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[RakSopheni]

Does anyone with BOTG have information regarding restrictions on inter-island and inter-regional travel. A recent youtube video by Philly in the Philippines seemed to suggest that this process was paper-work heavy with mandatory check-ins with Barangay Captains and the submission of pre-travel clearance forms for a simple trip from Angeles to Puerto Galera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=211LDgoQ4Lc

Assuming this is all still true, do the same BOTG members see this loosening up in the coming months should the trend towards Omicron endemicity and less restrictions continue?

[PolyOrchid]

Read this report directly from the Philippines authorities.

Good news for non-vaxxed. We too can enter, but must incur a 14-day quarantine.

[GoodEnough]

Yesterday, I posted a link to a news article quoting a government official that the country would open again for tourists on or about 10 February. Today, another newspaper claims that the decision relative to the admission of tourists is "on hold" because of the omicron spread. Given that nothing much has ostensibly changed over the past 24 hours, it's not clear what the policy is. Here's the link to the aforementioned article: https://www.thenationalnews.com/travel/covid-19-travel/2022/01/14/philippines-travel-rules-only-fully-vaccinated-foreigners-can-enter-from-february/.

I cannot offer any clarification as to which of the sources is accurate; the one I cited yesterday or that from today's link.

GE.

[GoodEnough]

Does anyone with BOTG have information regarding restrictions on inter-island and inter-regional travel. A recent youtube video by Philly in the Philippines seemed to suggest that this process was paper-work heavy with mandatory check-ins with Barangay Captains and the submission of pre-travel clearance forms for a simple trip from Angeles to Puerto Galera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=211LDgoQ4Lc

Assuming this is all still true, do the same BOTG members see this loosening up in the coming months should the trend towards Omicron endemicity and less restrictions continue?I think that anyone offering clear predictions is doing so on the basis of hunches. As you rightly pointed out, rules changes and "mandatory" checks may actually be true or may be ignored totally, and it is not possible to predict what will be the case once you arrive. I could, for example, as of today, hop a flight from Davao to Clark with no test requirements and on presentation of vaccination certificates. . In theory, I could return to Davao without any testing requirements as well. However, this could change overnight and it would be unsurprising. In theory, I could drive from Davao to CdO (about 300 km) with no worries. In practice, some barangay captain could decide to erect a roadblock somewhere along my route and decide to require a negative PCR test result which I could not provide. Likewise, I might find on my return that Davao has changed the rules and requires a negative PCR test prior to being allowed re-entry. The frequent, seemingly impulsive rule changes—usually communicated quite poorly—are one of the reasons I've deferred all in-country travel.

The only certainty right now is the uncertainty of pandemic responses not only within and between regions, but also from barangay to barangay. My guess—and I emphasize that this is strictly conjecture—is that, as in other countries, the omicron wave will recede here within another 3-4 weeks and the country will begin to open again assuming omicron is not supplanted by yet another mutation. That said, I think the national government is doing its best to cope with an extraordinary public health situation, by making vaccines accessible to as many people as possible and doing so at no cost to the recipients and that's commendable.

GE.

[The Rose]

What an unfortunate way to let yourself feel. Cogitate more and maybe some niceness will come your way.You are patronizing me and virtue signaling.

If you have a breadth of experience in the Philippines or if you RTFF then you will have familiarity with the following hazards pitfalls that await foreigners in the Philippines. This list is not exhaustive.

Those guys on Fields Avenue who claim that they know you from the hotel in order to involve you in a scam.

The petty criminals who clamor to sit next to you on the LRT or the jeep because you are a foreigner so that they can try to pick your pocket.

The bargirl who promises to stay all night and then leaves after one session claiming her mother just got sick.

The several foreigners who are robbed and murdered each year and yet these crimes are never solved.

The staff at the bar who pester you to buy unwanted drinks.

The never ending parade of hucksters on the street who accost you with a never ending variety of ways to get you to reach in your pocket and part with your money.

The whole gang of trike drivers who have institutionalized overcharging foreigners.

The girls who are in cahoots with the police or with police impersonators and claim that they are either under age or have been abused in a foreigner's hotel room so as to extort money from the foreigner.

The waitress in the bar who pads the bill after the foreigner can't effectively track what he has drunk.

The customs officer at the airport who plants contraband in a foreigner's luggage to extort money from him.

Like I said this list is not comprehensive.

BTW. I am nice and much niceness comes my way even though I am perceived as a walking ATM machine. I am ever vigilant and never stray too far from my primary purposes for being in this land. Always remember: If you begin to understand the Philippines then you are totally confused.

[Goferring]

I think that anyone offering clear predictions is doing so on the basis of hunches. As you rightly pointed out, rules changes and "mandatory" checks may actually be true or may be ignored totally, and it is not possible to predict what will be the case once you arrive.

GE.It's perfectly normal for the permitted and practical to be totally different things. 😜.

It looks as if the desperate and dateless may be confined to Angeles were a lot more is allowed by locals, transport and accommodation options. Unfortunately, for those going to Manila, Cebu or the provincial centers it may be a while before AirBnB, condos, Grab and the like allow easy access to our hobby.

Progress is being made though. 👍.

[RainmanSahut]

Philippines Government Announces Travel Ban Lifted February 10 with No Quarantine.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/article/philippines-reopening-tourism-intl-hnk/index.html

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1919432/manila/local-news/ph-to-accept-tourists-from-non-visa-required-countries-by-feb-10

Fully vaccinated foreign travelers from non-visa required countries may enter the Philippines either for business or tourism purposes, acting presidential spokesperson Cabinet Secretary Karlo Nograles said on Friday, January 28,2022.

Traveler required to present a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours prior to departure from the country of origin.

Upon arrival in the Philippines, they will no longer be required to observe mandatory facility-based quarantine and should instead self-monitor for any signs or symptoms within seven days with the date of arrival as their first day.

They will be required to present a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours prior to departure from the country of origin.

Happy Hunting Fellows.

Rainman.

[WestCoast1]

The Philippines uses a yellow vaccination card which can be bought from Amazon. All those that I saw in Manila are electronic (not paper) and from the same source (NCR). Online, in advance of your vax, you must register. Your name, address, phone number, and selfie (mandatory) are recorded and placed on your electronic vax record. The electronic vax card / record they send to your phone also includes a QR code that is generated and just for you. When you show up for your vaccination (mass vax sites, vaxxing hundreds or thousands at a time), you must show a valid eye dee, and on your phone you show the vax record (complete with your picture and QR code). The info on your electronic vax record, including your pic, must match your face and your eye dee. You sit down for your shot, and a clerk takes your eye dee and phone to compare pics and make sure that you are you. He then scans your vax record's QR code, which brings up on his computer screen the same vax record. This prevents buying a fake card from anywhere (it would not have your unique government-issued QR code). When the clerk is happy, you get jabbed from a nurse. Once jabbed, the clerk clicks something on his computer. They told me to hit 'Refresh' on my phone's vax record. Whereas before the vax record on my phone had blank administration boxes, once I refreshed, it said such as: "August 9 2021, Pfizer, Lot 206, M Alvarez 9 (the nurse' name), Brgy 607 Malate, Manila". No hand-writing anything on a card. The same thing happened with my second vax.

Others, both pinoy and foreigners, had the same vax card on their phone. At times when the NCR goes into stricter lockdown, all the indoor food joints started making us show a vax record in order to enter the place.


I'd also keep a close eye on Airbnb's and their wordings on who can enter the condo. No use making a trip if they won't allow girls to visit your room. More true words can not be spoken. BM is repeating what I said before, and it bears saying again: Do NOT trust what you read in airbnb descriptions of condo units. Few owners have bothered to update their description to tell you that the government has closed the ammenities (basketball court, pool, and gym). At times of different lockdown strictness, some residences will open one of those items, socially-distanced (example: only 1 family can use the pool at a time, to include no more than 4 persons in the water at once). The gym, if opened (I've noticed never at the same time as their pool), might allow no more than 3 or 4 persons inside. This usually last 2 or 3 weeks, then the residence closes everything again. Many residences have not opened any of their amenities during lockdown (so much cheaper to maintain a gym or pool that you don't have to maintain). None of this has stopped owners / hosts from continuing to advertise the lovely pool or gym at their place.

Same can be said for your guests. A general rule of thumb (during pandemic) is this: You can register (in advance) as many guests as the unit allows. If you are registering for 2 persons, then the host will want you to send your and your (1) guest's eye dee in advance. You (and guest) might be required to provide a health checkup from a doctor or a PCR negative result. If you are registering for 3 persons, you must send all of that (or show up with the 2 guests and everyone's health documents) in advance. This prevents you from bringing in girls serially, as we are used to pre-pandemic.

Elevators now hold a max of 4 persons, so you can plan on longer wait times. For those of you familiar with Birch Tower's long lines pre-pandemic when a dozen people can be squeezed in the elevators, imagine how long the waits are now.

You need to ask questions about these kinds of things from your host before renting. Also, many places want a month's rent, many refuse to take over-night or for a week (not mentioned in the description). Also some unit owners will refuse you the opportunity to go there and view the room; they will tell you to rent for a month and if you don't like the place you can leave, but no refunds. Also don't be surprised if you msg a host in Airbnb, and nobody responds. That just means the owner is not wanting to rent, and has forgotten / failed to de-list the place. Airbnb has gone strange.

[Sammon]

Elevators now hold a max of 4 persons, so you can plan on longer wait times. For those of you familiar with Birch Tower's long lines pre-pandemic when a dozen people can be squeezed in the elevators, imagine how long the waits are now.

strange.You mean to say everyone needs a booster dose of viagra from the the time you wait for the slow elevator till you get inside your room LOL!

[GoodEnough]

Yesterday, I posted a link to a news article quoting a government official that the country would open again for tourists on or about 10 February. Today, another newspaper claims that the decision relative to the admission of tourists is "on hold" because of the omicron spread. Given that nothing much has ostensibly changed over the past 24 hours, it's not clear what the policy is. Here's the link to the aforementioned article: https://www.thenationalnews.com/travel/covid-19-travel/2022/01/14/philippines-travel-rules-only-fully-vaccinated-foreigners-can-enter-from-february/.

I cannot offer any clarification as to which of the sources is accurate; the one I cited yesterday or that from today's link.

GE.I should not have posted the link above without having first checked the date, which I failed to do. The date of the article was 14 January, which preceded the date of the announcement of a couple of days ago. Thus I assume that the 10 February date for the entry of tourists is still valid. Sorry for not having been more thorough.

[WestCoast1]

You mean to say everyone needs a booster dose of viagra from the the time you wait for the slow elevator till you get inside your room LOL!Hahaha. If by 'everyone' you mean me, then: Yes! At my age. . .

And then please refresh your vax card. See if it says "August 9 2021, Viagra, Lot 206, J Alcalda (your hussie), Brgy 607 Malate, Manila".

[RakSopheni]

I think that anyone offering clear predictions is doing so on the basis of hunches. As you rightly pointed out, rules changes and "mandatory" checks may actually be true or may be ignored totally, and it is not possible to predict what will be the case once you arrive. I could, for example, as of today, hop a flight from Davao to Clark with no test requirements and on presentation of vaccination certificates. . In theory, I could return to Davao without any testing requirements as well. However, this could change overnight and it would be unsurprising. In theory, I could drive from Davao to CdO (about 300 km) with no worries. In practice, some barangay captain could decide to erect a roadblock somewhere along my route and decide to require a negative PCR test result which I could not provide. Likewise, I might find on my return that Davao has changed the rules and requires a negative PCR test prior to being allowed re-entry. The frequent, seemingly impulsive rule changesusually communicated quite poorlyare one of the reasons I've deferred all in-country travel..
It looks as if the desperate and dateless may be confined to Angeles were a lot more is allowed by locals, transport and accommodation options. Unfortunately, for those going to Manila, Cebu or the provincial centers it may be a while before AirBnB, condos, Grab and the like allow easy access to our hobby.I found both these responses useful and thoughtful, thanks.

From what I gather here and elsewhere it sounds like at the very least an arrival in Manila and subsequent travel to Pampanga via the Dau Bus or private car is still a possible and a practical expectation. Newly arriving tourists at the very least will not be confined to shuffling around Makati. Encouraging as well that in Angeles the Airbnb's and hotels are not as restrictive to our hobby. Both of these are baseline expectations.

Additional excursions, say perhaps Clark to Coron, Coron to El Nido (ferry) or Manila to El Nido might be subject to unpredictable and constantly changing requirements. A little research turned up a big laundry list of tasks to require to enter El Nido for example:

https://guidetothephilippines.ph/articles/ultimate-guides/philippines-travel-covid-19

El Nido, Palawan Island travel requirements for leisure travelers:

For tourists coming from outside Palawan:

Starting November 22, fully vaccinated* individuals are exempted from presenting a negative COVID-19 test. They must instead present a vaccination certificate from vaxcert.doh.gov.ph or a vaccination card.

Unvaccinated and partially vaccinated travelers need to negative RT-PCR test result taken within 72 hours prior to arrival.

Pre-booking at DOT-accredited El Nido hotels and resorts

Roundtrip flight tickets

A QR-coded tourist ID from elnidotourism.ph or the El Nido Tourism mobile app which they can download from the App Store or Google Play

Registration and Travel Permit from s-pass.ph

These tasks are more difficult than even entering the country. The pre-booking and roundtrip tickets are a huge risk in the case of denial of entry. And the S-Pass registration and Travel Permit is not possible unless you have a PH sim card because there is no way to change the country code.

https://s-pass.ph/

It's encouraging as another poster has pointed out that the USA CDC Vax card will be accepted. Also I would add that it is still possible to turn this paper card into a digital pass even if the issuer was not a state with a registry. Walgreens, for example, provided me with a Smart Health QR code on their website which alone was unusable, but then I was then able to verify it with the CommonPass App which produced another certificate and QR code that are universally readable.

All in all, it sounds like tourist travel to PH is now moving into the realm of possibility, but expectations need to be tempered and one should not expect a quick return to the good old days.

[Dashing Don]

You mean to say everyone needs a booster dose of viagra from the the time you wait for the slow elevator till you get inside your room LOL!That's the spirit! Mongers getting in the swing of things.

Its like old times. Making plans to meet far more girls than will be possible in a two week trip. Just caught up in the excitement. Juices beginning to flow again.

The Filipina Pea over on Youtube was ecstatic about the news as has been every Filipina I've communicated with.

Meantime there's a snowstorm here in NYC. Can't wait to get on that plane.

[Albert9989]

We are starting to see some form of confirmation of this opening on 10th of Feb, for example here https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.

And it is specified that french covid certificates are accepted, which is good too.


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These tasks are more difficult than even entering the country. The pre-booking and roundtrip tickets are a huge risk in the case of denial of entry. And the S-Pass registration and Travel Permit is not possible unless you have a PH sim card because there is no way to change the country code.Regarding sim card from Phil, that's not a real issue, you just have to buy it on arrival, airport or anywhere else, that's what I do all the times I come there, then you can use local apps with a Phil number, no prob.

[ThomasCasey]

More true words can not be spoken. BM is repeating what I said before, and it bears saying again: Do NOT trust what you read in airbnb descriptions of condo units. Few owners have bothered to update their description to tell you that the government has closed the ammenities (basketball court, pool, and gym). At times of different lockdown strictness, some residences will open one of those items, socially-distanced (example: only 1 family can use the pool at a time, to include no more than 4 persons in the water at once). The gym, if opened (I've noticed never at the same time as their pool), might allow no more than 3 or 4 persons inside. This usually last 2 or 3 weeks, then the residence closes everything again. Many residences have not opened any of their amenities during lockdown (so much cheaper to maintain a gym or pool that you don't have to maintain). None of this has stopped owners / hosts from continuing to advertise the lovely pool or gym at their place.

Same can be said for your guests. A general rule of thumb (during pandemic) is this: You can register (in advance) as many guests as the unit allows. If you are registering for 2 persons, then the host will want you to send your and your (1) guest's eye dee in advance. You (and guest) might be required to provide a health checkup from a doctor or a PCR negative result. If you are registering for 3 persons, you must send all of that (or show up with the 2 guests and everyone's health documents) in advance. This prevents you from bringing in girls serially, as we are used to pre-pandemic.Thanks for the intel WestCoast1. Traditionally I've stayed at hotels (whether in Palawan, Bohol, Manila, or Cebu), and have never had problems bringing anyone back. For my next trip (keeping fingers crossed the reopening is happening!) I was thinking about getting an Airbnb for more privacy to avoid the walk of shame at a hotel. Reading what you wrote is making me think it's better to just stick to a larger hotel as I'd hate to get blocked bringing anyone back.

Second question: I noticed a lot of people tend to go to a ST hotel for fun. I've never tried this as I've never had an issue staying at my regular hotel. Is there any particular reason why a number of you only use ST hotels? Is it for privacy, security? Just wondering so hopefully I can learn some new tricks. I guess I always feel more comfortable and cleaner being at my own hotel.

Thanks!

[RakSopheni]

Regarding sim card from Phil, that's not a real issue, you just have to buy it on arrival, airport or anywhere else, that's what I do all the times I come there, then you can use local apps with a Phil number, no prob.Yeah, agreed. It's just a waste though because I use google fi which gets service in any country the minute you land and this would mean I need to bring a second unlocked phone just for that specific purpose. As you point out though, it might not be necessary for much longer.

[WestCoast1]

We are starting to see some form of confirmation of this opening on 10th of Feb, for example here https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.


That's the spirit! Mongers getting in the swing of things.

Its like old times. Making plans to meet far more girls than will be possible in a two week trip. Just caught up in the excitement. Juices beginning to flow again.The fellas and the pinay are getting excited, and that's been my bailiwick (see pic). I expect at least one quality field report from every inbound BBB guy. Dr Westy is ready to turn over the reigns to the inbound foreign doctors. Let the vaxxing begin. . .

[JohnIsFun]

We are starting to see some form of confirmation of this opening on 10th of Feb, for example here https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.

And it is specified that french covid certificates are accepted, which is good too.

Regarding sim card from Phil, that's not a real issue, you just have to buy it on arrival, airport or anywhere else, that's what I do all the times I come there, then you can use local apps with a Phil number, no prob.You can buy SIM card locally at lot of places including the airport and many shops in the city. These are not expensive. What I found is the vendors selling at the airport will charge little extra. So only buy the sim card wit small credit that allows to get a Grab or taxi. You can top up in the city or online. You may there are more promotions online also.

[SinfullyKorean]

We are starting to see some form of confirmation of this opening on 10th of Feb, for example here https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.

And it is specified that french covid certificates are accepted, which is good too.

Regarding sim card from Phil, that's not a real issue, you just have to buy it on arrival, airport or anywhere else, that's what I do all the times I come there, then you can use local apps with a Phil number, no prob.Changing my travel plans from Thailand to Philippines. This is amazing news! Finally!!

[Mr Hawaii]

Thanks for the intel WestCoast1. Traditionally I've stayed at hotels (whether in Palawan, Bohol, Manila, or Cebu), and have never had problems bringing anyone back. For my next trip (keeping fingers crossed the reopening is happening!) I was thinking about getting an Airbnb for more privacy to avoid the walk of shame at a hotel. Reading what you wrote is making me think it's better to just stick to a larger hotel as I'd hate to get blocked bringing anyone back.

Second question: I noticed a lot of people tend to go to a ST hotel for fun. I've never tried this as I've never had an issue staying at my regular hotel. Is there any particular reason why a number of you only use ST hotels? Is it for privacy, security? Just wondering so hopefully I can learn some new tricks. I guess I always feel more comfortable and cleaner being at my own hotel.

Thanks!I never thought I would have the need to go to a short time hotel either. Then, one day, I was staying at a nice hotel in Makati, the girl I was with had to go to work, and I had to meet a girl at Mall of Asia. She wanted sex, and I did not have time to bring her back to my hotel in Makati and did not want her to be seen in the hotel, so I used the SOGO by the Heritage Hotel. The taxi driver knew what to do. So did the SOGO employees. You may also want a ST hotel if you are staying with one girl for a while in the same room. If you bring another girl back, girl #1 is guaranteed to find a single hair from the other girl. You can blame it on the housekeeper, but that is good for one time only. Happy Chinese New Year.

[Albert9989]

I did a search on Air France website for Paris-Manila.

I was laughing when I saw this result! Only the 1st flight.

I still have to find the way back. Hahahaha.

Hopefully, there are better prices elsewhere, but still 1000€ the whole round trip which is far above previous prices.

[Drbombay]

We are starting to see some form of confirmation of this opening on 10th of Feb, for example here https://parispe.dfa.gov.ph/.

And it is specified that french covid certificates are accepted, which is good too.

Regarding sim card from Phil, that's not a real issue, you just have to buy it on arrival, airport or anywhere else, that's what I do all the times I come there, then you can use local apps with a Phil number, no prob.Isn't it amazing, just in time for Valentine's Day! I'm sure that the online game from all these apps will start to see a sudden decrease in fellas willing to give "gifts" to their "special someone" in the PI and other places and start to hold back cash for in person trips! I'm not going to lie, I'm doing just that same thing! Now it's time to see who's real and willing to put in a little face to face time in person or just another con artist who will not be able to play too many guys for easy money!

[WestCoast1]

Thanks for the intel WestCoast1. Traditionally I've stayed at hotels (whether in Palawan, Bohol, Manila, or Cebu), and have never had problems bringing anyone back. For my next trip (keeping fingers crossed the reopening is happening!) I was thinking about getting an Airbnb for more privacy to avoid the walk of shame at a hotel. Reading what you wrote is making me think it's better to just stick to a larger hotel as I'd hate to get blocked bringing anyone back.

Second question: I noticed a lot of people tend to go to a ST hotel for fun. I've never tried this as I've never had an issue staying at my regular hotel. Is there any particular reason why a number of you only use ST hotels? Is it for privacy, security? Just wondering so hopefully I can learn some new tricks. I guess I always feel more comfortable and cleaner being at my own hotel.

Thanks!Simple: Hotels and airbnb / condos have stopped allowing multiple, serial guests. That all stopped in the first week of the pandemic. If you reserve an airbnb for 2 persons (yourself and 1 guest), you will probably have to provide for both of you (in advance) a copy of your eye dee and also some kind of health check (clear chest x-ray with doctor's note, or negative recent PCR test, before or upon arrival). This completely stops bringing in random girls you found on Tinder, the mall, or a bar, as there is little chance that she will have a current (and modern) eye dee, and there is little chance she will have a recent clear chest x-ray with her in her purse. Even if you register one of your girls (and only 1 is allowed on a 2-person rental), she can come / go as she pleases, but the other gals can't. Again, please check with your hotel or airbnb host in advance.

In a room full of blind people, a 1-eyed man is king. The ST hotel biz is booming (even among pinoy), and the ST hotel is now king.

Another re-iteration regarding eye dees. All of my regulars hadn't had a date during the entire pandemic. Later, when with me, they assumed that their old eye dee, which had always worked before, would still work. We got turned away at Sogos, VC's, and other less-desirable places because the girl produced non-valid eye dees. The hotel guards and clerks had been trained to make sure every guest had a valid government-issued eye dee. There are many government departments that issue eye dees, but they have all gone high-tech: Plastic cards, like your country's drivers license, or like a credit card, complete with magnetic stripe on the back and your girl's picture printed on the card itself. No more the old Phil Health card, that might have been hand-written on (a sure fake), and / or your girl's 1"x1" picture scotch-taped on the card (a sure fake). No more police clearance eye dee on a sheet of printer paper with the girl's picture on it (that's a legit police clearance, its just not a valid eye dee). I had to get eye dees for all my regulars. Postal eye dee is easiest, we did it online, and they offer 1-week or 1-day delivery to your home (to include the delivery price, all paid in cash to the delivery driver).

