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Mattrick, how would you know how many times I've visited Cebu City? What I wrote is the absolute truth as of approximately one month ago when I spent 5 out of 8 nights walking the area at different times of the day and night. I think you should know I'm not the type to make things up. But whatever, believe you want, I don't give a fuck.Guys there are dozens of cheap boarding houses in and around Jonquera and Colon Street. Many girls in the boarding houses are part time or professional hookers, usually catering for the local market. I have been approached by pimps myself and led to boarding houses on three or four occasions. I like to go out of curiousity more than anything and the times that I went were afternoons. I never took a girl as I was always disappointed and also the fact that many of them had to be woken up even though it was afternoon and looked a bit dishevelled.
I have seen lots of street walkers around Colon Street late at night, including blocks north and south of the street itself, they are abundant particularly after 10pm.
As for the posts enquiring about street walkers in Lapu Lapu I actually posted on this subject when I was staying in Lapu Lapu in 2009 and I have cut and pasted the relevant part of my post here.
"Nothing much to report on further dear mongers, however I have done some local research to find out a bit more about the local red light district on Mactan. The place that I mentioned in my earlier post, the Lapu Lapu equivalent of Jonquera is a place called Tapsilog. The area shares the same name as a local culinary dish and is where the casa and bar girls go at night if they have not managed to hook a customer. The place also has street walkers and local freelancers. Sadly this is my last night here and I fly out in the early hours otherwise I would have been delighted to post a field report. Certainly worth a visit if you find yourself here on Mactan with an evening spare, even for the curiosity value alone. Would be great if one of you guys get the chance to visit this place and post a field report."
I suggest 'poster' go see for yourself. I'm not exaggerating one bit, what reason would I have to do that? Just because you haven't had the same experience doesn't mean I have not. Feel free to read ANY of my previous posts and ascertain whether I'm the type to make things up or not. Either way, I don't care, I know what I saw.Good luck to you Tom Cruise, and your Gaisano Metro experience.
Temper your posts to more realistic levels and they might start to look believable.
Don't make it look so easy, so great, that guys go teeming there expecting Nirvana.
Of course there are girls there, but not the way you colourfully describe it. Yeh, and students of sex might be there too, but not students per se. If they are studying then, maybe 25% at best of their time, other 75% selling themselves. I don't call that students as we know them.
Of course there are girls living in little dumpy rooms in that area and many other areas, but I would not call them boarding houses, which to me means lots of girls in one area. They are not boarding houses, they are part of a regular house, and usually only for girls, cause guys cause too much trouble. Don't think your going to step into a compound and find girls leaning out the window calling out to you. Are you going to call at someones house and ask the girls boarding there to come outside so you can inspect them? Its not that scene at all.
And by the way latest rumour is Jonquerra is being destroyed. Houses in that area already demolished and all are to go, be torn down, within 6 to 12 months. Girls numbers there very much down as a result of the new Barangay Captain who does not like prostitution. Jonquerra as we know it, is to be destroyed, according to the info fed to me by Filipinos. Apparently the majority of girls that were there have dispersed to other areas or provinces. Easily proved one way or another by someone going to Jakosalem entrance. So far I classify the information as rumour only, but its coming from a resident of Jonquerra and another who depends on Jonquerra for a livelihood, so good chance it is true.
People who colour up the downtown scene are misleading people. Regular Filipino people do not step into that area late at night. It's the place where folks get murdered too often.
I know you, the person who will respond to that statement, you have been walking around there forever and nothing has ever happened to you, but it does happen. Why rummage around the bottom of a trash can when you can better, safer, elsewhere? It's all on this Forum, do something for yourself and find it.
And I reserve the right to jump on anyone who I consider is talking hype. I have got my say and you have got yours. People who actually follow up your advice are free to write in and tells us what they actually experience.
From your Gaisano Metro experience, all I can say is you must be Tom Cruise. Why travel to Philippines you should be able to get plenty back home and free, LOL.
i suggest 'poster' go see for yourself. i'm not exaggerating one bit, what reason would i have to do that? just because you haven't had the same experience doesn't mean i have not. feel free to read any of my previous posts and ascertain whether i'm the type to make things up or not. either way, i don't care, i know what i saw.with a little bit more time to think about it, your report about many girls on the corners downtown and pimps taking you to 'boarding houses' might have a touch of truth in it because of the tearing down of jonquerra and the dispersal of girls there, if info i have from filipinos is correct about tearing down of jonquerra.
so a new scene might be developing where the girls are rep001tered all over downtown and pimps are standing nearby to get their exhorbitant cut. and pimps might walk you to where a pay4play girl is sleeping, yes it is possible. but do you want to walk around a seedy area with a person who lives off prostitution, and who you have never met before? what if the pimp decides its easier to lead you to his or hers buddies in a darkened area and rob you?
but i repeat to all newbies reading the glowing reports from tom cruise and others, downtown is not a safe area late at night. no sensible filipino will be seen there late at night, and yes you the one who is about to retort, you have had no trouble there for a very long time. doesn't mean the place is safe, and newbies reading this stuff from afar including iceland, wherever, should be told so.
facts not fantasy is what we are looking for on isg.
it was your gaisano metro experience that killed the rest of your report.
let's see how many more get the tom cruise experience at gaisano metro, lol.
In anticipation of more enemy fire I say.
Tom, enough.
I am quite sure after my scolding of you, your future reports will be somewhere near the truth of the matter and therefore I will have helped the inexperienced avoid being misled and catching a plane from Iceland wherever to Colon Street and those places you so colourfully described.
Regardless of what is posted after this one of mine, I'll go back to lurking, until the next hype report.
Mr Moderator, and Tom, rest easy, last from me, on this subject.
But I repeat to all newbies reading the glowing reports from Tom Cruise and others, downtown is not a safe area late at night. No sensible Filipino will be seen there late at night, and yes you the one who is about to retort, you have had no trouble there for a very long time. Doesn't mean the place is safe, and newbies reading this stuff from afar including Iceland, wherever, should be told so. I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.
Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?
Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described it
I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.
Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?
Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described itOK, I was finished with Tom, but I will give you one post, mainly cause your trying to twist something I said two years ago to cover the whole of downtown area.
Here is my one and only post to you, I am not going to go on and on about this. You are free to do so, however. Here is my one and only post to you.
"Arriving at the Jakosalem entrance of Jonquerra, stepping out of the taxi, selecting your girl, hopping back in a taxi where you got out, is safe. I do not promote walking around downtown area late at night because it is not safe. Your trying to twist my Jonquerra comment to cover the whole downtown area per se. Jonquerra is an enclave, not a batch of streets, for those who have never been there.
I personally know one foreigner who died 2 or 3 years after being brutally attacked late at night in the downtown area. In his case it was the very public Colon Street where he came unstuck. But its not very public late at night as its only inhabited by the rats, pimps, desperate girls, and the likes of Mortman, it seems. Foreigner friend spent those last years of his life wasting away in a wheelchair. For his habit of walking around downtown late at night, and early in the mornings, he paid a heavy price, his life. He was a resident, so he walked around more than fly in fly out mongers would, and therefore had a greater chance of becoming unstuck. But it can happen, and everyone should know it.
Keep walking around there if you like Mortman, I just do not think people should be given the impression that it is a safe area to walk around.
Out of curiosity. 10 days ago, I stopped the taxi at the Jakosalem entrance to Jonquerra to see if what my Filipino friends were telling me was true. Years ago I partook of the unfortunate girls of Jonquerra.
Instead of 20 or more girls and six or more pimps surrounding the taxi, only 2 or 3 girls and 2 pimps were there. The alleyway leading into Jonquerra proper itself was deserted of mama-sans and others. One such sighting doesn't prove my Filipino friends story, but looks a bit that way. More should visit and report their findings. I am no longer in Cebu. I didn't see any sign of houses being torn down, but never entered Jonquerra proper anyway. Residents of this area have never paid rent, they are squatters pure and simple, and apparently have no rights to avoid eviction. But I think they will put up a hardy resistance just the same. Doubt if they will all be evicted within a 6 to 12 months time frame, hence some girls will be there, but most apparently have moved out. Don't know for certain until others who know the place at its peak, say up to 12 months ago, visit again and report their findings.
Perhaps the Jonquerra girls have dispersed to Lapu Lapu. Anyway, not my concern cause I don't rummage around trash cans anymore. No need for that, when there are so many quality girls on offer elsewhere. For me it's an object of curiosity only, these days.
Rummage where you like, and report what you like, but don't twist stuff I have said before, and two years ago at that, LOL. If I wanted to, I could look up your first post on Jonquerra 2 or 3 years ago where you gave a false and misleading impression on Jonquerra, and it was your first visit there, but like Tom you put it across like you knew it all. But why bother, thats water under the bridge. I have got other things to do, other than talk to you and Tom.
Gaijin Gigolo
04-08-11, 16:38
I seem to remember in one of your reports from 2 years ago and I quote" I never questioned safety at Jonquerra" unquote, but now you are suggesting the area is some kind of danger zone to be avoided at all costs? Jonquera, Colon Street and the areas adjoining Colon Street are colourful and seedy, certainly not places for the faint hearted, but I must be one of the other lucky ones you mentioned, as I have never had any problems there, even late at night. I have also visited the area late at night with other board members.
Everyone has their own personal experiences of a place or area and it might not always equate with your or other people's experiences but there is no need to get yourself in such a frenzy over GG's post. Instead of flaming and caustic sarcasm it would be better and more informative for everyone if you recounted your own factual account of your last visit to the area, assuming of course you have been there in recent years?
Warning others about dangers is important and the area does require you to remain alert and vigilant but there is no need for you to exaggerate the danger either. Oh and by the way some of us enjoy rummaging around the bottom of the trash can as you so aptly described itAbsolutely right, Mort, thanks for that. He may not have seen what we know is there but that doesn't mean it's not there does it. Ffs.
Sxxx
I figured it would be only a matter of time before you crawled out from the woodwork again spitting venom in your usual style. Look back through your posts on Jonquera, you contradict yourself one minute saying it is safe and the next minute you are saying how dangerous it is. Its a shame you don't remain lurking on the board (your words not mine) and stay away from posting, your childish sarcasm is not helpful and nor is it welcome.
Since you mentioned it and not me, my Jonquera reports have all been based on actual visits and personal observations. The old post of mine on Jonquera that you mention got you pissed because I stated something that you thought you knew better and you resented being told anything. After all you are an expert are you not? It was not because my post was in any way misleading or untrue, yet another one of your many contradictions.
I have never said downtown is safe and I don't think anyone else has either, perhaps you have been reading the wrong posts Sxxx? Downtown is certainly poor and neglected and you need to keep your wits about you at all times, just like you need to do in any similar area of any other foreign city at night. However your armchair criticism and suggestions that you are likely to be murdered by going there is going just a bit too far. Yes if you walk round drunk, flash your cash, or show disrespect you are likely to end up in serious trouble. Stick to the main thoroughfares, behave confidently and be observant and you can try a taste of the raw and seedy part of Cebu without (as Sxxx suggests) ending up in a morgue.
It is immaterial to me whether people go or stay away from the downtown area and I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy myself downtown at night, I try to exercise common sense and I do not see why anyone else should not. Excessive scare mongering is a bit silly in my book and if you do not agree with GG's or others posts, you don't need to be rude or insulting to articulate your point
Hello, guys,
Thanks for all you who shared me some info, If you have any more to add, you can either send me a message or just post.
Stxxx send me lots of messages with some good info, Its much appriciated, The forum wars get old fast guys, I just type off the top of my head without thought most times. I am sure you can tell)
If any of you have contacts you are willing to share, send me a message, this is my second time in cebu city and I do not really like mango clubs much, so I am looking to explore other options.
So if you have some contact info for a semi pro, pro, dai girl that is willing I would appriciate it. I am not a big spender, but a spender for sure. Haha.
I am a very light drinker, non smoker american from the western USA, I love cebu except the stink on streets, I can handle that though, smells like tijuana to me.)
Thanks again guys, lets all have fun, I will post reports from my non mango journey, won't be to many though. I am going to spend most of my time with my cutie.
Are you willing to share the contact of your cutie? Then I'm willing to share my contacts to you too.
Seriously. I do not understand. There are so many to be found on different Chat and dating sites and if you still fail to find less than a dozen contacts after that, then just land in the Philippines and look left and right. They're all over.
No offense intended.
Hello, guys,
Thanks for all you who shared me some info, If you have any more to add, you can either send me a message or just post.
Stxxx send me lots of messages with some good info, Its much appriciated, The forum wars get old fast guys, I just type off the top of my head without thought most times. I am sure you can tell)
If any of you have contacts you are willing to share, send me a message, this is my second time in cebu city and I do not really like mango clubs much, so I am looking to explore other options.
So if you have some contact info for a semi pro, pro, dai girl that is willing I would appriciate it. I am not a big spender, but a spender for sure. Haha.
I am a very light drinker, non smoker american from the western USA, I love cebu except the stink on streets, I can handle that though, smells like tijuana to me.)
Thanks again guys, lets all have fun, I will post reports from my non mango journey, won't be to many though. I am going to spend most of my time with my cutie.
GregLondon
04-10-11, 04:01
Cheers guys for the further tips
Have been hitting DIA pretty hard, but am getting the impression that just going for a walk around some malls would be at least as effective.
Feels a bit as if DIA could lead to a situation where I end up spending an inordinate amount of time once I get to Cebu doing SMS / texting (which I hate). Texting is a way off life for young Phil girls you will just have to get used to it if you want to play.
DIA is hit and miss and my view is that if you just read the war stories relayed on DIA you will mostly hear the hits as thats the way guys work. In Ayala and SM there are a bunch of pro girls who see it as their place of business and will make flirtatious eye contact and go back to your hotel very easily. There are also many normal girls or shop girls who are not quite such easy pickings and will need a degree of confidence, and charm or technique of some sort to seduce
Are you willing to share the contact of your cutie? Then I'm willing to share my contacts to you too.
Seriously. I do not understand. There are so many to be found on different Chat and dating sites and if you still fail to find less than a dozen contacts after that, then just land in the Philippines and look left and right. They're all over.
No offense intended. Well some people seem to be open to sharing contacts, to help girls they know find customers. Its ok if you don't have any to share, not sure a post is needed for that. Or this one needed to tell you this.
It is amazing how many non informational back and forth post fill up space here. Like this one.
So I will add this, if anyone has more info on the lapu lapu p4p sceene I would much appriciate it, obviously we have seen a little but hoping for others to share. Thanks
GregLondon
04-10-11, 09:49
Well some people seem to be open to sharing contacts, to help girls they know find customers. Its ok if you don't have any to share, not sure a post is needed for that. Or this one needed to tell you this.
It is amazing how many non informational back and forth post fill up space here. Like this one.
So I will add this, if anyone has more info on the lapu lapu p4p sceene I would much appriciate it, obviously we have seen a little but hoping for others to share. ThanksSpeaking as someone who has shared quite a few contacts in the past, I'd make a few comments.
1 I think a few decent high quality leads are VERY useful to guys who are new to the Phils or don't have limitless time to surf the dating sites or have a knack with chatting up girls. Of course there are thousands of girls available in the Phils and dating sites etc and its very easy to get 10-20 cell nos, however unless I am missing a trick girls who I would call high quality. Ie young, cute, no stretch marks, intelligent enough to be a charming dinner companion, reliable, good in bed, open to sex, not insanely jealous, not going to bombard you with annoying texts, not looking for mega bucks are very much the exception and not the rule. There a re guys on this site who give the impression that they are able to meet an endless supply of such women with minimal effort and zero cost. All I can say is hats off to you, you are much more skilful at it than me.
2 My experience of providing contact details has been very mixed. On the positive side 2 girls have got married and 2 are now engaged to be married through the help I've given them finding guys. Others have had trips to various places or financial assistance which has come in very useful. 95% of the guys have been appreciate of my help. The problem comes with the 5% when things go wrong. Some guys are not above posting BS stories in this forum to trash a girl's reputation if they break up with her or are otherwise overcome with jealous frustration / anger. The other issue is that many guys think that helping other guys out is such an odd thing to do that they can't believe you are not getting some sort of financial or other benefit, so you get disparaging innuendo about being some sort of pimp. A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.
The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier.
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The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier. I never share any contact details with any guys that I have not personally met. Simple rule.
When I hear some of the stories girls tell me about how some guys treat them then I certainly don't want to send any of my lady friends off to bad experiences.
We all agree here in various posts that we all have very different tastes so even if a friend recommends a name and number to me I still always make a point of checking her out either on cam or in a coffee shop before I move to the next step.
I just think it is poor form for first-time visitors to the Phils to EXPECT guys to share names with you, but if you find someone who is happy to do so then by all means go ahead.
GL.
I think your comments are very accurate about the DIA scene and I must admit I thought the old posts alleging you were some kind of pimp were rather stupid. But the point you make about the effort required to get just a handful of reliable and quality girls is true, I often spend many hours on line cultivating DIA contacts before meeting them in person.
The groundwork is very time consuming and tedious but it does pay off in the end. That is one of the main reasons I do not share contacts and the other being that some guys may not like the same qualities and physical traits that I find attractive.
Cuchulain.
I don't know if you read my post on Lapu Lapu but a visit and a field report would make interesting reading if you want to explore the Lapu Lapu scene. The area I mentioned is as far as I can tell is not frequented much by foreigners, I may try and visit there when I am back in July. I have also visited Casas in Lapu Lapu, they do exist but you will need to use a taxi driver which carries with it the inherent risk of being ripped off. The last time I used a casa in Lapu Lapu, the taxi driver got out and started talking to the manager in Cebuano. I had the feeling the taxi driver negotiated himself a commission, but it still only cost me 1500 as I remember. As for DIA girls, you didn't say when your visit to Cebu starts but surely you have made some effort before hand to contact girls? I find the pros and semi pros on DIA are easier to meet, they are less likely to let you down than regular girls and they are usually easy to spot on DIA in their bikini or underwear shots or their provocative and sexual poses
GoodEnough
04-10-11, 10:58
As many long-time readers of this forum will know, I'm in a long-term relationship that I value highly, so my days of catting around clubs and pick-up area in Davao are long gone. However I used to get bombarded with PMs asking if, through my lady, I could fix them up with exactly the type of presentable, intelligent women whom it's not so easy to meet if you don't live here, or at least have contacts here. At the beginning, I was only too happy to help, as we know some really attractive, well educated younger women who have a strong desire to meet foreign guys. Unfortunately, most of these meetings did not end well, and the guys had some difficulties distinguishing between these women and rent-a-girls. Either that, or that had forgotten, in some cases, how to behave with "normal" women, and were so awkward and socially inept that it was embarrassing. I've since given up, and I just don't do it anymore for people I don't know pretty well.
I think RK and I share a common perspective on these requests. We live here, and we can't afford to have our reputations besmirched by guys who are crass, impolite and who seem to honestly believe that as soon as they stepped of the plane they became irresistible to women 20 years younger than they. This is not to denigrate the hundreds of sincere, decent guys out there, but I'm no longer willing to take the chance, sight unseen. There's a saying in French that goes: "Un homme averti en vaux deux," which I guess roughly translated means once bitten, twice shy. I've been bitten more than once.
GE
GE, RK, GL: I totally respect that. I will be moving to the PI in a few years and will only set up dates with people I know and trust. I've been fairly lucky finding my own dates including some exquisite non-pros. Still, if any of you want to get together for a beer or two I'd be happy to buy.
Here's my schedule:
May 1. 3 Makati.
(then off to Hanoi and Saigon for work)
May 15. 17 Malate.
May 18. 19 Dumaguete.
May 20. 22 Cebu City.
Cheers!
As many long-time readers of this forum will know, I'm in a long-term relationship that I value highly, so my days of catting around clubs and pick-up area in Davao are long gone. However I used to get bombarded with PMs asking if, through my lady, I could fix them up with exactly the type of presentable, intelligent women whom it's not so easy to meet if you don't live here, or at least have contacts here. At the beginning, I was only too happy to help, as we know some really attractive, well educated younger women who have a strong desire to meet foreign guys. Unfortunately, most of these meetings did not end well, and the guys had some difficulties distinguishing between these women and rent-a-girls. Either that, or that had forgotten, in some cases, how to behave with "normal" women, and were so awkward and socially inept that it was embarrassing. I've since given up, and I just don't do it anymore for people I don't know pretty well.
I think RK and I share a common perspective on these requests. We live here, and we can't afford to have our reputations besmirched by guys who are crass, impolite and who seem to honestly believe that as soon as they stepped of the plane they became irresistible to women 20 years younger than they. This is not to denigrate the hundreds of sincere, decent guys out there, but I'm no longer willing to take the chance, sight unseen. There's a saying in French that goes: "Un homme averti en vaux deux," which I guess roughly translated means once bitten, twice shy. I've been bitten more than once.
GE
Stroker Ace88
04-10-11, 15:04
my peeps tell me it was sold last week.
seems like the former owner had too many setbacks including the fire. mattrick,
yes the bar has been sold, but i have heard two different versions of who will own the bar, the combinations are well known to frequent visitors of cebu. i know all parties involved but not sure until the dust settles who's name will be on the deed.
i was even offered outright ownership in the last few weeks on march but i declined and replied with the old saying,"the only way to make a small fortune in the philippines, is to start with a large one".
i noticed a fresh delivery of sml a few days ago and some staff cleaning with the door open, which will hopefully reduce the resident cockroach population to a more acceptable level.
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I noticed a fresh delivery of SML a few days ago and some staff cleaning with the door open, which will hopefully reduce the resident cockroach population to a more acceptable level. Hahaha I notice you said "more acceptable level".
I never minded them on the floor except for the little baby buggers who used to run along the edge of the bar between me and my drink. The girls used to try to swat them away before I saw them hehe.
There must be generations of roaches living there who will only be removed by one of those industrial strength insecticide bombs.
I hope SD re-opens, roaches or no roaches.
Gaijin Gigolo
04-10-11, 16:27
Sxxx.
I figured it would be only a matter of time before you crawled out from the woodwork again spitting venom in your usual style. Look back through your posts on Jonquera, you contradict yourself one minute saying it is safe and the next minute you are saying how dangerous it is. Its a shame you don't remain lurking on the board (your words not mine) and stay away from posting, your childish sarcasm is not helpful and nor is it welcome.
Since you mentioned it and not me, my Jonquera reports have all been based on actual visits and personal observations. The old post of mine on Jonquera that you mention got you pissed because I stated something that you thought you knew better and you resented being told anything. After all you are an expert are you not? It was not because my post was in any way misleading or untrue, yet another one of your many contradictions.
I have never said downtown is safe and I don't think anyone else has either, perhaps you have been reading the wrong posts Sxxx? Downtown is certainly poor and neglected and you need to keep your wits about you at all times, just like you need to do in any similar area of any other foreign city at night. However your armchair criticism and suggestions that you are likely to be murdered by going there is going just a bit too far. Yes if you walk round drunk, flash your cash, or show disrespect you are likely to end up in serious trouble. Stick to the main thoroughfares, behave confidently and be observant and you can try a taste of the raw and seedy part of Cebu without (as Sxxx suggests) ending up in a morgue.
It is immaterial to me whether people go or stay away from the downtown area and I know it is not everyone's cup of tea. I enjoy myself downtown at night, I try to exercise common sense and I do not see why anyone else should not. Excessive scare mongering is a bit silly in my book and if you do not agree with GG's or others posts, you don't need to be rude or insulting to articulate your pointAgain, well stated Mortman.
GL.
Cuchulain.
I don't know if you read my post on Lapu Lapu but a visit and a field report would make interesting reading if you want to explore the Lapu Lapu scene. The area I mentioned is as far as I can tell is not frequented much by foreigners, I may try and visit there when I am back in July. I have also visited Casas in Lapu Lapu, they do exist but you will need to use a taxi driver which carries with it the inherent risk of being ripped off. The last time I used a casa in Lapu Lapu, the taxi driver got out and started talking to the manager in Cebuano. I had the feeling the taxi driver negotiated himself a commission, but it still only cost me 1500 as I remember. As for DIA girls, you didn't say when your visit to Cebu starts but surely you have made some effort before hand to contact girls? I find the pros and semi pros on DIA are easier to meet, they are less likely to let you down than regular girls and they are usually easy to spot on DIA in their bikini or underwear shots or their provocative and sexual posesI will give an updated report on lapu lapu, I know they have a mall called the grandmall, I might be the only white guy in that place, but I think I might give it a shot. I seen you posted about a street scene in lapu lapu, maybe If I can find a taxi driver who I trust, I might venture in there. We will see how it goes.
