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Sharka
08-16-09, 06:05
I was in Cebu off and on for about 2 weeks in June early July. Cebu is still good.



Thanks,
For the Jonq. girls, I understand even for short time they will often go with you for up to 2 hrs or more?. So is there a certain time limit they can go with you ST for say 1 or even 2 shots or is it strictly one shot only and when that happens they are gone?

Rampana
08-16-09, 22:33
Thanks,

For the Jonq. girls, I understand even for short time they will often go with you for up to 2 hrs or more?. So is there a certain time limit they can go with you ST for say 1 or even 2 shots or is it strictly one shot only and when that happens they are gone?I have bad experience with ALL of these Junquerea girl. Although ST 3 hrs was agreed beforehand, ALL of them, w/o exception, wanted to leave after 1 shot, even going into hassle with me about that.

One girl wanted to leave after after 45 minutes, promised to come back when Mamasan was asleep, but didnt. She even left her panty in my room.

2 days later she came back, but wanted another 700 for 2 hrs. I declined her.

Another one gave no service at all. She did not speak any good English and I hink she was on drugs.

I sent her away.

Gunga Din
08-17-09, 03:42
Hello everyone,

I'm in Cebu until Thursday Aug 20, and I usually post in the ISG Malaysia Sabah forum, so "Hello" to all local Cebu brothers and Cebu visitors.

My first time here in Cebu City has been quite wonderful. Cebu is full of sweet and nice people, with numerous opportunities for finding women. Up to now I've stayed in the safe range by visiting the expensive bars: Vikings, BGs, Hot Rod, and - of course - Jaguar. The experience is helping me streamline my "interview" process with the ladies, and will help tremendously on my next trip here at the end of the year.

Usually I would field report my experience but since I don't live here I imagine I'm making all kinds of mistakes (including over-paying) that local brothers would simply laugh at. And I wouldn't blame them! So, I need to learn more before I write. But I do want to say that I really like Cebu, I'll be back, and I will keep on reading all your reports to gain further knowledge for my return.

All the best,

-Gunga Din (ISG: Malaysia, Sabah thread)

Jimmy Red Cab
08-19-09, 11:42
I am considering visiting Cebu for the first time in early October but have no idea what area to stay.
I want to be near the "bar area" ----- if there is such an area, need a girl friendly hotel in the price range of $60 or 3000 pesos.

I have only visited Angeles City and Manila, a year ago.

Cansx
08-19-09, 13:18
I am considering visiting Cebu for the first time in early October but have no idea what area to stay.

I want to be near the "bar area" ----- if there is such an area, need a girl friendly hotel in the price range of $60 or 3000 pesos.

I have only visited Angeles City and Manila, a year ago.Try Eddies Hotel or the Richmond very close to Mango bars.

Amavida
08-19-09, 15:22
A Phils newbie is headed for Cebu in 3 weeks and yes I have RTFF.

Question/Advice:

Is there a take out bar/club like LA Cafe in Cebu City or close by?

I'm just not too high on Bikini Bars, Mamasans, Barfines Etc. Like to deal direct.

Thanks to All.Then just go hang out in the shopping malls, they will come to you..

AV

Amavida
08-19-09, 15:30
What is the "hit-rate" on DIA ?
It varies wildly from visit to visit. You can never really tell until you meet the girls face to face. Some guys are very up front about expecting horizontal conversation with little commitment, other guys like to play along at being a potential husband then giving them the flick later. Either way you will get sex.

You can wast a lot of time chatting with these ladies without any result. By result I mean actual meeting and having sex with them.Agreed but it can be fun educating yourself about them in the process. Just dont waste too much time on them. It far easier finding & getting laid once you are here.

AV

Sammon
08-19-09, 18:26
A Phils newbie is headed for Cebu in 3 weeks and yes I have RTFF.

Question/Advice:

Is there a take out bar/club like LA Cafe in Cebu City or close by?

I'm just not too high on Bikini Bars, Mamasans, Barfines Etc. Like to deal direct.

Thanks to All.

I have had offers from almost every girl who massaged me at the massage parlor in the malls. assage is legitimate but after small talk they said if I want company later they would come to my hotel. Some came right out and said they have a kid to support with no husband and really need the money. Not all are good looking but I get the idea they want to make some extra money. I guess yoiu can ask them also and if they are not game they will introduce one of their friends. I did not accept because i was staying with my steady GF at that time.

FreebieFan
08-21-09, 02:11
What is the "hit-rate" on DIA ?

You can wast a lot of time chatting with these ladies without any result. By result I mean actual meeting and having sex with them.For those that I finally and actually to get to meet Id say Im hitting about 95%. However I dont meet that many and thru chat and innunendo and half stated interests we get to sort the wheat form the chaff.

Very often I meet in a mall, no need for small talk, go to my car and then off to motel. Seems to work a treat with very few questions asked and no payment requested.

X Man
08-21-09, 10:32
I have averaged 40-50%. This month I met four and had one (with DIA). I have done better in the past with CB.

How do you get 95%??? I guess you are pretty good at innuendo!

You mentioned you have a car, and I do notice that guys who live in the Philippines automatically get Grade A beef stamped on their ass.

Can I be your driver sometime?

X


For those that I finally and actually to get to meet Id say Im hitting about 95%. However I dont meet that many and thru chat and innunendo and half stated interests we get to sort the wheat form the chaff.

Very often I meet in a mall, no need for small talk, go to my car and then off to motel. Seems to work a treat with very few questions asked and no payment requested.

X Man
08-21-09, 10:41
You've got some advice about massage, but I know of nothing remotely similar to LA cafe in Cebu. Bars like Lone Star, Silver Dollar, and Stars are more girl direct. Others often require talking to mama to get a girl to join you. Many have become Japanese style, with group couches....a lone guy might feel uncomfortable on the weekends when large groups of Korean / Japanese come in.

Oh, wait. Julianas, not far form the Mango / Maxilom bars is a disco which is know for a pick up place. Noisy, and crowded, ignore the bakla trying to head you off at the pass, and go inside. There is an entrance fee.

You might mention to the security guard or staff, "chicks?" and see what happens.

X




A Phils newbie is headed for Cebu in 3 weeks and yes I have RTFF.

Question/Advice:

Is there a take out bar/club like LA Cafe in Cebu City or close by?

I'm just not too high on Bikini Bars, Mamasans, Barfines Etc. Like to deal direct.

Thanks to All.

Cheapy
08-22-09, 00:11
A big thanks to all the brothers, especially X-Man and FreebieFan.

I've gathered 30 phones numbers via DIA and beginning to sort them out with
daily chat and eventially I'll Skype em' to finalize the list. Omitting the "money whiners" right away and have declined GF airport pick-up. Some seam to want to get a "lock" on you right away.

Had just a brief moment of conscience a couple of days ago and omitted all the 18 year olds. Have got at least 3 "slam dunks" on the list including a dancer from Vikings. Don't think I'll ever bat 95% but would be quite happy at 50%.

Wish me luck with the "mall interviews".

Hanny
08-22-09, 05:32
Does any body know if "Water Front Hotel,Cebu" is girl Friendly

I booked the room and other wise i have to change the hotel,

The Rooster1
08-23-09, 06:03
Hello everyone,

I'm in Cebu until Thursday Aug 20, and I usually post in the ISG Malaysia Sabah forum, so "Hello" to all local Cebu brothers and Cebu visitors.

My first time here in Cebu City has been quite wonderful. Cebu is full of sweet and nice people, with numerous opportunities for finding women. Up to now I've stayed in the safe range by visiting the expensive bars: Vikings, BGs, Hot Rod, and - of course - Jaguar. The experience is helping me streamline my "interview" process with the ladies, and will help tremendously on my next trip here at the end of the year.

Usually I would field report my experience but since I don't live here I imagine I'm making all kinds of mistakes (including over-paying) that local brothers would simply laugh at. And I wouldn't blame them! So, I need to learn more before I write. But I do want to say that I really like Cebu, I'll be back, and I will keep on reading all your reports to gain further knowledge for my return.

All the best,

-Gunga Din (ISG: Malaysia, Sabah thread)That's the only way you really learn my friend. Your not an expert your first few times out. The Vikings bar is always a good stop. Very easy to talk with and not too pushy.

The Rooster1
08-23-09, 06:18
Not a helpful thing to say to a filipino/a. Very few are adults in the sense of emotionally mature by western standards. They are "simple", as they so often call themselves in profiles, that is to say, childlike. Each thinks she is the center of the universe, or at least of your world. That's why they will text you "hello" or whatever without giving a name. "What, you don't know who I am? You must hate me!"Well said.

You are right on about there emotional traits..

Girlfinder
08-23-09, 09:54
..Is there a take out bar/club like LA Cafe in Cebu City or close by? I'm just not too high on Bikini Bars, Mamasans, Barfines Etc. Like to deal direct..
Make a try on the Pumps, a disco right beside Ayala mall. They start late, maybe 10pm is ok to go there. Here and Juliana, the key is to be in good mood, smile, talk and have fun. I have experienced good girls approach. At least, along the bar, some of the not so good one, are waiting for customers. If you are done inside, you may even approach girls and friends sitting at the tables outside. Just be fun, and they might want you to sit down.

I have taken some girls from these two places. They tend to be quite friendly and stay overnite, then they expect tip/payment if you did not already agree on that. 1000-1500 peso should be ok.

But be careful with all the LB (ladyboys) in and outsid Juliana. Some signs of that is big hands, big feet, and deep voice (pretending couching to hide).

If you are into it, dont forget to ask the drivers about where to find SW or houses. But I would avoid gate 3 / vanilla. And do never let the driver pay the girl or the pimps, they take a huge cut. I pay directly to the girls (and I even let the girls pay her pimp) and have avoided a lot of trouble. SW price 500-700 for ST, just you tell them that you know this is the going price, not the 1500 they ask you if you are a foreigner.

Happy hunting.

Nolz7
08-24-09, 12:36
I've been to this place. The sound was too loud! Younger crowd.

Would prefer to go to mango bars.

Starchild2012
08-24-09, 12:45
I agree with the below posts, Pump disco is good, try also Paseo and sunflower, give a round trip to all these places and you should hook up with girls pretty easily.

The KEY is you should know how to dance, it doesn't matter if you hip hop and turn around on your head :D...just shake that thing, don't be shy.

You can only get girls most of the time, when you shake it, just simply sitting and drinking beer and watching girls wont bring her to you.

If she makes an eye contact, she is for your taking, after a while, she will go to the dance floor for sure, you need to follow her, dance around her and slowly go closer to her and smile etc and make your move.

To know, if she is with someone or waiting for her bf, if she stands up and dance with her girl friends, know that she is for taking.

The whole fun thing of hunting girls down in places like these, its addictive, but go with a friend or a local Filipino or even tag the taxi cab dude if he is young for the first time, if you have none, cos, it would be near impossible or you would be a born playboy to just go alone and pick girls around..it is possible, but reality is the first time, would overwhelm you and you need to come to your seat to get your energy back and get out of embarrassing moment sometimes, wait for the next hunt etc.

Know that Korean girls will only come to you if they really really like you, so don't waste your energy on them at first and get disappointed, cos the easiest way is to hunt down Filipina girls, cos they are very friendly and approaching never threatening in anyway.

If you in Manila, you can check padis point in malate and also Nirvana bar for pick up, pretty much all dance clubs are for the taking here.

To get rid of shyness and dance with courage i use the age old technique of alcohol :) it should get you going.

I dont think money is needed unless she is a hooker and the longer you stay here in PH, you would easily make up if she is a hooker in club or a regular girl...but still you can be a gentleman pay for her taxi or buy her dinner etc. Its all cool here no worries as long as you have money.

Starchild2012
08-24-09, 12:51
Does any body know if "Water Front Hotel,Cebu" is girl Friendly

I booked the room and other wise i have to change the hotel,

yes it is girl friendly..no worries..all hotels in Cebu are GF'dly

Fast Eddie 48
08-25-09, 05:24
Does any body know if "Water Front Hotel,Cebu" is girl Friendly

I booked the room and other wise i have to change the hotel,Hanny,

Oh yes I pick up a casino waitress at the hotel, very GFE give her my room number and she call me after work .

Fast eddie 48

X Man
08-25-09, 12:48
Thanks for adding that BL. It's such an obvious thing I didn't think to mention it, but, yes, you have to dance to have fun / meet people in these places.

BL recommends take a friend, but many barfines would be happy to go with you. That might be a way to introduce yourself to the place, but you might run into the problem I had...

I was at Sunflower (weekday) with a HotRod barfine. Her dancing was a bit of the slinky, make-love-to-herself dance, which was a bit weird. Half the time she wasn't keeping to the beat. I was having a blast nevertheless.

Sunflower: large place with good live bands, DJ in between sets, laser lights, fake fog. It has a second deck overlooking the band, but this area is usually closed on weekdays. Entrance is 150 (gets you two drinks). Tables are set perpendicular to the stage with red naugahyde benches (sofas???) on each side -- neither tables, nor benches can be moved. These rows are eight deep. The waiters are pretty good about roaming around and on my last visit the beers were cold. The toilet is in the back and this is where bakla sometimes hang out.

Okay, back to my story... I was dancing with a petite HR barfine with almost 100% certainty that she would be with me all night (she was). There was a pair of young ladies dancing together and I never saw anyone hit on them, and they never danced with anyone but themselves. One of them was very cute and she kept looking my way. We made contact and exchanged smiles several times on the dance floor. What's a guy to do?

My date and I were seated in the 4th row and customers thinned out considerably about the 5th row back from the stage (weekday - not weekend!). The two ladies were sitting about the 6th or 7th row, which would make conversation fairly easy -- 'cept I have a date already. My date is cute, but she has an expiration date...like sometime after sunrise. And I almost always prefer the challenge of a hunt.

I kept looking for a chance to drop my card on her table or while passing her on the way to the toilet. Unfortunately that chance never came.

The moral of the story is that love can be found at sunflower -- especially if you can dance the dance. Oh, get ready for a lot of Black Eyed Peas. One of the members was born in Philippines, so they are really popular there.

Anyway, sorry for the overly long story about the big fish that got away.

X


I agree with the below posts, Pump disco is good, try also Paseo and sunflower, give a round trip to all these places and you should hook up with girls pretty easily.

The KEY is you should know how to dance, it doesn't matter if you hip hop and turn around on your head :D...just shake that thing, don't be shy.

You can only get girls most of the time, when you shake it, just simply sitting and drinking beer and watching girls wont bring her to you.

If she makes an eye contact, she is for your taking, after a while, she will go to the dance floor for sure, you need to follow her, dance around her and slowly go closer to her and smile etc and make your move.

To know, if she is with someone or waiting for her bf, if she stands up and dance with her girl friends, know that she is for taking.

The whole fun thing of hunting girls down in places like these, its addictive, but go with a friend or a local Filipino or even tag the taxi cab dude if he is young for the first time, if you have none, cos, it would be near impossible or you would be a born playboy to just go alone and pick girls around..it is possible, but reality is the first time, would overwhelm you and you need to come to your seat to get your energy back and get out of embarrassing moment sometimes, wait for the next hunt etc.

Know that Korean girls will only come to you if they really really like you, so don't waste your energy on them at first and get disappointed, cos the easiest way is to hunt down Filipina girls, cos they are very friendly and approaching never threatening in anyway.

If you in Manila, you can check padis point in malate and also Nirvana bar for pick up, pretty much all dance clubs are for the taking here.

To get rid of shyness and dance with courage i use the age old technique of alcohol :) it should get you going.

I dont think money is needed unless she is a hooker and the longer you stay here in PH, you would easily make up if she is a hooker in club or a regular girl...but still you can be a gentleman pay for her taxi or buy her dinner etc. Its all cool here no worries as long as you have money.

Starchild2012
08-25-09, 15:50
I was at Sunflower (weekday) with a HotRod barfine. Her dancing was a bit of the slinky, make-love-to-herself dance, which was a bit weird. Half the time she wasn't keeping to the beat. I was having a blast nevertheless.

X

X'man, I had a similar problem last year in sunflower but i was with friends, i just could not pass on the message to the girls, it was my earliest hunt, but with four or five drinks and having gotten drunk, new ideas came by which were kinda old but i became brave. :)

I passed the message to the waiter that im interested to talk to the girl and if it is ok with her, i could get her mobile number.

The waiter went to and forth and passed the message, like she is busy, may be next time etc, but i did manage to get numbers on other occasions from girls there but they were semi pro..now with more experience i apply the direct dance approach.

The only problem in Cebu is its a small place and you have a real danger of meeting the same girls many times over in the same place if one lives in for some months unless off course he takes breaks and gets out of cebu.

Thats the reason i moved to manila once i thought of going with regular girls, but i still like cebu very much and would move in back hopefully.

X Man
08-26-09, 07:11
I tried to describe the layout of Sunflower in an earlier post. Better yet, see it on YouTube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pTXQDQQv8z0&feature=related

X

Hanny
08-26-09, 07:41
Thanks to Born Loser 5 and Fast Eddie 48 (you picked up waitress at W. F.? You are the MAN! )

I founded out all. And I really want to share with you guys.

Water Front is giving rooms for 3.200 peso which is $66 not over $200 as on their hotel web site. Also, after 10PM if you bring the girl. They will charge $17 (these includes buffet breakfast)

I am also, going to Famous " Shangri-La's Mactan Resort & Spa" and they have a such thing as Local Price and it starts from $134, so tell your girls to make a reservations otherwise ending up paying non- local price which is over $200!

And please some one share more action info on this CEBU sites?

The Rooster1
08-26-09, 08:35
Just a heads up. I went to Sunflower last week on a Friday night with a regular girl and was denied entrance unless I bought a pair of 400 pesos socks. We were dressed very nice, and I just had on flipflops. I wasn't too worried about the 400 peso's, but I'm not wearing socks with flip flops. So we went to Juliana and had a great time as always. Will wear my regular shoes with socks next time.

Happy Hunting!

Yella Man
08-27-09, 03:32
Just a heads up. I went to Sunflower last week on a Friday night with a regular girl and was denied entrance unless I bought a pair of 400 pesos socks. We were dressed very nice, and I just had on flipflops. I wasn't too worried about the 400 peso's, but I'm not wearing socks with flip flops. So we went to Juliana and had a great time as always. Will wear my regular shoes with socks next time.

Happy Hunting!Wearing flipflops out to a disco or dance club is like wiping your ass before you shit! It's just wrong Rooster, but very funny! I'd like to see you dance in them on a crowded dance floor. That would be priceless!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella Man

The Rooster1
08-27-09, 04:05
Wearing flipflops out to a disco or dance club is like wiping your ass before you shit! It's just wrong Rooster...but very funny! I'd like to see you dance in them on a crowded dance floor. That would be priceless!

Still Skinning Them Up!

Yella ManI hear what your saying. But I have no issues hitting the floor with flip-flops and have always been told I dance extremely well by the filipina's, or any girls for that matter. I go by their judgement since thats why I'm there. That's why I live in the PI. Sometimes I feel like wearing flip-flops and know one there gives a shit.

Peace out!

Mr Durex
08-27-09, 05:24
Hi guys,

I need to ask you all a favor.

I need to go cebu soon and need some hotel recommendations from you.

Looking for low to midrange hotel, just need a clean room with aircon.

Thanks in advance

X Man
08-27-09, 08:32
What is the name of the hotel across from Holiday Plaza? Less than 1k, but I can't remember the name. Great location.

The so called pensions around Fuente Osmena also have cheap rooms. Sorry, I probably don't have names and phone numbers. If you are still looking and still need info, please ask again. I'll assume others can give info about low end rooms.

X


Hi guys,

I need to ask you all a favor.

I need to go cebu soon and need some hotel recommendations from you.

Looking for low to midrange hotel, just need a clean room with aircon.

Thanks in advance

X Man
08-27-09, 08:40
Mr Durex, what is your budget?


Kan Irag Hotel 253 1151 (-57) under 1000 kanhotel@pop.cebu.pw.net.ph

Starchild2012
08-27-09, 12:38
Hi guys,

I need to ask you all a favor.

I need to go cebu soon and need some hotel recommendations from you.

Looking for low to midrange hotel, just need a clean room with aircon.

Thanks in advance


Try Asia Hotel mid range price and close to all actions.

Starchild2012
08-27-09, 12:42
Just a heads up. I went to Sunflower last week on a Friday night with a regular girl and was denied entrance unless I bought a pair of 400 pesos socks. We were dressed very nice, and I just had on flipflops. I wasn't too worried about the 400 peso's, but I'm not wearing socks with flip flops. So we went to Juliana and had a great time as always. Will wear my regular shoes with socks next time.

Happy Hunting!

You can buy socks for 50 pesos, just adjacent to the sunflower entrance where you pay the entrance fee, their is a girl who sells it and also keeps your belonging for security for a minimal fee. you dont have to go out of sunflower disco, may be the price has increased by last time it was only 50 pesos.

Starchild2012
08-27-09, 12:48
And please some one share more action info on this CEBU sites?

Dont forget to visit all mango square bars and then also must go to Jaguar and Arena KTV bars, then go to Paseo disco to see how Filipinos enjoy on weekends, then go to pumps and sunflower to see how Koreans shake that thing.

Visit SM, Ayala and Robinson mall, try to go to bohol beach, if you have time.

if you visit these 9 or 10 places you will get a clear idea of how things work in Cebu and on its way, you would have taken more girls than you could imagine.

Dont forget to also have some regular girls dating from sites such as dateinasia and also filipinaheart.com, you will have more girls to keep you busy than you could possibly handle, still it is a good thing :)

Good Luck

X Man
08-27-09, 12:57
Great post. More than a few people must have been tempted to write "RTFF", but BL graciously sums up Cebu in a few sentences. Well done.

X


Dont forget to visit all mango square bars and then also must go to Jaguar and Arena KTV bars, then go to Paseo disco to see how Filipinos enjoy on weekends, then go to pumps and sunflower to see how Koreans shake that thing.

Visit SM, Ayala and Robinson mall, try to go to bohol beach, if you have time.

if you visit these 9 or 10 places you will get a clear idea of how things work in Cebu and on its way, you would have taken more girls than you could imagine.

Dont forget to also have some regular girls dating from sites such as dateinasia and also filipinaheart.com, you will have more girls to keep you busy than you could possibly handle, still it is a good thing :)

Good Luck

Buko Max
08-28-09, 02:46
It has a second deck overlooking the band, but this area is usually closed on weekdays.I've known the Pinoy manager at Sunflower for a couple of years and he was telling me they caught an American guy/Korean girl up there buns up and squealing a few months ago so they keep that section closed until needed.

The Rooster1
08-28-09, 14:57
You can buy socks for 50 pesos, just adjacent to the sunflower entrance where you pay the entrance fee, their is a girl who sells it and also keeps your belonging for security for a minimal fee. You don't have to go out of sunflower disco, may be the price has increased by last time it was only 50 pesos.Thanks BL. Next time I will just wear regular club attire there. Was used to Juliana's where it doesn't matter much. Keep up the good info. The list you have for the new guys is a good one.

Also, don't forget at the malls the mass numbers of pretty filipina's that work in these shops. Its easy to strike up conversation as they have to talk with you. Then slip them your number and see how long it takes to text!

And I always enjoy the Vikings bar as I think it has gotten better the last few months.

Peace out!

Blizz
08-28-09, 18:27
This was my first trip to Cebu, but I am pretty sure it won’t be my last. I had such a great time there that I stayed there almost the whole time, despite plans for going sightseeing across Philippines. Or you could just say I was lazy.

Want to share info with you guys on ISG, because I intensively read and use ISG before I go to a new place. This post will be split up into practical info part and my rambling part. Would appreciate feedback or comments on the rambling part. Also keep in mind that this post is based on my experiences and might thus not reflex the reality or ‘as it was experienced’ by others.

My background

Just came back from my trip in Cebu, during August (2009) I spend about 20 days in Cebu city. Before deciding on Cebu I considered going to Thailand (Pattaya), and Indonesia (Bali). After feedback from ISG members I settled on Cebu, because I was looking for GFE and I wanted to see a new place. So far I have been to Thailand, Laos, Cambodia and Peru for mongering.

Getting started

I flew in from Frankfurt to Manilla and onwards to Cebu, this cost me 580 euro return by Gulf air. Can’t really recommend this airline, but it was cheap so can’t really complain either. Booked a promotion ticket online and this I can certainly recommend, since the next available ticket would have cost 900 euro. So it pays to shop online with various airlines. Manilla to Cebu I used Cebu pacific: p2600. Going Cebu-Manilla I payed P2000. Tickets can be bought at the airport itself, terminal 3. You pay much more, but I had no choice as my credit card wasn’t accepted online. Keep in mind that you need to pay airport tax, which is p750 in Manilla for international flights which is a hassle if you don’t know. P200 for domestic.

I brought euro cash with me but didn’t use it as I was able to withdraw peso’s from ATM. Could withdraw biggest amount with BDO: up to p15.000 (perhaps more didn’t try). Other banks would let me withdraw only up to p10.000. Don’t know what would have been cheapest (withdraw or bring cash), but I felt comfortable withdrawing each time because don’t want to walk around with lots of cash. It is very easy to just exchange money.

Was worried about the raining season, but turned out that I hardly got wet.

At Cebu airport, go outside and walk up a flight of steps across from the terminal to the area of the casino, it is better to get a taxi up there than the lower level. The non meter taxis will below will try to charge you P300 to P500 for a 'contract' fare into the city. You should be able to get a meter cab for around P150-P170 to Eddies hotel, add a P20 tip.

Hotels

Eddie’s hotel: Decent hotel, good location, standard room p1400-1600. Liked this hotel because it’s right in the middle of the bars and has wifi. Friendly people.

West Gorordo hotel: Good hotel, had a deluxe room for p2000. No wifi. GF-unfriendly but as I booked into it with my GF-of the moment, it was okay.

Northwind hotel: Near sunflower disco. Ended up staying here most of my days. Liked it because it was cheap, standard room p1288 (low season), has good wifi and no hassle, friendly management. Very GFriendly. At one time I had 3 girls sleeping in my room and no complains or anything.

Transportation

I mostly used taxi’s. Paid between p50 short rides and p150 long rides. No need to worry about being scammed but insist on meter. Sometimes used jeepney, p7 but hard to know their route. Everything is pretty much walkable except for the heat.

Bars

Mermaid

This bar is on Mactan. Went to Mermaid once- lot's of girls, nice layout to watch the dancers. 50 peso entrance fee. Liked the place with shows but bit out of the way, as it is in lapu-lapu. Friendly girls. Full of Koreans.

Lonestar:

Mango bar area. Went several times. Always plenty of girls, number of guys varies. It’s a low season. Good place to start. Girls friendly and decent looking.

SilverDollar

Not really my bar, more for long term expats. Girls seemed to be more naughty. Cheap to drink, barfine p750

Viking Bar

A big space with lots of red sofas and plenty of girls. Girls not pushy and enough so you can find good looking one. LD are p150. liked this place.

Temptation:

Big bar with lots of couches and booths. Girls were fun and no push to buy LD’s. It was late, so not that beautiful girls.

Club Arena

Went here once, hardly any girls. But our guess was that the girls were doing a line-up in the private rooms. So didn’t stay. Entrance fee, think p100

Love city

Nice place. Plenty of pretty girls, but expensive. LD is p270 and mostly Japanese and Korean. One of the few places were I saw girls take of their top.

Jaguar

Same as Club arena. Big place with huge number of girls, so you can always find one you like. Not pushy, you can just sit and watch the show. Expensive if you want to get a girl or LD. Entrance fee, think p100

Clubs

Juliana

Spend a lot of time in front of Juliana. You can get a table and sit and watch the girls walk by. Busy on a saterday. Around 3 – 3.30am, a lot of the girls from the bars come here. So if you don’t want to pay the barfine but still want a girl, you might meet her here. A lot of the girl are available, meaning for a price you can bring them home. Good place to meet ladyboys too, if that’s your thing. You can get a beer set for p200 (5 bottles with ice)

Pump

Went to pump twice. Here you can also get a table and watch the girls. Plenty of girls and seems a lot of them are available, but I never picked one up. A fun place just to watch the girls and boys meet and flirt or get one yourself.

“Girlfriends”

While in Cebu I never paid barfines, but did buy LD’s. Got several girls from bars, as I would meet them later in Juliana and gave them taxi money between p500 to p1000. They never asked for money but I felt I should give them something as I had a good time and they need money for taxi anyway.

DIA

Most of the girls I spend time with, were from Date in asia. It’s a good place to chat with girls to see what they are looking for (more on this in part 2). My record is 10 minutes, between first contact and her being in the taxi on the way to my hotel. Didn’t have sex with her, but she gave me a decent massage. I paid for the taxi as she had no money. I spend a lot of time on DIA chatting with girls and trying to separate the freebies from the relationship-minded. I guess my hit-ratio between chatting on DIA and meeting in person was something like 20%. It could have been higher (like 50%) but a lot lived far away or I didn’t want to meet them (ugly, scammers). The ratio between chatting and ending up in bed was pretty low, something like 10%. That’s why I spend a lot of time on dia, you need to work the numbers.

A contact would typically go like this; chatting on dia, making clear that I only wanted to have “fun” and not a wife or gf. First meeting in a mall for dinner, while they bring a friend. Then either karaoke, drinking or meeting next day. Going to my hotel and into bed only if they felt comfortable and know you are a nice guy. They would be freebies, but I gave them p1000 for their troubles and taxi. I found that most girls are so-so looking but hotties can be found.

I also met several girls that wanted to spend time with me on a kind of girlfriend basis. Meaning they would spend time with me as we would visit other places or just go to disco and dinner. Not a bad deal for them, as they can have good food, free drinks or free trip while they can sleep in a nice room with aircon. I would be sleeping in the same room, so certain bedroom activities were understood and enjoyed. I had several candidates and picked one that turned out to be very sweet. Good deal for me too as we liked each other a lot, good in bed and all around good experience. She did ask for money (p1000 for 2 weeks) but I didn’t mind as I also didn’t want to have a gf or wife. So the deal was, I could see other girls and she would get free trip and some cash. Eventually I gave her in total p8000 for a period of 10 days spend together. Totally worth it.

Overall

Cebu turned out to be better than expected. Nice bars, clubs and plenty of available girls. Plenty of hotties or just sweet girls too. One of the best things for me was the English fluency. I like to get to know a girl before I end up in bed with them or I just like to have company for dinner so it works for me if I can talk to them. What is also liked was the attitude of the girls, not as hardened or business-like as pattaya but more sweet and GFE. Plenty of freebies or GF-material to be found.

Post Scriptum

Will post part 2 in “Filipinas - Opinions and Advice”. Feel free to send me PM if you have comments or questions.

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Blizz
08-28-09, 18:36
I did buy cialis at Osmena circle. I went there during the day time and it took the punters 5 sec to offer me cialis-20 mg and viagra 100mg. What they offer is packages of 4 pills in what looks the brand name. I am sure it's generic with fake package. I forgot what their starting price was, but could have been p2000 for one pack (4 pills). They will go down to p500 pretty fast, and if you insist they will go down to p200.

I tried the cialis and it works for me. so you don't need to worry about ending up with non-active ingredients.

Buko Max
08-28-09, 19:29
Next time I will just wear regular club attire there. Was used to Juliana's where it doesn't matter much.
Juliana has much the same policy unless they did not noticed you.
My buddy was refused entrance a few months ago for the same thing!
We just went across the square to Autoshop!

Brastrav
08-28-09, 22:06
Hi guys,

I need to ask you all a favor.

I need to go cebu soon and need some hotel recommendations from you.

Looking for low to midrange hotel, just need a clean room with aircon.

Thanks in advanceMr. Durex,

Try Apple Tree Suites. Located a bit away from the main road, but still close to Robinson's Mall. Because it's located a bit back in the streets, it's quiet over there, especially at night. I've stayed in a deluxe room: 1,398 Pesos per night, government taxes and all charges included. The deluxe room is small, but clean and good enough if you're just there for sleeping and showering. Has also a quite nice roof terrace where you can get a drink and/or breakfast, but need to pay extra. The whole building is quite new, just a few years old.

I also stayed in Sampaguita Suites, close to the main road, but the rooms at the front (street) are very noisy. The rooms are also a little bit dated, so Apple Tree Suites is good.

For further info, check this website: http://www.appletreesuitescebu.com/index.html

Mike

Hanny
08-30-09, 03:42
I am sorry for being lazy,

I will be leaving to Manila in 10days and I have no time for research.

I will be staying in Manila for few days before I go to Cebu.

Somebody please tell me where can I change my dollars? (I am staying in Makati) after my arrival to Terminal 2?

Thank you

Blizz
08-30-09, 08:29
Indeed, you are being lazy.

Any airport, repeat ANY, airport I have been to so far has money changing booths right after you exit departure hall. I have seen them in Manila airport, just didn't use them myself.


I am sorry for being lazy,

I will be leaving to Manila in 10days and I have no time for research.

I will be staying in Manila for few days before I go to Cebu.

Somebody please tell me where can I change my dollars? (I am staying in Makati) after my arrival to Terminal 2?

Thank you

The Rooster1
08-30-09, 08:35
I am sorry for being lazy,

I will be leaving to Manila in 10days and I have no time for research.

