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There would be a lot of 50's women looking for some nookie. Your opportunities will Neverend , pardon the pun.
Before arriving in Cebu join up for one or two months sites like asianeuro.com or filipinahearts.com
I remember in the former , you could search for specific age groups , cuts the chase. I also remember being approached by a significant number of oldies when I put my 40yr old mug shot on that site. Old ladies looking for a toy boy , ha ha.
Put your mug shot on the site and the younguns will largely ignore you , although some will still apply. Send the young ones to me.
Specify looking for 40's and over and the 50's and over will approach you. Say 50's and over and you might get 60 plus boilers pretending to be 50 plus.
If it was me , I would do that , and on arrival in Cebu and within minutes announce to the hotel Front Desk what your looking for , 40/50's. No , couple of hours after posting this sentence , no , that will not work , cause they will see all the other ones coming to your room too and tell their nominee to forget you , your a Butterfly. Forget Front Desk approach.
At each and every Restaurant tell the waitresses what your looking for. Spread the word wherever you go , dropping off your cell phone number along the way. Another avenue might be GoGo bars. Tell the young girls there your looking for sex with a 40/50yr old. Reckon they will have some elderly relation for you.
When talking to regular folks you might hint at sex , eg "looking for a lady around 40/50yrs for companionship and some fun". But most probably do not have to hint , Filipina's whether 25 or 55 need it just as much as you and I , ha ha.
Do not tell them where your staying at this stage , otherwise you might have them all queuing up outside your hotel room. Then you will be branded a Butterfly. I would interview babes away from hotel room and only take the selected few back to my den. Do not let all of them know where your staying or there might be chaos.
In addition to that , first day you arrive you could advertise , in the Sun Star newspaper for a tour guide , 40/50 , requesting pics and contact cell number. Wouldn't put your cell number in newspaper , might be jammed for days. It could be a lot of fun sifting through the applications and most fruitful. You can not advertise for pen pals etc nowadays but you can advertise for tour guides , I've done it before. The ladies know what your on about , no need to tour at all , ha ha.
No problem in finding 50's and over , no problem at all. Lots of Filipino hubbies abandon their wife and kids , then go looking for a younger wife. Other hubbies get killed , imprisoned , die. Reckon your on to a good thing there , unlimited potential. But make sure there is no hubby lurking in the background. Know of more than one story of hubby letting foreigner screw his wife then trying to extort large sums of money. Alternatively he takes you to court. Serious charge in Catholic Philippines. Be wary of that one.
For me , its still the young ones, where I compete with foreigners half my age.
You will have little or no competition in the 40/50's bracket. They will be so appreciative and serve you well. Dining , modest shopping next day , or slip cash in their purse. No need to talk money like you do with the young ones. Older more eager than the young ones too. They don't get many opportunities. Beware of the religious freaks though. If they start mentioning God in their txt messages whatever , press the delete button ! ha ha.
A report on your findings would make interesting reading.
I'd better park pen now or this will Neverend.
Hi Everyone,
I am going to Cebu next week and staying there for about two weeks. I am in my 50s and would like to get some actions with the women in my age group. I see most girls in the bars are very young. They are just not my type. Any advice about getting hooked up with women also in their 50s?
Thanks
If you are looking for women in your age group the extra added attraction is that you are likely to find a rich widow or two out there. I've run across a few of them in Cebu in particular, typical story, husband dies (Some cases a foreigner) she returned to Philippines bought house, has businesses etc but
nobody to share the bed. In some cases they do get a "boy toy" but being Filipina know that the guy is interested in their money only (Same for the girls hahaha!) but a few have asked me if I know any foreigner interested in a woman their age and "Romance".
I can also tell you that older women hang out in a few of the "Macho dancer" places, doing the same things we do in the go go bars, that is bar fining the younger male strippers, you'd think some of these places are "gay" but they are not, your like to see rich Chinese and Filipina women, in a few cases they're still married but since hubby does his mistress and not them they go looking to buy a piece of meat.
Check out a place across the line from Cebu in Lapu Lapu city called "The Tarzan Club" Just for laughs, a while back a few foreigners I know actually got a job "dancing" in the place, it was a scream with older women stuffing pesos in their jocks and thrilling for them to see an "Americano size" dick.
One last thing, the extra added attraction here is that most filipina are fairly well preserved and it can be hard to tell their age, women in their forties and even fifties still have the same dress size they did in high school!!
Good luck
Spamhog
Spam Hog has hit on the right word : romance.
Filipino's understand that one.
Tell folks your "looking for romance with a 40/50 yr old single woman"
The friendly Filipino's will deliver.
A downside to being a rich widow there is if they do marry a local, their longevity could be in doubt.
Rich Widows
Its put an idea in my head.
To offset travel costs , and whilst in the Philippines , perhaps we foreign mongers could moonlight as Escorts ?
A website : foreignescortsphilippines.com would be a start in the right direction.
What ST and LT rates do fellow members suggest ?
Got to tap into those wealthy Filipino widows , some of whom are seriously rich and seriously bored.
Firstly we need some nude shots of members to see who would qualify as Escorts. Any volunteers ? ha ha.
Cheapest beer in the Philippines, and possibly the world.
As no one wants to moonlight as an Escort and earn more cash, I've got important news for those who like the amber liquid, and like it a lot. You can save a lot of cash with this one:
Did you know?
At Ratsky's, Ayala Mall, 2pm onwards to 6pm sharp, not earlier or later, you can drink all the beer you like for Pesos150. Now, in four hours you can drink a lot of beer.
Conditions Apply. Its only draught beer, not bottled beer. Their bottled beer is not cheap, and after 6pm their draft beer is most probably not cheap either.
But 2pm - 6pm all the draught beer you can drink. I know one dihig guy. He arrives sharp on starting time and drinks non stop until 6pm , gets bill , pays P150 precisely , no tip , not one centavo , packs his bags and then goes home on the Jeepney to his Filipino wife. Never drinks before or after starting time and never drinks anywhere else. Thats what I call devotion to beer and devotion to cutting costs. He is a highly intelligent person too , so the story about lost brain cells can't be right.
If your interested, and go to Ratsky's, make sure the Waiter understands your there to accept their offer of drinking all the draught beer you can to 6pm for P150.
The expat guys who hang around this time of the day , almost exclusively go home at 6pm when the cheap beer runs out. I tried Ratsky's offer , cause draught beer is my favourite, but I found the draught flat more times than not. They do not know how to present a good draught beer, but then I am fussy. Maurice of O'Flannagans Davao does know how to present a good draught beer. Trust an Irishman to know something about the subject of alcohol , ha ha.
This cheap beer at Ratsky's has been going on for at least two years to my knowledge and was still being offered last time I was in Cebu, fairly recently.
So, if you don't want to earn extra money as an Escort, here's a way to cut costs.
Oh, and the bad news. Waiters are almost exclusively gay. Apparently owner of Ratsky's is gay. Imagine the casting couch, ha ha.
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Hello All,
I'm Dr Slim and have been at this site for many years. I have probably posted less than a dozen times. I once critized one forum cause they were posting about anything and everything other than what this site is supposed to be about and got blasted by a few of you. I survived. I'll be in the Phils on business for 40 days and nights starting in the 1st week of June, mostly in Cebu.
On this trip, I plan on posting my day to day exploits to show some of you how it can be. I've always maintained that the Phils is heaven and there is no need to ever worry about getting some pudding there. No need to ever over pay, or even to have to pay for that matter. I am nearly 50 years old and was never good with women. Never a pick-up artist. But the last 10 years coming to the Phils twice yearly has changed my life. I feel like I'm a movie star when I'm there and I will hopefully retire there. I was married to a filipina and divorced and see no reason to ever marry again. I have kids. I cant see buying the cow again when I can get the milk for free, so-to-speak.
I'll arrive in Manila and spend 2 nights in Makati. I'll pay about 40 bucks a night in the best room at a 3 star hotel. I have stayed in 5 star places like Dusit and Mandarin many times, usually paying about 90 bucks a night but recently used BSA and Prince Plaza for 50. But those places are not as good as where I'll stay this time and I wont need to deal with elevators to high floors. I find asiatravel.com to have good prices and direct calling to the hotel can commonly get a promo rate. On this trip I direct called the hotel to make my reservation.
I have made a date with a filipina age 22, I met on myspace. She is a student from subic and will come meet me in makati upon my arrival. This will be a freebie except there are no freebies as I'll pay her bus both ways and all expenses and i'll buy her a bracelet or perfume as a parting gift. I chatted her many times with a cam. Her face is about a "6" and her body is a "10" if you like a petite A cup type filipina that has no celulite. If she flakes out, I have another myspacer as a back-up. She is 28 and seems less innocent than girl #1. Remains to be seem if she is a freebie as her attitude seems more like a semi-pro although our chat with cam has been completely wholesome. If both of these flake out, which is very, very common with the myspace girls, i'll stroll the mall trying to get some sales girls to accept some pre printed business cards with my cell number on it. If none of them text me by 9pn i'll just cruise greenbelt to see the action. If still I have not found my goal i'll go to one of the bars at greenbelt or think of something. I'm 99% sure I wont go to Burgos St but I could end up at EDSA.
I'll then go to Cebu where I'll meet up with another chatmate from Tagged. This is a sure thing as we have chatted for many months and have discussed what we'll do together. She is older, 29, than any girl i've hooked up with ever in the phils but in my old age i seem to want a girl who can hold a conversation and wont be texting her girlfriends every 10 minutes. She is probably a "6" in the face and a "7" in body but we have had great conversations that will surely continue in person. The best part about this girl is that she travels for work 2x a month from 7-8 days so I can spend some consistant time with her after her work, but while she is away, I can seek out my 3 other chatmates from the various web sites I go to. Yes, gentlemen, I do juggle several girls on each trip but so many of these "nice" girls get cold feet that I need to have a long phone list. None of these girls are my "girlfriend" and I make that clear. I do tell lies and I'm no angel but I practise safe sex and I treat them all with respect.
I'll be in Cebu for about 33 days and then head back to Makati for a few days before heading home. I'll post my experiences day by day if possible. I wont take any photos as I dont even bring my camera on these trips.
26 days and counting till I fly, I look forward to any of your comments.
As always,
Dr Slim
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26 days and counting till I fly, I look forward to any of your comments.
Hello Dr Slim,
Glad to see that you have decided to get on board and start posting in this thread regularly. Looking forward to your exploits as I'm sure most everybody here is too.
Excelsior!
I can see the Dr has the proper attitude for scoring and whoring in the Phils
All I can say is good luck, god bless 'em and party on!
Cebu is my new home so if you see a big ugly guy with a cute little filipina with blond hair that is probably me & Mrs Spamhog.
I for one look forward to a running daily account of your adventures.
Regards
Spamhog
Redfield10
05-15-07, 03:03
I know a woman here. However, am also wondering if there's any m ongering to be had either here or close by as I'm ay go visit. If so, what is the preferred way to go about it. Fly into, etc?
Thanks
There are a few reports on Tacloban in the "Other Areas" thread. P4P is available but it tends to be better as a meeting "normal" girls via internet contacts kind of destination.
If you're coming from Manila it's better to fly. From Cebu you can take the Supercat fast boat to Ormoc and then get some kind of ride across the island.
I'am going to cebu next week and I went to get some spending money and have been told that I can only take 10000 pesos in too the country. Is this right so is it better to take all travel checks. Can any one help me please.
Wow, where do you get this information? Is this the first time you've traveled out of your country?
I think the US has a rule that you can't take out 10,000 US dollars -- or if you do, you have to declare it. I'm not sure of the details, but the idea is to cut down on money laundering.
Take a credit card and bank card and as much cash as you need. Don't put all those eggs in one basket. Wallets do occasionaly disappear... Keep most of the cash in a safety deposit box. Other people may have different advice. I've always found traveler's checks to be a pain in the arse.
You don't say what currency you're starting out with, but it might be better to change your money in the Philippines rather than in your home country. The PI airports have money changers with reasonable rates. Get enough to get you thru the first day or two. When you do change money, always pay attention to what's going on and always count your money right there at the counter.
X Man
I'am going to cebu next week and I went to get some spending money and have been told that I can only take 10000 pesos in too the country. Is this right so is it better to take all travel checks. Can any one help me please.
You guys have it reversed. The rule for the PI is you can't take more than 10,000 pesos out of the PI. To get around that is easy, just change your leftover pesos back to dollars before you leave. There does not seem to be any rule about inbound currency.
The rule for the US is you must declare on the customs forms if you are bringing in at least USD$10,000 when arriving in the US. You can bring in more, you just have to declare it. You may also be asked to justify why you have that much cash. I don't recall if you have to declare if you're leaving the US with more than USD$10,000.
I'am going to cebu next week and I went to get some spending money and have been told that I can only take 10000 pesos in too the country. Is this right so is it better to take all travel checks. Can any one help me please.Here's a recent example of same day exchage rates. For purchases by my AMEX card I got P38.23 to A$1.00. Using an autoteller to deduct cash out of my home savings account by key card cost me a A$7.55 fee but I got P39.15
(P38.03 effectively). Money exchangers in the market for A$ cash, P38.90.
Bottom line, use AMEX or a credit card for big purchases and shop around the local money exchangers for the best rate.
Strange rule. Why?
I "try" to take back a few thousand pesos just so that I can get out of the airport a little quicker. Recently, I go to PI once a year, so that makes sense for me. I can't think of any good reason to take back more than 10,000 pesos, unless you are fugitive retiring to a new location...(Marcos?). I have never, ever been searched leaving a country. It doesn't happen unless there are special circumstances.
THanks Finrod for the detailed info about US currency laws. Since the original poster is flying direct to Cebu, I assume he is not from the US.
As far as I know, no US carrier flys direct to Cebu. I'm not sure many fly direct to Manila either.
Fortunately, I don't live in the US.
X Man
You guys have it reversed. The rule for the PI is you can't take more than 10,000 pesos out of the PI. To get around that is easy, just change your leftover pesos back to dollars before you leave. There does not seem to be any rule about inbound currency.
The rule for the US is you must declare on the customs forms if you are bringing in at least USD$10,000 when arriving in the US. You can bring in more, you just have to declare it. You may also be asked to justify why you have that much cash. I don't recall if you have to declare if you're leaving the US with more than USD$10,000.
Why are we exchanging info about money on the Cebu thread? I think there is a better thread for that and I apologize. I was tempted to diss the original poster, but he seemed so naive, I just couldn't help feeling sorry for him.
I apologize for polluting the Cebu thread with newbie stuff that should be posted elsewhere. As an apology, I will offer this pic, never before seen online.
It was taken a long time ago, so please don't waste our time by asking me for contact info.
She may, or my not be from Cebu. You decide...
X Man
BTW, if you are worried about your photos getting downloaded and shared infinitely, you would be better off to NOT post photos in the photo section.
I agree with X Man, this currency stuff doesn't belong in this thread, it should be in General Info instead. I suppose it wouldn't be too much to ask Jackson to move these posts there. Jackson?
Cherry Buster
05-29-07, 15:33
If ya long on money and short on time, then this Cebu post is for you. I noticed that a majority of the posts are geared towards trying to minimize the expended moolah but if you're traveling on business then time and quality of experience are A#1 priorities. Stop reading now if you're a localized expat searching for the best deals.
1) First of all, the Peso is relatively strong against the dollar right now but still 45-50peso/dollar means that all the posts about the outrageous bar fines of 6000pesos only equal 120USD. How much did you spend on dinner last night? $20, $30, $40? The average girl will go out with you for 1500pesos (30USD), but you might as well take your chances and start with the 6000peso girls and work your way down. YMMV of course, depending on luck, phase of the moon, and most importantly your companion picking skills. Start at the highest end clubs with the 6000peso girls like Arena (BF + girl but no tip included). It's not like you have to BF them. If you don't think it's worth it, then leave with little damage done but the quality of girls is only going to go down.
If you aren't looking for hardcore action, you can go to many of the clubs listed here and on other websites. Thunderdome is considered expensive but it's one possibility to find above average looking girls (6-8) dancing nekid. It's right in the middle of town. Not that it matters since Cebu is so small of a city with few major traffic jams. You could buy a ladies drink but if you're again short on time and found your soulmate dancing on stage, go straight to the VIP for 1500peso with 4 free drinks and snacks. No scams like you find in China as far as I know so it's only $30 for 1.5hrs of smooching, breast exams, singing (do you care?) etc. If you change your mind and want HC action, then the girl may be available for additional 1500peso but since I've never accepted the offer, I'm not sure if that includes BF.
2) You can book at the smallest Marriott I've been seen (i.e. Cebu Marriott), which is a nice hotel but hard to believe it really meets the standards of a Marriott. Price isn't very high though for a Marriott ($100-$200). It's kind of disconcerting walking through security with a different 19yo girl every night, but it shouldn't be a problem because I'm not sure how they can tell the difference between you and a ST date, or an expat with his much younger filipina wife. Think about the scene if they mistakenly ID'ed someone's wife as a ST date.
The location of Marriot is tops because taxis are plentiful and you are right next to the Ayala Mall where you can surf at Netopia, eat all kinds of food and watch old supersized white guys with 30-35yo cebuanas. Yes we should all envy them and admire their smarts at finding their own piece of paradise.
3) At the Cebu airport, you can listen to the touts and use the 375peso "limo" taxi which are right outside the exit or go up to the departure level and take a 125peso metered taxi to Cebu city. The metered taxis are not in the best of condition, though, and sometimes break down but eventually you'll have to use them to travel throughout the city.
4) Well I read about 10pages back and I don't think anyone has mentioned this gem of information. Are you craving for inexperienced school girls and don't mind the lack of experience (possibly resulting in dead fish syndrome)? If the answer is yes, try to find a cabbie fluent in english who knows about the university girls (19-21yo) north of the Uni of Visayas area. They all say they know young girls but you need to interrogate the cabbie to make sure he knows about these university students (well I think they are students) hidden down an alley full of dilapidated dormitories/houses. For a true gem, price is 2500peso + any tips you want to give the driver and girl. Maybe you can negotiate lower but I never felt the need considering the quality of the merchandise. One issue is that I'm not sure if the mamasan and girls will accept all punters so be on your best behavior. Most girls are not hardcore and I've always been with a local friend to get an introduction so think of it as a blind date. Not sure if the intro is required, though, since the girls come out enmasse so it's like an informal fishbowl. Due to the age of the girls, you should probably check their ID cards and you may not feel comfortable taking them thru the Marriott gauntlet, I mean lobby. Oh yea, early worm gets the best chicks. Go before 8pm.
5) Forget about trying to pickup non-pros at discos, malls, etc. Leave that to the local expats, not to mention these are average looking, slightly older girls usually. I've seen white haired guys hitting on lone girls or duos at SM mall. Usually they stand at the railings overlooking the lower floors. To me the pickings are slim to none. My suspicion is that the girls may also be preying on lonely old men for free dinners and maybe more. Hey doesn't sound so bad after all.
6) In terms of safety, it's very safe in Cebu for tourists, so look like a tourist at all times, even though you may be paying slightly more for stuff. I've had no problems with scams, no change returned annoyances, and runups of tabs at KTVs. The only thing I don't like is that cabbies and waiters will sometimes say they have no change. I think they want to some added profit because they know foreigners will allow them to keep the change or will accept bad exchange rate for dollars.
Summary: Marriott (eat and shop), Arena (can't miss here), Thunderdome (look and feel), Taxi to Uni area (relive your college dating days).
Cherry Buster, thanks for your report.
1) First of all, the Peso is relatively strong against the dollar right now but still 45-50peso/dollar means that all the posts about the outrageous bar fines of 6000pesos only equal 120USD. How much did you spend on dinner last night? $20, $30, $40? The average girl will go out with you for 1500pesos (30USD), but you might as well take your chances and start with the 6000peso girls and work your way down. YMMV of course, depending on luck, phase of the moon, and most importantly your companion picking skills. Start at the highest end clubs with the 6000peso girls like Arena (BF + girl but no tip included). It's not like you have to BF them. If you don't think it's worth it, then leave with little damage done but the quality of girls is only going to go down.
Many of the girls in Arena & Co. worked in 'normal' bars like Silverdollar or Lonestar before!
And I really doubt that the service is better in those japanese/korean-bars. Sure, maybe the girls look better. But what's the sense of a good looking girl if service is bad and she wants to leave after your first shot??
5) Forget about trying to pickup non-pros at discos, malls, etc.
Maybe this is true if you want to have a 100% guarantee that you can fuck on first night.
Otherwise it's no problem to approach young and good looking ladies anywhere (except rich ones of course, many of them can be found in Ayala), get their cell phone number and invite them for a meal. (And bang them eventually)
Cherry Buster
05-30-07, 15:53
Cherry Buster, thanks for your report.
Many of the girls in Arena & Co. worked in 'normal' bars like Silverdollar or Lonestar before!
And I really doubt that the service is better in those japanese/korean-bars. Sure, maybe the girls look better. But what's the sense of a good looking girl if service is bad and she wants to leave after your first shot??
Maybe this is true if you want to have a 100% guarantee that you can fuck on first night.
Otherwise it's no problem to approach young and good looking ladies anywhere (except rich ones of course, many of them can be found in Ayala), get their cell phone number and invite them for a meal. (And bang them eventually)
Yes you are correct. If the girl is experienced, it usually means that she has been to many bars listed here, but I think of it as survival of the fittest if they end up eventually at the high end joints.
And yes my post was all about 100% guaranteed action in the shortest period of time while spending lots of money.
Cherry Buster
05-31-07, 13:46
Joking
Senior Member
Reports: 44 Youve got it all wrong
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gee you've got it all wrong
uni girls ? what a laugh they were no uni girls they were P500 girls. know the area well since 1970's.
catch taxi at departures ? even in innocent cebu you can end up in trouble with OTHER than limo's at the airport.. you spend so big one way yet begrudge P300 extra another. I ended up at police station with departure taxi , and i have been catching taxis at cebu airport for 35yrs ! take limo everytime.
sorry , did not read all of your report , too typical of someone who does not know what he is doing and someone trying to impress. HOPE no one follows your report !
thunderdome ? oh no , help help !
sorry pal , youve got it all wrong , obviously you did not do any research before your trip .
Here's some feedback I got from Joking. I don't think he'll mind me posting it. You can decide whose post is more accurate. Everyone viewpoint is different and obviously Joking didn't even bother to read my 3rd sentence. Joking knows Cebu since the 1970's - OMG. I've been in Cebu for a grand total of 5days, and I guess my point is that time is more important than money for some people.
I don't understand what Joking is saying about the taxis. I don't prefer either the limo taxi or metered taxi at the airport, but my point is that the metered taxi is unavoidable later in Cebu so if you want, you can take it at the airport too. I wonder what Joking does for a taxi when he's in Cebu City? Look for a limo airport taxi? hehe
Thunderdome doesn't look that good inside and the mama-san was a bit pushy but that didn't stop me from having a lot of good clean fun there. Others can probably verify but I think the girls there are a solid 6-8 just like I said. That's on a scale of 10 where 5 is an average girl. The VIP rooms aren't bad but not very private.
Finally about the girl not being a university girl. It's possible since she said she'd been in the city for only 3weeks, but didn't I already state that they might not be uni girls??? All the girls did look 19-21yo though and I do think most attend university or try to. Since I said to use a taxi (but it's probably going to be metered so be careful according to Joking - hehe), you can have the taxi go in and back out if you don't find the mama-san with uni girls. It won't take long to check out the entire area. They'll be many other taxis doing the same thing.
CB
Cherry buster, don't listen to joking. I haven't been off cebu in years, and you got most of it right. Except for netopia. Unfortunately there are no good internet cafes in the ayala area, so next time bring your laptop and surf in the marriott lobby, they have wifi.
Thunderdome and arena are places where you have to pay up, but the pampering you get from all the waiters and girls and mamasan is worth it. Like you said, not for those who want to minimize expenditure, but if you can afford it, it's a great place to have a good time, relax, and forget about the problems in the world.
Jack
Hello All,
Here is my 1st post of my 40 trip to the PI, hopefully to be followed by many more.
Day 1
I landed in Manila after an uneventful flight and went to my hotel in Makati. I had called a month earlier and booked a room. To my disapointment, the hotel gave away my room without an explanation and offered a standard room which I passed on. I should note that this is a small hotel and the superior rooms are very nice, but the standard are bad. I went to my online travel agent and settled on the BSA. It cost me 65 per night rather than 45 but what the hell, its a much nicer room.
I then texted my 1st choice girl from a chat room, an 18 year old "good" girl who told me that she needed to get permission from her aunty. After 3 phone calls, it was a no go. I may need to explain that for several years I have been avoiding pros and trying for girls I've met in chat rooms and places like myspace. Its not that I dont like pros, but I been there done that and have every intention of doing pros again, but my hobby has changed to trying to pick up girls for free (as if there is such thing as free) or finding them at friendster and myspace and using my wit and charm rather than my wallet.
So then I went to my 2nd choice, a girl that chatted me every day for weeks but disapeared after she got a boyfriend. Two days before my trip she messaged me saying she was now single. She dropped me like a hot potato but now she needed me, poor baby. So I was gonna get her into my hotel for a romp, then the next day I'd do the disappearing act on her. I think she smelled a rat and said she's meet me another day. My 3rd choice was a girl I chatted for a few weeks 2 months ago, but I ended it with her when she asked me for money for the electric bill. You got to be kidding me. She was really hot and had a tongue pierce, but when they ask for money i'm gone. I dont care how hot they are, there are too many out there to be worried. She must have remembered my travel date cause she texted me the day before my flight asking if I was still mad at her. I told her no, cause I wasnt mad, I just dont give money to strangers. But I got her cell number and told her I'd call. I did and told her there was no money for her but if she wanted to come over to my hotel she could. She asked for 200 taxi fare and I told her she could have 400 but not to ask for a penny more. She agreed. She came at 11pm and did everything I asked her to do with enthusiasm. GFE all the way. I'm really happy we hooked up. I lied to her and told her I was going to Cebu today instead of tomorrow. She wanted to go to Cebu with me but I have too many adventures to set up in Cebu. So despite the fantastic sex, I sent her home.
Day 2
Today I met another chatmate. She came down from Subic. Another "good" girl who I talked into coming down by bus. She spent all day with me and I just dropped her back at the bus for her 3 hour return trip. Gentlemen, I suppose I struck out with this girl. We layed in bed and had a make out session for several hours but she would not even let my hands roam.
It reminded me of junior high. We ate at the mall and she would not even take bus fare which we agreed upon earlier. Unfortuneatly, she is less good looking that I previously rated her but its just part of life. I doubt I'll see her again. So, tomorrow I fly to Cebu and the adventures continue.
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Dr Love
i look fwdto more installments. im trying to do the same with AFF now. but i only have 2 nights to do good bad girls in manila until i travel to cebu to see a GF.
I JUST WANT A CHANGE FROM BARGIRLS.
Day 3 of a 40 day trip to the Phils:
My 31 year old Cebuana chatmate picked me up at the airport and we went to the hotel. I have a 30k monthly rate at a uptown location near Ayala. We then went to eat at the mall and back to my place to get to know each other. She is a "good girl" with a good job and has had 2 boyfriends for 2 years each with whom she had sex but both ended. She tried to resist my advances but gave in and we had a good time. She could not stay the night but left at 9:30pm. She still lives with her parents. She took a shirt of mine home with her to replace a button that fell off. She is about 10 lbs overweight but nice body and ok face. She is not my dream girl but she will be cool to hang out with. The best thing is that she works 6 days a week till 5pm and goes on a ten day trip for work evey month so i'll have plenty of free time away from her to investigate other sources of pleasure.
Day 4,
My Cebuana fetched me at the hotel and we spent the day running errands and eating and seeing a movie. It was 140peso for the movie each. Is it my imagination? Or has the price doubled since I was last here. Anyway, 3 bucks is still a bargain for a movie. I took a rest day from sex today fellas. I'll survive. Tomorrow I'll meet a 20 year old cutie for lunch and see if she wants to see what my hotel room looks like. Wish me luck.
Professional
06-05-07, 08:01
Sorry but I am confused I am reading conflicting report about hotels in Cebu some say eddies hotel is great some say it's a dupe other recommend Kiwi lodge still other hate it. What hotel in Cebu gives the best value for the dollar? Clean, girl friendly, good location and reasonably priced (say up to 2000 peso lower would be better). Mainly I am looking for biggest bang for the buck. Don't really mind spending more if I get better value in it.
Thanks
Sorry but I am confused I am reading conflicting report about hotels in Cebu some say eddies hotel is great some say it's a dupe other recommend Kiwi lodge still other hate it. What hotel in Cebu gives the best value for the dollar? Clean, girl friendly, good location and reasonably priced (say up to 2000 peso lower would be better). Mainly I am looking for biggest bang for the buck. Don't really mind spending more if I get better value in it.
ThanksI my opinion Eddies is not good value. Rooms are small and I walk out of the restaurant. While it wont help availablity, Casa Rosario just a short way away is miles better, spotless and freindly for 50% less.
Sorry but I am confused I am reading conflicting report about hotels in Cebu some say eddies hotel is great some say it's a dupe other recommend Kiwi lodge still other hate it. What hotel in Cebu gives the best value for the dollar? Clean, girl friendly, good location and reasonably priced (say up to 2000 peso lower would be better).
Never been to Eddies hotel so I cannot comment but it is one of the cheapest hotels around and the location is good. I do agree with Johnr in that Casa Rosario would be on my short list of good values but I don't think it is 50% less than Eddies.
Stayed at Kiwi Lodge a few months ago and I would also include it on my short list. The rooms are clean (never saw any roaches) and the food was good. They were building an addition which should be done soon. Their bar is a good place to meet like minded mongers. The only drawback I can see with Kiwi, is that the location could be better. If you are thinking about trying Kiwi Lodge, make sure you reserve a room well in advance.
Professional
06-07-07, 04:23
Thank you Mattrick and Johnr. I think I will give Casa Rosario a try I will give a report when I get back but it will not be until next year (I am planning early)
Thanks again you guy!!
Titi Tigas
06-07-07, 14:33
I saw several reports on value hotels. What about top-quality hotels in Cebu City (not Mactan Island)? I have stayed at the Waterfront Hotel/Casino in Lahug a few times, and liked it moderately well. But the last two times I went, the internet was unreliable. Any other recommendations?
