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TitanJones
04-06-23, 02:01
Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better. There are tons of girls that look like that in Thailand and especially in Cambodia. I've read there are alot of thicker girls with tummies there, but are there plenty of skinny looking girls? I like them as well <25 yo.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience. I am primarily there to find spinners, but it would be fun to relax on a beach somehere similar to pattaya where I can do the beach and still bang girls. Any tips or itinerary ideas?
WestCoast1
04-06-23, 21:59
By good fortune (and Google), its International Beaver Day. Get some.
Wicked Roger
04-06-23, 23:09
Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better. There are tons of girls that look like that in Thailand and especially in Cambodia. I've read there are alot of thicker girls with tummies there, but are there plenty of skinny looking girls? I like them as well <25 yo.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience. I am primarily there to find spinners, but it would be fun to relax on a beach somehere similar to pattaya where I can do the beach and still bang girls. Any tips or itinerary ideas?Why not just rock up in the country and find out? Alternatively you could look at the PG for advice. Or another idea is to PM me as too much info for one post.
Look forward to the PM.
Have never been to phillipines but have always wanted to visit. I prefer the skinny, flat tummy type of girl. The hungrier they look the better.
Also I've never been there before. For a first time visit, should I spend the whole time in manila or should I travel to get the full experience.The Philippines is an archipelago of thousands of islands rather than one contiguous land mass. Consequently girls from various areas have very different physical features and attitudes. There are many areas with slim, spinner type girls. Sub-40 kgs are not a rarity. One slight difference to Thailand is that they will all be short and flat chested. Tall and slim is very hard to find. Tall, slim and big boobs is a unicorn.
Luzon, Lyete and Samar girls feature highly. You can go there or go to the areas that they migrate to in search or work (legitimate or non). Manila, Angeles, Cebu are good starting points. Regional centres can be fun but difficult for newbies to find their bearings immediately upon arrival.
If staying for only 2 weeks, I would pick two or three areas of interest and stay there. Moving between multiple centres can burn up time and money in relocation and finding new opportunities every time.
Water with girls is Subic, Cebu, Sabang and maybe Bohol.
Enjoy. G.
MrHappyKat
04-07-23, 04:54
I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:
1. Everyone in the Philippines speaks English. Except Grab drivers. LOL.
2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.
3. Grab vs GCash: I was able to attach my US credit card to my Grab wallet. A big convenience. I was not able to do so with a GCash account, and only realized why when I found out that according to GCash's TOS, the service is only available to Philippine citizens.
4. Its hot. Not warm, not temperate, not balmy. HOT. Ave mid-day temps during my 16 days was mid-90 degrees.
5. Lady boys are present, essentially as described in various discussions and reports. I had no problem spotting them, but then I was never drunk during my visit. Those that I did talk to were freindly and quick to self-identify. Never got the sense that a LB was trying to dupe me.
6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.
7. Hotels:
-Price is not always indicative of quality. Read reviews, send emails with specific questions about specific needs in advance.
-Bring a travel size bar of soap and shampoo. The 1st hotel I stayed at had a shower gel dispenser in the shower that was empty. And it stayed empty while I was there.
-You are almost always within 1-2 blocks of a 7-11 which will have needed items like soap, shampoo, power adapters, and bottled water.
8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.
9. Do the online eTravel forms a day before you fly. Immigrations and customs at NAIA were fast and easy (for a US citizen).
10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.
There probably other observations I could make. But these are most significant I can think of.
Will I return? Most definitely. But it may be 6-12-18+ months before I can actually schedule it.
All in all, I allocated a generous budget of $10,000 USD for my 16-day trip, including Business Class air fare, and I came in within budget. But to be sure, I could have made less expensive decisions if needed.
Transporter
04-07-23, 05:08
I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:
4. Its hot. Not warm, not temperate, not balmy. HOT. Ave mid-day temps during my 16 days was mid-90 degrees.
March, April, & May for some reasons seem to be the hottest. This is precisely why if I can only find time to go once a year I choose these months. If you think about it, my condo is extremely comfortable with AC in all rooms. Plus it tends to congregate all the able bodies to places that have AC, the concentration makes my valuable time more focused.
2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.
6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.
7. Hotels:
-Price is not always indicative of quality. Read reviews, send emails with specific questions about specific needs in advance.
-Bring a travel size bar of soap and shampoo. The 1st hotel I stayed at had a shower gel dispenser in the shower that was empty. And it stayed empty while I was there.
-You are almost always within 1-2 blocks of a 7-11 which will have needed items like soap, shampoo, power adapters, and bottled water.
8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.
10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.
All in all, I allocated a generous budget of $10,000 USD for my 16-day trip, including Business Class air fare, and I came in within budget. But to be sure, I could have made less expensive decisions if needed.Firstly, thanks for your great reports and up-to-date information. Some general responses:
2/. In PI, Google Maps will get you within 100 m of your intended target, then you're on your own. I have no idea why, but it's programmers take great delight to guiding me to the rear of buildings.
6/. There is always going to be guys with their glass half empty and those having fun at a funeral.
7 a /. The same can be said about girls: price and appearance is no guarantee of quality or performance.
7 b&c /. Toiletries are available everywhere. Remember small, <100 ML bottles for any carryon luggage.
8/. Wise is very useful for cash via ATMs and great FX rates.
10 a /. It's very common for girls to insist on covered when within earshot of friends, mamas etc and mysteriously forget behind closed doors. If that's changed, then a major selling point for the PI has disappeared.
10 b /. I'm $10 k per month. That's flying cattle but with an expensive cover story to maintain while travelling.
Thanks again. G.
WestCoast1
04-07-23, 06:05
I've been home for 6 days now and I think this is a good time to post some random thoughts, observations and lessons:Great reports.
2. Speaking of Grab, addresses in the Philippines, or at least Manila and Angeles, are less than definitive. Google Maps is not always your friend, and locations often have multiple names and addresses. It was not common, but till annoying, that I would input an address into the Grab app and get dropped off a block or more off target.This has been covered in the past, but not really since Covid. Physical addresses are few / far between. Locations are found more often by landmarks. You are looking for THIS BAR. Google maps might not have it. A given stretch of street in Makati, between two cross-streets, might be 200 meters. There might be 15-20 businesses or homes there. However only 2 of them might be addressed (ie, 2820 Guatemala St). You can send something to anyone there by sending it with their name of it, Care / Of that street address. It will eventually make its way to the recipient. "Robert Dela Vega, 2820 Guatemala St, Brgy Bel-Air, Makati City". Robert does not live at the door marked 2820, but his neighbors do. Hence, few places might have an address.
OTOH, you must know the landmarks to find it yourself. "Sir its near in Robinson's one block over by the 669 Brgy Hall". That's as good as it gets for the taxi driver (and maybe better for the taxi driver than giving him a guess at an address).
Its even difficult for the locals. Few years ago I went to see Robert about a 'thang'. A neighbor said to check at the Brgy hall as they thought Robert was in some kind of Brgy trouble. I walked a few blocks to the Brgy hall and inquired. "No sir he is not in any trouble. Wait sir. We will go to his home and bring him here to chat you". Great: he lives between Hunduras and Yanez streets, on the south side of del Pilar St. Off they went. 20 minutes later they returned without him, unable to find his place, just a few blocks away. I offered to go back over with them. They declined, it was after 5 pm, they told me to come back the next day. How on earth could they NOT find his place? I narrowed it down to one side of Del Pilar, between two cross streets. I walked back over there myself, thinking I'd lost my own mind. There was the house, as described. A local said to me: "They were looking for him. But one block over there. Tell them that Robert lives at the #7 water station. Then they will know it". And yes, right there, was a large water tower marked "Station #7".
Its hit / miss.
6. My inclination to ignore the drama-posts here about fuglies, overpricing, Koreans, and any other attempt to whine and comlplain that we no longer have the Philippines of the 1980's was a good call. I had no problem finding women I wanted to bang, at prices I was happy to pay and (mostly) had the experiences I was hoping for. Lesson: enjoy what is available to enjoy, and don't waste time thinking about what was available in the past.Spot on!
8. Currency exchange: NEVER buy PHP's at US airports. They will tell you all kinds of reasons why you will spend more when you get to the PH. These are lies. Buy a small amount when you land if you need it for a Grab or Taxi. Buy more from a location near your hotel, or from your hotel if offered. The best rates I found were in a booth in Mall of Asia.Ya. They charge an up-front fee ($10 USD) and give a crappy exchange rate. Just wait and buy it from any of the several money exchangers just after luggage pick-up at NAIA.
10. I found many more girls who (tried to) insist on condoms than I expected. Despite the comments posted by others, I found I had to ask up front and with specificity before I pulled the Bar Fine trigger.Condoms rarely used to be asked for. But bargirls can use it as a weapon (and they are aware of it). Once you've paid the barfine, if she insists on a condom, she knows a percentage of gents won't pull the trigger. You get mad and send her home (or she goes back to the bar) and gets her share of the barfine for doing: Nothing. Effing covid.
Any item that is a deal-breaker for a gent should be discussed up-front before pulling the barfine trigger. So says Westy (resident Board vibe-killer).
Transporter
04-07-23, 16:29
1 of the top 3 most scary moments.
Albert9989
04-07-23, 16:45
1 of the top 3 most scary moments.And what happened after?
1 of the top 3 most scary moments.Is it yours?
Transporter
04-07-23, 21:43
Probably, but it was taken care of.
WestCoast1
04-12-23, 08:27
Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw
https://etravel.gov.ph/
Transporter
04-12-23, 10:14
Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw
https://etravel.gov.ph/Both in bound and outbound I believe.
Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw
https://etravel.gov.ph/I thought you had to fill out a departure one too but when I showed them they said they only care about arrival and didn't even look at my departure.
Great!
Not sure if we covered this recently, but now DEPARTING passengers will need to fill out the e-travel system. Applies only to international flights. Must register etravel within 72 hours before departure. Thanks fellow board member for pointing this out. Its a small headache, but its another headache.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP3QdU8mdjQ&t=328s
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=jennifer+terri+travel+update
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tNAq3QQGhcw
https://etravel.gov.ph/No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.
No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.Need to do it for departures. Valid from April 15.
https://immigration.gov.ph/images/News/2023_Yr/03_Mar/2023Mar31_Press.pdf
WestCoast1
04-12-23, 13:18
I thought you had to fill out a departure one too but when I showed them they said they only care about arrival and didn't even look at my departure.
No need to do e travel for departure. I did travel from Manila to Jakarta and also Manila to back home in March. They do scan on arrival.For those who watched the vids, it starts April 15.
WestCoast1
04-12-23, 14:19
For those who watched the vids, it starts April 15.Thanks Muttley. See pic, from BI website.
Thanks Muttley. See pic, from BI website.I'm going on holiday in a couple of weeks. Received an SMS from PAL this afternoon confirming requirements.
"Cebu Pacific is proud to resume flights to and from Clark International Airport. Starting this April, fly easy directly from Clark to 15 destinations including Philippine destinations Boracay, Davao, Bacolod, Iloilo and Cebu. Every Juan can also fly to from Clark to Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, Bangkok and more! Additional flights to even more destinations are opening in May and beyond, so stay tuned and get ready to book! To really let every Juan fly, CEB is getting three (3) additional aircraft to be based in Clark, on top of the previously announced ten (10) Airbus NEO aircraft to be delivered this year! This furthers the airline's goal to truly fly every Juan to their destination of choice. With CEB's low fares and wide connectivity from Manila, Cebu, Davao, and now Clark, every Juan can fly and fulfill their travel bucket list with ease. Don't wait".
Looks like more flights are going to start out of Clarke in Angeles city come the end of May. See direct a direct flight to Bangkok, Singapore and several other cities.
WestCoast1
04-22-23, 01:28
"Cebu Pacific is proud to resume flights to and from Clark International Airport. Starting this April, fly easy directly from Clark to 15 destinations including Philippine destinations Boracay, Davao, Bacolod, Iloilo and Cebu. Every Juan can also fly to from Clark to Singapore, Hong Kong, Macau, Bangkok and more! Additional flights to even more destinations are opening in May and beyond, so stay tuned and get ready to book! To really let every Juan fly, CEB is getting three (3) additional aircraft to be based in Clark, on top of the previously announced ten (10) Airbus NEO aircraft to be delivered this year! This furthers the airline's goal to truly fly every Juan to their destination of choice. With CEB's low fares and wide connectivity from Manila, Cebu, Davao, and now Clark, every Juan can fly and fulfill their travel bucket list with ease. Don't wait".
Looks like more flights are going to start out of Clarke in Angeles city come the end of May. See direct a direct flight to Bangkok, Singapore and several other cities.BM great catch. Just found one direct from my province to CRK. So, backpack in hand, I could be nuts deep in AC gogo poon 2 hours after wheels up for $30. Yes!
I'm at airport, in typical fashion I completed eTravel requirements and at no point have I been asked to show a QR code.
I'the still do it if I were you, maybe immigration was having a bad day.
I'm at airport, in typical fashion I completed eTravel requirements and at no point have I been asked to show a QR code.
Id still do it if I were you, maybe immigration was having a bad day.Just an FYI. I arrived Manila three days ago on PAL. I was asked for my E Travel QR code in LAX before getting my boarding pass and again after arriving going through Manila airport Immigration.
Just an FYI. I arrived Manila three days ago on PAL. I was asked for my E Travel QR code in LAX before getting my boarding pass and again after arriving going through Manila airport Immigration.Coming into Manila it's completely standard. Please see posts below, you also now need to register when leaving Philippines. As I said in post however, I did not need to show QR code to exit.
WestCoast1
05-12-23, 11:26
As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.
As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.It is like this everywhere. The activity on the threads in all the Asian countries is a fraction of what it was in 2019.
WestCoast1
05-13-23, 00:06
As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down.
It is like this everywhere. The activity on the threads in all the Asian countries is a fraction of what it was in 2019.Well then, more trim available for you and me. Bring your vitamins, start your engines.
Albert9989
05-13-23, 07:27
As a thought, the number of visitors must be way down. The Makati thread on the Phils section is normally a vibrant, oft-utilized thread. Bar and resto FR's, and questions about bars and hotels. Its last post was 2 weeks ago (April 27). Everyone will have an opinion as to why.Flight costs maybe?
AussieGaigin
05-13-23, 09:45
Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.
Dashing Don
05-13-23, 18:58
Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.Yes, the airfares are sky high. NY JFK to MNL on Philippine Airlines is routinely $2500-3000 if booked less than 3 months in advance. Gone are the days of just deciding to go on a trip just a few weeks in advance.
I've booked two trips with Phil air both more than 4 months in advance and the price was $1200 approx which I consider reasonable.
WestCoast1
05-14-23, 04:47
Flight costs maybe?Regardless the reason, it seems to be happening elsewhere. These were posts from a few days ago in the BKK Reports / Thailand section:
The report I have seen, and attached link below, says that visitor numbers were down 20% week on week from one year ago for first week of May.
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/economy/40027431
You could be right.
Still let's use 1,000,000 in April. Still a Huge drop from Pre Coronavirus. Pre was approching 4,000,000 a month.
Thailand has lost its Mojo.
You were misinformed. International arrivals in April 2022 were just short of 300,000. In April 2023,2. 1 million. For a better indicator of tourism to Thailand I'd suggest places like Terminal 21 or Platinum Mall. They're jammed.
Locamotive
05-14-23, 22:39
Hardly surprising considering all the restrictions and red tape deterring travel.
And air fares are still high, with reduced services. Probably another 12 months before these stabilize.Yes they are, very high especially from East Coast of US. Prior to the COVID lockdown tickets were 1000 or $1200 then ID add a better legroom seat and bump it to 14 to $1500,Not cheap but not too bad. Couple months ago it went to $1800 in the back crap seat but I needed to go. Now I thought I might go back next month $2000 and above! This is ridiculous. This is not inflation not in 2 years this is the airlines trying to rape people to make up for lost revenue. Not that I blame them as my flights were packed, all of them. What happened to the population is hurting after COVID as allot did not work and times are going to be tight. Looking at airports you would never know this. Then you add 50 bucks a night in a decent condo or hotel 14 days (my minimum) 700 to $800 plus taxes and your looking at 3 grand just to get there and have a bed. This is insane. The reason we go is lots of choices and cost of the ladies. This is not cost effective, I imagine but never tried you can get US hookers for 500 bucks maybe not Filipina quality, but still easier and allot less trouble. Bar girls are texting me that customer traffic is down, wonder why??Cost girls as its insane now, at least from US 100000 p just to get there. WTF! Really, jesus no wonder we don't have customers. You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.
WestCoast1
05-15-23, 07:26
WTF! Really, jesus no wonder we don't have customers. You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.You've made the Pattaya case.
I hear you on the US domestic airfare issue. A few months ago while looking at prices, I found MNL / SFO for just under $800 OW (12 hours flying and 7,000 miles straight line, 11.4 cents per mile). A cheap flight from SFO to Chicago OW was $490 all in (4 hours flying and 1846 miles, 26.5 cents per mile). Domestic travel in the US is pricey. And in my opinion, on all such domestic aircraft, some of the crappiest and uncomfortable seats ever. OITNB, and these non-adjustable hard plastic seats are solidly in place on all airlines (you can pay to upgrade to seats with a better pitch -- more legroom -- but not to a seat that lays back or has more cushion).
https://www.airmilescalculator.com/ (Caution slow website).
AussieGaigin
05-15-23, 10:17
I've been considering a trip (from Sydney) to Japan later this year, and looking at prices I see PAL is offering fares as low as US $600 return with stop overs in MNL.
I'd consider spending a couple of days in Manilla to sample some of the delights I read about here.
What is the general consensus about the service on PAL?
Live in Philippines, just returned from two week break to Thailand where I spent one week in Bangkok and one week in Pattaya. From a gogo bar and massage shop perspective what is available in both Bangkok and Pattaya far exceeds number and quality of girls available in Burgos and Angeles. Majority of bars in both Bangkok and Pattaya offered some level of nudity in bars, with some providing fully naked girls on stage and walking around. Powers of negotiation in such bars was reduced. There are some great girls in Philippines bars, but you have to look a lot harder for them.
