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I did a search, and got no returns for this forum.
Any rooms recommended for short time, and the going rate girl/room.
Stroker Ace88
08-17-10, 19:08
Hi Everyone,
All of your replies were very helpful and I feel that (based on your input), there shouldn't be a problem in PI for my brother.
HM,
Very good advice was provided by some senior members but I will add a little more. Your brother should have no problems gaining access to the PI, but to make sure he should apply for the entry visa to the PI before he leaves your country that way he will save himself any hassles if for whatever reason he is denied entry upon arrival. It should not cost that much. Look online for a list of PI Consulates in your region.
For the person who asked me the extent of my disability... I have a few problems... Such as:
1. I take many meds and need reminders
2. I have a little trouble walking very far and if I fall down, I am down on the ground until someone helps me up, and at 360 lbs. It takes a big person to pick me up.
3. I am a little bit absent-minded and if I leave my money or passport on a counter, or in a taxi, I am in big trouble.
I am sorry to hear about your disabilities, but I will give you my thoughts. First your size will create a problem for alot of the younger girls in the 18-25 range. If they can choose someone they prefer younger thin men, but not always. You will just have to look and search harder for a woman that accepts you and thoughly test her in chat online before you arrive to make sure she is ok with your situation. Make sure she can see you on webcam before you travel to the PI so she knows what you look like and you can guage her response. If I were in your shoes I would accept a woman that was not as good looking but who I could get to know over time and trust with my life and who would take good care of me providing you do the same for her and her family.
However... I am only 50 years old, my pension is $1100 a month, I have $115, 000 in a trust fund and I am a very nice guy. GIVEN THESE CIRCUMSTANCES, how does this forum see my chances of finding a cute wife in PI?
HM, make sure not to share this info with any of the girls you might find yourself with. Just tell them you are not a rich man but a simple man who can share what little money you have with "insert name here" to help her and her family. DO NOT UNDER TELL THEM ABOUT THE TRUST FUND! If they know exactly how much money you have or how much you get per-month it will only mean they know how much to try to milk you for. I am not saying all woman are bad in the PI but there are alot of scammers who make a very good living off guys and they are experts in playing games with emotions and lying to finance there own dreams. Just get to know her and over time you can be the judge if she is the right one for you or not.
Stroker Ace88
08-17-10, 20:29
Hello, Everyone.
As my Pseudonym would imply, I do like to hug and cuddle A LOT. However. I am not opposed to having sex, it's just not something I see as a "Goal" when I visit a bar or go on a date.
My question: As I read this Forum, I see a lot of stuff about Bar-Fines, Pro's, Semi-Pro's, etc. And how easy it is to get laid in AC, Cebu, Massage Parlors, and a lot of places. I also read a lot about how you can pretty easily go to a mall and meet a couple of girls, (shoppers or employees), who will go back to your hotel and play-around with you, while there is an assumed "Tip" for her when she leaves. I am heavy, but not ugly. I am very kind and clean. I will have a NICE hotel room or Condo to go to.
I am only looking for a wife or companion whose looks are a little above average and whose attitude is Kind and Pleasant. I don't want to "Pay" for intimacy I. E. Barfines.
SO HOW ABOUT THIS since there are so many people looking for jobs in PI, I can hire 4-5 young ladies to spend a week with me, helping me find a wife. At $5 per day, per person, this will NOT be expensive. We meet at Jollibee, or my hotel, or a Mall and talk about our strategy, during which there might be a tickle-fight, or an innocent hug, or other types of flirting. That way, if I don't find a "Wife" by way of the search, I may have a few good contacts among the 4-5 helpers, if there are any sparks during our week together. I see this as a WIN. WIN situation, because if our goal is to find a wife for me and it does not succeed, I will still be spending at least 40 hours a week with 5 young ladies for a total of $125 a week, without paying for "Intimacy"
Is this such a crazy idea?
HM,
OK, once again I will be the voice of reason, the voice of clarity and I will give you some advice and if you want to listen to it or not its up to you but you really should be set straight.
First, while your plan to build small huts or houses for the poor maybe well intentioned and come from a wish to help the poor but it's just wrong and will never work. Just abandon that plan right now. You have to have a spot close to where the people need huts and you will find quickly you will be triple-charged for everything related to the building proces and the small inexpensive huts you wanted to build will quickly become a mess or red tape and budget over charging. If the locals smell blood or free money they will take advantage of your good heart and even if you do manage to give a few huts away, the truly poor have no lot to put it on, and will become squatters where you build the hut. The owner of the land will come along and "reclaim" the huts after you have turned your back and then become in effect a landlord and charge them monthly rent which they can't afford so your huts will be sold and the money pocketed by others. Give up on that plan now. Once you have been in the PI for awhile hook up with a good local charity and if you want to help out then you can do it through them.
Your other plan to find 5 woman to "help you" in finding the right woman for you is another useless plan, it's a 'crazy idea" and that too should be abandoned. Just don't do it, simple. First the girls will be only motivated by money and they will drag every scammer and women with 6 kids to meet you. If they smell blood and the cash in your pocket then every scammer girl and every well used bargirl will be very happy to line up and apply for your wife. BE CAREFUL! If the 5 girls you hire really like you there maybe alot of tampo and maldita infighting among the girls that could go on behind your back and when you are not around. This is just a bad bad idea if you are looking for someone serious to be with you.
If however you are only looking for hug partners or casual sex then this might work, but even then its a marginal plan at best. Not worth the money you would spend on the girls weekly fee when you can take that cash and go to a gogo bar and barfine the sexiest women in there for a week. Anyways this plan of yours will not work.
Now I will go off on a rant here, and its based on HM's thoughts and not directed at him. Dont get offended, and I mean no disrespect.
At the risk of being flamed and serious backlash from some of the senior members of this board I will give my two-cents worth. I think the senior members of this board have done a dis-service to all the lurkers and newbies out there who plan there first trip. They read how we bed 5 or 6 different girls a day, they sit back and read how poor the Philippine people are, they read how all the girls will just jump on any foreign guy who walks in the mall or how we get complimentary blowjobs when we land in Manila after a long flight. They read how it's so easy to pick up shopgirls or to find a girl in the mall, on the street or on a dating webite. They dont get it, they sit there and they soak it all in and have wet dreams and they think its very easy and no work is required to get 5 girls a day or how easy it all is. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!
Sure we post some amazing pics of the sexiest young woman, sure we might meet a girl from the dating websites and within 30mins we are in the hotel getting a blowjob as we spank her ass and play with her wet hole, and all that for just the cost of a meal or some taxi money. It can be that easy, but truthfully it takes alot of work and alot of effort. Very few senior members of this board will post about the problems they encounter or the times they came up empty with women they met from the internet or when they go looking for women in the malls. It can be very easy at times to get woman, and other days things just do not go your way. I think Dragonslayers post on his CDO thread were a very accurate and truthful example of sometimes it's not that easy to score or line up women in the Philippines.
My advice to anyone thinking about going to the Philippines for the first time would be to read everything you can but to realize it will take some effort and some game to score average non-pro woman on a regular basis. You have to be in the Philippines to fully understand what I am talking about, and to get used to the way the women think and to find ways around the tampo attitude and to be able to quickly size up a girl if she is looking for a husband, a boyfriend or will be ok with just some fun. You will feel the effects of as one senior member stated the "Brad Pitt Pill" when you arrive in the Philippines and its real. You will get lots of attention from all kinds of woman and that's the reason why the Philippines is such a special place.
Member #4351
08-17-10, 21:43
I´m not sure how far $1,100 a month would go. Probably Spamhog or some of the other forum members who are residents could chip in, but it doesn´t seem like that much to me since HM will be renting and will need a place with AC due to his physical situation.
Hug Monster
08-18-10, 00:23
Beginning with Stroker Ace 88, Redman, WR and all of the rest...
Thank You! Thank You!
That is a LOT of Advise and a LOT of input.
This forum is Way Cool for that reason and it is very helpful.
Hug Monster
08-18-10, 00:30
Hello, David 33,
As I read a lot of these posts, I was lead to believe that $1000+ per month would be enough to live in PI, as long as it is NOT Manila. Am I wrong? Thank You for your input and please share any advise.
At the risk of being flamed and serious backlash from some of the senior members of this board I will give my two-cents worth. I think the senior members of this board have done a dis-service to all the lurkers and newbies out there who plan there first trip. They read how we bed 5 or 6 different girls a day, they sit back and read how poor the Philippine people are, they read how all the girls will just jump on any foreign guy who walks in the mall or how we get complimentary blowjobs when we land in Manila after a long flight. They read how it's so easy to pick up shopgirls or to find a girl in the mall, on the street or on a dating webite. They dont get it, they sit there and they soak it all in and have wet dreams and they think its very easy and no work is required to get 5 girls a day or how easy it all is. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT!
Sure we post some amazing pics of the sexiest young woman, sure we might meet a girl from the dating websites and within 30mins we are in the hotel getting a blowjob as we spank her ass and play with her wet hole, and all that for just the cost of a meal or some taxi money. It can be that easy, but truthfully it takes alot of work and alot of effort. Very few senior members of this board will post about the problems they encounter or the times they came up empty with women they met from the internet or when they go looking for women in the malls. It can be very easy at times to get woman, and other days things just do not go your way. I think Dragonslayers post on his CDO thread were a very accurate and truthful example of sometimes it's not that easy to score or line up women in the Philippines.
My advice to anyone thinking about going to the Philippines for the first time would be to read everything you can but to realize it will take some effort and some game to score average non-pro woman on a regular basis. You have to be in the Philippines to fully understand what I am talking about, and to get used to the way the women think and to find ways around the tampo attitude and to be able to quickly size up a girl if she is looking for a husband, a boyfriend or will be ok with just some fun. You will feel the effects of as one senior member stated the "Brad Pitt Pill" when you arrive in the Philippines and its real. You will get lots of attention from all kinds of woman and that's the reason why the Philippines is such a special place.
I believe you are making a very good point here. I was one of those newbies making my first trip to the PI earlier this year and yes it took a lot more work than I expected. Some of the regular girls I chatted up like hotel receptionists, waitresses, shop girls were not much easier than girls back home. Of course it's easier than back home, there is no way I would hook up with that many girls in two weeks at home, but it's good that you are giving some realistic advice. This is not to say the others are giving bad advice, I like to read them and think of them like Sportscenter highlights so to speak. Anyway I'm looking forward to my next trip back, I will be better prepared for sure.
Starchild2012
08-18-10, 08:06
I´m not sure how far $1,100 a month would go. Probably Spamhog or some of the other forum members who are residents could chip in, but it doesn´t seem like that much to me since HM will be renting and will need a place with AC due to his physical situation.
David 1000 USD is good amount to live a comfortable lifestyle, i have lived in both Cebu and Manila....only high cost would be apartment rent (10,000 fully furnished), electricity charge which would be the real killer if you cant adjust to the climate...A/c 24/7 would cost more than 5000 pesos..if you get used to table fan for day time atleast the cost will be half. rest all are small small expenses, if you eat out couple of night a week have fun etc still it would not cost more.
As you get used to living here, you can live for as low as 600 USD outside of cebu city.....many expats are living in that amount also with rent as cheap as 4000 pesos but its in remote places....good for people who are already settled
good luck
Wicked Roger
08-18-10, 08:09
I did a search, and got no returns for this forum.
Any rooms recommended for short time, and the going rate girl/room.
CL
There is a Sogo in Cebu
http://www.hotelsogo.com/branch/cebu.html
Other mongers have used v cheap hotels that are very cheap for the same purpose but allows you more time and likely more girls :D
Wicked Roger
08-18-10, 08:24
I believe you are making a very good point here. I was one of those newbies making my first trip to the PI earlier this year and yes it took a lot more work than I expected. Some of the regular girls I chatted up like hotel receptionists, waitresses, shop girls were not much easier than girls back home. Of course it's easier than back home, there is no way I would hook up with that many girls in two weeks at home, but it's good that you are giving some realistic advice. This is not to say the others are giving bad advice, I like to read them and think of them like Sportscenter highlights so to speak. Anyway I'm looking forward to my next trip back, I will be better prepared for sure.
Toronto, SC etc
It is hard, especially as a newbie and certainly we dont always get lucky. Much also depends on your mode of attack so to speak. I have a number of contacts like many senior members who visit and mix that with malls and web sites. It is the former that always gives the best results and that is only achieved by multiple visits, being nice/respectful etc and not being a dick!
The other routes you will have some success as we all have but is a LT solution which is tough if you are there for a short time and want as much pussy as possible...for that try Mango etc, but then YMMV and the service can be different. Hence contacts always give me what I like and from that comes more as they always have friends happy to meet me and they know I will be 'generous' and kinky - so we all know what will happen.
SA you wont get flamed as you make a valid point and if newbies spent time RTFF before hand they would know it is not that easy. For some senior members who visit regularly they work the web sites and have some definite dates (Gangles is a good example) so the trip goes off reasonably successfully
Others like me and GL have some web site dates but mainly build on the contacts we meet as we come across as nice guys and visit PI regularly.
Toronto, as you found, it is a mix and hit and miss. But eventually you will find your comfort zone and understand that PI is not as easy as everyone thinks but certainly easier than our home countries...imagine chatting up a 18 year old in a mall in the USA or Europe as a 50+ year old man....you will likely be called a pervert (something I am proud to be called at times especially by the ladies who are smiling at me when saying it:D)
As for the 'Brad Pitt' pill...it works but you still need to put in the effort and sometimes as SA said it still is not successful as DS said on the other forum. XMan and I sat in Red Lips the other week and the guy next to us and 3 cuties (my Cebu favourite and the 2 sisters he posted about), was not happy as no girl would go near him....as he was known to be a dick and a cheap charlie....so pays to be nice (and use after shave and deodrant please!!)
Happy hunting
Starchild2012
08-18-10, 08:33
Hello, David 33,
As I read a lot of these posts, I was lead to believe that $1000+ per month would be enough to live in PI, as long as it is NOT Manila. Am I wrong? Thank You for your input and please share any advise.Yes, 1000 USD is enough to live anywhere in PH not too rich not too poor, upper middle class lifestyle.
Initially, you may have to spend more, as you settle down and know your way around, the cost will come down.
Cebu is a good choice you made.
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I just want to point out some of the negative you may experience as i get to hear a lot from expats..which are genuine issues.
Sometimes there may be brownouts. Electricity cut was a major problem in Cebu city for last couple of months. You will need to adjust with living and sleeping without power..your humidity level will be tested.
There is a constant issue of water shortage in Cebu.
MAKE SURE YOU ASK THE LANDLORD AND NEIGHBORS REGARDING THE WATER supply. Some times the force in tap water is very low, it just drips, only choose areas which are not experiencing any water problems.
As you are from a developed country..these issues may or may not be of importance to you. you need to compromise on things here. People are generally very nice. However, dis honesty is more in a third world country than what you may have experienced in your home country.
From your post you seems to be a nice guy, thats why you are getting so many good information from members..else everyone will say RTFF :)
Good Luck
Starchild2012
08-18-10, 08:46
Toronto, SC etc
The other routes you will have some success as we all have but is a LT solution which is tough if you are there for a short time and want as much pussy as possible. For that try Mango etc, but then YMMV and the service can be different. Hence contacts always give me what I like and from that comes more as they always have friends happy to meet me and they know I will be 'generous' and kinky. So we all know what will happen.WR. I agree. Its always better to plan LT stay in PH than 10 ST stays.
ST people don't have time to test the whole sample, they get couple of dates and it depends on luck. If you stay here for at least six months. You get to meet a lot of girls and your success rate goes high.
Another thing is we never had it even the lowest possible fun back home. Atleast for me. Whatever, I get here is always a positive experience.
Whatever, work I put in to chase girls here, I know it won't go to waste. The probability of success is too high here to be disappointed.
Good Luck
Hug Monster
08-18-10, 10:29
Yes, 1000 USD is enough to live anywhere in PH not too rich not too poor, upper middle class lifestyle.
Initially, you may have to spend more, as you settle down and know your way around, the cost will come down.
Cebu is a good choice you made.
===================
I just want to point out some of the negative you may experience as i get to hear a lot from expats..which are genuine issues.
Sometimes there may be brownouts. Electricity cut was a major problem in Cebu city for last couple of months. You will need to adjust with living and sleeping without power..your humidity level will be tested.
There is a constant issue of water shortage in Cebu.
MAKE SURE YOU ASK THE LANDLORD AND NEIGHBORS REGARDING THE WATER supply. Some times the force in tap water is very low, it just drips, only choose areas which are not experiencing any water problems.
As you are from a developed country..these issues may or may not be of importance to you. you need to compromise on things here. People are generally very nice. However, dis honesty is more in a third world country than what you may have experienced in your home country.
From your post you seems to be a nice guy, thats why you are getting so many good information from members..else everyone will say RTFF :)
Good LuckThanks for the info about power "Brownouts" and the lack of constant running water. However. And fortunately. I spent three years on the Island of Saipan with their frequent brownouts and water only flowing in the early morning, or early evening for a few hours a day. Also the climate on Saipan is very similar to PI, so it won't be a shock for me.
Again, Thanks
Hug Monster
08-18-10, 10:41
WR...I agree...Its always better to plan LT stay in PH than 10 ST stays.
ST people don't have time to test the whole sample, they get couple of dates and it depends on luck...if you stay here for at least six months...you get to meet a lot of girls and your success rate goes high.
Another thing is we never had it even the lowest possible fun back home..atleast for me :)...whatever, i get here is always a positive experience.
Whatever, work i put in to chase girls here, i know it won't go to waste...the probability of success is too high here to be disappointed :)
Good LuckYou mention here about staying for "At least six months".
Outside of getting married to a local, or having a work visa, please tell me
Any of the ways that I can stay long-term.
Thank You
Stroker Ace88
08-19-10, 03:04
You mention here about staying for "At least six months".
Outside of getting married to a local, or having a work visa, please tell me
Any of the ways that I can stay long-term.
Thank You
HM,
I think you need to take some time and RTFF, then come back and ask some questions if you can't find the answer.
On the topic your $1100US per month to live in the Philippines some of the other members have given you good advice, now my two-cents. With a rough exchange rate of 45P-1US dollar that gives you around 50K in pesos. Now lets see how much you have after expenses.
First your monthly rent can range anywhere from 10K on the low end to around 25K or more for a nicer place. Only you know what kind of living conditions you desire, so adjust your budget. Next will be 5k a month for electricity. All the other expenses have been covered by other members with the exception of taking care of your GF and her family. Have you considered how much you will give to the girl to keep both her and her family happy if those are you plans? Have you thought about all the family "emergencies" that will come your way. Roof leaks, needs replacement. Roof too low, needs replacement. Roof too high, needs replacement. Someone needs medicine, someone needs school supplies. Carabao needs emergency heart operation, and on and on it goes.
I think your 50K a month will go through your hands faster than you think.
FreebieFan
08-19-10, 04:16
HM,
I think you need to take some time and RTFF, then come back and ask some questions if you can't find the answer.
On the topic your $1100US per month to live in the Philippines some of the other members have given you good advice, now my two-cents. With a rough exchange rate of 45P-1US dollar that gives you around 50K in pesos. Now lets see how much you have after expenses.
First your monthly rent can range anywhere from 10K on the low end to around 25K or more for a nicer place. Only you know what kind of living conditions you desire, so adjust your budget. Next will be 5k a month for electricity. All the other expenses have been covered by other members with the exception of taking care of your GF and her family. Have you considered how much you will give to the girl to keep both her and her family happy if those are you plans? Have you thought about all the family "emergencies" that will come your way. Roof leaks, needs replacement. Roof too low, needs replacement. Roof too high, needs replacement. Someone needs medicine, someone needs school supplies. Carabao needs emergency heart operation, and on and on it goes.
I think your 50K a month will go through your hands faster than you think.I would totally agree.
Sorry to say but my weekends in Manila, with no hotel bills as I stay in my apartment tend to run at least P30, 000.
All I know I spend on is beers/juices/etc from supermarket, some meals (but somehow in Manila I seem to forget to eat dinner), gas for the car, money for E-pass for car, some Burgos drinks but hardly ever ladies drinks, breakfast every day, some Sogo or Eurotel costs, and that seems to be P30,000.
Of course I always give my sweet ladies (all no pro) P 1,000 as a gift which will always buy repeats.
And that quickly comes to P30, 000 for 3-4 day stays.
Econo Tech
08-19-10, 05:36
Carabao needs emergency heart operation, That's a new one for me.
I thought I had seen it all.
Factors to consider
1. Visa for long time stays.
2. Renting an apartment.
3. Living expenses.
4. To have a live in GF or butterfly?
5. Are you going to get bored easily with sedentary lifestyle?
6. Do you loose your cool if there is no electricity or running water for a while?
7. When you get bored, can you afford to fly out to another country for
change of scenery?
8. Do you worry about crime or police corruption?
9. Does it bother you that to get things done here you need lots of patience?
10. Only Phi foods are cheap in Phi. If you are looking for western foods it
will cost hell of a lot more. Can you get used to this?
Living in Phi depends on your take on the above and lots more as you find out in time.
Wicked Roger
08-19-10, 06:20
HM,
On the topic your $1100US per month to live in the Philippines some of the other members have given you good advice, now my two-cents. With a rough exchange rate of 45P-1US dollar that gives you around 50K in pesos. Now lets see how much you have after expenses.
Have you considered how much you will give to the girl to keep both her and her family happy if those are you plans? Have you thought about all the family "emergencies" that will come your way. Roof leaks, needs replacement. Roof too low, needs replacement. Roof too high, needs replacement. Someone needs medicine, someone needs school supplies. Carabao needs emergency heart operation, and on and on it goes.
I think your 50K a month will go through your hands faster than you think.
SA has a valid point and while it is not good to generalise there is a big risk that you will be seen as the provider to any girl's family and assorted relatives.
Look at the number of pinays/pinoys working in the Middle East who support the family back home ...ie once one member gets a job the rest stop looking and sit and spend the cash remitted each month and then ask for more!!! I have seen many first hand experiences of this in my time and the girls are too soft and sensitive to say "no" to the family. Even met one who brother wanted more for his college allowance (rather than try find a part time job) and the girl was borrowing cash where she worked to feed his demands. She in all sorts of trouble debt wise in the Middle East and no one cared bcak home!
So HM, you are forewarned.
But to try and to try and overcome this particular hurdle, be very direct, dont be soft and shy away from the potential problem. Tell them you support her (through school maybe etc ), set an allowance/budget (and teach them about it as many have no clue how to budget cash), but you will not help the family unless you spare cash and if you decide. Also say (again directly), you may help mom and dad (they will like to hear that) but...only when you can, is your decision..... and the family and assorted relatives will not be assisted in any way and dont embarass (make you ashamed) by asking...ever!
Then tell her if she persists in trying to ask for help for second cousins buffalo' sore foot or auntie's roof etc you will find another girl who better understands you are not a ATM and wants your love and kindness for herself first and foremost.
Sound tough but tough love is sometime the only way..I have used this before and stuck to my guns and it does work. The alternative for the girl, who may cry, shout, look upset etc is find another man...and that takes time...effort and sometime theyb realise that best have what they have now and wait ...also as she will be "ashamed" in front of her family and relatives
I may add that not all pinays are like this and much is driven by the abject poverty in which they live, never having anything means when someone offers something they are proud and want more..I have visited pinay's homes, and trust me you would not like the living conditions of many. They are proud people trying to do their best with limited resources and opportunity. Some have limited chances ever but still try to bring their kids up properly so bear that in mind as well,. They nothing and still try and be happy.
So if you do this be gentle but firm, be direct but fair and never ever think with your small brain as you will end up with little left each month from the 50k pesos for yourself. You cant save everyone HM, so dont, just her to start with is good enough to get you through the Pearly Gates am sure (I am sure I will also see them...but maybe passing through on the way donw :D)
Just my thoughts
Starchild2012
08-19-10, 08:59
You mention here about staying for "At least six months".
Outside of getting married to a local, or having a work visa, please tell me
Any of the ways that I can stay long-term.
Thank You
Yes, you can stay long term indefinitely in the PH on SRRV (Special Resident Retiree's Visa) . As you are 50 years old, the condition are very minimal.
Please visit the PH government site on retirement visa below to get more info
http://www.pra.gov.ph/
It has all the info you will need, application can be filled online also.
Some of the points you can also read in faq's like..
Q: WHAT IS THE AGE/DEPOSIT REQUIREMENT OF AN APPLICANT?
A: Retirement Option and their Required Time Deposit
1. With Pension – 50 years. Old and above – the required time deposit is US$10, 000.00 plus a monthly pension of US$800.00 for a single applicant and US$1,000.00 for couple
2. Without Pension
35 to 49 years old – US$50, 000.00 time deposit
50 years old and above – US$20, 000.00 time deposit
Former Filipino Citizens (at least 35 years old, regardless of the number of dependents – US$1,500.00)
Ambassadors of foreign countries who served and retired in the Philippines, current and former staff members of international organizations including ADB (at least 50 years old) -US$1,500.00
Q: WHAT ARE THE BENEFITS UNDER THE PROGRAM?
A: Once you are an SRRV Visa holder, it opens the door to vast opportunities and benefits. These include:
1. Option to Retire Permanently
a. You may live, work and study in the Philippines
2. Multiple Entry Privileges
b. You may travel outside the Philippines and re-enter anytime
3. Exemptions from:
a. Income tax over your pension and annuities;
b. Exit and re-entry permits of the Bureau of Immigration;
c. Annual registration requirement of the Bureau of Immigration;
d. Customs Duties and Taxes with regard to the importation of household goods and
e. personal effects up to US$7,000.00;
f. Travel tax, if you stay in the Philippines is less than one year from the last entry date; and
g. I-Card
As an SRR Visa holder, the PRA can assist you in obtaining basic documents from other government agencies. These include, but are not limited to:
a. Alien Employment Permit
b. Driver's License
c. Tax Exemption/Extension Certificate
Q: WHEN CAN THE REQUIRED FOREIGN CURRENCY DEPOSIT BE CONVERTED INTO INVESTMENT?
A: After one (1) month from the date of the issuance of the SRR Visa.
Q: WHAT AREAS OF INVESTMENTS ARE AVAILABLE TO A RESIDENT RETIREE?
A: The areas of investment are the following:
Purchase of condominium unit/s;
Long term Lease of a house and lot, condominium or townhouse unit/s;
Construction of a residential unit on a leased parcel of land;
Purchase of Proprietary Membership/Golf shares in golf clubs;
For former Filipinos, purchase of a lot not exceeding 5,000 square meters in urban areas or three (3) hectares rural areas to be used for business or other purposes.
You see after you make the deposit, you can also use it to buy home and other things
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else, you can use the traditional approach by renewing your tourist visa every two months for 16 months PLUS 8 month more depending upon the immigration officer grant and then after 2 years, you have to go back and start the process again..you can do that but it will cost more long term...3000 to 4000 on average every two months.
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I think the retirement visa is the best option, if you plan to stay long term.
you can read more faq's here
http://www.pra.gov.ph/main/faq?page=1
Good Luck
Yes, you can stay long term indefinitely in the PH on SRRV (Special Resident Retiree's Visa) . As you are 50 years old, the condition are very minimal.
Please visit the PH government site on retirement visa below to get more info
http://www.pra.gov.ph/
Good Luck
This is (for me) valuable information and very well summarised Starchild.
Can I suggest you re-post it to the more appropriate forum: "Philippine Residency and/or Permanent Visa"
Hug Monster
08-19-10, 12:56
That was a lot of helpful info about the SRRV.
hanks for the huge effort.
Star child this is great info and I agree it should be added in other area's for the benifit of others.
WR, This is great advice and the truth. I in an email to GL tryed in my confussed state of mind to state these same truths. Having been married to a PI girl.
Hug Monster. I am refering to Wicked Rogers advice about PI girls and how the family will bleed you. And how you have to be firm. I am not the best writter. But, I can tell you that you can take that advice to the bank. I pray that I can follow it myself.
Stroker Ace88
08-19-10, 17:48
Has anyone been to the "Chuvy Chuvy" (SP?) massage on F. Ramos street? It's located next to Volvo KTV. I pass it often on my way to the K1 Spa just a few doors down and the massage girls who work at CC like to hang around outside and they give me the look and the smile so I was wondering what extras are offered and the price. Anyone know or do I have to take one for the team?
On a related topic, has anyone been to the Finland Massage recently and can provide an update. I have never visited but want to find a massage place that offers extras.
Thanks.
You mention here about staying for "At least six months".
Outside of getting married to a local, or having a work visa, please tell me
Any of the ways that I can stay long-term.
Thank You
1) Get a regular tourist visa & keep getting extensions up to 12 months max.
or
2) Get a special resident visa (retiring here). There are conditions.
or
3) Start a business & employ 10 locals, stay as long as your money holds out ;) Its called SVEG (Special Visa for Employment Generation).
or
4) Marry a local, get a Balikbayan stamp in your passport entitling you to stay for up to 12 months at a time without further cost.
or
5) Overstay your tourist visa. Hope you don't get caught. Pay a lot of fines when you do leave. Hope you don't get blacklisted from re-entry.
Did I miss anything?
AV
Hug Monster
08-20-10, 03:18
1) Get a regular tourist visa & keep getting extensions up to 12 months max.
or
2) Get a special resident visa (retiring here). There are conditions.
or
3) Start a business & employ 10 locals, stay as long as your money holds out ;) Its called SVEG (Special Visa for Employment Generation).
or
4) Marry a local, get a Balikbayan stamp in your passport entitling you to stay for up to 12 months at a time without further cost.
or
5) Overstay your tourist visa. Hope you don't get caught. Pay a lot of fines when you do leave. Hope you don't get blacklisted from re-entry.
Did I miss anything?
AVAmavida,
This info is very helpful! Numbers 1 or 3 might be my best option.
Thanks
PolyOrchid
08-20-10, 04:28
I believe you are making a very good point here. I was one of those newbies making my first trip to the PI earlier this year and yes it took a lot more work than I expected. Some of the regular girls I chatted up like hotel receptionists, waitresses, shop girls were not much easier than girls back home. Of course it's easier than back home, there is no way I would hook up with that many girls in two weeks at home, but it's good that you are giving some realistic advice. This is not to say the others are giving bad advice, I like to read them and think of them like Sportscenter highlights so to speak. Anyway I'm looking forward to my next trip back, I will be better prepared for sure.Just remember these girls are human and have hopes, dreams, and want a better life. While we are all here to get the holy P, let's not forget that these girls, for the most part, come from some pretty dreadful economic backgrounds.
Do you really think that they would be as anxious to spend time with us if they'd been born into a comfortable background and didn't need to try to find some kind of financial rescue for themselves and their families.
Granted, many of the girls are hardened and have hearts that are closed tighter than a nun's **** but it's likely that condition was brought about by encountering too many men who have treated them like shit just because they can.
Let's remember they have hearts, souls, dreams, and aspirations and can hurt just the way we do sometimes. A little kindness goes a long way. Some of my favorite girls in PI are ones I have shown some genuine warmth too. Believe me, that little bit of caring will pay tremendous rewards. And it's not bad for your karma either.
Starchild2012
08-20-10, 07:06
This is (for me) valuable information and very well summarised Starchild.
Can I suggest you re-post it to the more appropriate forum: "Philippine Residency and/or Permanent Visa"
Star child this is great info and I agree it should be added in other area's for the benifit of others.
WR, This is great advice and the truth. I in an email to GL tryed in my confussed state of mind to state these same truths. Having been married to a PI girl.
Hug Monster. I am refering to Wicked Rogers advice about PI girls and how the family will bleed you. And how you have to be firm. I am not the best writter. But, I can tell you that you can take that advice to the bank. I pray that I can follow it myself.
ok..guys...I have put the post in Philippine Residency and/or Permanent Visa thread also....I took the liberty to add Amavida's post with links as it had great info also. Thanks
Gentlemen,
Am giving myself a little treat with a 5D4N night trip to MNL soon for a bit of shopping and a lot of fun. As someone who lives in a ASEAN country and has mongered all around SE Asia, this will be a return to the PI in search of that sweet brand of LBFM Pinay GFE that is a little different from my other usual destination for LBFM - CGK.
Would like to do an informal poll here, I've never been to CEB before, so thought I would break the 5D4N into 3 nights CEB, 1 night MNL. Is that 1N too many for an initial taste? Is the short detour worth making at all, or should I just not bother and stay in MNL the whole time?
The idea came about due to the closure of that institution in Ermita that we are all so fond of. :D ...Seriously.
Wicked Roger
08-20-10, 12:00
Gentlemen,
Am giving myself a little treat with a 5D4N night trip to MNL soon for a bit of shopping and a lot of fun. As someone who lives in a ASEAN country and has mongered all around SE Asia, this will be a return to the PI in search of that sweet brand of LBFM Pinay GFE that is a little different from my other usual destination for LBFM - CGK.
Would like to do an informal poll here, I've never been to CEB before, so thought I would break the 5D4N into 3 nights CEB, 1 night MNL. Is that 1N too many for an initial taste? Is the short detour worth making at all, or should I just not bother and stay in MNL the whole time?
The idea came about due to the closure of that institution in Ermita that we are all so fond of. :D ...Seriously.
RB
Personally if you have done Manila, try Cebu with a night stopover Manila, Dont try and do too much stick to one place...my preference is Cebu but I am biased...but I have spent much time Manila and while I like it I prefer Cebuanas
Just remember these girls are human and have hopes, dreams, and want a better life. While we are all here to get the holy P, let's not forget that these girls, for the most part, come from some pretty dreadful economic backgrounds.