I have a high budget, so price is not an issue. I will be meeting a couple of different girls I met from dating sites, MySpace, friendster, and previous trips: *NOT* bargirls. So, I would like an upscale place with reliable internet in the rooms, very chica-friendly, close to nice restaurants, and preferably a way to bring the shy girls up to my room without them being noticed by security. At the Waterfront, the security guard standing right by the elevator scared some of the girls, esp. when they were still wearing their school uniforms. If you go up the second floor at the Waterfront, you canNOT get on the elevators there. But I liked the fact that the Waterfront had a travel agency on site that could arrange boating, snorkeling, touring, etc. The casino, nice pool, and breakfast buffets were also pluses at the Waterfront. By those criteria, how do the Marriot and Marco Polo compare with the Waterfront Lahug? Any other choices?
I saw several reports on value hotels. What about top-quality hotels in Cebu City (not Mactan Island)? I have stayed at the Waterfront Hotel/Casino in Lahug a few times, and liked it moderately well. But the last two times I went, the internet was unreliable. Any other recommendations?
Hello TT,
Why not try the new Crown Regency? We have yet to get a report about this new hotel located just off Osmena Circle. www.crownregency.com/hotel/index.php
Titi Tigas
06-08-07, 16:55
Hello TT,
Why not try the new Crown Regency? We have yet to get a report about this new hotel located just off Osmena Circle. www.crownregency.com/hotel/index.php
Thanks Mattrick. I never even heard of that one: I only knew about Waterfront, Marriot, and Marco-Polo in the "upscale Cebu City" category. Thanks! I will check it out asap.
Titi Tigas
06-08-07, 17:15
Why not try the new Crown Regency? ...
I couldn't find any reviews at tripadvisor.com, and their Web site didn't show pictures of the lobby or the pool. Basically, I want:
- a nice place where the whole experience will impress the girls I bring
- a good breakfast buffet
- reliable internet
- a nice pool
- girl-friendly environment
- Cebu City (not Mactan) location
- Price *not* an issue
Without reviews from anyone who actually tried the Crown Regency, I don't think their Web site convinces me that I should risk it. So I will stick with Waterfront Lahug, Marriot, or Marco Polo until someone with personal experience suggests differently.
Anyone who as been to both the Marriot and the Waterfront want to compare?
Im staying at the Parklane on June 24th for 3800p per night. I will file a report after staying there.
When i come back from up north I will be staying at KiwiLodge for 1200p per night. The owner will even store my bags that i dont want to lug up north with me and my laptop which i dont want to leave unattended in a filopino barangay.
I couldn't find any reviews at tripadvisor.com, and their Web site didn't show pictures of the lobby or the pool. Anyone who as been to both the Marriot and the Waterfront want to compare?
Thats because this hotel is brand new and the reviews are not in yet. We have discussed this topic before and I would give the edge to the Waterfront based on your criteria. But why not stay at the Marriot this time so you can make the comparison yourself?
I was in the Temptation Club lately and was told by some girls they dance naked there sometimes. They lock the door first :-)
According to a girl in the Viking bar they do this between 1 and 3 a.m. (in Temptation, not in Viking).
Interesting development! Can somebody confirm this? And is Temptation the only club where they do this or are there any more?
Hello All,
Day 5...I met a 20 year old chatmate that is as pretty as a model and slender build. We met in Ayala then went to the Convention Center to the Chinese restaurant there which a buffet lunch with peking duck and great ribs assorted salads and too much food to mention, price about 325 pesos, great deal. I then invited this little cutie to my place and she agreed. We turned on the tv and every 5 minutes or so I reached over to kiss her. Each kiss got a bit more intense till we were making out like 2 school kids. But she would stop every few minutes and make me wait a while. I soon realized it was not going to go further and after the HBO movie ended, she left for home. No nookie.
Day 6: Same girl text me in the morning and asked if we could meet. I was busy but agreed to meet at 1pm. After coffee, we went to my place again and we resumed the cat and mouse game till I just had enough and stopped bothering her. I cannot be making out with a chick and not go further. My biology doesnt work that way. So I left her alone and we watch tv till she needed to go. I said bye-bye and have not seen her since. She text me for 2 days asking if there was something wrong. I said no, nothing wrong, I'm just excersizing my right to move on. I dont care how cute a girl is, if she wont put out, she better at least be a conversationalist of be able to make me laugh with her sense of humor. She had nothing so I nipped it in the bud. I then began to call some pro girls I know who are wonderful at their craft but got no responses and went to sleep hungry a 2nd night. NOTE: I am trying to meet just "good girls" on this trip but my plan is back firing slightly so I am changing course to some pros in order to get my balance back.
Day 7: None of my pros are returning calls so I decide to go for some sleaze. I head over to Hearts massage on Gorordo. 350 peso for massage which is just a shoulder rub then a hj for 500 tip. Ahhhhh, I'm almost feeling human. Most of this day spent doing business.
Day 8: One pro girl returns a call and comes over for an AM roll in the sack. Served her purpose, nothing great, i'll delete her number. 500 pesos, how bad can it be?
Day 9: A chat mate who is surely not a "good girl" came to the hotel and totally exhausted me. Front, back, left side, right side, upside down, this girl needed it badly. Greatest bj in years. The last time was with me on the bottom and her riding and masterbating furiously. She used to be a true "10" but now has gained 40 pounds and her frame cannot handle it. Huge tits. She needs a 20 year old guy, I'm almost 50. Gave her some hand cream (I brought 6 bottles hand cream and 10 large cadbury bars for gifts) and a chocolate bar and 200 pesos jeepney fare and she was happy. She want me to meet her next saturday night at a bar with a live band but I will pass.
Tomorow is Sunday and I'll be entertaining a gorgeous 21 year old "good girl" from Leyte whom I've been chasing for 2 full years. Even went to Leyte to visit her and meet her parents. Yah, call me sucker. But she lives in Cebu now, and last night and I took her to dinner. She is growing up and we agreed that as long as we dont go "all the way" she'll try and make me happy. Shes a real keeper, very pretty and petite with those wonderful larger B cups that I'm dying to squeeze. Great sense of humor and nice to talk to. If she does not make me cum in one form or another, I'll send her home and call another pro who finally returned my text, she was in the provinces. Wish me luck.
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The Marriott was nice (3. 5 stars). I have not stayed at the Waterfront or MP. I got the impression that both of those hotels (4 stars) were better quality than the Marriott. HOWEVER, it is hard to beat the location of the Marriott. It is about 100 meters to an entrance to the Ayala Mall. It is also right next to the Ayala Jeepney Station which makes it easy for any girl to come directly to the hotel or meet you walking distance away at Ayala. Also, easy to get a filipina to come from Ayala to Marriott. I was at the Marriott November 3-10th 2006. That was right before the ASEAN summit in Cebu so Security was tight coming into the hotel. But no security by the elevator. Also, you can go sit out by the pool bar and come in the basement and look like you are going to the lobby by elevator and just go straight to the room. I did that myself a few times to make the girls comfortable. They have wired broadband in the rooms and wireless in the lobby. The connection was stable and fast enough. I also connected my VoIP router (like vonage) inline with the computer and received and made phone calls just like I was at home. I used that to call the girls since it was just 21 cents a minute to their cell phones.
If you want to have a fantastic meal or really impress a date take her to MP to eat. It was the best meal I had in HK or Philippines. MP is probably the best hotel of the 3 but it's location is good for a view but is a couple of miles out of the way. Waterfront is a good location but not like the Marriott. Waterfornt is exactly 1/2 mile from Ayala and Marriott.
I think I answered your questions. I will stay at the Marriott the next time I go.
Dfrankmd
I saw several reports on value hotels. What about top-quality hotels in Cebu City (not Mactan Island)? I have stayed at the Waterfront Hotel/Casino in Lahug a few times, and liked it moderately well. But the last two times I went, the internet was unreliable. Any other recommendations?
I have a high budget, so price is not an issue. I will be meeting a couple of different girls I met from dating sites, MySpace, friendster, and previous trips: *NOT* bargirls. So, I would like an upscale place with reliable internet in the rooms, very chica-friendly, close to nice restaurants, and preferably a way to bring the shy girls up to my room without them being noticed by security. At the Waterfront, the security guard standing right by the elevator scared some of the girls, esp. when they were still wearing their school uniforms. If you go up the second floor at the Waterfront, you canNOT get on the elevators there. But I liked the fact that the Waterfront had a travel agency on site that could arrange boating, snorkeling, touring, etc. The casino, nice pool, and breakfast buffets were also pluses at the Waterfront. By those criteria, how do the Marriot and Marco Polo compare with the Waterfront Lahug? Any other choices?
Dashing Don
06-22-07, 06:47
Folks, I'm in Manila now, doing the usual combination of hookers and chatmates. What is becoming an increasing pain in the ass, is scheduling times to meet the girls. Reason being, it can take up to three hours for a girl to get from Quezon city to Makati, where I'm staying. This means that I'm in a kind of holding pattern for hours while I get contstant texts, 'Im on the MRT now', and 'I'm close', etc. Also, because of the travel time, you can't just get a girl to 'come on over right now'. Its a big deal for them to come, due to the traffic.
My question is this: do the Cebu city girls have an easier and shorter commute, thus making it easy to schedule them, or even spontaneously call them at maybe an hour's notice? Or do they come in from great distances as well? For ex., when they say on their profiles that they are from Cebu, is it really Cebu or is miles away. And how big is Cebu anyway. Could it take several hours for a chatmate to arrive from a different part of the city?
I've been to Cebu before and found it cleaner and less hectic than Manila, its just not easy to get there in a single shot from the East coast of the US and thats why I never seriously considered it as a base.
All responses valued,
Fast Eddie 48
06-22-07, 16:43
Folks, I'm in Manila now, doing the usual combination of hookers and chatmates. What is becoming an increasing pain in the ass, is scheduling times to meet the girls. Reason being, it can take up to three hours for a girl to get from Quezon city to Makati, where I'm staying. This means that I'm in a kind of holding pattern for hours while I get contstant texts, 'Im on the MRT now', and 'I'm close', etc. Also, because of the travel time, you can't just get a girl to 'come on over right now'. Its a big deal for them to come, due to the traffic.
My question is this: do the Cebu city girls have an easier and shorter commute, thus making it easy to schedule them, or even spontaneously call them at maybe an hour's notice? Or do they come in from great distances as well? For ex., when they say on their profiles that they are from Cebu, is it really Cebu or is miles away. And how big is Cebu anyway. Could it take several hours for a chatmate to arrive from a different part of the city?
I've been to Cebu before and found it cleaner and less hectic than Manila, its just not easy to get there in a single shot from the East coast of the US and thats why I never seriously considered it as a base.
All responses valued,To Dashing Don,
Yes cebu city is a small area compare to manila much less traffic unless the girl is from the other side of the island like Moaboal area, but I think chatmate girl is a big waste of time if you don't have more than a week is better just to p4p.
I go to cebu 2 time a yr from SFO I take cathay pacific they have direct flightfrom Hong Kong twice a day 1 hr 30 min.
Fast eddie 48
Cebu will reduce the problem by 50%, but it's still there. If you're in central Cebu and she's coming from Mactan Island or Mandaue, tell here to take a taxi and that you'll pay for it. That should get you down to less than an hour. Naturally you want to be there when the taxi arrives. I once made a mistake thinking that the woman would pay the taxi and I would pay her back. Duh, she didn't have the money and sat in the taxi waiting for me.
Some will ignore you and take jeepneys. Expect to wait a while. They have no concept about how valuable your vacation time is.
X Man
Folks, I'm in Manila now, doing the usual combination of hookers and chatmates. What is becoming an increasing pain in the ass, is scheduling times to meet the girls. Reason being, it can take up to three hours for a girl to get from Quezon city to Makati, where I'm staying. This means that I'm in a kind of holding pattern for hours while I get contstant texts, 'Im on the MRT now', and 'I'm close', etc. Also, because of the travel time, you can't just get a girl to 'come on over right now'. Its a big deal for them to come, due to the traffic.
My question is this: do the Cebu city girls have an easier and shorter commute, thus making it easy to schedule them, or even spontaneously call them at maybe an hour's notice? Or do they come in from great distances as well? For ex., when they say on their profiles that they are from Cebu, is it really Cebu or is miles away. And how big is Cebu anyway. Could it take several hours for a chatmate to arrive from a different part of the city?
I've been to Cebu before and found it cleaner and less hectic than Manila, its just not easy to get there in a single shot from the East coast of the US and thats why I never seriously considered it as a base.
All responses valued,
It is still a great place to go, especially during the day. I was there two weeks ago, can recommend # 50 and 24.
Both girls fulfilled all my wished, one including posing for pictures. Just go in the room, undress and wait for the girl you selected at the entrance. Then suggest to shower together. She will even there start to suck you .... just go from there.
Enjoy,
SumartHi Sumart
Where is this place in Cebu?
Dashing Don
06-25-07, 10:54
Usually, I'll bang out 20 identical emails to girls on FFF or FH right before a trip, with my cell number included. After arriving, I respond to these typically cryptic texts.
FFF girl: Halooooooo
DD: Hi, its me, Don, from FFF
FFF: Oh, hi Don. Are you here in my country?
DD: I certainly am, and I can't wait to see you.
FFF: Ooooohh. Where are you?
DD: Im at the ShangriLa. Can you come over. I'm dying to see you in person
FFF: Ok. Im coming. I have to take a shower.
:)
After that, its anyone's guess what will happen, although I usually suggest a massage in my room. Haha.
Ok, I will definitely try Cebu next time, probably August, although it means that I have to overnight in HKG, coming and going.
I had some good experiences with the chatters, both this time and last (march). If I felt like banging them, I usually got to. Have to spend more time screening out the not-so-good looking ones on YM before going away though. Im usually lazy about that. Also, the ninteen and twenty year olds always seem to bring family members which dampens my enthusiasm despite their freshness. Laziness again. But there's always the bargirls.
Don
FireWalker
06-25-07, 11:39
Ok, I will definitely try Cebu next time, probably August, although it means that I have to overnight in HKG, coming and going.
Don
You can get fairly cheap flights from Clark-Cebu-Clark on Cebu Pacific Air, if you want to do Cebu and Angeles. Only about an hour flight.
DD, you need to keep better records....although I always have the same problem.
X: Where are you?
miss: net cafe
(or even worse)
X: Where are you?
miss: Philippines
X: where in the Philippines?
miss: Visayans
X: yes, but where exactly?
miss: south of Manila
Usually, I'll bang out 20 identical emails to girls on FFF or FH right before a trip, with my cell number included. After arriving, I respond to these typically cryptic texts.
FFF girl: Halooooooo
DD: Hi, its me, Don, from FFF
FFF: Oh, hi Don. Are you here in my country?
DD: I certainly am, and I can't wait to see you.
FFF: Ooooohh. Where are you?
DD: Im at the ShangriLa. Can you come over. I'm dying to see you in person
FFF: Ok. Im coming. I have to take a shower.
:)
Don
Hello friends. I'll get to Cebu later this afternoon and I'll be staying in the Marriott. I hope to see anybody who's in town.
Mahku, I'll arrive MLA July 9. I hope you're still in Phil then. If so, just pm me and we can exchange contact info.
X Man
Hello friends. I'll get to Cebu later this afternoon and I'll be staying in the Marriott. I hope to see anybody who's in town.
I will be visiting cebu city in August thanks for all the info on this site. I have a real estate questions. Is it safe to buy a condo here or another type complex like tower palace. Should I have an attorney I don't want to get riped off. I'm nervous about my money being stolen I am usa citizen. Thanks again. My brief report on my trip in may. First got ripped off at the arena seems like 2 differnt menus. Silver dollar, found a girl that was the best I've had not much other talent though. The viking bars seem to have the best talent. Sunflower is still fun disco and also went to a complex called paseo? It looks like a fun place to bring a date. I will give you another trip report in August thanks.
Cebu isn't really a condo place relative to Manila but Club Ultima in particular is in a good location and should do well but its a way off to be finished, a year or so.
For me I wouldn't buy one until it was completed I could inspect it and move in immediately and preferably wait a year or rent until you knew for sure the place was sound, but the King brothers should do a good job. I am considering it.
I just don't like the membership bit. Monthly dues etc. Don't get me wrong Club Ultima facilities are first class and the place is well run. Prices are reasonable to high.
Another vote for Silver Dollar. Sure in the looks department they are not up to USDA or Angeles relative standards but the ladies are ready to get down to business and I mean down at your room or the nearest short time hotel. Been to Viking and upstairs BG and agree that the stable ladies represent good value in Cebu and the place is well run and is popular among local expats and whorists alike.
As to Paseo thanks for the reminder I heard about this new night life area but passed because it was too new then; I will check it out upon my return.
There are so many interesting places to hang out in Cebu, you can change up your routine daily for a month and everything is under a 100 peso taxi ride from Fuente where there is an absolute abundance of hotels and better valued pension houses within a half mile radius. Just pull out a map head to an area get off the taxi when you see high density of ladies and go for a stroll.
Stroll usually equals 3 blocks in two directions and another taxi between visiting a cafe or eatery and a mall and chatting up a few ladies. I am amazed how most ladies even the ladies at the Waterfront Hotel who when we chat bring up the topic of your love life, so don't worry it will come up or hints in discussion soon enough.
Get a cell. Bring your calling cards, and go for a stroll. But as previously stated downtown during the day is an absolute buffet of ladies, who are not pretending to be shopping just looking for a warm hearted kano. Well warm blooded and breathing for sure, so far.
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FireWalker
06-28-07, 22:31
I will be visiting cebu city in August thanks for all the info on this site. I have a real estate questions. Is it safe to buy a condo here or another type complex like tower palace. Should I have an attorney I don't want to get riped off. I'm nervous about my money being stolen I am usa citizen. Thanks again. My brief report on my trip in may. First got ripped off at the arena seems like 2 differnt menus. Silver dollar, found a girl that was the best I've had not much other talent though. The viking bars seem to have the best talent. Sunflower is still fun disco and also went to a complex called paseo? It looks like a fun place to bring a date. I will give you another trip report in August thanks.
I suggest you don't buy, at least for a long while. You can rent pretty much anything. There really isn't much benefit for you to buy real estate.
I am a long time travelor to Cebu. I agree with the below comments, but for the "Viking and upstairs BG." Many of my friends were disappointed with the out the door 1700bf. Although they argue it includes the "tip" most, if not all, my friends complained of poor service. I have learned you provide a tip after services have been rendered, and based on the quality of the service.
As for the BG, terrible experience there last time I was in Cebu (April). When I turned down the possiblity of a bf and told them I was leaveing the mamsan became extremely angry. She actually started ragging I must be gay, asked me if I wanted to barfine the bartender (a male).
I simply walked out, did not even finish my drink.
You have been warned.
Cebu isn't really a condo place relative to Manila but Club Ultima in particular is in a good location and should do well but its a way off to be finished, a year or so.
For me I wouldn't buy one until it was completed I could inspect it and move in immediately and preferably wait a year or rent until you knew for sure the place was sound, but the King brothers should do a good job. I am considering it.
I just don't like the membership bit. Monthly dues etc. Don't get me wrong Club Ultima facilities are first class and the place is well run. Prices are reasonable to high.
Another vote for Silver Dollar. Sure in the looks department they are not up to USDA or Angeles relative standards but the ladies are ready to get down to business and I mean down at your room or the nearest short time hotel. Been to Viking and upstairs BG and agree that the stable ladies represent good value in Cebu and the place is well run and is popular among local expats and whorists alike.
As to Paseo thanks for the reminder I heard about this new night life area but passed because it was too new then; I will check it out upon my return.
There are so many interesting places to hang out in Cebu, you can change up your routine daily for a month and everything is under a 100 peso taxi ride from Fuente where there is an absolute abundance of hotels and better valued pension houses within a half mile radius. Just pull out a map head to an area get off the taxi when you see high density of ladies and go for a stroll.
Stroll usually equals 3 blocks in two directions and another taxi between visiting a cafe or eatery and a mall and chatting up a few ladies. I am amazed how most ladies even the ladies at the Waterfront Hotel who when we chat bring up the topic of your love life, so don't worry it will come up or hints in discussion soon enough.
Get a cell. Bring your calling cards, and go for a stroll. But as previously stated downtown during the day is an absolute buffet of ladies, who are not pretending to be shopping just looking for a warm hearted kano. Well warm blooded and breathing for sure, so far.
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Bill
I agree with you. the new all incl rates are all over the place. i think sisters is the most reasonable at 2000. blackhole was 2650, lonestar 2800 and dimples 2600 i think.
the most reasonable and realistic i found this trip was tinas darkened bar at 700 plus girls tip. with the all new incl I found most girls want to leave after the deed is done.
I have had better experiences in the past with the old payy the bf/pay the girl. i think the clubs might be ripping off the girls too as the dimples told me she only gets 500p. but i found a real rough in the needlestack at blackhole and she is just so horny. but i feel the rates are outragoues as i treat the girls fairly nice.
i return to manila today.
I too found the same at BG and Viking and dont rate at all. I told the Mamasan at Viking as well - I reported on Cebu Life site. Silver Dollar girls a bit big for me but can be fun. The place is a letdown though as a narrow, long bar and nowhere for action.
I consider Liza's in Mandaue and Lone Star to be the best fun. You have to choose carefully at the latter and the girls at the former can be very naughty - bj in the bar last time I was there. Depends if any locals around as they become shy then.
Arrived last Thursday so I'm renewing aquaintances at the moment!!
Yeah I wouldn't doubt it one could have a bad experience at Vikings or at any GRO club in Cebu but as we all know things/people change week to week in clubs.
My post made it clear that Cebu isn't up to par with Angeles or LA Cafe, Edsa for that matter. I don't like my words being repeated in your post as the amount of posts on this board is small enough and your point relative to my entire post is moot.
I spoke of my experience in Viking or BG or Silverdollar or other bars as a patron drinking a few San Mig's with my curious gf feeling the vibe of the place, noticing the ladies and playing some pool. I found the ladies at Viking to be very respectfull not pushing drinks nor trying to get a barfine whilst I was with my lady. Some other bars I won't mention here because imop it just isn't worth bashing anyone bar.
I was in Vikings three to four times because it was busy with expats, the vibe was good and the lineup was fine, the pool tables suck. Saying that I felt a better vibe and ambiance from SilverDollar althought the ladies were not as fine I went there more often. Ambiance for a person with time matters most.
Most agree Cebu in general sucks when it comes to value for your money for GRO's. For those on a limited time who want to get best bang for their buck with GRO's I would skip Cebu. I didn't explore the many massage parlors, the limited street action etc. But the P4P scene is lacking overall. This view is expressed in detail with an expert in the field at whorist.com I am not an expert by no means.
Did see Tina's downtown near McSherry's but didn't stop in. Might do next time. I was only there at night twice whilst visiting some fellow Canucks whom I bumped into at Vikings. Their base of operations however was near Tina's.
I did do a memory trip around the block Mercedes alas a big change in price, in 2001 at 299p and visited that barber shop across the street. Gonzo. To tell you the truth, this sleazy area overall didn't seem like a total security risk to me if one is with a buddy. I think it is a good place for cheap charlies seeking lower priced ladies. Just not my cup of tea.
On a different note, I am recommending Friendster as a great place to meet the many normal ladies that are to be found in abundance anywhere in the Phil. I understand that there are five million Pinoys online there. I also recommend FH but having several pics to look at is a better view of their figure than their best face pic they display. However I see a problem if they find out all your friends on friendster and start contacting them so I will close my friendster account shortly upon my arrival which also remains a secret as does which pension house I stay at. Thats another disadvantage of being a player and owning real estate / condo in the Phil. Harder to move around if need be.
I have already lined up a bakers dozen and I will be well stocked with fine ladies for the next eight months as soon as the Canadian winter sets in and I return to Cebu. My entire stable of four gf's came entirely from FH and this came from a larger selection of ladies which one interviews between ladies.
If you have the time, the game and enough residual income Cebu is hard to beat all things considered, minus the GRO's. If GRO's are your game, time is limited head straight to Angeles until your back up sperm accumalation problem has been dealt with.
But don't get me wrong, I probably could have saved money if I stayed in Angeles with GRO's relative to the cost of keeping a GF, but I like that headspace.
CEBU has a fine stable of women. One can find a decent GF for a month or longer in a great physical environment with adequate infrastructure to keep one in creature comforts any day of the week for quite a few years to come. Amen.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I will take cebu over makati any day of the week. You can get same lame girls for 1/3 off the price and drinks also.
Wander Luster
07-04-07, 05:14
I will be visiting cebu city in August thanks for all the info on this site. I have a real estate questions. Is it safe to buy a condo here or another type complex like tower palace. Should I have an attorney I don't want to get riped off. I'm nervous about my money being stolen I am usa citizen. Thanks again. My brief report on my trip in may. First got ripped off at the arena seems like 2 differnt menus. Silver dollar, found a girl that was the best I've had not much other talent though. The viking bars seem to have the best talent. Sunflower is still fun disco and also went to a complex called paseo? It looks like a fun place to bring a date. I will give you another trip report in August thanks.
Be VERY worried about any RE transaction. I ran a biz there for 3 years. #1 prob was the lease I signed. In the US I would have sued landlord. Not an option for me with him (i'm back in usa). He's got me by the balls. Real Estate is soooo different there. Throw away ideas of property/lease/renting/buying in the US.
You would think that a good attorney could watch out for you and make sure the contract is fair for both sides.
Fastpiston
07-06-07, 06:41
Be VERY worried about any RE transaction. I ran a biz there for 3 years. #1 prob was the lease I signed. In the US I would have sued landlord. Not an option for me with him (i'm back in usa). He's got me by the balls. Real Estate is soooo different there. Throw away ideas of property/lease/renting/buying in the US.
Think hard before you buy:
Do you really want to be in ONE PLACE: flexibility, neighbor problems, earthquakes?
Do you want to invest in Philippine Peso?
In Phils. services and maintenance of a condo can deteriorate.
Can you sell the condo in the future when and if you want to get your money back?
Why not invest you money somewhere and use income to pay rent? That way you can always access your money when you want to.
Perhaps you misunderstood the purpose of my post, i.e., to alert other mongers of some "bumps in the road" - one of the essential functions of this board.
Yeah I wouldn't doubt it one could have a bad experience at Vikings or at any GRO club in Cebu but as we all know things/people change week to week in clubs.
My post made it clear that Cebu isn't up to par with Angeles or LA Cafe, Edsa for that matter. I don't like my words being repeated in your post as the amount of posts on this board is small enough and your point relative to my entire post is moot.
I spoke of my experience in Viking or BG or Silverdollar or other bars as a patron drinking a few San Mig's with my curious gf feeling the vibe of the place, noticing the ladies and playing some pool. I found the ladies at Viking to be very respectfull not pushing drinks nor trying to get a barfine whilst I was with my lady. Some other bars I won't mention here because imop it just isn't worth bashing anyone bar.
I was in Vikings three to four times because it was busy with expats, the vibe was good and the lineup was fine, the pool tables suck. Saying that I felt a better vibe and ambiance from SilverDollar althought the ladies were not as fine I went there more often. Ambiance for a person with time matters most.
Most agree Cebu in general sucks when it comes to value for your money for GRO's. For those on a limited time who want to get best bang for their buck with GRO's I would skip Cebu. I didn't explore the many massage parlors, the limited street action etc. But the P4P scene is lacking overall. This view is expressed in detail with an expert in the field at whorist.com I am not an expert by no means.
Did see Tina's downtown near McSherry's but didn't stop in. Might do next time. I was only there at night twice whilst visiting some fellow Canucks whom I bumped into at Vikings. Their base of operations however was near Tina's.
I did do a memory trip around the block Mercedes alas a big change in price, in 2001 at 299p and visited that barber shop across the street. Gonzo. To tell you the truth, this sleazy area overall didn't seem like a total security risk to me if one is with a buddy. I think it is a good place for cheap charlies seeking lower priced ladies. Just not my cup of tea.
On a different note, I am recommending Friendster as a great place to meet the many normal ladies that are to be found in abundance anywhere in the Phil. I understand that there are five million Pinoys online there. I also recommend FH but having several pics to look at is a better view of their figure than their best face pic they display. However I see a problem if they find out all your friends on friendster and start contacting them so I will close my friendster account shortly upon my arrival which also remains a secret as does which pension house I stay at. Thats another disadvantage of being a player and owning real estate / condo in the Phil. Harder to move around if need be.
I have already lined up a bakers dozen and I will be well stocked with fine ladies for the next eight months as soon as the Canadian winter sets in and I return to Cebu. My entire stable of four gf's came entirely from FH and this came from a larger selection of ladies which one interviews between ladies.
If you have the time, the game and enough residual income Cebu is hard to beat all things considered, minus the GRO's. If GRO's are your game, time is limited head straight to Angeles until your back up sperm accumalation problem has been dealt with.
But don't get me wrong, I probably could have saved money if I stayed in Angeles with GRO's relative to the cost of keeping a GF, but I like that headspace.
CEBU has a fine stable of women. One can find a decent GF for a month or longer in a great physical environment with adequate infrastructure to keep one in creature comforts any day of the week for quite a few years to come. Amen.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
More information about "Liza's" please, ditto for "Tina's."
I too found the same at BG and Viking and dont rate at all. I told the Mamasan at Viking as well - I reported on Cebu Life site. Silver Dollar girls a bit big for me but can be fun. The place is a letdown though as a narrow, long bar and nowhere for action.
I consider Liza's in Mandaue and Lone Star to be the best fun. You have to choose carefully at the latter and the girls at the former can be very naughty - bj in the bar last time I was there. Depends if any locals around as they become shy then.
Arrived last Thursday so I'm renewing aquaintances at the moment!!
I must admit I have been in 95% of the GRO bars on Mango and Fuente area, some 30 seconds with a quick retreat, and Lone Star should be up there on ones list. I enjoyed my time there. The place is popular meaning busier than the majority of bars, and agree that the ladies are naughty. They enjoy dancing with the customers and dirty dancing at best. They are for sure hard core, right up there with Silver Dollar and deserve special recognition when one considers that they have a large stable.
