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Bilbo Baggins
11-13-07, 03:38
I will be getting married next year in Phils. My gf says I need a paper of some sort proving I am not married. She says I have to get it at the Canadian embassy in Manila. A co-worker told me this is wrong, only residents of Phils have to get this paper in Phils. Can I get the paper in Canada? I really don't want to go to Manila alone. Also someone said it can take hours to make it thru the line up. Others have said if you have a passport you can go right to the front of the line. Sounds like a cash grab if it's true. Should just be able to get this paper in Canada.
Here is the Philippine Govt website with all the requirements for marriage
http://www.gov.ph/faqs/marriage.asp
Short answer
Philippine law requires a citizen or subject of a foreign country to obtain a Certificate of Legal Capacity to Contract Marriage. It is issued by the diplomatic or consular offices of his or her country, prior to the issuance of a marriage license in the Philippines. This serves as a clearance or permit from the consul as an actual proof of the subject’s civil status and his/her eligibility for marriage.
There is a consulate office in Cebu
45 - L Andres Abellana Street
Cebu City 6000
Tel. (032) 256-3320; 254-4749
Fax (032) 255-3068
Email Canada-Consulate-Cebu@Mozcom.com
Hope this helps
Bilbo Baggins
11-13-07, 03:51
What city would you recommend in the PI for the best GFE experience? Davao? An island I always swore I would never go to. Been to the PI several times over the last 20 years, but not in the last 6.
I'm guessing here, I don't think it's the city as much as the individual girl who could be found anywhere. You don't specify if you are asking about p4p girls or normal girls.
Take the ribbing and you'll probably get all the help you need and some more. Just be clear with your questions.
I was the one with the "smart a" comment, which was based on your misuse of English implying that Davao was an island. Not sure why you quote and diss GE since he was just trying to clarify things. Furthermore, a question about Davao is probably best suited for the Davao thread rather than General Info.
What truly amazes me is that someone would use his 4th post to order GE and myself to "tone it down". I can't speak for GE, but have no plan to give you the time of day. Of course if you just went back and read my 900+ posts or GE's 1000+ posts you'll probably find the answer anyway.
Okay everyone, listen to expert Peter...there are upset Muslims on the island of Mindanao! Run for your lives!
X Man
"It is the largest city on the island of Mindanao. "
REALLY? Boy the hobby has you guys pretty jaded. Davao doesn't really concern me but the island does (I have a brother-in-law living in Davao). Guess you "experts" don't know there are some upset Muslims on this island.
Can you tone down the smart a comments and answer the relevant question I asked, please.
Minnesota Peter
11-13-07, 16:02
I'm guessing here, I don't think it's the city as much as the individual girl who could be found anywhere. You don't specify if you are asking about p4p girls or normal girls.
Take the ribbing and you'll probably get all the help you need and some more. Just be clear with your questions.Thanks for the reply Bilbo:
Sorry... was asking about P4P. Understand, that each lady has her own preferences and exceptions, but what is the "norm" for the area was the just of my question.
And, you are right should have just let it go, not worth the reply. Besides sarcasm is tough in these forums.
Bilbo Baggins
11-14-07, 08:49
Sorry... was asking about P4P. what is the "norm" for the area was the jist of my question.
And, you are right should have just let it go, not worth the reply. Besides sarcasm is tough in these forums.
I kinda like X Man's sarcasm he doesn't put up with nonsense, I'm rather glad he hasn't directed it to me. No offense I was laughing when I read your reply to him and GE it was sorta like watching a man walking through quicksand. You see GoodEnough and X Man are probably the two best people to answer your question so it doesn't pay to alienate them there are others, not as good perhaps, but they are not posting or answering your question are they?
It is still not clear to me if you are asking about the Island of Mindanao and it's cities or the whole of the PI because you did ask? "What city would you recommend in the PI for the best GFE experience?" And saying the "island of Davao" and "been to the PI several times " did raise red flags in my mind because a frequent traveler would know Davao was not an Island and so you did unintentionally open yourself up for a bit of sport.
I read recently that the Mayor of Cagayan De Oro has cracked down on prostitution so that would leave Davao as the best city in Mindanao for what you want of course my information is based on what GoodEnough has said in the past. He is the resident expert on Davao and Mindanao seeing he lives there and travels around the island, Muslim parts included. I have never been to Mindanao all my knowledge is second hand. I am interested in the place as I'm going there next year.
If you meant the whole of PI then I would say Angeles City by reputation, I went there once and didn't like it so don't ask my opinion, then Manila, then Cebu City, then Davao City. X Man would know for sure if he cares to make time for you.
I wouldn't get too put off by X Man even when he is dissing you and says "he wouldn't give you the time of day," he's still giving you good advice by advising you to post your question on the Davao forum where you are more likely to get a response from Davao travelers and to read through their posts where you will probably find your answers, he could have said nothing. Read and post in the Dragonslayers Forum on Davao he has good info too.
GoodEnough
11-14-07, 13:01
Bilbao, thanks for the kind words. While it's true that the Mayor of CDO has constrained the sex bars a bit, the only visible consequence is that the girls no longer get naked on stage, but strip to bras and panties. Other than that (which does diminish the enjoyment of watching somewhat), the ease of picking up women hasn't changed a bit, nor have the prices, nor has the selection narrowed at all. So, in relation to the question of GFE, nothing in CDO has changed. The girls are still plentiful. They're still beautiful. They're still available.
For my money, Gion is still the best place to for number and variety. However, I have a good friend who went to Gion last week and he left quickly because he said the mamasan kept trying to pressure him into buying drinks. That's not been my experience, but it's been a little while since I've been there. I will be in CDO during the last week of the month and I'll update the information as appropriate then.
In Davao, nothing much ever changes. It's easier here than in CDO to meet "normal" women if only because there are so many more venues here than in Cagayan de Oro and so many women who want to meet and establish relationships with foreign men. I was in SM mall over the week end with my wife, and I still got innumerable smiles that could have been followed up. I've never been to Angeles and there are lots of other places in the country to which I've never been, but Davao remains the best place I've ever seen to meet non-pro ladies.
GE
Bilbao, thanks for the kind words. While it's true that the Mayor of CDO has constrained the sex bars a bit, the only visible consequence is that the girls no longer get naked on stage, but strip to bras and panties. Other than that (which does diminish the enjoyment of watching somewhat), the ease of picking up women hasn't changed a bit, nor have the prices, nor has the selection narrowed at all. So, in relation to the question of GFE, nothing in CDO has changed. The girls are still plentiful. They're still beautiful. They're still available.
For my money, Gion is still the best place to for number and variety. However, I have a good friend who went to Gion last week and he left quickly because he said the mamasan kept trying to pressure him into buying drinks. That's not been my experience, but it's been a little while since I've been there. I will be in CDO during the last week of the month and I'll update the information as appropriate then.
In Davao, nothing much ever changes. It's easier here than in CDO to meet "normal" women if only because there are so many more venues here than in Cagayan de Oro and so many women who want to meet and establish relationships with foreign men. I was in SM mall over the week end with my wife, and I still got innumerable smiles that could have been followed up. I've never been to Angeles and there are lots of other places in the country to which I've never been, but Davao remains the best place I've ever seen to meet non-pro ladies.
GE
I am not challenging you since you are like a scientific expert on Philippines and its ladies. I just wanted to add man it’s not hard to meet regular girls in PI period I don’t care where you are if you are a foreigner. That’s just my experience. Unless you venture into the Islamic dominated areas. When I was there I never been so flirted with in my life. I mean normal ladies working in the hotels, store clerks, college students it was utterly ridiculous.
Minnesota Peter
11-14-07, 19:02
Thanks for the replies.
The intent of my original question was to ask about the best city/area in the PI for a P4P GFE. That is why I posted it in the general area. The question was poorly worded and I apologize for that.
I agree, walking around SM and being friendly gets lots of smiles and giggles from the regular girls. I just do not have the heart, at the present, to reestablish a real relationship yet, and they are so sweet, can't play the player. It is an ego boast though. LOL.
Most of my time has been spent in the smaller cities of the Visayas.
Anyways, keep up the good work and info. Guess, I'm just gonna have to go back and experience it for myself again.
Peace
Cheap Meat
11-16-07, 05:18
I've mongered in Thailand and Cambodia. Meat is pretty cheap there. Accomodation is especially cheap. How much should I bring to monger in the Philippines (angeles city & manilla), specifically, mongering for bargirls and freelancers? I spent about $120/day in Pattaya. How much money will get me a good time and a good lady for a low price? Thanks.
I've mongered in Thailand and Cambodia. Meat is pretty cheap there. Accomodation is especially cheap. How much should I bring to monger in the Philippines (angeles city & manilla), specifically, mongering for bargirls and freelancers? I spent about $120/day in Pattaya. How much money will get me a good time and a good lady for a low price? Thanks.I spend $100 a day in AC + Hotel. In AC a good hotel can be had for around $30, but some pay way more (I don't know why). Overnight with a girl in AC is 1000-1500P. Tip up to you, but if girl does as agreed I give 500P. LA cafe in Manilia all nights are 2000-2500, some pay more, don't need too. No tip for the cafe girls as they get it all. In AC no need to do freelancers, in fact I say stay away from them (set-up or other problems). LA cafe is all freelancers in Manilia. Other clubs in Manilia are over priced.
TrickyRick
11-17-07, 19:48
Was in La Cafe a week ago tops I paid was 1500 pesos. Some 1000 pesos older ones some long time some short time. Be cool lots of gals there dosnt like your price then dosnt really like u. U can always ask another, girls in the mall make take home 300 pesos tops a day gals working in those other stores 100 pesos a day I know I couldn't believe it either so 1500 pesos for screwing with a white foreinger is great for them hey have you seen there ugly men they get it for free?
I spend $100 a day in AC + Hotel. Overnight with a girl in AC is 1000-1500P. Tip up to you, but if girl does as agreed I give 500P.
Very similar to my expenses. Roughly 4-5k per day.
Next trip 28 days and counting! :D
Cheers!
I wanted to book a flight originally from newark nj to Clark ( AC ) but the fare
was $2350. If I book the fllight from newark to Manila the cost is $1527.
How long will it take me to fly from manila to clark and what airline should I arrange it with ? the earliest I would land in manila is around 10pm
thanks to anyone that can help
I recommend you stay the night in Manila and then get a ride to AC the next day as it's less than a two hours by car. There is a bus service that has been mentioned in this thread a few times. You could also arrange a ride to AC the night of your arrival.
X
I wanted to book a flight originally from newark nj to Clark ( AC ) but the fare
was $2350. If I book the fllight from newark to Manila the cost is $1527.
How long will it take me to fly from manila to clark and what airline should I arrange it with ? the earliest I would land in manila is around 10pm
thanks to anyone that can help
Key Master
11-25-07, 07:01
I wanted to book a flight originally from newark nj to Clark ( AC ) but the fare
was $2350. If I book the fllight from newark to Manila the cost is $1527.
How long will it take me to fly from manila to clark and what airline should I arrange it with ? the earliest I would land in manila is around 10pm
thanks to anyone that can help
You'll most likely go by 4 wheel vehicle. You can hire a cab to take you for like 2500 pesos or get picked up by one of the services in AC for the same amount. Or as mentioned earlier maybe just stay in Manila one night and go to LA Cafe and EDSA and Makati or something. There are some bus services like Fly the Bus which will take you to your hotel in AC for 500 pesos that you can get at Swagman Hotel in Manila. There should be info somewhere about times in the PI section.
Hey, does anybody has an experince about finding MILFs in Manila and Cebu?
For me, a MILF would be a 40+ filipina.
I was just wondering if anyone had recently flown from Hong Kong to Manila or Clark Airbase had any luck in finding a cheap airline or travel agency to book an online ticket from?
I just checked Cathay's online site and the cheapest ticket they were offering was $287 return.
Thanks in advance.
Fast Eddie 48
12-18-07, 07:05
I was just wondering if anyone had recently flown from Hong Kong to Manila or Clark Airbase had any luck in finding a cheap airline or travel agency to book an online ticket from?BEES11
If you go to Macau take the ferry from Hong kong Tiger air have daily flight to Clark very cheap if you book online 3 week ahead is own by singapore airline use old plane ,I took it last yr it was ok flight but they will charge if you have alot of luggage so travel light .
Fast eddie 48
Cheapest flights from Hong Kong to Manila are usually on Philippine Air. Used to be about U.S. $200 round trip but prices seem to have gone up quite a bit lately I guess due to oil prices. The flight is under 2 hours & service is usually ok. Of course, after arriving in Manila, you have to either take a bus or rent or car to Angeles. I don't know if there's a cheaper way to go direct to Clark.
I was just wondering if anyone had recently flown from Hong Kong to Manila or Clark Airbase had any luck in finding a cheap airline or travel agency to book an online ticket from?
I just checked Cathay's online site and the cheapest ticket they were offering was $287 return.
Thanks in advance.
Hello, Asia newbie here, looking for website(s) to chat with the girls and/or see pictures of regular girls - similar to cybercupido or badoo for latin america. Thanks in advance.
PM me if you need info on Colombia.
Bilbo Baggins
12-24-07, 02:35
Hello, Asia newbie here, looking for website(s) to chat with the girls and/or see pictures of regular girls - similar to cybercupido or badoo for latin america. Thanks in advance.
PM me if you need info on Colombia.Sean try these two watch out for scammers
http://www.filipinaheart.com/ and http://www.blossoms.com/
also check out the forum "Chat Rooms and Pen Pals"
BB
Cheapest flights from Hong Kong to Manila are usually on Philippine Air.
Actually, Cebu Pacific consistantly has the cheapest fares although PAL tries to match CP. It all depends on when you want to fly and how far in advance you by your ticket. It is very easy to buy a ticket on Cebu Pacific's website. Also cheaper if you buy your ticket on a thursday as the airlines adjust their fares.
The only advantage I can see by flying PAL is that they have their own spacious terminal in Manila. Otherwise, I would never recommend anybody fly them. Hong Kong Airways used to fly into Clark a few times a week but that route has been discontinued.
Beijing Lover
12-24-07, 03:11
To get from Hong Kong to Clark you can go to Macau and get on the daily Tiger Airways flight direct to Angeles.
Round trip costs about 800 hkd if you buy it online at least 2 months in advance.
Beijing Lover
Cheapest flights from Hong Kong to Manila are usually on Philippine Air. Used to be about U.S. $200 round trip but prices seem to have gone up quite a bit lately I guess due to oil prices. The flight is under 2 hours & service is usually ok. Of course, after arriving in Manila, you have to either take a bus or rent or car to Angeles. I don't know if there's a cheaper way to go direct to Clark.
last night me and the main squeeze hit up makati and danced the night away in one of greenbelt’s nice new clubs. for guys looking for some non mongering fun it is some real eye candy in this place. top of line filipinas with their own dough. worth a check out for those that don’t know. i got a little dough now but i still don’t feel comfortable around the yups. for some of you might be your speed.
Hawaiiflyo
01-05-08, 09:33
I hope I am posting in the right area. I am planning my first trip to Manilla this year and need some guidance. I am stationed in Okinawa and I frequent the RLDs (Yoshihara & Maehara) rather frequently. I am not too fond of the prices of the soapies in Oki (Tsuji District). I also do not go to jack shacks because the prices are basically the same as the RLDs. I've only used an ES once and I thought it was good but rather high. I tend to stay away from the philipina "juicy girls" over here also because of the love motel fees..but I have messed around with philipinas over here. So I guess I am looking for FS and/or BBBJs in RLDs for a reasonable price. I have thought about trying ES again because I will be staying in a hotel, but I would rather go to the services. I've been reading around the Phillipines forums and you guys have posted a wealth of information..I still feel I need some guidance, so I don't get ripped off. Also the Phillipines is freakin' huge compared to what's available in Okinawa. I am all ears for suggestions, where to stay, etc. (I haven't booked tickets, hotel accommodations). I've also heard from a couple of friends about the scams and rip-offs (like the cabbies over-charging) which the Okinawans never do. One friend even told me about this kid that tried to pick pocket him and failed. Any advice you guys give would be great.
SexWithSmile
01-05-08, 12:51
Many visitors to the Philippines have some plans about taking some local girl for vacation. Fantasies run high: enjoying a quiet retreat on a lost island somewhere or going to party with some friends in Borocay, having some candle-lit romantic dinners on the beach, then wild nights with the local girl who is so happy to enjoy this simple life.
I had personally a good similar experience, taking an AC girl to a remote island (Sangat) which is a divers paradise. I also witnessed a disaster at that same island with another couple. This is why I would like to share my experience, of what is IMHO what to do and not to do.
The disastrous couple was evident. Sangat is a beautiful, natural but simple resort, no AirCo, no TV, no disco. The girl was clearly an hardcore city girl, and she had not been informed about the lack of island facilities before boarding the plane. The guy (a Canadian) was with another Western couple who had arranged that perfect blind date. They were always speaking together about intellectual matters which were of no interest for the girl. They wanted to take her on hiking, but she had only flip-flops. The guy was nice, but lacked any sense of seduction. At the end everyone got angry, the Western couple gave $ 100 to the girl to leave, without preoccupying that all flights were fully booked at those dates, so the girl kept coming back asking for her additional travel costs until a flight was available. I must add that those guys did not want to speak to the girl, but went through the hotel Management, involving and pissing off everyone.
My own experience was excellent – so here are the rules for helping you to enjoy it:. I got my girl from the Carrousel at Angeles City: Php 1, 350 barfine, and a tip for the girl (who is so sweet she even does not want it.); payable in advance, but the Mama-sang was very cooperative (no over-charging for credit cards, allows the girl to stay longer.).
- I checked the girl for 3 nights before taking her for that one week stay on my island – she is cool, beginner on that job, sweet, not a pretentious one; you don’t need a perfect model for going on vacation, but someone who is adaptable.
- I clearly informed her about the island, no airco, no TV; I told her what to take (no city clothes), made sure that she was adequately dressed for the (wet) boat transfers.
- No, you won’t be able to have any intellectual conversation with such girl; diners are a quiet meeting; she was quite shy, especially with foreigners. So it requires some effort from your part: a lot of cuddling, make sure you give her enough attention even when all what you want to do is having a long political chat with another guy.
- And most important: medical check-up:
Indeed, the romantic atmosphere will bring you to some bare-back abandon, even if, like me, you are very strict with condoms. I had taken her for a preliminary AIDS test (hoping it’s not a scam), and a regular hygiene test, but be prepared: traces of Herpes are found on all girls, therefore. Welcome to the club. I also made sure about her contraception method (although in my own perspective, I am programmed to always ejaculate outside a pussy).
The rewards were great, a very good GFE, she did not complain at all, and we had great sex except the 3 days of course that she had her unexpected periods. We tried anal, but she is too tight and did not want to hurt her. I gave her her first oral sex, and nothing is more exciting than hearing her spontaneous moans as she has that first new experience.
Happy mongering, I hope some of those recommendations will help to avoid bad experiences as I have witnessed.
Any advice you guys give would be great.The only advice that I can give you is to read the Philippine forum. I made my first trip to the PI three years ago and I read and re-read almost every post on here and I learned a lot.
Have fun!
Robb
Great post SWS,
Can you elaborate on your dealings with the bar? Did you pay that bar fine per day you were with the girl?
Carasoul? Were you humping my sweet little Jocelyn? That girl wore me out in two days, I don't think I could spend a week with her!
As for the other couple you described, was she also a bar girl? You seem to blame the guy for everything, but I have to think something else was going on there.... Nevertheless, SWS makes a very good point - always make sure the chemistry is right before you start making reservations.
I hope you can give more info about Sangat (Transportation, hotel, beaches, pics, etc) on the "other areas" thread. That is on Palawan, right?
http://www.starfish.ch/dive/Sangat.html
And my own tip: If you are spending time with a lady (bar girl or not) give her the day's spending money and let her hassle with expenses (taxis, tips, bargaining, etc.). This makes things more stress free for me, and I suppose gives her the illusion that you are giving her money.
X Man
Many visitors to the Philippines have some plans about taking some local girl for vacation. Fantasies run high: enjoying a quiet retreat on a lost island somewhere or going to party with some friends in Borocay, having some candle-lit romantic dinners on the beach, then wild nights with the local girl who is so happy to enjoy this simple life.
I had personally a good similar experience, taking an AC girl to a remote island (Sangat) which is a divers paradise. I also witnessed a disaster at that same island with another couple. This is why I would like to share my experience, of what is IMHO what to do and not to do.
The disastrous couple was evident. Sangat is a beautiful, natural but simple resort, no AirCo, no TV, no disco. The girl was clearly an hardcore city girl, and she had not been informed about the lack of island facilities before boarding the plane. The guy (a Canadian) was with another Western couple who had arranged that perfect blind date. They were always speaking together about intellectual matters which were of no interest for the girl. They wanted to take her on hiking, but she had only flip-flops. The guy was nice, but lacked any sense of seduction. At the end everyone got angry, the Western couple gave $ 100 to the girl to leave, without preoccupying that all flights were fully booked at those dates, so the girl kept coming back asking for her additional travel costs until a flight was available. I must add that those guys did not want to speak to the girl, but went through the hotel Management, involving and pissing off everyone.
My own experience was excellent – so here are the rules for helping you to enjoy it:. I got my girl from the Carrousel at Angeles City: Php 1, 350 barfine, and a tip for the girl (who is so sweet she even does not want it.); payable in advance, but the Mama-sang was very cooperative (no over-charging for credit cards, allows the girl to stay longer.).
- I checked the girl for 3 nights before taking her for that one week stay on my island – she is cool, beginner on that job, sweet, not a pretentious one; you don’t need a perfect model for going on vacation, but someone who is adaptable.
- I clearly informed her about the island, no airco, no TV; I told her what to take (no city clothes), made sure that she was adequately dressed for the (wet) boat transfers.
- No, you won’t be able to have any intellectual conversation with such girl; diners are a quiet meeting; she was quite shy, especially with foreigners. So it requires some effort from your part: a lot of cuddling, make sure you give her enough attention even when all what you want to do is having a long political chat with another guy.
- And most important: medical check-up:
Indeed, the romantic atmosphere will bring you to some bare-back abandon, even if, like me, you are very strict with condoms. I had taken her for a preliminary AIDS test (hoping it’s not a scam), and a regular hygiene test, but be prepared: traces of Herpes are found on all girls, therefore. Welcome to the club. I also made sure about her contraception method (although in my own perspective, I am programmed to always ejaculate outside a pussy).
The rewards were great, a very good GFE, she did not complain at all, and we had great sex except the 3 days of course that she had her unexpected periods. We tried anal, but she is too tight and did not want to hurt her. I gave her her first oral sex, and nothing is more exciting than hearing her spontaneous moans as she has that first new experience.
Happy mongering, I hope some of those recommendations will help to avoid bad experiences as I have witnessed.
SexWithSmile
01-06-08, 07:48
Thanks X Man.