I will be staying in Manila for few days before I go to Cebu.

Somebody please tell me where can I change my dollars? (I am staying in Makati) after my arrival to Terminal 2?

Thank youNo worries. You can change right at the airport in Terminal 2, probably the hotel you are staying at, the malls, banks. No problem's. Same in Cebu. Safe to go to the banks. ATM's are all over the place as well. Just make sure you have a good amount before leaving the airport. Happy tails!

Peace out!

Finrod
08-30-09, 09:20
I am sorry for being lazy,

I will be leaving to Manila in 10days and I have no time for research.

I will be staying in Manila for few days before I go to Cebu.

Somebody please tell me where can I change my dollars? (I am staying in Makati) after my arrival to Terminal 2?

Thank you
If you have time to post this question, that implies you have time to come back here to look for responses which in turn implies that you have time for a few quick searches that would give you the answers you require. Heck, you could not even be bothered to post this question in a more appropriate thread. Which you could have searched first. Have a great day. And by the way, searches are a lot of fun, one never knows just what he'll find...

Brymor
08-31-09, 05:12
Arrived back in Cebu yesterday from CDO where I had more than an interesting time (see my reports on CDO under 'other areas'). I got ambushed at the airport by one of my DIA chat mates, her two kids and Cousin, all of whom had travelled to meet me. I am not quite sure how I made the complete and idiotic mistake of telling her my arrival time, but the damage was done and fellow mongers have permission to flame me for this. After some negotiations I paid the cousin for his efforts 250 instead of the 450 he had demanded to bring them to the airport and thought to myself "ah well I will have to write off two days at least'
Would like to say a big thank you to Spam Hog who helped me out at the airport during my negotiations.

She is 32 years old and though she has two young kids she has a fantastic body. She is actually a 2nd Dan Black Belt Karate instructor, dirt poor and ekeing a living out instructing karate in her local town and doing the neighbour's laundry. Shit she did not even have enough money to get a jeepney into town where I was staying and she lives in a one roomed house with her kids, her cousin and her cousin's husband and their one year old child.

Since my hotel has a pool I took the two kids shopping to buy them swim suits and bought dinner. Hell it starts to become expensive when you are paying for four of everything and I don't think I can keep this up for more than a few days unless things really take off. Have told her I am checking out to go home in 2 days, that way if I get pissed off I can send her home and check into a new hotel and if I am happy I will stay I have decided to stay longer because I love her so much. To be honest I really like her and despite her cousin trying to rip me off at the airport, in some ways I don't blame them for trying to make an extra few pesos here and there.

My first night with her was great and once the kids were asleep we got down to business. She is lovely, a nice firm body and small tits but definitely nothing really to look at facially. Out of all the girls I have met, she is probably the poorest girl and I feel sorry for her trying to raise two kids on no money. Shit yes I know this is a small reflection of what is happening all over this country but once you get involved it is much harder to deal with and remain untouched by it. I will probably leave her about 4000-5000 pesos when I go and keep in touch. She cannot even afford a cell phone and though I have a couple left in my suitcase, I am convinced she will only sell it once I am gone. When we returned back to the hotel last night she caught her sandal in a grill cover and tore the strap (her only pair) so I sent her in to town today to do some shopping. I actually gave her 400 pesos and she came back with armfulls of shopping from Colon Street market, mainly clothes for her kids. Its amazing what 400 pesos can buy and certainly opened my eyes.

I have checked into the Cebu Grande for a few days. I am an old regular at this hotel and got a reduced rate from them of 2160 pesos per night including breakfast and swimming pool. When I arrived at the airport I went to the desk where you can book hotels, located in the lobby of the domestic arrivals terminal. They quoted me 1800 pesos for the same room and it was highly amusing to see their faces when I told them I had already booked for 2160 direct with the hotel. They did try and contact the hotel to see if my reservation could be cancelled and rebooked through the airport agents, but the hotel refused to budge. It amazes me that they would not move on the price even when I threatened to go elsewhere and that they would rather lose a guest than negotiate the price. The agents at the airport can get some amazing deals and seems to be as good if not better than the other places on line such as Asia Rooms. Worth bearing in mind if you arrive here withouta hotel prebooked. I am not sure what their operating hours are, most likely the usual 9-5

X Man
08-31-09, 12:19
I've found the exact opposite the one time I tried to book with airport kiosks. I don't remember if it was in Cebu.

What have others found? I'll have to give it another try.

X





The agents at the airport can get some amazing deals and seems to be as good if not better than the other places on line such as Asia Rooms. Worth bearing in mind if you arrive here withouta hotel prebooked. I am not sure what their operating hours are, most likely the usual 9-5

Member #4167
08-31-09, 21:33
DIA,

Most of the girls I spend time with, were from Date in asia. It’s a good place to chat with girls to see what they are looking for (more on this in part 2). My record is 10 minutes, between first contact and her being in the taxi on the way to my hotel. Didn’t have sex with her, but she gave me a decent massage. I paid for the taxi as she had no money. I spend a lot of time on DIA chatting with girls and trying to separate the freebies from the relationship-minded. I guess my hit-ratio between chatting on DIA and meeting in person was something like 20%. It could have been higher (like 50%) but a lot lived far away or I didn’t want to meet them (ugly, scammers). The ratio between chatting and ending up in bed was pretty low, something like 10%. That’s why I spend a lot of time on dia, you need to work the numbers.Great Report, Blizz -

I am interested in how to best work the DIA scene, so I read your report eagerly.

Questions:

If you met 1 in 5 in person, and you bedded 1 in 10, then the math says that you bedded 50% of the DIA women u met in person. However, reading thru your report, it does not seem like this is true.

Question 1: Did u mean to say that, of the DIA women you met in person, you went to bed with 10% of them ?


A contact would typically go like this; chatting on dia, making clear that I only wanted to have “fun” and not a wife or gf. First meeting in a mall for dinner, while they bring a friend. Then either karaoke, drinking or meeting next day. Going to my hotel and into bed only if they felt comfortable and know you are a nice guy. They would be freebies, but I gave them p1000 for their troubles and taxi. I found that most girls are so-so looking but hotties can be found."First meeting in a mall for dinner, while they bring a friend. "

Screw that sh1t, I've been there and done that. I've been burned by this in other countries - no more of this for me. When they brought a friend, two things definetly happened:

1) I had to pay for the freind and had to put up with there cock-blocking.
2) I was definetly not going to get laid that nite, and usually not on the subsequent nites (because they refused to meet with me solo on subsequent dates)


Cebu turned out to be better than expected. Nice bars, clubs and plenty of available girls. Plenty of hotties or just sweet girls too. One of the best things for me was the English fluency. I like to get to know a girl before I end up in bed with them or I just like to have company for dinner so it works for me if I can talk to them. What is also liked was the attitude of the girls, not as hardened or business-like as pattaya but more sweet and GFE. Plenty of freebies or GF-material to be found.Sounds like the freebies were more expensive than the bargirls.

Starchild2012
09-01-09, 17:17
This was my first trip to Cebu, but I am pretty sure it won’t be my last. I had such a great time there that I stayed there almost the whole time, despite plans for going sightseeing across Philippines. Or you could just say I was lazy.



Wow great report Blizz, even though it was your first trip, you seem to have done well thorough research like one should be before going to Cebu, you covered all the areas a monger would experience...It was Perfect...

The more u live here or visit, the more you will be able to find the nicer ones.

I would suggest for your next trip to try out girls from filipinaheart.com less competition more choice and more willing girls, quality is debatable, to each to his own taste..but you will find more willing girls.

You can also visit Paseo disco, it does not get much mention as it's been in Cebu for only couple of years, but i think its a must, its 20 times bigger than pumps and 10 times bigger than sunflower...like a giant stadium for party and dance.... a place where filipinos enjoy on weekend.

Blizz
09-01-09, 19:06
Question 1: Did u mean to say that, of the DIA women you met in person, you went to bed with 10% of them?No, i did mean that i would bed about half of the girls i met in person. I was both selective as lucky. Still it took time and effort in some cases.

You are right that the freebies sometimes can be more expensive. However feel i am not just paying them for sex, but also for the fun time and for the emotional attachment that happens if you spend a certain amount of time with them. In short, any money i give them was worth it to me because i feel it will be put to good use (such as rice for the family)

Member #4167
09-01-09, 23:54
No, i did mean that i would bed about half of the girls i met in person. I was both selective as lucky. Still it took time and effort in some cases.

You are right that the freebies sometimes can be more expensive. However feel i am not just paying them for sex, but also for the fun time and for the emotional attachment that happens if you spend a certain amount of time with them. In short, any money i give them was worth it to me because i feel it will be put to good use (such as rice for the family)Hi Blizz,

Thanks for clearing that up

As for your comment "First meeting in a mall for dinner, while they bring a friend. " Yeah man, I did that in other countries and it hurt me more than it helped. The friend was usually a cock-blocker. From now on, I am implementing Dragon Slayers rules "no friends" (unless she also wants to screw). Alternately: I will give 1000 PHP to freind and say "Here, go buy yourself a nice dinner, and leave us alone"

If it costs me a date, it costs me.

Buko Max
09-02-09, 05:35
Want to share info with you guys on ISG, because I intensively read and use ISG before I go to a new place.
Great report Blizz! Well done!

That's the way it should be done here at ISG!
Read as many posts as you can before you travel.
Maybe ask a few questions.
Take the plunge!

It was a pity that you did not travel to an idyllic locale with your honey ko!


Temptations:

Big bar with lots of couches and booths. Girls were fun and no push to buy LD’s. It was late, so not that beautiful girls.
Maybe you got there after the Mamasan left because she rules that bar with an iron fist! My last visit she told my girl to get on stage because I was not buying a LD every 30 minutes!

Buko Max
09-02-09, 05:54
You can also visit Paseo disco, it does not get much mention as it's been in Cebu for only couple of years, but i think its a must, its 20 times bigger than pumps and 10 times bigger than sunflower...like a giant stadium for party and dance.... a place where filipinos enjoy on weekend.
Up until lately, Paseo was closed almost six months for remodeling.
Don't know what took so long but I will find out next month when I pay them a visit!


I've found the exact opposite the one time I tried to book with airport kiosks. I don't remember if it was in Cebu.

What have others found? I'll have to give it another try.
Have only noticed a few booths at the airport mostly for the resorts on Mactan. Maybe it was the 'Wow Philippines' kiosk!


Alternately: I will give 1000 PHP to freind and say "Here, go buy yourself a nice dinner, and leave us alone"That is way too much to get lost! 10% of that will do!

Brymor
09-03-09, 03:34
Checked out of my hotel yesterday to wave goodbye and see off my companion for the last few days. A bit of crying on her side and I will actually really miss her and her family but I keep telling myself other pleasures await.
Anyway I spent the rest of the afternoon conducting interviews with the DIA girls I had got numbers for, once I had checked into the new hotel (I chose the Diplomat since I have stayed there before, it is very girl friendly and have even had three girls in my room before without anyone batting an eyelid).

First interview was at Gaisano Mall on Colon Street with a nineteen year old. She failed to turn up on time and despite arranging to meet outside the main entrance to the mall she ended up in a completely different place. I had to give my cell phone to the security guard to tell her where to go, honestly I know there are language barriers but sometimes I think these girls are just plain stupid. Anyway she turned up with her 22 year old sister, both cute as hell and I thought this could be worth a further investment in my time. I was already running late for my second interview at Robinsons Mall so I told the girls I was late for a business meeting and could they meet me at my hotel in a few hours. Both readily agreed and I gave them 200 pesos for Jeepney fares and lunch and the disappeared off to Robinsons.

Here I met three girls, two friends in tow with the 18 year old I had arranged to meet. I ended buying the three of them iced coffee's plus a drink for myself in the coffee shop on the ground floor of Robinsons, which set me back around 450 pesos....an expensive interview. The three of them decided to take a look at my hotel room on the offer of some free chocolate so off we went back to the Diplomat. Once inside they were all giggling and acting very shy and I decided to take the plunge and I told the 18 year old how cute she was and would she come to bed with me. She was not in the least fazed by this but whispered back and forth to her friend. Her friend was obviously egging her on but the 18 year old kept pointing to her friend and "saying go with her she will do it with you". I told her I didn't mind her friends staying if she was feeling shy :-) but that I really wanted her as she was the cutest. She told me she would come back at 10pm and asked me to wait until then..

Well whether this was a delaying tactic or a genuine offer I do not know but I was in no mood for waiting so I basically gave her an ultimatum, stay now or go. After more whispering back and forth they got up to leave and poor old Mortman was left feeling frustrated as they walked off back to reception. I guess all three girls were readily available for any half decent man willing to invest in a bit of time with them, possibly a meal, disco and a bit of dancing. I just did not have the patience to do this on this occasion and so I had to watch three beautiful young girls walk away from me.

I then arranged for the two girls I had met earlier from Gaisano to come to my hotel and they arrived in less than 20 minutes. I escorted them up from reception, it was so funny watching the security guard's facial expression....complete awe and amazement! He had already seen me go up to the room with three other girls earlier, he must think Mortman is a gold medal winning stallion racehorse. These two sisters were again acting very shy, none of them would admit to having been with a western guy before and I actually believed they were telling the truth. I told them I fancied them both but they were having none of it and neither could stay the night as I wanted them to. Apparently their father would be very angry if they stayed out late beyond 10pm. After some friendly banter and chat I attempted to kiss the older sister but she told me she was shy and that her father would be very angry if she got pregnant. I realised this was going to take more time than I had right now so I told her I was late to meet my friend and could we hook up tomorrow instead. I decided to put these two on the back burner as I had another interview at Ayalla Mall pending and it was not looking very promising unless I spent a lot of time on them.

My last interview was at Ayalla at around 7pm and the girl I met was a bit chubby for my liking, I prefer girls to be slim and petite...each to their own. Anyway after a drink I got down to business and asked her if she would come back to my place. No problems at all and even though she appeared very very shy I knew I was on a winner. She told me she had just finished with her Pinoy boyfriend a month ago and before that she was a virgin until then. She had dated him for just under one month, never used any form of contraception and luckily for her she did not end up pregnant (or maybe she could be pregnant and not even know it). The boyfriend was a drug dealer and carried a gun and this is why she left him. Although I was feeling very horny I had visions of boy friend turning up at my hotel waiting to shoot me out of jealousy but Mortman was feeling too horny to care about his safety. Anyway she was cute, only 18 years old and when I asked her was she using any contraception with me she just replied shyly "No"...... God what is wrong with these girls, do they just not care about themselves?
Anyway back at the hotel the experience was equitable with her experience although she was willing to try anything I suggested. After about two sweaty hours of fun, I had just about had enough and was ready for sleep. I offered her the opportunity rather than stay the night to go home and she agreed....total cost 1000 pesos.

Anyway once she had left the room I could not sleep and decided to go for a walk. It was now around 11.30pm and I walked up the hill from the hotel towards Robinsons. Just on the right a couple of hundred meters from Robinsons there is a coffee shop where you can sit outside on a raised verandah. As I got there I was approached by quite an aggressive ladyboy who would just not go away. In the end I shouted very aggressively to her to "f#ck off" but that just made matters worse. As I carried on walking I could see that I was now being followed by three lady boys on the other side of the road and it was clear I was their intended target. I was also conscious about the experience of another monger that I read on the board about, who was robbed at gunpoint by a lady boy close to Mango Square so I walked up to the security guard at Robinsons and just remained there. I knew I was reasonably safe there and I decided that if they even attempted to approach me, I would just hop in a cab out of harms way. The stand off continued for about 5 minutes and after that they disappeared off down towards Mango Square. Whilst I do not mind going toe to toe with the most hardened lady boys, even if outnumbered, I also do not want to be another gun shot or stabbing statistic in the Phillipines. I guess the moral of this story is to be firm but polite with people....advice I often give out myself but which I failed to heed on this occasion. It was a shame since I wanted to try the bars in Mango Square but I did not want to chance bumping into those ugly mothers again

Kornada
09-03-09, 11:26
Juliana

Spend a lot of time in front of Juliana. You can get a table and sit and watch the girls walk by. Busy on a saterday. Around 3 – 3.30am, a lot of the girls from the bars come here. So if you don’t want to pay the barfine but still want a girl, you might meet her here. A lot of the girl are available, meaning for a price you can bring them home. Good place to meet ladyboys too, if that’s your thing. You can get a beer set for p200 (5 bottles with ice)Hey Blizz,

What's up? Had a fun time hanging out, we did our share of damage there no?

I can verify the ladyboy thing, as we ended up next to a table full of ladyboys there one night and got some pretty interesting info out of them. You also forgot to mention that chick we met at Juliana who threw up all over your floor, hahahah.

Bob Bowie
09-04-09, 20:48
[QUOTE=Mortman]. After about two sweaty hours of fun, I had just about had enough and was ready for sleep. I offered her the opportunity rather than stay the night to go home and she agreed....total cost 1000 pesos.
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Great post.

I have had good luck with DAI, but rarely on the first date do I hit pay dirt.

Are you blunt with girls on yahoo messenger about wanting to bang them ASAP? Do you hint that cash will be given to them afterwords?

What ever you are doing, seems to be working.

Brymor
09-05-09, 08:21
[QUOTE=Mortman]. After about two sweaty hours of fun, I had just about had enough and was ready for sleep. I offered her the opportunity rather than stay the night to go home and she agreed....total cost 1000 pesos.
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Great post.

I have had good luck with DAI, but rarely on the first date do I hit pay dirt.

Are you blunt with girls on yahoo messenger about wanting to bang them ASAP? Do you hint that cash will be given to them afterwords?

What ever you are doing, seems to be working.

BB
I find there are two types of girls on DIA, the players like ourselves who know what to expect and are up for fun. Money is rarely discussed it is just understood by all parties that the girl will be rewarded at the end, whether it is a short time or overnight. I tend to give the girls 1000 for short time and between 1500 and 2000 for overnight and I call it taxi money. Whilst these types of girls are no better or worse than your average professional working girl, they would be mortified to think that you would class them in this kind of way. You then get the genuine and often very innocent girls who are really looking for a boyfriend. These kind of girls are ripe for the picking but need to have time invested in them. You are more likely to strike lucky on the 2nd or 3rd date with these girls because that will convince them that you are genuine about them and are committed. It was these types of girls I met at my hotel and had I been willing to spend time with them I am sure I would have come up trumps. Sadly I just do not have the time or inclination to start genuine dating in the hope of a lay. I have had a number of successes on DIA and it helps if you can spend a few weeks chatting to them on line first and cultivating them. If they think you have come to Cebu only to see them, I think it greatly improves your chances.

On a side note I checked out of the Vacation Hotel yesterday having got rid of my last nights companions. One of the reasons for not staying any longer was because of the blood bath on the mattress. I had been accompanied by a mom and her 19 year old daughter but the daughter was in the middle of a heavy period. It did not stop me from climbing between her legs with mom watching but at the end of it all it looked like we had been sacrificing chickens on the bed. I managed to wash out the sheets but the blood had soaked right through to the mattress leaving it looking like a homicide scene. I turned the mattress over in the hope of hiding the evidence only to find what looked remarkably like a large dried piece of shit stuck to the underneath. I guess a previous inhabitant of the room had also had a mishap and like me tried to conceal the evidence. Anyway I could not face sleeping on that bed any longer and I was hardly in a postion to complain either. So I did what any self respecting monger would do, that was to flee the scene of the crime.

I moved back again to my old favourite the Cebu Grande Hotel on Escario Street yesterday afternoon. It does not often get mentioned on the boards but it is very convenient for Mango Square and Ayalla (both 5 minutes in the taxi) and very girl friendly. I have got a promo rate of 1800 per night including breakfast and a small rooftop swimming pool and it is without doubt the best hotel in that price range that I have ever stayed in.

I called the previous date to come back last night (the Karate instructor mentioned on my earlier post). She told me at 9pm that she would be at least two hours arriving so I went for a walk. I went to the Blue Angel Bikini Bar situated right behind the hotel in Escario Street and had a beer. No cover charge, SM lights a very reasonable 50 pesos and a superb (non naked) sexy dance show. Mainly a Pinoy place but I was made to feel very welcome and lady drinks 165 pesos. Take out here is 1750 and the quality of the girls I saw that evening was amazing. I made it clear that I was not interested in take out and just wanted a beer but one particular girl would not go away. She was absolutely gorgeous and I instantly fell for her. She was tiny just how I like them, 20 years old, probably around 38- 40 kg and around 5 feet tall with a beautiful slender body. She told me she was happy to just chat even though I had already declined to buy her a lady drink.
We spent around 30 minutes chatting and I starting to do some mental arithmatic to see if I could get her back to my place, do the dirty deed and get her out before my regular gf arrived. I was contemplating this seriously, but decided the odds of me getting caught were just too high so I had to walk away, feeling robbed.
As I walked back to my hotel I saw my gf and her two young kids walking towards me, good god this must be a first she has arrived early. I thought to myself what could have happened if I had succumbed to temptation and walked back with my gf feeling relieved that I had not been stupid.
I would highly recommend this bar to board members, very good quality of girls, no pressure to buy drinks and a friendly warm welcoming place. They also have full sized pool tables for those who have sporting inclinations

Blizz
09-05-09, 09:18
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Vandaddio
09-05-09, 20:52
Mortman,

Thanks for the hilarious read, I was laughing so much I spilt red wine over my bed, . But not period blood like your scenario. The blood/shit/mattress scene was the best I've read on here.

I, m similar tastes as you with the spinners, and am arriving in Phills next month. After so much info re Cebu, I, m going to make it a priority stop, and maybe a long stop if I can find a nice beach nearby.

I have also heard Cebu has some of the finest and smallest SPINNERS in all of Phillipines? I would be curious to what you and others think of this statement? I heard that the city is full of 75-85 lb'ers? And all legal age of course. Which I take as 18 plus.

Brymor
09-06-09, 07:52
Checked out of the Cebu Grande this morning said goodbye to my regular gf who thinks I am on the way to the airport and then immediately checked back in once she had been waved off in the taxi. I do feel a little guilty but that feeling wore off quite quickly as I began chatting to another girl on the street within seconds. We exchanged numbers but I doubt whether I will have enough time left as I leave for home on Tuesday morning and I have another regular gf on her way as I type. I had a walk the park in the centre of Osmena Circle before lunch and within minutes starting to chat to a couple of girls hanging out there. I didn't chance my luck as I have no time and I went off for some lunch at the Waterfront Hotel but reckon it is a potential pick up spot for non pros. Had the 199 pesos buffet at the Waterfront which I can highly recommend, the selection of foods is varied, reasonable quality and by Filipino standards will satisy the palate of most westerners. Dont make the mistake of using the buffet inside the hotel, it is an overpriced 650 pesos, the place I am talking about is situated in the sea food restaurant just outside the main entrance and I wish I had discovered this place earlier. Have also been eating at the AA Barbecue almost next to the Crowne Garden Hotel, I can also highly recommend this place.

Brymor
09-06-09, 10:43
I am hanging around this afternoon waiting for one of my regular gf's to show up, she lives in Lapu Lapu and said she would be here around 6pm. After a nice lunch at the Waterfront I went for a wander around Ayalla Mall, there was loads of women today easily outnumbering men by 2 to 1. I had many smiles and eye contact as I walked around but it had to be something special to attract my interest, particularly as I was rapidly running out of time.

I was on the 2nd floor and was approached by a Lady boy basically offering a catalogue of girls but I politely told her that I was quite able to manage to find a girl on my own. I then went off towards the terrace and caught the eye of a pretty young thing, dressed in a short mini skirt. She made eye contact and smiled and I thought to myself "this is the one for me" I followed her out onto the terrace and just struck up a conversation with her, nothing refined or polished just a "Hi where are you going" She responded and we just got chatting. She asked if I had a gf and I thought to myself "lets just be honest this time and see where it gets me".....ok sort of honest. So I told her I had a chat mate from DIA coming over to meet me at my hotel in a couple of hours and that I didn't have much time, but that I thought she was ever so cute and I wished she could come back with me.

She agreed on the spot and poor old Mortman could hardly walk back to the taxi rank with the heavy weight he was now carrying in his shorts. Turns out she was 21 but could easily have passed for much younger, works in Colon Street, lives with parents and is also a part time student. Admitted to having had a boyfriend from the States and that she was a virgin until she met him a year ago. Anyway we get back to the hotel and I am raring to go, get to the room to find they haven't made up the room since this morning. I just told her I had only checked in this morning and that the hotel had promised to clean the room but she was unfazed by all this and began undressing. Oh my god what a body, she was just so cute, perfect unblemished skin, nice hair and a gorgeous smile ruined only by a metal filling in the front of her teeth, apart from that it was perfection. As seems to be the usual case, not keen on having a shower before the dirty deed so there was little chance of me DATY

I decided right there and then that I didn't have much time and this was going to be pleasure for Mortman only. After a brief bit of foreplay she took me in her mouth and began an accomplished blow job, as good as I have ever had from any pro. Mortman had to pull out of her mouth otherwise it was all going to be over far too quickly. A bit more kissing and foreplay and I thought I just cannot wait any longer, I went for the boring predictable option, climbed on top of her missionary style and pumped away in that tight pussy until I blew my whole load.

We exchanged numbers and we showered together before I escorted her down stairs and out of the hotel. I gave her 1000 pesos and she seemed genuinely thrilled with this. Time from entering the hotel to leaving the hotel, just over 40 minutes!! I am now waiting for my regular to arrive and have scolded the hotel for not attending to the room. Hopefully this will all be done by the time I get back. Actually worked out for the best, since there is no greater giveaway than a couple of wet towels when your gf arrives in the room.

Interestingly enough she asked me how I met my current gf and when I told her DIA she admitted to being a member also. Ayalla is a great pick up spot for free lancers and normal regular girls and unless you look like you have been hit across the face with a baseball bat, you cannot fail. Even those that have been unlucky to have collided with a baseball bat still would find it hard not to get some kind of attention here.

Incidentally I was in Cebu for a few days a couple of weeks ago before I went to CDO and forgot to report on this amazing encounter at Ayalla. It was early evening about 7pm and I was sat outside on the terrace enjoying a coffee when a mature but very well dressed women caught my eye as she walked past my table. We got chatting, turns out she was 42 and normally way too old for me. But she had a great figure for her age and was good company. She wanted me to go to the Jazz and Blues Club with her but I told her I was too tired and needed a massage. She took the bait and suggested that she could perform the massage for me if I wanetd. I then told her only if she was able to do a very sexy massage. I swear she almost blushed under that dark skin of hers and she laughed nervously but replied yes. Anyway back at the hotel I shower strip off naked and lie on the bed. She strips down to her panties, does not shower and instantly wraps her mouth around my very hard shaft giving wonderful OWO. She then pushed my legs up so that my knees were up by chest and she began to lick my ass hole before gently and expertly pushing her tongue inside me. Wow never had that done before and I must admit it was a huge turn on. All the time she has her hand between my legs jerking me off. With the combination of her tongue inside my ass and her expert hand job I exploded with a massive orgasm. She was keen to kiss after but the thought of where that tongue had just been turned me off a little. I gave her the usual 1000 and she seemed happy with that. I must admit that the experience was worth double that. She even offered to do a full massage afterwards but I declined and sent her on her way. I made the mistake of giving her my number and I have had an almost daily stream of texts from her since then.....who knows I may go back for more heh heh heh

The Rooster1
09-06-09, 11:40
Thanks Mortman for the great reports. I'm sitting in Sharjah, strict Muslim city during Ramadon waiting my 3 days before returning to home to Cebu and the reports help. Ayalla is definitely a great place to pick up little Pinay's. My current steady girl said that Ayalla is the place she use to go get Protein for her eyes. The girls know thats a great place for foreigners looking for girls.

Also, I will now get to check out a new bar you mentioned. The Blue Angel Bikini Bar. I will check it out and report.

More Reports to come as I want to give to the site. Just new to the site and been busy with work.

Peace out!

The Rooster1
09-06-09, 13:15
Just going to give my two cents on this dating site and my experiences. I have never used DIA so can't make the comparison. I used FH to get aquainted with filipina girls before going on my first trip to the PI. I was going with a co-worker who lived in Manila and was married with a family. So I signed up and chatted with quite a few and set up 2 dates in Manila as we were going to spend 3 days in Manila before heading to the Province of Mindoro. When I got to Manila, we went out the first night with my friend and his wife and I never invited my first date along. We headed to a few places before ending up at the Firehouse in EDSA. I met a girl there that was so amazing (my first filipina) that I forgot all about the date that I had set up. Next night, made the rounds again, hooked up with a girl at a bar called Armazonia and her 3 friends. All four wanted to take me home and I was shy in front of my friends wife to take four back to the hotel, but my friend said she would think I was gay if I didn't. I only took the one girl, but did hook up with her friend the next night for my first threesome. My point is, I can't remember, I think I had a couple dates set up? They both went out the window as I was in so deep having fun. If I would of hooked up with these two dates, I wouldn't of met the prettiest girl I have ever had sex with and the best threesome I have ever had, which after that experience, have had many. This was my first time in the Philippines and I was with friends so not a good time to be meeting girls from FH. I would of lost out on a lot of good times on my first trip.

So, I was hooked and was going back to the PI every 3 month. During the downtime at work on the road in hotels and time away from the PI, I used FH to talk with a whole bunch of girls and really figure these girls out. I was always honest and primarily made a bunch of friends. I never told them any lies and my yM is packed of good filipina's if I ever decide to lock down on one.

I was heading to Cebu with my friend for the first time this last Valentines day and I did set up two dates in Cebu and I had 4 other numbers to call. I met this first girl who was 22 years old, full-time student and worked 30 hours a week. She had been with one American who was 34 years old and he ditched her for another filipina. We met at her work and we went out alone. We went out to a few quiet places and on the hilltop to look over all of Cebu. Then we ended up at Juliano's. I ordered her a shot of Tequila and we had 3 beers and it was on. I kissed her and after that, she couldn't keep her hands off me. We danced and it was time to take this girl home. I found out 3 beers and a shot ia a lot for this girl. I demanded I take her home so took her to her house. A lot of kissing and me thinking why am I so nice as she wanted to go to my hotel. If she wouldn't of been tanked, done deal on the first night. Next day, we went to the beach. She brought her work clothes and after a little while, said lets go to my hotel and we can relax and you can get cleaned up and dressed before work. Five minutes in the room I had her clothes off and 10 minutes I was putting the wood to her. She made it to work late and she came back after. I spent 4 days with her and had a blast. Every night she would have to be home at midnight which left me time to play. I did meet the other girl with her friend at Ayalla for some food. She was pretty but knew what I had waiting when I was ready. They so tried to get me to go out drinking and to the club, but didn't have enough time. So I said my byes and we still chat as we are just friends. But she is always trying to hook me up with some of her friends, which I might take her up on.

I am heading to Manila in 3 days with 7 hours overnight to kill before heading to the US to visit. It is such long travel that I don't want to hit the bars and do the scene. So I have a 29 year old meeting me at my hotel when I get in. I have never met her in person, only on the cam. She does massage and thats what I am wanting on my layover. I have been straight up with her about my intentions and she is all good. I have been chatting with her for a couple months so I didn't just start chatting with her. I will report on how it was.

I have had tons of time spent on FH, but only 2 meetings which both were sucessful as I know the 2 girls were a slamm dunk as well. And this one coming up in 3 days. I live in the PI on my days off so I don't really need to set up dates is the only reason I don't have more meets. But I still use it because I'm addicted to filipina's and when I'm away I still want to chat with them and meet new ones. If money ever comes up, or mention of a cam show I DELETE ASAP. I consider myself a good judge of character so its been relatively easy for me to find some good ones. I never tell them any lines of bullshit and this gives me huge points, even if I slip a little BS in. There. The only dilemna is, you become attached to some of these girls and want to meet them and its hard when they live all over the Country. I can assure you this, I have chatted with quite a few girls on FH that live in Cebu and surrounding area and there are many good girls on this site.

Long story, but needed to post.

Peace out!

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Vandaddio
09-06-09, 17:12
Tell us about the spinners Mortman.

Your there on the front line, whats your take on them?

Byung
09-07-09, 00:39
Mortman,

I really love your posts. Thanks for them.

However, I do have a question, in that you pay the girls after you're done. Like in your last story, you meet them and right away they start fucking you, so is that 100% that they are working girls? I mean, what if you didn't pay them and just said goodbye and just said you'd call them later (or something like that)?

My concern is that when I go around the malls and happen to pick up a girl, and happen to end up back in my room and we fuck, I don't want to finish and then have her asking me for money for the sex. I don't mind paying for it, but how can I distinguish which girls are pros and which are 'real' girls?

Brymor
09-07-09, 06:08
Mortman,

I really love your posts. Thanks for them.

However, I do have a question, in that you pay the girls after you're done. Like in your last story, you meet them and right away they start fucking you, so is that 100% that they are working girls? I mean, what if you didn't pay them and just said goodbye and just said you'd call them later (or something like that)?

My concern is that when I go around the malls and happen to pick up a girl, and happen to end up back in my room and we fuck, I don't want to finish and then have her asking me for money for the sex. I don't mind paying for it, but how can I distinguish which girls are pros and which are 'real' girls?

I am not an expert by any means and there are far more experienced members who can give a more qualified opinion than me, but I wll give you my take on the matter.

