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Kreole
02-23-10, 20:08
Been a while since posting, Ok a few years but who's counting. But for this trip I owe total credits to both this and the DS forum. Big Thanks to previous posters and both boards.

Background. Long term monger, late 40's, in good shape, based in Vietnam working regionally around Asia. I'm not sure why I write this but others do. I guess it's so people can relate. "Wow he's 50 and overweight and he banged the Cebu cheerleading team so I can too. " Or "he's 75 and living with those teenage bondage triplets" I guess context is important.

Trip time. Mid Feb. 10 days. Location Cebu. First time Cebu. First time DIA.

Flew from HCMC to Manila then on to Cebu.

I got on the plane (PAL) thinking I'd better warm up by having a crack at the hostesses. Actually I always have a crack at the hostesses with low but occasional success.

Well 2 hostesses in 2 years. 1 Vietnam. 1 Korean. Both semi girl friend type relationships.

(Note on VN airlines the hostesses usually get together and have a little, apparently funny ceremony to dump all the business cards they get on a flight, and to joke about the people attached to them, the lines used etc The cute little minxes have a cruel streak. The odds are against you. Official company policy is dismissal for keeping business cards)

But, this is Asia, anything is possible with a bit of game, the wind in the right direction and especially if you fly a lot.

Flew PAL business class because being Tet, everything was full.

Get on the plane to find the hosties are about 110 years old each, pot-boilers they're called in Australia. A lot of mileage on them, some of it possibly from flying. Tried to avoid eye contact as scared for own safety. Not too keen to practise witty repartee or ask about phone companies.

Food, surprisingly good.

Domestic flight, Manila Cebu, very cute hostesses but full plane and pointless to try as a result.

Cebu.

My purpose was to try out DIA and mall hunting, a change of sport really and to see the realities of each.

Mall hunting.

First stop. Ayalla Mall. Set out as hunter but on arrival quickly realized I was prey. Pursued by 2 lady boys with their kind of sidewinder walk. Narrow escape into National books. Then outside again pursued by the PAL hostesses ex bar girl friends I'm assuming. Overage bar girls. You don't hear much about the overage bar girl but they're out there I can tell you. These had to be in their late 50's. More gum, than teeth. Second escape. Duration in Ayala so far, about 3 minutes.

Went over to Bo's coffee, later to be renamed Ho's coffee due to the number and assortment of girls there. A mix of young and old. Definitely up for it.

One particularly nice girl sat down next to me and decided to bust Ayala cherry and sat down began talking. 15 minutes later she had her legs over my shoulders and was saying something poetic like "F. K me! F k me! "

So I did, twice.

A good experience with a 20 year old mall cruiser. Fun and playful. Sent her off with 1000 and 100 for taxi.

Total GFE experience if dumping ones load on some girls face counts as that.

Total time spent at Ayala. Less than an hour. Total time spent in hotel. 2 hours.

Time for Ciallis and having relieved the initial pressure went back to study Ayala properly.

After a few days observed Ayalla, and other malls have their own Ho ecosystems. Permanent professional mall crusing Ho's, part time mall cruising Ho's, a selection of random visiting girls (not Ho's in their own heads) but often not unfamiliar with short term dating, shop girls, promotional girls, window shopping girls, rent is due girls, boyfriend shopping girls, boyfriend just left me girls, husband shopping girls etc

Some great girls can be found.

Day 2. A really great girl. Decided Bo's coffee a bit too easy, hardcore and obvious so moved location to Seattles Best coffee to attempt more regular girls.

A group of promotional girls in their uniforms pass by handing out leaflets. One I think is super hot so head off in pursuit to ask inane questions about inane product.

Numbers exchanged, date set.

Now this girl was model quality, 20 with an actual job. She asked me to pick her up from office that night then busted a great line, about not being able to go out in her promotional outfit. The super cute minx was playing me but decided to head to department store with her to purchase going out clothes.

1400 pesos later she had a full wardrobe, (including sexy bra and panties), obviously my idea, which she tried to resist. A lot of protesting and laughter involved. Without the bra and panties cost would've been about 900.

Dinner then back to hotel. She tried doing the good girl approach but this lasted for 10 minutes. After all, had to see what the new bra/panty set looked like.

All night action, very little sleep. Great night.

Ended up seeing her again. Up until and a little beyond, the, "I love you so much point. "

Is it just me or do Filipino girls declare they love you faster than anywhere else?

Day 1. 2 girls. 5 pops.

DIA.

Declaration. Never tried internet dating before. Following sage advice here put profile on DIA about 8 days before flying.

Surprised at large number of responses and realized this could become super time consuming. Even worse cutting and pasting is mostly blocked.

Set guidelines for myself. No chatting. No more than 2 sentence responses. No webcam. No blah, blah, blah.

Just, I'm coming Would love to meet you variations.

In 9 days gained a shortlist of 10 DIA girls, and a longer list of another 10.

Could've got more but it was becoming actual work.

In between Day 1, first mall girl txted six of them giving my number and did they want to meet. 4 did.

2 no replies.

Day 2.

Breakfast. 1st DIA girl. Looked nothing like her DIA photo and more like she'd eaten the original girl. I wanted to say this, but being on best behaviour, I didn't.

Made up sorry have to go to work excuse and bailed. Gave her 200 for her taxi and to get rid of her.

Phew that was close.

Later DIA girl number 2. Vaguely resembled photo but seemed to have acquired severe acne which she apologized for. Nice body, so I was thinking well she'd look all right from behind, beautiful long hair. But she gave me the 'oh I've had bad experience when a guy invited her back to his hotel and took his clothes off. ' So offered to do her with my clothes on, well no not really, instead being a total gentleman gave her taxi money and sent on her way.

DIA girl 3. She turned up with her aunt and aunties daughter in tow. Again bigger than original photo but very pretty. Occupation housemaid.

She must have txted me 20, 000 times after the original meeting and sure with more effort she was doable.

Met another 2 DIA girls on day one. Both quite cute.

New Cunning Plan.

I could see the DIA can easily pay off but does require more effort than mall hunting. But then had the cunning plan. The apple falling from the tree moment.

Shopgirls. Given my promotional girl success and all I'd learnt from her I thought I'm going to spend a few hours solely focused on girls who work in shops.

Think about it. Captive audience. Mostly bored. Low pay. Surrounded by shiny things to buy. Locations. Ayala, Robinsons. The other mall beginning with G. My strategy was to only try girls who didn't look attainable, who were in my eyes top of the range and out of my league. In fact the more unattainable looking the better. Then to work down from there as opposed to working up from what I perceived as attainable girls.

Bingo.

Spotted extremely hot girl working in shop selling something ridiculous, that only Filipinos could buy. And no, I'm not going to elaborate.

Beautiful long curly hair, well dressed, hot body. 22 years old.

After one of the world's strangest conversations she agreed to a coffee. Actually she said no 5 times and it was only when I pointed this out in a funny way, she agreed.

Now I've worked with Filipinos in 3 countries and learnt that saying things that would make me vomit on my own bare feet, make Filipinos go mushy eyed and sentimental. Nothing, absolutely nothing, is verbally too cheesy for a Filipino. A bit like their food.

I ended up taking this girl out to 3 dinners and 3 coffees before finally getting a kiss and luring her into the Marriot for a few days.

Valentines Day Massacre.

I wake up on Valentines day to find 27 Happy Valentines Day txt messages. Seriously. I can imagine for the long term Philippine monger there must be hundreds of messages.

Who had I been giving my number to?

But the real dilemma was between Promo girl and shopgirl. Who for the key night time slot? By this time Promo girl hadn't busted into marriage fantasy and shop girl didn't look like ever putting out. Note: I told every girl up front I wasn't a marriage candidate and at best possibly a girlfriend relationship.

Solved the issue with a coin toss and had Valentines Day lunch with shop girl and dinner all night major league sex session with promo girl.

Conclusions.

Overall excellent.

Accomodation.

First Hotel. Cebu Grand. A bit like a small Nana without the service. A run down pretty skanky hotel but with large rooms and total monger friendliness. Water in small swimming pool like a bacteria pond. Front doorman, the nicest guy in Cebu. Front desk staff, the opposite.

2nd Hotel. Moved to Marriot.

Not really a great hotel but with primo location for Ayala. Stroll over to Ayala, have a coffee, walk back with a girl.

High convenience factor.

Obviously a lot of guys following the same path. A few with extremely nice girls.

Over a few days, I saw quite a few girls leaving the Marriot with big smiles on their faces and large chocolate bars in hands. Kudos to the Toblerone King. Judging by number of girls I saw leaving the Marriot with super sized Toblerone bars someone was making a good effort.

The experience was fun. Especially mall, shop girl hunting. Only one good DIA success but this due lack of effort and time, more than anything else.

I'll go see shop girl again. Maybe take her on a decent holiday. Who would've guessed.

Next trip, I plan to try Davao and go a bit more provincial.

A word of caution.

The front page story in the local Cebu newspaper was about recent upsurge of Aids in Cebu. I heard a couple of girls talk about it. One said it was because some westerners had been screwing junkies. I don't know the truth and accuracy of any of this but on a where there's smoke there's fire principle, take care, out there.

Apologies for ending on a down note. I'm sure the local Philippine Mongers have a more accurate understanding of the situation.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.This was a great report in my experience. Not only do you have a good sense of humor and delivery, but you are right on in your perceptions. I just got back from my first trip and spent 3 months in the Visayas using Cebu as my jump off point. I will post later once I get used to being back in the land of diminished expectations (US). Anyway thanks for a thoroughly good read. Hopefully we can share notes one day. All the best.

Robbaf
02-23-10, 22:36
Been a while since posting, Ok a few years but who's counting. But for this trip I owe total credits to both this and the DS forum. Big Thanks to previous posters and both boards.

Is it just me or do Filipino girls declare they love you faster than anywhere else?
Good report and I think your observations on Filipinia's are right on point.

I was in Cebu last week for 4 days. I saw 7 girls and only repeated with one and now she is texting me "I m so in luv wit u".... I texted her "What is up with that text?" and she replied "Sorry I just feel like I love you".

Welcome to the Philippines:)

Robb

Ben2
02-23-10, 23:42
Good report and I think your observations on Filipinia's are right on point.

I was in Cebu last week for 4 days. I saw 7 girls and only repeated with one and now she is texting me "I m so in luv wit u".... I texted her "What is up with that text?" and she replied "Sorry I just feel like I love you".

Welcome to the Philippines:)

Robb

It has NOTHING to do with Filipinas....every country in the world...men and women experience the same thing...."fall in love quickly and get me the hell out of this situation I am in!" When I go to China, France, England, same thing happens every once in a while....."I love you and want to spend my life with you!" Gesh....big, bald headed fat guy and they love me??? Shiittt! Money buys love I guess!
Don't forget the 3 F's; feed 'em, fuck 'em and forget 'em!
AND MOST OF ALL....don't get 'em pregnant unless you're a stand up man and will to take responsibility! (which we all know....most are not)

Buko Max
02-24-10, 01:13
Is it just me or do Filipino girls declare they love you faster than anywhere else?
Thanks for taking the time to post your excellent report!
Yes that is a major flaw in Cebuanas and the reason why the GFE is first-rate.

Cebu Grand is one of the oldest hotels in town and is family owned. They do have some new referbished rooms available but they are twice the price of the old rooms. They will usually give you a discount if you ask.


But today I was bored and looked at this Cebu thread and every single post was on useful information or reports about girls.
Welcome back to the board and look forward to contributions from you in the future!

Cheapy
02-24-10, 07:39
For a litle adventure and lower prices, check out Colon area. Take taxi to Hotel de Mercedes, 7 Pelaez Street. Across the street is Hers and His Bikini Bar (upstairs). Very local and girls show muff, tits and ass. However, tough to barfine.

Streetwalkers are available ST for 500p. Companion girl will try to collect mamasan fee of 200p (no need). Can take to your hotel or use local Sogo Hotel for ST rate.

If you are the clean-cut type, take a wingman. Poor area.

Cebu Bakini Bar updates:

Stripes. Many chunky girls and empty

Sisters. Girl named April is superfine / barfine 1700p/ST 1000p

Silver Dollar. Improved with some hot girls, barfine still 750p/ST 1000p. I took Marla, who is smart and a wannabe pornstar!

Enjoy

Redman69
02-24-10, 19:11
Parnellcat thank you for a great report on Cebu. You hit the essence of what I look forward to in my retirement in South PI.

Setting goal of shop girls. Being hunted and not hunting. Like being in a candy store.

Sharka
02-25-10, 01:51
.

A word of caution.

The front page story in the local Cebu newspaper was about recent upsurge of Aids in Cebu. I heard a couple of girls talk about it. One said it was because some westerners had been screwing junkies. I don't know the truth and accuracy of any of this but on a where there's smoke there's fire principle, take care, out there.

Apologies for ending on a down note. I'm sure the local Philippine Mongers have a more accurate understanding of the situation.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.Yes In Philly it is on the rise as the countrie's Catholic teaching have something to do with it (the non-use of condoms etc)

But in general, alot of the Asian countries are on the rise. Cambodia is pretty bad right now and Thailand is not getting any better. China is reportedly having some problems within some provinces (but China's censorship denies this). So, best to always be careful as it only takes ONE unlucky lady to end it all for you.

Shark

Superman06
02-25-10, 12:52
Been a while since posting, Ok a few years but who's counting. But for this trip I owe total credits to both this and the DS forum. Big Thanks to previous posters and both boards...


Fantastic information Parnellcat! I'll also be prowling the malls and hopefully meet a few of my DIA contacts in early March. Hmmm...think I'll hit a coffee shop after I arrive.

Bronxnik
02-25-10, 19:27
The article in the Cebu Sun Star quoted no verified numbers, no verified named sources, and. Said the rise is amongst LOCALS who work together as Call Center Agents all night.

The mathematically challenged never believe this. And you haven't paid me enough to play math tutor, so I'm not going to try to demonstrate it, although the demonstration is simple and intuitive. But once the INCIDENCE of a disease goes lower than the FALSE-POSITIVE-RATE of its diagnostic test. The test loses all of its "positive predictive value".

If you get a positive HIV-seroconversion test result from (hetero) activities you did in Cebu City. The chances are better than 50% that it's a false positive.

HIV testing is expensive. I for one am rather skeptical that there's much of it going on here. Heck, they don't even spend the coupla bucks it takes to freeze/cauterize extremely ugly moles off their faces. Perhaps they feel the money is better spent on shoveling more white rice down. A presidential candidate recently pointed out that white rice is obesity/diabetes waiting to happen. He's obviously going to lose.

Sharka
02-26-10, 01:12
The mathematically challenged never believe this.

If you get a positive HIV-seroconversion test result from (hetero) activities you did in Cebu City. The chances are better than 50% that it's a false positive.The real point about this whole discussion is not the statistic values as anything over 0% is bad news, it's about the fact that Aids is not to be toyed with and it is certainly on the rise in many Asian countries. And just because it's a better than 50% chance of a false result won't make me feel safer as this is still a large #.(more like flipping a coin to decide if results are right or wrong).

To give a good example: it's been estimated that over 5% (perhaps as high as 10%) of WG in Cambodia are HIV carriers. Even based on the low figure of 5% =that is 1 working girl in 20 and I often do more than 20 different ladies when I'm there so I'm not going to play the odds. Best to protect one self and sleep easier.---IMO

Shark

Kreole
02-26-10, 20:04
The article in the Cebu Sun Star quoted no verified numbers, no verified named sources, and. Said the rise is amongst LOCALS who work together as Call Center Agents all night.

The mathematically challenged never believe this. And you haven't paid me enough to play math tutor, so I'm not going to try to demonstrate it, although the demonstration is simple and intuitive. But once the INCIDENCE of a disease goes lower than the FALSE-POSITIVE-RATE of its diagnostic test. The test loses all of its "positive predictive value".

If you get a positive HIV-seroconversion test result from (hetero) activities you did in Cebu City. The chances are better than 50% that it's a false positive.

HIV testing is expensive. I for one am rather skeptical that there's much of it going on here. Heck, they don't even spend the coupla bucks it takes to freeze/cauterize extremely ugly moles off their faces. Perhaps they feel the money is better spent on shoveling more white rice down. A presidential candidate recently pointed out that white rice is obesity/diabetes waiting to happen. He's obviously going to lose.Curiously, before I went to the Philippines, I did some research for the incidence of AIDS there. According to the "official" health statistics, the Philippines is one of the lowest in the world. I have crossed checked two official sources and they had the same incidence of 0. 112 per 1, 000 people (2003). But 2003 is 7 years ago and I think that the RP keeps lousy stats since I doubt that there is any routine checking as in some other countries. This statistic flies in the face of the most toxic mix of corruption and catholicism which means that the money does not go to health care or reliable stats and that the catholic church insures that there will always be a plentiful supply of poor children born there for the lack of contraception, like condom use.

So, my conclusion is that the HIV rate is certainly higher than the official record and that due to the poor testing results one is not likely to get any accurate data on the subject until some independent group does the testing. I did not want to get tested in the RP because I had heard of the alarming rate of false positives, not only for HIV, but for other diseases. No point in paying for a heart attack to accompany the bad news. For what it is worth.

Red Kilt
02-27-10, 13:08
.....and just say that Shark is right in the fact that AIDs is not something to take lightly and its a real risk and danger so do be careful out there.

I agree wholeheartedly. There is a large group of OFW seamen who regularly return home to the Philippines to spend some of their hard-earned cash in the girls in the population. The ships stop off at places in Africa and PNG where there is a known and validated high incidence of HIV in the population.
I don't care much what the statistics say about HIV in the Phils - I just know that it has to be lurking in some members of the WG population and that means it can also be lurking in the population at large.
Bottom line is I ALWAYS use a condom.
I dont wish to take my chances with any one girl whether she is a bg, a freelancer or even a non-professional girl because she may well have had a liaison with one of these carriers from outside who prefer not to use condoms.

Superman06
02-28-10, 20:16
How well does Skype work in Cebu and in the Philippines in general?

ManonsanBoy
02-28-10, 20:24
I agree wholeheartedly. A non-professional girl because she may well have had a liaison with one of these carriers from outside who prefer not to use condoms.


The lo wprevalance reported may be a colusion with the church to discourage people from wearing condoms.

Chocha Monger
02-28-10, 21:50
I agree wholeheartedly. There is a large group of OFW seamen who regularly return home to the Philippines to spend some of their hard-earned cash in the girls in the population. The ships stop off at places in Africa and PNG where there is a known and validated high incidence of HIV in the population.
I don't care much what the statistics say about HIV in the Phils - I just know that it has to be lurking in some members of the WG population and that means it can also be lurking in the population at large.
Bottom line is I ALWAYS use a condom.
I dont wish to take my chances with any one girl whether she is a bg, a freelancer or even a non-professional girl because she may well have had a liaison with one of these carriers from outside who prefer not to use condoms.
Good advice! These girls get bareback ridden and cream pied on a regular basis by diseased foreigners and locals alike. Anyone who thinks that they are the only one fucking these girls has to be incredibly stupid. If you fuck skinless in the Philippines you will eventually come down with a disease. It is a matter of luck whether that disease happens to be the clap or AIDS.

GregLondon
03-01-10, 09:41
How well does Skype work in Cebu and in the Philippines in general?

works fine nio problemsd if you havre reasonable wifi

GoodEnough
03-01-10, 12:23
I've been using Skype for years here, and I use Skype Out to call the US at 2.1 cents a minute. It works fine.
GE

Robbaf
03-02-10, 22:39
i am so tired of guys thinking girls are here to be abused. some asshole drugged a friend of mine from silver dollar last weekend and she is still sick 5 days later. she remembers going home with him and he poured her a drink and offered her some drugs and she declined. when she woke up the next morning, she said she was sick and stayed in bed one day and then she went to the hospital. she don't think she was raped, but she quit the bar saying she can't handle going out anymore. sad shit guys and i hope if a bm is doing this shit, they get their just dues:(

robb

Nyc Expat
03-02-10, 22:50
I am so tired of guys thinking girls are here to be abused. Some asshole drugged a friend of mine from Silver Dollar last weekend and she is still sick 5 days later. :(
Robb

Doesn't the SD have security cameras so they can see whom she left with? It's a start to catch the individual. These cameras must be SOP with so many tourists and young girls.

Robbaf
03-02-10, 22:57
Doesn't the SD have security cameras so they can see whom she left with? It's a start to catch the individual. These cameras must be SOP with so many tourists and young girls.
Same thing that I asked her and I asked if he was a regular and she said no he was a tourist and left Cebu the next day. She is ashamed to tell the mommasan and feels like it was her fault for going with him. I will be in Cebu tomorrow and she is going to meet me for dinner and hopefully I can talk to her and get more details.

Robb

Wicked Roger
03-04-10, 17:12
Same thing that I asked her and I asked if he was a regular and she said no he was a tourist and left Cebu the next day. She is ashamed to tell the mommasan and feels like it was her fault for going with him. I will be in Cebu tomorrow and she is going to meet me for dinner and hopefully I can talk to her and get more details.

Robb
Well done Robb, just hope he was not an ISG man.....

If you do catch up with my friend please warn her also, one of her gfs is ex SD dancer and she knows a few ladies. As you said they are 'shy' to tell anyone especially friends, so telling my friend about it will spread the word through the local jungle drums - I could but then how do I know this as am not Cebu....Catch you soon

Robbaf
03-05-10, 03:29
Well done Robb, just hope he was not an ISG man.....

If you do catch up with my friend please warn her also, one of her gfs is ex SD dancer and she knows a few ladies. As you said they are 'shy' to tell anyone especially friends, so telling my friend about it will spread the word through the local jungle drums - I could but then how do I know this as am not Cebu....Catch you soon
I haven't talked to her yet as my dance card is very full....I don't want to start with her if I can't meet her. I am working here today.

Update...I went to SD and the girl wasn't there and won't answer her cell...I asked about her and the momma san said she was on vacation:( I hope she is good.

Robbaf
03-05-10, 03:33
Finally Pussycats has opened here in Cebu. The opening was delayed one week and the grand opening is next week. Last night there was 40 girls and at least half were smoking hot. I saw five that I knew from Abusir and BG's that transferred over, but lots of new girls.

The makeover of the old Star Bar turned out very well. It is one of the best now in Cebu. I met up with the SD owner there and he didn't feel good about it, but I told not to worry as he is the only game in town at 1100:D

Robb

Red Kilt
03-05-10, 07:27
Finally Pussycats has opened here in Cebu. .......the makeover of the old Star Bar turned out very well. It is one of the best now in Cebu. I met up with the SD owner there and he didn't feel good about it, but I told not to worry as he is the only game in town at 1100:D

Robb

Great news. I will be in Cebu next week so I must drop by and take a look. I have tended to avoid that group of bars on Mango (Papillon etc) after my initial trips because of the hard lady drink pressure from girls and mamasans. Just keep on going to Lone Star or cross the road to Vikings.
Tell SD owner not to worry. He has outstayed most other bars in Cebu city and SD is always mentioned when the topics of bars in Cebu is mentioned.

Brymor
03-06-10, 17:16
Guys
I am returning to Cebu for two or three weeks this coming May and I am in eager anticipation.
Just wondered if any of you can recommend any decent accomodation in and around Moalboal. I don't want to travel too far from Cebu City but would really like a few days on a nice beach and I am sick to death of the ugly mud flats on Mactan. How they can call these things a beach is beyond me. I am not a diver (in the true sense of the word) so those kind of facilities are not important.
I will be bringing my own girl so I will not have need of any action locally and would like to find somewhere close to a nice beach, safe, reasonable amenities such as air con, a swimming pool, TV in the room and not high end prices like the Waterfront. Don't mind paying around 3000 per night max.
If you have any suggestions please let me know, feel free to PM me if you don't want to clutter up the board.
Thanks
Mortman

Questor 55
03-06-10, 22:23
Guys

I am returning to Cebu for two or three weeks this coming May and I am in eager anticipation.

Just wondered if any of you can recommend any decent accomodation in and around Moalboal. I don't want to travel too far from Cebu City but would really like a few days on a nice beach and I am sick to death of the ugly mud flats on Mactan. How they can call these things a beach is beyond me. I am not a diver (in the true sense of the word) so those kind of facilities are not important.

I will be bringing my own girl so I will not have need of any action locally and would like to find somewhere close to a nice beach, safe, reasonable amenities such as air con, a swimming pool, TV in the room and not high end prices like the Waterfront. Don't mind paying around 3000 per night max.

If you have any suggestions please let me know, feel free to PM me if you don't want to clutter up the board.

Thanks

MortmanQUO VADIS RESORT is a possibility, Mortman.

Very comfortable units with ac. For around 1700/day. Pleasant grounds,

Nice views, swimming pool, girl friendly. Located near the southern end of the area. Beach is not a strand, but some rock outcroppings and sandy areas. Quiet around this location. Good restaurant next door. Most clients are German speaking divers, and okay to chat with. I plan to return.

Perfect, if you want to relax and put in a lot of sack time.

Robbaf
03-07-10, 01:31
I was bar hopping last night with 6 friends and we went into Hotrods. I would guess to say that there was 35 punters (mixed...mostly Asian) and about 25 to 30 girls and NO air conditioning.....It was easy 90 degrees F and NO air moving. We ordered a round and before the drinks were delivered I called the Momma over and she said that the Air Con was broke...WTF??? I counted 6 A/C units in my first glance around the room...we parted before the drinks arrived. We had already hit 4 bars and we were dropping around 3000P in each bar...to me this is another example of Filipino business sense, save 1000P on AC and lose 5000P on sales each day. I am tired of going into a bar that opens at 8-9 PM and find that they turned off their fridge when they closed and just turned them on when they opened and oh by the way, are stocking it NOW with hot beer.

It seems that most bars in Cebu this week haven't seen the need to turn on the AC...I walk in and ask first now....I don't want to spend my money in a hot smokey bar...if I wanted to be hot I would go to a outdoor bar.

Robb

SergeantRay
03-07-10, 05:00
The karaoke place I hang out at is notorious for unplugging the fridge at night in order to "save electricity." We had an American tell them, "Look, I work in refrigeration. You're better off leaving the fridge plugged in." To no avail.

Amjeck
03-07-10, 09:54
Anyone know of a gym in cebu that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?

Ender
03-07-10, 23:35
In all honesty, I would not hassle my way over the mountain and traffic to get to Moalboal when you can simply take one of the fast ferries (Supercat is my fav) and for about 500p and 2 hours later you will be in Tagbilaran only 25min from Alona and Panglao which has the nicest beach this side of Boracay. Plenty of great places to stay in Alona. There is also the BBC (Bohol Beach Club) just down the road.