[Albert9989]

I had to get eye dees for all my regulars. Postal eye dee is easiest, we did it online, and they offer 1-week or 1-day delivery to your home (to include the delivery price, all paid in cash to the delivery driver).Is it possible to get these eye dees online from outside Phil? I mean before leaving our country, in order to be sure that the girl will have its real eye dee in hand when we arrive?

And where should it be sent? Postal mail is working fine everywhere in Phil?

[WestCoast1]

Is it possible to get these eye dees online from outside Phil? I mean before leaving our country, in order to be sure that the girl will have its real eye dee in hand when we arrive?

And where should it be sent? Postal mail is working fine everywhere in Phil?I think so. Several options.

1) Have the girl go on the website and find the costs (p800 for a postal eye dee I think it was, p80 for 1-week delivery, p500 for next day delivery). Send her p1500 in advance, and let her worry about it.

2) Alternately, send her the money prior to your arrival and have her go to one of the 20 or so Post Offices in the NCR that make them the same day, so she will have it for your arrival.

Caveat: Sending her money in advance is like investing in stocks: No guarantee that she will use it for the eye dee. No guarantee that she will show up even if she gets the eye dee.


And where should it be sent? Postal mail is working fine everywhere in Phil?They don't deliver their own product. They utilized paid motorcycle drivers for delivery. The driver txts you when he is in your area on the date of delivery to tell you he is on his way. Once there, he hands you a receipt for the amount from your website order (say, p1300). The girl hands over p1300, the driver hands over the packaged eye dee, and that's it. The 1300 includes his fee (about p100). I think there was no extra fee for the 1-week delivery, it was p100 over the fee for the license to cover the driver.

[Tntoni]

Hello,

I'm planning a trip of around 3 weeks in March.

Where do you recommend to stay considering current country condition?

I have been before in Manila, cebu and davao.

Cebu and davao were more handy to meet the girls.

I'm looking for a mix of normal girls, freelancers and some party.

Thanks!

[Albert9989]

I think so. Several options.

1) Have the girl go on the website and find the costs (p800 for a postal eye dee I think it was, p80 for 1-week delivery, p500 for next day delivery). Send her p1500 in advance, and let her worry about it.

2) Alternately, send her the money prior to your arrival and have her go to one of the 20 or so Post Offices in the NCR that make them the same day, so she will have it for your arrival.

Caveat: Sending her money in advance is like investing in stocks: No guarantee that she will use it for the eye dee. No guarantee that she will show up even if she gets the eye dee.

They don't deliver their own product. They utilized paid motorcycle drivers for delivery. The driver txts you when he is in your area on the date of delivery to tell you he is on his way. Once there, he hands you a receipt for the amount from your website order (say, p1300). The girl hands over p1300, the driver hands over the packaged eye dee, and that's it. The 1300 includes his fee (about p100)..OK, thanks, got it I guess.

Is that a unique national website or are they websites by region?

[WestCoast1]

OK, thanks, got it I guess.

Is that a unique national website or are they websites by region?The girls ordered them using their phones and had them delivered to their homes. I told them to splurge and spend bigger for the next-day delivery (I was anxious). Then I went to her home and spent some time there until the eye dee package was delivered, and paid the driver myself. I only saw one of the girls actually on the Internet entering her info (we were between rounds at a ST hotel). There is a website and an app for it. The app takes your pic (selfie) on your cell phone, and you take a picture of another eye dee (she used her birth certificate). I recall reading on the Postal service website that they had many local offices now producing the cards in-house, you could have one done the same day if you walked in with the required documents (a birth certificate I think).

And here is the link for the eye dee and the app: https://www.postalidph.com/.

On that website you can see a pic of a valid postal eye dee. Notice the QR code (lower right-hand corner) and other proper-eye-dee security measures on the card (including your pic, twice), making this type of eye dee difficult to forge (its hard plastic, like a credit card). At some point almost a year ago, hotels and such in the NCR started requiring this newer type of eye dee. There are about a dozen valid eye dee types in Phils (postal, SSS, voter's, etc) and they all look like this now. Also a police or NBI clearance are not eye dees at all, and Brgy eye dees (also now on plastic credit card-type material with your pic) are a not valid eye dee.

Postal eye dee security features:

On-site digital capture of fingerprints, photo, signature and personal details,
centralized ID printing and database to guarantee that the cards are authentic,
encrypted QR (quick response) code printed on the card can verify the identity of ID holder using a downloadable smart-phone application,
overlaid with a hologram that can be viewed only at certain angles,
ghost image and UV ink that illuminates in UV light,
applicant uniqueness check via the Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS). It compares the fingerprint collected with the fingerprint database records to ensure the applicants identity.

[Mdemde]

I noticed a lot of people tend to go to a ST hotel for fun. I've never tried this as I've never had an issue staying at my regular hotel. Is there any particular reason why a number of you only use ST hotels? Is it for privacy, security? Just wondering so hopefully I can learn some new tricks. I guess I always feel more comfortable and cleaner being at my own hotel.

Thanks!I live in a condo unit in Cebu City and sometimes bring the girl (s) to my room, sometimes I will use a s / t hotel. The main deciding factor for me is the appearance of the girl (s). If she / they are reasonably dressed then I will bring her / them back to my room, otherwise I will use a s / t hotel.

But at the moment, Cebu City and the whole of Cebu island along with Lapu-Lapu is at Alert Level 3, and visitors to my condo building are strictly not allowed so if I want to get laid I have to use a s / t hotel!

[Mdemde]

Hello,

I'm planning a trip of around 3 weeks in March.

Where do you recommend to stay considering current country condition?

I have been before in Manila, cebu and davao.

Cebu and davao were more handy to meet the girls.

I'm looking for a mix of normal girls, freelancers and some party.

Thanks!I'm currently living in Cebu City, be advised that Cebu City and the whole of Cebu island along with Lapu-Lapu is now at Alert Level 3 until at least February 15, and at this Level my condo building in Cebu City will not allow visitors. I suspect that the hotels will also prohibit guests from bringing visitors to their rooms. But the s / t hotels I use in Cebu City and neighbouring cities are open and I have not had any problems bringing a girl or girls to these hotels.

There is also currently an overnight curfew here in Cebu City and neighbouring cities starting at 11 pm meaning all bars and restaurants are closed at about 10.30 pm. As far as I am aware all nightclubs are still closed, and have been closed since the first lockdown back in March of 2020.

There are plenty of girls available, online, as well as in the bikini bars like Viking. There are also some girls available in bars like Bamboozers, Howling Dogs and The Philly (all on Mango Ave / General Maxilom Ave).

[Kiev Freak]

Which websites you use to find girls other than tinder? I heard pinalove and philipinacupid. There are more sites like that? In Thailand I was using only tinder and thaifriendly. What is the popular web dating sites to find girls in Philippines?

[Albert9989]

Which websites you use to find girls other than tinder? I heard pinalove and philipinacupid. There are more sites like that? In Thailand I was using only tinder and thaifriendly. What is the popular web dating sites to find girls in Philippines?For me I stick to DIA and oyoy, they still work very well.

[WestCoast1]

Which websites you use to find girls other than tinder? I heard pinalove and philipinacupid. There are more sites like that? In Thailand I was using only tinder and thaifriendly. What is the popular web dating sites to find girls in Philippines?Try DIA. Its free.

[Kiev Freak]

Thank you.

I am living in Thailand for more than 3 years. I apparently will move to Philippines after Covid restrictions. The problem in Thailand is attitude of girls. I have no problems with prices if girls are ok enough but, prices and attitudes are going opposite ways in Thailand.

I am 40 years old a big (fat) man and for me very very difficult to find young and nice Thai girls. They are too picky and usually they turn me down. I fed up with dealing with them really. I decided to look philippines, Angeles city and cebu but because of covid I still couldn't go. As well as I read, Pina girls are not so picky and stuck up. Is it true? Or pina girls prefer Koreans over farangs?

Which city is better to stay long term? Cebu?

[GDreams]

Thank you.

I am living in Thailand for more than 3 years. I apparently will move to Philippines after Covid restrictions. The problem in Thailand is attitude of girls. I have no problems with prices if girls are ok enough but, prices and attitudes are going opposite ways in Thailand.

I am 40 years old a big (fat) man and for me very very difficult to find young and nice Thai girls. They are too picky and usually they turn me down. I fed up with dealing with them really. I decided to look philippines, Angeles city and cebu but because of covid I still couldn't go. As well as I read, Pina girls are not so picky and stuck up. Is it true? Or pina girls prefer Koreans over farangs?

Which city is better to stay long term? Cebu?Before you move maybe get a bariatric sleeve. I did and dropped 40 kg.

[Engine Driver]

Thank you.

I am living in Thailand for more than 3 years. I apparently will move to Philippines after Covid restrictions. The problem in Thailand is attitude of girls. I have no problems with prices if girls are ok enough but, prices and attitudes are going opposite ways in Thailand.

I am 40 years old a big (fat) man and for me very very difficult to find young and nice Thai girls. They are too picky and usually they turn me down. I fed up with dealing with them really. I decided to look philippines, Angeles city and cebu but because of covid I still couldn't go. As well as I read, Pina girls are not so picky and stuck up. Is it true? Or pina girls prefer Koreans over farangs?

Which city is better to stay long term? Cebu?You will not have anything to worry about. Filipinas love fat blokes. The fatter the better. In the Philippines, which is a dirt poor country, being fat means you are well fed and are extremely rich. Girls will come flocking to you in order to share your wealth. They will keep saying "gwapo" which means handsome. They will also think you are cute. Being fat however, means that you can't fuck them missionary. It is not good to accidentally crush a 45 kg spinner. It is better to lie on your back and get one spinner to ride you cowgirl, while her 18-year old cousin sits on your face while you feast on fresh tuna.

There is no need to go on a diet or get bariatric surgery as you will then lose your unique selling point. Pfft. Who wants to be skinny in the Philippines?

[Kiev Freak]

Before you move maybe get a bariatric sleeve. I did and dropped 40 kg.

Can you still drink beer normally?

[GDreams]

Can you still drink beer normally?I've have never drunk beer, never liked it. Your ability to drink is slowed as there is limited storage in the stomach. Very difficult to eat and drink at the same time.

[Bienenstich]

Sad to see airfare prices mooning. Seems like November earliest for me which is still 35 percent over normal price. Hopefully no domestic travel restrictions night curfew and mask mandates by then.

[WestCoast1]

To everyone about to ask newb questions (What is the best city? Where are the best girls? These are legit questions, but the 2-year timespan of the pandemic means we (the old guard) don't have solid answers anymore. Most BM's on this board have been living / staying in just one place during the pandemic, and the girlie scene has been upended / changed, meaning we don't have good answers to these questions.


SNIP Which city is better to stay long term? Cebu?This is difficult to answer. The normal response would be to tell you to RTTF, but its been so long since quality field reports have been posted, that RTTF would take you weeks.

For AC, read the reports of Ghost and Beavis, and / or contact them in PM for specific questions. For Cebu, contact Mdeade. For Manila, Muttley. You can PM myself also.


SNIP I decided to look philippines, Angeles city and cebu but because of covid I still couldn't go. As well as I read, Pina girls are not so picky and stuck up. Is it true? Or pina girls prefer Koreans over farangs? Again hard to answer. IMHO, pinay are less picky than other girls (and they speak more English than other nations). Are you looking for bargirls? Regular girls? For bargirls, anyone can get what they want, even if the girls prefer a different type of guy. Anything can be arranged for cash.

For regular girls, again its difficult to answer. Some girls like this type of guy (a guy of this age, this income level, this race, or this country), some like other types of guys. Just like girls in any countries. Speaking only for myself, I love Phils because the girls seem to throw their panty at me relatively quickly.

[Kiev Freak]

Thank you for your answer. I will come and see several city and if all ok I will move PHP soon. Thailand is now Really big headache about p4 p scene.

[Goferring]

Thank you for your answer. I will come and see several city and if all ok I will move PHP soon. Thailand is now Really big headache about p4 p scene.What about trying a different market in Thailand first? If hard core P4 P isn't working for you, why not go for the less commercial: part timers or girls in the street, shops, banks etc.

The good thing about PI is that many, many girls will accept a dinner or coffee and see what happens next. Perhaps try this in LOS before going to the trouble of relocating.

Of course this will not work if all you are looking for is point and click hook ups. 😜.

In terms of locations, PI can be broken down in to 4 areas. Angeles is a much smaller Pattaya type red light district with a township attached. Manila and Cebu are major cities with all the facilities you can imagine inc girls who who are very comfortable around strangers. Provincial capitals are the next size down, often very relaxing and comfortable but the girls may take some time to meet. The smaller villages are really only for guys who follow wives and girlfriends back home and want to settle down.

Good luck.

[South By Sw 3]

To everyone about to ask newb questions (What is the best city? Where are the best girls? These are legit questions, but the 2-year timespan of the pandemic means we (the old guard) don't have solid answers anymore I was in Cebu just before Christmas 2018. I've got my flight booked for this month and I'm getting ready to cast the bait on Date in Asia. Looks like I'll be figuring out what works while I'm there. Happy to produce another trip report.

I've noticed over the years that the girls have gotten a lot more direct. It used to be meet them in the mall with a cousin. Now once you are in town it's just "What hotel you at?" Only 10% will negotiate the price in advance, but almost all the rest simply accept payment at the end. It's much more efficient, but a bit less fun. I've occasionally strayed to other SEA countries but always end up back in the PI.

Currently reading up the new eye dee requirements for the girls to get into a hotel (thanks WestCoast1! This seems likely to cause delays. Especially for the less professional girls that I prefer. And headaches for me to try and coordinate remotely.

[RakSopheni]

Currently reading up the new eye dee requirements for the girls to get into a hotel (thanks WestCoast1! This seems likely to cause delays. Especially for the less professional girls that I prefer. And headaches for me to try and coordinate remotely.Just curious, is the reason board members on this thread always refer to identification cards as "eye dee" just a charming stylistic vernacular, or is there a pox on using abbreviations like "ID" for legitimate script processing reasons?

[South By Sw 3]

Just curious, is the reason board members on this thread always refer to identification cards as "eye dee" just a charming stylistic vernacular, or is there a pox on using abbreviations like "ID" for legitimate script processing reasons?Good question. I saw it was a convention in the recent posts so I just followed like a sheep. I do know that "ID" has been used in other reports, so I don't think there is a coding issue. However, the site search engine won't accept short entries like that. I saw a report that mentioned a sign on a desk that said "eye dee," but I don't know if that is the origin of the practice. Quick search only shows it in the Philippines forum. As with so many things WestCoast1 may know the answer.

[WestCoast1]

Just curious, is the reason board members on this thread always refer to identification cards as "eye dee" just a charming stylistic vernacular, or is there a pox on using abbreviations like "ID" for legitimate script processing reasons?Well shiver me-timbers. Previously the Board's software turned ID into something like: I'the (or such). I just started using eye dee instead. Also the second and third letters of the alphabet (standing alone), as in A, B, and C, turned into A, 'be', and 'see'. To change those, one had to post first, then use the 'edit' function to fix the Board's error. The ID part appears to be fixed. Kudos Admin for saving me 4 keystrokes each time.

[Goferring]

A, B, and C, turned into A, 'be', and 'see'. To change those, one had to post first, then use the 'edit' function to fix the Board's error....You learn something new ever day. 😁.

I never edited the auto correct but I was double typing to get around it: "She had magnificent CC cups. " Good to read that this is no longer required.

I'll admit some of the auto texts did take some deciphering.

[Muttley81]

Well shiver me-timbers. Previously the Board's software turned ID into something like: I'the (or such). I just started using eye dee instead. Also the second and third letters of the alphabet (standing alone), as in A, B, and C, turned into A, 'be', and 'see'. To change those, one had to post first, then use the 'edit' function to fix the Board's error. The ID part appears to be fixed. Kudos Admin for saving me 4 keystrokes each time.Haha! This is great, I've always wondered why it was done but not cared quite enough to ask.

[MamaGuevos]

And here is the link for the eye dee and the app: https://www.postalidph.com/.

Postal eye dee security features:

On-site digital capture of fingerprints, photo, signature and personal details,
centralized ID printing and database to guarantee that the cards are authentic,
encrypted QR (quick response) code printed on the card can verify the identity of ID holder using a downloadable smart-phone application,
overlaid with a hologram that can be viewed only at certain angles,
ghost image and UV ink that illuminates in UV light,
applicant uniqueness check via the Automated Fingerprint Identification System (AFIS). It compares the fingerprint collected with the fingerprint database records to ensure the applicants identity.This seems like a good thing to me. I have met many girls on DIA and Pina who had IDs, but for one reason or another, I was not certain about their age. They had IDs, but I feared that I might get scammed (like the police scam described here about a year ago), and sent them on their way. There is nothing in the world that I want less than a trip to a police station in Manila! Now all I have to do is insist on a postal ID.

I hope this is getting wide acceptance and that the girls catch on quickly. I won't be in Manila until May, and am looking forward to filling my days and nights with close encounters of the best kind!

[D Cups]

You learn something new ever day. 😁.

I never edited the auto correct but I was double typing to get around it: "She had magnificent CC cups. " Good to read that this is no longer required.

I'll admit some of the auto texts did take some deciphering.Yuh, especially for cup sizes (wink)! Hey G I'm going to PI Feb 16 man. Completing the retirement visa. How about you, buddy?

[Albert9989]

Haha! This is great, I've always wondered why it was done but not cared quite enough to ask.Hehe, thanks a lot for this question.

When Westcoast answered me, it took me some time to figure out what was eye dee!

And the I did the same without asking!

Ok, now I learn also something new!

[Albert9989]

This seems like a good thing to me. I have met many girls on DIA and Pina who had IDs, but for one reason or another, I was not certain about their age. They had IDs, but I feared that I might get scammed (like the police scam described here about a year ago), and sent them on their way. There is nothing in the world that I want less than a trip to a police station in Manila! Now all I have to do is insist on a postal ID.

I hope this is getting wide acceptance and that the girls catch on quickly. I won't be in Manila until May, and am looking forward to filling my days and nights with close encounters of the best kind!Thanks to Westie, I asked my girl in Bohol, just about when she get again her lost ID, and she told she will ask for Postal ID, so it seems that they all knows now about Postal ID.

But I didn't found how it can be delivered, neither any app to ask for it.

On the link provided I see only the list of offices where they can bring their documents, and where they can get back the ID when it is ready. I didn't find any speed up process like 1 day or week. But maybe I missed something.

Anyway, she is in the process to request it. I will see that.

[WestCoast1]

This seems like a good thing to me. I have met many girls on DIA and Pina who had IDs, but for one reason or another, I was not certain about their age. They had IDs, but I feared that I might get scammed (like the police scam described here about a year ago), and sent them on their way. There is nothing in the world that I want less than a trip to a police station in Manila! Now all I have to do is insist on a postal ID.

I hope this is getting wide acceptance and that the girls catch on quickly. I won't be in Manila until May, and am looking forward to filling my days and nights with close encounters of the best kind!There were a plethora of ways to get fake ID's before, in the provinces and NCR. My fav was when one of my provincial gals (posted in the PG) wanted an ID and she told me the place where she was getting it (p350). Later when I was walking in the area one day I walked into the business. Their legit business is as a printing shop. I saw a lady walk in and ask for an ID. The clerk took the lady's pic with his phone, connected the phone to a computer with a cable, transferred the pic to the computer, and printed the pic on paper. He cut the pic to size (about 1" square). He took another pre-cut piece of thick paper and with an ink pen, he hand-wrote: "PhilHeath", and "Maria DeLa Cruz" underneath it. He put a piece of tape on the picture and taped it to the thick new PhilHealth card and handed it to her. That was it. She paid and walked out, happy with what I thought was the worst fake ID ever. Nobody would think that was a real PhilHealth card. Previously my gal and I had been turned down at bars because she looked too young. BUT, my girl got a similar crappy fake one, and we used it at several bars / hotels successfully.

With the advent of hard plastic and holograms, me-thinks those days are over.

[South By Sw 3]

it seems that they all knows now about Postal ID.Good to hear. I'll have to add Postal ID to my dating site chat topics.

[Goferring]

Yuh, especially for cup sizes (wink)! Hey G I'm going to PI Feb 16 man. Completing the retirement visa. How about you, buddy?Good luck. Could be a while for me as I need to get numerous things lined up to make it happen.

[Albert9989]

Good to hear. I'll have to add Postal ID to my dating site chat topics.Yes, I think we can ask them to send a picture to check, at least, if their ID look like the postal ID.

[Dg8787]

Just read an article that tourist arriving February 10th and thereafter are required to show proof of medical insurance coverage of a minimum of US $35,000 which includes covid coverage during their stay in PH.

United Airlines insurance only covers up to $10,000 medical.

Does anyone know about this?

Anyone know how to get $35,000 coverage?

Anyone know how to bump up United coverage to $35,000?

[Dg8787]

Good to hear. I'll have to add Postal ID to my dating site chat topics.Postal ID costs about 500 pesos and approximately 2 weeks to process per my pinay contact.

[Dg8787]

Just read an article that tourist arriving February 10th and thereafter are required to show proof of medical insurance coverage of a minimum of US $35,000 which includes covid coverage during their stay in PH.

United Airlines insurance only covers up to $10,000 medical.

Does anyone know about this?

Anyone know how to get $35,000 coverage?

Anyone know how to bump up United coverage to $35,000?Update:

Upon searching online for Travel and Medical Insurance I found policies ranging $187 -$300 for minimum $50,000 coverage. United Airlines policy with $10 k coverage thru Allaniz cost $95. Online with Allaniz $50 k coverage cost $187.

So it is doable. Just be aware of the requirement.

[Albert9989]

Update:

Upon searching online for Travel and Medical Insurance I found policies ranging $187 -$300 for minimum $50,000 coverage. United Airlines policy with $10 k coverage thru Allaniz cost $95. Online with Allaniz $50 k coverage cost $187.

So it is doable. Just be aware of the requirement.I just gave a check on the insurance linked to my credit card, N26, and it covers medical expenses up to 1.000.000 € including Covid, plus many other risks.

The card is not free, 10€/ month but this insurance seems to comply to the requirements.

No need for an extra insurance.

[Dg8787]

I just gave a check on the insurance linked to my credit card, N26, and it covers medical expenses up to 1.000.000 including Covid, plus many other risks.

The card is not free, 10/ month but this insurance seems to comply to the requirements.

No need for an extra insurance.Good for you.

My card does not provide medical insurance.

[Albert9989]

Good for you.

My card does not provide medical insurance.Yes, but maybe you could upgrade your card or from another bank to get this coverage.

Unless it doesn't exist in your country.

This could be less costly than a specific insurance.

[South By Sw 3]

Postal ID costs about 500 pesos and approximately 2 weeks to process per my pinay contact.It's a problem. I'm not going to send money to someone I never met. So they'd have to spend money for some joker on the Internet who may never show up. At least they'll have an ID. Doubt they'd go for expedited service if I'm not already there on the ground, though.

Looks like I'll have to setup a dating profile earlier than I usually would. Normally a week before I arrive is plenty of time to schedule a starting line up. Plus I avoid turning into a pinay pen pal.

South By Sw 3 (and 2).

[J Janni]

Just read an article that tourist arriving February 10th and thereafter are required to show proof of medical insurance coverage of a minimum of US $35,000 which includes covid coverage during their stay in PH.

