Davao

[Yella Man]

Flew into Davao from Manila on New Years Day. It sucked being in the air on the 31st, but the payoff once I had arrived was worth it. My ticket on a Cebu Pacific flight cost around P2500...my excess baggage fee was over twice that at P5500! Got in after 6PM, went to the Marco to check in, cracked my bottle of Grey Goose, had a shower, and took a taxi to Plaza Roman. I was too tired to mess with any of my Chat contacts. Dealing with them can be a long and laborious process when your trying to set something up. Plaza Roman was closed, probably due to the holiday. Taxi driver suggested Hot Legs so I went.

Hot Legs is a hole in the wall with about twelve girls dancing. They was a Shower Show going on when I got there. Funny thing is it looked exactly like two girls taking a shower at home! There was nothing sexy about how they where scrubbing there legs. I barely payed attention to it. A couple of girls sat down next too me. Both of them 6's on my scale. Very doable! Small and slim just like I like them. Chatted them up a bit to feel them out. They in turn went immediately for the kill by asking me to buy LD's. I wasn't feeling the love so I told them that I was looking for a girl who really liked to fuck and is not shy at all. I told them that's the girl I'm going to buy a drink for. It was funny to see the expression on their faces, but they shouted to another girl and called her over. Short Slim and about a 7 in looks. Bought her a LD (P300 or so), Chatted her up and was liking her attitude, so I payed her barfine and went back to the Marco. The rest is just about sex and not interesting at all so no need to cover that here....hahaha! Goood damn sex! Will I see her again? Probably on her day off.

GE and X I'm diving during the day, but I'd like to share a few drinks and stories with you guys before I leave. Just PM me.

YM

[Yella Man]

So I get off the dive boat and turn my phone on. It blows up with texts immediately so I page thru them trying to put the numbers to faces. One chat-mate from DIA tells me she wants to meet me, but she's says she is shy, so she wants me to meet her sister instead. Hmmmm... We dance around her sisters statistics a bit and then agree on a C2C chat on Yahoo Messenger so I can see her before we meet.

Back at the hotel I logon to the internet using my Smart Bro internet USB modem. I paid around p1200 for it at a phone shop in Gaisano Mall. Well worth the price because Marco Polo charges p581 for 24hrs of service. The Smart Bro, after purchase price, charges me p10 for 30 minutes of use. The connection is slow at times but it gets the job done. So anyway I fire up the YM, add her sister to my contacts and begin chatting with her. She pops up on Cam and didn't look half bad so I decided to do her.

I invited her to the Marco for dinner, which we had at the lounge near the pool. I ordered a very strong Long Island Ice Tea mixed drink for her which really took down her defenses and made her like putty in my hands. A few photos by the pool to further relax her and then off to my room for some decent sex. I say decent because although girl #2 had a great personality, she just didn't do it for me in bed like girl #1 did the first night. Her attempt at a BBBJ was basically a cleaning of the surface of my penis with her tongue. She could barely get an inch or so in her mouth. She wasn't a kisser either. Kissing is very important to me. It helps set the mood. Trying to pry her legs apart for some DATY was tough when she kept my head in a scissor lock the whole time. Eventually she relaxed and finally had an orgasm. She had no problems with my size when we started the fucking part of the evening….that part was ok...actually pretty good. I gave her some chocolate and p1500 the next morning and showed her the door. I’ll continue to text her younger sister to see if I can talk her into meeting me. No diving today…hmmmm What’s a man to do with his time? :)

YM

[Yella Man]

Day 4 was spent running around Gaisano Mall not looking for a pickup, but booking my next stop to CDO at Cebu Pacific and taking care of mobile phone issues. Contacted GE and setup a dinner meet. He suggested Buona Terra on Torres St because they have such good Crepes (does GE have a sweet-tooth?). Met him and his better half at around 7pm and from one look at her I do believe Mr. GE has a sweet-tooth!

I’m always apprehensive when meeting people from this board because there are some real winners out there. People whom I wouldn’t even let walk my dog, but GE is quite the gentleman and his friend was adorable. I enjoyed dinner with the two of them.

After dinner I Took a taxi over to Rizal St. to have a glass of wine at a place called De Bonte Koe at GE’s recommendation. They were out of Reisling so I had a glass of their house wine. Surprisingly good! The owner Henny (I think) told me the crisp flavor of the red wine comes from his sweaty feet. His words, not mine. I’m sure he was pulling my leg.

I rolled out of there and hit a few bars in the Auto Shop area. Pretty dead, but it was Monday night, So off two Hot Legs II I went. This Hot Legs is even more of a whole-in-the-wall than the last one I went to. It was dank. I think the word dank describes it best. The girl crowded me as soon as I walked in and sat down. They wasted no time in asking me for LD’s. I told I had to look around and pick a girl first.

There was nude dancing…totally nude dancing on stage which surprised me because I have never seen that in the Philippines during any of my many trips here. I even saw the girls come off stage and straddle a few customers in the buff! Interesting!

There were about 15-20 girls in the place. Lots of 6’s and 7’s, but only one girl caught my eye. She was as skinny as a rail and cute as hell. I knew immediately I was taking her home. I called her over, ordered a LD and another Gin and Tonic and chatted up my new friend. P2500 (BF) later she was back at my hotel room providing me with some of the best sex I have had in the Philippines in a long time. Or maybe I have been away too long? Whatever the case, girl #3 was a keeper….in the bedroom sense of the word.

My alarm rang too soon it seemed, waking us both up. Is it time to dive already? Every time I visit this country I forget to schedule in sleep. Chasing women and drinking all night, diving during the day, going to the gym and exercising, and sleeping very little. It’s killing me! Giving me a very enjoyable slow death, but I can’t think of a better way to go. I’m dead tired already and it’s only going into day 5. Anyway, I exchange digits with girl #3, tip her p1000, and show her to the door with each of us promising to text one another.

YM

[Yella Man]

I got off the Dive boat around 3PM and decided I needed a nap before going out that night. The nap never happened. I got caught up replying to emails and stuff and by the time I ordered dinner and had a shower, it was after 7PM. Time to hit the streets.

It’s Tuesday night so there’s not a lot going on in regular bars and pubs so I decided to use this night to check out a few more places. First stop, Apollo on F Inigo Blvd. The place is a shit hole! All the girls I saw were bottom rung type in quality. Don’t bother with this place.

Next stop Starrett Night Club, also on F Innigo Blvd. A more appropriate name would have been Starrett Night Mare! Girls had a sleazy quality to them, and the bar had no liquor. Not even one bottle of Tanduay! Stay away!

On the same street not far away is Hot Legs III. I walked in and ordered a drink. There were 15 or so girls all in the 4-6 range in looks. More chubsters than in the other two Hot Legs I visited. The girls are very friendly, as fat girls often are. They were constantly around me boxing me in on the couch. No skinny spinners there so I left.

I decided to go to Hot Legs 1 on Palma Gil St. not far from the Marco Polo Hotel, and directly across the street from the Madayan (spelling?) Hotel. This Hot Legs has by far the best looking girls out all the places I have visited so far in Davao. Same moderate pressure for LD’s from the girls, and they try to up sell the VIP room which is P1500. I order a gin and tonic and fend off the girls until I get a chance to perouse through the twenty or so girls there. The shower show is much better here. At least the girls sexed it up a bit more as they showered, giving us men in the audience a better visual fantasy by mock licking and sucking, smiling, and slowly and playfully washing themselves and each other.

I called a short little spinner over and chat her up to get a sense of her. She had to be no more than 4’ 7” and weighed 85lbs if you spit on her. My type of women! She was a little concerned with my size, but she had a great attitude and was willing give me a try. P2500 BF and back to the hotel room we go.

The drawback with the type of women I like, meaning small, is they usually have small mouths as well, so getting a good BJ is hard…no pun intended. Girl #4 was no exception to this problem. An “A” for effort though. The sex was good. Not as good as girl #1 or 3, but somewhere in between I guess. I did have to slap on shit load of lube to finish the job. I don’t think girl #4 will text me back for another meet. It was a little rough for her.

YM

[FreebieFan]

Every time I visit this country I forget to schedule in sleep. Chasing women and drinking all night, and sleeping very little. It's killing me! Giving me a very enjoyable slow death, but I can't think of a better way to go. I'm dead tired already

YMI know exactly what you mean. I keep meaning to do it better " next trip" but never seem to manage it.

[Member #4491]

I am in Davao during the last week of January.

Barba

[X Man]

Just got back to home base myself and slept 14 hours. I didn't even unpack. Sorry I missed you in Davao.

Also, Cuba tourist, your mailbox is full. X



I know exactly what you mean. I keep meaning to do it better " next trip" but never seem to manage it.

[Yella Man]

I received a very typical text asking me “how I am?”, and “what are you doing?” from girl #3 from Hot Legs on San Pedro St. I sent her a text back saying, “I’m waiting for you.” She replied by saying, “I’ll be right there.”

We had lunch at Café Marco. A buffet that wasn’t half bad. Girl #3 weighs about 85lbs so she nibbled on her food like a rabbit. We talked about this and that. I asked her how much her salary was at Hot Legs. P300 a week. She said she works seven days a week, and if she misses a day and doesn’t have a doctor’s note excusing her from work, she has to pay the club P5000 if she missed a weekday, and P10, 000 if she missed a weekend. I’m not the brightest person in the world, but if you multiply her weekly salary by four, she only makes P9000 a month, not including LD’s and BF’s. If she misses work one day on the weekend, she could end up owing the club P1000. Talk about indentured servitude!

After it was apparent she wasn’t going to eat much, I asked her if she was ready to go to my room and make mad passionate love. She simply said, “oh oh”, meaning yes. I love it when they say that. It sounds so sexy.

Girl #3 is amazing in bed! I think I’m sprung! For her size she really knows how to take care of business. We fucked and sucked like teenagers for an hour or so, and then snuggled together and fell asleep until she had to go to work. I gave her P1500 and told her to text me when she gets off work at 2 or 3AM.

So I was free for the evening. I showered and took a taxi to a place called Joke on Torres St. It was mainly a Filipino bar that had beautiful waitresses who would do a group dance on stage several times a night. People from the audience would go on stage and sing Karaoke, and the DJ would occasionally play dance music for people to dance to. I think there was stand-up comedy as well, but it was in Tagalog or Visayan so I couldn’t understand much of what was being said. I just know the audience was laughing.

I pretty waitress came and took my order and then stayed with me the rest of the night. I’m not sure if BF’s are aloud there because it didn’t seem like that kind of place, but I asked her what her job was and she told me she had to dance and drink with customers. I bought her a drink. We danced and drank the night away. I took her number and caught a taxi to Hot Legs 1 on Palma Gil st.

Girl #1 and Girl #4 were both there. I sat down with girl #4 because she was so cute, and bought her a drink. I told her to text me after work so she could swing by my room and let me suck on her for a while. She laughed loudly at that statement. I finished my gin and tonic and caught a taxi back to the Marco to await the start of the text message game.

Back in my room I took a shower and spread out on the bed to watch some TV. I dozed off fairly quickly, and the next time I opened my eyes several hours had passed. Needless to say, I didn’t hear any of the text messages the girls sent after they had finished work. I needed the sleep anyway.


YM

[Cuba Tourist]

I just arrived in Davao yesterday. I had become quite attached to a woman named Shane but I was a little bit anxious to move on. I've been in Manila a number of times before and it wasn't new and fresh. The hotel was overpriced and not that great. In the future, I may go either upscale or downscale. The middle priced hotels charge too much for too little.

I arrived at about 6 PM and met a young man and young lady in my row. The guy was in the middle so he had better access to the very very attractive woman but once we got off the plane and were waiting for our baggage, she gravitated to me. We may meet later today. She seems very eager.

I met Grace, who was beautiful and very sexy. She spent the night and all morning with me. I helped her put some photos on Friendster and I gave her 800 pesos taxi money, which she took with a big smile.

I'm staying in a small hotel. When I first arrived at the airport, a guy wanted 500 Pesos to drive me into town. Eventually I found one for 250. He showed me three or four hotels until I found this one for about 1200 pesos a night. Ponce Suites had art all over the place and was truly unique for about 700 pesos, but there were terrible rooms.

I'd love to meet anyone who is here now. I cleaned out my mailbox so there is now room to send me a message.

[Cuba Tourist]

Yesterday I met three women in Davao. The first one met me alone. Her name is Jill. 19 years old and a college student in business administration. Her father was killed in a car crash when she was three. She works four hours a day in her uncle's business. She talked about her Protestant evangelical church repeatedly. We walked around for a few hours and she declined even a hamburger. No way was she sleeping with me.

Then I met a 27-year-old girl who brought her friend. The two of them were friendly but also spoke about their church. They also seem quite conservative. I got a text that another woman had arrived at my hotel so I excused myself after eating a small pizza and shakes with them.

The last girl had spoken about money problems on the phone so I was optimistic but when I met her she showed up with her aunt and friend and told me how she had met about eight or 10 foreigners over the past three years since she had been on the dating site and did not like any of them because they all wanted to have sex. Her aunt said that I was much nicer than any of these previous guys but I did not find that terribly encouraging.

The friend was extremely cute, much more so than the girl that I had corresponded with, whose name was Karen. The other girl's name was ching ching. Anyway after dinner at the hotel, the four of us went to my room to watch a movie. When I started touching ching ching she moved off the bed and onto the little night table. I asked her what was wrong and she said nothing. But I tried to touch her back and she stood up. She'd been smiling at me throughout dinner so I was a little bit surprised. Anyway they quickly excused themselves and left.

[Thaifun]

The last posts on Davao bring slowly some reality to the board. Davao has been pushed on the board (not on this thread though) in a kind of adolescent fashion that misled probably quite a few readers. So some caution is good when reading some of those reports and bizarre claims. Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot.
True down the street, some 100 - 150 yards away, some SW were often active but those were nothing for guys with timid nature, sense of risk or simply those who were still somewhat sober.
In due course, doubts were voiced and when those became louder, the adolescent and his deputy had to find an escape. Now we learned that the P4P Central had been the P4P Central of past times. Too bad this had no been made clear before. Less friendly readers would smell BS.

The Davao P4P central is near a bank building not far from the Venue. Dozens and dozens of SW but again, nothing for concerned consumers.

The small places on the CM Recto fall into the same category.

These are the low low low end places and locations anywhere found in RP. From the very big cities to the small towns. Old moms trying to make an extra peso to pay for the kids or grand kids breakfast.

The Venue itself had also been promoted as a pick up place. THe place was a hangout for regional mafia leaders who entertained the audience, at least once, with their shooting practices, leaving a body behind. Great place so to say.

The entertainment clubs cant be overlooked. They are mostly the only lighted place on the streets where they are found. Which tells a lot. The prices quoted by many posters make it more than doubtful that overpriced company makes Davao a special destination.

So the P4P scene is not that great. But then there all these freebies waiting for us. Right. Or better, not quite so right. Reading about the solid tens and nines obtainable on arrival some readers would have wondered. Again, some research is helpful. Look for the photographic evidence that accompanies from time to time those glorious victory news. Counting is a problem. While for most of us 4 is followed by 5, some think it's 10. Top stunners, once recorded on jpg and posted, turned out to be what the average Pattaya tourist knows as a solid 400 Baht Beach Road value. The difference is, nobody takes them to a 5 star hotel with jacuzzi, for that you need to go to Davao.

Ok, tastes vary greatly. The mall and internet procedures to meet somebody nice do work but it takes time and that is not what makes Davao the center of P4P but one place among many. Admittedly there are more malls in Davao than, say, Dumaguette or Iligan, but that changes not too much the overall picture. Davao is stretched out and the places were people meet are limited. Any girl who meets a white guys will stick out. Chaperons are essential to protect reputation and avoid gossip. Will it be for free? Not really, once the man is accepted as a bf, that is girl's perspective after all, he is expected to act like a proper local bf. He has to help with making life easier for her and take care of her. This is not scamming but a necessity. A tricycle fare is a major daily expense for most students and workers, including the mall ladies.

Guys who want to scored quick and consecutively need quite some preparation, use deception, have luck, and a good dose of disregard for the women to go ahead with this.

For guys who want nice company and are open to something more durable Davao is not too bad. Enough infrastructure and amenities are to be found. I dont mean going for the removed expat life stile with imported goods and exclusive locations, but going local with fresh seafood and other product. Most importantly with an open mind to try to understand the mindset of the women and the constraints they have to struggle with. Once this is understood true gems are fully appreciated.

In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.

[Sxxxx]

The last posts on Davao bring slowly some reality to the board. Davao has been pushed on the board (not on this thread though) in a kind of adolescent fashion that misled probably quite a few readers. So some caution is good when reading some of those reports and bizarre claims. Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot.
True down the street, some 100 - 150 yards away, some SW were often active but those were nothing for guys with timid nature, sense of risk or simply those who were still somewhat sober.

In due course, doubts were voiced and when those became louder, the adolescent and his deputy had to find an escape. Now we learned that the P4P Central had been the P4P Central of past times. Too bad this had no been made clear before. Less friendly readers would smell BS.

The Davao P4P central is near a bank building not far from the Venue. Dozens and dozens of SW but again, nothing for concerned consumers.

The small places on the CM Recto fall into the same category.

These are the low low low end places and locations anywhere found in RP. From the very big cities to the small towns. Old moms trying to make an extra peso to pay for the kids or grand kids breakfast.

The Venue itself had also been promoted as a pick up place. THe place was a hangout for regional mafia leaders who entertained the audience, at least once, with their shooting practices, leaving a body behind. Great place so to say.

The entertainment clubs cant be overlooked. They are mostly the only lighted place on the streets where they are found. Which tells a lot. The prices quoted by many posters make it more than doubtful that overpriced company makes Davao a special destination.

So the P4P scene is not that great. But then there all these freebies waiting for us. Right. Or better, not quite so right. Reading about the solid tens and nines obtainable on arrival some readers would have wondered. Again, some research is helpful. Look for the photographic evidence that accompanies from time to time those glorious victory news. Counting is a problem. While for most of us 4 is followed by 5, some think it's 10. Top stunners, once recorded on jpg and posted, turned out to be what the average Pattaya tourist knows as a solid 400 Baht Beach Road value. The difference is, nobody takes them to a 5 star hotel with jacuzzi, for that you need to go to Davao.

Ok, tastes vary greatly. The mall and internet procedures to meet somebody nice do work but it takes time and that is not what makes Davao the center of P4P but one place among many. Admittedly there are more malls in Davao than, say, Dumaguette or Iligan, but that changes not too much the overall picture. Davao is stretched out and the places were people meet are limited. Any girl who meets a white guys will stick out. Chaperons are essential to protect reputation and avoid gossip. Will it be for free? Not really, once the man is accepted as a bf, that is girl's perspective after all, he is expected to act like a proper local bf. He has to help with making life easier for her and take care of her. This is not scamming but a necessity. A tricycle fare is a major daily expense for most students and workers, including the mall ladies.

Guys who want to scored quick and consecutively need quite some preparation, use deception, have luck, and a good dose of disregard for the women to go ahead with this.

For guys who want nice company and are open to something more durable Davao is not too bad. Enough infrastructure and amenities are to be found. I dont mean going for the removed expat life stile with imported goods and exclusive locations, but going local with fresh seafood and other product. Most importantly with an open mind to try to understand the mindset of the women and the constraints they have to struggle with. Once this is understood true gems are fully appreciated.

In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.Excellent post.

Finally some objectivity and realistic reporting on Davao City.

Now the hype artists will chime in , lol.

Thanks pal for some sensible reporting , its been a long time coming , but you will most probably be crucified for your frankness and objectivity.

[X Man]

Actually, a pretty good summary despite being a bit on the negative side.

Dragonslayer thread still provides information about Davao and other areas.

Because of the nature of ISG, many people assume that if someone is boinking a woman half his age, then it must be p4p. Think again. Davao is not really a good p4p destination, although it exists.

Davao is more for the wife hunter or p4p weary man who wants to experience the adventure of the hunt of a regular woman. I will add that my observations seem to indicate that MIndanao women are a bit taller and more buxom than their northern sisters.

The convenience store still exists and as Thaifun suggests, it was never much of a p4p destination. It does have seating inside (receently expanded) and outside. You can buy a beer, or whatever, and enjoy it right there.

The outside seating has a view of the entrance of the very popular People's Park. Entrance to the park is regulated so there is sometimes a queue. I have no intention of over-hyping Davao, but this is still a good place to sit down, have a beer, and observe who is entering the park. Dusk is the time you'll see more adult women in the park.

Every trip I try to do something new. This time (Jan 2010) I went down to Talikud island. Is anyone interested in a review?

X




Up to about 2 years ago readers were made believe that a small convenience store, just like a 7/11, was the heart of the Davao sex industry. Due to such repeated claims Davao won a new attraction. The smart local and tourist could take a seat in one of the local bbq places that surround the store and watch a procession of searching western looking man. Even a map had been supplied to guide the crowd of believers to the spot..

[Cuba Tourist]

X----I dove Talikud Island today. Would love to read your impressions.

[X Man]

You do your dive review, I'll do a simple Talikud review.

You didn't contact the girl I pm'd you? Damn, as ACDC would say, "the girl's got rythym".

X

X----I dove Talikud Island today. Would love to read your impressions.

[Questor 55]

It's always a rare treat to get the straight goods from someone who really

Knows the score. Thaifun's recent report on Davao hits the mark. I've read numerous other writers' observations, some with the flavour of local

Chamber of Commerce boosters. I like Davao, have every intention of going back. Had my share of luck, there, too. However, Thaifun gives the

Most realistic summary I've read on Davao.

Cheers,

Mate!

[Member #4491]

Thank you Thaifun for that well balanced report.

I as well might have come across as overly positive about Davao at times. Sorry. As I said before I spent one night in Cebu and saw more pretty girls there during these 48 hours than in a week in Davao. Not to mention Manila or BKK.

Davao is provincial. Like a small town where everyone knows each other and keep track of each other. Less pretty girls and less girls that are up for anything out of the ordinary. My buddies who lives on site have been talking for two years about organizing a pool party like the ones from Angeles you can find on YoutuB. It is yet to happen. The girls on Skank Street. Sorry Bank Street will not join you for a pool party unless they can bring their family and a big pot of rice along to the pick nick. And I doubt that any hotel would even let them in more than one at the time.

Davao is rural and simple. There is a beauty in that but forget just walking out and pick up adventurous girls en masse. Find a good girl and take her to Talicud for some days and you will see the real good side of Davao. Rizal st and Torres st, and the faces that you constantly see there, will bore you in a week or tow.

The best thing to do at the mentioned convenient store is to eat the grilled chicken. Maybe you can get to talk to a giggly teen coming from the park, but it is a useless spot for picking up girls.

Davao is a great place, but not for the reasons many travel to the Philippines for.

Barba

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[PolyOrchid]

Has anyone stayed in this hotel called My Hotel in Davao? It has a very nice website and looks very clean and nice there but I realize that marketing sometimes trumps reality. Would appreciate feedback from anyone who has any experience there.

Promotional prices around 1000 PHP looks great.

[KongKing]

Has anyone stayed in this hotel called My Hotel in Davao? It has a very nice website and looks very clean and nice there but I realize that marketing sometimes trumps reality. Would appreciate feedback from anyone who has any experience there.

Promotional prices around 1000 PHP looks great.
I was going to give it a try too doing my next trip. It is new and indeed very well marketed all over Davao with bill boards and a sleek website.

Its in San Pedro Street and pretty close to most of the downtown action. It is a pretty noisy area with all the traffic and sidewalk markets. Towards Quirino Ave it seems to be a congregating area for pimps, pros and pick pockets!

Just around the block in Rizal Street is Las Casitas Inn. It is relatively new, 3 years I think, and I have stayed there a couple of times. Rizal Street sites like Rizal Promenade, Club 183, Chicos, De Bonte Koe, Claudes are all within a minute or two. I can recommend Las Casitas Inn http://lascasitasinn.com/

Try "My Hotel" and I will be interested in your report Polyorchid

Kongking

[GoodEnough]

I was going to give it a try too doing my next trip. It is new and indeed very well marketed all over Davao with bill boards and a sleek website.

Its in San Pedro Street and pretty close to most of the downtown action. It is a pretty noisy area with all the traffic and sidewalk markets. Towards Quirino Ave it seems to be a congregating area for pimps, pros and pick pockets!

Just around the block in Rizal Street is Las Casitas Inn. It is relatively new, 3 years I think, and I have stayed there a couple of times. Rizal Street sites like Rizal Promenade, Club 183, Chicos, De Bonte Koe, Claudes are all within a minute or two. I can recommend Las Casitas Inn http://lascasitasinn.com/

Try "My Hotel" and I will be interested in your report Polyorchid

Kongking
I pass it frequently though I've never been inside. To me, the place looks like a dump, and it's not in an area that's convenient to much of anything. Barba has stayed there a couple of times and, as I recall, he told me during his last visit that he would never stay there again. You may want to PM him directly and ask him why.
GE

[Member #4491]

Try order in the restaurant and you will C.

Or try to get a room that corresponds to what you booked.

Or try chasing down the cockroaches..

TV out of order. Phone out of order. No bed lights. Super bad cleaning of the floors.

You get what you pay for, but there are worse or better places also in the 1000-1200 peso range.