Thanks for the info on the dai about the pros and semi pros, That helps when looking for an almost sure thing well as close as you can get on dai.
By the way, I have been to cebu before, and I not interested in contacts for anyones gf. But if you know a good semipro send me a message.
Thanks, All
Phantomtiger2
04-12-11, 00:37
My experience of providing contact details has been very mixed. On the positive side 2 girls have got married and 2 are now engaged to be married through the help I've given them finding guys. Others have had trips to various places or financial assistance which has come in very useful. 95% of the guys have been appreciate of my help. The problem comes with the 5% when things go wrong. Some guys are not above posting BS stories in this forum to trash a girl's reputation if they break up with her or are otherwise overcome with jealous frustration / anger. The other issue is that many guys think that helping other guys out is such an odd thing to do that they can't believe you are not getting some sort of financial or other benefit, so you get disparaging innuendo about being some sort of pimp. A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.
The net result is that speaking personally I have become much more cautious about giving out contact details than I was earlier. I tend to agree. When I first started off here, I was green and thought everyone only told true stories. That illusion ended quickly. Today, I've become more cautious myself but have the pleasure of meeting a few members here and some I've met were not members at the time but have since convinced them to join up and share their experiences since. (such as Sharka who many have said is very reliable and super helpful). For the most part, the shared times were very enjoyable with most that I've met so far, although I do remember meeting 1-2 asses along the way.
But even if I never met up with some members, just reading some of the post and experiences and helpful advices also tells me alot about that person and for those selected helpful and friendly members I've always offer to help when they PM me. Its just the way things work in the ISG world.
. Its just the way things work in the ISG world.Hey PT,
Just wanted to say thanks for all the nice tips you gave me last time I had the pleasure of meeting you when I was in Manila, not to mention the 2 or 3 beers. You are one stand up guy. Hope to return the favor someday but for now your knowledge and experiences far exceeds mine.
I agree with your thoughts also. Bottom line is if you are nice and help others then others will always return the favor. PM me when you are going back to PI as I would like to meet up with you again and return the 3 beers I still owe you.
Cheers and beers buddy,
FZ
GregLondon
04-12-11, 01:41
I will give an updated report on lapu lapu, I know they have a mall called the grandmall, I might be the only white guy in that place, but I think I might give it a shot. I seen you posted about a street scene in lapu lapu, maybe If I can find a taxi driver who I trust, I might venture in there. We will see how it goes.
Thanks for the info on the dai about the pros and semi pros, That helps when looking for an almost sure thing well as close as you can get on dai.
By the way, I have been to Cebu before, and I not interested in contacts for anyones gf. But if you know a good semipro send me a message.
Thanks, AllThey have a Gaisano Mall in Lapu Lapu not sure if this is the one you are talking about. It's like a typical mid range provincial mall. You will find a handful of white faces but not many. Of course there are hundreds of pretty girls there but unlike Ayala and SM they won't be there specifically to hunt for foreigners they will have come to do their shopping. If you have the knack you can for sure strike up conversations and get numbers etc but you would need to be non shy and good at that sort of thing. At SM / Ayala you are going to get tracked down by the pros who will specifically wander around aimlessly and give you the eye as they are hunting for potential customers.
There are plenty of DIA girls who are based in LL who would be good candidates. Often they will put Cebu rather than Lapu Lapu as their location but getting them out downtown is often a problem.
Chocha Monger
04-12-11, 01:46
A further problem is that many guys who come to the Phils prefer to have unprotected sex and inevitably this results in unwanted pregnancies and STDs because in most cases the girls are too weak to insist on safe sex. Being a nice guy, I always seem to be the one they turn to for advice or help dealing with these issues with the guy responsible for her condition disappeared from the scene.How many of your girls got knocked up or infected by diseased mongers who then fled the scence leaving you holding the bag for abortions or STD treatments?
Blaring headline in yesterday's Cebu newspaper, The Freeman, which is generally even handed.
"146 KTV BARGIRLS RESCUED IN RAID"
This was apparently a full-on media event coordinated by a number of agencies, including.
The Regional Intelligence Division 7, the Regional Anti-Trafficking Force, Inter-Agency Council Against Trafficking.
And the Department of Justice. The International Justice Mission and the Department of Social Welfare.
Also took part in the raid.
The raid took place midnight Saturday at the Club Jaguar KTV Bar after reports that some minors were working at the bar.
Hmmmmn, really? Minors working at a bar? Naw, not in Cebu! I was especially impressed that all 146 girls.
Had been "rescued".29 of them could be minors. This estimate came from the checking of teeth! One girl did admit to being a minor. No mention of her feeling relief at being "rescued".
All 146 were carted off to a detention center. Does this herald further "rescue" raids to protect the thousands of victims in all the other bars? Couldn't possibly be another meaningless grand-standing event, could it?
More likely, that somone either pissed the authorities off, or (cynical me) , the elevation of shake-down 'fees'
At other bars could be in the offing.
GregLondon
04-12-11, 02:39
How many of your girls got knocked up or infected by diseased mongers who then fled the scence leaving you holding the bag for abortions or STD treatments?Over the last 15 months I've gotten involved in 4 cases of STDs and 7 pregnancies. 2 girls ended up giving birth, one a normal birth another an emergency caesarian of a premature baby following attempted late abortions. 4 abortions and 1 18 year old who is currently pregnant and already tried unsuccessfully at abort twice.
I am not suggesting "mongers" are responsible for all of this, in most cases which guy is responsible is a matter of speculation and debate and I suspect Phil BFs are the bigger threat but in some cases mongers are clearly implicated. In some cases they act responsibly and help financially in others the girl either has no contact info or the guy refuses to help, in others another western guy steps up to help and I have just given moral support / advice / found out where to get treatment etc, in others the girl is able to earn or borrow enough to pay fro treatment. The whole abortion scene here is an absolute nightmare. Girls are given zero sex education. A large majority of Phil guys and a high proportion of foreigners refuse to wear condoms. Girls are generally too shy / poor / embarrassed to seek STD treatment unless the symptoms become really obvious. Getting advice on abortions here is a nightmare as is picking up abortion drugs or finding out about underground clinics and advice on the right dosage etc, the girls are often getting conflicting advice re whether to keep or abort the baby. The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.
Chocha Monger
04-12-11, 03:07
Over the last 15 months I've gotten involved in 4 cases of STDs and 7 pregnancies. 2 girls ended up giving birth, one a normal birth another an emergency caesarian of a premature baby following attempted late abortions. 4 abortions and 1 18 year old who is currently pregnant and already tried unsuccessfully at abort twice.Impressive! This reads like a casualty report from the Battle of Dunkirk.
Does anyone know the lapu lapu scene?Yes I'm familiar with Mactan and Lapu2x and as I have said before, it is a world onto itself! Most guys just pass through coming to and from the airport and don't give it a second thought. The fact is there are probably more boarding houses per square kilometer then anywhere in the Pines! These house women that are the backbone to the growing manufacturing sector, among other things.
There are several malls including the new Grand Gaisano which upon my last visit still had a few vacancies but was gaining traction. The best mall for women in my opinion is the old Gaisano located on the National Highway. Marina Mall is another possible place for meeting available women.
The bar scene is good with over a dozen go go bars that cater to the ever present Asian clientele as well as local expats. There are more then a few casas with some reserved only for the Japanese. Find a trustworthy cabbie who can take you around and show you the nightlife. One time a cabbie took me to a shooting range where I was able to shoot the gun of my choice including a M-16!
If you are friendly and adventurous, you should be able to make friends very quickly just by walking around and / or hanging out. My local Pinoys friends have some reservations exploring Lapu2x but that is because they fear the unknown. But those who seek shall find a bonanza!
GregLondon
04-12-11, 03:16
Impressive! This reads like a casualty report from the Battle of Dunkirk.Depressing rather than impressive
The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.Ah I see a business opportunity here, and potential for funding from the US: Guetto Priest / Family Planning Clinic
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Mortman
Member #4491
04-12-11, 19:30
Heading back to Cebu and Davao the third week of May, and I am contemplating to try another area.
I stayed at Park Lane close to Ayalla last trip, and got curious on Lapu Lapu after reading about it here. I only have two days before I go to Davao, so not much time to waste. Is it better to meet my "friends" and head for Mango Av a night, oris Lapu Lapu penetrable in just 48 hours?
GregLondon, you know I am a generous gentleman with a fetish so why don't you refer all those pregnant girls to me so I can help them out? .96% of the girls I see are normal, non pregnant, but it is the 4% that are super hard to meet, so any referrals are most welcome.
B
I am a DIA guy, but have to admit that it is a laborious process of online chatting.
And numerous, mind numbing, text messages. For a change last night I went to check out
Mango Square. Sat at a table near the entrance to Juliana's, nursing a Tanduay Ice and observing.
The passing parade. Lots of girls heading into Juliana's and quite a few free lancers searching for company.
Two girls joined me at my table, hoping for a double invite. I chose one and gave the other 100 pesos.
As they were friends.
My girl was an enthusiastic partner with advanced blow job skills and a capacity for multiple orgasms.
She was happy to get 500 pesos and a couple of hundred for a late night cab back to Mandaue.
I reflected afterwards that this was both a nice change and an efficient use of time and money.
Freebies are Not Cheap. They require lots of time and money spent on taxis, meals and trips to resorts.
With additional outlays for bikinis, sarongs, sandals, etc.
For well under a thousand pesos and no strings attached, there's a lot to be said for going this browser route.
There is a lot to be said for freelancers vs. Dia girls but I still like that GFE once you get a good one.
Sounds like your dia friends have been well-worn and spoiled by previous international bfs.
I like to have a gf working a normal job and sleeping with me at nite. During the day, freelancers.
Are used for afternoon delights. Also, scheduling is not a challenge using freelancers. The combo works best for me.
Cheapy.
I am a DIA guy, but have to admit that it is a laborious process of online chatting.
And numerous, mind numbing, text messages. For a change last night I went to check out
Mango Square. Sat at a table near the entrance to Juliana's, nursing a Tanduay Ice and observing.
The passing parade. Lots of girls heading into Juliana's and quite a few free lancers searching for company.
Two girls joined me at my table, hoping for a double invite. I chose one and gave the other 100 pesos.
As they were friends.
My girl was an enthusiastic partner with advanced blow job skills and a capacity for multiple orgasms.
She was happy to get 500 pesos and a couple of hundred for a late night cab back to Mandaue.
I reflected afterwards that this was both a nice change and an efficient use of time and money.
Freebies are Not Cheap. They require lots of time and money spent on taxis, meals and trips to resorts.
With additional outlays for bikinis, sarongs, sandals, etc.
For well under a thousand pesos and no strings attached, there's a lot to be said for going this browser route.
Member #4491
04-13-11, 11:25
I had a lot of positive PM response on me mentioning the word "pregnant" in the same sentence as "fetish". More than me that are into pregnant girl, but apparently some fuck heads here can not live with other having this fetish and flame guys who write about this horrible perversion.
As I wrote before 96% of my girls are non pregnant but I will share an experience that will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) of all the narrow minded and make the preggo-lovers happy.
I had two preggos last trip in March. One was quite an amazing story. I took the virginity of this 19 year old girl in September 2010 and she made the mistake to introduce me to her friend that came to meet my friend. I told her that there was no friend to meet, but she insisted to come and then we would try to meet one together (lame excuse). Well she met me instead. Lovely girls both of them. As it ended up they where sort of competing a bit against each other. One tall and sexy legs (the ex virgin) , the other smaller with big tits and lovely innocent eyes.
I mentioned to the tall one that I would like to have sex with a pregnant girl next time I come to Phil and she promised she would ask her 19 year old best friend, E. Her husband is very jealous and never lets her out of the house, but the tall one would invite her out for pizza and then I would join them and if E liked me she would come with us to the room, and the tall one would go out for a while E earned herself a new (used) cell phone and some cash.
So I meet these two girls in the Mall and E turns out to be a beautiful young teen with some extra kilos over her ass and amazingly big tits. We are talking big also by European measures. They where just pushing to get out. So we go to the room but E is a bit short in the way that pinays get when they know that are acting like a wh*re and are ashamed to some friend. In the room I figured I will ask if I can feel her tummy as the tall one is playing music on Youtube. I start to rub it and let my hand wander to her huge tits, and E tense up a bit and nods to the tall one. 100 peso for a juice and me and E are alone. As I start to undress E I can see her eyes getting all misty and horny and figure this girl does not see much cock nowadays (pregnant sex = taboo for many in the Philippines).
I take of her bra and her huge tits just bounces out, even bigger than promised. Swollen and really firm. A great kisser but still a bit ambivalent to her sin. As I take of her panties I can see that she is very juiced up. Her panties are all wet and sticky and she is already dripping a bit down her butt crack. I take out a condom but here I get a big NO. No condom allowed. No motivation either. I start to say "what if you get." and realize that this will not happen twice at the same time in nature. Hard to stop in this situation so I remind myself that E only had one man in her life and is said to be a "good girl" (yes I am tested OK now for the whole range of STD).
I say ok and ask her where I should shoot my load. And she says that her tummy is good. So I kiss her some more and press my cock in her wet fanny only to feel that she is still really tight. I experience this before and can not get my head around it. 6 months pregnant and tight as a virgin. I fuck her tight fanny while her knockers bounce around, and fight hard not to be the 5 minute wonder but loose. She is just to lovely and I can not help to shoot my load on her tummy and pussy. To my surprise she takes my cock and rubs and fucks in my sperm in her wet fanny, all wiggling around on the bed. Very horny wanting to have more. After some afterburner love she starts to get all guilt ridden again and decides it is time to shower alone and get dressed to go home. The tall one comes back. Material things change owners. I kiss E goodbye, pack my bag and get on my bike and drive to the nearest beach resort with the tall teen where she is introduced to love making, part two.
But that is another story.
B
Mongrinastrlnd
04-13-11, 16:20
Where exactly is Juliana's please? And Mango Square? Is it near Diplomat Hotel. Geez, I got to getta map. Thanks.If you walk up to Maxilom from Diplomat, cross the street, turn right and proceed down the street in the direction of the main bar area it will be on your left before you reach there. Should be no more than 10 minutes on foot, though you might not want to do that walk at night.
Ditto. I had some great times at the Silver Dollar in the back room and with take-out.
Maya from there was a superb porn star! I agree on both counts. I liked Silver Dollar because it opened at 11 am (later 12 noon) and you had some where to kill time and get a nice ST.
I always wanted to take the waitress and she would not even give me the time of day. Fast forward a year and she is working in a new bar and she is all on me. I was shocked and asked her why the change and she told me that the owner of Silver Dollar would fire the waitress if they tried to barfine, but her new bar allowed bar fines. I took her out and she picked up another waitress she knew in another bar and she had a great three-sum.
From a very reliable source it was closed due to the owner not paying the staff. He paid the dancers, but not the staff and they turned him in to DOLE.
Robb
Hairy Wonder
04-14-11, 00:24
....I will share an experience that will [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) of all the narrow minded and make the preggo-lovers happy.Great FR B! While I have never gone out actively seeking preggos, I have had preggo sex with the ex-wife (warden) , and some ex-gf's (want to be wardens). I don't know why anyone would get upset about this fetish. Even the gynecologist will tell the girls that preggo sex is OK up until the last trimester. I was very happy reading your report! :D
Enjoy!
HW
Member #4491
04-14-11, 15:59
Hi Robb, do you know what bar Maya went to? She is worth repeating.
Also if anyone has seen any busty Cebuanas could you kindly let me know? I will be in Cebu May 20-22 and would be happy to repay you in San Migs. I've got some DIAs lined up but that is always a gamble. Happy horndogging! D Cups I will hook you up with some numbers I got from a fellow monger. Confirmed good size cups.
Will send you a PM later.
B
Member #4491
04-14-11, 16:23
great fr b! while i have never gone out actively seeking preggos, i have had preggo sex with the ex-wife (warden) , and some ex-gf's (want to be wardens). i don't know why anyone would get upset about this fetish. even the gynecologist will tell the girls that preggo sex is ok up until the last trimester. i was very happy reading your report! .
enjoy!
hwyea, if there is no medical issue it is even recommended in some countries to have regular sexual activities during pregnancy. not that i need such advice.
i guess it is just the "unknown" that rubs some guys the wrong way. one misconception seems to be that preggo lovers wish to be babies and in fact fuck these girls to drink the milk. this is not the case for me. in fact many women do not start to produce milk until late in the 8:th month. i guess a born again baby would wait until after the delivery. now that is something i find harder to grasp. these guys that sit in baby beds with a [CodeWord132] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord132) and baby hat, and are taken care of. i saw a few minutes of a british documentary on this topic. managers and "men with power" that got a kick from being treated like babies. this is not sex but more towards playful therapy for me, even if i try to keep a very open mind. but i never tried so what do i know. wonder if isg has any policy on how different / weird things can be to be allowed here, or if it is just the general censorship commonly found in any large group of men, that will set the standards? i remember one guy being flamed for admitting to requesting a finger up his ass in some geyland fish bowl. a finger in the ass must be a clear sign that this guy is one of these f*cking homosexuals. (yes i am ironic)
in any case i am glad someone liked the story and i hope that i get to read more adventures of all sorts here on the board. variation makes life colorful, and most people here can handle it. so come on and post you lurking preggo lover. i know you are out there.
/barba counting down to next trip
Hi Robb, do you know what bar Maya went to? She is worth repeating.
Also if anyone has seen any busty Cebuanas could you kindly let me know? I will be in Cebu May 20-22 and would be happy to repay you in San Migs. I've got some DIAs lined up but that is always a gamble. Happy horndogging! Sorry I have not been to Cebu since February. I have been hanging out in Manila and AC. Summer is here and the airlines have all changed their schedules, so it easier for me to head to Manila.
Robb
Phantomtiger2
04-15-11, 00:06
? I remember one guy being flamed for admitting to requesting a finger up his ass in some Geyland fish bowl. A finger in the ass must be a clear sign that this guy is one of these f*cking homosexuals.I've been to Geylang and had one Thai gal in the legal houses stuck a finger up my butt once (didn't ask her so it was a shock to me when it happened). She was just being too playful as my fingers were roaming all over her. Didn't make me feel gay but just having a bit of fun with us both.
Phantomtiger2
04-15-11, 00:17
. Girls are given zero sex education. A large majority of Phil guys and a high proportion of foreigners refuse to wear condoms. Girls are generally too shy / poor / embarrassed to seek STD treatment unless the symptoms become really obvious. Getting advice on abortions here is a nightmare as is picking up abortion drugs or finding out about underground clinics and advice on the right dosage etc, the girls are often getting conflicting advice re whether to keep or abort the baby. The whole thing is a major headache and one of the root causes of many of the problems faced in the Phils.True, this is a society based on the teachings of the Catholic Church and even the very mention of abortion is taboo to most families. They would rather keep an unwanted child rather than abort it. Also, due to the cost, only the ones with some money can even consider this option.
True, this is a society based on the teachings of the Catholic Church and even the very mention of abortion is taboo to most families. They would rather keep an unwanted child rather than abort it. Also, due to the cost, only the ones with some money can even consider this option.It's not just the Catholic Church. Most of the other denominations that hold sway in this country.
Are united in their opposition to any effective means of controlling the sky-rocketing population.
Abortion is Mortal Sin period! If you're locked into a 'simple' life, then simple thought processes.
Dictate unquestioning acceptance.
All 146 were carted off to a detention center. Does this herald further "rescue" raids to protect the thousands of victims in all the other bars? Couldn't possibly be another meaningless grand-standing event, could it?
More likely, that somone either pissed the authorities off, or (cynical me) , the elevation of shake-down 'fees'This 'rescue' was historic for Cebu in that none of the local authorities were involved, similar to the raids that have taken place in AC. Instead it was federal agents from several government agencies including some manpower from USA. You see the Philippines is on the [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) watch list and in order to secure funding from the USA government, steps must be taken to crack down on the biggest offenders.
Chocha Monger
04-15-11, 05:43
This 'rescue' was historic for Cebu in that none of the local authorities were involved, similar to the raids that have taken place in AC. Instead it was federal agents from several government agencies including some manpower from USA. You see the Philippines is on the [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) watch list and in order to secure funding from the USA government, steps must be taken to crack down on the biggest offenders.Amazing! The government is running record deficits but can still finance the cost of saving hookers from themselves on the other side of the world. If we could stay out of other countries' business we'd be able to pay off the national debt in a few years.
It's not just the Catholic Church. Most of the other denominations that hold sway in this country.
Are united in their opposition to any effective means of controlling the sky-rocketing population.
Abortion is Mortal Sin period! If you're locked into a 'simple' life, then simple thought processes.
Dictate unquestioning acceptance. Resistence is futile. .
PolyOrchid
04-15-11, 08:01
But that is another story.BBrilliant report, Barba; and I look forward to chapter 2.
I sadly must admit, at the ripe old age of 63, I've yet to record my first preggo. Will definitely put it on the bucket list.
GoodEnough
04-15-11, 10:57
Resistence is futile. .What's even more tragic is that the middle and upper classes here; those with money and education totally ignore the church, have small families and educate their kids. The poor, the ignorant and the repressed keep churning out babies at an alarming rate with no thought about how they will support them or educate them, thus perpetuating endless cycles of poverty among an ever-growing poor class. The church is the third rail here, and is as influential in politics as the government. It's an abomination.
Just had dinner with my current companion up at I T Park, close to Waterfront Hotel in Lahug.
It's the first time I've been there and was surprised on several counts. Looks and feels like separate.
Country. Clean, well organized, quiet, attractive streets and sidewalks. My God, am I still in the Phiippines?
Adding to this state of disbelief, lots of young, attractive and SLIM girls!
I was later informed that the upscale businesses and call centers here tend to hire young, slim, upwardly mobile,
Attractive Babes. Regret that I wasn't able to put my game face on and try my luck. I doubt we are looking at
Quick scores here, but curious to know if anyone else has had sucess in I T Park.
Member #4491
04-15-11, 23:02
I've been to Geylang and had one Thai gal in the legal houses stuck a finger up my butt once (didn't ask her so it was a shock to me when it happened). She was just being too playful as my fingers were roaming all over her. Didn't make me feel gay but just having a bit of fun with us both.In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.
Back to Cebu in May for a couple of nights. Tried Parklane at Ayalla last time and are thinking about some other area and hotel. Close (ish) to a mall and some bars like Red Lips. I understand I need to watch my back but like to walk instead of always taking taxis. I am fine in a simpler place. Always stay in 1000-1500 PHP hotels in Davao. I did read the forum but my problem is that I have a bunch of different options and advice, and can not decide now. So I hope some persuasive Cebu expert will direct me to THE hotel. Food or other service is secondary to location and a reasonable price. I have a Smart dongle so wifi is not important.
Seems like these are mentioned frequently but reviews var a lot. Both here and on Tripadvisor.
Marco Polo Plaza.
Elizabeth.
Crown Regency
Diplomat.
Kiwi Lodge.
Golden Prince (that I tried)
Thanks for any advice.
/B
Can any one tell me of safe gated accommodation in Cebu please and the rent
In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.
Back to Cebu in May for a couple of nights. Tried Parklane at Ayalla last time and are thinking about some other area and hotel. Close (ish) to a mall and some bars like Red Lips. I understand I need to watch my back but like to walk instead of always taking taxis. I am fine in a simpler place. Always stay in 1000-1500 PHP hotels in Davao. I did read the forum but my problem is that I have a bunch of different options and advice, and can not decide now. So I hope some persuasive Cebu expert will direct me to THE hotel. Food or other service is secondary to location and a reasonable price. I have a Smart dongle so wifi is not important.
Seems like these are mentioned frequently but reviews var a lot. Both here and on Tripadvisor.
Marco Polo Plaza.
Elizabeth.
Crown Regency
Diplomat.
Kiwi Lodge.
Golden Prince (that I tried)
Thanks for any advice.
/BTry the richmond in between ayala and the girlie bars some rooms have great views
Phantomtiger2
04-18-11, 00:54
In case it escaped anyone; I was ironic. I am not homophobic.
/BSorry Barba,
My reply was not directed at you at all but really at the point on the post where others were "flaming" the monger in Geylang that just wanted a gal to stick a finger in the ass. I was just saying it was out of fun and fetish but not to imply anything else. Afterall, just the fact that the monger was even with a "gal" said it all.