-Ender


Guys
I am returning to Cebu for two or three weeks this coming May and I am in eager anticipation.
Just wondered if any of you can recommend any decent accomodation in and around Moalboal. I don't want to travel too far from Cebu City but would really like a few days on a nice beach and I am sick to death of the ugly mud flats on Mactan. How they can call these things a beach is beyond me. I am not a diver (in the true sense of the word) so those kind of facilities are not important.
I will be bringing my own girl so I will not have need of any action locally and would like to find somewhere close to a nice beach, safe, reasonable amenities such as air con, a swimming pool, TV in the room and not high end prices like the Waterfront. Don't mind paying around 3000 per night max.
If you have any suggestions please let me know, feel free to PM me if you don't want to clutter up the board.
Thanks
Mortman

Member #4147
03-08-10, 00:12
Not sure of the cost.


Anyone know of a gym in cebu that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?

Buko Max
03-08-10, 02:24
In all honesty, I would not hassle my way over the mountain and traffic to get to Moalboal...
Would have to agree with Ender in that if you are not going to dive or see the falls, there is no reason to travel as far as Moalboal. Bohol is always a great choice but if you want a quiet beach getaway, there are many choices within an hours drive north or south of metro Cebu.

LuvDaPuss
03-08-10, 03:50
Been here in Cebu for a few days and things are somewhat slower paced here compared to Manila. Seems I am more at ease here and that is good. I want to thank Rooster 1 for the info on the Maxwell Hotel. It is everything he decribed. Only a minor issue was getting here from the airport because it is somewhat new the taxi driver had to ask around where it was. The place is clean, modern, 2300p and directly across from Blue Angels. Nice fishing hole as I caught a beauty last night and I'm not really a bar type of guy. 750p barfine and 1200 to her and all is well with my world. I was the first one there at 6:30 and I was sound asleep by 9. Nice.

Buko Max
03-08-10, 04:56
I was bar hopping last night with 6 friends and we went into Hotrods.
Didn't think you would have a second go at Hotrod after your first glowing review! :confused: Thanks for the report!

Spry Man
03-08-10, 11:00
I have used the gym in Marriott Hotel next to Ayala, quite well equipped but more about aerobic exercise than weights which are fairly limited. I prefer the gym at the Waterfront Hotel in Lahug which is open 24 hours and costs 300 pesos for a day pass, which also includes use of the Hotel pool.

Catire
03-08-10, 13:17
Anyone know of a gym in cebu that you can use on a day pass? Any hotels got any fitness centers in them?

you can try True Fitness on top floor of the Ayala Mall.

they'll probably massively overcharge you for anything short term though.

It is a nice facility, though in massive need of better air flow/air conditioning.

if you have mobility, try Holiday Spa up the road toward Banilad.

Superman06
03-08-10, 13:41
Finally Pussycats has opened here in Cebu. The opening was delayed one week and the grand opening is next week. Last night there was 40 girls and at least half were smoking hot. I saw five that I knew from Abusir and BG's that transferred over, but lots of new girls.

The makeover of the old Star Bar turned out very well. It is one of the best now in Cebu. I met up with the SD owner there and he didn't feel good about it, but I told not to worry as he is the only game in town at 1100:D

Robb
Exactly where is that located? I just got into town and haven't seen any ads for it.

Robbaf
03-08-10, 22:30
Didn't think you would have a second go at Hotrod after your first glowing review! :confused: Thanks for the report!
Hahaha and I always say that to whoever I am bar hopping with. If it wasn't for my friends never visiting there and ask me...what about this bar:(

After four hard nights of bar hopping Cebu does get a bit small:(

I did finally get to Blue Angel and Stripes this trip. Blue Angel was okay, small but lots of fun girls. Stripes didn't seem as fun. High ceiling and the seating not conductive to group parties.

Robbaf
03-08-10, 22:34
Exactly where is that located? I just got into town and haven't seen any ads for it.
It is very easy to find if you go down to Mango street and find the bars. Pussycats has a 20 foot sign lit up and very hard to miss. If you find Love City just look to your left.

Robb

Robbaf
03-08-10, 22:52
Finally got to dine at the Tinderbox in Cebu. This is an local owned business that serves good food and wines. They have over 7000 wines on the shelf and an automated wine tasting machine.

They have a full Delicatessen with meat and cheese.

They also have a bar (Z Bar) on the top floor that opens at 6 pm.

Archbishop Reyes Avenue cor. Bauhinia Drive, Banilad, Cebu City

http://www.thetinderbox.com.ph/index.php

I have no interest in this place, just posting here in case someone is looking for something different or wants some good wine.

Robb

Wrongbid
03-09-10, 00:56
Nice place to eat in Cebu if you love italian food at reasonable prize are vienna cafe in mango street (elio is the manager) and la buona forchetta the paolo in acacia street (paolo is the manager) and you can find both in the vikings (1 of the 3) every night after work LOL. Good advices and very good people particularly Paolo called in vikind daddy Pao.

Starchild2012
03-09-10, 04:29
...it was easy 90 degrees f and no air moving. we ordered a round and before the drinks were delivered i called the momma over and she said that the air con was broke...wtf??? i counted 6 a/c units in my first glance around the room...we parted before the drinks arrived. we had already hit 4 bars and we were dropping around 3000p in each bar...to me this is another example of filipino business sense, save 1000p on ac and lose 5000p on sales each day. i am tired of going into a bar that opens at 8-9 pm and find that they turned off their fridge when they closed and just turned them on when they opened and oh by the way, are stocking it now with hot beer.


agree...however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.

not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights...rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily...rest of the nights..its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.

even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.

i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue...but putting things in perspective...where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.

on the same note...asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics......they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.

if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american

its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing...only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage.....only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again..which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history...its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here...ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the most.

X Man
03-10-10, 13:03
I found Stripes to be awful. I can't remember if I posted about this already.

I'm generally a hard drinker...fast and hard... a barman's best customer. But I had just eaten before my early arrival at Stripes, so I was going much slower than usual. I had my eye on the first dancer I saw (usually only one at a time at this bar?), but she was already with a customer. I was hoping her client would leave, as they sometimes do.

Like I said, I was drinking a bit slower than usual, but was absolutely floored when the waitress (claimed to be the neice of the mamasan) suggested that the owner (she pointed at some fatfuck sitting at the bar) thought I was a poor customer because I wouldn't sit with a girl. Oh? She walked away and I thougt about that for about....oh, five seconds.

Well, since there was only one gal I was interested in, and she was sitting with a customer, and the owner/mgr/waitress had made me felt unwelcome, and the beer wasn't very cold from the git go, I decided to leave. I took another swallow, laid my money on the table, and walked out.

Just after I had gotten to the bottom of the steps, some male staff came out shouting angrily that I hadn't paid. Very aggressive. At that moment, the waitress had a word with him and he walked away, closed the door. No apology.

I could not / would not recommend stripes. I can't remember getting worse service from any bar in the Philippines in the 30 years I've been going there.

On the other hand, Blue Angels customer service was great. Ozzie owner seems like a nice guy. And as Robbaf says, the gals are plenty friendly.

HotRod was plenty cold when I went there, Robbaf, did you ask for some AC?

Since the place is for sale, maybe they are having problems paying the electric bills. Sweaty dancersd-- doesn't sound so bad. X




Hahaha and I always say that to whoever I am bar hopping with. If it wasn't for my friends never visiting there and ask me...what about this bar:(

After four hard nights of bar hopping Cebu does get a bit small:(

I did finally get to Blue Angel and Stripes this trip. Blue Angel was okay, small but lots of fun girls. Stripes didn't seem as fun. High ceiling and the seating not conductive to group parties.

Robbaf
03-10-10, 15:22
I found Stripes to be awful. I can't remember if I posted about this already.
Agree:(


HotRod was plenty cold when I went there, Robbaf, did you ask for some AC?

Since the place is for sale, maybe they are having problems paying the electric bills. Sweaty dancersd-- doesn't sound so bad. X
Of course I asked about the AC. Sad bar need new owner:(

Robb

Robbaf
03-10-10, 15:34
Agree...however, as you would already know electricity cost in the PH is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.

Not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights...rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily...rest of the nights..its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.

Even if you would not agree with the above things, It is really unfair that you target every Filipino who would have a business.
Thanks for the nice words! I live and work here and I understand the Philippine way of life....I wasn't trying to be mean...just stating the facts. I will not stay in any bar without AC. I will be back to Cebu Saturday and I will report on what I find. Here is a tease from Cebu....

Warbucks
03-11-10, 09:27
agree. however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.

yep. especially aircons which really push the power cost.

[quote=born loser 5]not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights. rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily. rest of the nights. its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.of course not that's why most of these guys love ermita street walkers and "freebies" so much.


even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.first bl robbaff is one of the good guys. it' ok to attack "minorities" and host country nationals on this forum. it's not ok to attack the "establishment. " you walking a fine line bl next you will get moderated or the life threatening banned.


i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue. but putting things in perspective. where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.

on the same note. asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics. they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.

if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american

its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing. only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage. only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again. which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history. its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here. ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the most.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/model_minority

while some asian americans hold pride in the model minority image, the consensus in academia and the field of asian american studies is that the model minority myth is detrimental to the asian pacific american (apa) community, used to justify the exclusion of needy apa communities in the distribution of assistance programs, public and private, and understate or slight the achievements of apa individuals. communities that are especially affected are south east asian communities, e. g. cambodian-american, and the pacific islander community, e. g. persons with origins in guam and micronesia; these communities have much lower education rates and higher poverty rates. chinese, japanese, korean, filipino and indian americans are over twice as likely to graduate with a bachelor's degree than most members of other asian-american groups. the model minority myth relies on the aggregation of success indicators, hiding the plight of recent first-generation immigrants under the high success rate of more established asian communities.

bl have you heard the model minority myth? most of the asians who immigrate to the western nations were successful in their own countries. a lot of asian immigrates were students or already held professional degrees before immigrating which translate into an easier "adjustment" for them. trust me. there is not a horde of filipino jeepney drivers are going to the us then becoming computer engineers and doctors. as for the aristocratic families who keep pi from prospering well western nationals have these too.

editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php) for more information.

Starchild2012
03-11-10, 14:41
Thanks for the nice words! I live and work here and I understand the Philippine way of life....I wasn't trying to be mean...just stating the facts. I will not stay in any bar without AC. I will be back to Cebu Saturday and I will report on what I find. Here is a tease from Cebu....


Wow nice pics...I love cebu also, its the best place to get laid on any day. Looking forward to your reports....I hope you give a visit to Juliana disco heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar whom after 2 am go for very low bidding :)

good luck...

Bronxnik
03-11-10, 14:54
There are so many ways to cut the AirCon bills down, mostly by paying atttention to basic details of geometry and architecture. And you know, this information has all been out there since the first oil shocks in 1973.

No one here does any of it. Jisco, everyone in this town is still using electricity to make domestic hot water, for christ's sake. I hope they all go broke, they richly deserve it. Maybe then Darwinism can prevail.

Robbaf
03-11-10, 22:19
Even if you would not agree with the above things, It is really unfair that you target every Filipino who would have a business.
I am not trying to target anyone, I am just telling it as it is. I know Filipino business as I deal with it every day:(

I could post story after story about Filipino businesses that would have readers shaking their heads. One major company that I work with every day did not invoice me for $800,000 in two years and they didn't even know it until I told them.

Another way that I see this: Offer a Filipino 10 peso today or one peso each day for the next hundred days and see which one they will take:D

Robb

Warbucks
03-12-10, 02:55
agree. however, as you would already know electricity cost in the ph is truly out of this world with very high cost which would easily take a bars income.yep. especially aircons which really push the power cost.
not everyone spends 5000 pesos all nights. rarely folks like you or i tourist alike come and spend heavily. rest of the nights. its all the old retire expats who spend not more than 200 to 500 pesos and spend all night in the bar.of course not that's why most of these guys love ermita street walkers and "freebies" sogos and eurotels so much.


even if you would not agree with the above things, it is really unfair that you target every filipino who would have a business.first bl robbaff is one of the good guys. it' ok to attack "minorities" and host country nationals on this forum. it's not ok to attack the "establishment. " you walking a fine line bl next you will get moderated or the life threatening banned.
i enjoy reading your posts, i'm not trying to counter argue. but putting things in perspective. where is the need to bring in all filipinos in one basket just because ac was not on. its like saying all white man are ****s who come to asia. well, one would find it interesting that filipinos business in america is doing very well and they are one of the richest community in america.

on the same note. asian americans earn more than any other community in america including the majority white population. there household personal income is more than white, black and hispanics. they are doing way better in education than the jewish group also which were considered the most educated which the asian community has now surpassed.

if you read about the filipino community in eu or us you would know, they are as successful as japanese or koreans or any other races.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/filipino_american

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/asian_american

its few rotten apples that screw the whole thing. only few families control majority of business in ph and its laws are screwed to their advantage. only recently the ph government agreed to kick start nuclear power plant again. which could solve the elec. problems. if you read philippines history. its the spanish chinese hybrid families that control everything here. ordinary filipinas whom we go on a date with or monger are the real pure bred in the ph who suffer the mosthttp://en. wikipedia.org/wiki/model_minority

while some asian americans hold pride in the model minority image, the consensus in academia and the field of asian american studies is that the model minority myth is detrimental to the asian pacific american (apa) community, used to justify the exclusion of needy apa communities in the distribution of assistance programs, public and private, and understate or slight the achievements of apa individuals. communities that are especially affected are south east asian communities, e. g. cambodian-american, and the pacific islander community, e. g. persons with origins in guam and micronesia; these communities have much lower education rates and higher poverty rates. chinese, japanese, korean, filipino and indian americans are over twice as likely to graduate with a bachelor's degree than most members of other asian-american groups. the model minority myth relies on the aggregation of success indicators, hiding the plight of recent first-generation immigrants under the high success rate of more established asian communities.

bl have you heard the model minority myth? most of the asians who immigrate to the western nations were successful in their own countries. a lot of asian immigrates were students or already held professional degrees before immigrating which translate into an easier "adjustment" for them. trust me. there is not a horde of filipino jeepney drivers are going to the us then becoming computer engineers and doctors. as for the aristocratic families who keep pi from prospering well western nationals have these too.

Web Connect
03-12-10, 11:40
No Aircon in Hotrods. ...to me this is another example of Filipino business sense,

RobbJust to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian !

Amjeck
03-12-10, 12:40
heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar
good luck...
Where are these two places?

Amjeck
03-12-10, 12:48
heard lots of 9er's from Arena and jaguar
good luck...
Where are these two places?

Robbaf
03-12-10, 22:17
Just to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian !
Okay just to set the record straight I don't care who owns it, every time that I have been in there it is MANAGED by a Filipino.

Thanks
Robb

Key Master
03-12-10, 23:22
Just to set the facts straight. Hotrods is owned by a Norwegian !

Just wanted to comment on the place. I've only had two women from the place. One I barfined a couple of times and one a meet after work deal. Both were great in the sack and treated me really well. The mamasan, the woman, I forget her name has always been kind to me. I do remember some slight issues with air conditioning but nothing that I couldn't handle at the time. I actually look forward to going to the place, because I've had good luck in there. It's been about 8 months or so since I've been though.

Buko Max
03-12-10, 23:54
Where are these two places?
Read back through the forum or do a search because all the info is there!

Mayntain
03-13-10, 00:09
It must be a new AC problem,because when I was in Hotrods four or five times in Feb the A.C. was fine to me!

GregLondon
03-13-10, 05:33
I've previously recommended the Mango park hotel because of location, (near Mango Square, free wifi in room and rooftop pool all for about 2000P whioch is OK by Cebu standards.

If you decide to stay there DONT PUT CASH IN THE HOTEL SAFETY BOXES BEHIND RECEPTION. I did this and have had around 400USD of currency stolen.

The problem is that all the reception staff and doubtless others too know the default code to get into these boxes, there is no web cam covering them so its open for staff to help theirselves during the night when noone is around. So far no adequate respose from management who supposedly left mid friday afternoon and wont return till Monday. if you can live without the pool Maxwell and Alpa City suites look good new options at the $40-50 range. Mango in general has a very poor customer service record, but the pool is rooftop pool is very nice and the wifi generally works.

Key Master
03-13-10, 08:13
I've previously recommended the Mango park hotel because of location, (near Mango Square, free wifi in room and rooftop pool all for about 2000P whioch is OK by Cebu standards.

If you decide to stay there DONT PUT CASH IN THE HOTEL SAFETY BOXES BEHIND RECEPTION. I did this and have had around 400USD of currency stolen.

The problem is that all the reception staff and doubtless others too know the default code to get into these boxes, there is no web cam covering them so its open for staff to help theirselves during the night when noone is around. So far no adequate respose from management who supposedly left mid friday afternoon and wont return till Monday. if you can live without the pool Maxwell and Alpa City suites look good new options at the $40-50 range. Mango in general has a very poor customer service record, but the pool is rooftop pool is very nice and the wifi generally works.

Thanks for the warning. I am always weary of safes in room or behind the reception desk. I've had money skimmed from safety boxes before where you have one key and they have the other but you need both to open it. Someone had a copy of my key. That happened in China. I also know that those digital safes in the room can be opened with a key the management has. In the wrong hands it can wreak havoc. No real safe way of handling things. I only bring emergency cash and not looking to constantly change money. I use an ATM. I prefer to leave cash in my locked luggage. They take my luggage, I'm screwed anyway. I use the in room safes, but I won't leave everything in there. I actually prefer to use that as a diversion and put only a little bit in there for something quick for me to grab. If you use the safety boxes at reception it's nice if they have those boxes that you can put a little mini padlock on it.

Sxxxx
03-13-10, 10:13
I've previously recommended the Mango park hotel because of location, (near Mango Square, free wifi in room and rooftop pool all for about 2000P whioch is OK by Cebu standards.

If you decide to stay there DONT PUT CASH IN THE HOTEL SAFETY BOXES BEHIND RECEPTION. I did this and have had around 400USD of currency stolen.

The problem is that all the reception staff and doubtless others too know the default code to get into these boxes, there is no web cam covering them so its open for staff to help theirselves during the night when noone is around. So far no adequate respose from management who supposedly left mid friday afternoon and wont return till Monday. if you can live without the pool Maxwell and Alpa City suites look good new options at the $40-50 range. Mango in general has a very poor customer service record, but the pool is rooftop pool is very nice and the wifi generally works.I have had same experience but not as much cash stolen, plus small amount of travellers cheques, plus airline tickets all disappeared from a different Cebu Hotel Safe. I had in my possession complete detailed receipt, signed by owner. This place is no longer operating as a Hotel. Caused a lot of inconvenience and spoiled my trip at the time.

You will not get the money back. They will not honour their responsibility re valuables placed in Security Box, my experience anyway. In my case I was threatened by influential owner that it would be me that would end up in Court, defending myself, from a false charge no doubt.

I brought Police to query owner, he scared them off with his political connections. Chief of Police told me he could not help me, his job was in jeopardy and recommended I drop if for my personal safety, which I did.

I have also pm'd you re this.

X Man
03-13-10, 11:22
Yea, it's a mystery.

Robb was kind of curt to me last time, so I hesitate to ask how late he was or what reputation he has at the bar...

It strikes me as a place of comfort and entertainment for east asian customers, so having a bunch of rowdy Westerners might not be welcome.

I've barfined out of ther only twice and both have shown their credetials on the naughty thread.....gorillia included.

X


It must be a new AC problem,because when I was in Hotrods four or five times in Feb the A.C. was fine to me!

Starchild2012
03-13-10, 13:39
Where are these two places?
Arena and jaguar are Korean own KTV style bars just further away from main city. All taxi knows the place. The place is an expensive joint for Korean and Japanese to spend their dough. The girls are the best there are in Cebu.

The place is expensive but well worth a visit, if you are into quality. I have written some reports on the place last year, you can check on the reports by searching keywords arena and jaguar.

All bars close at around 2.30 am and most of the girls head to Juliana disco, you could get them there...but just a visit to the bars..you would know which girl is from Arena and Jaguar.

Good Luck

GregLondon
03-14-10, 01:55
I have had same experience but not as much cash stolen, plus small amount of travellers cheques, plus airline tickets all disappeared from a different Cebu Hotel Safe. I had in my possession complete detailed receipt, signed by owner. This place is no longer operating as a Hotel. Caused a lot of inconvenience and spoiled my trip at the time.

You will not get the money back. They will not honour their responsibility re valuables placed in Security Box, my experience anyway. In my case I was threatened by influential owner that it would be me that would end up in Court, defending myself, from a false charge no doubt.

I brought Police to query owner, he scared them off with his political connections. Chief of Police told me he could not help me, his job was in jeopardy and recommended I drop if for my personal safety, which I did.

I have also pm'd you re this.


Thanks S

I have come to the same conclusion not a snowball in hells chance of getting the management to cough up $400. I was tempted to delay my departure from Cebu till Monday to try and confront the manager/owner but I have a feeling it would be futile especially as inn my case there was no documentary evidence how much I had in the wallet and i did not check it at check out. Most people have alos said that trying to get the police involved is also pointless as they will be well connected with the hotel and eager to fleece the foreigner.

GregLondon
03-14-10, 02:38
I decided to spend a couple of days in LapuLapu/Mactan (the area near Cebu Airport) before leaving Cebu. In general its not a great place to find open minded girls. There's not much nightlife so most of the naughty girls migrate to Cebu City.

I managed to luck out through DIA though and found a girl who absolutely loves sex. She's running 25 so has lost the fresh face of youth and no longer slim but still has a nice body. Her attitude and skill (especially with her tireless tongue) however is exemplary and she is a very nice girl who is reliable and good to talk to. She's looking for great sex and companionship rather than money though Im sure a gift/treat etc would be appreciated as she's recently lost her job. She says she loves licking pussy as much as sucking cock (which she seems to adore) so was very up for a threesome, but we couldn't find another naughty girl in Lapu Lapu at short notice.

She has found DIA difficult going as most guys are based in Cebu City and not interested to come to LL to meet. She's agreed to meet a couple of guys in town but they didnt show up so she's now wary of taking the hour long jeep to Cebu.

If you are in the Mactan/lapu lapu area or are especially keen to find a girl for a threesome, PM me and Ill pass on her DIA ID.

I got into trouble last time I posted a DIA ID on the site as some guy was kind enough to try and win favour with the girl by telling her that i had posted her ID to a sex site.

Tungsten Chef
03-14-10, 05:41
Thanks S

I have come to the same conclusion not a snowball in hells chance of getting the management to cough up $400. I was tempted to delay my departure from Cebu till Monday to try and confront the manager/owner but I have a feeling it would be futile especially as inn my case there was no documentary evidence how much I had in the wallet and i did not check it at check out. Most people have alos said that trying to get the police involved is also pointless as they will be well connected with the hotel and eager to fleece the foreigner.This couldn't have been the Sarossa..could it?

Robbaf
03-14-10, 11:30
Robb was kind of curt to me last time, so I hesitate to ask how late he was or what reputation he has at the bar...
X
X What the hell are you talking about? You wanted to meet up, but our schedules did not match. How was that being Curt?

What is how late he was all about???

Robb

Buko Max
03-15-10, 02:20
Thanks S

I have come to the same conclusion not a snowball in hells chance of getting the management to cough up $400. I was tempted to delay my departure from Cebu till Monday to try and confront the manager/owner but I have a feeling it would be futile especially as inn my case there was no documentary evidence how much I had in the wallet and i did not check it at check out.
Very disturbing news indeed and doubtful management had knowledge of the pilfering. More then likely a shady employee. You don't have any recourse at this point but purhaps lodge a complaint with the Hotel Resort and Restuarant Association of Cebu which I'm sure the hotel is a member of.

Would suggest that members purchase a lockable money pouch that prevents casual theft by hotel employees or invited guests.

X Man
03-15-10, 09:07
My message had nothing to do with various pm's we have exchanged in the past.

What I though was "curt", wasn't meant to be a point of contention. You had a very short and serious reply to my continuation of the Hot Rod post. That's all, not meant as criticism -- just critical analysis. ;-)

"how late" was in reference to how late you arrived at Hot Rod. Was it at closing? Turn off the AC at closing seems like a very good strategy -- wouldn't you say?

Sorry for the misunderstanding.

X


X What the hell are you talking about? You wanted to meet up, but our schedules did not match. How was that being Curt?

What is how late he was all about???

Robb

X Man
03-15-10, 09:22
Gl,

I've come to enjoy your informative posts, but you're getting lazy!.

You said you've you spent a "couple days" in Lapu, but you don't give us much info.

I've been to Mermaid (just before the new bridge on the way out of the airport) a few times both at the new place and old. Some great gals but the format is not the usual Mango stuff.

I've also wandered into the local area, where there are several bars and a few diamonds in the rough. Ned Kelly was one place I remembered.

X


I decided to spend a couple of days in LapuLapu/Mactan (the area near Cebu Airport) before leaving Cebu. In general its not a great place to find open minded girls. There's not much nightlife so most of the naughty girls migrate to Cebu City.

I managed to luck out through DIA though and found a girl who absolutely loves sex. She's running 25 so has lost the fresh face of youth and no longer slim but still has a nice body. Her attitude and skill (especially with her tireless tongue) however is exemplary and she is a very nice girl who is reliable and good to talk to. She's looking for great sex and companionship rather than money though I'm sure a gift/treat etc would be appreciated as she's recently lost her job. She says she loves licking pussy as much as sucking cock (which she seems to adore) so was very up for a threesome, but we couldn't find another naughty girl in Lapu Lapu at short notice.

She has found DIA difficult going as most guys are based in Cebu City and not interested to come to LL to meet. She's agreed to meet a couple of guys in town but they didn't show up so she's now wary of taking the hour long jeep to Cebu.

If you are in the Mactan/lapu lapu area or are especially keen to find a girl for a threesome, PM me and I'll pass on her DIA ID.

I got into trouble last time I posted a DIA ID on the site as some guy was kind enough to try and win favour with the girl by telling her that I had posted her ID to a sex site.

Robbaf
03-15-10, 22:42
"how late" was in reference to how late you arrived at Hot Rod. Was it at closing? Turn off the AC at closing seems like a very good strategy -- wouldn't you say? X
No worries X. I am here to share and get info on the Philippines.

I was there at 11:30 pm. Last weekend in Cebu I didn't waste my time in checking Hotrods.

I did enjoy the Silver Dollar Pacman fight promo. It is great to watch the fight with 40 or so other guys and all those ladies. Carl put on a great party.

Robb

Brymor
03-17-10, 18:07
I have had same experience but not as much cash stolen, plus small amount of travellers cheques, plus airline tickets all disappeared from a different Cebu Hotel Safe. I had in my possession complete detailed receipt, signed by owner. This place is no longer operating as a Hotel. Caused a lot of inconvenience and spoiled my trip at the time.

You will not get the money back. They will not honour their responsibility re valuables placed in Security Box, my experience anyway. In my case I was threatened by influential owner that it would be me that would end up in Court, defending myself, from a false charge no doubt.

I brought Police to query owner, he scared them off with his political connections. Chief of Police told me he could not help me, his job was in jeopardy and recommended I drop if for my personal safety, which I did.

I have also pm'd you re this.

Any chance of you naming and shaming this hotel so that we can all give it a very wide berth?