The location is fine but either you face the back side with the constantly hammering constructors, or the front side and the noisy San Pedro street. Get me a sniper rifle and I will take out all the ballot horns some morning.

Did anyone try Hotel Hari Royale on Sta Anna Ave, I. E. China Town? Newly built.

Promo rate at 999 / 1200 peso.

Phone +63 823000111.

Looks pretty good on the flyer I got sent to me.

Barba

[Escort Fan]

There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?

[GoodEnough]

There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?
I was there tonight and the place was pretty full, but I didn't see anyone corresponding to your description.

GE

[Wicked Roger]

There is some big boned dude (from America I think) who's at Claude's Café pratically everyday. Been to Claude three times saw him 3 Times, 2 times with different girls, one time alone.

Are you on the board mate?
Barba......is that you as it cant be GE...big boned, different girls sounds like you IMHO :D ;)

[Member #4491]

I wish, but nope it is not me. I am not in Davao yet.

And I am not sure I am that big boned either.

First Singapore and then Davao after that.

Barba

[GoodEnough]

Nope. Can't be Barba. I chatted with him yesterday and he's still in his home country but coming here this week. I did see a table with a couple of large expats. They finished when we were halfway through our meal, but these guys were with older women. I thought the women were most likely their wives, so I doubt if one of them was the person being referred to.

[Puerto La Cruz]

Nope. Can't be Barba. I chatted with him yesterday and he's still in his home country but coming here this week. I did see a table with a couple of large expats. They finished when we were halfway through our meal, but these guys were with older women. I thought the women were most likely their wives, so I doubt if one of them was the person being referred to.

If they were in their late 20s to early 30s that can be considered old for a filipina. That's jail bait for me and my preference.

[GoodEnough]

If they were in their late 20s to early 30s that can be considered old for a filipina. That's jail bait for me and my preference.
However, they were in the late forties to early fifties, and trust me, there's no way they were for hire.

[Laylow3]

In other words, Angeles on the cheap wont work.
I think you meant to type "Davao" not "Angeles". sorry for nitpicking. hehe.

[Robbaf]

I think you meant to type "Davao" not "Angeles". sorry for nitpicking. hehe.
No, I think he meant Davao is not for someone who enjoys/wants the cheap of Angeles diba?

Laylow, I just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a Filipina?

Robb

[Thaifun]

no, i think he meant davao is not for someone who enjoys/wants the cheap of angeles diba?

laylow, i just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a filipina?

robb

exactly. reading that other area of the forum, some guys might think davao's airport code should be changed from dvo to foa (fuck on arrival).

most of the time i just read and keep silent as debating makes little sense or produces few results. but it seems many readers who have been to davao found realities on the ground entirely different from the adolescent's and his deputy's claims.

i have had many memorable nights at a local dance club. sitting in the back with some lady friend and seeing some 'americano' walking in. getting his drink and beaming with expectation. be sure, he/they left alone after an hour or so. the girls know the score. going with a guy like that would out them among their peers and the label '*****' is used. yes, you might have a nice talk with the ladies on the next table, join them, and get the number from one. but that's a start and not the done deal. and all of this depends on proper behavior, the right answers, and not being a 2-3 day visitor to the area. the sexy dance competition is nice but that's not a strip club situation, for this you need to turn left at the next corner.

yes most girls are looking - but mr right not mr short time. the girls routinely refer to westerners patrolling torres at night looking for a pick up. some also read, believe or not, this web forum. this all should serve as a hint that the ladies, at least some of them, are not stupid and ignorant. some have been burnt and are very bitter. dia girls have stories to tell. like that of an aussie. got his lady coming in from bislig. she sneaked away from her family claiming to visit her friend in panabo. no job or perspective, very poor. he was her first man, three times a day. a little bad luck for the man as anal did not really work, too much pain. he left, some more emails and then faded away. she is back in bislig and sometimes making some money from doing laundry. cheap fuck, just some promises. great guy. i think i read his report somewhere on the forum. so think about that "other" report she would write. p4p standards are hardly the right way to treat "good" girls in provinces. dia girls often state that they are "simple" (read modest). maybe that's often misunderstood.

davao is not a small town but is big. pointing to single women going out in groups is stating the obvious and a common phenomenon valid for most towns in rp. women go out in groups, they are single, they are looking, but won't fuck you on first contact. exceptions prove the rule for sure but assuming that you're in for that for sure, think twice.

this is not being negative about davao. my issue is the conscious blurring of the distinctions of the p4p scene, which is pretty gross in davao, and the dating scene which is a bit more complex than some people would like to have it.

the degree of arrogance and disregard for women in davao exposed on some thread of this forum is difficult to stomach. most of the girls are hard working for 180-250 peso a day. they have only contracts and no rights like workers have in other countries. once the contract has run its time they are on the street and need to survive from what they could save. plus they support their families from this meager income. in other words, the 2x 7 peso jeepney fare to meet a western man exceeds more of 10% of what is left of their daily income. convert that into us averages and anyone gets the picture. ok, not all as we know just too well. mocking their poverty and often desperate situation, conditions that make them ask for 500 peso (11 us), tells a lot about poster.

i think some simply confuse matters. it is not the issue of 'over-paying' for services rendered, like in, say, angeles or pattaya, but something entirely different. most of these women are very conservative and dream of a different life. realizing the fundamental difference between the angeles and davao situations is probably the basis for any 'good' time in davao without exploiting a woman.

dinner in a 5 star hotel, the day on the beach etc. are all nice but help hardly when it comes to the bottom line. the 1000 or 2000 peso dinner have the same effect like a 50-100 peso dinner, it is one meal after all nothing more. she needs to eat again, memories dont help. the winner is not the girl but the person who took her there as an additional piece of furniture to be discarded within a second. so nobody impresses me with talk about dinner prices while being greedy about those 10 us when it does matter.
davao is good as long as the guest shows some consideration, understanding, interest and even some respect. living in davao on a us income with all benefits and then adopting some kind of anthropological view on the local 'indios' exposes a degree of racism that is well understood.

one important addition; contraceptives are difficult to get and too expensive. so most girls "trust" you. this has lead to some discussion with pretty bizarre results. following expert opinion on the matter from a boy who has knocked up three girls already with doubtlessly many more to come, is plain stupid. aside from std, remember those warts...., the "safe" days are not always as secure as it is claimed. why? sperm can survive up to three days inside the female body (info from a nurse). do the math...


all those complains, right? so what does he do himself? i pay for some drinks at the dance club with the lady i accompany or those i do join at their table. they are happy for the beer or the cali. i make sure i always take care of the fare (both ways plus a few peso extra usually a small 50 p bill does it most of the time). this is the difference between helping and paying. yes i pay the dinner in non fancy but ok places (by local standards). the trip to a nice place on the day off is paid and when it gets tight at the end of the month, i m there. sometimes a bit shopping is fine. usually the girl is happy to go to a mall with her friends and do the ladies' mall experience. a simple jeans is a major expense (500 or so, maybe a little less), a nice t shirt etc. so 1000 peso do help.
have a bdo or metrobank savings account with atm card. during absence this takes care of unforeseen issues, there will be some for sure. just transfer into that account (it is in your name, she has the pin and card).

i can only say that filipinas compare most favorably with thais, american and also european women. show respect and you will be treated with respect. take care and you will see what happens when your sick and need some assistance yourself. the girls are conservative but with the right guy they will open up and broaden their horizons (not just in bed by the way).

davao is an excellent place if you observe some discretion and show consideration. in short: being and acting mature is a good idea.

[Laylow3]

Laylow, I just saw your post in other areas, are you married to a Filipina?

Robb
Yes I am married to filipina. I know I know, sooner or later I'll get caught. Thanks for bringing me back to reality again. I got the same warning when I posted about my upcoming trip to the P.I. last year. In actuality, I know full well that you are 100% correct and that I AM going to heed your warning. I guess I keep asking about it because secretly I hope someone will tell me that it is in fact possible. But until that day, I won't mess around anywhere near her hometown. Damn!

[X Man]

I thought the first report was well balanced and I said so in my response. Barba, a good source of Davao info, reported in a similar way

I think this followup is a long winded rehash and tends to be a lot more on the negative critical side. It also doesn't include any specifics.

I've been to Davao four times, usually just for a 3 to t5 days, and have been well cared for......in every respect of the word.

Thaifun...how much have you been to Davao? If you've given this detail earlier, I'm sorry for not rtff....but it seems you have only a few posts.

I only ask because if you've got a harem in Pattaya, it might be a disappointment to visit a new place like Davao and not get penile satisfaction in the first 15 minutes. We envy you.

X


exactly. Reading that other area of the forum,

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Davao is an excellent place if you observe some discretion and show consideration. In short: Being and acting mature is a good idea.

[Starchild2012]

exactly. Reading that other area of the forum, some guys might think Davao's airport code should be changed from DVO to FOA (fuck on arrival).



Good analysis. I'm here thinking that you are new to the Philippine scene as i could not read more post of you here.

What you say is correct as an initial perspective. However, once you start living here and get to know them better, you would realize that filipinas are much stronger mentally and physically than what we think.

Living here for close to 2 years now. My perspective has gotten better as i grow older and look into the view of how an expat thinks and how a filipina lives.

From my personal experience. 90% of filipinas and mongers are well behaved, respectful and generally nice. You could read one other forum just do Google search living in cebu forums and get to meet cebu expat community which is well connected and go out of their way to help.

Generally people across the world are nice, if only one takes the time to know them. Its the authority and the need for some people to control others lives that creates all sorts of problems.

I have been with many filipinas to say really that you need to stay for over six months to know what Philippines is all about. Your judgement of Davao and general life is what a monger sees when he first comes to the PH. I cannot stress that enough that your perspective will change once you start living here.

What you call unfairness and cheating will soon open new view on life here. You haven't included the strength of filipinas and the family attachment they have for one another and various other factors that you start sensing it when you start to living here.

Good Luck

[Questor 55]

Guys,

Do I detect some quibbling here, regarding Thaifun's second report?

The suggestion that his few reports on this particular forum equates with his being a 'rookie' who doesn't have a grasp of the the real picture

Are questionable.

What's the real message he's giving us? Isn't it that showing respect and making a concerted effort to think with your other head, is necessary to understand the filipinas of Davao.

I, for one, have found both his reports well balanced, thoughtful, and displaying perspective and sensitivity.

Surely there is room on this forum for such observations.

[GoodEnough]

Thaifun, thanks for an excellent, well balanced report. As I've said herein several times, Davao is probably not the best destination for those seeking immediate and varied gratification. If P4P is your thing, there are many more productive areas of the Philippines in which to indulge yourself.

As you point out, Davao is slightly more genteel than many other cities here, and there appear to be more women interested in actual relationships. That said, some simple kindness and respect go a long way toward establishing such relationships and finding a lady who is fairly compatible with you is not particularly difficult so long as you're not overly anxious and too obviously on the prowl.

There are, it seems to me, three more or less generic categories of women here: the straight P4P variety found in the clubs or on the street or in the casas; the "part-timers," who are more often than not students looking for tuition help; and the non-pros (the largest group), who are looking for some sort of actual relationship. It's this latter group that's most often found at places like Someplace Else (and adjoining areas), Bar 183, the bars on Torres St., the Auto Shop and so on. If it's these types of women you're after, then Davao can be a truly great town.

Within the last group, most of the girls, while certainly needy by Western standards, are actually at the edge of the middle class by local criteria. That is, they're not desperately needy and getting to know them takes some effort.

What embarrasses me about some Westerners here is that they fail to distinguish among the various groups, take no time to study the situation, and act on the assumption that all of the women they see alone or in groups, are hookers who will find them somehow irresistible. They appear to think that so long as they have some funds, all women will be willing and even anxious to hit the sack with them. This would be amusing if some of these guys were not so arrogant in their stupidity, and were not so loud and obnoxious in their pursuit of the ladies. They do not seem to know or care that a little respect for all people goes a very long way here.

GE

[Escort Fan]

Barba......is that you as it cant be GE...big boned, different girls sounds like you IMHO :D ;)It was around nov 1. Nov 15. Short hair, about 6ft3. Claude said he comes daily and always grabs a wine bottle. Big boned like 280 lbs+ and native english speaker.

Anyway that guy seemed well introduced.

Next time I see one of you I'll go ask him to hook me up with some premium girls and I'll buy the dinner! LOL.

[Thaifun]

Good analysis. I'm here thinking that you are new to the Philippine scene as i could not read more post of you here.

What you say is correct as an initial perspective. However, once you start living here and get to know them better, you would realize that filipinas are much stronger mentally and physically than what we think.

Living here for close to 2 years now. My perspective has gotten better as i grow older and look into the view of how an expat thinks and how a filipina lives.

From my personal experience. 90% of filipinas and mongers are well behaved, respectful and generally nice. You could read one other forum just do Google search living in cebu forums and get to meet cebu expat community which is well connected and go out of their way to help.

Generally people across the world are nice, if only one takes the time to know them. Its the authority and the need for some people to control others lives that creates all sorts of problems.

I have been with many filipinas to say really that you need to stay for over six months to know what Philippines is all about. Your judgement of Davao and general life is what a monger sees when he first comes to the PH. I cannot stress that enough that your perspective will change once you start living here.

What you call unfairness and cheating will soon open new view on life here. You haven't included the strength of filipinas and the family attachment they have for one another and various other factors that you start sensing it when you start to living here.

Good Luck

we have about the same PI years on our shoulders. I have been in Thailand for the better part of the recent years before switching.
My issue is just the blurring of distinctions and the, yes, sometimes totally out of context conduct of some guys. Really embarrassing. Perhaps more important is even the arrogance shown by some in real life and their postings.
I agree that filipinas are good at sustaining awful situations. Having said that there is no need to accept that as the rule or a condition. Meaning: Be nice and dont exploit some naive provincial girl. Sure some are not and only play that game.
My point is just to get those over and over reposted misconceptions on Davao out of the way. There were enough justified complaints from girls who have a kind of good job and going out. Interested in a white guy and then the idiot starts financial discussion and inquires on services offered. Maybe wrongly, but I do suspect that some readers of the forum were among those guys.
As for my own part, I m doing really fine. Being honest to a good extent, generous within in clearly defined and declared limits, and the use of ignore buttons/number screening to weed out the bad apples assures a good life.

Back to the Thailand comparison. Generalizations dont work well, they describe more averages. With that qualification in mind, I find filipinas much nicer than thais.

[Thaifun]

I thought the first report was well balanced and I said so in my response. Barba, a good source of Davao info, reported in a similar way

I think this followup is a long winded rehash and tends to be a lot more on the negative critical side. It also doesn't include any specifics.

I've been to Davao four times, usually just for a 3 to t5 days, and have been well cared for......in every respect of the word.

Thaifun...how much have you been to Davao? If you've given this detail earlier, I'm sorry for not rtff....but it seems you have only a few posts.

I only ask because if you've got a harem in Pattaya, it might be a disappointment to visit a new place like Davao and not get penile satisfaction in the first 15 minutes. We envy you.

X

I dont post my own experiences cos it wont tell too much about the place and more about me and i m, i m afraid, not the object of general desire here. The 20th reference to the dance club with the 2 am competition wont add much. I m anyhow more in the dating scene.

Davao? Sometimes 10 days or more, now much less. Other places attract me more. Usually every 3-5 months, i m in Davao. I posted in the Davao thread cos it attracts more attention and visitors. But it could have been another place in Mindanao as well. Davao is my place to rest, fly in and out, spend a night in a club, or do some shopping before heading into the woods. The sea in Davao is not really great, seafood is overpriced. Those crabs on the plate have after all the long ride from San Fernando barangay in Bislig on their shoulders. Try them at the source...Takes about 7 hrs to get to the bridge with the small market.

I dont want to come across as being negative about Davao. The place has its very good sides.

Sorry about being repetitive, i thought some clarifications had been requested. Plus that contraception discussion stuck in my mind. I hope that the 72 hrs reminder came in handy.

[Sxxxx]

xxxxxxxxx But it seems many readers who have been to Davao found realities on the ground entirely different from the adolescent's and his deputy's claims. XxxxxxxxxxxxxHope those new to this thread, read and re-read that, LOL, 100% correct.

Plus agree with most other stuff you have written.

Amuses me, guys ride in with their dollars and reckon they are gods gift to women. Reality is quite different.

[KongKing]

Thaifun, I have just caught up with your second of your two comprehensive postings. I share with Questor 55, Born Loser 5, Goodenough, Sxxxx their views of a well balanced thoughtful contribution.

You don’t say it as such but you are clearly referring to the Dragon Slayer Davao forum. Should you have posted there your contribution probably would not have seen the light of day. Some of us have experienced that! Despite the fact that the DS Davao forum seems to be recently dominated by upper-end food and fashion reports, occasionally there’s good ISG information and entertaining stuff there. So I don’t write it off. In my view your comments go wider than this other Davao forum.

The major point to me that you are making is that you/we treat the Filipina with respect and not as a chattel or a slab of meat to be skewered. “Most girls are looking – but Mr Right but not Mr Short Time”. Well said Thaifan. You are obviously a considerate guy and you are prepared to get on a wave length, share and understand your Filipina partner. And that does not mean throwing around dollops of dollars to impress.

I chuckled at your comment about Filipinas whose scorings were rated as 9 or 10 revealed “counting is a problem” when compared with the actual posted photos which wouldn’t rate half that score. DS says he has 100s more photos so if ever revealed we may see a better scoring match-up!

[X Man]

Minor quibble, but it was X Man that first suggested that Thaifun's (first) post was "well balanced".

KongKing, it's sad to see you still angry at the guy who runs the other Davao thread. Since he cannot post here, maybe Thaifun was correct in not naming names. Of course you can probably guess who the "deputy" is also!

Lastly, is there some post here in the Davao thread that suggested NOT treating women with respect??? It strikes me as common sense, so I'm surprised with the sudden clamor for everyone to say how important it is to treat women well. ]

X



I share with Questor 55, Born Loser 5, Goodenough, Sxxxx their views of a well balanced thoughtful contribution.

SNIP
The major point to me that you are making is that you/we treat the Filipina with respect and not as a chattel or a slab of meat to be skewered.

SNIP!

[X Man]

talikud island

for beaches near davao city, most people would cross over to samal island. a popular place is paradise island (resort) which is not an island. it's a resort. i would really like to explore samal island more, but this post is about talikud island. as for women, you’d best bring one with you.

i'll write it one more time for any newcomers on the way to davao. ask the locals about a beach and they will tell you to to go paradise island. it is not an island. it is a resort on samal island.

to get to talikud island (as in a piece of land surrounded by water -- a real island) you go to santa ana wharf in davao and pay 50 pesos per person. the transit is pleasant and takes about one hour. i was on a boat that carried 120 people and i don't know how often they run. i waited about an hour before they departed. with that in mind this is best done as an overnight trip. they seemed flexible about landings -- we were dropped off at a private pier outside of one of the towns. i imagine you can hire a private boat as well.

i think cubat and ge have both dived around t. island, so maybe they know more about private boat hires.

i struck up a conversation with the only other foreigner on the boat, a friendly european guy. he in turn met a group of filipinos on the boat who happened to speak his language (wow, what a coincidence) and were enroute to a resort owned by a european friend. the group, including my new friend, my companion and i, disembarked at this resort which is just north of the town of sta. cruz. the resort is still under construction -- it doesn't even have a name yet. i rented a very nice cottage on the waterfront for 1500 pesos. it was a kilometer or two north of the town of sta cruz on the east side of the island. (see map) pm me if you want more details about the resort.

at low tide it didn't look so good for swimming, but was actually very nice when the tide was up in the evening. also, we went to the beach resort just south of sta cruz called isla reta (see pics). there was no entrance charge at the time we went in late afternoon. the beach was very nice with white sand. the cottages looked very simple and had common walls -- not really cottages at all. you probably wouldn't want to stay here unless you were on a budget. after our swim, we wandered into the town. my new friend and i bought a bottle of red horse and drank it there at the table in front of the sari store. considering the attention we received, foreigners are not so common here -- not yet.

i never made it to the west side of the island, but it seems this is where the best beaches / snorkeling / diving is. the whole island is only about eight kilometers north to south and four kilometer east / west. i wish i'd had a mountain bike.

the island electricity is shut off from 1am to 6am. no one bothered to tell me this. waking up in the middle of the night in an unfamiliar room, with no light is kind of a pain in the arse. i had to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134)! i groped around for my phone, which has a light, but couldn't find it. i walked outside and pissed off the balcony under the full moon, enjoying the view of the water and coconut trees. a full moon isn't guaranteed, so take a flashlite or two!

oh, and another tip. this is not the type of place where they regularly trim the coconut trees so that some hapless foreigner doesn't get catastrophic brain injury while on holiday. the trees looked like they were ready to burst, so don't spend too much time under the trees when it's windy.

worth a visit if you want something quiet and remote. x

pic 1 isla reta resort beach view.
pic 2 the bit of green is the far northern tip of talikud island with mt. apo in the background.
pic 3 isla reta resort beach view looking south -- south tip of samal island in the background
pic 4 talikud island map, including south tip of samal island

[Bronxnik]

It's part of Davao del Norte province, whereas the Big Apple is part of Sur.

You can convince guys into rustling up a wild coconut crab for dinner. Money does talk but, the people who are money-oriented have already moved to the Big Apple. So, you need to have ==some== social engineering skills.

[Member #4491]

Not sure if I should say thank you XMan but I do anyway. I spent about 30-40 nights over the years in Talicud in varios places, and it is indeed the one of the better get away spots around Davao. It changed a lot just during the last four years. Especially the last two since me and some other guys reported on it here (search the RODs and read my badly formatted report about rented boats, ferries and all). Much more people coming there, and not only foreigners that got up their eyes for this gem.

Isla Reta is named after the owner Mr Mario Reta and I tried to buy it several times.. Had some co financing at one time but he turned down a 15 000 000 peso bid. I do not think we would have bought it for such an hefty amount, but at the time me and my bro was in love with the place and the vision we had for it. Glad I did not buy Retas place since time will change also this little pearl. Isla Reta is in my opinion unbearable during weekends nowadays.

I checked out some other properties on the island as well. One full scaled but quite simple resort for some 2 200 000 peso. Six houses, a banka, 50 meter beach line, and so on. I left the idea of owning anything myself in Davao now, but have a couple of friends who is slowly consuming lot after lot on this island. I advice you to have a look at erosion patterns on Talicud before you buy anything.

I guess change is inevitable but sometimes we just want to stop time and preserve a newly found breathing whole like it was the day we first stumbled of the boat.

All the best from Barba!

[Questor 55]

Sorry guys if this is a lame query, but I don't recall hearing anything about 'Big Apple' in the past. I would appreciate some enlightenment.

I'm a bit of an 'info. junkie', so the more, the better.

Thanks

[GoodEnough]

I've never stayed overnight on Talicud, and thus cannot offer any insights into the resorts mentioned. However, I trust Barba's judgments as he's a man of exquisite taste.

I have dived off the island many times, and there are some great walls there with an infinite variety of sea life and corals. Also, the beaches are very nice and, at least when I was there, largely unspoiled.

GE

[Member #4491]

Oh GE, Isla reta is a VERY simple place. The concrete bungalows are on the verge of being unhealth due to insects, mold and humidity. I took a gf "from home" once and she cried the first evening. They are built totally wrong for that climate. The toilets in the bungalows are just a notch better than the ones in Victoria mall.

The place XMan mentions is owned by a friend of mine. The houses there are new and waaay nicer, but the beach on Isla Reta is much longer and better, with less coral and rocks. I tend to dislike these caged in resorts. If Philippines would have the Thai style resorts with open beaches where you can stroll for hours, it could actually become an alternative for European sun starved tourists.

The native huts on poles on Isla Reta are airy and quite OK if you are in to simple life, but you can not be to shy when you shag your mrs since the walls are just split bamboo. Anyone seen these native huts know that this is basically one big structure where every room has a separate ladder, 2-4 beds with thin madrases, a patio with some chairs and tables, and a next door neighbor who can hear you fart. No toilets so you have to wear your wet suit and try to make it to the dirty and flooded shared toilets. bring a flash light. Or why not do as a friends mountain gf did - just pulled down her panties and pissed through (on) the bamboo floor. "What! It is bamboo... it will go right through anyway." Cultural differences, but I just love to see these mountain girls getting in to killing the chickens and cooking the dinner while I sip my beer with a buddy in the 30 degree water. Yes I am European and use SI units - 30 degree F would be... well, just like home almost.
I spent many nights just sleeping in my hamaca on the beach of Isla Reta. Dozing off to the sound of the gulf. Few things are more relaxing. So I advice you to try this, but not in a weekend if you do not enjoy listening to 100 drunk Philippinos camping instead of the waves.

While we are on the give away, I want to encourage XMan and everyone else with some adventure in their blood to get of at Kaputian and try the "resort" there. Simple, but an experience. Try the three houses.

Cheers from Barba!


I've never stayed overnight on Talicud, and thus cannot offer any insights into the resorts mentioned. However, I trust Barba's judgments as he's a man of exquisite taste.
GE

[Thaifun]

Maybe I should add a few points on the motives and points of my criticism.