United Airlines insurance only covers up to $10,000 medical.

Does anyone know about this?

Anyone know how to get $35,000 coverage?

Anyone know how to bump up United coverage to $35,000?I used insurance by Safety Wings to get into Phuket last year.

100 k coverage inc covid, for my age it was about 35 usd a month.

[Goferring]

It's good that PI is technically opening and I love Pina pussy as much as the next guy. However, Additional insurance requirements; Risks of getting sick with limited medical backup; Hotel lockouts; ID restrictions; Girls' inability to travel; Difficulty to travel between provinces; a constantly changing and nonsensical list of rules?? Some guys must be desperate to get laid. 😜.

I'm waiting until it returns to much more user friendly.

[GoodEnough]

It's good that PI is technically opening and I love Pina pussy as much as the next guy. However, Additional insurance requirements; Risks of getting sick with limited medical backup; Hotel lockouts; ID restrictions; Girls' inability to travel; Difficulty to travel between provinces; a constantly changing and nonsensical list of rules?? Some guys must be desperate to get laid. 😜.

I'm waiting until it returns to much more user friendly.Let's add to that the uncertainty about whether the 30 day tourist visa can be extended. According to some, at this point, there's no intention to extend it beyond 30 days, but I've no idea if that's definitive. However, it might be a point worth checking for those thinking of staying longer.

GE.

[Sammon]

It's good that PI is technically opening and I love Pina pussy as much as the next guy. However, Additional insurance requirements; Risks of getting sick with limited medical backup; Hotel lockouts; ID restrictions; Girls' inability to travel; Difficulty to travel between provinces; a constantly changing and nonsensical list of rules?? Some guys must be desperate to get laid. 😜.

I'm waiting until it returns to much more user friendly.I am of the same opinion. Was thinking of making a trip to see my long waiting virgin. Still says she is and waiting. Have been chatting with others also. I did some research and found many restrictions. Besides the hotels who were girfriendly may not be anymore for now. Travel restrictions maybe in place including proof of vaccination and temp check and such.

Have some credit from cancelled flights and plan to wait till October. Hopefully by then things should be back to normal unless another varient pops it's ugly head.

[WestCoast1]

Moved to Gen Info from AC thread.


After exiting the arrivals area of the airport I climb upstairs to the departures and find a cab which has just left off a passenger. I offer the driver 2,000 p to take me to my hotel in AC. The driver pays tolls and gas. No taxi driver has ever refused. There was a time when I offered less. I take an iPhone photo of the driver and the vehicle, making sure the driver sees me doing this, so as to discourage the driver from any funny business. During the ride I float the idea that on his return trip the driver should stop by the Dau bus terminal and see if he can find a group of riders waiting to take a bus who may be willing to pay a little extra for door to door service to Manila.This is good advice.

In addition to going to AC, I have utilized the upstairs departures taxis to my hotel many times. Those drivers have no ride as they depart the airport departure parking area. The driver's choice: Drive back to the lower level and get into the arrivals taxi queue, or else back into the city looking for rides on the street (as he was probably doing when he picked up his airport fare). I often times tell the upstairs / departure driver p200 to my hotel, whether Malate or Makati (p300 during heavier traffic times, Monday-Saturday 12 noon to 9 pm). Its $6 stinking dollars to get to your hotel / condo. After a long-haul flight, that's small. Yes, of course the metered fare might be p100 less, but who cares? This is a faster method than walking outside at the downstairs arrivals area and getting into the taxi queue. Almost every driver agreed to my amount. On rare occasion when a driver balked, just let him drive off, there will be another right behind him who will accept the fare.

Another faster alternative for a taxi is to stay at the downstairs arrival area and get a private car to your hotel (p800-1200 is not unusual, but you get a larger van usually where you can stretch out and rest, and there is no dickering on the price).

[WestCoast1]

Let's add to that the uncertainty about whether the 30 day tourist visa can be extended.


It's good that PI is technically opening and I love Pina pussy as much as the next guy. However, Additional insurance requirements; Risks of getting sick with limited medical backup; Hotel lockouts; ID restrictions; Girls' inability to travel; Difficulty to travel between provinces; a constantly changing and nonsensical list of rules?? Some guys must be desperate to get laid. 😜.

I'm waiting until it returns to much more user friendly.


I am confident the ice cream eating imbecile will not enjoy himself.Is there a male name for 'Karen'?


My advice to anyone considering coming here is to wait for another 4-6 weeks during which time the rules may be relaxed slightly and recreational facilities may start to open again. Right now, this city is not a lot of fun.Tip of the spear. . . Tip of the spear. . .

[The Rose]

I read the following advice on this forum many years ago: taxis which are moving through traffic hunting for the next fare will always be less expensive than the taxi which is stationary and waiting for a fare, like the taxi waiting outside the hotel for exiting hotel guests. In the latter situation the passenger will have to pay more in order to makeup for the time the driver wasted while waiting. This makes crystal clear sense.

[Goferring]

Is there a male name for 'Karen'?Yes. Kevin.

[Dg8787]

After some thinking it is wise for tourist to have medical insurance. I would increase coverage to $50,000 - $100,000.

In PH if you do test positive they can confine you to a hospital. If you are positive then it is best to be confined to a very good hospital like St. Luke in BGC or Makati Medical Hospital. Of course these hospitals are expensive especially if they know you have insurance. $35,000 coverage may not be enough in severe cases. Best to have more coverage and to be able to select a good hospital. Most plans have medical transportation coverage. Personally if I was severely ill I would opt for a flight to a hospital in Guam where my Medicare insurance would be in effect.

All depends on how much you value your life.

[DzikaBomba]

After some thinking it is wise for tourist to have medical insurance. I would increase coverage to $50,000 - $100,000.

In PH if you do test positive they can confine you to a hospital. If you are positive then it is best to be confined to a very good hospital like St. Luke in BGC or Makati Medical Hospital. Of course these hospitals are expensive especially if they know you have insurance. $35,000 coverage may not be enough in severe cases. Best to have more coverage and to be able to select a good hospital. Most plans have medical transportation coverage. Personally if I was severely ill I would opt for a flight to a hospital in Guam where my Medicare insurance would be in effect.

All depends on how much you value your life.Its not if you want, but you have to get an insurance!

They are requiring an insurance covering up to 35 k $ from tourists now from now on:

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1167073

They are covering it from Thailand I think.

They also have this obligatory insurance.

[Pekkakoo]

Well insurance is not a big problem. I have a continuous travel insurance from Europe which I pay yearly and they cover all hospital fees and there is no limit. So as long as there is space in better hospitals I should be fine in case of covid.

I'm more concerned about condos and hotels and their policies. It wouldn't be fun if no visitors were allowed in. Usually I have stayed in an airbnb in Makati Manila but this time maybe BGC would be better.

I have vacation all March so maybe it would be best still to wait before booking what happens right?

[FuriousGeorge]

Pretty dumb since your chance of being hospitalized from covid after being vaccinated and boosted is essentially zero. Now, dying in a trike accident in the Philippines? I put those chances at one in three.

Any legit insurance (I. E. Blue Shield) has you covered internationally.

[D Cups]

Pretty dumb since your chance of being hospitalized from covid after being vaccinated and boosted is essentially zero. Now, dying in a trike accident in the Philippines? I put those chances at one in three.

Any legit insurance (I. E. Blue Shield) has you covered internationally.I signed up with safetywing insurance. $144.76/ month but I will drop as soon as I can. Arriving PH Feb 17.

[Albert9989]

New check on flight costs and surprise, they look to be really interesting now, same level as before, even better.

Here from France to manila.

[Nightrider1]

As I am on the close side of 80 now I can't wait like you younger guys. How many humps do I have left?? Better to not tary any longer is my feeling. Even if there are issues happening I am going in March. I do have to find a medical insurance plan. Someone here mentioned safetywing ins so I will inquire or maybe travelguard is another possibility. I will stock up on KN95 masks and have already asked the apartment manager in cebu what the visitor policy is. Vacinated are welcome inside. I am wondering if its even enforced. Time will tell. I could not book flights with my fav airlines Koreon Air and Cathay Pacific for early March so went to booking.com and going various airlines with more stops than I like but whatever. I usually roam around to many cities on my Phil trips but maybe this time in the interest of less stress I will stay in cebu and bring the chatmates there. After more than 2 years without a trip I have a lot of pesos saved. Good luck to us all.

[PedroMorales]

1. Near 80 and still in the saddle? How do you manage it? I am debating meeting a hooker tomorrow and am unsure I can perform. If you can handle all the flight changes ok but be wary of scraper sites.

2. Scraper sites: Please ensure you are ok here. Let's say you are going from LAX to Manila after your booking.com search. It is often, almost always, best to book the flights with the airlines and not with booking.com or a scraper site.


As I am on the close side of 80 now I can't wait like you younger guys. How many humps do I have left?? Better to not tary any longer is my feeling. Even if there are issues happening I am going in March. I do have to find a medical insurance plan. Someone here mentioned safetywing ins so I will inquire or maybe travelguard is another possibility. I will stock up on KN95 masks and have already asked the apartment manager in cebu what the visitor policy is. Vacinated are welcome inside. I am wondering if its even enforced. Time will tell. I could not book flights with my fav airlines Koreon Air and Cathay Pacific for early March so went to booking.com and going various airlines with more stops than I like but whatever. I usually roam around to many cities on my Phil trips but maybe this time in the interest of less stress I will stay in cebu and bring the chatmates there. After more than 2 years without a trip I have a lot of pesos saved. Good luck to us all.

[Dashing Don]

As I am on the close side of 80 now I can't wait like you younger guys. How many humps do I have left?? Better to not tary any longer is my feeling. Even if there are issues happening I am going in March. I do have to find a medical insurance plan. Someone here mentioned safetywing ins so I will inquire or maybe travelguard is another possibility. I will stock up on KN95 masks and have already asked the apartment manager in cebu what the visitor policy is. Vacinated are welcome inside. I am wondering if its even enforced. Time will tell. I could not book flights with my fav airlines Koreon Air and Cathay Pacific for early March so went to booking.com and going various airlines with more stops than I like but whatever. I usually roam around to many cities on my Phil trips but maybe this time in the interest of less stress I will stay in cebu and bring the chatmates there. After more than 2 years without a trip I have a lot of pesos saved. Good luck to us all.Great attitude Nightrider. You're right. The time is now. By the time the timid and cautious get the all clear, there'll be talk of skyrocketing stds or some other bogeyman.

I just booked the covid insurance with an outfit called Seven Corners. $33! A two-minute phone call and they emailed me the certificate while I was on the phone with the guy. $100 K coverage. While the trip is from the 16th to 28th they emailed me a one-page doc that said coverage began Feb 8--28.

Be clear that you're declining 'travel insurance' regarding flights etc. My sense was that that's where their real business is. Unless you want that.

As with all insurance, the devil is in the details. Perhaps there are some here that are actually interested in being covered. I was clear that I just wanted a piece of paper to present to Phil immigration and be greeted with a 'Mabuhay' and be on my way.

[Albert9989]

New check on flight costs and surprise, they look to be really interesting now, same level as before, even better.

Here from France to manila.Sorry, wrong post. Prices for Manila are still not very good.

[Goferring]

2. Scraper sites: Please ensure you are ok here. Let's say you are going from LAX to Manila after your booking.com search. It is often, almost always, best to book the flights with the airlines and not with booking.com or a scraper site.+1. I've never had an easy run with aggregators should there be any problems at all or if I want changes. Much easier dealing directly with the airlines. Just use Google Flights to find the best prices and times for the dates around when you want to fly.

[WestCoast1]

Moved from AC to Gen Info.


So Gentlemen, let me ask you a question: Do we really need those documents? There are hardly any information about this, so I hope some experienced guys here can clarify.


Otherwise you can search online for actual Philippines tourist requirements. Be sure to check with country is yours.Probably the authority on this is the Bureau of Immigration. Other multiple government agencies and news outlets will pump out conflicting advice. Checking the BI website:

https://immigration.gov.ph/

From the Immigration website, a press release from February 6. https://immigration.gov.ph/images/News/2022_Yr/02_Feb/2022Feb06_Press.pdf

In its entirety (entry requirements in italics):

PRESS RELEASE
2022 February 06
Vaccinated aliens now allowed in PH

MANILA, PhilippinesThe Bureau of Immigration (BI) announced that it will be
implementing the new policy from the government expanding the categories of aliens
allowed to enter the country.

In an advisory, BI Commissioner Jaime Morente stated that following the recent
resolution from the Inter-Agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging Infectious
Diseases (IATF), all fully vaccinated aliens may be allowed to enter the Philippines starting
February 10.

Morente clarified that those nationals from the 157 countries listed under
Executive No. 408, series of 1960 as amended and other nationalities covered by related
Foreign Service Circulars may be allowed to enter the country visa free, while those who
are visa-required must secure an entry visa and an Entry Exemption Document (EED) from
the nearest Philippine consulate or embassy.

Arriving fully-vaccinated aliens would, however, need to present proof of
vaccination as approved by the IATF, a negative RT-PCR result valid for 48 hours prior to
departure from country of origin, and a travel insurance for Covid-19, with a minimum
coverage of USD 35k, valid for the duration of their stay in the country, which will be
presented to the airlines upon check-in.

Arriving tourists are also required to have a passport valid for at least 6 months and
an outbound ticket.

The IATF resolution stated that those whose proof of vaccinations cannot be
confirmed will be subjected to a facility-based quarantine until the release of their
negative RT-PCR test taken on the 5th day.

Morente clarified that unvaccinated foreign nationals, regardless of visa type, will
not be allowed entry.

Following the direction of the IATF, unvaccinated and partially vaccinated aliens
will not be allowed entry, said Morente. Only those who are fully vaccinated may be
admitted, he added.

Morente said that unvaccinated foreign nationals and those who are unable to
present the required documents will be excluded and will be boarded in the next available
flight back to their port of origin.

He also urged airlines to board only eligible foreign nationals, and warned that
those who board ineligible aliens will be subjected to fines and sanctions.

[WestCoast1]

And there is a Philippines Bureau of Quarantine:

https://quarantine.doh.gov.ph/

Where we get a list of Suitable for Mandatory Quarantine facilities in the NCR. Bet you will recognize some. This list has 193 facilities, and a second list of Suitable for Stringent Quarantine has 183 more residences. One of the first on the list is A-Venue. Several of these were either next door to, or just up the street from some of my residences in the last year. Check out all those Sogos, Red Planets, and Victoria Courts.

https://quarantine.doh.gov.ph/boq-allowed-and-dot-accredited-quarantine-facilities-as-of-january-28-2022/

FACILITIES SUITABLE ONLY FOR MANDATORY QUARANTINE:

5880 Enriquez Residences.

A Venue Residences (Tower) Condominium.

Achievers Airport Hotel, Pasay.

Airport Poddotel Inc.

Aliw-Inn Pasay.

Amore Hotel.

Antoine Despacito.

Artina Zobel Residences (Formerly Artina Suites Hotel).

Aruga by Rockwell.

Arzo Hotel and ResortsInc, Makati.

Astoria Plaza, Ortigas.

Astrotel Avenida.

Astrotel- Novaliches.

Astrotel, Monumento.

Axiaa, West Ave. Q. see.

Be Hotel, Alabang.

Balesin Island Club.

Bay Area Suites, Manila.

Bayview Park Hotel, Manila.

Bellagio Residences Leon Guinto.

Bellagio Residences Kapiligan.

Bellagio Residences Katipunan.

Bellagio Residences Sampaloc.

Benson Apartelle, San Juan City.

Bigpat Dormitory, Pasay.

Cadence Ann Condotel, Makati.

Camelot Hotel.

Casa Micarosa Hotels and Residences Co, Ltd, Malate.

Chill Hotel Monumento.

Citizen Hotel, Makati.

Citystate Hotel Quiapo.

Cool Martin Hotel and Resorts.

Cosmo Hotel and Studio Suites Dos Castillas Sampaloc.

Country Lodge Pasig.

Crosswind Ocean Hotel.

The Circle Hotel, Manila.

Daisy Drive Inn Pasig.

DG Budget Hotel Salem.

DG Grami Hotel, Paranaque.

Dians Place / Dian Suites, Palanan Makati.

Eco Verde Hotel, Quezon City.

EL Rancho, Alabang.

Elegance Guest House, Pasay.

Eurotel, North EDSA.

Fersal Hotel, Kalayaan.

Fersal Hotel, P. Tuazon.

Fersal Inn Makati.

Fersal Inn Manila.

Festive Hotel, Makati.

G Square Residences.

Garden Plaza Suite.

Gardenia Terrace Motel.

Getz Hotel, Sta. Cruz Manila.

Gomez House by Hotel Durban, Makati.

Good 101 Quiapo.

Gran Prix Hotel, Pasay.

Grand Lodge Hotel by Arzo, Manila.

Guijo Suites Makati.

Haeinsa Condotel, Quezon City.

Halina Drive Inn Hotel Sta. Mesa.

Halina Hotel Avenida.

Halina Hotel Libertad.

Happy Homes, Manila.

Heroes Hotel, Sta. Ana Manila.

Holiday Inn Express Manila Newport City.

Hop Inn Hotel Alabang.

Hop Inn Hotel Makati.

Hotel 99 Cubao.

Hotel 99 Monumento.

Hotel 99 Quiapo.

Hotel Dreamworld Araneta.

Hotel Dreamworld Las Pinas.

Hotel Dreamworld North EDSA.

Hotel Durban, Makati.

Hotel Juliano, Ermita Mla.

Hotel Rosemarie.

Hotel Sogo Avenida.

Hotel Sogo Buendia Pasay Blvd.

Hotel Sogo Caloocan.

Hotel Sogo Makati.

Hotel Sogo Malibay.

Hotel Sogo Monumento.

Hotel Sogo Novaliches.

Hotel Sogo Pasay Rotonda.

Hotel Sogo Quezon Avenue.

Hotel Sogo Quirino.

Hotel Sogo Recto.

Hotel Sogo Sta. Mesa.

Hotel Victoria de Malate.

HQ Albert, Makati.

IHotel Uptown BGC (Zen Premium Uptown BGC, Makati).

Infinity Tower Suites.

Inn De Avenida, Makati.

Jade Vine Restaurant and Executive Inn, Ermita.

Jardin de Rosal- Pasig.

Jinjiang Inn, Makati.

Jinjiang Inn, Ortigas.

Joy Nostalg.

Joyce Apartelle Mandaluyong.

Joyce Apartelle San Juan.

King Arthur Hotel- Pasig.

Lelita Hotel, Makati.

Lido de Paris Hotel, Manila.

Liza Lodge, Pasay.

MagCOOP House.

Malate Pensionne Inc.

Manila Venetian Hotel.

Mariposa Hotel, Marcos Hi way, Pasig.

MC Hotel- Novaliches / Hotel Fox Oyo 637.

Melbourne Residences.

Metro Deluxe Residences, Pasay.

Mini Suites Eton Tower- Makati.

Miramar Hotel.

MM Hotel (RedDoorz Plus near Bamboo Organ).

MySpace Hotel BGC.

MyTown Amsterdam, Makati.

MyTown Athens, Makati.

MyTown Auckland, Makati.

MyTown Capetown, Makati.

MyTown Istanbul.

MyTown Kyoto, Makati.

MyTown New York, Makati.

MyTown Seoul, Makati.

MyTown Singapore.

Nest Nano Poblacion Makati.

New York Hotel Inc, Cubao.

Nice Hotel Pasig.

Nice Hotel- Arayat Cubao.

Nice Hotel- Aurora Cubao.

Nice Hotel- Mandaluyong.

Nice Hotel- Mc Arthur.

Nice Hotel- Monumento Samson Road.

One Liberty Hotel.

One Pacific Place Serviced Residences, Makati.

Orchid Garden Suites Manila.

Oxford Suites Makati.

OYO Finnex Hotel, Mandaluyong.

Pacific Skyloft Hotel.

Paragon Tower Ermita Hotel, Inc.

Park Bed and Breakfast, Pasay.

Pasig View Lodge.

Pearl Lane Hotel reinspected 5/13/2021.

Propiedad Hotel.

Punta De Fabian Resort, Inc. Baras Rizal.

Quoalla Hotel Makati.

Ralph Anthony Suites, Ermita.

Ranch Hotel / EL rancho- Tunasan, Muntinlupa.

Red Hotel Cubao.

Red Planet Hotel Amorsolo Makati.

Red Planet Hotels, Binondo Corporation.

Red Planet Hotel Manila Bay.

Reddoorz the' Builders Room Phase 2 Taguig (Arnelito be Garcia Transient House).

RedDoorz at Canley Residential, Pasig (Canley Residential Condo Unit Rental).

RedDoorz near Pasay Taft (Residencia San Vicente).

RedDoorz Plus near Osmea Highway 2 (Sheikah's Guesthouse Traveller's Inn).

Richmonde Hotel, Eastwood.

Riviera Mansion, Malate.

Rosas Garden Hotel.

Rose Garden Inn Sta. Mesa.

Rothman Hotel, Malate.

San Carlos Mansion, Manila.

Solaire Resort and Casino.

Somerset Millenium, Makati.

Spaces by Eco Hotel, Makati.

Spring Hotel Avenida.

Spring Hotel Cubao.

Starlight Bed and Breakfast.

Stonehouse Hotel- Ermita.

Stonehouse Hotel- Pasay.

Tesoro Apartments, Ermita.

The Bayleaf Intramuros.

The Cabin, Manila.

The District Inn, Makati.

The Peninsula Manila.

Time Travellers Hotel Manila.

Town and Country Hotel- V. Mapa.

Town and Country Reposo.

Tropicana Suites.

University Pad Residences Taft.

University Pad Residences Ubelt.

Victoria Court- Cuneta.

Victoria Court- Hill Crest.

Victoria Court- North Edsa.

Victoria Court- Mc. Arthur.

Victoria Court- Panorama.

Vista Hotel Recto.

White Knight St. Anne.

Winston Hotel.

Yuj Inn Pasay.

Z Hostel, Poblacion Makati.

Zen Premium Eastwood / Hotel 878 QC.

Zen Premium near Rockwell Makati.

Zen Rooms Marvelle Studios, BGC, Makati.

[Goferring]

Probably the authority on this is the Bureau of Immigration. Other multiple government agencies and news outlets will pump out conflicting advice. There is likely to be a big difference between what is formally required and the message that filters down to the 1000 people in brown shirts.

If someome wants to argue with every immigration, heath, random guy that doesn't like the colour of his shoes, about minimum requirements then good luck to them. I'm going to err on the side of caution and take a print out of everything I might possibly need.

I've seen too many Sovereign Citizens come totally unstuck.

Enjoy. G.

[South By Sw 3]

Good luck to us all.Nightrider (and Dashing Don): Agreed. I may overlap with NR in Cebu. Doubt I can keep up with him, though.

Everyone has to make their own calculation. For my part it is: Late nights and bars are not my thing. I can accept the rules on the ground and figure out how to adjust while I'm there. As long as there are ways to get a girl (or two) into a hotel and I can still have decent meal. That's good enough for me.

Perhaps the Philippines will a monger's paradise in a few months. I certainly hope so. But given how quickly variants can pop up and shut down international travel, there's some uncertainly even in late February travel. Ultimately it's an adventure and at least others on the forum can learn from my mistakes.

- South By Sw 3 / 2.

[JonesLover]

Hi,

I will reach Davao in March for one month and I'd like to ask a question.

I'd like to rent an apartment on the Mindanao coastal area in front of Samal.

