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Mbsl65
11-02-11, 11:32
Great list. Thank you very much. I already copied and pasted into my Evernote.


Top Hills and Mountain View in Busay (My Area)

Zipline in Busay and also Liloan.

Sky Coaster at Crown regency which is next to Robinsons or next to Silver dollar.

Mactan beach resorts. I personally like the local cheap ones like Marigondon and Hadson Beach myself.

Mactan Beach Jet Ski and Parasailing.

Bantayan Island My number one pick and where the Govenor stays is Hoyohoy Villas.

Bohol Island. Tarsiars and Chocolate Hills.

Colon Street. Take a guide.

I am not into visiting churches but most people visit St Nino in Colon.

South Car Car for umpo and Chichiran (SP) Pork Skins. Beaches further south and resorts.

Southwest Moalboal Famous for water Falls and diving. Probably the Number 1 tourist destination in Cebu.

All I can think of right now. Pm me for more information.

Mbsl65
11-02-11, 11:37
Religious holidays kind of slowed the action down. Only the desperate ones are around. I still had my fun but quality went down.

My 23 yrs old keeping me very good company, but they all get clingy. Tonight I will meet two more girls from DIA. Never met them before. I need to go and put my charm on.

Mbsl65
11-02-11, 16:20
I followed this advice and I almost ended up with two ladyboys. Darn, they are so woman like. However, the voice and shoe size won't give them a break. .


Good advise from below, I will use it on the next trip.

"After smiling at you the girl will continue to walk and stop at the next corner. It is the invitation for you to approach her. If the girl does not stop she is not available."

Mbsl65
11-02-11, 16:23
I ended up with a #10 27yrs old women. No kids, very educated and so so in bed. But every time I looked into her body, I wanted to go more round. Thanks DIA. BTW, she would not even take taxi money from me. Talk about quality

Bloomberg
11-02-11, 20:10
Well, there are always fireigners looking for girls at ayala. Ofcourse there are girls as well looking for a foreigner. Just be carefull as there are normal girls who smile with curiousity.

What I have observed is this although I have never picked a girl up mainly because I have a regular firlfriend every time I am in Cebu.

After smiling at you the girl will continue to walk and stop at the next corner. It is the invitation for you to approach her. If the girl does not stop she is not available. Sometimes girls do smile if you are eating alonf at one of the fast food joints.

Discos are tricky. The dealbreaker is usually the girls are hanging out with their friends and hard to say if they are having a good time or looking.

Not all guys get lucky at the mall or disco.Try the salesladies, it works for me. But as with most of them, it is hit and miss.

Red Kilt
11-03-11, 11:19
I have put them in contact with Ausaid (

http://www.ausaid.gov.au/country/cbrief.cfm?DCon=1148_8702_9418_7487_8517&CountryID=31&Region=EastAsia

) which details the many aid programs available.I hope you weren't serious in telling them that they can get "aid" through the AusAID link were you Jo?

They cannot.

I suspect you threw that in to show what a potentially useful and caring guy you really are LOL.

The Ambassador has a small discretionary fund that is used for special cases where properly constituted organizations might apply for and receive some "seed" money for a local project, but there will be nothing for laser surgery, burials or replacement of carabaos etc.

Their best hope for funds for local emergencies is their local congressman / woman or Senator. They have pork barrel funds that they use for these genuine emergency measures.

Aussie Jo
11-03-11, 13:22
I hope you weren't serious in telling them that they can get "aid" through the AusAID link were you Jo?

They cannot.You are right. I was being fictitious in the name of humour. I was surprised by the level of creativity that they felt they had to use in order to get some cash from me. But while I was thinking about it I was surprised by how many programs Australia has running in the Philippines. I hope the aid does get to the right people.

SO, my thoughts are now that in order to have these ladies available for my regular trips, I also need to drip feed them in between. I'm not thinking marriage, I'm not thinking kids, I just want company when I am in town.

Cuchulain
11-04-11, 09:04
I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.

HenryV
11-05-11, 23:53
Problem in such places is the decibel level, unbearable. By the way, where exactly is it?

[hQUOTE=Cuchulain; 1213663]I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.[/QUOTE]

Red Kilt
11-06-11, 06:07
You are right. I was being fictitious in the name of humour. I was surprised by the level of creativity that they felt they had to use in order to get some cash from me. But while I was thinking about it I was surprised by how many programs Australia has running in the Philippines. I hope the aid does get to the right people.I think you mean " being facetious in the name of humour" LOL, but it's OK. I got your point hehe.

The Australian aid program is directed at "systemic level" support and NOT at individuals, although indirectly some of the smaller recipient groups do experience driect benefits.

The systemic level support is usually given through bi-lateral grants to relevant government agencies using managing contractors as intermediaries.

Brymor
11-06-11, 10:04
Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.I will second that. They offered me the best rates and only one of a handful of places in Cebu that would exchange 500 Euro notes. None of the banks were willing to change 500 Euro notes. There was another place in SM Mall I cannot remember the name of, a small money exchange place inside one of the large departments stores on the ground floor (I think)

GoodEnough
11-06-11, 10:35
I think you mean " being facetious in the name of humour" LOL, but it's OK. I got your point hehe.

The Australian aid program is directed at "systemic level" support and NOT at individuals, although indirectly some of the smaller recipient groups do experience driect benefits.

The systemic level support is usually given through bi-lateral grants to relevant government agencies using managing contractors as intermediaries.Sorry to hear that. I was going to apply when I get there tomorrow afternoon. Now you've rained on my parade. Guess I'll have to ask USAID for a similar grant.

GE

Red Kilt
11-06-11, 13:22
Sorry to hear that. I was going to apply when I get there tomorrow afternoon. Now you've rained on my parade. Guess I'll have to ask USAID for a similar grant.

GEHahaha GE I am sure the US lads will give consideration to such an eminent fellow countryman and researcher as yourself to undertake some data-collection to bolster the future proposals and theses to be used by His Excellency Ambassador Thomas.

Us Aussies try to channel our funds towards such grand notions as "governance reform" and "poverty reduction", but success comes slowly.

Andre007
11-06-11, 23:54
Problem in such places is the decibel level, unbearable. By the way, where exactly is it?

[hQUOTE=Cuchulain; 1213663]I think ayala mall has been over rated for meeting girls. I have been there at least 10 times on trips on my 2 trips in the last year.

I have met woman there. But have not been great quality at least the ones that approach me. I rarely approach, that might be the issue. Juliana Disco is my number one spot. Its open until 6 am or so. Just hang out long enough, they start approaching you after pickings get slim on foreigners. Robinsons mall was on fire my last visit but I thought it was a good pickup place. And right in the middle of the action. But on my next trip I will be back at ayala eating at the terrace. Great place to take dates.

Again the best exchange rate in town is in the basement of the ayala mall near the grocery store. It was. 3 pesos more per us dollar than the place one level up on the main floor.

Actually Ayala has been known to most of us who actually live here as the worst exchange rate of any place in town. My suggestions of two places that has always been the highest is 1. In Raintree Plaza which is directly across from National Book Store on Mango. Can't think of the name but is near the rear and you will normally find many people around. 2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.

Paulr1950
11-07-11, 01:12
Actually Ayala has been known to most of us who actually live here as the worst exchange rate of any place in town. My suggestions of two places that has always been the highest is 1. In Raintree Plaza which is directly across from National Book Store on Mango. Can't think of the name but is near the rear and you will normally find many people around. 2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.I think even a better rate can be had at the one at the WALK, in IT Park.

Mr Hawaii
11-07-11, 07:31
You are correct. The Raintree Mall money exchange is near Midtown Hotel and has an armed guard who locks the door each time a customer enters or exits. In fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in Cebu for longer than a few days. They charge by the kilogram. I went to Cebu at least 2x every year for 15 years, and found the Raintree Mall, and also the Robinson's Mall under the Midtown Hotel, near the grocery store, as the best 2 places to exchange US Dollars. No hassle. Went to SM mall and they wanted to see my passport, wanted the serial numbers of all the bills, etc. Geez. If you are new to exchanging money, please know that you don't have to put up with that crap. But do take clean, crisp $100 bills for the best rates. Iron them before you pack them. Most places will use a printer / calculator to show you both the rate for one dollar, and the amount of pesos they will give you for your total exchange. That way there is no misunderstanding.

FurryFriend
11-07-11, 07:44
in fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in cebu for longer than a few days. they charge by the kilogram.funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.

Mr Hawaii
11-08-11, 06:41
funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.heck, one time they lost my shirt. i found it myself in the wrong pile, not even washed yet. you go in there enough and they will remember you. was 1 young girl and an older girl about 5 yrs. ago. most of us mongers have the $$ to just let the hotel do our laundry, and most of the hotels do an excellent job. all offer same day service (rarely needed) for a premium, or next day for "cheap" compared to usa

X Man
11-08-11, 16:32
i used to love this place because they would deliver the done laundry to the nearby hp hotel. but then one day my fav jag shorts went missing. when i mentioned it with some lovelys at the nearby bars, they just laughed and said,"it is being sold at carbon market this weekend."

in all fairness i'm not sure if the jags were lifted by the cleaning staff at hp hotel (before i went to the laundry) or the laundry. x.


funny you mentioned them. they're called speedy laundry.

i dropped off some laundry at 10:00am expecting them to be done by noon the next day. when i went at noon the next day, they said i need to come back at 3:00pm. that's well over 24 hours and not exactly "speedy" laundry.

then again, i should remember that i'm in the philippines.

Stroker Ace88
11-08-11, 16:38
You are correct. The Raintree Mall money exchange is near Midtown Hotel and has an armed guard who locks the door each time a customer enters or exits. In fact, next to it is an excellent laundry service to take your dirty clothes if you are in Cebu for longer than a few days. They charge by the kilogram. I went to Cebu at least 2x every year for 15 years, and found the Raintree Mall, and also the Robinson's Mall under the Midtown Hotel, near the grocery store, as the best 2 places to exchange US Dollars. No hassle. Went to SM mall and they wanted to see my passport, wanted the serial numbers of all the bills, etc. Geez. If you are new to exchanging money, please know that you don't have to put up with that crap. But do take clean, crisp $100 bills for the best rates. Iron them before you pack them. Most places will use a printer / calculator to show you both the rate for one dollar, and the amount of pesos they will give you for your total exchange. That way there is no misunderstanding.Mr. H,

The Midtown Hotel has since been renamed with possible ownership change. It is now called Summit Circle Cebu.

Buko Max
11-09-11, 09:18
2. Robinsons Place mall in the basement near the grocery store.This is my preferred money changer. Many times they don't display the exchange rate because it changes several times a day. Last September an attempted robbery by an out of town gang went bad with two security guards going down and becoming heroes.

http://www.philstar.com/Article.aspx?articleId=724301&publicationSubCategoryId=107

Mbsl65
11-09-11, 11:23
For sure, it an hopping place. Lots of Korean's and Arabs. Many girls for everyone. Freelancer, semi-pros, freebees. One older lady offered a 18 yrs old to me for p1500. I am only interested on freebees and I passed on. However, they gave me a very sexy dances right by my table. Great place to pick up ladies. Sunflower is a waste of time but they do have very good bands if you just like to enjoy the music.

Mbsl65
11-09-11, 11:26
Lots of freelancers are around. Especially by Figaro's and Bo's Cafe. Also lots of ladyboys and you just need to be careful. It is amazing to see how many Westerners and Arabs are interested on ladyboys. I am happy for them, more selection of ladies for me.

Member #4491
11-12-11, 22:56
Any of you gentlemen met this girl?

Looked very promising before her baby girl but things can change fast.

She is up for meetings, since I have had at least one appointment with her, that fell through. Maybe someone here is even dating here and would like Barba to keep away from her juicy jugs?

B.

Spanish Main
11-13-11, 22:59
Any of you gentlemen met this girl?

Looked very promising before her baby girl but things can change fast.

She is up for meetings, since I have had at least one appointment with her, that fell through. Maybe someone here is even dating here and would like Barba to keep away from her juicy jugs?

B.. And I will swap her for the 25 Nigerians you owe me for. I have it in writing that I found them for you but I certainly didn't receive the money!

Member #4491
11-14-11, 00:14
. And I will swap her for the 25 Nigerians you owe me for. I have it in writing that I found them for you but I certainly didn't receive the money!I dream of the day I will have 25 Nigerians. All with mega tits. Spanish Main, I will return for a safari.

B

Member #4491
11-14-11, 01:13
Very nice, thanks. Is she lactating. I may have to put Cebu back on the to do list for this visit.I am not sure when these pictures where taken. I will PM you her details.

B.

Frenzy3
11-14-11, 05:37
Went there last night and the number and quality of the girls was down. One of my friends was working so I paid the 500 for her and 150 for the go to guy. I still say it is tame and as it is well lit very safe, I was on a motor bike, I had to pull out my wallet and hand over a 1000 to get 500 change and then get the 150 out to pay the guy. My money and credit cards where in full view but no one even looked. I still stress do not go there unless you take a local expat. Maybe I feel safe as the people there know me.

Just not many girls there atm, the girl I know was the best pick.

Red Kilt
11-14-11, 08:57
I still stress do not go there unless you take a local expat. Maybe I feel safe as the people there know me.Please read carefully what Frenzy says here. He lives in Cebu and he is experienced in moving around the "bottom-feeders", (and I say this in a nice way and without intent to insult or flame Frenzy).

I will never return to the basketball court after a harrowing experience even when accompanied by a local expat (and I live in the Phils too).

It is way too risky for me.

Mbsl65
11-14-11, 09:23
I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?

FurryFriend
11-14-11, 10:31
I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?I didn't go into the basketball court area either because it looked too dangerous.

But you don't have to. There are plenty of streetwalkers near Colon and Palaez. There are too many pedestrians and cars on that corner for anything bad to happen and I never felt unsafe. However, I did feel dumb because I was clearly the only pervert. Most people probably knew I was there for mischievous reasons.

If a pimp approaches, you can just ask him to bring the girls out to you instead of venturing into the basketball courts.

Spanish Main
11-14-11, 11:53
I dream of the day I will have 25 Nigerians. All with mega tits. Spanish Main, I will return for a safari.

BAnd doubtless they will all be working for a bank that has an account with twenty billions dollars in it belonging to a prince that has just died and how lucky to have met you because you can have twenty percent of the money if you marry one of them and give your bank details to her father who is a catholic bishop in charge of an orphanage that has just burned down and needs only ten thousand dollars to save the lives of the disabled children so if you send ten thousand dollars now to Doctor the Reveerand Sir Kevin Dobson who although is Nigerian and has an English name spelled wrongly he will give all the princes money in return for showing him how to write a letter that has some punctuation in it.

If you were here now this could be your finger instead of (or as well as if that floats your boat) mine. Not Nigerian but a very pliable 30 euro's worth of sexy Romanian. I hope to see you soon.

WestCoast1
11-14-11, 15:52
While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.

Questor55
11-14-11, 18:47
I asked about this place to local girls and they told me that it was close to Colon Street. However, it is a kind of place most local Pinoys doesn't go there due to criminal activities. If you are just a tourist, you need to stay away from places like that unless you are looking for trouble. While you can find lots of girls in Mango Square, Ayala Mall or IT Park, why would you go to a place like that?I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.

Paulr1950
11-14-11, 21:20
I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.I have picked many girls at it park, I think its a good place, as they stop work about 5/6 am, but its all about luck I think, or in the right place at the right time, as you walk about there, having breakfast, on the block where the disco is, is the best place, picked up there 1 morning, back to room breakfast later, so text ed late afternoon to say Hi, hope you had a good sleep etc, next thing started getting texts from some one saying he was her husband, not to contact, all that shit, so I texted back only 1 time, that she was so so hot then blocked the nos he / it was using, so you never no?

Frenzy3
11-15-11, 01:00
There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.

FreebieFan
11-15-11, 01:49
And doubtless they will all be working for a bank that has an account with twenty billions dollars in it belonging to a prince that has just died and how lucky to have met you because you can have twenty percent of the money if you marry one of them and give your bank details to her father who is a catholic bishop in charge of an orphanage that has just burned down and needs only ten thousand dollars to save the lives of the disabled children so if you send ten thousand dollars now to Doctor the Reveerand Sir Kevin Dobson who although is Nigerian and has an English name spelled wrongly he will give all the princes money in return for showing him how to write a letter that has some punctuation in it.Gee, seems like you can read the contents of my spam folder LOL.

I always reply to these fine fellows offering a phone number and details of a fictional bank with equally fictional bank account number. Love it when they reply and say " sorry sir, but the number seems incorrect "

Paulr1950
11-15-11, 03:50
There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.You live here so you should know there is 4 discos withn 5/10 min walk of IT PARK, but the girls I meet work in the call centers.

Paulr1950
11-15-11, 04:02
There is a squatter area near it park and bar girls also go to the disco arround there so like any place here there are chances you can pick up a girl. Behind mac donalds near water front I have found girls who needed money but they are not there all the time. You need to sit there and wait and watch.

The food places are easy to meet girls but like malls and "good" girls they take time to get the I have problem text. And some are just want the wife offer. Which I am not offering.

All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.I think I T PARK is one the best places to pick a non working girls, as all the girls are working at the call centers and the ones I pick or take out are not in it for the money, and any one looking for a wife or gf there is plenty to pick from if you have the right smile and know how to be polite

There is maybe another 3/4 call center towers and condos being nearly finished so there is going to 1000s girls working in the area.

And its 24hrs, and I not talking about behind mcds,

Questor55
11-15-11, 04:17
Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.No problem getting Ayala girls for 500-1000 ST. Maybe bargain a bit, but never turned down. Guys, make an effort to keep

The prices reasonable. Remember and etch it into your brains. Most girls (the minority who do actually have jobs) , get paid.

LESS than 1500 for a six day week!

Mbsl65
11-15-11, 04:39
I don't think there is a price for a personal safety when you travel. It may be OK for an experienced ex-pat to deal with a problem but not for a tourist.


Because the Junquera girls will work for 300 (her end. 500 yours) , while Ayala 1000-1500, and MS girls ask 2000 for ST. One could ask the converse of what you asked. Two sides of the coin.

Stroker Ace88
11-15-11, 05:21
All in all I would not recommend it park to meet p4p. The spot behind mac donalds have a look but only if you are in it park.Frenzy,

Agreed IT park is a horrible place to pickup and not worth the time. Call center agents (CCA) are some of the best jobs a local can hope to secure and as such they are well paid and will not risk there reputation. There are squatter areas located near IT park such as Apas and those girls will most likely be the girls who are willing to p4p. Again every situation is different and a younger gwapo guy will always attract more attention and advances in IT park than the older wrinkled brigade. YMMV.

Also most call center agents have BF's or MU's who work as call center agents as the hours and lifestyles match so lots of eyes always around.

Finrod
11-15-11, 07:41
I've never paid more than 500p for ST girls found at Ayala or Robinsons. Bastards don't be driving the price up before I can return.

Frenzy3
11-15-11, 10:31
I think I T PARK is one the best places to pick a non working girls, as all the girls are working at the call centers and the ones I pick or take out are not in it for the money, and any one looking for a wife or gf there is plenty to pick from if you have the right smile and know how to be polite

There is maybe another 3/4 call center towers and condos being nearly finished so there is going to 1000s girls working in the area.

And its 24hrs, and I not talking about behind mcds, You and I will disagree as "best place" I am telling the guys about p4p, hope you meet your future wife on the street at IT park and invite me to your wedding.

As for picking up non working girls call centre jobs are in the highest paid jobs in huge numbers on offer to pina, only IT pays better.

Stroker Ace88
11-15-11, 16:19
FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.

Red Kilt
11-15-11, 16:50
FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.Thanks for that Stroker but I betcha taxi drivers and us mongers will always know it as Silver Dollar.

Bit like Eddies Hotel. It's been Beverley Boutique for 2 years now but everybody still calls it "Eddies's".

Some things just don't change hehe.

Seyyes
11-15-11, 20:52
How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.


Just my two centavos, but there seems to be alot more scruffy looking foreigners hanging around Ayala and Fuente Osmena with that "lost jet-lagged" look. These guys are sometimes in the company of tambok (fat-chubby) older women and when I walk past with my 23yr old thin and very gwapa GF with long hair and even longer legs they shoot me dirty looks. Too bad.

Seems to me the recent flooding in Thailand has made guys change there plans last minute and now the result is Thai bound guys wandering around the malls and streets hoping to catch the eye of a sexy student or two but this is a bad time to try to wing it. Only older hardened pros patrol the malls now. I sat at Greenwich Ayala and watched the guys walk around and around working up a sweat but nothing else. Just my observations, I could be wrong but I doubt it.

On the surface the conditions seem perfect. The schools are on semestral break and so the streets should be full of young students just hanging out waiting to be approached but this week is the 'all saints, all souls' National Holidays and so alot of the students are spending time back in the Province or local cemeteries.

Cebu is a city where its is essential to meet the top quality girls online before your trip. Just showing up limits you to gogo bars and street fishing, and fishing can be no fun when the fish are not biting.

Cbea20
11-16-11, 04:06
On a related note, some guys talk about picking up sales girls at the malls, but one sees very few specifics. I had a GF once working at a mall. I would pick her up a few minutes after closing time at the employee exit. I was one of a couple of hundred guys on motorcycles waiting for their wife or GF. So when you're chatting up that pretty girl at the counter, ask her about her situation.


I have picked many girls at it park, I think its a good place, as they stop work about 5/6 am, but its all about luck I think, or in the right place at the right time, as you walk about there, having breakfast, on the block where the disco is, is the best place, picked up there 1 morning, back to room breakfast later, so text ed late afternoon to say Hi, hope you had a good sleep etc, next thing started getting texts from some one saying he was her husband, not to contact, all that shit, so I texted back only 1 time, that she was so so hot then blocked the nos he / it was using, so you never no?

Aussie Jo
11-16-11, 08:02
How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.Get yourself on tagged. Com, set up a profile with 2-3 pictures of yourself and some basic info.

1. Search for the age group of lady that you want in Cebu.

2. Send a few messages like "Hi, I'm in Cebu and looking to take someone out to dinner, could you be that special lady?" or words to that effect.

3. Have 3-4 bantering messages with them, don't mention fucking or sex! Mention romance, holding hands and free food and being close to your hotel.

4. Ask for their mobile number if they haven't given it to you by that stage.

5. Arrange to meet them at SM or Ayala Starbucks 1 hour apart and then just cancel the other ones.

Enjoy

Stroker Ace88
11-16-11, 08:36
How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.First, welcome to ISG.

Second, RTFF! Loads of great info if you just read back a few months. Under the Philippines section you will find a thread called CHAT ROOMS AND PENPALS. Go read 20 of the most recent pages and you can find what you want.

Third, I never said you can pick them up online, just meet them online and become friends, the picking up part could happen when you meet and can depend on your age, looks and game (or lack of). Again YMMV.

Also to the guy staying in the next room to me thanks for waking me up at 550am this morning. You started to bang the living crap out of your GF as she was screaming and moaning her head off and your head board was about to break through the wall. I smiled and woke up my GF and we both had a good laugh when the banging only lasted for 6mins, way to go stud, LOL. Then you asked her if she was going to "charge her phone" and I laughed out loud as I wondered if you meant for her to put her phone on vibrate to finish the job. I will also appologize in advance for keeping you awake for several hours tonight with the sounds of my head board and GF.

Sammon
11-16-11, 18:39
How do you pick up Cebu girls online? Any website you know that are good.Join dateinasia. Com It is free. There are loads of girls from Cebu and surrounding areas. Send messages to one or all who interests you. If you post a nice pic there will be lots of girls sending you messages as well. Be upfront about your requirements.

Do not promise them the world. Sex is natural with Phi girls. None of the girls who agreed to come to hotel room refused sex.

If sex is what you are looking for suggest them to come to your room. If you are looking for long term love interest maybe better meet somewhere else and get to know her.

Only problem about meeting first at public places is sometimes they show up with friends and relatives who want a free food. You always pay the check. It is impossible to have one on one conversation. Forget about asking her to come to your hotel. She has her reputation to protect.

Not all girls are interested to be seen with a western guy. The girls will check you out to see if they can scam you into sending them money. Do not send any money to the girl you have not met and liked irrespective how what they promise. Good Luck.

Buko Max
11-18-11, 14:18
FYI Silver Dollar bar is now renamed Maverick's bar & Grill.Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas!

Red Kilt
11-18-11, 15:01
Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas!Just what I said in Post 6112 Mattrick.

I will always think of it as Silver Dollar.
The owner is an Aussie so I doubt that he has a Texas fixation. I think he inherited the name "Lone Star" when he took over that bar, so maybe he just wants to stick with some sort of theme, although a "Maverick" is not exclusive to Texas or the Wild West.

X Man
11-18-11, 16:17
Maverick has fewer sylabbles than Silver Dollar. I like the new name. I also suggest we immediately call it MAV, since that is even fewer sylables.


Probably not a good idea to change the name of a long time storied institution like SD.

Sounds like the owner has a fixation with the great state of Texas!

Mbsl65
11-19-11, 01:00
Depends on the person. You have to smooth. I met several ladies around IT Park and they like to associate with foreigners.


I have SEEN lots of girls at I T Park, but scoring with them is another story. These are the middle class elite and they have little interest.

In foreigners looking for tonight's girlfriend.

Gangles
11-23-11, 09:19
a couple of weeks ago, frenzy3 was copping a heap of criticism for his posts about his lifestyle, his neighbourhood, his girls, **** sex, and just about everything else that could be slung at him.

just to set the record straight, i have recently been to his house, walked in his neighbourhood, met a number of his girls (plus others) , met the tiny woman who was the butt of accusations about **** sex, and all of the rest.

everything that he says about his lifestyle is true.

been there, done that.

g

Dr Slim
11-23-11, 11:06
i guess i'll give you guys the details of a 6 week trip to the phols and if you can get any benefit from it, all the better. i need to say that my primary purpose in cebu is not mongoring, it's business, but a monger is a monger no matter where he is and why he is there. just some backround. i have posted on this site years ago in the philippines and more recently in the usa but you can read those old posts as you see fit. i am married to a fantastic filipina who is not with me, and whom i miss a lot on this long trip. so your first question might be if he thinks his wife is so great, which she is, why cheat on her? well this type of mongering that i am about to share is not real cheating by my personal definition. you may say that i'm rationalizing or justifying or hypocritical. whatever. i am in love with my wife and these girls are merely sport.

period.

so i landed in manila and checked into a hotel for a night before heading to cebu. i wanted to see a girl i met on facebook. research in places like fb or myspace, or the now defunct friendster, or the new dating in asia are the key to my style of mongering. i do not pay for pussy, unless i make an exception which i occasionally do. i go on these sites, make friends with girls, chat them, get their cell numbers and have a list of 20+ numbers before i even land. you need that many cause filipinas are bold online but when it comes to actually meeting f2f, they chicken out.

i called this 21 year old from fb and she came to my place. we went to eat and then returned. she is not my usual type. she had a child already. i'm a tit guy and after girls have a baby their tits deflate and i am not desperate for pussy and can pick and choose. but she was cute and after we arrived back at my place we turned on the tv and i soon made my move. bad kisser, not a good sign. she was self conscious about her pooch so the shirt stayed on. but then i entered her and she was really tight. this was after 1 minute of head. so 3 strikes. bad kisser, shy, and no cim but the tightness made up for it. i pulled out and blasted on her stomach after about a minute. i should have been at lexington and concord because i'm the original minute man. i wanted to sleep but she kept grinding her ass into my joint and i could not resist. i fucked her 3x and again in the morning. four orgasms for a guy near 60 in less than 12 hours. yeah baby. when we parted, she started to lay this sob story about school being expensive. i told her to quit and gave her 500peso for travel and load. she texted me daily for a month but i ignored her. i needed to get to cebu.

this was an emergency trip so i could not rent a condo as i usually do, so i had to stay in a hotel, expensive but necessary. i went to my little black book and called another milf who kinda tricked me. her photos were old and she was 20 pounds heavier than i expected. she came to my place and we watched a movie. i made my move and she was willing and we did a few positions and i blew my load in a condom. problem with her was the weight and the fact that she would not stop talking about her ex bf who texted 20x during the 2 hours. this chick asked for cab fare when she left and i gave her 200pp about 5 bucks. she never called me again. saw her today at the mall and she did not recognize me.

so i'm here in cebu and it's time to take care of biz. i am not that interested in chasing girls and wining and dining. and i do not go to bars and get prostitutes. no moral issue. i have paid for women many, many times, but i simply learned other ways than at bars. and i also have changed with age and have been laid so many times that getting laid by a prosti kinda turns me off sometimes. i much prefer a a professional massage with a hand job. it gives me pleasure, makes me come, and it's over in an hour. i don't need to talk to them. all pluses. so, here is what i did for the next 4 weeks. 1) d aviary on escario st between the parclane and golden peak hotel. supposedly for gays but they have at least 3 different ladies working. ask for dove. she is the only licensed therapist there and gets the kinks out and offers hj or bj if she goes to your hotel. 280pp + 500 for the hj. note, they all ask for 1000pp for hj but just say its 500. 100% accept 500. went to her 3-4x. now i said that i don't pay for it but 780pp or 18 usd, i don't consider paying when your getting a 1hour pro massage and hj for 18 bucks,"paying" for it but if you do, ok, my bad. then i tried k-1 but they're legit. then i tried the parlour that took over a bar fine bar on ramos st, chuva chuva at 900pp w hj included. very pretty girls but the massage is lacking. so you get but sacrafice. never went back. next was the place across the street from the diplomat hotel, also on ramos st. now there is a massage place right in the diplomat. not there. and another called meridian at street level across the street, but i'm talking about the place in the little strip mall in the back of the parking lot. not sure the name. 500pp for entrance and the girl was a licensed masseuse. wanted all the way for 1500 or 1000 for covered bj but i only wanted a hj. 500 and out. never went back. then i found good earth in mango square. 200pp for massage. been there 3x and twice had reall massage but the 3rd was in need of training. very pretty girls gave me 500pp hjs and a chubby one gave me a horrible bbbj for 1000 but w the massage at 200 you can't lose.

so that was about 5 weeks worth of action and then i wanted some prime rib of beef. i pulled out my list of 20 girls between 18 and 24 and started hunting. calling, texting, emailing. all these girls are gorgeous and took weeks of hard work to get their numbers. but the doctor is not having success. these girls are "good girls" and want to meet me but want me to meet parents, sisters, brothers etc. you need to play these girls like they are prize winning marlins, man, but if you land one you get the prize. so finally, i get this 20 year old student to meet me and she brings her 2 sisters. we drink coffee and i buy them lunch. so she asks what will we do after the mall. i say we can go to my place and watch tv. she says ok but i say she needs to ditch the sisters. she says ok. she is one of those 5' 95 pound spinners with long curly hair and a perfect body, perfect skin, large be or small see boobs and a decent face. for 4 of the next 5 days she. lets put it this way, i'm still looking for my brains. and it would have been 5 out of 5 but i called time-out after the 3rd day. i made the 1st move the 1st day. she played a little hard to get, then it was all her from then on. never asked me for a dime. and if i said go home cause i needed to work she just went. the only reason i ended it with her was because another honey is flying down here from manila tomorrow and i want some variety. sweet girl. wants to be an actress / singer. wonder if i'll see her on tv some day.

so, another spinner comes into town tomorrow and then i'll be back in manila, then back to usa.

hope you get something from this report.