For dating regular girls Philippines wins out for me due to frequent availability of girls that speak English to higher degree. Would imagine conversations with majority of Thai women are a bit similar if you don't know language.
I love living in Philippines, but if money were no option, I think I'the probably choose Thailand for a holiday, or to live full time if retiring and watching world go by.
Expat American
05-15-23, 17:27
You gals just deal with the Koreans and other guys in Asia until this calms down as their tickets are 200 bucks, lucky bastards. I too would be there all the time for that price. Sorry for the rant, it just sucks the airlines are doing this.I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.
WestCoast1
05-16-23, 06:50
I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.Haha we should start our own "Pattaya" thread here. It is what you make of it.
I've been considering a trip (from Sydney) to Japan later this year, and looking at prices I see PAL is offering fares as low as US $600 return with stop overs in MNL.
I'd consider spending a couple of days in Manilla to sample some of the delights I read about here.
What is the general consensus about the service on PAL?I travelled economy on Pal and its ok. Not much different to Qantas.
Locamotive
05-16-23, 19:23
I'm in Singapore and can fly to AC anytime for $200 also. And even I am finding it hard to justify it when I can find Thai girls in their 20's giving 90 min 2 shots GFE for $100 in Singapore. Or even as little as $50 for a quick Geylang pump and dump. Over inflated hotel prices and 4000 P barfines with associated drama is feeling less and less attractive. Only added attraction is the omnipresent BBFS in the Philippines. ALthough my last Pattaya trip I got BBFS 75% of the time anyway.Agreed. If I was located anywhere in S. E. A. I would just stay put as many options are available. Out of boredom or maybe variety I may move around a bit occasionally but for the most part no. I do prefer Philippines for their English but other than that Asian girls are Asian girls. Anything beats the pussy hell hole of US, so any SEA destination would be great. Year or two I can retire and buy a one way ticket to a Asia location, after that it can go to $50000 a ticket and I won't give a shit.
Agreed. If I was located anywhere in S. E. A. I would just stay put as many options are available. Out of boredom or maybe variety I may move around a bit occasionally but for the most part no. I do prefer Philippines for their English but other than that Asian girls are Asian girls. Anything beats the pussy hell hole of US, so any SEA destination would be great. Year or two I can retire and buy a one way ticket to a Asia location, after that it can go to $50000 a ticket and I won't give a shit.Not sure if your job or skillset allows but securing an overseas posting resembles a major lotto win. Hard to beat being paid to be in paradise.
Don't forget the most important part of an expat posting: negotiating allowances due to the tremendous strain you will be put under 🤔.
HA is a Hardship Allowance due to the incredible difficulty of being locked in paradise.
CoLA is a Cost of Living Allowance to assist with $5 beers and $20 pussy.
Enjoy. G.
I love living in Philippines, but if money were no option, I think I'the probably choose Thailand for a holiday, or to live full time if retiring and watching world go by.I was thinking maybe take a Filipina to Thailand, just have to find an "adult" orphan from an orphanage with not many orphans. Don't want to support an entire orphanage. LOL Need a Filipina Orphan dating app.
Not sure if your job or skillset allows but securing an overseas posting resembles a major lotto win. Hard to beat being paid to be in paradise.
My first posting to Manila was in 1997 for 3 months and, 27 years later, I am still here AND still working too.
However, my number 1 rule is to stay way below the radar and to carefully think through any activities that might be border-line questionable. In today's litigious environment, one false step or error of judgement can destroy a career.
My first posting to Manila was in 1997 for 3 months and, 27 years later, I am still here AND still working too.
However, my number 1 rule is to stay way below the radar and to carefully think through any activities that might be border-line questionable. In today's litigious environment, one false step or error of judgement can destroy a career.There are exceptions but most expat contracts are now 2 or 3 years. The start up costs, especially relocating and schooling a whole family, mean that it's hard to justify shorter terms.
Yes, it's very common for those contracts to be rolled over several times. From the employers side a known performer is much less of a risk than a newbie. Surprisingly, many arrive and for what ever reason aren't suited and are back home at the first opportunity. Keeping your nose clean is definitely a required skill. Again, many arrive and go completely overboard and wonder why their contracts are not renewed.
Cheers. G.
WestCoast1
06-02-23, 09:21
Some general info. Tourist numbers in Phils and comparisons. From Statistica.com.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/789709/mexico-number-of-tourist-arrivals/
And such.
WestCoast1
07-10-23, 12:08
From the Wise remit website, a list of online remittance services and their exchange rates compared to Wise, for a sample $1000 USD send to Phils pesos. WorldRemit had the best, Wise had one of the worst. Exchange rates are constantly in flux.
wise.com/us/compare/
Dashing Don
07-23-23, 17:51
United Airlines will begin nonstop service from San Francisco to Manila, daily, from October 29.
Let's see how the collision between cutthroat American business competitiveness and the PAL monopoly plays out.
Radical Guy
07-24-23, 22:00
United Airlines will begin nonstop service from San Francisco to Manila, daily, from October 29.
Let's see how the collision between cutthroat American business competitiveness and the PAL monopoly plays out.That's awesome news. Hopefully, the competition will result in lower airfares.
RG.
That's awesome news. Hopefully, the competition will result in lower airfares.
RG.Can't wait to book it. Decent departure and arrivals times.
What's the escort scene in Boracay like?
Radical Guy
07-28-23, 15:44
What's the escort scene in Boracay like?Not really good. In my experience, the best option is to find someone you gel with elsewhere in the Philippines, and bring her with you to Boracay.
RG.
What's the escort scene in Boracay like?http://www.internationalsexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?1012-Other-Areas&p=2818878&highlight=Boracay#post2818878.
Check out this recent post above. I'm going in late October and don't want to drag a girl along as it will be several days. Hopefully will find short time GF! Or three. Or four.
ShinyCrazy
07-29-23, 18:02
Hey guys!
Making very early plans for the Philippines this winter. Last time I visited Makati for mongering and Palawan for tourism. Looking for another spot with worthwhile tourism that would also offer access to some nightly young natural GFE. This would supplement my time in Manila, which will be primarily focused on mongering. Don't like scuba or surfing, but snorkeling, sailing, hiking, etc. Would be great. After scouring ISG, I am thinking of mixing time at Makati with Panglao / Bohol. Should I try to include Cebu or Angeles or Subic or Boracay instead? Or is Panglao a decent choice?
Here's what I've read on the forum: Makati has the best looking girls, the only advantage of Angeles is price, Cebu is not easy like Makati, Cebu is a fairly ugly city, Subic has a poop river dumping into the ocean, Alona Beach on Panglao had some decent bars with bar girls and lots of tourism options, but most of the ISG recommended places for girls (Spiked coconut, Animes bar, and Pinerella bar) have closed since COVID, so you may be stuck looking online for that part of the trip.
I like variety, so I don't plan to bring Makati sand to Alona beach.
Suggestions for a 2 week trip? I just need a ballpark sense of whether Panglao is the right choice to supplement Makati or if I should look elsewhere. Before you tell me to RTFF, read some of my extensive and detailed reports from around the world.
Hey guys!
Making very early plans for the Philippines this winter. Last time I visited Makati for mongering and Palawan for tourism. Looking for another spot with worthwhile tourism that would also offer access to some nightly young natural GFE. This would supplement my time in Manila, which will be primarily focused on mongering. Don't like scuba or surfing, but snorkeling, sailing, hiking, etc. Would be great. After scouring ISG, I am thinking of mixing time at Makati with Panglao / Bohol. Should I try to include Cebu or Angeles or Subic or Boracay instead? Or is Panglao a decent choice?Stay in Davao with day / overnight trips to Samal (beaches, relax, snorkel), water falls, national parks?
Same for Coron. It's more diver focussed but some sites can be snorkeled and there are many land based day tours. Not as many girls on tap though.
Enjoy. G.
ShinyCrazy
07-31-23, 02:10
Stay in Davao with day / overnight trips to Samal (beaches, relax, snorkel), water falls, national parks?
Same for Coron. It's more diver focussed but some sites can be snorkeled and there are many land based day tours. Not as many girls on tap though.
Enjoy. G.Thanks for the ideas! Call me a pussy, but given the history of Islamic extremism and unrest in Mindanao, I have always kept that off of my list. Coron is a live possibility. I loved Palawan, but mongering was pretty limited. I'll do some more reading!
Thanks for the ideas! Call me a pussy, but given the history of Islamic extremism and unrest in Mindanao, I have always kept that off of my list. Coron is a live possibility. I loved Palawan, but mongering was pretty limited. I'll do some more reading!Ok, you're a pussy. 😜.
All jokes a side, Davao is perfectly safe. Not sure if you know but, before shooting drug dealers as President, Duerte was mayor of Davao City and he had the same attitude then. Upsetting regular citizens in Davao is a sure way for your relatives to receive a message that you committed suicide while in police lockup.
I felt perfectly safe walking home through the back streets at 3 am. Never had any issues at all.
Enjoy. G.
So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?
Which province other than Manila has the best mongering in the Philippines?
Which province other than Manila has the best mongering in the Philippines?Depends on what you prefer. Bar girls then Angeles. Dating site girls Cebu.
WestCoast1
08-01-23, 03:48
So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?Yes, exactly.
Yes, exactly.Well I bareback everywhere in the world. I just come back from Colombia, and I didn't use any condoms. Girls told me in Colombia most of the men don't use condoms. And girls say yes all the time if you pay more.
WestCoast1
08-01-23, 16:06
Well I bareback everywhere in the world. I just come back from Colombia, and I didn't use any condoms. Girls told me in Colombia most of the men don't use condoms. And girls say yes all the time if you pay more.
Yes, exactly.I was being a bit snarky. I meant that its mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. Its best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.
Radical Guy
08-01-23, 17:03
I was being a bit snarky. I meant that it’s mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. It’s best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.That's my strategy. I let them know that I'm allergic to latex, and have sometimes paid for my GF to get a depo shot ahead of time to prevent pregnancy.
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
RG.
I was being a bit snarky. I meant that its mostly difficult to find filipina that insist on a condom. Most (but not all) prefer au natural. Its best to determine her preference (or express yours) BEFORE she reaches your hotel.
That's my strategy. I let them know that I'm allergic to latex, and have sometimes paid for my GF to get a depo shot ahead of time to prevent pregnancy.
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
RG.Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
08-02-23, 00:58
Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? A decade. A girl from Brown Sugar, whom I had taken at 2:30 am (they closed at 3 am). In the bar she'd agreed to no condom, then as the deed was about to begin in the room she insisted on a condom. "Mama says we must protect ourselves". When I said no thanks, she hopped off the bed, dressed quietly, and left. It was too late to go back to the bar and complain.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.Same. A year prior to covid, a provincial girl that I'd been with for 5-ish years, who bussed into town, was with me in a convenience store. In line to pay, she pointed to a box of Durex and whispered: "We should?" I nodded NO, and that was the end of that. She was in town with me for 4 nights. She was so upset about not using a condom that the little hornier-than-me devil-ette blistered and drained my schwanztooga down to a whimper with her need for sex every 2-3-4 hours. She's pictured in the PG several times.
Expat American
08-02-23, 05:40
Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.I was negotiating with a couple of bar girls for an off the books threesome. After we agreed on the price, they said condom needed. So the deal fell through. Sometimes in a threesome deal each girl has to show the other that she uses condoms. Having said that, I have had numerous threesomes where I pull out of one pussy into another pussy or mouth with no restrictions also.
FuriousGeorge
08-02-23, 10:23
Yeah, this is true. When there's more than one girl they often feel shamed by the other girl if they don't use a condom. I detailed this experience in a long ago report. As for solo girls. One from Atlantis demanded, and I acquiesced. Second time it happened it was from Atlantis also, and this happened back at my room. So I sent her on her way I and went to HiSo and got what I wanted. 3rd time. Was about to take a girl from Atlantis and she set the condom ground rules before the barfine and I said peace out. That being said, my favorite girl ever (non civilian) was from Atlantis, and bare, so, moral of the story. Life is complicated. I don't negotiate beforehand because when you are in PI your chances are like 98%.
I was negotiating with a couple of bar girls for an off the books threesome. After we agreed on the price, they said condom needed. So the deal fell through. Sometimes in a threesome deal each girl has to show the other that she uses condoms. Having said that, I have had numerous threesomes where I pull out of one pussy into another pussy or mouth with no restrictions also.
Do those of you that usually bareback, take any meds or do anything else as a precaution to reduce the chance of catching something?
Or do you take your chances and deal with anything that arises afterwards?
Radical Guy
08-02-23, 14:32
Do those of you that usually bareback, take any meds or do anything else as a precaution to reduce the chance of catching something?
Or do you take your chances and deal with anything that arises afterwards?I never go to bargirls or any clearly P4 P service providers. I like to select my babe a few weeks ahead of time, first on Tinder then followed by chat and video cam sessions, during which I broach the whole condom issue. On several occasions, once I got to know a lady, I arranged for her to get a depo shot a couple of weeks before my arrival.
I know, all of this sounds like a lot of trouble, but for me it's paid off in spades. I've never had any problems, and haven't used a damn condom in over 20 years.
RG.
Radical Guy
08-02-23, 14:39
Serious question: when was the last time you had a girl stand her ground on being covered? I can only remember twice in decades and both were part of wider disastrous sessions where they wanted to do an early runner. Certainly not just insisting on disease or pregnancy prevention.
I've had several who suggested that covered was required, only to mysteriously forget once naked back in the room. I will admit that I may be an outlier for not insisting in CIP and if she asks for noCIP, it's a promise I keep.
I don't even ask anymore and just take bare as assumed.
I'd agree with RG that unshaven would be less common than safety conscious esp amongst younger foreigner friendly girls.
Enjoy. G.I haven't used a condom in over 20 years. I invest the time and effort usually a month or several weeks ahead of time before my trip to settle one a non-pro I want to have a GFE with. None have ever demanded a condom. And frequently, if they say online that they shave, they agree to stop shaving so that they have a decent Bush by the time I arrive.
RG.
Member #4794
08-02-23, 16:28
I also like to screen girls ahead of time so I can find the ones with natural, unshaven, hairy pussies. Unlike a lot of guys here, I find it a total turn-off when a girl shaves her pussy.
A recent shave is ok but I hate a spiky pussy. But full on au naturale Bush can be a ***** much some trimming is welcome. Girl with hair from the booty hole to the hips can be an acquired taste. Doesn't sound as crazy as it is until you go down there for a close up. I usually run into this the deeper I make it into the province, they hide a full on a clown wig in their panty's. "I'm shy I didn't shave" I say "OK" and POOOF! One reason I do this is because if you eat them out after they wash you get a giant mouth full of soap, they very rarely get all the soap out of the jungle.
Radical Guy
08-04-23, 04:00
A recent shave is ok but I hate a spiky pussy. But full on au naturale Bush can be a ***** much some trimming is welcome. Girl with hair from the booty hole to the hips can be an acquired taste. Doesn't sound as crazy as it is until you go down there for a close up. I usually run into this the deeper I make it into the province, they hide a full on a clown wig in their panty's. "I'm shy I didn't shave" I say "OK" and POOOF! One reason I do this is because if you eat them out after they wash you get a giant mouth full of soap, they very rarely get all the soap out of the jungle.Well, I came of age in the 1970's, back when pussy shaving was completely unheard of. I loved the thick bushes on the hippie chicks I grew up with, so I acquired that particular taste decades ago. LOL.
I have to say Air Asia female flight attendants are mighty fine looking especially in the red uniforms and heels. Most have beautifully long wavy hair, right amount of make up, posture and the walk. Proportionate weight to height.
I am wondering what is their pay scale?
WestCoast1
08-04-23, 07:52
I have to say Air Asia female flight attendants are mighty fine looking especially in the red uniforms and heels. Most have beautifully long wavy hair, right amount of make up, posture and the walk. Proportionate weight to height.
I am wondering what is their pay scale?+p2000 every time she departs my place, freshly vaccinated with a smile on her face, on her way back to the airport for this afternoon's flight.
BTW, do we have a new domestic airline?
https://sunlightair.ph/
I was looking for some telegram groups to scout for an upcoming trip to AC. I saw a post that said it is better to go to IG and search for the best hash tags. But I have no idea what hashtag to look for. #Angelescity and #balibago don't get me anything good and I'm not finding anything under #angelescity combined with #walker. What should I be searching for?
I was looking for some telegram groups to scout for an upcoming trip to AC. I saw a post that said it is better to go to IG and search for the best hash tags. But I have no idea what hashtag to look for. #Angelescity and #balibago don't get me anything good and I'm not finding anything under #angelescity combined with #walker. What should I be searching for?No good looking girl wants to openly advertise that she's a hooker on #walkingstreet. Better to search the highend clubs and hotels to check who has pics and / or followed. Then it's the friends of friends worm hole.
It takes time, is definitely not point and shoot and expect the usual IG princess dramas.
Enjoy. G.
For the dude looking for a code word, #walkers is often used. I have looked it up myself but as the Philippines is awash with walkers, no need to sweat it. Here is an academic paper of sorts on it https://serialsjournals.com/abstract/49658_1385-1404.pdf.
I see the Philippines and China have both removed the need for non vaxxed to get tested. This is interesting as the doom and gloom lot say Covid is back big time.
I am planning an early 2024 trip (I have other more upmarket trips planned for 2023) but I would prefer no surprises with this Covid crap, stuck in the Philippines with walkers impaling themselves on me for months on end until I am allowed flee.
WestCoast1
09-03-23, 12:00
SNIP but I would prefer no surprises with this Covid crap, stuck in the Philippines with walkers impaling themselves on me for months on end until I am allowed flee.If its a man's time to shuffle off this mortal coil, that ain't a bad way to go.