I was motivated to put it in writing by reading one report where a BM was actually not too happy with his exploits in Davao. His disappointment is understandable once anyone takes too serious those raving claims about Davao.
Another reasons was that I have been told and that more than once by girlfriends of lady friends about rather gross misunderstandings when going on a date. This might be also partly a result of those incorrect characterizations of many women in Davao by that adolescent.
I do not claim that the forum or its members as such promote such rude or let's say insensitive behavior. As the justified criticism of my earlier posts show, the forum has, like many others, as nicely balanced way of discussing and balancing out statements and alert readers get a good idea. This holds true for this thread but not for another part of the forum which is largely a self-glorifying playground. I acknowledge KongKing's in my view correct remark that there still useful bits and pieces in that other segment but, honestly, far and between. I read for amusement and some kind of challenge to figure out the mindset exposed there.

To add a bit of info: Travel in the Southern Mindanao area is pretty safe right now. The police is closely guarding the overland roads. As long as you're not a US citizens and therefore suspected of working for some agency I guess staying in Muslim areas is ok. The Zamboanga Peninsula is not though. South of Ipil with the exception of Zamboange city perhaps is very dangerous right now. I talked to some guys at checkpoints who would not answer and just smirked. My advise would be to talk to Van drivers. They usually are very careful where to go with their own Van. Bus drivers are less helpful.

[GoodEnough]

I want to add a few words of caution to Thaifun's statement that S. Mindanao is "generally safe." It's important to remember that the reverberations from the Maguindanao Massacre are still being felt, and it's even more important to remember that this is the election season--a notoriously unstable period even during more settled times. I suggest that, for the uninitiated, there are only two rock-solid safety zones right now in Mindanao; Davao and Cagayan de Oro. Zamboanga, though generally okay, should I think be avoided for the present by those who are not familiar with the city. It's just too easy to get in some trouble there if you don't know your way around.

Though I know I've made this point many times, Davao is probably not for everyone. It's not nearly as "in your face" with its attractions as say Angeles, Cebu or Manila. It's P4P scene pales in relation to the aforementioned. That said, there are multiple venues for meeting non-professionals and, for those who enjoy the chase and the challenge, there are unparalleled opportunities here. Granted, it takes some work and a modicum of decorum. If that's not your scene, and you're more interested in bagging as many women in as short a time as possible (nothing wrong with that at all), then this place is probably not going to satisfy your expectations.

As to the other forum's serving as a venue for self-glorification, I guess that value is in the mind of the individual reader. I think that it's unbeatable for getting an overview of where to go and where to stay here. Those who don't agree, or who get annoyed at the tone should probably avoid looking at it. Maybe the problem is that some of the members take all of this stuff too seriously; it's supposed to be fun, and when reading/posting ceases to be fun and achieves too much importance, then I think that something's out of balance.

I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GE

[X Man]

Yes, it is spelled Talicud. And yes, it is spelled Talikud (but less often). The Isla Reta Resort sign says "Talicud". They should know! E-Z MAP spells it "Talikud" on its Mindanao and Davao maps.

Google search: Talicud 140,000 hits / Talikud 38,000 hits

I don't know what a "wild coconut crab" is, but maybe you can use some of your social engineering skills and tell us what that might be! :-)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/davao/new-adventure-island-called-talikud

X



It's part of Davao del Norte province, whereas the Big Apple is part of Sur.

You can convince guys into rustling up a wild coconut crab for dinner. Money does talk but, the people who are money-oriented have already moved to the Big Apple. So, you need to have ==some== social engineering skills.

[Pompolino]

I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GEI went to Davao in March & April last year for just over 4 weeks. I had read widely on this board and that of Dragon Slayer and had prepared lists of all sort of things that I wanted to do, places I wanted to go and things I wanted to see. Yes mongering was a high priority. But for a complete experience of Davao I had learnt so much from the very generous contributions from GE and others such as Barba and Dragon Slayer such that my trip was an unforgetable and very full experience of Davao. I love the place and I particularly love the people. What I wouldn't give now to take a stroll down Torres Street, drink cold beer and listen all night to those fantastic musicians all for the price of a hamburger here where I live.

This forum is about sharing information and many put enormous time and energy into this. I am not a great contributor but thank all those who do - because I know that there are many people reading who benefit. Mongering is the first reason we all read this forum, but to appreciate the place, I think you have to get out of your hotel room and experience the city and everything that goes with it.

P

[X Man]

About 70 km east of Davao, as the crow flies, is the town of Mati. Maybe twice that using the roads. I thought about going there but never made it. Mati is not mentioned in my Lonely PLanet, but the E-Z map identifies it as a "local seaport"

Apparently it is a five hour bus ride. This didn't appeal to me. I inquired with one taxi driver and he suggested a 2.5 hour drive (one way) for about 3000. You could probably bargain down a bit.

But, when I was at Santa Ana wharf on my way to Talicud, there was a more modern boat docked nearby. My inquiries indicate that it goes to Lupon town. Lupon is on the opposite side of Davao Gulf and is only about 20km from Mati. If anyone has any information about this alternative route, I'd appreciate it.

Looking at the map, I wouldn't be surprised if there are also boats that cross from west Samal to Lupon. Other than that, I suspect Mati is the port of destination for many of the eastern villages of Compostela Valley which appear to have mostly unpaved roads connecting them.

.... the more I know, the more questions I have....

X

[Warbucks]

As to the other forum's serving as a venue for self-glorification, I guess that value is in the mind of the individual reader. I think that it's unbeatable for getting an overview of where to go and where to stay here. Those who don't agree, or who get annoyed at the tone should probably avoid looking at it. Maybe the problem is that some of the members take all of this stuff too seriously; it's supposed to be fun, and when reading/posting ceases to be fun and achieves too much importance, then I think that something's out of balance.

I'm largely out of the game in Davao, so I never write about sexual exploits as there no longer are any for me. So I write about restaurants and other areas of interest here as that's about the only contribution I have left to make.

GEMy apologies as this has nothing to do with Davao but GE's post struck a cord.

I boast on these forums but for me as I have stated countless times its all for entertainment purposes. I tell guys if you’re not a millionaire you have no room to boast about your financial status.

GE I am big fan your posts and have been for the last 4 ½ your isms on PI should be collected and placed in a FAQ somewhere.

All ISG members contribute in some form or another whether it is knowledge, directions or entertainment.

It’s the guys who complain about and harass (in an uncivil manner) other members who make the forum a hostile environment.

And again as for guys talking about fine dining, nice hotels and clothes, I would much rather read about that than some guy posting about how he rubbing pennies together just to monger. For me this is just short of pathetic.

[X Man]

GE has many years of excellent posts at ISG. Amazingly he has avoided the petty (and not so petty) squabbles that come up from time to time.

I certainly never remember him ever taking the tone that Warbucks does in his post quoted below. Warbucks, instead of praising the man, try to follow his examples. (yes, me too....)

He consistently gives detailed and useful reports without insulting anyone directly or indirectly.

X


It’s the guys who complain about and harass (in an uncivil manner) other members who make the forum a hostile environment.

And again as for guys talking about fine dining, nice hotels and clothes, I would much rather read about that than some guy posting about how he rubbing pennies together just to monger. For me this is just short of pathetic.

[Puerto La Cruz]

You never picked a pissing match about something innocuous? OK, maybe you didn't when you were sober.

You information is valuable. Best to keep it in that context.

[Cunning Stunt]

He consistently gives detailed and useful reports without insulting anyone directly or indirectly.
X

.... and we all could probably learn from his example. But we don't and that why the threads can be edgy sometimes. Wouldn't it be so tedious and unnatural if we all were sweet and polite to each other all of the time?

Mind you I do recall him having a pop at somebody who had wound him up sometime. Perhaps it was on the DS forum. Or maybe I dreamed it:).

Unfortunately he doesn't seem to monger much anymore, certainly in The Philippines, so few actual reports. His reports from Cambodia of a couple of years back were the epitome of good report writing and were of great use to me as I visited PP shortly after he had been there.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks X, CS and Warbucks for the kind words. CS, I'm planning to go back to Cambodia in a couple of months, and, if I see anything interesting, I'll report back on that forum. I'm in a pretty settled relationship here in Davao and I don't want to do anything that would unsettle it, which is why I tend to restrict my posts to fairly mundane topics, though I read others' posts about the less-than-mundane regularly and enjoy them.

The problem for me, as it probably is for many who are in relationships, is that you can never be sure who reads these posts, and thus you can never anticipate when one will come back to haunt you. I suspect that there are many more lurkers than posters, and if just one of them knows someone who knows someone who knows your partner, it's nothing but trouble. Besides, being well above the median age of most members of this illustrious group, I've pretty much "been there and done that" during earlier stages of my nomadic life.

GE

[PolyOrchid]

The problem for me, as it probably is for many who are in relationships, is that you can never be sure who reads these posts, and thus you can never anticipate when one will come back to haunt you. I suspect that there are many more lurkers than posters, and if just one of them knows someone who knows someone who knows your partner, it's nothing but trouble.GE,

You are so right, mate. And the potential for embarassment or more rests not only with girlfriends or wives. I used to post in the Colombia forum and someone there, who remains unknown to me to this day, copied some of my posts from this forum and published them in another non-ISG like forum to cause me professional embarassment.

Although I have found many, many, upstanding, generous and helpful posters here, our numbers are not without some very sick and spiteful bastards as well.

[Robbaf]

I boast on these forums but for me as I have stated countless times its all for entertainment purposes. I tell guys if you’re not a millionaire you have no room to boast about your financial status.
Does Peso millionaire count:D

Robb

[Cunning Stunt]

Does Peso millionaire count:D


Maybe he meant in Indonesian Rupiah, in which case I am a billionaire:D.

[Cuba Tourist]

I wanted to thank everyone who helped me with advice before my trip to Davao about four weeks ago. I had the opportunity to meet one very nice gentleman who lives in the city and received help with a particular lady from another gentleman who lives on a faraway island in a much colder part of the world.

I certainly had a good time but could've been a lot better. I take full responsibility for what could have been. Specifically, I made two big mistakes. Both of them deal with how I dealt with that date in Asia website. The first mistake that I made was in not spending a lot more time figuring out how to keep better records. What ended up happening is that I just e-mailed a bunch of women the day before I arrived. I would then check to see who had responded most recently and I would answer them. I met several of these women and they turned out to be very fearful of sexual interaction.

Once I returned to the United States, are found that I had corresponded with dozens of women from this city, most of whom gave the impression of being much more together. If I had very carefully constructed files, I would've had a much wider selection and would have had a much better time.

The other thing that I did wrong was not to be sufficiently clear. In Cebu, this was not necessary. Women understood that we wanted to meet them in order to have a relationship with a lot of sex in that relationship, and we wanted that sex to start from the very beginning. But in this city, many of the women -- at least the ones I met -- wanted to avoid exactly that.

It would have saved a lot of time and frustration to have made it clear -- as my English friend has advised -- exactly what I wanted. It didn't have to be crude as in I want to fuck you immediately but it could have simply taken the form of the date will start with a little walk around town, progress to dinner, and then end with an overnight in the hotel.

There is something about the city which is quite nice. It is a little bit primitive, using that term in a positive sense. I might consider going back, although I would do a lot more preparation.

[Marconista]

After reading the latest reports in DS Davao "private" forum here on ISG, and posting a comment which need to be approved by the "Dragon Slayer" himself I am sure he will be deleting the report as he is in charge of sensoring whatever is posted in his thread.
Therefore - this is what I posted in comment to his totally ridiculous report on the comments people post in "his thread".

I am very pleased with the fact that Jackson a long time ago limited his posting possibilites to his own thread, but nevertheless, Jackson should still limit his posting possibilities whenever the smell of alcohol or other illegal substances may be the reason for his stupidity to post instead of reading reports and comments, and sit back for a day or two, reflect, and then post a comment on fellow ISG'r posts.

QOUTE
DS,
You are a LOW LIFE CREATURE.
I have been following you for some time, and you do have good info in between, but most of your posts are truly low life.

I am sure most of the member of ISG are happy that you are limited to post here, as you are an embarrasement to human beings, mongerers or not. BASTA.

GET A LIFE - Mr. Low Life.
UNQUOTE



Whoever you really are you are a pathetic hypocrite and an ass! What you are doing to Spooks is not only dishonest and unethical, it IS ILLEGAL! You are a sick creature and you belong in jail!
It was only yesterday that I learned what you were pulling and the Extortion and Threats you are making against decent people. I thought Spooks was just paranoid or something until someone informed me of YOUR ACTIONS.

GOT YOU OUT OF YOUR CLOSET YOU PATHETIC ASS! Next is to see you arrested and in jail where you belong. Whether a religious fanatic orjust another criminal (most likely), you are disgusting.

And STUPID! I accomplished a part of what I wanted to do. Determine if Spooks concerns for his safety were real as explained to me by someone last night via telephone.

Now stay the hell off my Forum you creep!

Jackson this creature is trying desperately to destroy a decent guy and is blackmailing and extorting others from this Forum. He belongs in jail but will do what he can to disrupt us all here. Sick, twisted fuck.

Spooks, I owe you an apology for not taking your concerns serious. Just thought you were paranoid or scared of your own shadow. Again, I apologize to you.

Dragon Slayer

[SergeantRay]

I've been reading and posting for years on Dragon Slayer's forum and I don't see what the problem is. You might criticize him for being bragadocious. Big F'in Deal.

If you don't like his forum, great. Don't go there.

Personally, I enjoy his posts and go there all the time. If you think he's full of crap, why go there? Why post antagonistic crap on his forum? Just go elsewhere.

You've got to give him credit for posting a lot of info on Mindanao. When your output matches his, then I'll be more sympathetic to your complaints.

[Pompolino]

I've been reading and posting for years on Dragon Slayer's forum and I don't see what the problem is. You might criticize him for being bragadocious. Big F'in Deal.

If you don't like his forum, great. Don't go there.

Personally, I enjoy his posts and go there all the time. If you think he's full of crap, why go there? Why post antagonistic crap on his forum? Just go elsewhere.

You've got to give him credit for posting a lot of info on Mindanao. When your output matches his, then I'll be more sympathetic to your complaints.I agree with you totally SergeantRay - everyone has a choice on this forum and I have learnt heaps from him and the postings on his board.

P

[GoodEnough]

I was just reading Marconista's post in DS's forum. It sounds like the spittle was flying from his enraged mouth as he was writing! It's unfortunate that he's not a better writer.

I've never pretended to understand guys like him, who seem to extract some pleasure from their own red-faced outrage. My reaction, if I found a site that angered me every time I read it, would be to simply stop reading it, but guys like this seem to revel in their own self righteousness. They've obviously got some serious psychological issues.

There's another guy (or maybe it's the same guy using two different names) who is ranting on DS' forum about his moral crusade to "shut down the brothels." Guys like this are actually hysterically funny, immersing themselves in sex forums only for "research" purposes no doubt, so that they can gather ammunition to go tilt at windmills. Why these imbeciles think anyone with any authority would actually pay any attention to them is mystifying, but they do add entertainment value to this site I suppose, and to any other site on which they routinely post their outrage.

Since DS cannot post on this forum without giving up his own forum, it seems a bit unfair to attack him, knowing that he cannot respond. On the other hand, I have no such constraints. I think that DS has probably posted more useful information...on bars, clubs, restaurants, hotels and other vital areas of information, than anyone else who writes about Mindanao. The information that he presents is accurate, interesting and timely. Those who aren't interested in what he has to say can simply avoid reading his forum.

Though I don't know (thankfully) either of the two guys currently ranting and raving about DS, I imagine they're misplaced on this board, and would be better off on a site dedicated to moral crusades.

GE

[Finrod]

There's another guy (or maybe it's the same guy using two different names) who is ranting on DS' forum about his moral crusade to "shut down the brothels." Guys like this are actually hysterically funny, immersing themselves in sex forums only for "research" purposes no doubt, so that they can gather ammunition to go tilt at windmills. Why these imbeciles think anyone with any authority would actually pay any attention to them is mystifying, but they do add entertainment value to this site I suppose, and to any other site on which they routinely post their outrage.
I must have way too much time on my hands today... I thought that poster name sounded familiar so I did a few searches. That poster name has a rather vile history on display in at least one other Philippines-related forum. Disclaimer: that we might be talking about the same guy is only an assumption, but it is curious if nothing else. After all, his writing style in DS's forum is not that far off his writing style on display at this link.

http://www.vap-ripoff.org/Blog/A_guy_living.html

Some interesting stories about him have surfaced in at least one of the Yahoo Philippines forums that I know about.

[GoodEnough]

I must have way too much time on my hands today... I thought that poster name sounded familiar so I did a few searches. That poster name has a rather vile history on display in at least one other Philippines-related forum. Disclaimer: that we might be talking about the same guy is only an assumption, but it is curious if nothing else. After all, his writing style in DS's forum is not that far off his writing style on display at this link.

http://www.vap-ripoff.org/Blog/A_guy_living.html

Some interesting stories about him have surfaced in at least one of the Yahoo Philippines forums that I know about.

Thanks very much. I followed the link and made a PDF copy of the page. I'll send it to DS tomorrow. With his picture and with that description, and knowing that he's likely in Cebu, he shouldn't be hard to track down, particularly thought DS' contacts.

GE

[Member #4491]

No idea about anything here, but it seems this Dean fucked up this guys life pretty good once.

http://www.fortheloveofrex.com/

B

[Thaifun]

After weeks in the hills I decided it was time to restock supplies and go to the big city.
It was the first time in 18 or more months that I stayed overnite in Davao. Having been stuck in rather small clubs for a long time I figured to refresh my love for Station 91. I had good times there and meet nice people.

On Friday night the place was almost deserted. The setting had changed. The stage was altered while the main hall had remained pretty much the same.

I noticed a sad lack of female patrons. Before it was easy a ratio 1/2-3 now hardly 1-1. Maybe the girls were tired from work or had a long Saturday shift ahead of them. The sexy dance show did not generate any candidates so they swapped it for sexy male dance. OK, I m out of the place and strolled back home after a while. Bad luck, it happens.

Saturday afternoon I touched base with a gal from DIA. She works as a supervisor for 4 mall shops in Davao. Beverly something. Good looking. Not too small, shapely with all in the right place. On my inquiry what her plans for the evening were, she came up with some problem. She's so shy. Alright. In the end she needed 4K peso as her salary was too small. I signalled that fully understood her situation and advised her to work for a porn website or as a cam girl. Better money and no real intercourse. Adding that I doubt that her performance would merit 4K and guys might feel cheated. I really dont know why she was mad at me after all that good and free advice. Some other DIA contacts turned out to be, yes, gays or simply useless as that Beverly.

Saturday night. I walked in around 12 and the place was packed. First I noticed increased entry prices. Now 40 for the main floor and 30 for the upper parts. Never saw that and never had paid more than 20 (a price that keeps the life stile experts away :) ).
The place had a ratio of 3-1 men. Worse a f..ing gay and a ladyboy on the stage. I did not believe my eyes. The waiter said that they would be gone soon. They carried on singing worse than KTV noise and did a joke set. I was getting pissed like hell. Then came Miss Valentine Day 2010. 5 gals. I tried to detect some fake woman but light was not too good and 2 suspects had their numbers strategically place covering up any incriminating evidence. Next comes, right, the fucking gay and his ladyboy ****. I had a good look around and noticed that at least 50 % of the whole crowd were either gays or ladyboys. Time to leave. The 5-6 good looking ladies were surely busy with their gay friends.
At the entrance/exit I told the old chinese guy at the cashier that he had turned his place into a disgusting piece of shit and that they would never see me again. He made a stupid face. I just added that he could read my thoughts on the web together with a warning. A promise kept. Fuck them.

Sad that station 91 is gone. Venue was no big loss as it was a place for waitresses with an attitude on their day off.

I had a look at Torres and the open air dance places on the top floors. Walked in, immediately surrounded by the same buttfucker crowd. They had no idea how narrowly they escaped a jump over the edge of the floor. Lots of nice gals but mostly escorted. Another time.

I ended up in a rock club. Had some snacks and listened to the music. It was late 2 AM so all women had found their saturday nite lover already.

In sum, 2 disappointing nights but it was good to update. I got the shopping done, fixed the date for tonite back at the other place and will be gone for the next weeks till my flight is due.

Fine dining:
Golden Chicken opposite Gaisano is open 24 hrs. The attractive ladies serve fine deep fry chicken with rice. It goes well with some Pepsi or bottled water. Make sure you catch the pieces when they are freshly out of the fryer. Due to their huge success this place went upmarket. Now it is 26 peso for a piece of chicken with rice. Just chicken is 20 as opposed to 18 before. Never good sick and it is a sure watering hole in the middle of the night. There is a discussion if Jenny's Fried chicken 20 meters up the road is better or not. Well, the jury is still out. Jenny's sometimes suffers from the KTV right next to it which could spoils the atmosphere. Perhaps more critically - they dont keep open all night. Both places draw a splendid array of people. A knowledgeable local business crowd (taxi drivers), aspiring young talent (student ladies), Davao yuppies from the local call centers, and an expat food critic = me. For blowjobs after midnite just cross to the Gaisano drop off zone on the other side of Laurel. Expect to pay little more than for the fried chick but better keep you're eyes closed. It's just like at the bank.
Security is provided by some odd street dog outside that rightly expects some left overs. I m particularly popular as I dont eat the fatty skins. Dogs love me even more than the ladies.

Another item:
As for safety. We had some general advice on this board that rural Mindanao is not safe for election reasons. Well, the last shootout was in Gaisano South with 1 man down and more to come this past Thursday.

I spent weeks in the area, walked alone through dark alleys at night, was in buses, vans, jeepneys etc. Perfectly safe. Unless you're a dirty missionary (evangelical idiots) or a US citizens. The various groups operating in the region do not like visits of US and government forces and make sure no spies come close. When new to a place, I have my 5-10 people inquiring my details and then it's fine. Muslims in Mindanao are very reasonable and after being approved of they make sure you're fine.

Not much to do in the line of hookers unless you're into the scene along the bank near quirino in davao. So be either drunk or terminally ill. I spend my time with the good gals from DIA and in the small clubs.

While walking around Davao alone this weekend. Last weekend I walked into the club in another place, the bouncer greeted me his old acquaintance. We sat down and chatted. A pretty gal came by, not much English. I learned she is the singer of the hiphop band and she likes me. 20 Minutes later she had me in my room. She left around 8 am, I was happy that I could check all joints and a now terrible sore and soft part of mine. Expense? 100 peso for the taxi. She wanted to join me at the beach but we lacked a common language other than sex. Too bad.

Finally:
I m pleased with the energetic debate on Davao. For a long time, I had asked myself can those guys be serious when reading their stuff on the other section. Well, now we know they are not. As we learned here, they (2) write for entertainment and dont want to be taken too seriously. Problem is, the attitudes towards even mildest criticism or expressions of doubt over there do not confirm the disclaimer. Looks to me like a cheap way out and a backing off in face of the facts. Some might think that I m too harsh, dont have the right to make such statements due to a lack of posts or we should just be nice to each other. The last point is well taken but does not apply given the history of flame established by others. Posts? Well, I have probably more days in Mindanao on my shoulders and the dates that come with those than the majority of posters who are not residents here. As my dates are not P4P it is of little value here, plus one needs enough time and sensitivity to operate in those places. Add to that hours on buses and jeepneys. Finally, I do think that harsh criticism is absolutely in place and even mandatory. The entertainment writers simply maintained claims even when proven wrong for a long time as in the case of Camus Str and the convenience store there. They might think that this is funny. Well, it is not. Like with a lot of their other junk, unsuspecting newbies took their info and fell flat on their face. In more developed segments of the board such bluffs would have been outed a long time ago. In the case of Davao there is limited input plus a fairytale land had been created. Thus, the reality check and somewhat energetic discussion here will, I have no doubt, save some other readers from sad disappointments.

Almost noon, time for the bus to the hills. Davao it was nice but tonite is the nite!!!

[Member #4491]

Thaifun, thanks for fun reading. A balanced picture of Davao, indeed. And to be frank the place gets more dull every month. People seem to have less money. Wonder why, Sherlock? :-) Much has been exaggerated over the years, but a lot of what was written is and was true. But the repetition if these facts made Davao come across as heaven, and it is simply not such an exciting place for neither night clubs or P4P. As both GE and DS pointed out as well, many times.

The pure fact that Station 91 was ever considered one of the best clubs bear witness of what this city can offer. Sometimes when we fall in love with a lifestyle, we get carried away and confuse this lifestyle with the place we are living it in. Once the reality goggles get adjusted we see the location more balanced.

I often get the question from colleges or friends if I can recommend Davao for vacation, and I NEVER said yes. It is useless for vacation, if you do not own a boat or some other mean of transportation. And even then it is pretty far behind many places in Asia, Europe or South America. To go there with your gf is pointless, unless you plan to live there for some reason. Paradise Beach or Camp Holiday gets boring the third time you visit, and where else can you go for a spontaneous beach visit?
I love Davao, and I welcome the adjusted picture of this place. A retired expat who lives with his wife, or a guy with many local friends can and will have a good time, just as anywhere. But to trade Davao for Chaweng, Ibiza, Singapore or London is a mistake.

My last trips I experienced Davao as duller and more quiet than ever. It used to be that you could go out 3-4 nights a week and find loads of people in several places. Music events and pretty ambitious night club attempts was common. Today you risk rubbing elbows with a only a hand full of pinoys and some desperate mongers even on a Saturday.

Barba

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[Marconista]

ROFLMAO... me - moral crusade?
I may have only about 200 posts, but been around since the older days of WSG, and there is only one "me" here, with no other agenda.

