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[Cunning Stunt]

Guys out there you don't know how lucky you are. I'm in the UK at the moment on a biennial extended visit and am already in severe LBFM withdrawal mode. Here most of the women have asses like the backs of busses and those who don't are either foul mothed lager loutesses or look through you like you were not there. Mind you the weathers nice which is a suprise and the beer has improved.

However looking forward to next month when I'll be back in Pinay heaven and can stroll through a mall, catch the eye of a pretty young thing, smile, and be reasonably sure that she will not only smile back, but sometimes even come over and chat and then sometimes even let me take her to a hotel and ... you get the picture :)

We really don't know we are born - us lucky bastards!!

[X Man]

What makes you think we don't know how lucky we are NOT to be in UK? I thought it was common knowledge.

X

[QUOTE=Gamahucher]Guys out there you don't know how lucky you are. I'm in the UK at the moment QUOTE]

[Blackangst]

F/F:

mmkay I apologoze for not taking your comments as tongue in cheek as you intended. My apologies =)

Sure theres an exception to every rule. But the fact is tourist visas out of the phils are rare. I cant comment on your friend's situation, but do some reading up - they ARE rare.

[Amavida]

F/F:

mmkay I apologoze for not taking your comments as tongue in cheek as you intended. My apologies =)

Sure theres an exception to every rule. But the fact is tourist visas out of the phils are rare. I cant comment on your friend's situation, but do some reading up - they ARE rare.Australian government does not issue tourist visa's to filippina's without proof of substantial financial assets. Just thought I'd throw that in there in case anyone wanted to know.
AV

[Ekspat]

Here most of the women have asses like the backs of busses
I guess thats why I've been back to Europe for 5 days only in the past 8 years.
:D :D :D

[Blackangst]

Australian government does not issue tourist visa's to filippina's without proof of substantial financial assets. Just thought I'd throw that in there in case anyone wanted to know.
AV

This is the same as America. More closely the way it happens...the Phils wont APPROVE a visa without substantial assets. Why? They know people want to get out, and they want some kind of assurance they will come back. Otherwise, whats to stop half the country from "touristing" in Europe/Australia/USA and not returning?

[Ran Cide]

I've heard that many in PH do it without condom.

How is the HIV situation there?

[Nvslim]

I've heard that many in PH do it without condom.

How is the HIV situation there?

Its not just HIV/AIDS, its the new drug resistant strains of common STDs.

Safe sex is a must or its like playing Russian Roulette with 5 chambers loaded.

Slim

[Ran Cide]

Of course. But even though I always use protection I still don't feel so tempted by the thought of sleeping with an HIV infected person.

[Blackangst]

I've heard that many in PH do it without condom.

How is the HIV situation there?

Yes barebacking is VERY common for alot of reasons. But to specifically answer your question, according to WHO the infection rate is the lowest of all SE asia, and pretty low overall.

As a side note, please make sure you go through your series of vaccinations before you come. The possibility of getting a nasty can be diminished, and theres more here than by sex. At a minimum make sure you have tetenous, typhoid, hep B and hep C.

[Model Chaser]

At a minimum make sure you have tetenous, typhoid, hep B and hep C.Twinrix is type a and b.

I don't think there's a shot for c.

[Ekspat]

according to WHO the infection rate is the lowest of all SE asia,
Wrong, the lowest is in North Korea..... :D


make sure you have tetenous, typhoid, hep B and hep C.
There is no vaccination against Hep C.
A and B only.

Cheers!

[Blackangst]

Wrong, the lowest is in North Korea..... :D

ROFL ok I should say of the nations where we actually HAVE data :p



There is no vaccination against Hep C.
A and B only.

My bad. Youre right I should have said A/B...B being the most important for us :)

Touche!

[Nvslim]

Here is a good site from the U.S. Gov about traveling to the P.I.

http://wwwn.cdc.gov/travel/destinationPhilippines.aspx

Slim

[Puerto La Cruz]

Reads like a military sex film.

[Samar 2009]

Could any of you fellow mongers settle a dispute I have with a friend of mine?

My friend told me that when his was in Angeles last month, he bar fined a girl for one night for 1,300 PHP. He was so impressed with the service the girl gave him the first night, that he decided to keep her for the remainder of his trip, ( 16 days). He approached the mamassan and asked her if he can get a long term discount on the bar fine.

The mamassan advised him the following:

He can pay 26,000 PHP to the bar and the girl is his to keep not just for 16 days, but as long as he wants in this trip and all his subsequent trips he dosn't have to pay the bar fine anymore, as long as the girl is still working in the same bar of course. But he had to ask the girl if she will agree to that.

Of the 26,000 that he paid to the bar, the girl gets half of that PHP 13,000.

Option 2 was to pay the bar PHP 13,000, the girl gets nothing of that, but he had to negotiate with the girl how much she wanted. Again if the girl came to an aggreement with him, he didn't have to pay any more bar fines forever.

Has anyone heard of such an arrangment ever?

[Aussiec]

I have not heard of all bars doing this. However one of the first trips i took to ac i really like one of the girls from Perimeter Rd. It worked EXACTLY like you said in your question. Did I take up the bar on this offer? Well no I did not but it would be interesting to see if the bar would honor that "lifetime barfine" on my return.

[Rubberyman]

LOL Ace.

I have not heard of that one, but even if the ladies do not have a day off, by my calculations even if he paid the barfine in full for the sixteen days, it would only amount to 20,800 Pesos with the lady's cut included.

Of course if she had a day off, or two, it would only be her cut for those days, so even cheaper, say 19000 Pesos or so.

And then if she were menstruating for some of that time???

So while I have not heard of that particular swindle, it sounds to me like the mamasan saw him coming and added the 'noddy tax'.

He would be better to ask the lady when her period was, and then pay the full barfine up to that point.

[Samar 2009]

Exactly what I said to him, after I did my calculations also.

His point is, that he doesn't have to bar fine the girl again, on his next trip.

He is planning to go to AC again in July for three weeks.

My point is, if he is lucky enough, to find the same girl, working in the same bar LOL


LOL Ace.

I have not heard of that one, but even if the ladies do not have a day off, by my calculations even if he paid the barfine in full for the sixteen days, it would only amount to 20,800 Pesos with the lady's cut included.

Of course if she had a day off, or two, it would only be her cut for those days, so even cheaper, say 19000 Pesos or so.

And then if she were menstruating for some of that time???

So while I have not heard of that particular swindle, it sounds to me like the mamasan saw him coming and added the 'noddy tax'.

He would be better to ask the lady when her period was, and then pay the full barfine up to that point.

[Mayntain]

I have a friend in Cebu and her best friend is top girl in Silver dollar bar. I ask her about her friend,and she told me Korean guy liftime barfine her!!! So im guessing she is talking about the same thing.

[Sagramore]

You are referring to what is know as the "steady barfine"; It works exactly how you describe.

It is nothing new to Angeles, it really is meant for a guy who meets a girl and wants her to be his steady girlfriend and take her out of the bar. The bar does have an "investment" in the girl and wants to be compensated. There are many who think this is pure BS and refuse to pay it. To each his own I always say...

For what it's worth; I know of several bargirls who have had two or more "steady barfines" and are still working at the bar!

Cheers!

[Samar 2009]

You are referring to what is know as the "steady barfine"; It works exactly how you describe.

It is nothing new to Angeles, it really is meant for a guy who meets a girl and wants her to be his steady girlfriend and take her out of the bar. The bar does have an "investment" in the girl and wants to be compensated. There are many who think this is pure BS and refuse to pay it. To each his own I always say...

For what it's worth; I know of several bargirls who have had two or more "steady barfines" and are still working at the bar!

Cheers!Thanks Sag,

Actually after I've had another get together with my friend, he told me that the girl will go back and work in the same bar after he's gone back, however when he's back in July, he'll go back to the same bar, get the girl and he wont pay 1 centavo. He will just pay the girl only.

From what I understand what you have quoted above is what my friend actually said. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Cheers,

Ace

[Cunning Stunt]

LOL Ace.

And then if she were menstruating for some of that time???



On one of my first trips to Angeles, I'd found a sweet, accommodating lass (who'd do my laundry/ironing as well as bonk my brains out) and, being fed up with Angeles, asked her if she wanted to go travelling up to NW Luzon with me. She loved the idea but I had to approach her Papasan. So I did and we quickly agreed terms for a 3 week bf. But, I said, what about if 'Aunt Flo' turns up unexpectedly while we are away. Quite logically he replied 'Thats OK, her mouth and her ass don't bleed' Couldn't argue with that.

As it happened Flo did turn up so I followed Papasans advice (but not her ass - she wasn't that sort of girl:D).

[Marc1206]

Can you buy Levitra in Manila, like you can in Tijuana?

[Amavida]

Can you buy Levitra in Manila, like you can in Tijuana?Generic Viagra & Cialis is available on the streets everywhere (& in pharmacies/drug stores). Although I have never looked i would be surprised if Levitra isn't available in pharmacies/drug stores.
AV

[Cowboy Mike]

Generic Viagra & Cialis is available on the streets everywhere (& in pharmacies/drug stores). Although I have never looked i would be surprised if Levitra isn't available in pharmacies/drug stores.

AVThere have been 2 reported deaths from taking the fake/generic drugs here in singpaore in the past month.

It seems the chemist have added medication (filler) for Diabetics and it's reported that it's twice the suggested dosage.

Not worth the risk to buy off the street/bars and I would be cautious to by under the table from pharmacies or drug stores.

However, your mileage may vary.

[Amavida]

There have been 2 reported deaths from taking the fake/generic drugs here in singpaore in the past month.
It seems the chemist have added medication (filler) for Diabetics and it's reported that it's twice the suggested dosage.
Not worth the risk to buy off the street/bars and I would be cautious to by under the table from pharmacies or drug stores.
However, your mileage may vary.There is a lot of gov't propaganda always about dont buy the generic of the street. Thousands of guys buy it daily here. I've used it & never had problem. As u say YMMV
AV

[Sammon]

Do not fall into the trap of steady Barfine. It is a scam told by the girl so that she makes money as well as the bar. As far as I know if the girl leaves the bar in spite of signing to work cetain number of years it is not enforcable. Because of anti slavery law.
Always go pick up a girl,fuck her and leave her. There is no guarantee that if you pay steady barfine she will yours and yours only for life.
One girl who I liked pressured me to get the steady barfine for her but i refused. In spite of that she travelled with me for two weeks without me paying any barfine.
This clearly shows that the girl is not bound to the bar and she can leave anytime. So when you are in town she can take off anytime she want saying she is going home for some emergency. So there is no need for steady barfine.

[X Man]

I agree that you would be unwise to pay a steady barfine, but not sure I want to support the fk em and lv em methodology of Sammon.

And I will disagree on another point. It is not the "scam" of the bargirl...it is the business of the bar. Some girls follow the bar lead and make a dime, but others willl let a barfine turn into a romantic weekend....or week, or whatever.

x





Do not fall into the trap of steady Barfine. It is a scam told by the girl so that she makes money as well as the bar. As far as I know if the girl leaves the bar in spite of signing to work cetain number of years it is not enforcable. Because of anti slavery law.
Always go pick up a girl,fuck her and leave her. There is no guarantee that if you pay steady barfine she will yours and yours only for life.
One girl who I liked pressured me to get the steady barfine for her but i refused. In spite of that she travelled with me for two weeks without me paying any barfine.
This clearly shows that the girl is not bound to the bar and she can leave anytime. So when you are in town she can take off anytime she want saying she is going home for some emergency. So there is no need for steady barfine.

[Samar 2009]

I agree that you would be unwise to pay a steady barfine, but not sure I want to support the fk em and lv em methodology of Sammon.

And I will disagree on another point. It is not the "scam" of the bargirl...it is the business of the bar. Some girls follow the bar lead and make a dime, but others willl let a barfine turn into a romantic weekend....or week, or whatever.

xThanks X.

I showed your comments to my friend and he agreed with you 100%.

He told me that he got an email from her, telling him that she is actually against the idea of him paying the Steady Bar fine. She said that she will take the month off work in order to avoid paying the bar fine, of course the only thing is that they can't go bar hopping together in the bar she worked.

According to my friend, the 13,000 he was willing to pay for the steady bar fine, the girl wasn't to get a dime. All of the 13,000 go to the bar so the girl is actually doing him a favour.

Thanks X and all you fellow punters.

Ace

[Aussiec]

Well, I'm in Sidney now and heading back to AC.

So happy because I had the blues for a while.

[X Man]

Any thanks are very premature. If your friend is head over heels with this girl, it might not be a good thing. Does he have experience in the Philippines and with Filipinas?

She has told him that the perm bar fine wouldn't benefit her ....but I have to wonder. Is this a case of her telling him what he wants to hear??? I suspect your friend would rather give her the money directly, and I'm sure she would prefer it that way too. Maybe she is doing herself a favor!

Bar hopping? If he wants to spend time with this lady, why stay in AC? If she speaks Visayan, go to Cebu. Go to Dumaguete! Go to Davao!

I know some like the variety of bars in AC, the drink, the threesomes....but if you already have a "steady" shagfriend, being in AC is a bit redundant.

One of the most stunning women I've ever bonked in the Philippines, was also very clever. I paid her barfine out of EDSA and she stayed with me for three days (bars invoke fines for this kind of thing) and she rocked my world. I paid her about 1k per day which would have covered her fines only. The next visit to Philippines, I had not told her I was coming, and her text came in minutes after I had added load - I was till at the airport.

She is now married in the USA. As much as I loved/lusted this woman, I'm very glad I'm not married to her. She knew what she wanted and was damn good at getting it.

Maybe I digress.....

X


Thanks X.

I showed your comments to my friend and he agreed with you 100%.

He told me that he got an email from her, telling him that she is actually against the idea of him paying the Steady Bar fine. She said that she will take the month off work in order to avoid paying the bar fine, of course the only thing is that they can't go bar hopping together in the bar she worked.

According to my friend, the 13,000 he was willing to pay for the steady bar fine, the girl wasn't to get a dime. All of the 13,000 go to the bar so the girl is actually doing him a favour.

Thanks X and all you fellow punters.

Ace

[Samar 2009]

Thanks again X.

You are right. Once you have a steady shagfriend, I believe Angeles is not the place to spend your vacation.

However I believe he wanted to stay in Angeles, only because he likes the threesome routine occasionally. That's what I believe from what he told me so far. I've arrived to that conclusion because he told me that he's told me that he's got the hots for her friend also, and he likes the threesome routine occasionally.

I'll show him your post, when he comes past my place again.

Regards,

Ace






Any thanks are very premature. If your friend is head over heels with this girl, it might not be a good thing. Does he have experience in the Philippines and with Filipinas?

She has told him that the perm bar fine wouldn't benefit her ....but I have to wonder. Is this a case of her telling him what he wants to hear??? I suspect your friend would rather give her the money directly, and I'm sure she would prefer it that way too. Maybe she is doing herself a favor!

Bar hopping? If he wants to spend time with this lady, why stay in AC? If she speaks Visayan, go to Cebu. Go to Dumaguete! Go to Davao!

I know some like the variety of bars in AC, the drink, the threesomes....but if you already have a "steady" shagfriend, being in AC is a bit redundant.

One of the most stunning women I've ever bonked in the Philippines, was also very clever. I paid her barfine out of EDSA and she stayed with me for three days (bars invoke fines for this kind of thing) and she rocked my world. I paid her about 1k per day which would have covered her fines only. The next visit to Philippines, I had not told her I was coming, and her text came in minutes after I had added load - I was till at the airport.

She is now married in the USA. As much as I loved/lusted this woman, I'm very glad I'm not married to her. She knew what she wanted and was damn good at getting it.

Maybe I digress.....

X

[Cheap Meat]

I am searching all over southeast asia for cheap pussy and I can't find anything. I heard that Philippines still has loads of poverty. Sounds good! LOL. Seriously, do you think Philippines still has cheap pussy? I'm not talking about the western visited areas like AC. I want to hang out with the local guys and get some local prices for meat. Sound doable? I'm moving to Asia soon to live permanently so I can get cheaper prices. Cheap Meat is no longer Mr. Pushover tourist! I'll do anything to get cheaper pussy, even if it means hanging out in the slums and garbage dumps all day. Hehehheh.

[Maaars]

Guys, need some assistance and advice. Here's my predicament..... I'm in Makati at the moment, and usually have no problem picking up something for the evening at EDSA and taking back to the hotel...........but problem is the wife came with me this time so not an option :(
I can get out for a few hours in the evening so am looking for somewhere I can get a girl for short time and do the business. Options might be something like they have in Jakarta or Bangkok (fishbowl-type arrangement) or maybe can get some entertainment at EDSA then find a short-time room somewhere......... any advice on places nearby ? I'm here til Tue, so time is tight......... cheers for assistance........... Maaars

[Horntoad]

I went to two massage parlors with fishbowls in Makati. Try Palacion Don Pedro off of Kalayaan ave and also Phoenix one off of Pasay Rd. You won't have any problems finding something to poke!!


Guys, need some assistance and advice. Here's my predicament..... I'm in Makati at the moment, and usually have no problem picking up something for the evening at EDSA and taking back to the hotel...........but problem is the wife came with me this time so not an option :(
I can get out for a few hours in the evening so am looking for somewhere I can get a girl for short time and do the business. Options might be something like they have in Jakarta or Bangkok (fishbowl-type arrangement) or maybe can get some entertainment at EDSA then find a short-time room somewhere......... any advice on places nearby ? I'm here til Tue, so time is tight......... cheers for assistance........... Maaars

[X Man]

although I've never been to such places, there are a lot of love hotels near EDSA ( I assume you mean EDSA Entertainmenr) down in Pasay.


Guys, need some assistance and advice.... Maaars

[FireWalker]

Could any of you fellow mongers settle a dispute I have with a friend of mine?

My friend told me that when his was in Angeles last month, he bar fined a girl for one night for 1,300 PHP. He was so impressed with the service the girl gave him the first night, that he decided to keep her for the remainder of his trip, ( 16 days). He approached the mamassan and asked her if he can get a long term discount on the bar fine.

The mamassan advised him the following:

He can pay 26,000 PHP to the bar and the girl is his to keep not just for 16 days, but as long as he wants in this trip and all his subsequent trips he dosn't have to pay the bar fine anymore, as long as the girl is still working in the same bar of course. But he had to ask the girl if she will agree to that.

Of the 26,000 that he paid to the bar, the girl gets half of that PHP 13,000.

Option 2 was to pay the bar PHP 13,000, the girl gets nothing of that, but he had to negotiate with the girl how much she wanted. Again if the girl came to an aggreement with him, he didn't have to pay any more bar fines forever.

Has anyone heard of such an arrangment ever?

The mamasan was kinda scamming him. She would just say that he misunderstood on the subsequent trip. Besides, the "relationship" would probably not survive till next trip. She would probably log the 16 days and pocket the difference. The girl would go along with that fine.

If you or a friend are ever "serious" about a girl, she can just leave the bar and you can pay her a stipend (send her just enough that she doesn't have to barfine). I have a girl there and I don't pay the bar a cent. She still works because she gets bored staying at home. The bar knows I am her boyfriend (I am also considered a friend of the bar). When I am there she tells them and they let her off work. If we go to her bar for a drink, I have never paid a lady drink price for her. I am not a total cheap charlie though, I usually buy pizza for everyone now and then and usually ring the bell once on a trip. One reason I get away with it is that my girl is pretty valuable there. All the regulars know her and how many girls can sell over 20 LD's in a day and not barfine? She hasn't barfined with sex involved in about 2 years.

[Samar 2009]

Thanks FW for your info. Actually my friend was impressed with the arrangment that you have with the girl and the bar.

Of course as you have said, your girl is valuable to the bar and you are a regular and friends with the bar owner as well. My friend said that you are the best.

I believe my friend is realy hooked up with his girl and he might try the same avenue as you did. He has asked me to ask you, how much do you send your girl, in order for her not to get bar fined, just to work in the bar and sell lady drinks.

Thanks again,

Ace


The mamasan was kinda scamming him. She would just say that he misunderstood on the subsequent trip. Besides, the "relationship" would probably not survive till next trip. She would probably log the 16 days and pocket the difference. The girl would go along with that fine.

If you or a friend are ever "serious" about a girl, she can just leave the bar and you can pay her a stipend (send her just enough that she doesn't have to barfine). I have a girl there and I don't pay the bar a cent. She still works because she gets bored staying at home. The bar knows I am her boyfriend (I am also considered a friend of the bar). When I am there she tells them and they let her off work. If we go to her bar for a drink, I have never paid a lady drink price for her. I am not a total cheap charlie though, I usually buy pizza for everyone now and then and usually ring the bell once on a trip. One reason I get away with it is that my girl is pretty valuable there. All the regulars know her and how many girls can sell over 20 LD's in a day and not barfine? She hasn't barfined with sex involved in about 2 years.

[Model Chaser]

I'm currently in PI, having arrived on the 25th. I'm leaving on the morning of the 15th of June and given my rudimentary math skills, that I thought was 21 days. However it's actually 22 days.

So, what's the consequence of overstaying your visa by less than 1 day? I arrived on the 25th at 10pm, and am departing at 9am so it's by the hour actually less than 21 days. Will I run into any problems at the airport on my way home?

Thanks,

MC.

[Psdai]

I'm currently in PI, having arrived on the 25th. I'm leaving on the morning of the 15th of June and given my rudimentary math skills, that I thought was 21 days. However it's actually 22 days.

So, what's the consequence of overstaying your visa by less than 1 day? I arrived on the 25th at 10pm, and am departing at 9am so it's by the hour actually less than 21 days. Will I run into any problems at the airport on my way home?

Thanks,

MC.I have no personal experience with over staying my visa but this is cut and paste from the US Dept of State page regarding it:

ENTRY/EXIT REQUIREMENTS: U.S. citizens may enter the Philippines without a visa upon presentation of their U.S. passport, valid for at least six months after the date of entry into the Philippines, and a return ticket to the United States or an onward ticket to another country. Upon arrival immigration authorities will annotate your passport with an entry visa valid for 21 days. If you plan to stay longer than 21 days you must apply for an extension at the Philippine Bureau of Immigration and Deportation's main office at Magallanes Drive; Intramuros, Manila, Philippines, or at any of its provincial offices (http://www.immigration.gov.ph).

Persons who overstay their visas are subject to fines and detention by Philippine immigration authorities. American citizens are urged to remain aware of their visa status while in the Philippines and to strictly follow immigration laws and regulations. Travelers departing the country from international airports must pay a Passenger Service Charge in Philippine Pesos.

NOTE: It is my understanding that you can also get an extension on your visa at any accredited travel agency in the counrty. I know that there are several in AC that can do it for you. usuially when using them you do not need to go in person to the immigration office unless there is a problem.

I would recommend starting on it now so you know if they can get it done or if you will need to change your flight

[Cunning Stunt]

I'm currently in PI, having arrived on the 25th. I'm leaving on the morning of the 15th of June and given my rudimentary math skills, that I thought was 21 days. However it's actually 22 days.

So, what's the consequence of overstaying your visa by less than 1 day? I arrived on the 25th at 10pm, and am departing at 9am so it's by the hour actually less than 21 days. Will I run into any problems at the airport on my way home?

Thanks,

MC.

Hi Model, Check Amavida's recent posts. He answered a similar question not so long ago and posted a useful link.

You might get away without any penalty as its only the one day. If not 500 pesos tops (or an 'accidental' P200 left in your passport for the Immigration Official to find, depending on how comfortable you feel with that). GH

[Toby I]

I'm currently in PI, having arrived on the 25th. I'm leaving on the morning of the 15th of June and given my rudimentary math skills, that I thought was 21 days. However it's actually 22 days.

So, what's the consequence of overstaying your visa by less than 1 day? I arrived on the 25th at 10pm, and am departing at 9am so it's by the hour actually less than 21 days. Will I run into any problems at the airport on my way home?

Thanks,

MC.You are safe. First day doesn't count. 26th is your first day of 21.

[Buko Max]

So, what's the consequence of overstaying your visa by less than 1 day? I arrived on the 25th at 10pm, and am departing at 9am so it's by the hour actually less than 21 days. Will I run into any problems at the airport on my way home?
Actually they don't start counting until the next day, so you will be fine.
Recently overstayed by one day and they did not notice.

