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Are there hotels (you could recommend) in the downtown area near Jonquera for westerners to stay or would you suggest getting a hotel in the tourist district.The hotel group "Queensland" has short-time motels in Cebu. Simple, clean and adequate room for the purpose with aircon, wc and shower (not somewhere you would want to stay several nights).
There is one within a short taxi ride from Jonquera. About 300P for a 3hr short-time. 500-600P if you stay all night. The taxi driver will know where it is.
Similar to the Thai short-time hotels where you drive right up to the room, a room boy is waiting outside to show you in and he returns collect the rental when you leave. All very simple, safe and anonymous.
I just went into a pharmacy and asked for it. They asked if I had a prescription and when I said no they made me sign a form to say I had taken it before and did not hold them liable for anything.
Not cheap but at least I know I got the real thing. It's offerered on every street corner but I'm reluctant to take pills bought on the street, even if they were genuine, which I doubt.Thanks for that and your later post Iron Duke.
Was that a Mercury pharmacy in Cebu City?
Can you recall the price?
Ooops, I couldn't find the contact info for the newer hotel in downtown Cebu. Anyway, here is a list of hotels I have. I've stayed in four or five of these places. This information came from different sources (incl ISG) and may be out of date in some areas.
Cebu Hotels area code 032 (last update 7.07)
West Gorordo maybe not guest friendly, close to Ayala Mall / Bo's. Dont get the suites / Best rooms are deluxe, 4th floor with balcony overlooking the street/alley which has interesting foot traffic.
http://www.ngkhai.net/cebuwiki/inde...t_Gorordo_Hotel http://www.westgorordohotel.com/
Mango Park Hotel, 032 233 1511 / 233 5679 http://www.ngkhai.net/cebuwiki/inde...ango_Park_Hotel
07.07 paid 1350
Northwinds Hotel – past Waterfront / cheap http://www.ngkhai.net/cebuwiki/inde...orthwinds_Hotel
Crowne Garden Hotel on Salinas St. 1300 incl breakfast
Waterfront, nice pool, check out H2O club 232 6888
Richmond Plaza Hotel, 232-4613 (-18) richmondhotelcebu@yahoo.com
Lahug on gororodo, facelift for ASEAN summit 2006 http://www.richmondhotelcebu.com/
Castle Peak Hotel http://www.ngkhai.net/cebuwiki/inde...stle_Peak_Hotel http://www.castlepeakhotel.net/
Cebu Grand Hotel, near Capital 1600 to 4200 / roof pool / 254 6331 / 6361/ 6362 info@cebugrandhotel.com www.cebugrandhotel.com
Cebu Midtown Hotel 63 32 253-9711 2000peso+
Hotel de Mercedes, downtown 253 1105
Rajah Park Hotel (032) 412 3337 / 412 4850 Some rooms no windows. Rates start at 1500, incl breakfast
Holiday Plaza (032) 254 9880 holiday@holidayplazacebu.com
www.holidayplazacebu.com Superior 1900 / Biz class 2300 / Exec 3300 good buffet breakfast included
Hotel le Carmen, near net café, 255 6366/67 P1000 to 1450 large room is better
Diplomat Hotel, 90 F. Ramos Street 032 253 0099 diplomathotel@yahoo.com
prices 1200- 2,500 (suite in new wing), clean, some rooms have nice views www.diplomathotel.com.ph
Kiwi Lodge 1060 G. Tudtud Street, Mabolo 032 232 9550 kiwilodge@pacific.net.ph 850-1250
LS 2 pension house, Junquera Ext. 254-8406 / 259-0826 P600 / no guests
Casa Rosario, 101-E Ramon Aboitiz St. 255 0525 / 256 2225 / 253 5134 www.casarosario.net 1000-1300
Kan Irag Hotel 253 1151 (-57) under 1000 kanhotel@pop.cebu.pw.net.ph
Hotel Asia, down a side street opposite Doctor’s college, 11 Don Jose Avila St.
032 255 8536 / P1200 to 3k incl. breakfast / Japanese focus/ hotelasia@pldtdsl.net
hotelasiacebu.com / nice rooms, exec has desk and sofa for 2500
Mactan Hotels
Bella Vista and Cesario have free airport transfer and use xenios@mozcom.com
Bella Vista 032 340 7821 P1500 www.thebellavistahotel.com
Hotel Cesario, incl breakfast 340 0211 / 254 9880 ??? www.hotelcesario.com
Cebu Beach Club , Buyong, Lapu Lapu $55 340 7994 032 495 7717 cbclub@mozcom.com
Alegre beach www.alegrebeach.com.ph
Pacific Cebu Resort, Japanese mgmt
Cebu marine Beach Resort 1500 pesos 032 340 5727 suite 4680
Crowne Regency Princevilla / 2400-4000 Very good swimmimg pool, good coffee shop
Thanks everyone for your feedback and hotel information.
Tom.
Kiwi Lodge 1060 G. Tudtud Street, Mabolo 032 232 9550 kiwilodge@pacific.net.ph 850-1250
Oh, I should add that the the info at Wikipedia travel says that Americans are not welcome, the owner dislikes Americans.
Hmmm, that may be a bit of kiwi humor there, or maybe just trying to scare off the ones who have no clue about sarcasm....
The place is kind of far from the action, but they do have some sheep there. If you're not American, the mgmt will probably let ewe have a go at em...
Nightrider1
12-06-07, 02:01
Kiwi Lodge 1060 G. Tudtud Street, Mabolo 032 232 9550 kiwilodge@pacific.net.ph 850-1250
Oh, I should add that the the info at Wikipedia travel says that Americans are not welcome, the owner dislikes Americans.
Hmmm, that may be a bit of kiwi humor there, or maybe just trying to scare off the ones who have no clue about sarcasm....
The place is kind of far from the action, but they do have some sheep there. If you're not American, the mgmt will probably let ewe have a go at em...
Kiwi Lodge not liking Americans might be true. I am from USA and on 3 different trips I stopped by Kiwi Lodge trying to get a room and each time they said they had no vacancy. Just a coincidence?? Hmmmm
Kiwi Lodge not liking Americans might be true. I am from USA and on 3 different trips I stopped by Kiwi Lodge trying to get a room and each time they said they had no vacancy. Just a coincidence?? HmmmmI'm an American and have visited Kiwi Lodge on 2 different occasions. The first time I was there just to check it out for future use and ended up drinking at the bar for an hour or two. The second time I stayed there. The place is operated by a New Zealander and his son. The first time I chatted with the father. He couldn't have been friendlier. He did say he had a problem with Koreans staying there in the past. I got a lot of good information from some of the local characters who visit the bar.
The second time I was there, the father was at a resort they own somewhere else on the island. The son was running things and he too was friendly and helpful. They have only a few rooms and are in the process of adding another wing. Also, their prices are quite reasonable. I think that's why it's always full.
As someone mentioned, it's out of the way a bit. About a 15 minute hike to Ayala Center and a cab ride to Mango street. The internet at the hotel and the cybercafe half a block away were extremely slow. Otherwise a good, clean, reasonable place to stay.
Kiwi Lodge 1060 G. Tudtud Street, Mabolo 032 232 9550 kiwilodge@pacific.net.ph 850-1250
The place is kind of far from the action, but they do have some sheep there. If you're not American, the mgmt will probably let ewe have a go at em...If so, you should think about bringing those hi rubber boots as you can stick theirs back legs in it so that they can not run away.
Web Connect
12-07-07, 00:26
since there has been a lot of posted recently about junquera and casa's so i thought i should post this article that in my humble opinion is very accurate.
oldest prostitution district in the philippines
i have to be a sexagenarian in order to be embedded in the oldest prostitution district in the country.
in my whole life of almost sixty years, twenty-five years of which were spent as a journalist, i have never really gone inside a red light district.
of course, i have seen the famous red light district of amsterdam, where the women are on display in glass display windows. but it is only from a safe distance. i have just been driven around the blocks in a car by a dutch cousin-in-law and his wife.
i have seen the women for sale in the streets of bangkok. but it is also from afar.
i have walked up and down ermita in manila, pasay, even makati, and seen the women of the night sitting or standing by the doorways of karaoke bars, massage parlors, cheap motels and hotels and other entertainment establishments. again, from a distance.
in kamagayan, cebu, however, i have really gone inside the red light district with field social workers. i have met and talked with the prostitutes and the pimps. i have seen the street watchers, some of whom are minors and the mama sans, some of whom are also sexagenarians. the only people i have not seen are the real owners and their politician protectors.
the story of most prostitutes are the same, they are young, well-protected daughters of decent fathers, mostly poor farmers and fishermen in the smaller and farthest towns of our country. they have reached only grade or high school level. very few are in college. most have run away from home, because of dire poverty, which by united nations definition of poverty is a family, usually of five members, that earns only one dollar a day or even less. they are lured by promises of a recruiter to be given decent work as waitress or sales lady in the city. the family is usually promised a monthly salary of three thousand pesos and the first month's salary is given in advance to the family.
but you can establish a profile of the filipino prostitute. when asked how old they are, they always say they are 18 to about 24. you look at their faces and bodies and many of them are minors. in fact, their ages really range from 14 up to 65. sexagenarians are also in demand, although not as much as children in pre-puberty, whose sexual fluids are supposedly the fountain of youth.
they never tell you their real ages. just as they never tell you where they come from and what are their real names. the names of the same persons even change every night.
at the very outset, here are women living a life of lies, lying to and fighting with others and lying even to themselves. you look into their eyes, and you see hurt and the woundedness of filipino women without a positive self image, without a sense of self worth and without self respect. there is an identity crisis in each and every girl.
for who can accept such a sordid life in such a sordid profession?
cebu is the oldest city in the country, the exact place where portuguese navigator in the service of the spanish crown, ferdinand magellan discovered the philippines for the west. mactan is where lapulapu killed magellan when he got involved in the rivalry between two native chieftains on april 27, 1521. cebu is where the cross of christianity was first planted and the statue of the santo nino was given to the wife of rajah humabon, hara amihan, who was baptized and named queen juana.
and yet baranggay kamagayan in cebu, is the oldest red light district in the philippines.
archival records speak of kamagayan district as early as 1906. periodical records report it as a prostitution district as early as 1920. and it is plausible, because most prostitution districts in the world, from ancient greece up to today, are located at the piers or at the end of the train line. and kamagayan used to be the end of the train stations.
baranggay kamagayan, which has a baranggay center and even a health center that displays prominently information on hiv aids and std diseases, is composed of three blocks, bordered by the streets of junquera, p. del rosario, jakosalem and sanciangco. junquera has been known as the street of prostitution as early as 1920.
junquera is a one way street, but at night, taxis and cars can go against the traffic into the baranggay.
demographically speaking there are about 42 casas or brothels, or prostitution dens here, with about 42 mamasans or den mothers. as of today, they have gone down to 35. they are called ate by the girls, older women oftentimes dressed in dusters and playing cards through the night, or simply sitting around with fans in their hands.
there are about 60 to 80 pimps in one night, those who negotiate with the men for the girls. there are certain rules to follow in the negotiation. when a foreigner arrives in cebu, the taxi driver may ask if the foreigner needs a girl for a night. if the guest agrees, he is brought into kamagayan, really a slum or squatter area in the same taxi. the pimps cover the four streets, together with street watchers. the first pimp that the guest or taxi driver talks to owns the negotiation. so the pimps do not fight over the same commercial transactions.
the girls sit on plastic monobloc benches strewn all over the baranggay, in street corners, in front of houses or casas, and in the small unpaved plaza. i also sat on one of those plastic monobloc chairs, which is really a child’s chair!
when the taxi enters the small plaza clearing, the girls line up. there can be ten to twenty, or fifty to seventy girls in the choral line up. on heavy days, there can be two hundred fifty girls in many different line up. the cheaper girls are in the entry points of the baranggay. the more beautiful ones, the more expensive ones are inside the depths of the baranggay.
the headlights of the taxi flood over the girls in the line-up. then the customer, inside the taxi, chooses his girl. the girl may go with the customer to his pension house, motel, five star hotel, beach resort, or rent any of the casa rooms or cubicles in the baranggay.
in a place called city center, which is actually a market during the day, but turned into a prostitution house for the night, there are cubicles for rent for only twenty to thirty pesos short time. the cubicles are as small as a confessional box, with only a single mattress on the muddy floor, and the walls are made of thin unpainted plywood. you can hear whatever is happening inside.
the cubicle is the most nauseating sight that an advocate for women’s rights and against child abuses could ever see. even i have never felt the same revulsion, when i saw the ancient excavated prostitution houses in pompeii, italy, with pornographic paintings on the walls, and chairs and beds based on stone.
how is ra 9262, the law against violence of women and child abuse, or r.a. 9208, the law against trafficking of women and children applying in this case? the philippines has 500,000 prostitutes in the whole country according to conservative estimate.
nobody knows about r.a. 9208 among the girls. they imagine it as 69. they think that they are the most beautiful girls, from head to toes, and they even have the most beautiful female organ, said straight in the local dialect.
on ordinary days, there are 100, 300 to 500 prostitutes here in cebu. one girl can cost from three hundred to five hundred pesos. but their cost can go down to a measly fifty pesos to one hundred pesos. the first class prostitutes, who in fact do not sit here or join the line, cost about fifteen thousand to seventy thousand pesos.
the official share of this payment from fifty pesos to five hundred pesos is twenty-five percent for the girl, twenty five percent for the pimp, and fifty percent for the mamasan.
the girls do not get their payment in cash, though. it is listed on paper, and used as debt payment for the food, lodging, clothing, make-up, medicine or even drugs that the girls are given. it is worse than five-six. if the girl has no customer, she is not given food. there are many days, when the girls complain that they have not eaten the whole day.
the girls are also forbidden to talk to strangers, even to the customers, and especially to social workers. they are fined when they are caught talking to strangers. the fine is charged against their earning.
kamagayan is busy from eight thirty in the evening up to four thirty at dawn. ironically, it is at dawn that the manangs of cebu walk in a procession praying the rosary in junquera street.
traffic is heavy on certain days, especially paydays on the fifteenth and last day of the month, and when there is a convention in cebu. even charismatic conventions, interdenominational and all kinds of religion is no exemption
most of the clients are construction workers in the lower bracket, teenage students, unfaithful husbands, businessmen, and foreigners in the upper bracket of the economic ladder. most are male clients, but there can also be female customers.
the heaviest traffic is when american troops go on rest and recreation in cebu. then casas all over the country also congregate here. and they can buy whole casas from luzon, or visayas, or mindanao and transport them over here
the cinderella dream of each prostitute, like pretty woman, is to be rescued from this dungeon in a tower, by a knight in shining armor, preferably rich and handsome as richard gere. some foreigners get them as live-in partners and promise them marriage to have a live-in prostitute is cheaper than to get a girl every night. for the customer pays only for food and gifts for the girl. but when the girl gets pregnant, she is sent out of the customer’s house, and even beaten up sometimes.
a fourteen or seventeen-year-old girl had already died, beaten up and stabbed by her customer in the casa. the tragedy lies not just on the meaninglessness of her death. but the fact that nobody knows her real name and where she comes from. her relatives do not know what really happened to her and so she is buried incognito.
as i write this, i put to risk the lives of the girls, the social workers and even myself and my fearless editors. because the knee jerk reaction of government after such a hard-hitting expose as this is to raid the red light district and imprison the girls and the pimps for vagrancy. the under the table fine is one hundred pesos. the real fine is one thousand pesos per girl. never have they caught any owner or a prostitution lord. never have they caught a client in the act.
the girls may be abused by their casa owners and even the police.
the girls will have no business for a few weeks and no food to eat.
kamagayan, the red light district will be quiet.
president gloria macapagal-arroyo suggests the transfer of the department of tourism to cebu. there are many direct flights to and from cebu and other foreign countries. a proportion of any flight manifest from manila consists of male foreigners and filipino girls flying together on a three day vacation, but they are not related to each other. nobody does a julia robert’s act here, pretending to be a niece of the companion.
in bus stations of well known sources of recruitment, a male/female recruiter usually travels with five minors, none of them his or her relatives. the children are also not related to each other. how do you stop them? can you make a citizen’s arrest for intention to commit the crime of trafficking? what if they answer that they are just going on a field trip?
what is the country trying to sell?
tourism or a pound of flesh
by josephine acosta pasricha
the girls in the casas are waiting to go to manila, singapore or japan. the amount they have to pay the pimps back start there... and never ends.. some never make it to their destination. the casa's in my opinion are safe to visit. there is no real savings and you can't really see the girls body because they are not in bikinis. the girls may not be up to date on their city health visits.the girls in junquera are definitely not visiting city health every week.
by visiting these places you are taking big risks to save a small amount of money. even more so in junquara.
there are crack downs in junquara and you can be easily set up... the papas/mamasans are just as cracked out as the girls and will turn you in with out a problem. there is no protection there. trying to save a few peso's will cost you a lot more in the long run.
it is just like gambling and listening to gamblers... you only hear about the winnings and never the loses. there are articles in the paper about the busts or killings to the pimp drug attics... you never read about the foreigners being busted because they pay their pay out. that is not to say it does'nt happen.
if you want to go down there to look around and say you where there... have fun.... grab a 40 oz of redhorse and enjoy yourself and watch. it does'nt mean you have to partake. the quality of the girls are the lowest ( worse than blow row in ac ). if you can afford a flight and hotel ... do you really need to save 500 pesos just so you can say you got some pussy for the local price ? ? ? you may wind up getting busted of the chance of an std.
if you are going to casa's or junquara looking for **** girls you will get busted eventually and have everything coming to you ! it may cost you a lot more than money nlm ( that is me giving you the middle finger )
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Web Connect
12-07-07, 00:35
Since there has been a lot of posted recently about Junquera and Casa's so I thought I should post this article that in my humble opinion should be read.
Oldest Prostitution District in the Philippines
By Josephine Acosta Pasricha
I have to be a sexagenarian in order to be embedded in the oldest prostitution district in the country.
In my whole life of almost sixty years, twenty-five years of which were spent as a journalist, I have never really gone inside a red light district.
Of course, I have seen the famous red light district of Amsterdam, where the women are on display in glass display windows. But it is only from a safe distance. I have just been driven around the blocks in a car by a Dutch cousin-in-law and his wife.
I have seen the women for sale in the streets of Bangkok. But it is also from afar.
I have walked up and down Ermita in Manila, Pasay, even Makati, and seen the women of the night sitting or standing by the doorways of karaoke bars, massage parlors, cheap motels and hotels and other entertainment establishments. Again, from a distance.
In Kamagayan, Cebu, however, I have really gone inside the red light district with field social workers. I have met and talked with the prostitutes and the pimps. I have seen the street watchers, some of whom are minors and the mama sans, some of whom are also sexagenarians. The only people I have not seen are the real owners and their politician protectors.
The story of most prostitutes are the same, they are young, well-protected daughters of decent fathers, mostly poor farmers and fishermen in the smaller and farthest towns of our country. They have reached only grade or high school level. Very few are in college. Most have run away from home, because of dire poverty, which by United Nations definition of poverty is a family, usually of five members, that earns only one dollar a day or even less. They are lured by promises of a recruiter to be given decent work as waitress or sales lady in the city. The family is usually promised a monthly salary of three thousand pesos and the first month's salary is given in advance to the family.
But you can establish a profile of the Filipino prostitute. When asked how old they are, they always say they are 18 to about 24. You look at their faces and bodies and many of them are minors. In fact, their ages really range from 14 up to 65. Sexagenarians are also in demand, although not as much as children in pre-puberty, whose sexual fluids are supposedly the fountain of youth.
They never tell you their real ages. Just as they never tell you where they come from and what are their real names. The names of the same persons even change every night.
At the very outset, here are women living a life of lies, lying to and fighting with others and lying even to themselves. You look into their eyes, and you see hurt and the woundedness of Filipino women without a positive self image, without a sense of self worth and without self respect. There is an identity crisis in each and every girl.
For who can accept such a sordid life in such a sordid profession?
Cebu is the oldest city in the country, the exact place where Portuguese navigator in the service of the Spanish crown, Ferdinand Magellan discovered the Philippines for the West. Mactan is where Lapulapu killed Magellan when he got involved in the rivalry between two native chieftains on April 27, 1521. Cebu is where the cross of Christianity was first planted and the Statue of the Santo Nino was given to the wife of Rajah Humabon, Hara Amihan, who was baptized and named Queen Juana.
And yet Baranggay Kamagayan in Cebu, is the oldest red light district in the Philippines.
Archival records speak of Kamagayan district as early as 1906. Periodical records report it as a prostitution district as early as 1920. And it is plausible, because most prostitution districts in the world, from ancient Greece up to today, are located at the piers or at the end of the train line. And Kamagayan used to be the end of the train stations.
Baranggay Kamagayan, which has a baranggay center and even a health center that displays prominently information on HIV AIDS and STD diseases, is composed of three blocks, bordered by the streets of Junquera, P. del Rosario, Jakosalem and Sanciangco. Junquera has been known as the street of prostitution as early as 1920.
Junquera is a one way street, but at night, taxis and cars can go against the traffic into the baranggay.
Demographically speaking there are about 42 casas or brothels, or prostitution dens here, with about 42 mamasans or den mothers. As of today, they have gone down to 35. They are called Ate by the girls, older women oftentimes dressed in dusters and playing cards through the night, or simply sitting around with fans in their hands.
There are about 60 to 80 pimps in one night, those who negotiate with the men for the girls. There are certain rules to follow in the negotiation. When a foreigner arrives in Cebu, the taxi driver may ask if the foreigner needs a girl for a night. If the guest agrees, he is brought into Kamagayan, really a slum or squatter area in the same taxi. The pimps cover the four streets, together with street watchers. The first pimp that the guest or taxi driver talks to owns the negotiation. So the pimps do not fight over the same commercial transactions.
The girls sit on plastic monobloc benches strewn all over the baranggay, in street corners, in front of houses or casas, and in the small unpaved plaza. I also sat on one of those plastic monobloc chairs, which is really a child’s chair!
When the taxi enters the small plaza clearing, the girls line up. There can be ten to twenty, or fifty to seventy girls in the choral line up. On heavy days, there can be two hundred fifty girls in many different line up. The cheaper girls are in the entry points of the baranggay. The more beautiful ones, the more expensive ones are inside the depths of the baranggay.
The headlights of the taxi flood over the girls in the line-up. Then the customer, inside the taxi, chooses his girl. The girl may go with the customer to his pension house, motel, five star hotel, beach resort, or rent any of the casa rooms or cubicles in the baranggay.
In a place called City Center, which is actually a market during the day, but turned into a prostitution house for the night, there are cubicles for rent for only twenty to thirty pesos short time. The cubicles are as small as a confessional box, with only a single mattress on the muddy floor, and the walls are made of thin unpainted plywood. You can hear whatever is happening inside.
The cubicle is the most nauseating sight that an advocate for women’s rights and against child abuses could ever see. Even I have never felt the same revulsion, when I saw the ancient excavated prostitution houses in Pompeii, Italy, with pornographic paintings on the walls, and chairs and beds based on stone.
How is RA 9262, the Law Against Violence of Women and Child Abuse, or R.A. 9208, the Law Against Trafficking of Women and Children applying in this case? The Philippines has 500,000 prostitutes in the whole country according to conservative estimate.
Nobody knows about R.A. 9208 among the girls. They imagine it as 69. They think that they are the most beautiful girls, from head to toes, and they even have the most beautiful female organ, said straight in the local dialect.
On ordinary days, there are 100, 300 to 500 prostitutes here in Cebu. One girl can cost from three hundred to five hundred pesos. But their cost can go down to a measly fifty pesos to one hundred pesos. The first class prostitutes, who in fact do not sit here or join the line, cost about fifteen thousand to seventy thousand pesos.
The official share of this payment from fifty pesos to five hundred pesos is twenty-five percent for the girl, twenty five percent for the pimp, and fifty percent for the mamasan.
The girls do not get their payment in cash, though. It is listed on paper, and used as debt payment for the food, lodging, clothing, make-up, medicine or even drugs that the girls are given. It is worse than five-six. If the girl has no customer, she is not given food. There are many days, when the girls complain that they have not eaten the whole day.
The girls are also forbidden to talk to strangers, even to the customers, and especially to social workers. They are fined when they are caught talking to strangers. The fine is charged against their earning.
Kamagayan is busy from eight thirty in the evening up to four thirty at dawn. Ironically, it is at dawn that the manangs of Cebu walk in a procession praying the rosary in Junquera street.
Traffic is heavy on certain days, especially paydays on the fifteenth and last day of the month, and when there is a convention in Cebu. Even charismatic conventions, interdenominational and all kinds of religion is no exemption
Most of the clients are construction workers in the lower bracket, teenage students, unfaithful husbands, businessmen, and foreigners in the upper bracket of the economic ladder. Most are male clients, but there can also be female customers.
The heaviest traffic is when American troops go on rest and recreation in Cebu. Then casas all over the country also congregate here. And they can buy whole casas from Luzon, or Visayas, or Mindanao and transport them over here
The Cinderella dream of each prostitute, like Pretty Woman, is to be rescued from this dungeon in a tower, by a knight in shining armor, preferably rich and handsome as Richard Gere. Some foreigners get them as live-in partners and promise them marriage To have a live-in prostitute is cheaper than to get a girl every night. For the customer pays only for food and gifts for the girl. But when the girl gets pregnant, she is sent out of the customer’s house, and even beaten up sometimes.
A fourteen or seventeen-year-old girl had already died, beaten up and stabbed by her customer in the casa. The tragedy lies not just on the meaninglessness of her death. But the fact that nobody knows her real name and where she comes from. Her relatives do not know what really happened to her and so she is buried incognito.
As I write this, I put to risk the lives of the girls, the social workers and even myself and my fearless editors. Because the knee jerk reaction of government after such a hard-hitting expose as this is to raid the red light district and imprison the girls and the pimps for vagrancy. The under the table fine is one hundred pesos. The real fine is one thousand pesos per girl. Never have they caught any owner or a prostitution lord. Never have they caught a client in the act.
The girls may be abused by their casa owners and even the police.
The girls will have no business for a few weeks and no food to eat.
Kamagayan, the red light district will be quiet.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo suggests the transfer of the Department of Tourism to Cebu. There are many direct flights to and from Cebu and other foreign countries. A proportion of any flight manifest from Manila consists of male foreigners and Filipino girls flying together on a three day vacation, but they are not related to each other. Nobody does a Julia Robert’s act here, pretending to be a niece of the companion.
In bus stations of well known sources of recruitment, a male/female recruiter usually travels with five minors, none of them his or her relatives. The children are also not related to each other. How do you stop them? Can you make a citizen’s arrest for intention to commit the crime of trafficking? What if they answer that they are just going on a field trip?
What is the country trying to sell?
Tourism or a pound of flesh
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Since there has been a lot of posted recently about Junquera and Casa's so I thought I should post this article that in my humble opinion should be read.
Oldest Prostitution District in the Philippines
By Josephine Acosta Pasricha
I have to be a sexagenarian in order to be embedded in the oldest prostitution district in the country.
In my whole life of almost sixty years, twenty-five years of which were spent as a journalist, I have never really gone inside a red light district.
Of course, I have seen the famous red light district of Amsterdam, where the women are on display in glass display windows. But it is only from a safe distance. I have just been driven around the blocks in a car by a Dutch cousin-in-law and his wife.
I have seen the women for sale in the streets of Bangkok. But it is also from afar.
I have walked up and down Ermita in Manila, Pasay, even Makati, and seen the women of the night sitting or standing by the doorways of karaoke bars, massage parlors, cheap motels and hotels and other entertainment establishments. Again, from a distance.
In Kamagayan, Cebu, however, I have really gone inside the red light district with field social workers. I have met and talked with the prostitutes and the pimps. I have seen the street watchers, some of whom are minors and the mama sans, some of whom are also sexagenarians. The only people I have not seen are the real owners and their politician protectors.
The story of most prostitutes are the same, they are young, well-protected daughters of decent fathers, mostly poor farmers and fishermen in the smaller and farthest towns of our country. They have reached only grade or high school level. Very few are in college. Most have run away from home, because of dire poverty, which by United Nations definition of poverty is a family, usually of five members, that earns only one dollar a day or even less. They are lured by promises of a recruiter to be given decent work as waitress or sales lady in the city. The family is usually promised a monthly salary of three thousand pesos and the first month's salary is given in advance to the family.
But you can establish a profile of the Filipino prostitute. When asked how old they are, they always say they are 18 to about 24. You look at their faces and bodies and many of them are minors. In fact, their ages really range from 14 up to 65. Sexagenarians are also in demand, although not as much as children in pre-puberty, whose sexual fluids are supposedly the fountain of youth.
They never tell you their real ages. Just as they never tell you where they come from and what are their real names. The names of the same persons even change every night.
At the very outset, here are women living a life of lies, lying to and fighting with others and lying even to themselves. You look into their eyes, and you see hurt and the woundedness of Filipino women without a positive self image, without a sense of self worth and without self respect. There is an identity crisis in each and every girl.
For who can accept such a sordid life in such a sordid profession?
Cebu is the oldest city in the country, the exact place where Portuguese navigator in the service of the Spanish crown, Ferdinand Magellan discovered the Philippines for the West. Mactan is where Lapulapu killed Magellan when he got involved in the rivalry between two native chieftains on April 27, 1521. Cebu is where the cross of Christianity was first planted and the Statue of the Santo Nino was given to the wife of Rajah Humabon, Hara Amihan, who was baptized and named Queen Juana.
And yet Baranggay Kamagayan in Cebu, is the oldest red light district in the Philippines.
Archival records speak of Kamagayan district as early as 1906. Periodical records report it as a prostitution district as early as 1920. And it is plausible, because most prostitution districts in the world, from ancient Greece up to today, are located at the piers or at the end of the train line. And Kamagayan used to be the end of the train stations.
Baranggay Kamagayan, which has a baranggay center and even a health center that displays prominently information on HIV AIDS and STD diseases, is composed of three blocks, bordered by the streets of Junquera, P. del Rosario, Jakosalem and Sanciangco. Junquera has been known as the street of prostitution as early as 1920.
Junquera is a one way street, but at night, taxis and cars can go against the traffic into the baranggay.
Demographically speaking there are about 42 casas or brothels, or prostitution dens here, with about 42 mamasans or den mothers. As of today, they have gone down to 35. They are called Ate by the girls, older women oftentimes dressed in dusters and playing cards through the night, or simply sitting around with fans in their hands.
There are about 60 to 80 pimps in one night, those who negotiate with the men for the girls. There are certain rules to follow in the negotiation. When a foreigner arrives in Cebu, the taxi driver may ask if the foreigner needs a girl for a night. If the guest agrees, he is brought into Kamagayan, really a slum or squatter area in the same taxi. The pimps cover the four streets, together with street watchers. The first pimp that the guest or taxi driver talks to owns the negotiation. So the pimps do not fight over the same commercial transactions.
The girls sit on plastic monobloc benches strewn all over the baranggay, in street corners, in front of houses or casas, and in the small unpaved plaza. I also sat on one of those plastic monobloc chairs, which is really a child’s chair!
When the taxi enters the small plaza clearing, the girls line up. There can be ten to twenty, or fifty to seventy girls in the choral line up. On heavy days, there can be two hundred fifty girls in many different line up. The cheaper girls are in the entry points of the baranggay. The more beautiful ones, the more expensive ones are inside the depths of the baranggay.
The headlights of the taxi flood over the girls in the line-up. Then the customer, inside the taxi, chooses his girl. The girl may go with the customer to his pension house, motel, five star hotel, beach resort, or rent any of the casa rooms or cubicles in the baranggay.
In a place called City Center, which is actually a market during the day, but turned into a prostitution house for the night, there are cubicles for rent for only twenty to thirty pesos short time. The cubicles are as small as a confessional box, with only a single mattress on the muddy floor, and the walls are made of thin unpainted plywood. You can hear whatever is happening inside.
The cubicle is the most nauseating sight that an advocate for women’s rights and against child abuses could ever see. Even I have never felt the same revulsion, when I saw the ancient excavated prostitution houses in Pompeii, Italy, with pornographic paintings on the walls, and chairs and beds based on stone.
How is RA 9262, the Law Against Violence of Women and Child Abuse, or R.A. 9208, the Law Against Trafficking of Women and Children applying in this case? The Philippines has 500,000 prostitutes in the whole country according to conservative estimate.
Nobody knows about R.A. 9208 among the girls. They imagine it as 69. They think that they are the most beautiful girls, from head to toes, and they even have the most beautiful female organ, said straight in the local dialect.
On ordinary days, there are 100, 300 to 500 prostitutes here in Cebu. One girl can cost from three hundred to five hundred pesos. But their cost can go down to a measly fifty pesos to one hundred pesos. The first class prostitutes, who in fact do not sit here or join the line, cost about fifteen thousand to seventy thousand pesos.