GregLondon
03-17-10, 19:09
Gl,

I've come to enjoy your informative posts, but you're getting lazy!.

You said you've you spent a "couple days" in Lapu, but you don't give us much info.

I've been to Mermaid (just before the new bridge on the way out of the airport) a few times both at the new place and old. Some great gals but the format is not the usual Mango stuff.

I've also wandered into the local area, where there are several bars and a few diamonds in the rough. Ned Kelly was one place I remembered.

X

Well I usually stay in the Mango area of Cebu but as i had an early flight to Davao i thought I would get a change of scenery and stay in Lapu Lapu a couple of nights before taking an early morning trip to Davao. One reason is that I had accumulated a number of DIA contacts who were based in Lapu Lapu. I ended up in a place which i hadn't realised was actually a language school centre CleverLearn Residences as it was economical and had a pool and free wifi.

Had one had more time there would probably have been scope to seduce some of the Japanese and Korean chicks living there given that they are all pretty keen to converse with bona fide native English speakers. Some of these girls are very cute. I found that many of my DIA LapuLapu contacts had moved on or had bfs now so things were looking dicy until I met up with the girl I described who turned out to be a star in terms of performance and attitude.

Incidentally I have found the contrast in attitude between Davao and Cebu astounding. If you go to DIA one get's the impression that there are lots of very cute and open minded chick in Davao, but I've found that a far greater proportion of these girls flake away once you actually get here. Personally I've done fairly well, though many of my DIA contacts did flake away one girl was keen to chat on cam and then meet me at the mall. She declared herself unavailable citing menstruation as the reason, but then proceeded to talk her friend into taking an hours hubble hubble ride into town from the sticks to meet me. She turned out to be a very hot 19 year old with an i'll stay with you until you tell me you dont need me any more attitude. She's quite an interesting girl. She spent the 25k pesos she one as second prize in a bikini competition on buying a turkey farm - well a bit of an exaggeration really just a couple of dozen birds living beneath her parents house.

She is also a salsa instructor at the local hotel and designs some of her own clothes so really knows how to move both in bed and out. There are a couple of other foreign guys hanging out at the hotel however, both extremely eligible guys in their 30's who have been here quite a while and so far had very limited success. Almost unbelievable for anyone conditioned to the Cebu scene

Sxxxx
03-18-10, 04:31
Any chance of you naming and shaming this hotel so that we can all give it a very wide berth?As I said in my report that place is no longer a hotel.

Nowadays the building has been remodelled and rented out to various businesses. Easier to collect rent than run a hotel.

I recommend no one leaves cash notes in a Security Box. Too much of a temptation for lowly paid staff.

Brymor
03-18-10, 13:19
As I said in my report that place is no longer a hotel.

Nowadays the building has been remodelled and rented out to various businesses. Easier to collect rent than run a hotel.

I recommend no one leaves cash notes in a Security Box. Too much of a temptation for lowly paid staff.

Sxxxx you are absolutely right I missed the bit about no longer operating as a hotel anymore. Blame it on my excitement at the thought of arriving back in Cebu in another 5-6 weeks. Will be giving Lapu Lapu a miss this next time, spending 4 -5 days in Cebu City, 2-3 days in Moalboal, 2-3 days in Bohol, 5 days in CDO and if I have time I would like to experience Davao for the first time. Will be flying direct into Cebu, as I have said before I will never go via Manila, too many bad past experiences. If any of you guys fancy meeting for a beer and swapping war stories please PM me. I will be in Cebu at the beginning of May for around 3 weeks.

X Man
03-18-10, 14:44
Mortman,

If you are planning to fly Cebu to CDO, I recommend that you just go ahead and fly to Davao. It's a nice city and nice beaches nearby. I love CDO too, but I don't think there is a good beach nearby.

Maybe you are using ferry the whole way. Maybe you have a gal in Butuan. Who knows. I'm looking forward to your usual interesting field reports.

X


Sxxxx you are absolutely right I missed the bit about no longer operating as a hotel anymore. Blame it on my excitement at the thought of arriving back in Cebu in another 5-6 weeks. Will be giving Lapu Lapu a miss this next time, spending 4 -5 days in Cebu City, 2-3 days in Moalboal, 2-3 days in Bohol, 5 days in CDO and if I have time I would like to experience Davao for the first time. Will be flying direct into Cebu, as I have said before I will never go via Manila, too many bad past experiences. If any of you guys fancy meeting for a beer and swapping war stories please PM me. I will be in Cebu at the beginning of May for around 3 weeks.

Tilleul1
03-18-10, 15:37
Hello,

After reading a lot of pages here it remains some question for me.

It will be my first time in Phil, I would like to rest the days on a nice beach and mongering the nights.

On Mactan, it seems they are good hotels like Shangri-la, but far from the action! 1 hour taxi? Cost?

Are they closer hotel with a beach or a nice pool?

Or I have to split my stay between the Marriott and shangri-la?

Cyber Whip
03-18-10, 22:21
Hello,

After reading a lot of pages here it remains some question for me.

It will be my first time in Phil, I would like to rest the days on a nice beach and mongering the nights.

On Mactan, it seems they are good hotels like Shangri-la, but far from the action! 1 hour taxi? Cost?

Are they closer hotel with a beach or a nice pool?

Or I have to split my stay between the Marriott and shangri-la?Shangri-la, Hilton, Plantation Bay are all nice places to stay. You will be somewhat disappointed with the beaches at any of these places, but will be able to relax at all and they have nice pools.

Taxis can be difficult to get on short notice, especially from P Bay. There are hotel cars you can rent one way or by the hour. Generally taxi will cost about 300 pesos one way but can vary alot depending on time of day. From what I remember the hotel car from P bay was about 600 one way to mandaue, probably 800 to mango. These prices are from my memory but fairly recent so I may be misquoting. Sometimes I could get taxi to P Bay for 250. They won't use the meter generally so agree on a price if they are reluctant, and some will be very reluctant, don't agree to more than 400. Traffic from Mactan to Cebu at 6-8pm time is hell (1. 5. 2 hours), plan on leaving early for the nightlife.

You will impress the girls with the surroundings on Mactan hotels, but that 1 hour ride can be a killer and also remember the taxi inflated cost when tipping. Also it can be difficult to get taxi for the girl if she is leaving early in the morning hours (3am-4am).

Marriott has a nice pool area also, and is very convenient for everything. I stay there 100% now, used to stay on mactan alot, but no more, just ain't worth it (traffic, taxi, etc). Crown Regency and Waterfront are also decent hotels downtown Cebu, closer to the action at night.

Brymor
03-19-10, 11:36
Hello,

After reading a lot of pages here it remains some question for me.

It will be my first time in Phil, I would like to rest the days on a nice beach and mongering the nights.

On Mactan, it seems they are good hotels like Shangri-la, but far from the action! 1 hour taxi? Cost?

Are they closer hotel with a beach or a nice pool?

Or I have to split my stay between the Marriott and shangri-la?

Pat
I am afraid that the combination of lots of mongering and a nice beach just do not go hand in hand in Cebu, especially Cebu City. Mactan/Lapu Lapu is very overpriced and a long way from the nightlife and bars of Cebu City and you will be heavily overcharged by taxis if you try to get back to Mactan late at night. The hotels on Mactan do have some great facilities but the beaches are not much more than mud flats, with no surf. It is more like standing on the muddy edge of a large lake. I have heard that some of the islands off Mactan are very beautiful and have great beaches, but that means organising and paying for transport to get there and back.
Mactan isn't all bad there is mongering activity to be had on the island but nothing like you will find in Cebu City.
My advice would be to spend a few days mongering in Cebu City, organise lots of meetings through Date in Asia, Asian Euro and the other well known dating sites and once you have found a girl (or even two) that you are comfortable with, head off to Bohol where the beaches are much nicer. I have not explored Cebu island as much as some of the other guys on this board but have heard there are some lovely beaches to be found on the island. The problem is that transport infrastructure sucks like everywhere else so getting to the resorts can be both time consuming and problematic

Buko Max
03-19-10, 14:36
On Mactan, it seems they are good hotels like Shangri-la, but far from the action! 1 hour taxi? Cost?

Are they closer hotel with a beach or a nice pool?

Or I have to split my stay between the Marriott and shangri-la?
Would have to agree with Mortman in that you should find a girl first, then stay out at one of the resorts or better yet island hop.

Shangri-La does have a nice beach and pool. But it's up to an hour taxi ride to Cebu city and 350 to 500 php each way depending on traffic. To get to some clubs in Lapu2, half that amount.

Check out the Waterfront Lahug which has a great pool, gym, casino, entertainment and food. You might even meet some nice women in their lobby.

Marriott has it's advantages being mext to Ayala Mall but the rooms and pool are on the small side and not the best value IMO.

Robbaf
03-20-10, 08:52
I was in Silver Dollar last Thursday night and a health care worker was teaching a class on STD's and Aids to the girls in the pool room. One of the girls came out with an Aids pamphlet and was laughing about the picture of two guys having sex. We all had a good laugh and one girl who was dancing asked me and another customer if we ever did that. We both replied hell no!

She had 7 tattoos and I asked her if she was worried about getting Aids from the tattoos and she replied that you can't get Aids from getting a tattoo and she knew that she was right because she had asked the health care worker in the class. Nothing like spreading bad info.

Robb

Gogobarlover
03-21-10, 03:37
I only been to the gogo bars in Mango Avenue (Dimples, Papillion, Sisters, Hot Rods, Erik The Red, Vikings, BG's, Club Temptation and Lone Star. I didn't really bother to check out the ones near Fuente Osmena, Downtown and Mandaue. What do you guys recommend? I plan on heading to Cebu again in May of this year. I was thinking

Fuente. Silver Dollar. Sounds good based on what people say on here.

Downtown. Not sure if I want to bother going down here. I been to Colon and it can get dark there due to the brown outs they have.

Mandaue. Club Harem? A girl on DIA mentioned this place but, I didn't get the chance to check it out. Lots of young girls

Other. Club Arena. Barfine can be very expensive here. Anyone had first hand experienced at this bar?

Infinity KTV near Parklane Hotel. Was thinking about checking this out just to see how it's like.

Gogobarlover
03-21-10, 03:53
Robb,

Where is Pussycats gogo?

Is this located on Escario street north of Maxillom Avenue?


Finally Pussycats has opened here in Cebu. The opening was delayed one week and the grand opening is next week. Last night there was 40 girls and at least half were smoking hot. I saw five that I knew from Abusir and BG's that transferred over, but lots of new girls.

The makeover of the old Star Bar turned out very well. It is one of the best now in Cebu. I met up with the SD owner there and he didn't feel good about it, but I told not to worry as he is the only game in town at 1100:D

Robb

Osakagin
03-21-10, 07:14
Never heard of 'Mataca Island', surely you must mean Mactan outside of Cebu city. If that is the case yes many Koreans and Japanese visit the island. But there are some western expats there too, I know a few.

Mactan is good for mongering, with more then a handful of clubs and brothels. But the real attraction at least for me is the almost unlimited supply of single and available women living in the hundreds of boarding houses!

Boracay is not the best place to monger and dive. Although I have never been there, the ISG concensus for a diving/mongering vacation would be Puerto Galera, on the island of Mindoro.


Hi Mattrick

As someone who is looking at spending a few days of mongering later this year in Cebu for the 1st time, I was interested in your comment that Mactan had an "almost unlimited supply of single and available girls".

I have had a read of the Cebu forum, re where one might meet or find these single gals on Mactan.....but too no avail.

Is there any chance you could give me the heads up where I am likely to meet these gals or is it just a matter of crusing the shops, streets or general bars to find them ?

Cheers in advance.

GregLondon
03-21-10, 10:39
Hi Mattrick

As someone who is looking at spending a few days of mongering later this year in Cebu for the 1st time, I was interested in your comment that Mactan had an "almost unlimited supply of single and available girls".

I have had a read of the Cebu forum, re where one might meet or find these single gals on Mactan.....but too no avail.

Is there any chance you could give me the heads up where I am likely to meet these gals or is it just a matter of crusing the shops, streets or general bars to find them ?

Cheers in advance.

In my view this is misleading at least from the perspective of a visitor rather than long term resident. Of course if you are resident living in some condo there may be an unlimited supply of young women who can persuaded to take up residence in your condo as your GF but Mactan is not in my opinion a great place for more casual encounters for the visitor. The problem is that most nightlife cuts out at about 10pm in Mactan, the naughty girls migrate to Cebu city where the nightlife goes on till about 4am.

Starchild2012
03-21-10, 13:31
Hi Mattrick

As someone who is looking at spending a few days of mongering later this year in Cebu for the 1st time, I was interested in your comment that Mactan had an "almost unlimited supply of single and available girls".

I have had a read of the Cebu forum, re where one might meet or find these single gals on Mactan.....but too no avail.

Is there any chance you could give me the heads up where I am likely to meet these gals or is it just a matter of crusing the shops, streets or general bars to find them ?

Cheers in advance.

As the below post has said, unless you are living in PH, no point in staying in Mactan, all girls you would meet eventually, would wanna go to cebu city.

For girls in Mactan.. cebu city is like a dream ride. They get to visit many malls and eat food and hang out till late.

Don't worry, Cebu city and infact all of PH has unlimited supply of girls, the thing is are you ready to live in the PH. If you coming to stay in Cebu for few days, stick to main party areas. I can assure you, you will have as much fun as in cebu city than in Mactan. Good Luck

Bronxnik
03-22-10, 10:59
As of a few weeks ago, that airlink is now available again.

The roads between the two have been fixed up a lot. A bus ride is worth considering. One would certainly run into more hurting-for-money young ladies on the bus than on an airplane.

Robbaf
03-22-10, 22:53
Robb,

Where is Pussycats gogo?

Is this located on Escario street north of Maxillom Avenue?
It is located on Mango next to Love City and Dimples.

Robb

Osakagin
03-23-10, 03:45
As the below post has said, unless you are living in PH, no point in staying in Mactan, all girls you would meet eventually, would wanna go to cebu city.

For girls in Mactan.. cebu city is like a dream ride. They get to visit many malls and eat food and hang out till late.

Don't worry, Cebu city and infact all of PH has unlimited supply of girls, the thing is are you ready to live in the PH. If you coming to stay in Cebu for few days, stick to main party areas. I can assure you, you will have as much fun as in cebu city than in Mactan. Good Luck


In my view this is misleading at least from the perspective of a visitor rather than long term resident. Of course if you are resident living in some condo there may be an unlimited supply of young women who can persuaded to take up residence in your condo as your GF but Mactan is not in my opinion a great place for more casual encounters for the visitor. The problem is that most nightlife cuts out at about 10pm in Mactan, the naughty girls migrate to Cebu city where the nightlife goes on till about 4am.


Thanks for the advice

Cheers,

Osakagin

Guy Wif Attitude
03-29-10, 12:06
*Question for you all*

Im tossing up whether i will spend time in Cebu or Makati. I only have 1 week this time, and generally prefer the niteclub/freelancer disco scene. Having been to Pump and Juliana, i thoroughly enjoyed myself there and have a hazy memory of some pretty hot and accesible girls. I have spent many a night at Cafe Havana as well in Makati and always pull some decent birds from there (hate the rough as guts LA Cafe type scene though).

So generally speaking, is Pump/Juliana better than Cafe Havana ? Are there any other similar clubs in Cebu that are better ?

Many thanks for your input,

Peace out

Bronxnik
03-29-10, 13:31
Souvenir B. Deveza 0927-856-4928

older guy who received a correct apprenticeship when the colonial influence was still strong.

Average tailor shop here has a limited steady diet of school and work uniform commissions. Have to be affordable to the locals, hence, no true fittings.

The guy is happy to meet you at your hotel, or at Robinsons Fuente

Superman06
03-29-10, 20:44
Cebu Report
The main thing about the Philippines is everything and I do mean everything (with the exception of electricity) is cheap. Even when you have been ripped off, it likely cost a lot less than what you might pay elsewhere. My middle of the road very clean and secure hotel (The Diplomat) cost me about $23 a night. If you stayed with the local goods, food and drink were exceptionally cheap. A pack of Marlboros in a bar cost a little over a dollar and local smokes about half that. BTW most bars sucked because of the smoking.

Another thing is that poverty is everywhere. There seems to be little if any safety nets for the impoverished. I have a lot of opinions as to why this condition exists but I’ll keep that to myself. Besides the culture of beggars the poverty and drugs has produced the world’s most tenacious salesmen. Whenever I stepped outside my hotel or a mall I was besieged by people selling all manner of goods. I would suggest that car dealers and real estate companies import these people to do their bidding.

But you don't really care about all that, You want to know about the action in Cebu. Overall I found it comparable to San Jose, CR but cheaper. The two venues I used to obtain ladies were the bikini bars and massage parlors, though mp's were strictly in call. BTW I encountered many exceptionally good looking women. If you like em short and petite this is the place you want to be.

IMO the best bikini bar is the Silver Dollar. Bar fine $1,000 pesos plus 750 pesos for the girl, but I always gave them a 1,000. That's like $44 to have lady in your room for about three hours. I was pleased with all the sessions I had with the Silver Dollar ladies. I also used Sisters twice and was pretty satisfied with that situation. I noticed some guys were negotiating for a long night but personally I'm not into that.

I picked up a what I guess is a semi-pro at El Gecko the very popular expat bat. I forget her name but she had her own motor bike. She was short and very squeezable without being fat. I had a great time with her but she tried to get more than we originally agreed on. Some semi-pro, uh?

I had some of the best massages in my life while in Cebu. About $5.50 for a one hour massage is hard to beat. This was at the massage place in the same building as my hotel the Diplomat. Very skilled professionals but alas no extras to be had there.

But that wasn't an issue at Chuva Chuva. A one hour massage there is 1,200 pesos. I could never get it straight with them if that was for one or two masseuses. They advertise themselves as giving a Lingam massage. In the world of the Kama Sutra the lingham is your johnson (aka wand of light) and of course it needs to be massaged for the last 10 minutes of the massage. My first session was really great. Marie (see photo) was very accommodating and gave a great massage. She honored my wand of light with great aplomb. But I could get her on board with oral. My second session pretty much sucked and therefore it was my last. The girl I got this time was an out and out pig who tried up-selling throughout the session. All in all Chuva Chuva was overpriced with limited services but I did have one exceptional session.

I did have a lot of a good time while in Cebu but it wasn't the only reason I visited. I was looking at it as a possible place to retire in four or five years. I was lucky to meet with several expats who gave me lots of information. I might ad this is my first time in Asia. Will I come back? I don't know, I'm still processing a lot of information from the trip. I hopped to visit Thailand while here but there were big political demonstrations going on while I was in Cebu. I really do want to get a body slide massage. :)

Buko Max
04-02-10, 13:52
Is there any chance you could give me the heads up where I am likely to meet these gals or is it just a matter of crusing the shops, streets or general bars to find them ?
Yes just like most everywhere in Philippines, you can meet women most any place and hour of the day. As you may not know, Mactan Island is a world onto itself. Many people rarely leave this expansive island since most everything is available locally. This includes puki.

One evening a few months ago, a buddy and I were on our way to White Castle to meet some friends; it was after 10:00 pm. Shortly after crossing the new bridge, I spotted a young lady walking briskly. So my bud jams on the brakes, pulls over and I call her over to the car. It took me all of about five minutes to convince her that she needs to go out on a date with me!

The next day she texts me informing that she cannot find her way to my hotel near Fuente Osmena circle. No worries! Told her to put a nice dress on and I would pick her up at the McD's near her home. Of course she was fashionably late but while waiting was able to get another girls number who was eating there with her friend.

Turns out she was an eighteen year old provincial girl who was always bored and up for anything and everything so I gave it to her! Great bubbly personality, very willing and never once complained about anything. Only spend a few hours with her as I had to meet a group of women at the disco. Gave her 500 php and a few bangles plus the taxi back to Lapu2. This is one gilrl you will never find on the internet. You have to be on the ground and circulating to catch up with a gem like this!

For those of you who want to explore Lapu2, I would start with Gaisano or Marina malls. Also a few weeks back the Grand Gaisano opened so this would be a good shopping area to visit as I'm sure it has piqued the interest of many women! Happy hunting!

I had an early flight once and noticed hordes of young women on their way to work -- there are many foreign owned factories on Mactan. But how do you meet them Mattrick? I imagine there is an early evening rush hour and many stop to eat somewhere. But where is ground zero?

Buko Max
04-02-10, 14:41
So generally speaking, is Pump/Juliana better than Cafe Havana ? Are there any other similar clubs in Cebu that are better ?
As with many clubs and bars in Philippines, things can change very rapidly as to how good the club is on any given night. What I do is circulate around a handful of clubs because different clubs get busy at different times. In the Mango Square complex besides Juliana I would also check Autoshop and Pump II. There is also a disco accross the street which I believe is called Club One or something to that effect.

For a more upscale crowd, check out the 'Loft' and 'Club Voodoo' both located in the IT Park. These places are best visited on the weekends. Another disco I would rcommend is 'Halo' located in Paseo near the old defunked Paseo disco.

Buko Max
04-02-10, 14:52
I only been to the gogo bars in Mango Avenue (Dimples, Papillion, Sisters, Hot Rods, Erik The Red, Vikings, BG's, Club Temptation and Lone Star. I didn't really bother to check out the ones near Fuente Osmena, Downtown and Mandaue. What do you guys recommend? I plan on heading to Cebu again in May of this year.
Yes there are many good clubs besides the ones on Mango Avenue. Don't really know your taste but judging from your screen name, you must be up for anything! Will do a short revue soon when I have more time! Cheers!

Gogobarlover
04-03-10, 01:13
Awww.Yeah I am down for anything. Too bad Philippines don't have much if any Soapy massages like in Thailand. As far as clubbing goes, only been to the Loft in IT park and Sunflower disco just walking distance away. I wasn't all too impressed with the The Loft. The Loft is located in the SkyFrom what I remember, I think it was 150 pesos entrance fee. I believe it had 2 levels. The first level had tables to your left and on the right, a little bar and a patio outside to hang out. It's not really a dance area. If you go out the same way you came in, there is another level you walk up to and there is another room with seats on the side and in the middle you can dance. Sunflower is close by. You can just walk it there. It's close by to the Waterfront hotel. Entrance fee I think it was 120 pesos per person. They have live bands in Sunflower. They alternate playing live band music and then back to disco. It's pretty big with long tables. My friend was at Voodoo and then hit Julianas and he said he wasn't impressed with Club Voodoo. Voodoo is in the Crossroads building. It's small in there. Julianas setup may not be all that fancy nice but, it's big and alot of these bar girls from Mango Avenue would go there after then finish work. It is located in Mango Square

Guy Wif Attitude
04-03-10, 11:56
I will include at least 2 days in Cebu in my May trip. The girls in Cebu seemed a lot less mercenery than in Makati (but conversation wise Makati was better). The gogo bar girls at Thunderdome and Volvo were more beautiful than the Angeles girls (I never made it to Arena/Jaguar), last time I paid USD60 pre night at the Fuente Crown Regency because it was still partially under construction. I'm sure the price has skyrocketed now. I found the Cebu scene was a little 'acquired'. It wasnt in your face but at the same time I think the effort you put into mingling at the discos would perhaps yield a better quality GFE than in the more commercial cities like Angeles/Manila.

Stroker Ace88
04-03-10, 17:27
Another thing is that poverty is everywhere. There seems to be little if any safety nets for the impoverished. I have a lot of opinions as to why this condition exists but I’ll keep that to myself. Besides the culture of beggars the poverty and drugs has produced the world’s most tenacious salesmen. Whenever I stepped outside my hotel or a mall I was besieged by people selling all manner of goods. I would suggest that car dealers and real estate companies import these people to do their bidding.

The conditions in the Philippines are typical of a third-World nation and can be found in the Caribbean, India, all of Africa, parts of Central and South America and in many other places in Asia. Nothing special about the poverty or the percentage of the population selling goods or looking for a handout in the streets of the Philippines. Once you experince the street situation in India, everything else seems tame.




IMO the best bikini bar is the Silver Dollar. Bar fine $1,000 pesos plus 750 pesos for the girl, but I always gave them a 1,000.

The barfine at Silver Dollar is and has always been 750P not 1000P, and then you work out a deal with the girl for ST, LT or VIP room and what you expect in return.

I had a few SML two weeks ago on a wednesday afternoon in Silver Dollar and sat with a couple of the girls I knew and they told me things are slow these days, not alot of customers. I bought them a few LD's as they took turns on stage. I must have killed about 8 cockroaches that walked across the drink mat on the bar in front of me during my two hour stay. I had never seen any in SD before so maybe they were all hiding in the wall they removed to create the new stage. ;)

Bronxnik
04-04-10, 05:47
99% of the gentlemen in these fora, think the same as a cockroach running around inside a bottle. They have a VERY tiny patrol space.

If you are lodged in downtown and/or midtown Cebu, and hangout in the foreigner-oriented clubs, you might well start to believe that poverty is everywhere in Cebu. YOu might believe that New York City is poverty stricken, if you start living amongst the street people of the East Village.

Street vendors are not beggers. They have their steady gig. The fact that they spend their time in rather low-productivity selling is not a consequence of poverty, it is part of their inability to see the forest for the trees.

In fact there is VERY LITTLE extreme poverty in Cebu city; that's why all the province chicks come here.

The number of people in Cebu City who miss 2 meals in a row due to a money problem is miniscule. This is not a welfare state; but the city government hands out money and rice on a regular basis.

Fuente is a shithole of mentally I'll street people. I call it Little Manila. Do not judge Cebu by Fuente.

PEople aren't dropping dead in the streets, as in Haiti or Zimbabwe. Cebu has government hospitals. No, they won't do cosmetic surgery for free, and yes, family members will have to go out and buy supplies used in your care. But the hospitals are there.

Filipinos are severe whiners. Almost every Filipino will describe himself as poverty stricken. That doesn't make it true.

The exceptionally poor appearance & condition of the publicly visible here, are NOT due to money problems. It follows from Malayan inability to organize their way out of a paper bag.

Long ago I learned not to trust the business judgement of the locals. Recently, I've given up on all the tourists as well.

The Rooster1
04-05-10, 03:48
99% of the gentlemen in these fora, think the same as a cockroach running around inside a bottle. They have a VERY tiny patrol space.

If you are lodged in downtown and/or midtown Cebu, and hangout in the foreigner-oriented clubs, you might well start to believe that poverty is everywhere in Cebu. YOu might believe that New York City is poverty stricken, if you start living amongst the street people of the East Village.

Street vendors are not beggers. They have their steady gig. The fact that they spend their time in rather low-productivity selling is not a consequence of poverty, it is part of their inability to see the forest for the trees.

In fact there is VERY LITTLE extreme poverty in Cebu city; that's why all the province chicks come here.

The number of people in Cebu City who miss 2 meals in a row due to a money problem is miniscule. This is not a welfare state; but the city government hands out money and rice on a regular basis.

Fuente is a shithole of mentally I'll street people. I call it Little Manila. Do not judge Cebu by Fuente.