Do you really think that they would be as anxious to spend time with us if they'd been born into a comfortable background and didn't need to try to find some kind of financial rescue for themselves and their families.
Granted, many of the girls are hardened and have hearts that are closed tighter than a nun's **** but it's likely that condition was brought about by encountering too many men who have treated them like shit just because they can.
Let's remember they have hearts, souls, dreams, and aspirations and can hurt just the way we do sometimes. A little kindness goes a long way. Some of my favorite girls in PI are ones I have shown some genuine warmth too. Believe me, that little bit of caring will pay tremendous rewards. And it's not bad for your karma either.
Sorry what made you think that I treated the girls poorly or disrespected them? I was only trying to point out that people shouldn't go to the PI expecting girls to fall all over them. I was asking regular girls out on dates just as I would do here at home. I was just expecting to get more yes than no compared to here. I did but not by a large margin. I took the girls out to eat (sometimes even one of their friends), to the movies and even bought some small gifts for one of them. Even when DIA girls showed up and did not live up to the photo I simply made an excuse like I had a sudden "business meeting" and gave them some money for taxi before parting ways. In no way was I harsh or mean to any girls. And yes I know my success rate here is higher in the PI due to the economic advantage, I'm not retarded. So please don't jump to conclusions.
3 days is not alot of time. Lots of airlines fly into Cebu. I am flying in on Korean. If you only have 3 days and you do decide on Cebu. You are in SE asia then I would look at flying in then and skip Mln.
Only if you are going to do Cebu and PI only 3 days.
Rubio Tonto
08-21-10, 01:27
I'd also have to second (or third) what's been already written in this forum about your situation, and I'd also like to put in a good word for the Dumaguete area, especially Valencia. I originally thought that when you mentioned Valencia, it was the Negros Oriental Valencia (suburb of Dumaguete) and not the one on Mindanao. The one near Dumaguete is a little bit cooler in temperature than Duma, as it sits on the lower slope of a huge volcano to the west. You also have the added benefit of Silliman University in Dumaguete (many nursing students), plus there is a very generous utility subsidy you get if you live in Valencia.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Valencia,_Negros_Oriental
Other places that are higher in elevation and thus cooler in temperature are the Baguio/Banaue/Sagada area in the Mountain Province of Northern Luzon, and the Tagaytay/Lake Taal area to the southwest of Manila, which I believe is in Cavite Province.
Out of the three areas I mentioned, Valencia and Tagaytay almost certainly have better and quicker access to health care than the northern area.
PolyOrchid
08-21-10, 03:07
Sorry what made you think that I treated the girls poorly or disrespected them? So please don't jump to conclusions.Toronto,
My comments were not directed at you personally, in fact, I liked your post. I was just saying. If I offended, please accept my apologies, it was not my intention. And better luck next time. As we all know, this is a hit and miss game.
All the best,
Polyorchid
Valencia, it was the Negros Oriental Valencia (suburb of Dumaguete).
Well this is the first time I have heard of this place. I do know of Valencia in Bukidnon Mindanao. I appreciate the info, I will look into that more, as I believe I would like to find a more hilly, cooler place to live. Any more info, please post it.
Siam Dreamer
08-21-10, 03:57
RB,
I have spent much time Manila and while I like it I prefer CebuanasThank you for commenting. Also can you elaborate more on the differences between Manila girls vs. Cebuanas? Which is better and why?
Also - I like darker complexioned Filpinas - fit spinner types but thick (not skinny). Are they more common in Manila or Cebu?>
Well this is the first time I have heard of this place. I do know of Valencia in Bukidnon Mindanao. I appreciate the info, I will look into that more, as I believe I would like to find a more hilly, cooler place to live. Any more info, please post it.Baguio, north of Manila, sounds like the place you would like to be.
Valencia, Negros. Somehow wealthy from geothermal power I've heard, and I'm sure it helps to be near Dumaguete (nice town) and Apo Island (dive/resort destination).
I went to the falls, and it was fabulous. Next time I will go to Twin Lakes, maybe go hiking. If you have game, you can find women here. I did. If you have doubts, bring your own.
Well this is the first time I have heard of this place. I do know of Valencia in Bukidnon Mindanao. I appreciate the info, I will look into that more, as I believe I would like to find a more hilly, cooler place to live. Any more info, please post it.
Every once in a while, someone asks what is DIA or CB, whcih is Date in Asia the or Cherry blossom, both pen pal / chat sites which are good places to meet ladies for future rendezvous.
As for LBFM, well that struck me as all wrong when I first saw it in 1980 and it still strikes me as racist. In those days you could buy a t'shirt with LBFMFOR. LtlBrwnFknMachines Fd on Rice. Get it?
How about FAWBFOM, or Fat ass white boys fed on McD.
If you want to hear another story from the good old days, the local mafia would figure out where the Marine guard had his family or other weak point and then suggest he kindly look away when when they smuggled out. Stuff. More than a few good marines ended up in prison trying to do the right thing. Go figure. It's a tough world.
Nothing personal Raverboy, it's just that I'm surprised to see this ancient acronym still finding itself in the posts.
Gentlemen,
Am giving myself a little treat with a 5D4N night trip to MNL soon for a bit of shopping and a lot of fun. As someone who lives in a ASEAN country and has mongered all around SE Asia, this will be a return to the PI in search of that sweet brand of LBFM Pinay GFE that is a little different from my other usual destination for LBFM. CGK.
Would like to do an informal poll here, I've never been to CEB before, so thought I would break the 5D4N into 3 nights CEB, 1 night MNL. Is that 1N too many for an initial taste? Is the short detour worth making at all, or should I just not bother and stay in MNL the whole time?
The idea came about due to the closure of that institution in Ermita that we are all so fond of.. Seriously.
Gotta get my post count up.
Sorry its late. I've been crusading.
Arrived Aug. 1 a little tired. Not that long a flight but delays in Manila.
Was there in April and had a No. 1 choice from Tagged. Gorgeous. But she wanted me to go to SM mall and I said no....meet me at Robinson's Osmena. I'll give you cab fare on hello so if you don't like me you can leave at any time. Just more if, if, if from her so I just moved on to No. 2. I don't fool around playing text games with someone....if they can come then come, if not I dont bother.
Anyway, she had been sending me messages on Tagged to meet her this time so I told her that I would phone her once, if she had any excuses I'd just delete her number. She arrived in a cab at the Mango Park and she was definitely worth the wait. Well, it seemed so at first. I got her in her bikini immediately then took the top off and she had a wonderful set. Puffy nipples too. Just how I like them. Went for the money spot and she said she had her period. And by the way, could I buy her a cell phone. We'll talk about it, I said. She then starts about a ten minute text, finishes, then starts to put her top back on. Ok, you're going home now. She left without a fuss, but that night she sent me about 35 texts begging to come back. Nope.
Next day things weren't looking that great, so I texted her. Sure I want to come over, but can you help me with my financial problem? 20,000p. Click.
That night I got someone from Tagged but only average. Again, after the deed....I have a problem. I need 1,800 for tuition. Hey, you never mentioned anything about money. Here's 1,000. Good luck. She texted the next day but not interested. But it gets better.
Met a 19 year old good looking, hot body on Tagged. Can my mom come too? Sure, for dinner then she leaves, ok? Fine.
Met them at Robinson's. Mother very shy. The girl is cute. Made sure she was 19. Tell you why later. Bought them a cake for the kid's back home and put the mom in a cab. Was screwing here within a half hour of hitting the hotel room. She couldn't stay overnight because of school, but I dont mind that. Gave her 1,000 p on leaving and she looked at me as if to say.....why? Spent the next day with her too. Bought her a cheap but good Samsung cell phone as she didn't have one.
Spanish Filipina. Tagged again. Arranged to meet again at Robinsons. While waiting a very hot filipina, brown short shorts , but not slutty, beautiful wavy hair and about 5' 3' walks out front where I'm waiting for my Tagged girls cab. I'm gonna be really disappointed now because my Tagged girls nowhere near this hot. I stare at her hoping she'll notice but she doesn't. Maybe she's waiting on her bf. I don't know. Text from the Tagged girl. I'm here now. Where are you? I'm out front she says. I turn around and it's THAT GIRL.
We laugh. I tell her the truth. I was gonna be disappointed...blah blah blah. Back to the Diplomat for a full body couple's massage. 250 p each. The masseuse gets only 60 p. They give you a small brown envelope when finished. Please tip. They need it and the massage is worth it.
You know she's gonna be hot when on first kiss she sucks your tongue right into her mouth. Honestly, I stared at the woman's face for a half hour trying to find a flaw, and couldn't. However she has a one year old kid. Her stomach was perfect, ass good too, but the boobs were shot. She climbed on for a ride and one point and I started to go limp looking at those floppy boobs. She was disappointed, but I didn't tell her why I stopped. I asked if she liked doggy. YES! she screamed. This girl starts moaning, even grunting from the word go.
She stayd for a couple of nights. Bought her a cell phone too.
Met a 19 year old near the end of the week. Brought her friend. Hotter than her. Shocked to find out the friend was only 15. She looked 20 if she was a day. The first girl sounded a little rehearsed. Talking about tough times in Phils. I wished them luck and gave them 500p. Thanks, that pays my ride and lunch all month. No problem.
Quick call to the Spanish filipina. Plans changed. Meet me at the hotel? Sure.
Bopalula
Wicked Roger
08-21-10, 12:47
Gotta get my post count up.
Sorry its late. I've been crusading.
Met a 19 year old near the end of the week. Brought her friend. Hotter than her. Shocked to find out the friend was only 15. She looked 20 if she was a day. The first girl sounded a little rehearsed. Talking about tough times in Phils. I wished them luck and gave them 500p. Thanks, that pays my ride and lunch all month. No problem.
Quick call to the Spanish filipina. Plans changed. Meet me at the hotel? Sure.
Bopalula
Good FR Bop...you see you contribute and dont crusade all is well in the world. Remember, many fake IDs there so be warned....
WestCoast1
08-21-10, 16:06
Met them at Robinson's. Mother very shy. The girl is cute. Made sure she was 19. Tell you why later. Bought them a cake for the kid's back home and put the mom in a cab. Was screwing here within a half hour of hitting the hotel room. She couldn't stay overnight because of school, but I dont mind that. Gave her 1,000 p on leaving and she looked at me as if to say.....why? Spent the next day with her too. Bought her a cheap but good Samsung cell phone as she didn't have one.
BopalulaBop, great field report. I was in Cebu 'bout a week ago, had amazing success at Robinson's. Could not walk into the place without walking out with one (or two) pinay on my arm. Before this trip to Cebu, I never considered the mall as a great place to meet girls (just lucky sometimes). But I got a pair of girls together one day in Ayala, two pair a few days later in Robinson's in the same day, and I got hit on similarly by two girls in Gaisano. I'm not talking the girls hanging outside on the street. I mean walking along with a coffee in hand when two cuties pass by and say, "Sir? Where are you going, sir? Really sir? Can we come with you?" Below is an aunt/niece combo, I bought them drinks at Starbucks. The mall had barely opened. They quickly admitted they were desperate for money to get back to the province, and would stay with me all day and do anything I needed done. The aunt is on the right, 27, the niece is 18. I put p100 load on the niece's phone before leaving the mall, and gave them p500 each for the afternoon's work. Later in the evening, the niece was txting that she had a friend who wanted to come over and earn some pesos also. I love them malls.
GoodEnough
08-21-10, 17:33
Speaking of the "age thing." It's the end of Davao's Kadayawan Festival tonight, and we made the serious mistake of driving into the middle of town for dinner. Coping with the lunacy and plain stupidity of the drivers was more stressful than usual because any vehicle with a motor and wheels was in the downtown area, and I'm astounded that I didn't see a single motor scooter get run over, but that's another story.
There were thousands of people on foot, in town partying tonight. The bars, the restaurants and the clubs were packed tight, and the crowd was overwhelmingly young. I'm sure most of these folks were just out for a good time, but there were lots who were also on the prowl for subsidized fun and games, and among those were lots of very sexily dress women who looked very young to my jaundiced eye. I'm reminded once again of how difficult it can be to distinguish between a 15 year old and an 18 year old here, and how serious the consequences can be if you guess incorrectly. Since phony IDs can be bought about as easily as beer, there's no foolproof way of protecting yourself. So when in doubt, it's probably best just to run away.
GE
Hug Monster
08-21-10, 17:51
I would like to have a little input on these two hotels, Thank You. When I RTFF I often hear about the Diplomat Hotel, but I have gotten a few different opinions. On their website, it looks pretty decent and I have heard that they are pretty GF. However There is another Hotel in Cebu for about the same price on Expedia called The Sampaguita. But I never hear about this on The Forum. Do some of you have an opinion about the Sampaguita, clean? GF? Safe? And how does it compare to the Diplomat?
Thank You!
Gogobarlover
08-21-10, 20:36
I would like to have a little input on these two hotels, Thank You. When I RTFF I often hear about the Diplomat Hotel, but I have gotten a few different opinions. On their website, it looks pretty decent and I have heard that they are pretty GF. However There is another Hotel in Cebu for about the same price on Expedia called The Sampaguita. But I never hear about this on The Forum. Do some of you have an opinion about the Sampaguita, clean? GF? Safe? And how does it compare to the Diplomat?
Thank You!
It's a cheap and clean hotel but, it's in an area that is out of the way from the action. The room amenities is not much. There is no in-room safe. It is located near the Magellans Cross which is south of Diplomat hotel. Sampaguita Suites is cheap but, I wouldn't want to be staying around that area though. You're far from the gogo bars on Mango Avenue. There is gogo bars in the downtown area but, I would consider downdown cebu to be more dangerous especially at night time. Plus, I feel the quality of the girls are nicer at the gogo bars on Mango Avenue.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/sampaguita_suites_plaza_garcia.html
See my videos of Diplomat Hotel
Lobby Area of Diplomat Hotel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csjPpTLkBAw&feature=related
Room 704 of Diplomat Hotel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixxFOgwkgxE
WestCoast1
08-21-10, 21:50
I would like to have a little input on these two hotels, Thank You. When I RTFF I often hear about the Diplomat Hotel, but I have gotten a few different opinions. On their website, it looks pretty decent and I have heard that they are pretty GF. However There is another Hotel in Cebu for about the same price on Expedia called The Sampaguita. But I never hear about this on The Forum. Do some of you have an opinion about the Sampaguita, clean? GF? Safe? And how does it compare to the Diplomat?
Thank You!Sampaguita is right in the Osmena circle. Kind of a rough place, but the walk 1/2 mile down Ramos street from Robinson's Mall (also in the circle) is also kind of rough (at night). Sampaguita is clean and inexpensive, but staying in the circle is not my cup of tea. Too many pick-pockets. No room-safe. The rooms are a bit less at Sampaguita than Diplomat. Have stayed at both, prefer Diplomat.
Gogo, nice vids of Diplomat, exactly as I remembered it. My room last time looked exactly like the room in your vid. Each time I stay at the Diplomat, the same problem occurs upon check-in. I use the hotel's website to book my Deluxe room (not standard, but deluxe). The standard room on the website has two single (twin in the US) beds. The deluxe has one single and one queen bed on the website. I prefer the larger bed, in fact I never book a room with single beds. But, each time upon check-in, the girl at the desk sees my passport, grabs a sheet of paper with customer names and associated room numbers hand-written on it, then gives me a standard room. The bellboy takes me to the room, which has two single beds. Have to go back down to the lobby to switch rooms. They look at me like I'm from Mars, and tell me I booked a standard room. I fish out the online receipt and show them.
girl: Ohhh... don't know how this happen sir. All out of deluxe room tonight. Maybe tomorrow we get you one ya.
me: Yes, and you will only charge me for the standard room tonight, yes?
Suspicious shuffling of papers, and a quick key-exchange occurs as they magically find me the deluxe room. After the first two times there, I learned just to show the online receipt with my passport upon check-in. This is the only unseemly thing that occurs there. Everything else is above-board, and they offer a modestly competitive exchange rate for dollars (45) at the front desk. Security is just outside at the entrance. In the walkway into the hotel is also a travel agency and a legit wonderful massage place (p300).
Never a problem bringing up girls there. One morning I walked a girl out (chatmate) about 8am for breakfast. About 11am I walked back in with two girls from Robinson's mall just up the street (p500 each). 2pm walked them out to the street. Napped and went back to the mall to hit the internet, and thru shear luck got another two girls from the mall, walking in about 4:30 thru the lobby with them. Walked them out about 7-8pm to the street (p500 each). This should have made every employed head in the place spin. About 10pm I went down the street to a coffee shop, oggled the street girls by the mall. Grabbed one for LT and headed back in about 11 (was too tired for funsie, just took her to cap off a wild day and have a pretty warm thing to cuddle with and play with in the morning - agreed to p1000 for the evening). This kind of bang-bang-bang thing is rare. Thus, the Diplomat will always have a special place in my heart.
Both of the above are closer to Mango than the Diplomat! But, that's ok,
seems like Hug Monster needs to walk a bit. Apple Tree Suites is cleaner
and has a good rooftop cafe plus free wifi.
Check out at www.appletreesuites.com
Peace,
Cheapy
It's a cheap and clean hotel but, it's in an area that is out of the way from the action. The room amenities is not much. There is no in-room safe. It is located near the Magellans Cross which is south of Diplomat hotel. Sampaguita Suites is cheap but, I wouldn't want to be staying around that area though. You're far from the gogo bars on Mango Avenue. There is gogo bars in the downtown area but, I would consider downdown cebu to be more dangerous especially at night time. Plus, I feel the quality of the girls are nicer at the gogo bars on Mango Avenue.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/sampaguita_suites_plaza_garcia.html
See my videos of Diplomat Hotel
Lobby Area of Diplomat Hotel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csjPpTLkBAw&feature=related
Room 704 of Diplomat Hotel
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ixxFOgwkgxE
For guys in Cebu, or planning to be in Cebu, there is a girl called Reica who passes herself off as 18 years old.
When she turned up in my room with her friend, she said that she was 18. But she looked younger. Then I got a heads up from a friend, who said she is 16.
When I asked for ID, she went home and returned with a form in a plastic cover which showed her date of birth.
This form is called a Cedula, and the person can write anything on it.
So I knocked her back.
Stay clear.
G
Clean, but at that price very simple- some rooms with no windows or just a wall for a view. I think the lobby is on the second floor, and the rooms above that. I don't remember an elevator. I've never stayed there, just checked it out and decided not to stay there.
Consider Holiday Plaza which goes for 1800 for one, but I usally book for two at 2000. Fairly good breakfast buffet included and has an elevator.
These two places are both a short walk from Robinsons at the Fuente Osmena circle.
I would like to have a little input on these two hotels, Thank You. When I RTFF I often hear about the Diplomat Hotel, but I have gotten a few different opinions. On their website, it looks pretty decent and I have heard that they are pretty GF. However There is another Hotel in Cebu for about the same price on Expedia called The Sampaguita. But I never hear about this on The Forum. Do some of you have an opinion about the Sampaguita, clean? GF? Safe? And how does it compare to the Diplomat?
Thank You!
Lots of women in Cebu and more willing than Manila and Angeles City.
Good times
Gogobarlover
08-22-10, 06:00
Both of the above are closer to Mango than the Diplomat! But, that's ok,
seems like Hug Monster needs to walk a bit. Apple Tree Suites is cleaner
and has a good rooftop cafe plus free wifi.
Check out at www.appletreesuites.com
Peace,
Cheapy
Aaah... I see now. The Sampaguita suits JRG is the one near Mango Avenue. The Sampaguita plaza garcia is the one farther away.
Good FR Bop...you see you contribute and dont crusade all is well in the world. Remember, many fake IDs there so be warned....Thanks buddy,
I just got an email from the 19 year old. Her mom is sick in the hospital, can I send 5,800p? Now while there is about a 99% chance its a bs story, there's also about a 99% chance that they do need the money anyway.
I've never sent a peso to anyone, but I'm considering it. I'm fully aware of all the 'get the foreigner's money' strategies, but I may do it anyways.
That leads me to this:
I never get bar girls in PI. Too many dicks been in there for my liking. Which means it's legit (ya, I know) girls from dating sites, etc.
Problem is when I leave and they're left hoping.
Believe me, I'm no Shrinking Violet, and I'm not feminine as one poster suggested, but sometimes I wonder if it just wouldn't be easier to pay a pro and avoid the residual pain for the girl.
My strategy so far has been to tell them
a) I don't want a long distance relationship or
b) I 'm sorry but your English isn't good enough for us to have the deep relationship that I'm looking for.
Any other ideas?
Bopalula
Starchild2012
08-22-10, 11:31
Bop, great field report. I was in Cebu 'bout a week ago, had amazing success at Robinson's. Could not walk into the place without walking out with one (or two) pinay on my arm. Before this trip to Cebu, I never considered the mall as a great place to meet girls (just lucky sometimes). But I got a pair of girls together one day in Ayala, two pair a few days later in Robinson's in the same day, and I got hit on similarly by two girls in Gaisano. I'm not talking the girls hanging outside on the street. I mean walking along with a coffee in hand when two cuties pass by and say, "Sir? Where are you going, sir? Really sir? Can we come with you?" Below is an aunt/niece combo, I bought them drinks at Starbucks. The mall had barely opened. They quickly admitted they were desperate for money to get back to the province, and would stay with me all day and do anything I needed done. The aunt is on the right, 27, the niece is 18. I put p100 load on the niece's phone before leaving the mall, and gave them p500 each for the afternoon's work. Later in the evening, the niece was txting that she had a friend who wanted to come over and earn some pesos also. I love them malls.
Yep...it doesn't get easier than this..Cebu is a paradise infact all of Ph is if one plays the cards right...:)
Hug Monster
08-22-10, 12:08
Sampaguita is right in the Osmena circle. Kind of a rough place, but the walk 1/2 mile down Ramos street from Robinson's Mall (also in the circle) is also kind of rough (at night). Sampaguita is clean and inexpensive, but staying in the circle is not my cup of tea. Too many pick-pockets. No room-safe. The rooms are a bit less at Sampaguita than Diplomat. Have stayed at both, prefer Diplomat.
Gogo, nice vids of Diplomat, exactly as I remembered it. My room last time looked exactly like the room in your vid. Each time I stay at the Diplomat, the same problem occurs upon check-in. I use the hotel's website to book my Deluxe room (not standard, but deluxe). The standard room on the website has two single (twin in the US) beds. The deluxe has one single and one queen bed on the website. I prefer the larger bed, in fact I never book a room with single beds. But, each time upon check-in, the girl at the desk sees my passport, grabs a sheet of paper with customer names and associated room numbers hand-written on it, then gives me a standard room. The bellboy takes me to the room, which has two single beds. Have to go back down to the lobby to switch rooms. They look at me like I'm from Mars, and tell me I booked a standard room. I fish out the online receipt and show them.
Girl: Ohhh. Don't know how this happen sir. All out of deluxe room tonight. Maybe tomorrow we get you one ya. Me: Yes, and you will only charge me for the standard room tonight, yes?
Suspicious shuffling of papers, and a quick key-exchange occurs as they magically find me the deluxe room. After the first two times there, I learned just to show the online receipt with my passport upon check-in. This is the only unseemly thing that occurs there. Everything else is above-board, and they offer a modestly competitive exchange rate for dollars (45) at the front desk. Security is just outside at the entrance. In the walkway into the hotel is also a travel agency and a legit wonderful massage place (p300).
Never a problem bringing up girls there. One morning I walked a girl out (chatmate) about 8am for breakfast. About 11am I walked back in with two girls from Robinson's mall just up the street (p500 each). 2pm walked them out to the street. Napped and went back to the mall to hit the internet, and thru shear luck got another two girls from the mall, walking in about 4:30 thru the lobby with them. Walked them out about 7-8pm to the street (p500 each). This should have made every employed head in the place spin. About 10pm I went down the street to a coffee shop, oggled the street girls by the mall. Grabbed one for LT and headed back in about 11 (was too tired for funsie, just took her to cap off a wild day and have a pretty warm thing to cuddle with and play with in the morning. Agreed to p1000 for the evening). This kind of bang-bang-bang thing is rare. Thus, the Diplomat will always have a special place in my heart.WestCoast talked about the front desk at the Diplomat trying to "Cheat" him out of a Deluxe room, and how he solved the problem. How about this idea for a solution? When I talked to the people at EXPEDIA, they told me that if I get to my hotel and have booked it by way of EXPEDIA, if I am not happy with the room I am given, I can ask the front desk to contact EXPEDIA and they will make the hotel do the right thing.
Hug Monster
08-22-10, 12:31
Everyone has been so helpful to me about everything and I am happy to find out just how GF the Diplomat is. The Sampaguita sounds like a bad idea, in addition to not even having a room safe in it. WestCoast... May I ask your age? Seems like you are doing well with the ladies. I may weigh 360 lbs., but people say I don't look that heavy, because I have broad shoulders and I am 6'2". I am 50, and I have a young personality, so maybe I will do okay in Cebu.
GregLondon
08-22-10, 13:57
Those seeking something a little different maybe interested in an American girl girl working here. OK she's not exactly the tall blond type, she's infact a 40kg half Filipina who was born in Guam and thus (according to her) has a US passport. She just dropped by with her friend tryinmg to score some snacks and i offered to try and drum up some biz for her. She hangs around with Filipina friend who is now 7 months pregnant despite being only 17 and having a BF in jail (conjugal visits). The US girl has a couple of tattoos and a nose piercing but a very cute petite body and (if scrubbed up a little) a rather beautiful face. Quite sensibly IMHO she is only available for short time "regular" sex with a condom at 500P a go. Her English is actually pretty good and she's quite smart. I don't really understand why she has gone down the route she has but there you are. PM me if you are interested in contact details. They are "from the wrong side of the tracks" so it would be advisable nopt to leave cash or valuable around if you decide to meet her
WestCoast1
08-22-10, 17:27
Lots of women in Cebu and more willing than Manila and Angeles City.
Good timesMBSL, Star, concur. Usually in the past when I was in Cebu its been with a gf for a few days. Cebu is definitely different than Manila. I was very surprised at how the girls there were so willing to just chat me up looking for a quick score, much more so than Manila (except for Harrison's there). Can't wait to get back now.
Stroker Ace88
08-22-10, 18:07
I am thinking of staying at the Sarrosa International Hotel for a few days as the price online is 1900P per day and the rooms are nice and the hotel seems fairly new. I have never stayed here and it is newly listed on the hotel booking websites.
It is located at F. Cabahug st. Cor. Pres. Quirino Ayala Access road, Mabolo. I know this is out of the way from Mango and I am ok with that. The money I save on staying at one of the bigger hotels like Parklane, Crown Regency Fuente or Waterfront will more than make up for the money I will spend in taxis. Has anyone stayed here before, what is the area around the hotel like? Comments?
I am looking for a good hotel that is clean, had a queen sized bed and is GF friendly. Any other suggestions? I also plan to stay at the Diplomat, Mango Park and maybe even the Grand Prix Econotel to check them out.
Jackson, is it possible to create a seperate "Cebu Hotels" thread, thanks.
Hug Monster
08-22-10, 21:35
Liza's in the 'manpark' area of Mandaue enjoyed their 10th anniversary party. Roast pig, pig blood extraveganza, turkey, fish, etc... EWR is 1500. This is the place that is tricky to get to, but worth the effort.
Pussycats formerly known as Stars and even before that known as Exotic has transformed as others have noted earlier. If you remember the old place and layout, you can't help notice how the circle stage was cut right in half. I'll never forget sitting opposite of some bloke who was getting serviced at his seat. About alls I could see was his smiling face and her head bobbing up and down. I probably wouldn't have even noticed if the gal sitting next to me hadn't told me.
Temptation seems to be the bar of choice for the koreans now. They even did a few of their stupid lineups right there in the bar. Four guys...lined up at least twenty gals....some girls fidget, some try to fade into the background, but most seem eager to be selected. In the end, no one was chosen. Duh.
Silver Dollar has no A/c, still trying to pull it together after their fire. The place they opened up near Stripes bar has apparently closed. I nominate Stripes as the place that most deserves to close / burn / whatever. Bad vibes.
I still haven't had time to see if the St. Moritz bar is still going. Hope so.
X ManWay beyond EXPECTATIONS? I am referring to the middle of the 2nd paragraph here, where the guy is being "Serviced" at his seat. I have RTFF for more than two months now and going back into a lot of old reports, but I didn't know how much "Contact" was allowed with the dancers while you are "Out in the open" at the club. So here is my question If I went to a club that has dancers, how much hugging, kissing, touching is allowed, as long as I keep buying ladies drinks for the girl?
Gogobarlover
08-22-10, 23:04
I am thinking of staying at the Sarrosa International Hotel for a few days as the price online is 1900P per day and the rooms are nice and the hotel seems fairly new. I have never stayed here and it is newly listed on the hotel booking websites.
It is located at F. Cabahug st. Cor. Pres. Quirino Ayala Access road, Mabolo. I know this is out of the way from Mango and I am ok with that. The money I save on staying at one of the bigger hotels like Parklane, Crown Regency Fuente or Waterfront will more than make up for the money I will spend in taxis. Has anyone stayed here before, what is the area around the hotel like? Comments?
I am looking for a good hotel that is clean, had a queen sized bed and is GF friendly. Any other suggestions? I also plan to stay at the Diplomat, Mango Park and maybe even the Grand Prix Econotel to check them out.
Jackson, is it possible to create a seperate "Cebu Hotels" thread, thanks.
Consider the Cebu Grand Hotel on North Escario St. It is not far from Mango Avenue. Also, there is 3 gogo bars nearby. Stripes, Blue Angels and the new Silver Dollar 2.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/cebu_grand_hotel.html
I'm curious myself about Grand Prix Econo hotel. It is in a good location right at the corner of Mango and F. Ramos Rd. No windows though in the rooms.
GregLondon
08-23-10, 00:35
Consider the Cebu Grand Hotel on North Escario St. It is not far from Mango Avenue. Also, there is 3 gogo bars nearby. Stripes, Blue Angels and the new Silver Dollar 2.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/cebu_grand_hotel.html
I'm curious myself about Grand Prix Econo hotel. It is in a good location right at the corner of Mango and F. Ramos Rd. No windows though in the rooms.
the Grand Prix is an OK hotel but the rooms will seem claustrophobic after a day or two as dont have windows. The rooms / furnishings are reasonably new and functional. Its a reasonably choice if you have a night or two in Cebu and want somewhere near Robinsons that is clean and newish .
Last month I was told the new Silver Dollar 2 had already closed, and therefore I didn't even look for it. I'm not in Cebu at the moment, so can someone confirm?
I like Blue Angels, but I find the talent hit and miss...mostly miss. Stripes...best to experience it yourself, but I've gotten bad vibes both times I went there.
Consider the Cebu Grand Hotel on North Escario St. It is not far from Mango Avenue. Also, there is 3 gogo bars nearby. Stripes, Blue Angels and the new Silver Dollar 2.
http://www.agoda.com/asia/philippines/cebu/cebu_grand_hotel.html
I'm curious myself about Grand Prix Econo hotel. It is in a good location right at the corner of Mango and F. Ramos Rd. No windows though in the rooms.
J Smith 5023
08-23-10, 11:18
Last month I was told the new Silver Dollar 2 had already closed, and therefore I didn't even look for it. I'm not in Cebu at the moment, so can someone confirm?
I like Blue Angels, but I find the talent hit and miss...mostly miss. Stripes...best to experience it yourself, but I've gotten bad vibes both times I went there.Silver Dollar has AC back now
J Smith 5023
08-23-10, 11:19
Those seeking something a little different maybe interested in an American girl girl working here. OK she's not exactly the tall blond type, she's infact a 40kg half Filipina who was born in Guam and thus (according to her) has a US passport. She just dropped by with her friend tryinmg to score some snacks and I offered to try and drum up some biz for her. She hangs around with Filipina friend who is now 7 months pregnant despite being only 17 and having a BF in jail (conjugal visits). The US girl has a couple of tattoos and a nose piercing but a very cute petite body and (if scrubbed up a little) a rather beautiful face. Quite sensibly IMHO she is only available for short time "regular" sex with a condom at 500P a go. Her English is actually pretty good and she's quite smart. I don't really understand why she has gone down the route she has but there you are. PM me if you are interested in contact details. They are "from the wrong side of the tracks" so it would be advisable nopt to leave cash or valuable around if you decide to meet herPm me for details?
I just got an email from a friend who is in Cebu right now and he mentioned that barfine in the gogo's is 1700P and then the girls want another 1500P in the morning. I have limited experience in the PI, 8 days in Manilla in 2000, but the extra 1500P didn't sound right to me, so I did some quick RTFF here and it seems to me that the going rate is 1700P barfine, and the girl gets 1000P of that, and that guys tip between 0-500P, but it is up to them. I just want to make sure that I got this right before emailing him to let him know what the deal is.
Thanks in advance and normally I would do some more research, but I want to get back to him quickly in case he is getting ripped off.
Stroker Ace88
08-23-10, 18:07
Last month I was told the new Silver Dollar 2 had already closed, and therefore I didn't even look for it. I'm not in Cebu at the moment, so can someone confirm?
It was open in July. I frequent the Lavada Queen right next door, and to me SD2 looked like a quickly thrown together place due to the generator fire that happened in the original Silver Dollar location. I did not go inside but it was reported here to be closed soon after.
I like Blue Angels, but I find the talent hit and miss...mostly miss.
I went bar hopping with a girl in tow one night to check out the gogo's on Escario, and I liked Blue Angels but the talent was not very good. Mostly late twenties with kids and no spinners anywhere.
Stripes best to experience it yourself, but I've gotten bad vibes both times I went there.