The official share of this payment from fifty pesos to five hundred pesos is twenty-five percent for the girl, twenty five percent for the pimp, and fifty percent for the mamasan.
The girls do not get their payment in cash, though. It is listed on paper, and used as debt payment for the food, lodging, clothing, make-up, medicine or even drugs that the girls are given. It is worse than five-six. If the girl has no customer, she is not given food. There are many days, when the girls complain that they have not eaten the whole day.
The girls are also forbidden to talk to strangers, even to the customers, and especially to social workers. They are fined when they are caught talking to strangers. The fine is charged against their earning.
Kamagayan is busy from eight thirty in the evening up to four thirty at dawn. Ironically, it is at dawn that the manangs of Cebu walk in a procession praying the rosary in Junquera street.
Traffic is heavy on certain days, especially paydays on the fifteenth and last day of the month, and when there is a convention in Cebu. Even charismatic conventions, interdenominational and all kinds of religion is no exemption
Most of the clients are construction workers in the lower bracket, teenage students, unfaithful husbands, businessmen, and foreigners in the upper bracket of the economic ladder. Most are male clients, but there can also be female customers.
The heaviest traffic is when American troops go on rest and recreation in Cebu. Then casas all over the country also congregate here. And they can buy whole casas from Luzon, or Visayas, or Mindanao and transport them over here
The Cinderella dream of each prostitute, like Pretty Woman, is to be rescued from this dungeon in a tower, by a knight in shining armor, preferably rich and handsome as Richard Gere. Some foreigners get them as live-in partners and promise them marriage To have a live-in prostitute is cheaper than to get a girl every night. For the customer pays only for food and gifts for the girl. But when the girl gets pregnant, she is sent out of the customer’s house, and even beaten up sometimes.
A fourteen or seventeen-year-old girl had already died, beaten up and stabbed by her customer in the casa. The tragedy lies not just on the meaninglessness of her death. But the fact that nobody knows her real name and where she comes from. Her relatives do not know what really happened to her and so she is buried incognito.
As I write this, I put to risk the lives of the girls, the social workers and even myself and my fearless editors. Because the knee jerk reaction of government after such a hard-hitting expose as this is to raid the red light district and imprison the girls and the pimps for vagrancy. The under the table fine is one hundred pesos. The real fine is one thousand pesos per girl. Never have they caught any owner or a prostitution lord. Never have they caught a client in the act.
The girls may be abused by their casa owners and even the police.
The girls will have no business for a few weeks and no food to eat.
Kamagayan, the red light district will be quiet.
President Gloria Macapagal-Arroyo suggests the transfer of the Department of Tourism to Cebu. There are many direct flights to and from Cebu and other foreign countries. A proportion of any flight manifest from Manila consists of male foreigners and Filipino girls flying together on a three day vacation, but they are not related to each other. Nobody does a Julia Robert’s act here, pretending to be a niece of the companion.
In bus stations of well known sources of recruitment, a male/female recruiter usually travels with five minors, none of them his or her relatives. The children are also not related to each other. How do you stop them? Can you make a citizen’s arrest for intention to commit the crime of trafficking? What if they answer that they are just going on a field trip?
What is the country trying to sell?
Tourism or a pound of flesh
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Thank you for bringing some balance here to this discussion.
Happy mongering
Amavida
Been There
12-07-07, 12:06
Thanks for that post WebConexxion. It exposes the underbelly of not just the Philippines but many nations. However the depiction of innocent girls lured to the city is a little dated. Well actually more than a little. Most of the working girls I have spoken with made a conscious decision to enter the 'profession' for a variety of reasons. From greed to the wish to educate their child. This sort of 'expose' focuses on a subgroup and is naturally inclined to believe the testimony of the girls themselves whilst admitting that most of them couldn't lie straight in a bed of a nighttime! It was a good read but a tad unbalanced, she certainly got it right though as to the complete lack of political will to prosecute the real criminals!
Starchild2012
12-07-07, 12:58
Since there has been a lot of posted recently about Junquera and Casa's so I thought I should post this article that in my humble opinion is VERY accurate.
Oldest Prostitution District in the Philippines
[I]I have to be a sexagenarian in order to be embedded in the oldest prostitution district in the country.
In my whole life of almost sixty years, twenty-five years of which were spent as a journalist, I have never really gone inside a red light district.
The first few lines itself shows from where he comes...
Guys he has being a journalist all his life not a monger ..they have a different take altogether on what they see...."Do not go with the EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL he is subjecting you to the plight of women working in Casa and bars in Cebu"
They have to write it this way to get the "ATTENTION" and evoke your softer side of mind.
I'm a monger and i have paid for sex in Cebu and so are lot of others in this thread...DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF A JOURNALIST...they don't feel it real..they just observe it from a distance..
He sounds as if prostitution is a sin and we all should live in guilt forever...
Every f^^cking sad thing in a third world country has to be justified with 1 dollar a day crap..
Its so convenient for these writers and care takers to jolt down few lines and justify the sad state of women with poverty and club down every piece of
s hit in her life to 1 dollar a day problem.
Over the years we have seen these pathetic journos who have nothing better to do..but to showcase the plight of these prostitutes and make monger guilty of their sins and burn in hell..
With these kind of writing..prostitution will never come out of the shades and women will never be treated equal to men....all they do is see their plight..why couldn't they write something positive and accept the facts that.P4P is a reality..the oldest one infact and here to stay till the end of the world.
The very reason prostitution has not seen the light of the day..is because these kind of journos always ..see it with plight, sickness and poverty..why not make it a industry, legalise it, give insurance cover to women...
WHY THE F^^CK WOMEN ARE NOT TREATED EQUAL TO MEN and have to live under OUR SO CALLED PITY FULL SOCIETY..
He could have written about the scene in Cebu..combined with what positive could be made by legalizing, government support and insurance cover..but all he took was his two cent journo brain and club it up with the plight of women, sickness, poverty..those f^^^Cking damm cliche..that refuses to go in this information age..
and to top it all..the Editor agrees and wants this article to be posted in one of the distinctions..how sad..im sure..its not jackson but the moderator who has not even contemplated what this means to the very BASIS OF ISG.
ohh sure there are certain info's he has given about casa..but its shades over his real intention of showing women working in casa look sorry, pityfull, sick a ss women who are controlled by pimps and politicians,,yeah this works..and gets him browny emotional points from the reader..
The standard FXXCKING way to kill a monger with emotional distress looking at a women in casa.
Guys..You wanna know what casa is GO and F UCK the girls..spend time with them and if you really wanna digg deep into their life with YOUR HEART NOT WITH YOUR PEN..You will know the truth..
I have gone with girls from casa and its not that they are living in 7th hell..sure there are problems..but not worse than sweatshops in China and India.
Every girl i went with in Casa were as adventures and cool as any other girl i met..sure they wanna get out of Casa for a better living..BUT ITS NOT THAT>>THEY WILL DIE NOW if they don't get out...some of them will turn out to be mamasans which is a good thing....some of them go back to their home...
NO ONE IS FORCING THEM TO STAY>>THEY ARE FREE TO GO AND COME BACK AS AN WHEN THEY WISH AND DESIRE....Their life is no worse than girl working in a night shit at JollyBee.
They don't need our pity...It would have being way way much better..if their profession have got the respect they deserve for so long.
Folks..just go and enjoy Cebu and f %%ck as many girls you like...
Ultimately, they will be free as much as we will be..
Australasia
12-07-07, 16:00
Originally Posted by WebConexxion
Since there has been a lot of posted recently about Junquera and Casa's so I thought I should post this article that in my humble opinion is VERY accurate.
Oldest Prostitution District in the Philippines
[I]I have to be a sexagenarian in order to be embedded in the oldest prostitution district in the country.
In my whole life of almost sixty years, twenty-five years of which were spent as a journalist, I have never really gone inside a red light district.The first few lines itself shows from where he comes.
Guys, he has being a journalist all his life not a monger. They have a different take altogether on what they see. "Do not go with the EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL he is subjecting you to the plight of women working in Casa and bars in Cebu"
They have to write it this way to get the "ATTENTION" and evoke your softer side of mind.
I'm a monger and I have paid for sex in Cebu and so are lot of others in this thread. DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF A JOURNALIST. They don't feel it real. They just observe it from a distance.
He sounds as if prostitution is a sin and we all should live in guilt forever.
Every fucking sad thing in a third world country has to be justified with 1 dollar a day crap.
I am a mongerer and I p4p. I have also lived in the P I off and on for a total of almost 3 years in a comming and going kind of a way. I didn't find webconexxions remarks pathetic at all. In fact I think he was very accurate in most what he stated. And if you think he is a "goody two shoes" for saying it then perhaps you are the pathetic one for not being able to accept reality as it is. I mean it's not going to stop me from p4p and certainly it won't stop you from it either. But for crying out loud don't try and paint a picture that it is not as bad as he says it is for most of these girls because it really is. And pathetic Losers Like you and I take advantage people and the poverty. I mean we can try and take all these different takes on it and justify all we do and say about it, but the reallity is they do it because they have precious little other choice in many cases.
and to top it all..the Editor agrees and wants this article to be posted in one of the distinctions..how sad..im sure..its not jackson but the moderator who has not even contemplated what this means to the very BASIS OF ISG.
Nice rebuttal but the suggestion to post this article in the "Reports Of Distinction" thread is computer generated and has nothing to do with the moderator and/or editor. My comments on this subject will follow.
Web Connect
12-08-07, 00:48
The first few lines itself shows from where he comes...
Guys he has being a journalist all his life not a monger ..they have a different take altogether on what they see...."Do not go with the EMOTIONAL BLACKMAIL he is subjecting you to the plight of women working in Casa and bars in Cebu"
They have to write it this way to get the "ATTENTION" and evoke your softer side of mind.
I'm a monger and i have paid for sex in Cebu and so are lot of others in this thread...DO NOT TAKE THE WORD OF A JOURNALIST...they don't feel it real..they just observe it from a distance..
He could have written about the scene in Cebu..combined with what positive could be made by legalizing, government support and insurance cover..but all he took was his two cent journo brain and club it up with the plight of women, sickness, poverty..those f^^^Cking damm cliche..that refuses to go in this information age..
and to top it all..the Editor agrees and wants this article to be posted in one of the distinctions..how sad..im sure..its not jackson but the moderator who has not even contemplated what this means to the very BASIS OF ISG.
ohh sure there are certain info's he has given about casa..but its shades over his real intention of showing women working in casa look sorry, pityfull, sick a ss women who are controlled by pimps and politicians,,yeah this works..and gets him browny emotional points from the reader..
The standard FXXCKING way to kill a monger with emotional distress looking at a women in casa.
Guys..You wanna know what casa is GO and F UCK the girls..spend time with them and if you really wanna digg deep into their life with YOUR HEART NOT WITH YOUR PEN..You will know the truth..
I have gone with girls from casa and its not that they are living in 7th hell..sure there are problems..but not worse than sweatshops in China and India.
Every girl i went with in Casa were as adventures and cool as any other girl i met..sure they wanna get out of Casa for a better living..BUT ITS NOT THAT>>THEY WILL DIE NOW if they don't get out...some of them will turn out to be mamasans which is a good thing....some of them go back to their home...
NO ONE IS FORCING THEM TO STAY>>THEY ARE FREE TO GO AND COME BACK AS AN WHEN THEY WISH AND DESIRE....Their life is no worse than girl working in a night shit at JollyBee.I have been following your posts since you got to Cebu... and I guess you may need some more time to really know what is going on...
Have you been to Junquera and got out to walk into the shanty town ? The only posts I have read from you are mostly from your experiences in the bars and KTVs.
What Casa's have you been to ? Happy Valley Gate 3 ? Capitol ? Well those are the more established Casas and do get some girls to Manila, Singapore or Japan. But talk to most girls that do go .. never really make any money because they have so much to pay back from being over charged with flights, houses, food and even drugs.
Have you been to any of the other less known casas ? Casas that are more like shabu houses ?
There is a darker world that you may have yet to experience.... You may not agree with everything that write wrote, but once you have been in the Philippines longer. You may see the sun is not alwasys shining for everyone.
Starchild2012
12-08-07, 16:35
I have been following your posts since you got to Cebu... and I guess you may need some more time to really know what is going on...
Have you been to Junquera and got out to walk into the shanty town ? The only posts I have read from you are mostly from your experiences in the bars and KTVs.
What Casa's have you been to ? Happy Valley Gate 3 ? Capitol ? Well those are the more established Casas and do get some girls to Manila, Singapore or Japan. But talk to most girls that do go .. never really make any money because they have so much to pay back from being over charged with flights, houses, food and even drugs.
Have you been to any of the other less known casas ? Casas that are more like shabu houses ?
There is a darker world that you may have yet to experience.... You may not agree with everything that write wrote, but once you have been in the Philippines longer. You may see the sun is not alwasys shining for everyone.
I'm sorry man...I forgot to mention my post was not intended towards you..but to the journalist.
I have being to Hanavalley area 3, and few other places which my taxi driver took me....Its not as bad as the journalist projected it to be..
Trust me...I'm from a third world country and if u ever come to Mumbai kamathipura area which houses nearly 100,000 thousand prostitutes and supposedly the biggest ***** house in whole of Asia ..you will literally puke and curse all Indians the way these women live.
Our society faces the hardcore moral dilemma's as, what to do with prostitution and for worse, keep it under wrap from even debating these issues.
These high bred Indians have banned dance bars in the name of morality and projected India as a high moral society and made the life of girls worse, they are literally begging in the streets and committing suicides in numbers.
And there are not enough journalist back home wanting to exploit the plight of these girls and take it to their advantage for higher circulation...
We had a big debate six months back in Mumbai forum...when one of the journalist exposed a bar were girls were soliciting with customers inspite of the ban from government on dance bars.
Exactly, an year before the same paper criticized the government move to ban dance bars and taking away livelihood of girls working in the bars, cos that was the hot topic at that time.
These journos have no feelings but one intention anywhere on planet and thats just gaining more circulation.
These papers have lots of petition against killing dogs or some drainage issues..they post full page ads on how dogs are being killed mercilessly by municipal authorities..but when it comes to legalizing prostitution..they just shut it off.
And we should not be surprised that the article was written by a Filipino .
Why blame the mafia, cops and criminals for exploiting women in these areas..when our society itself is inept to confront these hardcore issues.
We need more empowerment of women...we don't need P4P to be banned..just legalize it, pass the laws and give them insurance cover..these criminals and mafia will run away from these girls.
The moment Casa's are banned in Cebu, most the girls will beg on the streets or commit suicide.
Atleast, Thai society has some balls to tolerate P4P but not yet legalizing it...still the girls are somewhat free ..
The reason i did not post articles on Casa was, my style of P4P was going down on a bar, watching the show, drinking to loose consciousness and then taking the girl home :)..its the whole routine that i like.
When i went to Casa.....they said they had their first Indian ever and were surprised to see me..i was dead drunk and gave lots of tips to the girls who were curious to see dead drunk guy selecting girls when finding it hard to stand on two feet.
Its just the forceful guilt that kills P4P folks like me and i need my mind to be unconscious to just get rid of the added misery these Journalist write.
Folks..Do not abandon the Casa's or bars..Just because of the heartless societies inept hypocritical moral high ground attitude towards P4P and then some Journos hijacking the sad cause..
If we too stay away from these places due to the forceful guilt enforced upon by the society....These places will soon die taking all women along with it.
Web Connect
12-08-07, 17:44
I'm sorry man...I forgot to mention my post was not intended towards you..but to the journalist.
I have being to Hanavalley area 3, and few other places which my taxi driver took me....Its not as bad as the journalist projected it to be..
And we should not be surprised that the article was written by a Filipino .
Why blame the mafia, cops and criminals for exploiting women in these areas..when our society itself is inept to confront these hardcore issues.
We need more empowerment of women...we don't need P4P to be banned..just legalize it, pass the laws and give them insurance cover..these criminals and mafia will run away from these girls.
The moment Casa's are banned in Cebu, most the girls will beg on the streets or commit suicide.
Atleast, Thai society has some balls to tolerate P4P but not yet legalizing it...still the girls are somewhat free ..
The reason i did not post articles on Casa was, my style of P4P was going down on a bar, watching the show, drinking to loose consciousness and then taking the girl home :)..its the whole routine that i like.
Its just the forceful guilt that kills P4P folks like me and i need my mind to be unconscious to just get rid of the added misery these Journalist write.
Folks..Do not abandon the Casa's or bars..Just because of the heartless societies inept hypocritical moral high ground attitude towards P4P and then some Journos hijacking the sad cause..
If we too stay away from these places due to the forceful guilt enforced upon by the society....These places will soon die taking all women along with it.So then I assume you have been to Junquera and seen exactly what the journalist wrote ? What exactly do you find incorrect ? I disagree with the numbers but those change month to month. Everything else written (IMO) is accurate.
Please don't try to compare India and Thailand, they may also be poor countries but the are NOT predominate Catholic countries. You may not agree with the catholic religion, but it is the thread that holds together the Philippines and gives the people hope.
The Casas do not make their money from walk up customers, they make their money from sending girls to Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong. So you don't have to worry... they are not going anywhere.
The cheap P4P scene is not going anywhere either as long as there is poverty and now even more Shabu. Which is making things a lot more dangerous. Have you ever seen someone on Shabu ? Have you seen a innocent girl from the province and then a year later see the same girl after what Shabu has done.
Do you think Shabu should be made legal also ?
Should Shabu be taxed and regulated ?
I ask this because it is not journalists that are ruining the cheap P4P scene... it is shabu.
Web Connect
12-08-07, 17:51
Thanks for that post WebConexxion. It exposes the underbelly of not just the Philippines but many nations. However the depiction of innocent girls lured to the city is a little dated. Well actually more than a little. Most of the working girls I have spoken with made a conscious decision to enter the 'profession' for a variety of reasons.So I assume you have been to Junquera and those are the girls you have spoke with ? That article was about Junquera, not the Mango bars or girls working in KTVs.
You can not enjoy life or mongering , if you worry about what other people think.
If what your doing does not harm/upset others , do it.
Web Connect
12-08-07, 21:10
X Man,
What I meant was taxi drivers don't like taking people to Honkera simply because they lose the large percentage that they would have added on,had they brought the girl to the customer rather than taking the customer direct to the girl.I disagree... ( IMHO ) most taxi drivers do not like.
Web Connect
12-08-07, 21:15
X Man,
What I meant was taxi drivers don't like taking people to Honkera simply because they lose the large percentage that they would have added on,had they brought the girl to the customer rather than taking the customer direct to the girl.I disagree. (IMHO) most taxi drivers do not like taking people to Junaqura becuase it is dangerous for them. Taxi drivers get robbed there and even shot. Read the newpaper every day and there is alwasys news about a shooting or jeepney being held up by armed robbers in that area.
Taxi drivers will think if you are going there you are a cheap charlie for wanting to go there, so they don't think it is worth the risk for the 5 peso tip.
If a taxi driver is going to go through the trouble of bringing a girl to a customer. That he deserves something for his trouble. But why would anyone want to order a girl sight unseen. If you are too lazy to leave your hotel room. They for sure you can afford to pay for that service.
Been There
12-09-07, 04:23
So I assume you have been to Junquera and those are the girls you have spoke with ? That article was about Junquera, not the Mango bars or girls working in KTVs.Actually no, I have not been to Junquera and only spent a few days in Cebu total but I have spoken with 100's of women all around Philippines and had sex and longer term relationships with many of them,working and not, whilst there, including some from Visayas.
The depiction of poor farmers who sincerely believe their daughter is off to work as a nanny or cultural dancer has been going around for at least a quarter of a century that I know of. Do you think that because they are poor they are really that stupid? In all that time not one girl has made it back to her family to expose the truth? And the remotest barrio has had access to mass media for over 20 years too! I attended a farewell party for a girl who was heading to Japan as a 'cultural dancer.' She came back 18 months later and built a 2 story house. The entire barrio knew she was working as a prostitute there but of course no one said it openly in public. But there were jokes behind closed doors, as I say poor does not equal stupid. That was in 1993 and there have been other girls from that place who after seeing how much house 18 mths 'cultural dancing' could build them, have headed off to Japan too - eyes wide open as to what they will be doing when they get there. One even got really lucky and found a reasonable Japanese guy to marry.
There is no doubt that some girls feel 'forced' into prostitution by their families or through their circumstances, but in my experience they are a minority and the degree of pressure put on them is questionable. Speak to the many girls eking out a living as waitresses or office/factory workers throughout the Philippines about the so-called 'plight' of working girls there and the response invariably is the Tagalog equivalent of "YEAH! Right!!" They are mature enough to realise that ultimately we all have to take responsibility for our own actions and that includes the working girls. I have spent time in regional centres like Bacolod, Butuan, CDO, Puerto Princesa, Dagupan, etc, as well as the tourist destinations like Ermita, Angeles and Puerto and always sampled the local fare. I have never met or slept with a girl in 'forced' prostitution there. Of course many have sad stories but so do the waitresses! More coffee please! If you REALLY believe they are helpless victims then you should be ashamed of yourself for taking advantage. And while I have visited some questionable establishments in various states of inebriation, often with locals, I would never 'do the deed' in a cubicle such as you describe, not in Cebu or anywhere else for that matter. IMHO the degradation cuts both ways.
As to the drug scene - that actually is part of my professional practice here dealing with addicts and their families. And without giving too much away, I was young when I first arrived in Philippines and I have first hand knowledge of Shabu and it's effects. It's nickname 'poor mans cocaine' is reasonably apt and like cigarettes and alcohol it is highly addictive. However it triggers aggression in some people, including me, and I stopped using it at the time mainly for that reason. Pilipino friends warned me I might wake up dead if I wasn't more careful when I was 'high' but I couldn't control it. And of course as with any illicit drug the quality is extremely questionable. I dont think legailising it anywhere is the answer, the only way to tackle these problems is through education and the medical treatment of existing addicts who genuinely wish to change their behaviours. For you guys reading this forum heading to Philippines become informed on the signs to look for that the girl you are considering taking back for some p4p is 'high' or shows signs of agitation or undue restlessness. Addicts are the same everywhere, she may well like you but she probably likes the drugs more and if you give her the opportunity she will depart with your dollars. It is actually reasonably easy to pick them out and using Shabu does not suddenly turn them into demons, it would just increase my level of alertness and if I felt it necessary I would be blunt. NO drug use when she is with me, no carrying drugs if we are together and no drug addict sob story - been there done that.
So I claim no knowledge of Junquera at all except for the excellent reports here on this forum but I can't believe it is so different to elsewhere in the Philippines. Similar to another member who posted in this thread my three years in Philippines was spread over some years, sometimes I'd stay a month and sometimes six or seven months. I think to really understand any place you have to speak the language but particularly so in Philippines. As is common throughout Asia, Pilipino's will tell you what they think you want to hear - in English! You gain a great deal of respect for a sincere attempt to learn even a little Tagalog - hey guys it costs you nothing but a dictionary and some time, and the good news is Tagalog is almost always pronounced as it is written, making memorising words much easier. And you do see a different side of the country if you become fluent.
Another general tip to any chess players reading this forum - many a good experience there for me began with a game of chess, I always carry a small chess set there as chess is like the national game and most Pilipinos play, including some of the ladies! A good ice breaker if you are so inclined. So happy hunting to all, remember people are much the same all over - they want respect and to be treated as equals. Not as victims or as objects to be masturbated into! As some posters here with much more 'worldwide' experience than me have eloquently expressed Pinay ARE hot! Most love sex if they are comfortable with the guy and he treats her right. It's not your technique it's your attitude that will make the difference.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Well, if you're going to make this assertion, please reference at least one report of such crimes. I only read the Cebu newspaper when I'm in Cebu and occasionally read the SUN online, but I don't remember seeing what you have described.
Also, I've been downtown at night and seen plenty of taxis. I've never taken a taxi to pick up ladies though. I imagine it may be a bit unsettling for the drivers to sit there idling while people gather around the car to do what is an illegal business.
Well, if anyone is in Cebu, there is one way to find out. Ask your taxi driver what he thinks about going to Jonquerra.
X
I disagree. (IMHO) most taxi drivers do not like taking people to Junaqura becuase it is dangerous for them. Taxi drivers get robbed there and even shot. Read the newpaper every day and there is alwasys news about a shooting or jeepney being held up by armed robbers in that area.
Taxi drivers will think if you are going there you are a cheap charlie for wanting to go there, so they don't think it is worth the risk for the 5 peso tip.
If a taxi driver is going to go through the trouble of bringing a girl to a customer. That he deserves something for his trouble. But why would anyone want to order a girl sight unseen. If you are too lazy to leave your hotel room. They for sure you can afford to pay for that service.
Yes , over 30yrs of calling in to Jonquerra from time to time , for the fun factor , ie , chaos on arrival in the 'basketball court' area , and not for selecting chicks , and usually when I am inebriated , I found the taxi driver enjoyed the experience just as much as I did. He too thought it was fun , girls and pimps scampering towards the car etc.
I never felt unsafe there , but at night , I did not wander away from my taxi or driver either. Day time you can wander all you like , I consider it relatively safe. As I get older I do not have the patience for the pimps and pestering that goes along with that area , but as for safety , do not fret too much guys , its ok.
It's a little bit of the Philippines everyone should experience , turning up at Jonquerra say 8pm- 11pm in a taxi and experience the interest shown in you and your dollars. Some mal nourished and sad looking girls there though. Spoils the experience some times. Better fun experiences elsewhere.
Nothing ventured , nothing gained. Jonquerra at night is a must see , if only once in your life time.
Web Connect
12-09-07, 20:07
Actually no, I have not been to Junquera
As to the drug scene - that actually is part of my professional practice here dealing with addicts and their families. And without giving too much away, I was young when I first arrived in Philippines and I have first hand knowledge of Shabu and it's effects. It's nickname 'poor mans cocaine' is reasonably apt and like cigarettes and alcohol it is highly addictive. However it triggers aggression in some people, including me, and I stopped using it at the time mainly for that reason. Pilipino friends warned me I might wake up dead if I wasn't more careful when I was 'high' but I couldn't control it. And of course as with any illicit drug the quality is extremely questionable. I dont think legailising it anywhere is the answer, the only way to tackle these problems is through education and the medical treatment of existing addicts who genuinely wish to change their behaviours. For you guys reading this forum heading to Philippines become informed on the signs to look for that the girl you are considering taking back for some p4p is 'high' or shows signs of agitation or undue restlessness. Addicts are the same everywhere, she may well like you but she probably likes the drugs more and if you give her the opportunity she will depart with your dollars. It is actually reasonably easy to pick them out and using Shabu does not suddenly turn them into demons, it would just increase my level of alertness and if I felt it necessary I would be blunt. NO drug use when she is with me, no carrying drugs if we are together and no drug addict sob story - been there done that.
So I claim no knowledge of Junquera at all except for the excellent reports here on this forum but I can't believe it is so different to elsewhere in the Philippines. Similar to another member who posted in this thread my three years in Philippines was spread over some years, sometimes I'd stay a month and sometimes six or seven months. I think to really understand any place you have to speak the language but particularly so in Philippines. As is common throughout Asia, Pilipino's will tell you what they think you want to hear - in English! You gain a great deal of respect for a sincere attempt to learn even a little Tagalog - hey guys it costs you nothing but a dictionary and some time, and the good news is Tagalog is almost always pronounced as it is written, making memorising words much easier. And you do see a different side of the country if you become fluent.That article I posted what about Junquera. So lets not generalize the entire Philippines.
The whole Colon street/ downtown area is much different from the rest of Cebu. Of course you can find other area's in Manila and other big cities.
Shabu is a bigger problem now in the downtown area than it was in 1993. Back in 1993 it was only rugby users. You advice is very good about the drug scene here. If anyone is looking for drugs the downtown Colon area is a good place to look. Right in front of the SunStar building you can find sketchy looking people that can be more than helpful for a small tip.
Learning Taglog is an excellent idea and even better is Bisayan if you plan to spend a lot of time in the downtown Colon area. Less educated people in that area are not even that good in Tagalog. Bisayan is learned at home and spoken by everyone in Junquera.
Web Connect
12-09-07, 20:28
Well, if you're going to make this assertion, please reference at least one report of such crimes. I only read the Cebu newspaper when I'm in Cebu and occasionally read the SUN online, but I don't remember seeing what you have described.
Also, I've been downtown at night and seen plenty of taxis. I've never taken a taxi to pick up ladies though. I imagine it may be a bit unsettling for the drivers to sit there idling while people gather around the car to do what is an illegal business.
Well, if anyone is in Cebu, there is one way to find out. Ask your taxi driver what he thinks about going to Jonquerra.
XYes it is best to ask people in Cebu about the downtown Colon area. Ask pinoys why they don't want to go there and if they are young they will say .. I do not want to be mistaken for Alpha Kappa Rho(Akrho) or Tau Gamma Phi. If they are a bit older ... they will say they don't want to be mistaken by a vigilante. Ask a foreigner living in Cebu and most will say they would rather pay John and Chris or Graham the bar fine.
If you want to go downtown a good place to start is Our Place ( drinking expat bar ), Tina's Darkest and Bottom up. From there you can find some more places with warm San Migs and no air con. Then even have the girls go to City health every time there is a shake down.
Understand that a lot crimes never are reported to the police. If a police report was made it would go something like this....
Question: What did he look like ?
Answer: He was Pinoy.
Question: What color hair did he have ?
Answer: Brown
Question: What color eyes did he have ?
Answer: Brown.
Question: How tall was he ?
Answer: Around 5' 5"
Question: What was he wearing ?
Answer: Hat, T-shirt, Shorts, Sandals.
Police: ok we will make a police sketch and if you want you can give a reward to the person who gives us any info.
Starchild2012
12-09-07, 21:00
So then I assume you have been to Junquera and seen exactly what the journalist wrote ? What exactly do you find incorrect ? I disagree with the numbers but those change month to month. Everything else written (IMO) is accurate.
Please don't try to compare India and Thailand, they may also be poor countries but the are NOT predominate Catholic countries. You may not agree with the catholic religion, but it is the thread that holds together the Philippines and gives the people hope.
The Casas do not make their money from walk up customers, they make their money from sending girls to Japan, Singapore, Hong Kong. So you don't have to worry... they are not going anywhere.
The cheap P4P scene is not going anywhere either as long as there is poverty and now even more Shabu. Which is making things a lot more dangerous. Have you ever seen someone on Shabu ? Have you seen a innocent girl from the province and then a year later see the same girl after what Shabu has done.
Do you think Shabu should be made legal also ?
Should Shabu be taxed and regulated ?
I ask this because it is not journalists that are ruining the cheap P4P scene... it is shabu.
The journalist is just beating the old drum which has being dead for years now>> the pathetic condition of prostitutes around the world and topping that comparing everything in their life with 1 dollar.
The condition that he descirbes has not changed or will change unless some government regualation is brought into...
However, the place i went had Air Con and a big hall with mirror and sofa around. was too drunk to notice other things :)
The way he writes, he is comparing with the standards of western country or like KFF clubs in germany to be the same as in Cebu.
Nobody will come to Cebu if we have same price as in the west to make high end brothels.
Tell me, if catholic churches are the threads that binds philliphines..why haven't they come up with any solution for prostitution for the last 100 years now.
The churches are supposed to take the misery away right? so why not in this case..why is the society always turns around when it comes to prostitution.
Its not only Christianity, but hindus, buddhist, muslims all turn their eye when it comes to empowering and uplifting of women.
Regarding Shabu, there is no co-relation at all...we know even rich people who are not bounded with anything take drugs in philiphines and around the world.
It would then justify marijuana consuption in US cos they are not bounded by anything so they are pleased to do everything they want and compared to the GDP of US to Philiphines, Marijuana is cheaper or equal to Shabu.
Starchild2012
12-09-07, 21:11
Actually no, I have not been to Junquera and only spent a few days in Cebu total but I have spoken with 100's of women all around Philippines and had sex and longer term relationships with many of them,working and not, whilst there, including some from Visayas.
The depiction of poor farmers who sincerely believe their daughter is off to work as a nanny or cultural dancer has been going around for at least a quarter of a century that I know of. Do you think that because they are poor they are really that stupid? In all that time not one girl has made it back to her family to expose the truth? And the remotest barrio has had access to mass media for over 20 years too! I attended a farewell party for a girl who was heading to Japan as a 'cultural dancer.' She came back 18 months later and built a 2 story house. The entire barrio knew she was working as a prostitute there but of course no one said it openly in public. But there were jokes behind closed doors, as I say poor does not equal stupid. That was in 1993 and there have been other girls from that place who after seeing how much house 18 mths 'cultural dancing' could build them, have headed off to Japan too - eyes wide open as to what they will be doing when they get there. One even got really lucky and found a reasonable Japanese guy to marry.