Yes, I paid the regular daily barfine per day = PHP 1, 350. Maybe I should ask a long term discount. What do you think? Well, I got at least a free drink
Caroussel: no, her name is Rachelle (but there are several of them there); What I try now is for her to bring a girl-friend for threesome education (she just text me that she wants to bring 3 GF for the ABC hotel pool, maybe I can find a non-shy one in the group).
The other couple was not an AC bar girl, but acknowledges that she was a hooker and she had a "manager". Also, the guys had paid in advance for her time. You are right, she was clearly a hardcore ***** (but who can also be fun) so I have some understanding for the guys to be angry, but then "who starts the show must end the show" without involving hotel staff and management.
Actually my GF asks for nothing more than PHP 100/200 per day, I give to her straight away: she is not expensive
Quick one on Sangat: http://www.sangat.com.ph/. Although it is a nice island with good service and great shipwreck diving, I am not sure I can recommend it for regular romantic vacation: too much seaweed in the sea, and too quiet.
Cheers,
SWS
Great post SWS,
Can you elaborate on your dealings with the bar? Did you pay that bar fine per day you were with the girl?
Carasoul? Were you humping my sweet little Jocelyn? That girl wore me out in two days, I don't think I could spend a week with her!
As for the other couple you described, was she also a bar girl? You seem to blame the guy for everything, but I have to think something else was going on there.... Nevertheless, SWS makes a very good point - always make sure the chemistry is right before you start making reservations.
I hope you can give more info about Sangat (Transportation, hotel, beaches, pics, etc) on the "other areas" thread. That is on Palawan, right?
http://www.starfish.ch/dive/Sangat.html
And my own tip: If you are spending time with a lady (bar girl or not) give her the day's spending money and let her hassle with expenses (taxis, tips, bargaining, etc.). This makes things more stress free for me, and I suppose gives her the illusion that you are giving her money.
X Man
Hawaiiflyo
01-06-08, 15:32
And my own tip: If you are spending time with a lady (bar girl or not) give her the day's spending money and let her hassle with expenses (taxis, tips, bargaining, etc.). This makes things more stress free for me, and I suppose gives her the illusion that you are giving her money.
X ManIn Japan I would pick her up in the day-time and pay off mama san (which would get them off of work for the night). Usually they help you with communication, taxis, love hotels, etc. I guess the pros will make the arrangements and the newer if not shyer girls will leave it up to you. Good advice, X Man.
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Looking to some ideas, pointers, suggestions, or anything of the sort for my good fortune trip.
About half a decade ago, I was diagnosed with a potentially lethal illness. There are particular types of illnesses, which if treated properly, and one if survives a particular amount of years, then that person is completely cured. That is, the illness is no longer considered "in remission", but to have been completely eliminated.
Well, that is me, and that is my situation. I have been living and feeling completely healthy, but knowing that there was a certain probability that I would get sick again and probably die. The highest probability of fatality was during the first couple of years of the illness, and it has slowly been receding since then. As of now, I've gone through my final rounds of medical tests, and I have been assured by all my physicians that I no longer have to worry about the illness coming back. Another way of saying it is that I am just like any other person with regard to the illness. It can strike essentially anybody, including myself. But the potential death sentence has been lifted and a new chapter in my life has begun.
I've decided to go on an extended holiday, four to six weeks. I am in pretty good financial situation and money is not a tremendous concern. Obviously, given that I am an avid reader, and moderate poster, to this site, I enjoy the finer things in life: beautiful women, primarily Asian hotties.
That being said, I put the question out to fellow members of those this horny and honorable "hobby" (I never liked that word).
• What would you guys do if you were in my situation? Where would you go, how long, etc.?
I, of course, have been mulling over different options, and I have a pretty good idea of what I will do and where I will go. I have been in to many parts of the world, excluding the Middle East, Africa, or the Indian subcontinent. I am not terribly interested in doing much "sightseeing", taking in high-culture museums, or the sort. I want to have a good time, chill, enjoy the company of friendly people, and then have a few beers/good drinks along the way. I also want to be in the company of a wide variety of beautiful females. Do I have to mention fucking? That is always implied in these posts, aren't they?
Obviously, I am going to do my best to make this a very special vacation. I'm interested in the ideas and wisdom of you learned warmongers and world travelers. I'm not interested in climbing up a mountain or trekking through a forest. I've been to many parts of Thailand, as well as some of the major cities in Asia (Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong). I know that a large part of the trip will probably be in Thailand. I could spend the entirety of it in LOS, but I want to consider other options.
The Philippines comes to mind. I think Filipinas are one of the most beautiful and erotic women on the planet….. Asian beauty with the added Spanish curves. I've been "through" some parts of the Philippines, but never really sampled the wares. In reading the posts, I suppose Angeles City would be a possibility. I haven't been there, but the information I've received hasn't really excited or terribly intrigued me. But I may be wrong. There are the other parts of the Philippines, as well: Manila, Cebu, and others. But I wonder if it would be too hectic and squalor-like.
I guess I should mention that I prefer feminine, easy-going, cute and giving females. I am not the sort for typical "go-go girls", who strike me as jaded, and perhaps over sexualized (with a loss of the feminine humanness that I respond well to). Picture the girl next door sucking your dick! Get the picture? This explains my general lack of enthusiasm for short time, wham bam, lay ‘em down and stick it in experiences. Let me be clear, I love intense sex (nothing terribly out of the ordinary, but not vanilla). I might enjoy spending a few days (max) with a particularly nice girl. But I don’t want to be tied down for any longer. There’s a lot of fucking and laughing to be done!
I'm open to any ideas. China is a big country, I understand. If there are a billion of them, that means that there has been a lot of fucking going around. I don't speak no Chinese, and I add the double negative intentionally. And I don't have any real connections in that country. There are the other South East Asian countries (Vietnam, Cambodia). I'd fuck a cute Eskimo chick. I haven't ruled out other parts of the world, i.e. East Europe (maybe best done in summer time), but Caucasian poon to me seems so “been there done that...yawn.”
I am looking at late February and March. All input appreciated (all jokes about "input" are not appreciated).
Thanks in advance. I’ll post this in a few different areas, in order to get a wide variety of ideas.
Here's to life!
I'll be in Manila from from January 11-16. I'll be staying at the Hyatt. I've read all the different club reports. Where's a good place to buy Viagra or Cialis in Ermita?
I have been itching to go to the Philippines for a lone time to scratch that itch I have been having to have all these filipinas in my bed like I have seen here. I have a few questions, and hopefully everyone can help me out.
1. For my first trip which city should I start with for good action, and decent tourist stuff (pictures for the folks to cover up my sexcapades).
2. Not knowing any Tagalog, and going by myself are things that worry me the most. I have been to Mexico by myself and what not, but this is a different animal. How do I avoid getting ripped off? Is it a good idea to go on my own?
3. I have heard the terms barfine, and what not on here. I have just started my research what I am hoping for is to have some fun in these bars take a lot of photos. But I would like a happy ending that I can document with photos at the end of the night. Where is the best place to get willing safe ladies?
4. I am allergic to seafood (end up like Hitch), and I don't want to end up in a medical facility there, and I am willing to eat rice and drink bottled sodas everyday if I have too. Are there places that are americanized for food, and I can expect some level of cleanliness?
5. I have a friend who I could take with me, but I am not sure if he is in yet. He is black, do the girls really give a damn what color the guys are or is green the name of the game? He doesn't want to go on a wasted trip if you know what I mean.
Any other tips suggestions or posts you want to point me too would be helpful, I am really excited about going, but if the risks are too high then I may have to re-think.
Thanks in advance
I have been itching to go to the Philippines for a lone time to scratch that itch I have been having to have all these filipinas in my bed like I have seen here. I have a few questions, and hopefully everyone can help me out.
1. For my first trip which city should I start with for good action, and decent tourist stuff (pictures for the folks to cover up my sexcapades).
2. Not knowing any Tagalog, and going by myself are things that worry me the most. I have been to Mexico by myself and what not, but this is a different animal. How do I avoid getting ripped off? Is it a good idea to go on my own?
3. I have heard the terms barfine, and what not on here. I have just started my research what I am hoping for is to have some fun in these bars take a lot of photos. But I would like a happy ending that I can document with photos at the end of the night. Where is the best place to get willing safe ladies?
4. I am allergic to seafood (end up like Hitch), and I don't want to end up in a medical facility there, and I am willing to eat rice and drink bottled sodas everyday if I have too. Are there places that are americanized for food, and I can expect some level of cleanliness?
5. I have a friend who I could take with me, but I am not sure if he is in yet. He is black, do the girls really give a damn what color the guys are or is green the name of the game? He doesn't want to go on a wasted trip if you know what I mean.
Any other tips suggestions or posts you want to point me too would be helpful, I am really excited about going, but if the risks are too high then I may have to re-think.
Thanks in advance
1. Cebu. Angeles is good for nothing but finding something warm to stick your
dick in.
2. In Asia kind of hard to avoid getting rip off unless you are an old head and
know all the tricks and they are still vulnerable especially after of couple
shots of fire water as the Afghanis call it. I go everywhere in PI alone. No
problems. Just watch the Jewelry dark alleys and flashing large amounts of
cash.
3. The bars. Be wary of freelancers or streetwalkers in PI.
4. The Philippines was under American rule for years. American food is
everywhere. Where have you been under a rock?
5. I am black. There are some who won't go. There are some who will. He
will have a good time. Dress nice. Don't smell. My main squeeze is a
non bar girl filipina
Kill (pussy) at will
I don't know where you're coming from, but you'll likely fly into Manila, and you can do fine there for both women and touristy pictures. If you need a beach picture you can go to Subic Bay (via Angeles City) or Puerto Galera (stop at Tagaytay / Taal Volcano for some beautiful scenery).
For a longer stay, consider Cebu. I generally travel alone and have had no problems. But then I don't get falling down drunk, nor do I speak to the morons who come up and say, "Hi, remember me? I was your taxi driver the other day...." Count your money carefully at the money changers and be wary of money changers who offers a higher rate if you exchange more money -- both times I received this offer they tried to shortchange me.
You'll find people a lot easier to talk to than in Mexico (I'm assuming you dond't speak much Spanish).
X Man
I have been itching to go to the Philippines for a lone time to scratch that itch I have been having to have all these filipinas in my bed like I have seen here. I have a few questions, and hopefully everyone can help me out.
1. For my first trip which city should I start with for good action, and decent tourist stuff (pictures for the folks to cover up my sexcapades).
2. Not knowing any Tagalog, and going by myself are things that worry me the most. I have been to Mexico by myself and what not, but this is a different animal. How do I avoid getting ripped off? Is it a good idea to go on my own?
3. I have heard the terms barfine, and what not on here. I have just started my research what I am hoping for is to have some fun in these bars take a lot of photos. But I would like a happy ending that I can document with photos at the end of the night. Where is the best place to get willing safe ladies?
4. I am allergic to seafood (end up like Hitch), and I don't want to end up in a medical facility there, and I am willing to eat rice and drink bottled sodas everyday if I have too. Are there places that are americanized for food, and I can expect some level of cleanliness?
5. I have a friend who I could take with me, but I am not sure if he is in yet. He is black, do the girls really give a damn what color the guys are or is green the name of the game? He doesn't want to go on a wasted trip if you know what I mean.
Any other tips suggestions or posts you want to point me too would be helpful, I am really excited about going, but if the risks are too high then I may have to re-think.
Thanks in advance
Gentleman,
I've been a member of this site for a number of years. I have used the valuable information here for every trip that I have taken thus far. I now feel that it is time to get off of the sidelines and give back.
Here is my personal mission statement:
To spread the spirit of mongering and share exceptional experiences with my ISG brothers. I am committed to being an important contributing member of our community by offering fun, photos, and facts while ensuring my long term mongering success.
Kid
1. IMHO, there is no better place to pop your Cherry than in AC as it is full of the "good action" as you call it. As for the pics, you will need to rent a bike and do a bit of riding around to get some decent shots.
2. Many Filipinos speak English enough to a point where knowing Tagalog is not neccessary. As stated before getting ripped off is unavoidable because it happens in so many different ways if you are a foriegner. You can keep it to a minimum though. Just use common sense and if something doesn't feel right it usually isn't. There are so many tourist in PI for the same reasons as you, you will not have any trouble hooking up with a couple guys if you don't want to stroll alone. You'll be fine though if you are alone.
3. Happy endings are a plenty so no worries there either. As far as pics go some will and some won't.
4. If you come to AC where I spend all of my time there are tons of places for you to dine sin seafood.
5. You may find some girls who get wrapped up in the myth of the mandingo but as a whole your friend will have no problems. As long as he has a great peso-nality he'll be fine. In AC out of the thousands of girls there maybe 1% will pass on going with him. That leaves a few thousand for him to choose from!
Take care,
Kid
I have been itching to go to the Philippines for a lone time to scratch that itch I have been having to have all these filipinas in my bed like I have seen here. I have a few questions, and hopefully everyone can help me out.
1. For my first trip which city should I start with for good action, and decent tourist stuff (pictures for the folks to cover up my sexcapades).
2. Not knowing any Tagalog, and going by myself are things that worry me the most. I have been to Mexico by myself and what not, but this is a different animal. How do I avoid getting ripped off? Is it a good idea to go on my own?
3. I have heard the terms barfine, and what not on here. I have just started my research what I am hoping for is to have some fun in these bars take a lot of photos. But I would like a happy ending that I can document with photos at the end of the night. Where is the best place to get willing safe ladies?
4. I am allergic to seafood (end up like Hitch), and I don't want to end up in a medical facility there, and I am willing to eat rice and drink bottled sodas everyday if I have too. Are there places that are americanized for food, and I can expect some level of cleanliness?
5. I have a friend who I could take with me, but I am not sure if he is in yet. He is black, do the girls really give a damn what color the guys are or is green the name of the game? He doesn't want to go on a wasted trip if you know what I mean.
Any other tips suggestions or posts you want to point me too would be helpful, I am really excited about going, but if the risks are too high then I may have to re-think.
Thanks in advance
Safety: Second time in PI since 2004. Didn't have a problem either time. Though I didn't wear my jewelry in PI as I do in Thailand.
Thailand wins.
Freebies: Found to be readily availible in PI though I have a steady in Manila.
in Thailand its harder and if you are black or have a dark complexion you can damn near forget it with a non bar girl.
PI wins.
Bar Scene: I have only seen Angeles. I have no experience in Makati or Cebu.
in Thailand I have mongered more then once in all the spots. Nice shows in Angeles no nudity. Hounded to buy drinks in both places. I love the nudity and the pussy shows.
Thailand wins
Bar Girls: Friendly. Talkative. Speaks English. You can have a conversation in PI other then "You handsome man." "You pay bar fine." Like in Thailand. Some rejected Bar fine. This has happened also in Thailand also but not so as the rate in Angeles. The Thai girls are more beautiful hands down. Too many bellies in Angeles.
PI wins because the girls were just more fun to be around. Playful.
Bar Girls in the sack: Of the girls I barfined in Angeles they all complained and did virtually nothing. In Thailand I have had girls fuck my socks off. Some I have had to kick out my room because they wanted to fuck too much. In Thailand they know the drill. They come to the room get naked and shower and go to work. In PI all the girls came and sat and watched TV like I paid them to do that. Then all the extras CIM, COM, anal etc... Mostly no complaints in Thailand.
Thailand Wins
The wrap up: As I stated at this point Thailand is a better destination for fucking but knowing the Thais like I do I would go with a Filipina if you looking for something solid. I will explore Angeles and the other joints in the next couple of months to get a more solid picture. Not to mention for some reason I just like Filipinas better.
Guys,
I did a search but have not found much on this thread.Planning for a trip end Jan and need some help.
I'll be landing in Clark and need to find my way to Binan Laguna than Manila or back to Clark depending where I'm going to spend that night.I'm flying off the next day from Clark. I need some help to find a driver to take me around. Anyone has a driver with car that they would like to recommend. another option is to get a airport taxi back and forth. Not sure what it will cost but was told the trip to Laguna is 2-3 hours.
Advise and help is much appreciated.
I have been to Thailand once and my personal preference was that I didn't find Thai girls attractive. I used to tell my friends walking around the mall in Bangkok they all looked the same. There are some hot ones the working girls, especially the ones behind the glass walls in Bangkok. Hunting non-pros is no fun because for some reason there is no such thing, as I understand the social standard is either you are a hoe or you do not date or be seen with a farang, ever. It has been awhile, maybe things have changed since.
On the other hand I used to have Filipino friends in Los Angeles, and go to parties with them, and I thought some of the Filipina girls gorgeous. I thought they had more European features than Thai girls. Again, this is my personal preference and I realize people have different tastes.
Apparently I missed the reasons why everyone else loved Thailand (aside from P4P) and so a close friend convinced me go join him in Thailand for some island hopping and all the activities Thailand is famous for: scuba, the caves, beach, motorcycle rides, etc. I booked the flight, on the condition we take a side trip to the Philippines, for 2 or 3 days.
For a total Philippines newbie, what is the best city to fly to and spend 2-3 days? Anything close to NY/Miami style lounges/bars/ and clubs for nightlife, westernized girls, nice beach and some beach activities, and maybe a dive. Good P4P options wouldn't hurt either. Thanks in advance.. couldn't make this information out from reading the forum.
For a total Philippines newbie, what is the best city to fly to and spend 2-3 days? Anything close to NY/Miami style lounges/bars/ and clubs for nightlife, westernized girls, nice beach and some beach activities, and maybe a dive. Good P4P options wouldn't hurt either. Thanks in advance.. couldn't make this information out from reading the forum.
Cebu...If anyone disagrees please tell why I would love to hear it.
Guys,
I did a search but have not found much on this thread.Planning for a trip end Jan and need some help.
I'll be landing in Clark and need to find my way to Binan Laguna than Manila or back to Clark depending where I'm going to spend that night.I'm flying off the next day from Clark. I need some help to find a driver to take me around. Anyone has a driver with car that they would like to recommend. another option is to get a airport taxi back and forth. Not sure what it will cost but was told the trip to Laguna is 2-3 hours.
Advise and help is much appreciated.
Contact beeline travel. You can go their website, email or instant messenger them on yahoo. They always do right by me.
Tacamoherc
01-11-08, 20:56
Guys,
I did a search but have not found much on this thread.Planning for a trip end Jan and need some help.
I'll be landing in Clark and need to find my way to Binan Laguna than Manila or back to Clark depending where I'm going to spend that night.I'm flying off the next day from Clark. I need some help to find a driver to take me around. Anyone has a driver with car that they would like to recommend. another option is to get a airport taxi back and forth. Not sure what it will cost but was told the trip to Laguna is 2-3 hours.
Advise and help is much appreciated.I have relatives in Binan and go there alot. From Clark to Manila is a 2 to 3 hour drive depending on traffic. Then another 2 hour to Binan again depends on time of day. To take a taxi would cost alot so best bet is car and driver, Swagman in AC or Beeline should be able to help with that. They are both good! If hard up could take Swagman bus to Manila then taxi to Binan and cut some of the cost. Binan is past Manila and can watch planes take off and land at airport from there. Good luck and hope this also helps.
Cebu...If anyone disagrees please tell why I would love to hear it.
What about Baracay? Heard it is very hi-end place. Thank you
Borocay is the type of place where you either bring your own, hit on regular girls, or check out the slim pickings of p4p at the discos.
A better and equiv itinerary (in my opinion) is go to Cebu for the girl, then 90 minutes by Ocean Jet (550pesos) + taxi ride and you can be on white sand Alona Beach, Panglao, Bohol.
The guy who asked about Laguna, you are likely to get overcharged if you if you go direct from the airport. Consider asking the taxi to take you to a hotel and then on the way negotiate a price to Laguna. Also, bars like Amazon or Slouch Hat or some of the hotels can probably help you find a driver, although probably cheaper to negotiate with a taxi directly.
There used to be some kind of van that went down to the south to Puerto Galera. They might be willing to drop you off somewhere in Laguna if it isn't too far out of the way.
Cebu for a newbie with a short holiday would be best if the newbie flies in direct. I don't remember the req. of the original poster.
X Man
What about Baracay? Heard it is very hi-end place. Thank you
Borocay is the type of place where you either bring your own, hit on regular girls, or check out the slim pickings of p4p at the discos.
A better and equiv itinerary (in my opinion) is go to Cebu for the girl, then 90 minutes by Ocean Jet (550pesos) + taxi ride and you can be on white sand Alona Beach, Panglao, Bohol.
The guy who asked about Laguna, you are likely to get overcharged if you if you go direct from the airport. Consider asking the taxi to take you to a hotel and then on the way negotiate a price to Laguna. Also, bars like Amazon or Slouch Hat or some of the hotels can probably help you find a driver, although probably cheaper to negotiate with a taxi directly.
There used to be some kind of van that went down to the south to Puerto Galera. They might be willing to drop you off somewhere in Laguna if it isn't too far out of the way.
Cebu for a newbie with a short holiday would be best if the newbie flies in direct. I don't remember the req. of the original poster.
X Man
There is a bus yard in Pasay City on Taft just south of Gil Puyat Ave. These are mostly aircon buses going to various destinations. Fares are cheap. To get to Puerto Galera, you would take the bus to Batangas and the ferry from there. That one was non-stop, iirc, but you should be able to ask around for a bus to Laguna. Make sure it's aircon. Also if you're a big guy, you may need to buy two seats or even three seats together because the seats are often made for tiny people with short legs and there's no space for luggage overhead. Still cheap though. But you might be in legroom hell if you're very tall.
Another alternative bus yard is the one at Glorietta at the southwest corner of that complex, iirc. I think some of the bigger malls will have buses available as well. Just have to look around and ask.
I like that suggestion about Panglao, Bohol.
JackTheLad2
01-12-08, 19:29
Can someone give me some information please about the cost of living in the Philippines. I have become somewhat attached (even smitten) to a girl working in Hong Kong who is able to send regularly home about HK$5000 weekly. (Most of mine I may add) This is about 26,000 peso. She is back in the Philippines after spending about 6 weeks in HK because her visa expired but she is returning to HK in February. She is now asking me for money to be sent - she has the usual nothing to feed the kids with etc. I am curious as to should she have enough with 26,000 peso being sent every week for the past 6 weeks or is she genuinely struggling at present. Stupid question, I know, but I am intrigued. Is it the usual con and that she is probably "doing all right"! for herself. She stays with her 2 kids, her sister (also on the HK run) and her parents in the Alabang area of Philippines, just south of Manila.
Grateful for any information.
I am sure I am one of a million mongers shaking our head and smiling at the fact you are sending P26000 a week! I think I am one Monger as will many will follow and agree with what I say that you are most definately being conned. If you are sending her that much weekly you are most likely having her live the high life. I would tell you that if the girl lives in the Province and you honestly think she is a "good girl" you could send her P15, 000 to P20, 000 am month and she will be happy as hell. Obviously if she is in Manila you could easily send her P26, 000 and she be happiest as hell you are helping her. Also take into account that the majority of peaple who do have jobs make about P300 a day. This amounts to about P8500 a month! So as you can see you are being well had by this girl. The guys in uniform at the airport that stand around and look like security make P400 a day and work 6 days a week which is decent in the Philippines at P9600 a month. Take the information I have given you as will I am sure others will follow with advice and make up your mind.