Member #4167
11-24-11, 04:23
Good to see you posting again! Hilarious description of a stunt I hope you never needed to use. The Philippine BG version of 'making it rain'.Nice trick. I keep a pocket full of small change. When approached by gangs of beggars / thieves I empty it on the ground.

Member #4167
11-24-11, 05:00
Hi. I'm back to the forum after a long hiatus.

I am glad to see Stroker, X Man, FreebieFan, GoodEnough and all the rest are still alive and well and posting.

Miss you all guys. Good to be back.

Rob Raxcal
11-27-11, 14:49
Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?

Stroker Ace88
11-28-11, 04:40
Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?RR,

I have spent New Years Eve (NYE) in Cebu and can provide you with some info. First if this will be your first trip to Cebu it is not really a good time to visit. The Philippines has a very close family structure and most if not all girls will stay at home and celebrate with family or go home to the province. If you have met the girl before most likely she will ask you to come to her home to spend New Years eve with them and that can be a good experience or a bear trap, again YMMV. If you choose to go to her house expect you will be hit on to provide the basics like a few cases of SM or red horse beer, a few bottles (or many) of tanduay, lechon baboy, lechon manok and the list goes on and on.

If you decide not to go to a girl's house for NYE your best bet will be to buy a ticket to a hotel party and there are lots to choose from. Most have a buffet menu and some kind of open bar. It is best to book one that is over-looking so you can watch the spectacular fireworks display that seems to go on and on for 30 mins around midnight. Crown Regency Fuente and Marco Polo hotels are two that will have great views.

The bar scene is hit or miss, but mostly miss as most of the families spend the night together. Around 1pm some of the younger crowd will excuse themselves from the family party and head for the bar to be with friends, but most are already very drunk well before midnight. Some bars around mango will announce NYE parties but again it is hit or miss.

The gogo bar scene is dead as alot of the girls go home to the province for the holidays and alot of the bars do not even bother to open but it depends on the bar.

Again if this is your first time in Cebu expect almost all the girls to tell you they will be ok to meet but between Christmas and a few days after NYE they will flake on you as family commitments will be the priority.

Paulr1950
11-28-11, 07:51
Hope this the correct place to post this. Thinking of spending New Years in Cebu. Any suggestions of cool places to go or do on New Year's Eve?Hi. I was there last yr for Christmas and new year, it was my first, and only time, as, just about every bar and resto was closed. I had to go many places just to get some thing to eat, so I will not be going to Cebu at those times again, or if I do will book into Marriot, Marco Polo.

Cool Traveler
11-28-11, 23:49
Memories come flooding back in. New Yars sucks in Phillipines, especially if you don't have something pre-arranged. I went expecting huge crowds, but boy was it dead!

Stay away.


Hi. I was there last yr for Christmas and new year, it was my first, and only time, as, just about every bar and resto was closed. I had to go many places just to get some thing to eat, so I will not be going to Cebu at those times again, or if I do will book into Marriot, Marco Polo.

Rob Raxcal
11-29-11, 11:24
Memories come flooding back in. New Yars sucks in Phillipines, especially if you don't have something pre-arranged. I went expecting huge crowds, but boy was it dead!

Stay away.Wow, thanks to all for the info. Perhaps I will plan to be in Manila instead. Or any suggestions?

Cool Traveler
12-01-11, 18:40
Sorry Rob, it applies to Manila too. But if you are there, grab something quick and early. Havana or Burgos. I will be there this New Years Day. Trying to get something arranged.


Wow, thanks to all for the info. Perhaps I will plan to be in Manila instead. Or any suggestions?

LevDog
12-05-11, 16:03
I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls as humanly possible. This time I am here for a good 6 months but my goals are the same. As I discussed earlier I look much younger then my age. To answer x-man's question every girl I meet I ask her to guess my age and the responses so far have been between 32-45. Nobody has guessed higher then 45. In fact I am 56 and my preferences are 18, 19 year old spinners. I love petite girls with pretty faces. If they had a baby, or smoke or have tattoo's I am not interested.

My first 2 weeks were spent in Manila but Cebu has always been my favorite destination. I have been here for 2 weeks now and Sunday was one of those good days. On Saturday I met a chat mate in Robinson's food court. I was floored when this stunning beauty entered with her ordinary friend. She is 5' 6'.110 pounds, just turned 18 in October. Definitely a head turner. In her first year of college she was in a beauty contest for her college. There were 47 entrants, she came in 2nd place. We had lunch and hung out at the mall for a bit when I took them back to their place. I offered to take her out later that night which she agreed to go but right before I was going to meet her she came up with the typical Filipino bullshit excuse that her mother was sick and she couldn't leave. Of course that took a hundred text messages, you guys know the deal. I figured this beauty wasn't interested and was ready to move on. That night at 1:00 in the morning which luckily had me alone at the time she texted me that she wanted to come over to my place. She came to my hotel and in about 5 minutes times we were banging away. Where else can one meet such an exquisite creature. After 3 intense sessions I bid goodbye to her in the late morning and in the early afternoon I ventured out into the streets of Colon where I stay. I met a 20 year old spinner who was dressed for action and had a quick session with her. She said she was in Colon because a good friend texted her to say she was fighting with her foreign boyfriend. However her friend was not answering her texts and calls so she was just hanging out. I gave her 700 p. And she promised that she had a lot of friends for play in her place so we exchanged cell numbers.

That night I hit the Waterfront casino where I play blackjack on their one blackjack table. There was a young Korean girl standing behind me with 5 100 pesos in chips. She was watching a few minutes so I told her to play a chip or 2 on my hand. She looked at me like I was crazy but after a few more minutes she dived in and won so she sat down next to me. I was able to start a conversation found out she was studying english there and then her friend came over and I had both of them playing on my hand. In a few minutes another of their friends came over. I stopped when I had a 5, 000 profit and they stopped at the same time. I wish I could tell you that these 3 cute korean girls came back to my hotel. I offered to buy take them dinner but they declined. I did give them my cell and well this is the Philippines so you never know. I did establish a good rapport with them, and if I bump into them again I think there is potential.

Since it was only about 9 o'clock and I had an extra 5, 000 pesos on me I figured I would hit a bar. I decided to try Hot Lips and bought a cute 19 year old a drink. In my many years of selecting a bar fine I always look for the freshest face. She met my requirements, no baby, no tattoos and she did not smoke. Plus she was smoking hot and was willing to go overnight for 2, 500. What the hell, I had an extra 5, 000 so I bar fined her and had a great time with this lovely girl who stayed with me until the early morning. The chat mate beauty is apparently already in love with me but tomorrow I head to the province where I have another chat mate who I am not interested in sexually but she needs money for school and I told her I would help her out if she set me up with some girls. Her text to me was "your wish is my command". Sounds promising so I had head out and continue the ever ending pursuit of beautiful female companions. Just another day in paradise.

Aussie Jo
12-05-11, 22:23
I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls...Thanks for taking the time to update in such detail. 20 trips, that is good going. If you are back in Cebu in January, let's catch up so we can share that "stunning beauty" cell number*winks.

It truly is an amazing country.

WestCoast1
12-06-11, 04:08
levdog, welcome to the filipines again!


where else can one meet such an exquisite creature. after 3 intense sessions i bid goodbye to her in the late morningtwo years ago i met a chatmate for a drink. she's luscious, but very immature. she brought a friend (of course) , unannounced. i thought them both immature, and possibly ****. they wanted to go to another place, a disco, and off we went. after a bit i was sure i should dump her and head off. i thanked them for a lovely time, dropped two p500 notes on the table to pay for the drinks and told them to keep the rest. i walked out to the street, waiting on a taxi to come by. out walks this real head-turner who had been dancing on the dance floor with about 5 other head-turners. out of the blue she says,"me evelyn." i was dumbstruck. mid-20's, looking like a '9' to me. i almost was unable to talk."h-h-h-i" was what i muttered. its rare a girl's beauty stymies me, but it did. she stared at her shoes and asked me where i was going. i told her back to malate to bedrock bar."i heard it. its nice place maybe. i can come on you?" omg! stunning and wants to come on me! i cracked up, i think she meant to ask if she could come with me. she did. i said sure. she said "wait," and ran into the disco to grab her purse. that started a 4-day run with a stunner who had only seen me for a few minutes in a disco, left boldly to stay with me (a stranger) , and stayed for days without asking for money (i paid for appetizers and drinks several times for her friends. the group of foxes we kept going out with. a man could die happy). where the f*ck else does this happen? mahubay, again levdog, to pilipines!


and in the early afternoon i ventured out into the streets of colon where i stay. i met a 20 year old spinner who was dressed for action and had a quick session with her. she said she was in colon because a good friend texted her to say she was fighting with her foreign boyfriend. however her friend was not answering her texts and calls so she was just hanging out. i gave her 700 p. and she promised that she had a lot of friends for play in her place so we exchanged cell numbers.a white man walking the colon / palaez area is going to get mauled from sw. they range in age from about 12, to older, and from fine to ugly. they always have a friend, and there is a mama who hangs in the area. one tiny thing kept after me everytime i left the hotel. i just smiled and walked off each time. one time she just walked into the hotel with me, then on to the elevator, and up to the room. when she walked in she started stripping before the door was closed and walked into the shower for a rinse. when she came out, my mind told me she was probably a minor, so i told her she had to go. she just smiled, dressed, asked for a tip (haha) and walked out. it was in the same area that i met a girl who brought me several others (pics on photogallery).


just another day in paradise.some call it the wild west of sex.

X Man
12-06-11, 11:50
Great post Levdog. Guess my age? I'm terribly sorry to bust your bubble but most Asians will subtract ten years in order to aovid any conflict or loss of face. It's their culture.

You probably figured that out on your own, but it makes for a good read anyway. Thanks for the report. X.


I have been in the Philippines for a month now and every day is an adventure. Sometimes things don't work and other times everything falls into place. I have been coming here since 1981 when I was 26 years old. This is my 20th something trip in those years mostly 1 week sprints where I was banging as many girls as humanly possible. This time I am here for a good 6 months but my goals are the same. As I discussed earlier I look much younger then my age. To answer x-man's question every girl I meet I ask her to guess my age and the responses so far have been between 32-45. Nobody has guessed higher then 45. SNIP

TravelSessions
12-07-11, 03:37
For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

Cheers

FurryFriend
12-07-11, 06:35
levdog, welcome to the filipines again!

a white man walking the colon / palaez area is going to get mauled from sw.

when she walked in she started stripping before the door was closed and walked into the shower for a rinse. when she came out, my mind told me she was probably a minor, so i told her she had to go. she just smiled, dressed, asked for a tip (haha) and walked out.it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?

WestCoast1
12-07-11, 07:47
by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?good question. some of the girls appear very young. after the girl left, i went back down to the street to walk a few blocks to jollibee. i stopped at the front door of the hotel to talk to the security guy. i asked if the girls from the street were ever a problem. he crooked his head towards the mama across the street and said that she ran the girls, and there had never been a problem with the girls in the hotel. he said the woman knows that if there is ever a problem with a guest that her girls cannot come back into the hotel. who knows if he's telling the truth, but since i've tipped him before, he has no reason to lie.

Sammon
12-07-11, 17:28
it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?generally it is not a sting by police. some hotels ask you to register a girl and need to show i. the. this might protect you somewhat but if the girl and her pimps are intent on extorting you there is nothing you can do but pay up before police gets there. they are also more interested in settlement because if the police are involved they take big slice of the pay off.

cebu probably is safer than manila. but general rule is if somebody looks **** just avoid her to begin with. once she is in the room you are already screwed if it is a scam.

Brymor
12-07-11, 20:10
For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

CheersYou probably mean Sinulog usually held on the third Sunday of January but celebrations last the whole week. My advice is avoid like the plague I was there in January. There are plenty of posts on the subject if you search back, so I will not repeat what has been said many times by me and other members.

FurryFriend
12-07-11, 23:03
generally it is not a sting by police. some hotels ask you to register a girl and need to show i. the. this might protect you somewhat but if the girl and her pimps are intent on extorting you there is nothing you can do but pay up before police gets there. they are also more interested in settlement because if the police are involved they take big slice of the pay offi would imagine shady cops would recruit these street girls to do their bidding.

also, it seems the girl is more likely to extract a bribe or a bigger one if cops are involved. sure she can get p2000 on her own. but she can get p200000 with cops (she comes out wayyyyy ahead even if the cops take a cut).

granted, it seems **** scams are most prevelant in angeles and manila. there appears to be few reports of this kind of scamming in cebu. still, i'm the paranoid type.

how reliable is philippine id? i doubt colon street girls carry any id at all.

Red Kilt
12-08-11, 04:20
. .

cebu probably is safer than manila. but general rule is if somebody looks **** just avoid her to begin with. once she is in the room you are already screwed if it is a scam.interesting news item yesterday (although i agree with your comment samm)

http://ph.news.yahoo.com/cebu-city-province-highest-crime-volume-central-visayas-014005398.html

i don't know what the comparison with manila and other parts will be, but as is pointed out, and it's not rocket science, the bigger the population then the more crimes there will be

Jambo
12-08-11, 15:16
For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?Sinulog 2012 is Jan 6 to 15.

http://www.sinulog.ph/index.php/schedule-of-activities-2012/

I've been in town for One of these, and it seems I will be there again next Jan. I enjoyed it overall.

- Got tickets to "Miss Cebu", deluxe seats close up, purchased the afternoon of the show. Also took my girl to a rock concert that week. Again easy to get tickets. Philippinos do know how to do a beauty pageant!

- Spent an evening at the big square downtown. There was a music festival there. Lots of fun and street barbecue. No worries with the crowd.

- Was going to watch the main parade, but when I told my girl to expect to walk a mile, she lost a lot of interest! Haha we watched it on tv. I was in a hotel near the mall (Parklane) , and it would have been possible to walk up to the parade route, but then you would be standing the entire time. OTOH, being 5'10", no problem having a view!

- It seems the organizers come up with a particular theme music for the festival, and all the competing performers have to do their own version of it. The theme can get tiresome (you hear it Everywhere) , but you can think of it as a kind of week-long rave / trance.

- All over town, in the hotels, airport, and malls, they have the festival decorations out. Its a lot more party oriented that Easter that's for sure. Plenty of good photo and video ops.

- Other than the parade day, I had no problems getting a taxi, except when I was staying on Mactan island. Its been talked about that taxi's don't like to go over there, esp late, as they don't get a fare back. From now on I am staying in town. Thanks for reminding me to get my hotel reservation in.

Questor55
12-09-11, 06:23
For you cebu regulars, is it best to avoid coming during the festival in Jan, I think it's 12th. 16th or something?

Is it too busy or is it not something that needs to be avoided?

CheersLast year I was in Cebu the week prior to Sinulog. I am a regular, well known guest at my particular hotel, having stayed there at least twenty times. I was informed, very apologetically, that they were fully booked during Sinulog, other than certain 'deluxe' rooms that were priced at a 500 % increase! That's right, A 3000 peso room was 15000 pesos during the festival! Therefore, book immediately and ascertain that you're getting the regular rate.

TravelSessions
12-11-11, 04:31
Last year I was in Cebu the week prior to Sinulog. I am a regular, well known guest at my particular hotel, having stayed there at least twenty times. I was informed, very apologetically, that they were fully booked during Sinulog, other than certain 'deluxe' rooms that were priced at a 500 % increase! That's right, A 3000 peso room was 15000 pesos during the festival! Therefore, book immediately and ascertain that you're getting the regular rate.Thanks for all the info. I'm going to avoid it this time and get there after the 16th.

Cheers

Frenzy3
12-11-11, 14:24
That the first time I have heard that. I will ask some other hotels as it a great time to be here more girls plenty of eye candy. I enjoy it apart from traffic but Cebu is so small you can walk.

Stroker Ace88
12-11-11, 19:27
it's not just a "white man" walking into the area. anyone who looks remotely foreign will get mauled. i'm asian-american and every time i'm there, they'd stalk me. it's weird seeing a girl follow me from across the street.

by the way, if you suspected she's a minor, weren't you afraid of getting busted? there's a philippine law stating that any adult in a room alone with an unrelated minor can be charged with statutory [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123). you could have been set up for a sting. in your experiences in cebu, how worried should i be about being a victim of a sting?generally speaking when you barfine a girl out a well known bar that is your safest option. you still have to guard against the girl stealing your phone or wallet but you are more likely to have problems with a runner or bad performance from a bar girl.

if you pickup on the street that is alot more dangerous. the scam that has been going on in cebu for awhile now is one where the girl will approach you on the street. she will be good looking and will seem very interested in you and promise to be your lbfm in the hotel room and she will agree to almost any price so be wary of girls who say the common phrase "up to you". in most cases the girl will not be **** and look 19+ and when asked for i d she will carry a fake school i'd with her age being 19+ and this will set the monger at ease. when you take the girl to your room she will hold her phone in her hands and text the hotel name and the room number to someone.

once in the room she will take a shower and come out and be playful and then take pics with her phone of herself in a towel or on your bed with you in the background. she will have sex with the monger and while the guy is deep inside her someone will begin to pound and scream at the hotel room door. it will be her family, most likely an uncle or aunt who along with a police relative will get the hotel staff to open the door to reveal you and the girl together. the girl will cry and the family will be upset. the police will take you to the station and tell you that you are in alot of trouble and there might be a way out of the mess. they will show you the evidence, her cell phone pics and her fake school i'd which will show her as 17yrs old. the 19+ i d she showed you will be no where to be found. amount demanded will vary but you are going to pay no matter what.

the newest scam involves motocycles. in the past 6 months there has been an explosion of foreigners renting or buying motocycles to get around cebu. one gang opperating in and around cebu have been targeting foreigners and the scam goes like this.

they see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. the driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. they don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. the amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what i have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. so if you drive a motorcycle in or around cebu be careful.

WestCoast1
12-11-11, 23:23
Once in the room she will take a shower and come out and be playful and then take pics with her phone of herself in a towel or on your bed with you in the background. She will have sex with the monger and while the guy is deep inside her someone will begin to pound and scream at the hotel room door. It will be her family, most likely an uncle or aunt who along with a police relative will get the hotel staff to open the door to reveal you and the girl together. The girl will cry and the family will be upset. The police will take you to the station and tell you that you are in alot of trouble and there might be a way out of the mess. They will show you the evidence, her cell phone pics and her fake school I'd which will show her as 17yrs old. The 19+ I D she showed you will be no where to be found. Amount demanded will vary but you are going to pay no matter what.

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They see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. The driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. They don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. The amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what I have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. So if you drive a motorcycle in or around Cebu be careful.Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.

FreebieFan
12-12-11, 02:57
The newest scam involves motocycles. In the past 6 months there has been an explosion of foreigners renting or buying motocycles to get around Cebu. One gang opperating in and around Cebu have been targeting foreigners and the scam goes like this.

They see a white guy on a motorcycle and so they position a car in front of the motocycle and then slam on the brakes causing the motocycle to bump into or sometimes crash into the car. The driver of the car gets out and is upset even if there is no damage, at this point they demand payment for repairs just as a police officer arrives on the scene who is involved with the gang. They don't care if you are hurt or not but the police officer will demand you pay the car driver to fix his car. The amount is generally around the 20-30k pesos mark and from what I have been told they try this scam successfully once a week. So if you drive a motorcycle in or around Cebu be careful.This one has been going on for a long time in Jakarta. Only its white guy driving and Indonesian on the bike. I the Indo version guy falls off bike in great pain, crowd assembles etcetc.

Stroker Ace88
12-12-11, 04:36
Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.I do not consider my post as being negative, but more of a realist perspective because these things are happening daily. The average guy who spends a few days a year in Cebu has no clue what's really going on as everything seems good on the surface and my post is meant to inform.

I generally agree that posting negative things about filipinos is a slippery slope and should be done selectively and without general bias towards the people as a whole as both good and bad intentioned people can be found in every part of the World with alot of grey areas in between.

This article a few weeks ago made me LOL, and it provides a typical example of the way things work in the Philippines.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2011/11/25/cop-deals-stolen-vehicle-192450

Frenchmen
12-12-11, 04:48
Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.isn't the world we live in scam oriented?

C'mon guys, all Filipino scams added together are not even 10% in value compared to Madoff's scam and when it comes to the scam that our governments and banking systems are running on us, the Filipino scams are not even worth mentioning.

Chill out guys at least these people have the excuse of poverty. What's the excuse of the others that really take the skins off you?

FurryFriend
12-12-11, 05:23
C'mon guys, all Filipino scams added together are not even 10% in value compared to Madoff's scam and when it comes to the scam that our governments and banking systems are running on us, the Filipino scams are not even worth mentioning.

Chill out guys at least these people have the excuse of poverty. What's the excuse of the others that really take the skins off you?

What are you trying to say? That we shouldn't talk about Philippine scams because there's scamming everywhere?

The objective of this discussion is to share information that can keep our butts out of a Philippine prison or prevent us from being extorted money we cannot afford.

- Pointing out that Maddof is a bigger scammer is utterly irrelevant and does nothing to achieve that objective.

- Whether the scammer has a good reason to scam is irrelevant either.

- Does bitching about banks and the financial system contribute to this discussion? Nope.

Come to think of it, I don't think there's one word in your post that is relevant or even remotely helpful.

Frenzy3
12-12-11, 15:51
Someone recently posted that we shouldn't post negative stuff about filipinos: they might get mad at us. Yet, they do these kinds of things. As long as the culture is scam-oriented, there will be negative posts.It was me who posted about the negative personal attacks. Writing about scams was not mentioned in my post.

You of all people should know insulting people due to race is not on, we are all humans.

Frenchmen
12-14-11, 05:02
What are you trying to say? That we shouldn't talk about Philippine scams because there's scamming everywhere?

The objective of this discussion is to share information that can keep our butts out of a Philippine prison or prevent us from being extorted money we cannot afford.

- Pointing out that Maddof is a bigger scammer is utterly irrelevant and does nothing to achieve that objective.

- Whether the scammer has a good reason to scam is irrelevant either.

- Does bitching about banks and the financial system contribute to this discussion? Nope.

Come to think of it, I don't think there's one word in your post that is relevant or even remotely helpful.My post is as helpful as the post to which I replied that was saying that the Philippines is a scam-oriented society.

If saying that you think will help someone with anything, be my guest and * as much as you want and convince yourself that the filipina that cons you of 20 bucks is worse than your government that cons you of your life's savings and maybe forces you to retire in the PH because you can't afford to live in your country anymore.

I think the only helpful info would be specific info about what kind of tricks the con artists can work on you and how to avoid it, bashing a nation doesent help in any way.

FurryFriend
12-14-11, 06:13
If saying that you think will help someone with anything, be my guest and * as much as you want and convince yourself that the filipina that cons you of 20 bucks is worse than your government that cons you of your life's savings and maybe forces you to retire in the PH because you can't afford to live in your country anymore.Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape.

Frenchmen
12-14-11, 06:49
Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape.How do you avoid pitfalls by saying that Philippines is a scam based culture?

Frenzy3
12-14-11, 09:18
Just because I'm scammed by my government doesn't mean I'm open to being scammed on vacation. Don't try to justify or downplay one wrong by pointing out something else is more wrong.

If this forum was designed to talk about rugby and we criticize the Philippines, you'd have a point another us bashing the country. But this is the Philippines subsection of a mongering forum. A discussion of Philippine culture is highly relevant in maximizing our enjoyment and avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape."avoiding pitfalls in this thoroughly miserable country where a vast majority want to escape"

First the pitfalls are well covered in these forums only add real experiences not hearsay

If it so miserable why do you visit here?

No one I know living here wants to escape, please show me where the vast majority are packing up and leaving.

I repeat again your negative attitude about PI is getting tiresome. Either add real experiences, photos or real reports about sex as it is called "internationalsexguide" for a reason

Chicochulo
12-14-11, 11:23
Scams go with the territory. If not, I suggest you find another sport. As far as scams are concerned, Cebu is tame compared to places like Havana, Cuba. Personally, I expect the hustle from the bargirls. I expect to be approached everyday with some sob story or half-assed swindle. My metaphor is the running back with a football in his hands. I'm trying to score. Getting offended by someone trying to tackle me isn't going to get me over the goal line. Sure, I get a little pissed on occasion when the hustle is on. However, all is forgotten when I have a beautiful 90lb Pinay licking my balls. So, let's get back to the game and move the ball in the right direction.

CC

FurryFriend
12-14-11, 11:58
How do you avoid pitfalls by saying that Philippines is a scam based culture?Did I say everyone in the Philippines is out to scam me? I've stated many times that a majority of people are good. Nevertheless, there's nothing wrong with sharing strategies to avoid the few bad apples.

Saying that the culture has a lax work ethic, which has been one of my claims all along, does not mean I believe the culture is generally criminally-minded.

Chicochulo
12-14-11, 12:22
Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CC

Cuchulain
12-16-11, 09:41
1. Also Avoid easter week, I wasted 3 days of my trip because of this. Yikes. Was suprised Thursday and Friday were the worse day but easter Sunday almost everything open.

2. Some one talked about protection advice. I just found the best thing its call a Screach alarm. Man its loud and small. I think between that and my pepper spray. I can hold off the ladyboys. Maybe even the kid gangs that hang out around the sogo. Accross the street there is places for them to hang out at night. This is where I see all the purse snatches as well.

If I ever move to cebu, I am bringing Cans of bears spay and and AK, just like the security guards. Rarely do people mess with someone that owns an ak47.

3. The scam does get old, my first trip I was just amused by it, my second trip It started to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off. But as I told one guy, it is not like these people are rocket sceintist, You can usually see it coming a mile away.

My gf wonder why I would get upset the taxi driver was trying to screw me. I asked her is she would get upset if it was her getting screwed and she said of course she would. WTF. I guess I am a big white atm machine. Good thing I dumped her.

4. The downtown area did not seem as loaded as I heard with working girls. I did see some, most I wouldn't fuck or touch. I few cuties. But mostly low quailty street walkers.

5. I am preparing for my next trip and I am looking to add to my list of pay4play girls on Dia, If anyone wants to exchange 5 to 10 dia names of girls who are wiling to pay 4 play. I have a good size list.

Happy hunting guys I love cebu, not to big but lots of available action. And you can find gf types if you want. As well as one of the most affordable cities in the world. I met a guy my last trip from the uk that lived on 500 pesos a day.

Blight782
12-16-11, 13:27
Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CCThat was hot. Lucky you have encountered like that. Wish to have one too.

MauiDude
12-16-11, 18:16
Here's a story from Cebu that some senior member might appreciate. I was meeting a DIA contact at the SM mall for lunch. She brought her drop dead gorgeous 19 yo cousin. Who was from the province. This cute little cousin didn't speak much English but she was sure nice to look at. As my DIA contact and I chatted over lunch, two things became obvious. First of all, my DIA friend wasn't interested in making my bed and her cute cousin was impressed with my cheap Nokia cellphone. At the end of lunch, I didn't beat around the Bush. I took a chance and asked that cute little cousin if she'd like a cellphone in exchange for an afternoon of naughty fun. To my suprise, the DIA contact didn't seem at all offended, when her cousin agreed. She just left the restaurant after I promised I'd take good care of the little darling. After waving goodbye it was off to the store. I spent a little over 1000 ph on the phone and sim. Then it was off to the Alpa Suites to unwrap my new toy. I have to admit, that little country girl was a dream. Petite and tight was the best way to describe her. It was funny how she kept wanting to do it doggie style so she could play with her new toy. I didn't mind because her perfect bottom was a treat to look at while I pounded her little pussy. When she left, I gave her an extra 500ph for transportation and load. Well worth it. I love this game!

CCWow sounds great. If you are willing to share her number I can do the same with some girls in angeles and maybe one or two in cebu? I am in cebu now and you could inbox me

Trentz
12-18-11, 23:06
No. They're not into anal. I can assure you that.

Lowkey1
12-21-11, 06:30
I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this. WHat are a few of the good pick up bars? Are there Go go bars in cebu? And where can I find the 18 year old girls at? So maybe a few massage parlors and what not. So if you have a minute maybe give me a little "to do" list to go by.

I also like lotus and city garden hotel in manila. Is there anything of that nature in Cebu?

Thank you.

WestCoast1
12-21-11, 07:44
I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this. WHat are a few of the good pick up bars? Are there Go go bars in cebu? And where can I find the 18 year old girls at? So maybe a few massage parlors and what not. So if you have a minute maybe give me a little "to do" list to go by.First, its been a while since you were in Manila. The former LA Cafe is now Manila Bay Cafe (MBC) , for about 1. 5 years. The main pickup place in Cebu seems to be Juliana's disco, in Mango Square. Its got a combo of freelancers and regular girls and guys there to drink and dance. Bunch of gogo bars on Mango; tell the taxi driver to take you to Vikings bar (about 6 gogo bars right next to each other). The barfine there is about p1800. If you want cheap street girls, either the downtown corner of Colon / Paleaz streets, or the Junquera basketball court.