I would not like to rent it in Davao center. In fact if I wil rent on the coastal area, I will be facilitated to reach Samal several times.

But the most important thing for me is to know if that area is a good or if it is better to get an apartment in Davao center.

I hope someone knows that area.

Thanks for your kind info.

[Steve Nash]

I've been to so many condos the last 2+ months in Manila, Cebu and Negros. And none of them gave me any problems in bringing girls to my room, the worst that had happened is that they were asked for their ID and had to sign a form saying that they don't have any of the COVID symptoms, but many of them didn't even get asked for anything because they came in with me.

One advice, is follow all the rules that you need to fill-up or you need to bring when you arrive in Philippines, even if you need to download an app, do it, now here everything is online so you either have to fill-up forms on your phone, or download an app. The Health Pass is very important, that's where you need to download your Vaccine certificate and COVID test result (as a screenshot or have it ready as a file). When I came here the first week of December (to my bad luck they changed to strict rules a day earlier because of the new variant), and I forgot to fill-up the Health Pass, so I tried to fill-up the form on my cell in Manila airport and I kept getting an error, so I asked for help to one of the airport reps, he also kept getting the same error, the problem was the airport wifi was so slow and it kept getting stuck. So they had to fill-up the form manually, anyways to make it short, the person filling-up manually made a mistake (maybe did it in purpose) and put that I don't have a Vaccine certificate, and just because of that I had to stay afew days longer in the quarantine hotel (I think it was 3 or 4 days longer, I forgot), of course, I ended up complaining from the hotel and they change it (after a dozens of phone calls and text, hard to make it change when I don't have load and I had to borrow a phone from the receptionist). Another thing, if you are planning to travel between provinces, you will have to fill-up an online form on your cellphone similar to the Health Pass, but more simple and easier to fill-up, is call S-Pass.

By the way, there will be a chance you will get your COVID test result late in the day like at night or late afternoon like I did (the COVID test you will do inside the quarantine hotel), and you may have to stay another day in the quarantine hotel because is hard to find a last minute room within a hour or two, but not worries, since you have a negative COVID result, you can bring a guess there, I only had to change of room (my quarantine room was a single bed room), so I got a bigger room with a queen bed and I could bring anyone I want, my friend had to show her ID and fill up a form that she doesn't have any symptoms, and that's it!

So guys don't worry about bringing girls to your condo. I don't know how strict hotels are, because I only stayed in airbnb condos, cheap condos from 1,000 php per night up to average price condos (the nice ones with big pools / gym around mall of asia) that cost me around 2,000 php per night, all of them never gave me problems bringing girls. Actually I did stayed in one hotel in Negros a small city / port there, the hotel was a nice one with pool and gym, and they didn't even asked my friend for ID or to fill-up anything.

Worse case scenario if you still are afraid to bring girls, just get a house all for yourself and you will never have problems there even if you bring 2-3 girls per day, just be discreet about it without being loud or drunk.

[WestCoast1]

Another thing, if you are planning to travel between provinces, you will have to fill-up an online form on your cellphone similar to the Health Pass, but more simple and easier to fill-up, is call S-Pass.Go team Steve. I posted previously the link to S-Pass. The SPass website has a list of cities where you can travel, and any restrictions to / from each city, and it is updated regularly.


So guys don't worry about bringing girls to your condo. I don't know how strict hotels are, because I only stayed in airbnb condos, cheap condos from 1,000 php per night up to average price condos (the nice ones with big pools / gym around mall of asia) that cost me around 2,000 php per night, all of them never gave me problems bringing girls. Actually I did stayed in one hotel in Negros a small city / port there, the hotel was a nice one with pool and gym, and they didn't even asked my friend for ID or to fill-up anything.My experience in MNL is in contrast (and at different times). Some residences would not allow additional guests (more than your ONE registered guest) inside at any time. Others allowed 1 additional guest during the daytime (9 am-5 pm-ish) only, and only during less-strict ECQ / Alert-Level times.

[Steve Nash]

Go team Steve. I posted previously the link to S-Pass. The SPass website has a list of cities where you can travel, and any restrictions to / from each city, and it is updated regularly.Cool that you posted their website!

I'm so used to it now filling up that form, I don't know how many times I filled up.

An advise about filling-up that form, if sometimes you are going to a strict city (Alert Level 3 or up), and the S-Pass won't allow you, just ask a friend for her address in a city close by that is Alert level 2 or better, or you can put a hotel you stayed in that city before, I did that before and they never check.


My experience in MNL is in contrast (and at different times). Some residences would not allow additional guests (more than your ONE registered guest) inside at any time. Others allowed 1 additional guest during the daytime (9 am-5 pm-ish) only, and only during less-strict ECQ / Alert-Level times.Something similar happened to me when I rent a nice condo for months in Negros, they allow visitors during the day from 9 am to 10 pm only, so as long you bring a guest during those times they can stay the night (not sure if they were allow but they never said anything), but after 10 pm no guest is allow to the condo (In my case my guests were my girlfriend's family, sometimes 3 or 4 people).

So my point is if you book monthly they might have more strict rules, BUT if you book short term like in most of my airbnb condos (afew days or 1 week) they never said anything about bringing different girls everyday, sometimes I bring 2 different girls in one day and I had no problems. My guess is the security will know who is short stay and who is long stay so the building admin asked the security to be more strict with the long stay renters since they might have problems with condo owners complaining the most since they are staying for a while, but at this point I'm just speculating. Sometimes in the Mall of Asia condos they will forget I was a guest (they have so many guards changing all the time) and they will ask me are you a guest sometimes until the other guard will tell them yes he is a guest here, and they will ask my friend to give her ID and fill out the COVID symptoms form.

Like I said before if you want to bring 3 different girls in one day, then staying in a house is the safest way, I know a house in Pasay (close to the border with Makati) that I had not problems doing that on September of 2020 during GCQ.

By the way, there is not more GCQ or ECQ or MECQ in Philippines, now they have Alert level from 1 to 5 for the last 5 months. Just in case the newbies during COVID times don't get confuse.

[Dg8787]

Any mongers storming the shores of Philippines February 10 or thereafter?

[Dg8787]

I have been checking airfares and they are dropping to $1000 RT for next week. Down from $1400-1700 a week ago. Seat maps show no increase in passengers.

Booking in March are still in the $1400-1700 range with no increase passengers in the seat maps. Hopefully fares will be down to $1000 in a few weeks.

[AsianPursuits]

I have been checking airfares and they are dropping to $1000 RT for next week. Down from $1400-1700 a week ago. Seat maps show no increase in passengers.

Booking in March are still in the $1400-1700 range with no increase passengers in the seat maps. Hopefully fares will be down to $1000 in a few weeks.I've been tracking prices from SYD & BNE to MNL for the past few months. I haven't seen any change yet. In fact if anything it seems to have trended up! We really need the low cost carriers like AirAsia to start putting prices into the market.

I've written in another forum about BNE-Bali, I can get a fare for $300 return. MNL $1,200 return for the same dates. I do prefer the Filipina culture but I can also have a lot of fun with the $900 splashed on Indo girls.

[DzikaBomba]

I have been checking airfares and they are dropping to $1000 RT for next week. Down from $1400-1700 a week ago. Seat maps show no increase in passengers.

Booking in March are still in the $1400-1700 range with no increase passengers in the seat maps. Hopefully fares will be down to $1000 in a few weeks.I will go to Cebu in May.

Turkish Airlines just started a new connection directly to Cebu 3 x per week with a short stop in MNL.

That's great news, because from Europe you always had to Transit in other Asian cities to fly directly to Cebu.

No I have this better and faster Option and start from my small local airport in Cologne / Germany.

But Prices still high. About 1000€, they already went down a bit, but I'm waiting for 600-700€ and book then.

[WestCoast1]

https://news.yahoo.com/philippines-welcomes-back-foreign-travelers-024208329.html

From the article:

Wed, February 9, 2022, 9:42 PM2 min read

MANILA, Philippines (AP) The Philippines lifted a nearly 2-year ban on foreign travelers Thursday in a lifesaving boost for its tourism and related industries as an omicron-fueled surge eases.

Foreign travelers from 157 countries with visa-free arrangements with the Philippines who have been fully vaccinated and tested negative for the virus will be welcomed back and will no longer be required to quarantine upon arrival. The government also ended a risk classification system that banned travelers from the worst-hit countries.

We will begin the next chapter in the road to recovery, Tourism Secretary Berna Romulo-Puyat said. She added the border reopening would restore jobs and generate revenue across tourism-related enterprises and communities.

[South By Sw 3]

Cool that you posted their website! I'm so used to it now filling up that form, I don't know how many times I filled up. An advise about filling-up that form, if sometimes you are going to a strict city (Alert Level 3 or up), and the S-Pass won't allow you, just ask a friend for her address in a city close by that is Alert level 2 or better, or you can put a hotel you stayed in that city before, I did that before and they never check. I'm getting my paperwork in order. Google "Philippines S-PASS Philippines" and "Philippines one health pass" and the sites will come up.

One Health Pass was simple if you have pictures of you vax and ID. However, they won't process it until 3 days before your arrival.

The S-PaSS site was not loading at first, but now I'm registered with a friend's local phone number. They use it as your user ID to sign in to the site, so you can't change it. You'd have create a new account. The phone number doesn't appear to matter since S-Pass doesn't send updates or confirmation codes to the phone number. If I need to download the app, it it might be a problem. You can't apply more than 2 days ahead. I filed a test travel itinerary (MNL to Bohol) in two days just to see what the Travel Coordination Permit form asks for. The documents that they wanted for a vaxxed tourist were photo ID and proof of vax. Guess I'll see if it is approved tomorrow. Probably not because I uploaded a non-PH vax card.

Cebu City and Mandaue look like the only restricted cities on Cebu. Consolacion, Cordova, Talisay City and Lapu-Lapu City (Opon?) are Unrestricted. So in theory, MNL to Lapu-Lapu wouldn't require an S-Pass at all. Going to Talisay City would require a Pass Through Permit for Cebu City, but in either case once you were on the ground you can just move around with your One Health Pass. Am I missing something? If I tell them at the airport that I'm staying at the Mactan District Budgetel, will they want me to show a reservation or something? If I decide the Budgetel doesn't have enough marble in the lobby and I check out to go across the channel to the Radisson Blu I should get a S-Pass. But I'm guessing no one would know or care. Does anyone actually scan the S-Pass QR at the airport for a domestic flight or do they just look at it?

South By Sw 3 / 2.

[JonesLover]

Hey, the first days of March I'd like to reach Davao from Europe. Do you know if Davao is open to tourism?

Thank you!

[GoodEnough]

This might be of interest to some planning travel here: https://philippineslifestyle.com/iatf-updates-protocols-for-arriving-foreign-nationals/.

It appears that the borders are open and actually trying to attract foreigners.

GE.

[Albert9989]

This might be of interest to some planning travel here: https://philippineslifestyle.com/iatf-updates-protocols-for-arriving-foreign-nationals/.

It appears that the borders are open and actually trying to attract foreigners..And I can see now some prices from Paris to Manila below 1000 L€, up to 600€ with Turkish and long flights. But also, maybe, a sign that things are coming back.

[Mdemde]

(NB. I posted this earlier today on the Cebu forum.)

According to this news report published yesterday (link below), starting March 1st, unvaxxed foreign tourists will be allowed into the Philippines via Mactan-Cebu International airport (but no mention of them being allowed into other International airports in the Philippines).

All the news reports that I have read over the last month or so have all clearly stated that unvaxxed tourists will not be allowed into the country. Is the Mactan-Cebu International airport a backdoor way for unvaxxed tourists to enter the country?! My guess is that from March 1st the restrictions on entry for unvaxxed foreign tourists will be lifted for the whole of the Philippines.

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ARVIE N. VELOSO. February 09,2022.

FROM Thursday, Feb. 10,2022, Cebu province will accept foreign travelers, whether from non-visa-required or visa-required countries, as approved under Inter-Agency Task Force (IATF) for the Management of Emerging Infectious Diseases Resolution 160-be issued last week.

And from March, it will also admit unvaccinated foreign nationals, according to Executive Order (EO) 3, series of 2022 issued by Cebu Gov. Gwendolyn Garcia on Wednesday, Feb. 9, 2022.

This is a way to gradually revive the tourism industry in the country and the fortunes of the local government units which have been severely affected by the ongoing coronavirus disease (Covid-19) pandemic.

Garcia's EO 3 contains the rules to be followed by those who wish to visit and explore Cebu.

For foreigners from non-visa-required countries who are fully vaccinated against Covid-19, they need to present a vaccination card or proof of vaccination against Covid-19 permitted by the IATF, and a negative RT-PCR (reverse transcriptionpolymerase chain reaction) test taken within 48 hours prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin or first port of embarkation in a continuous travel to the Philippines, provided they did not leave the airport premises or were not admitted into another country during layovers.

Proof of vaccination must be presented prior to departure from the country of origin, as well as on arrival in Cebu.

They must also have "valid tickets for their return journey to the port of origin or next port of destination not later than 30 days from date of arrival in the Philippines" and travel insurance for Covid-19 treatment costs for a coverage of at least US $35,000 for the duration of their stay in the country.

They will not undergo facility-based quarantine in Cebu but will just self-monitor for symptoms for seven days.

Nationals from 157 countries may be admitted into the Philippines without a visa for an initial stay of 30 days, according to the Bureau of Immigration.

These countries include Canada, Japan, Singapore, USA, New Zealand, Malaysia and South Korea.

Visa required.

For vaccinated foreign nationals from visa-required countries, they need to present the Entry Exemption Document issued under IATF regulations, in addition to presenting proof of vaccination, a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours prior to the date and time of departure from the country of origin or first port of embarkation in a continuous travel to the Philippines.

They also will not undergo facility-based quarantine but will self-monitor for symptoms for seven days.

If they experience symptoms of Covid-19, tourists are instructed to inform the management of the hotel or resort in which they are billeted so that the local government unit (LGU) may also be informed.

At that point, the foreigner must be subjected to a rapid antigen test or an RT-PCR test.

If he tests positive in the Covid test, he must isolate and strictly follow health and quarantine protocols.

If it is necessary to take the foreigner to an isolation facility or hospital, the LGU is tasked to coordinate with the Department of Health for the patient's referral.

Unvaccinated

Starting March 1, unvaccinated and partially vaccinated, or foreign nationals whose vaccination status cannot be independently determined can enter the Cebu airport only if they present a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours before departing from their country of origin.

Such passengers will be subjected to a swab test on arrival.

They are also required to observe quarantine in a facility until the release of the result of their second RT-PCR test taken on the fifth day of their quarantine.

Such individuals are encouraged to get vaccinated against Covid-19 during their stay in Cebu.

For this purpose, the Department of Health Central Visayas (DOH 7) will make available the single-dose Janssen (Johnson and Johnson) vaccine for unvaccinated foreign nationals. It is free and there is no charge for getting vaccinated.

The Cebu Provincial Government first met with consul generals of Japan, Korea and China, officials of the Department of Tourism, tour operators, and representatives of the DOH 7, and the Mactan-Cebu International Airport prior to the issuance of EO 3, to come up with a unified approach to the entry of tourists to Cebu Province.

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https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1920601/cebu/local-news/cebu-to-accept-both-vaxxed-unvaxxed-foreign-travelers

[Steve Nash]

The S-PaSS site was not loading at first, but now I'm registered with a friend's local phone number. They use it as your user ID to sign in to the site, so you can't change it. You'd have create a new account. The phone number doesn't appear to matter since S-Pass doesn't send updates or confirmation codes to the phone number.I actually forgot my password once, and I just decided to create a new account with my pocket wifi number this time (I agree they will not send you a code on your number so you don't need to worry about that), and I used my same email address and I had not problem creating a new account.


Cebu City and Mandaue look like the only restricted cities on Cebu. Consolacion, Cordova, Talisay City and Lapu-Lapu City (Opon?) are Unrestricted. So in theory, MNL to Lapu-Lapu wouldn't require an S-Pass at all. Going to Talisay City would require a Pass Through Permit for Cebu City, but in either case once you were on the ground you can just move around with your One Health Pass. Am I missing something? If I tell them at the airport that I'm staying at the Mactan District Budgetel, will they want me to show a reservation or something? If I decide the Budgetel doesn't have enough marble in the lobby and I check out to go across the channel to the Radisson Blu I should get a S-Pass. But I'm guessing no one would know or care. Does anyone actually scan the S-Pass QR at the airport for a domestic flight or do they just look at it?Try going to Negros Occidental, they are the most restricted province in Philippines I think, I had to take a 72 hours RT-PCR test back on January when I went back from Cebu City to Negros Occidental, both were in Alert level 3 (they are both still are).

Last weekend when I came back from Manila (Alert Level 2) to Negros Occ. (Alert Level 3) I had to do only an Antigen Rapid Test (cost only 600 php). People in Negros Occ. Complained of too expensive to get a RT-PCR test so they changed to Antigen. Once Negros Occ. Change it back to Alert Level 2 (more likely February 15), then I won't need any COVID test like back on December.

About your question, my understanding is that now you are not required to do a hotel quarantine, so you only need to do a 7 days self monitor quarantine which it means nothing, I had to do the same (after the mandatory hotel quarantine) and I was able to do whatever I wanted, I even put that my quarantine was supposed to be in another province and I ended up staying in Manila. Just don't get arrested or have problem with the police during those 7 days or whatever time you need to do self monitor quarantine.

After that you are completely free and you don't to use the Health pass anymore, only S-Pass when travelling between provinces.

So yeah, in my opinion make sure you have a hotel in Lapu Lapu, because in the airport they might check your booking, but once you are in the hotel you can move around, you don't need to worry about anybody finding out. Like I said just don't get in trouble during the self monitoring days. And don't worry about crossing from Lapu Lapu to Cebu City nobody will check you if you don't get in trouble with the police. Just don't go from the airport to Cebu City, go to your hotel in Lapu Lapu first and after that you can take another taxi and go to Cebu City. Because they might ask you to take a special taxi (which they can contact the taxi and find out if you went to your hotel in Lapu Lapu, similar to when I had to do hotel quarantine).

[Steve Nash]

Probably not because I uploaded a non-PH vax card.Just to respond to this, you don't need to upload a PH vax card.

As long you have an official Vaccine certificate from your country that has a bar code is fine.

I used my Canadian Vaccine certificate to travel between provinces, to enter restaurants, to enter nightclubs and sports bars, to check-in in condos sometimes they asked, and they all accept it. Only in malls a couple of times they didn't accepted, so I just had to sign my name, address and phone number in a form and they let me in. But that was a couple of times out of more than a dozen of times that I showed them.

BTW not all malls will ask you for vaccine certificate, the same with restaurants and sports bars. I guess it depends of the restrictions of their alert level. Negros Occidental where I been staying the most is very strict compared to other provinces.

[Breadman]

So is the Tourist visa 9 (a) back in play again? I read that you can change a 30 day visa on arrival into a 9 (a) visa at immigration and I would hope this would still be true. My plan is to stick it out in Thailand until the Philippines gets their act together and keep extending my visa here since both of my flights to Cambodia got canceled (different airlines).

[Bushes]

OK. To all you storm troopers itching to storm my little sand pit as if it was the Normandy Beach, please, do bring germs.

Remember, cleanliness is next to godliness.

A refresher video tutorial on cleaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQUgEwy58M




From the article:

[South By Sw 3]

I actually forgot my password once, and I just decided to create a new account with my pocket wifi number this time (I agree they will not send you a code on your number so you don't need to worry about that), and I used my same email address and I had not problem creating a new account...SNIP All great info. Thanks Steve!

South by SW.

[WestCoast1]

OK. To all you storm troopers itching to storm my little sand pit as if it was the Normandy Beach, Remember why you're storming. If you could buy liquid joy in a bottle, it would smell like this.

[JonesLover]

At the end of February I would like to reach Mindanao and Bohol. I am confused about the necessary documents. I got 3 doses of the vaccine, so I am fully vaccinated. I will leave from Europe, can you tell me what precise documents I need to enter the Philippines? Thank you.

[South By Sw 3]

I filed a test travel itinerary (MNL to Bohol) in two days just to see what the Travel Coordination Permit form asks for. The documents that they wanted for a vaxxed tourist were photo ID and proof of vax. Guess I'll see if it is approved tomorrow. Probably not because I uploaded a non-PH vax card.For what it is worth, it was approved. Listed a real resort address as the destination, obviously no reservation there.

SbySW.

[WestCoast1]

Expat health insurance advertisement.

https://expatinsurancecompare.com/philippines?utm_medium=social&utm_source=mw&utm_term=philippinesL&utm_source_id=23849127145010680&utm_content=language&fbclid=IwAR3krXym7H-hGqe6xESQJOZe_fCLsR5o82cxcOVdMgPc3idchS7ytwfZ80Q

[WestCoast1]

At the end of February I would like to reach Mindanao and Bohol. I am confused about the necessary documents. I got 3 doses of the vaccine, so I am fully vaccinated. I will leave from Europe, can you tell me what precise documents I need to enter the Philippines? Thank you.See Beavis' report in the Stupid Shit thread:

http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4055-Stupid-Shit-in-the-Philippines&p=2661961&viewfull=1#post2661961

[GuyReynolds]

Gentlemen, was wondering when the best time to monger in the Philippines pre-Covid was? Did each city and areas have its separate timeframes or around the same time for all of them? I know things may change now due to COVID, but was just wondering. Looked several pages back and couldn't find anything. Many thanks!

[Member #4794]

What counterintelligence measures do you employ in the Philippines, for "fun" when mongering?

Do you use an simply use an alias or do you go around telling your passport number and address back in your home country?

Here is a list of overkill measures just for "fun" which I will be testing out on this next trip to phils.

1. FLIR Thermal imaging camera. This is used to detect hidden electronics as all technology uses electricity it most certainly will be a different temperature from its environment so to spot hidden cameras and or hidden listening devices.

2. Infrared Lens Filter Detector. You can find these on amazon but they shine a light onto a pinhole cameras lens and those cameras almost all have a IR filter that will reflect the IR light tipping you off to a hidden cameras location.

3. Add-A-Lock. Small device you place on a door that will lock the door from the inside regardless if the hotel owner has a key this jams the door shut with a small metal implement so the door cannot be opened without you removing the device. I often use this on any secondary entrances. I also carry some sliding window locks with me on occasion.

4. Faraday bag. This bag is used before you go into a questionable establishment as to NOT ping inside the establishment thereby allowing you some plausible deniability this may also be accomplished by using a burner phone however that phone may also be traced back to you in the event that someone really wants to know where you went and gets hold of it. Placing your device in a Faraday bag will simply show up as a blank spot in the tracking.

5. Travel Router. A router can help you establish a Double NAT with the use of the router acting as go between so to speak which is a NAT behind an existing router as to shield you from would be Kuya hackers and allow you to send only encrypted traffic over the local networks wifi. You would also accompany this router with a VPN which will ensure your data is encrypted over their network.

6. A Pink noise generator. You can have this on your laptop or phone and crank this up all the way if you are weary of listening devices. It is hard to find listening devices due to them now being the size of a credit card but pink noise should render such breaches natural.

7. Portable Security Web Camera / video doorbell. Provides you some small measure of personal video surveillance I turn this on when I'm not in the room and have it alert me of any motion.

For extra credit you may want to read "How To Hide Anything Paperback April 1, 1984" which allows you to safely store any valuables you may have maybe memory cards filled with "photos or video" you would not like made public but you would like to have for archival purposes.

