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Congerww
03-14-07, 06:05
thanks for ......

Re the begging thing, correct me if I'm wrong but I think the syndicates that use children are mostly in Manila, Cebu and Angeles (where the foreigners are as Filipinos tend not to be overly generous with beggars). Re an ordinance banning GIVING (as opposed to begging), that is both constitutionally unsound (not that that stops them in the PI as Mayor Lim proved time and again) and of VERY dubious morality. I do not give to the kids or mothers holding babies, but I do give to amputees or others with obvious physical deformities or disabilities. Believing in the principle of ethical egoism (everything we do is really for ourselves despite any appearance of philanthropy), I confess to feeling better about my own privileged station in life when I do this. I will SEEK OUT the disabled, rather than responding to those who approach me, and give them a pocketfull of coins. If anybody, including Mayor Duterte or Asheron, is bothered by that charity too bad because I know I have the angels on my side.I agree with you on the begging and giving. I have 4 or 5 beggers I give to everyday. I make sure they get enough money from me to have at least one meal. Normally I give them 20peso but If I have not been around for a few days I will give 50 or more to make up. All of these have deformities. They are old timers here. Meaning I have seen them for over a year. They see me, and smile and do not ask anything else from me that day, even though I have never asked them to leave me alone.

I know that they make more than the average wage earner does, but they also miss out on most of what is good in life.

We have a great deal of new beggers show up for awhile and then vanish. One has to wonder why there is this constant turn over of beggers. I can only suspect, but believe it is controled begging for someone's profit. I can not prove this, and giving is up to one's conscience. My standard is to give only to those who I clearly see have a deformity, never to the kids unless they seem extremely dirty and hungry. If there is someone making profit, kids would be the way to scam us.

That being said, several times at Sub Delicious I have offered a begging kid my left over food, such as half a sub or my rice, and everytime, the kid or kids ate the food as if they were starving. Several times when this has happen, I have ordered cokes for them, and I always rethink my position on giving to kids. So far I am sticking to my guns and not give money. I am never sure I am right and it does bother my conscience to the point of wet eyes sometime. Food yes sometimes, money not yet anyways.

Pute Nut
03-14-07, 10:28
I agree with you on the begging and giving. I have 4 or 5 beggers I give to everyday. I make sure they get enough money from me to have at least one meal. Normally I give them 20peso but If I have not been around for a few days I will give 50 or more to make up.

Thanks a million. So you're one of the soft hearts feeding this disgusting industry. This ensures that we will have so many beggars living the "meaningful lifes" in the polluted cesspool called Fields, instead of doing something useful in their hometown. Only because congerww and his friends simply pay better for their Fields freak show.

The good news is that Lazatin has announced that the beggar kids will be taken off the street and put in detention centers, where their parent/s can pick them up. Repeat offenders will face charges. Let's see how well this will be implemented, the PNP and "props police" (police aids) are not doing much at all, except touting guns and riding their motorcycles and van with flashing lights. Both soliciting (mostly done by baklas, who often double as poor pickpockets) and begging are criminal acts in the Phils.

I have never ever given one single peso to beggars in the Philippines, but I gladly buy stuff from ambitious street hawkers (who are not too makulit). Check out the hard working flower lady walking around Balibago for instance. Flowers Sir? Looks like she's at it for almost 24/7.

Spam Hog
03-14-07, 12:40
I guess Im a soft touch, coz I DO GIVE TO BEGGARS occassionally. I dont always give them money, for example I usually get hit up by some of the old women in the market place. I usually give them some produce I've bought, a mango or two, once in awhile a coin if that makes me a chump so be it. I sometimes give to the blind guys in the street being led around by a kid when the come to my car usually my change or something. Surfer is correct about the syndicates using the kids, but it is NOT limited to Manila, it was getting out of hand in Davao so the big D stepped in. I dont see that many in Cebu. I've got mixed emotions about handing out to kids, I have at times given them some of my food if I'm coming out of McD's (At my age I shouldn't be eating fries anyhow) or a roll or two if I'm coming out of the bakery, but I balk at money, Mrs spamhog assures me they spend it for rugby.

Regards tipping I usually DO tip, maybe not much but I usually leave something. I'm a great believer in spreading the wealth around. Of course most of that is in places most of the brethern don''t go and the people are shy and even embarassed to ask or take it. The strong exception I have is with an obvious hustler or somebody trying to play me for a fool. Of course during my mongering days I tipped sweetie according to performace/technique etc.

I have never heard of intentional maiming of children in the PI, there are enough polio vicitms and amputees due to lack of antibiotics for normally easily treated infections. However, I have seen some examples of this in Thailand where they have well organized beggar clans and a "king". But you must understand the Thai and the Cambodians have a totally different atitude towards the issue. One makes merit (Tham boon) in the eyes of Bhudda even if its a scam (like those guys in front of the Wat who have the birds you pay to release, then the little prick is trained to fly back in its cage).

regards

Spamhog

Opebo
03-14-07, 13:26
cambodia was plenty depressing. the killing fields and kr torture center tuol sleng were bad, but the worst was climbing the stairs of wat phnom and seeing a different malady or amputee. cambodia's land mine problem has created the largest proportion of amputees in the world. truly like peering into the gates of hell it was.


the depressing thing about cambodia, surfer, is not poverty, genocide, or amputations, but that the forces of social control closed k11.

personally i give only to one begger - the old man at soi yamoto and beach road in pattaya who pretends to have an amputated hand. it is obviously fake, which i like. i only give him less than five baht for the gag though.

Pute Nut
03-14-07, 14:50
I guess Im a soft touch, coz I DO GIVE TO BEGGARS occassionally. I dont always give them money, for example I usually get hit up by some of the old women in the market place.

Yeah, OK I have to admit I sometimes give a little food to the kids, if I'm munching on something. This way they can't use is for rugby etc.

As for tipping I usually tip P20 for good service w/ a smile. If they screw up (which is pretty often) or if they are just lazy and ignorant (often too) they get zip, period.

Case in point. The waitress screwed up my order at Salvatores, despite my asking her "have you completely understood my order?" (providing her with an excellent opportunity to re-check anything not clear, and of course any further explaining by me after her affirmative answer equals calling her dumb).

When the pizza arrives it's messed up with the wrong ingredients in the right place or vice versa lol. No apology, no discount, no free drink, no nothing (I asked, mostly to prove my point that PI businesses enjoys screwing their customers and get away with it). The waitress suggested they'd "rework" the pizza (no thanks). Zero tip and just another "costumer service" experience in PI ;)

Sponsor74
03-15-07, 20:32
Pricing is a controversial topic as YMMV, so I will give you RANGES (and your post talks ST rates so I assume that is you preference):

1. BKK has nothing like LA Cafe where you can get freelancers for ST as low as 500, more likely 1000, and never more than 1500. No bar fine.

2. EDSA Complex: Barfine=1,000 Piso and for ST between 1K & 2K tip to girl.

3. Makati/PBurgos: have not been up there in almost as long that I have not been back to Angeles, but generally 50% higher than EDSA if not more.

4. Internet: join either Cherryblossoms or Filipinaheart for a month BEFORE you go, then line up girls than run the gamut from HCH (hard Core Hos) to virgins seeking a husband to EVERYTHING in between. You can do Yahoo messenger for free BUT WAY more scams and less lucrative (this is secondhand though as I have never done it as I do SO well on the other two).

5. Shopping malls: freelancers abound.

6. Get AWAY from tourist areas and you'll see TONS of possibilities. Get hooked up with a good local procurer and you'll have more than you can handle.

Hello Surfer

I have seen your fight in the Thailand Forum and I can only say that you have my support and try to forget this fighting guy.

Thanks again for you valuable info regarding Manila / PHI. For sure you are much better member than this guy in this Forum. Bye

Congerww
03-16-07, 05:46
Thanks a million. So you're one of the soft hearts feeding this disgusting industry. This ensures that we will have so many beggars living the "meaningful lifes" in the polluted cesspool called Fields, instead of doing something useful in their hometown.Let me see if I understand you. All the Girls are here in Angeles because they rather fuck an old guy like me than live the full rich useful life back home. Wow, Now I really feel great. Did not know I was such a good lover!

Pute Nut
03-16-07, 11:01
Let me see if I understand you. All the Girls are here in Angeles because they rather fuck an old guy like me than live the full rich useful life back home. Wow, Now I really feel great. Did not know I was such a good lover!

Good on you if you feel great, but I am afraid you are mixing up working girls and beggars here. I know AC can do these things to you, but I certainly hope you do not fuck the beggars.

White Wolf
03-16-07, 22:50
Thanks a million. So you're one of the soft hearts feeding this disgusting industry. This ensures that we will have so many beggars living the "meaningful lifes" in the polluted cesspool called Fields, instead of doing something useful in their hometown. Only because congerww and his friends simply pay better for their Fields freak show.

He was talking about people with deformities and disabilities. How can you expect those people to lead a meaningful life. Most of them can't hold or do a regular job. Or aren't hired by any employers. And as there is no system in place in the phils to help these people they don't have any real choice. I don't like beggars that look like they can work a normal job, but feel pity for those that are deformed and sometimes give to them.

Pute Nut
03-16-07, 23:20
He was talking about people with deformities and disabilities. How can you expect those people to lead a meaningful life. Most of them can't hold or do a regular job. Or aren't hired by any employers. And as there is no system in place in the phils to help these people they don't have any real choice. I don't like beggars that look like they can work a normal job, but feel pity for those that are deformed and sometimes give to them.

Actually, there is a lot you can do with what you've still got. Your life certainly doesn't end with your deformation, accidental or deliberate. I know first hand of one guy who is blind and makes an OK living selling cellphone loads, for instance.

The beggars are in Fields because the soft hearts simply pay them better to lie in the gutter dirty asking for handouts than doing something more productive elsewhere.

Moreover, by steering your funds to amputees and deformed beggars you certainly provide economic incentive for various schemes that are very unpleasant. I am not claiming this is common in Phils, but it certainly is elsewhere. I don't want to feed such an industry. Never, ever.

Hesekiels
03-17-07, 01:38
I have 4 or 5 beggars I give to everyday. I make sure they get enough money from me to have at least one meal. Normally I give them 20peso but If I have not been around for a few days I will give 50 or more to make up.

Congerww:

Kudos to you! But why only 4 or 5 beggars instead of 14 or 15, or, even better, 40 to 50? And why did you feed just Jhun, Eduardo, Maria Ana and Beth, but not Carla, Ruby, Gemma and Ramon - who are all getting jealous with the others now?! No offense, just curiousity!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Fastpiston
03-18-07, 08:22
Congerww:

Kudos to you! But why only 4 or 5 beggars instead of 14 or 15, or, even better, 40 to 50? And why did you feed just Jhun, Eduardo, Maria Ana and Beth, but not Carla, Ruby, Gemma and Ramon - who are all getting jealous with the others now?! No offense, just curiousity!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Can we please move off beggars and get back to the subject of this forum...

Hesekiels
03-18-07, 18:06
You have a good heart. Please do not go to India where you will really feel bad, where kids are actually maimed purposely to become beggars. Very Very Sick, but true. I truly do not think that happens in the Philippines.



Sure, Fastpiston, excellent idea, let's move on quickly to another topic (the beggars stuff is indeed so depressing, isn't it!?)! Any proposal? Your choice!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Surfer
03-18-07, 19:04
cute girl at MNL airport who escorted me to gate (Biz class on Asiana)

Wolfie Mike
03-18-07, 20:30
cute girl at MNL airport who escorted me to gate (Biz class on Asiana)Certainly very cute - almost fit in the hand luggage!

Dashing Don
03-25-07, 04:17
Just got back this afternoon from a trip to the PI. I'll marshall my thoughts in the next few days and write a decent report. But what a homecoming present....I'm talking about Surfer of course!

Funny thing about serial antagonists; they seem to draw the latent/nascent 'serial antagonist' out of otherwise normal posters. But lets not gloat.

Later,

Don

X Man
03-27-07, 18:37
We'll all be looking forward to a report from dashin dick.

Didn't see you at edsa, dick. You described yourself, but whe I went there, I didn't see anyone like how you described.....unless you are a Korean guy.

Why did surfer get banned?

X

Dashing Don
03-28-07, 05:58
We'll all be looking forward to a report from dashin dick.

Didn't see you at edsa, dick. You described yourself, but whe I went there, I didn't see anyone like how you described.....unless you are a Korean guy.

X

Hi X and thanks for the warm salutation.

No, I'm not Korean. Pure caucasian actually. Sorry to disappoint.

Funny how its not apparent to you why Surfer was canned, because when Junior was banned, you also voiced your incomprehension--and pain. Maybe it has to do with your difficulty distinguishing between flames and actual reports? Ergo this recent post of yours.

X Man
03-29-07, 04:06
Now, DD, you really disappoint me. You suggest I'm flaming you, yet that was just a good natured response to your little dig earlier in the month.

As for Junior and Surfer, both were giving contributions in the Philippine threads. Apparently they had problems on other threads. With Junior in particular, it seemed his detractors came to the Philippine threads just to provoke him.

And I see the same thing with you. You gloat just because someone you dislike was banned. How is that a useful contribution to the list?

Anyway, the lady you pulled out of Cotton Club -- is that why Meann wasn't there when I went? I hate you dude! Fortunately, I found little Ching who turned out to be quite satisfactory in the bed and personality department.

I might put up some pictures later.

X


Hi X and thanks for the warm salutation.

No, I'm not Korean. Pure caucasian actually. Sorry to disappoint.

Funny how its not apparent to you why Surfer was canned, because when Junior was banned, you also voiced your incomprehension--and pain. Maybe it has to do with your difficulty distinguishing between flames and actual reports? Ergo this recent post of yours.

Dashing Don
03-29-07, 17:49
Ok X, here she is, in all her glory. She looks great and walks great; very sexy. Gets barfined about twice a week she tells me, often by Japanese, who pay a lot. I paid 2K which I though was right.

X Man
03-29-07, 18:57
Well, that wasn't Meann, so who knows who was boinking her that night.

x

Correspondent
03-30-07, 13:16
Well, that wasn't Meann, so who knows who was boinking her that night.

xFrom what I can see of her, this girl has an exceptional looking body.
Just my type. (Hope you have more of her to post!)

Spam Hog
04-07-07, 08:08
Check out the article, click on the business section of yahoo and see for yourself.

Spamhog

Asheron
04-07-07, 09:16
Malaria tablets, do you take them?

Is the risk really that high?

Bill Buxton
04-08-07, 04:14
Anyone know of a good reasonable car van service in "Tacloban" With service to Naval area?

Would like to have the info if anyone has it.

Also what money changers are a good honest deal in the LA,CAFE area?I have never used any In this area.I would like more info on a good one here and also in the Makati area also.I have seen an old post months back on a money changer in the greenbelt mall area that had some good reviews.

Thanks,

B.B.

Spam Hog
04-08-07, 04:22
Malaria tablets, do you take them?

Is the risk really that high?


I have taken quinine before for to safeguard against malaria, correct me if I am wrong but that is the only medicine I'm aware of unless something new is on the market. I took them in east Timor but never here as they Make me sick as hell.

Just my shanty Irish opinion but unless you are going to be spending a lot of time in the "bush" (the jungle kind, not the other he he) I don't see the need for it. Dengue is prevelant in some areas, especially Mindanao where a number of children die each year, mostly in the provenices but some cases in Davao/Toril area where kids play in stagnant water.


Regards

Spamhog

Nightrider1
04-08-07, 11:22
I forgot to mention in my trip report about Penrex tablets. I had met a chatmate in Cebu who worked at a Watsons Pharmacy there and we got on the subject of Viagra and other ED drugs. She told me they could not be bought without a prescription but that they sold a product called Penrex which a lot of her older male customers bought. It is made in China and comes 2 tablets per pack witha price of 250 P. Its non prescription but is behind the counter so you do have to ask for it. I tried it and felt it was benificial so maybe others here can comment on it if they have also used it.

Spam Hog
04-09-07, 08:45
I forgot to mention in my trip report about Penrex tablets. I had met a chatmate in Cebu who worked at a Watsons Pharmacy there and we got on the subject of Viagra and other ED drugs. She told me they could not be bought without a prescription but that they sold a product called Penrex which a lot of her older male customers bought. It is made in China and comes 2 tablets per pack witha price of 250 P. Its non prescription but is behind the counter so you do have to ask for it. I tried it and felt it was benificial so maybe others here can comment on it if they have also used it.


Penerex is indeed available at most Pharmacies and is purportedly "Natures" Viagra and Ciala (???) However, please note, Penerex relies on a healthy dose of vitamin E and some ginsing. I have never used penrex as
I use Centrum silver and regular gel caps of Vitamin E (400 IUE) cost is P8 and P4 respectivly, Korean Ginsing tea which I drink every morning is P 10 or P8 a pack. So you can substitute those components save a lot of money and have your little soldier standing at attention, yes it works, I am a great believer in ginsing since I began taking it two years ago.

I'm not against viagra, never tried it, but I'm leery of the side effects at my age, Tried Ciala once (gave me a high fever along with a raging hard on) I see both being sold on the street everywhere and I would caution anyone against relying on such, you never know exactly what the hell it is and judging from some of the low lifes hawking this stuff probably some kinda "rip".

regards
Spamhog

Lazy Lover
04-10-07, 01:46
Juat finished Vietnam, China, Cambodia, And Thailand for 3 months. NOW I AM HOOKED ON ASIA. The scenery, the people, culture, food, etc.

Oh yes and the girls.

SO where to next FALL for one month, late Oct/Nov: Indonesia or Philippines?

THIS TRIP will primarily be about the sex, I admit. Been in a dry spell blast few years and I am now UNLEASHED by these delightful gals over there. Wanna keep my expenses down to about $1200 for the month, excluding RT travel. I sleep, eat, and bus cheaply no problem.

I need to balance expenses with worthwhile sightseeing. Seems Indonesia is way prettier than Philippines, but Philippines cheaper (incl airfare).

I need this while I save up for a big year long trip in 2 years. I'll hit both on the big trip, especially exploring Indonesia for a good couple months methinks,

If you search the Vietnam thread you'll see a humorous first time travel experience I had. They'll be more.

SixteenVolt182
04-10-07, 20:51
I will be in Manila in May, I want to see my GF in Angeles. What is the best way to get there from Manila with 2 bags? I am not sure of the best safest way to travel. Any advise would be appreciated.

Thanks

Fastpiston
04-11-07, 04:59
Malaria tablets, do you take them?

Is the risk really that high?

Malaria is not a problem in Phils., unless you go deep in jungles in which case guys with guns are a greater danger than the tiny mosquitoes!
Dengue fever in towns a far greater problem during the rainy season. Just use anti mosquito spray / cream, readily available in supermarkets in Phils and cover up with light colored cloths. Spray hotel room in mid afternoon after room is made up, then keep un-netted windows, doors closed if there is a local Dengue outbreak.

Pute Nut
04-11-07, 09:54
Malaria is not a problem in Phils.

Hmmm...Rey Langit may have a contradictory opinion on that...

As for malaria prevention, one doxy a day might work.

Dengue is a problem, true. But if you're otherwise healthy you will (most likely) survive. I think it's said that one in about 200.000 mosqitoes carry Dengue in PI. Count your bites ;)

Buko Max
04-11-07, 10:06
I will be in Manila in May, I want to see my GF in Angeles. What is the best way to get there from Manila with 2 bags? I am not sure of the best safest way to travel. Any advise would be appreciated.
If you cannot fly directly into Clark, then Swagman's "Fly The Bus" is a safe alternative.

Spam Hog
04-12-07, 06:32
juat finished vietnam, china, cambodia, and thailand for 3 months. now i am hooked on asia. the scenery, the people, culture, food, etc.

oh yes and the girls.

so where to next fall for one month, late oct/nov: indonesia or philippines?

this trip will primarily be about the sex, i admit. been in a dry spell blast few years and i am now unleashed by these delightful gals over there. wanna keep my expenses down to about $1200 for the month, excluding rt travel. i sleep, eat, and bus cheaply no problem.

i need to balance expenses with worthwhile sightseeing. seems indonesia is way prettier than philippines, but philippines cheaper (incl airfare).

i need this while i save up for a big year long trip in 2 years. i'll hit both on the big trip, especially exploring indonesia for a good couple months methinks,

if you search the vietnam thread you'll see a humorous first time travel experience i had. they'll be more.


sounds like you been having yourself a time! some years ago before getting married and settling in the phils, i too roamed the pacific rim in search of the
universal cosmic hump. thailand and singapore being my favorite hunting grounds, i did monger in indonesian (having worked in e. timor) and on occassion ran up to "civilization" ie yogyakarta and jakarta for carnal persuits (bali is great for drunken japanese tourist girls). however, having just missed having my hide scorched by islamic militants (ala jamaya islameel) in yogyakarta who were on some sort of "lets burn down the bars where the white men hump our women" campaign, i decided i would persue poon in safer environs such as the pi.

the main point i am trying to make is despite what the us embassy (an other nations) caution on "travel warnings" and "dont go there's" the phils is still much safer and more monger friendly compared with indonesia where various
14th century thinking potentates just might declare fatwah's again should they see too many white guys humping brown skinned women. trust me on this one, the indo is a more hostile environment to westerners and is gonna get worse.

then there is the communication thing, you have probably experienced this in the various countries you visited, yeah you can always get the message across, point to her mouth, your dick and ask how much, they all understand that, but the filipina is better "english" articulate than her scarlet sisters in various countries, this means you will be able to have a rudimentary conversation that contributes to the gfe that we all like, where as i find the thai more mercenary and the viets totally cold.

you can easily keep your expenses down in your budget range, spamhogs help[ful hint says find a local honey who can help you get to point a from point b on a shoestring budget, find the right one and you can save a bundle letting her do the negotiation with van drivers etc.

good luck

spamhog

Fastpiston
04-12-07, 13:24
[QUOTE=Pute Nut]Hmmm...Rey Langit may have a contradictory opinion on that...