WestCoast1
09-03-23, 12:05
I posted this in the Indonesia forum. Millions of dollars to get a 10-year visa in Indo. Compare to $10,000 USD (+ $360 yearly) to get a lifetime retirement visa in Phils. I understand there is similar to Phils for Thailand. And Cambodia possibly has a better one, that can simply be purchased at inbound Immigration when landing ($300 USD good for one year, extendable indefinitely)? Anyway:
From today's news:
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/indonesia-offers-golden-visa-entice-foreign-investors-2023-09-03/
Jakarta (Reuters) - Indonesia is introducing a golden visa scheme to attract foreign individual and corporate investors in an attempt to boost its national economy, a statement from the ministry of law and human rights distributed on Sunday said.
"The golden visa is granting a residence permit for an extended period of five to 10 years," director general of immigration, Silmy Karim said in the statement.
The five-year visa requires individual investors to set up a company worth $2. 5 million, while for the 10 years visa, a $5 million investment is required.
SNIP..
Meanwhile, corporate investors are required to invest $25 million to get five-year visas for directors and commissioners. They need to invest double, or $50 million, to gain a 10 year visa.
Different provisions apply to individual foreign investors who do not want to establish a company in the Southeast Asian country. The requirements range from $350,000 to $700,000 in funds that can be used to purchase the Indonesian government bonds.
Pocket change.
I googled the above and clicked through on a few links, most of which were Manila clinics using the same info (plagiarism). Though I know the women in clubs get tested (let's leave quality control issues aside), the STI rats should be off the charts, given condom use etc is minimal. I was also amazed the Phils was not hit harder by HIV / Aids. I have watched documentaries on Angeles women who contracted it.
The Koreans have a low level of STI disease, unlike Westerners. However, the Phils is an enigma, banging away like bunny rabbits and few give a flying FK about diseases.
BbqMushrooms
09-05-23, 19:35
So is Philippines still the bareback capital of the world? I'm thinking of planning a trip and condoms really don't do it for me.
Where is the best place to go multi barebacking?What is multi barebacking?? What advanced form of mongering is this.
WestCoast1
09-05-23, 22:39
However, the Phils is an enigma, banging away like bunny rabbits and few give a flying FK about diseases.That's the rumor. Them pina been a-doin' thangs they hadn't orta been a-doin'.
WestCoast1
09-06-23, 01:10
What is multi barebacking?? What advanced form of mongering is this.A three-some maybe?
A three-some maybe?I was thinking of girls lined up side by side, on all fours, and having to make your way down the line, before the fun starts again at the beginning of the line. .
Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.
Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.I haven't seen your previous post but why would you buy "her" a laptop? If she is into making money online (how? She would know where and how to buy crap like that and at the appropriate price. If she is a hooker type, she would most likely sell the laptop There were previous discussions about lazada etc with people professsing scepticism.
She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.
I haven't seen your previous post but why would you buy "her" a laptop?
Instead of sending money, I'd like to buy her a laptop. That way, she can earn and not just spend. Any suggestions for a reliable online retailer? I'm thinking Amazon. Cheers, Steve.You can use Amazon with free shipping. Funny is if you choose the quicker delivery which will cost you but the import deposit fee drops quite a bit. It works out cheaper and quicker delivery for you. Just an FYI to you.
I won't ask you why would you do this as it is none of my business nor any of my concern what anyone does here.
Good luck.
She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.I really like Lazada, but I wouldn't use it for a laptop purchase. Scams run there, like anywhere else, and that is a significant purchase. If you do choose it, narrow your search to LazMall. It is usually a bit more expensive, but also more reputable retailers.
I won't ask you why would you do this as it is none of my business nor any of my concern what anyone does here.
Good luck.
She's not a hooker-type, more like friends with benefits. I can get her a job as a Virtual Assistant. A PC / laptop is a prerequisite. She will want to pay me back in kind, a proverbial win-win situation.
Thanks for Lazad tip.DG is far more polite than me so I'll point out the pitfalls of a "my girl is different" mentality. Many, many guys have thought the same over the years. Odds are very high that said laptop will be used for other income streams far more lucrative than a Virtual Assistant. If she's smart enough to find you, then she's smart enough to have other benefactors at the same time.
However, if you think you are being fairly compensated, then more power to you.
Have you considered going direct to the laptop manufacturers? Many have good online stores and shipping options. Dell jumps to mind.
Good luck. G.
Dell is a great shout!
The way I see it is that sending cash is definitely a lost cause. As the old proverb says, if you give a (wo) man a fish you feed her for one day. Teach her to fish. You get the picture.
DG is far more polite than me so I'll point out the pitfalls of a "my girl is different" mentality. Many, many guys have thought the same over the years. Odds are very high that said laptop will be used for other income streams far more lucrative than a Virtual Assistant. If she's smart enough to find you, then she's smart enough to have other benefactors at the same time.
However, if you think you are being fairly compensated, then more power to you.
Have you considered going direct to the laptop manufacturers? Many have good online stores and shipping options. Dell jumps to mind.
Good luck. G.
Dashing Don
09-11-23, 13:24
A week into my two week trip to the phils I had to go back early to the USA so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati.
They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
Expedia bailed me out with a last minute one way ticket for $814.
As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?
WestCoast1
09-11-23, 19:06
so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati. They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?Yes, Phils. That is standard practice at all airlines, and has been for a decade: You pay the fee to make any change ($100 for some airlines and domestic flights, several hundred $ for other airlines and Int'l flights). You also pay the difference in the new flight cost. As you need to fly NOW, you will probably pay Biz class prices ($1500-ish) for an economy seat ($800-ish). CP and PAL went to that when the US airlines did way back when. Its a sure-fire way to deter you from making any changes (other than a Bereavement flight). I changed my KAL flight just before Covid, $600 in damage. See pics of PAL's website with prices of an economy ticket MNL-LAX for tomorrow (Sept 14), one way. And corresponding costs (read: penalties) for making changes. Want to change your flight, you pay. Cancel your flight, you pay. Don't show for your flight, you pay. Do check that 1-way Economy Flex price for the 10 pm flight ($2156; at these prices, bring the whole family).
As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.Very valid point. The fast-fooding effect continues. I could be wrong, but the following appears to have occurred. The economy continues to rise, while the food desires of the people remain the same: They still think a trip to Jollibee for ChickenJoy is THE BOMB. More people crowd into fast food joints. You must push further into the province to find a slate of thin ladies. Go west (well, south) young man.
Thailand. Go to Thailand.
A week into my two week trip to the phils I had to go back early to the USA so I went to the PAL office on Ayala ave in Makati.
They wanted $250 to change the ticket and about $1500 because of a 'fare difference!' I've never encountered anything like this in my life.
Expedia bailed me out with a last minute one way ticket for $814.
As a long time visitor I really have to re evaluate the phils. The girls are much heavier than even 5 years ago is my impression. And if there isn't cheap flights anymore what's the point.
If it was an Air France office in central Paris and I was trying to change my flight to NY at the last minute I could understand getting clipped but the friggin Philippines?There are all kinds of different charges now. If I want to fly to Phils with a ME airline, there are all kinds of options, some of which but not all, add on, at a cost, the option of changing return flight. All airlines now have more aggressive, "competitive pricing structures. Not nice but it is not a nice industry. The Makati office would also need their cut.
Expedia were nice to you and / or you were lucky. I tend to book only with airlines as I find the scraper sites very iffy. Good value but iffy. Lastminute.com, . For example, often offer cheap as chips prices the actual airline cannot meet and their trustpilot etc reviews are in the toilet.
Girls are much heavier everywhere, bar those into doing tiktok fitness videos. It is not just jolibee but an entire culture that is whale friendly. Sometimes we get funny videos of fat South Sea type girls beating up whippets but it is not funny being with a bucket of lard, anywhere.
I changed a ticket at CdeG Paris years ago in what was really a life defining change for me. It was not THAT expensive at the time but it was not a total bargain but Air France needed their $$ and, as already said, the game has changed.
"As a long term visitor", it would be nice for you to expound further on the value of flying to the Phils in these changing times. There are many minuses for kids flying half way round the world to a candy store but, larded up and all as it is, there ain't nothing better or nearer around.
As regards the old times,. I am now reading a charming book about travelling through SE Asia in 1950. A lost paradise that was vanishing even then.
TitanJones
09-18-23, 08:05
Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.
I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say £650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like lastminute.com I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?
I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say 650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like lastminute.com I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?I don know what to tell you to do not anyone else can. I can tell you that I have used skyscannner and got tickets have price for domestic Philippine flights to my astonishment.
Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.I have experienced this. Just ignored it. Then again I have limited social circle to risk. Nothing happened. I'm sure if you pay you will pay forever.
I am eyeing up scraper sites like kayak, skyscanner etc and certain agents are offering return flights to Manila for next to nothing. Example: travelup say 650 return, mostly on Cathay. But Cathay are charging more than twice that for the same dates. I get there are deals out there and some sites seem mostly scams. There are many, like lastminute.com I would not go near. Generally, I prefer just to use the actual airline's site. Selling at less than half price cannot be fully kosher. What is the game here and how should horny hopeless Harrys like me proceed?I use Kayak quite often to save a few bucks. The only issue I run into is that some of the deals are not available when I try to buy them. Kayak is mostly "normal" flights. You can find some really cheap flights using cheapo air and similar sites, but they may be really long, multiple legs with overnight layovers, etc. It really depends what your tolerance is. Just stay away from one's that look too cheap or try to connect you with travel agents.
Can a mod please contact me so I can spread awareness on this post or have a sticky? I met a girl on tinder and she added me on IG and WhatsApp. She then requested to facetime me and asked me to show her my penis. She seemed keen as we have been talking for a few days and she showed interest on meeting up. 19 year old girl. She looked pretty hot and normal on her IG. So I facetime her and she asks me to pull out my penis which I obliged, then after a few seconds she disconnects. Next I get a message on IG which shows that she was recording the video and she said she will send the video to everyone in my contacts list unless I give her money. I block her account and report her to Instagram and WhatsApp.Unfortunately, this is common. Best thing you can do is to block and do damage control. She may share it or she may not. Maybe put out that you have been hacked. Take this as a lesson. Never do this on live video call. Better to send video that isn't identifiable. No face, nothing identifiable about where you are, especially if you're living with a partner. I hope it all works out for you.
Next I get a message on IG which shows that she I do not know how common this is but I do know a. A Pinay lady invented this scam which is real. 2. People have suicided after they were exposed so they do follow through. 3. Romanians were arrested for bribing a young guy into suicide, 4. NEVER show your dick. Anyone asking for that is either a gay (not a ladyboy) or a scammer. Women are not into looking at dicks. Just join pinalove and see them all saying no dick pics. 5. You may or may not get bribed, depending on whether your face pic is there or not. Say you were drunk / stoned / hypnotised / on medication but be prepared. 6. And never ever repeat.
I checked the travel up company again. Guy got a great write up in the Sunday Times but it gets horrid reviews on trust pilot etc, as companies often do. There are a few others offering roughly similar prices but I have my doubts. I think I may be better paying £100 or so extra and avoiding this shit. I have flown Australia-Europe back in the day when you could get drunk on board and prices varied greatly from one passenger to another but I think there is no way they or those like them could so hammer other outlets. There was a London based crew offering similarly priced gigs but I cannot find them now. Cebu Air is offering 1 PHP flights. I wish they would offer 1 PHP hookers.
https://www.bluelotusvacations.uk/
These are the guys I was looking for. They are all over social media. Always £100 or more cheaper than the cheapest (like travel up). Check them on trust pilot and they have5* but read deeper they write the reviews themselves. I guess the scrapers are 98% ok but if you are one of the 2% or if you hit a dodgy company, not good.
Unfortunately, this is common. Best thing you can do is to block and do damage control. She may share it or she may not. Maybe put out that you have been hacked. Take this as a lesson. Never do this on live video call. Better to send video that isn't identifiable. No face, nothing identifiable about where you are, especially if you're living with a partner. I hope it all works out for you.I'd agree. Also, Facebook and similar are notorious for friends of friends recommendations. Does anyone want a 19 yo hooker recommended to their workmates, friends or family? The best scenario is to run a parallel account with limited contacts. Even then I would be extremely cautious. Certainly no dick pics or conversations with potentially young girls.
This is another argument for not even making contact until the guy is boots in the ground, in country. Asking to meet face to face and in person is a good way to weed out online scammers.
Good luck to the OP.
G.
I'd agree. Also, Facebook and similar are notorious for friends of friends recommendations. G.There is a "new" one there where a Chinese chick (yeah right) befriends you as you are interesting (if she wants to know what it is like to talk to a guy who had his dick in 10000+ hookers). "She" plays the long game and get you into crypto and then hits you hard. I spoke to a digital nomad who said those scams are only the shallow end of the pool and there are some real experts floating about. The 101 is if a chick wants to see dick, run.
I checked the travel up company again. Guy got a great write up in the Sunday Times but it gets horrid reviews on trust pilot etc, as companies often do. There are a few others offering roughly similar prices but I have my doubts. I think I may be better paying 100 or so extra and avoiding this shit. I have flown Australia-Europe back in the day when you could get drunk on board and prices varied greatly from one passenger to another but I think there is no way they or those like them could so hammer other outlets. There was a London based crew offering similarly priced gigs but I cannot find them now. Cebu Air is offering 1 PHP flights. I wish they would offer 1 PHP hookers.I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.
Prices of flights booked direct with the airlines also vary wildly with dirt cheap flights occasionally available. Google Flights is a good option here. Punch in the intended departure and arrival airport and I can search flight and prices several months ahead. It's not unusual to see prices vary by 300% at different times of the year. Obviously, stay away from major holidays and school breaks.
Enjoy. G.
I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.....Google Flights is a good option here....Enjoy. G.Air China are offering good prices form London and Rome. Turkish Airways good too. I have used both before. Air China cabin crew look like they don't take any crap.
I guess the aggregators bump people a lot, sell a few seats at the advertised price and mess others about. Too messy for me too.
There is a "new" one there where a Chinese chick (yeah right) befriends you as you are interesting (if she wants to know what it is like to talk to a guy who had his dick in 10000+ hookers). "She" plays the long game and get you into crypto and then hits you hard. I spoke to a digital nomad who said those scams are only the shallow end of the pool and there are some real experts floating about. The 101 is if a chick wants to see dick, run.This is called the "pig slaughter" scam in China. It has been around for awhile in China and is now going world wide. These are very sophisticated operations. As you said, they play the long game. A lot is known about you before first contact is even made. These people are well trained and very good at what they do. I have been contacted through Wechat, but sinse Chinese friends warned me first I just ignore any contacts from people I don't know. Not surprising that they would be branching out to other platforms.
I avoid the aggregators and too good to be true, bargain prices flights. The dramas should flights be rerouted, delayed or cancelled just isn't worth it. Especially as all of these are now more common than before.
Prices of flights booked direct with the airlines also vary wildly with dirt cheap flights occasionally available. Google Flights is a good option here. Punch in the intended departure and arrival airport and I can search flight and prices several months ahead. It's not unusual to see prices vary by 300% at different times of the year. Obviously, stay away from major holidays and school breaks.
Enjoy. G.I've used aggregators regularly without a drama. The problems arrive if there is a missed connection or cancellation. The airlines treat it as booked by and agent and many won't deal with you directly. Buy insurance with the money saved.
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?
Albert9989
09-26-23, 08:22
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?All red flags here, looks like a LD, yes.
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove Most ladyboys will say right up what they are. They have plenty of customers and don't need your drama. The third photo is a pose which ladyboys have to do to look feminine. Many ladyboys look more feminine than ladies as they spend a LOT of money to get the look.
That and their medication makes them prone to scamming and violent crime. Sites like livejasmin allow them make serious bucks without that recourse.
It matters not whether it is a lady or a ladyboy. Offering you nudes is a red flag. Unless you want to marry her and have babies, yours or adopted, with her, move on.
There are all kinds of "spot the ladyboy" sites. They are as stupid as those kiddy ones of spotting the hidden tiger in the grass. If you really must know, ask a female hooker. They can spot them a miles off and many of them have admired ladyboys to me and told me how well they look and how hard it can be to spot them. But most on pinalove do not need your drama,.
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?I'm guessing LB based on the tits are too perfect but I hope I'm wrong!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SxNfEhP-EGk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4MZuvC3tYnI
This 80 year old Brit is not in good nick. Lots of lessons here. 80 years old, arrivng in London with nothing. There was a film maybe 40 years ago, about taffy women keeping the fare home. The Pinays were good to him but waht a mess.
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
What do you think?I didn't even look at the pictures, and I say yes. It's a dude just based on the hints you gave. If you want to be sure, just ask if he'll suck you. 😂.
LoveItHere
10-24-23, 03:35
Fellow mongers, I need your expert help in lady boy detection. I've chatting this girl I found on Pinalove and she looks pretty great, to me at least. But a couple of red flags.
- she has a bit of a deep voice.
- shares nude fotos of herself without even me asking.
- asked for "hot" photos of me, which I did not give.
Usually when something is too good to be true, it is indeed a ladyboy. I've videocalled with her very briefly for about 30 seconds where I do believe she is the person in the photos. She didn't look quite as good as in her photos, but most girls don't these days with all the filters going around. I've attached some photos. What do you think?Your gut feeling is telling you something and you are not listening. This is very simple. If you ever have to question what it is then run away.
The test I like is for the person to not yell but to say something in a loud voice as if they are talking to you and you are across the room or across the street. At that decibel level they can not suppress their man voice from coming out. Most guys can sound like a little kid or girl at a low decibel level.
Errol Flynn
10-27-23, 05:02
I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
International: For my first trip to the PI last spring I chose Philippine Airlines (PAL), mostly because they have a direct flight from LAX, it was $100-$200 more than other options but I thought it worth it.
My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. You really needed to be there three hours in advance and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.