Should you do this? NO. LOL! Just a "fun" topic. I realize this is a lot and it has just become a routine for me. I do realize this is not AS necessary in the Philippines as it is say in Russia or Mainland China but like I said its just for "fun". Don't be easy prey let them go after and a softer target and get off the X. What do you do to "stay safe?

[Expat American]

What counterintelligence measures do you employ in the Philippines, for "fun" when mongering?

Do you use an simply use an alias or do you go around telling your passport number and address back in your home country?

Here is a list of overkill measures just for "fun" which I will be testing out on this next trip to phils.

1. FLIR Thermal imaging camera. This is used to detect hidden electronics as all technology uses electricity it most certainly will be a different temperature from its environment so to spot hidden cameras and or hidden listening devices.

2. Infrared Lens Filter Detector. You can find these on amazon but they shine a light onto a pinhole cameras lens and those cameras almost all have a IR filter that will reflect the IR light tipping you off to a hidden cameras location.And after all that you go stick your uncovered dick into a bunch of working girls well used pussies. LOL.

[AsianPursuits]

What counterintelligence measures do you employ in the Philippines, for "fun" when mongering?..Never had any need for any of this. My measures:

A) New SIM card on every trip. Throw away at the airport after transferring remaining credit to the last bar girl.

B) Relax and enjoy the poverty pussy.

[Cool]

Gentlemen, was wondering when the best time to monger in the Philippines pre-Covid was? Did each city and areas have its separate timeframes or around the same time for all of them? I know things may change now due to COVID, but was just wondering. Looked several pages back and couldn't find anything. Many thanks!Most mongering places were better 10 to 20 years ago. More older, fatter, and avg looking talent in the game now.

[Beavis]

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[PedroMorales]

A prime example of why we didn't miss the foreigner attitude. Hopefully your intestines will remain intact and not be spilled on the old concrete of Walking Street after your attitude got your obnoxious ass kicked and gutted by a local that saw you as to what you are.I assume you object to that term as nothing else in AsianPursuit's post could be deemed offensive in any way, not even by ex pat hypocrites who live in the Philippines and thereby benefit from the poverty AsianPursuit alludes to.

AsianPursuit's implicit attitude is interesting in its own right. He, in essence finds, fucks and forgets them. He has obviously other things going on his life.

[Dashing Don]

I assume you object to that term as nothing else in AsianPursuit's post could be deemed offensive in any way, not even by ex pat hypocrites who live in the Philippines and thereby benefit from the poverty AsianPursuit alludes to.

AsianPursuit's implicit attitude is interesting in its own right. He, in essence finds, fucks and forgets them. He has obviously other things going on his life.Excellent response!

[Goferring]

What do you do to "stay safe?I pay them to leave in the morning.

[Goferring]

Gentlemen, was wondering when the best time to monger in the Philippines pre-Covid was? Definitely after 11:00 am. Before that everyone is still asleep.

[Dg8787]

Gentlemen, was wondering when the best time to monger in the Philippines pre-Covid was? Did each city and areas have its separate timeframes or around the same time for all of them? I know things may change now due to COVID, but was just wondering. Looked several pages back and couldn't find anything. Many thanks!From 00:01 to 23:59 everyday.

All cities on the same time frame.

Should be the same now.

[Goferring]

Most mongering places were better 10 to 20 years ago. More older, fatter, and avg looking talent in the game now.I'd agree. Of course it's a total coincidence that I was younger, slimmer and better looking 20 years ago too. 😁.

[South By Sw 3]

From 00:01 to 23:59 everyday.

All cities on the same time frame.

Should be the same now.Damn! That's why I never had any luck at midnight. I should have stuck it out another minute.

- SbySW.

[Dg8787]

Damn! That's why I never had any luck at midnight. I should have stuck it out another minute.

- SbySW.You have to be a Prince to pull pussy at midnight!

[Dashing Don]

Its 1:45 am EST Tuesday morning and I'm at the gate at JFK for the 3:30 am PAL flight to Manila.

I was one of only two people at the check in counter and was asked in a business-like fashion for my passport, Covid test, proof of insurance and One Pass. The girl at the counter was thorough but I was on my way in under two minutes. She didn't ask for the vaxx card. I asked her about the Traze app which I was unable to register despite multiple tries but she told me it was no longer necessary.

I had read online about people being not allowed to board due to problems with insurance coverage so I was a little concerned about that. There were also mutterings about 'recognized insurance companies'. Turned out ok. For the record I used Seven Corners. Cost: $33.

The biggest pain was the Rt pcr test. To avoid getting the results mere hours before the flight I paid for it to be expedited expedited. Cost: $389.

There has been a lot of uncertainty about this trip but so far so good.

Only one other Caucasian here with his Filipina wife and kid. Me. And hundreds of Filipinos. Looks like a full flight.

I'll post my experience at Naia later.

[Breadman]

So I asked a visa agency in the Philippines what the new rules would be for tourists and they replied by sending me these links below. I was specifically asking about extending the 30 day visa into the 59 day visa with further extensions after that. Now they didn't really answer my questions but they were kind enough to send me these pdf's below, the last one which states: b. A a citizen / national of the following countries entitled to a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days (Executive Order 408, S. 1960, as amended). So its nice to know they didn't lower it to 21 days.

https://doh.gov.ph/sites/default/files/health-update/IATFResolution160.pdf

https://doh.gov.ph/sites/default/files/health-update/IATFResolution160-A.pdf

https://doh.gov.ph/sites/default/files/health-update/IATFResolution160-B.pdf

[Member #4794]

The biggest pain was the Rt pcr test. To avoid getting the results mere hours before the flight I paid for it to be expedited expedited. Cost: $389.That faster RT-PCR test has an asterisk by it and it says check with airline to see if it is accepted. I have also booked that, I hope everything goes well for you. Thanks for the report, very helpful.

[WestCoast1]

Its 1:45 am EST Tuesday morning and I'm at the gate at JFK for the 3:30 am PAL flight to Manila.

I was one of only two people at the check in counter and was asked in a business-like fashion for my passport, Covid test, proof of insurance and One Pass. The girl at the counter was thorough but I was on my way in under two minutes. She didn't ask for the vaxx card. I asked her about the Traze app which I was unable to register despite multiple tries but she told me it was no longer necessary.

I had read online about people being not allowed to board due to problems with insurance coverage so I was a little concerned about that. There were also mutterings about 'recognized insurance companies'. Turned out ok. For the record I used Seven Corners. Cost: $33.

The biggest pain was the Rt pcr test. To avoid getting the results mere hours before the flight I paid for it to be expedited expedited. Cost: $389.

There has been a lot of uncertainty about this trip but so far so good.

Only one other Caucasian here with his Filipina wife and kid. Me. And hundreds of Filipinos. Looks like a full flight.

I'll post my experience at Naia later.This pic in honor of DD's good Boots-So-Close-To-The-Ground reporting. Looking forward to your final arrival requirements and hotel guest headaches, if any.

[South By Sw 3]

Its 1:45 am EST Tuesday morning and I'm at the gate at JFK for the 3:30 am PAL flight to Manila.Happy hunting DD! That puts me in the second wave.

SbySW.

[Steve Nash]

Its 1:45 am EST Tuesday morning and I'm at the gate at JFK for the 3:30 am PAL flight to Manila.

I was one of only two people at the check in counter and was asked in a business-like fashion for my passport, Covid test, proof of insurance and One Pass. The girl at the counter was thorough but I was on my way in under two minutes. She didn't ask for the vaxx card. I asked her about the Traze app which I was unable to register despite multiple tries but she told me it was no longer necessary.

I had read online about people being not allowed to board due to problems with insurance coverage so I was a little concerned about that. There were also mutterings about 'recognized insurance companies'. Turned out ok. For the record I used Seven Corners. Cost: $33.

The biggest pain was the Rt pcr test. To avoid getting the results mere hours before the flight I paid for it to be expedited expedited. Cost: $389.

There has been a lot of uncertainty about this trip but so far so good.

Only one other Caucasian here with his Filipina wife and kid. Me. And hundreds of Filipinos. Looks like a full flight.

I'll post my experience at Naia later.The reason they didn't ask you for the vaxx card like you said is because you have your One Pass approved, which means you have to upload your COVID certificate when you fill up your One Pass, if you don't upload your COVID certificate they won't approve your One Pass.

Back on December I wasn't asked for the Traze app either (I had it on my phone just in case), BUT now you need to have it and show it in a Philippines airport, specially if you are planning to travel to another province they will ask you to show it before they let you in to the airport, I was asked in Manila airport.

[Member #4794]

BUT now you need to have it and show it in a Philippines airport, specially if you are planning to travel to another province they will ask you to show it before they let you in to the airport, I was asked in Manila airport.When you say "now", when are you talking about? Are you talking AFTER FEB 10? Everything that happened prior to FEB 10 is subject to change imo due to tourists not being as compliant as residents.

EDIT: this looks like an airport requirement and not an entry requirement but I guess they could be construed as the same thing. With any luck they will get rid of this experiment by the time I arrive.

[Member #4794]

About the Traze app, I called the DOTr Public assistance line they have no idea if this is required. They gave me the number to the NAIA airport policy department and I spoke to a guy that says that its not totally required because some people can't install this app due to them not having a smart phone they would have to have someone assist them in this process however it doesn't have anything to do with the entry to the Philippines. The guy I spoke to said that they recently stopped asking for the traze app as he has been in an out daily with no request / mention of the app. They may require this at higher alert levels or have moved away from this hopefully. He also did say to install it "just in case".

[South By Sw 3]

I used insurance by Safety Wings to get into Phuket last year. 100 k coverage inc covid, for my age it was about 35 usd a month.After trying to get international coverage documentation that would get me through immigration, I decided it was easier to sign up for insurance. Went with Safety Wings Nomad. $250 k USD w / $250 deductible. Easy to sign up and they fixed things for me when I realized I got the end date wrong. Thanks Janni!

SbySW.

[PedroMorales]

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.traze.contacttraze&hl=en_IE&gl=US&showAllReviews=true

Seems it has its very many critics, some of whom are good looking.


About the Traze app.

[Dashing Don]

Its 8 pm Wednesday local time here in Manila. We landed about 1 pm today. Here's what it was like for the foreign visitor.

Upon debarkation we walked into the terminal but instead of going to immigration, we were asked to be seated and get out our vaxx card; One pass; proof of insurance; and boarding pass. There was about a 15 minute wait to get to a booth and present these to an officer. He entered the data in his cell phone. Painless.

Then to immigration. Short line. Having already presented most of the stuff, I was surprised when the immigration officer asked for all the paperwork again, plus proof of a negative test. A minute later I was through.

After picking up my suitcase there was another desk to go to where they wanted the One pass again. Less than a minute to clear that.

So the upshot is to keep all your paperwork in hand because you can be asked for any and all of it at any time.

I checked in to the Penn and was told that no visitors are allowed after 10 pm. Prior to that, its ok to bring any visitor as long as they have the vaxx card and ID.

That's all for now. I have several new friends coming tomorrow (Thursday) but I don't anticipate a problem.

[Bushes]

LOL! Not of fan of the wet spot. In my teenage years, girls would get so embarrassed they would hide the spot by sleeping on it. A great idea and practice I continue today! Hah hah hah.


Remember why you're storming. If you could buy liquid joy in a bottle, it would smell like this.

[Bushes]

OMG. A typo in my post and stormtroper (s) are en route!

OK. To all you storm troopers itching to storm my little sand box as if it was the Normandy Beach, please, do not bring germs.

Remember, cleanliness is next to godliness.

A refresher video tutorial on cleaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQUgEwy58M


OK. To all you storm troopers itching to storm my little sand pit as if it was the Normandy Beach, please, do bring germs.

Remember, cleanliness is next to godliness.

A refresher video tutorial on cleaning.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cMQUgEwy58M

[Bushes]

I would be curious to hear from people who got sick and had to claim. A lot of insurance requires payment to hospital and insurance company reimbursement at a later date.


After trying to get international coverage documentation that would get me through immigration, I decided it was easier to sign up for insurance. Went with Safety Wings Nomad. $250 k USD w / $250 deductible. Easy to sign up and they fixed things for me when I realized I got the end date wrong. Thanks Janni!

SbySW.
After some thinking it is wise for tourist to have medical insurance. I would increase coverage to $50,000 - $100,000.

In PH if you do test positive they can confine you to a hospital. If you are positive then it is best to be confined to a very good hospital like St. Luke in BGC or Makati Medical Hospital. Of course these hospitals are expensive especially if they know you have insurance. $35,000 coverage may not be enough in severe cases. Best to have more coverage and to be able to select a good hospital. Most plans have medical transportation coverage. Personally if I was severely ill I would opt for a flight to a hospital in Guam where my Medicare insurance would be in effect.

All depends on how much you value your life.
I used insurance by Safety Wings to get into Phuket last year.

100 k coverage inc covid, for my age it was about 35 usd a month.

[Dg8787]

Its 8 pm Wednesday local time here in Manila. We landed about 1 pm today. Here's what it was like for the foreign visitor.

Upon debarkation we walked into the terminal but instead of going to immigration, we were asked to be seated and get out our vaxx card; One pass; proof of insurance; and boarding pass. There was about a 15 minute wait to get to a booth and present these to an officer. He entered the data in his cell phone. Painless.

Then to immigration. Short line. Having already presented most of the stuff, I was surprised when the immigration officer asked for all the paperwork again, plus proof of a negative test. A minute later I was through.

After picking up my suitcase there was another desk to go to where they wanted the One pass again. Less than a minute to clear that.

So the upshot is to keep all your paperwork in hand because you can be asked for any and all of it at any time.

I checked in to the Penn and was told that no visitors are allowed after 10 pm. Prior to that, its ok to bring any visitor as long as they have the vaxx card and ID.

That's all for now. I have several new friends coming tomorrow (Thursday) but I don't anticipate a problem.Great front line report.

Was it easy to get a taxi from NAIA to Penn?

No limit of visitors before 10 pm on a daily basis?

If they have an in-house in room massage service, do they allow masseuse to your room after 10 pm?

Have a great time!

[Member #4794]

I would be curious to hear from people who got sick and had to claim. A lot of insurance requires payment to hospital and insurance company reimbursement at a later date.Its a $35-$75 tax imo that I assume is unusable, kind of like a throw away ticket. Its purpose is to gain entry.

[Dg8787]

I would be curious to hear from people who got sick and had to claim. A lot of insurance requires payment to hospital and insurance company reimbursement at a later date.I am curious too.

A few years ago an acquaintance of an acquaintance was hospitalized in Makati General. I was asked to visit the person. The person received first world hospital treatment. Hospital room was a suite with an extra bed for family to stay over night. It was a long stay and the bill was close to $50,000. I know the person didn't have the money to pay it but had travel medical insurance to cover it. Not sure if the person was released prior to ins payment or not.

Again this was a first world hospital that probably had a medical insurance billing dept.

Problem will be in a third world hospital that has no medical ins billing department demanding cash for release.

[Dg8787]

Its a $35-$75 tax imo that I assume is unusable, kind of like a throw away ticket. Its purpose is to gain entry.Might as well as get a legit policy with legit coverage while you are at it.

[WestCoast1]

I checked in to the Penn and was told that no visitors are allowed after 10 pm. Prior to that, its ok to bring any visitor as long as they have the vaxx card and ID.

That's all for now. I have several new friends coming tomorrow (Thursday) but I don't anticipate a problem.Its great news that the documents were easy (although possibly tedious) to acquire before your departure. Appraise us each few days as to any movement / taxi restrictions, restaurant rules, general business rules for entry.

Another pic for team DD.

[WestCoast1]

LOL! Not of fan of the wet spot. That wet spot was not from me, it was from her 5 minutes with the hitachi. After she moistened everything I moved her to another part of the bed and vaxxed her. Twice.

[JonesLover]

Hello,

In the first days of March I will be in the Philippines. And I have always had this curiosity, but I have never been able to understand. If anyone here knows both Davao and CDO, could you tell me the difference, as well as the size of the city? In other words, where is it easier to find regular available girls? Et. Etc. Which of the two cities do you like best? I thank you.

[Sammon]

Knowing Philippines mindset right now many layers of people will check and make sure papers are in order. Maybe partly to extract a bribe. Now it is a trickle and they have all the time in the world to check. When it becomes a torrent they will not have time to check all and will resort to random check. However cannot take the risk.

[Dg8787]

Knowing Philippines mindset right now many layers of people will check and make sure papers are in order. Maybe partly to extract a bribe. Now it is a trickle and they have all the time in the world to check. When it becomes a torrent they will not have time to check all and will resort to random check. However cannot take the risk.Yes, the newly trained front line will scrutinize your papers with a fine tooth comb and then pass it on the second line people, who will look at notes and check marks made by the front line and then look at the boss who has been looking over their shoulders for approval. The boss will make a few grunt sounds and wave you thru.

[Pekkakoo]

I booked two AirBNBs for March. One in BGC and I was told that visitors are allowed until 7 PM and must pay P300 upon check in (need vaxx card and ID). Then from booking in another AirBNB in Makati I was told that one visitor is allowed and need to bring vaxx card. In this case I wasn't given any times (and might too afraid to ask before entering the condo).

[Bushes]

I agree with legit policy. I have heard and seen my foreigners run after racking up huge hospital bills. Many places, including the US, require payment up front. In the US it just looks different in terms of credit card holds or proof of current insurance. Even then, if it is a private hospital, they might still.

Transfer you.


Might as well as get a legit policy with legit coverage while you are at it.

[LuvMexicanas]

Dr. Westy, I have applied your direct injection vaccination technique since you shared your medical advice with me a few months ago regarding the various administration methods. Although I still use the skin absorption technique in my practice, I have incorporated your direct injection delivery system. Just need to do a better job of photo documenting vaccine outflow. Having said that, some patients seem to prefer to raise their legs to retain every drop, which I suppose might improve efficacy. I will continue to test and retest vaccine delivery mechanisms on my patients including starting up a trial on anal delivery.

[WestCoast1]

Dr. Westy, I have applied your direct injection vaccination technique since you shared your medical advice with me a few months ago regarding the various administration methods. Although I still use the skin absorption technique in my practice, I have incorporated your direct injection delivery system. Just need to do a better job of photo documenting vaccine outflow. Having said that, some patients seem to prefer to raise their legs to retain every drop, which I suppose might improve efficacy. I will continue to test and retest vaccine delivery mechanisms on my patients including starting up a trial on anal delivery.Good call, doctor, and thanks for the consult. Don't stop the good work.

3 good pics deserve another. I appreciate especially your second pic; doggy sends me to a special place. A doggy pic is always good, but even better when the woofer's cousin is hitachi-buzzing one out next to her on the bed.

[LuvMexicanas]

Good call, doctor, and thanks for the consult. Don't stop the good work.

3 good pics deserve another. I appreciate especially your second pic; doggy sends me to a special place. A doggy pic is always good, but even better when the woofer's cousin is hitachi-buzzing one out next to her on the bed.Might I suggest doubling the vaccine concentration, placing the patients side by side, and injecting half a dose into each. Keep vaxing in the east and I will do the same in the west.

[Mine First]

Might I suggest doubling the vaccine concentration, placing the patients side by side, and injecting half a dose into each. Keep vaxing in the east and I will do the same in the west.Do not usually quote on pics. But you all rock in your demeanor.

[WestCoast1]

Might I suggest doubling the vaccine concentration, placing the patients side by side, and injecting half a dose into each. Keep vaxing in the east and I will do the same in the west.Not a bad idea, doctor. I'm wondering if my writings on ISG might be suitable for the JAMA archives. Next time this girl comes to my place I will see if she's eager to bring a friend / cousin for "Half-dosing".

[DogLife]

LuvMexicanas and Westy, both of your witty humorous exchange never fails to crack me up.

You would make Patch Adams proud 👏.

Cheers!!

[WestCoast1]

LuvMexicanas and Westy, both of your witty humorous exchange never fails to crack me up.

You would make Patch Adams proud 👏.

Cheers!!DL: Thanks for your kind words. I wonder what Adams was patching. . . One can only hope that Patch was vaxxing away like WC / LM. Bring your vaxxing tools with you when you head to Phils, seed your pinay, and tip your cabbie.

[DogLife]

Bring your vaxxing tools with you when you head to Phils, seed your pinay, and tip your cabbie.Phil is definitely on my list. Will consult you when I fly to make humanitarian visits there. Ala. Doctors san frontier.

Keep up the good work till backup arrives.

[GoodTimes4444]

Hello all!

I have a trip booked to the Philippines (specifically Angeles City) for the first two weeks of March. Along with my negative PCR test taken within 72 hours of my outbound flight from the US I of course have my vaccination card, will have the at least $35,000 in travel insurance and hopefully, it's approved, my Philippines One Health Pass. I filled out the One Health Pass application but they said they will process it on Feb 28th as my flight leaves March 1. My question that I wanted to verify is that I want to make sure there's no quarantine rule (as in you don't have to stay in a specific hotel for a specific amount of time) upon arrival to the Philippines correct? The reason I am wondering is because on the Philippines One Health Pass application it made me select one of the hotels on the drop down menu that I would be quarantined at. I could not move forward with the application until I chose a quarantine hotel. I thought that was strange as I had believed the quarantine rule had been lifted. I'm flying into Manila and then immediately taking a car to Angeles. Any input is much appreciated and please let me know if I missed anything on my checklist of requirements fulfilled in order to get into the Philippines and have some good times! It's been waaaaaay toooo long!

[WestCoast1]

The reason I am wondering is because on the Philippines One Health Pass application it made me select one of the hotels on the drop down menu that I would be quarantined at. I could not move forward with the application until I chose a quarantine hotel. I thought that was strange as I had believed the quarantine rule had been lifted. I'm flying into Manila and then immediately taking a car to Angeles. Any input is much appreciated and please let me know if I missed anything on my checklist of requirements fulfilled in order to get into the Philippines and have some good times! Most likely, the app setup requires you to choose, in advance, a POSSIBLE quarantine hotel, just in case you test positive while in Philippines. There are some sh*tty isolation places that the government can stick you in, and it would be better if you chose a nicer hotel in advance for yourself.

[South By Sw 3]

OnePass emailed me the day before my flight to confirm occupation and purpose of the trip. I replied to the email and got my document a few hours later.

PAL had a temperature check line before check in. Show passport and One Health QR. Several people filled out the One Health from in line and got a QR right away. They gave me a stamped pass and a declaration form to fill out (packed own bag, no contraband, etc.). At check in they asked for passport, one pass, proof of insurance, and vax card (seems unnecessary with One Pass). They also made sure I had a return ticket for immigration. (Immigration never asked to see it, BTW).

At the NAIA arrival gate, before we could disembark, a coast guard representative talked about the process and documents. He mentioned a hotel confirmation. First I heard of that, but pulled up the confirmation email on my phone just in case.

At NAIA, they directed the fully vaccinated arrivals into the gate 2 departures waiting area. They sat us down in the order that we entered. Had to show One Pass, vax card, test result. Then on to immigration. Passport and arrival form. Asked my return flight date. Took my picture. Got my luggage and headed for the customs exit. Scanned my One Pass and gave me a tiny slip of paper to give to the guard at the door. Never even asked for the customs form.

Out the door to the happy humid hunting ground. Picked up a SIM. SIMs and liquor are the only things available outside the terminal. If you need a water or CR break get it before you go through customs.

Per GoodTimes4444 question below. One Health Pass didn't ask for a Q hotel two weeks ago when I filled out the form, so it must be new. It's odd though since they don't test you again on arrival and they won't let you on the plane with a positive test.

SbySW.

[Sammon]

Hello all!