As for malaria prevention, one doxy a day might work.

Dengue is a problem, true. But if you're otherwise healthy you will (most likely) survive. I think it's said that one in about 200.000 mosqitoes carry Dengue in PI. Count your bites ;)[/QUOTE

Risk exists in areas below 600 meters (1,969 feet). No risk in the provinces of Aklan, Bilaran, Bohol, Camiguin, Capiz, Catanduanes, Cebu, Guimaras, Iloilo, Leyte, Masbate, northern Samar, Sequijor, and metropolitan Manila. No risk in urban areas. Basically keep away from rural N.E. Luzon, Palawan and Mindinao.

Steve Dunstone
04-14-07, 12:11
Things are getting riskier all the time - see article in full below:

Sex disease turns into a 'superbug'

* A correspondent in Atlanta
* April 14, 2007

HEALTH officials in the US have recommended nationwide use of a new drug to treat gonorrhoea because the sexually transmitted disease, now considered a superbug, is steadily becoming resistant to the long-time standard antibiotic.

The disease has grown increasingly resistant to fluoroquinolones, the most common treatment for the bacterial disease since the early 1990s.

The US federal Centres for Disease Control and Prevention recommended yesterday that a different class of antibiotics, cephalosporins, be used instead.

"Gonorrhoea has now joined the list of superbugs for which treatment options have become dangerously few," Infectious Disease Society of America president Henry Masur said.

"To make a bad problem even worse, we're also seeing a decline in the development of new antibiotics to treat these infections."

The CDC made the recommendation after discovering that nearly 7 per cent of gonorrhoea cases among heterosexual men in a survey of 26 US cities last year had drug-resistant strains of the disease. In 2001, only about 0.6 per cent of gonorrhoea cases among heterosexual men were drug-resistant.

"That leaves us with a single class of highly effective antibiotics," said John Douglas, director of the CDC's division of STD prevention.

Other experts called the situation perilous.

It is the first time cephalosporins have been recommended to treat gonorrhoea for the entire US population, though the CDC recommended the antibiotics to treat drug-resistant gonorrhoea in California and Hawaii in2002.

In 2004, the CDC made the same recommendation to treat the bacterial infection among American men who had sex with men.

The new antibiotics included the generic drug ceftriaxone, also known under the brand name Rocephin, which must be injected and worked "very well", Dr Douglas said, although the drug was not commonly stocked in doctor's offices. Fluoroquinolones were more commonly available and easy to use because they could be taken orally in a single dose.

Ceftriaxone must be given as a shot and costs about $US20 ($24).

More than 700,000 people in the US caught gonorrhoea each year through sexual contact, the CDC said. It was the second most commonly reported infectious disease in the US.

The highest rates of infection were among sexually active teens, young adults and African-Americans. Because many people did not have obvious symptoms, they could unknowingly spread it to others.

Though treatable, gonorrhoea put people at greater risk of catching the AIDS virus, the CDC said. In women, it could cause pelvic inflammatory disease. In men, it could cause epididymitis, a condition of the testicles that could lead to infertility if untreated.

In the survey of 26 cities last year, Philadelphia had the highest percentage of drug-resistant cases, at almost 27per cent, followed by areas in California and Hawaii where health officials have long known about drug resistance.

A quarter of gonorrhoea cases among heterosexual men in Honolulu, San Diego and Orange County, California, were drug-resistant, followed by 22.5per cent of cases in San Francisco and 22 per cent in Long Beach, California. More than 15 per cent of cases in Miami were drug-resistant to the bacteria, the CDC said.

San Francisco's drug-resistant cases more than doubled between 2004 and last year, from 10.3 per cent to 22.5per cent. During the same period, Miami's cases spiked from 2.1 per cent to 15.3 per cent and Atlanta's climbed from 1per cent to 5.7per cent.

Consistent and proper use of condoms would stop the disease's spread, experts said.

AP

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Diver69
04-20-07, 21:44
I was just wondering how difficult it is to find the Plan "B" contraceptive pills (the morning after pill) in Manila or Cebu?

On my last trip, I had to bring my own from the home country, but am hoping to get them over there for my next trip.

Any idea?

Diver69
05-04-07, 01:30
Anyone with any idea on this?


I was just wondering how difficult it is to find the Plan "B" contraceptive pills (the morning after pill) in Manila or Cebu?

On my last trip, I had to bring my own from the home country, but am hoping to get them over there for my next trip.

Any idea?

Bumbo
05-04-07, 03:06
Is it true asia and europe has the latest style of cell phones and the US is the last to get the latest phone? If so is it cheaper to buy the coolest latest cell phone in phili? I'm planning to go back to phili sometime soon, I want 2MP camera video phone, speakerphone, with quad band, So would I save money buying a cell phone in phili vs usa? If phili is cheaper which phone you recommend that has good quality ect.

Thanks!

Babyface
05-10-07, 02:26
Does anybody know if that 24 hour pharmacy near Quickie Stomach on Makati Ave. In Makati still open? If not, does anybody know where else I can get some Viagra in Makati or Manila?

Darth Sushi
05-10-07, 18:06
Is it true asia and europe has the latest style of cell phones and the US is the last to get the latest phone? If so is it cheaper to buy the coolest latest cell phone in phili? I'm planning to go back to phili sometime soon, I want 2MP camera video phone, speakerphone, with quad band, So would I save money buying a cell phone in phili vs usa? If phili is cheaper which phone you recommend that has good quality ect.

Thanks! I think Malaysia tend to get new stuff before the P. I. Prices are cheaper because you don't have to buy a service contract. But it's not cheap enough to fly here just for a phone. Still, you can haggle. Best prices are from phones superseded by newer models. New models are always high. Be careful, some stores will remove accessories like headphones and substitute items with cheaper stuff like smaller memory cards. There are authorized dealers for certain brands like Nokia. I would advice to check them out 1st because they will tell you what to watch out and what for though their prices will be higher. Once you paid for it refunds are difficult to get. If you pay via credit card, you'll have some recourse. As for brand recommendations, just find one with the features and looks you like. I started with Nokia, switched to Moto for it's thinness than back to Nokia for the simple fact that I can enter multiple phone-numbers with one addressee which was not possible with my moto unless I enter his more than once in the adressbook. Also, make sure the phone you pick can be used in the USA ! Goodluck

Ekspat
05-11-07, 10:44
If so is it cheaper to buy the coolest latest cell phone in phili?
I usually don't go for the latest phones, but I think with the depreciating USD it's not worth it.
Cheers!

Bumbo
05-14-07, 02:23
I think Malaysia tend to get new stuff before the P. I. Prices are cheaper because you don't have to buy a service contract. But it's not cheap enough to fly here just for a phone. Still, you can haggle. Best prices are from phones superseded by newer models. New models are always high. Be careful, some stores will remove accessories like headphones and substitute items with cheaper stuff like smaller memory cards. There are authorized dealers for certain brands like Nokia. I would advice to check them out 1st because they will tell you what to watch out and what for though their prices will be higher. Once you paid for it refunds are difficult to get. If you pay via credit card, you'll have some recourse. As for brand recommendations, just find one with the features and looks you like. I started with Nokia, switched to Moto for it's thinness than back to Nokia for the simple fact that I can enter multiple phone-numbers with one addressee which was not possible with my moto unless I enter his more than once in the adressbook. Also, make sure the phone you pick can be used in the USA ! GoodluckI'm not going to phili just for the phone Lol! I'll be going back, once my wife to be visa is approved! I was wondering if they have LG phones? well anyways she will help me out to find better authorized dealer with lower price once I find the phone I like I will use her sim card to test the phone before I buy, The reason I want to get the phone in phili if I find good price on phone, I don't want to plan to sign up a new contract with my provider because I get a new phone from them.

Darth Sushi
05-14-07, 09:33
I'm not going to phili just for the phone Lol! I'll be going back, once my wife to be visa is approved! I was wondering if they have LG phones? well anyways she will help me out to find better authorized dealer with lower price once I find the phone I like I will use her sim card to test the phone before I buy, The reason I want to get the phone in phili if I find good price on phone, I don't want to plan to sign up a new contract with my provider because I get a new phone from them.Surprisingly, I haven't noticed a lot of LG phones (though lots of LG appliances are available), especially with the top of the line models. Nokia and Moto are commonplace. Sony-Erickson and Samsung will have a few models.

Nightrider1
06-14-07, 22:01
I will be headed to Phil in Sept for 40 days and would like to bring my new Dell laptop to use for e-mail and yahoo chat and not have to deal with the internet cafe scene. Does anyone know specifically what I will need to do once I am there in Cebu to get hooked up? I have heard both SMART and GLOBE have this service so maybe I would just need to take my laptop to the SM and go to their store? Do you get a load like a cell phone or is a long term contract necessary? Is it necessary to buy any hardware? It's not necessary to respond on the forum so a PM will do unless you feel the information would be helpful to more techno challeneged mongers like myself.
Thanks in advance

GoodEnough
06-15-07, 00:35
I will be headed to Phil in Sept for 40 days and would like to bring my new Dell laptop to use for e-mail and yahoo chat and not have to deal with the internet cafe scene. Does anyone know specifically what I will need to do once I am there in Cebu to get hooked up? I have heard both SMART and GLOBE have this service so maybe I would just need to take my laptop to the SM and go to their store? Do you get a load like a cell phone or is a long term contract necessary? Is it necessary to buy any hardware? It's not necessary to respond on the forum so a PM will do unless you feel the information would be helpful to more techno challeneged mongers like myself.
Thanks in advance

Just as you can buy cell phone cards at hundreds of locations, so can you purchase Internet cards in various denominations. Once you scratch off the back, you'll find a user name and a password. All that you need is a Wifi location, and you're in business. There are dozens of Wifi hotspots, including the Starbucks cafes, hotel lobbies and assorted other restaurants and coffee houses. If you're only going to be in country for a short time, there's no need to purchase a subscription.

Key Master
06-16-07, 04:53
I don't think that type of service is available where you can be anywhere and get internet wireless. Depending on your hotel you can buy minutes for their wireless network. It will be more expensive than what you can get at a cafe of course. I don't know if their are hotels like in AC where the service is free in Cebu.

GoodEnough
06-16-07, 06:28
I don't think that type of service is available where you can be anywhere and get internet wireless. Depending on your hotel you can buy minutes for their wireless network. It will be more expensive than what you can get at a cafe of course. I don't know if their are hotels like in AC where the service is free in Cebu.

As I said, it's available in all Starbucks Cafes, in many hotel lobbies, and in several restaurants; at least that's true in Davao, CDO, Zamboanga and Manila. The services available through hotels tend to be more expensive, though more and more hotels are offering the service. Wireless service is also widely available in several of the country's airports. I know this because I use the service frequently.

GE

Yankee 617
06-21-07, 04:14
what's in a laptop? court ponders legality of border searches

ryan singel 06.20.07 | 2:00 am

is your laptop a fancy piece of luggage or an extension of your mind? that's the central question facing a federal appeals court in a case that could sharply limit the government's ability to snoop into laptop computers carried across the border by american citizens.

the question, before the 9th u.s. circuit court of appeals, arose from the prosecution of michael timothy arnold, an american citizen whose laptop was randomly searched in july 2005 at los angeles international airport as he returned from a three-week trip to the philippines. agents booted the computer and began opening folders on the desktop, where they found a picture of two naked women, continued searching, then turned up what the government says is child pornography.

in june 2006, a judge from the u.s. district court for the central district of california threw out the evidence, finding that customs officials must have at least "reasonable suspicion" to begin prying into the contents of an electronic storage device, a decision the government is now appealing.

"electronic storage devices function as an extension of our own memory," judge dean pregerson wrote. "they are capable of storing our thoughts, ranging from the most whimsical to the most profound. therefore, government intrusions into the mind -- specifically those that would cause fear or apprehension in a reasonable person -- are no less deserving of fourth amendment scrutiny than intrusions that are physical in nature."

while it's not clear how many laptops are searched at the border each year, both business and recreational travelers are increasingly toting computers with them, complete with hard drives full of personal pictures, confidential corporate documents and revealing internet logs. an october 2006 survey of business travel executives revealed that some companies were rethinking rules on proprietary information being stored on traveling laptops, and 1 percent of the respondents reported they had, or knew someone who had, a laptop confirep001ed at the border.

the reach of such searches will likely widen as more and more people opt for smartphones, such as apple's upcoming iphone, which combine elements of traditional computers with the voice capabilities of a cell phone.

the california decision is the first to challenge that trend, and it makes laptops, and even usb memory sticks, very different from every other item brought across the border, including luggage, diaries, prescription drug bottles and sexual toys -- all of which customs and border agents have been allowed to search without cause for years under the "border exception" to the fourth amendment.

the government says the rationale behind that exception -- that border agents are responsible for protecting the safety of the nation and enforcing copyright and obscenity rules -- logically extends to laptops. "for constitutional purposes nothing distinguishes a computer from other closed containers used to store highly personal items," the department of justice argues in its appeal brief.

moreover, requiring government agents to have a reasonable suspicion before searching a laptop will invite smugglers and terrorists to hide contraband and evidence there, the government argues. "if allowed to stand, the district court's decision will seriously undermine the nation's vital interest in protecting its borders by removing the significant deterrent effect of suspicionless searches," reads the filing.

arnold's lawyers, kevin lahue and marilyn bednarski, disagree, arguing that it's not very difficult for law enforcement agents to come up with "reasonable suspicion."

"no ordinary traveler would expect their private files to be searched at the border without any reasonable justification," they told the appeals court. "the government's argument that a traveler can simply avoid exposure by leaving the laptop at home is an oversimplification of its function and role in daily life."

lahue has support from the association of corporate travel executives and the electronic frontier foundation. the two groups submitted a friend-of-the-court brief tuesday arguing that suspicionless searches of laptops are overly invasive, and that prior to the california ruling, the government had no limits on what it could do when it seizes a laptop and makes a copy of the hard drive.

already travelers have reported customs agents seizing laptops, making copies of the hard drive and returning the computers weeks later. that practice scares the travel execs' association and the eff, which argue that under the government's reasoning, border authorities could systematically copy all of the information contained on every laptop computer and cell phone that crosses the border, without any court oversight.

"a suspicionless unrestricted search of a laptop computer is simply electronic eavesdropping after the fact," the groups told the court. "(it) is distinguishable from the forbidden general searches of colonial times only by the technologies involved."

the case's outcome is far from clear-cut, according to lahue.
"a lot will depend on whether the court decides it's like searching a piece of luggage or like a body-cavity search," lahue told wired news. "a diary, even one that is labeled 'my secret sexual fantasies,' has always been fair game."

the government's reply brief is due june 26, and the case will likely be argued sometime in the fall.

source: http://www.wired.com/politics/law/news/2007/06/laptopsearches

MikeSaw
06-26-07, 14:53
I'll be in country for all of August, then back to work in South Korea (I'm an American in my mid-40's).

My main objective is to find a young(ish), attractive Pinay to marry and bring back to South Korea, where I'll finish up my work contract next March. Then back to the states to work (more than likely).

I don't care what her background is (bar girl, farm girl, etc. is OK). In fact, I prefer someone from a poorer, less sophisticated background - lower expectations, if you get my drift. Therefore, I have avoided chat rooms and the like.

What area, province, town or city would be best for my purposes? Any advice as to where I should concentrate?

Oh, by the way, I've visited AC and Boracay a few times in the past and always had a ball there.

Many thanks.

FireWalker
06-27-07, 19:17
My main objective is to find a young(ish), attractive Pinay to marry and bring back to South Korea, where I'll finish up my work contract next March. Then back to the states to work (more than likely).

I don't care what her background is (bar girl, farm girl, etc. is OK). In fact, I prefer someone from a poorer, less sophisticated background - lower expectations, if you get my drift. Therefore, I have avoided chat rooms and the like.




Don't assume that a girl from poor background is going to have lower expectations. If anything, you should look for a girl that knows you have to work hard for your money. Find one who works and has good work ethic, that will translate into the bedroom. Cebu is good place for wife material.

Nite_Runner
06-28-07, 22:08
Mike -

I live in ROK and have a Pinay wife as do many of my friends and your quoted timeline is quite short with respect to all that you will have to go through to get your bride to ROK, much less than the states... Would suggest that you look into the VISA and passport process first... My thing would be to try to find a chickie that already has a passport.

N_R


I'll be in country for all of August, then back to work in South Korea (I'm an American in my mid-40's).

My main objective is to find a young(ish), attractive Pinay to marry and bring back to South Korea, where I'll finish up my work contract next March. Then back to the states to work (more than likely).

I don't care what her background is (bar girl, farm girl, etc. is OK). In fact, I prefer someone from a poorer, less sophisticated background - lower expectations, if you get my drift. Therefore, I have avoided chat rooms and the like.

What area, province, town or city would be best for my purposes? Any advice as to where I should concentrate?

Oh, by the way, I've visited AC and Boracay a few times in the past and always had a ball there.

Many thanks.

Kim Chee Kane
07-06-07, 20:31
Aloha...

Just curious if there are any strict regulations about shipping adult entertainment and/or toys to PH. I hope someone can help me with this.

I want to send something to a friend of mine in PH. I have an address which her family works at a University.

Suggestions?

Thanks.

Ol Timer
07-07-07, 01:47
Mike,

It's gonna be a little difficult to do the marriage thing. You can't do it as easily as your post states. I don't know what the requirements are for Korea but if you're planning to bring her to the US you have to go through the process of getting her a K1 Visa and that takes quite a long time at the moment. Some basic requirements for the US:

You must be a US citizen
You and your fiance are legally free to marry (have proof of your divorce)
You knew your fiance in the previous 2 years
You have the intention to marry within 90 days of her coming to the US.

You can marry her there in the PI but getting her to Korea requires at the minimum a passport and then it will be conditional for her to travel and stay with you there. Coming to the US is even more strict, she will need to return to the PI and wait for her Visa application to be approved first then she will have an interview "if" she gets the approval from USCIS. You also need to have pics/video of you guys together, or some form of documentation showing you knew her.

Costs to bring her to the US run from application fees of $175 to up to $1500 for the full complete process. I recommend you get an attorney to handle everything for you, plus it will be much faster since they have the knowledge of the processes. I may be missing some minor things but those are the basics. Good luck!

Ol' Timer

FireWalker
07-07-07, 11:02
Aloha...

Just curious if there are any strict regulations about shipping adult entertainment and/or toys to PH. I hope someone can help me with this.

I want to send something to a friend of mine in PH. I have an address which her family works at a University.

Suggestions?

Thanks.
There is a company online there that has Adult toys, so you don't have to do that. Asia Toys

Tungsten Chef
07-08-07, 19:38
Any of you guys think immigration targets guys returning from Thailand or the Philippines cause they know both are sex tourist destinations. The 1st time I came back to Canada I never got the search and question thing. I was picked out of the crowd this time. I know they have to random check some of the people. I never had anything to hide, but the dude was really interested in my negatives(photos). There were a few pictures of my sweetie's young sister and her cousin that he kept asking about. I thought like, " FUCK OFF MAN, DON'T EVEN GO THERE". Absolutely nothing wrong with the pics, just normal shots of smiling kids.

I'm wondering now if I'll be searched every time I go. A 40ish male going solo, you think "profiling", the same way they profile Muslims. Anyone have any experiences with immigration on their return home?

Imperial521
07-09-07, 01:32
I am bringing my electric shaver and my cell phone recharger to the phillipines. Do I need a converter for the outlets? I am staying at the Apartelle if that makes any difference.

Sugoi
07-09-07, 03:13
I am bringing my electric shaver and my cell phone recharger to the phillipines. Do I need a converter for the outlets? I am staying at the Apartelle if that makes any difference.

Check your chargers. It is 220v here so if your phone charger says 100-240v (which it probably does), you don't need a transformer. If your electric shaver says 110v (which it probably does), you need a transformer for it. You can buy one at Ace Hardware or any hardware store for about 250-350 pesos.