Buko Max
12-21-11, 07:57
I have been to Manila and AC a few times. This is my first trip to CEBU. I have looked and looked and did not see any places like LA CAFE that are a must to go to. So let me ask this.Just curious as to why you picked Cebu to visit?


WHat are a few of the good pick up bars?Any of the various discos at Mango Square or IT Park.


Are there Go go bars in cebu?There is a cluster of go go / bikini bars on Mango Avenue also known as Gen. Maxilom


And where can I find the 18 year old girls at?Virtually everywhere but start at Mango Square or the malls. Be careful and check ID's if need be. .


So maybe a few massage parlors and what not.Meridian or Duke's Spa.


I also like lotus and city garden hotel in manila. Is there anything of that nature in Cebu?Cebu Grand, Crown Garden, Century Plaza and Diplomat on the cheaper end. Elizabeth, Parklane and Crown Regency Fuente on the upper end.

Redman69
12-21-11, 23:47
I can only add to advice below which is right on. Pumps 1, mixer of koreans, regulars and pros. Another disco called sunflower have not bee there but heard more towards a date place until late. Cebu in mostly strip jionts. As said bar fine 1, 800. 00 peso, Short time or long. Taxi money home if needed. Go to SM, Robinson, and Ayala malls. During the day. Sit at coffe shops and watch the eye candy. You will see the pros and the curious. You have a great hotel list allready Hi end and normal price. I like cebu. It is not as crowded as manila, you can be out in the country in 30 minutes north south or moutians to the east. But it has everything minila does. Except 2 million homeless kids living on the street. Which just is depressing to see all the time. It is in cebu but so little you have to look for it.

When leaving the airport. Go out the doors all the way to the right. Go up the stairs and stand in line for the metered cab. They actually give you a fair shake in Cebu.

Frenzy3
12-22-11, 00:20
And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog

Yujin
12-22-11, 03:20
When leaving the airport. Go out the doors all the way to the right. Go up the stairs and stand in line for the metered cab. They actually give you a fair shake in Cebu.At the airport, they will try to direct you to an airport "yellow" taxi. The "yellow" taxi meter rate is nearly double the "white" taxi meter rate. For this reason, I'd recommend getting a "white" taxi unless there are none available and you don't want to wait for one.

FurryFriend
12-22-11, 04:48
At the airport, they will try to direct you to an airport "yellow" taxi. The "yellow" taxi meter rate is nearly double the "white" taxi meter rate. For this reason, I'd recommend getting a "white" taxi unless there are none available and you don't want to wait for one.What's so special about yellow taxis?

Hairy Wonder
12-22-11, 06:17
And in Cebu do not try speak TagalogWhat is wrong with speaking Tagalog in Cebu? It is the national language of the Philippines. I haven't visited Cebu yet, but I have used Tagalog in chats with many girls from Cebu. All of them seemed to be impressed by the fact that I knew Tagalog.

Red Kilt
12-22-11, 06:31
And in Cebu do not try speak TagalogI use Tagalog in Cebu and it has never caused me any grief.

Not sure why you make this point Frenzy.

Is it a warning or is it simply to say that Bisayan speakers won't understand you?

I would doubt that since TV programs and movies are all in Filipino (except for the local news updates) and shown all over the Philippines.

Stroker Ace88
12-22-11, 06:55
What's so special about yellow taxis?Yellow Airport Taxi: 70p flagdown rate- 4. 50p.

White Cebu Taxi: 40p flagdown rate-3. 50p

FurryFriend
12-22-11, 09:20
Yellow Airport Taxi: 70p flagdown rate- 4. 50p.

White Cebu Taxi: 40p flagdown rate-3. 50pI know the yellow taxis charge more. But why? Do yellow taxis offer something special? Because when I took the yellow taxi, the asshole tried to drive without turning on the meter. So getting a more honest driver doesn't explain the higher fare.

Red Kilt
12-22-11, 12:56
I know the yellow taxis charge more. But why? Do yellow taxis offer something special? Because when I took the yellow taxi, the asshole tried to drive without turning on the meter. So getting a more honest driver doesn't explain the higher fare.You have to report the driver FF.

The whole purpose of the yellow taxis was to raise the profile of the airport transport business and to prevent the scams including hijackings etc that were prevalent when the regular cabs were allowed to operate.

I use yellow cabs regularly in Manila and I have NEVER had any problem.
You should have a trip ticket handed to you by the despatcher when you leave the terminal, and it has the yellow cab registration number and a telephone number to call if you have any problem.

If you allowed your "asshole" to get away with it then he will do it again.

I know one of the owners of the yellow cab consortium, and he would dismiss immediately any driver who tried this on, as there are many guys who want to be yellow cab drivers.

Mc Don
12-22-11, 13:44
Continued from AC tread.

I landed in cebu around 10 pm. Ms M was supposed to pick me up from the airport but with all the crap that went the day before I wasn't sure if she will turn up. As soon as I landed I switched my phone on to find a txt from her that she is there already with the description of her vehicle and rego number. I was happy it seems she is going to go through with it. Ms M is a nice 27-28 year old realtor that runs her own company employing 25 people according to her. She has won awards as top salesman for Ayala. Educated in Japan, she moves high end property mainly to foreigners and overseas Filipinos. She drove a brand new Hyndai Tucson and had more gold on her then I have seen on any non celeb Filipina. Previous cam interactions showing a luxury condo also indicated that she was telling me the truth. Anyway I walk out of the airport in Cebu her car is just park outside so I get in and yeah she is gorgeous. Dressed in a sexy business suite, nice face and tits to die for DCups would approve. We quickly greet and kiss and off we go to the Radison Blu. The ride is about 10-15 min, some small talk along the way and we are in front of the hotel. She leaves the car for the valley to take care of it as I walk to the reception desk to check in. Its funny because everyone seems to know her and greet her, from the valley to the receptionist and soon enough I get to meet the manager who hands me over vouchers for dinner in the restaurant as a gift. I didn't know what to think, at first to be honest I thought she must be some high class escort with more millage then a second hand car but in the elevator she explained that her company does presentations there and that she was there few hours ago she was doing some presentation to a bunch of Korean investors. We get to the hotel room and I quickly take a shower but she seems content to just watch tv. Now this is where I should have pushed my luck and go for it, this was the defining moment of the night I guess. When you are not sure if the girl will go through with the plan I guess get sure quickly and if no go get ride of her but I misread the situation completely. In turn we went for dinner to IT park, she mentioned couple of new discos there The Loft and something else. Can we get some info on those from the Cebu regulars or locals? She mentioned they only work Friday + weekend. Anyway dinner in a nice posh place, where once again everyone knew her, I get a bill that was ridiculously discounted for 2 * 3 course meals plus drinks I paid just under 500 peso. After that we went to some new disco M2 (not 100% thats the name of the place) or something like that near the port, on the other side of Radison Blu, less then 5 min driving. Once you park in the car park opposite you will see an open bar and then behind there is an indoor disco area with tables on the side. For a Wednesday night the place had maybe 150 people out of which 3:1 female to male ratio with less then a handful foreigners. I got few smiles and she noticed so she immediately pulled me at the back in the seats there. My leg was hurting so I didn't mind but another bad sign that I read well this time. From then on I tried, tried, and tired to licker her up as I had a feeling it will be one of those nights that ends in disappointment. 2 am we are back in my room. She takes shower first, locks the door, comes out dressed in a sexy nighty. I take a shower come out naked and get into bed. First it was the lights, then the tv, then lets not do this, then I haven't been with a man for years, then I don't know you that well, then I am not like this. Well fuck I am. I turn the lights on, I ask her does she remember what she promised and does she realise that my time is precious and I could have had another girl now? She is quite but nods, so I ask her to get dressed and go. She does, but I can tell she is looking at me sort of begging for forgiveness without saying it. I could care less, I fired up my laptop, and I was already cruising DIA as she came to kiss me goodnight. I pulled out and asked her to close the door on her way out. Few min latter I get a knock on the door, I open up its her asking if she could spend the night here anyway, I just slammed the door saying no. Well for the next few min I felt bad, she knew people in the hotel and to be kicked out at 3am it would had to be embarrassing for her but hey how else is she going to learn? I spend the night watching football and sending silly messages on DIA before going to sleep alone.

Mc Don
12-22-11, 13:47
I woke up around 9ish and I couldn't be bothered with the breakfast. Ordered ice from the hotel for the leg and checked out DIA. Few replies from last night, one that looked promising and the girl was on line. I quickly moved in asking for her phone number and we were speaking few minutes latter. I invited her on a date in SM and she agreed for 11 am. She also asked me if she could bring her two 'sexy friends'. Now normally I don't mind a friend as I can get ride of the quickly if I don't like how things are progressing but I have never encountered anyone so far introducing her friends this way. She even gives me their DIA profiles so I look them up and yeah they seem ok. I agree wondering if this is going to be a big waste of time or did I just hit the jackpot. I start sending more msgs on DIA to girls that are on line and that I like so quickly I fish in another that after 2-3 replies leads to a phone conversation and a date for 5pm. I figure Mango square and bars tonight to end the night where I know its a sure thing.

I meet my DIA date with her 2 friends in tow (lets call them ms B (23yo) , C (28yo) and D (19yo) in front of the SM cinemas. Ms B the girl that I chatted to on DIA turned out to be a punduck (small body girl) that in seemed so much smaller then the photo and the few min webcab I did with her earlier. I love small bodied girls but I came to cebu for the big tits of Ms M. Its funny last trip she would have been perfect then it was the punduck look that I was seeking I guess I can say she was nice but not the flavour of the month. Ms C was the great average, nice girl, someone I would not barfine or talk to in a club but I would not hesitate to fuck if given the opportunity. Ms D the youngest of them all had what seemed like a decent C cup. She definitely had a killo or two more then the others but I would not call her fat or chubby even. Nice body and face, her photo on DIA does not do her justice. They wanted to eat and I was hungry too so went looking for a restaurant. They wanted KFC but the line was so big I couldn't be fucked waiting so we went to Shankies or something like that near by. Spaghetti, for Ms D that was seating next to me and was smiling the whole time, chicken for the other two and offcourse mango shakes for the lot. Small talk mostly with Ms C, they wanted to know how old I am, where do I stay, how long. The usual crap. Bill came to 1300 peso. I told them that my leg hurts and I can't walk too much so they offered to massage me, they wanted to see the hotel too since they have never been there. It was funny walking through SM, each taking a turn to hold my hand and kiss me. If anyone was following us well he would have wondered WTF. At each escalator I had anther babe next to me kissing me. Finally we work out the right exit and we quickly get into the hotel lobby, elevator, my room. Fashion TV on, music, girls, drinks from the mini bar, clothes start to come off I have 3 sets of hands touching me I feel like I am in heven. Ms B then says she has period so she is can't fuck, the other two lead me to the shower. I had everything locked up in the safe but I was still wondering at this stage if there is something more to it. No talk of money so far. In the shower they soap me up and give me a nice soak quick but nice. Then we are back on the bed and they proceed with the massage. 20 min go and they are talking tagalog, each one daring the other to have a go. It seems they are embarrassed to fuck in front of each other. Instead I get a hand job from the 3 of them taking turns on my dick and my balls with only Ms D giving me a blow job. Heaven quickly disappeared I guess. It was frustrating to say at the very least. Just when I thought I struck gold I struck out again. Another 20-30 min go and I finally cum in Ms D's mouth and they quickly start dressing up. I still can't figure what the hell happened or what was the point. I can say this was a unique experience that was weird on so many levels. I can't work out why ms C came in first place? Why ms B would not give e blow job and why neither Ms C or Ms D wanted to fuck. I guess I was done anyway it was approaching 3-3. 30 so I figure time for shopping before the other DIA appointment. I get dressed too, give Ms D 500 peso for her blow job and leave them in front of the taxi rack as I walk in SM mall. Ms C asked for taxi money I refused because she didn't do anything, I figure lunch was enough. I probably should have given her few hundred peso but I did ask her at one point to help ms D out and lick my balls which she didn't want to do. At the end of the day the got lunch and waisted my time I guess that's the bottom line.

After some shopping I went back to the hotel and texted Ms Z (22yr old, spinner with tits) my 5pm DIA. She confirmed our date for 5pm and we agreed to meet up at the cinemas again. She was on time which was great and we went to Bo's for coffee. Before even spending a peso on her she drops a bombshell, she has a period is it still ok, she just wanted to see me. Oh boy, to say that at this stage I am cursing in myself for coming to Cebu would be a gross understatement. All sorts of crap runs through my head, is it something wrong with me, is it just my luck, what are the chances of 2 birds with period in one day, am I going to even going to get laid in Cebu. I even thought about cutting the 'date' here and rushing to the airport for the 6. 30 Cebu flight to AC. The girl was nice though. She was not late and was honest upfront. Is she playing me? Who knows. I decided to stick around go through with the date, recoup my thoughts and it will be bars and Mango square tonight. We had coffee, she turned out quite nice lady, from Zambonga, the place where the most beautiful Filipinas are from, had done IT course of some kind but currently out of job. We talked a lot, she had a strong American accent that I guess she picked up from her former bf. Overall she was pleasant. We ended up watching a movie together. Lots of kissing and filling up during the show, she wasn't shy at all. With no one around us at one point she took of my dick from my pants and started stroking it. Few seconds latter she started kissing it but that was about it. I guess she didn't lie about the period if she was willing to do this in the cinema I can only imagine what she would do in the bedroom. Date was over around 8. 30. 9. I give her 300 peso for her time, she says thanks and off she goes. I got a whole bunch of texts from her saying she could visit me in Manila in few days and so on and so on.

In the cab to mango square I got a phone call from Ms J from AC. She is furious that I lied to her, I should have told her I am still in Philippines. What can I say she gave me a free pass on the condition I don't lie to her and I did. I could have continued with my Bangkok story and tell her I got roaming and all that but I already felt bad and with all the shit happening around me in Cebu to be honest I felt indifferent. I have a whole bunch of girls in Manila that I could call on and I was looking forward to seeing so at the moment I didn't care. Then the txt followed. All sort of drama and then I thought about it. She was the reason for the trip, she was by far the best lay so far, and far better then what I have in Manila. The endless pursuit for better has brought me fuck all in the last 24 hours and I am now in a bar where I can't find anything worth talking to let alone taking out. Cebu is a funny place. It has nice girls but their pay 4 play bar scene is pathetic. Few bars latter I end up in Pussycats (I think thats the name) where few months ago there was a girl that I really really liked. At first I get this ugly bird seating next to me trying to talk to me but I ignore her. She is persistant trying to get a drink. I still ignore her although I started answering her set of usual questions. I finally call the one I like and start talking to her ignoring the other and she finally gets the message and goes. The one I liked remembers be from few months ago when I was there with my manila cutie. We couldn't talk her into a 3some but I told her I will be back for her. She remembered me even remembered what I drank, where we seat, remembered playing pool with us. LOL I guess I must have left a good impression. In haven again. At least for few seconds. She then tells me she is reserved and can be with me tomorrow. I asked for the bill. Payed and moved to Juliana's. I had enough. Cebu was turning out in a disaster. I don't know if its just me but for some reason I am preaty sure I saw few ladyboys in Julianas. I haven't noticed them in the past is this a new trend? I didn't find anything and moved to the other club right next to Julianas. Much nicer place, bit more expensive but at least no ladyboys in sight. I looked around for maybe an hour or so, drinking by the bar when I finally found a nice spinner that was talking to few of her frinds. I invited her over we chatted for a while, I bought her a drink and invited her to my place. She accepted and we went outside for a drink and something to eat. I wasn't going to have my night fucked up again so I was going to ask fucking everything this time. I just didn't care, if she doesn't like it she can go back to the club. I asked and asked and I got the right answers, she laughed a lot but I told her my story in cebu so far so she understood. After eating she just said lets go I will fuck your brains out now so you don't think bad of cebu. Well what can I say. In the taxi she was all over me. In the room we couldn't even get to the shower. I think we fucked twice before going to shower and then continued fucking again and again making use of all the furniture in the room. She stayed until 10am and when I asked what she wants she just said 1500 is enough. I gave her 2000 and off she went.

Mc Don
12-22-11, 13:52
i had breakfast at the hotel and then had a then some business related meeting until around 2pm. i had earlier scheduled a meeting with another dia cutie, ms k that i have been in touch for some time for 3pm. for 7 pm i had another long term chat mate ms s planned that recently just got married and was in final stages of getting her visa before she moves to europe. now after ms m, ms s was my main goal so i left her for the grand finale. she has been texting me for the past few days all the things she would do to me so i was sure i had a winner there. only problem was how long she could stay considering her circumstances.

around 2. 30 i txtedms k to see if she is on her way. she was and we agreed to meet at the joliebee in sm. to cut the long story short, her battery died, and we could not find each other at the joliebee. i know it sounds crazy but thats what happened. last call i made i could hear she was there but phone conversation cut off a second latter and that was it. you would think she would try to recharge her phone in mc donalds or somewhere but hey that requires a brain. i hang around joliebee for few minutes and then left for the hotel. i got few txts from her in the next few days but i didn't even bother replaying. on her dia i left a 'nice' message and that was it. i watched football until around 6. 30 when i got a txt from ms s that she is on her way. few minutes latter i got another txt from her that she is front of the hotel can i pick her up. i went down and wow. she is far more beautiful then her photos and on cam. she is about 1. 70m tall, great boobs and perfect legs. wearing a a black cocktail dress she puts the hostess in radison blu to shame. i am speechless. i quickly usher her to the elevator as few filipinos are ogling her (there was a weading or some sort of party happening in the hotel). in the room we talk for few minutes before we move on to the bed and at first i get the usual i am married now, lets talk but once my hands touch her pussy she opens up like a flower. she is wet and it takes only few strokes for to take of her panties and for me to bury my face into her. few minutes latter condom comes on she is riding me like she has never seen a dick before. well its been over 6 months for her and i can see she is enjoying it. i flip her over and do her doggy for a while as she strougles to take off all her clothes. then we move on to the chair and she is rocking for a second i think of my leg and what if the chair collapses so i put her on the desk and finish her there. we both cum at the same time smiling. we get back to bed talk more before another round. this time while she is riding me i start playing with her ass and then a bury my finger inside. she is hurting but she has done anal before so she doesn't resist. she rides me for a while with first my index finger in her ass then my thumb. i do her doggy and again with lots of spit i start inserting one then two fingers in her ass getting her moist and ready. i make her play with her pussy while i insert my dick in her ass and she yells a bit but she is not refusing. slowly centimetre by centimetre i am deeper and deeper inside her. she rocks her body on to me for the last few centimetres i guess wanting to get it quicker. well i was in haven. this time for real. i fucked her for a while cuming all over her back on the end. she looks at the time and she needs to go soon so we go to the shower. she washes me and then outside she gives me a nice blow job before i decide to go for one last ride. about 30 min latter i explode inside her mouth she insisted she wanted a piece of me. she swallowed it all smilled and got dressed. i gave her 3000 she refused saying its way too much and that she doesn't want money, can she have some chocolates instead. i talked her into taking the money after all this one i intend to keep in my stable. she is moving in january to europe, in a city which i spend a week or so every year so i figure this one is worth keeping. i have recived plenty of txts from her thanking me, it turns out that she ended up needing the money after all cristmas is on the corner and her husband send less then what he normally does as he is coming over before new year. turned out perfect i guess.

anyway back to story. she lives around 10. 15 pm i take another shower and decide to go to the discos in it park that ms m told me about. i get dressed and walk downstares i get give number 14 in taxi que in the hotel so i walk to sm hoping to catch a cab there. no luck there either so i walk onto the street. i start walking towards mango square hoping to catch a taxi on the way. we often criticize manila cabs but fuck me cebu are just as bad. infect i would say worse. few cabbies stopped and once i told them where i am heading they just drove off. not even malate style negotiation start with the fucking ridiculous and get 100 peso over the fare. nothing, just a blank face and foot on the gas. i was once again cursing thinking number 14 was not so bad lol. then a cab stopped and asked me where i am going. he then pointed to a passanger at the back and said, sure i will take you there once i drop of ms v at mango square. i set at the front, meter was showing 194 peso but it was already too late. to be honest i could not care about the money but i thought this may turn ugly or another bangkok style taxi highjek. the driver was cool though. he intrdoced me to ms v and asked me if i am after a girl. i told him i want to check out it park but yeah thats what i am after. he smiled and said maybe i should turn back to your hotel with his head pointing at ms v. i turned around and she was nice. slim, nice face wearing a skinny black t shirt that revealed a nice set of boobs. well i changed my mind and told the driver i am going to mango too. he smiled and just said maybe you want to seat at the back. i smiled, he pulled over. i transferred at the back and the 3 of us were now laughing. ms v kept saying oh my god i have never done this before, the cab driver was fixing up his mirror knowing that a show is about to start. i could not care less so i started touching and whispering to ms v, the usual crap, how old is she and so on. i was really ripping into her when we arrived. meter was around 240 or so, i gave the cab driver 300 and walked out. i was planning on few quick drinks with ms v and a meal, i wanted some time to recover from ms s but then i saw the cabby handing ms v 100 peso. they rigged the meter how fucking typical, i knew i was being conned but hey 10 mines of top entertainment plus a ride hm, who gives a fuck. we line up for julianas her expecting me to pay but i just whispered use the money the cab driver gave you, and paid for myself only. inside she hung around me for few minutes lol, but once she saw me talking to other girls she went to her friends and that was the end of ms v. like the night before julianas didn't do it for me so i moved on to the club beside. i stayed there for couple of hours enjoying the music and slowly getting drunk exchanging txts with ms j from ac. she was suppose to meet me in manila tomorrow but because i lied to her she wouldn't. my mind was made up that i want to spend the last 2 days with her, i figured at abc they will look after me my leg is still not recovered, manila would be far more walking so i finally talked her into giving me another chance. the deal was i had to make my way to ac. with that finally done, it took like 100 txts typical filipino drama i guess but she was worth it, i moved on to a honey with what seemed like enormous jugs for her body frame. a drink latter, we were out of the club together. across the road for some chinese and then the cab back to the hotel. we fucked couple of times, she received few txts and at around 4 she wanted to leave and asked for 2000, i told her this is really short time and all i will give her is 1000 or she can stay another 2 hours with me if she wants the 2k. she accepted 1000 gave me her phone number and left. at that point i realised that in few hours i got a plane to catch so i rang reception to organise a wake up call for 6. 30am. i set my cell phone alarm clocks and go to sleep.

no prices for guessing what happens next. i wake up at 9am an hour before my flight lives. i pack, i check out, i get 30 min before the flight to the airport but check in closes 45 min before the flight so i missed it. i go to the ticket counter and the choice is cebu pacific 12 noon or zest in 10. 30. i gamble on zest air, notorious for being late or cancelled but at $42 i figure i due some luck on this trip. zest air leaves 11. 45 of to ac via manila we go.

to be continued on ac board.

huh. few notes from this trip. cebu has never been a good hunting spot for me. i realise i haven't given this city the respect and time it deserves but this is largely due to my circumstances. i have it good in manila and ac so cebu for me turns into a 3-4 day side trip that is nowhere near enough to get the best out of the city. its also hard to follow up on ac when it comes to p4p or manila when it comes to nightlife p4p or anything really. one is a city of 20 mil another of 700k. i know many regulars would probably disagree with what i write here but i think cebu is a city of average. average nightlife, average beaches, average food, average accommodation. its cheaper then manila so thats another attraction. i still think the best looking cebuanas in the p4p scene are in manila or ac. burgos has far more beautiful cebuanas then any of the bars in cebu and if you really want to find a top notch cebuana just go to angel witch in ac. i went to most bars on my second night and i found 1 that i would barfine. thats it folks only one. in sm mall i saw few nice girls but nothing special. i got few smiles but not even close to the action you have in malate. julianas has gone down in quality and so have the other discos around mango square. if i have to rate them i would put them on part with mbc with far far far less stock even quality for a friday night. again price is cheaper, girls drinks, entry fees (compared to manila discos) and so on. overall i say give it a shot before you go to manila or ac, stay at last 10 days to make it work and perhaps not a bad place to retire. for less time then that go elsewehere.

Becker34
12-22-11, 16:28
Just left a couple days ago. Good trip overall. Spent 3 days in Cebu. Been there many times but this is my first post.

Arrived with a friend from Mindanao who had been in Manila with me for 2 days. Was a second meet with her. She said only second guy she's been with. Who knows. I don't want to be the first. But ooh was she tight. Could barely put a finger in at first. Got it nice and wet with the tongue for awhile which she seemed to enjoy. Then I really lubed her up and played. By the time she was comfortable with two fingers switched to sex. Nothing like a nice tight clean philipina. 18 yo, tight body, sweet but sexy face. I'm going and enjoying myself. She hurting but I think lubed up enough that it's not killin her. Anyways, I get to the top and I'm really feelin it and I exclaim oh shit in ecstasy as I cum. This sweet young thing stops and she looks at me and says "what" like she's hurt me or something. I just bust up laughin! Cute and innocent.

Spend a few days in Manila but I've got some other friends I want to meet in Cebu but I'm not done with this girl so I bring her to Cebu with me. We get there and I've only got 3 days in Cebu and I'm trying to decide how much of it to spend with ms Mindanao. So we go to Juliana first night and she gets really drunk. Been pretty shy up to his point. I'm seeing some other lookers and making some good eye contact so I ask her to go back to the hotel and meet me there. I say I have some friends to say Hi to. She protests and is really disappointed but goes. I play for a few hours and I'm trying to figure out what to do. But she's in my hotel room do options limited.

I go back to the hotel. She asleep on the couch. I wake her up and apologize and ms shy girl turns porn star on me. Oh shit is right this time. She jumps me and is riding me like a cowgirl and in control of the action. No innocent "what" this time.

Don't really understand the transformation. The alcohol, me dissin her, what. But worked out good for me whatever it was. One of the best sessions ever.

WestCoast1
12-22-11, 17:08
Huh. Few notes from this trip. Cebu has never been a good hunting spot for me. I realise I haven't given this city the respect and time it deserves but this is largely due to my circumstances. I have it good in Manila and AC so Cebu for me turns into a 3-4 day side trip that is nowhere near enough to get the best out of the city. Its also hard to follow up on AC when it comes to P4P or Manila when it comes to nightlife P4P or anything really. One is a city of 20 mil another of 700K. I know many regulars would probably disagree with what I write here but I think Cebu is a city of average. Average nightlife, average beaches, average food, average accommodation. Its cheaper then manila so thats another attraction.Great set of reports.

Here is the problem that I discovered on a recent trip. Most of us use either P4P, or dating site contacts. Prior to that trip, I was batting 99% with dating site contacts. Like McDon, I was chatting up ladies on cam who agreed to the meet-and-bang. My dating site profile is like RK's, very specific looking for nawty only. Talking about it in advance always worked before. But on that trip, bouncing around filipines (both Cebu and provinces) , I was getting rejected at the meeting point (often Bo's or Starbucks or such). In CDO over the course of several days, I batted zero, striking out with more online girls than I could shake a stick at. I'm not used to that kind of thing, sitting at Starbucks Lemkatki, having a girl who previously said YES to every nawty thing say NO she can't come to my hotel. Send her on her way, txt another girl who shows up 45 minutes later, only to hear the same thing. Makes you want to get more intimate with the local P4P scene again (its a crappy scene in CDO).

On the other hand, as you can see from the many pics, I've done well in Cebu. Where else are girls (pros or dating site contacts) fine with 500 or 700? Where else, after banging them, do they offer to bring friends, cousins, sisters?

Also McDon, you mentioned in one of your reports you visited the Mango gogo bars. Was that the Vikings group? You said you didn't see anything that lit you up. I think if you sit in Vikings or Sisters and don't see quite a number of cuties who make the flag stand up, too picky? We often see on the reports the gent says he was looking for this-type of girl, or he only likes that-type of girl. How many times have we seen reports saying: "Made the loop through MBC, didn't see anything that floated my boat." Do we set ourselves up for failure when we do that?

MauiDude
12-22-11, 17:23
Great set of reports.

On the other hand, as you can see from the many pics, I've done well in Cebu. Where else are girls (pros or dating site contacts) fine with 500 or 700? Where else, after banging them, do they offer to bring friends, cousins, sisters?

Also McDon, you mentioned in one of your reports you visited the Mango gogo bars. Was that the Vikings group? You said you didn't see anything that lit you up. I think if you sit in Vikings or Sisters and don't see quite a number of cuties who make the flag stand up, too picky? We often see on the reports the gent says he was looking for this-type of girl, or he only likes that-type of girl. How many times have we seen reports saying: "Made the loop through MBC, didn't see anything that floated my boat." Do we set ourselves up for failure when we do that?I don't do as well in cebu anymore either. It was great for me six years ago when I first came here.

Met tons of girls and also p4p was very good.

My attitude has changed and I am too picky now but I have the same problems with the dating site as McDon.

I have been living in angeles. I have more fun because more friends more girls and more time.

So many factors of why cebu has gone downhill for me. I am attracted to the nicer girls but they arent naughty enough and want more commitment.

Burned out a bit on the bar girls.

Have been to the vikings club and had really good expierences 4 5 and 6 years ago.

Now is not as good for me?

Still a lot of it is me. I don't want to invest the time or the money to make it work out.

So yes I like it as a short side trip not bad but not my favorite anymore.

Still looking for that young, skinny nice and naughty girl that just really gets me turned on.

Maybe in my dreams?

Member #4491
12-22-11, 17:39
McDon,

Thank you for your reports. Fun to read. Bummer about Cebu but IMHO you could maybe have fucked that business woman. Pinays are trained to say things and answer in a specific way, so best is to not talk to much and just help them decide in a more direct manner. If she was in your room like that, she was perhaps just playing hard to get to ensure her future market value in your eyes. I think she wanted the hammer, and with some hands on love and affection you would have had her pussy juiced up, her lips around your hammer and her sticky panties over your face. Do feel free to share her contacts details if you think she is up for more adventures.

Merry Christmas, mongers!

B.

Sammon
12-22-11, 17:54
Cebu is a great destination for normal, dating site girls. Ofcourse if on meeting they might not be interested in you irrespective of what they promised in chat. It is not cebu proper but you can get girls surrounding provinces including whole leyte area girls to come to cebu. If they come to cebu things are sort of guaranteed. Local cebu girls will leave if they do not like you.