Jazzy Daddy
01-12-08, 22:53
She is living like a queen on that amount. I would think, rethink and rethink again before sending anything...
Can someone give me some information please about the cost of living in the Philippines. I have become somewhat attached (even smitten) to a girl working in Hong Kong who is able to send regularly home about HK$5000 weekly. (Most of mine I may add) This is about 26,000 peso. She is back in the Philippines after spending about 6 weeks in HK because her visa expired but she is returning to HK in February. She is now asking me for money to be sent - she has the usual nothing to feed the kids with etc. I am curious as to should she have enough with 26,000 peso being sent every week for the past 6 weeks or is she genuinely struggling at present. Stupid question, I know, but I am intrigued. Is it the usual con and that she is probably "doing all right"! for herself. She stays with her 2 kids, her sister (also on the HK run) and her parents in the Alabang area of Philippines, just south of Manila.
Grateful for any information.
Can someone give me some information please about the cost of living in the Philippines. I have become somewhat attached (even smitten) to a girl working in Hong Kong who is able to send regularly home about HK$5000 weekly. (Most of mine I may add) This is about 26,000 peso. She is back in the Philippines after spending about 6 weeks in HK because her visa expired but she is returning to HK in February. She is now asking me for money to be sent - she has the usual nothing to feed the kids with etc. I am curious as to should she have enough with 26,000 peso being sent every week for the past 6 weeks or is she genuinely struggling at present. Stupid question, I know, but I am intrigued. Is it the usual con and that she is probably "doing all right"! for herself. She stays with her 2 kids, her sister (also on the HK run) and her parents in the Alabang area of Philippines, just south of Manila.Grateful for any information.I hope that you are incorrect and that you meant to say 26,000P for a month. The average Filipino (not in Manila) makes around 12,000P - 15,000P a month, so at 26,000P a month, she would be above average. I would be very careful sending anymore money to her. Please let us know what happens.
Good Luck
Robb
Rubberyman
01-12-08, 23:08
Jackthelad!
Oh dear!
The average monthly salary in the Phillipines is 10,629 Pesos.
http://www.nscb.gov.ph/sdds/nsdp.asp
That includes the mega rich, so your average middle class wage earner gets less than that. So you are paying her about ten times what an average person would get....so you are paying her in a week as much as a good accountant or professional engineer would get in a month.
Yep, she is living like a queen, probably in the top ten percent of all money earners in the country.
And of course, if she were doing this to other guys (You are the only one, right? Of course, silly question) then she is probably in the top five percentile of income in the PI.
However, what you pay her and for what you get out of it, that is your business, and if it makes you happy, good luck to you.
I am curious as to should she have enough with 26,000 peso being sent every week for the past 6 weeks or is she genuinely struggling at present. Stupid question, I know, but I am intrigued. Is it the usual con and that she is probably "doing all right"! for herself. She stays with her 2 kids, her sister (also on the HK run) and her parents in the Alabang area of Philippines, just south of Manila.
Grateful for any information.Wow Jackthelad2!
You should consider RTFF before sending any more money as there are countless examples of this exact kind of stuff on here. If your girl is getting and spending Php26,000 on a weekly basis she is doing EXTREMELY well for herself. Using AC prices as an example if this girl was/is a bar girl, she'd have to get bf about 40 times a week to sustain that kind of income. Rubberyman had it right though, if it makes you happy, the best of luck to to you my friend.
Kid
A better and equiv itinerary (in my opinion) is go to Cebu for the girl, then 90 minutes by Ocean Jet (550pesos) + taxi ride and you can be on white sand Alona Beach, Panglao, Bohol.X Man
Х Маn, how about Manila only, for the first 2-3 day visit to the country? This will be a side trip for us on Thailand vacation. I know this is too short a visit, but hope to enjoy it and plan a longer trip in the future. Again, looking for some quality western or close to style night life. P4P alternatives are good to have also. Sorry to ask same question without contributing to the board. Will be sure to report upon return, as always.
Hmmm, "western" style entertainment, whatever that means...
1) Stay in Makati, go to Hard Rock Cafe for the live band, go to Burgos Street go-gos if you get horny.
2) Stay in Ermita or Malate, go to LA cafe for the live band, order take out.
Both locations are in Metro Manila and probably 45 minutes from each other outside of rush hour and both are probably equadistant from the airport.
There are a variety of hotel, restaurant, entertainment options in both places, but Makati will in most cases be nicer, cleaner, more expensive.
X
Х Маn, how about Manila only, for the first 2-3 day visit to the country? This will be a side trip for us on Thailand vacation. I know this is too short a visit, but hope to enjoy it and plan a longer trip in the future. Again, looking for some quality western or close to style night life. P4P alternatives are good to have also. Sorry to ask same question without contributing to the board. Will be sure to report upon return, as always.
JackTheLad2
01-13-08, 15:36
[QUOTE Please let us know what happens.
Good Luck
Robb[/QUOTE]
Many thanks to all you guys out there that responed to my query. The information was a bit of an eye opener.
Maybe I did not make it clear but I have never sent any money to her in Phil.
What I did was I paid her HK$1000 a night LT when I was with her in Hong Kong. I met her in Galaxy bar in Wan Chai. That is the going rate in HK and I got good value for money, believe me. Over the 5 nights or so, I paid her just over HK$5000. Converted, I reckoned over the 6 weeks she was in HK she made a minimum of 26,000 pesos. I knew she sent this back to Phil as I saw the Western Union credit slips. She returned to Phil on 31st December and has kept in touch almost daily - phone calls, e-mails, texts etc. Now she is aking me to send money with the usual exuses about having no money, kids need stuff etc etc. I'm not entirely daft and have no intention of sending any money.
I was curious to know what kind of life she might have been leading in Phil based on the money I know she earned as a pro in HK. Obviously she is doing quite well.
Words like "F...off" come to mind the next time she contacts me.
Thanks again guys.
I also posted on the HK forum some of my experiences of HK.
Thanks XMan.
is this what working girls in the philippines typically look like?
http://www.silverdollarbarcebu.com/food.htm
Mongering1
01-13-08, 21:41
NO!
Bud
Thanks XMan.
is this what working girls in the philippines typically look like?
http://www.silverdollarbarcebu.com/food.htm
Wow, glad to hear your clarification. And of course the pay is higher in HK. Many of the girls go there on three month visas, so they have to earn enough to pay for their flights.
There's no harm in asking for money -- and there's no reason to be rude to her. My recommendation is just ignore the money requests. You said you got good value for money, so why ruin a good thing? You might need her services again.
X
Many thanks to all you guys out there that responed to my query. The information was a bit of an eye opener.
Maybe I did not make it clear but I have never sent any money to her in Phil.
What I did was I paid her HK$1000 a night LT when I was with her in Hong Kong. I met her in Galaxy bar in Wan Chai. That is the going rate in HK and I got good value for money, believe me. Over the 5 nights or so, I paid her just over HK$5000. Converted, I reckoned over the 6 weeks she was in HK she made a minimum of 26,000 pesos. I knew she sent this back to Phil as I saw the Western Union credit slips. She returned to Phil on 31st December and has kept in touch almost daily - phone calls, e-mails, texts etc. Now she is aking me to send money with the usual exuses about having no money, kids need stuff etc etc. I'm not entirely daft and have no intention of sending any money.
I was curious to know what kind of life she might have been leading in Phil based on the money I know she earned as a pro in HK. Obviously she is doing quite well.
Words like "F...off" come to mind the next time she contacts me.
Thanks again guys.
I also posted on the HK forum some of my experiences of HK.
Bilbo Baggins
01-14-08, 02:36
There's no harm in asking for money -- and there's no reason to be rude to her. My recommendation is just ignore the money requests. You said you got good value for money, so why ruin a good thing? You might need her services again.
X
You are a good man X Man always helpful and with good advice I will be in Davao in a few days time its a pity our paths didn't cross.
BB, The ladies sometimes tell me I'm a good man too. Also, handsome. I always reply, "I know". I think I learned that in an old Star wars movie...Harrison Ford?
It's surprising how many later retract their comments with "bullshitter", etc...
I guess they were expecting something more than a one or two night stand. Hey, they dream about princes in white armor, and I dream about sweet chocolate skin and wet thighs...it's not my fault we dream differently.
X
You are a good man X Man always helpful and with good advice I will be in Davao in a few days time its a pity our paths didn't cross.
JackTheLad2
01-14-08, 13:00
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There's no harm in asking for money -- and there's no reason to be rude to her. My recommendation is just ignore the money requests. You said you got good value for money, so why ruin a good thing? You might need her services again.
X
I concur with you - but what annoys is when you know they are blatantly lying when asking for money.
As for needing her services again, in HK there is an endless stream of willing participants, albeit some are better than others. She was certainly in the top sector with GFE and the sex was incredible but sometimes you have to move on - variety is the spice of life. I find it also difficult not to become emotionally involved when with the same person for 4/5 days in a row. It is only natural to form a bond. Breaking it is hard. Anyone out there agree with me?
I have relatives in Binan and go there alot. From Clark to Manila is a 2 to 3 hour drive depending on traffic. Then another 2 hour to Binan again depends on time of day. To take a taxi would cost alot so best bet is car and driver, Swagman in AC or Beeline should be able to help with that. They are both good! If hard up could take Swagman bus to Manila then taxi to Binan and cut some of the cost. Binan is past Manila and can watch planes take off and land at airport from there. Good luck and hope this also helps.Thanks to you, bpd81 and X Man. I'm going to skip Manila as I do not have a need to go there. Looks like putting up in AC is better for me based on your advice. I'll try to fix a car with beeline etc and return from Laguna the same night. I've never been to AC or Clark before but thanks to you guys, I'll manage.
Thanks again fellow bros.:)
It would have to be one cold bastard who would not agree with you....
I've certainly suffered from some serious PPD on occasion. And the ladies who have been responsible....well....they seem to have done their magic on some other guys too...
... there are four ladies (that I know of) who rocked my world...great GFE, both p4p and regular, who are living overseas and apparently happily married.
All were guilty of small lies, white lies and lies of omission -- just as I was!
As for the major liars, scammers, who happened to temporarily snare me in their web (much to their financial disappointement), none of them seem to have made the big catch.
Some of them curse me...and then three months later I send them a polite "hello". They don't have very long memories.
X
I concur with you - but what annoys is when you know they are blatantly lying when asking for money.
As for needing her services again, in HK there is an endless stream of willing participants, albeit some are better than others. She was certainly in the top sector with GFE and the sex was incredible but sometimes you have to move on - variety is the spice of life. I find it also difficult not to become emotionally involved when with the same person for 4/5 days in a row. It is only natural to form a bond. Breaking it is hard. Anyone out there agree with me?
JackTheLad2
01-15-08, 12:15
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Some of them curse me...and then three months later I send them a polite "hello". They don't have very long memories.
X
Substitute "Hello" for "your walking ATM machine here".
That's why they have short memories. Been there & done exactly the same as you.
Tell you what, hovever, it is never the same second time round.
Jack, my post was confusing, so let me elaborate. Of course the women I've become close to USUALLY remember me. And I'm referring to both p4p women and regular ladies I've met thru chatting or hitting on them when I was in the Philippines. Of the four I mentioned in my earlier post, two were from Cherry blossom, one was from the old Jurassic Park in Ermita and the last from EDSA Entertainment in Pasay (although the last two times I met her she was engaged and living in the Cebu area).
When I mentioned "short memories", I was referring to those I've just chatted with and had some disagreement. A few will lash out with some really vile stuff. Naturally, this confirms that I want nothing to do with them. I keep them in my YM with a little x next to their name to show me that they are toxic. But let's say I'm going to be in Cebu next week. I send a message to everyone in my "Cebu" group with a polite greeting and much to my surprise, it is usally the toxic ones who are first to respond with some sappy message like, "I miss you darling".
Of course another explanation is that they DO NOT have short memories, but assume I do. Ha, ha.
PPD is post Philippines depression.
I should probably coin a new one as well. PPG, or Post Philippine Guilt. This is because I fell in lust with a girl, treated her like a princess, and then she sends me a message like "I'll wait for you."
X Man
Substitute "Hello" for "your walking ATM machine here".
That's why they have short memories. Been there & done exactly the same as you.
Tell you what, hovever, it is never the same second time round.
It's not exactly short memory or attention span. It's more like a re-start. The round that ended in anger and hostility, that is days or weeks in the past. Now the bell has rung, starting a new round. Maybe there will be a payoff at the end. [This observation only applies to P4P girls.]
Jack, my post was confusing, so let me elaborate. Of course the women I've become close to USUALLY remember me. And I'm referring to both p4p women and regular ladies I've met thru chatting or hitting on them when I was in the Philippines. Of the four I mentioned in my earlier post, two were from Cherry blossom, one was from the old Jurassic Park in Ermita and the last from EDSA Entertainment in Pasay (although the last two times I met her she was engaged and living in the Cebu area).
When I mentioned "short memories", I was referring to those I've just chatted with and had some disagreement. A few will lash out with some really vile stuff. Naturally, this confirms that I want nothing to do with them. I keep them in my YM with a little x next to their name to show me that they are toxic. But let's say I'm going to be in Cebu next week. I send a message to everyone in my "Cebu" group with a polite greeting and much to my surprise, it is usally the toxic ones who are first to respond with some sappy message like, "I miss you darling".
Of course another explanation is that they DO NOT have short memories, but assume I do. Ha, ha.
PPD is post Philippines depression.
I should probably coin a new one as well. PPG, or Post Philippine Guilt. This is because I fell in lust with a girl, treated her like a princess, and then she sends me a message like "I'll wait for you."
X Man
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Looking to some ideas, pointers, suggestions, or anything of the sort for my good fortune trip.
About half a decade ago, I was diagnosed with a potentially lethal illness. There are particular types of illnesses, which if treated properly, and one if survives a particular amount of years, then that person is completely cured. That is, the illness is no longer considered "in remission", but to have been completely eliminated.
Well, that is me, and that is my situation. I have been living and feeling completely healthy, but knowing that there was a certain probability that I would get sick again and probably die. The highest probability of fatality was during the first couple of years of the illness, and it has slowly been receding since then. As of now, I've gone through my final rounds of medical tests, and I have been assured by all my physicians that I no longer have to worry about the illness coming back. Another way of saying it is that I am just like any other person with regard to the illness. It can strike essentially anybody, including myself. But the potential death sentence has been lifted and a new chapter in my life has begun.
I've decided to go on an extended holiday, four to six weeks. I am in pretty good financial situation and money is not a tremendous concern. Obviously, given that I am an avid reader, and moderate poster, to this site, I enjoy the finer things in life: beautiful women, primarily Asian hotties.
That being said, I put the question out to fellow members of those this horny and honorable "hobby" (I never liked that word).
• What would you guys do if you were in my situation? Where would you go, how long, etc.?
I, of course, have been mulling over different options, and I have a pretty good idea of what I will do and where I will go. I have been in to many parts of the world, excluding the Middle East, Africa, or the Indian subcontinent. I am not terribly interested in doing much "sightseeing", taking in high-culture museums, or the sort. I want to have a good time, chill, enjoy the company of friendly people, and then have a few beers/good drinks along the way. I also want to be in the company of a wide variety of beautiful females. Do I have to mention fucking? That is always implied in these posts, aren't they?
Obviously, I am going to do my best to make this a very special vacation. I'm interested in the ideas and wisdom of you learned warmongers and world travelers. I'm not interested in climbing up a mountain or trekking through a forest. I've been to many parts of Thailand, as well as some of the major cities in Asia (Tokyo, Seoul, Hong Kong). I know that a large part of the trip will probably be in Thailand. I could spend the entirety of it in LOS, but I want to consider other options.
The Philippines comes to mind. I think Filipinas are one of the most beautiful and erotic women on the planet….. Asian beauty with the added Spanish curves. I've been "through" some parts of the Philippines, but never really sampled the wares. In reading the posts, I suppose Angeles City would be a possibility. I haven't been there, but the information I've received hasn't really excited or terribly intrigued me. But I may be wrong. There are the other parts of the Philippines, as well: Manila, Cebu, and others. But I wonder if it would be too hectic and squalor-like.
I guess I should mention that I prefer feminine, easy-going, cute and giving females. I am not the sort for typical "go-go girls", who strike me as jaded, and perhaps over sexualized (with a loss of the feminine humanness that I respond well to). Picture the girl next door sucking your dick! Get the picture? This explains my general lack of enthusiasm for short time, wham bam, lay ‘em down and stick it in experiences. Let me be clear, I love intense sex (nothing terribly out of the ordinary, but not vanilla). I might enjoy spending a few days (max) with a particularly nice girl. But I don’t want to be tied down for any longer. There’s a lot of fucking and laughing to be done!
I'm open to any ideas. China is a big country, I understand. If there are a billion of them, that means that there has been a lot of fucking going around. I don't speak no Chinese, and I add the double negative intentionally. And I don't have any real connections in that country. There are the other South East Asian countries (Vietnam, Cambodia). I'd fuck a cute Eskimo chick. I haven't ruled out other parts of the world, i.e. East Europe (maybe best done in summer time), but Caucasian poon to me seems so “been there done that...yawn.”
I am looking at late February and March. All input appreciated (all jokes about "input" are not appreciated).
Thanks in advance. I’ll post this in a few different areas, in order to get a wide variety of ideas.
Here's to life!Glad to hear about your full recovery.
I think the Philippines is one country nobody should miss. I've been all around Asia. China, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Thailand, etc. But the Philippines is still my favorite. Although the Filipina beauty is quite often compared to Thai beauty, I think the mixed race of the Filipinas (with Spanish and Chinese and maybe American) makes up for a more exquisite beauty in them.
Another plus in the Philippines is the fact that 99% of the people there understand and speak English. It's the easiest to get around than any other Asian country I've been to. And the 10+ times I've been there walking around alone at 3 or 4am even, I've never had any problem. So it is quite a safe place.
I really don't suggest you go to Angeles City. I've been there twice and I didn't really like it as much as Manila or even Cebu. Out of these three cities, I would say Angeles is the most squalor-like. I myself am a laid back type of person, not really into the night life. But Manila and Cebu suits me quite well.
I've been to Manila more than a dozen times and Cebu once. There really is so much more to do and go to in Manila in terms of seeing and being with beautiful females. I suggest Quezon Ave. , Roxas Blvd, and Ermita. I'll try to continue this later. Have to go.
Which city in the Phils has the hottest girls and the best nightlife? Unfortunately we are only going to be there 2 days (Sat and Sun). Hope to like it and come back for more another time!
Jolo -- you'll have the time of your life!
Which city in the Phils has the hottest girls and the best nightlife? Unfortunately we are only going to be there 2 days (Sat and Sun). Hope to like it and come back for more another time!
Which city in the Phils has the hottest girls and the best nightlife? Unfortunately we are only going to be there 2 days (Sat and Sun). Hope to like it and come back for more another time!
Which city in the Phils has the hottest girls and the best nightlife? Unfortunately we are only going to be there 2 days (Sat and Sun). Hope to like it and come back for more another time!For the two days? Recomendations will depend on where you are starting from.
Jolo -- you'll have the time of your life!You are a serious Ass-hole.
Funny though.
And you my friend must be the forum genius.
Sean has basically asked the same question three times. He's gotten answers and he's already been asked to elaborate (he has somewhat). Go ahead and answer the question AGAIN since you are so smart and generous.
X
For the two days? Recomendations will depend on where you are starting from.
Hello DongHi, we'll be coming from Bangkok, we only have 2 nights in the Philippines. The purpose of the trip is to check out the girls and the nightlife and decide if it's worth coming back for more. Because one of the two days is going to be Sunday and I have no idea what the nightlife is like on Sundays in general (and I don't mean hooker places), we are not even sure it's worth a 3+ hour flight each way. I live in Manhattan so I was also interested in the quality of nightlife, how does that compare to high end clubs of Miami, Buenos Aires, or EE (preferably not Hard Rock Cafe)? I am a total Asia newbie. I have asked here and yes I got a couple of one-liners. I mostly post on Colombia and EE branches, and when I answer I always give more info. I understand some people feel they own this branch, maybe they've matured enough to get their own thread. In the meantime I will appreciate a good advice from other members of the forum.
Rubberyman
01-20-08, 01:24
Hi Sean,
The more detailed information you give on what you are looking for, the more detailed answers we can give you.
All I can offer is that if you are going to be coming from Thailand, go to Soi Cowboy in BKK. Then with that as a reference, Angeles City, Fields Ave is like that, but much longer and with some higher end places, not any nudity, some lower end places. Food is not as good imo, but it's cheaper. The beer is good, but don't get excited about the cocktails. Massage places nowhere near as good as Thailand. More likely to get gfe - but perhaps not on a three day jaunt. Philipinas seem to be more inhibited than the Thai ladies with respect to the really really nasty stuff. It is not really point and fuck either quite as much as Thailand.
Without knowing what exactly it is you are looking for, it is hard to give advice.
Also, rtff will give you a heap more info on prices pix etc etc. Most of it has been posted before if you care to look.
Something like this, but in the Philippines. Bangkok has great nightlife, it just lacks curvy Filipino girls!
http://www.worldsbestbars.com/city/bangkok/vertigo-bangkok.htm
http://www.bedsupperclub.com/home.php
I am sure I am one of a million mongers shaking our head and smiling at the fact you are sending P26000 a week! I think I am one Monger as will many will follow and agree with what I say that you are most definately being conned. If you are sending her that much weekly you are most likely having her live the high life. I would tell you that if the girl lives in the Province and you honestly think she is a "good girl" you could send her P15, 000 to P20, 000 am month and she will be happy as hell. Obviously if she is in Manila you could easily send her P26, 000 and she be happiest as hell you are helping her. Also take into account that the majority of peaple who do have jobs make about P300 a day. This amounts to about P8500 a month! So as you can see you are being well had by this girl. The guys in uniform at the airport that stand around and look like security make P400 a day and work 6 days a week which is decent in the Philippines at P9600 a month. Take the information I have given you as will I am sure others will follow with advice and make up your mind.
The girls will still want more. Buy them a camera, phone or mp3 player, they will pawn it and tell you it got stolen so you will give them another. They are just pretty versions of our trailer-park-ghetto girls. They are always looking over your shoulder for a better meal ticket, and if one comes along they will dump you in a NY minute.
Buy them a camera, phone or mp3 player, they will pawn it and tell you it got stolen so you will give them another.
Hehe, once a girl in AC asked me to bring her a digital camera, it was last year October or November. She wanted to take pictures at home during Christmas and NYE before she comes back to AC. I had a small Kodak camera, 7MP or so.
Since I'm used to DSLR-pics I was pretty disappointed with the quality of the pics and I wanted to get rid of it already earlier. Suggested the girl, just take this one here, take your pics on Christmas and give it back to me afterwards.
