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Irony Monger
07-16-10, 02:34
Also, if anybody has any ideas about how one might be 'gainfully occupied' whilst living in the Phils I would be very interested, because suddenly giving up work completely after many years might come as a bit of a shock to my system! Plus this would have the added benefit of supplementing my overseas income and preserving my savings. (By the way I work in IT in my country.)
If you work in IT, try getting some part time work that allows you to telecommute. For example, there are many ISPs all over the world that need qualified system administrators, and do not require you to be physically near the servers you manage. You can work from PI, manage servers in Australia, get paid in your US bank account (or wherever you live). And that's only one example. You have a lot of options as long as you have power and internet access.
If you work in IT, try getting some part time work that allows you to telecommute. For example, there are many ISPs all over the world that need qualified system administrators, and do not require you to be physically near the servers you manage. You can work from PI, manage servers in Australia, get paid in your US bank account (or wherever you live). And that's only one example. You have a lot of options as long as you have power and internet access.
Just be careful that you have the right visa, as you are not supposed to work on a tourist visa.
The local authorities won't know about it but there will be some jealous people who will report you especially if you step out of line in their eyes (like start to pull good-looking girls in your house or [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) off a local in some small way).
If you get caught working without a visa they will kick you out of the country very quickly and you will lose any investments you have made in stock, equipment etc.
This has happened to a couple of Koreans in my condo in recent months, and I understand the new government has plans to go after illegal aliens working here illegally.
Just be careful that you have the right visa, as you are not supposed to work on a tourist visa.
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Just further to my last post. Note the following taken from the US Embassy website for the Philippines.
"Non-Resident Aliens Who Intend to Work in the Philippines
All foreign nationals seeking admission to the Philippines for the purpose of employment, all non-resident foreign nationals already working in the Philippines, and all non-resident foreign nationals admitted to the Philippines on non-working visas, who wish to work in the Philippines, regardless of the source of compensation and duration of employment are required by the Philippine Department of Labor and Employment (DOLE) to secure an Alien Employment Permit (AEP) ..............
Penalties
Aliens who are found working without an employment permit as required by law, are penalized with a fine ranging from one thousand pesos (P1,000.00) to ten thousand pesos (P10,000), or imprisonment ranging from three months to three years, or both. In addition to such penalties, any alien found guilty shall be summarily deported upon completion of service of sentence.
Liza's in the 'manpark' area of Mandaue enjoyed their 10th anniversary party. Roast pig, pig blood extraveganza, turkey, fish, etc... EWR is 1500. This is the place that is tricky to get to, but worth the effort.
Pussycats formerly known as Stars and even before that known as Exotic has transformed as others have noted earlier. If you remember the old place and layout, you can't help notice how the circle stage was cut right in half. I'll never forget sitting opposite of some bloke who was getting serviced at his seat. About alls I could see was his smiling face and her head bobbing up and down. I probably wouldn't have even noticed if the gal sitting next to me hadn't told me.
Temptation seems to be the bar of choice for the koreans now. They even did a few of their stupid lineups right there in the bar. Four guys...lined up at least twenty gals....some girls fidget, some try to fade into the background, but most seem eager to be selected. In the end, no one was chosen. Duh.
Silver Dollar has no A/c, still trying to pull it together after their fire. The place they opened up near Stripes bar has apparently closed. I nominate Stripes as the place that most deserves to close / burn / whatever. Bad vibes.
I still haven't had time to see if the St. Moritz bar is still going. Hope so.
X Man
The Rooster1
07-16-10, 23:59
I'm Chinese-American planning to visit Cebu later this year. Do you find many Asian foreigners are also malling? Would you recommend a different approach for Asian guys at Ayala Mall?
I ask this because, for Filipinas looking for a potential overseas husband, many of them think of middle aged to older white dudes.
I know there are lots of Korean dudes in Cebu. I'm not sure if they're exclusively hitting the clubs or if they're also at the malls.
No worries Furry Friend. I have seen everything under the sun. I have a korean friend that does extremely well, and he doesnt even like filipina's. Big smiles and just say hi is all I can say. And from the other members commenting, absolutely you can't look desperate. When I'm at the mall I really don't give a shit if I pick one up as my phone is smoking already. Thats one key. And the big hint is, just say hi to someone even if it's to ask where the pharmacy is, you will be suprised. And if you want easy, walk towards Marriott during the evening time and you will get hit on. I dont care who you are!!!!!!!!!!
The Rooster1
07-17-10, 00:00
One can live quite well in the Phils for 2000 USD a month, it all depends on your life style. Your largest expense is gonna be for rent, you can rent houses or apts from anywhere from P10,000 to P30,000 a month that are FIT FOR A FOREIGNER. Yeah you can go cheaper if you want a real dump in a lousy neighborhood but that is UNWISE.
Second is likely gonna be for food, lets face it, we miss our real bread, our campbells soup, our imported swiss cold cuts for lunch and those things cost money.
I usually pay P2,000 for month, run my AC only at night, TV and Computer during the day and microwave the hell outta my food. Cable TV is P675 a month, skybroad band is P1,000 a month, I have a phone but you don't need that, cell is better.
Figure on the top end, P1,000 a month for food, rent, utils and cell phone costs. The rest is gratus for the ladies, beer, whatever. And you can party your butt off on P1,000 a month.
If you decide to settle in CEBU be careful where you set up at, there are SOOOO many subdivisions with water shortages IN TOWN, I moved outside the city where there are less probs. But I support a wife and family on less than 2 g's US a month (no rent).
If you want more you can PM me.
The Spam Hog
Excellent info from Spam Hog...
Cebu is all about the people. Before I arrived a month ago I had done endless reading about the Philippines and the people somehow intrigued me. Sure enough ~ they are amazing in their warmth, genuine nature, sweetness, gentleness, kindness, desire to have fun, warmth and attractiveness.
Sure, the poverty sucks and it does sometimes make the dynamics between a foreigner and a local kinda tricky, but for the most part people here treat you as you treat them. I've found the people are generally very conservative, and this is a BIG point. You will see some Pinay in high heels but you'll almost never see girls walking around with cleavage hanging out. They are modest, family oriented, shy, often times innocent and soft-spoken.
When we sit at home in front of our computers and read these stories of all the wild sexual encounters that happen here in the Philippines, we get lost in the fantasy of it. I expected to encounter girls everywhere that were all about sex, but I was way off on this. Sure, if you go to Angeles City you're going to encounter that, but Angeles City is not at all typical of this amazing country. Sure, you can go to Mango Square in Cebu and have some wild encounters, but that is a very small section of this city. Yes, there is Junquera. Yes, there are street walkers. It's true, you can find this stuff, but it is not that pronounced.
People here ARE CONSERVATIVE! The average girl is truly sweet, wants to work to help her family, believes in true love, is tired of Pinoy playboys and wants to be loved for who she is.
In the Philippines ito is VERY common for a wife to accept that her husband has a mistress (or 3). The men here have such an endless bounty of poor girls to choose from that it's easy to have a lover in a different city and their wives usually just accept it.
Yes, you will see a 50 year old man walking through the mall with a 15 year old girl cuddling up to him. The first time I saw it my eyes popped out! It's the sugar daddy thing and it's very much alive here in Cebu. The weird thing is, the two will not seem to hide it while in public. Apparently he buys her stuff and she takes care of him when they get back to his place. To me this is a recipe for disaster, but my point is, this culture tends to just roll their eyes and look the other way. With the ENDLESS stream of 18 - 21 year old available super hotties here, why would anyone chance something like this?!?!
Are they actually LBFM's? Hell yeah! They do love to have sex, there's no question about it, but they also want to be treated with kindness and respect. It really is about love for the average Filipina. Again, treat them with kindness, appreciation and respect and you will be rewarded.
If you come to Cebu and spend your time at the strip joints then yes, you'll be surrounded by the typical Filipina bar girl who will behave just like you've read online.., but there aren't many of those in Cebu. I've been staying at the amazing Parklane Hotel (got a great deal of $60 per night) and have been hanging out at Ayala Mall. Because of this I've been able to see how the people here truly are, and it's been wonderful. "Hello sir", "Good morning Sir", "Thank you sir" ~ it's all about excellent service, kindness and respect.
The average worker at Ayala Mall makes about 500 pesos a week (currently about $10.80 USD). They work hard, don't complain, smile, have fun and are appreciative about having their job. They are clean, stylish, sexy and often times innocent. I love the girls here ~ they are simply delicious and they are everywhere.
When you walk through Ayala you are totally blown away with the endless parade of young, beautiful girls, many of which would be happy to meet a nice foreigner. And it's true, say hello in a kind and genuine manner and, unless she's got a boyfriend, you'll soon have her number.
Also, there are the professional mall girls who cruise for foreigners. You will be walking along and suddenly they will be walking next to you saying hello. They will ask you where you're going and then ask if they can come with you. They are usually in pairs. I haven't indulged in them so I can't say what happens once you're back to your place, but I'm sure it's exactly as we would think. For me, I'm more into the regular girls who are likely to be completely clean, sweet and who will be seeing you as an actual boyfriend. It's just so incredible to have a 5' tall, 100 pound, beautiful girl looking up at you smiling shyly and who is AMAZED she is with you. Cebuano girls are my favorite in the world.
Rubio Tonto
07-17-10, 10:38
Well said.
Stroker Ace88
07-17-10, 16:57
i've found the people are generally very conservative, and this is a big point. you will see some pinay in high heels but you'll almost never see girls walking around with cleavage hanging out. they are modest, family oriented, shy, often times innocent and soft-spoken.
that is why most of the connecting is done on cp instead of face-face with the average girl in the pi. sure you can walk up to her, talk to her some but she will behave shy and not talk alot. slip her your cp# then let the games begin. some girls will not want to be seen with an imported guys for fear of being labeled as a gro, and they do the "interview" by txt message.
people here are conservative! the average girl is truly sweet, wants to work to help her family, believes in true love, is tired of pinoy playboys and wants to be loved for who she is.
i have found just in the past year that it is getting harder and harder in cebu to meet girls and have them just be happy they are in the company of a foreign guy. it used to be most girls would agree to almost anything you wanted on the first meeting, now they have all heard the stories of imported guys coming to cebu for sex and leaving the girl after. the girls today do a much more detailed interview process, and it is getting harder to gain access to the average girls pants on the first date. i am not saying it can't be done, it is just geting harder.
in the philippines ito is very common for a wife to accept that her husband has a mistress (or 3). the men here have such an endless bounty of poor girls to choose from that it's easy to have a lover in a different city and their wives usually just accept it.
yes and no. they accept because the culture does not approve of divorse, so as long as the husband has his other woman far enough away from the wife, and she does not have to deal with the other woman coming into her life they usually give in, but not before a whole lot of tampo, and a whole lot of maldita.
yes, you will see a 50 year old man walking through the mall with a 15 year old girl cuddling up to him. the first time i saw it my eyes popped out! it's the sugar daddy thing and it's very much alive here in cebu. the weird thing is, the two will not seem to hide it while in public. apparently he buys her stuff and she takes care of him when they get back to his place. to me this is a recipe for disaster, but my point is, this culture tends to just roll their eyes and look the other way. with the endless stream of 18 - 21 year old available super hotties here, why would anyone chance something like this?!?!
are you positive she was 15? if a foreigner aged 50 is with an **** girl of 15 in public then everyone will let him know that it is not acceptable. i know alot of 16yrs and 17yrs old can be found on the dating websites listed as 18, but most will come clean about the age when asked. when i first went to the pi i had a very hard time telling a girls age. i would think a girl was 22 when she was 17, and vice-versa, i would think a girl was 16 when she was 20. the skill takes time in the pi to be able to pick out the small differences in the ages. the best way to speed up this ability is to look at a random girl and guess her age, then ask your date how old she thinks the girl is. in the begining you will be way off what your gf thinks is the age of the girl. the more times you ask the better you get at guessing the age correctly. i seriously doubt a 50yr old was walking romantically with a 15yr old unless she was his daughter, or unless someone was setting him up for a big scam payoff.
are they actually lbfm's? hell yeah! they do love to have sex, there's no question about it, but they also want to be treated with kindness and respect. it really is about love for the average filipina. again, treat them with kindness, appreciation and respect and you will be rewarded.
very well said.
the average worker at ayala mall makes about 500 pesos a week (currently about $10.80 usd). they work hard, don't complain, smile, have fun and are appreciative about having their job. they are clean, stylish, sexy and often times innocent. i love the girls here ~ they are simply delicious and they are everywhere.
the last time i asked the minimum wage allowed is 267p per day. that is for a full days work, and is supposed to be the base. so someone working on a service crew at jollibee makes 1602p per 6 day work week, or roughly $35us.
Excellent post groovy guy.
You are just a bit out on the average wage.
The Rooster1
07-17-10, 22:47
If you come to Cebu and spend your time at the strip joints then yes, you'll be surrounded by the typical Filipina bar girl who will behave just like you've read online.., but there aren't many of those in Cebu. I've been staying at the amazing Parklane Hotel (got a great deal of $60 per night) and have been hanging out at Ayala Mall. Because of this I've been able to see how the people here truly are, and it's been wonderful. "Hello sir", "Good morning Sir", "Thank you sir" ~ it's all about excellent service, kindness and respect.
Great report... Next trip try hitting the province and you will be amazed at how you are treated. Best girls/people in the world......
GregLondon
07-18-10, 00:35
cebu is all about the people. before i arrived a month ago i had done endless reading about the philippines and the people somehow intrigued me. sure enough ~ they are amazing in their warmth, genuine nature, sweetness, gentleness, kindness, desire to have fun, warmth and attractiveness.
sure, the poverty sucks and it does sometimes make the dynamics between a foreigner and a local kinda tricky, but for the most part people here treat you as you treat them. i've found the people are generally very conservative, and this is a big point. you will see some pinay in high heels but you'll almost never see girls walking around with cleavage hanging out. they are modest, family oriented, shy, often times innocent and soft-spoken.
when we sit at home in front of our computers and read these stories of all the wild sexual encounters that happen here in the philippines, we get lost in the fantasy of it. i expected to encounter girls everywhere that were all about sex, but i was way off on this. sure, if you go to angeles city you're going to encounter that, but angeles city is not at all typical of this amazing country. sure, you can go to mango square in cebu and have some wild encounters, but that is a very small section of this city. yes, there is junquera. yes, there are street walkers. it's true, you can find this stuff, but it is not that pronounced.
people here are conservative! the average girl is truly sweet, wants to work to help her family, believes in true love, is tired of pinoy playboys and wants to be loved for who she is.
in the philippines ito is very common for a wife to accept that her husband has a mistress (or 3). the men here have such an endless bounty of poor girls to choose from that it's easy to have a lover in a different city and their wives usually just accept it.
yes, you will see a 50 year old man walking through the mall with a 15 year old girl cuddling up to him. the first time i saw it my eyes popped out! it's the sugar daddy thing and it's very much alive here in cebu. the weird thing is, the two will not seem to hide it while in public. apparently he buys her stuff and she takes care of him when they get back to his place. to me this is a recipe for disaster, but my point is, this culture tends to just roll their eyes and look the other way. with the endless stream of 18 - 21 year old available super hotties here, why would anyone chance something like this?!?!
are they actually lbfm's? hell yeah! they do love to have sex, there's no question about it, but they also want to be treated with kindness and respect. it really is about love for the average filipina. again, treat them with kindness, appreciation and respect and you will be rewarded.
if you come to cebu and spend your time at the strip joints then yes, you'll be surrounded by the typical filipina bar girl who will behave just like you've read online.., but there aren't many of those in cebu. i've been staying at the amazing parklane hotel (got a great deal of $60 per night) and have been hanging out at ayala mall. because of this i've been able to see how the people here truly are, and it's been wonderful. "hello sir", "good morning sir", "thank you sir" ~ it's all about excellent service, kindness and respect.
the average worker at ayala mall makes about 500 pesos a week (currently about $10.80 usd). they work hard, don't complain, smile, have fun and are appreciative about having their job. they are clean, stylish, sexy and often times innocent. i love the girls here ~ they are simply delicious and they are everywhere.
when you walk through ayala you are totally blown away with the endless parade of young, beautiful girls, many of which would be happy to meet a nice foreigner. and it's true, say hello in a kind and genuine manner and, unless she's got a boyfriend, you'll soon have her number.
also, there are the professional mall girls who cruise for foreigners. you will be walking along and suddenly they will be walking next to you saying hello. they will ask you where you're going and then ask if they can come with you. they are usually in pairs. i haven't indulged in them so i can't say what happens once you're back to your place, but i'm sure it's exactly as we would think. for me, i'm more into the regular girls who are likely to be completely clean, sweet and who will be seeing you as an actual boyfriend. it's just so incredible to have a 5' tall, 100 pound, beautiful girl looking up at you smiling shyly and who is amazed she is with you. cebuano girls are my favorite in the world.
as many of the regular members are rather jaded its nice to hear the impressions of someone still with fresh eyes.
a few comments though.
1 i cont think cebuanas are by and large conservative though many will pretend to be in public.
2 the min wage is around p250 per hour in cebu. the typical shop girl in ayala will take hoime 4000-6000p per month. you may have spoken to people who work part time, or just wanted a sympathy.
3 hanging around ayala and thinking you have got a taste of real life /real people in cebu is rather like spending your time in harrods or saks 5th av and thinking you have seen the real london/ny.
4 i agree with previous poster, many newbie westerners see an older guy with a young girl and assume she is 15 or something. unless there is an innocent explanation such as father etc, its very unlikely to be an **** gf being paraded around ayala.
the main reason for that is not so much the horror of the local population, remember the rules for locals are much younger, its only paid for sex that must be over 18, but if a westerner is involved the presumption will be that payments were involved. but the fact that setting western guys up with **** girls and extorting large amounts of money from them is a major business for the police and other scammers.
Altered Ego
07-18-10, 01:23
Many thanks to Spam Hog, Irony Monger and Red Kilt for all your replies. It's people like you who make this Board such a fine source of information and opinion.
I really need to investigate the practicalities of working remotely, it sounds like a great idea.
If anybody else has any thoughts on how to supplement your income while living in Cebu I would be extremely interested.
If you work in IT, try getting some part time work that allows you to telecommute. For example, there are many ISPs all over the world that need qualified system administrators, and do not require you to be physically near the servers you manage. You can work from PI, manage servers in Australia, get paid in your US bank account (or wherever you live). And that's only one example. You have a lot of options as long as you have power and internet access.
GoodEnough
07-18-10, 04:38
Actually, the minimum wage in Cebu is about Php200 a day. The highest minimum wage is in Manila, which is about Php250 a day.
GregLondon
07-18-10, 05:26
Actually, the minimum wage in Cebu is about Php200 a day. The highest minimum wage is in Manila, which is about Php250 a day.
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
But in practice many employers outside the larger more formal organisations find ways to pay less.
Tally Wacker
07-18-10, 05:31
In Angeles the owner of LGH told me he pays minimum wage of 320P
A girl I met that works at a little German owned hotel off of fields that gets paid 190P
Either way they all get paid shit and are always looking for additional ways to supliment their income out of necesity
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
But in practice many employers outside the larger more formal organisations find ways to pay less.
This is a bit unrelated to minimum wage, but kind of shocking.
I understand the bar girls in the Erik group do no allow days off, and fine the girls when they do take a day off. And the real kicker is that with a doctor's note the girl is fined only 400. So, 1700 fine for an absense if she was barfined the night before. 700 otherwise. 400 with a doctor's note.
That is just wrong anyway you look at it. X Man
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
But in practice many employers outside the larger more formal organisations find ways to pay less.
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
... No offense, you insist it's per hour for the second time, but I'm sure it's just a small oversight, even your own quoted source is for a "daily" number. P267 per hour would translate to about P50,000 per month, I'm sure the whole country would rejoice at that minimum wage!
Wicked Roger
07-18-10, 06:51
Cebu is all about the people.
but for the most part people here treat you as you treat them.
In the Philippines ito is VERY common for a wife to accept that her husband has a mistress (or 3).
With the ENDLESS stream of 18 - 21 year old available super hotties here
Are they actually LBFM's? Hell yeah! They do love to have sex, there's no question about it, but they also want to be treated with kindness and respect. Again, treat them with kindness, appreciation and respect and you will be rewarded.
When you walk through Ayala you are totally blown away with the endless parade of young, beautiful girls, many of which would be happy to meet a nice foreigner.
Cebuano girls are my favorite in the world.
Nice FR GG. and I have picked out a few key points from it. Treat them nicely show respect and trust me they will accept your kinky nature and all the naughty things that you want....well they do for me :D
A few small inexpensive pasalubongs go a long way as well (I mean a bag of grocereies for the family.....things like that are more welcome than a watch or cheap phone sometimes)
And I also love Cebuanas :D
Nice FR GG. and I have picked out a few key points from it. Treat them nicely show respect and trust me they will accept your kinky nature and all the naughty things that you want....well they do for me :D
A few small inexpensive pasalubongs go a long way as well (I mean a bag of grocereies for the family.....things like that are more welcome than a watch or cheap phone sometimes)
And I also love Cebuanas :DWhen I was there in April I met a trio of sisters...20, 23, and 25 years old. I took the 20 year old of course. LOL.
They had come in from the province so the other 2 sisters went and stayed overnight with an aunt in Lahug. I had asked how their parents were at home. They said they were fine. I asked if they liked cake and sent back a Red Ribbon (their father's favorite) chocolate cake for their parents. They were so grateful they let me trade the 20 year old in for the 25 year old the next day. Kidding aside, they seemed to appreciate it.
Bopalula
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
But in practice many employers outside the larger more formal organisations find ways to pay less.Some are asked to start work a half hour or hour early for free. It's called 'charity work". One of my girls worked in a mall in Manila and she was obliged to do it.
Bopalula
Altered Ego
07-18-10, 12:28
Many thanks to Spam Hog, Irony Monger and Red Kilt for your replies. It's guys like you that make this board such a fine source of information and opinion.
If anybody else has any views about how to make a living (legally) while living in the Philippines I would be very interested.
PS: Apologies if this message appears twice, in slightly different forms. I originally submitted it last night (around 12 hours ago), but it still hasn't appeared on the forum, so I thought I would try again.
As far as employment, there is very little available to a foreigner, since you are in IT I would research some firms in Asia Business park who are looking for a "western" manager, call centers and the like, perhaps some teaching
But don't expect much in salary.
As you can see from my previous post, you could live quite well on about 2K US a month there are those who do it on even less. Like SS pensioners, I know of a few.
Regards
Spam hog
Slackerslacker
07-18-10, 17:35
Actually it seems to be 267P /hour
http://www.nwpc.dole.gov.ph/pages/region_7/cmwr_table_r7.html
But in practice many employers outside the larger more formal organisations find ways to pay less.
The website you link to clearly says "Daily wage".
If Filipinas earned 267P/hour, they wouldn't be fucking for money. They would already be earning over 2000Pesos per day.
Obviously that isn't the case.
GregLondon
07-19-10, 00:55
The website you link to clearly says "Daily wage".
If Filipinas earned 267P/hour, they wouldn't be fucking for money. They would already be earning over 2000Pesos per day.
Obviously that isn't the case.
Yes thanks for correcting that typo.
Yeah I'm not surprised I got the minimum wage thing wrong. Hehe. My gf was telling me about that and when I was making that post, I wasn't sure I had it right. Glad it was cleared up.
As for the girl and the older western guy, I really think I'm right about it. After they walked away I turned to the young guy working the jewelry stand and kinda laughed and asked him how old he thought she was. He said 13, I said 15 and we both just rolled our eyes. Maybe it was a man spending time with the daughter of his wife or gf, hard to say. I tell you though, they were cuddling very closely as they walked off. That being said, locals here are always cuddling! He was definitely 50+ and she was wearing her school uniform. At this point I'm guessing it was innocent.
NOTE: It's way cool I didn't get flamed for some of these things I didn't get right. I think those of us who have been to Cebu want to make sure realities are clear for all people. I've been here a little under a month and I'm already getting sucked into the Cebu pride thing.
Short question and a bit subjective I suppose - is it just too hot to go to Cebu at the end of August?
I have been to Cebu in August a number of times. Temperatures often range anywhere from the low 80sf or around 28c up to highs of 90f or around 32c. People say that August is the rainy season though Cebu does not suffer from a rainy season in the true sense of the word. You do get regular heavy downpours but they tend not to last very long though humidity levels can rise making sometimes both hot and sticky.
Personally for me the hotter the better but if you are planning a beach holiday then August may not be the best time to go, since you will find some of your days cloudy and overcast and the chance of regular heavy showers. If you are going there to experience the malls, bars, clubs and nightlife then August is as good a time to go as any other.
If you love mongering as I do, then Cebu never gets too hot :-)
GregLondon
07-20-10, 00:44
No but its wet
Short question and a bit subjective I suppose - is it just too hot to go to Cebu at the end of August?
Stroker Ace88
07-20-10, 03:07
Short question and a bit subjective I suppose - is it just too hot to go to Cebu at the end of August?
It rained every single day when I was there last August. Sometimes heavy downpours that lasted only a few minutes around noon. or sometimes constant light rain all day. It was very humid and sticky. If you plan on going to the beach or island hopping then August is not the best time to come to Cebu.
Stroker Ace88
07-20-10, 03:23
PS: Apologies if this message appears twice, in slightly different forms. I originally submitted it last night (around 12 hours ago), but it still hasn't appeared on the forum, so I thought I would try again.
Altered Ego,
This is a standard forum rule, and your report did not get lost. You are a regular member of the forum, so when you submit a post it first must be reviewed before it can be posted. This is to ensure new members do not post spam, flame other members or post garbage. Once you reach 25 posts you become a senior member and your reports should appear in seconds after you submit.