I agree about the bad vibes at this bar. I found the place very small and the talent looked bored and seems more into chatting with each other. With the super small stage, and only one dancer at a time, it was not a good vibe. I asked one of the three bartenders what the barfine was and she had this deer in the healights look. Never did get an answer. I do not think I will return any time soon.
Just wondering if anyone has checked out the original Silver Dollar on Osmena Boul. recently, is it still running on a portable generator? I checked out this place three times in July and it was going downhill fast. The quality girls left soon after the fire, leaving only the older girls and the place is a mess with a billion cockroaches running around. Go there in the evening and sit where Chris and John have there little metal names placed on the bar, and look on the floor or on the bar, and it will be crawling with roaches. The only reason to go here is the cheap and cold SML.
I haven't stayed in the Sarrosa Hotel but know people that have and it is fine, good value.
A short taxi ride from Ayala and a pretty good location to be honest.
WestCoast1
08-24-10, 02:08
I just got an email from a friend who is in Cebu right now and he mentioned that barfine in the gogo's is 1700P and then the girls want another 1500P in the morning. I have limited experience in the PI, 8 days in Manilla in 2000, but the extra 1500P didn't sound right to me, so I did some quick RTFF here and it seems to me that the going rate is 1700P barfine, and the girl gets 1000P of that, and that guys tip between 0-500P, but it is up to them. I just want to make sure that I got this right before emailing him to let him know what the deal is.
Thanks in advance and normally I would do some more research, but I want to get back to him quickly in case he is getting ripped off.Booey, I recently took two girls, one girl each night from two different gogo's on Mango. These bars are just a few blocks up the street from the Mango Square bars/discos (where the young locals hang out for live band). About 5 bars all right next to each other next to an intersection. Vikings, Sister's, etc. Across the street is a large white church (Iglesia Ni Christo, see pic) and several more gogos with dancing girls. On the Viking/Sister's side, the barfine was p1700 in each bar. The only exception was that in the one next to Sister's, it was an extra p1000 (p2700) if you took a girl before 11pm? 1am? Can't remember the exact time. Almost pulled a stunner from there one night till they tried to tack on the extra 1000. I was a bit steamed as the girl said p1700, the mama said 1700, and during the drink the girl said she was desperate for a barfine, would do anything I wanted, and stay not only till 10am as I asked, but all afternoon if I wanted. I told her to go get dressed and send the mama over for payment. They both came back and said p2700, sorry sir we forgot to mention early extra payment. C-ya.
One of the girls I pulled was from Vikings. P1700 was the barfine. Sessioned once in the evening and morning, and I gave the girl p100 the next morning for taxi after we had breakfast, about 10: 30am. She never said spit about a tip, and asked me to barfine her again that night. I did return to Vikings the second night, she was all over me, preventing me from getting another girl, so I left after one drink. No tip is needed unless you are feeling generous.
At Sister's bar, a few doors down from Vikings, I took a young spinner, p1700 again. We left the bar around 10: 30, hit Sunflower disco and caught some live band and a nightcap before heading back to the hotel. Good session, but no tip, she ran early, leaving after we went to sleep, sneaking out at 3:30am. Had agreed in the bar to stay till 10am. Story on this runner later. While she was changing clothes in the bar (out of her bikini), I asked the mama if a tip was necessary in the morning. "Up to you sir, if you like. " Just that. I did not plan to tip her more than the 100 as usual.
At one point I went across the street from Vikings to check out the bars there, they are very close to the church. Nice place, small, about 10 girls. Two were chatting me up (no LD), and quoted p3000 for the barfine. C-ya, have to get back across the street hun.
I've had 6-7 girls now from the Mango/Vikings side of the street in the last year. So far:
1 runner recently as mentioned.
2 stayed much later. One just hung with me till about 4pm. One went to the beach with me, stayed till about 5pm (very happy girl).
The rest stayed until 10am as asked.
Tip is always p100 for taxi. In the case of the girls who stayed longer, tip also 100 for taxi, but also breakfast, lunch, starbucks in the afternoon. I would say this about your friend: its possible the girls are just asking for the tip IN THE MORNING. Just say no; tell them they should have discussed it in the bar before leaving. If your normal tip for good service is p300, give them that. Pinay are good at making cano feel guilty. Stick to it. If the girl mentions she wants a p1500 tip while you are chatting her in the bar (like they do on P Burgos St in Makati), you are obligated to give it to her the next day. But I have yet to have a Mango/Vikings girl mention a tip, for anything. I would hazard a guess that the girls at the high-priced place across the street by the church do this regularly (maybe that's where this big-tip thing is coming from).
WestCoast1
08-24-10, 02:22
Just wondering if anyone has checked out the original Silver Dollar on Osmena Boul. recently, is it still running on a portable generator? I checked out this place three times in July and it was going downhill fast. The quality girls left soon after the fire, leaving only the older girls and the place is a mess with a billion cockroaches running around. Go there in the evening and sit where Chris and John have there little metal names placed on the bar, and look on the floor or on the bar, and it will be crawling with roaches. The only reason to go here is the cheap and cold SML.Yes, was in SD about 2 weeks ago. Never been there before. There was a TV station in the hotel that was playing advertisements repeatedly, and SD had a commercial. Mention the commercial to the bartender on your first visit, and your first drink was free. So I took the taxi there. What a dump. There was a fire previously? Its the one not far from the large Crowne Regency hotel? Its dark, skinny, hot (evap cooler and fans, not air con). 4 working girls inside, 2 chatting each other, one walking around, one danced a bit. They were all 5-7 scale quality, even in the dark. Finally the walker sat with me. There was only myself and one other customer. Neither of the two bartenders bothered to come take my drink order. I asked the girl if she could get me a san mig. She did, the bartender brought it and put the bill in front of me. I asked if it was free, since it was my first time there and saw the commercial. He asked me to pay for it right then, and said my second drink would be free. Jeez he didn't even wait till I was done drinking to collect the total. I paid, and was ready to walk as soon as the drink was gone. It was so hot I was feeling the need for fresh air. I asked the girl chatting me how much the barfine was, I think she said 3000-something (last part unintelligible, the music was loud). I said, "Three thousand what? " She nodded her head yes. Didn't bother finishing the beer. Gone.
I did a quick trip to Mango Ave. couple nights ago.
Drinks: p80-100
Ladies drinks p150-200
I went to almost every bar and Vikings looks the best. However, too many Korean and Japanese customers. Girls told me that they prefer them since they spent money like no tomorrow. Americans like myself come after them. I have noticed that girls flirt with the asian tourists first.
Starbucks is out of the way and the second Starbucks is in the mall and in an odd location. However,
Bo's Coffee on second floor.
Seattle's Best Coffee on the first floor.
are the best places to to hangout and look for the chicks. Ayala has a much higher quality clientele. Also watch out for the ladyboys. They look nice and feminine enough to fool you. Many of the girls like to hang out where the richer clientele is at.
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.
Gogobarlover
08-24-10, 03:12
I just got an email from a friend who is in Cebu right now and he mentioned that barfine in the gogo's is 1700P and then the girls want another 1500P in the morning. I have limited experience in the PI, 8 days in Manilla in 2000, but the extra 1500P didn't sound right to me, so I did some quick RTFF here and it seems to me that the going rate is 1700P barfine, and the girl gets 1000P of that, and that guys tip between 0-500P, but it is up to them. I just want to make sure that I got this right before emailing him to let him know what the deal is.
Thanks in advance and normally I would do some more research, but I want to get back to him quickly in case he is getting ripped off.1500 pesos tip in Cebu is crazy. I can understand that much for gogo bars on P. Burgos in Makati but, 1700 BF for the bars on Mango Avenue in Cebu should be 0-500 pesos tip. Also, it is up to you. A couple of the girls my friend had left without asking for a tip.
I just got an email from a friend who is in Cebu right now and he mentioned that barfine in the gogo's is 1700P and then the girls want another 1500P in the morning. I have limited experience in the PI, 8 days in Manilla in 2000, but the extra 1500P didn't sound right to me, so I did some quick RTFF here and it seems to me that the going rate is 1700P barfine, and the girl gets 1000P of that, and that guys tip between 0-500P, but it is up to them. I just want to make sure that I got this right before emailing him to let him know what the deal is.
Thanks in advance and normally I would do some more research, but I want to get back to him quickly in case he is getting ripped off.It's been about 2 years since I was in a Cebu bar but I believe that the barfine is split between the girl and the bar. Others may have more recent information. Gogobarlover is right, a 1, 500 pesos tip is excessive.
Gogobarlover
08-24-10, 10:59
I did a quick trip to Mango Ave. couple nights ago.
Drinks: p80-100Unless they just recently raised the cost of beer or you're drinking something other than Sam Miguel Lite, a SML would cost between 50-65 pesos. 50 pesos for Vikings, BG and Erik The Red. Most of the other gogos are 60-65 pesos
Wicked Roger
08-24-10, 14:56
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.Mb
She wasn't a tad chubby when you shagged her as that has been a scam in the past....there is plenty advice on the Board about this and small inexpensive test kits to prove paternity so you can be sure either way
Good luck keep us posted
WestCoast1
08-24-10, 15:04
Starbucks is out of the way and the second Starbucks is in the mall and in an odd location. However,
Bo's Coffee on second floor.
Seattle's Best Coffee on the first floor.
are the best places to to hangout and look for the chicks. Ayala has a much higher quality clientele. Also watch out for the ladyboys. They look nice and feminine enough to fool you. Many of the girls like to hang out where the richer clientele is at.I'm in love with Cebu malls. Both of those are good locations to sit/watch the talent go by. You are sure to get looks, smiles, winks. Also I had wild luck recently just walking several malls, including Ayala and Robinsons. Quite literally I was hit by several pairs of girls, in addition to individual girls, while walking. The pairs of girls that hit on me (I did not speak to them first) all had the same MO: "Sir? Hi sir. Where are you going, sir? " Almost like the the barkers outside the bars in AC. Without waiting for a response, or just after I said "Hi", they would turn to walk in the direction I was walking, and each girl put her arm in one of my arms, before I could even say if I was interested or not. It happens so fast you could think you are being pick-pocketed; like they had practiced it or discussed it in advance. Also each pair of girls were related: cousins, niece/aunt, sisters. The wild luck went like this:
*Day 1: Two-girl pickup Ayala.
*Morning day 2: two-girl pickup Robinsons.
*Afternoon day 2: two-girl pickup Robinsons (very little naughty, too tired as I had a chatmate the night before and two girls just prior).
*Noon day 4: two-girl attempted pickup, I think its Gaisano mall (has an Imax screen). My previous night's barfine wanted to go there; we had late breakfast and I let her go from there, and 30 minutes later got hit by two girls. I bought them coffee, but did not take them (exhausted).
Every set of girls was walking the opposite direction from me. The afternoon/day 2 girls from Robinson's was the only pair that did not grab my arms before I could speak. They actually waited till I responded with "Hi" before starting to walk in the direction I was walking, and we walked all the way to Bo's before they mentioned coming to my room. All the others spoke first, and turned in my direction and grabbed my arms before I could speak. It seemed to me like a well-rehearsed thing.
WestCoast1
08-24-10, 15:05
It's been about 2 years since I was in a Cebu bar but I believe that the barfine is split between the girl and the bar. Others may have more recent information. Gogobarlover is right, a 1,500 pesos tip is excessive.Both recently, and about 7 months ago, Viking girls told me they get p1000 from the 1700.
Guys, thanks for all the help. I emailed my friend earlier and now he knows the deal. He is a real cheap charlie and it always amuses me when I can point out that he has wasted money, although I do not want him to waste anymore.
Questor 55
08-24-10, 18:24
I'm in love with Cebu malls. Both of those are good locations to sit/watch the talent go by. You are sure to get looks, smiles, winks. Also I had wild luck recently just walking several malls, including Ayala and Robinsons. Quite literally I was hit by several pairs of girls, in addition to individual girls, while walking. The pairs of girls that hit on me (I did not speak to them first) all had the same MO: "Sir? Hi sir. Where are you going, sir? " Almost like the the barkers outside the bars in AC. Without waiting for a response, or just after I said "Hi", they would turn to walk in the direction I was walking, and each girl put her arm in one of my arms, before I could even say if I was interested or not. It happens so fast you could think you are being pick-pocketed; like they had practiced it or discussed it in advance. Also each pair of girls were related: cousins, niece/aunt, sisters. The wild luck went like this:
*Day 1: Two-girl pickup Ayala.
*Morning day 2: two-girl pickup Robinsons.
*Afternoon day 2: two-girl pickup Robinsons (very little naughty, too tired as I had a chatmate the night before and two girls just prior).
*Noon day 4: two-girl attempted pickup, I think its Gaisano mall (has an Imax screen). My previous night's barfine wanted to go there; we had late breakfast and I let her go from there, and 30 minutes later got hit by two girls. I bought them coffee, but did not take them (exhausted).
Every set of girls was walking the opposite direction from me. The afternoon/day 2 girls from Robinson's was the only pair that did not grab my arms before I could speak. They actually waited till I responded with "Hi" before starting to walk in the direction I was walking, and we walked all the way to Bo's before they mentioned coming to my room. All the others spoke first, and turned in my direction and grabbed my arms before I could speak. It seemed to me like a well-rehearsed thing.Solid advice re Ayala Mall.
Robinson's often very 'hit and miss'.
But, hey, when you're on a roll, just ride it Baby !
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.
THE 12TH?? That's anly about TWO WEEKS - and she claims it's YOURS? Hell, unless she has a magical connection to her body, she won't even KNOW she's knocked up until she misses her damned PERIOD. SETUP INDEED!!
Hug Monster
08-24-10, 22:53
I am referring to report #4349 where I asked about the amount of "Contact" allowed in a club when you sit down with a girl for whom you have purchased a LD. I did not get any answers, so I will ask again.
When you are in a club and you buy a LD for a girl and sit down with her, are you allowed a lot of contact, such as hugging, squeezing, rubbing, kissing? How does it play in the eyes of management?
Thank You, HM P.S.. 300-400 replies would be wonderful!
GregLondon
08-25-10, 04:01
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.I agree that given how soon after the sex it does look lie she is setting you up, either not pregnant or pregnant by someone else. However IMHO by having sex without any pregnancy precautions you and others like you are setting yourself up for a genuine pregnancy problem sooner or later. If she had for example waited a couple of weeks more before contacting you how would you know whether or not the pregnancy was due to you or someone else. If you are a responsible guy you would end up with a costly and stressful situation.
I haven't read all the posts responding to you, but my own feeling is to not reply and to not tell her why you think she is bullshting. If you explain the details, she will just refine her technique for the next guy. Let her explain things....
It worked for me. The scammer is now happily married in some European country, probably to a guy who is surprised at how different "his" child looks from him. Kid doesn't look like me either, btw.
But if you let your tool do it's job right inside her, you need to look in the mirror and think about what's right and wrong.
If you are offended by the personal question, pleas ignore === but who is she, how did you meet her, and what is your relationship?
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.
Hug Monster
08-25-10, 13:16
I am referring to report #4349 where I asked about the amount of "Contact" allowed in a club when you sit down with a girl for whom you have purchased a LD. I did not get any answers, so I will ask again.
When you are in a club and you buy a LD for a girl and sit down with her, are you allowed a lot of contact, such as hugging, squeezing, rubbing, kissing? How does it play in the eyes of management?
Thank You, HM P.S. 300-400 replies would be wonderful!
GregLondon
08-25-10, 14:29
Anyone looking for a 3some in Cebu and ok with single mums might want to check these girls.
http://www.tagged.com/cebubabe1989
I think they are 20/21 not 26 as described in tagged. Both single mums. Slim bodies but obviously not as firm as non mums. Realistic price expectations I suspect only limited girl on girl action. They seem quite pleasant girls and showed up on time but i had other guests so didn't try them.
HM, I do not know for sure how much contact you can get in Cebu. In Washington DC I have been thrown out of a few joints for pushing my noose into a dancer on stage. In other areas of the same place I have gotton a hand job.
I would assume that depending on the place you can get a blow job under the table in a back corner. Or you can sit at the stage and can only touch when you are putting money in the g-string.
There is a club called Julliana's I think that at about 2 to 4 am is suppose to fill up with all the local strip club girls out to party. I hear they do lesbo shows for fun on the stage.
I do know in Manila they will stick their hands in your pants and try to drag you out by your dick to your hotel. Never letting go even at the front desk of the hotel. but I am a low life and enjoy giving the night clerk something to talk with me about the next day.
HG, You have asked alot of Questions. Anybody can get laid in PI for 50.00US all day long and night too. The challenge is to get laid for 10.00US for all day and night.
GregLondon
08-25-10, 23:53
I am referring to report #4349 where I asked about the amount of "Contact" allowed in a club when you sit down with a girl for whom you have purchased a LD. I did not get any answers, so I will ask again.
When you are in a club and you buy a LD for a girl and sit down with her, are you allowed a lot of contact, such as hugging, squeezing, rubbing, kissing? How does it play in the eyes of management?
Thank You, HM P.S. 300-400 replies would be wonderful!
Yes, the whole idea is that you have plenty of smooching, hugging kissing etc etc. Exactly how far you can go will depend on the girl, but inn general (apart from with cherry girls who make their mon ey from the LD's a girl will be trying to arose you sufficiently to prompt you to pay the bar fine. As a rule management are supportive of all this or they would go out of business PDQ
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 00:02
HM, I do not know for sure how much contact you can get in Cebu. In Washington DC I have been thrown out of a few joints for pushing my noose into a dancer on stage. In other areas of the same place I have gotton a hand job.
I would assume that depending on the place you can get a blow job under the table in a back corner. Or you can sit at the stage and can only touch when you are putting money in the g-string.
There is a club called Julliana's I think that at about 2 to 4 am is suppose to fill up with all the local strip club girls out to party. I hear they do lesbo shows for fun on the stage.
I do know in Manila they will stick their hands in your pants and try to drag you out by your dick to your hotel. Never letting go even at the front desk of the hotel. but I am a low life and enjoy giving the night clerk something to talk with me about the next day.
HG, You have asked alot of Questions. Anybody can get laid in PI for 50.00US all day long and night too. The challenge is to get laid for 10.00US for all day and night.Thanks Redman69 for the input, HOWEVER, referring to my pseudonym (Hug Monster), I am not always focused on getting "Laid", as you suggest in your last paragraph. I don't want to Barfine a girl until I see how she reacts to my style of "Petting", or cuddling. That is why I just want to know if most clubs will let you buy a LD and sit with the girl away from the stage and give her a leg massage, or kiss her neck, rub her back, etc?
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 00:20
Yes, the whole idea is that you have plenty of smooching, hugging kissing etc etc. Exactly how far you can go will depend on the girl, but inn general (apart from with cherry girls who make their mon ey from the LD's a girl will be trying to arose you sufficiently to prompt you to pay the bar fine. As a rule management are supportive of all this or they would go out of business PDQThanks Mr. London, I hadn't really thought about the cherry girls with my question, but that is a NEW angle for me. However, as I do the math, it seems to me to be just as profitable for the club if I sit there and keep buying LD's every half-hour, than if I pay 500php for a ST barfine. If I want to sit with a girl and keep buying her LD's for a few hours, would they still rather have me BF the girl? And, referring to your statement about the cherry girls. I might just like sitting with a cherry and buy her LD's instead of a barfine, because I LOVE to chat and cuddle. In an average club, what is the ratio of barfine girls to cherry girls? Thank You very much!
WestCoast1
08-26-10, 01:31
I am referring to report #4349 where I asked about the amount of "Contact" allowed in a club when you sit down with a girl for whom you have purchased a LD. I did not get any answers, so I will ask again.
When you are in a club and you buy a LD for a girl and sit down with her, are you allowed a lot of contact, such as hugging, squeezing, rubbing, kissing? How does it play in the eyes of management?
Thank You, HM P.S. 300-400 replies would be wonderful!But, don't sit there buying her LD's and feeling her up. LD's is throwing money away. You can waste $20-30 on LD for one girl feeling her up. For the price, you might as well barfine her and have her for the night in your room and bang her twice. I think for most mongers, you didn't get an answer because it seems to be an odd question from this perspective: why would you buy a girl hi-priced drinks when you can barfine a cutie to be with you in your hotel?
Econo Tech
08-26-10, 04:15
i agree that given how soon after the sex it does look lie she is setting you up, either not pregnant or pregnant by someone else. however imho by having sex without any pregnancy precautions you and others like you are setting yourself up for a genuine pregnancy problem sooner or later. if she had for example waited a couple of weeks more before contacting you how would you know whether or not the pregnancy was due to you or someone else. if you are a responsible guy you would end up with a costly and stressful situation.don't want to sound wierd, but it is 99. 9% unlikely for her to be preg so fast. unless she was already preg when you jammed her.
pretty easy. send her a test kit, get on the web cam, and in front of you ask her to open the 'sealed envelope' and drop the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and show.
even then. things can be faked, as i have seen here. maids who are pregnant get their friends [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) to pass the medical test here.
it's going to be a stressful situation, but all in all, if you don't wrap it up or don't use pills, maybe the guy deserves the mental torture maybe i am a bit sadistic. alternate. get her cytotec and ship it to her and throw her a choice. if the baby is less than 1 month. cytotec is safe. if more than one month. scary but it is not your issue.
GregLondon
08-26-10, 06:30
don't want to sound wierd, but it is 99. 9% unlikely for her to be preg so fast. unless she was already preg when you jammed her.
pretty easy. send her a test kit, get on the web cam, and in front of you ask her to open the 'sealed envelope' and drop the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and show.
even then. things can be faked, as i have seen here. maids who are pregnant get their friends [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) to pass the medical test here.
it's going to be a stressful situation, but all in all, if you don't wrap it up or don't use pills, maybe the guy deserves the mental torture maybe i am a bit sadistic. alternate. get her cytotec and ship it to her and throw her a choice. if the baby is less than 1 month. cytotec is safe. if more than one month. scary but it is not your issue.
i agree, if the timing is as described its very unlikely to be yours (if it exists at all). i think the type of procedure et suggests is too easy to fake and probably would cost more than the cytotec pills for a 1 month prgenancy (about 1000p for 4 pills)
GregLondon
08-26-10, 06:42
Thanks Mr. London, I hadn't really thought about the cherry girls with my question, but that is a NEW angle for me. However, as I do the math, it seems to me to be just as profitable for the club if I sit there and keep buying LD's every half-hour, than if I pay 500php for a ST barfine. If I want to sit with a girl and keep buying her LD's for a few hours, would they still rather have me BF the girl? And, referring to your statement about the cherry girls. I might just like sitting with a cherry and buy her LD's instead of a barfine, because I LOVE to chat and cuddle. In an average club, what is the ratio of barfine girls to cherry girls? Thank You very much!
I agree buying LD's (and indeed using bars at all) in the Phils is a mugs game really just for the short term visitor. LDs are a significant sourse of profit for the bars. They like Cherry girls because they are young and fresh and often guys will end up spending quite abit on LDs before finding out shes a cherry girl and not available for takeout. As a rule bars will want the prettier girls to hang around till relatively late in the evening to contribute to atmosphere and generate LDs then to bar fine relatively late on, unless they do a short term and then come back to the bar to generate more income.
To me it seems a good way to throw away your money. If hugging and groping is your game you can find plenty of girls willing to come around and have that sort of play often for not much more than 100-200P or a trip to Jollybees. For example there is a 7 months preg girl here (running 18) who is often hungry and willing to come round and hang out for 50-100P and a bite to eat. Actually shes rather cute now and kind of honey so anyone interested and in the central Cebu 9around Mango Avenue) are just send me a PM. Needless to say with girls under 18 even if just by a few months its best to be cautious as to what you do with her.
WestCoast1
08-26-10, 07:02
Thanks Mr. London, I hadn't really thought about the cherry girls with my question, but that is a NEW angle for me. However, as I do the math, it seems to me to be just as profitable for the club if I sit there and keep buying LD's every half-hour, than if I pay 500php for a ST barfine. If I want to sit with a girl and keep buying her LD's for a few hours, would they still rather have me BF the girl? And, referring to your statement about the cherry girls. I might just like sitting with a cherry and buy her LD's instead of a barfine, because I LOVE to chat and cuddle. In an average club, what is the ratio of barfine girls to cherry girls? Thank You very much!Probably 80% are available on any given evening. A bar might have no cherry girls in it, or several. A girl might not be cherry, but claim to be. Even among the 80% available, if the girl does not like you (even when you are buying her LD), she might claim any of these to not go with you: Cherry; menstruation, meeting a friend after work, etc. You are better off asking the mamasan which girls are cherry. You can pay 1500 pesos on LD in a few hours chatting her and cuddling her, or you can just pay 1400 and barfine her and have her all evening to go drinking/cuddling with (in other bars, her drinks will be much less expensive - same price as yours), and/or you can take her to your room and chat/cuddle/f*ck all you want.
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 07:41
I agree buying LD's (and indeed using bars at all) in the Phils is a mugs game really just for the short term visitor. LDs are a significant sourse of profit for the bars. They like Cherry girls because they are young and fresh and often guys will end up spending quite abit on LDs before finding out shes a cherry girl and not available for takeout. As a rule bars will want the prettier girls to hang around till relatively late in the evening to contribute to atmosphere and generate LDs then to bar fine relatively late on, unless they do a short term and then come back to the bar to generate more income.
To me it seems a good way to throw away your money. If hugging and groping is your game you can find plenty of girls willing to come around and have that sort of play often for not much more than 100-200P or a trip to Jollybees. For example there is a 7 months preg girl here (running 18) who is often hungry and willing to come round and hang out for 50-100P and a bite to eat. Actually shes rather cute now and kind of honey so anyone interested and in the central Cebu 9around Mango Avenue) are just send me a PM. Needless to say with girls under 18 even if just by a few months its best to be cautious as to what you do with her. Thanks for filling me in on some things that I might enjoy , because if this
"Cyborg" is not in the MODE , it would be fun just to an intimate "Nap" together.
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 12:19
I agree buying LD's (and indeed using bars at all) in the Phils is a mugs game really just for the short term visitor. LDs are a significant sourse of profit for the bars. They like Cherry girls because they are young and fresh and often guys will end up spending quite abit on LDs before finding out shes a cherry girl and not available for takeout. As a rule bars will want the prettier girls to hang around till relatively late in the evening to contribute to atmosphere and generate LDs then to bar fine relatively late on, unless they do a short term and then come back to the bar to generate more income.
To me it seems a good way to throw away your money. If hugging and groping is your game you can find plenty of girls willing to come around and have that sort of play often for not much more than 100-200P or a trip to Jollybees. For example there is a 7 months preg girl here (running 18) who is often hungry and willing to come round and hang out for 50-100P and a bite to eat. Actually shes rather cute now and kind of honey so anyone interested and in the central Cebu 9around Mango Avenue) are just send me a PM. Needless to say with girls under 18 even if just by a few months its best to be cautious as to what you do with her. Thanks for filling me in on some things that I might enjoy, because if this "Cyborg" is not in the MODE, it would be fun just to an intimate "Nap" together.
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 12:22
But, don't sit there buying her LD's and feeling her up. LD's is throwing money away. You can waste $20-30 on LD for one girl feeling her up. For the price, you might as well barfine her and have her for the night in your room and bang her twice. I think for most mongers, you didn't get an answer because it seems to be an odd question from this perspective: why would you buy a girl Hi-priced drinks when you can barfine a cutie to be with you in your hotel? Dear Westcoast 1,
It looks to me like you are attempting to apply mathematical "Logic" to my feelings about a woman. I am not a robot, and therefore I can choose a woman in a way that is not "Cost effective" if I feel that the outcome might be more suitable for me.
Here is my plan Money is NOT a real big concern for me, but being stuck in a hotel room with a barfine who is not my type, would bother me a lot, as I might have paid for 5-10 hours that I don't even want. So here is how I might go about things
I would but a LD for a girl and have about 30 minutes to size her up and see just how she enjoys my approach. If after a few LD's she still seems really excited to be with me, she might be the one that I barfine. However if she seems tired of me, or disagreeable, I can just go on to the next girl and buy her a LD and start over.
Meanwhile, the other girls might be seeing how I like to hug and massage the girl that I am with, and take a fancy to me. THIS WAY, if I don't have the perfect one next to me, my behavior might attract a girl who is more to my liking.
If it was just a matter of taking "Someone" to my room and screwing her for ten hours for a good price, then maybe your way is more "Logical", but that is not how I play. I just want to be as sure as I can, that the girl I bring back to my room is probably the best one that I could have found in that club. If I don't really care that much for any of the girls, I would just go to another club for more variety. Also, it is hard to get bored, when you are "Interviewing" 10-20 young girls, because for me, that is better than being stuck in a room with a barfine overnight, if she turns out to be a mistake.
I agree that given how soon after the sex it does look lie she is setting you up, either not pregnant or pregnant by someone else. However IMHO by having sex without any pregnancy precautions you and others like you are setting yourself up for a genuine pregnancy problem sooner or later. If she had for example waited a couple of weeks more before contacting you how would you know whether or not the pregnancy was due to you or someone else. If you are a responsible guy you would end up with a costly and stressful situation.She makes a typical filipino mistake: jumps at the money too soon. As you have been advised, it is extremely unlikely that she recognize a pregnancy so soon. The test is not reliable so early. She was either pregnant before she met you, or she is not pregnant at all. My advice: disappear from her life.
Stroker Ace88
08-26-10, 16:20
Dear Westcoast 1,
It looks to me like you are attempting to apply mathematical "Logic" to my feelings about a woman. I am not a robot, and therefore I can choose a woman in a way that is not "Cost effective" if I feel that the outcome might be more suitable for me.
Here is my plan Money is NOT a real big concern for me, but being stuck in a hotel room with a barfine who is not my type, would bother me a lot, as I might have paid for 5-10 hours that I don't even want. So here is how I might go about things
I would but a LD for a girl and have about 30 minutes to size her up and see just how she enjoys my approach. If after a few LD's she still seems really excited to be with me, she might be the one that I barfine. However if she seems tired of me, or disagreeable, I can just go on to the next girl and buy her a LD and start over.
Meanwhile, the other girls might be seeing how I like to hug and massage the girl that I am with, and take a fancy to me. THIS WAY, if I don't have the perfect one next to me, my behavior might attract a girl who is more to my liking.
If it was just a matter of taking "Someone" to my room and screwing her for ten hours for a good price, then maybe your way is more "Logical", but that is not how I play. I just want to be as sure as I can, that the girl I bring back to my room is probably the best one that I could have found in that club. If I don't really care that much for any of the girls, I would just go to another club for more variety. Also, it is hard to get bored, when you are "Interviewing" 10-20 young girls, because for me, that is better than being stuck in a room with a barfine overnight, if she turns out to be a mistake.
It never fails. Guys who sit and lurk on the board always have this idea of how there trip, and in HM's case his life in the Philippines will play out even before they have stepped on a plane and onto one of the Philippine Islands. They have every small detail worked out, they ask a thousand questions and they feel like they know it all before they arrive. But HM you are only setting yourself up to fail. The trip you plan in your head will in no way go exactly according to your pre-conceived notions, and you will feel let down and frustrated with your first trip.
You think you know what the girls are like, you think you can understand the culture, you think you have all the information about all the best places, but you think too much. Yes reading and getting good information on the places you will visit is important, but one members experiences do not translate into your own. Again YMMV from that of other members. If you think I am being harsh I am not, only a realist. I have seen this happen to a number of new members in the past few years. They get all juiced up for there time in the Philippines only to return home upset and frustrated how the dream trip they had planned did not go well.
I experienced the same type of feeling on my first visit to the Philippines. I had my trip all thought out and planned. I would meet this girl from this day to this date, then I would go here and then there. It never worked out as I had planed, and such is life in the Philippines. I thought I knew alot before my first trip and it was only a small fraction. I tell you this to try to help you not to give you a hard time.
Get yourself on a plane and go see for yourself. Experience, taste, sample. explore and in your case HUG alot. Hope your time in the Philippines will be a good one and you will find what you are looking for.
Stroker Ace88
08-26-10, 16:30
Does anyone have a contact number and email address for a responsible, serious, reliable and honest real estate agent in Cebu City? Someone that deals with rental properties for foreigners and can be trusted.
I want to check out the possiblity of renting long-term in Cebu City on my next visit and I am curious to see what is available on the market. Does anyone have any info on rental properties in Cebu City or has anyone gone through the process before and can give me some advice.
PM me with the info if you do not want to post on the board. I also might post this question in the "Living in the Philippines" thread, but thought I would ask on the Cebu board first.
Thanks in advance.
Hug Monster
08-26-10, 17:22
It never fails. Guys who sit and lurk on the board always have this idea of how there trip, and in HM's case his life in the Philippines will play out even before they have stepped on a plane and onto one of the Philippine Islands. They have every small detail worked out, they ask a thousand questions and they feel like they know it all before they arrive. But HM you are only setting yourself up to fail. The trip you plan in your head will in no way go exactly according to your pre-conceived notions, and you will feel let down and frustrated with your first trip.
You think you know what the girls are like, you think you can understand the culture, you think you have all the information about all the best places, but you think too much. Yes reading and getting good information on the places you will visit is important, but one members experiences do not translate into your own. Again YMMV from that of other members. If you think I am being harsh I am not, only a realist. I have seen this happen to a number of new members in the past few years. They get all juiced up for there time in the Philippines only to return home upset and frustrated how the dream trip they had planned did not go well.
I experienced the same type of feeling on my first visit to the Philippines. I had my trip all thought out and planned. I would meet this girl from this day to this date, then I would go here and then there. It never worked out as I had planed, and such is life in the Philippines. I thought I knew alot before my first trip and it was only a small fraction. I tell you this to try to help you not to give you a hard time.