So, she's back in AC as I will be next month also. Honestly, I don't want the camera back, I don't think I'll get the camera back, just want to hear which story pops up.
Keep you posted..... :D
Well, I would expect you'd want advice from "other" members since I've already answered your question. Actually answered it twice, although the second time was meant as a joke. You're welcome very much.
BTW, why you guys always fighting so much on the Thai board. Is that an example of your maturity?
I understand some people feel they own this branch, maybe they've matured enough to get their own thread. In the meantime I will appreciate a good advice from other members of the forum.
is it to find Filipinas of mixed Asian/black blood like the ones in California. It makes for a gorgeous combination but I dont see any in the Photos.I am strongly considering spending 2 weeks in AC but dont want to be completely dissapointed as I am a lover of dark skin ladies.I prefer the slim types w/nice asses.
Been catching up on my reading here, this question was asked a while ago, so apologies for the delay in responding. Mixed Asian/Black does not make a gorgeous combination for me I will admit, but I am a firm believer in the to each their own philosophy :) . Havent been to AC in a little while, but last time I was there I recall there being at least 2 of these types of girls in Neros, but really not particularly attractive and a little too large for my liking. Regular visitors to that bar will surely know the girls I am referring to. There was also a girl at Dollhouse before who was one of the superstar dancers there who I am pretty sure was half black, she was quite tall and very skinny, she may even have been Miss Dollhouse or something. She was quite hot, although I found out later much to my surprise that she was a cherry girl!
Hello DongHi, we'll be coming from Bangkok, we only have 2 nights in the Philippines. The purpose of the trip is to check out the girls and the nightlife and decide if it's worth coming back for more. Because one of the two days is going to be Sunday and I have no idea what the nightlife is like on Sundays in general (and I don't mean hooker places), we are not even sure it's worth a 3+ hour flight each way. I live in Manhattan so I was also interested in the quality of nightlife, how does that compare to high end clubs of Miami, Buenos Aires, or EE (preferably not Hard Rock Cafe)? I am a total Asia newbie. I have asked here and yes I got a couple of one-liners. I mostly post on Colombia and EE branches, and when I answer I always give more info. I understand some people feel they own this branch, maybe they've matured enough to get their own thread. In the meantime I will appreciate a good advice from other members of the forum.Sean,
Well, based on your explanation I think you will be disappointed in the clubbing scene in the Phils. Looks to me like you are looking for a grind club with easy hook-ups. Sorry man, the Phils, is probably not for you. Remember that the country is 90% Roman Catholic, and still fairly conservative. There are clubs in Manila and Cebu that probably pass for the PI version of what you are looking for, but again, based on your comparisions, I think you will be disappointed. IMHO, and of course as always, others may have other ideas.
There are plenty of filipinas with African-American fathers. Also, Japanese, etc. Don't be shy. Ask around and make your preference known. Then sit in one spot and the girls will magically appear.
Been catching up on my reading here, this question was asked a while ago, so apologies for the delay in responding. Mixed Asian/Black does not make a gorgeous combination for me I will admit, but I am a firm believer in the to each their own philosophy :) . Havent been to AC in a little while, but last time I was there I recall there being at least 2 of these types of girls in Neros, but really not particularly attractive and a little too large for my liking. Regular visitors to that bar will surely know the girls I am referring to. There was also a girl at Dollhouse before who was one of the superstar dancers there who I am pretty sure was half black, she was quite tall and very skinny, she may even have been Miss Dollhouse or something. She was quite hot, although I found out later much to my surprise that she was a cherry girl!
Actually answered it twice, although the second time was meant as a joke. You're welcome very much.
X, I know it was a joke, no hard feelings man. There are not nearly not as many postings on this thread as opposed to Thailand and I think it's a good thing.
Based on everything we've read Manila has a great nightlife, "beautiful people", so we'll give it a shot. It's all about having a good time.
If you ruled out HRCafe (live band), I still don't know what you are looking for.
Two places I've heard about but never been to.
Nirvana Disco on on Taft (Malate?).
Entertainment complex at "the fort" which I believe has a disco and is in Makati.
There are some minor clubs in the area of Malate Church / Remidios Circle -- mostly Filipino crowd. The Hobbit is an unusual dinner club with live music. There is a Havana Restaurant here just as there is in Greenbelt mall in Makati, but it isn't the pickup place that Makati Havana is.
Cebu has Sunflower disco (live band) and the newly opened disco called Paseo. That's where I was last month and that's where I'll be in March.
X
Kavorka341
01-23-08, 14:58
'The fort' complex that x man mentioned is probably what your looking for.
2 good clubs, one called 'embassy', and another next door but can't remember the name.
'The fort' complex that x man mentioned is probably what your looking for.
2 good clubs, one called 'embassy', and another next door but can't remember the name.
it's called CUISINE, also owned by EMBASSY.
Desert Don
01-24-08, 23:44
What is it called when your wife is Filipino that will get you a longer time visa?
Thanks,
Don
X Man, Kavorka, Santa - thanks for the info. I'll write a complete report when I return.
Btw, for those heading to Asia consider flying to Hong Kong first as an option. It's $608 from NY with one stop (or $640 on Continental direct), and little bit over $500 if coming from California. There are several bugdet airlines including Cebu Pacific that you can take to Manila or Cebu or BKK very cheap.
Bilbo Baggins
01-25-08, 11:18
What is it called when your wife is Filipino that will get you a longer time visa?
Thanks,
Don
Balikbayan its good for a year but you need to be with her or she needs to ask for it, someone who has done it will confirm.
'The fort' complex that x man mentioned is probably what your looking for.
2 good clubs, one called 'embassy', and another next door but can't remember the name.
It's Prince Of Jaipur--not Cuisine as stated...
Also, there is a place on the 3rd floor called Piedra and another club that opened 2 blocks north of there--I think it's called Ascent.
Balikbayan its good for a year but you need to be with her or she needs to ask for it, someone who has done it will confirm.
You can't get it--only your wife can. They will print "BB" on the entry stamp which is good for a year but only true Balikbayans can get it.
Marquis De Sade
01-26-08, 14:05
It's Prince Of Jaipur--not Cuisine as stated...
Also, there is a place on the 3rd floor called Piedra and another club that opened 2 blocks north of there--I think it's called Ascent.Cuisine is in fact kinda under Embassy, but it is the next door from Embassy entrance. Cuisine is more a lounge (at night at least) than a club
Prince of Jaipur being next to both of them.
Marquis De Sade
01-26-08, 14:19
Balikbayan its good for a year but you need to be with her or she needs to ask for it, someone who has done it will confirm.It is available if you are married to a Filipina, but you would need to come in the PI with her, ask for the visa and proove that you are married.
There is also other visas under SEC 13 where you can get one year visa but they have a quota per country.
From BI website, www.immigration.gov.ph:
13(A) The wife or the husband or the unmarried child under twenty-one years of age of a Philippine citizen, if accompanying or following to join such citizen;
Checklist of Requirements for Non-Quota Immigrant by Marriage Under Section 13(a)
Duly notarized letter of application by the Filipino spouse;
General Application Form duly accomplished and notarized (BI Form No. MCL-07-01);
NSO authenticated copy of Birth certificate of Filipino spouse;
NSO authenticated copy of the Marriage Contract of alien and Filipino spouse or authenticated by the Philippine embassy/consulate nearest to or in the place where the marriage was solemnized;
Bureau of Immigration (BI) Clearance Certificate; and Plain photocopy of passport of alien spouse showing dates of arrival and authorized stay.
Checklist of Requirements for Temporary Resident’s Visa Under Section 13(a), in relation to Law Instruction No. 33
Duly notarized letter of application by petitioning Filipino spouse;
General Application Form duly accomplished by the foreign spouse and notarized (BI Form No. MCL-07-01);
NSO authenticated copy of birth certificate of Filipino spouse;
NSO authenticated copy of the Marriage Contract of the alien and Filipino spouse, or if solemnized abroad, Marriage Contract authenticated by the Philippine embassy / consulate in or nearest the place where marriage was solemnized, with English translation if written in other foreign language;
Bureau of Immigration (BI) Clearance Certificate; and Plain photocopy of passport/s of alien spouse and/or children showing dates of arrival and authorized stay.
Cowboy Mike
02-04-08, 07:50
This is how I have to live after I told Honi ko I seen a roach near the back door yesterday morning.
Holy shat! 100% of the dishes, glasses and table ware were washed, wiped and put in the cool box.
I'd like to see her place back in Phil's
Cunning Stunt
02-14-08, 23:27
Sad to here about the recent death of this excellent actor.
I'm sure someone once told me he was half Filipino but the obit I read had him by a German American out of an Irish American.
Any ideas?
Fastpiston
02-25-08, 07:36
a scam has been in operation in the makati area recently. it works like this.
you are sitting with your wife / girlfriend or by yourself in a makati cafe or restaurant. a girl, who you have never seen before, accompanied by a guy approach you and the girl starts screaming and shouting at you making accusations of various kinds (you raped her, made her pregnant and she is married…. the accusation is largely immaterial). a few seconds later police, who were waiting around the corner, come and arrest you. of course they haul you off to a jail and then demand money, which is then no doubt spread to the scam artists as profit sharing. i am aware of two instances of this happening. no doubt a lot more foreigners have been victims of the scam that i have not heard about. the only solution to this is not to be nice and polite, but right shout back and accuse the girl of running a scam in makati and having done this repeatedly to many other foreigners in makati. if it happens to you, also inform your embassy of the scam as soon as it happens.
Sad to here about the recent death of this excellent actor.
I'm sure someone once told me he was half Filipino but the obit I read had him by a German American out of an Irish American.
Any ideas?You are thinking of Rob Schneider (Deuce Bigalow), his maternal grandmother was Filipina (according to wikipedia). Roy Scheider's most famous role was of course in Jaws. Understandable mistake - very close names!
a scam has been in operation in the makati area recently. it works like this.
you are sitting with your wife / girlfriend or by yourself in a makati cafe or restaurant. a girl, who you have never seen before, accompanied by a guy approach you and the girl starts screaming and shouting at you making accusations of various kinds (you raped her, made her pregnant and she is married…. the accusation is largely immaterial). a few seconds later police, who were waiting around the corner, come and arrest you. of course they haul you off to a jail and then demand money, which is then no doubt spread to the scam artists as profit sharing. i am aware of two instances of this happening. no doubt a lot more foreigners have been victims of the scam that i have not heard about. the only solution to this is not to be nice and polite, but right shout back and accuse the girl of running a scam in makati and having done this repeatedly to many other foreigners in makati. if it happens to you, also inform your embassy of the scam as soon as it happens.
hi fp is this first hand knowledge or hearsay?
if its true, makati will become an area to avoid, which is pretty difficult since it is the cbd of manila...
i once had a taxi driver in makati try to charge a gigantic fare & then proceed to scream the place down when i refused. a cop turned up, i gave the cop a my business card (with a local address) & a 'donation' for his trouble & the taxi driver was taken aside while i proceeded with my day. thats the closest i've ever come to being scammed in broad daylight.
happy mongering
amavida
SixteenVolt182
02-26-08, 19:26
I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions on flights to Manila.
I have been there 2 times and used orbitz both times for around $900 round trip. But now I see most flights are around $1400.
If anyone has any insights I would appreciated it. I live in Arizona.
Thanks
Fast Eddie 48
02-26-08, 23:12
Hi FP is this first hand knowledge or hearsay?
If its true, Makati will become an area to avoid, which is pretty difficult since it is the CBD of Manila...
I once had a taxi driver in Makati try to charge a gigantic fare & then proceed to scream the place down when i refused. A cop turned up, I gave the cop a my business card (with a local address) & a 'donation' for his trouble & the taxi driver was taken aside while i proceeded with my day. Thats the closest I've ever come to being scammed in broad daylight.
Happy Mongering,
AmavidaAmavida,
I think the whole manila mongering is going up fast from 7 yr ago when the enconomy is bad and the US dollar is strong you can get ST at LA cafe for 500 peso about 10 US back in the good old days and now is double, but manila is still a bargin compare to other country like Malayasia, Hong Kong and singapore and more korean with alot of cash are coming here driving the price up same as the Japanese are doing to Bangkok.
Fast Eddie 48
Hehe, once a girl in AC asked me to bring her a digital camera, it was last year October or November. She wanted to take pictures at home during Christmas and NYE before she comes back to AC. I had a small Kodak camera, 7MP or so.
Since I'm used to DSLR-pics I was pretty disappointed with the quality of the pics and I wanted to get rid of it already earlier. Suggested the girl, just take this one here, take your pics on Christmas and give it back to me afterwards.
So, she's back in AC as I will be next month also. Honestly, I don't want the camera back, I don't think I'll get the camera back, just want to hear which story pops up.
Keep you posted..... :D
Hey mates,
coming back to this posting, when I borrowed a little digital compact camera to a bargirl.
I've barfined her again during my February trip and
oooh wonder, surprise surprise!!
She had the camera, the charger, the memory card with her.
All ready to return it to me.
Not all bargirls tell grandmother-stories and BS and carry it immediately to the pawn shop.
Finally I told her to keep it since I'm more addicted to DSLR.
Cheers!
Hey mates, coming back to this posting, when I borrowed a little digital compact camera to a bargirl. I've barfined her again during my February trip and oooh wonder, surprise surprise!! She had the camera, the charger, the memory card with her. All ready to return it to me.
Not all bargirls tell grandmother-stories and BS and carry it immediately to the pawn shop. Finally I told her to keep it since I'm more addicted to DSLR.
Cheers!
Thanks for the update. You are correct on "Not all bargirls are bad!"
Robb
Hello,
I have been trawling through the forums for hours trying to decide where I could find a good combination of diving and girl action.
Frankly it's overwhelming. Looking at the reports it seems that in Manila, Cebu and Angeles City there is enough action for a lifetime. But matching this up with good diving doesn't look promising. So I'm appealing to any divers to offer their favorite locations. I'm Rescue certified with 200 dives, looking for really good diving. Not the 20 ft "resort course" dive, but in a location with plenty of nightlife.
Any assistance gratefully received.
Thanks in advance!
Traveler1234
03-03-08, 00:01
Hello,
I have been trawling through the forums for hours trying to decide where I could find a good combination of diving and girl action.
Any assistance gratefully received.
I can't help with specifics but one thought - find someone or even a two-some in Manila to take to the 'dive location'?
Hello,
I have been trawling through the forums for hours trying to decide where I could find a good combination of diving and girl action.
Frankly it's overwhelming. Looking at the reports it seems that in Manila, Cebu and Angeles City there is enough action for a lifetime. But matching this up with good diving doesn't look promising. So I'm appealing to any divers to offer their favorite locations. I'm Rescue certified with 200 dives, looking for really good diving. Not the 20 ft "resort course" dive, but in a location with plenty of nightlife.
Any assistance gratefully received.
Thanks in advance!
Try Puerto Galera on Mindoro Island. To get there, you take a 3 hour bus ride south from Manila to the port of Batangas, then catch a ferry across the sea. I don't know about the quality of the diving, but I did see both dive shops and girls in the bars/discos. I'm not a diver and I brought my own girl so I can't speak to the quality of the scene. Try searching the "other areas" thread for this one.
There's Moalboal on Cebu Island, but that seemed more like a bring your own scene when I was there as I don't know if there's any nightlife in this area. I saw several dive shops so I would think there would have to be something at night, but I did not have the opportunity to check that out.
I have heard there's diving not far from Davao so you might search that thread too.
Hello,
I have been trawling through the forums for hours trying to decide where I could find a good combination of diving and girl action.
Frankly it's overwhelming. Looking at the reports it seems that in Manila, Cebu and Angeles City there is enough action for a lifetime. But matching this up with good diving doesn't look promising. So I'm appealing to any divers to offer their favorite locations. I'm Rescue certified with 200 dives, looking for really good diving. Not the 20 ft "resort course" dive, but in a location with plenty of nightlife.
Any assistance gratefully received.
Thanks in advance!
Finrod's comments are accurate. I have not been there in a long time but did over 100 dives during the 7 years I lived there.
The diving in Sabang Mindoro is OK, not super but OK. Pink wall for a night dive is pretty damn good. Also there was a scuttled junk that is not bad. Contact Asia Divers for more info.
Reasonable night life and from what I have seen on ISG it has improved since I moved away. Most of the time I would take my own from Manila however.
Search "other areas" on the Philippines thread for some fairly recent updates.
Cannot comment much on Cebu as I only dived, not mongered there but there are some reasonably good dive sites there.
ES
GoodEnough
03-03-08, 04:06
I don't think there's any perfect location here that offers great diving and great night life. The closest may be Davao, where the diving is decent, but not great. There are lovely coral walls with good drift diving at 25-35 meters, with interesting tropicals, but no pelagics as these have all been killed and eaten. You can see turtles, barracudas and the (very) occasional whale shark, and there are a couple of wrecks at about 35 meters off Pearl Farm. As to the nightlife, it all depends what you're looking for, Davao has lots of P4P-type bars, but not nearly as many as Cebu or Manila, and it has dozens of venues in which you can hook up with non-pros.
For me, the diving in Cebu is better than in Davao, but the dive sites are an hour from the nightlife which is a total pain in the ass. In Davao, you can get from the center of the city to the dive boats in 15 minutes and you can go out just about every day.
In short, there are better dive locations than Davao and there are cities with more and better nightlife, but I think Davao is at or near the top of the list when it comes to combining the two.
GE
IgoforAsian
03-03-08, 08:13
I suggest BYOG (Bring your own girl).
As per my recent report in the Makati section, if you like your girl fair-skinned and English speaking, find her in Manila, then take her out to an exotic remote dive location. That way you get the best of both worlds. Combine 4-7 days of raucous nightlife in Manila, and while there, book an exotic getaway to a remote dive location, and with a little luck, you might find a girl you really like to share a girlfriend experience, or rather a honeymoon experience! As an added bonus, she can interpret for you and help you manage all the trike and banka rides, which can be a little bewildering.
Hello,
I have been trawling through the forums for hours trying to decide where I could find a good combination of diving and girl action.
Frankly it's overwhelming. Looking at the reports it seems that in Manila, Cebu and Angeles City there is enough action for a lifetime. But matching this up with good diving doesn't look promising. So I'm appealing to any divers to offer their favorite locations. I'm Rescue certified with 200 dives, looking for really good diving. Not the 20 ft "resort course" dive, but in a location with plenty of nightlife.
Any assistance gratefully received.
Thanks in advance!Hello Jet,
Here is a run down of some scuba diving spots in P. I. ;
PUERTO GALERA. Sabang---night diving available.
Canyons--challenging dive with split reef/strong currents.
Washing Machine (near Verde Island)--fierce currents, advanced divers only.
GIRLS. 6 discos/GRO bars, a few hundred girls. Big Apple Bar, many free lancers, lots of pressure to buy ladies' drinks (200 pesos each), GROs do not receive salary. Bar fine 2, 000 pesos; 1, 000p to the girl and 1, 000p to the bar.
Scuba diving *****
Muff diving ****
CEBU.
Bohol (island) 2 hours from Cebu.
Panglao Island Alona Beach, good reef and healthy coral, a lot of reef fish.
No girls here but you can go to Cebu and plenty of pussy there. In many ways, you will find the bar girls in Cebu very desirable and somewhat more attractive than the AC girls (JMHO).
Moalboal excellent reef and a shit load of marine life. Under the water, the vertical walls go down 60 metres, there are many ledges.
Not too much girl action, best to bring your own girl. Some free lancers go there from Cebu City, there are some small bars next to Last Filling Station but if there a lot of scuba divers you will have plenty of competition. Depends on what time of year you go.
Scuba diving *****
Muff diving (byop/go to Cebu) *****
DUMAGUETE (NEGROS ORIENTAL).
Apo Island many reefs and deep-water fish.
Dauin marine sanctuary.
There is a night life and girls are available but not like AC. Go to the university it is very big, go to the library and seek help from the girl students. Go to the Mall and try your luck, nothing ventured, nothing gained.
Scuba diving *****
Muff diving ***
On a more serious note; muff diving should be compatible with your scuba diving as long as you do not forget to take your mask off.
1. Hotel Options - I will be in Philippines for 5 nights arriving on a W at 11pm and returning early the following Monday morning. I am considering stay W-F at the Hyatt in Malate and then ST-SN at the Marriott Renaissance in Makati. Would appreciate input on whether this is a good plan or if better to just stay at one hotel. It hard to tell on maps how far apart Malate and Makati are. I was thinking the Hyatt since it has a pool and the other doesn't appear to have one.
2. Arriving at 11pm - By the time I get baggage, taxi to hotel (what should cost be?) will I have time to go out on W night? If so, what is the best option/venue?
3. Nightlife Location/Cost Factors - Reading the reports it seems like Makati is more high end than Malate so I am wondering what the current pricing structure is for say.
4 beers and a beatiful woman till morning. It seems that some bars require that the bar be paid to take out a girl, is it doable to just get there number and have them come over the following afternoon? Also, is the quality of the women that different between these two locations?
4. Daytime Activities - Some of the reports refer to the possibility of going to the malls and meeting girls during the day for afternoon fun? Does this really happen and if so what are the best locations to explore?
6. Daytime Activities/"Must See" Attractions - Are there any places to definitely not miss, ie, manila bayfront, manila zoo, etc?
Don Roberts
03-05-08, 06:49
sun-star (local english language newspaper) reports on a raid at firehouse bar in cebu. reports 3 ****d girls working there. the raid was reported to have been conducted in association with, ijm- the us government supported christian fundamentalist ngo that has been very active in conducting campaigns against commercial sex in cambodia.
a few weeks back viking was raided. i heard that a customer was angry because his "girlfriend" was not in the bar, having gone out on a barfine. went to the cops. viking is still open though.
i heard that there was a fire at eric the red bar. i may go out tonight to check it out. be very cautious. if a girl looks too young, give it a pass- the bars try to keep them out, because the managers & owners can be jailed, but the girl may have used a fake id to get the job.
Towelboy2010
03-05-08, 22:11
I have never bought a drink outside a bar in the Phils.
Can you buy a fifth of tequila and margarita mix there?
Where do you buy it?
Is it reasonably priced?
OR do I need to bring my own from home?
Here in PA you can only buy liquor at the State Store.
Thanks, Bob
Hello Towelboy,
You can buy tequila in most grocery stores and it is cheap. But if you want the good stuff, bring a bottle from home. Never looked for the mix but maybe get some powdered stuff from home. Or just take 1 part tequila, 1 part triple sec or contreau and 1 part lime or kalamansi juice and there you have it!
Have a great trip!
Wazza
Exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for posting.
I just got back from Cocos Island so ripping currents are OK.
60 meters is too deep for my computer...at least, it would complain.
Great guidance, I tip my hat.
Dive Safe and Often (day and night!)
Regards,
Jet
What is the best way to get from Manila to AC? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
SE Asia Joe
03-06-08, 09:39
Finrod's comments are accurate. I have not been there in a long time but did over 100 dives during the 7 years I lived there.
