DOH and IATF, dated June 13. Almost 2 million fully vaxxed in Phils. Rolling 7-day average is about 140 K vaxxes per day.
Member #4794
06-17-21, 07:37
Is this real news? Can any one in phils confirm that they are lifting the face shield requirements? This is a huge step in the right direction. I was not looking forward to wearing a face shield. Overstay road complains profusely about the face shields.
"Face shields lifted outdoors".
https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/357354
Is this real news? Can any one in phils confirm that they are lifting the face shield requirements? This is a huge step in the right direction. I was not looking forward to wearing a face shield. Overstay road complains profusely about the face shields.
"Face shields lifted outdoors".
https://manilastandard.net/mobile/article/357354Face shields haven't really ever been worn outdoors. They made the rule but nobody followed it. The Filipinos are tired of the BS too. You have to wear then in most large establishments while shopping such as malls, grocery stores, govt. Offices, 50/50 on smaller businesses. Mini marts, bars, restaurants, you wear a facemask to get in then take it off. Don't listen to information from the local Youtube Clown Show.
WestCoast1
06-17-21, 10:55
Is this real news? Can any one in phils confirm that they are lifting the face shield requirements? It appears to be outdoors only.
Here's another article from yesterday:
https://www.philstar.com/headlines/2021/06/16/2105965/standing-policy-doh-maintains-use-face-shield-certain-spaces
"Vega had told a Laging Handa briefing earlier today that individuals can opt to remove their face shields when outside, especially if it would obstruct the vision of those wearing it.
Per the DOH, face shields are required when in the following areas:
enclosed public spaces
schools
workplaces
commercial establishments such as, but not limited to, food establishments, malls, and public markets
public transport and terminals
places of worship
other public spaces wherein 1 meter physical distancing is not possible and if there is a gathering of more than 10 people at the same venue and time
SNIP
In the same hearing, Interior Secretary Eduardo Ao said the non-wearing of face shields should carry no penalty in LGUs' ordinances. Such should only be imposed when not wearing face masks, violating social distancing, as well as on mass gatherings, he added."
GoodEnough
06-17-21, 12:54
Face shields haven't really ever been worn outdoors. They made the rule but nobody followed it. The Filipinos are tired of the BS too. You have to wear then in most large establishments while shopping such as malls, grocery stores, govt. Offices, 50/50 on smaller businesses. Mini marts, bars, restaurants, you wear a facemask to get in then take it off. Don't listen to information from the local Youtube Clown Show.Again, I think that depends in large part on where you are. Here in Davao, folks are not removing face masks in any commercial establishments though no one has taken the face shields seriously for months.
GE.
WestCoast1
06-18-21, 03:11
Face shields haven't really ever been worn outdoors. They made the rule but nobody followed it. There has been quite a noticeable drop in wearing the shield in the last few months or so, just after the last ECQ here. Reading your post a few hours ago, I went out to a convenience store a few blocks up late this afternoon, and took a close look at who was wearing a shield in the street. About 20% had a shield on their face, and another 20% had one on top of their head (as was mine; the store does not allow inside without one). More than half had no shield at all, not perched on their head, not in their hand. I took note of the jeeps, everyone had one on inside a jeeps that I could see. Once inside the store everyone was wearing a mask and shield covering their face (except me, my shield was on top of my head).
SNIP restaurants, you wear a facemask to get in then take it off. I find this to be either a contradiction (not your post, B). The restaurants. You have to be properly wearing your mask + shield to enter a restaurant. Then once inside, you are going to quickly remove them to eat your food. As resto's, bars and such are re-opening, there is more barkada happening, where people sit and chat for an hour or more, the mask and shield are off their heads. As the mask in public is required by law, the shield is not. Why require the shield (that will quickly be removed) to enter a resto / bar? Recently I was about to enter a fast-foot place around 7 am. Just as I was reaching for the door handle, the wind blew the shield from where it was perched atop my head. I grabbed it with my left hand, while opening the door with my right. The guard motioned with his hand over his face and said "Shield". I put it on, correctly, over my face. He let me in and directed me to the sign-in table. As I grabbed the ink pen and contact trace form I also took off the shield (can't see to write when its on my face) as I do everytime I enter any resto. Less than 10 seconds inside the door wearing a shield (as do some others), I just don't see the need for a requirement to have it to enter many businesses. In a mall or grocery store I can understand the academic argument for the mask and the shield, each might mitigate contagions in the air. But in a resto / bar you must take it off (to eat) in order to make the business profitable. Every resto that requires a shield to enter is turning away business from customers on the street who happen not to be wearing a shield and want to stop in for Chickenjoy, a coke, and some aircon.
Again, I think that depends in large part on where you are. Here in Davao, folks are not removing face masks in any commercial establishments though no one has taken the face shields seriously for months.Beavis might have mistaken the mask for shield? I concur about the mask, its universally worn in public (that is, outside the compound; inside their compound around fam / neighbors many either don't wear it at all, or they have it on and pulled down below the chin). Everyone has their mask on correctly in public. An exception might be street vendors who work outside in the heat of the day, sometimes they step into the shade and pull down their mask below their chin to get some fresh air. On occasion I also see a security guard, sitting alone and bored at a closed business, playing on his phone with his mask below his chin. In my example above about watching how many people were wearing a shield, everyone had a mask on, both in the street and inside the store.
News: Some of the bars in Malate have re-opened, with mixed social-distancing protocols.
Beavis might have mistaken the mask for shield? I concur about the mask, its universally worn in public (that is, outside the compound; inside their compound around fam / neighbors many either don't wear it at all, or they have it on and pulled down below the chin). Everyone has their mask on correctly in public. An exception might be street vendors who work outside in the heat of the day, sometimes they step into the shade and pull down their mask below their chin to get some fresh air. On occasion I also see a security guard, sitting alone and bored at a closed business, playing on his phone with his mask below his chin. In my example above about watching how many people were wearing a shield, everyone had a mask on, both in the street and inside the store.
News: Some of the bars in Malate have re-opened, with mixed social-distancing protocols.No mistake on which is a mask or shield. Just observations from Luzon.
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