Alas the pizza was over rated. For those looking for a decent pie, I found Don Henrico's and Tequila Joes in Ayala to be much better.
Btw, the bump sounded more like a migraine but I would not doubt for a second your experience and yes that's what its all about here, but overall Viking and BG are running a successful business. But there is little doubt that the GRO's in Cebu can't be making money like their associates in Angeles and maybe it is the lack of sex that makes them cranky - lol.
Tina's is downtown, not far from the Mercedes Hotel. The first time I went there, it wasn't bad. It had been taken over by the former owner of Black Hole and they had a lot of plans for renovating the place. There were some interesting ladies there.
When I went there last year, I was sorely disappointed. No renovation. The women didn't look appealing at all, and to top it off they got cranky when I said I'd prefer to drink alone. I had swollen tonsils and could barely talk.
Most of the customers wire Pinoy.
Of course things do change quickly in the bar business. Let's hope for the best.
X Man
More information about "Liza's" please, ditto for "Tina's."
Thanks for the update.
Tina's is downtown, not far from the Mercedes Hotel. The first time I went there, it wasn't bad. It had been taken over by the former owner of Black Hole and they had a lot of plans for renovating the place. There were some interesting ladies there.
When I went there last year, I was sorely disappointed. No renovation. The women didn't look appealing at all, and to top it off they got cranky when I said I'd prefer to drink alone. I had swollen tonsils and could barely talk.
Most of the customers wire Pinoy.
Of course things do change quickly in the bar business. Let's hope for the best.
X Man
Bill Buxton
07-09-07, 05:55
I am a long time travelor to Cebu. I agree with the below comments, but for the "Viking and upstairs BG." Many of my friends were disappointed with the out the door 1700bf. Although they argue it includes the "tip" most, if not all, my friends complained of poor service. I have learned you provide a tip after services have been rendered, and based on the quality of the service.
As for the BG, terrible experience there last time I was in Cebu (April). When I turned down the possiblity of a bf and told them I was leaveing the mamsan became extremely angry. She actually started ragging I must be gay, asked me if I wanted to barfine the bartender (a male).
I simply walked out, did not even finish my drink.
You have been warned.Could be they know some guys don't tip or could be someone saw you making eyes at the bartender after all.
Like life you get out what you put in and what is 5-10 bucks for a nights work. You will never ever be able to make me beleave that a gal that stays all night is not worth a tip! Like my favorite shirt states, "if you think 50 pesos is a lot of money you stayed here too long"
Less than 40 dollars for a bf and some guys are upset? Take all those big spenders to manila and try and get a bf for 1700 p. Could be they should get some street action and go to mercury drug the next day for some zithromax at $10 plus dollars USA Per pill.That is always a good cure for the KREPUT BLUES.
Try some of the other bars around the area could be you hit the rong place at the rong time.Also when you travel in packs they think they can make the whole group stupid for cash.
B. B.
Bill Buxton
07-09-07, 06:32
Be VERY worried about any RE transaction. I ran a biz there for 3 years. #1 prob was the lease I signed. In the US I would have sued landlord. Not an option for me with him (i'm back in usa). He's got me by the balls. Real Estate is soooo different there. Throw away ideas of property/lease/renting/buying in the US.Spend some time and look around to see what area fits you and yours. And yes rent why buy a place you can have a life in a rental without the great risk of loss like an owner will. Remember a foreigner can not own land here just airspace!
B. B.
Thanks for all the advice I think I will hold off on the condo. Will be back in cebu in aug. Will give another report. 1700 pesos if the girl sucks just get another one right away. Makati thats what 3 to 4 lady drinks.
Bill Buxton
07-10-07, 06:51
Thanks for all the advice I think I will hold off on the condo. Will be back in cebu in aug. Will give another report. 1700 pesos if the girl sucks just get another one right away. Makati thats what 3 to 4 lady drinks.You will here and see all kinds here and just listen to whats on the docket. First of all they will all be rich thats why they live her and second if they live here they will most generally be an authority on everything. So just do what has got you through life as you know it and be smart, think, and never take candy from a stranger.
B.B.
Monger without a cause.
Could be they know some guys don't tip or could be someone saw you making eyes at the bartender after all.
Like life you get out what you put in and what is 5-10 bucks for a nights work. You will never ever be able to make me beleave that a gal that stays all night is not worth a tip! Like my favorite shirt states, "if you think 50 pesos is a lot of money you stayed here too long"
Less than 40 dollars for a bf and some guys are upset? Take all those big spenders to manila and try and get a bf for 1700 p. Could be they should get some street action and go to mercury drug the next day for some zithromax at $10 plus dollars USA Per pill.That is always a good cure for the KREPUT BLUES.
Try some of the other bars around the area could be you hit the rong place at the rong time.Also when you travel in packs they think they can make the whole group stupid for cash.
B. B.
Bill Buxton
07-11-07, 19:58
Thanks for the kind words, nice to see some never change.
But the bartender thing is new even for you right?
Web Connect
07-13-07, 13:20
They have no concept about how valuable your vacation time is.
X ManYeah but some guys will stiff a girl for the 150 peso taxi fare. The guys don't know 150 pesos is a lot to them!
Bill Buxton
07-13-07, 20:23
Yeah but some guys will stiff a girl for the 150 peso taxi fare. The guys don't know 150 pesos is a lot to them!Nice to see another person knows what 3 dollars can do for a person here.
B.B.
FireWalker
07-14-07, 10:58
Tina's is downtown, not far from the Mercedes Hotel. The first time I went there, it wasn't bad. It had been taken over by the former owner of Black Hole and they had a lot of plans for renovating the place. There were some interesting ladies there.
When I went there last year, I was sorely disappointed. No renovation. The women didn't look appealing at all, and to top it off they got cranky when I said I'd prefer to drink alone. I had swollen tonsils and could barely talk.
Most of the customers wire Pinoy.
Of course things do change quickly in the bar business. Let's hope for the best.
X Man
They did do remodeling, didn't you notice? Same interior designer as The Black Hole!
Web Connect
07-14-07, 11:05
Nice to see another person knows what 3 dollars can do for a person here.
B.B.Yeah but I am sure some guy is sitting there thinking. He means 3 dollars and 27 cents (todays conversions)
I wonder if it is the big numbers in their head that make people get cheap.
I was getting a foot massage the other day when I was disturbed by some guy fighting with the cashier that he had to pay for the oil they used during his massage. When they had a sign that clearly had the prices of dry massage and oil massage. After his massage started he asked the masseuse to use some cream or oil, she did what he said, but he didn't know that he would be charged after. He was such a dick and wouldn't budge paying. The massage girl who only works for tips was pretty upset cause it was going to come out of her pocket. I wound up paying.
Just so you know. Some of the places that give Thai / Foot Massage do not pay the girls. Or they get a "bonus" after they have massaged a certain amount (8) customers. So most of the time they are working only on tips.
Yeah I know a lot of people are thinking " why don't they get a different job " If life in the RP was that easy.
Bill Buxton
07-15-07, 10:06
Yeah but I am sure some guy is sitting there thinking. He means 3 dollars and 27 cents (todays conversions)
I wonder if it is the big numbers in their head that make people get cheap.
I was getting a foot massage the other day when I was disturbed by some guy fighting with the cashier that he had to pay for the oil they used during his massage. When they had a sign that clearly had the prices of dry massage and oil massage. After his massage started he asked the masseuse to use some cream or oil, she did what he said, but he didn't know that he would be charged after. He was such a dick and wouldn't budge paying. The massage girl who only works for tips was pretty upset cause it was going to come out of her pocket. I wound up paying.
Just so you know. Some of the places that give Thai / Foot Massage do not pay the girls. Or they get a "bonus" after they have massaged a certain amount (8) customers. So most of the time they are working only on tips.
Yeah I know a lot of people are thinking " why don't they get a different job " If life in the RP was that easy.Sounds like all the shit I saw each and every day and still do. Guys wanting it all on a ten cent budget. You are right if jobs were easy to get the prices would be higher. Might make for a better overall playing field, weed out the garbage. Yes most gals in that biz do work off just tips and get no per hr or shift pay for there effort. It's just the way it is and I think it is a shame but thats life here. And then some guy has to make a scene over a 50 cent charge on babby oil or whatever she used. That kind of thing is so common it's often overlooked by long time visitors, hard to defend everybody.
B. B.
Desert Don
07-18-07, 05:36
i am a senior and would like to move back to cebu, i know it has grown alot since i was there. my wife from cebu of 23 years died recently of cancer.
where are decent areas with studio or small one bedroom apts that would be near town, quiet and you can have cable and hi-speed internet.?
thanks,
don
Wander Luster
07-20-07, 00:13
Here's some info about bars I didn't want to publish 'cause some were at least semi-secrets that would ruin everything for me. I don't think I'll be in cebu for at LEAST 2 years, so I don't care now.
3 months ago, at the end of my era-- when I left after spending 1/2 my life in cebu from about 2004-2007-- I was really suprised how great Black Hole could be. One thing I notice is that the owner is less restrictive with girls working "rules" and this is appealing to a lot of babes that would otherwise be in the super expensive bars or would drop out of working in bars. Always at least drop in there, as there is often some talent that was not there the last time you went.
I was in vikings maybe 40 times over the last 2.5 years. I rarely barfine there. I like girls that are at least somewhat new to the game. One thing I don't hear on here is the fact that Vikings has a lot of old-time girls. They may be very cute and great in bed, but they are really pros, which I don't like.
Try "Eric the Red" and look for the girl with the large awesome breasts...if you want a more "real" experience and you are able to give a more real one. She'll be into it and it will be very authentic. She'd know my first name ...but can't post it. There are more new girls in that place, but the looks of the girls is not up to other bars over-all. They don't get so many guests so they are eager to please.
Also, anyone ever go with "Apple" from Papillion. Again, if you're good in bed and she thinks your cute or turn her on...she is an awesome choice.
If you go to what was Firehouse, ask for a girl who knows a guy she "dated" for a month or two while he was "down on his luck" from putting his company out of biz. She's a great chick. Also GF sex and very cute. Don't know what she'd be using as a bar name. Def one of the cutest there, or at any of the mid-priced bars. That may not help in finding her!
For BGs, what a screwed up place. Went once and never again.
Go to Sisters and see if you can get a "date" with the sister of the owner for the fun of it. I used to have fun flirting with her. She's such a babe, but not avail for take-out price, she's the mama san and about 30 yrs old. See if you can get her happy enough to hang with you that she'll do some dirty dancing with you. You'll have greatest sex ever later that night thinking about her. Fact that she's "unatainable" because she's the mama-san makes her 4X more appealing. Some say she can be a ***** to the girls! But if she likes you, a patron, she can set you on fire.
I like the other mid-priced bars, but don't have much special to say about the m right now.
Cheers.
Wander Luster
07-20-07, 00:15
Bill
I agree with you. the new all incl rates are all over the place. i think sisters is the most reasonable at 2000. blackhole was 2650, lonestar 2800 and dimples 2600 i think.
the most reasonable and realistic i found this trip was tinas darkened bar at 700 plus girls tip. with the all new incl I found most girls want to leave after the deed is done.
I have had better experiences in the past with the old payy the bf/pay the girl. i think the clubs might be ripping off the girls too as the dimples told me she only gets 500p. but i found a real rough in the needlestack at blackhole and she is just so horny. but i feel the rates are outragoues as i treat the girls fairly nice.
i return to manila today.
Guys, this is bullshit. If the mama san knows you and "trusts" you then tell her you won't do all inclusive. Plus, those rates don't sound in line with the old ladder. Dimples and Papillion had SOME of the cutest girls but of the mentioned bars were the most expensive.
Wander Luster
07-20-07, 00:23
You would think that a good attorney could watch out for you and make sure the contract is fair for both sides.
the biggest problem with an attorney is that the law doesn't matter. In the end things don't get resolved legally. Who you know, for example, matters more than anything.
In my case I may do some publicity to ruin his reputation like taking out ads in the paper (they are VERY cheap relative to usa).
I would NEVER do that if I was in the Phils, but I won't be going back for a long time, so there's nothing he can do.
The law is not on your side in cebu if you are dealing with the rich locals.
Wander Luster
07-20-07, 00:29
Monger without a cause.
What's that all about? Totally uncalled for. I hardly keep much note who posts what, but Bills got a lot of good things to say. Being so in your face rude should force a probation off this board for a month or two. LOL
Web Connect
07-20-07, 06:26
Sounds like all the shit I saw each and every day and still do. Guys wanting it all on a ten cent budget. You are right if jobs were easy to get the prices would be higher. Might make for a better overall playing field, weed out the garbage. Yes most gals in that biz do work off just tips and get no per hr or shift pay for there effort. That kind of thing is so common it's often overlooked by long time visitors, hard to defend everybody.
B. B.I don't think we need to weed out the cheap charlies. They are doing it themselves.
I almost laugh when I read these guys think the TIPS are included with the bar fine at bars like Viking, BG's, ect. These girls trade notes just like we do. If a guy does'nt give TIPS to a girl after bar fining her. He may as well write that bar off his list to go back to. The girls would rather wait for a new customer that she can get some TIPS from. These girls move from bar to bar, so of course when those Cheap Charlie's walk in. They make sure all the girls know.
To me TIPS means. To Insure Proper Service. If anyone has even been in the RP. They understand the service may vary. That should already be expected. The service may not be up to everyone's standards. But it is still a service. So TIPS no matter what the amount is better to give them to be marked as a CHEAP CHARLIE (or what ever they call it in the RP)
Don't forget the Siver Dollar. Again, its not the "Savoy," but in terms of just plain fun its a great place.
I also like managements attitude - been there a number of times when the owner walked aroud at 8:55pm reminding everyone that happy hour would end in 5 minutes so they could order.
Its not as much that your getting a discount beer, its an attitude that hey, lets drink up and have a little fun.
Here's some info about bars I didn't want to publish 'cause some were at least semi-secrets that would ruin everything for me. I don't think I'll be in cebu for at LEAST 2 years, so I don't care now.
3 months ago, at the end of my era-- when I left after spending 1/2 my life in cebu from about 2004-2007-- I was really suprised how great Black Hole could be. One thing I notice is that the owner is less restrictive with girls working "rules" and this is appealing to a lot of babes that would otherwise be in the super expensive bars or would drop out of working in bars. Always at least drop in there, as there is often some talent that was not there the last time you went.
I was in vikings maybe 40 times over the last 2.5 years. I rarely barfine there. I like girls that are at least somewhat new to the game. One thing I don't hear on here is the fact that Vikings has a lot of old-time girls. They may be very cute and great in bed, but they are really pros, which I don't like.
Try "Eric the Red" and look for the girl with the large awesome breasts...if you want a more "real" experience and you are able to give a more real one. She'll be into it and it will be very authentic. She'd know my first name ...but can't post it. There are more new girls in that place, but the looks of the girls is not up to other bars over-all. They don't get so many guests so they are eager to please.
Also, anyone ever go with "Apple" from Papillion. Again, if you're good in bed and she thinks your cute or turn her on...she is an awesome choice.
If you go to what was Firehouse, ask for a girl who knows a guy she "dated" for a month or two while he was "down on his luck" from putting his company out of biz. She's a great chick. Also GF sex and very cute. Don't know what she'd be using as a bar name. Def one of the cutest there, or at any of the mid-priced bars. That may not help in finding her!
For BGs, what a screwed up place. Went once and never again.
Go to Sisters and see if you can get a "date" with the sister of the owner for the fun of it. I used to have fun flirting with her. She's such a babe, but not avail for take-out price, she's the mama san and about 30 yrs old. See if you can get her happy enough to hang with you that she'll do some dirty dancing with you. You'll have greatest sex ever later that night thinking about her. Fact that she's "unatainable" because she's the mama-san makes her 4X more appealing. Some say she can be a ***** to the girls! But if she likes you, a patron, she can set you on fire.
I like the other mid-priced bars, but don't have much special to say about the m right now.
Cheers.
Member #4351
07-20-07, 18:02
Does anyone know a way of getting a room for less than $110.48 a night including taxes, or that´s just what I will have to pay.
Does anyone know a way of getting a room for less than $110.48 a night including taxes, or that´s just what I will have to pay.
Hello David,
According to www.asiatravel.com/cebu.html and depending on the day of the week, you can book a room there for $81.00 + tax (I think that might be the weekend rate). Also the Marriot might offer walk-up rate specials if they are slow.
Dashing Don
07-21-07, 08:33
Hey David, nice to see you expanding your horizons beyond Peru, however, my welcome is tempered by your warm relationship with the now-banned-Surfer. How is he by the way? And now that you have finally broken out of South America, will you report responsibly and accurately, how hugely different the mongering, and indeed, the non-paying experience is here in Asia, from that in S. America.
I mean, give Asia its due. It being the Majors and S. America being something below Little League. I hope your report reflects the fact that you have been pushing Peru for a long time, and now you are now an 'Asian convert'.
Don
Joe Island
07-21-07, 11:21
Does anyone know a way of getting a room for less than $110.48 a night including taxes, or that´s just what I will have to pay.I've use both of these websites for hotel rooms in Korea never had any problems. I always check the hotels website before I pay (if they have one). Looks like some hotel rooms are going for $40USD. Some times hotels have a promo booking online only. Another thing you can do is just wing it. Get off the plane and hunt down a place to crash thats what I would do. I travel lite so no luggage to worry about.Plus you never know what you will run into during your search.
http://www.asiarooms.com/
http://wired-destinations.com/
Member #4351
07-22-07, 02:54
Thanks for the help. When I called the Marriott from here, the girl told me that all the prices are the same because on the internet they don´t include taxes. The deal is that the dates in Oct. when I will be there show no vacancy when I try to book online. The girl said that there was no problem, plenty of rooms. So I´ll have to wait until they get their act together and show room availability in Oct. in order to get my reservations on one of the websites.
Dashing Don,
I had the pleasure of meeting surfer on one of his trips to Peru, and found him to be a nice guy, so I can´t say anything against him. The girls I fixed him up with also liked him, so that´s all I know.
I have previously been to Thailand 6 times, Cambodia twice and Burma once. As well as Hong Kong, Japan and Taipei some time ago, so I´m not a virgin when it comes to Asian mongering. I live in Peru, hence that and the Buenos Aires or Colombian forums are where I generally post. I have tried to liven up the board a little with my reports on mother/daughter experiences with photos, and other more creative mongering endeavors. I have always tried to help out visitors to Lima and am glad that this is being reciprocated now that I will be traveling for the first time to Cebu and Jakarta.
Those are about the prices I paid for Marriott when I was there a couple of weeks ago. It's hard to get much better deals than that because they're occupancy rates are usually pretty high. And don't forget that the dollar continues to be in the tank against the peso.
Right now the park between the Marriott and Ayala is all torn up by reconstruction. You can still walk to the mall through the parking lot.
I get nothing but frustration with Asiarooms.com. Every time I try to use them I have to wait a day or two to find out the result of the booking. Usually they come back and say that nothing is available and try to push an alternate.
I'll be in town from Monday to Thursday this week. I hope to meet anyone who's around.
Does anyone know a way of getting a room for less than $110.48 a night including taxes, or that´s just what I will have to pay.Sorry that I didn't get a chance to meet you when I was in Lima last year. Your reports were very helpful though.
I was in Cebu last month and a MUCH better option would be the Waterfront Lahug. It is just up the hill from the Marriott and is a nicer place to stay. The Marriott is a standard mid-level Marriott you would find anywhere else in the world, but the Waterfront Lahug is far more interesting - casino in the hotel, four or five nice restaurants, shops, big pool, and a real gym (20 cardio machines, free weights, machines, etc.). There is a kiosk opposite the baggage claim at the airport for Waterfront (they have two locations so if you want to stay in town be sure to ask for Waterfront Lahug) and they will give you a rate of $80 if you ask for any "specials" they have. Since this includes the gym and a high-end breakfast buffet for two every morning I considered it a bargain. This is a vacation destination for Philipinos and other Asians so there are also pick-up opportunities right there in the hotel. The place is girl-friendly,*however I did have to sign a girl in one night but it was no big deal.
Have a great time in Cebu!
Lone Star has some real sweeties as usual. Wow, the three sisters!!! The older one shows some nice cleavage, but for looks only. She's had a baby that obviously fed well. The younger one is drop dead gorgeous, but not very busty. I not sure about the third sis. Bar fine is 2,650, with 2k for the girl and rest for the bar. Apparently too many guys weren't paying a fair amount. The girl I took out stayed until 3pm the next day and I can't even count how many times we did it. My pubic bone is still sore two days later. So the up front payment didn't affect service in this case.
Most improved bar is FH, formerly Firehouse. Still mostly Fil customers. The problem with this place is if you sit at the bar the lights tend to shine in your eyes. Add that to a Cialis headache...ouch.
NOW, I WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.
Reasonably cute, very short, but very busty girl sits with me and gives me this story. She's 19, she's new but no one has bar fined her. The management is going to let her go because of this. She has two more nights. She impllies that if I bar fine her, I'll save her job.
Do you think this is true, or just a clever line to get a bar fine?
X Man
Spamhog, neither of the numbers I have for you are now working. I left you a pm, but probably will leave Cebu soon. Sorry I missed you.
With a bar fine of 2,650 sounds like the end of an era for the Silver Dollar.
I don't mind the price if the service is good, however, because of places like the Viking, etc., I am very concerned with paying up front for a disappointment.
My opinion of the "I will be fired if no bar fine," - don't believe it for a moment. Acually had something similar happen on a car lot here in the U.S. The young salesman told him if he did not bring a person into the showroom today he would be fired. Of course I saw him a couple times after that working for the same dealer.
Lone Star has some real sweeties as usual. Wow, the three sisters!!! The older one shows some nice cleavage, but for looks only. She's had a baby that obviously fed well. The younger one is drop dead gorgeous, but not very busty. I not sure about the third sis. Bar fine is 2,650, with 2k for the girl and rest for the bar. Apparently too many guys weren't paying a fair amount. The girl I took out stayed until 3pm the next day and I can't even count how many times we did it. My pubic bone is still sore two days later. So the up front payment didn't affect service in this case.
Most improved bar is FH, formerly Firehouse. Still mostly Fil customers. The problem with this place is if you sit at the bar the lights tend to shine in your eyes. Add that to a Cialis headache...ouch.
NOW, I WANT TO HEAR YOUR OPINION.
Reasonably cute, very short, but very busty girl sits with me and gives me this story. She's 19, she's new but no one has bar fined her. The management is going to let her go because of this. She has two more nights. She impllies that if I bar fine her, I'll save her job.
Do you think this is true, or just a clever line to get a bar fine?
X Man
Spamhog, neither of the numbers I have for you are now working. I left you a pm, but probably will leave Cebu soon. Sorry I missed you.
Member #4351
07-23-07, 03:59
PeakView, thanks for the information. I tried to PM you to ask about internet hookups in the room, but you haven´t paid Jackson his $19.95 yet. Also, are you sure about that $80 a night price? Their website says minimum $165.
PeakView, thanks for the information. I tried to PM you to ask about internet hookups in the room, but you haven´t paid Jackson his $19.95 yet. Also, are you sure about that $80 a night price? Their website says minimum $165.It is their special price given at the airport kiosk in the baggage claim area if you ask for any specials. That is what I paid for a three day stay. I would guess it is not available during times when Cebu has festivals, etc. , but I don't think that is a worry this time of year. It is a bit of a crap shoot, but one worth taking. I went to Cebu without any reservations figuring I could walk into the Marriott for $80 or so, however when I got that Waterfront special I went for it immediately. I later tried to get a special at the Marriott just to check it out and they quoted $120 as their special rate! Let us know how things work out for you.
The Wanderer
07-23-07, 15:28
With a bar fine of 2,650 sounds like the end of an era for the Silver Dollar.
I don't mind the price if the service is good, however, because of places like the Viking, etc., I am very concerned with paying up front for a disappointment.
My opinion of the "I will be fired if no bar fine," - don't believe it for a moment. Acually had something similar happen on a car lot here in the U.S. The young salesman told him if he did not bring a person into the showroom today he would be fired. Of course I saw him a couple times after that working for the same dealer.
Might be worth reading X Man's report again as I don't believe he was referring to the Silver Dollar. I was there at Easter and the Bar fine was 600 and negotiate your own deal with the girl.
Incidentally, the girl I paid the EWR for also advised (After the EWR) that the girls have to “achieve” a minimum number of EWR each month or they are shown the door. Good strategy I think, keeps them keen and you get a better performance if the girl thinks there is a chance of a few days work.
A thousand pardons and thank you for pointing it out to me, for some reason I did mis-read X Mans post.
On the other item (EWR quoata) although I appreciate your infor I can't buy that one. Just too many bars looking for girls for this to ring true.
Might be worth reading X Man's report again as I don't believe he was referring to the Silver Dollar. I was there at Easter and the Bar fine was 600 and negotiate your own deal with the girl.
Incidentally, the girl I paid the EWR for also advised (After the EWR) that the girls have to “achieve” a minimum number of EWR each month or they are shown the door. Good strategy I think, keeps them keen and you get a better performance if the girl thinks there is a chance of a few days work.
As for my Lone Star report, I had a second experience which was not nearly as nice as the first. I went back to the bar to get a refund since they clearly said, "all night". Apparently the girl already has the money, so they wouldn't give me a refund unless the girl returned it to me. I ended up getting only 1k back.
Well, I'll be slipping the girl my number instead of paying their bar fine. Learned my lesson.
As for the girl who "would be fired", yea it was bullshit. I was eating at Midtown robinsons and she shows up. SHe has a big x-ray envelope. Something about her "hygiene check". I asked her why she would bother since she's losing her job. She says, "They said if I get the hygiene, I can stay."
X Man
This is just a quick report that may help others who are looking for reasonably priced hotels with Internet access. I telecommute, so this is a necessity for me, and Cebu has been one of the most challenging locations so far. In my first 3 days I have stayed in 3 hotels and 4 rooms, due to various problems.
St. Moritz - What a shithole! They lied straight out to me both on the phone and when I checked in and told me they had reliable wi-fi in the rooms. Turns out the router had had major problems for several days and the wi-fi is completely unusable. Also, the room was pretty close to being a dump, with an air-conditioner that had broken directional vents and after an hour and a half still had not cooled the room below 80 degrees. I left at that point, which is when they finally quit stalling me and admitted the Internet connection was not working and would not be fixed soon. The manager or whoever the lady running the front desk was did not even have the decency to apologize or even pretend to be sympathetic. I only found out the real story of the problem from a guy using the hard-wired computer in the lobby. The staff had told me the wi-fi was working fine earlier in the day.
Cebu Midtown Inn - Decent room, maybe a little run down, but more expensive than I wanted to pay-- 2800 PP for a deluxe room, as no standard rooms were available. Turned out the heavily advertised wi-fi was only in the lobby, and cost 110 pesos per hour, with no discounts for longer periods. It worked well, however. Stayed one night. They charged my credit card when I had specifically told them it was for the deposit only and I would pay cash. Said they would call the bank and cancel the transaction, but it has showed up on my account. Staff is not rude, but not particularly friendly, either. There is a really annoying pimp across the street at night that came over and scared off a freelancer I had approached as she was walking by. Not sure what he said to her, but she changed her mind about going to my room after he got in her face.
Holiday Plaza - rooms are a big step down from Midtown for only a small difference in price - 2000 pesos - but at least they have in-room wi-fi. You can get 15 hours for 900 pesos, good for up to 3 days. Connection is inconsistent, however. Better in rooms near the repeaters. Staff is friendly.
Rajah - free wi-fi in the lobby and restaurant. Cheapest room with a decent size bed is 2800 pesos. Cute, friendly desk clerk the night I went in. Even suggested I just stay at Midtown since I was already there, and walk over during the day to use their Internet connection. Did not stay there or use the wi-fi, so not much other info I can give.
I will be in Cebu until Monday morning, July 30, unless my plans change. Send me a PM if you are interested in meeting. I am in my mid-40s, with a fair amount of mongering experience in Asia and Mexico, but this is my first trip to Cebu. I am strongly considering relocating here, so I would be really interested in meeting any other residents or frequent visitors.
At the risk of sounding like - oh what the hell I'll just go ahead and say it - I told you so. Don't pay the tip up front, its simply a bad way to do buisness.
Additionally, one night I was in the Lone Star around midnight. It was around a holiday, don't remember the one. The girls at the end of the bar said they were hungry (a real soft spot with me) so I bought them a couple of pitza's. Then, claiming they were now thirsty, they all wanted a ladies drink. After I drew the line they sat there, eating the pitza I bought them, calling me a cheap Charlie.
Was a real lesson for me.
As for my Lone Star report, I had a second experience which was not nearly as nice as the first. I went back to the bar to get a refund since they clearly said, "all night". Apparently the girl already has the money, so they wouldn't give me a refund unless the girl returned it to me. I ended up getting only 1k back.
Well, I'll be slipping the girl my number instead of paying their bar fine. Learned my lesson.
As for the girl who "would be fired", yea it was bullshit. I was eating at Midtown robinsons and she shows up. SHe has a big x-ray envelope. Something about her "hygiene check". I asked her why she would bother since she's losing her job. She says, "They said if I get the hygiene, I can stay."
X Man
Starchild2012
07-28-07, 04:19
I'm in Cebu after lots of research. Its not what i read on the net to an extent, at least for me I'm experiencing a different viewpoint.
I'm from India, so my views would be totally different from Europeans and Americans.
I have visited almost all bars like a religious movement of sorts as soon as i landed in Cebu.
First, there are lots and lots of Koreans here studying English, you would find them in any place you go for dining, clubs and bars, they have conquered Cebu for the sake of English learning.
There are some pre conceived ideas about you with the bar girls, like Indians are considered dirty, bambai's :Money lenders, blender sellers etc, 100% of the filipina girls don't like Filipina guys and they don't like Koreans either, white guys have mixed opinion..some are cheap charlies and some are very generous like in Thailand all brown, slightly black people are considered Indians and they would at first discriminate you unless you show them you have money.
In third world to third world comparison, Philippines is higher in all aspects be in spirituality, manners, discipline than my country back home ..people here are more polite and are very respectful though we all have our true color behind our sweet appearance, still they are higher in many ways.