I have a trip booked to the Philippines (specifically Angeles City) for the first two weeks of March. Along with my negative PCR test taken within 72 hours of my outbound flight from the US I of course have my vaccination card, will have the at least $35,000 in travel insurance and hopefully, it's approved, my Philippines One Health Pass. I filled out the One Health Pass application but they said they will process it on Feb 28th as my flight leaves March 1. My question that I wanted to verify is that I want to make sure there's no quarantine rule (as in you don't have to stay in a specific hotel for a specific amount of time) upon arrival to the Philippines correct? The reason I am wondering is because on the Philippines One Health Pass application it made me select one of the hotels on the drop down menu that I would be quarantined at. I could not move forward with the application until I chose a quarantine hotel. I thought that was strange as I had believed the quarantine rule had been lifted. I'm flying into Manila and then immediately taking a car to Angeles. Any input is much appreciated and please let me know if I missed anything on my checklist of requirements fulfilled in order to get into the Philippines and have some good times! It's been waaaaaay toooo long!I am not sure if they are strict about it but rules say pre covid test less than 48 hours before leaving country not 72 hours.

[Dashing Don]

Ok fellas this is my report from Manila.

First, I would say that the old timers here were right: it would be better to wait a few months until everything is back to normal before visiting.

I already described the arrival process. SW3's experience was the same as mine.

I arrived at the Peninsula hotel on Wed morning. It was mostly empty as were the streets in Makati which are normally bustling. The concierge was genuinely glad to see me and was waxing about things returning to normal. No buffet breakfast, per Alert level 2 and masks were ubiquitous in the hotel, except when dining or by the pool.

Jetlag is my biggest enemy coming from the East coast of the USA. A twelve hour time difference turns your body on its head. I've found no fast cure for this. If arriving during daylight hours I'll start working the dating apps to line up dates and this has worked for almost 20 years. But not this time!

Despite hundreds of tedious texts the responses were late, non commital etc. I managed to get a few girls over during the next few days to slake my thirst but the process was tedious. They didn't have money to come. They wanted me to send cash which I can't and won't anyway. Appointments broken etc. They're never punctual to begin with, however, this experience was unparalleled.

Slowly I came to the conclusion that just like the empty stores and streets in Makati, the average Filipina is tapped out; probably trying to survive; and dating apps aren't a high priority right now. Many don't even have load. They're shot. That's my impression.

I walked up Burgos during the daytime. Maybe there's one bar operating at night but I saw no evidence of even one operating! They all looked like they had been shut for a long while.

After 4 days I went up to Angeles and stayed at ABC. My first time there. It was empty. However the bars were open. I didn't enter any of them but I could see that there were plenty of girls and few customers.

At this point I got waylaid by a bug, a not infrequent occurrence in the phils. It knocked me out for several days. I arranged some online dates one of whom told me its likely that my illness was water borne, ie 'service water'. I resolved to only drink bottled water from hereon. BTW the rate for incall now is 2 k, established by trial and error. Before it was 1500 as I recall.

I'm back in Makati now. Another casualty of the pandemic is 'Day Game'. Its just impractical to approach a girl in the mall or on the street with the masks on. The mood here is improving and I think all the restrictions will be gone soon. The Phils is as good as ever but. I'd wait a bit before coming.

[FuriousGeorge]

Arriving on Mar 25, in Makati at the City Garden Grand for a couple days, then to AC at Central Park Tower for a couple weeks. Videos have shown that AC has plenty of pickings. Then my final week is unplanned, hopefully in a place with a beach with the girl of my choosing. We shall see. If anyone local wants to meet for a drink and discuss the state of events, hit me up.

[SpirouleGroom]

Ok fellas this is my report from Manila.

First, I would say that the old timers here were right: it would be better to wait a few months until everything is back to normal before visiting.

I already described the arrival process. SW3's experience was the same as mine.

I arrived at the Peninsula hotel on Wed morning. It was mostly empty as were the streets in Makati which are normally bustling. The concierge was genuinely glad to see me and was waxing about things returning to normal. No buffet breakfast, per Alert level 2 and masks were ubiquitous in the hotel, except when dining or by the pool.

Jetlag is my biggest enemy coming from the East coast of the USA. A twelve hour time difference turns your body on its head. I've found no fast cure for this. If arriving during daylight hours I'll start working the dating apps to line up dates and this has worked for almost 20 years. But not this time!

Despite hundreds of tedious texts the responses were late, non commital etc. I managed to get a few girls over during the next few days to slake my thirst but the process was tedious. They didn't have money to come. They wanted me to send cash which I can't and won't anyway. Appointments broken etc. They're never punctual to begin with, however, this experience was unparalleled.Following a surge never seen before of hospitalizations, mostly triple vac, from omicron, Israel has ditched vac requirement to enter the country. They came to the conclusion that it doesn't mean shit. Iceland has lifted all restrictions and asked its population (100% vac) to catch omicron in order to acquire natural immunity. That was my hunch two months ago that 2022 will see the downfall of vac religion. Being patient and wise always paid. Alleluia.

[WestCoast1]

Ok fellas this is my report from Manila.

First, I would say that the old timers here were right: it would be better to wait a few months until everything is back to normal before visiting.

SNIP

I'm back in Makati now. Another casualty of the pandemic is 'Day Game'. Its just impractical to approach a girl in the mall or on the street with the masks on. The mood here is improving and I think all the restrictions will be gone soon. The Phils is as good as ever but. I'd wait a bit before coming.Another good BOTG report, and another pic in honor of it.

[Mr Enternational]

Jetlag is my biggest enemy coming from the East coast of the USA. A twelve hour time difference turns your body on its head. I've found no fast cure for this.You stay up all night before you leave.

[AsianPursuits]

Following a surge never seen before of hospitalizations, mostly triple vac, from omicron, Israel has ditched vac requirement to enter the country. They came to the conclusion that it doesn't mean shit. Iceland has lifted all restrictions and asked its population (100% vac) to catch omicron in order to acquire natural immunity. That was my hunch two months ago that 2022 will see the downfall of vac religion. Being patient and wise always paid. Alleluia.You are comparing the public health decisions made in a fully vaccinated Iceland population of 336,000 people (or Israel pop. 9,000,000) and using that to justify the personal health choice of an unvaccinated individual going to Philippines (pop 125,000,000) with less than 50% vax coverage and less than stellar healthcare system. You are entirely welcome to make whatever personal choice you like.

[LuvMexicanas]

Not a bad idea, doctor. I'm wondering if my writings on ISG might be suitable for the JAMA archives. Next time this girl comes to my place I will see if she's eager to bring a friend / cousin for "Half-dosing".Doctor, sometimes I've had complications with a patient when the injection point is too small for even a half-insertion dose. That's when my resolve kicks in to fulfill my oath as a doctor to care for a patient to the best of my ability. I think back to Heartbreak Ridge and find a way to improvise, adapt and over-cum.

[WestCoast1]

Doctor, sometimes I've had complications with a patient when the injection point is too small for even a half-insertion dose. That's when my resolve kicks in to fulfill my oath as a doctor to care for a patient to the best of my ability. I think back to Heartbreak Ridge and find a way to improvise, adapt and over-cum.Thanks for the western update, doctor, and good point. Entiendo. I understand the problem of tiny injection points. Pilipina tend to be tiny creatures, and good medical practice requires innovation. Sometimes the thrust of our work is finding different ways of getting the vaccine into the girl. I am not suggesting bleach or UV light, I am suggesting to continue to use your current vaxxing tool as is, but in finding other orifices to insert the tool if needed.

If there is no acceptable injection site, then as a last resort I use the "Vax-to-skin" delivery method, hoping for some osmosis. Sometimes in a moment of vax-desperation, should I be forced to use the skin method, on my fingertip I also get a dab of the vax from her tummy, ass, or face, and touch it to her lips, hoping some of the vax will make its way down her throat (its for her protection). The final and last-ditch thought on this kind of method is to swab a q-tip (cotton bud in Phils) into my recent skin-vax (warmer is better), then swab it just under her nose (or just inside the nostril), hoping that some of the vax solution will atomize, and she can inhale it on her way home (to her boyfie). Its also possible that she will then kiss her boyfie when she gets home, and continued atomization might help to vaccinate him also. You have to be a very bad boi, and a very good vaxxin' doc, to try experimental treatments such as this. If only there was a site on the Internet where these kids of treatments could be shared. If only. . .

BTW, are Adelitas and Chicago still open for biz?

#thinking-of-the-locals. #good-doctoring-reaps-rewards. #always-thrusting-forward.

[LuvMexicanas]

Dr. Westy, you've seen from my past work that I too utilize the vax direct application to epidermis delivery methodology. Your creative non-invasive techniques are intriguing. I have another variation of an absorption method, but it involves some enhanced risk of patient anger and violence, especially with Mexicanas. It's hair delivery which can be effective but slower because it takes time for the vax to reach the scalp and significantly so if a patient has long beautiful hair.

AB and Chicago are still open.

[LukeSkyWanker]

Hello,

In the first days of March I will be in the Philippines. And I have always had this curiosity, but I have never been able to understand. If anyone here knows both Davao and CDO, could you tell me the difference, as well as the size of the city? In other words, where is it easier to find regular available girls? Et. Etc. Which of the two cities do you like best? I thank you.I have been to CDO many times and the hotels are shit and nothing much is happening. It is my intention to visit Davao on the 16th March for about 5 days or so I will let you know what it is like. The other thing about CDO is the weather, it is mostly cloudy and overcast. I like to sunbathe and get a tan and enjoy my dick being stoked at the same time, very difficult in CDO.

May the force be with you.

[WestCoast1]

I have been to CDO many times and the hotels are shit and nothing much is happening. SNIP May the force be with you.This in general is true. If you have been to Surigao, Butuan, or Iligan, then CDO is a larger version of such (about 3 x the size of the others). It is simply a more sprawling barrio. Few high-rise buildings, but several malls. If you want the big city advantages, then Davao / Cebu / Manila.

[Breadman]

This in general is true. If you have been to Surigao, Butuan, or Iligan, then CDO is a larger version of such (about 3 x the size of the others). It is simply a more sprawling barrio. Few high-rise buildings, but several malls. If you want the big city advantages, then Davao / Cebu / Manila.Well I can say that the selection of Airbnb's in Davao are surely lacking which has made me rethink visiting that city. Maybe its possible to rent a hotel room by the month though that would give you the Airbnb price deals.

[Member #4794]

I was not asked for medical insurance or any added hassle in-fact I think they are making efforts to streamline this process and stop all the bullshit. When I went to SM you could see the carnage of a lot of stores wanting some tracing information, what a horrible thing to do to someone. Feels like I am back in maniland China with a minder. I have not yet run into a situation where I needed a contract tracing app. I tend to not frequent anyplace that requires this. I believe that if you step out of the walking street bubble or try to enter the malls you may be subject to this nonsense. Best to stay in the freedom lane and all tourists should make those tourist dollars count as votes for places that don't make their customers do this crap.

SM clark did not make me fill out a form to enter. If they did i would have refused and not gone in.

[WestCoast1]

I was not asked for medical insurance or any added hassle in-fact I think they are making efforts to streamline this process and stop all the bullshit. .I would guess you only need that now in case you end up in a hospital or covid Q facility.


When I went to SM you could see the carnage of a lot of stores wanting some tracing information, what a horrible thing to do to someone. Feels like I am back in maniland China with a minder. I have not yet run into a situation where I needed a contract tracing app. I tend to not frequent anyplace that requires this. I believe that if you step out of the walking street bubble or try to enter the malls you may be subject to this nonsense. Best to stay in the freedom lane and all tourists should make those tourist dollars count as votes for places that don't make their customers do this crap.I will guess you are talking about these kinds of tracing forms (see pics). They are not required by the business, they are required by the DOH and / or LGU's (depending Alert Level). You can not vote on these with your feet or dollars. If the DOH says that all fast food places, or restaurants, or all businesses must collect them, then they all collect them. Another reason for the gents to hit AC, as the rules seem more laid back.

For example in Manila, at the Robinson's Malate, the STAR Pharmacy next to the Robinson's grocery store does not require the tracing form (possibly because you must fill one out for the mall at the entrance, just steps away). Yet upstairs in the mall at Watson's Pharmacy, everyone fills out the tracing form in order to come inside the store. And even more strangely, next to STAR is a small food supplement store (vitamins and minerals and such in pill form, protein powder) that requires me to fill out the form.

Regarding the apps. They vary from place to place. Pictured is the one required to enter the Intramuros BI for extensions. You don't need a special app, you just point your phone camera at that QR code and it automatically brings up a webpage to fill in your contact tracing info (name, address, age, phone number). Then it txts you a filled-in form to show the BI guard when you show your passport to enter.


SM clark did not make me fill out a form to enter. If they did i would have refused and not gone in.I don't recall any malls requiring these, even when they opened them back up about 2 months into the pandemic and everything was extremely strict. Some stores inside require them (most grocery stores inside malls usually didn't require them, but some do). Interestingly, Robinson's Malate grocery store didn't require the tracing form if you enter the grocery store from inside the mall (nor at the mall entrances). But if you enter the grocery store from the Adriatico street entrance (just inside the door is the STAR Pharmacy), you must fill out the form before the guard will allow you in. That doesn't make any sense.

[Member #4794]

I will guess you are talking about these kinds of tracing forms (see pics). They are not required by the business, they are required by the DOH and / or LGU's (depending Alert Level). You can not vote on these with your feet or dollars. If the DOH says that all fast food places, or restaurants, or all businesses must collect them, then they all collect them. Another reason for the gents to hit AC, as the rules seem more laid back.
You always have the option of eating lechon manok, garlic peanuts, fish balls, fruit and frequenting, sari-sari stores, carinderias, bakeshops, public markets, witch doctors for your needs while a tourist.

I can see where this would be problematic if you were a resident that's why I'm pointing out that the advice a tourist may receive might differ from residents that might expect a higher standard of living where roughing it may be un sustainable, tourists can rough it while banging the girls for a week. This is how overstay road gets around the contact tracing as well and he IS a resident.

It would also make sense that Balikbayan visas or residents the government would like to see some form of health care if they are staying for a year or more where a tourist is presumably on a by comparison limited visa and would only be in the country temporally. These rules/requirements most likely are and should be different for tourists and most likely a cause of confusion if one does not differentiate.

[JonesLover]

Hi,

Unfortunately I had the unfortunate idea to spend a few days in Cagayan de Oro. I already have the plane ticket and in a few days I'll be there, then I'll go to Davao.

My question: someone who knows CDO well, can you tell me where I can go to change the euro with a good exchange rate?

Thank you.

[WestCoast1]

Hi,

Unfortunately I had the unfortunate idea to spend a few days in Cagayan de Oro. I already have the plane ticket and in a few days I'll be there, then I'll go to Davao.

My question: someone who knows CDO well, can you tell me where I can go to change the euro with a good exchange rate?Very unfortunate.

Try the money changers in the Divisoria area, on Velez St, between Abejuela St and T Neri St, next to the old Grand City hotel. Alternately try one block to the west, on Tiano Bro St, also between Abejuela and Neri streets. Money changer businesses come and go, they might no longer be there. You can also exchange at the following places:

Any Cebuana Lhuillier locations.

Also in the Centrio Ayala mall, floor 3, Core Pacific Money Exchange (next door to a computer repair shop).

[WestCoast1]

From today, March 3, 2022. Update on visa requirements from the Philippines Embassy website:

http://www.philippine-embassy.org.sg/consular/visa/general-information/

General Information on the Entry of Foreigners

The Embassy informs the public of salient points of Resolution Nos. 159 dated 27 January 2022 and 160-A dated 3 February 2022 of the Inter-agency Task Force for the Management of Emerging and Infectious Diseases (IATF):

I. Classification of countries, territories, and/or jurisdictions into green, yellow and red is temporarily suspended until further notice;

II. Effective 10 February 2022, foreign nationals traveling to the Philippines for business and tourism purposes may enter the country visa-free and stay in the Philippines for not more than 30 days, provided that they:

Are a citizen or national of a non-visa required country under Executive Order 408 s. 1960 (E.O. 408);
Are fully-vaccinated and able to provide sufficient proof of vaccination (except for minor children below 12 years of age), to include any of the following:

World Health Organization (WHO) International Certificate of Vaccination and Prophylaxis;
VaxCertPH;
National or digital certificate of the country which has accepted VaxCertPH under reciprocal arrangement (for Singapore, digital certificate issued through Notarise Singapore); OR
Other proof of vaccination permitted by the IATF.

Present a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours prior to departure from (first) point of origin;
Have a valid return ticket or ticket to onward destination (not later than 30 days from the date of arrival in the Philippines);
Have passports valid for at least six months from the time of arrival in the Philippines; AND
Have obtained, prior to arrival, travel insurance for COVID-19 treatment costs from a reputable insurance company, with a minimum coverage of USD35,000, for the duration of their stay in the Philippines.

III. Foreign nationals not qualified under Section II above, or foreign nationals from visa-required or restricted countries, may enter the Philippines by securing a 9(a) visa, provided that:

They have an entry exemption document issued under existing IATF regulations;
Are fully-vaccinated and able to provide sufficient proof of vaccination (except for minor children below 12 years of age), as provided in Section II 2(b);
Present a negative RT-PCR test taken within 48 hours prior to departure from (first) point of origin;

IV. Once admitted into the country, fully vaccinated foreign nationals are no longer required to observe mandatory facility quarantine but shall self-monitor for any COVID-19 signs and symptoms for seven (7) days, with Day 1 as the date of arrival in the Philippines. They are required to report to the local government unit (LGU) of their destination should they manifest any symptoms.

V. Those who fail to fully comply with the conditions set forth shall be denied admission and shall be subject to appropriate exclusion proceedings. Furthermore, foreign nationals found not compliant with the conditions set forth in Section II 2b shall be required to undergo facility-based quarantine until the release of their negative RT-PCR test taken on the 5th day. After which, they shall be required to undergo home quarantine until their 14th day, with Day 1 as their date of arrival.

And.

IMPORTANT:

Only fully-vaccinated foreign nationals (except for minors 12 years old and below) with sufficient proof of vaccination will be allowed entry into the Philippines.

Foreign nationals from visa-free countries who wish to stay in the Philippines for more than 30 days can either (a) request an extended stay at the Bureau of Immigration upon arrival in the Philippines; or (b) secure an endorsement from the appropriate Philippine national government agency and secure a 9(a) visa that will allow them to stay for a maximum of 59 days. The endorsing Philippine national agency must submit their entry exemption request directly to DFA-Office of Consular Affairs (OCA).

[WestCoast1]

Also the list of countries that Phils allows in visa-free:

https://dfa.gov.ph/list-of-countries-for-21-day-visa

[The Rose]

Thanks for the report. It was informative. Here are additional questions about which you may have insights:

1) What constitutes proof of vaccination? I am triple vaxed attested to by a US CDC card but which can be easily doctored. I think that I recall that these CDC cards are acceptable. Further the PI is generally lax on enforcement. Recall the perfunctory inspection of your bags by the security guards when you enter the mall. However I would hate to be turned away by immigration or shaken down for a bribe.

2) What is acceptable Health insurance? I have Medicare and supplemental insurance. For all of you expats who have no experience with that, supplemental insurance covers shortfalls between the amount charged for medical service and what Medicare pays. You can get this insurance without premiums that's how big the insurance industry is. So I am wondering if presenting my US health insurance cards will suffice.

[WestCoast1]

Thanks for the report. It was informative. Here are additional questions about which you may have insights:

1) What constitutes proof of vaccination? I am triple vaxed attested to by a US CDC card but which can be easily doctored. I think that I recall that these CDC cards are acceptable. Further the PI is generally lax on enforcement. Recall the perfunctory inspection of your bags by the security guards when you enter the mall. However I would hate to be turned away by immigration or shaken down for a bribe.

2) What is acceptable Health insurance? I have Medicare and supplemental insurance. For all of you expats who have no experience with that, supplemental insurance covers shortfalls between the amount charged for medical service and what Medicare pays. You can get this insurance without premiums that's how big the insurance industry is. So I am wondering if presenting my US health insurance cards will suffice.Welcome. I got that info from another Board member, and I was just parroting it, so not sure of the accuracy of my answers here.

1) Good question. They use vax cards in the US I think, made from card stock. Mine is better in Manila, its electronic, complete with my pic, name, Brgy, and unique QR code. Its filled in initially online by you with your info, and you upload your pic. Once you show up for your first shot, you give your phone to a guy at a computer who scans your QR code. On his computer, your vax card shows up. It better be your face and the name better match your passport, or no shot. The QR code makes them difficult to fake. That guy checking your credentials then nods to the nurse, who injects you. Then he clicks SUBMIT on his screen, and my vax card updated instantly on my screen to show the date, nurse's name, lot number, and location. Interesting tech, especially since they often vax 1000 persons or more in a morning.

In the pic, the area of the blue line, was blank when I handed it to the computer guy. Then the nurse jabbed me, the guy hit SUBMIT on his computer, and those boxes refreshed on my phone and all the info was in them. JUST. LIKE. THAT.

Mostly I rarely had to show it. Then around October (Delta), lots of the indoor resto's, starbucks, Coffee Bean, etc around Malate started enforcing it at the door or cash register when ordering food. At the time, there were no new inbound foreigners allowed in who might have the card stock card like yours, I never saw those. I would imagine that they would be acceptable (to businesses that want your money).

2) Easy way to find out if your basic Medicare or gaps cover overseas health, nd what limits: Contact them. Just like any insurance company, they will send you an exact document that shows your out-of-country coverage limits and deductibles.

[Ibaski]

Thanks for the report. It was informative. Here are additional questions about which you may have insights:

1) What constitutes proof of vaccination? I am triple vaxed attested to by a US CDC card but which can be easily doctored. I think that I recall that these CDC cards are acceptable. Further the PI is generally lax on enforcement. Recall the perfunctory inspection of your bags by the security guards when you enter the mall. However I would hate to be turned away by immigration or shaken down for a bribe.

2) What is acceptable Health insurance? I have Medicare and supplemental insurance. For all of you expats who have no experience with that, supplemental insurance covers shortfalls between the amount charged for medical service and what Medicare pays. You can get this insurance without premiums that's how big the insurance industry is. So I am wondering if presenting my US health insurance cards will suffice.I used my CDC card. It was checked in USA at the airport, at Transit airports, 3 times at Manila airport and at check in at 5 star hotel in Manila and at my Condo later.

I just bought travel health insurance specifying Philippines which was verified at Narita transit and I believe at Manila as well. At Narita the rep actually wanted to see Philippines on the Insurance certificate.

Also make sure you complete one health pass at https://www.onehealthpass.com.ph/. This was requested at each check in as well as in Manila.

I had all the docs printed as well as on my phone. May be the checks were thorough as I travelled right after Feb 10th but no biggie.

[Mdemde]

From today, March 3, 2022. Update on visa requirements from the Philippines Embassy website:

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IMPORTANT:

Only fully-vaccinated foreign nationals (except for minors 12 years old and below) with sufficient proof of vaccination will be allowed entry into the Philippines.

According to a news report on February 18 (link below), starting March 1, Cebu Governor Gwendolyn Garcia was going to allow unvaxxed tourists into the country via the Mactan-Cebu International airport.

https://www.sunstar.com.ph/article/1921361/cebu/local-news/gwen-its-the-iatf-that-allowed-entry-of-unvaccinated-travelers

For more info, see my post on the Cebu forum on February 19, at http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1004-General-Information. Post #7541.

[Locamotive]

I used my CDC card. It was checked in USA at the airport, at Transit airports, 3 times at Manila airport and at check in at 5 star hotel in Manila and at my Condo later.