[Nightrider1]

Here is my story about Phil Immigration. In March I spent 44 days in Phil and got a 59 day visa at the Phil consulate in the usa before the trip. When I was leaving the Manila to head home I handed my passport to the official and he looked at it and asked when I arrived. After I told him he said I had to leave the line and get into the cashiers line at another window. I asked why and he said the other person at the cashier window will explain. Well ok I moved to the cashier window and handed the new guy my passport. He looked at it and asked when I arrived in Phil. I told him and he said I needed to pay a fine because I overstayed the 21 day visa. I explained to him that I had a 59 day visa and he said no and he showed me where the stamp was on the day I arrived and it said 21 day. HMM well i told him I hace a 59 day visa and that it was in my passport. He handed the passport back and told me to " show me" Well I have a LOT of stamps in my passport and have had extra pages added as well, but I found the visa extension and showed him. He then asked me if I had told the immigration official when I arrived in Phil that I had the 59 day visa and I said no I just handed him my passport as I always do. At that he told me that it was all MY fault ,he could STILL fine me because I should have told the guy when I arrived that I had a 59 day visa. HMMM well I knew I was in the right and I had complied with the immigration requirements but I also knew I had a plane to catch in an hour and he was the one in uniform holding my passport. I decided I did not want to miss my plane by assserting my innocence, and told him how Sorry I was that I did not do they right thing. Hearing that he did not lose face and said ok and he stamped my exit stamp and smiled and told me to have a good flight. You can bet from now on I WILL check my entrance stamp when I arrive and will not have to deal with this problem again.

[Fastpiston]

Here is my story about Phil Immigration. In March I spent 44 days in Phil and got a 59 day visa at the Phil consulate in the usa before the trip. When I was leaving the Manila to head home I handed my passport to the official and he looked at it and asked when I arrived. After I told him he said I had to leave the line and get into the cashiers line at another window. I asked why and he said the other person at the cashier window will explain. Well ok I moved to the cashier window and handed the new guy my passport. He looked at it and asked when I arrived in Phil. I told him and he said I needed to pay a fine because I overstayed the 21 day visa. I explained to him that I had a 59 day visa and he said no and he showed me where the stamp was on the day I arrived and it said 21 day. HMM well i told him I hace a 59 day visa and that it was in my passport. He handed the passport back and told me to " show me" Well I have a LOT of stamps in my passport and have had extra pages added as well, but I found the visa extension and showed him. He then asked me if I had told the immigration official when I arrived in Phil that I had the 59 day visa and I said no I just handed him my passport as I always do. At that he told me that it was all MY fault ,he could STILL fine me because I should have told the guy when I arrived that I had a 59 day visa. HMMM well I knew I was in the right and I had complied with the immigration requirements but I also knew I had a plane to catch in an hour and he was the one in uniform holding my passport. I decided I did not want to miss my plane by assserting my innocence, and told him how Sorry I was that I did not do they right thing. Hearing that he did not lose face and said ok and he stamped my exit stamp and smiled and told me to have a good flight. You can bet from now on I WILL check my entrance stamp when I arrive and will not have to deal with this problem again.

Whenever you arrive in Manila, YOU MUST inform the guy that you have a 59 day visa ON PAGE X. Most of the time the visa is not just before the last free page, so in a way I can sympathize that the officer cannot be expected to wade through a passport full of stamps, especially if there is a long line of growling visitors! IN ADDITION, after getting the stamp, CHECK CAREFULLY that they have put the correct entry stamp on with the expected final departure date. If it is wrong go back to the immigration counter and get them to fix it. In other words check, check, check. I know of a friend that had the same problem as you. In fact, if you have a visa for any country, tell the immigration officer on entry into that country. Saves hassle.

[Redfield10]

Ok, I have surfed and read hundreds of posts, but I still want to ask!

I've not been to the PI, but want to visit possibly in Nov. I've been to Thailand 5 times (BKK and all over) so have an idea of what Thailand is like. Also been to Cambodia and Vietnam.

I will probably spend a total of 16-18 days divided between Thailand and the PI. I want to do some mongering in the PI, but also some nice sites, etc. I'm fine with just seeing women at night. Or maybe a short time now and then.

So. Assuming like an 8-10 day stay in the PI. Where should I visit? I suppose I'd also fly to BKK first from San Fran and then do the left from BKK to the PI and back.

So. Cebu? Manila? Both? What do you suggest? Also, what do you suggest for hotels? I'd be looking at something mid-priced and girl friendly.

Thanks guys

[X Man]

I don't think AV posted a link, but this is the site where he got the info. Just search for "philippines, visa" and it comes out right on top.

http://www.gov.ph/faqs/visa.asp



Hi Model, Check Amavida's recent posts. He answered a similar question not so long ago and posted a useful link.

You might get away without any penalty as its only the one day. If not 500 pesos tops (or an 'accidental' P200 left in your passport for the Immigration Official to find, depending on how comfortable you feel with that). GH

[X Man]

Hmmm, Cebu / Visayans is best for "nice sites" such as beaches and beautiful scenery, but the nightlife in Manila offers a lot more.

A really beautiful site not far from Manila is the Taal Volcano.

I like the Executive in the Ermita area of Manila, but since I haven't stayed there in a few years, I'm probably not the best person to give a recommendation.

X




Ok, I have surfed and read hundreds of posts, but I still want to ask!

I've not been to the PI, but want to visit possibly in Nov. I've been to Thailand 5 times (BKK and all over) so have an idea of what Thailand is like. Also been to Cambodia and Vietnam.

I will probably spend a total of 16-18 days divided between Thailand and the PI. I want to do some mongering in the PI, but also some nice sites, etc. I'm fine with just seeing women at night. Or maybe a short time now and then.

So. Assuming like an 8-10 day stay in the PI. Where should I visit? I suppose I'd also fly to BKK first from San Fran and then do the left from BKK to the PI and back.

So. Cebu? Manila? Both? What do you suggest? Also, what do you suggest for hotels? I'd be looking at something mid-priced and girl friendly.

Thanks guys

[Towelboy2010]

Last March (2007), when I was visiting my GF in Quezon City, she bought me tickets to Corregidor Island. She came with me. I really enjoyed the tour. As long as you like things like that.

It is an hour boat ride out thru the manila bay. Most of the buildings are in a state of disrepair, but still worth seeing.
The "mile long" barracks was interesting for the enormity of it.
The gun emplacements were the highlight of the tour.


2 months ago I stayed at City Garden Suites in Ermita. It was fine and I had a 1 bedroom suite for about $90USD. Even better, I liked the proximity to the action of the LA CAfe and other small FL bars.

Enjoy.


Ok, I have surfed and read hundreds of posts, but I still want to ask!

I've not been to the PI, but want to visit possibly in Nov. I've been to Thailand 5 times (BKK and all over) so have an idea of what Thailand is like. Also been to Cambodia and Vietnam.

I will probably spend a total of 16-18 days divided between Thailand and the PI. I want to do some mongering in the PI, but also some nice sites, etc. I'm fine with just seeing women at night. Or maybe a short time now and then.

So. Assuming like an 8-10 day stay in the PI. Where should I visit? I suppose I'd also fly to BKK first from San Fran and then do the left from BKK to the PI and back.

So. Cebu? Manila? Both? What do you suggest? Also, what do you suggest for hotels? I'd be looking at something mid-priced and girl friendly.

Thanks guys

[Towelboy2010]

I spent so much time writing this PM, I thought I might as well post it. It was also way too long for a PM and would not send.
ENJOY.

Hi Redfield,

I am far from the pro monger of many of these other guys. I have been to the Phils 4 times in the last 16 months, so that's the extent of my experience, but I date a few Filipinas in seach of a S.O. as a primary objective and monger as a fun sideline. But I'm happy to share my experiences.

First, you need to understand me so you can judge my perspective. When I monger in the Phils, I LOVE variety. My dates fulfill the romantic need so my mongering is pure pleasure. Some guys like 1 (or 2 women) all night. That's not me. My first night in Angeles Dec 4, 2006 i was like a kid in a candy store. I didn't get my first barfine until midnight, but by 7am I had had 5 girls total that night - 3 solos and a double to end the night.

To the best of my knowledge there are 3 primary areas.
Burgeous St - My 1st ever mongering experience. I was here for 1 night in Nov 2003. Picked up 2 girls plus my date. Fun time, but it was my first so it flew by. I have never come back here because I hear to many negative comments about the prices. And as I average 3-4 girls a night....cost is a factor.

LA Cafe - this freelancer bar is my hands down favorite. I like it because of the atmosphere and how it works. First, there is no real "pressure" to buy anything - all the time - like in the gogo clubs at Burgous & EDSA. I try to get a seat at the bar, order a beer and just look around until i see soemone who meets my fancy. I walk over, talk and get a feeling or not. Make a deal or move on. Sometimes the social aspect of all the girls in the bar is as much fun as the fucking later.
As i think back over my 6 nites in La cafe....I had 18 girls total and 2 "bad" experiences. Of the remaining 16... about 12 were good to very good and 4 were stellar "knock ur socks off". The absolute cutest girl I ever had in the Philippines I found here at LA Cafe. Most of my tips (no bf) range from 1000 - 1500 and on ocassion i have tipped 2000.

EDSA - I have been here twice but i have never barfined anyone. The upside is it 8-10 gogo clubs in 1 building with a main lobby area so you can go to alot of different places quickly and easily. BF & tips are much better than Burgous.

Here is a perfect example of my rationalle. My last trip was mid March. I spent Sat nite & Sunday nite at LA. I also had Wed evening free so i went to LA, but after a beer decided to hop a cab to EDSA. I got there probably around 11pm and went in the Firehouse. Some cute spinner caught my eye right away. i was seated; drank a beer with a couple of the girls hanging around and finally got the eye-catcher to come over and sit. We chatted a bit then i asked about price. BF was 1000 and she wanted 2500. I thought this over. Tried to get her to come down a little on her tip, but she refused. I am weighing my options...3500???? At LA, I could get 2 girls plus a few drinks. So i hopped up and headed back to LA Cafe. I met 2 of the nicest girls that night, hung out with them up the street at G-spot and finally propositioned them - both for 3000 - all night. The one was so cute and adorable - the apple pie gf look - I am guessing 20 or 21. I had the best night and never once regretted leaving EDSA and coming back to LAC.

BARFINES - In manila, it is barfine plus a tip. In Angeles, the barfine is all inclusive.

There are NO guarantees regarding performance, but as i mentioned earlier, the lions share of my girls have been a great time. I had only one bad expereince in Angeles.

FLIGHTS - I would consider the Cathay Pacific All Asia pass 2008. For the $1099 flat rate you get SF to HK, + BKK + Manila. The only downside is HK is the hub so to get from BKK to MNL you need to go thru HK. The new jets that Cathay is flying are very nice. I always take my laptop & DVD's for my own inflight entertainment plus 5 batteries. The flt from NYC is 16 1/2 hours!!!The new jets have an AC outlet at each seat! They are just a tad bit roomier with a new seat design, but to me it makes all the difference in the world.
You can get to Cebu via Cebu Pacific for probably $80.

IF I KNEW THEN.............If mongering is your #1 objective, i would stay in Ermita and visit LA CAFE a few times. Amazonia & G-spot are only a block away and provide some diversion. EDSA was only a 15 minute cab ride so that is easily another option any given night if ur based in Ermita.

In the daytime, Rizal park, Mall of Asia, Robinsons, and the docks to Corregidor are nearby as well.

I would also go to Angeles for a few days as well. If you want to be crazy and throw caution to the wind, rent a car and drive to Angeles. I have been to Angeles 3 times and each time I drove myself. And each time I got stopped by the robber police and had to bribe my way out of the "ticket". I must be the only one to do this because NO mongers in Angeles have a car, of course Fields Ave is so small you don;t need one. Wild Orchid has 3 parking spaces and i had them all to myself on one trip. LOL. I do it because the freedom of driving makes me feel at home.

I've been to Cebu twice and don't see the value in going there if you have 8 days.

I guess I am all out of advise for now. No matter what, if you smile, the world smiles back and you'll have a great time. If only I could afford 1 more trip this year......


HI..thanks for your response. I have a few more questions if you don't mind...

1. Are there several "mongering" spots in the Manila area and which do you recommend?

2. I am reading that the bar fine is all inclusive. How does one ensure that performance follows? Is it better to find a freelancer??

3. Re: flights..certainly, I'll look...but off hand do you know the best flights generally from BKK to Manila and also Manila to Cebu and back? I'm assuming the best thing for me to do is fly from San Fran to Bangkok..then to Manila...then to Cebu and back to Manila (if I do this leg)....then back to BKK and back to San Fran..

4. Anything else I should know that you would have liked to know as a first-timer to the PI?

Thanks!!

[Redfield10]

Thanks for the great report.

Anything that anyone else wants to add will help me, too. It's tough. Planning that first trip. I remember trying to do the same a few years ago planning my first to BKK. Now that I've been there five times. It's no big deal. But the first time was!

[Redfield10]

Thanks TB for the great report!! If anyone else has general info on what to do in the PI (mongering or otherwise). Let me know.

Thanks, again.

Redfield

[Cho 637]

I found this on Craig'slist:

CUTE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% - w4m - 18
Reply to: pers-703149225@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-06-01, 1:26AM CDT


Here's a vacation offer that you will never forget! If you like hot young girls this is the vacation for you...IT'S LIKE HEAVEN!! Ten girls in ten days, 20 girls in ten days

TRIP OPTIONS: OK...here's how it works. Our destination is the Phillippines. You have three options which include:
1. Friends Trip - find 4 of your friends to go with you and set the day's of your choice.
2. Singles - Add your name to the singles list. There are typically 3 to 8 unknown people on this option.
3. Elite package - Consists of you and the guide only. This is the VERY discrete option. This option only requires a 7 days notice and is more expensive.

PRICING: Total cost of the trip for options 1 and 2 is $6,500 for 10 days in heaven. That's $650 a day which includes your airfare, hotel, food, drinks and girls. Not so bad if you do the math. The elite package is dependant on a number of factors so call or e-mail if you need additional info.

NOTE: NO MONEY DOWN for all three trips! You buy your flight and the guide picks you and others up at the airport. Cash will be transfered once you are in the Phillipines.

TIMING: These trips are set up throughout the entire year so pick your vacation days and give me a call.
For additional questions and booking dates you can call (586-567-2393) or e-maill from 9 am to 9pm eastern time.

Thanks for the interest.

[Professional]

Questions for all you guys:

I am thinking of purchasing a condo as an investment maybe around Makati area or Metro Manila? What do you guys think will be the problems with this? I am unfamiliar with the area in terms of appreciation and quality built. From the last time I was around metro manila the quality of material used and craftsmanship did not seem to be there like in the good old USA but not sure if that has changed. I did an analysis of the cost vs renting it out and found a positive cash flow if financed 30 years like here in USA.

My question is will it hold up for thirty years? Will it appreciate? If not what would be the point?

Xman I know you looked into this a few years ago, if you don't mind me asking what did you find?

Thanks you guys!

Ps I will be asking the same question in Dragon slayer forum.

[Ken_Apples]

Hello Gentlemen!

In Thailand it is possible to find girls with big tits (not superbig, but "big").

I'm really interested in going to Philippines, and need some input on how good chances are to get "at least the same size as in thailand".

What's your oppinion, is it the same chance to find semi-big tits girls in Philippines, compared to Thailand?

I'm also into really dark skin girls, any tips on where to get that in Phil?

Good greetings to all / Ken Apples

[Gaijin Gigolo]

Incredible....$650 per day????? LOL! This guy must be out of his mind...some construction company manager in Detroit thinks he's going to get rich quick I suppose...

David Sandercott
(Operating Manager)
Rely-on Construction Incorporated
23914 Elmira Street
Saint Clair Shores, MI 48082
t: (586)567-2393

http://www.relyonconstruction.com/gpage.html



I found this on Craig'slist:

CUTE %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% - w4m - 18
Reply to: pers-703149225@craigslist.org
Date: 2008-06-01, 1:26AM CDT


Here's a vacation offer that you will never forget! If you like hot young girls this is the vacation for you...IT'S LIKE HEAVEN!! Ten girls in ten days, 20 girls in ten days

TRIP OPTIONS: OK...here's how it works. Our destination is the Phillippines. You have three options which include:
1. Friends Trip - find 4 of your friends to go with you and set the day's of your choice.
2. Singles - Add your name to the singles list. There are typically 3 to 8 unknown people on this option.
3. Elite package - Consists of you and the guide only. This is the VERY discrete option. This option only requires a 7 days notice and is more expensive.

PRICING: Total cost of the trip for options 1 and 2 is $6,500 for 10 days in heaven. That's $650 a day which includes your airfare, hotel, food, drinks and girls. Not so bad if you do the math. The elite package is dependant on a number of factors so call or e-mail if you need additional info.

NOTE: NO MONEY DOWN for all three trips! You buy your flight and the guide picks you and others up at the airport. Cash will be transfered once you are in the Phillipines.

TIMING: These trips are set up throughout the entire year so pick your vacation days and give me a call.
For additional questions and booking dates you can call (586-567-2393) or e-maill from 9 am to 9pm eastern time.

Thanks for the interest.

[Puerto La Cruz]

After airfae, $6,500.00 equals spending money for 3.25 trips for me. You gotta be shitt'n me.

[HornyGeorge]

A couple examples for you:

[Member #3418]

Actually guys. If you do some of the math. Its not all that out of line. Maybe a little. But lets take out the cost of airfare (not the super dooper special advertised deals that only exist in the newspaper add and you can never actually book at that price) Real prices that you pay each trip. Figure in cost of a nice hotel room (not some 200 peso a day hovel). All your meals in a decent restaurant (not 25 peso street food). Your drinks (some of you put away alot of booze. Could be a big bill). And then the ladies. What is a really nice Makati type piece (not the 300 peso Ermita streetwalker with no teeth) of tail going for these days out of the clubs. Plus if you've never been there a guide to help you around (ok. Most of us don't NEED this part).

. And the total isn't that far off.

I learned this when figuring overseas moving costs. Door to door versus me doing all the leg-work. For an extra couple hundred bucks. I had no hassle.

[Naked Gunz]

Actually guys. If you do some of the math. Its not all that out of line. Maybe a little. But lets take out the cost of airfare (not the super dooper special advertised deals that only exist in the newspaper add and you can never actually book at that price) Real prices that you pay each trip. Figure in cost of a nice hotel room (not some 200 peso a day hovel). All your meals in a decent restaurant (not 25 peso street food). Your drinks (some of you put away alot of booze. Could be a big bill). And then the ladies. What is a really nice Makati type piece (not the 300 peso Ermita streetwalker with no teeth) of tail going for these days out of the clubs. Plus if you've never been there a guide to help you around (ok. Most of us don't NEED this part).And the total isn't that far off.

I learned this when figuring overseas moving costs. Door to door versus me doing all the leg-work. For an extra couple hundred bucks. I had no hassle.Dude,

This price seems way out of line, UNLESS your doing FIVE STAR hotel, flight, food and f*ckin. As in f*ckin actresses, (which can also be arranged). But as a man that's paid to go there, and because of the falling dollar and rising gas, I will admit to being out of touch somewhat. I'm so inclined to say these are newbie prices.

[Member #3418]

Which I think you missed. Was that when you look on the surface things look Waaaaaaay out of line. But if you are not a total "Cheap Charlie" or "Back-Packer" minded. When you dig a little deeper and think about it. And add in all of the "Costs". Then its not quite as out there as originally thought. Do not mis-understand me. I don't pay these prices. And normally do my research before going somewhere new. And I then "Fumble" my way through the new locale picking up on the local ropes.

But. If you do bother to break out all of the costs. While high. Its not all that high given that you are paying for a service.

[Fifty Fifty]

Actually guys. If you do some of the math. Its not all that out of line. Maybe a little. But lets take out the cost of airfare (not the super dooper special advertised deals that only exist in the newspaper add and you can never actually book at that price) Real prices that you pay each trip. Figure in cost of a nice hotel room (not some 200 peso a day hovel). All your meals in a decent restaurant (not 25 peso street food). Your drinks (some of you put away alot of booze. Could be a big bill). And then the ladies. What is a really nice Makati type piece (not the 300 peso Ermita streetwalker with no teeth) of tail going for these days out of the clubs. Plus if you've never been there a guide to help you around (ok. Most of us don't NEED this part).. And the total isn't that far off.
Some things just dont add up, IMHO it is miles off reality.

I found this on Craig'slist:..............
PRICING: Total cost of the trip for options 1 and 2 is $6,500 for 10 days in heaven. That's $650 a day which includes your airfare, hotel, food, drinks and girls. Not so bad if you do the math......
Ok so is it Ten Days or do we take out two for the flights there and back?

If the $6500 includes the Airfare then why this......?


NOTE: NO MONEY DOWN for all three trips! You buy your flight and the guide picks you and others up at the airport. Cash will be transfered once you are in the Phillipines.
You buy your flight?? Do I get a choice of Operator/Class of Flight?

Ok so I booked the trip, paid my airfare and then what?? Do we subtract what I paid for my flight from the agreed $6500 fee??

If so then I am going to fly Business Class from the US so should hand I then hand over the balance ($6500-Flight) to the ''Guide'' on arrival in Phils?

He is going to be pissed off when I show him my $3500 Ticket Stub and give him the rest of the deal :)

Obviously that is not going to work, so lets get real.

LAX to Manila (R) = c $1200, 8/9 Nights Good Hotel = c $1000, 8/9 Days Good Food = c $500, 8/9 Nights Beer/Drinks etc = c $800

Now we still have around $3K + left - that will get a lot of girls, even at stupid prices a guy could only do $1K if he tried, so somebody is making money here.

If it turns out to be an average $50 Hotel and average food, which incidentally is good enough for me, then somebody is making a whole lot of money.

PM Me for a ''Better Guided Tour Deal" e.g. You buy me a beer or two and we will have a good time - Keep your $6500 too.

Cheers, F/Fifty

[X Man]

It's kind of fun just thinking about this. Adding in air far, I estimate I spend $300 a day for a ten day trip -- maybe less for the 20-day trips.

Add in a domestic flight, some shopping, new eyeglasses and maybe some dental work and I'm still under $400.

I stick to mostly 2000 pesos hotel rooms, and often eat Filipino food -- occasionally splurging when the mood arises.

Of course you could stay at the Diamond Hotel for 8000 pesos a night.
http://diamondhotel-manila.com/
Exchange conversion: http://www.xe.com/ucc/convert.cgi


*** Daywalker may have a point. If you've never been to SE Asia, have no idea of the costs/culture/logistics, and want a trustworthy fellow Westerner to go with you and hold your newbie hand....the extra cost may be worth it. (I think CHerry blossom also offers overpriced dating/marriage tours.) I suspect there are more than a few lurkers here who read ISG, but just can't bring themselves to make the trip.

[Gaijin Gigolo]

I have to totally disagree. This figure if miles off, as others have said. You could even do SINGAPORE (where I'm living) for much less than that.


Actually guys. If you do some of the math. Its not all that out of line. Maybe a little. But lets take out the cost of airfare (not the super dooper special advertised deals that only exist in the newspaper add and you can never actually book at that price) Real prices that you pay each trip. Figure in cost of a nice hotel room (not some 200 peso a day hovel). All your meals in a decent restaurant (not 25 peso street food). Your drinks (some of you put away alot of booze. Could be a big bill). And then the ladies. What is a really nice Makati type piece (not the 300 peso Ermita streetwalker with no teeth) of tail going for these days out of the clubs. Plus if you've never been there a guide to help you around (ok. Most of us don't NEED this part).

. And the total isn't that far off.

I learned this when figuring overseas moving costs. Door to door versus me doing all the leg-work. For an extra couple hundred bucks. I had no hassle.

[Member #3418]

It all depends on how I feel on a particular trip. I have times when I enjoy bottom feeding and there are times when I like living at the top. At this point in my life I tend to stay in Suite style rooms with separate living/dining area from the sleeping area. I just like the feeling of space and am willing to pay for it. Having said that I don't frequent Makati venues or partake of what I personally consider to often be inflated pricing. I regularly see guys drop 300+ dollars a night while there on booze and cooze. Night in and night out. Not counting their cab fares all around the city. Their Hotel room. Their flights. Their food. Etc.

The one thing that I notice on all of the boards that I frequent is the overall "Backpacker" mentality of making it a contest almost to see who got the cheapest pussy or survived on their world trip the longest on a dollar and fifty cents. Woe unto anyone who pays twenty-five cents more than the rock bottom price possible. Because then that person has fucked it up for everyone else.

I also notice (often from people that are themselves self-employed or business owners) an rather large propensity to ***** or state just how far out of line any service being offered is. When the person providing the service attempts to make any profit at all. Isn't that the reason that anyone goes into business?

I'm not connected or supporting this person's offer in any way. I just get kind of tired of the same old [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about how stupid someone is for paying an extra buck. Or how that person is the reason they no longer have five dollar pussy available. And how they've fucked it up for everyone else by over paying. Or how every time someone tries to offer a service here. They are flamed to shit for trying to actually "Gawd-Forbid" make a buck.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

[Travel Spirit]

My friend asked his filipina to send him the marriage licence and he received the following document (which is an application form for CENOMAR). She has long ago the invitation letter. Do you think that everything is OK?

[Puerto La Cruz]

I am self employed and will remain self employed. What's the problem with that?? The only way I can get there 4 or 5 times a year is to be self employed.

And I make alot more money than if I was "employed"

Anyway, this an information board rather than an employment board.

Will start contributing in that context again.