PEople aren't dropping dead in the streets, as in Haiti or Zimbabwe. Cebu has government hospitals. No, they won't do cosmetic surgery for free, and yes, family members will have to go out and buy supplies used in your care. But the hospitals are there.

Filipinos are severe whiners. Almost every Filipino will describe himself as poverty stricken. That doesn't make it true.

The exceptionally poor appearance & condition of the publicly visible here, are NOT due to money problems. It follows from Malayan inability to organize their way out of a paper bag.

Long ago I learned not to trust the business judgement of the locals. Recently, I've given up on all the tourists as well.

Your an Idiot!

Spook
04-05-10, 21:17
Your an Idiot!I agree with your sentiment.

Stroker Ace88
04-06-10, 18:27
One evening I went bar-hopping with the steady GF in tow. At first like all the women in the PI she objected to my request for us to go have a drink at a gogo bar. After a few drinks she wanted to go to every gogo bar in Cebu and even suggested we hit up Jaguar in Banilad. Was she shy, you bet, but her shyness was over-ruled by curiosity. She did however feel more at ease when she saw the groups of Korean men and women in almost every bar we went to, so she was not the only regular women in most of the bars and this made her feel better.

One stop we made on our tour was the new Pussycats on Mango. I had never been to the previous bar and so in we went. I found it small and I was not impressed with either the girls or the club.

We walked in and sat in one of the sectional sofas right across from the stage and ordered two SML and there were 5 dancers on stage and I rated all of them as being in the 5-6 range and later I saw one nice 7.5 rated girl and she seemed pretty drunk as she held onto the stripper pole and moved her body only slightly to Bon Jovi. Granted I only stopped by at 12:30am and alot of the better girls might have been barfined, but there was better quality elsewhere on my tour even after 1am and no I did not make it to Jaguar, just the Mango area bars.

I found it strange that the guard did not sit at the front door, but rather out in the parking lot close to Mango Avenue and there was no guard or floor manager inside that I saw. Also the dance floor is very low and close to the floor level which led to one drunk guy getting up and slow dancing a whole song with one girl who was very uncomfortable with him all over her, and another jock idiot who thought he was too cool and he walked on stage and proceeded to show everyone how many of his 8 brain cells were still working as he lifted himself horizontal on the other stripper pole for a few seconds on his way to the CR. If there was a guard inside or a floor manager around this kind of stuff would not go on and its a sign of a new bar. This stuff is harmless most of the time but I have seen fights start over less.

I asked a waitress about the barfine and she looked around and then told me "2000...just for tonight" and alarm bells went off in my head as my scam radar went off. I then asked her loudly if she could be barfined as my GF had a crush on her and I wanted to watch as she did naughty things to her. The look on my GF's face was one of horror and shock and was priceless. The waitress knew I was joking and walked away and let's just say my GF did not approve. Oh well, getting her in a gogo club was good enough for one day, and I can work on the three-some on another.

ElRayo55
04-06-10, 21:19
This is my second time traveling to Cebu. I have been reading from my bros that the beaches in Panglao are worth visitng.

I will be staying at the Hilton on Mactan island which I really enjoyed the last time I was there Buffet breakfast incliuded in price and was very good with a nice assortment of foods Big rooms nice friendly courteous employees. I prefer the Hilton to the Micro Hotel and are about the same price. Always book ahead. Months ahead if you can much cheaper booking in advance. I would recommend both places. Yes far from cental Cebu but if you have time it is ok. Gf friendly I couldn't say. I booked room for two.

Any suggestions on where to stay in Panglao or the set up there? I will be accompanied by a young lady Any info would be greatly appreciated.

Thanking my bros in advance

Rubio Tonto
04-11-10, 09:41
I think you meant Bohol. The Alona Beach area has a ton of decent bungalow-style resorts. It all depends on your price range. Some of the resorts, like Bohol Divers Resort, even have low-end and midrange prices at the same resort. I'd try them first. If you're looking to pay in the $200 USD range, then Alona Palm Beach Resort will get you there.

Sxxxx
04-11-10, 10:13
Can someone please tell me if the rumour that Paseo Disco in Cabahug, Mabolo has closed down, is true? Save me a trip out there if it has. Curious to know how long it has been closed if so, cause place was huge and very successful times I went there.

Thanks in advance for any info.

Bopalula
04-12-10, 03:08
Just back from a 4 day outing to Cebu. I had lined up a number of DIA contacts plus arranged to meet a previous cutie in Manila on my stopover on the way back. Booked online at the Diplomat for $27 a night for the standard room with 2 single beds. A couple of nice American chaps there told me they paid $23 walk in rate for a Deluxe with a double bed.

As in the past, many of the DIA girls that I had lined up were late to respond to phone or text messages, but eventually most contacted me and were willing to meet. I ended up with my number two favorite to begin with while the number one choice started returning my text message shortly afterward. Number 2 had to come in from the province, 2 hours she said, and could she bring her sister? Her sister would only stay to meet me and then go home and the cutie would stay. Sure.

FOUR hours later they show up at Robinson's Mall on Ramos, but there's not one sister, but two. We meet in the food court. I offer to buy them dinner and they quickly agree. They want to go the family's favorite restaurant in Lahug to eat. I see visions of a 3000 peso food bill at some expensive restaurant so I say no, we're in a food court and I've been waiting 4 hours. Let's grab something here. We eat and then I buy them a cake at Baker Bob's to take home to their parents for having such beautiful daughters. The 2 sisters then split to stay overnight with an auntie in Mandaue. My cutie, 19, and the cutest of the 3, springs it on me that she didn't bring any clothes and that I needed to buy her some. Really? Hmmm.

We go upstairs and she starts shopping for a week's worth of clothes. LOL. I quickly put an end to that but bought her a pair of jeans and a few pair of panties. She had already shown she wasn't that bright....there certainly wasn't going to be much coversation other than the 'yes' and 'no' answers she had been giving me so far. Anyways, back to the room and she's got a fantastic little body and loved the DIY. But it was obvious this was a family business venture, as the middle sister had already married a forieigner that had built her a house. I was the next guy on the list.

Morning came and the sisters called and said they were now returning to the province. I said ok, but your sister is going with you. Why? She doesn't like me, I said. We meet again at Robinson's and the married sister immediately starts hitting on me to go to Manila. She makes it plain that it will be lots of fun without coming right out and saying so. After repeated attempts she gives up, but I ask about the oldest sister, 25, who is cute too, and has a nice full ass. She jumps up and lets out a shout of glee. We leave and the debauchery begins about 4 seconds after we hit the hotel room.

I leave the next afternoon so I take sister no. 2 back to Robinson's where she cabs it to SM and then on the bus home. I gave both the sisters 1000 pesos on departure.

Ok. So I'm on the plane to Manila where I make a move on a tall, Spanish looking stewardess. It works. She starts chatting me up....I was in seat 1A so it wasn't too obvious to everyone, and she gives me her email. I guess those 'business card burning ceremonies' don't apply to Cebu Pacific.

I land at Manila and surprise, surprise, my other little beauty is at the wrong terminal. We go to Sogo (my first time). 640 pesos for three hours. Room is definitely acceptable with a giant wall mirror and tv,etc, etc. She is smoking hot and I gave her 3000 pesos because she is more of a friend now.

For the golfers. Played at the Alta Vista course. They'll sting you for everything they can. Ended up paying $100.00 U.S. because I needed clubs, shoes, etc. The course has some short holes but is very scenic. You can see Mactan, Bohol, and a beautiful coral reef from many of the holes.

Should be back in a couple of months....probably Manila and the stewardess.

Nvslim
04-12-10, 10:41
Anyways, back to the room and she's got a fantastic little body and loved the DIY. But it was obvious this was a family business venture, as the middle sister had already married a forieigner that had built her a house. I was the next guy on the list.

the married sister immediately starts hitting on me to go to Manila. She makes it plain that it will be lots of fun without coming right out and saying so.

I ask about the oldest sister, 25, who is cute too, and has a nice full ass. She jumps up and lets out a shout of glee. We leave and the debauchery begins about 4 seconds after we hit the hotel room.



I am disappointed in you. You had a chance at a trifecta and did not take it. :)

Good report.

Slim

Bopalula
04-12-10, 13:54
I am disappointed in you. You had a chance at a trifecta and did not take it. :)

Good report.

SlimLOL. I hear ya. But honestly she was the least attractive of the three anyway, but definitely had a better command of English. Being married too is not really my style.

Here are some typical querie and replies I received while texting the girls when I was there.

Me: Hi, I'm in Cebu city now. Are you busy?

Girl: Really? When will you get here?

And.

Me: Are you in Cebu city now?

Girl: I'm ok. How are you my dear?

But here's the kicker.

Me: Can you meet me down at Robinson's mall?

Girl: What do you mean "meet me down at Robinson's mall?

Me: What don't you understand?

Girl: Oh, you mean meet you down at Robinson's mall?

Me: Um, ya.

Bopalula

Escort Fan
04-12-10, 14:05
Cebu Report

The main thing about the Philippines is everything and I do mean everything (with the exception of electricity) is cheap. Even when you have been ripped off, it likely cost a lot less than what you might pay elsewhere. My middle of the road very clean and secure hotel (The Diplomat) cost me about $23 a night. If you stayed with the local goods, food and drink were exceptionally cheap.I agree with that statment if you want to live like locals. I mean personnally I can't find a descend hotel room in Manila for less than 130 USD. In europe I'd go to mid range hotels such as Mercure or Novotel but there are no such hotels in the Phils, so I go to Pan Pacific, Hyatt.

Its worth mentionning because in BKK 4/5 stars hotels there are plenty and it cost probably half of the Manila prices.

Personnaly I don't go on holidays to eat like locals at Jollibies, so I go for better places.

In cebu I don't know the hotel you have been too, but I was at the Marriott once (ok place but needs a refurbishing but great buffet lunch. Dinner) and at the Plantation Bay great place but very expensive.

Also check prices in high season in Boracay its crazy. Overall the Phils are cheap of course as its the 3rd world, but if you want to live with western style of confort, then the story might differ a little bit.

The only thing that remains cheap in any cases would be girls!

Starchild2012
04-12-10, 14:07
Can someone please tell me if the rumour that Paseo Disco in Cabahug, Mabolo has closed down, is true? Save me a trip out there if it has. Curious to know how long it has been closed if so, cause place was huge and very successful times I went there.

Thanks in advance for any info.

yeah, it was still closed till last month as far as i know......Juliena is opened, which is more or less the same crowd and more fun...you can pick up bars girls and if you lucky some regular chicks too.

When u go to Juliena or other clubs ask around, they party girls and guys will know if paseo is opened

Sxxxx
04-12-10, 23:47
yeah, it was still closed till last month as far as i know......Juliena is opened, which is more or less the same crowd and more fun...you can pick up bars girls and if you lucky some regular chicks too.

When u go to Juliena or other clubs ask around, they party girls and guys will know if paseo is openedI thought you would pop up at same stage, cause you and I talked about Paseo on this thread some time ago.

Thanks for the info.

Superman06
04-13-10, 01:59
I agree with that statment if you want to live like locals. I mean personnally I can't find a descend hotel room in Manila for less than 130 USD. In europe I'd go to mid range hotels such as Mercure or Novotel but there are no such hotels in the Phils, so I go to Pan Pacific, Hyatt.

Its worth mentionning because in BKK 4/5 stars hotels there are plenty and it cost probably half of the Manila prices.

Personnaly I don't go on holidays to eat like locals at Jollibies, so I go for better places.

In cebu I don't know the hotel you have been too, but I was at the Marriott once (ok place but needs a refurbishing but great buffet lunch. Dinner) and at the Plantation Bay great place but very expensive.

Also check prices in high season in Boracay its crazy. Overall the Phils are cheap of course as its the 3rd world, but if you want to live with western style of confort, then the story might differ a little bit.

The only thing that remains cheap in any cases would be girls!
I'll be the first to admit that I'm a thrifty traveler. The Diplomat Hotel is mostly filled with Western guest and indeed was the only place in all of Cebu that the air conditioner was cranked to really cold. The malls all seemed to have a temperature of 79 or 80f. BTW The Diplomat has been well reviewed here and on several other sites.

I've never had a problem eating like a local in any country I have ever visited. For me it's part of the adventure. Not that all local food agrees with me. Jolibees doesn't count, it's just a bad imitation of bad Western fast food. I ate in several small cafe type places that had mostly good food for very low prices. There is a really good Italian place (forgot the name) near Mango Plaza that was excellent. Lechon (roast pig) from the food court in Robinson Mall was outstanding. I also noticed sodas here are sweetened with cane sugar instead of high fructose corn syrup.

The only real concessions I made for Western comfort were taxi cabs and my hotel. I don't fly half way around the world just to experience what I can at home. I enjoy the monger experience at a low price for sure but I also want to experience to some extent the culture of a country.

Stroker Ace88
04-13-10, 04:05
Me: Hi, I'm in Cebu city now. Are you busy?

Girl: Really? When will you get here?

Me: Are you in Cebu city now?

Girl: I'm ok. How are you my dear?

Bopalula,

You have to understand and accept that these girls chat with alot of losers online that go on and on about all the wonderful things they will do when they arrive in Cebu, (shopping, going to the movies, alot more shopping). Only one problem, 90% or more of those guys will never ever leave the sofa in there parents basement and can only pay for the membership to FH or CB in hopes of chatting with a few hot young girls and tricking them into falling in love with them and getting them to take off some clothes so they can have a thrill.

I have heard that story time and time again from girls in the PI, about how they met this nice guy online and chatted for months and then they figured out the guy has no intention to come see her so they moved on.

So when you text her or send her a message on YM that you indeed are in Cebu City, the girl is often surprised and wants to make sure by asking again where you are. Even if for a month straight before your trip you have told her when you will be in Cebu City she will refuse to get serious and will only get excited when you do show up in town.


Me: Can you meet me down at Robinson's mall?

Girl: What do you mean "meet me down at Robinson's mall?

Me: What don't you understand?

Girl: Oh, you mean meet you down at Robinson's mall?

Me: Um, ya.

What you wrote was perfect English but was too confusing for her. Instead of "Can you meet me down at Robinsons mall" you should of wrote "Can you meet me at Robinsons Mall"? The word "down" to her means lower or under and so she wanted to figure out what you meant and so she asked again.

I always use simple words and often use more words to make sure she understands. Not that most of the girls are dumb or slow, it's just that English is there second language and most girls do not get to use English on a daily basis as often it is only a few words mixed in here and there.

Also Robinsons mall is a chain and now there are two Robinsons located on Fuente Osmena. The old Robinsons that is located in the same complex as the Midtown Hotel, and has both the Robinsons grocery store in the basement and the Robinsons department store on the upper levels, and the brand new Robinsons Cybergate Mall also located on Fuente Osmena.

Cybergate is located on the direct opposite side of the park and featues a Mooon Cafe and several other fast food chains, it bright and brand spanking new. Look for the big red "R" on the building. It' s just a pain to get there as you have to cross against traffic that's turning up Osmena Boul towards the Capital.

Starchild2012
04-13-10, 05:42
Bopalula,

You have to understand and accept that these girls chat with alot of losers online that go on and on about all the wonderful things they will do when they arrive in Cebu, (shopping, going to the movies, alot more shopping). Only one problem, 90% or more of those guys will never ever leave the sofa in there parents basement and can only pay for the membership to FH or CB in hopes of chatting with a few hot young girls and tricking them into falling in love with them and getting them to take off some clothes so they can have a thrill.

I have heard that story time and time again from girls in the PI, about how they met this nice guy online and chatted for months and then they figured out the guy has no intention to come see her so they moved on.



Very well said and 100% true...when i bring girls home, i see them opening their yahoo messenger in my place. i see 100s of contacts and some message invariably pops up live and the guys chat away promising to come to the Philippines soon and wanting to see some tits untill he makes up to PH.

I know how it feels, i only have empathy for guys leaving on the basement and can't make it. I admit, i was once like that, just couldn't control it, until i came here..but 90% of the guys never make it....due to lots of issues like money, jobs other commitments...guess one had to be lucky even to make it here and then hunt for girls.

One will only know, what they are truly missing, when they land here...no comparison between real world and internet chatting.

Other thing is, girls don't last on chat room or Dating sites for long, they are in it for few months and they never come back..even the hardcore chatter leave the dating sites. I have had lots of contacts, but never saw them again after few months.

If you get a girl and can't meet her in couple of months its gone for ever..unless you are really committed and send her money etc.

Bopalula
04-13-10, 06:08
Bopalula,

You have to understand and accept that these girls chat with alot of losers online that go on and on about all the wonderful things they will do when they arrive in Cebu, (shopping, going to the movies, alot more shopping). Only one problem, 90% or more of those guys will never ever leave the sofa in there parents basement and can only pay for the membership to FH or CB in hopes of chatting with a few hot young girls and tricking them into falling in love with them and getting them to take off some clothes so they can have a thrill.

I have heard that story time and time again from girls in the PI, about how they met this nice guy online and chatted for months and then they figured out the guy has no intention to come see her so they moved on.

So when you text her or send her a message on YM that you indeed are in Cebu City, the girl is often surprised and wants to make sure by asking again where you are. Even if for a month straight before your trip you have told her when you will be in Cebu City she will refuse to get serious and will only get excited when you do show up in town.

What you wrote was perfect English but was too confusing for her. Instead of "Can you meet me down at Robinsons mall" you should of wrote "Can you meet me at Robinsons Mall"? The word "down" to her means lower or under and so she wanted to figure out what you meant and so she asked again.

I always use simple words and often use more words to make sure she understands. Not that most of the girls are dumb or slow, it's just that English is there second language and most girls do not get to use English on a daily basis as often it is only a few words mixed in here and there.

Also Robinsons mall is a chain and now there are two Robinsons located on Fuente Osmena. The old Robinsons that is located in the same complex as the Midtown Hotel, and has both the Robinsons grocery store in the basement and the Robinsons department store on the upper levels, and the brand new Robinsons Cybergate Mall also located on Fuente Osmena.

Cybergate is located on the direct opposite side of the park and featues a Mooon Cafe and several other fast food chains, it bright and brand spanking new. Look for the big red "R" on the building. It' s just a pain to get there as you have to cross against traffic that's turning up Osmena Boul towards the Capital.

SA88

I understand what you mean about the 'down at Robinson's mall" being confusing. Actually I thought about that after I posted it on here. Not sure about the logic behind them chatting lots of losers, but I do agree with that particular point and appreciate the constructive criticism. Especially when it is in defence of these nice girls that we're lucky as hell to meet.

Bopalula

Sxxxx
04-13-10, 09:27
Bopalula,

You have to understand and accept that these girls chat with alot of losers online that go on and on about all the wonderful things they will do when they arrive in Cebu, (shopping, going to the movies, alot more shopping). Only one problem, 90% or more of those guys will never ever leave the sofa in there parents basement and can only pay for the membership to FH or CB in hopes of chatting with a few hot young girls and tricking them into falling in love with them and getting them to take off some clothes so they can have a thrill.I smiled when I read that. Sad that some guys are so fixed in life. Let us rejoice it is not us.

And of course if they all turned up there would be less for us, lol.

Buko Max
04-13-10, 18:58
Can someone please tell me if the rumour that Paseo Disco in Cabahug, Mabolo has closed down, is true?
Yes that club has been closed for almost a year. Initially they were closing it for remodeling but as with many things in Philippines, the plans fell through. Something to do with a landlord/tenent squabble.

If you are in that area, check out the upscale 'Halo' complex just down the street. Owned by the same owners as 'Autoshop' in Mango Square.

Sxxxx
04-13-10, 22:23
Yes that club has been closed for almost a year. Initially they were closing it for remodeling but as with many things in Philippines, the plans fell through. Something to do with a landlord/tenent squabble.

If you are in that area, check out the upscale 'Halo' complex just down the street. Owned by the same owners as 'Autoshop' in Mango Square.Thanks for info , when it closed and why it closed was important to me. Typical scenario no doubt where tenant starts making money so Landlord increases rent to an uneconomical amount. Landlord then ends up with an empty shell and no rent. Typical South East Asian effort.

I will check out Halo in my upcoming September trip. Although the fact that it is upscale worries me a bit , lol.

Thank you Loser5 and Mattrick.

SergeantRay
04-14-10, 01:38
I didn't believe it, but I've had it confirmed by Filipinas, that many guys are merely armchair jockeys fantasizing of making it to the Philippines.

One girl who collected hundreds of dollars from guys overseas, who never made it over, told me how common it was for lonely, isolated guys to live in a fantasy land, and never actually set foot in the PI. She wasn't a scammer, but a cute, intelligent young lady looking for a relationship, and finding nothing but dreamers and losers.

To me, going to the PI makes life worth living. It is the single greatest discovery of my life. And yet I can't get the number of guys who can't get off their asses and get to the PI.

Gogobarlover
04-14-10, 04:41
I didn't believe it, but I've had it confirmed by Filipinas, that many guys are merely armchair jockeys fantasizing of making it to the Philippines.

One girl who collected hundreds of dollars from guys overseas, who never made it over, told me how common it was for lonely, isolated guys to live in a fantasy land, and never actually set foot in the PI. She wasn't a scammer, but a cute, intelligent young lady looking for a relationship, and finding nothing but dreamers and losers.

To me, going to the PI makes life worth living. It is the single greatest discovery of my life. And yet I can't get the number of guys who can't get off their asses and get to the PI.Yup, what SergeantRay and Stroker Ace88 just mentioned is true. I chat with alot of pinay girls. Some of the men have no intention of meeting these girls they chat with but, they just enjoy chatting with them. Some men don't mind sending money to a pinay girl just to establish that friendship. Just having someone to chat with or talk to makes them happy. They are content with that already. Some males are already with a significant other but chat with other girls as an escape especially when their current relationship is not going all too well. Just hearing or communicating with that long distance pen pal can brighten ones day.

Other males on the other hand, just want to see the girl naked in front of the cam and show their body. If they do it, then they would send money. Practically 95% of the pinay girls tell me this. I remember I came across a female who was testing me to see if I was like that as well. I guess I don't blame her if alot of other guys do it.

But, it goes both ways as well. Some men did make the effort to meet the girl. But, come to find out, she was too shy to meet and was also too young. Other girls don't follow through in meeting up when the man is there. But hey, that's why you have backup. It's expected that not all of them will want to meet up. If one don't show up, contact the other whose on the list.

For the guys who do get all perverted on these girls, it makes the others guys who aren't like that look bad. The same applies to girls who scam guys online. It makes the others girls who are really good girls look bad as well.

Buko Max
04-14-10, 06:53
my local peeps tell me that there was a fire at sd yesterday!
structurally, it is all there but hard to say how much damage there was inside.
might be a while before it reopens.

Gogobarlover
04-14-10, 08:06
my local peeps tell me that there was a fire at sd yesterday!
structurally, it is all there but hard to say how much damage there was inside.
might be a while before it reopens.what? awww man. wanted to check this bar out next month. shucks.

PolyOrchid
04-14-10, 10:49
my local peeps tell me that there was a fire at sd yesterday!
structurally, it is all there but hard to say how much damage there was inside.
might be a while before it reopens.walked by an hour ago. they were madly clearing out all the debris from inside, and lots of girls milling around. whether it will be re-fitted or claimed by the developers in the area is anyone's guess.

Stroker Ace88
04-14-10, 18:06
Mattrick,

I guess my plan to hold my wedding reception at SD just went up in flames. lol :D

Here is a link to a story in the Cebu SunStar that has more info about the fire. The best part of the article IMHO is this statement...

"When the fire started at 3:15 p.m., passing pedestrians were surprised when employees of Silver Dollar Bar and Restaurant—mostly women serving as guest relations officers—rushed outside the establishment, wearing nothing but red bikinis and leather boots."



http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/fire-breaks-generator-uptown-bikini-bar-overheats

Spry Man
04-15-10, 12:59
Was in Cebu 3 weeks ago and Paseo has not only closed down but has gone! Only the roof is left standing and the area underneath is a wasteland now! Shame as that area seemed to be up and coming.

Redman69
04-15-10, 13:46
Heard that the developers want that property.

Wicked Roger
04-15-10, 20:17
Walked by an hour ago. They were madly clearing out all the debris from inside, and lots of girls milling around. Whether it will be re-fitted or claimed by the developers in the area is anyone's guess.

My source suggests it will be repaired and work will be back to normal evetually but it tad upsetting as SD seems to be a far better place under the new owner than before......chat soon Polyorchid, trust you are settling in well

Robbaf
04-15-10, 22:22
GERALDINE Gella, 27, sent off at the airport last Tuesday night an American man who used to be her boyfriend. About six hours later, she strangled his current girlfriend.

Gella told police investigators it was self-defense.

She tried to cover her tracks by stuffing the victim, Marylyn Zacal, 22, inside a suitcase and dumping the body in a grassy lot in Talisay City.

But her brother, who refused to help her get rid of the body, called the police while she was away.

When the single mon returned to her home in Barangay Buaya, Lapu-Lapu City, a police team was waiting.

Homicide investigator SPO1 Rolito Jumao-as hasn’t ruled out the possibility the attack was planned.

“Siya mao’y akong nakita nga dunay motibo sa pagpatay (She seems to have a motive for attacking),” he said.

Police have yet to decide whether to file a case for obstruction of justice against taxi driver Jay Blanco, who picked up Gella in Lapu-Lapu, placed her heavy suitcase
inside the car and drove her to Talisay City.

Blanco said he had no idea the bag contained a dead woman—until Gella asked her to dump its contents.

“Oy, tawo man lagi na day,” Blanco recalled his reaction.

Zacal’s older sister Mary Joy said in a televised report that she is convinced the killing was premeditated, because the suspect was jealous.

She said she told Marylyn not to see Zacal, who called her up invited her to go out Tuesday night.

“Akong gibadlong akong manghod kay dili ko mosugot nga magkita sila pero akong manghod ang wala magpapugong ka’y amiga ra kuno sila (I told her I wouldn’t let her see Zacal but she insisted. She said they were friends),” she said.

Gella sent off her ex-boyfriend Mark Mosley, 48, at the Mactan airport where he had a 9 p.m. flight last Tuesday.

In an interview, Gella said she and Mosley broke up two years ago because of Zacal, but that she and the new girlfriend stayed friends.

She called up Zacal and invited her to go out dancing. They meet at a bar in Lahug, where they drank some tequila and Tanduay rum.

Gella said she brought Zacal to her house in Buaya because the latter wanted to see what appliances the American national had bought for her.

Gella, who hails from Tabango, Leyte, said she told Zacal she received P16,000 to P20,000 a month from Mosley. Zacal reportedly said she received only P4,000 to P6,000.

Zacal, according to Gella, clenched her fists and tried to grab her hair twice. They grappled until Zacal fell on the bed. That’s when, Gella said, she grabbed an electrical cord and tied it around Zacal’s neck.