Get yourself on a plane and go see for yourself. Experience, taste, sample. explore and in your case HUG alot. Hope your time in the Philippines will be a good one and you will find what you are looking for.To: Stroker Ace,
Thanks for telling me these things and I know that you meant it in a helpful way. Maybe you have been there, and I have not, but please let me tell you this. I have lived very close to The Phils. And I dated several of them, lived with 4 of them and married one of them.
When I stated my "Plans", I am just saying what I will do, NOT saying what the girls MUST do. If the bar girls are not at all REASONABLE, I will just go to the Provinces and find a simple girl who is very kind to me, just like my second wife was. If that only lasts 5-6 years again, then it is Okay. We will both benefit from the relationship and move on to someone else. I am not an OGRE, I have enough money, and I think that I will do okay.
This forum has been kind and helpful to me, thank you.
WestCoast1
08-27-10, 01:34
Dear Westcoast 1,
If it was just a matter of taking "Someone" to my room and screwing her for ten hours for a good price, then maybe your way is more "Logical", but that is not how I play. I just want to be as sure as I can, that the girl I bring back to my room is probably the best one that I could have found in that club. If I don't really care that much for any of the girls, I would just go to another club for more variety. Also, it is hard to get bored, when you are "Interviewing" 10-20 young girls, because for me, that is better than being stuck in a room with a barfine overnight, if she turns out to be a mistake.HM, I see your point. If money is not an object for you, consider also hugging me (I have a Western Union account).
Cheers
There is a nice apartment on Osmena Extension but the agent (Vicky) wants two months deposit plus first month for only one month rental. Very suspicious?
Be leary brother.
Cheapy
PS. GV Tower has good long stay rates now. Promotion ends Aug. 31
Does anyone have a contact number and email address for a responsible, serious, reliable and honest real estate agent in Cebu City? Someone that deals with rental properties for foreigners and can be trusted.
I want to check out the possiblity of renting long-term in Cebu City on my next visit and I am curious to see what is available on the market. Does anyone have any info on rental properties in Cebu City or has anyone gone through the process before and can give me some advice.
PM me with the info if you do not want to post on the board. I also might post this question in the "Living in the Philippines" thread, but thought I would ask on the Cebu board first.
Thanks in advance.
GregLondon
08-27-10, 06:59
Lot's of generally sensible comments.
Stroker Ace is certainly right in that it's possible to overplan things and ultimately one has to come and see what works for you. That said obtaining advice on forums like that can massively improve your experience and help you avoid common pitfalls. But HM is certainly right in that we are all different and want different things. Talking to some of the girls that i know here reveals a huge range of things that turn guys on. From a guy who just takes the girls to the movies tucks a couple of girls into his second bed and gives them a kiss on the forehead before heading to the airport (leaving them 1500P each for zero sexual activities), to guys with extremely unusual (at least for a conservative kinda guy like me) behaviour and tastes.
Personally I've spent a total of about 10 minutes in bars during the last 6 months in the Phils. Whenever I've taken a peak, the girls have seemed as bored as hell, the shows not comparable to those in say Pattaya or Latin America and the prices steep.
I think in HM's position i would be looking to become "intimate friends" with say 4 or 5 girls, given his stated size, health and age issues, probably top end 18-23 year old childless slimsters are not realistic, but there are innumerable cuties maybe on the chubby side or single mums or somewhat older girls who will be happy to hang out, cuddle , get groped etc for a reliable place to sleep/take a nap/play on the internet/get some food/ get 100/200P allowance etc. I think such an experience will be far more "real" than bar girls calculating how much they can earn with LDs vs getting bar fined with other customers etc. Or maybe go to some of the "legit" massage places here (excellent value at about 100-200P per hour), start chatting to some of the massage girls if one takes your fancy and see if she's open to a private massage back at your place after/before hours. They are typically getting just 35P for an hour massage at the massage place (plus any tip you give her) so if you offer say 200P and explain you arent going to fuck her but like to cuddle etc etc, it could work very well for both parties.
If you try for this type of set up, the key is to eliminate jealousy as far as you can, just say you dont want to settle down, just have a few GFs and that its OK if they continue to look for other long term guys whilst with you etc. you will then find girls eager to hang out at your place, especially if u are smart enough to bring a second laptop/netbook). If girl's are having to not take calls/cant chat on the net , most conceal any other dates tehy are going on etc then they probably are going to just want to stay a short time with you as maintaining secrecy is too much hassle.
Fredje1961
08-27-10, 07:52
Gentlemen,
I have a philippina chat mate in Cebu, and she has a fantasy about BBC.
If any brother in Cebu feels like playing naughty games, please get in touch with me and I'll make contact with her.
Thanks in advance,
F
Hug Monster
08-27-10, 10:33
HM, I see your point. If money is not an object for you, consider also hugging me (I have a Western Union account).
CheersHello WestCoast,
Thanks for the kind note.
You seem like a very nice person.
Hug Monster
08-27-10, 10:52
Lot's of generally sensible comments.
Stroker Ace is certainly right in that it's possible to overplan things and ultimately one has to come and see what works for you. That said obtaining advice on forums like that can massively improve your experience and help you avoid common pitfalls. But HM is certainly right in that we are all different and want different things. Talking to some of the girls that i know here reveals a huge range of things that turn guys on. From a guy who just takes the girls to the movies tucks a couple of girls into his second bed and gives them a kiss on the forehead before heading to the airport (leaving them 1500P each for zero sexual activities), to guys with extremely unusual (at least for a conservative kinda guy like me) behaviour and tastes.
Personally I've spent a total of about 10 minutes in bars during the last 6 months in the Phils. Whenever I've taken a peak, the girls have seemed as bored as hell, the shows not comparable to those in say Pattaya or Latin America and the prices steep.
I think in HM's position i would be looking to become "intimate friends" with say 4 or 5 girls, given his stated size, health and age issues, probably top end 18-23 year old childless slimsters are not realistic, but there are innumerable cuties maybe on the chubby side or single mums or somewhat older girls who will be happy to hang out, cuddle , get groped etc for a reliable place to sleep/take a nap/play on the internet/get some food/ get 100/200P allowance etc. I think such an experience will be far more "real" than bar girls calculating how much they can earn with LDs vs getting bar fined with other customers etc. Or maybe go to some of the "legit" massage places here (excellent value at about 100-200P per hour), start chatting to some of the massage girls if one takes your fancy and see if she's open to a private massage back at your place after/before hours. They are typically getting just 35P for an hour massage at the massage place (plus any tip you give her) so if you offer say 200P and explain you arent going to fuck her but like to cuddle etc etc, it could work very well for both parties.
If you try for this type of set up, the key is to eliminate jealousy as far as you can, just say you dont want to settle down, just have a few GFs and that its OK if they continue to look for other long term guys whilst with you etc. you will then find girls eager to hang out at your place, especially if u are smart enough to bring a second laptop/netbook). If girl's are having to not take calls/cant chat on the net , most conceal any other dates tehy are going on etc then they probably are going to just want to stay a short time with you as maintaining secrecy is too much hassle.Greg London,
I really want to Thank You for all of the advice. I hope it is as you say, where I can find Innumerable women, who my not be a 10, but who will enjoy hanging out and cuddling with me. That would be AWESOME! As long as the girl is SOFT and KIND, I will probably be happy with her.
Hug Monster
08-27-10, 11:07
Lot's of generally sensible comments.
Stroker Ace is certainly right in that it's possible to overplan things and ultimately one has to come and see what works for you. That said obtaining advice on forums like that can massively improve your experience and help you avoid common pitfalls. But HM is certainly right in that we are all different and want different things. Talking to some of the girls that i know here reveals a huge range of things that turn guys on. From a guy who just takes the girls to the movies tucks a couple of girls into his second bed and gives them a kiss on the forehead before heading to the airport (leaving them 1500P each for zero sexual activities), to guys with extremely unusual (at least for a conservative kinda guy like me) behaviour and tastes.
Personally I've spent a total of about 10 minutes in bars during the last 6 months in the Phils. Whenever I've taken a peak, the girls have seemed as bored as hell, the shows not comparable to those in say Pattaya or Latin America and the prices steep.
I think in HM's position i would be looking to become "intimate friends" with say 4 or 5 girls, given his stated size, health and age issues, probably top end 18-23 year old childless slimsters are not realistic, but there are innumerable cuties maybe on the chubby side or single mums or somewhat older girls who will be happy to hang out, cuddle , get groped etc for a reliable place to sleep/take a nap/play on the internet/get some food/ get 100/200P allowance etc. I think such an experience will be far more "real" than bar girls calculating how much they can earn with LDs vs getting bar fined with other customers etc. Or maybe go to some of the "legit" massage places here (excellent value at about 100-200P per hour), start chatting to some of the massage girls if one takes your fancy and see if she's open to a private massage back at your place after/before hours. They are typically getting just 35P for an hour massage at the massage place (plus any tip you give her) so if you offer say 200P and explain you arent going to fuck her but like to cuddle etc etc, it could work very well for both parties.
If you try for this type of set up, the key is to eliminate jealousy as far as you can, just say you dont want to settle down, just have a few GFs and that its OK if they continue to look for other long term guys whilst with you etc. you will then find girls eager to hang out at your place, especially if u are smart enough to bring a second laptop/netbook). If girl's are having to not take calls/cant chat on the net , most conceal any other dates tehy are going on etc then they probably are going to just want to stay a short time with you as maintaining secrecy is too much hassle.Hello, Greg,
You mentioned that the 18-23 slimsters are probably out of reach for me, but I am still not really sure what you meant. Did you mean that those girls would not want a relationship with me, or did you mean that those girls would not want to do a barfine with me? Because if I found a really hot "Stunner", I could maybe pay a little extra for a Barfine, just for the 10-hour fantasy-ride, but then do as you said about getting a cute little "Chubby" lady for all of my cuddling. That kind of set-up would make me happy.
Thank you friend!
I had a BB sex with this 23yrs old Cebuano girl at Aug. 12th and again Aug. 18th. She claims that she is pregnant with my child. Today, I got an Yahoo IM from her.
Looks like a setup is on it's way.Either she assumes she is (because she wants to be to entrap you) or she already was (very likely).
Getting a dumb sucker foreigner to pay for the abortion of her pinoy fathered bastard is very common. I've seen the enails to many guy's by the same girl, believe me, they do it all right.
You are now in a moral dilemma. Stick around & wait for a month to get an accurate Bhcg blood test (pos/neg pregnant) & then followup DNA test to establish the father or just drop her. Your call. You chose to bareback her..
AV
Starchild2012
08-27-10, 15:11
Does anyone have a contact number and email address for a responsible, serious, reliable and honest real estate agent in Cebu City? Someone that deals with rental properties for foreigners and can be trusted.
I want to check out the possiblity of renting long-term in Cebu City on my next visit and I am curious to see what is available on the market. Does anyone have any info on rental properties in Cebu City or has anyone gone through the process before and can give me some advice.
PM me with the info if you do not want to post on the board. I also might post this question in the "Living in the Philippines" thread, but thought I would ask on the Cebu board first.
Thanks in advance.
Welcome to the hunt bro....I have rented in both Cebu and Manila for over an year. In Manila you could easily get a decent condo in less than a day fully furnished with one month deposit and one month rent upfront.
The thing that i love most about Philippines is you don't pay anything to the real estate agent, the condo owner pays half of first month rent or full month rent to him.
If he takes you around his vehicle and you don't find anything interesting, you just pay for the gas.
Finding a good apartment in Cebu is difficult than Manila. I have seen some good condo complexes coming up, I'm also going to rent a condo in Cebu by the year end, so my search is on.
The things you must remember is >>> Make sure, the water pressure and supply is adequate in the house, NO chicken sounds in the morning....No weekend KTV near your house....and your landlord does NOT bother you bringing unlimited number of guests to your house. :)
Mostly farangs are suckered into living a local lifestyle, if they don't know the way around. Its up to you as they say...no one tells you small small issues anywhere in the world....In singapore and hong kong its worse how real estate agent trick people. When you are drunk with dead hangover...the chicken sound in the morning will make you crazy :)
Cebu is spread out with mostly homes clustered one adjacent to another...The best option is to live in a high rise condo, which will negate lots of unnecessary problems.
You could also get gated community but the price will be high. The best way is to to go to search online
http://www.adpost.com/ph/
http://www.olx.com.ph/
http://www.cebuads.net/
**** Be Careful from Nigerian scammer's on craigslist, they will promise you heaven on cheap and deliver nothing...if any ads sounds too good and if they ask money upfront..DO NOT GO....They are very active in Cebu and manila classifieds.
The above sites are local and reliable do some research and call them up, they will show you around. I had three four real estate agent show me around places... until i came to know my taxi driver was also a part time real estate agent :)
Check this guy >> Donald Trump of Cebu..insane number of apartments to choose from :)
http://www.ceburealtyshop.com/
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If you don't want to take all the trouble....there is a farang guy from england who will do all the leg work for you and find an apartment for you. Very reliable and recommend guy from living in cebu forum ( do google)
http://www.cebuexpatservices.com/cebu-expat-relocation-services.php
This guy will do everything from keeping your luggage while you hunt for home to finding hotels, apartments, visa extension, bike rental...you name it..he does it.
Good Luck
don't want to sound wierd, but it is 99. 9% unlikely for her to be preg so fast. unless she was already preg when you jammed her.
pretty easy. send her a test kit, get on the web cam, and in front of you ask her to open the 'sealed envelope' and drop the [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) and show.
even then. things can be faked, as i have seen here. maids who are pregnant get their friends [CodeWord109] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord109) to pass the medical test here.
it's going to be a stressful situation, but all in all, if you don't wrap it up or don't use pills, maybe the guy deserves the mental torture maybe i am a bit sadistic. alternate. get her cytotec and ship it to her and throw her a choice. if the baby is less than 1 month. cytotec is safe. if more than one month. scary but it is not your issue.
choices if the girl claims you are the father,
1. deny,deny, deny- helps saying you had vasectomy done and that is why you screwed her without protection.
once it happened to me with a ac waitress. once i said i am sterile even though i am not she admitted it is someone else but asked me for some help if i can. i said i am not into supporting someody's child. she stopped texting me.
2. tell her you do not wish to be a father and will gladly send money for the abortion and ask her to find out the cost. and send money one time and you are free and clear.
3. get the paternity test done but be aware what you are getting into. if the test comes positive she will play on your conscience and the demands for money will never end.
4. assuming that you like children make frequent trips, act as a father, file with the embassy etc doing the right things. very rarely phi mothers will let go of the child so that you can bring to your country and raise the child.
5. break off all contact.
GregLondon
08-28-10, 01:12
Hello, Greg,
You mentioned that the 18-23 slimsters are probably out of reach for me, but I am still not really sure what you meant. Did you mean that those girls would not want a relationship with me, or did you mean that those girls would not want to do a barfine with me? Because if I found a really hot "Stunner", I could maybe pay a little extra for a Barfine, just for the 10-hour fantasy-ride, but then do as you said about getting a cute little "Chubby" lady for all of my cuddling. That kind of set-up would make me happy.
Thank you friend!
Money is the key.
In a bar you can probably take who you like as long as you pay up - that's the whole point of a bar. There may be one or two girls who will be waiting for regular customers or are cherry girls etc, but in any decent bar you should be able to find someone you find very attractive who will go with you, if you indicate that you will err on the side of generosity.
Sometimes bar girls are attracted to older/less fit guys as they figure they will get an easy time in terms of the amount of pounding their pussy will take. This is why some girls would be reluctant to go with a fit 25 year old athlete type.
What I am talking about is non bar GFE. If you take a look at DIA you may conclude that the Phils is awash with beautiful young girls, but actually 95% of the girls there will have "issues" for "picky" guys. eg they are ladyboys/cam girls or scammers of some type, they are chubby (over 50kg) , they are single mums (besides the ones who are honest about this many professing to not have kids are lieing), they will be very plain or have funky teeth, they are high school girls with limited English, they are living in an inconvenient location, they are over 25, they are very short, they are waiting for a husband to give their virginity, they just cant tell the truth etc etc.
The net result is that in a place like Cebu with many foreign guys the "high quality" no issues type girls are being chased by alot of guys and are correspondingly picky in terms of what the guys offer. If you are willing to compromise on some of the above, your odds increase dramatically.
If you are planning to retire here then actually the strategy to find a girl(s) will kind of take care of itself and planning is though fun to do, a bit irrelevant. You will probably find you just smile at a girl in a shop, and take her number and end up with a long term gf.
Coincidentally I met a girl yesterday who would be the type of girl you would probably find useful. She is 18, chubby (about 52kg) quite cute, very big firm natural boobs, nice friendly and fun personality, loves physical contact and to be fucked an unlimited number of times. She told me she has had various medium term western bfs. One Norweigan guy just hung out in the Diplomat hotel had her as his "friend" and entertainer, assistant and got her to bring up to 8 girls a day to his hotel for him to fuck - she does seem to have plenty of friends as she frequents the mango clubs and lives in a boarding house with several cuties.
As a complete aside she also said she had an Ozzie BF back in her province of Bohol where she said she owns a house (paid for by her absentee Indian father) who introduced her to the pleasures of "the monkey position" which was a new one on me. Apparently it involves the girl being fucked whilst hanging from a branch of a suitable tree. That's the story any way.
GoodEnough
08-28-10, 06:22
Hug Monster, I think you're worrying--and needlessly at that--far too much. You can read various opinions about the availability of various types of women, but the fact is you won't really be able to understand it until you get here.
I live in Davao, and I'm in a committed relationship so I don't get out alone very much anymore, which is fine with me. But I do notice guys representing a very broad range of physical appearance and age, with lovely, young, slim, pinays on their arms. In this country, it's more a question of the way you treat the ladies, your "niceness" factor, and, to use an old fashioned word, your gallantry, than it is about your looks.
Of course, money helps. These ladies--be they pros or non-pros--want a better life than they've been living, but almost any foreigner can offer that, whether or not he's considered rich by the standards of his own country. I'm well into my 60's, and even 30 years ago would not likely have been considered a "hunk." Yet I'm still hit on routinely by women in their twenties, and I'm hardly in the minority.
My advice is to relax, don't obsess over pre-arranging much of anything, give yourself a few weeks to learn the country, and enjoy yourself.
Hug Monster
08-28-10, 06:29
When you barfine a girl, let's say for ST, is there a pre-set time when you must return her to the club? And for LT, must you return her in the morn', or is it up to the girl? If you bring her back "Late", is there a penalty?
Hug Monster
08-28-10, 07:00
That's right, Greg London is NOT GoodEnough, and GoodEnough is NOT Greg London. However. Both of them offered some awesome advice! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You (refer to #4403 & #4404)
What GE talked about was very reassuring for me. Because I was very handsome 30 years and 190 lbs. Ago. So my lack of extreme "Hotness" may not be a big problem for me. I have always been very polite, so it sounds like that will also give me some leverage.
And for you Mr. London, the little "Chubby" with the firm and natural boobs sounds like a winner. I want to meet her, and I will be in Cebu from Sept. 30 to Oct. 26. My travel package is already paid for. I have RTFF for three months now and it seems that picking-up a NON. PRO would be easier in Davao than Cebu. Is it true?
Has anyone been to the "Chuvy Chuvy" (SP?) massage on F. Ramos street? It's located next to Volvo KTV. I pass it often on my way to the K1 Spa just a few doors down and the massage girls who work at CC like to hang around outside and they give me the look and the smile so I was wondering what extras are offered and the price. Anyone know or do I have to take one for the team?
On a related topic, has anyone been to the Finland Massage recently and can provide an update. I have never visited but want to find a massage place that offers extras.
Thanks.I have been twice to chuva-chuva last month;
Only hand job availibel, I guess I payed 500 extra.
Better to go to Finland, I was satisfied last time I have been there(June 2010)
Starchild2012
08-28-10, 08:53
When you barfine a girl, let's say for ST, is there a pre-set time when you must return her to the club? And for LT, must you return her in the morn', or is it up to the girl? If you bring her back "Late", is there a penalty?
NO there is no such thing as late fee, ST is based on assumptions and understanding. ST is one shot, you can't fuck her multiple times once you cum. generally...the time would be one hour or couple of hours.. you can fuck her multiple times in a ST if you have the energy..but ST should be done in couple of hours...'cos the girls want to make money by going with other customers during the night.
After one fuck, she will dress and go to her bar, you can TIP her if you like the performance or if the deal was to pay after sex you pay her the money PLUS taxi fare if you like.
You DO NOT have to return ST or LT girls to the bars, they will go on their own.
For LT..... girls don't directly go to the bar, they go to their home in the morning, sleep and go to bar in the evening...you can keep your LT till the next day afternoon, but most girl will go by morning...again depends...NO laws, NO rules...
Its all based on understanding, vibe, assumptions etc etc..depends on how your charm is , how well she like you and how much money you can give.
As GoodEnough has said...Don't over plan it...PH is a very cool place. Even if you make small small mistake...its no big deal...people here understand and will forgive you as long as you respect them.
Good Luck
FritsVanegter
08-28-10, 10:24
Hello,
This will be my first visit to the Philippines and after a lot of reading I think that Cebu would be nice to visit. I did collect some contacts on DIA but I am not sure about them to much. Usually I have serious friends that I meet during day time and if I feel hunger for sex I just go to places like Tulip in BKK. You pay for sex and you will get it. With the DIA contacts the onces you are able to fuck on the first meeting will probably be hookers allready especially if you see all the god fearing in the profiles. Maybe after one meeting you decide to try the next one and you will run into the one from the last day. If you did take her from a bar or she did offer herself for money in a mall then it will already a bit strange to me. Once I had a date with a philippino allnight in BKK, I did bring her to the BTS where the next date was waiting. If they both were working in a bar it would be okay but this time it did make me blush.
I allready did come across some girls asking for help at Dia. I just tell them once I am there they will have a good salary. I guess there are quiet a lot that you can fuck onceyou give them money. To me that is better then fuck for free because you pretend to be her boyfriend. Cebu is not that big so there is a chance that you will meet them again once you are strolling with the next one. In BKK if both are full or partime hookers they will sense it but not make any problem. I don't know about Cebu people. After all they also did step into the catholic trap. In BKK I always tell their religion is not budhism but money. I have the idea that in Philippines I am not sure about that unless you are talking about hardcore hookers.
Because of the trouble in Thailand and the probability the old man will die pretty soon I will fly in to Kuala Lumpur. Still looking for a direct flight to Cebu but there doesn''t seem to be one. Maybe I will go BKK after all for a week or so. Anu adice is well ppreciated.
Greetings,
Frits
Depends on your definition of "hunk" big boy.
Every time I met GE he was surrounded by interesting people of various nationalities, shapes, sizes, personalities and status. Why wouldn't a twentish gal be curious?
My son was a pretty good chick magnet at two years old...he wasn't a "hunk" either.
X
SNIP
even 30 years ago would not likely have been considered a "hunk." Yet I'm still hit on routinely by women in their twenties, and I'm hardly in the minority.
SNIP
WestCoast1
08-28-10, 16:58
NO there is no such thing as late fee, ST is based on assumptions and understanding. ST is one shot, you can't fuck her multiple times once you cum. Generally. The time would be one hour or couple of hours. You can fuck her multiple times in a ST if you have the energy. But ST should be done in couple of hours. 'because the girls want to make money by going with other customers during the night.
For LT. Girls don't directly go to the bar, they go to their home in the morning, sleep and go to bar in the evening. You can keep your LT till the next day afternoon, but most girl will go by morning. Again depends. NO laws, NO rules.
Its all based on understanding, vibe, assumptions etc etc. Depends on how your charm is, how well she like you and how much money you can give.
Good LuckOn technique. If you don't specify before leaving the bar what you want, or if you use generalized terms with the girl like Short Time, or Long Time, you are at the whim of the girl. Starchild is correct, it then becomes based on HER understanding of those terms, and her expectations. It becomes based on HER vibe and assumptions. For example, if you say you want her for Short Time and she agrees, you might be thinking 2-3 hours in your room, and two pops. However, she might be thinking 1 pop. You have little recourse (and only yourself to blame) when she starts dressing to leave your room right after your pop, while your still out of breath, just 20 minutes after getting into the room. In the same vein, if you say Long Time, you might be thinking of an evening pop, and a morning pop. However, she might be thinking SIX am So, you have one pop in the evening, and you will be a bit surprised to awake at sunrise to see her dressing to depart. Again, this is based on HER assumption of your terminology. BTW, according to a mama I dated, this is the preferred method for the bar: no specification in advance, as it leaves little recourse for an unhappy customer. "Did the girl agree to [INSERT WHAT YOU WANTED HERE. EXAMPLE STAY AND HAVE A MORNING POP] you sir before you leave the bar last night? No? Sorry to that, sir. Have good evening now. "
On the other hand, you can better control this by specifying exactly what you want before you leave the bar. This technique is not for everyone. Many men don't like doing this for several reasons: a) its not romantic, or b) they think the girl's won't like the dirty talk (not true, the girls neither like or dislike it; these girls are in the business, this is what they do everyday. And you will sometimes hear the mama instructing the girl in tagalog exactly what naughty thing the man wants). For those who are willing to foray into this territory, telling the girl what you want before you depart, it takes very little time. Typical conversation:
Me: are you wanting to barfine with me this evening?
Girl: yes
Me: I'm looking for [INSERT YOUR OWN. Ie, mouth, pussy, ass, camera, condom my choice, phone turned off in the room, and stay until 10am].
Girl: mmm. Ok
Entire time elapsed on this, the essential part of the deal? 10-15 seconds. I've never had a bargirl (even new) blush at any of this. Sometimes they ask a questions about one of those items, and specify what she can or cannot do. If a girl says no to any of those, she's not coming with me. Most girls are smart enough to point out other girls who are willing to do those things (the mamasan is also another good source of this information). Bars don't like this kind of specification (nor the girls), because it locks the girl and bar into the agreement. If the girl can't follow thru without good cause, it leaves the bar open to things it does not like: possible refund, firing the girl, etc.
While she's dressing to leave with me, I call mama over and chat her, I tell her that she will get a tip if the girl performs well. The next night (and I do). While I'm not a big tipper for girls (p100 for tryke), I often tip the mama the following evening. When the girl comes out dressed, I repeat to the mama what the girl and I agreed to, so there is no way for the girl to claim later we did not have the conversation. Often at this point, I will hear the mama tell the girl to get the job done well (tagalog). This tipping the mama has worked well, as when I walk into the bar another time she is all over finding me a similar hard-working girl.
To the 'no rules. No laws' idea, disagree, but this assumes you have specified with the girl beforehand what you expect. Fail to specify, and 'no rules. No laws' is precisely what you get. The good news is, you usually get what you wanted. Usually. By turning to specification, the % of girls doing what I want has gone up (some). I rarely get a runner or girl who can't do something in the list (ie, camera). I lunch in Kok's most days. I like to sip iced tea and chat gents from various countries. Few weeks ago when I was there I heard 3 gents (in 2 consecutive days) say they had been in town for several weeks, and had yet to have a girl stay past 6am. WTF? I was sitting there with last night's barfine, it was 1:30pm. After we had lunch I gave her the tryke tip and she went home. The guy next to me asked how much extra I had to pay her to stay thru the morning. When I told him she had agreed last night in the bar, in front of the mama, for no extra, he seemed surprised.
You might think the specifying thing goes too far. Yet, most girls are fine with it, perform well, stay the length of time (or into the afternoon). Also some are willing to cheat the next time I'm in town. If they don't get a barfine, they want to come to my room after their shift, head out for food, followed by drinks at Blue Nile, and then back for a LT in the room, knowing I'm only giving her tryke fair home. So I'll say this ratio here: about 80% of the girls I chat in the bar are willing to do the above list of stuff (the other 20% can't/won't do one of them), and will agree to it in front of a waitress or mama. Of those 80%, about 1/3 stay longer than 10am (maybe they are bored, maybe I'm nice to be with). Half of those 1/3 will repeat with me another time, after-hours-if-no-barfine, gratis.
Different strokes, different folks.
WestCoast1
08-28-10, 22:20
Hello,
This will be my first visit to the Philippines and after a lot of reading I think that Cebu would be nice to visit. I did collect some contacts on DIA but I am not sure about them to much. Usually I have serious friends that I meet during day time and if I feel hunger for sex I just go to places like Tulip in BKK. You pay for sex and you will get it. With the DIA contacts the onces you are able to fuck on the first meeting will probably be hookers allready especially if you see all the god fearing in the profiles. Maybe after one meeting you decide to try the next one and you will run into the one from the last day. If you did take her from a bar or she did offer herself for money in a mall then it will already a bit strange to me. Once I had a date with a philippino allnight in BKK, I did bring her to the BTS where the next date was waiting. If they both were working in a bar it would be okay but this time it did make me blush.
Greetings,
FritsCebu is not a small place. 800,000 inhabitants in the city, and in the metro-cebu area 3 million. You will not run into different girls that you had yesterday on the street or in the mall. If they are pro's (money), they don't care if you have a different girl the next day (neither should you -- its your biz, not theirs). You will be fine, get who you want.
Gogobarlover
08-28-10, 22:28
When you are in a club and you buy a LD for a girl and sit down with her, are you allowed a lot of contact, such as hugging, squeezing, rubbing, kissing? How does it play in the eyes of management?
Thank You, HM P.S.. 300-400 replies would be wonderful!Hi there HugMonster, in regards to your question, it depends on the girl. Each girl in the bar has different taste. Some girls may prefer a Korean over Japanese or White American over Indian etc. etc now, a girl may come sit down with you however, she may sit with you but in her mind, she may not be interested in you. You should be able to tell on her body language and how she talks to you. If you’re sitting on the couch and she’s next to you, you will introduce yourself and she’ll introduce herself also. Observe how she sits on the sofa. Filipina girls are shy despite the fact that they are working in a bar. She may keep her distance and you’re not close enough to make a move on her. If she sit close to you and you two are having a good conversation, then get a little physical with her by putting your arm around her waist. See how she responds to it. You’ll see her reaction when you do that. Try to be smooth in the approach. Of course most girls will get turned off if a guy just grabs her boobs especially she is not yet comfortable. I normally put my hand around her waist and pull her closer to me in a gentle manner. She will then rest her head on my shoulder or lean towards me. Then from there, slowly move my hand and caress her outer thigh. The idea is to make her feel safe with you. Basically, most if not all girls will have their guard up when they meet a new guy they don’t know. The management don’t mind if you get physical with the girl as long as you buy her a drink. I mean of course you have to buy her at least one drink. Also, out of respect, buy the mama san a drink. I went into Dimples gogo and got physical with one of the girls that came by me. I didn’t want to bother with drinks and I just wanted to BF her. They don’t like that. I was not able to BF her. She gave me the run around by saying: “It will be so and so pesos to BF”. Then, later on she said: “There is no BF” It was my first time trying to BF without buying a drink because I was running short on time and it was getting late.
I am not always focused on getting "Laid", as you suggest in your last paragraph. I don't want to Barfine a girl until I see how she reacts to my style of "Petting", or cuddling. That is why I just want to know if most clubs will let you buy a LD and sit with the girl away from the stage and give her a leg massage, or kiss her neck, rub her back, etc?I can understand where you’re coming from. Sometimes, the wham bam thank you mam is not all that exciting. You BF someone, they take a shower; you take a shower and then go at it. Then, when the deed is done, you tip her and she goes back to the bar. Some guys don’t mind this as that’s all they care about. But, some guys want a little more than just a quick boom boom. Some of us mongers want the GFE experience first to get us worked up. A club will allow you to have a girl sit next to you after she has done her dancing. Just tell the waitress or mama and point the girl that you want. After she’s done dancing, she’ll come sit by you. But, just remember that each girl has different taste. Don’t feel that just because you willing to buy her so many drinks that she’ll like you. A girl may just judge you based on your race and how you look. But, don’t feel bad though. I’m Filipino/American and I get rejected numerous times because they can tell I am Filipino. Because of this, they see me as someone who doesn’t have money to spend or the possibility that I may be an LE working undercover.
Here is my plan Money is NOT a real big concern for me, but being stuck in a hotel room with a barfine who is not my type, would bother me a lot, as I might have paid for 5-10 hours that I don't even want. So here is how I might go about things I would but a LD for a girl and have about 30 minutes to size her up and see just how she enjoys my approach. If after a few LD's she still seems really excited to be with me, she might be the one that I barfine. However if she seems tired of me, or disagreeable, I can just go on to the next girl and buy her a LD and start over.
Meanwhile, the other girls might be seeing how I like to hug and massage the girl that I am with, and take a fancy to me. THIS WAY, if I don't have the perfect one next to me, my behavior might attract a girl who is more to my liking. If it was just a matter of taking "Someone" to my room and screwing her for ten hours for a good price, then maybe your way is more "Logical", but that is not how I play. I just want to be as sure as I can, that the girl I bring back to my room is probably the best one that I could have found in that club. If I don't really care that much for any of the girls, I would just go to another club for more variety. Also, it is hard to get bored, when you are "Interviewing" 10-20 young girls, because for me, that is better than being stuck in a room with a barfine overnight, if she turns out to be a mistake.Sometimes, there is a night that I don’t always take home a girl. However, I do enjoy myself at the gogo bar talking story with the waitresses, mama sans and bargirls. There are times I just want to rest to. The night doesn’t have to end getting laid. Me and my friend always have fun regardless of what happens. Even if I force it and BF a girl to get laid, I may not really enjoy it or be into it. That’s why for some guys, they can’t just bang any girl they pick at a bar.