I have not taken any P4P girls in Cebu or frequented bars except for a couple of drinks. Mainly because my normal girls have kept me happy and good companionship.

In Manila the girls icluding normal girls seem to have more choices and are jaded by big city life, not naive like province girls. Because Manila is expensive city to live in they expect and want more support and expensive gifts.

Ofcourse they know about all the latest gadgets.

Going to smaller province towns is not a good idea. Even the girls want to protect their reputation even if they live far away. Seen with a older foreign man is still taboo for a young girl.

So the best way is to fly her to cebu. If it works it will be great. Ofcourse there will be some dissappointments but overall you have not spent much on air-ticket or remuneration.

Jon von Neumann
12-22-11, 21:42
Continued from AC tread.

I landed in cebu around 10 pm. Ms M was supposed to pick me up from the airport but with all the crap that went the day before I wasn't sure if she will turn up. As soon as I landed I switched my phone on to find a txt from her that she is there already with the description of her vehicle and rego number. I was happy it seems she is going to go through with it. Ms M is a nice 27-28 year old realtor that runs her own company employing 25 people according to her. She has won awards as top salesman for Ayala. Educated in Japan, she moves high end property mainly to foreigners and overseas Filipinos. She drove a brand new Hyndai Tucson and had more gold on her then I have seen on any non celeb Filipina. Previous cam interactions showing a luxury condo also indicated that she was telling me the truth. Anyway I walk out of the airport in Cebu her car is just park outside so I get in and yeah she is gorgeous. Dressed in a sexy business suite, nice face and tits to die for DCups would approve. We quickly greet and kiss and off we go to the Radison Blu.

I got few smiles and she noticed so she immediately pulled me at the back in the seats there. My leg was hurting so I didn't mind but another bad sign that I read well this time. From then on I tried, tried, and tired to licker her up as I had a feeling it will be one of those nights that ends in disappointment. 2 am we are back in my room. She takes shower first, locks the door, comes out dressed in a sexy nighty. I take a shower come out naked and get into bed. First it was the lights, then the tv, then lets not do this, then I haven't been with a man for years, then I don't know you that well, then I am not like this. Well fuck I am. I turn the lights on, I ask her does she remember what she promised and does she realise that my time is precious and I could have had another girl now? She is quite but nods, so I ask her to get dressed and go. She does, but I can tell she is looking at me sort of begging for forgiveness without saying it. .McDon:

Good report.

But I think the business lady liked you and wanted you all to herself. She wanted more than you would probably ever give her. In the end you probably saved yourself some "commitment dramas" later-when she would try other methods of attaching a leash of some sort to keep you all to herself.

Who knows how many "good" guys she has struck out on so far in her life so; hence, her playing hard to get. But, you could've hit that P*ssy real hard with a bit of patience explaination that: (1) you don't enjoy hard to get games, (2) you were feeling sexually frustrated and needed release (is her mouth working?) and (3) there was no point sleeping together if no sexual release, openess and bodily exploration was in the offering. Nothing personal, honesty is the best policy.

I'd bet a dollar that she could've probably blown your mind with the sex-which is what I think she came back knocking on the door for. I feel sorry for the lad that will end up marrying and taking her to his home country. I'd bet she'd use sex as negotiating tool and a weapon and would leave his ass the moment she got what she wants. I've seen this script one too many times.

I do understand your frustration with her though. Your description of her responses to you in bed read like what my ex-wife used that used sex as a negotiating tool did during our marriage. In the end I got fed up and left her ass; life is too short to spend frustrated in bed. These days, I let the women know up front that their hard to get games are not cool with me. Nothing personal; just not cool. Calling their BS usually get them to lossen up more often than not with me now.

Next time, call it and hit it.

BL2K

Esteban30
12-23-11, 05:20
The main area I visited was Mango Avenue. About 500 meters away from Mango Square there are around 12 bars.

Drinks are not expensive. 50 pesos average.

Lady drink about 120 pesos.

If you to take a lady out it costs 1. 800 – 2. 000 pesos.

Not high quality but you can find some of them very beautiful.

Hotels are cheaper than Angeles City and Manila.

I recommend you to look for accommodation around Mango Square, Ramos Street.

I stayed in Diplomat Hotel, room cost 1. 400 pesos without breakfast.

A little nearer to the area it is Holiday Inn Plaza hotel, room cost 1. 800 pesos with a very nice breakfast (for one person, breakfast for two people it costs 2. 000 pesos)

No problem to get the lady inside in any of them.

I remember in the area the Vikingo Bar and another beside. The place worth a visit, and if you look for well you can find a beautiful one.

No problem with any of the ones I took.

Another tip; do not forget to attend a cockfighting, quite interesting.

The Rooster1
12-23-11, 08:47
Cebu is a great destination for normal, dating site girls. Ofcourse if on meeting they might not be interested in you irrespective of what they promised in chat. It is not cebu proper but you can get girls surrounding provinces including whole leyte area girls to come to cebu. If they come to cebu things are sort of guaranteed. Local cebu girls will leave if they do not like you.

I have not taken any P4P girls in Cebu or frequented bars except for a couple of drinks. Mainly because my normal girls have kept me happy and good companionship.

In Manila the girls icluding normal girls seem to have more choices and are jaded by big city life, not naive like province girls. Because Manila is expensive city to live in they expect and want more support and expensive gifts.

Ofcourse they know about all the latest gadgets.

Going to smaller province towns is not a good idea. Even the girls want to protect their reputation even if they live far away. Seen with a older foreign man is still taboo for a young girl.

So the best way is to fly her to cebu. If it works it will be great. Ofcourse there will be some dissappointments but overall you have not spent much on air-ticket or remuneration.Sammon I agree with your report except for one thing. Yes the province is very different but it's not taboo for a young girl to be with an older man. As long as its a serious relationship. Girls just don't want to bring someone there that is going to be gone in a couple months or going to hit on her friends. Foreigners are very welcome in the provinces and I'm talking in the deep province where quite a few people haven't had interaction with a foreigner. But of course you have to watch yourself anywhere you go, like in my case, their are some serious admirers of my girl and I can tell 2 or 3 don't like me. But the rest love me so no worries!

Stroker Ace88
12-24-11, 17:43
On Friday fire destroyed the Gaisano Capital building located in Colon. When fire crews first arrived at the building they were refused entry by "some unidentified men" as thick black smoke poured from the main floor and receiving area.

The fire raged for more than 18hrs with fire crews unable to gain access to the upper floors of the 7 story structure due to heat and thick smoke. The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.

No one was injured but an estimated 1000 employees are now without a job so if anyone has a honey or chatmate working there expect a message asking you to play santa.

WestCoast1
12-24-11, 19:27
On Friday fire destroyed the Gaisano Capital building located in Colon. When fire crews first arrived at the building they were refused entry by "some unidentified men" as thick black smoke poured from the main floor and receiving area.

The fire raged for more than 18hrs with fire crews unable to gain access to the upper floors of the 7 story structure due to heat and thick smoke. The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.

No one was injured but an estimated 1000 employees are now without a job so if anyone has a honey or chatmate working there expect a message asking you to play santa.Is that the Gaisano Metro mall downtown?

Cheapy
12-25-11, 01:19
It was Gaisano South across from McDo not Gaisano Metro. See details.

At sunstar cebu online.


Is that the Gaisano Metro mall downtown?

Red Kilt
12-25-11, 03:49
The breakdown of all three aerial ladder trucks available within the general Cebu City area made the fire more difficult to control.I have worked for the UN and they have a safety manual for travellers in SE Asia.

One piece of advice is to always stay in rooms on 6th floor or lower because fire brigades in SE Asian cities rarely have ladders that will extend beyond the 4th to 6th floore.

In this case it seems even that wouldn't have been safe if the fire had been in a residential building because the ladders were all broken.

Brymor
12-25-11, 04:15
I arrived back in Cebu Christmas Eve on the Cathay flight from HK. Arrivals was very smooth and quick for a change and apart from waiting 40 minutes for my luggage no other hassles. Daisy and the kids were waiting to meet me and before long we were in a taxi heading to the Waterfront in Lahug. Hotel is still busy over Christmas though there are not many Westerners here at the moment, it is mainly Koreans. Breakfast was entertaining this morning, I was having breakfast with Daisy's kids watching some obese Korean kid about 11 years old throwing a tantrum.

I left Daisy and the kids with money to buy dinner last night and I headed off to do some exploring alone. I met a couple of DIA dates, one at the Metro Colon Street and the other at the Metro in Mandaue. Got myself a bit confused as both appointments were within the space of one hour and as they were both at different places called Metro, at one point I forgot who was who.

Met both girls and the usual entourage that accompanied them and although cute I was only interested in them if they were going to open up their legs that night. Both girls were not typical DIA contacts, they were more interested in dating than fucking and will require a little more work than I was prepared to invest at the moment.

I went for a walkabout in Colon Street and surrounding area last night at around 11. Most shops were shut but Colon Street had been closed to traffic and there was a massive thriving street market. Lots of people around and quite a few young hookers who approached me but they were typical street girls and not really to my taste.

I went to Jonquera at about midnight and was hounded by 3 street pimps who would not leave me alone. In the end I settled outside one of the shacks with a female pimp and shared a beer with her. I was introduced to about 10 young girls all questioningly hovering around the 18 mark but again nothing took my fancy. I spent about 45 minutes watching the world go by and then took a stroll into the heart of Jonquera. There was an impromtu disco going full blast with lots of people about all having a good time. Absolutely no problems even though I was alone I felt safe but I was sober and as always fully alert.

I then took a cab to Mango Square, it seemed business as usual and I took a stroll into Juliannas or whatever it is now called. Quite busy inside, an SM light cost 60 pesos and with a 100 peso cover charge it was not too bad. Mainly Korean girls inside and not many pros or semi pros that I could see.

There were some old faces outside, regular girls I seem to see everytime I am in town. The cafe opposite was very busy, with lots of older Western guys sipping coffees and beers alone and looking quite miserable. All the bars up the road were closed, Vikings, Hot Lips etc.

I have quite a few DIA appointments lined up for today (Christmas Day). I thought it might be difficult to meet girls over the holiday period but so far it does not seem to have had any adverse effect. I think Ayalla Mall is still open today, I hope so as I have a few dates lined up!

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Mongers

Snow Koala
12-25-11, 10:38
Hey Mortman,

I am in Cebu from Christmas day for 3 days. Do you know if the Mango St bars are open Christmas night (25th) or if not, when they will be open again?

Snow.


I arrived back in Cebu Christmas Eve on the Cathay flight from HK. Arrivals was very smooth and quick for a change and apart from waiting 40 minutes for my luggage no other hassles. Daisy and the kids were waiting to meet me and before long we were in a taxi heading to the Waterfront in Lahug. Hotel is still busy over Christmas though there are not many Westerners here at the moment, it is mainly Koreans. Breakfast was entertaining this morning, I was having breakfast with Daisy's kids watching some obese Korean kid about 11 years old throwing a tantrum.

I left Daisy and the kids with money to buy dinner last night and I headed off to do some exploring alone. I met a couple of DIA dates, one at the Metro Colon Street and the other at the Metro in Mandaue. Got myself a bit confused as both appointments were within the space of one hour and as they were both at different places called Metro, at one point I forgot who was who.

Met both girls and the usual entourage that accompanied them and although cute I was only interested in them if they were going to open up their legs that night. Both girls were not typical DIA contacts, they were more interested in dating than fucking and will require a little more work than I was prepared to invest at the moment.

I went for a walkabout in Colon Street and surrounding area last night at around 11. Most shops were shut but Colon Street had been closed to traffic and there was a massive thriving street market. Lots of people around and quite a few young hookers who approached me but they were typical street girls and not really to my taste.

I went to Jonquera at about midnight and was hounded by 3 street pimps who would not leave me alone. In the end I settled outside one of the shacks with a female pimp and shared a beer with her. I was introduced to about 10 young girls all questioningly hovering around the 18 mark but again nothing took my fancy. I spent about 45 minutes watching the world go by and then took a stroll into the heart of Jonquera. There was an impromtu disco going full blast with lots of people about all having a good time. Absolutely no problems even though I was alone I felt safe but I was sober and as always fully alert.

I then took a cab to Mango Square, it seemed business as usual and I took a stroll into Juliannas or whatever it is now called. Quite busy inside, an SM light cost 60 pesos and with a 100 peso cover charge it was not too bad. Mainly Korean girls inside and not many pros or semi pros that I could see.

There were some old faces outside, regular girls I seem to see everytime I am in town. The cafe opposite was very busy, with lots of older Western guys sipping coffees and beers alone and looking quite miserable. All the bars up the road were closed, Vikings, Hot Lips etc.

I have quite a few DIA appointments lined up for today (Christmas Day). I thought it might be difficult to meet girls over the holiday period but so far it does not seem to have had any adverse effect. I think Ayalla Mall is still open today, I hope so as I have a few dates lined up!

Merry Christmas to all my fellow Mongers

Brymor
12-25-11, 12:09
SK.

I have no idea but if I was a betting man I would wager a very large amount of money on the bars being shut again tonight. I will probably head back there tonight anyway at least Mango Square seems to be business as usual. Both SM and Ayalla malls were absolutely brimming with people today, it all seems so strange when compared to the UK where everything literally shuts down on Christmas day.

Ended up with an 18 year old girl I met last night outside Robinsons in the early hours. Very very shy, I thought she was a street hooker at first but that was not possible given her acute shyness. She was with her sister and friend and I arranged to meet them again outside Robinsons this afternoon. After some negotiation with her sister I arranged for her to come to my hotel for 1000 pesos.

Well when I say my hotel I was referring to the Queensland! Paid my 350 for the room which by the way had completely been refurbished to a high standard. The towels were freshly laundered and sealed in polythene, but they still looked like rags I would wash my car with back home. Can't see the point of refurbishing a room to such a high standard and then providing towels that look like they belong in some back street 200 peso slum *****house.

Erica was tiny with a very very tight pussy that took some playing with to get her ready, but she was more than eager and willing once I started to penetrate her. I was not in the mood for a long passionate sex session nor was I interested in giving pleasure and climbed aboard missionary style for what may have lasted a few minutes at most. This was sex at its most basic and primitive form with me climaxing very quickly.....well it has been a few days!

Taxi back to Robinsons where I dropped off Erica where her friends were waiting eagerly for her to buy dinner with her new found wealth of 1000 pesos. I just felt relieved and contented and headed back to see Daisy and the kids at the Waterfront!

Stroker Ace88
12-25-11, 22:33
It was Gaisano South across from McDo not Gaisano Metro. See details.

At sunstar cebu online.Yes that's correct and at the same time the fire was burning inside Gaisano, fire also broke out inside the McDo! The restaurant was full of people and it appears a generator overheated. LOL, fortunately there were alot of firemen around to put the fire out quickly in McDo.

Many are speculating that the Gaisano fire is suspicious because of the timing. The main office is located on the upper floors and all the tax records for 2011 went up in smoke. Now they can rebuild new for next to nothing and only remit a low-ball tax estimation. The same owner is involved with white gold club located on lower Mango. That building went up in flames long ago and was never rebuilt and now stands as a empty shell awaiting a condo developer to come knocking on the door.

Fire is a daily event in the Philippines and it touches many lives. The electrical standards are non-existant and everything is just good enough to work so no one questions or looks into the future to what can happen.

Stroker Ace88
12-25-11, 22:52
Well when I say my hotel I was referring to the Queensland! Paid my 350 for the room which by the way had completely been refurbished to a high standard. The towels were freshly laundered and sealed in polythene, but they still looked like rags I would wash my car with back home. Can't see the point of refurbishing a room to such a high standard and then providing towels that look like they belong in some back street 200 peso slum *****house.Mortman.

Welcome back to Cebu.

What Queensland did you go to? V. Rama or one of the two locations on lower Mango between CC City Health and the white gold corner? I heard Queensland is now asking for the 3hr room fee up front. Can you confirm?

Brymor
12-26-11, 00:15
Mortman.

Welcome back to Cebu.

What Queensland did you go to? V. Rama or one of the two locations on lower Mango between CC City Health and the white gold corner? I heard Queensland is now asking for the 3hr room fee up front. Can you confirm?It was the one nearest SM Mall, price was 350 short time and I paid on checking out.

Snow Koala
12-26-11, 13:56
For the record, all the bars were open last night except for Loan Star Saloon which is closed 23, 24 and 25 which means it is open tonight.

The bars and clubs around Mango Sq all seem to be open as well.

There is a big club at the back called "J Ave". Is this Julianas?

Snow.

[QUOTE=Mortman; 1230010]SK.

I have no idea but if I was a betting man I would wager a very large amount of money on the bars being shut again tonight. I will probably head back there tonight anyway at least Mango Square seems to be business as usual. Both SM and Ayalla malls were absolutely brimming with people today, it all seems so strange when compared to the UK where everything literally shuts down on Christmas day.

Mc Don
12-26-11, 14:29
There is a big club at the back called "J Ave". Is this Julianas?

Snow.YES, thats julianas.

Brymor
12-26-11, 15:11
Met up with WR another well known ISG member for drinks at Bo's on the terrace of Ayalla today. I also had arranged to meet a DIA date at the same place, someone I had never met on cam and someone I had only exchanged mail with a couple of times. Half way through our drinks, 18 year old Cherry arrived. She was very slim and very cute, not in a beautiful way but in a fresh innocent looking sort of way if that makes sense. She seemed very shy but soon got chatting and it turns out she has been having sex since the age of 13. Her first foreigner was a Korean at the age of 15 and she has not looked back since. It is amazing how some of these girls can appear quite innocent until you get chatting to them, however the giveaway with this girl was a large but tasteful tatoo above her right breast and clearly visible through the skimpy top she was wearing. A tatoo on a girl is often a good indication that she has been round the block more than a few times!
I normally run a mile when I see a a tatoo it has always been the one thing that turns me off women. However Cherry was an endearing girl and I took a shine to her immediately, as did WR. She would not win any beauty contests but she was still a lovely cute girl.
Anyway I cut short my meeting with WR and headed back to the hotel with my new found friend. I had to temporarily evict Daisy and the kids from the room so I had the place to myself and then we got down to business. Both of us showered and within minutes we were on the bed in a naked embrace, towels left in a wet pile by the edge of the bed.
Cherry wasted no time at all and started sucking my nipples, before gradually moving down to suck my now hard and throbbing cock. She interspersed the sucking to come up briefly and French kiss me in the mouth. I then pushed her onto the bed on her back and began kissing her body all over and then sucking her nipples and she was getting visibly excited, breathing more heavily as I moved to her small tits and nipples. I began sucking them delicately at first before sucking more strongly. Cherry had a beatiful body, perfectly toned with not one ounce of fat anywhere. Enough was enough and after about 15 minutes of this I was in no mood to wait any further, I pushed her on her back and mounted her wet pussy, sliding in slowly and building up a steady and slow rythym. I lasted about 7-8 minutes before exploding (yes I would not win any sexual marathons) and my excuse is that I did not want Daisy and the kids to be kept waiting for the room. I settled back to relax and chat for a few minutes. A very quick joint shower followed, we got dressed and took a taxi back to Ayalla. I gave her 1000 and took her for a pizza before sending her on her way. She is coming back tomorrow with a student friend of hers so I hope to have more fun tomorrow. Have given WR the number of Cherry I hope he has as much fun as I did during our brief encounter.
Met back up with WR at his hotel for a drink where he introduced me to one of his (many) female friends. Probably one of the best looking girls I have ever seen...,period! I am not exagerrating when I say that this girl could easily work at the best up market Korean clubs in town and still outshine many of the girls there. WR you are one lucky SOB

Mc Don
12-26-11, 15:17
Don you have me so excited about my virgin trip to Cebu. You talk like it is a holy grail or something. Then to read that you were disappointed and thought you wasted your time with those chicks? There are guys who spend much more for a back crack and jack. Is there something I am missing here? To me it reads like it was time and money well spent. I especially like how you did not give Ms C any taxi money because she didn't do anything. This shows you are not a cream puff guy.What can I say, VALUE FOR MONEY absolutely. The thing is I was looking for sex, for the first time ever in phils I spent a night alone and to say that I was frustrated its just an understatement. Few guys here picked it up I think I went to cebu with the wrong attitude. I treated Ms M like a common AC bar girl and she wasn't. It was a major fuck up the night before and when I set up the meeting with Ms B after few messages on DIA and a phone conversation I though I did well. When I saw the 3 I though I did really well. I was up only to be let down during lunch, poor conversation that kind of led me to believe I am not going to get anywhere. Then up again walking down the mall each one taking turns to kiss and hold me, up again in the room when they started striping without even been asked to do so then down when they didn't want to fuck or even suck (with the exception of Ms D. Like the entire trip it was a constant battle of ups and downs. I didn't get what I wanted but yeah I agree with you anywhere else in the world any other time even in phils this would have been one great experience. Even now when I think about it, it was enjoyable. I guess it wasn't what I was looking for at the time.

Good luck in Cebu. Its very different to Manila or AC, never the less its still fun.

Mc Don
12-26-11, 15:21
McDon,

Thank you for your reports. Fun to read. Bummer about Cebu but IMHO you could maybe have fucked that business woman. Pinays are trained to say things and answer in a specific way, so best is to not talk to much and just help them decide in a more direct manner. If she was in your room like that, she was perhaps just playing hard to get to ensure her future market value in your eyes. I think she wanted the hammer, and with some hands on love and affection you would have had her pussy juiced up, her lips around your hammer and her sticky panties over your face. Do feel free to share her contacts details if you think she is up for more adventures.

Merry Christmas, mongers!

B.You are probably right. I no longer want anything to do with her I can pass on phone number and her ym user name, she is no longer on dia. Let me know if you want it.

Mc Don
12-26-11, 15:54
McDon:

Good report.

But I think the business lady liked you and wanted you all to herself. She wanted more than you would probably ever give her. In the end you probably saved yourself some "commitment dramas" later-when she would try other methods of attaching a leash of some sort to keep you all to herself.

Who knows how many "good" guys she has struck out on so far in her life so; hence, her playing hard to get. But, you could've hit that P*ssy real hard with a bit of patience explaination that: (1) you don't enjoy hard to get games, (2) you were feeling sexually frustrated and needed release (is her mouth working?) and (3) there was no point sleeping together if no sexual release, openess and bodily exploration was in the offering. Nothing personal, honesty is the best policy.

I'd bet a dollar that she could've probably blown your mind with the sex-which is what I think she came back knocking on the door for. I feel sorry for the lad that will end up marrying and taking her to his home country. I'd bet she'd use sex as negotiating tool and a weapon and would leave his ass the moment she got what she wants. I've seen this script one too many times.

I do understand your frustration with her though. Your description of her responses to you in bed read like what my ex-wife used that used sex as a negotiating tool did during our marriage. In the end I got fed up and left her ass; life is too short to spend frustrated in bed. These days, I let the women know up front that their hard to get games are not cool with me. Nothing personal; just not cool. Calling their BS usually get them to lossen up more often than not with me now.

Next time, call it and hit it.

BL2KYou are right. In the txts that she sent me while in AC and the last few chats we had she sort of hinted that she is not into friends with benefits and wants an exclusive relationship. I don't lie to them, so they know upfront what I am after and that they won't be the only one that I will be seeing. I think it was a combination of few things that ruined it for me that night. First I went to cebu with the wrong mindset, second I wasn't patient enough with her and third I should have maybe been more gentle let her settle in the bed before making advances.

The thing is she did promise me the world over ym. Now I didn't put this in the report because I wanted to keep it shorter and only trip related but promises included sex on yacht, cruising to virgin islands near cebu (day 2 was planned for that initially) , also sex on some rooftops and funky apartments that she had access to as a realtor. What can I say we both had creative minds LOL.

Another thing I didn't mention is that she had only one previous relationship in her life and it ended up badly. The guy use to abuse her and beat her up to the point that she had to call the cops on him who couldn't do anything because he was related to a household name in the Philippines. One of the cops suggested she should live manila if he was such a bad bloke. She did and since she has been using vibrators. She also had a bad business experience with a Chinese man so she seemed like she had build a wall when it came to dealing with man. I could see her going down the path of one of my Jakarta favourites who few months ago ended up in a sperm bank and is now pregnant because she reached 30 and all her relationships were ending badly. I can actually see this one doing the same thing.

I think it could have happened under the right circumstances. Too late now, time to work on the next one.

Mr Enternational
12-26-11, 22:27
I don't remember who it was that mentioned a Cebu Pacific flight from Cebu to AC, but I wish that I would have read it or at least had the sense to google before booking my roundtrip non-refundable MNL CEB flight on Philippine Air. That booking cost me 2454 PHP. I was supposed to leave Cebu at 11:10am and arrive in Manila at 12:30pm. From there I would have taken the Victory Liner bus to Angeles probably arriving around 5pm; almost 6 hours of travel time for the day.

After looking online and finding that Cebu Pacific flight that leaves Cebu at 5pm and arrives in Angeles at 6:20pm I decided to jump on it for 2289 PHP and take the 1227 PHP loss on the CEB MNL leg. To me it sounded like a damn good deal considering a taxi from Manila to Angeles is 2000 PHP. Also, I will be able to stay in Cebu a few hours longer and arrive directly into AC without wasting 2 or 3 hours in a bus or taxi only spending 1 hour and 20 minutes of travel time for the day. Sweet.

Stroker Ace88
12-26-11, 23:31
I don't remember who it was that mentioned a Cebu Pacific flight from Cebu to AC, but I wish that I would have read it or at least had the sense to google before booking my roundtrip non-refundable MNL CEB flight on Philippine Air.

After looking online and finding that Cebu Pacific flight that leaves Cebu at 5pm and arrives in Angeles at 6:20pm I decided to jump on it for 2289 PHP and take the 1227 PHP loss on the CEB MNL leg. To me it sounded like a damn good deal considering a taxi from Manila to Angeles is 2000 PHP. Also, I will be able to stay in Cebu a few hours longer and arrive directly into AC without wasting 2 or 3 hours in a bus or taxi only spending 1 hour and 20 minutes of travel time for the day. Sweet.The Cebu Pacific (CP) flight into AC from Cebu operates a few days a week and is the most direct route, but on occasion the flight is cancelled when the load factor is low. As a result you will be flown to Manila on the next available flight providing there are available seats and then bused to AC.

IMO it's worth booking the flight and rolling the dice. Worst thing that happens will be a longer journey to AC. Not sure if CP's website allows you to check how many seats have been sold like they do on PAL. This info might give you a good idea if the flight is a go.

Snow Koala
12-27-11, 07:18
For Mongers wanting to come to Phil for a 10 day trip, then the loop of Manila. Cebu. AC. Manila is a good round trip.

Cebu Pacific or Philippine Airlines from Manila to Cebu (1 hour). Cebu Pacific from Cebu to Clark (Angeles City airport) and then road from AC to Manila is a good round trip. Road from AC to Manila can be coach or if you want to get direct to the airport, you can get a driver with a company like beeline travel.

Cebu girls or Cubanas are definitely my favourite. In general they are kind, soft, sweet natured, good fresh positive outlook personalilities and speak reasonably good english.


The Cebu Pacific (CP) flight into AC from Cebu operates a few days a week and is the most direct route, but on occasion the flight is cancelled when the load factor is low. As a result you will be flown to Manila on the next available flight providing there are available seats and then bused to AC.

IMO it's worth booking the flight and rolling the dice. Worst thing that happens will be a longer journey to AC. Not sure if CP's website allows you to check how many seats have been sold like they do on PAL. This info might give you a good idea if the flight is a go.

Snow Koala
12-28-11, 05:33
I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

Snow

Weyco Kid
12-28-11, 06:34
Was wondering why WR does not post anymore. We miss his reports.Yes I was also wondering where WR disappeared to.

He was very generous regarding recommendations from his substantial "TRAP LINE"

A Canadian Term. I have fond memories.

However, I know that he worked in Dubai and posted from there 3 years or so back.

Maybe he is off in the restricted middle east building up his $ for more fun.

Fun and frolicing in Cebu!

All the best wherever you are

Sammon
12-28-11, 17:54
I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

SnowNever complain about security. We Americans learn the hard way. Total security is good for all including passengers. As you know Phi has an insurgency and they would love to kill innocent people.

I never complain delay, waiting in line etc all because of security.

BionicMan
12-28-11, 17:54
Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.SnowThis reminds me heavily of another country setting up checks and controls within eyeview of the other controller.

Stroker Ace88
12-28-11, 18:28
I just checked in to the SuperCat from Cebu to Tagbilaran and there are been some changes. First of all, we now have to buy the ticket across the round and around the corner, not inside the door as before. It maybe a good idea to buy tickets in advance next time. The ticket now only includes 15kg luggage or Porter allowance and since we had dive gear, we had to pay an additional 400 peso but the funny thing is the number of control points:

1. 10 peso at the gate while in the taxi to get onto the pier.

2. Long queue to buy the ticket, lucky we arrived early.

3. Security guard to get into the building.

4. Machine luggage check.

5. Dog luggage check.

6. Weighing of the luggage and paying the mandatory 'Porter fee'

7. Ticket check and photo.

8. Check in.

9. Boarding ticket check.

Don't Filipinos love to put up barriers and control points.

SnowYou can buy fastcraft tickets at various locations around Cebu and not only at the pier. Personally I would not buy them more then a few days in advance and I would consult PAGASA to make sure the conditions will be safe to travel. A few months ago the fastcraft Weesam Express 8 left Tagbilaran heading for Cebu and ran aground near Talisay. The 200+ passengers and crew had to be rescued and the fastcraft was towed to Cebu.

Because you purchased Supercat tickets and not regular ferry tickets the luggage allowance is smaller. Faster=lighter and you paid the same as if you would have booked a flight on Cebu Pacific.

It's the Holiday period and increased security measures are in place since around Dec 20th. The main method to travel from island to island is by ferry, hence all the increased security. It doesn't sound to me like you went through any additional security because you were a foreigner and seemed pretty normal. Also armed gangs are somewhat bolder during the holiday period with more cash being spent in the malls and stores. Some of those gangs will travel to other islands to commit holdups and robberies and most will use ferries.

The use of a porter is not manditory and given the fact you had extra bags of dive gear the porter option is a good one. The price is small and as long as you didn't have anything too fragile in your bags, was worth it.