I just bought travel health insurance specifying Philippines which was verified at Narita transit and I believe at Manila as well. At Narita the rep actually wanted to see Philippines on the Insurance certificate.

Also make sure you complete one health pass at https://www.onehealthpass.com.ph/. This was requested at each check in as well as in Manila.

I had all the docs printed as well as on my phone. May be the checks were thorough as I travelled right after Feb 10th but no biggie.I know insurance will be required for entry. Mine from home I do not trust as they could say oh that won't work here. I've seen several post on this but no names. Any recommendation's? I'm sure there are many online but ID like the one they are use too or approve and will not blink a eye. Faster I leave that airport the faster to fun.

[Nightrider1]

Do I need this to enter Phil? I have a vax card I got when I got my shots at the VA facility. Do I need more than this for my trip on March 5 ? HELP.

[WestCoast1]

An advertisement for traveler's health insurance / Phils. I have not browsed this website, nor am I affiliated with it. Just throwing it out there for future travelers.

https://expatinsurancecompare.com/philippines?utm_medium=social&utm_source=mw&utm_term=philippinesL&utm_source_id=23849127145010680&utm_content=language&fbclid=IwAR2aNGhw4SBpl26tNNO1F2RVsVsDp7Sfbvb6_B1j3R0kZUZU8kf7FfZ7o2o

[AsianPursuits]

Do I need this to enter Phil? I have a vax card I got when I got my shots at the VA facility. Do I need more than this for my trip on March 5 ? HELP.We don't know exactly what is your "vax card" that you are holding.

From Philippines airlines website:

https://www.philippineairlines.com/en/ph/home/covid-19/ArrivingInThePH/ArrivalGuideForFully-VaccinatedTravelersInoculatedInthePhilippines

"World Health Organization International Certificate of Vaccination and Prophylaxis (WHO ICV)" OR.

"the national COVID-19 vaccination certificate of the following countries". United States.

Is the "vax card" you have a United States national certificate? Does it contain the same numbers and exact name as they match to your passport? Immigration and checking people will want to link your vax status directly to the travel document.

If you vax card is just dates with a smiley stamp by the cute nurse then probably not what you need.

[South By Sw 3]

Do I need this to enter Phil? I have a vax card I got when I got my shots at the VA facility. Do I need more than this for my trip on March 5 ? HELP.If this is for the https://www.onehealthpass.com.ph/ all I uploaded was a picture of my vax card. They approved it.

SbySW.

[Si6798]

I'm a Indian Passport holder and have a valid UK Visa. In the past I was able to enter Phil Visa free. Any thoughts on if that's still applicable. I hear contradictory statements from traveling coordinators. Thanks in advance for responding.

[AsianPursuits]

I'm a Indian Passport holder and have a valid UK Visa. In the past I was able to enter Phil Visa free. Any thoughts on if that's still applicable. I hear contradictory statements from traveling coordinators. Thanks in advance for responding.According to this page you easier to enter Philippines on your UK passport. India passport has some conditions.

https://www.philippineconsulatela.org/consular-services-2/visa/dont-know-if-you-need-a-visa-to-travel-check-here#text=No%20 visa%20 required%20 for%20 a%20 stay%20 not%20 exceeding%2021%20 days, the%20 stay%20 in%20 the%20 Philippines. &text=Bulgaria-,No%20 visa%20 required%20 for%20 a,exceeding%20 thirty%20 (30)%20 days.

India:

Visa required. Traveller must apply for a visa at the Philippine Embassy or Philippine Consulate in the country of legal residence. Visa required for business, conference, training- , official and other non-leisure travel. Indian passport holders do not require a visa for tourism travel not exceeding fourteen (14) days provided that they hold a valid visa or permanent residence permit issued by Australia, Canada, Japan, Singapore, Schengen country, you. K. Or USA Traveller must have a valid national passport for at least six (6) months, beyond the contemplated stay and a return or onward ticket to the next country of destination and (3) No derogatory record with the Bureau of Immigration.

UK:

No visa required for a stay not exceeding thirty (30) days. Traveller must hold valid ticket for return journey to country of origin or next country of destination and a passport valid for a period of at least six (6) months beyond the stay in the Philippines.

[Nightrider1]

I have been in Cebu now for a week. Getting here was stressful with all the requirements. I thought I would not have to show any till I got the international flight in San Fran but it started on the domestic flight from Chicago. American Airlines wanted to see everything. Lady was nice and we went through it step by step. When it came to the one health pass it was on my email so had to open it for her. She said why don't you take a screen shot of it so it will be on your photos and showed me how to do that. In San Fran had to how everything again with the addition of a temp check and fill out that form. I was initially booked San Fran to Cebu but pal changed it and I went to manila first and another plane to cebu. I rented a one bedroom in mabolo and crashed there for the rest of the day. Travel is wearing and especially now.

Many places I used to go are closed the fooda for groceries and the good breakfast place. My favorite bar resto, the money changer I used, malls are all open but with a mask policy as well as in taxie.

I think it will only get better as time goes on and cases fall. Chatmates are still sweet and loving and appreciative of the chocolates always. I'm happy I went through all the be / S it took to get here.

[Mr Enternational]

When it came to the one health pass it was on my email so had to open it for her. She said why don't you take a screen shot of it so it will be on your photos and showed me how to do that.I keep a picture of all my documents (passport, birth certificate, dd214, vaccine card, drivers license) in a folder in my phone. If I fill out some immigration thing online then I screenshot it as she told you and move it to that folder along with a screenshot of the reservation of the place I am staying and my flight reservation and boarding pass.

[Member #4794]

I'm happy I went through all the be / S it took to get here.I second that, it wasn't worth it when there was a quarantine but its well worth it right now. I almost forget about covid when in in the arms of a warm philipina.

[Si6798]

Thanks for the information.

That website is not updated. Looks like everything is opening up from April 1. Let's hope for the best.


According to this page you easier to enter Philippines on your UK passport. India passport has some conditions.

https://www.philippineconsulatela.org/consular-services-2/visa/dont-know-if-you-need-a-visa-to-travel-check-here#text=No%20 visa%20 required%20 for%20 a%20 stay%20 not%20 exceeding%2021%20 days, the%20 stay%20 in%20 the%20 Philippines. &text=Bulgaria-,No%20 visa%20 required%20 for%20 a,exceeding%20 thirty%20 (30)%20 days.

India:.

[AsianPursuits]

Thanks for the information.

That website is not updated. Looks like everything is opening up from April 1. Let's hope for the best.Great. So that you can help all of us, what is the source of your intel please.

[DoktorEn]

Planning my first trip to the Philippines later this year. I'm checking the PH subforums daily. My only other experience is one (1) trip to Thailand. My main interest is BBFSCIP with 18-year-olds. It went rather well in Thailand to be honest. My experience there was that:

1) ThaiFriendly freelancers never ask for condoms and generally seemed honest enough (real photos, real age, etc.).

2) Girls who work in massage parlors inevitably ask for condoms and are generally older. Young being 20, typical being mid-late 20's.

I'm generally not into manipulating girls to skip the condom. It should just never come up (as it didn't with the freelancers in Thailand). I was originally apprehensive about going to Thailand, but PH was closed when I went on my trip, and I was pleasantly surprised. I honestly don't care about bar girls; sure, it's nice to be able to look at the goods upfront, but finding them online and having them come over for ST / LT is enough for me. So my questions (for now) are:

A) do massage parlor girls in the PH also skew to the younger (18-20) side, and do they insist on condoms?

B) how's the online PinaLove / DIA / etc. Game these days?

C) Manila or AC? My experience from Thailand tells me Manila would be superior. I'm tall, white, reasonably attractive, and in my 30's, and I really enjoyed the amount of girls available in Bangkok compared to smaller places.

D) My experience in BKK was that a lot of the 18-19 year olds were not available for LT. Possibly because they still live at home. Does the same hold true for Manila (or AC)?

Many thanks in advance to all you pioneers!

[AsianPursuits]

PedroMorales,

Thank you. My question was to Si6798 to understand his insight.

Most of the airlines & travel agents source their data via an API to Amedeus the travel platform.

I agree that this situation changes daily which complicates any monger planning to visit multiple destinations.

[Nightrider1]

Anyone know if another negative rt-pcr is needed to leave phil to return to USA? I checked Qatar airlines website and it says if just transitioning through Doha no documents are needed except the ones from the country I am coming from (phil).

Thankyou.

[D Cups]

Planning my first trip to the Philippines later this year. I'm checking the PH subforums daily. My only other experience is one (1) trip to Thailand. My main interest is BBFSCIP with 18-year-olds. It went rather well in Thailand to be honest. My experience there was that:

1) ThaiFriendly freelancers never ask for condoms and generally seemed honest enough (real photos, real age, etc.).

2) Girls who work in massage parlors inevitably ask for condoms and are generally older. Young being 20, typical being mid-late 20's.

I'm generally not into manipulating girls to skip the condom. It should just never come up (as it didn't with the freelancers in Thailand). I was originally apprehensive about going to Thailand, but PH was closed when I went on my trip, and I was pleasantly surprised. I honestly don't care about bar girls; sure, it's nice to be able to look at the goods upfront, but finding them online and having them come over for ST / LT is enough for me. So my questions (for now) are:

A) do massage parlor girls in the PH also skew to the younger (18-20) side, and do they insist on condoms?Most of the answers to your questions are in the forums, and, and most girls don't care about your height, age or how handsome you think you are. Sheesh. Do your homework, search. Pretend you are back in medical school, or whatever school you went to.

[Ibaski]

Anyone know if another negative rt-pcr is needed to leave phil to return to USA? I checked Qatar airlines website and it says if just transitioning through Doha no documents are needed except the ones from the country I am coming from (phil).

Thankyou.You need Antigen test within one day (not 24 hours) for return to USA. I transited through Narita and had no issues.

[WestCoast1]

Anyone know if another negative rt-pcr is needed to leave phil to return to USA? I checked Qatar airlines website and it says if just transitioning through Doha no documents are needed except the ones from the country I am coming from (phil).

Thankyou.I flew out of NAIA. I keep screenshots of all of these in a folder on my phone. I noticed many pinoy have a folder they carry with all of their documents; what a PITA (they have to flip thru their paper documents to find and show each one asked for, they drop them on the floor, they must be put away after showing them, and so on). Needed at the time were as follows:

Recent negative PCR test (less than 48 hours prior). Ibaski says Antigen is now OK*.

Destination traveler form if needed in your inbound destination (LOS Angeles County has their own app for it; $500 fine for not having it ready to show at inbound LAX Immigration**). I had been completely unaware of this needed app until the PAL check-in clerk showed me the large sign on the wall requiring it. She was helpful in helping me download and fill in the app; a simple set of health questions (have you had a fever, you must wear a mask, blah blah). Its frustrating that I purchased my PAL airline ticket online and received no PAL notice of this (shocked, right?).

Purchased ticket and / or Boarding Pass.

Most recent visa extension (or SRRV, etc).

BI Exit Clearance Certificate if you were in Phils more than 6 months.

Passport picture page.

Vaccine card (or in my case, electronic version).

* There are labs everywhere that offer quick tests, completed in less than a day. I have posted pictures before here with the names and contact info of such labs (RTTF). For an additional fee they will send someone to your home for the swab a day prior to your departure. PAL also operates their own lab that requires no appointment, located next to Robinson's Mall Malate, on Padre Faura St, corner Adriatico (right next to their ticketing-sales office). You can do a social media search for such labs also. Costs for PCR tests were about p2500-3000 if you go to their lab, and 3500-5000 if they send the nurse to your place.

** Both frustrating and a joy, when I arrived at LAX, the Immigration officer only scanned my passport. "Where you coming from sir?" Philippines. "Welcome home and have a great day". But, but, but I have all these documents to show. . .

[Dashing Don]

You need Antigen test within one day (not 24 hours) for return to USA. I transited through Narita and had no issues.Yes its true. When arriving in the US nobody asks for the covid test results. I came in from Mexico last week and while they made a big deal of it in the Puerto Vallarta airport nobody mentioned it in JFK. Similarly coming from the phils a few weeks ago and Colombia before that.

In a broader sense, much of the rules and regulations that the US promulgates be it covid tests or policing foreign bank accounts and a myriad of other stuff, they delegate the enforcement to banks, foreign airlines etc with the proviso that if the said bank or airline doesn't comply they'll get whacked with a large fine, and as nobody can ignore the US market they comply.

There are multiple places in Manila to get the rapid test. The cost by Glorietta was 450 pesos and another place by Kalayaan and Makati ave got 1200 pesos.

[Ibaski]

Yes its true. When arriving in the US nobody asks for the covid test results. I came in from Mexico last week and while they made a big deal of it in the Puerto Vallarta airport nobody mentioned it in JFK. Similarly coming from the phils a few weeks ago and Colombia before that.

In a broader sense, much of the rules and regulations that the US promulgates be it covid tests or policing foreign bank accounts and a myriad of other stuff, they delegate the enforcement to banks, foreign airlines etc with the proviso that if the said bank or airline doesn't comply they'll get whacked with a large fine, and as nobody can ignore the US market they comply.

There are multiple places in Manila to get the rapid test. The cost by Glorietta was 450 pesos and another place by Kalayaan and Makati ave got 1200 pesos.You are so right about USA delegating. No one in USA asks for anything. They just rely that the checks with airlines will work. From what I know, USA is the only country where you do not have to go through immigration when you leave the country. While that example does not apply to current situation, it does reflect on the logic.

To Westie's point, USA always required only Antigen testing but reduced to one day from 72 hours prior. The problem with some of the countries is, to get into airport you need a PCR test. I. e. Kenya.

The reality is there is no one answer, you have to follow your itinerary and check all the boxes for entering and / or leaving a country to the T.

The good news is I see lot more travel now vs 2021 Fall and the lower air fares will follow. The bad news is we will be back to crowds be it in airports, hotels or wherever.

I personally decided not to go to Thailand with their silly additional PCR test requirements.

[Mr Enternational]

Yes its true. When arriving in the US nobody asks for the covid test results. I came in from Mexico last week and while they made a big deal of it in the Puerto Vallarta airport nobody mentioned it in JFK. Similarly coming from the phils a few weeks ago and Colombia before that.You need a covid test to board a plane to the USA. You do not need a covid test to enter the USA. It is the same as your boarding pass. You need that to get on the plane, but nobody will ask to see it once you get to the USA. Hopefully Slow Biden will get rid of that dumb rule soon.

[WestCoast1]

You need a covid test to board a plane to the USA. You do not need a covid test to enter the USA. It is the same as your boarding pass. You need that to get on the plane, but nobody will ask to see it once you get to the USA.Additionally. The 2 additional security screenings at the gate at NAIA (combined Xray / documents check) are required by the US, not PAL or the Phils government. Many of you will recall that even before Covid, at NAIA for flights going to America, often there was an additional passport check just to get into the seating area at the gate. Even leaving the seating area to go to the CR meant that you had to show your passport again to get back into the seating area. This was a requirement of the US.

[AsianPursuits]

Additionally. The 2 additional security screenings at the gate at NAIA (combined Xray / documents check) are required by the US, not PAL or the Phils government. Many of you will recall that even before Covid, at NAIA for flights going to America, often there was an additional passport check just to get into the seating area at the gate. Even leaving the seating area to go to the CR meant that you had to show your passport again to get back into the seating area. This was a requirement of the US.The airlines are the ones that carry the cost of having to return out of USA (and Oz and others) if the USA (or Au) immigration find that the pax should not have been allowed to board.

Then I guess there is also the identification issue that there are lots of nefarious people in Ph both inside and outside airports.

[Pute Nut]

Planning to travel into MNL late April, I have got the vaxx and testing requirements covered, still looking for the travel insurance. This policy should expressly cover Covid up to 35000 USD according to IATF. For those of you that already entered under this new scheme, which insurance did you get and how rigorously was this checked (and where)?

[Dg8787]

Mad house arrival the other night as many planes landed the same time. It appears to be a mad house but there is some order to it. Most of the mad house is created by the arrivalees. Just listen and follow the instructions.

Upon walking up to pre-immigration area there are desks for inspection of your documents which you will line up for. Documents include your:

Passport,

Airline boarding pass.

Recent negative Covid test.

Vaccination card.

And proof of heath insurance.

As simple as that.

Seniors will be directed to lines for seniors. This line is faster if you are not behind slow moving seniors.

At the desk they will review and approve your documents at which time they will stamp your boarding ticket. I don't know what they do if you have a photo boarding pass. Best to have a printed one.

After the approval desk you will proceed to the immigration kiosks. No lines there. Plenty of immigration officers present.

They stamp your passport and you are on your way.

Approximately 10 minutes wait to stamp at document review. 3 minutes at immigration.

Down to baggage claim. As always bags are already there on the carousel. If you are United priority then your bags are already pulled and set aside next to the line af carousel.

Get your bags and proceed thru customs to arrivals. At that point the airport itself is not very crowded compared to 2 years ago.

Money exchanged at is 51. Xx peso per $1. 00. Don't care if prime exchange rate is 52+.

Beeway driver pick up is outside at Bay 8. Lots of people there. Some confusion in locating the driver.

Drove straight to Angeles City. The new bypass, expressway or whatever you want to call it is great. No traffic but have to abide by the speed law 60 kph to NLEX. Once on NLEX speed limit is 100 kph. No slow traffic along the way. I would say trip was less than 90 minutes.

No need to over think the process. Just have your documents prepared and ready.

[Goferring]

Documents include your:

Passport,

Airline boarding pass.

Recent negative Covid test.

Vaccination card.

And proof of heath insurance.

As simple as that.

One paper copy of each is enough?

[WestCoast1]

Just listen and follow the instructions.

Upon walking up to pre-immigration area there are desks for inspection of your documents which you will line up for. Documents include your:

Passport,

Airline boarding pass.

Recent negative Covid test.

Vaccination card.

And proof of heath insurance.

As simple as that.

Seniors will be directed to lines for seniors. This line is faster if you are not behind slow moving seniors.Welcome home, soldier. Good descriptive report and stick-to-it attitude deserves a pic. Booby morsel getting f*cked from behind and buzzing out another. I felt used.

[Dg8787]

One paper copy of each is enough?Yes. They just look at them and do not keep them.

I did not need a copy of my passport or the vaccination card.

Unbeknownst to me, my printed copy of the Covid test cut off the negative result. Luckily I had AT&T cell service and was able to pull up the email showing negative result and was cleared.

Prior to my United Airline check in they requested I fill out and register One Health Pass. You would download your information and be emailed your registration and QR code. At the United check in they will scan the QR code.

Upon arrival they will scan your One Health Pass QR code at the first check point. I don't know what happens if you don't have one. The QR made it pretty simple to move on.

[Dg8787]

Planning to travel into MNL late April, I have got the vaxx and testing requirements covered, still looking for the travel insurance. This policy should expressly cover Covid up to 35000 USD according to IATF. For those of you that already entered under this new scheme, which insurance did you get and how rigorously was this checked (and where)?Search online for travel insurance. Many companies will come up. Easy to fill out and buy. I bought Allaniz Insurance for 50 k medical.

Hint. If you don't care about insurance for delays or lost baggage or ticket cost or other BS then put in a lower amount for ticket cost and nothing for lodging. The price drops then.

[WestCoast1]

Search online for travel insurance. Many companies will come up. Easy to fill out and buy. I bought Allaniz Insurance for 50 k medical.Try here also:

https://www.squaremouth.com/destinations/philippines

[Pute Nut]

Thanks guys, yeah tried my google fu skills before posting, but there's nothing near the Thai clear cut options. For Thailand I bought a policy online (1800 baht) and they promptly returned a 35-page policy document which was approved for my Thailand Pass. I found one for PH now that looks OK, cost is 2800 pesos for 31 days. I don't really need any insurance, this is solely a show policy, so I'm trying to figure out what will pass at the various checkpoints. Knowing the fluidity of all things PH I don't want to drop more than needed.


Try here also:

https://www.squaremouth.com/destinations/philippines

[WestCoast1]

Thanks guys, yeah tried my google fu skills before posting, but there's nothing near the Thai clear cut options. For Thailand I bought a policy online (1800 baht) and they promptly returned a 35-page policy document which was approved for my Thailand Pass. I found one for PH now that looks OK, cost is 2800 pesos for 31 days. I don't really need any insurance, this is solely a show policy, so I'm trying to figure out what will pass at the various checkpoints. Knowing the fluidity of all things PH I don't want to drop more than needed.I am concerned of something. Your Thailand Pass is approved in advance. The Philippines does not give any approval prior to arrival? What if you buy the wrong kind?

The online gamut can be disconcerting when trying to buy only medical coverage. Alianz had a medical-only plan ($50 k). For the others, they want to sell you a comprehensive plan. However most of us don't need trip cancellation or lost luggage insurance (possibly already covered by your credit card or other insurances).

Question: Most of us would buy an initial plan (say, a few weeks or 1 month) to show for getting into the country. But does one have to show an insurance extension if you extend your visa? If you plan to extend your visa many times, do you have to re-purchase the medical coverage?

[Dashing Don]

Thanks guys, yeah tried my google fu skills before posting, but there's nothing near the Thai clear cut options. For Thailand I bought a policy online (1800 baht) and they promptly returned a 35-page policy document which was approved for my Thailand Pass. I found one for PH now that looks OK, cost is 2800 pesos for 31 days. I don't really need any insurance, this is solely a show policy, so I'm trying to figure out what will pass at the various checkpoints. Knowing the fluidity of all things PH I don't want to drop more than needed.Seven corners travel insurance. $31 for my trip a few weeks ago. Absolutely no problem with the certificate no matter who looked at it.

[Pute Nut]

I am concerned of something. Your Thailand Pass is approved in advance. The Philippines does not give any approval prior to arrival? What if you buy the wrong kind?

Exactly. Having previously lived in the PH this is not new to me, rather business as usual. So, if we go to the horse's mouth, the Interagency Task Force (IATF) the the requirement is "specified" as follows:

"Obtain, prior to arrival, a travel insurance for COVID-19 treatment costs from reputed insurers, with a minimum coverage of USD 35,000. 00 for the duration of Their stay in the Philippines. "

So I guess unless you buy it from an illreputed insurer, you're all set, until some PH officer thinks otherwise.

[Pute Nut]

Thanks, sounds great. Got a crazy number quote from them though (three figures US) so obviously they don't like me. But as any reasonably good looking policy seems to suffice, we just need some cheap insurance mill that is not yet ill-reputed in the Philippines ;)


Seven corners travel insurance. $31 for my trip a few weeks ago. Absolutely no problem with the certificate no matter who looked at it.

[Albert9989]

Thanks, sounds great. Got a crazy number quote from them though (three figures US) so obviously they don't like me. But as any reasonably good looking policy seems to suffice, we just need some cheap insurance mill that is not yet ill-reputed in the Philippines.But is it only in Europe where we have travel insurance attached to our credit card?

I have checked mine (Mastercard, but Visa has the same) and it covers all medical expenses including covid during travels for 1 Million Euros and we can get a written confirmation before departure. And there are also other risks covered, lost luggage, travel delays, etc etc.

And its free, or included in the cost of the credit card, about 50 to 100 Euros / year.

[Pute Nut]

But is it only in Europe where we have travel insurance attached to our credit card?

I have checked mine (Mastercard, but Visa has the same) and it covers all medical expenses including covid during travels for 1 Million Euros
.Good for you, did you check the small print, for example things like covering only trips orginating from your home country (common)? In my case, travelling from Thailand, it would not qualify. Will your "free" insurer expressly state something like "including covid" and a figure over 35,000 USD. Then congrats!