[Member #3418]

I wasn't slamming anyone for being self-employed. In fact, I owned my own company for many years when I still lived in the states. My comment was simply about an attitude that often times comes from that very same contingent and seems to be against anyone offering them a service while on vacation making a profit. People tend to expect five-star service combined with "Back-Packer" prices.

[Romello]

Hey mates,

Question for you guys.

I will be in Manila for 2 days end of June, and I'm looking for things to get into during the day.

Anyone know of any good massage parlors or some good spots for some daytime fun in Manila?

Any info is appreciated!

[Ekspat]

The one thing that I notice on all of the boards that I frequent is the overall "Backpacker" mentality of making it a contest almost to see who got the cheapest pussy..........

I just get kind of tired of the same old [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about how stupid someone is for paying an extra buck. Or how that person is the reason they no longer have five dollar pussy available.
Nothing to add, you're totally right!
Fully supported. Thumbs up!

Cheers!

[Gaijin Gigolo]

$650 per day, or even $350 after subtracting business class airfare, could hardly be considered 'bottom feeding' or living like a backpacker. Do you really think this joker advertising this trip at $6500 doesn't expect to make a HUGE profit? Why else would he be doing it?

This isn't a contest to see who spends the least, but it's a matter or practicality and the point of not overpaying for no reason. I think we're all in favor of that.




It all depends on how I feel on a particular trip. I have times when I enjoy bottom feeding and there are times when I like living at the top. At this point in my life I tend to stay in Suite style rooms with separate living/dining area from the sleeping area. I just like the feeling of space and am willing to pay for it. Having said that I don't frequent Makati venues or partake of what I personally consider to often be inflated pricing. I regularly see guys drop 300+ dollars a night while there on booze and cooze. Night in and night out. Not counting their cab fares all around the city. Their Hotel room. Their flights. Their food. Etc.

The one thing that I notice on all of the boards that I frequent is the overall "Backpacker" mentality of making it a contest almost to see who got the cheapest pussy or survived on their world trip the longest on a dollar and fifty cents. Woe unto anyone who pays twenty-five cents more than the rock bottom price possible. Because then that person has fucked it up for everyone else.

I also notice (often from people that are themselves self-employed or business owners) an rather large propensity to ***** or state just how far out of line any service being offered is. When the person providing the service attempts to make any profit at all. Isn't that the reason that anyone goes into business?

I'm not connected or supporting this person's offer in any way. I just get kind of tired of the same old [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about how stupid someone is for paying an extra buck. Or how that person is the reason they no longer have five dollar pussy available. And how they've fucked it up for everyone else by over paying. Or how every time someone tries to offer a service here. They are flamed to shit for trying to actually "Gawd-Forbid" make a buck.

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[X Man]

Actually, the first thing that came to my mind is that this "businessman" had set prices such that he could accompany his customer and give a personal tour. He only needs one customer at the price suggested and the result is a paid adult holiday to the Philippines, and maybe even a few bucks left over.

I wouldn't recommend such a service, but I have to admire the "businessman". It's not such a bad idea.

X


$650 per day, or even $350 after subtracting business class airfare, could hardly be considered 'bottom feeding' or living like a backpacker. Do you really think this joker advertising this trip at $6500 doesn't expect to make a HUGE profit? Why else would he be doing it?

This isn't a contest to see who spends the least, but it's a matter or practicality and the point of not overpaying for no reason. I think we're all in favor of that.

[Punter 127]

I extended my 21 day visa to 59 days (first extension) by taking my passport to a travel agent in Cebu (ATJ travels & tours) I dropped my passport off one day and picked it up the next afternoon, the total cost was P3202.00 they gave me the following break down of cost along with receipts.

Application fee 1000.00
Visa waiver fee 500.00
Legal research 30.00
Bi clearance 500.00
Express lane 500.00

Sub total 2530.00

ATJ fee 600.00
Vat 72.00

Total P3202. 00


IMHO P672.00 to have the agency handle this is money well spent.

[Darth Sushi]

I extended my 21 day visa to 59 days (first extension) by taking my passport to a travel agent in Cebu (ATJ travels & tours) I dropped my passport off one day and picked it up the next afternoon, the total cost was P3202.00 they gave me the following break down of cost along with receipts.

Application fee 1000.00
Visa waiver fee 500.00
Legal research 30.00
Bi clearance 500.00
Express lane 500.00

Sub total 2530.00

ATJ fee 600.00
Vat 72.00

Total P3202. 00


IMHO P672.00 to have the agency handle this is money well spent.
You can take a trike to 7th st and do it yourself in twenty minutes. But you must wear pants and a sleeved shirt to get in a gov building. P672 is not much but I prefer not give my passport if I don't have to....

[Ace of Spades]

Gentlemen,

I am wondering if by marrying a filipina, I can get a visa that will allow me to stay in the Philippines without having to renew my visa so often.

I am also wondering the extenstion 21 days to 59 days, if there is a stamp in my passport or an actual visa? My passport is full, I have no pages left, but I have some space for stamps.

[Fast Eddie 48]

Gentlemen,

I am wondering if by marrying a filipina, I can get a visa that will allow me to stay in the Philippines without having to renew my visa so often.

I am also wondering the extenstion 21 days to 59 days, if there is a stamp in my passport or an actual visa? My passport is full, I have no pages left, but I have some space for stamps.ACE,

If you hold an US passport go to the US consulate in Manila they can add page to the passport at no charge.

Fast eddie 48

[Punter 127]

Gentlemen,


I am also wondering the extenstion 21 days to 59 days, if there is a stamp in my passport or an actual visa? My passport is full, I have no pages left, but I have some space for stamps.It's just a stamp in my passport.

[Punter 127]

You can take a trike to 7th st and do it yourself in twenty minutes. But you must wear pants and a sleeved shirt to get in a gov building. P672 is not much but I prefer not give my passport if I don't have to....Each to his own but I don’t like trikes and I haven’t had a pair of long pants on since I arrived here. The travel agent is one block from my hotel and it took three minutes.

[Bob Bowie]

When I arrived in Manila last month, I told the immigration guy that I wanted to add the extended visa to the 21 given on entrance. He told me to go to the immigration office on the other side of the luggage carousel.

The lady office worker told me to go to the curency exchange and give them $50 USD and bring the new pesos and the receipt from the exchange back to her office with an additional 550 or 525 pesos, not sure of the amount.

After about 30 minutes I had my visa. Really easy.

[Amavida]

it all depends on how i feel on a particular trip. i have times when i enjoy bottom feeding and there are times when i like living at the top. i do this also and i suspect many repeat visitors do also.


the one thing that i notice on all of the boards that i frequent is the overall "backpacker" mentality of making it a contest almost to see who got the cheapest pussy or survived on their world trip the longest on a dollar and fifty cents. woe unto anyone who pays twenty-five cents more than the rock bottom price possible. because then that person has fucked it up for everyone else.its a valid point dw, however bear in mind not all mongers can actually _afford_ their activities hehehe :d
there is an element of monger that spends 'the rent money' on prostitution in every country. some of the guys arriving here in the phils have the arse out of their pants to begin with & then proceed to scrape along paying as little as they can get away with before returning home to the bills waiting for them 'back home'. i try not not to be judgmental about this but one does wonder about the level of sexual addiction these guys are suffering from...


i also notice (often from people that are themselves self-employed or business owners) an rather large propensity to ***** or state just how far out of line any service being offered is. when the person providing the service attempts to make any profit at all. isn't that the reason that anyone goes into business?

i'm not connected or supporting this person's offer in any way. i just get kind of tired of the same old [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and moan about how stupid someone is for paying an extra buck. or how that person is the reason they no longer have five dollar pussy available. and how they've fucked it up for everyone else by over paying. or how every time someone tries to offer a service here. they are flamed to shit for trying to actually "gawd-forbid" make a buck.valid point but i gotta tell ya, you dont get to a position of financial success by throwing money away ;)
also bear in mind that it costs most mongers a lot of money to get here - the only reason they come is that the pussy is much cheaper than 'back home'. driving up the prices takes away the value proposition of the deal for most people.
following on from this point i'll add that frequent visitors or expats living here tend to think in pesos or to put it another way they think in terms of prices relative to local wages/living costs. when i see guys spending profligate sums of money on pussy here i'm disturbed because it's distorting the market badly.
i've known really nice providers who got on the game in burgos and thay changed from warm gfe girls to cold hard money driven hookers just like in the developed world. is this what you want? if guys want to spend $5,000 - $10,000 a night on a woman let them go to vegas or somewhere like that i say. just my 2 centavos :)
av

[Amavida]

Gentlemen, I am wondering if by marrying a filipina, I can get a visa that will allow me to stay in the Philippines without having to renew my visa so often.

I am also wondering the extenstion 21 days to 59 days, if there is a stamp in my passport or an actual visa? My passport is full, I have no pages left, but I have some space for stamps. Hi Ace, Wow thats a drastic way to lengthen you stay! :D
You need to do a little reading but to sumarise, if you marry a Filippina citizen you are afforded 'The Balikbayan Privilege' by Philippines immigration. You may enter & stay without a visa for up to a year at a time.
As other have said, a less drastic solution is to get another page in your passport at your embassy & then go to the Phils Immigration ( or thru a travel agent) & get your tourist visa extended.
The comment about long pants in government offices is fact. Its a cultural faux par for an adult male to go around in public in shorts & sandals. You wanna look like a bottom of the social strata trike driver, expect to be treated like one... ;)
AV

[Punter 127]

The comment about long pants in government offices is fact. Its a cultural faux par for an adult male to go around in public in shorts & sandals. You wanna look like a bottom of the social strata trike driver, expect to be treated like one... ;)
AV Since I arrived in the Philippines I have been treated very respectfully by everyone. (Except possibly for a couple of expats) and I have not had on anything but shorts and sandals. I’ve never cared much about social status and I avoid government offices and government officials in all countries like the plague, so I guess trike driver status is ok with me… ;)

[GoodEnough]

I do not want to add fuel to the fire, but I frequently see expats walking around Davao who dress like they've just finished rummaging blindfolded through a bin of Salvation Army castoffs. These guys could not walk into a decent hotel or restaurant in the States or Europe and when they do patronize more upscale establishments here, most people--expats and filipinos alike--look at them with some distaste. I would think that self-respect alone would be sufficient reason not to dress like a panhandler.

How you dress probably makes no difference in the P4P scene, but trying to interest "normal," middle class women, at least in Davao, would be difficult if dressed in unpressed shorts, a ratty tee shirt and rubber flipflops if only because the ladies would assume that you're from a lower social stratum than they are.

GE

[Fifty Fifty]

I do not want to add fuel to the fire, but I frequently see expats walking around Davao who dress like they've just finished rummaging blindfolded through a bin of Salvation Army castoffs. These guys could not walk into a decent hotel or restaurant in the States or Europe and when they do patronize more upscale establishments here, most people--expats and filipinos alike--look at them with some distaste. I would think that self-respect alone would be sufficient reason not to dress like a panhandler.

How you dress probably makes no difference in the P4P scene, but trying to interest "normal," middle class women, at least in Davao, would be difficult if dressed in unpressed shorts, a ratty tee shirt and rubber flipflops if only because the ladies would assume that you're from a lower social stratum than they are.

GE

Fully agree, GE. Lets face it some guys do care and some just do not have a damn clue.
There is no need for flash designer clothes but a reasonable standard of dress will always attract a reasonable standard of partner too.

I am sure the ''Rag Ass'' brigade you are referring to would be delighted if their girls turned up wearing the same style crap gear, assuming they have removed their blindfolds or can see that far anyway.

Ex-Pats all over seem to think that cos they are financially better off they can doss around in rags with no worries, but it matters to the girls, a lot.

You can often tell a persons status from their shoes, well off ''Rag Asses'' often wear good shoes, even designer Flip Flops :)

Cheers, F/Fifty

[Punter 127]

I do not want to add fuel to the fire, but I frequently see expats walking around Davao who dress like they've just finished rummaging blindfolded through a bin of Salvation Army castoffs. These guys could not walk into a decent hotel or restaurant in the States or Europe and when they do patronize more upscale establishments here, most people--expats and filipinos alike--look at them with some distaste. I would think that self-respect alone would be sufficient reason not to dress like a panhandler. I think we’ve all seen that and I don’t disagree with you, but that's not what we are talking about here.


How you dress probably makes no difference in the P4P scene, but trying to interest "normal," middle class women, at least in Davao, would be difficult if dressed in unpressed shorts, a ratty tee shirt and rubber flipflops if only because the ladies would assume that you're from a lower social stratum than they are.

GEI have been with more non-p4p than p4p here in the RP, again we were just speaking of wearing shorts, not “unpressed shorts, a ratty tee shirt and rubber flipflops” that’s a big leap imho! We were talking about not wanting to put on long pants to go to a government office.

[Puerto La Cruz]

As I am sitting here getting ready to iron a shirt and pants that I will wear with coat and tie and Florsheim Imperials to work today, I will be one of the better dressed men that a woman will encounter during the day. However, I look forward to my next trip where I may not even wear long pants or shoes for two weeks or so. A tastful "Caribbean" shirt, clean unwrinkled shorts, Mall of Asia flip flops and a baseball hat are my usual and customary attire anywhere in the Philippines. Clean shaven with after shave are mandatory for me as are my 100 peso "designer" shades.

I can state with certainty that on the last two trips, I did not wear long pants although I always bring a couple of pairs with me "just in case" along with a couple of Ralph Lauren polo shirts, a pair of topsiders and a couple pairs of socks. Come to my office and you will see that I have papers on the wall that prove I am somebody. I feel no need to prove that when I am on vacation. Seems it would only make me a bigger target.

[GoodEnough]

Ah, but see Puerto, if you were here in the Philippines, you could be watching your house helper iron it for you. Just kidding of course, and maybe I'm overly concerned with appearances, especially since I think I've actually worn a suit and tie maybe twice in the past two years.

I have no objection to shorts, though I never wear them, and I fully understand guys who have to "dress up" every day wanting to "dress down" while on holiday. I guess I was just over-reacting to the true ragamuffins I see walking around Davao, beer bellies bulging over what used to be the waist in their shorts, who honestly believe that on arrival in the Philippines, they've become irresistible to the female species.

GE

[Towelboy2010]

There is a thread in the photo gallery about data recovery. This has been an ongoing issue for me because I do some video production and I have (5) 300+ gb hard drives in my computer. I lost (1) about 2 years ago and my tech charged me $400 to recover the data.

Two months ago I subscribed to an online backup service called Carbonite.

http://www.carbonite.com/

This past weekend I lost my G: drive and 250 gb of info. I installed a new drive today and used the recover mode of carbonite. At this point it is still downloading, but I am able to access a huge number of "lost" files on the new hard drive.

My early estimation is this is “an out of the park homerun” for the $50 invested.

Yes, that's $50 a year for unlimited data storage.

It operates quietly in the background and when i had to restore the files it was as simple & user friendly as it could be.

Highly recommend.

[Towelboy2010]

The files are updating as expected. However, the process is slow. I have 200 gb of lost data to restore and the support staff estimated that it may take a week. Still the best and cheapest option I am aware of.


There is a thread in the photo gallery about data recovery. This has been an ongoing issue for me because I do some video production and I have (5) 300+ gb hard drives in my computer. I lost (1) about 2 years ago and my tech charged me $400 to recover the data.

Two months ago I subscribed to an online backup service called Carbonite.

http://www.carbonite.com/

This past weekend I lost my G: drive and 250 gb of info. I installed a new drive today and used the recover mode of carbonite. At this point it is still downloading, but I am able to access a huge number of "lost" files on the new hard drive.

My early estimation is this is “an out of the park homerun” for the $50 invested.

Yes, that's $50 a year for unlimited data storage.

It operates quietly in the background and when i had to restore the files it was as simple & user friendly as it could be.

Highly recommend.

[Amavida]

We were talking about not wanting to put on long pants to go to a government office.Whether you like it or not there are certain dress regulations for government offices in this country.. ignore them at your cost.
Dressing like a slob is ok in the middle of a holiday resort on occasion but around town one creates a bad impression to do so. End
AV

[Punter 127]

Whether you like it or not there are certain dress regulations for government offices in this country.. ignore them at your cost.
Dressing like a slob is ok in the middle of a holiday resort on occasion but around town one creates a bad impression to do so. End
AVGive me a break, I fully understand about wearing shorts in governmemt offices. Again that was one of the reasons I used a travel agent.
However I don't think wearing nice shorts "around town" constitutes "Dressing like a slob" and I really don't care what impression you draw from it, but again each to his own.

[HornyGeorge]

Wearing shorts is ABSOLUTELY CONSIDERED LOW CLASS in Manila in particular, and upper class people will look down at you for doing it. Yes low class locals do it too, but you do not want a pretty young thing to view you as the Kano equivalent of a pedicab driver.

They won't say anything, because its not the Filipino way, but they will think it. I do it at times too, and am not criticizing others who wear shorts as with the climate it makes perfect sense. But it IS a faux pas if you want people to respect you. This is particularly true when you are interacting with nonpros, including girls met on the internet. You'll get better service from business too, not just government offices where it is prohibited.

This is NOT unique top the Philippines at all. In fact in wealthy countries dressing down is more tolerated than in developing countries.

[Pute Nut]

IMO Filipinos will usually not "respect" you anyway, extended trouser length or not.

On most occasions one may as well opt for the well ventilated alternative, rather than running around town like a sweaty pig.

[Puerto La Cruz]

IMO Filipinos will usually not "respect" you anyway, extended trouser length or not.

On most occasions one may as well opt for the well ventilated alternative, rather than running around town like a sweaty pig.

Hahahahahaha. I would like to see those "better than me" bastards here during the middle of a Wisconsin winter. They'd have so many clothes on they'd all look like Michelin men. I dress for comfort wherever I am. If somebody doesn't like it, they can lump it. When protocal dictates otherwise, then discretion is the better part of valor but I don't care of what they think of me when I am in metro Manila streets filled with ordinary people, muggers, drunks, thives, hookers, trannies, shabu smokers and otherwise other run of the mill people. If filipinois will not usually "respect" me, it really does not matter as 98% of them will respect my dollars.


I have a closet full of fine suits, shirts, ties and shoes, many of which have not been taken out of the boxes. I went to the office yesterday dressed in shorts, flip flops, a "Caribbean" shirt and a baseball hat, with the top down on my Benz. Maybe those people can teach me something that I don't know. Unless my business or politics dictates otherwise, I will continue taking pleasure in dressing any frigg'n way I want.

[Ekspat]

Wearing shorts is ABSOLUTELY CONSIDERED LOW CLASS in Manila in particular,
Same with those flip-flops. Totally ridiculous, good shoes is a must.
But Westerners in flip-flops may consider it "cool".
Same as wearing sunglasses at night.

This is particularly true when you are interacting with nonpros
There won't be any interaction with nonpros if you're dressed like this.

Cheers!

[Puerto La Cruz]

Then the nurse with her masters degree that teaches at PCMC and the model that I was with last trip must have some affectation for low life losers. On the other hand, maybe I am good looking, well educated, conversant, courteous and have nice legs!!! Hopefully my busineness in metro Manila will be up and running by January. Will I need to wear long pants to read my e-mails or talk on the phone

[Brown Rail]

Hey mates,

Question for you guys.

I will be in Manila for 2 days end of June, and I'm looking for things to get into during the day.

Anyone know of any good massage parlors or some good spots for some daytime fun in Manila?

Any info is appreciated!La Cafe. All day, all night. 1429 M. H. Del Pilar St. Cor. Romero Salas St. Ermita.

Approach any girl, they are all working. Once you found the girl you like, offer P1, 000 short time. If you stick to your price you will get it. Then take her accross and down the street to Amazonia. On the second floor is a short time hotel. I think it is about P600. Not so nice but it will do.

[Carmex]

Not a single one of you guys have ever lived in Hawaii? Only downtown business men wear long pants and shoes. Other than military, and certain professions, shorts, t-shirt, and slippers (flip flops on the mainland) are the standard of dress. I probably have maybe 10 different pairs of slippers. Ones for town, ones for going out, washing the car, etc. Ratty T shirts are not very good, but casual shorts are just that, casual. I honestly don't think mainland standards apply in another country. Maybe parts of Manila, but certainly not AC.

[Blackangst]

Not a single one of you guys have ever lived in Hawaii? Only downtown business men wear long pants and shoes. Other than military, and certain professions, shorts, t-shirt, and slippers (flip flops on the mainland) are the standard of dress. I probably have maybe 10 different pairs of slippers. Ones for town, ones for going out, washing the car, etc. Ratty T shirts are not very good, but casual shorts are just that, casual. I honestly don't think mainland standards apply in another country. Maybe parts of Manila, but certainly not AC.


you're right certainly not ac especially the bars.
but manila and anyplace else you may get a non pro, but quality is 100% dependant on dress. You can't compare hawaii and the Philippines either. Sure they're both islands but that's where the similarity ends. Some probably have had luck getting a hot non pro in casual shorts and flip flops, but that is anecdotal at best. Its the exception not the rule.

[FireWalker]

My girl and I want to get Open Water Certification. We will be going in late August and September. I would appreciate a referal to someone good. Also, since it is off season, also hoping for reasonable costs. Open to location.

[GoodEnough]

My girl and I want to get Open Water Certification. We will be going in late August and September. I would appreciate a referal to someone good. Also, since it is off season, also hoping for reasonable costs. Open to location.
Here in Davao there are lots of places that will give you PADI training for open water, but in my opinion the best is Euro Diving. Henny Smits is by the far the best diving instructor in Davao. If you want his contact information send me PM and I would be happy to send it to you.
GE

[BuleDaddy]

i see well dressed , fit, good looking guys much younger than me getting played like a record by pinay ho's. look at ac. it resembles what i would think a small us town would look like after a limited nuclear exchange, only the chinese merchant class builds a few malls (a miniature jakarta w/the aussies opening the p4p bars). getting the booty is all about how you approach the booty, and portray yourself not how you dress. women judge people by self confidance, not how they dress. the educated, monied, untouchables will usually hook up just to get transit, or if older maybe a marraige to secure some property and a foothold in the us. anybody entertaining the folly that these girls want some old geezer over a pilapeeno pretty boy will be hating life after they sign the afadavits of support to bring their little pudwacker back to their hometown. if she is real pretty and some happening pinay lawyer doesn't make her his mistriss while you pay the mortage and child support, some catholic viet or korean stud might move right on in and you won't be able to afford your bootyfests any more after the child support, alimony, and her mortgage payments. the us pinoy papers all have these cheezy abogados (lawyers) ready to coach them on how the get the biggest bucks from the knucklehead that brought her back. better to look like a goofy tourist with flip-flops, shorts and holy tee shirt, unlike brazil where you want to look like them. they'd be less inclined to kidnap or rob you when you look like a mechanic on a bootytour rather than a executive from the imf or world bank.

[MeLuvULongTime]

If she is real pretty and some happening Pinay lawyer doesn't make her his mistriss while you pay the mortage and child support.... The US Pinoy papers all have these cheezy Abogados (lawyers) ready to coach them on how the get the biggest bucks from the knucklehead that brought her back. Hmmmm. I consider myself to be a "happening" pinoy meztiso cheezy lawyer here on the west coast, and I must say I will have to advertise in the local pinoy paper and see if I can get some business. Only one problem though, Professional code of ethics (I know, insert joke here) prohibits sex with clients. Nothing in the code about sex with ex-clients though hehehe. Just joking gentlemen, since I consider it bad form to screw some suckers wife.

Meluvulongtime

[X Man]

I'm not a diver, but I met GE's recommendation Henny and he's a great guy.

If Davao isn't on your itinterary you might post in the the area where you want to go. I've heard good things about Bohol Divers on Ahlona beach, Panglao Island, Bohol.

X


My girl and I want to get Open Water Certification. We will be going in late August and September. I would appreciate a referal to someone good. Also, since it is off season, also hoping for reasonable costs. Open to location.

[HornyGeorge]

Artisitic Diving in Sipalay, Negros, is best dive school I've found. Run by a Swiss guy, he has European instructors to fill in when he cannot personally teach the course. My experience is that Europeans are more serious about training and safety than Filipino instructors or divemasters. I say this in for people interested in diving in Thailand and Latin America too, the Europeans are the best dive instructors.

How one dresses at the office or at home etc. Is not the point. AC is a special case, and worst place in entire PI for finding GOOD girls so dress as slovenly as you want. And believe me I prefer dressing casual, and rarely dress up. But wearing long pants and a collared shirt in cities does make a difference in how you are viewed.

Of course you can still find girls so these anecdotes about "I found a hottie while dressed for the beach" miss the point also. I've scored non pros wearing shorts too, and I usually wear shorts in Manila also (because I am not on the make any more.well not often anyway). Buledaddy: your generalization is just that, a generalization. SOME Filipinas prefer the young local gwapos, even if they have a foreign BF, but there are a fair number of Filipinas who are smart enough to have no interest in Asian men. Some girls like White, and some Black. Just as we mongers are not homogenous in our preferences, neither are Filipinas.

[X Man]

I was agreeing with everything HG said all the way up until, "there are a fair number of Filipinas who are smart enough to have no interest in Asian men".