Hairy Wonder
12-29-11, 03:02
I am in touch with WR and he is still as perverted as ever. He has a special cutie in Cebu and for personal reasons has stopped posting for the moment. He promises to return "better than ever" in the future.I hope WR has a lot of fun with is "special cutie in Cebu" and returns to the boards soon. Reading about his exploits made for a lot of fun.

HW

Chocha Monger
12-29-11, 07:11
I am in touch with WR and he is still as perverted as ever. He has a special cutie in Cebu and for personal reasons has stopped posting for the moment. He promises to return "better than ever" in the future.Does "better than ever" mean he has gone beyond just putting a dog collar and leash on his tarts and fucking them in the arse as they bark at the moon? Perhaps, he now puts a saddle on their backs, inserts a bit into their mouths and then rides them around the room as he digs his spurs into their sides and makes them feel the lash of his whip!

WestCoast1
12-29-11, 07:57
Does "better than ever" mean he has gone beyond just putting a dog collar and leash on his tarts and fucking them in the arse as they bark at the moon? Perhaps, he now puts a saddle on their backs, inserts a bit into their mouths and then rides them around the room as he digs his spurs into their sides and makes them feel the lash of his whip!Givin' me a woody here!

Brymor
12-29-11, 16:50
Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.

I don't know whether my tolerance levels are very low at the moment but when they had not arrived after 30 minutes of waiting out the front of the hotel, I told them if they were not here in 5 minutes I was history. I knew that this would cause panic since they were in a taxi with no means to pay the taxi, so several further text messages folllowed pleading with me not to leave.

Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and " @%£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me!

I walked off towards the IT Park in total disgust hoping that none of the other guests had noticed that the circus was in town. Lots of text messages followed, begging for forgiveness, pleading they had no money to go home. I knew they had no money at all and no way of getting back to Mandaue so I relented ordered Erika back alone to the hotel and gave her the quickest, hardest loveless fuck she has probably had in a long time. I told her beforehand that I would only pay her 500 as punishment (I always pay 1000 for short time) for bringing her entire family and I gave her an extra 200 for the taxi. Before she left I asked her where her tribe of Neanderthals were hanging out and she told me they had gone home. That seemed strange as I knew they had no money but I did not think anymore about it. Once Erika was in the taxi and on her way I started receiving text messages from her clan asking me to tell Erika they were waiting by the IT Park.

I explained that she had already left for home, following which I must have had about 25 texts begging me for money to get home. Well to some of you mongers I may seem very harsh but I told them I had not wanted them to come to visit me, I had not asked them to come and visit me and it was not my problem (well apart from the one ugly sister that I had invited). Maybe it was cruel, I don't know what happened and how they got home, but no lasting harm came to them as Erika was on the phone this morning to me, texting her undying love for me.

Brymor
12-29-11, 17:22
Erika spent all day texting me declaring her undying love and I spent all day texting back saying I would only see her if she found a nice girl to join us for a threesome. I gave her my specifications, no older than 20, slim and cute. She told me she had many neighbours and she would bring a nice girl. I guess I should not continue to be surprised at the complete and utter stupidity of some Pinays, but guess who she turned up with at our pre arranged meeting place, Bo's Coffee inside Robinsons Mall?

Some of you may have already guessed the answer, she turned up again with her pig of a sister. To say I looked shocked on seeing them arrive is an understatement and as they sat down to join me at the table I whispered to her " you fucking stupid imbecile" to which she replied "what is an imbecile"

A very terse conversation followed with me trying to keep a cap on my boiling rage. I was just about to thrust a 20 peso note in her hand for the jeepney ride home just as she was protesting how good her sister was in bed when another Foreigner joined our table uninvited. He was an ageing unshaven American wanabee hippy, probably in his early 60s with a long grey pony tail and he interuppted our conversation and said to me " Hey my friend what scam are these two trying to pull on you?" Now I am sure he was just being helpful in his own way but he caught me at the wrong moment and I told him to mind his own %$& business and that I was a Cebu Veteran and I would take care of this myself. It was a particularly acidic response to his intervention and I did feel a bit bad afterwards but then I thought to myself, he had just made an entirely wrong assumption and interfered where he was not needed or not wanted. If you happen to be reading this I apologise, I was in a bad mood and you caught me at the wrong time. He looked a bit surprised muttered some apology and went back to join his other hippy friend at their own table.

Mr Enternational
12-29-11, 17:36
Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.

Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and "@£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me!Mort that is some funny ass shit. I can't stop laughing. But the first time it was your fault. You only said you wanted a threesome. And to leave the selection of the third person to some other party is really asking for it. Even the second time when you said "cute." Cute is different to different people. But she really was an imbecile for bringing the same person back. LOL. We are very hungry. And y'all mfs are going to stay hungry if you are waiting on Mort to feed you. A man after my own heart.

Member #4351
12-29-11, 22:34
Mortman, as a Cebu veteran you know how the Pinay family system works. I imagine that your cutie received the family psychological pile on in order to share the wealth, and there was pretty much nothing she could do about it.

Stroker Ace88
12-30-11, 01:27
Mortman, as a Cebu veteran you know how the Pinay family system works. I imagine that your cutie received the family psychological pile on in order to share the wealth, and there was pretty much nothing she could do about it.I tend to agree. Chances are the sister or other family members put on the pressure to share the wealth and she was trapped into bringing her sister a second time.

Mortman personally I can understand your reactions and I would have been thinking the same thing you said out loud, but I would have kept them to myself. There was no use explaining your wants or situation to your girl that has limited mobility from her family or didn't really understand your requirements for a threesome.

I hate to play Monday morning quarterback so to speak but here is what I would have done. When the family piled out of the taxi I would have been upset too but it's pretty common for a girl to bring family members to get a free ride. Most just want to meet you and maybe get a meal. Since you met at IT park across from Waterfront I would have greeted everyone Hello, and then given your girl 300p for her younger siblings to go eat at Jollibee while you and her sister went back to your hotel room. Since you didn't buy any food or drinks for your girl or her sister the 300p you gave to her siblings is the same price you would have spent for the three of you to eat so you break even on that deal.

I would have went back to your room and even if the sister was not good looking there are ways around that. LOL. I dunno about you but banging two sisters at once is a bonus and should be looked upon as a nice little gift to yourself. Position the one you don't like with her ass in the air so you don't have to look at her, or get her to 69 with her sister so you can bang the good looking one from behind and then take your unit out and put it into the fugly ones mouth and get her to suck her sis's juice off and then back inside the cute one. If you really didn't like the sister close the blinds and darken the room and get her to undress who knows maybe she had a good body or something would have turned you onto her. If not there is something devilishly twisted when you cum on one sister and get the other one to lap it up or play with it, but hey to each there own. (insert big smiliey grin here).

If nothing about the sister turned you on get her to hold the camera and take plenty of pics of you ramming the cute one. Nothing says have a nice day like some good sex-pix from Cebu. I would have payed the sisters 500p each and given your girl 200p for a taxi. So that's a grand total of 1500p for a threesome. That's less than a barfine on Mango and you got to bang two sisters!

Once you have taken the fugly sis for the threesome you can tell your girl you didn't like her sister and want someone new. The sister will understand and that will allow your girl to save face and the freedom to invite new girls to the mix. I think you have found a very valuable source of threesomes with this girl you just have to remain calm, play your cards right and understand the girl's situation.

Brymor
12-30-11, 02:14
StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.

Mc Don
12-30-11, 02:36
StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.I agree 100% with the above. Whats the point of shagging something you don't like even if its free?

Mortman one suggestion though, if you have time leave Erika hanging for few days. Ocationally reply to her txt but make it clear that she fucked up and she owes you big time. Then find a suitable candidate for 3some and invite her and her only telling her you have a girl in the room and if she doesn't turn up alone she is out. Once you cut the hand that feeds they quickly learn the lesson.

Hairy Wonder
12-30-11, 03:47
Without seeing Erika's sister, there is no telling how any of us would have reacted. Stroker Ace88 sounds like he took a page from my father's book. He was a cross country trucker ever since I can remember. Once while riding with him, stopped a traffic light, he let out with a wolf whistle at some fat, ugly girl in the crosswalk. When I asked him why he would do such a thing, he replied "Even fat and ugly women need some loving. And since they don't get much attention from most men, they will do a better job of trying to please you than the pretty ones will." I'm not saying he was right, but there may be some wisdom to his logic. :D

Enjoy the hunt!

HW

Frenzy3
12-30-11, 04:39
Yes some good advice there. I would have used her to hold the camera or done her ass wr style I still keep thinking that post, she might even been good sex. Still one less fucked pussy out there for us others.

Stroker Ace88
12-30-11, 06:48
StokerAce88.

Each to their own, I personally prefer to leave farmyard animals where they belong and not bring them to my hotel room. Your suggested scenario may have worked well for you and for others, but I just felt like throwing up when I read your post. Maybe you would have felt different if you had seen the girl in the flesh so to speak.Alright point taken no way to tell because I was not there and didn't see her for myself, just saying there were options available that's all. I think if she was that bad no need to jerjer her or remove her clothes but handing her a camera is a good solution. ;)

Chocha Monger
12-30-11, 10:02
First off he should be happy that he is fortunate enough to flee from whatever Western bastion of hell he calls home where most likely he ignored and marginalized.

Second he requests a threesome from Non-pro if my reading compression serves me correctly then berates the girl when she doesn't show up with his idea of what 'threesome' mate should look like. Insults towards the girl impoverished family and words like imbecile, stupid being aimed at an 18 year old Filipina who in addition to this is willing to suffer the indignity of sleeping with a man old enough to be her grandfather and probably not in good physical or as it appears mental health.

What is amusing is that he felt the need to apologize to a faceless American monger he berated and not the Filipina who he abused emotionally and physically.

For her unforgivable deeds of bringing her family along and an 'ugly threesome mate' to meet this great guy he gives her in his own words a 'hard, loveless fuck' as if she hasn't experienced enough by being in his presence.

But then we are saddened when men like this are murdered on their knees begging for their lives in AC or struck by an assassin's bullet on the streets of Manila.

With such a mean temper and abusive nature it's no wonder he has to resort to paid sex with hungry 18 yr old squatters. No Western female or middle class Filipina would tolerate his shit. Not even one his age.I never quite thought about it before but you made some good points there. Maybe a lot of mongers come to the Philippines with a lot of anger in their hearts and can be abusive at times. We can never know if their murders were related to hard loveless fucks and treating the locals like barnyard animals. The very nature of mongering would indicate that mongers are men incapable of love and hence all of their fucks are loveless. As to whether the fucks are hard or not depends on age, physical fitness, psychological state, dosage and potency of dick pills consumed to induce a standing Hampton. I suspect that most mongers cannot deliver a 'hard' fuck like local tricycle driver, Froilan, who spends most of his waking hours pedaling around town. Whatever most mongers are able to muster in performance is likely to be sheer amusement to these girls.

Anyways, you are right. We should not be shedding tears for mongers who meet their end. They all led relatively comfortable and wealthy lives in the West. They made a conscious and informed choice to come to the Third World and pursue the hobby. Crying because they got gunned down by locals makes as much sense as crying for investors who lost their shirt in the stock market. They died they way they wanted it with their mongering boots on chasing pussy on a wing without a prayer. I wonder if there is a special place where dead mongers go and what it might be like.

Options are not really something a lot of mongers have at home. Are there exceptions? Sure there are but for many they lead sexless, loveless lives at home where they maintain a false image of respectability. They may have been fleeced and cast aside by wives, cheated out of pension by corporations and marginalized by society. So, they're mad. When they deplane in the Philippines they're in a foul mood. They don't want to just fuck someone. They want to fuck someone in the ass! Best to steer clear of them especially when they're soused and looking like angry birds. The last people they're looking to compromise with or empathize with are the girls who they intend to fuck to relieve their frustrations. You have to give the girls credit for being able to do what they do for 500 pesos and come back for more.

Some guys have said they would have handled the situation differently and compromised, but they must realize they are in the minority. Others are not so patient, flexible or concerned about the personal circumstances of the girls. Individual behavior can and will vary along with the sense of fairness. Just be thankful you're not the one on the receiving end.

Buko Max
12-30-11, 10:53
And in Cebu do not try speak Tagalog
What is wrong with speaking Tagalog in Cebu? It is the national language of the Philippines.Frenzy is right in that you will be better off trying to speak the local Bisayan dialect which is also spoken in Bohol, Negros and much of Mindanao. Tagalog is taught in the schools but less then 20 percent of the vocabulary is shared. Cebuanas can understand Tagalog but most Tagalog speakers have a very difficult time understanding Bisaya. The languages are not mutually intelligible.

Brymor
12-30-11, 14:35
Guess I need a break from the Philippines, the normal stupid little everyday irritations that life in the Philippines brings and that I normally shrug off as part of the deal of being here have begun to annoy me more and more. I was in SM Mall today collecting some medication from Watsons. (I am not yet in need of monger's pharmeceutical assistance as one silly poster suggested, nor am I at the grandfather age. Well not quite). The queues extended outside the shop so that it was difficult even to get to the front of the queue to collect my numbered ticket in order to be served.

Mine was number 65 and with 21 showing on the display I took a walk thinking 20 minutes would be plenty of time. I returned to find that they had processed 10 customers during my absence and were now serving number 31. I was eventually served at around the 30 minute mark, ordered my medication and paid for it. The cashier then walked off with my money in a little basket around the back of the shop to a cashier who then processed the order. I was told to wait at another counter where my medicine would be brought. About 20 minutes later another shop assistant brought my change and my medicine.

The shop was chaotic with customers and I counted 8 members of staff in the shop, plus one who was shop side helping customers who were unable to select goods from the displays as the queues went through the entire shop.

Went to Julianas again the other night, this time it was a 50 pesos cover charge, got my wrist stamped which means you can come and go as you please if the noise gets to much and you need a break. Lots of freelancers, lots of koreans and lots of local students. I had one girl would not take no for an answer and pushed her ass into my crotch, gyrating to the sound of the beat until she made me hard. She was very disappointed when I politely declined her request to come back to my hotel. I don't often use Juliannas but so long as you have a pulse, you will always find something to pull. The highlight of my evening was watching some Pinoy wanabee 'gangstas' shaven heads and little goatee beards trying to hip hop badly on the stage.

Spent last night with Cherry the DIA girl I met when having coffee with WR the other day. She is a real delight, cute and slim and she spent the night at my hotel. We finally got to sleep at 3am in the morning. Hers is a typically sad story, her father died when she was very young, she lives in a slum area just off Escario Street in Cebu City, she has no siblings and her mother abandoned her to go and work in Kuwait and has never sent a penny to her since leaving. She makes a living the only way she knows how. I dropped her off at Ayalla this afternoon after paying her and it was great to see her eyes light up when I gave her a massive bar of Tobelerone. Just received a text from her this evening wanting to come round again. I wonder how many short time fucks she has had during the afternoon from Ayalla punters?

Member #4491
12-30-11, 16:42
Mortman, I know the feeling when all the fuses goes at once. In her world I am sure she tried, but it is so easy to get frustrated on these constant half ass attempts at everything. The up side is that this cultural trait means that this country is always f*cked, and allows old foreign men to bang young local women for material benefits.

Sure, I can see a point in FP:s and CM:s posta but I recent any attempt to victimize these girls. If an 18 year old girl is a victim, we are in a sense all victims. I rather see us all as capable and at the same time responsible to evolve as humans. Even a teenage pinay is responsible for her choices, however limited they might be.

In general I think many pinays will "bring a friend" that will not impose any risk of replacing her as the main attraction. Only the ones that are well into the P4P referral game, will bring you the gems, simply because they have a defined financial system that will rewards them both in any case. I think Frenzy3 is the expert in this area with his constant flow of petite stunners, that all seem to know each other well.

We all have different strategies in life, and mine is to always try to just forget or avoid any games of qualifying and / or hard fostering. A behavior is more efficiently modified with kindness, motivators and a smile. These are very young girls in a country of despair. No need for an adult man to profile oneself against what we consider to be the girls lack of judgement. Easy to say, but I also have the greatest respect for how hard it is to keep smiling and maintain self control when disappointed, after building up expectations and solid blue balls. Some years ago I waited three hours for the blow job expert Candy to bring in her "slim teenage friend with huge tits", only to meet a middle aged cow that probably did the Asian tour for a decade before landing in the P4P backwaters of Davao. I did not smile when I walked away. But evolution means setting up standards that we work towards.

Barba's strategy to keep this asset on the list would be simple and honest;

"Erica, I did not find your sister attractive so I will find a girl myself, and then I will text you for the threesome. I will pay you 1000 peso after we had the threesome. Please confirm if this sounds like a good plan for you. Please feel free to share the Facebook page of any friend you might find that are willing to see me in private or participate in the threesome. I am looking forward to see you soon."

Simple marketing build up of the message:

Introduction.

Positive information (1000 PHP awaiting her)

Negative information (sharing Mortman to possible competitors that might be prettier than her and her sister)

Positive information ("I care for your company and you have future incomes to collect")

All the best from Barba.

HNY

Hairy Wonder
12-30-11, 21:54
Frenzy is right in that you will be better off trying to speak the local Bisayan dialect which is also spoken in Bohol, Negros and much of Mindanao. Tagalog is taught in the schools but less then 20 percent of the vocabulary is shared. Cebuanas can understand Tagalog but most Tagalog speakers have a very difficult time understanding Bisaya. The languages are not mutually intelligible.I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog. I know that most of the Manila natives would not understand any of the other dialects from various areas of the Philippines. I dated, and almost made the fatal mistake of marrying a girl that came from Bislig. She could speak Tagalog, Bisayan, some Muslim dialect, English and Korean. She was a very smart Filipina. Unfortunately, it is much easier to find study material for learning Tagalog than it is for Bisayan or any other dialect. If a monger has the time and interest to study all the dialects of the Philippines, good for him. If he manages to learn only Tagalog, he should be able to at least get around. He may not understand everything being said around him, but I bet most mongers don't know any language of the localities they visit. There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.

HW

Frenzy3
12-31-11, 01:38
I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog. I know that most of the Manila natives would not understand any of the other dialects from various areas of the Philippines. I dated, and almost made the fatal mistake of marrying a girl that came from Bislig. She could speak Tagalog, Bisayan, some Muslim dialect, English and Korean. She was a very smart Filipina. Unfortunately, it is much easier to find study material for learning Tagalog than it is for Bisayan or any other dialect. If a monger has the time and interest to study all the dialects of the Philippines, good for him. If he manages to learn only Tagalog, he should be able to at least get around. He may not understand everything being said around him, but I bet most mongers don't know any language of the localities they visit. There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.

HWFirst they speak English more than tagalog. Second it is a insult to them as they speak cubano at home in shops and government agencies it shows you are ignorant. Third some Tagalog word are cubano words with different meanings.

That last point is one that also will get you no respect learn the culture here even bar girls are still human. The only reason PI is a good monger spot is the peso is devalued they still have a society here one that makes the family first. We are also lucky that it is a mans world here with laws that do not protect women but still there are laws against prostitution.

Try spending time learning about the place. I find guys who do not end up hating the place, as they just see it for a place to get sex and dislike every thing else.

For me I love the cubano people the sex is just a bonus.

Stroker Ace88
12-31-11, 02:35
I did not say that it was a bad thing to learn to speak the local Bisayan dialect while in Cebu. I was simply disputing Frenzy's comment that you should not even "try to speak Tagalog" in Cebu. I agree that it would be better to speak Bisayan, but it should be no problem to speak Tagalog.

There's not much need for speaking when fucking is the main purpose of your visit.Frenzy is correct when he posted it's bad to speak Tagalog in Cebu. Seems there has been a subtle but very real shift in perception about foreign men visiting the Philippines for sex. When you bust out the 'Taglish' chances are you will raise red flags from alot of the women in Cebu.

This subtle shift has happened within the 12 months and makes getting close and gaining the trust of the hottest of the hot girls in Cebu more difficult than in the past. The average girls might find it 'cute' that you know some Tagalog or not really care at all, but the ramp model ones spend alot more time checking and analyzing who the guy is and what his intentions are.

The word is out on foreigners in Cebu and I hear many stories from girls. How a foreigner came to meet a girl they know be it a classmate, family member or neighbor and he promosed marriage to the girl and her family. He spends a week banging the girl and then walks away or sends the girl home and on to the next girl. Now she is ashamed and embarassed and doesn't know what to tell her family and her family is boiling mad with all the bola2.

So my advice to anyone meeting a girl is to keep the Tagalog to yourself, never mention you have visited Thailand and be straight with the girls about your intentions and do not promise marriage to get into her panties.

Bargirls, semi-pros or P4P will laugh at the Bisaya or Tagalog words you mix up so no need to hide it from them.

Brymor
12-31-11, 04:06
So my advice to anyone meeting a girl is to keep the Tagalog to yourself, never mention you have visited Thailand and be straight with the girls about your intentions and do not promise marriage to get into her panties.SA88 this is very good advice. I have been questioned twice in the last year by prospective gfs if I have ever visited Thailand. Despite their limited knowledge of geography and the world in general, Thailand now has a similar reputation in the Philippines to the one it has acquired in the Western hemisphere, as a sex tourist destination. It is kind of ironic since most of us are here in the Philippines for the same thing we seek in Thailand.

Of course I lied convincingly to the girl and told her I had never set foot in the country. She was one of the best fucks I ever had!

Jambo
12-31-11, 15:35
Ah Jezuz Fucking CHRIST are we going to start this shit AGAIN!

Most Humble suggestion: 1 post per day per BM, ONE (1) response per perceived insult.

I am going to have ta ignore bm's left and right to get to any useful reporting.

Lopkx
01-01-12, 01:37
For Mongers wanting to come to Phil for a 10 day trip, then the loop of Manila. Cebu. AC. Manila is a good round trip.

Cebu Pacific or Philippine Airlines from Manila to Cebu (1 hour). Cebu Pacific from Cebu to Clark (Angeles City airport) and then road from AC to Manila is a good round trip.If you going Cebu Pacific pay attention to there baggage fees or you might be in for a big surprise, speaking from experience. Everything on that airline is an add-on even choosing a seat prior to flight. Also if your plane breaks down in Cebu they most likely don't have the parts because they are located in Manila. That is what happen to me on a flight leaving Cebu, lucky I was able to get on another flight but almost missed my international connection in Manila.

Punter 127
01-01-12, 07:59
Yesterday afternoon I arranged to meet Erica the 18 year old girl from Robinsons again, this time at my hotel the Waterfront. I told her I was interested in a threesome and she told me she had an older sister aged 19 who would be willing to join us, so I agreed to meet the both of them. We arranged to meet early in the afternoon and late morning we exchanged the customary 100 million text messages before the meeting. I received the usual message "we are very hungry" as they were travelling in the taxi to the hotel and I resigned myself to the cost of a Jollibees once they arrived.I personally don't see "we are very hungry" as the norm, it should be a red flag, especially the 'we' part.


I don't know whether my tolerance levels are very low at the moment but when they had not arrived after 30 minutes of waiting out the front of the hotel, I told them if they were not here in 5 minutes I was history. I knew that this would cause panic since they were in a taxi with no means to pay the taxi, so several further text messages folllowed pleading with me not to leave.I have the same tolerance level problem, after a while the Philippines can get you down that's why every 59 days at the end of my first extension I go to Thailand or someplace for a vacation. You have to spend time here to really understand this.

Here's a little tip that has worked out pretty good for me, always tell a Pinay to meet you 30 minutes earlier than you really want her to meet you. If she shows up on time and text asking where you are just text her back 'wait me' she will understand, also this should be a green flag that you have probably found a good Pinay.


Anyway after about a further 7-8 minutes a taxi pulls up and I recognise Erika in the front seat. However what unfolded next was a truly horrifying experience, as what looked like a family of slum dwellers emerged from the back seat of the taxi, four siblings ranging from the age of 13 to 19. The nineteen year old was introduced to me. Short, covered in acne, wearing the standard slum dwellers outfit of baggy shorts and basketball shirt and totally ugly. The rest of the tribe looked like they needed a good bath and delousing. My first words to Erika was "what the * is going on" and she just looked forlornly at me. I was so angry at these uninvited guests that my usual tact and diplomacy evaporated and I told her Erika to take her tribe of unwashed and " @%£ * the hell out of here". I also told her that her sister resembled a pig and no way would I have sex with her, even if she paid me!What they looked like is exactly what they are. As someone else pointed out she had a lot of pressure from her sibling to share the wealth. You would have been better served to leave the pig remark out, but I understand your frustration. Remember family loyalty is a very big thing here and she felt obligated to help her sister make some money.

The extra people could have been avoided by not putting her in a taxi to begin with. You could have told her to use the same method of transportation that she used to get to the mall, probably Jeepney.

I only pay for taxis when there is no other choice. If a non bar girl insist on a taxi it should be a big red flag, she is a full blown working girl and probably not going to be a GFI. I have a friend who says only two kinds of people use taxis in Cebu, foreigners and hookers, if she insist on a taxi ask her which she is and then move on.

If you are just in a hurry for her to arrive then have her take a motorcycle taxis, or 'Habal-Habal' as they are called, it's cheaper (depending on distance) and faster than a regular taxi, but more expensive than a Jeepney.


I walked off towards the IT Park in total disgust hoping that none of the other guests had noticed that the circus was in town. Lots of text messages followed, begging for forgiveness, pleading they had no money to go home. I knew they had no money at all and no way of getting back to Mandaue so I relented ordered Erika back alone to the hotel and gave her the quickest, hardest loveless fuck she has probably had in a long time. I told her beforehand that I would only pay her 500 as punishment (I always pay 1000 for short time) for bringing her entire family and I gave her an extra 200 for the taxi. Before she left I asked her where her tribe of Neanderthals were hanging out and she told me they had gone home. That seemed strange as I knew they had no money but I did not think anymore about it. Once Erika was in the taxi and on her way I started receiving text messages from her clan asking me to tell Erika they were waiting by the IT Park.She was probably thinking wow please punish me some more. If you are paying anyone other than bar girls more than 500p you are over paying IMHO.


I explained that she had already left for home, following which I must have had about 25 texts begging me for money to get home. Well to some of you mongers I may seem very harsh but I told them I had not wanted them to come to visit me, I had not asked them to come and visit me and it was not my problem (well apart from the one ugly sister that I had invited). Maybe it was cruel, I don't know what happened and how they got home, but no lasting harm came to them as Erika was on the phone this morning to me, texting her undying love for me.I don't think you were 'harsh' by our standards, but remember you must be very simplistic here, even then they seem to hear only what they want to hear. In this case I suspect she was with them when they were texting you begging for money.

I doubt they used that 200p for taxi, most likely they met up and jumped on a 7p Jeepney, for a grand total of 28p or 56p if it was 'two rides' as they say.

One other thing is the age, if a Pinay says she is 18 she may very well only be 17, even girls that are 25 refer to themselves as 26, I think it must be an Asian thing, they seem to think they are one at birth. So I strongly suggest you trust but verify.

This post is intended to be helpful in nature and should not be viewed as being derogatory to Mortman in any way, shape, or form. Judging from his post Mortman and I think a lot alike, and I've made a lot of the same mistakes. Mortman thank you for sharing your experience with us.

GoodEnough
01-02-12, 10:58
Your saying works both ways. If he's getting fucked over maybe he paying to little.

Still amazes me guys spend thousands on air and hotel to come here then complain about $2Amen Frenzy. It's a great mystery to me as well. For those of us who live here, the possibility of getting scammed is one of the life's minor inconveniences. As I've said before, if you allow this stuff to get to you, you're going to wind up angry for most of the time you spend here. Unless one is somewhat masochistic, then I can't understand the motivation for seeking a state of permanent anger. I've met guys who build themselves into states of towering fury over getting ripped off for less than a dollar. Life is ineed a mystery.

GE

Stroker Ace88
01-03-12, 03:39
There is a great divide in the breath and knowledge or lack-there-of when it comes to the Philippines, and therein lies the real crux of the issue. There are several categories of guys on the Philippine board.

-Lurker who has never visited.

-Someone who plans to visit one day (maybe just a fantasy)

-Someone who spent a few days in the Philippines some years ago.

-Someone who spent a week total in the Philippines.

-Someone who spends a week a year in the Philippines.

-Someone who visits a few times a year but does not stay long.

-Someone who spends 200+ days a year in the Philippines.

-Those who live in the Philippines.

Philippine society is more like an onion. It has many layers each one digging deeper and deeper into the fabric and culture. On the surface things seem simplistic and relatively straight forward. The real problem begins when a question of culture, etiquette or ethics (western or Filipino) comes up on the board. Guys in the last two categories spend great amounts of time and effort trying to explain to the rest of the board the real reasons and motivations behind certain local actions and reactions, with little success. It's not a question of IQ or observation that's lacking, but of experience and understanding. The more time someone spends in the Philippines the more one learns.

The recent 'hot button' topics that have been labeled by some as outright scams are a perfect example of issues that go deeper. Some of these incidents are scams only on the surface but to the guys in the last two categories it's a cultural issue. No amount of explaining will convince some otherwise. Many senior members have in the past thrown up there hands in frustration and stopped posting for that very reason.

Red Kilt
01-03-12, 04:05
. SNIP.

Philippine society is more like an onion. It has many layers each one digging deeper and deeper into the fabric and culture. On the surface things seem simplistic and relatively straight forward. The real problem begins when a question of culture, etiquette or ethics (western or Filipino) comes up on the board. Guys in the last two categories spend great amounts of time and effort trying to explain to the rest of the board the real reasons and motivations behind certain local actions and reactions, with little success. It's not a question of IQ or observation that's lacking, but of experience and understanding. The more time someone spends in the Philippines the more one learns.

The recent 'hot button' topics that have been labeled by some as outright scams are a perfect example of issues that go deeper. Some of these incidents are scams only on the surface but to the guys in the last two categories it's a cultural issue. No amount of explaining will convince some otherwise. Many senior members have in the past thrown up there hands in frustration and stopped posting for that very reason.Excellent analysis Stroker.

Count me in as one of the senior members who lives (and works) here and who has thrown up my hands in frustration at some of the classically erroneous information posted here based on a few days in town. The metaphor of the Philippines as an onion with lots of layers is so true.