It’s a hit and miss though on a BG. She may be humorous and friendly in the bar but, when it comes to doing it in your hotel, she may not be all that good. On the other hand, she may not be so humorous in the bar, but, she may be different in bed. So, you can’t always base it on how friendly or how not friendly she is in the bar. She may just be all sweet and friendly in the bar so that you do BF her. Then, she gets lazy when she’s in your hotel. She knows already that she has her tip.
So, remember now, a girl may be all into you in the bar and enjoying your jokes and conversation. But, after you BF her, she may not follow through and be so good in bed. Sometimes, you just have to take the chance and not base it entirely on how well she responds to you in the bar. She may eventually open up and be comfortable with you when you are alone with her in your room. One of the girls I BF in Angeles City, when she sat next to me in the bar, there wasn’t much if any smooching or physical contact. She was also quiet and not that talkative. I didn’t let that turn me off and I still BF her. I found her attractive that I wanted to BF her. When we got to my hotel room, she opened up and was playful. She loved to kiss and says she likes to make out. We cuddled in bed like a BF/GF couple.
Hug Monster
08-28-10, 23:52
Hello Everyone,
In the last few days, I have, once again, gotten loads of good advice and I want to THANK all of those who offered it.
I was amazed with the efforts of Gogobarlover, GoodEnough, Greg London and WestCoast, who went over-the-top with lengthy reports to offer me, and others, some help.
Again, Thanks to everyone for the contributions to this Forum!
Hug Monster
GoodEnough
08-29-10, 00:36
Thank you Mr. X, for the kind words. It's true that people interest me, and the interesting people I know here do tend to come from all over the place.
We were out again last night at Claude's to pick up some wines I had ordered from him a couple of weeks ago, and I was surprised, since the Kadayawan Festival is over, to see Rizal St. again thronged with people. I know this is not the Davao thread, but it speakers somewhat to Hug Monster's point, in that sitting in Claude's was a guy somewhere in his 50's sharing a table with five really good looking women. Outside, on the street, there were several guys more or less my age strolling around with sweet young things. Trust me, none of these guys would have been mistaken for Brad Pitt (or whoever the most current "world's most beautiful man" may be.)
I don't know Cebu well enough to comment on whether it's easier there or in Davao to meet "normal" women, but as I've said many times, it's extremely easy here.
GE
Hug Monster
08-29-10, 02:00
Greetings Hug Monster,
I've sent you several emails on this subject, but apparently you either don't read them or they are being sent to your SPAM folder.
Pay Attention: I am fucking tired of editing your posts to conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines, specifically to eliminate the HARD RETURNS!
I've edited EVERY FUCKING POST you've ever made to remove the HARD RETURNS. I assumed that at some point you would see the difference resulting from my editing, but apparently you just don't get it, so here it is:
This is your original post:
Thank You ,
This is to GoodEnough. After hearing what you said about Davao ,
I am beginning to regret my planned trip to Cebu. I know that there is no
reason to regret Cebu , but Davao seems to be a lot safer and be a lot
better for meeting Non-Pros , which is what I really want.
I will arrive in Cebu on Sept. 30 , 2010 and I will be there for about
four (4) weeks. I will probably go to some gogo bars , but I would really
like to meet a regular girl in a Mall , or some other place in CC.
There should be no regretting , because I will just come back in Nov.
or Dec. and go to Davao , which will give me time to check-out Bukidnon
and Buda , which sound like nice places to live when I move there.
I should just use Cebu as my gogo bar experience and be grateful for it.
Then when I find my "Main Squeeze" (I am a Hug Monster) , there will
be no remorse for never trying the "Barfine" girls.Here is your post after I edited it to conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines:
Thank You,
This is to GoodEnough. After hearing what you said about Davao, I am beginning to regret my planned trip to Cebu. I know that there is no reason to regret Cebu, but Davao seems to be a lot safer and be a lot better for meeting Non-Pros, which is what I really want.
I will arrive in Cebu on Sept. 30, 2010 and I will be there for about four (4) weeks. I will probably go to some gogo bars, but I would really like to meet a regular girl in a Mall, or some other place in CC.
There should be no regretting, because I will just come back in Nov. Or Dec. And go to Davao, which will give me time to check-out Bukidnon and Buda, which sound like nice places to live when I move there.
I should just use Cebu as my gogo bar experience and be grateful for it. Then when I find my "Main Squeeze" (I am a Hug Monster), there will be no remorse for never trying the "Barfine" girls.Get it?
I hope so, because effective immediately I will delete every post you make that does not conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines.
Thanks,
Jackson
PS: If you don't know what Hard Returns are, then please read this:
HARD RETURNS are where you are using the "Enter" key to add a return (start a new line) at the end of the line before you actually get to the right edge of the screen.
Some software programs (for example, many email programs) will automatically add a hard return after a specific number of characters on each line.
SOFT RETURNS are where you simply allow the text to wrap at the edge of the screen and continue on the neck line down as you type.
GregLondon
08-29-10, 02:18
That's right, Greg London is NOT GoodEnough, and GoodEnough is NOT Greg London. However. Both of them offered some awesome advice! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You (refer to #4403 & #4404)
What GE talked about was very reassuring for me. Because I was very handsome 30 years and 190 lbs. Ago. So my lack of extreme "Hotness" may not be a big problem for me. I have always been very polite, so it sounds like that will also give me some leverage.
And for you Mr. London, the little "Chubby" with the firm and natural boobs sounds like a winner. I want to meet her, and I will be in Cebu from Sept. 30 to Oct. 26. My travel package is already paid for. I have RTFF for three months now and it seems that picking-up a NON. PRO would be easier in Davao than Cebu. Is it true?My perspective is coloured by having tried to find girls for some friends who I think would themselves admit to being very picky. They are wanting girls who are: 18-23, slim (under 45kg) , shapely firm boobs, headturningly pretty, no children, non smoking, perfect teeth, degree educated, speak excellent English, reliable, not looking for big money, can hold interesting conversation, interested to meet a foreigner for a "fun relationship" etc.
Such girls are in my experience, not easy to find here in the Phils - if somebody knows where a bunch of those girls are I'd love to know. Once such girls have learned how to "market" themselves effectively, they are typically being chased by many guys.
Most guys are (quite sensibly) nowhere near as picky as this and once you relax some of these filters the odds of finding suitable girls increases dramatically and of course there are many beautiful and fun girls who wouldn't meet the above selection criteria for one reason or another.
GregLondon
08-29-10, 02:34
These cities have comparable population sizes and will statistically both have their fair share of beautiful women. My guesstimate would be that there are 10x the number of foreigners in Cebu as in Davao, partly because of Mindanao security concerns partly for various other reasons. In the Davao malls you can look around you and see maybe 3 or 4 foreigners. Ayala, SM and Robinson are crawling with portly mature western gents on the prowl for hot Pinay pussy. This means that the above mentioned Cebu malls are magnets for girls who make their living by hanging around the malls smiling at foreign guys and hoping to be picked up. I saw no much thing in Davao as there is not enough "pray" to go around. If you have ever been to the Serengetti when the Wildebeest migration is in the Masai Mara, you will understand where I am coming from.
If you are experienced at seducing Pinays as is GE, you are going to find Davao a happy hunting ground, because of the relative lack competition from foreign guys. But partly because of the relative lack of foreigners, Davao girls are typically MUCH more conservative than their Cebu cousins, so if you are the typical Westerner armed with a Blunderbuss of Pinay seduction technique, you may find Davao much less easy going.
GregLondon
08-29-10, 02:46
Hello,
This will be my first visit to the Philippines and after a lot of reading I think that Cebu would be nice to visit. I did collect some contacts on DIA but I am not sure about them to much. Usually I have serious friends that I meet during day time and if I feel hunger for sex I just go to places like Tulip in BKK. You pay for sex and you will get it. With the DIA contacts the onces you are able to fuck on the first meeting will probably be hookers allready especially if you see all the god fearing in the profiles. Maybe after one meeting you decide to try the next one and you will run into the one from the last day. If you did take her from a bar or she did offer herself for money in a mall then it will already a bit strange to me. Once I had a date with a philippino allnight in BKK, I did bring her to the BTS where the next date was waiting. If they both were working in a bar it would be okay but this time it did make me blush.
I allready did come across some girls asking for help at Dia. I just tell them once I am there they will have a good salary. I guess there are quiet a lot that you can fuck onceyou give them money. To me that is better then fuck for free because you pretend to be her boyfriend. Cebu is not that big so there is a chance that you will meet them again once you are strolling with the next one. In BKK if both are full or partime hookers they will sense it but not make any problem. I don't know about Cebu people. After all they also did step into the catholic trap. In BKK I always tell their religion is not budhism but money. I have the idea that in Philippines I am not sure about that unless you are talking about hardcore hookers.
Because of the trouble in Thailand and the probability the old man will die pretty soon I will fly in to Kuala Lumpur. Still looking for a direct flight to Cebu but there doesn''t seem to be one. Maybe I will go BKK after all for a week or so. Anu adice is well ppreciated.
Greetings,
Frits
I think if you are honest, open and frank about what you are looking for and what you expect to give in return most of these problems will not occur. IMHO most of the jealousy issues you mention are caused by guys having either explicitly or implicitly given girls the impression that they are shopping for a long term partner/wife.
If you make it clear from the outset that you are hear for a fun holiday, anticipate trying several girls and are prepared to pay a fair "tip", you should not have any problems. Infact you may find that your girl either wants to bring a friend/cousin for a threesome or is happy to introduce you to her friends when you want some variety. A reasonable foreigner with "normal" sexual demands who is realistic about paying up will be regarded as a valuable asset by many girls and one that they are happy to share with friends rather than have him trade away by finding a different circle of friends.
Hug Monster
08-29-10, 04:16
Greetings Hug Monster,
I've sent you several emails on this subject, but apparently you either don't read them or they are being sent to your SPAM folder.
Pay Attention: I am fucking tired of editing your posts to conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines, specifically to eliminate the HARD RETURNS!
I've edited EVERY FUCKING POST you've ever made to remove the HARD RETURNS. I assumed that at some point you would see the difference resulting from my editing, but apparently you just don't get it, so here it is:
This is your original post:
Dear Mr. London ,
Please refer to report # 4414. I have always been very happy to here
from you and read your helpful reports. I hope that I have never said
anything that you found insulting . I don't really see the point of #4414
as I was not being "Fussy" about anything. It's just that a girl I read about
sounded really "Hot" and I wanted to meet her.
>>> Please Note: I am NOT picky about a girls age , slimness , perfect face , or education , etc. I just want a KIND AND HONEST girl who is at
least a little bit playful. That is all !!!Here is your post after I edited it to conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines:
Dear Mr. London,
Please refer to report # 4414. I have always been very happy to here from you and read your helpful reports. I hope that I have never said anything that you found insulting. I don't really see the point of #4414 as I was not being "Fussy" about anything. It's just that a girl I read about sounded really "Hot" and I wanted to meet her.
Please Note: I am NOT picky about a girls age, slimness, perfect face, or education, etc. I just want a KIND AND HONEST girl who is at least a little bit playful. That is all!Get it?
I hope so, because effective immediately I will delete every post you make that does not conform to the Forum's Posting Guidelines.
Thanks,
Jackson
PS: If you don't know what Hard Returns are, then please read this:
HARD RETURNS are where you are using the "Enter" key to add a return (start a new line) at the end of the line before you actually get to the right edge of the screen.
Some software programs (for example, many email programs) will automatically add a hard return after a specific number of characters on each line.
SOFT RETURNS are where you simply allow the text to wrap at the edge of the screen and continue on the neck line down as you type.
Gogobarlover
08-29-10, 04:52
I think if you are honest, open and frank about what you are looking for and what you expect to give in return most of these problems will not occur. IMHO most of the jealousy issues you mention are caused by guys having either explicitly or implicitly given girls the impression that they are shopping for a long term partner/wife.
If you make it clear from the outset that you are hear for a fun holiday, anticipate trying several girls and are prepared to pay a fair "tip", you should not have any problems. In fact you may find that your girl either wants to bring a friend/cousin for a threesome or is happy to introduce you to her friends when you want some variety. A reasonable foreigner with "normal" sexual demands who is realistic about paying up will be regarded as a valuable asset by many girls and one that they are happy to share with friends rather than have him trade away by finding a different circle of friends.Excellent advice given by GL. If you are honest about your intentions, a DIA contact that you meet would still hang out with you. We told some of the girls we met that we go to the gogo bars at night and they were not bothered to the point that they refused to see us anymore. Now, I'm not saying you outright tell her right away but, eventually it will lead to a point where you have to spit it out eventually hehe. What you don't want to do is give her high hopes or an indication that you're taking her seriously just to get her in bed. If she finds you're nice, fun-loving and is comfortable to be with, there's a very high chance she will sleep you. It's good to be nice but, don't be too nice to the point that she thinks that you really like her and would consider being serious with her.
On our last trip to Cebu, we brought our friend who went to PI for the very first time. He had a DIA contact that he was messaging before the trip. Now, the problem with him was that he focused too much attention on her that eventually, she fell for him. He was seeing her for 6 nights in a row. He didn't care to go to the gogo bars as what we normally do because that's not his thing. Don't focus too much attention on one girl. This will imply to her that you really do like her. Take a break from her and see other girl contacts. Or, go to the gogo bars and have your fun there. Mix it up. Or, just do your own thing and go to the pool, work out.
What you don't want is the girl being stuck with you throughout the whole trip. Now, if you don't mind that then, it's up to you. By taking a break from her, this implies to her that she thinks that you may be seeing someone else even though your aren't. This helps minimizes her chances of seeing you as a potential BF. Keep her guessing. Then, on the next day, you give her a call and go hang out again. if you spend too much time with her, she gets spoiled by it and expects that you will be calling or texting her the next day and the next day.
What you may consider doing also is hit a gogo bar first and bang as much chicks on your first few nights. Then, later on, meet up with your DIA contacts.
SergeantRay
08-29-10, 06:03
WestCoast1,
Your post is golden. I learned a long time ago to be as explicit as possible. I also like the "no phone" rule.
This summer I saw a runner from several years back. She doesn't remember me, but I remember her.
She was a gorgeous young thing who totally flaked when we got to the room. She asked for taxi fare. I told her I wouldn't even give her a Sky Flake cracker. She reluctantly came around.
She's now working (in Cebu City) across from Gaisano Metro, which is where all the dreg *****s hang out. The wheels of cosmic justice turn slowly, but they do turn.
She was probably a lost cause no matter what, but an honest, direct talk really improves your odds of getting what you want.
WestCoast1
08-29-10, 07:02
WestCoast1,
Your post is golden. I learned a long time ago to be as explicit as possible. I also like the "no phone" rule.Seargant: I make the same sales pitch to AC bargirls as I do freelancers or streetwalkers. "Honey I need a/b/c/d/e/ [SUBSTITUTE YOUR OWN NAUGHTY ITEMS]. Can you do that?" Considering I'm going to chat her for 5 minutes or more there in the bar, its 10 seconds I can spare. Repeating it in front of a mamasan or waitress is another 10 seconds I can spare. This 'get it in writing' approach is not for every guy. I'm guessing that few gents know that they have a legit beef with the bar if she discusses it in advance with the gent (and then does not perform it).
I'll PM you regarding the phone.
Starchild2012
08-29-10, 07:36
On technique. If you don't specify before leaving the bar what you want, or if you use generalized terms with the girl like Short Time, or Long Time, you are at the whim of the girl. Starchild is correct, it then becomes based on HER understanding of those terms, and her expectations. It becomes based on HER vibe and assumptions. For example, if you say you want her for Short Time and she agrees, you might be thinking 2-3 hours in your room, and two pops. However, she might be thinking 1 pop. You have little recourse (and only yourself to blame) when she starts dressing to leave your room right after your pop, while your still out of breath, just 20 minutes after getting into the room. In the same vein, if you say Long Time, you might be thinking of an evening pop, and a morning pop. However, she might be thinking SIX am So, you have one pop in the evening, and you will be a bit surprised to awake at sunrise to see her dressing to depart. Again, this is based on HER assumption of your terminology. BTW, according to a mama I dated, this is the preferred method for the bar: no specification in advance, as it leaves little recourse for an unhappy customer. "Did the girl agree to [INSERT WHAT YOU WANTED HERE. EXAMPLE STAY AND HAVE A MORNING POP] you sir before you leave the bar last night? No? Sorry to that, sir. Have good evening now. "
Agree, WestCoast ...you have put a very detailed explanation..must read for first timers and regulars alike who get bad service now and then.
Hug Monster
08-29-10, 12:22
Mr. Jackson,
You must be correct about your warnings going directly to spam, because I never got your notes about a hard return. Before you told me, I did not even know what a "Hard Return" was. I was in a coma when I was young and I had some brain damage. I am on social security disability now, so I am not exactly really sharp when it comes to "Computer Speak", but I do know enough to say that this is the first time I was aware of my mistake. I will try to not push return from now on, and wait until it goes back by itself when I get to the end of the line. I hope that is what you mean.
Thanks
SergeantRay
08-29-10, 16:46
westcoast1,
the "get it in writing" wasn't meant literally. i was just using a figure of speech to echo your policy of being as clear and explicit as possible before you contract some girl's services.
WestCoast1
08-29-10, 18:35
westcoast1,
the "get it in writing" wasn't meant literally. i was just using a figure of speech to echo your policy of being as clear and explicit as possible before you contract some girl's services.sarg, yes, nothing is actually written. but, the term itself is a fine way to describe what i (quickly) ask of the girl, as bars in ac consider it that way. a story on the board later about this very specific thing, which comes from the owner of one of the bars on santos street.
Went there to check out the famous basketball court. When the taxi arrived at the entrance, we were practically "mobbed" by pimps. Girl quality was not bad
but just a bad scene plus pimps want money before service...Yeah right!
Not a good option for any non-Pinoy monger.IMHO
Cheapy
I've always just walked in. And I don't even like basketball. X
Went there to check out the famous basketball court. When the taxi arrived at the entrance, we were practically "mobbed" by pimps. Girl quality was not bad but just a bad scene plus pimps want money before service...Yeah right!
Not a good option for any non-Pinoy monger.IMHO
Cheapy
Went there to check out the famous basketball court. When the taxi arrived at the entrance, we were practically "mobbed" by pimps. Girl quality was not bad
but just a bad scene plus pimps want money before service...Yeah right!
Not a good option for any non-Pinoy monger.IMHO
Cheapy
The Jonquera scene has been reported extensively in the past with a number of contributions by myself. Payment up front in Jonquera is the norm so don't be put off by that.
Getting swarmed by pimps is again normal for Jonquera, but they are quite harmless. You can find some real jems amongst the rough there
The Jonquera scene has been reported extensively in the past with a number of contributions by myself. Payment up front in Jonquera is the norm so don't be put off by that.
Getting swarmed by pimps is again normal for Jonquera, but they are quite harmless. You can find some real jems amongst the rough thereThat'S what pissed me off in Junquera: You have to pay the pimp in advance:
All 3 times I "did" Junquere, the girl (I agreed "ST" 2. 3 hrs), the girl ran off after one pop and I could do NOTHING about.
This is now why Junquera for me is a "pain in the ass" now.
SergeantRay
08-31-10, 03:39
In my trip to Cebu this summer, the rage in Jonquera is "milkshake," an often lethal mix of shabu and some pain killer.
The barangay police in Kamagayan (Jonquera) are complicit in the drug trade, and the barangay police chief was arrested for selling drugs!
I've been to Jonquera before on foot, but I would carefully consider it now. It's probably worth it to have a pimp bring you several girls to choose from.
GregLondon
08-31-10, 04:11
HM: Sorry for the confusion. I was not implying that YOU are/have been fussy. On the contrary, I think you expectations seem eminently reasonable / modest.
My post was merely to try to redress the impression that the Phils is some sort of El Dorado with an unlimited supply of beautiful girls with insatiable sexual appetites and a mysterious proclivity for rotund, ageing white guys where the usual rules of dating - some sort of equivalence in the desirability of partners does not apply.
Of course nobody believes this completely, but some such thought does colour many people's perception of the Phils. If you read these threads, including my own contributions, you may get the impression that every DIA date results in an orgy with a set of beautiful girls. Of course, what gets posted is just the edited highlights, the sometimes lengthy periods where the ball is being frustratingly kicked around the midfield is cut out.
For the record in my view Phil girls are largely rather average in looks on an international perspective. The thing that the Phils has going for it is that 18-30 year old girls are willing to date 9generally with the expectation of material reward), and if they get a chance marry western guys 40-70 years old.
My first time there was in the late 1980's when I used to stay at the McSherry Pension, it was always a lot of fun, sweeties from the province often the first time they had met a cano.
I dropped by several times last year, I always let my taxi go and then enter the area, get someone to run and get me a beer (big bottles) maybe share it with the boys. Always keeping a good lookout for a cutie. They are always there.
Last trip was a 8/10 from Bukidnon, lost her job and needed rent money and did not want to go back to Mom and Dad in the province.
She stayed all night (Marriott keeps them from running)
The next day she got her pawned phone back and texted. The next night I took her out for dinner (she cleaned up real well) and she stuck around for a couple of days. MMMMMM good MMMMMM life in the PI.
Hug Monster
08-31-10, 05:37
HM: Sorry for the confusion. I was not implying that YOU are/have been fussy. On the contrary, I think you expectations seem eminently reasonable / modest.
My post was merely to try to redress the impression that the Phils is some sort of El Dorado with an unlimited supply of beautiful girls with insatiable sexual appetites and a mysterious proclivity for rotund, ageing white guys where the usual rules of dating. Some sort of equivalence in the desirability of partners does not apply.
Of course nobody believes this completely, but some such thought does colour many people's perception of the Phils. If you read these threads, including my own contributions, you may get the impression that every DIA date results in an orgy with a set of beautiful girls. Of course, what gets posted is just the edited highlights, the sometimes lengthy periods where the ball is being frustratingly kicked around the midfield is cut out.
For the record in my view Phil girls are largely rather average in looks on an international perspective. The thing that the Phils has going for it is that 18-30 year old girls are willing to date 9generally with the expectation of material reward), and if they get a chance marry western guys 40-70 years old.And I would like to add this observation. In The USA, you would almost never get a young, or any other "Cutie" to spend the night in bed with you for between $25 & $40. It would take you a long, long time to find a pretty lady who would go back to you room with you, in The USA, for a meal, a shower, and $5 cab fare. You would have to be "Insane" if you were in The USA and expect to walk into a Mall, at 58 years old, and pick up a 19 year old, and her friend, for dinner and a movie. Greg is correct in that the Phils. Is not an unlimited buffet of "Hotties", but the frustration of finding a pretty girl for a date or marriage, is decreased by at least 800% IMHO. When I was in Saipan, the Bar Girls were much more cooperative, I. E. LD's and the touching that went on, but it was a whole lot harder to find a wife or a girlfriend.
PolyOrchid
08-31-10, 08:59
For the record in my view Phil girls are largely rather average in looks on an international perspective. The thing that the Phils has going for it is that 18-30 year old girls are willing to date 9generally with the expectation of material reward), and if they get a chance marry western guys 40-70 years old.GL, your contributions here are very helpful and insightful for many of us. In addition, your willingness to share is admirable.
If one has a penchant for smallish, small-breasted, not always beautiful, but pretty girls, PI is a great place to go. As I heard someone remark the other day, "the PI is a great place for a young man, and the only place for an old man". I never thought I'd be including myself in the latter camp but alas the years have sneaked up on me and I'm approaching qualification for that team.
Wicked Roger
08-31-10, 16:23
And I would like to add this observation. In The USA, you would almost never get a young, or any other "Cutie" to spend the night in bed with you for between $25 & $40. It would take you a long, long time to find a pretty lady who would go back to you room with you, in The USA, for a meal, a shower, and $5 cab fare. You would have to be "Insane" if you were in The USA and expect to walk into a Mall, at 58 years old, and pick up a 19 year old, and her friend, for dinner and a movie. Greg is correct in that the Phils. Is not an unlimited buffet of "Hotties", but the frustration of finding a pretty girl for a date or marriage, is decreased by at least 800% IMHO.
HM/GL
I would endorse that and have said this a few times....as GL said using DIA takes time and patience and eventually you find a gem but like many things gems are hard to find and if you dont put in the effort you get the rewards. As I say to people, you get out what you put in yourself
And over the years I have had some failures like all of us.. I always had back up plan B, C D....in case the girl is a no show, is a chubby, comes with the whole family.....or worse. So once you put in the effort you understand the 'game' and the 'rules'.. When I first started lookng at the sites years ago I was very 'innocent' (not word used to describe me by many people I know :)) about LBs and C2C (ie at first I did not do that but I soon learnt to always do that)
I get so many PMs for guys asking for details and specifics and photos...and they have less then 50 posts and I generally dont assist unless they have been referred as many I get clearly think it is easy, plenty hotties but why bother working hard as WR, GL, FF, RK etc have some contacts
IMHO there are plenty very sexy and attractive girls and yes we are lucky they like us older guys but still you have work at it as only a few come and chat you up in malls etc...most dont do that, trust me
And in the USA or Europe, going out with a 18/19 year old and a 30+ year age gap would be considered perverted by many (lucky bugger by others) but generally that 'behaviour' is frowned upon by society
Have fun HM
PS this is my 2000th post..amazing how time flies when you have fun, my first was 4-5 years ago and I have stopped being a 'porno poster' as one member once described me :) to being slighty more mature in my FRs :D..again an odd choice of words to describe me!
For the record in my view Phil girls are largely rather average in looks on an international perspective. The thing that the Phils has going for it is that 18-30 year old girls are willing to date (generally with the expectation of material reward), and if they get a chance marry western guys 40-70 years old.If the photo gallery was anything to go by, casual observers would tend to think that, judging by the quality of the girls pictured.
However these tend to be happy snaps by short term visitors. Those of us with a little time on their hands soon find stunners for pennies.
It's not just the (massive) availablity of (cheap) pussy here, the fact that they can converse in rudimentary english helps also for relationships longer than 60 minutes.
AV
FreebieFan
09-01-10, 09:26
HM/GL
I would endorse that and have said this a few times....as GL said using DIA takes time and patience and eventually you find a gem but like many things gems are hard to find and if you dont put in the effort you get the rewards. As I say to people, you get out what you put in yourself
And over the years I have had some failures like all of us.. I always had back up plan B, C D....in case the girl is a no show, is a chubby, comes with the whole family.....or worse. So once you put in the effort you understand the 'game' and the 'rules'.. When I first started lookng at the sites years ago I was very 'innocent' (not word used to describe me by many people I know :)) about LBs and C2C (ie at first I did not do that but I soon learnt to always do that)
I get so many PMs for guys asking for details and specifics and photos...and they have less then 50 posts and I generally dont assist unless they have been referred as many I get clearly think it is easy, plenty hotties but why bother working hard as WR, GL, FF, RK etc have some contacts
IMHO there are plenty very sexy and attractive girls and yes we are lucky they like us older guys but still you have work at it as only a few come and chat you up in malls etc...most dont do that, trust me
And in the USA or Europe, going out with a 18/19 year old and a 30+ year age gap would be considered perverted by many (lucky bugger by others) but generally that 'behaviour' is frowned upon by society
Have fun HM
PS this is my 2000th post..amazing how time flies when you have fun, my first was 4-5 years ago and I have stopped being a 'porno poster' as one member once described me :) to being slighty more mature in my FRs :D..again an odd choice of words to describe me!Congrats on Post Number 2000 Sir! We mere mortals have some way to go to catch up to you. Not only in number of posts but in terms of quality of debauchery!
Hug Monster
09-01-10, 09:35
If the photo gallery was anything to go by, casual observers would tend to think that, judging by the quality of the girls pictured.
However these tend to be happy snaps by short term visitors. Those of us with a little time on their hands soon find stunners for pennies.
It's not just the (massive) availablity of (cheap) pussy here, the fact that they can converse in rudimentary english helps also for relationships longer than 60 minutes.
AVMr. Amavida,
You sound a little bit disappointed by the "Average" photo that is posted here on this forum. I have seen a lot of photos of girls here, who are not exactly beauty Queens. Many look Okay and a few are very pretty. I am with you as far as our photos here not having a whole lot in the "Stunner" catagory. I am mildly disabled and I was not wealthy when I married a filipina in Saipan. She was a 3-time beauty-contest winner and IMHO about 95% stunner. She is very inteligent and fluent in four(4) languages. We are divorced now, since 1998. ******* What you said about men in the Phils. Who have some time on their hands, sounds like very good news. My main question is this: If I have a decent income ($1100+ per month) and $115, 000 in the bank, and my looks are abouve average for my age (50), but I am overweight..... What do you, and anyone else think of my chances of finding a cute and kind wife in the Phils. Also... What area in the Phils. Do you think I should go to in order to have a good chance of finding her. I should stress that average. Cute. A little chubby is fine, as long as she is a really nice girl. Amavida... When you said "Find Stunners for pennies", were you talking about a barfine, or just a nice looking girl who would expect support from her husband/boyfriend?
Thanks to Everyone!
....
PS this is my 2000th post..amazing how time flies when you have fun, my first was 4-5 years ago and I have stopped being a 'porno poster' as one member once described me :) to being slighty more mature in my FRs :D..again an odd choice of words to describe me!
I just choked on my oatmeal and mashed banana when I read those rather weird lines "more mature in my FRs....".
ROFLMFAO
Bloody hell WR - don't go all coy and shy on us just when you are in your prime.
How about a few more "immature" posts about the "perfect peach" ass on Miss A from Cebu - I can still see it in front of me going down those stairs after we had dinner in Makati. No wonder the security guy asked me "are you alright Sir?" I hadn't just seen a ghost - I had just followed a perfect (and i mean unbelievable) ass down a long flight of stairs.
WestCoast1
09-01-10, 14:52
For the record in my view Phil girls are largely rather average in looks on an international perspective.I was browsing the Costa Rica photo gallery a few weeks ago. Yuck, barkers. I browsed back 6 pages. A number of men wrote in there as to how much older and ugly the girls posted are. I also posted, asking why there are no pics there of pretty girls (not... one). A gent wrote there that there was no reason to go to asia, since there is a supply of hot girls in CR. Judging the girls posted in SE Asial photo galleries here, and the central american girls in ISG, there is little comparison: there is a plethora of hotties posted in the filipine photogallery, and none posted in CR. From the prices of Short Time in CR (that's pretty much the only thing posted), I told the gents there that I'm still getting LT in asia for $30-$50, with my (extensive) naughty list (including 10am, 9am in Jak). How much are they paying there? They won't answer.
RP and Indonesia are still the places I go to where I can walk into a bar, not bother buying a drink (LA Cafe, the waitresses are/were slow, Top Gun in Jakarta), see dozens of cuties, take 2 minutes to set my sights on a hottie, spend as little as 2 minutes chatting her and running thru my list, and be in the taxi outbound to the hotel in as little as 5 minutes from walking in, all for $30-$60 for 12+ hours of her time, and have 25-30% of them stay longer. Other gents I speak to have similar luck (although some much worse). I don't see anyone posting like that in the CR thread. Nobody posts about walking into a mall and walking out with a 19-yr-old cuite who comes to my room for $10, then txts later to recommend her sister, friend, couzin, or niece for the evening's enjoyment.
Don't know how good we have it? Yes, we can find better looking ladies in Columbia. But as AV says, more gfe? More willing?
Wicked Roger
09-01-10, 16:12
I just choked on my oatmeal and mashed banana when I read those rather weird lines "more mature in my FRs....".
ROFLMFAO
Bloody hell WR - don't go all coy and shy on us just when you are in your prime.
How about a few more "immature" posts about the "perfect peach" ass on Miss A from Cebu - I can still see it in front of me going down those stairs after we had dinner in Makati. No wonder the security guy asked me "are you alright Sir?" I hadn't just seen a ghost - I had just followed a perfect (and i mean unbelievable) ass down a long flight of stairs.
Me coy...;)
Well I can be if the girl is cute and that will work :D
As for the peach ass....yes that will be well looked after soon and I am sure you will do your best to come to Cebu and enjoy it LOL. Trust me she has other equally gorgeous clothes to show her peach off in and she now refers to it as "peach" after I told her you thought it was and that you had a stiffy in the restaurant!!! She found that very amusing and was real cool and said next she needs to see it...:D
Hopefully see you in Cebu and if not Manila overnite...and yes her ass is quite lovely RK LOL
Meaning no offense to RK or WR, its just my personal feeling, but I don't like the habit Philippina's have of walking in front of the man. It makes me feel like I am on display. I will tell my girl "walk behind me or beside me, unless I tell you to go ahead, as in shopping"
Maybe its a Dominant thing. I am in charge and leading you girl, you aren't leading me. And if they forget and start to walk ahead again, a sharp downward jerk on the leash serves to remind them!
In Saudi the women always ride in the back seat of the car. And you can see them leaning over the seat and pointing, telling their husbands where to go. haha.
Stroker Ace88
09-01-10, 17:52
I have been twice to chuva-chuva last month;
Only hand job availibel, I guess I payed 500 extra.
Better to go to Finland, I was satisfied last time I have been there(June 2010)
Infas,
Thanks for the report. Can you choose the massage girl at Chuva-Chuva from a lineup or they give you whoever is next on the list?
If you can remember, how much did you pay for FS at Finland?
Wicked Roger
09-01-10, 19:29
Meaning no offense to RK or WR, its just my personal feeling, but I don't like the habit Philippina's have of walking in front of the man. It makes me feel like I am on display. I will tell my girl "walk behind me or beside me, unless I tell you to go ahead, as in shopping"
Maybe its a Dominant thing. I am in charge and leading you girl, you aren't leading me. And if they forget and start to walk ahead again, a sharp downward jerk on the leash serves to remind them!