And - as most posters in the RP, I also dont suffer from verbal diarrhea which some most certainly do. Before commenting on languageskills again, as I have seen is a cool and fun thing by some to do to dupe people; Its a second language to me and most members of the ISG.

Enough said by me on this.


...his moral crusade...
GE

[Warbucks]

Some very disturbing flaming we have here. Guys threatening to go to the LA on other guys. Guys putting up wanted posters like the old west.

Only thing that is missing is Mattrick who never failed to show up during my flame wars. Perhaps after discussing cheap airport taxis and pointing newbie's in the direction of the nearest SOGO/Eurotel he can weigh in with his immaculate insight.

[Sxxxx]

Marconista

Yes hats off to you people who write in English when your first language is not English. Those who criticise, quite often can not spell cat in any other language than their own. Yet they claim otherwise, LOL.

Thaifun

Thanks for update on Station 91. Sad the faggots have taken over that place.

Entertainment writers, you refer to. I like them if they are not arrogant, braggard, bullying types etc. But sadly that is not the case in that particular forum you were referring to. When Entertainer degrades other people, its not entertaining at all.

I liked posters like 'The Departed', who shouldn't be taken seriously, and new kid on the block Kumba in Bangkok reports. Maybe tiring of latter by now, but he was good for a short while. Departed was crucified by the prudes and has move on, unfortunately. He was a character.

Yes, I think your kind of reports will help the newbies arrive at a more sobering view of Davao City and its potential. As we know, fairytale reports are for adolescents, LOL.

[GoodEnough]

Thaifun, thanks for fun reading. A balanced picture of Davao, indeed. And to be frank the place gets more dull every month. People seem to have less money. Wonder why, Sherlock? :-) Much has been exaggerated over the years, but a lot of what was written is and was true. But the repetition if these facts made Davao come across as heaven, and it is simply not such an exciting place for neither night clubs or P4P. As both GE and DS pointed out as well, many times.

The pure fact that Station 91 was ever considered one of the best clubs bear witness of what this city can offer. Sometimes when we fall in love with a lifestyle, we get carried away and confuse this lifestyle with the place we are living it in. Once the reality goggles get adjusted we see the location more balanced.

I often get the question from colleges or friends if I can recommend Davao for vacation, and I NEVER said yes. It is useless for vacation, if you do not own a boat or some other mean of transportation. And even then it is pretty far behind many places in Asia, Europe or South America. To go there with your gf is pointless, unless you plan to live there for some reason. Paradise Beach or Camp Holiday gets boring the third time you visit, and where else can you go for a spontaneous beach visit?
I love Davao, and I welcome the adjusted picture of this place. A retired expat who lives with his wife, or a guy with many local friends can and will have a good time, just as anywhere. But to trade Davao for Chaweng, Ibiza, Singapore or London is a mistake.

My last trips I experienced Davao as duller and more quiet than ever. It used to be that you could go out 3-4 nights a week and find loads of people in several places. Music events and pretty ambitious night club attempts was common. Today you risk rubbing elbows with a only a hand full of pinoys and some desperate mongers even on a Saturday.

Barba

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Thanks Barba for your judicious comments which are, as always, accurate. I would differ with Thaifun on his choice of eating places as fried chicken eateries don't make it onto my list. Other than that, I have no quarrel with it.

As you indicate, and as DS and I have said many times, this ain't the best place for paid sex--in this country, Cebu, Angeles and Manila are doubtless better. There are P4P establishments here to be sure--though it's been years since I've been to one--but there are more an better such places in the aforementioned cities.

However, as your own experiences, and certainly those of DS tend to demonstrate quite well is that, with some style and a little game, it's a very easy place to meet non-pros. I've never said, nor did I ever mean to imply, that Davao is any sort of edenic experience. It's clean. It's safe. On balance, it's a good place to live, with four or five decent restaurants and one or two decent shopping areas. I prefer it to Manila since I cannot stand the traffic there and, aside from Greenbelt and a couple of other small areas, the place is unappealing to me. I also prefer Davao to Cebu, because I don't like Cebu's traffic, it's air pollution or its ever-dwindling water supply.

Out of all the countries in SE Asia, the Philippines is (my opinion only) not the best in which to live. I would prefer Singapore, or Thailand, or Vietnam and perhaps Malaysia. But you don't always get to pick and choose, and on balance, it's not a bad place.

GE

[Pompolino]

Thanks Barba for your judicious comments which are, as always, accurate. I would differ with Thaifun on his choice of eating places as fried chicken eateries don't make it onto my list. Other than that, I have no quarrel with it.

Out of all the countries in SE Asia, the Philippines is (my opinion only) not the best in which to live. I would prefer Singapore, or Thailand, or Vietnam and perhaps Malaysia. But you don't always get to pick and choose, and on balance, it's not a bad place.

GEGE,

How are things politically in terms of safety following the imposition of martial law. I was in Davao over March and April last year and had a fantastic time and wish to repeat but the media I get is very much concentrated and probably exaggerated. I know you travel widely throughout the island but I am specifically talking about Davao. My Manila based GF says I'm crazy to think about going there now but she also said that last year before she fell in love with the place herself. The massacre was shocking and the discovery of the huge cache of arms across the island was scary from an outsider's perspective. The apparent involvement of the elected officials and police makes one have to think about how close things got to a civil war.

I know this goes a long way from the original purpose of this board but you are on the spot and would appreciate your perspective on how things are at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

P

[Member #4491]

You did not ask me but I just got back from Davao, and it is just as safe or unsafe as ever. Maybe even safer due to the 1000 000 road blocks and check points.

Barba

[GoodEnough]

GE,

How are things politically in terms of safety following the imposition of martial law. I was in Davao over March and April last year and had a fantastic time and wish to repeat but the media I get is very much concentrated and probably exaggerated. I know you travel widely throughout the island but I am specifically talking about Davao. My Manila based GF says I'm crazy to think about going there now but she also said that last year before she fell in love with the place herself. The massacre was shocking and the discovery of the huge cache of arms across the island was scary from an outsider's perspective. The apparent involvement of the elected officials and police makes one have to think about how close things got to a civil war.

I know this goes a long way from the original purpose of this board but you are on the spot and would appreciate your perspective on how things are at the moment.

Thanks in advance.

P
As horrific and shocking as the massacre was, it didn't occur anywhere near Davao, but in Maguindanao, the province adjacent to Cotabato. I've been to Maguindanao on business a couple of times, and believe me, there's no reason for anyone to ever go there unless he has to.

Davao is and will remain safe and secure. On the other hand, it's important to remember that this is election season, and Filipinos settle disputed candidacies with guns and assassinations. This is true not only in Mindanao, but throughout the country. So while Davao is safe, the threat of potential violence (not directed at foreigners), increases throughout the country during the election period.

Naysayers will point to the recent shoot-out on the fourth floor of Gaisano South Mall to dispute the contention that Davao is a safe city. However, the shooting involved one of the Ampatuan (the perpetrators of the massacre) bodyguards trying to kidnap one of the children of Mangadadatu (the intended victim of the massacre). It's most likely that this was an isolated incident.

The atmosphere here is strictly business as usual. The restaurants and bars are full on the week ends, the streets are crowded, and the city is calm. My judgment is that Davao is, and will remain safer than Manila. The press paints all of Mindanao as a Filipino version of the wild west which of course it is not. Most of the violence, whether the Muslim insurgency, the NPA or clan rivalries, occurs in places that no foreigners would ever think of going. CDO and Davao are well-protected, well-policed and remain safe. You need have no worries about coming here.

GE

[Bronxnik]

Ampatuan (the perpetrators of the massacre) bodyguards trying to kidnap one of the children of Mangadadatu

That's the claim of the gunman. The local newspapers repeaterd it verbatim. Pegs my bullshit meter.

Dvo is neutral ground for the maguindanons. There is zero history of them even trying one time, to wreck the peaceful oasis which they both need. Until these Mangadatu guys chased down the Ampatuan guy and murdered him in cold blood. He panicked and ran into a dead end. The cul-de-sac where they have the kitchenware.

Kidnappings are always for ransom in Mindanao. And they are orchestrated. It's a business.

A random encounter in the supermarket, leading to a kidnapping? Not in their playbooks.

History teaches: filipinos never have original ideas. These are not Mossad agents. They are tribals.

Let it be a lesson for the foreigners. You knock up/bug-out-on a chick in Dvo, it's not like being in Manila or Cebu. A police problem.

It's a family-grudge problem, and the fuses are short around here.

[Sxxxx]

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Let it be a lesson for the foreigners. You knock up/bug-out-on a chick in Dvo, it's not like being in Manila or Cebu. A police problem.

It's a family-grudge problem, and the fuses are short around here.Correct. But some have to find out the hard way , lol.

[Orangevale Rob]

I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages/disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?

[X Man]

The advantages / disadv. In relation to what? We aren't mind readers.

Obviously you have the beach, obviously this would be better if you had a gf (or other suitable equivalent) with you. Obviously you won't be able to enjoy some of the nice bars/restaurants that are in Davao proper.

And sorry, I don't understand your last sentence at all. "pay for them"?


I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages/disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?

[Member #4491]

It is an advantage to be on the beach if you like to be there, but a disadvantage if you rather would be in the city.

If you have no vehicle you will be a bit stranded in a Samal resort.

They will in many places charge all guests sleeping in the resort. They will know who sleeps there because they can see them as they enter the premises and the bungalow. I suggest you check in with you girl and pay for a double room.

Barba


I'm fixing to head back to the Phils in July I think. Has anyone stayed at one of the resorts on Samal? What are the advantages / disadvantages? At one place there they say if someone stays overnight you have to pay for them, but how do they know?

[Orangevale Rob]

The advantages / disadv. In relation to what? We aren't mind readers.

Obviously you have the beach, obviously this would be better if you had a gf (or other suitable equivalent) with you. Obviously you won't be able to enjoy some of the nice bars/restaurants that are in Davao proper.

And sorry, I don't understand your last sentence at all. "pay for them"?

I mean, the resort wants you to pay the room rate for an extra person.

By advantages/disadvantages, I mean vs. staying in Davao.

I've been in Davao before, I stayed at the Casa Leticia and the Apo View. I didn't like that "room key to get Air conditioning" crap at Leticia so I moved to Apo View, which was scarcely better.

[GregLondon]

I've spent the last week or so in Davao. I'd been warned that this was a much more conservative place than Cebu but thought that maybe the better foreigner/chic ratio than say Cebu would play in my favour.

After checking TripAdvisor I went for their no 1 recommendation Drifters which is located in an upmarket residential village about 5km out of town. Though not perfect I'm very happy with that choice. Its a small villa style place owned by a really decent British guy called Bert and his wife. Just 6 rooms starting at 1300P (discounts for over 21 days). The rooms and pool area have good free wifi reception there is a pleasant little pool half shaded by palm trees and generally there si a breeze running through the courtyard. the staff are great and after a day oir two if you the sociable type you will get to know all the residents. Mostly foreign guys with a Phils wife or looking for a Phils GF. There is a small pub there which 1 or 2 local regulars hang out in and the food is really very good both British and Phils and reasonably priced. taxis to the centre cost around 100-200P.

The only real downside is the location which is a bit tricky to find (Bert can arrange a free pickup from the airport) . Being a bit out of town its not easy to meet a girl on line and say meet me at my hotel, some will but its obviously easier if you stay at a well known hotel that everyone knows. I would say its a great place if you plan to meet a girl and stay with her for a few days, not so great if you are thinking of getting 3 or 4 different girls a day.

I didn't bother checking out the bar scene here as i heard it is overpriced and poor quality but instead hit my DIA contacts.

If you spend much time on DIA you will probably get quite a few cuties from Davao and surrounding cities such as GenSan, Bislig, Digos, etc. I found that there is alot of "bait and switch" going on. ie girls that will promise or intimate that they will do anything then when you actually arrive reveal that they are no longer in Davao or yes but only when we are married"

The girls 2-5 hours out of Davao in eg Bislig, GenSan will generally say that they will come and fuck your brains out for as long as you want if you can only send them the fare by money transfer. The real one way fare is probably around 100-200P bus fare plus say 100P to get to your hotel by taxi. They will typically ask for 500-2000P . I never send this money as i guess there is a 80% chance you will never see the girl or money. This is awkward if the girl is for real as they will genuinely struggle to get 250P together and need to be 100% sure you will show up and accept them (many guys flake out too).

Most of my DIA / tagged contacts flaked out and actually only one girl was ready to meet in reality. She turned out to be very nice but claimed she had mens (infact she had an Ozzie bf I later found out. Anyhow when she found out I was a decent guy she got on her phone and got a friend to join me who turned out to be better looking than her and red hot in bed.

Unfortunately this girl turned out to be quite high maintenance - rather sulky much of the time and high expectations about being spoiled. Eventually she transferred to the guy in the next door room who is probably more her style, heavy smoker and not as much a cheap charley as my good self. Further work on DIA produced a very nice low maintenance girl - very honest and straightforward 20 year old who hadnt been fucked for a couple of months and wanted to to be banged as hard as possible with no financial reward requested. (Though I gave her 700 for a "taxi" home in the morning.)

In general Davao feels very spread out (and thus 100-200P taxi fares common) , its quite a pleasant place with nice restaurants, but i prefer somewhere more compact. The girls are more Long term GF / wife material than short time funsters (as far as I could see.).

There is a great Korean massage place near Chow King Opposite Victoria mall. Charges about 250-300P per hour depending on type of massage, iT not sexy but you get a nice young girl giving you a proper massage in nice ambient surroundings. i got A Swedish Oil (actually a mixture of all types of massage) massage from Mary Ann she likes to to gymnastics on your back if you are a big guy, which i really like so i recommend her if you like that too.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks for mentioning Drifters Greg London. I always seem to forget that place when I'm asked for recommendations, and it's quite a decent alternative to some of the larger hotels. The problem, as you said, is that it's a bit complicated to find and it's a bit outside the main thoroughfares. I have two friends who stayed there for a year and took three adjoining apartments, treating them as a single unit with two bedrooms and a living room/kitchen area. It turned out very well for them.

GE

[Joppen]

Some places have massage, do they also have erotic massage?

I will live on Apo View hotel. I saw that they have massage there, do you think they can give erotic massage if you pay extra?

[Member #4491]

Joppen, you have many places around San Pedro. Many are very skanky.

Plaza Roman on Cabagio Street is another that was mentioned here about 8000 times.

Many hotels, as well as Apo, can and will arrange erotic massage if you ask (preferably a male from the non upper management staff).

In Galleria they had two numbers. One for a masseuse and one for a masseuse that would fuck you as well.

I met at least one who got a happy ending in the Apo massage. Try and ask. They will not kick you out for asking.

Barba

[T Pain]

It's been a long while since I've been to Davao although my last visit there several years ago had been pleasant. I've never tried hooking up with any of the girls there (although I've heard from my long time buddies there about some good looking ladies there that you could bang your balls out for less than 10 dollars). But I'm just curious. Which places in Davao can you actually roam for a pick-and-score? And what are the usual rates? It's been awhile since I last banged a woman and I figured I could find a potential score there. Female college students, from what I hear, are just some of the most exciting things to come by.

Any suggestions or opinions or take into anything about Davao girls will do. I welcome any contact numbers especially from any potential gals you guys might want me to refer to. Just leave it to my e-mail [Email address deleted by Admin].

Thanks in advance!

Rikki

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[Sxxxx]

It's been a long while since I've been to Davao although my last visit there several years ago had been pleasant. I've never tried hooking up with any of the girls there (although I've heard from my long time buddies there about some good looking ladies there that you could bang your balls out for less than 10 dollars). But I'm just curious. Which places in Davao can you actually roam for a pick-and-score? And what are the usual rates? It's been awhile since I last banged a woman and I figured I could find a potential score there. Female college students, from what I hear, are just some of the most exciting things to come by.

Any suggestions or opinions or take into anything about Davao girls will do. I welcome any contact numbers especially from any potential gals you guys might want me to refer to. Just leave it to my e-mail [Email address deleted by Admin].

Thanks in advance!

Rikki

EDITOR's NOTE: This report was edited to remove email addresses in the text. Please do not post email addresses in the Forum. Instead, please invite other Forum Members to contact you directly via the Forum's Private Messaging system. Thanks!Why don't you read realistic posts like GregLondon , Barba , ThaiFuns , and others below ? Why don't you read through this thread. All the information is here.

The information you are quoting is comic book stuff.

If it was like you said, Davao would be very popular and full of foreigners, but it is not!

Realistic information is on this thread , all you have to do is read it.

And yes phone numbers of those pokes that cost less than $10 and those College Girls , if you secure them , would be appreciated. No hurry.

Thanks.

[T Pain]

atSxxx

I have read the threads like you said. I don't rely on things that are posted eons ago. But I have come across some recent posts that mentioned more than what I was expecting. Thanks anyhow. And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade. It's annoying and the thrill of looking for amateurs is next to zero.

[GregLondon]

atSxxx

I have read the threads like you said. I don't rely on things that are posted eons ago. But I have come across some recent posts that mentioned more than what I was expecting. Thanks anyhow. And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade. It's annoying and the thrill of looking for amateurs is next to zero.

Well my post was just 2 weeks ago.

I think in summary, Davao is a large but reasonably pleasant city. The girls are at least on the surface considerably more conservative than in Cebu and Manila. But with patience and technique you can certainly find some nice ones, however the impression given by your post is of what we would term a bull in a china shop, and Davao is not the sort of place where that kind of approach is going to work.

[Red Kilt]

Well my post was just 2 weeks ago.

I think in summary, Davao is a large but reasonably pleasant city. The girls are at least on the surface considerably more conservative than in Cebu and Manila. But with patience and technique you can certainly find some nice ones, however the impression given by your post is of what we would term a bull in a china shop, and Davao is not the sort of place where that kind of approach is going to work.

Greg L is exactly right. I lived in Davao for 2 years and it is a very conservative city. The girls are very careful about being seen and talked about, and that especially means if being seen with a foreigner.
If you want that College girl scene you described, you will need to put in a lot of work and patience to get anywhere. Unlike Cebu, the girls will prefer that you have your own place and NOT a hotel room.
Even the "organised" sex trade including go-go bars in Davao is much smaller scale than in most of the other big cities.

[Wicked Roger]

Greg L is exactly right. I lived in Davao for 2 years and it is a very conservative city. The girls are very careful about being seen and talked about, and that especially means if being seen with a foreigner.
If you want that College girl scene you described, you will need to put in a lot of work and patience to get anywhere. Unlike Cebu, the girls will prefer that you have your own place and NOT a hotel room.
Even the "organised" sex trade including go-go bars in Davao is much smaller scale than in most of the other big cities.
I would second the above.. The Davao and Mati girls I know and see in the biblical sense tend not to want to be sen out too much especially if in heels and mini skirts.

When I was last there I went out with a cutie but she was dressed nice but conservatively. The Mati girls I know who bussed to Davao just liked to spend the whole time in the hotel room...lovely :D...but would rarely venture to the mall with me in case realtives saw them So my solutiuon is fly them to Cebu or Manila where they can be less inhibited outside the room and inside....am full of good ideas :))

[Sxxxx]

atSxxx

And BTW. I'm not interested in any of that Thai stuff. My next home will definitely be the Philippines and nowhere else. Thailand is way too up front and commercialized with their sex trade..Just to clarify, I was of course referring to a poster by the pen name of Thaifun, I was not referring to Thailand. Thaifun is one of the realistic posters I was referring to, not any country by the name of Thailand.

Philippines is superior to Thailand in some ways, but Thailand is superior to Philippines in other ways.

Main thing I hope guys do not venture to Philippines to exploit the poor unfortunate Filipinas. Treat them fairly, cause compared to us, they have a hard lot in life.

Less than $10 for sex in 2010 is not a fair recompense in my opinion, and should not be aimed at. But then, I can not tell people what to pay, other than a fair price. Whats fair for me and whats fair for others varies a lot.

We look forward to your many and varied posts.

[T Pain]

Judging from the last few posts. I see that a few have thrown in their share of opinions. And I am grateful to know that there are people out there who can share a thing or two about the city. Yes. By far. And strongly suggested. Davao sounds and seems more conservative for every post that I see being put up. At least I'm getting a clearer picture as to how the place is going to be. I have been to Manila and Cebu several times and it's been great. But thing is. Shelling out that much for a bunch of sweet honeys just doesn't cut it for me. I've had some worthy trophies in the past but I'm more leanient in terms of financial scale. The thing that attracts me the most about the city (Davao) is that everything there is cheap. And just recently foreigners have suddenly popped up in numbers. At least that's what I heard. I plan to retire there regardless. I think if you get to know some people I could have a chance of landing a gal on my lap. You'll never know. But I intend to give the place a shot. And it's about time I explore the south for once. And. I appreciate the recent posts two fold. But if you folks know any gal willing to hook up I'm willing to take any info that I can get. It's been very helpful exploring through these entries I tell ya. :D

[GoodEnough]

I guess that each guy's experiences are different. However, what's written below about the reluctance of local women to be seen with foreigners, and about how hard you have to work to succeed with a college girl is inconsistent with the experiences of my friends and my own observations. I've said before, and I still believe, that Davao is probably the best place in the universe to score with non-pro, "regular" women. DS, Barba and others have written profusely about their successes in so doing, and I have witnessed this. Before I got involved in a long-term relationship I too had the same experiences. In short, I've witnessed none of the conservatism that others have described.

GE

[PolyOrchid]

Main thing I hope guys do not venture to Philippines to exploit the poor unfortunate Filipinas. Treat them fairly, cause compared to us, they have a hard lot in life.It's refreshing and nice to see this caring sentiment, and I couldn't agree more. Most Filipinas have a pretty hard lot, and for them to be treated with respect and kindness by us is a very small price to pay.

[T Pain]

atGood Enough:

I'm looking to explore more non-pros. And yes. From what I've been hearing from my buddies down there it takes a bit of work to get around college women. I've been around pros for as long as I can remember. And I don't find it much exciting like I used to. I hear some women (college) do their own freelancing while others still need an aid of a pimp or a mamasan. Either way. I'm hoping I could get a clean score left and right (hehe). It beats having to settle for several of the expensive escorts that I had in Makati and Quezon City way back then. Was also thinking if Davao has any of those low lying massage parlors that gives a bit of that "extra" on the side. I know I did back when I was in Makati. I'm betting since Davao is still a progressing city I can bang a few bucks there for a good massage.

[GoodEnough]

Dragon Slayer and Barba have both written extensively on this subject. DS' posts can be located in his forum. Almost anywhere here--Internet cafes, restaurants, shopping malls, coffee shops, restaurants, clubs--can be productive areas. All it takes is a little game and a willingness to get rejected some of the time. I've said often, that if I were in the market, I would probably just go hang around the area near any of the nursing schools or universities and take a newspaper, a cup of coffee and sit in a high traffic area. To my knowledge, no one has ever taken this suggestion, but it's likely to work.

Dress decently, smile a lot and don't be overly aggressive and you'll succeed.

GE

[Amavida]

atGood Enough:

I'm looking to explore more non-pros. And yes. From what I've been hearing from my buddies down there it takes a bit of work to get around college women. I've been around pros for as long as I can remember. And I don't find it much exciting like I used to. I hear some women (college) do their own freelancing while others still need an aid of a pimp or a mamasan. Either way. I'm hoping I could get a clean score left and right (hehe). It beats having to settle for several of the expensive escorts that I had in Makati and Quezon City way back then. Was also thinking if Davao has any of those low lying massage parlors that gives a bit of that "extra" on the side. I know I did back when I was in Makati. I'm betting since Davao is still a progressing city I can bang a few bucks there for a good massage.Im no expert on Davao but if you want college girls or other straight girls they are there for the taking. Many are quite game as long as you are friendly in a non threatening way.

CB, DIA & Tagged will get you plenty lining up before you arrive. My experience of college girls is that many, _MANY_ are up for snagging a foreigner BF for fun & profit.

Hanging out in Malls & cafe's near the universities will see you approached.

If you must go for rough trade then trike drivers & taxi drivers will take you to see selections of girls.

Have fun!
AV

[Member #4491]

It is absolutely harder to get fast punani in Davao than in Manila or Cebu. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Yes, there are many college girls and store clerks that will date you, but it will cost you money and/or commitment in one form or another. If you want to find ONE girl and settle with her you need not to worry for a sec, my friend. You target will be fixed within hours of arriving. No need to look for contact info to girls here. The tricky part, if any, is to get her in bed. In all honesty I often spend a lot of money on girls. And if anyone is still in doubt - so do Mr DragonSlayer. I also find it very easy to get contact with anyone, so I hook up with 1-3 different girls every day normally. Having this said, I have a few friends, as well as other visitors in Davao I met during the years, that did not meet anyone. Just occasional street walkers. Most often these guys relied fully on me or someone else introducing a girl to them. Or else they where doomed to once again jerk off in their hotel room. Sad but true.

So to summarize.

<B>Pro</B>
few(er) options and many times ugly girls.

<B>Short term girlfriends / dates (note the plural)</B>
Many available but expect to pay, one way or the other. And expect to have to use some charm. If you are shy, Davao can a bit tricky.

<B>Long term commitment</B>
Easy to get contact with some prospects, and if you send out the "I am with you to stay"-signals to the girl it will be simple to develop something beautiful with a pleasant and fairly pretty girl.