On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Those are both highly rated Taiwan based airlines. But meant a signoficant layover in Taiwan on both trips. Not sure it was the right choice, but I decided to roll the dice with PAL again. FWIW the LAX-MNL PAL flight arrives at 5:40 am (actually 6:30 last time) so there is an early check in issue. Central Park AC has some secret provisions for that I may try to share later.
Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?
Domestic:
So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). On the first Cancellation they canned my GF's flight to Butuan and moved it to the next day. Okay if that's rare. But then it happened to me! I had booked a flight for both of us to fly to Boracay on November 17th at 12:55 pm (a gentlemanly hour). They automatically switched me to 8 am on November 19th. But I prepaid for a Boracay hotel starting the 17th! That ain't going to fly. So I looked at their website and they have seats available on a 2:10 Nov 17 flight nonstop to Boracay (MPH). It's just that they're priced higher than what I paid a month ago. On their website they didn't even give me an option of switching to that flight for a fee! They just offered for me to confirm the new flight they had chosen or "request a refund". Obviously they want me to rebook at the new fare, but that's not why I booked early. There is an early morning flight on the 17th from Clark on Air Asia at a good price, or I can travel to MNL and ly on PAL mid afternoon at a fair price. I have written to Cebu asking them to move me to the 2:10 pm flight and will update this if I here back.
Air Asia: I have never booked on this airline, but the internet says it's a Malaysia based low budget airline with some Filipino investors and it soun DS like it's better than Cebu Pacific or Cebu Go. Any information appreciated.
PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.
I live in Honolulu. The flights direct on PAL to Manila are 1800-2000 round trip. I have been flying JAL, ANA, or Korean Air instead. All have a layover, but it is usually no more than two hours and then on to Manila. And the service on them is far and above any US airline.
I have only flown on Cebu Pacific domestically in Philippines. I haven't had any trouble with them personally. CebGo flights tend to be cheaper turboprop planes. I've booked on them a few times but had them combined with a Cebu Pacific jet instead. No issue. I had a flight delayed due to weather a couple of months ago due to weather in Manila and they gave me two domestic flight vouchers, including my baggage. I have nothing bad to say about them personally. And their flight attendants are definitely on the upper end of lookers, IMO.
WestCoast1
10-27-23, 07:06
My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.Rather a spot-on description. Fly KAL, Asiana, or ANA if you want solid service. PAL's checkin is much faster than a deccade a year ago, but is till one of the slowest in the biz.
You really needed to be there three hours in advance Same for all airlines at the Bradley terminal. Flights going across the Pacific pond are usually 14+ hours, 300+ passengers, with 45 minute boarding times. Given the 20-60 minutes it might take you to get from the checkin counter thru the security checkpoints at LAX, and the 1-hour it takes to check in 300+ passengers, you'd be in the gutsy category to show up 2 hours before flight (given you must be at the gate 45 minutes before the flight).
On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?You have hit the issues. Flying west across the Pacific is more expensive and less time-consuming. In general, plan about $800 USD each way. Only PAL offers a direct (nonstop) flight. Others offer layovers of 2+ hours in Taiwan, HK, Japan, Seoul. Plan on about $1400-$1500 USD Round-Trip for those 1-stops, and about $1700 for PAL's direct flights.
So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). See below. Its bait / switch.
PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?I find PAL cancels (and offers) fewer flights. CP seems to float more flights daily in / out of this or that province than PAL, but CP then cancels some of them after you book. They don't contact you with the cancel and ask that you contact them to rebook the flight of your choice*; the CP computer just re-books you on a similar flight a day or so later (rather rude). Also PAL flights are typically p1-2 k more per leg.
* If you want to buy a ticket directly from CP, you must choose: #1) Go to a CP ticketing office. If you press the CP ticketing agent (dressed in a yellow CP shirt), he will confess that its not really a CP ticketing office. Its an intermediate travel agency, dealing only with CP flights. The agent works for the travel agent, not CP. If something goes wrong, or you want to change your flight, you must go back to the same ticketing office to make any changes (you might not be able to go to a different CP ticketing office). There is no longer a phone number to call. Or #2) You can book on the CP website directly. However if something changes or goes wrong, you can't go to said ticketing office (#1) for help. Said agent will tell you to make any changes online. You must go back the CP website and 'Manage' your booking. Re-booking might cost you a fee (depending on how you originally purchased) and they will hit you with an increase for the price difference of the new flight (you must agree to that and pay up front before they allow you to proceed). If you want to speak to a real CP agent: GOOD LUCK. On occasion I have reached one on the website (there is a virtual chat-bot, and if you persist for 30+ minutes, they might transfer you to a live chat agent; or maybe not). CP and PAL have nearly completely eliminated live phone (and email) support. If you ask the agent at a CP ticketing office how you can get live help for a problem you are having from a CP website purchase, he will tell you to fly to NAIA and speak to someone at CP there. No kidding. CP ticketing agents (the yellow shirts who don't really work for CP) have also shared that the CP website is run by a third-party company, and that CP really has little to do with that also. Its amazing how consumer-unfriendly and sneaky they are.
Another CP and PAL possible scam, coming to the Gen Info thread, soon. Smile!
I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.I've only ever had one CP Domestic flight cancelled and they couldn't have been better about it. It was going to be the last flight of the day so they rebooked to the first flight the next morning, gave girlie and I a half decent hotel near the airport for the night, a couple of meal vouchers and redeemable flight vouchers. I think it was $100 each (remember we still kept a flight). Yes, they are a budget airline but they will give you what ever you are prepared to pay for. Lots of baggage allowance if you need it. They also go to many smaller airports. Tickets are cheap if booked normally and can be ridiculously cheap if booked well ahead. On a bad day they can be strict on carry on weights and contents. Lots of domestic flights out of Terminal 3 in NAIA which is the best terminal by far. Occasionally out of Terminal 4 which is probably the worst.
PAL should be the premier airline but you wouldn't know it. Yes, prices are all over the place. Multiples of other carriers or occasionally very cheap. Surprisingly, the worst connections to smaller tourist airports. The best if you insist on Business Class.
Yes, Air Asia is Malaysian and super budget. No frills but like CP, if you pay they will provide. Greatest baggage allowance if you use regular + sporting goods. I've found them good for on time performance but be prepared to walk repeated laps of the airport as gate changes are frequent.
I can't comment on West Coast flight options but would recommend just plugging your city into Google Travel / Flights and it will bring up a heap of options and indicative pricing. Don't rule out international arrival into Clark as an option.
If island hopping, remember that PI routes operate on a hub and spoke model so try to avoid doing repeated legs in and out of MNL or CEB. I always look up my intended airports on Wikipedia and it will give direct flights to and from. You can then try to order the stops in a circuit. I often use this as an excuse to pass through Davao, AC and Cebu too.
When you have an idea of preferred flights, I'd recommend booking direct with the airlines online. Using travel agents or aggregators adds another later of complexity and he said / she said if there are any problems.
Enjoy your trip. G.
P.S. Watch out for smaller airports, serviced by turbo props, having paltry baggage limits. 10 or 15 kgs isn't unusual.
WestCoast1
10-27-23, 09:37
Flight switching / CP-PAL / bait-switch.
Few months ago, flew from the province to Manila on CP. Took one of my regulars as a gift (to her, and to me). Purchased myself a 4-week round-trip ticket (staying the middle two weeks in AC), and the girl a 6-day (5 nights) round-trip ticket, from a CP ticketing office. Paid an extra p350 for each ticket to get what the ticketing agent said were exit-row seats (27 Bravo and 27 Charlie). I was later emailed a change of flight, for later in the day, with a new record-locator (MP5 ZDW, or such). I checked in online and got our boarding passes before going to the airport. I noticed that the seats changed to 28 Bravo and 28 Charlie. Well, there went my exit row (additional legroom) seats. When I got to the airport and checked in, I was assured by the checkin agent that row 28 on this aircraft were exit row seats. All good.
When we got on the aircraft and reached row 27, I noticed that was the exit row (literally, there is a door in the wall, and seat A is missing) with lots of legroom. Row 28 was a standard seat, no extra legroom. I questioned that with the flight attendant. A whopping admission of a scam: "Yes sir. This row 28 is standard seats". But I purchased exit row seats for extra money. "Yes sir. But if you check your emailed receipt, you will see you now have a standard seat". Miss, you are making my case. I purchased an exit row seat. "But sir if you check your receipt you will see we changed it to standard later". I see. When do I get my p350 +350 back? "What?" I want my money back. CP charged my credit card immediately when I purchased, for the full amount of +p700. I want back the 700. "Oh. Really?" She said it like a refund was a novel idea. "Sir I don't know about that. Can you show me the receipt in email? It will have an item by item purchase price".
I logged into my email on the phone, went back a week or two, found the emailed receipt. She was right, it showed the seats charged at p260 for Standard Seats. But that couldn't be correct. The amount on my CC hadn't changed. I also noticed that while I was emailed a confirmation from CP at the time of purchase, the actual receipt was sent to my email 5 days after I made the original purchase. Here is the FA's confession of a crime: "Sir you see there is some delay in when we send you a receipt". Yes, 5 days from the date of purchase. "Yes sir. That's why". Ma'am the delay doesn't explain the change of seat, nor the price discrepancy. "Sir it does explain. They send the receipt days later. Because some flights will cancel from not enough seats sold. They will move you to another flight. If your 27 Bravo and 27 Charlie is already taken on that new flight, you will get different seats sir". I see, miss. Then where is my refund? Its small, but its p90 per seat. "Yes sir". Why didn't they credit that back to my CC? "You will have to complain in Manila sir but I think it won't work as we emailed you about this". Grrrr. Also miss, you saying that they wait until they have time to switch aircraft, knowing in advance that they will do that, is indicative of fraud if they know they are keeping money from more expensive seat sales. "Not me sir". No, the company. "Yes. Sorry po". Miss, if I hadn't brought this to your attention, would they return the money to me? "No sir I think not".
She said all of this with a well-trained look: a coat-hangar stuffed inside of her mouth to force a smile. In addition, how could the check-in agent at the airport be wrong about row 28 being an exit row? Its either a big misunderstanding on my behalf, or its all a scam. Decide for yourself.
But, the party is not over. The hits keep on coming. I decided to stay a few extra days, so I cancelled my CP flight and kept the money in my account. Looking for a later flight, I found a better / cheaper one on PAL. On PAL, I'd purchased exit row seat mid-aircraft. But when I checked in online the day prior, the boarding pass said I was seated one row back (ye old Standard seat). I went online to the chatbot, and after about 20 minutes, DING! I'd reached a live chat operator. I explained the switch. "Yes sir that is Standard seats. Sir I have one exit row seat in the front of the aircraft open, 21 Bravo. Will you like that? Extra legroom". Yes! Problem solved, right? "Sir its p76 more. I will send you a link. Click it and pay with your credit card". But I already paid p320 for the previous exit row seat. "Sorry po its required". So I paid the p76 and got switched to 21 Bravo. All good, right? In this instance, PAL personnel were able to fix the bad situation, but keep in mind that PAL also caused the problem. Also keep in mind that the boarding pass on the phone is small, it would have been easy to not see the incorrect similar seat and row, and not caught the problem until boarding (too late to fix).
These are bait / switch. Also, on CP when purchasing, you can choose a seat by viewing an aircraft seat map (see pic). On their equipment, the seatmap shows yellow seats for exit row. If you mouse-over any of the yellow seats, it says: "Exit Row. You must be at least 15, and be able to help in an emergency, extra legroom, blah blah". At row 27, you will see the exit rows in yellow. Also in yellow are rows 28 and 29. You get the same mouse-over message. You also pay extra for these, thinking they are extra legroom and actual exit rows. However when you board, 28 and 29 are just standard seats. You will need to fly to Manila to complain.
OTOH, I have since flown on PAL, purchased an exit row seat (no longer called exit row, now called COMFORT) and got it when I boarded.
My experience with PAL ticket office at NAIA. Pal operates a ticketing office on the 2nd or 3rd floor (can't remember which) of the airport. I went there to inquire about a later date ticket issue. The office area is large with seating for 100+ customers. A security guard gives you a number when you enter and the agents call you to their window in order. There are about 12 windows although only 3 agents on duty. Very, Very slow, I gave up after waiting 45 minutes and left along with many others. Tried again another day and I was determined to make it and had a book to read. It Took 90 minutes to reach a window. Take Away is PAL has no interest in customer service at NAIA, In Cebu City there are a couple of off aiport PAL ticket offices I've used and always good fast service. YMMV. I was burnt once by PAL changing an International reservation moving departure out 10 days, Cost me as much as a new ticket and original cost was gone, "Sorry Sir that's' our policy" It's a scam. Learned not to make a reservation until very sure I want that date, their statement about change fees being X are false. To use PAL Air Miles; Reservations within 5 days of departure cost money plus miles. The money is virtually the cost of the flight without using the miles but of course they take the miles. Another PAL scam. I'll get off my soap box now!
Errol Flynn
10-28-23, 04:21
I'm still waiting for a response from Cebu Pacific on changing my flight. Their Charlie Chatbot responded that they got my message, but that's all so far.
Meanwhile, for those who may arrive in AC before check in time I want to share CPT's official policy (from an email they sent me). I am guessing other similar caliber hotels may have similar policies. Certainly worth asking.
Our official check-in time is 2 PM.
· For check-ins from 11 AM to 2 PM, approval is subject to availability but there is no added charge.
· For check-ins from 6 AM – 11 AM, guaranteed when booked in advance but ½ day charge will apply.
· For check-ins before 6 AM, guaranteed when booked in advance but full day charge will apply.
If we cannot give you early access to the room, we will gladly store your belongings / luggage until the room can be made ready and available.
WestCoast1
10-28-23, 06:54
My experience with PAL ticket office at NAIA. SNIP Tried again another day and I was determined to make it and had a book to read. It Took 90 minutes to reach a window. Take Away is PAL has no interest in customer service at NAIA, In Cebu City there are a couple of off aiport PAL ticket offices I've used and always good fast service. YMMV. I was burnt once by PAL changing an International reservation moving departure out 10 days, Cost me as much as a new ticket and original cost was gone, "Sorry Sir that's' our policy" It's a scam. Besides my previous rant about CP and PAL, I should say that my multiple visits to PAL ticketing offices is similar to your description: Large aircon office, several agents working, 1-2 dozen customers usually (but also once there was only a handful of customers waiting). Pro tip: Tell the guard upon entering that you are a SENIOR, he will give you a priority number (however, don't be surprised to see that almost all the other customers before you are also seniors or PWD / buntis, they will also have priority numbers). Its best to hit any ticketing agent when they open in the morning (CP, PAL, or other). It can easily take 30-60 minutes to reach a window (bring your Kindle).
Another PAL scam. I'll get off my soap box now!Looks like I got him: STARTED!
Locamotive
10-29-23, 20:15
I am far from a PI expert and I hope those with much more experience will weigh in, but figuring out travel in and to the PI can make a big difference in a trip, so I want to give my recent experience and get thoughts:
International: For my first trip to the PI last spring I chose Philippine Airlines (PAL), mostly because they have a direct flight from LAX, it was $100-$200 more than other options but I thought it worth it.
My experience with PAL was a mid-grade airline. Sort of like a domestic United flight 20 years ago. Check in was awful. You really needed to be there three hours in advance and when I finally got to the front of the line the agent was clueless. Then you go to LAX's horrible new terminal and wait. Boarding was a chaotic mess and we took off 45 minutes late. The staff (being Filipino_ were friendly and polite and the female ones were mostly lookers. I can't judge the dudes. They had the little extras like small blankets and pillows and night kits. The technology on the plane was abysmal. Meals were 1990's domestic level, but we were fed plenty and got a few drinks. Not horrible, but certainly not great.
On the way back they cancelled my flight. They auto rebooked me on a flight at a terrible time, but it wasn't hard to go online and choose a flight I liked. I left a day late which might not work for some of you but it didn't bug me too much.
For my upcoming (November) trip the lowest LAX-MNL RT prices were about $1000 but required a 10 hour lay over in Istanbul. Maybe some day, but not now, The same PAL flight I took before was about $1500, or I could fly a combination of Starluxe and Eva for about $1350-$1400. Those are both highly rated Taiwan based airlines. But meant a signoficant layover in Taiwan on both trips. Not sure it was the right choice, but I decided to roll the dice with PAL again. FWIW the LAX-MNL PAL flight arrives at 5:40 am (actually 6:30 last time) so there is an early check in issue. Central Park AC has some secret provisions for that I may try to share later.
Any thoughts on the best way to get from the US West Coast to the PI?
Domestic:
So far I have booked three flights with Cebu Pacific / Cebugo and two have been cancelled. Full disclosure. Two of those flights were for my PI GF but I booked them and got all the communications. My impression is that Cebu Pacific is running a bait and switch scam. They list all sorts of flights at good prices, but then they cancel half of them and move you to a flight they want to fill up (not the next flight). On the first Cancellation they canned my GF's flight to Butuan and moved it to the next day. Okay if that's rare. But then it happened to me! I had booked a flight for both of us to fly to Boracay on November 17th at 12:55 pm (a gentlemanly hour). They automatically switched me to 8 am on November 19th. But I prepaid for a Boracay hotel starting the 17th! That ain't going to fly. So I looked at their website and they have seats available on a 2:10 Nov 17 flight nonstop to Boracay (MPH). It's just that they're priced higher than what I paid a month ago. On their website they didn't even give me an option of switching to that flight for a fee! They just offered for me to confirm the new flight they had chosen or "request a refund". Obviously they want me to rebook at the new fare, but that's not why I booked early. There is an early morning flight on the 17th from Clark on Air Asia at a good price, or I can travel to MNL and ly on PAL mid afternoon at a fair price. I have written to Cebu asking them to move me to the 2:10 pm flight and will update this if I here back.
Air Asia: I have never booked on this airline, but the internet says it's a Malaysia based low budget airline with some Filipino investors and it soun DS like it's better than Cebu Pacific or Cebu Go. Any information appreciated.