Bill Buxton
07-09-07, 05:58
I am bringing my electric shaver and my cell phone recharger to the phillipines. Do I need a converter for the outlets? I am staying at the Apartelle if that makes any difference.Converter for outlets, and voltage. Go to any hardware at any mall they can fix you up cheep.

B.B.

Bill Buxton
07-09-07, 06:18
Any of you guys think immigration targets guys returning from Thailand or the Philippines cause they know both are sex tourist destinations. The 1st time I came back to Canada I never got the search and question thing. I was picked out of the crowd this time. I know they have to random check some of the people. I never had anything to hide, but the dude was really interested in my negatives(photos). There were a few pictures of my sweetie's young sister and her cousin that he kept asking about. I thought like, " FUCK OFF MAN, DON'T EVEN GO THERE". Absolutely nothing wrong with the pics, just normal shots of smiling kids.

I'm wondering now if I'll be searched every time I go. A 40ish male going solo, you think "profiling", the same way they profile Muslims. Anyone have any experiences with immigration on their return home?I think they ask questions but why would they bother you again? I think it's random and you got the luck of the draw.Canada I have been told is different than the states but I have also heard stories from guys from the U.S. I amself have never traveled anything but solo many times now and never had a problem.

If you look like an unmade bed you might attract attention but clean shaven and somewhat neet, I have never had a cross eye on any trip over or back.

B.B.

John Dust
07-09-07, 12:32
Any of you guys think immigration targets guys returning from Thailand or the Philippines cause they know both are sex tourist destinations. The 1st time I came back to Canada I never got the search and question thing. I was picked out of the crowd this time. I know they have to random check some of the people. I never had anything to hide, but the dude was really interested in my negatives(photos). There were a few pictures of my sweetie's young sister and her cousin that he kept asking about. I thought like, " FUCK OFF MAN, DON'T EVEN GO THERE". Absolutely nothing wrong with the pics, just normal shots of smiling kids.

full I'm wondering now if I'll be searched every time I go. A 40ish male going solo, you think "profiling", the same way they profile Muslims. Anyone have any experiences with immigration on their return home?

Yes, I think that you are correct; they are profiling. I was singled out from a full plane on a trip back from Singapore/Sumatra. Generally I'm not a very clued-in individual, and at first I was surprised that the woman agent was only interested in my digital camera. She wasn't interested in my luggage -only if I was carrying any more chips. I let her go through 250 snaps, mostly of repetitive jungle and beach scenery. When she asked if I travel alone, I growled back, "I always travel alone!" I wanted to add *****. Her only comment after she was through was "You took a lot of pictures." Pretty inane comment, but one can't afford to challenge these guys.

Of maybe 50 countries whose borders I've crossed over the years, only four have even looked in my luggage: Canada, New Zealand, Israel and the States.

What you really have to watch out for nowadays is that you declare all your cash upon entry. A fellow worker had his seized when he inadvertently forgot to declare an amount in travellers cheques just over $10,000. It took a visit to his MP and several months to get some, not all, of the money back. This guy is a meek working stiff, totally legitimate, returning from a family visit to SEA. They grilled him for three hours. He said they were "very rude."

Right now I'm searching for a friendlier police state in which to retire. Wish me luck.

Professor 1
07-09-07, 18:27
yes, i think that you are correct; they are profiling. . . .

of maybe 50 countries whose borders i've crossed over the years, only four have even looked in my luggage: canada, new zealand, israel and the states.

what you really have to watch out for nowadays is that you declare all your cash upon entry.on a return trip from costa rica, i got "light" questions from the border enforcement agent. she asked my purpose for visiting cr. i said, "to see a beautiful country, practice my spanish, and meet nice people." i volunteered that i took "lots" of pictures, and asked if she wanted to see all of them. it should only take a few hours. she declined with a wacked smile. generally, i do not take any pictures of little people, unless in a market scene or the like.

now, israel, i can understand. you should expect a full luggage search. i got one while in high school on a "sponsored trip" with my congressman as the patron.

with respect to the money. the u.s., and most countries, are very, very serious about moving large amount of currency over national borders. one should have a serious reason for having more than $10k in cash on yourself at any point in time. even local police will confirep001e such during a search, and you will need counsel to get it back.

Blunderer
07-10-07, 01:13
Chaps,

There are loads of books about or set in the bar scene in Thailand (No Money No Honey, Thai Private eye, Stephen Leather does a lot of good stuff etc) there is certainly 10s and probably hundreds of them. I've even read a book set in the various mongering areas of Singapore.

I've been searching for literature fictional or otherwise that explores the Philippino bar culture in a similar fashion and have been unable to find a single book.

Can anybody recommend any books/authors that I can search for? If there aren't any of these sorts of books for the Philippines, why do you think that would be the case?

Cheers,

Blunderer

Joe Island
07-10-07, 04:04
I've never read it but it's been in my favorites for awhile now. I was going to get it but never got around to it. So if you do get this book let everybody know if it's worth buying.

The authors name is " Amsterdam Rios " , HaHa great name!

Books called BARGIRLS, "BOOZE, SEX AND THE SINGLE MALE! Angeles City, Philippines"

Oh yea its a E-Book so no reading it in barns n nobles , darn

Bill Buxton
07-10-07, 06:45
yes, i think that you are correct; they are profiling. i was singled out from a full plane on a trip back from singapore/sumatra. generally i'm not a very clued-in individual, and at first i was surprised that the woman agent was only interested in my digital camera. she wasn't interested in my luggage -only if i was carrying any more chips. i let her go through 250 snaps, mostly of repetitive jungle and beach scenery. when she asked if i travel alone, i growled back, "i always travel alone!" i wanted to add *****. her only comment after she was through was "you took a lot of pictures." pretty inane comment, but one can't afford to challenge these guys.

of maybe 50 countries whose borders i've crossed over the years, only four have even looked in my luggage: canada, new zealand, israel and the states.

what you really have to watch out for nowadays is that you declare all your cash upon entry. a fellow worker had his seized when he inadvertently forgot to declare an amount in travellers cheques just over $10,000. it took a visit to his mp and several months to get some, not all, of the money back. this guy is a meek working stiff, totally legitimate, returning from a family visit to sea. they grilled him for three hours. he said they were "very rude."

right now i'm searching for a friendlier police state in which to retire. wish me luck.why would anyone carry over 10, 000 in cash on a vacation? and why when you know about the rules about the amount would you add yourself to that jackpot? like i have said before, think before you act. i never spent 10, 000 in less than 3-5 months with an extended stay here. things are cheeper here and where you gonna hide the cash or are you stupid enough to carry that much here or anywhere on the planet for that matter. the limit is 10, 000 and who needs that much cash? unless you are gonna set up shop for good here. get a wire trans or set up a bank account here and do it right. remember, everyone here needs cash and if they get the chance to seperate you from yours they will. you can get someone wasted here for less than 100. 00 dollars so what do you think they will do for a thousand or more?

laptops, cameras, and the like are checked on a regular basis by immigration and they should be. there is a large ammount of fucked up people here and all over the world today doing nasty things so get up to speed. whats the problem? if they want to check who cares unless you got something to hide! they have a job to do and if they did not do it here at home whereever what kind of shape would we be in then?

just make sure the stuff is in a restricted p[lace if you do not want them to see the pics you took. take out the card, add info to a disk i hopeyou don't think they will sit you down and check every disk they find. they on the other hand just might if they find a link to a reason off another source.

why push the buttons or give them a rope if you don't want to get held up.

b. b.

Blunderer
07-10-07, 12:05
Joe,

Thanks for that, unfortunately, I've hunted through that site ad naseum and cannot find a click here to buy type link. I left a message so we'll see what happens, but he must lose a lot of customers this way.

Anybody got any other books they can suggest?

I've emailed him on both of the addresses on the site, but one has been rejected due to a full mailbox. If anyone does work out a way to buy this, please let me know.

Hmmm.. I hacked up the source of one of his pages such that the paypal link works again, paid my $4.95 and was sent to the download page, but downloading the book leads to a 404/File not found.

Bummer $4.95 and nada to show for it.


I've never read it but it's been in my favorites for awhile now. I was going to get it but never got around to it. So if you do get this book let everybody know if it's worth buying.

The authors name is " Amsterdam Rios " , HaHa great name!

Books called BARGIRLS, "BOOZE, SEX AND THE SINGLE MALE! Angeles City, Philippines"

Oh yea its a E-Book so no reading it in barns n nobles , darn

John Dust
07-11-07, 07:59
why would anyone carry over 10, 000 in cash on a vacation? and why when you know about the rules about the amount would you add yourself to that jackpot? like i have said before, think before you act. i never spent 10, 000 in less than 3-5 months with an extended stay here. things are cheeper here and where you gonna hide the cash or are you stupid enough to carry that much here or anywhere on the planet for that matter. the limit is 10, 000 and who needs that much cash? unless you are gonna set up shop for good here. get a wire trans or set up a bank account here and do it right. remember, everyone here needs cash and if they get the chance to seperate you from yours they will. you can get someone wasted here for less than 100. 00 dollars so what do you think they will do for a thousand or more?

laptops, cameras, and the like are checked on a regular basis by immigration and they should be. there is a large ammount of fucked up people here and all over the world today doing nasty things so get up to speed. whats the problem? if they want to check who cares unless you got something to hide! they have a job to do and if they did not do it here at home whereever what kind of shape would we be in then?

just make sure the stuff is in a restricted p[lace if you do not want them to see the pics you took. take out the card, add info to a disk i hopeyou don't think they will sit you down and check every disk they find. they on the other hand just might if they find a link to a reason off another source.

why push the buttons or give them a rope if you don't want to get held up.

b. b.

well bill, the question asked was "are middle-aged single male travelers being profiled?" my answer was yes. i found my own experience surprising and especially annoying after being awake 50 hours or so. if they had searched every single one of the passengers, they would have found many undeclared or illegal products: expensive jewelry, electronic equipment, clothing, maybe even the odd banned animal product. this used to interest customs in the old days, i.e. they used to be interested in items; now they are only interested in information.

i for one, was oblivious to the law concerning declaration of cash in excess of $10,000. i'm sure that it's written down on some leaflet, but not considering myself a money-launderer, it just didn't register, just as it didn't with my co-worker. there never used to be "currency controls" in canada. it's kind of a joke because billions of dollars are laundered daily by the big banks for big profits, and no government seems too interested in these bad guys. the international system is set up for this.

it may surprise you that some people don't consider $10,000 a large vacation expenditure. the person mentioned was carrying t-cheques, not cash; he was visiting a rich sea country, not a poor one. apart from human and animal trafficking, there is nothing that customs should bother about.

personally, i don't carry cash, as credit cards are handier nowadays in most countries. as you pointed out, it saves a bit of worry.

bye

FireWalker
07-11-07, 09:47
I think that is odd, too. I thought the $10000 rule was in CASH.

Bill Buxton
07-11-07, 19:55
Well Bill, the question asked was "are middle-aged single male travelers being profiled?" My answer was yes. I found my own experience surprising and especially annoying after being awake 50 hours or so. If they had searched every single one of the passengers, they would have found many undeclared or illegal products: expensive jewelry, electronic equipment, clothing, maybe even the odd banned animal product. This used to interest Customs in the old days, i.e. they used to be interested in items; now they are only interested in information.

I for one, was oblivious to the law concerning declaration of cash in excess of $10,000. I'm sure that it's written down on some leaflet, but not considering myself a money-launderer, it just didn't register, just as it didn't with my co-worker. There never used to be "currency controls" in Canada. It's kind of a joke because billions of dollars are laundered daily by the big banks for big profits, and no government seems too interested in these bad guys. The international system is set up for this.

It may surprise you that some people don't consider $10,000 a large vacation expenditure. The person mentioned was carrying T-cheques, not cash; he was visiting a rich SEA country, not a poor one. Apart from human and animal trafficking, there is nothing that Customs should bother about.

Personally, I don't carry cash, as credit cards are handier nowadays in most countries. As you pointed out, it saves a bit of worry.

ByeSuprise what? They fucking tell you to declare your cash if it's more than 10, 000 on the plane! I am not thinking that ten grand is big jack, but why travel with that much or more cash?

At home I feel safer with the cash than I do there because the cops smell the cash they just might charge you with a bogus trumped up fine. I don't think any le I have ever met here would dare to seperate me from the green but who knows. With atm's all around I am sure that will never be a big thing for me to wonder about. And yes, changing cash here, is not my kinda thing to do on a regular basis. Never had a problem, could be I never will, but, why take chances over paper when plastic gets the job done just as easy. Again the trans fee is not that hard on the wallet. After all some guys never give a gal taxi or trike cash the next day say nothing about a tip.

Like I said before, "if you think 50 peso's is lots of money you have stayed here too long"

Could be they never bother me because who knows why? Mid fortys white clean cut travel alone most of the time. Stay several months at a time. Who knows why I sure have no answer for it. Could be I have an honest face, or only 6-8 jailhouse tats glowing off my upper body and head could be they don't check until you have 10 or more showing. Just another good luck story I can tell ha.

B. B.

Diet Cola
07-12-07, 05:38
Changing the subject slightly, in the past we have discussed outsourcing programming work on here before and setting up an outsourcing office in a PEZA. This got me thinking about how I could wangle myself a holiday to the Philippines and I have come up with ingenious idea of travelling there on the pretense of doing some computer training. Ideally I would like to attend a bootcamp where I can master advanced object oriented techniques and PHP frameworks but failing that, a shorter holiday with just a 4 or 5 day UML course would suffice.

Therefore has anyone ever travelled to the Philippines and been on this type of training course? The alternative is India but I am not really fan of that type of lady.

Blunderer
07-12-07, 20:36
Not sure about the Phils, but you could certainly find what you are looking for in Kuala Lumpur (where there are plenty of Philippinas, but no gogo scene) and I think I've seen something of the type in Bangkok as well.

If it were me, I'd bullshit, buy an O'Reilly, spend a couple of days playing on the laptop and have a bodgy certificate printed up when you get to the Phils.

You might want to give this crowd a ring, they have Zend course and whatnot so they may have OO stuff as well.

http://www.activelearning.ph/courses/221_php_training_philippines.html


Changing the subject slightly, in the past we have discussed outsourcing programming work on here before and setting up an outsourcing office in a PEZA. This got me thinking about how I could wangle myself a holiday to the Philippines and I have come up with ingenious idea of travelling there on the pretense of doing some computer training. Ideally I would like to attend a bootcamp where I can master advanced object oriented techniques and PHP frameworks but failing that, a shorter holiday with just a 4 or 5 day UML course would suffice.

Therefore has anyone ever travelled to the Philippines and been on this type of training course? The alternative is India but I am not really fan of that type of lady.

Blunderer
07-12-07, 20:46
Right, I have just finished reading this guy's ebook. He certainly seems to be a fan of AC!

First things first - does anybody know of any other adult books about the Phils?!

Essentially it reads much the same as a fairly lengthy field report. There's very little in there you wouldn't find here in a few minutes and there are a few photos that aren't brilliant.

That being said, I don't wanna bag the guy, he's obviously tried to get some notes together that would be useful to the first time visitor with some success.

It's probably worth the 5 bucks, but if you were to choose between that and a forum subscription, the latter would be a far better deal.

If you want a copy of the book, his website appears broken, but if you email him , I'm sure he'll get back to you telling you how to pay and will email a copy over... as I said, 5 bucks - you can't go too far wrong, but if you've been to AC before, you'd know everything in there already.

I think the rules prohibit me from posting his email address, so PM me for it or find it on his website.




I've never read it but it's been in my favorites for awhile now. I was going to get it but never got around to it. So if you do get this book let everybody know if it's worth buying.

The authors name is " Amsterdam Rios " , HaHa great name!

Books called BARGIRLS, "BOOZE, SEX AND THE SINGLE MALE! Angeles City, Philippines"

Oh yea its a E-Book so no reading it in barns n nobles , darn

FireWalker
07-12-07, 21:30
Changing the subject slightly, in the past we have discussed outsourcing programming work on here before and setting up an outsourcing office in a PEZA. This got me thinking about how I could wangle myself a holiday to the Philippines and I have come up with ingenious idea of travelling there on the pretense of doing some computer training. Ideally I would like to attend a bootcamp where I can master advanced object oriented techniques and PHP frameworks but failing that, a shorter holiday with just a 4 or 5 day UML course would suffice.

Therefore has anyone ever travelled to the Philippines and been on this type of training course? The alternative is India but I am not really fan of that type of lady.

Why not do the opposite and set up a training seminar in programming. You could offer "scholarships" to exceptionallly skilled young ladies there. If you found some talented undividuals you could set up that outsourcing company you talked about.

Luper Calia
07-12-07, 22:18
Changing the subject slightly, in the past we have discussed outsourcing programming work on here before and setting up an outsourcing office in a PEZA. This got me thinking about how I could wangle myself a holiday to the Philippines and I have come up with ingenious idea of travelling there on the pretense of doing some computer training. Ideally I would like to attend a bootcamp where I can master advanced object oriented techniques and PHP frameworks but failing that, a shorter holiday with just a 4 or 5 day UML course would suffice.

Therefore has anyone ever travelled to the Philippines and been on this type of training course? The alternative is India but I am not really fan of that type of lady.My 2 cents. Do not even think about India. You could find a course but will not find any extra curricular activities unless you are very lucky indeed. Going to the Phillipines is the right idea but I've no idea about courses. However, I'm off to set up my own training school as soon as I can raise the funds!

Aussiec
07-13-07, 01:29
I several months ago I e mailed Steven Yang who has published several books on his travels and "play" in Southeast Asia. He has a book that can be bought at Amazon called "Butterfly". It is great reading and really helped me alot when I first got started mongering. He did tell me he is writing a book about his travels and adventures in Philippines and some "tricks" of the trade as they say. The Book "Butterfly talks about how he had just finish his mongering in manila and heading to Cambodia and Thialand and ends with him back in Manila again. Stenen Yang is well knowledgeable and writes a column regularly in one of the Asian Adult magazine. Can not remember which one but his column title is Always noted on the cover of the magazine as Ying and Yang. Reports of travel in southeast asia.

Nightrider1
07-13-07, 12:46
Yes, I think that you are correct; they are profiling. I was singled out from a full plane on a trip back from Singapore/Sumatra. Generally I'm not a very clued-in individual, and at first I was surprised that the woman agent was only interested in my digital camera. She wasn't interested in my luggage -only if I was carrying any more chips. I let her go through 250 snaps, mostly of repetitive jungle and beach scenery. When she asked if I travel alone, I growled back, "I always travel alone!" I wanted to add *****. Her only comment after she was through was "You took a lot of pictures." Pretty inane comment, but one can't afford to challenge these guys.

Of maybe 50 countries whose borders I've crossed over the years, only four have even looked in my luggage: Canada, New Zealand, Israel and the States.

What you really have to watch out for nowadays is that you declare all your cash upon entry. A fellow worker had his seized when he inadvertently forgot to declare an amount in travellers cheques just over $10,000. It took a visit to his MP and several months to get some, not all, of the money back. This guy is a meek working stiff, totally legitimate, returning from a family visit to SEA. They grilled him for three hours. He said they were "very rude."

Right now I'm searching for a friendlier police state in which to retire. Wish me luck.

Yes I do believe they are profiling. I have never been stopped coming back from 8 trips to the Phil until my last one. I think the red flag was when I was asked how many times i have been there and do i have famlily there. I said no family in Phil and then the next question was why I have gone so many times do I have business there. After I answered no I just go for vacation I was told to go to the inspection area and wait. Soon 2 guys start going through my luggage but mostly interested in my digital camera pics. I had taken about 180 pics and they looked at all of them on the memory card. I asked them why I was picked for " special inspection" and they said it was all just random.. YA RIGHT..lol..

Saphire Tonic
07-15-07, 03:27
Hello,

Where do I begin?

I'm 24, I've been speaking with a girl from Cavite city for over a year that I met from cherry blossom. I'm finally going to meet her, but the thing is I need to make sure she doesn't know about me geeting some pinoytang.

So the first several days she doesn't know I'm going to be there. I need a tip from a pro of how to arrive back at MNL and appear to be coming off a flight meeting a beauty from the 'greeters area'? This would be greatly appreciated.

So I've booked a hotel at the Century Citadel, which I hear is very close to LA CAFE, which seems to be the spot to hang for a few nights.

Questions;

Do I need to bring a power outlet converter. I am coming from North America for. Cell phone charges, laptop charger, etc?

What are the requirements to rent a car? And what company do you suggest? I saw someone mention going up into the mountains and driving taking picturees, and I concur; this sounds excellent.

Where do you suggest a Western mid twenties to hang out during the day about Makati? Cool, hip places? Starbucks with internet?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Fastpiston
07-15-07, 08:18
Hello,

Where do I begin?

I'm 24, I've been speaking with a girl from Cavite city for over a year that I met from cherry blossom. I'm finally going to meet her, but the thing is I need to make sure she doesn't know about me geeting some pinoytang.