You write that you will retire in Davao. I would not worry a minute about meeting someone, mate. Unless you have to have a 10 pointer, a just turned 18-girl, a social class A girl, or some other preference that narrows your selection significantly, it will be unavoidable to hook up with a woman.

[Sxxxx]

It is absolutely harder to get fast punani in Davao than in Manila or Cebu. NO DOUBT ABOUT IT. Yes, there are many college girls and store clerks that will date you, but it will cost you money and/or commitment in one form or another. If you want to find ONE girl and settle with her you need not to worry for a sec, my friend. You target will be fixed within hours of arriving. No need to look for contact info to girls here. The tricky part, if any, is to get her in bed. In all honesty I often spend a lot of money on girls. And if anyone is still in doubt - so do Mr DragonSlayer. I also find it very easy to get contact with anyone, so I hook up with 1-3 different girls every day normally. Having this said, I have a few friends, as well as other visitors in Davao I met during the years, that did not meet anyone. Just occasional street walkers. Most often these guys relied fully on me or someone else introducing a girl to them. Or else they where doomed to once again jerk off in their hotel room. Sad but true.

So to summarize.

<B>Pro</B>
few(er) options and many times ugly girls.

<B>Short term girlfriends / dates (note the plural)</B>
Many available but expect to pay, one way or the other. And expect to have to use some charm. If you are shy, Davao can a bit tricky.

<B>Long term commitment</B>
Easy to get contact with some prospects, and if you send out the "I am with you to stay"-signals to the girl it will be simple to develop something beautiful with a pleasant and fairly pretty girl.

You write that you will retire in Davao. I would not worry a minute about meeting someone, mate. Unless you have to have a 10 pointer, a just turned 18-girl, a social class A girl, or some other preference that narrows your selection significantly, it will be unavoidable to hook up with a woman.

The above is what I call realistic reporting.

And therefore is helpful to newcomers.

The other hyped up stuff , viz , ride into town screw many college students , find short time free sex or $8 sex etc etc is in my opinion misleading.

You can get college students , you can get $8 sex but its just not on every corner , there are things to do , prices not necessarily cash to pay etc before you get your hands on it.

Other towns have more options. Davao city is provincial in outlook , has its advantages , but if your a whiz bang , thanks ma'm guy , I would recommend other places over Davao City.

Total Pain gave me the impression he thought it was a cinch , it aint , there are things to do , prices not necessarily cash to pay. More so in Davao cause provincial attitudes reign. Give me Cebu City where the ***** mentality reigns supreme amongst the regular girls , lol. There's a little ***** in every one of them , bless their souls , lol.

Thanks Mr Barba , formerly Barbaric Barba , now muchly reformed thankfully , for your realistic posting as above. Nowadays I just sit back and let you tell em how it really is. Job well done. Keep up the good work , I am heading for retirement , having landed in Davao first time , way back in early 1970's.

Mr Barba , what happened , this report of yours deserved Report of Distinction classification. Have they changed the software and you have yet to crack the code ? lol.

Realistic reporting , I like it. Hype I detest. Hence you will see me jump in from time to time when blatant hype appears , lol.

For now , end of this particular subject , for me.

Advance Merry Christmas. Don't forget T Pain we need those phone numbers just as much as you do , lol.

[Finrod]

I enjoyed Davao, but it is a bit of work to get the girls there. I only had one DIA contact who was willing to jump into bed with me right away. Everyone else needed more time, multiple dates, meals, chocolates, etc. It was rare for me to be approached in the malls, only happened once that week and I couldn't do much with that girl as I was on my way to a date. That said, there are a lot of nice girls there if one has enough time to explore the scene.

If you want the sure thing, there's always the streetwalkers and the Hot Legs gogos which are not like the AC or Cebu gogos.

[Member #4491]

Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

I suspect the ROD triggers on long reports from posters with less than say 150 posts. Or maybe there is someone who really reads them all and decides. No idea, but there is at least a slight element of randomness.

Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

B

[Wicked Roger]

Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.
Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

B
Barba I agree you are a pervert....I like to learn from you as I am an innocent :D And yes reporting FRs etc gets a tad boring and sometimes pictures and contacts are abused by some so you get the grief. But for good perverts like you there is no issue :))....but no preggies for me even I am not that kinky or naughty :D

Trust we meet soon

[Sxxxx]

Sxxx, I am just the same pervert. The back side of getting to know people here is that you get reluctant to share your stories or pictures of the 35 kilo just 18 girl, or the 8. 5 month pregnant with the cup you just unloaded in/on (how can a girl be 8. 5 months pregnant and still have a tight clam?).

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

I suspect the ROD triggers on long reports from posters with less than say 150 posts. Or maybe there is someone who really reads them all and decides. No idea, but there is at least a slight element of randomness.

Ok, Sxxx and all you other mongers. Keep it sleazy!.

BYours was a Report of Distinction , if ever there was one.

You must be a psychic , how did you know I am a pervert who enjoys a bit of sleaze from time to time ?. With its sleazy street scene , that is one area Davao City beats Cebu City.

My apologies to Davao fans , all six of them. Davao is a nice place to visit if you want a change of pace and want to be reminded just how good the rest of the country is for whoring.

KongKing in the Other Areas thread has come up with a comprehensive report on another Mindanao destination , Cagayan de Oro. Recommend folks read it for an update on that scene. I will use his report for my upcoming trip in September.

It's 7pm , time for my nightcap and then tuck into bed.

[FreebieFan]

The urge to report also wears off a bit over time and I have now realized I was mostly reporting the good moments, stroking my ego. Better to be fair and give a balanced view. All the facts are there in the ROD archive. The rest is just stories.

BI live in KL and am totally fed up of posting there.

Divorced myself from ISG as theres too many dumb boys and shy boys who either don't believe the adventures we can get ourselves into, or who have a bit of WhiteBoy envy.

Frequently when I've made a stunning report about a great night out with public sex for example, 25 private messages follow, asking for name and contact of the girl. As if she would fuck a stranger who calls her ourt of the blue. I gues to those who live in basements etc the stories can seem a bit surreal. But as we know in the world of mongering, great things can happen when you are in the mood, got game and of course got some readies in the wallet!

[Sxxxx]

. I guess to those who live in basements etc the stories can seem a bit surreal. But as we know in the world of mongering, great things can happen when you are in the mood, got game and of course got some readies in the wallet!True, those who have lead sheltered lives will not accept the things we can get up to. But I think most of us can tell the real from the unreal on ISG.

I was hospitalised once, and to entertain the lads in beds around me I told them some of the adventures I have had in life, none of them whoring by the way. Not appropriate in a hospital, lol.

On being discharged one guy turned to me before he walked out the door and said, "God you can bullshit".

He couldn't handle the fact, that he had been married all his life to the same woman and had never been outside his suburb, let alone his own country, and in effect had experienced nothing but the 9 to 5 syndrome, lol.

But I claim those with experience can tell the real from the unreal. That guy in hospital had no experience in life other than paying off a house mortgage and sending kids to school.

[T Pain]

I'll be touching down in Davao in a few days. I can't say if the threads posted here are at all helpful. I'll have to see for myself and dive into action (if there's any). But one thing is for sure though. That being a dj can be an ultimate chick magnet (I do a bit of spinning here and there the past several years). I've heard recently from a friend that some popular hangout along Torres Ave. Has closed temporarily due to some business permit issues and whatnot. I couldn't believe my ears. Says MTS or along Rizal Ave. Is still up. Maybe I'll head right through there first thing when I touch down. And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?

[Sxxxx]

And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?Nurses, now thats another one, LOL.

There is a person who posts regularly re Davao who invited an internet friend of mine to davao to partake of the abundant supply of Davao Nurses. Friend returned empty handed, said it was all hogwash. They were there yes, but ISG poster could not help him get anywhere near them, LOL. Maybe you can, especially if your young.

Internet friend died about two years later without partaking of the much promoted Davao nurses.

Just about everything is possible providing you put the time and effort into it. Just do not think it will be a piece of cake, like some would lead you to believe.

Nurses and Students in Cebu City are not so difficult to get, but still need technique and strategy.

Yes DIA can be a total waste of time too, as some posters have indicated on this thread before. Its a % thing. You will get some nookie, but you have to work on it, especially with the provincial minded Mindanao girls.

The simple fact is you will have to find the girls yourself, very few if any ISG guys are going to hand over phone numbers of girls to someone they do not know. If your living in Davao City, you have all the time on your hands to develop fruitful relationships.

Take up the challenge, and lets know your results.

[GoodEnough]

I'll be touching down in Davao in a few days. I can't say if the threads posted here are at all helpful. I'll have to see for myself and dive into action (if there's any). But one thing is for sure though. That being a dj can be an ultimate chick magnet (I do a bit of spinning here and there the past several years). I've heard recently from a friend that some popular hangout along Torres Ave. Has closed temporarily due to some business permit issues and whatnot. I couldn't believe my ears. Says MTS or along Rizal Ave. Is still up. Maybe I'll head right through there first thing when I touch down. And about DIA. It's full of crap. I've had drastic meetings with women in the past who do nothing but bore you death. And oh. Say. Fork out your wallet while they're at it. I sure could use some contacts if anyone here knows anybody who can bang a guy. I hear nurses are a thrill. Was wondering which hospital or places are crowded with these beauties?
Some of the bars along Torres were closed by the Mayor after he dropped by and found them serving alcohol after 2AM. I understand they're all open again.

Nurses are bountiful there. I suggest you hang around the nursing school at Davao Doctors College. You can't get into the campus (unless you feel like bullshitting the security guards) but the streets around the school are forever thronged with nursing students. However, it is the summer break here, so you will be limited to those enrolled in summer school classes.

There are also lots of nurses and nursing students around Brokenshire and Limasol Hospitals and the Davao Medical Center Foundation Hospital.

GE

[T Pain]

I'll give these ladies a shot on my own when I get there. After all. Money is power. Especially to Filipinos these days. It's one thing that will reassure me for the time being.

Conservatism is a big thing that I notice in the Philippines. I am praying that I could get several women off the hook. And I'm talking about non-pros. As bad as luck may have it since I'm practically new to this forum I will give it a run and see how my encounter goes.

It's too bad I do not have the necessary connections to reach out to anybody. Not that it's a bad thing. I mean.

Yes. Yes. As I've heard recently nurses and students can be quite as tough to approach unless you've got that right timing (and means of getting to the person). I feel like a hawk circling in the sky with this one. For all I know I could end up sitting by the school/hospital the whole day and get nothing. But it's worth a try. And it won't hurt to begin with

I'm leaving for the Phils tonight and will be in DC sometime tomorrow evening. Will be back and let you guys know how this will all play out. Hopefully it'll be the right "bang for the buck." Otherwise I'll spend the rest of my stay prowling day in and out without a catch. Lol.

[KongKing]

[20th March] After checking TripAdvisor I went for their no 1 recommendation Drifters which is located in an upmarket residential village about 5km out of town. Though not perfect, I'm very happy with that choice. It’s a small villa style place owned by a really decent British guy called Bert and his wife. Just 6 rooms starting at 1300P (discounts for over 21 days). The rooms and pool area have good free wifi reception there is a pleasant little pool half shaded by palm trees and generally there is a breeze running through the courtyard. The staff are great and after a day or two if you the sociable type you will get to know all the residents. Mostly foreign guys with a Phils wife or looking for a Phils GF. There is a small pub there which 1 or 2 local regulars hang out in and the food is really very good both British and Phils and reasonably priced. Taxis to the centre cost around 100-200P.

The only real downside is the location which is a bit tricky to find (Bert can arrange a free pickup from the airport). Being a bit out of town it’s not easy to meet a girl on line and say meet me at my hotel, some will but it’s obviously easier if you stay at a well known hotel that everyone knows. I would say it’s a great place if you plan to meet a girl and stay with her for a few days, not so great if you are thinking of getting 3 or 4 different girls a day.

If you spend much time on DIA you will probably get quite a few cuties from Davao and surrounding cities such as GenSan, Bislig, Digos, etc. I found that there is alot of "bait and switch" going on. ie girls that will promise or intimate that they will do anything then when you actually arrive reveal that they are no longer in Davao or yes but only when we are married"

The girls 2-5 hours out of Davao in eg Bislig, General Santos, will generally say that they will come and fuck your brains out for as long as you want if you can only send them the fare by money transfer. The real one way fare is probably around 100-200P bus fare plus say 100P to get to your hotel by taxi. They will typically ask for 500-2000P . I never send this money as I guess there is a 80% chance you will never see the girl or money. This is awkward if the girl is for real as they will genuinely struggle to get 250P together and need to be 100% sure you will show up and accept them (many guys flake out too).

Most of my DIA/Tagged contacts flaked out and actually only one girl was ready to meet in reality. She turned out to be very nice but claimed she had mens (in fact she had an Ozzie bf I later found out). Anyhow when she found out I was a decent guy she got on her phone and got a friend to join me who turned out to be better looking than her and red hot in bed.

Unfortunately this girl turned out to be quite high maintenance - rather sulky much of the time and high expectations about being spoiled. Eventually she transferred to the guy in the next door room who is probably more her style, heavy smoker and not as much a cheap charley as my good self. Further work on DIA produced a very nice low maintenance girl - very honest and straightforward 20 year old who hadn’t been fucked for a couple of months and wanted to be banged as hard as possible with no financial reward requested. (Though I gave her 700 for a "taxi" home in the morning.)

In general Davao feels very spread out (and thus 100-200P taxi fares common) , it’s quite a pleasant place with nice restaurants, but i prefer somewhere more compact. The girls are more Long term GF / wife material than short time funsters (as far as I could see).

Drifters Apartelle
I took GregLondon’s suggestion and tried out Drifters Apartelle, and I too thoroughly recommend it. Drifters is great value for money and a good place to stay for a reunion with your chat mate (my situation), or with a girl friend who will stay the distance. As GregLondon says, it is not the sort of place you would bring in 3 or 4 different girls a day. Speaking of distance, Drifters is about 9kms north of downtown, and a bit tricky to find. There are some good local eateries on the main highway and it’s a short jumping off point to Samal Island.
Drifters Apartelle would be good for a longer-term Davao stay. The rooms are large and the kitchenette is useful if you want to prepare your own meals, breakfasts. I liked the cellar restaurant/bar atmosphere; and the staff were friendly and helpful. An airport pick-up and drop-off is available. More information is available at http://driftersdavao.com/ and a couple of my photos are supplied.

Davao Girls
There has been a lot of discussion subsequent to GregLondon’s posting about Davao girls and their availability. I think GL was spot-on with his conservative assessment. Davao girls and in particular their provincial cousins require more patience and wooing (gez, that is an old-fashioned word!). And there are more misses than with most other parts of the Philippines is my humble assessment. I have said before that there are 4 stages in a relationship (see: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=754259#post754259) and for provincial Davao the “sniffing” and “fun” stages take more effort to achieve to reach stage three.

KongKing

[KongKing]

Davao is more of a city for meeting chat mates and establishing friendships than for pay for play (P4P). So as part of the relationship building process there is a need to do things, have fun, outside of the bedroom. You can only go to the malls or to People’s Park just so many times before you are looking for new things to see and do with your partner, at least during the daytime. I have been to Davao four times and spent many weeks there over the last few years, and I have previously reported on a number of the local attractions. Blue Jaz Resort is a new one for me, so I report on that and briefly summarise some of the others.

The BlueJaz Resort and Waterpark, is on Samal Island, and is just a 5 minute (15p) boat ride from the Mindanao mainland (not too far from the Waterfront Insular Hotel). It is a new two year old resort, upgraded from what was known as Samal Beach Park. It is alongside, to the east of Paradise Island resort. Entry fee is 90p per head with full use of the facilities except the giant water slide, which is extra. The open-air bar and restaurant have reasonable prices. Last scheduled return trip is 5pm but special hires can be arranged. Some new accommodation is on offer from simple backpacking, to matrimonial units (2700p), to cottages and houses. There are some nice pools, slides, and rest areas; a sandy beach ok at high tide but not much at low tide. It is a good place to rest, or waste, a few hours with your lady. I am giving it a mention here because I have not seen it mentioned before in this forum. More information at www.bluejaz.net/Home_Page.html A few photos below.

Other locations I or others have previously mentioned are:
Paradise Island (adjacent to BlueJaz Resort on Samal island). See: www.paradiseislanddavao.com/
Pearl Farm Resort: Far more exclusive and upmarket: www.pearlfarmresort.com/home.shtml
Eden Nature Park: This is well south of the city and 3,000 feet on the lower slopes of Mt Apo. By the time you have paid for a return taxi from Davao, a local tour and lunch, you would be close to spending 3000p. A few hours there and a local tour shows you much of the horticulture, agriculture, forestry and wildlife of the Philippines. There is a nice swimming pool with a great outlook on a clear day. http://edennaturepark.com.ph/main/
Philippines Eagle Centre: This is located about at Malagos, an hour’s drive south of the city. It is the breeding home of the severely endangered Philippines Eagle; only one egg hatched here in 2 years! Also on caged show are some 10 other species of birds and a few reptiles Entry fee 50p from memory. www.philippineeagle.org/
Davao Crocodile Park: Filipinos are proud of their crocodile park, but it is pretty ho hum compared to some international reptile parks. There are other severely penned reptiles and mammals. www.davaocrocodilepark.com
Jacks Ridge: This is close to the city and a nice place to be on a setting sun. It is the site of a little World War 2 history. It’s a place for a relaxing dinner and serenaded by some local buskers. www.jacksridgedavao.com/
Climbing Mt Apo: If you need a bit of fresh air and exercise on your own there is always Mt Apo. At 10,000 feet, Mt Apo is the highest mountain in the Philippines. It is a two to three day trip for those who are more energetic. I reported on this climb 2-3 years ago. A permit is required, and a guide is a must. Fire restrictions (like now?) sometimes limit the opportunity to climb.

KongKing

[Lostwodpun]

It's nice to see some reality in reports here about Davao. First I would say that there are some absolute beauties in Davao, to me better here than anywhere else. I'm referring to non-WG's or non-pros. I'm no were near the mongering pro as many of you are but can pick up the ladies fairly easy, that being said I would hate to go to Davao cold and no leads. Yeah you can hook up there but you better be ready to work for it. FH was good to me but I did get caught lining up dates with cousins.

[Bronxnik]

If you enjoy paying quintuple the going retail price for a beverage, and listening to melodramatic music played so loud that it drives the speakers into painfully annoying distortion, while surrounded by alcohol-stupor-ified pedicab drivers. The tacky strip clubs of downtown Davao would be your Mecca.

Except as of now, the girls don't strip down any further than bra and thong-panties.

Might change after the election. Or maybe not. Their target audience isn't about to fly up to Cebu, so why should they bother quarreling with the females on the City Council?

[Coogee]

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao?

Just trying to find out if its girl friendly and if any one has experiences why not to stay here. Just planning to spend a couple of nights here to meet a girl from DIA, then will take the bus overland to Butuan on route to relax on Siargao Island.

I am still uncertain about even going to Davao as the girl will not send me any photos other than the one I can see on DIA says she dies not know how, Mmmmm, we will C.

Thanks in advance.

[Coogee]

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks

[GoodEnough]

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks
Barba stays there frequently, and the place is definitely friendly. I don't know anything about the quality of the rooms or the services, but you might want to PM Barba for an overall assessment of the place.

The ride to Butuan from Davao is a pretty long one. As an alternative, you might want to consider flying there from Cebu or Manila. When I was in Butuan about 6 weeks ago, the power outages lasted up to 12 hours, so make sure wherever you stay has a generator.

GE

[Puerto La Cruz]

He GE. Its the girlfriend's birthday coming up soon and she has never been on an airplane. Game plan is to take her from Manila to Davao and she will never know about it until we are near the airport.

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.

I did that once at Dakak outside of Dipilog and won't do it again. Maybe I just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[Red Kilt]

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks

I reckon I have met the same girl Coogee. Butuan is a hole of a place and the road from Davao is long , difficult and sometimes dangerous. Lots of banditry along that road and my employer will not allow me to travel it any more. There is a flight between Cebu and Butuan (Cebu Pacific and very short) and also Davao and Cebu so that is a better way to go IF you think this girl is worth the effort.
Why not chase down a few DIA Cebu girls instead? There are far more of them and the experience is likely to be much better. If you are really hooked on the Butuan girl, then make her take the bus trip to Davao and offer to reimburse her. She will need somewhere to stay in Davao (with you of course) so it could work out well and you will be away from the relatives too who may want to freeload off you.

[GregLondon]

If you decide to go it can be frustrating in Davao as lots of the girls are rather conservative. As I wouldn't want you to go there for nothing, feel free to drop me a line and tell me a little about yourself and if you are this girl's type I'll give you details of the world's sexiest turkey farmer as a backup.

GL




Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao?

Just trying to find out if its girl friendly and if any one has experiences why not to stay here. Just planning to spend a couple of nights here to meet a girl from DIA, then will take the bus overland to Butuan on route to relax on Siargao Island.

I am still uncertain about even going to Davao as the girl will not send me any photos other than the one I can see on DIA says she dies not know how, Mmmmm, we will C.

Thanks in advance.

[GregLondon]

several of my girls in Davao recommended this hotel to me so i think it will be fine

[FreebieFan]

i did that once at dakak outside of dipilog and won't do it again. maybe i just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

thank you.i also once did the dakak thing many years ago. one hour by noisy exhaust rblowing trike to dipolog, where at that time many trucks were full of soldiers on an npa chase.

dakak had no idd calling system so periodlically had to go into dipolog for idd calls.
dakak, aside from being owned by jaloysius of child [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) fame, also had incredibly expensive beers as it knew its market was totally captive.

avoid at all costs.

[GoodEnough]

For me, the choice would be simple: I would stay at the Marco, as I find the Pearl Farm nice, but way overpriced and boring, with little or nothing to do at night and no place really to go on Samal. You could book a nice room at the Marco, and have an elegant dinner at Claude's Cafe de Ville, or Farfalla or Entree at the Apo View; a place that Dragon Slayer really likes but that I've never tried. Afterward, you could go dancing at Chico's or listen to the live band at the Blue Room, again at the Apo View.

This is of course, just my opinion, and I'm a city boy who gets enough of solitude at the beach after about an hour.

GE


He GE. Its the girlfriend's birthday coming up soon and she has never been on an airplane. Game plan is to take her from Manila to Davao and she will never know about it until we are near the airport.

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.

I did that once at Dakak outside of Dipilog and won't do it again. Maybe I just answered my question myself but any input would be appreciated.

Thank you.

[Red Kilt]

.....

Then there is a decision to be made. Take here down to Pearl Farm Resort or book at Marco Polo and stay there. My preference is to stay near Marco Polo with restaurants, bars, and hotel stuff rather than being held hostage at a resorts that apparently has no nightlife other than its nightlife. Neither of us are big drinkers so I would rather keep her busy in a city than being "stranded" at a resort with nothing around it.
...

GE is spot on. Unless you and the gf are very cosy with each other the novelty of the Pearl Farm will soon fade (if Dakak was flat for you). I love PF but only good if you want peace and quiet. Take GE's advice. Stay at Marco P. Dine at Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.
Blue Room at Apo is cool. Pizza at Picobellos on top of NE Mall. Some of the bars and videoke places behind Victoria Plaza are fun too, especially if you are alone hehe

[Sxxxx]

I'll give these ladies a shot on my own when I get there. After all. Money is power. Especially to Filipinos these days. It's one thing that will reassure me for the time being.

Conservatism is a big thing that I notice in the Philippines. I am praying that I could get several women off the hook. And I'm talking about non-pros. As bad as luck may have it since I'm practically new to this forum I will give it a run and see how my encounter goes.

It's too bad I do not have the necessary connections to reach out to anybody. Not that it's a bad thing. I mean.

Yes. Yes. As I've heard recently nurses and students can be quite as tough to approach unless you've got that right timing (and means of getting to the person). I feel like a hawk circling in the sky with this one. For all I know I could end up sitting by the school/hospital the whole day and get nothing. But it's worth a try. And it won't hurt to begin with

I'm leaving for the Phils tonight and will be in DC sometime tomorrow evening. Will be back and let you guys know how this will all play out. Hopefully it'll be the right "bang for the buck." Otherwise I'll spend the rest of my stay prowling day in and out without a catch. Lol.So long as you try, that is the main thing.

Think you have got a reasonable perspective of things in Davao from the hype masters and the realists.

You keep wanting contacts. Geez if you can't make contact with the girls on your own initiative there is something wrong with your self confidence. Piece of [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) stepping up and talking to them ANYWHERE in the Philippines. The worst they will do is smile and say no thanks.

You say your going to try, thats the main thing.

[Puerto La Cruz]

Thanks guys, Marco Polo it shall be.

[Marconista]

I would be hesitant in travelling all the way down there for a girl u have only seen on a pic in DiA. It can be a ladyboy or someone not to your liking.
Even to see her on webcam is not always enough




Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Thanks

[Member #4491]

Hello!

Figured I would share some discoveries about buying punani from the streets of Davao. This only apply to short term transactions and has nothing to do with the art of sustaining long term relations or girl friend relations. I am sure many here could add some real wisdom, but since I keep doing the same errors over and over again I better scribble this down and use it as a reminder for myself at least.

The principal of avoiding prime spot girls.