Cheers
Have not had much of a chance yet to exp the naughty side of cebu but here is my update so far.
Robinson mall and Midtown hotel had a major fire on Sunday April 17th and looks to be closed until further notice.
So obviously not going to find any girls there.
Taxi quickly drove me through Jounquras, its just right up the road from the from colon, maybe 1 km.
Only saw about 10 girls, but my taxi cab driver was trying to make some money so he might of just shown me the ones he wanted to me see. I passed but it was fun to see the pimps jumping around like monkeys.
I stay at the gv tower, I like it alot, out of the 5 places I have stayed in cebu, this is by far the best 850 pesos for a double very clean nice hotel, food kind of sucks, but in my opinion the food sucks most place in cebu. Obviously I am going to the wrong places.
Ok my gf is sleeping off to meet my first dia contact. Wish me luck.
Agree that GV Tower food is not good, plus sometimes the lobby wifi sucks. For improvement in both, taxi or "uphill" walk to Cybergate Mall on Fuente Osmenia. Upstairs, there is a food court.
Plus some decent restaurants. Plenty of table space for laptop usage. (Go charged / no outlets).
Mr. Js (restaurant / bar) is good for late afternoon beer and possible student puckups. From GV just past SOGO on next corner (left side).
Enjoy,
Cheapy
Have not had much of a chance yet to exp the naughty side of cebu but here is my update so far.
Robinson mall and Midtown hotel had a major fire on Sunday April 17th and looks to be closed until further notice.
So obviously not going to find any girls there.
Taxi quickly drove me through Jounquras, its just right up the road from the from colon, maybe 1 km.
Only saw about 10 girls, but my taxi cab driver was trying to make some money so he might of just shown me the ones he wanted to me see. I passed but it was fun to see the pimps jumping around like monkeys.
I stay at the gv tower, I like it alot, out of the 5 places I have stayed in cebu, this is by far the best 850 pesos for a double very clean nice hotel, food kind of sucks, but in my opinion the food sucks most place in cebu. Obviously I am going to the wrong places.
Ok my gf is sleeping off to meet my first dia contact. Wish me luck.
Member #4491
04-19-11, 11:24
Yea, I kind of thought so. Fortunately, most people here seem to have quite a high tolerance for deviating sexual habits. I had a cute girlfriend once, way before I discovered mongering. She had read some book on Chinese lovemaking and at one point, while giving me a blow job, she rammed a finger up my ass. For sure there was a reaction.."Auiiiiiiiiii, what the fu!" Painful.
B
Sorry Barba,
My reply was not directed at you at all but really at the point on the post where others were "flaming" the monger in Geylang that just wanted a gal to stick a finger in the ass. I was just saying it was out of fun and fetish but not to imply anything else. Afterall, just the fact that the monger was even with a "gal" said it all.
Cheers
Member #4491
04-19-11, 11:58
Try the richmond in between ayala and the girlie bars some rooms have great viewsThanks Cansx, I will check it out.
B
had my first dia contact when my gf was sleeping during the day. i knew she was mid 30s and not looker so she brought her cute tiny little 19 yr old cousin.
we went to queensland short time. i want to be so clear with this. this ws my first time at queensland, it is so discrete you could bring pretty much anyone or anything with you and the only person would see them is the car hop guy in the parking garage. not only is there parking garage but, they garge doors to the parking spots. you could mayor and get away with action here. 320 pesos short time.
well we agreed on a price before heading to queensland with both of them. they quickly showered but i could tell this was not going to be a highlight of my trip. once i strarted going down on the cute one, the older one strarted getting dressed. yes that fast within a min. i asked what she was doing. obviously major attitude so i told her to wait in the outside room. queensland looks to have a waiting room in all the rooms and i quickly put her in there. so the younger one would loosen up a bit. niether girl would do bj and would not let me use viborator on them. the thing was pretty disappointing besides the tight little body on her cousin.
staying at the gv tower. great place, i take less taxi rides and lots of stuff near by, a newer mall just down the road a block with food court. i stayed in 5 pension houses and this is the same money and way nicer. the food is not great and some of the staff are a little questionalble about the service but this is a no brainer for me. 850 pesos double, i think 650 single, but just like anywhere else singles are always gone so you have to book those early. i will next trip. its located right as you come into downtown cebu from funentes circle.
lots of action down here but pretty scary stuff.
there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.
the pimps over on the nex street where cebu century is located, are very pushy and almost a joke of the different ways they will try to make money off of you. they ask where you going and walk with you. then they walk in there like they brought you there and try to pinch the manager for a referal fee. i try to be nice and firm saying no no no, but i guess when i am the only gringo that will still speak to them.
have a few dia contacts working on, but my gf keeping me so happy, i don't have the desire. smart girl.
philippines is a great place, i am early 40s overweight by way to much and being my second trip, find new girls everyday i would take out in a heartbeat. but they do not throw themselves at you in general, just quick smiles, which is a big hint.
robinsons mall and midtown still closes, pretty good size fire heard they were going to reopen on the 25th we will see. just scrap off the burt part and move right?
more later.
there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard..great report cuchulain. funny how there was a bit a flaming going on a few weeks ago when another board member suggested the same thing and was accused of making the story up. it just goes to show that what you see on one day at a certain time, may not necessarily be reflected on another day at another time.
keep the reports coming
mortman
I dropped in to Lone Star, my favorite Cebu bar last Monday evening and had my usual good fun there.
I was told that Graham, the Aussie Lone Star owner, has bought Silver Dollar and it is open for business again.
If he runs the same operation / business model in SD as he does in Lone Star, then fun times are back again.
My friends in LS desperately wanted me to go bar-hopping with them to check out SD but I didn't have the time.
Can we have a heads-up from a Cebu local on Silver Dollar please. Opening times? Prices?
How many baby cockroaches run past your beer on the bar in 15 minutes? That sort of information? LOL
[quote=cuchulain; 1147104]there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.
in 90 mins you saw 50 prosti girls heading for the down town disco eh? thats about 1 girl in less than every 2 mins passed by you. and 40 of them were ****. and this, on your second trip to the philippines too, i see.
fifty more ladyboys passed by in the same time frame, ie, approx 100 people passed you in 90mins, more than one a minute, and you were able to competently decide they were a bunch of prostitutes and ladbyboys. well done.
for those readers who have not been outside sogo, that's one hell of a lot of traffic walking along that part of town, at night. never seen that kind of action there, unless poster got them bused in, lol.
how many beers had you drunk before you witnessed these amazing sightings?
i have been to those downtown disco's as you call them, out of curiosity, and i tell you, very few if any prostitute girls go to them. they are poor boy meets poor girl disco's, and from my observations, better for foreigners to keep away from them, otherwise you might tangle with a drunk filipino guy.
i say, if 50 girls, maybe 2/3 are prostitutes, not 40 as reported. after two trips to phils you can tell who and who is not a prostitute, who and who is not a ladyboy, in a split second, as they walk by, not bad.
the fact is, they are poor girls and guys who can't afford to go to other more refined disco's, not prostitutes and not ladyboys. small number might be prostitutes and ladyboys, but nowhere near the figs you quote.
****, well they would be young yes, but they are not going to the disco to sell themselves, so no problem there.
just another example of colourful language. guys from afar, iceland wherever, don't believe all you read, lol.
sorry, off again, just happened to spot that one on easter eve. chances are i will get tired of picking you guys up on your misleading reports. i don't think it will matter too much though, cause such reports are at least amusing to more experienced persons. but misleading for others, that's the problem.
it seems new arrivals like the current poster, and tom before, get all excited, thus finding it difficult to report things as they really are.
i will not get any medals for pulling you misleading guys in line, so goodbye. will read your colourful posts with amusement, but don't think its worth my time to respond to them anymore.
readers of this forum, i suggest you stick to the senior guys who did not fly in yesterday, post regular, reliable, factual reports. their names escape me for the moment, but soon as i see them on the page i recognise their pen names and read their informative and reliable stuff.
the other posters, and their amazing sightings, are for your amusement only. remember that.
enough.
ViceCaptain
04-22-11, 07:55
ITo my surprise she takes my cock and rubs and fucks in my sperm in her wet fanny, all wiggling around on the bed. BThis must be one of the greatest moments in puning history. Well done!
Stroker Ace88
04-23-11, 08:14
I dropped in to Lone Star, my favorite Cebu bar last Monday evening and had my usual good fun there.
I was told that Graham, the Aussie Lone Star owner, has bought Silver Dollar and it is open for business again.
If he runs the same operation / business model in SD as he does in Lone Star, then fun times are back again.
My friends in LS desperately wanted me to go bar-hopping with them to check out SD but I didn't have the time.
Can we have a heads-up from a Cebu local on Silver Dollar please. Opening times? Prices?
How many baby cockroaches run past your beer on the bar in 15 minutes? That sort of information? LOLRed Kilt,
Yes Graham of Lone Star is the new owner of Silver Dollar, but I heard back in March there was the possibility of a partner, Chris the former part owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels. I am not sure if that is the case or Graham is the only owner. I bumped into Graham 4am at Julianas a few weeks ago when SD was closed but its not the right time to talk about business.
Robb posted it was closed because Carl did not pay the staff, I don't think thats the direct cause. He did not pay the staff because he did not have the cash. The credit card machine was turned off weeks before due to non payment and the suppliers one by one were not paid and stopped deliveries. The end result was clear 60days before the bar closed as Carl looked to sell and get out.
I have not visited since the bar reopened so I can't comment on the resident cockroach population but I did walk by last week and there was a new photocopied sign on the door that reads "Open 1pm- 1am".
Updates on the New Silver Dollar would be informative, barfines, prices, same staff or new staff?
Red Kilt,
Yes Graham of Lone Star is the new owner of Silver Dollar, but I heard back in March there was the possibility of a partner, Chris the former part owner of Silver Dollar and Blue Angels. I am not sure if that is the case or Graham is the only owner. I bumped into Graham 4am at Julianas a few weeks ago when SD was closed but its not the right time to talk about business.
Robb posted it was closed because Carl did not pay the staff, I don't think thats the direct cause. He did not pay the staff because he did not have the cash. The credit card machine was turned off weeks before due to non payment and the suppliers one by one were not paid and stopped deliveries. The end result was clear 60days before the bar closed as Carl looked to sell and get out.
I have not visited since the bar reopened so I can't comment on the resident cockroach population but I did walk by last week and there was a new photocopied sign on the door that reads "Open 1pm- 1am".
Updates on the New Silver Dollar would be informative, barfines, prices, same staff or new staff? I heard keith is his partner. I don't think graham is stupid enough to have cris as a partner.
Update: As someone else reported last week Robinson's Mall was closed due to fire. As of today it was still closed until further notice. Of course most of Cebu is closed also in honor of Holy Week.
Member #4491
04-24-11, 23:57
This must be one of the greatest moments in puning history. Well done!Yesssss it was sweet. And I am working hard on arranging a reunion in May. She is a tough cookie to get a moment with but god, her tits must be even bigger and juicer now.
B
Damn, I got to take my hat off to Graham the owner of Lone Star bar! This guy drinks and party just about EVERY night of the week at his bar and others! His liver probably wants to know what tha fucks going on!
Damn, I got to take my hat off to Graham the owner of Lone Star bar! This guy drinks and party just about EVERY night of the week at his bar and others! His liver probably wants to know what tha fucks going on!Graham is a great guy. Despite his readiness for a party I have never seen him either under the weather or not in full control of his situation. I hope he gets Silver Dollar up and running same as Lone Star. I will have 2 places to switch back and forth between on my next trip to Cebu. Woo hoo,
Dear all.
One of my friends in Cebu City needs has a financial problem and needs urgently a friend. She is a working student, studies some afternoons and works in the evening. She is not a pro and very beautiful and accomondating. Please send me a PM if you are interested. You will not regret, promise!
Sumart
First of all I want to say thanks to all of you good people on here, I've been reading for months on here before my first trip to cebu (or asia for that matter).
I really fell for the place, but a strange thing happend there. Had one last night to spend there and after being out all day I return to my room, and find that there was missing 5000 peso. But the strange thing is that I had 15 000 in my backpack together, and it was only 5000 missing. Anybody else had this happen?
It just dosnt make any sence to me, either take it all or don't take! Don't mess with my head! But I had room cleaning that day, and a girl I had living with me for 3 days (met on dia) , but she come back the same night after I got at the hotel, like we planned. Hmm. So I'm just asking you guys if this is normal here?
And again, thanks for all the tips and everything, it made things easier for me there!
Member #4491
04-26-11, 23:09
This girl is sweet. I met her a couple of times and she needs money badly.
Please be nice to her. She has a sweet personality. Not a pro so do not expect porn star performance, but she likes sex. Cheap Charlie best stay away since she needs cash and not more guys fucking her life up.
http://www.dateinasia.com/miss.beautiful.html
She is pretty realistic but no need to complicate things by mentioning ISG or me.
/B
Dear all.
One of my friends in Cebu City needs has a financial problem and needs urgently a friend. She is a working student, studies some afternoons and works in the evening. She is not a pro and very beautiful and accomondating. Please send me a PM if you are interested. You will not regret, promise!
SumartHi I am in cebu now, but can not pm you not sure what I can do I paid my membership but there was a problem
Ron
WestCoast1
04-27-11, 18:50
This girl is sweet. I met her a couple of times and she needs money badly.
Please be nice to her. She has a sweet personality. Not a pro so do not expect porn star performance, but she likes sex. Cheap Charlie best stay away since she needs cash and not more guys fucking her life up.
http://www.dateinasia.com/miss.beautiful.html
She is pretty realistic but no need to complicate things by mentioning ISG or me.
/BBarba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.
There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:
Her: 500! 500?
Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.
Her: 2000!
Me: what?
Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!
I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).
How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it).
Hi I am in cebu now, but can not pm you not sure what I can do I paid my membership but there was a problem
RonI also cannot send you a PM. Please pay the fee
Member #4491
04-27-11, 21:26
What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000?.Westcoast1, your right. It is just as unclear for you, as it is for me. I am not sure exactly what I was trying to say. Maybe an attempt to filter out all the pocket wanking, semi alcoholic, broke slobs that most likely will be the first to spam her. I tend to overpay girls sometimes, and sometimes I "only" pay 500. The girl I linked to will of course like 2000 but she also needs 500, so it is up for negotiation. For me 500 or 2000 makes little difference. I am not insinuating that anyone here can not afford 2000, but I never was able to relate to the idea of helping financially weaker people to get laid. I do not see how it relates to me. If I spend 2000-5000 a night in a hotel, I can just as well spend another 1500-2000 on a girl if I feel she deserves it. If I need to cut down, I do it on the hotel and not on the girls "taxi money". If this means that next man can not afford to fuck her, it is not my problem. He will most likely not afford the hotel either, and this never seems to be an issue. In a sense most men on the globe share the hobby discussed here on ISG, and it is unreasonable to assume that we are all connected and should attend some sort of pricing loyalty to every man trying to get laid. Pricing monopoly never did appeal to me in any form. I find the principles of supply and demand to be a cornerstone of any functioning economy. So to appeal to my kind heart for support for the next broke monger will not be wisely invested time. But I agree that I can be clearer if I do bother to post referrals her.
As for getting mad at the monger that referred the girl to you, in my humble opinion I think a monger should negotiate the price himself always. He tried to help you and her. Setting the price for any deal, is up to the two parts involved, unless you paid him as a broker or if there was a prior understanding that he deviated from.
I will remember your advice Westcoast1 and indicate a pricing level in any further referrals I might post.
In any case, anyone interested could always try with 300 peso and then move upwards. I do not know if this would make me or her feel more humiliated if I tried this, but who knows, maybe she is desperate enough to fuck someone for 300 pesos. Maybe the supply of teenage pussy is in such an abundance.
Regardless of the price, guys please do not be too tough on her. She was just born in the wrong spot on this globe, and apart from that she is a sweet girl that is trying very hard to keep her younger sisters from walking in her footsteps.
Al the best,
Barba
Barba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.
There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:
Her: 500! 500?
Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.
Her: 2000!
Me: what?
Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!
I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).
How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it). WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P? Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.
I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?
I have lived and worked here almost four years and most of these girls are very poor and meet us because they really need the money.
Robb
Barba, gents. I'm going to muddy the water a bit. Regarding the passing of girl's information, phone numbers, dating contacts, etc. Reference Barba's post, and others who have posted that this girl or that girl is looking for some help (thanks, the members appreciate that, and the girl also). Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.
There can be some confusion and misunderstanding about what the girl's expectation is."Cheap Charlie best stay away." What does that mean? Last year a board member passed me the YM and phone number of a student in Cebu when I was visiting. Another student who needed help. A quick chat in YM and she was at the hotel 90 minutes later. A typical 3-hour afternoon session followed. While she was in the bathroom dressing to leave, I put a p500-note in her purse (never had a cebuena complain at that amount, most smile and kiss my cheek on the way out; then offer a repeat or a cousin). When she said "you pay me now" I told her it was in her purse. She took it out and this angry thing ensued:
Her: 500! 500?
Me: yes. Its what I give to all the girls.
Her: 2000!
Me: what?
Her: yes your friend always give 2000. I have exam fee tomorrow!
I told her that she should have clarified in advance her expectation. Actually I was steaming mad at the board member for not having told me. I tossed her an extra p500 to attempt to avoid an extended argument. She left angry still. Right away I PM'd him here to ask about it. He replied later that yes, he liked to spoil the girls, and no, he was unaware that they would work for 500 on a ST. He said the girl had also sent him an angry txt (understandably).
How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is? It behooves us, I think, as recipients of this information (myself) , to clarify with the giver, or the girl, her expectation. What does Barba's comment about "Cheap Charlie" mean? 300? 500? 1000? 2000? 5000? Really it represents spoilage on the part of the college girl when she insisted no 2000 pesos for a few hours work (she's used to others paying it). While on a holiday to Boracay Island, PI last year, a waitress in a bar on the beach balked at a 500p tip after my
Wingman and I had lunch, hilarious! I think if we'd have been seriously drinking at that point in the day, things
Really could have gotten ugly fast, punches might have been thrown. Next time I'll have to make a point of visiting
Cebu.
As a matter of advice to new forum members, (like myself) , Boracay is not a good spot for mongering, (we took
Girls with us and it was still mildly disastrous). My guess is most more experienced mongers would not go to
Boracay, and if they did, would only take a girl or two who had more than proven themselves. Very beautiful place
Though, although, there doesn't appear to be many spots in the Visayas that aren't beautiful landscapes.
I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?
I would give 500-700 depending on attitude myself 700 they had a good attitude there not working girls there just trying to make a bit on the side
I really fell for the place, but a strange thing happend there. Had one last night to spend there and after being out all day I return to my room, and find that there was missing 5000 peso. But the strange thing is that I had 15 000 in my backpack together, and it was only 5000 missing. Anybody else had this happen?No it is not a normal thing in Cebu to have your money stash pinched. But that is the M O employees use not to get noticed. Many times it works especially if the guest has been in party mode. In your case, you gave the unscrupulous employee an opportunity because you never secured your stash. How about giving us the name of the hotel?
It is a pity you cannot write a short FR about your perspective on the delights of Cebu. It is the best way to give back to the board!
How the F*CK does an experienced board member not know what the going rate is?There are a few different rates. Locals pay 500 and expat residents a bit more. But short term visitors cannot expect to get that same rate. Just like most everywhere in the Philippines, travelers are looked upon as being rich and will always pay accordingly.
I also cannot send you a PM. Please pay the feeI have already payed the fee, but Jackson does not want to seem to fix the problem.
WestCoast1
04-28-11, 01:53
WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P?
RobbActually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).
On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?
Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.
Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.
Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).
Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:
Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.
I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.
Robb, what do you give them? Other gents?
No it is not a normal thing in Cebu to have your money stash pinched. But that is the M O employees use not to get noticed. Many times it works especially if the guest has been in party mode. In your case, you gave the unscrupulous employee an opportunity because you never secured your stash. How about giving us the name of the hotel?I understand that money gets stolen, but only take some? That is the part I don't get. The hotel? I rather not say since I don't know if its the girl or the hotel, hope you'll understand that.
I'm a newbie in this world, but I've been to a few stip clubs and got some fun out of it. But this was my first time in asia! So be nice with me!
I only had one pro, and I went to the silver dollar, and I had only my left leg inside the place when one of the dancers yelled: gwapo, fuck me please!
I'm not used to that, so I didn't respond and just went in and sat down. To girls were showing of thier "stuff" but had to dance, when one lady sat down and talked like a woman to me, I liked it, so I bought her a drink, then after awhile I asked if I could take her home and it was ok, and she said "best BJ in town" so I was sold! LOL, it was'nt the best, but she was nice the whole night so. But then I met a non pro on dia, I kinda fell for her, but now I realize it was the place (I could have had my sister in a swinsuit on a white beach and going to the tops, and it would have been special!) remember: frist time in asia!) but she told me thing that just didn't add up, like she only had one bf in her life and never gave had, but gave head better then the older chick at silver dollar! And other stuff.
But all in all, it won't be long till I'll be back in ph, if I can only get over the fact that every body lies!
Buts its fine if you only go for sex, but I had hoped for more, but I'll settel for the "one night love fest" too.
Hairy Wonder
04-28-11, 04:20
Also Hairy Wonder posted today in the Chatroom / Penpal section something similar, saying a girl insisted on p5000.WC.
Thanks for mentioning me in your post (I love seeing my name in lights). :D But I don't recall posting anything like that. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else that posted something about that.
I still think the amount given to the girl is up to the individual, and how he feels the session went. Personally, I think I would have simply told the girl that she could take the 500p and get out, or give it back and still get out. If price was not discussed before the deed, then she needs to be happy with what she gets. 500p for 3 hours is more than most filipinos will earn for a full day's work, or possibly even a full week.
HW
WC, I normally agree with you, but this time I feel you are way off mark. You really expect these girls to fuck you for three+ hours for 500P? Maybe 500P for a SW who has 5 guys a day, but for a student who is trying to better herself and selling her body is the only way to do that.
I could understand 500P tip if you had paid the barfine, but 500P all in?
I have lived and worked here almost four years and most of these girls are very poor and meet us because they really need the money.
RobbI am with Robb on this one, and I agree that 500 is under the odds. This is just my opinion. I never lecture anyone about what they should do or not do. We have to live with the consequences of whatever we do.
I believe 1500 php is a fair amount for short term activity, and especially for students who are desperately trying to put enough cash together for fees without even factoring in their need to eat as well.
I have never paid under 1500 in any P4P activity anywhere (except for most DIA or other meetings where there is no expectation of cash exchange).
I ALWAYS offer transport fees, as I believe that anyone should not be out of pocket for going to the trouble to meet me. I know some guys probably think women should pay them for the privilege of being f*ked by them but I don't happen to feel like that.
I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.
Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT.
Actually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).
On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?
Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.
Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.
I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).
Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:
Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.
I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.
Robb, what do you give them? Other gents? Thanks for the reply and I normally tip 1000P plus taxi if I paid the barfine and I tip 2000P plus taxi if it is a student that I did not meet in the bar. I do not feel like I am spoiling the market, I feel like they deserve that, but I have put girls out with 100P trike fare for trying to pull bullshit on me.
When the time comes that I cannot afford to pay what I feel is right, I guess that I will stop mongering. I am 45 years old and I and retired military and when I was younger in the military with wife and two kids I could not afford to monger like I do now. But now I am retired and have a great job, single and out of debt, I can monger all I like and it is up to me what I tip and who I see and I respect your same rights, but what I don't like is when guys post that 500P is normal and newbies read that and think they can do the same.
Robb
WC.
Thanks for mentioning me in your post (I love seeing my name in lights). . But I don't recall posting anything like that. Perhaps you have me confused with someone else that posted something about that.
I still think the amount given to the girl is up to the individual, and how he feels the session went. Personally, I think I would have simply told the girl that she could take the 500p and get out, or give it back and still get out. If price was not discussed before the deed, then she needs to be happy with what she gets. 500p for 3 hours is more than most filipinos will earn for a full day's work, or possibly even a full week.
HWI agree with your statement that it is up to the individual, but you are way off the mark on local pay. We employee over 450 locals and maybe you are correct in some and that is very few make 500P a week.
So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?
Robb
RK and Robbaff always have good advice. The only thing I can add is if you see a girl you like and don't want to pay the bar fine give her your number and have her meet you at your hotel after she gets off work. This has worked for me several times now. I'd rather give her the money than the bar. Plus it's nice being woken up in the middle of the night by a sexy sweet thing.