“Wala na siya makasukol nako kay iyang usang kamot nadat-ugan man sa unlan og ang usa natabonan sa habol (She couldn’t fight back because one of her hands was under a pillow, while the other was under a blanket),” said Gella.

But PO2 Epifanio Comedido, a homicide investigator with the Talisay City police, said the victim had no other bruises or marks except for those on her neck.

There were no signs of a fight. He said Zacal, who was bigger and taller than Gella, could have been killed in her sleep.

“That’s one thing that we should look into. Whatever we gather here, we will submit it to the Lapu-Lapu City police, being the lead investigating unit,” he said.

When Zacal’s body was found in a hilly portion of Linao, Talisay City, she was barefoot. Her legs were bent.

Her body was found past 5 a.m. in a vacant grassy lot in Sitio Antipolo, Barangay Linao, just 50 meters away from the Talisay City Rehabilitation and Detention Center.

Gella later revealed that Mosley had been her boyfriend for six years. Zacal, she said, was engaged to the foreigner this past year.

When she saw the police car parked outside her house, Gella allegedly tried to escape by ordering the cab driver to make a U-turn.

The police caught them both.


http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/woman-kills-ex-lover%E2%80%99s-gf

Robbaf
04-15-10, 22:25
My source suggests it will be repaired and work will be back to normal evetually but it tad upsetting as SD seems to be a far better place under the new owner than before......chat soon Polyorchid, trust you are settling in well
I will be in Cebu tomorrow and I will try and get a update. I talked to one of my friends yesterday and all she knew was the bar was still closed, she isn't working and no idea when they will open back up. I do feel bad for Carl, as he has invested time and money to make it a better place:(

Robb

Wicked Roger
04-16-10, 09:04
I will be in Cebu tomorrow and I will try and get a update. I talked to one of my friends yesterday and all she knew was the bar was still closed, she isn't working and no idea when they will open back up. I do feel bad for Carl, as he has invested time and money to make it a better place:(

Robb
I agree Robb, he has made it a place to visit as before he came IMHO it was a dump and I never returned. Will take time I am told but he will open as he had a good business now, good girls etc

As for the girls am sure you can help a few of them..;)

Also my fav friend is back on Sunday and am hoping to be there soon(ish) also....now planning weekend trips despite a 15 hour flying time...cheap flights from here for me so why no indulge my elderly body

Starchild2012
04-16-10, 14:26
hope SD had insurance

Member #1453
04-18-10, 05:29
Anybody stay there?

Any problems pulling in girls?

Quality of rooms?

Thanks in advance.

Buko Max
04-19-10, 14:10
Never stayed there although their location is good.
Haven't heard any intell on this place so if you
stay there, write a short review.

Robbaf
04-19-10, 22:56
I agree Robb, he has made it a place to visit as before he came IMHO it was a dump and I never returned. Will take time I am told but he will open as he had a good business now, good girls etc

Good news, SD should be back in business in a week:)


Robb:)

Member #4351
04-19-10, 23:05
Keep us up to date please. I´ll be there in a couple of weeks.

The Rooster1
04-20-10, 03:22
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, finally back after the grips of training in the states... Hit Blue Angels last night and partied and spent money like it was my first trip to the Phils.... But boy did I have fun.... A whole mess of nice girls and I was the only customer, AND I LOVED IT! They open at 400pm now... Yes I BF and it was good.

Ran into the owner of SD and he said that SD is kind of open, so I'm going to kind of take a look at noon today for a nooner to help the cause... I will update, but it didnt sound like they were in full swing. Give me a cold sml, a chair and a girl and I don't give a shit what the place looks like! Oh, maybe some ac would be nice with this frickin heat wave!


Peace out!

Starchild2012
04-20-10, 07:52
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, finally back after the grips of training in the states... Hit Blue Angels last night and partied and spent money like it was my first trip to the Phils.... But boy did I have fun.... A whole mess of nice girls and I was the only customer, AND I LOVED IT! They open at 400pm now... Yes I BF and it was good.

Ran into the owner of SD and he said that SD is kind of open, so I'm going to kind of take a look at noon today for a nooner to help the cause... I will update, but it didnt sound like they were in full swing. Give me a cold sml, a chair and a girl and I don't give a shit what the place looks like! Oh, maybe some ac would be nice with this frickin heat wave!


Peace out!

Sounds like you are having a blast. pretty much, what one can expect in cebu....i miss cebu...it was my first love :)

The Rooster1
04-21-10, 05:56
silver dollar is open. the front part of the bar is open and the back of the bar is covered with a big tarp/drape... you have to walk through the construction to use the head.. they are opening at 300pm.

went around 600pm or so and it was pretty crowded with plenty of talent.. everyone was cheerful. yes, i bf'd and it was good..

PolyOrchid
04-21-10, 06:55
I took this picture a few days ago but am only now getting a chance to post it. They were busy clearing out the debris. Notice how some of the plastic bottle cases have melted from the heat.

Robbaf
04-22-10, 22:36
ahhhhhhhhhhhh, finally back after the grips of training in the states... Hit Blue Angels last night and partied and spent money like it was my first trip to the Phils.... But boy did I have fun.... A whole mess of nice girls and I was the only customer, AND I LOVED IT! They open at 400pm now... Yes I BF and it was good.
Peace out!
What is it about this bar??? My first time in here (me and a buddy) I spent 3200P (one barfine) in two hours. We were the only ones in the club and we had a great time. I haven't been back yet due to location location location.

Robb

Buko Max
04-23-10, 01:42
We were the only ones in the club and we had a great time. I haven't been back yet due to location location location.

Hit Blue Angels last night and partied and spent money like it was my first trip to the Phils.... But boy did I have fun.... A whole mess of nice girls and I was the only customer, AND I LOVED IT! They open at 400pm now... Yes I BF and it was good.
Pretty much had the same experience as you guys only I did not BF. Had a blast too with seven or so lovelies, then on to the next bar. Max was managing at the time and made me feel at home. Very incognito location and easy to miss. Who is the current manager?

Robbaf
04-23-10, 10:31
Pretty much had the same experience as you guys only I did not BF. Had a blast too with seven or so lovelies, then on to the next bar. Max was managing at the time and made me feel at home. Very incognito location and easy to miss. Who is the current manager?
I didn't see or meet any manager. I did see Chris (Prior SD owner) come in, but he never came over.

Robb

PolyOrchid
04-26-10, 10:19
Met with the very beautiful, passionate, and sweet Miss A, a referral from Wicked Roger. Miss A is only 19 so exhibits a very charming and real innocence but get her warmed up and she quickly shows a very passionate and lusty streak.

We met at the SM mall, chatted a bit, and then proceeded to a local cockpit hotel near SM. I took my time and slowly and enticingly savored the slow removal of her blouse to reveal a beautiful set of 32 B's, I would guess. I had placed a blindfold on Miss A before starting the unwrapping, and teased her as I explored one spot, then the next, keeping her guessing where my hands, my tongue, my toys would surprise her next.

Finally, even my Spartan resolve would not be pressed any further, and I removed the blindfold and let her explore the goods she'd so soon be sampling herself. We spent the next 45 minutes slowly exploring, teasing, titillating, and sampling each other until I could contain myself no longer. AH, what an orgasmic and exciting finish she brought me to.

During intermission, we had the most wonderful conversation as we got to know each other a bit and laughed and joked around. She's a very inquisitive, smart, and curious young lady and is a truly delightful conversationalist.

Of course after about 30 minutes of this, The Bishop announced he was ready for the second and final rite of the night. This time, we more slowly and gently enjoyed ourselves.

This girl is a true jewel, and if you'd like to meet her, I can highly recommend her. Communicate with Wicked Roger for contact details.

Whatsgoingon
04-26-10, 16:37
I agree Robb, he has made it a place to visit as before he came IMHO it was a dump and I never returned. Will take time I am told but he will open as he had a good business now, good girls etc

As for the girls am sure you can help a few of them..;)

Also my fav friend is back on Sunday and am hoping to be there soon(ish) also....now planning weekend trips despite a 15 hour flying time...cheap flights from here for me so why no indulge my elderly bodyWR - I've read many of your posts on the UAE forum. I'm arranging a "business trip" to the Philipines having been there 15 years ago and stunned at the beauty of the ladies.

Things change alot in 15 years and I'd rather go somewhere a little safer even if there is less choice.

I also prefer the general look of girls from Cebu.

With your experiences of Fili's and the place which is the better city to head for to get more GFE and safer mongering?

I have RTFF and there are many opinions but I sure would appreciate yours relative to UAE.

Thanks

Naughty Nigel
04-27-10, 00:14
Guys, my dates are always late and I need something to do while I wait for them. Kill some time until they show up. I usually operate around the ayala mall. Can anyone recommend a few good massage parlors around the ayala mall where I can get my rocks off when my date is a few hours late? Day time operations would be ideal. Thanks

Nigel

Superman06
04-27-10, 01:01
silver dollar is open. the front part of the bar is open and the back of the bar is covered with a big tarp/drape... you have to walk through the construction to use the head.. they are opening at 300pm.

went around 600pm or so and it was pretty crowded with plenty of talent.. everyone was cheerful. yes, i bf'd and it was good..
well, that's great news. it was probably time to do little renovation work anyway.

Wicked Roger
04-27-10, 10:44
WR - I've read many of your posts on the UAE forum. I'm arranging a "business trip" to the Philipines having been there 15 years ago and stunned at the beauty of the ladies.

Things change alot in 15 years and I'd rather go somewhere a little safer even if there is less choice.

I also prefer the general look of girls from Cebu.

With your experiences of Fili's and the place which is the better city to head for to get more GFE and safer mongering?

I have RTFF and there are many opinions but I sure would appreciate yours relative to UAE.

Thanks


Well.....everything depends on flavour and some guys who are more regular in the country will be better at replying but for me..

Cebuanas are my favourite, if you need to get laid then AC as if you cant get laid there you are sad man :D, Manila is not everyone's cup of tea as it can be noisy, polluted and expensive and IMHO more mercenaries etc

Personallu I like Cebu and Davao over Manila and AC and prefer the girls from there also...but each to his own

The filis from the UAE that i have seen tend to be Manila or Cebu based - well in that vicinity. But they are so much nicer when you are in the PI as you will fall in lust all the time :D

Check your PMs as well

Red Kilt
04-27-10, 11:30
Well.....everything depends on flavour and some guys who are more regular in the country will be better at replying but for me..

Cebuanas are my favourite, if you need to get laid then AC as if you cant get laid there you are sad man :D, Manila is not everyone's cup of tea as it can be noisy, polluted and expensive and IMHO more mercenaries etc

Personallu I like Cebu and Davao over Manila and AC and prefer the girls from there also...but each to his own
,,,,,,,

I am with you on this Roger.

I live in Manila but I get most of my mongering kicks in Cebu and Davao because it just feels better for me and the girls go a long way towards helping that happen. AC does nothing at all for me, and I choose to avoid it now and head straight to the Visayas when I can

Robbaf
04-27-10, 22:35
Well, that's great news. It was probably time to do little renovation work anyway.
I don't know when your last visit to SD was, but if you don't know the new owner has been renovating for the last 6-8 months and IT is finally starting to come together. I was really impressed on his improvements.

Robb

GregLondon
04-28-10, 03:29
A 21 year old 3rd year nursing student friend of mine in Cebu has got herself big trouble by getting pregnant. Though this is nothing exceptional in Cebu - there are urchins running around getting pregnant all the time - it's a life changer for her as she is from a poor one parent family already struggling to pay the tuition fees. Her mum has thrown her out of the house and she has no money or resources.

She's an upmarket girl in terms of intelligence (though not illustrated by the current predicament) and looks (cute slim (pre bumb) big boobs (even bigger now) and conversation etc.

Her immediate needs are food and somewhere to stay. She is willing to please. Anyone in Cebu who might be interested drop me a PM for contact details.

Member #4647
04-28-10, 05:34
How many months pregnant is she?

GregLondon
04-28-10, 11:46
How many months pregnant is she?

about 3 and a half months gone

Amavida
04-28-10, 18:04
A 21 year old 3rd year nursing student friend of mine in Cebu has got herself big trouble by getting pregnant.A third year nurse should know bloody better. She would have ample knowledge to avoid this. For the sake of 60 pesos for a pack of Lady Pills [TM] she gets herself up the duff?


it's a life changer for her as she is from a poor one parent family already struggling to pay the tuition fees. Her mum has thrown her out of the house and she has no money or resources.Too bloody right it's a life changer - she has totally stuffed any chance of a decent life.


She's an upmarket girl in terms of intelligence (though not illustrated by the current predicament) and looks (cute slim (pre bumb) big boobs (even bigger now) and conversation etc.

Her immediate needs are food and somewhere to stay. She is willing to please. Anyone in Cebu who might be interested drop me a PM for contact details...and so she begins her new life as a bottom of the barrel prostitute.. I see it every day.. If she is anything like most of them she will dump the kid on a relative/friend & latch onto some poor idiot foreigner. Either that or she will end up shacked up with some grubby abusive drunken trike driver living in a crowded poor neighbourhood with no money - forever.

AV

Sammon
04-28-10, 22:43
A third year nurse should know bloody better. She would have ample knowledge to avoid this. For the sake of 60 pesos for a pack of Lady Pills [TM] she gets herself up the duff?

Too bloody right it's a life changer - she has totally stuffed any chance of a decent life.

..and so she begins her new life as a bottom of the barrel prostitute.. I see it every day.. If she is anything like most of them she will dump the kid on a relative/friend & latch onto some poor idiot foreigner. Either that or she will end up shacked up with some grubby abusive drunken trike driver living in a crowded poor neighbourhood with no money - forever.

AV
More often than not this must be the girls idea to hold on to the foreigner bf. She figured if she got into U.S being a nurse she could do very well irrespective of if the husband leaves her. Ever see girls in AC really do not care if you use the condom or not. For some reason they are looking to get pregnant and have a kid. They know their family will take care of the baby while they continue to work. these girls generally have no sense of the economics of bringing up the baby. Many of these girls grew up dirt poor and they grew up somehow with the available resources.
I met a really pretty young girl in Phnom Penh and was a total GFE. I kept her for the whole five days I was there. She even went to the market, cooked seafood at home and brought it for me to eat. On the second day I told her to go home and wear something nice because I wanted to take her to the casino and afterwards dinner and dancing. In the afternoon she showed up in the same dress she was wearing the previous day. I asked her why she did not change the dress. She said this is the only one good dress she has and she washed it and after it dried wore it again. I took her to the mall and bought her a complete outfit with panties,bra and shoes as well.
She looked great.

GregLondon
04-29-10, 03:34
More often than not this must be the girls idea to hold on to the foreigner bf. She figured if she got into U.S being a nurse she could do very well irrespective of if the husband leaves her. Ever see girls in AC really do not care if you use the condom or not. For some reason they are looking to get pregnant and have a kid. They know their family will take care of the baby while they continue to work. these girls generally have no sense of the economics of bringing up the baby. Many of these girls grew up dirt poor and they grew up somehow with the available resources.
I met a really pretty young girl in Phnom Penh and was a total GFE. I kept her for the whole five days I was there. She even went to the market, cooked seafood at home and brought it for me to eat. On the second day I told her to go home and wear something nice because I wanted to take her to the casino and afterwards dinner and dancing. In the afternoon she showed up in the same dress she was wearing the previous day. I asked her why she did not change the dress. She said this is the only one good dress she has and she washed it and after it dried wore it again. I took her to the mall and bought her a complete outfit with panties,bra and shoes as well.
She looked great.

For sure Amavida is right in that a nursing student really should know better and have the sense to do something about it before it is too late. Sammon is also right in that many girls try to get pregnant with a foreigner on a head he marries me and tails he sends me some baby maintenance basis with the downside being covered by dumping the baby with mum. Several girls have almost begged me to fuck them without a condom on that basis, a very dangerous move in my view.

In this particular case she hasn't been targeting some foreigner and as of now her mum has simply disowned her and thrown her out of the house. Though I agree that mum looking after the baby whilst daughter makes money as best she can to sustain everybody maybe how it ends up.

Jack Rabbit
04-29-10, 10:39
Going with my GF to Cebu, staying at Shangra-la. Thinking of sneaking out a few times during her beauty rest for some action. Would greatly appreciate some intel: :)

1. Does Shangra-la have a lounge bar with locals or SP ready to party?

2. If so, what is the standard short time fee?

3. Even better, is there a guesthouse closeby that is girl friendly? How much would that set me back?

4. How about short time FS massages near the hotel?

Once again, any input for a fellow monger would be appreciated.

GregLondon
04-29-10, 10:52
Going with my GF to Cebu, staying at Shangra-la. Thinking of sneaking out a few times during her beauty rest for some action. Would greatly appreciate some intel: :)

1. Does Shangra-la have a lounge bar with locals or SP ready to party?

2. If so, what is the standard short time fee?

3. Even better, is there a guesthouse closeby that is girl friendly? How much would that set me back?

4. How about short time FS massages near the hotel?

Once again, any input for a fellow monger would be appreciated.

if your GF is a Filipina why not save these shenanigans and introduce her to the pleasures of threesomes

Red Kilt
04-29-10, 12:12
Going with my GF to Cebu, staying at Shangra-la. Thinking of sneaking out a few times during her beauty rest for some action. Would greatly appreciate some intel: :)

1. Does Shangra-la have a lounge bar with locals or SP ready to party?

2. If so, what is the standard short time fee?

3. Even better, is there a guesthouse closeby that is girl friendly? How much would that set me back?

4. How about short time FS massages near the hotel?

Once again, any input for a fellow monger would be appreciated.

You picked the wrong hotel for such a plan mate.
It is quite isolated and you need a lengthy taxi ride to get off premises to find what you want.
Security keeps all non-guests out of the property so no chance of any pick-ups in any lounges etc. You might get lucky with any single women who are guests and staying alone but they will probably be foreigners and not pinays and will require a lot of work.

Member #4351
04-29-10, 12:21
....or maybe the GF picked the hotel, EXACTLY for those reasons.

Buko Max
04-29-10, 14:50
Going with my GF to Cebu, staying at Shangra-la. Thinking of sneaking out a few times during her beauty rest for some action. Would greatly appreciate some intel: :)
Grab a taxi and head into Lapu Lapu city. Everything you seek is there!

Wicked Roger
04-30-10, 10:25
Sammon is also right in that many girls try to get pregnant with a foreigner on a head he marries me and tails he sends me some baby maintenance basis with the downside being covered by dumping the baby with mum. Several girls have almost begged me to fuck them without a condom on that basis, a very dangerous move in my view.

In this particular case she hasn't been targeting some foreigner and as of now her mum has simply disowned her and thrown her out of the house. Though I agree that mum looking after the baby whilst daughter makes money as best she can to sustain everybody maybe how it ends up.
Scary it certainly is....I know 2 girls not Cebu based who wanted me shag them so they could have a white baby....did not care that I would not be all they wanted was white mans baby...so weird......never did shag them as I think myseld to be a a decent guy (albeit kinky :D) ...and just diod want to add to the already overpopulated, unfed and porr country...

Only when you have been to PI and the provinces does this make sense ina bizarre sort of way

Mayntain
05-01-10, 03:01
More often than not this must be the girls idea to hold on to the foreigner bf. She figured if she got into U.S being a nurse she could do very well irrespective of if the husband leaves her. Ever see girls in AC really do not care if you use the condom or not. For some reason they are looking to get pregnant and have a kid. They know their family will take care of the baby while they continue to work. these girls generally have no sense of the economics of bringing up the baby. Many of these girls grew up dirt poor and they grew up somehow with the available resources.
I met a really pretty young girl in Phnom Penh and was a total GFE. I kept her for the whole five days I was there. She even went to the market, cooked seafood at home and brought it for me to eat. On the second day I told her to go home and wear something nice because I wanted to take her to the casino and afterwards dinner and dancing. In the afternoon she showed up in the same dress she was wearing the previous day. I asked her why she did not change the dress. She said this is the only one good dress she has and she washed it and after it dried wore it again. I took her to the mall and bought her a complete outfit with panties,bra and shoes as well.
She looked great.
Hey Bro,my hats off to you for treating the girl special. I like your style man!

Robbaf
05-01-10, 10:56
I heard that Hotrods was raided this last week. Anyone have any updates? Marked money used to barfine girl?

Robb

Marconista
05-01-10, 11:42
@Jack Rabbit.
If you are talking about Hotel Shangri-La Marctan, I was offered a HJ from the masseuse there some years back.
In the big disco downstairs there were several freelancers in the evening, but I was with the better half and could not partake.




1. Does Shangra-la have a lounge bar with locals or SP ready to party?

4. How about short time FS massages near the hotel?

Once again, any input for a fellow monger would be appreciated.

Brymor
05-02-10, 03:13
just arrived in cebu after a gruelling 24 hour journey via hong kong. the long haul from the uk to hong kong was reasonably enjoyable as there were over 100 seats empty on the flight allowing passengers to enjoy the extra space. i found a couple of empty seats with extra leg room and was able to stretch out and have a doze in reasonable comfort for economy.

my arrival at mactan was fairly smooth although there seemed added chaos and long queues to get through immigration. my trip lasts 23 days and i completely forgot about the visa on arrival being for 21 days only so when i enquired with the immigration officer he just said sort it out when you leave, the cost will be 3000 pesos. this is about the same price cathay pacific charge for changing my return ticket so either way it is not a great deal.

i decided to stick with cabin baggage this time and although it was a real challenge i managed to get three weeks worth of clothing into a small bag that just about complied with the size restrictions if you took a very liberal view. the bag itself was about 6 kilos over the maximum weight allowed but the staff at cathy pacific never once challenged me, so at least i was not waiting for luggage at the carousel for ages. since the elections are drawing nearer i found out that they are x raying all baggage from the hold which will considerably add to the delays for people waiting to get their bags back.

was met by my regular girl daisy and her two young kids. i can't tell you what a difference it makes have a familiar and smiling face waiting for you at the airport and her two kids were really excited to see me again probably at the prospect of discovering what gifts i had brought them this time.

that brings me on to another issue. i always bring a bag full of gifts with me, usually some cheap cell phones, jewellery and wristwatches. this time i felt unusually nervous going through customs as i had declared that i was not carrying jewellery or more than 10,000 pesos. the truth is that the jewellery although gold was not expensive, a few pairs of gold earings and about half a dozen cheap silver necklaces, altogether with the watches probably they did not cost more than £140 or 200 bucks. nonetheless i thought that if i played honest and declared the goods and my 20,000 pesos i would be subject to another layer of beaurocracy and delays and probably never get out of the airport, any of you fellow mongers got any experience on this front?

anyway as usual i got through customs without any problem and no search, i suspect they are more interested in stopping their own people returning from work overseas and coming back with expensive electrical goods that they can make a little money on the side from.

i made my way to my usual retreat the cebu grande with daisy and her kids. many people will wonder why i am with this girl, she is not a looker and comes with the extra baggage of having 2 young kids but i find her a pleasure to be with. she is also very open minded and even finds me cherry girls to spend time with, which i find quite enjoyable.

back at the hotel i am feeling very jet lagged and tired but daisy informs me she has already got a young 18 year old virgin waiting to meet me, an old neighbour of hers who needs some extra money. so with that news i perk up and after a shower we are all in a cab heading to the bus terminus to meet the new girl.

when we arrive the young girl is already waiting, a little chubby very shy and not my usual type but i think to myself it would be very rude to neglect a poor girl's education just because she is a little bit chubby.

i am well known at the cebu grande and i decide to take her to the sogo hotel a well known short time hotel situated a stones throw from colon street and for a short time hotel it is probably one of the cleanest and modern around.

daisy and the kids go off shopping and i pay the 390 pesos and take the girl upstairs to the room. she is very shy and nervous and confirms she has never been with a boy ever. we get undressed and she point blank refuses to take a shower despite having spent 30 minutes waiting in 35 degree heat wearing tight jeans. i automatically think to myself daty is out of the question and decide to stick to foreplay using my hands. nonetheless she is very wet very quickly, she has no idea even how to kiss and i even had to grab her arms to put them around me. i decide to mount her missionary and enter her slowly and gently, i am in no mood to mess around and i have a weeks worth of fluids waiting to get out and in no time at all i have emptied all tanks. i pull out only to find the condom i had bought earlier in shreds and cum pouring out of her pussy like the lava from an icelandic volcano. mental note never ever to use local condoms again!

she seems completey unconcerned and even refuses to have a shower preferring to wipe the cum away with the sheet from the bed. what a complete contrast to thai girls, they are like ducks by comparison, you have to fight to keep them away from water. i ask her about her menstrual cycle and ascertain that she is at high risk of getting pregnant as her next period is not due for another 2 weeks. she still did not seem to be concerned even when i told her she was likely to get pregnant....omg what is wrong with these girls?

we go down to meet daisy and her kids who are now sporting new sandals courtesy of mortman and after i tell her what happened she tells me to wait. after disappearing to the pharmacy, she is back within 5 minutes with the emergency contraception pill (15 pesos) and a bottle of water. she then instructed the girl to take the tablet there and then with the water, which she did.

we said our goodbyes and i am feeling relieved that i am not contributing to yet another street urchin on the streets of cebu city and with that daisy the kids and i return to the hotel.

i am feeling very tired by now and we all take an afternoon nap. once the kids are asleep, daisy starts stroking me in a way i know only too well and within minutes i am inside her pumping away for a second time. i am sure she gets off on the fact that i have just been with another girl, she is lucky to have such an understanding man :-)

we then fall asleep in each others arms and wake up after a couple of hours. as i get dressed i peer out of my window only to see it directly overlooks the blue angel bar. hmmmm i think, maybe if i have enough energy later!

more reports later guy!

Red Kilt
05-02-10, 04:43
just arrived in cebu after a gruelling 24 hour journey via hong kong. .............
(snip)
we then fall asleep in each others arms and wake up after a couple of hours. as i get dressed i peer out of my window only to see it directly overlooks the blue angel bar. hmmmm i think, maybe if i have enough energy later!

more reports later guy!

that is a really great report mortman. told in a straight-forward narrative of events as they occurred.
i am really looking forward to reading the next narrative (if you have the strength left in the typing fingers lol).
i love cebu. i am itching to return soon.

Wicked Roger
05-02-10, 06:40
Just arrived in Cebu after a gruelling 24 hour journey via Hong Kong. More reports later guy!
Hi Mortman

Tried to PM your box is full...any chance you can clear it

Also, what was the pill called as it can be hard to find there

Thanks

Don Roberts
05-02-10, 06:56
I arrived last week for a brief (2 week) visit-

I went barhopping Saturday (Mayday) evening- I hit Lonestar bought a few drinks for some girls- one an old acquaintance, another whose name & etc I did not recall even though I barfined her last month- Advancing age & decrepitude can be a terrible & embarrasing thing- I used to at least remember the ones I had f. D.