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CEBU, Philippines The Cebu City government will look into the legality of spas offering lingam massage as such is not included in the business permits granted to the establishments offering them.
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Liza's in the 'manpark' area of Mandaue enjoyed their 10th anniversary party. Roast pig, pig blood extraveganza, turkey, fish, etc... EWR is 1500. This is the place that is tricky to get to, but worth the effort.
Temptation seems to be the bar of choice for the koreans now. They even did a few of their stupid lineups right there in the bar. Four guys...lined up at least twenty gals....some girls fidget, some try to fade into the background, but most seem eager to be selected. In the end, no one was chosen. Duh.
Thanks for the bar update! Good to see you made it to Liza's! She really knows how to provide a relaxed atmosphere with great music at a reasonable db level, the coldest beer in town and some lovelies to warm your heart! Have not visited since she renovated but I'm sure it is an improvement!
On the other hand, Temptations is not nearly as hospitable but always good for a game of pool and such.
Wicked Roger
07-21-10, 00:35
If you are let me know, as your PM facility is not working yet, as there was a cutie with a white guy at breakfast....today - there were 2 white guys myself excluded (it was early gents so only a few guys there)
If you are let me know, as your PM facility is not working yet, as there was a cutie with a white guy at breakfast. Today. There were 2 white guys myself excluded (it was early gents so only a few guys there)Yep, still here. I was at breakfast at 9:30.
.......
On the other hand, Temptations is not nearly as hospitable but always good for a game of pool and such.
I don't like Temptations or indeed any big open area bars with deep lounge seats spread out all around and with girls dancing in different places on different stages.
I much prefer the smaller more enclosed areas (like Sisters, Vikings, Silver Dollar and even Lone Star). It feels more intimate to me and you get a closer look at the goods.
Wicked Roger
07-22-10, 07:13
Yep, still here. I was at breakfast at 9:30.
Am there also LOL but not that late as my cutie goes to class early leaving me time to play more :D
Was there today later as she had a late start....plus a serious spanking in her uniform ...RK and FF will definitely appreciate my educational tendencies and teaching here...more so as I used a leather strap she asked to bring from my home especially. Always believed in punishment especially when she is 19 an kinky :D
If you want to catch up for beer / coffee let me know ...best wander around at breakfast muttering my handle or your handle :)...am big fat bald bloke cant miss me most of the time. Will be there with schoolie but se not wear the uniform at breakfast..get a few interseting glances when she did before!! Was very happy as most were thinking "dirty old man" and those that know would know I consider that a nice compliment!
FreebieFan
07-22-10, 09:44
Am there also LOL but not that late as my cutie goes to class early leaving me time to play more :D
Was there today later as she had a late start....plus a serious spanking in her uniform ...RK and FF will definitely appreciate my educational tendencies and teaching here...more so as I used a leather strap she asked to bring from my home especially. Always believed in punishment especially when she is 19 an kinky :D
If you want to catch up for beer / coffee let me know ...best wander around at breakfast muttering my handle or your handle :)...am big fat bald bloke cant miss me most of the time. Will be there with schoolie but se not wear the uniform at breakfast..get a few interseting glances when she did before!! Was very happy as most were thinking "dirty old man" and those that know would know I consider that a nice compliment!Ha. You're back! Well I've been busy here in Malaysia and although the school uniforms here are nothing that I would put anyone remotely hot in, have found a store here that sells the "sailor moon" type Japanese anime schoolgirl look.
And having just said goodbye to my 21 year student who came here from Jakarta for a few days fun, she looked quite wonderful with her sailor moon look.
Enjoy Cebu. But then I guess you already have. LOL
Member #4351
07-22-10, 16:12
I will also be in Cebu those dates.
If there is someone in Cebu now or who will be there in August who could pop into a Global office and stick a 500 peso load in my phone so I donīt lose my number, I will be happy to pay you when I am there. I gave 500 pesos plus 100 for her trouble to a girl on my last trip and asked her to do this for me, but my feeling is that the 500 pesos are long gone.
If there is someone in Cebu now or who will be there in August who could pop into a Global office and stick a 500 peso load in my phone so I donīt lose my number, I will be happy to pay you when I am there.
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Stroker Ace88
07-22-10, 18:03
I will also be in Cebu those dates.
If there is someone in Cebu now or who will be there in August who could pop into a Global office and stick a 500 peso load in my phone so I donīt lose my number, I will be happy to pay you when I am there. I gave 500 pesos plus 100 for her trouble to a girl on my last trip and asked her to do this for me, but my feeling is that the 500 pesos are long gone.
David,
I pick up a handful of Globe "Tattoo" 100P prepaid load cards when I am in Cebu. The cards usually have an expiration of one year to use the load, and the load itself lasts for 30 days after activation. I just pull one of the cards out when I am back home, scratch off the hiden load number on the back and send a text to Globe Philippines. Works great to keep a number active, and at 100P per month you can't beat the price.
Member #4351
07-22-10, 18:31
Mattrick, I know about that service. It wonīt work with my Peruvian Visa card.
Stroker, good idea! Iīll pick some up in October.
Mattrick, I know about that service. It wonīt work with my Peruvian Visa card.
There are a few others that except PayPal.
Member #4351
07-22-10, 23:02
Paypal is screwed up here as well. My Peru Visa card works with 90% of websites, but for putting loads on my phone, no dice. I am hoping that someone has $11 to load my number and I can just give them the money in Oct.
David,
I pick up a handful of Globe "Tattoo" 100P prepaid load cards when I am in Cebu. The cards usually have an expiration of one year to use the load, and the load itself lasts for 30 days after activation. I just pull one of the cards out when I am back home, scratch off the hiden load number on the back and send a text to Globe Philippines. Works great to keep a number active, and at 100P per month you can't beat the price.
Globe "Tattoo" load cards are for reloading the Internet USB sticks that Globe is now marketing. Maybe you just mean the regular Globe load cards? Not sure why you would buy a "Tattoo" card to load a phone but maybe you know something I don't know.
Am there also LOL but not that late as my cutie goes to class early leaving me time to play more :D
Was there today later as she had a late start....plus a serious spanking in her uniform ...RK and FF will definitely appreciate my educational tendencies and teaching here...more so as I used a leather strap she asked to bring from my home especially. Always believed in punishment especially when she is 19 an kinky :D
If you want to catch up for beer / coffee let me know ...best wander around at breakfast muttering my handle or your handle :)...am big fat bald bloke cant miss me most of the time. Will be there with schoolie but se not wear the uniform at breakfast..get a few interseting glances when she did before!! Was very happy as most were thinking "dirty old man" and those that know would know I consider that a nice compliment!
Ahhh WR how I wish I could have been there with you this trip. Little Miss Cutie School Girl may well have been late for school by the time we both helped with her homework.
Seems a bit of a chore for you to have to be awake so early to get her off (to school I mean hehe).
We will try to cross paths as you transit Manila.
RK and WR if either or both of you happen to be in Cebu Oct 6,7,8 I want to buy you some San Migs. I'll probably stay at the Diplomat but will let you know for sure. You guys have been an inspiration to me in these threads! Truly! I shit you not! :)
D Cups: drop me a PM when you are on the way and we can try to meet up somewhere or other.
Re Hotels in Dumaguete, your question on another post?
I can't help with names except to recommend that you DON'T stay at the Bethel Hotel. It is ultra clean and well-run but it is marketed as a "family hotel", is very girl unfriendly (signs on each floor attest to that) and the room crew start each day with a group reading of some bible texts and they sing a hymn too. My secretary booked me in there once (by mistake) and it is a bit surreal to be woken by the sounds of hymn singing.
Unless of course you want that environment!! Don't expect to see big boobs on display though.
Wicked Roger
07-23-10, 01:59
D Cups: drop me a PM when you are on the way and we can try to meet up somewhere or other.
Re Hotels in Dumaguete, your question on another post?
I can't help with names except to recommend that you DON'T stay at the Bethel Hotel. It is ultra clean and well-run but it is marketed as a "family hotel", is very girl unfriendly (signs on each floor attest to that) and the room crew start each day with a group reading of some bible texts and they sing a hymn too. My secretary booked me in there once (by mistake) and it is a bit surreal to be woken by the sounds of hymn singing.
Unless of course you want that environment!! Don't expect to see big boobs on display though.
LOL RK
Could not have happened to nicer man....that has made my day my friend. Trust your PA never did that again. When you heard the hymns did you think you had died and gone to heaven....probably not, as they sing that sort of tune where you and I will likely end up :D
She is never late for school.....we just 'rise' earlier and her ass is always red for her first 'other' lesson (well I call school her other education RK!)
'Other' lessons this visit may include some girls as well....tough being a teacher :D
DCups: may not make those dates but I have PMed you
See you Manila
Stroker Ace88
07-23-10, 08:00
Globe "Tattoo" load cards are for reloading the Internet USB sticks that Globe is now marketing. Maybe you just mean the regular Globe load cards? Not sure why you would buy a "Tattoo" card to load a phone but maybe you know something I don't know.
RK,
The Globe Tattoo Card I have reads as follows,
Globe Tattoo P100
Call, Text and Internet
Prepaid Load
I have used another kind of prepaid load card from Globe in the past, but the Tattoo cards work, so no complaints.
FreebieFan
07-23-10, 09:39
that) and the room crew start each day with a group reading of some bible texts and they sing a hymn too. My secretary booked me in there once (by mistake) and it is a bit surreal to be woken by the sounds of hymn singing..First time in Manila i visited Glorietta on a Sunday at 9am and as the doors were open I went in. Well the congregation was in full voice there too. On the floor above Mercury Drugs all the chairs are laid out in rows and the priest is telling everyone to go forth etc. Then later having seen in in various SM malls, Festival Mall etc I realised that hymn singing and bible thumping goes on everywhere... heck we even used to start union negotiations there with a prayer and song for " peace".
I am not sure if this is a bit late, but I stayed at the best hotel in town. The name escapes me for the moment.
It is not expensive, rooms are very good, right in the midddle of town, and very gf.
The desk staff and guards always gave a cheerful hi as I escorted girls in and out, 2, 3 or 4 in a day.
If I can remember it I will PM.
G
For what it is worth, I have tried both Globe Tattoo and Smart Bro internet dongles.
I found Globe to be hopeless. Seems there is no signal outside the capital cities.
Smart is not much better, but their entire system is so hopelessly overloaded that it barely works. But sometimes it does work. (But not here in Rizal, outer suburb of Manila)
G
GoodEnough
07-23-10, 13:16
For what it is worth, I have tried both Globe Tattoo and Smart Bro internet dongles.
I found Globe to be hopeless. Seems there is no signal outside the capital cities.
Smart is not much better, but their entire system is so hopelessly overloaded that it barely works. But sometimes it does work. (But not here in Rizal, outer suburb of Manila)
G
I have both a Globe and a Smart modem and find them about equally pathetic. Sometimes--depending on cell tower load I guess--one is slightly better than the other, but at best both are slow, struggle to download photos and are hopeless for video streams. They are both the next best thing to useless and I use them only when there's no other choice.
GE
GregLondon
07-24-10, 01:36
I am not sure if this is a bit late, but I stayed at the best hotel in town. The name escapes me for the moment.
It is not expensive, rooms are very good, right in the midddle of town, and very gf.
The desk staff and guards always gave a cheerful hi as I escorted girls in and out, 2, 3 or 4 in a day.
If I can remember it I will PM.
G
Harolds Mansion tends to be where people on a very tight budget stay, For mongers Hotel Nicanor is excellent, under a year old, well located (towards the sea front from Lee Plaza, reasonable rates (about 1000P) good in room free wifi, take as many girls as you like, friendly staff
Hi everyone,
I joined as I'm looking to relocate to the Philipenes in the next couple of years.
I notice there's quite a few here saying that basically, if you just walk around malls, you'll find yourself a girl who wouldn't mind been your girlfriend, so long as the money keeps flowing of course.
Now I'd prefer this type of arrangement over having a succession of girls every night (don't get me wrong the idea of that sounds good too, but would prefer to have a solid regular girl as well). My question is- is it really all that easy? I've never been that great at picking up non P4P girls in western countries- are 18-25 girls significantly easier to pick up in the PI compared to the 18-25 girls in the West?
Thanks, Gangles. Is it the Plaza Maria Luisa? :).
This is not one of the deluxe hotels in the city D-C (actually there aren't any).
Many Government agencies use it to house filipino participants in their seminars/workshops in the city (they can squeeze multiple beds into the rooms as pinoys like to stay in shared accommodation unlike most foreigners).
It may suit you short time but you also may find it is pretty average. Don't pay any up-front long-stay fees until you check it out.
Cheers.
GregLondon
07-24-10, 11:18
Hi everyone,
I joined as I'm looking to relocate to the Philipenes in the next couple of years.
I notice there's quite a few here saying that basically, if you just walk around malls, you'll find yourself a girl who wouldn't mind been your girlfriend, so long as the money keeps flowing of course.
Now I'd prefer this type of arrangement over having a succession of girls every night (don't get me wrong the idea of that sounds good too, but would prefer to have a solid regular girl as well). My question is- is it really all that easy? I've never been that great at picking up non P4P girls in western countries- are 18-25 girls significantly easier to pick up in the PI compared to the 18-25 girls in the West?
Assuming your question is not a joke, yes it is MUCH easier than in the West. Think of it as approximately as easy as buying a god pair of shoes in the West. ie If you just want ANY shoes, you just go to one of many shops take a quick look and get your credit card out. However if you want a pair that are well made, exactly firt you and exactly suit the use that you are going to put them to, you will probably have to shop around and spend a few days comparing different options depending on how fussy you are, but you can be pretty sure if you are prepared to put a little effort into the search, you are going to get one thats a great fit for you.
My single best piece of advice would be to find a girl that you like, is funny and fun to talk to but is not ultra jealous and will let you fuck other girls and indeed is happy to participate. There are many bisexula or semi bi girls that are for example looking for a guy willing to support them through college and in return will be his on tap of live in gf without getting jealous if you wish to bring another girl back
Gogobarlover
07-25-10, 00:32
I've been going to Mariott for the past few years but their door policy has tightened up especially at night. I figured a few tequniques around this but the security guards and doormen give me dirty looks now due to my high volume visitors and questionable age of my guests. Can someone reccomend a hotel that is centrally located (next to a mall. So I can meet girls that don't want to come direct to the hotel). I just don't want to get my ladies hasseled for I'd at any point. Something nice w a pool would be ideal.
Parklane Hotel man across Ayala Mall. Me and my friends would bring in regular girls and bar girls. We have not been questioned as of yet. The pool is on the 4th floor along with the Jacuzzi and Gym. The daily rate would be cheaper to stay at Parklane vs Marriott.
GoodEnough
07-25-10, 01:53
Parklane Hotel man across Ayala Mall. Me and my friends would bring in regular girls and bar girls. We have not been questioned as of yet. The pool is on the 4th floor along with the Jacuzzi and Gym. The daily rate would be cheaper to stay at Parklane vs Marriott.
I don't pretend to know, or even to like Cebu. However, I have to go there for a night on business next week, and booked a room at the Park Lane, via expedia, for $60 a night including breakfast (but not taxes), which seems like a good value, given what others have said about the quality of the hotel.
GE
Hug Monster
07-25-10, 04:00
I am going to PI in September 2010, because I am divorced from a filipina, without ever regretting that relationship. I met my wife (filipina) in Saipan, near Guam, in 1992. Her beauty was "Flawless", but I never really felt a perfect "Connection" with her. We parted in 1998 and I don't miss her, but I do miss having a companion. Saipan "WAS" a good place to meet Filipinas, but now it is too dangerous.
While I lived there I was dating three girls from PI at the same time. Two of them were living with me and sharing my bed. The third one lived in her employers' house as a maid. All three were attractive. I was 32 and they were from 2-7 years younger. However, as wonderful as this was for me, it took quite a bit of work to arrange, as I posted 1000 flyers all over the island and answered phone calls until I ended up with this arrangement.
Furthermore. It seemed as though once it was all done with, I had reached the limit for that Island. Another three girls would have been hard to find. So in that respect, going to PI seems a lot better where "Supply" is concerned, but in the early 1990's Saipan was a very CLEAN (not a hint of pollution) and a VERY SAFE place to live. To Sum it up. PI seems to be the ideal place to find a nice wife, but in 1991, when I was a Rookie Monger, I am glad that I had a safe USA "Territory" like Saipan to get started in.
Hug Monster
07-25-10, 04:21
As I stated before, I was married to a pretty Filipina in the past, but now I am divorced. I have Never been to PI, but I will be there in a few weeks.
Question: I am going to PI just to find a wife who will be my true companion and Teddy Bear for a long time. I am not really looking for bar girls,
Unless they would be a good wife, because "Bedding" a woman is not nearly as important to me as hugging while we take a nap. Sex is fun, but not the most important thing to me. How can I find a NICE lady to be with. Can she be found in Cebu, Davao, Baguio... Or do I need to go to a really remote province where the girls are not so "Tainted"?
I've been going to Mariott for the past few years but their door policy has tightened up especially at night. I figured a few tequniques around this but the security guards and doormen give me dirty looks now due to my high volume visitors and questionable age of my guests. Can someone reccomend a hotel that is centrally located (next to a mall. So I can meet girls that don't want to come direct to the hotel). I just don't want to get my ladies hasseled for I'd at any point. Something nice w a pool would be ideal.
Might try Midtown Hotel, located directly over Robinson's. It is located in the center of the city, Fuente Osmena, and within walking distance of Silver dollar and other bars (Vikings, Thunderdome). Can pick up girls in robinsons and go to your room without going outside. Just go to the elevator in the mall and to the lobby of the hotel then another set of elevators to your room. Has a small pool. All the girls know where Robinson's is. Plus, easy to get taxi. Hotel can be entered from the street or from the mall. Supermarket is on ground floor of mall, plus money changer with good rates is located adjacent to supermarket.
Okay - bad part. Last time I was there they tried to charge me extra for the girl...told them I have a 10yr. history of staying there. Dropped the charges. Better if you book for two. just an idea. The free breakfast is ok.
Choice 2. Holiday...something. Across and down the street (F. Ramos) from Robinsons. Again, location is good, breakfast is good, rooms are old. Get you laundry done at Raintree Mall. Go check them out while you are in cebu.
GoodEnough
07-25-10, 06:56
As I stated before, I was married to a pretty Filipina in the past, but now I am divorced. I have Never been to PI, but I will be there in a few weeks.
Question: I am going to PI just to find a wife who will be my true companion and Teddy Bear for a long time. I am not really looking for bar girls,
Unless they would be a good wife, because "Bedding" a woman is not nearly as important to me as hugging while we take a nap. Sex is fun, but not the most important thing to me. How can I find a NICE lady to be with. Can she be found in Cebu, Davao, Baguio... Or do I need to go to a really remote province where the girls are not so "Tainted"?
This is probably the wrong forum on which to seek advice for what is obviously an important issue.
With that caveat in mind, I suggest that the city you choose is less important than the way in which you conduct your search. One viable avenue is to select a city--I would advocate Davao because I live here and I like the place--make friends with some expats who have established serious relationships, and ask their wives/partners to introduce you to "serious" women who are in the market for stable relationships with foreigners. There are tens of thousands of women in this category. Following this route however, means that you've got to stay for a while and follow up the introductions you're given to identify those women who appeal to you and with whom you believe it may be possible to establish a relationship.
I've also known guys here who have identified dozens of potential mates through such sites as Date in Asia, Filipina Hearts, and others of similar ilk. I've never been on such sites, so I only got a sketchy idea of what's involved, but I do know others find them valuable.
GE
Tally Wacker
07-25-10, 06:59
Ive found that the Bargirls make the best wives.
I'm on my 4th one and they lall love to hug.
As I stated before, I was married to a pretty Filipina in the past, but now I am divorced. I have Never been to PI, but I will be there in a few weeks.
Question: I am going to PI just to find a wife who will be my true companion and Teddy Bear for a long time. I am not really looking for bar girls,
Unless they would be a good wife, because "Bedding" a woman is not nearly as important to me as hugging while we take a nap. Sex is fun, but not the most important thing to me. How can I find a NICE lady to be with. Can she be found in Cebu, Davao, Baguio... Or do I need to go to a really remote province where the girls are not so "Tainted"?
GregLondon
07-25-10, 07:46
As I stated before, I was married to a pretty Filipina in the past, but now I am divorced. I have Never been to PI, but I will be there in a few weeks.
Question: I am going to PI just to find a wife who will be my true companion and Teddy Bear for a long time. I am not really looking for bar girls,
Unless they would be a good wife, because "Bedding" a woman is not nearly as important to me as hugging while we take a nap. Sex is fun, but not the most important thing to me. How can I find a NICE lady to be with. Can she be found in Cebu, Davao, Baguio... Or do I need to go to a really remote province where the girls are not so "Tainted"?
My view is that it will be possible to find a good girl in most places bar Angeles and even there it may be possible. Where to look rather depends on what you are looking for. If you are looking for an 18 year old virgin type then you may well have luck in the Provinces, though even in the big cities there is a steady supply of such girls newly arrived from the Provinces. Personally, assuming that you are a mature guy, I would think the 18 year old virgin is not a good plan and you may find a girl with more education and experience more interesting. I think the more interesting women are difficult to find deep in the Provinces. Personally if i were lookinng for a wife i would look at the demand/supply situation. In small places popular with Western retires such as Dumaguete, the ratio of cuties to western guys huntinmg them is not attractive. In places like Mindanao there is a large population but becasue of the troubles very few westerners. So cities such as CDO and Davao may be promising hunting grounds.
Hug Monster
07-25-10, 11:18
To GE and GL, Thanks for your input and the help you gave me. I might have led you to think that when it comes to SEX, I am not interested, given my introduction to the group. I would love to take a "Hot" chick to a hotel and cuddle for hours, but I would rather it be a lady with whom I may have a promising future. I understand Greg's words about if I am a mature male, I may not want an 18 yo virgin. However, if she was a really nice girl who liked me a lot, I can wait until she is older before we have intercourse. I am 50, but look like about 42. I have had lots of GF's and been married 2wice. So I have had my share of good sex. For me, all the sex in the world would not make me as happy as being with someone who is having a LOT OF FUN "Cuddling". Someone who really loved me and I knew she would always be there for me. So I am not really "High" on escorts or bar fines unless she was like I talked about, but I would be very generous to a lady and her family if she was like I described above. Just a nice girl.
As I stated before, I was married to a pretty Filipina in the past, but now I am divorced. I have Never been to PI, but I will be there in a few weeks.
Question: I am going to PI just to find a wife who will be my true companion and Teddy Bear for a long time. I am not really looking for bar girls..............
I note that you described your previous wife as a "pretty filipina" from whom you are now divorced.
I also note that you are "going to PI to find a wife". Sort of like "going to the mall to buy a pair of trousers".
Have you properly analysed WHY you are now divorced and reflected deeply on the possibility (and likelihood) that going into the same pond again without a very clear plan of exactly WHAT you want may just end up as a re-run of your previous experiences. If you have and you still plan to come to the Phils than that's cool but filipinas in the Philippines tend to be much more "provincial" than filipinas who live abroad (I don't necessarily mean OFWs).
Some of the girls that I know very well here are wonderful to hug while taking a nap, great for sex and generally terrific fun BUT only for part of each day.
When I think long and hard about the prospect of spending all day every day with any one of them I realise that I would go crazy with the generally very shallow thinking that each one has. Most have only a vague knowledge of anything except show business gossip and virtually no idea at all about geography or history even within their own country. Having Wowowee on TV 6 days each week would either drive me out of the house or force me to get another TV for my study/office etc.
As I said before, most filipinas are great fun for 2 - 3 hours or even a weekend or 3 or 4 days in Boracay BUT you have to try to imagine how you would be if you had them around for much longer periods than that. When you do that deeper analysis, your criteria expand way way beyond whether she is pretty, sexy, tall, no stretch marks etc and you start truly thinking about what is in her head. Can we chat about stuff? Will the whole of the rest of my life be spent teaching her about many things that we consider trivial.
I am not putting down the whole species of filipinas. There are special ones around who make wonderful companions but they are not necessarily the best-looking ones and they are often the shy ones who you will never meet in malls or anywhere else. You must do as Good Enough says in an earlier post - find ways to have women introduced to you or maybe use DIA or some other internet avenue.
Hug Monster
07-25-10, 12:05
To: Red Kilt
Yes, it is true. I am divorced from my Filipina wife and going back for another one may end up the same way. However it was 6 years of waking up with a beautiful lady who loved me more than I loved her. I just got to a point where beauty was not enough. That is why I don't miss her so much as I miss.
Having a new companion. So when I meet a new filipina, I will make sure that I feel more for her than just lust and I will be with her for awhile before we get.
Married. If it "ONLY" lasts for another 6 years, that is okay, because I will still take care of her and her family, but I will move on.
I agree with most of the advice you have been given here. I have lived with a Filipina here in the UK in an on and off relationship for the last 5 years. She is here legally and now has UK residence. By the standards of most Filipinas she is reasonably educated, finished high school and attended college here in the UK.
However she has absolutely no comprehension of history, politics or geography. She cannot hold an intelligent conversation unless it involves pop music, her friends or family or the latest celebrity gossip. She had no idea what the second world war was or even how the conflict at that time, impacted on her own country. That was an interesting chat that took a whole evening of my time!
Everytime I come home I have to listen to the music channel constantly and she will spend hours in isolation happily texting her friends, or watching filipino TV on her lap top. I can't come home from work and discuss problems with her, she just would not understand unless I bring everything down to a basic level for her.
Yes she is a great companion for affection and love, will take on the household chores with professional relish and they can also make great mothers. I survive because I have a network of friends around me that I can go to for intellectual stimulation and company, but if I had to rely solely on this with my GF then I would truly go mad.