There is no doubt that some girls feel 'forced' into prostitution by their families or through their circumstances, but in my experience they are a minority and the degree of pressure put on them is questionable. Speak to the many girls eking out a living as waitresses or office/factory workers throughout the Philippines about the so-called 'plight' of working girls there and the response invariably is the Tagalog equivalent of "YEAH! Right!!" They are mature enough to realise that ultimately we all have to take responsibility for our own actions and that includes the working girls. I have spent time in regional centres like Bacolod, Butuan, CDO, Puerto Princesa, Dagupan, etc, as well as the tourist destinations like Ermita, Angeles and Puerto and always sampled the local fare. I have never met or slept with a girl in 'forced' prostitution there. Of course many have sad stories but so do the waitresses! More coffee please! If you REALLY believe they are helpless victims then you should be ashamed of yourself for taking advantage. And while I have visited some questionable establishments in various states of inebriation, often with locals, I would never 'do the deed' in a cubicle such as you describe, not in Cebu or anywhere else for that matter. IMHO the degradation cuts both ways.
As to the drug scene - that actually is part of my professional practice here dealing with addicts and their families. And without giving too much away, I was young when I first arrived in Philippines and I have first hand knowledge of Shabu and it's effects. It's nickname 'poor mans cocaine' is reasonably apt and like cigarettes and alcohol it is highly addictive. However it triggers aggression in some people, including me, and I stopped using it at the time mainly for that reason. Pilipino friends warned me I might wake up dead if I wasn't more careful when I was 'high' but I couldn't control it. And of course as with any illicit drug the quality is extremely questionable. I dont think legailising it anywhere is the answer, the only way to tackle these problems is through education and the medical treatment of existing addicts who genuinely wish to change their behaviours. For you guys reading this forum heading to Philippines become informed on the signs to look for that the girl you are considering taking back for some p4p is 'high' or shows signs of agitation or undue restlessness. Addicts are the same everywhere, she may well like you but she probably likes the drugs more and if you give her the opportunity she will depart with your dollars. It is actually reasonably easy to pick them out and using Shabu does not suddenly turn them into demons, it would just increase my level of alertness and if I felt it necessary I would be blunt. NO drug use when she is with me, no carrying drugs if we are together and no drug addict sob story - been there done that.
So I claim no knowledge of Junquera at all except for the excellent reports here on this forum but I can't believe it is so different to elsewhere in the Philippines. Similar to another member who posted in this thread my three years in Philippines was spread over some years, sometimes I'd stay a month and sometimes six or seven months. I think to really understand any place you have to speak the language but particularly so in Philippines. As is common throughout Asia, Pilipino's will tell you what they think you want to hear - in English! You gain a great deal of respect for a sincere attempt to learn even a little Tagalog - hey guys it costs you nothing but a dictionary and some time, and the good news is Tagalog is almost always pronounced as it is written, making memorising words much easier. And you do see a different side of the country if you become fluent.
Another general tip to any chess players reading this forum - many a good experience there for me began with a game of chess, I always carry a small chess set there as chess is like the national game and most Pilipinos play, including some of the ladies! A good ice breaker if you are so inclined. So happy hunting to all, remember people are much the same all over - they want respect and to be treated as equals. Not as victims or as objects to be masturbated into! As some posters here with much more 'worldwide' experience than me have eloquently expressed Pinay ARE hot! Most love sex if they are comfortable with the guy and he treats her right. It's not your technique it's your attitude that will make the difference.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Man..You really Being There in Cebu :)...Din't know..Chess is a past time in the philiphines. This time would definately pack some words of tagalog as you described the benifits. :D
Web Connect
12-10-07, 00:34
However, the place i went had Air Con and a big hall with mirror and sofa around. was too drunk to notice other things :)
Tell me, if catholic churches are the threads that binds philliphines..why haven't they come up with any solution for prostitution for the last 100 years now.
The churches are supposed to take the misery away right? so why not in this case..why is the society always turns around when it comes to prostitution.
Regarding Shabu, there is no co-relation at all...we know even rich people who are not bounded with anything take drugs in philiphines and around the world.
It would then justify marijuana consuption in US cos they are not bounded by anything so they are pleased to do everything they want and compared to the GDP of US to Philiphines, Marijuana is cheaper or equal to Shabu.
The Casa you describe sounds like Gate 3 (big hall with mirror and sofa around ). What other Casas have you been to, to be able to say that article and the way the journalist describe them is false. If you where to drunk to remember... then how can you say the article is not accurate.
The reason why I brought up the Catholic church is because you tried to compare the Philippines to Thailand and India. If you have'nt noticed it is already prostitution is regulated in the RP. Being devout Catholics is what makes the girls so honest and sweet. Compared the heartless Thai girls.
Shabu has a lot to do with the P4P scene because that is what the girls in Junquera are working for. They are not trying to put rice on their families table or pay for their brother school tuition. Try to keep a shabu girl over night... and she won't sleep at all. She will be sitting there waiting for you to pay her so she can leave to get a hit of shabu.
Read what Sxxxx said... he was there 30 years ago... he has seen the girls..
Many-mal nourished and sad looking girls there though. Spoils the experience some times. Better fun experiences elsewhere.If you don't think Shabu is changing the scene in downtown. They you are blind. MJ is a totally different drug. Shabu is hardcore. Have do you tried it yet? How can you compare MJ with Shabu?
I read your posts. And I still think you need to spend more time in Cebu to know the culture. If you really plan to live there for sure you should be taking Bisyan lessons. NOT tagalog.
How many yuppies have you picked up at Paseo and how many Koreans have you picked up at Pump. I ask that because a few months ago you where telling everyone how easy it was!
Gentleman, the Jonquerra thread is getting old real quick. If you have more details /info to add, that would be great. If you're just arguing about whether it is paradise or a hellhole...well, I for one have heard enough.
Someone mentioned the bar "somewhere else". It's a good starting point if you want a few beers, some food, some info...
This area is dirty and poor. Some people associate that with danger. Well, if you look afraid, the dogs will chase you.
There is the dragon dufus who once wrote that downtown Davao was dangerous. Some poeple are afraid of poverty. If you are, give the Philippines a skip.
X
Starchild2012
12-10-07, 13:20
The Casa you describe sounds like Gate 3 (big hall with mirror and sofa around ). What other Casas have you been to, to be able to say that article and the way the journalist describe them is false. If you where to drunk to remember... then how can you say the article is not accurate.
The reason why I brought up the Catholic church is because you tried to compare the Philippines to Thailand and India. If you have'nt noticed it is already prostitution is regulated in the RP. Being devout Catholics is what makes the girls so honest and sweet. Compared the heartless Thai girls.
Shabu has a lot to do with the P4P scene because that is what the girls in Junquera are working for. They are not trying to put rice on their families table or pay for their brother school tuition. Try to keep a shabu girl over night... and she won't sleep at all. She will be sitting there waiting for you to pay her so she can leave to get a hit of shabu.
Read what Sxxxx said... he was there 30 years ago... he has seen the girls..
If you don't think Shabu is changing the scene in downtown. They you are blind. MJ is a totally different drug. Shabu is hardcore. Have do you tried it yet? How can you compare MJ with Shabu?
I read your posts. And I still think you need to spend more time in Cebu to know the culture. If you really plan to live there for sure you should be taking Bisyan lessons. NOT tagalog.
How many yuppies have you picked up at Paseo and how many Koreans have you picked up at Pump. I ask that because a few months ago you where telling everyone how easy it was!
Everything has to be measured up to the western standard....if it does not fit in with western lifestyle just change it...
I'm coming from India and probably you are from west..so we have different take on the standard of living.
I bet you haven't being to India and visited kamathipura..the largest w hore house in asia and also Dharavi..the biggest slum in Asia with a population of 3 million equivalent to the population of entire new zealand.
If you visit these places...you will know Cebu for people coming from my place is a paradise..
For you, it may be very hard to digest, as you expect to pay cheap p **ssy and also want greater standard of living like west..
And what on earth is picking up girls in paseo has to do with casa ..perhaps you are taking the discussion too personally ...i had already mentioned how my experience was in paseo and how i picked up girls but did not felt like going all the way..
Though i faced prejudice from Filipinos at first as im Indian..i was able to adapt quickly and melt in.
It is all relative...Whatever i experienced in Cebu is a bonus for me...though we may experience it differently due to our background
Can you give precise directions to the bb court. I believe I was there a long time ago, just want to check my memory.
Thanks.
Yes , over 30yrs of calling in to Jonquerra from time to time , for the fun factor , ie , chaos on arrival in the 'basketball court' area , and not for selecting chicks , and usually when I am inebriated , I found the taxi driver enjoyed the experience just as much as I did. He too thought it was fun , girls and pimps scampering towards the car etc.
I never felt unsafe there , but at night , I did not wander away from my taxi or driver either. Day time you can wander all you like , I consider it relatively safe. As I get older I do not have the patience for the pimps and pestering that goes along with that area , but as for safety , do not fret too much guys , its ok.
It's a little bit of the Philippines everyone should experience , turning up at Jonquerra say 8pm- 11pm in a taxi and experience the interest shown in you and your dollars. Some mal nourished and sad looking girls there though. Spoils the experience some times. Better fun experiences elsewhere.
Nothing ventured , nothing gained. Jonquerra at night is a must see , if only once in your life time.
Web Connect
12-10-07, 18:34
I'm coming from India and probably you are from west..so we have different take on the standard of living.
For you, it may be very hard to digest, as you expect to pay cheap p **ssy and also want greater standard of living like west..
And what on earth is picking up girls in paseo has to do with casa ..perhaps you are taking the discussion too personally ...i had already mentioned how my experience was in paseo and how i picked up girls but did not felt like going all the way.The only thing western about me is my education and business experience. I am not from the west. I am not sure how you came up with that assumption.
I could care less about the cheap pussy. That is not the reason why I would be in Cebu. If you ever sober up you will realize Cebu has some of the best beaches in the Philippines and also snorkel and diving. The pussy is just a bonus but is not the main reason. When I am in Cebu I am home. I am Phamily.
The reason why I brought up your experience at Paseo is because this is an information website. It should provide other members good information. Your information is misleading to a new reader.
You agree that you fu*ked up your job and that information is very valuable to someone who would like to come to Cebu to work or start a business. Your expertise is what readers should NOT do when it comes to working in Cebu.
Being in Cebu and spending most of your time drunk does not make you an expert in Bisayan culture. But you seem to think because you are from a poor county like India you know it.
If you want to live in Cebu and make it your home. Get out see the province, the real beauty is 3 feet under the water. Learn the basics of Bisayan. Go to St. Nino. Eat some balut and lechon baboy. It won't matter the color of your skin, your accent or what country you are from. You will start to understand what it is to be Phoreigner/Phamily rather than Foreigner/Family.
I would assume if you feel you are party of the monger community in Cebu than I guess I will be seeing you all the Christmas parties. If you are not. See you at Sinalog. Hopefully someday we can have a basic conversation in Bisyan.
Correct directions , gleaned from another website are as follows , I quote :
"The 'Basketball' entrance in P. Del Rosario Street , almost opposite the 'Sun Star' newspaper office , or alternatively , opposite Super Mario Bakeshop c/r P. Cui & P Del Rosairo Sts". I have tested those directions and found them to be correct.
You would only need that info if you are walking to the Basketball Court. Taxi drivers know it without directions. If me , I would not walk towards that area after 9pm. Full display of girls 8-9pm anyway.
Even before taxi arrives at actual basketball court , its fun , a circus , young pimps running along with your car calling out 'girls , girls' , lol.
Starchild2012
12-11-07, 10:51
The only thing western about me is my education and business experience. I am not from the west. I am not sure how you came up with that assumption.
I could care less about the cheap pussy. That is not the reason why I would be in Cebu. If you ever sober up you will realize Cebu has some of the best beaches in the Philippines and also snorkel and diving. The pussy is just a bonus but is not the main reason. When I am in Cebu I am home. I am Phamily.
The reason why I brought up your experience at Paseo is because this is an information website. It should provide other members good information. Your information is misleading to a new reader.
You agree that you fu*ked up your job and that information is very valuable to someone who would like to come to Cebu to work or start a business. Your expertise is what readers should NOT do when it comes to working in Cebu.
Being in Cebu and spending most of your time drunk does not make you an expert in Bisayan culture. But you seem to think because you are from a poor county like India you know it.
If you want to live in Cebu and make it your home. Get out see the province, the real beauty is 3 feet under the water. Learn the basics of Bisayan. Go to St. Nino. Eat some balut and lechon baboy. It won't matter the color of your skin, your accent or what country you are from. You will start to understand what it is to be Phoreigner/Phamily rather than Foreigner/Family.
I would assume if you feel you are party of the monger community in Cebu than I guess I will be seeing you all the Christmas parties. If you are not. See you at Sinalog. Hopefully someday we can have a basic conversation in Bisyan.
I agree, I have less experience in Cebu but from what i experienced, I just love this place..I mean i mean it..so when i read the tone of journalist as the same as back home in India...i thought not here too bro hijacking the plight.
Being a roman catholic myself, when i went to St. Nino, i had a completely different experience, it has a completely different aura in itself like the whole of Philippines....being a spiritual enthusiast myself, i was astonished with the level of spirituality folks have here and to realize these guys have higher spiritual level than us.
I had never expected nor read anywhere about the spiritual aspect of Filipinos other than mongering and even if i do now Google search not much comes up on the spiritual front.
I was shaken on many different levels here as Im also from the school of tantra, sex & spirituality is ok in persuasion of one goals. but what i experienced here, was way higher than what i did back home in the name of spirituality.
As this is not an appropriate forum for this type of discussion, i had kept it out however, i will add, India has Yoga, Buddha, mantra, meditation and countless gurus as it's origin as the basis for spirituality but one will miss the true path and be incomplete without knowing the nector of spirituality that runs in the Philippines.
I'm planning hard to come before X'mas..hopefully will be there very soon.
Last month I had my first ever trip to Cebu. I've got to say I was a bit disapointed overall. Perhaps because I've just visited Pattaya too, it bares poor comparison.
I was shocked at how shabby Cebu city was. The sidewalks and roads are in a shocking state of disrepair, there're whole familys of beggars around, poor street lighting and transportation. To me, not tourist-friendly at all. The beaches and resorts I visited weren't too great either.
I also found it a bit expensive compared with Thailand. I stayed at the Dynasty Tourist Inn, which cost about 800 pesos per night, then the Richmond Plaza which cost 1500 including a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140)-poor breakfast. Hotels in Pattaya of the same standard would cost half the price, maybe a third.
The areas with girls seem to be crawling with good-for-nothing pimps. It also seems to be general practice here to pay for a girl's services beforehand, which is never a good idea.
Despite the above I still had a good time. On the plus side, the place is crawling with attractive women. They're mostly very friendly and slim, and if you like spinners, you're spoiled for choice. I found the bars on Mango avenue to be fun, and the girls inside very attractive. I also enjoyed walking around the Ayala Centre, and got a lot of eye contact there.
Anyway, I'll now post some more specific reports and photos of my Cebu experiences.
On my first night, a stopped at a cluster of go-go bars on Mango Avenue. These included Eric the Red, BG Bar and Viking. I ended up chatting with this gal. 19 years old with overflowing cleavage. A mama came over and told me it would cost 1700 pesos (paid in advance) to take her for the night, so I jumped at that.
Even though my hotel was about 5 minutes stroll away, we had to get a taxi as it's so dark and dodgy outside. Once back at the hotel, we got down to business. Man, she was gorgeous when she got her kit off. What a rack! We made love, showered, then made love again. As we lay snuggling in bed she said she loved me. Oh yeah? Then she said she had to leave, as she needed to accompany her cousin, whose first day it was at the bar, back home.
Can't say I belived her, but away she went.
I went back to the Sisters bar the next night. It had some smoking hot girls in there, but some rich local guy was inside (with his 2 bodyguards) buying endless drinks for all the girls, so they couldn't care less about me.
I asked the Mama how much it was for take out, and she said 1800 Pesos. When I remarked that it was cheeper at the bars next door, she chided me that I shouldn't care about a measly 100 pesos if I like a girl. That was me told.
I left and went to BG Bar. A lady hit on me, and was quite clingy without hastling me for drinks. She was a mum, but in good nick. I took her back to my hotel for 1700, where we had a few rounds in the sack. She stayed the night, and we had a pretty tasteless breakfast together
A taxi driver told me that local guys get girls dirt-cheap from around the University of San Carlos. I later found out this is on Del Rosario street. I went to check the area out one day. I was approached numerous times by pimps, who quoted between 500 to 1500 for young "students".
One night I went drinking in Silva Dollar. It's quite a good go-go bar, but that night most of the girls there were most obviously mums. Not the prettiest of stomachs, thighs and breasts on display. The mama said to take a girl from there, you pay the bar 700, then later give the girl 1000. A better arangement than the Mango Avenue bars, but there were no ladies that could tempt me. I decided to wander down Osmena Boulevard to go near the university and try one of the "Students".
There were a few ladies standing around with pimps beside them, and lots of groups of young guys on the lookout. A pimp aproached me. He quoted 500 pesos, for 2 hours with a girl, including a short time hotel. Hard to belive, but I agreed. He asked me to follow him to a nearby bording house stocked with many girls. I didn't fancy following him anywhere, so told him he'd have to bring some to me in the street. He asked what I wanted, and I replied 'young and busty'
5 minutes later, he returned with 1 girl, plus another pimp. He asked for 600 pesos. Mesmerisedby the gal's cleavage, I handed it over. The other pimp asked for a tip. No chance.
The gal took my hand and lead me to a grotty short-time place a few minutes walk away. It was a right dump. She told me to pay 100 for the hotel. I didn't bother arguing with her. We got a hideous room, and she proceeded to take off her pants and lie back on the bed.
She was completely passive, doing nothing but lie there. I got a rubber out, put it on and then had my wicked way. As soon as I shot my muck, she began to dress. 2 hours, her pimp had said. More like 10 minutes.
Afterwards, as I was dressing, she asked me for 50 pesos for the condom. I said it was my condom, why should I pay. House rules, she countered.
I gave her the money and we left. She went her way, and I rushed back to my hotel for a thorough hot shower. Bit of a rip-off, all in all, but no harm done.
I've attached a map, and have highlighted the University area if anyone's interested.
I went to the cluster of Norwegian owned bars on Mango Avenue, and went to the downstairs Viking bar. This place is huge compared with it's neighbouring bars. It has lots of pool tables and dozens of young wenches. I got chatting to a curvy barmaid, and found out that they are available for takeaway, but for 2700, rather than 1700 for the non-waitress girls.
I spotted a statuesque lady with huge jugs, but she was with a customer. I kept looking at her in the hope she'd become free.
I was then hit on by the young lady in the pics. She had a pierced tongue, and I asked, as I always do, why she has it. She answered that it is good for BJs. I've never tried that, I lied.
So, away we went. She was true to her word.
However, in the morning, I woke up with the customery stiffy. She was half awake, so I started to cuddle her. Suddenly, she darted out of bed, saying she was late for her monthly health check. At 8 in the morning! She started to get dressed, showing no concern for my throbbing todger. What a bumer!
She left, but still had time to ask for a tip.
She didn't get one, as I was not best pleased.
The next night I had a few drinks in Eric the Red. A Mama I hadn't met before started to try selling me one of her gals. How much? She said 2000. When I answered that I'd paid 1700 in the other bars with the same owner, she said, ok, she'd give me a special price of 1700. Thanks a lot. None of her gals took my fancy, so I went back to Vikings.
A waitress there soon asked me to remind her which girl I'd taken out the previous night, but I let her know I wasn't interested.
Never the less, the girl soon found me, all smiles, and tried her best to get me to take her out again. I was polite but cool, and she soon got the message and left.
The amazon with the big boobs I'd been staring at the night before spotted me and came over. I bought her a drink and we had a nice chat. She told me she likes Korean customers best. Why, I asked. She explained they aren't big downstairs, are quick and clean, and pay well. In other words, an easy job.
Lucky for me, there were no Koreans around that night to distract her, so I took her to my hotel sharpish.
She had quite fabulous tits. She gave me a super BJ, then road me like a Jockey in the home strait.
Wonderful.
It seems most of the bars I went to on Mango Avenue are similar in price. Beers cost 50 - 60, around 100 for a whisky, and 150 or 160 for a ladydrink.
I never got to try the places opposite the Viking bars (Dimples etc) but I was told they are more expensive.
I noticed that quite a lot of the bars had ladies who are mums. There was an abundance of stretch marks, saggy breasts and fat tummies. I'm not used to this, as it's rare to see this in the go go bars of Thailand and Hong Kong that I've been to. Still, there were plenty of perfect bodies too, I'm not complaining.
I've attached some daylight pics of these bars, to give an idea of what the area looks like.
Scribe,
First Viking is great.
I do not know in detail what has been said about Paseo before. Forgive me , for I do not have time to go back and find out.
However , I did read something a while back posted by well meaning BL and I disagreed with it at the time but said nothing. Brief mention of it again recently by someone else prompts me to speak up , and clarify its monger status.
Lads , believe me , Paseo is a Filipino hangout , not a pick up joint. Tread wearily , boyfriends , brothers etc abound everywhere.
Whilst at Paseo on one occasion , I observed three monger types call on seperate occasions , and each leave within 30 mins empty handed. Better to leave empty handed than a mouth full of fist , lol.
Thanks for the entertaining opinions/reports. Especially the naive newbie ones , lol.
Your posts are either negative or sarcastic, usually both. You have a lot of experience in PI, but you always keep the best details for yourself.
Well, thats my take...
I do not know in detail what has been said about Paseo before. Forgive me , for I do not have time to go back and find out.
However , I did read something a while back posted by well meaning BL and I disagreed with it at the time but said nothing. Brief mention of it again recently by someone else prompts me to speak up , and clarify its monger status.
Lads , believe me , Paseo is a Filipino hangout , not a pick up joint. Tread wearily , boyfriends , brothers etc abound everywhere.
Whilst at Paseo on one occasion , I observed three monger types call on seperate occasions , and each leave within 30 mins empty handed. Better to leave empty handed than a mouth full of fist , lol.
Thanks for the entertaining opinions/reports. Especially the naive newbie ones , lol.
Scribe:
Very interesting takes on different opportunities for mongers.
Good Job!
Scribe, thanks for the great posts mate! Keep it up...
It seems most of the bars I went to on Mango Avenue are similar in price. Beers cost 50 - 60, around 100 for a whisky, and 150 or 160 for a ladydrink.
I never got to try the places opposite the Viking bars (Dimples etc) but I was told they are more expensive.
I noticed that quite a lot of the bars had ladies who are mums. There was an abundance of stretch marks, saggy breasts and fat tummies. I'm not used to this, as it's rare to see this in the go go bars of Thailand and Hong Kong that I've been to. Still, there were plenty of perfect bodies too, I'm not complaining.
I've attached some daylight pics of these bars, to give an idea of what the area looks like.
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Has anyone met this one? Looks good and slim for a 29yr old....tells me she spent last weekend on Bohol. WHich one of you dogs been humping this gal on Alona beach?
X Man
Web Connect
12-14-07, 01:39
I do not know in detail what has been said about Paseo before. Forgive me , for I do not have time to go back and find out.
However , I did read something a while back posted by well meaning BL and I disagreed with it at the time but said nothing. Brief mention of it again recently by someone else prompts me to speak up , and clarify its monger status.
Lads , believe me , Paseo is a Filipino hangout , not a pick up joint. Tread wearily , boyfriends , brothers etc abound everywhere.
Whilst at Paseo on one occasion , I observed three monger types call on seperate occasions , and each leave within 30 mins empty handed. Better to leave empty handed than a mouth full of fist , lol.
Thanks for the entertaining opinions/reports. Especially the naive newbie ones , lol.I also agree that the thread by Born Loser was very not good information on Paseo.
There are plenty of opportunities to pick girls there, they are just waiting to have you.
The girls move around while the boys drink :), they would come with you, may be later but don't wanna see if their BF's are around.
Just be patience in an hour or soo you will know which girl or group of girls are single and wanna get picked up :DI also did'nt post because I figured maybe this guy was better looking than I am, richer and had more game. But I didnt say anything at the time and was waiting for more reports.
I go to Paseo only to drink and for concerts. If you do pick up a girl, you will pretty much be with her and only her. You will not be able to bounce from table to table like a butterfly. The only way you will be able to see other girls is if you are cheating on her. Pinays are going to put up with it.
I think the problem is a lot of guys who visit the Philippines think just because prostitution is tolerated and girls are easy to rent, every girl in the Philippines is easy. Cebu is a booming call center / outsourcing town. Girls are able to get jobs and make money with very minimal education. They are the new YUPPIES. Some make decent money. They can buy their own drinks, they have nice clothing. They can afford to go out on weekends. For the most part they are not going to be showing up at Paseo with a guy who is 40 years older, like you would see at Sunflower. And it is doubtful they are going to leave with a complete stranger.
But this was an old post from Born Loser 5, when he first arrived in Cebu. Since then he has done his penance and now that I know he has been to St. Nino... he is alright in my book. ( even being an indian )
Web Connect
12-14-07, 01:49
well, if you're going to make this assertion, please reference at least one report of such crimes. i only read the cebu newspaper when i'm in cebu and occasionally read the sun online, but i don't remember seeing what you have described.
this was in the sunstar today.
crime volume in cebu city dropped
the police regional office (pro) 7 has reported a drop in the number of crimes recorded from january to november this year, compared to the same period in 2006.
senior supt. mariano natuel told the regional peace and order council (rpoc) during its meeting wednesday that the number of crimes reported as of november was 3,380 crimes fewer than last year’s figures.
from january to november this year, the police recorded 8,268 crimes, from 11,648 in the same period last year.
of the 8,268 crimes reported in the first 11 months of 2007, 5,329 were index crimes, while 2,939 were non-index.
index crimes are those punishable by the revised penal code, while non-index crimes are those punishable under special laws, such as illegal gambling and illegal possession of firearms.
cebu city still has the highest number of crimes recorded, with 1,802. but that’s 968 crimes fewer than in the same period last year.
cebu province has the second highest number of crimes in the region, with 1,911, or 904 cases fewer than last year’s.
bohol province recorded 833 crimes (38 fewer than last year), negros oriental has 423 (110 fewer than last year), mandaue city has 321 (198 fewer than last year) and siquijor recorded 29 crimes (10 fewer than last year).
theft was the most common crime reported this year, with 1,857, followed by physical injuries, which numbered 1,828. last year’s figures were higher by 778 and 886, respectively.
the other common crimes recorded so far in 2007 were robbery (861), murder (437) homicide (195) and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (151).
the report did not state possible reasons for the drop in recorded crimes
it is good to hear that crime is down... but those numbers are still high for such a small town.
the other common crimes recorded so far in 2007 were robbery (861), murder (437) homicide (195) and [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) (151).
how do those numbers compare with a city you live in ? and what is the population ratio ?
i believe most crimes do not get reported, so the numbers are much higher.
Web Connect
12-14-07, 02:01
First Viking Back in March this girls family lost everything they had when their house burned down in Barangay Mantu-yong, Mandaue City. It was one of the biggest fires in Mandaue history. Damage has so far been estimated at P6.8 million. The fire left over a thousand families homeless. All the famalies are now living behind the vacent lot next to the CICC.
Not that anyone cares, but I figured I would just give you some personal info on the girl. If anyone talks to her.. You can talk to her about it. She will be suprised how you know.
Scribe,
First Viking is great.
Yeah, she's a looker all right. She's got a kid, but her body's in very good shape despite that. She was good in bed too, but her rushing off in the morning the way she did, with me so obviously expecting a final root, was a major let down.
I agree with webconnexion regarding the ladies of Cebu that they are not all easy. There seems to be an assumption that because the Philippines is a 3rd world country that all of the women there would fall at the feet of any foreigner, of course this is not the case.
However, I have to disagree about the comment that you can get a good job easily without qualifications in Cebu. This is so far wide of the mark it is untrue! There are several call centres in Cebu and yes they pay well, but you need a degree to get in. Just to answer a phone!
Some filipinas do have nice clothes and can afford drinks, unfortunately this will be largely down to them having an overseas worker in the family that sends money back or that they are in fact not Filipino but Japanese or Korean.
Starchild2012
12-15-07, 12:44
I also agree that the thread by Born Loser was very not good information on Paseo.
I also did'nt post because I figured maybe this guy was better looking than I am, richer and had more game. But I didnt say anything at the time and was waiting for more reports.
I go to Paseo only to drink and for concerts. If you do pick up a girl, you will pretty much be with her and only her. You will not be able to bounce from table to table like a butterfly. The only way you will be able to see other girls is if you are cheating on her. Pinays are going to put up with it.
I think the problem is a lot of guys who visit the Philippines think just because prostitution is tolerated and girls are easy to rent, every girl in the Philippines is easy. Cebu is a booming call center / outsourcing town. Girls are able to get jobs and make money with very minimal education. They are the new YUPPIES. Some make decent money. They can buy their own drinks, they have nice clothing. They can afford to go out on weekends. For the most part they are not going to be showing up at Paseo with a guy who is 40 years older, like you would see at Sunflower. And it is doubtful they are going to leave with a complete stranger.
But this was an old post from Born Loser 5, when he first arrived in Cebu. Since then he has done his penance and now that I know he has been to St. Nino... he is alright in my book. ( even being an indian )
Ohhh Boy...Since, Paseo has become mystery of sorts and some folks need baby step guidance to find a way in...
Here is the HARDCORE, SURE way to get laid in Paseo.
Go to FatZoe's bar in Paseo, meet the fat lady over the counter, she is extra friendly and accommodative..order a drink and chat with her..explain your situation and how you are new to the place and need a company..She knows many many girls who are regular in Paseo and also some girls working in bars who just hang out in Paseo.
She is not a Mamasan, so be tactical how you want to approach....No one wants any bar to be exclusive pick up joint and draw extra attention...
She will introduce you to girls who hang out regularly in Paseo.....I Just got hold of her the other way around..when the girl i met while dancing introduce me to her..
As i said again and again and again..you don't have to think in Philippines to pick up girls..Just chill out, go with the flow,
Some dudes came over..curies that im Indian and they have grudge against 5-6% money lending business that most Indians operate here....after explaining them in detail..that Indian system do not consider high any business or trade which tries to preserve bodies of any kind...Any work that one does to survive is considered low in Indian system of Hierarchy & caste and money lenders are the lowest of all..yet the system is tolerant and accommodate everyone. Either i made them mad or confused with what i said but it worked :)
While going on dance with those dudes..i met with girls..which came over to our table and got along.
I have seen countless number of times..guys hitting on girls and guys hitting on guys..the problem is you cannot be friendly for long...either you are GAY or Straight in Paseo...If you hang out with guys you are Gay or at least you have to speak upfront if you are gay or not..
The other flip side is...If you take the help of her...You have to be exclusive to her..She will spot you in Paseo the next time you go and really feel pissed if you sit on any other bar..as i said she is extra friendly..true to the Filipino culture
If you are regular and get to know any bar dudes..they will show you around and help in finding a girl...
That is where the fun part is missing..There is no hunting involved ,no tracking down the girl and hitting on her..the above steps are equivalent to getting a girl from a regular strip bar...
Always hunt in pair.....if you get rejected you can go back to your friend re-coup and go back again...I have seen many guys asking guys out and getting rejected and Filipino guys asking girls out and getting rejected...but coming back to their friends table talking it over and going back again..
Paseo...Is TRUE HARDCORE FILIPINOS & their FRIENDLY CULTURE AT ITS BEST...Sunflower, Pump and all the lady bars are owned exclusive for tourist and foreigners..but if you want unadulterated fun..Go to Paseo
Whatever i mentioned is just COMMON SENSE and its what anyone would do in detail to get going...
Its just the things i picked up while on 4 -5 trips to Paseo
By the way...You don't need to be young, good looking, rich or have games to get going in Paseo...you just need to have some balls...
Web Connect
12-16-07, 00:24
I agree with webconnexion regarding the ladies of Cebu that they are not all easy. There seems to be an assumption that because the Philippines is a 3rd world country that all of the women there would fall at the feet of any foreigner, of course this is not the case.
However, I have to disagree about the comment that you can get a good job easily without qualifications in Cebu. This is so far wide of the mark it is untrue! There are several call centres in Cebu and yes they pay well, but you need a degree to get in. Just to answer a phone!
Some filipinas do have nice clothes and can afford drinks, unfortunately this will be largely down to them having an overseas worker in the family that sends money back or that they are in fact not Filipino but Japanese or Korean.Even if some guys do find it easy to get a non bar girl... the only way you will be able to go out with other girls is if you are cheating on her. Non Bar girls will not put up with a cheater.
Ok.. the 7 call centers you talk about want a degree... .the other 70+ do not alwasys. I own a call center and I could care less about the degree. I base it on how well they comprehend the English language.
The cost of clothing is not that expensive if you know where to shop. There are inexpensive places for them to buy in the Carbon market area. So the girls working in call centers can afford the new "local" fashions. I am not talking about the real high end western fashions. But the knocks off are affordable.