Lonestar has Guiness- a big plus in my mind- None of the other bikini bars that I know of has it or Cerveza Negra- a dark beer made by San Miguel which is very good according to my taste- Gecko's had it last month. But for me, public drinking in a place without available girls in their underwear is a pointless excercise-

I went into Hotrods-Open again- I like the layout- but it has some bad policies: you have to buy 4 ladies drinks for the girl before you can barfine her- this effectively raises your payout by 600 pesos- this may be waived later in the evening- I'm not sure. As I understand it, if the girl goes with you & you don't buy those 4 drinks she loses her salary (200 pesos I believe) for that day. Cheaper to just give her the 200 pesos. Same policy at Temptation- same owners.

I went to all three Viking bars, to Temptation, looked in at Papillon, Pussycats, & Dimples.

On the way to Liza's I noticed that the lights seemed to be out at Coliseum- Does anyone know if it's closed?

Lizas was full of porkers, but I stayed awhile with an old gf.

Then I looked in at the 3 Filipino bars that are close together in Mandaue- I don't remember the names' I saw a girl I did in one of the little grotty plastic chairs in that same bar 6 or seven years ago- ah, Nostalgia. All bars full of heavily smoking filipinos, 3500 peso barfines, often scammy & vermin ridden. Normally I love these sleazy little places, but not on midnight Saturday night- Friday & Saturday are amateur nights out in Barland.

I then proceeded over the old bridge to Lapu Lapu to give a drive-by at Butterfly, Chicken legs, Evening Bar (a place where I was yea & verily scammed 7 years ago by the little Gay mamasan who I still to this day call Mr Peanuts after his trick of charging 60 pesos for tiny plates of unordered peanuts, charging a 'table fee' to have a girl join you at your table- & etc).

I looked in at Dream bar, Mermaids, the old Ned Kelly bar, & Frolics-

Not having found what I wanted, I went back over the bridge to Blue Angel, barfined 2 girls, took them back home, had a nice time, & got to sleep about 3AM-

Lest anyone wonder what a 70 year old is going to do with 2 20 yo girls, please let me hasten to reassure you that the second girl is strictly used as a marital aide (usually), enabling me to attain & retain a feeble erection that even vast overdoses of Chinese pirate Viagra alone will not achieve-

Warning: The above activities performed by a specially trained Senior over a closed course-DO NOT TRY THIS AT HOME!

Happy May Day Komaraden!

Brymor
05-02-10, 12:19
Hi Mortman

Tried to PM your box is full...any chance you can clear it

Also, what was the pill called as it can be hard to find there

Thanks

Well WR since I was back down in Colon Street today I asked my gf to take me back to the pharmacy. I thought it would be easier to get the name of the pill myself and since it was cheaper than a condom it wouldn't hurt to have a little reserve just in case. After much discussion back and forth it turns out the emergency contraceptive pill the girl took, was in fact a pill to asssist with the recovery of dehydration......ohhhh shit. I was non too pleased with my gf, I should have figured that 15 pesos was way too cheap. Anyway turns out the pharmacy only stocked the normal 28 days packets of regular contraceptive pills so I went looking elsewhere.

After visiting at least 3 other pharmacies I gave up and suggested we jump in a cab to SM Mall where I knew they had two reputable pharmacies Watsons and Rose pharmacy.

Both pharmacies did not sell these pills and the girl behind the counter at Rose pharmacy was positively hostile when I mentioned the words "emergency contraception" which was all the more embarrassing because the public side of the counter was packed full of other customers who could overhear everything. I really felt like I did when at the age of 14 I went to buy my first packet of condoms at a busy chemists shop back home. I wanted the ground to open up and swallow me right there and then.

In desperation I asked my GF "surely there is somewhere in Cebu that sells these pills" She knew of one other pharmacy in Mandaue City called Bing Pharmacy that had supplied a tablet marketed under the brand name Cytotec the main ingredient of which is a drug called misoprostol which induces a miscarriage and is very effective for pregnancies under 12 weeks. We went there and I bought a course of these pills as an emergency back up just in case of the worst case scenario and they cost me 540 pesos. I am truly amazed that a pharmacy that stocks a drug which can induce a miscarriage, does not sell emergency contraception or what we call the 'morning after pill' in my country. I actually think the emergency contraception may not be legally available in the Philippines, but that does seem particularly odd since normal contraceptives seem to be widely available.

I am not a fan of self medication but in a country that makes the abortion in the vast majority of cases illegal, other options are extremely limited. There are potential side effects with this drug although from what my gf has said, it is widely used and has been used by a number of her close friends. I have tried to balance my conscience and concerns regarding self medicating with an abortive drug with the fact that her family will probably disown her if she falls pregnant. Anyway as I have said this will be a worst case scenario! Moral of this story is do not use condoms unless you know the manufacturer is reputable and tried and tested!

WR I have cleared some of my old messages so my PM function is now working

GregLondon
05-02-10, 12:28
I have found the Ansell International (green packet) the best bet in Cebu. here in Puerto Princesa Durex are also available, but for some reason more tricky to find in Cebu.

Making morning afer contraception and abortions so difficult really does cause alot of unwanted pregnancies here in the Phils. The Pope should be really hung out to dry on this one. Globally it impacts far more people than all the abused choir boys.


Well WR since I was back down in Colon Street today I asked my gf to take me back to the pharmacy. I thought it would be easier to get the name of the pill myself and since it was cheaper than a condom it wouldn't hurt to have a little reserve just in case. After much discussion back and forth it turns out the emergency contraceptive pill the girl took, was in fact a pill to asssist with the recovery of dehydration......ohhhh shit. I was non too pleased with my gf, I should have figured that 15 pesos was way too cheap. Anyway turns out the pharmacy only stocked the normal 28 days packets of regular contraceptive pills so I went looking elsewhere.

After visiting at least 3 other pharmacies I gave up and suggested we jup in a cab to SM Mall where I knew they had two reputable pharmacies Watsons and Rose pharmacy.

Both pharmacies did not sell these pills and the girl behind the counter at Rose pharmacy was positively hostike when I mentioned the wors "emergency contraception" which was all the more embarrassing because the public side of the counter was packed full of other customers who could overhear everything.

In desperation I asked my GF "surely there is somewhere in Cebu that sells these pills" She knew of one other pharmacy in Mandaue City called Bing Pharmacy that had supplied a tablet marketed under the brand name Cytotec the main ingredient of which is a drug called misoprostol which induces a miscarriage and is very effective for pregnancies under 12 weeks. We went there and I bought a course of these pills as an emergency back up just in case of the worst case scenario and they cost me 540 pesos. I am truly amazed that a pharmacy that stocks a drug which can induce a miscarriage, does not sell emergency contraception or what we call the 'morning after pill' in my country. I actually think the emergency contraception may not be legally available in the Philippines, but that does seem particularly odd since normal contraceptives seem to be widely available.

I am not a fan of self medication but in a country that makes the abortion in the vast majority of cases illegal, other options are extremely limited. There are potential side effects with this drug although from what my gf has said, it is widely used and has been used by a number of her close friends. I have tried to balance my conscience and concerns regarding self medicating with an abortive drug with the fact that her family will probably disown her if she falls pregnant. Anyway as I have said this will be a worst case scenario! Moral of this story is do not use condoms unless you know the manufacturer is reputable and tried and tested!

WR I have cleared some of my old messages so my PM function is now working

Ajacobson
05-02-10, 20:32
(.) a tablet marketed under the brand name Cytotec the main ingredient of which is a drug called misoprostol which induces a miscarriage (.) There are potential side effects with this drug although from what my gf has said, it is widely used and has been used by a number of her close friends (.)Your girlfriend would probably be the last person on earth I would consider medical advice from after what you just said few lines earlier:


(.) it turns out the emergency contraceptive pill the girl took [bought by your girlfriend], was in fact a pill to asssist with the recovery of dehydration. (.)
(.) I have tried to balance my conscience and concerns regarding self medicating with an abortive drug with the fact that her family will probably disown her if she falls pregnant. (.) Oh. And after a few minutes of thinking that through really, really thoroughly you came up with the conclusion that it's probably best for the girl to feed her that $12-abortion pill you know nothing about "as an emergency back up". The family might be happy about a foreigner-baby that promises fixed income for the next 18 years. The more I think about it, yes, I believe her family could be pretty ok with it. Don't worry too much about that in your "balance".


(.) I really felt like I did when at the age of 14 I went to buy my first packet of condoms. (.) Your sense of responsibility for your actions must still feel like the same at that age, too.


(.) I am feeling relieved that I am not contributing to yet another street urchin on the streets of Cebu City (.) Your honest concern for the poor plucks my heartstrings.

I'm not against abortions in general and especially not because of religious nonsense as long as the health of child and mother have utmost concern. If you are going to run from your responsibility, then for Christ's sake run man. But don't fool yourself into thinking you are doing what's best for the girl. You were the one banging a "young 18 year old virgin" in order to help "a poor girl's education".


(.) The vast majority of these girls are dirt poor and vulnerable and are not hardened pros. Sadly there will always be a minority of guys out there who will take advantage of a girl's good nature all to save a few meaningless pounds or dollars. (.) You said it brother. Wait. You said that? (http://internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=966091&postcount=3352)

I sincerley wish you (and the girl) get lucky and there is no pregnancy, I really do.

Brymor
05-02-10, 23:29
Was at a resteraunt called Golden Curry last night situated down the road from AA Barbecue in a road called La Guardia (hope thats the correct spelling). We were heading home to travel down to Moalboal during the night and I noticed a whole line of girls sitting down opposite the restaraunt and across the road. I don't usually bother with SW's in Cebu as they are either ladyboys or extremely rough looking, however these girls all seemed very cute, and in their late teens or early 20's. My gf commented on them as they were eyeing up potential passing trade and I guess I would have been tempted to explore a bit more had I been on my own and not travelling that night.

I can recommend the Golden Curry restaraunt it is actually a barbecue joint but much better quality than the average ones you find in Cebu City. Had the coldest SM I have ever drunk without it being frozen. Seemed to be frequented by several other foreigners last night.

Ajacobson thanks for your moralistic observations, you seem to have a good track record of posting these on the forum without contributing anything of substance. Perhaps you should join the Catholic Church here in the Philippines, they need more people like you. Why have you criticised me for trying to buy the emergency contraceptive, what would you have done in my situation please share it with the board? As for taking the other drug Cytotec, as a last resort it is better than the girl finding her own solution, maybe a back street abortionist, buying pills from a less reputable source, or disownment by her family.

GregLondon
05-03-10, 00:38
....

Ajacobson thanks for your moralistic observations, you seem to have a good track record of posting these on the forum without contributing anything of substance. Perhaps you should join the Catholic Church here in the Philippines, they need more people like you. Why have you criticised me for trying to buy the emergency contraceptive, what would you have done in my situation please share it with the board? As for taking the other drug Cytotec, as a last resort it is better than the girl finding her own solution, maybe a back street abortionist, buying pills from a less reputable source, or disownment by her family.

I agree with Mortman that the tone of the comments by Ajacobson was totally unnecessary. Mortman has written a good humoured and informative post. What is the point of trying to make the guy feel bad or foolish? Will it improve the quality of the board? Will it encourage reluctant lurkers to contribute their own reports? Or will it just feed Mr Ajacobson's ego and superiority complex ? If you have some useful advice as to how you would deal with this situation, then please share it? The tone of Mortman's report is not "I'm so clever, this is how I dealt with this situation and all you need do is follow me" it's "this is the kind of mess that one can run into in the Phils and this is how I stumbled through it." As to the moral question, my guess is that 95% of guys would regard a broken condom as an occupational hazard for the girl or at best given her a few extra bucks to buy a solution herself - which she would inevitably just keep. Ajacobson is right in that the girl's/her family's attitude to a pregnancy may not be as negative as one might imagine. If the father is a known/identifiable/contactable foreigner, they may well see it as a two way bet leading to marriage or a 18 year long income stream. On the other hand if this is the one and only time Mortman will ever see the girl and she doesn't know his name/contact details then a pregnancy may well be disastrous for the girl. In this case Mortman is certainly acting responsibly trying to ensure that she won't get pregnant. If Ajacobson or others have advice as to how this is better done, then please enlighten us.

Ajacobson
05-03-10, 00:51
Ajacobson thanks for your moralistic observations, you seem to have a good track record of posting these on the forum without contributing anything of substance. You are welcome.


Perhaps you should join the Catholic Church here in the Philippines, they need more people like you. Good idea, since I'm a devout atheist I'm eager to hammer some sense into those people. But they will probably expel me after 10 minutes or so. Jeeez, even Jehova's Witnesses don't visit me anymore after our last theological discussion a few years back. I seem to be blacklisted by them.


Why have you criticised me for trying to buy the emergency contraceptive, what would you have done in my situation please share it with the board? I haven't critizised you for that, and I can't see how you might have misread it. I would in fact consider that the best thing you tried in the whole story. I just stressed that your girlfriend who went to buy that pill and came back with a totally useless one may not be the right person to turn to for advice about the locally available abortion pills and their safety. Given your apparent lack of concern for the girl's health I don't really picture you helping out with a possibly expensive medical emergency resulting from the application, but I could be wrong of course, I don't know you.


As for taking the other drug Cytotec, as a last resort it is better than the girl finding her own solution, maybe a back street abortionist, buying pills from a less reputable source, or disownment by her family.The one possibility you totally factor out is that you could care about (and for) a possible son or daughter you may have produced (hopefully that stays an academic discussion anyway, no irony here). Other contributors, who in your eyes may have contributed more "substance" than me seem to have done that. I think it's a question of character and responsibility.

You can have all the 18-year-old-virgins you like for all that I care, the girls need the money anyway (though my new Catholic bible group may not approve of that viewpoint of me either). You seem to have stressed here a lot of how you "care" about your girls bringing gifts and such (like in the report where you just told us about the unfolding story). I like that. But the only image I can think of is "hypocrisy" if you emotionlessly state it as inevitable that a possible child of yours would become "yet another street urchin on the streets of Cebu City".

I really hope all concerned get out of this unscratched.

Ajacobson
05-03-10, 01:56
Or will it just feed Mr Ajacobson's ego and superiority complex ? Both finely dine elsewhere.


As to the moral question, my guess is that 95% of guys would regard a broken condom as an occupational hazard for the girl or at best given her a few extra bucks to buy a solution herself - which she would inevitably just keep. Is that really your opinion? If it's the totally inexperienced girls in a Catholic developing nation someone is after, don't blame them for having no clue about their sexuality. It always takes two for a consensual get-together. If we are really talking about an 18-year old virgin and not a battle-hardened AC bar girl up to every trick (and I see no reason to doubt it), I would say "occupational hazard" would not apply from the girl's side.


On the other hand if this is the one and only time Mortman will ever see the girl and she doesn't know his name/contact details then a pregnancy may well be disastrous for the girl. In this case Mortman is certainly acting responsibly trying to ensure that she won't get pregnant.I don't want to misread you but it sounds to me like it would be... sort of ok to run away? Oh, I hope we don't have people discussing next week how the girls are so stupid to become single moms when they have no clue about the economics of raising a child.

I understand you obviously don't condone critizising people for conduct they posted about themselves. I respect your opinion as honorable, I hope it's consitent, I haven't checked. On one hand people here often proud themselves of being experienced Philippine mongers. But if your actions lead to unwanted results in my opinion you and the girl are screwed and have to deal with it. Others may, for whatever justification think only the girl is screwed. I just hope the latter people don't go to church next Sunday with their wives pretending to be a good person.

For the sake of the girl I still hope all of this is just a Murphy-defying tempest in a teacup and evaporates into thin air by the girl just not getting pregnant...

GregLondon
05-03-10, 06:10
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Is that really your opinion? If it's the totally inexperienced girls in a Catholic developing nation someone is after, don't blame them for having no clue about their sexuality. It always takes two for a consensual get-together. If we are really talking about an 18-year old virgin and not a battle-hardened AC bar girl up to every trick (and I see no reason to doubt it), I would say "occupational hazard" would not apply from the girl's side.

I don't want to misread you but it sounds to me like it would be... sort of ok to run away? Oh, I hope we don't have people discussing next week how the girls are so stupid to become single moms when they have no clue about the economics of raising a child.

I understand you obviously don't condone critizising people for conduct they posted about themselves. I respect your opinion as honorable, I hope it's consitent, I haven't checked. On one hand people here often proud themselves of being experienced Philippine mongers. But if your actions lead to unwanted results in my opinion you and the girl are screwed and have to deal with it. Others may, for whatever justification think only the girl is screwed. I just hope the latter people don't go to church next Sunday with their wives pretending to be a good person.

..[/QUOTE]

Yes, in my opinion 95% of mongers in this situation would convince themselves that it was the girl's problem or perhaps give her a few bucks to sort it out. Hopefully I am being overly cynical but my gut feeling is maybe only 5% or so would be rushing around Cebu trying to find and buy a morning after pill if it took much time, effort and cash. In the case of an innocent virgin I'd hope that I'd be one of that 5% and also that I my 5% guess is too cynical.

Yes you are misreading me, my point was merely that whether a pregnancy by a foreigner is a disaster for the girl as Mortman has assumed, or an 18 year meal ticket for the whole family as Ajacobson has suggested depends very much on whether or not she can trace/contact the guy a few months later and secondly what his reaction will be. I and I am sure others have known several instances of both scenarios.

On the contrary, I think it's entirely reasonable to challenge people re behaviour that they have reported in the forum if such behaviour is irresponsible, foolish, arrogant etc. Had Mortman's reaction to the situation been "tough luck honey" I would have been amongst the first to criticise. Had he written in a boastful and arrogant tone then a bit of sarcasm might have been justified, but he didn't. Had Ajacobson offered some helpful advice as to how such a situation might be better handled, then I think we would all have appreciated his contribution more.

Buko Max
05-03-10, 07:42
None of the other bikini bars that I know of has it or Cerveza Negra- a dark beer made by San Miguel which is very good according to my taste-
On the way to Liza's I noticed that the lights seemed to be out at Coliseum- Does anyone know if it's closed?
Would have to agree that Cerveza Negra is the best beer San Miguel brews!
As far as I know, Coliseum is still up and running.

Was at a resteraunt called Golden Curry last night situated down the road from AA Barbecue in a road called La Guardia (hope thats the correct spelling).Was this resto on the same road as AA BBQ? Did they serve the food on banana leaves instead of plates?

Jack Rabbit
05-03-10, 11:26
@Jack Rabbit.
If you are talking about Hotel Shangri-La Marctan, I was offered a HJ from the masseuse there some years back.
In the big disco downstairs there were several freelancers in the evening, but I was with the better half and could not partake.

Shangri-La only has high end SPA, with 5,000-20,000 pesos for regular massage, no HJ. NO THANK YOU!

Didn't see any freelancers lurking around near the Disco. Even so, where would I take them without everyone knowing my business, when my GF is sleeping in the room? Moreover, security is crazy tight, how could they even get in the hotel?

Jack Rabbit
05-03-10, 11:31
if your GF is a Filipina why not save these shenanigans and introduce her to the pleasures of threesomes

She's Asian, but not Filipina. Yes, initially 3somes were a definite go, however, over time this perk has fallen to the wayside . . .

Jack Rabbit
05-03-10, 11:47
Grab a taxi and head into Lapu Lapu city. Everything you seek is there!

Tried to get a taxi coming out of Shangra-la to take me to Mermaids in Lapu Lapu. Driver was from Cebu City, and "claimed" not to know the bar. I should have gotten out and tried another taxi, but he offered to take me into Cebu city for some fun (plus needed an excuse to hit up a pharmacy since my girl was sick in the hotel room).

Of course, this brought the price up for taxi fare. He first took me to Gate 3, which had a boarding house of SP's from rural areas. The only talent I remotely liked gave me attitude (princess with lighter skin), so driver and I moved on to Love City. Unfortunatey, he walked me up into the bar, so I knew that I would be pegged as a tourist (even though I had lived in Manila and speak a little dagalog). Dancers were 7's, cutie came up to me 8 package, good attitude. Mamasan quoted me 550pesos for barfine, I asked how much for ST, and she said all included. WTF? Further questioning revealed she wanted 5,500pesos! Beelined out of there (worse than Burgoss Street in Manila!)

Driver took me to real ghetto, with pimps trying to stop the car, and unload their disease infested lifers . . .

Back to Gate 3. Picked "20 yr old" second choice, negotiated from 3,500 pesos to 2,000 (still too high, but tired and clock was ticking). Another 300 pesos for a guesthouse closeby, service was 7. Dropped her off (avoiding taxi money request), and hightailed it back to Shangra-la. 600pesos for driver, 200pesos tip, back to room.

Kinda fun adventure, but would have rather stayed in Lapu Lapu at Mermaids, and found a guesthouse closeby. What's the barfine and ST rate there for SP's?

Surfer
05-03-10, 12:22
Cool report Mort. Daisy sounds great.

Because of the omnipotent church, contraception (and information about it!) is in very short supply in the PI. Hopefully that will change this year with the almost certain election of NoyNoy Aquino as President on May 10 (he is 18% ahead with less than a week to go) who supports the Reproductive Health Bill that will bring the PI into the 20th century regarding contraception. His opponents use his support of the bill to attack him as pro abortion. In the meantime, carrying a tab of RU 486 (Plan be in US) is a smart idea. Or bring several, but try to sell it on the streets like they do Viagra and Cialis and you'll be deported (and banned from returning) faster than you can say Jollibee.

Medical/surgical abortion, although illegal, is widely available in bigger cities like Cebu. Not that widely used, but there.

AJacobson: As a fellow athiest I rarely quote the Bible but the adage "Let he who is without sin cast the first stone" seems to apply here. Mort was more responsible than the majority of mongers in the PI in that he used a condom (albeit an inferior locally made one which is not such a grand idea), and unless you will declare that you never bearback it seems quite hypocritical for you to come down like a ton of bricks on poor old Mort don't you think? And your comment about a foreign baby being an 18 year meal ticket suggests you have no conception (pardon the pun) for the reality on the ground in the PI where there is no functioning child support system.

Snake12
05-03-10, 14:23
Made it to Cebu for a couple of days after extended stay in Mindanao. Stayed in Fuente area with SO. Didn't have much chance to get out and about. Therefore tried some of the local massage places. No luck. Didn't push the issue, but wasn't even offered a HJ. Got the impression that the girls would be more friendly with takeout to my room. Had a couple of SMBs at Silver Doller in early evening. There were plenty of good looking young women there contrary to previous reports here. Spent some time with little spinner name of Sassy. Enjoyed her company but couldn't swing the take out. To my disapointment there was no inhouse room available for ST. Oh well. By the way observed a caucasian guy acting like a real jerk. Must be the new owner. Sure enough. Keep up the good work guys and I appreciate the informative posts on this board. Now pack to Florida, USA where I can at least get a HJ in the AMPs.

Red Kilt
05-03-10, 14:46
Shangri-La only has high end SPA, with 5,000-20,000 pesos for regular massage, no HJ. NO THANK YOU!

Didn't see any freelancers lurking around near the Disco. Even so, where would I take them without everyone knowing my business, when my GF is sleeping in the room? Moreover, security is crazy tight, how could they even get in the hotel?

None of this should be a surprise to you Jack if you read my post #3672 in response to your earlier question.
You have discovered that my advice was accurate.

Jack Rabbit
05-03-10, 16:14
You picked the wrong hotel for such a plan mate.
It is quite isolated and you need a lengthy taxi ride to get off premises to find what you want.
Security keeps all non-guests out of the property so no chance of any pick-ups in any lounges etc. You might get lucky with any single women who are guests and staying alone but they will probably be foreigners and not pinays and will require a lot of work.

Yeah, appreciated the info (hence my excursions outside). Only single women were Japanese, who spoke no English. Too risky to get busted with my GF regardless.

Brymor
05-03-10, 17:18
Mattrick
Yes spot on, it is the one that seves dinner on bannana leaves and is just down the road from AA Barbecue.

Ajacobson
I don't mind you having your point of view, and I don't want to generate an ongoing row about this any more. The point is that this could have happened to any girl whether she was an 18 year old virgin or an experienced 25 year old girl and it could have easily happened to any of us guys as well. I was simply airing my frustration at not being able to find a practical solution as easily as I could do back home. Are you saying that if you get a girl pregnant by accident that you will be happy to pay for the results for the next 18 years. Or are you saying that if she is an 18 year old virgin we should accept full financial responsibility for any offspring but that if she is more sexually experienced she deserves what she gets?
Would love to know what you would do in a similar situation?

Travelled down to Moalboal last night but due to domestic problems had to return to Cebu City this morning. Ended up at the AA Barbecue for dinner tonight in Lahug and then crossed the road to go to the Eden Pub. Ordered a Black Russian and drinks for my gf and her kids. I was feeling a bit tired and irritable and this is how the conversation went
Waiter "here is your drink sir"
Me " Thank you"
Me eyeing the drink curiously and then sips the drink tentatively
Me "Bartender what ingredients have you put in my drink, I ordered a black russian?"
Bartender " Sir it is baileys and vodka"
Me "But I ordered a black russian"
Bartender "yes sir I know you did and I put Baileys in it"
Me (getting angry) "Do you know how to make a Black Russian?"
Bartender "Yes sir it is vodka and tia maria"
Me "So why did you give me one with Baileys?"
Bartender "I don't know Sir I am sorry"

I paid for the drinks and left without leaving a tip. We went to the Sunflower Disco just a couple of hundred meters down the same road. 100 pesos cover charge per person with a reasonable live band. Drinks on the expensive side for two milk shakes and a beer and orange juice at 650 pesos. Got irritated with a large gang of loud, disruptive Korean students binge drinking on SM's and chain smoking next to me. Lost my rag with one who bent over in a drunken state and shoved his ass into my gf's face. He got the hint when forcefully shoved away. Just as well my father wasn't here, he might have given a more robust response having lost several comrades in the Korean War. Perhaps I will be less grumpy with more sleep. Not in the mood for mongering tonight, will stick with my regular gf and catch up on some much needed sleep

Robbaf
05-03-10, 22:49
Tried to get a taxi coming out of Shangra-la to take me to Mermaids in Lapu Lapu. Driver was from Cebu City, and "claimed" not to know the bar.
I was staying in Mactan a few years ago and also got a taxi that didn't know where Mermaids was. He took me to Dream and said that it was the old Mermaids.

Mermaids is located (coming from Cebu City) right passed the new bridge. If you take the new bridge going to Mactan and when you exit the off ramp have the driver make the first left U-turn he can and then proceed back towards the new bridge entrance ramp and before you get on the ramp Mermaids is located on your right. It has a small (2' X 4') flashing sign and it is right past the gas station. You have to have the taxi pull down into the parking lot as it not located on the side of the road.

Robb

Buko Max
05-04-10, 14:21
Kinda fun adventure, but would have rather stayed in Lapu Lapu at Mermaids, and found a guesthouse closeby. What's the barfine and ST rate there for SP's?Well that's the important thing as you got your jollies! :D Thanks for posting! Sounds like your driver only took you to places he would get a commission including a trip down to the mean streets of Colon!

Actually, 2000 php at Gate 3 is a good price for a westerner so you must be a good negociator! Love City is Filipino owned and his take would probably be upwards of 1500 out of that 5500 php.