In Saudi the women always ride in the back seat of the car. And you can see them leaning over the seat and pointing, telling their husbands where to go. haha.
Jambo
You have to see Miss A's ass/peach to appreciate the moment...it is truly very nice :D I would always walk behind her in her little black dress especially if she not wearing panties or has the smallest of g strings. On the plane to Davao a while back she strolled down the aisle to the toilet and guys were staring...and she just had skin tight jean and very high wedges..RK that one is just for your wet dream(s) tonight :D
As for Saudi well they do tell the drivers where to go for sure, when you see that, most sane drivers in Saudi (and there are a few in Saudi but not that many especially just before Iftar) steer well clear as the poor driver will do as madam or else....thus creating total confusion and like accidents in his wake
West Coast.
I have been to CR 25 times. From Washington DC it is 4 to 7 hours. 4 direct most flights canceled now. 7 hours with transfer.
There are Massage places 1 hour for 12 to 20.00 US. These are for the locals. There are hight end places 50.00 for a hour with many hot chica's. Hotel little Havanna has girls and they are 25.00 per hour when you rent a room there.
Then there is the Casino or Bar scene. You can get short time for 60 to 100.00 us And all night for 150.00 to 300.00. You are a sucker if you pay the 300.00. But there are lots of people who fly over from Maiami. 2 hours 20 minutes and they spend thier money for a few days and head back. There are also lots of insurance, doctors, dentist, salesmen conventions held there so that you go to a seminiar and then party. These events bring in Columbiana's Panamain's, Dominicains, Nica's and I have been with all these and El salvadorian's and Houndorian. And had a Peruvian Nurse who wanted my baby for free.
The 24hour plane ride is a killer. 4 to 6 days with jet lag. But I agree that PI and the whole of southeast asia is better.
I took my daughters twice with me to CR. One time 208.00 round trip and another time 238.00 round trip. Both with one lay over about 6 to 7 hours total time. At that plane cost. I can afford to take them to the beach, Let them go horse back riding, Canopy tours, ATV riding. And on one trip paid a girl to stay with them the whole week. Cost 500.00. She spoke perfect English worked for the UN and took them evrywhere. While Daddy stay out late at night winning money at the tables. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
Hopefully you can see why for alot of East Coast boys CR has its pluses. There are down sides also. 26.00 departure tax, Only a 90 day visa. You can only bring back 60 days of Meds. Prostitution is legal, No laws broke. In the capital 20% of the people speak ok english. And there are just as many non-pro looking for husbands as in PI.
But, I am coming to PI in NOV> for a reason. That you mentioned.
CR also has a good board named CRT that has good info like ISG.
WestCoast1
09-02-10, 01:40
West Coast.
I have been to CR 25 times. From Washington DC it is 4 to 7 hours. 4 direct most flights canceled now. 7 hours with transfer.
There are Massage places 1 hour for 12 to 20.00 US. These are for the locals. There are hight end places 50.00 for a hour with many hot chica's. Hotel little Havanna has girls and they are 25.00 per hour when you rent a room there.
Then there is the Casino or Bar scene. You can get short time for 60 to 100.00 us And all night for 150.00 to 300.00. You are a sucker if you pay the 300.00. But there are lots of people who fly over from Maiami. 2 hours 20 minutes and they spend thier money for a few days and head back. There are also lots of insurance, doctors, dentist, salesmen conventions held there so that you go to a seminiar and then party. These events bring in Columbiana's Panamain's, Dominicains, Nica's and I have been with all these and El salvadorian's and Houndorian. And had a Peruvian Nurse who wanted my baby for free.
The 24hour plane ride is a killer. 4 to 6 days with jet lag. But I agree that PI and the whole of southeast asia is better.
I took my daughters twice with me to CR. One time 208.00 round trip and another time 238.00 round trip. Both with one lay over about 6 to 7 hours total time. At that plane cost. I can afford to take them to the beach, Let them go horse back riding, Canopy tours, ATV riding. And on one trip paid a girl to stay with them the whole week. Cost 500.00. She spoke perfect English worked for the UN and took them evrywhere. While Daddy stay out late at night winning money at the tables. That is my story and I am sticking to it.
Hopefully you can see why for alot of East Coast boys CR has its pluses. There are down sides also. 26.00 departure tax, Only a 90 day visa. You can only bring back 60 days of Meds. Prostitution is legal, No laws broke. In the capital 20% of the people speak ok english. And there are just as many non-pro looking for husbands as in PI.
But, I am coming to PI in NOV> for a reason. That you mentioned.
CR also has a good board named CRT that has good info like ISG.Red, great head's-up on CR. I was looking at flights to CR from LAX. Looks 6 hours non-stop, or about 10 hours with a stop. Much shorter than crossing the pond, and I'm considering it for xmas.
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
Meaning no offense to RK or WR, its just my personal feeling, but I don't like the habit Philippina's have of walking in front of the man. It makes me feel like I am on display. I will tell my girl "walk behind me or beside me, unless I tell you to go ahead, as in shopping"
Maybe its a Dominant thing. I am in charge and leading you girl, you aren't leading me. And if they forget and start to walk ahead again, a sharp downward jerk on the leash serves to remind them!
..........
Ahh Jambo - it's different strokes for different folks.
I walked behind because WR and his "peach-assed" friend were in front, and that's when I got my first view of her assets.
The Dominance v Submission thing doesn't figure in my thinking at all, and I don't need it either to get me going. If anything, I am more "turned-on" by a filipina with a mind of her own who is a bit more feisty and tells me what she likes as much as I tell her.
It's all good. Variety is always better than standard or convention. Easy for us to co-exist that way, as we don't tread on one another's toes.
West let me add there is a huge expat community in CR. You can own land there. Get in the national health plan. There are two great hospitals in San Jose. Biblica and Cima. Cima is hooked up with a Texas school. It has been a retirement community for 30 years. One of the first places with the Visa. They have about 25% of the population as ileagal nico's who work the farms
But it is a great place. Some gringos actually move down there for good.
The difference is it is not a dirt poor country with 1/2 a million poor girls turning 18 every year want to see the world. There is only about 3.5 million in the whold country. And they do have a decent standard of living. In the mountians you do not need either heat or air. So utilitys are nothing. The showers have instant hot heads. And 10 lights in the whold house. Water and sewer cost more the electricity for the locals. Row house is about 15 to 20K. But there are suburbs full of expats and thier wives who buy 200 to 400k americian houses. Since so many people go there as tourist. Thier number 1 bussiness. Intell is there also and Slyvania. You can get nice rooms for 40 dollars a night. Cheap rooms that are safe for 12.00 not me and nice hotels for 120.00 a night. The nice places charge a chica fee. range 10 to 50.00 at the holiday inn.
So you can go and stay at a nice comfortable expat hotel 40.00 a night plus tax, Go to the 50.00 massage each day and wonder and site see. And hit the casino's Del Rey is the Jewel. Do take out for 3 hours, one hole non covered BJ. And have a good time. Or you can fly into like the Hotel M that caterers to guys like us. 180.00 a night no chica fee. Books of pictures at the bar of excorts who are bomb's for 300.00 a night. And live like doctors and lawyers do.
Me being a constrution worker I do the 40.00 hotel with the rice and beans with a bioled egg as the breakfest.
If you get affronted (no pun) by the fact that your pinay is walking in front of you, just keep in mind that the Philippines is a classical matriarchal society.
Women rule.
G
keep in mind that the Philippines is a classical matriarchal society.
Oh you are so right! Imagine if they had unemployment insurance and welfare. "Welfare Fathers" hah! Seriously screwed up.
Gogobarlover
09-02-10, 20:51
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
Stick to the gogo bars on Mango Avenue. They will let you bring in a girl into the bars. However, one of them actually charged us a fee for bringing her in. I think it was Hot Rods. We brought her into 3 bars, Hot Rods, Sister and Club Temptations. If you want an upscale one, check out Club Arena. This is located near the Pier not to far from SM Mall. It's very nice but, there is a 200 pesos entrance fee as well as a 200 pesos fee to exit. They will add it onto your tab later when you buy your drinks. The BF is very expensive though at 6,000 pesos. It's a huge bar. It has 2 levels and there is rooms on both floors that you can sing karaoke and bring the girls in the rooms. I would say that Club Arena is the nicest most upscale bar in Cebu.
I took my GF to both Viking and Red Lips two nights ago and no drama. We played pool at Vikings. Red Lips is my pick for upmarket but reasonalbly priced drinks and good floorshow.
Cheapy
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
I'll suggest Viking a very large bar. They have some of the sexiest dancers who can actually dance.
The new Red Mango might be another choice since it is kind of small and intimate. Last time I was there the "Erik" group was putting some of their best talent there and the ladies drinks were only 100 pesos. I wouldn't be surprised if that discount is no longer in effect.
These would be my two choices in the Mango area because I assume your gal will be more interested in the show rather than the price of barfines.
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home. But that does not seem to be her interest. (well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend? Clearly one that's more safe. More upmarket. If I can possibly use that term.
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
Hug Monster
09-03-10, 09:12
Mr. Amavida,
You sound a little bit disappointed by the "Average" photo that is posted here on this forum. I have seen a lot of photos of girls here, who are not exactly beauty Queens. Many look Okay and a few are very pretty. I am with you as far as our photos here not having a whole lot in the "Stunner" catagory. I am mildly disabled and I was not wealthy when I married a filipina in Saipan. She was a 3-time beauty-contest winner and IMHO about 95% stunner. She is very inteligent and fluent in four(4) languages. We are divorced now, since 1998. ******* What you said about men in the Phils. Who have some time on their hands, sounds like very good news. My main question is this: If I have a decent income ($1100+ per month) and $115, 000 in the bank, and my looks are abouve average for my age (50), but I am overweight..... What do you, and anyone else think of my chances of finding a cute and kind wife in the Phils. Also... What area in the Phils. Do you think I should go to in order to have a good chance of finding her. I should stress that average. Cute. A little chubby is fine, as long as she is a really nice girl. Amavida... When you said "Find Stunners for pennies", were you talking about a barfine, or just a nice looking girl who would expect support from her husband/boyfriend?
Thanks to Everyone!Okay... I don't really need a Witness, but I would be very happy to have some answers, or info on the topic above.
Thanks!
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
I have taken girls into both Volvo and Thunderdome, down the street from Midtown Hotel/Robinson's (F. Ramos?). Mamasans were happy to see the girls. Also, Love City on Mango Ave., which has some of the best, if not the best looking dancers in Cebu City. Can bring girls in for free, and as I said, mamasan loves it cause they figure maybe the girl will want to work there.
Hello radoboy,
The most upmarket bar that I have been to in Cebu is Juliana's, in Banilad.
It is off the main road, and the taxi driver will bneed tpo know where to go.
I was there several times just over a year ago. The women dance singly, often naked, and they are stunners.
In fact, basically all the girls there are stunners.
It is more expensive than the normal run of the mill bars, but the quality is excellent.
By the way, as you go there off the main road, you will pass the well known casa. it is behind a big green? gate. has a range of women. But it is a bit stark. There is no place where you sit casually, have a beer, take your time and view the proceedings. You sit in a room with seats around the walls. All of the available girls are herded in, and stand or sit while you make your choice. pay the fee, then back into your taxi and on your way.
I think your woman would like Julianas.
G
Mr Giggity Goo
09-03-10, 14:17
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
RadoboyAlthough I would not call it upscale. I enjoyed going to Vikings with a girl one night.They have a few pool tables if your into that. And many couches you and your girl can sit at peacefully and watch the action. But as far as your comment as safe. I personally haven't been to a girly bar in Cebu where i didn't feel safe. Good luck in the 3 some :)
The most upmarket bar that I have been to in Cebu is Juliana's, in Banilad.
Hey G,
Don't you mean "JAGUAR" instead of "JULIANA" ??
Juliana is the disco in Mango Square!
Yes I would definitely agree with you that Jag is the place to go with a date!
Very relaxed atmosphere, stunners everywhere, no drink pressure and cool management.
Stroker Ace88
09-03-10, 15:19
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
Radoboy
Radoboy,
I have taken a regular girl into these bars: Silver Dollar, Stripes, Blue Angel, Pussycats, Papilion, Vikings, and yes even into Hot Rods recently and never been asked for an entry fee or had any issues or problems. I did see the sign on Hot Rods that requires 100P entry fee to any outside female, but when I went inside at 1am not too many customers and the sleepy guard never bothered me.
My advice to you is to stick to the Mango avenue bars. If you get asked for an entry fee for her tell them to forget it and leave, then go to the next which is right next door. Find one that you and her both like and sit, order some drinks and relax and watch the show. IMHO, stay away from very expensive KTV's and the higher end upscale places like Areana and Jaguar. Most will charge an entry fee and some an exit fee, and you will have to buy drinks regularly to sit and watch the girls on the stage. Why bring her to a place where you are playing 500P just to sit down when you are not even sure if the girl you bring will want to stay?
Talk to the girl in advance, make she she is ok. Explain to her the situation so she is prepared a little before going there. Tell her there will be a stage with gilrs on it, do you want to sit close or far, do you want to see the girls or you just want to see what goes on in those places? Ask her questions and get her feedback. This will help you to understand what she wants. This way once you enter the club you will be prepared.
Also when you talk to her before you go to the gogo bar, you can get an idea if she really is bi-curious or she is just curious to see what goes on inside the club. I have taken many girls to the gogo bars and only one was bi-sexual, and she refused to barfine any girls to bring back to the room. All are very very curious as to the exact activities inside those clubs. Alot have sex fantasies about working there and being the sexual object of desire for foreign guys. You must also define your role with the girl you bring. Is she your girlfriend or just some girl you met? If she sees you as hers, then better not get too excited over the dancers. Almost all the girls I brought to the gogo bars asked me which girl on stage I liked. Do not answer unless you want a jealous tampo girl on your hands. Always say they are ok but I like you better. Downplay any questions of comments she will make about the girls. Also know that things will be very different when you enter the bar with another woman. The dancers will stay far away from you and will never come approach you unless they want to take your drink or food order or you call one over. The mamasan might come over to see how you are and to chat up the girl to see if she works at another bar or is looking for work. Also there are alot of Korean groups that visit the gogo bars on Mango and sometimes they will have Korean girls in the group. So chances are she will not be the only non-dancer female in the bar.
Your girl will also be very very nervous before you entre the club. She will almost always shake a little. For young catholic girls who are brought up on a strict religious mentality, entering a gogo bar can be a very big issue to her. She will be both excited and fearful. She will also be very very afraid to be seen going in or out of that place by someone she knows for fear of being labeled a prositute. Sit close to her and after 10 minutes she will calm down enough so she can enjoy the experience. I would stay no longer than one hour in the bar on her first visit, and do not get her drunk, just one or two drinks will be more than enough. She will express her thoughts to you after you leave the bar and she will be happy you brought her there. If she liked it you can take her back another night to visit more bars and when she knows what to expect you can try the more expensive KTV's.
Thanks all for your advice – but a special thanks to Stroker Ace: you went above and beyond and answered the questions I never actually asked. With the advice I needed to hear.
Wonderful depth and insight. Thank you sir!
Starchild2012
09-03-10, 16:50
Hey G,
Don't you mean "JAGUAR" instead of "JULIANA" ??
Juliana is the disco in Mango Square!
Yes I would definitely agree with you that Jag is the place to go with a date!
Very relaxed atmosphere, stunners everywhere, no drink pressure and cool management.
Yep, Jaguar is a great place to be. I have visited Manila Burgos Bars, Asia Entertainment complex, malate bars, la cafe, havana cafe, EDSA etc and all bars in Cebu. I'm yet to find the same quality of women from jaguar anywhere. As i have reported before. There is a way you can avoid bar fine easily.
Go late around 12 to 12.30 AM...when things get busy..order a beer or two, sit for an hour, call the girl you like...pass on your number or ask her number...Jaguar closes at 2 to 2.30 AM...pick her up from outside..for a cost of 500 pesos you can get a hot stunning model...pay her in the morning on agreed price.
else,
Go late, call the girl you like..pass your number and tell her you will be waiting for her at Juliana disco..most of the girls from Jaguar and other bars hang out in Juliana for late pickings.
Cyber Whip
09-03-10, 20:06
I have RTFF but my question is an odd one. A girl I am meeting is inquisitive and wants to visit a Bikini bar. I suggested we could choose one to take home - but that does not seem to be her interest.( well maybe)
In any case which club would you recommend ? Clearly one that’s more safe - more upmarket - if I can possibly use that term .
Thanks for your advice.
RadoboyWell, obviously you're getting all kinds of suggestions. I just have to throw my 2 cents in for what it's worth. If you like beer drinking, and who don't, then I suggest going to Mango Ave and hitting each place there, 1 beer each place, then move on to the next. I have taken my gf on this tour before and it works out very well. There was one or two places that will make you buy a drink for your girl even if she doesn't want it, so there was a few places I had to drink two. The best place that we found just to watch the dancing was the place on Mango that you have to go upstairs, I can't remember the name, I think it was directly across the street from vikings. The dancing was good there, sometimes the girls were dancing in pairs and appeared to be loosely, choreographed. You can skip the black hole if it is still open, that place was crap.
................. Also know that things will be very different when you enter the bar with another woman. The dancers will stay far away from you and will never come approach you unless they want to take your drink or food order or you call one over. The mamasan might come over to see how you are and to chat up the girl to see if she works at another bar or is looking for work.
Stroker - Excellent post and great detailed advice.
I would just demur a little on the comment you made (quoted above). My experience has been that there are always some girls who will like to talk to both me and my companion in a purely friendly and welcoming way. My girl is naturally friendly and on a recent occasion and within a few minutes she and a group of Bgs were laughing and cackling away at some joke.
I agree that the B/gs will not try to "seduce" you or anything like that but my experience is that many just like to be friendly. They are curious too of course about you and your friend's "status", and always like to know where we met and stuff like that in case they can pull off the same trick I guess.
Thanks to all for your advice. And a special mention to Stroker Ace88. You answered the questions I should have asked. Thanks for the insightful advice.
RB
(This is my second posting of thanks. Looks like the first one didn't make it through the cybermaze)
Post is continued from my previous on the Manila thread at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1063527&postcount=5753
Arrived in Cebu from Manila yesterday, armed with having read the entire ISG Cebu thread over the span of the last 2-3 weeks (yes, all 290+ pages dating back to 2002).
Taxi situation at the airport has changed. Walking out from Arrivals, there does not seem to be anyone hopping into cabs right out front, despite there being some sort of taxi queue set up. There didnt even seem to be cabs arriving to pick passengers up here. Most, if not everyone, walked across the street and up the stairs (as was previously frequently recommended on this board) to a taxi stand adjacent to the entrance to Departures. Temporary shortage of taxis when I arrived, causing the line to stretch from the top of the stairs all the way to the bottom on the Arrivals level. Big sign posted up front stating that you are only required to pay the metered fare, furthermore you are given a slip of paper with contact info in case of complaints against your ride... My fare to the Marriot was about PHP 150 (approx. USD 3.25) on the meter, probably the cheapest cab fare I've ever paid for an airport-to-city run. I'm beginning to like it here.
In a well-appointed room with a nice view of Ayala Terraces below. Security here is tight, full check around the undercarriage of my taxi when I arrived, front entrance to hotel is set up like a boarding gate at the airport - conveyor belt x-ray machine, walk-through metal detector, wanded by security personnel - definitely no messing around here. A previous poster commented that it feels like the US Embassy in Lebanon - no kidding. Booked through the hotel's website, USD 91++/night.
Mall Pickups - Ayala Mall
The mall was packed, it being a Friday afternoon with some sort of variety show going on in the central podium. However, I spotted no obvious talent whatsoever, besides your odd white gent - pinay half his age couples here and there. Interestingly enough, spotted quite a few Korean tourists, mixed groups incl. couples. Had dinner, then a coffee outside, then returned to the Marriot. This Mall is a lot more sanitary/well behaved compared to Robinsons Malate in Manila... am I missing something?
Mermaid's
The route out from the Ayala area to Mactan is crap, through poorly lit industrial/port areas. Walked in at about 10:30 pm, there was about 20-25 girls available in total, a group of 6 Koreans had taken up quite a few. Small groups of Pinoys, 3 other guys at the bar where I sat, sounded American. All the girls came out in groups of 4 or 5 to dance. There was some sort of fashion show (labeled as Friday night's special presentation) that was a little amusing. The whole place reminded me of some Batam club or some of the back-alley north Jakarta (Kota) clubs - mixed with a high school dance hall (!)
Out of 20+ girls, counted 3 I would take home. Out of the 3, 1 eventually approached. 1 was already with customer, the last avoided eye contact. I had 3 drinks before the papasan (Jel) would say hi. A little too laidback here. The minute I bought the girl (1 of the 3) an LD, she put the pressure on a little too much, she wanted another and another and another but I drew the line at 3. Then she wanted food. I told her I would love to have her over after work. Didnt bite. So I walked, before I could be pressured to get Sisig.
It being about 1 am at this time, I thought it would be perfect to show up at Arena, for the 'non-official' pickings at 2:30 am.
Arena
This is located in the middle of nowhere in an industrial/port area referred to by locals as 'Reclamation'.
Walked in at about 1:15 am to all the mamasans chilling in the front lounge before you enter the main hall... Thereafter, I was practically brought to my seat in front of the catwalk, my drink order taken and received, and then received no service at all from then on!
Some of you are saying the best looking girls are here? You're kidding. The tallest girl with bleached blonde hair looked like a tranny. One or two that caught my eye practically disappeared after their dance, the others were nothing to write home about/uninspiring/forgettable. Caught the eye of a little cutie who was sitting with a group of girls at a table behind me on the main floor. Beckoned to her to come over and she did. It wasnt 5 minutes before we started chatting that a 'mamasan' miraculously appeared to ask if I would buy her a LD. And if yes, there is a mandatory LD charge to the mamasan as well, so basically for the 1st LD that you buy, an additional LD goes to the mamasan, so at PHP 600 a pop, you are out PHP1200 before you can say 'chopped liver'. This is after having received no service whatsoever from the mamasan prior. How could this be?! Perhaps my late arrival meant to them that I had to DIY?! I mean come on, if its house rules to buy the mamasan a LD along with the 1st LD you buy, at least work for it?!?
Walked out of here close to 3 am with one (very expensive) phone number, contemplated briefly a casa, but decided instead to take it as a learning experience and to head back to the hotel empty handed...
Rubio Tonto
09-04-10, 13:27
Cops suspect sibling rivalry
http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleid=587163
Infas,
Thanks for the report. Can you choose the massage girl at Chuva-Chuva from a lineup or they give you whoever is next on the list?
If you can remember, how much did you pay for FS at Finland?The girl at chuva-chuva was presented to me. I guess if i didn't liked the girl you can ask to have another.
I paid at finland 2000 peso to the massagegirl.
WestCoast1
09-04-10, 16:35
On your first visit(s) to Cebu. Nice report RB.
Mall Pickups - Ayala Mall
The mall was packed, it being a Friday afternoon with some sort of variety show going on in the central podium. However, I spotted no obvious talent whatsoever, besides your odd white gent - pinay half his age couples here and there. Interestingly enough, spotted quite a few Korean tourists, mixed groups incl. couples. Had dinner, then a coffee outside, then returned to the Marriot. This Mall is a lot more sanitary/well behaved compared to Robinsons Malate in Manila... am I missing something?I've been to Cebu 6 times now, and I learn something new everytime (unlike Manila, where two trips got it down pat). You mentioned Ayala Mall. When I was in Cebu a few weeks ago, I had just the opposite experience. I was the only gringo in the mall that morning. I was nearly molested by two cuties in the late morning, just walking down the hallway. I have already posted their picture on the board. They were desperate (and told me so, sitting in Starbucks) for an afternoon's work, and smiled and nodded yes when I mentioned p500 each if they stayed with me all afternoon. I kept thinking, "Is this really happening? An young aunt and a niece? A twin-pack? You only read about this stuff on ISG. Oh wait! You're in filipines! "
In Gaisano mall, a similar experience on a different day, two girls said "Hi sir", and attached themselves to my arms as soon as I said, "Hello, ladies. " Sweet girls, but a bit pushy in the sense that they assumed they had just found their daily quota of cano for the day. "Remember buddy, you're in filipines. " Another p500/each situation. In Robinson's/osmena on another day in the morning the same thing happened, another twin-pack, same price. Later in the afternoon, back in Robinson's to pick up some toiletries, YET ANOTHER set of girls. I took them for one reason only: to take them. I wasn't a bit randy, we just got naked and laid on the bed for about 2 hours, watching TV and talking. Why bother taking them if not randy? Who cares at these prices? Cebuanas, as I learned on my recent trip, are glad to work for 500 pesos, and every last one of them was smiling and happy to have the work.
I kept repeating to myself: "This can't be happening. This can't be happening. Wait! You're in Philippines! " Never had this happen anywhere before, and never heard of this kind of thing happening before. My new best friends: Robinson's, Ayala, Gaisano. "One-stop shopping: Toothbrush (check). Toothpaste (check). One small set / one medium set titties (check). Bar soap for the shower (check). Perfect ass (check). Razors (check). Pussy, or pair of (check). Fresh fruit (check). Pretty smiles (check). Bread (check). Girl willing to spread her labia for camera closeup (check). Peanut Butter (check). Girl to help me carry my groceries back to the hotel and BJ (check). Plastic cutlery (check).
Then, RB brings me back to reality. When I posted before about getting several 3-somes, I got PM's from cebu regulars who confirmed that mall trolling is easier in cebu than manila (well, except Harrison's/Malate). Sorry RB you had a different experience, but I can't wait to get back to my 3 best friends.
And if yes, there is a mandatory LD charge to the mamasan as well, so basically for the 1st LD that you buy, an additional LD goes to the mamasan, so at PHP 600 a pop, you are out PHP1200 before you can say 'chopped liver'. This is after having received no service whatsoever from the mamasan prior. How could this be?! Perhaps my late arrival meant to them that I had to DIY?! I mean come on, if its house rules to buy the mamasan a LD along with the 1st LD you buy, at least work for it?!Oooowwww.Pinched! Lesson learned, I can stay out of that place. Thanks for the info. For p1700 barfine, there's a mess of cuties in the 5-6 Mango girlie bars (Vikings, Sisters), and they don't ask for a tip (well, not so far).
Cyber Whip
09-04-10, 16:42
Post is continued from my previous on the Manila thread at http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1063527&postcount=5753
Arrived in Cebu from Manila yesterday, armed with having read the entire ISG Cebu thread over the span of the last 2-3 weeks (yes, all 290+ pages dating back to 2002).
Taxi situation at the airport has changed. Walking out from Arrivals, there does not seem to be anyone hopping into cabs right out front, despite there being some sort of taxi queue set up. There didn't even seem to be cabs arriving to pick passengers up here. Most, if not everyone, walked across the street and up the stairs (as was previously frequently recommended on this board) to a taxi stand adjacent to the entrance to Departures. Temporary shortage of taxis when I arrived, causing the line to stretch from the top of the stairs all the way to the bottom on the Arrivals level. Big sign posted up front stating that you are only required to pay the metered fare, furthermore you are given a slip of paper with contact info in case of complaints against your ride. My fare to the Marriot was about PHP 150 (approx. USD 3. 25) on the meter, probably the cheapest cab fare I've ever paid for an airport-to-city run. I'm beginning to like it here.
In a well-appointed room with a nice view of Ayala Terraces below. Security here is tight, full check around the undercarriage of my taxi when I arrived, front entrance to hotel is set up like a boarding gate at the airport. Conveyor belt x-ray machine, walk-through metal detector, wanded by security personnel. Definitely no messing around here. A previous poster commented that it feels like the US Embassy in Lebanon. No kidding. Booked through the hotel's website, USD 91++/night.
Mall Pickups. Ayala Mall
The mall was packed, it being a Friday afternoon with some sort of variety show going on in the central podium. However, I spotted no obvious talent whatsoever, besides your odd white gent. Pinay half his age couples here and there. Interestingly enough, spotted quite a few Korean tourists, mixed groups incl. Couples. Had dinner, then a coffee outside, then returned to the Marriot. This Mall is a lot more sanitary/well behaved compared to Robinsons Malate in Manila. Am I missing something?
Mermaid's
The route out from the Ayala area to Mactan is crap, through poorly lit industrial/port areas. Walked in at about 10: 30 pm, there was about 20-25 girls available in total, a group of 6 Koreans had taken up quite a few. Small groups of Pinoys, 3 other guys at the bar where I sat, sounded American. All the girls came out in groups of 4 or 5 to dance. There was some sort of fashion show (labeled as Friday night's special presentation) that was a little amusing. The whole place reminded me of some Batam club or some of the back-alley north Jakarta (Kota) clubs. Mixed with a high school dance hall (!)
Out of 20+ girls, counted 3 I would take home. Out of the 3, 1 eventually approached. 1 was already with customer, the last avoided eye contact. I had 3 drinks before the papasan (Jel) would say Hi. A little too laidback here. The minute I bought the girl (1 of the 3) an LD, she put the pressure on a little too much, she wanted another and another and another but I drew the line at 3. Then she wanted food. I told her I would love to have her over after work. Didn't bite. So I walked, before I could be pressured to get Sisig.
It being about 1 am at this time, I thought it would be perfect to show up at Arena, for the 'non-official' pickings at 2:30 am.
Arena
This is located in the middle of nowhere in an industrial/port area referred to by locals as 'Reclamation'.
Walked in at about 1:15 am to all the mamasans chilling in the front lounge before you enter the main hall. Thereafter, I was practically brought to my seat in front of the catwalk, my drink order taken and received, and then received no service at all from then on!
Some of you are saying the best looking girls are here? You're kidding. The tallest girl with bleached blonde hair looked like a tranny. One or two that caught my eye practically disappeared after their dance, the others were nothing to write home about/uninspiring/forgettable. Caught the eye of a little cutie who was sitting with a group of girls at a table behind me on the main floor. Beckoned to her to come over and she did. It wasnt 5 minutes before we started chatting that a 'mamasan' miraculously appeared to ask if I would buy her a LD. And if yes, there is a mandatory LD charge to the mamasan as well, so basically for the 1st LD that you buy, an additional LD goes to the mamasan, so at PHP 600 a pop, you are out PHP1200 before you can say 'chopped liver'. This is after having received no service whatsoever from the mamasan prior. How could this be?! Perhaps my late arrival meant to them that I had to DIY?! I mean come on, if its house rules to buy the mamasan a LD along with the 1st LD you buy, at least work for it?!
Walked out of here close to 3 am with one (very expensive) phone number, contemplated briefly a casa, but decided instead to take it as a learning experience and to head back to the hotel empty handed.Nice update, especially the airport situation. I was there just two months ago and there were airport taxis for fixed fee just outside the exit door. I think I paid around 350p to Marriott.
My experience at Arena a few years ago was a little different. After I went in, they immediately led me to the back where I seen girls in a room through a glass window. Then the girl came out to my table. There were quite a few ladyboys there but they were upfront about it, didn't try to scam, at least that I know of.
Sorry, you are right. My memory has failed me again.
When I was going there, the dancers were often naked, partiularly as the night got later, and some were getting a bit desperate to get a customer to bf.
Do they still dance naked?
As for taking a gf to a girlie bar. Well, teh best that I have found is Dunk Shot, in Angeles city.
The girls there often strip to naked. And there is a rather crude comedy show which gets the women screaming with laughter. That makes it much easier for them, and they soon get into the swing of things. They are fascinated by the dancers bodies. I guess that they generally never see a naked woman in their lives. So they are more than a little interested.
Last month, the dancers were alll pretty heavy, as against in the past where they have been tall and statuesque. The gf was very interested in the continuous parade of dancers to the VIP rooms at the back. And at the shortness of teh turnaround time.
By the way, a VIP room costs 2,000 consumable, and th girl is free for whatever you want. No time limit. But the drinks in the room are expensive, and the women's drinks are about double. So you go through 2,000 very quickly.
I guess if you found a real firecracker, you just keep her in the room all night. But probably much more expensive in total than pulling a girl from a regular bar.
Also, when you buy drinks, they come in pairs.. So the bill can rack up pretty quickly.
On the occasions when I have gone there, I was teh only foreigner, except for the last time when there was one other.
A good fun evening, for you and your girl.
G
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Osmena Circle
Cab fare was PHP50 exactly on the meter from Ayala Mall. About the only action I got in all arriving on a Saturday afternoon at 4 pm, was a guy peddling Viagra/Cialis as I got out of the cab heading into the mall. In the span of an Inasal Chicken Bacolod snack and a coffee at Bo's, I noticed very very sparsed talent on the prowl. There was the odd tranny or two hanging about, an older white gent/much younger pinay date at Bo's, but that was about it.
Mango Ave Bars - Papillon
Meant to do a small bar crawl of the Mango Ave bars, then finish at Jaguar but never made it past this one.
Was accosted by an older girl, whom I took to be like a mamasan and treated her like one but she didnt say she was one. Apparently no mamasans here. Picked a cutie 'japonista' (japanophile) spinner for a BF of PHP2000. LDs are PHP200 each. Jack and Coke PHP150 each.
Door policy at the Marriot meant an extended walk of shame, but I didnt care. Girl's ID optional, just enter on sign-in book.
LFK, BBBJ, multiple positions FS, slight PSE with this girl. Unfortunately left after 1 pop. Had me a runner, although offered to visit me during the day. Sent her off with PHP100 for the cab.
Hope to find me a keeper tomorrow...
...Then, RB brings me back to reality. When I posted before about getting several 3-somes, I got PM's from cebu regulars who confirmed that mall trolling is easier in cebu than manila (well, except Harrison's/Malate). Sorry RB you had a different experience, but I can't wait to get back to my 3 best friends.