Web Connect
12-16-07, 00:39
By the way...You don't need to be young, good looking, rich or have games to get going in Paseo...you just need to have some balls...Ok, and how many girls did you pick and and play hide the salami with?
How long did it take?
How much did it wind up costing you?
I think if you are older... you will feel out of place at Paseo. Here is how I rate on how well you will fit in at Peseo.
Age 18 - 28 ( ***** )
Age 28 - 38 ( **** )
Age 38 - 48 ( *** )
Age 48 - 58 ( ** )
Age 58 - 68 ( * )
If you are over the age of 38 .. you will have a better chance and in my opinion, more fun at Sunflower. Sunflower does have some free lancers. Paseo is NOT a freelancer place. Paseo is a place where mostly call center employees go to drink. If anyone remembers the old Mango Square Mall bars... it is the same... but with more security.
Oh to have balls , lol.
You do not need balls or courage to go to Paseo but you do need to be aware of the local lads sensitivities when you invade one of their social/hunting spots.
Some filipino guys do not like us foreigners snatching their girls , and if they are drunk , there is always the possibility of trouble. Never been in such trouble myself , cause I am aware of the guys sensitivities.
Then there are the girls. Some would not like to leave Paseo with a foreigner for fear of being branded a prostitute. Some brothers/cousins whatever , prefer their sister whatever not to talk to foreigners too , for the same reason.
To save your face , local lads face and the girls , discretion is the better part of valour , not balls.
Last time I was at Paseo , I scored an attractive girl by discreetly passing my printed cell phone number to her. I was more than three times her age. We met couple of days later. The sting in the tail was , she brought her girlfriend along who was better looking , and she did not mind me switching to her girlfriend. Lovely sociable people , Filipino's.
Yes , there would be a tiny number of hookers there and yes I saw bakla's/bayuts (trannies) there too. But folks with little experience of the Philippines , reading about Paseo on these pages , should understand , Paseo is not a straight forward pick up joint.
6-4 , 2-6 , 7-6 (9-7)
For me , that's enough on Paseo. Anyone try Liza's Sea Fun Pub at Mandaue ?
Season greetings , ya'll !
Starchild2012
12-17-07, 00:34
Ok, and how many girls did you pick and and play hide the salami with?
How long did it take?
How much did it wind up costing you?
I think if you are older... you will feel out of place at Paseo. Here is how I rate on how well you will fit in at Peseo.
Age 18 - 28 ( ***** )
Age 28 - 38 ( **** )
Age 38 - 48 ( *** )
Age 48 - 58 ( ** )
Age 58 - 68 ( * )
If you are over the age of 38 .. you will have a better chance and in my opinion, more fun at Sunflower. Sunflower does have some free lancers. Paseo is NOT a freelancer place. Paseo is a place where mostly call center employees go to drink. If anyone remembers the old Mango Square Mall bars... it is the same... but with more security.
I agree...the more young you are, the more you blend in and feel more courage to go and ask a girl out.
Otherwise, better to form a group and go to Paseo...as always when you come back after dancing you should have someone to hold on to your chair..else remain standing for the whole night :)
Web Connect
12-17-07, 03:29
...as always when you come back after dancing you should have someone to hold on to your chair..else remain standing for the whole night :)Just tip and buy a lot of drinks and the bar will not let anyone take your table.
If I a plan to go out to any of the local drinking holes, I alwasys call ahead. They reseave me a table and will keep it all night for me. Even if the place is packed with standing room only there will alwasys be a table waiting. They will also provide me with a waiter and security guard if needed.
It is all about TIPS. ( To Insure Proper Service )
First of all, this debate has gotten so far removed, that I had no idea what people were chatting about. Apparently it is Paseo - some sort of disco.
I guess I wasn't paying much attention, but webx caught my attention with his "reservation" style. On one hand, I hate people who make a reservation and then never show up. What's with that. Nevertheless...
1) Where is Paseo and what is the phone number?
2) How much do you tip to get these services?
X
Just tip and buy a lot of drinks and the bar will not let anyone take your table.
If I a plan to go out to any of the local drinking holes, I alwasys call ahead. They reseave me a table and will keep it all night for me. Even if the place is packed with standing room only there will alwasys be a table waiting. They will also provide me with a waiter and security guard if needed.
It is all about TIPS. ( To Insure Proper Service )
I'll probably be in Cebu by the time you read this. If my phone and simm still work, 91 5320 8078.
Just a beer is fine, or if someone wants to be a Jonquerra wingman...
X
Introduced this year, Cebu Pacific Air offers direct flights between Singapore and Mactan-Cebu which then on-flies to Davao. The cost is just SGD$69 (US$47) for a near 4 hour flight. But the price excludes taxes, insurances and fuel surcharges which can more than double the cost, but still cheap!
This direct flight leaves the Budget terminal in Singapore just after midnight (daily except Mon and Fri) arriving Cebu about 4. 00am, a rather barren airport at that hour. The flight continues to Davao arriving at a more reasonable 6. 00am.
The direct flight from Cebu to Singapore leaves daily (ex Thu and Sun) at 7. 45pm arriving Singapore 11. 25pm and costing from 1, 999 pesos ($US47).
Cebu Pacific also has direct flights, five days a week, to and from Hong Kong from 1, 499 pesos.
In addition Cebu Pacific offers indirect international flights ex Manila or Clark to Bangkok, Guangzhou, Jakarta, Kuala Lumpur, Macau, Shanghai, Singapore and Taipei, each for less than 1, 999 pesos –less than $US50 (but excluding taxes, insurances and fuel surcharges).
These are "budget" services. Do not expect the full business or first class treatment, but you can purchase your peanuts, noodles and drinks! I have found the services to be reliable and pleasantly informal. Tuesday to Thursday travel is often cheaper than other days.
Other budget airlines use other airports. Tiger Air flies daily to and from Singapore from Clark (alongside Angeles City). Air Asia flies to and from Malaysian cities Kota Kinabalu and Kuala Lumpur from Clark. Jet Star flies to and from Singapore from Manila’s Ninoy Aquino for as little as $US79.
Some promo special prices can be ridiculously low. Currently there is Tiger Air fare of $0. 00 for some flights between Singapore and Clark, plus tax/insurance/fuel surcharge of SGD$70!
KongKing
Thanks for that and your later post Iron Duke.
Was that a Mercury pharmacy in Cebu City?
Can you recall the price?
Yes, Mercury Drug in Cebu City (Fuente-Osmena Rotunda branch to be exact).
P2460 for 4 x 50mg tablets.
Web Connect
12-19-07, 15:01
I guess I wasn't paying much attention, but webx caught my attention with his "reservation" style. On one hand, I hate people who make a reservation and then never show up. What's with that. Nevertheless...
1) Where is Paseo and what is the phone number?
2) How much do you tip to get these services?
XEven if I don't show up I will still pay them or have paid them enough in the past to cover their loses. I have no problem spending and buying drinks for who ever is in shouting distance.
1) Go there and talk to the bar manager who is in charge of the exact table you want to sit at. Every bar has their own tables.
2) I round up my bill to the nearest P1000. I give the manager P1000, waiter P1000, Security P1000, and depending how drunk I am, I give what ever I have in my pocket to the hang arounds in the parking lot for watching my truck.
Filipinos have amazing memories. If you are cheap they are going to remember, if you tip BIG. They are going to remember even more.
There is a fine line between being generous and being flash. If people go around tipping everyone 1000 it will fuck it up for everyone else!
Any english guys on this site? Want to know if there is anywhere in Cebu that shows football/cricket etc?
Haven’t been there for a while but there is a somewhat classy bar called Badger Bar which prides itself with sports coverage on a large screen.
Manager at time was a Brit , since moved on. Owner is either Brit or Australian , not sure.
Highlight is an actual Badger in a glass case.
Location : Tell taxi , "Gaisano Country Mall" , and before he turns left into Gaisano tell him to keep going straight ahead to Badger Bar on right hand side. Chances are driver will not know it. He will need your guidance.
About 200mtrs past Gaisano on the right hand side is Badger. Get taxi driver to slow down , otherwise you could miss it. Its on the corner of a small street , right hand side. Sign on wall above. Better to locate day time first. Difficult enough day time.
My understanding is , owner is on the premises managing it now , could be wrong. Havent been there since Brit Mngr left. Seek owner/manager out and query sports coverage. I am sure he will oblige.
Yes , those tips mentioned below are over the top for my money , but to each his own. On my last visit to Paseo I tipped the bar boy P50 , he smiled and sincerely wished me a safe journey. I was leaving the next day. As I departed he said "come again".
Naturally Filipinos like tips , they depend on them so much. But they are more interested in how you , the foreigner , conduct yourself , in my opinion. Basic manners , nice friendly behaviour and modest tips , does the trick every time.
Once you have tipped P1000 at a place , you can not tip less the next time. Loss of face for all concerned. No one likes a pay cut. But from a P50 start , anything is possible.
i do not know in detail what has been said about paseo before. forgive me , for i do not have time to go back and find out.
however , i did read something a while back posted by well meaning bl and i disagreed with it at the time but said nothing. brief mention of it again recently by someone else prompts me to speak up , and clarify its monger status.
lads , believe me , paseo is a filipino hangout , not a pick up joint. tread wearily , boyfriends , brothers etc abound everywhere.
whilst at paseo on one occasion , i observed three monger types call on seperate occasions , and each leave within 30 mins empty handed. better to leave empty handed than a mouth full of fist , lol.
thanks for the entertaining opinions/reports. especially the naive newbie ones , lol.
goody girls there. i don;t think any p4p. mostly untouchables, many hotties w/boyfriends nearby. good, cheap food and beer. the music is not real loud, but ok. any cabbie knows how to get there. i took an all-nighter girl there for some food and beer in between sexsessions b4 going back to the hotel. she knew people there, like straight up yuppie couples and ditched me until they left. she took me to the chilly hill top with a nice view of the city lights (and cold sms) taking a road over that way. very nice people running all these deceent independent food court establishments at paseo with everything from buffalo wings to grilled cheese, and the ususal pinoy grub. cheap sms. it is not far from the p4p bars. i was the only round eye in sight that night. if the cops (many hanging there) suspect somebody is wacked on drugs they will arrest and [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) test you and you are in big trouble. don't expect bangkok or jakarta style club action there. kind of a family place, and i was there on a weekend during rainy season. she was pleased i didn't make a scene and blow her cover. only a fool would start trouble there, but the girls are flirtatious and friendly and i could see a drunk whiteboy getting beat up for putting his paws on the wrong girl.
Web Connect
12-21-07, 09:41
If people go around tipping everyone 1000 it will fuck it up for everyone else!
Any english guys on this site? Want to know if there is anywhere in Cebu that shows football/cricket etc?How do you figure it will fu*k it up?
Just because some people fly first class on their flights does'nt mean no one will fly coach anymore.
Just because some people stay at the Shangri La/ Plantation Bay does'nt mean no one will stay at less known inexpensive resorts.
Just because some people sit ring side at a Manny Pacquiao fight does'nt mean the nose bleeds won't sell out.
Lonestar and BlackHole both have satellite dishes and have a TV on at all times. If you ask them to change the channel I sure they will. Unless UFC is playing .
Web Connect
12-21-07, 09:55
Yes , those tips mentioned below are over the top for my money , but to each his own.
Naturally Filipinos like tips , they depend on them so much. But they are more interested in how you , the foreigner , conduct yourself , in my opinion. Basic manners , nice friendly behaviour and modest tips , does the trick every time.
Once you have tipped P1000 at a place , you can not tip less the next time. Loss of face for all concerned. No one likes a pay cut. But from a P50 start , anything is possible.I grew up and was taught the philosophy of the more you give out. The more you get back. It seems to have proved true for me.
I worked hard in my life but was in the right place at the right time to make my money. The internet was a great place to be in the 90's, and grew bigger into the 00's. The web is still the best place to make money. Charge in USD or Euro's and spend it the same anywhere in the world.
You are correct that is does'nt matter how much it is. But how you give the tip. It can be anything 1 peso, 5 peso, 10 peso, 20 peso. It means a lot to a Pinoy.
I often read how people visiting seem to go out of there way or is almost a competition on how not to tip. So it is the same when you read about people over tipping. You also read about people under tipping.
How many times have you read that someone here did'nt tip. And was so proud of it.
this place is a must stop for anybody who happens to be in the area. billed as the "las vegas" of cebu, it is located in the mandaue reclamation area adjacent to the new cebu international convention center and has been open since febuary '07.
talking with one of the german owners, he has some lofty goals for this complex which only consists of 2 bars at the moment. he envisions an "edsa" type entertainment center which would house several of the best bars in the philippines.
the two bars are called "bounty" and "egypt". the latter is a cavernous space with a high ceiling and balcony. the friday night i went, i counted over 30 dancers all of which were young and of high quality and some spoke good english. they were playing mostly rock & roll oldies through a great sounding pa system for a mostly western clientele. the drink selection is extensive with ld starting at p185 up to p250. bf is p950 + tip (suggested tip is p2000+)
only took a peek at the nautical themed "bounty" next door which is smaller and more intimate, complete with a pool table. if everything remains the same at ibc, it is only a matter of time before it will be the place to go in cebu.
i.m.o its a couple of nice bars in the middle of no where with average girls and drink prices that are way over priced. more bang for your buck at mango or lisa'a bar. just my thoughts only.
this place is a must stop for anybody who happens to be in the area. billed as the "las vegas" of cebu, it is located in the mandaue reclamation area adjacent to the new cebu international convention center and has been open since febuary '07.
talking with one of the german owners, he has some lofty goals for this complex which only consists of 2 bars at the moment. he envisions an "edsa" type entertainment center which would house several of the best bars in the philippines.
the two bars are called "bounty" and "egypt". the latter is a cavernous space with a high ceiling and balcony. the friday night i went, i counted over 30 dancers all of which were young and of high quality and some spoke good english. they were playing mostly rock & roll oldies through a great sounding pa system for a mostly western clientele. the drink selection is extensive with ld starting at p185 up to p250. bf is p950 + tip (suggested tip is p2000+)
only took a peek at the nautical themed "bounty" next door which is smaller and more intimate, complete with a pool table. if everything remains the same at ibc, it is only a matter of time before it will be the place to go in cebu.
And Kahlil Gibran says :
"You give but little when you give of your possessions. It is when you give of yourself that you truly give".
With the girls , I give of myself , but at the end of the day , they still want my money , lol.
Merry Christmas ya'll.
Thanks for the tip Sxxxx. I did try Badger earlier in the year but arrived at 9.30pm and they were closing up! So I went to the Waterfront casino instead
Web Connect
12-24-07, 00:47
And Kahlil Gibran says :
"You give but little when you give of your possessions. It is when you give of yourself that you truly give".
With the girls , I give of myself , but at the end of the day , they still want my money , lol.
Merry Christmas ya'll.Kahlil Gibran also wrote 'Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it so that the other half may reach you'. Is it possible the quote you posted was his meaningless half. LOL
Kahlil Gibran also wrote 'Half of what I say is meaningless, but I say it so that the other half may reach you'. Is it possible the quote you posted was his meaningless half. LOL
Glad to see you have read Kahlil , where he says in the other half :
"The trick is , not to splash the cash and not to be mean , but to strike a compromise in between".
Bottom line is , it's your money , do what you want with it. Happy mongering fella's. It's the killing season.
Girls need that hard cash during and immediately after xmas/new year season more than at any other time. Lucky you , for being there right now. Time to move in for the kill , lol.
Web Connect
12-27-07, 07:56
Girls need that hard cash during and immediately after xmas/new year season more than at any other time. Lucky you , for being there right now. Time to move in for the kill , lol.You would have done better before the Holiday season. This is actually the worst time to monger. Most of all the girls go back to their province to spend the holidays with their family. There are so many more mongers becuase I guess most have proper jobs and may be able to get some time off of work.
I spent last New Years in AC with some friends. That was a mistake. A lot less girls, a lot more mongers.
A lot of the hot girls who have been getting money sent to them during the rest of the year do not need to work during the holidays. If the guy plans his vacation this time of year, he is going to spend it with her. The malls are packed right now with mongers and their girls.
...... Most of all the girls go back to their province to spend the holidays with their family.
I spent last New Years in AC with some friends. That was a mistake. A lot less girls, a lot more mongers .....
Unfortunately I was in my own little world when posting before. I was thinking of the girls that I target , ones not employed in the sex trade. So Angeles City girls are not relevant in my case.
Yes the sex trade girls are a different kettle of fish around Xmas/New Year period. Forgive me fella's , was commenting on how Xmas/New Year is for me and like minded lads who toil and connive a bit harder to get the regular girls.
Regular girls who are residents of Cebu City , need money for family , more than ever , during this important xmas/new year season. Anyway I have found these girls are more susceptible to overtures during this period. You need a different approach of course , and be prepared for embarrassing knock backs or worse , lol.
Yes , I do end up giving them money whatever , so you could say they are informally trading sex for money if you like. I have my reasons for preferring this type of girl.
Will let others continue on with this subject , if they wish. Will now have a break from ISG for a while. Happy New Year ya'll.
Don Roberts
12-28-07, 09:38
I just got back from Xmas in Camotes with the family- I left Camotes 8AM, arrived in Mactan 3 hours later- running 9-10 knots; 31.3 knots total distance-
No major problems- baling a lot of water- from a bad propeller shaft seal- Minor cooling system leak, steering system total bust up; but we have a tiller for backup- Small stuff- what you expect in a 20 year old boat, or truck or whatever... Once it's all dialled in, It should be a little faster, & a fun, reliable ride. It needs a different propeller, I think, as I am using the propeller that came with the original motor in the boat, & the new motor is more powerful & has a higher idle RPM. We are not opening the throttle up all the way until we fix the other stuff.
The Sea was dead calm; we ran into a heavy rain downpour just off Mactan Island
I'm trying to get a small tender to take us & our stuff out to the boat- &/or a small outboard motor-
I'm working on a larger boat on Camotes- it pretty much needs everything, but it should carry more stuff & be faster if I ever finish it.
Regards to all & the Very Best of the season!!
I hope to head back to Camotes January 4, for a few days.
Now, like all good sailors I am off to hit the bars with my sweety in tow--I favor Viking, but given my advanced age & general decrepitude, the new layout has me a little confused & disoriented
Wally Perrier
12-28-07, 17:25
Cherry blossom C00826575
Has anyone met this one? Looks good and slim for a 29yr old....tells me she spent last weekend on Bohol. WHich one of you dogs been humping this gal on Alona beach?
X ManI chatted with her also, she tells me she loves me very much, how is with you?
Web Connect
12-29-07, 04:34
Yes the sex trade girls are a different kettle of fish around Xmas/New Year period. Forgive me fella's , was commenting on how Xmas/New Year is for me and like minded lads who toil and connive a bit harder to get the regular girls.
Regular girls who are residents of Cebu City , need money for family , more than ever , during this important xmas/new year season. Anyway I have found these girls are more susceptible to overtures during this period.What other weeks or months are you comparing your finding on?
Can anyone that lives in Cebu 12 months out of the year confirm this?
I myself don't see any regular Filipina getting motivated to hide the salami with some stranger for money just because it is the holidays. I myself don't find anyone doing much of anything during the holidays other than spending time with their family and relaxing.
If you think Pinays in general are in more in a work mode during the xmas/new year season ... you should explain your theory to all the companies who shut down during this week because either all their employees are in the province... or there is documented stats there is less productivity over all during the holiday season.
Unless you are using some other techniques we don't know about ... like riding around in a Jeepney with FREE CANDY painted on the side... or dropping some roofies in Noche Buena drinks.
Web Connect
12-29-07, 04:37
I favor Viking, but given my advanced age & general decrepitude, the new layout has me a little confused & disorientedI am pissed becuase when they redid the bar they took away one of the best secret VIPS areas in the city.
RIP Viking's VIP area :(
Don Roberts
12-29-07, 11:23
Yes, some of my happiest 1/2 hours have been spent in VIP rooms around Asia- trying to bang some cutie of the hour in one of those little plastic chairs that often won't hold the weight of your average porriner, while trying not to touch the black greasy floor. This is in the native bars. In the more upmarket places catering to the kano/tourist trade, the experience was often enriched by reclining on little couches covered in red velveteen & body fluids, & with availabe KTV.
A series of police raids forced the closure of most of these wonderful sleazy little places, & although I miss the immediacy of the experience (important to an old guy like me whose Viagra fuelled hard-on might not survive to Queensland) & the convenience of discovering that I have a starfish right away so I can make another selection from the bar out front.
The closure has probably saved me from a few loathsome diseases, though.
Several cuties in Viking last night, although the mamasan told me that 9 girls(out of 40) had already been barfined by 10 PM.
this place is a must stop for anybody who happens to be in the area. billed as the "las vegas" of cebu, it is located in the mandaue reclamation area adjacent to the new cebu international convention center and has been open since febuary '07.
talking with one of the german owners, he has some lofty goals for this complex which only consists of 2 bars at the moment. he envisions an "edsa" type entertainment center which would house several of the best bars in the philippines.
the two bars are called "bounty" and "egypt". the latter is a cavernous space with a high ceiling and balcony. the friday night i went, i counted over 30 dancers all of which were young and of high quality and some spoke good english. they were playing mostly rock & roll oldies through a great sounding pa system for a mostly western clientele. the drink selection is extensive with ld starting at p185 up to p250. bf is p950 + tip (suggested tip is p2000+)
only took a peek at the nautical themed "bounty" next door which is smaller and more intimate, complete with a pool table. if everything remains the same at ibc, it is only a matter of time before it will be the place to go in cebu.i tend to agree, over priced and away from the action. i was quoted 3000ps for bar fine. in between mango and arena i suppose. couple of tasty students but suspect not as much fun as lone star or lisa's at half the price.
Daring Mood
01-06-08, 12:12
Guys
Heading back to Cebu in two weeks time for a five night stay.
Was there two years ago and recall finding budget / mid-range priced hotel accomodation grotty / antiquated and expensive at best.
Would like to stay in a hotel that is clean, with internet/wi-fi access and and a bathroom that has decent drainage. All the reviews on asiarooms.com are mixed, so I turn to you guys for advice.
US$30 per night.
Cheers
Daring Mood
Daring Mood
01-06-08, 12:30
I would not recommend a hotel downtown, but if you want sleeze central check out the Mercedes Hotel. There is also a new place downtown which I've heard good things about. I can't remember the name, but I'll look it up when I get home and can access my home computer.
X Man
X-Man, can you remember the name of the "new place" hotel?
TIA
Daring Moood
Actually, it was in the earlier post I gave about hotels. Asian something...
I'll try to find it later, but I'm sure it was in the hotel cut and paste I gave back in December.
I went there about two weeks ago and was disappointed. The lobby was on an upper floor (which may be good if you can bypass the floor, but I had trouble finding the lobby) and the staff was unhelpful. I asked to view a room and they seemed less than enthusiastic. I just said "thanks anyway" and walked out. Unpleasant staff could mean the guy before you was a dick, or could mean bad management. I was just checking for future reference and since they were unhelpfuf, I walked. If you really need downtown...check them out. Does anyone have a Mercedes review?
I will say that strolling the downtown streets from 6 to 8rush hour attracts a lot of smiles.
X man
X-Man, can you remember the name of the "new place" hotel?
TIA
Daring Moood
Where is this (lisa'a bar)?
Thank you.
I.M.O its a couple of nice bars in the middle of no where with average girls and drink prices that are way over priced. More bang for your buck at mango or lisa'a bar. Just my thoughts only.
Where is this (lisa'a bar)?
Thank you.
Its in Mandaue !
its called something like Lisa's by the sea !
I asked ISG guys before if they had info on this one. Since then have got info from a friend. Always nice to have a p4p place in ones pocket for emergencies.
Here is info friend supplied. Have yet to check it out personally.
Liza's Sea Fun Pub , Manpark Road , Del Pilar Street , Guizo , Mandaue City. Phone 344.229. Or cellphone owner Liza : 0916 745 5243. Biggest problem with Liza's is finding the place.
Friend suggested getting taxi driver to talk to liza on your cellphone , when driver gets in the general area.
Liza's reportedly has nice decor , ambience and plenty of attractive laid back hostess type girls. Exclusively 1970/80's recorded music played , but not loud. Suit older guys. A beer is not expensive. No pressure from the ladies. Not expensive to bar fine. Word has it , this place is much better than Mango Ave Bars.
Above is friends impression. Let's know your impression after visiting.
Its in Mandaue !
its called something like Lisa's by the sea !
Location: B.B. Cabahug Street, Guizo, Mandaue City.
*Club is not well marked, look for open driveway along a blank wall, with small sign. May need to drive along B.B. Cabahug Street a few times before you find this place.
Vip room available, no cover chargem sofa's down back girls can get real friendly. No dance floor just girls to drink and chat with, yes all gro's ok
I see Porty is mentioning a different street to one my friend supplied. So I queried friend on this , and he said info he gave me was taken direct from calling card Liza gave him.
You'd think Liza would have got it right on her calling card , but then anything is possible when it comes to the Phils.
As friend suggested , ring Liza's when in the area and confirm location.
Desert Don
01-12-08, 06:10
I will be in Cebu on 2/6 to be with special lady. Where is a good romantic hotel in area for Valentine's Day?
Thanks,
Don
More info on budget / length of stay / expected activities required
Beach resorts on Mactan would be one option or better yet that nice Ocean Jet boat ride over to Bohol, or even Dumaguete (possiblity of waterfront rooms with wonderful views at both locations).
Waterfront (which is NOT on the water) has a luxurious feel and nice pool, but I've never been in a room. The place halfway up the mountain that has recently been renovated is probably very nice if you can afford it -- is that Marco Polo?
My choice would be ISIS Hotel on Ahlona beach, Panglao, Bohol.
X
I will be in Cebu on 2/6 to be with special lady. Where is a good romantic hotel in area for Valentine's Day?
Thanks,
Don
Would like to stay in a hotel that is clean, with internet/wi-fi access and and a bathroom that has decent drainage. All the reviews on asiarooms.com are mixed, so I turn to you guys for advice.
There are plenty of nicely priced, clean hotels in the Midtown area but most will only have wireless in the lobby. If you want a few suggestions, PM me.
Where is a good romantic hotel in area for Valentine's Day?X Man is correct in that Marco Polo would be a nice choice, with beautiful views in all directions. Sometimes they have walk-in specials. Have dinner at Topps or poolside at the MP.
Okay, I got it. I can't remember...why do you want to stay downtown? I hope this isn't too late to do you good.
Cebu area code is 032
GV Tower Hotel www.gvhotelgroup.com info@gvhotelgroup.com
416-0000 / 253-6518
Another downtown place
Hotel de Mercedes 253 1105 hoteldemercedes.com
X-Man, can you remember the name of the "new place" hotel?
TIA
Daring Moood
I've been to the PI more than a few times, but last week was my first time in Cebu. More recently I've been using taxi's in Cagayan de Oro (CDO), with little trouble.
In Cebu, during festival week (Sinulog), I had problems with a number of taxis, all involving not using the meter.
Incident 1-3: No meter. Three different taxis downtown at about 10pm refused to use a meter for a trip to Mactan (about 177 pesos). The fourth did. At that time, I saw a lot of taxis passing by carrying passengers and the "available" light on, suggesting they are not on the meter.
Incident 4: The Renegotiation. So one driver says "400 pesos", to take me to Mactan. yaba daba its a long way, I got not gas etc. Ok, so I say 300p, he says 350p, I say 300p, he says "OK". Minutes later, we pick up my GF who is down the street waiting for me, and he starts trying to renegotiate the fare again (we were in front of a crowd of people). The best I can do is swear at him and toss his water bottle at him. Now my GF things I am deranged.
Incident 5: The hidden meter. We get in a cab at a hotel, the valet writes down the taxi number and hands it to me. I see this often in town. Usually I check to see the meter is on, but I forgot this time. We get to our destination, and I look up to see how much I owe. No little red lights visible! I say "where is the meter?". Driver says, "400 pesos". I say, rather loudly, "you mean you didn't turn on your meter?". He reaches up and flips down a panel on his dash board, and there is the meter, it was on all the time. The Ahole had a built-in way to hide it! Maybe he gets the Koreans a lot on that one.
I'll post later about local taxes in Cebu. But the way I see it, as they say, there are over 9,000 islands in the PI, and therefore 8,999 other places you can take your money.
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Key Master
01-25-08, 19:11
I remember also having an issue going to Mactan where driver negotiated a rate. I also had problems finding a taxi back from Mactan. Everywhere else in downtown greater Cebu, the meter wasn't an issue and just turned on.
In Cebu, during festival week (Sinulog), I had problems with a number of taxis, all involving not using the meter.
Sounds like you are very frustrated but from my experiences, taxi drivers in Cebu are reasonable compared to their counterparts in Manila or Angeles. Seems like Sinulog brings out the best in people.
Unless your heading to the airport, most cabbies don't like to drive to Mactan because it takes time to find a fare back, especially from some of the resorts.
If you find a taxi that does not use the meter, get out right away. If the driver tries to rip you off, report him to the taxi company. Thats why the valet gives you the vehicle number, to improve overall service.
Recently I too have seen hidden meters sometimes mounted below the center stack where the ashtry used to be. This opens up the possibility to rip people and should also be reported.
What I do is if I find a honest driver, I get his contact info and call him directly for a ride. These guys can be invaluable at times. You have to remember that most drivers average around 250P for a 12 hour shift and with fuel costs on the rise, it gets harder to eke out a living.
BTW, can we expect a FR from you in the near future?
The same goes for a trip up to the viewpoint called TOPS. But since the hotel reopened half way up the hill, it was wondering if there is an alternative. For example, go to hotel have a drink and then negotiate with one of the hotel taxis.
Key Master -- was was the going rate to the resorts. I think it is less than 150 from airport to midtown area.
X
I remember also having an issue going to Mactan where driver negotiated a rate. I also had problems finding a taxi back from Mactan. Everywhere else in downtown greater Cebu, the meter wasn't an issue and just turned on.
Nightrider1
01-26-08, 19:05
I remember also having an issue going to Mactan where driver negotiated a rate. I also had problems finding a taxi back from Mactan. Everywhere else in downtown greater Cebu, the meter wasn't an issue and just turned on.
In My 9 trips to Phil ( next one will be in 2 weeks) I found the worst taxie drivers to be in Manila. So bad that I no longer land in Manila but fly into Cebu. I ALWAYS ask before entering the taxie " do you use the meter " Any response except a YES I close the door and find another one. I always tip the drivers because I understand they don't have an easy job. Just imagine using your left leg hundreds of times putting that clutch in and out for 12 hours or more in stop and go traffic. I could'nt do it. I found the best taxie drivers in Cagayan de Oro and in Davao. In fact in Davao you have the option of air con and non-air con taxies if your really trying to save your pesos..lol..Davao taxie drivers are the best I think. When I was there in Sept one of them picked up a Korean who would not put out his cigarette when he entered the taxie. The driver took him to a police station instead of his destination and they deported him. I have been told the mayor of Davao is a tuff guy and enforces the non smoking ban there and all other laws. His city is noticeably cleaner than most in the Phil.
Key Master
01-27-08, 00:06
Key Master -- was was the going rate to the resorts. I think it is less than 150 from airport to midtown area.
X
X, I'm not completely sure, but I was coming from where Midtown and Robinson's area and I think he wanted like 250 or 350. That makes sense a little bit because it's probably around 100-150 pesos to airport area anyway. This was over a year and a half ago.
Daring Mood
01-27-08, 00:36
X Man
Thank you for coming back to me on that hotel information. Much appreciated.
All the best
Daring Mood
Daring Mood
01-27-08, 00:53
Mattrick
Thanks for the comment about the wireless... Actually for a city intent on becoming a major global call-centre hub the lack of basic IT infrastructure especially in hotels is astounding. Having wireless in a hotel room, rather than an exotic local delight, is the deciding factor for me nowadays.
Anyway enough ranting
Daring Mood
Visited Davao a few years ago. In my estimation it is a very clean/safe when compared to other cities. The tough guy you are talking about is Mayor Duarte (hope I spelled it right). He is one "tough" guy. Time Magazine actually did an artilce on him about 2 years ago. He can be seen driving around Davao "anytime" day/night night on his Harley. He takes absulutey no shit when it comes to crime.
In My 9 trips to Phil ( next one will be in 2 weeks) I found the worst taxie drivers to be in Manila. So bad that I no longer land in Manila but fly into Cebu. I ALWAYS ask before entering the taxie " do you use the meter " Any response except a YES I close the door and find another one. I always tip the drivers because I understand they don't have an easy job. Just imagine using your left leg hundreds of times putting that clutch in and out for 12 hours or more in stop and go traffic. I could'nt do it. I found the best taxie drivers in Cagayan de Oro and in Davao. In fact in Davao you have the option of air con and non-air con taxies if your really trying to save your pesos..lol..Davao taxie drivers are the best I think. When I was there in Sept one of them picked up a Korean who would not put out his cigarette when he entered the taxie. The driver took him to a police station instead of his destination and they deported him. I have been told the mayor of Davao is a tuff guy and enforces the non smoking ban there and all other laws. His city is noticeably cleaner than most in the Phil.