PAL Domestic: thyere aren't a lot of domestic flights on PAL and sometimes (not always) they are much pricier than the other airlines. I didn't think it was a first class airline, but is it better than the oprions?
On my upcoming trip I am doing a bunch of island hopping. Some of it date sensitive. And I appreciate hearing thoughts.
Errol.There is no customer service in the Philippines when it comes to airlines. If you travel domestic just let it pick a seat and sit down shut up and buckle up. Flights are usually short so whatever. If flying international God forbid you try and change a ticket date. Tried this couple times Korean once and JAL. Its basically just buy another ticket. The change fees are a joke as I just wanted to stay two extra days and fly out same trip two days later. Sir, that's 1500 dollars. WTF! The enitre ticket was only 1800 you are crazy. Sorry darling I'd like to stay but not for $1500. Now I just book for as long as I can stay with no wiggle room so I can't change my mind as no airline there will work with you.
Erroll Flynn looks like he does marathons. USA to Manila via Istanbul. And the prices.
My situation is nearly as bad. I spotted a cheap as chips flight with British Airways + Cathay. Checking Travelup, who run it, lots of negative reviews and bait and switches. I don't need that. I now have my eyes ion a reasanable Peoples Republic of China flight.
I don't know why the Yanks don't just follow the swallows and fly south for the winter. Anyway, not my problem.
I have used a variety of cheap Asian airlines with no problem, bar many years ago with PAL where they were charging everyone excess baggage (I got charged for an extra kilo). Luckily, PAL is no longer an option from Europe.
Speaking of Europe, I bought a special Ryanair bag that fits under the seat, so for most of their flights, I now only pay bare minimum. I am not sure how relevant such bags are to Asian flights.
Given the negative reviews Angeles is getting, I think the best move might be to hit on some rural place and bonk away but it is a long way to go for limited returns. There is a definite opening in the market here but, as I reported from Napoli, other options have their own considerable risks.
AussieGaigin
11-04-23, 06:55
Most airlines allow back packs which will fit under the seats (many prefer you to do this so there is room in the lockers for suitcases), subject to carry on weight limits.
WestCoast1
11-04-23, 10:56
CP has announced a round of promo fares, both domestic (as low as p199 before taxes / fees) and international. See pic for a domestic teaser, and link for all such fares.
https://www.cebupacificair.com/en-PH/seat-sale
Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? Wrapped meals ready to be microwaved?
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?
Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? It is an international franchise so it should be near enough
Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? I never saw one in Thai jungles or paddy fields but there are plenty where lazy mongers go
and the motorbikes are ubiquitous
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?The unit of currency in the Philippines is the peso, not the American (56), Australian (36) or Canadian (41). I previously gave the rates blind folk charge in various malls. Do you think you could rtff or would you like me to do that and convert into the currency of your choice?
CP has announced a round of promo fares, both domestic (as low as p199 before taxes / fees) and international. See pic for a domestic teaser, and link for all such fares.
https://www.cebupacificair.com/en-PH/seat-saleI've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?
AussieGaigin
11-06-23, 03:57
I've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?Usually only a limited number of these cheap seats on each flight. You really have to be quick, they often go within minutes of being announced.
WestCoast1
11-06-23, 06:24
I've tried to book those piso fares and can never get them, even if the promo is for the destination and date I'm trying to book. Are they actually real?Yes. You must wait to make the reservation during the stated sale period (in this case, you must make the reservation between Nov 1 and Nov 15), and only for flights within the travel period (in this case, flights between those particular cities between Nov 1 and March 31 2024). They run this type of special 2-3 times per year. I have noted that during the sale period, starting Nov 1 thru Nov 15, the website often slows to a crawl as everyone is attempting to get the discount.
Expat American
11-06-23, 07:14
Is 7-11 in Philippines as good as 7-11 in Thailand? Are they as prevalent everywhere like in Thailand? Wrapped meals ready to be microwaved?
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?Massage is about 350 to 400 P per hour but the quality is much lower than Thailand. Why 7-11 should be a consideration for any travel planning is beyond me but yes, there are 7-11 in the Philippines and probably carry the same food, but again, why that would matter is really strange.
You monger in the Phils to have BBFS with mostly average looking English speaking girls. Thats about it. You don't go there for food or massage or 7-11.
WestCoast1
11-06-23, 09:44
Are there lots of legit cheap massage spots in Philippines? Like $6 for an hour foot massage?
You monger in the Phils to have BBFS with mostly average looking English speaking girls. Thats about it. Usually I agree. But:
You don't go there for food or massage or 7-11.I have discovered that there is a percentage of fellas that are primarily rub-and-tug fellas. They can go to an asian sexpat destination and spend all of their nawty dollars in massage places. Or alternately they are just massage afficianados who have 1-2-3 massages daily (a full-body each morning, a foot massage every afternoon, a nawty massage caps off the evening). They barfine or find FL girls as a second option only. I find it odd that anyone of such persuasion would go to AC, but I have found them having lunch at Kokomo's.
TD I am not sure of that $6 (p300) price, as Manila prices are often a few bucks higher ($10 maybe) than elsewhere. To twist it a bit more, my province city's prices (which should be lower than Manila) were pre-covid p300, then jumped to p600 for standard 1-hour massage after the post-covid re-opening and remained that way for 2 years, before settling back down to p400. In AC last month p400 was standard, and the place across the street from Scorebirds was p300.
Yes. You must wait to make the reservation during the stated sale period (in this case, you must make the reservation between Nov 1 and Nov 15), and only for flights within the travel period (in this case, flights between those particular cities between Nov 1 and March 31 2024). They run this type of special 2-3 times per year. I have noted that during the sale period, starting Nov 1 thru Nov 15, the website often slows to a crawl as everyone is attempting to get the discount.Even if you have jumped through all the hoops mentioned, often there is only a certain number of discounted seats available on each flight. Sometimes it's a crazy low number like 5 or so. If you are number 6, then it's bad luck.
G.
TD I am not sure of that $6 (p300) price, as Manila prices are often a few bucks higher ($10 maybe) than elsewhere. To twist it a bit more, my province city's prices (which should be lower than Manila) were pre-covid p300, then jumped to p600 for standard 1-hour massage after the post-covid re-opening and remained that way for 2 years, before settling back down to p400. In AC last month p400 was standard, and the place across the street from Scorebirds was p300.I usually go to a massage shop opposite Robinsons in Malate. I was shocked in July that the price had risen to 350 p which is $A10. I did get a haircut for 100 p and the girl sorry LB was so excited with my 100 p tip. The cut was pretty good BTW.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-67305693
This is a report on how Thailand is getting a different sort of Chinese tourist: top tier and rich LGBT only. I guess the Philippines is still, ahem, virgin territory, helped by itb only catring to Koreans, Western losers and grand papas like us.
WestCoast1
11-07-23, 16:50
Tourism. Last full pre-Covid year was 2019, with 8. 2 million foreign visitors (see graph, first pic). Extrapolating from the bar graph, that would add about a half million to a million per year, if not for the pandemic. Website: https://www.statista.com/statistics/1053908/philippines-number-of-foreign-visitor-tourist-arrivals/.
For the first 10 months of 2023 (see second pic), 4 million foreign visitors. Extrapolating to include the last 2 months, it should be close to 5 million. Not yet back up to the pre-pandemic extrapolation (about half as much this year), and a given is that Phils has been re-opened for 18 months. Website: http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2023/11/11-06/2023-October.pdf.
And for fun, you can see the list (third pic) of countries with foreign visitors to Phils, ranked in order from most to least. N Korea is #1 so far this year (1.1 million tourists), then the US (740K), Japan, China, Australia (207K), Canada (180K), Taiwan, and UK (125K). No wonder we're getting waxed in AC. Website: http://tourism.gov.ph/files/2023/11/11-06/2023-October.pdf.
Shining Wit
11-07-23, 21:01
From an aviation related site I frequent, it seems United are now operating non-stop flights to Manila. Daily ex-LOS Angeles, already started. I think this is the only non-PAL non-stop flight from North America.
Errol Flynn
11-08-23, 05:17
There is no customer service in the Philippines when it comes to airlines.Many days after I wrote to CebuPacific Customer Service I received an email back that said if I didn't like the flight they had chosen for me I could go online and change it. EOM. The problem is I can't. Through the very link they resent I could either accept the totally unacceptable date they proposed or request a refund. I wrote them back explaining that I had tried to change my flight online but couldn't. All I heard since was an email saying my issue was resolved. To which I responded that it wasn't. But I have heard nothing further.
PAL has a flight from Manila (instead of AC) that would work for me (and, hey, I'd get Mabuhay Miles!) but it doesn't seem like BMs thin much higher of PAL than Cebu P.
I know this is a first world problem, but as a PI newbie I'm open to input.
WestCoast1
11-08-23, 06:26
Many days after I wrote to CebuPacific Customer Service I received an email back that said if I didn't like the flight they had chosen for me I could go online and change it. EOM. The problem is I can't. Through the very link they resent I could either accept the totally unacceptable date they proposed or request a refund. I wrote them back explaining that I had tried to change my flight online but couldn't. All I heard since was an email saying my issue was resolved. To which I responded that it wasn't. But I have heard nothing further.I am sorry for your loss. Your loss of any semblance of trust in CP, or your trust in 'the system'. Don't you find it interesting that you must email CP Cust Service. You can't call them, as calling them would require employees to answer phones, and employees to help fix your issue RIGHT NOW. Employees cost money, and they are not interested in your issue. Instead, they reply to your email inquiry / complaint about a week after you send it. Or alternately, they just don't reply. And each time the do reply, a different CSR handles your issue.
PAL has a flight from Manila (instead of AC) that would work for me (and, hey, I'd get Mabuhay Miles!) but it doesn't seem like BMs thin much higher of PAL than Cebu P.CP is typically the crappier of the two organizations. Regarding cancellations. As an example. PAL offers 3 flights on any give day from your departure city to your arrival city. Most flights are full each day. OTOH, CP offers 6 flights from the departure city to the destination, daily. Each flight is usually half-full. Three of the flights are then cancelled, pushing the passengers on cancelled flights over to the remaining CP flights, mostly filling them (or alternately pushing some CP passengers to flights a different day). CP flights are a bit cheaper.
Six of one (CP), half a dozen of the other (PAL).
I know this is a first world problem, but as a PI newbie I'm open to input.Recently someone on the board said that its just easier to take your lumps, show up, sit in whatever seat they assigned you at the check-in counter, and shut up. Flights are at most 90 minutes and you can live thru anything for such a short period of time. At issue: Why should you have to live thru your issue without being able to talk to someone about it TODAY?
Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.
Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.From where to where? Dumaguete to Cebu City?
"Cebu" can mean the city, the island or the province. Trips can be from one to twelve hours and not all drivers go everywhere.
Of course, the easiest solution is to have your destination hotel come collect you. It's reliable but comes at a cost.
Cheers. G.
Hello all, I am traveling to Cebu on the 18th of this month and wanted to know if there are any reputable car service companies in the area? I really don't want to rent a vehicle given the nature of international companies.Try posting in the Cebu forum.
Banana Boi
11-18-23, 19:41
If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.
FuriousGeorge
11-18-23, 20:58
I used to spend a few days in Makati before spending the bulk of my time in AC. The last time I did it, believe it or not, there was way less to do in Makati during the day than AC, especially if you want things within walking distance. I couldn't even find a bar open during the day to hang out at. Makati has a great nightlife scene if you're good looking and have game. And insane amount of non pro hotties that party every night. The girlie bars do, on average, have a better looking girls. But as has been noted, you'll pay at least twice as much. I don't really go with money as an object either, but I kept thinking that this cash would go a lot further in AC. Last visit I got off the plane and got in a private car and went straight to AC. That's what I plan to do in a few weeks. If you've never done it though, Manila is definitely worth a visit.
If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.
If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.AC and Manila (and the girls who live there) are totally different markets. Search my posts as I've listed the comparisons a few times.
There are plenty of transport and accommodation options at both so no need to commit to how many days at each before arrival. Just go have a look for yourself and decide which best suits you.
For a picky weekend millionaire, I'd point out that Manila has a lot more options in clubs, girlie bars and online.
I'd recommend Greenbelt rather than Makati proper. Greenbelt malls and the nearby area have lots to do during the day and evening (eat, drink, movies etc) and is only a very short taxi to Burgos and the Poblacion clubs. Online girls also won't get lost if you say "meet at Greenbelt 5". BGC is another option. Makati around Burgos is just a big city wasteland during the day. A pro top is that an AirBnB condo can have more features and be less intimidating for a good girl than being asked to meet in a hotel room.
Enjoy. G.
I used to spend a few days in Makati before spending the bulk of my time in AC. The last time I did it, believe it or not, there was way less to do in Makati during the day than AC, especially if you want things within walking distance. I couldn't even find a bar open during the day to hang out at. Makati has a great nightlife scene if you're good looking and have game. And insane amount of non pro hotties that party every night. The girlie bars do, on average, have a better looking girls. But as has been noted, you'll pay at least twice as much. I don't really go with money as an object either, but I kept thinking that this cash would go a lot further in AC. Last visit I got off the plane and got in a private car and went straight to AC. That's what I plan to do in a few weeks. If you've never done it though, Manila is definitely worth a visit.AC is also better for a guy on his own. Its normal there. The Makati clubs are full of groups of buddies and packs of girls. Definitely not insurmountable but a single guy will stick out anywhere outside Burgos.
G.
You forgot Dubai where the top of the class lot go. Hooking runs in some families and they pass tips to each other, money to carry, line to tell at immigration etc. Like any other trade, you have fast learners and, as you say, country bumkins.
This feeds backwards. Why do short time in Manila when you can make 100 times the amount for less work in the ME.Is Dubai really that attractive for Asian girls?
I've only ever met one Pina who was returning from a hooking session there. Smoking hot but she wanted 15,000 peso over night in Manila which isn't that far off some of the prices being quoted on the Dubai forum: 500 AED /7500 PHP ST; 1500 AED /21000 PHP LT. Some simp was probably paying her asking price locally and her outgoings would have been much less.
Cheers. G.
WestCoast1
11-30-23, 07:28
I've only ever met one Pina who was returning from a hooking session there. Smoking hot but she wanted 15,000 peso over night in Manila which isn't that far off some of the prices being quoted on the Dubai forum: 500 AED /7500 PHP ST; 1500 AED /21000 PHP LT. Some simp was probably paying her asking price locally and her outgoings would have been much less.So its possible that a Filipina will go for P21000 (400 USD) for LT? I say that sarcastically, because of course some girls will go for that much. High-end girls are not always even available to the public, they are by private appt only. All countries have such girls. Yet some guys were writing here previously that it was just too much to give Burgos gogo girls half that amount. The idea that girls from this country or that country are only worth X pesos / dollars because girls in another country are better-looking for less pesos / dollars, is a misnomer. If they are getting a higher amount, there is a market for them in that niche. The better comparison is how much the ladies are going for in this local venue vs a different venue within a country (ie, Burgos vs AC, gogo girls vs SW / FL, Jakarta vs Surabaya, BKK vs Patts, etc).
Member #4794
11-30-23, 07:46
The better comparison is how much the ladies are going for in this local venue vs a different venue within a country (ie, Burgos vs AC, gogo girls vs SW / FL, Jakarta vs Surabaya, BKK vs Patts, etc).At this point I think this is becoming counter productive let this section be about the "philippines" solid info that people are looking for.
Having an opinion like some have stated here that these women are ugly is what it is, I don't agree with that but, insisting on everyone else also having the point of view that these women are ugly is just a waste of time and muddies the forum imo.
If they are interested in Brazil they will go to that section if they have an interest in Jakarta they will find it.
IMO posting about Jakarta or Thailand or Brazil ect. Is SPAM where the philippines is concerned. Making the comparison Is ok as well and I think is relevant but going into any detail should be in the relevant section.
AC and Manila (and the girls who live there) are totally different markets. Search my posts as I've listed the comparisons a few times.
There are plenty of transport and accommodation options at both so no need to commit to how many days at each before arrival. Just go have a look for yourself and decide which best suits you.
For a picky weekend millionaire, I'd point out that Manila has a lot more options in clubs, girlie bars and online.
I'd recommend Greenbelt rather than Makati proper. Greenbelt malls and the nearby area have lots to do during the day and evening (eat, drink, movies etc) and is only a very short taxi to Burgos and the Poblacion clubs. Online girls also won't get lost if you say "meet at Greenbelt 5". BGC is another option. Makati around Burgos is just a big city wasteland during the day. A pro top is that an AirBnB condo can have more features and be less intimidating for a good girl than being asked to meet in a hotel room.
Enjoy. G.Greenbelt was nice but all the hookers hitting on me there were old or just not attractive. Complete bummer for such a nice area. If I was a hottie I would work greenbelt every night. Forget the bars.
If I decide on Philippines, I only have around a 10 day window before I need to go back to Thailand. Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Although half the price I have some hesitation on the AC girl quality. I am really picky. Since it's a short trip I'll be a Weekend Millionaire so am not too phased about the high prices in Makati.I detest Makati. Never been to a girlie bar. The malls are large and unappealing and the business area is sterile. I prefer Malate and Robinsons. Its near LA Cafe if that's your thing but I get all my girls online. Pina, Tantan are main ones. Pasay is an alternative as well with Mall of Asia though it is also overly large. Never been to AC.
Errol Flynn
11-30-23, 13:22
Question is how many days should I spend in Makati vs AC? In Makati I would go to the SM malls during the day then Burgos, LA Cafe, etc at night. In AC I don't think there's much to do during the day so really only Fields at night. Or should I just do 3 in Makati, 2 in AC and decide?
Just my 2 cents, but I found the girl quality MUCH higher in AC than Makati. Sure, there are a lot of fuglies in AC but there are a LOT of girls, so if 5% are hot to you, you'll find a lot more hotties in AC. Makati was very disappointing (this was last spring, YMMV). Makati felt like the Times Square clip joints of the 1990's.