IF you are a new comer in PH..be ware..Filipinos are very clean and they DO NOT LIKE SWEAT, ODOUR etc i thought Asians are generally clean due to hot climate and being forced to bath every day..BUT Filipinos are religiously clean..they have 10 times more smelling power than ordinary people and they bath a lot and make themselves clean all the time..
Take bath every time you go to a bar, after shopping, sightseeing in the evening..even a slight hint of sweat or odour is enough to put a girl away...they will hold their nose time and again to show how bad u smell and because of money they are being forced to sit with you, if you wanna have a good time..be clean..
I thought taking a bath every day is fine..but here you need to take bath before and after you go to any place and put on tons of perfume and deo's
I have to mention it, cos it is important how a girl will treat you BETTER if you smell good..as i have to go to bad experience before someone told me i smell bad and i had just taken a bath, went to Robinson mall, did some shopping, came back and went to a bar .and i smelled bad in all couple of hours
I found there are classes of bars..once catering to westerners and ordinary folks and one to Koreans/Japanese
I being to lone star, silver dollar, temptation, BG's, Vikings, Bills bar and they cater mostly to western men..these bars are good for the value and money conscious tourist and ex pats all had lively atmosphere..though being of Indian origin..girls were little hesitant to come over to me..but after spending on couple of drinks they came over one by one :D
If you have some extra money to spend or say..you sacrifice a weekend thats a tough task You should visit some of the bars catering to the Koreans/Japanese customers...Arena and Jaguar Bars are in my opinion the best bars in terms of QUALITY AND QUANTITY of girls..there are around 100 top class girls from Cebu and province who are waiting for you.
I bar fined a girl from Jaguar, who looked like my ex GF...The bar fine plus girl cost is 5000 in both the bars while in Vikings, BG's , silver dollar..its 1500 +..
The cost is very high in these bars and i think you would get what you pay for..Just for the experience you could visit once and get a model type girl, the girl turned out to be like a porn star..she allowed me to go with every position i ever imagined back home and screamed just like in the movies...i had five - 6 rounds...before i went to bed and then again in the morning..i was on her..
I bar fined a girl from silver dollar, she turned out to be a hotty, bar fined again one more from the Bill Bars for 700 ..yeah i was running out of money so my cost kept coming down :D
I thought i will f**ck every night one girl, but here the girls are so coooo-orporative, you don't feel like going out the next day..you are literally drained of every protien drop you ever had in you :D with one girl
I wanted to pick up Korean chicks from sunflower disco, pumps, nasa etc..But their look were misunderstood as they kept giving me a glance but i mistook it as i think for a while i was the lone Indian wandering around they think..what the heck is he doing here...i got rejected once and did not think of approaching the young Korean chicks again..i learned the hard way..looks could be deceiving.
Some Korean chicks are comparable to Filipinos and i thought hey how about cross cultural three way love to bound Asian culture more.
I have lots of internet chicks lined up from next month as i was searching for a house and thinking of settling down first
Net chicks i feel some are hot and good..but once you land here..the quality you will see here in the streets and malls are superior to the ones who sit on the net
If you wanna pick normal girls..you have to approach them first..they are shy..but once you open up they will be all over :D
I got rejected from a girl i met on the net, saying i was Indian and i looked dirty :D..i felt really blown away as i wanted to get her at any cost...now after couple of weeks of persuasion she is turning around...
You could pick almost all the girls here if she is single..BUT MIND ..most of the rich, cute, sexy, the top class, center fold type are already taken by Filipino dudes..common they are not stupid YET there are WAY MORE THAN stunner's waiting to be picked up
These are my couple of weeks of observation..i will write more once i settle in
IF you are a new comer in PH..be ware..Filipinos are very clean and they DO NOT LIKE SWEAT, ODOUR etc
This has not been my experience. I am a big guy and I sweat a lot, so I tend to take lots of showers. However, walking around in the heat means that I sometimes have gone into bars when I was pretty sweaty, to the point I was embarrassed about it, but girls would tell me it was no problem. I use extra strength anti-perspirant that I bring from the USA, so I did not have much smell, but I was sticky with sweat.
I can think of 2 possible reasons for you having a different experience:
1. My experience has mostly been in Angeles and Subic. Maybe Cebu girls are different.
2. Due to their diet, Indian guys generally smell different than westerners, or even Koreans and Japanese. Maybe the girls are not used to this, and so they find a small amount of odor offensive.
I took an Indian fiend who lives in Singapore to Angeles, and while the girls were maybe not quite as enthusiastic about him as they would have been someone from another nationality who was equally good looking, fit, and nice, he did not really have any problems. Actually, once they talked to him he did really well, because he had gone to grad school in Manila and spoke some Tagalog.
I agree about the looks of the girls in the Korean-centric bars. I went into Volvo and Thunderdome, and while I think the hottest girls in the Mango bars can match them, the average was a lot higher there. No way I was paying a 5000 peso barfine, however.
Nice, down to earth, report.
I'm in Cebu after lots of research. Its not what i read on the net to an extent, at least for me I'm experiencing a different viewpoint.
I'm from India, so my views would be totally different from Europeans and Americans.
I have visited almost all bars like a religious movement of sorts as soon as i landed in Cebu.
First, there are lots and lots of Koreans here studying English, you would find them in any place you go for dining, clubs and bars, they have conquered Cebu for the sake of English learning.
There are some pre conceived ideas about you with the bar girls, like Indians are considered dirty, bambai's :Money lenders, blender sellers etc, 100% of the filipina girls don't like Filipina guys and they don't like Koreans either, white guys have mixed opinion..some are cheap charlies and some are very generous like in Thailand all brown, slightly black people are considered Indians and they would at first discriminate you unless you show them you have money.
In third world to third world comparison, Philippines is higher in all aspects be in spirituality, manners, discipline than my country back home ..people here are more polite and are very respectful though we all have our true color behind our sweet appearance, still they are higher in many ways.
IF you are a new comer in PH..be ware..Filipinos are very clean and they DO NOT LIKE SWEAT, ODOUR etc i thought Asians are generally clean due to hot climate and being forced to bath every day..BUT Filipinos are religiously clean..they have 10 times more smelling power than ordinary people and they bath a lot and make themselves clean all the time..
Take bath every time you go to a bar, after shopping, sightseeing in the evening..even a slight hint of sweat or odour is enough to put a girl away...they will hold their nose time and again to show how bad u smell and because of money they are being forced to sit with you, if you wanna have a good time..be clean..
I thought taking a bath every day is fine..but here you need to take bath before and after you go to any place and put on tons of perfume and deo's
I have to mention it, cos it is important how a girl will treat you BETTER if you smell good..as i have to go to bad experience before someone told me i smell bad and i had just taken a bath, went to Robinson mall, did some shopping, came back and went to a bar .and i smelled bad in all couple of hours
I found there are classes of bars..once catering to westerners and ordinary folks and one to Koreans/Japanese
I being to lone star, silver dollar, temptation, BG's, Vikings, Bills bar and they cater mostly to western men..these bars are good for the value and money conscious tourist and ex pats all had lively atmosphere..though being of Indian origin..girls were little hesitant to come over to me..but after spending on couple of drinks they came over one by one :D
If you have some extra money to spend or say..you sacrifice a weekend thats a tough task You should visit some of the bars catering to the Koreans/Japanese customers...Arena and Jaguar Bars are in my opinion the best bars in terms of QUALITY AND QUANTITY of girls..there are around 100 top class girls from Cebu and province who are waiting for you.
I bar fined a girl from Jaguar, who looked like my ex GF...The bar fine plus girl cost is 5000 in both the bars while in Vikings, BG's , silver dollar..its 1500 +..
The cost is very high in these bars and i think you would get what you pay for..Just for the experience you could visit once and get a model type girl, the girl turned out to be like a porn star..she allowed me to go with every position i ever imagined back home and screamed just like in the movies...i had five - 6 rounds...before i went to bed and then again in the morning..i was on her..
I bar fined a girl from silver dollar, she turned out to be a hotty, bar fined again one more from the Bill Bars for 700 ..yeah i was running out of money so my cost kept coming down :D
I thought i will f**ck every night one girl, but here the girls are so coooo-orporative, you don't feel like going out the next day..you are literally drained of every protien drop you ever had in you :D with one girl
I wanted to pick up Korean chicks from sunflower disco, pumps, nasa etc..But their look were misunderstood as they kept giving me a glance but i mistook it as i think for a while i was the lone Indian wandering around they think..what the heck is he doing here...i got rejected once and did not think of approaching the young Korean chicks again..i learned the hard way..looks could be deceiving.
Some Korean chicks are comparable to Filipinos and i thought hey how about cross cultural three way love to bound Asian culture more.
I have lots of internet chicks lined up from next month as i was searching for a house and thinking of settling down first
Net chicks i feel some are hot and good..but once you land here..the quality you will see here in the streets and malls are superior to the ones who sit on the net
If you wanna pick normal girls..you have to approach them first..they are shy..but once you open up they will be all over :D
I got rejected from a girl i met on the net, saying i was Indian and i looked dirty :D..i felt really blown away as i wanted to get her at any cost...now after couple of weeks of persuasion she is turning around...
You could pick almost all the girls here if she is single..BUT MIND ..most of the rich, cute, sexy, the top class, center fold type are already taken by Filipino dudes..common they are not stupid YET there are WAY MORE THAN stunner's waiting to be picked up
These are my couple of weeks of observation..i will write more once i settle in
Adventurer5
07-29-07, 07:05
Great report BL hope you post again soon, it'd be interesting to hear more about your experiences with normal girls rather with bar girls. How many have you nailed so far?
Web Connect
07-30-07, 03:11
I wanted to pick up Korean chicks from sunflower disco, pumps, nasa etc..But their look were misunderstood as they kept giving me a glance but i mistook it as i think for a while i was the lone Indian wandering around they think..what the heck is he doing here...i got rejected once and did not think of approaching the young Korean chicks again..i learned the hard way..looks could be deceiving.The Koreans are NOT working as freelancers or even trying to pick up guys in Cebu. They are on a short stay to take a short English lesson. Most come from decent Korean families and don't need the money.
Great post Born L, it's especially good to get a different view point. Very few of the guys here describe themselves. You focus on color / race, but age, weight, appearance, style, demeanor, and game all will affect the final outcome.
Well, now that I said that I guess I should describe myself. 40ish, slightly overwieght, Westerner, cue ball hair style. Girls often call me "guapo", but I also get "stuck up", at least before they talk to me.
Hey, if you need to get past the "brown" barrier a little quicker, you're welcome to be this white boy's wingman! Just don't expect me to go to those 5k places.
Some of those K girls are very hot. If I had more than a week in Cebu I would go after that. Think about it. They are on holiday, they are there to improve their English (hey baby, let's talk) and the Korean guys are busy barfining girls out of Viking. I think this would be especially lucrative for the under 40s guys. A lot of them stay at the Diplomat Hotel on Ramos Ave (same street as Holiday PLaza / Raintree mall). My experience is that people from a society with a strong group culture (Japan, Korea) tend to let their hair down when they are outside of the constraints of their society -- in other words, they get crazy when overseas on holiday. I'll never forget the hot little Korean I met in Tokyo who was wearing a US flag miniskirt....
Sweat? I keep a hankerchief in my pocket and use it to wipe down once I get in the bar. Often a lady will take it out of my hand and help out. Gotta love that kind of service.
And you are so right about the loss of protein. I had one lady who said she was "born horny" and then proved it with such gusto that I had a sore pubic bone and aching balls all the next day. We spent about 18 hours in bed, only getting out for showers/toilet and food. And I thank the Cialis God for helping with my stamina.
Anyway BL, good luck with your "religious movement"!
X Man
I'm in Cebu after lots of research. Its not what i read on the net to an extent, at least for me I'm experiencing a different viewpoint.
I'm from India, so my views would be totally different from Europeans and Americans.
I have visited almost all bars like a religious movement of sorts as soon as i landed in Cebu.
First, there are lots and lots of Koreans here studying English, you would find them in any place you go for dining, clubs and bars, they have conquered Cebu for the sake of English learning.
There are some pre conceived ideas about you with the bar girls, like Indians are considered dirty, bambai's :Money lenders, blender sellers etc, 100% of the filipina girls don't like Filipina guys and they don't like Koreans either, white guys have mixed opinion..some are cheap charlies and some are very generous like in Thailand all brown, slightly black people are considered Indians and they would at first discriminate you unless you show them you have money.
In third world to third world comparison, Philippines is higher in all aspects be in spirituality, manners, discipline than my country back home ..people here are more polite and are very respectful though we all have our true color behind our sweet appearance, still they are higher in many ways.
IF you are a new comer in PH..be ware..Filipinos are very clean and they DO NOT LIKE SWEAT, ODOUR etc i thought Asians are generally clean due to hot climate and being forced to bath every day..BUT Filipinos are religiously clean..they have 10 times more smelling power than ordinary people and they bath a lot and make themselves clean all the time..
Take bath every time you go to a bar, after shopping, sightseeing in the evening..even a slight hint of sweat or odour is enough to put a girl away...they will hold their nose time and again to show how bad u smell and because of money they are being forced to sit with you, if you wanna have a good time..be clean..
I thought taking a bath every day is fine..but here you need to take bath before and after you go to any place and put on tons of perfume and deo's
I have to mention it, cos it is important how a girl will treat you BETTER if you smell good..as i have to go to bad experience before someone told me i smell bad and i had just taken a bath, went to Robinson mall, did some shopping, came back and went to a bar .and i smelled bad in all couple of hours
I found there are classes of bars..once catering to westerners and ordinary folks and one to Koreans/Japanese
I being to lone star, silver dollar, temptation, BG's, Vikings, Bills bar and they cater mostly to western men..these bars are good for the value and money conscious tourist and ex pats all had lively atmosphere..though being of Indian origin..girls were little hesitant to come over to me..but after spending on couple of drinks they came over one by one :D
If you have some extra money to spend or say..you sacrifice a weekend thats a tough task You should visit some of the bars catering to the Koreans/Japanese customers...Arena and Jaguar Bars are in my opinion the best bars in terms of QUALITY AND QUANTITY of girls..there are around 100 top class girls from Cebu and province who are waiting for you.
I bar fined a girl from Jaguar, who looked like my ex GF...The bar fine plus girl cost is 5000 in both the bars while in Vikings, BG's , silver dollar..its 1500 +..
The cost is very high in these bars and i think you would get what you pay for..Just for the experience you could visit once and get a model type girl, the girl turned out to be like a porn star..she allowed me to go with every position i ever imagined back home and screamed just like in the movies...i had five - 6 rounds...before i went to bed and then again in the morning..i was on her..
I bar fined a girl from silver dollar, she turned out to be a hotty, bar fined again one more from the Bill Bars for 700 ..yeah i was running out of money so my cost kept coming down :D
I thought i will f**ck every night one girl, but here the girls are so coooo-orporative, you don't feel like going out the next day..you are literally drained of every protien drop you ever had in you :D with one girl
I wanted to pick up Korean chicks from sunflower disco, pumps, nasa etc..But their look were misunderstood as they kept giving me a glance but i mistook it as i think for a while i was the lone Indian wandering around they think..what the heck is he doing here...i got rejected once and did not think of approaching the young Korean chicks again..i learned the hard way..looks could be deceiving.
Some Korean chicks are comparable to Filipinos and i thought hey how about cross cultural three way love to bound Asian culture more.
I have lots of internet chicks lined up from next month as i was searching for a house and thinking of settling down first
Net chicks i feel some are hot and good..but once you land here..the quality you will see here in the streets and malls are superior to the ones who sit on the net
If you wanna pick normal girls..you have to approach them first..they are shy..but once you open up they will be all over :D
I got rejected from a girl i met on the net, saying i was Indian and i looked dirty :D..i felt really blown away as i wanted to get her at any cost...now after couple of weeks of persuasion she is turning around...
You could pick almost all the girls here if she is single..BUT MIND ..most of the rich, cute, sexy, the top class, center fold type are already taken by Filipino dudes..common they are not stupid YET there are WAY MORE THAN stunner's waiting to be picked up
These are my couple of weeks of observation..i will write more once i settle in
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 18:55
Guys, I'm having a blast here however not on the expected grounds but on some spiritual and learning curve with pleasure attached
As have said before, my experiences would be totally different from an western man perspective.
Met the net girl at Ayala mall who i being chatting from past six months, she had said she would bring her nursing friends along too..i said ok and started counting my pesos..she and her two friends met me at pizza hut and i thought they would want pizza's before they eat me but they said they would move to bo's coffae and talk instead..we proceeded to bo's coffae but it was too crowded and not a place to sit for four aliens together
So we moved at some restaurant near by, we talked about our cultures again as we did on the net, their careers, their dreams and families etc we were getting more closer and closer and felt more bounded.
I thought as reported in forums the girl would just go for eating and spend me out..on the contrary i had to push them to eat as i was hungry, all they took before was ice tea.
I told about my new apartment and they were all excited.
I decided to wait and see how far i could go with them without wanting what i really want from them.
We were in Ayala till 8 and it was too early to move out so i suggested to go to some other place and they said we could go to paseo disco.
When we reached paseo it was slow as people mostly come by 10, we took the best seat possible and ordered drinks.
All students and youngsters here drink red horse beer, but i had a bad experience with it as its a bit stronger than san mig and i knew when i get drunk i open my real intentions
We went with san mig to just chill out..but it seems the girls were in no mood to let go the night as were bit disappointed that they would not get drunk hard as they wish too, i saw there plight and got them red horse and they got brightened
We had a blast, they were getting drunk, my john wanted to take them out but i just wanted to dance, talk, and share moments with them. (its not that i did not wanted sex, but i had counted my days i stay here and i know i could go a long way later)
I wanted to check their friends out, i was getting greedy and asked her to introduce them to their friends..and loo behold !!! i met nearly 30 of their friends right their at paseo, they were all having their own party, some came later on to chat and dance..by then i wanted to get drunk and ordered red horse by a dozen :) and i was drunk but yet in some state of my mind to know whats happening around and as we know when we are drunk we open our hearts more.
We went home by around 4 am but at paseo they hang around till 6 :D
When the billing time came, i thought the guys would loot me up as i was ordering beer from 9 PM onwards till 3 AM every half and hour or so..but the bill came to around 1000 pesos and the guys started taking 100 pesos bills to share in and in the talk i realised that all were just students having a good time and its in years that they got drunk unless its new years or something, so i just said when they graduate and if im still alive in cebu :) they could party me up sometime.
I dropped my chat mate and friends back home.
My observations:
It was something of a trance and blissful experience for me learning from their culture.
I think from what i have experienced it is a myth that Filipinos are after your money, may be i was not a white guy and they thought im like them but in no way the girls and her friends pushed me into anything. It was all normal.
I think for most of us, the value of money is what it can give in return but for them i think its some sort of sacrifice to get remain bounded.
We Indians thought our family bounding is stronger but when i met them i just got blown away, its not the way they care about others physically..its subtle and spiritual on how their bounding works.
For me and i think for most of us, its the bondage thats gets us pain and from that we run away most often from family and fiends but for them its exactly the bondage between them that keep them going stroung.
Most of male friends were gay and the other straight men had no steady gf's
One peculiar thing i noticed since i came here is Filipino men are very polite and soft spoken and have higher manners than me at least :)
Their social networking is like physical my space of sorts, they have bigger heart in comparison all i wanted was sex and i could get them easily here....but they care in a subtle way for their friend and families which we would fail to realize until we land here.
Im not sure if any Indian would give them so much respect if a filipino guy comes over to India and finds a girl there, they would treat him ordinary and ignore him.
And i already have friends in numbers to meet in all two weeks time
Between third world to third world comparison as they say i had a notion that Indians are better compared to Filipinos may be due to long historic cultural background and history of Philippines and the religious background we have
BUT boy how wrong i was, these are just book talking and general knowledge stuff...HEART TO HEART..MAN TO MAN..Filipinos are much HIGHER than any Indians i know and myself included. i would have never have entertained a Filipino as i got entertained here.
People say its all about money honey, but i beg to differ after experiencing them..i think..its not about money but about heart
Until, you land here, its all intellectual exercise on the net reading forums, to see the heart you have to come here and experience them.
Well, its hard to make a dog tail straight, i will be bar hoping and finding girls in malls et all..i just want to experience what they really are and i have just scratched the surface of who they really are.
Yeah no mongering report in this one, i just wanted to write what im experiencing along the way
In the coming weeks...once i figure some things about them, it will be all monger reports...i hope so or they change me for the better heheehe :D
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 22:51
[QUOTE=Born Loser 5]I'm in Cebu after lots of research.
Hi Bl, Nice report, would like to hear more. Your experience being from Indian backround is interesting .
Also interested in Korean Girls. I did not realize that they are available in Cebu or PI for that matter. Can you elaborateon this subject. Thanks Husky
Korean girl come and go in a fly in disco's and are mostly in groups, but if u see korean girls only group, you could give ur shot...but they are rerely alone or need of money as koreans who come here are students and from wealthy families from their look and motions :)
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 22:55
This has not been my experience. I am a big guy and I sweat a lot, so I tend to take lots of showers. However, walking around in the heat means that I sometimes have gone into bars when I was pretty sweaty, to the point I was embarrassed about it, but girls would tell me it was no problem. I use extra strength anti-perspirant that I bring from the USA, so I did not have much smell, but I was sticky with sweat.
I can think of 2 possible reasons for you having a different experience:
1. My experience has mostly been in Angeles and Subic. Maybe Cebu girls are different.
2. Due to their diet, Indian guys generally smell different than westerners, or even Koreans and Japanese. Maybe the girls are not used to this, and so they find a small amount of odor offensive.
I took an Indian fiend who lives in Singapore to Angeles, and while the girls were maybe not quite as enthusiastic about him as they would have been someone from another nationality who was equally good looking, fit, and nice, he did not really have any problems. Actually, once they talked to him he did really well, because he had gone to grad school in Manila and spoke some Tagalog.
I agree about the looks of the girls in the Korean-centric bars. I went into Volvo and Thunderdome, and while I think the hottest girls in the Mango bars can match them, the average was a lot higher there. No way I was paying a 5000 peso barfine, however.
I generally sweat a lot, but due to very hot climate in India..its ok with us back home..didn't know i got to adjust in all the departments :)...the other day, i got a compliment from the girl..which perfume i used...as she was kinda mesmerized with it :)
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 23:01
Nice, down to earth, report.
Hi Bill,
thanks..It will get better in Cebu :)
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 23:16
Great report BL hope you post again soon, it'd be interesting to hear more about your experiences with normal girls rather with bar girls. How many have you nailed so far?
In Paseo Disco...There are 10's and 100's of girls to go with and some lady boys too :) who seem like perfect stranger as you are too drunk to know who is who :), I was with the group i met on the net, read my report below
There are plenty of opportunities to pick girls there, they are just waiting to have you.
JUST BE CAUTIOUS>>IF YOU SEE A REALLY HOT GIRL>>BE CAREFULL as her boy friend may be around the corner and she may be hanging around with friends..it happned to me twice already in Ayala mall when i arrived and once in paseo :D
The girls move around while the boys drink :), they would come with you, may be later but don't wanna see if their BF's are around.
Just be patience in an hour or soo you will know which girl or group of girls are single and wanna get picked up :D
During my first night in paseo, two girls from thailand wanna come with me, but i was hell drunk at that time and my guide told me one of the girl is a bayot (lady boy)
Good Luck
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 23:19
The Koreans are NOT working as freelancers or even trying to pick up guys in Cebu. They are on a short stay to take a short English lesson. Most come from decent Korean families and don't need the money.
Yeah, it seems they are on a holiday and not to learn english..the way they party every night and be in every restaurents make you calculate how rich their parents are :D
But, some real stunners who you would not be able to see in Korea disco's would let their hair down here in cebu
Starchild2012
07-30-07, 23:33
Great post Born L, it's especially good to get a different view point. Very few of the guys here describe themselves. You focus on color / race, but age, weight, appearance, style, demeanor, and game all will affect the final outcome.
Well, now that I said that I guess I should describe myself. 40ish, slightly overwieght, Westerner, cue ball hair style. Girls often call me "guapo", but I also get "stuck up", at least before they talk to me.
Hey, if you need to get past the "brown" barrier a little quicker, you're welcome to be this white boy's wingman! Just don't expect me to go to those 5k places.
Some of those K girls are very hot. If I had more than a week in Cebu I would go after that. Think about it. They are on holiday, they are there to improve their English (hey baby, let's talk) and the Korean guys are busy barfining girls out of Viking. I think this would be especially lucrative for the under 40s guys. A lot of them stay at the Diplomat Hotel on Ramos Ave (same street as Holiday PLaza / Raintree mall). My experience is that people from a society with a strong group culture (Japan, Korea) tend to let their hair down when they are outside of the constraints of their society -- in other words, they get crazy when overseas on holiday. I'll never forget the hot little Korean I met in Tokyo who was wearing a US flag miniskirt....
Sweat? I keep a hankerchief in my pocket and use it to wipe down once I get in the bar. Often a lady will take it out of my hand and help out. Gotta love that kind of service.
And you are so right about the loss of protein. I had one lady who said she was "born horny" and then proved it with such gusto that I had a sore pubic bone and aching balls all the next day. We spent about 18 hours in bed, only getting out for showers/toilet and food. And I thank the Cialis God for helping with my stamina.
Anyway BL, good luck with your "religious movement"!
X Man
Hi X Man,
I agree looks do matter, Im in my 30's, with a sound body and shape but don't know how much longer i can hold on to it with beers, smoking, girls, every other day :)
Some korean girls i have seen in sun flower dance on for hours on end without stopping for a minute..as if they have breaked out of prision or something..ever happy and bar hoping .
If we look around for a while persistantly one can pick up a K chick..but once you go out..you hardly want a selection..every one is top class in its own right
We can hangout let me know when..I have being to bars and clubs..i think paseo the new bar which not too many folks know here is the best right now..
The drinks are very cheaper beer cost 35P unlike in bars their is no entry fee also and you got to see more than 100's of single girls to talk to flirt around and take home ..
The other day i was with my net friends...if we check out the girls one by one..we have to go as single men in groups and come back with flowers...
Good Luck
Well, if you smoke, stay away from me man. I don't care what kind of chick magnet you are, I hate the tobacco.
K girls for hours. Wow, you need to refocus your attentions. I have to admit, they are very hot. You didn't say so, but they tend to dance in groups / often women only groups. I think it might be better to meet them elsewhere and then suggest and evening out.
Does anyone have a strategy for meeting K girls at sunflower? Has anyone scored with a K girl? Can anyone get me a teaching job for the K girls?
BTW, looks don't matter. Some real dogs barfine some really hot women. I know, I'm one of them$
X man
Hi X Man,
I agree looks do matter, Im in my 30's, with a sound body and shape but don't know how much longer i can hold on to it with beers, smoking, girls, every other day :)
Some korean girls i have seen in sun flower dance on for hours on end without stopping for a minute..as if they have breaked out of prision or something..ever happy and bar hoping .
If we look around for a while persistantly one can pick up a K chick..but once you go out..you hardly want a selection..every one is top class in its own right
We can hangout let me know when..I have being to bars and clubs..i think paseo the new bar which not too many folks know here is the best right now..
The drinks are very cheaper beer cost 35P unlike in bars their is no entry fee also and you got to see more than 100's of single girls to talk to flirt around and take home ..
The other day i was with my net friends...if we check out the girls one by one..we have to go as single men in groups and come back with flowers...
Good Luck
Where is Paseo Disco?
Thank you.
In Paseo Disco...There are 10's and 100's of girls to go with and some lady boys too :) who seem like perfect stranger as you are too drunk to know who is who :), I was with the group i met on the net, read my report below
There are plenty of opportunities to pick girls there, they are just waiting to have you.
JUST BE CAUTIOUS>>IF YOU SEE A REALLY HOT GIRL>>BE CAREFULL as her boy friend may be around the corner and she may be hanging around with friends..it happned to me twice already in Ayala mall when i arrived and once in paseo :D
The girls move around while the boys drink :), they would come with you, may be later but don't wanna see if their BF's are around.
Just be patience in an hour or soo you will know which girl or group of girls are single and wanna get picked up :D
During my first night in paseo, two girls from thailand wanna come with me, but i was hell drunk at that time and my guide told me one of the girl is a bayot (lady boy)
Good Luck
Wander Luster
08-01-07, 02:04
Some of you guys who live year-around in Cebu know or maybe even ARE professors and universities.
How hard is it to fool around with students you meet (maybe not even a student in your class but one introduced by someone in your class).
Of course it's easy, but I mean what are the chances of getting in trouble? What is the "stigma" if other faculty or people in the university found out.
In the future I might be part time faculty or full time in cebu. Pay is shit but seems fun and a good way to meet all people (yes including of the female type).
You only need a Masters and to have good work experience for many departments in the good universities. I know one of the San .... schools has a great reputation and you'd think the girls have some money when they start. They are often TOTALLY broke and would love to hang with a foreigner for a couple little presents. You've hear of Jindaro Street (don't know spelling)? My best female, young, friend says a lot of the girls in the "line up" are from San... (Jose...Carlos..forget). They are that broke.
Starchild2012
08-01-07, 04:07
Well, if you smoke, stay away from me man. I don't care what kind of chick magnet you are, I hate the tobacco.
K girls for hours. Wow, you need to refocus your attentions. I have to admit, they are very hot. You didn't say so, but they tend to dance in groups / often women only groups. I think it might be better to meet them elsewhere and then suggest and evening out.
Does anyone have a strategy for meeting K girls at sunflower? Has anyone scored with a K girl? Can anyone get me a teaching job for the K girls?
BTW, looks don't matter. Some real dogs barfine some really hot women. I know, I'm one of them$
X man
Yeah to pick up K girls, sun flower is the best option but i have seem some k girls group in paseo hanging around.
So far i have not seen an "outsider" so to speak with any k girls :) may be thats a secret where they go with others..:)
and a san mig from me who would break in to their exclusive territory :)
The problem is they don't hang out with regular filipina girls groups too
Economically it would be better to hire english teachers in korea and teach them and there are lot of ESL teachers in korea.....but this is something different they spend more in partying than english lessons :)
I could control my smoking habits but of all the girls i have met, they are the ones to first ask for lighter and they say..after their studies in nursing they are too tensed so they smoke to chill out all good to me ..hehehehe
It will be good to hunt in pairs for K girls....count me in :D
Starchild2012
08-01-07, 04:11
Where is Paseo Disco?