Desert Don
01-27-08, 22:23
Hi!
Doesn't Cebu Pacific and PAL fly from Manila Int'l airport to Cebu?
Thanks,
Don
Hi!
Doesn't Cebu Pacific and PAL fly from Manila Int'l airport to Cebu?
Thanks,
Don
I have now made contact with DesertDon via pm and clarified this for him.
Desert Don
01-28-08, 00:38
I understand now that PAL has own terminal and goes in and out of there for Int'l and domestic, but just bought ticket to cebu on PAL and it show Manlia Int'l as departure???? Don
You arrive at the international go through customs walk outside to small check box in the middle of the road just outside. they will give you ticket for taxi to go to pal or cebu pacific cos t 150 pesos. or if you fly philippines air same they both have there own terminal for domestic. 1 Tip make sure you have 200 pesos as drivers always oh sorry no change . the ride is only ten minutes away but to far to walk and too hot.
Hope that solves the question.
In cebu only 1 terminal for domestic and international.
Thanks
Porty has some good info, but for a newbies...Manila Airport is a nightmare.
Change money before you exit the airport. I always change enough to get me through the night. US$200 should be more than enough unless you are paying cash for hotel or staying in Makati. If you are newbie you might be buying a used phone ... The airport rates aren't too bad. Hotel rates are terrible. (I travel regularly, so I usually have one day cash, plus phone card...I'm in business as soon as I get off the plane)
There is a taxi office. Don't make the mistake of immediately getting in any line/ queue. You have to buy a prepaid ticket- the prices are clearly posted on the wall. They are about double what you should pay, but not unreasonable by Western standards. ***THese taxis tend to be newer, AC, and in some cities (cebu) they must pass a test to get a "tourist" license. These guys are good for info, so pick their brain and get their card. Ask about day trips to AC or elsewhere. They will start at the high price, but they will bargain.
There are ways to save money, but I wouldn't recommend any for a newbie. You'll have enough to deal with. But, you can go upstairs (sometimes security makes this easy to do, sometimes not) and catch a taxi that has dropped off passengers. Some of them will be happy for the unexpected customer, some will use the meter and some will treat you like the golden goose. Either ask for meter, or bargain for a fee before you get in. Don't be afraid to say "no thanks" and close the door. The taxi directly behind will see you do that and maybe offer a fair price.
You can also walk out the the street, but you need to get away from the airport a bit if you want a taxi to pick you up. The police are right there waiting to ticket any taxi that picks people up in front of the airport.
Should be less than 200 pesos if you do it the hard way.
Going to airport at Manila, is another problem. If you are flying PAL International, make sure the driver understands that. I had one guy try to give me the tour of the city, I set him straight real quick, and then he dropped me off at the wrong terminal. I didn't realize it until too late. He must have been laughing his ass off as he drove away. Whenever possible, I fly into Cebu these days.
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Starchild2012
01-28-08, 18:28
forgive me for my twisted take on taxi and drivers, but i don't understand why so much is being written on getting in and out of a taxi and being charged high, is it really being charged high or is it just male ego or its just visible that you are being conned.
not sure, why people are so bothered to get conned by taxi drivers for 20 to 30% higher than the actual rate and its not that, in every taxi you get in, you are gonna get conned, it is like 1 in every 20 or more trip.
i don't know, but if i look at the way, the government sucks 30% of my hard earned income plus, i pay for 1 million places varies surcharges and octroi from peeing to getting into the bed every f..ing day...that pisses me more than a taxi driver getting better of me.
the very reason, i being able to come to cebu, was not paying those mafia governments who prey on my money and i could not do anything to stop the day light robbery and even if i complain..i would be put into jail.
for every 100 i earn, i have to give 50 to the government mafia one way or the other...why bother, when you come all the way from that and you cry for your peeny being taken away from some folks..who are trying to make a living and atleast they drop u from point a to point b..what has ever, the mafia done to me ever.
it also does not justify, that i should freely distrubute the money to everyone..but it helps to put things in perspective...its ok, if you get conned infront of your eyes once in a while, there are bigger cons happneing to us, every day, that even though we are aware of it, can't do much about it.
i have given up, its time to move on....i just do the usual talking, smile and get in, have a good talk and get out, i have being conned some 3 or 4 times in cebu for around 100 taxi trips on a two month period.. it was some 20 to 30 percent more than the usual trip to my hotel from bar.
if i look at the bigger picture and take these collateral damages into account, my trip was as blissfull as living in heaven with my body in it.
the most you will be ever conned in cebu over a period of time would not be more than 100 to 200 pesos for a 100 taxi trips..its not that every taxi driver will con you...you will find taxi driver that even refuse to take tip and believe it or not...once when i was dead drunk in viking bar at mango avenue..the taxi driver..looking at the state of my condition...dropped me for free.
i was more pissed at the charges for renewal of my visa plus the 500 pesos airport tax at cebu airport..that was the height...if you don't pay..you don't get in..folks that is the biggest con in cebu at the moment
cebu is a blast. i have traveled around the world, and a lot in asia..- i think cebu is as much fun and as rewarding as anywhere in the world.
let me first say that i have read this board and get a lot of tips from members. taxi, hotel, etc. i paid 250p for taxi (not in the queue) from the airport to my hotel at regency towers fuente. if you want a first class hotel, this is not it. they do have a starbucks in the lobby and everyone is friendly. the owner, mr. king is often in the hotel, and just the mention of his name snaps the staff into action. they are a convoluted bunch, but they try hard.
i was here for business as always *wink* and first visited the sm mall on sunday. i have never seen so many people in a mall at one time. not even x-mas in the states. shit, there were girls everywhere..-- girls, women, old, young, pretty, prettier. you name it. and yes, they are all looking at foreign men. so, here's the deal. it's like shooting fish in a barrel. all you have to do is catch their eye and you're in. these girs look, stop, talk, give you their cp number, etc. seriously never seen anything like sunday at sm mall in cebu.
ok, so i was talking to this hot little girl at one of the railings in front of french baker..- she said 18, but. so, while talking, another girl (michelle, 26) looks at me from across the floor and shakes her finger at me w/ a big grin on her face. so i move over to michelle and we have a laugh. talk about the merits of youth vs. experience, etc. ok, she won. we went outside, had a beer and told her that i would spend time w/ her if she would come to my hotel with me for sex later. of course she agreed. we had a bite and another beer and took off. not 10 minutes at the hotel we wer in the sheets. she had a typical killer young filipina body w/ small (milky) tits as she has a 1 yr old..-- small tight ass and a sweet creamy pussy! we fucked, sucked all night. of course, free isn't free..- i gave her some "taxi money" in the morning and she left.
day two. i had been talking some girls up on dia for a few weeks. this hot little 18 yr old (april) wanted to meet. so, ok, i called her the second day. she immediately hopped a bus (2. 5 hrs. from toldeo) se was at my hotel by noon. i had originally told her that i would be w/ a business associate, but forgot to tell her that he couldn't make it at the last minute. surprise. she shows up at my room w/ her cousin (heide). shit! but, turning into lemonade, we went out to lunch, baught some rum. cokes, snacks..-- came back to the room for a party. as i was kissing on april, the cousin comes in and sits next to her. i run my hand up her leg and she doesnt resits. april just keeps on kissing me as heide now has her hand up my pant leg looking for something. in 10 minutes i had both their clothes off and put them both in the sheets. these two 18 yr old goddeses now lay their beautiful brown bodies on my stark white sheets. i could do nothing but start licking and squeezing every part of them. at one point they were both sighing for me to enter them. tough choice, but april got it first..- we both came and heide wanted her turn. they had no trouble going at me like a tag-team wrestling championship. we ended up sleeping intertwined for the next 8 hours. kicked them both out in the morning w/ a 2000p tip each for "taxi".
tired and sore, i have to leave this afternoon to bkk (poor me). there will be more trouble i'm sure..-- some little [CodeWord901] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord901) will have me on fire by the time i reach the airport and i will surely fall in love again.
don't miss cebu. its a mongers paradise.
editor's note: i would suggest that the author or another forum member consider posting a link to this report in the reports of distinction thread. please click here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
i can't really see what your point is. is this just a rant?
are you suggesting just get into taxis, don't bother insisting on meter, and then paying whatever you are asked for? cebu taxis aren't usually a problem, but newbies need to be warned about the mnl taxis.
and we apparently define "con" in different ways. a clearly posted price such as an airport fee, is not a "con". i would agree with you if you said it is too expensive.
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forgive me for my twisted take on taxi and drivers, but i don't understand why so much is being written on getting in and out of a taxi and being charged high, is it really being charged high or is it just male ego or its just visible that you are being conned.
not sure, why people are so bothered to get conned by taxi drivers for 20 to 30% higher than the actual rate and its not that, in every taxi you get in, you are gonna get conned, it is like 1 in every 20 or more trip.
i don't know, but if i look at the way, the government sucks 30% of my hard earned income plus, i pay for 1 million places varies surcharges and octroi from peeing to getting into the bed every f..ing day...that pisses me more than a taxi driver getting better of me.
the very reason, i being able to come to cebu, was not paying those mafia governments who prey on my money and i could not do anything to stop the day light robbery and even if i complain..i would be put into jail.
for every 100 i earn, i have to give 50 to the government mafia one way or the other...why bother, when you come all the way from that and you cry for your peeny being taken away from some folks..who are trying to make a living and atleast they drop u from point a to point b..what has ever, the mafia done to me ever.
it also does not justify, that i should freely distrubute the money to everyone..but it helps to put things in perspective...its ok, if you get conned infront of your eyes once in a while, there are bigger cons happneing to us, every day, that even though we are aware of it, can't do much about it.
i have given up, its time to move on....i just do the usual talking, smile and get in, have a good talk and get out, i have being conned some 3 or 4 times in cebu for around 100 taxi trips on a two month period.. it was some 20 to 30 percent more than the usual trip to my hotel from bar.
if i look at the bigger picture and take these collateral damages into account, my trip was as blissfull as living in heaven with my body in it.
the most you will be ever conned in cebu over a period of time would not be more than 100 to 200 pesos for a 100 taxi trips..its not that every taxi driver will con you...you will find taxi driver that even refuse to take tip and believe it or not...once when i was dead drunk in viking bar at mango avenue..the taxi driver..looking at the state of my condition...dropped me for free.
i was more pissed at the charges for renewal of my visa plus the 500 pesos airport tax at cebu airport..that was the height...if you don't pay..you don't get in..folks that is the biggest con in cebu at the moment
HornyGeorge
01-30-08, 01:04
Cebu taxis are usually pretty willing to use meter even going to the airport. Bargaining with a bit of local dialect helps, as does patience. If first driver insists on fixed fare, wait a minute or two and you'll find another who will not argue about accepting meter. Meter to Fuente area from airport should be no more than 160P. You can avoid the airport surcharge by walking UPSTAIRS and across the street.
PS: If you have time to kill and want a nice meal, walk across the street to the waterfroent Hotel's restaurant. Not like the one in Lahug AKA mini Las Vegas, but WAY better than the other food options at airport. A 5.10 minute walk brings you to a shopping center and cluster of foreign restaurants: the Thai place is good but the Italian one not so great.
forgive me for my twisted take on taxi and drivers, but i don't understand why so much is being written on getting in and out of a taxi and being charged high, is it really being charged high or is it just male ego or its just visible that you are being conned.
not sure, why people are so bothered to get conned by taxi drivers for 20 to 30% higher than the actual rate and its not that, in every taxi you get in, you are gonna get conned, it is like 1 in every 20 or more trip.
i don't know, but if i look at the way, the government sucks 30% of my hard earned income plus, i pay for 1 million places varies surcharges and octroi from peeing to getting into the bed every f. ing day. that pisses me more than a taxi driver getting better of me.
the very reason, i being able to come to cebu, was not paying those mafia governments who prey on my money and i could not do anything to stop the day light robbery and even if i complain. i would be put into jail.
for every 100 i earn, i have to give 50 to the government mafia one way or the other. why bother, when you come all the way from that and you cry for your peeny being taken away from some folks. who are trying to make a living and atleast they drop you from point a to point b. what has ever, the mafia done to me ever.
it also does not justify, that i should freely distrubute the money to everyone. but it helps to put things in perspective. its ok, if you get conned infront of your eyes once in a while, there are bigger cons happneing to us, every day, that even though we are aware of it, can't do much about it.
i have given up, its time to move on. i just do the usual talking, smile and get in, have a good talk and get out, i have being conned some 3 or 4 times in cebu for around 100 taxi trips on a two month period. it was some 20 to 30 percent more than the usual trip to my hotel from bar.
if i look at the bigger picture and take these collateral damages into account, my trip was as blissfull as living in heaven with my body in it.
the most you will be ever conned in cebu over a period of time would not be more than 100 to 200 pesos for a 100 taxi trips. its not that every taxi driver will con you. you will find taxi driver that even refuse to take tip and believe it or not. once when i was dead drunk in viking bar at mango avenue. the taxi driver. looking at the state of my condition. dropped me for free.
i was more pissed at the charges for renewal of my visa plus the 500 pesos airport tax at cebu airport. that was the height. if you don't pay. you don't get in. folks that is the biggest con in cebu at the momentthanks for that, not always 100% sure what your on about, and don't necessarily agree with what you say, but always like reading your posts, for whatever the reason.
you wear your heart on your sleeve. refreshing, and possibly another reason why you are able to make it with the ladies. they pick up on this, and like it.
your showing everyone, including your fellow indian mongers, what can be achieved with a positive mental attitude. referring to mainly previous posts , not your 'taxi' post , lol.
i'll be at paseo soon. if i see an indian with a bevy of girls around him i'll know its bl , lol.
Starchild2012
02-02-08, 18:33
I can't really see what your point is. Is this just a rant?
Are you suggesting just get into taxis, don't bother insisting on meter, and then paying whatever you are asked for? Cebu taxis aren't usually a problem, but newbies need to be warned about the MNL taxis.
And we apparently define "con" in different ways. A clearly posted price such as an airport fee, is not a "con". I would agree with you if you said it is too expensive.
X
I really hope people don't get put off by few negatives in Cebu, if there are any...
i went as wild as i can ......i trolled dead drunk at 2 am without any protection of knife or gun, i took money at 11 PM from ATM and at that time, only people look at you while u take money and you get suspicious..i went to casa and they closed the door behind me..and those guys could have done anything to an Indian tourist..who would care...On couple of occasions, i had to be literally taken off by couple of guys to put me in a taxi...i was that drunk..they could have easily taken my card etc...
I thought the law of averages of getting hurt would catch up with me, but during my two months of stay going ballistic with no sense of care..all i lost was my Job :( and for that i had to come back.
May be i was Lucky or Cebu is just special..i think later is more true, as if i did like that anywhere, either i would end up in a lock up or get in hospital....tell me a place...where you could go around with local girls with no guys abusing you or planning you to beat up.
I hope people just experience Philippines.
Starchild2012
02-02-08, 18:39
Thanks for that, not always 100% sure what your on about, and don't necessarily agree with what you say, but always like reading your posts, for whatever the reason.
You wear your heart on your sleeve. Refreshing, and possibly another reason why you are able to make it with the ladies. They pick up on this, and like it.
Your showing everyone, including your fellow Indian Mongers, what can be achieved with a positive mental attitude. Referring to mainly previous posts , not your 'taxi' post , lol.
I'll be at Paseo soon. If I see an Indian with a bevy of girls around him I'll know its BL , lol.
Good Luck with Paseo mate...Some people, get their adrenaline rush from parachuting from planes or climbing mountain, well for us..being in the bar and feeling the babes and space is the rush :)
add to it..Philippines is like mt. everest of mongering...every monger has to climb it once :D
Born Loser 5,met a guy on the plane last year,cathay pacific transiting through HK en-route to Cebu,he was going to fetch his wife back to UK,his wife met him at the airport and we shared a cab to the marriott.This guy was great fun but a total p**s-head,that night I came back to Marriott with a lady I had met in Robinsons fuente and his wife was sitting alone in the foyer,husband had gone out for a drink.
Next morning my lady friend and I came down for breakfast and the guys wife was STILL there,face puffed and streaked with tears being comforted by her sis and brothers,the UK guy hadnt came back to the hotel.
I met him later that day,he had got totally smashed,went to a few bars bought drinks for EVERYONE,did a runner without paying his bill,had a decent fight with some guys,was taken to a police station and allowed to sleep off the booze,the cops then took him to the hotel and wished him good day.
Cebu is as safe as anywhere else,great city.
Is it upstairs? I don't remember that. I got in an hour late courtesy of PA. I walked around a bit trying to buy a phone card (was unnsuccessful) and ended up in the hotel/casino you mention below. Then, having given up on a phone card, I asked where the taxi stand was and was unnsuccessful with getting that question asked.
I eventually found a taxi and the engine conked out just before the bridge. AHHHH. Eventually, I got my ride, got my card, a hotel room and off to Silver Dollar.
It was closed! The whole gang was at a beach resort for their Christmas shindig. I was in a foul mood by this time! Luckily, I found someone to comfort me later that night - from Exotica of all places.
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Cebu taxis ........You can avoid the airport surcharge by walking UPSTAIRS and across the street.
PS: If you have time to kill and want a nice meal, walk across the street to the waterfroent Hotel's restaurant. Not like the one in Lahug AKA mini Las Vegas, but WAY better than the other food options at airport. A 5.10 minute walk brings you to a shopping center and cluster of foreign restaurants: the Thai place is good but the Italian one not so great.
Key Master
02-03-08, 02:30
Is it upstairs? I don't remember that. I got in an hour late courtesy of PA. I walked around a bit trying to buy a phone card (was unnsuccessful) and ended up in the hotel/casino you mention below. Then, having given up on a phone card, I asked where the taxi stand was and was unnsuccessful with getting that question asked.
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When you exit the airport to the street out front, cross the little street and walk to the right. There is a long outdoor stairway really close by. Walk up it, and right at the top there are a bunch of metered taxis lined up.
Thanks KM, that is exactly the way I remember it.
No reason to go upstairs in the airport, but exit, cross the road, and go up a small flight of stairs. You'll get plenty of people to offer you directions and/or help you carry your bag before that. I usually refuse because then I might feel a twinge of guilt when i refuse their inflated price quote. Also, keeps me in control of my bag... I'm not worried about theft so much, but the hassle of trying to remove it from the trunk of some taxi driver that has adopted me.
And the best advice of all, which has been presented here again and again, and works in much of the 3rd world..... (old timers and visayan speakers need
Ask for meter, he will quote something like 300 pesos, say, "no thanks" and close the door. (If he says 200, see next paragraph) Then do the same for the taxi directly behind, who has most certainly observed this. He is 90% likely to use the meter. If not, repeat process.
Plan b is just to bargain to 200 pesos. I usualy pay meter plus tip, and that usually is 200 pesos.
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When you exit the airport to the street out front, cross the little street and walk to the right. There is a long outdoor stairway really close by. Walk up it, and right at the top there are a bunch of metered taxis lined up.
Cross the road,climb the small flight of stairs to the right,plenty of taxis,jump in one and say simply "Metro dong" (put your meter on mate)Its normally 130 pesos give or take to marriott).
Notanocker
02-03-08, 12:00
This hotel has an attractive looking Internet site (www.cebugardenresort.com) with plenty of photos. It seems to get good to excellent reviews though as always one never knows if some of them are hotel staff using pseudonyms (apologies for the cynicism). Has anyone stayed here, and if so, what were your impressions re location, facilities including the all-important swimming pool, GF and food. I surmise that it lacks a 'beach', and wonder how easy it is to get a metered taxi from it to Cebu city in what I imagine is travelling time of about 40 minutes.
Cebu taxis are usually pretty willing to use meter even going to the airport. Bargaining with a bit of local dialect helps, as does patience. If first driver insists on fixed fare, wait a minute or two and you'll find another who will not argue about accepting meter. Meter to Fuente area from airport should be no more than 160P. You can avoid the airport surcharge by walking UPSTAIRS and across the street.
PS: If you have time to kill and want a nice meal, walk across the street to the waterfroent Hotel's restaurant. Not like the one in Lahug AKA mini Las Vegas, but WAY better than the other food options at airport. A 5.10 minute walk brings you to a shopping center and cluster of foreign restaurants: the Thai place is good but the Italian one not so great.
The girls will text the same drivers and the price starts to steadily go up. The little trollups love to act like high rollers with your money. In my case fares doubled going between Cebu town to the Mactan Hotels comparing arrival day to the 2nd day. I took this girl from the province to Cebu a year ago and after the first night I got a second room and brought girls back from the bars. Her behavior was deplorable. She was passing loads from my sellpone to her friends, and trying to take me on shopping extravaganzas and taking possession of some of my property. This little [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor (but bery fretty) spunkbucket was talking to me like she was Imelda Marcos talking to her yah-yah (maid). A Pinoy guy at the hotel said I was risking my life by doing the 2nd room. She was texting some Joe back in Manila to meet us at the airport. I found this out after wrestling my phone from her little paws and taking it to the guy in the esplanade mall that unlocked it for me. At the airport I got right back in the cab then took a flight to Clark the next day. She was going back without the 6,000pp I fromised. The cabbie was laughing when he heard her shouting at me and I told him the story and told me I'd better not meet up w/her ever again. At the time I was more scared of the slow death I might have gotten from doing her unbagged!!!
Just read your danger report about Ermita, and now this. Pretty negative stuff.
It the post below, you descibe a real btch, but you never explain where you met her? And how is it that she just happened to have the phone number of the taxi driver?
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The girls will text the same drivers and the price starts to steadily go up. The little trollups love to act like high rollers with your money. In my case fares doubled going between Cebu town to the Mactan Hotels comparing arrival day to the 2nd day. I took this girl from the province to Cebu a year ago and after the first night I got a second room and brought girls back from the bars. Her behavior was deplorable. She was passing loads from my sellpone to her friends, and trying to take me on shopping extravaganzas and taking possession of some of my property. This little [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) poor (but bery fretty) spunkbucket was talking to me like she was Imelda Marcos talking to her yah-yah (maid). A Pinoy guy at the hotel said I was risking my life by doing the 2nd room. She was texting some Joe back in Manila to meet us at the airport. I found this out after wrestling my phone from her little paws and taking it to the guy in the esplanade mall that unlocked it for me. At the airport I got right back in the cab then took a flight to Clark the next day. She was going back without the 6,000pp I fromised. The cabbie was laughing when he heard her shouting at me and I told him the story and told me I'd better not meet up w/her ever again. At the time I was more scared of the slow death I might have gotten from doing her unbagged!!!
just read your danger report about ermita, and now this. pretty negative stuff.
it the post below, you descibe a real btch, but you never explain where you met her? and how is it that she just happened to have the phone number of the taxi driver? now bu
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i'm cool with ermita. the japs and koreans run it but i like the restaurants. too bad the mayor shut down baywalk as that was the only thing other than la cafe that would have me go there. to the pinoys i look like some old gangster. they joke and call me joe peche sometimes, although i am fat and way out of shape. i feel safer in most asian cities than i do in miami or nyc. i don't feel safe in ac or pattaya late at night on dark side streets because the groups of wee lads on shabu might knock your teeth out for grins. the girl i took to cebu and her friend were a couple of stray kittens sitting outside near the ermita robinson mall that said they missed the lrt to queson city. they were really broke and didn't know how they could've raised a quick $50 at the la cafe yet! my friend had been going to the peenze since the mid 80's and chatted them up, like he does all the time getting us some non-gros here and there . he is good at spotting and getting new recruits. they looked lost and we offered them some grub. they ate like it was their last meal. we ended up with them for a few days rather than having to hit the la cafe. a couple of very good prospects. they were so cute and green, but 6 months later they both became hard core la cafe ho'ze. again, i was taught to go with the local talent. i made the mistake of taking thai girls to other destinations and they always got flippy with me. this little one got the cabbies cell phone on the way downtown from the airport. i learned that in any asian country to always move on to different drivers and girls. once you get familiar with them they get pushy and/or obnoxious. this goes for thailand, indonesia, the pi, and s. american putas as well. i also learned that with no exception that cell phones get switched off from the moment they are in my employ to the time they walk out the door. i've never been robbed or anything outside the us, but have observed violent acts committed on others. that includes rio, lima and bogata. i'm going back to the pi st. paddy's day. the beers are so cheap and the girls have such a sweet way of talking and they are cool w/gulping the chowder! i enjoy their company more than any other p4p as they are entertaining.
HornyGeorge
02-05-08, 01:14
ANYWHERE you grab a taxi waiting outside a nightclub you are asking to pay well over meter. 200P from downtown to airport includes a generous tip. That is what I wil give if I like the driver and he does not haggle or refuse to use the meter.
At Manila domestic nowadays the police are MUCH more aggressive about protecting passengers from overcharging. Last trip I had a potential troublemaker whom I was just about to tell to start the meter or I would get out when a cop waived at him and said in a stern voice "metro". And the meter was 50Pisos to EDSA and Roxas which is the REAL price unless there is heavy traffic (waiting time adds up).
Also: Airport departure fee is now 200P domestic and 750P international and this is NEVER included in your ticket (unlike many countries).
Someone asked about the Merecedes Hotel in Cebu. It was the least expensive hotel I stayed in in during my 3 weeks in Cebu. The cost was about 7000 peso and was easy to book online. However, the only time I felt uneasy on the trip was when I was walking outside the Mercedes Hotel looking for some fast food, the nicest business place I saw was a huge theater, that turned out to be a porn theater.
I could not get the showere to turn on so I just gave up on it and decided to wash my face in the sink. I turn on the water for the sink and nothing comes out, but all of a sudden the shower was going full blast. (thought I was Punked or Candid camera). So I just took it in stride and was happy to shower.
The Hotel had a good TV with cable but no internet.
You can use the internet in a small cafe that is connected to the hotel lobby, so you never have to leave the hotel. Price was only 15 peso an hour.
The computer I chose alreayd had yahoo messenger running on it, some girl was using it and forgot to sign out. For a few seconds the little devil on my shoulder was screaming for me to have some fun with her friends, but I decided to just leave her a quick note that I had found it open and was nice enough to exit Yahoo messenger for. I was hopeing for a blow job or at least a thank you in return, but got neither. Oh well.
The most important criteria in a hotel for me is security and internet in the room. I ended up returning to the Diplomat Hotel with 4 diffent girls, because of the internet. Cost was 100 peso per an hour, and worked in the 4 diffent rooms I had.When I was not with a girl, I was online setting up dates.
To gaurntee one girl slept with me, I took her to Bohol. It was a good way to get her away from the family and cousins who would constantly be interupupting my game plan.
The cost was dirt cheap, about $15 for the fast ferry, on 2 hour trip.
I got a room in Bohol for about $40, same price as I was paying for the Dipliomat. http://www.boholtropics.com/ Bohol Tropics was a nice place and had a free van to the resort from the ferry port. They also had a free computer and wifi for a laptop in the lobby area. I would take my laptop to make some "business emails" while the girl of the day was resting in the room or watching TV.
I did try 3 times to stay at the Kiwi Lodge/Hotel. The clerk did ask if i was American and stated they were booked. The lady was friendly and I belive that they were truely booked. But I can be naive at times.
I got a room at Eddies, which was priced fair, but I have forgoten the price. They have free wifi in the lobby that I was able to use and also a free computer in the bar for customers to use. If you can get a room close to the lobby, the wifi may work for you. I saw the most white guys in all of Cebu around Eddies. I found out it is withing walking distance to many of the monger bars.I never had time to go to the bars, the ladies I met from CB and FH had consumed all of my time, and the bars were not needed. I plan to visit them on my next trip.
I read that Globe has a new service for WIFI that you can use over most of the Philipines, the only catch is you need to sign up for a year or two. The do recomend a service where you use your cell phone as a modem and pay 10 peso per half hour. Has anyone tried this? Do I have to buy a special cell phone?
If it works, then I can stay at just about any hotel. I like the freedom to move around in case of the pissed off boyfriend/father/brother or the girl stopping by the hotel to just to say "hi"'
Bob of Bowie, Maryland
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I will be in Cebu in a few weeks for my first overseas vacation and I'm looking for information on a good hotel with a large jacuzzi. I am traveling with my family and staying at Plantation Bay, so bringing someone back is not an option. My goal is to barfine someone from Jaguar or Arena, or perhaps a casa, and then take her somewhere nearby to spend maybe 4 or 5 hours before I go back to Plantation Bay. It's possible that I may just go buck-wild and get two or even three girls, since I don't know when I'll ever have this kind of opportunity again,
I've RTFF and done some searches but I didn't come up with anyplace that specifically has a jacuzzi that isn't a massage parlor. Any information you can provide is greatly appreciated, particularly if someone knows of a place with a jacuzzi that fits three or four. Price isn't really an issue. It would be a once in a lifetime splurge.
Thanks
Days Hotel % minutes from airport. on the road from the airport has 4 rooms with a Jucuzzi , Best one is 508 seperate bed room too ! kings size bed Hm No i would say jumbo size had 3 girls and me sleep just normal its that big.
have to take room for whole day but should be able to reserve it for around 5000 for the night. I stayed 5 weeks in the room special rate 3 years ago only 2400. Knew the manager, the conserigae Arther is still there he is cool ok Just tell him you will need extra towels for the night he will arrange it as with 2 girls and u suggest at least 12 towels, just give tip ok. Easy fit yourself and 2 girls in the jacuzzi, hot too is the water, only suggestion go to save more ( S/Market) get some good bubble bath ok. flodded the floor so many times with bubbles everywhere.
Arena is very good but also costly maybe around 8000 to 10,000 , use to get 5000 but presents for mamasun.
Jagure , hm well years ago great now second class to Arena. Also so heavy on drinks for the girls every 30 minutes will hit you up. So pushy is the club now, they lost my business.The is a club called the white castle at the bottom of the street to days hotel. You will see it when you leave the airport it looks like a bit of a castle painted white. look for days hotel sign after leaving the airport 1 klm from the turn to the road from the airport. on your left.
Even so many smaller clubs do have just as good as jagure! Lis'a fun Pub in mandaue which is closer to lapu lapu see this site for address and phone number. You will find the girls more accepting to fun. The problem with most of the girls at Arena is botox every night, Also this is a starting point before they go to korea. ok. So the girls are there not trying to earn big money just getting ready for Korea. Photo of an arena girl Cathy is on dragon slayers section posted 2 days ago check it her out. any more information just pm me ok.
Porty
How did you get $40/night here? Their website lists the cheapest room at 2150pp/night.
How did you get $40/night here? Their website lists the cheapest room at 2150pp/night.
I have never ever booked using these agents on line. My first trip my travel agent booked it was $100 Australian dollars. When i arrived they told me okay sir only $60 ! stayed 3 days before going to Bohol . the last morning the manager had breakfast with me and i asked about discount foe when i returned to Cebu, he said okay gave me room for 1500 pesos. 2months later went back called to book a room direct. When i arrived gave the manager to sheep skins seat covers for his car from Australia, he put me in 508 with jacuzzi , stayed 5 weeks at cost of $40 a night. Trust me meet the manger then for future trips, see what he would like surpise him. the cos t of seat covers here $150 . when he left some staff moved to the new Crowne Regency in Lapu Lpau. stayed there for $40 too 3 times. but on line lot more expensive, knew 1 of the girls in sales, just called her directly told her and got the best deal.
So my advice is get to know manger or sales department staff little gifts will be reward with great prices.
Gentlemen,
I visited Cebu for the second time late last year, but I had never gotten around to submitting a report. Here you go:
My itinerary for the trip was simple. Upon arrival to the country, I'd bounce from Manila to Cebu and spend quality time with my main honey (MH). She works regular hours at Robinson's mall, which left me plenty of time to wander the city alone. And to creep.
We stayed at the Holiday Plaza Hotel in the Robinson's area (is this called midtown? Uptown? Downtown? ) At 40usd per night, the rooms are decent. They have a rooftop barbeque where you can enjoy sit down dining, or you can have them deliver to your room. You may also enjoy the daily complimentary buffet breakfast for two.
To line things up while MH was busy at work, I had done some prior research on this board. Unfortunately, she punches out at about the same time many of the venues open for business, so my intel is a little sketchy.
I checked out Silver Dollar a few times, and became increasingly depressed realizing that I would miss the opportunity to enjoy everything they had to offer. At least during this trip. I only managed to get in just when they opened, and each time had to leave early to meet MH. From what little I saw, the ladies rated from 6 to 8 in my book. I spotted a 10+ youngin', but she was never more than a step away from who was presumably her Sugar Daddy. I vaguely remember the fine, but I do remember that it was more than reasonable. On one visit, I met a dude who resembled Jack Nicholson. (Could you be reading this? ) He struck me as a regular, and I'm sure it would have been a blast to stay and bullshit with him. I was sorry I had to leave early. But I'll be back, Jack. And soon.