If anyone can verify that Maya is back at the Silver Dollar kindly let me know! She is a treasure!
I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.
Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT.
As much as I love good ole Robbaf, I'll go with WC on this one. WC numbers are really the low end for me but since I usually look for a good GFE, I'll tip much higher. I've had an absolutely wild one (from a bar) who danced with me at Julianas until 3am and still generated enough good lovin to give me two very enjoyable sessions and some great photographs. She was tipped well.
A week later, after I returned from Moalboal, she seemed to have some menstrual problems so offerred me her older sis. A new gal. Sis was a dead fk, left early despite promises, and was tipped nothing. I assumed this would hurt my chances with littler sister, but not so.
Actually, yes. I've had dozens of cebuanas. Exclude barfine girls (ie Vikings, etc) for a moment (will come back to them). I've been giving that amount for some time. After, most girls give me their number and ask for repeats. They offer a friend for the same amount. They desire to do it again when I'm back 6 months later (same price). If the price is too low that I'm offering, why are they returning? Further, another day following the incident mentioned, I was hit upon in the late morning by two girls in Ayala mall. They agreed to 1000 total and were happy with it (pics posted I think on the board). Later in the afternoon I was beset by two ladies in Robinson's, who were happy with the same price (500 ea).
On my last trip to Cebu, except for barfines, I gave every ST 500 and LT 1000. Except for the young lady mentioned, everyone was happy. One of my LT was a college girl met in DIA, happy with 1000 + Bo's coffee-and-muffin the next morning (gave me her number at Bo's, hopes a repeat). How is that coed any different than the girl who wanted 2000 for ST?
Back to the barfine girls. When I pay p1700, she stays LT and gets p1000 from my barfine. That's no different than getting p500 for ST.
Col, I'm with you. Giving trike / jeep money tip of 1-200 is fine.
I'm pretty sure there is no diffference in a SW and a college girl and a bargirl. They all offer the same service. I can't imagine one being more deserving of the money than another (but, I've been wrong before).
Its also possible that prices are simply going up over time. On the other hand, giving a cebuana 2000 for a ST is spoilage (as the board member who gave me her number admitted). Thats twice what is given in Manila. Unless prices have changed, excluding barfine girls:
Manila: 1000 ST / 1500 LT. Outside Manila, subtract 500.
I'm not trying to cheap charlie. Routine spoilage, on the other hand, is to be avoided. My true cheap-charlie side is that I only tip for tryke.
Robb, what do you give them? Other gents?
WestCoast1
04-28-11, 17:24
Silver Dollar, Red Lips, and Viking, and Amigos on on my list of places to visit. I assume these are go go type bars where a barfine is paid. Assuming a bf of about 1500p (that seems awfully high) how much do you tip the girls for ST and LT. I often prefer ST over LT.Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.
WestCoast1
04-28-11, 19:16
I am with Robb on this one, and I agree that 500 is under the odds. This is just my opinion. I never lecture anyone about what they should do or not do. We have to live with the consequences of whatever we do.
I believe 1500 php is a fair amount for short term activity, and especially for students who are desperately trying to put enough cash together for fees without even factoring in their need to eat as well.
I have never paid under 1500 in any P4P activity anywhere (except for most DIA or other meetings where there is no expectation of cash exchange).
I ALWAYS offer transport fees, as I believe that anyone should not be out of pocket for going to the trouble to meet me. I know some guys probably think women should pay them for the privilege of being f*ked by them but I don't happen to feel like that. RK, thanks. Its possible I'm just paying under the going rate and have been lucky. Its also possible you are paying more than necessary (which is a gent's privilege). Paying 1500 for ST is fine, but its 500 more than the going rate for FL in malls and bars in Manila. Cebu being a metropolis, its possible that expenses there have risen and are similar to Manila now. Its possible prices are up also in Manila. I may just up my donation by an extra 500 everywhere.
When I was in Manila last, I got hit on by a girl in the mall (age 19). We did the ST thing in my room. After the first pop as we are sitting on the bed chatting, I asked if she did this often. She said yes, its how she pays for her college, her family can't afford it. She pays 3000 several times a semester to take tests, plus other expenses for her schooling. I asked flat out if she picked up 3 guys each month to pay for it. She said more often than that because she has other expenses. She also said its hard to find guys in the mall and she has to spend many afternoons there looking. It was an interesting look into the manila co-ed mind. Her friends do this too, they are afraid to show themselves in MBC, so they troll malls in the afternoon. After the (rare for me) second pop I put p1000+100 taxi on the bed. She smiled and gave me her number and left. So, how is this girl any different than the angry cebuena who wanted p2000? The angry cebuana is banging one guy foreigner for her full tuition payment? While the gal in manila is ok hammering 4-5 (and for much less)? I would maintain that if the cebuena is getting more for her service than the manila girls, anything more (the extra 1000) is spoilage. Also, given her angry response and her words, one can assume that she's used to this level of pay, while the manila gal is also used to this level of pay. If this is true, then only the gents payng the cebuana are responsible for this (its not the girl's fault she's being spoiled). A gent will pay whatever he will pay.
I thought I would also enter the interesting debate about how much we pay girls. I rarely use bar girls and I tend to stick to DIA for most of my encounters so I have just elaborated in that area only.
I always pay 1000 for short time, irrespective. I feel that 500 is a bit on the low side but then a lot of girls on DIA are not students (despite what they put on their profile) and even 500 is quite a bit of money to someone who has nothing in the first place.
I don't pay for cabs out of the 1000 as I know the vast majority of girls use jeepneys or trikes and I feel 1000 is a fair but not excessive price. RK I see you pay 1500 minimum and though I personally think that is a bit on the high side for a couple of hours of sex, I don't think you are wrong either, you pay what you feel is appropriate.
I have negotiated with girls at Ayalla and Robinsons who have invariably wanted 1000 for short time but have let themselves be bargained down to 500 which they have been willing and seemingly happy to accept. When I first started my mongering in Cebu several years ago, I met a cute DIA girl who came to my hotel. I was very new in the Philppines, had her stay for only an hour and paid her 500 (based on my rather too intimate knowledge of Thai prices). She never complained (characteristically of Pinays) but she refused to see me again when I called a few days later. Since I am not hugely overweight, smelly or too gross to look at, I can only imagine it was the amount of money that I paid her, that made her unwilling to join me for a second session (or maybe it was my enormous manhood!).
If I meet DIA girls (as I do frequently) then I always give them at least 200 just for meeting me for a coffee or ice cream, if I decide to send them back home because they are not what I expected. I have also been stung on a few occasions for the Jollibees with extended hungry families accompanying the girl but that is a whole new topic on its own. I once met a DIA girl and her two cousins and was disappointed with all three of them when we met up in person. I gave them 300 to go and get some ice cream as I made my excuses to leave and they seemed truly delighted with the gesture.
I once posted about an encounter I had with an 18 year old DIA student girl a few years ago, we met and had sex for a couple of hours. I paid her 1000 with no additional taxi fares or tips and she later texted me to say how generous I was and how she could now afford to buy her sister's baby some formula milk with the money I had given her. She was keen to meet me again and texted me dozens of time over the following week though I was not really interested.
I don't often use girls for long time as I already have a couple of steady long term gf's in Cebu and rely on them if I want a longer term companion but I would not give a girl more than 1500 for long time since I would also be paying for meals / movie / disco / drinks. Etc.
There are no hard and fast rules and I don't think we should get hung up on prices too much. The biggest problem with this issue is that the girls themselves will rarely tell you how much they want, even when pressed. Hard core hookers will have no problem quoting prices to you but most DIA girls including semi pros do not like to say and will not say what they expect to receive by way of compensation for opening their legs.
This is a cultural thing and psychologically the girls feel less of a hooker when they don't ask for money, they will often say "its up to you" when you ask how much they want. The only trouble with this is that is can and does lead to exploitation, by men who take advantage of the situation and don't pay them anything or very little (and I don't include the ones that pay 500 for short time with this label)
Anyway only another two months to go before I am back once again in Cebu and I just can't wait. I feel myself growing hard just thinking of what is waiting for me.
I understand that money gets stolen, but only take some? That is the part I don't get. The hotel? I rather not say since I don't know if its the girl or the hotel, hope you'll understand that....I do understand it very well. When I was teenager I sometimes nicked a 100 or two from my fathers wallet for partymoney, but never more than 15. 20 % of what was in it. If I have taken everything he would noticed it immidiately, all hell would have broke loose and no party for me. Guess you would have done the same if all your cash was gone. So she? Probably thougth you wouldn't notice only taking some.
WestCoast1
04-28-11, 19:39
I'll be in Cebu for the first time in about 6 weeks and I find the tipping discussion interesting. 500p is less than US$12 and to me seems a little light even in a third world country. Call me weak but if the FL put up a fuss after I paid 500p, I would give her more money if I enjoyed the session. But I wouldn't criticize anybody for paying that if he chooses.When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it.
Allover, to your numbers. $12 is light. So $20 is better. I'm ok with that. Assume that the girls are willing to work for $2, and you are just unaware of it. Then $20 spoils. So does $12. I think what we have in the examples below with myself and RK and others is just that. I'm easily getting p500 (they ask to return, and offer friends). RK is paying 1500. The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.
Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts?
WestCoast1
04-28-11, 19:53
Thanks for the reply and I normally tip 1000P plus taxi if I paid the barfine and I tip 2000P plus taxi if it is a student that I did not meet in the bar. I do not feel like I am spoiling the market, I feel like they deserve that, but I have put girls out with 100P trike fare for trying to pull bullshit on me.
When the time comes that I cannot afford to pay what I feel is right, I guess that I will stop mongering. I am 45 years old and I and retired military and when I was younger in the military with wife and two kids I could not afford to monger like I do now. But now I am retired and have a great job, single and out of debt, I can monger all I like and it is up to me what I tip and who I see and I respect your same rights, but what I don't like is when guys post that 500P is normal and newbies read that and think they can do the same.
RobbWe'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.
Member #4491
04-28-11, 21:41
Not all hammers look alike.
Some hammers are very stylish and used to laying in the hands of Korean four-four-fours. Others considers themselves the hammers of hammers, needing a lot of motivation to work. And some do not know their true value at all and will work those nails almost for free.
This debate have influenced me. I will try to pay less in the future. My heart is to soft and I like to be liked. In addition I am always strapped for time and I handle rejection bad. I just HAVE to have whatever girl I want, in my bedroom within 1 hour. But maybe I can have this in 90% of the cases, even if I do not pay 1500 or 2000. Maybe it is not necessary to overpay to get that responsiveness from girls. The future will tell if a modified pricing strategy will leave me with last years leftovers.
So I will do as the gentleman that stated that 1000 PHP is a benchmark to start from.
If she performs 50, she gets 1000 * 0, 5 = 500 PHP.
If she on the other hand, breaks my expectations by +50, she will get 1500.
Maybe we cracked this pricing mystery?
"Taxi Money" = 1000 * performance coefficient
Spain tomorrow and the SEA in 3 weeks again. Can't wait.
Barba
When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it.
Allover, to your numbers. $12 is light. So $20 is better. I'm ok with that. Assume that the girls are willing to work for $2, and you are just unaware of it. Then $20 spoils. So does $12. I think what we have in the examples below with myself and RK and others is just that. I'm easily getting p500 (they ask to return, and offer friends). RK is paying 1500. The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.
Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.
Robb
We'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.Haha I agree to disagree, but using hammers for pussy does not fit this discussion.
Robb
I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.
To do so in expectation of a certain price for the job is wage labour, all the augment is about the cost, not the reality of a buyer and a seller for sex between consenting adults
I do understand it very well. When I was teenager I sometimes nicked a 100 or two from my fathers wallet for partymoney, but never more than 15. 20 % of what was in it. If I have taken everything he would noticed it immidiately, all hell would have broke loose and no party for me. Guess you would have done the same if all your cash was gone. So she? Probably thougth you wouldn't notice only taking some.I never looked at it that way. Guess your right, no matter who is was. But anyways, after spending 3 weeks there I think the best advice I got before going was this: just leave you brain at home, cause most things arnt going to make sence!
Wich looking at it now was true, from how I'm used to doing things and all. But I loved the place so I'm eager to get back and have some red horse again!
We'll have to agree to disagree. An example. Two guys are on the same streetcorner selling identical hammers. Overhead is the same. One guy sells for p500, the other for p1500. Anyone buying the p1500 hammer is spoiling the market, encouraging the lower-priced seller to raise his prices. Hopefully the lower-priced seller puts the higher-priced seller out of business or to lower his price. Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.If you want quality, other then just masturbating in a woman's vagina, just treat the lady right and show her the princess that she is, I ve been living in cebu for the past few months, traveled to more then 40 countries, a big piece of my heart is in the Phils. The people, the country is just amazing. If you want shabu pussy for 500 pesos it s available anywhere. You want a gf, just pay the price and stop whining. I am the one that brings the prices up and always pay 3k. Sometimes more for a virgin ass. DIA selection is ok, Gate number 3 is a good line up more then 80 girls at the time, Amigos is happening for me, hooked up with Jana the ladyboy make up artiist. He knows all the girls and been there for over a year. Mongering? Come on guys. What is it to you to spend an extra 20 USD. Treat them right. You will get so much in return. Meet the family. Fuck the cousins. Buy a washing machine. A water heater. The whole province will talk about you. Jackson I love you man, just weed out the cheap charlies.
WC is right. It could be hammers, rice or fish. Simply, supply and demand. Both a pro and a college girl in Colon are 500p ST. Some are a much better experience than a Barfined Bargirl@
1700p and up.
You just have to make more effort than sitting on a barstool. Plus, loose your illusion some college girl is only fucking you or us! (overweight middle aged / old white guys). LOL.
I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.
To do so in expectation of a certain price for the job is wage labour, all the augment is about the cost, not the reality of a buyer and a seller for sex between consenting adults
Stroker Ace88
04-29-11, 02:07
Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.I have heard that the Viking Group of bars has increased the barfine to 1800P, which IMHO is still the lowest all-in price for some of the best looking girls on Mango but pre-payment turns alot of the girls into runners.
The old Silver Dollar always had a barfine of 750P and up to you to work out a deal with the girl on price ST or LT and most of the girls were happy with 1500P +tip LT not sure if the new Silver Dollar has adopted the more expensive Lone Star all-in barfine of 2800P LT.
Anyone know if the new Silver Dollar adds 10p "Mayors Tax" onto the bill for every drink order like Lone Star? Which is the most in-your-face way of saying that Graham refuses to pay the kickbacks directly, and that we, the mongering public shall do our share and contribute for him. Now if only I can figure out a way to get a "Major Major contributor to the Mayor's re-election campaign" card out of the deal to keep CITOM from giving me 50P jaywalking tickets I will be all set.
I have heard that the Viking Group of bars has increased the barfine to 1800P, which IMHO is still the lowest all-in price for some of the best looking girls on Mango but pre-payment turns alot of the girls into runners.
The old Silver Dollar always had a barfine of 750P and up to you to work out a deal with the girl on price ST or LT and most of the girls were happy with 1500P +tip LT not sure if the new Silver Dollar has adopted the more expensive Lone Star all-in barfine of 2800P LT.
Anyone know if the new Silver Dollar adds 10p "Mayors Tax" onto the bill for every drink order like Lone Star? Which is the most in-your-face way of saying that Graham refuses to pay the kickbacks directly, and that we, the mongering public shall do our share and contribute for him. Now if only I can figure out a way to get a "Major Major contributor to the Mayor's re-election campaign" card out of the deal to keep CITOM from giving me 50P jaywalking tickets I will be all set. Ye it does, had a drink in there yesterday and was asked for the extra 10pso
When I first arrived on the scene in phils some years ago, I quickly hit on a few FL in manila and was happily forking over $50 for a ST. I met up with a board member at LA Cafe one evening, and he said,"Whata 'ya nuts? The girls will ST for 1/4 that price!" At that time he was right. I had no idea. In my young mind, $50 was great. In my young mind. If everyone starts paying $50, then the average price rises quickly, forcing others to do it. . . . . . . . . . . . .
Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? This is a great, civilized discussion. I think all of us are deferring to another guy's judgement and accepting it for what it is, and that's great.
WC. I truly can see where you are coming from and your analysis and justification for how much you pay etc is very well set-out and I understand your rationale.
Maybe 1500php is on the high side? But I must add that I am VERY choosy about who I spend time with and at the end of the day it makes me feel that I have not just taken advantage of the girl. More importantly, I pay 1500 php because I can. I can also stress that I virtually never go over 1500php.
Recently in Cafe Havana in Manila a girl joined me at my table and told me she wanted 3000 php ST. I just shrugged and said that 1500 is my limit so maybe she should just go back to her girlfriends because I will not pay that much. After maybe 5 minutes of sitting there silently she said "OK. 1500 is fine".
I guess this story supports your rationale WC.
I also think that at the end of the day, we can all pay whatever we want without the market being too disturbed. But I also think that an ESSENTIAL factor is that you must discuss a "price" before you head off to Stage 2.
Hairy Wonder
04-29-11, 04:45
I agree with your statement that it is up to the individual, but you are way off the mark on local pay. We employee over 450 locals and maybe you are correct in some and that is very few make 500P a week.
So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?
RobbI may not know what the current income levels are for filipinos, that is true. But what an individual does to earn a living is up to them. If a girl chooses to earn "easy money" by spreading her legs rather than working a normal job, that is her choice. Why should she be paid more to give up her pussy to foreigners than another gets paid to provide any other kind of service?
Let's face it, a big reason many guys monger in the Philippines is because it is cheaper than doing so in other countries. As the price demanded by the girls keeps going up, mongers will begin looking in other places for the cheap pussy. 25 years ago in Korea, a ST was $10 US and LT was $20 US or less. But bar fines are generally $200 to $300 US now. Because of this, many guys pass on the Korean pussy, save their money, and go to the Philippines or Thailand for much more pussy in a week at the same amount they would spend for one night in Korea.
On the discussion of why the girl needs the money, I don't care! Any of them can tell you that they need to pay their school fees. But are you certain, without a doubt, that they are telling you the truth. We all know that many of these girls are experts at pulling scams on guys to get more money.
Again I say pay what you feel is right for you to pay. If anybody else feels that it is low or high, who cares?
The angry cebuana getting 2000 is clearly spoiled.
Also I'm noticing something else. I just didn't catch it before if it was discussed. While I view a girl as a girl, some of the gents see a need to pay different girls a different amount. A SW deserves less than a college girl? How is a cebuana college girl worth 1500/2000 for ST, while the AC bargirl will get p750 for LT? I'm paying for her to bring the fun, then leave. I don't care about her personal life (usually). Thoughts? First off you keep comparing Cebuanas to their counterparts in Manila or AC. They have a different mindset and language among other things. You don't give enough credit to your coed who merely sized you up and charged accordingly. You were probably staying at the Parklane or similar. It is a fact that the going rate for foreigners is somewhere between 1000 and 2000. If you don't believe me, try going to one of the pick up discos and see how far you get.
Another point not touched on is beauty, real or perceived. Sure you can get away with offering average looking Cebuanas a nominal fee but more attractive ones will command a premium.
Unfortunately, the dating site girls don't advertise on the street.Yes just as the real beauties don't mess with the internet!
Chocha Monger
04-29-11, 05:48
Westcoast1 has a point. Pussy isn't intellectual. He's paying the market rate for a pussy to poke. From his point of view he could care less if the pussy can write a doctoral dissertation on quantum physics. The mechanics are the same. The end result is the same. Why pay more than the going rate? Employers don't pay employees according to their individual financial obligations. The really is no justification for paying a college girl more for doing the same job that a girl fresh off a provincial pig farm can do just as well. There is no guarantee that a college girl services less clients than her less educated counterpart. In fact, college girls usually see a lot more cock because of their greater appetite for consumer goods and high end electronics. If Westcoast1 gets pussy for 500 pesos and the girls happily repeat and give referrals does that make him a bad guy? At the end of the day all mongers are enticing these girls to sell pussy instead of finding some other less sordid means of earning a living. Paying inflated prices to soothe one's conscience hardly makes one more moral than the monger paying the market rate even though it might give a false sense of righteousness.
If one truly feels rooting the girls for a bargain is wrong then he should establish a trust along the lines of The Virgin Filipina College Fund. This would eliminate the need for the girls spreading their legs for foreign lechers altogether giving donors a stalwart moral soap box from which to crow at flesh mongers. Otherwise it's downright hypocrisy to chastise your fellow swine while swilling from the same trough.
Key Master
04-29-11, 09:05
In regards to how much to leave them with, it's always going to be a debate. To say that all the women are the same wherever you meet them to me is a crock. Also, you probably should consider the situation. Some women are definitely looking for some support and some women are looking for fun. You have to know who you are dealing with, and that usually goes with common sense.
I see danger for the people who offer very little support for said services, but that is up to them. I can't see myself offering up 500 pesos for 3 hours of whatever, but that's me. At the minimum for me would probably be 800 pesos but more likely 1000 pesos. You have to live with yourself after wards. You are in another country and don't have the same protections and are somewhat easy to pick out. Sure you can probably get away with it and feel like you know what's up. I can't possibly do that. I don't want to be looking behind me constantly worrying about some type of retaliation.
WestCoast1
04-29-11, 15:53
Gents, thanks for the discussion.
Not all hammers look alike.
Some hammers are very stylish and used to laying in the hands of Korean four-four-fours. Others considers themselves the hammers of hammers, needing a lot of motivation to work. The girl to stay away from?
And some do not know their true value at all and will work those nails almost for free.The girl to run to.
This debate have influenced me. I will try to pay less in the future. My heart is to soft and I like to be liked. In addition I am always strapped for time and I handle rejection bad. I just HAVE to have whatever girl I want, in my bedroom within 1 hour.Yes. Your unique situational needs may require a higher price. Its not fair to compare Barba's need with mine. I have plenty of time to look for playmates. I'm not as choosy. The '9'-stunner will not get more from me than the '7'-so-so girl because of her looks (although, one of them might get more later if her service is above-par).
But maybe I can have this in 90% of the cases, even if I do not pay 1500 or 2000. Maybe it is not necessary to overpay to get that responsiveness from girls. The future will tell if a modified pricing strategy will leave me with last years leftovers.
So I will do as the gentleman that stated that 1000 PHP is a benchmark to start from. The debate has influenced me also. Maybe I'm paying too little. Maybe inflation of foods and fuel drive up the ladies overhead. Maybe 1000 is a good starting point.
WestCoast1
04-29-11, 17:21
I understand what you are saying about a girl is a girl, but IMO if you pick up a SW that is on drugs and fucking 10 guys a day, to me that is different then a college that may only fuck you.
RobbApology for mentioning SW before. I only mentioned them to compare with bargirls and college girls and hammers to make the point that they are similar in product nature.
I've never taken any of the girls from the Junquera streets (although I got from outside Robinsons). Several of you have referred to these girls that are being rented and banging a lot of guys. While this is not my cup of tea usually, I think there might be a perception that those are the ones willing to take the 500. Let me dispel that. My girls are DIA contacts, mall rats, barfines from Vikings area, or Sunflower pickups. Vikings-area girls are getting 1000 from the bar for LT. Thats roughly the same as 500 for ST. Aside from barfines, all the rest are happy (except the previously mentioned angry college kid) with 500 ST / 1000 LT. Many are DIA college girls. 1000+100jeep in the morning gets a txt later in the day asking for a repeat, or offering a friends. Nobody rolls their eyes or asks more.
Robb, you mentioned about the SW / college kid thing. We just disagree. Your assumption is that the college girl isn't getting banged a lot like the SW. Maybe very rarely even. Its possible. I have an insight about this, and I will try to PM several of you about this. More likely, she has a real local bf that she is into (she won't mention it to you, even though you are honest and she knows you take other girls for similar) and she is banging him most days (and, true to form, the bf is humping other girls behind her back). She may also have several sugardaddies such as yourself who she will bang in the week prior to her 'exam fee'. By golly, if all 4-5 of you sugardaddies give her the 2500 or 3000 she's asking for, she's made 10-15, 000. She will pay the 3000 exam fee, and her months rent + expenses, take her bf out for drinks, and hand him 2000 because she's "in lab to him". To all of her sugardaddies she will appear to be the sweet co-ed who "don't do this much". Is she that shy college kid who don't do this much? Or does she have multiple sugardaddies-and-bf, where she's getting jiz 20 times a month? Unless you have her followed, you and I have no clue. She is little different than the SW, except she is displaying mental acuity in class.