None of the girls will usually ask for money, they are far too conservative for that and to do so would make them feel like a prostitute, whether or not they are. The key is to treat them in a way that you show appreciation by giving them money, even if your aim is to see them again or stay with them. Remember that 1000 - 2000 pesos to us is chicken feed, but to a Filipina it is a lot of money. Someone once said that poverty is the greatest aphrodisiac known to man and you have to realise that many of these girls would not give you or I the time of day if they had money.

If you just fucked them and said good bye then yes you could easily get away with that, but I would not condone that kind of behaviour but to answer your question yes they are easily exploitable. Even the ones that fuck for money have an air of innocence about them, something that I find so alluring. Please do not assume that just because they will not talk about money it does not mean that they do not expect money. They will be deeply upset and offended if you fucked them and did not give them anything but more than likely they would not say anything to you. I would never dream of doing this. Most of the girls you will meet will treat you with respect and genuine affection and I simply reward this with what I consider to be a fair price. Even if you fuck them and ask them directly how much money they want, very few will actually name a price, they will leave it up to you.

As to being able to distinguish a working girl from a genuine girl all I would say is that if she agrees to go back to your room and fuck she is what you would term a working girl. But I do not like this term since it implies they are hardened professionals and nothing could be farther from the truth. These girls do not act like working girls or dress like working girls and they will only make eye contact with you and smile. In my (humble) opinion the scene here is not so black and white as you will find in places like Thailand and apart from the obvious pros, it is one big grey area, but one that is immense fun nonetheless. You have to make the initial approach if wandering around the malls and you will have to strike up a conversation with them, but it can pay huge dividends.

If you find a girl that you really like then do not ask them directly if they will come back to your hotel, if the girl is just a regular normal girl she will be offended by this. Do it in a more subtle way, like mentioning you would like to spend time with her but that you need a shower. You can then ask if if she wants to come back and wait for you and if she says yes then you are halfway home. If she declines, it means that she does not fuck for money (well at least not on the first date) and you may have a potential long term gf if that is what you are looking for.....but please remember she will probably need your help just as much.

If a girl stays with you it is normal to show your appreciation by paying at the end of your time together and as a general rule of thumb if you are happy with the girl I would normally pay a minumium of around 1000 pesos per day. Some pay more than this, it is entirely up to you. Obviously you will take care of all the day to day expenses on top of that. All the girls that I mentioned in my reports that I posted about Ayalla, none of them ever mentioned or discussed money and that will happen in most cases. If you meet a girl that mentions money, chances are that she is a pro. You will find the girls often talk about not being able to continue with their studies, and the struggle they have coping, this is their way of hinting gently that they will appreciate your help in a financial way.

Remember that my opinions refer to girls that you generally meet in malls but many of the observations also apply to girls that have regular jobs such as waitresses and shop assistants. There is an altogether entirely different scene available also in Cebu if you want the more recognised type of regular working girl and this topic is covered extensively in previous reports by other members.

Hope this is of some help Byung and I am glad you have enjoyed my posts. Let us all know how you get on.........good luck!

Nvslim
09-07-09, 10:31
Hope this is of some help Byung and I am glad you have enjoyed my posts. Let us all know how you get on.........good luck!



Sounds like solid advice to me, thanks.

Slim

Jesi James
09-07-09, 11:23
However, I do have a question, in that you pay the girls after you're done. Like in your last story, you meet them and right away they start fucking you, so is that 100% that they are working girls? I mean, what if you didn't pay them and just said goodbye and just said you'd call them later (or something like that)?
My concern is that when I go around the malls and happen to pick up a girl, and happen to end up back in my room and we fuck, I don't want to finish and then have her asking me for money for the sex. I don't mind paying for it, but how can I distinguish which girls are pros and which are 'real' girls?

If you meet a girl in the mall or on the street and you are back in your hotel within 30 minutes or less and your banging her, it is likely that several of us here have also banged her. Please put something in her hand 500-1000 pesos to help her with her or her families needs. She is NOT banging you because your Brad Pitt or your smooth pickup lines. She has to pay the boarding house or her child needs formula.

SOME will say before they come back that the have a problem and hope you can help them. At that time I tell them what I tip short time and my expectations. If they don't say anything, I tell them, that I can help them a little and then I tell them my expectations. I have had no one turn down my offers of 600 pesos short time and if I am really happy a extra 100 pesos for short time. Everyone asked me when they left, if they had made me happy.

Just a note from the front lines. Having fun in the sun.

Jesi James
09-07-09, 11:26
Tell us about the spinners Mortman.
Your there on the front line, whats your take on them?
Plenty of wow action from subic bay to davao. Buses, Jeepneys, Malls and street corners.

GoodEnough
09-07-09, 12:12
Mortman you have written some of the most perceptive, and most accurate posts I've read here in years, and I congratulate you on your perspicacity and your obvious sensitivity.

Many of the new guys who coming here for the first time want "rules:" about how much to pay, how to recognize pro, from semi-pro from "normal;" about how to get her back to the room and about pretty much everything short of the sex act itself. This is understandable I suppose, and would be appropriate in places like Thailand and even Vietnam, where the dividing line between p4p ladies and "others" is fairly distinct. As Mortman so accurately points out however, here in the Philippines, the case is different.

For one thing, Filipinos in general, and young women in particular are often reluctant to confront anything controversial--and money for sex is controversial--directly. This is, above all else, an extraordinarily poor country, and most people need money, but the need gets mingled with equal parts embarrassment and shame, so many girls will not be direct. It's better for all concerned I think--for you and for them--not to obsess about how much you're going to pay, and just to go with the flow. Enjoy the girls' company, take whatever enjoyment you can, and be as generous as possible without crossing the line to ludicrous. The money for the most part, is small change to you and it's a big deal to them, so to agonize about weather to give someone Php1,000 or Php1,500 is inane. Make no mistake however, the need for money is ubiquitous; they will all expect something at the end and they will expect you to understand this need.

Second, regardless of what you may hear, Filipinas are brought up to respect (often to the point of subservience) older people, and they're often somewhat uncomfortable around foreigners since they will almost instinctively assume that a foreigner is somehow superior to them. Though this may seem like (and is) nonsense to us, it's how many of them--especially those from the more rural areas--feel. This sense of insecurity, compounded by the factors cited above, makes it even more difficult for these ladies to discuss money with you. It makes them embarrassed and uncomfortable.

I'm in a relationship and I'm well out of the game now, but one thing that never changes is the principle of treating others with respect. Some guys--mainly those who could not get a woman to glance at them in their own countries--seem to enjoy humiliating the women they're with, assuming that because they're paying for her time, they somehow have the right to treat them however they choose. Many of these girls are desperate and will tolerate such behavior, which reinforces the belief of these cretins that they have the right to be as boorish as they please.

The bottom line? Treat the ladies with respect and enjoy their company. Don't worry about how much you're going to give them in the end, and just let common sense guide your actions.

GE

X Man
09-07-09, 12:23
Mortman has already given you a great answer.

My answer is that sometimes you can't differentiate between what is real and what is property for sale. And why should you? Are you interested in a wife?

I'll assume not.

Even if it is what some people call a FREEBIE, you should try to offer some kind of taxi money or gifts or etc. The pros will ask you to take them to the mall, but I've found that rare outside of the usual p4p destinations.

Or, if we make a day of it, I give her a big amount. She usually will decline. I say, "I'm on holiday and don't want to think about money -- you take care of everything."

At the end of the day, she still has a wad (of money). Sometimes she offers to give it back, sometimes she doesn't. If she doesn't, it is still money well spent. I dislike having to deal with money too much. Let someone else do it for you.

Sometimes I give her taxi fare home, sometimes I give her extra and suggest she come back tomorrow.

Anyway, Byung, if you don't want them to ask for money, make sure they have enough. If you are trying to get complete freebies, I'm disappointed. If you want to find a wife or a girlfriend, things get more complicated.



X


Mortman,

I really love your posts. Thanks for them.

However, I do have a question, in that you pay the girls after you're done. Like in your last story, you meet them and right away they start fucking you, so is that 100% that they are working girls? I mean, what if you didn't pay them and just said goodbye and just said you'd call them later (or something like that)?

My concern is that when I go around the malls and happen to pick up a girl, and happen to end up back in my room and we fuck, I don't want to finish and then have her asking me for money for the sex. I don't mind paying for it, but how can I distinguish which girls are pros and which are 'real' girls?

X Man
09-07-09, 12:40
Typing away, but Due to virtual time lag or whatever, GE posted his message to Mortman before I did.

I don't think my message is so different that GE, but his is much more succinct. I don't want my lengthly message to discourage anyone from reading on to GE's message. It is quoted below....



Mortman you have written some of the most perceptive, and most accurate posts I've read here in years, and I congratulate you on your perspicacity and your obvious sensitivity.

Many of the new guys who coming here for the first time want "rules:" about how much to pay, how to recognize pro, from semi-pro from "normal;" about how to get her back to the room and about pretty much everything short of the sex act itself. This is understandable I suppose, and would be appropriate in places like Thailand and even Vietnam, where the dividing line between p4p ladies and "others" is fairly distinct. As Mortman so accurately points out however, here in the Philippines, the case is different.

For one thing, Filipinos in general, and young women in particular are often reluctant to confront anything controversial--and money for sex is controversial--directly. This is, above all else, an extraordinarily poor country, and most people need money, but the need gets mingled with equal parts embarrassment and shame, so many girls will not be direct. It's better for all concerned I think--for you and for them--not to obsess about how much you're going to pay, and just to go with the flow. Enjoy the girls' company, take whatever enjoyment you can, and be as generous as possible without crossing the line to ludicrous. The money for the most part, is small change to you and it's a big deal to them, so to agonize about weather to give someone Php1,000 or Php1,500 is inane. Make no mistake however, the need for money is ubiquitous; they will all expect something at the end and they will expect you to understand this need.

Second, regardless of what you may hear, Filipinas are brought up to respect (often to the point of subservience) older people, and they're often somewhat uncomfortable around foreigners since they will almost instinctively assume that a foreigner is somehow superior to them. Though this may seem like (and is) nonsense to us, it's how many of them--especially those from the more rural areas--feel. This sense of insecurity, compounded by the factors cited above, makes it even more difficult for these ladies to discuss money with you. It makes them embarrassed and uncomfortable.

I'm in a relationship and I'm well out of the game now, but one thing that never changes is the principle of treating others with respect. Some guys--mainly those who could not get a woman to glance at them in their own countries--seem to enjoy humiliating the women they're with, assuming that because they're paying for her time, they somehow have the right to treat them however they choose. Many of these girls are desperate and will tolerate such behavior, which reinforces the belief of these cretins that they have the right to be as boorish as they please.

The bottom line? Treat the ladies with respect and enjoy their company. Don't worry about how much you're going to give them in the end, and just let common sense guide your actions.

GE

Brymor
09-07-09, 15:58
Tell us about the spinners Mortman.

Your there on the front line, whats your take on them?

I am here until tomorrow tonight being my last night in the Phillipines. I would like to help you out but I have no idea what your question relates to....sorry. I have never heard this term 'spinners' before?

Common Sense
09-07-09, 17:38
Guys,

Do any of you know if the Marriott Cebu is close to most of the action?

Supposedly it's in an ideal location and across the street from a major shopping plaza-just wanted to confirm with somebody on the ground.

Thanks

Lustforthrust
09-07-09, 17:51
Let's face it, over half the DIA members are scammers of some sort. It's quite natural that no one wants to be scammed but all want their scam to succeed whether it is to get into her pants or to make you part with your money for the baby's formula.

Don't know about Pinays at home but it's whole different thing overseas.
In November I spent 5 days in Manila recruiting skilled people for my project in Qatar. They agree to work for an average of QAR 4,000/m (~$1,100), pay QAR600/m for "bed-space" but wear "branded" jeans and possess the latest cell-phone. None of my business, I know.
The heart-breaking poverty (imagine this - Burger King chic makes P3,000/m, Hyatt's limo r/t to the agent's office P1,400), the things they do just to get to the interview, simply shocking!
Just before the crisis hit banks in Qatar (quite late), we lost over half of those who took off with the bank's money (one guy did QAR350,000). I have no problem with this; banks are fully cognizant of the risks of easy-lending.
Fortunately for me, that brought me to Manila again.

I'm not judging anyone, just reporting my experience.

The Rooster1
09-08-09, 00:24
Guys,

Do any of you know if the Marriott Cebu is close to most of the action?

Supposedly it's in an ideal location and across the street from a major shopping plaza-just wanted to confirm with somebody on the ground.

ThanksMarriott is a good place to go if your not worried about the price. It isn't for the budget monger. You will be well taken care of and no problems bringing in as many girls as you want. Also a very great bartender at the bar next to the lobby. He can help you out with any questions you might have. The Marriott is also connected to Ayalla Mall and is 5 minutes from Mango, where there is action. I have stayed there quite a bit on my first few adventures in Cebu as a result of me having some free nights and then I just stayed because I enjoyed it.

Peace out!

Andre007
09-08-09, 00:50
Guys,

Do any of you know if the Marriott Cebu is close to most of the action?

Supposedly it's in an ideal location and across the street from a major shopping plaza-just wanted to confirm with somebody on the ground.

ThanksThats very true and I guess it depends on what action you are looking for. The Marriott is (for arguments sake) connected to Ayala Mall thru a pathway.

If you are talking about Mango Bars you are about a 5min Taxi (P50)with no traffic.

Member #4167
09-08-09, 00:59
As I carried on walking I could see that I was now being followed by three lady boys on the other side of the road and it was clear I was their intended target. I was also conscious about the experience of another monger that I read on the board about, who was robbed at gunpoint by a lady boy close to Mango Square so I walked up to the security guard at Robinsons and just remained there. I knew I was reasonably safe there and I decided that if they even attempted to approach me, I would just hop in a cab out of harms way. The stand off continued for about 5 minutes and after that they disappeared off down towards Mango Square. Whilst I do not mind going toe to toe with the most hardened lady boys, even if outnumbered, I also do not want to be another gun shot or stabbing statistic in the Phillipines. I guess the moral of this story is to be firm but polite with people....advice I often give out myself but which I failed to heed on this occasion. It was a shame since I wanted to try the bars in Mango Square but I did not want to chance bumping into those ugly mothers againMortman,

Call me a wimp, but I personally would not go toe-to-toe with three ladyboys. Nor would I go toe-to-toe with three of anything. While you are fighting off two, the other one could come around behind you and choke you. Ladyboys are still boys. It is good that you saw them first and that you fled to safety.

Member #4167
09-08-09, 02:03
If you find a girl that you really like then do not ask them directly if they will come back to your hotel, if the girl is just a regular normal girl she will be offended by this. Do it in a more subtle way, like mentioning you would like to spend time with her but that you need a shower. You can then ask if if she wants to come back and wait for you and if she says yes then you are halfway home.
I'm in a relationship and I'm well out of the game now, but one thing that never changes is the principle of treating others with respect. Some guys--mainly those who could not get a woman to glance at them in their own countries--seem to enjoy humiliating the women they're with, assuming that because they're paying for her time, they somehow have the right to treat them however they choose. Many of these girls are desperate and will tolerate such behavior, which reinforces the belief of these cretins that they have the right to be as boorish as they please.

The bottom line? Treat the ladies with respect and enjoy their company. Don't worry about how much you're going to give them in the end, and just let common sense guide your actions.

GEThank you Mortman and GE, for you both made an important point.

I liked the way Mortman showed us how to talk diplomatically in order for the girl to "save face." I also liked GE's "Treat her with respect."

Some forum members may criticize me for saying this, but I feel that even brothel workers deserve to be treated with courtesy and respect. They are human beings.

Treating the freelancer/semi-pro/pro with respect and courtesy is an absolute must. No matter how poor she is, nor how slutty she is, in any culture, a girl feels shame when she has sex for money/gifts. I feel that anything I can do do lessen this shame, and make it seem less like pure "pay for play" will help her feel better and will make for a more mutually enjoyable experience.

In one country, two wh0res on the street approached me and started fishing for my wallet. They changed from "prost1tute role" to "thief role." As such, they did not deserve kindness or respect, and I forcefully shoved them away and yelled.

The grey area is when "good prost1tutes" turn into "bad prost1tutes." One time I had a semi-pro/GF with me on an extended trip. As we reached the furthest point from her home, she sided with total strangers in a con job and showed me total lack of respect and disloyalty. Even though she had turned into a "bad prost1tute" my duty was to return her to her home, (at great inconvenience).

As long as the girl is playing the role of prost1tute/GF/semi-pro, she deserves to be treated with respect and kindness.

Brymor
09-08-09, 06:50
At Cebu International awaiting my flight to Qatar. A big public thank you to Nightrider 1 and Spamhog for your help and support, you both helped to make this trip an informed and enjoyable experience. Good Enough and X Man thanks for the compliments, it is a honour to have them from such experienced board members. Good Enough I really wished I had time to meet up for that beer, I shall certainly drop you a line in the future next time I am in Mindanao I would love to visit your home territory in Davao next time.
I have to say that despite the corruption, the poverty, the terrible food and the awful service that you encounter everywhere, Cebu and Mindanao have both found a place in my heart. I have been a life long fan of Thailand but think I am won over at least equally to the Phillipines. I will be lucky enough to retire early in just over a year and though I am not sure about living here permanently (at least not just yet) I hope to spend at least 5-6 months of the year here. Who knows I may even commit the monger's cardinal sin and settle down with a good Pinay once I am here......watch this space!

Vandaddio
09-09-09, 01:16
Mortman, happy safe travels.

We enjoyed your front line posted experiences.

Well done indeed ol chap!

Spinners is a term for a very small chick around 75-90 lbs.

Once impaled on your rod, you can spin them around easily.

Some info reports many of this size in the Cebu area.

Common Sense
09-09-09, 21:40
Rooster and Andre,

Thanks for the info on the Marriott. I have points with them as well so money isn't a factor. I'm looking to roll solo down to old Cebu next January. I normally have back-up on an international mission but looks like it won't be so this time. Seems like a favorable place to conduct a single operator mission. However, I find myself constantly thinking about how satisfied I will be with the Filipinas? I've been to DR, CR, Brazil and Mexico and love the latino women and their shapely figures especially along the rear end. Yeah that's what I'm inclined to. From what I understand the Filipinas are a little more shapely than the Thais, but of course don't quite stack up to their latin counterparts. Perhaps there will be a few Filipinas around less scrawny than the one's in some of the pics I've seen. Regardless of that, I'm still willing to take a chance just for the new experience and I do look forward to this much talked about GF experience that the Filipinas supposedly provide. Hopefully, that will make up for the lack of meat on their bones.

X Man
09-10-09, 14:17
I prefer the skinny ones, but Lone Star and Viking both had some very busty women. You'll have to get there early.

X


Rooster and Andre,

Thanks for the info on the Marriott. I have points with them as well so money isn't a factor. I'm looking to roll solo down to old Cebu next January. I normally have back-up on an international mission but looks like it won't be so this time. Seems like a favorable place to conduct a single operator mission. However, I find myself constantly thinking about how satisfied I will be with the Filipinas? I've been to DR, CR, Brazil and Mexico and love the latino women and their shapely figures especially along the rear end. Yeah that's what I'm inclined to. From what I understand the Filipinas are a little more shapely than the Thais, but of course don't quite stack up to their latin counterparts. Perhaps there will be a few Filipinas around less scrawny than the one's in some of the pics I've seen. Regardless of that, I'm still willing to take a chance just for the new experience and I do look forward to this much talked about GF experience that the Filipinas supposedly provide. Hopefully, that will make up for the lack of meat on their bones.

Robbaf
09-10-09, 22:30
I took a buddy to Cebu last weekend for his cherry visit. He is a resident of Angeles and never visited Cebu. This is a breakdown of our weekend.

Silver Dollar: Opens at 1200 (only bar in town open) and I hate to say it, but the new owner doesn't have a clue I don't forsee this bar lasting a year. Same girls are there that were there a year ago. Carl and I arrived last Sunday at 1200 and of course the bar is on Filipino time and was open, but not ready for customers. We took a seat on the end of the bar and finally got served a drink while waiting for the girls to show up. As we were watching TV and talking a rat came down the bar towards us and it was at least 12 inches long. We called the bartender over and told her what we saw and she replied, Yes sir that is a spotlight dancer. Also, there were cockroaches EVERYWHERE! Upside to this bar, we were there 5 hours and had one ST and the total bill was 5000P. Good happy hour prices and LD prices.

Temptations: The bar is off the main drag down a side street. It seems more geared towards Korean/Japanese clients, but they treated us well. As we walked in there was 12 girls sitting in a horseshoe booth waiting to dance and we sat down right in middle of them. As we sat down they were like WTF???We started joking with them and soon they were laughing and having fun. We decide to play a game with them and if they played they got a LD (120p). We had them all stand up and we played Kalbo or no Kalbo and they had to show. This is like most bars in Cebu, NO CAMERAS ALLOWED Overall it was a great time. I took a girl from here and she told me it was her third BF. The first was a Japanese and she said that she didn't know that she was supposed to have sex with him and when she finally agree he didn't want to use a condom and she did, he didn't force her and gave her a 7000P tip She said her second BF was Korean and he did use a condom and gave her 5000P tip. I told her sorry, I gave her 2000P. BF was 1700P and the girl gets 850P.

BG's: A few customers and around 25 girls. Only had one beer here and was happy to leave with my wallet intact.

Vikings: Same owner as BG's and Erik the Red. I like this bar as it has more room and a better stage. There are normally 3-4 dancers and they do dance. We had a couple of girls here that were fun and liked to party.

Lone Star: Nice bar to drink in, but the furniture isn't too comfortable, few customers and around 25 girls. Good news is that the owner Graham has started opening at 4 pm, instead of 6 pm. BF here is 2700P and the girl get 2000P.

Jaguar: WOW what a ripoff. Worst club in Cebu. It is 200P to enter and one LD per hour (360P) SML is 120P. Eat in is 4000P and take away is 6000P We didn't see one girl there over a 5 Upon paying our bill they tried to add a drink for the Mommasan and we were like "No Fucking Way" and finally she agreed to take it off our bill.

In our rounds we stopped at GATE 3. It is a Casa very near Jaguar. They have a gate up and written on it is GATE 3 The taxi pulled up and the gate opened and we went in and we were the only customers. Carry out was 3000P and of the 30 ladies, not one looked worth that price. As were looking at the girls two groups of Koreans (7 total) came in.

Coliseum: New bar next to Bounty/Egypt which are still closed. No customers and only 10 girls. LD are standard 250P and SML is 80P. The layout of this bar sucks. It is three story and very hard to see the dancers. BF is 3000P.

Dimples: Nice bar, few customers and 15 girls. Not much to report here, just kicked back for one or two drinks and moved on.

Love Star: Bar is dark and there is a reason for that Not too many lookers here, but they are fun to drink with, just don't go when you are drunk, you may end up taking one home and waking up and chewing off your arm to get away

Sisters: This bar reminds me of TI in AC. Small bar and the girls will get wild.

Hot Rods: This bar has been recently renovated and renamed from the Black Hole. I had a bad experience here a couple of months ago. A buddy and I (only customers) had six girls and were buying our second round of drinks when two Koreans came in and the Mommasan called for a 100% show up. I called her over asked her WTF? As we had already purchased the girls drinks and she replied that is the policy Sir. We took our BF's in for one drink just to show Carl the bar. Also, the owner of Silver Dollar told us that Hot Rods was for sale...are you ready for this???? 4 million dollars!!!

Rocksoff
09-11-09, 04:07
I told her sorry, I gave her 2000P. BF was 1700P and the girl gets 850P. [...] BF here is 2700P and the girl get 2000P. [...] Carry out was 3000P [...] BF is 3000P.

Geez. Is it the Koreans spoiling the market? All sounds about double what I paid 2 years back (except casa I think was 2500).

Amavida
09-11-09, 04:34
Geez. Is it the Koreans spoiling the market? All sounds about double what I paid 2 years back (except casa I think was 2500).Agreed prices seem a little high to me. I rarely get to Cebu these days. My advice for a punter wanting P4P would be go to AC for a few days first , get your fill, then fly to Cebu & enjoy a relaxing holiday doing the many, many freebies/free lancers you will encounter there. Much better value.
The standard of Cebu P4P chicks does not impress me. Seems to me you can bang top shelf stuff in AC or Burgos for those prices.

AV

Amavida
09-11-09, 05:11
Guys, Do any of you know if the Marriott Cebu is close to most of the action?

Supposedly it's in an ideal location and across the street from a major shopping plaza-just wanted to confirm with somebody on the ground.

ThanksYes
http://maps.google.com.au/maps?ie=UTF8&q=Marriott+Cebu&fb=1&split=1&gl=au&ei=s82pSq2OHZiWiAOv342YDA&hl=en&sll=10.318122,123.897788&sspn=0.065854,0.021600&cd=3&usq=Marriott&geocode=FVBOnQAdtJtiBw&cid=13194908368484679506&li=lmd

X Man
09-11-09, 05:47
This is interesting. Over a year ago, I reported that Lone Star had moved to an all inclusive bar fine. BUT, when I was there last month I was assured it was 700 barfine. This was from the mouth of Graham!

Maybe it depends on the girl? On the mamasan? On the day of the week? What is going on? Or maybe 700 was quoted as bf, but then they spring the 2k on you when you pay the bill as the "service charge"? I didn't bf there so I don't know the reality. Can anyone elaborate?

Graham is the tall goofy guy who is always playing pool, btw.

Robbaf, did you bf at Lone Star? X







Lone Star: Nice bar to drink in, but the furniture isn't too comfortable, few customers and around 25 girls. Good news is that the owner Graham has started opening at 4 pm, instead of 6 pm. BF here is 2700P and the girl get 2000P.

!

Andre007
09-11-09, 08:50
Rooster and Andre,

Thanks for the info on the Marriott. I have points with them as well so money isn't a factor. I'm looking to roll solo down to old Cebu next January. I normally have back-up on an international mission but looks like it won't be so this time. Seems like a favorable place to conduct a single operator mission. However, I find myself constantly thinking about how satisfied I will be with the Filipinas? I've been to DR, CR, Brazil and Mexico and love the latino women and their shapely figures especially along the rear end. Yeah that's what I'm inclined to. From what I understand the Filipinas are a little more shapely than the Thais, but of course don't quite stack up to their latin counterparts. Perhaps there will be a few Filipinas around less scrawny than the one's in some of the pics I've seen. Regardless of that, I'm still willing to take a chance just for the new experience and I do look forward to this much talked about GF experience that the Filipinas supposedly provide. Hopefully, that will make up for the lack of meat on their bones.Your welcome and I see we have visited some of the same places. I have been to DR, Brazil, Columbia and Mexico. Maybe we can swap stories when you get here.

IMHO Pound for Pound with looks, wants, needs, price, bodies and english then this is the Daddy of them all.

Robbaf
09-11-09, 21:56
This is interesting. Over a year ago, I reported that Lone Star had moved to an all inclusive bar fine. BUT, when I was there last month I was assured it was 700 barfine. This was from the mouth of Graham!

Maybe it depends on the girl? On the mamasan? On the day of the week? What is going on? Or maybe 700 was quoted as bf, but then they spring the 2k on you when you pay the bill as the "service charge"? I didn't bf there so I don't know the reality. Can anyone elaborate?

Graham is the tall goofy guy who is always playing pool, btw.

Robbaf, did you bf at Lone Star? XYes X, I did bf out of Lone Star and 2700P was what I paid.

Robb

The Rooster1
09-12-09, 19:40
Rooster and Andre,

Perhaps there will be a few Filipinas around less scrawny than the one's in some of the pics I've seen. Regardless of that, I'm still willing to take a chance just for the new experience and I do look forward to this much talked about GF experience that the Filipinas supposedly provide. Hopefully, that will make up for the lack of meat on their bones.No problem on the advice. I wouldn't necessarily call them scrawny. It's all about personal preference. There are all sizes, shapes and forms in Cebu as is the case all over the world. You will have your pick in Cebu. I would have to say that there are smaller than average girls here than in the mentioned countries you have listed.

I haven't been in the countries you have listed, but I have been all over Europe, Africa, Middle East and a few places in Asia and have never found a better girl than a filipina. Its all about personal choice though. Better discussed over a cold San Mig Light! Let me know if you want to have a beer in Jan.

Peace out!

Andre007
09-13-09, 04:58
Yes X, I did bf out of Lone Star and 2700P was what I paid.

RobbThis is interesting because I contacted somebody from the bar that is even higher up than Graham.. He assured me the BF was 700 and its up to the girl to negotiate.. Some of you may know him as he is mainly silent but he assured me that nothing has changed and nobody should have been charged p2700 from the bar.

Buko Max
09-13-09, 09:24
Geez. Is it the Koreans spoiling the market? All sounds about double what I paid 2 years back (except casa I think was 2500).
Yes could very well be! Prices have generally stayed the same but some bars are now all inclusive due to the fact that some guys cheap out. A few places are even charging Koreans an entrance fee since some of them don't buy drinks.

Last April I believe I payed 2000 php at Lone Star so they must be collecting everything up front because I did not tip the girl. Tourists in general are charged more then local expats.

Thanks for filing your report Robbaf! This thread needs more reports like yours!

X Man
09-13-09, 14:33
"silent"? That's not Graham! I guess you know someone higher up....

At first glance, G seems to be a regular customer, drunk and playing pool (LOUDLY).

Anyone who has common sense and walks into a bar takes his bearings. In lone star you immediately find this large man, playing pool, who is loud and apparently intoxicated...and you make it a point to avoid him. I did. Finding out he was the manager was only slightly encouraging.

I was there about three times over a one week period, so my interpretation may be flawed.

Thank you Andre for confirming that Lone Star has two policies about bar fine.

Maybe known customers get the benefit of the doubt, but newcomers get the "service charge" added on.

Who knows.

Robbaf, when is your next visit to Cebu? Inquiring minds want to know!

X


This is interesting because I contacted somebody from the bar that is even higher up than Graham.. He assured me the BF was 700 and its up to the girl to negotiate.. Some of you may know him as he is mainly silent but he assured me that nothing has changed and nobody should have been charged p2700 from the bar.

Don2010
09-14-09, 17:25
Does anyone have a map of Cebu with all the bars and massage parlours?

Also the prices for girls/bar fines/massages/high low seasons?

I am planning my first trip to the Phillippines and want get get as much info as i can before i go.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Royxxx23
09-14-09, 20:35
Does anyone have a map of all the bars and massage parlours and night clubs in Cebu?

Also prices for girls and massages?

What are the best bars and massage parlour and night clubs

I am planning my first trip there in 2 months time and i am trying to get all the information i can before going.

I have also seen DIA a lot on the Cebu forum. what does this mean?

Any help would be greatly appreciated

Roy

The Rooster1
09-14-09, 21:16
Does anyone have a map of Cebu with all the bars and massage parlours?

Also the prices for girls/bar fines/massages/high low seasons?

I am planning my first trip to the Phillippines and want get get as much info as I can before I go.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.Hello Don. I suggest you look back only about 5-10 pages and get all the info you need. That is a big request and there is a lot of good info by different people in those pages. Good luck.

Peace out!

Mahal
09-14-09, 21:47
spent a couple days in cebu to sample the bar scene. after reading the forum i opted to stay at the marriott ($85 week-end rate) in downtown cebu rather than near the beach. that turned out to be a good choice.

day 1: went to ayala mall around 7:00pm, which is directly and very conveniently connected to the marriott. the mall looks like a smaller greenbelt and is very nice. i don't know how other mongers go about picking up girls at the mall, all i can say is that after walking around for 2 hours i was not approached by anyone, i did get a couple glances from not-so-attractive girls, but then i can't even say for sure that they really meant anything. as far as i can tell, there are lots of people shopping there and i did not see how i could recognize the ones that might provide p4p or might be willing to follow me back to the marriott. i suppose you need to find some way to approach single girls or the ones who are in groups, but personally i did not find that easy to do.

slept for a couple hours and took a taxi to lone star. as previously reported it is very pleasant to see that taxis use the meter without being asked in most cases, or sometimes you have to ask but they just look like they forgot and do not complain. once in lone star i was immediately surrounded by 4 or 5 girls, waiting for me to pick one. the quality was rather good with 2 or 3 very nice looking girls and some average. i picked up a taller girl (can't remember her name) after several drinks, paid the barfine of 1700p, which includes 1000p for the girl and we went dancing at juliana's disco. the place was absolutely packed and very warm, entrance includes a drink, after an hour or so we decided to call it a night and went to the marriott. bbbj and a nice session, though not quite gfe. she stayed till morning and i gave her an extra 1000p, which seemed to be ok.

day 2: went to the pool, then back to ayala mall around 2pm figuring i went too late the day before and decided to get over my inhibitions. well, that did not work, i walked the place in all directions for several hours and... nothing happened. actually something did happen, one of the sales ladies at the department store hinted that she would come to the beach with me, after i asked her how long it would take to go there. she gave me persistent looks and kept asking me personal questions, i think i could have easily bagged her. i did not because even though she was pretty i was not attracted to her.

back to the room to get a couple hours sleep and took a taxi to arena since that seemed to be the top place in town. taxi driver warned me of arena's prices and recommended to go to jaguar, i stayed with arena.

was led to my table by a ladyboy, a little surprised, and watched the girls dance. the setup looks like a us strip club, big stage and tables in front. there were only about 3 other customers in the place, all korean. the girls that i saw were ok, a few very pretty but the majority looked no different from what i saw at lone star the night before, only many, many times more expensive. in fact as soon as i arrived the waited came to recite the list of costs, drinks for the girls, mandatory drinks for the mamasan, barfine. i paid 450p for 1 drink (includes entrance fee) and left.

thought ok, i will check jaguar. i liked it much better, it is a little less expensive than arena (still a 5000p barfine), the girls were very beautiful and some dance topless. i enjoyed watching them for an hour or so but was not going to pay this kind of price without checking other options first, so i headed to viking.

i liked viking, the bar, the girls, the prices (50p drinks and 1700p barfine). a really cute girl approached me and i bought her drinks. she was so pretty but seemed shy. i started getting jealous of a japanese guy who was almost getting raped by the girls on a couch, my girl saw that and as soon as the japanese left she called one of her friends over. i was hungry and ordered fries, which then prompted all the girls to come to our table to eat, soon i was surrounded by an army of pretty ladies, choices... i decided to take both my original shy girl and her wild friend, paid the barfine for both, headed to the marriott where i had no problem getting both girls in (they had to register).

this turned out to be one of the best sessions i have ever had with 2 girls. they said they had not been together before, both were wild in bed and it was all kissing, sucking (both have young children and were lactating!), licking etc... for almost 2 hours. we slept 2 hours and the shy one woke up, kissed me and started a good morning bj while her friend was sleeping, i exploded in her mouth and she smiled. wow... we had breakfast (great breakfast at the marriott) and separated, i gave 1000p to the friend and 2000p to the one who worked double, she kissed me and said she hoped to see me again, very great experience.