I have no doubt my gf loves me, she is financially independent and does not need to be with me unless she chooses. However I feel that I often play second fiddle to her family and her friends in terms of importance, but I accept that as the Filipina way.
I guess what I am saying is that you need to recognise the potential negatives in such relationships and be ready to embrace them before the relationship that you seek has any chance. You said that you were in a relationship with a Filipina before so my guess is that you have experienced much of what I have already told you. Just make sure you understand that these traits are very common and not peculiar to your one specific failed relationship
Hug Monster
07-25-10, 13:05
That was some great advice, some of it I already had an idea about, but hearing it again from another mate of a Filipina reassures me that I am not the only one. This is why I am not going to marry a second Filipina, unless we
Live together for about a year and it works out well for both of us. Yes, both of us, because if she is not happy, then I have failed and I won't be happy.
I am not too worried about going to PI, because if a relationship doesn't work out, I can always do the Monger thing until I meet another GF. During those times, I will have to rename myself "Hug Monger", because I hate condoms.
I agree with most of the advice you have been given here. I have lived with a Filipina here in the UK in an on and off relationship for the last 5 years. She is here legally and now has UK residence. By the standards of most Filipinas she is reasonably educated, finished high school and attended college here in the UK.
However she has absolutely no comprehension of history, politics or geography. She cannot hold an intelligent conversation unless it involves pop music, her friends or family or the latest celebrity gossip. She had no idea what the second world war was or even how the conflict at that time, impacted on her own country. That was an interesting chat that took a whole evening of my time!
Everytime I come home I have to listen to the music channel constantly and she will spend hours in isolation happily texting her friends, or watching filipino TV on her lap top. I can't come home from work and discuss problems with her, she just would not understand unless I bring everything down to a basic level for her.
Yes she is a great companion for affection and love, will take on the household chores with professional relish and they can also make great mothers. I survive because I have a network of friends around me that I can go to for intellectual stimulation and company, but if I had to rely solely on this with my GF then I would truly go mad.
I have no doubt my gf loves me, she is financially independent and does not need to be with me unless she chooses. However I feel that I often play second fiddle to her family and her friends in terms of importance, but I accept that as the Filipina way.
I guess what I am saying is that you need to recognise the potential negatives in such relationships and be ready to embrace them before the relationship that you seek has any chance. You said that you were in a relationship with a Filipina before so my guess is that you have experienced much of what I have already told you. Just make sure you understand that these traits are very common and not peculiar to your one specific failed relationship
Your words could be used to describe the same situation with Lao, Thai, Vietnamese etc in the same way. However, I am told is that the Filipina long term relationship is more likely to be respectful of your needs as a husband/bfriend. I can't help noticing that people I have met and got to know generally had a better chance with a Filipina relationship. Unlike Thais, they don't have the funny racial attitude to foreigners, don't shut off the sex and switch on the gambling once they hit a long term relationship. You don't get the sudden summons from the family as you do with the Vietnamese, nor the "what's mine is mine, what is yours is everyone's."
If you get a good one, and only time will tell you about that, don't ever expect an intellectual conversation. I have met so-called highly educated people in SE Asia who know nothing about the countries nearby them, have no sense of history (except when they have some ideological version rammed down their throats, as is the case in Vietnam) and have no idea of the way of life in Western countries. It is rare to find someone who reads anything other than newspapers and magazines.
In support of Mortman, take the advice of an old-timer I knew (now deceased) who told me that to survive in SE Asia and countries like them, you need to cultivate friends, mainly expats, who have similar interests to your own. If you want, take a local wife and, of all the Asians, the Filipinas make the best wives and they speak better English. But wife stays at home when you meet your expat buddies unless they are accompanied by their wives - then the wives can all chat and gossip together in the kitchen.
Yes, some people will think that I am being racist. Far from it. I have met SE Asians who grew up in Western countries and many of them are well capable to holding an interesting conversation. So, it is not the fact that they have a particular genetic makeup that gives rise to their lack of knowledge and curiosity about the world. And yes, there are a few, very few, living in SE Asia who do get curious about the world. But most of them end up studying abroad and then continue to live abroad. So you are unlikely to find a local in SE Asia who has the knowledge or understanding you seek. Mind you, I have met a small number in the past 20 years in Asia - and their problem is that they don't fit in and are therefore often unhappy and messed up in the head. I tried a relationship with one of them and it ended very badly.
I attended the grand opening of the newest bar in Cebu -- one of the ErikRed group. If my alcohol addled mind recalls correctly, it is Mango Sweet lips. It is down the side street between Yellow Cab Pizza and Vienna Cafe.
I put on my favorite plaid bell bottoms and got their early 8pm. At first it was dead, but shortly afterwards a lot of familiar faces rolled in as the dancers from the other clubs arrived. By 8:30 the bakla show was on and some of it got me laughing -- something I try hard never to do.
After the show there was a free buffet. The food wasn't nearly as good as the anniversary spread at Liza's Sea Fun Pub back at their anniversary. Oh, and the drinks were free until 10pm.
The place was filling up nicely and I had to fight viciously to keep one of those red sofas free for special guests WR and his rather appealing companion. They arrived. WR's companion didn't talk much but she did in fact confirm that the the man is truely wicked.
After 10pm the drinks remained cheap with ladies drinks only 100. I bought as many as I could trying to build up good will. By previous night's Viking bf was one of the dancers and she introduced me to her older sis. The two of them were very cute and petite. I think one was 39 kilos and the other 38. Well, WR and I were both inquiring about the possiblilty arranging something really fun and included both sisters in either his bed or mine. In the end I barfined the 2nd sister so I got both of them in the same bed, but unfortunately not on the same night.
To sum up there is a new ErikRed bar. It is much smaller than Viking, but you will recognize the same red sofa layout. You'd think the guy would change colors at least once.
X
I note that you described your previous wife as a "pretty filipina" from whom you are now divorced.
I also note that you are "going to PI to find a wife". Sort of like "going to the mall to buy a pair of trousers".
Have you properly analysed WHY you are now divorced and reflected deeply on the possibility (and likelihood) that going into the same pond again without a very clear plan of exactly WHAT you want may just end up as a re-run of your previous experiences. If you have and you still plan to come to the Phils than that's cool but filipinas in the Philippines tend to be much more "provincial" than filipinas who live abroad (I don't necessarily mean OFWs).
Some of the girls that I know very well here are wonderful to hug while taking a nap, great for sex and generally terrific fun BUT only for part of each day.
When I think long and hard about the prospect of spending all day every day with any one of them I realise that I would go crazy with the generally very shallow thinking that each one has. Most have only a vague knowledge of anything except show business gossip and virtually no idea at all about geography or history even within their own country. Having Wowowee on TV 6 days each week would either drive me out of the house or force me to get another TV for my study/office etc.
As I said before, most filipinas are great fun for 2 - 3 hours or even a weekend or 3 or 4 days in Boracay BUT you have to try to imagine how you would be if you had them around for much longer periods than that. When you do that deeper analysis, your criteria expand way way beyond whether she is pretty, sexy, tall, no stretch marks etc and you start truly thinking about what is in her head. Can we chat about stuff? Will the whole of the rest of my life be spent teaching her about many things that we consider trivial.
I am not putting down the whole species of filipinas. There are special ones around who make wonderful companions but they are not necessarily the best-looking ones and they are often the shy ones who you will never meet in malls or anywhere else. You must do as Good Enough says in an earlier post - find ways to have women introduced to you or maybe use DIA or some other internet avenue.
You have to understand the girls who are willing to meet you, stay with you, fuck your brains out are generally not educated. Some might have taken a college course but not well versed with general knowledge about the world.
Many girls here in USA in spite of being educated cannot hold a intelligent conversation or hardly know anything aout the world or current events. They hardly ever listen to the news or watch CNN.
If somebody wants to marry a Philippina , he is looking for friendly, homely girl who will be a good mother to the childeren. Not to talk about world events.
I have dated lots of girls here and very few make a good conversation material. That is why we take them to a movie( no talking), dancing( too loud to talk), have sex ( moaning only) and sleep (practically dead to talk).
A good percentage of men get bored if they stayed with one woman constantly. Many stay married for the sake of children.
In defence of philippinas, they will definitely make good wives and mothers. They grew up family oriented and will never ecome independant of the family.
Sammon, RK and Simian: you guys make some excellent points here about the motivation to marry (Filipinas) and the very real fact that no one woman, regardless of ethnicity, could ever meet all of your needs (sexual + intellectual + familial + (fill-in-the-blank). For me, the fill-in-the blank is musical. If she's not inclined to sing or play an instrument she'll have to be enamored (or pretend to be enamored) by my own guitar playing and singing :).
I want to find a college-educated RN one-third my age (I'm 54 and in reasonably good shape). She's got to have a pretty face, slim waist and giant boobs. If she doesn't have the boobs, off we go to Cebu to bolt them on. If she doesn't have the education, off she goes to Silliman U to study her pretty little ass off (between taking care of yours truly). If she gets pregnant and we have one or two little ones well that's ok. At least in the PI one can afford day care!
That's my plan, guys.
In terms of infidelity, it's difficult for me to imagine never banging some strange once in awhile. I guess some Pinays are ok with it as long as you are discreet. Others want to castrate you so I've heard. Guess I'll cross that bridge if I ever get to it.
Meanwhile, you guys are spot on about the importance of your buddies. I have never met any woman in my entire life that can keep my interest, aside from the sex, and can carry on a decent conversation about sports or rock music or worldly beers. So, I look forward to making some real good friends, expats, in Dumaguete City and Cebu to watch American football, drink San Miguel and play rock music. And my cute little spinner with the big boobs will take care of the rest! Cheers, mates! :0
You have to understand the girls who are willing to meet you, stay with you, fuck your brains out are generally not educated. Some might have taken a college course but not well versed with general knowledge about the world.
Many girls here in USA in spite of being educated cannot hold a intelligent conversation or hardly know anything aout the world or current events. They hardly ever listen to the news or watch CNN.
If somebody wants to marry a Philippina , he is looking for friendly, homely girl who will be a good mother to the childeren. Not to talk about world events.
I have dated lots of girls here and very few make a good conversation material. That is why we take them to a movie( no talking), dancing( too loud to talk), have sex ( moaning only) and sleep (practically dead to talk).
A good percentage of men get bored if they stayed with one woman constantly. Many stay married for the sake of children.
In defence of philippinas, they will definitely make good wives and mothers. They grew up family oriented and will never ecome independant of the family.
Sammon, RK and Simian: you guys make some excellent points here about the motivation to marry (Filipinas) and the very real fact that no one woman, regardless of ethnicity, could ever meet all of your needs (sexual + intellectual + familial + (fill-in-the-blank). For me, the fill-in-the blank is musical. If she's not inclined to sing or play an instrument she'll have to be enamored (or pretend to be enamored) by my own guitar playing and singing :).
I want to find a college-educated RN one-third my age (I'm 54 and in reasonably good shape). She's got to have a pretty face, slim waist and giant boobs. If she doesn't have the boobs, off we go to Cebu to bolt them on. If she doesn't have the education, off she goes to Silliman U to study her pretty little ass off (between taking care of yours truly). If she gets pregnant and we have one or two little ones well that's ok. At least in the PI one can afford day care!
That's my plan, guys.
In terms of infidelity, it's difficult for me to imagine never banging some strange once in awhile. I guess some Pinays are ok with it as long as you are discreet. Others want to castrate you so I've heard. Guess I'll cross that bridge if I ever get to it.
Meanwhile, you guys are spot on about the importance of your buddies. I have never met any woman in my entire life that can keep my interest, aside from the sex, and can carry on a decent conversation about sports or rock music or worldly beers. So, I look forward to making some real good friends, expats, in Dumaguete City and Cebu to watch American football, drink San Miguel and play rock music. And my cute little spinner with the big boobs will take care of the rest! Cheers, mates! :0
I am sure you will be very happy living in Philippines. I cannot imagine living there long time without a live in girl whether married or not. All RN are trying to get out of Philippines to get a well paying job. I doubt whether they want to marry you and live in PHI.
Age is not a issue there. You will find young 18-25 year old to marry you. Slim Body, Pretty face, Giant boobs depends on the eye of the beholder.
There will be many girls willing to be your wife if you can take care of them. They would definitely want children of their own. But do not make children and run away.
Screwing other girls on the side will ok as long as you do not advertise the fact like in any country. I am sure you do not want many people telling your wife that you screw around. It will be bad for her reputation as well.
Sometimes you may find a girl who is ok with it.
Good Luck.
GoodEnough
07-25-10, 23:40
I agree with most of what's been said in the last several post regarding the limitations of deep thought and intellectual stimulation available from most filipinas or, for that matter, filipinos. As stated by others, this is not a function of ethnicity or genetics, but of education and culture. This is not a culture that values, for the most part, independent thought, intellectual curiosity. Anyone doubting that should spend some time at a local university or secondary school, where all learning is based on rote memorization. I've yet to meet a filipino who reads for pleasure, and I don't know many who routinely pick up copies of the Economist, or even Time magazine.
I've solved the lack-of-stimulation problem (as have many others) by cultivating a circle of expatriate friends who share my cultural context, interest, and educational background. For me, it's the only way to survive mentally intact while still enjoying the country. My partner seems to understand this character trait and doesn't seem to have any problems with it.
No matter how intelligent your companion may be--and there are lots of intelligent filipinas--her intellectual interests are not likely to be the same as ours, given that such interests stem from a lifetime of acculturation and years of Western education.
GE
Wicked Roger
07-26-10, 02:04
I attended the grand opening of the newest bar in Cebu -- one of the ErikRed group. If my alcohol addled mind recalls correctly, it is Mango Sweet lips. It is down the side street between Yellow Cab Pizza and Vienna Cafe.
I put on my favorite plaid bell bottoms and got their early 8pm.
They arrived. WR's companion didn't talk much but she did in fact confirm that the the man is truely wicked.
X
X
Good to catch up, tou have drunk more than me of freebies :D the bar is RED LIPS or MANGO RED LIPs but the location is correct, ask the taxi man for Yellow Cab Pizza and you cant miss it as there are 2 signs - X's direction for me were spot on
Was quietly impressed with the gilrs, mainly slim and light weight (UltraPilot please note!). Miss A spent most her time talking to the older sister and told me was her first night, she was "shy" and unlike other sisters I have known carnally was not bisexual and definitely not with sister :(
Me wicked?...well depends on the definition but she does like me being wicked trust me...
Your other companions seemed very happy last night at Sunflower , both cute and sexy.
I have also been busy with 3 college girls...I knew 1 but she came with 2 others, one extremely cute and my shape and size so I spent most of the time with her while the others watched..lovely jubbly. Had to keep bsuy during school hours as I said. In fact the combined age of 3 naked Cebuanas in my bed the other night was a tad (only a tad) greater than my real age!!!! What a nice place Cebu is
Have a few more DIA 'dates' lined up including another with Miss AM (different one) a dancer at Tempations who found out why she prefers westerners to pinoys when she met me the other day :D One for D Cups as she has a lovely rack but slim body...will post a few pics when I get time especially for DC. Will also do of Miss A for DC (check PM)
She is a repeat as is 'S' the slim uni/college girl plus 'C;' her friend. The third 'T' was OK but a tad shy after seeing little roger. C has has westerners before and 'S' was her first but definitely not her last!!
Naturally I see Miss A each night for more BDSM and bondage lessons and hopefully later in the week for girl girl lessons with GL. She really is so sexy and horny especially in her minis and heels...but she also brought with her her extra school uniform so we can play big time :D..yummy, yummy
What with these lovely girls and 2 good mates from the Middle East/Singapore arriving (Flux Ice and Asian Flava) as well as a host of others in town, Cebu is a fun place to be :D
See you soon X....and GL and SpamHog...and UltraPilot....
PS I can vouch that I have never seen Xman in any check/plaid shorts or pants
Hi everyone,
I joined as I'm looking to relocate to the Philipenes in the next couple of years.
I notice there's quite a few here saying that basically, if you just walk around malls, you'll find yourself a girl who wouldn't mind been your girlfriend, so long as the money keeps flowing of course.
Now I'd prefer this type of arrangement over having a succession of girls every night (don't get me wrong the idea of that sounds good too, but would prefer to have a solid regular girl as well). My question is- is it really all that easy? I've never been that great at picking up non P4P girls in western countries- are 18-25 girls significantly easier to pick up in the PI compared to the 18-25 girls in the West?The difference is night and day. Its unbelieveable.
But you got to be careful and pay attention. And actually even if you don't have much money some girls really want a boyfriend and they make good girlfriends., it s not only about money for all of them. Just like its not only about sex for all of us?
But of course if you have both then why not.
I go USA now and don't even have girls my age look at me.
Here in Philippines I meet new girls all the time of all ages above 18 years that want to live with me and love me. (in many different ways) anyway feel free to inbox me and research here if you want more information my favorite place is Angeles.
Hug Monster
07-27-10, 08:23
Okay Okay Okay. [Indecipherable Text deleted by Admin]. I don't know if it's just me, or are there some other people who feel the way that I do about filipinas? Now that I am a bit older, 50, I just want to go to PI and find a teddy bear. I have enough money to move there and have a pretty good life. I am not looking for a "Brainiac". I don't seek any kind of discussion about politics, geography, algebra, etc. I just want a cute lady who needs and loves me, as much as I need and love her. If she is kind and honest, like I am, we should have a very busy life doing charity work in PI, just like I have done here in WA for the past 12 years. I want to help her and her family, because. I CAN. And I will also be happy, because I won't get with a woman, unless I adore her.
Muide and Hug you can have what you want. I to want to love and help. You can find them 20. You will need to find that crowd to talk to and share experinces with. Old Western type people. Even old western raised Philippino's. It is possible. I like the part about trust. and honesty. But never let your gaurd to far down.
1. If thier lips are moving. That concept apply's all over the world.
2. You need to understand how they are with thier family. You can be bleed that way. And she just will not understand what is going on. She will give them all her shit. So, what is wrong with you giving them all yours.
3. It is a differnet culture. There is a book called Culture shock by two philippino's. It is great reading. If you intend to stay and live it should be # 1 on your list of things to do.
Now, Even though you guys say you want someone to be with steady. Ask yourself if you have ever been faithfull for more than 5 years. If, not? Well understand and figure out how that will work. Just because they say in the beginning that they understand. The pat answer the world over is I thought you would change? Plan from day one how to deal with that.
The world over men know what is meant by a woman scorned. And the only person who can decide she has been scorned is a woman. When yours decide she has been scorned. Watch out. Plan for this to happen. Like do not keep all your eggs in one basket. Maybe even know that there will always be several baskets. Because PI woman spend what they have. It is there culture. Read the book it is all explained.
I want the same thing you guys do. I was married to a PI girl. I read the book after my divorce. Wish I would of read it earlyier. Would of saved me alot of time trying to explain how to save money.
Hope I am not to negative. Because I do believe that there is all kinds of good advice on PI girls and human girls on the last few pages. I think alot of people have expressed true experinces.
It is possible. Just set boundrys. Listen and learn. It will make for a better experince.
Good luck
Hug Monster
07-28-10, 02:02
Muide and Hug you can have what you want. I to want to love and help. You can find them 20. You will need to find that crowd to talk to and share experinces with. Old Western type people. Even old western raised Philippino's. It is possible. I like the part about trust. and honesty. But never let your gaurd to far down.
1. If thier lips are moving. That concept apply's all over the world.
2. You need to understand how they are with thier family. You can be bleed that way. And she just will not understand what is going on. She will give them all her shit. So, what is wrong with you giving them all yours.
3. It is a differnet culture. There is a book called Culture shock by two philippino's. It is great reading. If you intend to stay and live it should be # 1 on your list of things to do.
Now, Even though you guys say you want someone to be with steady. Ask yourself if you have ever been faithfull for more than 5 years. If, not? Well understand and figure out how that will work. Just because they say in the beginning that they understand. The pat answer the world over is I thought you would change? Plan from day one how to deal with that.
The world over men know what is meant by a woman scorned. And the only person who can decide she has been scorned is a woman. When yours decide she has been scorned. Watch out. Plan for this to happen. Like do not keep all your eggs in one basket. Maybe even know that there will always be several baskets. Because PI woman spend what they have. It is there culture. Read the book it is all explained.
I want the same thing you guys do. I was married to a PI girl. I read the book after my divorce. Wish I would of read it earlyier. Would of saved me alot of time trying to explain how to save money.
Hope I am not to negative. Because I do believe that there is all kinds of good advice on PI girls and human girls on the last few pages. I think alot of people have expressed true experinces.
It is possible. Just set boundrys. Listen and learn. It will make for a better experince.
Good luckRedman69,
That was really nice , thanks and I will buy the book that you talked about.
Hugs
Buddy I hear what you are looking for, but Listen to Redman.
I have grave concerns for you. You say you don't want a braniac. Which makes me think you are not the kind of guy to read a book.
But you MUST. I know Pinays speak English and act Christian, and eat burgers but that is just a coat of paint. Underneath you need to consider they are Martians. I am exaggerating to get your attention.
The book recommended was Culture Shock! Philippines Alfredo Roces, Grace Roces. Amazon or any bookstore can order it for you.
There are also lots of web sites to read. Not just the dating sites, which are all positive. Google words like Pinay Filipina culture scam disaster expat.
You can and will find a loving sweetheart, but it will not be a life as easy as you hope.
P culture has little concept of living beyond today. They can't plan and budget. And as has been said, give everything to their family. You will be seen as the lottery win for all the family. All the way to second cousins and friends of friends. And if you don't "lend " money at the drop of a hat, then you will suffer "Tampo" the worlds worst form of sulking.
Be careful. Or else all your funds won't go to charitable causes just lazy family.
At least do this Separate you funds into living costs and your real charity work. She can see one but not the other.
Again, you don't want a braniac, but if you get one with anything less than a college education she will be incapable of any form or budgeting, planning and certainly incapable of helping you in your charity work. (always there are exceptions but you get the idea). Better yet, find one who is doing charity work now. That's a good test:
I have some experience which I can't share here but if you want to chat, pm me, we can exchange emails and numbers. Please take some of the advice being offered here.
Since there seem to be a bunch of expats and diehard mongers around in Cebu I was thinking about getting something together at maybe the sunflower thursday night, which is ladies night.
Anybody game?
Spamhog
Okay Okay Okay. [Indecipherable Text deleted by Admin]. I don't know if it's just me, or are there some other people who feel the way that I do about filipinas? Now that I am a bit older, 50, I just want to go to PI and find a teddy bear. I have enough money to move there and have a pretty good life. I am not looking for a "Brainiac". I don't seek any kind of discussion about politics, geography, algebra, etc. I just want a cute lady who needs and loves me, as much as I need and love her. If she is kind and honest, like I am, we should have a very busy life doing charity work in PI, just like I have done here in WA for the past 12 years. I want to help her and her family, because. I CAN. And I will also be happy, because I won't get with a woman, unless I adore her.
Hey man I do like the way you think. Nothing wrong with giving back if you so desire to. I applaude u bro.
Wicked Roger
07-28-10, 04:50
Since there seem to be a bunch of expats and diehard mongers around in Cebu I was thinking about getting something together at maybe the sunflower thursday night, which is ladies night.
Anybody game?
Spamhog
You know I am game as we met yesterday, Asian Flava is and ask Flux Ice also. See you soon
GregLondon
07-28-10, 05:02
I have had quite alot of chats with a 22 year old single mum in Cebu who is very keen to generate some cash (500P + fare from Ramos St, Cebu is OK for her). She's a 6.5 in looks in my books, 47kg (ie slightly chubby). She offered (without me requesting) mouth, pussy and ass (2 rounds). I told her I prefer nulliparas (more accurately: "I prefer girl no baby") but may have some friends who love fucking a girl's ass.
She was keen for me to find a guy interested try her. Her DIA: "cloud_princezz" she has given her location as her hometown in leyte rather than Cebu unless she has already taken my advice and changed it.
She gives her number there. I think she could use a nicer photo so if you meet her you might see if you can give her a nice pic.
So any of you ass bandits out there may want to get in touch with her. I've not met her personally so no guarantees.
Wicked Roger
07-28-10, 10:28
So any of you ass bandits out there may want to get in touch with her. I've not met her personally so no guarantees.
We are not ass bandits ...that is for those baklas :D we are purveyors and eduactors of a great ancient language...more of a mouthful GL but sounds better :D
Catch you soon
Guy Wif Attitude
07-28-10, 12:57
Hey dudes,
Anyone stayed at the Diplomat? Any reviews of it please?
I'm thinking about either going cheap charlie at the Diplomat, or staying at Parklane which I know will be good, but there's like a $50 difference and I thought I could spend it on drinks / womanising instead.
Gogobarlover
07-28-10, 20:45
Hey dudes,
Anyone stayed at the Diplomat? Any reviews of it please?
I'm thinking about either going cheap charlie at the Diplomat, or staying at Parklane which I know will be good, but there's like a $50 difference and I thought I could spend it on drinks / womanising instead.
I stayed at the Diplomat hotel 2 months ago. I stayed there first for several nights to save money before going to Parklane Hotel. It's a good value and it's among the very few 3 star hotels that I know of that have an in room safe. The room is pretty clean. I stayed in the Superior room but requested a single queen size bed.
Pros:
-Cheap hotel $19-$25/night for standard & superior rooms
-Has in-room safe & mini bar
-Rooms are clean and spacious
-Lobby is big
-250 pesos massage located outside of Diplomat Hotel. 350 pesos if you want in room massage. (I tried it and it was pretty good) Got some cute workers in there to hehe. Parklane charges 800 pesos for in room massage.
-Laundry services is considerably cheaper than Parklane Hotel
Cons:
-The location is not as close to the main malls as other hotels on Mango Avenue. You do have to walk 5-10 minutes on F. Ramos Rd until you hit Robinson Mall and Mango Avenue. Plus, it is quite dark at night walking on F. Ramos Rd. Late at night, I would take a taxi back to Diplomat when I'm at a bar on Mango Avenue.