Cannot comment much on Cebu as I only dived, not mongered there but there are some reasonably good dive sites there.
ES
Damn Eagle - will you ever cease to amaze me??!! Not only a master monger - now I find out you're also a master diver. Damn!
I know which one is warmer - but which one is better?
SE Asia Joe
What is the best way to get from Manila to AC? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
It's walking distance, you can make it in a few days, no problem.
Don't forget good shoes and an umbrella.
If you need to get there faster you should buy a business aircraft, maybe from Bombardier, get yourself a pilots license and fly from Manila to Clark.
Will set you back a few millions only.
Or you just RTFF.
Cheers!
but which one is better?
SE Asia Joe
Yes :)
But now you have to guess how many of the 100 dives were muff and how many were SCUBA
ES
It's walking distance, you can make it in a few days, no problem.
Don't forget good shoes and an umbrella.
If you need to get there faster you should buy a business aircraft, maybe from Bombardier, get yourself a pilots license and fly from Manila to Clark.
Will set you back a few millions only.
Or you just RTFF.
Cheers!Hello Ekspat,
Now be nice. I suppose if you ask a silly question you get a silly answer.
Enjoy your day.
It takes 5 minutes to search the forum for the answers. There must be a billion advice over the years. I guess most of the senior members are tired of these questions.
Now be nice.
Always nice. Whats wrong with my answer?
Only tried to help. :D
Cheers!
South by SW 2
03-07-08, 09:01
On a more serious note; muff diving should be compatible with your scuba diving as long as you do not forget to take your mask off.
I've found the regulator to be a bigger obstacle. I switch to snorkel when I'm topside. Note that some women take it as a comment on their personal hygiene.
I'd also recommend using the muff diver down flag -- it's like a regular one but it has a pink stripe in a field of dark fur.
SbySW
Could someone confirm the current Visa entry requirements for the Philippines.
From memory the standard Visa was for 21 days with immigration officers at most provincial centres having some delegated authority to extend this by 39 days to a maximum of 60 days. Correct? Current cost for that extension?
It seems you definitely need to enter the Philippines with a confirmed departure ticket. Last year I was not allowed to board Cebu Pacific at Singapore unless I had an exit ticket from the Philippines; even though I had a return ticket ex Singapore to my home country.
What are the options, methods, for getting Philippines visa permits for longer than 60 days?
Could someone confirm the current Visa entry requirements for the Philippines.
From memory the standard Visa was for 21 days with immigration officers at most provincial centres having some delegated authority to extend this by 39 days to a maximum of 60 days. Correct? Current cost for that extension?
It seems you definitely need to enter the Philippines with a confirmed departure ticket. Last year I was not allowed to board Cebu Pacific at Singapore unless I had an exit ticket from the Philippines; even though I had a return ticket ex Singapore to my home country.
What are the options, methods, for getting Philippines visa permits for longer than 60 days?
Hi,
if you a tourist you can stay up to one year in the PI and can extend evry time and so, I think evry month after 6 month stay, before after evry 2 month if Im not mistaken.
After one year you have to leave the country and can enter again
if you decide to reside there , you can put 50 k US in a bank, show it and then you get resident visa.
if you work in Pi your boss wil help you, there are different types of visa.
if you marry a filipina you can also stay :D (not my piece of cake)
When Im in AC I go to kokomoz, they have a travel agent inside, I give my passportpay 2k somethinn in pesos and get it back in 2 days, they do the visa extention and you dont bothered to go urself to the imigration......
Hope that helps a bit
Blink
Starchild2012
03-08-08, 13:38
Could someone confirm the current Visa entry requirements for the Philippines.
From memory the standard Visa was for 21 days with immigration officers at most provincial centres having some delegated authority to extend this by 39 days to a maximum of 60 days. Correct? Current cost for that extension?
It seems you definitely need to enter the Philippines with a confirmed departure ticket. Last year I was not allowed to board Cebu Pacific at Singapore unless I had an exit ticket from the Philippines; even though I had a return ticket ex Singapore to my home country.
What are the options, methods, for getting Philippines visa permits for longer than 60 days?
Blink is right..don't worry too much on Visa...however, get a return ticket and cancel it when you come to Philippines...you can extend your visa every two months or so..some times its 41 days for different countries.
you have to pay 2300 or 2600 pesos to get the extension..get hold of a travel agent ..they will do it for you...
the immigration just wants your pesos every other month and they are ok with it
Could someone confirm the current Visa entry requirements for the Philippines.
From memory the standard Visa was for 21 days with immigration officers at most provincial centres having some delegated authority to extend this by 39 days to a maximum of 60 days. Correct? Current cost for that extension?
What are the options, methods, for getting Philippines visa permits for longer than 60 days?
Yes you can apply for an extension upon arrival to 59 days, which costs about $60 USD. Second extension is around $100 USD. As Blink mentions, most travel agencies can handle extensions for a small fee.
What is the best way to get from Manila to AC? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Hi Elvis, as stated in many posts, the most comfortable & convenient way is to get a hotel car or van. Cost around 2500 -2700 each way.
Taxi is slightly dodgy & a little less comfortable.
There is a bus which people on a budget like but i cant stand.
For more detailed info use the thread search.
Welcome & Happy Mongering
Amavida
Could someone confirm the current Visa entry requirements for the Philippines.
From memory the standard Visa was for 21 days with immigration officers at most provincial centres having some delegated authority to extend this by 39 days to a maximum of 60 days. Correct? Current cost for that extension?
It seems you definitely need to enter the Philippines with a confirmed departure ticket. Last year I was not allowed to board Cebu Pacific at Singapore unless I had an exit ticket from the Philippines; even though I had a return ticket ex Singapore to my home country.
What are the options, methods, for getting Philippines visa permits for longer than 60 days?Hi KK.
You get a 21 day visa waiver for free on arrival. As of 22nd. January, 2008 a no visa required temporary visitor arriving in the Philippines who wishes to stay more than 21 days but less than 59 days may apply for a visa upon arrival at the airport upon entry. The cost is P3,030 and this includes express and legal research fee.
What is the maximum extension of stay that can be granted?
Foreigners holding temporary visitors' visa pursuant to Philippine Immigration Act of 1940 and aliens under E.O. 408 may extend their stay in the Philippines every 2 months for a total stay of 16 months. Extension of stay after 16 months, up to 24 months need the approval of the Chief of the Immigration Regulation Division. Extension of stay after 24 months need the approval of the Commissioner.
After 6 months in the Philippines you need permission to leave in the form of Immigration Clearence Certificate. It costs P1,000 plus you have to provide 2 (2" x 2") passport style photos and your thumb print. This process takes about 2 hours at the Bureau of Immigration.
Requirement for admission and application of visa waiver is a valid passport (at least 6 months beyond the period of stay), a return/onward ticket and sufficient funds.
Total cost of visa extension in a year is approximately P25,000 plus agent's fees.
If you want to arrange extension yourself, make sure you are wearing long pants and shoes as the Immigration Office won't let you in if you are wearing shorts.
Best of luck, have fun.
Saw this report at another forum.
"A 35 year old Brit has fallen foul of adultery laws in the Philippines
His filopina girlfriend whom he got pregnant was separated from her filopino husband but NOT divorced
Her bitter ex is believed to have tipped off authorities where adultery can be punished with 7 years in jail.
He wants to sue the couple for £6000
The couple were arrested while staying with the girls parents on Sunday
The couple have paid a £470 bond and hope to get bail when it clears.
He met the girl on a internet chatroom."
Is this a common scam in the Philipines?
Is it less likely to happen with bargirls rather than an internet acquaintance?
Cunning Stunt
03-14-08, 13:47
Expect the country to grind to a halt Sunday morning as most of the male population position themselves in front of the nearest TV and won't be budged. Don't panic as its only the Philippines favourite son Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao in his latest fight against the Mexican Marquez. Just take this into account if you have any unavoidable travel plans as most Pinoy taxi drivers seem to be boxing fanatics! Should be a good and bruising fight (they drew in their last encounter) but the projected possible bout against Ricky Hatton. Now that really would be something! Anyway Pacman for president. Don't laugh. If he carries on winning like he has it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that he might run for elected office and it was not too long ago that they elected their favourite actor! God forbid.
Saw this report at another forum.
"A 35 year old Brit has fallen foul of adultery laws in the Philippines
His filopina girlfriend whom he got pregnant was separated from her filopino husband but NOT divorced
Her bitter ex is believed to have tipped off authorities where adultery can be punished with 7 years in jail.
He wants to sue the couple for £6000
The couple were arrested while staying with the girls parents on Sunday
The couple have paid a £470 bond and hope to get bail when it clears.
He met the girl on a internet chatroom."
Is this a common scam in the Philipines?
Is it less likely to happen with bargirls rather than an internet acquaintance?
This is old news. It was discussed in these forums a little while ago.
If true, he either really pissed someone off or fell for a one in a million situation. Either way the best thing to do would be pay the 'express fee' & quietly get the hell out of there.
Cheers
Amavida
Not sure you can call this a "scam". A couple of weeks ago there was a prominent story in the paper about a husband going to the police about his wife's adultry. The hotel opened the door and caught them in the act.
I remember being surprised that 1) this is in the paper at all, 2) the hotel opened the door 3) there is a law about such a thing....
The offenders were arrested -- both of them Filipinos btw.
Saw this report at another forum.
"A 35 year old Brit has fallen foul of adultery laws in the Philippines
His filopina girlfriend whom he got pregnant was separated from her filopino husband but NOT divorced
Her bitter ex is believed to have tipped off authorities where adultery can be punished with 7 years in jail.
He wants to sue the couple for £6000
The couple were arrested while staying with the girls parents on Sunday
The couple have paid a £470 bond and hope to get bail when it clears.
He met the girl on a internet chatroom."
Is this a common scam in the Philipines?
Is it less likely to happen with bargirls rather than an internet acquaintance?
Expect the country to grind to a halt Sunday morning as most of the male population position themselves in front of the nearest TV and won't be budged. Don't panic as its only the Philippines favourite son Manny 'Pacman' Pacquiao in his latest fight against the Mexican Marquez. Just take this into account if you have any unavoidable travel plans as most Pinoy taxi drivers seem to be boxing fanatics! Should be a good and bruising fight (they drew in their last encounter) but the projected possible bout against Ricky Hatton. Now that really would be something! Anyway Pacman for president. Don't laugh. If he carries on winning like he has it is not beyond the bounds of possibility that he might run for elected office and it was not too long ago that they elected their favourite actor! God forbid.
He already ran for election for the Congress seat from his district (General Santos City) about a year ago. He lost to the incumbent in spite of his popularity and it wasn't that close. So it's not a given that he will win if he tries again.
Philippines Black Listed Advice,
I am very paranoid because I meet a girl who worked in congress in Manila, I paid for her to come to borocay, we had a great time, but we argued alot and she sometimes joked she could Black List me, which I just laugh, and said good i can stay here forever.
But now she ignores me on msn messenger, and im paranoid im blacklisted, and that if I return to manila, when I arrive in the airport, they might say I am Banned.
What can I do? Maybe I worry too much?
Philippines Black Listed Advice,
I am very paranoid because I meet a girl who worked in congress in Manila, I paid for her to come to borocay, we had a great time, but we argued alot and she sometimes joked she could Black List me, which I just laugh, and said good i can stay here forever.
But now she ignores me on msn messenger, and im paranoid im blacklisted, and that if I return to manila, when I arrive in the airport, they might say I am Banned.
What can I do? Maybe I worry too much?First, how do you know that she works for/in the congress?
Second, what could she blacklist you for? For fucking her or did you promise her something? Maybe she was trying to scare you into a LTR???
Sometimes I laugh when I see reports like this. I think of the marine that took the girl from the bar, fucked her while his friends watch and cheered, and then dumped her on the side of the road. What did he think would come of dumping her out of the van? I think he got what he deserved.
Freebies are great, unless you add the drama. As said many times on this forum, sometimes it is easier to go to the bar and pay them on the way out of the room:D
I wouldn't lose any sleep over it.
Robb
im paranoid im blacklisted, and that if I return to manila, when I arrive in the airport, they might say I am Banned.
What can I do? Maybe I worry too much?
Nothing but hot air! Just take it easy, man!
Cheers - Hesekiels
Thanks for your reply,
I see her congress card, that's how I know. But she only had low level security clearance.
I'm just scared to go back now, I never meet a girl with such a bad atitude as her,
I never thought by the end of the holiday we would hate each other so much.
Never again will i pay for a girls flights, and hotel.
Is it easy for her to say to the police, if i ever come back i must go to jail?
OMG, listen how paranoid I am! lol
GoodEnough
03-17-08, 08:45
Lots of pissed off women threaten lots of scared white guys with this crap. It's mostly nonsense, and you shouldn't worry so much. First, it's not that easy to have someone blacklisted from the the country. Not only do you need serious clout (which I doubt she has) but there have to be formal, provable charges. Second, there would likely be a formal notification, from the Government of the Philippines to the government of your country and you would likely be notified.
Come on back with no worries.
GE
Philippines Black Listed Advice,
I am very paranoid because I meet a girl who worked in congress in Manila, I paid for her to come to borocay, we had a great time, but we argued alot and she sometimes joked she could Black List me, which I just laugh, and said good i can stay here forever.
But now she ignores me on msn messenger, and im paranoid im blacklisted, and that if I return to manila, when I arrive in the airport, they might say I am Banned.
What can I do? Maybe I worry too much?
So you had a lovers tiff & she has an overinflated sense of her importance (common among petty officials).
There are two aspects to this.
Firstly I think she's all [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) & wind bravado & highly doubt she has either the ability or the motivation to do what she claimed.
but...
Second, you're a foreigner in a third world country so even the lowliest street ho can make trouble for you if aggravated enough. This troble is usually of the uniformed bribe requiring kind..
My advice?
For christsakkes DONT contact her again (I'd even change my Hotmail email & MSN IM I.D. to avoid her. If she does contact you, be nice & dont mention coming back, EVER. In other words AVOID her. Im not telling you to run away with your tail between your legs like a coward, Im telling you to be sensible & stay clear of her as she is potential trouble.
I very much doubt you will have any trouble coming back here but you should tread carefully in regards to her.
Amavida
Rubberyman
03-18-08, 05:08
Hi Asheron,
Here is something that may ease your mind - although it will cost a few pesos.
Just apply to the Philippines' embassy in your country for a visa for an extended visit <I>before</I> you go next time.
If they refuse the extended visa, then she has made successful trouble for you. If they grant it, it will cost a small amount, but you will know for certain that she has not got the power to blacklist you.
Either way, you will know where you stand. The small amount of pesos might be worth your peace of mind.
Guys,
Thank you so much for replies,
Rubbery, that visa idea, sounds good, so they embassy will know if I'm black listed?
Hi all
Been into the P4P scene for many years now. Haven't posted here before and thought I'd start with a question regarding a good site I frequently visit called [Link deleted by Admin].
Anyone into the phils secene would probably be aware of this site and its not bad to keep away the depression from asian withdrawal between visits.
Anyway for the question.
Does anyone know where this guy gets these girls from? Majority are from the phils but they dont seem to be the run of the mill bar girls in Makati or girls from AC. They're possibly students in Manila, if so how do you find these types of girls without getting the run around?This guy is on to something good and obviously keeps any hint of location out of each scene. (dont blame the lucky bugger :P)
Has anyone here ever P4P'd with any of the girls or know of places where these types of cuties can be found?
Cheers,
Dino
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Hawaiiflyo
03-25-08, 17:18
I hope I am posting in the right area. I am planning my first trip to Manila this summer and need some guidance. I am stationed in Okinawa and I frequent the RLDs (Yoshihara & Maehara) rather frequently. I am not too fond of the prices of the soapies in Oki (Tsuji District). I also do not go to jack shacks because the prices are basically the same as the RLDs. I've only used an ES once and I thought it was good but rather high. I tend to stay away from the philipina "juicy girls" over here also because of the love motel fees and outrageous mama san barfines. But I have messed around with philipinas over here outside the bars. So I guess I am looking for FS and/or BBBJs in RLDs for a reasonable price. I have thought about trying ES again because I will be staying in a hotel, but I would rather go to the services. I've been reading around the Phillipines forums and you guys have posted a wealth of information. I still feel I need some guidance, so I don't get ripped off. Also the Phillipines is freakin' huge compared to what's available in Okinawa. I am all ears for suggestions, where to stay, etc. (I haven't booked tickets, hotel accommodations). I was recently looking at Bayview Park Hotel. You guys ever stay there? It's on Roxas Blvd really close to the U. S. Embassy. I heard it was no smoking though. I guess I'm looking for a 3-5 star hotel that is nice for the price. I plan to check out Makati and maybe Angeles City if I have time (I'll save Cebu for my second trip). I've also heard from a couple of friends about the scams and rip-offs (like the cabbies over-charging) which the Okinawans never do. One friend even told me about this kid that tried to pick pocket him and failed. Any advice you guys give would be great.
Sorry Guys I cannot show the link to the site I made reference too in my post however the overall theme of the site is exploited teens in asia. Sure most guys here know the site.
Hi all
Been into the P4P scene for many years now. Haven't posted here before and thought I'd start with a question regarding a good site I frequently visit called [Link deleted by Admin].
Anyone into the phils secene would probably be aware of this site and its not bad to keep away the depression from asian withdrawal between visits.
Anyway for the question.
Does anyone know where this guy gets these girls from? Majority are from the phils but they dont seem to be the run of the mill bar girls in Makati or girls from AC. They're possibly students in Manila, if so how do you find these types of girls without getting the run around?This guy is on to something good and obviously keeps any hint of location out of each scene. (dont blame the lucky bugger :P)
Has anyone here ever P4P'd with any of the girls or know of places where these types of cuties can be found?
Cheers,
Dino
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HornyGeorge
03-27-08, 22:02
Bayview Park is OK, but you can do better. Being that close to the Embassy is a turn off, as are the aggressive touts. You are better off to stay by EDSA and Roxas in Pasay City. Try to book Copacabana Hotel your first night, but then check out the cluster of love motels directly behind Copacabana.
Use big city common sense, and NEVER get into a taxi until the driver agrees to accept "metro" (meter). Make sure he hits the button and meter starts at 30.
Has any one stayed at this Hotel? It is well priced and would like to know what others have thought of it that have stayed there. Is is Monger friendly?
Hawaiiflyo
03-28-08, 16:18
Thanks for the info HG,
I'm looking into Copacabana Hotel now. It seems like a good location being that it is close to the tram and bus terminals. A couple more questions...Have you guys ever rented a car in Manila? Would it be difficult because of traffic? Or should I just commute with taxis, jeepneys, buses, etc. I see that there are car rental places available. Also, I will be traveling in and out of Manila for 21 days and my cell phone will not have service. A friend of mine said I can go to a store like Globe Mobile and buy like a cheap phone and a pre-paid card for my duration...But I'm not sure about the terms & conditions behind this. Have you guys ever bought a cell phone in the PI? I will feel somewhat "naked" without my cell phone.
Bayview Park is OK, but you can do better. Being that close to the Embassy is a turn off, as are the aggressive touts. You are better off to stay by EDSA and Roxas in Pasay City. Try to book Copacabana Hotel your first night, but then check out the cluster of love motels directly behind Copacabana.
...Have you guys ever rented a car in Manila? Would it be difficult because of traffic? Or should I just commute with taxis, jeepneys, buses, etc. I see that there are car rental places available.
Hi HF, Unless you have a very good reason to need to hire a car I would advise you to forget it. Taxi's are the way to go, especially if you're new in town & won't know your way around. The traffic is horrendous 20 hours a day.
Also, I will be traveling in and out of Manila for 21 days and my cell phone will not have service. A friend of mine said I can go to a store like Globe Mobile and buy like a cheap phone and a pre-paid card for my duration...But I'm not sure about the terms & conditions behind this. Have you guys ever bought a cell phone in the PI? I will feel somewhat "naked" without my cell phone.
HF you can buy a simple cell phone for P2000 or so at stalls everywhere.
Put a local SIM card in it. The SIM cards are the same as what you would know as a 'Prepaid' SIM card back in your home country. Most girls prefer to use Smart because its very competitive company on price. Globe has arguably a little better coverage. Buy a "Smart Buddy" sim, purchase P100 or P500 'load' (credit) & start txt'ing. Due to the call tariff structure here EVERYBODY txt's instead of voice calls.
When you go back home you can simply throw away the sim, put it in your wallet for next time or give it to a GF as you leave.
AV
Hi Guys,
I am planning my next adventure to Manila and I wanted to see if anyone wanted to hook up in the LA Café area around April 17-20?
I am planning to hit LA Café at night and spend my days at the Robinsons mall seeing what kind of action I can get myself into. I would love to have a co-conspirator to work with.
Also, I am thinking of staying at the Hyatt hotel and casino in Ermita. Does anyone have an opinion of this place and is it girl friendly?
Also, it sounds as if there are other places near LA café that are good for the hunt, can anyone provide a couple of options? I generally prefer an upscale place even if I have to pay a little more….please advise.
I promise to provide world class photos to return the favor!
Professional
03-29-08, 07:00
What would you do if you had 1 million dollars and want to retire?
Say your in your mid 40's and if you were to cash out all your assets you would have 1 million dollars. how would you live?
GoodEnough
03-29-08, 09:52
Hi Guys,
I am planning my next adventure to Manila and I wanted to see if anyone wanted to hook up in the LA Café area around April 17-20?
I am planning to hit LA Café at night and spend my days at the Robinsons mall seeing what kind of action I can get myself into. I would love to have a co-conspirator to work with.
Also, I am thinking of staying at the Hyatt hotel and casino in Ermita. Does anyone have an opinion of this place and is it girl friendly?
Also, it sounds as if there are other places near LA café that are good for the hunt, can anyone provide a couple of options? I generally prefer an upscale place even if I have to pay a little more….please advise.
I promise to provide world class photos to return the favor!
There are lots of options available to you and I do not know them all, but the street touts who crawl all over the neighborhood can recommend some places. Among the better known alternatives, you could try Amazonia, just up the block and to your left, or G-Point (my personal favorite) which is on Padre Faura. Directly across the street from LA is another smaller bar that's gone through a number of names but is now an adjunct o LA, though I've never seen many people there. Then there are a couple of strip bars between LA and Amazonia, all with barfines and willing women to take away.
Enjoy!
Wicked Roger
03-29-08, 11:49
you could try Amazonia, just up the block and to your left, or G-Point (my personal favorite) which is on Padre Faura. .
Enjoy!
Was in Amazonia recently nothing much to speak of, the band is OK the lead singer v tasty but vrey few girls and punters. G Point is nice.
There are a lot of things I like about Copacabana, but it feels kind of isolated, but I'm not sure why. Maybe the fact that it is on such a huge road.
These days you can walk to the Mall of Asia from the hotel.
It is close to EDSA, the airport, between Ermita and Makati, has a pool, close to a very colorful market.....but somehow I still prefer to stay in Ermita.