This simply means that the girls holding the prime spots of say Tlonko or Mapa around see Bank are the ones you want the least. Even if they are pretty you need to understand that they earned this position due to hard core whoring over many months or years, This little band of young females are about as far from GFE as you can come. Apply the following equation: Looks 8 (which many of the prime spot girls easily are). Attitude 3. Performance 3. Total score 4. 6 And this is if you get lucky. Many of the prime spot girls will give you a a hard time to even let you stick your dick in them. They are simply useless. Venture off and pick the grateful ones that did not have 800 km of T-Rex in them already.

Do not avoid the ones that do not speak English.

These girls will normally not be found on the prime spots, but rather in the back waters. They are new to the scene and, as log as a mamasan do not get their hands on them, and will most often neither smile or be very talkative. They are insecure and pretty afraid, The difference between these provincial pearls and the hard core *****s holding the primes spots, is massive to say the least. The provincial pearls are girl friend material that will often trigger your male disposition to care for them and to treat them good. In my experience, some of the girls taking a more peripheral position in the sales&display game on the prime spots, will be of this provincial caliber but I did not yet learn how to separate these from the "are you finished yet"-girls.

Avoid tattoos.

This is one simple. 8 girls out of 10 that have either real tattoos or henna tattoos are a waste of time if you are looking for anything even remotely resembling a GFE.

Never pay more than 1000 peso.

Needs no explanation. Even if you have two girls you pay maximum 1000. They second is only there to hide the first girls inability. Or you have picked up older girls and still should not pay more than 1000 peso for both.

Pick up in pairs.

If you can, you should pick up girls with a buddy. This makes the girls feel more safe and, no matter how useless attitude she has, she will perform slightly better since she feel safe and can split the ride back to see Bank with her companion *****. This strategy can however backfire if you happen to get lucky and get GF material. Then your buddy and his hard core hoe will just be inconvenient.

Do not tip.

1000 peso is to much already. No need to tip just because you want to be loved. The girl will forget you within 3 minutes anyway.

200 peso for a ST room is enough.

If you use a room on say Cabagio you need never to pay more than 200. If you want better rooms you should pick Queensland. The so called yacuzzi rooms at Plaza Roman are pretty far from the spa experience you might hope for when you fork up the 350 peso.

She is never what she seems to B.

Both looks and attitude will often fall like a rock in the ocean once you arrived to the ST hotel. This starts already in the taxi normally. Davao is conservative so the ones that actually prostitute themselves openly have mega issues with attitude and compensation behaviors.

The looks in reality is normally 60-70% of a photo (am I not correct all you DIA users?). Take away another 10-15% once she gets her clothes off.

Take the mamasans number and appreciate the benefits of dealing directly with "the manager".

The Philippines is a culture of middlemen and brokers. No matter what you need to achieve, it is often best done with a middle man. The concept of dealing face to face with anyone involves principles as accountability, transparency, independence and pride of ones achievements. God forgive this ever surfacing in any form in the Philippines. So make a point of getting to know the mamasan and plant the seed of future business in her money hungry mind.

The girl is normally totally uninteresting here since she most likely have about the same ambitions for her future as a hooker, as anyone else doing a job you hate and just want to leave. Talk to the mamasan. She is feared and has the power to revoke a deal. Make a point of becoming a returning customer to the same mamasan. She can normally get you what you want.

In my opinion Davao is pretty crappy when it comes to street action. Or I just got picky from having semi serious relations here.

On a side note – Rizal 183 is happening (again). And the Some Place Else area. But the 2 AM ban for alcohol still stands. Only in the Philippines you would try to win votes by closing bars earlier. May this parody be over with so we can enjoy a drink also after 2 o'clock again.

Yes, MyHotel is a good place. Bring a bed lamp though. The light (yes one lamp) in the room is pretty far from ambient. At 1000 peso it is one of the best values IMHO. Location is good if you want to be close to the "tourist attractions" on Rizal.

All the best from Barba

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[GoodEnough]

I agree. Maybe you should pick a very public place for your meeting; one from which you can escape easily if the lady who arrives doesn't resemble the picture you saw. Even more importantly, it's probably a good idea if you don't tell her where you're staying or for how long you're going to stay. At least that way, the worst that can happen is that you waste an hour or so before making up an excuse and bolting away.
GE

[Finrod]

I agree. Maybe you should pick a very public place for your meeting; one from which you can escape easily if the lady who arrives doesn't resemble the picture you saw. Even more importantly, it's probably a good idea if you don't tell her where you're staying or for how long you're going to stay. At least that way, the worst that can happen is that you waste an hour or so before making up an excuse and bolting away.
GE
When I was in Davao, I met someone with a nice picture on DIA near my hotel, but turned out to be a ladyboy. Fortunately, she was well-behaved and went away quickly and quietly. I went back to the picture again, it was real hard to tell because of the way the picture was posed and cropped(?). So yes, a neutral place is advised. I met most girls at a mall or at People's Park. If your date turns out to be a ladyboy, it's OK to exit out right there, just tell them sorry, not interested and leave. Also tell her not to show up with the family in tow. You don't want to be on the hook for their lunch or dinner. You might want to develop other contacts into possible dates in case this one doesn't go anywhere.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi

Has any one stayed at 'My Hotel' in Davao. Is it girl friendly and would you recommend?

Hoping to meet a girl from DIA, though still a little reluctant as she will not let me see any other photos other than her one on DIA.

Has anyone taken the bus to Butuan? An idea on how often this bus leaves and what time would be useful.

Thanks
My Hotel..good advice given thoiugh personally like the Marco..though am staying Apo View next time

DIA girl...my rule...YM chat and cam and insist on the cam, see her and make sure she is who she says, could be an awful long way to find a LB or worse....(not sure what is worse but you get the drift)...but Coogee if she wont cam with you on chat then she is hiding something and you need to weigh up the risks...or go to Cebu...

[Sxxxx]

I would be hesitant in travelling all the way down there for a girl you have only seen on a pic in DiA. It can be a ladyboy or someone not to your liking.

Even to see her on webcam is not always enough100% correct and sobering advice.

Who says its the pic of the girl your going to meet?

[Sxxxx]

I suggest everyone takes the advice of Barba the Beast in respect of Davao street scene.

I consider him the expert in this area nowadays.

Before the beast , it was me and most probably half dozen others , but not any more , lol.

[PolyOrchid]

I rented a Honda XRM125 from Benteuer for 800 pesos per 24 hours. The bike was like new, and these guys treated me very well. Their website is www.ardavao.com.

[Coogee]

Afternoon Chaps,

I never expected to get so much response, thanks for all the useful information.

Looks like I did not explain myself clearly on my first message. The DIA lass I was planning to meet is in Davao and I was only going to go to Butuan as a stopping point on route to Siargao Island. After my visit in Davao I will now look at flying to Cebu and on to Siargao Island instead of taking the over land trip.

I was to anxious to get a flight booked so have already booked my flight to Davao with Cebu Pacific from Manila. So Davao defiantly happening though only going to spend 2 nights, I have booked myhotel as it seems it has everything I need (cheap rooms, girl friendly and wifi)

Common sense has warned me that something is afoot with the Davao DIA girl not wanting to show me any other photos and the view of the board has just confirmed this. I am a sucker for any one being really nice managed to ripped off in China last year in a tea house scam by a girl with a pretty smile and good conversation, £50 for a cup of tea, lol I should be more wary now.

So I still have 2 nights in Davao. If I decide to meet the lass I have been speaking to on DIA I will take the advice on here and not meet at my hotel so I can make my excuses and make a quick escape if she is not the princess that she has made herself out to be.

I will be taking a copy of ‘Barba’ message with me for some travel reading

My Philippines holiday starts in 2 weeks with flights booked a year ago so can’t wait to get there now. I will let you know how I get on in Davao.

Thanks again chaps.

[GoodEnough]

I suggest you arrange to meet the lady in People's Park. It's got the advantage of being very public and very safe. Also it's located adjacent to many small eateries if you decide you need to take the lady for a cheap meal. There are taxis around all the time in this area if you need to make a quick escape, and it's only a 5 minute ride or so from your hotel.

GE

[Sxxxx]

I never expected to get so much response, thanks for all the useful information.Folks on this thread talk less about themselves , and try to help those in need. Nothing spectacular on this thread , cause Davao is not spectacular in itself. It's a place of respite after all the other hot pussy towns cities.

If the person you meet turns out to be a nightmare , please share with us , could make for interesting reading.

Whilst waiting in the park you will get a lot of smiles from young ladies , which you will have to ignore cause DIA might turn out to be a winner. Nominate a specific spot in the park otherwise another ISG monger might snare your lady before she locates you. Indicate what colour clothing your wearing etc , that will help her identify you.

I will be there in October or November. Of late some good posters on this thread , so will carefully read thread before travelling to Davao.

[The Departed]

I suggest you arrange to meet the lady in People's Park. It's got the advantage of being very public and It is also a hooker pick up joint at night. Fucking hell. This is not Gorki park. The KGB won't be on your tail.

I feel a lot of guys here have never been on an actual date and have next to zero tact.

If you cannot talk yourself out of a tight situation, you should not be in this game.

If you pay the concierge/security guy a few pesos, he will do your bidding. And if it all goes wrong for you, play dumb. Nothing could be easier.

There are lots of steet walkers in Davao and 500baht should be your maximum. All you need is tact.

[Thaifun]

interesting that some guys are deadly scared of spending 50-100 peso on a date. I know it can add up but some preparation and screening can limit this.

I like the McDonald at Victoria. Nice to sit outside and meet there. Meeting in a mall and offering an ice-cream is no crime and the ladies usually dont have the change to afford even that. Euro bakery in Gaisano has some nice pastry now and then. So a little consideration, even if the date does not go anywhere, might be nice. Nothing wrong with being polite.

Dunking donuts is also not too expensive and has aircon if it is hot. Often the girls prefer a meeting spot that does not present them out in the open in front of the whole world. People's park is in my view a bit on the cheapo side. I dont suggest, like some adolescent repeatedly did - just to state the opposite a few posts later (understand those turn-arounds who can) and advise an upscale restaurant. It would be just putting up a show, making her uncomfortable, and establishing yourself as a smug.

The Davao discussions often suffer from an unacknowledged misunderstanding. While the ISG is about prostitution, the Davao environment is mostly non-pro, non-semi-pro and just simple dating.

The monetary aspect of dating in RP is often misunderstood as compensation for services. It is, however, mostly due to the simply fact that the girl has no money for the bus, jeepney etc. and, yes, they do need help. Anyone ever helped his ex-gf back in the old country? Hands up! Mine is already. So there is not too much difference in principle.

I would meet in a place she can reach easily without too much jeepney switching. A place that is down to earth like mentioned above or a small and inexpensive restaurant, chowking is still bearable - or try to Mandarin Garden, a little better.


Aside from the coffee or icecream etc. You might like to dress in a shirt and jeans, not shorts. Use of a deodorant is not prohibited in RP, being shaved equals being clean. Ah, maybe the beer can wait an hour or two.

Last time in Davao I saw two sad specimen on Quirino near the Italian restaurant trying to chat up two girls, right on the sidewalk. Aside from a 35-40 years age difference, that might not count, they looked like, well, sorry, skunks although they had obviously the money to do better.

I approach girls in Mindanao like I would in my old place. Respectful, attentive, and not afraid to pay for that pepsi or ice-cream. It also shows some self-respect.

[Gust81]

Hi folks,

Spend 5 days reading the whole entire 160 pages. Thats mildly horrible.

I actually seem to be doing this thing of getting to know Davao the reverse way.

Signed up at DIA 3 weeks ago and secure a few worthy targets.

Secured my tickets and rooms two weeks ago.

Start doing research last week.

Digest this 160 page thread in 5 days. Had to work in the meantime, so was a bit slow.

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular..

I just need a quick advice. I will be boarding Cebu at the Budget Airport in Singapore, anyone knows if the DFS sells good Champagne or Sparkling Wine?

[GregLondon]

Hi folks,

Spend 5 days reading the whole entire 160 pages. Thats mildly horrible.

I actually seem to be doing this thing of getting to know Davao the reverse way.

Signed up at DIA 3 weeks ago and secure a few worthy targets.

Secured my tickets and rooms two weeks ago.

Start doing research last week.

Digest this 160 page thread in 5 days. Had to work in the meantime, so was a bit slow.

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular..

I just need a quick advice. I will be boarding Cebu at the Budget Airport in Singapore, anyone knows if the DFS sells good Champagne or Sparkling Wine?

Davao can be hit and miss re DIA girls as in general many are rather conservative when you actually get there (yet have no shame in overpromising and being naughty on YM). A couple of the girls I had good luck with 19 and 24 have been messaging me frequently as to when I will go back (answer could be a long time) so I am sure would be keen to meet you assuming you are half decent. The 19 year old is a beauty who is very passionate and sexy in bed (at least she was with me), is articulate and interesting but has some attitude/moodiness/prima donna issues. The 24 year old is more of a 7 / 10 in looks but slim /no baby very willing and easy going friendly reliable personality.

PM me if you would like these as back ups to your existing prospects.

PS I see you are a regular member so u will have to decide whether its worth to sign up to send messages, its up to you but I cant post contact details here as they will get swamped by messages from all the lurkers here.

[Gust81]

Really thankful for the help.

Actually would like to explore first.

In the event that I strike out with the DIA gal,

Don't worry, I will scream for help.

Enjoy Davao on my own first.

Real grateful for the offer of helping hand.

8

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If theres any communication, you can find me with my DIA moniker. Its hidden up in the above message.

[GregLondon]

Wow the Davao thread is so sleepy right now. If anyone is in town and wants a date a chatmate of mine is keen to meet.

She's 21 av build rather cute, and very keen on sex. College graduate with a real job in an office. Says she is just looking for a fun night out and a good seeing to with a half decent guy though i guess some sort of present wouldnt be unwelcome. If interested, PM me and I'll pass on contact details as Im unlikely to make it back to Davao till next year.

[Red Kilt]

Am going to touch down in Davao next week. Will be staying in Waterfront Insular............

What about a report Gust81?
I lived in Davao for 2 years back in the early 2000 days. I love the place and had a ball when I was working there.

I am interested to find out what the current scene is like.

Was Insular Hotel OK or was it too far out of the city for you?

[T Pain]

I sure could use some company. PM me her contact details while you can :) I'm thinking of getting back into the game once this thing sits through. I was supposed to leave a post-report thread on my current encounters about girls here in Davao. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.

[Red Kilt]

............. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.

T-Pain I cannot work out if you are complaining or scoring well or just going with the flow and accepting it..
You seem to have met a few girls including the FLs you prefer but you oscillate between sounding satisfied and then wishing you could do better, even down to asking GL for a hook-up.
I think you should play U2's "I still haven't found what I'm looking for" over and over again.
In my experience, Davao is the sort of place where you don't go desperately seeking but just take it easy, chill out patiently in a good "spider & fly" spot in a coffee shop in any mall and just wait.
If it doesn't happen today it may well happen tomorrow.

[GregLondon]

I sure could use some company. PM me her contact details while you can :) I'm thinking of getting back into the game once this thing sits through. I was supposed to leave a post-report thread on my current encounters about girls here in Davao. So far. It hasn't quite worked well. I've tried a few of those at around the bank (as somebody mentioned from the previous thread), And they were disappointing as expected. I was mainly looking for the GFE-type. And that percentage shrunk to a mere zero when I got there.Worse. These *****s would strike out a lame ass bargain to begin with. I've seen a bunch of 8s and a ton of 0s while I had my way around. I've tried the "victoria plaza" girls too. While most aren't that bad looking I've tried a couple. I also noticed a couple cutie freelancers at the far end. Turns out they were the ones who can provide me with the stuff that I wanted. You name it. I took one with me and ended up meeting with her right the next day at SM for a movie and for some chow.

Freelancing girls are a way to go in my end of the book. The rest who hang out in groups are the ones I highly not recommend for those looking for some GFE action. But if you're a drunk and horny guy then yes. Do as you please. I'm fed up with the bickering and "hurried" attitude of the girls from Central Bank. Even if it didn't work out. Oh well. At least I had some experience and something to say about it.


I agree this is a rather confusing post but Davao can be a bit like that. Its not the easiest place in the phils to score with non pros and I think the pro scene is rather weak. I do have three good girls there and am willing to PM contact details but I can only PM to senior members or premium members not regular members. As these are non pro girls i cant post their YM/profile or they are going to get lots of dodgy guys contacting them and blame me.

If you do decide to pay site membership and PM me please tell me a little about yourself eg nationality, race , age etc so I can let the girls know what to expect.

[Gerd Holler]

...rented a Honda XRM125 from Benteuer for 800 pesos per 24 hours. ..... Their website is www.ardavao.com.
Can highly recommend this.
Owned by a German pilot, who is in and out of DVO, and run by his in-laws.
Nice staff.
Car and bikes are in good shape, and they dont need much paperwork for Europeans drivers license acknowledement.

-G.H-

[Franga]

For those of you looking for a quickie with a SW, you will find a reasonable selection at the intersection of San Pedro and Pelayo Streets. I paid 500pesos for the girl, and there is a ST hotel very close by. The room is closet-like and the bed is a single that is covered by a loose clean sheet. The room rental is 80 pesos (non aircon). It is very low end. 3 of the 4 girls I had were childless. BTW none of them washed their twats after doing the deed. They just whipped their 20pesos knickers back on, and headed back out the door. They invariably ask for a tip, so I handed over 20pesos.

Very close to this intersection is “My Hotel” (on San Pedro St), which looks like it could be Ok to stay but I didn’t check it out. Room rates on a sign outside indicate prices around 1000p per night.

[Red Kilt]

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Very close to this intersection is “My Hotel” (on San Pedro St), which looks like it could be Ok to stay but I didn’t check it out. Room rates on a sign outside indicate prices around 1000p per night.

"My Hotel" is a new chain starting up all over the Phils.
They are marketing themselves as a "family hotel" so they may not be welcoming to mongers with multiple bed mates. This is just a warning in advance because I really don't know how it might play out so if anyone has any updates on this I'd like to know

[GregLondon]

"My Hotel" is a new chain starting up all over the Phils.
They are marketing themselves as a "family hotel" so they may not be welcoming to mongers with multiple bed mates. This is just a warning in advance because I really don't know how it might play out so if anyone has any updates on this I'd like to know

I didnt stay there but a couple of girls i was with who had stayed there recommended it

[Red Kilt]

I didnt stay there but a couple of girls i was with who had stayed there recommended it

Thanks GL but were the girls staying there as bona fide guests or as guests of mongers?
I guess it is a silly question but they may have been with family.

I am interested because there is a big new "My Hotel" along EDSA in Manila and the promo says "Family Groups welcome" which usually, but not always, means that sex tourists are not. Prices look good too.

[GregLondon]

Thanks GL but were the girls staying there as bona fide guests or as guests of mongers?
I guess it is a silly question but they may have been with family.

I am interested because there is a big new "My Hotel" along EDSA in Manila and the promo says "Family Groups welcome" which usually, but not always, means that sex tourists are not. Prices look good too.


They were guests of mongers

[GoodEnough]

The expert on My Hotel in Davao is Barba, who has stayed there many times. I'm quite sure, given that Barba stays, or did stay there, that the place is friendly. In Davao, My Hotel is on San Pedro St. within easy walking distance of Hot Legs 2, but there's not much else to recommend it in terms of location.

GE

[Member #4491]

Oh yes. Friendly indeed.

They did ask me a few times to turn down the music after 10-11 PM when we had champagne and orgies, but I dragged in multiple girls per days, for weeks in that hotel with no problems what so ever. Some of the guards can hook you up with their working friends. Very cute and young girls at times. Have even some of the staff in my phonebook (many pretty OTJ cleaning girls in MyHotel).

Have fun and maybe see you around.

Barba

[Red Kilt]

Oh yes. Friendly indeed.

They did ask me a few times to turn down the music after 10-11 PM when we had champagne and orgies, but I dragged in multiple girls per days, for weeks in that hotel with no problems what so ever. Some of the guards can hook you up with their working friends. Very cute and young girls at times. Have even some of the staff in my phonebook (many pretty OTJ cleaning girls in MyHotel).

Have fun and maybe see you around.

Barba

Great news Barba, and "on-the-ground" news too.
Blows my uncertainty about "guests" right out of the water.

Sounds like a great alternative to Sogo.

[Sxxxx]

.................but Davao can be a bit like that. Its not the easiest place in the phils to score with non pros and I think the pro scene is rather weak.I fully concur with that honest , objective , no hype assessment of Davao City.

Use Davao City as a short break from the other hot destinations like manila , angeles , and to a lesser extent Cebu.

Occasionally you will get an odd hot one in Davao City , but dont go there depending on it.

Personal opinion only, of course.

[Member #1453]

I second Barba. Absolutely no problem with getting guests in. However, did not manage to do any of the cute cleaning girls last time. How did you get lucky? Through the security? Did you have to go to a short time hotel? Will be back there shortly, so info will be helpful. Love to hangout with the local hulk :)

[Member #4491]

Sxxxx you are spot on as always. I see frustration in the eyes of many guys walking up and down the malls like restless Viagra doped up zombies.

If you are not seeing anyone in particular you should make sure to come newly satisfied so you are at easy with communicating a bit before trying the wiggle the panties of your provincial princess.

There will never be any action in the hotel with any of the staff. This needs to be taken elsewhere like Queensland. Just ask the prettiest one to send you a text after passing her your number. Never let any initiative hang on the girl. Send a distinct message that YOU want HER to text YOU as soon as she get's chance.

The guard-pimping was always initiated after talking to them for a while some wet evening. Just about around the same hour when I am starting to talk their gun off them to do some target practising on Davao eatery (never did succeed with this request). No big deal at all about fixing girls. Asia is a broker culture where commission is a main source of income since childhood. Just ask them if they can not introduce you to some cute teenage friend. But make sure you at some point have tipped him with 3 figures before this request.

Not directed to anyone but perhaps the Australian monkey I met last time;
Be civilized and have some self respect whilst you experience this lovely provincial city.

B

[Khun Larry]

Wow the Davao thread is so sleepy right now. If anyone is in town and wants a date a chatmate of mine is keen to meet.

She's 21 av build rather cute, and very keen on sex. College graduate with a real job in an office. Says she is just looking for a fun night out and a good seeing to with a half decent guy though i guess some sort of present wouldnt be unwelcome. If interested, PM me and I'll pass on contact details as Im unlikely to make it back to Davao till next year.

GregLondon I will be happy to give your lady some attention.

My first trip to Davao will be in October. "My Hotel" is on the list for starters until I find budget accommodations 1000 - 1500 near a beach. Anyone can recommend a budget hotel near a nice beach I would appreciate greatly.

[Cheapy]

Headed for Davao on Thursday and lining up DIA girls but with low batting average in CDO, I'm not too encouraged. Yes, have RTFF. Will use Dragon's Dining Guide. LOL

Mr. London, I will PM you. I can share some Cebu.

Cheapy

[Sxxxx]

Myself, I feel a bit chuffed about a brilliant statement I made on the Manila thread, in response to folks just talking, some bragging, about free sex, I posted as follows:

"Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive".

[Cheapy]

Many mongers prefer the smooth shaved pussy but not I.

I'll take black curlys anytime. The look, the smell, the taste is fine by me.

This little lady is not a pro but warmed to the camera. Plenty of hair everywhere.

Enjoy.

Cheapy

[Radical Guy]

Many mongers prefer the smooth shaved pussy but not I.

I'll take black curlys anytime. The look, the smell, the taste is fine by me.

This little lady is not a pro but warmed to the camera. Plenty of hair everywhere.

Enjoy.

Cheapy

It seems that guys like us are in the minority these days. I really hate it when a fine looking lady shaves her pussy. It has such an artificial, antiseptic look, like a department store mannequin.

I love the way a natural, furry bush tickles my nose when I lick it, and the way it preserves a woman's natural feminine aroma. Hopefully the shaving fetish will eventually die out

[Mjames37]

I arrive in Davao today and will check in at My Hotel. I am looking for GFE and eventually maybe a future wife. Plan to stay in Philip. For 3 weeks. Anyone in town? You could join me for a beer and share your experience or contacts would be great.

Thanks for the reports. Great info!

I'll post my report when I leave.

[FreebieFan]

Myself, I feel a bit chuffed about a brilliant statement I made on the Manila thread, in response to folks just talking, some bragging, about free sex, I posted as follows:

"Myself, I have never been able to afford free sex. It's too expensive".Great statement Sxxxx, for those to whom it applies.

For me, free sex never cost me more than was stated in the reports. Guess its all about choosing the right demographic and sticking with a tried and tested plan. And being a tad familiar with ones surroundings.

[Radical Guy]

I arrive in Davao today and will check in at My Hotel. I am looking for GFE and eventually maybe a future wife. Plan to stay in Philip. For 3 weeks. Anyone in town? You could join me for a beer and share your experience or contacts would be great.

Thanks for the reports. Great info!

I'll post my report when I leave.

I'll be arriving in Davao on Nov. 20 for a week. I'll be staying at the Marco Polo and would love to have a beer and hear about your progress to date.

RG

[Questor55]

I fully concur with that honest , objective , no hype assessment of Davao City.

Use Davao City as a short break from the other hot destinations like manila , angeles , and to a lesser extent Cebu.

Occasionally you will get an odd hot one in Davao City , but dont go there depending on it.