-No Free Wifi. It's expected though for the cheap price. On top of this, the Wifi can be quite slow
Rates: 30min = 65pesos, 60min = 130pesos, 3hrs = 300pesos <---I'm not 100% correct on these rates though but, something like this.
-Air cons in the rooms work well but, it can get noisy even on the lowest setting.
-There is construction going on nearby. But, the noise did not bother me though. I guess because I sleep so... late hehe.
Marconista
07-29-10, 00:09
For those afraid of supporting the whole family (and their friends), why not go for an orphan girl? I am sure there are plenty of them around.
And - if you are to do charity work, an orphan, that has stayed in an orphanage will surely support your work since she has experienced it herself how much they need support/charity.
If you start working charity at an orphanage, you may even find the lady of your dreams right there, di ba?
Just my thoughts.
For those afraid of supporting the whole family (and their friends), why not go for an orphan girl? I am sure there are plenty of them around.
And - if you are to do charity work, an orphan, that has stayed in an orphanage will surely support your work since she has experienced it herself how much they need support/charity.
If you start working charity at an orphanage, you may even find the lady of your dreams right there, di ba?
Just my thoughts.
Sorry Lads, but No such thing as "orphans" in this culture. Yeah, all parents and family gone but they seem to gravitate to substitute familys. You got to remember, when you got Five to seven bros and sisters and your parents come from equally large familys your uncles, aunts cousins and extended family etc. it would take a nuke strike to wipe out the whole family.
Charity work/volunteer work is fine, but then you are gonna run into the missionaries, Nuns, Catholic Priests and international do gooders who will see right through us mongers and have your head on a platter.
Spamhog
Superman06
07-29-10, 02:33
I stayed at the Diplomat hotel 2 months ago. I stayed there first for several nights to save money before going to Parklane Hotel. It's a good value and it's among the very few 3 star hotels that I know of that have an in room safe. The room is pretty clean. I stayed in the Superior room but requested a single queen size bed.
Pros:
-Cheap hotel $19-$25/night for standard & superior rooms
-Has in-room safe & mini bar
-Rooms are clean and spacious
-Lobby is big
-250 pesos massage located outside of Diplomat Hotel. 350 pesos if you want in room massage. (I tried it and it was pretty good) Got some cute workers in there to hehe. Parklane charges 800 pesos for in room massage.
-Laundry services is considerably cheaper than Parklane Hotel
Cons:
-The location is not as close to the main malls as other hotels on Mango Avenue. You do have to walk 5-10 minutes on F. Ramos Rd until you hit Robinson Mall and Mango Avenue. Plus, it is quite dark at night walking on F. Ramos Rd. Late at night, I would take a taxi back to Diplomat when I'm at a bar on Mango Avenue.
-No Free Wifi. It's expected though for the cheap price. On top of this, the Wifi can be quite slow
Rates: 30min = 65pesos, 60min = 130pesos, 3hrs = 300pesos <---I'm not 100% correct on these rates though but, something like this.stated the
-Air cons in the rooms work well but, it can get noisy even on the lowest setting.
-There is construction going on nearby. But, the noise did not bother me though. I guess because I sleep so... late hehe.
I stayed back in March for ten days. I pretty much agree with Gogobarlover's assessment. I like to travel cheap and the Diplomat fit the bill. My room was cleaned daily and 15.6" screen laptop just fit into the room safe. The restaurant was pretty good but nothing special. As stated the wifi was pretty weak plus having to pay for it was a negative. I had a lot of trouble holding Skype calls because of the weak wifi. True, it's not next to the action but Mango is a cheap taxi ride away. I'd stay again even with the wifi issues.
Econo Tech
07-29-10, 07:03
Charity work/volunteer work is fine, but then you are going to run into the missionaries, Nuns, Catholic Priests and international do gooders who will see right through us mongers and have your head on a platter.those in orphanages are brain washed that they must find money to feed the rest. Not that it is a bad thing. But it borders on coercing the hard working.
I know a few orphaned. Who send almost half their pay to the orphanage. And the orphanage people do take six monthly vacation. Now if they cut down the vacation (Filipino style. Need to UNWIND di ba?) and really used the money to the real cause, then those who left the orphanage will not be sucked so badly.
Add to that. Even if their orphanage is not demanding. The fellow countrymen will make instant 'ate' 'kuya' 'lola' 'tita' and what not. Till they end up scamming the lot.
If you want to do something. Donate to Charities like Bahay Bata, or the Gawad Kalinga. Most of the other NGOs (not just in Phil, but almost everywhere) are out to make money.
Cheers
Does anyone stayed at Alpa City Suites. It offers a good value for money. Is it girl friendly. I am planning to stay almost one month in Cebu.
WR, Thanks for the good photos. I love looking at pictures. I take some myself. And post pictures of myself for the world to see. I am an ole x-con. It is ok, I said that because I like the way you left her face out so as not to start any controversey. I do see the logic in the fact that they let you take them. Then, they are yours to do with as you want. So, thanks for the pictures and I think they are done is a classy way. But I also agree with your comment on the Veitnam board to Juandao that he is a legand. I do like his photo's too. And the way you can watch him bring the girls out from behind the pillows to the grimace on thier face the first time. I do like both. Next is a DP in the threesome for your little Cebuno. Just so she can tell her kids she tried it once of course. You will be doing her a favor!!!!!
I am a three holer myself. As a famous man here. Named Howard Stern said. I do not know why God put the sewer pipe next to the desert bar.
For, me when I was young I slid in the mud, Mom said don't worry it is just mud and it will wash off. Ain't bothered me since.
I agree about orphans in PI. Also I want to say that a lot of scams are surrounded by forgien men and children. The truth is there are perverts in the world who abuse pre pup boys and girls. PI is a poor country and it has attrached its fair share. I am Catholic, OK, But I am sure the churchs have contributed its fair share to this problem. What I am saying is you should watch yourself around kids in PI.
I have thought it would be more easy to give the money to the orphanage itself and just leave it at that. I am also a member of CRT. We did have an orphanage fund on that board. And when I went by they did act like not only did they want the school supplies but also want a free days labor.I had a 19 year college student on my arm so we looked and left.
I am on another Cebu board called living in cebu forums. It is a good info board and a great source of expat crowd stuff and I thought of it as a way to solve the problem of not sharing alot with a 23 year old student. It has a great group of guys. And girls. Some of the memebers wifes and live in girl friends post on it. It is a clean spot, With a few family events. I would speculate that 80% of the members were like us, Then met someone and settled down. What that means is they still like to have fun. Of course there is a lot of drinking and arguments about who's beer is the best. [ Aussies ] and lots of english speaking people form all over the world are on it. I do not drink, so some of the events worry me and I think I would fit in better at the family style stuff.
The thing about Orphanages and how to help kids and stuff has been discussed on that board and other places. For you guys looking to settle into Cebu I would suggest this source allso. Just don't forget they are a Co-ed board in the clean way.
Radaboy has the info in his post on this page.
But you MUST. I know Pinays speak English and act Christian, and eat burgers but that is just a coat of paint. Underneath you need to consider they are Martians. I am exaggerating to get your attention.
The book recommended was Culture Shock! Philippines Alfredo Roces, Grace Roces. Amazon or any bookstore can order it for you.
There are also lots of web sites to read. Not just the dating sites, which are all positive. Google words like Pinay Filipina culture scam disaster expat.
Happy hunting
Don't waste your money. I read it cover to cover and threw it away. Maybe the fact I was raised in Hawaii and with 25% Filipino, most of this is second nature to me.
Perhaps some of the etiquette is new to some. The best way to handle yourself is with politeness coupled with a tad of humility and appreciation.
Do unto the Filipino as you would want the Filipino to do unto you in your country.
Enough Said
Take Care,
Jaggar1
You know I am game as we met yesterday, Asian Flava is and ask Flux Ice also. See you soonI hear no more plus the best singer in cebu no longer in stagecrew very sad day for me. Used to be my favorite night in cebu and I hear now egypt closed down.
Econo Tech
07-30-10, 07:20
Who are the authors of Culture Shock, please? I want to read this book as I am serious about retiring in the PI. Thanks.In the meantime you can warm up with this.
http://www.western-asian.com/things-to-consider
Hug Monster
07-30-10, 16:33
Hello, Guys (are there any females?),
Do any of the clubs in AC or Cebu let you pay a barfine with a travelers check? Do any of the Pros or Part Timers take them?
Hug Monster
07-30-10, 16:52
When you want to take a girl back to your room, from the mall, barfine, sidewalk, etc..... Is it harder to get a girl back to a discount hotel, and is it usually easier if you ask them back to a 4 or 5 star hotel?
Stroker Ace88
07-30-10, 18:04
Hello, Guys (are there any females?),
Do any of the clubs in AC or Cebu let you pay a barfine with a travelers check? Do any of the Pros or Part Timers take them?
This is a joke right? Are you serious?
I have read your useless dribble for the past week about only wanting to litterally "rent" a wife for 7 years just so you can be happy, now you ask if you can pay a barfine or a girl off the street with a travellers check??
I don't want to flame you, but come on. Will your next question be if you can put a bargirl on lay-away instead of lay-today?
Hug Monster
07-30-10, 19:50
This is a joke right? Are you serious?
I have read your useless dribble for the past week about only wanting to litterally "rent" a wife for 7 years just so you can be happy, now you ask if you can pay a barfine or a girl off the street with a travellers check?
I don't want to flame you, but come on. Will your next question be if you can put a bargirl on lay-away instead of lay-today?I lived in Saipan for three years during the early 90's and you could pay your bar-tab and your bar-fines with travelers checks at some of the clubs. Most of the bar-fines are Chinese, or Filipina and Saipan is just East of Manila. Also... I never said that I wanted to rent a wife for seven years, or any amount of time. Now, tell me again about "Useless Dribble".
GregLondon
07-31-10, 00:13
When you want to take a girl back to your room, from the mall, barfine, sidewalk, etc..... Is it harder to get a girl back to a discount hotel, and is it usually easier if you ask them back to a 4 or 5 star hotel?
The semi pros will typically assume that the guys staying at 4/5 star places will be richer and thus more likely to pay up than the cheap charlies staying at a pension. Most of the better looking/more popular girls are not going to be keen to stay with a guy at a 600P pension as they rightly figure that such a guy will be unlikely to hand over 1000-1500P to them in the morning. Of course there are plenty of lower end girls for whom a 600P pension is a palace.
Aside the prospects for a rich and stupid guy, I find most girls prefer to hang out at mid level 1500-2500P hotels because these are generally more tolerant and friendly to girls coming and going (I have 6 or 7 girls regularly coming and going so there are almost always 2 or 3 girls in my room which would probably not be possible if I were staying at a place with a sniffy attitude to more than one joiner such as the Marriot. One of my girls stayed at the marriott recently and really didnt like it because though very comfortable she had to pay 10x the normal amount for a sanitary napkin when her period started. of course if she has a guy who wil pay for everything that's not a big concern. But unfortunately she was with a guy who figured that it was OK to buy some 5x overpriced clothes for her friend in Ayala whilst not offer her a single peso even for taxi money.
GregLondon
07-31-10, 00:23
Hello, Guys (are there any females?),
Do any of the clubs in AC or Cebu let you pay a barfine with a travelers check? Do any of the Pros or Part Timers take them?
I suspect that some of the bars will change TT at rip off rates.
The idea that the girls will take them is pretty ridiculous. Let's take a reality check here. Maybe 80% of the freelancers/part timers don 't have bank accounts. Why is that? Well to open a bank account (except in the Land Bank I believe) there will be minimum deposits or 500-5000P, many have a policy of a monthly charge if you have a low balance and no regular incoming money. Most of the girls you will be dealing with will have less than 1000P of cash assets at any particular time. Besides this, banks will require 2 forms of ID and for many girls even this is a step too far. many of thenon college girls will not have any valid ID at all - because it generally takes a few hundred pesos and plenty of queueing to get some.
GregLondon
07-31-10, 00:27
This is a joke right? Are you serious?
I have read your useless dribble for the past week about only wanting to litterally "rent" a wife for 7 years just so you can be happy, now you ask if you can pay a barfine or a girl off the street with a travellers check??
I don't want to flame you, but come on. Will your next question be if you can put a bargirl on lay-away instead of lay-today?
Actually I think what HM said was that he was previously married to a Filipina for 7 years and if a second marriage "only" lasted 7 years this was a good outcome for him.
IMHO this isn't stupid at all, but rather sensible. I think it is the guys that anticipate that they will marry a girl "till death do us part" that are the fools (unless they are close to their closing time).
Thanks, ET. I read the 15 things, with interest, and now know a little more of what to expect. Ideally, I'd like to find a Pinay and move her to another island or at least another PART of the island :). I'm ok with the "courtship" part (can even sing and play some haranas on guitar ;) but the thought of the inlaws (father, brother, nephew, cousin, etc) dropping in unannounced whenever they feel like it (or need some money) is going to be discouraged unless I specifically ask them to.
In the meantime you can warm up with this.
http://www.western-asian.com/things-to-consider
GregLondon
07-31-10, 02:39
Thanks, ET. I read the 15 things, with interest, and now know a little more of what to expect. Ideally, I'd like to find a Pinay and move her to another island or at least another PART of the island :). I'm ok with the "courtship" part (can even sing and play some haranas on guitar ;) but the thought of the inlaws (father, brother, nephew, cousin, etc) dropping in unannounced whenever they feel like it (or need some money) is going to be discouraged unless I specifically ask them to.
I didnt think this article was that great. Certainly you need to be aware that you are signing up to the a relationship with the whole family. A very large poor family could prove a real financial drain.
My observation of these things is that Western guys seem either to significantly underestimate their own desirability and thus the quality of girl they are looking for or significantly overestimate it, assuming that they can find and (more problematically that she will agree to the match) their fantasy dream girl.
Guys who have done limited research on their first trip to the Phils tend to fall into the former category. A girl who may seem a real beauty in the context of the options available at home, is regarded as very mediocre by those of us who have been in the Phils a while. On the other hand if you spend too long on the dating sites being bombarded by apparent interest or come to the Phils many times and have many partners you start to believe you can find the perfect fantasy girl. The problem is that guys will start to imagine a 1 in a million girl and forget that such girls have other options and settling down in a small house in Bohol to look after a 60 year old western guy with various medical conditions may not be top of their agenda, unless they see you as a temporary stepping stone to financial security/ passport.
Hug Monster
07-31-10, 03:41
Actually I think what HM said was that he was previously married to a Filipina for 7 years and if a second marriage "only" lasted 7 years this was a good outcome for him.
IMHO this isn't stupid at all, but rather sensible. I think it is the guys that anticipate that they will marry a girl "till death do us part" that are the fools (unless they are close to their closing time). Thank You... Thank You... Thank You!
I feel that waking up next to a three-time beauty contest winner, for
Seven years, is a GIFT! I would be lucky to do it again. And to Mr. Ace 88,
I like me, my employees like me, and next month when I move to PI, all of
My SEXY roommates will like me too. So why not be happy? It's too bad that you must be so negative.
Econo Tech
07-31-10, 09:13
Thanks, ET. I read the 15 things, with interest, and now know a little more of what to expect. Ideally, I'd like to find a Pinay and move her to another island or at least another PART of the island :). I'm ok with the "courtship" part (can even sing and play some haranas on guitar ;) but the thought of the inlaws (father, brother, nephew, cousin, etc) dropping in unannounced whenever they feel like it (or need some money) is going to be discouraged unless I specifically ask them to.My 2 cents? YOu aint seen nothing until you see it.
Even if you live in Mars, the family will find a way to 'surprise' you.
Example: a bar girl, working as a Singer in Singapore (Legally) earning less than 500 US a month, and her younger sister is in Hong Kong for about the same salary. And another in Taiwan for same pay.
Now When the eldest sister's birthday came, she was pleasantly surprised, when her whole family turned up (I am sure the flight ticket for the gang would have been more than 2, 000 US).
The main thing is "SURPRISE" PARTY. And the mother and cousin had brought cooked food all the way from Philippines.
Now if that can happen to some place a few thousand miles away. How far are you going to run to hide?
And I got to agree with Greg. The info there is just a drop in the ocean.
My experience with filipinas. Each one has been unique. So much so each experience would warrant a trade mark.
If you decide to 'curtail' her. It will only be a matter of time before she finds new 'ate' 'kuya' and 'tita'. And they will be a new family. (I am referring to the neighbours in your new hideout.)
Alternate. Marry a rich and well to do filipina or one who is well exposed and from a good upbringing and will frown upon such silly stuff as 'emergencies' and what not. And they don't exist in bars.
Maybe you can find them in Churches?
I understand your skepticism (cynicism/realism?), Greg, and I remain an optimist on a misssion. I don't do the dating sites (at least not with Pinays) --prefer to go in person. I'm not wealthy (by American standards but I do ok) so certainly cannot afford to be instant provider to a bunch of lazy moochers! Yet, I figure if she has at least some schooling at the college level perhaps her family is not dirt poor. I can be generous but refuse to be stupid!
Take care
I didnt think this article was that great. Certainly you need to be aware that you are signing up to the a relationship with the whole family. A very large poor family could prove a real financial drain.
My observation of these things is that Western guys seem either to significantly underestimate their own desirability and thus the quality of girl they are looking for or significantly overestimate it, assuming that they can find and (more problematically that she will agree to the match) their fantasy dream girl.
Guys who have done limited research on their first trip to the Phils tend to fall into the former category. A girl who may seem a real beauty in the context of the options available at home, is regarded as very mediocre by those of us who have been in the Phils a while. On the other hand if you spend too long on the dating sites being bombarded by apparent interest or come to the Phils many times and have many partners you start to believe you can find the perfect fantasy girl. The problem is that guys will start to imagine a 1 in a million girl and forget that such girls have other options and settling down in a small house in Bohol to look after a 60 year old western guy with various medical conditions may not be top of their agenda, unless they see you as a temporary stepping stone to financial security/ passport.
Whatsgoingon
07-31-10, 14:56
Well I finally got back to Dubai after my holiday which had a couple of days in Cebu sandwiched either side for me to enjoy some R&R.
Not much extra to report apart from the fact that there were a very large number of older guys in Ayala mall this time round. Fortunately I'd prearranged to BF the same waitress from Vikings as before and we spent the weekend together which was really quite nice. This was as GFE as I would like to get, we lay around watching TV hugging, ate out together, went bowling and dancing. In fact all the things to make up for lack of intelligent conversation about world affairs!
I completely agree with what others have said here about marrying a Fili. This girl was stunning, great in bed, wonderful to just hold, but I would need someone to have an intelligent dialogue about shit to supplement this.
I also checked out the new go go bar off Mango. It was quite busy, has a nice bar but the furniture looks like old christmas wrapping paper....its horrible. They have recycled some of the bar staff and girls from the other Vikings bars.
I also checked out SUnflower on the weekend and this was a great place to take a girl, much better than Juliana's.
All in all I am glad I visited Cebu, I was hit on by two shop assistants and next time I will spend more time here to try and life a normal existance.
Thanks to you all for tips. Cheers
Wicked Roger
08-01-10, 03:58
Well I finally got back to Dubai after my holiday which had a couple of days in Cebu sandwiched either side for me to enjoy some R&R.
Not much extra to report apart from the fact that there were a very large number of older guys in Ayala mall this time round.
I completely agree with what others have said here about marrying a Fili. This girl was stunning, great in bed, wonderful to just hold, but I would need someone to have an intelligent dialogue about shit to supplement this.
I also checked out the new go go bar off Mango. It was quite busy, has a nice bar but the furniture looks like old christmas wrapping paper....its horrible. They have recycled some of the bar staff and girls from the other Vikings bars.
I also checked out SUnflower on the weekend and this was a great place to take a girl, much better than Juliana's.
All in all I am glad I visited Cebu, I was hit on by two shop assistants and next time I will spend more time here to try and life a normal existance.
Thanks to you all for tips. Cheers
WGO
Shame we did not email as I was one of those older guys in Ayala :D Well I was also with my Cebu fav in heels and short dress etc....Also wioth Asian Flava and Flux ICe among others (all same hotel - Parklane).
As for Cebuanas and intelligent conversation, sometimes I dont need that, but my fav is always saking and we have a good level of conversation which I enjoy and is why I like her so much. And she likes my other educational lessons ....fortunately the hotel laundry managed to clean her school uniforms..something about shagging a teenager in her real schoolie outfit before she goes to school...and spanking her :D
Red Lips was fun when iw as there with Xman. Not worried about the decor more the girls, most seemed slim and sexy, Xman had 2 nice ones when I met him
Spend more time in Cebu as I do, mopre relaxed for me and you can hit on a lot trust me...
Next WGO lets touch base and see if out paths cross
GregLondon
08-01-10, 04:06
or schools, ET? Medical schools? :) If her daddy is richer than I will he help us build a house? What do you think? There's gotta be a well-to-do dad somewhere over there that wants his pretty little girl (with the big boobs) to marry an American professor/doctor!
Cripes that is a helluva story about the moochers. I have been warned! :) Thanks.
What one has to realise is that the really high quality catches - low 20s, slim, good family, educated etc will very probably have quite a few suitors. By and large the larger the economic gap in terms of your vs her financial position, the larger the potential gap between your and her physical attractiveness in terms of youth/beauty. Typically the girls from rich families will be looking for matches in their say 30s/40s not in their 60s/70s unless you are very wealthy/charming or otherwise desirable.
or schools, ET? Medical schools? :) If her daddy is richer than I will he help us build a house? What do you think? There's gotta be a well-to-do dad somewhere over there that wants his pretty little girl (with the big boobs) to marry an American professor/doctor!
Not really D-C, unless you are reasonably close to her in age.
Most pretty girls (with big boobs and rich daddys) will have many many suitors following them like dogs following a ***** in heat, and the girls can pick and choose the wealthier ones. American professors are not important in their scheme of things. Families who have money send their kids to the expensive schools specifically to make contacts with both sexes with an eye on the future. Filipinos put great importance on those who are "class-mates". It is almost a badge of honor.
Re the family.
It is very difficult for you to separate yourself and you need to think about this way before you get yourself involved.
No matter how much you lay down the law about not giving money to the relatives there will be circumstances where you will find it very difficult to avoid.
Example. Your wife's hard-working and conscientious brother is suddenly hospitalised with a stroke. He has 6 kids all at school and no money. He recovers but cannot be released from hospital until the 11,000 pesos bill is paid. You are told about this in a very tangential way by your wife but no request for money is made. What do you do? This is a real case - it happened to me, along with several other cases.
I paid the 11,000 of course, because the brother is a great guy and the family is lovely and they are all innocent parties. Some of you will say "Let them do whatever they would they do if you were not around?"
I guess that they would have begged and borrowed the money from various sources to get Dad out of hospital but then they would have a debt that would be impossible to pay back. The likely knock-on effects include the kids would have to stay home from school, they would have nothing to eat, etc etc
Just a story to chew on.
I stayed back in March for ten days. I pretty much agree with Gogobarlover's assessment. I like to travel cheap and the Diplomat fit the bill. My room was cleaned daily and 15. 6" screen laptop just fit into the room safe. The restaurant was pretty good but nothing special. As stated the wifi was pretty weak plus having to pay for it was a negative. I had a lot of trouble holding Skype calls because of the weak wifi. True, it's not next to the action but Mango is a cheap taxi ride away. I'd stay again even with the wifi issues.I stayed at The Diplomat one night last June, did not book before and just walked in around 11pm and it wasn"t a good experience.
I was given a twin room and the wifi did nor work at all + the toilet did not flush well. I tried the breakfast in the morning and it wasn't nice, even the coffee wasn"t good.
I moved to Holiday Plaza Hotel the following day and stayed 3 nights there.
Holiday Plaza is much better, next to Bo's coffee and a 3 min walk from Robinson's mall. Breakfast is ok and the wifi even if not free worked and was fast enough. I advise to have your clothes washed at the laundry behind the Western Union close to the hotel.
Econo Tech
08-01-10, 08:24
Not really D-C, unless you are reasonably close to her in age.
Most pretty girls (with big boobs and rich daddys) will have many many suitors following them like dogs following a ***** in heat, and the girls can pick and choose the wealthier ones. American professors are not important in their scheme of things. Families who have money send their kids to the expensive schools specifically to make contacts with both sexes with an eye on the future. Filipinos put great importance on those who are "class-mates". It is almost a badge of honor.
You saved me a lot of typing. Good one. I have seen such types, and always head out with body guards, and more often than ones, the mom was with the daugther when it was a date, and then the mom was paying the bills, and then the mom said the family would be honored to treat me in Singapore,. Seems they own a 3 million US House in Singapore. I retreated as fast as I can into my black hole.
Though the daughter was fun to be with. I knew it could never go to the stage of dad accepting me. They wanted a Filipino, and with matching wealth, and boy they did seem to have a load.
If you attend those private parties in Philippines you will know.
Re the family.
It is very difficult for you to separate yourself and you need to think about this way before you get yourself involved.
No matter how much you lay down the law about not giving money to the relatives there will be circumstances where you will find it very difficult to avoid.
Example. Your wife's hard-working and conscientious brother is suddenly hospitalised with a stroke. He has 6 kids all at school and no money. He recovers but cannot be released from hospital until the 11, 000 pesos bill is paid. You are told about this in a very tangential way by your wife but no request for money is made. What do you do? This is a real case. It happened to me, along with several other cases.