Copa is my choice if I have late or early flights...but is probably also a good choice if you have a flight around rush hour.
X
Thanks for the info HG,
I'm looking into Copacabana Hotel now. It seems like a good location being that it is close to the tram and bus terminals. A couple more questions...Have you guys ever rented a car in Manila? Would it be difficult because of traffic? Or should I just commute with taxis, jeepneys, buses, etc. I see that there are car rental places available. Also, I will be traveling in and out of Manila for 21 days and my cell phone will not have service. A friend of mine said I can go to a store like Globe Mobile and buy like a cheap phone and a pre-paid card for my duration...But I'm not sure about the terms & conditions behind this. Have you guys ever bought a cell phone in the PI? I will feel somewhat "naked" without my cell phone.
Hi,
I have not been to the Philippines since 1989 but I just booked tickets to visit again. I'm planning on spending 2 weeks on Boracay, 1 week in the Cebu area, and 1 week up north in the hundred islands/Banaue area.
Back in 1989 I was not in to the paid sex stuff, since then I've changed - Is it possible to find girls on Boracay that are on the take? I will not be able to bring them back to my hotel. Are there massage places to visit?
Suggestions appreciated on how and where to find girls (in a discrete way) on Boracay, hundred islands, and Banaue are.
P
...Is it possible to find girls on Boracay that are on the take?
No, its BYO essentially. Some guys have got lucky. If a Philppina girl asks you to take her Boracay its to get you AWAY from women hehehe ;)
I will not be able to bring them back to my hotel. Are there massage places to visit?
No, on Boracay take them to your hotel or nothing.
I get the impression you will have a wife/GF already in tow & wish to sneak out for a root?
If thats the case forget it on Boracay. make the best of it by having a romantic holiday with her & screwing her brains out instead.
Suggestions appreciated on how and where to find girls (in a discrete way) on Boracay, hundred islands, and Banaue are.
P
Dude if you are going to mainstream tourist areas with a wife its gonna be very difficult because these areas don't cater to P4P.
Best option is to try to organise a shopping spree for the little woman in Manila or Cebu. Then you can sneak out for a shag while she depletes your credit card or rests up while she plans to do so.
Im making a lot of assumptions here.. I may be way off.
AV
What would you do if you had 1 million dollars and want to retire?
Say your in your mid 40's and if you were to cash out all your assets you would have 1 million dollars. how would you live?
I raised my hand first teacher so let me:
Put half of that in a CD and immediately move to somewhere like the PIs
Rent a small property.
Figure the interest I'll be making yearly into rent, utilities and food and live modestly.
Use the other half for mongering.
If I barfine 5 girls a week, rest on Sat and Sun. At let say 2000p a pop or around 45 usd. 45x5=225, 225x52weeks= $11,700 a year for mongering
This will last me around 40 years
Let just say that if I configure the worst case of inflation into all this, I might die with nothing left which would be just a perfect plan, leaving nothing to nobody.
Suggestions appreciated on how and where to find girls (in a discrete way) on Boracay, hundred islands, and Banaue are.
PHi P,
AV is correct about Boracay-BYOG. I was there last year and I had a girl with me. I was approached by some touts who asked me if the girl was interested in going with some desperate mongers. There were some free lancers (with attitude) but they were demanding high prices, something like P4,000 st. With respect, may I ask why would you want to spend two weeks in Boracay? I stayed there three nights and four days and I had seen just about all there was to see. JMHO.
BTW, Banaue has no nightlife,no banks but the hotels change money. Many of the girls from Northern Luzon are working in AC or Manila.
Have a good trip, stay safe.
Hi all,
I will be in boracay for 10 days in May and I don't really know what to expect. After reading a few reports I saw mixed information. So many said that it is BYO but this is not really my way, to be stuck with somebody. There are reports of a guy.Grubert- on the another forum forum that gives a completely different picture of the island, plenty of opportunities. Are the prices so high? And what about some good massage place were they make you happy, maybe one of those beach masseuses in the privacy of the hotel. Will see, any other opinion?
Take care
I think you've already got all the answers you need. They ARE there, but probably not worth it. You'll pay quite a bit more to take one with you, but it would be better value --- assuming you pick the right one.
I had some luck just chatting up some of the staff here and there. By luck I mean some flirting and exchange of contact info, but I was there only two days and didn't have time for followup. I took a picture of two couples on the beach and then got the email to send the picture...still in contact with one of the little middle class cuties.
I spent three days on Borocay and got bored...even though I was with a group of American/ Japanese / Filipino friends.
I'd say find a beach out of Cebu city.
X
Hi,
I have not been to the Philippines since 1989 but I just booked tickets to visit again. I'm planning on spending 2 weeks on Boracay, 1 week in the Cebu area, and 1 week up north in the hundred islands/Banaue area.
Back in 1989 I was not in to the paid sex stuff, since then I've changed - Is it possible to find girls on Boracay that are on the take? I will not be able to bring them back to my hotel. Are there massage places to visit?
Suggestions appreciated on how and where to find girls (in a discrete way) on Boracay, hundred islands, and Banaue are.
P
I think you've already got all the answers you need. They ARE there, but probably not worth it. .....
I'd say find a beach out of Cebu city.
XThanks X Man, Wazza88, and Amavida for this update on Boracay action. Yes you are assuming right I'm bringing wife (and kids actually)...I know I'm twisted and probably need years of therapy but based on your info perhaps I should shorten the Boracay visit to a week and add a week to the Cebu area. I’ve understood that there are no girl bars but hopefully I will find a nice young freelancer or two?
If I find a girl, how much should I pay for an hour of fun?
P
Hawaiiflyo
03-30-08, 16:18
Thanks for the info, Amavida and X-Man.
Do you guys know if any of these bars are any good? (not sure if these are shut-down, my resources might be a little dated):
P Burgos
Bananas
Cuddles
Dimples
Firehouse
Ivory
Jools
Magambo
Papillon
Wild West West
Wangho6969
03-30-08, 17:50
Try the Executive hotel I believe it's on mabini. If you book it thru Kokamos via email they get a screaming deal for you. Last time i was there it cost me 1600 pesos. It has very decent rooms, is girl friendly and is close to all the action in Ermita district.
Good luck and happy pooning, wangho6969
Hi Guys,
I am planning my next adventure to Manila and I wanted to see if anyone wanted to hook up in the LA Café area around April 17-20?
I am planning to hit LA Café at night and spend my days at the Robinsons mall seeing what kind of action I can get myself into. I would love to have a co-conspirator to work with.
Also, I am thinking of staying at the Hyatt hotel and casino in Ermita. Does anyone have an opinion of this place and is it girl friendly?
Also, it sounds as if there are other places near LA café that are good for the hunt, can anyone provide a couple of options? I generally prefer an upscale place even if I have to pay a little more….please advise.
I promise to provide world class photos to return the favor!
Professional
03-30-08, 18:22
I raised my hand first teacher so let me:
Put half of that in a CD and immediately move to somewhere like the PIs
Rent a small property.
Figure the interest I'll be making yearly into rent, utilities and food and live modestly.
Use the other half for mongering.
If I barfine 5 girls a week, rest on Sat and Sun. At let say 2000p a pop or around 45 usd. 45x5=225, 225x52weeks= $11,700 a year for mongering.
This will last me around 40 years
Let just say that if I configure the worst case of inflation into all this, I might die with nothing left which would be just a perfect plan, leaving nothing to nobody.Thanks!
I had some ideals but I want to hear from the rest of you to see what other people thoughts are.
I was more think in terms of buying a condo (about 150, 000 US dollars) leaving 850, 000 to live on assume I live 40 additional years I can spend aprox 3, 500 a month before my 850, 000 reaches 0. This is assuming a 4% return on my money.
But what if I live longer?
Rubberyman
03-31-08, 02:44
Hi Professional,
While your cheapest option may be to get a condo - I would most strongly urge that you wait a few years before you do. If you buy a place and then find you don't want to live there, or the dollar goes south even more than it does, or you find somewhere better, you will regret it big time. Also, once you are there, and you have checked out a few places to find your ideal location, you will also find that from time to time there are bargains out there. ie, be careful and cautious and you might find it not only cheaper, but you will avoid the risks I mentioned above.
Also, if you rent for a year or so, and you are there 'long time' you might find that you have yourself say three or four 'girlfriends' who will provide you with the entertainment and variety you need, and on exchange of medical tests will provide a much safer service - BUT at much much cheaper than the 9,000 P per week that you are looking at. (Of course you can still visit the bars for further variety if you like - I just bet that if you have three 'girlfriends' you won't need to do it all that often). ;)
Hmmm, so you need to sneak away for a quicky? Are you flying into Manila?
If you stay in Makati MM (lots of shopping opportunities for the Sig. Other), you could then go to Burgos Street. There are also some nice MNL waterfront hotels (Diamond is expensive - great pool, Bayview (small pool), Miramar (art deco, no pool) and then you could go to the Ermita bars.
Then on to Cebu. I wouldn't usually recommend the Mactan resorts, but you can find clubs on Mactan (is the Mermaid still there?), and there are more in Cebu proper. So stay a few days there. Another option is Marco Polo, up the hill. I'm suggesting these places because they are relatively isolated and you need a taxi to get somewhere...so, you get caught in a traffic jam on your way back from SM mall, which explains your late return.
Once you get to those other places, it might be difficult. If you can slip away, ask the taxi driver or tricycle triver. Actually, that might be your best choice in the cities too since you are likely looking for convenience. I don't know much about the casas, but I think they have beds on the premises.
Prices depend on where you end up, but a Cebu street girl could be as low as 500 pesos, pulling a girl out of a club could be 2000-4000.
X
Thanks X Man, Wazza88, and Amavida for this update on Boracay action. Yes you are assuming right I'm bringing wife (and kids actually)...I know I'm twisted and probably need years of therapy but based on your info perhaps I should shorten the Boracay visit to a week and add a week to the Cebu area. I’ve understood that there are no girl bars but hopefully I will find a nice young freelancer or two?
If I find a girl, how much should I pay for an hour of fun?
P
Fifty Fifty
03-31-08, 04:42
Thanks for the info, Amavida and X-Man.
Do you guys know if any of these bars are any good? (not sure if these are shut-down, my resources might be a little dated):
P Burgos
Bananas
Cuddles
Dimples
Firehouse
Ivory
Jools
Magambo
Papillon
Wild West West
Hi, as previously stated in recent reports, some of them mine, all the Bars on Burgos are basically the same, reasonable to good standard of girls and drinks prices are 150 (SM beer) and 350 (Lady Drink) with Barfines at 3500 etc etc.
The cheaper end of the scale is the Wild West Group with lower Barfines, and IMHO lower standards of girls too.
The higher end of the scale is Joules/Davino, which has ridiculous drink prices of 350 (SM Beer) and 750 (Lady Drink) with no Barfine possible ???
Most guys in the know will give Burgos a miss and use one of the many alternatives.
Cheers, F/Fifty
FireWalker
03-31-08, 11:20
Hmmm, so you need to sneak away for a quicky? Are you flying into Manila?
If you stay in Makati MM (lots of shopping opportunities for the Sig. Other), you could then go to Burgos Street. There are also some nice MNL waterfront hotels (Diamond is expensive - great pool, Bayview (small pool), Miramar (art deco, no pool) and then you could go to the Ermita bars.
Then on to Cebu. I wouldn't usually recommend the Mactan resorts, but you can find clubs on Mactan (is the Mermaid still there?), and there are more in Cebu proper. So stay a few days there. Another option is Marco Polo, up the hill. I'm suggesting these places because they are relatively isolated and you need a taxi to get somewhere...so, you get caught in a traffic jam on your way back from SM mall, which explains your late return.
Once you get to those other places, it might be difficult. If you can slip
away, ask the taxi driver or tricycle triver. Actually, that might be your best choice in the cities too since you are likely looking for convenience. I don't know much about the casas, but I think they have beds on the premises.
Prices depend on where you end up, but a Cebu street girl could be as low as 500 pesos, pulling a girl out of a club could be 2000-4000.
X
Avoid Mactan bars, do not waste your time. They generally try to rip you off with attempts to charge 10,000 pesos for a barfine. Stay with the Cebu Bars. I haven't been to the Mandaue area bars, so I couldn't say.
FireWalker
03-31-08, 11:27
Thanks!
I had some ideals but I want to hear from the rest of you to see what other people thoughts are.
I was more think in terms of buying a condo (about 150, 000 US dollars) leaving 850, 000 to live on assume I live 40 additional years I can spend aprox 3, 500 a month before my 850, 000 reaches 0. This is assuming a 4% return on my money.
But what if I live longer?
Why buy anything, when you can rent on your interest? The only reason you really would own a condo in the US is because you might have appreciation and the interest write-off. You can pretty much count on neither in the Phils.
You could rent an incredible house for around $1000 a month in Cebu or AC.
FireWalker
03-31-08, 11:41
Hi all,
I will be in boracay for 10 days in May and I don't really know what to expect. After reading a few reports I saw mixed information. So many said that it is BYO but this is not really my way, to be stuck with somebody. There are reports of a guy.Grubert- on the another forum forum that gives a completely different picture of the island, plenty of opportunities. Are the prices so high? And what about some good massage place were they make you happy, maybe one of those beach masseuses in the privacy of the hotel. Will see, any other opinion?
Take care
BYOB, definitely, or even two. Yea, there are some girls there and they didn't even look good and/or old enough in a dark bar. He either has very low standards or got really lucky. I suspect the worst scenario. Find a girl that makes you laugh and take her. Traveling with a filipina is great. She will take care of packing, etc. If you get bored don't stay long. Personally, I always like Boracay. I've stayed for 9 days before and never enjoyed getting bored more.
Stay cheap there, too. You will be disappointed at higher end places. If you stay at a place like Cucomangas or Dave's Strawhat Inn, you blend into the vibe of the island more. You can't be disappointed because you aren't spending too much. Don't stay directly on Beach, the hawkers will drive you nuts. Stay on the other side of the service road.
FireWalker
03-31-08, 11:45
Hi Professional,
While your cheapest option may be to get a condo - I would most strongly urge that you wait a few years before you do. If you buy a place and then find you don't want to live there, or the dollar goes south even more than it does, or you find somewhere better, you will regret it big time. Also, once you are there, and you have checked out a few places to find your ideal location, you will also find that from time to time there are bargains out there. ie, be careful and cautious and you might find it not only cheaper, but you will avoid the risks I mentioned above.
Also, if you rent for a year or so, and you are there 'long time' you might find that you have yourself say three or four 'girlfriends' who will provide you with the entertainment and variety you need, and on exchange of medical tests will provide a much safer service - BUT at much much cheaper than the 9,000 P per week that you are looking at. (Of course you can still visit the bars for further variety if you like - I just bet that if you have three 'girlfriends' you won't need to do it all that often). ;)
Cheapest option is renting in the long run and being able to move should the shit hit the fan or you get bored.
You could also rent more than one place at a time. A place by the beach for part of the year, a place in AC, etc.
Renting gives you flexibility esp. with an exit strategy.
Hi Gilberto,
I will be in boracay for 10 days in May and I don't really know what to expect.
Its a small tropical Island in the Philippines much favored as a FAMILY holiday destination. I take the wife & kid there for a holiday. I take girlfriends there for a shag-a-thon. I dont go there to FIND pussy.
So many said that it is BYO but this is not really my way, to be stuck with somebody
Then you will be very disappointed in going there. It is NOT a mongering destination.
As Firewalker correctly said, reports of mongering there are way off the mark compared to the cornucopia of pussy available elsewhere in the Phils. If you want beach+pussy then go to Subic or Cebu to name just 2. If you just want pussy well.. practically any of the bigger cities has pussy galore.
AV
Professional
Don't plan on living on this earth for more than 30 years, there are too many nutcases out with nuclear weapons. I dropped out of the social trap two years ago with a small amount of cash, nothing like yours, and managed to live on its interest comfortably. I also make extra doing little consultation work.
I don't have the urge to do the deed everyday unlike when i was on vacation so my mongering budget is much less. There is nothing on this earth can compare to waking up every morning knowing that you will never have to go to work for the "man" again.
You are a very lucky guy if you act on it and remember to spend your money wisely. I wish you lots of luck!
Hi all,
I will be in boracay for 10 days in May and I don't really know what to expect. After reading a few reports I saw mixed information. So many said that it is BYO but this is not really my way, to be stuck with somebody. There are reports of a guy.Grubert- on the another forum forum that gives a completely different picture of the island, plenty of opportunities. Are the prices so high? And what about some good massage place were they make you happy, maybe one of those beach masseuses in the privacy of the hotel. Will see, any other opinion?
Take careHow are you, Gilberto?
FireWalker(post#1677) and Amavida (post #1679) have given you very good advice. Both posts make sense and are accurate and reliable, I am just filling in some of the gaps.
Some of the larger hotels offer in-house massage services, however you will find there will be no happy ending when the massage is over.The beach masseuses- mainly female, are part of the Muslim Vendors Association Cartel and therefore the chance of a hand shandy in your hotel would be non-existent. However, I would not deter you from making the appropriate and discreet inquiry-you never know your luck in the big city.
You will find the restaurant prices are high, the shops in D'Mall are expensive and many vendors trying to sell you shells, T-shirts,sunglasses,real fake authentic Rolex watches and so. Boracay is a highly commercialised tourist trap.
The general consensus of opinion is that you bring your own girl. Failing that, you may approach the few freelancers(if any) who may frequent Summer Place/Cocomangas. Watch out for the baklas (men dressed as women). Prices for girls are high (compared to Manila/Cebu/AC ) as the demand is high and the supply inadequate.
Boracay is a romantic place where you would bring a girl you like.
Note: my trip to Boracay was in 2006 there may possibly be some changes.
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If anyody has any experience with this, I would appeciate the advice. In preparation for my trip to makati this month, I've been making a lot of contacts with women in the area there through "Date in Asia" site. Got a bunch of phone numbers and Yahoo chatting going on.
Some are pretty clear what is expected. " Help with School". While others are more discreet. As I'm only there about a week I don; t want to waste any time.
Does these usually work out the way I'm hoping. Basically getting laid. Or are most of these women looking to string you along hoping for a more permanent thing.
Thanks,
Marty
Professional
04-03-08, 02:48
I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's input I am not sure what I want to do yet but whatever it is it won't be for another couple of years. Mostly I want input on how to use my money in Philippines if I decide to retire at a early age. I have some ideals of my own but it never hurts to get other peoples input.
Thanks again!
Say your in your mid 40's and if you were to cash out all your assets you would have 1 million dollars.
In case you've found some reasonable solution, pls let me know.
I'm in a similar "dilemma" :D
Cheers!
Cunning Stunt
04-03-08, 11:37
Noticed there are loads of Pinay indies advertise on www.escorttown.com. Quality appears to be quite high and prices range from high reasonable (P2-3T ST) to plain silly (P5T+ ST).
Any of you guys have any experience of using providers from this site and any feedback would be much appreciated.
Cheers GH.
MongerManiac
04-03-08, 15:29
I was in Manila for 4 days early March. Met a girl on DIA and chatted withe her for say 4 weeks. I didnt tell her I was going to visit Manila until the week before I went. She wanted to know my flight details, she met me at the airport, my flight got in about 10pm, we where in my hotel bed and hard at it by 11pm. She was like a shadow for the whole time I was there, but managed to get away to sample andther DIA girl. I bought a local SIM card to contact them and they drop everything at short notice. Give them 200 or 300 peso taxi money.
Good luck.
Wicked Roger
04-03-08, 15:54
I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's input I am not sure what I want to do yet but whatever it is it won't be for another couple of years. Mostly I want input on how to use my money in Philippines if I decide to retire at a early age. I have some ideals of my own but it never hurts to get other peoples input.
Thanks again!
Professional
I can always look after you cash for you until you retire - promise it will be safe :D Especially in Philippines :D
Wicked Roger
04-03-08, 15:55
If anyody has any experience with this, I would appeciate the advice. In preparation for my trip to makati this month, I've been making a lot of contacts with women in the area there through "Date in Asia" site. Got a bunch of phone numbers and Yahoo chatting going on.
Some are pretty clear what is expected. " Help with School". While others are more discreet. As I'm only there about a week I don; t want to waste any time.
Does these usually work out the way I'm hoping. Basically getting laid. Or are most of these women looking to string you along hoping for a more permanent thing.
Thanks,
Marty
Marty
Look in the thread for Chat & Pen Pals etc loadsd of info in there on DIA and other sites
Professional
04-04-08, 02:49
Professional
I can always look after you cash for you until you retire - promise it will be safe :D Especially in Philippines :DThanks I know I could trust you guy at ISG.
Hi all,
I will be in boracay for 10 days in May and I don't really know what to expect. After reading a few reports I saw mixed information. So many said that it is BYO but this is not really my way, to be stuck with somebody. There are reports of a guy.Grubert- on the another forum forum that gives a completely different picture of the island, plenty of opportunities. Are the prices so high? And what about some good massage place were they make you happy, maybe one of those beach masseuses in the privacy of the hotel. Will see, any other opinion?
Take careI have been to boracay twice with 2 different girls, and it can get a bit fucking boreing being stuck there for 2 weeks with your gf.
On the occasions I did escape and go out on my own I found cocomangas a very good place to get a girl, pimps will come up to you and ask you if you want a girl, I went short time with a very nice 20 year old, total cost 1800 peso, I fucked her on the beach.
If you walk past D'mall and by a coffee shop next to the sign for the talipapa, this is a well known spot for picking up a prosser.
Also if you let it be known when talking to the girls selling in the various stalls that you are on your own, you will get many offers.
When I was going rounfd the shops and stalls many girls wanted me to pass their email adresses to guys I might know who want a gf, and most of these girls were in the 18-25 age bracket.
The Talipapa (Meat /Fish/ Veg market) was a very cheap place to eat, and you choose fish in the market like a whole tuna for 150 peso, and there all these restaraunts arounfd the market that offer a cooking service, we spent most of our eating time there. Also ths a very good place to chat to the young girls who work in all the stalls there.
Hi guys,
Thanks to everybody who answered my question. The last post gave me some hope, will see and report back. I'm going for the sea/nice beaches and pussy so does somebody can tell me something about these two things in Puerto Galera /Sabang? Of what I read I think that in Cebu would be no problem for the girls but to find a nice sea resort would require travelling a long way by bus and the two things would not be combined (ex. I think that Malapascua is pussy-free) I' m new to this forum and will be my first to PHP so at the moment I'm asking question but I'm curious of this new destination since I'm a Thailand regular and I fancy a change. I will report on my way back.
Take care
Hi guys,
Thanks to everybody who answered my question. The last post gave me some hope, will see and report back. I'm going for the sea/nice beaches and pussy so does somebody can tell me something about these two things in Puerto Galera /Sabang? Of what I read I think that in Cebu would be no problem for the girls but to find a nice sea resort would require travelling a long way by bus and the two things would not be combined (ex. I think that Malapascua is pussy-free) I' m new to this forum and will be my first to PHP so at the moment I'm asking question but I'm curious of this new destination since I'm a Thailand regular and I fancy a change. I will report on my way back.