National Book Store has a whole shelf devoted to understanding Filipino cultures, norms, folk lores, business practices etc, and I often give one of these books to any visiting foreign staff to read before they launch themselves into dealing with Filipino colleagues.

Some titles picked at random from my own personal bookshelf:

- Working with Filipinos: a cross-cultural encounter (Author: F. Landa Jocano)

- Understanding Filipino Values: a Management Approach (Author: Tomas D Andres)

- Understanding (Ilocano, Visayan, Tagalog) Values. 3 books all written by Tomas D. Andres.

For guys who genuinely want to understand what is going on around them, I suggest you indulge yourself in some self-education. Such a ploy helped me considerably to assimilate into the local environment, and to understand just what was going on in some of these b/gs, DIA profiles and FLs minds.

For the 2 week "slash and burn" monger, no need to worry about it. Just carry on full tilt, wreak havoc, and leave without a backward glance, but please don't complain on forums like ISG about how things are so very different here when you don't try to analyse why.

WestCoast1
01-03-12, 07:58
- Working with Filipinos: a cross-cultural encounter (Author: F. Landa Jocano)

- Understanding Filipino Values: a Management Approach (Author: Tomas D Andres)

- Understanding (Ilocano, Visayan, Tagalog) Values. 3 books all written by Tomas D. Andres.Nice. On one of the other boards a few years ago, some guy posted a link to some cultural anthropology. Some european sociologists went to Philippines and lived with several tribes in the 1920's, and another group went in the 1950's. The group from the 1920's lived with a kampapangan community for about one year, then moved north and lived with a tribe east of the baguio mountain area, then went to the farthest north tip of Luzon and lived with a tribe there for a year. In their writing (some journal) , which was extensive, they described dating, marriage, divorce / separation, food gathering (farming and trading for fish) , parties, social activities, and war-making (which was not uncommon with neighboring tribes). Interestingly, they describe many of the current filipine cultural oddities that we see today:

* filipinos in all tribes like to leave decision-making up to anyone other than themselves (bahala ka. Its up to you. I can't decide, so you decide). Fortunately there was always one person or a group that would make important decisions, even if the europeans thought those decisions were terrible.

* filipinos in all tribes like to bring gifts to others, and receive gifts when others visit them (pasalubong)

* filipinos often begged repeatedly for gifts / money from any stranger passing through the village. This asking of money from the europeans was constant in every community they lived in, during their entire stay (up to one year) with the villagers. Tribal leaders would routinely ask the europeans to go to the nearest town and buy things for the tribe. While the tribe had enough resources to trade for what they wanted, the tribe attempted to get the sociologists to pay for what they wanted. Does this not sound like the many, many men who visit with their pinay's family, only to be dragged to a restaurant and made to pay for the family's meal? Or he is dragged to the mall?

* tribal filipinos have trouble saying "I don't know" when they don't know an answer. They will make up any answer before saying "I don't know."

There were several journal articles, and they were long. Very interesting reading. One tribe had interesting pre-marital customs for the young couple to be married (it all sounded like teenage drama, but for the whole tribe to watch and enjoy). Some of the things reported have disappeared as the culture advances into westernization.

GoodEnough
01-03-12, 12:06
I've known RK for quite a while now, and he's a seriously smart guy and a student of human (Pinoy-human) nature, so he does understand the mores, the habits and motivations inhering in local culture much better than most, and we've spent some pleasant hours together discussing the aforementioned. While I find it generally true, that the longer you stay here, particularly if you work with Filipinos, the more you understand, it's equally true that there are some aspects of the culture that I've given up even trying to understand. I've concluded that either my understanding is purely superficial or that there's no set of unifying principles to the place at all.

The reluctance, for example to engage in critical thought, to analyze personal situations, to plan for the longer range in a way that doesn't resemble wish fulfillment are all traits that I've rarely (perhaps never) observed here, even among seriously smart Filipinos. The absence of a true literary corpus, of a national musical heritage, the absence of widespread indigenous theater and the lack of poetry are lacunae that I don't think I've ever observed elsewhere. Nor can I understand the fatalism-the "other-directedness"-that seems to pervade the culture. And there's nothing in my training, my experience or my reading that has helped me to understand.

I was with a French friend who lives here, a few nights ago, and we were discussing French poetry, and then the more general subject of poetry. All of a sudden he said something like: "You know, I could never have this conversation with a Filipino. Filipinos do not 'get' poetry." And he went on to say that even his wife, who spent a decade with him in France, has any grasp of what poetry is, and why he "needs" expat friends with whom he can share his traditional cultural milieu. I feel the same. I could never survive here in a Filipino bubble, no matter how well educated, kind and well meaning my friends were. The bottom line for me, is that there's little or no intellectual engagement here, and precious little in the way of abstract thought.

The most startling characteristic of the onion is that it has no core. Just a series of layers that, once removed, reveal nothing at all. Perhaps then, the analogy of this country to the onion is more apt than I realized, because I think the same may be true of the Philippines.

GE.

GE

Snow Koala
01-03-12, 15:10
GE,

At the risk of soundling like a snob, I quite agree that intellectually I am not challenged here. I have been working in Philippines for 1. 5 years for a foreign company in a highly specialist technical area. Although I work with some very smart Filipinos with international working experience who I enjoy working with, I find I crave the conference calls with the head office just to engage in intellectually challenging conversation. The concepts of "what if", risk analysis and scenario based planning, I have simply given up on the attempts at conversation.

For me this converstaion came up when thinking longer term about retiring here in Philippines. After recently travelling around Philippines and talking to a few early retirees, I realised my brain would go to mush which I don't think I am ready for that.

Snow.


I've known RK for quite a while now, and he's a seriously smart guy and a student of human (Pinoy-human) nature, so he does understand the mores, the habits and motivations inhering in local culture much better than most, and we've spent some pleasant hours together discussing the aforementioned. While I find it generally true, that the longer you stay here, particularly if you work with Filipinos, the more you understand, it's equally true that there are some aspects of the culture that I've given up even trying to understand. I've concluded that either my understanding is purely superficial or that there's no set of unifying principles to the place at all.

The reluctance, for example to engage in critical thought, to analyze personal situations, to plan for the longer range in a way that doesn't resemble wish fulfillment are all traits that I've rarely (perhaps never) observed here, even among seriously smart Filipinos. The absence of a true literary corpus, of a national musical heritage, the absence of widespread indigenous theater and the lack of poetry are lacunae that I don't think I've ever observed elsewhere. Nor can I understand the fatalism-the "other-directedness"-that seems to pervade the culture. And there's nothing in my training, my experience or my reading that has helped me to understand.

I was with a French friend who lives here, a few nights ago, and we were discussing French poetry, and then the more general subject of poetry. All of a sudden he said something like: "You know, I could never have this conversation with a Filipino. Filipinos do not 'get' poetry." And he went on to say that even his wife, who spent a decade with him in France, has any grasp of what poetry is, and why he "needs" expat friends with whom he can share his traditional cultural milieu. I feel the same. I could never survive here in a Filipino bubble, no matter how well educated, kind and well meaning my friends were. The bottom line for me, is that there's little or no intellectual engagement here, and precious little in the way of abstract thought.

The most startling characteristic of the onion is that it has no core. Just a series of layers that, once removed, reveal nothing at all. Perhaps then, the analogy of this country to the onion is more apt than I realized, because I think the same may be true of the Philippines.

GE.

GE

GoodEnough
01-03-12, 15:43
Snow Koala, I would argue that, having come to that realization, you're in a good position to retire, since you have rocognized that you will continue to need protracted, regular contact with foreigners who share similar intellectual interests. It's that perception, or should I say acting on that perception that enables me to survive and thrive here. The fact is that you can find a circle of similarly-minded friends, and once you've done that, you can preserve your brain, your sanity, and your sexual appetite. It's recognizing the limitations of the country, and figuring out how to live well within them, that enables RK, several others whom I know well and me to survive quite well and to enjoy our lives here. It depends on where you live and, to a certain extent on what you do with your time.

GE

Frenzy3
01-03-12, 15:55
ge rk and others who move here do not stop trying to peel the onion. pi is made up of so many different people enjoy it. i have 4 gf who live with me and the differences in experiance and iq is so varied. the highest iq is also the best looker and the one i spend more time with her and her family. the next girl is the dumbest and who's family is in and out of jail she use to work in the bars she started work when she was 14 knows the life of hard knocks. the next is the farmers daughter. the last is the cousin of one of my longest serving employees she got into it as she saw how much i pay. tell me where else you get such a mix.

point is it is a rich life of many experience and never dull. sure i have time to read forums, books and also work. most of the time expats have to drag me away from my life here.

Gangles
01-03-12, 16:22
I have used the onion analogy for a long time to explain culture.

But I start from the inside. The core of the onion is basic animal behaviour, survival, procreation.

The first time that I was in PNG, a long time ago, most of the people behaved this way.

Over time, and helped by outside influence, layers of the onion are added by society. Each layer increasingly inhibits basic animal behaviour, and inhibits our actions. As time goes by, society adds more layers, more regulations, more rules, more inhibitions.

Obviously some societies have many more layers than others.

So from my perspective, the behaviours that I observe in most filipinos are those of the hunter-gatherer culture. And there are far less layers that on those from western culture, particularly countries of British origins, who have been trapped by the Victorian ethic regarding sexuality and sexual behaviour.

The predilection of young pinays to hav children reflects an onion with many fewer layers, much closer to the core behaviours of procreation and survival.

Similarly, mating rituals in the Philippines are both less complex and more complex than those of western countries, particularly of those countries infused with the Victorian ethic.

I can talk about this stuff for a long time, because I have had a particular interest in cultures for a long time.

G

Aussie Jo
01-03-12, 16:43
Hi Guys,

Just thought I'd put a shout out to all of the mongers I see wandering around Ayala each day. Hope you are enjoying the pickings. It is hard to walk through the centre of the Terraces without being asked by a young one if I am looking for a lady, or do I have the time etc. Initially when I strolled through looking fo rclassic hookers I was looking for high heled short skirt hotties. The talent on offer is so much more subtle.

I stopped off at TGI Fridays expecting to chat to one of the ladies wandering bye or to see if I was approached there. Ending up chatting to a drunk young lady and the rest is history. So far, three freebies in three nights. It really is a wonderful country.

Will update if I venture into the P4P scene.

AJ.

Member #4351
01-03-12, 23:42
three freebies in three nights.When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.

Mr Enternational
01-04-12, 00:13
When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.If I ask them if they want money or am I supposed to give them money what will they say? Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?

Mc Don
01-04-12, 00:51
Most girls will ask for money at some point. If she doesn't ask I would still give her something but at the end of the day I think sometimes we are too nice to DIA's or mall pick ups. I realise that they are poor and all that and help will be appreciated but there is the argument that we are getting them use to money and in some ways we are pushing them to prostitution. Long time ago I brought a regular girl that worked in the department store in SM to LAC in malate. My next trip I found her in LAC, she ditched her job to because she figured she would make more money in LAC.

Member #4351
01-04-12, 01:51
Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?If she has a well paying job and a car. Maybe someone like the real estate executive kicked out of a forum member's room at the Radisson.

But I think that not giving a girl who lives in abject poverty 500 or 1000 pesos after she has made you happy is not something to be proud of. I don't think that this amount of money will be spoiling thechica, it will probably be spent on a bag of rice for the family.

Aussie Jo
01-04-12, 05:12
Aussie Jo,

I'm looking forward to your report.

By the terraces are you referring to the open area, with the steps and the fountains?

I'll be in Cebu this May.Yes. I am amazed at how many western single men frequent the area. I'll generalise and say that most of us are juggling various txt messages and looking at hotties. The lift at the hotel is busy with punters taking their catches to the rooms. I'm not sure if I should wink at them in the lift or what. I'm working during the day and like to give the guys support keeping the game up during the day light hours.

Aj

Robbaf
01-04-12, 11:53
If I ask them if they want money or am I supposed to give them money what will they say? Is there any case or situation when a girl would be a freebie?It is very easy. Slide a 1000P in her pocket and say this is for your taxi, cell load.

Robb

Robbaf
01-04-12, 11:56
When I read this kind of comment I cringe. The girls won't lower themselves to ask for money. If one would RTFF they might learn a little about the Philippine girl mindset.I agree. It amazes me when I read so many reports of girls scamming on DIA, but I think a lot of guys who use the site scam the girls just as much. If they lived here and seen the true local living conditions of these girls maybe they would have more compassion.

Robb

Snow Koala
01-04-12, 12:26
GE,

I think you have hit the nail on the head. I have been here in Makati for 1. 5 years but I was posted here because the Philippine office of our company was a basketcase. Now the customers are happy, the staff are happy and the business is profitable again, however, the cost is that I have worked extremely long hours during this time. This means I have work, mongering, some dive drips around Phil and sleep and not a lot else. Ex-pat consultants come from head office to visit once per month and I know a couple of local expats but I have not had time to spend time with them. Since the business is now doing well I have a 2012 objective to get a better balance.

To use your words, I survive here but I don't thrive here.

I need to get some out of work things to do preferrably with ex-pats. I have been working as an ex-pat for 13 years now around the world in 8 countries and generally I can get on-top of the job within 3-6 months but not here.

Snow.


Snow Koala, I would argue that, having come to that realization, you're in a good position to retire, since you have rocognized that you will continue to need protracted, regular contact with foreigners who share similar intellectual interests. It's that perception, or should I say acting on that perception that enables me to survive and thrive here. The fact is that you can find a circle of similarly-minded friends, and once you've done that, you can preserve your brain, your sanity, and your sexual appetite. It's recognizing the limitations of the country, and figuring out how to live well within them, that enables RK, several others whom I know well and me to survive quite well and to enjoy our lives here. It depends on where you live and, to a certain extent on what you do with your time.

GE

Sammon
01-04-12, 17:40
Most girls will ask for money at some point. If she doesn't ask I would still give her something but at the end of the day I think sometimes we are too nice to DIA's or mall pick ups. I realise that they are poor and all that and help will be appreciated but there is the argument that we are getting them use to money and in some ways we are pushing them to prostitution. Long time ago I brought a regular girl that worked in the department store in SM to LAC in malate. My next trip I found her in LAC, she ditched her job to because she figured she would make more money in LAC.Same thing happened to me. Once I needed to replace my watch battery. Went to Robinson and found a booth. The good looking girl working there told me to leave the watch and asked for my phone number so that she will call me when it is ready. Philippinos are just lazy to do the job right away which only takes few minutes. Anyway she did call me in about an hour and told me to come and pick up the watch. I went paid and got the watch back.

Later in the evening she sent me a text asking me if the watch is working ok? We continued chatting and I invited her for dinner after she got off at 7PM. We had dinner and parted. There was no discussion about coming to my hotel. I did not want to push it because I wanted the offer to come from her. She texted me again next evening telling me she is free for the evening. I asked her to come to my room. Anyway it was fun. Later we went to dinner and she wanted to go to a disco. Since I did not know any other dancing place except LA cafe, I took her there and went upstairs. We danced, drank and she was impressed by the set up. She was probably impressed by the number of foreigners there. During the time we spent there she did talk to some girls in tagalog. We did meet few more times but spent most of the time in the room enjoying each other.

After a few months I went back to LA cafe and there she was dressed up. She told me that she got laid off from her job etc and that is why she went to LA cafe to look for a foreigner BF. I wished her luck.

I did not see her after that in LA cafe. Maybe she got a sponsor.

X Man
01-05-12, 04:28
I had a 21 yr old gal from Tagged for a few hours. She served me well and also allowed some great pictures. I gave her 700 and she seemed genuinely surprised. In a good way. I'm not sure if she was getting less from others or was a newbie at the game. She's been wanting another meeting every since. X.


If she has a well paying job and a car. Maybe someone like the real estate executive kicked out of a forum member's room at the Radisson.

But I think that not giving a girl who lives in abject poverty 500 or 1000 pesos after she has made you happy is not something to be proud of. I don't think that this amount of money will be spoiling thechica, it will probably be spent on a bag of rice for the family.

ParnellCat
01-05-12, 13:56
Recently pre Christmas in Manila for work so threw in a few days in Cebu for good measure.

Arrived International airport and after reading the motivational platitudes at the airport toilet, walked over to domestic.

Personally I think they should change the toilet slogans to something like 'Foreigners, Please leave your expectations here at the airport and collect on departure. Obviously with the exception of girls and beaches. '

If you follow that simple advice possible problems and annoyances in the Philippines will be significantly reduced.

I write this because I've seen an increase in meltdowns, people losing it over small things.

The most classic was an American guy screaming in a restaurant, 'it's called Fish and Chips! They're supposed to come together! Now this guy was screaming at a tiny little waitress and almost physically threatening her because his chips came a bit after the fish.

Anyhow, just an observation.

Back to the trip. I arrived and walked over to the domestic terminal. Immediately spotted extremely beautiful girl sitting by Davao flight, but she was hemmed in by other passengers.

Waist length hair, mid 20's. Great body wrapped in tight blue jeans, light white top.

Made mental note to visit Davao.

Noticed several other guys checking her out.

However when the Davao flight was called she got up and moved to the crowd waiting for the Cebu flight.

Unfortunately she was still blocked by other passengers.

But then the usual PA announcement, 'sorry due to blah blah the flight to Cebu has been delayed'.

Picked up bags and literally squeezed my way through people, over people until I managed to make it next to the stunner and said something genius, like. 'Is the Flight delayed? '

And that was it. Turned out she works in a call centre and she was her way to Cebu for a wedding.

A new world record for me as I'the only been in the country 15 minutes.

Maybe the result of the motivational statement on the toilet wall so possibly I should refute earlier statement.

The flight was delayed for an hour but it seemed like 10 seconds as we were getting along great.

She apologised for not being able to catch up in Cebu as she was just there for one night. But when I'm back in Manila to call.

Made mental note, return to Manila early.

After a bumpy flight arrived in Cebu to find a very long queue at the top of the part by the casino. Only one taxi there and maybe 60 people. Heavy rain.

So kept on going to the very first drop off point and walked directly to the first taxi dropping people off. He pointed at the huge queue and the parking guard guy, so offered him 500 pesos to take me to the Marriott.

Sure no problem.

The Filipino lady getting out of the taxi said in a big loud voice, 'Yes Sir thats how the Philippines works! '

Had a few DIA girls numbers generated all in about 48 hours so sent out the messages.

First girl replied, 'great but can I bring a friend. '

One of my best ever Cebu girls wasn't the DIA girl but the friend so I replied, Sure.

Next day, wandered over to Ayalla, the colliseum of Cebu, and totally suprised to get a text from the girl saying we're here. On time. Shock. Horror.

Agreed to meet outside Figaro but couldn't see 2 girls, just some guy from behind and a girl.

Walked over when I realised it was the girl, and she said, 'Hi this is my Dad. '

Got to say this was a first for me.

Lesson learn't, always ensure the friend is a girl.

But she was cute so took them inside and let them loose on the menu. Nearly always they choose the biggest chocolate type cake / cheesecake.

Got talking. Dad turned out to be a truly good guy. He didn't have a job, but made wooden boats to sell. For each boat he received about 70 pesos and he could at best make 2 to 3 boats a day.

I'the just spent 900 pesos on cheesecake / coffees etc.

I then asked about the family and his reply was he had 3 daughters until he got lucky and had a son.

He said this in front of the daughter, who just accepted it as this is how things are.

He was quite up front about wanting to marry his daughters off to foreigners and asked if I was looking to marry.

Had to reply unfortunately not, but he still suggested I should get to know his daughter, take her out a few times.

In all this time the girl had said about 3 words so decided against it.

Met a couple of other DIA girls, one a total mall hustler, another quite nice but not really me.

DIA is hit and miss. It's great if you've got time but if you're just in Cebu a few days its probably not the most productive use of time.

The mall hustler girls have got DIA figured. Someone should catalogue the categories or actually colour code the girls.

From the hard call mall pro who uses the mall daily as her office, maybe whacking several guys a day, through to irregular mall girl who just uses it occasionally to meet guys for bill payments then my favourite category the girl who doesn't know she's a 'mall girl' and just needs a bit of charm.

Did get lucky with a last category of mall girl who pimped her friend, who was both hot and fun and for me finding girls that are fun to be with is key to it.

Anyhow back to Manila and texted the beauty from the airport.

After a couple of false starts we organised to go out to dinner at Greenbelt and I had her get a taxi to the Shangri La.

Another hotel that seems to get worse each time I stay there almost degrading before my eyes.

Oops remember airport slogan.

She arrives wearing a tight red dress and looking as good as first appearance.

During dinner learn't about the life of call centre workers, working usually all night, an upside down life. She was selling insurance or something in America and I thought about some guy in a small American town getting a call from this girl and having no idea that she looked like a fantasy girl from a magazine.

The call centre people often date each other but in her words she didn't work with anyone worth dating.

She had very pale skin which doesn't make any difference to me but to Filipinos this made her look Hi.so and she said some Filipinos assumed she was a snob or were too scared to approach her because of this.

She said, most men stared at her, but few if any approached. I was the first foreigner to ever try.

We drank quite a lot of wine then basically long story short, had 3 days of non stop sex.

Reminded me of why Filipino girls are great, that hint of Latin giving them a real true sex drive, unequalled, I believe in Asia.

She really was great, with one handicap, she kept saying 'I think I've found the one. '

She's a great girl and would make someone a great wife.

I'll keep in touch with her.

Even though I've told her I'll never be the one.

At no time did she ask for money, need me to buy her a phone, or similar.

But I did leave her with a sizeable donation given as taxi money when she left.

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them.

Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.

Stroker Ace88
01-05-12, 23:44
Recently pre Christmas in Manila for work so threw in a few days in Cebu for good measure. Arrived International airport and after reading the motivational platitudes at the airport toilet, walked over to domestic. Personally I think they should change the toilet slogans to something like 'Foreigners, Please leave your expectations here at the airport and collect on departure. Obviously with the exception of girls and beaches. If you follow that simple advice possible problems and annoyances in the Philippines will be significantly reduced. [SNIP]

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them. Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.Nice report but did you post it from an IPhone or Ipad? Horribly spaced and takes up half a page. Even worse some members who will quote your post will be too lazy to use a simple cut and paste or backspace technology to edit and [SNIP]. But I digress.

When I read your post the first time I thought you had landed in Cebu since this is the Cebu thread. You never specified what city or airport you landed at. I was confused when you mentioned you were in Manila already 'pre-Christmas' and then you arrived International airport? When you posted you saw a girl waiting in the domestic terminal for a flight you lost me. I thought you had arrived in Cebu on an International flight and then walked over to the domestic arrivals since that's where the taxi line is located. Only after reading further did I figure out what the heck you just posted.

OK so when arriving at NAIA there are two airport washrooms, both located on either end of the customs and baggage claim level under the stairs on opposite sides of the terminal. I do not remember ever seeing any 'motivational platitudes' as you call it posted there. Maybe I missed something or maybe it was recently installed. What exactly does this sign say? Curious.

Cebu is not a city where the sex scene is in your face or on display 24-7. It's much more subtle at times and is more known for providing good online dating GFE company. You mentioned you made a handful of DIA contacts before your visit. Seems you never fully explored or put in the time necessary to come up with quality girls to meet. You must be willing to pick up alot of rocks before you can hold a true diamond in your hands.

I think your experience in other SEA Countries served you well when you visited the Philippines. You stayed calm and you went with the flow. No need to get upset about fish and chips unless the five second rule was is in play LOL. You approached the girl in NAIA and things worked out for you. However I would advise caution. It's best to wait and watch who she is with to make sure she is really available. I watched many a foreigner say Hi to a girl when her husband or BF was nearby and that can cause a few moments of 'difficulty' for the foreigner.

Aussie Jo
01-06-12, 09:00
Following the forum advice whenever a girl asks to bring a cousin or bring a sister I usually politely ask if the third wheel will pay their own way. Usually this gets them off my back. On Wednesday night I was setup. Tagged lady in a taxi for an hour to see me and then ten minutes out, suddenly says she has her cousin with her and can thy join our little party. Prior to this point we were straight to foyer coffee bar and then hotel room. Bugger. I felt even worse when I met the cousin and couldn't work out if it was a boy, a girl or what. SHe walked like a girl, talked like a girl but had an adam's apple and whiskers. Anyway, the night went on, I paid coffee for three, taxis to Croon, dinner for three and then eventually said that was enough, the cousin goes or you go as well. Anyway the night ended and I invited the original Tagged hottie to come back the next night. She herself was quite hot, nice tagged photos, slim, nice shoes, high, cute.

So, the reason for the report is that I didn't follow the forum advice and got setup. Grr, anyway, I learned my lesson.

In the hotel room the following night the hottie couldn't resist asking me what I thought of her cousin. And of course, the cousin was a gay.

The rest of the night and morning went to plan. Two of the nicest headjobs I've had in a while. On my current average I'm running that the majority of philippine women like cum in mouth. I'll keep a tally as I go ahead. Although the result bathroom gag reflex isn't always so romantic. Having them remove their retainers before oral is also a turnon and reassures me of their university student age.

Tonight's plan is a carry over from more of the forum advice. (always approach the otherwise unapproachables) On my last trip I asked the airport check-in agent for her phone number. Sure enough, about 30 minutes later while I was waiting in the lounge a palm sized piece of paper with her name and number came floating my way. I fantasized that if I was successful I'd have a lifetime supply of free upgrades when leaving Cebu. That part hasn't turned out as she has resigned from the airport job.

I've moved to the Waterfront Casino for a change of scene. It is certainly not as convenient for the sport as the Marriott. I'll write more of that in the Cebu Hotels thread.

Happy punting.

AJ

SergeantRay
01-07-12, 01:09
She had very pale skin which doesn't make any difference to me but to Filipinos this made her look Hi. So and she said some Filipinos assumed she was a snob or were too scared to approach her because of this.

She said, most men stared at her, but few if any approached. I was the first foreigner to ever try.

We drank quite a lot of wine then basically long story short, had 3 days of non stop sex.

Reminded me of why Filipino girls are great, that hint of Latin giving them a real true sex drive, unequalled, I believe in Asia.

At no time did she ask for money, need me to buy her a phone, or similar.

But I did leave her with a sizable donation given as taxi money when she left.

All in a good Philippines experience with the most important lesson being, even girls who look unapproachable. Approach them.

Back to departure, gathered my expectations and flew off to Thailand.Parnellcat,

More power to you. I ought to have these words tattooed onto my chest to inspire me.

I think the greatest challenge for the male traveler in the PI is the fact that THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. Many times I've caught myself falling into old habits, seeing Filipina women through American eyes ("She's too good looking / young / thin / hot to ever take an interest in me.").

Thanks for the reminder.

X Man
01-07-12, 03:02
This is an interesting story.

Different forum members have given different advice on allowing the friend / cousin. I can understand the "no friend" policy if you've already worked out a "straight to the bed" arrangment with the gal, but I've had some excellent results by being flexible. I'm not sure why you are calling it a "setup".

At some point did you ask your target for some alone time on that first night? She gave it up on the second night, so my thinking is she needed the "friend" to vet you. It sounds like you were reasonable with the ladyboy and you probably have him / her to thak for the good service the next night.


Following the forum advice whenever a girl asks to bring a cousin or bring a sister I usually politely ask if the third wheel will pay their own way. Usually this gets them off my back. On Wednesday night I was setup. Tagged lady in a taxi for an hour to see me and then ten minutes out, suddenly says she has her cousin with her and can thy join our little party. Prior to this point we were straight to foyer coffee bar and then hotel room. Bugger. I felt even worse when I met the cousin and couldn't work out if it was a boy, a girl or what. SHe walked like a girl, talked like a girl but had an adam's apple and whiskers. Anyway, the night went on, I paid coffee for three, taxis to Croon, dinner for three and then eventually said that was enough, the cousin goes or you go as well. Anyway the night ended and I invited the original Tagged hottie to come back the next night.

SNIP.

AJ

Aussie Jo
01-07-12, 08:10
This is an interesting story.

Different forum members have given different advice on allowing the friend / cousin. I can understand the "no friend" policy if you've already worked out a "straight to the bed" arrangment with the gal, but I've had some excellent results by being flexible. I'm not sure why you are calling it a "setup".

At some point did you ask your target for some alone time on that first night? She gave it up on the second night, so my thinking is she needed the "friend" to vet you. It sounds like you were reasonable with the ladyboy and you probably have him / her to thak for the good service the next night.Thanks XMan, you are once again a voice of reason.

The 'date' girls v the WL are certainly a little more time consuming but also good company.

My airline check-in girl last night was good company. SHe took me to Park Mall, she likes drinking beer, listening to live bands and then back to the hotel.

Now, this afternoon, I'm doing a ground hog day and going back to my university student of day 1.

I love this sport.

D Cups
01-07-12, 14:31
Ditto, Sarge. To me, it is the best place on earth! I am going to retire there in a few years but for now I just go 2X a year to scope it out. I love that they speak English in the PI and the girls are so damn lovable and available. Whenever I see a beautiful 20-something in the USA who snubs me I just think of her Asian counterpart who I will be banging sometime soon! This is what motivates me! My productivity and performance at work is at an all-time high. Career best effort. And the reaon is all that great pussy in Asia just waiting to be plucked!


Parnellcat,

More power to you. I ought to have these words tattooed onto my chest to inspire me.

I think the greatest challenge for the male traveler in the PI is the fact that THE RULES HAVE CHANGED. Many times I've caught myself falling into old habits, seeing Filipina women through American eyes ("She's too good looking / young / thin / hot to ever take an interest in me.").

Thanks for the reminder.

WestCoast1
01-07-12, 17:20
Whenever I see a beautiful 20-something in the USA who snubs me I just think of her Asian counterpart who I will be banging sometime soon!Oddly, when I'm at home, I don't go about sex the same way as when overseas. Here, I have a list of playmates in my phone. I rarely bust out looking for new blood. I'm quite content seeing the same girls on an irregular basis for booty call here. They are older, not like the girls I get in SE asia. They are all 30-60 in age. As long as they are fine with the booty call (only) , I'm fine with them. I never get snubbed by beautiful young girls because I normally don't bother with them. My booty calls are never for money, just former gf's.