Robbaf
09-14-09, 22:02
This is interesting because I contacted somebody from the bar that is even higher up than Graham.. He assured me the BF was 700 and its up to the girl to negotiate.. Some of you may know him as he is mainly silent but he assured me that nothing has changed and nobody should have been charged p2700 from the bar.I am shocked to hear this. I have a friend who has known Graham a long time and very well (as in knows where he got his money) introduced me to Graham and told me that he owns the bar and he is the manager. That was my first BF from Lone Star and the BF was 2700P, as quoted by the girl and what I paid. Since she told me this I only tipped 200p as I was staying in Mactan and wanted to ensure she could get back to the city. (I am a nice guy:D)

Robb

Robbaf
09-14-09, 22:15
"silent"? That's not Graham! I guess you know someone higher up....

At first glance, G seems to be a regular customer, drunk and playing pool (LOUDLY).

Anyone who has common sense and walks into a bar takes his bearings. In lone star you immediately find this large man, playing pool, who is loud and apparently intoxicated...and you make it a point to avoid him. I did. Finding out he was the manager was only slightly encouraging.

I was there about three times over a one week period, so my interpretation may be flawed.

Thank you Andre for confirming that Lone Star has two policies about bar fine.

Maybe known customers get the benefit of the doubt, but newcomers get the "service charge" added on.

Who knows.

Robbaf, when is your next visit to Cebu? Inquiring minds want to know!

X
X, you are correct. Graham acts like a customer. As I stated in my last post I have a friend who knows the story.

Sorry, I was in Manila last weekend and Manila this weekend, then I leave for Vietnam. I will not be back in Cebu for at least a month:(

Robb

Buko Max
09-15-09, 00:51
Does anyone have a map of Cebu with all the bars and massage parlours?
Here is a map that has many nightlife landmarks:

http://tomrich.sakura.ne.jp/cebu_top.html


Also the prices for girls/bar fines/massages/high low seasons?
For the second part of your query, you will have to read back through this thread because it is all there!

Noholesbarred
09-15-09, 05:20
DAY 1: went to Ayala Mall around 7:00PM, which is directly and very conveniently connected to the Marriott. The mall looks like a smaller Greenbelt and is very nice. I don't know how other mongers go about picking up girls at the mall, all I can say is that after walking around for 2 hours I was not approached by anyone, I did get a couple glances from not-so-attractive girls, but then I can't even say for sure that they really meant anything. As far as I can tell, there are lots of people shopping there and I did not see how I could recognize the ones that might provide P4P or might be willing to follow me back to the Marriott. I suppose you need to find some way to approach single girls or the ones who are in groups, but personally I did not find that easy to do.

DAY 2: Went to the pool, then back to Ayala Mall around 2PM figuring I went too late the day before and decided to get over my inhibitions. Well, that did not work, I walked the place in all directions for several hours and... nothing happened. That's exactly my experience.

I spent an entire morning sitting in front of Shakey's and was approached by an ugly mal-nourished duo, another ladyboy girl duo and a pot-bellied solo.

Where the claims of sexy eye-candy comes from beats me.

Brymor
09-15-09, 09:19
I think you both have missed the point of how to pick up girls in the malls, I must admit I had the same problem when I first started.

Some girls will make eye contact with you as they walk past you, sometimes they may not even smile and the eye contact may only be tantalisingly brief not even long enough for you to think "she is available" Some may smile when making eye contact but for many girls who are naturally very shy, they may not even dare smile at you.

If they are in a group they will giggle amongst themselves and look at you very shyly. Just overcome your natural inclination to wait for positive signals and just initiate conversation with girls, it will reap amazing dividends just trust me on this.

Sitting outside a coffee shop or restaraunt and waiting to be approached is certainly not the way to go. Sure this is a great way of watching girls walk past so you can identify specific targets to engage, but most girls will not make the first approach.

Like you have already pointed out in your posts, the ones that do make the first approach are either hardened pros or ladyboys and neither of these interest me in the slightest.

I am in my 40's and not particularly extrovert but I have never had a problem picking up girls at the malls, Ayalla in particular. Some of my most exciting conquests have been with girls who did not give off any signals at all. I just went up and struck up a conversation with them and within 20 minutes we have been in a taxi on the way back to the hotel. Just remember 'faint heart never won fair lady'

When you do chat to them, treat them with respect and never suggest that you want them to come back to your hotel for sex. You will more than likely lose your chance and upset them into the bargain (read my previous post on the subject). You must be subtle in your approach, at the end of the day they probably already know what your aim is, you just need to keep things on a respectable level so no one is offended or embarrassed.

These girls are normally just regular non working girls but once you have got them back, they tend to give a real GFE and in some cases a better service than you will get from girls in bars etc. You will occasionally get girls who will accompany you but will still not have sex with you until you spend some time with them. These girls are great if you are looking for a regular gf and a bit of time invested in them will reap huge dividends later, that is assuming you have the time to do so.

I have had girls come back with me only to find that they have no intention of having sex with me, at least not straight away. If that happens I just apologise to the girls, I usually just tell them that they are so cute I could not resist them and then I give them their taxi fare home. Although it can be a frustrating experience for the monger, neither person loses face or feels embarrassed. If I wasn't such an impatient SOB and willing to invest time with these kinds of girls, maybe take them out for a meal, take them home and meet their family then without question they would deliver the prize we so eagerly seek. Unfortunately I am never around long enough to be willing to invest that kind of time and I always feel a bit deceitful meeting her family unless my plans are long term with her

FreebieFan
09-15-09, 09:51
I think you both have missed the point of how to pick up girls in the malls, I must admit I had the same problem when I first started.

Some girls will make eye contact with you as they walk past you, sometimes they may not even smile and the eye contact may only be tantalisingly brief not even long enough for you to think "she is available" Some may smile when making eye contact but for many girls who are naturally very shy, they will not even smile at you. If they are in a group they will giggle amongst themselves and look at you very shyly. Just overcome your natural inclination to wait for positive signals and just initiate conversation with girls, it will reap amazing dividends just trust me on this. Sitting outside a coffee shop or restaraunt and waiting to be approached is not the way to go. Sure this is a great way of watching girls walk past so you can identify specific targets to engage, but most girls will not make the first approach. Like you have already pointed out in your posts, the ones that do so are either hardened pros or ladyboys and neither of these interest me in the slightest.

I am in my 40's and not particularly extrovert but I have never had a problem picking up girls at the malls, Ayalla in particular. Some of my most exciting conquests have been with girls who did not give off any signals at all. I just went up and struck up a conversation with them and within 20 minutes we have been in a taxi on the way back to the hotel.

Just remember that when you do chat to them, treat them with respect and never suggest that you want them to come back to your hotel for sex. You will more than likely lose your chance and upset them into the bargain (read my previous post on the subject). You must be subtle in your approach, at the end of the day they probably already know what your aim is, you just need to keep things on a respectable level so no one is offended or embarrassed.In the good old days when I lived in Manila I bagged a Cebu trip every 6 weeks. Yes I had some regulars there but so I could keep " my eye in" I would play the pick up in Ayala mall game.

My MO was to hang around near the ice cream place on 2nd foor. (well there used to be one.). When I saw a likely target would put on a big smile, explain that I was waiting for a friend but that I think she had stood me up, so would the " target" join me for ice cream instead.

Meant the target knew I wasnt totally alone on my Cebu trip, and no lady passes up ice cream. Plus you get to make many corny and double entendre type jokes about ice cream etc. Had a good success rate with that approach. Of course sometimes the targets ugly friend came along too. But thats up to you how to get rid of her. My approach there was to give her P100 and tell her to go get a burger. The ugly friend was usually fat (and ugly). So a a burger suited her better than ice cream.

Noholesbarred
09-15-09, 10:09
Some girls will make eye contact with you as they walk past you, sometimes they may not even smile and the eye contact may only be tantalisingly brief not even long enough for you to think "she is available" Some may smile when making eye contact but for many girls who are naturally very shy, they will not even smile at you.

Just overcome your natural inclination to wait for positive signals and just initiate conversation with girls, it will reap.

I just went up and struck up a conversation with them and within 20 minutes we have been in a taxi on the way back to the hotel.

Just remember that when you do chat to them, treat them with respect and never suggest that you want them to come back to your hotel for sex.

You must be subtle in your approach, at the end of the day they probably already know what your aim is, you just need to keep things on a respectable level so no one is offended or embarrassed.This is the "playa" approach that works anywhere at anytime; nothing special or unique to Ayala mall or Cebu.

Fast Eddie 48
09-15-09, 23:15
That's exactly my experience.

I spent an entire morning sitting in front of Shakey's and was approached by an ugly mal-nourished duo, another ladyboy girl duo and a pot-bellied solo.

Where the claims of sexy eye-candy comes from beats me.Noholesbarred,

I don't understand why that you have problem scoring in the mall, I have scoring many time there just walk around the mall, if I get a smile I just walk up to them invite them for a drink or share a pizza and then back to the hotel, it is so easy to pick up girl in cebu here and there are also many freelance working the mall but most are not good looking, it is better that you do the picking many girl hang out at bo coffee after 7pm.

Fast Eddie 48

X Man
09-16-09, 12:17
Another great post by the Mortman.

Not all ladies in the mall appreciate advances from foreigners, so expect some rejection. Not all of you are as young, intelligent and witty as the Mortman.

The ladies that work in the shops are actually paid (a pittance) to talk to customers (in a sense). If you are shy, practice on the shop ladies. Make sure you have some cards to pass around. Most of the shop ladies in the mall are on contract and only work a few months. They may be very good girls, but you have a window of opportunity since their families know that they are AT WORK.

My very best mall score was a girl who worked at a toy kiosk at Victoria Mall in Davao.

X

Noholesbarred
09-16-09, 13:07
Noholesbarred,

I don't understand why that you have problem scoring in the mall, I have scoring many time there just walk around the mall, if I get a smile I just walk up to them invite them for a drink or share a pizza and then back to the hotel, it is so easy to pick up girl in cebu here and there are also many freelance working the mall but most are not good looking, it is better that you do the picking many girl hang out at bo coffee after 7pm.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks for (name) dropping by Ed.

Shakey's is right on top of Bo's and TGIF is right below.

Hopefully, you'll bless us with a report of how you scored there.

D Cups
09-16-09, 15:55
Kind Sirs:

I had a brief visit to your fine island many years ago as a USAF officer. While I have mongered (and continued to monger) many places since and now I am getting to the point in my life (I'm 54) where I am planning my retirement in approximately 10-15 years. It is unlikely I will stay in California given the rising costs and the unfortunate declining quality of life in America.

I desire to settle down, perhaps marry, a twenty-something Filipina nurse (busty and cute) and stay in Cebu with her. When I visit Cebu next where would I go to meet a bevy of these fine educated beauties?? I mean, where are the single nurses hanging out? Should I try the nursing schools? Where are they in Cebu, please?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. PM me if you wish!

I also play the guitar and am curious about the guitar-making there. Any info on this would be appreciated. I have a design for a customized acoustic guitar that I would like to have made. Any musician-mongers feel free to correspond :).

Salamat Po and Mabuhay!

Robbaf
09-16-09, 22:51
Kind Sirs:

I had a brief visit to your fine island many years ago as a USAF officer. While I have mongered (and continued to monger) many places since and now I am getting to the point in my life (I'm 54) where I am planning my retirement in approximately 10-15 years. It is unlikely I will stay in California given the rising costs and the unfortunate declining quality of life in America.

I desire to settle down, perhaps marry, a twenty-something Filipina nurse (busty and cute) and stay in Cebu with her. When I visit Cebu next where would I go to meet a bevy of these fine educated beauties?? I mean, where are the single nurses hanging out? Should I try the nursing schools? Where are they in Cebu, please?

Any information would be greatly appreciated. PM me if you wish!

I also play the guitar and am curious about the guitar-making there. Any info on this would be appreciated. I have a design for a customized acoustic guitar that I would like to have made. Any musician-mongers feel free to correspond :).

Salamat Po and Mabuhay!Unless you plan on staying for a while, it wouldn't be that easy to find what you are looking for. I would suggest that you join a dating site and find a girl through chatting/webcam. There is a guitar factory and and hotel can give you the info on the tours that they offer.

Vandaddio
09-17-09, 06:04
I told you guys the secret in my PM, and you both blew it, so I, m posting it for all to read.

I told them to put a big potatoe in their bathing suit.

The girls will swarm them.

When I went by to inspect the results, the girls were horrified and laughing.

Both had put the potatoe in the back of their bathing suits.

Dannah Mae09
09-17-09, 08:27
Hi,

Well, it's been quite a while after my last post here for advertisement purposes. Maybe some of you have some question's in mind, why I'm back nor what happened. Yes, 3yrs passed away and here I am again offering the same thing. I have so many decision's in life that I thought will help me to be on the right track and not picturing out to go back here and do the same, but I have to and will just do this for short period of time.

Everyone who help me before, you know who you are. I owe you a lot, maybe I not been honest with some of you but I thank this site because I know someone who taught me that there's a lot of things life can offer.

So here I am again, Dannah Mae a 23yr old, bachelor degree holder and currently employed for a US based company morely called here in the PI as Contact Center. A choice that other might disagree, but I hope that other understand the reason why I'm back here. I'm apologizing if I cannot able to emphasize my reasoning but will tell you if ever we seen each other.

For those people who will be interested to have a GFE, Sex guides and other stuff that a girl can offer you can send me a PM so I will give you some of my information as before then will send you my recent photo's, contact nos and rates at tamichvsatyah.

Enjoy hunting and take note, to those who go frequently in LA Cafe, be carefull with those planted girls who will ruin your stay.

Thank you!

DM

Starchild2012
09-17-09, 17:42
Guys remember, if you plan to stay longer in Cebu, i don't think its a good idea to pick up shop girls regularly from malls.

There are only two big malls in Cebu and say, you picked up 10 girls from each mall. Remember now that you would be staying for long time, how would you feel when you see your last night stands in the shopping mall again or worse you are with another girl.

It may go down ok with some girls, but not many regular filipinas would appreciate you hanging with other girls.

I would feel insecure and ashamed to walk on the same floor with another girl when i know the other day girl may be in the next shop working.

Its ok to pick up hookers etc, but a girls working in the shop is forever atleast that you would encounter her again if you stay for more than six months. its ok if she would go with consent or for money...still i don't think she would appreciate your going with another girls in front of her.

Remember, Filipinas never forget, but good thing is they forgive :)

Robbaf
09-17-09, 22:23
Guys remember, if you plan to stay longer in Cebu, i don't think its a good idea to pick up shop girls regularly from malls.

There are only two big malls in Cebu and say, you picked up 10 girls from each mall. Remember now that you would be staying for long time, how would you feel when you see your last night stands in the shopping mall again or worse you are with another girl.

It may go down ok with some girls, but not many regular filipinas would appreciate you hanging with other girls.

I would feel insecure and ashamed to walk on the same floor with another girl when i know the other day girl may be in the next shop working.

Its ok to pick up hookers etc, but a girls working in the shop is forever atleast that you would encounter her again if you stay for more than six months. its ok if she would go with consent or for money...still i don't think she would appreciate your going with another girls in front of her.

Remember, Filipinas never forget, but good thing is they forgive :)This is great advice. As I live in Zamboanga and we have two small malls. I made this mistake my first month (in both malls) and now I have to see them everytime that I go back to the mall:( They are always asking for my help and telling me how much they miss me:(

Buko Max
09-18-09, 00:33
I mean, where are the single nurses hanging out? Should I try the nursing schools? Where are they in Cebu, please?

I also play the guitar and am curious about the guitar-making there. Any info on this would be appreciated.
Yes there are a few places where doctors and nurses hang before and after work but I will not divulge that info publicly. PM for details!

There are a few guitar factories located out on Mactan. Never visited them but I'm sure they will be able to help you!

Paalam!

X Man
09-18-09, 05:22
Born Loser presents a good point. Nevertheless, most readers don't have to worry about such a problem.

Some of the workers (half?) in the larger department stores are on a six month contracts. In some cases they will have a different uniform than the others.

To each their own, but I find the malls great for the eye candy and the occasional seduction attempt. (no, I'm not talking about the lady boys trying to seduce ME!).

What else is a guy to do in the daytime?

True story:
X Man in the men's underwear section at a department store. Young female employee approaches -- I'll call her A.
A: Cotton underwear, sir.
X: Yes, I can see that.
A: What is your size, sir.
X: Ummm, large. (Damn, why didn't I say, "very, very large!")

X


Guys remember, if you plan to stay longer in Cebu, i don't think its a good idea to pick up shop girls regularly from malls.

There are only two big malls in Cebu and say, you picked up 10 girls from each mall. Remember now that you would be staying for long time, how would you feel when you see your last night stands in the shopping mall again or worse you are with another girl.

It may go down ok with some girls, but not many regular filipinas would appreciate you hanging with other girls.

I would feel insecure and ashamed to walk on the same floor with another girl when i know the other day girl may be in the next shop working.

Its ok to pick up hookers etc, but a girls working in the shop is forever atleast that you would encounter her again if you stay for more than six months. its ok if she would go with consent or for money...still i don't think she would appreciate your going with another girls in front of her.

Remember, Filipinas never forget, but good thing is they forgive :)

Mr Durex
09-18-09, 14:34
Hi guys,

Next month I am going to a Moalboal which "near" Cebu, to have (or have not) a substitute if it breaks with my gf I want to ask if one knows if there are some nice girls around moalboal too.

Thanks in advance and keep it save guys.

Cheapy
09-19-09, 10:13
Did research on ISG and DIA, so hit the ground running. Checked out Vikings Bikini Bar which has a good line up of ladies and I was treated well. Hooked up with one of the dancers at 5:00PM daily before work, so twas a daily freebie.

Went to Stripes as mentioned in the forum and liked it. Small intimate bar with a "superfine" mamasan and barfined a spinner for only 1000p. Got the "my first week / I'm from the provence story" but actions proved otherwise! Excellent full service value. This was my only pro for 8 days & nights.

Met 5 more of the DIA girls as follows:

- one cutie from the provence with cousin escort, tried to lure me to family home prior to doing the deed. Had to cut her off.

- one met me at night at hotel and got down to biz. She is a semi-pro and gave her 1000p

- another met me at the mall with cousin but was a bit "thick" so had to reject.

- then connected with a fine 21 year old who works at a spa. Total girlfriend experience with intelligent, nice lady. Slept with her for the next 5 nights and probably will see her again.

- Met a 30 yr. Old that was conservative at first but turned out to be a total tigerss in bed (great BJ and all the trimmings). Coffee and lunch invested. Definately GF material but she will try to get serious quickly.

DIA Summary: Had about 20 contacts but got off track with the girl friend experience. Would probably have batting average of 50% if I had been more disciplined in pursuit. Stay away from the very young ones, waste of time.

DIA Rejects: I've told them I have another GF or just not interested and they just keep texting. Their whole family expects them to "hit the jackpot" so be prepared for aggressive follow-up from girls.

Ayala Mall seems to be the best hunting ground for pick-ups. Good restaurants and movie theater. Juliana disco doesn't get going until 11:00pm. No cover during the week, 100p on weekends. Sunflower (with live band) seems more for couples or groups.

DIA Communication & Scheduling: You got to get a Phils sim card and better get good at texting. Would suggest setting up their name in memory so you can stay organized. Good appointment times are 1PM for intros, 4/5 PM for bargirls (prior to work), 8PM for sure things or room deliveries. Mornings good for texting and setting up next day. This should yield a minimum of two pops a day. Note that girls will almost always be late (traffic, memory loss etc.) Tell them to text you when they are getting close, so you don't waste too much time waiting around.

Enjoy the hunt. Note: DIA is dateinasia.com

GregLondon
09-19-09, 21:27
One of the girls I saw regularly on my trip a few months ago has messaged me that she needs some cash to pay for her fees (don't they always). She's actually a cute 20 year old slim but with pretty large boobs. She's also brighter than the vast majority of girls you will meet in Cebu easy going and fun to be with. If anyone is in Cebu and looking for some GFE I can put you in touch just PM me. Obviously she is looking to make some money but i think her expectations are very realistic.

Gumby2004
09-19-09, 22:25
Guys remember, if you plan to stay longer in Cebu, i don't think its a good idea to pick up shop girls regularly from malls.

There are only two big malls in Cebu and say, you picked up 10 girls from each mall. Remember now that you would be staying for long time, how would you feel when you see your last night stands in the shopping mall again or worse you are with another girl.

It may go down ok with some girls, but not many regular filipinas would appreciate you hanging with other girls.

I would feel insecure and ashamed to walk on the same floor with another girl when i know the other day girl may be in the next shop working.

Its ok to pick up hookers etc, but a girls working in the shop is forever atleast that you would encounter her again if you stay for more than six months. its ok if she would go with consent or for money...still i don't think she would appreciate your going with another girls in front of her.

Remember, Filipinas never forget, but good thing is they forgive :)This advice also applies to airport 'pickups'. During one of my newbie trips, I made made the mistake of moving in on a sweetheart security guard at the manila airport. I was even naiive enough to meet a few of her security guard friends. Shiit! Imagine running into someone you know EVERY time you're at the fucking airport? Worse, imagine being unable to avoid them, even if you spot them first? And worse yet, being unable to avoid answering questions like, "where are you going? " With the Filipino gossip network being what it is, I may as well have handed the girl a GPS monitor.

Not only is your approach important, but it pays to consider where you are, and whether you expect to return to the same spot, before you make your move.

Mahal
09-20-09, 03:10
I think you both have missed the point of how to pick up girls in the malls, I must admit I had the same problem when I first started.

Some girls will make eye contact with you as they walk past you, sometimes they may not even smile and the eye contact may only be tantalisingly brief not even long enough for you to think "she is available" Some may smile when making eye contact but for many girls who are naturally very shy, they may not even dare smile at you.

If they are in a group they will giggle amongst themselves and look at you very shyly. Just overcome your natural inclination to wait for positive signals and just initiate conversation with girls, it will reap amazing dividends just trust me on this.

Sitting outside a coffee shop or restaraunt and waiting to be approached is certainly not the way to go. Sure this is a great way of watching girls walk past so you can identify specific targets to engage, but most girls will not make the first approach.

Like you have already pointed out in your posts, the ones that do make the first approach are either hardened pros or ladyboys and neither of these interest me in the slightest.

I am in my 40's and not particularly extrovert but I have never had a problem picking up girls at the malls, Ayalla in particular. Some of my most exciting conquests have been with girls who did not give off any signals at all. I just went up and struck up a conversation with them and within 20 minutes we have been in a taxi on the way back to the hotel. Just remember 'faint heart never won fair lady'

When you do chat to them, treat them with respect and never suggest that you want them to come back to your hotel for sex. You will more than likely lose your chance and upset them into the bargain (read my previous post on the subject). You must be subtle in your approach, at the end of the day they probably already know what your aim is, you just need to keep things on a respectable level so no one is offended or embarrassed.

These girls are normally just regular non working girls but once you have got them back, they tend to give a real GFE and in some cases a better service than you will get from girls in bars etc. You will occasionally get girls who will accompany you but will still not have sex with you until you spend some time with them. These girls are great if you are looking for a regular gf and a bit of time invested in them will reap huge dividends later, that is assuming you have the time to do so.

I have had girls come back with me only to find that they have no intention of having sex with me, at least not straight away. If that happens I just apologise to the girls, I usually just tell them that they are so cute I could not resist them and then I give them their taxi fare home. Although it can be a frustrating experience for the monger, neither person loses face or feels embarrassed. If I wasn't such an impatient SOB and willing to invest time with these kinds of girls, maybe take them out for a meal, take them home and meet their family then without question they would deliver the prize we so eagerly seek. Unfortunately I am never around long enough to be willing to invest that kind of time and I always feel a bit deceitful meeting her family unless my plans are long term with her
Thanks for your feedback Mortman. I figured that was the issue, will do better next time!

X Man
09-20-09, 11:09
Maybe we should ask the Mortman for some of his mall pickup lines!

Usually I like to make a comment about some interesting clothing. I might ask for directions, but if I don't really need directions I feel stupid asking. I'm a poor liar anyway.

Asking for a restaurant recommendation and then asking her to join me works well, but I got tired of eating at Jollibee. Then I started saying, "Yea, I like Jollibee too, but I was there yesterday."

(I'm a terrible liar but I REALLY like the jollibee BEE IMAGE that stands out front. I think of that when I say I "like" Jollibee)

X

Thanks Gumby for the interesting airport story. I've flirted with a few airport rent-a-cops, but that is all. Maybe your friend has a friend in the computer section and searches your name. That's why she's always there smiling as you deboard.




Thanks for your feedback Mortman. I figured that was the issue, will do better next time!

Brymor
09-20-09, 11:31
Maybe we should ask the Mortman for some of his mall pickup lines!

Usually I like to make a comment about some interesting clothing. I might ask for directions, but if I don't really need directions I feel stupid asking. I'm a poor liar anyway.

Asking for a restaurant recommendation and then asking her to join me works well, but I got tired of eating at Jollibee. Then I started saying, "Yea, I like Jollibee too, but I was there yesterday."

(I'm a terrible liar but I REALLY like the jollibee BEE IMAGE that stands out front. I think of that when I say I "like" Jollibee)

X

Thanks Gumby for the interesting airport story. I've flirted with a few airport rent-a-cops, but that is all. Maybe your friend has a friend in the computer section and searches your name. That's why she's always there smiling as you deboard.

X Man
I really wish I could lay claim to being a highly skilled lothario with a great arsenal of chat up lines however the truth is very different from that. My chat up lines tend to be quite boring but I make sure the opening line invites a response from the girl and makes it difficult for her to just answer yes or no. I always start using one of the 5 Ws...who, why, where, what, when as these kinds of questions force the girl into talking. One of the best conquests I had was in Gaisano Mall in CDO when I saw a girl walking on her own looking at the advertisement hoardings for movies. She did not seem approachable at all, didn't smile or give off any signals at all. I just went up and asked her what films she had seen (she answered "none I can't affford it ") and then I told her I would like to see a movie what movie did she think was worth seeing. Anyway within 20 minutes we were in a taxi back to my hotel, we didn't even go for a coffee or food first. She was a fantastic lay ( I reported this in the CDO thread). Anyway I didn't go and see a movie with her, it was just an excuse to chat. I think you have the right attitude about chatting to girls, it doesnt really matter what you say to them so long as you approach them first. The opening line does not have to be witty or humorous and if I was back home doing this I can assure you I would not get anywhere. Seems to work fine for me in the Phillipines

Amavida
09-20-09, 13:50
This advice also applies to airport 'pickups'. During one of my newbie trips, I made made the mistake of moving in on a sweetheart security guard at the manila airport. I was even naiive enough to meet a few of her security guard friends. Shiit! Imagine running into someone you know EVERY time you're at the fucking airport? Worse, imagine being unable to avoid them, even if you spot them first? And worse yet, being unable to avoid answering questions like, "where are you going? " With the Filipino gossip network being what it is, I may as well have handed the girl a GPS monitor.

Not only is your approach important, but it pays to consider where you are, and whether you expect to return to the same spot, before you make your move.Yeah & dont forget many girls have male cousins who work as security guards in practically every business... bamboo telegraph indeed...

AV

Member #4351
09-20-09, 16:36
Now that you mention the “bamboo telegraph”, I got on FH for a few weeks before this trip and received daily messages from an OK looking Cebuana. Saw her my second day here and managed to open up her “puki”…appeared that as she had told me, she really had only had sex once before, information which I had doubted. After bloodying up the Marriott sheets, I became a believer. Anyway, the next day she goes nuts because I am spending time with my buddy and not with her. I receive a barrage of text messages beginning with, she’s going to erase all my messages and don’t talk to her again, to (after I say fine, do whatever you want), asking me to forgive her for sending the whacko messages. Anyway I basically tell her that I am not in Cebu to deal with someone who gets jealous over a guy friend, and that she had best find someone else who enjoys drama. So today she asks me if she can come by my hotel room tomorrow and use my computer to find another guy on FH. I say, no problem.

Meanwhile, I see a photo of a cutie on my yahoo messenger. I don’t remember who it is (like many others, I have added so many girls in my usual disorganized manner, that I am completely mixed up as to who is who), so say hi and ask her who she is. She starts chatting and turns on the cam. I see what appears to be a mother sitting next to her. Sure enough its her Mom, managing the situation. We talk for awhile and the girl is definitely sweet, so despite Mom’s presence I mention Jollibees in Ayala Mall and she’s over here in a flash. She is a munchkin but extremely cute IMHO. I take it slow, we talk for awhile and I buy her a couple of tubs of Jollibee chicken for Mom and the family. This goes over big and I start getting thank you text messages asking when she can see me again and go swimming in the hotel pool.

An hour later, I start getting lunatic messages once again from girl number one asking why I have another girl in my hotel. Since I hadn’t had anyone, (unfortunately) today in my room, I asked her what she was talking about. Turns out that girl number two is her cousin! She’s going nuts telling me if I want other girls, no problem..but not her cousin. Like any self respecting ISG member would do, I told her that she could forget about coming over tomorrow to use my computer and that I wouldn’t be answering any more of her text messages. I would like to pursue cutie number two, but don’t want to start a family war...so I may just forget the whole thing.

Wicked Roger
09-20-09, 18:47
Like any self respecting ISG member would do, I told her that she could forget about coming over tomorrow to use my computer and that I wouldn’t be answering any more of her text messages. I would like to pursue cutie number two, but don’t want to start a family war...so I may just forget the whole thing.
Nice FR David had me laughing..:D

Jealousy is a major issue and problem as many FIlipinas see it as a sign of love when it is IMHO a sign of insecurity And yes I agree when you start to get the whacko SMS then best drop the girl

Alternatively you could have asked if munchkin and girl #1 wanted a threesome - keep it in the family so to speak...:D If they said yes well done, if not she will think you are a crazy sex fiend (aren't we all?? :)) and stop bothering you.

Yella Man
09-20-09, 23:04
An hour later, I start getting lunatic messages once again from girl number one asking why I have another girl in my hotel. Since I hadn’t had anyone, (unfortunately) today in my room, I asked her what she was talking about. Turns out that girl number two is her cousin!

Man! These are problems I wish I had right now! Great story David.

Yella Man

Member #4351
09-21-09, 14:36
Just got another text message from her. Somehow she knows I barfined a girl from Stripes two nights ago. A weird cousin coincidence is one thing, but I have no idea how she found out about Stripes. I walked in...had some water...talked to a couple of girls and barfined one. Total time spent, maybe 20 minutes.

Chocha Monger
09-21-09, 18:28
Just got another text message from her. Somehow she knows I barfined a girl from Stripes two nights ago. A weird cousin coincidence is one thing, but I have no idea how she found out about Stripes. I walked in...had some water...talked to a couple of girls and barfined one. Total time spent, maybe 20 minutes.
You've got a stalker on your hands. You can either pull up stumps, break camp and move to new mongering grounds, or ignore her and root everything in sight including the cousin.

Member #4351
09-22-09, 01:16
Chocha Monger,

I'm going for option two...and will get the cousin her bikini today so she can have an excuse to visit my hotel....

Spam Hog
09-22-09, 05:36
Hi guys,

Next month I am going to a Moalboal which "near" Cebu, to have (or have not) a substitute if it breaks with my gf I want to ask if one knows if there are some nice girls around moalboal too.

Thanks in advance and keep it save guys.