WestCoast1
04-29-11, 18:54
First off you keep comparing Cebuanas to their counterparts in Manila or AC. They have a different mindset and language among other things.And different overhead. Its more expensive to live in Manila than AC or Cebu. Say 800 to a mallgirl in Manila and get laughed at. Say 1000 and she's your new gf. Subtract 500 from that in Cebu. The comparison is legit.
You don't give enough credit to your coed, You were probably staying at the Parklane or similar.Diplomat Hotel in Fuente, which she knew.
It is a fact that the going rate for foreigners is somewhere between 1000 and 2000. If you don't believe me, try going to one of the pick up discos and see how far you get.Julianas and Mango bars? Probably you are right. 1500-2000 is going to be asked or expected. All the more reason not to take from there. A board member PM'd recently that he'd taken from Sunflower an overnighter, gave her p1500 and she was fine.
Another point not touched on is beauty, real or perceived. Sure you can get away with offering average looking Cebuanas a nominal fee but more attractive ones will command a premium.
Yes just as the real beauties don't mess with the internet! Usually. In a recent post I mentioned a DIA student who was glad to have 1000 for an overnighter."Salamat po," and a request for a repeat. A looker. That may be luck, or desperation.
WestCoast1
04-29-11, 19:04
Come on guys. What is it to you to spend an extra 20 USD. Treat them right.Doing that a lot, creates spoilage. The girls will raise their prices. Treat her right, pay her taxi, or buy her a meal.
You will get so much in return. Meet the family. Fuck the cousins. Buy a washing machine. A water heater. The whole province will talk about you.That's fine for gents living in town. The board is for visitors, to. Especially regular contributors. Post a pic for us, my lurking friend. A field report, too, will make you believable.
Jackson I love you man, just weed out the cheap charlies.Hey Cheapy, he wants to silence you. I think the term is authoritarian.
I may not know what the current income levels are for filipinos, that is true. But what an individual does to earn a living is up to them. If a girl chooses to earn "easy money" by spreading her legs rather than working a normal job, that is her choice. Why should she be paid more to give up her pussy to foreigners than another gets paid to provide any other kind of service?
Let's face it, a big reason many guys monger in the Philippines is because it is cheaper than doing so in other countries. As the price demanded by the girls keeps going up, mongers will begin looking in other places for the cheap pussy. 25 years ago in Korea, a ST was $10 US and LT was $20 US or less. But bar fines are generally $200 to $300 US now. Because of this, many guys pass on the Korean pussy, save their money, and go to the Philippines or Thailand for much more pussy in a week at the same amount they would spend for one night in Korea.
On the discussion of why the girl needs the money, I don't care! Any of them can tell you that they need to pay their school fees. But are you certain, without a doubt, that they are telling you the truth. We all know that many of these girls are experts at pulling scams on guys to get more money.
Again I say pay what you feel is right for you to pay. If anybody else feels that it is low or high, who cares? Sorry I don't agree with you on the "choice". Thanks to over population most Filipinos who were born into a poor family have very little chance in life. Three years ago I hired 12 Filipinos and in the 100 who applied I choose a 57 year old man and he is one of my top workers and he when talks about being given a chance he cries because he is so happy.
But then again, thanks to over population there is an endless line of girls turning 18 everyday and they do not know that when they post on DIA (example) that the guy will be a one meeting visit with a thanks for the pussy and here is 200P for a taxi, only to find out the next day he was a "hit and run" and not looking for a girlfriend.
I bet if guys posted their true stories of internet hook ups we would be reading very different stories.
I have a friend who lives in AC and scores tons of free (?) pussy and he told me that he goes crazy with the drama. He get up to 100 text a day (from different girls) and I have been with him when we had to take a side street due to a girl is approaching us and he does not want the drama. I would hate to live like that.
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Hairy Wonder
04-29-11, 23:17
I have a friend who lives in AC and scores tons of free (?) pussy and he told me that he goes crazy with the drama. He get up to 100 text a day (from different girls) and I have been with him when we had to take a side street due to a girl is approaching us and he does not want the drama. I would hate to live like that.
RobbSo you are saying that you never run into any of the girls that you have banged and sent out the door? How do you handle it if the same situation occurs? If you frequent the same areas over and over, you are bound to run into the girls that have gone to your hotel with you. Hell, I ran into girls that I had nothing to do with before, but they knew me because I had bar fined their friend. It was nothing to them to call out to me while I was walking down the market street with my kids. And they had their bf for the day on their arm also. I don't believe this kind of situation is unique to freebies.
I'm not trying to argue that anyone is wrong for what they pay, or if they get freebies. I just feel it is up to the individual to give the girl what he feels is fair. If the girls doesn't like it, she won't go with him again. She might even convince all of her friends to avoid the guys she feels are "cheap Charlies." On the other hand, a guy that pays a high price to a girl is seen as spoiling the market, because everyone fears he will drive up prices.
I guess the bottom line is that it is always best to discuss the expected price with the girl before taking her to the room. If she quotes an amount that you feel is too high, either offer a lower amount or go find a different girl that is willing to accept what you are willing to pay.
Prices will go up as the girls' expenses go up. I'm sure that mongers that have been having fun in paradise since the 70's would tell us how cheap things were back then. I can tell you that prices in Korea changed drastically since my first time in country in the late 80's. The ST rate was $10 and LT was $20 back then. These days foreigners have a hard time getting anything from the Korean girls, but it is available in some areas. Just not as easy to find as it used to be. Some get lucky and find ST for $60, while others pay $300. Before moving to sex prison (USA) I basically gave up on mongering in Korea because of the expense. But some guys will still pay those prices for it. And because of that, the girls will continue to charge those rates. Hopefully this won't happen in the Philippines. Based on the rates in Korea (or here in sex prison) I don't feel that P1000 (roughly $25) is too much to pay for a short time. But I won't try to force someone else to pay the same as I'm willing to pay either.
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Westcoast1 has a point. Pussy isn't intellectual. He's paying the market rate for a pussy to poke. From his point of view he could care less if the pussy can write a doctoral dissertation on quantum physics. The mechanics are the same. The end result is the same. Why pay more than the going rate? Employers don't pay employees according to their individual financial obligations. The really is no justification for .I also happen to agree with this point as I always try to get the market rate (or even the local rate) if possible. Why pay more than I should when I could use the extra cash for other things.
BTW: if you do manage to find one who could understand quantum physics, let alone write about it, please introduce me as I always wanted to ask if I'm getting the BJ of my life, is that the meaning of being swallowed by a black hole.
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Does any one have problems ever accessing this site from Cebu a friend, could not access it even when I copied and pasted? The address?
Stroker Ace88
04-30-11, 01:02
Does any one have problems ever accessing this site from Cebu a friend, could not access it even when I copied and pasted? The address?Certain hotels and wifi hotspots around the Philippines block adult content from being accessed. If your friend can surf the internet but is unable to open ISG or other adult websites most likely the location is blocking the website from being viewed and your friend should be able to log on by changing locations.
WestCoast1
04-30-11, 01:20
So you think that a honest day's work is equal to giving up your pussy to a foreigner because he has money?
RobbI think differently than that. I know there are tens of thousands of them in cebu with no work. None. If an honest day's wage (which she can't get because of the job shortage) is in the 500-peso range, then yes, many girls are willing to spend a few hours to it. And so are her friends. Your argument suggests that they would just skip the hooking and go get a regular job. That's not an option.
Think of the angry college girl's situation from the viewpoint of a college girl in the States. Assume she could pay her schooling monthly, and the monthly fee is $2000 (total, $15-20K / year). That's reasonable. Assume she wants to earn the money from gentleman. She'd have to work 10 (maybe 20) times this month to earn it. Yet, giving the cebuana p2000 to pay her entire tuition fee would represent an inequity somewhere? Even the college girl in Manila that I mentioned previously was working 3+ times / month for it.
Yet, giving the cebuana p2000 to pay her entire tuition fee would represent an inequity somewhere? Even the college girl in Manila that I mentioned previously was working 3+ times / month for it.Is this an accurate price quote of what a college education costs the average student in the Philippinnes? 24K pesos a year? Just curious, in the USA, the myth of the girl stripping her way through college is worn past belief.
Chocha Monger
04-30-11, 05:24
Most of the girls on DIA know very well what they're getting themselves into and only the most experienced mongers will be able to root them for 200 pesos taxi fare. They will usually have a scheme in place to fleece the foreigner ranging from feeding the entire clan to hiring "uncle's" taxi at an exhorbitant rate. They are quite cunning and not naive as some may think. They are usually referred to DIA by friends with ample experience playing the game. There are way more little aspiring scammers on the site than innocent girls looking for love. If they encounter some sly monger who gives them a sore pussy and 50 pesos jeepney fare that hardly merits sympathy.
It's true that there are some girls that don't expect anything and are truly physically attracted to the relatively younger than average mongers but they're few and far between. I think the more ethical mongers avoid rooting these girls altogether unless they want a long term girlfriend.
GregLondon
04-30-11, 05:51
Is this an accurate price quote of what a college education costs the average student in the Philippinnes? 24K pesos a year? Just curious, in the USA, the myth of the girl stripping her way through college is worn past belief.Vary considerably according to the prestige or lack thereof of the college and the course.
Fees start at say 20, 000 P per year for a course such as HRM (Hotel and Restaurant management) at a provincial uni. 40, 000 up to say 100, 000 P year for nursing (one of the most expensive subjects). Added to this is the costs of exams and textbooks, practicals etc which might add say 5, 000- 10, 000P per year.
Ironically because of the fees nursing tends to attract mostly girls from wealthy families or one with an overseas worker in the family. Often these better off girls are not really suited to nursing and taking care of people but have just been pressured by the family to do it as they know it's a respectable profession with an opportunity to work overseas if she can qualify (many don't).
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Ye it does, had a drink in there yesterday and was asked for the extra 10psoIt was just one charge on your bill per night not per drink. That was 3 months ago maybe its changed.
Last time at Vikings the bf is 1700, and no tip has ever been requested from one of the girls from that strip of bars (about 5 bars, all located next door to each other). Across the street from Vikings, the bf is 3000 or so. Silver Dollar also had I think a 3000 bf.Any reason why silver dollar is more expensive?
For me SD is the same as the other bars only thing that it opens earlier.
WestCoast1
05-01-11, 16:15
Any reason why silver dollar is more expensive?
For me SD is the same as the other bars only thing that it opens earlier. I could be wrong about the SD barfine. I went in the place only once, in 2010. No aircon (swamp cooler blowing humid air. In the tropics). Dark, smoky, hard to see. Two girls sound asleep at one table. Two girls at another table txting away aimlessly. Two girls dancing on top of the bar on / off. One chatted me up, and said the barfine was p3000. I went there because I saw a commercial on the hotel TV that said your first drink was free. When I was ready to leave the girl told me to pay the bill for the san mig. I told her it was supposed to be free, from the commercial. She called the bartender over, they spoke, and he said the second drink would be free, after I paid for the first drink. He said the commercial incorrectly told of the promotion. I paid and got out and went to Vikings.
I could be wrong about the SD barfine. I went in the place only once, in 2010. No aircon (swamp cooler blowing humid air. In the tropics). Dark, smoky, hard to see. Two girls sound asleep at one table. Two girls at another table txting away aimlessly. Two girls dancing on top of the bar on / off. One chatted me up, and said the barfine was p3000. I went there because I saw a commercial on the hotel TV that said your first drink was free. When I was ready to leave the girl told me to pay the bill for the san mig. I told her it was supposed to be free, from the commercial. She called the bartender over, they spoke, and he said the second drink would be free, after I paid for the first drink. He said the commercial incorrectly told of the promotion. I paid and got out and went to Vikings.Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.
Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.You and WC are both talking about the time after they had a minor fire and their air / cons failed for the next week or so.
I am told that SD is now under new management (one of the new owners is Graham from Lone Star). I expect service to kick up very soon and for SD to again become one of the better places for fun in Cebu.
WestCoast1
05-02-11, 05:54
you and wc are both talking about the time after they had a minor fire and their air / cons failed for the next week or so.
i am told that sd is now under new management (one of the new owners is graham from lone star). i expect service to kick up very soon and for sd to again become one of the better places for fun in cebu. yes, there had been a fire. large sheets of plastic were draped on walls. there was the smell of burnt whatever. interestingly, even though evap coolers and heavy-duty fans were blowing air like crazy, there was also a ton of cig smoke in the air, and only one person smoking in the place (admittedly he was smoking them so fast like he was trying to make himself sick on them). jokingly in my head i thought maybe the place was still on fire in the back. it was so hot in there i thought i would pass out. i had to go outside after one beer into the crappy, hot, polluted cebu air to clear my head (hahaha).
Yes, its 3000, I took 2 girls from there. Nothing to remember but it was my first time there so I went to the bar I knew from reports. As you mentionno AC. I just read the weather report. How you cope with the heat. When I was there in Feb. I was alread sweating, now I would be soaking wet.I was there just over a month ago and I paid 1750 peso. Paid 750 to the bar and in 1000 to the girl in the morning. I even sugested to the girl at night (after one pop) that she could leave, but she wanted to stay. Though I might just put that in there after reading about the girls that make up a story and leaves.
I was there just over a month ago and I paid 1750 peso. Paid 750 to the bar and in 1000 to the girl in the morning.Yup the barfine has always been 750 plus whatever you negotiate with the girl and I believe Lonestar is about the same. Maybe some of you guys can manage to get the tip down to 500 ! :o
Dark Vader
05-04-11, 21:33
Yup the barfine has always been 750 plus whatever you negotiate with the girl and I believe Lonestar is about the same.No the Lone Star EWR is higher than that 2700 if I recall correctly from last year
Cyber Whip
05-04-11, 22:03
No the Lone Star EWR is higher than that 2700 if I recall correctly from last yearNo, as of last month anyways, at Lonestar it is 750 to the bar then whatever you negotiate to the girl. If you paid 2700 then the girl probably got 2000, you just paid it all up front.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-05-11, 15:16
[quote=cuchulain; 1147104]there is a disco 2 blocks over and tons of lady boys walking by in front of the sogo hotel, i also saw about 50 prosti. 40 being ****. 50 more ladyboys all in one night, while sitting on the step for about 90 mins talking to the security guard.
in 90 mins you saw 50 prosti girls heading for the down town disco eh? thats about 1 girl in less than every 2 mins passed by you. and 40 of them were ****. and this, on your second trip to the philippines too, i see.
fifty more ladyboys passed by in the same time frame, ie, approx 100 people passed you in 90mins, more than one a minute, and you were able to competently decide they were a bunch of prostitutes and ladbyboys. well done.
for those readers who have not been outside sogo, that's one hell of a lot of traffic walking along that part of town, at night. never seen that kind of action there, unless poster got them bused in, lol.
how many beers had you drunk before you witnessed these amazing sightings?
i have been to those downtown disco's as you call them, out of curiosity, and i tell you, very few if any prostitute girls go to them. they are poor boy meets poor girl disco's, and from my observations, better for foreigners to keep away from them, otherwise you might tangle with a drunk filipino guy.
i say, if 50 girls, maybe 2/3 are prostitutes, not 40 as reported. after two trips to phils you can tell who and who is not a prostitute, who and who is not a ladyboy, in a split second, as they walk by, not bad.
the fact is, they are poor girls and guys who can't afford to go to other more refined disco's, not prostitutes and not ladyboys. small number might be prostitutes and ladyboys, but nowhere near the figs you quote.
****, well they would be young yes, but they are not going to the disco to sell themselves, so no problem there.
just another example of colourful language. guys from afar, iceland wherever, don't believe all you read, lol.
sorry, off again, just happened to spot that one on easter eve. chances are i will get tired of picking you guys up on your misleading reports. i don't think it will matter too much though, cause such reports are at least amusing to more experienced persons. but misleading for others, that's the problem.
it seems new arrivals like the current poster, and tom before, get all excited, thus finding it difficult to report things as they really are.
i will not get any medals for pulling you misleading guys in line, so goodbye. will read your colourful posts with amusement, but don't think its worth my time to respond to them anymore.
readers of this forum, i suggest you stick to the senior guys who did not fly in yesterday, post regular, reliable, factual reports. their names escape me for the moment, but soon as i see them on the page i recognise their pen names and read their informative and reliable stuff.
the other posters, and their amazing sightings, are for your amusement only. remember that.
enough. cuchulain is absolutely right in his assessment of the downtown (colon st.) area. the discos there are probably 95 percent local and there are definitely 14 and 15yo girls prostituting themselves there. i can't imagine why you or anybody else would dispute this. you mentioned that you've ventured there only for curiosity's sake, which suggests you really don't know the downtown scene very well. neither cuchulain nor i are making this stuff up, what would we gain from doing that?
No, as of last month anyways, at Lonestar it is 750 to the bar then whatever you negotiate to the girl. If you paid 2700 then the girl probably got 2000, you just paid it all up front.Cyber is correct.
If either of the mamasans don't know you then they will charge you 2750 php with 2000 going to the girl.
If you have bought them a drink and they get to see what sort of guy you are, then they will charge you 750 php only and assume / hope / expect you will give at least 2000 php to the girl.
The girls will report back if anyone short-changes them and you will then have to wear the label if ever you want to return to LS.
Cuchulain is absolutely right in his assessment of the downtown (Colon St.) area. The discos there are probably 95 percent local...What are the name of the disco(s)?
The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street. Mr. Js is a restaurant.
In front and disco in the rear. Live band until 11pm then DJ. The food and
Beer are reasonable. Only 1/2 block from Sogo.
Furthur down the street from Dr. Js is Scorpian (all students) , large and
A little sleazy. Waiter will offer you a girl but I've never accepted. Milfs.
And Ladyboys are cruising the place. Many students will "flirt / dance for beer" and
It's a fun place if you are into dancing. Starts early. Like 9PM.
Enjoy.
What are the name of the disco(s)?
Member #1121
05-07-11, 20:56
visited cebu for a couple of days and with the help of the senior members on the board (special thanks to wr) had a wonderful experience exploring the cebu nightlife.
stayed at the beverly boutique hotel which is a 2 minute walk to all the bars on mango avenue. the hotel is very basic and costed about $50 / night including breakfast. the location of the hotel is ideal and hence was where i stayed. it's also just a 10 minute walk to the ayala mall.
ventured out late at night and visited all the bars on mango like vikings, red lips, pussycats, dimples etc and the quality of the girls went down from club to club. vikings and red lips had some lookers and some were pretty friendly. overall the later at night i went the more tired and disinterested the girls looked and that was understandable as they start work around 7 pm and have to go till 3 am.
spent most of my time at vikings and red lips. drinks were about 50-65p for patrons and 150-200p or so for the girls. most of the girls prefer to take a tequila shot but spend a good amount of time with you. the waitresses were more pushy for lady drinks in red lips that at vikings.
vikings: most if not all the girls were decent looking spinners with 2-3 looking really young / ****. there's always someone dancing on the stage in a bikini and plenty of other girls sitting around on the couches. or near the bar area. was approached by 2-3 girls as soon as i walked in but politely declined their offer for company as i wanted to check out the scene first. couple of cuties playing pool and some others sitting with customers. walked around to the bar and got chatting to a girl who had a pleasing smile and attitude. she was laughing and giggling all the time and i asked her to accompany me to the couch for company. while sitting her hands were constantly roaming around my thighs and back and i reciprocated in the same manner and she seemed to love it. there was plenty of cuddling and kissing and wandering of hands all over with her hands on my crotch half the time. so much was the excitement that in about 45 minutes of playing or so she actually came with all the foreplay right there on the couch. she was sort of embarrassed but happy at the same time, she grabbed a couple of tissues and said she needed to go and clean up and change and would be back in no time and that i should wait for her. after a few minutes she came back with a sexy red and black underwear and smelling all fresh again.
we chatted and played around for some more time with the waitresses and other girls coming upto her and asking her if we knew each other through chat or other means.
i asked her of she liked to dance and upon receiving a positive response from her asked her to meet me at julianas after her shift. that got her excited and she promptly gave me her cell phone number and we agreed to meet at 4 am.
true to her she met me there around 4 and we went inside, danced, had a drink and had a great time. she was thoroughly enjoying herself and was behaving just like e gf. met a couple of her friends inside who were it seems having a girls night out.
around 5 am we proceeded back to the hotel in a taxi, stopping by on the way at the pharmacy to grab some condoms.
upon reaching the room she agreed to take a couple of pics and was giving some nice poses which i have posted in the photo gallery. thereafter she went straight in for a shower, said she felt shy taking a shower together. so once she was done i proceeded for a quick shower and then it was action time. she had already turned off the lights by the time i came out of the shower and was lying naked in bed.
we went at it for a good couple of hours, multiple positions, bbbj, fingering and she came about 3 times during that time and was enjoying herself a lot (could make out from her facial expressions). she was perfect in terms of what i wanted, not too wild or dominating and did whatever i requested her to do and didn't seem like she was a real pro or had too much experience. said she had joined the bar about 3 months ago.
she left at around 11 am after multiple rounds and highly passionate love making. didn't take any money from me and even though i offered taxi money she politely refused and said she had enough to manage, thanked me for a great night and departed with a big smile on her face. she wanted me to visit vikings again that night but i had to catch a flight ina couple of ours to manila.
so all in all a great night with this cebu freebie and one that would go down memory lane for sure! (pictures have been posted in the photo gallery)
i went to cebu for 3 days to look around and meet with a dia girl that contacted me.
she was 24 and said she had never had a boyfriend. i was upfront with her, and told her i was just looking for some company. i told her what i wanted, a sexy massage. she still agreed to meet with me. she has a job, but only earns 500 pesos a week.
we agreed to meet at aa bbq on pusok road. which is not far from the hotel i was staying at. the bellavista. lapu lapu.
we meet at the agreed upon time that she texts me. i see her and she is really tiny, less than 5 ft. and probably under 90 lbs. i checked her i'd to make sure she was 24. she is a very sweet girl. we pick out some fish to be cooked and i order red horse.
we sit down and talk while dinner is being cooked, she is very curious about everything. a lot of fun to talk to. this is the most fun time for me the first meeting.
we finish and she agrees to go back to my hotel with me. we decide to walk back as i didn't think it was far, because the taxi only took like a minute to get there. from the hotel just go towards the new bridge to aa bbq.
on the way back to the hotel we passed probably a half dozen small time girlie bars. one of the bars was named "mermaids" also on the street, there were a lot of girls just walking around. they really gave a long stare. they were definately available. some appeared to be ****, but it's hard to tell here. my date told me not to walk around here alone at night, but that nobody would bother me if i am with her. all 85 lbs. of her. ha ha.
we get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. she then tells me that she is virgin. i wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, i do believe it. i told her that it's ok, i'm not interested in taking her virginity. i asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. and she said ok.
i removed my clothes and lay down on my back. i asked her to remove her shirt and bra. she had some really nice tits for such a small woman. i also asked to see her pussy just once. she was very shy, but i insisted. i just wanted to make sure she wasn't a ladyboy, but i didn't tell her that. she was just so naive.
she really didn't know what to do. i put her hand on my chest and moved it in a rubbing motion. i then put her hand on my penis, and she just held it and asked "what am i supposed to do?". i laughed a little then grabbed her hand and showed her.
then i told her to put her mouth on it, and to suck it just like eating an ice cream. she actually did a pretty good job. she looked up at me once and asked "how long before the sperm cells come out? 30 minutes?". i laughed and said no, it's not going to take nearly that long. anyway i finished and she watched very closely at the result of her labors.
we met again the next night and i asked if she wanted me to try using my mouth on her. she said ok. she had a very nice pussy, unshaven, and untrimmed. i warmed her up a little licking and sucking her tits, then moved to her clit. i started licking and sucking her clit, she put her hand to her head as though she had been thunderstruck. after about a minute she locked her little legs around my neck and said "oh i think i cum". i said great, thats good news.
it was a great time. but now time to get back to manila with my dia girl there.
kork
WestCoast1
05-08-11, 08:10
Nice report brother.
Radical Guy
05-08-11, 14:42
We get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. She then tells me that she is virgin. I wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, I do believe it. I told her that it's ok, I'm not interested in taking her virginity. I asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. And she said ok.Out of curiosity, do you think that the girl would have allowed you to take her virginity if you wanted?