Thank you.
Address:
Cabahug, Mabolo, near Mandue.
Better just say Paseo and every taxi driver knows it :)
youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxEn-_fW6bY
In size its compared to some of the bigger Ibiza night clubs or better..ONLY problem you would find is its gets crowded to the bone and you get sweaty really really bad, some of my friends bowed out cos of heat :)
A quick question guys, after I did RTTF, is the Plantation Bay resort gf?
Cheers
Starchild2012
08-01-07, 04:24
A quick question guys, after I did RTTF, is the Plantation Bay resort gf?
Cheers
All the hotels, resorts, pension house are girls friendly, i was too sceptical at first about vacation hotel which has no mention in the forum..but DS and other members advice i took the chance to bring my first exp. to the hotel and the guard was actually helpfull in checking the girls ID and registering her :)
A quick question guys, after I did RTTF, is the Plantation Bay resort gf?
Hello Strato,
PB is a nice place but it is located in the middle of nowhere out on Mactan Island. They have an open air lobby where you initially check in and then the rooms are located in buildings spread out over the property. So even if they were not gf, you could easily entertain various lady friends. Great place to hold up with your special someone for a few days! www.plantationbay.com
From the video it does not look like my scene, thanks anyway.
Address:
Cabahug, Mabolo, near Mandue.
Better just say Paseo and every taxi driver knows it :)
youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxEn-_fW6bY
In size its compared to some of the bigger Ibiza night clubs or better..ONLY problem you would find is its gets crowded to the bone and you get sweaty really really bad, some of my friends bowed out cos of heat :)
I generally sweat a lot, but due to very hot climate in India..its ok with us back home..didn't know i got to adjust in all the departments :)...the other day, i got a compliment from the girl..which perfume i used...as she was kinda mesmerized with it :)
Hey, good way to turn a negative into a positive!
Thanks Mattrick and Born Looser for the quick replies!
Hello Strato,
PB is a nice place but it is located in the middle of nowhere out on Mactan Island. They have an open air lobby where you initially check in and then the rooms are located in buildings spread out over the property. So even if they were not gf, you could easily entertain various lady friends. Great place to hold up with your special someone for a few days! www.plantationbay.com
Web Connect
08-01-07, 18:29
From the video it does not look like my scene, thanks anyway.Exactly. If you are old and fat (like me). You may as well forget it.
There are no freelancers at Paseo like at Sunflower. The girls are Paseo are with there real Pinoy friends and won't be seem picking up dirty old men (like me)
Address:
Cabahug, Mabolo, near Mandue.
Better just say Paseo and every taxi driver knows it :)
youtube link
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PxEn-_fW6bY
In size its compared to some of the bigger Ibiza night clubs or better..ONLY problem you would find is its gets crowded to the bone and you get sweaty really really bad, some of my friends bowed out cos of heat :)
Hell yeah, this looks good!! This is the the kind of disco I am used to here in europe. Not like Sunflower or NASA with those damn sitting tables covering 80% of the place...
What do you think about the chances to score a pretty NON-pro there? (i'm 22 years old, slim and fit)
Should be difficult since it's impossibe to have a conversation with the music beeing so loud....
Starchild2012
08-02-07, 17:20
Hell yeah, this looks good!! This is the the kind of disco I am used to here in europe. Not like Sunflower or NASA with those damn sitting tables covering 80% of the place...
What do you think about the chances to score a pretty NON-pro there? (i'm 22 years old, slim and fit)
Should be difficult since it's impossibe to have a conversation with the music beeing so loud....
you will score just about every girl there, but be carefull as some girls just dance leaving their boy friends behind, i being run into quite a lot :) but its all cool..
The youtube video shows some concert in paseo, but when i went it had tables and chair to booze...but the dancing area is big..but it gets soo crowded that you can't move..but squeeze in to pretty girls...:D
Just wondering whats Cebu is like. Is there much to do there beside bone women? What about the touristy things to do there?. I there enough to keep one entertained for a week or so? I've been to Phuket, just wondering about this joint. Is it much liek Phuket?
Thanks
Cebu is not like Phuket unfortunately.
In the city you can visit the famous church St. Nino, and near there is the old fort. Find a girl and go up to the top of the surrounding mountains for a nice view especially at sunset. Also up the mountain is a nice Chinese temple. That will keep you busy for a day or two. There are two large malls: SM and Ayala. Ayayla has some nice restaurants. I like Lemon Grass. Also at Ayayla is Ratsky's a large bar with live bands.
You can get on Ocean Jet, 90min to get to Bohol beaches (Panglao). There are some nice beaches on Cebu Island, but the beaches near Cebu city are not really recommended. There are some nice resorts on Mactan Island, but they tend to be expensive and the beach is artificial.
If you get bored in Cebu, it's fairly simple to go to some nearby spot. I think it cost me only 1500 pesos to go from Cebu to Davao using Cebu Pacific.
X Man
Web Connect
08-05-07, 01:42
you will score just about every girl there, but be carefull as some girls just dance leaving their boy friends behind, i being run into quite a lot :) but its all cool.You better choose your girl carefully because you won't get many chances.
Once you hook up with a girl you will be pretty much their boyfriend. Cebu is small and if you are known as a "Kaba kaba" (in Cebuano) or "Paru Paru ", "Paru-Paro" (in Tagalog), you will have a hard time finding a real girlfriend.
The people who go to Paseo are more of the employees of Call Centers and students. They go in groups and and the tables are all clicks of friends who already know each other. So it is not easy to just walk up to any table and just sit down and try to pick up a girl.
You have a better chance picking up a Freelancer at Sunflower. Be prepared to have to dance.
Adventurer5
08-06-07, 01:19
In Paseo Disco...There are 10's and 100's of girls to go with and some lady boys too :) who seem like perfect stranger as you are too drunk to know who is who :), I was with the group i met on the net, read my report below
Thanks Born Loser. Although you didn't actually answer my question regarding how many normal girls you bedded! Don't waste your money on prostitutes man, they're low class, living over there you've got a chance to have many REAL relationships with beautiful young women. Sex with them is vastly more enjoyable than sex with a bar girl who's only thinking of the money.
Good luck bro!
Adventurer5
08-06-07, 17:43
X Man, there's no reason to take my comment to heart so much. My point was that paid sex with prostitutes is the the least desirable kind of sex. Would you not prefer sex with a girl with a pronounced sexual and romantic interest in you to sex with a prostitute who feels no attraction towards you at all? What would most men prefer?
By 'real' relationship I mean a relationship with an element of love, even if the relationship is partly based on financial concerns on the part of the girl. I know that such relationships are possible with bar girls, but, they are generally not the best girls to have such a relationship with.
Starchild2012
08-06-07, 20:41
You better choose your girl carefully because you won't get many chances.
Once you hook up with a girl you will be pretty much their boyfriend. Cebu is small and if you are known as a "Kaba kaba" (in Cebuano) or "Paru Paru ", "Paru-Paro" (in Tagalog), you will have a hard time finding a real girlfriend.
The people who go to Paseo are more of the employees of Call Centers and students. They go in groups and and the tables are all clicks of friends who already know each other. So it is not easy to just walk up to any table and just sit down and try to pick up a girl.
You have a better chance picking up a Freelancer at Sunflower. Be prepared to have to dance.
You are right..most of the crowd is very young and always in groups and as i observed in my last report..all the best girls are taken :( by local guys...they too value beauty :D
I wanted to go there again this weekend..but my last weeks groups were hanging around and they wanted me to join them...with those guys and girls..there is no way i could pick up other chicks or even explore...she has already started taking me as her bf and querying about her b'day gift this week :(.mannnnnnnn
Starchild2012
08-06-07, 21:18
Thanks Born Loser. Although you didn't actually answer my question regarding how many normal girls you bedded! Don't waste your money on prostitutes man, they're low class, living over there you've got a chance to have many REAL relationships with beautiful young women. Sex with them is vastly more enjoyable than sex with a bar girl who's only thinking of the money.
Good luck bro!
Im trying to get normal decent girls :)
As you may know, im from India and skin color matters a lot here....there would be exceptions to pick best girls in town, if i had millions, that would balance my skin color .....but i have heard on my face...they don't like Indians..and they call us 5-6...as lot of indians here deal in lending business and have bad reputation of sorts..and its a done thing that we smell a lot to them :)
I have to double up everything in cost and costume to gel in and explain im not like that..
I could only pick up prostitutes or the normal girls that i would not pick up back home too as my gf i could pick them here but with high maintanence
Here its all Americanisation...everyone wants to be western or go to west..
Im hitting girls left and right here, but they give a second thought to it..my only other option not to go to bed single is to pick up the lowest which is available to me...you got it prostitutes :)
If you are white guy...no problemo...you will have no problem picking up normal chicks, the best chicks,centrefolds et all..you name it..
Paseo, sunflower, ayala, sm during day time are the best places to pick up girls..
to make my point..how many koreans, japanese we see picking regular chicks in discos very few..they all are in bars...doubling up prices to get laid :)
there will be calls that..some indians, asian(arabs, singapore, hongkong it all), japanese, koreans are with hot chicks here....it would be equal to as..some white guy got kicked out by a filipina and thats a real exception :D
It will be good i know in some time..i just got to wait...patience is virtue here for me...
Congratulations on your second post Adventurer5. Who is Adventurer1? BTW, how old are you and how many women have you had sex with? How many in PI?
Anyone who disses and entire category of employement is "low class" to me. As for the "sex", most of us on this list have had sex with a variety of women, and I doubt that many would agree with your assesment.
Yes, we have chances to have "REAL relationships" with women. I have / and continue to have "real" relationships in the Philippines as well as my country of residence - which is in the top five of GDP.
Maybe you should expand on the "real relationship" in the Philippines topic, instead of sending out a bunch of negativity. I suspect more than a few people on this list have had some "REAL" relationships with the working woman you describe as "low class". I know I have. I've fallend in love with a few.
Lastly, I'd like you to think about how "REAL relationships" work without money?
I'll apologize in advance for the gross overgeneralization (A5 set the example), but the only difference between a p4p girl and a wife is that one is thinking short term and the other is thinking long term. Both use a vagina to reach their goal.
Think about it.
A man with no dick is unlikely to find a wife -- how many eunichs marry? A "REAL" woman knows that she needs to have children so that her man continues to support her when she's grown old and wrinkled. That's the (marriage) contract between husband and wife.
But if he's and old fart with money, marriage is still possible...funny how that works. So, p4p girl expects compensation for short term vagina rental. Young filipina to one of us older guys may be counting on children, maybe not, but there is support and an inheiritance somewhere along the line.*
Then there is the typical marriage, lifetime vagina usage in return for lifetime financial support of the woman and the children. Oh, surprise, as employment opportunities increase for women, birth rates fall, marriage age gets later, and divorces increase. When women have job opportunities/ money, a penis becomes something other than a retirement package.
Do you think a woman with no vagina could find a man? Well, I guess she could pay for an escort. Does that make him a low-class guy?
Well, I know there are some holes in my generalization, please feel free to add your own ideas. I am happily divorced, but still a bit jaded. One guy I met recently had a pretty good counter arguement. He said "affection" and "she takes care of me." Well, I'm not sure what that means. Maybe....good cooking, good relationship, good sex....in some ways I envy him.
To be honest, I'd marry that nympho I met in AC last time, and would even cook for her, if only I could expect she wouldn't be fking anyone she met. It's hard to get the nympho, cook, faithful in one package. After all, she chatted with me for one minute and then sent a text, "I want sex". What a ****, god bless her. When we met at my hotel (in MLA two day later), I suggested we go eat. She wanted to take a shower....we went to eat about five hours later. She proudly says that she "was born horny".
X Man
* When I lived in California, I asked an attractive Filipina, "Are you single?", She answered, "my husband died and I bought a Corvette". Yes, that is a direct quote.
Thanks Born Loser. Although you didn't actually answer my question regarding how many normal girls you bedded! Don't waste your money on prostitutes man, they're low class, living over there you've got a chance to have many REAL relationships with beautiful young women. Sex with them is vastly more enjoyable than sex with a bar girl who's only thinking of the money.
Good luck bro!
HUH!!!!!!!!!!
Don't blame your skin color on your own inborn inepitude. What a twit. One of my favorite lady friends ( a virgin) married an Indian and they started up a business together. SHE seemed very proud and happy.
I suddenly got a very strange message asking me to bless HIS marriage, but I had no idea where it was coming from. (I don't spend all my time in the Philippines with only one gilr--duh).
Shortly after, the the twit started sending me threatening email message -- "she admits she met you at a hotel, what is going on??? I demand to know!". I thought I was being harassed by a lunatic, but I eventually found out the connection with the girl (who had not emailed me in two months). I guess the weirdo message was after he stole into her email account. Well, I have no idea.
I guess his wife told me that she was getting married. I didn't expect someone to ask me permission to get married. Hey, that may be your culture, not mine. Who knows, maybe she played him....telling him that there was another guy proposing marriage. I barely knew her.
I met her in the lobby of a 5-star hotel, and that is as far as I got. Be an obsessive jealous wanker and when your wife gets fed up, leaves you and hooks up with a white guy, you can blame it all on skin color.
white and bald x man who DOES NOT LIVE IN THE WEST / starting to wonder why I'm participating on this (mostly) list of fools.
BTW, one of my best friends in Japan is ethnic Indian, hooked nose, naughy playboy, and he does just fine. Night after night, he does well.
Another friend, American-Japanese who is fluent in Japanese, always says the white boys like me have the advantage. His hot J girlfriend (of five years) dumped him (two years ago) and he still blames it on skin color and still can't get a replacement. DUH.
Can I stop ranting now?
X Man
(oops, I got a tan when I was at the beach. The women are starting to avoid me.)
Im trying to get normal decent girls :)
As you may know, im from India and skin color matters a lot here....there would be exceptions to pick best girls in town, if i had millions, that would balance my skin color .....but i have heard on my face...they don't like Indians..and they call us 5-6...as lot of indians here deal in lending business and have bad reputation of sorts..and its a done thing that we smell a lot to them :)
I have to double up everything in cost and costume to gel in and explain im not like that..
I could only pick up prostitutes or the normal girls that i would not pick up back home too as my gf i could pick them here but with high maintanence
Here its all Americanisation...everyone wants to be western or go to west..
Im hitting girls left and right here, but they give a second thought to it..my only other option not to go to bed single is to pick up the lowest which is available to me...you got it prostitutes :)
If you are white guy...no problemo...you will have no problem picking up normal chicks, the best chicks,centrefolds et all..you name it..
Paseo, sunflower, ayala, sm during day time are the best places to pick up girls..
to make my point..how many koreans, japanese we see picking regular chicks in discos very few..they all are in bars...doubling up prices to get laid :)
there will be calls that..some indians, asian(arabs, singapore, hongkong it all), japanese, koreans are with hot chicks here....it would be equal to as..some white guy got kicked out by a filipina and thats a real exception :D
It will be good i know in some time..i just got to wait...patience is virtue here for me...
Fred C Dobbs
08-07-07, 07:23
X Man, there's no reason to take my comment to heart so much. My point was that paid sex with prostitutes is the the least desirable kind of sex. Would you not prefer sex with a girl with a pronounced sexual and romantic interest in you to sex with a prostitute who feels no attraction towards you at all? What would most men prefer?
By 'real' relationship I mean a relationship with an element of love, even if the relationship is partly based on financial concerns on the part of the girl. I know that such relationships are possible with bar girls, but, they are generally not the best girls to have such a relationship with.
I would agree with this generally but not with p4p filipinas. It's usually great sex and I like the honest exchange. I don't have to tell them lies and possibly hurt them to get it. All they want is money and not much of it. Besides they leave in the morning. A win/win/win situation for me.
Your comment "paid sex with prostitutes is the the least desirable kind of sex" has me aghast.
I have been fortunate enought in my life to, granted on occasion, find some gals who are stunning, friendly, funny, smart, and actually like their job. This has resulted in the wildest fun sex I have ever had.
When her knees are up around her ears - like a bunny rabbit - and she is slappy the back of your ass screaming for more, I just don see the "I love you honey" coming into play.
X Man, there's no reason to take my comment to heart so much. My point was that paid sex with prostitutes is the the least desirable kind of sex. Would you not prefer sex with a girl with a pronounced sexual and romantic interest in you to sex with a prostitute who feels no attraction towards you at all? What would most men prefer?
By 'real' relationship I mean a relationship with an element of love, even if the relationship is partly based on financial concerns on the part of the girl. I know that such relationships are possible with bar girls, but, they are generally not the best girls to have such a relationship with.
Thanks Billpsu for a wonderfully vivid and humorous post. Some guys get it and some don't. Love and sex are two different things despite the efforts of women (and religious folk) to convince us that they should always go together.
But, Billpsu, only "on occasion"? I actually had the pleasure of finding three wildcats on my most recent 20 day trip. Yes, this trip was good...very good.
Cebu wildcat attached. This is a girl who make you wonder which will fail first: your heart, your other organ, or the Cialis.
X Man
Your comment "paid sex with prostitutes is the the least desirable kind of sex" has me aghast.
I have been fortunate enought in my life to, granted on occasion, find some gals who are stunning, friendly, funny, smart, and actually like their job. This has resulted in the wildest fun sex I have ever had.
When her knees are up around her ears - like a bunny rabbit - and she is slappy the back of your ass screaming for more, I just don see the "I love you honey" coming into play.
This is a girl who make you wonder which will fail first: your heart, your other organ, or the Cialis.
Man, how do you manage to find these kind of girls??
At the end of my trip I was even happy with 'average sex'. Some of the chicks didn't know how to give bj, some didn't know how to ride...
Sure, the GFE can be nice, but I don't want to play a teacher, I just want to have great and long sex.
I got lucky. This girl was new in the Mango area bars. Maybe she was excited about her new job, or maybe hadn't serviced many white guys. She gave her all.
Ha, ha, "new" sounds appealing doesn't it? I found out later she'd been servicing Filipino guys at a Mactan KTV before she started her new job.
What freaked me out is she grabbed my crank and was pushing it into herself. She wasn't yet wet enough and I there was a lot of resistance. If I had been the one pushing I would have backed out and played a little so that she'd moisten up, or maybe put a little spit on my pecker for lubrication. But she kept pushing until she got it in.
After about the 3rd or 4th round I asked her why she was so sweet to me. Her relply, "because I don't have a boyfriend."
X Man
Man, how do you manage to find these kind of girls??
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Hello All,
I promised a day-by-day account of my cebu trip June 1st through july 15th and did report days 1 through 9 but then I posted no more. Sorry for breaking that promise but the last 30 days of my trip were spent in a situation in which I never was able to really focus on this web site and make my reports. As soon as I arrived back in the usa I packed my house and moved to another state and then have been setting up a new life till now. I'm now settled in my new home and shall finish this report. I'm sure that no one was holding their breath waiting for the conclusion but I said I'd report, so I shall finish it. I'll keep it short and sweet.
I met my "nice girl" from Leyte in Cebu and had a great make out session with her, got her shirt off and finally a hand job. She is a very clever lass. She is not taking any chances with her virginity with the likes of me until there is a ring involved. We saw each other every sunday until I left Cebu, mostly at restaurants and very little fooling around. This is the risk of chasing "nice girls" in the Philippines. Time can be invested with little return, but I am not complaining cause how can having a girl with model looks in my bed with her shirt off getting a and job be constued as "bad". Its just that I'll have to at least propose marriage to get more and I'm not willing to do that to her. I'll lie to get pussy, but I have a line I wont cross. Telling her I'll marry her and give a ring just to get fucked is just not my style any more. There is just ttoo much other pussy available and I'm not a cruel person.
I spent the next three weeks seeing 2 of the 500 peso pros that a friend turned me onto. They were both very pretty and would do everything I asked of them without hesitation except CIM which was disappointing but I survived.
Also during those 3 weeks I got a call from a girl who got my number from the memory on her cell phone. Apparently one of my little pros borrowed her phone to call me, thus leaving my number in her cell phone. She flirted with me so I got interested and asked to see some pictures on friendster and she gave me the info to see her account. She was 28 and had a kid but she was pretty so I told her to come by my place. She sat down at the table and me at the bed and the tv was on. She asked me if we were going to drink 1st. I thought this a strange idea. If she wanted to go out clubbing she should have said something before hand. She also asked me for cigarettes which I did not have. I gave her 100 peso and told her to go next store to the sari-sari and get her smokes and a beer. She returned 5 minutes later and drank 1/2 a beer and smoked a few cigarettes. It seems like she was stalling which led me to believe she was one of the millions of filipinas who had a kid and now needed to make money with the only asset they have, their ass. Fine with me, drink the beers to get your courage up and get your ass over here. But she finally came and joined me after just a 1/2 beer and we started slowly with some kissing. Her hand started to wander toward my crotch after a while and she asked me if she could touch my dick. Weird question. But i'm not shy so I had my pants off in an instant and she started stroking me while we kissed. Then she announces that she won't go all the way with me and that she has to leave. Wow. I told her that she got me really worked up, at least give me a release. She got on her knees between my leags and proceeded to give me the best blow job I ever had. At least tied for 1st place with the best bj's I ever had. Slow rhythm and steady and tongue action that was perfect. Incredible. I gave her 500 pesos and she left. I got a text the next day from her saying that she could not see me any more until she "solved" her problem". What problem? She needs 2500 pesos to pay her rent. What a shame. I told her thanks but no thanks and put into the category of "devious". By the way, I have no problem giving a girl 2500 for good service but her style turned me off. When I return to Cebu in January, I will see her again and pay her the 2500 that she insists on cause I that bj was that good. But I'll tell her she needs to stay all night to get that money. Knowing her, she will refuse and insist on short time.
After Cebu, I traveled to Subic and Makati. I saw a couple of girls with nothing interesting to report. These were not pros, but who have no problem sleeping with a foreigner who can take them out to a nice restaurant and give them a gift of soap or perfume etc. Both girls were not that pretty but sweet and very ordinary. These girls are very plentiful in the Phils. If you want to go to Cherry Blossoms or Friendster and can accept average looking girls, then you can fuck a lot of them for free or the cost of dinner.
My last 4 days were spent with a pretty little thing who I met online 3 months before my arrival. She made me very happy for my final days. She fucked and sucked like a pro but there was no attitude and actions of a pro. She was very satisfied with the chocolates and t-shirts and lotions/soap I gave her.
So, the final verdict is that trying to get "nice girls" to act like hookers in bed can be good or bad. Its fun and exciting to see how far I can get, but its a lot of work. I am actually leaning toward sticking with the pros. They are less work. The motive for being with me is money and its clear from the start. There's no pretending. Nobody knows what is really in the mind of a "good girl", which makes me have to think too much.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Wander Luster
08-24-07, 03:26
OK, I've done a lot of "shares" in here, and now I have a burning question. beware it's also posted in the "general" Phils section.
I know this kind of question has been asked in one form or another, but i just feel STUCK and in disbelief that the answer has to be so difficult.
I want to find a girlfriend from Cebu to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want a second to come along as well.
I usually wind up "dating" bar girls so that I don't have to pay their bar fine.
Lets say a girl worked in a bar and is doing nothing now after quiting (I know....be cynical...ok, she's fucking guys right and left and is for sure a no good lieing ***** that is taking advantage of me (-: )
The fact that she can show no consecutive employment is a strike against her getting a visa. Even if she were working in a bar for 12 straight months, would that help? If she could put on the application she worked at "Papion" and say it is a "restaurant"?
Then she has to have a ton of money in her bank account to get this visa. No, I don't trust her with 1000s, so I don't want to give her access to 1000s of USD in an acct. I could go to Cebu and fly with her or we could fly seperate.
Then....she can stay for, what 60 days MAX with all extensions? 60 is enough, but AT WHAT COST?
Bottom line is I read that one should just FORGET bringing a girl over on a tourist visa from the Philippines. Could it really be that bad?
I own a "LLC" company in the US. Would it be a better route to try to apply for the most limited work visa possible? This company has no employees in usa, just me, and her skills? ....well they are indeed very SPECIALIZED and DIFFICULT TO FIND in the US, but not quite what us imigration has in mind i think.
How the hell do I get her over here? I was looking at these "sugar daddy" websites and all these girls want $5000 to spend a couple days a week with you and also expect to be showered with gifts. I want a live in situation like I can have in the Phils! In a world of outsourcing this should be possible!
I'm relatively young and get girls in the US, but nothing can compare to a Asian live-in girlfriend who is willing to give you a lot of freedom if you are generous to her (RE: more about sex and money then a "real" serious relationship)
Thanks.
Member #4351
08-25-07, 04:30
Wander Luster, you posted the same thing word for word on the Thailand Forum and elsewhere on the Philippines threads. Are you a masochist?
Wander Luster
08-25-07, 04:41
Wander Luster, you posted the same thing word for word on the Thailand Forum and elsewhere on the Philippines threads. Are you a masochist?
David,
sorry 'bout that. This was a question that could have gone in any of the 3. I changed each to match the Forum....the Thailand post was very far from word for word. Agreed, though, not the best practice, but when a question must go in front of more eyes, most of whom don't read different forums, this is the only way to go. I figure I've contributed a shit load over the past decade to this and the the World S... G.... that I can be cut a little slack.
Your point is taken...will try to be sure to always warn if something is a cross-post (think i did in at least a couple of these that were put on 3 forums, but not same word for word)
OK, I've done a lot of "shares" in here, and now I have a burning question. beware it's also posted in the "general" Phils section.
I know this kind of question has been asked in one form or another, but i just feel STUCK and in disbelief that the answer has to be so difficult.
I want to find a girlfriend from Cebu to visit me on a tourist visa. In fact, I may want a second to come along as well.
I usually wind up "dating" bar girls so that I don't have to pay their bar fine.
Lets say a girl worked in a bar and is doing nothing now after quiting (I know....be cynical...ok, she's fucking guys right and left and is for sure a no good lieing ***** that is taking advantage of me (-: )
The fact that she can show no consecutive employment is a strike against her getting a visa. Even if she were working in a bar for 12 straight months, would that help? If she could put on the application she worked at "Papion" and say it is a "restaurant"?
Then she has to have a ton of money in her bank account to get this visa. No, I don't trust her with 1000s, so I don't want to give her access to 1000s of USD in an acct. I could go to Cebu and fly with her or we could fly seperate.
Then....she can stay for, what 60 days MAX with all extensions? 60 is enough, but AT WHAT COST?
Bottom line is I read that one should just FORGET bringing a girl over on a tourist visa from the Philippines. Could it really be that bad?
I own a "LLC" company in the US. Would it be a better route to try to apply for the most limited work visa possible? This company has no employees in usa, just me, and her skills? ....well they are indeed very SPECIALIZED and DIFFICULT TO FIND in the US, but not quite what us imigration has in mind i think.
How the hell do I get her over here? I was looking at these "sugar daddy" websites and all these girls want $5000 to spend a couple days a week with you and also expect to be showered with gifts. I want a live in situation like I can have in the Phils! In a world of outsourcing this should be possible!
I'm relatively young and get girls in the US, but nothing can compare to a Asian live-in girlfriend who is willing to give you a lot of freedom if you are generous to her (RE: more about sex and money then a "real" serious relationship)
Thanks.Sorry but you do not have a "snowballs chance in hell" for getting the girl into the US on a vistors visa. Also, the money you are talking about has to in an Philippine bank account for at least 6 months prior to the application. The only chance you have is to try a fiance visa or marry her first then apply.
Wander Luster
08-29-07, 04:33
Sorry but you do not have a "snowballs chance in hell" for getting the girl into the US on a vistors visa. Also, the money you are talking about has to in an Philippine bank account for at least 6 months prior to the application. The only chance you have is to try a fiance visa or marry her first then apply.
Yea, I think that is pretty clear now. Hope others that had similar ideas can learn from these posts...not do-able.
Hi,
Apologies for the newby-type question, I am more familiar with the Indonesia and Singapore circuits, so I will be glad to help anyone with that.
I am looking at spending a few days in Cebu. I want to find a hotel if possible by a nice beach (or very close to)so I can enjoy the beach during the day -- and bitches close by during the night. Where do you guys recommend I stay?
I have stayed at Shangri La Mactan before but way above my budget.
I appreciate pointers, thank you in advance.
I am looking at spending a few days in Cebu. I want to find a hotel if possible by a nice beach (or very close to)so I can enjoy the beach during the day -- and bitches close by during the night. Where do you guys recommend I stay?
Hello Mandiri,
Unfortunately, all of the so called "Beach Hotels" are located far from the action. Your looking at up to a 30 minute ride to the clubs in Lapu-Lapu City and up to an hour commute to the midtown area of Cebu City. What you might want to do is find a girl first and then bring her back to the resort for a day or two. Maybe try Tambuli Beach Club West (cheap) or TBC East (cheapest). Either way the beaches on Mactan island are average at best.
Have a good trip!
Mattrick has already given you the bad news. Puerto Galera and Subic Bay are the only places I know where there is ample p4p near the beach.
On Mactan, the Mermaid bar had some really hot p4p, but the prices were high. Has anyone been to King Kong KTV in Lapu Lapu?
Another option is find a lady and then take the Ocean Jet ferry to Panglao/Bohol. There is a beautiful beach there.
http://www.oceanjet.net/
X Man
Hi,
Apologies for the newby-type question, I am more familiar with the Indonesia and Singapore circuits, so I will be glad to help anyone with that.
I am looking at spending a few days in Cebu. I want to find a hotel if possible by a nice beach (or very close to)so I can enjoy the beach during the day -- and bitches close by during the night. Where do you guys recommend I stay?
I have stayed at Shangri La Mactan before but way above my budget.
I appreciate pointers, thank you in advance.
Thank you guys for the pointers about Cebu beach-bitches packaged deal, I appreciate it. I will report back after I come back from my trip.
Cheers
A tourist visa is basically impossible in the situation you described. However, a Business visa is much more possible, however, the duration of stay will probably be rather limited. (It depends on the purpose of the visit--usually they are approved for the purpose of attending a convention, meeting with suppliers, etc.) So, if your purpose is a live-in partner this might not work. Of course, she can always overstay or enroll in classes and attempt a student visa.