The talent in MOALBOAL is thin, but this being the Phil you can always score if you are patient. The biggest thing going is a disco on saturday and saturday only can't remember the name. I've seen one or two girls hanging roundthe beahc bars but nothing outstanding. Mostly what you have is the girls (and their BF's) coming in from the surrounding province on Saturday to go to the disco.

Easy to get to Moalboal, go to CITI link near E Mall in Cebu, get the bus to Badian or Molboal, cheap, takes about two hours to get there. So My startegy would be if it doesn't work out, go back to Cebu where the ladies are more plentiful and better looking.

Goodluck

Spamhog

Mr Durex
09-22-09, 07:16
THX a lot for your advice mate :-)


The talent in MOALBOAL is thin, but this being the Phil you can always score if you are patient. The biggest thing going is a disco on saturday and saturday only can't remember the name. I've seen one or two girls hanging roundthe beahc bars but nothing outstanding. Mostly what you have is the girls (and their BF's) coming in from the surrounding province on Saturday to go to the disco.

Easy to get to Moalboal, go to CITI link near E Mall in Cebu, get the bus to Badian or Molboal, cheap, takes about two hours to get there. So My startegy would be if it doesn't work out, go back to Cebu where the ladies are more plentiful and better looking.

Goodluck

Spamhog

The Rooster1
09-22-09, 13:27
Was only in Cebu one night this days off and made it to Ayalla for some Ribs with the regular girl and a friend. After dinner, went over to Fridays for a san mig light (Coldest beer in the PI). As My girl and I were sitting outside on the patio, I observed something to share. Two girls starting hanging outside on the patio in front of Fridays. One was a 6 and the other was smoking hot at around an 8. My girls back was to them so I made it a point to give and get a couple smiles. What I witnissed was that they kept looking in the bar area. After about 5 minutes of obvious flirting with someone inside, the two girls walked in the bar and pulled up a seat at the bar next to a guy in his late 40's, early 50's. Two drinks were bought and I'm sure he had a nice evening. Point is: You don't even need to get off your bar stool to pick girls up here!

The key to all the reports before about Ayalla or any mall with having difficulties is: a big smile, and make eye contact. If you get a smile or a look, stop and ask directions, ask her anything-doesn't matter. A lot of these girls are very shy to foreigners to start the first contact so they will only give a quick look. A quick look or a smile is your que. Once you start chatting and being nice with them, they will open up. Within a few minutes you will know how its going to go. It's up to you!

Peace out!

Buko Max
09-23-09, 16:41
After dinner, went over to Fridays for a san mig light (Coldest beer in the PI).
Yes that area around TGIF is a good place to scope out the women and also down by the water fountain! But would have to disagree about TGIF having the coldest beer. Was convinced before that Lonestar had the coldest beer but I believe there is another contender. Liza's Sea Pub has beer so frosty, you can write your name on the bottle!

X Man
09-23-09, 16:46
Damn, Liza's was another place I seemed to miss on my last trip.

TGIF does have icy ones. I got hiccups drinking ....although I'm not sure if that is a result of the coldness.


Yes that area around TGIF is a good place to scope out the women and also down by the water fountain! But would have to disagree about TGIF having the coldest beer. Was convinced before that Lonestar had the coldest beer but I believe there is another contender. Liza's Sea Pub has beer so frosty, you can write your name on the bottle!

Lustforthrust
09-24-09, 16:31
I think you have the right attitude about chatting to girls, it doesnt really matter what you say to them so long as you approach them first. The opening line does not have to be witty or humorous and if I was back home doing this I can assure you I would not get anywhere. Seems to work fine for me in the Phillipines

Actually this works anywhere. "Playas" are everywhere.

Most men are pussies and can't approach women. When women talk about "confident" - they are referring these pussies.

And it doesn't take much talking either (smooth, suave, all that is just movies & music).

The problem as it were, is that you have to put up with stuff.
Some have bad breath but you can't not kiss her - women are big on this, part of their "foreplay" script.
You are expected to DATY (although she may not blow you) and many women do not drink enough water and that will manifest itself in her pussy. No amount of saliva will wash away that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-stained, sweaty crotch.
Some will have grey pubic-hair (very common amongst 30 year-olds in Hong Kong, given all that stress) and not shave. Can you put up with that?

Hookers are much easier - they shower, they blow you, they don't expect DATY (realize many here do, gosh!).

Sex should be about satisfaction for the male. What's all this making her cum shit? Do silver-backs sit around wondering whether he pleased his mate? Wolves, lions, bears, pre-historic man?

That's my 2 cents free.

The Rooster1
09-24-09, 18:16
Actually this works anywhere. "Playas" are everywhere.

Most men are pussies and can't approach women. When women talk about "confident". They are referring these pussies.

And it doesn't take much talking either (smooth, suave, all that is just movies & music).

The problem as it were, is that you have to put up with stuff. Some have bad breath but you can't not kiss her. Women are big on this, part of their "foreplay" script.

You are expected to DATY (although she may not blow you) and many women do not drink enough water and that will manifest itself in her pussy. No amount of saliva will wash away that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-stained, sweaty crotch.

Some will have grey pubic-hair (very common amongst 30 year-olds in Hong Kong, given all that stress) and not shave. Can you put up with that?

Hookers are much easier. They shower, they blow you, they don't expect DATY (realize many here do, gosh! ).

Sex should be about satisfaction for the male. What's all this making her cum shit? Do silver-backs sit around wondering whether he pleased his mate? Wolves, lions, bears, pre-historic man?

That's my 2 cents free.Some truth here about normal girls and picking them up. I'm not sure if the comments are based on Hong Kong girls, but almost all of the filipina's I pick up via: mall, airport, club, disco, best friends niece, old maid. Take care of themselves very good. Filipina's are notorious for being clean and taking care of themselves. They may not have a pot to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in, but their at the sorry sorry buying shampoo/conditioner packs. Have to disagree on that point. I dine out almost every girl I pick up. Always tasting good and clean. And always there to pleasure me, the man!

Peace out!

Wicked Roger
09-25-09, 11:38
So Cebu...a favourite place of mine especially when compared with Manila., more relaxed nice women and beaches that I like. Met SpamHog – great guy lots of good advice and very friendly (even saw one of Mrs SpamHog’s nieces). Sorry SH if I did not see her again and any grief you may/may not have got from Mrs SH but I know you understand the situation (and read why I missed Sunflower below) .Also met Ultra Pilot, nice fellow very busy as well LOL

This is Day 1 as I have done quite a bit this time in Cebu....;)

Stayed at the Parklane this time as got a great last minute rate via Agoda as normally I stay at the Marriott. Not a bad hotel, rooms small but that is no real issue and close to Ayala (3 minutes walk) so no complaints from me

Arrived early as was meeting a cutie from Mati (for those who say why, because she could not be doing what she does with me in Davao/Mati as she knows too many people and may see with me). But she missed her flight (why can’t Filipinas be punctual...but then are women generally on time...). So Plan B, was see my DIA friend, who is a 19 year old spinner, earlier than planned but try DIA first - again hit the jackpot on DIA with a lovely 18 year old. Again I just saw who was on line and this 18 year was.

Name is Miss A, not a WG just a lovely soft girl with a nice figure (see photos) and really enjoys sex... she loves it. She has only had one western guy before (again via DIA) and an ex Pinoy boyfriend and does this at times for cash. The Pinoy taught her so well as her BBBJ is excellent but that is he really taught and he left a lot to me...which I really enjoyed and she did too ;)

She was so nice, great BBBJ and great in the sack IMHO. Gentle to start and lots DATY (she really likes this seems the Pinoy never did and the her first customer did little)...I did a lot and was rewarded ;)

As I said, she is soft, no hard edges and very sweet, great DFK and so nice, just a lovely girl who need extra cash and likes older white guys. And had her first CIM and swallowed as well so who could complain....

And the icing on the cake..she entered the bedroom a 2 holer and left 2 hours later a 3 holer. :D....no real effort just was a nice guy and she agreed to try...and she did and she did a reverse cowgirl Greek for her deviriginisation (photos in the appropriate place). ATM of course- another first.

2000 pesos (maybe high but she was worth it) had to be home by 8pm as parents had curfew :) I have her contacts if you need and she would be well worth it as a change for the bar girls, now she does Greek and CIM as well but take it gentle chaps please... Will see her again before I leave Cebu

Evening was spent at Auto Stop with a 19 year old spinner and her 2 friends. I have known her via DIA for a long time and saw last time I was in Cebu. We YM chat a lot and SMS so we are regularly in contact despite her school classes. So cute and bubbly, wears heels as she is petite.

But...the things you do for pussy...well I really dislike karaoke (IMHO should have been strangled at birth), but when her shaved pussy is involved I went along with her and 2 friends (one being her cousin the shemale) and did it...sang a song and had fun so that I could have fun further back at the Parklane.

Paid the taxi for her friends and then back hotel for a lovely night, DFK, DATY BBBJ no Greek (am working on that) CIM etc. She loves to ride a cock so who am I to say no. A great fun girl one of my favourites and not a bar girl, no hard edges just likes a fun time.

So 2 girls, average age 18.5 years, really nice sweet girls and one got a nice lesson....cant be bad given I only had less than an hours sleep due to my antics in Manila...

X Man
09-25-09, 12:03
Wicked R, day one.

We hope you don't stay too long...you'll corrupt and/ or wear out all the girls of Cebu. Considering your reputation, there'll be nothing left for the rest of us. You are a wicked, wicked man.

X

Wicked Roger
09-25-09, 12:05
Wicked R, day one.

We hope you don't stay too long...you'll corrupt and/ or wear out all the girls of Cebu. Considering your reputation, there'll be nothing left for the rest of us. You are a wicked, wicked man.

X
There are plenty of lovely cuties here to corrupt I dont think I would ever leave...now there is a thought....:D

Wicked Roger
09-25-09, 12:29
Now I like Cebu and I like the malls better. As I was/am staying near the Ayala Mall it is nice to go there and wander, and smile etc see what you can do. Have done this on previous trips so this time I did a little but I had enough to keep me busy..in fact too many as all my plans were happening (a rarity when Filipinas are involved)

Day 2 was much like Day 1 but busier, juggling the texts the missed call etc and meeting Ultra Pilot – a great guy, decent respectful but very horny as well. Just like me...

After my spinner left for home, went to Bo's Coffee and met UP, as he was meeting some DIA girls we headed back to the Marriott and to bide the time before the girls arrived (they did not BTW a real pain) he got online and we swapped DIA handles and checked we had shagged the girls each of us was trying to date. In fact he had double booked so I gallantly took over as UP and saw the girl.

A cutie, shy and sweet fro SW University, but a little too shy, some kissing and fondling but not much else so a good choice UP, hope you do the same for me one day :) - an aside to this is she called me the next day (had no idea who she was as had deleted her numbers) and wanted to come and see me but I was busy  Maybe a change of heart who knows

So Day 2 was again to be more of the same, based on seeing DIA girls and I truly had some fun. Did not see Miss A this day (see below as saw her Day 3), but this time met up with the spinner again after I had paid for the shy girls taxi for some early afternoon fun (she had some classes later) and dinner with 2 cuties - one is DIA the other being her cousin from the provinces. Now this is reason why I could not see SpamHog – sorry about that

The girls were 22 and 26, the DIA girl a 36C and small, the cousins taller and darker and sexier looking for work in Cebu, both full of fun very bubbly and good conversationalists (I do like that in the Filipinas as their English tends to be good)

Now that the Terrace in Ayala has been finished this is a great place in the evening to wander with nice restaurant fairly inexpensive. Siam, Banana Leaf and Gerry’s Grill all very good but plenty more.

Went to Banana Leaf meal for 3 cost 1300 pesos including non alcoholic drinks, nice food nice waitress also....too many choices for my wandering eye....Our dinner conversation was 75% sex..about group sex, Greek, porno etc. They had seen porno (Redtube being their favourite) and wanted to know more about the things I do with swinger friends etc. Even had an in depth chat on girl/girl...

After that we went to yet another karaoke bar...:( but in hindsight was a great move) In the room (not in Mango another area that I have forgotten) they sang and dance I unzipped the big rack girls top and we generally had some touching and fondling..not too much did not want any trouble.

Back to the hotel and I showed then Redtube and they showed me their favourite clips :) , tried on some heels and micro minis I had (eventually gave them one each) and then of came the clothes and we had great night. Neither had ever done girl/girl so again my teaching skills were called upon to ‘educate’ them about the pleasure of this art form....and they seem to like it. I suggested that as homework they should do more when home...

DATY, DFK and BBBJ (2 girls on your todger is a great experience) then I took turns to shag them, had then both doggy style on the bed and I just took turns while I asked them to DFK each other...lovely night

No photos sorry but that was one thing they insisted upon so I relented as I am a gentleman ;)

They left then hotel a few hours later but called me as security would not them out as they did not know my t=room number or name!!!! I had forgotten the big rack girl’s name...but they eventually left and I had a few hours sleep before Day 3 began..with a spinner who wanted to become a model....

So more fun, no bars, just regular girls having fun with a naughty old man :D

Nvslim
09-26-09, 09:45
So 2 girls, average age 18.5 years, really nice sweet girls and one got a nice lesson....cant be bad given I only had less than an hours sleep due to my antics in Manila...



Sounds like a certain Rabbit. Glad you are having so much fun for an "old man".

Slim

Carmex
09-26-09, 14:07
Sounds like a certain Rabbit. Glad you are having so much fun for an "old man".

Slim

Whats with the "old man" shit? You only as old as you feel :). Although I been feeling a little old lately hehe. Guess I have to get back to the PI... Oh yea, will be there in 2 weeks! Yea!!

Thanks for the report WR, seems like my old days in Cebu. Should get down there again.

Sound7
09-26-09, 18:24
great report about Cebu activities.. What is DIA ?
thanks

So Cebu...a favourite place of mine especially when compared with Manila., more relaxed nice women and beaches that I like. Met SpamHog – great guy lots of good advice and very friendly (even saw one of Mrs SpamHog’s nieces). Sorry SH if I did not see her again and any grief you may/may not have got from Mrs SH but I know you understand the situation (and read why I missed Sunflower below) .Also met Ultra Pilot, nice fellow very busy as well LOL

This is Day 1 as I have done quite a bit this time in Cebu....;)

Stayed at the Parklane this time as got a great last minute rate via Agoda as normally I stay at the Marriott. Not a bad hotel, rooms small but that is no real issue and close to Ayala (3 minutes walk) so no complaints from me

Arrived early as was meeting a cutie from Mati (for those who say why, because she could not be doing what she does with me in Davao/Mati as she knows too many people and may see with me). But she missed her flight (why can’t Filipinas be punctual...but then are women generally on time...). So Plan B, was see my DIA friend, who is a 19 year old spinner, earlier than planned but try DIA first - again hit the jackpot on DIA with a lovely 18 year old. Again I just saw who was on line and this 18 year was.

Name is Miss A, not a WG just a lovely soft girl with a nice figure (see photos) and really enjoys sex... she loves it. She has only had one western guy before (again via DIA) and an ex Pinoy boyfriend and does this at times for cash. The Pinoy taught her so well as her BBBJ is excellent but that is he really taught and he left a lot to me...which I really enjoyed and she did too ;)

She was so nice, great BBBJ and great in the sack IMHO. Gentle to start and lots DATY (she really likes this seems the Pinoy never did and the her first customer did little)...I did a lot and was rewarded ;)

As I said, she is soft, no hard edges and very sweet, great DFK and so nice, just a lovely girl who need extra cash and likes older white guys. And had her first CIM and swallowed as well so who could complain....

And the icing on the cake..she entered the bedroom a 2 holer and left 2 hours later a 3 holer. :D....no real effort just was a nice guy and she agreed to try...and she did and she did a reverse cowgirl Greek for her deviriginisation (photos in the appropriate place). ATM of course- another first.

2000 pesos (maybe high but she was worth it) had to be home by 8pm as parents had curfew :) I have her contacts if you need and she would be well worth it as a change for the bar girls, now she does Greek and CIM as well but take it gentle chaps please... Will see her again before I leave Cebu

Evening was spent at Auto Stop with a 19 year old spinner and her 2 friends. I have known her via DIA for a long time and saw last time I was in Cebu. We YM chat a lot and SMS so we are regularly in contact despite her school classes. So cute and bubbly, wears heels as she is petite.

But...the things you do for pussy...well I really dislike karaoke (IMHO should have been strangled at birth), but when her shaved pussy is involved I went along with her and 2 friends (one being her cousin the shemale) and did it...sang a song and had fun so that I could have fun further back at the Parklane.

Paid the taxi for her friends and then back hotel for a lovely night, DFK, DATY BBBJ no Greek (am working on that) CIM etc. She loves to ride a cock so who am I to say no. A great fun girl one of my favourites and not a bar girl, no hard edges just likes a fun time.

So 2 girls, average age 18.5 years, really nice sweet girls and one got a nice lesson....cant be bad given I only had less than an hours sleep due to my antics in Manila...

Run Mann
09-26-09, 19:44
What is DIA ?
thanks

www.dateinasia.com

Wicked Roger
09-27-09, 11:39
Last day in Cebu and I truly needed some rest as was dog tired, shagged out but in the interests of ‘research’ got up early to meet another DIA girl who asked me to sponsor her to be a model.. Real spinner, 19 years old XS size, 35/36 size shoes slim and sweet.

Now I had packed a few ‘accessories’ before I Ieft like butt plus, lube, anal beads plus FM heeled shoes, stockings and micro minis all size for the Filipinas as I only go for that sort of girl.

She came initially with her brother (younger) who was fine, goth look a like but a nice kid who sat and watched while sister and I chatted .Then we agreed I was a decent gentleman and she sent brother home (well I paid the taxi) and we went upstairs to try on some sexy clothes. A few photos not many and no face for this one as she is not P4P but shows what you can do if you strike it lucky. She looked so horny in black stocking and heels. Once we had that posing done down to business, she is so slim I could pick her up and shag her standing...lovely. DFK, DATY and BBBJ no Greek but I had that covered (see later ;)). Just a nice girl who wanted to meet a nice guy. I took her Ayala later, bought her some sexy outfits (cost less than 1500 pesos) and she was so happy. Can’t see her again as had plans already for the rest of the day

After Miss Model in Waiting let, I called Miss A again as I so much enjoyed her the first time. Within 30 minutes she was naked in my room and this time she was introduced to butt plugs and anal beads (see the photos), more Greek, in fact a lot of Greek. Multiple shots no rushing just happy to be with me which was so nice – a nice warm feeling. More DFK (very good), lots DATY (really worth it) and many positions, had her while she wore the outfits too (another first for her) followed by some COF or CIM and she chose (well students can make choices)

Another first was I slapped her backside mildly while she sat in top riding to her hearts content. She then said she liked that I gave a good hard spanking (see pictures of her red backside) and that made her come. Said she had never tried it before (whatever!) but it certainly made her hornier and she was whispering in my ear for a harder slapping of her wonderful buttocks...being a gentleman I could not refuse :)

We had great conversations in between rounds while she stroked me and had a very pleasant few hours together. Again 2000 pesos (sorry guys but she is a sweetie) and then promise of dinner with her wearing the mini skirt and heels. Later she called off as her curfew is 8pm, which I knew, and her mother would not extend it even for a nice man like me. She is available to meet older white guys and I have her contacts for anyone visiting Cebu who does not want to go to the bars...but she likes her rewards so I hope I have not spoiled her too much (well likely I have with he Greek and toys...:))

After this I received a text and call from a number I did not recognise..only because I had deleted it the other. It was the DIA girl I took over from UP as he was double booked. She now wanted to see me and was skipping class and coming to the hotel as she wanted to meet me again. But...she got busted by a teacher so went back to class before the taxi was found :( so another time...one for the future/next visit

Saw my 19 year old spinner in between everything esle, she came over and we had some great DFK DATY BBBJ and everything else. Next time we will have longer - a combination of her school and studies and my other interests made it hard to meet up for long periods...but I think I adequately made use of my free time:)

So rested, went to Ayala and wandered around. Some nice places to eat there now and I never went anywhere near SM Mall this time. Chose Gilligan’s as the lead singer is another DIA and she invited me to come along but while she was very nice looking was not in the mood and very shagged out..plus I had a 4am start the next morning. UP joined me at the restaurant and then we went for wander, chatted about the girls we had seen, swapped stories, got a coffee and then bade farewell. See you again UP keep in touch!

Back at hotel and was packing when the 2 girls from yesterday called and invited themselves over for pizza......so this meant limited rest for me again....so I thought about it (not for very long) and they came over. Some pics (non nude) this time and they were great fun, we ate pizza (Yellow Cab excellent) and chatted and played, IO got 30 minutes cat nap and them to air[port

Cebu is a place I like, not to small not too big and I had fun so will revisit again soon I hope.

Wicked Roger
09-27-09, 11:48
Just my very quick and short impressions on Cebu – very general and everyone can say differently.

As I have stated I like the city, I like the Cebuanas. Since the Terrace at Ayala has been finished this has made the place a wonderful environment to sit, eat and watch. And pull the girls if that is your intention. Restaurants like Lemon Grass, Banana Leaf, Gerry Grill, Gilligan’s, various cafes and coffee shops meant I did not venture to SM Mall this time...unusually for me.

Although I was in Cebu to see a specific lady I was able to see others as well and the Parklane hotel like all others is so GF. The security guy just smiled when girl number 4 came the same day. Parklane is a nice place, well located, rooms are fine (Marriot IMHO is better) and more importantly the price was good (vi Agoda )

Never got the chance to go to the beaches as I was somewhat pre occupied but I must next time. Girls I saw were lovely and accommodating even for a dirty kinky old monger like me.

I have other contacts of DIA girls who would see you for a fee (naturally) so if anyone is interested just PM and I can send the details. All nice I just an out of time.....

Even had a bizarre moment with UP of chasing girls via DIA while comparing notes on each others contacts...thanks UP had a good time and hope the rest of visit is as successful

So all in all a nice break and wish I had more time. Should do what UP is doing and stay a couple of weeks and really know the place.

Mjolnir 213
09-27-09, 13:39
Just my very quick and short impressions on Cebu – very general and everyone can say differently.

As I have stated I like the city, I like the Cebuanas. Since the Terrace at Ayala has been finished this has made the place a wonderful environment to sit, eat and watch. And pull the girls if that is your intention. Restaurants like Lemon Grass, Banana Leaf, Gerry Grill, Gilligan’s, various cafes and coffee shops meant I did not venture to SM Mall this time...unusually for me.

Although I was in Cebu to see a specific lady I was able to see others as well and the Parklane hotel like all others is so GF. The security guy just smiled when girl number 4 came the same day. Parklane is a nice place, well located, rooms are fine (Marriot IMHO is better) and more importantly the price was good (vi Agoda )

Never got the chance to go to the beaches as I was somewhat pre occupied but I must next time. Girls I saw were lovely and accommodating even for a dirty kinky old monger like me.

I have other contacts of DIA girls who would see you for a fee (naturally) so if anyone is interested just PM and I can send the details. All nice I just an out of time.....

Even had a bizarre moment with UP of chasing girls via DIA while comparing notes on each others contacts...thanks UP had a good time and hope the rest of visit is as successful

So all in all a nice break and wish I had more time. Should do what UP is doing and stay a couple of weeks and really know the place.

Seems like you are having a great time there WR. Not surprised!

Me... still holding the fort here and trying to keep things uncomplicated. (Difficult at the moment!)

:)


WB

Fal88
09-28-09, 17:48
Going to Cebu soon.. looking for a hotel recommendation.

Cheap, in the middle of the action, NO BUGS. Wireless in the lobby or room would be nice, as would a TV... but no requirement.

Have these on my list right now:
Castle Peak Hotel
Richmond Plaza Gotel
Century Hotel
Cebu View Tourist Inn
GV Tower Hotel (next to uni)
Pacific Pensionne
Kiwi Lodge
Diplomat Hotel

The cheaper the better, but I do want a certain. Standard.

Which ones should I put on the top of the list? Which ones should I skip? Did I miss any?

Also. How does tipping work in the Philippines? Am I supposed to tip the security guy? If so. HOW? Just walk up to him and give him 500 peso? (is 500 enough? )

Oh, and what does a day pass to the waterfront hotels pool cost?

The Rooster1
09-29-09, 01:02
Going to Cebu soon.. looking for a hotel recommendation.

Cheap, in the middle of the action, NO BUGS. Wireless in the lobby or room would be nice, as would a TV... but no requirement.

Have these on my list right now:
Castle Peak Hotel
Richmond Plaza Gotel
Century Hotel
Cebu View Tourist Inn
GV Tower Hotel (next to uni)
Pacific Pensionne
Kiwi Lodge
Diplomat Hotel

The cheaper the better, but I do want a certain. Standard.

Which ones should I put on the top of the list? Which ones should I skip? Did I miss any?

Also. How does tipping work in the Philippines? Am I supposed to tip the security guy? If so. HOW? Just walk up to him and give him 500 peso? (is 500 enough? )

Oh, and what does a day pass to the waterfront hotels pool cost?500 Peso's? They are going to like you. It's up to you but why are you tipping the security guy so much?

As far as hotels, I would put Golden Prince close to the top of that list at about 25-50 you. S a day depending on your type of room. A couple good bars right there, a couple minutes from Ayalla Mall and a couple minutes from Mango bars. The room is clean, refrigerator, wireless internet in the rooms and the longer you stay there, the better room and price you get. Just my opinion. Good luck and spend some time going back and reading the reports. Some excellent advice to get from some pretty experienced Mongers.

Peace out!

X Man
09-29-09, 04:12
Holiday Plaza, Eddies, Mango are centrally located. Kiwi Lodge -- you'll need taxi to get anywhere, but has a nice friendly atmosphere in the spacious restaurant/bar/pool room. I rarely tip security, although everyone will expect a tip around Christmas. If they hail a cab for me, or do something extra I give them 10 or 20 pesos. Hotel contact info below:

Cebu Hotels area code 032
West Gorordo
http://www.westgorordohotel.com/

Mango Park Hotel, 032 233 1511 / 233 5679
07.07 paid 1350

Northwinds Hotel – past Waterfront / cheap
233 0311-13
Crowne Garden Hotel on Salinas St. 1300 incl breakfast
Waterfront, nice pool, check out H2O club 232 6888 $100 / 4475 pesos

Richmond Plaza Hotel, 232-4613 (-18) richmondhotelcebu@yahoo.com
Lahug on gororodo, facelift for ASEAN summit 2006 http://www.richmondhotelcebu.com/

Castle Peak Hotel http://www.castlepeakhotel.net/

Cebu Grand Hotel, near Capital 1600 to 4200 / roof pool / 254 6331 / 6361/ 6362 info@cebugrandhotel.com www.cebugrandhotel.com About 2000 pesos? as of 2008

Cebu Midtown Hotel 63 32 253-9711 P2500 12.07

GV Tower Hotel (downtown) www.gvhotelgroup.com info@gvhotelgroup.com 416-0000 / 253-6518
Hotel de Mercedes 253 1105 hoteldemercedes.com

Rajah Park Hotel (032) 412 3337 / 412 4850 Some rooms no windows. Rates start at 1500, incl breakfast

Holiday Plaza (032) 254 9880 holiday@holidayplazacebu.com
www.holidayplazacebu.com Superior 1900 / Biz class 2300 / Exec 3300 good buffet breakfast included

Hotel le Carmen, near net café, 255 6366/67 P1000 to 1450 large room is better

Diplomat Hotel, 90 F. Ramos Street 032 253 0099 diplomathotel@yahoo.com
prices 1200- 2,500 (suite in new wing), clean, some rooms have nice views www.diplomathotel.com.ph

Kiwi Lodge 1060 G. Tudtud Street, Mabolo 032 232 9550 kiwilodge@pacific.net.ph 850-1250

LS 2 pension house, Junquera Ext. 254-8406 / 259-0826 P600 / no guests

Casa Rosario, 101-E Ramon Aboitiz St. 255 0525 / 256 2225 / 253 5134 www.casarosario.net 1000-1300

Kan Irag Hotel 253 1151 (-57) under P1000 kanhotel@pop.cebu.pw.net.ph

Hotel Asia, down a side street opposite Doctor’s college, 11 Don Jose Avila St.
032 255 8536 / P1200 to 3k incl. breakfast / Japanese focus/ hotelasia@pldtdsl.net
hotelasiacebu.com / nice rooms, exec has desk and sofa for 2500

Westpoint Inn www.westpointinn-cebu.com ne of Osmena Rotunda
Cebu Grand Hotel www.cebugrandhotel.com

Mactan Hotels
Bella Vista and Cesario have free airport transfer and use xenios@mozcom.com
Bella Vista 032 340 7821 P1500 www.thebellavistahotel.com
Hotel Cesario, incl breakfast 340 0211 / 254 9880 ??? www.hotelcesario.com

Cebu Beach Club , Buyong, Lapu Lapu $55 340 7994 032 495 7717 cbclub@mozcom.com
Alegre beach www.alegrebeach.com.ph
Pacific Cebu Resort, Japanese mgmt
Cebu marine Beach Resort 1500 pesos 032 340 5727 suite 4680
Crowne Regency Princevilla / 2400-4000 Very good swimmimg pool, good coffee shop



Going to Cebu soon.. looking for a hotel recommendation.

Cheap, in the middle of the action, NO BUGS. Wireless in the lobby or room would be nice, as would a TV... but no requirement.

Have these on my list right now:
Castle Peak Hotel
Richmond Plaza Gotel
Century Hotel
Cebu View Tourist Inn
GV Tower Hotel (next to uni)
Pacific Pensionne
Kiwi Lodge
Diplomat Hotel

The cheaper the better, but I do want a certain. Standard.

Which ones should I put on the top of the list? Which ones should I skip? Did I miss any?

Also. How does tipping work in the Philippines? Am I supposed to tip the security guy? If so. HOW? Just walk up to him and give him 500 peso? (is 500 enough? )

Oh, and what does a day pass to the waterfront hotels pool cost?

Key Master
09-29-09, 11:50
Going to Cebu soon.. looking for a hotel recommendation.

Cheap, in the middle of the action, NO BUGS. Wireless in the lobby or room would be nice, as would a TV... but no requirement.

Have these on my list right now:
Castle Peak Hotel
Richmond Plaza Gotel
Century Hotel
Cebu View Tourist Inn
GV Tower Hotel (next to uni)
Pacific Pensionne
Kiwi Lodge
Diplomat Hotel

The cheaper the better, but I do want a certain. Standard.

Which ones should I put on the top of the list? Which ones should I skip? Did I miss any?

Also. How does tipping work in the Philippines? Am I supposed to tip the security guy? If so. HOW? Just walk up to him and give him 500 peso? (is 500 enough? )

Oh, and what does a day pass to the waterfront hotels pool cost?

Dude, I'm sorry. Your first post is kind of confusing. You say you want cheap, but are asking if 500 pesos is enough to tip security. What's your level of traveling and mongering? And have you read the threads thoroughly? Standards? And you are asking about pension houses? Really, I'm not trying to rip you, but you have a lot of conflicting statements so it's confusing me and maybe others.

Carmex
09-29-09, 14:28
Gentlemen,

I am supposed to be returning to PI on Oct. 16-19. Not sure where to go, but am thinking of Cebu as I really like it there as well (see old reports-Viking Bar).

Stayed at Holiday Plaza and had a blast even ventured out to Alona Kew beach for some fun, but the chick really sucked big time (thanks FH) and only stayed for a few days.

Will be going with two newbies with no idea about the scene. Both seem pretty cool, but I know I will be taking a big risk. One is a Filipino guy, speaks Tagalog, but raised in USA and never been to Phils even though his dad and family are in Luzon. He really looks more Spanish than Filipino, but both assure me they want to party. :)

Usually I would take my newbies to Angeles for the breaking in proper, but maybe we start off easy for the sake of emotional security.

Thinking I might take WR up on his contact info offering. Anyone else down there want to join me for a drink, PM me.

I could call this girl from Tacloban who is spoken for but wants to set me up with endless supply of fresh Leyte pussy. Not sure what to do but I do have good memories of Cebu. Like WR, I like the city, not too big or too small, and some good people down there.

Any input on taking newbies to PI?

Almost forgot, a day pass to the waterfront pool is somewhere around 20-30$ USD. If I remember correctly. They have casino there, but if I remember my thoughts were that it was not worth it. Plus get ready for the Korean invasion while there. (Too many young screaming kids for me).

Fal88
09-29-09, 16:56
Dude, I'm sorry. Your first post is kind of confusing. You say you want cheap, but are asking if 500 pesos is enough to tip security. What's your level of traveling and mongering? And have you read the threads thoroughly? Standards? And you are asking about pension houses? Really, I'm not trying to rip you, but you have a lot of conflicting statements so it's confusing me and maybe others.Sorry. Cheap when it comes to hotel room = 1000-1750 peso

As for the tip, was thinking "one time thing"; thats why I asked. I have _NO_ idea how much to tip people generally, since in the country where I'm from. We don't tip, anywhere.

Vandaddio
09-30-09, 06:00
3 more weeks before blast off. Manilla for a night then straight to cebu.

Will be hunting for spinner mulatto chicks, and or squirters will get extra big tip. I have had a couple GF's that squirt and if you have not had the experience with one, get it. Its pretty awesome. But I have yet to find a asian chick who can squirt.