So the first several days she doesn't know I'm going to be there. I need a tip from a pro of how to arrive back at MNL and appear to be coming off a flight meeting a beauty from the 'greeters area'? This would be greatly appreciated.

So I've booked a hotel at the Century Citadel, which I hear is very close to LA CAFE, which seems to be the spot to hang for a few nights.

Questions;

Do I need to bring a power outlet converter. I am coming from North America for. Cell phone charges, laptop charger, etc?

What are the requirements to rent a car? And what company do you suggest? I saw someone mention going up into the mountains and driving taking picturees, and I concur; this sounds excellent.

Where do you suggest a Western mid twenties to hang out during the day about Makati? Cool, hip places? Starbucks with internet?

Thanks a lot in advance!

If you want to appear as a new arrival in Manila, I suggest you arrange to meet at the coffee shop in the NAIA airport (at left side of airport, arrivals area. Just say that it is a more civilized place to meet as one can sit down and relax there while waiting - just in case your flight is late.

Fastpiston
07-15-07, 08:24
If you want to appear as a new arrival in Manila, I suggest you arrange to meet at the coffee shop in the NAIA airport (at left side of airport, arrivals area. Just say that it is a more civilized place to meet as one can sit down and relax there while waiting - just in case your flight is late.
Sorry, mistyped - the coffee shop is inside the airport building, on extreme left side entrance of NAIA as you look at it, on DEPARTURES upper level. There is no coffee shop on arrivals level inside airport building. Just take a taxi to NAIA departures level. The coffee shop is open to non-flyers.

FireWalker
07-15-07, 11:20
Hello,

Where do I begin?

I'm 24, I've been speaking with a girl from Cavite city for over a year that I met from cherry blossom. I'm finally going to meet her, but the thing is I need to make sure she doesn't know about me geeting some pinoytang.

So the first several days she doesn't know I'm going to be there. I need a tip from a pro of how to arrive back at MNL and appear to be coming off a flight meeting a beauty from the 'greeters area'? This would be greatly appreciated.

So I've booked a hotel at the Century Citadel, which I hear is very close to LA CAFE, which seems to be the spot to hang for a few nights.

Questions;

Do I need to bring a power outlet converter. I am coming from North America for. Cell phone charges, laptop charger, etc?

What are the requirements to rent a car? And what company do you suggest? I saw someone mention going up into the mountains and driving taking picturees, and I concur; this sounds excellent.

Where do you suggest a Western mid twenties to hang out during the day about Makati? Cool, hip places? Starbucks with internet?

Thanks a lot in advance!


Number One: Do not even consider renting a car and driving yourself.

Number Two: Make sure you keep all your travel docs and passport at front desk. Filipinas are little detectives.

Number 3: Why aren't you coming up to Angeles City?

GoodEnough
07-15-07, 11:41
I think your plan is an excellent one, and you'll have a great time at LA Cafe. While you're there, don't forget to check out GPoint as well. It's about a ten minute walk from LA and sometimes it can be an excellent pick up spot.

I suggest that you don't bother with the whole airport subterfuge. It gets too complicated. Instead of doing that, when it's time to meet the CB lady, change hotels first. That way, there's no chance of an offhand remark that would suggest that you arrived earlier. Second, tell the girl to meet you at your new hotel, and just explain that the hotel offered you transportation from the airport and you, being new to Manila, didn't want to cope with the crowds and confusion at the airport. Or tell her you met a really nice guy on the plane who had a car and offered you a ride to the hotel.

As to your other questions, you don't need converters for the lap top or the cell phone as they will work on the current here. Most of the plugs are American style, but some are British, so you may want to bring some plug adapters to be safe.

Do not think about renting a car in Manila. For one thing, you won't have any idea of where you're going. For another, the driving behavior is much different here, and for still another, there's no place to park, ever. Just take taxis which are plentiful and cheap or, if you want to take a day trip, hire a car and driver, which any hotel can arrange for you.

During the day, try the Starbucks at Greenbelt 2. There's Wifi, and it's a terrific place to pick up ladies. Also, Starbucks is next door to Cafe Havana, which is a magnet for the hip crowd in the evening, and for ladies looking to find some new friends.

Have a great time.

GE

Blink157
07-15-07, 13:13
Hello,

Where do I begin?

I'm 24, I've been speaking with a girl from Cavite city for over a year that I met from cherry blossom. I'm finally going to meet her, but the thing is I need to make sure she doesn't know about me geeting some pinoytang.

So the first several days she doesn't know I'm going to be there. I need a tip from a pro of how to arrive back at MNL and appear to be coming off a flight meeting a beauty from the 'greeters area'? This would be greatly appreciated.

So I've booked a hotel at the Century Citadel, which I hear is very close to LA CAFE, which seems to be the spot to hang for a few nights.

Questions;

Do I need to bring a power outlet converter. I am coming from North America for. Cell phone charges, laptop charger, etc?

What are the requirements to rent a car? And what company do you suggest? I saw someone mention going up into the mountains and driving taking picturees, and I concur; this sounds excellent.

Where do you suggest a Western mid twenties to hang out during the day about Makati? Cool, hip places? Starbucks with internet?

Thanks a lot in advance!

Hi,
GE is right dont drive for urself and forget the airport bola2, meet your honey at ur hotel, change hotel if you want. If you got to know her from CB Im sure she also have somebody else meeting before or after you, no offense but I have my experiance and those gurls used to get bola or get dumped, they know the game also. Besides after one week in Manila you might see things different, many many many gurls there. I suggest you to visit also Angeles city, belive me in your age you will have a lot more fun, despite its cheaper there, better air, not that noisy like in a big city (even ermita is ok) and hotels are cheaper. You should go there. Im there the whole august, PM me and I can help you out with what I know.


Enjoy

Happy hunting!

Blink

Blunderer
07-15-07, 15:40
People,

I'm planning on taking an extended trip to the Phils next year and am currently engaged in heavy research.

I am wondering if anybody knows of anywhere with hang gliding instruction in The Philippines, any websites, companies, phone numbers etc? I've found some references to the fact that it can be done in Cebu, but can't find anything specific.

Many thanks,

Blunderer

Saphire Tonic
07-18-07, 03:05
I think your plan is an excellent one, and you'll have a great time at LA Cafe. While you're there, don't forget to check out GPoint as well. It's about a ten minute walk from LA and sometimes it can be an excellent pick up spot.

I suggest that you don't bother with the whole airport subterfuge. It gets too complicated. Instead of doing that, when it's time to meet the CB lady, change hotels first. That way, there's no chance of an offhand remark that would suggest that you arrived earlier. Second, tell the girl to meet you at your new hotel, and just explain that the hotel offered you transportation from the airport and you, being new to Manila, didn't want to cope with the crowds and confusion at the airport. Or tell her you met a really nice guy on the plane who had a car and offered you a ride to the hotel.

As to your other questions, you don't need converters for the lap top or the cell phone as they will work on the current here. Most of the plugs are American style, but some are British, so you may want to bring some plug adapters to be safe.

Do not think about renting a car in Manila. For one thing, you won't have any idea of where you're going. For another, the driving behavior is much different here, and for still another, there's no place to park, ever. Just take taxis which are plentiful and cheap or, if you want to take a day trip, hire a car and driver, which any hotel can arrange for you.

During the day, try the Starbucks at Greenbelt 2. There's Wifi, and it's a terrific place to pick up ladies. Also, Starbucks is next door to Cafe Havana, which is a magnet for the hip crowd in the evening, and for ladies looking to find some new friends.

Have a great time.

GEGents,

Thanks a lot for the feedback. This helps alot. Though I appreciate the candor, I'm willing to take the risk of doing the whole airport facade. I hear there is a 'greeters area' outside the airport where they all hang out. This is true right? I should be all set if that is the case. She already asked me a while back for flight details and such, so I've sent this to her already, and she's already got all her arrangements to get up to manila with her mom to meet me a the airport. So I'm screwed. Luckily the confirmation I sent her has my 'new' dates!

To be continued.

PS- Sounds like you guys have experience with CB? Tell me more about what you think goes on. And if you have had any experiences with these girls. Good / Bad?

Saphire Tonic
07-18-07, 03:07
Sorry, mistyped - the coffee shop is inside the airport building, on extreme left side entrance of NAIA as you look at it, on DEPARTURES upper level. There is no coffee shop on arrivals level inside airport building. Just take a taxi to NAIA departures level. The coffee shop is open to non-flyers.Oh I see-- so is there anyway whatsoever to get into the arrivals section?

Aussiec
07-18-07, 06:23
When you get to airport departure which is on the upper level you will need to head along side walkgoing left facing the terminal where peaple actually are checked first before actually going into the building. Just head down sidewalk until you hit stairs going down. Go down the stairs and you will then be in arrivals! Someone will ask you if you need help (airport security) Just tell them you made wrong turn and they will tell you that your in arrivals. If you been in airport there you will know where your at and where to go once you go down stairs. The bottom of Stairs are about 50 feet away beyond where you would meet the taxi stand where you meet your party that will be on other side of rode. Make sure you get to airport before she gets there though. I have done this 3 times and worked everytime. If you have question further ask!

Buko Max
07-18-07, 14:43
Oh I see-- so is there anyway whatsoever to get into the arrivals section?
Hello ST,

Welcome to the board! Yes there is a way to appear that you walked off a plane. This has worked for me a few times in the past. Here is what you do:

Get dropped off at the airport early (departure level) with your luggage of course. Staying outside, walk down to the end of the terminal building (left side as you face the building). Go down the stairs toward the arrival area. There may or may not be a policeman there. Tell him you are meeting someone who is flying in (if you are a westerner, there should be no problem) and if he refuses to let you pass, give him 100 pesos.

They will not let you in the terminal building but there is an area outside where ground transportation picks passengers up. This is before the fenced in area where the locals wait (parking lot). Have a seat at one of the benches there and set a spell. Then at the appropriate time, walk through the gate and your home free! Please report back and let us know how things worked out.

As far as CB goes, I have met about two dozen women from there and 90% have been very sweet and sincere. Although some of the women tend to stretch the truth in their profiles, this can work to your advantage.

GoodEnough
07-18-07, 18:05
ST, just a word of caution. The fact that she's bringing her mom is not necessarily great news. They may be expecting you to fete the entire family and you may wind up paying for two hotel rooms; one for yourself and one for mom and the lady who is meeting you. I'm not saying this is necessarily going to be the case, but based on the evidence of hundreds of other people, it could be.
GE

Desert Don
07-18-07, 19:25
I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?

Thanks,

Don

Buko Max
07-19-07, 00:28
I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?
Hello DD,

From the west coast you can fly LA > Honolulu > Guam > Manila with NWA and/or Continental but the second leg is close to 8 hours. PAL might have a similar route but I would never recommend anybody fly them. You might be SOL.

Blunderer
07-19-07, 02:41
That's an unfortunate problem.

I've a few suggestions for you:

1) If you have the time and cash, take a cruise that gets you to somewhere in the region, the fly.
2) Go see your Doctor, explain the problem and he'll give you some tablets to knock you out. A couple of temazapam can turn a 14 hour flight into a 4 hour flight.
3) Fly business/first the extra space (due to the lack of boxes of money around ;)) should help your symptoms.
4) Hypnotherapy/meditation could help you deal with your symptoms.
5) If you are really loaded, come in a private jet/yacht - hell, I'll fly over to wherever you are to keep you company if you do that :D


I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?

Thanks,

Don

FireWalker
07-19-07, 06:03
I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?

Thanks,

Don

So am I,but I still go. Sleep Deprivation is the only thing I use. Get up really early in morning and stay up till flight. When I am sleeping, it is a big world.

Philyam
07-19-07, 08:48
I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?

Thanks,

DonIf you can manage 7 hours. Los Angeles to Hawaii to Guam to Philippines. The longest leg is Hawaii to Guam about 7 hours. Continental does have an island hopper between Hawaii to Guam so that 7 can be broken up if you want.

Blink157
07-19-07, 09:55
I am somewhat claustaphobic and cannot fly 17 hours! The most I can do is 4-6 hours. Is there a way to hopscotch across Pacfic islands to get there? Like Hawaii, Tahiti, Fiji on to Indonesia ideas?

Thanks,

Don
Hi,
here is what you can do. get a seat near the emergency exit, or if not avaible (cause that are the most wanted seats) isle seat or row. so if u dont feel gud u can go to cr take ur pills or whatever u do whe u alone to relax.
Consult a doc and get urself some medicine, try before if it works.

Happy hunting!!

Blink

Blink157
07-19-07, 10:31
ST, just a word of caution. The fact that she's bringing her mom is not necessarily great news. They may be expecting you to fete the entire family and you may wind up paying for two hotel rooms; one for yourself and one for mom and the lady who is meeting you. I'm not saying this is necessarily going to be the case, but based on the evidence of hundreds of other people, it could be.
GE

Hi,
yes bringing the mom is alarm bell ring. Expect the unexpected LOL.

I suggest you forget the whole aiport set up. Im sure u do when you allread one week in Philippines LOL after you met tons of pretty gurls u dont worry bout that gurl so much any more, belive me.

I don tmeet any gurls I havent met before for airpirt pick up, cause aftr a 24 hours flight I need to adjust a bt, go to my hotel, freshing up and have a beer with my friend and have the FUN I LIKE!! Cause you neevr know what they up to. Filipinas think to have a gud time they bring their friends so u feel happy and enjoy, thats their wy of thinkin of havin fun and privacy. May way of thinkin havin fun , is get the gurl to my room and screw her :D.

Last time I met a gurl with her mom to pick me up started to pay 50 US for the "hired boyfren cabdriver" then we went to a place called the sigin cooks, bakla resto..stupid singing with gays...yeah that was the right thing I need after 24 hours flight heheehe. I pay again for them, they eat like they havent eaten since weeks. After one day I got bored with the gurl, other gurls were more hot and her mom allway s txt her to meet me up again to see also her husband cause her daughter is cherry...Thats another problem u have to consider, if she is innocent or she pretend to be innocent u in trouble.

Thats why I prefer to meet my dates in a place I like. anoher thing, dont wait for the gurls to met you up, some come late, some dont come at all and you there waisting ur time. And time is precious when you there.

So do your thing and txt the gurls or beter let them txt you. Meet them in a time here u dont monger, morning, lunch time etc. Evening is ur primetime, thats hwere u met up chicks or u already in ur hotel havin fun.

TRY Angeles CITY!! If you there, Im sure u give the airport thing a total miss and Im sure u even wont go back to Manila to met her up LOL.

If your first timer in PI you will see the real meaning of TRAFFIC :D.

So my advise for you, explore Manila for a night or 2, you find plenty of info where to go and where to stay budgetwise.
Then go to swagman hotel ermita and take fly the bus to Angels city. What to do there and where to stay also plenty of info on the board.

If you do this, you allways in control of things and not the gurls. for most of them ur a walking ATM, thats ok, cause most of the gurls for me are just for fun also. I treatthem gud and with respect, but if my bola2alert rings, Im off in a secound, cause time is money :D

I also will met gurls from sites. I met her with her auntie in mall of asia, one day after I arrive. Not been there yet so its agud thing. She is a stunner, thats why its ok to show up with her auntie. if she wants only shopping, I will disappear :D

Happy hunting!!

Blink

Sammon
07-19-07, 16:56
"just like you can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl"
I would add you can take the girl away from the family but cannot keep the family away from the girl.
1. It is a bad idea to meet the family if you not serious in settling in philippines.
2. It is bad enough the girl thinks of you as a walking , fucking ATM but the whole family thinking of you as an ATM is worse.
3. The whole cultural experience of meeting the local people is nothing to write home about.
4. The girls consider it a priviledge to tell their family everything about you like how much money you give her, presents you bought etc. They already know all this before you meet them.
5. Never ever socially bond with the family and if you do you will be sorry with all kinds of demands which i will leave it to your imagination.
6. your welfare is secondary as far as the girl is concerned.

Finrod
07-19-07, 22:28
I think that is odd, too. I thought the $10000 rule was in CASH.
The $10000 can be any combination of US currency, foreign currency, travelers checks, etc. It is legal to be carrying sums over $10k, they just want you to report it. That reporting information will be forwarded to the IRS for determination whether you owe taxes on it. Of course you should be prepared to explain it to both the Border people and to the IRS. But it's legal as long as you report it.

If you go to http://help.cbp.gov, you will see a list of common questions. Type "currency" into the search field to narrow the questions down, you will see that the first question that comes up is "How much currency / money / monetary instruments can I bring into the U.S.?"

Rent Filipinas
07-19-07, 23:12
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Tungsten Chef
07-20-07, 00:43
"just like you can take the girl out of the bar but you cannot take the bar out of the girl"

I would add you can take the girl away from the family but cannot keep the family away from the girl.

1. It is a bad idea to meet the family if you not serious in settling in philippines.

2. It is bad enough the girl thinks of you as a walking , fucking ATM but the whole family thinking of you as an ATM is worse.

3. The whole cultural experience of meeting the local people is nothing to write home about.

4. The girls consider it a priviledge to tell their family everything about you like how much money you give her, presents you bought etc. They already know all this before you meet them.

5. Never ever socially bond with the family and if you do you will be sorry with all kinds of demands which i will leave it to your imagination.

6. your welfare is secondary as far as the girl is concerned.Well this sure doesn't apply to me, unless it's in the future. I have 2 girlfriends in Phils, both in Mindanao. 1, I've known since 2002. The other I just visited in April, but have known her since December. Never yet have I had monetary demands made on me. Ate some bad food last trip and wound up in the hospital with amoeba. My honey was always by my side. Her mom and auntie would take turns staying over night also. They had to sleep on a lousy slab of wood.

If you're there just to "sleep around", it would be best to find girls who travel solo. We all know the younger 1's(well most of them) have chaperones. It's the Filapina way.

Blunderer
07-20-07, 03:19
If you go to http://help.cbp.gov, you will see a list of common questions.

Going waaaaay offtopic - sorry.

It is worth noting that if you click on that link directly, in the cbp.gov webserver logs, there will be a record of the fact that you went to their site from http://www.internationalsexguide.org

I am guessing with the way big brother is over there you might not want any government agency to know you were looking at this site.

For reference, this is a general rule, if website 1 has a link to website 2 and you click on that link, the guys who run website 2 will be able to see that you came to them from website 1.

The way around this is to copy the link, then paste it into your browser (thereby going to it directly rather than clicking on a link to get there).

Noman2
07-20-07, 06:00
I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for advice

FireWalker
07-20-07, 12:05
I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for advice

It depends. Look, don't take anything that you can't afford to lose. The KISS principle is in play at all times.

My suggestion is to not bring it at all, it is overkill. If you must bring, have it in safe unless you are using it.

Myself and 3 friends once did a night with 8 girls. Switching, fucking everywhere for 7 hours. We had cameras ready (Video and still), WHAT HAPPENDED? We totally forgot.

Aussiec
07-20-07, 12:10
Well would not be the wisest thing to do. Its bad enough that if your a white guy you already stand out in the crowd. Showing expensive camera just go by a t shirt that says rob me I am rich.

If you have any street smarts this is the country you want to use them. If you use common sense most likely nothing will ever happen to you. Just like anywhere else. If the area does not feel right, look right, or seem right then move on to a safer area. ALSO remeber Taxi drivers, police, and politicians here are the sometimes the biggest crooks. Better idea is get compact camera and put it in Front pocket.

Finrod
07-20-07, 18:32
Going waaaaay offtopic - sorry.

It is worth noting that if you click on that link directly, in the cbp.gov webserver logs, there will be a record of the fact that you went to their site from http://www.internationalsexguide.org

I am guessing with the way big brother is over there you might not want any government agency to know you were looking at this site.

For reference, this is a general rule, if website 1 has a link to website 2 and you click on that link, the guys who run website 2 will be able to see that you came to them from website 1.

The way around this is to copy the link, then paste it into your browser (thereby going to it directly rather than clicking on a link to get there).
Blunderer, your point is *very* well taken. Everyone should watch out for this. ISG converts links by default. For the newbies, the easy way to copy the link is to right click it, then "copy link location" in Firefox or something similar in Internet Explorer.

Dashing Don
07-21-07, 00:31
I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for advice


Yo Noman,

Thats a nice camera! Dont worry..I'll personally show you around and protect you. You'll be safe, never fear. Where you gonna be at? Lets meet. PM me with details.

Don

Noman2
07-21-07, 02:26
Yo Noman,

Thats a nice camera! Dont worry..I'll personally show you around and protect you. You'll be safe, never fear. Where you gonna be at? Lets meet. PM me with details.

DonI'm planning to be there between Oct10 and Oct19, but I'm not shure yet.

Amavida
07-21-07, 05:55
I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for adviceOstentatious displays of wealth invite trouble in any big city but most especially third world ones.

I have a Sony K800 cell phone which incorporates a 3.2 megapixel camera & xenon flash - more than enough for holiday snaps/mongering memories - and can be slipped out of sight into a pocket.

I live in the Phils half the year & have family here, none of us will advise you to tote around flashy expensive items in full public view.