Take careHello Gilberto,
Puerto Galera is the name of a small town, you want to go to Sabang which is about 5Kms away-all the action is in Sabang. We stayed at Portofino Beach Resort-La Laguna,wonderful staff,clean,comfortable and good food. It is advisable that you change your money in Manila as you will get a better rate than Sabang. However, if you run out of money you go to Tropicana/ Villa Sabang. There is an ATM at Atlantis but it is often offline.
NIGHT-LIFE IN SABANG.
There are about 6 discos-Big Apple,Broadway,Sabang Village Disco, Sunset Club, Pink Panther and Philippine Is. Disco. I found Big Apple, Broadway and Sabang Village to have the most girls, approximately 50-80 girls in each and lots of 7's,8's and some 9's and 10's. You must go early (from memory the discos open at 8pm.). There are quite a few Koreans who may barfine several girls at one time and this depletes the bar. To my mind, I would not be too concerned about this but it is always wise to know what you are up against. There is a lot of pressure to buy Ladies Drinks at P200 each. THe bar fine is P2,000-the girl gets P1,000 and P1,000 to the bar.
Make sure you let the girl know what you want. Some of the girls are as cunning as shit house rats. The girl may let you pop her once then she receives a text message-the girl acts very concerned and tells you she has to go because her mother is suffering from cancer and the girl has to take her mother to the hospital, the mother is blind and is in a wheel-chair. Being a gentleman (and/ or newbie) you may find her story credible and let her go. If the truth be known, the girl has just got a txt from her Filipino boy friend and has to meet up with him so she can give him some money for playing cards and drinking.
TOURIST ATTRACTIONS.
You can hire a banca (boat) and the boatman will take you to many coves and beaches-it is a day trip and will cost about P1,200. You bring some food and take a girl to a secluded spot where you can indulge in sexual exploits. IMHO Sabang is better than Boracay but to each his own. As you are a regular visitor to LOS, I sincerely hope that you will find P.I. a welcome change-both countries have merit.
Enjoy you time in P.I.
Regards, Wazza.
NOTE to be read in conjunction with pictures.
The first photo shows some of the talent that is available in Sabang and indicates the standard you can expect.
The second photo is a heads up for you. If the girl starts with the cell phone, you must, in a polite and firm manner, request her to desist. It is not what you said but how you said it.There is a Chinese proverb " if you have the money, you can make the devil push your grind stone. The English corollary to this is when money talks, bullshit walks. You make sure that you do the talking and the girl does not bull shit you and then walks.
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HornyGeorge
04-08-08, 22:51
NOT TRUE that you must go so far to find nice beaches or diving off Cebu. Macatan Island is mediocre, unless you can afford to stay at Shangri La Hotel. But just 4 kilometers across the channel is Olango Island which has some nice beaches and very good diving.
Sabang also offers that combination.
You might also consider Davao, which has a great number of available girls and nice beaches on Samal Island less than 45 minutes by banca boat.
Well after reading your suggestions I think I made up my mind. A week in Boracay attracted by sea and sand and being confident that I would sort out some nice girl for a ST everyday. Another week in Sabang for the same thing and i like that suggestion of bringing a girl to some secluded beach (Thai girls don't really like to be in the sun, I hope that it will be different with the Phillies).
I still have a doubt, thought. I am not sure if to spend the last week in Manila or AC considering that I hate Pattaya style or Nana Plaza kind of places (too slutty and too much pressure). Anyway, I quite like bj bars and I am especially into massages. It is my impression that will be no problem for the bj bars in AC but not so easy to find in Manila while it would be the opposite for the massages. I would be grateful to receive some further suggestion.
Take care
Lucky Fellow
04-11-08, 14:31
try Barrio Barretto close to Olongapo. There are some bars and a beach. Check the forum Subic City. I will write a report next week.
About Boracay: I suggest to read the report of Germanboy 2
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=673396&postcount=575
And my report from today in the forum "Other areas".
I read you want to go in May. Maybe, this is low season. I was told that many girls will leave Boracay for home in low season because of the lack of costumers.
Samar 2009
04-16-08, 06:45
Could any of the members advise how much it will cost me if I would like to extend my visa past the 21 days offered on arrival.
I got in touch with a travel agent in Angeles city and he quoted me PHP 2,550
Is this the going price?
Thank you in advance
Could any of the members advise how much it will cost me if I would like to extend my visa past the 21 days offered on arrival. I got in touch with a travel agent in Angeles city and he quoted me PHP 2,550 Is this the going price?
Thank you in advance
You can do it in person if you are in Manila or get an accredited Travel agent to do it for you.
Cheers
AV
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Cost
All non-restricted nationals could be admitted without entry visa for 21 days, initial extension for another 38 days
Visa waiver application 1,000.00
Visa waiver 500.00
Lrf 20.00
Express 500.00
Total 2,020.00
If expired:
Visa waiver application 1,000.00
Visa waiver fine 500.00
Visa waiver fee 500.00
MR 500.00
Legal 30.00
2,530.00
Express 500.00
Total 3,030.00
How would I extend my visa?
You may get an application form from the Visa Extension Section located at the ground floor Annex building, Bureau of Immigration.
Fill up the form, provide a photocopy of your passport, visa, latest arrival card, valid extension of stay, if any and other pertinent documents which will support your application.
How long will it take me to extend my visa?
For non-restricted citizens, one (1) day using the express processing lane and one (1) week using the regular processing lane.
For restricted nationals, it will take three (3) days using the express processing lane and one (1) week using the regular processing lane.
What is the maximum extension of stay that can be granted to me?
For non-restricted nationals, the Chief of Visa Extension Section may grant you two (2) months for every extension but not to exceed the maximum period of one year.
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Cunning Stunt
04-16-08, 12:16
you can do it in person if you are in manila or get an accredited travel agent to do it for you.
cheers,
avgood info av. visiting the immigration dept on magallanes drive, intramuros can be a bit of a day killer although they have tried to speed up their act recently.
guys who are married to filipinas and who enter the country with their spouses get a lovely little balikbayan visa (you have to smile sweetly and flutter your eyelashes at the immigration officer) which allows you to stay for one whole year.
Fifty Fifty
04-16-08, 13:37
Just have to say, thanks to AV for the superb Visa Info, anyone would think he worked or had an interest in the Phils Immigration Business :)
More likely he knows a LBFM who does though ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
http://www.gov.ph/faqs/visa.asp
Just have to say, thanks to AV for the superb Visa Info, anyone would think he worked or had an interest in the Phils Immigration Business :)
More likely he knows a LBFM who does though ;)
Cheers, F/Fifty
Samar 2009
04-16-08, 19:54
Thanks for the in depth info you've supplied Amavida.
You know your stuff 100%.
Many regards,
Acemanmax
HornyGeorge
04-16-08, 21:58
Most Filipinas avoid the sun also, especially lighter complexion or upper class girls.
There are no bj bars in Manila to my knowledge, but there are massage places in AC.
AC is much friendlier than Pattaya.
hi gh,
visiting the immigration dept on magallanes drive, intramuros can be a bit of a day killer although they have tried to speed up their act recently. agreed, lots of queueing up, even if you pay the express fee most of your day is gone when you include getting there in the routinely bad traffic.
guys who are married to filipinas and who enter the country with their spouses get a lovely little balikbayan visa (you have to smile sweetly and flutter your eyelashes at the immigration officer) which allows you to stay for one whole year.there is no formal visa for this (well no one has given me one anyway..) the balikbayan is a privilege extended to you. just carry a copy of your marriage certificate. you are supposed to have asawa ko in tow when you charge down the (empty) balikbayan immigration lane at naia. i use it when alone even so. i just play dumb & smile/chat frantically about the family, this seems to get around the red tape every time. sure is nice to skip through immigration so fast!
cheers
av
Why waste a day trying to extend your visa?
If you know you want to stay longer before you arrive in the Philippines, you can apply for a visa upon arrival as long as it is less than 59 days and you have a return ticket.
You pay $50 USD for the visa fee and 510 PHP for the express and legal fees.
When you land just report to the immigration counter after clearing C & I.
Cunning Stunt
04-17-08, 08:57
There is no formal visa for this (well no one has given me one anyway..) The Balikbayan is a privilege extended to you. Just carry a copy of your marriage certificate. You are supposed to have asawa ko in tow when you charge down the (empty) Balikbayan immigration lane at NAIA. I use it when alone even so. I just play dumb & smile/chat frantically about the family, this seems to get around the red tape every time. Sure is nice to skip through immigration so fast!
Cheers,
AVStraight up AV - you got a balikbayan visa when you entered alone - didn't know you could do that and must remember to give it a try in the future. Nothing ventured. I find that if you aim for the younger, female immigration officers and like you say play the dumb, thick, foreign yokel (admitedly easy for me) it works a breeze.
Fred C Dobbs
04-17-08, 09:04
I maybe staying 25 days in July. Would it be cheaper/easier to pay the daily fine for the extra 4 days or get the visa extension on arrival? What would others do here?
MeLuvULongTime
04-17-08, 22:40
I go to PI every December/January. I have stayed over 21 days there three times. On two occasions I flirted and joked with the customs officer lady, and both times I did not have to pay penalty and was let through. During my last visit she just looked at me and said "you are lucky you visited 20 days", when in fact my father and I had been there 25 days! LOL. However on my other overstay, the old man customs officer made me pay Of note I am an american born 6 foot mesztiso considered by some to be guapo and can be very charming. God I love visiting there.
Meloveyoulooongtime
straight up av - you got a balikbayan visa when you entered alone - didn't know you could do that and must remember to give it a try in the future. nothing ventured. i find that if you aim for the younger, female immigration officers and like you say play the dumb, thick, foreign yokel (admitedly easy for me) it works a breeze.damn straight gh a further note : everytime i return home to the phils & charge down the balikbayan lane to 'claim the privelege' they have never ever asked to see my marriage certificate. i always have a valid offically notarised copy (not the original) with me. i have even attempted to hand it over to them but they never wish to see it.
maybe they have the info in front of them on a screen but judging by the speed that they approve my passport (and knowing the inefficiency of their info systems) im inclined to think they just let it slide.
maybe im one of very few that are cheeky enough to do this?
maybe they have been instructed to be nice to balikbayan??
i love this place, its so unpredictable :)
hope this little bit of info helps.
av
[*just to be absolutely clear to anyone else reading this - you are supposed to have asawa ko in tow with you when you claim. they will remind you of this. just play dumb you should be fine]
I maybe staying 25 days in July. Would it be cheaper/easier to pay the daily fine for the extra 4 days or get the visa extension on arrival? What would others do here?Hi Fred, I would just get it in advance or get it at the Immi counter in NAIA, you can then relax & enjoy your trip knowing you are 'legit'.
The thought of paying fines & thereby leaving yourself open to corrupt extortion attempts kinda scares me... you could find your self innocently involved in some minor hassle which could blow up in your face if you don't have the correct paperwork.
K.I.S.S. principle.
Cheers!
AV
HornyGeorge
04-18-08, 20:07
I use that method too (despite having been divorced for 5 years and the fact that the ex is now a US citizen). Actually I've done you one better using the Philippines lack of divorce to my benefit.
After entering with only a tourist visa, I overstayed the 21 day limit. As I was leaving the country, I skipped the HUGE line for immigration and went to the Supervisor's Window at the far left side. He did look on his computer, presumably to verify my claim that I was married to a Filipina (true under THEIR law). Took under a minute, got my exit stamp and went on my merry way.
There is MUCH buzz that the 21 day limit will be dropped in favor of a 30 days entry permit but has not happened yet. Indonesia is going in the other direction as they now charge for ANY tourist visa (they gave 60 days free until a couple years ago).
After entering with only a tourist visa, I overstayed the 21 day limit. As I was leaving the country, I skipped the HUGE line for immigration and went to the Supervisor's Window at the far left side. He did look on his computer, presumably to verify my claim that I was married to a Filipina (true under THEIR law). Took under a minute, got my exit stamp and went on my merry way.Love your work HG :) Must try that!
There is MUCH buzz that the 21 day limit will be dropped in favor of a 30 days entry permit but has not happened yet.Oh, didn't know about that! My god, they're doing something smart for a change.
Cheers for the info mate!
AV
There is MUCH buzz that the 21 day limit will be dropped in favor of a 30 days entry permit but has not happened yet.
My last two trips I overstayed by one day and four days respectively and the immigration officer didn't even bat an eyelash. You would think that the government would keep the 21 day limit in place since it brings in stacks of cash.
I will be traveling in May and I just realized I will be staying for 23 days. Can somebody tell me if daily fines apply? How much would that be per day? I am tempted in playing the dumb but let's say that I go directly to immigration on my arrival how much would they charge me for the 2 days extension and how long would it take seeing that I have a connecting flight. Any opinion?
Thanks
I will be traveling in May and I just realized I will be staying for 23 days.
Normal immigration and you'll get 21 days.
I'd ask the immigration officer when entering the country to give 23 or 24 days.
I think they have the flexibility.
Give it a try.
Cheers!
I will be traveling in May and I just realized I will be staying for 23 days. Can somebody tell me if daily fines apply? How much would that be per day? I am tempted in playing the dumb but let's say that I go directly to immigration on my arrival how much would they charge me for the 2 days extension and how long would it take seeing that I have a connecting flight. Any opinion?
ThanksDo like I will do. I will leave the Phils and travel to Bangkok for 3 days, and then return to Manila. Easy!
Member #4647
04-27-08, 23:43
Does anybody know of a website that has a map with all the action clearly marked on it for manila? Also, I am going may 10th and will be back early June and my passport expires in may, do i need to renew it before I come back?
Hello fellow mongers,
I have a small problem... I am going to Manilla for 2 days and I am staying at the Pan Pacific. I am going to be more or less guarded during the whole visit so bringing back a pro is not an option.
Can anyone give me advise on where to go if I only have 2-3 hours in an early evening (about 7-10 PM)?
Kirsia
Unless you have a Filipino passport, I have some bad news: "Everyone entering the Philippines must have a passport valid for at least six months beyond the intended period of stay. "
I recommend you contact the nearest Philippine embassy or consulate as soon as possible..not to mention see if your governement can fastrack your passport renewal. Good luck.
X
Does anybody know of a website that has a map with all the action clearly marked on it for manila? Also, I am going may 10th and will be back early June and my passport expires in may, do i need to renew it before I come back?
Blackangst
04-28-08, 19:58
Does anybody know of a website that has a map with all the action clearly marked on it for manila? Also, I am going may 10th and will be back early June and my passport expires in may, do i need to renew it before I come back?You may be screwed man. There is a GOOD chance you will be denied entry.
As far as a map of action, read the threads for locations and use Google. Ive used Google earth to get satellite pics when planning.
Also, I am going may 10th and will be back early June and my passport expires in may
I expect that they won't let you enter the country.
Renew it before traveling.
Good luck!
Depending on what country you are departing from, you may not even be allowed to leave with less than 6 months on your passport. If the airline lets you boarf and the Phils do not let you enter, the airline must return you to your original destination at their cost. Renew.
'bare
Rik Freeman
04-29-08, 21:00
Hello fellow mongers,
I have a small problem... I am going to Manilla for 2 days and I am staying at the Pan Pacific. I am going to be more or less guarded during the whole visit so bringing back a pro is not an option.
Can anyone give me advise on where to go if I only have 2-3 hours in an early evening (about 7-10 PM)?
KirsiaPan Pacific is very close to the P Burgos area. Maybe a 5 minute walk. As you enter there street, there are bars on both sides. The Bar fines will depend on the place, but approx $ 50-60 should do the job. As you can't get a pro to your room, a good option will be to hail a cab and ask to driver, "Boss Anito Diba" or "Millionaires on EDSA". Its a 5 minute ride to these short term motels and you should be done with the cab and the room within 10-15 dollars. Try not to get 'extra services' at the motels as they can be expensive and also expose you to risk. Once done with the 'job', ask to motel to get you a cab. It will cost you 3-4 times what you paid for incoming trip, but it's safer than looking for a cab outside. I am not suggesting any bars in Burgos, but joules (Jooles) had been good for me. Also, DON't pick up someone off the street (60 % you'll have have different equipment down there).
Good Luck
Pan Pacific is very close to the P Burgos area. Maybe a 5 minute walk. As you enter there street, there are bars on both sides. The Bar fines will depend on the place, but approx $ 50-60 should do the job. As you can't get a pro to your room, a good option will be to hail a cab and ask to driver, "Boss Anito Diba" or "Millionaires on EDSA". Its a 5 minute ride to these short term motels and you should be done with the cab and the room within 10-15 dollars. Try not to get 'extra services' at the motels as they can be expensive and also expose you to risk. Once done with the 'job', ask to motel to get you a cab. It will cost you 3-4 times what you paid for incoming trip, but it's safer than looking for a cab outside. I am not suggesting any bars in Burgos, but joules (Jooles) had been good for me. Also, DON't pick up someone off the street (60 % you'll have have different equipment down there).
Good Luck
Unless I am mistaken, P. Burgos is in Makati and the Pan Pacific is on the other side of town in Malate.
Robb
My apologies for misquoting "blaze". My mistake. The original poster who has an expiring visa was "Kirsia123"
LuvBEARS has a good point.....and I'll add to that. A good travel agent would have informed you about this. Mine always does, even though I've been using him for two years and tend to roll my eyes when he goes thru his spiel about rules and check in and blah, blah.
Now, if K123 isn't waiting in some visa line somewhere, maybe he could tell us what he means by being "guarded". Maybe he in a North Korean athlete on his way to the Beijing Olympics?
X
Depending on what country you are departing from, you may not even be allowed to leave with less than 6 months on your passport. If the airline lets you boarf and the Phils do not let you enter, the airline must return you to your original destination at their cost. Renew.
'bare
Cunning Stunt
04-30-08, 13:47
Pan Pacific is very close to the P Burgos area. Maybe a 5 minute walk. As you enter there street, there are bars on both sides. The Bar fines will depend on the place, but approx $ 50-60 should do the job. As you can't get a pro to your room, a good option will be to hail a cab and ask to driver, "Boss Anito Diba" ...
Good LuckBest ask for Sogo or Victoria Court (for upmarket ST rooms) if in theMalate/Ermita area. Anito's has been taken over by the Victoria Court Group, spruced up and renamed (forget its new name). This was reputedly after a girl was murdered in one of the rooms and they lost most of their regular custom (Filipino's are very superstitious and scared of ghosts). There is no branch of Anito's in Makati but there probably is a Sogo in the area as they seem to be springing up everywhere as love hotels are becoming ever more popular with Filipino's. Eurotel is another popular group with well appointed ST hotels opening up everywhere. There is a new one opened up right opposite Southmall in Las Pinas which I have put to good use a couple of times when engaged in a successful spot of mall hunting.
Oh and Pan Pacific is definately in Adriatico and a fair distance from P Burgos.
Candyman2005
05-02-08, 16:33
I see some informatin about visa extention, I plan to move to the philippines for more than six months do i need to have a return trip ticket when i arrive there? Also what requirements will i need to get an extended visa, how hard is it and should i do it upon arrival to the philippines? I am not married to a filipino, will it be a problem for me to stay for an extended period of time? I read that the max period of staying in the philippines is 17 months, then you would have to leave for a day and start the process all over again is this true?
Can someone please shed some light on me, i want to make sure I will have no problem staying 6months or more.
I see some informatin about visa extention, I plan to move to the philippines for more than six months do i need to have a return trip ticket when i arrive there? Also what requirements will i need to get an extended visa, how hard is it and should i do it upon arrival to the philippines?
I am not married to a filipino, will it be a problem for me to stay for an extended period of time? I read that the max period of staying in the philippines is 17 months, then you would have to leave for a day and start the process all over again is this true?
Can someone please shed some light on me, i want to make sure I will have no problem staying 6months or more.Hello Candyman, Welcome. On behalf of all may I ask that u take a moment to learn to use the 'Search this thread' tool.
In answer to your question, Yes, you can stay longer by getting extensions to your visa. It is technically possible to stay up to 24 months but rare. More commonly you can get extensions up to 16 months. Non married guys do what is called a 'visa run' every so often. That is, they get on a plane, fly to Thailand for example & fly straight back to the Phils. This way they can start another fresh visitor visa again.
Official info here : http://immigration.gov.ph//index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=207&Itemid=80
Cheers
AV
Candyman2005
05-03-08, 17:54
Thanks AV. I will use the search thread tool in the future prior to asking a question that may have already been asked or to find infomation already posted.
I am going to be staying in Makati for a week and I was wondering where to go for a great night out in makati.
Prefer a bar enviroment as at least you get to know a little bit about the girl before you end up in the room, dont have a problem bringing the girl back to my hotel.
Also a guide to the prices would be good for a Long Time option of lets say midnight to the morning.
Thanks
Wizard
Thanks AV. I will use the search thread tool in the future prior to asking a question that may have already been asked or to find infomation already posted.You're welcome mate. We're all friends here so if you don't understand something just ask, some one will be happy to help.
AV
I am going to be staying in Makati for a week and I was wondering where to go for a great night out in makati. Prefer a bar enviroment as at least you get to know a little bit about the girl before you end up in the room, dont have a problem bringing the girl back to my hotel. Also a guide to the prices would be good for a Long Time option of lets say midnight to the morning. Thanks
WizardHello & welcome Wizard! Your question is too general.
Think about what constitutes 'a great night out' for you, do a little reading/searching of the Makati threads first, then post a specific question there in the Makati threads.
As a general rule all P4P bars will be delighted to keep serving you expensive 'ladies drinks' for as long as you wish to 'get to know a little bit about the girl'. ;)
Cheers mate!
AV
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Hello & welcome Wizard! Your question is too general.
Think about what constitutes 'a great night out' for you, do a little reading / searching of the Makati threads first, then post a specific question there in the Makati threads.
As a general rule all P4P bars will be delighted to keep serving you expensive 'ladies drinks' for as long as you wish to 'get to know a little bit about the girl'. ;)
Cheers mate!
AVAV, sorry if my question is a bit too general, as it is my first trip to manila and most of my expirience comes from China/HK where there are no BF etc. maybe my question is a bit naive. Your sarcasm is apreciated. ;)
Like I said staying in Makati, have no idea where to go have gone through most of the threads and LA seems a good place to start but at the same time the malls seem quite interesting, but at the same time I am more of an introverted person then an extrovert so that may not suit me as opposed to some other people on this forum.
So be gentle ;) and point me in the right direction if you want.
Wizard
I am going to be staying in Makati for a week and I was wondering where to go for a great night out in makati.Hi Wizard,
Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.