I paid the 11, 000 of course, because the brother is a great guy and the family is lovely and they are all innocent parties. Some of you will say "Let them do whatever they would they do if you were not around? "
I guess that they would have begged and borrowed the money from various sources to get Dad out of hospital but then they would have a debt that would be impossible to pay back. The likely knock-on effects include the kids would have to stay home from school, they would have nothing to eat, etc etc
Just a story to chew on.Been there. Done that. You nailed it.
Re the family.
It is very difficult for you to separate yourself and you need to think about this way before you get yourself involved.
No matter how much you lay down the law about not giving money to the relatives there will be circumstances where you will find it very difficult to avoid.
I guess I was lucky. Married a college trained engineer from Q-City. She was 14 years my junior and I was a senior NCO in the US military so not rich at all. She was probability smarter than I was.
Her family was able to send all their kids to college so money was not a big problem. Wife sends money home for holidays and birthdays and I make sure she has a little extra of my money to give the nieces and nephews when she goes home.
We have been married for over 20 years and tolerate each other well. She has maintained her looks and still gets me all tingly when I see her naked.
Close to a perfect little wife so I guess I got lucky. There must be other quality wife material out there if you know where to look.
Slim
Whatsgoingon
08-01-10, 13:37
WGO
Shame we did not email as I was one of those older guys in Ayala :D Well I was also with my Cebu fav in heels and short dress etc....Also wioth Asian Flava and Flux ICe among others (all same hotel - Parklane).
Next WGO lets touch base and see if out paths cross
We swapped a couple of emails before my first visit but the timing wasn't good. My second visit was rather unexpected in that I was flying back via Manila and decided my connection was too tight and managed to fit in 2 days in Cebu....it was rather last minute so didn't have time to plan too much.
Next time I will absolutely email you.
I guess I was lucky. ...............
We have been married for over 20 years and tolerate each other well. She has maintained her looks and still gets me all tingly when I see her naked.
Close to a perfect little wife so I guess I got lucky.
Slim - you did very well but heyyy it was 20 years ago when there was nowhere near the percentage of poverty that there is today.
My wife is a perfect wife too. She is educated and was not poor nor unemployed nor a bar girl when we met 10 years ago.
It was her brother who was dirt poor though - subsistence rice farmer. Believe me - I was the last resort to get him out of hospital.
My post was simply to remind readers that relationships with women, and especially filipinas, have all sorts of levels of complexity and there are rarely simple solutions to any problems that occur.
Thanks, Greg. Not wealthy but occassionally charming (so I'm told) and also a romancer on the guitar. Big turn on for most chicks :). Maybe I'll have to find a widow! ha!
Just come and see mate.
Don't over analyse or over theorise too much in advance, but keep all the advice that you are receiving in the foreskin ...errrrr... forefront of your brain so you don't get trapped by any minx, widow or otherwise, before you get a chance to learn the full set of rules of the game.
Ohhhh... BTW, there is no full set of rules. They are modified every minute of the day
GregLondon
08-02-10, 09:15
Just come and see mate.
Don't over analyse or over theorise too much in advance, but keep all the advice that you are receiving in the foreskin ...errrrr... forefront of your brain so you don't get trapped by any minx, widow or otherwise, before you get a chance to learn the full set of rules of the game.
Ohhhh... BTW, there is no full set of rules. They are modified every minute of the day
I think the main problem you will have is fulfilling a criteria such as D cups or 5ft 8in plus which maybe only 1% of Filipinas will meet. Once you compound this with the other things that you are or should be looking for you quickly get to the 1/10,000 type girls in which case it's going to be very difficult to find. If I had an obsession with big boobs, Philippines would be quite low down on my list of possible destinations. Medellin, Colombia would probably be where i would start the search.
I have met her in person last December and she is nothing to brag about. As a matter of fact she is a dead lay and lazy. She was always homeless. If she she is a 3-holer then maybe that is her secret cause she do not even do blow jobs.
I have had quite alot of chats with a 22 year old single mum in Cebu who is very keen to generate some cash (500P + fare from Ramos St, Cebu is OK for her). She's a 6. 5 in looks in my books, 47kg (ie slightly chubby). She offered (without me requesting) mouth, pussy and ass (2 rounds). I told her I prefer nulliparas (more accurately: "I prefer girl no baby") but may have some friends who love fucking a girl's ass.
She was keen for me to find a guy interested try her. Her DIA: "cloud_princezz" she has given her location as her hometown in leyte rather than Cebu unless she has already taken my advice and changed it.
She gives her number there. I think she could use a nicer photo so if you meet her you might see if you can give her a nice pic.
So any of you ass bandits out there may want to get in touch with her. I've not met her personally so no guarantees.
Member #4351
08-02-10, 15:37
D Cups, you should get in touch with Nibu Rafael, who lives a never ending quest for giant boobs. I think that you would have better luck in Colombia or the D.R. You might want to read the Sosua thread and consider taking a quick trip down there. Not that many large boobed chicas in Cebu.
D Cups, you should get in touch with Nibu Rafael, who lives a never ending quest for giant boobs. I think that you would have better luck in Colombia or the D.R. You might want to read the Sosua thread and consider taking a quick trip down there. Not that many large boobed chicas in Cebu.
Most Latin women are big chested. Guatemala,Nicaragua, Peru women are generally broad upper body with small boobs.
If you catch them young boobs will be firm. Older ones if they did not have boob job will drop all the way to the floor once the bra comes off. This will have an adverse effect on your erection viagra or no viagra.
I have seen some Philippina women with nice large boobs. Generally Phi women do not have large breasts unless they are real fat.
Lushington
08-02-10, 21:17
D Cups. Your search is over!
This girl on DIA looked sooo hot I followed up and persevered and got to chat her on her ym.
It took about 3 minutes for her to ask me to buy her a cam. Hahahhaha
One thing for sure. She's got great looking boobs!
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=61647c63-671b-4608-88ba-e9d59948e3cf
Phil FELLED- LOS LOSING
I have been married to a Phili for over two years and we live in LOS and travel to the UK for holidays.
I write this to say that mongering in Phili is a dodgy business.
And Cebu Pacific is the airline to hate. Check the complaints online.
The officioius fascist officials at the airport including Immigration staff and everywhere where they wear a uniform or control a 'desk'
Forget the banks and watch out for scams at money changing booths.
The fast food is muck but they seem to like it.
Good restaurants are found in the provinces but you must get lucky. "Buttered Chicken" means "Battered Chicken"
Hotels are over priced. Internal ferries are suspect.
Their Embassies are the worst I have been to. They treat their own like shit too.
I understand the place is poor but do they help themselves enough?
Petty corruption, theft and indifferent service are the norm.
What else can I say?
Pharmacies are a hell of a ripoff.
Take a mini medicine kit.
(Take Madonna from LOS- The Morning after pill 20-30 baht
Get her on the pill if she's worth it- The local Phili one is 35 peso or Marvelon from LOS
Two Madonna and straight on to Marvelon. Saves Liguid arms and legs.)
Never been to Angeles so never been ripped off or got a dose.
I am allergic to rubber.well the big boy is.
Suggest you monger in LOS.Issan provinces- Korat, Chaiyaphum, Khon Kaen or Udon Thani.
Pattaya? You get what you C. At twice the price. Ask the girls where they come from?. Issan
Or Get a Phili over to LOS for 30 days in a cheapy hotel (250bht with A/C in Udon) and fcuk it until its coming out of her ears. They are queuing up on Date in Asia. You need "sponsor" letter and she needs cash and return ticket.
Better to use Thai air or Kuwait for trouble free travel MNL BKK- Airasia do Clark to KL too.
Not Cebu PacificAir. Its cheap and fraught with hazards.
I am sorry Phili. I have given you every chance but a fleeting visit is one thing, staying long term seems too much a struggle.
LOS long term is becoming tacky too and I have been here near on 6 years.
I must checkout Vietnam.
Or is it me?
GregLondon
08-03-10, 01:48
D Cups, you should get in touch with Nibu Rafael, who lives a never ending quest for giant boobs. I think that you would have better luck in Colombia or the D.R. You might want to read the Sosua thread and consider taking a quick trip down there. Not that many large boobed chicas in Cebu.
Medellin is known as Colombia's Silicon Valley and not because of its computer industry. A GF of mine there said that it is pretty common for girls to be given boob jobs for their 14th birthday as even if they are mediumly emdowed they will otherwise find it hard to compete.
Medellin has a great year round spring climate because of the altitude plus tropics. Cartagena has a beautiful old town, so so beach and Caribbean flavour. I rate Colombia much better than DR. If you go to Medellin, Aussie Greg's place is a great place to stay, he has a couple of "mansions" which are havens for mongers and a great place to swap stories and girls. I think for Spanish speakers Colombia is on par with Phils, but if you are limited to English the pickings are much thinner and the girls choosier in terms of looks and age or more expensive.
GregLondon
08-03-10, 04:33
Thanks GL, Sammon and David. Good to know. I don't speak Spanish but may visit there anyway. Maybe I'll take a crash course before I go to Curaco in March.
Learning even 50 words would be very useful. The English speaking girls are usually the top 5% graduate/student types
GregLondon
08-03-10, 06:05
D Cups. Your search is over!
This girl on DIA looked sooo hot I followed up and persevered and got to chat her on her ym.
It took about 3 minutes for her to ask me to buy her a cam. Hahahhaha
One thing for sure. She's got great looking boobs!
http://www.dateinasia.com/UserProfile.aspx?uid=61647c63-671b-4608-88ba-e9d59948e3cf
Great find Lush. Of course the Phils is jam packed with flower sellers and other street vendors who look just like this. LOL
Wicked Roger
08-03-10, 06:10
Phil FELLED- LOS LOSING
I have been married to a Phili for over two years and we live in LOS and travel to the UK for holidays.
I write this to say that mongering in Phili is a dodgy business.
And Cebu Pacific is the airline to hate. Check the complaints online.
The officioius fascist officials at the airport including Immigration staff and everywhere where they wear a uniform or control a 'desk'
Forget the banks and watch out for scams at money changing booths.
The fast food is muck but they seem to like it.
Good restaurants are found in the provinces but you must get lucky. "Buttered Chicken" means "Battered Chicken"
Hotels are over priced. Internal ferries are suspect.
Their Embassies are the worst I have been to. They treat their own like shit too.
I understand the place is poor but do they help themselves enough?
Petty corruption, theft and indifferent service are the norm.
What else can I say?
Pharmacies are a hell of a ripoff.
Take a mini medicine kit.
(Take Madonna from LOS- The Morning after pill 20-30 baht
Get her on the pill if she's worth it- The local Phili one is 35 peso or Marvelon from LOS
Two Madonna and straight on to Marvelon. Saves Liguid arms and legs.)
Never been to Angeles so never been ripped off or got a dose.
I am allergic to rubber.well the big boy is.
Suggest you monger in LOS.Issan provinces- Korat, Chaiyaphum, Khon Kaen or Udon Thani.
Pattaya? You get what you C. At twice the price. Ask the girls where they come from?. Issan
Or Get a Phili over to LOS for 30 days in a cheapy hotel (250bht with A/C in Udon) and fcuk it until its coming out of her ears. They are queuing up on Date in Asia. You need "sponsor" letter and she needs cash and return ticket.
Better to use Thai air or Kuwait for trouble free travel MNL BKK- Airasia do Clark to KL too.
Not Cebu PacificAir. Its cheap and fraught with hazards.
I am sorry Phili. I have given you every chance but a fleeting visit is one thing, staying long term seems too much a struggle.
LOS long term is becoming tacky too and I have been here near on 6 years.
I must checkout Vietnam.
Or is it me?
Well you sure dislike PI. While I would agree with some of what you say it is not that bad as you state IMHO, maybe you had a bad day or week...or month
CPac is a good airline IMHO, flown many times, nice staff, as good or as bad as PAL. I have flown PAL and is same I chose CPac as cheaper and can book online with a CC easily, PAL web site is monstrously difficualt to navigate where I live
Food can be terrible but then chose something else.
Corruption is part of life unfortunately and will never change IMHO so expect it (maybe not accept it).
And while some do treat their own like shit (I have seen it and the consulates in the Middle East are pretty useless at times), they also have a great sense of family and trying to help each other so depends who you meet etc.
Vietnam is a fun place and so is Cambodia.
But I actually like PI because it is somewhat chaotic and bohemian at times, yes there is many things wrong with it but I find the Pinays far better than a Thai girls for a number of reasons (though others will clearly disagree with me) and I feel comfortable there (though maybe that is because I enjoy some excellent GFE and beautiful ladies).
But each to his own so if you dont come back that is unfortunate but dont bring the whole country down ...it is corrupt, virtually bankrupt and shits on the poor most of the time but still a nice place for some mongers like me
GoodEnough
08-03-10, 11:38
I posted this report yesterday on the Dragon Slayer's forum, and he asked that I repost it here, in case any of the guys are contemplating staying at the Park Lane.
I arrived this morning to spend a single day and night on business in Cebu. Based on skimming some reviews and on location, I chose the Park Lane Hotel, which I think bills itself as a four star but is at best, a three, and were it not for the attractive blue glass facade, I would rate it a two star.
The service is essentially indifferent and inept. It took me more than 20 minutes to check in, with two people "helping," and there was no one in line in front of me. First, I was told that the type of room I had booked, and for which I had paid in advance was "not available." When I responded that this was the hotel's problem, not mine, and received the panicked, "deer-in-the-headlights" look in return, I knew I had a problem.
I told the staff that since the hotel could not honor my guaranteed reservation, I should be upgraded, and, after checking twice with an unseen supervisor I was upgraded to the "Executive floor." Now if this is the executive floor, I'm not sure I want to see how the other half lives. The room is small, the bathroom about the size of a walk-in closet , and the TV, while adequate, is nothing much. The furnishings are attractive, but cheap and the bed is at best a queen size. This room pales in comparison to the executive rooms in the Dusit.
The price of the room, with tax, via Expedia is about $73 (60+13), and it's simply not worth the money in my opinion. The next time, I'll listen to my own advice and stay once again at the Marriott.
GE
Wicked Roger
08-03-10, 12:25
I posted this report yesterday on the Dragon Slayer's forum, and he asked that I repost it here, in case any of the guys are contemplating staying at the Park Lane.
GE
GE
We will disagree on this but we know each other well and I have posted also on DS Forum
I stay PL all the time when Cebu and never an issue. Had the problems you noted with major chains including Shangri La and Shertons, and maybe just a hiccup thsi time but unfortunate. Marriott is better no doubt but I get a great rate and am happy, staff seem to recognise me etc but I tend not to use much of the facilities except the bedroom :D
And being a very young guy compared with you (LOL) am likely more chilled out and relaxed :D
But your complaints would annoy the crap out of me too so fully understand. As someone said, email Expedia as good it know and you can go on Trip Advisor and do a review (this is an Expedia owned site)
See you soon
Have fun
Does anyone stayed at Alpa City Suites. It offers a good value for money. Is it girl friendly. I am planning to stay almost one month in Cebu.
Welcome to the board! Yes you are correct in that it is a good value on par with Parklane as many ISG members tend to frequent. 95% of hotels in Cebu are girl friendly as I'm sure this one is as well. Have not stayed there yet but I did tour the facility. www.alpacitysuites.com/pages/aboutus.php
This property is less then a year old and in a decent neighborhood. Actually located in Mandaue just over the Cebu city limits and a few minute walk from the Sykes call center complex, which has shops and restaurants like Bo's Coffee and McDoanlds offering huge pick up potential both day and night.
For nighttime activities, across the street from Sykes is the 'Halo' complex (next door from the defunct Paseo disco) with a disco, kareoke and several restaurants and bars. There is a KTV behind Sykes but have never been.
Stroker Ace88
08-03-10, 19:20
Just wondering if anyone knows of a good place to buy some bikinis in Cebu.
I have previously bought a few bikinis from a discount bin in Robinsons Fuente for under 700P when a girl that stayed with me wanted to swim in the hotel pool, but the pickings were slim the last time I visited. Anyone know of a place either in Ayala or SM that I can pick up a few at a reasonable price.
Brother, all women love to shop. You make big points if you ask your lady to make gala-gala at ayala (LOL). Means to parade/window shop with friends. Let her bring a girlfriend too! Besides, she's got to try them on and maybe you get a good show.
Enjoy
Just wondering if anyone knows of a good place to buy some bikinis in Cebu.
I have previously bought a few bikinis from a discount bin in Robinsons Fuente for under 700P when a girl that stayed with me wanted to swim in the hotel pool, but the pickings were slim the last time I visited. Anyone know of a place either in Ayala or SM that I can pick up a few at a reasonable price.
Member #4351
08-03-10, 21:16
Go to Metro, largest store in Ayala.
QUOTE=Stroker Ace88]Just wondering if anyone knows of a good place to buy some bikinis in Cebu.
I have previously bought a few bikinis from a discount bin in Robinsons Fuente for under 700P when a girl that stayed with me wanted to swim in the hotel pool, but the pickings were slim the last time I visited. Anyone know of a place either in Ayala or SM that I can pick up a few at a reasonable price.[/QUOTE]
Call me a cheap charlie if you want but I was staying with my gf in Cebu City last year. She has two kids and needed swim suits and bathing towels for the three of them. She asked for 1000 pesos and went off to Colon Street returning a couple of hours later with three swim suits, three towels and enough change to get a taxi back to the hotel!
Damm Mort you sure do enjoy praising this girl of yours with the 3 kids. Hope I find one like that myself.
I have been persuing the nursing student GL knows for a few months now. She is having the first of many I am sure, Thanks GL and I hope to sound like Mort about JYN in Nov.
Happy hunting.
GoodEnough
08-03-10, 23:13
Well WR, as you point out, I'm older, and therefore more crotchety and less charming than you, though far better looking.
I don't go often to Cebu, as you know, so I don't know many of the hotels there, but, as I like my creature comforts, I doubt I would return to the Park Lane. It's certainly not a terrible place...it was clean, it had free Internet, and the rooms, though cheaply furnished, were habitable. I just prefer places with better service, but then as you know, I'm spoiled, fussy, and cantankerous, as well as old. Then too, whenever I go to Cebu I'm there strictly for business and not choice, so I like to have a very comfortable room where I can get some work done.
GE
GE
We will disagree on this but we know each other well and I have posted also on DS Forum
I stay PL all the time when Cebu and never an issue. Had the problems you noted with major chains including Shangri La and Shertons, and maybe just a hiccup thsi time but unfortunate. Marriott is better no doubt but I get a great rate and am happy, staff seem to recognise me etc but I tend not to use much of the facilities except the bedroom :D
And being a very young guy compared with you (LOL) am likely more chilled out and relaxed :D
But your complaints would annoy the crap out of me too so fully understand. As someone said, email Expedia as good it know and you can go on Trip Advisor and do a review (this is an Expedia owned site)
See you soon
Have fun
Stroker Ace88
08-04-10, 00:04
call me a cheap charlie if you want but i was staying with my gf in cebu city last year. she has two kids and needed swim suits and bathing towels for the three of them. she asked for 1000 pesos and went off to colon street returning a couple of hours later with three swim suits, three towels and enough change to get a taxi back to the hotel!
mortman,
like you i hate to over pay for small things so i guess you can also include me in the cheap charlie section as well. last trip i had an amazing 19yr old 5'4 student on my arm and my head was only focused on getting into those jeans. so when she told me she wanted to come back to my hotel and go for a swim but she did not have a bikini, i offered to buy her one. since we were already at sm, i foolishly told her to select what bikini she wanted. turns out she picked a very conservative and outrageously overpriced 3000p speedo brand. when we got to the hotel she told me she was on her monthly so that is why she picked the conservative bikini. *sigh*. she was then put on the back burner until i return since popping a cherry while a girl is on her period is just wrong in so many different ways, but that's just me.
i have only been to colon once to check things out, and i will head back there on my return to pick out a few bikinis, thanks for the tip.
david,
thanks for suggesting metro, i will also check it out.
GregLondon
08-04-10, 01:00
mortman,
like you i hate to over pay for small things so i guess you can also include me in the cheap charlie section as well. last trip i had an amazing 19yr old 5'4 student on my arm and my head was only focused on getting into those jeans. so when she told me she wanted to come back to my hotel and go for a swim but she did not have a bikini, i offered to buy her one. since we were already at sm, i foolishly told her to select what bikini she wanted. turns out she picked a very conservative and outrageously overpriced 3000p speedo brand. when we got to the hotel she told me she was on her monthly so that is why she picked the conservative bikini. *sigh*. she was then put on the back burner until i return since popping a cherry while a girl is on her period is just wrong in so many different ways, but that's just me.
i have only been to colon once to check things out, and i will head back there on my return to pick out a few bikinis, thanks for the tip.
david,
thanks for suggesting metro, i will also check it out.
plenty of bargain shopping in colon but make sure it doesn't turn out into an expensive outing. the place is crawling with thieves, pickpockets and snatchers. 3000p for a bikini is a crazy price esp for a girl who will rarely use it. i had my girls in puerto princesa, palawan buy 5 skimpy but sexy ones plus
send them to me by next day delivery post plus some jollybees for their trouble for 1500 p. having a few handy is a great idea if you are staying somewhere with a pool as girls rarely have swim suits, love having their pics taken and there is usually plenty of scope for a joint shower afterwards.
Rubio Tonto
08-04-10, 07:03
Thanks, Lush. She is gorgeous and has quite a nice set for a pinay! :)
Not going to post the link here, but it's easily found via google.
Wicked Roger
08-04-10, 10:58
Well WR, as you point out, I'm older, and therefore more crotchety and less charming than you, though far better looking.
I don't go often to Cebu, as you know, so I don't know many of the hotels there, but, as I like my creature comforts,
It's certainly not a terrible place...it was clean, it had free Internet, and the rooms, though cheaply furnished, were habitable.
I just prefer places with better service, but then as you know, I'm spoiled, fussy, and cantankerous, as well as old. .
GE
GE
I would agree with what you say...well most of it (you know am the more gwapo :D)).
And i would stay Marriott if on expenses as the Club area is very nice, free food and you could feed yourself happily there if you did not want to venture to the Terraces etc to eat. Not sure if free internet.
Marco Polo is nice but too fsar from town for me
Spoiled, fussy, cantankerous? You? .......see you soon old man :D
GoodEnough
08-04-10, 12:31
I'll probably be remembering the Park Lane tomorrow night with a certain degree of nostalgic fondness, as I contemplate my room at the Garden Orchid Hotel in Zamboanga. Luxury and even comfort are, I guess relative to the situation in which one finds himself. Given that the only edible thing on the menu for me at the Garden Orchid is chop suey, I probably also won't be so quick to condemn the soggy, under cooked monte cristo that I ingested at the Park Lane.
I think, when it comes to travel in the PI, there probably are no absolutes. See you soon WR.
GE
Thanks for the counterpoint, WR. I guess I'm biased in favor of the PI because I lived there 25 years ago (former XO of Clark AB)
A bit off topic. When I was stationed on Okinawa in 1984-86, I got down to Clark AB every chance I could and a again for a month in 1987(wife hunting, btw found a syt from Manila, married over 20 yrs). I was a single TSgt with money to burn so AC was the perfect place. I found Clark well run and efficient. Hated to see it close.
Slim
ParnellCat
08-04-10, 18:10
i've got to agree with good enough's assessment of the parklane.
i wish i'd read his report prior but following all the good mentions here decided to give it a whirl.
first impression of the room was 'what a dump' and it went downhill fast from there.
in rough order, no hot water, toilet didn't flush and other lack of quality issues.
nothing like finishing off a couple of flights with a maintenance guy crawling around in your hotel room while you're in it.
over and over again.
requested new room but told their weren't any until the next day.
then woken up in the morning by people nailing carpets outside.
warning they've got internal maintenance in progress now. which is why somehow they'd unhooked the water to my room.
paid $ 78 i think on expedia but value it at about $35-45 at best solely based on the breakfast buffet i didn't eat.
memo to the parklane, hot water and flushing toilets aren't accessories.
couldn't get out of their fast enough. moved to better hotel for therapeutic value and flushing toilet.
a question, why is toilet paper like gold in the philippines? i always forget when i first arrive to cart a sixpack around for emergencies.
on the positive side, and back on topic for this board decided not to go that first night due to extensive travelling and bad room experience.
put some bait out on dia along the lines of:
badminton instructor.
likes travelling, beaches, farmville, karaoke, endless tv, shopping and helping those in need.
in cebu now. simply simple.
actually the last 2 words i stole off some dia girl's profile.
simply simple. genius! i wish i'd thought of it.
ok so that wasn't the exact profile i used but it could have been as managed an exceptional amount of hits in a short time.
one of the girls who's photo wasn't that flattering started chatting away late at night and i agreed to meet her in the morning.
she turns up at ayala with her cousin who looked like her absolute identical twin sister, both in matching tiny blue denim shorts and black tanktops.
both 18, very, very cute and animated about how some old white guys had been following them through the mall. err i'm an oldish white guy, late 40's, but didn't point that out as we had a long meaningful relationship based on about 6 minutes on dia the night before and 4 txts. but every now and then, the mongering god shines down and this was that time.
hit the department store for matching bikinis etc.
(2 bikinis, a set of 6 pairs of underwear, and 2 lingerie things)
about 2, 800 for the lot.
back to new hotel.
excellent. played in swimming pool, played in room.
so if the parklane hadn't have been such a dump, i wouldn't have stayed in rebooking hotels etc, and wouldn't have chatted on dia and got very, very lucky.
cousins. kissing cousins now.
i've got to admit i like cebu for a change of pace. and pleasant suprises.
but the parklane. really not good.
GoodEnough
08-05-10, 07:40
Parnellcat, thanks for agreeing with me. You're obviously a man of refined tastes, and perhaps WR will now reassess his experiences and apply higher standards in the future.
As advertised, I'm now in the Garden Orchid in Zamboanga, and in comparison with your experience at the Park Lane, this place is better: there's hot water and the toilet does work. The food though remains inedible, but at least there's the Japanese place on the ground level that has food I can actually swallow.