However, I do keep two college girls on the dole when I'm in the mood for youth. One is a cute young spinner, one is more plain-jane (nice body, plain face). Oddly they have not become infected with high price requests, and they work for just a bit more than asian girls go for. One day I asked the plain-jane if she was OK to the money agreement. Her reply: "Hey, this is a month's worth of gas in my car. I'm good."

I think there is a common misperception, both in the west and in pinas, that we are traveling there for pussy only. Not necessarily so. I get my share of punani here, and mostly for free. One doesn't need to travel to get laid, you can get it free or pay for it at home. I like to travel, to experience other things and places and people I don't normally see. The fact that pilipines is a 'wild-west' in many ways makes it attractive.

Sammon
01-07-12, 17:55
Oddly, when I'm at home, I don't go about sex the same way as when overseas. Here, I have a list of playmates in my phone. I rarely bust out looking for new blood. I'm quite content seeing the same girls on an irregular basis for booty call here. They are older, not like the girls I get in SE asia. They are all 30-60 in age. As long as they are fine with the booty call (only) , I'm fine with them. I never get snubbed by beautiful young girls because I normally don't bother with them. My booty calls are never for money, just former gf's.

However, I do keep two college girls on the dole when I'm in the mood for youth. One is a cute young spinner, one is more plain-jane (nice body, plain face). Oddly they have not become infected with high price requests, and they work for just a bit more than asian girls go for. One day I asked the plain-jane if she was OK to the money agreement. Her reply: "Hey, this is a month's worth of gas in my car. I'm good."

I think there is a common misperception, both in the west and in pinas, that we are traveling there for pussy only. Not necessarily so. I get my share of punani here, and mostly for free. One doesn't need to travel to get laid, you can get it free or pay for it at home. I like to travel, to experience other things and places and people I don't normally see. The fact that pilipines is a 'wild-west' in many ways makes it attractive.Well, it is not easy to find young fuckfriends if you are old in USA. There are plenty of young guys there for them. However once in a while you find some girl who likes older men. But you need to be discreet. She usually does not want to be seen with you in public except at casinoes, good restaurents. Sometimes when they go out with their friends and get drunk will drop in for the booty call unannounced. There is always a age barrier in public perception in western countries. It is also there in rest of the world but because of the poverty it is often overlooked.

As for being a sex tourist, once you are outside your home base you are free and do not have the constraints. Free to do whatever you want as to being with girls who look agewise daughters or granddaughters in some cases.

GregLondon
01-08-12, 12:50
Well, it is not easy to find young fuckfriends if you are old in USA. There are plenty of young guys there for them. However once in a while you find some girl who likes older men. But you need to be discreet. She usually does not want to be seen with you in public except at casinoes, good restaurents. Sometimes when they go out with their friends and get drunk will drop in for the booty call unannounced. There is always a age barrier in public perception in western countries. It is also there in rest of the world but because of the poverty it is often overlooked.

As for being a sex tourist, once you are outside your home base you are free and do not have the constraints. Free to do whatever you want as to being with girls who look age wise daughters or granddaughters in some cases.I once read that there is a socially acceptable age gap in the West whereby the female needs to be at least 50 percent of the males age + 7 years. So that it acceptable for a 22 year old guy to go out with a 18 year old girl, a 50 year old to go out with a 32 year old woman and a 60 year old a 37 year old. It always struck me that this rule seems about right in the West. Unless of course you are a major rock star or billionaire. Beyond that gap there is definitely a "raised eyebrows factor". Interestingly I think the same sort of rule holds within the Phils for Phil guy and Phil girl relationships. Fortunately it has been acceptable within the Phils to ignore this social rule for Foreigner. Phil girl relationships. That's changing of course as the economy develops (eg the expansion of call centre jobs for young female graduates) , just as it has changed very rapidly in places such as China. For those at the bottom of the economic heap in Phils the old mantra of "age is just a number" is still chanted, but whereas 3 years ago on DIA 18-80 age range was as common as "accept me for who I am" the better looking / more educated, nulliparas who are not just looking to score some short term cash are definitely lowering their maximum ages range.

Red Kilt
01-09-12, 09:17
. .For those at the bottom of the economic heap in Phils the old mantra of "age is just a number" is still chanted, but whereas 3 years ago on DIA 18-80 age range was as common as "accept me for who I am" the better looking / more educated, nulliparas who are not just looking to score some short term cash are definitely lowering their maximum ages range.I agree with GL on this.

Within the last 6 months I have noticed that the better educated filipinas with the sensible profiles are much more specific about their required age range, and it is certainly not the "one age fits all" 18 to 80 that the mindless girls use.

These better educated ones have now lowered their required upper age range, and it often stops at 40 or 45.

However, they certainly are specific about "no filipinos", and especially not young filipinos.

From what I am told, there are many young pinoy guys on DIA hitting on the older women, so I guess there are some women who want that, and others who rather vehemently do not.

As has been said here many times, feel free to take no notice of what women say in their profiles and send them a message anyway even if your intentions do not match with their requirements. In my experience, many women actually forget what is in their profile anyway, especially if they didn't write it or just cut and pasted it from another profile.

Member #4351
01-09-12, 15:53
Yes I have noticed this and commented on it previously. Many Philippine girls are following the example of the girls in Indonesia and Thailand. In those countries it is almost impossible to find a young non-lady boy who puts "18-80". I think this is a function of younger guys getting on DIA. If no younger guys were writing the girls, they wouldn't be so picky.

Questor55
01-09-12, 20:53
Yes I have noticed this and commented on it previously. Many Philippine girls are following the example of the girls in Indonesia and Thailand. In those countries it is almost impossible to find a young non-lady boy who puts "18-80". I think this is a function of younger guys getting on DIA. If no younger guys were writing the girls, they wouldn't be so picky.What I find amusing is the number of posters on those sites who are specific about a younger age range and yet blithely contact me, regardless of the fact my profile clearly shows an age 20 years beyond their own specified 'due date'. And no, the majority are not hustlers. I agree whole-heartedly with Red Kilt. Ignore what's on the profiles.

Aussie Jo
01-11-12, 05:06
My Cebu visit has come to a close. Over the week that I was in town I managed to bed five ladies with a variety of experiences. When I say experiences I am referring to the type of lady as much as the bedroom experience. Four of my ladies were sourced from Tagged. My Tagged list still has 10 backup names and numbers that I just never got around to calling.

I have detailed four of the experiences in an earlier post and will just discuss my airport girl. This lady I met by random when I was checking in to depart from my last visit (Oct 2011). I had kept in intermittent contact with her over those couple of months. When in Cebu we caught up for a coffee at Waterfront Casino and then headed out to Ayala for some dinner. She was keeping her distance although was taking the centre seat in the taxi.

After dinner at Ayala we went upstairs and had a beer at Yellow Taxi whicih I didn't even thing sold beer. This did give us a goof view of the live entertainment playing on a stage in the centre of the Terraces. Reasonable music, beers and good company, whom could ask for more.

Ding Ding, goes my phone, it's a text from my random pickup girl from two nights earlier."Hi, I'm at Ayala watching some live music, why don't you come and join me?" Well that surely made me shit myself, all I needed was a confrontation. I quickly encourage a beer sculling and we exited Ayala as soon as possible. Ms Random Pickup thought I was at my hotel tired in bed.

We headed to Park Mall. Now that was a great entertainment venue. We tried a couple of bars, both with live music. At one venue we order a bucket of beers and food for a total cost of P330. Pretty good value me thinks.

Eventually my airline lady and I end up back at the hotel, in bed and with a little bit of encouragement, she was beautiful. I think she was quite genuine in only expecting to turn up for coffee and not expecting to be in bed. Once she had made the mental decision to enjoy herself, she certainly did. We are keeping in contact for future visits.

For the final two nights, I went back to one of my earlier dates, based solely on her ability for CIM. She didn't disappoint and I have a lovely image of cum on her face. BUT going back for the second time does have dangers. She was certainly much more comfortable that she was onto a good thing. I enjoy getting pampered, dried after my shower, getting my 'smalls' hand washed. I ended up asking her to leave earlier than we had planned for her to stay. I just needed the personal room and was a little concerned with her interest in my personal affairs. I sent her home with P2k for taxi and clothes. As a 22yo uni student she is trying to keep in contact.

For my return trip later this year, I'll just be satisfying myself with the abundant supply of P4P at Ayala and the clubs. A lot less 'overhead' before and during the visit.

See you guys when I'm next in town.

AJ

Cuchulain
01-14-12, 10:14
I like to try to find the gem in the street walker scene. Looking for new areas. I know they are out there. These are the areas I know of. 1. Mango square usually around dusk they start coming out. But there are lots ladyboys around here. 2. Colon all over down here but have not seen many gems of late, around the sogo behind the street where mcsherrys is. Further up that street on the corner across from jolliebee is the main corner at night, right in front of jollibee that whole streett during the day. After jollebes closes less girls on that corner. I consider all these parts of colon 1 area, since it's all pretty much about 2 blocks. 3. Mcdonalds area in colon, basically the street that goes to the emall, there are a bunch of little dive hotels. Mostly ugly bettys I have seen. 4. Port road downtown near the port area, have not been down here yet but heard there are more gems than colon. 5. Around the arena club. I know there are other hot spots out there.

Please share if you know of any.

Supmam
01-14-12, 12:22
So having RTFF, I've come to the conclusion that Cebu is a very fun place to monger, if time is a plenty or you can get on to DIA. Unfortunately, I have not much time, DIA is a no-go due to home situation and so, I'm stuck with only two real options. And Manila, sadly, staying in Ortigas for one night, with most likely no chances there either.

My visit to Cebu is going to be four nights, plenty one might say. But I'm working US hours and staying at the Waterfront with my US colleagues. Grumble, grumble, grumble.

It seems like I could go for one of the overpriced hookers in the lobby. Which is a risk because of work colleagues. However, if I time it right, there seems to be a secret basement of other hookers. And perhaps a chance of a 10am fully nude oil massage. I'm wondering if anyone has chanced their hand at these options and what sort of prices did they see? Was the service good? My previous experiences with Pinoys has been lacklustre, so not sold on this option.

The other option is to visit Finland or Wild Orchid massage when the colleagues are busy. Does anyone have a price for those places and will I get my brains fucked out by a dirty little fuck machine? Damage?

THanks guys. Promise to write up.

Stroker Ace88
01-15-12, 06:19
Oi Sinulog!

To everyone in Cebu that will attend the parade and festivities today have a safe and happy Sinulog!

Just friendly reminders, Tanduay is not a condiment, garbage bags can be turned into a rain jacket with a few modifications, the line you waited in for 30mins was not the line to the CR but the line for henna, stay away from the meat on a stick unless you like azkal, accepting sexual advances from a woman when your beer goggles are in full effect not recommended.

OoooHHHHoooohhhhhh Sinulooooog! :D

Red Kilt
01-17-12, 10:31
I think too many posters here post crap they read , not what really goes on.Amen to that Frenzy. It is much more enjoyable to read about experiences had by guys and then we can draw our own conclusions from that.

As has been said many times before, after 14 years of regular visits to Cebu, I have never experienced any extortion, threat or mishap, otherwise I would have reported it. I am inclined to think think that these things might happen more in AC than Cebu (or Manila) simply because of the nature of AC (Fields and Perimeter anyway).

My experience with the text from the alleged hubby / boyfriend was reported on the Chat thread as an actual experience to assist guys to draw whatever conclusion they like to apply in future to their own experiences.

Aussie Jo
01-21-12, 08:05
I say hit Juliana's around midnight. You won't find yourself having wasted a thousand pesos or so on ladies' drinks, and end up broke and alone.

You may just wind up seeing the very women you were looking to barfine earlier in the evening.

As one Australian friend of mine said when asked to purchase a ladies' drink: "Ladies' drink"? Where are the ladies? They're nothing but a bunch of tarts. Get me a lady and I'll buy her a ladies' drink."Haha, I deserved that feedback. By that Sunday night I was totally shagged. I should have mentioned I'd also ran in the Cebu marathon that morning up since 2:30am with a Cebuana gf giving me a HJ for good luck. In the week that I had been in town hadn't gotten to visit any Mango bars so it was a last ditch effort. My days start early as I am working on Sydney time ie work starts at 5:30am Cebu time.

Quarry
01-21-12, 20:41
The freshest thing about Mavs was MM. Wow.Ohhhh yes. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.

Quarry
01-21-12, 20:43
The freshest thing about Mavs was MM. Wow.You got that right. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.

X Man
01-22-12, 11:56
I was deliberately being a little vague, but after your post Mavs will have a queue outside with guys asking for Ms. Mm. Ha, ha, there won't be anything left of the poor girl. Well, since the cat is out of the bag, she pressured me to take her friend. So I guess she's already changed. X.


You got that right. I was there last year while it was still called SD. I saw MM up there "dancing" as I walked in, and knew instantly that I had to have her. I was first hijacked by a girl I "knew" from an earlier visit, played some pool with her, and managed to ease MM into the equation. Turns out they were friends, so no problem. I took them both back to my hotel, spent most of the time with my tool inside MM's body, just like I wanted. She was a bit shy with the other girl there, but once she hid in the bathroom, MM loosened up considerably and proved to be a great fuck, with realistic sound effects too! She is a hot little package with a perfect set of breasts, not huge, but just right.

Other than that, there wasn't much going on there, and I had the place all to myself. The girls were complaining about lack of business.

Stroker Ace88
01-23-12, 21:28
White Castle KTV in Lapu-Lapu was raided by police and anti [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) task force last Friday. Six employees of the Korean owned bar have been charged. Sounds like they refused to pay the right people and as a result the Korean owners and managers are in jail.

Of particular interest is a comment half way down the report,"At least one adult online forum identifies the White Castle KTV Bar, which is located in Barangay Pusok, as a place to pick up girls."

That comment serves as a warning. This is an open forum and many locals and lurkers read these pages. Has anyone bothered to take a look at the 'who's online' tab? If there are 100 forum members online at one time, there are four or five times that number of lurker 'guests'.

If you go to the last section of the report there is a comment area and judging from the comments the forum in question is not ISG. ISG has a zero tolerance level when it comes to posting under 18 info and rightfully so. Hopefully this will enlighten and highlight why many members take the extra time to crop pics, blur faces and change names.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/cebu/local-news/2012/01/21/ktv-charged-trafficking-43-rescued-201758

GregLondon
01-25-12, 00:33
I sent a couple of my girls out to get pizza from Pizza Hut Fuente circle last evening (having invited a couple of new girls to come for a swim and fuck)

One of them came back a bit later after meeting another guy for a drink. By the time she came back an hour later a guy had been shot dead just outside Pizza Hut.

Brenno
01-27-12, 16:36
I was in Cebu 4 days during Christmas time. I stayed one night at Cebu Century Hotel downtown

And 3 days at Diplomat Hotel uptown. The Cebu Century is a really honorable hotel with

Recently renovated large rooms. Unexptected comfort for such a price 850PHP / night.

I can confirm outside of Cebu Century there are some pimps (3) offering girls (a service

That I didn't use) , but about FL / SW, sorry but there is nothing to talk about.

One skinny woman with half teeth missing, smiling you from the other side of the road,

It doesn't allow me to classify the area as a hot area whatsoever. I wandered around

Evening and night time, I did not see nothing.

Many reports about this area talk about "plenty of.", now they all seems kind of

Fantasy to me, sorry. Maybe I am blind.

The Diplomat Hotel is honorable too, but I didn't feel comfortable there. Yes, the hotel

Is fine, clean and modern, but I always had a feeling of not being welcome, a feeling

That the Diplomat share with most of the other places I've been in the Philippines, even

Angeles! (see report). The restaurant service sucks.

I wandered around the nearby Robinson Mall (as well as many other malls in the

Philippines, like SM in Angeles and Cebu, SM and Robinson in Manila, but I've never

Never never seen any FL or girls looking for. Never, nowhere.

It is not true that on Osmena circle and around there are FL. One day, one girl get to

Me on the stairs the way in Robinson mall. She asked me if I wanted a girl. One girl. One.

I've been 2 nights to the girlie bar on Mango ave, namely the red lips and Planet X.

In the red lips none didn't care about me, as well as to the other guys (there were not

Many people, a dozen more or less). Except 2 korean boys, the girls didn't care about

Anyone. One girl dancing with a bored face and all the others packed in a corner jggling

With smartphones. When I told to the bartender that girls were all hidden, she just

Notch her shoulder. That was the red lips. I left after while and I didn't go back. At

Planet X the girl were more friendly (also because I was the only customer) , some also

Doable but yet I didn't barfine any. Kind of feeling that the whole thing was a scam,

Like what has become Angeles.

Had 3 DIA contacts. 2 no show and 1 three hours late and ("have to go now").

My experience in Cebu was overall zero.

I understand reading this report one could think that I am a kind of monster even the

Ugliest woman in the most desperate situation will never touch, but I am normal man 48

Caucasian white, healthy and neutral look. Since now I've never had problem with P4P, as

My previous reports prove.

So, what happens in Cebu? Don't know, but for sure do not happens sex.

Aussie Jo
01-28-12, 03:01
So, what happens in Cebu? Don't know, but for sure do not happens sex.Not sure what was happening in your hotel. But surely you saw your share of middle-aged western males going to their room with young 20 year old cuties?

What about the guys at malls walking around with cuties?

And the girls at Planet X, would have been happy to join you. Sex does pay.

Can't wait to get back there.

FurryFriend
01-28-12, 06:05
My experience in Cebu was overall zero.

Maybe Cebu was quiet because it was Christmas time.

When I was there last October, the street scene near Colon / Pelarez and around Mango Square at night was very active. There's no way I could walk through the area without a few solicitations.

My experience with the malls, like yours, was equally dead. Maybe I was in the wrong part of Ayala Mall. People keep talking about the "terraces" there. I don't recall any terraces. Then again, I didn't exactly walk through the entire mall either.

I'm surprised your flake rate with online girls was so high. Nevertheless, my rule is, multiply the days you'd be in-town by 2 and that's how many girls you should have tried to meet. Since you were there for 4 days, you should have lined up 8 girls (to account for flakers, uglies, non-chemistry, she doesn't like you, or other reasons).

My flake rate has been pretty low (10-15%). Then again, I avoid top tier girls (cute ones under 23 years old).

I'm pretty sure which online prospect would eventually show up. When you offer to meet, those who would show would reply with enthusiasm. Some will volunteer their numbers. Others will say "it will be my pleasure to meet you in personal" or "I'm so excited to meet you". Others will probe for your arrival date and where you'd be staying.

Those likeliest to flake will say something drab like "sure, why not" when you ask to meet. That's a nice way of saying "fuck off, loser". Those are the girls I stop corresponding immediately. Doesn't matter how cute she is. My time there is too short to waste on convincing someone to show up.

Buko Max
01-28-12, 15:09
Of particular interest is a comment half way down the report,"At least one adult online forum identifies the White Castle KTV Bar, which is located in Barangay Pusok, as a place to pick up girls."It was more then likely a Korean fourm since most of the customers are Korean and the like. A few years back I did mention the place after I visited but have not seen anything about this KTV on ISG since.

Yes sounds like they missed their payments. Being in that business, I'm sure they took every measure to make sure all their employees were of legal age. Dental exams are not very accurate and can be off by as many as two years!

Buko Max
01-28-12, 15:19
One of them came back a bit later after meeting another guy for a drink. By the time she came back an hour later a guy had been shot dead just outside Pizza Hut.Unfortunately shite happens! During Sinulog, a group of Italian touristas were being robbed at gunpoint and one of them put up a fight. He did not live to tell the tale. But Cebu still has a low murder rate per capita.

Aussie Jo
01-29-12, 03:22
My experience with the malls, like yours, was equally dead. Maybe I was in the wrong part of Ayala Mall. People keep talking about the "terraces" there. I don't recall any terraces. Then again, I didn't exactly walk through the entire mall either.The Ayala Terraces area is that outside courtyard lined by restaurants. Sitting around the large tree in the middle on one of the benches by yourself is a good place to start. Others have mentioned sitting at any of the cafes at an outside table by yourself. Also the area around the outside elavators seems to be poplar for eye contact.

Member #4491
01-29-12, 04:40
A rookie knows little about filipina jealousy and how to deal with tampo situations and is not familiar with some of the childish behavior, and if he gets himself involved with a young socialite woman do you really see it working out? I don't. If a girl feels rightly or wrongly that she has been scorned and lied to and is in tears, what rich well connected father wouldn't ease her pain and make a few calls to send the guy packing. I am not saying that's what will happen, just something for the guy to think about.Yes you are probably right Stroker Ace88. As an advice to a first time visitor to any culture, it is probably wise to suggest not to target the pickiest ones in a specific society. It is much easier to fail and if you bend the truth to actually do get Miss Hilton in to bed, you must be prepared to handle a possibly stronger reaction to the revelation of the truth, than you would get from a desperate squatter girl.

If you run into them. Fine, but I see no direct point in targeting "upper class / rich girls" specifically, unless one either has a struggling ego that needs it, or the naive idea to benefit from these relations financially. An important addition to the claim I often do that "there are all types of people everywhere", is that the concentration of a specific trait do vary quite a lot. The normal distribution slides on the X axis so to speak. Many of these princesses are just as childish and shallow as any other pinay, but prideful, smug and vain. Obnoxious to listen to for more than a few minutes and quite an explosive mix if you light the fuse. Intelligence does not correlate with the size of daddy's wallet, so if that is the objective it is better to focus on student groups or specific professions. Once again and as you suggest Stroker Ace88, there is no real point in targeting upper class / rich girls IMHO.

I know it is a generalization but in my experience IT students often tend to be sharp. This education cost a little bit more so many of these girls are from families that are not totally poor. Teacher (students) quite often also offers some sort of intelligent conversation after sex, but many of these girls are dirt poor it seems. The H&R students are often homely and want to cook after sex. Simple and caring girls as far as I experienced. The nurses I had where from all over society and all where, without exception, horny caretakers that had a relaxed approach to sex and bodies.


I noted that probably 98% of passers-by dragged their feet, whether they were plastic slippers (thongs / flip flops) , rubber shoes (sneakers) and especially that variety of heeled shoe that girls wear by inserting the toe into the front section and the back portion flaps free and makes a clickety-clack sound.LOL, yes it can get on my nerves as well sometimes. According to wikipedia,"synesthetic experiences can have measurable behavioral consequences", and I wonder if my synapses aren't tuned into the sound of high heel shoes not being properly walked in. When Farfalas opened in Davao the girls where all dressed in rather stylish suits with semi high heels. Unfortunately Selina (or whatever her name is) forgot to instruct the girls to lift their feet. Especially one girl would sort of slide around in the restaurant with slightly bent knees and just small lifts, making an annoying schwish sound followed by a clonk when the heel hit the floor. This girl never stood still and she produced a hypnotic schwish klonk schwish klonk schwish klonk, all night through starters, dinner and desert. .

B.

Pedro606
01-29-12, 10:08
I will soon be in the Philippines!

Too difficult to go into everything as to reason why etc but I will only be in Cebu from time to time during the day. I will be arriving by ship about 7am and leaving that same evening about 7pm.

I have heard of a few short time hotels I could use like the Sogo and one that has themed rooms. I am just wondering the best place to pick up a decent enough girl. Not looking for show stoppers just a decent one- I am sure you know what I mean. Only for about 2 to 3 hours.

Any ideas of the best place to wander around to pick one up.

A few years back I was walking around near some cinema- cannot remember exactly where but in the dwontown area. I got a nice girl about 23 and she was accompanied with an older woman (not in the room!) and went to a very small hotel which I recall years ago was a massage place. Paid 200 pesos for room and gave girl 500 pesos. Was a bit put off finding out she had bad stretch marks!

Anyone got any suggestions etc.

Many thanks!

Redman69
01-29-12, 23:26
Well the old Silver dollar bar on Funtes circle. I do not know the new name. Opens at 12 am. Serves lunch, And you know sogo and queensland. The girls will know where to tell the taxis. 1800 peso fine. 350pesp for 3 hours qeensland I belive. I would take two in htat short a time and keep them working. Make sure they know it is 3 hours and not one pop. Same price for lt. They will be happy. Give them taxis fare back to Silver dollar and flag down a cab and be on your way.

Based on your design that is what I would do. Ask what the new name of the silver dollar is. Our goggle it and the place will come up on 20 sites for location purposes. Get to Robinson Mall next door at 10 am. Window shop there for something to do. Then hit silver dollar if nothing is bought before hand. RED

Cuchulain
01-30-12, 01:52
Things I do during the day in cebu.

It is actually nice to read real reports and information for a change. Once people start reporting and we quit talking about bs stuff, we actually gert some great information on here!

The old silver dollar is called the Maverick I have not been there yet but will be trying it in April when I arrive. I have been to the silver dollar many times and it was where I bar fined my first girl in cebu.

During the day this is what I spend some time doing.

1. Right next to the sogo downtown there is a massage parlor to the right, green sign and you have to go up the stairs.

Full body 1 hour massage is I think is 110 pesos, under $3 us dollars, they never offered extra service and I never tried. I have had many massages there.

2. I get a pedicure, manicure, hair cut at least once a week 50 pesos each on average.

3. Robinson Mall. It caught on fire the day I arrived last time, but this was going to be where I was going to spend some quality time picking up girls, there are freelancers here during the day being so close to mango. I think you might have luck on the upper levels waiting for foreigners to come accross on the footbridge. I have not had much luck at ayala during the day, I think early evenings later in the week and saturdays are the best times. I have picked up women at ayala but not as many as I should of for how much time I have spent there. But I am usually gone by dark. Sm mall I have had zero luck and I do not know where the spots are to pick up woman there. Hopefully someone will share that info.

4. Downtown street walkers. Around the cebu century hotel there are street walkers (or standing) during the day. Be careful theses girls are usually on drugs and most I wouldn't fuck with your dick. Wrap it (twice)! I have seen gems down here though.

Also if you stay on century hotel side of the street right in front of the Jollibe there are tons of street walkers on this side of the street all the way down to the end on the corner. Most work out of the hope hotel just around the corner. Most are pretty nasty and can be had for a few hundred pesos. Again be more than careful down here. This is the bottom of the barrel and. But if your bored and downtown you can do a little looking.

5. You can also get extra service downtown. There is a place that looks like a barber shop downtown. Almost directly across the street from the cebu century hotel. I have never seen anyone getting a hair cut here, but you can get a BJ for about 500 pesos if you negotiate very very well. I have only been in there one time. I am sure there are other places to get services during the day. I just have not found them yet maybe someone will share.

6. I know lots of guys walk around collecting phone numbers to text girls to see if they can get a hookup later that night.

I drink very little so I am not uaually suffering from a hangover in the morning, so I am always looking to stay busy during the day as well. I am sure. I hope otrers can add to the list of things to do.

I hope this helps a little.

Mc Don
02-01-12, 16:03
i do not think this guy means " pimp " in the pimp sense. it is just that once you meet girls and give them enough incentive by way of money and gifts they will bring their friends or relatives to make more money.

caution in this are there could be many **** girls which is hard to know. another thing is if any of girl's relatives or neighbours find out what this guy is doing it will be a big problem.

in philippines everybody watches everybody especially in cebu. do not believe these girls keep their mouth shut. sooner or later words get around that there is a foreigner seducing all teenage girls by money and.

gifts (in his own words ).

having been to cebu many times it is not a good idea to do what this guy is doing. keeping couple of contacts and having few girls coming over should be ok. but to get as many girls as possible using teenage.

girls will definitely get him in trouble. cebu is a small place compared to manila.

it is not a country where everybody minds their own business. philippine people are somewhat tolerant when they see foreigners with young girls although they comment and sometimes curse. my gf tells him what they are saying since i do not speak tagalog or visayan. and those comments are outright offensive and threatening. imagine one these school girls this guy is having sex with tells her folks about it when questioned?

he should really watch out and keep his activities under the radar.100% agree. i have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what levdog describes. this were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. if you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that levdog is probably overpaying in cebu. yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. i hope levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. the phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

levdog i wish you all the best, i hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

happy mongering.

Frenzy3
02-01-12, 16:40
100% agree. I have done somewhat simular things in manila where a friendly ex bar girl has fixed me up with lots of her non bar friends but nothing like what Levdog describes. This were largely freebies or 500. 1000 peso fucks in manila with some small gift to my friend. If you analyse the text better after the commission of the "pimp" and the girls cut it works out that Levdog is probably overpaying in Cebu. Yes he is getting fresh girls but it takes only one incident for the whole situation to turn on his head. I hope Levdog is smart enough to move around often and has not given his real name to the hotel and girls. Gifts such as phones to girls that don't own one is asking for trouble. The phone will not go unnoticed at home and then the trouble will start.

Levdog I wish you all the best, I hope you are not taking this the wrong way, make sure you take extra care.

Happy mongering.Mc don I would not advise some one to keep breaking the law and that he will alright if moves around ans give false names, they have a way of doing things in PI, they are called "set up", I would recommend any one reading this to follow the laws, it really is a small world in cebu, as you pointed out giving new girls phones starts people talking, I always use the line I will pay you for your time (just like the bar fine system) , and then it is on me if they just leave, he saying he only pays for results will get up some one nose and land him in hot water.

As I said there are ways of doing things here and people who already run the risk and they get paid for a reason, do not mess with it.

GregLondon
02-02-12, 03:56
I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.

X Man
02-03-12, 07:57
Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.


I'm based in Cebu City now, I'm coming accross a few hot prospects based in Lapu Lapu. It's too much hassle / too far to ship them to Cebu City given the availability of girls in Cebu City so I'm happy to pass along contact details or mention I've got a friend in LL. I've not met these girls in person so no guarantees but I'm only interested in 18-30 slim girls with no kids so they wil have passed that test. PM me if interested.

GregLondon
02-04-12, 07:30
Hi GL, you don't post much lately so good to hear you're still out there having fun and helpin' people make friends. Several times I've had morning flights out of Cebu and on the way to the airport I am amazed at the huge number of ladies on their way to work at MEPZ (did I spell it right?). I keep thinking I should spend a few days in Lapux2.Yes I'm back in town and you are right I am much more circumspect about helping out guys with contacts etc than I was before. Or posting details of my somewhat unorthodox set up. (You and one or two other senior mebers have every right to call Ï told you so" on that one.) The problem is that there is not much upside and plenty of downside in trying to help people out. Eg Guys often hold you semi responsible for how things pan out with the girls even if you arejust doing them a free favour and there can be no guarantees also in a couple of cases girls I have thought I knew quite well and could recommend did some bad stuff eg one or two things stolen etc. The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.