Personal opinion only, of course.I've had good luck with DIA girls the few times I've been to Davao. I've made a point of studying maps and becoming familiar with the local geography. I then concentrate my correspondence on those living in the hinterland, nearby, rather than in town. Then I can suggest coming to Davao for a day or two, to meet up. So, Tagum, Samal, Digos, and GenSan are my preferred 'target' area. The girls know that although they 'could' get back home if necessary, that it would be inconvenient and not expected. However, that proximity to home is both a 'security blanket' for them and an 'escape hatch' for me. I'll probably try the same approach next time I go to CDO.

[Bronxnik]

Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.

I don't know where Claude buys his beef, but I've personally ran into him buying stuff at the cheap wholesale Macro outlet on McArthur. From there, he moved on to Gaisano Main supermarket. Yep, he buys stuff there, too.

I suspect he buys the faux Australian beef which Lisa's distributes. The animals are australia-descended and raised on ranches upcountry in Bukidnon province. It's actually excellent quality and I bet my next cup of 25-peso (with one free refill) coffee at McDonalds Ilustre that none of the clowns on this board could tell the difference in a blind test. Lisa's can (usually) supply Turkey by special order. You might have to cut a deal with a bakery to find an oven that can handle one, though. Filipinos think that frying is cooking.

If you want to buy the actual imported beef, go to Swiss Deli just across the street from Damosa Gateway.

There's a steak joint on Torres which has the imported steaks on the menu.

I like to do morning coffee at McDo Ilustre because not only is it economical, but also because I can watch all the Pharma company sales reps faking their breakfast invoices before they head over to Davao Doc. Amazing how much paperwork they generate.

If you don't publicly present yourself like a used dishrag (rules out most of you clowns, I suppose), you can get the McDo gals to put on a fresh pot of coffee for you. There's your 180-peso MarcoPolo coffee for 25 pesos.

[Red Kilt]

Claude's. His steak is the best in the Phils.
.............................It's actually excellent quality and I bet my next cup of 25-peso (with one free refill) coffee at McDonalds Ilustre that none of the clowns on this board could tell the difference in a blind test. .....................

If you don't publicly present yourself like a used dishrag (rules out most of you clowns, I suppose), ...............

Not sure why you are so determined to randomly insult everyone on this board as "clowns" when you sure as hell don't know me or at least 3 other members here who I know personally. All of us are as far away from clowns as you could imagine.

I happen to agree with most of your observations about Claude and his steaks. His secret is in what he does with it after he buys it - ask him sometime.
Unfortunately, your gratuitous insults leads me to believe that you are a bit of a smart arse.
You also obviously don't really have much sophistication when it comes to drinking coffee either, but I will allow you your right to enjoy your 25 php coffee.

[GoodEnough]

Actually, I know where Claude buys his meat, and it is surely not Lisa's meats, but then if you're seriously into McDo's coffee you probably couldn't distinguish the difference anyhow. The best meat sold by Swiss Deli is American Black Angus, and it's excellent. They will cut steaks to your specs with a day's notice.

GE

[Questor55]

Actually, I know where Claude buys his meat, and it is surely not Lisa's meats, but then if you're seriously into McDo's coffee you probably couldn't distinguish the difference anyhow. The best meat sold by Swiss Deli is American Black Angus, and it's excellent. They will cut steaks to your specs with a day's notice.

GEEverything that I've eaten at The Swiss Deli has been good. I find their excellent bread is a particular treat after the hopeless stuff sold in local bakeries. I think they must use cane sugar to make Philipino bread, as it is invariably sweet.
The Swiss Deli bread is the real deal. Several varieties - all of it crusty, chewy, and delicious. To quote Michelin, "worth a journey."

[Sxxxx]

I've had good luck with DIA girls the few times I've been to Davao. I've made a point of studying maps and becoming familiar with the local geography. I then concentrate my correspondence on those living in the hinterland, nearby, rather than in town. Then I can suggest coming to Davao for a day or two, to meet up. So, Tagum, Samal, Digos, and GenSan are my preferred 'target' area. The girls know that although they 'could' get back home if necessary, that it would be inconvenient and not expected. However, that proximity to home is both a 'security blanket' for them and an 'escape hatch' for me. I'll probably try the same approach next time I go to CDO.I havent read any of your other reports, but going on this one, you sound like you know what you're doing.

[Thaifun]

Not sure why you are so determined to randomly insult everyone on this board as "clowns" when you sure as hell don't know me or at least 3 other members here who I know personally. All of us are as far away from clowns as you could imagine.

I happen to agree with most of your observations about Claude and his steaks. His secret is in what he does with it after he buys it - ask him sometime.
Unfortunately, your gratuitous insults leads me to believe that you are a bit of a smart arse.
You also obviously don't really have much sophistication when it comes to drinking coffee either, but I will allow you your right to enjoy your 25 php coffee.


I dont think that he was going after the bms as such. Reading closely it becomes apparent that he makes some very valid observations about certain parts of the forum which I gave up to read.
Nothing wrong with 25 peso coffee by the way. It is a better price than at Donkin Ds.

[Member #4491]

Khun Larry, there are several very cheap places both north ans south of the Samal "gold coast" where Blue Jazz, Paradise, Chemaz, Bali Bali and the others are lined up. You can find accommodation for around and even under 500. But you need a vehicle to take you to/from the ferry. These places are simple and do not be surprised if you encounter bed bugs. I even had this at Camp Holiday in an 1800 peso bungalow.

Going out to(wards) Times Beach and beyond on the Davao side you have several places to stay. I do not want to recommend any since the few ones I tried where crap.

The real problem is to be on a beach where you would even consider sticking your toes in the water AND so be close to anything in Davao.

If the winds are favorable and there is not a lot of rain, the water out at Seagull resort and the point can be OK on the Davao side, but this is an extreme wild card. The water on the Davao side is filled with mud, pollution and shit from the squatter areas. Some days the water at the marina out in Lanang can be clear but then there is all the crap floating in the water. And the green belts of puke looking sea weed.

Since the Sasa-Babak ferry runs until 23:00 you an stay on the Samal side, but still will loose quite a lot in flexibility, and have to spend some time and money on transportation.

I have a bike and drive around a lot, and my opinion is that unless you have access to a vehicle, Davao is absolutely not a place where you can combine a clean beach with being close to the action, as for example in many places of Thailand.

As I mentioned before, Isla Reta on Talcud is worth a visit. First time I was there some five years ago it was more quiet but nowadays I would avoid it on weekends unless you enjoy drinking and listening to karaoke mixed up with beach singing. But this can be quite fun on the other hand.

Kaputian can also be fun to try. Have a go at sleeping in the three houses.

On the east side of Samal you have a couple of places to crash. Very simple and calm places. You can for example take aim for Kaanan going the coastal road and just drive down into the villages you see on the way. But this is far from Davao and Rizal street so bring a companion.

Have fun!

Barba

[Earthb]

I just got back from ten days in Davao, my first trip to Davao in several years. Davao has its charms, but I noticed some changes for the worse.

First, Hot Legs 1 and 2. I was immediately swarmed in both places. I resisted intense LD and VIP room scam pressure. There was only one decent looking woman in both places. One woman wrapped her arms around my arm and would not let go until I was climbing the stairs out of Hot Legs 2, insisting I give her milk money for her baby. Her waist suggested she has no baby, unless adopted. I imagine this is what Burgos Steet must be like, except homelier. I used to be able sit in Hot Legs and enjoy the nude show.

No more. Bikinis only.

I know some here have always disliked Hot Legs, but for me it compared favorably to the better bars in Angeles. Feminine looking women from Mindanao are more attractive to me than the Samar types in Angeles. Bar fines were negotiable down to P1200 or P1500, and you could sit and have a decent conversation. That is all history now. I escaped both places with only P100 damage (entrance and mineral water).

Hot Legs 1 has temporarily moved next to Station 91 on Recto.

Second, panhandlers are now more aggressive, perhaps due to rice prices or tools caving in to their demands. The more people give to aggressive panhandlers, the more of it we get.

I can't imagine how "Hey, Joe. Gimmee money," in a voice tone from the Exorcist succeeds, but it must. I saw one street punk a couple hours after he accosted me gambling with other punks across from San Pedro College, with a pile of coins sitting next to him.

None of the aggressive panhandlers looked malnourished. The malnourished are quietly sitting on the ground with a hand in the air.

One overweight guy rubbed his stomach and shoved his hand in my face. I said no. He turned around and hopped on a jeepney. He can't afford food, apparently, but he can afford a jeepney ride.

Third, I took a long walk just after midnight on Illustre, San Pedro, etc. I was approached by only one woman. There was nothing near Casa Leticia. Most street sex workers must have moved to the Central Bank area or disappeared.

Next time I visit Davao I won't bother with anything other than normal women.

On the bright side, day passes at the Holiday gym on Torres are only P125. The normal women are as friendly and good looking as before, despite the poverty and influx of cads.

[GoodEnough]

Earthb, the next time you're here, I suggest you visit some of the more upscale places like Someplace Else, Bar 183, or any one of the dozens of bars onTorres St. I do ont cruise around here anymore, and it's been years since I've been in any of the Hot Legs places, but the others I've mentioned seem to attract more middle class women,who appear to be looking for a good time, though not necessarily of the P4P variety.

GE

[Earthb]

I skip upscale places unless I have a superb wing person.

My favorite way of meeting Davao women now is to walk down side streets and flirt with women in eateries, sari sari stores, etc. I like the senses of spontaneity and serendipity. These women, unused to foreigners flirting with them, seem the most grateful for attention and affection.

The cell numbers of mall clerks are easy to get, but mall clerks seem a little more world weary, not that I blame them. Wearing caked on make up, standing next to Dickies underwear displays day after day, for a mere few dollars, seems like a soul crushing waste of a degree.

Meeting women by Internet is too canned and boring for my tastes.

[Member #4491]

Anyone that do not just want to take the boat over to Paradise Beach might find this useful:

http://samalbeaches.com/index.php/Resort-in-Samal-Island/Beach/Resort/

[Mahku]

I was here for 15 days in September. Girlie action was provided by Dateinasia, Filipino Kisses, and some introductions by an old flame that was on her way to get married in the US.

This was the first time I used Dateinasia and I met several girls this way. However, only one was up for any bed sports and even she, a nursing student, wanted some financial compensation. The others were good for dates but proved elusive for anything more intimate.

I've had good results with Filipino Kisses before and it was true again this time, providing 2 petite, slim and ready to go beddy bye. With FK you do need to pay something like $40 to get contacting privileges. But once you do pay you can get the contact info for something like 300 girls.

The intro from my old squeeze was busty and lusty, although her being from Tagum limited the number of times we could meet. I've always found it worthwhile to keep in touch with and stay on good terms with girls from past trips even if they get engaged or married. These girls know my type and also know the girls with just the right intentions (i.e. ready to have some fun even if they really hope for something more serious). What's really fun is to be invited to the old flame's wedding and be turned loose on all the bridesmaids and other female attenders.

Even in 2 weeks most of my time was spoken for and I didn't have a chance to do any real pickup cruising in the bars. I could only observe while I was wining and dining girls that I was taking out.

In September and maybe still now, the hot and trendy place to be was Hybrid bar in the Autoshop complex between Victoria and Gaisano malls. I went here early on a Saturday night with one of my FK girls and two of her Gaisano co-workers. All of the other tables were occupied by groups of 2 or 3 girls, all hungrily staring at me with beady eyes when they weren't staring angry, jealous daggers at my companions. I think it's often true that early in the evening in the clubs is better for male/female ratio and ease of making an approach. Perhaps the more timid girls like to be out early and get a taste of the nightlife and go home before the masses of horny dudes hit the clubs. It would have been interesting to happen on this scene alone and free.

Matina Town Square usually has a good band and it's a good place to take girls on dates. The two times I was there I only saw mixed groups that would have been hard to approach.

The great masses of party goers head for the clubs on Torres Street. These can be packed and heaving, especially on weekends. As it gets on past midnight dance floors get crowded, and that may be the best time to make an approach, while a girl is somewhat separated from her friends compared to when she's sitting at a table. It's sweltering hot in these places. In fact most of your going out in Davao will be in the open air and not in air conditioning, so be prepared to sweat a little.

One cool refuge is the Blue Room in Apo View Hotel. It has bands that play Jazz and Latin music. The clientele here is slightly older, so it's a good place to look for late 20s and 30s women.

There's always Rizal Street. Someplace Else is one place in town that isn't empty even on the Sunday and Monday dead nights. Most of the time I only see mixed groups here that are hard to crack. On an earlier visit in June I did pick up a 30ish pharmacist girl at the inside bar. Henny's De Bonte Koe is always a good place to start the evening with a dinner date and some drinks.

The old Venue complex is now going strong as a call center. So the nearby cafes and Gaisano mall could be seeing an increase in young, well-spoken, service-oriented lovelies.

I stayed in Marco Polo again. Lately I've been making heavy use of the club lounge. The girls love the pastry time from 3 to 5. It seems to make them eager for more sweetness later in the bedroom. Then there are cocktails and eats from 5:30 to 7:30. I got this for $118 a night, pretty good value for what you get.

However, a snitch in the hotel apparently tattled on me to one of my FK girls some time after my trip. My contacts with this one girl have gotten a bit chilly as a result. It's the risk I took for being more visible about my comings and goings with various girls. I'm actually surprised it hasn't happened more often on various trips up until now.

[Bob Bowie]

Anyone that do not just want to take the boat over to Paradise Beach might find this useful:

http://samalbeaches.com/index.php/Resort-in-Samal-Island/Beach/Resort/
Barba, lots of good info in that site. Samal is my favorite
place for day trips, I plan to stay overnight on the next trip.

[Radical Guy]

I will be visiting Davao soon and wondering if anyone can recommend any good dentists there. Thanks.

[WestCoast1]

This was the first time I used Dateinasia and I met several girls this way. However, only one was up for any bed sports and even she, a nursing student, wanted some financial compensation.
I find this true of 95+ percent of my dating site contacts. I'm quite good at weeding out those that don't want naughty contact. The rest often mention help in chat before I get on the airplane. Regardless the dating site that I use, they usually need 'help'.

[Heehaw]

Looking for a furnished (upscale) house or condo for February. March in Davao. Preferably Near or between NCCC and SM malls. Need internet access. Must be clean and safe. I am not looking for the cheapest deal, just a great place to stay for the family.

I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help.

[Sxxxx]

I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help.Yes well some people have a propensity for hype. They think it makes them important, but in reality quite the opposite.

And the continual promotion of Davao City as some kind of Sex Heaven suits me fine. Less people at other places, where the real action is, LOL.

Head straight for Davao City. Nurses, students, free sex etc galore. That's why on average, there are about six mongers in Davao City at any one time. Got to love it, LOL.

[Spam Hog]

Will be in town briefly for business. PM me.

Spmhog

[Bronxnik]

I will be visiting Davao soon and wondering if anyone can recommend any good dentists there. Thanks.Second floor of SM mall. The annex area, not the main area. Cebu quality work at half to quarter of the price.

[Radical Guy]

Looking for a furnished (upscale) house or condo for February. March in Davao. Preferably Near or between NCCC and SM malls. Need internet access. Must be clean and safe. I am not looking for the cheapest deal, just a great place to stay for the family.

I saw in the DS thread something about a $55 rate at the Marco Polo, and even though I know the event manager there, I was not able to get anywhere near that rate. If someone knows how that was achieved.

Please help. It was me that posted the great Marco Polo rate. At the time I booked it, last October, it was $58 (not $55) per night plus tax on Agoda. Com. I stayed at Marco Polo for 7 nights for a total of $490, tax inclusive (about $70 / night with tax).

Now, the price has gone up some, but still a good deal on agoda. Com

[GoodEnough]

Second floor of SM mall. The annex area, not the main area. Cebu quality work at half to quarter of the price.I use Dr. Marunel Tan-Gono in Damosa Gate. She's a member of the American Dental Association and is by far the best dentist I've found in Davao. By local standards, she's expensive, though by Western price standards, she's a true bargain. I don't think I can include her phone number in the forum, but if you're interested, PM me and I'll send it to you.

GE

[GoodEnough]

The general pace of work in the Philippines slows to an almost imperceptible crawl during the Christmas/New Year's period, and it's an excellent time to take much-needed leave. It's also an excellent time to catch up with friends. Thus, the notorious Wicked Roger and I decided to take a couple of nights--together with our respective ladies--at a resort on Samal. Since I live here, and have easier access to word-of-mouth information about the growing number of resorts on the island, it was left to me to select am appropriate venue and to book the rooms.

Samal is becoming an increasingly popular mini holiday destination for Davao residents, and there are several new resorts, most of them owned by foreigners, from which to choose. So I asked several expat friends, some of whom had hosted recent company functions on the island, and finally decided on Höf Gorei, a new place owned by a German. I was hoping for a mix of local scenery and charm amplified by a bit of German efficiency.

Beach front rooms, all of which are situated in small, individual cabins, were being sold for P4,500 a night included breakfast and taxes, and this is what I booked, guaranteeing the reservations, as required, with a credit card, with reservations confirmed promptly by email.

What should have been the first inkling of less-than-Germanic efficiency occurred at Santa Anna wharf where, I was assured, the boat would arrive at 11 o'clock, and would be instantly recognizable as belonging to the resort. Well, not exactly. In fact I would not have even known the boat had arrived unless an American guy, who was also en route, told me it had come in. Turns out it was moored at the stern of another boat, and that we would have to walk (while carrying luggage) up the steep, narrow, and somewhat decrepit gangplank of the first boat, wend our way down a narrow aisle fairly crowded with Filipinos, then cross a relatively narrow plank (still with luggage) to the much smaller banca that would take us to the resort. I forgot to mention that prior to the boat's arrival I had called the resort to confirm the location of the boat, so there would have been ample opportunity to give me accurate information.

There were about 12 people on the banca, and the crowd was comprised of foreign men and their girlfriends. To be fair, I should point out that there was a resort staff member on the boat who did assist with the stowing of the bags, to the extent one can actually stow something on a banca. The trip took approximately an hour. For those familiar with the geography of Davao Gulf, we ended up at a spot about a kilometer from Pearl Farm.

We were met on arrival at the resort boat landing by several staff who offloaded the luggage, and presented us with welcome drinks served in a small, not unattractive one- room structure at the head of the pier, following which we were lead promptly to our rooms.

As promised the cabins were mere meters from a small, but very attractive white sand beach. Our cabin was furnished quote simply, with bamboo furniture, and was extremely clean, with a small veranda, with three chairs and a table, all of which looked out over the gulf. The cabin was set in the midst of dense local flora, consisting of a cornucopia of tropical plants and flowers of variegated colors. The setting itself was lovely and the cabin, if not sumptuous, was adequate, though the bed was the typical Philippine platform covered by a thin foam mattress.

I noticed, on entering the cabin, that neither the air conditioner nor the lights were on, and the reason, we were told, was that there was a "brownout." Well, those of us to who live here know that brownouts come and brownouts go, and they usually don't last very long, so we were unconcerned. That is, until WR's lady inquired exactly how long the power outage had been in effect. Imagine our surprise when we found that the resort had been without power for the past 36 hours; not because of a brownout, but because some vital component of the electrical system had exploded. This was downright disconcerting, especially after discovering that no electricity also meant no water, since water delivery is dependent on electric pumps.

WR, perspicacious man that he, is inquired why I had not been informed, when I called earlier, that the resort had no electricity and the query was met by a blank, uncomprehending stare of the sort that Filipinos give when confronted with unpleasant questions. It was then about noon, and figuring that we were stuck in any case, we decided to go to the dining terrace for some lunch.

The resort is built into and against a steep hill, and the terrace, naturally, was at or near the top. So we walked up a pleasant flagstone path and stone stairs, stopping frequently to admire the colorful birds caged along the periphery of the path. I won't belabor the egregious dining experience. Suffice it to say that we ordered food slightly after noon, and when, by 2 o'clock it had not arrived, and our increasingly shrill demands were met by more blank stares and mumbles, we descended, famished now, to our room. At some point during this near starvation experience, we asked when the electricity might come back, and were told that workman were on the scene and that "maybe it will come on by 4 o'clock." Now again, those of us who live here know that the word "maybe" in this context can be interpreted as "I have no fucking clue." The owner of course, was nowhere to be seen, and was, we were told, in Davao.

Fortunately, as we were sitting starving and disconsolate on the small veranda, WR found the hapless young manager, and demanded that he find us another boat so that we could get the hell out of dodge. As this colloquy was taking place, our food began to arrive! The good news is that, as the platters arrived, one by one on the porch, our immediate hunger was sated. The bad news is that the food was cold and thoroughly mediocre though expensive. To cut to the bottom line, we agreed to pay for the food and the P3,700 cost of chartering a special boat, and left the place four hours or so after having arrived for what we had hoped would be a restful, two-day sojourn.

Surprisingly, none of the other guests left, at least none that we could see, and we were told that the resort was full. I guess they were made of heartier stuff and/or had lower standard and expectations.

Our arrival back at Santa Ana required negotiating the same two wobbly, rickety gangplanks, though this time, our luggage has offloaded by hotel staff. Disembarking from the boat, we met two couple who were waiting to tait it back to the resort. We warned them that there was no electricity and not much service to speak of. One of the women told me that they had been staying there, sans electricity, for the past two days, and had left all of their baggage at the hotel, so they had no choice but to return.

The bottom line is that, though we had a somewhat wretched experience (an adventure WR dubbed it), I imagine the resort would have been reasonably pleasant had the electricity been functioning. Under no circumstances however, is it worth the P4,500 price tag, and a more appropriate range and value would be in the area of P2,500-3,000. Next time, I think I'll just go to Pearl Farm.

GE

[Fast Buck Artist]

The bottom line is that, though we had a somewhat wretched experience (an adventure WR dubbed it) , I imagine the resort would have been reasonably pleasant had the electricity been functioning. Under no circumstances however, is it worth the P4, 500 price tag, and a more appropriate range and value would be in the area of P2, 500-3, 000.

GEhaven't been to Samal but In most resort islands you can find a place to stay for 1000 php with aircon, indoor plumbing and breakfast. And these days, even wifi internet

4500 is 5 star hotel rate and is way too much (in my opinion, its way too much even if you actually get 5-star hotel service, but I am not the kind of guy who likes to pay extra for asskissing butlers "let me carry your bags sir")

[GoodEnough]

haven't been to Samal but In most resort islands you can find a place to stay for 1000 php with aircon, indoor plumbing and breakfast. And these days, even wifi internet I guess we can agree to disagree. I quite like the ass kissing. You cannot find much here for Php1, 000, unless it's a very basic place with zero amenities.

GE

[Member #4491]

GE,

Let me suggest Bali Bali as an option to Pearl Farm.

Make them turn of the religious shit on the radio in the morning and you will be staying in one of the best resorts on Samal. IMHO Bali Bali and PF are the only resorts that in any way could match an upper-average Thai resort. Assuming you appreciate Asian food, the (non buffet) food in both places has been great when I have visited. If I remember correct the chef on Bali Bali used to be chef on Marco, and he knows how to cook Asian food with style and personality.

Barba

[Wicked Roger]

GE,

Let me suggest Bali Bali as an option to Pearl Farm.

Make them turn of the religious shit on the radio in the morning and you will be staying in one of the best resorts on Samal. IMHO Bali Bali and PF are the only resorts that in any way could match an upper-average Thai resort. Assuming you appreciate Asian food, the (non buffet) food in both places has been great when I have visited. If I remember correct the chef on Bali Bali used to be chef on Marco, and he knows how to cook Asian food with style and personality.

BarbaWell the email from the 'owber' to explain her side of the cock was interesting and total BS.

As for Bali Bali. Sound a great place for a God fearing man like myself, would fit right in you think. We swapped emails so I know you will enjoy

[Member #4491]

WR, just as I was spreading the legs of my lovely 19 year old D cup friend, the words of The Lord penetrated the paper thin walls of my bungalow. She closed her eyes, pulled her knees up and apart even further, and praised this mornings blessings to her."Deeper daddy, deeper".

Fine start to another lovely day in paradise.

Seriously, apart from that radio in the morning I have nothing but compliments for this quiet and ambient resort.

Barba

[Questor55]

This is my fifth trip to Davao. The first time I stayed at Casa Leticia, downtown.

IMHO Leticia is okay, but that's all. Then tried Apo View, the classic upper class hotel in the same area.

Apo view was nice, with decent pool and good breakfast.

Looked around Marco Polo, but busy location and lack of balconies don't really suit.

Also, the Marco swimming pool is a scorching sun trap located on an upper floor, just waiting to

Inflict 3rd degree burns on the pale of skin.

My preference has long been for The Waterfront Insular Resort Hotel located about 8km north of downtown.

In Lanang. The Insular is located on the beach (not recommended for swimming) with extensive

Well tended gardens and palm groves. Service is very good. Breakfast buffet is outstanding.

Poolview rooms in buildings 2 and 3 have large balconies and lovely views over the gardens, pool and.

Ocean to Samal Island about 2km distant.

Rates for the best rooms run in the $80-$100 range with negotiable discounts for longer stays.

Waterfront is reasonably girl friendly if you are discreet and don't parade a street hooker through the lobby.

I have had several chatmates stay with me and no problems. So for a calm resort style holiday.

I consider this hotel to be one of the most enjoyable in the country. Girls love the ambience of the place!