There are stunners in AC. They don't go for 2500 php, but you're a one week millionaire.
Just my 2 cents, but I found the girl quality MUCH higher in AC than Makati. Sure, there are a lot of fuglies in AC but there are a LOT of girls, so if 5% are hot to you, you'll find a lot more hotties in AC. Makati was very disappointing (this was last spring, YMMV). Makati felt like the Times Square clip joints of the 1990's.
There are stunners in AC. They don't go for 2500 php, but you're a one week millionaire.AC definitely has a ton of girls. It was mind boggling how many hookers were in one small place. I never saw anything like it in 20 years of mongering. Before AC Help was the most hookers I ever saw in one place, AC made that place look like a massage parlor. The amazing part is how there are enough men to go around for all those girls. You would think the herd would thin out more since there wouldn't be enough business for everyone.
WestCoast1
12-01-23, 07:28
AC definitely has a ton of girls. It was mind boggling how many hookers were in one small place. I never saw anything like it in 20 years of mongering. Before AC Help was the most hookers I ever saw in one place, AC made that place look like a massage parlor. The amazing part is how there are enough men to go around for all those girls. You would think the herd would thin out more since there wouldn't be enough business for everyone.In addition, from pre-covid to post-covid, there has been a fairly large change in the AC customer landscape. Prior to AC, Koreans (and Japanese) were an increasing number of visitors, and gringos were still the majority of visitors (but dwindling). The place closes completely for 2 years, and upon re-opening the Koreans are 60%+ of the people on the WS, and in the non-K bars most of the customers are no longer week-long visiting warriors, but expats who live in the area. The white visitor seems to have stayed home in mom's basement.
Other gents correct me if I am wrong about this next part. But should Teej decide to come back to asia, BKK / Patts have a phenomenally larger number of girls (with a flatter tummy) available between the larger number of gogos, Thermae, and beer gardens (beer gardens are similar to LA Cafe, with somewhat better looking girls, and there are dozens of them in both cities).
In addition, from pre-covid to post-covid, there has been a fairly large change in the AC customer landscape. Prior to AC, Koreans (and Japanese) were an increasing number of visitors, and gringos were still the majority of visitors (but dwindling). The place closes completely for 2 years, and upon re-opening the Koreans are 60%+ of the people on the WS, and in the non-K bars most of the customers are no longer week-long visiting warriors, but expats who live in the area. The white visitor seems to have stayed home in mom's basement.Agreed, but it is also worth noting that the number of expats dropped significantly during the pandemic, so there is even less demand to be factored in along with depleted tourist numbers. As soon as lockdowns were beginning to be announced majority of people I knew fled back to home countries, particularly those with young families.
Other gents correct me if I am wrong about this next part. But should Teej decide to come back to asia, BKK / Patts have a phenomenally larger number of girls (with a flatter tummy) available between the larger number of gogos, Thermae, and beer gardens (beer gardens are similar to LA Cafe, with somewhat better looking girls, and there are dozens of them in both cities).Agreed on the whole, but not necessarily at Thermae or beer gardens, girls at those were not hotter than the ones available in bars in Burgos or AC. I've said thoughts on this before, I enjoy living in the Philippines immensely, but if I was a tourist traveling thousands of miles, it'd be Thailand I go to. More to do in the day, better places to get traditional (and naughty) massages, and larger selection of venues at night (Gogos, normal bars and nightclubs). A larger number of bars = more girls, however, if you don't like Asian girls it is pointless going to either, it was lack of ass that bothered Tijuana if I remember correctly. If he couldn't find anyone in Burgos, a larger percentage of girls probably would not help so better sticking with Brazil or Colombia?
WestCoast1
12-01-23, 13:19
Agreed on the whole, but not necessarily at Thermae or beer gardens, girls at those were not hotter than the ones available in bars in Burgos or AC. Wildly agree. I was comparing beer garden gals only to LA Cafe.
A larger number of bars = more girls, however, if you don't like Asian girls it is pointless going to either, it was lack of ass that bothered Tijuana if I remember correctly. If he couldn't find anyone in Burgos, a larger percentage of girls probably would not help so better sticking with Brazil or Colombia?I was trying to get him to stay out of Phils. More ass for you and me. Kidding TeeJay, you come back anytime.
Don Roberts
12-02-23, 10:40
Originally posted in Cebu 2022- but nobody much goes there.
Fatties & Trannies.
Just back in Cebu after 3 years absent. Still a 3rd world shithole. Only had 2 regulars to call. One is pregnant. The other one is gone fat.
Would have been rude to tell her to get lost, so I took one for the team. Last time I did a fat chick was my one & only ex-wife.
Looked online- Fatties & Trannies!
Not many bikini bars left, & my car sat for 3 years & not so reliable.
So, I can't get out to reconnoiter. I've been coming to the philippines 24 +/- years now.
I'm stuck way out in Mactan, Maribago, nso it's hard to get girls to come out here.
Any tips appreciated!
I forgot to send $ to ISG before I left so no messaging.
I'm going to post a list of bars etc I got off the internet- can't vouch for if it's accurate:
CLUB TIPSY.
MANDAUE.
2nd floor Hi-way central bldg M. See Briones St, Mandaue City, Philippines, 6014.
Opens every Thursday- Saturday 9:00 PM to 5:00 AM.
He And She (Bikini Bar).
227 Osmeña Blvd, Cebu City, 6000 Cebu, Philippines.
CLUB HAVANA.
LL2 X.
And. SIDE RD TO AIRPORT etc.
THE PHILLY.
MACTAN.
CLUB GIRLFRIENDS.
Address: M. V Patalinghug Pajo, Lapu-Lapu City, Cebu, Philippines.
HONEYPOT SPORTS BAR MACTAN.
Players club opposite grandmall.
MACTAN.
Kangaroo bar MACTAN same place is good live music karaoke.
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Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.
Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.
Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.With all due respect at your age have you heard of GIGO?
Garbage In Garbage Out.
Details about yourself would be most helpful. Weight, mobility, hobbies, likes, dislikes and on and on. Most important is your budget. Hotel budget. Travel budget. Budget for girls.
What does organize and accompany you mean? A travel guide? Make a daily routine schedule for you?
With better input you will get a better results.
I flicked through your posts. Going on them, you should go to either manila or Angeles ad pace out your fucking. Tour guides seem to be not for you and using a hooker as a tour guide is not for anyone.
Hi.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful ne.
I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.Also, how long are you, Gratass, staying for??
If days, then hit the bars. If weeks, hit online. If months then you will meet civilians.
It's very easy to find a travel companion. Just remember to leave your self a way out should thing turn bad. Many girls are great for a few days but can become tiring after that.
Be careful delegating too much too the girl otherwise you will end up seeing what she wants to and possibly being led to her cousin, the tour car driver extraordinaire.
Age really is up to you. Anywhere along the spectrum won't be a problem.
Enjoy. G.
Just one other piece of advice. If you're around a non-hardened pro for more than a few days, she will probably tell you that she loves you. And she will mean it, at least in some form. Be prepared for that. Be prepared for clinginess after she says that. Be prepared for jealousy if you continue much longer than that. All things to consider when taking a girl along with you.
Be prepared for bullshit in its many forms. If a girl is a pro in any sense of the word, her job is to get your money. Don't be easily separated from it.
But, there are good things, too. Like my 21 year old from Mindanao. I can call and talk to her at any time because she has nothing to hide. She has told me the good and the unflattering things about her. She actually is honest and does what she says she will and doesn't ask for money. She actually waited to say love, is not clingy, and is not jealous. I say this just to show that there are many sides to the girls here.
Hi.
I have read a lot but haven't found a good answer, I need expert advice.
I am 67 years old and have never been to the Philippines before. I have now booked tickets for January. I want to enjoy myself with ladies. Age from 25 and up. I also want to experience beautiful nature and culture. What is the right place for me?
Manila? Palawan? Cebu? Borocay?
I could also imagine hiring a lady to organize and accompany me around. Does that make sense?
What age range do I have to look for? (I don't want them old, I have a lot of old girlfriends back home.).
I hope someone can give me some advice.My recommendation, just go there with your mind and eyes open. If in Manila, start off in LA Cafe. You'll meet a regular lady just looking for money. If you want to make more of that, then just pay more and if things hit off, then take them on travel as a companion. It's really easy there in the PI overall. Just don't go there with an attitude and wearing a cape believing you are "Superman" there to save some lady and her family. Take your time and what you are looking for will come to you!
Anyone been to Siquijor? What's the availability of talent like?
With all due respect at your age have you heard of GIGO?
Garbage In Garbage Out.
Details about yourself would be most helpful. Weight, mobility, hobbies, likes, dislikes and on and on. Most important is your budget. Hotel budget. Travel budget. Budget for girls.
What does organize and accompany you mean? A travel guide? Make a daily routine schedule for you?
With better input you will get a better results.Thanks for a lot of good advice and tips. And especially this eye opener.
I'm in good shape, and is usualy out for 2-3 hours walking every day.
Budget aprox Euro 200 pr day?? Or should this be increast.
I have some experience with German FKK clubs. But that is FFFG (find, fuck and forget).
Now I'm actually looking for a lady who can also be nice to have breakfast with. And it will be a slightly different starting point.
I don't want to ruin my vacation by making a deal with a jealous, controlling lady. At the same time, I want to avoid dramatic scenes when I leave the Philippines.
I have to think a little more carefully about what might be the best. But it's nice planning. If there are more tips, they are welcome. If you have contacts I can use, please send a PM.
I will keep you updated along the way.
I would hit dating sites. Try to message whoever you are interested. Philippine girls are not picky about age. Meet and make a deal for travel if it works. If this approach does not work hit the bars in Manila, Angeles City. Meet girls in bars. Make your deal.
If you get the right girls you can plan accordingly to visit Palawan, Boracay etc.
Money talks. Not the looks, age. Philippine girls are nice and friendly mostly and will make your trip enjoyable. Do not worry if the first few girls refuse. Keep trying. There is always someone who will agree to your deal.I totally agree with this post. I would make my home base in Cebu and search girls on as many dating sites and pay for the full member option. Palawan and then Boracay.
WestCoast1
12-13-23, 14:03
Moved to Gen Info from AC thread.
I don't understand why regular visitors to Angeles City still insist on getting around the city on trikes, when renting a motorbike or scooter is far more practical and economical than using a trike 4 or 5 times a day. I always rent 2 wheels and I am free to move how and where I want, even up to Subic or San Fernando with a cost of 400/500 php per day and in complete freedom. Why make your life difficult by dealing with trike drivers or looking for a free one where we are?
Will never drive anything in the philippines. For ALL of the reasons you listed. Worst idea ever LOL.
This is a good list of reasons NOT to motobike in AC.
This also applies to many 3rd world countries and not just the Philippines. I had a friend that was involved in an accident in Thailand. Not his fault as the local on bike was going the wrong way on one way street. Both parties got serious injuries along with their passengers. All ending up in hospital. Conclusion was obvious. The one with money (always the foreigner and never the local) had to pay for ALL damages and ALL medical bills. Also, don't forget to get proper license. I've been stopped several times before in both Thailand and Indonesia. Police will often stop foreigners to check and it's easy money for them knowing most don't hold a valid motorcycle license.I drive here. There is very little that is new to learn, except for the customs of the drivers. I am not sure of any booklet that exists for Driver's Training (you can purchase lessons here if you want). If you have a valid foreign driver's license from your country you can apply for and quickly get a Phils driver's license without taking any written or driving test (only requirement: An eye exam). Some general rules of the road here:
1) Everyone moves his vehicle where he wants to, with little heed to other drivers or turn signals (motorcycles are much more likely to signal than sedans or trucks). Anyone can / will cut off anyone else, and nobody gets too upset about it. Turn signals are not used to change lanes, they are used at intersections to turn a corner.
2) Nose-in-front wins. The vehicle whose nose (front) is in the intersection first has the right of way, regardless of traffic signals (most intersections have no lights, yield or stop signs; I call them 4-way no-stops).
3) Nose in front wins again. You are driving along at a set speed in the left lane. The driver in the right lane is driving the same speed as you, but the nose of his vehicle is 12" further forward than yours. He will feel quite comfortable to change into the left lane, without signalling, by simply sliding left. Your choices are slim and dire: L) accelerate hard and get in front of him before he gets into your lane; M) move to your left, possibly into oncoming traffic or onto a sidewalk; or N) Slam on your brakes, decelerate hard, and let him slide into the left lane (this is your only realistic hope). Honking your horn will not stop his leftward movement (he fully expects you to MOVE out of his way). Yelling at him will not help in the moment, nor will he heed your ire.
4) You are in a circle or round-about, like the Fuente Circle in Cebu. There are, say, 2 lanes (left-inner lane and right-outer lane), and 4 entry / exits for the circle. Driving counter-clockwise, drivers entering the circle (from the right) will try hard to move quickly to the inside (left) lane. Then when they want to exit the circle, they will wildly careen across the right lane to exit to the right. Had the driver entering the circle stayed in the right lane, he would have avoided 2 lane crossings (the second one wildly dangerous). Even drivers proceeding thru just a quarter of the circle (90 degrees), entering (from the right to left) and exiting (left to right) quickly will attempt to get to the inside lane, then immediately to the outside right lane. Regardless of this being extremely common, its wildly irrational and dangerous. Speaking to pinoy drivers about this concept gets this kind of response: "Ya I don't know why we do that".
5) At least half, or more, of drivers don't look left (or right) when turning at an intersection. You can stand near any street corner and watch drivers making right-hand turns. They approach the corner and slow down, then turn right, without ever looking left. They rarely come to a complete stop when turning right on a red stop light (they almost treat it like its a green light).
6) Pinoy drivers pass on the left (and slowly) in, and just prior to, a curve in the road, where oncoming traffic is difficult to see. When oncoming traffic shows up suddenly in such a passing situation, the passing driver will not only swerve back into the right lane, he will cut off anyone he was passing, forcing them off the road or to decelerate hard. He might even take his foot off the gas and hit the brake in a panic, thus forcing the guy getting passed to react even faster.
7) Pinoy drivers are often very kind. Several times as I was learning the layout of the various streets, I made an incorrect left turn (a tiny sign, hidden by trees, shows the no-left-turn) or went the wrong way on a 1-way street. Other drivers (and pedestrians) will yell something like: "Sir don't do that. You don't go that way. Go straight". Very sweet.
8) Motorcycles rule the road. They are everywhere and outnumber other vehicles. Their small size means the drivers will drive maze-like thru a traffic jam anytime. I have learned to follow that lead.
9) I have learned to drive willy-nilly like the locals, cutting anyone off the same way they do. Its difficult to drive here and not be cut off several times when going somewhere, and cutting off several other people. I fear that I will return to the home country and drive the same way.
Roll Aides
12-17-23, 17:26
Anyone been to Siquijor? What's the availability of talent like?Nonexistent. BYO.
Moved to Gen Info from AC thread..I had motorcycles drive up on the sidewalk I was on to pass. They drove right past me, thinking I was safe on the sidewalk. Most dangerous place I have ever walked in my life. No stop signs and lights that don't work. The place is a real life Frogger game.
WestCoast1
12-18-23, 23:25
I had motorcycles drive up on the sidewalk I was on to pass. They drove right past me, thinking I was safe on the sidewalk. Most dangerous place I have ever walked in my life. No stop signs and lights that don't work. The place is a real life Frogger game.Frogger. Excellent description of Phils transportation, from the city to the provinces. Here, pedestrians don't need to go to an intersection to cross the street. "No stop signs and lights that don't work". They just cross anywhere. If traffic is stopped, its easy to cross the street, you just weave your way between car bumpers until you are on the other side. If traffic is moving, pinoy pedestrians will wait patiently by the side of the road, waiting for a clearance between vehicles. But they only wait about 30 seconds. Then they hold out their hand to stop the next oncoming vehicle, and make their way across the street by holding up their hand at each lane, to stop traffic*. Quaint system. In my country, that would be a recipe for getting an extended hospital stay.
Recently I hailed a taxi that was going northbound in the morning. Northbound traffic was in its usual daytime traffic jam, with zero traffic in the two southbound lanes. As we were sitting idly, I was about to suggest the driver turn around (a 180 degree turn), head south to a nearby east / west street that has little traffic. He beat me to the punch, turned the wheel hard left and stepped on the gas. The car whipped across both empty southbound lanes and up onto the sidewalk, leaving both tires on the passenger side on the sidewalk. "I will take the river drive sir". Great minds think alike. He had both southbound lanes to himself. Did he pull the car off the sidewalk and take the empty right southbound lane? No, he drove about 50-60 meters with the right half of the taxi up on the sidewalk before pulling the taxi off the sidewalk and into the right lane (we were coming up on a street light pole on the sidewalk).
* As if holding up your hand will stop a 1500 kg vehicle whose driver is not paying attention. It'll all be over soon.
WestCoast1
12-21-23, 06:14
Moved to the Gen Info thread.
Would you pay 35 k dollars for this ho ho ho. Some guys must be in pussy hell for a long time to bang this ugly chick. They could have flown to ac and stayed for a year and banged just as ugly for 50 dollars.
https://nypost.com/2023/12/18/business/stripper-and-escort-rakes-in-34k-per-week-catering-to-wall-street/Another article about the same woman:
https://www.businessinsider.com/escort-used-miradry-eliminate-armpit-sweating-hyperhydrosis-2023-12
It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:
For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.
I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's.
That miss Lee commands large immediate cash is proof that high-end ladies exist almost everywhere (notice I did not say extremely pretty ladies). Hi-end gals command the attention of rich folk for whatever reason, and they are not always the most attractive. We are accustomed to getting Manila FL for $60-ish USD LT, or AC gogo gals for $80-ish USD, province girls for $20-ish USD for LT, or Burgos (and BKK) gogo girls for $200-ish USD for LT. That's quite a range. Is it possible that there are Phils escorts (or girls working privately by word of mouth) commanding $1000 USD (or more) per hour? Of course there are. There will be similar in every country. Can you find younger and prettier than Miss Lee in other countries, for much less? Yes of course, that's why we are here. But the market is the market, and Miss Lee will continue to command her rate until she can't. These fellas aren't in pussy (or coffee) hell. They just have more money than they know what to do with, and 'speaks-4-languages' Miss Lee is gobbling it up.