Any recommendations for a bungalow style resort on the beach around cebu?

Maybe something 5-10 minute taxi ride out of town. I hear there are nice beaches in the area and want to stay there and hang out in the day and do my biz on computer and head into town for night life. A place with wifi would be the first choice.

Thanks dudes.

Any suggestions for bringing trinkets for the lbfm's, cheap perfume? Silk panties? I suppose its all cheap over there and cheaper. From canada its like maple syrup and moose meat and smoked salmon, hehehe.

Spry Man
09-30-09, 13:09
20-30 dollars for a day pass to the Waterfront pool is a bit steep. My advice would be to go to the gym there. 400 odd pesos for the gym and access to the pool is included!

Buko Max
10-01-09, 00:38
20-30 dollars for a day pass to the Waterfront pool is a bit steep.!
Your right! Don't know where Carmex got his info but it is only 200 php. Sometimes they run a promo and it is free!

Buko Max
10-01-09, 00:48
Any recommendations for a bungalow style resort on the beach around cebu?
If you are referring to accomadations on Mactan, not many bungalows out there. Try going north towards Carmen or south past Naga.

GregLondon
10-01-09, 04:55
Forget about tipping securtity guard 500. 10-20P if they do something like carry bags to taxi etc is enough but not essential.

Pacific Pensionne is a nice pension about 800P free wifi in lobby, but the rooms are pretty basic. If you are a backpacker and just want somewhere to sleep its fine, but if you are going to be enjoying alot of girls, much better to spend 1500-2000 for a decent hotel room. I stayed at the Mango Park about 1600-1800 P for standard/"delux". Because it was the only mid priced place I could find with a swimming pool and free wifi in the room. There are other hotels with smarter room for a little less momney but typically they will charge 50-100P an hour for wifi. If you end up using wifi alot this makes a big difference.







Going to Cebu soon.. looking for a hotel recommendation.

Cheap, in the middle of the action, NO BUGS. Wireless in the lobby or room would be nice, as would a TV... but no requirement.

Have these on my list right now:
Castle Peak Hotel
Richmond Plaza Gotel
Century Hotel
Cebu View Tourist Inn
GV Tower Hotel (next to uni)
Pacific Pensionne
Kiwi Lodge
Diplomat Hotel

The cheaper the better, but I do want a certain. Standard.

Which ones should I put on the top of the list? Which ones should I skip? Did I miss any?

Also. How does tipping work in the Philippines? Am I supposed to tip the security guy? If so. HOW? Just walk up to him and give him 500 peso? (is 500 enough? )

Oh, and what does a day pass to the waterfront hotels pool cost?

Brymor
10-01-09, 18:16
3 more weeks before blast off. Manilla for a night then straight to cebu.

Any suggestions for bringing trinkets for the lbfm's, cheap perfume? Silk panties? I suppose its all cheap over there and cheaper. From canada its like maple syrup and moose meat and smoked salmon, hehehe.

Chocolate is always a huge favourite and will always be gratefully accepted by any girl you meet. The other items I bring are cheap cell phones, again a big hit with the girls. Cell phones can be bought new in my country for around 12-15 dollars and the girls will be extra grateful if you hand one of these over as a gift. I normally bring half a dozen cell phones and unless the girl is working in a bar or has a good job they will usually have a very basic out of date model, or even one borrowed from another family member. I save these for the special ones that perform beyond expectations or those I really want to see again.

It is nearly three weeks since I was in Cebu and since I have got back home I have spent all my time thinking about going back. Things got the better of me the other night whilst enjoying a glass or two of my favourite wine and I ended up booking another flight at the end of November, sadly only for two weeks. I look forward to adding some more reports although I will be spending most of my time with one or two regular gf's.

Wicked Roger
10-01-09, 18:26
Chocolate is always a huge favourite and will always be gratefully accepted by any girl you meet. The other items I bring are cheap cell phones, again a big hit with the girls. Cell phones can be bought new in my country for around 12-15 dollars and the girls will be extra grateful if you hand one of these over as a gift. I normally bring half a dozen cell phones and unless the girl is working in a bar or has a good job they will usually have a very basic out of date model, or even one borrowed from another family member. I save these for the special ones that perform beyond expectations or those I really want to see again.

It is nearly three weeks since I was in Cebu and since I have got back home I have spent all my time thinking about going back. Things got the better of me the other night whilst enjoying a glass or two of my favourite wine and I ended up booking another flight at the end of November, sadly only for two weeks. I look forward to adding some more reports although I will be spending most of my time with one or two regular gf's.


Good advice M.

I buy the large slabs of Cadburys chocolate (or failing that Swiss chocolate like Milka or Lindt) as the girls are somewhat brand focused. Also many think Hersheys is not chocolate (IMHO I agree with them).

Mobiles are great, some would prefer one with a camera but many are grateful for a new phone not one held together by duct tape and I tend to give those to non bar girls I meet and like.

Cheap perfume can be bought where I live and took with me some Vicoria Secrets (price equivalent Euro 15) and again gratefully received.

I also bought one girl some very sexy VS lingerie and some Honour (UK) kinky wear but then she is a tad special and looks an 11 when she wears it with the heels and stockings but that is an exception to the rule - no photos sorry she not for sharing

Others like to be taken to SM Mall and be bought a few simple, cheap clothes, cheap and cheerful they maybe but makes them happy and love you more ;)

Carmex
10-01-09, 23:28
Your right! Don't know where Carmex got his info but it is only 200 php. Sometimes they run a promo and it is free!

well, obviously I got my info from BEING there!!! Sounds like I got ripped off when I went, and it wasn't even for the entire day, half of the pool was under repair, and the exposed sewer line smelled like, well, exposed sewer line.

I'm guessing this was about 1 yr ago, so prices may have come down.

As for 20-30 USD sounding steep, um, yea, I was like, "Yea that sounds a bit steep to me also!!!" But the girl I was with wanted to go, so we went.

We were not staying at the hotel, so maybe that contributed the price as well. Nice towels though and the drinks were about 4-5 USD a drink.

I guess the term YMMV applies.

Fal88
10-02-09, 22:27
Okay, thanks

Last question - I'm supposed to get a double room if I plan on seeing girls, right?

I mean, getting a single room and having girls over every night would be bad?

Cuba Tourist
10-03-09, 04:10
I stayed at the Mango Park but did not like it. It does have a small pool on the roof.

Key Master
10-03-09, 09:58
okay, thanks

last question - i'm supposed to get a double room if i plan on seeing girls, right?

i mean, getting a single room and having girls over every night would be bad?

man, i never do that. in the pi i haven't had any issues like that but i'm sure there are some places. as was mentioned, you might want to bump up your price level if you want standards. i didn't like the pension places. hotels are not good values in the pi except maybe in angeles. i stay at holiday plaza and it's about 2000 pesos a night, comes with kind of a crappy breakfast buffet for 2. the internet is like 100 pesos an hour or you can buy a bigger card for more of a discounted rate. the speed was real fast for me wifi wise. my personal experience is that you get more time on the card than advertised. my last trip in march i had a couple of cockroaches but it didn't bother me much. i just left there and didn't see any. it's pretty quiet there so sleeping is easier if you are a light sleeper and it's in a good location. easy to walk to the little mall and a little more walk but really not a big deal walk to mango bars. i walk it all the time, but for some reason the little mob kids are getting pretty aggressive near the area of julianna's at night.

also, the diplomat is just a little farther down the street and i believe is cheaper and people recommend it here. i didn't care for it. i thought it was noisier and had other issues. you could probably compare the two if you had to. holiday plaza pretty much never sells out. they tried to put me in a smoking room last week and it was pretty bad. the non smoking room was by far better.

Buko Max
10-07-09, 01:27
As for 20-30 USD sounding steep, um, yea, I was like, "Yea that sounds a bit steep to me also!!!" But the girl I was with wanted to go, so we went.
Another nice alternative is out on Mactan at the Shangri-La.
For around 30 USD, you get the use of the pools, private beach and a lunch buffet. Nice place for a day trip!

Kreole
10-10-09, 19:12
I am going to the Philippines for the first time and will land in Cebu City in mid November. After purchasing my plane ticket I find out that Filipinos are some of the noisiest people on the planet, inconsiderate of neighbors, etc. Kind of like the Caribbean. So, I am wanting to find a hotel or pension that is safe, clean, secure, with at least a little peace. I am told Uptown is best. I am not looking for a hostel or backpacker's stay. I would like a nice room with private bath, aircon, comfortable. I would like to pay between $15-$20 range. Does anyone have suggestions?

Since I plan to stay in Cebu for a week or so, I would like to know of the best places to pick up Filipinas, where I might find the most available at a reasonable price of not more than $30 US. I am a short timer, 2-3 hours, so I hope to have some locations to visit before diving in. In addition I really like morning and afternoon action. I like to sleep at night. Thanks for all replies.

Mantid
10-11-09, 02:49
Am in Cebu for a few days. Any mongerers in town interested in hooking up to compare notes let me know.

Fal88
10-11-09, 11:08
Well. Been here a while now

So far.

Richmond Hotel. What a dump, roaches and wall lice.

Cebu Grand Hotel. Nice room, but there's a ****ing rooster outside my window waking me up at 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 am

Eddie's Hotel. Seems nicer. Rooms are tiled, so should be easier to keep clean than those carpets or dirty cheapo plywood tiles they use at other places.

Even though I read over 70% of this thread I still managed to do the standard newbie mistakes. "need to pay my rent before moving back to the province tomorrow", ya right.

General observations, entire group generalized into one rating. The "normal" girls in for example the Ayala Mall are about a 6-7 (on a 1-10 scale) The bargirls are about 7-8.

The girls that tend to the stores in the Ayala Mall are like 9-10 on the scale. How come? They're ALL amazingly hot. Is it "acceptable" to just walk up to one of them while they're working and asking them out for dinner/drinks/whatever when their shift is over?

Oh. And the receptionist at eddies hotel, April. Anyone know anything about her? She is so amazingly cute.

X Man
10-11-09, 12:49
Yes sir. We'll look into this promptly. Any other requests sir?


I am going to the Philippines for the first time and will land in Cebu City in mid November. After purchasing my plane ticket I find out that Filipinos are some of the noisiest people on the planet, inconsiderate of neighbors, etc. Kind of like the Caribbean. So, I am wanting to find a hotel or pension that is safe, clean, secure, with at least a little peace. I am told Uptown is best. I am not looking for a hostel or backpacker's stay. I would like a nice room with private bath, aircon, comfortable. I would like to pay between $15-$20 range. Does anyone have suggestions?

Since I plan to stay in Cebu for a week or so, I would like to know of the best places to pick up Filipinas, where I might find the most available at a reasonable price of not more than $30 US. I am a short timer, 2-3 hours, so I hope to have some locations to visit before diving in. In addition I really like morning and afternoon action. I like to sleep at night. Thanks for all replies.

Stroker Ace88
10-11-09, 15:47
I am going to the Philippines for the first time and will land in Cebu City in mid November. After purchasing my plane ticket I find out that Filipinos are some of the noisiest people on the planet, inconsiderate of neighbors, etc. Kind of like the Caribbean. So, I am wanting to find a hotel or pension that is safe, clean, secure, with at least a little peace.

Wow, with an attitude like that I can envision a very bad time in Cebu and a negative post trip report, but I don't think you will even bother to post one. It seems to me that you want the Philippines to fit you, without you even trying to fit into the Philippines and IMHO this will never work no matter where you go in the World. I think X-Man was on the mark with his response to you sir.



I am told Uptown is best. I am not looking for a hostel or backpacker's stay. I would like a nice room with private bath, aircon, comfortable. I would like to pay between $15-$20 range. Does anyone have suggestions?

First I would highly suggest you RTFF before posting and use the search funtion, but I can tell you clearly did not pay attention during the pre-flight safety instructions and now you just jumped out of the plane with no parachute, so here goes.

Go to asiarooms.com, asiatravel.com or agoda.com and search for hotels in Cebu that meet your requirements on both location and price. This list will be small to non-existant to say the least. Figure on paying around $25-$50US per night for a "nice room" as you call it. Once you have the list then come back here and use the search funtion of this forum to read what other members have posted about the hotels you are interested in. If you don't see any comments or posts about your potential lodging, then feel free to post a few questions.


Since I plan to stay in Cebu for a week or so, I would like to know of the best places to pick up Filipinas, where I might find the most available at a reasonable price of not more than $30 US. I am a short timer, 2-3 hours, so I hope to have some locations to visit before diving in. In addition I really like morning and afternoon action. I like to sleep at night. Thanks for all replies.
Well, if you can't find any useful information on this thread or the "Chat Room and Pen Pals" thread, then you are going to have a lonely week in Cebu and I think AC would be a more suitable location.

Stroker Ace88
10-11-09, 16:10
Okay, thanks

Last question - I'm supposed to get a double room if I plan on seeing girls, right?

I mean, getting a single room and having girls over every night would be bad?

I book my hotel rooms online usually with asiatravel.com and if the double room tab is available I always check it. The price does not change if you book the same room for one or two people, so it never hurts to select it.

One added bonus when you book a room for two will be if your hotel serves a free buffet breakfast. If you booked the room for two you will get two breakfast tickets for each day upon checkin, not just one. That way if you want to keep your girl around for a longer stay, or if you just want to make her happy by sending her home with a smile on her face and some food in her stomach, this will work wonders. And it will not cost you anything extra.

Wicked Roger
10-11-09, 16:13
Wow, with an attitude like that I can envision a very bad time in Cebu and a negative post trip report, but I don't think you will even bother to post one.
Stroker...why are you so kind when a RTFF or worse will do.

Obviously Kreole has a problem doing anything for himself...maybe he is bringing his mother along to tie his shoelaces and make sure his underwear is clean :D

But your tips are fair Stroker

Jambo
10-11-09, 17:12
RTFF = Read the Fucking Forums (i knew he was going to ask anyway)

And when you get back Kreole, you have an obligation to provide a report on your activities, prices, scams etc. Pictures would help.

It certainly is a courtesy to book rooms for 2 people. If they charge more, its only fair if you are bringing girls in and they will use the towels and the tp etc. Certainly heads off embarrassment and the feeling you are sneaking in the poontang. If they ask for a name I just give Mrs. Jambo.

I am planning a move to the PI and have taken the time to read the entire "Living in the Philippines" thread. Although some guys are humble and suggest other places for that kind of information, I've noticed a lot of savvy businessmen post here, and have good tips. I have no idea why successful business types would hang out in a place like this...

Fal88
10-12-09, 08:05
Cancel what I said about Eddies hotel... rooms are okay, but... the water in the sink is warm, and the water in shower is ICE COLD.

Sigh. Search goes on!

Wicked Roger
10-12-09, 09:05
I've noticed a lot of savvy businessmen post here, and have good tips. I have no idea why successful business types would hang out in a place like this...
Jambo

They are dirty minded kinky and love shaved Filipina pussy :D Well that likely describes me :D

GoodEnough
10-12-09, 10:43
Is there something about "successful businessmen" and sex that's mutually exclusive. I sure hope not and if there is, please do not tell me.

FreebieFan
10-13-09, 05:26
Jambo

They are dirty minded kinky and love shaved Filipina pussy :D Well that likely describes me :DMe too. And the richer I get, the more pussy I want as compensation the early morning conference calls, the early flights etc.

Camy9000
10-14-09, 22:01
Hi guys just wanting some advice about Cebu.

I would like to visit the Philippines for possibly a month on my Tour of south east Asia.

I would like to know if it easy to meet girls in Cebu in other enviroments than gogo bars (I'm not a big drinker but like dancing), I'm 28 and ok looking not that I think I'm brad Pitt and am up my own ass.

And know I will expect to pay in some way or the other, I just would like a change from Thailand and find the Philippine girls look sexier to me than the Thai ladys (my personal opinion) or should I just stay in Thailand and not bother coming even though I will be in Thailand for a month before I plan to go to Cebu.

Any advice sorry if spelling and punctuation is shit.

Thanks!

Stroker Ace88
10-15-09, 01:17
I am just wondering if anyone has checked this place out recently. One of the girls that I chat with lives in Cebu City and hinted that she would like me to take her to a go-go club one day. So the gentlemen that I am offered to take her to a bar or two on Mango Avenue, but she did not like that idea, and suggested maybe Mermaids in Lapu-Lapu instead incase someone she knew saw her at a bar close to home.

I pass by the club each time I am on my way from the airport, but I have never stopped to visit. Does anyone know if they will charge me an entrance fee of 200P for the girl "guest" as one older post indicates? What's the barfine prices and the quantity and quality of the girls, and lastly I read in the Cebu archives there used to be the regular Mermaides go-go bar where you can barfine girls, but upstairs there was a male go-go bar. Was this setup at the old Mermaides location or is it still around? My girl also mentioned something about wanting to bring a few of her friends and I am thinking if I can go downstairs and give them a few drinks then upstairs to get them horny I might just get them all into my bed before the evening is over.

Starchild2012
10-15-09, 06:22
Hi guys just wanting some advice about Cebu.

I would like to visit the Philippines for possibly a month on my Tour of south east Asia.

I would like to know if it easy to meet girls in Cebu in other enviroments than gogo bars (I'm not a big drinker but like dancing), I'm 28 and ok looking not that I think I'm brad Pitt and am up my own ass.

And know I will expect to pay in some way or the other, I just would like a change from Thailand and find the Philippine girls look sexier to me than the Thai ladys (my personal opinion) or should I just stay in Thailand and not bother coming even though I will be in Thailand for a month before I plan to go to Cebu.

Any advice sorry if spelling and punctuation is shit.

Thanks!

Here is a post which compares both Thailand and PH I copied a while ago from other monger in a different site. Hope it helps. You could score from dating sites, if you stay here long enough, no issues.

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Gents - I've spent the last 3 years traveling back and forth to Thailand and the Phils on business / pleasure trips with recon intent to find a place to live over there, and have boiled the pros / cons down to the following:

THE SEX - Both Thai and Filipina pussy is excellent, but I have found that Filipinas genuinely enjoy sex more and cum harder and easier than their Thai counterparts. So, one point for the Phils.

LIFESTYLE - Thailand of course has a much better physical infrastructure and orderliness about it, and the food is unbeatable. Ease of traveling with that great new airport is also a plus. One point for Thailand.

HOTELS - I routinely stay at 5-star properties via agoda.com for around 70 USD / night in BKK with cheap room service. My favorite hotel in Makati is the Pen, but can't ever get any deals under 150 USD / night, plus they dick the hell out of you for extras. One point for Thailand.

RENTAL APARTMENTS / HOUSES - The low cost for hotel rooms in BKK is obviously due to overbuilding, but not so with condos and villas, which are usually 20% smaller than Makati properties and 30% more expensive per month, so one point for the Phils.

TAXES - Being ASEAN members, both coutries are basically even on paper, but the Phils Tax Code has many more loopholes and deduction opportunities, meaning that, if you have a good accountant, his or her fees will be the biggest line item you ever pay. The government bean-counters in Thailand are setup similarly to our IRS, and tend to be far too Gestapo-like for my taste. One point (a big one, in my opinion) for the Phils.

CULTURE - Thais always talk about their "happy culture" and the peacefulness of their Theravada Buddhism, while at the same time deriding the "barbarism" of the West. Regardless of how one feels about this, the glaring schizophrenia (one minute contentedly praying to the Buddha, the next throwing molotov cocktails at troops guarding the airport) that each of them exhibits is simply something that this logically-minded American can't ignore... nor tolerate. At least the Filipinos know and openly discuss the fact that their country is fucked up, and don't try to hide behind the bullshit "Sawasdee" veil. Point for the Phils.

LANGUAGE - No need to elaborate on this very much. The Filipinos refer to the Thais as "Monkey People", not because of their physical attributes, rather the strange tone the Thai language has to the Anglo-Filipino ear, and the fact that most of them (the Thais) can't speak proper English, which is frustrating. I say "proper", in that all Filipinos have had English drilled into their heads for the past 100 years, and are syntaxically American-minded. Monkey English is no English at all Point for the Phils

ATTITUDE - We white westerners are all viewed by the Thais as "Farang" or "Falang", however you wish to pronouce it, which is basically a sour-tasting, dumb-looking fruit that is very "blonde" (as they put it) in the middle when cut open. No self-respecting Thai woman would ever be caught in public with a Farang, as it has always been considered quite uncouthe to fratrinize with Farang in their society. As such, when "normal" Thais see whites or blacks with Thai women, they (the women) are immediately assumed to be prostitutes, and are thus chastised as "thuamia" = nonhuman female. The folks posting nightmare stories about former GF's and wives selling their Farang BF's or husband's down the river now know why it was so easy for them to get away with such legally. The Filipino judicial system mirrors that of the US, and the government is very sympathetic toward Americans or Europeans being taken advantage of by Filipina gold-diggers. Point - Phils.

WEATHER / ENVIRONMENT - Outside of Metro Manila, the air in the Phils is quite good, with some of the best being up the hill in Baguio. Thailand is heavily influenced by all the smog coming either down from China or across the gulf from India. The only exception is Khao Yai, which is wonderful, but very, very remote. The Philippines is regularly hit by Typhoons that cause serious damage each time. Taking all into account, neither or both get a ponit here.

LAWS - As posted above, with the world real estate crash and ownership difficulties taken into consideration, there really is no reason to own anything. Renting is the best way to go, and there is plenty available. The one seriously heavy difference betwen the two constitutions is Lese' Majeste, meaning if you insult the Thai King or any member of the royal family, in any way, you risk being picked up and thrown in jail for a minimum of 10 years, without a trial, as has been the case with numerous Aussie and European writers in recent years. Run afoul of a well-connected gold-digger or crooked businessman who wants you out of the way, and you could be accused of showing your middle finger to a picture of the king hanging in the local massage parlor. Beleive me, as a Farang, not one tear would be shed for you by the Thais, and not one lawyer there would dare attempt to defend you. Make fun of President Gloria in Manila and they'll probably put you on TV. Major point for the Phils.

As you can see, from my point of view, the overwhelming advantages sit squarely on the Phils side of the question. Apart from this, the Filipinos themselves are working to turn their country into a second Singapore by making English the official language and encouraging foreign investment to an extent that would never be allowed by the xenophobic Thais.

For my money and with an eye on the future, it's the Philippines for me.

------------------------------------

Camy9000
10-15-09, 08:47
Thanks born loser 5 you went to great trouble for your reply.

I'm not a succesful busniess man but think I will give Cebu a go, I love Thailand but know deep down they resent farang, think the languge and Philippino attitude will be a breath of fresh air.

Shame about the food though I've heard it some of the worst in soth east asia and I love Thai food but I can live with that as long as I have a little cutie (or several).

Thanks

Spooks
10-15-09, 09:05
Here is a post which compares both Thailand and PH I copied a while ago from other monger in a different site. Hope it helps. You could score from dating sites, if you stay here long enough, no issues.

--------------------------------
Gents - I've spent the last 3 years traveling back and forth to Thailand and the Phils on business / pleasure trips with recon intent to find a place to live over there, and have boiled the pros / cons down to the following:

THE SEX - Both Thai and Filipina pussy is excellent, but I have found that Filipinas genuinely enjoy sex more and cum harder and easier than their Thai counterparts. So, one point for the Phils.

LIFESTYLE - Thailand of course has a much better physical infrastructure and orderliness about it, and the food is unbeatable. Ease of traveling with that great new airport is also a plus. One point for Thailand.

HOTELS - I routinely stay at 5-star properties via agoda.com for around 70 USD / night in BKK with cheap room service. My favorite hotel in Makati is the Pen, but can't ever get any deals under 150 USD / night, plus they dick the hell out of you for extras. One point for Thailand.

RENTAL APARTMENTS / HOUSES - The low cost for hotel rooms in BKK is obviously due to overbuilding, but not so with condos and villas, which are usually 20% smaller than Makati properties and 30% more expensive per month, so one point for the Phils.

TAXES - Being ASEAN members, both coutries are basically even on paper, but the Phils Tax Code has many more loopholes and deduction opportunities, meaning that, if you have a good accountant, his or her fees will be the biggest line item you ever pay. The government bean-counters in Thailand are setup similarly to our IRS, and tend to be far too Gestapo-like for my taste. One point (a big one, in my opinion) for the Phils.

CULTURE - Thais always talk about their "happy culture" and the peacefulness of their Theravada Buddhism, while at the same time deriding the "barbarism" of the West. Regardless of how one feels about this, the glaring schizophrenia (one minute contentedly praying to the Buddha, the next throwing molotov cocktails at troops guarding the airport) that each of them exhibits is simply something that this logically-minded American can't ignore... nor tolerate. At least the Filipinos know and openly discuss the fact that their country is fucked up, and don't try to hide behind the bullshit "Sawasdee" veil. Point for the Phils.

LANGUAGE - No need to elaborate on this very much. The Filipinos refer to the Thais as "Monkey People", not because of their physical attributes, rather the strange tone the Thai language has to the Anglo-Filipino ear, and the fact that most of them (the Thais) can't speak proper English, which is frustrating. I say "proper", in that all Filipinos have had English drilled into their heads for the past 100 years, and are syntaxically American-minded. Monkey English is no English at all Point for the Phils

ATTITUDE - We white westerners are all viewed by the Thais as "Farang" or "Falang", however you wish to pronouce it, which is basically a sour-tasting, dumb-looking fruit that is very "blonde" (as they put it) in the middle when cut open. No self-respecting Thai woman would ever be caught in public with a Farang, as it has always been considered quite uncouthe to fratrinize with Farang in their society. As such, when "normal" Thais see whites or blacks with Thai women, they (the women) are immediately assumed to be prostitutes, and are thus chastised as "thuamia" = nonhuman female. The folks posting nightmare stories about former GF's and wives selling their Farang BF's or husband's down the river now know why it was so easy for them to get away with such legally. The Filipino judicial system mirrors that of the US, and the government is very sympathetic toward Americans or Europeans being taken advantage of by Filipina gold-diggers. Point - Phils.

WEATHER / ENVIRONMENT - Outside of Metro Manila, the air in the Phils is quite good, with some of the best being up the hill in Baguio. Thailand is heavily influenced by all the smog coming either down from China or across the gulf from India. The only exception is Khao Yai, which is wonderful, but very, very remote. The Philippines is regularly hit by Typhoons that cause serious damage each time. Taking all into account, neither or both get a ponit here.

LAWS - As posted above, with the world real estate crash and ownership difficulties taken into consideration, there really is no reason to own anything. Renting is the best way to go, and there is plenty available. The one seriously heavy difference betwen the two constitutions is Lese' Majeste, meaning if you insult the Thai King or any member of the royal family, in any way, you risk being picked up and thrown in jail for a minimum of 10 years, without a trial, as has been the case with numerous Aussie and European writers in recent years. Run afoul of a well-connected gold-digger or crooked businessman who wants you out of the way, and you could be accused of showing your middle finger to a picture of the king hanging in the local massage parlor. Beleive me, as a Farang, not one tear would be shed for you by the Thais, and not one lawyer there would dare attempt to defend you. Make fun of President Gloria in Manila and they'll probably put you on TV. Major point for the Phils.

As you can see, from my point of view, the overwhelming advantages sit squarely on the Phils side of the question. Apart from this, the Filipinos themselves are working to turn their country into a second Singapore by making English the official language and encouraging foreign investment to an extent that would never be allowed by the xenophobic Thais.

For my money and with an eye on the future, it's the Philippines for me.

------------------------------------
I would not begin to contrast with Thailand as never been.

Running a business in the Phils and living here full time for last 7 years has taught me to sleep with both eyes open.

Foreigners opening businesses here are put through hoops and loops that are unbelievable, indeed we can not own such entities in our name unless its mining etc. Like a lot of places the Phils do not want us they want our money and the system is designed to remove money from poreigners as fast as possible.

Getting dead courtesy of your wife or gf is common place in the Phils, every day someone somewhere is getting popped, the wife or gf is deeply shocked lol

Too many Enforcement agents are on the take and do so with a vengance, I know as have been on the receiving end of such close attentions.

Phils continues to attract the lowest FDI of SE Asia outside of Myanmar and for very good reason.

As Thailand appears to be worse than any of the above I will stay put here in the Phils:))

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Pompolino
10-15-09, 11:17
Here is a post which compares both Thailand and PH I copied a while ago from other monger in a different site. Hope it helps. You could score from dating sites, if you stay here long enough, no issues.

--------------------------------
Gents - I've spent the last 3 years traveling back and forth to Thailand and the Phils on business / pleasure trips with recon intent to find a place to live over there, and have boiled the pros / cons down to the following:

For my money and with an eye on the future, it's the Philippines for me.Interesting post BL5 but if you are staying for a month you might also consider Davao. I was there for a month between March and April this year and had an absolute ball. The people, the places both for mongering and other are terrific and there is some great info on this and the Dragon Slayer thread. Read some of the posts from GoodEnough which are all quality. Where ever you decide, having worked extensively in Thailand and holidayed in Phil my preference is definitiely Phil but absolutely outside of Manila if you are coming for more than just a few days.

P

Camy9000
10-15-09, 12:11
Thanks for reply born loser.

I think I'll give it a go.

Camy9000
10-16-09, 09:10
Sorry posted reply twice

I'm will be in Thailand for 1 month then will try a month in the Philis

Is it easy to meet ladys? As it is in Thailand I've heard the girls or much more approachable and easier to talk with due to better English and actully likeing foreingers.

Phantomtiger2
10-16-09, 12:07
Due to mishaps in my original travel plans to China, I have diverted to Cebu instead. Met up with fellow monger Shaka, we plan to be around for a little before going on to Angeles.

Will try to keep notes but notice that too much drinking and taking notes for later reports not the best combination but will try my best to be accurate.

PT

Philosophery
10-16-09, 12:32
Here is a post which compares both Thailand and PH I copied a while ago from other monger in a different site. Hope it helps. You could score from dating sites, if you stay here long enough, no issues.

--------------------------------
Gents - I've spent the last 3 years traveling back and forth to Thailand and the Phils on business / pleasure trips with recon intent to find a place to live over there, and have boiled the pros / cons down to the following:

THE SEX - Both Thai and Filipina pussy is excellent, but I have found that Filipinas genuinely enjoy sex more and cum harder and easier than their Thai counterparts. So, one point for the Phils.

LIFESTYLE - Thailand of course has a much better physical infrastructure and orderliness about it, and the food is unbeatable. Ease of traveling with that great new airport is also a plus. One point for Thailand.

HOTELS - I routinely stay at 5-star properties via agoda.com for around 70 USD / night in BKK with cheap room service. My favorite hotel in Makati is the Pen, but can't ever get any deals under 150 USD / night, plus they dick the hell out of you for extras. One point for Thailand.

RENTAL APARTMENTS / HOUSES - The low cost for hotel rooms in BKK is obviously due to overbuilding, but not so with condos and villas, which are usually 20% smaller than Makati properties and 30% more expensive per month, so one point for the Phils.

TAXES - Being ASEAN members, both coutries are basically even on paper, but the Phils Tax Code has many more loopholes and deduction opportunities, meaning that, if you have a good accountant, his or her fees will be the biggest line item you ever pay. The government bean-counters in Thailand are setup similarly to our IRS, and tend to be far too Gestapo-like for my taste. One point (a big one, in my opinion) for the Phils.

CULTURE - Thais always talk about their "happy culture" and the peacefulness of their Theravada Buddhism, while at the same time deriding the "barbarism" of the West. Regardless of how one feels about this, the glaring schizophrenia (one minute contentedly praying to the Buddha, the next throwing molotov cocktails at troops guarding the airport) that each of them exhibits is simply something that this logically-minded American can't ignore... nor tolerate. At least the Filipinos know and openly discuss the fact that their country is fucked up, and don't try to hide behind the bullshit "Sawasdee" veil. Point for the Phils.

LANGUAGE - No need to elaborate on this very much. The Filipinos refer to the Thais as "Monkey People", not because of their physical attributes, rather the strange tone the Thai language has to the Anglo-Filipino ear, and the fact that most of them (the Thais) can't speak proper English, which is frustrating. I say "proper", in that all Filipinos have had English drilled into their heads for the past 100 years, and are syntaxically American-minded. Monkey English is no English at all Point for the Phils

ATTITUDE - We white westerners are all viewed by the Thais as "Farang" or "Falang", however you wish to pronouce it, which is basically a sour-tasting, dumb-looking fruit that is very "blonde" (as they put it) in the middle when cut open. No self-respecting Thai woman would ever be caught in public with a Farang, as it has always been considered quite uncouthe to fratrinize with Farang in their society. As such, when "normal" Thais see whites or blacks with Thai women, they (the women) are immediately assumed to be prostitutes, and are thus chastised as "thuamia" = nonhuman female. The folks posting nightmare stories about former GF's and wives selling their Farang BF's or husband's down the river now know why it was so easy for them to get away with such legally. The Filipino judicial system mirrors that of the US, and the government is very sympathetic toward Americans or Europeans being taken advantage of by Filipina gold-diggers. Point - Phils.

WEATHER / ENVIRONMENT - Outside of Metro Manila, the air in the Phils is quite good, with some of the best being up the hill in Baguio. Thailand is heavily influenced by all the smog coming either down from China or across the gulf from India. The only exception is Khao Yai, which is wonderful, but very, very remote. The Philippines is regularly hit by Typhoons that cause serious damage each time. Taking all into account, neither or both get a ponit here.