C'Ya & happy memories

Blunderer
07-21-07, 17:09
Just to give another point of view, I've met many many people who have avoided bringing their expensive cameras to SE Asia for fear of theft, only to find they really regret not doing so.

What's the point of having a nice camera if you aren't going to use it when you most want high quality pictures. I rarely take pictures during day to day life, but (try) to take lots when wandering around - seems silly to have an expensive cam and only use it rarely.

Make sure you've got good travel insurance (which you'll want in case you are in a traffic accident or something anyway - touch wood) and the worst case is you'll be up for the excess, and, you be able to get a newer model :)

I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for advice

Sleepy Floyd
07-22-07, 00:20
Anybody know if this can be bought in PI w/o prescription and how much does it cost?

Noman2
07-22-07, 06:21
I already been in SE Asia a few times with this camera (Thailand, Malaysia, Cambodia) and no problem at all, even in Phnom Penh I was walking around with camera in my hand, and nobody bother me.

But thanx for advice.

Sansai
07-22-07, 13:13
Anybody know if this can be bought in PI w/o prescription and how much does it cost?You can buy over the counter at almost any pharmacy. Reckon on about p40 for a 500mg capsule.

Sagramore
07-22-07, 16:57
Sleepy Floyd,

I have never had a problem of walking up to a pharmacy counter and simply telling them what you want, as long as you have the cash they will sell.

Although, all of my pharmacy purchases have been in Angeles, I don't know if pharmacies are more strict about selling without prescription in other areas.

Cheers!

Member #2718
07-22-07, 21:54
Anybody know if this can be bought in PI w/o prescription and how much does it cost?

If you can spell it, you can buy it. Just fill in the scrap of paper at the counter of the local Mercury Drug with the name of the what you want, the dosage you want and number of tablets. The person behind the counter will handle the rest. I have never needed a doctors note for any antibiotic or pecker pill.

Essi
07-23-07, 09:49
Hi mate

Is antone know what is my risk if a girl sure that she is carring a baby from me. can I visit manila and meet her? can she do to me something????

I have no problem to support her when she will proove me thats its MY baby. but at the mean time can she go to court or something?

ESSI

Asheron
07-23-07, 21:19
Essi,

If someone files a dispute against you, they can prevent you leaving the country untill the problem has been resolved.

Which can take many months.

Essi
07-24-07, 00:21
Hi

thanks for your advice... I am not sure if I can trust her that I am the one.

But its better to be careful and not show up.... am I right?

ESSI

Robbaf
07-24-07, 02:00
I'm going to Philippines a first time, so my question is, how safety is Manila and AC to walking around with digital camera, not the small compact, but big Nikon D200.

Thanx for advice

I have been here three months and I have only have had one instance where two young teenage boys tried to get my wallet.

I walking down the sidewalk in Manila around 1600 and the boys came over and got on each side of me. The one on my left put his head against my chest, under my arm and his right hand in front of me asking for money. He was pushing me toward his friend on the right. He was pushing hard enough that he stuck his hand in my back pocket to get my wallet...SHOCK, it wasn't there and I felt it. I snap back and grabbed his arm and yell, "What the fuck are you doing!" he jumped like I shot him and two security guards came over and took him away. Everyone around was laughing so hard that I caught them.

Maintain your situation awareness and you will be fine.

Stay safe,
Robb

Blink157
07-24-07, 15:51
Hi

thanks for your advice... I am not sure if I can trust her that I am the one.

But its better to be careful and not show up.... am I right?

ESSI

Hi,
read ur posts and concerns.

This what I do: if I have barfined a gurl from bar I use condoms, comon sense, they might have another customer evry night and I don t like to get STD or any other things.

if that gurl stays with me for longer and I know her better I might run aids testing and then screw her without condom.

If I do that, she takes pills or I make sure my little friend is outside before he finish.

If I date normal gurls with job or colegue gurls I know longer I screw them without condoms, same I do with my gf I know longer and her family, but if I do I don tmake them prgnt.

So, as I read ur posts you dont know this gurl for sure neither met her family.

If she is a hooker, just stay in touch with emails, dont let her know you in PI, if she insists tellin you its ur chid, ask for proof. DNA testing can be done also in US, just ask her when the child is born for babys split ( no need to get blood frm the baby) and let it have send to your adress.

if you love the gurl ,meet her again, but be prepared to meet her family and get confronted with marriage etc etc etc.

Next time use condoms. I know not allways easy, you go out drink, get the gurl home,etc, but if Im talkin now to a matured guy not to an 18 year young guy you should know things better.

trust your instincts, if you smell trouble, walk away.


happy hunting

Blink

Fastpiston
07-25-07, 12:04
Sleepy Floyd,

I have never had a problem of walking up to a pharmacy counter and simply telling them what you want, as long as you have the cash they will sell.

Although, all of my pharmacy purchases have been in Angeles, I don't know if pharmacies are more strict about selling without prescription in other areas.

Cheers!

Mercury Drug will give you what you need.
Watsons, I guess because it is a Hong Kong company and has to play by the rules in the Phils., insist on a prescription.

Pute Nut
07-25-07, 15:05
Watsons, I guess because it is a Hong Kong company and has to play by the rules in the Phils., insist on a prescription.

Interestingly, Watsons Phils is a joint venture with SM Prime Holdings. That's why no other pharmacy is allowed to set up shop in the SM malls.

In addition to the country's number one, Mercury, runner-up Manson Drug will do just fine and is usually marginally cheaper. There is one right on Fields.

Andre007
07-25-07, 18:42
Very interesting comment because there is a Rose's and Mercury at SM Cebu.

Joe Island
07-25-07, 20:02
I've been looking for a company to charter a helicopter. I'm starting to think that this is not a usual request in PI. Still I want to see all these islands from the birds eye view.

Buko Max
07-26-07, 12:23
I've been looking for a company to charter a helicopter. I'm starting to think that this is not a usual request in PI. Still I want to see all these islands from the birds eye view.
You are probably better off hiring a small plane. What area are you interested in? There are only 9,000+ islands in the Philippines. I know of a pilot in AC if your interested.

Joe Island
07-28-07, 13:24
You are probably better off hiring a small plane. What area are you interested in? There are only 9,000+ islands in the Philippines. I know of a pilot in AC if your interested.Mattrick,

I don't have any specific plans yet. I'm in the process of making a itinerary. definitely going to put AC on my list to do for atleast for 3 days. This is my newbie trip so I will be doing some exploring of the major hot spots Manila,Makati,AC,etc. This forum has priceless information. I think Jackson should print a monthly magazine I would subscribe.

Anyway about the plane charter. Well I just want to get some info. on it first. I was assuming there was an established company with set prices and routes they fly. Come to think of it AC would give me the perfect operatunity to join the "Mile High Club" if I can find a girl to join me.

How much would a lady charge for a session in a plane?

Saphire Tonic
07-29-07, 05:27
You are the man! Thank you!


When you get to airport departure which is on the upper level you will need to head along side walkgoing left facing the terminal where peaple actually are checked first before actually going into the building. Just head down sidewalk until you hit stairs going down. Go down the stairs and you will then be in arrivals! Someone will ask you if you need help (airport security) Just tell them you made wrong turn and they will tell you that your in arrivals. If you been in airport there you will know where your at and where to go once you go down stairs. The bottom of Stairs are about 50 feet away beyond where you would meet the taxi stand where you meet your party that will be on other side of rode. Make sure you get to airport before she gets there though. I have done this 3 times and worked everytime. If you have question further ask!

Saphire Tonic
07-29-07, 05:29
Haha Thanks for the tip, but if thats the case, I will sleep on the floor and let them take the beds.. the mom, sister and my girl. I will say I really want to feel comfortable with my new family, let's stay together!


ST, just a word of caution. The fact that she's bringing her mom is not necessarily great news. They may be expecting you to fete the entire family and you may wind up paying for two hotel rooms; one for yourself and one for mom and the lady who is meeting you. I'm not saying this is necessarily going to be the case, but based on the evidence of hundreds of other people, it could be.

GE

Unknown9398
08-07-07, 14:01
Lots of guys here say they've withdrawn cash from ATMs in AC.

I have a Bank of America/Visa check card that's compatible with Interlink, Plus and Star. Will I be able to use it in AC?

Robbaf
08-07-07, 22:15
Lots of guys here say they've withdrawn cash from ATMs in AC. I have a Bank of America/Visa check card that's compatible with Interlink, Plus and Star. Will I be able to use it in AC?

Not trying to be rude, but RTFF. If you go the Angeles page and RTFF you would have already known the answer. Plus, if you are going to Angeles, if I were you, I would have already read Everything on that forum to ensure that I was ready as I could be.

Have a safe trip and thanks for flying ISG.

Robb

Unknown9398
08-08-07, 04:04
Robbaf. Every time I use the search function, I receive a message that the server is being backed up. This happens *every* time I try to search, regardless of time of day or night. I assure you that I do RTFF and ask questions only when necessary.

I do my homework before I go anywhere, so thanks for the advice. But if I need a new mommy, I'll let you know.

X Man
08-08-07, 05:10
Wow, is Robbaf having a bad day? It happens to all of us.

I'm not sure what a "visa check card" is, but a standard VISA card / bank card can be used at the ATMs -- I'm pretty sure both Plus and STAR are represented in the Philippines.

Always have a backup. For example take cash and a backup card. The pickpockets are most prevelant on the jeepneys and also SM -- apparently they use a crowding /distraction technique at SM mall.

X Man


Lots of guys here say they've withdrawn cash from ATMs in AC.

I have a Bank of America/Visa check card that's compatible with Interlink, Plus and Star. Will I be able to use it in AC?

Unknown9398
08-08-07, 11:36
Thanks, Xman. "Check card" is just another term for ATM card.

Robbaf
08-18-07, 12:36
Does anyone know where I can buy some Black and Milds here in the Philippines?

Thanks
Robb

Tungsten Chef
08-19-07, 04:07
My sweety's been told we have to go to Manila embassy and get proof that I have never been married. I said, "I doubt it". Anyone know if this is true?? The documents should come from your own country, not from Phils or is it just another cash grab. Thanks for any/ all replies.

Robbaf
08-19-07, 08:45
My sweety's been told we have to go to Manila embassy and get proof that I have never been married. I said, "I doubt it". Anyone know if this is true?? The documents should come from your own country, not from Phils or is it just another cash grab. Thanks for any/ all replies.

When I married a Filipina I had to show proof, as in my divorce papers, that I was single. I married in Japan, but had to produce the papers to register the marriage in the Philippine Embassy.

Good Luck
Robb

Tungsten Chef
08-20-07, 03:35
When I married a Filipina I had to show proof, as in my divorce papers, that I was single. I married in Japan, but had to produce the papers to register the marriage in the Philippine Embassy.

Good Luck

RobbOk, I checked out a site and it had a few more things to add. Need to go to a marriage or family seminar first. Also the registration process, it says takes 10 days to get the license. Man isn't there an easier way? It's gonna eat up lots of time.

GoodEnough
08-20-07, 06:39
The easiest way to get married here is to grab your prospective bride and get yourself to another country in ASEAN for which she does not need a visa. This is true for two reasons: (1) there's altogether less bullshit about the process of getting married and, most importantly (2) there's no divorce in the Philippines, which means you are fucked for life. Sure, if the marriage does not work out, you can buy an annulment, but that's gonna cost you $1,000 or so and takes a lot of time. Better to avoid the entire thing and go to Singapore for a civil ceremony on which the Catholic church cannot get its fingerprints.

You can always register your marriage, regardless of where it was performed, at the US Embassy. It's a simple process. I strongly recommend to guys thinking of having the actual ceremony performed here to think several times about it and then, if you're still committed to it, seek intensive psychological counseling.

GE

X Man
08-20-07, 14:38
Sounds like great information, but if you were in a foreign country other than Philippines, I imagine you'd have to deal with a language other than English. Any specific country recommendation? I guess the obvious place would be Thailand.

Probably not a good idea to tell your lady that you don't want to get married in the Philippines because you want the option of divorce. Just stating the obvious....

Nevertheless, sounds like good strategy. And thanks for the chuckle at the end.

X Man



The easiest way to get married here is to grab your prospective bride and get yourself to another country in ASEAN for which she does not need a visa. This is true for two reasons: (1) there's altogether less bullshit about the process of getting married and, most importantly (2) there's no divorce in the Philippines, which means you are fucked for life. Sure, if the marriage does not work out, you can buy an annulment, but that's gonna cost you $1,000 or so and takes a lot of time. Better to avoid the entire thing and go to Singapore for a civil ceremony on which the Catholic church cannot get its fingerprints.

You can always register your marriage, regardless of where it was performed, at the US Embassy. It's a simple process. I strongly recommend to guys thinking of having the actual ceremony performed here to think several times about it and then, if you're still committed to it, seek intensive psychological counseling.

GE

Ol Timer
08-20-07, 19:00
GE,

Are you speaking from experience or just providing information that you have gained through others? I often hear you speak of your lady in your posts as your "wife" and then other times its your "gf". Did you get married there in the PI or go somewhere else? Or maybe you're not married at all?

Also, if you register the marriage through the US Embassy does one still need to go through the process of getting a visa to bring her to the US?

Just curious.

Ol Timer

Tungsten Chef
08-20-07, 22:56
The easiest way to get married here is to grab your prospective bride and get yourself to another country in ASEAN for which she does not need a visa. This is true for two reasons: (1) there's altogether less bullshit about the process of getting married and, most importantly (2) there's no divorce in the Philippines, which means you are fucked for life. Sure, if the marriage does not work out, you can buy an annulment, but that's gonna cost you $1,000 or so and takes a lot of time. Better to avoid the entire thing and go to Singapore for a civil ceremony on which the Catholic church cannot get its fingerprints.

You can always register your marriage, regardless of where it was performed, at the US Embassy. It's a simple process. I strongly recommend to guys thinking of having the actual ceremony performed here to think several times about it and then, if you're still committed to it, seek intensive psychological counseling.

GEOk I will opt for the counseling.

X Man
08-21-07, 00:58
I'm still thinking about this. If you are living in the Philippines and do things this way, you aren't recognized as married in the Philippines. Then, if you have children.... and then divorce....well, it could get complicated.

And, why are you "fkd for life"? You mean that you could never marry a 2nd Filipina? When I was in the US Navy, some of the Filipino guys had a wife in the US and a "wife" in the Philippines. That was a long time ago and I'm not sure if the Philippine marriage was "on the books".

Anyway, I'm enjoying single life!

X Man


The easiest way to get married here is to grab your prospective bride and get yourself to another country in ASEAN for which she does not need a visa. This is true for two reasons: (1) there's altogether less bullshit about the process of getting married and, most importantly (2) there's no divorce in the Philippines, which means you are fucked for life. Sure, if the marriage does not work out, you can buy an annulment, but that's gonna cost you $1,000 or so and takes a lot of time. Better to avoid the entire thing and go to Singapore for a civil ceremony on which the Catholic church cannot get its fingerprints.

You can always register your marriage, regardless of where it was performed, at the US Embassy. It's a simple process. I strongly recommend to guys thinking of having the actual ceremony performed here to think several times about it and then, if you're still committed to it, seek intensive psychological counseling.

GE

GoodEnough
08-23-07, 08:47
Actually, you are recognized as being married here; you're just not recognized by the church as having been married, but then, who cares? Do you honestly think that Filipinas who go to the US or elsewhere on Fiancee Visas and get married overseas are not recognized as married when they return with their husbands? I assure you that they are.

You're fucked for life if you marry here because you cannot get divorced....ever. Of course, you can go back to the States or elsewhere and get some sort of quickie divorce, but that will not be recognized here, so you can never marry a Filipina in country. Also, I strongly suspect (but I do not know for sure) that an in-country marriage carries more legal weight in the event of an eventual dispute with your spouse-for-life than a marriage performed outside of the country.

The risks of in-country marriage are not worth taking to me, and it's not something that I would ever do, but that's just one person's opinion and others may not share it.

GE

Grt2928
08-23-07, 19:05
You're fucked for life if you marry here because you cannot get divorced....ever. Of course, you can go back to the States or elsewhere and get some sort of quickie divorce, but that will not be recognized here, so you can never marry a Filipina in country.If a Filipina marries a foreigner in another country but the foreigner (not the Filipina) subsequently obtains a divorce in that country, the divorce WILL be recognized in the Philippines, and the woman WILL be free to remarry, whether in the Philippines or elsewhere.

Wander Luster
08-24-07, 03:09
I know this kind of question has been asked in one form or another, but i just feel STUCK and in disbelief that the answer has to be so difficult.

I want a girlfriend from the Phils to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want her sister or friend to come along as well.

She worked in a bar and is doing nothing now (I know....be cynical...ok, she's fucking guys right and left and is for sure a no good lieing ***** that is taking advantage of me (-: )

So, the fact that she can show no consecutive employment is a strike against her getting a visa. Even if she were working in a bar for 12 straight moinths, would that help? If she could put on the application she worked or "Papion" and say it is a "restaurant"?

Then she has to have a ton of money in her bank account to get this visa. No, I don't trust her with 1000s, so I don't want to give her access to 1000s of USD in an acct. I could go to the Phils and fly with her or we could fly seperate.

Then....she can stay for, what 60 days MAX with all extensions?

Bottom line is I read that one should just FORGET bringing a girl over on a tourist visa. Could it really be that bad?

I own a "LLC" company in the US. Would it be a better route to try to apply for the most limited work visa possible? This company has no employees in usa, just me, and her skills? ....well they are indeed very SPECIALIZED and DIFFICULT TO FIND in the US, but not quite what us imigration has in mind i think.

How the hell do I get her over here? I was looking at these "sugar daddy" websites and all these girls want $5000 to spend a couple days a week with you + be showered with gifts. I want a live in situation like I can have in the Phils! In a world of outsourcing this should be possible!

Cebu Steve
08-24-07, 03:55
Hey WL,
I sent you a PM. I've had the same idea to bring a Filipina over to the states on a tourist visa.

I tried it about 6 months ago, but she was denied. She had never worked in a bar, had no "negatives". From everything I've heard, getting a tourist visa for a young Filipina is nearly impossible. She needs to show a hefty bank balance at the minimum. The criteria is based on the applicants ties to their home country. If she doesn't own property and / or have a very high paying job and have a significant long term bank balance, she will most likely be denied.

If anyone has an alternative or an approach that would work, I'd also be interested.

The work visa idea sounds more promising to me, but I expect that would get complicated.

Good luck WL.

CS

Finrod
08-24-07, 05:17
I researched this too. Outside of the wealthy class, business owners with at least 700k pesos in the bank for at least a year stand the best chance of getting a tourist visa. For everyone else, it is virtually impossible as it is assumed the filipino is going to go TNT. The burden is on the filipino to prove otherwise, and the bar is set too high for most of them.

I got the 700k figure from someone I ran into who runs a visa service. That's over US$15k which is more than most filipinos will see in their lifetimes.

You can try looking into student visas if she has enough secondary education to qualify, but that requires getting admitted somewhere stateside. Or you could try finding a nurse for a gf: if she is bright enough to pass the exam, she may be able to get a visa for nursing job.

BigSmile
08-24-07, 09:33
I am in similar situation but live in the UK. My "girl" says I should come with her to the Visa service place as otherwise she will be denied. Anybody know the chances of her getting tourist visa to visit UK?

Captain America
08-24-07, 21:34
WL,
We've tried for many years to get my wife's sister(s) over here. but no dice.
From what I know it sounds like a fiance visa may be your best route.
Of course, that would only work for your girl, not all three of them.
;-(

Hesekiels
08-25-07, 00:00
... I want a girlfriend from the Phils to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want her sister or friend to come along as well ...

WL:

With all due respect, why do you wanna invite somebody from the Philippines? Wouldn't it be wiser (and more economical) to spend that money for your own trips to Manila?

Of course it is your money and your private decision, so no insult, just curiousity! However, I am eager to understand the reasons for such kind of charity, but I have to admit, until now without the slightest success! Maybe you can enlighten me?


Cheers - Hesekiels

Blunderer
08-25-07, 01:07
I am in similar situation but live in the UK. My "girl" says I should come with her to the Visa service place as otherwise she will be denied. Anybody know the chances of her getting tourist visa to visit UK?

It is a right pain in the arse!

A friend of mine wanted to bring her Thai boyfriend over to meet the parents etc a while back and it was a bloody nightmare. He had to provide all sorts of paperwork, financials, his father's will (to prove he would inherit some land) etc etc.

Further, my friend had to provide payslips for the last umpteen months from both herself and her mother.

After months (and her having to take a couple of trips out there to help out) the interview finally rolled round. The 2 of them walk in, are immediately separated and with no further preamble "Are you pregnant?"

Eventually (I seem to recall the whole process took at least 4 months) he was granted a 6 month tourist visa. The odd thing was, the embassy also gave him a letter and told him he had to present it to the BKK embassy within 3 months of departure or he'd never get a visa from them again - so effectively he wound up with a 3 month visa. I've no idea why the embassy took that approach.