WestCoast1
12-22-23, 03:30
Fellas, Noche Buena is almost upon us. Santa is firing up his ride. Hoping you can find a goodie, a bit like this one who, at 4' 10" and 75 lbs, has a nice touchy and some fossales lombalez thingys. Open your goodies in private, as this one and I have done multiple times.
Thanks for a lot of good advice and tips. And especially this eye opener.
I'm in good shape, and is usualy out for 2-3 hours walking every day.
Budget aprox Euro 200 pr day?? Or should this be increast.
I have some experience with German FKK clubs. But that is FFFG (find, fuck and forget).
Now I'm actually looking for a lady who can also be nice to have breakfast with. And it will be a slightly different starting point.
I don't want to ruin my vacation by making a deal with a jealous, controlling lady. At the same time, I want to avoid dramatic scenes when I leave the Philippines.
I have to think a little more carefully about what might be the best. But it's nice planning. If there are more tips, they are welcome. If you have contacts I can use, please send a PM.
I will keep you updated along the way.How is the planning coming along?
What are your timing in January and where?
WestCoast1
01-08-24, 14:56
Regarding prices, service, looks, and the good old days in Europe as discussed in the Manila thread previously. A browse thru the first ISG London page (first 4 posts below), and the first 2 pages of Paris, shows a hodge-podge of mongers having to find a good massage parlour, or use escorts (little else) with strict time limits. Very difficult for outsiders to navigate as there is little point-and-shoot. And prices higher that the good-old-daze (pre-covid). Germany comes out the big winner with FKK clubs. Give me SE Asia.
Although 80 quid /1/2 hour is not bad I'm a little disappointed one has to pay first.
Finished the deed about 5 minutes left and I promised to return sometime soon. She said, she is there twice a week. Damage: 80 for 30 minutes.
Seems to have upped her price as I'm sure I paid 150 ish for the hour and she's now quoting 200.
Her stated age of 40 is probably accurate. You can tell that from her face but she has a very fit and well maintained body, definitely hits the gym regularly. Pics of her body are accurate but pics of face have light filters applied, still pretty though. Wir; not at her new prices, not worth that kind of money IMHO.
60 pounds for DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. This was for 10 minutes of sex time. On a Sunday I saw Claudia (Brazilian) at 28 Peter st (upper floor). 60 pounds for LFK, DATY, CBJ, and CFS standing K9. Finished with CBJ . Olive skin, scar across her stomach probably from a tummy tuck. Also big naturals but probably the. Also very friendly but I think she was happy that we spoke in a language other than English. This was 10 min but might have run a little longer .France:
Loads of fakes and poor providers in France.
Nah. I love Paris, personally. But you need to be quite experienced to find what you're looking for . Sirioja is experienced, no doubt, but maybe he is a bit jaded with the selection here. Not me, though.
I make no promises since I have already put Paris hobbying behind me.
I gave up and prefer to drive every week end except for holidays to Germany. There, I can really see and decide. I may be too picky now for level in Paris which is my town since birth .
Roll Aides
02-10-24, 21:45
Moved to the Gen Info thread.I threw up a little in my mouth.
What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.
Member #4794
02-27-24, 12:51
A seasoned mongers view on Bangkok / thailand VS manila / AC / philippines.
I have to lead with I am biased towards the philippines.
Everything in Bangkok was more costly than what I pay in the philippines regarding sex and I am counting time and effort. The women in thailand were generally more wrinkled up and if not they were generally more expensive. The language barrier was just like it was the last time I was in Bangkok horrible. I can speak thai but needing to speak thai to get along with these girls feels synthetic and kind of ruins my time. My thai is not the best and this is all I have to rely on it to try to relate feelings with only a limited vocabulary. Sure you will see some attractive thai women but chances they will be attractive speak english AND not be a veteran of 5+ years is slim to none.
I like that in the philippines I can pick up a girl who is new to the game and get to know her on some level. I enjoy being able to relate to her and understand at least a modicum of how she ticks and her life. I find it a much more fulfilling "relationship". So in this sense Bangkok and thailand for the most part falls short for me. I was there for some time but I brought along some pussy with me and had the opportunity to partake as well but I decided not to. It just felt like I was going to a fast food joint and ordering some overpriced pussy.
I usually monger close to the lao border where the girls feel more genuine and sweet over all which I can't get enough off but the big city BKK liberal girls are not for me anymore I have grown out of it.
Bangkok does have better food BKK wins here by a land slide the food in the philippines is all trash in comparison. Tourist attractions in thailand wins hands down and accommodations are nicer and generally more affordable.
But I think the philippines beats thailand in a few key areas that mean much more to me. Such as access to creampies, deeper relationships, and due to people generally speaking english it is easier to be accepted into the Philippine community as a whole. I don't think a foreigner ever really get accepted into thai culture unless you do all of the buddhist crap like become a monk and I am just not interested in that.
While I think Thailand beats the philippines in every external way. I think the philippines beats places like thailand where you have a language barrier to contend with in an intangible internal way. Pinay Catholic girls really have spoiled me I think for right now I just prefer my catholic pinay pussy. You may disagree but this is just my opinion.
WestCoast1
02-28-24, 01:00
I threw up a little in my mouth.
What the actual hell is going on in America these days? Actually, don't even want to know.Sorry RA, just saw this. My post before was not a description of what is / was happening in America, it was a description of what one woman has been doing. There is nothing unique about high-end hookers in any country. There are enough rich wall-street type guys in NYC who think as little of paying $10,000 USD / hour as you or I do for paying for a cup of coffee at 7-11, to keep high-end girls in business.
What I will say here might bother some: The more expensive a girl is, does not necessarily mean she is more hot. Some high-end girls who are less hot often stay in the game by plying GFE / pampering experience (or alternately, she becomes a dominatrix). Many of us might say: "Why would you pay so much for that average woman when you can go to Thailand / Columbia / Moscow for a killer bod?" It is a logical question; but I think it doesn't matter why, as many wealthy fellas are just fine staying at home, taking the girls that please them (not us).
For the rest of America, there are attractive incall / outcall girls at $300-$500/ HR (strict time limit, covered, the opposite of GFE), and AMP massage parlors for happy ending. There are also strip clubs, with varying results.
I have seen a similar thing in Phils. There are fellas who travel to Phils and take an average-looking (6 or 7) FL gal for a week or two, including island-hopping (Boracay, Palawan), never sex her, and give her good coin for her time. We have tried on this board to quantify our game, but there are elements of the game that can't be quantified.
Travis McGee
02-28-24, 13:51
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?Hi Travis. Whilst my personal preference is a nice little Filipino pussy, a few girls have mentioned to me from the outset, "Not in the Butt" or similar. I don't think it's a country specific thing. I think it would be a negotiation and the more money you have in your wallet, the better chance you have. Having said that, I wouldn't advise 'surprising' a girl by 'throwing it up the back door' without her prior knowledge.
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?Just personal experience here. Every Filipina I've met says they don't want anal. I married a pinay two years ago, and she was curious about it, so we tried it and she liked it. A pinay GF before said she wanted to try it with me, but I broke things off before we did.
I may be wrong here, but I think most Filipino men are just as adventurous sexually as anyone else. From the girls who told me they had attempted or experienced anal from a Filipino BF, the experience really borders on rape. They were consenting to vaginal sex, and he suddenly tried to cram it up her ass without lube or anything else to help it not be painful. No wonder it isn't well-received.
The. There is the perception that it is dirty. Which it is if you don't prepare properly.
Geneva Guy
02-28-24, 18:46
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?I have had a pretty good experience with anal with filiipinas. First one begged me to "fuck my ass honey" so I did. Next one I talked to online about it for some time then when we met, first round deep in her pussy, second deep in her ass unloading my bals. We did a bunch of anal after that. 3rd one wanted anal but never got around to it, such a tight little pussy. I guess YMMV on this but whatever you do, lube up stick fingers in (and have her squeeze to release the sphiincter muscles) and work your way in.
GG.
Having mongered in South America, Europe, Central America, and elsewhere in Asia, I'm now contemplating taking my first trip to the Philippines. I especially enjoy anal sex and would like to know how receptive Pinays are to it in comparison with the women of other countries. Is anal easy to find there, or are the taboos against it too strong? Are there particular cities / islands where anal is more commonly offered?In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.
Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.
Locamotive
02-29-24, 00:29
Moved to the Gen Info thread.
Another article about the same woman:
https://www.businessinsider.com/escort-used-miradry-eliminate-armpit-sweating-hyperhydrosis-2023-12
It appears she can earn more than $100 k USD per month. From the article:
For Mia Lee, time is money. Lee, a 35-year-old professional escort and stripper based in New York City, has streamlined her entire life so that she can maximize time with her clients and boost her earnings. Her efficiency has helped her rake in almost $68,000 during the first two weeks of December alone, Business Insider previously reported.
I think, Teej, you are thinking transaction-ally. Which is fine, in and of itself. Would you pay $100 USD for a cup of coffee in the US, when you could pay $1 for something similar in another place? Its fine if you answer no to that question, as long as you are ok to people who would answer yes to that question. Its not reasonable to think the 'yes' folks are in coffee hell. I've met folks with more money than me who spend more on things for good reason: They just have a lot of disposable cash. Anything that is convenient, or immediately comfortable (ie, a previous ho who was kind to him and developed a report with him) gets the call, regardless of price. Why ask your assistant to get you a fresh hottie tonight (with uncertain chemistry) for a $5,000 USD 1-hour pop, when you can call Melissa yourself (who you've had several times and in addition to good sex, was good company) for a $20,000 all-nighter? From rich farmers to tech execs, some people don't really have spending limits like us regular Joe's..Agree this lady is not attractive. I've said this before, I travel allot around US and women here are sad. They are either fat, ugly or too old. If you do spot a attractive one she has a ring on her finger that would choke a horse. Paying prices listed I guess is not surprising in this pussy hell hole but that type of money you could travel. Why they don't I do not know. Like once with me two cute Asian girls in Vegas wanted $2500 each, of course I laughed. Ladies that's 5 grand which would pay my trip to Asia for a month and I would have many who look like you and better plus GFE which I'm sure you are not. With a scorn on their face they said well then you should go, this is the US not Asia. Granted the travel is a pain but in the end the benefits outweigh the travel. This place sucks for women and anyone paying those prices here I think should have their head examined.
In my experience NO. I have had only two anal experience in Philippines. Both times it was kind of long time girlfriends. They are the ones who suggested and wanted to experience it. Both did not like it much. I think it has to do with religion. Catholics believe sex is only for procreation.
Unlike Hindu Kamasutra where everything is game Christian religion is not. Sexual positions are well represented in ancient Hindu temples but not at all in Christian monuments.I read in a medical journal several years ago that only 20% of people have the nerves in the rectum that allows for anal sex to be enjoyable. In my exploits over the years I have only ran into two women who actually enjoyed it. For me one time in Thailand a lady offered to do "rimming" on me. I guess I am in the 80% because it did nothing for me.
Travis McGee
02-29-24, 01:30
I appreciate all the responses to my query about Pinay anal. Thank you all. I look forward to hearing from more guys who have had experience with asking for or being offered the backdoor experience in The Philippines. In the meantime, here are my comments on the responses I've received so far.
PhilJoy, in my experience it is indeed a matter of negotiation. I am upfront about my desires. To be sure, some women say "no way, no how," which saves us both time. Those who say "yes" or "maybe" do charge more for anal, which is fine with me. I would NEVER attempt anal by way of surprise.
Aml3740, I can certainly see how bad experiences with guys who attempted anal without cooperation and consent would turn women off to the whole project. But that's not my modus operandi. As for it being "dirty," I've had backdoor sex hundreds of times with at least 20 women. Only once or twice have gotten a little mud on my shaft, but that comes with the territory.
Geneva Guy, your response gives me hope because it's written from your firsthand perspective. I hope I meet some Filipinas who are as open-minded as the women you describe.
Sammon, I'm not convinced that refusing anal sex is a religious or specifically Catholic or Christian thing. Certainly the women in South and Central America whose backdoors I have entered had no hang-ups about it, despite being Catholic. Nor have the Dutch, German, and Greek women I've been with.
AggieDad1, I'the like to see that journal article. Maybe I've just been lucky, but I have had long-term relationships with two women both of whom were anal enthusiasts and have had casual sex with many more who enjoy it, especially when it's combined with clitoral stimulation. Perhaps it has a lot to do with how they were introduced to backdoor sex. Maybe only 20% of the women in the survey had first experiences with men who take it slow, use lots of lube, and begin with fingering or a small toy.
WestCoast1
02-29-24, 09:16
I appreciate all the responses to my query about Pinay anal. Thank you all. I look forward to hearing from more guys who have had experience with asking for or being offered the backdoor experience in The Philippines.The fellas are crazy for thinking it. Little 5' pinays?
women in the survey had first experiences with men who take it slow, use lots of lube, and begin with fingering or a small toy.I heard that's best.
I have had a pretty good experience with anal with filiipinas. First one begged me to "fuck my ass honey" so I did. Next one I talked to online about it for some time then when we met, first round deep in her pussy, second deep in her ass unloading my bals. We did a bunch of anal after that. 3rd one wanted anal but never got around to it, such a tight little pussy. I guess YMMV on this but whatever you do, lube up stick fingers in (and have her squeeze to release the sphiincter muscles) and work your way in.
GG.That's my experience too: the occasional 'I'm broke, you can fuck my ass for a tip' and that girls are a lot more comfortable on subsequent dates if they know the guy won't tear into her.
I've also written a few times here of the threesome dyke whose pussy was off limits, even for girl on girl, when she was too drunk. Then it was backdoor action only. Go figure!!
IMFITP. G.
WestCoast1
03-05-24, 06:18
I've also written a few times here of the threesome dyke whose pussy was off limits, even for girl on girl, when she was too drunk. Then it was backdoor action only. Go figure!!Hahaha. Recognize by chance?
Hahaha. Recognize by chance?Def not us: my dick is much bigger and she is a much darker Morena. 😜.
All jokes aside, I don't even know if she is still working in Sabang: It's been years since I've been back; she'd have a few years on her now and; she was well and truely on the hunt for a boyfie when I last saw her. She lived in Batangas and was only coming across to work whenever boyfie wouldn't find out.
I think it was another of those good times that's now good memories rather than something I would try to repeat.
Cheers. G.
SportMongr
03-12-24, 02:18
Hello Fellas, I've been to MNL multiple times but never toured the Islands mainly because short-time chica's were enough for me. Now I'm a bit older and looking to hook up with mainly non-pro's or kindly stated "internet. Semi"s". My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.
The Dumegete threads are dead. From many months ago the reports were it's not easy to get laid there. It's mainly a girlfriend spot. Bit disappointed to hear that because the internet dates can be very flakey but I am cool with checking out a new place I have heard was nice for years. Only problem is I don't know the terrain and don't know anyone who has been there. Google maps shows a spread out coast line from the airport to the south edge with the universities being closer to the airport. If any one has been and can point me to a nice central / walking area to book hotel I would greatly appreciate. Walking to the beach would be nice, hopefully a normal internet chica will enjoy a meal / drink with me. Maybe I get lucky. But if my booked hotel is across the street form the local LA CAFE that could screw up the romance LOL. Obviously nobody wants to post their favorite Hotel - (you can PM me:) if you're that kind. Perhaps I can grab some intel on the ground for you) - But seriously just a general area like. Nearby this intersection, or this university etc, Book 1/2 -1 mile from this bar. I'll be glad to share how this trip turns out. And I don't mind sharing phone #'s I collect either as long as I don't plan on importing her back to the states;).
I'll be in the same "unknown" spot for General Santos as well. If that is your area. A neighborhood I should be pointed to would be appreciated. Looks like there is lots if information / active threads for Cebu city.
My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.
The Dumegete threads are dead. From many months ago the reports were it's not easy to get laid there....If any one has been and can point me to a nice central / walking area to book hotel I would greatly appreciate. Walking to the beach would be nice, hopefully a normal internet chica will enjoy a meal / drink with me. Maybe I get lucky. But if my booked hotel is across the street form the local LA CAFE that could screw up the romance LOL....Do whatever you enjoy. However, only two or three days in each location may be counter productive. Especially in the provinces. It can take a day or two to find your feet and time also needs to be allowed for no show girls or those that may take a date or two before doing the deed.
You can get laid in Duma. The downside is that so many foreigners live there now that we are nothing new to the girls and don't automatically attract any attention. It has two main areas. If you want hotels, eateries and nightlife stay in the city centre, near the Boulevard If you want beaches and swimming then Dauin is only 20 minutes away. Tha LA Cafe equivalent is Why Not, the local night club with freelancers inside. There are also freelancers strolling the Boulevard at night but you will have to search for a diamond in the rough.
Sorry, I can't help with Gensan.
Enjoy. G.
WestCoast1
03-12-24, 07:16
Hello Fellas, I've been to MNL multiple times but never toured the Islands mainly because short-time chica's were enough for me. Now I'm a bit older and looking to hook up with mainly non-pro's or kindly stated "internet. Semi"s". My trip starts in MNL, then to Dumegete for 3 nights, Cebu city for 3-4 night's, Gen. Sant. City for 2 nights, back to MNL for a few.
Do whatever you enjoy. However, only two or three days in each location may be counter productive. Especially in the provinces. It can take a day or two to find your feet and time also needs to be allowed for no show girls or those that may take a date or two before doing the deed.Agree with G. A few days in each province can be fun travel, but finding poon in provinces is not easy on short notice. Girls will expect to be courted on a few dates before tossing off her kit.
A better idea might be to find a girl you knew from Manila before who wants to travel with you to those places.