Oooowwww.Pinched! Lesson learned, I can stay out of that place. Thanks for the info. For p1700 barfine, there's a mess of cuties in the 5-6 Mango girlie bars (Vikings, Sisters), and they don't ask for a tip (well, not so far).
Hey, I remember you... you're the one who said I was driving up the prices in AC by tipping the bargirls when I was really talking about EDSA in Manila... :D
Anyway yeah... maybe because youre a gringo. Me: mid-late 30s over-aged raver from a small ASEAN country with a GDP per-capita not too far behind that of the US. ;) Maybe the girls mistake me for Pinoy so I dont get approached at the Malls! I once had an issue barfining a girl at EDSA because the mamasan thought I was Pinoy (and a potential cop!) Situation was resolved by my showing them I had a foreign credit card!
Starchild2012
09-05-10, 07:31
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Osmena Circle
Cab fare was PHP50 exactly on the meter from Ayala Mall. About the only action I got in all arriving on a Saturday afternoon at 4 pm, was a guy peddling Viagra/Cialis as I got out of the cab heading into the mall. In the span of an Inasal Chicken Bacolod snack and a coffee at Bo's, I noticed very very sparsed talent on the prowl. There was the odd tranny or two hanging about, an older white gent/much younger pinay date at Bo's, but that was about it.
Mango Ave Bars - Papillon
Meant to do a small bar crawl of the Mango Ave bars, then finish at Jaguar but never made it past this one.
Was accosted by an older girl, whom I took to be like a mamasan and treated her like one but she didnt say she was one. Apparently no mamasans here. Picked a cutie 'japonista' (japanophile) spinner for a BF of PHP2000. LDs are PHP200 each. Jack and Coke PHP150 each.
Door policy at the Marriot meant an extended walk of shame, but I didnt care. Girl's ID optional, just enter on sign-in book.
LFK, BBBJ, multiple positions FS, slight PSE with this girl. Unfortunately left after 1 pop. Had me a runner, although offered to visit me during the day. Sent her off with PHP100 for the cab.
Hope to find me a keeper tomorrow...
Sorry about the experience in Arena...As you have read all the post in Cebu thread...i for one wrote lots of reports on Arena and Jaguar and the pickings at 2 AM. Guess all good things comes to an End.
As you are still in Cebu and went to Jaguar...try the same trick in Jaguar also...go late and get the numbers when girls walk out of the bar and when they wait for taxi..you can pick them .....no worries...it will take some time to get used to these things...or better go very late or wait outside ..just as when the bar closes..you can pick the girls :)...i know its a hard job...just few tips to avoid bar fine .. :)
Give Juliana disco a try...Did you get Date in Asia girls number's..the bar girls scene in PH is only for one who don't stay longer..if you stay for more than a week....you won't regret dating regular girls......there are 100's of girls in yahoo chat and Date in Asia willing to have a good time in Cebu....
Trust me when i say this...spend atleast couple of hours on Yahoo chat and date in Asia now while in Cebu...if you don't get a dream date and enjoy your life's out...i will not come to Cebu for giving you bad advice....:) (i'm lying here...its too late for me now :) seriously, Date in Asia and yahoo chat is your way to freedom, unlimited love and heaven.
Man, im not from west....im from India and my faith in humanity was restored by going to PH..im also brown...in my mid 30's not rich...just an IT guy....BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THIS>>>YOU ARE IN HEAVEN RIGHT NOW....YOU HAVE THE ABILITY FOR UNLIMITED SEX RIGHT NOW "COS YOU ARE IN CEBU..
YOU CAN HAVE ALL SEX YOU WANT FROM ALL REGULAR GIRLS WITH LITTLE EFFORT>>>Stop going to bars...hunt for regular girls....there is no discrimination..smile...be funny..respect the girls...they don't ask much money....I'm just getting excited by just writing this post with the sea on UNLIMITED opportunity you have right now.
Good Luck....
Sorry about the experience in Arena...As you have read all the post in Cebu thread...i for one wrote lots of reports on Arena and Jaguar and the pickings at 2 AM. Guess all good things comes to an End.
...Give Juliana disco a try...Did you get Date in Asia girls number's..the bar girls scene in PH is only for one who don't stay longer..if you stay for more than a week....you won't regret dating regular girls......there are 100's of girls in yahoo chat and Date in Asia willing to have a good time in Cebu....
...Man, im not from west....im from India and my faith in humanity was restored by going to PH..im also brown...in my mid 30's not rich...just an IT guy....BELIEVE ME WHEN I SAY THIS>>>YOU ARE IN HEAVEN RIGHT NOW....YOU HAVE THE ABILITY FOR UNLIMITED SEX RIGHT NOW "COS YOU ARE IN CEBU...
Thanks for the enthusiasm, its ... er... nice. :rolleyes:
I'm Singaporean of Chinese descent. Don't think I've been called brown ever in my life. Maybe I was brown once, when I was doing my military service (we call it NS in Singapore). The older Davaoena GRO who stuck to me when I first walked into Papillon last night had to make 5 guesses before she got it right (Japanese, Korean, Tagalog, Visayan, Singaporean, in that very order). This is coming from an apparently seasoned pro who has already done the BmD bar circuit at Paramount in Singapore for 4 months.
I leave Cebu tomorrow and I was willing to spend 2 weeks prior to this trip sending out mail on a social networking site (not DIA or FH). Got several responses, which quickly dwindled down to 3, then to 1. That one ended up being hot from far, but far from hot, on closer inspection of her pics. So I didnt bother. As far as the other 2, 1 turned out to be a bakla, yet another dropped all contact after connecting with me on YM. So go figure.
So you say I am in heaven, huh? That's what I say when I became expatriate in Vietnam, when I visit Southern China for the KTVs, BKK for the soapies, CGK for the Kota scene, MNL for that Pinay GFE. CEB... hmm... not sure now...
Sorry, but I have a high benchmark in South East Asia. ;)
SergeantRay
09-05-10, 16:53
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Osmena Circle
Cab fare was PHP50 exactly on the meter from Ayala Mall. About the only action I got in all arriving on a Saturday afternoon at 4 pm, was a guy peddling Viagra/Cialis as I got out of the cab heading into the mall. In the span of an Inasal Chicken Bacolod snack and a coffee at Bo's, I noticed very very sparsed talent on the prowl. There was the odd tranny or two hanging about, an older white gent/much younger pinay date at Bo's, but that was about it.
Mango Ave Bars - Papillon
Meant to do a small bar crawl of the Mango Ave bars, then finish at Jaguar but never made it past this one.
Was accosted by an older girl, whom I took to be like a mamasan and treated her like one but she didnt say she was one. Apparently no mamasans here. Picked a cutie 'japonista' (japanophile) spinner for a BF of PHP2000. LDs are PHP200 each. Jack and Coke PHP150 each.
Door policy at the Marriot meant an extended walk of shame, but I didnt care. Girl's ID optional, just enter on sign-in book.
LFK, BBBJ, multiple positions FS, slight PSE with this girl. Unfortunately left after 1 pop. Had me a runner, although offered to visit me during the day. Sent her off with PHP100 for the cab.
Hope to find me a keeper tomorrow...Raverboy,
Anybody who is a runner gets NOTHING. In my book if you do nothing, you get nothing. I think giving 100 pesos for the cab just encourages that behavior.
WestCoast1
09-05-10, 21:52
Hey, I remember you... you're the one who said I was driving up the prices in AC by tipping the bargirls when I was really talking about EDSA in Manila... :D
Anyway yeah... maybe because youre a gringo.My tip rarely varies: P100 for taxi/tryke, in any city in phils.
Mall Pickups - Robinsons Osmena Circle
. Unfortunately left after 1 pop. Had me a runner, although offered to visit me during the day. Sent her off with PHP100 for the cab.
Hope to find me a keeper tomorrow...If you gave the runner an extra 100p tip (=taxi money) hoping she will keep her promise to visit you during the day, forget it. As you pointed out, She is a runner and that's what they do, Run away and don't come back.
It was a mistake to give her anything extra.--just my point of view
FZ
I arrived Tuesday the 31 Aug with a Dia girl lined up or the first date! (meet at airport) of course no show.
Got to hotel, checked e mail "sorry I was not there can I come now! Wille grabed my attention and replied "come over quickly. "
The girl came within 20 minutes, her picture on Dia did not do her justice pretty I was told she would score 7/10 I leave that to better judges then me. Only problem I encouted really was her nievity into giving me oral stimulation, It turned out I'm the first contact she has met through DIA which I tend to belive. So further training will have to take place. Her expectation financially I gave her 600 she was happy I was happy good result.
Today writing this report on the 5th Sept, this will be, my 4th encounter with Dia 1no go, (she just got back, what do I get and what do you want) 2, straight sex, 1 today just wanted too much from a 59 year old, (none have demurred when givern 600 peso)forgot lube (where can I buy some)? Please.
Mistakes I have made,
First great idea, thought this would be like Thailand in buying clothes It is hopeless and over priced, (bring your own)
Second great idea, I'll buy a lap top over there and sell before I leave, so surprised at the price they are asking for them (second hand) bring your own.
Third great idea booked a hotel in downtown Mandaue, now spending too much time going to the mulls and back so less opertunity to run back with a conquest still I'll change hotels next week.
Mall Pickups - SM Mall Cebu
Cab fare was just under PHP50 on the meter from Ayala Mall. Mall was heaving, it being a Sunday afternoon. Noticed quite a few Japanese and Korean female tourists, usually in pairs, window shopping. A single Korean female in the outdoor patio of Coffee Bean, busy texting on her mobile phone. Again, no visible talent. Am beginning to think I either have no luck, or don't have the right approach, or don't look the part, i.e. like someone trying to find a *****. :D
Did a little shopping, retired to the Marriot.
After a late dinner, re-attempted to do a small bar crawl of the Mango Ave bars, then finish at Jaguar. Began at 9 pm. Didnt make it to Jaguar in the end. Perhaps all the better.
Mango Ave Bars - Red Lips
New bar located off Mango Ave on a small alley adjacent to Yellow Cab Pizza. About 10-15 girls, but many (waitstaff and mamasan included) seemed focussed on Japanese/Korean customers. Spotted 2 I would BF, but they were occupied with, yes you guessed it, Koreans/Japanese clientele. (Mamasan Cora)
Mango Ave Bars - Vikings
Thought I would drop by here as it apparently is an institution in these parts. Went straight to the bar and ordered a drink, in full view of the stage. Spotted 1 or 2 I would BF but again, 1 was taken by a Japanese or Korean client, the other was 1 of about 4-5 girls the mamasan brought to a single Japanese/Korean client, who was buying everyone a round. wtf? I was noticing a trend here. Took ages before mamasan would acknowledge me. Had 1 drink and left. (Mamasan Nene)
Mango Ave Bars - Love City
Thought I might try this place since I pulled from their sister bar last night. ;) Spartan but efficient set-up of a central and large circular stage with dance poles. Bar off to one side. Tables surround the stage for a full 360 deg. live view. Wow... counted at least 3 I would readily BF, including 1 that was amazing on stage with her acrobatic abilities. Unfortunately she was already tabled. Didnt take long to spot my PSE for the night. Then came the shock of the PHP4000 BF. I was like "look, everywhere else here its PHP1700", what gives? Mamasan Layka would not budge, claiming that was the price at Love City. Negotiated that the girl absolutely stays LT and should expect nothing more than PHP100 cab fare when she leaves - all terms eventually delivered satisfactorily by the girl, who just left my room as I'm typing this. Its 1:45 pm and she provided 2 long pops, 1 last night and 1 before she left.
This concludes my little Cebu adventure.
... Leaving soon for Manila for the transit home.
Raverboy,
Anybody who is a runner gets NOTHING. In my book if you do nothing, you get nothing. I think giving 100 pesos for the cab just encourages that behavior.
Noted, Sarge. Good rule.
My tip rarely varies: P100 for taxi/tryke, in any city in phils.
Yes, but the confusion is due to semantics. EDSA girls expect PHP2500 or thereabouts for LT in addition to the BF of PHP1600 paid to the bar that is split (or not?) between the bar and the girl. The PHP2500 really should be called a 'fee' but I refer to it as 'tip'. Yes, with the inverted commas. :)
Starchild2012
09-06-10, 09:36
Mall Pickups - SM Mall Cebu
Cab fare was just under PHP50 on the meter from Ayala Mall. Mall was heaving, it being a Sunday afternoon. Noticed quite a few Japanese and Korean female tourists, usually in pairs, window shopping. A single Korean female in the outdoor patio of Coffee Bean, busy texting on her mobile phone. Again, no visible talent. Am beginning to think I either have no luck, or don't have the right approach, or don't look the part, i.e. like someone trying to find a *****. :D
Good TR...hope you enjoyed your stay in Cebu..
Good TR...hope you enjoyed your stay in Cebu..
Yes, thanks to all for the reports on this thread. I doubt I will return (for a pure mongering trip), as I believe the transit and extra return flights to and from CEB from MNL do not justify it as a mongering destination to me, considering the offerings. I'll stick to my secret shortlist, MNL retains its position in it. ;)
GregLondon
09-07-10, 01:50
First great idea, thought this would be like Thailand in buying clothes It is hopeless and over priced, (bring your own)
Second great idea, I'll buy a lap top over there and sell before I leave, so surprised at the price they are asking for them (second hand) bring your own.
Third great idea booked a hotel in downtown Mandaue, now spending too much time going to the mulls and back so less opertunity to run back with a conquest still I'll change hotels next week.
Good to see you settling in Col.
3 solid pieces of advice. The first is especially important if you need very large sizes, but even if you are average size the quality/cost of clothes in Phils is very poor. As Col says, don't expect another Thailand, the number of foreigners here is not large enough to justify the shops stocking Western sizes/quality.
Laptops here are 6-12 months out of date compared with the West and about 25% dearer than in the UK let alone the US, so buying overseas is a good idea. They do however come with US English keyboards which is an advantage over Thailand. If you want to spend alot of time hanging out with girls in your room and you use your laptop alot consider also buying a netbook as a second computer, it will increase your popularity considerably.
I think netbooks are fine for checking email, ultra mobility and as a second computer etc, but if you are planning to do much work on then during your stay, most people will find the basic processor and small screen size very annoying after a while. Personally I bought a cheap 17 inch screen model (with a dual core chip, low end graphics card and 1GB of storage). Obviously its chunky to carry around, but not substantially more than the standard 15inch laptops. As I use the laptop alot for photo editing and stock analysis, i mind the extra pixels/screen size a great benefit.
Raverboy's Cebu Sept. 2010 Trip Summary and Observations - for the benefit of ISGers
Note: I have made multiple trips to the PI in the last 2 years and have visited MNL (multiple trips), AC (multiple trips), Boracay (1) and now Cebu (1).
1. Mall pickups - Higher hit rate if youre a caucasian male or look typically Korean or Japanese. I suppose that applies to most of you reading this. The pinays tend to avoid anyone who looks remotely pinoy, likely for fear of undercover cops. As a mid-late 30s Singaporean Chinese, I probably look Chinito from suburban Makati and potentially like Authority, so I had zero success rate in Cebu. Only exception I have found is Robinsons Ermita in MNL, but then again I got hit on only by a bakla or two. (!)
2. Cebu Airport taxi situation has changed. Head across the driveway out front of the Arrivals area, go up the stairs to the metered taxi line adjacent to the entrance to Departures. Drivers are required to put on the meter. Airport to Marriot should be around PHP 150 (USD3+change). Just my opinion, but the poor taxi khuyas certainly deserve a tip if they render a polite and efficient service to you without trying any monkey business. I am expatriate in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, where the taxi fare from the airport to District 1 is about USD 6 (about VND 120,000) on the meter, and I thought it couldnt get any cheaper!
3. Mango Ave bars - Sure, I only have a sample size of 3, but from what I have observed, mamasans and bargirls overwhelmingly favour the Korean and Japanese clientele, more so here than at EDSA in MNL. Likely for their spending habits and low maintenance. They have their own forums like this one and live in their own worlds, so I doubt many would be reading this, but don't they say, 5-5-5? (that's 5 inches, 5 minutes, 5000 pesos) or was it 3-3-3? :D
4. Jaguar and Arena - Since I didnt make it out to Jaguar (only Arena) and for the sake of argument, I'll assume they are both 'in the same league' and therefore similar. There's way too much hype on here and on another website or two about these bars. The same preference of mamasans and bargirls was observed (I derive this from their indifference to me even though I'm a paying customer just like anyone else). At Arena, once a girl sits down with you, you will be told politely that it is 'company policy' that you order a LD @ PHP 600 for the girl, and that it is also 'company policy' that for the 1st LD you order, you are also required to buy the mamasan an LD @ PHP 600. Ergo, you will be out PHP 1200 (about USD25) at the get go. You have been warned. This must be the only place in the PI where a damn pussy drink is more expensive than in my own country.
5. Mermaid Bar - I had rather good expectations for this place from what I read on this board and elsewhere on the net, only to be disappointed overall due in large part by a persistently thirsty and hungry bargirl. If anything the route out to Mactan from Cebu City is crap. There is construction at one or two major intersections along this route now, and they seem to be working late into the night, if not 24 hours.
6. As I did on my previous visit to the PI, I sent out messages on a social networking site (not a dating site like DIA or FH). Got a much lower hit rate for Cebu than I did for Manila on the previous visit. But then again, I dont have much time to waste on these sites, nor do I really care.
7. A word on the Marriot - you really cant beat the location and the quality vs. price quotient. You might be put off by their security, but after all it's for your safety and they are girl-friendly by this board's definition (no joiner fee, no interaction/conversation with your date). Just that security is tight, and I counted 2 at driveway entrance, 6 or 7 at the door/x-ray machine = 8-9 security personnel (mostly male, 1 female) in total when you return with your catch-of-the-night, so it can be intimidating. She has to sign in with your room number on a log-register placed conveniently at the front desk but this will be while you stand around looking like a happy fool in full view of the 6 or 7 afore-mentioned security personnel. I entertained the thought of switching to the Parklane to avoid this scene altogether, but in the end decided against foregoing the comfort, quality and convenience of the Marriot just to save a few bucks.
8. A side note and just a comment: I caught a bit of the live telecast where the Board of Inquiry was interviewing (inquiring?) a PNP Colonel (the 2nd-in-command?) about the Mendoza incident. It was absolutely atrocious. I did not see or hear anything on this guy's face nor from his words that indicated any sense of responsibility nor integrity nor any sense of wanting to see justice prevail on this matter, even though it was clearly a breakdown in the chain of command and an overall failure of their system to respond to such an 'crisis event'. It was all "Ma'am I was not there", "Sir I did not see", "Ma'am I do not know", in response to some pointed questions by some of the members of the Board. I hope the Chinese government steps in, that's when the shit will really hit the fan. This is the same government that will not hesitate to open fire on its own people in order to restore order.
Just my 2 pesos.
Cheers.
GregLondon
09-07-10, 03:56
Raverboy's Cebu Sept. 2010 Trip Summary and Observations - for the benefit of ISGers
Note: I have made multiple trips to the PI in the last 2 years and have visited MNL (multiple trips), AC (multiple trips), Boracay (1) and now Cebu (1).
1. Mall pickups - Higher hit rate if youre a caucasian male or look typically Korean or Japanese. I suppose that applies to most of you reading this. The pinays tend to avoid anyone who looks remotely pinoy, likely for fear of undercover cops. As a mid-late 30s Singaporean Chinese, I probably look Chinito from suburban Makati and potentially like Authority, so I had zero success rate in Cebu. Only exception I have found is Robinsons Ermita in MNL, but then again I got hit on only by a bakla or two. (!)
2. Cebu Airport taxi situation has changed. Head across the driveway out front of the Arrivals area, go up the stairs to the metered taxi line adjacent to the entrance to Departures. Drivers are required to put on the meter. Airport to Marriot should be around PHP 150 (USD3+change). Just my opinion, but the poor taxi khuyas certainly deserve a tip if they render a polite and efficient service to you without trying any monkey business. I am expatriate in Ho Chi Minh City, Vietnam, where the taxi fare from the airport to District 1 is about USD 6 (about VND 120,000) on the meter, and I thought it couldnt get any cheaper!
3. Mango Ave bars - Sure, I only have a sample size of 3, but from what I have observed, mamasans and bargirls overwhelmingly favour the Korean and Japanese clientele, more so here than at EDSA in MNL. Likely for their spending habits and low maintenance. They have their own forums like this one and live in their own worlds, so I doubt many would be reading this, but don't they say, 5-5-5? (that's 5 inches, 5 minutes, 5000 pesos) or was it 3-3-3? :D
4. Jaguar and Arena - Since I didnt make it out to Jaguar (only Arena) and for the sake of argument, I'll assume they are both 'in the same league' and therefore similar. There's way too much hype on here and on another website or two about these bars. The same preference of mamasans and bargirls was observed (I derive this from their indifference to me even though I'm a paying customer just like anyone else). At Arena, once a girl sits down with you, you will be told politely that it is 'company policy' that you order a LD @ PHP 600 for the girl, and that it is also 'company policy' that for the 1st LD you order, you are also required to buy the mamasan an LD @ PHP 600. Ergo, you will be out PHP 1200 (about USD25) at the get go. You have been warned. This must be the only place in the PI where a damn pussy drink is more expensive than in my own country.
5. Mermaid Bar - I had rather good expectations for this place from what I read on this board and elsewhere on the net, only to be disappointed overall due in large part by a persistently thirsty and hungry bargirl. If anything the route out to Mactan from Cebu City is crap. There is construction at one or two major intersections along this route now, and they seem to be working late into the night, if not 24 hours.
6. As I did on my previous visit to the PI, I sent out messages on a social networking site (not a dating site like DIA or FH). Got a much lower hit rate for Cebu than I did for Manila on the previous visit. But then again, I dont have much time to waste on these sites, nor do I really care.
7. A word on the Marriot - you really cant beat the location and the quality vs. price quotient. You might be put off by their security, but after all it's for your safety and they are girl-friendly by this board's definition (no joiner fee, no interaction/conversation with your date). Just that security is tight, and I counted 2 at driveway entrance, 6 or 7 at the door/x-ray machine = 8-9 security personnel (mostly male, 1 female) in total when you return with your catch-of-the-night, so it can be intimidating. She has to sign in with your room number on a log-register placed conveniently at the front desk but this will be while you stand around looking like a happy fool in full view of the 6 or 7 afore-mentioned security personnel. I entertained the thought of switching to the Parklane to avoid this scene altogether, but in the end decided against foregoing the comfort, quality and convenience of the Marriot just to save a few bucks.
8. A side note and just a comment: I caught a bit of the live telecast where the Board of Inquiry was interviewing (inquiring?) a PNP Colonel (the 2nd-in-command?) about the Mendoza incident. It was absolutely atrocious. I did not see or hear anything on this guy's face nor from his words that indicated any sense of responsibility nor integrity nor any sense of wanting to see justice prevail on this matter, even though it was clearly a breakdown in the chain of command and an overall failure of their system to respond to such an 'crisis event'. It was all "Ma'am I was not there", "Sir I did not see", "Ma'am I do not know", in response to some pointed questions by some of the members of the Board. I hope the Chinese government steps in, that's when the shit will really hit the fan. This is the same government that will not hesitate to open fire on its own people in order to restore order.
Just my 2 pesos.
Cheers.
Nice post RB. Sorry you didn't have a better experience in Cebu. I think you are right that the Pinay girls are very racist. Most of the girls I have come across say they are looking for white guys (of course this may well be partly a question of self selection.) The Japs and Korerans do well as they have a reputation as easy money. In my view the commercial scene in Cebu is rather second rate and overpriced compared with other SEA destinations and for me the main attraction is the semi pro scene available through DIA /Tagged. Personally I've never had too much luck in malls, I think my size puts off all but the hardened pros who i am not so interested in.
DIA / Tagged IS hard work and time consuming (unless you have a slice of luck) but CAN be very rewarding. I think as ethnically Chinese you would be at something of a disadvantage as many Pinays have yet to wake up to the fact that Singapore is now richer than Europe. If you decide to return to Cebu send me a PM and Ill be pleased to provide you with some good contacts.
Starchild2012
09-07-10, 12:12
First great idea, thought this would be like Thailand in buying clothes It is hopeless and over priced, (bring your own)
Second great idea, I'll buy a lap top over there and sell before I leave, so surprised at the price they are asking for them (second hand) bring your own.
Third great idea booked a hotel in downtown Mandaue, now spending too much time going to the mulls and back so less opertunity to run back with a conquest still I'll change hotels next week.
Man, Wish you had posted this couple of years ago :) I made all the wrong decisions in buying clothes, buying a laptop and booking a hotel...all three mistakes cost me more than 40,000 pesos..I should have brought clothes from home that does not get worn out in three months and pay double...should have brought a laptop and booked a hotel which looks like a hotel and not pay double the charges..
All newbie mistake...im wiser now hopefully no new trick will be played on me this time :)
Wicked Roger
09-07-10, 16:56
Nice post RB. Sorry you didn't have a better experience in Cebu. I think you are right that the Pinay girls are very racist. Most of the girls I have come across say they are looking for white guys (of course this may well be partly a question of self selection.) The Japs and Korerans do well as they have a reputation as easy money. In my view the commercial scene in Cebu is rather second rate and overpriced compared with other SEA destinations and for me the main attraction is the semi pro scene available through DIA /Tagged. Personally I've never had too much luck in malls, I think my size puts off all but the hardened pros who i am not so interested in.
DIA / Tagged IS hard work and time consuming (unless you have a slice of luck) but CAN be very rewarding.
GL
We may differ on the malls to a degree but maybe it is because I hang around there and drink coffee etc more than others and I smile all the time to cuties. But as for your size....remember we are all the same size lying down, or doggy...:D And I can vouch that you dont put the girls you know off :)
RB, I have seen and known some girls who will not touch anything except westerners (for them it means white guys) mainly as they think the guy is wealthy and from the USA (mainly) as that is where many aspire to live (not surprising given where they currently live), more respectful and not "dirty". The latter word was used by a girl I know a while back to describe a very good friend of mine who is British but is not white...he is more Brirtish than me..but she could get past his colour. Disappointing and I have since dropped that girl from my contacts. Conversely, I know girls who would love to meet you (as could GL) and they dont judge you by what you look like etc, your ethnicity just you are ncie guy albeit horny as hell for slim pinays :D...as GL said you just got a tad unlcuky but dont let it dissuade you from returning to Cebu. I like the city far better than Manila (though I have certain reasons for liking it as well ;))
Nice FRs BTW RB, good to see a new person's perspective on Cebu
I saw the same interview as was widely covered on TV channels here and was funny if it was not so tragic. The big guy trying to explain that even though he went out of town he was still in charge and was doing a good job. Equally the person with the questions could have much tougher as the police chief never showed any remorse. IMHO , just a public 'front' to try and appease HK thats all ...as too many important people cant lose their positions over this so try and find a scapegoat....PI for you IMHO
And DIA, Tagged etc can be great but you need put in the effort and many are not or cannot do so, especially if you are in PI a short time it can be very tough
Stroker Ace88
09-07-10, 18:17
2. Cebu Airport taxi situation has changed. Head across the driveway out front of the Arrivals area, go up the stairs to the metered taxi line adjacent to the entrance to Departures. Drivers are required to put on the meter.
OK good to know, thanks for the info. So are there no more yellow metered taxis as you exit the arrivals level? Does anyone know if it is only local white taxis with standard 30P-2.50P fee structure, or the usual 70P-2.50 metered yellow taxis?
5 There is construction at one or two major intersections along this route now, and they seem to be working late into the night, if not 24 hours.
The old bridge or the new bridge has construction on it and on what side?
GL: As I said in one of my previous posts, I doubt I will return to Cebu for pure P4P, opting instead to bring my own date or gf. Nevertheless, thanks for the kind offer.
WR: What you said is true, except you should see how fanatically clean some of the East Asians (Japanese and Koreans) are. Its ingrained in their culture to be at bathhouses twice a day at least. To me, their main problem is bad breath. Maybe its all that garlic and kimchi.
Allow me to be completely frank in saying this, but IMHO the primary reason why some Pinays, as you said, would not touch anything except white guys, is because of something as simple as wanting to have beautiful mixed children and live the 'model family' life in their husband's home country (US, UK, etc.). The western societies are certainly more 'welcoming' of this than the more conservative eastern societies. These girls know that - they watch TV. There are many Filipino actors/actresses and models who are mixed. These girls know they would 'fare' better bringing up mixed children (considered beautiful and unique) in a western society than they would mixed children in an eastern society, and all hope for that ticket out of the post-apocalyptic (as another ISGer eloquently described it) environment they live in.
Asian societies are all rascist. Sad but true.
OK good to know, thanks for the info. So are there no more yellow metered taxis as you exit the arrivals level? Does anyone know if it is only local white taxis with standard 30P-2.50P fee structure, or the usual 70P-2.50 metered yellow taxis?
The old bridge or the new bridge has construction on it and on what side?
Stroker, I did not see any yellow metered taxis. Everyone who arrived that day was taking local white taxis with the standard 30-2.5 fee structure.
Construction was observed at one or two major intersections along the route as I said in my previous post, not on the bridge. I only used the new bridge for all crossings to/from Mactan.
Wicked Roger
09-08-10, 07:30
Allow me to be completely frank in saying this, but IMHO the primary reason why some Pinays, as you said, would not touch anything except white guys, is because of something as simple as wanting to have beautiful mixed children and live the 'model family' life in their husband's home country (US, UK, etc.).
RB
I had forgot to add that point which is very true. Many FRs here about girls wanting a white baby and their obessision with it. Many mongers I know have been told not to worry about bringing up the child, just get the girl pregnant so the baby is white, maybe blues eyes etc ...I have experienced this a few times and it is a very worrying problem as the Catholic church does enough to overpopulate the country (and the world in some respects) without mongers like us increasing the load.
You should come back Cebu and contact GL or even me, contacts are everything and some of us are happy to share. Or bring the girl but make sure she likes threesomes and is bisexuaul :D That way you get the best of both worlds IMHO :D And we can share as well :)
GregLondon
09-08-10, 07:54
RB
You should come back Cebu and contact GL or even me, contacts are everything and some of us are happy to share. Or bring the girl but make sure she likes threesomes and is bisexuaul :D That way you get the best of both worlds IMHO :D And we can share as well :)
WR is right about contacts. Coincidentally I met a girl a couple of days ago who I think could be of interest to WR. Based 2 hours into provincial Cebu but unusually for a province girl said she had tried and very much enjoyed anal (but only with modestly proportioned guys), spanking, being tied up, MMF and FFM threesomes, collared and unspecified other "naughty" things. Somewhat to my surprise she turned out to have a very nice personality, great ultra petite body (though average face).
Wicked Roger
09-08-10, 08:09
WR is right about contacts. Coincidentally I met a girl a couple of days ago who I think could be of interest to WR. Based 2 hours into provincial Cebu but unusually for a province girl said she had tried and very much enjoyed anal (but only with modestly proportioned guys), spanking, being tied up, MMF and FFM threesomes, collared and unspecified other "naughty" things. Somewhat to my surprise she turned out to have a very nice personality, great ultra petite body (though average face).
GL
Now tell me.... how on earth would I like a girl that?? Am a conservative man :D Did you get her handle, contact number?? Unspecified other naughty things sounds my cup of tea :D
The Rooster1
09-08-10, 09:32
First place, headed to Friday's for an Iced Tea and a meet with two girls. Before I could sit down at a table, two girls asked me to sit with them. I declined as I was minutes from meeting my two girls. It's that easy. Appeared to be Pro's, 6 in looks and 7 in body and maybe later 20's.
Next night hit Lonestar to play some pool and catch up. Very good selection of girls in the bar. 600 peso bf if they know you, I just tipped my standard and all was good.
Hit Blue Angel bar and was completely dead. I just like this bar as its quiet, cheap and good people. 1 year anniversary tonight.
This time I'm back to meeting contacts off of DIA and FH rather then my past rant with the bar girls. Will update... Let me know if anyone is up for a drink.
As I walked out of the Domestic Arrival's area there were 3 metered yellow taxi's waiting there. I just named my price and said take me the fast way and we did. I should learn some Cebuano instead of yapping Tagalog words to them. Might of saved another 20 peso's.
DoingOurDuty
09-08-10, 19:34
Anyone ever stayed at the Alpa City Suites in Cebu? I like saving coin and prefer smaller place to high-rise (Marriot). Looking for girl friendly, in the middle of the action, clean spacious with ac and internet. Prices at Alpa are on sale right now on website for $60, $65, and $70. I'd grin ear to ear to find a place only 80% as nice as this for half the price, is that's possible. Downside here is no pool for relatively high price. Will be in Cebu in Oct.
Update: Hello, to all those who have helped me with my questions in the threads here previously (RK, GL and many others and my apologies to leave out those who have gone out of their way to help). I have my flight booked and continuing to make plans. TIA for any helpful suggestions regarding fave places to stay in Cebu. Have divided my 20 day visit into three parts with time flexibility; Manila/AC, Cebu, Davao in that order. Meeting online gf in Davao to end my trip.
P.S. If there is thread for Cebu Hotels I couldn't find it.
OK good to know, thanks for the info. So are there no more yellow metered taxis as you exit the arrivals level? Does anyone know if it is only local white taxis with standard 30P-2.50P fee structure, or the usual 70P-2.50 metered yellow taxis?
The old bridge or the new bridge has construction on it and on what side?If there are no more yellow airport meter taxi then this is very new as I was in Cebu airport just a few months ago and I was surrounded by--you guessed it, yellow taxis.