RG
Out of curiosity, do you think that the girl would have allowed you to take her virginity if you wanted?
RGNo, she wasn't ready.
. She has a job, but only earns 500 pesos a week.
KorkDamn, what kind of job did she have?
Damn, what kind of job did she have?From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.
Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.
Kork
Mongrinastrlnd
05-09-11, 07:18
From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.
Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.
KorkMore of a case that they just ignore it because they can get away with it and a lot of it is under the table anyway.
FreebieFan
05-09-11, 12:17
From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.
Small business are not required to comply with this, from what I am being told.
KorkOne of my execs was a factory worker in some high tech place. 300 workers and they all got paid 150 pesos a day, and this is in Manila. So P500 in Cebu is quite comparable. And you wonder why there are so many OFW's
The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street.Thanks for the info Cheapy! I'll have to check these places out sometime because I'm a dancing fool!
Have been to a club called 'Dark Planet' located on Osmena probably not too far from the places you mention.
Loaded with students, the music was good and the atmosphere interesting to say the least!
True to her she met me there around 4 and we went inside, danced, had a drink and had a great time. She was thoroughly enjoying herself and was behaving just like e GF. Met a couple of her friends inside who were it seems having a girls night out.Nice report! It's a good thing when you can meet girls without much cash outlay if you play your cards right! Most women will motivate when there is dancing involved. Every night is girls night out at Juliana after the bars close!
From what I can gather, only the government and large business must comply with minimum wage of 320 pesos per day.Actually, minimum wage in Cebu City is P285 and the outlying provincial towns considerably less.
Yes many people are working off the books in small businesses for P100 a day!
Mr Enternational
05-09-11, 19:57
We get back to the hotel, go to my room and talk some more. She then tells me that she is virgin. I wouldn't have believed it anywhere else but here, I do believe it. I told her that it's ok, I'm not interested in taking her virginity. I asked her if she wanted to continue with the massage. And she said ok.What about her mouth? Did she say it was a virgin as well? If so, hands?
What about her mouth? Did she say it was a virgin as well? If so, hands?Didn't you actually read the rest of his post Mr E?
He goes on to describe teaching her several things pertinent to your rather odd questions.
You should read right through before you make a comment like that.
Been here for 4 weeks now, and yes jaguar is closed for now. Robison mall is closed.
Went to a few spots, junkera was down in numbers, once there was 20 girls to line up now I only saw about 8, still there was 1 good there (she had a kid to a jap and claimed to be a student) so when there was 20 I usually only found 1 good, so it still rates as a must go and see. Downtown is still not a place to stagger drunk and have 1000's poking out of your pockets, but other wise like any other downtown place in the world enjoy the walk.
I went to volvo, viking and love city the first night, volvo still is 4000 bar fine I saw yen (one of the best looking girls in cebu but a shabu adict) who still only does koreans saw one other girl #52, but for 4k I went looking. Viking had 2 girls I liked the one who sat down said she does not bar fine (due to her husband?) , so off to love city, where the only good look was with clients.
To me the quality is down the number in bars of punters is low.
The next night went to lone star, the bar fin I think is 2700, 700 for the bar 2000 for the girl so you can try get the girl for 1700 if your are tom, here the quality was a bit better and the place was packed as usual, I was there loooking for some friends and a few girls remembered me (so good to look like tom) one girl was ex viking and looks like she is now on the shabu (I bf her in her first month of working) so 2 years now she still works.
For now I use FB I have had 5 hot students in the 4 weeks 2 I now see often, I offer 1000 for st as I have a gf and a student live in my house, the student is from cdo I found on fB and I pay her 10k pm the gf gets what ever I feel like she knows not to ask and for the last 4 yrs know I will have a girl or 2 every day.
I am here till aug then gone for 2 months. So if you drop in to cebu let me know I meet you around mango.
Like others I will not give details of girls unless I meet you, and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700
Gaijin Gigolo
05-11-11, 16:07
What are the name of the disco(s)?No idea, I didn't pay attention the names, but they're easy to spot. There are 3 or 4 or them on Sanciangko St. Between Pelaez St. And Junquera Street.
Gaijin Gigolo
05-11-11, 16:12
Yah, those are the ones. There are a couple others I think but connected. As Cheapy said, there are a lot of students here, even as young as 14, so use discretion. And be aware that you'll very likely be the only foreigner within sight. There are girls all over the sidewalks nearby as well, all seemingly looking to get picked up.
The two that I frequent are both on Saciangko Street. Mr. Js is a restaurant.
In front and disco in the rear. Live band until 11pm then DJ. The food and
Beer are reasonable. Only 1/2 block from Sogo.
Furthur down the street from Dr. Js is Scorpian (all students) , large and
A little sleazy. Waiter will offer you a girl but I've never accepted. Milfs.
And Ladyboys are cruising the place. Many students will "flirt / dance for beer" and
It's a fun place if you are into dancing. Starts early. Like 9PM.
Enjoy.
I am home now from 3 weeks in staying downtown Cebu City at the GV Tower. I enjoyed the hotel if you can get a single it is 675 or so. Nicer than any pension house, being a high rise hotel with a nice lobby. I will stay here next time. The food sucks and the wifi can be questionable. I like staying downtown and this is a good fit for me.
I was in cebu city during holy week, That was a waste of 4 days. Cebu is closed good Friday and almost closed on the day before. Easter Sunday its running just fine. Saturday half open, but slow slow slow. Between Robinsion mall catching fire my second day (which, ruined some of the pickup plans) and being under the weather half the time. My trip was ok. Obviously could of been better.
In my 3 weeks staying downtown, I walked around alone at night on the major streets quite often. Everynight almost. It seems pretty safe. I rarely drink and use common sense. The girl scene was pretty slim picking, they were mostly realy harcore downtown girls, homeless or almost homeless, druggies. Again I thought I was in the main spots, Near Mcdonalds, The corner out in front of Cebu Century Hotel near the jolliebee steps, the main streets in between, the street mcsherry is on, etc etc.
The scene downtown changes lots from day to day. I reported one night I watched 100s of students and lady boys walking down Sanciangko St to the discos. Then for days and days very few. I will admit I have a very hard time determining a prosti from a non prosti or a semi pro. I made lots of friends walking downtown and they always know if a girl is a prosti or just a girl or a boy. So I got to the point I would just ask my local friends. If they are standing still on the corner. I can figure that one out. But after that. I get confused.
Lets get 1 thing straight. I don't know all the spots but walked around plenty down Sanciangko St, spent lots of time on the street drinking pepsi next to the Mcsherry, I seen lots of girls. I thought they were very below average in general, maybe the good ones got picked up early, I was usually out after midnight. I picked up a few that I only seen once. I should of spent more time down by the discos on the busy nights.
One of the girls I took to the hope hotel annex, downstairs of the Hope pension house. 50 pesos an hour, and believe me they are over charging, pretty nasty place, I should of had some beer first. She was talking BJ BJ BJ. Once we get comfortible on the nasty looking sheets her BJ skills are so bad. I give her 5 mins and say enough give her 200 pesos we agreed on 300 which is the going rate downtown for white guys. She was happy as a pig on hot mud. I wasnt but I knew I can find another girl later. My experience may not be the same but the ugly downtown girls seem to have questionable service, but that just might be my 2 girls.
The other girl I picked up, found standing around hiding from the pimps looking nervous and scared, she was very clean cut not a typical hardcore downtown girl. I snuck her into my hotel when my gf was a working. She had a decent attitude spent about an hour with her and walked her out. Gave her 500. She started telling me a sad story so I kicked her another 100. We had a beer earlier in the Our Place bar, where I took her. She headed right back to try to find another foreigner.
I have more stories, I will share later, lot of foreigners that are staying downtown, lots are there for along time, months not weeks, some hardcore drinkers, lots of australians (their dollar is strong) I like most of them, Nice guys. I spent lots of time talking to a guy that lives on 5000 pesos a week. He has a 200 pesos fan room downtown, realy nice guy.
Thanks, I will share more info later, by the way I bailed on the dia thing after about 2 days. Way to many girls to chase them. .
I just starting to feel better from my cold or H1n1 or whatever I have, and loooking forward to another trip.
Like others I will not give details of girls unless I meet you, and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700Just to clarify as I'm not sure it they are the same. Are you referring to Jakeosalom area- (not sure if I'm spelling this right) as Junkera?
GregLondon
05-14-11, 02:14
Actually, minimum wage in Cebu City is P285 and the outlying provincial towns considerably less.
Yes many people are working off the books in small businesses for P100 a day! Mattrick is right the Min Wage regulations vary according to the region you are in and also the industry. Manila is obviously the highest followed by Cebu City. The more provincial you go the lower the min wage. It also varies by industry. For example the Min wage in El Nido in the tourist industry is relatively high (thus prompting the 25% price hikes a couple of months ago). You will also find that many of the people working in hotels are OTJ trainees, who will generally have to work for free for a few months as part of their HRM degree. As Mattrick says, its mainly the Government and more high profile businesses that actually pay min wage. Even some substantial busineesses such as the Chinese owned Unitop supermarket / dept store in Puerto Princesa are paying as low as 150P a day.
The other fave trick fro employers is to give staff 6 months contracts so they count as temporary workers with few employment rights and get fired at the end of their contract no matter how well they perform as the employer doesn't want to make them permanent staff.
Just to clarify as I'm not sure it they are the same. Are you referring to Jakeosalom area- (not sure if I'm spelling this right) as Junkera?Yes it the same place. I spell it that way.
, and as for paying 500 go find the shabu addicts in the malls, junkera is still 700Did you try to negotiate the price 1st? I was in Cebu not less than 6 months ago and went to the Junkera basketball courts-as you spelled it, and after a few moments of negotiation the price came down to the usual price 500p ST. They started with 1000p ST so need to talk them down as prices here are not automatic.
Shark
Stroker Ace88
05-15-11, 06:04
Yes it the same place. I spell it that way.FYI it's "Junquera" and not "Junkera".
I am here till aug then gone for 2 months. So if you drop in to cebu let me know I meet you around mango.can't send you a pm. Please drop me a note. Will be there soon
Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver, after a six month quasi whorist sojourn in the tropics. 3 months in Pattaya / Jomtien and 3 months in Cebu City. But enjoying my time with my 8 year old son being an absentee father for so long. I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.
Well what to report? Well I do like splitting the trip in half, so neither place gets under your skin or any steady gf for that matter. I changed my digs this year from Crown Garden to a high end luxury condo that requires a 3 mos stay which had a hot tub fully furnished. Lcd tv, full american style kitchen, in suite laundry. 2 br with spring mattresses, fully serviced. Check out Tancor Cebu, if you have 40, 000p plus to spend a mos on rent.
Saying that I picked a steady I had last year, who worked as a nanny in Kuwait / Lebanon and made house with her as I do like Med cuisine and wanted a change of pace this year, given last year my cock was in a sling with a nasty superbug infection MSSE. So not much to report in Cebu except to say I stayed loyal to one.
But not to discredit my whorist credentials in Pattaya, where I was first I had a few handfulls before setteling on one steady gf before doing the shift. She took it in stride. No stress. I must say Jomtien is a gem with all their high end restaurants, nice beach and decent foodmart. I stay with my cousin in one of his 26 serviced apartments nearby Foodmart that his Inc. Owns there.
I never strayed outside Cebu City as I do not like the province and prefer the creature comforts of Cebu city and the district around Ayala. Mabolo to Lahug only. In Jomtien other than a few beach outings to some nearby islands I would rather enjoy the company of a lovely virile asian with few strings attached.
So a pleasant placid trip to two of the best working girl mongering places where sunshine is always present at 32c to brighten your mood.
A few notes in Cebu City:
Still enjoy Sunflower although the air con is not put on full blast anymore to conserve as attendance is markedly heading south. Ladies night sucks without the competition but you save a few bucks when bringing a few of your gf's ladyfriends with the free drink included in admission.
As it is news for 2010-2011 annual report but might be old news to avid followers of the thread:
NASA, Paseo, HALO Badgers closed. Jaguar busted. Norwegian got falsely accused. Those were the major highlights / changes of Cebu during my trip.
Jokers Arms is getting a bit worn after 3 years and service / manager supervising workers is lacking as I was short changed a few times but should survive with Badgers closed and the poker place next door and the food is still good, but the draft beer is way expensive and rarely is working nor tasting that great.
I still think the bar attached to Gustavian's in Banilad is the best for expats with a few bucks to quaff a few without getting smoked out if you are a non smoker. Great pizza place next door and of course Gustavian's is always superb. The sports bar above Juliana in Mango is still very good and a good place to visit before heading downstairs.
Enjoyed as usual Mr A's with their new cafe to shoot some pool and enjoy a romantic sunset, overview of Cebu.
Jazz and Blues. I skip the high priced food and order a few semi stout beers that San Mig makes which is quite good Cerveza Negra. The sound and ambience and band are all great in Jazz and Blues and there is a non smoking section that they follow most of the time. One of the few establishments in Cebu that do this.
Wine Shop. Worth visiting during the tip for drinks not food. The Latin grooves are fine and are a welcome change to the standard singing style of most establishments, hotels, restaurants etc. Which I did not frequent much these days with exception to You Bar in Mango or Parkmall which are both good.
Penthouse, Pump1 and of course the top ticket Juliana for disco with the latter being a major tourist attraction with all the friendly natives willing to have a sleep over with anyone who rolls into town. Although I noticed many more regulars in there who use it as their pussy HQ. The place is a class act but they need to change the chairs and tables. They improved everything else.
Did not hang much in Fuente or in that general area. The lady bars that I visit now is Temptations. Vikings is getting too musty for me after visiting Cebu for so many years. Well I guess if it works don't fix it up? Not the case with Juliana it keeps getting better and better.
It attracts all types from hard core pro's after servicing hang out to your average curious filipina out for a little night out on the town. It was even open on Holy Thursday. I guess it gets a special disposition. The rest of the town looked like a brownout.
Very impressed with Radisson Blu overall and had a grand tour of all the suites but too rich for my blue blood.
Traffic is getting worse, especially around IT park. I am glad I moved locales to Mabolo, although my gym is at the Waterfront. The street level pollution is real noxious. The taxi drivers are getting worse slowly even with the recent jack up in prices.
On a more positive note, Pino in Lahug is still my favourite Pinoy restaurant and has a high end wine bar attached to if if you spend the big bucks dining. I just like the buffet lunches.
There was no new hotel at the mid price level that impressed me with exception to a new one across from Holiday hotel near my other fav Pinoy restaurant.Alejandro's. Crispy Pata is great. No serviced apartment comes close to Tancor. Like the one near Pino restaurant is a disappointment.
Ranch Restaurant near JollyBee in Talamban is doing fine with a shift to USDA meat only. No more Australian transplanted cows to Cagayan as S&R bumped his freezer space out. S&R sucks overall by the way as it is not the complete package to what we know as Costco. That might change. The last blowout sale had a few good bargains. I do go once in awhile. However it is hard to beat Ayala grocery store for the overall package.
There is some new restaurants in Ayala that I did not check out which I hear are good. Ayala is a real gem for Cebu and so many ladies wandering aimlessly throughout the mall. It is out of this world.
Surf with SmartBro external USB device with many good prepaid plans now but no unlimited monthly plans yet.
Switched to Globe for better quality IDD calls to North America. Smart Hello, is ok and cheaper a bit but I prefer the instant log in feature of Globe IDD prepaid service. I will try Skype next year.
Enjoyed 4 hour Hilot sessions for 500p every second day with a private massage who was trained by a famour hilot in Cagayan at Tesda. Really helped my spondylitis as did the hot tub, the home cooked meals and of course that virile filipina that kept my motor running out on the highway Cebu City. Hope I have not been spinning my wheels but it is a lot of fun. The whole Cebu City experience with the Jomtien thing thrown in for good measure.
All the best. Over and out. Going to hop a plane in September 1 this time and stay longer like June 1 next year and might hit more areas of Thailand this time. My son might understand in the future. But coming back to lousy weather in May is not worth it anymore.
Oh by the way the dental service in Thailand is superb for high end work. My dental implants work like a charm, but you need at least 3 months there to complete the job. High end work in Phil costs more and unless you know they are using the top labs in Manila and you know your materials I would stay clear. I am in that biz by the way.
K, all the best and will follow the board a bit more closely these days as I plan of my next Asian escapade.
As I will finally arrive next month back again in Cebu after 16 years of absence, I throughout enjoyed your report and will definitely use it as a guidance to fullfill my nights. I am staying at the Radisson Blu by the way. Do you have any idea if it is ok to bring in all my DIA dates?
Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver, after a six month quasi whorist sojourn in the tropics. 3 months in Pattaya / Jomtien and 3 months in Cebu City. But enjoying my time with my 8 year old son being an absentee father for so long. I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.
Well what to report? .
FYI it's "Junquera" and not "Junkera".Jakosalem (pronounced "Yakosalem") is the major street that goes right through to General Maxilom (aka Mango Avenue) ,
Junquera (pronounced "hunkera") is an area also previously know as "the basketball court".
Phantomtiger2
05-15-11, 22:02
Back in cold wet miserable Vancouver,
Given last year my cock was in a sling with a nasty superbug infection MSSE. Can relate to that as I have lived many years in Vancouver.
Whew!.You are one lucky bastard as many superbug infection needed to "cut out" the infected tissue and the surrounding areas.
PT
Phantomtiger2
05-15-11, 22:06
Jakosalem (pronounced "Yakosalem") is the major street that goes right through to General Maxilom (aka Mango Avenue) ,
Junquera (pronounced "hunkera") is an area also previously know as "the basketball court". Ha ha, seem on this board, no matter how we spell it someone will also get it confused. Which is why in the old days when I first started here almost no one called this area by its name or street. We all simply called it the "basketball court".
Cheers all.
PT
Phantomtiger2
05-15-11, 22:15
Did you try to negotiate the price 1st? I was in Cebu not less than 6 months ago and went to the Junkera basketball courts-as you spelled it, and after a few moments of negotiation the price came down to the usual price 500p ST. They started with 1000p ST so need to talk them down as prices here are not automatic.
SharkHi Shark,
Hmm, Seems I've been hearing reports from others that its more difficult to get the standard 500p ST here now. When the 2 of us were here 6 months ago it was not that big a deal to talk down to 500p, maybe things changed since the last 6 months? Not sure as I'm not here at the moment so can't confirm.
How are things going with you. Let me know when you plan a return trip here.
PT
Saigon John
05-16-11, 11:36
I am staying at the Radisson Blu by the way. Do you have any idea if it is ok to bring in all my DIA dates?The Radisson Blue is likely the finest hotel in Cebu city. But I would not stay there for a monger vacation. You will feel at least out of place when you bring a DIA slum dweller back to the hotel. Good luck! (The other hotel that seems not fully supportive of the activities related to this website is the Marriott. All other hotels seem fine based on what I have heard or experienced.)
I do not work as my biz's run automatically so he gets all my time here during my off season.That is what I call the perfect business model!
I spend all of my Philippine vacations in Angeles City and Subic. With Subic as my beach and pussy venue, while Angeles is more of a "mostly pussy" kind of place. However, I am considering a Cebu side-trip to broaden my cultural horizons.
From what I read in the Cebu forum and see in the photo gallery, it seems as if Cebu has much better looking women but not as much night-life. Perhaps not as much do do between encounters other than look at whatever cultural wonders are on offer, or go scuba diving.
Am I on track here?
Member #4351
05-17-11, 00:51
The other hotel that seems not fully supportive of the activities related to this website is the Marriott.I always stay at the Marriott as do some other forum members. Lots of security which is to be expected, but never any actions which I would call non GF. That said, when I'm in town I would just as soon have other guys from ISG stay elsewhere, hahaha.
i find the girls in cebu better than manila, maybe just my taste. cebu you should not have any problems with hotels and your girls. i stayed marriott and was not alone with most guys had girls there too. (due to **** problems always ask the girl to have i'd) as for night life there are so many discos bars it never is dull.
my gf likes going bar hopping. my other girls like discos and every night i get what i want.
there are pools and if you want beach take the girls to the beach you want and stay a few nights. you be back in cebu in 2hrs if you want.
Oh and we have good malls in Cebu you can get everything at the malls. Often I just go out to watch all the sights and enjoy my little bit of heaven. When ever I take my gf I see all the guys check her out and some times she helps me get girls some she use to work with and others that I like.
I do not know for sure but I am sure you will be fine if you are somewhat discreet about it like make sure she is a live one hot for action and keep her there for longer periods of time. Bring new ones in different times of day / night. Do not spend too much time in lobby or restaurants with the ladies. Take different routes to your room.
Just being creative here.
No one other than the floor manager at the lobby might confront you with it. Just be mindfull who he is. I saw him there whilst on my tour. Introduce yourself maybe, make light talk and tell him you love the place and plan to stay a long time and come back again etc. Any snow job would do.
Bear in mind the place is huge and grand and if you arrive in a busy time you should be fine and have her depart on her own to reduce eyes on you.
As long as any one filipina is a drama queen holding out for a an extra 500 pesos banging on the door after you kicked her out for coming for a jam session at the end of her cycle and she needs to go tomorrow to the province in aid of her dying father and your a a rich bastos kano anyways you should be fine.
But if she is a screamer in bed, don't stick it in her arse and wake the neighbours at 3am. For sure your going to get kicked out.
And if that doesn't work and the Blu does not appreciate your business, move on to the Marco Polo it is the superior hotel in Cebu hands down. Marco Polio suites are top class and the lounge on the top floor is better than the Blu's. And no trouble bringing local talent by for a spin. Bring two girls at a time and put them on shift work to reduce your time in the taxi for your next date which should be say at JY Square Mcdonalds as they need to work for their lunch.
LOL. Yeah. I reported more about the experience a year ago and it is on the board. Just to report it did not fall off but yes it could have. Vancomycin by IV was the cure but after 2 weeks on IV it didn't take it out completely would you believe that? I took another culture they found a few traces of Staph Epi along with another bacteria which is common for those with HLAB27 gene found in spondylitis but which rarely infects the prostrate in the absence of surgery. Klebsiella pnemonia. I took an additional dose by oral method and it knocked it out. Lucky I had a sweetheart of a gf that let me do her with condoms and once I was cured I switched to a virgin to keep my motor clean.
I did however get klebsiella pnemonia upper tract infection but no lung infiltration on my last visit. Once again the HLAB27 gene is probably to blame.
Thats why I advise all mongers to get to travel insurance but read fine print if you can get take home meds or not and if std's are covered or not. It saved me 6, 000 USD in past two years for a cost of $700.
It is a minefield out there. I will stick with the virgins but hard to find one of legal age in all orifices.
Cebu is good overall just the clap is your common enemy.
I would allways use a condom with a working lady. Either get her tested or ask to see her hygiene card (and not let her out if your sight). I never understand any one want to DATY with a wl. And buy your own condoms get a few brands as size will vary and you will see which brand works for your size.
The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away. There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.
I have 2 girls live with me and I go bar hopping I never got any thing the last 4 years here. But I always treat each wl as a wl. My gfs have to live with me and get tested every time I come back.
I would allways use a condom with a working lady. Either get her tested or ask to see her hygiene card (and not let her out if your sight). I never understand any one want to DATY with a wl. And buy your own condoms get a few brands as size will vary and you will see which brand works for your size.
The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away. There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.
I have 2 girls live with me and I go bar hopping I never got any thing the last 4 years here. But I always treat each wl as a wl. My gfs have to live with me and get tested every time I come back. I would think this report is a bit far fetched, as it costs only 400pso to get rid of the above, and get tested but what happens in the next 3 months? Bit far fetched I think.
I never strayed outside Cebu City as I do not like the province and prefer the creature comforts of Cebu city and the district around Ayala. Mabolo to Lahug only.Great annual report there Tout and welcome back to the board! Will have to make it a point to bump into each other later this year for a couple of frosty Cerveza Negras! Still think you are missing out by not visiting the more placid areas of the province. Btw, what is the atmosphere like over at Temptations now?
Lots of security which is to be expected, but never any actions which I would call non GF.Yes but the 'walk of shame' can be visually painful. :eek:
I spend all of my Philippine vacations in Angeles City and Subic. With Subic as my beach and pussy venue, while Angeles is more of a "mostly pussy" kind of place. However, I am considering a Cebu side-trip to broaden my cultural horizons.