There are many places to go within a 20 minute drive of Makati:
EDSA entertainment complex, this is a large building with 8-12 different clubs in it. The women all wear bikinis/bra & panties and dance on a stage for your review. There is every size, shape and range of woman a man could want here. Typical barfine is 12-1400 pesos. The woman will ask for a tip at the end of the evening. It is common to tip based on performance. In my opinion this is the best value in the Manila area. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Roxas Blvd, this is a street with 10-12 different clubs. The concensus seems to be the best (and most expensive) is East Asia entertainment. Most of these clubs tend to cater to Asian clients. For further info when speaking of Asian mongers, think people who overpay, overindulge and don’t expect much of a performance from the girl. Barfines here start at 3500 pesos and go up depending on how gullible the mamasan thinks you are. Of course the girl will expect a tip after the deed. In my opinion this is the worst place to go in Manila. Beware cab drivers will try very hard to bring you here rather than EDSA as they are very close to each other. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Burgos Street, this is a street in Makati with 15-20 different clubs on it. Each club has its own theme and quality of girl. The clubs generally are very good and friendly. There are two different groups that own all of the clubs on Burgos St. One group owns 80% of the clubs and there barfines are 3500 pesos. The other group owns only 4 clubs and there barfines are 22-2400 pesos. The best of these clubs is Flamingo. Once again you can find every variety of woman on this street that your heart desires. Of course you will be asked for a tip in addition to the barfine. In my opinion Burgos is a street that everyone should visit once. Go early around 8-9 pm and hit several of the clubs and make an evening of it. My personal favorite is to go to the Billboard club and watch the women do their dance routine. It is truly fabulous almost on par with a Vegas show, with the added element that alot of the women are there for the taking. In my opinion some of the most beautiful women work in this club. Of course they will expect to be tipped very well. The bad news is these women get paid pretty well just to dance and aren’t that motivated to get barfined, translation they are probably lousy in bed. 3 minute drive within Makati.
Havana Café is a bar located in the Greenbelt mall of Makati. This is strictly a free lancer bar. There are no barfines and no mamasans to do the leg work for you. On any given night it is a paradise or a desert. The bar is very good with a live band that plays good salsa music. The bar serves good food and reasonably priced drinks. Many of the women will come on to you and give you the “nod” that they are interested in you. If you see someone you are attracted to you will have to walk up and “open” with them. If they are interested they will usually invite you to join them within 3 minutes. It is understood that once you join them you are buying until you either leave with them or move to a different location in the bar without them. On rare occasions non-working girls do stop into this club because they like the music. So if you have been with a girl for 15-30 mins and she has not rubbed your hand or your leg and told you how handsome you are than you definitely have to find a tactful way to bring up the subject of her spending the night with you. Typical tips range from 15-3000 pesos. 3 min cab ride from anywhere in Makati.
L.A. Café is another freelancer club. It is located in Malate/Ermita area which is a 20 min drive from Makati depending on the time of day. This is one of the most popular and crowded pick up places in Manila. It is open 24 hours a day and is always happening. I went there a couple of weeks ago at 9 am and there was easily 100 women in there. The best time for the most quality women is in the evening between 8 pm and midnight. During peak time there is easily 300 women there. In the evening they have a very good live band upstairs which draws a huge crowd. There are a lot of mongers there playing pool and it is easy to find a wing man to “run your game with.” In my opinion I hate this place because that part of town is dirty and full of beggars and thieves. On several occasions I have run across scammer chicks who think they are too hot to have sex and still expect to be paid! But most people who go there rave about the place and for good reason there are tons of beautiful young women there 24 hours a day. These women can be had for as cheap as 1000 pesos. Please ask the advice of others as I am not the best source of info on this club.
Take away drive up joints. These are generally non-noticeable houses that you could never tell exist. The only way to find them is ask a taxi driver to take you there. Makati is littered with them. When you find a taxi driver with info on one of these he will bring you to a nondescript entrance, you go into a large room with several women sitting around in their underwear. Sometimes there are as many as 40-50 women in these places. They will simply stand there and smile at you. You make your pick and off you go to your hotel. I have seen truly beautiful young women here as well as fat, ugly old ladies. It is a crap shoot. The prices will vary anywhere from 1000-3500 pesos.
Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.
Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!
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Key Master
05-06-08, 07:28
Like I said staying in Makati, have no idea where to go have gone through most of the threads and LA seems a good place to start but at the same time the malls seem quite interesting, but at the same time I am more of an introverted person then an extrovert so that may not suit me as opposed to some other people on this forum.
Wizard
You sound real green. I think you should go back and reread the Manila and Makati threads just below where you clicked here for General Info in the PI section. There is a lot of information there. If you are in Makati, there are tons of clubs on Burgos and there are some malls in Makati. You can read more about them in the Makati section. You'll read more about LA in Manila section. If you are real shy, you might not do too well in LA or picking up in the malls. You might be better off in the barfine type clubs. Also read up on EDSA complex another girly barfine place.
Hi Wizard,
Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.
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Very Good info. This is one I will bookmark to reread before heading to the PI.
Thanks for the time and effort to compile it.
Slim
If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you.
Nice post with lots of tangible and valuable information, I agree with your findings. My only minor quibble with you would be the above statement. May have been better to say find a girl you have good chemistry with. Remember the way they act in the bar is not always an indicator of how they will act in bed and are these girls ever in truly love with you? I've had shy girls open up and relax once in the room they get to know me better and I've had the extroverts in the clubs who know how to play the game and try to take advantage once in the room.
Cunning Stunt
05-06-08, 13:38
I've had shy girls open up and relax once in the room they get to know me better and I've had the extroverts in the clubs who know how to play the game and try to take advantage once in the room.
Yeah, agree with that RM - its is the shy ones that are often the sly ones. Never had much time for those kind we all recognise in Far Eastern bars and pick-up joints. These are are invariably nice looking but know it, show lots of bare flesh and often have body piercing and tattoo's. They come on really strong, grabbing your tackle and talking trash and match you drink for drink, so you think wow you've really died and gone to heaven and are about to have your rocks n' socks well and truly blown off by this fallen angel when you get her back to your room.
Except that 99/100 you don't. You lock the door and she suddenly changes into a simpering, born again virgin who locks herself in the bathroom and has to have the bathtowel surgically removed and then proceeds to do such a remarkably good impression of a starfish that you feel like a necrophile. Or else, and even worse, she is a controlling, consumate professional ***** who will only let you do what she wants you to do and no more. Very rarely she is exactly what is written on the can and then you know you've won the sex lottery and can preen for weeks on the experience.
In summary, I go for the shy, unassuming types as, it the Philippines its amazing what comes in a plain, brown wrapper.
GH
Hi Wizard,
Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.
Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!
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Wizard
Blackangst
05-07-08, 20:21
Yeah, agree with that RM - its is the shy ones that are often the sly ones. Never had much time for those kind we all recognise in Far Eastern bars and pick-up joints. These are are invariably nice looking but know it, show lots of bare flesh and often have body piercing and tattoo's. They come on really strong, grabbing your tackle and talking trash and match you drink for drink, so you think wow you've really died and gone to heaven and are about to have your rocks n' socks well and truly blown off by this fallen angel when you get her back to your room.
Except that 99/100 you don't. You lock the door and she suddenly changes into a simpering, born again virgin who locks herself in the bathroom and has to have the bathtowel surgically removed and then proceeds to do such a remarkably good impression of a starfish that you feel like a necrophile. Or else, and even worse, she is a controlling, consumate professional ***** who will only let you do what she wants you to do and no more. Very rarely she is exactly what is written on the can and then you know you've won the sex lottery and can preen for weeks on the experience.
In summary, I go for the shy, unassuming types as, it the Philippines its amazing what comes in a plain, brown wrapper.
GHIn this case, you would know within an hour of getting her back to your room. It is fairly easy to kick her out, and drag her back to mamasan and demand a refund. It doesnt ALWAYS work, but it DOES work. The last thing a mamasan wants is a girl with a bad reputation.
Blackangst
05-07-08, 20:32
You sound real green. I think you should go back and reread the Manila and Makati threads just below where you clicked here for General Info in the PI section. There is a lot of information there. If you are in Makati, there are tons of clubs on Burgos and there are some malls in Makati. You can read more about them in the Makati section. You'll read more about LA in Manila section. If you are real shy, you might not do too well in LA or picking up in the malls. You might be better off in the barfine type clubs. Also read up on EDSA complex another girly barfine place.I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.
Just my opinion.
I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.
Just my opinion.Thanks, I am not a flip flop, shorts, tshirt kind of guy, more designer jeans polo or s/s shirt wear guy, so this will not be a problem. I also shave every morning so I do think I would look aproachable...LOL
Thanks for the reply.
Wizard
Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.
Exactly. But even in a BF-bar they can say no.
Or they say menstruation or whatever.
Cheers!
Key Master
05-08-08, 07:45
I agree 100% with one exception - LA Cafe. I dont care how shy he is, he WILL get approached. LA Cafe (and the other 2 or 3 FL bars nearby) we are the hunted, not the hunter. At least thats been MY experience the 5 or 6 times Ive been there. My suggestion for best success is...as tempting as it is to dress very casual and comfortable (flip flops, shorts, t shirt) I HIGHLY recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, and well groomed. You will attract higher class, better looking women. Remember-LA Cafe isnt a BF bar...they CAN say no. And even though they are trolling for extra money, it doesnt mean they dont want a bad looking, ungroomed guy to spend time with.
Just my opinion.
I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?
Blackangst
05-08-08, 09:08
I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?Well, generalities are generally true, thus I posted a generality As far as those who go upstairs for the Korean action. Well, in my experience maybe 10%. And when going upstairs in LA, its off to the far right after coming up the stairs that they gather. I think the generality that the best looking, say 8's and above, mostly go for the Korean action isn't the norm. Of course with ALL FL joints its hit or miss, but that said, all it takes is a smile to get the ball rolling. I'm sure anyone can manage that: p Let me tell you a story as an example of my experience the first time there.
It was in. I think 99 maybe 2000. I was booked in Palm Plaza for business. 2nd time in Manila, first time in Ermita area. In my off time when I've traveled I tend to wander around. So, off I went walking, and stumbled on LA Cafe. Now mind you, the joint across the street (can't remember the name but its owned by LA now) wasnt there. I wandered in, and of course followed the easiest path, which is left of the bar. I grabbed a San Miguel and while waiting to be helped was approached by a couple of the trolls that hang out on that side of the bar. Of course I declined. I grabbed my beer, and went to the back near the pool tables and sat. It was about 6pm or so and was fairly busy. Now, I wasnt a stranger to mongering, but you can't just assume every bar you walk into all over the world is a FL bar, and I made no such assumptions. (As a sidenote, I hadnt read about LA as a pick up joint prior to this). Within about 20 minutes my mongering antennae started tingling. I was just getting "that feeling". A few girls were playing pool and I flirted with them, and a band was warming up upstairs. I decided to check it out. Upstairs was starting to bustle. Man. Lots of nice ladies. Having decided it was a FL bar my thinking changed. I was looking for company for the night I went to the bar just as you get upstairs and ordered another SM, and grabbed a seat just to the right of the bar at a single table. And scanned. Now, I'm not shy per se, but my first time somewhere I always sit back and take it in to get a feel for the place. The "local rules" if you will. A few girls stopped by to say hello, and I made small talk with a few, but most wandered off after 10 minutes or so, as I hadnt seen one that sparked my interest. Yet. Then after oh. Maybe 30 minutes or so I spotted a couple girls sitting along the balcony seats overlooking the stairs. One caught my eye, and I smiled and raised my beer as a "cheers" gesture. She immediately came over to join me. She was easily an 8. We had a few drinks over the next hour or so, and learned she was a student (arent they all? ) but she actually showed me her ID, as she was studying programming, and me as a network engineer was of course interested where she was going. Still unsure if she was. How shall I say. For hire, I simply said "Well, I need to get back to my room. I'd love for you to join me if you arent busy". She said "I would love to". And off we went. Needless to say the rest of the night was absolutely heaven.
The next morning I woke first at about 8 or so, still suprised at this angel in my bed. I smiled remembering what a great we had, not just the sex, but the conversation. The TRUE meaning of GFE. I went into the bathroom and was brushing my teeth, and she appeared in the doorway in one my tshirts. And thats all. Well, round 3 commenced, we showered, and said our goodbyes. Before she left, though, I put some pesos into her purse and made sure she saw me. She just smiled and didn't ask questions. Money hadnt come up ONCE the whole night. I walked her downstairs, kissed her goodbye, and off she went. Total damage including drinks was probably 1000p.
My point to the story is, if you're somewhat decent, a gentleman, and patient, as it sounds like Wizard is, you CAN find an 8 or better without approaching the lady.
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Cunning Stunt
05-08-08, 10:59
I understand your thinking, but a lot depends on the monger. What are his tastes? If it's high, and it might be if you are a karaoke player, then he might not get approached by certain women if he's not Japanese or Korean looking. If he's real shy, then he might get no play from them if he doesn't initiate. Anyone can get some type of play at LA, but getting certain types, is variable. A lot of the women who go upstairs mainly for the Japanese and Korean clients can seem to be very uninterested and snotty to other people. That's my view. I know some women will approach someone who looks decent or not, but is that person his type?
Regarding LA Cafe, it is so easy, even for reticent types. See something you fancy, catch their eye and smile at them. If they are up for it they will smile back (and sometimes come right on over). If they are not they will look away so you look elsewhere. Works for me every time. Unless you look a real slob (flip-flops, union jack shorts and vest barely covering beer gut - shit thats describes me:o), I don't think it matters how you dress as you don't get too many high achievers in the old LA (among the girls that is). GH
IgoforAsian
05-08-08, 15:49
Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Excellent report Devils 1. My more limited experience confirms exactly what you say.
The only problem with the awesome GFE that these cute Filipinas provide is... what if you fall in love?
Like you say, it is so easy to find a girl who is so much more beautiful, young, and affectionate than what you can find at home, it is perhaps only natural that you might fall in love and want to take her home with you!!!
Interesting. What was left unsaid, is that you have to be careful who you make eye contact with. When you walk in the door it seem like holes are drilling thru you. It's kind of delicate trying to find company for the night without attracting unwanted attention from ..., scavengers. Not sure what else to call them. Sorry for being politically incorrect.
My advice is head for an empty table near the ladies room. It's a good place to get started. Or later in the evening, go upstairs.
The funny thing about LA is that I've found some gems in the afternoon. Be careful though, some can't stay the night -- they live (or claim to live) with their parents.
X
Regarding LA Cafe, it is so easy, even for reticent types. See something you fancy, catch their eye and smile at them. If they are up for it they will smile back (and sometimes come right on over). If they are not they will look away so you look elsewhere. Works for me every time. Unless you look a real slob (flip-flops, union jack shorts and vest barely covering beer gut - shit thats describes me:o), I don't think it matters how you dress as you don't get too many high achievers in the old LA (among the girls that is). GH
Cunning Stunt
05-08-08, 18:12
Interesting. What was left unsaid, is that you have to be careful who you make eye contact with. When you walk in the door it seem like holes are drilling thru you. It's kind of delicate trying to find company for the night without attracting unwanted attention from ..., scavengers. Not sure what else to call them. Sorry for being politically incorrect.
My advice is head for an empty table near the ladies room. It's a good place to get started. Or later in the evening, go upstairs.
The funny thing about LA is that I've found some gems in the afternoon. Be careful though, some can't stay the night -- they live (or claim to live) with their parents.
X
Ho X, Yeah you get the sad wrecks in there who look at you with almost desperate pleading in their rheumy old eyes but in these cases you have to be hard and shake your head and look away or gently tell them you are not interested if they are pestering. Give them the slightest hope and they will attach themselves to you like a fuckin' barnacle and are impossible to get rid of. Sometimes though they have their uses if you are feeling lazy. For a couple of hundred pesos, tell them what you are after, and they will shoot off and find her for you.
Funny how we have our favourite spots, mine is near the door so I can case the new arrivals and get some much needed relatively smoke free air.
Agree with you about the merits of afternoon hunting - it can sometimes be a wasteland but other times it is happy hunting time with a choice of nubile young part-timers who tend to visit afternoons until 8 or so and then, if they don't find a guy, go home. In addition the place is less crowded and you get happy hour prices. All in all a good time to visit. GH
Excellent report Devils 1. My more limited experience confirms exactly what you say.
The only problem with the awesome GFE that these cute Filipinas provide is... what if you fall in love?
Like you say, it is so easy to find a girl who is so much more beautiful, young, and affectionate than what you can find at home, it is perhaps only natural that you might fall in love and want to take her home with you!!!It is hilarious that you say that because I have fallen in love over there about a thousand times!
If you new how many miles I have paced back and forth in my house trying to find a way to smuggle one of those little brown sex machines in to the U.S.
I swear I would pay a sum equal to her body weight in gold just to get one of them here to use as my personal sex slave. I have visions of 3-4 of them lounging around my house waiting for me to come home and screw their brains out like some kind of a minature Playboy mansion!
I am sure every guy on this forum has done some basic research and probably gotten the same answer that I have gotten from the U.S. Embassy...."dont even think about it!!!"
Fifty Fifty
05-09-08, 07:54
If you new how many miles I have paced back and forth in my house trying to find a way to smuggle one of those little brown sex machines in to the U.S.
Why bother trying to smuggle em in, find a Pilipina who is already in the US and get her to invite her younger sisters or nieces over for a holiday. Offer to assist with funds in return for services rendered. They all know the score.
I swear I would pay a sum equal to her body weight in gold just to get one of them here to use as my personal sex slave. I have visions of 3-4 of them lounging around my house waiting for me to come home and screw their brains out like some kind of a minature Playboy mansion
Much cheaper option, go to Phils, buy a Condo and fill it up with a few slaves of your personal choice. Let them live and do, rent free, so long as you can visit and pretend to be Hugh Hefner from time to time. Make sure you get one with a good Pool for proper Playboy Parties ;)
I am sure every guy on this forum has done some basic research and probably gotten the same answer that I have gotten from the U.S. Embassy...."dont even think about it!!!"
No, I wouldnt bother. Im British anyway.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Cunning Stunt
05-09-08, 09:28
If you new how many miles I have paced back and forth in my house trying to find a way to smuggle one of those little brown sex machines in to the U.S.
Do they do reverse direction balibayan boxes? Tuck one in a supersize with some water and a few Jolibee burgers - she'd be as happy as Larry. Its only a 6-8 week trip;)
Much cheaper option, go to Phils, buy a Condo and fill it up with a few slaves of your personal choice. Let them live and do, rent free, so long as you can visit and pretend to be Hugh Hefner from time to time. Make sure you get one with a good Pool for proper Playboy Parties ;)
Wow that sounds good - a wet dream to end all wet dreams :D
Regarding LA Cafe, it is so easy, even for reticent types. See something you fancy, catch their eye and smile at them. If they are up for it they will smile back (and sometimes come right on over). If they are not they will look away so you look elsewhere. Works for me every time. Unless you look a real slob (flip-flops, union jack shorts and vest barely covering beer gut - shit thats describes me:o), I don't think it matters how you dress as you don't get too many high achievers in the old LA (among the girls that is). GHI would have to agree that a smile works wonders because it shows the true you and the right smile can just melt a wo-man.
The better you dress the better it will be now you do not have to show up in your sunday best but you should look causally sharp.
Also guys make it easy for her to say yes by:
Brushing your teeth or least get rid of the breath that will set a person eyebrows on fire.
Bath- enough said.
Put on a little bit of smell good aka cologne. When you do put it on always think less is more meaing that i should not be able to smell you from fifty feet away.
Rubberyman
05-10-08, 01:18
Igoforasian,
Don't fall in love!
It sticks to your face.
Blackangst
05-10-08, 02:48
Why bother trying to smuggle em in, find a Pilipina who is already in the US and get her to invite her younger sisters or nieces over for a holiday. Offer to assist with funds in return for services rendered. They all know the score.
Much cheaper option, go to Phils, buy a Condo and fill it up with a few slaves of your personal choice. Let them live and do, rent free, so long as you can visit and pretend to be Hugh Hefner from time to time. Make sure you get one with a good Pool for proper Playboy Parties ;)
No, I wouldnt bother. Im British anyway.
Cheers, F/Fifty
1st comment: this needs a caveat. Tourist visas are VERY rare. Very. You cant just grab a passport and fly over. Need a visa, and to get a tourist visa one would need substantioal assets in the PI. This disqualifies 95% of the population.
Second, I know Im not a mod, I know Im just another fuck behind a keyboard like the rest of us. But the borderline human trafficing comments are not appropriate IMHO. I know the spirit in which theyre intended, but Christ.
/rant off
Fifty Fifty
05-10-08, 11:24
1st comment: this needs a caveat. Tourist visas are VERY rare. Very. You cant just grab a passport and fly over. Need a visa, and to get a tourist visa one would need substantioal assets in the PI. This disqualifies 95% of the population.
Sorry mate but that is not always the case. A PI Girl I know married to an American living in LA regularly has members of her family from Cebu over for a visit. Passport and Tourist Visa are routine formalities and so long as there is an invitation, medical cover etc etc it can be done.
Second, I know Im not a mod, I know Im just another fuck behind a keyboard like the rest of us. But the borderline human trafficing comments are not appropriate IMHO. I know the spirit in which theyre intended, but Christ.
/rant off
Yes Rant off is correct -
Firstly - The quote it came from :
I swear I would pay a sum equal to her body weight in gold just to get one of them here to use as my personal sex slave. I have visions of 3-4 of them lounging around my house waiting for me to come home and screw their brains out like some kind of a minature Playboy mansion!
Secondly -
Much cheaper option, go to Phils, buy a Condo and fill it up with a few slaves of your personal choice. Let them live and do, rent free, so long as you can visit and pretend to be Hugh Hefner from time to time. Make sure you get one with a good Pool for proper Playboy Parties ;)
Since when has a tongue-in cheek comment about having two or three girls living in a decent Condo rent free etc etc been on the same card as [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908)???
As far as I am aware, please correct me if I am wrong, but [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) of Sex Slaves usually involves the movement of (mainly young) women from one country to another for use as Sex Objects or prostitutes for monetary gain. This is usually done either by deception or more commonly against their own will. It often involves them being subjected to poor conditions and being treated badly.
The Condo Comment has no relation to this whatsoever, moreover I know plenty of girls who would jump at the chance to live in a decent place, rent free and do someting they love to do, after all they are LBFM's ;)
So Rant Off.
Cheers, F/Fifty
It is hilarious that you say that because I have fallen in love over there about a thousand times!
If you new how many miles I have paced back and forth in my house trying to find a way to smuggle one of those little brown sex machines in to the U.S.
I was so smitten one time, I thought about adoption. Even though she was 18+, she looked 15. I posted a FR about her in the AC forum.
Slim
Ha, ha, this thread reminds me of something that happened when I was a part of the US Navy 7th fleet.
Prior to the trip from Subic back to San Diego, some guys on the aircraft carrier we were with smuggled a girl on board and hid her in one of the more remote storerooms (possibly a fan room?). I guess they kept it a secret for a few days. The rumor was that she was pimped out, but that was probably just speclation.
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I was so smitten one time, I thought about adoption. Even though she was 18+, she looked 15. I posted a FR about her in the AC forum.
Slim
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