I do have quite a few nice girls here and am happy to help out guys who are genuinely looking for a wife or newbies wanting a nice holiday GFE etc but not the many guys here who are just looking to fuck as many girls as possible who are more than cabale of finding their own contacts LOL.

Aussie Jo
02-05-12, 03:24
I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.


The other problem for me is that maybe 50% of the guys on ISG are into bare back sex which means that girls caneasily pick up STD s if they go with too many of the guys from ISG.I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJ

GregLondon
02-05-12, 06:02
I enjoyed your update on the pitfalls of helping ISG people out. It really has to be a buyer beware, make your own fun, type of arrangement. The forums are full of people with good stories, bad stories, flaky women and even flakier punters.

I'm not sure that this can be reliably predicted. Many men care about their health. In my short couple of visits to Cebu I have been offered bareback by the women. I only want to to have sex with condom which they don't always enjoy as much. I am surprised at the lack of contraceptive and STI education.

The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

Anyway, I think many men can be easily presuaded if the girl is willing to go without. These guys have to understand that that is a decision by the pinay without education.

AJYes I'm afraid this is becomes a heated topic on which people have strongly held views so all I would wish to do is put forward my personal perspective rather than enter into a slanging match with anyone.

It's certainly true that maybe 90% of the sex these girls have with their Phil BFs is without a condom relying mainly on the withdrawl method. As a result maybe 65% of the girls on DIA are single mums as the Pinay BF almost always disappears as soon as the girl says she is pregnant. When a girl does get preggie here there is real heartache re abortion which is illegal here. There is often denial fro 3 or sometimes 6 months. One of my GFs from last year had a fat Christian goody 2 shoes tutorial partner who collapsed one day at the Catholic college they attended. She was takento hosital and they found she was 7 months pregnant and needed an emergency caesarian or she or the baby might die. This being the Phils no money no operation and her family had no immediate funds so guess who had to "lend"her the funds. Anyhow at least they both survived the baby was under 3 pounds I think so not sure how healthy long term. Her 19 year old sister came around to "repay" the debt plus earn some money so that the hospital would release the baby (typically the hospital will hold the baby hostage until all the bils are paid). Many times the girls try to find abortion piulls but its diffcult to be sure they get non fake drugs or advice as to exactly how to take them. If things go very wrong as they did with the brother of another one of my ex GFs who her mum tried to abort late in pregnancy you can be left with a mentally handicapped kid. All in all its a VERY BAD scene. I think the bare back guys are opening themselves up to the "darling I'm pregnant" can you marry me / support me etc etc risk. Sometimes the guys just cut and run at this point. I've also known guys who bit the bullet and married really very, very unsuitable girls and plenty end up sending $300 a month for a long time to support a kid that may or may not be theirs.

Re STDs of course condoms can only reduce not eliminate the risk. This is a message much promoted by the Catholic church : condoms are not 100% effective etc which is interpreted as OK no pioint in using them, despite the fact that they might be 99% effective. Almost all guys will swear blind that they are "clean" which they may or may not really believe but then what of the 10 or so bar / Mango girls he might have fucked bare back during the last 2 weeks? I take it with the same pinch of salt as the belief of 90% of guys that they have a bigger than average cock or are great in bed. Again my experience is that quite a few girls do pick up STDs who knows whether its from ISG type contacts or Pinoy BFs but almost invraiably they don't have the funds / knowledge to get early treatment so it can get quite bad before they finally get treatment.

WestCoast1
02-05-12, 06:55
The withdrawal method was espoused by two of the ladies I met. Pretty sure my formal high school sex education classes debunked the effectiveness of that. These women were in the 30-35 age group.

Another one I heard was the concern about pregnancy more than catching any STI. These came from 22-24 age group. They know about condoms to stop pregnancy but unsure about how condoms can reduce incident of STI.

AJThis should not come as any surprise, as there is no sex education in filippine schools. Many people of all ages are filled with odd superstitions there.

WestCoast1
02-05-12, 08:32
Yes I'm back in town and you are right I am much more circumspect about helping out guys with contacts etc than I was before. Or posting details of my somewhat unorthodox set up. (You and one or two other senior mebers have every right to call Ï told you so" on that one.) The problem is that there is not much upside and plenty of downside in trying to help people out.Interesting.

First, regarding the gents and expectations. I rarely share my girls contact info (mostly because I am spoiled and quite picky). I had my first shared girl 3. 5 years ago in cebu. A cano that I met on F Ramos street, at Bo's Coffee, just across from Robinson's, exchanged phone numbers with me, and later would give me the YM of one of his cebuana regulars. He was not at that time an ISG member. He told me that it might be hard to get into her knickers, at least a few dates. Also what a prude she was, no oral, etc. Nothing could have been further from the truth: she was a complete sl*t, liked posing for the cam, brought me her best friend for a 3-some, and liked to blow bubbles with my cum while I shot closeups of her face with my point / shoot camera (and was fine with p500+taxi). A few months later when I was in town he txt to meet across the street from Juliana's. We were talking about her, and just as I was about to tell him that she was no prude, he mentioned that he was going to increase her ST from 1000 to 1500 because she was becoming more nawty in the bed. I wisely kept my mouth shut as to not embarrass him. She now has a pinoy bf and won't do anyone else apparently.

I had two more shared girls after that from two regular ISG members, and also there were odd differing expectations. One of those gals I wrote about previously (I handed that cebuana p500 for an afternoon's fun, and she started hollering for 2000). These kinds of things make me ask the gent more questions now about the girl's particulars, and it must look like I'm looking a gift horse in the mouth. The difference in expectation can be quite extreme. When I mentioned on the open board about the argument with the cebuana over money, it ignited a small fire of disagreement here about what the going rate is in cebu. In PM, I got a number of notes from regular board members chastising me for low payment, and some freely admitted regularly paying cebuanas: 500, 1000, 1500, 2000, 2500, 3000, 4000, 5000, 6000, and (no kidding) 8000 pesos for ST in cebu city."Cheap bastard!"

Following those girls, I had one recommended in Makati from a board member. When I asked him what she expected for ST, he said 1500-2000. Seemed very reasonable. In chat with her in YM, she was fine with that. We hit it off and she got more than she asked for.

Recently an aussie that I met previously in AC (not sure if he's on ISG) was chatting me in YM, and said he had a girl in CDO. Enthusiastically he gave me her YM and said he had mentioned me to her. He told me that he was too shy to use a camera during sex, and asked if I went there and banged her, could I take and send him pics (no kidding, I get this kind of request sometimes). Sure. I chatted her up, age 19, seems workable, she was agreeable to my kind of fun. Later in asking him what she would want for payment he said she never spends the night and he gives her 5000. What? Is she one of those over-priced gogo bar girls in CDO? Nope, just an unemployed po gal. He then said he also has a girl in butuan he wants me to meet, he also gives her 5000. WTF? 5000 is a month's wages for a butuana.

Now to the girls. Except for the Makati girl, every gal that another gent has recommended to me has been flaky in one odd way or another. I thought one of the gals had drifted off to sleep, and I rinsed in the shower (60 seconds). When I stepped out of the CR with a towel, she was dressed, her purse was over her shoulder, my wallet was in her left hand, and all the pesos were in her right hand: caught red-handed. Sheepish look on her face, as in addition to theft, she had agreed to LT. One recommended gal showed up with an ugly older friend, telling me I could f*ck the ugly one instead for the same amount of agreed money, while the cute one waited in the lobby. Sheesh.

As GL is hesitant to give out contact details (and me also) , I am hesitant to accept them, without asking questions (is she ok to cam?) , and then asking the girl the same questions (you're ok to swallow my cum?) in YM chat in advance of my visit. Doing this eliminates almost all of the girls now who are recommended to me. GL and I don't know each other, but if he were to recommend a cebuana who wants more than the mango ave bar girls, or one who is not as wild as those girls, it's not worth his time to recommend her, nor mine to chat the girl up. I think each time one of these oddities happens, its embarrassing for either myself or the recommending gent; hence my reticence (and GL's).

Mc Don
02-05-12, 09:45
I think we are all little different which makes it very difficult to offer someone else a perfect girl. What does it for me may not do it for you. Also the girls tend to act different around different punters. I can understand why GL may have had high thoughts for some girls, after all he has been around with them for some time, looked after then so yeah they would not steal from him and would do much more to please him then say someone that he recommended that may have not treated them just as nice. Bottom line is in Phils where girls are plenty anyone reading this forum should know where to go and find girls. Info should be shared when specifics are in question, if someone wants a good spinner, big boobs and so on. Also reading reports and looking at photos from some of the regulars I can now tell with who I have somewhat similar taste and yeah I would probably enjoy their recommendations. It helps when the gent is also specific as to when he will provide assistance or the other person who is asking to be specific and explain what exactly he is looking for. Bottom line is like GL said, if helping there is plenty of downside, little upside, those that help and have access have been long around to have worked out ways of getting what they want anywhere in phils, at least thats my experience.

Buko Max
02-06-12, 01:03
White Castle KTV in Lapu-Lapu was raided by police and anti [CodeWord908] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord908) task force last Friday. Six employees of the Korean owned bar have been charged. Sounds like they refused to pay the right people and as a result the Korean owners and managers are in jail.Drove by there the other night and they were open for business. You have to take much of what you read in Philippine newspapers with a grain of salt.

Cuchulain
02-06-12, 05:18
Thanks for the info. But I was the one that posted the info about girls around the arena and near the national book store on this forum last month.

I was talking about a squater area like juanquera where the bring the girls out for you to look at. I guess it's going to take a slum expert to figure this out.

I am not saying that the locals are here to brag rather than give info isn't to put someone down. It is just what ii see. I do not live in cebu and give lots of detailed info when I can. Trying to help out my fellow traveler. I have also messaged a few people that live in cebu way before I called them out on not sharing info. Of course they shared nothing.


I am one of the guys who live here and I get pm from guys thanking me for my input. Most expats have gf so what do you expect. I was going to tell you where the other area is but insulting me you can find it yourself It was posted by some one living here but they did not impress you.

Guys from this forum who have made the effort and met me I have helped guys like you who post public insults will never get any help.

Any way off being the hard arse the other 2 street girl area is off mango the road down from national book store. And down from arena towards the port area the port road.

But next time lay off the insults the few guys I know who live here and post on the forum are helpful. We just do not bar hop every night. And unless we meet you we do not hand over our contacts. Often I get guys visiting who fuck me over so blame the pricks before you if you think we are hard.

Riverman
02-07-12, 15:54
I usually don't bother with the Go Go bars in Cebu City as my experience as they just compare to the ones in Angeles or Thailand, but my girlfriend was back in her province and I got the itch to play.

I went into BJ's on maxilon / mango at about 10 pm and the place was dead. To my suprise their was a number of cuties there, and I think I was 1 of 2 guys in the place. The first girl up on the stage was a long legged beauty-with a nice soft smile, great skin tone, and a nice set of breasts. That's what I was after. My girlfriend is smokin hot, but she's pretty flat. I don't mind that as I'm an ass man, and man, she has a great ass.

Anyway, tonite I wanted to play with some nice tits. The mamasan was friendly and I bought her a ladydrink. That usually does wonders for how your treated in those places. I asked the name of the girl on stage. Meg was her. And asked if she could join me for a drink. Mamasan said sure, after her dance.

About 10 minutes after I had come in the place, this skinny old Korean dude comes in and sits down. Just as Meg's dance is winding down, he calls to the mamasan, and motions that he wants Meg. I'm thinking "ohh, shit, their not going to screw me for the Korean, are they?"

Well, they did. The mamasan says, sorry (pointing to me) she's taken. So he gets up goes to this other lady, whom I assume is the GM or something and has words with her. Then he sits down right in front of the stage, to cock block me. Meg walks off, and the GM lady tells to go to the Korean jerk. My mamasan girl tries to intercede, but GM Dragon Lady is having none of it.

She actually has the gall to come over to me and say that, sorry, the other guy was first. Bullshit, but I know the score, the Cebu bars are for Koreans Only. White men, stay out.

Needless to say, I'll not go to BJ's again this side of the grave.

Member #4491
02-08-12, 02:15
She actually has the gall to come over to me and say that, sorry, the other guy was first. Bullshit, but I know the score, the Cebu bars are for Koreans Only. White men, stay out.

Needless to say, I'll not go to BJ's again this side of the grave.Riverman, she said "the other guy pays more" in Philippino dialect of English. You could overbid, get nasty and add friction to their choice to lie, or just accept this downside of the purest form of capitalism.

As for the moralizing discussion I am just stunned. What happened to to concept of freedom of choice for legally adults? If I want to lay bricks, kick a ball or take it up my ass for a living, I assume it is my moral right to choose this? For sure there are illegal aspects to this story but then we are all illegal. Morally I think there is not much difference in supporting an industry that is an easy way out, attracting girls to open their fanny for a penny, or to just ask the girl directly. For sure the Oligarks make less money if you pay the girl directly but this is hardly immoral. One can have opinion on prostitution as a whole and stick to well matured girlfriend ladies, but ISG is not the appropriate hangout then. Levdog maybe have to deal with some shitty karma for his choice in life, but so will most of us here. Most of us are addicts under our dick and a desperate and uncontrollable sexual drive. We work to fuck and fuck to have a reason to work. Yes there is more to most of our lives but IF you are on ISG, fucking more than one woman IS a big deal in your life. Levdogs strategy is efficient and somewhat heartless and cynical. Surely he is bound to miss out on the softer sides of sex at times, and female performance might be affected from the lack of bonding, but to call him an immoral criminal for hooking into the broker culture of Asia is just way out of line. What if these girls are happy to score all this money and if Levdog was a gentleman and a great fuck? Is it still immoral? Should he perhaps make it sound a bit prettier with some disclaimers of what a great guy he is and how sweet he is to these girls during the one hour sessions, and then it could pass the moral filter of ISG?

And if the justice system is totally corrupt and lawless as supposed, I guess it does not matter what he does since any crime will just be invented and slapped in your forehead anyway. Illogical reasoning to say that Levdog should stop fucking legal teens before the arbitrary justice system catch him and invent a crime. Most guys here use brokers in some way. Friends, mamasan, hotel staff, the guard, etc. It is all trafficking in the Philippines if a judge wants it. Maybe best for some people to just stay at home.

When I see all the hypocritic posts I realize I might need another hobby than reading the Cebu thread on ISG.

You can lie to yourself but you rarely convince others with the transparent crap that comes out of your mouth.

Barba.

Riverman
02-08-12, 04:18
Somebody earlier mentioned they never had any success with SM mall pick ups and asked if anyone knew of a pick up spot there.

Its true that the action there appears to be less than Ayala and Robinsons, however, there is some pick up action there, tho its not great.

A somewhat central and popular spot for white foreign guys to eat is the French Baker resto. Often semi-pro girls will hang out on the rail in front of that place trying to get the eye of a foreign guy. The girls that I've seen there trying to pick me up haven't excited my interest, so I didn't bother.

SM is a central transport hub for the v-hire vans and jeeps coming in from the provinces, so you get alot of young but relatively conservative girls passing thru and shopping there. My experience is the somewhat higher end cebu city girls hang at Ayala for pick ups, and at Robinsons its a bit of a mix of higher end, thru just about street girl types.

Starchild2012
02-08-12, 12:24
As some of you may have read my experience in Manila last month, well, at the end of it, things did turn around, but not as I was expecting it to be, so I had made a decision never to return, however, reaching back home and looking at my options, the nightmare of being alone and with my hands began again. There are really few or if any good options for an Indian guy to gets its load off once in a year or so within budget.

Price wise and cost of living wise with Visa extension, No place could come close to PH IMO. Thailand is an option but you know the way they treat Indians and our smell does not get taken lightly plus one beer. 5 guys, one girl thingy and its better not to venture that route any more.

With my budget, I could go for a week vacation in Europe if I could get a visa that is, even if I get a visa, I could stay no more than a month, south america is an option but long term visa is a problem. Plus language. Everywhere I turn around. PH stands out in all points. There is truly no place like PH for me. No matter how bad it gets from time to time.

Considering.

1. Cost of living. On par with India.

2. Visa extension. 2 yrs.

3. Language. English not a problem.

4. Pollution, corruption, infrastructure. Not like the west. But way better than India.

5. Getting laid. In abundance not a problem at all.

So from a guy from third world perspective. PH is a paradise that I can ill afford to miss.

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In the end. I had to re-prioritize my options and see where I did go wrong and found it to be Manila and not PH in general. Its was too fast paced and chaotic scene for me.

So by April. I'm planning my trip to Cebu, I should have sticked with this option. Planning to stay for over a year or so. Any advice on Condo renting would be great as I found, folks are finding it hard to find a good condo in Cebu.

Thanks

Member #4491
02-09-12, 02:44
FF, I agree with you at times but you constantly end up in these keyboard fights. Chill a bit, mate. You know as well as anyone that they primarily care abut the money and not the race. Faster money and more money is what counts. Why would it be relevant for you if someone prefers Asian-Americans? This itself is exactly the same form of stupidity you point at. These bar people that in your opinion are preferring you as a customer, categorize you as fast money and possibly smaller damage to the girls vagina, and this can be just as wrong or right as saying all Koreans are arrogant. And it will certainly not have any reflection, good or bad, on you as a person. Even indicating that someone else is less fortunate or "good" than you, based on the prejudice of the staff in a bar in Cebu, is a highly unreliable and questionable strategy for self fulfillment.

It is normal that we categorize humans in groups based on culture / behavioral patterns and look, and then make certain generalizations based on this. It is, or at least was, a vital survival strategy for thousands of years during the course of evolution. Not saying anyone here hates Koreans, but a fellow IS allowed to hate Koreans IF he wants. His life, his choice, his karma. Where does all moral polices and opinion polices get their air from anyway? Is this the miss universe interview or a place where working girl mongers gather to pass time before next fuck for cash-trip? Today one guy, out of the blue, shared details to a 4"11' pregnant and broke girl with big juicy tits. Now that's what I call an ISG role model.

Starchild I know nothing about condos but respect for your honesty!

Barba

Stroker Ace88
02-09-12, 05:26
drove by there the other night and they were open for business. you have to take much of what you read in philippine newspapers with a grain of salt.heard the korean owners payed some fines and made the requested payments to the proper people to reopen. only a matter of time before they stop paying and another 'rescue operation' will be put in place. the grain of salt in this case was true, just the saving face move of calling it a 'rescue operation and **** investigation' was more for the local officials to save face with the public and hide behind some noble quest. the real motive of the operation was a shakedown and everyone knows that.

if indeed the korean owners refused to pay they would not be allowed to reopen. club jaguar was an example of a owner who refused to pay, the local officials enacted a law to close him down for good when he tried to reopen under another persons name.

you play, you pay. goes perfect with the new moto of the philippines,"it's more fun in the philippines".

WestCoast1
02-09-12, 14:49
Life is short and world is big, why should I go back to Cebu?
You know what I think? I think that Cebu has nothing to offer. However even in the desert something can be found, this doesn't make the desert a paradise. People who do not have anything to say, just do not write reports. I think the majority of people (99%) going to Cebu do not find nothing but they silently skip over and none know nothing about them. See, how many names write on cebu thread? 10, 15 maybe?

Sorry, this is what I think.I must be the 1 percent. These are all mall pickups (well, they picked me up). I liiiiiiike Cebu.

Stroker Ace88
02-10-12, 15:20
I was one of the guys you PM and you never contacted me when you got here? And you said April you get here? Some of the other guys you pm do not live here

I am the slum expert and there is no place like you describe, that is my street today due to the tsunami alert as you can see I live in the middle of it.Frenzy,

You were the only one who mentioned the Negros-Cebu earthquake and the tsunami scare that happened Monday morning and was all the talk of the Philippines and had nerves on edge for awhile. Alot of the members engaged in flame wars have never visited Cebu. Just goes to show how few spend time in Cebu and are plugged into what's going on.

I left CC early Monday morning for white sand and was in a van on the road when the earthquake hit. I didn't feel a thing and narrowly missed the chaos. However I felt smaller after-shocks as late as Wednesday morning farther away from the epicenter.

The ring of fire has brought about a change of topic, let's move on.

W20415
02-11-12, 18:22
You state you know how to move? You where in cebu 4 days and you could not get a girl? You sound disabled to me and I think you are blind you could not see the other bars, as I replied to you before there are more than 2 bars in cebu, if you visit for 4 days do a bar hop every night, do not waste time on malls and DIA or you will end up wanking in your hotel room.Dude I was in Cebu 2 months ago and getting ready to go again. I did my home work. Had lots of DIA girls on tap. Guess what I did not even call one of them. I stayed at Parklane. I walked to Ayala Mall. With in 5 minutes I picked up two hotties from the province. Every time I walked over there I had some action. Also went to a few bars and found a few beauties easily. Dude- if you can't get laid in Cebu- you can't get laid.

Riverman
02-13-12, 10:10
Had 2 meetings set up with new girls I met on DIA this morning.

The first one, when she was about to leave for Robinson's where we were to meet, asked me if she could bring 3 friends instead of 1 for the first meeting, and would I pay for a taxi to and from Talisay (meeting her at the drive in, when they arrived, to pay). I told her emphatically NO. In fact, don't come at all. I have no doubt I could have gotten laid by her, if not all her friends too. But obviously she was setting herself up to be a real piso burner.

In my experience, the good ones never try and hit you for high $$$ before even meeting in person and they can and should take a jeep. If they are well off enouph to take a taxi to the first meeting, good for them, but don't tell me about or ask for piso for it. (Once I know them and have received good service, then fine, a reasonable taxi allowance will be built into the deal.) Furthermore I had no interest in paying for 4 meals and or 4 Bo's overpriced coffee concontions, which, sure as the sun sets in the west would have been next. 1 or 2 cheap meals I'm happy to write off as the cost of doing business, but 4 is just damn irritating.

The 2nd one arrived on time, and alone. Both great signs. She was 19, very pretty, with a fantastic body. Surprisingly she wasnt hungry for Jollibee or Mang Inisal or something like that, and all she wanted was a 50 piso shake from the food court. All to the good.

The bad was, however, that she was angling for a boyfriend, not a playmate, despite what I indicated to her in prior chat. Ohh, well, I would have liked to bang her, but it wasnt meant to be. If your mining the DIA route, this is par for the course. A certain perctage of girls know what your after, but are desparate to meeting a foreign guy for LTR and hope they can flip you to that, even when you are up front with your short term desires. I gave her 50 piso for jeeps and sent her on her way. Hope she changes her mind later and txts me for a booty call.

So, with those 2 strike outs I called one of my regulars (found on DIA) and had a great 2. 5 hour session with her in the afternoon. Paid her PHP 500 for the short time plus PHP 200 for taxi, and we parted company, both happy.

Afaire
02-27-12, 17:54
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.

Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.

That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.

What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.

So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?

Stroker Ace88
02-27-12, 21:35
This is my report on Cebu city where I've been staying for almost 4 weeks now.

I'm 30 years old, an everage looking guy. My purpose was meeting regular girls or semi-professional girls. I was really inspired by many posts saying how it's easy to do this in cebu. Well, at least for me it turned out to be slightly complicated.

In overall I managed to get a girl around every 4-5 days.

I started with dateinasia. In the beginning it was really promising, I got 3 girls in 3 days, but after this it became a hell. Why? Because only 10 girls from 100 answered my messages and only 2-3 from this 10 gave me the phone number. Then, many of girls just have never replied to my sms. Those who managed to come for a date were not ready for a quick love story. So after spending a week on internet I concluded that it's too time consuming and switched to other opportunities.You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet before your trip And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.

What average woman on a dating site wants a guy to send her a message when he is already in town? NO ONE! Most woman in Cebu (and in the Philippines) like to get to know you before your trip so they can tell all there friends (chika-chika) they have a foreigner coming to meet them and they feel special. Most want to get to know you through online chat and after they get comfortable most will be ok staying with you in your hotel and taking good care of you in bed. You did not give them enough time to get excited about your arrival.

Caution, this is not about pouring sweet bullshit into there ears as one guy put it. You can be yourself and make no promises about love, marriage or commitment and even better if they know you are not serious as the chat sessions just function as a getting to know each other period.

Also note that even if you do chat with dozens of woman before your trip and they all say they are ok to come to your room a certain percentage will meet but not follow through so always have a Plan B-C-D ect. Some will refuse to meet no matter what.


Juliana was a sure option for 2-3 times. 500p for taxi. But not sleeping every night is not an option for me, next day walking like a zombi that's too tiring. I quickly understood that on a long term basis I have to switch to a daytime activity.You are only paying the Juiliana girls 500p for taxi? Dude that's karipot prices! 500p is good for short time street pickups but for Juliana girls most expect 1000p short time or 1500-2000p all night depending on the quality of the girl. These girls talk and if you do not pay the going rate most will quickly leave you alone.


That's where I got stuck now. I've read so much sucsessful posts about mall hunting and now I have to admit: either I'm doing something wrong, either it's just a bad luck.

Ayala: I could see maybe 5-6 good looking girls a day, but: they walk with their friends or boyfriends or when I look at a girl she's making a kind of "don't bother me" face I've seen so much at home. There is a couple of hookers and lots of ladyboys but to encounter a single walking girl that will smile you back, that's a luck. Some of girls I approached with "Hi, how are you" were clearly surprised and not open at all. One girl just wanted pics for her facebook with a farang, but nothing more, the other one, I'm trying to date now looks like looking for a serious relationship.

At SM mall it was even worse, I don't feel like girls there were into meeting a foreigner.You are new and your main problem is you can't tell the difference between a girl who is a semi-pro working the mall and average girls having 'hangout time' at the mall. Most average girls when approached will not go with you but are open to exchanging numbers and becoming text-mate friends, but only if you seem nice and not a sex-maniac. No girl wants to look like a GRO infront of her friends di ba. Use some charm, be smooth and don't expect every girl to fall at your feet.

SM mall is not the place for free-lancers, but some do make the rounds. You have to have some experience to spot them and some game and balls to approach normal women but it can be done. Gwapo guys and guys that present themselves well stand the best chance at instant pickup success. Short, over-weight, smokers, unshaven, very loud abrasive talkers or guys who need underarm will find YMMV greatly in a place like Cebu.


What I'm thinking now is maybe I have to start approaching just every good looking girl even accompanied by her friends, but that's still difficult for me, kind of afraid of embarassing situations.

I don't see any other places where I can meet girls, except for nightlife, but that's not for me.You will have to have some game and be smooth to pickup normal girls. The women who work in the malls have all been chatted up before and the word is out on foreigners coming to Cebu for sex with very few guys marriage minded. Hard to score these woman as many co-workers are watching you talk to her and again she doesn't want to look like a GRO infront of everyone.


So my conclusion now, if you're looking for freebie girls maybe you should consider a different destination. Philippines are mostly for bar girls, other girls are too much conservative. At least I could not find same ambience I've found in Cuba for example where flirting is just a part of life.

But I'm still here, I feel like maybe I just still haven't got the right game, will try more.

So maybe, those who succeeded more than me, guys, is there anything I'm doing wrong?Again you did NOT do your homework online before arrival so now you are stuck in your hotel room with your dick in your hand. Try picking up normal girls during the day, but since you are shy that will be hard for you. I do not know how much longer your trip will last, but my advice to you would be to go back online and search for a few suitable girls who are online at the same time you are. Send them a short message to the effect you are looking for someone sweet and nice to spend time with as you will be arriving in Cebu soon. Screen the replies carefully and focus on the ones who seem most enthusiastic you will meet them. Send them a reply and tell them you will arrive in a few days and then go from there.

While that game plan is brewing go to the bars in the early evenings and barfine a girl (or two). I know you mentioned you are not looking for pro's but since you did not do any homework before arrival and you strikeout picking up average girls it's either that or your dick in your hand. You choose.

You mentioned you had a few good experinces with some DIA hookups, why not meet them again? I think I know why, you didn't properly hold up your end of the deal if you gave them 500p (or nothing) and they will not return because you are branded karipot. Maybe you can clarify.

Again, some free advice. Just because a few guys posted they had a great time in Cebu (or any other place) doesn't mean girls will fall at your feet when you get off the plane. Guys posting it's "easy" to pickup average girls in the Philippines sometimes bend the truth alittle (or alot) and often leave out vital details like they paid 2-3-4000p for the experience. Nothing is ever as easy as it sounds and picking up girls requires work, game, effort and social graces. Also some guys are better looking or have a more appealing personality and it takes little effort for them to get laid no matter where they are.

If all else fails make a big sign and walk around Colon "Wanted: Women for sex, apply within, no experience necessary, OJT rates apply" and that should ensure success. ;)

YMMV should be stamped in your freakin' passport upon arrival.

Member #4351
02-27-12, 21:43
Well said Stroker Ace88. Cheap Charlies are not appreciated. These guys think that because the girl doesn´t ask for money, she doesn´t need it.

Afaire
02-28-12, 05:47
Thank you for the comments guys,

Dateinasia: indeed, the 3 girls who I got, I contacted them before arrival, I continue to see one of them. I was not aware of this important "before" issue.

Malls and street: ok, I just have to grow some balls. Still, I don't understand why it was easy for me to approach girls in latin america and why here I feel uncomfortable. I feel like flirting is not welcome. But it may be just my bug.

Money: I've always paid 500p for short time + occasional meals. Now I see your reaction. So how much one should give to freebies in cebu?

Starchild2012
02-28-12, 11:14
You have made a few big mistakes. Cebu is a good place for having great non-pro GFE hookups that are met primarily over the internet. You did not do your homework to develop and find suitable women to meet before your trip And to cultivate some kind of relationship using YM chat weeks before your trip. Just combing through DIA and sending messages to woman asking for there CP# and to meet for fun when you are already in Cebu is a fatal mistake. Your DIA and SMS messages will mostly go ignored by the average girls leaving only those who can be considered online pros to reply.Great info Stroker Ace88, must read info for a newbie.