From what I read in the Cebu forum and see in the photo gallery, it seems as if Cebu has much better looking women but not as much night-life. Perhaps not as much do do between encounters other than look at whatever cultural wonders are on offer, or go scuba diving. Better continue to vacation in Luzon as there isn't much going on in Cebu. Wouldn't want to let the word out that it is the GFE capital of S. E. Asia. ;) But being the second largest city in the Philippines, it has all the things to keep you occupied more or less.
Stroker Ace88
05-17-11, 20:28
The clap in Asia is a super bug and can be total drug resistant due to the girls taking the meds a few days and then saving the rest for a rainy day. Most wl have uti, bv and chiamydia (dia) on and off. My gf of 4 years is ex wl can tell you which girls have had what and when (as they sell their phone to buy meds) so if you find a wl no phone run away.I will have to call BOLA on this one. Any girl in the Philippines would rather cut off there left arm than sell there most prized possession, the cellphone. Most bar girls in Cebu get there lady drink payments the following shift so they always have a few hundred pesos in there pocket. When the girls go for the weekly hygene checkup at city health if there is a problem they are given a prescription slip right away and if they inform the nurse of low-funds they are sometimes given the meds for free. If they test positive for something the bar is informed and they are not allowed to work until they can test clean, atleast thats the rule in theory.
Is there a way around the tests and the pills, yes there are ways to get fake tests and make the bar think they are taking meds when they did not, but generally speaking most bar girls in Cebu do not want to get fired and upset the gravy train and most if not all take the meds and test clean and go back to work. Street or mall freelancers have no such testing, so caveat emptor.
It is possible some girls are not taking all the pills and save some for another time, but IMHO that happens more in AC then in Cebu where the bar girls are more hardened, but thats just my take. The meds required are 2 200mg Suprax-Cefixime and 4 250mg Azithromycin-Zithromax so there is not alot of saving pills for later stuff when its only a few pills total.
There was 200 reported cases of aids in Cebu last year one girl I know got aids.If you read the latest information coming out of heath organizations in the Philippines you know that the HIV-Aids rate is on the rise, but alot of that is men-men sexual contact and very few woman are being infected.
The official stats for March 2011 are 172 new HIV-Aids cases discovered within all of the Philippines, with 158 of these new cases being men and 14 women and 2011 year to date newly discovered HIV-Aids cases total 483.
With all the rampant sex tourisim and all the thousands of bar girls in every corner of the Philippines. 14 new female HIV-Aids cases is fairly low.
http://www.pnac.org.ph/index.php?mact=News,cntnt01,detail,0&cntnt01articleid=250&cntnt01origid=119&cntnt01returnid=39
I am giving you my experience living with a ex WL for 4yrs, she has ex work mate who tell her (and me)" I have a problem" so we hold on to the cell phone until the funds are paid back. Even for 400 peso they need a loan until the next barfine.
The city health Hy genie check is not for all STD's so why risk it until you pay for a real test?
I am pointing out that when you pick up from a bar you have some safety there, the mall and street girls are the ones I would never risk. Junkera do have hygenie the last time I checked so I do not classify them as street, national book store mango, colon and the road down near the water are the street girl risk areas. I posted this after I read the guy who got some thing, I was pointing out it is better to get the girls checked rather than you getting some thing, so if I am wrong enjoy your next BBsex and not complain that you get some thing for life. The girl I know who got aids was working in a bar and use to sex clients with out condoms she thought she had fever.
Like I said I giving you advice on what I have seen, you have a different experience, one thing I will say if a WL say use a condom use one, as she is worried about giving you some thing, she knows she has may "have a problem"
I only joined this forum for my trip to india, I am in cebu now till aug so I am posting between girls. But another forum I use is similar with guys boasting how the sex wl with out condoms then some would complain that they got a STD
Just to clarify they say "sell" when they have it on hock, they tell the punter it was stolen or lost. Most of the time you hold onto the phone for 1/4 to 1/2 the price you buy it second hand. Ie a 4000 phone is hocked for 1000, or a 1000 will get 400.
There is a lingo that the wl only know and due to boredom I read my gf phone an see the goss, I am sure you could write a tv series just from one wl phone
Member #4491
05-18-11, 05:02
Enjoyed 4 hour Hilot sessions for 500p every second day with a private massage who was trained by a famour hilot in Cagayan at Tesda.Thank you for this report.
Can you please elaborate on this Hilot session? I would love a professional massage.
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Stroker Ace88
05-18-11, 19:08
Just to clarify they say "sell" when they have it on hock, they tell the punter it was stolen or lost. Most of the time you hold onto the phone for 1/4 to 1/2 the price you buy it second hand. Ie a 4000 phone is hocked for 1000, or a 1000 will get 400.Yes that's a common practice for alot of people in the Philippines to put there cell phone on loan or as they call it "donation" to the local pawn shop or sometimes a 5-6 will take a cell phone as collateral but for a bar girl to sell her cell phone is pretty rare unless she bought a newer model.
Stroker Ace88
05-18-11, 21:14
Well what to report?Excellent trip report Tout, very interesting as I knew most of the places you discussed with a few exceptions and it was good to read your POV on things.
I changed my digs this year from Crown Garden to a high end luxury condo that requires a 3 mos stay which had a hot tub fully furnished. Lcd tv, full american style kitchen, in suite laundry. 2 br with spring mattresses, fully serviced. Check out Tancor Cebu, if you have 40,000p plus to spend a mos on rent.Very good info, I will check them out when I return. You mentioned it's located in Mobolo, is it closer to Ayala, SM or the new Oasis condo development at the back of the golf course? Does it have a decent view or it is low-rise under 10 floors? Condotel? I am just trying to figure out where it's located. I checked it out online and it looks ok so any other info you can provide would be helpful. PM me if you want.
Jokers Arms is getting a bit worn after 3 years and service / manager supervising workers is lacking as I was short changed a few times but should survive with Badgers closed and the poker place next door and the food is still good, but the draft beer is way expensive and rarely is working nor tasting that great.Most of the draft beer in the Philippines sucks IMHO. Filipinos prefer warm beer in bottles drunk from a glass filled with ice so the draft beer often sits for a long time. Has anyone been to the poker place and played a few hands? Always wondered whats the deal with that place.
I still think the bar attached to Gustavian's in Banilad is the best for expats with a few bucks to quaff a few without getting smoked out if you are a non smoker. Great pizza place next door and of course Gustavian's is always superb. The sports bar above Juliana in Mango is still very good and a good place to visit before heading downstairs.I agree that Julianas or as its called now Avenue Julianas is a fun place to go and meet new people. I was at the grand opening of the Sports Exchange and talked with the owner who was from the UK but lived in Vancouver for awhile, nice guy but I haven't been back since. It's hiden away on the upper floor and with no windows I often forget it's there but I will have to visit again.
Enjoyed as usual Mr A's with their new cafe to shoot some pool and enjoy a romantic sunset, overview of Cebu.I was last at Mr. A back in 2009 for a nice dinner with a chatmate and her tambok sister who wanted to order the whole menu. Nice place but make sure if you go take a newer gasoline taxi as the LPG taxis have a very hard time to get up the hill close to Mr. A.
Wine Shop. Worth visiting during the tip for drinks not food. The Latin grooves are fine and are a welcome change to the standard singing style of most establishments, hotels, restaurants etc. Which I did not frequent much these days with exception to You Bar in Mango or Parkmall which are both good.Wine shop is good on a Friday or Saturday night, more customers and the live band makes it a nice place to take a girl. YOU bar on Mango is ok, depends on what band is there and with the smaller space inside it can get a little loud. If you want to sit outside you have to go around 9pm to get a table but the place has alot more groups and not so many freelancers and single girls as Julianas.
Penthouse, Pump1 and of course the top ticket Juliana for disco with the latter being a major tourist attraction with all the friendly natives willing to have a sleep over with anyone who rolls into town. Although I noticed many more regulars in there who use it as their pussy HQ. The place is a class act but they need to change the chairs and tables. They improved everything else.Regulars who use it as there Pussy HQ? Why didn't you come say Hi, seriously I would have bought you a SML LOL. The chairs and tables will not change since the Korean owner likes the look and so security can see what's going on under the tables and they can pack in more people in a smaller area.
Did not hang much in Fuente or in that general area. The lady bars that I visit now is Temptations. Vikings is getting too musty for me after visiting Cebu for so many years. Well I guess if it works don't fix it up? Not the case with Juliana it keeps getting better and better. It attracts all types from hard core pro's after servicing hang out to your average curious filipina out for a little night out on the town. It was even open on Holy Thursday. I guess it gets a special disposition. The rest of the town looked like a brownout..I have never been to Tempations and I will have to check it out. A few senior members posted here they will try to rip you off with extra mamasan drink fees and higher barfines so I always gave it a pass with the bad feedback. If you happend to stay late at Julianas they hold a "sexy girl competition" with the winner getting a bottle of tequila. It used to be held only on Thursday nights but any night that the club is still jumping at 3 or 4am they should have it.
Very impressed with Radisson Blu overall and had a grand tour of all the suites but too rich for my blue blood.I have never stayed here but I was offered a 1000P super promo room rate right after they opened late in 2010, but I was booked at another hotel for the week so had to decline. The promo was offered to a travel agent friend of mine based in Cebu and it was only good for one specific night. Too bad it didn't work out I would have liked to check it out. I am with you and find the 8000+ rate way too expensive for me, it's just not practical for someone who stays in Cebu for a few months at a time to spend that kind of money day after day it's like burning it IMHO. The girls might get all excited and jump up and down when they hear you are staying at the Blu but that just means to them they will ask for bigger and more expensive gifts when you walk around SM together.
Traffic is getting worse, especially around IT park. I am glad I moved locales to Mabolo, although my gym is at the Waterfront. The street level pollution is real noxious. The taxi drivers are getting worse slowly even with the recent jack up in prices.The taxi drivers are much better in Cebu than in most places, but you still have to watch the taxi drivers you hail in Lapux2 and some surrounding areas due to faster meters and demands for 'extra' payments on top of the listed fare, some are reasonable some not. The pollution is ever present and it's not getting any better with more and more cars and trucks on the roads every day. It's the older jeepnys and buses that are the worst offenders with the blackest smoke coming from the tailpipe, you would think they burned coal instead of gasol or diesoline.
On a more positive note, Pino in Lahug is still my favourite Pinoy restaurant and has a high end wine bar attached to if if you spend the big bucks dining. I just like the buffet lunches.Where is this resto located? I have not been but I would like to.
Ranch Restaurant near JollyBee in Talamban is doing fine with a shift to USDA meat only. No more Australian transplanted cows to Cagayan as S&R bumped his freezer space out. S&R sucks overall by the way as it is not the complete package to what we know as Costco. That might change. The last blowout sale had a few good bargains. I do go once in awhile. However it is hard to beat Ayala grocery store for the overall package.The S&R you talk about is that the Cosco-like place in Mandaue? Can anyone walk in and buy things or is it like Costco where you have to be a member? Is it easy to get a membership and whats the cost? On a related note has anyone been to the White Gold club? Is it similar to Costco? I have never been and any additional info would be useful.
Surf with SmartBro external USB device with many good prepaid plans now but no unlimited monthly plans yet. Switched to Globe for better quality IDD calls to North America. Smart Hello, is ok and cheaper a bit but I prefer the instant log in feature of Globe IDD prepaid service. I will try Skype next year.No unlimited internet plans from Smart, are you sure? What about Globe?
Member #4491
05-18-11, 23:01
Just landed in Cebu for a couple of days of punani before I move on to provincial Davao for some labour. More precisely I currently reside in Beverly Boutique Business Hotel close to the huge church, a stone throw from Mango and Disneyland. Simple but functional hotel, but my AC sounds like the jet plane I flew in with. I fail to see why anyone would label this a business hotel. Monkey business perhaps?
Ping me if your around and want to team up for a drink.
On the Smart Bro dongle issue. I find the unlimited surf packages quite useful. One can buy several different packages, depending on how many days you need and if you wish to be on-line always or spend less and have a max amount of data you get to download. Just start the software resident in / installed from the modem storage, click the URL and you get to view all the available packages.
Barba
I had a guy staying in my hotel and who went to lapu lapu to check out the street scene, he said it was kind of expensive 800 to 1000 pesos for ST. He rented a cab that drove him around the area, so I think he did get to the main spots.
I know there are Street workers downtown, around mcdonalds, and the main streets. As well as Street workers up at mango ave, some cute ones if you get there early I would say around 7 30 to 8 30 pm. Nice ones get picked up quickly, watch out of lady boys, quite a few.
Freelancers in the Julliana Disco, East to find them, but its not like they are stacked up to meet you either.
There has to be freelancers and street workers in other places besides theses main ones, Anyone have any infor on this?
Thanks
Gaijin Gigolo
05-19-11, 14:39
They're all over downtown Colon Street. Read back a few pages and you'll see the posts YOU made backing me up on the scene I described down there.... :-)
Freelancers in the Julliana Disco, East to find them, but its not like they are stacked up to meet you either.
There has to be freelancers and street workers in other places besides theses main ones, Anyone have any infor on this?
Thanks
Yes, I know they are downtown, I was looking for street girls in other areas bisides downtown and mango, and Lapu lapu.
How are the othe suburbs to cebu city or other areas like It park, SM mall area, Ayala mall area, Is there s street scene out there.
Thanks
Yes, I know they are downtown, I was looking for street girls in other areas bisides downtown and mango, and Lapu lapu.
How are the othe suburbs to cebu city or other areas like It park, SM mall area, Ayala mall area, Is there s street scene out there.
ThanksThey are pros at every mall, for street walkers the other ones I mentioned before robinson book store mango 10. 310655, 123. 895633, and the port service road 10. 306095, 123. 91561. You can also meet pimps out side volvo and jaguar but you will need to set a price before you waste time. I would just stick to the bars and junkera, unless you want one who looks like "x" then spend the time looking the street.
I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. Hehe
They are pros at every mall, for street walkers the other ones I mentioned before robinson book store mango 10. 310655, 123. 895633, and the port service road 10. 306095, 123. 91561. You can also meet pimps out side volvo and jaguar but you will need to set a price before you waste time. I would just stick to the bars and junkera, unless you want one who looks like "x" then spend the time looking the street.
I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. HeheI not sure if frenzy3 has done much as same as his post befour, re getting stds. And I think he is dreaming about how it works.
I not sure if frenzy3 has done much as same as his post befour, re getting stds. And I think he is dreaming about how it works.Unlike you I have posted photos of my girls, even one with me in it. I been in cebu for 4 years, and I love cebu, my mates who come here like what we do. So if I going about it wrong YMMV. Enjoy your view as I enjoy cebu
Just organised my 4th trip to phillipines and my 2nd trip to cebu, last time I was there was early 2010.
Been away from mongering for a while with work and girl friend, but looking forward to this trip. Been reading previous reports and so far, seems like there has been few changes. And as this will be my only trip for the year so I'm reaching out for some help for those cebu members that knows the place like 1+1.
I'm staying at crown regency tower once again as I liked the hotel and the facilities, but last time I was able to get great massages from the spa center that is located inside the hotel but they were bit pricey and even though they were pleasant it was certain that extra services won't be provided, so I was wondering if there are some places that offer extra services in cebu city that other members might recommend? It seems like some members tend to get their dia contacts to come over for a massage and only spa places that were mentioned here are, Finland spa and Hana Valley.
Silver dollar had fire incident, is the place still next to crown regency and everything the same?
Last time I checked out mango square and the clubs and bars near by, but this time would like to try something little bit more upscale place. But seems like jaguar is closed so would my next best option be arena? Or mactan island mermaid?
I know you can wait for the girls to finish their shift and pick them up at juliana but would like to check the place out just to see what it is all about.
Also planning to go to Shangaria resort mactan for the swimming pool and beach during the day, is there any other place say within 1 hours taxi ride that members might recommend?
Once again thank you so much for all the info this place has provided me over my many trips, I'm still a toddler in early 20's so please don't give me a knock out punch if I seemed to have asked some silly questions.
And I will post after the trip! Thank you
Member #4351
05-20-11, 16:03
CrazyKido, my cynical question would be; if you are in your early 20's, unless you look like Quasimodo, what are you doing on ISG?
KyCuriosity
05-20-11, 17:06
CrazyKido, my cynical question would be; if you are in your early 20's, unless you look like Quasimodo, what are you doing on ISG?There's several answers to that question. Maybe he does look like quasimodo. Maybe he's overweight? Or has a huge wart. Maybe he's a preacher needing to hide his true intentions from his family. Or just possibly, he's too shy to talk about sex in his home country. Going out of the country, he might find the "establishment" a little easier to find sex without wondering if he's making the right moves or not. Who cares why a early 20's is here. I was lurking on this site before it became a. Info web address. I was in my 20's then as well, but I was way too shy to talk to other women in the US even though I am (was) good looking. I would rather have the structured "I pay you / you give me sex" routine. It's much easier. That's the exact reason I'm here. Oh yeah, maybe he has the asian fever and not enough asians where he's from. Not that I know anything about Asian fever at all!
Member #4351
05-20-11, 20:10
A Western guy in his early 20s in Cebu would just have to walk around to get all the pussy he could manage even if he had two huge warts (which could be easily removed for what a Jaguar girl would cost him). He also mentioned that he had a GF, so he can´t be all that shy. I didn't want to get into racial themes, but even if he is from one of the Filipino's less appreciated countries he doesn't need to be on ISG or paying for it. But hey, if he prefers to go to places like Jaguar and spend a lot of money, that's as they say in LOS;"up to him".
Chocha Monger
05-20-11, 21:03
I am giving you my experience living with a ex WL for 4yrs, she has ex work mate who tell her (and me)" I have a problem" so we hold on to the cell phone until the funds are paid back. Even for 400 peso they need a loan until the next barfine.
The city health Hy genie check is not for all STD's so why risk it until you pay for a real test?
I am pointing out that when you pick up from a bar you have some safety there, the mall and street girls are the ones I would never risk. Junkera do have hygenie the last time I checked so I do not classify them as street, national book store mango, colon and the road down near the water are the street girl risk areas. I posted this after I read the guy who got some thing, I was pointing out it is better to get the girls checked rather than you getting some thing, so if I am wrong enjoy your next BBsex and not complain that you get some thing for life. The girl I know who got aids was working in a bar and use to sex clients with out condoms she thought she had fever.
Like I said I giving you advice on what I have seen, you have a different experience, one thing I will say if a WL say use a condom use one, as she is worried about giving you some thing, she knows she has may "have a problem"
I only joined this forum for my trip to india, I am in cebu now till aug so I am posting between girls. But another forum I use is similar with guys boasting how the sex wl with out condoms then some would complain that they got a STDFrenzy,
A lot of mongers are avid barebackers. Even those who use condoms do so selectively and have certain girls they deem safe for barebacking. So when you post a scary story about being afflicted by a strain of Asian super claps and your dick nearly falling off it scares people and they will attack you. It's not personal but the fear and denial is very real. :eek:
Frenzy,
A lot of mongers are avid barebackers. Even those who use condoms do so selectively and have certain girls they deem safe for barebacking. So when you post a scary story about being afflicted by a strain of Asian super claps and your dick nearly falling off it scares people and they will attack you. It's not personal but the fear and denial is very real. . I was not the person who got the STD I was posting my reply to the guy who did. I said it is cheeper to get the girl tested rather than cure the STD
I will keep to bb my gf1 and gf2 (they live in my house). Any other girl I use a condom until I get her tested. I have seen plenty of the street girls in cebu and none would I sex with out a condom.
I get all types of girls in Cebu and hear all the stories. Do not think a wl is telling you the truth you are a meal ticket. They have less of an idea of STD than punters. I live here and get all the news from the girls fist hand. I do not care that guys get what ever they get as they bb wl. I have my toys parked in the garage and when I rent I use caution.
FreebieFan
05-21-11, 03:52
, that's as they say in LOS;"up to him".I thought they said " up to you " LOL.
Went to red lips last night, did not see any girl worth to bar fine, there was 2 that where ok, so I not asked the BF price, I read some where it about 1600 (any one knows please correct me)
If you go there go before 9 as the place has limited seats, the bar area is where the girls hang out so if you want to mix with the girls sit at the bar.
Else it is nice place to drink and watch
Yes Mattricks, still waiting for us to connect once again in Cebu. I enjoyed those Cerv Neg at Marco Polo with the pizza of course last time. Most higher end establishments offer it but I just stock up at home buying 20 bottles at a time as many store keep limited quantities.
Temptations is a nice place for a drink. Less smokey nice positive layout but it is a hard sell. That's why I only go with my gf in tow. This way I am not bothered. I noticed less of the hard core expats drinking there this year and a significant decline in numbers of girls. But overall much better than average when you compare it with 80% of the no charge entry gro bars that are cramped and dingy and smokey for the most part. What use is the friendly ambience of Silver Dollar for instance when you are dying of smoke inhalation? I go to SD for the early bird drink before the smokers take over the place. This is the only thing Davao has over Cebu. No smoking policy is strictly enforced. Not being sanctimonious but I prefer fresh air and fresh disease free pussy. Probably the location sucks.
As to the massage guy I won't pass on his number as I do not want to share in case the price increases or his availability declines. Same policy applies to WL. If and when I stay long term in Cebu I prob hire him as domestic helper. 500 p for four hours is too much.
Tancor 2 is 7-8 floors and is located behind jazz and blues. There is Tancor 1 not far away but hard to get single 1br as most Koreans students with money live there.
I would ask the owner of Juliana to use the same style of chairs and tables but just buy new ones and make the seat a little bit bigger with more hard foam in case we ingest too much liquid calories.
Pino is near JY Square all taxi drivers know it. It is owned by Lhul. It is a real gem. Best tasting value Pinoy buffet imop for lunch.
S& R is like 800p to be a member. Bring your passport and join on site. You would go there once a month or so and their booze selection is one of the best in town. New Zealand meat is superb. Almost as good as Ireland, where I am heading this July to Ballybunion for a family reunion.
No monthly unlimited for prepaid Smart Bro. But yes there is unlimited just for a few days.
I think Globe is same or I would have switched or Smart would have matched the offer.
Smart Bro is the better service. I returned my Globe Tattoo.
My vacation is getting close, so I have some questions that I could not find any infor by reading the forum.
-I will be in cebu in August. I know its not the best time, rainy season, but is August really so bad? I know weather is relative and unpredictable subject but should I expect extreme weather conditions?
-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.
-My plan is basicly like that: Daytime waste my time at the hotel pool, socialize and waste more time at the malls, meet my FH girls, nite time visit discos (Julianas, Pump) , high end places (Arena, Jaguar, etc. Will get an update before I leave) , and some bikini bars (SD if reopened, Dimples, Viking etc. Again will get an update before I leave). If the weather is good maybe I can visit Bohol. Anything else I should consider about? Any recommendations will be much appreciated.
Thanks in advance.
Stroker Ace88
05-22-11, 17:42
Tancor 2 is 7-8 floors and is located behind jazz and blues. There is Tancor 1 not far away but hard to get single 1br as most Koreans students with money live there.
I would ask the owner of Juliana to use the same style of chairs and tables but just buy new ones and make the seat a little bit bigger with more hard foam in case we ingest too much liquid calories.
Pino is near JY Square all taxi drivers know it. It is owned by Lhul. It is a real gem. Best tasting value Pinoy buffet imop for lunch.
S& R is like 800p to be a member. Bring your passport and join on site. You would go there once a month or so and their booze selection is one of the best in town. New Zealand meat is superb. Almost as good as Ireland, where I am heading this July to Ballybunion for a family reunion.
No monthly unlimited for prepaid Smart Bro. But yes there is unlimited just for a few days.
I think Globe is same or I would have switched or Smart would have matched the offer.
Smart Bro is the better service. I returned my Globe Tattoo. Tout01,
Thanks for the reply and your additional info on S&R, Tancor and Pino will be put to good use.
Pino is owned by the L'Luillier clan, interesting. They pretty much rule Cebu with a pawnshop on every corner and are considered Cebu royality and mingle in the highest of circles within the Philippines. If you go to Blu Bar or happen to visit City Lights with a mountain view you can see the L'Luillier mansion on the hill at Monterrazas. Multi-level with its own elevator and security.
Member #4351
05-22-11, 17:53
I thought they said " up to you " LOL.Yes, but that wouldn't have been grammatically correct so I modified it.
-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.Are you under 30 and look like a young Brad Pitt?
If so, then you may do very well. However, you will have to find the few who hang out with their female friends. If any Korean guys are involved, even just friends, you will get incessantly cockblocked.