Frankly, this could all be made a lot easier. They could have the current system, but have a fast track bond system - hand em £10k along with maybe a criminal records check or something and you are all good. You don't get your £10k back until she's left the country. I read Australia has a scheme like that somewhere, but only for family members.

Ah shite, just realized this is a Philippines thread and I've spouted off about the British embassy in Thailand. Don't worry, I am sure that the embassy in Manilla will expend considerable energies making sure that noone in there will be any happier than anyone in Bangkok.

Blunderer
08-25-07, 01:10
Wouldn't it be wiser (and more economical) to spend that money for your own trips to Manila?


I'd say the primary advantage is that you don't have to take any holidays from work. Most of us only get 4 weeks a year - 6 if you are lucky.

Wander Luster
08-25-07, 04:35
I'd say the primary advantage is that you don't have to take any holidays from work. Most of us only get 4 weeks a year - 6 if you are lucky.Hesekiels,

Blunderer is spot on. That's exactly why. And as for more than one girl, why not spread the wealth and help out another PH girl and a male friend of mine in the US who would also like the idea. I'm job hunting right now, and expect to soon take a job with THREE weeks vaca. Very normal vaca time or usa.

I had an interesting instant messaging chat with the former GM of my company in Cebu last night. She got some sort of short term Visa through the US company she works for in Manila and is going to the LA. Not a big company.

Interestingly, she told me that others from her office who are also college educated and in her words "look like models" were denied (she is only a 7 looks-wise).

She seemed to think it was her superior communication skils-- which she does have-- that got her past the US official. I got a laugh out of that. Also, don't know why "attractiveness" would HELP get a visa.

To me there's one thing that this very smart young woman overlooked: she's married with a PH husband also in a good job and 2 young kids. Her co-workers are SINGLE.

So, clearly they are worried about the risk if a SINGLE girl from phils going to usa.

Clearly, this is all not worth it I think!

I wonder if it's any different with tourist visa's for citizens of South American countries (a 25 year old live in girlfriend from Columbia is sounding very good right now). Or what about the Ukraine or Russia? My guess is that US will treat all girls coming from poor countries the same.

Oh, and I read a post on another site by a guy that had a girlfriend that was a student and from a non Western country and had FINISHED her US education time and still had time on her visa. Hmmmm, maybe I should hang out at a college with a lot of international students (some from Phils for example). Trouble is, most of those students are rich even though from poor country and don't need a helping hand from an American.

Cheers.

Hesekiels
08-25-07, 19:00
I'd say the primary advantage is that you don't have to take any holidays from work. Most of us only get 4 weeks a year - 6 if you are lucky.Yes, Blunderer, that's indeed a valid and convincing argument!

Cheers,

Hesekiels

Professional
08-26-07, 18:17
I will be in philippines in a couple of month so i am looking for a hotel to stay in. I have read alot about Pension Houses and hotels but what is the difference?

Thanks for all you help guys

X Man
08-27-07, 04:42
Good question and I'm not sure I have the right answer. I'd say the pensions are simpler, cheaper and more likely to NOT allow ladies of the night.

Some of the pensions in Cebu have a sign in the lobby that says no guests, but someone once asserted this is simply to avoid having a bunch of guys having a drinking party or card game late at night.

The pension in Malate, Manila that has a Starbucks next door is not girl friendly. This is unfortunate because it has a certain charm about it.

X Man


I will be in philippines in a couple of month so i am looking for a hotel to stay in. I have read alot about Pension Houses and hotels but what is the difference?

Thanks for all you help guys

Correspondent
08-27-07, 14:02
Sounds like great information, but if you were in a foreign country other than Philippines, I imagine you'd have to deal with a language other than English. Any specific country recommendation? I guess the obvious place would be Thailand.Singapore!

Professional
08-28-07, 05:00
Thank you!


Good question and I'm not sure I have the right answer. I'd say the pensions are simpler, cheaper and more likely to NOT allow ladies of the night.

Some of the pensions in Cebu have a sign in the lobby that says no guests, but someone once asserted this is simply to avoid having a bunch of guys having a drinking party or card game late at night.

The pension in Malate, Manila that has a Starbucks next door is not girl friendly. This is unfortunate because it has a certain charm about it.

X Man

Lookin
09-01-07, 16:08
Regarding procedures for getting her to the U.S., etc.

http://www.everlastinglove.com/visa.htm

Andre007
09-01-07, 16:35
Good question and I'm not sure I have the right answer. I'd say the pensions are simpler, cheaper and more likely to NOT allow ladies of the night.

Some of the pensions in Cebu have a sign in the lobby that says no guests, but someone once asserted this is simply to avoid having a bunch of guys having a drinking party or card game late at night.

The pension in Malate, Manila that has a Starbucks next door is not girl friendly. This is unfortunate because it has a certain charm about it.

X ManInteresting because I have stayed at Malate Pension house 2 x in the last year I did not have any problems with bringing ladies in or (girl friendly). My last stay there was December 06.

Wander Luster
09-08-07, 20:18
I will be in philippines in a couple of month so i am looking for a hotel to stay in. I have read alot about Pension Houses and hotels but what is the difference?

Thanks for all you help guys

If you try hard and REALLY want to save money you may be able to stay in an "upscale" boarding house. I know that the owner of the Sun Star owns one and a 30 year old highly educatate filapina friend of my stayed for a couple months.

Very tough to find discount on shourt term. 6 months is usually shortes.

One trick I learned is to check out some of the hotels near downtown (Colon). They will protect you like a prince and just don't walk around at night. I actually stayed at one near the famous streat near the basketball courts Z.... that was like $12 for a very clean, great room. Just take taxis...you'll save a lot from being uptown.

I have NEVER heard of ANY hotel or pension that would turn away a girl that is with you. MY MO is always to walk quickly past the reception while joking with the girl and she may as well be a friend..they don't know or care. I've stayed in at least 10 of the medium to inexpensive hotels in uptown. Brought girls back over 100 times.

Intransit
09-25-07, 06:01
Brothers,

Which country do you think offers the best combination of scuba diving and pussy? Thailand? Philippines? Indonesia? Elsewhere?

GoodEnough
09-25-07, 16:57
Brothers,

Which country do you think offers the best combination of scuba diving and pussy? Thailand? Philippines? Indonesia? Elsewhere?

All of the above, depending where you go in each country.

Buko Max
09-26-07, 00:36
If you want GFE and diving then definitely Philippines !

Joe Banana
09-26-07, 16:53
Best place I have found for both types of diving is Sabang, Mindoro, Philippines. It should show up on a search here.

SlimHoleDrill
09-29-07, 01:02
Best place I have found for both types of diving is Sabang, Mindoro, Philippines. It should show up on a search here.

Yeah, I agree, it is pretty awesome. Diving probably betting in Sulawesi, but better bring your own GF. Thailand, diving ok but long boat rides (Phuket). Bali is also a good possibility, but the diving is a bit of an expedition. Especially if you want the best which is quite far from the main tourist areas.

I would also be interested if others had some opinion.

Bud Leeeeeeee
10-06-07, 00:09
My friend wants to go to Thailand again. He has been 5 times already and I have never been. He is up for other trips. So here is the problem. I see sooo many cute pinay chicks at work I want to go try and talk him into going there plus I been dying to go to Vietnam which is another flight (how much from PI? ). He seems to think/talk like nothing compares to Pattaya and Na Na district and BKK again I have not been. Hell maybe I should go there. He talks of considering other places and would listen to other ideas. I will go anywhere but am steering towards PI. I really like the pics of the girls there and again here at work. I have looked and would Manila and then ANgeles CIty then maybe 3rd stop somewhere in PI compare like Cebu? Maybe throw in Vietnam even. I tell him of other adventures and he just keeps going back to how cheap it is in Thailand.

Can you all point me to a slam dunk trip? It would be nice to be around some beaches at least part of the trip. Part time p4p college girls would be what I am looking for. I like a tastey clam mmmmm.

What do you all think. I will keep reading. The OTHER AREAS reports look promising. Is there really p4p everywhere? Just have to look harder in some resort or sleepy areas?

I like the idea of speaking english too. Not looking forward to hotties eating crickets either. They do that in PI? LOL if you can help thanks.

Santa
10-06-07, 23:42
Hello Friends. I have a friend who wants to bring his Filapina to the US. After almost 2 years of trying to arrange a Fiance Visa, which for some reason has gone nowhere, he is now trying to get her a tourist visa. His story is this; she says she knows someone who is somehow connected to the US Emabassy, or has connections there. This agent can get her a tourist visa for $1200. She must also have $2000 in her bank account.

My friend has already been sending her money every month for the past two years, and now this.

I have already warned him that she might be scamming him and this could be another scam, but he says "I want to marry her, and how can I get her a visa if I don't trust her"?

My friend doesn't have much money and this has already been financially difficult for him.

He said he will marry her as soon as she arrives in the US and then she can stay. I told him I think she will have to leave when her visa expires.

Is it possible she can get a tourist visa for $1200? She is just another typical Filapina without a higher education or special skills.

Also, if she arrives in the US with ony a tourist visa, can he then marry her and somehow keep her in the US legally?

Please keep your replies polite and remember that my friend will be reading your answers.

Thanks.

Csun213
10-07-07, 00:09
Hello Friends. I have a friend who wants to bring his Filapina to the US. After almost 2 years of trying to arrange a Fiance Visa, which for some reason has gone nowhere, he is now trying to get her a tourist visa. His story is this; she says she knows someone who is somehow connected to the US Emabassy, or has connections there. This agent can get her a tourist visa for $1200. She must also have $2000 in her bank account.

My friend has already been sending her money every month for the past two years, and now this.

I have already warned him that she might be scamming him and this could be another scam, but he says "I want to marry her, and how can I get her a visa if I don't trust her"?

My friend doesn't have much money and this has already been financially difficult for him.

He said he will marry her as soon as she arrives in the US and then she can stay. I told him I think she will have to leave when her visa expires.

Is it possible she can get a tourist visa for $1200? She is just another typical Filapina without a higher education or special skills.

Also, if she arrives in the US with ony a tourist visa, can he then marry her and somehow keep her in the US legally?

Please keep your replies polite and remember that my friend will be reading your answers.

Thanks.

If the girl can get into the U.S. with a tourist Visa then she can stay if he marries her, this have done a lot including my my brother who brought his wife (She is from Taiwan) into the U.S. on a tourist Visa. The problem is that I think either she or somebody is scaming him. There is no way that you can buy a tourist visa for $1200. Philippine, Thailand and China are some of the most difficult countries to get tourist visa.

If she can not even get a finance visa then there is no way she can get a tourist visa.

Sorry for the bad news however if you friend is really serious about his girl, I think the best thing for him is to move to Philippines and stay with her for a year or so, make sure that he document everything (travel date, photos, phone records, expenses) and then apply for a finance visa again. This way, he will have a chance to really get to know her plus the chances of her getting a finance Visa will be increased.

E 7789
10-07-07, 01:05
Hey guys,

I may have missed this information but does anyone know how many cartons of cigarettes you can take out of the Phills and back to the good old USA?

King Dong
10-07-07, 01:56
Hello Friends. I have a friend who wants to bring his Filapina to the US... If he wants to marry her as soon as she arrives in the states, then why doesn't he already marry her in the PI? Wouldnt this give the woman an very easy and fast acces to a Visa?

Sammon
10-07-07, 03:54
I would say the best thing for your friend is to go to Manila and go the U.S. embassy and find out why she was refused fiance visa. It is better to know the situation first hand before sending money. While it is possible in many countries to get a tourist visa with the right connections paying total of more than $3000 does not sound right. If she was refused a fiance visa it will be extremely difficult to get a tourist visa.
It is possible that this girl probably does not want to marry your friend especially he professes to her he is not sound financially. Many PHI people know the hardship people they face in U.S if their partner does not have money. Believe me love can fall in and out very quickly. Even if the girl wants to marry your friend she knows she has to stay with him for 2 years before she is eligible for permanent residency. In other words she has to basically put up with him .
Having said that not all PHI girls are ready to jump to U.S. They are well aware of U.S. PHI is a english speaking country, unlike other non english speaking country girls, they know more about U.S than us.

King Dong
10-07-07, 04:59
Having said that not all PHI girls are ready to jump to U.S. They are well aware of U.S. PHI is a english speaking country, unlike other non english speaking country girls, they know more about U.S than us.Thank you very much for the insight into what many, some or most Philippinese seem to know. Sadly this knwoledge hasn't arrived everywhere yet. The social injustice works wonderful in the US. But the needed 2 years for the permanent residence doesn't sound so bad compared to my country (5 years and langauge and culture test). Does anybody know how other countrys fare in this comparison?

Frequent Flier
10-07-07, 06:04
If anyone is interested, Manny Paquiao won every round if you ask me. It was not the action round for round of the first fight, but when they did clash Paquiao won 98% of the clashes.

Even in the 11th when Paquiao was beating Barrera soundly and while the ref was separating them from a clinch Barrera, like a true warrior who knew he was losing, took the opportunity to hit Paquiao during the break with a hard hook to the head that landed square on the chin. The hit maybe surprised Paquiao more than anything and Barrera had a point taken away for his late hit. If Barrera still had any power it should have floored Paquiao, or maybe any other fighter. That Paquiao can take a punch.

Barrera certainly did not come to fight. Berrera's corner man, who is his brother, kept telling him between every round from round 1 - 6 that he was winning. Not sure what he was watching. Then started telling him to push the action in the later rounds. Something you could tell Barrera did not want to do.

The PAC MAN moves on to fight the next challenger. Paquiao did show much better boxing skills this fight, which shows the respect they had for Berrera's abilities, even though those abilities are fading or faded. This will surely help Pacquiao in the future as in the past he really was the best banger in the ring for every fight he won.

I should have used my Sling Blade device to allow you guys in the Philippines to watch the fight live via the Internet. You could have rented out an Internet cafe there and charged 100 peso per Filipino and service provided per Filipina who wanted to see the fight. Heck we could probably still do it now as I taped it on my digital video recorder.

FF

King Dong
10-07-07, 06:29
Heck we could probably still do it now as I taped it on my digital video recorder.

FFBoxing is THAT big in the PI?

GoodEnough
10-07-07, 07:47
Is it possible she can get a tourist visa for $1200? She is just another typical Filapina without a higher education or special skills.Thanks.
In my opinion, based on knowing many of the US Embassy people, I would say that this is absolutely impossible. The controls imposed on the granting of visas and the multiple checks by multiple people before a visa is granted mean that it's simply not feasible to influence the decision about whether or not to grant a visa. If your friend did not or cannot show sufficient financial strength to warrant the granting of a fiancee visa, it's doubtful that the situation will be any different in the case of a tourist visa. Remember that the US Embassy has instant Internet access to all of the credit reporting agencies in the US and can and does easily check on the financial viability of any proposed sponsor.

This request for $1,200 and an additional $2,000 in the bank sounds suspiciously like a scam to me, and I would encourage your friend to be very careful before complying with the request. Coming over here to marry the lady and then requesting a spousal visa offers no additional benefits since the same financial requirements apply. I do not believe that this story is going to have a happy ending unless or until US requirements become less stringent. He might want to consider sending her to school for training in health care or another profession considered vital by US Immigration officials and then having her apply for a work visa once she's completed training. There are lots of 6 and 12 month health care training programs available in the Philippines that would provide the lady with a credential.

GE

Santa
10-07-07, 08:16
find out why she was refused fiance visa. . If she was refused a fiance visa it will be extremely difficult to get a tourist visa.
.

She was not refused a fiancee visa because it never got that far.

My friend thinks it will be quicker and easier to get a tourist visa. The main question is this, how difficult is it for a young and single filapina to get a tourist visa into the USA?

Chevy 68
10-07-07, 08:30
When you are dealing with the embassy they will try to deny her a visa by telling your fiance that if she has tried drugs it will show up in her blood test. So if you have tried drugs write it down and be honest about it. This will disqualify her visa. Everything the medical doctor will ask her she must always say no. The doctor is trying to get her visa denied and is instructed to do this from the embassy. So even if she has passed the drug test she could still fail the Medical and this gives the embassy reason to deny which makes them happy. They are very crooked at this embassy. They lie all the time to get what they want. They will give misinformation etc. because they answer to no one.

GoodEnough
10-07-07, 09:33
And the answer is that it's almost impossible. Young filipinas, without substantial assets are typically not viewed as good risks by the Immigration officials and are considered likely to "disappear" when they get to the US. That's why sponsors with substantial assets are required and even then the granting of the visa is no sure thing.

Csun213
10-07-07, 16:23
She was not refused a fiancee visa because it never got that far.

My friend thinks it will be quicker and easier to get a tourist visa. The main question is this, how difficult is it for a young and single filapina to get a tourist visa into the USA?

Much, much more difficult to get a tourist visa than a fiancee visa.

Hesekiels
10-07-07, 16:43
Much, much more difficult to get a tourist visa than a fiancee visa.


... and both is nonsense anyway! I am always wondering why should one bring a pinay to our home countries? The much, much better deal is to save this money in order to spend it later for a great time in Angeles City.

And before I am getting grilled here, gentlemen, that's of course just MHO!


Cheers - Hesekiels

Cebu Steve
10-07-07, 17:32
Santa,
I have to agree with GE, he stated the chances of your friend getting a tourist visa for his girl more eloquently than I could. One point I have to clarify, there is no option of sponsorship for a tourist visa (this applies only to fiancee and spousal visas).

Tourist visa is almost impossible to get for a Filipina. I have tried it once myself and found it very frustrating. The criteria are simple. The girl has to have compelling reasons to return to the Philippines. This includes criteria like verifiable long term, high earning employment. Significant verifiable assets, especially real estate owned in the girls own name, high long term bank balances (can't just deposit $5000 in her account the week before the visa appointment).

GE also probably knows a lot more about the embassy employees and the process than I do. What I saw was that the interviewers are Americans (long term career State department employees). While a Filipino could easily be bribed for $1000, my view is it would take a lot more money to bribe one of these American staff. There are several steps and reviews in the process, too many chances that even if a bribe was passed, a red flag would cause the application to be rejected.

The purpose of a tourist visa is to allow someone to visit for a holiday, then return to their home country. Most Filipinas who apply for a tourist visa have no intention to return, and the embassy is keenly aware of this.

Is there a reason your friend initially was looking to do the fiancee visa and now wants to go a different route? If he really wants to bring the girl and to marry her, this is the fastest route.

Fiancee visa is not that difficult to obtain, if the relationship is real and is serious. The key criteria are reasonable and the timeframe, while a bit long is faster by far than the spousal visa.

1) Both parties must be eligible to marry (ie, either single or divorced/annulled).
2) The parties must have met in person within a reasonable time (I think it's within the past 2 years).
3) There must be a bonafide relationship and intent to marry. (Meaning, not just for a Green card).
4) The sponsor must have sufficient income to support his fiancee. Even with this, if the sponsor's income is below the requirement he can obtain a co-sponsor.

The timeframe for the fiancee visa approval does vary, but seems to be around 6 to 9 months from the first submission of application (provided all forms are in order). Note that from what I've read, it's more like 1 - 2 years for a spousal visa.

CS

Hesekiels
10-07-07, 18:15
The purpose of a tourist visa is to allow someone to visit for a holiday, then return to their home country. Most Filipinas who apply for a tourist visa have no intention to return, and the embassy is keenly aware of this.So very true! Folks, be honest, actually we cannot be thankful enough that our embassies protect mongers like us in a way like that! :)

Why? Simply answer the following questions:

1. Is your age 40 plus?
2. Are you rather homely, or even ugly?
3. Is your Filipina 22 years young and damn pretty?

If your answer is three times 'yes' then you have a fair chance that you will be ripped off earlier or later! Either you will be dumped when she has the American passport after a couple of years (spouse visa), or she disappears after 10 weeks, leaving her seat on the plane back to Manila empty (tourist visa).

Since the only target of any pinay is to stay in the promised land such a
result was/is undoubtfully more the rule than the exception. Again, I highly appreciate that our embassies save us from such a trouble. Or is there anybody here who likes to be abused? :)

IMHO, of course!

Cheers - Hesekiels

Finrod
10-07-07, 19:36
I researched this too. My findings correspond with GE's and Cebu Steve's. But I'll add my $0.02 that they haven't mentioned:

What I have heard is not only that business and/or real estate owners have the best chance, but also that they need at least 700,000 pesos in the bank for a long time (about US$15,500). And they need to show a long term history as a business and/or real estate owner. The slightest hint of BG/GRO work will kill the application.

With the average wage less than 10,000 pesos per month, the bar is set far too high for ordinary pinays to even think about it. Or their potential benefactor to do something about it. Sure, someone will say they know a fixer for this. Sorry to burst your bubble, it ain't happening. As mentioned below, too many eyes are going to see the application before it can get approved.