I think some elaboration is called for. What is the problem with Asian men? They seem to have a lot of offspring, so they're doing something right!

And why would any women be "smart" to entertain any of the Horn DOgs here at ISG? I'm pretty sure some of my lovely (non-AC) Filipina friends wouldn't touch me with a ten foot pole (no pun intended) if they could read a smattering of what I write here.

X

DISCLAIMER: I tend to question things I don't understand or disagree with -- and especially things I think are dead-ass wrong. This is your cue Fifty (or your peapod clone) to chime in with your usual vacuous remarks.



Artisitic Diving in Sipalay, Negros, is best dive school I've found. Run by a Swiss guy, he has European instructors to fill in when he cannot personally teach the course. My experience is that Europeans are more serious about training and safety than Filipino instructors or divemasters. I say this in for people interested in diving in Thailand and Latin America too, the Europeans are the best dive instructors.

How one dresses at the office or at home etc. Is not the point. AC is a special case, and worst place in entire PI for finding GOOD girls so dress as slovenly as you want. And believe me I prefer dressing casual, and rarely dress up. But wearing long pants and a collared shirt in cities does make a difference in how you are viewed.

Of course you can still find girls so these anecdotes about "I found a hottie while dressed for the beach" miss the point also. I've scored non pros wearing shorts too, and I usually wear shorts in Manila also (because I am not on the make any more.well not often anyway). Buledaddy: your generalization is just that, a generalization. SOME Filipinas prefer the young local gwapos, even if they have a foreign BF, but there are a fair number of Filipinas who are smart enough to have no interest in Asian men. Some girls like White, and some Black. Just as we mongers are not homogenous in our preferences, neither are Filipinas.

[Carmex]

Hey everyone,

Just thought I would weigh in on the latest topic. Just returned tonite from 10 days in PH. Stayed in Manila for 3 days at the Hyatt. Was concerned about the bill, except when I went to the craps table on the last night and made a quick 30, 000php. Paid for the room and room service, also the 6 girls I had over those days. Great time!

Hooked up with three girls from FH. One brought a girlfriend. Somehow I screwed it up and I think she was going to stay with me, but with the "I'm so shy" routine, I just sent them both home to Cavite in a taxi. Feel bad because she was really beautiful. Bartender asked me the next day about where was the pretty girl I was with, (she is friends with the girls mom). I told her it didn't work out and she told me she would go with me to the hotel. Bartender was older, but really hot and former miss pinoy idol. Anyway, was going to meet her at the hotel but she was a no show also, so, at 4 am went to LA Cafe and brought home two girls. Much easier that way. So, is 2000php a good tip? Some seemed happy while others said, "more please". AC is still AC. Fell in lust with one girl. Hooked up with Mama from Carousel and partied all night. Went home at 5am with two girls. Right now my dick hurts. Too many pussies in too short a time. Manila chicks are all about business, so to some AC girls, but still others down to business. Has anyone ever told a girl to 'please stop fucking me'?

Need to learn some pinay edicate so I can close the deal with the FH non pros. Heading to BKK next to make my own comparison about fili vs. Thai. Hehehehehe

Peace fellow mongers.

[Aslan]

I've been going to Thailand for years and am thinking about something new. I'm wondering how Thailand and the Philippines compare these days. I'll be making a trip in the next few months to one of the places and am trying to decide if the Philippines is worth a try.

Anyone?

[Fifty Fifty]

DISCLAIMER: I tend to question things I don't understand or disagree with -- and especially things I think are dead-ass wrong. This is your cue Fifty (or your peapod clone) to chime in with your usual vacuous remarks.

Is this a real Disclaimer, or is it once again more personal abuse from the X Man?

Cut the crap X and stick to the forum rules including ''no abuse to other members'' if you can. After all what use are any of your relentless questions and mindless remarks to any of us here?

Thanks in advance, no reply required.

F/Fifty

[Brown Rail]

Hey everyone,

Just thought I would weigh in on the latest topic. Just returned tonite from 10 days in PH. Stayed in Manila for 3 days at the Hyatt. Was concerned about the bill, except when I went to the craps table on the last night and made a quick 30, 000php. Paid for the room and room service, also the 6 girls I had over those days. Great time!

Hooked up with three girls from FH. One brought a girlfriend. Somehow I screwed it up and I think she was going to stay with me, but with the "I'm so shy" routine, I just sent them both home to Cavite in a taxi. Feel bad because she was really beautiful. Bartender asked me the next day about where was the pretty girl I was with, (she is friends with the girls mom). I told her it didn't work out and she told me she would go with me to the hotel. Bartender was older, but really hot and former miss pinoy idol. Anyway, was going to meet her at the hotel but she was a no show also, so, at 4 am went to LA Cafe and brought home two girls. Much easier that way. So, is 2000php a good tip? Some seemed happy while others said, "more please". AC is still AC. Fell in lust with one girl. Hooked up with Mama from Carousel and partied all night. Went home at 5am with two girls. Right now my dick hurts. Too many pussies in too short a time. Manila chicks are all about business, so to some AC girls, but still others down to business. Has anyone ever told a girl to 'please stop fucking me'?

Need to learn some pinay edicate so I can close the deal with the FH non pros. Heading to BKK next to make my own comparison about fili vs. Thai. Hehehehehe

Peace fellow mongers.I think PHP2,000 is about right for over night from LA Cafe. For short time should be about PHP1,000.

I find it is best to agree with them before leaving LA. That way you can do the walk away if they are being unreasonable, and they will most often meet your price. I usually say PHP1,500 for overnight, then if I am happy give PHp2,000, maybe another 100 for taxi money.

[X Man]

This guy is a real piece of work. Self-appointed moderator who has been rude to me several times. When he gets a little of his own medicine he starts crying about the rules of ISG.

My posts on ISG are not for your entertainment, 50. The only people who complain are you and your clone, AV. SOrry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. And stop threatening to get people banned for ISG.

X


Is this a real Disclaimer, or is it once again more personal abuse from the X Man?

Cut the crap X and stick to the forum rules including ''no abuse to other members'' if you can. After all what use are any of your relentless questions and mindless remarks to any of us here?

Thanks in advance, no reply required.

F/Fifty

[Puerto La Cruz]

This guy is a real piece of work. Self-appointed moderator who has been rude to me several times. When he gets a little of his own medicine he starts crying about the rules of ISG.

My posts on ISG are not for your entertainment, 50. The only people who complain are you and your clone, AV. SOrry, but the world doesn't revolve around you. And stop threatening to get people banned for ISG.

X


Would somebody please put an end to this shit?

I don't care how many women you have slept with.

I don't care about the quality or lack thereof of the women you have slept with, nor the prices of the girls or of the trikes.

I don't care about appropriate attire nor do I care about whether X or 50 like me or not. BUT somebody has to take some control over this. Stop it.

X I know you from another board when you accused somebody of hijacking your name. You told him your would " fuck up is computer" if he didn't stop using "your" name.

Just stop this shit.

The purpose of this board is not for anybody's pissing matches.

X are you drunk and angry?

Stop it!!!!!

[Chevy 68]

Here is a scam for you, your looking for a virgin so she'll be more faithful sorta plus she's a virgin, parents push her to marry you, she pops out a puppy, you think this will even more make her faithful and you support mother and baby, she signs paper at embassy saying she she tried drugs in the past cuz they wanted me to be honest and they said it would show in my blood. You get senator to push your visa through, then family says she flew the coup. She's not good for you. All the time bilking you out of money and building a house for her and Filipino boyfriend.

[X Man]

You do NOT know me from another board because I never said such a thing and I do not have any desire or skill to cause another person's computer to malfunction. You apparently have me mixed up with someone else.

Feel free to pm me if you care to elaborate.

X



X I know you from another board when you accused somebody of hijacking your name. You told him your would " fuck up is computer" if he didn't stop using "your" name.

[HornyGeorge]

X: Generally speaking (a generalization of course), Asian men tend not to treat women as well as North American/European/Ozzie/Kiwi men do. That is NOT a judgment, it is an observation/opinion. That was the predicate of the "smart enough" comment.

OF COURSE ISGers as a whole are even less likely to be monogamous than Asian men LOL.

[Fordtech]

I was just on yahoo U.S. Dollar to Philippine Peso Exchange Rate. July 10, 45.775 Nice to see it on a steady rise.

[Naked Gunz]

Would somebody please put an end to this shit?
I don't care how many women you have slept with.
I don't care about the quality or lack thereof of the women you have slept with, nor the prices of the girls or of the trikes.
I don't care about appropriate attire nor do I care about whether X or 50 like me or not. BUT somebody has to take some control over this. Stop it.
X I know you from another board when you accused somebody of hijacking your name. You told him your would " fuck up is computer" if he didn't stop using "your" name.
Just stop this shit.
The purpose of this board is not for anybody's pissing matches.
X are you drunk and angry?
Stop it!!!!!

No pls continue , this is fun to watch, ...ehh, I mean read!

[Ekspat]

I was just on yahoo U.S. Dollar to Philippine Peso Exchange Rate. July 10, 45.77
And the Euro gets you 71.5. Just changed some in AC.
Lucky me.....

Cheers!

[X Man]

I can agree with that on several different levels. Please forgive me for going off on a rant.

I know it may seem curious to be politically correct on a forum like this, but that's the way I am. I don't find anything immoral about p4p, but I really feel uncomfortable with predjudice / racism / discrimination. etc, blah, blah.

"Asia" is a huge area, and has a huge population. I don't think you can compare East Asians with SE Asians, but all have that Chinese / Confucian influence.

Many Japanese / Korean men work long hours and have long commutes and don't even see their children except when they sleep. East Asian men lay on the sacrificial bed of labor and let the system fk them -- they are the modern day samurai. Some allow their women to control their finances and the women give them an allowance. Loyalty...another samurai trait.

I will agree with H George that (generally) Western men treat women better than A. men. But, there are cultural and society differences that affect these things.

I'm blabbering ...so I'll stop here. Sorry...fingers seem faster than brain.

X



X: Generally speaking (a generalization of course), Asian men tend not to treat women as well as North American/European/Ozzie/Kiwi men do. That is NOT a judgment, it is an observation/opinion. That was the predicate of the "smart enough" comment.

OF COURSE ISGers as a whole are even less likely to be monogamous than Asian men LOL.

[Amavida]

I can agree with that on several different levels. Please forgive me for going off on a rant.

I know it may seem curious to be politically correct on a forum like this, but that's the way I am. I don't find anything immoral about p4p, but I really feel uncomfortable with predjudice / racism / discrimination. etc, blah, blah.

"Asia" is a huge area, and has a huge population. I don't think you can compare East Asians with SE Asians, but all have that Chinese / Confucian influence.

Many Japanese / Korean men work long hours and have long commutes and don't even see their children except when they sleep. East Asian men lay on the sacrificial bed of labor and let the system fk them -- they are the modern day samurai. Some allow their women to control their finances and the women give them an allowance. Loyalty...another samurai trait.

I will agree with H George that (generally) Western men treat women better than A. men. But, there are cultural and society differences that affect these things.

I'm blabbering ...so I'll stop here. Sorry...fingers seem faster than brain.

XThanks for this interesting & thoughtful post X, I enjoyed reading it. I agree with your observations pretty much.
AV

[Fordtech]

Arriving July 25th at 22:30 at NAIA , Northwest flight #71 from Detroit via Nagoya. I have booked a car to Angeles from Beeline Travel. Any one want to share ? Anyone on same flight? Northwest flight #1 also arrives 15 minutes earlier at 22:15 from Tokyo.

I am leaving Ac on August 5th. I am on Northwest flight #2 that leaves NAIA at 7:45am. I am planning on leaving AC around 3:45am.

I am always so early at the airport but im always afraid of missing my flight :)

[Madraz]

I am going diving in Puerto Galera next weekend and will be staying in sabang. Does anyone know if taking a girl from the gogo's back to your hotel is an issue considering it is such a small place. Do they have a joiner fee ?

Thanks

[HenryV]

Depends on the hotel, most don't care - a few (very few) do. I e mailed a place that caters to divers, can't remember the name just now, but they told me outright they cater to divers not mongers. Best is to e mail the hotel and find out.


I am going diving in Puerto Galera next weekend and will be staying in sabang. Does anyone know if taking a girl from the gogo's back to your hotel is an issue considering it is such a small place. Do they have a joiner fee ?

Thanks

[Manta Ray]

Depends on the hotel, most don't care - a few (very few) do. I e mailed a place that caters to divers, can't remember the name just now, but they told me outright they cater to divers not mongers. Best is to e mail the hotel and find out.I would say, from my many years of experience diving (and mongering) in PG, the vast majority of Sabang resorts are very GF. Perhaps only a few of the upscale resorts would have any resistance to you taking a gal back to your room. And if they are a 'divers only' kind of place that hassles you when you take a gal back at midnight, just tell 'em you are doing a night dive ;-)

[Brown Rail]

I am going diving in Puerto Galera next weekend and will be staying in sabang. Does anyone know if taking a girl from the gogo's back to your hotel is an issue considering it is such a small place. Do they have a joiner fee ?

ThanksI have been a number of times. My experience there is that everything is so laid back, and so small, that no one cares if you bring a girl back. In fact, it is pretty much expected.

There are really on a few things to do in Puerto Galera: dive, eat, massage, go to discos and pick up girls. The food is cheap and plentiful. The massage places I visited were just for legit massage, but quite good and leaving you too horny. But the emphasis was on diving and girls.

Be warned that the ferry services to Puerto are very susceptible to weather. If it rains you might get stuck for extra days. Build flexibility into your schedule.

How were you planning to get there?

[Brown Rail]

I am always looking for something new. On a recent trip I checked out Paranaques, I think it was Airport Road. There are tons of girlie bars. These cater to the locals, is definitly slumming even comparied to Ermita, but I had no problem and it was a fun diversion. I have not seen this mentioned on the board.

They seem to fall into three categories:

Cafe. And I use the word loosely. Mostly these are small bars, some are karaoke, with "private" rooms upstairs. Very cheap and the girls are right off the bus. Some of the private rooms are no more than a tiny closet with two chairs. Generally give these a miss.

Disco/live music – there was at least one big one with a good band. It was all locals inside but being the only foreigner I was getting lots of attention.

Strip tease shows – there are a number of these, especially closer to Roxas Blvd. Some are higher end (Miss Siagon? ) with beautiful women and private rooms, thought he prices still were not very high. Some are lower. The first one I walked in and there were 10 naked women strutting up and down the stage. Nice. After this show a beautiful girl came out and did her routine. Once she was nude she jumped off the stage and into my lap. My first reaction was how much is this going to cost, but it was cheap. I assume that the girls go out, but did not check. Am loyal to LA Café LOL

Anyone else try it?

Note of caution: you need to be careful mixing it up with the local guys in these places. Be polite and show respect. If threatened, back off.

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[Madraz]

Depends on the hotel, most don't care - a few (very few) do. I e mailed a place that caters to divers, can't remember the name just now, but they told me outright they cater to divers not mongers. Best is to e mail the hotel and find out.Billpsu - Care to let me know what hotel that is, I was thinking of staying at Deep Blue Sea Inn who are related to Action Divers?

Thanks

[Madraz]

I have been a number of times. My experience there is that everything is so laid back, and so small, that no one cares if you bring a girl back. In fact, it is pretty much expected.

There are really on a few things to do in Puerto Galera: dive, eat, massage, go to discos and pick up girls. The food is cheap and plentiful. The massage places I visited were just for legit massage, but quite good and leaving you too horny. But the emphasis was on diving and girls.

Be warned that the ferry services to Puerto are very susceptible to weather. If it rains you might get stuck for extra days. Build flexibility into your schedule.

How were you planning to get there?I've been trying to figure this out the past few days, I am not going to pay the pickup rates from the airport that the resorts are charging, they are way too expensive. I reckon I will either take the Sikat from the city tower hotel or maybe take a taxi to the Jam bus terminal and onto Batangas. My flight gets in at 5.30am and I will only have carry on luggage so I may get into Manila before 7am and I just want to get on the road asap after my 20 hour flight.

I do have a concern about the weather when returning as I need to get back into manila to catch a flight to bangkok that leaves at 9.35pm that night. Guess I can keep an eye on the weather reports the day before I leave.

[Brown Rail]

I've been trying to figure this out the past few days, I am not going to pay the pickup rates from the airport that the resorts are charging, they are way too expensive. I reckon I will either take the Sikat from the city tower hotel or maybe take a taxi to the Jam bus terminal and onto Batangas. My flight gets in at 5.30am and I will only have carry on luggage so I may get into Manila before 7am and I just want to get on the road asap after my 20 hour flight.

I do have a concern about the weather when returning as I need to get back into manila to catch a flight to bangkok that leaves at 9.35pm that night. Guess I can keep an eye on the weather reports the day before I leave.If you have a tight schedule, and it seems you do, I would not risk Puerto Galera. Especially with all the typhoons this year. you could easily get caught there for several days.

For diving consider Anilao or for diving and girls Subic. Both involve only land travel.

[Sol111]

Not sure which thread to post this on. My American bank credit card charges me a 3% foreign transaction fee everytime I use it in asia. The bank is security-strict, forcing me to call them for many purchases I'm trying to make. I have to call them in advance just to purchase a CebuPacific airline ticket or it gets denied. Can anyone recommend a Visa card that doesn't have these restrictions? Should I apply for one in philippines at one of the banks? I'm tired of paying 15 cents on each $5 purchase for lunch.

Also the ATM thing, my bank hits me with a charge each time I use it at an ATM that is not theirs. Should I open an account at a bank there, and get one of their ATM cards?

[HenryV]

As I mentioned in my post, I really can't recall.

Again, all you have to do is email the particular place and they will provide the info.

I wound up at Captain Greggs. Place was cheap/clean. My nephew did not like the aircon, he left after one night. I thought it was adequate.

We all agreed the food was very good.



Billpsu - Care to let me know what hotel that is, I was thinking of staying at Deep Blue Sea Inn who are related to Action Divers?

Thanks

[Acqua]

Not sure which thread to post this on. My American bank credit card charges me a 3% foreign transaction fee everytime I use it in asia. The bank is security-strict, forcing me to call them for many purchases I'm trying to make. I have to call them in advance just to purchase a CebuPacific airline ticket or it gets denied. Can anyone recommend a Visa card that doesn't have these restrictions? Should I apply for one in philippines at one of the banks? I'm tired of paying 15 cents on each $5 purchase for lunch.

Also the ATM thing, my bank hits me with a charge each time I use it at an ATM that is not theirs. Should I open an account at a bank there, and get one of their ATM cards?Rgbburn,

Unless you have a lease for at least six months or an extended visa, most banks in PI will not open an account for someone who is only visiting.

In terms of the 3% thing-shop around and ask all of your credit card companies. Some cards are 1% or will lower to that rate if you have been a good customer.

The ATM fees, I dunno where you are located, but many of the smaller banks or credit unions will let you build your own account and select a number of premium features such as rebates of any ATM fees for use of ATM's other than that particular banks for free. I found one a few months ago that offered me this, gave me an IPOD for opening an account, and after 6 months gave me $150 as a "loyalty" gift. I set up an account at this bank specifically for overseas trips and just transfer money in a week or so before I leave. I never use the account for anything other than trips.

[Finrod]

Rgbburn,

Unless you have a lease for at least six months or an extended visa, most banks in PI will not open an account for someone who is only visiting.

In terms of the 3% thing-shop around and ask all of your credit card companies. Some cards are 1% or will lower to that rate if you have been a good customer.

The ATM fees, I dunno where you are located, but many of the smaller banks or credit unions will let you build your own account and select a number of premium features such as rebates of any ATM fees for use of ATM's other than that particular banks for free. I found one a few months ago that offered me this, gave me an IPOD for opening an account, and after 6 months gave me $150 as a "loyalty" gift. I set up an account at this bank specifically for overseas trips and just transfer money in a week or so before I leave. I never use the account for anything other than trips.
Regarding the credit card fees, shop around. And yes, smaller banks and credit unions are good at lower fees. Mine only charges the standard 1% Visa foreign transaction fee and the exchange rate is close to the rate seen on Bloomberg. That is the best you can do since Visa charges everyone that 1% fee. Since I have enough money deposited with my bank, they treat me with rewards so I get at least most, if not all of my ATM fees rebated.

Regarding fraud, it's a big deal, you should not mind that they want to check up on you. I have made it a point to contact my bank and give them my itinerary whenever I am about to travel overseas and I have never had a problem with them.

[Bill Buxton]

gentlemen,

i spent the best part of two years "22 months" in the great land of the pi. i am not an expert, know all, or person who knows more than most families. i did manage to take in facts, figures and many notes on the general life, and culture of the vast areas in the pi.

first i would like to say i never knew of the vast wealth, that many travelers had at there fingertips. i myself am just a working stiff, yes everyday and night here at home in the family biz. its hard to let go of 50 years in a business that is about to be passed down, anywho. i also had a somewhat close friend that had settled in the area"subic" years before as a guide so to speek. so here i go, and yes it is true, what many had said before i left, beautiful gals young and old, and a great discount on the pocket.

after meeting my bud he wanted to get me up to speed with the day and night biz at hand "girls". this seemed ok to me and he gave me the crash course. please note this was his school of biz, not to be confused with mine. most days started off for me with a light breakfast, and he strolled in after 10 am to lay down the exploits of the day. a local, he had a regular bunch he played cards, darts, and other waste of time games with each and every day.thats because he and most living here have nothing better to do. please don't get me wrong thats a great life if you are brain dead, drunk, or just tired of life in general."just my personal take on the subject"

after a short time i took what pearls he had given me and i headed out for greener pastures. i found my self in ac, manila, cebu, and other wonderful areas. like i said before i met many many people both locals and tourists. i can only say that most were ok and some hard to accept.

many here (the isg board)ask the same questions over and over about the cost, yes it is cheeper for a beer, lunch, rooms on the beach but watch out. if you want to live in somewhat comfort it costs money!

you want to have several playmates daytime, nightime, it costs money. i have seen guys take a folding chair and walk out into the bay sit down chest deep and require the waitress to deliver there dirink to them. yes like i said big money, rich, wealth, bigdeals, bigshots."listen to the rest i'm not finished"

i took notes as to the performance "bigdeal water dogs"at hand and after a while the drinks started to dry up, the high end liquor was down to beer. the owner of the hotel was quietly talking about when will i get paid. the other side of the paper has a story of the bigtimer that after 2 months had to have the motel owner purchase him a 1 way ticket home. there was another fello who was the owner of a vast empire in real estate. i had the honor of meeting, his dad, and brother,i met several weeks before. when the wealthy big brother finaly hit town he was from what i could tell not much better than most curbside panhandlers.i expected donald trump,or at the verry least a well dressed,well rounded chap.what i saw was drunken lowlife that was getting his action in ac curbside,and was rolled more than once or twice.

in short, i never met a regular guy! just many big deals, who were just that, over there, not at home. you must remember that the wonderful gals here do not think of us as regular, we are from a rich country thus we are indeed rich.

you do not have to play a game guys when you get there, just be yourself and enjoy what the area has to offer. as far as the gals go they are not stupid in any way please remember this. they are not gonna stay with a drunken abusive mabaho piece of shit any more than a gal from anyother place would. do most of the gals play games i would say yes but how many guys do ha?

the game is not so different anywhere when you look at the big picture. the guy on vacation wants variety and it is there, he wants what he wants and pays for things just like anywhere else. please note that there are many scamms run by both locals and visitors alike, "yes i trust that guy he is from the same state, province, country, town, troop, ship or whatever the fuck" most guys have not the brains left to use,after staying here anylength of time.they should go home, restock, work a while and return flush. i have seen the big fish sail off with nada on more than one occasion. then you have the guys on a limited income of old age, and whatever else they git from there many years of packing a lunch. you can have a nice life but keep in mind the cost of day to day expensives because it can add up quick.

treat the girls with 75% respect and you will get 110% back 99 times out of a hundred. remember to rent, never buy a home because you can not be the sole owner. stay away from anybody looking for an investor, partner, ect.

be yourself, enjoy the heat, sun, gals, and others and don't trust everything you here. keep your passport up to date,keep your personal things locked up at all times.

after all my guide"mentor" tried to instill in me, he did not listen to his own words.he purchased a nice home,and now
is looking for a new place to live, after 8 plus years here. this was the first time he went for the sale over the rental.could be he was way too smart for his own good. he thought he was smarter than everyone that told him, do not do it. 40-50 grand later he has no house, no cash back, and nobody to cry too but himself.if you enjoy this place take your time,look around,the place will be there when you get back.just look,listen,and never be in a rush to be a bigshot! afterall i have seen guys 60 plus calling there sisters for money,trust me it happens.




have fun, stay sharp, and never be too trusting.

b. b.

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[Xdentx]

Prior to my five week trip last Dec to Asia, I did some research. Capitol One credit card has NO foreign transaction fee. I applied for it and used it for my credit card purchashes in Hong Kong, Beijing, Bangkok, Kuala Lumpur, and Phnom Penh. Absolutely no problem and saved the foreign transaction fee that my Bank of American card would have charged. Check it out.