The one thing--perhaps the only thing--that Cebu has over Davao is that there are more high quality restaurants, though with the opening of the new Ayala Center in Davao, this too could change. I heard today that a new Marriott Hotel is part of the Ayala Center, so the number of five stars in town will increase from one (the Marco Polo) to two.
GE
Wicked Roger
08-05-10, 13:55
Parnellcat, thanks for agreeing with me. You're obviously a man of refined tastes, and perhaps WR will now reassess his experiences and apply higher standards in the future.
The one thing--perhaps the only thing--that Cebu has over Davao is that there are more high quality restaurants, though with the opening of the new Ayala Center in Davao, this too could change. I heard today that a new Marriott Hotel is part of the Ayala Center, so the number of five stars in town will increase from one (the Marco Polo) to two.
GE
LOL GE
We are both stubborn old dogs...well you are a pensioner not a young pup like me.....
PL is a good place and will stay there again..and again...maybe they saw you two guys and thoiught such unrefined gents should be persuaded to stay elsewhere....or they realised you were mates of WR and thought "no more of that sort of kinky man in our hotel"
Either way PL is VFM for me as Marriott while very nice and better is expensive. Issue for me in Cebu is lack of quality of choice of hotels. Mango park is fine if on budget (1200-1400 pesos a night net net) but the internet sucks badly and I need a good (and hoepfully free as in PL) connection due to work, have no choice as you know. The extra I pay at Marriott can be spent on more owrthwhile 'pursiuts'...and I like to see the PL security face as Cebu fav walks through door in morning in school uniform :D..and see another Cebuana in a different uniform wlak back at noon for special education :)
If Marriott charged 2800 pesos a night net net, trust me I would be there and my pocket would be happy. Used to stay there but hotel ahs gor greedy
My standards dropped a long time ago GE (except pussy as you would hopefully agree)...but there are other things that have likely dropped on you :D
Enjoy Zambo...and lets hope BBM works tomororw...rumour now is just BBM not BB...but we will see
Starchild2012
08-05-10, 15:27
Howdy gentlemen....I'm back :) a.k.a born loser 5..last three months were horrible back home in India...will start the new innings from Cebu this time....cant wait to get back to the paradise hehehe :)
Wicked Roger
08-05-10, 18:57
Howdy gentlemen....I'm back :) a.k.a born loser 5..last three months were horrible back home in India...will start the new innings from Cebu this time....cant wait to get back to the paradise hehehe :)
Welcome back SC / BL5
Enjoy and hopefully if you are in Cebu when I get there next month we can catch a beer or two
Dark Vader
08-05-10, 21:19
With rather unfortunate timing, so it seems, I made a booking (via Expedia) last week to stay in this "fine" establishment next month just before GE's rather damning verdict.
I'm now having second thoughts ..
Bonkers Tokyo
08-06-10, 03:00
With rather unfortunate timing, so it seems, I made a booking (via Expedia) last week to stay in this "fine" establishment next month just before GE's rather damning verdict.
I'm now having second thoughts ..I'm booked in there for two weeks as well next month. Hmmmmm.
Sir Van Koff
08-06-10, 04:58
With rather unfortunate timing, so it seems, I made a booking (via Expedia) last week to stay in this "fine" establishment next month just before GE's rather damning verdict.
I'm now having second thoughts ..In the same boat here. Booked for 8 nights on Agoda for $72 Nett. Girl I met on DIA (smart, educated, hi-so civil servant) says bad idea. Apparently there are 2 construction sites working 3 shifts a day around it. I'm planning to amend my reservation to 1 night, go to Bohol for 2 (with her), come back and stay at the Marriott. Another DIA girl says she can get good prices and not to worry about internet rate ;)
Oh, how I love DIA!!
Wicked Roger
08-06-10, 05:50
With rather unfortunate timing, so it seems, I made a booking (via Expedia) last week to stay in this "fine" establishment next month just before GE's rather damning verdict.
I'm now having second thoughts ..
Oh dear LOL
If any comfort, GE is a very fussy pensioner who has to be helped from the taxi and escorted to his room by wheelchair :D...
Seriously I have made 3 advanced bookings for the rest of the year. Issue for you is where else to go if you are paying yourself. Hotels of same standard close to Ayala etc can be hard to find. Other are smaller, not as nice, wifi is not free...all sorts.
If your company is paying stay at the Marriott or go further away from Cebu City to Mactan and the resorts there...all very nice but all very expensive IMHO...and you cant walk to Ayala Terraces and sit and enjoy the 'views'
Last time I was at a resort, it was an hour to the PL ..but that was 6.30am in the morning and we had to get back so my lady could get to school
Ask for an even numbered room as well as on the quieter side of the hotel (is not facing the main roads)
Gogobarlover
08-06-10, 09:24
I don't know why some of you complain about Parklane. I had no problems with the toilet flushing, It flushed good and had no problems with hot water also. My other friends had no complaints about it either. Each hotel has a certain drawback about them. If you stay at a 3 star hotel like Beverly Boutique on F. Manalo Street, you will see a big difference between this hotel and Parklane. I guess some of you have high standards and never experienced the poor life. My friend who has never been to Philippines before did not come out and say: "Parklane is a dump, why did you book this hotel?" He actually said it was a nice upgrade coming from Diplomat hotel on F. Ramos Rd. Maybe you guys are use to staying at hotels that are really clean or 5 star hotels. PI standards may not up to par from where you came from. But, just be lucky you're not sleeping on the side of the street like some of the local people in Cebu.
If Parklane isn't so good, what would be a good alternative hotel that has in-room safe, mini bar, internet in the room (that's good and not dirt slow), pool, gym, jaccuzi and is in a decent area close to a main mall at a price that is the same rate as Parklane? Marriott? I wouldn't pay more to stay there. Like WR mentioned earlier, I rather save the cost on the hotel and use it for BF or other things. I stayed at 3 star hotels and still had fun regardless. If there's a bed, water and roof over my head, I'm good.
Speaking of construction sites. The Hotel Elizabeth looks like it will open soon in the area between AYala Mall and the St. Moritz Hotel / bar (most undereported go go bar in Cebu by my reckoning).
And the long empty site near SM is also looking to open. I wonder if we will see a drop in hotel prices as all these rooms hit the market?
Hotel E and E mall seem to have a connection. Apparently Elizabeth is the wife of someone connected to USC.
X
In the same boat here. Booked for 8 nights on Agoda for $72 Nett. Girl I met on DIA (smart, educated, hi-so civil servant) says bad idea. Apparently there are 2 construction sites working 3 shifts a day around it. I'm planning to amend my reservation to 1 night, go to Bohol for 2 (with her), come back and stay at the Marriott. Another DIA girl says she can get good prices and not to worry about internet rate ;)
Oh, how I love DIA!!
Wicked Roger
08-06-10, 14:15
I don't know why some of you complain about Parklane. I had no problems with the toilet flushing, It flushed good and had no problems with hot water also. My other friends had no complaints about it either. Each hotel has a certain drawback about them. If you stay at a 3 star hotel like Beverly Boutique on F. Manalo Street, you will see a big difference between this hotel and Parklane. I guess some of you have high standards and never experienced the poor life. My friend who has never been to Philippines before did not come out and say: "Parklane is a dump, why did you book this hotel?" He actually said it was a nice upgrade coming from Diplomat hotel on F. Ramos Rd. Maybe you guys are use to staying at hotels that are really clean or 5 star hotels. PI standards may not up to par from where you came from. But, just be lucky you're not sleeping on the side of the street like some of the local people in Cebu.
If Parklane isn't so good, what would be a good alternative hotel that has in-room safe, mini bar, internet in the room (that's good and not dirt slow), pool, gym, jaccuzi and is in a decent area close to a main mall at a price that is the same rate as Parklane? Marriott? I wouldn't pay more to stay there. Like WR mentioned earlier, I rather save the cost on the hotel and use it for BF or other things. I stayed at 3 star hotels and still had fun regardless. If there's a bed, water and roof over my head, I'm good.
Well said GG
As for construction...well there is a building there but there is no real activity and this has been the case for a long long time, so it is quiet. The road is busy as it is central city
As I said, ask for an even numbered room as this is the quiet, pool facing side and you will hear little unless there is a tropical down pour and thunder..and maybe other monger shagging the girls silly :D
Limited choice if you like 4 star hotels unfortunately
I stay (for work purposes ie I am not paying) in Four Seasons, Shangri La, InterCons, Sheraton and Hiltons all the time and PL while not the same standard is not bad. Everything works, wifi is free, nice lattes from BeanDate downstairs, walk to Ayala, umbrellas when is pours...and a nice bed
So stop worrying in advance as for 2800 pesos (roughly $60 I think) a night is not bad especially when am paying myself and I have yet to find better at that price. As GG says you can find cheaper but will get the same standard.
Or try Marco Polo in the hills...but a long way from the centre IMHO. Or the resort areas as all are very nice but agin far away.
Admittedly Cebu lacks decent competiton in the mid star hotel chains (eg Accor group Ibis/Novotel, Marriott Courtyard etc) and until that changes we mongers have limited choice
But all these issues disappear when you go Ayala first day, see the Cebuanas, maybe be approached (as I was last trip) and have fun :D
Am there next month and month after and month after...always PL
ParnellCat
08-06-10, 15:07
Well good to see some passionate defense of the Parklane. But I think a consideration is The Parklane is doing internal renovations right now.
And I've learn't one thing no matter what budget the hotel is, its no fun being in a hotel that's renovating itself around you. Especially in Asia. Being woken up with people using powertools and hammering away at 8. 00am then continuing all day.
Don't believe me, ask someone there now to go up to 9th floor and the 15th I think and you'll see big signs saying Sorry for the Inconvenience.
Thats a fact.
Anybody there now, check it out.
I've lived in Asia about 8 years and have a pretty high tolerance for most ineptitude.
My advice would be to at least check when the renovations are finished.
There were other people complaining when I checked out.
But I do agree with WR that Cebu doesn't have a whole bunch of choices.
For a cheaper option I think the Cebu Grande offers better value and more comfort than the Parklane. Around $38 I think.
But the locations, breakfast etc is not so good.
So its always trading off one thing for another.
Marriots about $97, but then you've got to add in breakfast and they rob you 650 per day for internet.
Some people like the Marco Polo but it can take an hour or so at peak hour there to Ayalla so I don't like the location.
But as this is a forum hopefully providing up to date information for people to make choices, my advice is simply to check with the Parklane about their renovations.
Member #4351
08-06-10, 15:39
Remember that the Raddisson is opening next month next to SM mall. They seem to be stealing some of the Marriottīs best people, so it might be a good alternative. During my Oct. trip, I`ll check it out as an option for future trips.
Wicked Roger
08-06-10, 15:59
Remember that the Raddisson is opening next month next to SM mall. They seem to be stealing some of the Marriottīs best people, so it might be a good alternative. During my Oct. trip, I`ll check it out as an option for future trips.
Good point D33 and maybe have a few promo offers but not sure if will be for the budget concious traveller. But worth a look
http://www.radisson.com/cebucityphl
Say Septemeber here but soft opening may give betetr prices. But if chasing the Marriott crowd still too pricey for me as I am paying :). And I am fond of Ayala Terraces....:)
Stroker Ace88
08-06-10, 17:24
Remember that the Raddisson is opening next month next to SM mall. They seem to be stealing some of the Marriottīs best people, so it might be a good alternative. During my Oct. trip, I`ll check it out as an option for future trips.
David,
Do not bet on this hotel opening next month. There was a severe structural problem with the hotel when it was first constructed and has sat empty since at least 2008. The superstructure was supposed to be refitted and redesigned and work on the Radisson Cebu hotel is still ongoing. Radisson has released several notices in the past few years about impending opening dates, and every one has come and gone with no real progress. I will believe it when I see that big blue metal fence that surounds the property come down.
I have also heard from a few locals that the hotel did not want to give any payoff money to certain city officials and the management was waiting for the local elections to see if they could deal with someone new to obtain the proper permits.
I look forward to the day they open and my first stay at the Radisson Cebu, and with the addition of 400 new hotel rooms in Cebu hopefully that will help to increase pressure on other hotels to lower the over inflated prices.
http://archives.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/sm-hotel-open-soon
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=542016&publicationSubCategoryId=108
Member #4351
08-06-10, 17:31
Interesting articles, thanks. I got a mail from one of my favorite Marriott Employees who knew that I would be arriving in Oct. She said that I wouldnīt be seeing her in the hotel since she would be working in the Raddisson beginning sometime in September. It will be interesting to see what happens.
I will simply say I liked the Parklane and did not experience any problems whatever. Would stay there again without hesitation.
GoodEnough
08-06-10, 23:16
I didn't realize that my simple hotel review would spark such an extensive debate and I would like to clarify some of the points I tried to make.
First, the PL is not a terrible place: it's clean, the Internet connection works well (or did for me), and it's not shabby. Hell, compared to the limited range of choices in Cotabato where I have, unfortunately, to stay from time to time, it's a palace.
The standard of comparison that I used, was a five star hotel, and perhaps this wasn't an appropriate standard. I do not know Cebu well, don't like the city very much, and don't go there often. On prior trips I've stayed at the Marriott and that was, I suppose the standard I was using. Though the quality of service and the amenities in the room at the PL were not nearly as good as the Marriott, neither were they so terrible as to make the place unlivable, and I fully understand why people coming to Cebu for vacation, and thus paying out of their own resources, would choose to stay there. I might as well if I was in that situation.
For those guys who have made advance reservations at the PL and who are now reconsidering due to my report, I don't think you have to worry about changing your plans. As WR said, I'm old, fussy, and impatient. Plus, I was there on business, on a fairly tight schedule, and didn't have a lot of time to waste sorting out the check-in and check-out procedures.
Given the apparently narrow range of choice in the mid-price hotel selections, this may actually represent fairly good value at about $70 with taxes. For those to made reservations through one of the on-line services such as expedia, remember to print out a copy of your confirmation and reservation as the desk will demand it during check-in. I've never had that happen before, so had to dig through my briefcase to find it.
I should also add that I stayed on the 16th floor, and it was not at all noisy. In fact, with a room facing the pool, it was extremely quiet.
The bottom line, I guess, is that if cost is not a factor in considering where to stay, and you want the highest possible quality of service and comfort, don't stay there. But if cost is an important consideration, and you're looking for a clean, decent place albeit with slow and somewhat incompetent service, then this is not a bad alternative.
GE
Irony Monger
08-07-10, 04:46
i'd like to followup on my brief parklane statement in ds's forum. as i said earlier, i did not like the parklane room which i had booked online, and upgraded to the boutique room. this is basically a mini suite with a large bed...room enough for 4 :-), a nice bathroom with a large tub, and a separate area with a work desk with wired internet (in addition to the hotel wireless).
in my post i said it cost $15 to upgrade. that was wrong. it was 1500 pesos per day to upgrade, or about $33. since i booked the parklane room online for $70, the total came to about $103...which is a bit on the high end. however, the boutique room was larger than what i would have gotten at the marriott for $97, and the internet was free. note, upgrading at the front desk while checking in was quite a bit cheaper than booking the boutique room online, which would have been about $160, so i considered it a good deal.
i was working while there, and the work area was convenient and the internet speed was sufficient for skype voice calls, which was good.
i had a similar check-in experience to ge, but was not in a rush at the time so it was no big deal for me...after dealing with late planes and boats that never showed up, having to wait a while to upgrade my room was not big deal. room service, however, can be very slow...i would not recommend ordering food from your room if you are already hungry.
would i stay there again? most likely yes, but i will probably try other hotels in the area next time just to compare (this was my first time in cebu).
Starchild2012
08-07-10, 05:55
Dark Vader,
I been following your experience in FKK and swinger clubs in Germany with interest...your posts was that made me think about making a trip to Germany if i get a visa before i go to Cebu. Some of the post that you made are legendary which a every man desires ;)
It would be interesting to know how you compare Cebu/PH with FKK/German scene...I'm really torn apart between the two...
I think PL hotel will have no issues...don't worry...you will enjoy your stay in Cebu
Waiting for your adventures in this side of the planet :)
Good Luck...
Wicked Roger
08-07-10, 18:26
Hey guys,
Maybe Im mixing some of the information up but I was reading another site with information about girls and Cebu in general. The site mentions the Kiwi Lodge goes for about P990 yet when I go to the online page for Kiwi Im not seeing anything cheaper than P1374. Im wondering if this is about the best rate for this time of year/next week? All I want is a very basic place really.
Ill look back through the threads to see the discussions on accommodations. Im coming in on a later flight in the middle of next week and it sounds like the taxi drivers there know most of these hotels.
Sorry this is such a newb question!
Thanks for any info see you next week!
Not sure about the rate but long time ago I looked at Kiwi Lodge (was a newbie to Cebu) and was told by management that was not that GF (I emailed them a specifi question)..not sure now but book a room double occupancy. Wifi/Internet connections were a problem also.
Why not try Mango Park or Eddies or the Diplomat which should roughly in the same range
Gogobarlover
08-08-10, 01:07
Not sure about the rate but long time ago I looked at Kiwi Lodge (was a newbie to Cebu) and was told by management that was not that GF (I emailed them a specifi question)..not sure now but book a room double occupancy. Wifi/Internet connections were a problem also.
Why not try Mango Park or Eddies or the Diplomat which should roughly in the same range
Personally, I would do Diplomat. It's cheap. $19-$25/night and the rooms are clean for the price. I liked Eddies (now called Beverly Boutique Hotel) for its close location to Mango Square but, the rooms aren't as good as Diplomat. It's small and there is no in-room safe and mini bar. Plus, the restaurant is small with very limited selection on the menu. See my 4116 posting on Diplomat hotel.
As far as Kiwi Lodge, it's just out of the way for you to walk to a mall or gogo bar. Diplomat hotel is not that far walk to Raintree Mall, Robinson Mall and the gogo bars on Mango Ave. I normally walk it during the day and night. Now, if I bring a girl back to Diplomat, I wouldn't have her walk with me late at night back to Diplomat. If you BF a girl from one of the bars on Mango, just catch a taxi. It should come out to 37 pesos. If they charge you more than this, they are overcharging you. Yes, Diplomat Hotel is girl friendly. No problem having them stay overnight as well.
Hey guys,
Maybe Im mixing some of the information up but I was reading another site with information about girls and Cebu in general. The site mentions the Kiwi Lodge goes for about P990 yet when I go to the online page for Kiwi Im not seeing anything cheaper than P1374. Im wondering if this is about the best rate for this time of year/next week? All I want is a very basic place really.
Ill look back through the threads to see the discussions on accommodations. Im coming in on a later flight in the middle of next week and it sounds like the taxi drivers there know most of these hotels.
Sorry this is such a newb question!
Thanks for any info see you next week!
Personally I would avoid Kiwi, its in an out of the way place and it is hard to get a taxi, if none are out front you have to walk out in a rather rough area to hail a cab sometimes.
If you are looking for economy why not try Castle Peak or Northwinds, the latter is within walking distance of the Sunflower disco.
Spam hog
Gogobarlover
08-08-10, 05:43
Personally I would avoid Kiwi, its in an out of the way place and it is hard to get a taxi, if none are out front you have to walk out in a rather rough area to hail a cab sometimes.
If you are looking for economy why not try Castle Peak or Northwinds, the latter is within walking distance of the Sunflower disco.
Spam hog
Castle Peak is in area nowhere near a mall or gogo bars. You will have to take a taxi to Ayala mall as the walking distance is just too far to bother walking. Plus, I believe they have no in room safe as well.
Cebu Northwinds is close to Sunflower Disco but, it is nowhere near any gogo bars if you plan to go to those places. I don't think they offer an in room safe as well but, safety deposit box at the front desk. I read that someones wallet and money were taken from the safety deposit box at this hotel.
J Smith 5023
08-08-10, 14:58
Went and visited the new gogobar on Mango, red lips.
I must say, I like that place very much.
When I was last in Cebu, a lady who I met at a coffee shop in a mall convinced me to go with her to a dance club (not go-go but formal, 50's style athletic dancing, she called it a Jazz Club). It was a small club with a very professional show and talented customers showing off. I felt strong echos of the Moulin Rouge. You can bet I stayed seated! Can anyone ID this place?
It is within a mile or so of the Parklane, away from downtown.
(ISG content) If you dance with the stars, you should score here.
Orchard Hotel can any one give me the low down on this hotel Please.
Dark Vader
08-08-10, 19:28
Thanks for all the feedback and clarification on the Parklane. It sounds like it should be OK and in all fairness I stayed in Eddies on the only previous occasion I visited Cebu and so I should cope.
Judging by all of the forum members who look to be staying there Ill probably find myself in the midst of a mongers convention and so I should feel right at home - LOL
I have recently stayed in Eddie's and Mango Park. Both are gf. Staff do not bat an eyelid when you walk a stream of girls through the lobbies during the day.
The deluxe rooms at Eddies are accessible from the side entrance, so there is no need to bring your lady through the lobby if you are a bit sensitive.
Also, deluxe rooms have 2 beds, bigger space, and refridgerator.
An interesting place I discovered is the Mercedes hotel, which is pretty seedy, in the Colon area of town. But my mate was staying in one of the two penthouses. It was great. Very large, immaculately clean, everything worked - it has not been worn out. bedroom big enoughto play football. Sala/lounge is large, with bar, kitchenette. We ate room service which was relatively cheap and tasted good.
A kind of jewel in the rough.
Gangles
Gentlemen,
Does anyone know if there is any store in Cebu where I can buy some sex toys?
Or is it strictly BYO?
Gangles
Dark Vader
08-09-10, 07:59
Dark Vader,
I been following your experience in FKK and swinger clubs in Germany with interest...your posts was that made me think about making a trip to Germany if i get a visa before i go to Cebu. Some of the post that you made are legendary which a every man desires ;) Heh SC (BL5),
Glad youve enjoyed my German posts Ive loved doing the field research! ;)
I have to say that Ive also liked reading your posts and have found many of them quite illuminating but anyway enough of this mutual back slapping and on to a more substantive matters and the perennial debate as to what is the best mongering area of the world
It would be interesting to know how you compare Cebu/PH with FKK/German scene...I'm really torn apart between the two...As a veteran of two previous trips to PH and one to Cebu I have to say that you cant really compare the two destinations because they are quite different.
Putting aside the obvious things like language, cost, weather and the nationality and body types of the women that youre likely to encounter I guess the primary difference is just the sheer variety of sex venues that Germany affords all organised with typical Teutonic efficiency and with far fewer concerns around safety or scams.
Fans of public sex will be in heaven in Germany what with the swinger clubs, partyreffs, sex cinemas etc.
FKKs must be one of the marvels of the modern world and a true mongers paradise! The sight of all of these beautiful ladies wandering around naked and knowing that you can shag any of them for 50 is truly mouth-watering.
No doubt about it Germany is definitely one of the foremost sex destinations in the world and so if you get the chance you should definitely visit because as the saying goes variety is the spice of life!
What I like about PH is the Filipino women, the attitude of the girls eg. far easier to get a real GFE, the cost (I like doing LT and hiring an escort for the night in the West can get prohibitive) and of course the opportunity of combining mongering with tourism.
Waiting for your adventures in this side of the planetAs I said, I actually made my maiden visit to Cebu last year, however, I didnt report partly out of laziness and partly as I didnt really have anything new to impart that would have added to the collective wisdom of the group.
That said, I did have a funny experience on the last day of my trip...
It was my last night and Id decided to go out with a bang and so early on in the evening I barfined a couple of girls from Sisters and taken them bar hopping around the clubs. This turned out to be a mixed blessing because whilst one of them was being sensible with her drinks the other was getting slowly more intoxicated. Id seen the signs early on the evening and so was trying to slow her down and switching her to soft drinks but unbeknown to me she was still getting the bar staff to give her alcohol when my back was turned.
Anyways we get back to Eddies and of course the girl whod been on the lash didnt want to live up to her side of the bargain and so after a brief contretemps there was nothing for it but to kick her out. I was a little worried about how this would affect her friend but she said that she was OK with it. Unfortunately it didnt turn out to be the best of experiences as she proved to be a cold fish and after one highly unsatisfactory pop she wanted to do a runner and even had the temerity to ask for a tip! So much for my plan of wanting to spend my last night sleeping between two babes.
Well no way was I going to spend my last night sleeping alone and so nothing for it but to dress up and go out again. The bars were all closed by now and so I strolled down to Julianas. Id not been there before and to be honest I wished Id gone there earlier on in the week.
I was just strolling around getting acquainted with the place and getting a few interested glances when much to my shock the girl that Id thrown out earlier spotted me and rushed up to me and threw her arms around me! I was taken aback and a bit unsure about how to react. Obviously I was wary about hooking up with again but on the other hand Id gotten to know her quite well over the course of the evening and she seemed to have sobered up now and as she was all over me I would have been a real cad to have cast her off again so somewhat against my better judgement I decided to give her another chance.
She was naturally upset that Id thrown her out earlier and insisted that she hadnt been drunk. Hmm Ive heard that before.
After spending some time at the disco we eventually went back again to Eddies and I got a slightly bemused look from the foxy looking receptionist who worked the night shift. Shed got used to my ways over the course of the week what with the motley crew of bed-time companions that Id brought back but even she did a double take on this occasion as she clearly recognised the girl as being the same one who Id thrown out earlier.
Anyway hooking up with the girl again turned out to be a VERY good move and she gave me one of the wildest nights I had on the trip. After tiring me out she was still gagging for more and so had to manage with the Rabbit that I'd brought along for the ride - Gotta luv Phili :)
DV
Wicked Roger
08-09-10, 13:46
Gentlemen,
Does anyone know if there is any store in Cebu where I can buy some sex toys?
Or is it strictly BYO?