Not sure if that helps any.
Sorry but you do not have a "snowballs chance in hell" for getting the girl into the US on a vistors visa. Also, the money you are talking about has to in an Philippine bank account for at least 6 months prior to the application. The only chance you have is to try a fiance visa or marry her first then apply.
Hi,
I am continuing to do my research ahead of my few days' trip to Cebu. Where are the good places to meet regular girls (not P4P chicks) during the day time --during night time, this is already well documented in this section.
I am keen on hooking up with a chick I like and spending time with her banging her, visiting places etc if the chemistry is right.
Keen to hear your views as to the best places to meet girls during the day -- I am certainly no mall hunter expert though.
Many thanks in advance,
One idea is to make some introductions online and then meet them upon arrival. Cherry Blossom, Filipina Heart seem to be the most popular. There is a thread here for more specific info about that.
Other than that, if you have a cell phone, make up some cards, give them to ladies. I remember one guy put his number on peso notes, but I thought that was a bit tacky. Sales staff at the malls might be one target, but the opportunities are only limited by your imagination -- and the fact that you have only a "few days".
X Man
Hi,
I am continuing to do my research ahead of my few days' trip to Cebu. Where are the good places to meet regular girls (not P4P chicks) during the day time --during night time, this is already well documented in this section.
I am keen on hooking up with a chick I like and spending time with her banging her, visiting places etc if the chemistry is right.
Keen to hear your views as to the best places to meet girls during the day -- I am certainly no mall hunter expert though.
Many thanks in advance,
One idea is to make some introductions online and then meet them upon arrival. Cherry Blossom, Filipina Heart seem to be the most popular. There is a thread here for more specific info about that.
Other than that, if you have a cell phone, make up some cards, give them to ladies. I remember one guy put his number on peso notes, but I thought that was a bit tacky. Sales staff at the malls might be one target, but the opportunities are only limited by your imagination -- and the fact that you have only a "few days".
X Man
Thanks for the pointers. I am doing your proposed approached using the Date In Asia dating site. My concern with this approach is that I end up meeting up a gal met on-line and I don't like her (because I have not met her face to face before... I guess I can always find an excuse to "dump" her...
It sounds like shopping malls are the best place to hunt during the day in Cebu...I am not really comfy with mall hunting, I guess I will have to step up to the place ...
Will certainly report back after my trip.
i remember i missed an oportunity in manila once when at robinsons ermita buying some briefs and the sales girl went gaga over me. shud of arranged a date then and there.
I am doing your proposed approached using the Date In Asia dating site. My concern with this approach is that I end up meeting up a gal met on-line and I don't like her (because I have not met her face to face before... I guess I can always find an excuse to "dump" her...
I am using Date in Asia and I have met some good friends. I use the "let's do lunch" as the first meeting and if it isn't right, I don't have to make a excuse. I always have to go back to work and I tell them that before we meet. If we click, I ask them to dinner.
I am going to Manila next week and I have three from DIA set up for lunch. I will report how it goes.
Only three months left here in the Philippines and I am crying already.
Robb
Let's stop all this crap about Shopping Malls. The girls are everywhere and are approachable everywhere.
If you limit your operations to Shopping Malls you are restricting your chances of success way too much.
Get on the programme , and off the bar stool , move around and be open to gestures everywhere you go , everywhere.
Cebu City is pick up Central.
Has anyone stay here before? Elegant Circle Inn?
I am trying to find a Hotel in Cebu, Budget with a Massage Parlour.
The hotel I was going to stay at has doubled in Price!
Don Roberts
09-08-07, 07:52
I stayed there 5 years ago more or less- Ok= Nothing special- Right on Osmena circle- Walk to Siver Dollar. Hotel had 2 sections= Old section cheaper, Also try Eddie's Tourist Hotel- (walk to Lonestar & Mango Ave bars. Have fun!
Walked by it a hundred times, its a dog with fleas.
Has anyone stay here before? Elegant Circle Inn?
I am trying to find a Hotel in Cebu, Budget with a Massage Parlour.
The hotel I was going to stay at has doubled in Price!
Only once have I found worthwile p4p at a mall. Even hitting on regular girls has some risks -- not the least is that you'll often have an audience.
Of course the sales ladies have every reason to be talking to you. Those are the ones I go after.
So, Joker, care to tell us about one of your success stories? And what kind of "gestures" are you using?
X
Let's stop all this crap about Shopping Malls. The girls are everywhere and are approachable everywhere.
If you limit your operations to Shopping Malls you are restricting your chances of success way too much.
Get on the programme , and off the bar stool , move around and be open to gestures everywhere you go , everywhere.
Cebu City is pick up Central.
The following is in response to Xmans comments:
Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.
Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.
Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.
Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.
Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.
Luvulooongtime
09-11-07, 17:21
I have had luck once with counter girl named Maricel, an 8. 5 with beautiful face and ass. Sadly she was not so great in the sack. My cousins introduced me to her after I spied her counter mate Weng. Both were working at ShoeMart in Megamall in Manila. Weng was a 9. 5! Damn near perfect! Bod and face. I wanted to meet Weng but cousins mistakenly talked to Maricel. LOL. ; (and arranged date. I am sure you can pick up these girls regardless of age if you a little charm (I am 48 and somewhat handsome; )) and if you are presentable and do not look like Quasimodo / Frankenstein. Go to the make up counter at the big stores, they tend to have the beautiful ones there. Only problem is time; (These girls tend to work 12 hour days six days a week. So you have to see them after work or they have get a few days off to see you, apparently this is not easy for them. Luvulooongtime P.S. Filipina Heart is good too for regular girls. I met J. A 7 in looks college girl but a 9. 5 in performance. Her picture she posted looked like a 9, but in person a 7. We were doing the horizontal bop within 1 hour of meeting. That young lady could suck a golf ball through a garden hose.
Luvulooongtime
09-11-07, 17:37
My advice is be an alpha male. Be honest, courteous, respectful, funny, clean, dress well, and be quiet and confident. Boastfulness and loudness are a real turn-offs to pinays. In my experience the pinoys in general do not treat the women well, so if you are decent you will have to fight them off. As long as you are not an asshole, you are in.
Luvuloongtime
Wander Luster
09-12-07, 05:00
The following is in response to Xmans comments:
Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.
Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.
Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.
Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.
Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.
You are right BUT there is a big but. P4P saves time! Some of us do it just for that reason. If you walk through the bars around Mango you know that almost every girl is available that night. If you are some hot shit guy that meets the ideal of the girls there more than any other guy: you will have a better time and maybe pay less. I often had 2.5 hours free time in a day that I was NOT sleeping or in the office.
Best thing was to cruise the bars for 45 minutes with extreme hawk-eyes for the most stellar lookers who'd smile back at me and not waste much time before seeing if they want a bar fine. I always liked a GF experience with them but even that was possible if I was a gentleman to them for that VERY short "get to know you" time.
Now, imagine you are the #1 hot shit guy (I was going to say Tom Cruise, but I forgot he's proby no one's "ideal") that meets the ideals of girls in malls , on walking about town, etc. OK, You have everything going for you. But if you don't have time to waste know this: you have a 50% chance you will NOT get laid. 1/2 the fucking girls that are not married are virgins! Cebu is more roman catholic than Rome! Acually, i've only been in rome for 3 days, so not so sure about that.
It is true that a lot of the time the non-pro girls knew I had a serious significant other in the US...because I had to make sure they were discreet or my employees might see me walking with them with there arm around me. But, I often told the girls I met that they should know that AT LEAST FOR NOW I am/was not marriage material.
I used to work 80 hours a week running my own company in Cebu. I met a lot of girls online and only went after the 8.5-9s. I am lucky that I am good at the Pick-up thing. BUT, the unmarried/not divorced girls will only let you play with their tities 1/2 the time. That's all. Maybe going for the girls that are separated and you don't run into this stupid virgin until marriage thing. And I think it's scummy and low life to lie in a big way to girls to get them to sleep with you-- especially if they are in a 3rd world country (if in 1st world country, it's less scummy). "My God, you could be my WIFE you are so perfect I think I will Die if I don't sleep with you tonight". The 2nd part is ok, but the 1st is scummy.
Cheers!
Ref Wander Lusters post :
"Yes , well just to clarify for others.
I was not knocking pay4play. I never mentioned it. You are now comparing pay4play with hunting for regular women.
A completely new item for discussion by anyone who is interested".
Let's drop the words bar stools and bar talk out of my posts , because I do not want to discuss pay4play as compared to regular girls , a different subject altogether.
My original idea was to debunk the theory that Shopping Malls are the panacea , for finding regular girls. It's a nonsense theory I have personally grown tired of.
Mongers should be at the ready wherever they are. Once you see the glad eye , try your luck. Rejection is part of the game. Toughen up and keep at it. The rewards are worth it.
Build up a stable of fillies. When in need , they are only a cell phone call away.
Luvulooongtime
09-12-07, 16:36
Wander Lust is right in terms of time. My point is you can fuck some regular ladies without lying to them. I spend three weeks vacation in PI so I have time to cultivate a relationship with regular women. I got lucky and met a girl of 19 through filipina heart who did not want to get married, but just fuck! Her sister threatened to kick her out and stop supporting her college education if she continued to see me; ). I even ofrered her money after one of our sessions and bless her heart she would not take it. Even when she knew I was going to see other women she told me to "have a good time. " So it is possible to get freebies with out resorting to trickery. I think WL estimate of 50% virgins jibes with my experience. My only point is you can P4P and screw some real honeys too if you have the time. Doing both makes for one fun time!
Luvulooongtime
This may be a continuation of my comments, but isn't the "response" I asked for. Although I agree with (almost) everything you say, I was hoping for a story.
You do have one, don't you?
X
The following is in response to Xmans comments:
Cynicism and sarcasm will get you nowhere.
Use your imagination to come up with m.o's and then your personality to execute those m.o's.
Gestures. Try smiling for starters. Rest is up to your ability to strike up a conversation. Being shy will get you nowhere.
Of course it will help if your minus a beer belly and dressed properly. Plastic thongs, T. Shirts and bar talk will not suffice.
Open your mind and the girls will open their legs.
Wander Luster
09-12-07, 19:14
Wander Lust is right in terms of time. My point is you can fuck some regular ladies without lying to them. I spend three weeks vacation in PI so I have time to cultivate a relationship with regular women. I got lucky and met a girl of 19 through filipina heart who did not want to get married, but just fuck! Her sister threatened to kick her out and stop supporting her college education if she continued to see me; ). I even ofrered her money after one of our sessions and bless her heart she would not take it. Even when she knew I was going to see other women she told me to "have a good time. " So it is possible to get freebies with out resorting to trickery. I think WL estimate of 50% virgins jibes with my experience. My only point is you can P4P and screw some real honeys too if you have the time. Doing both makes for one fun time!
Luvulooongtime
Joking and Luvulooongtime,
I agree pretty much entirely with what you both of you. Really is two different situations. As for my %50, I should have noted that this is really more true for girls that intend to get 2 years education after high school. If they are from a poor or relatively poor family then the idea of saving virginity is usually not as much a part of the "culture" of people like them in Cebu.
Saving virginity for marriage is pisses me off to know end-- especially for the girls' sake. Funny thing is it's the "more educated" classes or groups that want to go by that rule even though a girl might not mary until age 27.
Re Xmans latest comments. I was surprised with the genteely of his answer. He might be a bit of a ladies man yet, lol.
Yes I do have a story to tell about my success and failures hunting young fillies over almost 35yrs. Many stories, and most if not all, very interesting/entertaining, especially the rejections, ha ha.
However these stories are in my book, yet to be published before my demise, ie, departure from planet earth. I hope my book inspires others to maintain the rage until the death.
I expect Xman to be first in line to read my book lol. Special discount to all ISG contributors. Sorry , lurkers have to pay the full price.
Gentlemen, its all in your mind. You can do it, because old farts like me are still doing it, and from time to time, successfully. Persistence pays.
Any comments on the "user friendliness" of the Richmond vs. Eddies Hotel would be much appreciated. I'll be heading over in a few weeks and have heard fair reviews on these places, but not so much from this forum.
Thanks!
Lol, I meant to ask friendly re LAPTOPS not the alternative!
Wander Luster
09-22-07, 00:39
Any comments on the "user friendliness" of the Richmond vs. Eddies Hotel would be much appreciated. I'll be heading over in a few weeks and have heard fair reviews on these places, but not so much from this forum.
Thanks!
Richmond is a curious place. If I'm not mixing it up, because I've stayed in almost every "decent-good" hotels, it was the best value I ever got. I some big problems with the way staff handled stuff (not fixing a broken fan in the month to month apartment of theirs I was renting for example) but it might have been bad luck. I think if you are looking for a good price monthly rental this is a MUST for anyone to check out.
My experiences might have been bad luck. The staff are generally same as elsewhere and pleasant.
I have NEVER had a problem bring girls from bars to hotel rooms. NEVER....over 100 times in cebu.
Does anyone know of any near Cebu city? Cant stand these little rooms that the Mariot has, I know Midland is a little bigger. I use to like Cebu Plaza but is it still closed?
Wander Luster
09-23-07, 16:09
Does anyone know of any near Cebu city? Cant stand these little rooms that the Mariot has, I know Midland is a little bigger. I use to like Cebu Plaza but is it still closed?
I can virtuallly guarentee you won't find better rates then the discounts the hotels give for one month stay.
Your only option is to do a 6 month lease. Check Sun Star for that or call a broker. For the value, apartments are not as good as houses, but they can be more quite.
This little 20 year old cutie was great last paddy's day. Polished a knob like a pro. Apparently her LA Cafe clientele has spoiled her rotten. 6 months later I take her to Cebu and she is taking possession of everthing of mine she could get her paws on. 10x greedier than anything I have ever met anyplace. Punters beware: Some pinoy dude was texting her constantly and her head would cock and she'd smile. Suddenly the knobbers went from "like buttah" to sticking your johnson in a small sandsharks mouth (never tried it). She got a little ugly when I got a second room my last night and brought something back from the bars. She lives on pork belly as that is all she can chew after losing 1/2 her back molars. She will be a roly poly pinoy punkinhaid with 1/2 her teeth in another year or so. Pity the poor provincial working girl!!
getting ready to start another philippines trip (davao first, arriving tomorrow) but i never did get around to reporting on the last one a couple of months ago.
eric the red was the new bar where i had the most fun. there were two sisters there that were hot and fun to be with. one was quiet and shy and the other outgoing. i only got around to taking out the outgoing one. pictures are in the photo section. it's next to black hole. in fact it was carved out of the former billiards area of black hole.
black hole itself seemed to be coming out of its decline. better selection of girls with a better attitude. viking bar was a bit down from before. fewer girls and more of them had a mercenary attitude. sisters bar and dimples were neither here nor there. i went into papillon for the first time in a long while. i probably won't be back for an even longer while.
silver dollar, as always, was loads of fun. and this time, as a bonus, had an actual young hottie (also posted in the photos). lone star also had several gorgeous ones that i never got around to trying.
i went to paseo for the first time. it's a large open area, sort of the food court concept applied to night life. it's down the road from the marriott, past castle peak hotel and just past where the road makes a sharp turn. i only used it for dates but i think this place is always a possibility for pickups. there's space for over a thousand.
da pump was still going strong. it's a big korean hangout as well as for young filipinas. sometimes too young as a matter of fact. check ages and then double check before you take anything home from here. i ended up taking a late 20s filipina home from here. she had been trying to hook me up with someone who i was afraid was ****, so i went with the older one to be on the safe side.
sunflower is a shell of its former self. even on weekends the upstairs is mostly uninhabited. there don't seem to be many freelancers around the bar these days. i guess the higher cover charges of scared them off. also, with the paseo and the entertainment area around fuente there is more competition. there are still pickup opportunities here sometimes though.
when i was staying at waterfront lahug i crossed the street into the technology park. for several hundred yards there is a line of office buildings. on the ground floor of each one there are coffee shops and fast food places. all of these buildings seem to have call center and lots of young women are going to work in them. it might be worth it to time a walk through here so that it's just before or after u.s. daytime working hours. i know there are loads of young it hotties working in these places.
i also stayed at marriott. it's still gf and all that. for now the problem is all the construction in the park between there and ayala mall. you have to walk around it. when the park is open there are often groups of girls sitting around that you can talk to. this construction has also caused the closure of cafe havana and a couple of upscale eating places that fronted on the park.
Wander Luster
10-05-07, 05:19
getting ready to start another philippines trip (davao first, arriving tomorrow) but i never did get around to reporting on the last one a couple of months ago.
eric the red was the new bar where i had the most fun. there were two sisters there that were hot and fun to be with. one was quiet and shy and the other outgoing. i only got around to taking out the outgoing one. pictures are in the photo section. it's next to black hole. in fact it was carved out of the former billiards area of black hole.
black hole itself seemed to be coming out of its decline. better selection of girls with a better attitude. viking bar was a bit down from before. fewer girls and more of them had a mercenary attitude. sisters bar and dimples were neither here nor there. i went into papillon for the first time in a long while. i probably won't be back for an even longer while.
silver dollar, as always, was loads of fun. and this time, as a bonus, had an actual young hottie (also posted in the photos). lone star also had several gorgeous ones that i never got around to trying.
i went to paseo for the first time. it's a large open area, sort of the food court concept applied to night life. it's down the road from the marriott, past castle peak hotel and just past where the road makes a sharp turn. i only used it for dates but i think this place is always a possibility for pickups. there's space for over a thousand.
da pump was still going strong. it's a big korean hangout as well as for young filipinas. sometimes too young as a matter of fact. check ages and then double check before you take anything home from here. i ended up taking a late 20s filipina home from here. she had been trying to hook me up with someone who i was afraid was ****, so i went with the older one to be on the safe side.
sunflower is a shell of its former self. even on weekends the upstairs is mostly uninhabited. there don't seem to be many freelancers around the bar these days. i guess the higher cover charges of scared them off. also, with the paseo and the entertainment area around fuente there is more competition. there are still pickup opportunities here sometimes though.
when i was staying at waterfront lahug i crossed the street into the technology park. for several hundred yards there is a line of office buildings. on the ground floor of each one there are coffee shops and fast food places. all of these buildings seem to have call center and lots of young women are going to work in them. it might be worth it to time a walk through here so that it's just before or after u.s. daytime working hours. i know there are loads of young it hotties working in these places.
i also stayed at marriott. it's still gf and all that. for now the problem is all the construction in the park between there and ayala mall. you have to walk around it. when the park is open there are often groups of girls sitting around that you can talk to. this construction has also caused the closure of cafe havana and a couple of upscale eating places that fronted on the park.
nice report. if anyone is looking for "educated girls" ....you hit it on the head about these places where the call center girls work.
they also gotta love americans if they took a job talking to them all day. and they are eager to meet americans in the flesh after talking all day?
i've found black hole can be a gold mind from time to time. am i right in thinking they are more relaxed with rules for "employees"? i've gone with babes from there that could be at the highest priced clubs. they say they just come work when they feel like it (a few weeks at a time or not a full week). other bars do not allow that.
plenty of scags at bh though, gotta get lucky to some extent ...at least walk in and use the bathroom and take a quick scan.
Hi,
In Cebu now for a few days and the mongering is going well, thanks partially to the info on this board. Now is time for me to give back some information.
I know Club Pump has been detailed already here, but this is the place I have spent my wednesday and thursday evenings with success.
Great place in the sense that lots of girls, usually very easy to approach, lots of security staff who are very friendly and makes one feel secure, cheap drinks (50 P for a San Mig, 40P for a coke).
On weekdays, do not go there before midnight as there is very few people there. Things get busy after that and even more busy after 2am/2.30am -- i guess because other clubs/KTV's close and girls come in the PUMP to end the evening.
On the first evening, I met a local 22 yo with huge breasts. We made out etc but she was with friends and being a good girl did not want a bang on first night. I am meeting her tonight to close the deal.
Yesterday I got picked up (literally) by a KTV girl (Shinjuku KTV, very Japanese focused place she says) who came over to PUMP. We ended up in my hotel, I did not have to pay anything, great shag, one shot during the night one in the morning. Made some other cotnacts at PUMP which I will follow up with.
Overall, great place.
Happy mongering !
How old are you?
What was the age group of white males, if any, you saw there.
Thanks.
Hi,
In Cebu now for a few days and the mongering is going well, thanks partially to the info on this board. Now is time for me to give back some information.
I know Club Pump has been detailed already here, but this is the place I have spent my wednesday and thursday evenings with success.
Great place in the sense that lots of girls, usually very easy to approach, lots of security staff who are very friendly and makes one feel secure, cheap drinks (50 P for a San Mig, 40P for a coke).
On weekdays, do not go there before midnight as there is very few people there. Things get busy after that and even more busy after 2am/2.30am -- i guess because other clubs/KTV's close and girls come in the PUMP to end the evening.
On the first evening, I met a local 22 yo with huge breasts. We made out etc but she was with friends and being a good girl did not want a bang on first night. I am meeting her tonight to close the deal.
Yesterday I got picked up (literally) by a KTV girl (Shinjuku KTV, very Japanese focused place she says) who came over to PUMP. We ended up in my hotel, I did not have to pay anything, great shag, one shot during the night one in the morning. Made some other cotnacts at PUMP which I will follow up with.
Overall, great place.
Happy mongering !
How old are you?
What was the age group of white males, if any, you saw there.
Thanks.
I am in my mid-30's. Quite frankly, there are not so many westerners in this place, a few of them in their 30's early 40's perhaps. Mostly locals and Koreans (the Koreans, both guys and gals, seem to tend to stay among themselves)...
Why are you asking ?
Oh, one other word of caution. I find that there can be quite a few bayot's/transvetites out here in Cebu, both a the PUMP but also at Sunflower and Ayala mall (a couple of them were making big time eye contact with me at ayala mall in the middle of the afternoon).
Wander Luster
10-07-07, 06:01
Hi,
In Cebu now for a few days and the mongering is going well, thanks partially to the info on this board. Now is time for me to give back some information.
I know Club Pump has been detailed already here, but this is the place I have spent my wednesday and thursday evenings with success.
Great place in the sense that lots of girls, usually very easy to approach, lots of security staff who are very friendly and makes one feel secure, cheap drinks (50 P for a San Mig, 40P for a coke).
On weekdays, do not go there before midnight as there is very few people there. Things get busy after that and even more busy after 2am/2.30am -- i guess because other clubs/KTV's close and girls come in the PUMP to end the evening.
On the first evening, I met a local 22 yo with huge breasts. We made out etc but she was with friends and being a good girl did not want a bang on first night. I am meeting her tonight to close the deal.
Yesterday I got picked up (literally) by a KTV girl (Shinjuku KTV, very Japanese focused place she says) who came over to PUMP. We ended up in my hotel, I did not have to pay anything, great shag, one shot during the night one in the morning. Made some other cotnacts at PUMP which I will follow up with.
Overall, great place.
Happy mongering !
How do you TALK to anyone there? Is there a quit place to divert girls from the otherwise imposible to hear club.
Also, anyone go to the "higher end" bars across from country mall. Forget the name ...." ....center mall" and new in the last 2 years. I almost rented an apartment 2 blocks from country mall and the "center" across the street (not living in PH right now)
How do you TALK to anyone there? Is there a quit place to divert girls from the otherwise imposible to hear club.
Also, anyone go to the "higher end" bars across from country mall. Forget the name ...." ....center mall" and new in the last 2 years. I almost rented an apartment 2 blocks from country mall and the "center" across the street (not living in PH right now)
Seriously, how much talking do you really need ? I't all about eye contact, smiling, and then if you can't hear what they say, use the text function of your cell, you type your name they type theirs as you 'talk' to each other... works well, creates a bond between the two of you. Then you drag them outside the club to the patio, and either you sit down at one of the many outdoor tables or have a walk.
It has worked well for me in any case, find your own way, I am sure you will.
I don't know why he asked, but I can guess. Whatever results and price (if any) you pay depends on many things. Age, looks, disposition and location matter a lot.... I'm 40ish, bald, with a bit of a belly. I do pretty well, but not nearly as well as when I was 20.
I can dance, but my 2007 identity sticks out like a sore thumb in a place like Sunflower or Pump. My 1980ish identity was going "down, down, down..." to the B-52's Rock Lobster beat at a time when the bikinied bar girls danced on stage and also danced on the dance floors with the customers. The girls took me home fed me and fucked me (not always in that order nor quantity) and if it was the day before a military payday, they wouldn't expect much if any cash.
I can still pull regular girls (Philippines 19+ / Japan 28+) even at my advanced geriatric state. With age comes wisdom (and sometimes a better income) which creates different opportunities. Nevertheless, read the Pattaya threads....when an aircraft carrier full of horny young bucks comes to town, the guys in the know find greener pastures.
To sum up, if you want to talk about your low-cost, or $-free conquests, give us the details of the hunt and who you are (nothing too personal of course).
X Man / sidenote: just spent the weekend on the U of M campus. OMG, walk or cruise down the fraternity/ sorority strip just befor a UM football game and you will see some hot young flesh....thanks to global warming it was 70+.
[QUOTE=Mandiri]I am in my mid-30's. SNIP Why are you asking ?
QUOTE]
Member #4351
10-09-07, 02:22
I did a search and didn´t find anything, so if this information has been posted previously, please forgive me.
I am winding up a one week stay here in Cebu, my first, at the tail end of a month´s visit to this part of the world and wish I had listened to all those who told me to forget about Thailand and concentrate on the Philippines. I met a nice guy here also staying at the Marriott who feels the same way I do, and we want to come back in around 5 months or so and rent a nice apartment for a month.
Should I just use google and see what I come up with or does someone have some suggestions. We want a nice place...maybe with pool in a good section of town. Obviously with plenty of space for two guys...budget around $1,000 or maybe somewhat more. Thanks for any information you might be able to give me.
Wander Luster
10-09-07, 05:30
I did a search and didn´t find anything, so if this information has been posted previously, please forgive me.
I am winding up a one week stay here in Cebu, my first, at the tail end of a month´s visit to this part of the world and wish I had listened to all those who told me to forget about Thailand and concentrate on the Philippines. I met a nice guy here also staying at the Marriott who feels the same way I do, and we want to come back in around 5 months or so and rent a nice apartment for a month.
Should I just use google and see what I come up with or does someone have some suggestions. We want a nice place...maybe with pool in a good section of town. Obviously with plenty of space for two guys...budget around $1,000 or maybe somewhat more. Thanks for any information you might be able to give me.
Not only was it posted, but my post is one of the last 25 on this thread (-: take a look.
Wander Luster
10-09-07, 05:33
Seriously, how much talking do you really need ? I't all about eye contact, smiling, and then if you can't hear what they say, use the text function of your cell, you type your name they type theirs as you 'talk' to each other... works well, creates a bond between the two of you. Then you drag them outside the club to the patio, and either you sit down at one of the many outdoor tables or have a walk.
It has worked well for me in any case, find your own way, I am sure you will.
Seems a lot harder then somewhere you can talk first...but the "drag...patio" that allows things to move in the right direction. I guess dancing can "get it going" and then drag 'em out. Have done that at sunflower...quite a number of "good" girls there though. If I had there cell they might not be so good the next day when seperated from girlfriend in club.
Member #4351
10-09-07, 17:49
Wander Luster,
I had read that post but wanted another opinion. However after doing some research, I tend to agree with you and will probably end up back at the Marriott. Very few short term rental markets around like one finds in Buenos Aires.
Wander Luster
10-10-07, 04:14
Wander Luster,
I had read that post but wanted another opinion. However after doing some research, I tend to agree with you and will probably end up back at the Marriott. Very few short term rental markets around like one finds in Buenos Aires.
I looked very hard and very long. You'll get a little discount from a hotel, but that's best you can do. Try the Richmond. They do have monthly APARTMENTS that are priced similar but much better than normal rooms. Not as nice as marriot though.
Desert Don
10-13-07, 08:21
I looked very hard and very long. You'll get a little discount from a hotel, but that's best you can do. Try the Richmond. They do have monthly APARTMENTS that are priced similar but much better than normal rooms. Not as nice as marriot though.I have heard the area North of Ayala Mall is good for longer term rentals, you should check it out, it means you need to walk area looking for signs in windows or rent a taxi and drive streets, you could ask taxi driver for ideas, but be careful where he takes you, only go to area you want to.
Good Luck,
Don
Thank you.
I am in my mid-30's. Quite frankly, there are not so many westerners in this place, a few of them in their 30's early 40's perhaps. Mostly locals and Koreans (the Koreans, both guys and gals, seem to tend to stay among themselves)...
Why are you asking ?
Oh, one other word of caution. I find that there can be quite a few bayot's/transvetites out here in Cebu, both a the PUMP but also at Sunflower and Ayala mall (a couple of them were making big time eye contact with me at ayala mall in the middle of the afternoon).
Well I am well knowledge with my many trips to Manila and Angeles. I am making my 2nd trip to Cebu. First trip and only trip to Cebu was with a girlfrind I had so didn't get to move around alot. But my eyes did notice a well noted place near Robinsons called Silver Dollar so I will venture there definately. I wanted to know is there any Massage Parlars like Don P. In Manila or Air Force 1? I am sure there are some and would like information on the whereabouts they are. Also Is Lone Star near the Silver Dollar. Never saw it with my wondering eyes when girlfriend was next to me.
i can recommend finland massage for happy happy ending.
taxis are required and afforable to move around Cebu. Lonestar is walkable from Blackhole strip of bars but a 15 min walk at least from lonestar.
Thanks Floyd for the advice.
Is Lone Star near the Silver Dollar. Never saw it with my wondering eyes when girlfriend was next to me.
This handy map shows you where Lone Star is in relation to the Mango Avenue girly bars.
To add to Scribe's post/map, it's an easy walk to all of the places. Nevertheless, the walk to Lone Star is rather dark and lonely.
This place seems to be highly recommended, but I don't remember it being anything special. Has anyone else been there? I like Lemon Grass at AYala mall.