So a pinay's best chance of getting into the US is via fiance or work visa. Cebu Steve speaks of the fiance visa. I'll mention what I found about the work visa: the most easily available work visa is for nurses. But the really hard part is for the pinay (or pinoy) to satisfy the prerequisites of obtaining a nursing school degree and passing the exam. Here, there are not that many pinays who have high enough educational level, are smart enough and have enough money to make it that far. Which again leaves out your typical BG or village girl.

Santa
10-08-07, 04:40
Thanks for your excellent posts. If my friend does not learn from them, maybe other readers will.

Neon Noodle
10-09-07, 01:50
I was reading up on all the info here about tourist visas to U.S.. Is it any easier for Filipinas working over-seas, say in Hong Kong or Canada to obtain one?

I have a gf in Canada working under the Live in caregiver program there, shes been there about a year now. Shes in her 30's has 2 kids at home in the Phils and is separated or technically married still. Her passport is still Phils though and she has very little money saved. I also have another "friend" that wants to visit me here in U.S. as well and she is 36 single no kids. My guess is they are considered same until they have Permanent residence status in Canada in a few years time.

Or maybe I should move to Canada

Styles12
10-10-07, 03:04
I've actually did a search on this and I don't think anyone has asked this before.

Am I allowed to bring Viagra or generic viagra with me to the Philippines, will I be stopped at the airport? Do I need a prescription with me?

Robbaf
10-10-07, 09:34
Boxing is THAT big in the PI?
AFP silences guns for Pacquiao fight
By Marichu Villanueva
Sunday, October 7, 2007
Today, there is only one battle that matters.

The Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) is observing an “undeclared” nationwide ceasefire with all rebel groups to lead the Filipino nation in cheering for Manny Pacquiao in his World Boxing Council (WBC) International superfeatherweight title defense against Mexican boxer Marco Antonio Barrera in Las Vegas, Nevada.

AFP chief of staff Gen. Hermogenes Esperon Jr. has, in fact, opened to the public the AFP Theater in Camp Aguinaldo in Quezon City to accommodate the pay-per-view airing of the fight, the proceeds of which will go to a fund-raising campaign for the benefit of enlisted AFP personnel.

Esperon told The STAR yesterday that all AFP camps would observe the “unwritten SOMO” or suspension of military operations even for a brief period to enable troopers in camps all over the country to watch and root for Pacquiao, an Army reservist with the rank of duty sergeant.

“There is unwritten SOMO, undeclared SOMO to give way to the Pacquiao fight and to cheer for Pacquiao,” Esperon said.

But just the same, troops in the frontlines are under orders not to let their guard down.

Unlike before, most troops deployed in advance command posts, like the battalions, companies and platoons, including those in the far-flung mountains of Basilan and Sulu, already have their own television sets.

The AFP traditionally declares SOMO with communist insurgents during the observance of religious holidays to enable soldiers to spend these occasions with their families.

The AFP has an existing ceasefire agreement in Mindanao with the Moro Islamic Liberation Front (MILF) while the government is conducting peace negotiations with it.

Esperon pointed out that even rebels would surely watch the fight and cheer for Pacquiao in this boxing match that would be aired live via satellite on cable TV. GMA Channel 7 will also carry the fight live.

The AFP put up a wide screen for the Dream Cable TV at the air-conditioned AFP Theater, and those who wish to watch the bout without any commercial interruptions will have to pay P300.

Esperon said other military camps have their own cable TV systems where soldiers can watch the match with their families in the comforts of their homes.

Member #2718
10-11-07, 01:29
I've actually did a search on this and I don't think anyone has asked this before.

Am I allowed to bring Viagra or generic viagra with me to the Philippines, will I be stopped at the airport? Do I need a prescription with me?

Why bring it with you. You can find it it any Mercury Drug store, just ask at the counter and tell them which dosage (25, 50 or 100mg) you want and how many tablets.

FireWalker
10-11-07, 04:02
Why bring it with you. You can find it it any Mercury Drug store, just ask at the counter and tell them which dosage (25, 50 or 100mg) you want and how many tablets.

Pfizer doesn't make 50 or 100 mg dosages.

You can buy fake C that works just the same (I've used both) for really cheap in AC. One 20 mg pill in Mercury will set you back 1000 pesos, You can get 30 pills @ 50 mg. for 500 pesos in AC off the street.

FireWalker
10-11-07, 04:09
Note that from what I've read, it's more like 1 - 2 years for a spousal visa.

CS

I don't think so, it is probably only a few months longer than Fiancee Visa. It also starts the clock faster for being eligible to work in US and receiving her Provisional Visa. I've done it before by marrying over seas and it took about less than a year.

X Man
10-11-07, 13:44
I would appreciate a little more explanation on this topic. I've bought C at bars in AC and it worked fine. How do you know if it's "fake" or not? What do you mean by "fake"? Do you mean it's a generic version?

Is the stuff in the bars the same stuff as on the streets of AC?

I think I paid 3 or 400 for a box of 4 pills. Well, I thought it was money well spent since it every time I brushed up against the lucky lady, I sprang to attention.

X


Pfizer doesn't make 50 or 100 mg dosages.

You can buy fake C that works just the same (I've used both) for really cheap in AC. One 20 mg pill in Mercury will set you back 1000 pesos, You can get 30 pills @ 50 mg. for 500 pesos in AC off the street.

Luvulooongtime
10-11-07, 15:51
Listen up mongers. I always bring some blue steel or Cialis from the states when I cum to the PI. When you see the doc stateside for some other problem, just tell them you are going to visit PI and need some help for your junior. If you are fun about it the Doc will usually hook you up (give) you plenty. Be a cheap charlie and get free (and guaranteed genuine) pookie help from the PharmaCorps.

Luvulooongtime

Member #2718
10-13-07, 16:15
Pfizer doesn't make 50 or 100 mg dosages.


That would be news to Pfizer, check their website at www.pfizer.com and look up their product list for viagra.

Cialis on the other hand is in dosages of 5, 10 and 20 mg

Hesekiels
10-14-07, 10:41
Listen up mongers. I always bring some blue steel or Cialis from the states when I cum to the PI.


I do the same, but the more interesting question is: does the much cheaper stuff from the vendors in AC work as well? Some mates say 'yes', others say 'no'! Folks, is there a chemist around who can make a proper analysis in order to enlighten us? :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

Amavida
10-14-07, 13:42
I do the same, but the more interesting question is: does the much cheaper stuff from the vendors in AC work as well? Some mates say 'yes', others say 'no'! Folks, is there a chemist around who can make a proper analysis in order to enlighten us? :)


Cheers - Hesekiels

There is two kinds of cheap V + C on the street in the phils.

First type is generic version of the drug. This works exactly the same as the stuff you pay dearly for in your home country. Yes it works.
Second type is totally fake & contains nothing at all resembling an any active ingredient to treat erectile dysfunction.

How do you tell the difference?
Pot luck Im afraid...

I have never had the need to try any of this stuff before but my current crop of GF's are sorely testing my stamina so I may have to join the blue steel club soon he he. :-)
I'll post a road test on my next trip november 12 if I do.

Happy mongering
Amavida

Robbaf
10-14-07, 22:49
I was in EDSA last Monday and I was offered V and C in the bathroom of one of the clubs. He offered both for a 1000P each and I only wanted V and I got him down for 200P. I don't know if it was fake...but it worked great :cool: for my unexpected threesum. FR to follow soon :D

Hesekiels
10-14-07, 23:54
He offered both for a 1000P each and I only wanted V and I got him down for 200P. I don't know if it was fake...but it worked great

Robbaf:

200 pesos and it worked well, brother, that was indeed a great deal! Congrats!

Cheers - Hesekiels

GoodEnough
10-15-07, 06:31
Can't speak knowledgeably about AC, but the vendors on Burgos will, after about 2 minutes of bargaining, let you have either viagra or cialis for PhP200 per four pill box. One of the guys selling to stuff told me that it's all counterfeit from India, but that it's made according to the same formulas and specifications as the real thing. I'm not a laboratory chemist and I have no idea if this was bs or correct, but it does seem to work the same as the stuff sold in the pharmacies.
GE

X Man
10-15-07, 10:13
Some of the bars sell the stuff and it worked fine. I assumed the bar folk went to the pharmacy and got the real stuff, but now I'm thinking they are selling the same stuff that GE found on the streets.

One bar started at 500, and I got it down to 300. After reading GE's post I realize I have to bargain a little harder.

X


Can't speak knowledgeably about AC, but the vendors on Burgos will, after about 2 minutes of bargaining, let you have either viagra or cialis for PhP200 per four pill box. One of the guys selling to stuff told me that it's all counterfeit from India, but that it's made according to the same formulas and specifications as the real thing. I'm not a laboratory chemist and I have no idea if this was bs or correct, but it does seem to work the same as the stuff sold in the pharmacies.
GE

Elmerfud
10-15-07, 13:56
, I'm not a laboratory chemist and I have no idea if this was bs or correct, but it does seem to work the same as the stuff sold in the pharmacies.
GEI had bought some counterfeit C here in Canada, been told that it came from asia, was sold by pack of 100 in a plastic bag (baggies) I do not remember the price but it was probably around 150-200$ a lot cheaper that what you can buy at the pharmacy (50$ for a pack of 4) but it is not the same thing, it worked well as it give you a good erection, except the side effect where a bit more severe and I was feeling a bit stoned, took a few then throw the rest of it to garbage.

Montrose
10-16-07, 02:59
Why bring it with you. You can find it it any Mercury Drug store, just ask at the counter and tell them which dosage (25, 50 or 100mg) you want and how many tablets.Does Mercury Drug store have the reall v with the pfizer stamped logo? What is the cost of a doctor visit and a valid prescription for the med?

Speedo
10-16-07, 06:56
OK, this subject is a little off the beaten path, but I hope you guys can steer me in the right direction. :)

I have a long-hair fetish. Obviously, southeast Asia will be heaven, as most girls appear to average their long-hair length to at least mid-back.
But the ones I seek are ones with very long hair.

So, the questions: Any spottings of ladies fitting that description that come to immediate mind? And is there a place in southeast Asia I should be sure and visit that's not on my list for November (Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia, Singaore)?

Believe me, I've scoured the forums and the search engine -- the boolean search method or the brackets around "very long hair" don't seem to work for me.

Many thanks for any and all advice you guys can offer -- and the beers are on me!!

Genghois
10-18-07, 05:21
pet peeves time:


first: do some of you guys really believe that lifting some little filipina girl over your head is some sort of proof of your strength and manliness? believe me it isn't. any of us can do that. and if you think that the girl is impressed, think again. her thoughts are not "impressed", they're "annoyed" and "embarassed". although she probably won't voice those thoughts as some great beast heaves her skyward.

second: keep your shirts on guys. we don't come to the bars to see half naked men! i walked out of two bars on mango in cebu, last night, because of this. i have no problem with boisterousness and fun, we're all here to party. but the moment you make yourself the centre of attention, your ruining it for the rest of your comrades. and if you think that the girls are impressed, you have a great deal to learn about the sense of decorum and propriety of filipinas.

that's my rant for the day!

X Man
10-18-07, 11:39
you are spot on mr. g, but unfortunately you can't change the world. those you describe may have been too drunk. or, they may not care what other's think. some of them can't even read, so your post is going unnoticed...

my observations are that a good many of the westerners that make it to se asia are less than model citizens. i suppose i'm not either....although i like to think i've matured a lot since i was unleased at olongapo's adult disneyland way back in the early 80s.

x


pet peeves time:

first: do some of you guys really believe that lifting some little filipina girl over your head is some sort of proof of your strength and manliness? believe me it isn't. any of us can do that. and if you think that the girl is impressed, think again. her thoughts are not "impressed", they're "annoyed" and "embarassed". although she probably won't voice those thoughts as some great beast heaves her skyward.

second: keep your shirts on guys. we don't come to the bars to see half naked men! i walked out of two bars on mango in cebu, last night, because of this. i have no problem with boisterousness and fun, we're all here to party. but the moment you make yourself the centre of attention, your ruining it for the rest of your comrades. and if you think that the girls are impressed, you have a great deal to learn about the sense of decorum and propriety of filipinas.

that's my rant for the day!

Blunderer
10-18-07, 18:04
since I was unleased at Olongapo's adult disneyland way back in the early 80s


Unleased: Bargirl-ese for divorced



I know it was a typo, but a damned funny one given the context.

Acfreddie
10-19-07, 08:34
Does Mercury Drug store have the reall v with the pfizer stamped logo? What is the cost of a doctor visit and a valid prescription for the med?Yes Mercury drug store located inside the Robinsons mall does sell the real Viagra and also Cialis. The Viagra is imported usually from the U.K and the Cialis is usually imported from Australia.

A doc visit and prescription will usually run you less that P500 (and usually includes a full physical exam)

Eaglestar
10-19-07, 11:58
Be careful out there

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion

ES

TrickyRick
10-21-07, 15:53
I got the v from 2 different places one from mercury drugs near the g point i think. No doctor needed 500 pesos 25mg one pill. Then got the v from La cafe was in those gel types first time i saw that it worked. How everyones experience with the stuff sold on the street. Also la cafe was a better deal 3 pills for 500 pesos

Wander Luster
10-22-07, 04:02
I will retire young to the phils in the next 8 years.

An option to do that even earlier is to take a job , full or part time, at a good Uni as a prof. A woman that is going to be a prof said she's sure I could work at her Uni and there are other ex-pats there (she was 2nd in line to my GM when I ran a small IT company in phils) and it sounded like it's not too tough if you're from the west. All you need is a Masters, not Phd.

Some of you must know guys that do this. This would seem to be the ULTIMATE honey pot for attracting young beauties. Can't fuck the students, but their friends... (-:

In cebu i know for a fact that a lot of girls from the good universities go to the most scanky freelance/pimp run places from time to time to get extra for pay for college.

And the "culture" of ex-pat professors seems like it might be an enjoyable one.

Pay in Cebu was about P40,000K a month but the work sounds less then 40 hours a week. Harder work= a lot more pay....may also open biz opps.

Escape from the USA!

Hairy Wonder
10-22-07, 22:01
Be careful out there

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20071019/ap_on_re_as/philippines_explosion

ES

I was in the Glorietta mall when the bomb went off. Fortunately the 2 honeys escorting me had just guided me down a hallway away from the location of the explosion. One of them told me later that she was planning on taking me up to Fridays, and that it was right where the blast was. I guess there was somebody besides those 2 little honeys looking out for me! Funny thing was it didn't seem like what I would expect a bomb to sound like. Sounded like something very heavy had been dropped. I turned to go check it out when my honeys grabbed me and yelled "Run! It's a bomb!" I read online that the death count was up to 11 as of Monday afternoon.

I'm just glad I wasn't part of the statistics of the blast. It would have been hard to explain back at home, why I was in the Philippines in the first place.

Keep mongering, but beware!

H.W.

Robbaf
10-22-07, 22:17
One of them told me later that she was planning on taking me up to Fridays, and that it was right where the blast was.Sorry Hairy you are backwards. The bomb was on the other side (back) of the mall.

Stay Safe,
Robb

Luvulooongtime
10-22-07, 23:18
Gentlemen,

I was in Glorieta in 2003, 2004(cannot remember the year. LOL.) Mall with Filipinaheart young lady named M. Abu-whatever-sayeff bombed a bus on Valentines day next to the Mall. I was in the movie house with my young honey. When we came out (we did not hear the bomb, loud movie; )) we saw all the securtiy and I was concerned. Being from Mindinao, home of the muslim seperatists/freedom fighters/terrorists, M just shrugged her shoulders as if it was nothing! Just another day! I guess where she is from violence is not uncommon. So I took a hint from M and said whatever and kept partying.

P.S. M was a doll, screwed my brains out half a dozen times, no charge, no marriage plans. She had to stop seeing her because her sister threatened to cut off her college tuition if she continued to see me; )

P.S. P.S. Sometimes you can get a internet honey that just wants to fuck, so you get GFE and for free (well almost free, took M to movie and dinner, she would not even take taxi money! My cousins theorize she must be from wealthy family; )! I am flying to PI in December and will report my luck.

Luvuloongtime

X Man
10-23-07, 08:38
Honey, I'm sorry for not telling you earlier, but I'm part of the CIA's covert terrorism counter intelligence unit. I was there investigating the possiblilty of a bomb attack. If it was not for my work, hundreds more would have died. President Arroyo has invited me back to the Philippines next month to give me an award. I hope you understand.

Agent 69




I'm just glad I wasn't part of the statistics of the blast. It would have been hard to explain back at home, why I was in the Philippines in the first place.

Keep mongering, but beware!

H.W.

Fast Eddie 48
10-23-07, 21:28
Honey, I'm sorry for not telling you earlier, but I'm part of the CIA's covert terrorism counter intelligence unit. I was there investigating the possiblilty of a bomb attack. If it was not for my work, hundreds more would have died. President Arroyo has invited me back to the Philippines next month to give me an award. I hope you understand.

Agent 69To Agent 69

Don't make me laugh no one will believe that stories , the philippines government and Arroyo will never give the CIA or the US any credit they will take all the credit and only thing they know is to pocket USD and take bribe .

Fast eddie 48

Kalboman
10-24-07, 12:26
Good luck, but I don't think this is as easy as you've described. Professors in the PI make very little money compared to the U.S. and I think its pretty hard to get a job as a foreigner in the first place unless you're really in demand (but if you were, you'd probably be somewhere else that can afford to pay much more).


I will retire young to the phils in the next 8 years.

An option to do that even earlier is to take a job , full or part time, at a good Uni as a prof. A woman that is going to be a prof said she's sure I could work at her Uni and there are other ex-pats there (she was 2nd in line to my GM when I ran a small IT company in phils) and it sounded like it's not too tough if you're from the west. All you need is a Masters, not Phd.

Some of you must know guys that do this. This would seem to be the ULTIMATE honey pot for attracting young beauties. Can't fuck the students, but their friends... (-:

In cebu i know for a fact that a lot of girls from the good universities go to the most scanky freelance/pimp run places from time to time to get extra for pay for college.

And the "culture" of ex-pat professors seems like it might be an enjoyable one.

Pay in Cebu was about P40,000K a month but the work sounds less then 40 hours a week. Harder work= a lot more pay....may also open biz opps.

Escape from the USA!

X Man
10-24-07, 14:21
Is it just me or is something non sequitur about Fast Eddie's post?


To Agent 69

Don't make me laugh no one will believe that stories , the philippines government and Arroyo will never give the CIA or the US any credit they will take all the credit and only thing they know is to pocket USD and take bribe .

Fast eddie 48

The Wanderer
10-24-07, 16:37
Is it just me or is something non sequitur about Fast Eddie's post?

No not just you, unless there is a double entendre I missed.

BTW I was in Glorietta Mall with a young lady at 13:30 last Friday and I have got to admit the question posed by Hairy Wonder passed through my mind as my wife thought I was in Hong Kong at the time.

Hairy Wonder
10-24-07, 22:20
Sorry Hairy you are backwards. The bomb was on the other side (back) of the mall.

Stay Safe,
Robb

She could have told me anything, and I would have beleived it. That was my first time in the mall, let alone Makati. I was more concerned about the welfare of her cute cousin that she had just introduced me to in the center circle of the mall. Wouldn't want such a cute future possibility to be hurt! She was working a little donut stand there. Reports I have since received through chat says that the cousin got out without a scratch. Of course, I expressed my releif and concern for her health. ;) The cousin and a sister are lined up for me when I return again, so I am told.

The explosion worked to my benefit actually. The 2 girls I was with were from one of the clubs on P Burgos Street. I had talked with them over a beer early the evening before. After bar hopping a bit, I saw them on the street as they were going "home." They asked if they could meet me at 1 pm on Friday. Not being one to refuse a possible 3some freebie, I said yes. After the explosion, the girls told me that they had planned to just walk around in the mall with me. Instead, we went to the Star Central mall (another first for me), ate lunch, and then the more agressive girl suggested going back to my hotel room. After arriving in the room, both girls quickly stripped, quickly showered and hopped into bed with me. One of the girls was acting very shy, and would only give me a quick BBBJ and a reluctant DATY. The other one was open to almost anything, except anal. After the first round, the shy girl left, saying she had a baby at home to take care of. I'm hoping to see her again and get more action the next time. The other one jumped me several times that day and night. Even when we woke up the next morning, making me miss my scheduled flight. Total expenses with these 2 girls was less than P5k (not including the $50 penalty for rescheduling my flight).

Sorry I don't have any pics to go along with all of this. Next time I will have to buy a camera and familiarize myself with it before going.

H.W.

Ekspat
10-25-07, 04:19
Professors in the PI make very little money compared to the U.S.
That's true as I was thinking about doing the same and did some research.
Better you work as Professor in Hongkong or Singapore, get some real money for the job and travel from there as often as you want into the Phils.
Same what I'm doing now and I have buried the plans to work in Phils.

Cheers!

Tonedog
10-27-07, 05:53
Will very likely visit PI at the end of the year (part of my trip to Asia which will include China). While in PI, I would like to get some major dental work done.

I have RTFF and there is very little info on the subject, not to mentioned out of date. Has anyone recently (within the past 12 months) had any dental work done in PI? If so, can you recommend any dentist either in Manila or AC?