LAWS - As posted above, with the world real estate crash and ownership difficulties taken into consideration, there really is no reason to own anything. Renting is the best way to go, and there is plenty available. The one seriously heavy difference betwen the two constitutions is Lese' Majeste, meaning if you insult the Thai King or any member of the royal family, in any way, you risk being picked up and thrown in jail for a minimum of 10 years, without a trial, as has been the case with numerous Aussie and European writers in recent years. Run afoul of a well-connected gold-digger or crooked businessman who wants you out of the way, and you could be accused of showing your middle finger to a picture of the king hanging in the local massage parlor. Beleive me, as a Farang, not one tear would be shed for you by the Thais, and not one lawyer there would dare attempt to defend you. Make fun of President Gloria in Manila and they'll probably put you on TV. Major point for the Phils.

As you can see, from my point of view, the overwhelming advantages sit squarely on the Phils side of the question. Apart from this, the Filipinos themselves are working to turn their country into a second Singapore by making English the official language and encouraging foreign investment to an extent that would never be allowed by the xenophobic Thais.

For my money and with an eye on the future, it's the Philippines for me.

------------------------------------As a person who has spent alot of time in both the Phils and Thailand over the years, you have not mentioned one big factor. Safety.

The Philippines is far more dangerous of a place to visit vs. The tranquil safety of Thailand. That makes the biggest difference to me!

Phantomtiger2
10-16-09, 12:34
Ok, before I forget,

Don't remember if I read this anywhere so will post it anyway (if this is a repeat post then look at this as a reminder).

Airport taxi to Cebu city. My First time in Cebu so had to admit I made a mistake in taking the wrong taxi into town.

As suggested by others, I passed all the touts asking for need taxi and kept walking until I thought I hit the legit airport taxi stand with several taxi parked in line as this was now away from all the touts. Taxi driver (not tout) ask if I need taxi and I said yes. Got in and although he had a meter, didn't turn it on as I've read it should be a fix rate from airport anywhere to city.
Got to my hotel to find out he wanted 350p?????--I said fix rate is 200p, he said no, but will give me 300p price instead since my hotel not too far.
He then said meter rate will be 300p , but I said you didn't use meter , he said I didn't ask him to.
OK, he got me there and I realize it was my blunder so can't afford to argue too much with him as he knows I can't win this one. But did manage to finally get it down to 250p with the help of the hotel staff as they was helping with my luggage.
So Lesson learned and for all you 1st timers to Cebu( like me), keep this list in mind.
1)Never assume taxi have set prices even if you heard it from others that price is set. Always ask beforehand what he will charge to your hotel before setting off to avoid surprises in the end.
2)If he have a meter, by all means tell him to turn it on.
3)The official airport taxis are YELLOW in color as the one I got on is white color (ordinary city taxi). But I suggest that even if you use the official Yellow airport taxi to confirm the price so less likely to be ripoff.
Note: the official airport taxi rate to city should be a set 200p with the Yellow color taxi and with any other color taxi(white or otherwise) remember you must tell him to use meter as their prices are NOT set and they can charge whatever they want.
4) Don't make the mistakes I made.
5)Have fun anyway

PT

Member #4167
10-16-09, 13:12
Thanks for posting that article, BL5 - I found it valuable.

Which site did you get it from?


Here is a post which compares both Thailand and PH I copied a while ago from other monger in a different site. Hope it helps. You could score from dating sites, if you stay here long enough, no issues.

--------------------------------
Gents - I've spent the last 3 years traveling back and forth to Thailand and the Phils on business / pleasure trips with recon intent to find a place to live over there, and have boiled the pros / cons down to the following:

THE SEX - Both Thai and Filipina pussy is excellent, but I have found that Filipinas genuinely enjoy sex more and cum harder and easier than their Thai counterparts. So, one point for the Phils.

LIFESTYLE - Thailand of course has a much better physical infrastructure and orderliness about it, and the food is unbeatable. Ease of traveling with that great new airport is also a plus. One point for Thailand.

HOTELS - I routinely stay at 5-star properties via agoda.com for around 70 USD / night in BKK with cheap room service. My favorite hotel in Makati is the Pen, but can't ever get any deals under 150 USD / night, plus they dick the hell out of you for extras. One point for Thailand.

RENTAL APARTMENTS / HOUSES - The low cost for hotel rooms in BKK is obviously due to overbuilding, but not so with condos and villas, which are usually 20% smaller than Makati properties and 30% more expensive per month, so one point for the Phils.

TAXES - Being ASEAN members, both coutries are basically even on paper, but the Phils Tax Code has many more loopholes and deduction opportunities, meaning that, if you have a good accountant, his or her fees will be the biggest line item you ever pay. The government bean-counters in Thailand are setup similarly to our IRS, and tend to be far too Gestapo-like for my taste. One point (a big one, in my opinion) for the Phils.

CULTURE - Thais always talk about their "happy culture" and the peacefulness of their Theravada Buddhism, while at the same time deriding the "barbarism" of the West. Regardless of how one feels about this, the glaring schizophrenia (one minute contentedly praying to the Buddha, the next throwing molotov cocktails at troops guarding the airport) that each of them exhibits is simply something that this logically-minded American can't ignore... nor tolerate. At least the Filipinos know and openly discuss the fact that their country is fucked up, and don't try to hide behind the bullshit "Sawasdee" veil. Point for the Phils.

LANGUAGE - No need to elaborate on this very much. The Filipinos refer to the Thais as "Monkey People", not because of their physical attributes, rather the strange tone the Thai language has to the Anglo-Filipino ear, and the fact that most of them (the Thais) can't speak proper English, which is frustrating. I say "proper", in that all Filipinos have had English drilled into their heads for the past 100 years, and are syntaxically American-minded. Monkey English is no English at all Point for the Phils

ATTITUDE - We white westerners are all viewed by the Thais as "Farang" or "Falang", however you wish to pronouce it, which is basically a sour-tasting, dumb-looking fruit that is very "blonde" (as they put it) in the middle when cut open. No self-respecting Thai woman would ever be caught in public with a Farang, as it has always been considered quite uncouthe to fratrinize with Farang in their society. As such, when "normal" Thais see whites or blacks with Thai women, they (the women) are immediately assumed to be prostitutes, and are thus chastised as "thuamia" = nonhuman female. The folks posting nightmare stories about former GF's and wives selling their Farang BF's or husband's down the river now know why it was so easy for them to get away with such legally. The Filipino judicial system mirrors that of the US, and the government is very sympathetic toward Americans or Europeans being taken advantage of by Filipina gold-diggers. Point - Phils.

WEATHER / ENVIRONMENT - Outside of Metro Manila, the air in the Phils is quite good, with some of the best being up the hill in Baguio. Thailand is heavily influenced by all the smog coming either down from China or across the gulf from India. The only exception is Khao Yai, which is wonderful, but very, very remote. The Philippines is regularly hit by Typhoons that cause serious damage each time. Taking all into account, neither or both get a ponit here.

LAWS - As posted above, with the world real estate crash and ownership difficulties taken into consideration, there really is no reason to own anything. Renting is the best way to go, and there is plenty available. The one seriously heavy difference betwen the two constitutions is Lese' Majeste, meaning if you insult the Thai King or any member of the royal family, in any way, you risk being picked up and thrown in jail for a minimum of 10 years, without a trial, as has been the case with numerous Aussie and European writers in recent years. Run afoul of a well-connected gold-digger or crooked businessman who wants you out of the way, and you could be accused of showing your middle finger to a picture of the king hanging in the local massage parlor. Beleive me, as a Farang, not one tear would be shed for you by the Thais, and not one lawyer there would dare attempt to defend you. Make fun of President Gloria in Manila and they'll probably put you on TV. Major point for the Phils.

As you can see, from my point of view, the overwhelming advantages sit squarely on the Phils side of the question. Apart from this, the Filipinos themselves are working to turn their country into a second Singapore by making English the official language and encouraging foreign investment to an extent that would never be allowed by the xenophobic Thais.

For my money and with an eye on the future, it's the Philippines for me.

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Starchild2012
10-17-09, 08:04
Thanks for posting that article, BL5 - I found it valuable.

Which site did you get it from?

Its from a competitor site, so couldn't post the links :), the info on that site is less compared to here but out of curiosity i check some site time to time....yeah life gets boring.....:(

type world sex guide in Google and u should reach the site


a person who has spent alot of time in both the Phils and Thailand over the years, you have not mentioned one big factor. Safety.

The Philippines is far more dangerous of a place to visit vs. The tranquil safety of Thailand. That makes the biggest difference to me!

if we take the murder rate of expats by lady boys, wife and maid...plus driving accidents and jumping from the 20 storey apartment..PH is much safer.

But again, we have to take the number of tourist visiting both countries, so naturally Thailand will have more problems cos of more tourists, but ratio wise to the population i don't have the figure...but PH is small geographically but more populated than Thailand. Generally, we know as long as there are more tourists there would be bad elements hovering to suck life out.

i find life in PH to be cool, and if in problem, one can get out by speaking a language the other party would understand :)



Sorry posted reply twice

I'm will be in Thailand for 1 month then will try a month in the Philis

Is it easy to meet ladys? As it is in Thailand I've heard the girls or much more approachable and easier to talk with due to better English and actully likeing foreingers.

I always wanted to say this ....you are not in Kansas anymore :) you are probably thinking too much and worrying....just chill...things will work out on its own..as long as you have read this site and know what and where to go and do things as other mongers have done for decades now.

PH is very cool and relaxed place in that no cut throat competition to get girls, no drama from girls, don't have to worry about the ghost from the girl friends past or she would drag you to hell or jombieland etc etc :)...just read about the scams and how to avoid it....

The day you made the decision to visit Thai and PH was your salvation ...now its only few more steps and choices to make and you will find your bliss.. No worries...Just chill....keep it posted on your trip...good luck

Camy9000
10-17-09, 11:15
Its from a competitor site, so couldn't post the links., the info on that site is less compared to here but out of curiosity I check some site time to time. Yeah life gets boring.

Type world sex guide in Google and you should reach the site

If we take the murder rate of expats by lady boys, wife and maid. Plus driving accidents and jumping from the 20 storey apartment. PH is much safer.

But again, we have to take the number of tourist visiting both countries, so naturally Thailand will have more problems because of more tourists, but ratio wise to the population I don't have the figure. But PH is small geographically but more populated than Thailand. Generally, we know as long as there are more tourists there would be bad elements hovering to suck life out.

I find life in PH to be cool, and if in problem, one can get out by speaking a language the other party would understand.

I always wanted to say this. You are not in Kansas anymore. You are probably thinking too much and worrying. Just chill. Things will work out on its own. As long as you have read this site and know what and where to go and do things as other mongers have done for decades now.

PH is very cool and relaxed place in that no cut throat competition to get girls, no drama from girls, don't have to worry about the ghost from the girl friends past or she would drag you to hell or jombieland etc etc. Just read about the scams and how to avoid it.

The day you made the decision to visit Thai and PH was your salvation. Now its only few more steps and choices to make and you will find your bliss. No worries. Just chill. Keep it posted on your trip. Good luckKansas! Edinburgh dude Thanks man your right I'm worring too much I'll just go with the flow.

X Man
10-17-09, 11:23
PT2, if in Cebu, I suggest you avoid step 1 and go directly to step 2.

I ask for the meter before I get in. If they respond with, "How much you give me?", I politely say "thanks anyway" and close the door. I then go to the taxi immediately behind the first taxi. The 2nd driver has a pretty good idea what just happened and quickly agrees to use the meter. I've never had to go to a 3rd driver -- not in Cebu. Manila is another story.

X




Ok, before I forget,

Don't remember if I read this anywhere so will post it anyway (if this is a repeat post then look at this as a reminder).

Airport taxi to Cebu city. My First time in Cebu so had to admit I made a mistake in taking the wrong taxi into town.

As suggested by others, I passed all the touts asking for need taxi and kept walking until I thought I hit the legit airport taxi stand with several taxi parked in line as this was now away from all the touts. Taxi driver (not tout) ask if I need taxi and I said yes. Got in and although he had a meter, didn't turn it on as I've read it should be a fix rate from airport anywhere to city.
Got to my hotel to find out he wanted 350p?????--I said fix rate is 200p, he said no, but will give me 300p price instead since my hotel not too far.
He then said meter rate will be 300p , but I said you didn't use meter , he said I didn't ask him to.
OK, he got me there and I realize it was my blunder so can't afford to argue too much with him as he knows I can't win this one. But did manage to finally get it down to 250p with the help of the hotel staff as they was helping with my luggage.
So Lesson learned and for all you 1st timers to Cebu( like me), keep this list in mind.
1)Never assume taxi have set prices even if you heard it from others that price is set. Always ask beforehand what he will charge to your hotel before setting off to avoid surprises in the end.
2)If he have a meter, by all means tell him to turn it on.
3)The official airport taxis are YELLOW in color as the one I got on is white color (ordinary city taxi). But I suggest that even if you use the official Yellow airport taxi to confirm the price so less likely to be ripoff.
Note: the official airport taxi rate to city should be a set 200p with the Yellow color taxi and with any other color taxi(white or otherwise) remember you must tell him to use meter as their prices are NOT set and they can charge whatever they want.
4) Don't make the mistakes I made.
5)Have fun anyway

PT

Starchild2012
10-18-09, 16:01
PT2, if in Cebu, I suggest you avoid step 1 and go directly to step 2.

I ask for the meter before I get in. If they respond with, "How much you give me?", I politely say "thanks anyway" and close the door. I then go to the taxi immediately behind the first taxi. The 2nd driver has a pretty good idea what just happened and quickly agrees to use the meter. I've never had to go to a 3rd driver -- not in Cebu. Manila is another story.

X

X'man is right, Cebu is not as bad as Manila, in Manila taxi drivers even stop the meter half way and say its damaged, even if you get in and say them to go with the meter....you will have to hassle at the end of journey ...don't tip them...give them exact change and use high tone voice to argue..they will back off.

if something goes badly wrong..call this taxi complaint number and help will be in your way 9219071....its a helpline set up recently by Manila mayor etc to help with the rude and overcharging drivers.

Good Luck

Zackary Kr
10-19-09, 04:51
The strangest thing happened to me. I had been reading up on the Cebu forum only recently but realized that most of the stuff for nighttime activities starts near Iglesia Church and then heading downing towards the Mangoes area.

I went into the very first bar near the church and didn't realize until after I went out the door that it was Viking bar. I got in around 11 pm. Sat down for a drink and it was 95 percent korean customers. It didn't put me off but I was checking out the girls.

Yeah, there were some really nice looking girls at the bar compared to the other places I went to around the area (which I found out later). Gentleman's club was also good which is next door.

At any rate, I had no idea about Cebu bars and thought it would have a similar pay scale/rate/conditions as Angeles. So, after sitting down for a drink, I calmly asked one of the waitresses how much a barfine is at the bar.

I got a "deer in the headlights" kind of look. She said, "I have no idea what you're talking about, sir."

I was totally miffed about the situation. So, I said, "well, is it possible to take the ladies out? " She said, "No."

Could someone enlighten me to this situation? I have no idea. Gentleman's Club, however, was the same as Angeles with the slightly push mama-san (which I'd become accustomed to).

As a side note, you guys have got to check out the ridiculous prices at "Love City" which is right across the street. They quote "5000" pesos for a girl and they charge double drink prices for everything. Can you believe 110 pesos for a San Miguel Lite? Uh. Thanks but no thanks!

Cheers

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X Man
10-19-09, 10:26
Zack, thanks for posting as a newcomer. I rolled my eyes, but also recognized a few mistakes I'd made in the past.

Just one quibble --- 110 for a beer at Love City, with dancing that goes beyond the typical bikini dance....why is that a problem? There is no entrance charge.

Yes, the barfine charge is steep, although it may be possible to negotiate it down. Once sitting with a gal, every other gal lined up near the door. I asked, "What's going on?"

She replied, "Korean customer". Sure enough, a few Korean guys came in and picked a few and off they went. The only women who didn't line up were the ones who weren't already seated with a customer. It's hard to slip a phone number to one of these gals because the Mamas are on to that trick.

As for the deer in the headlights, she may have been a new gal who was warned not to give info. There may have been some heat just before your visit. Do you look like a Filipino? Buy a gal a drink and ask her.

Or better yet, go to the next bar and ask again. You never gave an ending to the story -- did you go back to Love city and pay 5k?

X





The strangest thing happened to me. I had been reading up on the Cebu forum only recently but realized that most of the stuff for nighttime activities starts near Iglesia Church and then heading downing towards the Mangoes area.

I went into the very first bar near the church and didn't realize until after I went out the door that it was Viking bar. I got in around 11 pm. Sat down for a drink and it was 95 percent korean customers. It didn't put me off but I was checking out the girls.

Yeah, there were some really nice looking girls at the bar compared to the other places I went to around the area (which I found out later). Gentleman's club was also good which is next door.

At any rate, I had no idea about Cebu bars and thought it would have a similar pay scale/rate/conditions as Angeles. So, after sitting down for a drink, I calmly asked one of the waitresses how much a barfine is at the bar.

I got a "deer in the headlights" kind of look. She said, "I have no idea what you're talking about, sir."

I was totally miffed about the situation. So, I said, "well, is it possible to take the ladies out? " She said, "No."

Could someone enlighten me to this situation? I have no idea. Gentleman's Club, however, was the same as Angeles with the slightly push mama-san (which I'd become accustomed to).

As a side note, you guys have got to check out the ridiculous prices at "Love City" which is right across the street. They quote "5000" pesos for a girl and they charge double drink prices for everything. Can you believe 110 pesos for a San Miguel Lite? Uh. Thanks but no thanks!

Cheers

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

X Man
10-19-09, 10:45
This is the Cebu thread, and I think BornLoser is giving the number for Manila.

There is a number on the back of taxis in Manila, and I recommend any visitor write it down. And to kill time, ask your taxi driver, "what is that number on the back of the taxi in front of us?"

I don't remember if there is a number for Cebu taxis, but it really isn't necessary at this time. Most are very good. Talk to them, they are a wealth of information. If you feel comfortable with them, ask for their phone number, especially if you want to go to TOPS, or some other location out of the city. Always get a second opinion, if you want to save money.

Unless coming from, or going to, the airport, you usually will have no trouble with Cebu taxi drivers.

Manila: good luck....when I reserve a direct flight to Cebu, I think about how the MNL taxis are hurting the city economy.

X


X'man is right, Cebu is not as bad as Manila, in Manila taxi drivers even stop the meter half way and say its damaged, even if you get in and say them to go with the meter....you will have to hassle at the end of journey ...don't tip them...give them exact change and use high tone voice to argue..they will back off.

if something goes badly wrong..call this taxi complaint number and help will be in your way 9219071....its a helpline set up recently by Manila mayor etc to help with the rude and overcharging drivers.

Good Luck

Fal88
10-19-09, 16:35
Cancel what I said about Eddies hotel... rooms are okay, but... the water in the sink is warm, and the water in shower is ICE COLD.

Sigh. Search goes on!

Ok, fixed. Eddies is a good place.

Zackary Kr
10-20-09, 05:51
Zack, thanks for posting as a newcomer. I rolled my eyes, but also recognized a few mistakes I'd made in the past.

Just one quibble --- 110 for a beer at Love City, with dancing that goes beyond the typical bikini dance....why is that a problem? There is no entrance charge.

Yes, the barfine charge is steep, although it may be possible to negotiate it down. Once sitting with a gal, every other gal lined up near the door. I asked, "What's going on?"

She replied, "Korean customer". Sure enough, a few Korean guys came in and picked a few and off they went. The only women who didn't line up were the ones who weren't already seated with a customer. It's hard to slip a phone number to one of these gals because the Mamas are on to that trick.

As for the deer in the headlights, she may have been a new gal who was warned not to give info. There may have been some heat just before your visit. Do you look like a Filipino? Buy a gal a drink and ask her.

Or better yet, go to the next bar and ask again. You never gave an ending to the story -- did you go back to Love city and pay 5k?

X

Good point about the beer for 110 at Love City. After I hastily made my initial post because of the crappy internet at Diplomat Hotel (however, to be fair, I'd been told that there internet lines were damaged and being repaired for some time), I reconsidered the drink prices considering the kind of show they give. It is reasonable pricing.

In my case though, I'm still so fresh from Angeles that I think I'm suffering from "Angel-itis" and got so accustomed to the system there. The system in Cebu seems so much more spotty and confusing in terms of barfines and tips. Tips are mandatory and not optional according to some places (with prices varying by the size of the tip).

Then, other places, as had been mentioned, are doing a more all inclusive barfine and extra tipping is optional.

I was talking with one of the ladies from Lone Star and she mentioned prices that were different from one of the bartenders I talked to. It is definitely 700 for the barfine but the amount of tip is expected to be around 2000 depending on your negotiating skills.

If you only tip 1000 (or god forbid 500) you'll get blacklisted by the ladies. However, things are negotiable and you'll have to talk to them.

All in all, I'd say the average rate for a gal in Cebu would cost you about 2500-2700 in total and so the prices are comparable to Manila.

Oh, I'm rambling, sorry. Anyways, back to the story... I kept thinking about why the bartender at Viking told me there was no barfine. I think you're right X-man, it's because I look Pinoy. Strange thing is, my face must have this generic look to most Southeast Asian countries. When I went to Vietnam and Cambodia last year, they thought I was Khmer in Cambodia and Vietnamese in Vietnam. I also looked Thai in Thailand. I even had middle-aged street vendor ladies accuse me of lying about my nationality (in almost each country I visited)!! Now apparently, I look Pinoy in Philippines!!! LOL...

BTW, I didn't go back to Love City but I seem to have hit most of the noteworthy places where I could go. I'll try to put a FR later.

Cheers!

zackary kr

Starchild2012
10-20-09, 07:51
This is the Cebu thread, and I think BornLoser is giving the number for Manila.

There is a number on the back of taxis in Manila, and I recommend any visitor write it down. And to kill time, ask your taxi driver, "what is that number on the back of the taxi in front of us?"

I don't remember if there is a number for Cebu taxis, but it really isn't necessary at this time. Most are very good. Talk to them, they are a wealth of information. If you feel comfortable with them, ask for their phone number, especially if you want to go to TOPS, or some other location out of the city. Always get a second opinion, if you want to save money.

Unless coming from, or going to, the airport, you usually will have no trouble with Cebu taxi drivers.

Manila: good luck....when I reserve a direct flight to Cebu, I think about how the MNL taxis are hurting the city economy.

X

My bad, forgot to mention it was only for Manila taxi's. I never had any problem with Cebu taxi driver's, i was even warned by Filipino dudes in Cebu to be careful, while travelling in manila taxis, which i ignored and later experienced the full blown assault on price manipulation.

As i wrote couple of years ago, i too was a victim to Asian class syndrome and was discriminated in terms of bar fine etc...but i overcame it by visiting same place over and over again and the treatment got better and better.

Once, you are a familer face, this gets easy, but for short time visitor's its always a hassle and one has to count on its luck to be lucky :)

Try sisters bar across the vikings...i was treated like a king on my very first visit :)

X Man
10-20-09, 11:38
Zack, thanks for the details.

Some senior members here have noticed pricing discrepencies at Lone Star, which used to be a highly rated bar.

As for your price of 2500....my gut says that is too much. Is that all inclusive...barfine, drinks, tip?

If you paid that much, just curious, did you have trouble getting rid of the gal? If she doesn't want to leave, and reveals her strong affection for you, you may have paid too much.

That's not a bad thing Zack. She'll remember you.

AC is cheaper than Cebu ... if you factor out the freebie factor. All things are relative.

X


Good point about the beer for 110 at Love City. After I hastily made my initial post because of the crappy internet at Diplomat Hotel (however, to be fair, I'd been told that there internet lines were damaged and being repaired for some time), I reconsidered the drink prices considering the kind of show they give. It is reasonable pricing.

In my case though, I'm still so fresh from Angeles that I think I'm suffering from "Angel-itis" and got so accustomed to the system there. The system in Cebu seems so much more spotty and confusing in terms of barfines and tips. Tips are mandatory and not optional according to some places (with prices varying by the size of the tip).

Then, other places, as had been mentioned, are doing a more all inclusive barfine and extra tipping is optional.

I was talking with one of the ladies from Lone Star and she mentioned prices that were different from one of the bartenders I talked to. It is definitely 700 for the barfine but the amount of tip is expected to be around 2000 depending on your negotiating skills.

If you only tip 1000 (or god forbid 500) you'll get blacklisted by the ladies. However, things are negotiable and you'll have to talk to them.

All in all, I'd say the average rate for a gal in Cebu would cost you about 2500-2700 in total and so the prices are comparable to Manila.

Oh, I'm rambling, sorry. Anyways, back to the story... I kept thinking about why the bartender at Viking told me there was no barfine. I think you're right X-man, it's because I look Pinoy. Strange thing is, my face must have this generic look to most Southeast Asian countries. When I went to Vietnam and Cambodia last year, they thought I was Khmer in Cambodia and Vietnamese in Vietnam. I also looked Thai in Thailand. I even had middle-aged street vendor ladies accuse me of lying about my nationality (in almost each country I visited)!! Now apparently, I look Pinoy in Philippines!!! LOL...

BTW, I didn't go back to Love City but I seem to have hit most of the noteworthy places where I could go. I'll try to put a FR later.

Cheers!

zackary kr

Robbaf
10-20-09, 22:46
The strangest thing happened to me. I had been reading up on the Cebu forum only recently but realized that most of the stuff for nighttime activities starts near Iglesia Church and then heading downing towards the Mangoes area.

I went into the very first bar near the church and didn't realize until after I went out the door that it was Viking bar. I got in around 11 pm. Sat down for a drink and it was 95 percent korean customers. It didn't put me off but I was checking out the girls.

Yeah, there were some really nice looking girls at the bar compared to the other places I went to around the area (which I found out later). Gentleman's club was also good which is next door.

At any rate, I had no idea about Cebu bars and thought it would have a similar pay scale/rate/conditions as Angeles. So, after sitting down for a drink, I calmly asked one of the waitresses how much a barfine is at the bar.

I got a "deer in the headlights" kind of look. She said, "I have no idea what you're talking about, sir."

I was totally miffed about the situation. So, I said, "well, is it possible to take the ladies out? " She said, "No."

Could someone enlighten me to this situation? I have no idea. My buddy was in Cebu last weekend and he told me that the three sister bars Vikings, BG's and Erik the Red were no longer allowing bar fines. If you want a girl, she will meet you outside and you give her the money and she will go back in the bar and pay her Early Work Release. He took a girl from BG's and did the payment outside. IMHO it is stupid to do the payment outside, you never know who is watching:(

Robb

Zackary Kr
10-21-09, 01:20
My buddy was in Cebu last weekend and he told me that the three sister bars Vikings, BG's and Erik the Red were no longer allowing bar fines. If you want a girl, she will meet you outside and you give her the money and she will go back in the bar and pay her Early Work Release. He took a girl from BG's and did the payment outside. IMHO it is stupid to do the payment outside, you never know who is watching:(

Robb

I think you're right, Robb. Because the exact same thing happened to me at Temptations last night. I went there, sat down, had a drink. Then, I just casually asked (sometime later) what it would be like for taking out a girl. The bartender made the reply that she has no idea what I'm talking about. Then, she even started asking the other workers there!

I said to her, "Uhm, excuse me.. but, I definitely know there's a barfine here. She said , "Sorry, I'm new." A waitress came over, she didn't say anything and told me to ask the mamasan. Then finally, (good grief) the mamasan came over and even she wasn't sure about this barfine thing because she said she is "new".

That blew up a big "WTF" bubble over my head! I was really put off and just brooded for a while on the bar stool.

Finally, I asked, "Is it because I look Pinoy?" They said, "No sir, we know you are not Pinoy" ... blah blah blah.. yadda yadda yadda....

Anyways, eventually after more than 10 minutes, I just said I'd buy the girl a drink. And finally, I asked her and she told me the barfine... I have no idea what is going on.

Zackary Kr
10-21-09, 01:39
Zack, thanks for the details.

Some senior members here have noticed pricing discrepencies at Lone Star, which used to be a highly rated bar.

As for your price of 2500....my gut says that is too much. Is that all inclusive...barfine, drinks, tip?

If you paid that much, just curious, did you have trouble getting rid of the gal? If she doesn't want to leave, and reveals her strong affection for you, you may have paid too much.

That's not a bad thing Zack. She'll remember you.

AC is cheaper than Cebu ... if you factor out the freebie factor. All things are relative.

X
Yeah, I was definitely put off by the prices. I had totally thought that Cebu would be a cheaper alternative to Manila before I got here. Boy was I ever wrong (slaps bottom of hand of to forehead)!

Unfortunately, the 2,500 (more like 2,700) I would need to pay is only for the barfine plus the tip only. None of the drinks or other stuff are factored in. Later, I found out the mamasan told me 2,700 is because I was an "unknown" customer. I think this is because some customers have been cheaping out on the tip. So, new customers will be quoted 2,700 (all inclusive) while familiar customers will be told 700 bf and then tip "up to you".

For example, at Temptations I was told that the barfine is 1,700. Then, the tip is expected (mandatory actually) after completion. Considering the look of the girls at Temptation, I'm sorely tempted to say that the expected tip would be around 2,000. I say "expected" but perhaps you could haggle down to 1,500. I have no idea because I didn't barfine.

I went back to Lone Star again last night, I asked the mamasan about barfine. She told me that the barfine is 2,700 but tipping is not mandatory. This is why I stated that no matter which bar you go to, the average amount you'll pay is about 2,500 to 2,700.

Word of warning fellas!!! PLZ BE SURE TO ASK THE GIRL WHAT TIME SHE HAS TO LEAVE!

I asked 2 separate girls at both Lone Star and Temptation what time they would leave if I barfined them. The one at Lone Star told me she has to leave at 7 a.m. That might have sounded reasonable but i was talking with her at 2 a.m. (That deserves another WTF!!!).

Then, the girl at Temptations told me that she has to leave at 3 a.m. That was at midnight when I asked her!!!

Now, that really annoyed me. There's absolutely no way I intend on paying around 2,500-2,700 for a barfine that's gonna leave in the next 3-4 hours!

To be honest, I don't really know what's going on with the prices and amount of time a girl will stay with you. I'm actually not the kind of guy girls don't wanna spend time with and I'm reasonably entertaining. The girl at Temptation kept blushing as she was talking to me. This was from a girl who was dancing like gangbusters on the stage.

Oh well, can anyone please elaborate as to what's going on here?

Brymor
10-21-09, 09:04
Yeah, I was definitely put off by the prices. I had totally thought that Cebu would be a cheaper alternative to Manila before I got here. Boy was I ever wrong (slaps bottom of hand of to forehead)!

Unfortunately, the 2,500 (more like 2,700) I would need to pay is only for the barfine plus the tip only. None of the drinks or other stuff are factored in. Later, I found out the mamasan told me 2,700 is because I was an "unknown" customer. I think this is because some customers have been cheaping out on the tip. So, new customers will be quoted 2,700 (all inclusive) while familiar customers will be told 700 bf and then tip "up to you".

For example, at Temptations I was told that the barfine is 1,700. Then, the tip is expected (mandatory actually) after completion. Considering the look of the girls at Temptation, I'm sorely tempted to say that the expected tip would be around 2,000. I say "expected" but perhaps you could haggle down to 1,500. I have no idea because I didn't barfine.

I went back to Lone Star again last night, I asked the mamasan about barfine. She told me that the barfine is 2,700 but tipping is not mandatory. This is why I stated that no matter which bar you go to, the average amount you'll pay is about 2,500 to 2,700.

Word of warning fellas!!! PLZ BE SURE TO ASK THE GIRL WHAT TIME SHE HAS TO LEAVE!

I asked 2 separate girls at both Lone Star and Temptation what time they would leave if I barfined them. The one at Lone Star told me she has to leave at 7 a.m. That might have sounded reasonable but i was talking with her at 2 a.m. (That deserves another WTF!!!).

Then, the girl at Temptations told me that she has to leave at 3 a.m. That was at midnight when I asked her!!!

Now, that really annoyed me. There's absolutely no way I intend on paying around 2,500-2,700 for a barfine that's gonna leave in the next 3-4 hours!

To be honest, I don't really know what's going on with the prices and amount of time a girl will stay with you. I'm actually not the kind of guy girls don't wanna spend time with and I'm reasonably entertaining. The girl at Temptation kept blushing as she was talking to me. This was from a girl who was dancing like gangbusters on the stage.

Oh well, can anyone please elaborate as to what's going on here?

Try the Blue Angel Bikini Bar on North Escario Street a 40 peso ride from Ayalla. I didn't take out anything during my visit a few months ago but was impressed with what I saw then, although girls do come and go and current standards may not be the same. I was quoted 1750 pesos all inclusive for take out, which seems to be a much more competative price than the other clubs. (see my previous report for more details)

Starchild2012
10-21-09, 13:08
Many thanks for this repost, BL5. Could you and/or others kindly comment on Cebu as compared to the rest of the PI (in the Cebu thread)? Is Cebu a good place for expatriates? I am 53 and thinking ahead toward retirement. Again, thanks and mabuhay :)

I have not been to many cities in PH only to Cebu, Manila and surrounding small cities and beaches. I plan to go to Davao shortly as i heard that place is still the soul of the PH.