[Xdentx]

I'm allocating four weeks for my first trip to the Philippines and Indonesia in September/October.. Love the filipinas that I've met in HK and KL. I figure two weeks for each country. Manila and Boracay are on the itinery, but think I owe myself a couple of days in Angeles too. How does one easily get from Manila to Angeles? Any comments on the best way to divide up the two weeks in the Phils? I need some typical tourist stuff to occupy my time outside of the p4p scene. thanks...

[Devils 1]

Please give me some advice here because I know there are many far more devious types on this forum than myself.

The subject is getting one of these LBFM’s (little brown fuck machines) to the US. I have written on this subject before and thought of every conceivable plan such as FEDEX’ing her and packing one in my carry on luggage! The reason I am looking at this is because I think it may make more sense to have a girl come to see you every couple of months for 2 weeks rather than us going all the way over to the PI.

My recent idea has to do with a tourist visa. Simply put the average Filipina cannot get any type of visa. I know this because I have spoken to the embassy in the US and in Manila.

But, there seems to be certain cases where a tourist visa would be issued. Such as an older person going to the US to visit an immediate family member living there
(example, mother going to visit her daughter married to a US citizen). According to the embassy they want “some type of an assurance she will return when her visa expires.” When I questioned this further they gave examples of someone with an established professional job, a homeowner and/or someone with children. There reasoning is someone who has worked hard to establish this life will not just run off and abandon all of this to be with one of us.

Applying my logic to this, maybe one of these girls that we have a particular connection with, who also has a child could get a visa based on the fact that she will have to leave her child in the PI while she visits us to screw our brains out?

More specifically, I am suggesting that we try to bring one of these girls to us for a couple of weeks every now and then rather than going over to the PI. From an economical standpoint all you would have to spend would be her plane ticket and her “fee” for services rendered during the visit. You would be saving the cost of hotel…etc.

I would love to hear from someone who has gotten a tourist visa for a young woman in the past. Most importantly did she get the visa because of the child being left in the PI or what was the determining factor? If she is an older woman…..say 30 or above it probably doesn’t help much because lets face it we are after the 18-25 crowd!

I realize this is a long shot but when I think of some of the hot women I have nailed in the PI that also have kids I think it may be a realistic approach.

[Bopalula]

Rgbburn,

Unless you have a lease for at least six months or an extended visa, most banks in PI will not open an account for someone who is only visitingI opened a bank account at Chinabank, which is one of the bigger banks in Phils, with only a passport and my hotel's address.

If you keep at least 1, 000 pesos in the account then there is no service charge. It takes a week to get your ATM card from the head office. I opened a 'peso account'. If you want to deposit money get it exchanged at a money changer first. I find the big malls give you the best rate.

Bopalula

[Dreamplay 767]

This is a question to our friends who have been staying in PI for some time.

With the recent economic downturn in the U.S. and soring oil and other prices in most parts of the world, are you seeing any let down in terms of the number of mongerers visiting AC and Manila in recent weeks/months?

[Blink157]

hi to all,

nice report billpsu. i just want to add something :d

if you like to live in the philippines permantly, make sure you have something to do during the day. im working here and just live a normal life..which means i dont go out evry night, getting drunk, barfining gurls etc etc....cause i need to work..

being now frequently to ac and edsa and makati..i have to say im gettin a bit tired of those places, however ac is ok, cause its cheap and i have my favoured places there to hang out.

so, for the guys thinking to stay longer here, you need also a car, specially if u work and live in manila region and you like to explore more spot or shop in a supermarket, buying things , etc etc...if you live in ac, you wont need a car, bike is is fine and with the new express hi way to subic which is quite deserted you can easily drive by bike...

being here, you need to get back to "normal life", e. g. if you used to stay at home after work, not much going out, not much drink etc etc etc...you cant be a party lion once you live in the philippines. you need to get back to ur daily routine you used to have when you lived in your own country..trust me ;-)

once your head is clear, you focused on other things..of course you or lets say im here for the chicks, no doubt..but im here also for making money, working in a tropical country, easy life, and better lifestyle as i had back home. i dont live in a house or apartment. my condo is well secured, with guards outside in a 40 floor building, great view and quiet.

talking about quietness. when looking for a home, that should be your primar objective..quiet and secured environtment...with easy access to bank atm, supermarket and when no own car, access to cabs, busses etc..

dont buy real estate if you dont know whats happening around, e.g. greedy chinese pinoys can just built up a skyscraper beside your newly bought condo and you have noise for the next 3 years and your romantic view is gone :d.so, if you go for real estate, make sure whats happening around you..

retiring in the philippines, yes , why not, i like it here, but im glad i came here before i need somebody to change my [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132). with other words...if you in the retirement age, you can have a lot of fun here also. but your an easy target for scams, robbery, and hit by any other foreign loser for investment. so, heads up, dont start ur day with a dry martini, start it with a swim, stay in shape...better shape, better sex :d

when living here and now i guess i allready reach that point, its really more exciting to date semi pros then bar hookers....also in terms of hygine, std etc etc...i mean, you also dont date hookers on your own country, right? taking them out in restos, right? ok, ok....i do/did that also, but well, its ok in a place like ac, but here in manila its a bit diffrent, except your in la cafe :))..

all, im going to say, for those folks who think, wow, when i live here in the philippines i bang evry day different gurls, get drunk and party evry night..

yes, i know some guys they doing that. i know a guy he went out evry night and get a gurl..once you here, your objective changes a bit..mine are still banging good looking chicks, good lifestyle which includes food, success at work and fun on the weekends, live more healthy and have good friends :)


thats all for today ..


blink

[Puerto La Cruz]

Please give me some advice here because I know there are many far more devious types on this forum than myself.

The subject is getting one of these LBFM’s (little brown fuck machines) to the US. I have written on this subject before and thought of every conceivable plan such as FEDEX’ing her and packing one in my carry on luggage! The reason I am looking at this is because I think it may make more sense to have a girl come to see you every couple of months for 2 weeks rather than us going all the way over to the PI.

My recent idea has to do with a tourist visa. Simply put the average Filipina cannot get any type of visa. I know this because I have spoken to the embassy in the US and in Manila.

But, there seems to be certain cases where a tourist visa would be issued. Such as an older person going to the US to visit an immediate family member living there
(example, mother going to visit her daughter married to a US citizen). According to the embassy they want “some type of an assurance she will return when her visa expires.” When I questioned this further they gave examples of someone with an established professional job, a homeowner and/or someone with children. There reasoning is someone who has worked hard to establish this life will not just run off and abandon all of this to be with one of us.

Applying my logic to this, maybe one of these girls that we have a particular connection with, who also has a child could get a visa based on the fact that she will have to leave her child in the PI while she visits us to screw our brains out?

More specifically, I am suggesting that we try to bring one of these girls to us for a couple of weeks every now and then rather than going over to the PI. From an economical standpoint all you would have to spend would be her plane ticket and her “fee” for services rendered during the visit. You would be saving the cost of hotel…etc.

I would love to hear from someone who has gotten a tourist visa for a young woman in the past. Most importantly did she get the visa because of the child being left in the PI or what was the determining factor? If she is an older woman…..say 30 or above it probably doesn’t help much because lets face it we are after the 18-25 crowd!

I realize this is a long shot but when I think of some of the hot women I have nailed in the PI that also have kids I think it may be a realistic approach.

To put it succintly, not a snowball's chance in hell. At least half of these women have children anyway. These girls have no home, job, business, car or anything that might indicate that they would return to the Philippines on the departure date on their tickets. Most would gladly abandon their children and leave them with family to have an opportunity to come to the "land of milk and honey" where they can run and "hide" for the rest of their lives. USCIS knows this. That's why over 90 percent of the tourist visa applications for Filiponos are denied.

Next, there are some serious [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) issues that arise. My suggestion? Do another bong hit and come up with another idea.

Trust me, I'm a lawyer.

[Sopwith]

I am confused about this a little. So as an American I can pretty much to go any normal country I choose, whenever I choose, and my passport and filling out a little paperwork on the plane just prior to arrival does that for me.

Are you guys saying that a Philippine resident cannot come and visit the U. S. Like they are on vacation?

[Puerto La Cruz]

I am confused about this a little. So as an American I can pretty much to go any normal country I choose, whenever I choose, and my passport and filling out a little paperwork on the plane just prior to arrival does that for me.

Are you guys saying that a Philippine resident cannot come and visit the U. S. Like they are on vacation?

The USCIS operates with the presumption of immigrant intent. Accordingly, the tourist visa applicant mush show significant and substantial evidence of intent to return to their home country. If they can do so, the presumption of immigrant intent is rebutted. This presumption applies to virtually every foreign national of a developing country.

Foreign nationals of certain developed countries are not presumed to have immigrant intent. They can enter on their passport without the necessity of a visa. There are perhaps a dozen or so of such countries, mostly western European.

So no, a Philippine national cannot just enter the USA for a vacation. They have to have that visa attached to their passport first.

[Finrod]

the uscis operates with the presumption of immigrant intent. accordingly, the tourist visa applicant mush show significant and substantial evidence of intent to return to their home country. if they can do so, the presumption of immigrant intent is rebutted. this presumption applies to virtually every foreign national of a developing country.

foreign nationals of certain developed countries are not presumed to have immigrant intent. they can enter on their passport without the necessity of a visa. there are perhaps a dozen or so of such countries, mostly western european.

so no, a philippine national cannot just enter the usa for a vacation. they have to have that visa attached to their passport first.
puerto la cruz hit it on the nose. to expand on his statements:

first, the burden of proof is entirely on the tourist visa applicant to show they are returning. some people have asked, what if i put up a bond for her return? there is no provision for that in us immigration law so the answer is no, that is not possible you can help her that way.

second, i understand through the grapevine that a filipino/a applicant for a us tourist visa must have significant family ties at home, must be a business owner or have a very good professional job, must have significant assets including real estate and must have a lot of cash in the bank. this automatically chops out all but the most wealthy from these visas. also if they find any history of work in adult entertainment, that is grounds for automatic rejection.

so the only way most pinays are getting to the us is via the fiance or bride visa (k-1 or k-3, iirc).

finally, regarding foreign nationals of certain countries allowed to enter the us without visas, this is called the visa waiver program and there are currently 27 countries that participate in it, mostly in europe. the only participants in the asia pacific region are australia, brunei, japan and new zealand. korea is on the short list for possible future addition to the list. and that's it. everyone else has to apply for a visa.

[Blackangst]

This is a question to our friends who have been staying in PI for some time.

With the recent economic downturn in the U.S. and soring oil and other prices in most parts of the world, are you seeing any let down in terms of the number of mongerers visiting AC and Manila in recent weeks/months?

Maybe a little, but the PI is still one of the most beautiful places in the world (some of us come for the beaches, mountains, etc not just the girls), and the cheapest (IMHO) places to monger. Sure there are other countries with less hard dollars for fun, but when you throw in english is widely spoken, food is pretty accessible if you arent up for native cuisine, safety, and overall experience, the price can end up higher than the cost.

Also you have to remember this is low season for tourists :) Nov-Apr is high season.

[Devils 1]

So the only way most pinays are getting to the US is via the fiance or bride visa (K-1 or K-3, iirc).From what I understand of this you must marry them within 90 days of arrival?

[Paul2020]

Puerto La Cruz hit it on the nose. To expand on his statements:

Finally, regarding foreign nationals of certain countries allowed to enter the US without visas, this is called the Visa Waiver Program and there are currently 27 countries that participate in it, mostly in Europe. The only participants in the Asia Pacific region are Australia, Brunei, Japan and New Zealand. Korea is on the short list for possible future addition to the list. And that's it. Everyone else has to apply for a visa.Singapore is also on the list.

[Cunning Stunt]

Do the US have a student visa system in place.

Reason I ask is because a former girlfriend of mine has recently gone to UK (where visa rules are as strict as the USA), From what I gather the procedure was time consuming but relatively simple. Her sponsor in UK (boyfriend/pimp) enrolled her at a college on an accredited course and paid the tuition fees etc and sent her the paperwork. I think once she had the paperwork, she employed an agent to deal with the British Embassy visa section (which has been farmed out to local civilian contractors), who dealt with all the minutiae. This included showing a return flight ticket, proof of bank funds in the Philippines (which her Philippine sponsor who was her Barangay mayor paid into her account one day and reclaimed a couple of days later!). Apparently it all worked swimingly for her and she is now in the arms of her honeyko in UK and no doubt working her permitted 16 hours a week at the local massage parlour;)

These are bare details gathered from YM chat with the girl and she may have omitted details so the procedure could have been more complex than she made out but it certainly gives food for thought.

Another friend entered UK by paying a congressman a substantial sum to be taken on as one of his aids during a trip to UK and then remained there and worked illegally. The congressman apparently has a lucrative sideline in this form of illegal immigration. It goes to show that if you have the dough then there are always ways to circumvent the rules. GH

[Puerto La Cruz]

Do the US have a student visa system in place.

Reason I ask is because a former girlfriend of mine has recently gone to UK (where visa rules are as strict as the USA), From what I gather the procedure was time consuming but relatively simple. Her sponsor in UK (boyfriend/pimp) enrolled her at a college on an accredited course and paid the tuition fees etc and sent her the paperwork. I think once she had the paperwork, she employed an agent to deal with the British Embassy visa section (which has been farmed out to local civilian contractors), who dealt with all the minutiae. This included showing a return flight ticket, proof of bank funds in the Philippines (which her Philippine sponsor who was her Barangay mayor paid into her account one day and reclaimed a couple of days later!). Apparently it all worked swimingly for her and she is now in the arms of her honeyko in UK and no doubt working her permitted 16 hours a week at the local massage parlour;)

These are bare details gathered from YM chat with the girl and she may have omitted details so the procedure could have been more complex than she made out but it certainly gives food for thought.

Another friend entered UK by paying a congressman a substantial sum to be taken on as one of his aids during a trip to UK and then remained there and worked illegally. The congressman apparently has a lucrative sideline in this form of illegal immigration. It goes to show that if you have the dough then there are always ways to circumvent the rules. GH


Yes, USA does have a student visa system. One must show admission to a legitimate institution of higher learning along with sufficient funds on deposit to sustain them during their stay in the USA. A financial affidavit from a sponsor may also be required. The student can stay as long as it reasonably takes to complete their course of study and must leave as soon as that course of study is completed. Of course, there are ways of extending the stay, such as job, marriage or the like, any of which will require another application for visa, conditional or permanent residency. HIV positive applicants will be summarily denied.

[Gary Groundwork]

How does the Phillipines compare with Thailand?

Cheers

[Marconista]

How about to "import" the lady as a maid?

[Puerto La Cruz]

How about to "import" the lady as a maid?


Hahahahahahaha. With all of the illegal Mexicans here? For her to get a work visa, she generally has to show she works in a specialty profession with high technical training in a job where there is a lack of American talent available. Granted however, there is a paucity of American sexual talent. A maid might be able to come in on a temporary work visa for non-agricultural workers but the number of those visas is limted every year. In any case, the government says that you still have to pay her above minimum wage, pay her social security and keep her on the books So then she's on the books and you're screwing her? Ummmmmmmm, ever heard of sexual harassment? She's gonna own your home, cars, bank accounts and your ass. You will then be her American butler and she can show you off to all of her pinay friends. Hahahahahahahaha

[FireWalker]

From what I understand of this you must marry them within 90 days of arrival?

Yes and they will not be able to do this again if they don't marry.

[Buko Max]

Yes and they will not be able to do this again if they don't marry.
So if you send the first one back, will you be eligible to try it a second time?

[Puerto La Cruz]

So if you send the first one back, will you be eligible to try it a second time?

A male petitioner can petition in another woman after a two year wait. Female petitioner has theoretically as many opportunities to petition in a male as many times as she wants to over an unlimited period of time. Talk about sexist legislation. Male is only limited to two opportunities in a lifetime. Yeah, that's equal protection under the law.

[X Man]

On the bus to AC I looked around and everyone looked kind of ....middle aged or older. A bunch old horny old gits on the "sex for seniors" bus. Of course it then dawned on my that I was only a few years behind them. I will say that I am a lot slimmer than most of the guys on the bus....

I wonder if I'll still be riding the "S for S" bus thirty years from now. Hope so.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080813/lf_nm_life/sex_elderly_dc

X

[Titmouse]

I’M deep into plans for another visit to the Philippines and Thailand in early September. Most of my time will be spent in Angeles City, Bangkok and Manila, with side trips to Butuan, Cebu, Pattaya and, briefly, Udon Thani. As a consequence, I don’t know where to post this. I guess I’ll start in the Philippines section and continue in Thailand. Good to see that dollar exchange rates are creeping upward. I’m starting early because I intend to write an extended report, adding notes as preparations and then the trip progress. It may be interesting to compare expectations with results. I hope this will be of interest to the board. It may also provide some guidance to those with less experience.comments and question invited.

Thanks to a tip, I signed up at Date In Asia in late July. Since then, my cup hath runneth-ed over with possibilities. After a week or so, my inbox had started to get out of hand, so I changed my profile to scare away as many as possible, making it clear that I wasn’t in the market for a wife. This improved the quality and reduced the quantity of emails I was getting. I now have three I will definitely see and six more I might as time and change permit.

Here’s the basic itinerary:
(City, Stay, Hotel)
Butuan City, 3 days, Dotties
Cebu, 1 day, Cebu Midtown
Angeles City, 4 days, Pacific Breeze
Udon Thani, 1 day, Charoensri Grand
Pattaya, 3 days, View Talay 2 condo
Bangkok, 5 days, Majestic Suites
Manila, 4 days, Best Western La Corona

All of these are new hotels for me except for the Cebu Midtown. Plane tickets are mostly bought and paid for except for two Cebu Pacific flights, whose website won’t accept my credit card. I’ll have to buy these on the ground in Manila or Butuan. The big flights are all with PAL, which did a fine job for me last time, including a wonderful free upgrade to business class on the long ride home to LA. Hotels are all booked and partly paid for. I've stocked up on condoms and Cialis and bought fresh batteries for the ol' Pocket Rocket, which always wins friends. I bought a new small format camera so I don't have to lug my larger digital. I'll start assembling gear and pre-packing in another week.

The three "definites" – knowing that things can go astray – are Janice (Butuan), Nenita (Angeles) and Pen (Pattaya). Janice is a poor girl, an orphan who lives with relatives. She needs money but has been careful not to ask. In our last chat, she was concerned that I would be disappointed by her clothes. I told her I grew up wearing my older brother’s hand-me-downs. Since there is not much to do in Butuan, I’ll probably take her shopping. But I told her I was more concerned with what she didn’t wear, which got a laugh.

Nenita lives in Angeles City, but doesn’t work the bars, she says. She is the prettiest of all and is lots of fun to chat with. I met her early, but the emails stopped and I thought she wasn’t interested. It turns out she had been visiting family in Olangapo and wrote backwhen she returned. Another chat is planned for this afternoon – 4 am her time. Hmmm.

Pen is from Nongkai. She’ll meet me in Udon Thani, fly to Bangkok with me for a taxi to Pattaya. I know this is a bit like carrying coals to Newcastle, but she turned down my alternate suggestions and said she’d never been to Pattaya. We’ll stay in a condo rented from a board member. She might be a little chubby – can’t tell from a mug shot – but she volunteered right away to be my woman in Thailand and to take VERY good care of me. I could stand to be babied for a few days.

Two years ago, I mined Cherry Blossoms and met four excellent women, one of whom I started a long term relationship with, visiting her twice more. But I broke some hearts and was sorry for it. I didn't really mean to do it again, only to check out DIA and see what the noise was about. When I changed my profile there, I really hoped it would push them all away, but it worked out differently. All the girls think they're on my list of possible longterm companions and seem prepared to audition (if that's the word) for the part.

More later,

Titmouse

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[Betong]

A bunch old horny old gits on the "sex for seniors" bus.
One more reason I prefer the plain old Victory Liner to Fly the Bus etc. Though come to think of it I'm not sure why I should like being the oldest guy on the bus instead of the youngest.

[Titmouse]

Well, first blood to the Philippines. This just in. Janice, the girl from Butuan, just hit me up for 9000 pesos to buy blood for her sister’s baby. She sent three identical pleas; I sent a one-word answer: "No" and didn’t even sign it. She’s now calling me on Yahoo Messenger, saying "Sorry. It’s okay. I understand. " Me, too. I understand.

But how to play it? The clean way is a complete cut. Accept my loses, which would include flights and three days of hotel. But if I could shift my Manila-Butuan flight to Cebu, I could skip Butuan and spend four days in Cebu. Tempting, if expensive. I might even drum up some Cebu talent on DIA.

Or I could go and scout the talent in Butuan. Use the flights and the room. No financial loss that way. But conflict is forecast down that road.

Or I could go and use her. She’ll know that bonking me silly is her best defense and best offense. I could play it so that she would do that. Then leave. Payback. I’m still thinking.

In the meantime, a tip on one of the boards clued me in that Cebu Pacific doesn’t take Visa cards (despite its availability on the website) but is happy to accept Mastercard. I have a Mastercard ATM and decided to try it. Success! Well, to be accurate, the first ticket purchase went through without a hitch but then wouldn’t go through on the second. The card issuer, seeing a second foreign transaction, clamped on the lid. A phonecall cleared that up, and I’m in business.

Also, a Cebu girl that I had given up on suddenly reappeared. I figured that, having told her I would only have one day instead of the two originally planned, I had chased her away. As it turns out, she’s happy to meet me for one day and night, so I won’t have to go out chasing girls around Osmena Circle after all. She’s not the prettiest of my contacts, but pretty enough on webcam, so I’m looking forward to the delights she has suggested will be mine.

A friend of mine who was my wingman the previous trip sent me contacts for four girls – three in Angeles City and one in Manila. I sent emails to three of them but no reply yet. I don’t really care if they do or not, as there is plenty of talent in both spots, and several of my remaining possibles from DIA are in Angeles and Manila anyway. My friend had never been mongering anywhere except in the Philippines until I pursuaded him to try Pattaya, Bangkok and Cambodia. He has now abandoned the Philippines (which is why he was willing to share) and is looking for a place to live in Phnom Penh. Lucky guy!

But I guess I wouldn’t mind if some of his contacts wrote back, especially the one in Manila. They come highly recommended, and he’s a picky customer.

Titmouse

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[X Man]

Sounds like fun. How long is your trip?

Minor quibble about La Corona. They had some kind of rubber protector on the mattress which made the sheets slide off more easily than normal.

If you're kinky, maybe just take the sheets off and do it on the rubber cover. Then you can just wipe off the various droppings when it's time for sleep.

We need a Butuan field report! There is no Mindanao thread at ISG, but you might find some info about Butuan in the Davao thread or Dragon Slayer forum.

X





Manila, 4 days, Best Western La Corona

[Wicked Roger]

As it turns out, she’s happy to meet me for one day and night, so I won’t have to go out chasing girls around Osmena Circle after all. She’s not the prettiest of my contacts, but pretty enough on webcam, so I’m looking forward to the delights she has suggested will be mine.

But I guess I wouldn’t mind if some of his contacts wrote back, especially the one in Manila. They come highly recommended, and he’s a picky customer.

Titmouse

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Titmouse

Can you open your PM so I can contact you...maybe can help you.

Also I should be Cebu same time if you want to catch up

PM me please when the function is open...

[X Man]

I've taken the regular bus out of AC, but it's been a long time since I've done it the other way.

Can you confirm? The bus would go to the Dau terminal and then you are looking at a 50 peso trike ride to the hotel. So total expense is under 250 pesos?

The only problem I had with the regular bus is they were playing some damn Filipino radio station at rather high volume.

X


One more reason I prefer the plain old Victory Liner to Fly the Bus etc. Though come to think of it I'm not sure why I should like being the oldest guy on the bus instead of the youngest.

[FireWalker]

Hahahahahahaha. With all of the illegal Mexicans here? For her to get a work visa, she generally has to show she works in a specialty profession with high technical training in a job where there is a lack of American talent available. Granted however, there is a paucity of American sexual talent. A maid might be able to come in on a temporary work visa for non-agricultural workers but the number of those visas is limted every year. In any case, the government says that you still have to pay her above minimum wage, pay her social security and keep her on the books So then she's on the books and you're screwing her? Ummmmmmmm, ever heard of sexual harassment? She's gonna own your home, cars, bank accounts and your ass. You will then be her American butler and she can show you off to all of her pinay friends. Hahahahahahahaha
Sexual Harrassment would be least of your worries. She could say she was a sex slave.

[Fastpiston]

Sexual Harrassment would be least of your worries. She could say she was a sex slave.
I am always amazed at the guys who are still interested in getting into commitments with Filipinas after all the posts of terrible experiences. Perhaps the question that should help clear thinking is: would you get into financial and legal commitments with a ***** from a *****house in the US?