Directly across from Holiday Plaza are two clubs: Volvo, and Thunderdome. In addition to the complexity posed by my main honey's schedule (who works a few doors down), the Holiday Plaza security guards (who know me and main honey from a previous stay) have a direct view of the club's entrances. The efficiency of the gossip network here is nothing to take lightly, so getting inside these clubs under the radar required a combination of planning, luck, and quick thinking.
In both clubs, I was quoted 4, 000php for take out. I was a bit surprised, and wondered if I was quoted the newbie price. In spite of this, I must admit that there were a few Volvo honeys that I would have taken out for that amount if I had the time. I observed a distinct difference in quality among the ladies between these two clubs. Was it just me, or did the Volvo ladies have more curves than the Thunderdome ladies? Also, can action be had in the karaoke rooms in the back, or do people just sing in them?
During my stay, I spent alot of time chillin' at Bo's Coffee adjacent to the Holiday Plaza. You get a lot of attention from passers by when you're sitting outside. One afternoon, a decent looking honey discreetly slipped me her number. After a short text exchange, I was headed back to my room, where I rid myself of my SLR, watch, and all excess cash. We visited a love motel called Forest Park, a ten minute ride from Holiday Plaza. I was a bit nervous, yet excited about the adventure and curious to see what passed for a love motel in Cebu. I was quite impressed. The taxi drives through a main gate and right up to the door of your room. If you arrive in your own car, they have gated garages with entrances directly to rooms. They offer room service, which includes paying for the room and getting a cab for your departure. This way, you can enter, do your business, and leave without being seen by anyone but the kid who assists you. Total discretion was the name of the game here, and I admired the way they pulled it off. By the way, her service sucked. But at 700php, I guess I got my money's worth. I'm sure there are plenty of great lays on the streets of Cebu, but it seems to me that street pussy is really not worth the risks.
I wandered around the Gaisano Metro area until I found Finland spa. The ladies here were a bit older for my taste, and didn't rank too high on my scale. I picked out the youngest I could discern, and to my surprise, she delivered. Is anyone aware of massage parlors in the Robinson's mall area that provide 'extra' services? Massage parlors seem to be everywhere, but its hard to tell from outside whether or not they provide Finland-type services. Are there any indicators one can look for without having to go in and ask, 'Do you provide extra services? '
Taking advantage of MH's unscheduled midnight inventory shift one night, I hailed a cab and simply said 'Gate 3'. Within thirty minutes, we were at the casa. I observed that discretion is also the name of the game there. We waited outside while another customer was wrapping up his selection. After a short wait, we parked inside the main gate then I was led to a room where about twenty ladies were eagerly waiting. I picked a cutie and headed to my new home away from home: Forest Park. For a take out fee of 2, 500php, her service was okay. She was available to spend the whole night, but I had to return to the Holiday Plaza to be tucked in by MH.
It occurred to me that 'normal citizens' probably have little clue as to what foreigners encounter when they're alone on the streets of Cebu. Because if MH had any idea, she wouldn't have let me out of her sight for a minute. I experienced all sorts of contact: Flirting salesgirls, people trying to get me to buy shit I'd never need, hustlers pimping young women, and young women themselves looking for quick dates. Oh, I almost forgot the dudes dressed like chicks. The same dudes resurface in the Robinson's area at dusk. They can be pushy as hell, to the point where on one occasion I had no choice but to step up 'New York Style. ' Although I didn't actually get physical, my message was effective enough because from that point on, they crossed the street whenever they saw me. I'll close by pointing out that during my wanderings in Cebu, not once did I feel I was in any immediate physical danger.
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Notanocker
02-10-08, 01:58
I notice on www.asairooms.com that Parklane Hotel's double rate is a reasonable A$96 even over Easter, yet Marriott for instance puts up its rates significantly to A$141 through this booking service. Have any gents stayed lately at any of the better hotels in Cebu (Marco Polo, Parklane, Waterfront (city version) and so on? Impressions re location and nearby shopping: I know from RTFF that all are GF, as expected. Is the standard of room maintenance satisfactory at all these hotels, and what about the buffet breakfasts' quality? And which buffer lunches or dinners do you particularly recommend or find poor value?
HornyGeorge
02-12-08, 01:13
Notanocker: Waterfront is WAY nicer than any of the others IMHO (i.e only stayed at Marco Polo in Davao (not the one in Lahug), but in Cebu have stayed at Parklane-now called Rajah Park and Marriott).
Porety: I have stated at Days MANY times (with my ex GF) and walked by the White Castle numerous times but never got to enquire about their offerings. I assume it is aimed at Koreans (like most the restaurants and spas right there). Can you provide any details?
I agree the Mandaue places tend to be friendlier than Mango ave probably because not so many foreigners make it up that way to Mandaue. If you are staying on Mactan Mandaue clubs are quite convenient (compared to going all the way downtown).
Fifty Fifty
02-12-08, 10:26
Hi Folks,
I am previously posting on Dubai and now Kazakhstan Forums.
Shortly visiting Pi, first of all Makati from 18th Feb for a week then touring Pi for a further week. Looking at Cebu or elsewhere.
Have a few contacts with girls from other websites to check out, but if any fellow mongers are up for a beer, any PMs will be appreciated.
I will be with a mate from DXB, as far as I know not a member of ISG, but well up for a mongering session.
Tour guides and info much appreciated.
Cheers, FF
Was it just me, or did the Volvo ladies have more curves than the Thunderdome ladies? Also, can action be had in the karaoke rooms in the back, or do people just sing in them?
Both of these clubs are owned by the same guy so there is a good chance that the woman rotate between the two. Yes I would think that singing would be the last thing on my mind!:D Thanks for the FR, we need more of these kinds of reports in this thread.
Hi Friends,
I'm new to Philippines and Will be here for 20 days including 5 days in CEBU. Can you suggest me where I can get some girls for fun. I'm not good in socializing myself.
Anand
Hi Friends,
I'm new to Philippines and Will be here for 20 days including 5 days in CEBU. Can you suggest me where I can get some girls for fun. I'm not good in socializing myself.
Anand
There are plenty of bars on Mango Ave. If you stay at the Midtown you will be very close. If you like excitement you can ask a taxi to take you the "Basketball Court" for some take-out. Only go during the daytime.
There are Casa's available and if you have plenty of money go to some of the KTV's. Here is a link to a guide that you might find useful. Have Fun
http://www.cebuclubreviews.com/cebu_clubs_bars_home.htm
Anyone with recommendations for Mactan beach resorts? Seeing that there are as many as fifteen to choose from, I could easily screw up my selection. My requirements are simple: Must be on the beach, less than 100 usd per night and, of course, girl friendly. Many thanks.
Anyone with recommendations for Mactan beach resorts? Seeing that there are as many as fifteen to choose from, I could easily screw up my selection. My requirements are simple: Must be on the beach, less than 100 usd per night and, of course, girl friendly. Many thanks.
All are girl friendly !!
tanboli or tambuli is a long way out !!
Plantation bay for me is the nicest man made lagoon so large goes into 3 pools.
Blue water ok but getting old!
really much the same for most of them. suggestion always try to book direct i always ask for sale and call them on telephone. some times get great deal. like have had Crowne regency in lapu lpau for as low as 2000 per night when room says anything from 4000.
try it
Hi Friends,
I'm new to Philippines and Will be here for 20 days including 5 days in CEBU. Can you suggest me where I can get some girls for fun. I'm not good in socializing myself.
Anand
Ok here is the Super Secret Scoop Knowledge for getting girls in PI....
... stand still...
Yes they will come to you!
:) hehehehehehehe
sorry, could'nt resist :)
Dude, read the threads for crissakes!
Happy Mongering
Amavida
HornyGeorge
02-15-08, 01:43
If you are loaded, Shangri La makes sense but it will be double your budget (about $200). For $100 your choices are limited to Costabella, Tambuli and Maribago BlueWater. I would opt for Maribago Blue Water. Book through asiatravel.com to get that rate.
Mactan caters mostly to Koreans and Japanese so prices are high. The diving is terrible and the beaches VERY mediocre. Other islands in the area offer much better value and better diving also. But none of them offer as robust a mongering scene or an international airport.
I have just returned from my 8th trip to Cebu and whilst having dinner in Waterfront, Lahug saw a leaflet advertising 3500 pesos per night until April.
I visited Club Harem in Mandaue and this place has really gone down hill. I have been to this place many times before and would honestly say the girls were 9 or 10's. However on this trip the best one was maybe a 7 and the others were 5 at best. Very disappointing drop in standard.
A must visit is the Silver Dollar right off Osmena Circle. Any cab driver knows it, if they don't do not trust them. Heard it sold, or is in the process of being sold. If it closes that would be a shame. Great place to relax, have a beer, and enjoy the girls. I have been going there since the early 90's.
I would avoid the "Basketball Court" during the night, it is not a safe area. Even in the day, unless you are seasoned mongerer and remember all the little things, e.g., cab door locked all the time, negotiate hard, don't have girl thrown at you, etc., it can be daunting. Also, they sneak a lot of these girls onto the ships at dock. As a result, they contract a lot of scary stuff.
If you are a first timer - and until you get comfortable - stick to the Mango Ave. bars, the Lone Star (around the corner from Mango St. bars) and the Silver Dollar.
There are plenty of bars on Mango Ave. If you stay at the Midtown you will be very close. If you like excitement you can ask a taxi to take you the "Basketball Court" for some take-out. Only go during the daytime.
There are Casa's available and if you have plenty of money go to some of the KTV's. Here is a link to a guide that you might find useful. Have Fun
http://www.cebuclubreviews.com/cebu_clubs_bars_home.htm
There were previous reports suggesting maybe Americans were not welcomed at Kiwi Lodge. Not so.
Have been there many times since those reports and can verfify there are americans staying there. Best friend of owner says he knows americans are welcomed. Then spoke to owner just last night, or should I say he spoke to me, cause he recognised me as a regular paying customer. Told him about gossip, he laughed and said not so, americans welcomed.
Lots of flags from various countries there. Suggest you bring along American one and raise it, LOL.
I would recommend Affinity KTV Bar right next to the Ayala Center. For 4000 Peso one can bar fine which INCLUDES the price for the girl. I bar fined a nice girl there. I found the Silver Dollar in an area that I did NOT feel too comfortable in walking around at night, but Affinity is in a decent neighborhood. If you like to sing, this is a good place.
Notanocker
02-18-08, 08:41
Has anyone recently been to the allegedly difficult to locate (RTFF) Liza's Sea Fun Pub in Cabahug Street (taxi plus massage hahahahaha = rough translation of street name). What is the cuisine like? And are the women still the most pleasant, and attractive, of company? Are they 18 - 19, 20s, 30s in age? Many thanks.
AussieOverboard
02-18-08, 10:28
I am making my first trip to Cebu in April.
Are you able to buy vitamin V there without pescription? I intend to fit in a lot of fun and want to make sure i can handle the pace.
ANy info greatly appreciated.
IFRpilot99
02-18-08, 19:53
Both V and Cialis are everywhere.
I am making my first trip to Cebu in April.
Are you able to buy vitamin V there without pescription? I intend to fit in a lot of fun and want to make sure i can handle the pace.
ANy info greatly appreciated.
IFRpilot99
02-18-08, 19:56
The area where Silver Dollar is a perfectly safe place. It is just down from Fuente circle. The quality of girls at the Silver Dollar however is questionable. Its a good place to have a beer though - they open early and the owner (Chris) runs a straight up business.
I would recommend Affinity KTV Bar right next to the Ayala Center. For 4000 Peso one can bar fine which INCLUDES the price for the girl. I bar fined a nice girl there. I found the Silver Dollar in an area that I did NOT feel too comfortable in walking around at night, but Affinity is in a decent neighborhood. If you like to sing, this is a good place.
HornyGeorge
02-19-08, 00:53
Rx required for Viagra everywhere in Phil, although Doctor visit is about 10 dolars only. Prices for even generic V are HIGH!. You can take your chances with a street vendor, but better to get in other countries.
I have just returned from my 8th trip to Cebu and whilst having dinner in Waterfront, Lahug saw a leaflet advertising 3500 pesos per night until April.
I visited Club Harem in Mandaue and this place has really gone down hill. I have been to this place many times before and would honestly say the girls were 9 or 10's. However on this trip the best one was maybe a 7 and the others were 5 at best. Very disappointing drop in standard.Just Phoned Waterfront Lahug spry,they told me the promo has ended? Oh well,marriott it is then.
HornyGeorge
02-19-08, 21:02
They can get better rates than individuals can at Waterfront (Marriott too). Marriott is nice, and convenient to Ayala Center, but Waterfront is WAY nicer and in a more upmarket area.
In terms of violent crime, I agree with IFR pilot that Fuente Osmena area is safe, just ignore the large number of beggars. Even Jakosalem Street and the downscale nightlife area of Cebu City is not that bad IMHO. Safer than red light areas of most US cities.
IFRpilot99
02-19-08, 22:12
If your bothered for a prescription just go to the next pharm. You don't need to even think about buying it on the street - it is just a matter of walking into the pharmacy.
Rx required for Viagra everywhere in Phil, although Doctor visit is about 10 dolars only. Prices for even generic V are HIGH!. You can take your chances with a street vendor, but better to get in other countries.
If I'm not mistaken, it was the Kiwi lodge web site that made such an announcement. It was worded in such a manner that I suspect it was just a good fun NZ [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) take. Just went to the web site to double check and it looks like they have replaced the old web site.
http://www.kiwilodge.org/
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There were previous reports suggesting maybe Americans were not welcomed at Kiwi Lodge. Not so.
Have been there many times since those reports and can verfify there are americans staying there. Best friend of owner says he knows americans are welcomed. Then spoke to owner just last night, or should I say he spoke to me, cause he recognised me as a regular paying customer. Told him about gossip, he laughed and said not so, americans welcomed.
Lots of flags from various countries there. Suggest you bring along American one and raise it, LOL.
Bad luck Delbert, I guess they must have sold their allocated number of discount rooms.
I would advise against staying at Marriots at the moment due to all of the construction work going on at the moment right next to the Hotel!
Hi,
I just read your post on Mactan and Korean / Japanse crowd. Had a CB girl check out the area the last days and am disapointed in the results. Top spot south sea view (Hilton) = 3. 500 $ / square meter. New projects in Vistamar (Mirada) or Punta Engana (Amisa) seem to be bout half that price but ready in two years only with more tower constructions not making it peaceful for the next ten years, not to mention execution risk. What would be your number one "value" place recommendation with sea view, tennis, golf for semi-retirement but with quick airport exit possible like in Mactan?
Cheers,
Ua Freak
If you are loaded, Shangri La makes sense but it will be double your budget (about $200). For $100 your choices are limited to Costabella, Tambuli and Maribago BlueWater. I would opt for Maribago Blue Water. Book through asiatravel.com to get that rate.
Mactan caters mostly to Koreans and Japanese so prices are high. The diving is terrible and the beaches VERY mediocre. Other islands in the area offer much better value and better diving also. But none of them offer as robust a mongering scene or an international airport.
Bad luck Delbert, I guess they must have sold their allocated number of discount rooms.
I would advise against staying at Marriots at the moment due to all of the construction work going on at the moment right next to the Hotel!Not a problem mate,they had construction work going on a few months ago when I was there,and bamboo scaffolding a few yards from my hotel window,Its only for sleeping in,thanks :-)
The Voyager
02-21-08, 23:10
Bad luck Delbert, I guess they must have sold their allocated number of discount rooms.
I would advise against staying at Marriots at the moment due to all of the construction work going on at the moment right next to the Hotel! Hi all,
I guess I am out of luck too, I have to stay at the Marriott when I come in 2 weeks, but the lucky part is I won't need to pay for it
It's my first time in Cebu, so I just wanted to know if it is a good platform for our hobby. I understand location is fine, but anyone know if the hotel is girl friendly?
Any recommended address for hunting in a walking distance?
Thanks in advance.
Bad luck Delbert, I guess they must have sold their allocated number of discount rooms.
I would advise against staying at Marriots at the moment due to all of the construction work going on at the moment right next to the Hotel!
have they finished the new wing at kiwilodge yet.
Hi all,
I guess I am out of luck too, I have to stay at the Marriott when I come in 2 weeks, but the lucky part is I won't need to pay for it
It's my first time in Cebu, so I just wanted to know if it is a good platform for our hobby. I understand location is fine, but anyone know if the hotel is girl friendly?
Any recommended address for hunting in a walking distance?
Thanks in advance.Voyager,your right next to a great hunting ground. Ayala!
I guess I am out of luck too, I have to stay at the Marriott when I come in 2 weeks, but the lucky part is I won't need to pay for it
It's my first time in Cebu, so I just wanted to know if it is a good platform for our hobby. I understand location is fine, but anyone know if the hotel is girl friendly?
Any recommended address for hunting in a walking distance?
There are plenty of good hotels around besides the Marriott, which of course is gf.
Check out Ratsky's in the mall and Infinity KTV across the street.
It would be nice to see a report from a first time vistor to Cebu.
Have a great trip!
have they finished the new wing at kiwilodge yet.Certainly not, this is the Philippines, but I see today they are using some/part of it already.
Notanocker
02-28-08, 09:38
Has anyone recent feedback about hotels such as Waterfront in both Cebu City and on Mactan Island; Parklane Hotel in Cebu City; Alta Village Resort and others in the Cordova area of Mactan Island. Room quality and experiences? 'Talent' at hotel cafes and restaurants? I have asked previously about Alta but no feedback resulted. Many thanks.
I would recommend the KTV bar near Ayala called Inifinity. It is literary within a 5 minute walk from the Ayala Center and the Parklane Hotel. For 4000 Peso, includes the bar fine AND the Girls fee where she keeps 2000 Peso of that fee, while the other 2000 goes to the bar. You can give them extra if you want. That combine with a mandatory room and bar drinks of 1500 peso leaves you out about 5500 Peso. That is a OK fee.
I liked the girl, and we made a side deal where she would be with me for 2000 Peso a night for the remainder of may stay in Cebu. She was great. Ok deal and the girls can sing as well as go back to your hotel room. I know that I paid more, but half the experience was being with the girl, and she make worth it. I like Infinity and will go back there in the next time I am in Cebu.
The Inifinity (Sic) has all the magic of a used car lot, maybe more. Its a rip-off that preys on first time western tourists.
In all my years in Cebu been there twice. Both times they were overbearing, pushy, and attempted to milk me for every cent I had by instructing you on everything - including what to drink.
You are better off taking a cab to the Mango St. bars or, better yet, to the Silver Dollar off Osmena Circle.
I would recommend the KTV bar near Ayala called Inifinity. It is literary within a 5 minute walk from the Ayala Center and the Parklane Hotel. For 4000 Peso, includes the bar fine AND the Girls fee where she keeps 2000 Peso of that fee, while the other 2000 goes to the bar. You can give them extra if you want. That combine with a mandatory room and bar drinks of 1500 peso leaves you out about 5500 Peso. That is a OK fee.
I liked the girl, and we made a side deal where she would be with me for 2000 Peso a night for the remainder of may stay in Cebu. She was great. Ok deal and the girls can sing as well as go back to your hotel room. I know that I paid more, but half the experience was being with the girl, and she make worth it. I like Infinity and will go back there in the next time I am in Cebu.
I agree with Billspu , Infinity , and the like (Jaguar , wherever) is for suckers.
But its all part of the process of learning how and where to get value.
I too was a sucker in years gone by. Occasionally they still get me to this day , lol.
Never had to step inside Infinity to find out if it was value or not though , lol.
Long live the Newbies and their recommendations. Warms the cockles of my heart.
I would recommend the KTV bar near Ayala called Inifinity. It is literary within a 5 minute walk from the Ayala Center and the Parklane Hotel. For 4000 Peso, includes the bar fine AND the Girls fee where she keeps 2000 Peso of that fee, while the other 2000 goes to the bar. You can give them extra if you want. That combine with a mandatory room and bar drinks of 1500 peso leaves you out about 5500 Peso. That is a OK fee.
I liked the girl, and we made a side deal where she would be with me for 2000 Peso a night for the remainder of may stay in Cebu. She was great. Ok deal and the girls can sing as well as go back to your hotel room. I know that I paid more, but half the experience was being with the girl, and she make worth it. I like Infinity and will go back there in the next time I am in Cebu.Try Liza's Sea Fun Pub next time.
Info on this thread 7th of February.
Anyone been there since that post ?
Fifty Fifty
03-06-08, 10:05
You are better off taking a cab to the Mango St. bars or, better yet, to the Silver Dollar off Osmena Circle.
Was in Cebu as a first timer and visited Silver Dollar last week, a total dump, 80% of the girls are old wrecks, a complete waste of time.
However, Mango St Bars, brilliant and inexpensive too. Vikings, BG Bar, Asian Flowers, etc all full of very nice, fit younger babes, with cheap beer at PHP 50, Ladydrinks 150 ish. Girl gets 40 of it.
Barfines 1700 -2000 Max, girl gets 700 - 1000 and didnt ask for any more either.
You can go in, buy a couple of drinks, choose any of the fit younger (barely 18+) babes, barfine her, and get away with spending less than 3000 for all night, now that is a bargain these days.
Full reports to follow.
Cheers, Fifty Fifty
Starchild2012
03-06-08, 10:14
Was in Cebu as a first timer and visited Silver Dollar last week, a total dump, 80% of the girls are old wrecks, a complete waste of time.
However, Mango St Bars, brilliant and inexpensive too. Vikings, BG Bar, Asian Flowers, etc all full of very nice, fit younger babes, with cheap beer at PHP 50, Ladydrinks 150 ish. Girl gets 40 of it.
Barfines 1700 -2000 Max, girl gets 700 - 1000 and didnt ask for any more either.
You can go in, buy a couple of drinks, choose any of the fit younger (barely 18+) babes, barfine her, and get away with spending less than 3000 for all night, now that is a bargain these days.
Full reports to follow.
Cheers, Fifty Fifty
Yep I agree...Silver Dollar is the worst of the lot, its like a single bedroom lane with coachroaches rolling around plus cat and some girls. the quality is also poor...but lots of expats hang around for hours on end and there is no pressure to buy drinks etc...
If you have money to burn or quality as your goal...you should be better of at vikings and way way better off at jaguar and Arena if you have somehow evaded the tax in your home country and you ready to burn that money in Cebu ;)
Fifty Fifty
03-06-08, 10:33
but lots of expats hang around for hours on end and there is no pressure to buy drinks etc...
Yes noted some of the old wrecks seen in Silver Dollar were the ex-pats !!!
Drinks Pressure in Mango St Bars was varied and not too bad in most cases. When they did get pushy, we found the the standard answer to work well:
''When we want to buy a drink we will ask for one, if you continue to be pushy we will leave''
and
Ýes the lady can have a drink when I buy myself one, until then, she can wait''
In most bars it worked very well and we were fairly generous with the drinks, but at 50 and 150 it was so much cheaper than the rip off Burgos in Makati, we didnt care too much.
Cheers, Fifty Fifty
Just before Vikings taxi driver said "fire", he was all excited etc. I told him to concentrate on getting me to destination.
Further down road it seemed the front doors of Viking were open and smoke was bellowing out. I said, Vikings on fire. Driver said yes.
Owners are on the run apparently, then fire, so should people be talking about Vikings as an option nowadays?
Went there once many years ago. Will not be going there again, but some guys might like to know if its in or out of business nowadays. If owners on the run then does that mean BG Bikini Bar and maybe one other are also non functional?
Any GoGo phile in cebu right now know what the actual situation is?
Fifty Fifty
03-07-08, 05:50
Just before Vikings taxi driver said "fire", he was all excited etc. I told him to concentrate on getting me to destination.
Further down road it seemed the front doors of Viking were open and smoke was bellowing out. I said, Vikings on fire. Driver said yes.
Owners are on the run apparently, then fire, so should people be talking about Vikings as an option nowadays?
Went there once many years ago. Will not be going there again, but some guys might like to know if its in or out of business nowadays. If owners on the run then does that mean BG Bikini Bar and maybe one other are also non functional?
Any GoGo phile in cebu right now know what the actual situation is?
I was there on my first visit, 25th February, the day after the supposed Fire.
Apparently there was a fire in the Air Conditioning Unit that serves the Bars upstairs, BG to Eric the Red and Vikings below, same owners.
All upstairs bars were closed but Vikings was Open and fully functional, but no Aircon operating.
All girls from upstairs Bars were in Vikings, literally hundreds of them and hardly any customers at all. With no A/C the temperature was just bearable
It was an absolute Fanny Fest with barfines at PHP 1700 and an unbelievable choice of girls, some were unfamiliar with the bar and wanted to get out asap. They were all over us, very very friendly.
Went there next night and situation was same, but stifling heat was unbearable and we left for cooler bars over the road.
On night of 27th Feb all was back to normal, upstairs bars re-opened and Vikings was fairly cool and unfriendly.
So its business as usual now.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, F/Fifty
I was there on my first visit, 25th February, the day after the supposed Fire.
Apparently there was a fire in the Air Conditioning Unit that serves the Bars upstairs, BG to Eric the Red and Vikings below, same owners.
All upstairs bars were closed but Vikings was Open and fully functional, but no Aircon operating.
All girls from upstairs Bars were in Vikings, literally hundreds of them and hardly any customers at all. With no A/C the temperature was just bearable.
It was an absolute Fanny Fest with barfines at PHP 1700 and an unbelievable choice of girls, some were unfamiliar with the bar and wanted to get out asap. They were all over us, very very friendly.
Went there next night and situation was same, but stifling heat was unbearable and we left for cooler bars over the road.
On night of 27th Feb all was back to normal, upstairs bars re-opened and Vikings was fairly cool and unfriendly.
So its business as usual now.
Hope this helps.
Cheers, F/FiftyThanks GoGophile , curiosity satisfied.
Sounds like you had a good time.
Firehouse was closed. I don:t know if they:ll be open again, but I doubt it. The letter posted on the door said something about p4p. Just when they figured out how to get the beer served cold... too bad.
Tina's downtown is a pitiful place. I left a half open beer....and that is rare for me. It has potential, but whatever. Fat chicks just don:t do it for me.
Just for shit and giggles, I walked into the "dangerous" area east of San Carlos Uni. I walked into the basketball court from two streets, but suspect there are some alleyways to get into there as well. There were some attractive women, but the pimp who shadowed me (despite my very obvious BACK OFF ASSHOLE communication) was such a sleazeball, that I just walked out. He followed me everywhere...
Next time I'll walk in from the other side.....if at all. Alternative, I just called an old friend from Silver Dollar and she serviced me just fine.
X
Cherry Buster
03-07-08, 18:15
1) Any experts here on short time motels in Cebu, who can give recommendations? I saw Gumby refer to Forest Park which I've never heard of before. Short time motels aren't usually advertised.
I used the services of Queensland Manor once near SM mall and Arena and was appalled at the smell of the towels and the condition of the shower and room. It was recommended to me but unless I went to the wrong queensland, it really sucked xxx. I felt kind of sorry for the Honquera girl.
I think I only paid 200-400 pesos (can't remember exactly) but I'd rather pay much more for a better place. I like the privacy and service of a short time motel but hate the queensland room conditions. Remember my viewpoint though. Keep in mind that I'm basicly a spoiled westerner who likes the Marriott best due to luxurious conditions and great girlfriendliness. I'd like to have somewhat decent conditions even for a short timer.
2) Anyone else find the Waterfront security to be people unfriendly? Others praise the Waterfront and the checkin staff is OK but I found cochroaches in the bathroom (later saw them spraying other rooms) and didn't find the Waterfront security guy out front to be friendly. I was simply walking out of the hotel down to the road alone to get some exercise and he almost attacked me (ran right at me from behind) for getting too close (I guess) to the parked cars out front but I'm not sure. He asked me where I was going and I said sarcastically I'm walking down the road if that's OK with him. I think I would have been in the right if I'd had turned around and punched him in self defense because of the way he ran at me. It was dimly lit with noone around me so my spidey senses were on high alert at the time. I've read somewhere on the net about the unfriendliness at the Waterfront but this was ridiculous. I'm just a short, pudgy guy and look like a tourist so what's up with that?
I really would not recommend punching a security guard- last month in Cebu a guard shot a 15 year old for teasing him for being fat!!
I have been to waterfront many,many times and always found them to be fine.
My fav hotel is the Holiday Plaza> cheap, ok rooms and never have a probem to bring in girls. Even the SW's outside can be fun.
This trip I wanna impress a CB girl and got good comments on the Parklane Hotel> new, good service, location next to Ayala Mall and for 76$ reasonable.
Any experience on restrictions at night bringing in girls? Hassle from the guards...?
[QUOTE=Cherry Buster]1) Any experts here on short time motels in Cebu, who can give recommendations? I saw Gumby refer to Forest Park which I've never heard of before. Short time motels aren't usually advertised.
Try the "Prince's Court or King's Court". The Taxi drivers know where to find it and the girls like it. Both are much nicer than Queensland or Sogo. FYI - they have some themed rooms for about 450. I asked for one once and got a Mediaeval Room with bolted handcuffs on the wall. It wasn't what I wanted...but the room was big and clean.
Wally Perrier
03-08-08, 10:27
Was about 10 days in midtown, find myself a nice girl in robinsons mall, down under the hotel, and had nice gf experience for the whole time,
Man, in robinsons, so much nice girls walk around, but most expect to marry you, not ask money, only ring, LOL
Go to coffeeshop, or sit next to internet shop restaurant on first floor
And look girls in eyes, be sure, they come to sit to you, if you make advances for them
Have fun, have girls, have sex, mmmm
Fifty Fifty
03-08-08, 12:44
Thanks GoGophile , curiosity satisfied.
Sounds like you had a good time.
Your welcome.
We certainly did have a good time. I will post a FR when I reach that part of the trip, Im still on day 3 in makati at the moment. The week in Cebu and Bohol was interesting though.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Cherry Buster
03-09-08, 19:07
I really would not recommend punching a security guard- last month in Cebu a guard shot a 15 year old for teasing him for being fat!!
I have been to waterfront many,many times and always found them to be fine.
Spry, just to clarify. He wasn't dressed as security. I just assumed he was from the hotel due to his question and the direction he was coming from. I was using my new nokia phone with GPS that I bought at SM and thought someone was running up from behind to attack me. Punch is probably too macho of a word. Throwing my phone at the guy and running for my life like a little girl might be more correct. Strange because I've walked around some of the really bad parts of town and never had anything threatening happen to me. Maybe just a misunderstanding due to my gangsta look of shorts and golf shirt. Or maybe he was really after my phone and I turned around fast enough to catch him in the act. Ya never know. Be careful out there.
Also sorry if anyone likes the waterfront and you felt I dissed it. As with everything in these forums, it all depends on your point of view and everyone's experiences are different. I may give it another try.
Try the "Prince's Court or King's Court".
Tooch, thanks i may give it a try since sometimes I need a motel to crash for a short time. I've searched websites and they list motels like "Q5, Queensland, HOtel Sogo, Jade COurt, Prince Court, King's Court". So as to not confuse people looking for a real hotel. These short time motels are "taxi drive-in motels" which are only ok for crashing for a few hrs or overnight if you are in a bind.
IFRpilot99
03-10-08, 21:39
P4000 is outrageous for some boo-tay here in Cebu. Especially considering all of the freebies available with little effort. Even at P2000 it better be something special!
Just FYI.
I would recommend the KTV bar near Ayala called Inifinity. It is literary within a 5 minute walk from the Ayala Center and the Parklane Hotel. For 4000 Peso, includes the bar fine AND the Girls fee where she keeps 2000 Peso of that fee, while the other 2000 goes to the bar. You can give them extra if you want. That combine with a mandatory room and bar drinks of 1500 peso leaves you out about 5500 Peso. That is a OK fee.
I liked the girl, and we made a side deal where she would be with me for 2000 Peso a night for the remainder of may stay in Cebu. She was great. Ok deal and the girls can sing as well as go back to your hotel room. I know that I paid more, but half the experience was being with the girl, and she make worth it. I like Infinity and will go back there in the next time I am in Cebu.
Cherry Buster
03-12-08, 21:21
I see a lot of criticism of Yuri, but I think if you look at it from another perspective, Yuri's post is very helpful for many people. Maybe it's Yuri's first time to Cebu (i.e. needs to be close to Ayala), short time in Cebu (i.e. doesn't have the time to try to pickup a freebie), or P4000 is relatively cheap compared to his income (e.g. P4000 = 64Euro = 50GBP). Anyone who has any $USD definitely is hurting right now.
I personally have never been to Infinity and after Yuri's post, I know some important details. I don't think the takeout rate at Infinity is any higher than other like places (i.e. KTV).
...I don't think the takeout rate at Infinity is any higher than other like places (i.e. KTV).