Thanks in advance.

Tonedog

Frequent Flier
10-28-07, 16:45
Will very likely visit PI at the end of the year (part of my trip to Asia which will include China). While in PI, I would like to get some major dental work done.

I have RTFF and there is very little info on the subject, not to mentioned out of date. Has anyone recently (within the past 12 months) had any dental work done in PI? If so, can you recommend any dentist either in Manila or AC?

Thanks in advance.

Tonedog


Try this site http://www.smilemakeoverdental.net/

I have read some good things about them on another write up about AC. The reviews are real as the same people posted the same info on another site that they wrote web site for the Dentist..

I hope this didn't violate Jackson's rules.

FF

X Man
10-29-07, 13:29
Yes, this place has provided good service to X Man, but they were impeded by the crappy service that is offerred elsewhere in PI. I needed a crown, got good service, and later bad service, but only because... YOU SHOULD EXPECT THINGS TO BE LATE IN THE PHILIPPINES!!!

Kind of nice the dentist gave me and her hot assistant a ride back late into the night, since it took several hours for my crown to get a good fit. Dentist was nothing I would kick out of be for eating crackers either.

X


Try this site http://www.smilemakeoverdental.net/

I have read some good things about them on another write up about AC. The reviews are real as the same people posted the same info on another site that they wrote web site for the Dentist..

I hope this didn't violate Jackson's rules.

FF

Tbm Fan
10-30-07, 01:35
Will very likely visit PI at the end of the year (part of my trip to Asia which will include China). While in PI, I would like to get some major dental work done.

I have RTFF and there is very little info on the subject, not to mentioned out of date. Has anyone recently (within the past 12 months) had any dental work done in PI? If so, can you recommend any dentist either in Manila or AC?

Thanks in advance.

TonedogHonestly I'd get any dental work done in Bangkok instead. Philippine training in any health field is not tops. On the other hand denstistry in Bangkok is top notch with all the modern equipment you would expect in Europe or the US.

GoodEnough
10-30-07, 11:12
Honestly I'd get any dental work done in Bangkok instead. Philippine training in any health field is not tops. On the other hand denstistry in Bangkok is top notch with all the modern equipment you would expect in Europe or the US.
Actually, that's not quite true. One of the conundrums, for me at least, of living here is why the medical care is third-rate but the dental care is excellent. My dentist, for example, received a large part of his training in the US, and his office is as modern as anything you would find in my hometown. He work too, is excellent and the price is about 20% of what you would pay in the US. Of course this is in Davao, and I have no names of good dentists in Manila or AC.

GE

Eaglestar
10-30-07, 12:21
Actually, that's not quite true. One of the conundrums, for me at least, of living here is why the medical care is third-rate but the dental care is excellent. My dentist, for example, received a large part of his training in the US, and his office is as modern as anything you would find in my hometown. He work too, is excellent and the price is about 20% of what you would pay in the US. Of course this is in Davao, and I have no names of good dentists in Manila or AC.

GE

I used a Dr. Reyes who had a clinic in Makati several years ago when I lived in Manila. Excellent service by a US trained dentist. No idea if he is still there.

ES

Wazza88
10-30-07, 21:22
Will very likely visit PI at the end of the year (part of my trip to Asia which will include China). While in PI, I would like to get some major dental work done.

I have RTFF and there is very little info on the subject, not to mentioned out of date. Has anyone recently (within the past 12 months) had any dental work done in PI? If so, can you recommend any dentist either in Manila or AC?

Thanks in advance.

TonedogI can recommend an excellent dentist in AC.

Dr. Cynthia Cabrerra,
Balibago Branch,
2nd. Floor Security Bank,
Mc Arthur Highway. (adjacent to Savers Mall)

She is the dentist's dentist.

PM me for phone no. Or other questions. Warren

Tonedog
10-31-07, 01:58
Hey. Thanks to all of you who provided feedback to my request of a recommended dentist in AC or Manila.

I will definitely check out all the suggestions given. As for going to Thailand rather than PI. This is my take.

Yes, I agree that both the service and quality of work is 1st rate in Thailand (I had sought medical attention in LOS in the past) at a fraction of the cost to either the US or Canada. But after doing my homework and researching about medical and dental work in PI, I found that many people (including some of you fellow 'hunters') who have had work done in PI were very satisfied with the service and the quality. And here's the kicker, prices are about another 10-20% cheaper than Thailand. And you know what that means, even more $$$ for 'hunting' (he he he).

I was originally thinking about going to Thailand to get dental work, but I really want to visit PI (the reason is obvious. He he), AND I can save even more $$$ and still get high quality of work.

So. Unless someone can make a fair comparison btw dental work done in Thailand vs. PI, and put Thailand far better than PI in quality and cost, I will most likely see myself heading to PI at the end of the year for some 'fun'.

Looking forward to any additional feedback.

Thanks again.

Tonedog

Bilbo Baggins
10-31-07, 03:01
Can anyone recommend this Dentist in Davao she has a good website. Debra Occeña-Sablada, Occena Dental Office, 31 Tionko Avenue, Davao. Her website looks encouraging. http://web.mac.com/occena.dental/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html


GoodEnough, I did send you a pm last year but never got a reply I will be in Davao in a few months time and want to get some work done. I'd be interested in any dentists you could recommend if you are inclined.

X Man
10-31-07, 03:22
If you don't already know it, Dragonslayer's thread has info about Davao and GE often posts there. I write this, because if you look at the main board it appears that no one is posting there.

Have you already emailed the Davao dentist? Did you get a quote for a crown? I think I paid 3500 or 4000 when I was in AC.

BTW, I'll probably be in Davao around the New Year.

X


Can anyone recommend this Dentist in Davao she has a good website. Debra Occeña-Sablada, Occena Dental Office, 31 Tionko Avenue, Davao. Her website looks encouraging. http://web.mac.com/occena.dental/iWeb/Site/Welcome.html


GoodEnough, I did send you a pm last year but never got a reply I will be in Davao in a few months time and want to get some work done. I'd be interested in any dentists you could recommend if you are inclined.

Hypo Luxa
10-31-07, 03:50
I will retire young to the phils in the next 8 years.

An option to do that even earlier is to take a job , full or part time, at a good Uni as a prof. A woman that is going to be a prof said she's sure I could work at her Uni and there are other ex-pats there (she was 2nd in line to my GM when I ran a small IT company in phils) and it sounded like it's not too tough if you're from the west. All you need is a Masters, not Phd.

Some of you must know guys that do this. This would seem to be the ULTIMATE honey pot for attracting young beauties. Can't fuck the students, but their friends.I would say this is a good option for retirement in the PI, but I would be wary of fucking your students. I would concentrate on the normal hobbyist action there. A friend of mine was a teacher there from the US and didn't mix biz with pleasure.

Good luck!

Wander Luster
10-31-07, 04:08
Does Mercury Drug store have the reall v with the pfizer stamped logo? What is the cost of a doctor visit and a valid prescription for the med?

In cebu, there are 2 drug stores in ayala. The one that has more than just a pharma counter (forget if that is mercury or the other) will sell you V with no prescription and is the real thing. Have done it many times. I'm fairly young, don't know if that makes a difference.

Bilbo Baggins
10-31-07, 05:30
If you don't already know it, Dragonslayer's thread has info about Davao and GE often posts there. I write this, because if you look at the main board it appears that no one is posting there.

Have you already emailed the Davao dentist? Did you get a quote for a crown? I think I paid 3500 or 4000 when I was in AC.

BTW, I'll probably be in Davao around the New Year.

X
Thanks X Man, I follow everything I can on Davao so I am aware and I find the information coming from those two exceptional characters very helpful as well as your own contribution. I can't contribute much because I'm not there yet. I was just going with the flow of this thread taking the opportunity as it presented itself. That Website states they don't give quotes until they have seen the damage.

I had planned on being in Davao earlier this year but got caught up in an acrimonious divorce settlement and couldn't leave the country for fear of being evicted while I was away. Once the dust settles I plan on being there sometime from February to April next year unless everything is signed before then.

X Man
10-31-07, 11:53
Yes, good advice. Even if the original quoter sticks to "friends" of students, the "friends" will talk with each other, and then tell their friends...and the friends of friends... and eventually the whole school knows. I have a friend who teaches uni. After a party, two students announced that they had missed the last train. He put them up in an extra room. Two days later he was called into the dean's office.

X


I would say this is a good option for retirement in the PI, but I would be wary of fucking your students. I would concentrate on the normal hobbyist action there. A friend of mine was a teacher there from the US and didn't mix biz with pleasure.

Good luck!

Industrial
11-01-07, 22:53
Hi all,

Long time lurker here, first off- thanks to everyone here for all the great info. It's helped me more times than I can count.

I'll be in Manila the weekend of November 16th (staying on Burgos that weekend.) I've also been in contact with a CB girl who wants to meet up- smoking hot, as she's sent me many pictures, 23 yrs old, etc.

I've RTFF on CB encounters, but wanted to get some opinions on one thing- What are the honest odds of fucking this girl? I'm decent looking, no problems there, but really when you talk to a CB girl over email, they're all looking for love, blah blah.

Honestly- in your experience, do they all fuck? If so, how quickly? How have you suggested / approached the subject? Idea for first meeting?

BTW- I plan on bringing back plenty of photos for posting and sharing, as it's my turn to return the favor.

Industrial

Tbm Fan
11-01-07, 23:03
Actually, that's not quite true. One of the conundrums, for me at least, of living here is why the medical care is third-rate but the dental care is excellent. My dentist, for example, received a large part of his training in the US, and his office is as modern as anything you would find in my hometown. He work too, is excellent and the price is about 20% of what you would pay in the US. Of course this is in Davao, and I have no names of good dentists in Manila or AC.

GEWell, if we are talking US trained then that is a whole different thing. If we are talking Philippine schools then you will need to look high and low. I am in the health field and have seen enough to make me pause. Most of my friends live there and have had hit and miss issues. Quality of fillings and especially bridge work and crowns can fall short. Of course, a lot of that is money driven seeing as how the locals more often than not get inferior work as compared to ex-pats who can be charged more. Still wouldn't hold my breath on that as what are you going to do when 2 years later your jaw is sore because the bridge fit was poor and it finally caught up to you.

Fastpiston
11-02-07, 03:11
Yes, good advice. Even if the original quoter sticks to "friends" of students, the "friends" will talk with each other, and then tell their friends...and the friends of friends... and eventually the whole school knows. I have a friend who teaches uni. After a party, two students announced that they had missed the last train. He put them up in an extra room. Two days later he was called into the dean's office.

X

And you can be sure, the story gets exaggerated at every step of the gossip chain. Never be alone with a female either - stories can also be imagined...Act like a doctor! Remember:do not mix shit with your meal!

Wicked Roger
11-02-07, 15:00
Hi all,

Long time lurker here, first off- thanks to everyone here for all the great info. It's helped me more times than I can count.

I'll be in Manila the weekend of November 16th (staying on Burgos that weekend.) I've also been in contact with a CB girl who wants to meet up- smoking hot, as she's sent me many pictures, 23 yrs old, etc.

I've RTFF on CB encounters, but wanted to get some opinions on one thing- What are the honest odds of fucking this girl? I'm decent looking, no problems there, but really when you talk to a CB girl over email, they're all looking for love, blah blah.

Honestly- in your experience, do they all fuck? If so, how quickly? How have you suggested / approached the subject? Idea for first meeting?

BTW- I plan on bringing back plenty of photos for posting and sharing, as it's my turn to return the favor.

Industrial
Industrial

All depends on the girl and how sweet you are. ay the right tings, see if she brings chaperon as they can be tasty or tastier :).

Read the FRs from some of us and you will see it is hit or miss....mostly hit :)

But if it is a miss plenty in Burgos to choose form and if non there try the malls, ESDA, go to AC...so much pussy around you will be in lust every 5 seconds (well OK that's me :))

PM or share her details on the Forum as we may have already trodden that road before you or know her as a scam.

X Man
11-02-07, 15:07
Using Vista on a new computer and having problems...

Just saw Amavida gave a pretty good post to Industrial Waste (IW). I (of course) would not have been so generous.

IW claims to have done the rtff, but somehow this long term lurker has completely missed the "chat room" threads. Or worse, just decided the opinions were unbelievable. IW also seems to have benefitted from ISG... Does that mean IW has already been to the Philippines...yet has only two posts? Tell me it isn't true!

IW wants to know about fking the girl. Well, that may be the goal, but what he needs to pay attention to is how you get there. Read amavida's post.

Maybe I've been here too long...starting to wonder what is the purpose. Starting to understand why SH, CL went from prolific posters and then one day, completely disappeared.

Holding my X breath, waiting for Industrial to send in his notes...as he's promised.



Hi all,

Long time lurker here, first off- thanks to everyone here for all the great info. It's helped me more times than I can count.

I'll be in Manila the weekend of November 16th (staying on Burgos that weekend.) I've also been in contact with a CB girl who wants to meet up- smoking hot, as she's sent me many pictures, 23 yrs old, etc.

I've RTFF on CB encounters, but wanted to get some opinions on one thing- What are the honest odds of fucking this girl? I'm decent looking, no problems there, but really when you talk to a CB girl over email, they're all looking for love, blah blah.

Honestly- in your experience, do they all fuck? If so, how quickly? How have you suggested / approached the subject? Idea for first meeting?

BTW- I plan on bringing back plenty of photos for posting and sharing, as it's my turn to return the favor.

Industrial

Amavida
11-02-07, 15:16
Hi all,

Long time lurker here, first off- thanks to everyone here for all the great info. It's helped me more times than I can count.

I'll be in Manila the weekend of November 16th (staying on Burgos that weekend.) I've also been in contact with a CB girl who wants to meet up- smoking hot, as she's sent me many pictures, 23 yrs old, etc.

I've RTFF on CB encounters, but wanted to get some opinions on one thing- What are the honest odds of fucking this girl? I'm decent looking, no problems there, but really when you talk to a CB girl over email, they're all looking for love, blah blah.

Honestly- in your experience, do they all fuck? If so, how quickly? How have you suggested / approached the subject? Idea for first meeting?

BTW- I plan on bringing back plenty of photos for posting and sharing, as it's my turn to return the favor.

Industrial

Hi Ind,
I'll be there that week also but flying home on the week-end.
Now Bearing in mind this is based on my own personal experiences...
For example I value highy the GFE so I choose to meet girls that I genuinely like & feel some romance with. (If I just want PSE I go to a bar & have at it)

Ok in answer to your questions :

1) What are the odds of fucking (this) girl?
Unknown. You really never know until you meet them.
Some come on strong sexually on line but are often either just fantasizing or checking out your reactions eg if you come back with really lewd responses they just confirmed to themselves that you are just after sex.
Careful choice of girl by getting to know them is important.
Romance is a powerful aphrodisiac my friend.

2) do they all fuck?
Of course not. Ratio varies from trip to trip.

3) how quickly?
Depends entirely on the girl, if they genuinely like you & you don't scare them off they will engage in gfe type sex with you. usually by the second or third date. Few fuck on the first date.

4) How have you suggested / approached the subject? Idea for first meeting?
No! Never! Remember you're a decent chap there to meet them because you like them & want them to be your GF. If they get the slightest whiff that you want to treat them like a prostitute its all over.

My advise is to carefully pick the ones you want to meet, cultivate some friendship & romance. Then when you meet just enjoy the socialising, let them come to you, dont scare them off by being to forward. They will tell you with body language if they are secretly hot for you. Wait until you are both comfortable with each other in a private place before making a move (or they will).

if you don't get a root, don't worry you enjoyed the socialising anyway right? You can always go pick up a Bar girl or freelancer later & take out your carnal frustrations on them...

Happy mongering
Amavida

Luvulooongtime
11-02-07, 16:00
Indy: From my personal experience you will get laid on first date, 25% of the time. Only met 4 online girls before. One was scammer with fake photos, who I kicked out of my room. One was a genuine nursing student but no chemistry between us. One was a hottie who I could of scored but would have taken several dates, but I did not want to invest the time. And one cutey who screwed my brains out within 4 hours of meeting. Thats the odds on internet girls from my personal experience. I have had better luck with sales girls at the mall. I think Amivida advice is spot on.

Luvulooongtime

OptimusPrime
11-02-07, 16:18
I have pretty much seen every acronym on all the mongering chat boards but what is RTFF?

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Industrial
11-02-07, 21:40
Wicked Roger, Amavida, Luvulooongtime: This is why I come here- excellent advice as usual. Thank you very much. I do promise to post on the results of this meeting- stay tuned.

X- holy hell dude. What to say, I apologize if I've cluttered the forum up with my post. Based on the other responses to my post, I'm not getting that vibe? In any event, yeah, first post for me. Gotta start somewhere right?

Let me define lurker- probably 18 months of RTFF, one visit to Manila, 3 to BKK, and left smiling each time. Do I regret not reporting these adventures here? I do. This time I will. I, as thousands of people around the world have before me, have saved countless mistakes by learning from the good people of ISG.

Lastly, OptimusPrime, damn my friend- I hope X man is easier on you.

(Read The Fuckin' Forum)

I

Curry
11-04-07, 13:12
is it to find Filipinas of mixed Asian/black blood like the ones in California. It makes for a gorgeous combination but I dont see any in the Photos.I am strongly considering spending 2 weeks in AC but dont want to be completely dissapointed as I am a lover of dark skin ladies.I prefer the slim types w/nice asses. I hear the average Filipina has a flat rear but I may be able to make an exception.Doesnt Dennis Rodman's father have kids running around there? Maybe he has a hot daughter or sumpn?

Freetime
11-04-07, 16:57
is it to find Filipinas of mixed Asian/black blood like the ones in California. It makes for a gorgeous combination but I dont see any in the Photos.I am strongly considering spending 2 weeks in AC but dont want to be completely dissapointed as I am a lover of dark skin ladies.I prefer the slim types w/nice asses. I hear the average Filipina has a flat rear but I may be able to make an exception.Doesnt Dennis Rodman's father have kids running around there? Maybe he has a hot daughter or sumpn?Lots of 2nd and 3rd generation bargirls working in AC. I.E. lot of mixed race girls. The mixed white girls are more top shelf and the asians love them. I love them all and they are easy to find in AC.

X Man
11-05-07, 12:27
WHen I read Curry's post, there was someone special that came to mind. She wasn't mixed blood as far as I know...but...

It must have been a year or two, but the woman of your dreams was posted on the Thai photo thread. I don't think I dowloaded any of the pics, but she was a dark brown, skinny, supermodel fantastic. If anyone has those pics, send them to me...and to curry too if you think he's worthy.

There was a tall, half black, full booty, lady at EDSA...the arrows and ???...cowboys and indians bar..( I forgot the name)... Not slim by Asian standards, but pretty svelte nontheless.

X





is it to find Filipinas of mixed Asian/black blood like the ones in California. It makes for a gorgeous combination but I dont see any in the Photos.I am strongly considering spending 2 weeks in AC but dont want to be completely dissapointed as I am a lover of dark skin ladies.I prefer the slim types w/nice asses. I hear the average Filipina has a flat rear but I may be able to make an exception.Doesnt Dennis Rodman's father have kids running around there? Maybe he has a hot daughter or sumpn?

Minnesota Peter
11-07-07, 19:26
What city would you recommend in the PI for the best GFE experience? Davao? An island I always swore I would never go to. Been to the PI several times over the last 20 years, but not in the last 6.

X Man
11-08-07, 15:41
And why would you swear to never go to the island of Davao?


What city would you recommend in the PI for the best GFE experience? Davao? An island I always swore I would never go to. Been to the PI several times over the last 20 years, but not in the last 6.

GoodEnough
11-08-07, 23:32
Just for the sake of accuracy, Davao is not an island. It is the largest city on the island of Mindanao, which is the second largest island in the Philippines after Luzon.

X Man
11-09-07, 01:15
C'mon GE, don't be a spoilsport. I was hoping to have some fun with that one.

X


Just for the sake of accuracy, Davao is not an island. It is the largest city on the island of Mindanao, which is the second largest island in the Philippines after Luzon.

Tungsten Chef
11-12-07, 03:31
I will be getting married next year in Phils. My gf says I need a paper of some sort proving I am not married. She says I have to get it at the Canadian embassy in Manila. A co-worker told me this is wrong, only residents of Phils have to get this paper in Phils. Can I get the paper in Canada? I really don't want to go to Manila alone. Also someone said it can take hours to make it thru the line up. Others have said if you have a passport you can go right to the front of the line. Sounds like a cash grab if it's true. Should just be able to get this paper in Canada.

Minnesota Peter
11-12-07, 18:09
"It is the largest city on the island of Mindanao. "

REALLY? Boy the hobby has you guys pretty jaded. Davao doesn't really concern me but the island does (I have a brother-in-law living in Davao). Guess you "experts" don't know there are some upset Muslims on this island.

Can you tone down the smart a comments and answer the relevant question I asked, please.