[X Man]

Fastpiston has failed to clarify his information. I do believe he is suggesting not to get into commitments with a bargirl / prostitute.

Any suggestion that a Filipina marriage equates to marriage to a prostitute would be an unfortunate comparison. The ISG website, last time I checked, is about scoring women. P4p is just a subset of that.

I personally don't think marriage is a smart choice for men like myself, but FP seens to be referring to a certain classification of professional sex-workers (bless their hearts).

If I've misread FP's post, I hope he will clarify things.

X




I am always amazed at the guys who are still interested in getting into commitments with Filipinas after all the posts of terrible experiences. Perhaps the question that should help clear thinking is: would you get into financial and legal commitments with a ***** from a *****house in the US?

[Fast Eddie 48]

I've taken the regular bus out of AC, but it's been a long time since I've done it the other way.

Can you confirm? The bus would go to the Dau terminal and then you are looking at a 50 peso trike ride to the hotel. So total expense is under 250 pesos?

The only problem I had with the regular bus is they were playing some damn Filipino radio station at rather high volume.

XTo X,

If bring your I POD and own headphone make you own music , it is only 90 min bus ride from Manila to AC anyway.

Fast eddie 48

[Betong]

The bus would go to the Dau terminal and then you are looking at a 50 peso trike ride to the hotel. So total expense is under 250 pesos?
Exactly. Or if you hate dealing with AC trike drivers, just walk out to MacArthur and catch a jeepney for P8. An iPod is useful against the bus radio (or these days, more likely a video).

[Pute Nut]

Exactly. Or if you hate dealing with AC trike drivers, just walk out to MacArthur and catch a jeepney for P8. An iPod is useful against the bus radio (or these days, more likely a video).

The trike mafia will probably ask for at least 70 P from Dau now, it might take a while and some bargaining skills to get 50 P for a porreigner.

Bus should be around 130+ aircon, so yes, all in about 200+

BTW, the issue of Cheap Charlie bus transportation to AC has recently been discussed (in a light-hearted manner) in the Angeles thread.

[Betong]

BTW, the issue of Cheap Charlie bus transportation to AC has recently been discussed (in a light-hearted manner) in the Angeles thread.
Good info, though I think a truly dedicated CC should also know that you can even do without the cab in Manila by taking the LRT to EDSA/Taft station. The Pasay bus terminals are just a short and really unpleasant walk east from there along EDSA.

[Manfest]

Arrived at the NAIA airport, and as advised, went up the elevators to the departure floors (escalators broken, as are many things in this country). Easily caught a cab that agreed to use the meter to Makati. The fare was about 140P. Interesting how the meters are all placed low behind the stick shift making it difficult to see. When it rains, have to stand in long lines to catch cabs, but probably the safer way to go. Lots of people got upset when I caught a rogue cab offering not to use the meter, but picking up away from the line (what the hell, it was raining at midnight). Funny how more cabs go off the meter when it rains.

Walked into SM to buy a sim card, but was told it would be 200P to open up my phone. I told him it was already opened up, but they insisted I pay 200P before buying a sim. Walked up to the 3rd floor and found another place that sold it to me for 50P.

When returning to the airport, should make a note that one needs to add 30-60 minutes just to get into the airport building! There is a long looping line to scan your bags before entering. Now, this line would be fine, but every 10th person is trying to cut in line!! WTF! Also, when I asked a cab from the hotel lobby, they quoted 1000P, but said no. I walked down to the street and caught one using the meter for 160P.

My post-game analysis was that this was an extremely fun place to visit, numerous choices and some great quality mongering just in Makati and MM (see various posts regarding some scams). Nevertheless, underdeveloped country so probably will get scammed a little bit no matter how seasoned you are. Just have to go with the flow.

[Buko Max]

When returning to the airport, should make a note that one needs to add 30-60 minutes just to get into the airport building!
Yes very good advise, especially on the weekends! To be extra safe so you don't miss your international departure, arrive at least three hours ahead of time.

FYI, there are now yellow metered cabs available outside the arrivals door. On my last trip, I payed about the same price going to Ermita with tip.

[Fastpiston]

Fastpiston has failed to clarify his information. I do believe he is suggesting not to get into commitments with a bargirl / prostitute.

Any suggestion that a Filipina marriage equates to marriage to a prostitute would be an unfortunate comparison. The ISG website, last time I checked, is about scoring women. P4p is just a subset of that.

I personally don't think marriage is a smart choice for men like myself, but FP seens to be referring to a certain classification of professional sex-workers (bless their hearts).

If I've misread FP's post, I hope he will clarify things.

X

X Man, you are correct. My comment was directed at guys who go over there to Phils, meet a bar girl, get into all sorts of legal and financial commitments with them (marriage & Visas), and then end up ruining themselves financially. Filipinas outside the bar scene offer a far better bet and very easy to meet.

[FireWalker]

X Man, you are correct. My comment was directed at guys who go over there to Phils, meet a bar girl, get into all sorts of legal and financial commitments with them (marriage & Visas), and then end up ruining themselves financially. Filipinas outside the bar scene offer a far better bet and very easy to meet.

Tell that to guy I heard on Tom Leykis (radio) the other day.

He met a model in the Phils 10 years ago. He was a millionaire at 18(dot com) and was doing some business in Manila. He fell in love and married her. He sold his business and decided to become a cop. Meanwhile, he amassed about 4 million in real estate on the side with no mortgages.

Some idiot of a financial advisor suggested he move his assets into his wife's name because he, as a policeman, could be subject to personal liability. He also over the years brought his wife's family over to US and even bought them a house (cash).

At 10 years into the marriage, she files for divorce. He is totally fucked. He is fighting for his half of the property plus he will have to pay about 5000 a month in alimony and another 2500 in child support.

Bar Girls are not that smart.

[X Man]

Firewalker, I enjoyed your post, but have a few things to add...

1) Tom Leykis is a shock jock comedian
2) Why would a millionare become a policeman?
3) the girl was a model (not ordinary at all)
4) "bar girls aren't that smart", but they will have friends that recommend divorce lawyers whether they are happily married or not.

Did he file a lawsuit against the financial planner or did he just kill the guy?

X


Tell that to guy I heard on Tom Leykis (radio) the other day.

He met a model in the Phils 10 years ago. He was a millionaire at 18(dot com) and was doing some business in Manila. He fell in love and married her. He sold his business and decided to become a cop. Meanwhile, he amassed about 4 million in real estate on the side with no mortgages.

Some idiot of a financial advisor suggested he move his assets into his wife's name because he, as a policeman, could be subject to personal liability. He also over the years brought his wife's family over to US and even bought them a house (cash).

At 10 years into the marriage, she files for divorce. He is totally fucked. He is fighting for his half of the property plus he will have to pay about 5000 a month in alimony and another 2500 in child support.

Bar Girls are not that smart.

[FireWalker]

Firewalker, I enjoyed your post, but have a few things to add...

1) Tom Leykis is a shock jock comedian
2) Why would a millionare become a policeman?
3) the girl was a model (not ordinary at all)
4) "bar girls aren't that smart", but they will have friends that recommend divorce lawyers whether they are happily married or not.

Did he file a lawsuit against the financial planner or did he just kill the guy?

X

1. Leykis may be funny, but I wouldn't call him a comedian.
2. Why wouldn't a millionaire become a cop? It would be stupid at 18 with a alot of money, not to do something. Maybe, that's what he wanted to do with his life. Hell, it might be a good job if you didn't have to worry about money. I had an uncle who was a cop, he loved it. He had lots of time off to work on restoring classic cars.
3. She was a high paid model earning her own income.
4. So called regular girls have the same friends or relatives.

My point is that so called "regular girls" are not safer to get involved with than bar girls. I actually trust bargirls more than some "hooker" on the internet.

[Titmouse]

Yesterday I told my wife about the coming trip. Tomorrow I will tell Janice that I’m not coming to Butuan. My wife took it well. I suspect Janice will not.

Yes, I’m still married, and yes, she has now tolerated two trips a year for almost four years. She has a pretty good idea what I’m up to, although we don’t talk about it. The last two trips, she has taken me to the airport.

(Later)

Yup, Janice didn’t take it well at all. She pestered me online even though my intent was to write a letter, so I jumped onto YM and told her I wasn’t coming. The next 15 minutes were excruciating. She couldn’t understand why, even though I told her. In fact, her persistence and unwillingness were the bigger factors in my decision to go instead of her potential for money-sucking. But I think I finally got it ended.

Meanwhile, DIA has mostly dried up. I could go shopping by sending mail to possibles but I decided to join Filipina Hearts instead. Wow, did that stir up a lot of action. If I’m logged in, I get IMs and emails even when it should be the middle of the night there. Too much, actually. It’s hard to concentrate on any one of them under the bombardment. Maybe it’s because I’m new blood there. I bought a one-month subscription. It will expire while I’m on the road.

The pick of the litter is Sandy, whose profile said elsewhere but is actually working in Davao at an Internet Café. We chatted while she worked. She’s also a caregiver student which was verified by the uniform she was still wearing. She has offered to be my "tour guide, " although what we were actually talking about evolved and became clearer as the conversation progressed. We’ll probably meet on Saturday, my last day there, and spend the day together, starting at breakfast. She gets off work at 7 a. M.

I also had a long conversation with Jenny in Zamboanga, which was senseless since I’m not going there, but I’m sure I would get her if I did. She’s a nurse. Just what I need for my old age.

Meanwhile, I changed my PAL flight from Butuan (sorry, guys, no report from there) to Davao. I debated between Cebu and Davao for a long time. Davao finally won out because of information mined from this and other boards. Cebu would be more expensive bothfor hotels and girls, I think. And it’s been nearly two years since I was in Davao. I booked a room at Casa Leticia based on info from the boards.

I’ll still fly back to Cebu for one night with my Lapu Lapu girl (or as she types "Lapu2x") before heading to Angeles City. Two cuties to meet there, and if either one falls through there is plenty to choose from.

Changing my flight from Butuan to Cebu will cost about $30, but saves an entire new flight. Or does it? I probably could have flown Cebu Pacific to Davao for about that, but I would have given up the already paid cost of the flight to Butuan. I told Janice to see about a refund from the hotel booking there (if she paid it). I consider that an acceptable loss, because I would have probably sent her a guilt gift otherwise.

After I’d decided to go to Davao instead of Cebu, I got a great offer for a young twosome from a board member and was sorry to have to decline. He seems to be training them for service. Drat! Oh well. I don’t expect to be short of service. Probably more than I can handle at my advanced age.

Later, Titmouse

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[X Man]

Well, bar girls are easier to read IMHO, so I can see your point. And I imagine there are more than a few guys out there who married bar girls and things turned out well. We just don't hear many of those stories here.

X





My point is that so called "regular girls" are not safer to get involved with than bar girls. I actually trust bargirls more than some "hooker" on the internet.

[Wicked Roger]

Yesterday I told my wife about the coming trip.

Yes, I’m still married, and yes, she has now tolerated two trips a year for almost four years. She has a pretty good idea what I’m up to, although we don’t talk about it. The last two trips, she has taken me to the airport.

After I’d decided to go to Davao instead of Cebu, I got a great offer for a young twosome from a board member and was sorry to have to decline. He seems to be training them for service. Drat! Oh well. I don’t expect to be short of service. Probably more than I can handle at my advanced age.

Later, Titmouse

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TM

You are never too old to have fun :D Always time to experience new things. Shame we wont meet but there is always a next time

As for wifes etc I have friends who go golfing for week every year in Bangkok. Never sure if the wives know or care, some wives I do know and they are keen to see the back of the husband and also that he gets all those "deviant ideas" out of his head :D

Others know what he will do and encourage (but then they are swingers - one once went the guys but she was into all sorts).

But then I have friends here in the UAE who are barred (by the wife) from recruitment trips to the Philippines......some actually dont like me being around chatting about the Philippines :) YMMV

[Titmouse]

the list keeps evolving. a couple of girls i thought were certain are off the list or relegated to maybes. but new ones keep coming. i wish i was living in the philippines or thailand. i could mine the dating boards forever.

i dropped janice from butuan. i think we would have had a hot time but the prospects for entanglement and expense were just too much. instead, i’m going to davao for thursday-saturday. i’m chatting with a girl who works at an internet café, who is a maybe. she’s a little flaky, but – if she decides to go for it – i think we will spend a lovely afternoon together.

(from one of our chats:)
titmouse: you are so bold in some ways and so frightened in others.
tess: hehe yeah that is right
titmouse: don't be frightened. i will take good care of you. you will have a good experience and you will be glad you did.
tess: i want to experience many things
titmouse: is there anything you've always wanted to try?
tess: i dont want to regret my decision
tess: many things
tess: and i dont know the others
tess: u know why i want to do this because they say having sex is like u forgetting all ur problem huh
titmouse: well, at least during...
tess: yeah

if sandy doesn’t work out, i’ve gathered enough info about davao from the boards to find alternatives, i think. if i can stay up late enough.

thanks to all who contribute, by the way. i have been gathering information for more than two years on various places. i doubt i would have been brave enough to make my first trip without you. now, i’m almost a veteran. i’ll try to pay back your efforts as the trip progresses.

i’ll fly to cebu for one night after davao. i think brenda will meet me at the airport but we haven’t talked in several days. i just sent an email to touch base with her. she’s pretty certain for action if she shows. if not, i may try to find liza’s as i leave mactan. and since i’m staying at the midtown, i can surely find someone around osmena circle.

the next afternoon, it’s off to angeles city with a direct flight to clark. no shortage of talent there. i’ll be in angeles for four nights starting sept 8. i’m hoping to meet nenita – she seems to be a non-pro but willing – who is very cute on webcam. and there’s a waitress at the blue nile as a backup. also, my ex-wingman paul has provided two names plus a mamasan at la pasha. not that i would need much help in angeles in finding company.

after that, it’s off to thailand. i’ll fly to udon thani to pick up pen, stay one night, and then return to bangkok and on to pattaya. i was a little concerned she might be a chubby, but her fuller picture on dia is better. a few pounds is not that important. i don’t like them bony. and who am i to complain? if it doesn’t work out in udon, i’ll leave her there and return on my own. this would be my fourth trip to pattaya, so i can find my way around.

if all goes well – or even if it doesn’t – i’ll take pen back to bangkok and put her on the plane, then spend four days in bangkok. i’m staying at the majestic suites and haven’t made any arrangements there. why bother? there’s no shortage of women, in and out of doors. might even get a "massage. " or try [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901)’s, which i’ve never visited.

then i will drag my weary body back to manila for another three days starting sept 21. i’ve made contact with michelle, a referral from my wingman who seems very nice. there’s also mary jane and marcie who would be glad to get a phone call. i’d like to check out some of the bars besides la café, too. if i have any money left. or the strength to spend it.

next week, i’ll start to pack. (anyone interested in my packing list? ) i usually pack and repack several times to get weight down. i’ll try to avoid surcharges. my friend paul manages with just a backpack. i can’t imagine how he does it. of course, he’s not wearing clothes most of the time.

titmouse

[Deep Diver]

I found out that I had ALOT of video from a few filipinas that I was interested in sharing. However being the shy kinda guy I am I would rather not have my face in the videos which would unfortunately remove some very good footage. Does anyone know of a easy to use video editer that I could use to pixalate me yet still show some good video. I think it would be in the fashion to what the japanese use on their videos.

[J Europe]

I found out that I had ALOT of video from a few filipinas that I was interested in sharing. However being the shy kinda guy I am I would rather not have my face in the videos which would unfortunately remove some very good footage. Does anyone know of a easy to use video editer that I could use to pixalate me yet still show some good video. I think it would be in the fashion to what the japanese use on their videos.I only do basic video editing with WMM, but here's a list of software I usually recommend for ease of use and a good range of features.

Adobe Premiere Elements 4 - $60-99 (shop around or check with Adobe for student discounts) - a cut-down version of Premiere, easier to use and allows the students to get more familiar with a professional video editor without the complexity and expense.

Pinnacle Studio 11 - $45- popular choice, good features and easy to use interface.

Corel VideoStudio 11.5 Plus - $85 - similar to Pinnacle.

Zwei-Stein - freeware - excellent quality for the price. Recommended for beginners.

Sony Vegas Pro 8 - $375 (free demos and trial versions available if required) - similar to the full version of Premiere.

The first and last may be a bit a an overkill however they are feature rich.

J

[Aussiec]

Well I am considering something new other than the same old Angeles routine. I am considering going to Phnom Phen though Clark if possible or most likely though Manila. I have checked sites and seems not that easy to get to Phnom Phen. I would like suggestion (s) on cost, airline and visa information. Thanks for any imput anyone has. I will be in A. C this September for trip #8. Hmm does this qualify me as an experience Monger yet! Wish I could meet up with old friend Dave from USA but he won't be here for while due mononucleosus how ever the way you spell it. Anyway anyones help on fly from phil to Cambodia would be great.

[Cunning Stunt]

I only do basic video editing with WMM, but here's a list of software I usually recommend for ease of use and a good range of features.

Adobe Premiere Elements 4 - $60-99 (shop around or check with Adobe for student discounts) - a cut-down version of Premiere, easier to use and allows the students to get more familiar with a professional video editor without the complexity and expense.

Pinnacle Studio 11 - $45- popular choice, good features and easy to use interface.

Corel VideoStudio 11.5 Plus - $85 - similar to Pinnacle.

Zwei-Stein - freeware - excellent quality for the price. Recommended for beginners.

Sony Vegas Pro 8 - $375 (free demos and trial versions available if required) - similar to the full version of Premiere.

The first and last may be a bit a an overkill however they are feature rich.

J


Of course, I would never recommend breaking the law, but if you check on bittorrent sites (Demonoid, Mininova etc), it is quite easy to find cracked versions of these expensive bits of kit for download for free :D. Similarly if you are in the Philippines (or most other countries in SE Asia), it is relatively easy to find pirated video editing software on open sale in various places (which was discussed not so long ago on this very thread). Take care though if you are from the States with their draconian copyright laws and nosy customs officials!

[Deep Diver]

Thanks J Europe I looked at 2 you had on the list and still I am lost as to how to block out just the face I guess its something I need to look into in the help section of the programs. BTW do you know what the technique is called that i am trying to do? that might help me when I look at the help section
thanks

[J Europe]

Thanks J Europe I looked at 2 you had on the list and still I am lost as to how to block out just the face I guess its something I need to look into in the help section of the programs. BTW do you know what the technique is called that I am trying to do? that might help me when I look at the help section.

ThanksDeep Diver, You have what you want to do correctly named. On how to do just do a google search on what you are trying to do with the name of the program.

For example:how to pixelate videos in Adobe Premiere Elements 4?. Just type that in just about any search engine and you should be able to find what you need.

Gamahucher was also spot on in his last post.

[Cunning Stunt]

Thanks J Europe I looked at 2 you had on the list and still I am lost as to how to block out just the face I guess its something I need to look into in the help section of the programs. BTW do you know what the technique is called that i am trying to do? that might help me when I look at the help section
thanks

Hi DD, You could read Asian Rains post on this subject at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=654314&postcount=43 GH

P.S Seems a bit complicated to me - I'd just take the easy route and edit out the bits where your head intrudes.

[HornyGeorge]

No direct flights from PI to Cambodia yet. When Cebu Pacific's hub at Clark gets established next year (hopefully), it would make sense they would add PP as a destination. But making sense and Filipino airlines do not often overlap.

As of now, you still must transit either Thailand, HK or Viet Nam to get to PP from the PI.

[Fast Eddie 48]

No direct flights from PI to Cambodia yet. When Cebu Pacific's hub at Clark gets established next year (hopefully), it would make sense they would add PP as a destination. But making sense and Filipino airlines do not often overlap.

As of now, you still must transit either Thailand, HK or Viet Nam to get to PP from the PI.Horny George,

I have fly Cathay to Hong kong and then Dragon air to PP 2 yr ago short transit in HK.

Fast eddie 48

[HornyGeorge]

FE: Bet that was a pricey trip as both Cathay and dragon Air are quite expensive. CERTAINLY more than double what the low cost carriers would charge if they flew the route. Cebu Pacific to HK would be cheaper, but flights to PP have always been a ripoff. ALWAYS. Ditto to Laos. Little traffic, little competition, sky high prices.

[Fast Eddie 48]

FE: Bet that was a pricey trip as both Cathay and dragon Air are quite expensive. CERTAINLY more than double what the low cost carriers would charge if they flew the route. Cebu Pacific to HK would be cheaper, but flights to PP have always been a ripoff. ALWAYS. Ditto to Laos. Little traffic, little competition, sky high prices.Horny G,

Cathay now own dragon air not sure about the cost I use my cathay millage only paid 42 usd for the tax, but even Asia Air cost over 100 USD now from BKK to PP round trip no more deal fuel cost too high .

Fast Eddie 48

[Aussiec]

As much as I frequent there I have never looked into opening a bank account in PI. What do they require (documents) and how secure is it?

[El Culion]

Hey guys,
What's the translation of: "Tagam wala ka katingod"?
I tried the on-line dictionaries but no dice :(
Your help will be appreciated.

[Aussiec]

"Tagam wala ka katingod" is not a Tagalog phrase or word. However it maybe a native dialect. If it is a native Dialect it will be hard to find online for those dialects are native.

[Aussiec]

I found out what "Tagam wala ka katingod" means. In bisaya and it means "good for you u cant talk" Its a dialect in the southern parts of Philippines.

Hope this helped

[Acfreddie]

As much as I frequent there I have never looked into opening a bank account in PI. What do they require (documents) and how secure is it?At China bank at the Sm mall, you will need a copy of your Passport, a bill showing your local address and two 1" x 1" pictures of yourself.

As for how secure it is, the money is "insured" by the Philippine government for between P100,000 and P200,000 (depending on the bank). IMO it would be up to you to decide how "safe/secure" your money is when insured by the Phil government.

I have an account there and another bank in the Phil. Never had a problem with money missing or the like, but for sure customer service is not up to western standards. Also it generally takes about 30 WORKING days for a deposited check to clear (even though the money is generally taken out of the other account within 3-4 days), the banks here sit on the money and make interest off of it. Wire transfers usually take between 2-5 days to clear. WHEN (if) there is a problem with a wire transfer (such as one letter spelling mistake) it can take quite a long time to clear it up and requires a trip inside to the manager to fill out mounds of paperwork before the money will be credited to your account (this happened to me on a couple of occasions with Equitable PCI [ now BDO bank).

[El Culion]

"Tagam wala ka katingod" is not a Tagalog phrase or word.

In bisaya and it means "good for you u cant talk" Its a dialect in the southern parts of Philippines.
Thanks, Dcand, but I'm not quite sure about your translation. I'm aware it's not Tagalog. As I said I tried to find the translation in online dictionaries. The phrase was used by a Davao girl.

[Aussiec]

Ask friend of mine from Davoe. Means "why you not speak" hope that helps.

[El Culion]

Ask friend of mine from Davoe. Means "why you not speak" hope that helps.
OK, thanks!

[Redfield10]

I'm headed to the Phils for the first time. I have a round trip ticket purchased from SFO to Manila from Oct. 23-Nov. 10. I'm thinking of spending maybe the first two nights in Manila, then maybe three days in Puerto Galera, back to Manila for the night and then connect with a flight the next day for maybe a week in Cebu (with perhaps an excursion to Bohol, Siquijor and/ or somewhere else in that area). Then I'll probably spend the last two nights in Manila.

If anyone will be around during the time I"m in the Phils, let me know and maybe we can hang out some.

My question is: Is it advisable to buy the Manila to Cebu round trip ticket before I go to the Phils as I've heard it can be busy around Halloween. Or, in case I want to change some of my plans after I arrive, is it ok to wait until a day or two before I fly inter-island so as to maximize my flexibility? I want flexibility, but don't want to get stuck with having difficulty booking a flight from Manila to Cebu, for example. Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks guys!

[Aussiec]

If you are buying a ticket outside of Philippines for a trip to Manila to cebu you will pay much more. Buying ticket on Aussie or USA ground will cost more. Any others want to share in why other than the obvious of fleecing the foriegn guy.

[Brown Rail]

I'm headed to the Phils for the first time. I have a round trip ticket purchased from SFO to Manila from Oct. 23-Nov. 10. I'm thinking of spending maybe the first two nights in Manila, then maybe three days in Puerto Galera, back to Manila for the night and then connect with a flight the next day for maybe a week in Cebu (with perhaps an excursion to Bohol, Siquijor and/ or somewhere else in that area). Then I'll probably spend the last two nights in Manila.

If anyone will be around during the time I"m in the Phils, let me know and maybe we can hang out some.

My question is: Is it advisable to buy the Manila to Cebu round trip ticket before I go to the Phils as I've heard it can be busy around Halloween. Or, in case I want to change some of my plans after I arrive, is it ok to wait until a day or two before I fly inter-island so as to maximize my flexibility? I want flexibility, but don't want to get stuck with having difficulty booking a flight from Manila to Cebu, for example. Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks guys!It is really up to you, if you have a bit of flexibility there are lots of flights from Manila to Cebu, even boats. Check out the Cebu Pacific web site (http://www.cebupacificair.com/). Flights can't easily or cheaply be changed but they are cheap and pleantiful.