Ah yes, those three letters that make me see $$$$$$$ flash before my eyes everytime... KTV... :)
Amavida
Good on ya C Buster, glad to see someone has some perspective. Everytime someone pays more than usual there is a big flap. How many time have we heard, "you'll ruin it for the rest of us".
Yet we see guys in the bars buying drinks for five women. They are getting an ego boost, the girls are happy, the bar owners is happy, but that is four women that aren't available for other customers. I never hear anyone complain about THAT!
X
I see a lot of criticism of Yuri, but I think if you look at it from another perspective, Yuri's post is very helpful for many people. Maybe it's Yuri's first time to Cebu (i.e. needs to be close to Ayala), short time in Cebu (i.e. doesn't have the time to try to pickup a freebie), or P4000 is relatively cheap compared to his income (e.g. P4000 = 64Euro = 50GBP). Anyone who has any $USD definitely is hurting right now.
I personally have never been to Infinity and after Yuri's post, I know some important details. I don't think the takeout rate at Infinity is any higher than other like places (i.e. KTV).
Big Boner 40
03-13-08, 06:46
Just want to repost this site. It's been quite helpful for me and my friends.
http://www.cebuclubreviews.com/cebu_clubs_bars_home.htm
Fifty Fifty
03-13-08, 08:08
I see a lot of criticism of Yuri, but I think if you look at it from another perspective, Yuri's post is very helpful for many people. Maybe it's Yuri's first time to Cebu (i.e. needs to be close to Ayala), short time in Cebu (i.e. doesn't have the time to try to pickup a freebie), or P4000 is relatively cheap compared to his income (e.g. P4000 = 64Euro = 50GBP). Anyone who has any $USD definitely is hurting right now.
Agreed, take it easy on Yuri folks.
If you look at the numbers in true perspective Yuri had the sense to make what he referred to as a ''Side Deal'' with the girl to take her for 2000 each night thereafter. Basically he found a good girl that he liked and after maybe paying too much (4000) the first time, he cut himself a very reasonable option thereafter.
How much more would anyone else have spent cruising the bars each night looking for a good one then paying her the 1000 rate??
Ok Ok some of us like the chop and change, me included, but when I do find a good one I prefer the short term Side Deal option as well.
No, Yuri got it right, did what he wanted and paid what he could afford. At the end of the day he didnt ruin it for everyone else either.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Based on the comments about Yuri's post, some people are gonna be mad at me, but since I've gotten information off of this website many times, I feel obligated to report on my experiences. I'm posting because I clearly made some mistakes so some people may want to learn from them. Also, I'm posting the prices I received for other people's reference.
I had takeout from four different places while in Cebu. I checked out more places, but since I just looked and left, I don't have much to add about those places.
Love City. The first night I was there, I went to Mango Ave, and for whatever reason, BG's was closed. It was a Sunday night. I checked out Papillon, then went to Love City, and found a girl that I absolutely had to have. There were probably 20 girls that night, and they were all fairly average, but one of them was totally my type, so I got the mamasan to get me her. She told me the fee was 4000, which I knew was too much, but she wouldn't budge and I couldn't help myself so I just paid it. I do ok for myself so the money wasn't really an issue, but the girls I talked to at Papillon were available for 1700 so this was a total ripoff. What really sucked was that the service was not that great. I did my thing twice, then kicked her out because I was annoyed that the service wasn't better.
Verdict. Do not go to this place.
Jaguar. Jaguar had a fairly large selection which were higher quality than at both Papillon and Love City. But man, they were expensive. I picked two girls to hang out with in one of the karaoke rooms, and they brought lady drinks like clockwork every 30 minutes. Since I had two girls, I was paying something like 1200 pesos every half hour. I stayed about two hours and then barfined one of them. I had to pay 6000 pesos for the barfine, and my total bill was like 11000 because I was drinking. Again, not a big deal but relative to other places, I paid a lot. Service from the girl was pretty good.
Verdict. Do not go to this place. Too expensive and too much pressure with the lady drinks. It's annoying. If you are going to spend this kind of money, spend a little more and go to Arena (see below).
Viking's. Apparently there was a fire so BG's was closed and a lot of girls at Viking's were from there. I think this was previously reported. Anyways, there were a lot of girls there, probably over forty. I sat with two girls and eventually barfined one for 2000. Since I bought some drinks, my total tab was like 3000. Service was ok.
Verdict. Good deal for the money, although I think perhaps I didn't pick the right girl because service was just ok (not bad, not especially memorable).
Arena. Arena was the most expensive place, but they clearly had the hottest girls. They were definitely a cut above Jaguar. I wound up selecting a girl that can best be described as a Filipino version of the porn star Julia Ann. Huge bombs (fake but felt real), great figure, pretty face. The barfine was 9000 because she was a "model" and not a "local". Locals were 7000. I stayed for an hour because of a mandatory lady drink for one hour, then took off. No real pressure, there, though, before I had picked the girl, which was unlike Jaguar. Now, I don't think the barfine has any correlation to service, but this girl was freaking awesome in terms of service. Did whatever I asked with a smile. Some of the other girls refused certain things, but not this one. Totally awesome. I have no idea if other girls would provide the same, but this one certainly did. Hindsight being 20/20, my best bet would have just been to get this girl the first night and have her stay with me the whole time I was in Cebu, but oh well.
Verdict. If you're gonna blow a lot of money, go here. Much better than Jaguar. Perhaps I lucked out, but if the other Arena girls provide the same level of service, then this is definitely the best place.
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Arena. Arena was the most expensive place, but they clearly had the hottest girls. They were definitely a cut above Jaguar. I wound up selecting a girl that can best be described as a Filipino version of the porn star Julia Ann. Huge bombs (fake but felt real), great figure, pretty face. The barfine was 9000 because she was a "model" and not a "local". Locals were 7000. I stayed for an hour because of a mandatory lady drink for one hour, then took off. No real pressure, there, though, before I had picked the girl, which was unlike Jaguar. Now, I don't think the barfine has any correlation to service, but this girl was freaking awesome in terms of service. Did whatever I asked with a smile. Some of the other girls refused certain things, but not this one. Totally awesome. I have no idea if other girls would provide the same, but this one certainly did. Hindsight being 20/20, my best bet would have just been to get this girl the first night and have her stay with me the whole time I was in Cebu, but oh well.
Verdict. If you're gonna blow a lot of money, go here. Much better than Jaguar. Perhaps I lucked out, but if the other Arena girls provide the same level of service, then this is definitely the best place.
Always wanted to know how much Arena charged as was always blown away by the girls there.
But according to the link onClub Arena, you were over quoted but as you said its your money and you can afford it.
Barfine: GRO's P4000, Dancers P6000 (!!!!!!)
Another place I which is very filopino is Club Harem which i have never seen a comfirmed barfine from.
HornyGeorge
03-13-08, 19:10
Viking BF was 1700 in January. MAYBE they raised it, but more likely they sensed you were new to the scene and not interested in bargaining. SOME girls will give better service to guys who pay more than baseline, so as long as you were satisfied and feel you got your money's worth more power to you.
Thankfully the dollar appears to have hit rock bottom and is now back at 41 Pisos reducing your costs by almost 3% from low ebb. Club Temptations also had 1700BF in January and several cuties. What is BG?
Hello fellow mongers,
I am looking for some advice.
I expect to spend a month in Cebu soon on business. But I will be funding accommodation, so price is an issue.
I hate staying in hotels, I have no idea how many thousands I have stayed in.
Since I am there for a month, does anyone know of fully furnished apartments that can be rented monthly?
best wishes,
Gangles
The barfine was 9000 because she was a "model" and not a "local". Locals were 7000.
Wow i cant imagine what 9000 buys you but it would have to be bloody amazing for that money... ;)
Cheers mate!
Amavida
Ahehehe yea I stayed in Cebu for 1 Month.
I never paid more then 1000 p.
On average I paid 500p for 3 hours.
I heard the richmond I think its near mango and ayla got 30, 000 peso quote looked ok. If you do stay please let me know how it was thanks good luck. I might try this summer.
Since I am there for a month, does anyone know of fully furnished apartments that can be rented monthly?
There is a shortage of decent, furnished apartments in the city especially for only one month.
There are a few places out on Mactan but they are pricey.
If you are still interested, PM me for more info.
Fifty Fifty
03-17-08, 10:54
Viking BF was 1700 in January. MAYBE they raised it, but more likely they sensed you were new to the scene and not interested in bargaining. What is BG?
Confirm BF set at 1700 in Vikings, BG and Eric the Red as of March 1st 2nd 3rd this year.
Spoke to a regular in Vikings and he gets his girls for BF of 1500, but as he says, he is a regular !!! Meaning every day for 2 weeks at a time. Apparently his 'live in' babe likes the variety of girls he brings back - pity I didnt have more time to chat with him LOL.
Cheers F/Fifty
Starchild2012
03-17-08, 17:34
Arena. Arena was the most expensive place, but they clearly had the hottest girls. They were definitely a cut above Jaguar. I wound up selecting a girl that can best be described as a Filipino version of the porn star Julia Ann. Huge bombs (fake but felt real), great figure, pretty face. The barfine was 9000 because she was a "model" and not a "local". Locals were 7000. I stayed for an hour because of a mandatory lady drink for one hour, then took off. No real pressure, there, though, before I had picked the girl, which was unlike Jaguar. Now, I don't think the barfine has any correlation to service, but this girl was freaking awesome in terms of service. Did whatever I asked with a smile. Some of the other girls refused certain things, but not this one. Totally awesome. I have no idea if other girls would provide the same, but this one certainly did. Hindsight being 20/20, my best bet would have just been to get this girl the first night and have her stay with me the whole time I was in Cebu, but oh well.
Verdict. If you're gonna blow a lot of money, go here. Much better than Jaguar. Perhaps I lucked out, but if the other Arena girls provide the same level of service, then this is definitely the best place.
I was in Arena and Jaguar, the quality of sevice is due to korean businesman frequenting the place and both bars are owned by koreans..korean businessman who come there don't mind spending that kind of money and they are regulars.
They take 5 to 10 girls at a time to the karoake room, thats why...the number of girls are more there
However, if you are a regular to the place , the price for bar fine comes down to 2500. when i went they had 5000 pesos bar fine...as we go through the routine, i too wanted the girl i picked at any cost and did not mind spending that money..however, when i started frequenting the place..the bar fine came down to 2500 pesos.
The best kept secret is..if you hang around till 2.30 am, which is the time bar closes...you can have any girl who has not being picked up..for free..without bar fine :D...just stand outside the main hall..and get hold of mamasan..there are atleast 5 mamasans there..give her some money and pick the girl you want...you pay the girl when she does the deed in your home or hotel for any amount you fixed her..usually its between 1000 -2000 pesos
or talk to her directly after 2.30 AM..when everything is unofficial in both jaguar and arena.
The best posts always come from the insiders/regulars...seems like there are so few these days. Thanks.
Korean won has been very high the last few years. Tourism from Koreans is up 30+ percent in many places.
US dollar is being wasted on some idiot's war, justified by the lie of WMD.
My net worth declined by 20% recently, but fortunately I don't get paid in dollars.
Thanks loser, love to go pub crawl with u someday...
X
I was in Arena and Jaguar, the quality of sevice is due to korean businesman frequenting the place and both bars are owned by koreans..korean businessman who come there don't mind spending that kind of money and they are regulars.
They take 5 to 10 girls at a time to the karoake room, thats why...the number of girls are more there
However, if you are a regular to the place , the price for bar fine comes down to 2500. when i went they had 5000 pesos bar fine...as we go through the routine, i too wanted the girl i picked at any cost and did not mind spending that money..however, when i started frequenting the place..the bar fine came down to 2500 pesos.
The best kept secret is..if you hang around till 2.30 am, which is the time bar closes...you can have any girl who has not being picked up..for free..without bar fine :D...just stand outside the main hall..and get hold of mamasan..there are atleast 5 mamasans there..give her some money and pick the girl you want...you pay the girl when she does the deed in your home or hotel for any amount you fixed her..usually its between 1000 -2000 pesos
or talk to her directly after 2.30 AM..when everything is unofficial in both jaguar and arena.
Sunstar (http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2008/03/17/news/police.arrests.american.filipina.wife.for.child.labor.in.lapu.lapu.resto.bar.html)
CC busted on Monday, March 17 and it does not look good.
Wicked Roger
03-19-08, 09:48
Fellow Mongers
Am catching up with the FRs now.
After Makati and the fun I had there, I moved down to Cebu. Never been there but had enough CB and DIA girls there or close by to warrant a visit. And I had heard nice things about it from my good mate Fifty Fifty. I needed a change from Makati as well. And I was trying to see if I could shag the girls without BF any from any bar etc. For a change I suppose and challenge.
Now with anything to do with Filipinas I think you need many plans. They can be very late IMHO, don’t show, have periods twice a month…..all sorts of reasons why the best laid plans go AWOL. I Cebu I had 9 potential CBN and DIA plus another ex Makati (non WG) and 2 from Davao who said they would come to Cebu on plane (their cost but eventually my cost so they did not show)
Stayed at Marriott. Needed definite internet in room for a number of reasons. Checked a few others on cheaper scale but none had this and some could not guarantee wifi in lobby (met a guy staying at Mango Park and he confirmed internet access in lobby very poor, none in rooms).
First day Cebu I met one of waitresses from Makati that I had shagged before. Met at Ayala and about 10 minutes later she was dancing all over me naked etc. Normal monger stuff with (for me) some Greek thrown in – nicely submissive and horny. But she was always trying to get me to pay for a N95 or N73 – whatever model came to her head at the time, sometimes while shagging so after all the effort and CIM she left and I changed the SIM :)
Following that I met a CB girl who I had chat and cam with a while, sometimes with her showing me her wonderful rack (see the pics I posted earlier in Photo Gallery). She was cherry (virgin) and for 2 days we had a great time, never really asked for anything except a few clothes (so I got her mini skirts heels and a very nice top).
Went to Vikings, Lone Star, Temptations and Silver Dollar with her, met some fellow mongers (non ISG) and all wanted a bit of her but to no avail. Popped her cherry first night and then she just wanted more and being the gent I am I obliged :) and obliged over and over again.
Liked Vikings and Temptations – latter was quiet maybe as a Sunday night, nice girls etc. Lone Star was not that great IMHO but on Sunday free beer and body painting meant it was busy. But without that I felt the girls listless on stage etc. But each to his own. BF cheap compared with Makati as reported earlier, and my CB girl and I were trying to decide if I needed another for fun..I did not take as she is very new to WR’s tastes but will learn fast ;)
Temptations had some really nice slim ones, and while there the mamasan gave some Japanese a beauty parade which was nice and they chose the girls they wanted. Not that many customers, M/F ratio well in favour of M. Vikings was very enjoyable, lots of customers (maybe as Saturday night), some cuties some not but overall a nice place to be and if I was not with my devirginised CB girl would have stayed and selected.
Silver Dollar as OK but FF had reported earlier it was not great and I tend to agree to with him. Was going to go to Arena also but the drinking buddies I had met while in Cebu said the 300 pesos entry charge too much and girls too pricey (see an earlier FR on this). 300 pesos is 30 dirhams so cheap as chips compared to some places in the UAE but I was not too bothered, CB girl needed more education in the joys of sex and I was eager to teach her :)
Part 2 to follow when I get the time need a rest before the todger falls off :)
Wicked Roger
03-19-08, 17:32
Fellow Mongers
Day 3 of my time in Cebu. CB girl had gone back to suburbs, and I now had time to explore the potential of other DIA and CB ladies that I had been chatting with. I had on the list 6 girls and 2 more possibilities, plenty of plans as some go wrong (and they did) and some unexpected surprises – one being another cherry :)
To cut a long story short I had arranged to meet DIA 1 in he early afternoon – she was late by a mile, but as the other 2 I had chosen were running late that was not an issue (for now). 19 yrs old, slim and shaved just how I like them, nice rack but very innocent in many ways – was OK but when we were in hotel acted funny and strange so sent her home. She SMS me saying sorry and if meet at Robinsons w=she would be OK. Traffic is bad so we are both late and she again acts coy so I gave it the thumbs down. Again a SMS and this time a promise of fun and no shyness in the hotel the next morning before I leave. Well my todger was thinking so I said yes….
DIA 2 wanted to meet SM Mall by the food court. She had no mobile but via YM and DIA chat I knew what she looked like etc. But….it is bloody manic there mid afternoon so it was impossible to find her and she was running late (she told me later in chat) so that ended that one.
DIA 3 had a headache at last minute while on my way to Robinsons…so Day 3 was not looking great. I was horny and needed distressing.
FF had kindly gave a me a lead of a girl he had met briefly in Ayala and when I called she remember FF and came to see but…she was 90 mins late so I spent an hour with her and her cherry friend (I always ask and they seem to find that amusing). She was fun, great body, sexy voice and a very nice shag in the making next time FF or me or both of us are in Cebu. (Note to FF the BOD is required based on my research :))
Her friend is equally cute and very shaggable and is a virgin so that is worth coming back for also ;)
I had to cut short supper in Ayala as had the main event…a CB girl I had been chatting with for about 6 months and when I said I was coming to Cebu and what could we do she said ride me on top all night :D My kind of 19 year old Filipina.
So she came..with 2 equally young and slim friends, looked edible (I would do that later). Went Vikings and Love City with them and then she took me to clubs full of local totty. Juliano, Autostop and finally Sunflower City where we danced (well I don’t dance I move funny) until late, she squirmed up against me and was very naughty with her hands. Back to hotel, one friend left for home but the other wanted to stay with me ad CB girl. When asked if she was sure and did she mind watching us have fun she all eyes sparkling.
So CB girl and just shagged in front of her friend with the BBBJ and DATY and all that stuff. She rode me a lot that night. But her friend got horny as well (well they do watching I suppose) and then a nice threesome was enjoyed to end the night. About 6am the girls left as I had work the next morning – was knackered (ask FF he saw me on cam) but happy.
Last day was the morning and DIA 1 returned and this time was not shy. Late again (jeepenys don’t go fast) but a lovely surprise as I took her cherry before I got the flight to Manila. On my return a definite playmate.
So all in all I liked Cebu. Very relaxed, nice weather, nice women and the BFs seem cheap not that I ever tried them. Clubs fine and standard of girls that I saw better mainly than the ones in Burgos IMHO.
I got shagged to death by 18-22 years old all light weight slim and shaved. And I retuned to Manila to see my expat lady provider again and the DIA girl how loves toys in her arse. Needed a long sleep to recover energy levels!!
Keep hard and horny
The Voyager
03-25-08, 07:11
Hi all,
OMG, Wicked Roger just visited Cebu, it means he has de-virginized and corrupted all of those nice philipina girls, hehe.
Roger, my man, you should think about your fellow mongers a bit, I am to land in Cebu next Sunday for a week of vacation, and now I will only find a desolate land like after a war took place
I plan to use DIA contacts as well, first time for me trying to use this type of technique, would you be good enough to share a few tips?
How do you secure that you bring them back to the hotel first night?
What type of message goes well with them to re-assure them?
Where do you entertain them to have them feel relaxed and well taken care of?
I'll give a report of my week after I return.
I also planned to visit CC, but it might well be compromised, any other place of the same type?
If anyone want to meet for a beer and a stroll to the good places, I'll be at Lone Star next Sunday 7pm. Is there any existing way to recognize fellow ISG members? Maybe I should wear a special ISG Tshirt.
So many questions, so little time, so much stress.
Wicked Roger
03-25-08, 19:06
Hi all,
OMG, Wicked Roger just visited Cebu, it means he has de-virginized and corrupted all of those nice philipina girls, hehe.
Roger, my man, you should think about your fellow mongers a bit, I am to land in Cebu next Sunday for a week of vacation, and now I will only find a desolate land like after a war took place
I plan to use DIA contacts as well, first time for me trying to use this type of technique, would you be good enough to share a few tips?
How do you secure that you bring them back to the hotel first night?
What type of message goes well with them to re-assure them?
Where do you entertain them to have them feel relaxed and well taken care of?
Is there any existing way to recognize fellow ISG members? Maybe I should wear a special ISG Tshirt.
So many questions, so little time, so much stress.
There are so many girls from Cebu on DIA it is unreal. Just be nice to start with ask about family, mom and dad and then ex boyfriends. I then go for the kill and ask if they experience with guys or not. If not I ask if they virgin but then get naugthy about if they shave pussy etc.
So many ways to bring up shagging into the conversation.
Beware as they my bring a friend, as I said ion comfort blanket.
I meet them in Ayala or SM Mall in Bo's Coffee Shop and take from there. You will soon find out if they game...they will not be shy in coming forward (well the ones you are looking for).
You will be disappointed and some will not be as their photo (unless you have C2C cam with them). So have back ups.
Lone Star - was disappointed when I went there, look at FF and my FRs recently and see what we think.
Most guys I met in Cebu (expat) are monhgers - just llok for the tounge hanging out and the pointy thing in the trousers :D
Will PM you also
Wicked Roger
03-25-08, 19:14
Voyager
Can you activate you PM box please so I can you some more private advice
Thanks
What does "dia" stand for?
Thanks guys.
Has any been to Club Temptation lately?
Wow, WR, you use the same modus operandi as I do regarding chat strategy and meeting places -- although I never ask about shaved pussy. Why would anyone want to shave a cat?
A few things that were touched on earlier and a few others I just thought of:
*Tell her you will reimburse taxi costs to save time.
*Don't send transportation money unless you know what you are doing.
*Don't meet at the food court -- too many people.
*As WR says, OK to bring a friend or a cousin. I usually say "no" to mothers coming to the first meeting. Nevertheless, after first meeting I've been taken home and met mother and/or father and in each case got the wild thing that night!
*Don't let her/ or friend/or aunty start dictating how things will go. You need to stay in charge.
*Be specific about meeting place and what you are wearing, ask her what she is wearing.
*Some disagree -- but I usually go for it when I get invited to someone's home. It can be very interesting.
How things can go wrong:
"I'm wearing black dress" turns out to mean "I'm wearing black clothing". Duh.
One of the more frustrating meetings. I say, "Let's meet at the North Wing of SM (Cebu) near the fountain" (there is a fountain just outside the entrance). Easy, right? I get a text, "i'm here". So I rush over to the north exit / fountain and call her. She says she doesn't know "north wing", but she is next to some abc food place. Okay, so I find a mall map and no such place is listed. Eventually I tell her to ask someone where the north wing is and go back to my starting point. Eventually she finds me. How someone could not find the entire wing of a mall is beyond me. She says, "I didn't know where it is." My reply, "Yea, but your taxi driver did.". Duh. Then to top it off, as we walk thru the mall, she points out abc food place which is where she initially asked me to meet her. It turns out to be one of those little kiosk type places selling snacks. Sometimes there are cultural and language differences creating problems, and sometimes you're dealing with someone who has misfiring brain neurons.
X
There are so many girls from Cebu on DIA it is unreal. Just be nice to start with ask about family, mom and dad and then ex boyfriends. I then go for the kill and ask if they experience with guys or not. If not I ask if they virgin but then get naugthy about if they shave pussy etc.
So many ways to bring up shagging into the conversation.
Beware as they my bring a friend, as I said ion comfort blanket.
I meet them in Ayala or SM Mall in Bo's Coffee Shop and take from there. You will soon find out if they game...they will not be shy in coming forward (well the ones you are looking for).
You will be disappointed and some will not be as their photo (unless you have C2C cam with them). So have back ups.
Lone Star - was disappointed when I went there, look at FF and my FRs recently and see what we think.
Most guys I met in Cebu (expat) are monhgers - just llok for the tounge hanging out and the pointy thing in the trousers :D
Will PM you also
Sometimes there are cultural and language differences creating problems, and sometimes you're dealing with someone who has misfiring brain neurons.
X
They lead simple lives Xman, you need to be sensitive to that.
AV
Fifty Fifty
03-26-08, 11:21
Sometimes there are cultural and language differences creating problems, and sometimes you're dealing with someone who has misfiring brain neurons. X
They may lead simple lives, but IMHO most of the girls are not such simple people.
After all, we should take into account the fact that on the whole they can think, read, write, type and SMS in English far better than most of us can even begin to utter Tagalog or other mother tongues.
There are the other facts of life to consider too, ie what does drive a good looking barely 18 yr old girl to leave the safety of her family, travel to the city and consort sexually with generally (older, overweight) western guys in the first place - is it misfiring brain neutrons, or other stresses put upon her?
Give em some slack, and they will keep on coming back !!
Cheers, F/Fifty
Notanocker
03-26-08, 12:26
Previous reports have indicated difficulty in locating this bar.
I had a taxi driver who had not heard about it. We eventually located it, but there are three 'Cabahug' streets in Mandaue City.
The easy way to find it is to specify that you wish to travel to 'MANPARK' to the driver. Despite its name, 'MANPARK' is actually a cemetery. It is on F.B. Cabahug Street with Liza's being near the corner (almost directly opposite) the intersection with Jayme Street. It took about 30 minutes to reach from the centre of Cebu in moderate traffic.
I visited at 1700 on a weekday and having other things to do, merely stayed for one drink. There were about six girls in attendance, all of whom were at least a 5.
The bar has a good atmosphere and is relaxing, although at the time I was the only customer. 'Liza' explained that some Filipinos come, as do some Japanese, but rarely Koreans despite their huge Cebu presence. Americans and other Westerners (Germans, Australians and so on) are the mainstay of the business.
LT is P1500 to bar with P800 payable to girl. It is 'at girl's discretion' as to whether she accompanies a customer. While I was there the WGs stayed away and the alleged proprietor ('Liza') did not pressure me to stay or buy new drinks for the ladies or myself. This created a good impression.
Wicked Roger
03-26-08, 14:46
What does "dia" stand for?
Thanks guys.
Has any been to Club Temptation lately?
DIA = www.dateinasia.com
Temptations? If you mean that yes, see my FR of last week.
i've quoted 50 below, but first i have a note for my favorite antagonist av. your point is good, so why don't you expand on it? you seem like an inteligent guy, apparently spend a lot of time in philippines -- i don't get it! condescending one liners "simple", no pictures, no realistic field reports. maybe that's your style and i have to get used to it.
50, good point, she was 23 (not barely 18) but this girl really did like older, overweight and simple guys like me. kidding, but my comment about her intelligence may have been out of line. it may have been her first time in a taxi and was feeling nervous and wasn't thinking about the information i had given her. i suppose another problem is that pi is a texting society, so if you call and try to exchange info...well, they just might not be up to speed.
to be honest i gave her extra points for having freckles, but in the end she didn't hang around long. i already knew she had to work in the evening in mactan, but assumed she would go directly. she said she had to go home first for her uniform. maybe that was just an excuse....in which case i was happy to get rid of her and she was happy to get rid of me.
i gave her 200 pesos for r/t taxi as agreed upon. while waiting for her i chatted up two women, one who has her nice firm titties posted somewhere on isg, and the other who seemed to be taggin along to two older, unattractive women on the make. missed my chance on that.
x
they may lead simple lives, but imho most of the girls are not such simple people.
after all, we should take into account the fact that on the whole they can think, read, write, type and sms in english far better than most of us can even begin to utter tagalog or other mother tongues.
there are the other facts of life to consider too, ie what does drive a good looking barely 18 yr old girl to leave the safety of her family, travel to the city and consort sexually with generally (older, overweight) western guys in the first place - is it misfiring brain neutrons, or other stresses put upon her?
give em some slack, and they will keep on coming back !!
cheers, f/fifty
Wicked Roger
03-26-08, 14:54
Wow, WR, you use the same modus operandi as I do regarding chat strategy and meeting places -- although I never ask about shaved pussy. Why would anyone want to shave a cat?
X
I need a shaved cat....looks ugly on the animal but IMHO lovely on an 18 yr old :D
Good points you raise, I always give taxi fare, good way to show you are honest and good hearted (even if not with good intentions :)). And sometimes the cousin is cuter and worth a shag (instead of or as well)
I still don't get it. An 18 yr old shaved cat? You are Wicked, also a little sick.
I'll be honest, on two different occasions I had some serious attraction to the chaperone, not the initial target. In case 1 I fkd the target in the same bed as the chaperone..., but chaperone kept in touch longer than the target...and also expressed interest.
In case 2, the chaperone urged the shy target to stay while they took the bus 1hr back to town outside of Cebu. Target seemed ready to shit herself. I should have gotten a phone number from the chaperone.
I just assumed the jealous nature of the Filipina would make this an impossible and very risky proposition. In fact, thinking about it, the jeslous nature of the Filipina makes it risky, but doable.
So, great post WR, but what is it with your cat fetish?
X
I need a shaved cat....looks ugly on the animal but IMHO lovely on an 18 yr old :D
Good points you raise, I always give taxi fare, good way to show you are honest and good hearted (even if not with good intentions :)). And sometimes the cousin is cuter and worth a shag (instead of or as well)
Coincidently, I asked a question on ISG a year or so ago. It might have been on the "chat/pen pals" thread. I asked, "what do the women mean when they say that they are simple". I asked this question because many of the Filipina profiles mention that they are simple.
They lead simple lives Xman, you need to be sensitive to that.
AV
Coincidently, I asked a question on ISG a year or so ago. It might have been on the "chat/pen pals" thread. I asked, "what do the women mean when they say that they are simple". I asked this question because many of the Filipina profiles mention that they are simple.
Hi X,
One of the things that attracts us to the place & the people is also one of the biggest frustrations. We love their warm easy going personality's. But try to get a simple arrangement like be in place 'A' at time 'B' to happen & you get disappointed frequently. Living here means adapting to it or have a stroke trying to rage against it :)
Also don't forget we're complaining about the female of the species here... Men tend to be task oriented, western men even more so, mongers even more so again.
As an Ozzie Im a little less annoyed by it because we Ozzie's traditionally have been pretty laid back laconic lot, although we are seriously outclassed by people from the Phils I think.
The doctor or school teacher you may be talking to probably was born in a nipa hut, grew up climbing trees & riding carbao. She probably went to a school some distance from her home & when she got a job it was probably in a city a long way from her home. Due to lack of money their days revolve around family, friends & watching tv/surfing the net. They are not sophisticated but would we want them to be? Where else you gonna find willing sexual partners 18+?
Cheers
AV
Wicked Roger
03-26-08, 18:44
I still don't get it. An 18 yr old shaved cat? You are Wicked, also a little sick.
So, great post WR, but what is it with your cat fetish?
X
Am wicked and a little sick and a tad kinky...:D But I have fun
Chaperones can be a pain I agree but can be sexier than the target. I had one on a previous trip when the target was OK but would/could give up her cherry and her cousin who was very tasty was hot to trot so I took the better option (and still have her mobile)
Cunning Stunt
03-26-08, 19:58
The doctor or school teacher you may be talking to probably was born in a nipa hut, grew up climbing trees & riding carbao. She probably went to a school some distance from her home & when she got a job it was probably in a city a long way from her home. Due to lack of money their days revolve around family, friends & watching tv/surfing the net. They are not sophisticated but would we want them to be? Where else you gonna find willing sexual partners 18+?
Cheers,
AVHi AV,
Think that you exagerate the degree of upward social mobility that exists in present day Philippines. It still takes an awful lot of money in school fees to get a kid through medical school or into a similar profession (the much sought after public service careers are governed by nepotism and grease money). So most of the doctors or any other professional you meet will have had a decidedly middle class upbringing with enough family money (often from OFW contributions) to put them through long years of college. They will have seldom been near a nipa hut let alone gone to school on a carabao!
As to an average Filipina being 'simple', don't fucking believe it! Doing a rubic cube in a darkened room is easier than knowing what going on in their devious little minds. Think its a sprinkle of catholicism on a westernised veneer overlaid on a core that is a combination of mestizo and asiatic. Is it any wonder they are as neurotic and complex as they are. And we love them for it. Just don't try to understand them: D
GH
Hi AV .. As to an average Filipina being 'simple', don't fucking believe it! Doing a rubic cube in a darkened room is easier than knowing what going on in their devious little minds. Think its a sprinkle of catholicism on a westernised veneer overlaid on a core that is a combination of mestizo and asiatic. Is it any wonder they are as neurotic and complex as they are. And we love them for it. Just don't try to understand them: D
GH
Ahahahahahahaha :D
Man I love this post!
You made me laugh so hard!
Good one GH!!
AV
Previous reports have indicated difficulty in locating this bar.
I had a taxi driver who had not heard about it. We eventually located it, but there are three 'Cabahug' streets in Mandaue City.
The easy way to find it is to specify that you wish to travel to 'MANPARK' to the driver. Despite its name, 'MANPARK' is actually a cemetery. It is on F.B. Cabahug Street with Liza's being near the corner (almost directly opposite) the intersection with Jayme Street. It took about 30 minutes to reach from the centre of Cebu in moderate traffic.
I visited at 1700 on a weekday and having other things to do, merely stayed for one drink. There were about six girls in attendance, all of whom were at least a 5.