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i don't know about short-term apartments but i will be out of the country for several months and may rent out my house. fully- (and nicely) furnished, excellent location, high-speed internet, but no pool. plenty of room for two couples. not sure what month you are looking for, but i will be leaving in feb or march.
i did a search and didn´t find anything, so if this information has been posted previously, please forgive me.
i am winding up a one week stay here in cebu, my first, at the tail end of a month´s visit to this part of the world and wish i had listened to all those who told me to forget about thailand and concentrate on the philippines. i met a nice guy here also staying at the marriott who feels the same way i do, and we want to come back in around 5 months or so and rent a nice apartment for a month.
should i just use google and see what i come up with or does someone have some suggestions. we want a nice place...maybe with pool in a good section of town. obviously with plenty of space for two guys...budget around $1,000 or maybe somewhat more. thanks for any information you might be able to give me.
Been to cebu and hope my little experience could be of help for first-timers here in the Philippines.
As for accommodation, try booking directly at the hotel web site. It is cheaper than having a so-called portal do it for you.
If you don't know any hotel in the area and are just searching through search engines, forums like this are helpful.
Some of the hotels I've been to are the following, differentiated by their attractions:
Budget Hotels near Cebu's red light district
Westpoint Inn http://www.westpointinn-cebu.com
Europa Mansionette Inn http://www.europamansionetteinn.com
Cebu Grand Hotel http://www.cebugrandhotel.com
If the beach is your thing, urban resorts like the following can be a very tidy location: Costabella Tropical http://www.costabellaresort-cebu.com
Casa del Mar Golf & Dive Hotel http://www.casadelmar-golfresort.com
As for sex, I have to suggest free lancers. They are quality fuck, rather than, say, regulars at a club. Try hanging out around fuente de osmena, where the bars are.
Hope it helps
Stay lucky you all!
Starchild2012
11-01-07, 00:25
I had to cut short of my trip in Cebu, due to work issues and had to come back to India to get things up again.
I left Cebu in late July, did not get a chance to write up my final words
My two month in Cebu were fantastic..
Though i had some issues at first, i adjusted to the needs of filipino women by being atmost clean and smelling good with good dress sense.
Folks, If you plan to work and fun in Cebu....it is impossible..thats the reason you will find most of the retired folks and korean businessmen for pleasure...
I had planned to work from Cebu as i work on the net..but it became IMPOSSIBLE to work combined with fun for me..my whole mind was in women and bars and my company fired me for not being upto the mark :)...
Due to not knowing how to go about things..i messed with lot of money renting a house..losing the deposit and losing lots of money thinking i will be staying in Cebu and buying things..which i could have used for mongering :(
DO NOT make a trip for a week...I repeat..DO not..or else you will go crying back home :)...its so much to explore in Cebu..everyday you will find new women to explore...
Lonestar, silverdollar, all mango avenue bars are great..BUT the real heaven of real model quality girls of philiphines are in Arena bar and jaguar bars..cos lots of korean and japanese businessman come there...
Lonestar, silverdollar and mango avenue bars are good if you LIVE in cebu...cos they would cost very less per day or weekend action...BUT if you are really a tourist and do not wish to LIVE in Cebu...you really really have to check....Arena, jaguar plus..paseo disco...
There are also lots of brothels in Cebu which my taxi driver took around night for 200 pesos...whole night.... all great women ...just wanted to check out all the places
Arena and jagaur bar have around 80+ hot girls.......they have live shows and Ktv lounge on top...
Ohh man what can i say..i fell in love with half of the women in these bars...the bar fine is 5000 pesos..but if u bargain and wait by 2.30 am the time bar closes they would reduce it to 3500 around and if you are a regular visitor and a high rollar..you can take the girl out for free as they know you will pay the girl..
Its all about vibe...
There is a different world in Cebu outside the english speaking domain..where the real hardcore girls go..cos there is more money to be made...
I have to say i messed up my trip for not gauging what pleasure it has to offer..with going with a frame of mind to WORK and Enjoy..which is imposiible in my opinion
Folks...don't use your mind in Cebu..its worthless...what is important is you have to be there with a physical body that breathes and the girls will stick out to you...
I had some difficulty at first for being an indian which reminds them of pinoy men and they think all Indians do this lending business .so image problem..but once i got to know inside out....its being a paradise..
I be there by new years..hope to die this time in paradise with LOVEEEEEE
Good Luck
Sorry for your bad luck, but glad you can laught at it now. I had a few writing and proofreading jobs I had to do while I was in the philippines, and I know what you mean. It's hard to concentrate.
As for "hardcore" girls, are you implying the Mango / Silver Dollar girls are less hard core than those at Jaguar? I'm not so sure about that.
Assuming you got a discount of 3500 to take out a Jaguar girl, how much did you tip her? I've never pulled a girl out of those high-end places so I don't know the system there.
X Man
There is a different world in Cebu outside the english speaking domain..where the real hardcore girls go..cos there is more money to be made...
Folks...don't use your mind in Cebu..its worthless...
Starchild2012
11-02-07, 01:58
Sorry for your bad luck, but glad you can laught at it now. I had a few writing and proofreading jobs I had to do while I was in the philippines, and I know what you mean. It's hard to concentrate.
As for "hardcore" girls, are you implying the Mango / Silver Dollar girls are less hard core than those at Jaguar? I'm not so sure about that.
Assuming you got a discount of 3500 to take out a Jaguar girl, how much did you tip her? I've never pulled a girl out of those high-end places so I don't know the system there.
X Man
Hi X Man...Glad to know you are still hanging around....Man you really have energy :)
The difference i felt in Jaguar was the live show they put on and the atmosphere feels like you are THE KING out there..cos the area is bigger..may be its just that i have not seen a bar as big as that back home..so more attracted to it....but if one has seen it all..then there is no difference anywhere in Cebu..when the girl catwalked they looked more hardcore to me :)
The first time i went, i got the girl for 5k..next time i took the same girl for 3500 and after few more trips i did not take any girl as i was too drunk..but after few weeks as i became regular bar fly and when the bar closed at 2.30..the girl who came earlier and her friend came with me with no bar fine and all were easy with that and they were saying in front of the staff ..that they are going with me...it was all ok..even though i wanted to get down on them i was too drunk so gave them taxi fare and on weekend met then at paseo...she is a short hair girl ..who also works sometimes at FatZoe's bar in paseo.....She is too unfuck**ingly unbelievengly good..she never ask for any money ever..no tricks..she is sick for love..well all girls in Cebu are..if you meet a girl second time ..you are her for ever...
What i found interesting..the girls when they are with you..will never ask for money or force you to buy anything..they are in their own world..mad for love i guess..its just the "MANAGEMENT" that makes and drips money out of us..but to be fair..they need it to run the show...
This place rocks and its soo calm....retires heaven for no reason now i know...
Those who are still reluctant..I was watching Discovery Channel last night about Zombies and it just clicked even if Zombies go to Cebu..they will pick up girls in dozen :D :D
Good Luck
I paid one and only one visit to Jaguar.
It was awash with smoke , you know what I mean , hardly see each other for the stuff.
Not my kind of environment.
Folks who do not like smoke will most probably do what I did , walk in and out within 3 mins , not even one drink.
Health comes first lol , or is it Sxxxx ?
Wander Luster
11-04-07, 17:47
I had to cut short of my trip in Cebu, due to work issues and had to come back to India to get things up again.
I left Cebu in late July, did not get a chance to write up my final words
My two month in Cebu were fantastic..
Though i had some issues at first, i adjusted to the needs of filipino women by being atmost clean and smelling good with good dress sense.
Folks, If you plan to work and fun in Cebu....it is impossible..thats the reason you will find most of the retired folks and korean businessmen for pleasure...
I had planned to work from Cebu as i work on the net..but it became IMPOSSIBLE to work combined with fun for me..my whole mind was in women and bars and my company fired me for not being upto the mark :)...
Due to not knowing how to go about things..i messed with lot of money renting a house..losing the deposit and losing lots of money thinking i will be staying in Cebu and buying things..which i could have used for mongering :(
DO NOT make a trip for a week...I repeat..DO not..or else you will go crying back home :)...its so much to explore in Cebu..everyday you will find new women to explore...
Lonestar, silverdollar, all mango avenue bars are great..BUT the real heaven of real model quality girls of philiphines are in Arena bar and jaguar bars..cos lots of korean and japanese businessman come there...
Lonestar, silverdollar and mango avenue bars are good if you LIVE in cebu...cos they would cost very less per day or weekend action...BUT if you are really a tourist and do not wish to LIVE in Cebu...you really really have to check....Arena, jaguar plus..paseo disco...
There are also lots of brothels in Cebu which my taxi driver took around night for 200 pesos...whole night.... all great women ...just wanted to check out all the places
Arena and jagaur bar have around 80+ hot girls.......they have live shows and Ktv lounge on top...
Ohh man what can i say..i fell in love with half of the women in these bars...the bar fine is 5000 pesos..but if u bargain and wait by 2.30 am the time bar closes they would reduce it to 3500 around and if you are a regular visitor and a high rollar..you can take the girl out for free as they know you will pay the girl..
Its all about vibe...
There is a different world in Cebu outside the english speaking domain..where the real hardcore girls go..cos there is more money to be made...
I have to say i messed up my trip for not gauging what pleasure it has to offer..with going with a frame of mind to WORK and Enjoy..which is imposiible in my opinion
Folks...don't use your mind in Cebu..its worthless...what is important is you have to be there with a physical body that breathes and the girls will stick out to you...
I had some difficulty at first for being an indian which reminds them of pinoy men and they think all Indians do this lending business .so image problem..but once i got to know inside out....its being a paradise..
I be there by new years..hope to die this time in paradise with LOVEEEEEE
Good Luck
Thanks for the contribution. I have to give the other side of the coin opionion on a couple things.
1. MANY people in well paying jobs from USA and elsewhere are working there. I'm amazed how many people thing those living are retired.
I WORKED THERE for 2.5 years and was working 80 hours a week. It is possible to focus on work. It just depends on the person. In the US I would use my very little free time do things like something cultural and then sex with a girlfriend.
In Cebu, most all free time was a quick 1 hour prowl of the mango bars and then take a girl back home and skrew as long as possilbe.
You can work, if you are able to "compartmentalize" or if you have a ton of your own money on the line.
Regarding the P5000 bars. You have to understand that these same girls work their and then quit because the competition for being barfines is too intense and they can't make enough. In many cases they go from their to the better mango ave bars (EG: not silver dollar) that are 1/2 the price for one of us horn dogs (or less). Plus you can talk to the girls on mango if you're smart without spending a ton on drinks. Find out who you like in terms of attitude and personality.
If you have the time, then all P4P may fall far short or meeting "real" girls.
Starchild2012
11-04-07, 18:29
Thanks for the contribution. I have to give the other side of the coin opionion on a couple things.
1. MANY people in well paying jobs from USA and elsewhere are working there. I'm amazed how many people thing those living are retired.
I WORKED THERE for 2.5 years and was working 80 hours a week. It is possible to focus on work. It just depends on the person. In the US I would use my very little free time do things like something cultural and then sex with a girlfriend.
In Cebu, most all free time was a quick 1 hour prowl of the mango bars and then take a girl back home and skrew as long as possilbe.
You can work, if you are able to "compartmentalize" or if you have a ton of your own money on the line.
Regarding the P5000 bars. You have to understand that these same girls work their and then quit because the competition for being barfines is too intense and they can't make enough. In many cases they go from their to the better mango ave bars (EG: not silver dollar) that are 1/2 the price for one of us horn dogs (or less). Plus you can talk to the girls on mango if you're smart without spending a ton on drinks. Find out who you like in terms of attitude and personality.
If you have the time, then all P4P may fall far short or meeting "real" girls.
Yeah...its person to person..i had to work in EST time..so had to wake up all night..it was harder to break up on time except on weekend....i had thought before coming that i would be able to manage it...but guess..the sheer freedom of doing things at any time...made me break the boundaries..
Well..this time..im coming with no baggage of work but just pure pleasure and saved enough to survive a tsunami :)
I have spread out my time and will be meeting more regular girls and would venture out to province..
Keep it updated on the trip..
Good Luck
Wander Luster
11-05-07, 02:26
Yeah...its person to person..i had to work in EST time..so had to wake up all night..it was harder to break up on time except on weekend....i had thought before coming that i would be able to manage it...but guess..the sheer freedom of doing things at any time...made me break the boundaries..
Well..this time..im coming with no baggage of work but just pure pleasure and saved enough to survive a tsunami :)
I have spread out my time and will be meeting more regular girls and would venture out to province..
Keep it updated on the trip..
Good Luck
If you were working on EST time that explains a lot. I too was on a schedule that usually kept me up to 3AM or 4. It is very hard to keep yourself disciplined and on a normal schedule when one works graveyard hours.
Desert Don
11-07-07, 01:50
what hotels have dependable high speed internet in cebu? what is situation if you are staying in cebu for awhile on this? would you rent an apartment and have system locally installed?
thanks,
don
Don Roberts
11-07-07, 06:57
I am in Cebu again, for a few months- I have been spending winters here for the last 5 or 6 years. I hope to visit a few of the neighboring islands, & make some out of country trips- Maybe Singapore, Bali, Angkor Wat- not sure where yet. I hope to get my boat in the water before the end of this month- I've had it 2 years & only been out 3 or 4 times- each time with breakdowns involving lot's of oily smoke & steam, so we put the boat up on blocks & are giving it an engine transplant & general overhaul. As they say, "A boat is a hole in the water that you throw money in...".
Reasonably sane ISG'ers welcome to PM me for possible get togethers- I am in my late 60's, unattractive, socially inept, missing teeth etc- your normal average Cebu-based expat- but I can still hobble out to have a good time occasionally, if I can sneak out from under the watchful gaze of my lovely filipina live-in- She says she loves me- I love her beautiful ass.
Regards,
Don
Hi all. I've been reading many many pages form this board and find it immensely helpful so thanks to all.
I'll be going to cebu from nov. 23rd to dec. 6th (only time I can get free from work).
Anyway I plan on posting a report on my full itinerary plan when I get here based on what I have read and know. Any advice from that will be helpful. I'll post it within the next week.
But one question I have straight off is ATM machines. I presume ATMs will be hit and miss. My understanding is there are Citibanks and HSBC terminals there.
The back of my ATM card has the symbols:
NYCE, THE EXCHANGE, (diamond figured) PLUS
Does anyone know if these are usable in any of these major banks in Cebu?
They work everywhere in the States, but hey, this is the other side of the world. I plan to bring a lot of cash but would like to know I can use the ATM. (I also understand will have to be careful at ATM terminals)
Thanks for feedback
Hi all. I've been reading many many pages form this board and find it immensely helpful so thanks to all.
I'll be going to cebu from nov. 23rd to dec. 6th (only time I can get free from work).
Anyway I plan on posting a report on my full itinerary plan when I get here based on what I have read and know. Any advice from that will be helpful. I'll post it within the next week.
But one question I have straight off is ATM machines. I presume ATMs will be hit and miss. My understanding is there are Citibanks and HSBC terminals there.
The back of my ATM card has the symbols:
NYCE, THE EXCHANGE, (diamond figured) PLUS
Does anyone know if these are usable in any of these major banks in Cebu?
They work everywhere in the States, but hey, this is the other side of the world. I plan to bring a lot of cash but would like to know I can use the ATM. (I also understand will have to be careful at ATM terminals)
Thanks for feedbackATM's everywhere. Dont know what your symbols mean as only visa, mastercard etc are internationaland you need one or the other.
HSBC (one main branch) is the best. Gives out up to 50,000 peso if your are a customer. All the others give out only about 5ooopeso in cebu. Best to bring cash if only a short stay imo as 5000 doesnt go far if you want a good time.
Starchild2012
11-11-07, 15:21
Hi all. I've been reading many many pages form this board and find it immensely helpful so thanks to all.
I'll be going to cebu from nov. 23rd to dec. 6th (only time I can get free from work).
Anyway I plan on posting a report on my full itinerary plan when I get here based on what I have read and know. Any advice from that will be helpful. I'll post it within the next week.
But one question I have straight off is ATM machines. I presume ATMs will be hit and miss. My understanding is there are Citibanks and HSBC terminals there.
The back of my ATM card has the symbols:
NYCE, THE EXCHANGE, (diamond figured) PLUS
Does anyone know if these are usable in any of these major banks in Cebu?
They work everywhere in the States, but hey, this is the other side of the world. I plan to bring a lot of cash but would like to know I can use the ATM. (I also understand will have to be careful at ATM terminals)
Thanks for feedback
Cebu has more ATM's in the city than public toilets :) ....i was also worried about ATMs in cebu..but its kinda business to open an ATM anywhere it seems...with a population of less than a million..i bet there are more ATM in cebu than a typical city in USA..
You will get the PLUS sign almost every ATM in Cebu..you don't have to search fro HSBC or Citi bank..almost all banks in Cebu has the PLUS sign and are interconnected...you will have absolutely no problem withdrawing money...i could guarantee that with my own personal experience...
Philippines is just like USA for the most part...the music, dress sense, food , pharmacy, malls,, you have everything in Cebu...PLUS some more fun to add with less money..:)
Just to be on the safer side..get couple of cards and divide your money equally...you may never know..when you are drunk..where you lost your card :)
Good Luck
Desert Don
11-11-07, 16:29
i will be going to cebu after first of the year for up to a year. can anyone give me an idea of area and cost of nice clean apt? can you get hi-speed internet?
thanks,
don
hi don,
typically a decent (not going so far as to say 'nice'), clean apartment in cebu city will run from p10, 000 and up depending on the location, age, security, view and whether it is furnished. (what i would call a 'nice' place, for example, a city lights condo in busay which is very well and fully furnished would rent for about p45, 000 with a mountain view--city view is a little higher.) most are unfurnished, which in the philippines means it has nothing. no airconditioning, no refridgerator, no hot water, nothing. if it has any of those things it will cost more. also, expect for most landlords to demand a one year minimum contract and probably at least 3 months deposit and 2 months advance rent. don't be shocked when they ask for 6 months or even a year in advance! the rental prices in cebu are skyrocketing due to koreans coming as students and renting everything in site while paying astronomical prices without negotiating and agreeing to pay many months in advance, etc. always plan to negotiate and if at all possible have a filipino (but not a scum-sucking real estate broker! ) negotiate for you. filipinos will always charge a higher price if they know a foreigner is involved. i highly suggest to avoid using a real estate broker. they are the least honorable lot i have met in cebu. a good taxi driver is your best bet. drive around the areas you are interested in and look for signs and ask the guards at the gates of compound for houses/apts for rent.
areas outside cebu city are substantially less expensive. areas such as consolacion, compostella, lilo-an, etc are much cheaper than in the city itself. however, with traffic it can be a painstaking hour or more to drive to the city from these locales. (painstaking not because these locations are far from the city, rather due to having to muddle through traffic and congestion.)
high-speed internet is avaiable in most areas of the city. however, you should check with your chosen provider before you sign as lease. they will likely need to survey the site and check the area (local boxes for dsl or line of site for wireless) before they can tell you whether service is truly available. due to my business i have dealt with all 3 major isps in cebu: globe dsl, pldt dsl and smart wi-fi. for the typical user who doesn't require alot of bandwidth, i would recommend smart wifi. it is installed quickly and only requires line-of-site to a smart cell tower and costs p999/mo. if you require a faster connection. well, globe and pldt both suck. but, pldt sucks less. i pay nearly p6, 000/mo for sdsl which is supposed to deliver 2. 2mbps download and upload. however, only 128kbps is guaranteed!
hope that helps!
i will be going to cebu after first of the year for up to a year. can anyone give me an idea of area and cost of nice clean apt? can you get hi-speed internet?
thanks,
don
Ok, so this will be my first trip to Cebu. I welcome any suggestions, additions, advice to my below "plans. " I have been to phillippines before but just in the company of relatives for the most part. Was only on my own in boracay and that isn't really an easy pickup spot although I did hook up there. People are right when they say byob.
I am Filipino but was born in the states. Both of my folks are Filipino , but I look mestiso. My great grandfather was spanish and they say I got his genes.
Anywhoo guess that means basically I don't look like a Filipino . I am 33 years old, pretty decent looking but I have a bit of a tummy that I can't really hide at this point. I still think I should do well on my own but I would welcome company too if anyone wants to meet up. Anywhoo my plan below.
I will be arriving on the 24th of November and stay till dec 7th. I plan to book 2 evening at Raja Hotel. Someone mentioned a place to get a cheap cell phone near this hotel as well. I'll try that place. I plan to try raja out and if I like it, I will book more. If I don't, I will stay somewhere else, maybe midtown or marriott. Expensive resort like shangri-la, I may stay on last 2 nights if I like how I budget myself.
I have budgeted about 2500 US dollars spending for my lewd exploits and food, after hotel and flight for the 14 days. I won't be barfining every night I hope. If I need more I'll visit the ATM but that's the budget guideline. Hope that's realistic (probably not: P).
I have communicated with some girls via filipina friendfinder and cebuanas websites and made plans to meet/text some of them when I arrive. One of the girls I've talked extensively too, is pretty damn hot and will bring her identical twin sister to meet me too (HELLO! ).
But I am well aware that this method can be a situation where one "can't put the ball in the basket" since they are probably "good girls. " I'd like to get a mix of good girls, even hanging out with their friends, and bad girls (just down and dirty sex). If I can get the down and dirty sex from just the good girls that'd be a major bonus but I'm realistic. In hanging out with the good girls, I feel like if I become friends with them they can introduce me to their friends and thus I can be exposed to many many chics. Sorta like what born loser did. Plus I know I can't have sex all the time, I'll get exhausted and drained. Who knows
Oh it's likely I'll visit again in April so any connections I make while I'm there shouldn't be outdated when I'm back.
Anywhoo I have also communicated with some girls from adult friend finder too, so they are there for me to text as well. These will be the bad girls of course.
I'm cautious of many of these because I haven't seen most of them via cam yet. I guess I'll do a quick meet for coffee and make the excuse I have to meet someone if necessary.
For evening fun I plan to try to visit silver dollar, lone star, black hole, dimples, papillon, viking, eric the red, liza's (sounds great definately stop by even if it seems more out of the way).
I also plan to visit arena and jaguar (any other expensive but superhot model places to try out? ). I simply can't help but indulge in superhot chics. Cheaper than they would be in the States, that's for sure! Like the idea of bringing cards and slipping them my card. Think I'll just bring my work business cards (have tons of those) and write my cell number on them. Also like the idea of giving gifts like chocolates or hand lotion so I'll stock up and bring those. If I have to barfine I may only do this once or twice as it's pricey.
For night places to either meet non-working chics or bring chics with me I'll try pump (on Wednesday and Thursday evenings), cadillac cafe (seems interesting), sunflower, crossroads complex, hmmm gotta read this thread to see where else would be a good idea? Remember someone mentioned a restaurant on top of hotel with a good view. (will search 4 it)
For the day it appears there are numerous places one can try to meet girls. I definately like the idea of chatting it up with sales clerk types. I've noted a lot of suggestions from this thread and won't' list that all here.
Now questions:
If I barfine a girl, should I take her to a short term instead of my place? Seems smart but others don't appear to do that that I have read here. I don't want a girl robbing me or trying to pull something.
Sorry I've read dozens of pages here but I haven't seen anything on where internet cafes are with a cam. I can confirm meetings with my internet girls here, and see them on cam first to screen them. So can someone suggest internet cafe near raja? A couple of suggestions would be helpful.
Any suggestions (no insults or harshness cuz I'm newbie or something please) and advice welcome. And again, anyone interested in meeting up, let me know as well.
I will most assuredly post a journal of my explots while there. Wish me luck gentlemen, and thank you for all your info and feedback.
Cheers,
Bruce
Web Connect
11-12-07, 13:13
Now questions:
If I barfine a girl, should I take her to a short term instead of my place? Seems smart but others don't appear to do that that I have read here. I don't want a girl robbing me or trying to pull something.
So can someone suggest internet cafe near raja? A couple of suggestions would be helpful.
Any suggestions (no insults or harshness cuz I'm newbie or something please) and advice welcome.
Cheers,
BruceDon't worry about bringing a girl to your place. The girls are pretty honest. But of course don't leave your money and valuables all over the place. Put them in the hotel room safe. Take the "non bar girls" to Queensland. They will be very impressed.
On the ground level floor of Robinson mall (across from the raja hotel) there is a an Internet cafe called Cafe France with computers (some may have cameras)
Don't go around saying. ANYWHOO. That is fu*king gaaheey!
Get in touch with your Filp roots and take some Tagalog/Cebuano lessons so people will treat you like a Flip (I can use that word since I am a Flip). What ever you do DO NOT tell your families relatives you are in Flipland. Or they will ask for money more than any other person you will meet. If you don't give them any enough (and what ever it is. It will NEVER be enough) money. They will guilt you to death for the rest of your life!
The word mestizo is old school. The new word to use is Tisoy! So you will be more welcomed if you say you are Tisoy rather than mestizo. As in "Tisoy Ako".
Desert Don
11-12-07, 16:07
hi don,
typically a decent (not going so far as to say 'nice'), clean apartment in cebu city will run from p10, 000 and up depending on the location, age, security, view and whether it is furnished. (what i would call a 'nice' place, for example, a city lights condo in busay which is very well and fully furnished would rent for about p45, 000 with a mountain view--city view is a little higher.) most are unfurnished, which in the philippines means it has nothing. no airconditioning, no refridgerator, no hot water, nothing. if it has any of those things it will cost more. also, expect for most landlords to demand a one year minimum contract and probably at least 3 months deposit and 2 months advance rent. don't be shocked when they ask for 6 months or even a year in advance! the rental prices in cebu are skyrocketing due to koreans coming as students and renting everything in site while paying astronomical prices without negotiating and agreeing to pay many months in advance, etc. always plan to negotiate and if at all possible have a filipino (but not a scum-sucking real estate broker! ) negotiate for you. filipinos will always charge a higher price if they know a foreigner is involved. i highly suggest to avoid using a real estate broker. they are the least honorable lot i have met in cebu. a good taxi driver is your best bet. drive around the areas you are interested in and look for signs and ask the guards at the gates of compound for houses/apts for rent.
areas outside cebu city are substantially less expensive. areas such as consolacion, compostella, lilo-an, etc are much cheaper than in the city itself. however, with traffic it can be a painstaking hour or more to drive to the city from these locales. (painstaking not because these locations are far from the city, rather due to having to muddle through traffic and congestion.)
high-speed internet is avaiable in most areas of the city. however, you should check with your chosen provider before you sign as lease. they will likely need to survey the site and check the area (local boxes for dsl or line of site for wireless) before they can tell you whether service is truly available. due to my business i have dealt with all 3 major isps in cebu: globe dsl, pldt dsl and smart wi-fi. for the typical user who doesn't require alot of bandwidth, i would recommend smart wifi. it is installed quickly and only requires line-of-site to a smart cell tower and costs p999/mo. if you require a faster connection. well, globe and pldt both suck. but, pldt sucks less. i pay nearly p6, 000/mo for sdsl which is supposed to deliver 2. 2mbps download and upload. however, only 128kbps is guaranteed!
hope that helps!thanks! do the areas outside of city get hi-speed internet also? is mactan an option? i saw an ad in cebu classified for compond studio $100.00 a month? i do not have to be in town around bars etc all the time. don
Don't worry about bringing a girl to your place. The girls are pretty honest. But of course don't leave your money and valuables all over the place. Put them in the hotel room safe. Take the "non bar girls" to Queensland. They will be very impressed.
On the ground level floor of Robinson mall (across from the raja hotel) there is a an Internet cafe called Cafe France with computers (some may have cameras)
Don't go around saying. ANYWHOO. That is fu*king gaaheey!
Get in touch with your Filp roots and take some Tagalog/Cebuano lessons so people will treat you like a Flip (I can use that word since I am a Flip). What ever you do DO NOT tell your families relatives you are in Flipland. Or they will ask for money more than any other person you will meet. If you don't give them any enough (and what ever it is. It will NEVER be enough) money. They will guilt you to death for the rest of your life!
The word mestizo is old school. The new word to use is Tisoy! So you will be more welcomed if you say you are Tisoy rather than mestizo. As in "Tisoy Ako".Cheers for all the advice (sans the gay insinuation). Don't' think I need help in talking to women or saying the wrong thing, just logistical stuff and where to find them (seems like everywhere). Re: relatives I know what ya mean. Most are either too far away to do anything about it, or well off themselves so no biggie (none are in cebu). I'd be more worried about them wanting to just take up my time taking me to boring tourist/historic sites when all I want is to hunt for babes. Relatives actually know I'm there but they are mostly in manila so there ya have it.
Other advice taken and appreciated tho. Tisoy. Cool. Not really much time to learn too much tagalog lingo (or am I lazy? ) but I'm happy to learn a couple phrases I may not know. I'll just charm the felines shirts off with my manly american accent, then throw in tagalog words intermittantly. Or just frggin' smile at them. I'm obviously american so will they really judge me and not wanna let me bang them if I don't' know all the slang? Doubt it. I don't look Filipino so they'll be surprised. That's what I do on the cruise ships (plenty of filipinas work on those) here in US tho it's not easy on cruiseliners cuz they aren't allowed to fraternized and watched like hawks via camera (if you have a hot chambermaid tho, that's if GOLD cuz they are already there. I had one on a P&O cruiselineer once, The Adonia. NCL cruise ships seem much more strict tho).
Identical twin girl just emailed me again. Think I got a stage 5 clinger and we haven't' even met yet.
Been to cebu and hope my little experience could be of help for first-timers here in the Philippines.
As for accommodation, try booking directly at the hotel web site. It is cheaper than having a so-called portal do it for you.
If you don't know any hotel in the area and are just searching through search engines, forums like this are helpful.
Some of the hotels I've been to are the following, differentiated by their attractions:
Budget Hotels near Cebu's red light district
Westpoint Inn http://www.westpointinn-cebu.com
Europa Mansionette Inn http://www.europamansionetteinn.com
Cebu Grand Hotel http://www.cebugrandhotel.com
If the beach is your thing, urban resorts like the following can be a very tidy location: Costabella Tropical http://www.costabellaresort-cebu.com
Casa del Mar Golf & Dive Hotel http://www.casadelmar-golfresort.com
As for sex, I have to suggest free lancers. They are quality fuck, rather than, say, regulars at a club. Try hanging out around fuente de osmena, where the bars are.