This is not really about getting insurance, this is about getting a piece of paper that looks OK at any checkpoint.

[Dg8787]

Good for you, did you check the small print, for example things like covering only trips orginating from your home country (common)? In my case, travelling from Thailand, it would not qualify. Will your "free" insurer expressly state something like "including covid" and a figure over 35,000 USD. Then congrats!

This is not really about getting insurance, this is about getting a piece of paper that looks OK at any checkpoint.If that is the case, why don't you just fabricate one!

[WestCoast1]

But is it only in Europe where we have travel insurance attached to our credit card?

I have checked mine (Mastercard, but Visa has the same) and it covers all medical expenses including covid during travels for 1 Million Euros and we can get a written confirmation before departure. And there are also other risks covered, lost luggage, travel delays, etc etc.Just checked mine. While it does offer a number of benefits, including travel benefits, it appears to cover many things except for direct medical expenses. It covers trip cancellation insurance, death benefit, lost luggage, referrals to hospitals and doctors (including finding a doctor willing to travel to your place), and emergency medical transportation (to $100,000). However in the disclaimer it clearly does not cover hospital or physician fees, Rx, dental, and so on. For fun I checked several other US bank's cards and they appear similar, no medical coverage.

My decent private health insurance is only valid inside my own country. They are willing to reimburse me after I pay for services overseas, at their out-of-network rate, when I turn in receipts (they are not willing to deal with foreign medical providers). Hence, while I have more than 20 x the $35 k USD in medical insurance protection, I can not show that outside the country. Great!

[Albert9989]

Just checked mine. While it does offer a number of benefits, including travel benefits, it appears to cover many things except for direct medical expenses. It covers trip cancellation insurance, death benefit, lost luggage, referrals to hospitals and doctors (including finding a doctor willing to travel to your place), and emergency medical transportation (to $100,000). However in the disclaimer it clearly does not cover hospital or physician fees, Rx, dental, and so on. For fun I checked several other US bank's cards and they appear similar, no medical coverage.

My decent private health insurance is only valid inside my own country. They are willing to reimburse me after I pay for services overseas, at their out-of-network rate, when I turn in receipts (they are not willing to deal with foreign medical providers). Hence, while I have more than 20 x the $35 k USD in medical insurance protection, I can not show that outside the country. Great!Ahh, I agree that reading and understanding the real coverage is always painful!

But the general principle is that, these insurances for overseas travels, they pay for medicals treatments and hospitalization expense in advance, but you accept to refund them for the part which will be taken in charge by your national medical policy, and they will cover the expenses not covered by your local policy.

Anyway, if the goal was to get a paper as a proof of coverage to pass the controls at the border, as said by Pute Nut, these insurances linked to your credit card are enough if they can print a paper confirming their coverage including also Covid.

[Pute Nut]

If that is the case, why don't you just fabricate one!Nah, I wouldn't risk my disreputation for that.

[WestCoast1]

Ahh, I agree that reading and understanding the real coverage is always painful!

But the general principle is that, these insurances for overseas travels, they pay for medicals treatments and hospitalization expense in advance, but you accept to refund them for the part which will be taken in charge by your national medical policy, and they will cover the expenses not covered by your local policy.

Anyway, if the goal was to get a paper as a proof of coverage to pass the controls at the border, as said by Pute Nut, these insurances linked to your credit card are enough if they can print a paper confirming their coverage including also Covid.I read the benefits and the disclaimer, and I contacted my CC bank. While overseas, they do not provide medical coverage in regards to hospitals (inpatient or out), doctors, providers, Rx, etc. However they DO provide for medical transportation (I find that odd). They will not provide documentation for visa purposes that says that they do provide medical coverage while overseas (as they don't provide those coverages, spelled out clearly in their disclaimer). You pay medical expenses yourself, get receipts, and get reimbursed later for part of our medical expenses (at the 'out-of-network' rate). That is not going to be good enough for any government (Phils is not the only government requiring it). Inbound governments such as Phils will want to see a policy that covers expenses paid directly to the provider (which, in effect for Covid, might be the Philippine government as they pay for a lot of the Covid care). They will be uninterested in my telling them that I can afford to pay for those expenses myself (in my case true) and get reimbursed later, as there is no way for them to confirm that upon my arrival. Imagine if I showed this info to Phils inbound Immigration, entered the country, got sick, and then could not afford to pay the hospital bill myself. My US health insurance policy would be no good to anyone at that point. The Phils government or hospital would be on the hook for the expense.

As my CC will not provide proof of medical coverage, I will have to purchase a separate policy. In researching, I find many policies available. But odd things happen. I contacted one of the companies and asked them to provide policy details and cost for medical coverage only. I gave them the particulars they asked for: My current location, my age, country I was visiting (Phils), dates I was visiting Phils (3 weeks), and so on. They sent back a policy for $50,000 USD medical coverage, costing $19, no deductible, good for 2 weeks. They directed me to their website to enter specifics and buy a policy. Once on their site and entered the same details, the policy ballooned to $258, no deductible, good for 1 month. The site has some check-boxes you can tick on / off. I noticed when I tick 'on' the box that says I NEED A VISA COVER LETTER WITH PLAN DETAILS, the price JUMPS.

Another website returned my email after I sent them the same particulars as they requested, with several policies that had annual-only premiums ($3500 is not unusual). I replied, reminding them that I needed 3 weeks of policy. "We stopped doing that sir". Insurance companies must be making out like bandits as international leisure travel is exploding and everyone traveling *must* have a policy.

[Sammon]

This is the exact reason I cancelled my reservation and all bookings. I contacted many insurance companies like you. Some maybe hole in the wall company but they all want money. As for claims I doubt they will pay. For the purpose of visiting they maybe okay. I doubt very much Philippine government is on the hook foe hospital bills. Maybe just for Philippine citizens but for foreigners the hospital will certainly not release you till they get paid whether you are alive or not. I believe it has happened. Even for Philippine locals it has happened if I can believe them.

Fortunately now many of the countries have started lifting restrictions and hopefully Philippines and Thailand will start soon. If they think opening partially for tourism will succeed they are not thinking right. Only desperate ones come but to get back to the time before all tourists are looking for complete freedom for entering and to travel to any places in the country. Vaccine certification maybe the norm for foreseeable future and also app to be filled to enter. All the rest of the restrictions should go away so that we can learn to live with covid.

[Axel Heyst]

This is the exact reason I cancelled my reservation and all bookings. I contacted many insurance companies like you. Some maybe hole in the wall company but they all want money. As for claims I doubt they will pay. For the purpose of visiting they maybe okay. I doubt very much Philippine government is on the hook foe hospital bills. Maybe just for Philippine citizens but for foreigners the hospital will certainly not release you till they get paid whether you are alive or not. I believe it has happened. Even for Philippine locals it has happened if I can believe them.

Fortunately now many of the countries have started lifting restrictions and hopefully Philippines and Thailand will start soon. If they think opening partially for tourism will succeed they are not thinking right. Only desperate ones come but to get back to the time before all tourists are looking for complete freedom for entering and to travel to any places in the country. Vaccine certification maybe the norm for foreseeable future and also app to be filled to enter. All the rest of the restrictions should go away so that we can learn to live with covid.I agree with you totally. The quarantines and tests upon arrival have kept me away since this pandemic broke. Luckily I am only 8.5 hours by air from Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro. I travelled there 2 x in 2021 and going on my 3rd trip in 4 weeks. No quarantine, no in country testing, plenty of super friendly girls.

The only fly in the ointment as far as the PI and Thailand lifting their entry restrictions forthwith is the current Omicron outbreak in China and Hong Kong. It is very serious. The question is will the PI and LOS lift their entry restrictions on vaxed farangs and other foreigners from low Covid countries while they keep tight entry restrictions on Chinese citizens or will they keep all the current restrictions in place until Omicron in China dissipates whenever that is.

Covid: the gift that keeps on giving.

[WestCoast1]

This is the exact reason I cancelled my reservation and all bookings. I contacted many insurance companies like you. Some maybe hole in the wall company but they all want money.For myself I don't care if they pay or don't. My US health insurance would pay later. I only need the document to enter the country. I really DO find it interesting that some insurance companies want to charge considerably extra to provide a printed Visa letter attesting to their policy. They aren't even printing the paper, they email it to you, so it costs them nothing. It suggests that the higher price they are charging for the Visa letter is the true policy; while charging much less for no Visa letter (actual proof) suggests that the lower priced policy is just a scam, as S says.


All the rest of the restrictions should go away so that we can learn to live with covid.That's an opinion (and I don't disagree). However living there for several years (and during most all the current pandemic), I don't see pinoy leadership thinking that way. They give little thought about foreigners. And they are fairly superstitious, meaning logic flies out the window.


they are not thinking right. Exactly! Try to think like my menstruating ex-wife. Or from one of my fav movie lines:

"I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability". -- Jack Nicholson; As Good as It Gets.

[Mahaba]

What exactly is "pinoy leadership"?


For myself I don't care if they pay or don't. My US health insurance would pay later. I only need the document to enter the country. I really DO find it interesting that some insurance companies want to charge considerably extra to provide a printed Visa letter attesting to their policy. They aren't even printing the paper, they email it to you, so it costs them nothing. It suggests that the higher price they are charging for the Visa letter is the true policy; while charging much less for no Visa letter (actual proof) suggests that the lower priced policy is just a scam, as S says.

That's an opinion (and I don't disagree). However living there for several years (and during most all the current pandemic), I don't see pinoy leadership thinking that way. They give little thought about foreigners. And they are fairly superstitious, meaning logic flies out the window.

Exactly! Try to think like my menstruating ex-wife. Or from one of my fav movie lines:

"I think of a man and I take away reason and accountability". -- Jack Nicholson; As Good as It Gets.

[WestCoast1]

What exactly is "pinoy leadership"?You have asked the $64,000 question.

[Dashing Don]

I've read recently on Philippine Lifestyle News about airport authorities in Manila congratulating themselves about the uptick in arrivals: 96000 arrivals in a recent period but I believe this is misplaced. Most of the 96000 are probably returning Filipinos. A better indicator is Philippine Airlines schedule from JFK direct to Manila for the next month which I monitor. The schedule is a shadow of before with one or two flights weekly and some flights are not direct to Manila but actually go through Vancouver! First time I have ever seen that. The fares are sky high. Obviously the demand for daily flights is not there.

I've watched the walk around' videos of Makati on Youtube. Empty streets! Just like when I was there a few weeks ago. The towers on Ayala Ave are still empty.

IATF boss Jaime Morente says that even if the current Alert Level 1 is reduced to Alert Level 0, masks will be required while walking around outside. I for one am not spending thousands of dollars to fly to the Phils and have to mask up in 90 degree weather. Its completely dumb. I'm sure I'm not the only person who feels this way.

The Phils will never make the first move on covid. They'll wait until other countries relax guidelines and then the Phils will follow.

I've never been a fan of Angeles but its the only option right now. At least the bars are open. Normally my mo is to book into a nice hotel in Makati and work the sites. Its been great for a long time. Now however, without even leaving home, I can tell by the traffic on my profile that its way down from pre covid. The girls I do talk to are tapped out. Don't even have phones.

This 'opening up' appears to be an illusion.

[Dg8787]

What exactly is "pinoy leadership"?It is the best money can buy sir!

[FuriousGeorge]

Have you watched this guys stuff? Makati looks pretty fun in the right places. I'll only be there 2 days before heading to AC but I'm sure I'll find some trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc7RgBfcCuk

I've seen plenty of walk around videos and many many foreigners walk around maskless outdoors. I will be one of them. I'm guessing nobody will bother me but if they do I'll let you know.




I've watched the walk around' videos of Makati on Youtube. Empty streets! Just like when I was there a few weeks ago. The towers on Ayala Ave are still empty.


This 'opening up' appears to be an illusion.

[Drbombay]

Well, I'm going to test the waters this week by heading to Manila for work and for fun! I've made some inroads from site called Alua. It's expensive on the Lurker side, but I've so far set up meetings with working ones that will come to terms and once we meet get their other contact info and I'm going to be done with the app (Alua) (at least I will be anyway).

Look for reports coming soon!

[Dashing Don]

Have you watched this guys stuff? Makati looks pretty fun in the right places. I'll only be there 2 days before heading to AC but I'm sure I'll find some trouble.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vc7RgBfcCuk

I've seen plenty of walk around videos and many many foreigners walk around maskless outdoors. I will be one of them. I'm guessing nobody will bother me but if they do I'll let you know.This guy's videos of dancing are in BGC with upscale Filipina career girls. A far cry from the what the guys here are looking for.

As to seeing lots of foreigners walking around maskless in Makati, can you point us to those videos? I didn't see hardly any foreigners when I was there a few weeks ago, and if there are more now, they certainly aren't walking around Makati without masks. Compliance among Filipinos is practically 100% and you'll stick out like a sore thumb. Just asking for trouble.

While I wish you a merry vacation, with Burgos empty and EDSA closed, my guess is you'll decamp up to AC when reality sets in.

[RacShack]

This guy's videos of dancing are in BGC with upscale Filipina career girls. A far cry from the what the guys here are looking for.

As to seeing lots of foreigners walking around maskless in Makati, can you point us to those videos? I didn't see hardly any foreigners when I was there a few weeks ago, and if there are more now, they certainly aren't walking around Makati without masks. Compliance among Filipinos is practically 100% and you'll stick out like a sore thumb. Just asking for trouble.

While I wish you a merry vacation, with Burgos empty and EDSA closed, my guess is you'll decamp up to AC when reality sets in.What's BGC? And are these upscale Filipina career girls for hire? Thanks any information on this subject will be great! The ones in video look really friendly!

[GoodEnough]

This guy's videos of dancing are in BGC with upscale Filipina career girls. A far cry from the what the guys here are looking for.

As to seeing lots of foreigners walking around maskless in Makati, can you point us to those videos? I didn't see hardly any foreigners when I was there a few weeks ago, and if there are more now, they certainly aren't walking around Makati without masks. Compliance among Filipinos is practically 100% and you'll stick out like a sore thumb. Just asking for trouble.
Thanks DD for pointing out that "upscale Filipina career girls" are not synonymous with the P4 P variety most guys on this board appear to seek. Filipina doctors, lawyers, nurses and business executives really aren't looking for a few thousand pesos from random foreigners, many of whom would not be allowed into the family house. Really upscale Filipinas don't go on most dating apps, don't care about foreigners, take months to get to know, and would be offended at the notion that somehow they're available to the casual punter. It should come as no surprise that there's a class / education structure here and those from the upper middle and upper socio-economic realms are, in general, not easily accessible to the normal herds of horny foreigners trolling online and in bars. That's not to disparage guys who do; it's merely stating a fact of life.

As to the mask wearing, it is, as DD also correctly points out, just about universal, and if you really want to piss off the locals where I am, trying walking around without one. Here in Davao at least, you would be refused entrance everywhere at best, and at worst you would be fined by the police. It's a great way to call unwanted attention to yourself.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

This guy's videos of dancing are in BGC with upscale Filipina career girls. A far cry from the what the guys here are looking for.Just pre-pandemic, Feb-March 2020, I took several different gals into Movida bar in Poblacion (Burgos, corner Luna). Its an upscale place. I was in there solo a few times also, probably 3 x each week with or without a date. The food / drink is good, and the live bands were good. At least once a week we ran into IG influencers or professional dancers (quite possibly hired by the bar). They are all young and beautiful, but they are not there for pickup or takeout (in fact they are not there to chat with customers).


to seeing lots of foreigners walking around maskless in Makati, can you point us to those videos? I didn't see hardly any foreigners when I was there a few weeks ago, and if there are more now, they certainly aren't walking around Makati without masks. Compliance among Filipinos is practically 100% and you'll stick out like a sore thumb. Just asking for trouble.

While I wish you a merry vacation, with Burgos empty and EDSA closed, my guess is you'll decamp up to AC when reality sets in.I noted in the vid that at the start of the vid, the gent is walking around maskless, while others on the street are not. But at 1:14 in the vid, he is masked, as are the people on the street. Same at 3:09. When people are not wearing masks, they are eating or in restaurants where masks aren't worn.

OTOH, as things lighten, its possible to get out and have a good time there, so thumbs-up to the vid itself.


What's BGC? And are these upscale Filipina career girls for hire? Thanks any information on this subject will be great! The ones in video look really friendly!BGC = Bonafacio Global City, and guessing they are not for hire.

[Pute Nut]

For myself I don't care if they pay or don't. My US health insurance would pay later. I only need the document to enter the country. Exactly, so why not print your own ;)

I started to check around here in Pattaya if they can find a Thai policy that fits. If checks are sloppy in Phils, all I need is a policy that looks OK to BKK checkin staff, right? Is there anyone aboard who did the BKK-MNL route with experience of BKK airport scrutiny?

[WestCoast1]

Exactly, so why not print your own ;)

I started to check around here in Pattaya if they can find a Thai policy that fits. If checks are sloppy in Phils, all I need is a policy that looks OK to BKK checkin staff, right? Is there anyone aboard who did the BKK-MNL route with experience of BKK airport scrutiny?The only real concern is if you get caught. Deported and black-listed.

[Pute Nut]

The only real concern is if you get caught. Deported and black-listed.Yah and it's not very desirable to be undesirable. There must be a smart solution to this idiotic requirement.

[WestCoast1]

Yah and it's not very desirable to be undesirable. There must be a smart solution to this idiotic requirement.Not only getting caught at Immigration. Imagine in-country if you caught Covid, or had any other health problem that landed you in the hospital. "Sir, your traveler's medical insurance please?" You hand over your fake, they call your fake insurance company to confirm coverage, or such. Busted and on your way home permanently. Or Thailand.

[Pute Nut]

Busted and on your way home permanently. Or Thailand.Right, and it's not worth it to risk this over a few measly bluenotes. But why the lethargic response from Philippine insurance companies? Their Thai equivalents quickly launched streamlined products that you can purchase online with a few clicks. I got my 35-page Thai PDF policy within a few minutes.

[The Rose]

Thanks DD for pointing out that "upscale Filipina career girls" are not synonymous with the P4 P variety most guys on this board appear to seek. Filipina doctors, lawyers, nurses and business executives really aren't looking for a few thousand pesos from random foreigners, many of whom would not be allowed into the family house. Really upscale Filipinas don't go on most dating apps, don't care about foreigners, take months to get to know, and would be offended at the notion that somehow they're available to the casual punter. It should come as no surprise that there's a class / education structure here and those from the upper middle and upper socio-economic realms are, in general, not easily accessible to the normal herds of horny foreigners trolling online and in bars. That's not to disparage guys who do; it's merely stating a fact of life.I think that a green card is pretty good bait for a foreigner to lure a Filipina. As much wherewithal as a middle class or upper class Filipina may have, she still has a Philippine passport which won't get her into many places. A Filipina MD would love the opportunity to practice in the USA. There's a Starbucks outside of the Angeles Foundation Medical School. That's a good place to meet your doctor wife.

[WestCoast1]

Right, and it's not worth it to risk this over a few measly bluenotes. But why the lethargic response from Philippine insurance companies? Their Thai equivalents quickly launched streamlined products that you can purchase online with a few clicks. I got my 35-page Thai PDF policy within a few minutes.Excellent question. In addition to the lack of Phils companies streamlined (medical-only) products, many outside companies don't offer such. And those that do charge exorbitant prices (see pic for a 30-day medical-only policy quote). It took hours of looking online (and emailing insurance companies back / forth to force them to admit that they offer a medical-only option). One would have expected any number of pinoy companies to have offered such a quick, easy, and profitable item. Below is an example of an experience that I had with one company (of several) , mostly thru email:

1) On their website, I asked for a quote for $50,000 medical-only insurance.

2) Their emailed response from 'Foreign Traveler expert' Jane: Items M (medical), O, P, Q, S, T, and V: 30 days, $2200.

3) My response: Sharpen your pencil please. I ordered on the website a quote for item M only.

4) Response from Jane: "OK, items M (medical), O, P, Q, and S: 30 days, $568".

5) My response: Sharpen your pencil please. I ordered on the website a quote for item M only.

6) Jane: "OK, items M (medical) and O (medical transportation): 30 days, $468".

7) My response: Nevermind. Too expensive, and I don't need the transportation item ($250,000 coverage). You are wasting my time.

8) Jane: "OK medical only: 30 days, $368".

9) My response: Too expensive. Other companies charge much less. Do you have a lower-priced option for 30 days, $50 k medical?

10) Jane: "No sir".

Bajesus! Like pulling teeth to get them down to that price, which is also too high (found it for about 1/3 of that price elsewhere).

[WestCoast1]

Here is one with reasonable prices. Thanks to the guy who provided this.

https://www.squaremouth.com/

[Sammon]

Here is one with reasonable prices. Thanks to the guy who provided this.

https://www.squaremouth.com/It is a minefield. Do not think just because you have the insurance they will be cover admission to hospitals, quarantine etc. First you pay, get the bill and then hope to get reimbursed by the insurance company.

This is a stupid rule. It was put in place by many countries before but now they have withdrawn that requirement for vaccinated persons.

I was talking to some people in Philippines and they all said nothing will change before the elections. I believe it is in end of May.

It is possible USA will withdraw testing requirements by the end of April. Cambodia is fully open without restrictions.

[WestCoast1]

It is a minefield. Concur! It has been a blizzard of misinformation.


Do not think just because you have the insurance they will be cover admission to hospitals, quarantine etc. First you pay, get the bill and then hope to get reimbursed by the insurance company.Do you mean squaremouth.com? Or alternately do you mean all of said insurance policies? Board members here have already used it.*


This is a stupid rule.Could not agree more. Why will they make me purchase a policy separate from my own normal health insurance? My current policy re-imburses my medical expenses while overseas (it says so in the policy, my insurance refuses to deal with overseas medical providers). Why must I purchase a separate policy that will also only re-imburse me for expenses?

The premise for the insurance is that the Phils government does not want to be on the hook for tourists hospital bills, should he not be able to pay at the hospital (which I have seen happen in real time). Immigration has no idea if you can afford to pay for medical expenses when you enter the country, hence I understand the need to see a policy. But that does not hold up to scrutiny if your policy is a client-reimbursed-later policy, as the tourist might not be able to pay at the hospital / Q hotel in the first place. The premise only holds up to scrutiny if the policy pays direct to the hospital / provider.

Do any of the recent arrival gents know if their policy is 1) customer re-imburse, or 2) pays direct to provider?

* Just read the fine print in some of the policies. Reimbursement-only:

Emergency Medical can reimburse the costs to treat a medical emergency during a trip.

What does Emergency Medical cover?
EMERGENCY ACCIDENT & SICKNESS MEDICAL EXPENSE BENEFIT

Benefits will be paid for Medical Expenses incurred by You, up to the Maximum Benefit Amount shown in the Schedule of Benefits, subject to the following:

a. Sickness must first commence or manifest itself and Injury must first occur while on Your Trip;
b. only Medical Expenses incurred by You during Your Trip will be reimbursed. Medical Expenses incurred after You return from Your Trip are not covered;
c. benefits payable as a result of incurred Medical Expenses will only be paid after benefits have been paid under any other valid and collectible insurance in effect for You or in accordance with a provision in jurisdictions where excess coverage provisions are not permitted.

[Dg8787]

Most of the places and restaurants are requiring temperature checks and vaccination cards. Most vaccinated Filipinos have the cards with a QR code. QR code is download on their cellphones or in photos. Most places have a QR reader so no lines are backed up.