Gangles
To my knowlegde none but then I always BYO as you know.
In AC there is a shop I know and was some place in Greenbelt (Makati) but I tend to buy from UK or have them sent from a web site to the hotel...that reminds me I need to order another small vibe.....
Did that with some nice bondage BDSM gear a while back
Have fun G and safe travels, sent you text also
Member #4351
08-09-10, 16:07
There are some expensive sex toys hidden away in the changing rooms of one of the little mini malls inside Ayala Mall where they sell knock off clothes. It is on the first or second level I think, on the right side entering from the Terraces where Gellatisimo is. On the other side is a furniture store.
Went and visited the new gogobar on Mango, red lips.
I must say, I like that place very much.I just got text the same thing from a **** friend in Cebu. Can't wait 39 days and counting.
Wicked Roger
08-10-10, 10:20
OK mongers
I called up th Radisson in Cebu...is going through its pre opening checks etc.
Spoke a lovely lady in the reservations department and got the following:
Opens 27 September, deluxe room (ie entry level to hotel) is 7500 PHP, free internet wifi etc. Add an extra 1000 PHP for an executive room that effectively gives you access to the 'club area' (or whatever Radisson call it)
Now, the above rates are clearly rack rates and she is trained to state them so I would look at the various web sites we all use and check Radisson's own web site (posted earlier) for deals as I am sure there will be some.
The rate quoted is in excess of the Marriott when Cebu really needs some good 3/4 star hotels IMHO
I also asked if there was a 'soft opening" (where normally rates are lower) to which the reply was "it will be a grand opening"......we will see as most hotels open soft to make sure all / any glitches are ironed out....example The Atlantis Dubai opening was a disaster given that many had been double booked etc(google it)...so perhaps Radisson will soften the rates...I hope so as would be nice to try as long as it is VFM...for me $60 at Parklane is VFM (as I am paying) but for othrs it is a tad expensive.e
Maybe stay there the last night and see how it compares
Gogobarlover
08-10-10, 11:27
The Diplomat appears to be booked - everything.
Out of necessity and not knowing the area I booked at Kiwi for a few days. Does anyone know for certain if it is GF or not?
I guess I may be looking for alternatives over the early part of this visit?
Thanks again guys.
EJ
Are you sure diplomat is fully booked? Try Agoda.com
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/diplomat_hotel.html
Kiwi Lodge is girl friendly. Others on here have stayed at Kiwi and it's GF.
I am here for 6-7 days and room is great.comparable to USA Marriott Hotels. Service is good. Security is good.
Room has all of the amenities plus very nice Digital TV.
Price $90/night AAA rate
Front desk tried to sell me $30 breakfast a day which is p800/day cash.
They have dinner buffet p750
Next to Ayala Mall and very nice connection.
Internet is not free. But mall has free WiFi.
Last night I flew from Clark to Cebu.
Price was $77 with a last minute purchase.
Airline is nice and clean. Very nice staff. Plane is clean. Seats are little bit tight.
You can fly with this airline with no issues.
I was chatting with this girl in DIA and he offered to come to my room. Marriott did not give any hassle. She was 9/10. Couple of piercing and tattoos (I don't like them). 3 rounds. Apparently she works in Mermaids. 5'0". 95lbs. Spinner. I don't know what kind of a club it is but I assume it is adult oriented. I did not take any pictures.
Are you sure diplomat is fully booked?
I phoned the Diplomat the last week of July and inquired about rooms. They said they had plenty of rooms available so I didn't bother making a reservation. I arrived on Aug. 1 and they were full up. I had to swing over to the Mango Park and stay there for 2 nights while something opened up at the Diplomat. The word must be out that they're a good deal for the money.
The Diplomat was 1,038p a night for a standard room while Mango Park was 1500p. Mango Park is much older and also a tad drab. For my money the Diplomat is much better. The only thing better about MPark is they have a pool, but even that is quite small and looked a little dodgy.
By the way, the only difference between a standard and a superior room at the Diplomat is the floor its on, and of course the price (1360 p for a superior room). I got a superior room this time and it was exactly the same as the standard room I was in last April. Also, they give a nice 20% discount for a monthly rental if you pay cash up front.
Bopalula
Starchild2012
08-10-10, 15:06
Heh SC (BL5),
Glad youve enjoyed my German posts Ive loved doing the field research! ;)
Man, I just can't wait to get to FKK's . Its every mongers dream :). I tried to go couple of years back...but as I'm from India...they thought i would be a potential immigrant, this time, if i don't get in from Germany, i'm planning to go through Czech republic or any other Schengen countries till i get a visa :)
Yep, Filipinas are one of a kind. They are a different breed. They know how to treat a man. :). Have you tried Dateinasia.com site, there are plenty of regular girls who are very friendly and would do anything to make you happy without expecting much in return. They are game for a good time.
Anyways, no girls are free lunch, we spend, but i never had any bad moments with regular girls. If you plan to stay in Cebu for a month or two....try dating sites, get some numbers and meet up...you will really have amazing times with them.
If possible try Arena and Jaguar bars in Cebu, they are on the expensive side, but the girls are the best in Cebu...model types...You can also get some Korean girls...ask the mamasan...you can also hook up with bar girls in Juliana after 3 AM. Don't pay bar fine there, its around 4 to 6k..ask their numbers and agree for a late meet up in Juliana or any other place.
Good Luck DV....have a great trip to Cebu.
Gogobarlover
08-10-10, 20:48
Last night I flew from Clark to Cebu.
Price was $77 with a last minute purchase.
Airline is nice and clean. Very nice staff. Plane is clean. Seats are little bit tight.
You can fly with this airline with no issues.
Cebu Pacific is not bad. Some people have complained about it being delayed but, I have yet to experience any delays. They use to not charge for the snacks on the plane but, now you do have to pay. The thing you have to know though is that Cebu Pacific max weight is 33lbs(15kg) on the luggage. If you exceed the weight, they will charge 100 pesos per kg which is over $2 per 2.2lbs of excess weight. If you book online, they have an option to allow you to pay for additional weight on the luggage. I think it was $9-$10 for an additional 15lbs more. This would still be cheaper than paying 100 pesos/kg. So, if you know your luggage will weigh more than 50lbs (22.7kg) then you should consider it.
Cebu Pacific is not bad. Some people have complained about it being delayed but, I have yet to experience any delays. They use to not charge for the snacks on the plane but, now you do have to pay. The thing you have to know though is that Cebu Pacific max weight is 33lbs(15kg) on the luggage. If you exceed the weight, they will charge 100 pesos per kg which is over $2 per 2.2lbs of excess weight. If you book online, they have an option to allow you to pay for additional weight on the luggage. I think it was $9-$10 for an additional 15lbs more. This would still be cheaper than paying 100 pesos/kg. So, if you know your luggage will weigh more than 50lbs (22.7kg) then you should consider it.
It was April a couple of years ago and Thai Internatioanal flight to BKK was overbooked due to a fair in Manila.
I tried to book on Cebu Pacific online but my credit cards wouldn't go through. I later found out that the airline was banned from many major credit cards due to some employee fraud. Anyway I called from Angeles City their call center and made a same day booking on MNL-BKK fkight for about 180 euros using one of my credit cards.
At the airport I was given finally a seat on Thai leaving about an hour earlier without bothering to cancell my flight with Cebu Pacific.
After the no show charges they were supposed to credit my account with 120 euros. It took them one year and two e-mails and three telephone calls from me in order to do it.
They keep sending me advance info for their sales and I might use them in the future. For the time being I am using Airasia. Very well organised but they only fly to AC from Kuala Lumpur.
Girl I met on DIA (smart, educated, hi-so civil servant) says bad idea. Apparently there are 2 construction sites working 3 shifts a day around it.
My real estate agent also echoed that Parklane is very noisy both inside and out at the moment. If you sleep in or are a light sleeper, it should be avoided. Nobody here has yet to recommend Crown Regency which is in the same category and a bit cheaper via online websites.
Don't see what all the hemming and hawing is concerning accommodations in Cebu. The city is loaded with good places to stay in great locations. It is high time to start a 'Cebu Hotels' thread to alleviate all the hotel chatter.
Speaking of construction sites. The Hotel Elizabeth looks like it will open soon in the area between AYala Mall and the St. Moritz Hotel / bar (most undereported go go bar in Cebu by my reckoning).
Have to agree that St. Moritz is a gem that gets no props here! Only a few minute walk from Ayala Center, it is a very clean, well run German owned hotel with rooms around 2000 php. (Dark Vader take note)
Orchard Hotel can any one give me the low down on this hotel Please.Have never stayed at the Orchard but have passed this hotel hundreds of times. It is located near the brewery in Mandaue on one of the main thoroughfares. Very active area with plenty of great restos and bars in the area.
Stroker Ace88
08-10-10, 23:53
Cebu Pacific is not bad. Some people have complained about it being delayed but, I have yet to experience any delays. They use to not charge for the snacks on the plane but, now you do have to pay. The thing you have to know though is that Cebu Pacific max weight is 33lbs(15kg) on the luggage. If you exceed the weight, they will charge 100 pesos per kg which is over $2 per 2.2lbs of excess weight. If you book online, they have an option to allow you to pay for additional weight on the luggage. I think it was $9-$10 for an additional 15lbs more. This would still be cheaper than paying 100 pesos/kg. So, if you know your luggage will weigh more than 50lbs (22.7kg) then you should consider it.
GGBL,
Philippine Airlines and Cebu Pacific both offer several different price levels and seat options. Check the fare rules closely for the baggage allowance on each ticket before you book. Sometimes the mid-level ticket is only a few hundred Pesos more but it gives you an additional 5kg baggage allowance.
Also on smaller routes such as Cebu-Ozamiz or Cebu-CDO the airlines mostly use smaller Q400 turbo-prop planes and they make sure to weigh everything including each pax and you will be charged for additional baggage weight.
IMHO do not purchase the extra baggage allowance online, it's pretty much a waste. I have been lucky a few times when I flirted with the check-in attendant on the Manila-Cebu flights and she must have thought I was a handsum man and did not charge me for the extra weight. :D
Stroker Ace88
08-11-10, 00:00
Nobody here has yet to recommend Crown Regency which is in the same category and a bit cheaper via online websites.
Mattrick,
Shhhhhhhhh, I have been trying to keep the CR Fuente all to myself. ;)
When I was last in Cebu, a lady who I met at a coffee shop in a mall convinced me to go with her to a dance club (not go-go but formal, 50's style athletic dancing, she called it a Jazz Club). It was a small club with a very professional show and talented customers showing off. I felt strong echos of the Moulin Rouge. You can bet I stayed seated! Can anyone ID this place?
Sounds like you are talking about the Jazz & Blues Club. It is a small, intimate, nicely appointed place that also serves food. Their house band is pleasant enough, not too loud and plays a good variety of music. They employ a few 'professional' dancers both men and women that motivate the patrons and also act as dance partners. Wanted to test my dancing skills last time I was there but my 'date' stayed glued to her seat after seeing the level of expertise exhibited on the dance floor!
Sounds like you are talking about the Jazz & Blues Club. It is a small, intimate, nicely appointed place that also serves food. Their house band is pleasant enough, not too loud and plays a good variety of music. They employ a few 'professional' dancers both men and women that motivate the patrons and also act as dance partners. Wanted to test my dancing skills last time I was there but my 'date' stayed glued to her seat after seeing the level of expertise exhibited on the dance floor!Yeah, great place, very good service.
Tight live band.
If you've got game, not shy.Take a lesson for 200p?
Different way to meet young ladies.
All dressed to the nines.
I hung there twice --first time so much fun, needed see if i was dreaming next time.
Two years ago, not expensive, the tab both nights was 2-3 k for four.
Had a girl, so didn't pick-up, but just alittle game would give a LT.
Cabs know the place.
That's how i found it, told the driver, "take me to the Jazz club!"
And he did.
R
This will be my 3rd journey to Cebu in two years and I usually work the DIA girls and end up with more GFs than I can handle. Not shy about going for both quantity and quality. YNOT. LOL
This trip. I'm looking for an apartment or condo, if any fellow mongers have contacts or experiences, please PM me. I'll be in Cebu the month of September.
Plus, anyone for a cleansing ale. Let me know.
Cheapy
Wicked Roger
08-11-10, 07:40
My real estate agent also echoed that Parklane is very noisy both inside and out at the moment. If you sleep in or are a light sleeper, it should be avoided. Nobody here has yet to recommend Crown Regency which is in the same category and a bit cheaper via online websites.
Don't see what all the hemming and hawing is concerning accommodations in Cebu. The city is loaded with good places to stay in great locations. It is high time to start a 'Cebu Hotels' thread to alleviate all the hotel chatter.
Have to agree that St. Moritz is a gem that gets no props here! Only a few minute walk from Ayala Center, it is a very clean, well run German owned hotel with rooms around 2000 php. (Dark Vader take note)
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PL was slightly noisy at certain times during the day when I was there last week, outside was not at all and as I noted earlier get an even numbered room, no issues with noise and I am a light sleeper, thought the presence of a nice Cebuana in my bed tends to have me focused....:)
St Moritz - never heard but will now check it out as I like to be close to Ayala, but I need (like some others) excellent wifi/internet in the room for work purposes as I cant sit in lobbies, coffee shops and do work stuff unfortunately..a pain but I have to live with this restriction
Thanks M for the information, maybe ask my Cebu fav to visit the hotel on her way home and give me her view as if she is happy then better
As for Cebu hotel thread a good idea
I have been in Makati, Ermita and AC many times. Cebu is clean and hassle free. I am staying in Marriott and hunting in Ayala Mall. I hooked up with a freebee 10. Wow, I have a story to tell to my buddies back in Seattle.
Thanks to guys who have a tip on this forum regarding to DIA. It is a real gem to find some ladies. I had another freebee today lunch time. She literally dragged me into the room. FYI, I am not a very good looking guy but a cool, smooth operator.
Guys, if you will come down to PH, you need to do some groundwork in DIA. You will amazed what you may end up with.
I like to thank to this forum members who positively contributed tips to make my trip pleasant.
It looks like I will be in Cebu for two nights this month, 17th and 18th visiting a gal friend. She is asking me to stay at the Days Hotel on Mactan near the airport as it is also very near her place and she is not able to be out at night. From the website, the hotel doesn't look too appealing, any other viable options near there?
Also, can anyone suggest bars, restaurants, etc. on Mactan for the evenings I will be there. I know it is not that convenient to get into the center of the city for evening bar hopping from Mactan, and then back by taxi late at night, but is it actually impossible? All info much appreciated!
Manta Ray
PS: If any of you Cebu lads (that means you WR!) are around during my dates and want to hook up for a brew or two, PM me.
Starchild2012
08-11-10, 12:39
This will be my 3rd journey to Cebu in two years and I usually work the DIA girls and end up with more GFs than I can handle. Not shy about going for both quantity and quality. YNOT. LOL
This trip. I'm looking for an apartment or condo, if any fellow mongers have contacts or experiences, please PM me. I'll be in Cebu the month of September.
Plus, anyone for a cleansing ale. Let me know.
Cheapy
Never try condo rent ads on craigslist, lots of nigerian scammer there using very tricky sales pitch. Go to local sites like olx or adpost search google "cebu rent "and contact some agents by mail and tell your requirements.
There are also individual listings by owners, but you may not be satisfied with the home and go from one home to another.
You don't pay anything to the agent, once you get a condo, the owner pays half the one month rent....you only pay for the taxi fare or gas if he takes you on his vehicle.
Man, but i doubt anyone would give just one month condo, but there are some condos that advertise for monthly rental, but they very expensive or you can get good deals on some hotels.
Good Luck
This will be my 3rd journey to Cebu in two years and I usually work the DIA girls and end up with more GFs than I can handle. Not shy about going for both quantity and quality. YNOT. LOL
This trip. I'm looking for an apartment or condo, if any fellow mongers have contacts or experiences, please PM me. I'll be in Cebu the month of September.
Plus, anyone for a cleansing ale. Let me know.
CheapyTry this link if you e mail they will also supply monthly rate
www.ilink.ph/view.php?id=1220
I haven't been to either place in a while, but Belle Vista Hotel is between the two bridges and Mermaid Bar is just before the first bridge on the right side if you are moving between the airport and Cebu city. There are several other bars but mostly for locals. Any taxi driver should know Mermaid. It is a bit more expensive than the Mango bars. X
It looks like I will be in Cebu for two nights this month, 17th and 18th visiting a gal friend. She is asking me to stay at the Days Hotel on Mactan near the airport as it is also very near her place and she is not able to be out at night. From the website, the hotel doesn't look too appealing, any other viable options near there?
Also, can anyone suggest bars, restaurants, etc. on Mactan for the evenings I will be there. I know it is not that convenient to get into the center of the city for evening bar hopping from Mactan, and then back by taxi late at night, but is it actually impossible? All info much appreciated!
Manta Ray
PS: If any of you Cebu lads (that means you WR!) are around during my dates and want to hook up for a brew or two, PM me.
St Moritz has a big downside in that you have to go thru a squatter area to get to the front door. The first time I walked past there was a scraggly looking lady who pulled down her drawers and took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) right at the side of the road. I think some of the locals do karaoke nearby, but shouldn't be too bad unless you are an early sleeper.
I guess a plus is that it has it's own go go bar. Most of the ladies are mediocre at best, but the bar is all wood and you can imagine it being a really nice place at one time. There is a separate pool room in the back.
The rooms are large, but furnishings are from a different era. It would be a big step down from Parklane. I'm pretty sure there is wi-fi, but not sure if it is the standard you need WR. I liked the little courtyard in the middle, which includes a little side bar. You can step out of your room and order a beer (assuming it is staffed). The restaurant, much like the bar, seems to have few customers.
It's the kind of place that I would really hate to see disappear simply because it is unique....so, I hope some of you guys pay a visit and at least have a beer, maybe take a look around.
It's location is very near the new Hotel Elizabeth which should be opening soon.
Hotel Elizabeth http://www.fersalhotelgroup.com/cebu.html
St Moritz - never heard but will now check it out as I like to be close to Ayala, but I need (like some others) excellent wifi/internet in the room for work
It looks like I will be in Cebu for two nights this month, 17th and 18th visiting a gal friend. She is asking me to stay at the Days Hotel on Mactan near the airport as it is also very near her place and she is not able to be out at night. From the website, the hotel doesn't look too appealing, any other viable options near there?
Stay in the city MR. Any of the hotels listed on the forum are OK.
She can travel. Give her the fare (if she is punctual hehe). Days Hotel is way way out of the action - it is a decent walk to anywhere from there.
Gogobarlover
08-12-10, 03:25
It looks like I will be in Cebu for two nights this month, 17th and 18th visiting a gal friend. She is asking me to stay at the Days Hotel on Mactan near the airport as it is also very near her place and she is not able to be out at night. From the website, the hotel doesn't look too appealing, any other viable options near there?
Also, can anyone suggest bars, restaurants, etc. on Mactan for the evenings I will be there. I know it is not that convenient to get into the center of the city for evening bar hopping from Mactan, and then back by taxi late at night, but is it actually impossible? All info much appreciated!
Manta Ray
PS: If any of you Cebu lads (that means you WR!) are around during my dates and want to hook up for a brew or two, PM me.
Manta Ray, I stayed at the Days Hotel last year on Oct 2009. I personally did not like that hotel. I was very disappointed with that hotel. The only reason we stayed there was because it was very close to the airport. The rooms have an awful smell to it. Also, the remote for the TV you have to punch in a code for it. You will have to ask them what the code is. This is pretty stupid as other hotels don't do this. They are using those universal remotes for the TV. The button on the TV was broken that I couldn't manually change the channel. The service at the restaurant was very slow. My friend waited a good 20-30 min until they served his food. There were other filipinos coming into the restaurant after us. It looks like they catered to them first despite us being there before them. In the shower, I seen this big clump near the drain. I thought it was a pile of vomit hehe. Then, I realized that it was some clump of putty to patch up the floor I guess. What got us worried also was the sign we see by the elevator it stated:
"Please secure your personal belongings. We are not held responsible if your items are stolen"
This made us worry and we felt that our stuffs in the room are bound to be stolen. I'm not surprised if they already had several incidents of peoples possessions being stolen. If you're staying there for 1-2 nights only than... maybe it's not that bad. But, there's just not much to do there if you stay at Days hotel. I'll never stay at that hotel again.
Consider the Dulcinea Hotel and Suites. It's the same cost as Days Hotel and near the airport. It's not as close to the airport as Days Hotel though.
GregLondon
08-12-10, 04:48
Is it just me or is it getting more and more difficult to get high quality (18-23, slim, cute, fluent English, reliable, not too expensive, not too high mileage) girls here in Cebu via DIA and other sites? I know if you are just "window shopping" in the US etc it seems there is a superabundance of such girls on the dating sites here, but in reality most of these are flakes or scammers or hubby hunters.
Anyhow I do have a few such girls, but like variety so am willing to swap contact details. In the past i have tended to just give such contact details away but with a few honourable exceptions (eg Wicked Roger and Tallywacker) it tends to be a one way street.) if anyone is interested in some reciprocal contact giving of interesting high quality girls, PM me.
Wicked Roger
08-12-10, 05:46
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Anyhow I do have a few such girls, but like variety so am willing to swap contact details. In the past i have tended to just give such contact details away but with a few honourable exceptions (eg Wicked Roger and Tallywacker) it tends to be a one way street.) if anyone is interested in some reciprocal contact giving of interesting high quality girls, PM me.
Good point GL
I think there are more scammers on the web site nowadays or maybe the girls realise they can try a line or two and see if they get cash.... either way I dont bother much nowadays
Like you I tend to swap rather then give one way and I need to know the guy well first. Protects you, the girl and everyone's reputation. Plenty stories on the board about mongers giving away contacts and then he turns out to be real dick and girl you know very well blames you etc....get the story?
Many of us have put a lot of effort both on the Internet and physically (:)) to find girls we like and trust. So it should be reciprocal and the girls we see from other friends should be able to trust us as much our girls trust our 'friends'
Many of us have put a lot of effort both on the Internet and physically (:)) to find girls we like and trust. So it should be reciprocal and the girls we see from other friends should be able to trust us as much our girls trust our 'friends'
Spot on WR. Once you find a group of mates that you can trust then the swapping becomes easier.
It is even possible to do 3 somes and 4 somes with good friends too (as we know all too well).
By using the word "trust" I mean that I expect that some dreaded microorganisms will not be introduced into the party by any other party.
Microorganisms?
I got a good case of red eye / conjunctivitis. And a bit of research about incubation period means I got it soon after coming from Moalboal back to Cebu city, although the symptoms didn't show until Tokyo.
I didn't have sex with WR so he should be safe. I'm not sure about the five ladies I boinked in the last two weeks. X
Spot on WR. Once you find a group of mates that you can trust then the swapping becomes easier.
It is even possible to do 3 somes and 4 somes with good friends too (as we know all too well).
By using the word "trust" I mean that I expect that some dreaded microorganisms will not be introduced into the party by any other party.
Ouch, I didn't realize I was such a selfish bstrd, nor did I realize you needed help. Thanks for the contacts you sent me via pm, I never met any of them face to face. I tried with one gal, one of the first you recommended, but she's now married and living in the West.
Did you also write the profile for the girl with the Jollybee joke? She's hot.
X
Is it just me or is it getting more and more difficult to get high quality (18-23, slim, cute, fluent English, reliable, not too expensive, not too high mileage) girls here in Cebu via DIA and other sites? I know if you are just "window shopping" in the US etc it seems there is a superabundance of such girls on the dating sites here, but in reality most of these are flakes or scammers or hubby hunters.
Anyhow I do have a few such girls, but like variety so am willing to swap contact details. In the past i have tended to just give such contact details away but with a few honourable exceptions (eg Wicked Roger and Tallywacker) it tends to be a one way street.) if anyone is interested in some reciprocal contact giving of interesting high quality girls, PM me.
Good point GL
I think there are more scammers on the web site nowadays or maybe the girls realise they can try a line or two and see if they get cash....I recently did 3 months of paid membership in Cherry Blossoms.
Aside the fact, that 3 months is too long.
around 90 % of the girls I met there were SCAMMERS!!
Not worth the time you are consuming in opening all these flooded mails.
Hug Monster
08-12-10, 22:14
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?
I know I know I should have chosen the Marriott downtown. But, I choose Hilton for 3 reasons beach, it was free (points), and I need to save since I am traveling to multiple cities.
But here's my questions, fully being aware Hilton is kind of off the beaten path are there girl bars or any fun close to the Hilton? Looking for your expert knowledge or recommendation?
FreebieFan
08-13-10, 00:55
Ouch, I didn't realize I was such a selfish bstrd, nor did I realize you needed help. Thanks for the contacts you sent me via pm, I never met any of them face to face. I tried with one gal, one of the first you recommended, but she's now married and living in the West.
Did you also write the profile for the girl with the Jollybee joke? She's hot.
XI was chatting with the Jollibee joke girl yesterday too..cute girl ! Guess we're all trawling..thank goodness I ban everyone else in the office from chat... except me!
I didn't have sex with WR so he should be safe. I'm not sure about the five ladies I boinked in the last two weeks. X
Neither did I hahaha. No way would I crawl over any of WR's women to get to him lol.
He is a gentleman monger though with a lovely kind heart because he shares his spoils with other grateful mates.
Thankfully we just share pussy and not microorganisms
(or is that macro-orgasms ??)
Hug Monster
08-13-10, 10:13
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?I need to purchase a second ticket for my brother asap.
I would be thankful for an answer to the question above.
The Rooster1
08-13-10, 11:00
Neither did I hahaha. No way would I crawl over any of WR's women to get to him lol.
He is a gentleman monger though with a lovely kind heart because he shares his spoils with other grateful mates.