If you're over 30, your chances are nil (deduct 10% chance with each year past 30) If you're overweight / fat your chances are nil. If you're bald / balding your chances are nil.
Ability to speak Korean would help mightily.
Are you under 30 and look like a young Brad Pitt?
If so, then you may do very well.
If you're over 30, your chances are nil. If you're overweight / fat your chances are nil. If you're bald / balding your chances are nil.
Ability to speak Korean would help mightily.Well, I am under 30 (29) , but I resemble Burt Reynolds (without a moustache) more than Brad Pitt. Still have a chance? I am not fat / overweight (maybe bigboned haha) , and I m not bald / balding (but hairy like wolwerine).
I only know how to say Hello, in Korean and that is Annyong, I learned that from Arrested Development. Is kimchi korean? I guess I know 2 words hehe.
I made a scientific approach to this problem. I set accounts at many cupid sites. (hk-China-phils-Thailand-korea-japan). And I do nothing, just log in from time to time. And I just collect interests / winks. As you can guess phils is the best country for freebies. You can get +50 winks / interests per day. China is also good but I mainly attract girls from smaller provinces which I have no intention to visit so when you limit yourself to Beijing and Shanghai, its still good but not even close to Phils. Thailand is also good but finding a non bg english speaker is hard. But you will get interests / winks no matter what. For HK numbers are dwindling, I was targeted by older age group, and the looks of the ladies are not that great. I managed to get 2 interests / winks per day. And domestic helpers are included in that number. Korea is even worse. Just a 20 interests in 1 month. And Japan is the worst. Only a few interests and girls barely view my profile.
So I know it s not easy but not impossible.
GregLondon
05-23-11, 06:03
This morning had a text from a girl who said she was a friend of one of my contacts. After the usual text tennis I went to meet her texting, then a very very cute girl emerged from behind a pillar. She had told me she was 18 by text but looked even fresher so I asked her. I asked her and she said 16. So I immediately said, sorry you can't come to my place, call me in two years time, and went back to my pad. There followed a series of folow up texts saying "I'm really 18" " Do you have I'd to prove it","No but I can prove it when we have sex"," How will you do that","I can drive you in sex". So there we have it, the new I'd.
It's too bad, she was seriously cute, but any involvement in this type of situation is a recipe for expensive blackmail.
FreebieFan
05-23-11, 07:08
This morning had a text from a girl who said she was a friend of one of my contacts. After the usual text tennis I went to meet her texting, then a very very cute girl emerged from behind a pillar. She had told me she was 18 by text but looked even fresher so I asked her. I asked her and she said 16. So I immediately said, sorry you can't come to my place, call me in two years time, and went back to my pad. There followed a series of folow up texts saying "I'm really 18" " Do you have I'd to prove it","No but I can prove it when we have sex"," How will you do that","I can drive you in sex". So there we have it, the new I'd.
It's too bad, she was seriously cute, but any involvement in this type of situation is a recipe for expensive blackmail.Smart move!
On subject of I'd's I got a cute girl a ticket to Manila on my last trip. She showed her voters cert as her I'd at check in. Later I told her to get a proper I'd as not everyone accepts such I'd. She's 20 but looks 16.
She went to get her birth cert copied as preparation for her I'd and found out the Christian name on it isn't quite the same as what she thought it was. Talk about a girl in shock. She just thought that the name her Dad called her was her name.
I have had luck on FB with students, but for now I am sending my contacts to the province to get me what I want, as I want one to stay home all the time and not have FB. For me it the experience. I get bored easily. HeheSome of my best contacts / GF were procured by locals and don't go online!
GregLondon
05-23-11, 13:05
One of my more naughty friends came around today to tell of her adventures last night. She and a friend had had a night out at Mango's after a few too many drinks she left around 2am and then realized her purse had been stolen.
Without a peso on her she was wandering around wondering how to get home when a car pulled up to offer her a lift home. Turned out to be the local Priest who she recognised. He took her to short time hotel and fucked her before dropping her home and on to a drugs session. Warned her not to tell anyone on the grounds that there are special angels who look after priests and would strike her down if she blabbed. Shés still standing nevertheless,
I'm staying at crown regency tower once again as I liked the hotel and the facilities, but last time I was able to get great massages from the spa center that is located inside the hotel but they were bit pricey and even though they were pleasant it was certain that extra services won't be provided, so I was wondering if there are some places that offer extra services in cebu city that other members might recommend?
Last time I checked out mango square and the clubs and bars near by, but this time would like to try something little bit more upscale place. But seems like jaguar is closed so would my next best option be arena? Or mactan island mermaid?
Also planning to go to Shangaria resort mactan for the swimming pool and beach during the day, is there any other place say within 1 hours taxi ride that members might recommend? Have not been to a lingam massage since a few were busted last year as reported here on this thread. But I'm sure it is business as usual by now. Check Duke's Spa or Chuva Chuva. It has also been reported that Crown Regency has a 24 hour massage available at their Guadalupe locale.
BTW, Crown Regency Towers has a KTV but have not heard any intel on the club. Hopefully you can check the place out and report back!
Jaguar is back open and was only closed a few days. Yes Arena would be another option in Cebu City. Would not make a special trip to Mermaid unless you were already in Lapu2x as the place can be hit or miss. A hit if the Koreans / Japanese have not been there yet! Have you tried I. B. C?
Shangri-La has a day rate available which includes their lunch buffet. Many other resorts in that area have a day use fee. But if you have the time and gumption, head in either direction up or down the coast as there are many resorts available. Liloan is close enough to the city and has some nice resorts by the sea.
-I will be in cebu in August. I know its not the best time, rainy season, but is August really so bad? I know weather is relative and unpredictable subject but should I expect extreme weather conditions?
-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before. Would not worry too much about the weather in Cebu as most of the typhoons batter Luzon. But there is a typhoon heading towards the PI as we speak which is out of season to say the least!
Had the chance to take advantage of some inebriated Korean women at Club Pump but unfortunately I was with someone already. Would also check out Sunflower on ladies night since they have a dance contest and Korean women always show up!
I visited Chuva Chuva in January, my second visit there. Cost was 1200 for prostate massage and hand job, with a mediocre massage leading up to the final event. You are not allowed to select a girl beforehand, even though last time I protested. They do offer you your money back if you don't like the girl and I have no reason to suspect that they would renege on this. The girl I had last time (in fact both times) was nothing special at all, they were in their early 20s and not particularly attractive. On both occasions sex was flatly turned down despite me offering substantially more money. The prostate massage is nice but it was performed externally by massaging gently underneath my balls, but it seemed to work as I had a very strong orgasm and nearly squirted myself in my eye. I have had prostate massages where the girl actually inserts her lubricated fingers inside your backside and that is an experience in itself, though I admit not to everyone's taste. I guess I am just an incorrigble pevert!
Chuva Chuva is a short walk from Robinsons Mall on the same side of the road as the Diplomat Hotel
Chuva Chuva is a short walk from Robinsons Mall on the same side of the road as the Diplomat HotelNext time you are in town you must try their Mabolo branch as you will be pleasantly surprised!
Chuva*2 Robinson ask for Lezel you will like what you see and yes the mobolo one has some cute girls there. From what I know most of the girls working there will not offer sex on the premises but if you want a gf you might get lucky.
-I am willing to try my chance with Korean ladies (freebies). Anybody have luck with that, is there really a "chance" to talk about? Where is the best place to achieve that? Mactan area? Would really like to know if anyone tried this path before.I live in Korea. And Korean girls aren't quite as fussy as the other fella mentioned. I'm over 30 and fat. And have no trouble with the local ladies. Two things though. You NEED to speak Korean well to get anywhere with MOST Korean women. Korean women generally don't do one night stands. I had a couple of one nighters with Korean women in the Phils. But never in Korea. So I guess they're more likely to do that on vacation. Generally. Girls who smoke are your best bet. The saying here is 'if she smokes, she pokes." The idea being that if a girl breaks the social taboo about women smoking, then she might break other taboos like one night stands.
My advice. There's a reason why Korean men go the Phils to monger! Unless you can pick up the language, stick with the locals!
Happy hunting!
Guys,
I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.
Kyle
Member #4147
05-24-11, 20:09
Guys,
I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.
KyleAll of the better hotels in Cebu and Bangkok seem to have reliable internet I. E, Hilton, Radisson, Marriott, etc in both cities. Generators kick in quickly if there is a power outage and assuming you're using a laptop a dongle in your USB, Globe Tatoo works for me in Cebu, or SmartBro makes for a decent backup.
LOL. Brother Cebu is not "the sticks", it's the 2nd largest city in Philippines. The internet and the women are just fine in Cebu.
Plus, you sound like a newbie. In Cebu you probably won't get "taken" as often as Manila.
Enjoy
Guys,
I am looking to visit the Philippines and Thailand over 2 weeks time, starting next week. I need to work remotely. Can I bank on reliable internet from 8am. 5pm in any of the best hotels in Cebu or do they all experience Internet and / or power outages daily? If that is the case, I may stick to Manila.
Kyle
I live in Korea. And Korean girls aren't quite as fussy as the other fella mentioned. I'm over 30 and fat. And have no trouble with the local ladies. Two things though. You NEED to speak Korean well to get anywhere with MOST Korean women. Korean women generally don't do one night stands. I had a couple of one nighters with Korean women in the Phils. But never in Korea. So I guess they're more likely to do that on vacation. Generally. Girls who smoke are your best bet. The saying here is 'if she smokes, she pokes." The idea being that if a girl breaks the social taboo about women smoking, then she might break other taboos like one night stands.
My advice. There's a reason why Korean men go the Phils to monger! Unless you can pick up the language, stick with the locals!
Happy hunting! Actually, Korean women aren't bad at all for one night stands. Often that's what offered a lot more than any kind of relationship because she doesn't want the questions and social stigma that comes with dating a foreigner. What do you think happens at Korean booking clubs?
If you do well at your age and weight, congrats but you are the definitive exception, rather than the rule, and we won't get into the quality of the women you may snag. Generally speaking, almost every K girl dating a foreigner I've seen is very much of a plain jane (or worse). If you're the exception again, congrats.
Otherwise I fully agree with your post. Speaking Korean helps exponentially and your odds are much better when they're on vacation outside of Korea (which is the case with all women actually of all nationalities). I'd think a place like Boracay would be much better than Cebu for such purposes.
Jaguar is back open and was only closed a few days. Yes Arena would be another option in Cebu City. Would not make a special trip to Mermaid unless you were already in Lapu2x as the place can be hit or miss. A hit if the Koreans / Japanese have not been there yet! Have you tried I. B. C?Jaguar was still closed last time I went there and I am told is still closed.
What do you know that I do not know? Is there a new jaguar. Can I go direct to the boarding house now?
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/breaking-news/2011/05/27/cebu-ktv-bar-ordered-closed-157845
I do not think it will reopen soon
AKA: Happy Hunting Ground? Arriving this week, info much appreciated. Also, is there anyplace that is more scummy / sleazy than Colon / Jonquiera? Did someone mention something about street action on a port road? Just askin. .
Elwoody
3rd largest. Davao is larger then cebu.
LOL. Brother Cebu is not "the sticks", it's the 2nd largest city in Philippines. The internet and the women are just fine in Cebu.
Plus, you sound like a newbie. In Cebu you probably won't get "taken" as often as Manila.
Enjoy
jaguar was still closed last time i went there and i am told is still closed.
i do not think it will reopen soonone of my peeps who used to work there told me they were back in business.
sorry about that as i will scold her!
nice timely article, thanks for the link! wonder where the 100+ girls work now! ?
3rd largest. davao is larger then cebu.actually, davao city is one of the largest cities in the world; in area!
metro cebu city including mandaue and lapu-lapu is over 2 million, second largest!
one of my peeps who used to work there told me they were back in business.
sorry about that as i will scold her!
nice timely article, thanks for the link! wonder where the 100+ girls work now! ? i am told some went infinity, i found a few at love city, but i wish they open the boarding house. give gate3 a run for its money.
3rd largest. Davao is larger then cebu.If you're going by Metro Politian Areas, Manila is number 1, Cebu is number 2, and Davao is number 3. If you are going by individual Cities Davao is number 3 and Cebu is number four.
1) Quezon City: Population. 2,679, 450 2) Manila: Population. 1,660, 714, Caloocan: 1, 378, 856, Davao: 1, 464, 301, and Cebu: 798, 809
If you're going by Metro Politian Areas, Manila is number 1, Cebu is number 2, and Davao is number 3. If you are going by individual Cities Davao is number 3 and Cebu is number four.
1) Quezon City: Population. 2,679, 450 2) Manila: Population. 1,660, 714, Caloocan: 1, 378, 856, Davao: 1, 464, 301, and Cebu: 798, 809This has all the ingredients for becoming a full-blown, nit-picking argument; all over the population of a few Filipino cities.
Some of you guys have way too much time on your hands LOL
(BTW, I am not joining the argument nor trying to start a new one hehehe)
Who f*king cares which city is larger in population and size? The main points of any argument in PI should be where the nice girls to bang, nice but affordable hotels, and good but cheap restaurants are!
Shit you guys sound like a bunch of chatty-pissed off pinays!
Like Red Kilt says, you guys have tooooo much free time. All this wasted time should be invested on our main goal as mongers to. Get laid!
Questor 55
05-31-11, 17:29
When you fly over a city at night, the entire built up, lit up area, is the main determiner re size.
Cebu, including its suburbs, from Talisay to Compostela and Mactan Island, make it #2.
Davao is MUCH smaller and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu.
Member #4491
06-01-11, 01:17
Thank you for the advice on hotels. Had two great nights in Cebu. Did DIA girls and one "GF" that I have trained from zero to deep penetration. Hotel Elisabeth was simple but sufficient. Strategic location close to the big church and the good bars at "Mango". A newfound mate showed me to Pump and the sexy girls where in abundance. Just so much better than Davao (where I normally hang) IMHO. More girls, easier to deal with (to get the panties off) , not so religious and conservative and most of all the girls are generally prettier. Saw several slim and available girls at Pump. Had one DIA girl visiting me and she is just such a cock addicted teen. Not super pretty but god she just fucked and sucked with such passion, gagging included. We had agreed on the price and she did not continue just to get a tip. She was just a cock addict. A punk rocker nympho. She told me that she does gang bangs with her Italian boyfriend. She would just sit there on her knees in the shower and stare at the cock, suck it a bit and the go "I love cocks so much" and then gag on it.
Next trip to Cebu I will schedule some more nights in this resourceful city.
Barba
Marconista
06-01-11, 08:15
Nobody asks me, but I think what Questor is saying is the important issue on this board. ;)
... and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu.
Had one DIA girl visiting me and she is just such a cock addicted teen. Not super pretty but god she just fucked and sucked with such passion, gagging included. We had agreed on the price and she did not continue just to get a tip. She was just a cock addict. A punk rocker nympho. She told me that she does gang bangs with her Italian boyfriend. She would just sit there on her knees in the shower and stare at the cock, suck it a bit and the go "I love cocks so much" and then gag on it.
Next trip to Cebu I will schedule some more nights in this resourceful city.
BarbaWow you have a hot girl there she was easy on the eyes, it was nice to show you around we need to catch up next time you are in town.
Thank you for the advice on hotels. Had two great nights in Cebu. Did DIA girls and one "GF" that I have trained from zero to deep penetration. Hotel Elisabeth was simple but sufficient. Strategic location close to the big church and the good bars at "Mango".Sounds like you are referring to the Beverly Boutique! ?
Member #4491
06-01-11, 21:49
Wow you have a hot girl there she was easy on the eyes, it was nice to show you around we need to catch up next time you are in town.Yes, she is definitely a meet again girl. Slim and cute with a balanced personality.
Hope to catch you next trip.
B
Member #4491
06-01-11, 21:50
Sounds like you are referring to the Beverly Boutique! ?Yes, my mistake. Beverly Boutique or (previously) Eddies as someone called it.
B
When you fly over a city at night, the entire built up, lit up area, is the main determiner re size.
Cebu, including its suburbs, from Talisay to Compostela and Mactan Island, make it #2.
Davao is MUCH smaller and most importantly, has far fewer eligible girl options than Cebu. You seem to be talking about the island of cebu and not the city of cebu, whereas other gent was talking about the city of davao and not mindanao per se. Apples and oranges. Correct me if I am wrong. But I agree, cebu city leaves davao city for dead, in more ways than one. If you can't stand the competition in cebu city, go to Davao city, there is none, LOL.
Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.
We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.
Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.
Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.
I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.
Also.
One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. 2 of my girls saw this and said something to me, I think they prefer not see gay men in public kissing, I also think the guy did not even relise he had ladyboys he looked drunk and dumb, he did not look gay and I had seen him trying to pick up other girls before the ladyboys sat down, to me it is quite clear which girls are freelancers there rather than sit down and not move arround go to their tables and order the girls some drinks, talk to them they are humans, if you sit and not move you will be targeted by the lady boys,
Damn I wish this site had edit.
The reason you move around is you find a lady only table, try your "luck" there, my gf1 had a guy try pick her up on her way to the CR, when you see two girls walking it does not mean that they have no dates, they do leave the table to move around, so go look at the table they go to see where they are at and watch. No one tried to talk to my girls at my table even though I had 5 girls with me, I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst,
FreebieFan
06-04-11, 08:30
Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.
We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.
Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.
Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.
I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. I thought we were all foreigners here. Whether you are on an anti foreigner rant or not, were all foreign to each other. If you are Pinoy then you sure as heck are a foreigner to most of us.
If you non Filipino then you are also a foreigner. Which actually makes you one of the ones you are ranting on about. The world has something like 190 countries according to one definition. That means 189 of them belong to a different country to yours. Lots of foreigners out there. Including you.
FreebieFan
06-04-11, 08:35
Also.
One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. He looked drunk and dumb.Lets all tar and brush anyone different to you with some big broad strokes. Yeah nothing like a little discrimination. Not sure where you are from but presumably all the people in all your great nation (whichever it is, behave perfectly properly, never burp fart, always use correct grammar, pay with correct change, never curse a bad driver, never look with lust at another countrymans girl, always floss, always make sure belt and shoe colour match etc. Lighten up. Have a little more fun and a little less frenzy.
FreebieFan
06-04-11, 08:39
Damn I wish this site had edit.
I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst.Great info. This will be well appreciated by those who might never have been to a disco outside of their home country.
Altho of course in a great many cases, we have picked up the locals gf in a great many places, done them, made a contribution and then let the local boy have sloppy seconds. . LOL. Guess you might want to forewarn the local boys. Extra large LOL.
Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.
We had our table inside and while dancing on the stage some foreigner guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite us having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table. So we moved to a out side table.
Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.
One of the 5 guys picked up some ladyboys and started kissing mouth to mouth in public. 2 of my girls saw this and said something to me, I think they prefer not see gay men in public kissing, I also think the guy did not even relise he had ladyboys he looked drunk and dumb, he did not look gay and I had seen him trying to pick up other girls before the ladyboys sat down, to me it is quite clear which girls are freelancers there rather than sit down and not move arround go to their tables and order the girls some drinks, talk to them they are humans, if you sit and not move you will be targeted by the lady boys,
The reason you move around is you find a lady only table, try your "luck" there, my gf1 had a guy try pick her up on her way to the CR, when you see two girls walking it does not mean that they have no dates, they do leave the table to move around, so go look at the table they go to see where they are at and watch. No one tried to talk to my girls at my table even though I had 5 girls with me, I use to go there with other local boys and their gf, if you try pick up a locals gf at a disco expect the worst,
Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.
I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years.
Ps admin you can delete the other 3 post I did bellow
You can edit your posts and delete them but there is only a short window of opportunity to do so, I think it is about 1 hour. Once you submit your report, preview it and once you have edited it you can post it. Even once it is posted you can edit it or delete it during the 1 hour window. I find it surprising how many guys forget to use this function.
As regards foreigners picking up girls at local discos, I don't think it is such a minefield as you suggest provided you are not rude, not drunk and keep your conversation polite. It you make eye contact with a girl and smile, if she has a bf in tow she will normally not reciprocate. If you do talk to her and you are not sure about her status then just keep the conversation that you initiate polite and bland so that it cannot be construed as hitting on the girl. Sadly some foreigners do think and act like they are superior to everyone else and sometimes behave like morons. I once had the misfortune of meeting such a guy myself but soon offloaded him.
Stroker Ace88
06-04-11, 09:37
Went there last night and I have to mention the foreigners I saw act like jerks, I was in the que with 5 of my girls and 2 guys with their bar girls decide to jump the que. Prob thinking the pina girls where just locals, the pushed their money into the cashier, I told them there was a que and the cashier gave them their money back.To be fair if you visit Julianas on a regular basis you will always see a handful of young woman hanging out talking with the cashier, and they do this because the Korean owner sits right behind the cashier and most of the girls are hoping to catch his eye and be called over to his table. He sits there most nights before midnight watching discreetly who goes in and possibly making sure that everyone pays the entrance fee.
We had our table inside and while dancing another on the stage guy with his barfine sits down at our table, despite we having our drinks there, we decided just to get another table.
Out side there was guys just fishing for locals at one time was 5 tables in a row with a single guy just trying to pick up girls, one was calling out to any girl even girl with their pino boy friend and you wonder why some pino boys attack foreigners.
Then some really drunk staggering foreigners walk up wanting to get in, but was turned away as one the guy was being prompt up he was legless, they came back with out him and latter one guy fell over on a local table smashing the drinks and injuring them, they then ran off, a few locals once they realized that they bolted went looking for them.
I not been there for 2 years now, my gf1 told me that prefers the local discos where foreigners are not welcome, it will be interesting to see what happens in the next 2 years. I agree things have changed alot in the past few years for the worse both around Mango and in Cebu City. Gone are the days when a foreigner walks around and gets that "surprised look" that now exisists only outside major cities and into the provinces.
Too many drunken idiots around for sure and those who do not treat everyone with respect will one day figure out the hard way when they step on the toes of someone who is connected just how cheap life can be in the Philippines. Either they will wake up beaten some where because they were rude drunken idiots and tried to pickup a woman and her BF and his friends decide to teach the guy a lesson. Maybe the girl you just promised to marry then dumped after banging her silly for the last week gets her uncle who is PNP to make a search of your bags at the airport and finds planted shabu and you will be facing serious jail time.
I am surprised more foreigners don't end up that way for there bad behavior, but most of the time locals treat the foreigners with respect and often look the other way when they act rude or misbehave. But attitudes and patience is wearing thin.
You wondered what Cebu will be like in two years, my guess is it will all change. With the 30+ condo towers already planned and alot more to be proposed before the condo deadline 3 yrs from now comes into effect things will look very different. Even Mango will change with the addition of the massive Horizon101 twin 58 story towers to be built next to Mango Square.
Stroker Ace88
06-04-11, 09:47
You can edit your posts and delete them but there is only a short window of opportunity to do so, I think it is about 1 hour. Once you submit your report, preview it and once you have edited it you can post it. Even once it is posted you can edit it or delete it during the 1 hour window. I find it surprising how many guys forget to use this function.To the best of my knowledge a regular member can not edit there post, only senior members can. A regular member can post but it will not show up until it has been viewed by a moderator and cleared, hence the confusion and multiple posts for some regular members when they do not see the message posted right away.
To the best of my knowledge a regular member can not edit there post, only senior members can. A regular member can post but it will not show up until it has been viewed by a moderator and cleared, hence the confusion and multiple posts for some regular members when they do not see the message posted right away.Yes you are correct my mistake
Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.
Ok, now you can fire away
Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.
Ok, now you can fire awayMackin.
You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd!
Realizing that everyone does not have English as a first language could we try to use some basic writing skills. Examples are periods, commas, and capitol letters at the beginning of a sentence. I don't believe these are english rules of grammar only. It is really hard to read a paragraph that is one sentence.
Ok, now you can fire awayApart from misspelling "capitol", you should also have put a comma after language and a question mark at the end of your first sentence.
FreebieFan
06-05-11, 13:07
Mackin.
You might want to start with yourself. The word 'capitol' used in the context above should be spelt as 'capital', the word 'english' should be capitalised as 'English' and the word 'realizing' should be spelt as 'realising' (unless of course you are American where slightly different rules of spelling apply). I have never heard of the word 'period' in the context of grammar, only as an excuse from a bar girl who did not want to be bf'd! An Americanism (is there such a word?) for what we frenzied foreigners might otherwise might know as a full stop. That little dot that separates sentences.
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