Mermaids BF is 2500 php but they might try to zing you for more. Watch your tab there as well. One of the mamasans is a real looker, too bad you cannot BF her! :p

Jack Rabbit
05-05-10, 02:24
Sounds like your driver only took you to places he would get a commission including a trip down to the mean streets of Colon!


As I suspected, so I made it quite clear that if I didn't get a reasonable price after Love City that I would go back to my GF at the hotel (hence the lower price at Gate 3).

Colon streets were downright dodgy! I thought for sure I was going to get mugged or kidnapped (had happened to friends of mine living in Makati in Manila).

Too bad I missed the opportunity to hit up Mermaids (back home now). How is the quality there anyways? Is there a guesthouse closeby? (My buddy is now visting Cebu and would appreciate the Intel).

Brymor
05-05-10, 08:55
Yesterday woke up and had breakfast with the gf and kids. During breakfast the gf tells me she has already arranged a date for me at 2pm in the afternoon and that we are meeting this girl outside Metro Gaisano in Colon Street. I am eagerly anticipating this next encounter as my gf assures me that this girl although 19 is a virgin and eager to meet a foreigner.
Once breakfast is out of the way we head up to the roof for a late morning swim, my god it was hot. Reminds me of the time I stayed in Palm Springs California when the pool was like taking a hot bath.

I am a bit restless so I start exploring the views from the top of the hotel. As I look over the edge of the balcony I see three girls walking towards the hotel from one of the rear backstreets, all frantically waving to me. They are all probably very late teens and from where I am standing, appear very cute. I shout to my gf who comes over and joins in the waving. I tell her I think the girls are quite sexy and with that she shouts "wait", grabs her sandals and shoots off downstairs.

About 15 minutes later she reappears and tells me all three girls are willing to have sex with me. I look at her increduously and ask her what did she say to them. My gf replied "I just asked them if they want to fuck a foreigner for 1000 pesos" Sometimes I think the allowance I send her every month for her and her kids is money well spent.

Anyway I am now in a quandry, do I wait until 2pm and meet the girl we have already agreed to meet or do I indulge in some fun here and now. Not being as young as I used to be I decide to wait until the pre arranged meet at 2pm, I know full well I will only be able to manage one squirt and then all bets will be off until at least 4 hours have passed.

I send my gf down to collect their cell number and later we head down to Colon Street. We meet the girl as arranged who has arrived with her cousin, both of whom are 19. As soon as the greetings are out of the way, the girl trys the usual ambush, "ohh we are so hungry" I tell them both they will have enough money to buy food once I have finished with her, but I have no intentions of waiting around and feeding them both. In any case I know I am feeling so horny that the deed will in all honesty be over within about 45 minutes. The girl then turns to me and said "what are we waiting for lets go"

I return to the Sogo Hotel with everyone in tow, pay my 390 for the room and leave Daisy, her kids and the cousin waiting in reception. I give Daisy 200 pesos to get the kids drinks and ice cream and to get the other girl something.

Once in the room the girl turns to me and says "can we talk?"
"Sure thing" I say and sit down on the bed thinking to myself I don't really want to have a deep and meaningful conversation at the moment. The girl then tells me she is not ready for sex just yet and can she meet me tomorrow........Aaarghh WTF is going on???. I try to remain calm and reassure her but she is having none of it. I then asked her why she let me pay for the room but all I got was a shrug of her shoulders. It was clear from the further conversation we had that sex was not going to happen so I return to my gf in reception in a forlorn state.

Daisy has an in depth conversation with the girl and then tells me she will do it for 1500 pesos instead of the previous agreed sum of 1000. No problem I tell her but they then resume another in depth conversation in Cebuano and I wait patiently. Finally the two girls get up and leave and Daisy tells me she has changed her mind. I can't help feeling angry inside and Daisy is worried that I will hold her to blame and I reassure her that is not the case. This is the first time anything like this has ever happened to me, but I guess it is just another rich experience to add to my collection of Philippine memories.

We head back to the hotel, and Daisy gets a text from the girl asking will I agree to 3000. I tell Daisy to send a reply that I will not print here. The other three girls Daisy spoke to earlier are not available until tomorrow so Daisy tells me to go and get a GRO that night. (Bar girl to you and me). My gf is truly amazing and as you can see is very open minded. Probably one of two reasons why she is so accomodating 1) I am just so handsome and attractive with an amazing personality she will do anything to keep me, or 2) She does not want to lose her monthly allowance. It is a difficult one for me to work out, I will need to think about that a bit more :-)

I do enjoy having the gf's kids to stay as mine are all adults now, but it does prevent me having other adventures such as threesomes which I know Daisy would be happy to donif the kids were not around.

That night I head round to Blue Angels. Busiest I have seen it, with quite a few foreigners and loads of girls. I actually made a mental note and counted 14 girls all together. I was completely engulfed as I walked it with about 6 girls all crowding round me asking the usual bullshit questions. None of them really did it for me and I felt claustrophobic being crowded before I had even a chance to settle in my chair. I politely told the girls I just wanted a drink for now and that I would call one of them over if I wanted company later. They accepted with good humour and I was left alone to watch a rather boring floor show. Finished my beer and decided to leave alone and went back to the hotel woke Daisy and had a lovely blow job before nodding off to sleep.

Surfer
05-05-10, 12:06
Mort:

IMHO you should have jumped at the 3 when the opportunity presented. Strike while the iron is hot and NEVER count on things to go as expected in the PI. If you've not had a Filipina change her mind (or mood) before, how many Filipinas you've known becomes a seriously debatable question LOL

If the girl is really a virgin even 3000 would be considered cheap considering what some pay for that "privilege".

Daisy sounds like a gem. Arrange the 3 way by not being kuriput and giving the kids money to go eat and see a movie or something thereby buying you an afternoon alone with Daisy and the other girl(s).

The restaurant where they serve you on banana leaves is Golden Cowrie on the road to Lahug from Fuente. Well worth a visit and reasonably priced. Outdoor seating is hot, noisy and smoky, the indoor aircon part quite cold.

Taxis always try to get commissions but showing you know the local price to the driver, and mentioning that you'll tip him, helps reduce the commission which is negotiable (like most everything in the PI).

Marconista
05-05-10, 15:13
wow... what u say come as a surprise to me. I recall I paid about php.1100 + taxes upon checking out. Reason I recall as it was about the same as in The Manila Hotel at that time.

I shall refrain to post info if I know the info may be a few years old from now on :)


Shangri-La only has high end SPA, with 5,000-20,000 pesos for regular massage, no HJ. NO THANK YOU!

Didn't see any freelancers lurking around near the Disco. Even so, where would I take them without everyone knowing my business, when my GF is sleeping in the room? Moreover, security is crazy tight, how could they even get in the hotel?

Devils 1
05-05-10, 17:17
I am eagerly anticipating this next encounter as my gf assures me that this girl although 19 is a virgin and eager to meet a foreigner.I want to nominate Daisy for "girlfriend of the year." What ever you pay her it is definitly worth it.

But, seriously would she be willing to arrange the virgins for me for a fee?

Brymor
05-06-10, 00:48
I want to nominate Daisy for "girlfriend of the year." What ever you pay her it is definitly worth it.

But, seriously would she be willing to arrange the virgins for me for a fee?

I have already had this discussion with her a number of times. She is poorly educated (but not stupid) and dirt poor. I pay her just enough to live on, about the same she would get working in a factory doing manual work. She is more than happy with this and considering I visit 3-4 times per year, it is a good investment for me also.

I would be happy for her to provide some extra assistance for my friends and other trusted members of this board however she seems reluctant to do so at the moment. I have told her the extra income could make a huge difference to her but she sees very reluctant at present but I will try again when I am back in Cebu next week. I am heading off to CDO this afternoon to try my luck in Mindanao

Buko Max
05-06-10, 01:21
Too bad I missed the opportunity to hit up Mermaids (back home now). How is the quality there anyways? Is there a guesthouse closeby? (My buddy is now visting Cebu and would appreciate the Intel).
As with many bars in Cebu, line-ups can be great one day and poor the next.
Mermaids in general is a decent place so he should be able to find something.
Queensland (short time motel) is not far away maybe one km.
There are also many pension houses in the area.

Mayntain
05-07-10, 04:26
Queensland is borderline nasty!! Try Sogo hotel instead.

Wicked Roger
05-07-10, 08:03
Queensland is borderline nasty!! Try Sogo hotel instead.
Maybe but if you spend 2 hours just shagging the girl you tend to foget all the other scenery......:D

Redman69
05-07-10, 13:05
Mort. it sounds like you have a good girlfreind.

But, I would lay odds on the monthly allowances.

Mayntain
05-10-10, 01:00
Maybe but if you spend 2 hours just shagging the girl you tend to foget all the other scenery......:D
With a bar of soap about as big as a postage stamp and towels you can almost see thru and roaches crawling around the room,to many OTHER places to SHAG girl for my taste! Also the room is as hot as hell because the air-con sucks!! I've been to both Queensland hotels.And when you finished shagging and try and catch a taxi,they want to charge a extra fee for WAITING outside the hotel for customers! But you go right ahead and enjoy youself there mate.

Spam Hog
05-10-10, 04:24
hello guys, spamhog just checking in, haven't posted in awhile, laboring thru a computer crash and just resetting all my important "favorites" thought I'd say "Hi" and see what you lucky SOBS are up to.

Take care, anybody in Cebu town wants to give me a heads up yer welcome.

Spamhog

Brymor
05-11-10, 08:57
Have any of you guys tried the massage establishment right next door to Volvos? I popped in today to enquire. Apparently they do full body massage with prostate massage included for 1200 or with two girls for 1500. I asked the receptionist what "prostate massage" actually means. She said it includes a sensuous massage of your balls and prostate until you orgasm (her words not mine)

1500 seems like very good value for money, I am just getting ready to field test the place and will report back later. Anyone else had any experience of this place?

Red Kilt
05-11-10, 11:09
Have any of you guys tried the massage establishment right next door to Volvos? I popped in today to enquire. Apparently they do full body massage with prostate massage included for 1200 or with two girls for 1500. I asked the receptionist what "prostate massage" actually means. She said it includes a sensuous massage of your balls and prostate until you orgasm (her words not mine)

1500 seems like very good value for money, I am just getting ready to field test the place and will report back later. Anyone else had any experience of this place?

It's not new Mortman.
There are lots of posts about it here. It's one of the branches of Chuva Chuva (means lingam massage)

Put "chuva chuva" in the "Search this thread" option on the RHS above and read the posts.

I was there a month ago and it was good.

The girl quoted me 1200 for one and I asked her if they had a discount for day visit and she said "OK Sir - 1000 for you, and 1200 for 2" LOL

I took the twosome but one would have been fine as I have only one dick and one prostate, and the other girl was as useless as an ash tray on a motorbike

Brymor
05-11-10, 15:12
it's not new mortman.
there are lots of posts about it here. it's one of the branches of chuva chuva (means lingam massage)

put "chuva chuva" in the "search this thread" option on the rhs above and read the posts.

i was there a month ago and it was good.

the girl quoted me 1200 for one and i asked her if they had a discount for day visit and she said "ok sir - 1000 for you, and 1200 for 2" lol

i took the twosome but one would have been fine as i have only one dick and one prostate, and the other girl was as useless as an ash tray on a motorbike

ok wasn't sure whether it was new or not. called back this evening and was ready to pay my 1500 but the receptionist point blank refused to show me the girls. she said they are all very cute but i replied that her idea of cute may not necessarily be my idea of cute. i began walking out so she asked me to wait and called one girl who peeped at me from around the corner. i would rate her a generous 4, so declined the offer. she let me walk out without showing any other girls so either they are so busy that they can afford to lose custom, or it may be the girls are pretty average. some might argue that it dosen't matter what the girl looks like if you are having your balls and prostae massaged, but for me part of the fun is having a real cutie doing it

Uffizi
05-11-10, 23:39
Hallo Guys,

I'm complete new comer to the PI (Though, some experience with Thailand). I've considered going to Cebu as I had a lot of positive contacts on DIA from Girls residing in the city.

But is it a proper place for people new to The PI in regards to safety and mongering (In case the DIA girls don't work out?

I was also curious if other people have positive experiences with DIA as I have never used it before.

Gogobarlover
05-12-10, 01:32
ok wasn't sure whether it was new or not. called back this evening and was ready to pay my 1500 but the receptionist point blank refused to show me the girls. she said they are all very cute but i replied that her idea of cute may not necessarily be my idea of cute. i began walking out so she asked me to wait and called one girl who peeped at me from around the corner. i would rate her a generous 4, so declined the offer. she let me walk out without showing any other girls so either they are so busy that they can afford to lose custom, or it may be the girls are pretty average. some might argue that it dosen't matter what the girl looks like if you are having your balls and prostae massaged, but for me part of the fun is having a real cutie doing it

mortman, are you referring to volvo ktv on f. ramos street? was the girl ugly? hehe. if you rated her 4 then i guess she was.

Brymor
05-12-10, 03:06
Mortman, are you referring to Volvo KTV on F. Ramos Street? Was the girl ugly? Hehe. If you rated her 4 then I guess she was.

Yes it is the one next door to Volvo KTV, as Red Kilt said in his post, it is called Chuva Chuva

Wicked Roger
05-12-10, 08:08
Hallo Guys,

I'm complete new comer to the PI (Though, some experience with Thailand). I've considered going to Cebu as I had a lot of positive contacts on DIA from Girls residing in the city.

But is it a proper place for people new to The PI in regards to safety and mongering (In case the DIA girls don't work out?

I was also curious if other people have positive experiences with DIA as I have never used it before.
I really like Cebu and Cebuanas....great palce IMHO (I also like Davao)

DIA is always hit and miss see many FRs on this subject, but hang around the malls and you will be in lust very quickly and often :D..well I am :))

I think it is a safe place but Spam Hog, Mortman, Robaff and others who visit there regularly or who live there are better placed.

Red Kilt
05-12-10, 10:24
Hallo Guys,

I'm complete new comer to the PI (Though, some experience with Thailand). I've considered going to Cebu as I had a lot of positive contacts on DIA from Girls residing in the city.

But is it a proper place for people new to The PI in regards to safety and mongering (In case the DIA girls don't work out?

I was also curious if other people have positive experiences with DIA as I have never used it before.

Wicked Roger was kind to you by offering some brief advice instead of telling you to READ THE THREADS.
I am not so kind.
Why not give yourself an hour or so to READ THE THREADS here.
There is virtually a whole thread on DIA (Chat girls & Pen pals etc) with pages of positives and negatives, and under the thread Cebu you will find more than enough to satisfy ANY question you might have.
After you have done that, THEN come back and ask us some specific questions.

Brymor
05-12-10, 11:05
I really like Cebu and Cebuanas....great palce IMHO (I also like Davao)

DIA is always hit and miss see many FRs on this subject, but hang around the malls and you will be in lust very quickly and often :D..well I am :))

I think it is a safe place but Spam Hog, Mortman, Robaff and others who visit there regularly or who live there are better placed.

Yes I can vouch for that with DIA. I had what I considered lots of positive contacts for my current trip to Mindanao and Cebu, but you will find many do not work out as planned for a whole variety of reasons. Of course don't let that put you off, I would consider DIA contacts an essential part of any trip to the Philippines and do not neglect the old ugly ones either, they can be a great source for putting you in touch with younger neighbours, relatives etc.
As regards safety, as a fairly regular visitor over the last 5 or 6 years all I can say is that I have found Cebu to be very safe, at all times of the day and night. Spamhog actually lives here so maybe he has a different take I don't know? Basic common sense should always prevail and should have no problems. Take the same precautions you would in any large city and have fun!

Had a wander round Colon Street today and noticed quite a few what looked like down and out foreigners sitting in bars downing afternoon san migs. Even saw one westerner sat in the gutter with some street dwellers with a filthy looking white vest and shorts, almost looked like he had been living on the streets as well.

Went into Jonquera for some earthy excitement. I know Jonquera has been reported on hundreds of times by others who are far more knowledgeable but it doesen't hurt to give some up to date feedback. I had a quickie there today with a young looking 19 year old cutie, more to fulfill a burning need and not really worth reporting on in detail here.

For those not knowledgable, Jonquera is actually the name of a street that has adjacent to it a small town of wooden shacks and tin huts, typical slum dwellings that house many young hookers. The place is like a rabbit warren and encircles a basketball court. If you order a girl from a taxi driver, street pimp or doorman, chances are that the girl came from Jonquera. The only difference is that they will charge you anything from 1500 to 2500 whereas if you go there yourself the average rate for a few hours is 500 pesos. Quite a saving for doing your own leg work!

There are lots of alley ways leading into this place but the main entrance to this area if you can even call it that, is a wide alleyway leading from Jakosalem Street (a short walk from Colon Street). Every single taxi driver in Cebu knows this place if you want to be dropped off at the doorstep, but be prepared as they will usually insist on helping you which means paying extra to cover their cut.

Be warned it can be a daunting place for the faint hearted especially at night, it is teeming with low life pinoy scum, who look like they would most likely rob you given half a chance. Despite this appearance you are quite safe there and I have never had a problem. You will get attacked from all quarters by pimps and sellers, just be firm but polite and you will have no problems.

Afternoons and early evenings tend to be fairly quiet, however if you go around 10pm or later the place transforms, with crowds of young hookers gathered around in small groups for you to choose. For newbies I would recommend taking one or two wingmen, not really for safety but it may make you feel a bit less uncomfortable on your own.

Going there at night is like being a young child let loose in a candy shop, it is definitely the bottom end of the P4P market but trust me you will find some amazing gems there. Happy hunting I may pay another visit this evening!

Gogobarlover
05-12-10, 12:27
Hallo Guys,

I'm complete new comer to the PI (Though, some experience with Thailand). I've considered going to Cebu as I had a lot of positive contacts on DIA from Girls residing in the city.

But is it a proper place for people new to The PI in regards to safety and mongering (In case the DIA girls don't work out?

I was also curious if other people have positive experiences with DIA as I have never used it before.

Aww... yes... I agree with Wicked Roger and Mortman. I brought one of my friends who never been to PI in his life. He met up with his DIA contacts and had a good time. He enjoyed it where he wants to go to Cebu again. In fact, we are going to Cebu again. This time, we bringing another person who also has not been to the Philippines. When I went to Cebu back in 1997 for the first time, I liked the place already. I liked the girls at the malls to hehe. I can say it is a good place to go for a first time visitor to the Philippines. I would say it's just right because it's not big and congested like Manila. In Manila, it's a high chance that they will try and overcharge you on the taxi fare and not turn on their meter. It happened to me already and happened to other people as well. The taxi drivers in Cebu are more honest. I never had an issue with any of the taxi drivers not turning on their meters. It's a place that's more laid back and you pamper yourself.

Cebu is safe man. I mean yah you'll see homeless people, mother with their babies on the streets at night, young kids out at night, pickpockets and people doing Shabu there but, like other places also, they have their crimes to. You just need to use your common sense. I would say just stay in Cebu City area. Downtown Cebu city can be scary. It's dark down there. I mean it's ok to go there during the daytime and shop around but, at night it can get pretty dark. If you do go there by yourself, you should bring another person with you. I feel like something bad will happen there during the night. I was with my DIA contact and she took me there to shop around for handbags for my mom. Although she is a female, I do feel safer knowing that she knows the area better than I do.

As others have mentioned about DIA, it is hit or miss. But, that's why you have more than 1 contact. It's normal that not all your contacts will be able to meet up. Some will flake out on you. But, it's not the end if you don't meet any of your contacts from DIA. Just smile and be friendly. I'm sure you can meet someone there. Heh, since you been to Thailand, I'm sure you checked out a gogo bar already? If you have, you should check out the gogo bars on Mango Avenue (Gen Maxilom Ave)

Riverman
05-13-10, 06:08
There are lots of alley ways leading into this place but the main entrance to this area if you can even call it that, is a wide alleyway leading from Jakosalem Street (a short walk from Colon Street). Every single taxi driver in Cebu knows this place if you want to be dropped off at the doorstep, but be prepared as they will usually insist on helping you which means paying extra to cover their cut.

Mortman, thanks for your description of Jonquera. I have read many good posts on that place, but nobody really gave a good descriptions of its physical layout and nature. Thanks!

I'm arrivng in Cebu City for my first trip to the Phils in early June, just a few weeks away, and I'm very excited. I already have more action lined up from DIA (even if 90% of them flake out or no show) that I know what to do with, but I'll still be hitting the Malls and Jonquera anyway.

Wicked Roger
05-13-10, 08:37
Heard from my friends that he Mango area is not that safe due to some needle attacks, mainly gays am told, claiming HIV infection once attacked. This sounds very familar and am sure there was a FR on this a long time back. Any traction or truth in this story as if it was true it may have been reported in the local press.

Red Kilt
05-13-10, 08:43
i'm arrivng in cebu city for my first trip to the phils in early june, just a few weeks away, and i'm very excited. ........ but i'll still be hitting the malls and jonquera anyway.

[quote=mortman]
be warned it can be a daunting place for the faint hearted especially at night, it is teeming with low life pinoy scum, who look like they would most likely rob you given half a chance. despite this appearance you are quite safe there and i have never had a problem. you will get attacked from all quarters by pimps and sellers, just be firm but polite and you will have no problems.[quote]

i think i should just add a bit of a balance to the excellent description of jonquera by mort in case any of you guys (riverman included) think it might be a "walk in the park".
let's just say that if you are a hard-core monger with no responsibilities and not at all fazed by having anything go wrong for you then by all means go to jonquera.
however, if, like me, you have reputable work in the phils and want to keep everything discreet and you don't want to run the risk of getting any adverse publicity then keep away from the place.

to build on what mortman said (quoted above), i think jonquera is a cesspit specially designed for extreme bottom-feeding mongers and sleazy locals.

i have been there twice now. once was about 3 years ago with a hard-core expat monger who has lived in cebu for 15 years. he just drove me in one night in his car for me to take a look, and i never got out of the car but was still freaked out by the scene. i could almost see the stds jumping off most of the girls, not to mention that they were all either under-age or very close to it, and those that were older were very high mileage and were even way beyond being called "used". add in the baklas (bayuts), the pimps, the fat mamasans and the tough-looking local dudes (probably boyfriends etc) and i urged him to drive out of the place as fast as he could.
i went again late last year, this time with two local expat hard-core guys from cebu who are "regulars", and this time on foot and relatively early. we sat at one end of the alleyway (i wasn't prepared to "go inside"), and had a san mig and watched the passing parade, and i saw drugs being passed around, many many **** girls, and a guy threaten another one with a big-ass knife (all in around 10 minutes).
it was enough for me.
i left them there with my half-finished beer and headed back to jakosalem and grabbed a cab back to the mango bars where i felt safer.

that is just my experiences there to give a bit of balance in case anyone is lulled into thinking it is "easy". read carefully what mortman says because he too gives several warnings in case you missed the first one.

i love cebu, but i keep to silver dollar & lone star, my dia contacts, my "dates" in sunflower disco, and my periodic forays into ayala mall where i have had moderate success.

just my humble opinion and points of view.

Brymor
05-13-10, 08:55
Heard from my friends that he Mango area is not that safe due to some needle attacks, mainly gays am told, claiming HIV infection once attacked. This sounds very familar and am sure there was a FR on this a long time back. Any traction or truth in this story as if it was true it may have been reported in the local press.

Funny you should mention that, I had hooked up with one of my regulars from Talisay City last night, her and her daughter stayed over. When I mentioned to her that I had been to Mango Square the other night she almost gasped and said "do you know several foreigners have been killed there" When pressed exactly how they died she said it was from HIV infected individuals going round with used syringes and deliberately infecting foreigners.

I guess if that really did happen then we all know that any resulting death from such an attack, (HIV, Hepatitus, STD,) would in all case take years to come around. I am wondering whether this is one of those urban myths spread about in good faith by poorly educated Pinays. Or maybe there was some substance in the rumour that has grown and got out of hand as it was passed down from person to person.

Member #4351
05-13-10, 09:04
I've heard it from 6 persons since I've been here. I would imagine that it is a rumour being spread by the Mango Area competition. How long would someone who was sticking needles into sundry Mango bar visitors survive? Minutes?

Brymor
05-13-10, 09:20
Met up with a new DIA contact today at Robinsons. Have been at this mall a few times this week, seems to have the same old foreigners sat watching the world go by from the seating area by Bo's coffee shop. I guess many of them look retired, but I think it would drive me nuts everyday if I had to go there all the time just for something to do. Would love to live out here and even planned to retire here this year, but I need something productive to occupy my time. There is only so much sex a man can take per day and I don't want to be propping up bars the rest of the time, whether it is drinking beer or coffee.

My DIA date turned up late by one hour, 18 years old or running 19 as they like to say. Looked cute in a green striped dress and although not what you would call slim, she was well proportioned.

Amazingly she wasn't hungry (got to be a first for a DIA date) and even more amazingly she turned up alone rather than the usual trick of having half her family and friends arrive with her for moral support and a free treat at Jollibees.

We headed to the basement where I bought her a drink so we could chat. Turns out she was dating an american guy here for 5 months, who was living in a condo in Lapu Lapu. They split up over a year ago she told me, so I knew she probably understood what I was after. I decided to come clean and told her I just wanted some fun as I was going back to my own country and I knew that long distance relationships didn't work. She nodded shyly in agreement.

I was a bit put off by her hairy eyebrows and one discoloured tooth in the front of her mouth but everything else was ok really. In fact as I was talking to her and flirting with her I was still undecided whether to invite her back to my hotel, but then I started sensing an involuntary movement in my trousers, so from that point onwards my penis had made up my mind for me. Wish he could help with some of lifes other difficult decisions in the same way!

Got her back to the room, put on the tv which she loved and fed her some chocolate. I started kissing her on the bed as she had a mouthful of chocolate and I swear to god that within 10 minutes of entering the room we were both naked in bed. Sex was good but not memorable, she had a nice firm body and really tight ass. I seem to have hit unlucky with the girls I have met, because as we were french kissing really passionately, this one bit into my bottom lip again. WTF I am now sporting a large bruise on my lower lip and look like I have been punched by Mike Tyson.

Again as with virtually every woman I meet here, she declined a shower before we started, but had one after.
We lay in bed and I waited a respectable amount of time before telling her I had to go meet my friend that afternoon and hinting for her to get ready.

Gave her 1000 pesos and saw her off outside the hotel in a jeepney. I have been having some rather bad luck with DIA recently so this one made up for the other failures. Have agreed to take her to the movies tomorrow (if nothing else interesting comes along in the meantime)

Red Kilt
05-13-10, 11:44
Met up with a new DIA contact today at Robinsons. Have been at this mall a few times this week, seems to have the same old foreigners sat watching the world go by from the seating area by Bo's coffee shop.


That's funny. I was at Bo's a few weeks ago staying upstairs in MidTown (for a change- usually I am at Eddies) and some of those old expat guys sit there for 5 or 6 hours. Bo's (or at least the lobby in Robinsons) is a good place to meet DIA girls because they all know it. I usually get away from Bo's (as you did) as soon as I can though.