You can book you flights now on line. There are sales now, so it will cost you only about $60 round trip. Book each leg seperatly so if you decide to abandon one they won't cancel both (thought I am not sure they do this anyway).



You could

[Bob Bowie]

.

My question is: Is it advisable to buy the Manila to Cebu round trip ticket before I go to the Phils as I've heard it can be busy around Halloween. Or, in case I want to change some of my plans after I arrive, is it ok to wait until a day or two before I fly inter-island so as to maximize my flexibility? I want flexibility, but don't want to get stuck with having difficulty booking a flight from Manila to Cebu, for example. Can anyone shed some light?

Thanks guys!
I just took a few island flights a few months ago. I really liked the flexibility of being able to buy my tickets a day or 2 before my flight. Just compare the PAL and Cebu Pacific websites for a flight that is good for you, so many flights between Cebu and Manila you should have no problem getting one that fits your schedule.

I am not sure about Halloween.

[Redfield10]

Yes, well, that's what I'm wondering about. As I'm planning on flying to Cebu from Manila around Oct. 31st. Give or take. I don't want to get stuck in Manila. I'm guessing that I'd be able to hop on a flight with a day or two advance booking there, but not sure. Otherwise, I can just book it here I guess and hope those are the days I end up flying.


I just took a few island flights a few months ago. I really liked the flexibility of being able to buy my tickets a day or 2 before my flight. Just compare the PAL and Cebu Pacific websites for a flight that is good for you, so many flights between Cebu and Manila you should have no problem getting one that fits your schedule.

I am not sure about Halloween.

[Redfield10]

Hmm. Since Oct. 31 is All Soul's day, maybe if I changed my Manila to Cebu flight (tentatiave from Oct. 31 to Nov 8) to a departure time of Nov. 1? Would that help?

Suggestions here are welcome as this is my first time to the Phils.

Thanks, guys.

[EZ Feelin]

I spent 9 nights in Angeles last month, stayed at the Tiger Hotel (ok but small for me, service good but location not so good). I met up with a couple of friends, experienced mongers, a brit and a chinese from malaysia. They got here a few days later, but luck was with me.

First day I ended up meeting a real cool guy at Margaritaville, playing pool with him. I know I know, we all gotta be careful of strangers, however, turns out he worked for CDC and was just the acquaintance I needed. All I did was just buy him a few beers, met his wife and kids.

Best of all he introduced me to two guys who i now consider friends, an american who has been living there 6 years and a greek cypriot aussie citizen.

You know they say birds of a feather flock together, well we sure hit it off. All these guys do is just hang out, party, enjoy the clubs and the pinays. They were kind enough to take me around all the nice clubs from Dollhouse, to Insomnia to Camelot to you name it, I went there. 7 ladies in 9 days, and one two nights, a bit much for an old fart like me. It was really paradise.

They even took me in their car to Subic for a day trip, had lunch by the beach. I am experienced in Thailand, been there, done that, seen that, and I now have the Philippines bug.

Just came back 25th of Aug, and already have a booking leaving again on the l3th thru the 31st of October. Again angeles this time, but in december new years at Cebu with an american friend. Have to decide where I am gonna hang my hat for a while.

A quick question: I know a foreigner cannot own land in Ph, but what if a filipino buys the property, and I am holding the paper on it, (the trust deed or mortgage), then I lease it back from him for something like 25 plus 25 years or in some cases it can be 50 plus 25 years, at 1 peso a year or something.

I am looking a lot of developments and will check with the developers also if I can buy the house outright from them but lease the land for 50 years at a nominal rate.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Hoohah, counting the days.

By the way, any of you check out the Bangladesh site, I used to be an authority there for a while but it got boring, as no interesting action from other mongers, just requests for numbers.

Cheers

EzFeelin

[Titmouse]

On THE ROAD

Left home Tuesday night for Manila and onward. The Philippine Airlines flight out of LA has replaced its usual plane with a 747 that can make the trans-Pacific flight without a refueling stop at Guam, cutting the flight time several hours from the usual butt-numbing 16 hours. Unfortunately, PAL hasn’t changed their departure time, so the flight arrives before 4 a. M.

Not much to do at NAIA at 4 a. M. My connecting flight leaves at 10: 20. Too little time for recreation, too much time for sitting around. I considered Air Force One, but that didn’t seem the right way to start my adventure.

I’m heading for Davao. As I suspected, my flaky Internet café girl flaked out. She was always a maybe – torn between a desire for a wild afternoon and a reluctance to bend her rules. The rules won.

I’m not too concerned. I collected info from various boards on where to meet temporary company. I’ve probably got more opportunities than time. I’m staying at Casa Leticia, and word is that ladies are available just outside the door and down the street. For a start.

I like Davao. It’s not a wide open town, but that’s part of it’s charm. Last time I was here alone, I was only partly successful. I hope to do better this time.

I tried to pack lighter this trip but I still wound up with a small suitcase and a heavy backpack. My worst indulgence is five paperback novels. I’ve also brought a bunch of small chocolates and some small stuffed animals as gifts for the girls. Although my friend travels with only a backpack, I just can’t get that small. The backpack has my laptop, which I want on the plane, and clothes for a three-week trip go in the suitcase. I also brought a full-size vibrator in addition to the pocket rocket I usually carry.

I’m expecting them to announce my Davao flight any minute. Onward.

ON THE GROUND

Got to Casa Leticia in Davao yesterday mid-afternoon. A nice hotel and closer to the Apo View than I had thought. It’s just down the street. But the first priority was sleep, in a bed. I woke up around 6 pm and started out for dinner and company.

But no ladies on the street. It had started raining and kept raining until nearly 10 pm. About 8, I set out with my umbrella and made a big rectangular loop down Legaspi/Palayo to San Pedro, south to Recto, back to Palma Gil and up to the hotel. There were a few girls at Recto and Palma Gil but nothing I wanted.

A bit frustrated after so much planning and anticipation, I was ready to call it a night but the rain stopped. The front security guard suggested a massage but I wasn’t in the mood. Instead, I took a walk north and, turning down Quirino, noticed a bar on the other side of the street. I walked on but headed back on the other side. It was a KTV. Bah!

But, to my own surprise and after some conversation outside with a couple of the girls, I went in. To my greater surprise, I wound up in a VIP room with one of the girls. She was not especially pretty and she was plumper than I like, but she was nice and willing and we did the deed. Twice. She gave me her phone number but I’m not going to call. I have no excuse except that I’d never been to a KTV. Well, now I have. I doubt I’ll do it again. Bonking on a sofa is for teenagers. I paid 1500 pesos, which was too much, and there were too many beers that I didn’t drink. And several that I did.

Went to sleep about 3 am, woke at 7 hungry enough to eat a shark. I had an excellent breakfast in the hotel restaurant. The cook actually managed to make eggs over easy that were neither under- nor overcooked. Will wonders never cease? Good toast, too, and excellent juice. The coffee was so-so, but not bad. Satisfied, I went back to bed and slept until time for lunch. I had planned on visiting the Japanese restaurant on the top floor but the housekeeper said it was closed. It is, but reopened next door, which I didn’t discover until after a modest lunch.

I spent most of the afternoon reading. Tonight, I’m supposed to connect with a board member. After that, I don’t know. But so far it isn’t raining, and it’s Friday night. Have to be better hunting. (Said with fingers crossed.)

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[Darth Sushi]

A quick question: I know a foreigner cannot own land in Ph, but what if a filipino buys the property, and I am holding the paper on it, (the trust deed or mortgage), then I lease it back from him for something like 25 plus 25 years or in some cases it can be 50 plus 25 years, at 1 peso a year or something.

I am looking a lot of developments and will check with the developers also if I can buy the house outright from them but lease the land for 50 years at a nominal rate.

EzFeelin

My advise is to play around the sandbox for a year of two to get acclimated before you invest, and find a good lawyer. I've met too many mongers who jumped the gun and now regret moving too fast. Just my two cents.

[IgoforAsian]

As I suspected, my flaky Internet café girl flaked out. She was always a maybe Thanks for the report Titmouse.

You know, it has always amazed me how many guys will spend so much time finding chicks on the internet in preparation for their trip. There is no need! Don't bother. If you read the reports, the internet girls usually don't pan out. Many are flakes just looking for a guy with $$.

The whole beauty of the scene in the Phil is the ability to troll around the bars and retail spots. There is a huge abundance of bar girls, freelancers and freebies (and everything in between), and lots of chances to check out the girl face to face before taking her back to your hotel.

I am a big believer in chemistry. You will never know if you will click with a girl and feel that mutual attraction until you meet her. There are so many girls looking for a western boyfriend, IMHO there is no need to bother with all those interent girls. Just a waste of time and energy in my view.

[Titmouse]

Well, Igofor, you may be right. To each his own. You may enjoy trolling the bars, and sometimes I do, too. The truth is, I'm basically a shy guy who compensates as best he can but is not a social lion. I'm better in the long run than the short. I also like to have extended chats with girls on line. So far, I'm pretty accurate in assessing them. But it's really just a form of play. And what else can I do from Los Angeles except anticipate and salivate?

[Titmouse]

last night ended at 5 am this morning, so please excuse a report much shorter than it deserves. it began with dinner at de bonte koe on rizal street with michael from the isg board and his lady, mary. they were both charming, especially mary. he also invited two others who were in town – orlando and mike. our long. leisurely dinner began about 8:30 and ended close to midnight, with henny, the owner, joining us for the last hour or so.

michael and mary went home, and orlando, mike and i went to club 183, which is less than two blocks north on rizal. it’s actually a series of bars in and around a passageway. we had dirnks outside but the action was was thin. it was probably better inside the club bars, but we were not in the mood for drinking and dancing. we headed down the street and turned the corner where orlando – recovering from a hip injury and making his first excursion without a cane in several weeks – caught a cab back to his hotel.

moments later, we bumped into marlyn, a thin, cute and somewhat older girl than the younger ones we had been ogling. we were headed for the auto shop but marlyn said the venue was better so we invited her to come with us. as it turned out, the venue wasn’t very lively at 1 a.m. the band quit playing shortly after we arrived, which allowed us to chat without shouting.

at first, mike – who is younger and a better talker than i – seemed to have the inside track. but when marlyn went to the cr, he took himself out of the running, saying he had several girls from previous visits and at least one would be willing to come over to his condo despite the late hour. his condo is near bangayan (sp?) beach and he invited us to go down there. when we grabbed a cab, he took the front seat and marlyn and i sat together in back. she cuddled up and took my hand without being asked, not minding at all.

we didn’t get to bangayan, which i would have liked to see, but instead walked down an alleyway with karaoke booths on both sides. i could have skipped the karaoke but marlyn was as eager as a filipina, so we shared a large outdoor booth and listened to bad singing from both inside and outside the booth. fortunately, it was 2 a.m., and the singing soon had to shut down. before long, we said goodbye to mike and grabbed a cab back to casa leticia. i was glad the desk clerk was male, as most of the daytime desk staff is female. the clerk smiled and handed me my room key.

marlyn had already made it clear she was ready. she stripped to bra and panties while i was taking a [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134). we kissed standing for a bit and then we took turns in the shower.before launching a marathon bonk that only ended in exhaustion around 5 a.m. i expected marlyn to stay and catch some sleep, but she asked nicely if she could go home as her sister was expecting her. i didn’t really mind. i slipped 1000 pesos in her hip pocket, which she had surely earned, and handed her 100 pesos for cab fare. and said goodnight.

the sun is up and people are drifting into people’s park for exercise. i’m going to sleep.

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[X Man]

Titmouse's latest post apparently belongs in the Davao thread. Thanks for the DV field report.

And IgoforAsia, have you really tried Net gals? Looking forward to your post in the chat/pen pals thread detailing your lack of success with web ladies.

I've had 40% success rate in the first 24 hours. Maybe I'm just better looking than you.

And why would Net gals looking for money be all that different from bar girls looking for money.

Some people can't see the forest for the trees.

X

[Robbaf]

I agree X, I live and work in the Philippines and I still use the net to find diamonds. I like the chase and adventure of meeting a lady online, especially one who has never dated a foreigner, and after meeting her in person taking her to my room. I try to make all new dates:D for lunch, so I can I leave fast if it isn't right, but if it is right, I always have time:D I am also about at 40% success rate. I also like to go bar hoping, but something about fucking a stunner, who has been BF'ed every night for a year vs. a lady who hasn't had sex in five years...hmmmmmmmmm. Try it, you might like it. Most girls online tell me that their biggest problem is that guys chat with them and never come and visit. So, thanks for not showing up, because when you do show up, they know that if they do not sleep with you that you can go to the bar, so they want to make you happy.

Picture is of a 31 year old accountant. I met her on line one year before meeting in person. She is the most vocal that I have very had. Over time she web cammed (nude) and told me what she would do, and she lived up to the expectations.

Robb

[IgoforAsian]

Looking forward to your post in the chat/pen pals thread detailing your lack of success with web ladies.

I've had 40% success rate in the first 24 hours. Maybe I'm just better looking than you.

XThere was no intention on my part to disparage those who choose to go after the internet girls! If you have the time and inclination, go for it!

I think if you read my post closely, I am just giving my humble opinion (maybe I should have spelled out IMHO). I was trying to share some advice for those who are perhaps planning a trip to the Phil that it is not necessary to set up a bunch of contacts before hand. Again, if you do have the time an inclination, go for it. But some of us have full time jobs and don't have much free time when preparing for a trip.

As for you X, I have long tired of the way you attack members here who make valuable contributions. Now that you have made an unprovoked attack on me, you will now have the honour of being the only member on my "ignore" list. You can therefore expect no further comment from me.

Cheers and happy pooning!

[Bill Buxton]

I spent 9 nights in Angeles last month, stayed at the Tiger Hotel (ok but small for me, service good but location not so good). I met up with a couple of friends, experienced mongers, a brit and a chinese from malaysia. They got here a few days later, but luck was with me.

First day I ended up meeting a real cool guy at Margaritaville, playing pool with him. I know I know, we all gotta be careful of strangers, however, turns out he worked for CDC and was just the acquaintance I needed. All I did was just buy him a few beers, met his wife and kids.

Best of all he introduced me to two guys who i now consider friends, an american who has been living there 6 years and a greek cypriot aussie citizen.

You know they say birds of a feather flock together, well we sure hit it off. All these guys do is just hang out, party, enjoy the clubs and the pinays. They were kind enough to take me around all the nice clubs from Dollhouse, to Insomnia to Camelot to you name it, I went there. 7 ladies in 9 days, and one two nights, a bit much for an old fart like me. It was really paradise.

They even took me in their car to Subic for a day trip, had lunch by the beach. I am experienced in Thailand, been there, done that, seen that, and I now have the Philippines bug.

Just came back 25th of Aug, and already have a booking leaving again on the l3th thru the 31st of October. Again angeles this time, but in december new years at Cebu with an american friend. Have to decide where I am gonna hang my hat for a while.

A quick question: I know a foreigner cannot own land in Ph, but what if a filipino buys the property, and I am holding the paper on it, (the trust deed or mortgage), then I lease it back from him for something like 25 plus 25 years or in some cases it can be 50 plus 25 years, at 1 peso a year or something.

I am looking a lot of developments and will check with the developers also if I can buy the house outright from them but lease the land for 50 years at a nominal rate.

Any thoughts are appreciated.

Hoohah, counting the days.

By the way, any of you check out the Bangladesh site, I used to be an authority there for a while but it got boring, as no interesting action from other mongers, just requests for numbers.

Cheers

EzFeelinSeems the land issue still stays alive and well here,should I buy or rent. Please dont think that you can get a clear deed to the land even if you go through a lawyer.I have a friend who thought he was OK with his purchase and last I knew he was in the shits with a title problem.

Be careful and why buy a place when you can rent and never part with your hard earned peso.

B.B.

[Titmouse]

Igofor, X man and Robbaf (among others) have different opinions on this, as do I. So far, I've done pretty well. I'm batting one for one, which is 1000. A report will follow, but my first contact was Brenda, in Cebu, and we had a great afternoon and night.

It takes a little effort, but for me that's part of the fun. As I said previously, there not much else to do in the weeks before a trip, so why not chat 'them up and pan for gold? Brenda was not perfect but she was at least a nugget.

Igofor is right that the simple alternatives are right in front of you once you get to places like Angeles and Pattaya. I've done that and enjoyed it, and you pretty much know what you're going to get. Although, is there anyone who's done much of this who hasn't wound up with a starfish or other surprise once he's paid his money?

Brenda will cost me 1000 pesos, maybe 1500 if there's still one more shot in the cannon, plus a teddybear and a couple of meals. That's a bargain, really, for almost 24 hours of company. We slept together last night, cuddled close. Nothing wrong with that for a lonely old man, right?

But everyone has the right to choose how to go about this. All paths to the goal are equally valid. Do it the way YOU like to do it and don't worry about others. If you don't like flirting with pretty girls online, well then, don't. If you prefer drinking and buying ladies drinks and choosing them from a bar (and paying a barfine), well then, do it. I might even consider it if I can find the time.

Titmouse

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[Puerto La Cruz]

If it floats, flies, phucks or is in the philippines, just rent it.

[IgoforAsian]

If it floats, flies, phucks or is in the philippines, just rent it.Ha-ha, I like that. I had already heard about the first three, but definitely agree with the last one too! :-)

I totally agree. Why bother with the risk of purchasing soemrthing in the Philippines when you can rent. If you have extra capital floating around, just invest it in something more secure.

[Titmouse]

This is a surprisingly clean city. People are polite and friendly. It’s safe to walk around, at least anywhere a tourist is likely to go. The mayor is famously – notoriously – tough on crime. Anti-smoking laws have come to Davao, and it is banned nearly everywhere indoors.

P4P is available but not in your face. There are lots of pretty girls around. Davao is a college town, and some students are looking for tuition money. While I was there, evening rain slowed the outdoors action, but there were some corners downtown where girls were waiting. The best clubs of the Burgos/Angeles type are Hot Legs 1, 2 and 3, with raunchy shows in the later hours. They are expensive but a friend assures me you can get phone numbers and meet girls outside working hours. There are also several bar clusters such as Club 183, Auto Shop and The Venue. I’m old – 64 – but I still got plenty of smiles. If I were 20 years younger, I would have been in hog heaven. As it was, I got my share and could have had more if the body had been willing.

I stayed at Casa Leticia on J. Camus Street just north of the Apo View. The room was clean and well-equipped but not large for a superior deluxe. Everything worked but sometimes needed some help, like the toilet that required me to hold the handle for about 30 seconds to dispose of everything and the sink stopper that had to be flipped from underneath. WiFi was available but not always in my third-floor room. It was strong and fast on the second floor and in the lobby and restaurant. A good breakfast was available and included. I had the American breakfast with eggs, toast and choice of ham, bacon or corned beef. I tried all three and they were good. The cook managed to make eggs over easy right two days out of three. Lunch and dinner menu was limited but everything I tried was good and fairly priced. Even the toasted cheese sandwich – a grilled hot dog bun that made me laugh – was tasty.

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[Titmouse]

Brenda was the first of my pre-arranged girls from DateInAsia. She was waiting for me at the airport when my flight from Davao landed at Mactan. We had lunch together at a seafood restaurant near the Lapu Lapu monument park. I remembered the restaurant from a previous visit. The food was fresh – we made our choices before going up to the third floor dining room – but the romantic view over the tide pools was somewhat spoiled because the tide was out. Our view was of mucky mud and boats and building on stilts.

Brenda was shy at first. In fact, I asked for a kiss on the cheek in the cab and she informed me she didn’t like to kiss. It had me wondering if this was going to work out. But that turned out to be an exaggeration. She was not particularly kissy, but she was certainly fucky. And, in fact, once the action got going, she kissed pretty good.

The room was cold, and she was wearing a halter top, so we watched music tv from the bed and pulled the blanket over our fully-clothed bodies. Then we snuggled to keep warm, and I nibbled her neck for something to do. Things got hot before long. It was a slow process to be sure, almost a seduction, but I didn’t mind taking my time, and Brenda never stopped me. I could have had her long before I did. I preferred to drive her crazy. I ate her (shaved except for a little fur hat) and then got the Pocket Rocket out of my kit, which sent her flying over the edge. Brenda was the first girl in my experience to begin touching herself so soon. Her fingers went right for her greedy little box. When I brought out the Rocket, she let me fumble around for a while, then took over and put it right where she wanted it.

I used a condom at first for the main event, and we went on forever. She came but I couldn’t. I pulled it off for Round 2, but finished on her stomach. And her arm and shoulder.

We went to dinner in Midtown’s restaurant, which I found overpriced. We came back and went to bed "to sleep. " It didn’t work out that way. Oh my.

On the whole, Brenda was worth the time and money. I gave her 1000 pesos, bought shampoo, photo prints, a small teddy bear, miscellaneous meals. She’s not a keeper though. For one thing, she’s going to Malaysia as soon as she gets the passport and passage worked out. Her English is pretty limited, her appreciation of my with was lacking, her head is too empty, her devotion to tv and music to all-pervading. And she was not the prettiest girl I’ve had. But, she was pretty enough to get my juices flowing, with a nice, tight figure, and once she let loose, a firecracker in bed. She wanted it as much as I did, and that was what the doctor ordered.

I don’t like the Cebu Midtown and won’t stay there again. The room was nice enough but more expensive than it’s worth, even with the breakfast buffet thrown in. The restaurant is overpriced, and Brenda’s Filipino dish had meat too tough to cut with spoon and fork. WiFi is available only in the lobby – not very private – and it cost 100 pesos per hour, compared to 35 pesos a few floors below in Robinson’s center.

Fuente Osmena is generally lacking in attractions. It’s close to the Silver Dollar and the Mango Avenue bars, and street girls are available around the circle. Just sit at McDonald’s after 9 pm and watch them stroll by. That would be the main reason for staying there. Other hotels have been recommended and I’ll try one of them next time. For a one-night layover, I should have stayed on Mactan.

As I write this, I’m in the air on the way to Clark Field and Angeles City to meet Nenita, another DIA doll. Have to drop some Vitamin C as soon as I get there. Cebu Pacific, in their collective wisdom, took off half an hour early. I guess the plane and all the passengers had checked in. No doubt my hotel pickup will be screwed up because of it.

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[Escort Fan]

I have seen a few expats in MNL that seems to lead a very happy life in the PH.

I'm considering moving there.

Is it possible to find a well paid job there for a euro guy with a business school degree?

In Europe a mid level exec gets between 40 and 70, 000 euros yearly. I wonder if such job can be obtained in Manila? They surely need qualified people to handle international sales or bizdev.

If anyone can enlight me on this matter or give me link to some job sites in MNL or some head hunters that could help me.

Thanks in advance for the infos.

[X Man]

I disagree with things that need to be disagreed with. I challenge posts that have false or overgeneralized information. I try to take myself way back to the time me when I was a newcomer in the Philippines - would this info be useful to a newcomer? Would it be misleading or confusing? I'm especially uncomfortable when people post absolute instructions or advice without giving information, nor ancedotes, to justify their opinions/advice.

The post below is another good example. I did not "attack" IGO, I disagreed with the information he provided and suggested an alternative. Disagreeing or challenging information is far different than "attacking" someone.

Anyway, I took a quick read of Igo's 28 posts on ISG, extending back one year. In the beginning he asks for advice, laters agrees with a lot of people, but doesn't seem to have any substantial field reports. This is fact, not an attack. I once again suggest that he post his own ancedotes about his experiences with Net / chat gals. Apparently he isn't reading my posts, so I hope this post reaches him indrectly.

X

Igo's post below points out an important piece of info. Chat/ net ladies may take more time (esp. pre trip). Lots of good advice is in the thread dedicated to this endeavor, and Robbaf sums up a few points that I agree with earlier in this exchange. There are also posts from people who have some negative things to say about the chat woman route.


There was no intention on my part to disparage those who choose to go after the internet girls! If you have the time and inclination, go for it!

I think if you read my post closely, I am just giving my humble opinion (maybe I should have spelled out IMHO). I was trying to share some advice for those who are perhaps planning a trip to the Phil that it is not necessary to set up a bunch of contacts before hand. Again, if you do have the time an inclination, go for it. But some of us have full time jobs and don't have much free time when preparing for a trip.

As for you X, I have long tired of the way you attack members here who make valuable contributions. Now that you have made an unprovoked attack on me, you will now have the honour of being the only member on my "ignore" list. You can therefore expect no further comment from me.

Cheers and happy pooning!

[Bob Bowie]

I have seen a few expats in MNL that seems to lead a very happy life in the PH.

I'm considering moving there.

Is it possible to find a well paid job there for a euro guy with a business school degree?

In Europe a mid level exec gets between 40 and 70, 000 euros yearly. I wonder if such job can be obtained in Manila? They surely need qualified people to handle international sales or bizdev.