Compared to Manila, Cebu wins hands down, there are many expats living in Cebu. you could Google with the keywords living in Cebu and check out various forums started by expats living in Cebu.

Dragon Slayer thread has tons of info regarding living in Davoa, you could check out with him for Davoa info.

Starchild2012
10-21-09, 13:11
I think you're right, Robb. Because the exact same thing happened to me at Temptations last night. I went there, sat down, had a drink. Then, I just casually asked (sometime later) what it would be like for taking out a girl. The bartender made the reply that she has no idea what I'm talking about. Then, she even started asking the other workers there!

I said to her, "Uhm, excuse me.. but, I definitely know there's a barfine here. She said , "Sorry, I'm new." A waitress came over, she didn't say anything and told me to ask the mamasan. Then finally, (good grief) the mamasan came over and even she wasn't sure about this barfine thing because she said she is "new".

That blew up a big "WTF" bubble over my head! I was really put off and just brooded for a while on the bar stool.

Finally, I asked, "Is it because I look Pinoy?" They said, "No sir, we know you are not Pinoy" ... blah blah blah.. yadda yadda yadda....

Anyways, eventually after more than 10 minutes, I just said I'd buy the girl a drink. And finally, I asked her and she told me the barfine... I have no idea what is going on.

I read somewhere that Juliana disco in mango after 2.30 am is hot bed with freebies and bar girls who come out during that time from bars and hang in that club to score with customers. check out the disco scene if you still in Cebu

Catire
10-21-09, 15:09
I read somewhere that Juliana disco in mango after 2.30 am is hot bed with freebies and bar girls who come out during that time from bars and hang in that club to score with customers. check out the disco scene if you still in Cebu

freebies?
that depends. If she has money in her purse or has had a good week or two of barfine biz, AND she finds you attractive (fat and middle aged need not apply) then sure.

otherwise what happens in Juliana is many bargirls go there for 2 reasons

1) unwind and relax with friends after a night of working at the bar. Typically not interested in new customers during those times.

2) to actively hunt for new customers as there's a shortage of pisos in her purse.

X Man
10-21-09, 15:21
Catire makes a good point. Most gals at Julianas are there for the party, they are there with their friends. You should go there for the party. You should not assume that any lass if p4p.

Catire also makes a mistake in underestimating the slightly overwieght and middle aged guys. We got game, we got bucks, we got white skin...

X
Juliana is a disco.....nothing more.


freebies?
that depends. If she has money in her purse or has had a good week or two of barfine biz, AND she finds you attractive (fat and middle aged need not apply) then sure.

otherwise what happens in Juliana is many bargirls go there for 2 reasons

1) unwind and relax with friends after a night of working at the bar. Typically not interested in new customers during those times.

2) to actively hunt for new customers as there's a shortage of pisos in her purse.

Catire
10-21-09, 15:46
Catire makes a good point. Most gals at Julianas are there for the party, they are there with their friends. You should go there for the party. You should not assume that any lass if p4p.

Catire also makes a mistake in underestimating the slightly overwieght and middle aged guys. We got game, we got bucks, we got white skin...

X
Juliana is a disco.....nothing more.

I was generalizing. As always, YMMV.

GoodEnough
10-21-09, 23:50
I have not been to many cities in PH only to Cebu, Manila and surrounding small cities and beaches. I plan to go to Davao shortly as i heard that place is still the soul of the PH.

Compared to Manila, Cebu wins hands down, there are many expats living in Cebu. you could Google with the keywords living in Cebu and check out various forums started by expats living in Cebu.

Dragon Slayer thread has tons of info regarding living in Davoa, you could check out with him for Davoa info.
I agree that DS' thread probably has the best, most current information on Davao, but it's important to come here with the correct set of expectations about what the city offers.

I've said this before, but I think it bears repeated for Davao newbies: if you're here looking strictly for P4P, you're probably better off staying in Manila or Cebu. Davao has it's share of sws and bar fine emporia, but not nearly as many as those two cities. Davao's major attraction for the non-resident (at least in my opinion) is that it's an easy place in which to meet and succeed with non-pro women. They're everywhere and they're extremely approachable. It may take a little game and a little patience, but only a very little.

DS has, through the years, provided some excellent tips on how to go about this: dress decently, be reasonably personable, take them out for a good meal, etc. In his case, this approach works almost all of the time. My only other bit of advice is never to be reticent. If you see someone here, in a mall, a restaurant, a bar, a club, and she appeals to you, then go over, buy her a drink and start talking. Unless she's already with someone else, it will take her typically about 30 seconds to invite you to sit down, and after that, it's all down hill.

There are lots of places where you can go to refine your style here, the bars on Torres St., Bar 183, and the bars around the Auto Shop being but three of innumerable possibilities. Just remember, these girls are not professionals, and it's never going to be a "sure thing," so the trick is not to treat them like hookers, to be as charming as possible, and not to rush things.

Davao is a great city. It's more laid back than Manila or Cebu and it's arguably much safer than either of those cities. However, it's not for everyone and if you're going to invest in coming here, it's important to know what to expect.

GE

Zackary Kr
10-22-09, 06:24
Try the Blue Angel Bikini Bar on North Escario Street a 40 peso ride from Ayalla. I didn't take out anything during my visit a few months ago but was impressed with what I saw then, although girls do come and go and current standards may not be the same. I was quoted 1750 pesos all inclusive for take out, which seems to be a much more competative price than the other clubs. (see my previous report for more details)

Hey Mortman! Just wanted to thank you for the recommendation. I went there last night and the pricing is extremely reasonable as well as having some lookers there! The staff and girls were very friendly along with the manager who is a jovial, easy-going American guy. His name is Chrase (or at least my barfine told me that it was). I asked him on the way out if he was familiar with ISG and he was. Really nice guy! He said, "hello" to me on the way in. I was taken aback at first cuz that never happened to me before and I just nodded. Sorry for that if you're reading this, Chrase.

At any rate, I could highly recommend the place even though it's a bit tricky to find. It's right across the street from the Cebu Grand Hotel (I think). Just look for the Blue Angel sign off to the side of the road. It's a slightly remote location from other places but it's well worth the trip!

Thanks again Mort!

zackary kr

PS: as a side note, there does appear to be some sort of crackdown on barfines. I actually paid my bill including bf to the waitress. The girl met me outside on the street and didn't go out together with me from the bar. Cautious policy and I'm all for it if it helps to maintain good business.

Starchild2012
10-23-09, 12:26
I agree that DS' thread probably has the best, most current information on Davao, but it's important to come here with the correct set of expectations about what the city offers.

I've said this before, but I think it bears repeated for Davao newbies: if you're here looking strictly for P4P, you're probably better off staying in Manila or Cebu. Davao has it's share of sws and bar fine emporia, but not nearly as many as those two cities. Davao's major attraction for the non-resident (at least in my opinion) is that it's an easy place in which to meet and succeed with non-pro women. They're everywhere and they're extremely approachable. It may take a little game and a little patience, but only a very little.

DS has, through the years, provided some excellent tips on how to go about this: dress decently, be reasonably personable, take them out for a good meal, etc. In his case, this approach works almost all of the time. My only other bit of advice is never to be reticent. If you see someone here, in a mall, a restaurant, a bar, a club, and she appeals to you, then go over, buy her a drink and start talking. Unless she's already with someone else, it will take her typically about 30 seconds to invite you to sit down, and after that, it's all down hill.

There are lots of places where you can go to refine your style here, the bars on Torres St., Bar 183, and the bars around the Auto Shop being but three of innumerable possibilities. Just remember, these girls are not professionals, and it's never going to be a "sure thing," so the trick is not to treat them like hookers, to be as charming as possible, and not to rush things.

Davao is a great city. It's more laid back than Manila or Cebu and it's arguably much safer than either of those cities. However, it's not for everyone and if you're going to invest in coming here, it's important to know what to expect.

GE

Thanks GE i will hook on Davoa very soon as i'm starting to get many leads through DIA and FH.com which quality wise is much higher for me than what would i expect in Manila or cebu. Guess, not many mongers venture there...so its all for the taking who makes the first move :)

Member #4351
10-23-09, 15:32
Yes, barfines are against the law. In Stripes you have to slip the money to the chosen girl and go wait for her down the street...(2.000).

Jesi James
10-24-09, 02:43
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5 Guess, not many mongers venture there...so its all for the taking who makes the first move :)[/QUOTE]

Exactly what I thought. I recently went to Davao, be prepared to hear from almost ALL of your DIA and FH contacts "will you pay for the taxi there, because you are far from me". Davao is a very big city. I spent 5 days there and came back to Cebu. Good luck.

Buko Max
10-24-09, 04:27
PS: as a side note, there does appear to be some sort of crackdown on barfines.
There has been a series of raids recently and many bars are cautious!

Phantomtiger2
10-26-09, 18:00
I left Cebu (stayed at the Diplomat and yes the internet there is shit as I missed out on PMs by other ISG member staying at the same hotel at the same time).

The BF prices and stories are still a mystery to me. This happened at more than one bar Shark and I visited. For example: Went to the LoneStar bar with fellow ISG member Sharka and we both kinda sat in different corners to snoop out the place. Anyway, here is the weird shit. I asked about the BF and my waitress said it was 2700p with a mandatory extra tip for the girl after. Shark (working at a different corner and different waitress also ask about BF and was told BF 2500p all in-no tip after. So, two different stories from 2 different gals at the same bar and at the same time? Glad I didn't have to go back the following days and ask different gals there about the BF.


PT

The Rooster1
10-26-09, 18:33
Ok, before I forget,

Don't remember if I read this anywhere so will post it anyway (if this is a repeat post then look at this as a reminder).

Airport taxi to Cebu city. My First time in Cebu so had to admit I made a mistake in taking the wrong taxi into town.

As suggested by others, I passed all the touts asking for need taxi and kept walking until I thought I hit the legit airport taxi stand with several taxi parked in line as this was now away from all the touts. Taxi driver (not tout) ask if I need taxi and I said yes. Got in and although he had a meter, didn't turn it on as I've read it should be a fix rate from airport anywhere to city.

Got to my hotel to find out he wanted 350p?????--I said fix rate is 200p, he said no, but will give me 300p price instead since my hotel not too far.

He then said meter rate will be 300p , but I said you didn't use meter , he said I didn't ask him to.

OK, he got me there and I realize it was my blunder so can't afford to argue too much with him as he knows I can't win this one. But did manage to finally get it down to 250p with the help of the hotel staff as they was helping with my luggage.

So Lesson learned and for all you 1st timers to Cebu( like me), keep this list in mind.
1)Never assume taxi have set prices even if you heard it from others that price is set. Always ask beforehand what he will charge to your hotel before setting off to avoid surprises in the end.

2)If he have a meter, by all means tell him to turn it on.

3)The official airport taxis are YELLOW in color as the one I got on is white color (ordinary city taxi). But I suggest that even if you use the official Yellow airport taxi to confirm the price so less likely to be ripoff.

Note: the official airport taxi rate to city should be a set 200p with the Yellow color taxi and with any other color taxi(white or otherwise) remember you must tell him to use meter as their prices are NOT set and they can charge whatever they want.

4) Don't make the mistakes I made.

5)Have fun anyway

PTAs you walk out of the departure hall, walk to the taxi desk, walk right by it and cross the street via the walkway. Then walk up the stairs to the departures area and get a taxi that is dropping off passengers. White, yellow doesn't matter. Stick your head in the window and say use the meter and they will say yes. It's as easy as that if you haven't been to Cebu. I have never paid a fixed rate to Cebu from the airport, even once I used a taxi guy who tackled me as I was coming out. Just tell them, you only use the meter. Once I got a taxi to Cebu to pick up my house keys and then told him Talisay and he said its an extra fee which was bullshit, but after a long day of flying, I wasnt moving taxi's for 50 peso's.

Peace out!

The Rooster1
10-26-09, 18:44
I think you're right, Robb. Because the exact same thing happened to me at Temptations last night. I went there, sat down, had a drink. Then, I just casually asked (sometime later) what it would be like for taking out a girl. The bartender made the reply that she has no idea what I'm talking about. Then, she even started asking the other workers there!

I said to her, "Uhm, excuse me.. but, I definitely know there's a barfine here. She said , "Sorry, I'm new." A waitress came over, she didn't say anything and told me to ask the mamasan. Then finally, (good grief) the mamasan came over and even she wasn't sure about this barfine thing because she said she is "new".

That blew up a big "WTF" bubble over my head! I was really put off and just brooded for a while on the bar stool.

Finally, I asked, "Is it because I look Pinoy?" They said, "No sir, we know you are not Pinoy" ... blah blah blah.. yadda yadda yadda....

Anyways, eventually after more than 10 minutes, I just said I'd buy the girl a drink. And finally, I asked her and she told me the barfine... I have no idea what is going on.I was just at Vikings 2 days ago and a guy I met there barfined a girl right in front of me. And the waitress I always hang with and play pool with asked if I wanted to barfine a gal I was playing pool with, so no problems from this end. Just spent 17 days off work in Cebu and will post some later, just kind of drunk in the BKK airport lounge.

Peace out!

The Rooster1
10-26-09, 18:49
Try the Blue Angel Bikini Bar on North Escario Street a 40 peso ride from Ayalla. I didn't take out anything during my visit a few months ago but was impressed with what I saw then, although girls do come and go and current standards may not be the same. I was quoted 1750 pesos all inclusive for take out, which seems to be a much more competative price than the other clubs. (see my previous report for more details)Mortman,

I asked a couple taxi drivers about the Blue Angel Bikini Bar and they had no idea. One even called into headquarters.

Now I know the street and will definitely check it out in two weeks when Im back.

Thanks for the street.

Peace out!

Brymor
10-27-09, 08:57
Mortman,

I asked a couple taxi drivers about the Blue Angel Bikini Bar and they had no idea. One even called into headquarters.

Now I know the street and will definitely check it out in two weeks when Im back.

Thanks for the street.

Peace out!

Rooster and anyone else thinking of going to the Blue Angel Bar. My advice is to ask the taxi driver to go to the Cebu Grande Hotel, it is in North Escario Street and all the taxi drivers know this place. You then walk out from the hotel to the main road throw a right and then turn right again at the very next turning. The bar is literally behind the Cebu Grande Hotel and it is very safe even at night. Just goes to show from your post, even the taxi drivers do not always have all the latest information!
Mortman

X Man
10-27-09, 13:24
Can I ask how you first found out about this place?

In an adventerous mood, I barhopped down the Lapu Lapu strip and didn't find too much of interest for a non-filipino, other than Mermaid. I've also been tempted to search out the Mandaue tenderloin, esp the recommended Liza's Fun Pub.

I've even ventured into the Jonquerra area, from two different entrances -- on foot.

So I'm surprised to hear about this previously unknown bar which is so close to my regular Cebu haunting grounds. Thanks Mort

X


Just goes to show from your post, even the taxi drivers do not always have all the latest information!
Mortman

Jesi James
10-27-09, 15:21
They use landmarks here. Landmark, Cebu Pension Plaza, near Cebu Grand hotel, across from Hotel Maxwell. Nice enough place, met Max the new manager and Cris the owner. Shot a couple games of pool. I was the only customer during happy hour.

Jesi James
10-27-09, 15:23
Just down the road from Blue Angel bar was closed and locked this Tuesday evening at 8:00 pm. No sign, no security, no idea, just the facts.

Jesi James
10-27-09, 15:26
I've even ventured into the Jonquerra area, from two different entrances -- on foot.

Can you give more specific directions please to this area? Thanks.

Brymor
10-27-09, 21:04
Can I ask how you first found out about this place?

In an adventerous mood, I barhopped down the Lapu Lapu strip and didn't find too much of interest for a non-filipino, other than Mermaid. I've also been tempted to search out the Mandaue tenderloin, esp the recommended Liza's Fun Pub.

I've even ventured into the Jonquerra area, from two different entrances -- on foot.

So I'm surprised to hear about this previously unknown bar which is so close to my regular Cebu haunting grounds. Thanks Mort

X

X Man
I like to wander round on foot wherever I stay. I have been a regular customer at the Cebu Grande for the last three years and I noticed this bar on my second stay at the hotel. It is well lit with a large neon sign out the front. Because it is set just off the main road, you would never see it in daylight and it is only visible in the night if you travel towards Ayalla along Escario Street. When I visited the bar in August there were around a total of 10 girls in the bar and only about 5 customers. A very friendly and welcoming place and far better value than the other established bars in Cebu

Buko Max
10-28-09, 05:53
They use landmarks here. Landmark, Cebu Pension Plaza, near Cebu Grand hotel, across from Hotel Maxwell. Nice enough place, met Max the new manager and Cris the owner.
Look for a square blue neon "Blue Angels" sign at the side of the road.
They are just now getting the place dialed in.
Chris is the former owner of Silver Dollar.

The Rooster1
10-29-09, 01:06
Was there 3 times on my days off in Cebu and I will just add my 2 cents update. My buddy and I barfined 3 girls, 2 of them we knew already, for 700 peso's each for the next evening for a trip down south in Cebu. Mamason knows us very well, so we all figured out I think that if they know you it's a 700 peso early release (excuse my previous language). If they have no clue, they will try and get it all at once. But guess what, who holds the wallet? As with any p4p it better be all talked about up front so there are no suprises and were all on the same playing field. You don't like 2700 peso's, tell her you will give her 2300 peso's for the whole deal. Its just a different way of doing it.

Oh ya, so we couldn't get up early the next day and my phone was burning up and my RG got a hold of the phone, haha. Anyway, we met them around 700pm and took a trip. A 3 hour tour. Well I will say it was a long trip to eat, drink a couple drinks (because I was beat) and pop twice. But the girls loved it and they all looked smoking hot in the pool the next morning acting like kids. They had fun. So I was never asked for money and actually shut the door when we were dropped off and realized I should tip her. Being generous I payed her 2000 peso's and she said wow, so go figure. It was my only early work release in Cebu in 17 days off, sorry guys. Think I need to drop the GF, I mean RG.

But they have a great pool table and always a good time in the Lone Star.

Peace out!

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The Rooster1
10-29-09, 01:18
This bar is my hang out spot. Good reasonable drinks, no pressure and I like to shoot pool. I have only early-released out of here once and it was a waitress that didn't BF. I just wanted to feed her and she was good company. She stayed at the Marriott with me and I never touched her. Talk about some sweet looks the next night when I walked in the place. A lot of whispering and pointing. And of course, the non BF girl was all over me and wanted me that night and I refused. So it pays to be nice once in a while. Plus I like to have one bar I can hang in and not BF in.

One point. I met two guys on a trip through 4 cities that were mongering cities. It was their second night in Cebu and they had lots of questions. The only piece of advice I gave them was this: Buy the girl a drink, chat for a few minutes and feel them out and if your clicking then ask the questions. Do you BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, Stay all night, dress up in WR's outfits, whatever you want, just be up front with them. And they were stunned. Your in a bar where your picking up girls to spend a night with why leave any rocks unturned. They had huge smiles and used the advice because I met them at Lonestar and one had picked one up at Vikings and brought her with and he told me what he told her he was going to do to her. And she said, OK!

The Rooster1
10-29-09, 01:28
Went to the Sunflower on a thurs. Night with the RG, I wore my dance shoes this time, and we had a great time. Plenty and plenty of good quality girls in here, WOW! A live band was playing and they knew how to get the place hopping. I looked around and there were definitely a few tables with just girls at them. In these types of places I'm always a little hesitant to try and dance with a girl on the dance floor (if I'm alone or with friends) as I'm worried she might have a local guy there that I didn't notice. Any thoughts on this? Because there were plenty on the floor and if I get dancing I don't care who wants to dance with me, but some in the crowd might care.

Anway, definitely a place to check out if you haven't been. I like it better then Juliana's which I frequented once this trip also on a Friday night and it was packed as well. And yes, in the past I have had no problem meeting girls here. Pro's or non-pro's, even if their relaxing from a hard nights work.

Peace out!

Zackary Kr
10-29-09, 01:41
Just down the road from Blue Angel bar was closed and locked this Tuesday evening at 8:00 pm. No sign, no security, no idea, just the facts.

Well, I was just there about a week ago at around 8-9ish. In my case, the neon sign was turned on and it was open. I don't recall someone standing at the front door at the top of the stairs but I just walked in and everything was "normal".

I saw 2 western punters at one end, and 2 groups of asians seated on the couches. One of the groups of asians were definitely Korean. The other group looked Pinoy but I'm not sure. It was a 'smallish' bar with a small stage but a roomy middle part.

The girls that I was able to see were not to my taste but there were girls coming out of the backroom. Id rate most of the girls I saw to be about 5-7ish.

For me, at the time I visited, it had the worst pick of girls besides Dimples and the other bar directly to the back of it... i think it was called "Stars"?

X Man
10-29-09, 14:44
One band or two? Every time I've been there, two bands played.

Anyway, glad to hear you had a good time.

X


Went to the Sunflower on a thurs. Night with the RG, I wore my dance shoes this time, and we had a great time. Plenty and plenty of good quality girls in here, WOW! A live band was playing and they knew how to get the place hopping. I looked around and there were definitely a few tables with just girls at them. In these types of places I'm always a little hesitant to try and dance with a girl on the dance floor (if I'm alone or with friends) as I'm worried she might have a local guy there that I didn't notice. Any thoughts on this? Because there were plenty on the floor and if I get dancing I don't care who wants to dance with me, but some in the crowd might care.

Anway, definitely a place to check out if you haven't been. I like it better then Juliana's which I frequented once this trip also on a Friday night and it was packed as well. And yes, in the past I have had no problem meeting girls here. Pro's or non-pro's, even if their relaxing from a hard nights work.

Peace out!

Member #4351
10-29-09, 15:24
Yeah Zackary Kr, I noticed a drop in quality from my first to second visit. According to a girl I had made friends with, a lot of chicas were leaving because they didn´t like the new administration. I guess its like LOS in that the girls migrate. Maybe the door guy left as well.....

Kreole
10-30-09, 01:53
I have read numerous posts about BJ bars in Angeles City and am wondering if any exist in Cebu? And if so, where?

Thanks

Wicked Roger
10-30-09, 06:41
Went to the Sunflower on a thurs. Night with the RG, I wore my dance shoes this time, and we had a great time. Plenty and plenty of good quality girls in here, WOW! A live band was playing and they knew how to get the place hopping. I looked around and there were definitely a few tables with just girls at them. In these types of places I'm always a little hesitant to try and dance with a girl on the dance floor (if I'm alone or with friends) as I'm worried she might have a local guy there that I didn't notice. Any thoughts on this? Because there were plenty on the floor and if I get dancing I don't care who wants to dance with me, but some in the crowd might care.

Anway, definitely a place to check out if you haven't been. I like it better then Juliana's which I frequented once this trip also on a Friday night and it was packed as well. And yes, in the past I have had no problem meeting girls here. Pro's or non-pro's, even if their relaxing from a hard nights work.

Peace out!
Hi Rooster

I also like Sunflower as the bands are good and on the right days the girls are lovely. As for approaching I am wary but I do go and ask, but am a big fat bugger so maybe it gives me some 'protection' from a jealous local (I doubt it) and I am confident. However I am a shit dancer ....which sometimes helps in my favour

But for me "nothing ventureed nothing gained" or "if you dont ask you dont get"..so I do :D and sometimes I gain and get :)

But you are right to note some caution as the Filipinos can be a tad possessive and jealous at times. Even here in the UAE some of the guys are not keen of a western expats tries to chat to a group of girls in the FIlipino bars...

Wicked Roger
10-30-09, 06:51
One point. I met two guys on a trip through 4 cities that were mongering cities. It was their second night in Cebu and they had lots of questions. The only piece of advice I gave them was this: Buy the girl a drink, chat for a few minutes and feel them out and if your clicking then ask the questions. Do you BBBJ, CIM, ANAL, Stay all night, dress up in WR's outfits, whatever you want, just be up front with them.
Good advice Rooster. In fact you have stated what I always ask....without that menue agreement I am not that keen at times

As for my outfits...well I prefer to see them as elegant night wear for the discerning monger :D or just very kinky stuff thats makes them look hotter :D

Should be Cebu again in November and will bring more accessories with me for one of my favourites ...we have recently had a chat about which PVC dress she could wear around Ayala...was very educational...;) And she has sent me a link of a vibro spanker she wants me to bring for her backside....
well better than hurting my hand all the time and she does love a good hard spanking trust me

I am a gentleman so I will do as she asks...nothing to do with my sexual gratification of course :)

Buko Max
10-31-09, 07:09
I have read numerous posts about BJ bars in Angeles City and am wondering if any exist in Cebu? And if so, where?
Brilliant bar a few doors down from Mermaid in Lapu2X.

There are also short time rooms available at Silver Dollar, Blue Angeles and Liza's.

Buko Max
10-31-09, 07:13
One band or two? Every time I've been there, two bands played.
They are trying to keep a lid on their 200,000 php per month lighting bill. :eek:

Gogobarlover
11-01-09, 09:53
Hi,

I just came back from my recent trip to Cebu and had alot of fun. I just thought I share my experiences with you folks on here. There is GoGo bars in Mango Avenue, Downtown area near Fuente Osmena circle, Mandaue and Lapu Lapu area. I would recommend Mango Avenue as the best place to be in my opinion. Walking distance away, there is Mango Square where there is Julianas dance club and Pump 2 disco. Also, there is Karaoke bars to sing in this area. Julianas is the place to go to pickup girls or a girl from a gogo bar after she finishes work. Some of them don't go home right away and they go straight to Julianas. I stayed at the Beverly Boutique Hotel which is a 3 star hotel located on F. Manalo St. It's close to that big church (Iglesia ni Cristo) on Mango Avenue. After the church is a road you turn into which is F. Manalo St which will take you to Beverly Boutique Hotel. After this road is Papillion, Love City, Dimples and Club Star. Across the church is BGs, Vikings Club, Vikings Next Door and Erick the Red. There is also Hot Rods and Sisters Club. Also, if you are on the side that has BG and Viking Bar as you go further down pass the gas station, there is a road called Jacosalem St where there is another bar called Club Temptation.

FreebieFan
11-02-09, 03:23
And she has sent me a link of a vibro spanker she wants me to bring for her backside.

well better than hurting my hand all the time and she does love a good hard spanking trust me

I am a gentleman so I will do as she asks...nothing to do with my sexual gratification of course :)I have found that a metal 12 inch ruler does the job admirably.

Stays in my computer bag, doesnt attract any scrutiny from Customs, or the wife lol.

Web Connect
11-02-09, 06:25
WOW! A live band was playing and they knew how to get the place hopping. The band at Sunflower is NOT really playing the music. They are pretending to play. The only members on the band who are really performing live are the singers.

They play the same music everyday in he same order with out ever a mistake. They change band members often.

Best night to go is Thursdays when they have a Viva La Hot Babes contest.

Wicked Roger
11-02-09, 09:05
I have found that a metal 12 inch ruler does the job admirably.

Stays in my computer bag, doesnt attract any scrutiny from Customs, or the wife lol.
LOL

Yes agreed FF but she chose it specailly for her buttocks...and I am a gentleman (well IMHO :D) and I should let her have a present when I see her again :)

But I will now go out and buy a 12 inch ruler also ...;)

The Rooster1
11-05-09, 21:50
The band at Sunflower is NOT really playing the music. They are pretending to play. The only members on the band who are really performing live are the singers.

They play the same music everyday in he same order with out ever a mistake. They change band members often.

Best night to go is Thursdays when they have a Viva La Hot Babes contest.

Thats news to me. I will pay more attention next time as I was buzzed up and busy watching my hot ass regular girl dance. Now that I think about it, it sounded pretty damm good. Although, I'm use to Filipino bands rockin the house as they are incrediably talented.

Web Connect
11-06-09, 11:06
Thats news to me. I will pay more attention next time as I was buzzed up and busy watching my hot ass regular girl dance. Now that I think about it, it sounded pretty damm good. Although, I'm use to Filipino bands rockin the house as they are incrediably talented.Yeah there are a lot of great Filipino Cruise ship bands.

Most people don't notice it, but if you are a musician you will see it right away.

And on Thursday nights during the Hot Body Dance contest. If a Korean enters the contest. For sure she will win. The owner is Korean and I guess he wants to keep his countrymen happy.

It does'nt matter how hot a Filipina girl is. Or the amount of applause she gets. All a Korean has to do is enter to win. Check it out for yourself.

Pete Benetar
11-07-09, 22:12
Just completed my first dedicated mongering trip (and first to PI), staying in Makati (? ) area if Manila, at the Pan Pacific.

I was more than happy with the girls available, but not thrilled with the very short walk for example between the LA cafe and the hotel. This is six blocks max and having just ran the Marine Corp Marathon a few weeks ago, the walk is not the issue. On a few occasions, I had street sellers/hustlers/beggars or whatev literally following me for blocks despite avoiding any interaction whatsoever.

I would love to have the same level of "commodities" available, and am wondering, since I'm an FNG, if Angelas City or Cebu are a bit more "civil" than Makati in their respective red light areas.

Mr Hawaii
11-08-09, 07:05
Just completed my first dedicated mongering trip (and first to PI), staying in Makati (? ) area if Manila, at the Pan Pacific.

I was more than happy with the girls available, but not thrilled with the very short walk for example between the LA cafe and the hotel. This is six blocks max and having just ran the Marine Corp Marathon a few weeks ago, the walk is not the issue. On a few occasions, I had street sellers/hustlers/beggars or whatev literally following me for blocks despite avoiding any interaction whatsoever.

I would love to have the same level of "commodities" available, and am wondering, since I'm an FNG, if Angelas City or Cebu are a bit more "civil" than Makati in their respective red light areas.

Pete - I have been going to Manila and Cebu for 20 years, and found the best way to handle beggars in Manila is to not even acknowledge their existence. DO NOT reply, don't even look at them. Never had them follow me for more than a few steps. Cebu will be better, in my opinion. Manila is so crowded that the beggars know where the foreigners hang out..same with Cebu, but have only encountered an occasional female and baby begging on Mango avenue. Cebu is pretty spread out. If you go, find a central location near Mango Ave. Midtown Hotel is good but they started charging for the girls you bring back. Good luck. Congrats. on the Marathon!!

Kreole
11-08-09, 19:30
I would greatly appreciate some information on where to meet women in Cebu, aside from the girls working in shops and offices. Rather than waste a lot of time visiting different bars and clubs, I would like to get some advice as to the BEST clubs or massage parlors to meet available girls. For those of you who are familiar with Cebu you can appreciate not wasting a lot of time going to overly expensive places or dumps. It is much better to at least have a little information about the territory.

What I would like to know is where are your favorite places where there are attractive, available girls who do not cost more than $30 short time, including bar fine (2-3 hours). I just saw my retirement disappear with the economic downturn and thus find myself in a less than desirable economic situation. I realize that once I pay the bar fine and have a session with the girl, then I may be able to negotiate time with her without the bar fine. It just puts more money in her pocket and allows for more flexibility.

Thanks for any and all information.

X Man
11-09-09, 11:14
Kreole, you can meet women anywhere. Just talk to them. It's not so difficult.


I would greatly appreciate some information on where to meet women in Cebu, aside from the girls working in shops and offices. Rather than waste a lot of time visiting different bars and clubs, I would like to get some advice as to the BEST clubs or massage parlors to meet available girls. For those of you who are familiar with Cebu you can appreciate not wasting a lot of time going to overly expensive places or dumps. It is much better to at least have a little information about the territory.

What I would like to know is where are your favorite places where there are attractive, available girls who do not cost more than $30 short time, including bar fine (2-3 hours). I just saw my retirement disappear with the economic downturn and thus find myself in a less than desirable economic situation. I realize that once I pay the bar fine and have a session with the girl, then I may be able to negotiate time with her without the bar fine. It just puts more money in her pocket and allows for more flexibility.

Thanks for any and all information.

Member #4491
11-11-09, 03:17
Kreole, the only evening I spent in Cebu I was walking in the area of Mango Plaza. You have to blind and retarded not to find a pretty girl who fuck you for 30 USD there.

During the 1-1.5 hours I spent in the area I could have picked up at least ten girls that all where both pretty and young.

Don't even waste time worrying about this Kreole.

Barba

Asheron
11-11-09, 21:29
Hi,

I am looking for a good quality hotel in Cebu,

With massage service + extra

My wife is will be coming, and I don't want her to suspect anything

Thanks

Wicked Roger
11-12-09, 02:26
Kreole, the only evening I spent in Cebu I was walking in the area of Mango Plaza. You have to blind and retarded not to find a pretty girl who fuck you for 30 USD there.

During the 1-1.5 hours I spent in the area I could have picked up at least ten girls that all where both pretty and young.

Don't even waste time worrying about this Kreole.

BarbaKreole

I agree with Barba. Even go to the malls, walk around, smile and you pick them up. Or DIA etc the day you are there. This proves very lucrative for me

Barba. You mean you did not take any of the ten girls. Maybe you should have WR with you as your moral guidance counsellor. He would have sorted your priorities out.