The bar has a good atmosphere and is relaxing, although at the time I was the only customer. 'Liza' explained that some Filipinos come, as do some Japanese, but rarely Koreans despite their huge Cebu presence. Americans and other Westerners (Germans, Australians and so on) are the mainstay of the business.
LT is P1500 to bar with P800 payable to girl. It is 'at girl's discretion' as to whether she accompanies a customer. While I was there the WGs stayed away and the alleged proprietor ('Liza') did not pressure me to stay or buy new drinks for the ladies or myself. This created a good impression.Yes , Manpark was mentioned in my directions 7th Jan (or thereabouts).
Reliable friend says 30/40 girls there. 5pm too early and better ones come later as they do not have to sit there long hours before being snapped up like the 5's have to. 6's and 7's do not start work at 5pm.
Suggest try 8pm and reckon you will find lots and significant number better than 5 rating that you came across earlier in the day.
Bilbo Baggins
03-29-08, 07:51
i found myself in cebu and stayed in a hotel/pension house near osmena blvd near the fuente roundabout and not far from robinson's mall. surprised at the number of foreigners i saw even had a nice blonde walk past me.
i went for a walk around sm mall but didnt like any lady that looked at me i didnt see anyone that was interesting to me next time i will stay longer.
i went to robinsons and walked around, pretty small compared to sm i didnt have any luck in catching the eye of any beauties so i walked out to the main entrance and stood watching the traffic go round in circles wondering what my next move would be.
a pretty girl came and stood next to me she was the same height as me and i remarked to her "i like your height" her, "yeh i'm taller than u" hmmmmm anyway she asked where i was going and i said back to my hotel want to come? she said ok and i suggested we walk there as it was around the corner. she wanted to catch a taxi and said many people watching so i shrugged and thought no one would think she was picking me up as it looked like we came out of the mall together and were waiting for a taxi anyway.
so i walked 50 feet down the stairs and got into the front seat of a taxi and looked back at her still on the top stairs then she walked down and got into the taxi. i watched while she did this and in my opinion everyone sitting around was watching this little scene, she would have been better off going back in with me and out the side door that has the walkway across the road and then no one would think about it, her way seemed more suspicious and obvious but its her wish.
while standing with her on the steps i did say i thought she might be a guy because of her height and she replied "i can prove it to you i will show you" hmmmmm nice i like inspections. when we got back to the hotel i found out she was a woman no modesty with her, maybe she has done this before?
we finally end up in bed naked and ready and she says something to me which flips a memory switch in my mind i forget her exact words, it was something like "do u want to romance me first?" it reminded me of someone else's post of a similar encounter and then she sucks me and i thought she expected me to do the same but i was having thoughts i was shagging some isg member's girlfriend and declined. besides she was shaved and i dont like them shaved. i like a little triangle of hair on that mound.
i just wanted to bang her i was tired of all the wooing i had been doing with non p4p ladies and its nice to just get down to the deed without the romancing so i just rode her until i was done and paid her to leave although she might have stayed longer. we did have a date for 10am the next day at bo's coffee in robinson's mall, she didnt show must have found her isg boyfriend.
later i went for a 2 hour thai massage, my first one, what a shock to the system! as i stumbled around afterwards in the small shop mall a pretty girl latched on to my arm promising me a good massage and all sorts of other activities i was flattered and had trouble keeping my eyes off her full breasts peeping through her blouse but because my small head was slow to wake up my big head was saying filipinas don't usually get this close to strangers and show affection like this immediately. she was hugging my arm and kissing my shoulder and flattering me. i did say to her how do i know you're a female? and she offered to prove it to me back in the hotel room, hmmmm
i wanted to stand back and appraise her but she wouldnt let go she kept asking me things and mentioned she was hungry so i decided to take her somewhere for dinner while i thought this through. i bought her a meal at mcdonalds and a coffee for me. now we had distance between us i could study her more thoroughly. as soon as i saw her hands i knew she started life as a male.
you can change a lot of things but you cant change your hands. if anyone has met filipinas you know how dainty their hands are and how slim their wrists are too. now i was feeling a little sick and i got up and said good bye and walked out of his/her life.
Wicked Roger
03-29-08, 11:45
besides she was shaved and i dont like them shaved. i like a little triangle of hair on that mound.
had trouble keeping my eyes off her full breasts peeping through her blouse but because my small head was slow to wake up my big head was saying filipinas don't usually get this close to strangers and show affection like this immediately. she was hugging my arm and kissing my shoulder and flattering me. i did say to her how do i know you're a female? and she offered to prove it to me back in the hotel room, hmmmm
as soon as i saw her hands i knew she started life as a male.
you can change a lot of things but you cant change your hands. if anyone has met filipinas you know how dainty their hands are and how slim their wrists are too. now i was feeling a little sick and i got up and said good bye and walked out of his/her life.
bb
not like them shaved :( well each to his own but perhaps you should meet ff and me..ff will make sure they are shaved before playtime :)
nice story re the lb or potential lb. the breasts a give away most of the time, hands i agree, and the adams apple
Hi all,
I am a longtime follower who used to contibute but had to change name as certain member s of my "family" caught up to me.
SO now I am headed back to Phils first time to Cebu and need a hotel where I can conduct interviews as I am starting a business there.
It needs to be central 3 star clean and friendly and GF to of course.
Also my time will be short there and I need some more advanced partners meaning bisexuals and would appreciatte if you could give me the heads up as I do not have the time to sercha nd test this trip.
Full FR to follow and will support further enquiries.
Pleae PM or respond here.
I will now upgrade my membership
JJ
...Think its a sprinkle of catholicism on a westernised veneer overlaid on a core that is a combination of mestizo and asiatic...GH
GH this got me to thinking about a question that I long wondered.. how much of the racial admixture in filippinas is due to Spanish genes?
Wikipedia claims : "A recent genetic study by Stanford University indicates that 3.6% of the population have European ancestries from Spanish and United States colonization' If you feel in the mood for some heavy reading look here ;- http://hpgl.stanford.edu/publications/AJHG_2001_v68_p432.pdf
Only 3.6%? I thought it would have been more than that.
AV
It was a Spanish Colony for 500 years, so of course 100% of the people are (somehow) descendants from King Filllip.
X
Only 3.6%? I thought it would have been more than that.
AV
Escort Fan
04-07-08, 13:15
Hello,
I'm in Cebu. I'm at the Marriot. Not sure it's a good choice. As it's far the from sea.
I would like to go relax by the seaside, Marriot offers a tour in boat, but it's like 5000 pesos +, that seems high.
What would you guys recommand to get a nice a tour of Cebu and enjoy the sea side without getting ripped off.
It needs to be central 3 star clean and friendly and GF to of course.
JJ
You can consider the Richmond Plaza hotel in Cebu City. I stayed there last Autumn and it was fine. It cost me 1500 pesos a night if I remember rightly, including a poor excuse for a breakfast, and the room was quite big. It's a short stroll from the Mango avenue bars and also the Ayala Centre, so the location is perfect. 100% GF too.
I've heard good things about Richmond, but never stayed there. A few other popular places below...
You can consider the Richmond Plaza hotel in Cebu City. I stayed there last Autumn and it was fine. It cost me 1500 pesos a night if I remember rightly, including a poor excuse for a breakfast, and the room was quite big. It's a short stroll from the Mango avenue bars and also the Ayala Centre, so the location is perfect. 100% GF too.
Cebu Hotels area code 032 (last update 12.07)
West Gorordo maybe not guest friendly, close to Ayala Mall. Dont get the suites / Best rooms are deluxe, 4th floor with balcony overlooking the street/alley which has interesting foot traffic. http://www.westgorordohotel.com/
Mango Park Hotel, 032 233 1511 / 233 5679
07.07 paid 1350
Northwinds Hotel – past Waterfront / cheap
233 0311-13
Crowne Garden Hotel on Salinas St. 1300 incl breakfast
Waterfront, nice pool, check out H2O club 232 6888 $100 / 4475 pesos
Richmond Plaza Hotel, 232-4613 (-18) richmondhotelcebu@yahoo.com
Lahug on gororodo, facelift for ASEAN summit 2006 http://www.richmondhotelcebu.com/
Castle Peak Hotel http://www.castlepeakhotel.net/
Cebu Grand Hotel, near Capital 1600 to 4200 / roof pool / 254 6331 / 6361/ 6362 info@cebugrandhotel.com www.cebugrandhotel.com
Cebu Midtown Hotel 63 32 253-9711 P2500 12.07
GV Tower Hotel (downtown) www.gvhotelgroup.com info@gvhotelgroup.com 416-0000 / 253-6518
Hotel de Mercedes 253 1105 hoteldemercedes.com
Rajah Park Hotel (032) 412 3337 / 412 4850 Some rooms no windows. Rates start at 1500, incl breakfast
Holiday Plaza (032) 254 9880 holiday@holidayplazacebu.com
www.holidayplazacebu.com Superior 1900 / Biz class 2300 / Exec 3300 good buffet breakfast included
Hotel le Carmen, near net café, 255 6366/67 P1000 to 1450 large room is better
Diplomat Hotel, 90 F. Ramos Street 032 253 0099 diplomathotel@yahoo.com
prices 1200- 2,500 (suite in new wing), clean, some rooms have nice views
Tends to have a lot of Korean language students / very hard to book a room usually, but sometimes high season the Koreans go home for holiday and rooms are available.
www.diplomathotel.com.ph
Notanocker
04-08-08, 13:25
Scribe and X Man, I recently stayed at the Parklane International (18 months old: excellent breakfast), about P3200 - P3900 depending on room. Avoid the side where a new hotel is being built across the road. Four minutes' walk to Ayala Centre for good shopping.
Many beach resorts on Mactan island. For 5k you could take a lady or two with you....make sure they have proper swimsuits or they might not be allowed in the pool.
Sorry if this is interpreted as caustic, but how in hell could you end up at some hotel and only then realize it's "far from the sea"? I could almost understand if you were staying at the misnamed Waterfront Hotel, but...
X
Hello,
I'm in Cebu. I'm at the Marriot. Not sure it's a good choice. As it's far the from sea.
I would like to go relax by the seaside, Marriot offers a tour in boat, but it's like 5000 pesos +, that seems high.
What would you guys recommand to get a nice a tour of Cebu and enjoy the sea side without getting ripped off.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Escort Fan
Hello,
I'm in Cebu. I'm at the Marriot. Not sure it's a good choice. As it's far the from sea.
I would like to go relax by the seaside, Marriot offers a tour in boat, but it's like 5000 pesos +, that seems high.
What would you guys recommand to get a nice a tour of Cebu and enjoy the sea side without getting ripped off.
A new hotel has opened on Mactan Island. It has three pools is nice and clean. You can choose between one or two bed room suites. Prices are 3 - 4 k
http://www.sotograndehotelresort.ph
HornyGeorge
04-08-08, 23:00
NEVER take tours from upscale hotels. 5000 for a banca ride off Mactan? You must be joking. Charter a banca for the full day to Olango for half that.
Better yet, Shangri La Hotel will be only $50 or so more tahn the Marriott so why not switch hotels?
Mango Park is a DUMP. Great location for mongering, but Eddie's is better value and nicer. Midtown is not much more expensive and SEVERAL steps up in quality.
Escort Fan
04-08-08, 23:04
Many beach resorts on Mactan island. For 5k you could take a lady or two with you....make sure they have proper swimsuits or they might not be allowed in the pool.
Sorry if this is interpreted as caustic, but how in hell could you end up at some hotel and only then realize it's "far from the sea"? I could almost understand if you were staying at the misnamed Waterfront Hotel, but...
XWell I didn't do my homework. And was confused by the fact it's called Marriott resort!
Wow, refreshing when someone accepts a little criticism and doesn't have a hissy fit! Ha, ha...
I can out do you though! In 1990 I was flying from Seoul to Manila. I struck up a conversation with my seat mate who was a mid-aged Filipina coming back from a conference. She said her driver would pick her up and would I like a ride to my hotel. Yes, please.
But I didn't have a hotel so I opened my Lonely Planet to Ermita "cheap" section and gave her a hotel name. When the car pulled up she said in a strange voice, "Is this it?". It was a dumpy looking building with a gay bar on the ground floor. I was just a bit EMBARRASSED!
We all make mistakes.
X
Well I didn't do my homework. And was confused by the fact it's called Marriott resort!
Noticed you did not mention "Eddies Hotel" on F. Manalo St. - about 1480-2100 depending on the room.
Did not go there for a while, got a bad room once. Tried it last week and was pleasantly surprised. Paid 1850 for a fairly nice sized room. Restaurant was also ok.
I've heard good things about Richmond, but never stayed there. A few other popular places below...
Cebu Hotels area code 032 (last update 12.07)
West Gorordo maybe not guest friendly, close to Ayala Mall. Dont get the suites / Best rooms are deluxe, 4th floor with balcony overlooking the street/alley which has interesting foot traffic. http://www.westgorordohotel.com/
Mango Park Hotel, 032 233 1511 / 233 5679
07.07 paid 1350
Northwinds Hotel – past Waterfront / cheap
233 0311-13
Crowne Garden Hotel on Salinas St. 1300 incl breakfast
Waterfront, nice pool, check out H2O club 232 6888 $100 / 4475 pesos
Richmond Plaza Hotel, 232-4613 (-18) richmondhotelcebu@yahoo.com
Lahug on gororodo, facelift for ASEAN summit 2006 http://www.richmondhotelcebu.com/
Castle Peak Hotel http://www.castlepeakhotel.net/
Cebu Grand Hotel, near Capital 1600 to 4200 / roof pool / 254 6331 / 6361/ 6362 info@cebugrandhotel.com www.cebugrandhotel.com
Cebu Midtown Hotel 63 32 253-9711 P2500 12.07
GV Tower Hotel (downtown) www.gvhotelgroup.com info@gvhotelgroup.com 416-0000 / 253-6518
Hotel de Mercedes 253 1105 hoteldemercedes.com
Rajah Park Hotel (032) 412 3337 / 412 4850 Some rooms no windows. Rates start at 1500, incl breakfast
Holiday Plaza (032) 254 9880 holiday@holidayplazacebu.com
www.holidayplazacebu.com Superior 1900 / Biz class 2300 / Exec 3300 good buffet breakfast included
Hotel le Carmen, near net café, 255 6366/67 P1000 to 1450 large room is better
Diplomat Hotel, 90 F. Ramos Street 032 253 0099 diplomathotel@yahoo.com
prices 1200- 2,500 (suite in new wing), clean, some rooms have nice views
Tends to have a lot of Korean language students / very hard to book a room usually, but sometimes high season the Koreans go home for holiday and rooms are available.
www.diplomathotel.com.ph
Escort Fan
04-12-08, 14:09
I have visited the notorious Arena club from Cebu. This club is in the middle of some kind of favellas. Actually that’s the odd part in Cebu, luxury places are just a few yards from favellas. Walk a few meters away from Ayala Shopping Mall and you’ll understand.
Anyway not problem to go to Arena as cabbies are so cheap. If you’re on a resort on Mactan island you’ll have at least a 30 minutes taxi ride to get there. More at rush hours.
Arena is located is downtown Cebu.
The place is aimed at Koreans & Japanese customers. I was the only "farang" (not sure how you call farang in phillipino.) anyway I felt neglected. Nobody came to me. I was a bit frustrated cause on the stage some gorgeous girls kept coming!
The line up at Arena is light years ahead of Angeles City. All girls are 7+ and there are a few gems.
I spoke to the mamas an who arranged a line up for me. I got a pretty girl who speak descent English and told me she also spoke Korean and Japanese. Quite impressive.
In Arena you need to pay for the social time. Drink for girls are 600 or 1200 pesos depending on the drink type, and you also need to buy one drink for the mamasan.
After two scial times drink (you need to pay one every hour) I wanted to "take out" my girls. The fee (barfine + girls fee is 7000 pesos after negociation I could get it down to 6500 pesos, but it didn’t seems possible to get it lower).
Damn with the ladies drink, my drink the bill was exceeding 10, 000 pesos. Plus my girl said she has menstruation! Not sure if it’s true. But it’s nice to see a club where the girls can actually decline a client if they want to. Also unlike Angeles City Arena is a safe sex club, as there is a condom brand sponsor who has advertising on the wall.
So my girl got me a friend of hers. Less beautiful. But I decided to barfine her as she has very big boobs for a Phillipino girl! Back to the hotel, I had a rather poor service. CBJ, no DFK, very passive girl.
I wouldn’t say this place is a rip off, because there are really beauties in their line up. But 10K Pesos to play Russian roulette and hope the girl delivers once she’s in the room is a high price to pay!
I would recommand you to go at least once there is you're in Cebu, but (on the frist night at least) don't pick up a girl and try to see how things works there. Or pick up if you're loaded. Up to you!
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Hi EF!, thanks for sharing this info & please forgive my summarisation,
I visited the notorious Arena club from Cebu...
...The place is aimed at Koreans & Japanese customers....
...The barfine + girls fee is 7000 pesos after negociation I could get it down to 6500 pesos...
...my drink the bill was exceeding 10, 000 pesos. ...
...my girl said she has menstruation so my girl got me a friend of hers. Less beautiful...
...Back to the hotel, I had a rather poor service. CBJ, no DFK, very passive girl.
You paid P16,500+ to root an average looking starfish??
I'll put it on my list of places to avoid thanks!!
Geez even back home in my 'expensive' homeland, for that kind of money ($450-$500 AU) I could get a very nice looking girl with a good attitude.
When you said "The place is aimed at Koreans & Japanese customers" I really didn't need to read any further. :( They are rapidly destroying the market. For a long time now the 'A' grade pussy has been for east asian consumption only. Us Westerners get the left overs.. Its even going that way in AC. Try walking into the big AC bars that cater to east asians & see how you are ignored.
AV
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Escort Fan
04-13-08, 13:06
Hi EF!, thanks for sharing this info & please forgive my summarisation,
You paid P16,500+ to root an average looking starfish?
I'll put it on my list of places to avoid thanks!!
Geez even back home in my 'expensive' homeland, for that kind of money ($450-$500 AU) I could get a very nice looking girl with a good attitude.
When you said "The place is aimed at Koreans & Japanese customers" I really didn't need to read any further. :( They are rapidly destroying the market. For a long time now the 'A' grade pussy has been for east asian consumption only. Us Westerners get the left overs.. Its even going that way in AC. Try walking into the big AC bars that cater to east asians & see how you are ignored.
AVHumm no I paid overall 10K pesos. Which is 150 euros for an evening in a KTV which has a nice show, (seeing all those beauties was quite entertaining) plus an overnight with a lady from the club.
So I didn't spend 500 AUD, but "only" 250
Keep in mind in mainland europe one hour with an escort is 250-300 euros 150 or 200 GBP, and an overnight is about 1500 euros or 1100 GBP.
So it's not really "that" expensive.
Gotta enjoy the holidays
Yes I kinda got ripped off with the average girl, but I didn't protest my fault.
Honnestly don't avoid the place, just go and have a drink, it won't cost you much, like 300 for your drink, couple of ladies drink, for 2000 PESOS (30 euros) you can have an evening at the club and 2 social times!
Honnestly I haven't see any girl in AC coming close to the girls I saw at the Arena club.
Humm no I paid overall 10K pesos.
Gotta enjoy the holidays
Honestly don't avoid the place, just go and have a drink, it won't cost you much, like 300 for your drink, couple of ladies drink, for 2000 PESOS (30 euros) you can have an evening at the club and 2 social times!
Honestly I haven't see any girl in AC coming close to the girls I saw at the Arena club.Ok EF, sorry my maths is a little off when im sitting here drinking cold beer with the laptop beside the pool. ;)
Im trying to organise a sneaky trip to Cebu soon coz I have so many lovely contacts there that badly need servicing, so I'll stop in to this club for a pleasant surprise. I can fondly remember the first time I walked into one of the Makati bars as a newbie & walking out an half an hour later with an P11,000 bill so its not so bad I guess. ;)
Enjoy your holiday EF!!
AV
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thank you escort fan for the review, this thread needs more fr and less commentary. btw, arena is located in the reclamation area near the port of cebu. since you were kind enough to post about arena, i will now do a review on jaguar, which is long overdue.
first visit
one of my chatmates' teenage neighbors worked at this club so this piqued my interest in making an appearance. located in banilad, it is fairly easy to find. arrived around 10:00 pm with my chatmate along with a member of this board and his gf. the place was in full swing with the usual groups of chaperoned japanese. there was also a group of us servicemen on leave and a few other couples rep001tered about.
we were charged a 200 php entrance fee each which was put on our tab. there is also a two drink minimum. we were offered a vip room since they were having a special which included a girl for 1200 php per hour consumable. the girls ordered juices and we got some beers which were reasonable in price. sat back on their comfortable leather couches and proceeded to watch the show which consisted of one or two girls dancing at one time in various stages of undress. not sure if every girl got her turn on stage but never saw a repeat performance. the stage is massive taking up half the floor space. on stage left was a den of stuffed jaguars masquerading as tigers! when we tried to cash out, it took over 20 minutes but the bill was in order.
second visit
this time i visited alone and arrived at 8:30 on a friday night only to be the second customer. sat at the bar and tried to strike up a conversation with one of the mamasans who seemed busy getting ready for the evening slapping on some make-up. the fishbowl area was virtually empty so i just sat back and waited until things got going. three korean couples walked in along with more customers.
tried to determine which girl was into me so i motioned one over and we sat down near the stage. you need to order a ld while she is sitting with you and one for her mamasan which was nothing more than two jiggers of juice. this yielded good results because it was very easy for me to get the phone numbers of her and her friend who sat down with us after her performance. went to the cr only to find an overly friendly attendant who was looking for a tip but had a nice spread of colognes and stying products for use not unlike other high end clubs in north america. for those interested, the bf prices were 4, 5, and 6 thousand depending on the quality of the girl.
here are a few photos from the club. sorry for the bad quality but i was not using a flash because i did not want to draw attention to myself. one of the girls in the photo set is the one that gave me her cp number for some extracurricular activities and she is a keeper!
Altered Ego
04-19-08, 14:51
Sorry to bother you guys, but I’m currently planning my first trip to Cebu and would very much appreciate some expert, up-to-date advice from those who are ‘in the know’ - and yes, I’ve tried reading the forum, but my problem is I’m only going to be in town for a very short time, so I’m looking for help in planning the ‘perfect’ 3-day trip!
I’ll be arrving in Cebu in May and I am looking to plan an itinerary for Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights. I realise that these are not traditionally the best nights of the week to look for ‘nightlife’, so if anybody can suggest which bars have the best array of ‘talent’ on each of these nights, I would be very grateful.
OK, here we go with the questions:
1. From what I’ve read on the forum, it sounds like my first stop might be the Mango Street bars – the names I’ve come across are Exotica, Dimples, Papillons, Black Hole, Viking, Californian, BG Bar, Asian Flowers, Sisters (are these names all correct?).
2. Secondly, the Silver Dollar gets namechecked regularly in the forum – is this still worth a visit?
3. Pump 1 and Sunflower get mentioned as places to find freelancers. Are these worth visiting on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights?
4. How about FatZoe's bar in Paseo? Is it worth a look? Or do you need to be ‘young and goodlooking’ to go here (sadly, I am neither)?
5. I also came across a couple of recommendations for the ‘International Bar Complex’ - am I right in thinking that this has only got two bars? Are they worth visiting?
6. What time do the bars usually open and close on Sunday/Monday/Tuesday? Are there any bars that open in the daytime or early in the afternoon? (I’ve seen quite a lot of advice about finding ‘normal’ girls in malls, etc, but as I said before, I don’t have a lot of time.)
7. Are there any massage places in Cebu similar to Air Force 1 in Manila? If not, is there any visiting massage outfits that provide such a service?
8. If I can’t find the required ‘quality’ at any of the above places, I was thinking I might visit Arena – from what I have read, it is expensive but appears to get the vote over Jaguar – is that true?
9. Are there any ‘must see’ venues that I haven’t mentioned above?
10. I’m thinking of staying at the Marco Polo. I know it’s expensive, but apart from that, do you think it’s a good choice (e.g. are the rooms alright and is the location OK?). If not, which hotel do you think is the best ‘all round’ contender?
All comments and suggestions gratefully received. Many thanks in advance.
Regards
Altered Ego
PS If anybody is going to be around in Cebu in May, and would like to join me for a beer then please feel free to PM me!
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Fifty Fifty
04-20-08, 08:14
1. From what I’ve read on the forum, it sounds like my first stop might be the Mango Street bars – the names I’ve come across are Exotica, Dimples, Papillons, Black Hole, Viking, Californian, BG Bar, Asian Flowers, Sisters (are these names all correct?). ]
Agreed it would be a good place to start - All bars close together, similar theme, similar prices. I was there 6 weeks ago and didnt need to venture further to find ideal pussy.
2. Secondly, the Silver Dollar gets namechecked regularly in the forum – is this still worth a visit?]
In a word - NO, but thats only my opinion.
Its cheap, you dont get hassled for drinks etc, but the ''Fare'' on offer is mediocre.
I dont have valid answers for your other questions, but you could try here:
http://www.cebuclubreviews.com/cebu_clubs_bars_home.htm
One question of my own - How the hell did this Post make the ROD Recommendation, it isnt even a Report???
Cheers, F/Fifty
Altered Ego
04-20-08, 09:34
Agreed [Mango Ave] would be a good place to start - All bars close together, similar theme, similar prices. I was there 6 weeks ago and didnt need to venture further to find ideal pussy.Thanks a lot Fifty Fifty, sounds like I'll start in Mango Avenue. Anybody know what the atmosphere is like in these bars on Sun/Mon/Tuesday nights? What is the best time to go?
I dont have valid answers for your other questions, but you could try here:
http://www.cebuclubreviews.com/cebu_clubs_bars_home.htm
Thanks again Fifty Fifty. However I would still prefer up-to-date, informed opinions from ISG members (you guys always have the best information!).
One question of my own - How the hell did this Post make the ROD Recommendation, it isnt even a Report???My understanding is that the recommendation message is automatically printed at the bottom of very long posts.
If anybody else would like to offer their opinion of how to plan a 'perfect' 3-day trip to Cebu, it would be very much appreciated!
Regards
Altered Ego
One question of my own - How the hell did this Post make the ROD Recommendation, it isnt even a Report???
Cheers, F/FiftyBuggered if I know.. I was thinking the same thing.
AV
AussieOverboard
04-20-08, 14:11
Buggered if I know.. I was thinking the same thing.
AVI think both Amavida and 50/50's response should be considered for the reports of distinction.
Fifty Fifty
04-21-08, 06:00
My understanding is that the recommendation message is automatically printed at the bottom of very long posts.
No that doesn't work - I have posted some particularly long reports in the past and not got the ROD Recommendation.
The way I see it is - All newbies and regular members who write anything more than a bus number get the auto ROD Recommendation presumably to encourage them to write more.
Remembering my first ten reports, I think nine of them made the ROD Recommendation, since then only the ones that are actually recommended by other members have made it, so it is Automatic?
If anybody else would like to offer their opinion of how to plan a 'perfect' 3-day trip to Cebu, it would be very much appreciated!
Ok back to the point - Perfect Trip?
First thing RTFF for up to date info on status of bars etc.
1) Stay in a nice GF hotel ($100) per night or more will usually do.
2) Have a reasonably good supply of cash ($100+ per day).
3) Line up one or two CB/DIA Girls in advance, but beware as they can be time consuming and often not give up the goodies so easily.
4) Get a Globe or Smart Sim Card on arrival (assuming your cellphone is unlocked) and tout the number as much as you can, although getting yourself a T-shirt with it printed on may be going a bit too far ;)
5) Visit Shopping Malls (SM is the best), sit in Coffee Shops and smile at passing girls, works every time.
6) Relax (sleep) in the early evening, then go out hunting around 10 pm, Mango St bars are a good start. Dont fuck about sitting and drinking beer too much, use the seek and destroy tactics and be on your way back to your hotel with your chosen babe before midnight if you can.
7) If you get a good girl on the first day, you may be tempted to keep her for the duration of your stay. Unless she is a total 10, dont do it. You will always see others and regret you didnt try them too.
8) Wake up next day and do it all again and again.
Enjoy, F/Fifty
50 has already given you enough info to proceed - I'll add a few things, but things don't really start to click until you get your feet on the ground.
Mango bars open at 8pm, Silver Dollar is open earlier (4pm?) and maybe a ten or 15 min walk from Mango. But temperatures are high this time of year, so you might be more inclined to take a taxi. S Dollar doesn't usually have great quality, but it has a laid back feel, and things sometimes get weird and naughty. There is a very short, big-breasted bartender that seems to have too much attitude. I was there on the owner's b-day. He got himself blindfolded and had the staff give him lip service (in the back room). Whoever did best got a prize. I've paid a few barfines over the years and scored a freebie with a bartender on New Yr. eve.
There are also a couple places right across from Holiday Plaza Hotel on Ramos Ave. / around the corner from Midtown Hotel. I haven't been in either for a couple of years, but they might be a better bet than checking out the more distant placesj since you have limited time.
I never go to Sunflower or Paseo unless I have a date or plan to meet up with a friend. Considering your short trip, give them a miss - especially so early in the week. As for your looks and age, you need to get over that complex real quick.
You mentioned the "international complex" which is next to the convention center. You'll probably pass these places on your way from the airport - assuming you'll stay in Cebu city, rather than Mactan. If you aren't happy with Mango bars, go there. We need someone to give another review! If you do a late afternoon at SM and don't get propositioned, go there. But I have no idea what to tell the taxi driver. If "international complex" doesn't work, ask for the "bars next to the convention center".
Agree with 50 that SM is best for freelancers, but seemed to be several cute ones in Robinsons Midtown back in Dec (maybe just for high season).
If you find something you like, encourage her to stay for breakfast or lunch...let her take you to some of the Cebu attractions.
X
[QUOTE=Altered Ego]Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights.
1. From what I’ve read on the forum, it sounds like my first stop might be the Mango Street bars – the names I’ve come across are Exotica, Dimples, Papillons, Black Hole, Viking, Californian, BG Bar, Asian Flowers, Sisters (are these names all correct?).
2. Secondly, the Silver Dollar gets namechecked regularly in the forum – is this still worth a visit?
3. Pump 1 and Sunflower get mentioned as places to find freelancers. Are these worth visiting on Sunday, Monday and Tuesday nights?
4. How about FatZoe's bar in Paseo? Is it worth a look? Or do you need to be ‘young and goodlooking’ to go here (sadly, I am neither)?
5. I also came across a couple of recommendations for the ‘International Bar Complex’ - am I right in thinking that this has only got two bars? Are they worth visiting?
6. What time do the bars usually open and close on Sunday/Monday/Tuesday? Are there any bars that open in the daytime or early in the afternoon? (I’ve seen quite a lot of advice about finding ‘normal’ girls in malls, etc, but as I said before, I don’t have a lot of time.)
QUOTE]
Fifty Fifty
04-21-08, 15:12
Agree with 50 that SM is best for freelancers, but seemed to be several cute ones in Robinsons Midtown back in Dec (maybe just for high season). .
Agreed some cuties in Robinsons too and easy to make contact there.
Just sit at BO's Coffee Shop facing the entrance and scoop em up off the bench opposite or smile as they pass, it worked well for me a couple months ago. There is a greater chioce at SM though so quality is better if you are looking for a 7+ for free (who isnt??)
If you find something you like, encourage her to stay for breakfast or lunch...let her take you to some of the Cebu attractions.
Yes that usually works too, hungry little things those LBFM's, they will almost always say yes to a free meal or a trip out and about.
Dont get trapped though, dump her in the evening and get another if variety is your style.
Standard Rules Apply : ExPat = Money = Fun
Just for the record I found Cebu a very safe place to be, reasonable Taxi Drivers and no real problems encountered.
However, there is a clique amongst the bar Girls of Vikings, BG, Eric the Red etc involving them having Minders (usually ladyBoys) who can exercise a bit of Control now and then. I stayed until closing one night and witnessed the girls in BG getting paid their LadyDrink Money and the (Lady)boyfriends on hand for their cut too. Actually we were drunk and didnt realise the time and things got a bit dodgy so we jumped a Taxi and left PDQ.
Often a Bar Girl will not be allowed to stay all day with you as she may have to ''serve'' the (Lady)boyfriend at some stage too, then there will be work again next evening.
If you do keep a bargirl day and night, you need to understand her night off work to stay with you will probably cost her at least the equivalent in a Barfine as a Penalty. This system is designed to stop them getting a good guy and disappearing for days on end, so be generous if she does stay.
If all else fails the McDs near to Regency Towers on Osmena is open 24 hours. You can often pick up a girl there after 4 am, she may be on her way home and stop to spend some of her ''just earned'' cash. Beware cos she could be as greasy or smelly as the hamburgers are ;) hence the need for having a good hotel with a nice hot shower 24/7 :)
Cheers. F/Fifty
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