If anyone can enlight me on this matter or give me link to some job sites in MNL or some head hunters that could help me.

Thanks in advance for the infos.
When you get the job, you can hire me, I will work for cheap! (cheap compared to USA wages).

Unfortunately, I think you will have a difficult time finding work, especially work that will pay decent anything close to what you would make elsewhere. I would love to find a job in the PI that paid decent and that would allow me to stay there for a year also.

I have been looking into jobs in Singapore. Figure I could work there and fly in a my GF or GFs to stay with me for a couple of weeks. Pinays can visit there for 30 days I believe. The airfare is not that much. I found it very difficult for a foreigner to find a job there, unless you have a skill that is very high demand, they are required to hire locally.

I just started to look at Hong Kong. you can fly round trip to the PI for around $100 usd on Tiger airlines.



If anyone has any good ideas of how a foreigner can find a decent paying job near the PI, I would be very happy to hear about it.

[Robbaf]

If anyone has any good ideas of how a foreigner can find a decent paying job near the PI, I would be very happy to hear about it.
It goes back to the old saying, "It's not what you know, but who you know". I am working here in the Philippines for a western salary, thanks to a visit here last year and meeting the right person. I didn't look for a job here; they called me and asked if I wanted to work here.

I have a friend who was with me in July, in a hotel lobby bar and we met an expat, and in the course of conversation, found out that he was also a contractor. From that meeting, two weeks later, my friend was offered a great job.

My point in this post is: IMHO every time you meet someone, you could be meeting someone who can change your life, so always display your best attitude and appearance.

Robb

[GoodEnough]

Most of the people I know who work here for Western salaries work for contractors, myself included. There's a lot of donor money coming into the country for everything from health care, to education, to infrastructure, agriculture, governance reform and fiscal reform. Virtually all of the programs and projects funded by donors are managed by expatriate experts, supported by local experts. Donor agencies such as Canadian CIDA, JICA (Japan), USAID, the World Bank and the Asian Development Bank award contracts to foreign contractors to manage these projects and the foreign contractors put together the technical assistance teams as part of their bids.

All of the donor agencies maintain websites that will tell you what projects/programs they're funding, what they intend to fund and which contractors have won which contracts. For guys interested in pursuing this route, it's a relatively easy matter to send CVs to contractors and those bidding for contracts to see if they're interested in including your CV in their bids.

The problem is that if you've never done this sort of work before, it can be difficult--but not impossible--to find a company willing to take a risk on someone who has never worked in the development fields.

GE

[Victorian]

Police in the Philippines say poverty appears to have driven a jobless woman to kill her three young children by giving them toilet cleaner to drink before she killed herself the same way.

Senior Superintendent Raul Sandoval said the children, aged from two to four, died before reaching hospital, while their 32-year-old mother died while being treated.

He said the woman, Janeth Ponce, left a suicide note in her one-room shack in northern Laguna province's Magdalena township.

She asked relatives to forgive her and care for her seven-year-old son who was sleeping in his grandmother's house at the time of the incident.

Police said her husband, a construction worker in Manila, had not sent money for a month.

One third of 90 million Filipinos live below the poverty line of $US1 ($A1.25) a day.

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=628135

[X Man]

Damn Robbaf, you mean I should start being nice to people? Man, you really know how to mess up my day.

X



My point in this post is: IMHO every time you meet someone, you could be meeting someone who can change your life, so always display your best attitude and appearance.

Robb

[Titmouse]

Maybe I’ll switch sides and join with the bar-hoppers. My two DIA girls didn’t work out so well. Of course, my two forays into P4P weren’t exactly sterling either. I’ve been here two days now and – to be crude – haven’t dropped a load yet, not that I haven’t had opportunities. Sigh. Age and Cialis.

I checked into the Pacific Breeze late Monday afternoon and met Nenita as planned for dinner. We ate at the hotel. Afterward, we each knocked back three B52s, plus one I knocked over and spilled on my shirt and pants. That provided an excuse to go to my room to change clothes. We wound up on the bed where I touched, fondled and explored her nooks and crannies for an hour or so. We also talked while groping, and that was my undoing. Or not, to be accurate.

Nenita is a good girl. I think she would have let me have her that night if I had pressed – she was certainly turned on enough – but I didn’t try to go that last step. I would have had to lie and hurt her, and she was really too nice. I would also, to be honest, have had to spend the next couple of days with her. Nah. She was pretty but nowhere near as pretty as girls that are common here. So I feigned nobility and sent her home, unpenetrated if not untouched. It was late by then and – after Brenda – I was more in need of rest than root, so I went to bed.

Tuesday morning, I took a long, hard walk out Fields Avenue and Perimeter Road, taking the opportunity to relocate Nifty’s and Rio, two BJ clubs. (They’re down a side street – Garfield’s is on the corner.) Then I dropped of laundry – more than 4 kilos for 140 pesos – and went back to the hotel for a shower, lunch and some online time.

In early afternoon, I sauntered down Sanchez Street – Blow Row – and collected Marie from one of the bars. They’re still there despite the encroaching new developments. Marie said she was 19 at first but later admitted to 18. I considered using the bar’s short-time room but opted for air-conditioning instead of fan. The price was the same – 700 pesos.

Marie was willing but not expert enough to wring a bullet from my aging pistol from the BJ that was my goal. Not even with some expert coaching. So I dragged on a condom and tried it the old-fashioned way. No luck. I really don’t like condoms, not even super thin Durex. Marie was worried that I would tell her mamasan that she hadn’t made me come. It really wasn’t her fault, though. I was reasonably content and there was still the night to come. So to speak.

In late afternoon, I called Dhylyn, another girl from DIA, and we agreed to meet for dinner at Margarita Station. When she showed, 15 minutes late, she wasn’t as pretty as I hoped, and she had a pudgy roll around her middle when she sat. I knew I wasn’t going to keep her.

But, in truth, I liked Dhylyn. She is open, frank, easy to talk to. We established over dinner that she wasn’t coming back to my room. (Drat.) Toward the end of our conversation, I told her that I had been a good boy for two days – technically true – and was going to be a bad boy that night. She accepted that easily. I sent her home, paying for the ride.

Time for a bar crawl – about time, some would say. I started out around 9 p. M. , trolled down Fields almost to MacArthur and back, checking the strolling players. I could have caught a fish had I wanted to. The rain had let up, and Fields was a pretty as it gets. I went into La Pasha to ask after a mamasan that is a friend of my wingman from the last trip to Thailand and Cambodia. But she was not working Tuesday night. There were, however, several cute dancers and waitresses. Three of the latter hung out at my table and let me know they were available, too. Two of the dancers were also trying to hook me. I was tempted, but what kind of a bar crawl is a one-bar night?

I left and walked down Fields again, saw the Bed Rock and remembered someone had praised it. I went in and got another beer. A dancer on the stool across my little table with cute little braces was interesting and interested, but she had to leave for pole duty before we could strike up a conversation. We exchanged smiles while she "danced", even over the shoulder of a dancer who had just come down and whom the mamasan placed in front of me. Facing me.

She was cute and, after a while, I offered to buy her a drink if it was a real one. She had a tequila shooter. The waitress asked me if I would like a body shot. I’d heard of it but wasn’t clear on the concept. She explained that I would put lime and salt on the girl’s nipples, knock back my shot, and chase it by sucking the girl’s tits. Well, why not? Shy little me in the big city.

The girl – Lyn – unfastened her bra in front of god and country and let me apply lime and salt to her prominent brown nipples. Tossing the tequila, I cleaned them thoroughly, but had to come up for air eventually. We had another drink and I paid her barfine – 1350 pesos. Lyn had been working the bar for two weeks and I was her first barfine.

That seemed like a good idea at the time, but in restrospect was not. I want experience, not an amateur. Lyn, for example, had never had a lollipop in her mouth. When she refused even to try, I told her to get dressed and we’d go back to the bar. That changed her mind, but she wasn’t up to the task. She bobbed a few times, gagged, asked for water. I convinced her to watch a video that I "just happened to have along" with point-of-view pole gobbling, and she watched it carefully while I cuddled her from behind and let my hands roam. But when she tried again later, there was no great improvement.

When I gave up and rolled her onto her back, I found she was teeny-tiny. Her own juices and some Astroglide finally got me in, but it took at least a long minute for full penetration. She kept her legs too low, which made it hard to get in. Finally, the bolt went home. We both romped for a very long time but – again – I couldn’t unload the gun.

We slept for a few hours and woke again around 5 am for another session. She was juicy and willing. We bonked and bonked and bonked, but once again I couldn’t get to the finish line. If you’re tired of hearing this, imagine how I felt. But I can’t really complain much because it was lots of fun. If I came it would be over, whereas I usually last a long time before giving up. Still, I don’t want to build a mental block where I’m watching over my own shoulder and wondering if I’ll be able to do it THIS time.

Lyn left at 7 a. M. She had originally promised noon but her mamasan reminded her that she had to report for health check at 9. In the bar the previous night, I had barely had enough to cover the bill and barfine. Now I realized that I had nothing but large bills. I wasn’t going to give her a 500-peso tip. I gave her my sole 20-p note and a 5-dollar bill. She wasn’t very happy but neither was I.

Sitting in the Pacific Breeze restaurant writing this, I can’t help but notice that there are several fat, ugly men with pretty ladies here. Why am I alone and scribbling?

Tonight I’ll go back to La Pasha to try to connect with the mamasan again. And maybe take one of those dancers.

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[Titmouse]

Correction: Blow Row in Angeles City is A. Santos Street, not Sanchez.

I knew that, really I did.

'Mouse

[X Man]

Sanchez was the girl's name!

Great post Tmouse. Don't worry about cumming....just keep getting the stinky on your dinky -- that's what counts!

Despite what others have said at ISG, I find the Cialis to be effective (for the woody, not the cumming). Figure about 300 pesos per 4 tab box.

Your post suggests you've already found some chemical enhancement, but thought I would clarify.

X


Correction: Blow Row in Angeles City is A. Santos Street, not Sanchez.

I knew that, really I did.

'Mouse

[Robbaf]

You must be married to a Filipina if...

(Written by an American guy who loves his Filipina wife despite "irregularities")

Your refrigerator is always full but you cannot find any food that you recognize.
Most of the decorations in your house are made of wicker.
You are expected to be able to read her mind just by watching her eyebrows move up and down and which way her lips are pointed.
The instant you are married you have 3000 new close relatives that you can't tell apart.
All the desserts are sticky and all the snacks are salty.
Even the ketchup [catsup (Jufran) ] tastes weird.
You throw a party and everyone is fighting to chop the leathery skin off a dead pig.
Your in-laws take 10 years to acknowledge your existence and to call you by something other than "that white guy."
Your first Christmas present is some funny-looking, baggy see-through shirt made out of leftover lace doilies.
Your phone bills are all international and average 3 hours per call.
The rice cooker is on 24/7 and uses up 50% of your electric and food budget.
On your first trip to the Philippines, you have 18 giant boxes that weigh 1000 pounds each and your "carry-on" luggage requires a small forklift truck.
All your postage bills instantly double.
Her favorite sauce is called patis. Americans call it turpentine.
You were married five years before she explained to you that "Aray" doesn't mean "Ooh, baby!"
Her homeland has more megamalls than islands.
Your kitchen table has a merry-go-round in the middle.
Her friends are named Chinky, Baby, Boy, and Bimbo and you're not allowed to smirk.
All your place settings are backwards and there are no spoons.
She's done her best job planning a surprise party for you if she manages not to tell you about it until a week or two before.

AND LAST BUT NOT LEAST: You are pretty proud of yourself because you think you snagged up for yourself some unique, rare, tropical goddess until you go to the Philippines and can't tell her apart from anyone else in the whole country (unless she's taller than 5'1". Then it's a bit easier).

[Puerto La Cruz]

You forgot to mention the names, Jinky, Baby, Pinky and of course Ma ........

[Darth Sushi]

You must be married to a Filipina if...
Her friends are named Chinky, Baby, Boy, and Bimbo and you're not allowed to smirk.
...
LOL, You forgot Trixie, Itchy, and Gimme!

[Cunning Stunt]

Robbaf - :D brilliant and funny surmise of all the oddities and peculiarities that go with being in a long term relationship with a Pinay.

Met a Pixie the other day - had to firmly control my twitching bottom lip. About lips, isn't it odd how they use their lips as a pointing device - never known any other nationality that does that.

When I first saw a picture of myself in one of those weird see through shirts that they love and insist we wear on special occasions, I wanted to burn all evidence of how daft I looked ;). The sando/t-shirt you have to wear underneath just seems to heighten the comic effect.

But we still love 'em in spite and probably because of their eccentricities.

P.S - One thing I don't love is the way they don't have the first idea about basic food hygiene. They will cook a dish in the morning, leave it out in the tropical sun for a party that night and then expect you to eat it as they do it without any ill effect. I would advise anyone invited to a barangay party to use extreme prejudice where any food is concerned. GH

[GoodEnough]

I was told by a Pinoy friend that it was the Spanish who mandated that the barongs be see through so that rebellious Filipinos could not canceal weapons underneath the shirts. I used to feel silly wearing these, but now have a small wardrobe of them, ever since I realized that they beat the alternative of wearing a tie and jacket to formal and semi-formal affairs when you have to go. I would rather look (and feel) slightly foolish than sweat my balls off in a suit.

Speaking of cultural or perhaps genetic oddities, has anyone else ever noticed how much a 40 kg. filipina can eat? It is amazing to me. I took three small women from my office out for lunch last week, and the sheer quantity of food consumed was astounding. I'm twice their size and I could not begin to eat the amount to which these ladies laid waste. And what's even more amazing is that two hours latter these ladies were all having their afternoon merienda! Maybe it has something to do with metabolism or maybe they're screwing their brains out all night and burning up the calories.

GE

[Cunning Stunt]

I was told by a Pinoy friend that it was the Spanish who mandated that the barongs be see through so that rebellious Filipinos could not canceal weapons underneath the shirts.

GE


In that case why don't they wear see through pants as well? Sorry GE, I am being facetious (again :D).

Maybe in secret the are a nation of bulemics and hasten to the CR after every splurge. Although not all as you see many chubby if not downright fat Pinays hoiking their bulk around. Even on many otherwise slim Filipina's you will often see a telltale spare tire (heightened by the tight top they like to wear) which I like to call their 'Jollibee tum'. GH

[Robbaf]

Even on many otherwise slim Filipina's you will often see a telltale spare tire (heightened by the tight top they like to wear) which I like to call their 'Jollibee tum'. GH
I always tease the ladies by telling them that they aren't fat, they are just filipina rice burners, just like a Japanese car:D They are just saving some rice for hard times:D

Robb

[X Man]

You might want to get a doctor to look at that.



....my twitching bottom lip. About lips, ...
snip///
GH

[X Man]

Robbaf, you have me worried.

Do they get the joke?

Well, Philipinos love to tease, so why not.

But there was a lady at Black Hole, Cebu city who had the most enourmous bum cheeks I'd ever seen on a woman who was not of African descent. I mentioned the same thing to the gal sitting next to me, and she quickly warned, "Don't say anything about that to her!"

X


I always tease the ladies by telling them that they aren't fat, they are just filipina rice burners, just like a Japanese car:D They are just saving some rice for hard times:D

Robb

[Titmouse]

thursday night i went back on the prowl. after some wandering around, i went back to la pasha and connected with mama annie, my friend’s friend. we chatted and i bought her a drink. it was around 9 p. m. and neither of the girls i’d been eyeing the night before were there. annie said the best time is about 7:30, when the full shift is present but few if any have been barfined yet.

i left and wandered into several places – king of diamonds, next to mo’s, the dollhouse, and others i can’t remember. one was a smaller bar on a side street in the central area, adjacent to checkers. there was one doable girl, drinks were 65 pesos and the barfine was only 1250 compared to the 1350 quoted elsewhere, but i wasn’t quite ready to make a choice. i trolled back down fields, turned down santos, and then onto the short street (real? ) that parallels fields back toward raymond. i went into a smaller bar whose name i forget.

more fun was being had in that bar than any i visited during the trip. rock and roll was playing, customers were singing, the bell had been rung, dancers were laughing, good times were rolling. i joined one guy singing into a microphone to the rolling stones ‘you can’t always get what you want, " belting out high harmony on the choruses.

two of the dancers were especially cute, but i wound up talking to mari lyn, a 32-year-old gro. she admitted to the age easily, and i told her she was still half mine. i bought her a drink to be polite and, after a while, i didn’t feel comfortable calling down one of the girls and bumping her. i paid her barfine (1300 p) and we strolled the short distance to pacific breeze.

lyn was the first girl who pretty much insisted on hitting the minibar, which i usually leave alone. i get hung up on small things sometimes, but i had to laugh when i checked prices and realized that, at 50 pesos, the beers in the room were cheaper than most happy hour prices. we drank a beer each and split a third while chatting and exchanging friendly kisses. then we took a shower together and rolled into bed.

lyn was an easy and generous lover. she had an unusual manner of giving head, coming down from the top instead of crawling between my legs. from that angle, she took me deeper than anyone in recent memory. after i returned the favor, we rolled together and did the deed. we had a sleepy, sweet return match in the morning, then showered and had breakfast together.

we had planned to spend more time together, but i had developed a minor sore throat. lyn walked me to a pharmacy and ordered pills and throat lozenges for me. then i put her in a trike and said goodbye. i went back to the hotel and slept for several hours, skipping lunch. i used pb’s excellent internet connection to read mail and get some business done. i had dinner – a not-bad spaghetti carbonara – in the hotel restaurant and headed out to make la pasha at 7:30, hoping to find the girl i had wanted to take two days before.

i didn’t find her, so maybe she was on a long term barfine. i couldn’t remember her exactly, but recognized another girl from the previous night. she was hard to miss. she had been the liveliest girl in the place and was again. she was full of smiles, dancing, laughing, joking with the other girls, having a good time. on wednesday, she had been doubly obvious because she was one of the few girls i have seen wearing black-frame glasses on stage. this night she had left the glasses off but there was no mistaking her personality. she was very pretty, just short of beautiful. she flirted with me each time she came around. i was tempted for a while by another girl who was frowning until i smiled at her, then lit up in a very enticing way. but i called down glasses-girl, and it was one of the best picks i’ve ever made.

her name was loures (pronounced la-rees), a 19-year-old from samar who had just come back from manila where she had been tending an aging grandmother. at first, i thought i might have made a mistake, as she was quieter sitting next to me than she had been on stage and spent more time watching the big screen that was showing porn cartoons. on the other hand, she nudged me several times to watch what was going on, giving me an impish grin. gradually, she warmed up. feeling a bit uncertain, i asked her if she really wanted to come with me. she said yes.

loures went to change while i paid the bill and barfine (1350 pesos). she emerged wearing a sleeveless orange minidress. unlike many girls, she looked better in street clothes than she had on stage. leaving la pasha, we walked across the street to a bar to have a drink. after watching a while, i joked to loures about the lackluster dancers and said she should show them how it was done. i was mostly teasing while complimenting her dancing. she said she didn’t like the music they were playing.

but about halfway through our drinks, a song started that she loures obviously knew from the opening bars. to my surprise, she hopped onto the stage and began dancing provocatively to "shake your ass. " and, boy, did she! her dress snugged her bottom, and her butt-wagging and grinding was hot as hell. she wasn’t just twice as good as the other dancers, she was in a different league. she shook her tight little tush better than she had at la pasha, where she was already the best of the crop. she gave me a major boner.

we finished our drinks when she climbed down and headed for the hotel. loures had a jekyll-and-hyde manner that kept throwing me off balance. she’d be close and then a little distant. i read it as her not being that enthusiastic about me. at first, i couldn’t get a kiss out of her except for a baby pucker. but then she kissed me full on and freely. usually, i like to romp on the bed for a while before getting down to business, but loures had other plans. "shower, " she said. after that, we climbed onto the bed, and loures still wasn’t interested in preliminaries. "i’m horney, " she announced after a short bit of mutual groping. she rolled me onto my back, propped two pillows under my head, peeled and applied a condom and climbed aboard.

and that began one of the most enjoyable bouts of my life. loures came the first time after less than five minutes of pole dancing. after a couple of minutes, she came again. and then she came again. and again. i lost count after 10. i think it was 12-15 times during nearly an hour and a half of straight out bonk, all but a couple of them in cowgirl position – grind, pump, grind, whee! she was so fucking hot it was unbelievable. for me, i was glad for once that i couldn’t come, otherwise i might have popped and stopped. by the time we collapsed in exhaustion, we were both drenched in sweat despite the air conditioning and limp enough to melt.

i had to get up early for my flight to bangkok and udon thani, but we managed to wake in time for one more abbreviated round. our hearts were not in it. loures declined any manual, lingual or vibratory assistance. she rolled on a condom and got herself off, but only once this time. still an all-time record and personal best. she left, i finished packing and headed for manila at 6 a. m. for a 10: 30 pal flight to bangkok.

angeles city and pacific breeze

four days just isn’t enough for angeles city, but more than a week might get old. there isn’t much to do except drink and dip, which is its biggest problem. there aren’t many good restaurants, but there’s enough variety for a short vacation. i haven’t seen a bookstore, although i pack enough of my own reading material.

as for breeding material, angeles falls short of the incredible scope of pattaya, but there’s plenty to go around, at least in mid-september. every bar i visited had at least one quality candidate, and the bigger bars offered multiple choices. i wonder if a good procedure might be to arrive early in the evening, make a pick and barfine her, but arrange to collect her around 10 or 11 p. m. having a drinking buddy would be nice, whether you roam with or without company of the female type.

to belabor the obvious, a lot of the fun lies in availability. even a creaky old hulk like me collects plenty of smiles. catch an eye, exchange glances, get a grin, and wave one down for a drink. some won’t be interested but plenty will be. and don’t forget the waitresses. they’re usually available, too, and it’s easy to strike up a conversation without commitment. watch out for girls with a red v on their badge, indicating a cherry girl. not that i saw any.

when you call a girl down from the stage, she may have limited english and not much to talk about. many are young and inexperienced, both in the world and in bed. the waitresses are often slightly older and have spent more time talking to tourists. a baby or two may be expected, but attitude and gratitude are not be scorned.

the pacific breeze is a good hotel. my only complaints are minor – no shampoo, for example – but the attitude and environment are great. the only time i didn’t walk a girl to the door, the desk called to check. the staff is also generally pretty, even very pretty. one of the waitresses in the restaurant was one of the prettiest girls i saw in angeles, and two of the desk clerks were nearly stunning. the pool was inviting although i never accepted the invitation. in previous visits, i stayed most often at the orchid inn, and the pb compares favorably.

note: since the action moves to thailand now, i'll be continuing this trip report in that section of the board.

note 2: admin keeps suggesting this become a report of distinction, which is flattering, but not something i'm likely to award myself. perhaps at the end it might be possible to link them all together by reference. is that possible?

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[X Man]

I'm not going to recommend you for a post of distinction. I'm going to recommend that Jackson start a publishing company and have you write stories / books.

Another great post.

X

[Doubleflush]

I'm going to be in Shenzhen and Shanghai next week and I have been trying to get information from the mongers in the China thread about KTV or other bars that are frequented by FILIPINAS. I know they exist but I cannot find any information on them.

If anyone has information about the establishments in Shenzhen and Shanghai that are frequented by Filipina's or can lead me to the information, I would really appreciate it.

Thx,

DF

[Dumpy]

Hi,

Silly question but rather save than sorry, is one allowed to travel on flights having cialis in your possesion without a prescription. I would appreciate if anyone can advise.

[Cunning Stunt]

Hi,

Silly question but rather save than sorry, is one allowed to travel on flights having cialis in your possesion without a prescription. I would appreciate if anyone can advise.

If you are leaving the Philippines with locally bought cialis, I would suggest that you pack in your hold baggage. I was stopped at Clark last year by one of the security checkers who spotted a few tabs in my carry on bag and although he let me through, the twat made quite a vocal fuss about it, which was a little embarassing (particularly as I was accompanied by my teenage son) :(. GH

[Devilspinkick]

Hello guys,

I'm new to the board but have traveled to many parts of the world. For leisure I like to chase women and I hit the local healthclubs. I've never been to the Philippines but am planning to go for the first time next February.

Anyway - I was wondering if AC has any good places to workout like Gold's, CaliforniaWOW X, Cali. Fitness, or any place where I can pump up after playing with the chicas.

Thanks - DSK

[X Man]

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[Jazzy Daddy]

There is 1 just south of the corner of Fields and MacArthur, it's 100 meters down the rd on the 2nd floor. Just ask someone on the street to point it out. No Air Conditioner and minimal stuff but it works OK just to keep muscles exercised.


Hello guys,

I'm new to the board but have traveled to many parts of the world. For leisure I like to chase women and I hit the local healthclubs. I've never been to the Philippines but am planning to go for the first time next February.

Anyway - I was wondering if AC has any good places to workout like Gold's, CaliforniaWOW X, Cali. Fitness, or any place where I can pump up after playing with the chicas.

Thanks - DSK