Thankfully we just share pussy and not microorganisms
(or is that macro-orgasms ??)
I'm waiting for the WR book to come out.
The Rooster1
08-13-10, 11:07
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?
I don;t understand Canada's stand on that.... Too long of a discussion on how I feel about that one. No problems coming in to to the PI. If you have a passport everything is ok. If there are any issues with this individual it will be when he trying to get back into outr lovely US....
It looks like I will be in Cebu for two nights this month, 17th and 18th visiting a gal friend. She is asking me to stay at the Days Hotel on Mactan near the airport as it is also very near her place and she is not able to be out at night. From the website, the hotel doesn't look too appealing, any other viable options near there?
Also, can anyone suggest bars, restaurants, etc. on Mactan for the evenings I will be there. I know it is not that convenient to get into the center of the city for evening bar hopping from Mactan, and then back by taxi late at night, but is it actually impossible? All info much appreciated!
Waterfront Hotel and Casino has a branch across the street from the airport. There is a KTV located inside if you are so inclined.
Crown Regency has a location in Lapu Lapu City as well but a little farther from the airport. On the second floor is a place called the '50's Bar' with a good mixture of patrons and live entertainment nightly.
Mermaid is probably the best bikini bar but there are a half dozen other choices including the recently opened 'Chili Peppers'.
There is a huge Asian style KTV on Airport road called 'White Castle'. Located in a mansion like house you can't miss the place.
Plenty of good Japanese and Korean restos in the area if you are into it.
But here's my questions, fully being aware Hilton is kind of off the beaten path are there girl bars or any fun close to the Hilton? Looking for your expert knowledge or recommendation?
Yes there is a place called 'Jungle Disco' right there in Maribago maybe only five minute ride from the Hilton. Otherwise, Mermaid would be the closest bikini bar around 20 minutes away in Lapu2x.
Starchild2012
08-13-10, 15:41
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?
Hey no worries man, PH or infact i would say, in all of Asia, your brother will not have any issues. Go with a happy and confident smile...its all cool down here....Good Luck
Your employees / colleagues will love you if you allow chat during breaks or after hours.
I was chatting with the Jollibee joke girl yesterday too..cute girl ! Guess we're all trawling..thank goodness I ban everyone else in the office from chat... except me!
To be on the safe side, why don't you get bro to apply for a visa before the trip. It's not necessary, but applying for a 21+ day visa would give you peace of mind.
On another note, whatever your bro provides can be provided cheaply in the Philippines. Hire an assistant?
You havent told us what your disability is, but tooling around in a wheelchair would be especially complicated.
Giving more information would naturally result n more information. X
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?
I have a record and with the US passport it has never been an issue. No one has ever asked as a matter of fact.
I like to share also. And not the micro. thing though. Glad the comments have gone well. I was afraid to touch it at first.
X- I have emailed the student nurse GL brought to our attention a few months back. I think I will have a good local friend in Cebu in the future who has lots of student contacts.
Guy's she is having a baby right about now so it probally is a little sloopy. But they do tighten back up. Their is a future.
Happy hunting
Wicked Roger
08-13-10, 16:52
Neither did I hahaha. No way would I crawl over any of WR's women to get to him lol.
He is a gentleman monger though with a lovely kind heart because he shares his spoils with other grateful mates.
Thankfully we just share pussy and not microorganisms
(or is that macro-orgasms ??)
Glad to hear none of you mongers want to have sex with me ... a huge relief for the next group sex party :D
And as RK and XM know, why would you as my fav is such a peach..of an ass as well RK...just to get your mind focused..
XM glad to see you had fun, Japanese never my flavour...am a boring chap really :D
Hug Monster
08-14-10, 04:51
Hello, everyone!
I am mildly disabled and my brother is my part-time care provider. If he has a felony record from 22 years ago, are they going to stop him from entering the Philippines? Canada would not let him in, will PI be as strict? I can make it OK without him, but I would be a lot safer to bring him along. Does PI only let you in if you are without a criminal record?Hi Everyone,
All of your replies were very helpful and I feel that (based on your input), there shouldn't be a problem in PI for my brother.
For the person who asked me the extent of my disability... I have a few problems... Such as:
1. I take many meds and need reminders
2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.
3. I am a little bit absent-minded and if I leave my money or passport on a counter, or in a taxi, I am in big trouble.
However... I am only 50 years old, my pension is $1100 a month, I have $115, 000 in a trust fund and I am a very nice guy. GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, how does this forum see my chances of finding a cute wife in PI?
GregLondon
08-14-10, 08:16
Hi Everyone,
All of your replies were very helpful and I feel that (based on your input), there shouldn't be a problem in PI for my brother.
For the person who asked me the extent of my disability... I have a few problems... Such as:
1. I take many meds and need reminders
2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.
3. I am a little bit absent-minded and if I leave my money or passport on a counter, or in a taxi, I am in big trouble.
However... I am only 50 years old, my pension is $1100 a month, I have $115, 000 in a trust fund and I am a very nice guy. GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, how does this forum see my chances of finding a cute wife in PI?
I think many girls will be willing to take you on, the difficulty will be finding a sincere one who treats you fairly.
Realistically there will be many "top end" girls who are not going to be interested eg 18-25 slim, degree, cute, decent family, no kids etc.
But equally there will be plenty of decent and cute girls for who you represent an escape from poverty or financial security for their kid (s).
The challenge will be to find one that you like who then goes on to treat you decently
Hug Monster
08-14-10, 09:51
I think many girls will be willing to take you on, the difficulty will be finding a sincere one who treats you fairly.
Realistically there will be many "top end" girls who are not going to be interested eg 18-25 slim, degree, cute, decent family, no kids etc.
But equally there will be plenty of decent and cute girls for who you represent an escape from poverty or financial security for their kid (s).
The challenge will be to find one that you like who then goes on to treat you decentlyI just wanted to thank Greg and all others for their advice!
GoodEnough
08-14-10, 10:25
I know this has been said before, but it bears repeating. Filipinos, for the most part, don't make a big deal of disabilities, and (my opinion) are much more tolerant of individual differences of any kind than the typical Westerner. They're generally (again my opinion only) more nurturing than Westerners, and more accepting. I'm making this point as a prelude to saying that I doubt you will have much difficulty in finding women. Of course, you will need to exercise the same degree of caution as anyone else, regarding scam artists (or in this case artistes) and you won't want to rush into anything (or perhaps anyone), without thought. But that's the same situation that confronts most, if not all Western men who come here.
The simplest solution to the absentmindedness in the case of your passport, is not to carry it at all. I never have, in the 7 years that I've lived here and I've never been asked for it. If if makes you uneasy not to be able to prove your citizenship. you can always make and carry a photo copy of the front page.
If you have difficulty walking far, you'll probably want to live in an area that's got plentiful taxis. If you mentioned that area to which you're thinking of moving, I missed it. However, if your pension is $1,100 a month, and you don't want to touch the other money, I'd suggest that you not live in Manila. I'm partial to Davao, where I live, but there are lots of cities here with much lower costs of living than Manila, and which offer a reasonable quality of life.
GE
Hug Monster
08-14-10, 10:52
Hello, Everyone.
As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.
My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.
I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"
Is this such a crazy idea?
i know this has been said before, but it bears repeating. filipinos, for the most part, don't make a big deal of disabilities, and (my opinion) are much more tolerant of individual differences of any kind than the typical westerner. they're generally (again my opinion only) more nurturing than westerners, and more accepting.ge,
your insight is dead on again. i had been married to a pinay for about 10 years when i was involved in a military vehicle accident that crushed my pelvis. my bowel was resected and i had to [CodeWord116] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord116) in a bag until i healed enough for reconnection. my wife would help the nurses (many pinays at the military hospital) change the bag and clean me up. i just could not imagine my american ex-wife doing that. i think pinays make excellent nurses for the reasons you stated above.
thanks again for thoughtful and well reasoned post.
slim
p.s.
i am a charter member of the ge fan club.
Hug Monster
08-14-10, 12:13
Thanks Good Enough! I am thinking about moving to Bukidnon, maybe Malaybalay, or Valencia City. I was going to build cabins and give them to any of the homeless up there. I also want to live there because I don't really like warm weather. Is that area safe, because from what I see, it looks pretty good and has almost no pollution!
Well, now we know what you mean by hug monster!
I think you'll enjoy the Philippines. Sorry to state the obvious, but it can be stifling hot, so a big guy like you might suffer a bit. I usually carry a handkerchief or bandanna to wipe off sweat. And as for a walk, there are numerous obstacles. It's not unusual to find a sewer hole with no cover. "Your not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy. "
I suggested you hire an asst, but your bro is going with you. Great.
As for me, when I get a gal I can trust I give her a budget and tell her I don't want to deal with taxi drivers, shop staff, etc. In other words, I make her my "assistant" in money matters.
Anyway, this is your brother's holiday too, so you still might consider an assistant. Labor is cheap in the Philippines. You could ask your hotel staff for a recommendation.
Recently, I hiked a bit to see Kawasan falls. I knew I didn't need a "guide" so turned down a guy who offered for only 100 pesos. I just wanted to be alone with my gal. Several hours later the camera bag was feeling kind of heavy and I wished I'd hired the guide. Not to guide me, but to carry the damn bag. Duh.
X man
Hi Everyone,
SNIP
2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.
Starchild2012
08-14-10, 14:28
Hi Everyone,
All of your replies were very helpful and I feel that (based on your input), there shouldn't be a problem in PI for my brother.
For the person who asked me the extent of my disability... I have a few problems... Such as:
1. I take many meds and need reminders
2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.
3. I am a little bit absent-minded and if I leave my money or passport on a counter, or in a taxi, I am in big trouble.
However... I am only 50 years old, my pension is $1100 a month, I have $115, 000 in a trust fund and I am a very nice guy. GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, how does this forum see my chances of finding a cute wife in PI?
You would find plenty of wife material in many dating sites, you need to scan it though, ask the expats here, they will help you. There are many nice expats living in PH from US, though you should be carefull from some. Do not lend money to anyone expat or pinoys...don't show off more money.
I don't think you will any any issues in PH...good luck
Waterfront Hotel and Casino has a branch across the street from the airport. There is a KTV located inside if you are so inclined.
Crown Regency has a location in Lapu Lapu City as well but a little farther from the airport. On the second floor is a place called the '50's Bar' with a good mixture of patrons and live entertainment nightly.
Mermaid is probably the best bikini bar but there are a half dozen other choices including the recently opened 'Chili Peppers'.
There is a huge Asian style KTV on Airport road called 'White Castle'. Located in a mansion like house you can't miss the place.
Plenty of good Japanese and Korean restos in the area if you are into it.
Many thanks for the information about Mactan accommodation and nightlife. I have booked a room at Bellavista Hotel as it looked fairly good on the website and the reviews were encouraging. Will let you know how it turns out.
Thanks again.
Manta Ray
Hug Monster
08-14-10, 17:49
Well, now we know what you mean by hug monster!
I think you'll enjoy the Philippines. Sorry to state the obvious, but it can be stifling hot, so a big guy like you might suffer a bit. I usually carry a handkerchief or bandanna to wipe off sweat. And as for a walk, there are numerous obstacles. It's not unusual to find a sewer hole with no cover. "Your not in Kansas anymore, Dorothy. "
I suggested you hire an asst, but your bro is going with you. Great.
As for me, when I get a gal I can trust I give her a budget and tell her I don't want to deal with taxi drivers, shop staff, etc. In other words, I make her my "assistant" in money matters.
Anyway, this is your brother's holiday too, so you still might consider an assistant. Labor is cheap in the Philippines. You could ask your hotel staff for a recommendation.
Recently, I hiked a bit to see Kawasan falls. I knew I didn't need a "guide" so turned down a guy who offered for only 100 pesos. I just wanted to be alone with my gal. Several hours later the camera bag was feeling kind of heavy and I wished I'd hired the guide. Not to guide me, but to carry the damn bag. Duh.
X manHello X Man,
I lived for 3 years near PI and I am pretty aware of the hot weather.
So that is why , if I move to the islands , I will live somewhere like Bukidnon near the mountains where the air is cooler.
Many thanks for the information about Mactan accommodation and nightlife. I have booked a room at Bellavista Hotel as it looked fairly good on the website and the reviews were encouraging. Will let you know how it turns out.
Thanks again.
Manta Ray
Stayed at the Bella Vista years ago and it really is a nice hotel. Took a larger suite and was impressed. At the time there was a bar within walking distance across the street and to the left. Nothing else within walking distance, even the mall down the street is a little too far, might as well take taxi to SM. Enjoy.
HM, I have family in Valincea and a good friend of mine married my x-sister inlaws best freind's daughter. He 44 and her 22, They live in MD in the US have two kids a boy and a girl and she is a great daughter inlaw to his mother and stepfather. He spent a month there with no problem.
Hiring 5 girls to help does not seem like a good idea to me. I would suggest that you fly into CDO Cagyan Del Oro. Bukindnon is a few hours south from there. I would use CDO as a base and explore the citys you mentioned in Bukindnon.
There is a very good seven day adventist nursing school Called Mountian View in Bukindnon. You might meet so teachers there who could make a wife and nurse together. There are some nursing schools in CDO also. I do not know the names. Good luck.
Naughty Nigel
08-15-10, 02:13
Hi guys,
I just came back from Cebu and have been testing the door policy at various hotels in the five star arena. Just so everyone knows. The five star hotels are all under $100USD per night.
#1. Marco Polo has the most liberal door policy and will not question anyone walking through with you at any hour. Security is good and if a companion comes to your hotel while you are unaccompanied they will be asked for I'd (they can refuse to show) and then be brought to your room by security who will OK the guest w you. No late night policy, no issues, no employees chatting with your guests
#2. Mariott: has been good in the past but a couple months had an incident. It was explained to me by the head of security that an Ameican had a girl in his room that was. Well not supposed to be there. Go figure. Somehow the embassay was involved and things got ugly. Their door policy has since changed. Any girl that looks like she is arriving for more than a spot of tea after 10pm will need to be signed in (no I'd necessarily required). Security here is the tightest in Cebu and it feels like the US embassy in Lebanon.
#3. Waterfront: No worries if you enter before 10pm with your companion. After 10pm the policy becomes draconian. Sign in mandatory. ID mandatory. And you pay and extra $10USD for your guest to join you for tea. The policy is unwavering but they seem to be liberal in terms of what they accept as id. Again. Day time all are allowed in for tea.
#4. Maribago Blue Water: on mactan island and killer place. Staff will chat w your guests if you bring many for tea. Got to a point where I needed to move out. No issues on id, entrance, or timing of guests. Secuirty here is 2nd to mariott with heavily gated area and lots of big dudes looking watch. So far from the city.
GoodEnough
08-15-10, 03:22
Thanks Good Enough! I am thinking about moving to Bukidnon, maybe Malaybalay, or Valencia City. I was going to build cabins and give them to any of the homeless up there. I also want to live there because I don't really like warm weather. Is that area safe, because from what I see, it looks pretty good and has almost no pollution!
I think you may have some misconceptions about Valencia and Malaybalay. First, these places are not really any cooler than Davao or CDO. They're either at or just above sea level. Second. as Gertrude Stein said when speaking (I think) about New Jersey, "There's no there there." These are small cities, with few to zero expats, and they don't offer much in the way of things to do. I've passed through Valencia more times than I can count and I've stayed in Malaybalay a few times on business, and I can assure you, though the towns are clean and reasonably pleasant, there is not much going on. These are not great locations (in my opinion) for a foreigner. Bukidnon is not a city at all, but a province in which Valencia and Malaybalay are located. It starts in the town of Buda, just north of Davao, and ends at the CDO city limits.
There are mountains around Buda, and the air is much cooler there, but there aren't any towns to speak of and there are no expats, so it would not be a terribly good location for you.
Whoever suggested that you establish a base in CDO had, I think, a good idea. CDO is an extremely pleasant city and it's large enough to have most and maybe all of the amenities that most foreigners would consider fairly essential to a decent quality of life. It's also got reasonable (though hardly first world) medical facilities if you need them. However, if you think you would like to live in Mindanao, and if proximity to reasonably modern medical facilities is important to you, the only real choice is Davao, with several large teaching hospitals.
You might also want to wait a while before you act on your idea of building cabins for the homeless. For one thing, you cannot purchase land on which to build the cabins, and for another, even if you could overcome this obstacle, you would be overrun by an army of poor people very quickly. It's a noble thought, but if you really want to help, you would probably be much better off working through an established charity or NGO here.
I strongly suggest that before you make any commitments, you come here for a while and get somewhat acclimated to the country and to whatever city you decide to visit.
GE
GregLondon
08-15-10, 03:55
I think you may have some misconceptions about Valencia and Malaybalay. First, these places are not really any cooler than Davao or CDO. They're either at or just above sea level. Second. as Gertrude Stein said when speaking (I think) about New Jersey, "There's no there there." These are small cities, with few to zero expats, and they don't offer much in the way of things to do. I've passed through Valencia more times than I can count and I've stayed in Malaybalay a few times on business, and I can assure you, though the towns are clean and reasonably pleasant, there is not much going on. These are not great locations (in my opinion) for a foreigner. Bukidnon is not a city at all, but a province in which Valencia and Malaybalay are located. It starts in the town of Buda, just north of Davao, and ends at the CDO city limits.
There are mountains around Buda, and the air is much cooler there, but there aren't any towns to speak of and there are no expats, so it would not be a terribly good location for you.
Whoever suggested that you establish a base in CDO had, I think, a good idea. CDO is an extremely pleasant city and it's large enough to have most and maybe all of the amenities that most foreigners would consider fairly essential to a decent quality of life. It's also got reasonable (though hardly first world) medical facilities if you need them. However, if you think you would like to live in Mindanao, and if proximity to reasonably modern medical facilities is important to you, the only real choice is Davao, with several large teaching hospitals.
You might also want to wait a while before you act on your idea of building cabins for the homeless. For one thing, you cannot purchase land on which to build the cabins, and for another, even if you could overcome this obstacle, you would be overrun by an army of poor people very quickly. It's a noble thought, but if you really want to help, you would probably be much better off working through an established charity or NGO here.
I strongly suggest that before you make any commitments, you come here for a while and get somewhat acclimated to the country and to whatever city you decide to visit.
GE
As ever solid advice from GE. Another place to consider is Dumaguete and the small villages around it. I think some of these villages are set higher up and are a little cooler and just 5-10kms out of town. Dumaguete has a sizeable expat community which in reality is important for most guys who want to have other guys to shoot the breeze with. Dumaguete is itself a short hop from Cebu. Dumaguete isnt such a great mongering destination precisely because there are so many ex pats/open minded girls but if you are looking for a long term wife/companion then there are loads of girls looking for that.
In terms of charity , i agree with GE don't start big projects, just be a generous guy now and then when you see a situation that a small amount of money can make a big difference in the life or someone who has been kind to you or otherwise won favour. Eg a $20 foam battress for a girl who has alwasy had to sleep on a bamboo floor or a 1200P electric fan for someone with no cooling in a stuffy shack.
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In terms of charity , i agree with GE don't start big projects, just be a generous guy now and then when you see a situation that a small amount of money can make a big difference in the life or someone who has been kind to you or otherwise won favour. Eg a $20 foam battress for a girl who has alwasy had to sleep on a bamboo floor or a 1200P electric fan for someone with no cooling in a stuffy shack.
Excellent advice from GL (and also GE in an earlier post).
I have also spent different periods of time in CdO, Bukidnon and Dumaguete and what has already been said is accurate.
Regarding helping the homeless or the poor.
There are a number of Foundations based in the Phils run by philanthropical expats (who live here) and who ensure EVERY PESO that is donated is actually spent on the poor (not like the larger international groups like World Vision and CARE that take out a fair percentage for "administration costs".
I belong to a Foundation that provides eye glasses for the poor and also sponsors Night High School classes for the poorest of the poor in Manila.
The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. My meagre contribution has changed these kids' lives, and that of their families too because it has given them hope. I have met the kids and families on numerous occasions, and it is always very emotional. These kids have got NOTHING going for them without an education - they are desperately poor. I am looking at helping them go on to college if they have the ability and will.
This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way
ManonsanBoy
08-15-10, 11:00
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The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way[/QUOTE]
Imagine no mongering for a month. God knows how many you can sponser.
Starchild2012
08-15-10, 12:59
I belong to a Foundation that provides eye glasses for the poor and also sponsors Night High School classes for the poorest of the poor in Manila.
The school providing this night high school service to our foundation charges ONLY 3000 pesos PER CHILD PER YEAR.
I sponsor 4 kids for the princely sum of 12 000 php PER YEAR (around $250 USD) and "my" 4 kids are now in 4th year high school. My meagre contribution has changed these kids' lives, and that of their families too because it has given them hope. I have met the kids and families on numerous occasions, and it is always very emotional. These kids have got NOTHING going for them without an education - they are desperately poor. I am looking at helping them go on to college if they have the ability and will.
This is a very good way to contribute if any of you wish to live here and play a developmental role in the community. Just PM me if you are interested in any way
Very good work...keep up
Hello, Everyone.
As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.
My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.
I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"
Is this such a crazy idea?I would also suggest using websites like Blossoms and FilipinaHeart to provide you with more options.
I'm surprised no one has really analyzed this one yet.
It sounds crazy, but it also sounds very interesting. In the chat forum people write about how to handle multiple dates in a day (avoid overlaps), and others are either for or against the idea of a chat contact bringing a friend. For the record, I usually allow female friends/ cousins and on several occasions found that the chaperone facilitated the tryst, or in two cases, provided future dates since the original target was unsatisfactory. You seem to be approaching things from a different angle. The more the merrier.
The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?
Rather than make it one week paid employment, you might consider a one day or one evening free dinner. Maybe some extra reward if she introduces you to a winner...although that goes without saying. I can't think of any reason to eat at Jollibee though.
As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).
Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how this strategy works. How long will you be in Philippines for your "search"? X
SNIP
I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"
Is this such a crazy idea?
It's an OK idea, but you may end up meeting a lot of sisters and cousins, because the potential long term payoff for them is much greater if you become family. If you give them a large success bonus, they may focus more on the bonus and less on sister/cousins.
Hello, Everyone.
As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.
My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.
I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"
Is this such a crazy idea?
Hug Monster
08-17-10, 09:28
I'm surprised no one has really analyzed this one yet.
It sounds crazy, but it also sounds very interesting. In the chat forum people write about how to handle multiple dates in a day (avoid overlaps), and others are either for or against the idea of a chat contact bringing a friend. For the record, I usually allow female friends/ cousins and on several occasions found that the chaperone facilitated the tryst, or in two cases, provided future dates since the original target was unsatisfactory. You seem to be approaching things from a different angle. The more the merrier.
The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?
Rather than make it one week paid employment, you might consider a one day or one evening free dinner. Maybe some extra reward if she introduces you to a winner...although that goes without saying. I can't think of any reason to eat at Jollibee though.
As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).
Good luck. I'm looking forward to hearing how this strategy works. How long will you be in Philippines for your "search"? XYou asked how long I will be in PI for my wife-search. Well. On my
Initial 3-week trip, I will just be there as a fun vacation, but I plan on moving there two months later and stay for many years. How many ways are there to stay for a long time (years)? Is the only choice to get married, or could I get some type of business visa?
Hug Monster
08-17-10, 09:40
Mr. X,
I forgot to include this answer in the other post. You asked me if the five wife. Search helpers were actual targets, or just facilitators? I had planned on choosing 5 girls who would make for an interesting evening, or a nice GF, just in case one of them likes me as a boyfriend.
Wicked Roger
08-17-10, 11:45
The fly in the soup is the intense jealousy you often find with Filipinos. As soon as you show any favortism for a gal, you might get bad vibes from the others. Are the five actual targets, or just facilitators?
As others have said, you might want to try the chat route, Cherry blossom/Filipinaheart/ Cebu?? Cebuana... ( I can't remember...), or even DIA (free).
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You raise a good point about jealousy. I forget how many times I have spoken to girls that jealousy is a nasty negative emotion and not, as they seem to routinely think, a show of love for their mahal (love).
Hence when I find a favourite, I have a long chat about jealousy and explain that I am not jealous....hence seeing her with other guys is perfectly normal for me so threesomes and group are also normal....just 'sex fun'. In the same vein I discuss girl girl and that I maybe (;)) a naughty boy with the girls, so don't be jealous is just 'sex fun'
Once you get this message across (and it can take time and sometimes you will never succeed), life is easier.
Then you only need to worry about the jealousy of her friends/relatives some of who, will try stir it up to make her leave you or vice versa so they can have you.
Wlaking through SM Department storre in makati once with Cbeu favourite was interesting in seeing the girls give her the 'eye' as she was with me shopping....she also noticed a few and said they jealous...so even if you and her are OK other may try to mess up your relationship ...out of jealousy :)
PI is a weird but wonderfully chaotic and corrupt place and I learn more each time I go back.
But HM...watch out for jealousy, deal with swiftly and directly, do not pussy foot around it as Filipians wont understand this, be direct and say stop it or you are out as she will try to wreck everything so she has you to herself....when we start thinking with a little brain then we lose all reasoning with the big one.
Enjoy your adventure
PS X...which of the 2 sisters was the picture of..the newbie that my favourite liked or the more experienced one?
WR, I think that is great advice about Jealousy, Dragonslayer must have the ability to handle that.
I am like you in that I am not jealous, Never have been. But when dealing with a jealous person and doing the things we do. We, get the well your freind has a bigger dick or is a better kisser thrown in our face. Or the other version of do you think she is good looking? There seems to be no honest answer if she is better looking.
And telling them more than a mouthfull is a waste does not satisfy them or I really like your ass or pussy the best does not work. These are all versions of the trap I end up in.
But I am going to heed your advice and lay the law down on the first day. So, thanks for the good advice.
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