On another tangent, linked to Cebu DIA.
I have just started chatting to a new DIA contact from Cebu. (31 and looks sweet enough)
I sent her a "Hello" note with a few lines to introduce myself and she comes back to me (first message) with some nice intelligent lines and pleasant chit chat and how she hopes we can meet when I next travel to Cebu and then she went on to say
"I really like lots of foreplay and I hope you do too. I also like to lick and suck your dick but I dont want to swallow your cum and I dont like sex in the butt. I am up for anything else".
What a surprise? Nothing like understanding what I want without me spelling it out LOL.

Buko Max
05-13-10, 13:24
When I mentioned to her that I had been to Mango Square the other night...
Thanks for the always great FR Mort! Can you or anyone else on the ground tell me if Juliana is still closed?

Brymor
05-13-10, 16:50
Was back down in Jonquera this evening with another ISG member. It is always wise to be careful wherever you are and I mean no disrespect to Red Kilt and his cautionary post, but you are as safe in Jonquera as you are in any other part of Cebu. There is some truth in the old adage that if you look like a victim you will be a victim. I am not a particularly big or imposing guy and I have never ever had an ounce of trouble there, despite several visits including ones alone late at night. Any attacks on a foreigner in this place would adversely affect business and would not be tolerated by the local crime bosses who control this area. Just look self assured and confident, always be polite but firm if necessary and avoid any kind of trouble.

Tonight was fairly quiet, you need to hit the place after 10 or 11pm to find the biggest selection of girls. Do not pay more than 500 pesos for short time (means around 3 hours) or you are being overcharged.

Neither of us took a girl this evening as the limited selection was pretty uninspiring. We were there too early as I said if you go late in the evening the place is usually teeming with all kinds of flora and fauna and some real jems are to be found, hidden amongst the rough

Brymor
05-13-10, 17:28
went to vikings this evening, this was my very first time there. in my humble opinion the selection of girls tonight was plentiful but the quality was generally lacking. nothing there at all to motivate me into paying the excessive bar fine of 1700. perhaps i have had things too good (or too cheaply) in the past, but 1700 does seem a lot when this does not include the girls cut also.

a very beautiful waitress served us drinks in this place and although she admitted to being bar fined in the past, seemed reluctant to repeat the process. probably the prettiest woman in the whole place....rosario i love you!

a little disappointed, we then headed off to banilad to a local well known casa. it is about a 60 pesos ride from ayalla and ten minutes in a taxi. just ask the taxi driver for the casa (lady house) in banilad and they will usually know where to go. it is situated a couple of minutes off the main highway that runs past the country mall. the casa is really a very discreet compound with a large high steel gate that opens wide enough to allow your taxi inside. completely safe although a little dark and slightly off the beaten track.

we went into a large room and were asked to be seated whilst a whole troupe of girls arrived numbering around at least 20. huge selection of shapes and sizes all under 25 years of age. there were probably about 2 -3 girls from the whole group that i would have considered taking out, except i had already fired all tor****es that afternoon and had nothing left in reserve. some of the girls appeared bored and were just giving off some pretty negative vibes. my isg companion who was hunting for pussy was giving it some thought when in walked a bunch of korean guys.

you could see the girls positively react to the arrival of the korean guys, their eyes seemed to light up with the the same reaction that a hunter gets with the deer in his rifle cross hairs. their slightly bored demeanour changed to one of eager anticipation in an instant. must be the combination of large wallets, a small penis and the ability to cum within 4-5 strokes. (i apologise to any korean guys reading this in advance, i am only jealous)

price quoted to us was 3000 pesos which after some bargaining went down to 2000. it is my honest opinion you could get a girl here for 1500 if you were prepared to play a game of brinkmanship with the papasan.

we left empty handed and headed straight to blue angels. large selection of girls, i have been here many times and the girls change regularly so some nights may be better than others. the atmosphere was far more convivial than that we encountered at vikings, it just seems to have a more relaxed and less commercial feel about it than some of the other girlie bars. a few very attractive girls and no pressure to buy lady drinks. my companion bar fined a very nice girl, i hope he can report back on a positive experience tomorrow morning.

i am planning on hooking up with my regular gf daisy for a few days, have got a bit tired of hunting and need something available on demand when it suits me.

The Rooster1
05-13-10, 19:06
Funny you should mention that, I had hooked up with one of my regulars from Talisay City last night, her and her daughter stayed over. When I mentioned to her that I had been to Mango Square the other night she almost gasped and said "do you know several foreigners have been killed there" When pressed exactly how they died she said it was from HIV infected individuals going round with used syringes and deliberately infecting foreigners.

I guess if that really did happen then we all know that any resulting death from such an attack, (HIV, Hepatitus, STD,) would in all case take years to come around. I am wondering whether this is one of those urban myths spread about in good faith by poorly educated Pinays. Or maybe there was some substance in the rumour that has grown and got out of hand as it was passed down from person to person.

This is the first I have heard of this and I frequent there regurarly. I thought I would have heard this from the regulars that hang out in the bars as well. Nothing suprises me though!!!!!!

The Rooster1
05-13-10, 19:25
Going there at night is like being a young child let loose in a candy shop, it is definitely the bottom end of the P4P market but trust me you will find some amazing gems there. Happy hunting I may pay another visit this evening!

Isn't it great??? Almost makes me feel like I'm back in the U.S in the zone walking the alley way's will the crack heads and watching out for the local police... Sometimes it's nice finding a good score while being adrenalized with the possibility of getting caught: it is what a guy needs on occasion...

Definitely a must see, but if your the shy type don't venture this area alone in the evening time.....

The Rooster1
05-13-10, 19:31
Hallo Guys,

I'm complete new comer to the PI (Though, some experience with Thailand). I've considered going to Cebu as I had a lot of positive contacts on DIA from Girls residing in the city.

But is it a proper place for people new to The PI in regards to safety and mongering (In case the DIA girls don't work out?

I was also curious if other people have positive experiences with DIA as I have never used it before.

Just remember that when "90% are flaking out on you" probably means they are with another guy doing the deed.... They are busy just like a good bargirl.. Enjoy and be careful.

The Rooster1
05-13-10, 20:14
That brings me on to another issue. I always bring a bag full of gifts with me, usually some cheap cell phones, jewellery and wristwatches. This time I felt unusually nervous going through customs as I had declared that I was not carrying jewellery or more than 10,000 pesos. The truth is that the jewellery although gold was not expensive, a few pairs of gold earings and about half a dozen cheap silver necklaces, altogether with the watches probably they did not cost more than £140 or 200 bucks. Nonetheless I thought that if I played honest and declared the goods and my 20,000 pesos I would be subject to another layer of beaurocracy and delays and probably never get out of the airport, any of you fellow mongers got any experience on this front?

In the past 2 years I have never been stopped in the PI or Thailand and I'm in and out of both a couple times a month. I wouldn't worry about it. I would just play idiot... The only look I have gotten was leaving Manila at the first x-ray machine as I had 3 bottles of Tanduay in my checked bag. And it was only a look and was asked "Tanduay".

Key Master
05-13-10, 20:28
Went to Vikings this evening, this was my very first time there. In my humble opinion the selection of girls tonight was plentiful but the quality was generally lacking. Nothing there at all to motivate me into paying the excessive bar fine of 1700. Perhaps I have had things too good (or too cheaply) in the past, but 1700 does seem a lot when this does not include the girls cut also.


I think you are mistaken that it doesn't include the woman's cut. When I've been there before, the woman gets 1000 out of the 1700. The thing that's difficult in Cebu is that the barfine structure changes from different ownerships over there. I believe there is a bar or two over there that doesn't include a cut for the women in the barfine. Then again, maybe it changes based on the customer.

Gogobarlover
05-14-10, 01:34
I think you are mistaken that it doesn't include the woman's cut. When I've been there before, the woman gets 1000 out of the 1700. The thing that's difficult in Cebu is that the barfine structure changes from different ownerships over there. I believe there is a bar or two over there that doesn't include a cut for the women in the barfine. Then again, maybe it changes based on the customer.

I agree with Keymaster on this also. The 1700 pesos includes the BF and the girls tip. One of the girls who use to work at Vikings told me this also. 700 pesos to the bar and 1000 tip goes to the girl. From my previous visit to the bars on Mango, Vikings, BG, Erik the Red and Club Temptations all quoted 1700 pesos. Dimples and Lonestars BF was quoted higher. My friend who BF a girl at BGs bar next to Vikings paid 1700 pesos but, she didn't even ask for any tip the following morning.

Oh guys, I was wondering, my last visit to Cebu was back in Oct 2009. What are the chances of seeing the same girls at the gogo bars?

Red Kilt
05-14-10, 01:58
Was back down in Jonquera this evening with another ISG member. It is always wise to be careful wherever you are and I mean no disrespect to Red Kilt and his cautionary post, but you are as safe in Jonquera as you are in any other part of Cebu.

That's cool Mort. I wasn't doubting anything that you said before because you have obviously "got game" and it gives you a kick. All I was doing was giving a different perspective (mine) about the scene there in case there were a few people reading this site who thought it just might be easy. For me, it's not.

I would, however, want to take a contrary side in a debate with you about your comment that "you are as safe in Jonquera as you are in any other part of Cebu", but I'd rather do it over a cold SMB.
Keep posting your experiences. Enjoyable in a vicarious way.

Stroker Ace88
05-14-10, 03:34
I guess if that really did happen then we alI am wondering whether this is one of those urban myths spread about in good faith by poorly educated Pinays. Or maybe there was some substance in the rumour that has grown and got out of hand as it was passed down from person to person.

Mortman,

I have heard the same warnings last week from several girls about how some places on Mango Avenue are no longer safe because of needle attacks. I googled this subject just to see if there was a news story reported somewhere but no dice. I am not sure if this story is fact or fiction but in the PI these kinds of stories are often taken as fact as they pass from one person to the next with very little thought to the source of the story.

Johnred
05-14-10, 03:55
I spent a few days with a great girl from Vikings. She claimed that I was only her second barfine in a year. She usually just works for LD's. Anyway, she assured me that she gets 1,000 from the 1,700 bar fine. I tipped her 200 each day. Probably not enough but she kept coming back for more.

Stroker Ace88
05-14-10, 04:16
That's funny. I was at Bo's a few weeks ago staying upstairs in MidTown (for a change- usually I am at Eddies) and some of those old expat guys sit there for 5 or 6 hours. Bo's (or at least the lobby in Robinsons) is a good place to meet DIA girls because they all know it. I usually get away from Bo's (as you did) as soon as I can though.

Well whenever I go into Robinson's Fuente, I always get a good laugh at alot of the imported guys who would pass no problem for unemployed welfare cases back on the other side of the pond. I know that some might be retired, but are they retired from shaving and is the 100P too much to get someone to wash their clothes? Some of the guys in there look like they don't have two Pisos to rub together and while I can tell from looking at them that they saved all there retirement money and clipped a thousand coupons for a whole year to be able to spend three weeks in the PI knee deep in brown spinners. Sad to say that alot of the local women think they are millionaires because of where they come from, but the only truth to them is the air part, not the million.

I often see the same guys sitting at Bo's coffee at 11am when I go up to the third floor to get a load for my phone, then again at 5pm when my GF and I would come back to get some chicken at Mang Inasal on the first floor. So guys, please, for me, wash your clothes and whatever you do try hard to shave and spend the 80P to get your hair cut because some of you guys look like Tom Hanks in Castaway, before he was rescued.

I am not saying all the guys in there look messed up, but alot do, so please leave the Ho-Bo's look to the girls who frequent those tables. ;)

Gogobarlover
05-14-10, 04:19
Hmm... what did the girls in Cebu say about these needle attacks? Are foreigners the main victims on the attacks? Or, anyone in general is a victim of a needle attack? This is making me a bit worried now as we like to go to gogo bars on Mango Avenue.

Member #4351
05-14-10, 04:22
I was with Mortman last night. The girls in Viking said it was 1700 plus tip with a total of around 3000. A couple told us the same thing. Maybe because we had innocent gringo faces..who knows?

I had been to Blue Angels previously and this time it was much better. There were about 6 chicas who were easily worth taking out..IMHO. The ambience of the bar is nice and the mamasan was helpful without being pushy.

Key Master
05-14-10, 05:56
I was with Mortman last night. The girls in Viking said it was 1700 plus tip with a total of around 3000. A couple told us the same thing. Maybe because we had innocent gringo faces..who knows?

I had been to Blue Angels previously and this time it was much better. There were about 6 chicas who were easily worth taking out..IMHO. The ambience of the bar is nice and the mamasan was helpful without being pushy. She introduced me to a nice girl named Danielle, new there and originally a cashier. Cute and worthwhile.

Not sure if things have really changed or they marked you guys for some reason. I think they may be trying to ensure it's not just a 1000 from the barfine from you guys and that you'll be tipping them in the morning to go with you. That 1000 of 1700 is somewhat typical of a few bars there as mentioned earlier, I believe Hot Rods is or was the same. Vikings gets a lot of play, so maybe the women were making sure they were going to get there's if they were to go and that's the company line in there. I've been there before and talked to one a ways back and she asked about if staying to the morning if there was something more in it for her in regards to tip.

Wicked Roger
05-14-10, 08:20
I guess if that really did happen then we all know that any resulting death from such an attack, (HIV, Hepatitus, STD,) would in all case take years to come around. I am wondering whether this is one of those urban myths spread about in good faith by poorly educated Pinays. Or maybe there was some substance in the rumour that has grown and got out of hand as it was passed down from person to person.
Agreed M

I just pass on what I hear, and am sure this is the same story from a while back...certainly if anyone had been needled and was in a critical condiiton it would be reported somewhere, more so if an expat/tourist get the needle...

However, it has had the effect on some and my friends steer clear of area for now so whoever started it (a competitor etc) is is having some impact

The Rooster1
05-14-10, 11:30
Mortman,

I have heard the same warnings last week from several girls about how some places on Mango Avenue are no longer safe because of needle attacks. I googled this subject just to see if there was a news story reported somewhere but no dice. I am not sure if this story is fact or fiction but in the PI these kinds of stories are often taken as fact as they pass from one person to the next with very little thought to the source of the story.

Hey Stroker,

Can I ask where these several girls are from?? Just want to have the facts. Thanks....

Stroker Ace88
05-14-10, 18:00
Hey Stroker,

Can I ask where these several girls are from?? Just want to have the facts. Thanks....

Rooster,

One is my steady GF that lives in Cebu City. She was told by her aunt to tell me to stay away from Mango because she heard about needle attacks.

The other girl is a FH contact I made some time ago, she lives in Lapu2. Once she heard I was headed back to Cebu she told me the same thing, to stay away from Mango.

Two different sources told me the same thing. I have no idea if the info is true or not, and it will not keep me away from the area. I like my Yellow Cab pizza too much.

Where did you think they were from? Kansas? ;)

Mayntain
05-14-10, 23:50
Well whenever I go into Robinson's Fuente, I always get a good laugh at alot of the imported guys who would pass no problem for unemployed welfare cases back on the other side of the pond. I know that some might be retired, but are they retired from shaving and is the 100P too much to get someone to wash their clothes? Some of the guys in there look like they don't have two Pisos to rub together and while I can tell from looking at them that they saved all there retirement money and clipped a thousand coupons for a whole year to be able to spend three weeks in the PI knee deep in brown spinners. Sad to say that alot of the local women think they are millionaires because of where they come from, but the only truth to them is the air part, not the million.

I often see the same guys sitting at Bo's coffee at 11am when I go up to the third floor to get a load for my phone, then again at 5pm when my GF and I would come back to get some chicken at Mang Inasal on the first floor. So guys, please, for me, wash your clothes and whatever you do try hard to shave and spend the 80P to get your hair cut because some of you guys look like Tom Hanks in Castaway, before he was rescued.

I am not saying all the guys in there look messed up, but alot do, so please leave the Ho-Bo's look to the girls who frequent those tables. ;)
I get a good chuckle myself out of these beach bum dressing guys. They dont give -a-damn people are laughing at them. Sad indeed.

Brymor
05-15-10, 00:01
Thanks for the always great FR Mort! Can you or anyone else on the ground tell me if Juliana is still closed?

It is still closed was down there last night. No one seems to have any clear idea when it will reopen.

Paid a very late visit back down to Jonquera last night at 1.30am, most of the good girls had already been taken with perhaps only one or two that I would have considered.

Colon street was very busy that time of night, plenty of SWs to be had if that is your thing. Took a cab out to Reclamation Road and found a number of small groups of SW's. One or two half decent ones but again the cab driver said to go there at around 11pm for the best pickings

Sharka
05-15-10, 00:21
Colon street was very busy that time of night, plenty of SWs to be had if that is your thing.


Hey Mortman,
You are indeed a very brave man to patrol this area at 1:30am. When I use to travel thru here, I was always a bit on edge with senses at full alert even by 11pm.

Shark

Sharka
05-15-10, 00:31
the Casa (Lady House) in Banilad
Price quoted to us was 3000 pesos which after some bargaining went down to 2000. It is my honest opinion you could get a girl here for 1500 if you were prepared to play a game of brinkmanship with the papasan.

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My ISG partner Phantomtiger and I was there and tried all the tactics and being foreigners and trying to get below 2000p was damn near impossible. Being a local or able to speak the native tongue could get you much better results. Besides, the selection at that place was definitely overrated for the price, so not a total lost walking away emptyhanded.

Shark

Sharka
05-15-10, 00:44
Jonquera.
I have been there twice now. Once was about 3 years ago with a hard-core expat monger who has lived in Cebu for 15 years. He just drove me in one night in his car for me to take a look, and I never got out of the car but was still freaked out by the scene. I could almost see the STDs jumping off most of the girls, and I urged him to drive out of the place as fast as he could.
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I think this is bit overcaution as for those of us that have frequent this place will tell you that it is all a front.
Yes, the location is not the greatest (I believe the words cesspool and sleazy were used), but it is because of the poor location and cheap property that has kept prices down here. Think about this a min., if this same place was now in a more upscale area, say next to a beautiful shopping mall then expect prices here to jump 5-10x.
Don't let the slumdog look of this place fool you, it is indeed a safe haven as this place is protected by the mob and perhaps the cops on the take to remain open and trouble free.
Now, the area surrounding this location is a whole different matter. So, yes, you could be mugged walking/getting here but unlikely once you are actually here.

Shark

Gogobarlover
05-15-10, 00:53
It is still closed was down there last night. No one seems to have any clear idea when it will reopen.

Why is Julianas closed?

SergeantRay
05-15-10, 01:49
Well whenever I go into Robinson's Fuente, I always get a good laugh at alot of the imported guys who would pass no problem for unemployed welfare cases back on the other side of the pond. I know that some might be retired, but are they retired from shaving and is the 100P too much to get someone to wash their clothes? Some of the guys in there look like they don't have two Pisos to rub together and while I can tell from looking at them that they saved all there retirement money and clipped a thousand coupons for a whole year to be able to spend three weeks in the PI knee deep in brown spinners. Sad to say that alot of the local women think they are millionaires because of where they come from, but the only truth to them is the air part, not the million.

I often see the same guys sitting at Bo's coffee at 11am when I go up to the third floor to get a load for my phone, then again at 5pm when my GF and I would come back to get some chicken at Mang Inasal on the first floor. So guys, please, for me, wash your clothes and whatever you do try hard to shave and spend the 80P to get your hair cut because some of you guys look like Tom Hanks in Castaway, before he was rescued.

I am not saying all the guys in there look messed up, but alot do, so please leave the Ho-Bo's look to the girls who frequent those tables. ;)

It is so easy to look decent. Get some slacks. Wear a shirt with a collar. Go short hair and clean shaven --if you go long hair and/or beard, then hygiene is even more critical.

Take it up a notch --ditch the sandals and tennis shoes. Get some loafers, which are dressier yet still comfortable.

It's insane to travel so far, to be surrounded by tasty treats, and blow it because you can't be bothered to shower, shave, and get dressed.

Spam Hog
05-15-10, 05:19
It is so easy to look decent. Get some slacks. Wear a shirt with a collar. Go short hair and clean shaven --if you go long hair and/or beard, then hygiene is even more critical.

Take it up a notch --ditch the sandals and tennis shoes. Get some loafers, which are dressier yet still comfortable.

It's insane to travel so far, to be surrounded by tasty treats, and blow it because you can't be bothered to shower, shave, and get dressed.



Sound advice, always try to look like you are prosperous if not wealthy(myam man) if you are out trolling in the Mall or whatever it is a good idea to wear a nice, collared shirt or new cargo pants if not slacks. Go with a nice watch or even a small neckchain of gold or silver, nobody is gionna mug you unless you are passed out drunk on Colon street at 2 am.

Filipino's have a dim view of some sloppy dressed cretin with wild hair and body odor like a gym sock.

Show a little class and you'd be suprised at the treatment you will receive.


spam hog

The Rooster1
05-15-10, 07:38
Sound advice, always try to look like you are prosperous if not wealthy(myam man) if you are out trolling in the Mall or whatever it is a good idea to wear a nice, collared shirt or new cargo pants if not slacks. Go with a nice watch or even a small neckchain of gold or silver, nobody is gionna mug you unless you are passed out drunk on Colon street at 2 am.

Filipino's have a dim view of some sloppy dressed cretin with wild hair and body odor like a gym sock.

Show a little class and you'd be suprised at the treatment you will receive.


spam hog

I have to dissagree. Why would you where long pants and a collared shirt trolling the malls and in this heat???? Shorts, flip flops and a clean t-shirt is all you need to score whatever you want. And that means all classes of girls... Even a beat up ball cap(your favorite) is fine. They don't care. The one thing I do agree is they do mind about facial hair. So shaven and a haircut goes along ways... Thats how I roll in ALL places in asia. Unless I know I'm going to a club where they have a dress code..

Peace out!

The Rooster1
05-15-10, 07:45
Rooster,

One is my steady GF that lives in Cebu City. She was told by her aunt to tell me to stay away from Mango because she heard about needle attacks.

The other girl is a FH contact I made some time ago, she lives in Lapu2. Once she heard I was headed back to Cebu she told me the same thing, to stay away from Mango.

Two different sources told me the same thing. I have no idea if the info is true or not, and it will not keep me away from the area. I like my Yellow Cab pizza too much.

Where did you think they were from? Kansas? ;)

No, I thought in the hills of Kentucky... Good info and thanks. That will never scare me out of that area, just wanted to know for future reference. Maybe I will only drink 12 beers and walk around rather than 18 beers and stumble around....

Groovyguy
05-15-10, 08:18
I'm wondering if anyone knows of any short term hotels that are very discrete. When I get there in June I will have times when I need to be very discrete and am looking for a place that may even have private entrances. I don't want to have to walk past a front desk. I need privacy. Anyone know of any good places for this?

Toronto
05-15-10, 14:38
I have to dissagree. Why would you where long pants and a collared shirt trolling the malls and in this heat???? Shorts, flip flops and a clean t-shirt is all you need to score whatever you want. And that means all classes of girls... Even a beat up ball cap(your favorite) is fine. They don't care. The one thing I do agree is they do mind about facial hair. So shaven and a haircut goes along ways... Thats how I roll in ALL places in asia. Unless I know I'm going to a club where they have a dress code..

Peace out!

I agree, been to the PI only once but had no issues at the malls in Manila wearing shorts and polo/golf type shirts. I don't see why I would wear slacks and dress shirts in the heat on vacation.

Spam Hog
05-15-10, 23:28
I have to dissagree. Why would you where long pants and a collared shirt trolling the malls and in this heat???? Shorts, flip flops and a clean t-shirt is all you need to score whatever you want. And that means all classes of girls... Even a beat up ball cap(your favorite) is fine. They don't care. The one thing I do agree is they do mind about facial hair. So shaven and a haircut goes along ways... Thats how I roll in ALL places in asia. Unless I know I'm going to a club where they have a dress code..

Peace out!



I'm sure one could probably score wearing a loin cloth and carrying a spear, however, it is not very becoming. You should hear the comments that the girls make to each other when they see a sloppily dressed foreigner, some guy with a sleevless T shirt, old shorts and especially flip flops.

Dressing oh so casually limits you to a sort of class of girl, those desperate enought to do anything with anyone. Show a bit of class and you will attract a bit of class which is what mall trolling is all about.

Don't forget, the malls are air conditioned.....


Spamhog

Puerto La Cruz
05-16-10, 01:11
And what about the rest of us that dress tastefully, pressed polo shirt, nice shorts, good baseball hat and flip flops during the day? We gotta adhere to a daytime dress code there? Nope. I don't think so. I have my girls set up already and they know me from day to evening clothes. A well dressed guy in shorts, etc., showered, shaved and smells well can do very well during the day.

Maybe you are talking about slobs and I see plenty of them there. Seen their sorry butts all over the world. Nice to see you posting again.

PolyOrchid
05-16-10, 03:05
I'm wondering if anyone knows of any short term hotels that are very discrete. When I get there in June I will have times when I need to be very discrete and am looking for a place that may even have private entrances. I don't want to have to walk past a front desk. I need privacy. Anyone know of any good places for this?Groovy, You'll find these 'cockpits' in all PI cities.

Just tell a cabbie what you are looking for and he'll drive you right in, no worries about being seen.

Stroker Ace88
05-16-10, 05:29
I'm wondering if anyone knows of any short term hotels that are very discrete. When I get there in June I will have times when I need to be very discrete and am looking for a place that may even have private entrances. I don't want to have to walk past a front desk. I need privacy. Anyone know of any good places for this?

GG,

Well, I don't know of any hotel outside of Japan where you can just walk in, insert your credit card and rent a room without having contact with a person. You will always have to present yourself to the front desk for check-in and get your payment and preference details settled. Forget about private entrances, as your main concern in the PI should always be security, and having to walk past the security guard should be the least of your worries. They have seen it all before anyways.

I do not know your standards or budget, or even what part of Cebu City you are looking for a room, but one of the most discrete hotels in the downtown core that might suit your needs is the Gran Prix Econtel located on the corner of Mango Avenue (Maxillom Avenue on most maps) and F. Ramos Street. This hotel can be hard to spot and is located on the upper levels of the building. Look for the red hotel sign on the second floor. This hotel is basic but clean and be aware that some of the rooms do not have windows. You can book this hotel online for just under 1000P per night, which is around $20-$25 US-Can. A good price for the location.

Book this hotel online and then print out the confirmation from your email and take it with you to check in. If you really do not want the front desk staff to give you and your "date" the look when you are checking in, check in first get your room key then go get your date and return later.

I usually stay on Fuente Osmena at the Crown Regency when I am with my steady GF, but since the front desk staff and the guards all know me there I booked a second hotel room for a few days at the Gran Prix for some afternoon fun with another girl I met online.

If you use the search button on top of this page and search for "Sogo" there are a few posts awhile back about this short time hotel. I have never stayed so I can't comment.