SportMongr
03-13-24, 05:32
Agree with G. A few days in each province can be fun travel, but finding poon in provinces is not easy on short notice. Girls will expect to be courted on a few dates before tossing off her kit.
A better idea might be to find a girl you knew from Manila before who wants to travel with you to those places.Ouch, I should have known better. Looks like I have to rethink this travel idea. I agree with everything you guys said. It would be a nice trip, a lot of new areas and city stops. Just wouldn't be a lot of non working lady romance. I didn't fly across the world to watch local dudes curled up on the beach with hotties while I have my hand in my pants;).
Especially since most of the profiles I want to chat with are flakey even just responding on what's app. I like the idea to internet hunt in Manila see if there is anything worthy of flying out with. I'll keep you all posted if I learn something new or this turns out well.
Much appreciated.
JonesLover
03-18-24, 06:48
Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do.
I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week.
In your opinion is Subic good for it?
I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience.
I need to ask 2 questions:
1) What better area for me to rent an apartment close to the action in Subic?
2) If a girl stays with me for one whole week, when do I have to pay her around?
But above all, is Subic good for me? I don't like to spend a fortune.
Thank you very much!!
I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.
Transporter
03-19-24, 02:32
Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do. I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week. In your opinion is Subic good for it? I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience. I need to ask 2 questions: 1) What better area for me to rent an apartment close to the action in Subic? 2) If a girl stays with me for one whole week, when do I have to pay her around? But above all, is Subic good for me? I don't like to spend a fortune. Thank you very much!!Is it subic or olongapo (barrio baretto) that you are contemplating?
Houston Player
03-19-24, 04:01
I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.I'm not sure exactly what you're asking but she should use her Philippines passport to leave and reenter the Philippines, and use her USA passport to enter the USA and leave the USA.
WestCoast1
03-19-24, 06:22
I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.
I'm not sure exactly what you're asking but she should use her Philippines passport to leave and reenter the Philippines, and use her USA passport to enter the USA and leave the USA.Also not sure. Did she try walking into a local BI office to ask? Alternately email:
xinfo@immigration.gov.ph
immigPH@immigration.gov.ph
And website contact:
https://immigration.gov.ph/contacts/
JonesLover
03-19-24, 12:20
Is it subic or olongapo (barrio baretto) that you are contemplating?I don't know anything about Subic or Olongapo.
Wicked Roger
03-19-24, 14:28
I have a new friend who's deceased father, a USA citizen had filed appropriate papers and obtained her USA citizenship and a passport. She is 19 year old with dual citizenship that has always lived in the Philippines.
Her question is can she leave the Philippines to the USA using her USA passport without Philippines questioning her and offloading her? Does she have to show both passports upon exiting?
Her biggest fear is that she would be offloaded and losing the money spent for her plane ticket.
I don't think there would be a problem for her entering the USA.
Please answers from actual experiences.My 2 cents DG.
She can't use the USA passport and departure as she has never entered the country on it, so use the Philippine one.
But show the USA one at the same time as proof she a USA citizen and is going there.
I know a pinay with 2 passports and she uses the Philippine one to enter while showing her international passport (western country) at the same time. No issues ever.
On departure does same thing and then uses the international passport on her arrival in the country where she now lives.
Westie has a good idea also and this pinay did that as well just to double check as some immigration officers can be 'difficult'.
PM if you want to chat more DG.
Hi mates,
I would have liked to go to Angeles City, but I'm changing my mind due to the cost of a girl. Now I'll tell you what I would like to do.
I'm an old European but good looking. I'd like to rent an apartment for 2 weeks or more days and to stay with each girl around one week.
In your opinion is Subic good for it?
I don't like going to bars because I don't drink, but I am aware that I have to go to bars to meet girls. Hehehe I would like to meet a girl and take her at home and to get a girlfriend experience.
I need to ask 2 questions:Hi JL,
On my very first trip to the Philippines about 20 years ago I stayed in the Subic Freeport Zone and although I was disappointed by the beach scene (I naively expected back then that anything by the water to be paradise in the Philippines) it was easy to score without visiting the bars. All you had to do was ask a random target on the street or the hotel guard if they knew where I could meet a pretty girl and offer them a tip.
Keep in mind this was way before there was so much info out there on the internet, and I had no idea there was action a few miles along the road. Specifically on the Subic region, maybe some of the other guys can offer you some better advice as I now normally travel to Sabang where I know some locals and am always sorted without having to pay bar fines. I then try and find a nice island somewhere to get over it and find a really decent beach location on Bantayan or similar.
It doesn't matter where I've travelled, you can avoid the bars just by befriending the hotel guard or a local and asking the question. I even took a 200 peso taxi ride one day just for the purpose of asking the driver if he knew a pretty girl that would like to stay with me for a few days. (Almost every taxi I've got into, the driver has always asked if I was married or had a Filipina wife or girlfriend) . Within two hours I was set. Obviously she was related and the family benefitted financially from my time spent with her. I think I fed her and got everything else in addition for about 2000 pesos per day.
Personally, I don't have time to do the dating sites to line something up in advance with the chance nothing will eventuate. For me it's a huge waste of time I don't have to spare.
I also make a habit now of getting the girls to pop their WhatsApp details in my phone (I don't use this app for anything else, but all the Filipina's use it) and that way I've got girls lined up for my next visit.
Hope some of this helps.
Phil.
Also not sure. Did she try walking into a local BI office to ask? Alternately email:
xinfo@immigration.gov.ph
immigPH@immigration.gov.ph
And website contact:
https://immigration.gov.ph/contacts/Thank you for the information.
My 2 cents DG.
She can't use the USA passport and departure as she has never entered the country on it, so use the Philippine one.
But show the USA one at the same time as proof she a USA citizen and is going there.
I know a pinay with 2 passports and she uses the Philippine one to enter while showing her international passport (western country) at the same time. No issues ever.
On departure does same thing and then uses the international passport on her arrival in the country where she now lives.
Westie has a good idea also and this pinay did that as well just to double check as some immigration officers can be 'difficult'.
PM if you want to chat more DG.WR your 2 cents is quite valuable. Thanks for the input.
I will advise her to be prepared and give herself plenty of time for BI interrogation. And to also check out the websites Westies provided.
Econo Tech
03-20-24, 13:32
Been silent for a while.
Anchored in Northern Ph, and lots in Facebook though prices swing from 2 K for 2 to 5 K for 1. Depends on their desperation level I guess.
No pics this time.
WestCoast1
03-25-24, 10:48
PSA: CP announces their annual summer holiday fest. Cheap seats when purchased before March 31, for travel between April 1 and Sept. 30 (6 travel period).
Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.
Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.Research Alona / Bohol, White Beach / Sabang and Subic to find which suits you best.
All take a while to get to so I wouldn't be cramming all three into 7 days if you want a relaxing time.
Enjoy. G.
P.S. If you have game and / or want to try your luck with regular tourists, lots of white and brown girls in El Nido / Puerto Princesa.
Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.
Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.
KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.
Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.
Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.
Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.
Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.
Enough rambling for now.
Let me tell you Age and grumpiness is catching up with me. Do not tolerate any kind of games which I used to play with girls. Do not have the patience anymore. One wrong move on their part I block them. I know this is not the right way of mongering but having had many pretty girls and best sex all over the world I am happy to be myself spending time alone. Gone are the days I will not sleep alone on my travels. Having let out steam I enjoyed my trip.
Ho Chi Minh City is fantastic and cheap. Lots of sightseeing and cheap food and massages. You can get a HJ in most places. Did not hang around in too many bars. Seafood is fresh and excellent. Cheap as well. There are many pretty girls but high end. There are pimps who have van full of pretty girls who try to entice you. But although girls are pretty asking price for LT is $400 US. Declined. Met an ugly Korean gurl in my tour group who wanted to have dinner with me. She said she works in a Korean company and took my your on Sunday. I took her WhatsApp number but did not call. Whole day of Meh Kong delta tour wore me out. Got a nice 2 hour nassage instead.
KL is a nice city with lots of tourists. Was looking for an Indian provider but could not find. Asked an Indian and he said online only. KLCC is neat clean and modern. There are plenty of Thai massage places and got a HJ.
Singapore has become much more modern since the last time I visited. Public transit is the best. Had fun with a domestic whole day which was a highlight of the trip. Liked the casino and free entry to foreigners. Just take your passport and show the e mail you got from immigration. Locals have to pay yearly 3000 Singapore dollars to enter. Not fair I thought. Hawker places did not entice me that much about food. Ho Chi Minh is best.
Cebu has not changed much. My plan to have few online girls backfired. I would not tolerate sending money for transportation and service ST or outrageous demands. Like I said I have no patience anymore. Had to fall back on my previous providers. They are older but still good and clean.
Manila has become more chaotic with traffic. They are re remodeling my favorite hotel new world. Had excellent middle eastern food near LA cafe. Popped in there for a beer but could not stand cigarette smoke. There were some lookers but my previous contact girl was staying with me.
Next trip is to San Jose CR and Jaco after a long time visit.
Enough rambling for now.Do you if any of those massage shops there do BJ? I lived in Cambodia for 6 months and thinking about moving back and I will hit up Ho Chi Minh.
Social media keeps giving me there great deals from travel agents to fly to Manila eg £399 ex London with Malaysia Airlines. These ads get hundreds of replies: how much ex Frankfurt, Paris etc and the answer is always to call the travel agent. Doing skyscanner or google searches, Malaysia Airways, to take this example, offer prices nowhere near that level but the agents get lots of enquiries. Due in part to thee being a large Pinay ex pat community, many of whom would like to holiday at home at a reasonable price.
I knew a Viet guy who had cheap prices to Hanoi and HCM the Viets would avail of but these agents seem a right scam. Air China seems to be the cheapest (Saudi is problematic because of connections). Are these ads the old case of if it is too good to be true it is a scam or am I too cynical? Anyone got any tips on cheap prices?
Recommended destination for 7-10 days?
I'm living in Thailand and have 7-10 days for a vacation left. What would be your recommended destination (s) based on the following criteria:
O Relaxed beach destination.
O Cute girls available for GFE.
O Relatively safe and developed infrastructure (yes yes, I know it's the Phils).
O Not too much traveling max 2-3 destinations.Hi Amnesia,
From my experience Bantayan in Cebu has been the most relaxed beach destination but you may have to line up a girl in Cebu City first.
It also takes some effort to get there but it's well worth it.
Boracay is very touristy and although being quite nice, I think it doesn't live up to the hype. Having said that, I managed to find some really nice freelancers there for the GFE.
Sabang has a good little scene happening but you have to walk around to the quieter Laguna Beach to actually see a beach.
It's more geared to the bar scene as opposed to the GFE for a week, but once you have some contact with the locals it works out well.
The good thing is it's relatively easy to get to from Manila with a two. Three hour bus / road trip and then a fastcraft trip from the port at Batangas.
Never had problems with safety in any of these places.
Phil.
WestCoast1
04-14-24, 06:01
Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.
Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.
First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.
S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).
Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.
http://www.tourism.gov.ph/files/2024/tourism_demand/03/03-08/Arrivals/2023%20-%20Visitor%20Arrivals%20by%20Country%20of%20Residence%20and%20Monthly%20Ranking%20(revised)%20 (2%20 files%20 merged) Pdf.
www.tourism.gov.ph
Well, more than 24 hours with no posts in the Phils threads. Radio silence.
Moving on (or looking back). From the Phils Tourism Dept website.
First pic. Total foreign Immigration numbers for last year, 5. 4 million inbounds. Subtracting 400,000 OFW, that leaves 5 million foreigners.
S Koreans (1), USA (2), Aust (4), China (5), Great Britain (8).
Second pic. Total inbound in the first quarter of this year: 1,400,000. Possibly need to subract OFW, then extrapolate for the year. About the same pace as last year. Still down from the 8-9 million in 2019.
The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.
WestCoast1
04-14-24, 06:47
The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).
This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.
An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40034268
I did a comparison about a year ago, between Thailand and Phils each recuperating from Covid with tourist numbers. I think Thailand's pre-covid tourist count was 25-30 million around 2019. After their covid re-start they were at about half that, and now back up to their pre-covid numbers of 27 million last year (picture).
This is in contrast to Phils, which had about 5 million in 2022 (down from about 9 million pre-covid), and little or no change last year.
An interesting comparison between current Phils and Thai numbers: Phils #1 inbounds are Koreans (by far). Checking the article (pic), Thailand visitors are Malaysian, Chinese, Singaporean, and Indian (Koreans further down the list). Thailand tourism has recuperated well without much Korean help; Philippines is very dependent on it. What makes Phils more desirable than Thailand to Koreans?
https://www.nationthailand.com/thailand/tourism/40034268One thing is Thailand has eased some visa requirements to get tourists back and have been promoting tourism from surrounding countries. Also Thailand was quicker to drop covid rules than the Phills. I may have missed it but have not seen much effort from the Phills into promotion.
AussieGaigin
04-14-24, 07:32
Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.
Anyone who frequents Facebook would be aware of the proliferation of short video clip "reels". Maybe because I actually watched some, I now get inundated by views of walking streets in BKK and Pattaya, etc; by comparison there are very few from Phils. The LBs aside, the girl quality in Thailand seems much better than the Phils. If I was planning on mongering, I know where I'd prefer to be going.FB Protip #1: Don't ask me how I know but never every lok at anything related to Taylor Swift. You will never escape the recommendations etc again. 😃.
Its been said many times that any logical assessment has LOS beating PI on looks, numbers, accommodation, food etc. The list goes on. Really the only compensation is English, BBFS and GFE. I don't think it's an exaggeration to say that most PI visitors come here due to nostalgia or familiarity rather than a logical assessment of alternatives. Many new guys are now choosing LOS, PHN or even the new options, VND, Jakarta etc.
Of course many old hands are sticking with PH but moving away from the traditional MNL, AC, CEB and finding the joys of the provinces or areas less travelled.
Enjoy. G.
Expat American
04-14-24, 18:02
The info is interesting, I would hazard a guess that large numbers of guys from western countries are going just to meet girls. There are lots of flights coming in from Korea but I'm seeing lots of young mixed groups, families, couples, it seems like a holiday destination. The western guys do jump out here for obvious reasons but it's those guys I'm seeing walking around the malls with girls not older Koreans. I'm not in AC or manila.Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.
Most Asians (Koreans included) treat prostitutes like, well, prostitutes. They don't take them to malls and walk hand in hand with them. They don't make them pretend girlfriends. They pay them for the night, take them to their rooms, fuck them and send them back. Not 100% of course but by and large that's the model. Westerners like the illusion (delusion?) of romance with the bar girls. Not judging, I've been guilty of it too. Though more recently I am more and more a fan of the point click fuck pay leave protocol. Can't remember the last time I had a girl stay overnight. ID much rather sleep alone and well.I used to be pay and fuck guy. Its probably because of my age that I have started liking company if I find a girl whom I click (and if I know I may try her a few times). Walking around, having coffee or lunch helps me relax since I know I can start my show whenever I want as opposed to being time bounded. Sometimes I get high in mornings like 6 or 8 AM or at times around 2 PM. At 1 AM, my junior would be sleepy and may need more time.
WestCoast1
04-16-24, 00:14
Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.
Sugar babby confessions:
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/21-sugar-baby-confessions-thatll-091602556.html
My fav:
"I've been a sugar baby for close to five years. I met my first sugar daddy on Tinder, and we've been happily together ever since. We've gone on trips to South America and Europe, eaten at luxury / Michelin-starred restaurants, and stayed at luxury hotels / spa resorts. I've received designer bags (mostly Gucci and Chanel), had my rent paid, received a monthly allowance, and been given many tech gifts (gaming desktop, gaming monitor, printer for university, iPad Pro (and) pen, Apple watch, iPhones for my sister and I, Nintendo Switch, laptops for my sister and I, etc.). For one of my birthday presents, I received liposuction surgery, and he paid the full $8,000 amount! I actually got the iPad Pro and pen from another sugar daddy on our second date, which blew my mind quite honestly. ".
Second caveat: You might have to Lipo your SB.
Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.
Caveat: This is not necessarily regarding Phils, but its good discussion of the SB industry, which has been mentioned here before.
Sugar babby confessions:
Third caveat: Giving your SB expensive gifts / services might make her (and you) think that you're not a John and she's not a hoar. So ya, try that.Some guys want company, plenty of reports here about guts taking girls on trips which I understand is slightly different. But SDs by definition are older guys.
But there's a new phenomenon with the digital nomads, earning western money living in Phils. Let's call them sugar mads for now. These young guys walk around the malls with pyt's buying things for them. These guys possibly have more disposable income than retirees. So maybe this type of relationship will eventually replace the SDs.
You've heard all of the horror stories of Filipinas (or any Asian nationality) getting one over on the old foreigner in love. Well here's another. I chatted this girl a few years ago, never went anywhere but I'd still see her profile on facebook and tiktok so we'd chat every so often. After a lengthy absense on my part I chat her and find out she's got engaged online. Hasn't met him in many many months but will 'stay loyal to him'. Is that a new house in your tiktok I wonder?. Years go by and finally this Filipina has this old guy in her tiktoks and on facebook. Well good for them I'm thinking, she's got a great looking body and he's getting on in his years so maybe they are happy.
Then I see this on my facebook "can we talk? I thought it was a salesman, been getting spammed with friend requests. Until I realized it was the face of the girl with the guy. So I replied sure we can chat. And then the horror stories comes out. He built her a house, ran out of money while here and she got upset and broke things off. Family dumped him at the airport without a word being said, luggage kicked to the pavement. But he's still using those awful words you hate to hear like "she's a good girl", " we are getting married in 3 months", "I really love her". But the reality hasn't set in yet for him. She's gone "until he comes back with more money". How much money has he spent so far you ask? He even said 'she'd give me back the house if I asked'. Still in denial. Anyone want to take a guess? I'll make it mulitple choice.
A. 600 k pesos.
Be. 2 million pesos.
See. 6 million pesos.
The. 12 million pesos.
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