Hope it helps
Stay lucky you all!I looked at the website and accommodations look good. Is it an illusion? Can anyone tell me why accomms are so cheap relative to other hotels? Is it a bad part of town? Not good running water? Far away?
Thanks
Europa Mansionette Inn http://www.europamansionetteinn.com
Key Master
11-13-07, 07:58
Just some quick notes. As mentioned I wouldn't really worry about a bar fine stealing from you. Don't leave stuff out that is real valuable and easy to snag out, but that goes without saying at all times. I went to Cadillac Cafe on a weeknight and it was dead. If you are going to make the long drive out there you probably have to go on a weekend when supposedly people go there. I had a hell of a time getting a taxi out of there.
Also, in regards to being Philipino. I am not but look it. It works for me and against me. I don't recommend when you are in the P4P scene that you even say anything to the sort that you are as it seems to be a buzz kill for them at times. Sometimes women won't talk to me in the P4P scene because they assume I am Philipino and it's over. Try not speaking Tagalog in that scene also might behoove you because they might not get suspicious. I try and joke around and use words in Tagalog and it can bite you in the butt sometimes if they suspect you are Philipino in the bar fine or freelancer scene. Just my experience.
Web Connect
11-13-07, 14:54
Cheers for all the advice (sans the gay insinuation).
Other advice taken and appreciated tho. Tisoy. Cool. Not really much time to learn too much tagalog lingo (or am I lazy? ) but I'm happy to learn a couple phrases I may not know. I'll just charm the felines shirts off with my manly american accent, then throw in tagalog words intermittantly. Or just frggin' smile at them. I'm obviously american so will they really judge me and not wanna let me bang them if I don't' know all the slang? Doubt it. I don't look Filipino so they'll be surprised.I just don't want to be to Cebu someday and everyone is saying... "Any Whoo". I am sure a lot of people will agree that every time I hear that I just want to strangle the person.
Tisoy is just slang of mizTESO+y (try to ask someone when you are there why they add a Y at the end)
Yeah forget speaking Tagalog but being an ABF, you will find your experience over all will be so much more if you can understand and speak a bit of Bisayan. There are so many foreigners living in The Phils who think they are experts... but never take the time to learn the local dialects. Language is the basis of most cultures. If you show you want to learn. They people will open up so much more. More than you could ever believe is possible.
Mandaue is kind of out of the way which is probably the reason for the good prices. I suspect the room photographs were takend when the place first opened -- they might not look that good today. Why don't you email them and ask how long they have been in business? Also ask them how far it is to SM Mandaue. It's a small place, and they don't get many foreigners in there. It might be a good place to meet some regular girls.
If it's your first time to Cebu I recommend you try for one of the hotels between Fuente Osmena Circle and Ayala mall. There are many to pick from.
X Man
I looked at the website and accommodations look good. Is it an illusion? Can anyone tell me why accomms are so cheap relative to other hotels? Is it a bad part of town? Not good running water? Far away?
Thanks
Europa Mansionette Inn http://www.europamansionetteinn.com
Web Connect
11-13-07, 15:05
Also, in regards to being Philipino. I am not but look it. It works for me and against me. I don't recommend when you are in the P4P scene that you even say anything to the sort that you are as it seems to be a buzz kill for them at times. Sometimes women won't talk to me in the P4P scene because they assume I am Philipino and it's over. Try not speaking Tagalog in that scene also might behoove you because they might not get suspicious. I try and joke around and use words in Tagalog and it can bite you in the butt sometimes if they suspect you are Philipino in the bar fine or freelancer scene. Just my experience.I agree being a Filipino or even looking like one doesnt go over well in the P4P scene. Right away they think you are NBI. They also don't want some Filipina wife getting mad at them if they find out they are messing around with their husband.
No one in Cebu using Tagalog unless they are speaking to someone from the NCR or a person of authority. But Girls cream when they hear a forginer speaking Bisayan. Maybe cause it is so rare.
There is a restaurant on the top of Holiday Plaza, which is on Ramos Ave and just a short walk from Robinsons / Cebu Midtown Hotel. Great view, but the food and service are only passable.
As someone mentioned, there is a net cafe inside Robinsons. I preferred the place which is down the street from the National bookstore (across the street from the Mango Ave Jollibee). You have little cubicles with some amount of privacy. The only problem is that the gamers can be annoying.
X Man
Remember someone mentioned a restaurant on top of hotel with a good view. (will search 4 it)
Sorry I've read dozens of pages here but I haven't seen anything on where internet cafes are with a cam. I can confirm meetings with my internet girls here, and see them on cam first to screen them. So can someone suggest internet cafe near raja? A couple of suggestions would be helpful.
Web Connect
11-13-07, 15:23
I looked at the website and accommodations look good. Is it an illusion? Can anyone tell me why accomms are so cheap relative to other hotels? Is it a bad part of town? Not good running water? Far away?
Thanks
Europa Mansionette Inn http://www.europamansionetteinn.comIt is kind of far away if you don't have a car. You will have to walk up to A.S Fortuna near Kaona Grill to get a taxi. That also goes for the girls when they leave.... so that means if you bar fine a girl in one bar... she will tell all the other girls in that bar where you are staying. Bar girls don't like to walk. Of course she can text her Habal-Habal driving boyfriend to come pick her up.
It won't take that long to get to the Mango bars at night from there... but during the day there could be a lot of traffic. Forget about it during rush hour.
SM from there during the day no traffic = 20 mins
SM from there during the day with traffic = 60 mins
If you are really looking to save money ... just stay at the Jade Court that is near by. Don't mind the roaches it is part of the Phil experience.
There are also a ton of Jap/Krong-Krong KTV's along AS Fortuna that NEVER get any reviews here because most guys here don't like that style of mongering. But some of the most beautiful girls are there.
Well WC, you seem like just the man to do the review!!!
What are the procedures and payments? Last time in Cebu I met a couple stunners in Lone Star who had worked at King Kong KTV in Lapu Lapu. So, I'm interested in trying these places out.
X
There are also a ton of Jap/Krong-Krong KTV's along AS Fortuna that NEVER get any reviews here because most guys here don't like that style of mongering. But some of the most beautiful girls are there.
Don't worry about bringing a girl to your place. The girls are pretty honest. But of course don't leave your money and valuables all over the place. Put them in the hotel room safe. Take the "non bar girls" to Queensland. They will be very impressed.Impressed? Isn't' Queensland just a short term hotel? Or is there another that I'm not aware? Thanks all for the pointers. Will assuredly share. I've been sending loads of emails of FFF and cebuanas lately. Either mega hot girls, very young pretty girls (just pretty not good enough unless they are young, yeah I'm a pig), or girls that seem slutty are Bruce's golden criteria
Cheers
Web Connect
11-15-07, 06:04
Well WC, you seem like just the man to do the review!!!
What are the procedures and payments? Last time in Cebu I met a couple stunners in Lone Star who had worked at King Kong KTV in Lapu Lapu. So, I'm interested in trying these places out.
XSame as Jag or Arena.
Go in, Sit down, The mommy brings every girl out to stand in front of you. You have to pick a girl to sit and drink with you the entire time she sits with you. Or you can go back into a VIP room for a set price where your "consumables" are included for a set time. You still pay for her drinks. Then you can negotiate with the girl. HJ, BJ .... maybe FS. I forget the prices .. I never remember or look at prices . But it is not cheap. (hence the reason no one here goes there) Or you can bar fine the girl and of course tip the girl the next day.
But these places are mostly frequented by older Filipinos (with money), Japs or Koreans.. but not so much by the younger Koreans (English students).
The younger Koreans are now all at the Mango bars. They come for a few months, get the girls preggo and then tell the girl he has to go back to Korea but can't tell his family about the baby. He doesnt want to shame his family. So the girls are left to raise and support the child on her own. Not saying it is only young Koreans doing that... but seems to be common these days with the amount of them in Cebu. I guess the good thing is in 18 years there should be some cute half Koreans working in the bar!
Web Connect
11-15-07, 06:09
Impressed? Isn't' Queensland just a short term hotel? Or is there another that I'm not aware? Thanks all for the pointers. Will assuredly share. I've been sending loads of emails of FFF and cebuanas lately. Either mega hot girls, very young pretty girls (just pretty not good enough unless they are young, yeah I'm a pig), or girls that seem slutty are Bruce's golden criteria
CheersYeah .. there is a new QL right in back of Jade court. It says on the sign 5 (*****) accomodations. And if they say it on the sign, it must be true. It used to have a kick ass health center inside. But it got busted. It had the hottest girls cause they ran an ad in the Sunstar saying they where paying a crazy amount of money. For a few months it was the place to be. They even had an early bird special and introductory membership rate. The health club is now for rent if you know someone who knows someone to make it work.
But the rooms are clean and a lot newer than the White Gold location.
Thanks WC, I'll have to give it a look next time. I always assumed KTV was for karaoke TV and I'm a terrible singer. If no one is going to pressure me to sing a song, I'll be happy.
When I was 19 I was seduced by an older Korean barmaid in downtown San Diego. I wonder if I can return the favor by hitting on one of the Korean female students. The K guys seem to ignore them, and some of them are seriously hot looking. I know Koreans tend to be insular, but who knows when they are away for K-land!
X
Same as Jag or Arena.
Go in, Sit down, The mommy brings every girl out to stand in front of you. You have to pick a girl to sit and drink with you the entire time she sits with you. Or you can go back into a VIP room for a set price where your "consumables" are included for a set time. You still pay for her drinks. Then you can negotiate with the girl. HJ, BJ .... maybe FS. I forget the prices .. I never remember or look at prices . But it is not cheap. (hence the reason no one here goes there) Or you can bar fine the girl and of course tip the girl the next day.
But these places are mostly frequented by older Filipinos (with money), Japs or Koreans.. but not so much by the younger Koreans (English students).
The younger Koreans are now all at the Mango bars. They come for a few months, get the girls preggo and then tell the girl he has to go back to Korea but can't tell his family about the baby. He doesnt want to shame his family. So the girls are left to raise and support the child on her own. Not saying it is only young Koreans doing that... but seems to be common these days with the amount of them in Cebu. I guess the good thing is in 18 years there should be some cute half Koreans working in the bar!
GermanBoy 2
11-17-07, 06:10
Arrived in cebu yesterday in the afternoon after a few days in bohol, where I did not found something to do in the evening, but where its possible to enjoy a great landscape. In cebu I knew a girl whom I met at a free datinggsite, and then we have had some yahoo chats when I was at home. So I know half of her family cause everybody was wavng in the cam. Never had a talk about sexual things before, only normal conversation. In here I wrote her a sms and asked if she wants to meet. She agreed, and we choose a mall for first meeting. She asks if it is possible to bring her cousin, sure I said.
Well, there have been two cousins and we went for a little mall. Dinner and talk. Cousins said that they have to go for work, and we can meet later in disco. So I have been alone with my lady and askd what she wants to do. She said maybe a little rest in hotel before going. Sure I agreed.
Wow. It was really a great rest. In the taxi she started touching, and in the hotel she has been really cute too. Lot of hugging and kissing. As I like it. Only problem: she was a great sms girl, and did a lot of messages. With so called cousins. About her: she said weeks ago in the chat and in the mall too that she is 20, but when I asked her to see her funny picture in the id, I concidered that she was 18. Okay, why not.
After a few really relaxing hours in the hotel she said that she has to go home for a few minutes to talk with her mum, but she will be there 2 hours later or so. Hahaha. She changed her dress, and her mum must be a real seximaniac if she I wearing this for her. She called a "friend" to bring her home. I have seen his car. Business must runing really good. Was the same friend she was texted before. She allowed to look at sms cause it is visayan language. I do not speak this at all, only some words. But as far as I understood she was going to a place called jaguar. Okay, she promised to be back soon, I promised to wait for her. And she went. Money was never a theme, only the 400 pesos for the meeting with cousins.
Needless to say: she did not came back this night. I went out to a few clubs and have had fun. This morning there was a message from her, that her mum has fever and she does not know when she can come. Lets see what happens.
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Well. Casa are not easy to find in Philippines for they do not exactly have a sign saying "hey I am here". I do was to go to the bars here but quickly found out that I can not do to the peaple I know here that have are well known in the business comunity and entertainment (music) industry and I just would ruin those ties if I got wrong reputation on that and I need them regarding my own business. Anyway. I asked my driver about Casa in Cebu. He said yes he know of a good one. I said Ok let see. On our way he told me it is a not well known but to taxi and established business men. So if you want to experience just tell taxi the place. Anyway. The place is called Hanavalley Gate 3. So we are on our way and we pull up to a gate and we pull in and I am like sh#t this is not good as gate shut behind me. You get a very uneasy feeling at first but I was quickly compose myself and got out of car where driver introduce me to "the manager". We walked into a room about the size of half a basketball court and all 4 walls had ladies sitting on benches doing nothing but giggling and looking at me. Felt awkward for fishbowl with one way mirror is alot easier that beeing a looked at by all eyes. I was simply amazed! There were atleast 50 girls ages 18 to 25 and I suspect maybe some were not 18 but no way of knowing. Anyway manager sat down on bench with me where there was space and said well? I was aww strck and just said 2nd girl from door. Cost me P3500 but she came back to my hotel Parklane Hotel and stayed the night and I had no complaints. Here name was Debbie and she said she was 21 I will have pics later. She stayed with me next morning as well. She left at 10am and did not take tip for she said she can not per her manager says. I found a little about the place for she told me that the police and government know about it and they service them for free. She says she gets P1500 per customer and free room and food and goes home 5 days every month, (menstration) I am sure. But they work 7 days a week at 12 hour shifts and there are 140 girls who work. Agin if you try tell taxi you want to go to Hanavalley Gate 3. Anyone else been here?
casa are not easy to find in philippines for they do not exactly have a sign saying "hey i am here". i asked my driver about casa in cebu. he said yes he know of a good one. i said ok let see. on our way he told me it is a not well known but to taxi and established business men. so if you want to experience just tell taxi the place. i was simply amazed! there were atleast 50 girls ages 18 to 25 and i suspect maybe some were not 18 but no way of knowing. cost me p3500 but she came back to my hotel parklane hotel and stayed the night and i had no complaints. here name was debbie and she said she was 21 i will have pics later. she stayed with me next morning as well. she left at 10am and did not take tip for she said she can not per her manager says. i found a little about the place for she told me that the police and government know about it and they service them for free. she says she gets p1500 per customer and free room and food and goes home 5 days every month, (menstration) i am sure. but they work 7 days a week at 12 hour shifts and there are 140 girls who work. agin if you try tell taxi you want to go to hanavalley gate 3. anyone else been here?
great report dcand4!
recently, i too was interested in visiting a casa because it is the traditional way filipinos get their rocks off. my friends say there are hundreds of these places in the area, some of which are not a pretty sight. it has been documented that some of these casas keep women against their will. anyway, i was curious to try one out but bailed because i did not trust the cabbie. he quoted me p2500 which probably included a handsome kickback for himself. i would think that locals and good customers pay something like p1000.
it was also brought to my attention that you can get ****d girls at these types of establishments. they are ammune to discovery since officials and le are protecting them, as dcand4 points out. it would be interesting to find out if these casas have any quality control as in doctors check-ups for the girls. those prices you quoted seem a little high but you got take-out and the place sounds like it's top notch. looking forward to the photos!
Desert Don
11-29-07, 20:38
great report dcand4!
recently, i too was interested in visiting a casa because it is the traditional way filipinos get their rocks off. my friends say there are hundreds of these places in the area, some of which are not a pretty sight. it has been documented that some of these casas keep women against their will. anyway, i was curious to try one out but bailed because i did not trust the cabbie. he quoted me p2500 which probably included a handsome kickback for himself. i would think that locals and good customers pay something like p1000.
it was also brought to my attention that you can get ****d girls at these types of establishments. they are ammune to discovery since officials and le are protecting them, as dcand4 points out. it would be interesting to find out if these casas have any quality control as in doctors check-ups for the girls. those prices you quoted seem a little high but you got take-out and the place sounds like it's top notch. looking forward to the photos!"some of which are not a pretty sight". i think you are kidding yourself if you think doctors are checking up on the girls!!! anbywhere in the world, the possiblity exists that a girl has something and you had better use protection period!
don,
you have to realize anywhere you go in the world that.
"some of which are not a pretty sight". I think you are kidding yourself if you think doctors are checking up on the girls!!! Anbywhere in the world, the possiblity exists that a girl has something and you had better use protection period!
Hello DD,
Thanks for the friendly advise! I for one am a staunch user of condoms which have saved me from any STD's so far although I did contract mono a few years ago from a CB girl who lives in Mandaue.:( All I was wondering is since this casa sounds upscale, do they look out for their people? On a side note, a bar owner told me that HIV is on the rise in Cebu with women 21 and under.
Have a good one!
well it is one of the higher end casa that i did go too and the girls there did have id showing health reports. but as we all know that this is not always accurate. this was the first casa i ever visited. i have heard that there are some pretty bad ones with girls being held against there will and ****d. i just think at some level we have to have some moral issue here and draw the line. but i will tell you the casa girl that came with me was more than entertaining and took well care of me. i be back in states on monday and will post my pics.
I'm looking for a reliable supplier of Viagra in Cebu.
Anybody know of one?
(not fake stuff, from street vendors - the real thing, or a generic)
I've searched the Cebu forum for all of 2007 and can't find anything.
I'm really too old for this game, but with a little help, great things can be accomplished.
So many lovely young women - So little time!
Gentlemen
I am currently in Cebu, this is my first time here and I wanted to share my experience with you all, it will save you huge amounts of money.
I arrived here several days ago and started to explore the availability of women. I had in fact met a woman from the internet who arranged to stay with me at the hotel but that lasted a couple of days before I got bored and sent her on her way.
Anyway I was sat having a coffee near Mango Square one evening when I had the good fortune to bump into an American guy who has lived here for several years and what I learned from him proved to be more valuable than anything I have learnt before.
Firstly if you go to any of the numerous go go bars, expect to pay around 4000 pesos to take the girl back to your hotel. You will find nearly every taxi driver, security guard (they are everywhere) and street vagrant will be able to locate and bring young girls to you, anything from 18 to 25 years old. They normally ask between 1500 and 2000 pesos for the priviledge of
doing so and on the face of it this may seem like reasonable value. However all these people source their girls from mainly one location, it is called Honkera though I am not sure if this is the correct spelling.
Honkera is a down town area of cebu concentrated in one or two small thoroughfares. It is the epi centre of cheap girls in Cebu and they all cost 500 pesos for short time, this meaning about three hours.
The area is tightly controlled by the local Mafia, but I have never ever felt safer anywhere more than I did here. My friend told me it was very rare to get Westerners down in this area at night because frankly it looked very intimidating. I certainly would not have ventured there had it not be for my buddy.
The girls are controlled by three to four families and this is their first destination from places like Bohol, Mindaneau and the other islands before going on to Manila and other places. Most of the girls are fresh and spend their time here learning the trade.
My friend took me down there at about 2 am and it was abosolutley bustling with activity. It was hilarious watching taxi after taxi turn up and drivers getting the girls to parade so he could pick one up and charge some unsuspecting guy several thousand pesos for a minimal outlay. They pulled up and would collect two or three girls to take to customers so they can choose one from the taxi driver.
I picked an absolutely gorgeous young girl from Bohol, it was her first day there, she had arrived on the ferry that afternoon. I have to say that it was one of the most gf friendly experiences I have ever had in my life, with several sessions throughout the night and the morning. We spent all night cuddling and I kept her till lunch time, the total cost being 1000 pesos. This included everything, oral without, deep french kissing, DATY and anything else I wanted. It may have helped that the Papasan told her to make sure she gave a good service, but she was a happy, cheerful girl with a great attitude and I think the good service was always a certainty with her. She had the most captivating smile, I just melted when I first saw her.
Many taxi drivers will not be happy if you ask them to take you to Honkera, because it is costing them money, however insist that they take you and ignore their warnings about it being unsafe, they are just protecting their livelihoods, or rather their huge markups.
I just want to dedicate this report to my American friend, I only wish I had met him when I first arrived and if you happen by chance to read this, many many thanks!
Nice post and nice adventure. I hope you can tell us more about your Internet friend in the CHAT section.
I've helped out with the name above, but there are some other points I should clarify.
1) Go go places can be much cheaper than Mort suggests.
2) All the bar girls/street girls will tell you they are new on the job. Come back in six months and you'll get to meet them again.
3) Street pimps may ask for 1500 if you look like a newbie, but it's more like 500 or less. Maybe 1500 was the total price -- lady + tip.
4) Hilarious??? Different strokes for different folks, but I thought it was horrific to see a bunch of girls paraded in front of taxi headlights on a public street. That may be the reason for the taxi driver's reluctance. You never explained why a taxi driver was losing money on this deal...
Gentlemen
I am currently in Cebu, this is my first time here and I wanted to share my experience with you all, it will save you huge amounts of money.
I arrived here several days ago and started to explore the availability of women. I had in fact met a woman from the internet who arranged to stay with me at the hotel but that lasted a couple of days before I got bored and sent her on her way.
Anyway I was sat having a coffee near Mango Square one evening when I had the good fortune to bump into an American guy who has lived here for several years and what I learned from him proved to be more valuable than anything I have learnt before.
Firstly if you go to any of the numerous go go bars, expect to pay around 4000 pesos to take the girl back to your hotel. You will find nearly every taxi driver, security guard (they are everywhere) and street vagrant will be able to locate and bring young girls to you, anything from 18 to 25 years old. They normally ask between 1500 and 2000 pesos for the priviledge of
doing so and on the face of it this may seem like reasonable value. However all these people source their girls from mainly one location, it is called Honkera though I am not sure if this is the correct spelling.
Honkera is a down town area of cebu concentrated in one or two small thoroughfares. It is the epi centre of cheap girls in Cebu and they all cost 500 pesos for short time, this meaning about three hours.
The area is tightly controlled by the local Mafia, but I have never ever felt safer anywhere more than I did here. My friend told me it was very rare to get Westerners down in this area at night because frankly it looked very intimidating. I certainly would not have ventured there had it not be for my buddy.
The girls are controlled by three to four families and this is their first destination from places like Bohol, Mindaneau and the other islands before going on to Manila and other places. Most of the girls are fresh and spend their time here learning the trade.
My friend took me down there at about 2 am and it was abosolutley bustling with activity. It was hilarious watching taxi after taxi turn up and drivers getting the girls to parade so he could pick one up and charge some unsuspecting guy several thousand pesos for a minimal outlay. They pulled up and would collect two or three girls to take to customers so they can choose one from the taxi driver.
I picked an absolutely gorgeous young girl from Bohol, it was her first day there, she had arrived on the ferry that afternoon. I have to say that it was one of the most gf friendly experiences I have ever had in my life, with several sessions throughout the night and the morning. We spent all night cuddling and I kept her till lunch time, the total cost being 1000 pesos. This included everything, oral without, deep french kissing, DATY and anything else I wanted. It may have helped that the Papasan told her to make sure she gave a good service, but she was a happy, cheerful girl with a great attitude and I think the good service was always a certainty with her. She had the most captivating smile, I just melted when I first saw her.
Many taxi drivers will not be happy if you ask them to take you to Honkera, because it is costing them money, however insist that they take you and ignore their warnings about it being unsafe, they are just protecting their livelihoods, or rather their huge markups.
I just want to dedicate this report to my American friend, I only wish I had met him when I first arrived and if you happen by chance to read this, many many thanks!
Originally Posted by Mortman:
"Honkera is a down town area of cebu concentrated in one or two small thoroughfares. It is the epi centre of cheap girls in Cebu and they all cost 500 pesos for short time, this meaning about three hours."
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The area is in the block on the opposite side of Jonquera from the University of San Carlo. Bounded on the north side by Del Rosario and bounded to the south by the Wet Market.
If you plan to do-it-yourself, tell the taxi to take you to San Carlo Uni, then get out (avoiding pimps and hustlers) and walk east along Del Rosario until you come to a narrow street on your right off Del Rosario (opposite P Cui). There is a basketball court about 100m down that street - plenty of talent there.
The going rate is 500P short time and 1000P long time. If you get pimps,etc involved they will want a tip too.
I've only been there in daylight. Don't think I'd like to go there at night without a buddy or two.
What about the girls in Jonquera? Are they in shape? Can you find some older ones there? (MILFs ;))
What about the girls in Jonquera? Are they in shape? Can you find some older ones there? (MILFs ;))All sorts of sizes and shapes available at some time or another. Just a matter of what's on offer at the time you go there.
Mostly just average looks, but occasionally - a stunner.
I'm sure that if you tell one of the pimps/hustlers what you are looking for, they will find it for you for a modest fee.
Are there hotels (you could recommend) in the downtown area near Jonquera for westerners to stay or would you suggest getting a hotel in the tourist district.
I know in Phnom Penh there was a similar scene around a park where street girls were being pimped to customers for a cheap price. But there was always the chance the pimp and the girl would run off in the park after the money was handed over to the pimp.
TC.
Desert Don
12-03-07, 04:51
Are there hotels (you could recommend) in the downtown area near Jonquera for westerners to stay or would you suggest getting a hotel in the tourist district.
I know in Phnom Penh there was a similar scene around a park where street girls were being pimped to customers for a cheap price. But there was always the chance the pimp and the girl would run off in the park after the money was handed over to the pimp.
TC.I assume you also want to know where a cheap hospital is to take care of any dieses you pick up also!
I just went into a pharmacy and asked for it. They asked if I had a prescription and when I said no they made me sign a form to say I had taken it before and did not hold them liable for anything.
Not cheap but at least I know I got the real thing. It's offerered on every street corner but I'm reluctant to take pills bought on the street, even if they were genuine, which I doubt.
I'm looking for a reliable supplier of Viagra in Cebu.
Anybody know of one?
(not fake stuff, from street vendors - the real thing, or a generic)
I've searched the Cebu forum for all of 2007 and can't find anything.
I'm really too old for this game, but with a little help, great things can be accomplished.
So many lovely young women - So little time!
I would not recommend a hotel downtown, but if you want sleeze central check out the Mercedes Hotel. There is also a new place downtown which I've heard good things about. I can't remember the name, but I'll look it up when I get home and can access my home computer.
X Man
Are there hotels (you could recommend) in the downtown area near Jonquera for westerners to stay or would you suggest getting a hotel in the tourist district.
I know in Phnom Penh there was a similar scene around a park where street girls were being pimped to customers for a cheap price. But there was always the chance the pimp and the girl would run off in the park after the money was handed over to the pimp.
TC.
Nice post and nice adventure. I hope you can tell us more about your Internet friend in the CHAT section.
I've helped out with the name above, but there are some other points I should clarify.
1) Go go places can be much cheaper than Mort suggests.
2) All the bar girls/street girls will tell you they are new on the job. Come back in six months and you'll get to meet them again.
3) Street pimps may ask for 1500 if you look like a newbie, but it's more like 500 or less. Maybe 1500 was the total price -- lady + tip.
4) Hilarious??? Different strokes for different folks, but I thought it was horrific to see a bunch of girls paraded in front of taxi headlights on a public street. That may be the reason for the taxi driver's reluctance. You never explained why a taxi driver was losing money on this deal...
X Man
What I meant was taxi drivers don't like taking people to Honkera simply because they lose the large percentage that they would have added on,had they brought the girl to the customer rather than taking the customer direct to the girl. The girls taking part in the parades were not shrinking violets but actually enthusiastic about parading in front of the drivers, since this is an opportunity for them to get work. I went down to the area at 2am and I will admit I was very concerned initially. My guide knew all the pimps, didn't take any crap from them and he assured me this was one of the safest places to walk in the Phillipines. He reckons the local Mafia will not allow anything to go on that threatens their trade and I really did feel very safe once I overcame my initial fear. That said it is not somewhere I would want to go flashing money or jewellery around and common sense dictates wherever you are in the world and taking a buddy along is always a good idea. The other poster Weewillem is correct with his more specific location though I was told that the action is very limited until about 6pm when it is usually going dark.
In response to Iron Duke's post about the Viagra, the local English paper carried a story this week about pharmacies being prosecuted for selling counterfeit drugs..........hope it is still functioning ok Iron Duke?
I would not recommend a hotel downtown, but if you want sleeze central check out the Mercedes Hotel. There is also a new place downtown which I've heard good things about. I can't remember the name, but I'll look it up when I get home and can access my home computer.
X ManThanks X-Man the hotel info would be helpful if you can find it.
Taking a page out of what a downtown area consist of here in the USA, my perception of a "downtown" district, is a bustling area full of locals and tourist shopping going to boutiques, theaters hotels etc. Of course there are the occasional prostitutes or drug dealer plying their trade, but nothing to be frighten of.
Reading some buzz words here, I get the impression Cebu downtown has a completely different flavor. Can someone enlighten me (without the flames) on what I will see in Cebu downtown? Is walking there during the day dangerous to me?
Tom.
Starchild2012
12-04-07, 03:04
Tom,
Cebu is safe anyplace, anytime, everywhere complimented with chicks anyplace anytime, everywhere :D
You just have to breath and be there at Cebu to pick chicks...its not
over-exageration ....You don't have to think about what we think the most while at home..
if you totally freak out, drink and f**ck 24/7....You would overspend by 20 to 30 %...but you can let your mind completely free to a new level which would be equivalent to sexual nirvana of sorts..
I only made the mistake of carrying my work load to Cebu..big mistake..but my first two weeks were bliss and then for work i got contact with outside world and it all disappeared :(
Donwtown cebu is unclean than uptown..but you can score easily...for staying...it would be better to live in uptown area ..due to many facilities and bars..pirce would be more or less same..not too much big difference..
Old folks who live in Cebu has seen the world before us and they know..they have found the paradise...its just that internet came to us and we got the information before we crossed to retirement..
Its the city that has fit retired folks and Cebu is pushing itself as retirement haven..and they surely have calculated every aspect of safety and money..so if it suits them..it will surely suit us..
Good Luck
X Man
In response to Iron Duke's post about the Viagra, the local English paper carried a story this week about pharmacies being prosecuted for selling counterfeit drugs..........hope it is still functioning ok Iron Duke?
Haven't used it yet... an emergency supply just in case Mother Nature let's me down! However, I bought it at a branch of Mercury and I would be very surprised if they did anything not reputable.
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