FZ
Starchild2012
09-09-10, 09:37
Anyone ever stayed at the Alpa City Suites in Cebu? I like saving coin and prefer smaller place to high-rise (Marriot). Looking for girl friendly, in the middle of the action, clean spacious with ac and internet. Prices at Alpa are on sale right now on website for $60, $65, and $70. I'd grin ear to ear to find a place only 80% as nice as this for half the price, is that's possible. Downside here is no pool for relatively high price. Will be in Cebu in Oct.
Update: Hello, to all those who have helped me with my questions in the threads here previously (RK, GL and many others and my apologies to leave out those who have gone out of their way to help). I have my flight booked and continuing to make plans. TIA for any helpful suggestions regarding fave places to stay in Cebu. Have divided my 20 day visit into three parts with time flexibility; Manila/AC, Cebu, Davao in that order. Meeting online gf in Davao to end my trip.
P.S. If there is thread for Cebu Hotels I couldn't find it.
There are lot of debate on which mid tier hotels are good in Cebu. Last i heard diplomat hotel was good..with a great debate on parklane hotel.
Better go to Agoda and look at the reviews...mostly it will give you an idea what to look for....Cebu is exploding in tourist growth....its high time that we have a separate thread for Cebu Hotels also..
Anyone ever stayed at the Alpa City Suites in Cebu? I like saving coin and prefer smaller place to high-rise (Marriot). Looking for girl friendly, in the middle of the action, clean spacious with ac and internet. Prices at Alpa are on sale right now on website for $60, $65, and $70. I'd grin ear to ear to find a place only 80% as nice as this for half the price, is that's possible. Downside here is no pool for relatively high price. Will be in Cebu in Oct.
Update: Hello, to all those who have helped me with my questions in the threads here previously (RK, GL and many others and my apologies to leave out those who have gone out of their way to help). I have my flight booked and continuing to make plans. TIA for any helpful suggestions regarding fave places to stay in Cebu. Have divided my 20 day visit into three parts with time flexibility; Manila/AC, Cebu, Davao in that order. Meeting online gf in Davao to end my trip.
P.S. If there is thread for Cebu Hotels I couldn't find it.I have stayed at Alpha Suites and recommend the hotel. It is new and the rooms are excellent. Will be staying there for a couple of days back end of September. And yes - it is girl friendly.
Wicked Roger
09-09-10, 10:40
There are lot of debate on which mid tier hotels are good in Cebu. Last i heard diplomat hotel was good..with a great debate on parklane hotel.
Better go to Agoda and look at the reviews...mostly it will give you an idea what to look for....Cebu is exploding in tourist growth....its high time that we have a separate thread for Cebu Hotels also..
I get the best rates recently via www.hotels.com In past I have used agoda, hoteltravel, asianrooms, expedia etc and the former is cheaper in comparison
Depends on budget as always and for me access to good steady wifi (and free preferably)
Mongrinastrlnd
09-09-10, 11:32
Anyone ever stayed at the Alpa City Suites in Cebu? I like saving coin and prefer smaller place to high-rise (Marriot). Looking for girl friendly, in the middle of the action, clean spacious with ac and internet. Prices at Alpa are on sale right now on website for $60, $65, and $70. I'd grin ear to ear to find a place only 80% as nice as this for half the price, is that's possible. Downside here is no pool for relatively high price. Will be in Cebu in Oct.I will be staying at Alpa City Suites in a couple weeks (9.20-22) so will have an answer for you towards the end of the month. Be aware that its a bit off the general mongering circuit and is actually just over the border with Mandaue City.
Finally got Air Phil Express back flying in Mindanao and I get to return to Cebu after 6 months:(
I arrive today for four days. If any members are in town and want to bar hop please PM me.
Robb
Just a comment on taxi's at the airport guys. DO NOT get a taxi from the ground level when you come out of the Cebu airport, walk across the street, go up the steps to the top and wait in line for the regular taxi's. Make sure the little weasel turns on the meter, A run to parklane, near Ayala should cost in the 135 to 150 range.
Those guys at ground level charge you 350, they even pull that crap on a local like me. HAH
Spamhog
Stroker Ace88
09-10-10, 03:45
If there are no more yellow airport meter taxi then this is very new as I was in Cebu airport just a few months ago and I was surrounded by--you guessed it, yellow taxis.
FZ
Arrived Cebu 8am thursday and plenty of yellow metered taxis as usual, with only the one small intersection on the Mandaue side of the bridge which still has on-going construction from my previous visit two months ago. No worries there because it was a holiday and no traffic I am sure with another hoiliday tomorrow. It's not really construction, just some orange cones and an old truck lol. Also the yellow metered taxis are 70p-4p which is a bit expensive but I just get in a go as I feel lazy after a few long flights, I think it was 270P to Fuente Osmenia and Spam Hog has provided good info to go up to the arrivals level to grab a local taxi but for an extra 100P the laziness factor kicks in for me.
Met a fugly virgin FH contact at SM for lunch. I had met her last trip and she was "too shy" to go to my hotel so I made up a story and walked away from her. When I was back home she promised me in chat she would stay the afternoon with me in my room provided she was still a virgin when she left. I agreeded and so we met once more. She backed out on her promises again to come to my hotel room and I left the fugly girl at the SM taxi stand. Waste of time but her promises of fun in the room lured me back. This kind of thing happens when you meet girls from the dating websites and you get alot of promises and you have to weed out the pretenders from the keepers. Can't win them all.
I then went to get a massage on F. Ramos to relax after a few long flights and I was off to the hotel to sleep for a few hours before my next scheduled meeting. I met another cute and very thin chatmate at SM around 8pm and she brought her workmate to meet me. They were both giggling and having fun with my "gwaponess" and thoughts of a three-some filled my heads. (Yes plural- HEADS because I was thinking alot with my little head as much as the big one) lol.
I took the workmates mobile number and she seems like a good prospect for future fun and I gave her some Pesos for a taxi and sent her home with a kiss and I took the cute chatmate back to my hotel. She was super shy and no matter what I tried I could tell no action for me. We hugged and kisses and I will see her again tomorrow, so sent her off in a taxi with some Pesos to cover the fare and put her on the back burner. Very often these girls will not give you anything on the first date, they want to seem like proper women and so they wait until the next day to give it up. Not too concerned as I have several stunners lined up the next several weeks.
I made a stop at Silver Dollar and I am glad to see the place is back under full power with a good assortment of girls and the two stage setup back in action. Joked with some of the BG's that knew me over a few drinks and they complained not enough customers to go around and things were slow.
Just a question out of the blue, but does anyone know a doctor-pharmacist in Cebu City that can write prescriptions without too many headches or large fees. Last time I asked the pharmacist at Mercury drugs on Fuente Osmenia and she told me no meds with doctors note.
The Rooster1
09-10-10, 05:42
Arrived Cebu 8am thursday and plenty of yellow metered taxis as usual, with only the one small intersection on the Mandaue side of the bridge which still has on-going construction from my previous visit two months ago. No worries there because it was a holiday and no traffic I am sure with another hoiliday tomorrow. It's not really construction, just some orange cones and an old truck lol. Also the yellow metered taxis are 70p-4p which is a bit expensive but I just get in a go as I feel lazy after a few long flights, I think it was 270P to Fuente Osmenia and Spam Hog has provided good info to go up to the arrivals level to grab a local taxi but for an extra 100P the laziness factor kicks in for me.
Met a fugly virgin FH contact at SM for lunch. I had met her last trip and she was "too shy" to go to my hotel so I made up a story and walked away from her. When I was back home she promised me in chat she would stay the afternoon with me in my room provided she was still a virgin when she left. I agreeded and so we met once more. She backed out on her promises again to come to my hotel room and I left the fugly girl at the SM taxi stand. Waste of time but her promises of fun in the room lured me back. This kind of thing happens when you meet girls from the dating websites and you get alot of promises and you have to weed out the pretenders from the keepers. Can't win them all.
I then went to get a massage on F. Ramos to relax after a few long flights and I was off to the hotel to sleep for a few hours before my next scheduled meeting. I met another cute and very thin chatmate at SM around 8pm and she brought her workmate to meet me. They were both giggling and having fun with my "gwaponess" and thoughts of a three-some filled my heads. (Yes plural- HEADS because I was thinking alot with my little head as much as the big one) lol.
I took the workmates mobile number and she seems like a good prospect for future fun and I gave her some Pesos for a taxi and sent her home with a kiss and I took the cute chatmate back to my hotel. She was super shy and no matter what I tried I could tell no action for me. We hugged and kisses and I will see her again tomorrow, so sent her off in a taxi with some Pesos to cover the fare and put her on the back burner. Very often these girls will not give you anything on the first date, they want to seem like proper women and so they wait until the next day to give it up. Not too concerned as I have several stunners lined up the next several weeks.
I made a stop at Silver Dollar and I am glad to see the place is back under full power with a good assortment of girls and the two stage setup back in action. Joked with some of the BG's that knew me over a few drinks and they complained not enough customers to go around and things were slow.
Just a question out of the blue, but does anyone know a doctor-pharmacist in Cebu City that can write prescriptions without too many headches or large fees. Last time I asked the pharmacist at Mercury drugs on Fuente Osmenia and she told me no meds with doctors note.
Pm me and tell me what you need. Not that Im a pharmasist, or a pusher, but I was recently crippled for a few months and needed the same help.
Thanks for the update on SD. Have been just meeting contacts and no bar action, but will go take a look today. I heard it wasn't the same and not nice.
The Rooster1
09-10-10, 05:45
Just a comment on taxi's at the airport guys. DO NOT get a taxi from the ground level when you come out of the Cebu airport, walk across the street, go up the steps to the top and wait in line for the regular taxi's. Make sure the little weasel turns on the meter, A run to parklane, near Ayala should cost in the 135 to 150 range.
Those guys at ground level charge you 350, they even pull that crap on a local like me. HAH
Spamhog
I agree 100% with Spamhog and that is what I usually do and have reported that here before. As to my last post, I had no choice because I couldn't walk up the stairs this time and I ended up paying about 75 more peso's. I just had one less sml that night..
Starchild2012
09-10-10, 06:27
Just a question out of the blue, but does anyone know a doctor-pharmacist in Cebu City that can write prescriptions without too many headches or large fees. Last time I asked the pharmacist at Mercury drugs on Fuente Osmenia and she told me no meds with doctors note.
Just make up a story and play dumb foreigner when she ask for prescription.
I had UTI :) and i went straight to Mercury drug and ask for the meds, if they ask for prescription..tell them you forgot and will bring it next time. If you are rejected in any case try another drug store...most of them will give you meds without prescription..no worries...enjoy your stay in Cebu...waiting for great reports :)
At the bottom of any page, there is the CONTACT US page. That is how I created the CHAT forum on ISG Philippines.
Just ask politely and the master of ISG might agree.
X
There are lot of debate on which mid tier hotels are good in Cebu. Last i heard diplomat hotel was good..with a great debate on parklane hotel.
Better go to Agoda and look at the reviews...mostly it will give you an idea what to look for....Cebu is exploding in tourist growth....its high time that we have a separate thread for Cebu Hotels also..
I agree 100% with Spamhog and that is what I usually do and have reported that here before. As to my last post, I had no choice because I couldn't walk up the stairs this time and I ended up paying about 75 more peso's. I just had one less sml that night..
They quoted me a fixed rate of 395 pesos to the Marriott.
DoingOurDuty
09-10-10, 22:45
I have stayed at Alpha Suites and recommend the hotel. It is new and the rooms are excellent. Will be staying there for a couple of days back end of September. And yes - it is girl friendly.Thank you Python and Starchild. When I asked the question I had already been impressed by the online pictures and reviews. Something I forgot to ask pertains to how this hotel is located in terms of walking distance from some of the action (Malls and Clubs)? Someone previously had suggested I stay in central Cebu City (and the Alpa is very nearby in Mandaue).comments about the best area(s) to stay in or around Cebu are welcomed in addition to any specific hotel recommendations. The only thing the Alpa lacks is a swimming pool and perhaps an even lower nightly rate. Will probably book with the Alpa but will see if I receive any other suggests here first. TIA for anything additional anyone can add.
Starchild2012
09-11-10, 04:32
At the bottom of any page, there is the CONTACT US page. That is how I created the CHAT forum on ISG Philippines.
Just ask politely and the master of ISG might agree.
X
Good idea will do it right away :)
Just ask politely and the master of ISG might agree.
Tried that weeks ago and it fell on deaf ears! :confused:
I like Blue Angels, but I find the talent hit and miss...mostly miss. Stripes...best to experience it yourself, but I've gotten bad vibes both times I went there.what are the bad vibes you are referring to when you speak of Stripes? Can you elaborate. I am getting mixed reviews on this place.
Hug Monster
09-11-10, 12:39
On Sept. 30 I will arrive in Cebu for the first time and it will be my first time to Phils. If I am looking for a Real GF, or a Wife, how can I avoid having a disappointing trip, as I will be there for about 24 days? This will be the first of many trips, unless I move to the Phils. I might go to a few go go bars, but from what I have read on this forum, I think that I will be happier meeting some non pros who work in a shop or somewhere like that. Or maybe I will try to hire a cute tour-guide and get lucky enough to hook up with her. Also, how safe are the in-room safes at most hotels?
Thank You,
HM
Member #4351
09-11-10, 15:45
The gringo owner at the bar sends off not too friendly vibes and some of the chicas didn´t seem to be too happy when I was there. Its only a couple of blocks away from Blue Angels, so you can walk it easily. Blue Angels friendlier people..maybe less cute girls IMHO.
DoingOurDuty
09-12-10, 00:18
I will be staying at Alpa City Suites in a couple weeks (9.20-22) so will have an answer for you towards the end of the month. Be aware that its a bit off the general mongering circuit and is actually just over the border with Mandaue City.Thanks for your travel update; looking forward to hearing how the alpa works out for you. I was hoping to just walk from hotel to the action; but short taxi ride would be acceptable. Still looking for inexpensive hot in central with pool otherwise will book at the alpa.
On Sept. 30 I will arrive in Cebu for the first time and it will be my first time to Phils. If I am looking for a Real GF, or a Wife, how can I avoid having a disappointing trip, as I will be there for about 24 days? This will be the first of many trips, unless I move to the Phils. I might go to a few go go bars, but from what I have read on this forum, I think that I will be happier meeting some non pros who work in a shop or somewhere like that. Or maybe I will try to hire a cute tour-guide and get lucky enough to hook up with her. Also, how safe are the in-room safes at most hotels?
Thank You,
HMI'm in the feunte pension house a bit dated but cheap and sitting here looking at a guy in whee chair so access not a problem,
I would also try and hit fillipino bride, cherry blossom heavy, or could ask the guys if they might have a recommendation.
GregLondon
09-12-10, 02:04
On Sept. 30 I will arrive in Cebu for the first time and it will be my first time to Phils. If I am looking for a Real GF, or a Wife, how can I avoid having a disappointing trip, as I will be there for about 24 days? This will be the first of many trips, unless I move to the Phils. I might go to a few go go bars, but from what I have read on this forum, I think that I will be happier meeting some non pros who work in a shop or somewhere like that. Or maybe I will try to hire a cute tour-guide and get lucky enough to hook up with her. Also, how safe are the in-room safes at most hotels?
Thank You,
HM
Having had about $400 of cash pilfered from the hotel Safe at The Mango Park and being treated with thinly disguised contempt by the owner and his family when I complained, my answer to the safety in safes question is "not very". Obviously it depends on the setup in the individual hotel. In room safes should be OK re overnight guests and cleaning staff. But if you deposit with the front desk make sure they have some sort of system for verifying what you have put in etc. The Mango Park just had 4 number pad individual boxes behind the reception area. Many of the staff will know the default code to get into these boxes and if noone is around late at night are free to open them and help theirselves, particularly as at the mango Park there is no web cam overlooking the safety boxes to check who may have been pilfering them. If the hotel has no system to verify how much you put in, they are very unlikely to pay up if you report a loss. They are buddies with the police/barrangay captain so will just pay a small bribe to get whatever report they want. Somewhat insanely Mango Park refuses to accept my suggestion of installing a web cam to monitor the safes, which is I think standard practice at most hotels.
Re Girls. I agree Gogo bars would be a lousy place to look for a wife. Shop girls etc may also not suit your purpose as girls with real jobs are working 10 hours a day 6 days a week, so have limited time to take care of you except for a date on their day off.
Fortunately Cebu is stuffed full of girls who are unemployed or theoretically students but on hold because of their financial problems. Who would probably be more than willing to take care of you in return for food accommodation and an allowance. our best bet is to find one reasonably open minded about you seeing other girls, inviting her friends, going to the gogo etc.
i do have one girl in mind who I suspect would be a good choice for you. 20, cute, no kids, medium build, high school grad, friendly, reasonable English, good in bed. I'll PM her details if I can
GregLondon
09-12-10, 02:15
I cant PM you as you are a regular member.
If you are planning to spend $1000s of dollars flying to and from Phils you would prob find the $20 annual membership to ISG which allows you to get and receive PMs a good investment
Hug Monster
09-12-10, 03:40
I cant PM you as you are a regular member.
If you are planning to spend $1000s of dollars flying to and from Phils you would prob find the $20 annual membership to ISG which allows you to get and receive PMs a good investmentGreg, are you sure about that? I can "Get" and "Receive" PM's? What about if I want to "Send" a PM, will there be an additional fee? Dear Mr. London, I know what you were trying to say and I just wanted to THANK YOU for your input. I will become a paying member this week. HM.
On Sept. 30 I will arrive in Cebu for the first time and it will be my first time to Phils. If I am looking for a Real GF, or a Wife, how can I avoid having a disappointing trip, as I will be there for about 24 days? This will be the first of many trips, unless I move to the Phils. I might go to a few go go bars, but from what I have read on this forum, I think that I will be happier meeting some non pros who work in a shop or somewhere like that. Or maybe I will try to hire a cute tour-guide and get lucky enough to hook up with her. Also, how safe are the in-room safes at most hotels?
Thank You,
HM
If you are looking for GF or wife material what you are proposing is hit or miss. You can usually get phone numbers and dates with "regular" girls, but you just have to go through the weeding out process which can be time consuming. Best way is for you to be introduced to a "regular" that
can be vouched for.
I would be careful of what I put in the safes, best not to have too much cash, use an ATM card with your bank back home or get cash advance through credit card. Travlers checks are worthless.
You can PM me further since yours is blocked.
Spamhog
On Sept. 30 I will arrive in Cebu for the first time and it will be my first time to Phils. If I am looking for a Real GF, or a Wife, how can I avoid having a disappointing trip, as I will be there for about 24 days? This will be the first of many trips, unless I move to the Phils. I might go to a few go go bars, but from what I have read on this forum, I think that I will be happier meeting some non pros who work in a shop or somewhere like that. Or maybe I will try to hire a cute tour-guide and get lucky enough to hook up with her. Also, how safe are the in-room safes at most hotels?
Thank You,
HMUnless you have another special hide out to keep your valuables you are going to have to use the in-room safe. if you are concerned about safety stay at more established hotels like Marriott that have a lower chance of you having your stuff stolen. Real professional crew at the Marriott hotel, tight security but very GF friendly.
If you are looking for a real relationship, I suggest you start pre-work before coming; using dating sites like cherry blossoms, filipina heart to chat up some ladies to get to know them. If you wait to come here it will be hit or miss to find a good girl. You will find more "players" & "professional hustlers" ;)
Think of it if you meet a girl for the first time at a mall and she is ready to sleep with you in a couple of hours IMHO that is not GF material or one you will be able to trust when you leave the country and go home.
Went to Sisters GoGo Bar on Mango Avenue last night. Here's a few of my observations.
Cons
- Barfine 800 pesos
- Lady drinks 200 pesos
- Waitress every 15 minutes or so wants to ask if you want to buy lady drinks
- 1 gay Asian guy, i guess who works at Sisters, goes around sometimes dancing, trying to be funny, and maybe find a closeted boyfriend but i am not sure of his role at the bar.
- weak stage performances by the girls
Pros
- Next to other bars so you can hop around between bars
- Many girls not so many guys so about 5 girls to 1 guy (a bit overwhelming though)
- Small bar but adequate sitting
- LT with a girl 1000 pesos - girl stayed till 1:30 PM next day. she would have stayed longer if I asked but I know part of it is do to chemistry so probably not your typical exprience
- Girls in Sisters generally have great attitudes and really are fun
- Not so many long-term, hardcore Bar Girls a lot had just worked less than a year
- No entrance fee
- Good atmosphere
- Girls 6 - 8 in looks IMHO
- Taxi access easy even at 2AM in the morning
- Closes at 3:30 AM
Would I go again if I had the chance? Yes
Would I recommend the establishment to friends? Yes
Really there is nothing to lose to check it out since it is literally besides other bars so you can hop around until you find your favorite.
WestCoast1
09-12-10, 15:18
Went to Sisters GoGo Bar on Mango Avenue last night. Here's a few of my observations.
Cons
Barfine 800 pesosConcur, except 800 pesos? Did you mean 1800? Recently they charged me 1700.
Will be visiting Cebu City with wife, staying at her familys house, any suggestions on how to get some short time action?
Stroker Ace88
09-13-10, 01:16
Just make up a story and play dumb foreigner when she ask for prescription.
I had UTI :) and i went straight to Mercury drug and ask for the meds, if they ask for prescription..tell them you forgot and will bring it next time. If you are rejected in any case try another drug store...most of them will give you meds without prescription..no worries...enjoy your stay in Cebu...waiting for great reports :)
Starchild2012,
Thanks for the tip, it worked like a charm. I went back yesterday to Mercury Drugs on Fuente Osmena and the older gentlemen took my order no problem and only asked me if I knew the generic name of one of the meds. I wrote down the names of the meds and just handed the paper to him and he just took the order.
The Rooster1,
The meds are just standard Anti-Biotics, Suprax and Azithromycin. I like to self medicate if I have any concerns about a certain partner.
Will be visiting Cebu City with wife, staying at her familys house, any suggestions on how to get some short time action?
It's not rocket science Stealth
Go to ANY bar. (RTFF for names of bars; suggest Mango Ave)
Meet girl; arrange for short-time.
Go to S/T hotel (Queensland Lodge is OK)
Finish deed, clean up.
Go back home.
Sir Van Koff
09-13-10, 07:26
This is Night 4 of my first PI trip. On arriving I had a hot DIA friend pick me up in her own car and take me to Cebu tops for a lovely starlit dinner. Went to Julianas at 2am after she left. Found a 5 foot pocket rocket Miss A who warmed my bed till mid-day for a princely sum of 1000 pesos :D Days 2 and 3 were spent shacked up with another DIA friend in a lovely resort in Bohol. Saw all the sights and bought the t-shirt. No details on DIA girls here as they're upwardly mobile professionals with an excellent social standing.
Hot Rods
Rocked up at 10 am - empty, 1 old white guy and 1 young korean. I was mobbed and interrogated by 6 girls and one very flirty super cute waitress. Bought beers and 2 LD's (60 and 150 pesos each). Barfined (1800 pesos) Miss J No. 86 - a 21 yr old hottie No.86. HR has a 4 LD minimum, so I bought 2 more, one of which I had myself with Miss J (tequila).
Miss J is actually 25yrs according to her passport and has been working in Singapore!! Liar!
Took her to Julianas for a drink or two. She ended up on the stage 'sexy dancing'. Next she dragged me to some Pinoy place called Third Planet. Bad idea. Didn't like it and I suggested we go back to her hotel. "But I want to talk to my brother, he work here". Yeah right! You can meet your brother in your own time, not mine :D Took a cab back to the hotel.
Miss was all over me, stripped down, grinding her tight petite frame and sticking her tongue down my throat. That was the first 5 minutes. Things went downhill from there. Found her moping on the bed when I returned from the loo. "I have to go back at 2 ..... I want to go back at 2:30...... my parents don't know I'm doing this job.... tears (awww she was looking so cute)" I sat down and explained the deal. I said I will take her back to HR right away and get a different girl, thanks for wasting my time. More tears (awww poor baby!, cradled her in my arms and ended with a super hard-on) "Is 5am ok? If you take me back to bar I will lose my job". That was it! No more time wasting. Fired up my laptop, looked up Hot rods number, called, spoke with mamasan, who then spoke to girl and disconnected. Left the hotel and we went our separate ways. I went back to HR and spoke to mamasan Tina. She said you should've confirmed the details with the girl before taking her out (I did, but didn't want to start an argument with a 240 Lb mamasan who looked like a man!). She offered me any of her other girls and suggested Miss V. 5/10 on looks, but excellent service. Will leave out the boring details. It's 2pm now and she's just left with a 200 peso tip.
On a positive note, I am now texting Super Cute Waitress who slipped me her number last night.
Sir Van Koff
09-13-10, 07:39
Got 2 boxes (2 pills each) of Cialis (real deal, Eli Lilly, hologram, sealed box) and 2 boxes of Zithromax (antibiotic) at the Ayala supermarket pharmacy on Level 1. Also got some aspirin, band aids etc, just so I could see the cute pharmacists panty lines through her little white super tight dress.
Cialis is 750 peso per pill, 1500 peso per box, 3000 peso for 2 boxes (for those bad at math). This is about the same as 2400 Baht that pharmacies in Bangkok charge for a 4 pill box.
Gogobarlover
09-13-10, 11:24
Went to Sisters GoGo Bar on Mango Avenue last night. Here's a few of my observations.
Cons
- Barfine 800 pesos
- Lady drinks 200 pesos
- Waitress every 15 minutes or so wants to ask if you want to buy lady drinks
- 1 gay Asian guy, i guess who works at Sisters, goes around sometimes dancing, trying to be funny, and maybe find a closeted boyfriend but i am not sure of his role at the bar.
- weak stage performances by the girls
Pros
- Next to other bars so you can hop around between bars
- Many girls not so many guys so about 5 girls to 1 guy (a bit overwhelming though)
- Small bar but adequate sitting
- LT with a girl 1000 pesos - girl stayed till 1:30 PM next day. she would have stayed longer if I asked but I know part of it is do to chemistry so probably not your typical exprience
- Girls in Sisters generally have great attitudes and really are fun
- Not so many long-term, hardcore Bar Girls a lot had just worked less than a year
- No entrance fee
- Good atmosphere
- Girls 6 - 8 in looks IMHO
- Taxi access easy even at 2AM in the morning
- Closes at 3:30 AM
Would I go again if I had the chance? Yes
Would I recommend the establishment to friends? Yes
Really there is nothing to lose to check it out since it is literally besides other bars so you can hop around until you find your favorite.
I wouldn't say 800 pesos BF is a con. That's a Pro actually. 800 pesos, BF in Cebu is cheap as generally a BF ranges from 1700 pesos(Vikings, BG and Erik the Reds) all the way up to 6000 pesos(Club Arena)
The ladies drinks at 200 pesos, they are overcharging you at sisters. I notice that Sisters charges a little more than Vikings, BGs and Erik the Red. I guess because Sisters is different owner than that of the other bars. The ladies drinks they quoted me 160 pesos. The other bars like Vikings, BGs and Erik the Red was 150 pesos.
There are several girls in Sisters bar that don't mind doing a threesome.
The thing about these gogo bars, some of these places will make up their own prices and may charge you a little more on the drinks and BF then other places. They feel that an extra 100 pesos is not a big deal to us foreigners and that we can easily pay for it. Also, if they see you for the first time, they will try and take advantage by quoting a higher price and think that you'll not pick up on it.
GregLondon
09-13-10, 15:52
A month ago I mentioned an overweight girl I codenamed KJ who had an emergency caesarian and a premature 1.5kg baby. Both mother and baby survived and the baby is doing as well as can be expected.
Unfortunately the family had to pawn all their valuables and use all their savings to pay the hospital bills and face something of a financial emergency as the pawn tickets expire next week and the electricity and gas bills come due and the baby has needed some medicine etc etc.
Desperate times call for desperate measures. Unfortunately the mum is rather fat and not so attractive (apart from big boobs) so her 18 year old sister has been drafted into action to try and raise funds.
I've not met this girl yet but am told she is medium sized, with big boobs, attractive but a tanned complexion, her English is not too good (but big sis , who is 20, is very fluent as she had almost completed her degree). Shes had a Pinoy BF before but as of today no foreigners. I plan to meet her tomorrow and will take some pics and probably try her.
If you are in Cebu and potentially interested to "help out" PM me. Obviously if you are someone who is prepared to err on the side of generosity re payments that would be much appreciated by the family.
I plan to meet her tomorrow and will take some pics and probably try her.
There is nothing like your friends making shore the quality of the merchandise is up to standard.(nice one)
I booked last weekend in the Waterfront Hotel (Airport). It was my first time booking here and the only reason I booked here was due too being in Cebu with six of my friends and they choose this hotel.
Overall the hotel is nice, not great, but nice. Staff was good, room was not in good shape, water pressure will push you out of shower. Internet is 600P per day:(
The reason I am posting this: When I went to check out yesterday and as I was waiting for housekeeping to check the room (btw I hate this in the Philippines) and I knew that I had no additional charges. After 10 minutes I ask if I am good and the desk clerk told me no sir, you owe 800P. I was told her that I paid cash for everything during my stay and she told me that because I took two girls home Saturday night, that I had to pay a joiner fee :eek:
I just laughed at her and told her that I was not paying a joiner fee and if I was required to pay a joiner fee for a third person, I should of been told when I signed her in.
Robb
Went to Sisters GoGo Bar on Mango Avenue last night. Here's a few of my observations.
I have not visited Cebu for 5 months and this weekend visited 10 bars and Sisters was by far the most improved bar. They have knocked out a wall, added chairs and couches and now they have (I counted) 25 girls.
A friend and I were the only ones in the bar Sunday night and we had tabled two girls. My friends girl took one sip of her LD and said she had to dance:( I asked who was in charge and the owner came over. She is a sexy mama-san/owner and I asked her why the girl was required to dance while she had a customer? She told me that is the way it works in Cebu. I laughed and I asked her if it made sense to have a girl, who was making money for the bar and herself by drinking LD's get up and dance when she had 20 other girls sitting around doing nothing and not making her any money. She looked at me like I was crazy and then I said why do the girls dance?? She did not have an answer. I told her to me the girl dances so the customers can call them down and if she already has a customer and another customer sees her on stage and calls her down, where does she go?
She told me that she had been in the bar business six years and that is the first time that she had heard that, but it makes sense and she was going to change that now.
Robb
I wouldn't say 800 pesos BF is a con. That's a Pro actually. 800 pesos, BF in Cebu is cheap as generally a BF ranges from 1700 pesos(Vikings, BG and Erik the Reds) all the way up to 6000 pesos(Club Arena)
Pussycat's bar fine is now 3000P:(
Robb
Gogobarlover
09-14-10, 00:07
I have not visited Cebu for 5 months and this weekend visited 10 bars and Sisters was by far the most improved bar. They have knocked out a wall, added chairs and couches and now they have (I counted) 25 girls.
A friend and I were the only ones in the bar Sunday night and we had tabled two girls. My friends girl took one sip of her LD and said she had to dance:( I asked who was in charge and the owner came over. She is a sexy mama-san/owner and I asked her why the girl was required to dance while she had a customer? She told me that is the way it works in Cebu. I laughed and I asked her if it made sense to have a girl, who was making money for the bar and herself by drinking LD's get up and dance when she had 20 other girls sitting around doing nothing and not making her any money. She looked at me like I was crazy and then I said why do the girls dance?? She did not have an answer. I told her to me the girl dances so the customers can call them down and if she already has a customer and another customer sees her on stage and calls her down, where does she go?
She told me that she had been in the bar business six years and that is the first time that she had heard that, but it makes sense and she was going to change that now.
Robb
On my last trip in May of 2010 I was just there when Sister bar went under renovation. The mama and the girls told me that it will go under renovation the next day and be closed for several days. That place before it being renovated was just too small.
I was getting rejected by these other bars on the Mango Avenue that it pissed me off. I then went into Sisters and was greeted by the girls in there. I felt better by the attention that I treated everyone in there drinks. I didn't care. I was just happy they gave me attention LoL. I spent over 3000+ on just drinks alone. Haha. I had a good time with all of them though as I was in there by myself. It's hard when you're a filipino and these bars including the girls see you as an undercover LE or just a typical pinoy who has no money.
Member #4351
09-14-10, 00:10
Robbaf, your Sister´s post is hilarious. I can imagine the look on the Mamasan`s face as the logic sank in.
FreebieFan
09-14-10, 00:36
I have not visited Cebu for 5 months and this weekend visited 10 bars and Sisters was by far the most improved bar. They have knocked out a wall, added chairs and couches and now they have (I counted) 25 girls.
A friend and I were the only ones in the bar Sunday night and we had tabled two girls. My friends girl took one sip of her LD and said she had to dance:( I asked who was in charge and the owner came over. She is a sexy mama-san/owner and I asked her why the girl was required to dance while she had a customer? She told me that is the way it works in Cebu. I laughed and I asked her if it made sense to have a girl, who was making money for the bar and herself by drinking LD's get up and dance when she had 20 other girls sitting around doing nothing and not making her any money. She looked at me like I was crazy and then I said why do the girls dance?? She did not have an answer. I told her to me the girl dances so the customers can call them down and if she already has a customer and another customer sees her on stage and calls her down, where does she go?
She told me that she had been in the bar business six years and that is the first time that she had heard that, but it makes sense and she was going to change that now.
RobbAnd yet sadly the Sisters model is the Bangkok model.
As all readers will know, you get a dancing girl for a drink and usually less than 3 songs later, she's up on stage again. Always seemed strange to me.
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