[Member #4491]

Hello!

Recently checked out of Apo View and that is still a hotel on my deprecated-list. I just list my main reasons:

- Door men and "guards" are plain unfriendly. Arrogant pricks.

- Front desk staff are uninformed at best. Slow and complicated to deal with. Like an old eastern European hotel, but without the accuracy and knowledge. Just unsmooth in that irrational Philippino way.

- The doors between the rooms lets all sounds and odors / fumes in from the neighboring room. I am a smoke allergic and the neighbor is a smoker.

- The air con is infested with mould; hence it is a constant trade off between fucking your breathing organs up or living in a sauna.

- The windows does not open.

- The pool is dirty.

- Did not bother with the restaurant this time. Had to many bad incidents in the past where the mega rat running undisturbed under the buffet table maybe was the worst. But tried the café, and as always it would be a compliment to call the staff untrained, inattentive and unreceptive. This includes whom ever cooks. A good example of the total lack of ambitions is the "Chicken delight" at 290 peso. I am not exaggerating when I say that the amount of chicken hidden between the two slices of bread could fit on the finger nails of my left hand. Surreal that anyone would actually serve this in a restaurant. A total of five small flakes of chicken, with an area of 3-4 square mm and thickness of approximately 0, 5 mm each. This was mixed with 6-8 tiny cubicles of onion and some mayo. Spread on lightly roasted bread, and served with fifteen (yes fifteen) French fries or the thin and wobbly type. Would rather call it "chicken surprise". Who will get the meat today?

One of endless stupid dialogs with the staff at Apo:

"Are these spring roles, vegetarian?"

"Yes, sur"

"So no meat in them?"

"Yes sur, meat. Pork."

"Ah, so that means they ate NOT vegetarian."

"Sur?"

A few positives to balance this review.

+ Nice old bell boy / man.

+ Good size tea cups.

+ Pleasant jazz in the Café Josefina and restaurant. Billie Holiday and similar style jazz.

+ Location on of the best if you wish to be close to Torres, Peoples Park, Rizal, Tlonko SW:s, etc.

+ At least they have a pool.

+ Decoration in lobby.

+ The garden.

+ Ambient piano entertainment in the café in the afternoon (I know, this sounds like I am 80 years old).

However nice the head manager is, this is just a hotel with very low ambitions. I used to be a member of their loyalty program called Diamond Club, before I realized that I have options that are better. If you can see beyond the slightly better varnish, I would say you are better off in places like MyHotel or similar. There you will at least not pay for a four star hotel, while living in a two star.

Anyone in town should try Buena Terra on Torres. This is in my opinion on the top five restaurant list in Davao.

/Barba

[Fslag338]

Barba, you should find yourself a job with Tripadvisor. Outstanding talent for hotel reviews. Really funny.

[Crazy Ami]

Hi all,

Been in Davao a couple of days now. Have seen very limited talent either in People's Park area or near the Central Bank. Want to keep searching, but would love to have a wingman to travel around with to show me some of the places. Would be liberal with buying drinks and sharing current re: AC, HK, or Macau.

Cheers,

CA

[GoodEnough]

I suggest you take an hour or so and read back through some of Barba's multiple posts on the street walker scene here. There are also several clubs where the ladies are readily available, and all of them have been mentioned on these pages several times. Also, as today is Saturday, you might want to consider hitting Someplace Else, Chicos, Bar 183, all on Rizal St. From about 9 tonight onward. Then there are the dozens of bars on Torres St, all of which will be packed tonight.

I've said often, and I'll repeat, Davao is not like Cebu and Manila. It's much less in-your-face, but the venues abound and they're not difficult to find. If you want more specific information send me a PM.

GE.


Hi all,

Been in Davao a couple of days now. Have seen very limited talent either in People's Park area or near the Central Bank. Want to keep searching, but would love to have a wingman to travel around with to show me some of the places. Would be liberal with buying drinks and sharing current re: AC, HK, or Macau.

Cheers,

CA

[Crazy Ami]

I suggest you take an hour or so and read back through some of Barba's multiple posts on the street walker scene here.

GE. Thanks. I'm aware of the information; I read through every page all the way back to 2006. I was just saying that I would appreciate someone to share some beers with and share some info firsthand; could have put it into travel reports, but who reads that thread? So I included the information that I had from my (admittedly) limited explorations already done.

I've also pulled up DIA and dusted off my account there, and I'm getting some contacts arranged, but that's slow, and I'm here in Davao for work; I didn't even know I was coming until 2 days before, and it's my first time to the city, so no time to set anything up. :/

[Brymor]

I've also pulled up DIA and dusted off my account there, and I'm getting some contacts arranged, but that's slow, and I'm here in Davao for work; I didn't even know I was coming until 2 days before, and it's my first time to the city, so no time to set anything up. :/I don't know anything about the Davao scene but it is never too late for DIA trust me. I just did a search for on line members showing themselves as coming from Davao and there was 6 pages of girls averaging ten girls per page. This search was done at 9. 15pm Davao local time so I am sure you can get a last minute date, I have used this method a few times before when looking for a girl at the last minute.

[GoodEnough]

It's now slightly after midnight, and we've just returned from Henny's immediately adjacent to Someplace Else, the outside terrace of which was packed when we left, with the overflow spilling onto the tables at The Patio next door. And these were only two places. Chico's directly in front of these two places was also jammed. I didn't use Torres St. To get home, so I didn't get a look at the dozens of bars there, but I will bet thy attracted a large crowd as well. As I've said perhaps a dozen times herein, it's easy to find women here if you have just a little game and a couple of hours of patience.

The new Abreeza Mall (which is enormous) opens in mid-May and I'm told that it will house 35 new eating establishments including an Italiannis and a TGI Fridays. I would bet that, as is the case with the TGI's in Glorietta in Manila, this one will also be a very popular gathering place, as will some of the other restaurants that will be housed there. I did hear a rumor, as yet unconfirmed, that Hard Rock Café will also open in the new mall, and if so, I'm sure that it will, as in Manila, offer similar pick up possibilities.

The bottom line is that Davao is teeming with women on the prowl. You just have to know here to look.

GE

[Brymor]

Since I am going to be spending the best part of a week in CDO in July GE, you have just convinced me to make the effort and give Davao a try for 4-5 days. It all sounds very sophisticated compared to what I am used to in CDO.

[GoodEnough]

Since I am going to be spending the best part of a week in CDO in July GE, you have just convinced me to make the effort and give Davao a try for 4-5 days. It all sounds very sophisticated compared to what I am used to in CDO.When I moved here seven years or so ago, Davao was a quiet, fairly provincial place, but it gets more sophisticated with each passing year. It is not-and I hope it never becomes-Manila or even Cebu, but the number of high end shops, eating establishments and clubs continues to grow. There's a new high end SM (SM Presitge or someting like that) rising a couple of kilometers from Abreeza. That mall will also doubtless house new places to hang out when it's finished at the end of the year. Unfortunately, perhaps as a consequence of its rapid growth, the city has also started to attract more low end expat residents, but I guess that was inevitable.

Mortman, if you want to get together for a beer during the time that you're here, send me a PM.

GE

[Crazy Ami]

Thanks, Mortman and GE, for the ideas, and yes, it was extremely successful last night. Beautiful 19-yr old college student from DIA met me on Roxas, then we went to the same Chico's that was mentioned for drinks and conversation. She just left my room about 20 minutes ago. .

Davao is an interesting place. Definitely less in-your-face than Manila or AC (where I live now) , which is quite refreshing. And I love being able to talk to a girl about culture and politics (I. E. College girls like this one) rather than doing the standard bargirl Twenty Questions.

Thumbs up for me. Be back next month with the same goal.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks, Mortman and GE, for the ideas, and yes, it was extremely successful last night. Beautiful 19-yr old college student from DIA met me on Roxas, then we went to the same Chico's that was mentioned for drinks and conversation. She just left my room about 20 minutes ago. .

Davao is an interesting place. Definitely less in-your-face than Manila or AC (where I live now) , which is quite refreshing. And I love being able to talk to a girl about culture and politics (I. E. College girls like this one) rather than doing the standard bargirl Twenty Questions.

Thumbs up for me. Be back next month with the same goal. If you come back after the 12th of May, Abreeza and it's many new venues should be open. Let me know if you want to meet over a beer when you're next back here. I've never been to LA and I'd love to know that makes it appealing as a longer term place to stay.

GE

[Paulr1950]

Hi,

I read some where about a smallish hotel that has condo type rooms as well, but now can not find the name, maybe some one knows the name has pool as well I think near sm mall/

Cheers,

Ron

[Andre007]

Wow it has been awhile since I have posted. I will be visiting Davao again for the 1st time since 07. I stayed at Hotel Galleria near Davao Doctors Hospital before. A friend of mine mentioned a hotel called "The Manor" that is new and in the general area. Can somebody else give me some information.

Thanks

[Member #4491]

Wow it has been awhile since I have posted. I will be visiting Davao again for the 1st time since 07. I stayed at Hotel Galleria near Davao Doctors Hospital before. A friend of mine mentioned a hotel called "The Manor" that is new and in the general area. Can somebody else give me some information.

ThanksNever stayed there but one have to say that the location is ok.

Someone was not happy.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298459-d1229025-Reviews-The_Manor_Hotel-Davao_Mindanao.html

There is always MyHotel that is quite good. Useless staff and no bed lights, but still quite good value.

Please, do report back if you try Manor.

B

[Andre007]

Never stayed there but one have to say that the location is ok.

Someone was not happy.

http://www.tripadvisor.com/Hotel_Review-g298459-d1229025-Reviews-The_Manor_Hotel-Davao_Mindanao.html

There is always MyHotel that is quite good. Useless staff and no bed lights, but still quite good value.

Please, do report back if you try Manor.

BThank you for the information on Myhotel. It seems as thou everything is booked her because of the Mason convention and something else. I am actually staying with a "friend" and I think I will head back to Cebu because there are no openings anyplace and it is defeating my purpose

[Sumart]

Preparing for the action and giving me a good time

[WestCoast1]

Preparing for the action and giving me a good timeNice work Sumart. Where did you meet them.

WC

[Brymor]

Nice work Sumart. Where did you meet them.

WCI will second that and since I am planning a few days in Davao would love to know where you found them, especially the shorter one of the two, she has the perfect body

[Member #4491]

Bet there is some guys here that recognize them. .

Glad you had fun Sumart.

B

[Sumart]

One defenitely not, because I was her first foreigner.

Enjoy the view guys.

[Lostwodpun]

Nice score, Sumart. I think the best looking girls in Phil can be found in Davao. I like them dark.

[Member #4491]

What a nice sandwich. Thank you for sharing.

I spend a fair amount of time in Davao and Lostwodpun, your statement clearly indicates that the taste between men varies a lot. I find the girls in Cebu in general much prettier. I also like dark girls, and always spend time with them in the sun if we go to the beach. But in general I think there are much fewer pretty girls available in Davao, than say Cebu. Quite a lot of the poor girls in Davao lack of the most basic dental hygiene. Felt like the amount of available hit girls in Cebu was way more than Davao, and that they are slightly more civilized in a good way. For me it is a challenge to, in Davao, find a pretty girl that does not only have air in her head and that actually knows how to chew her rice with the mouth closed. Maybe I exaggerate, but there is some truth to the fact that many of the pretty girls know their potential and seek themselves to the bigger cities to find that pot of gold. Yesterday I had a chat with one really cute girl with a slim waist and heavy tits. 22 years old IT educated girl who traveled to Manila to start a new life. Brain drain often correlates with looks drain, especially if one consider the girls above 22-23 years where the uneducated and / or poor girls starts to become dented by life (read carbohydrates in various forms).

B

[Fslag338]

I agree with Barba. I visited Davao once, but do not see any reason to go back. Although the people are very friendly, the place is boring and girls can be found prettier, better educated and more available and approachable in many other places in the phils. Incomparable to Cebu, Manilla, Angeles and Subic for girls.

[Sxxxx]

I agree with Barba. I visited Davao once, but do not see any reason to go back. Although the people are very friendly, the place is boring and girls can be found prettier, better educated and more available and approachable in many other places in the phils. Incomparable to Cebu, Manilla, Angeles and Subic for girls.I completely agree.

Hype artists will say otherwise though, LOL.

[Topmanten]

I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

Casa leticia boutique hotel,

Casa Leticia business inn,

Apo view hotel.

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

Topmanten

[Whatsgoingon]

I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

TopmantenI stayed at the MP hotel before and it was ok, no problems bringing my girl back. But I had arranged to meet in advance so did not need to trawl for a girl so don't know if it is near any particular good hunting ground

[GoodEnough]

I am planning to visit Davao by next week, could some one please suggest whether these hotels are in the ' center of action', if not please recomand some 3 – 4 star GF hotel which is very close to the center of action.

Marco polo Davao hotel,

Casa leticia boutique hotel,

Casa Leticia business inn,

Apo view hotel.

After my visit will post some nice photos for all of you to enjoy.

TopmantenAll of the hotels you mention are quite central, though I suggest you avoid Casa Leticia because it's so poorly run and the food as been cited as among the worst cooked products available on the planet. The Marco is the best hotel in town, central to everything, and totally friendly if you don't mind walking through the lobby of a five star hotel with someone who may be, shall we say, inappropriately dressed. The Apo View is also quite central, and there are those who prefer it to the Marco. It's got much nicer grounds, though the walk to the room can be somewhat lengthy. The Marco has more restaurants, but Entrée at the Apo View has, or so I'm told, better wines and better beef. It's a girl friendly place and also houses the Blue Room which is a nice venue for listening to live music.

GE

[Topmanten]

Hi GE,

Thanks a lot, so will choose Maroco or apo. Hope both are GF.

TMT.


All of the hotels you mention are quite central, though I suggest you avoid Casa Leticia because it's so poorly run and the food as been cited as among the worst cooked products available on the planet. The Marco is the best hotel in town, central to everything, and totally friendly if you don't mind walking through the lobby of a five star hotel with someone who may be, shall we say, inappropriately dressed. The Apo View is also quite central, and there are those who prefer it to the Marco. It's got much nicer grounds, though the walk to the room can be somewhat lengthy. The Marco has more restaurants, but Entrée at the Apo View has, or so I'm told, better wines and better beef. It's a girl friendly place and also houses the Blue Room which is a nice venue for listening to live music.

GE

[Topmanten]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.

[Irony Monger]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)

[Member #4491]

I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)I am now in Geylang, Singapore and will cover this area. As soon as I printed these pictures I am hitting the streets in search for these wonder knockers.

B

[PauloThai]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.I hope you believe this yourself.

Cheers!

[Member #4491]

I thought I had found her but she turned out to be Thai. Tight clam though.

B

[Worzel]

I guess we will just have to walk around Davao with those photos, asking every girl we meet to flash us her boobs until we find the matching pair...that's my kind of Cinderella story ;)Then they will all turn into pumpkins. Lots of small and large pumpkins

[GoodEnough]

I think she's actually from CDO.


I thought I had found her but she turned out to be Thai. Tight clam though.

B

[Fslag338]

I think she's actually from CDO.No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.

[Topmanten]

Hi what is the speciality of cebu nipples?


No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.

[GoodEnough]

No she is not GE. Take a better look at the nipples. They look more from Cebu.Ah yes. I can see that now. Sorry for the mistake.

X

[X Man]

Topman is so full of it, but great to see the fun way people respond. I miss Davao. X

[Sxxxx]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.Actually I bumped into her, she had a photo of your big penis and was wondering who was the owner of it, as she'd like to meet up again.

[Soapy Smith]

Met this big boobs 19 young Filipino some time back at HK. Unfortunately I don't have her ph nos or photo with face. Could some one can recoganise her from these photos and pm me her present contact details. I hope to see her once again during my upcoming to visit to Davao / Manila. She was wonderful.Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them?

[Sxxxx]

Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them?I commend you for being so observant, I thought someone like D Cups would have picked up on that. You have a trained eye, Sir. Hope Topmanten takes your suggestion seriously, and doesn't just skip cost. I await for results from HK.

[Topmanten]

Great idea, even I haven't noticed it, even after sleeping 3 nights with her!

Hope to find her some place some time, because the world is round.

QUOTE=Skip Kost; 1160066]Can't make out the left side as well because of camera angle, but there seems to be a scar under the right aureole. Possibly a burn, or bite, or breast implant scar? Could you run the photos past medical clinics or breast implant surgeons in HK to see if they recognize them? [/QUOTE]

[GoodEnough]

We just came back from our first night-time venture to Ayala-Abreeza Mall, as I had made reservations at Italiannis for 8 this evening.

The first word of caution; do not take your own car. The underground parking lot was full, as apparently it always is on Saturdays and Sundays. Fortunately, I knew this, so we arrived by taxi which is the much smarter alternative.

As we were early, we went first to TGI Fridays for a drink, before going across the entrance hall for dinner at Italiannis. Both restaurants are owned and managed by the same group, so it's easy to flit between the two. Ti's was packed. There was not a seat to be had at any table. This is a typical TGI's serving basically American comfort food, but very well done. The service was, in a word, perfect, and ambience typical TGI and the crowd was festive. There's no doubt that Davao was ready for this. The prices are about the same as in the US and Manila, so this is no bargain restaurant and it's pretty clear that the people eating here are upper middle class folks. The crowd was well dressed, well behaved, and hungry. We sat at the bar, which was also full, and had ample opportunity to view the scene. The 15-20 tables outside were also full. This is not a place to pick up women. However, it's a great place to take your conquest of the night before for drinks and dinner and its obviously become, in very short order, a place to see and be seen. There were lots of expats with their local ladies, but by and large the crowd was upper middle class Filipinos.

The same goes for italiannis, which is a bit higher end, a bit more expensive, and as the name implied, with an Italian menu. The wine list is disappointingly small, but the Chianti (P1575) was served chilled, presented with appropriate wine glasses and served well. I was impressed that I was offered a taste of any wine on the list. This is the first time I've ever been offered this service in the Philippines.

The service was impeccable. The place has only been open for a couple of weeks but it's obvious that the company spent lots of time training the staff. The four of us started with three appetizers: stuffed mushrooms, antipasto, and mussels, and they were all excellent. Served hot, well presented and the portions were large. I had a fettucini alfredo with proscutto ham that was excellent, and again, well presented. The bill for the four of us was Php5, 900, so it's not an inexpensive place to eat, but it's good value for money. Again, this is not a pick up place, and there's zero chance of meeting someone here by chance. The restaurant seats about 120 people and it was full, turning over at least once while we were there, and our reservation was for 8 o'clock, so presumably the place turned over 3 or 4 times.

Italiannis is not a "dressy" or a "formal" restaurant, as those who have visited the restaurant in Greenbelt or Glorietta in Manila will recognize. However, it's extremely attractive and the food is very good. I'm sure it will become part of our regular circuit. For those wanting a standard of cost comparison, it's about 20% more costly than Henny's and about the same as Claude's Café de Ville, but a much difference ambience than either.

All in all, the two restaurants are, for me, welcome and needed additions to the Davao restaurant scene, and offer additional alternatives to the normal fare.

GE

[Finrod]

We just came back from our first night-time venture to Ayala-Abreeza Mall, as I had made reservations at Italiannis for 8 this evening.

The first word of caution; do not take your own car. The underground parking lot was full, as apparently it always is on Saturdays and Sundays. Fortunately, I knew this, so we arrived by taxi which is the much smarter alternative.

As we were early, we went first to TGI Fridays for a drink, before going across the entrance hall for dinner at Italiannis. Both restaurants are owned and managed by the same group, so it's easy to flit between the two. Ti's was packed. There was not a seat to be had at any table. This is a typical TGI's serving basically American comfort food, but very well done. The service was, in a word, perfect, and ambience typical TGI and the crowd was festive. There's no doubt that Davao was ready for this. The prices are about the same as in the US and Manila, so this is no bargain restaurant and it's pretty clear that the people eating here are upper middle class folks. The crowd was well dressed, well behaved, and hungry. We sat at the bar, which was also full, and had ample opportunity to view the scene. The 15-20 tables outside were also full. This is not a place to pick up women. However, it's a great place to take your conquest of the night before for drinks and dinner and its obviously become, in very short order, a place to see and be seen. There were lots of expats with their local ladies, but by and large the crowd was upper middle class Filipinos.

The same goes for italiannis, which is a bit higher end, a bit more expensive, and as the name implied, with an Italian menu. The wine list is disappointingly small, but the Chianti (P1575) was served chilled, presented with appropriate wine glasses and served well. I was impressed that I was offered a taste of any wine on the list. This is the first time I've ever been offered this service in the Philippines.

The service was impeccable. The place has only been open for a couple of weeks but it's obvious that the company spent lots of time training the staff. The four of us started with three appetizers: stuffed mushrooms, antipasto, and mussels, and they were all excellent. Served hot, well presented and the portions were large. I had a fettucini alfredo with proscutto ham that was excellent, and again, well presented. The bill for the four of us was Php5, 900, so it's not an inexpensive place to eat, but it's good value for money. Again, this is not a pick up place, and there's zero chance of meeting someone here by chance. The restaurant seats about 120 people and it was full, turning over at least once while we were there, and our reservation was for 8 o'clock, so presumably the place turned over 3 or 4 times.

Italiannis is not a "dressy" or a "formal" restaurant, as those who have visited the restaurant in Greenbelt or Glorietta in Manila will recognize. However, it's extremely attractive and the food is very good. I'm sure it will become part of our regular circuit. For those wanting a standard of cost comparison, it's about 20% more costly than Henny's and about the same as Claude's Café de Ville, but a much difference ambience than either.

All in all, the two restaurants are, for me, welcome and needed additions to the Davao restaurant scene, and offer additional alternatives to the normal fare.

GEWell it's nice to see Davao finally getting some decent non-Asian dining alternatives to Farfalle and Henny's. But I have to say I was not that impressed by the Italiannis in Manila (I've eaten at the ones in Pasig and Makati) so I have avoided them since wherever I find one. Maybe it is better now?

Regarding TGI Friday's, I've eaten at the one in Robinson's Place, Ermita and I wasn't that impressed by it either. But I can see the demand for these places in a city like Davao so I hope this is a precursor to more alternatives by enterprising chefs and restaurant owners willing to locate there. Dang I got to get back there someday.

[GoodEnough]

I wasn't trying to indicate that either of the two restaurants mentioned in my post-Italiannis and TGI Fridays-represent gourmet tastes. Both offer decent food and enjoyable experiences, and there isn't an abundance of such places in Davao. I should have added that Tshuru (sp?) , the Japanese restaurant with a large branch in downtown Davao has also opened in Abreeza as has, I think, Hanoi, its sister restaurant that serves of course Vietnamese food. A small Starbucks and larger Coffee Bean have also opened or are about to open, thus presenting more alternatives. Someone told me that there are approximately 35 places to eat in the mall, though some of these are no more than fast food eatery-type establishments, including McDo. I like Friday's hamburgers, wings and other, similar fare and I appreciate the generally friendly attitude of the wait staff. However, Davao has lamentably few options offering a real "dining" experience. It's not Makati-or even Cebu- by a long shot and probably never will come close to the variety offered there.

[GoodEnough]

There is only (sadly) one French restaurant in Davao. Fortunately it's an excellent restaurant, serviing very typical Bistro / Brasserie-type food. I speak of course of Café de Ville (Claude's) on Rizal St. Claude has been absent for the last six months, having returned to France to attend to some serious health-related concerns, and the restaurant suffered from his absence. The good news is that he's back and the food and service are as impeccable as ever. Tonight, we went there, five of us, both to welcome him back and to enjoy, once again, a little corner of France amidst the urban chaos of Davao. The food and service were excellent, though the bill for the five of use was, at Php19, 000 fairly steep. I should point out though that the total included a bottle of Taittinger Champagne (perfectly chilled) , a lovely bottle of ChateauneufduPape, and a decent Remy Martin after dinner. So basically Php11, 000 of the total was attributable to wine of one sort or another.

If you're a devotée of French food, this is still the place to go in Davao. I had an excellent Magret de Canard (duck breast) in orange sauce, preceeded by perfectly cooked escargots provençal that were the equivalent in quality to what I would have gotten in France. The desert of crêpes suzettes was also excellent. If you're looking for quality dining à la façon française in Davao, then this is the place to go. We got to the restuarant at about 7:30 and left at about 10:30, so this really was a dining, as opposed to a more prosaic eating experience.

GE

[Brymor]

There is only (sadly) one French restaurant in Davao. Fortunately it's an excellent restaurant, serviing very typical Bistro / Brasserie-type food. I speak of course of Café de Ville (Claude's) on Rizal St. Claude has been absent for the last six months, having returned to France to attend to some serious health-related concerns, and the restaurant suffered from his absence. The good news is that he's back and the food and service are as impeccable as ever. Tonight, we went there, five of us, both to welcome him back and to enjoy, once again, a little corner of France amidst the urban chaos of Davao. The food and service were excellent, though the bill for the five of use was, at Php19, 000 fairly steep. I should point out though that the total included a bottle of Taittinger Champagne (perfectly chilled) , a lovely bottle of ChateauneufduPape, and a decent Remy Martin after dinner. So basically Php11, 000 of the total was attributable to wine of one sort or another.

If you're a devotée of French food, this is still the place to go in Davao. I had an excellent Magret de Canard (duck breast) in orange sauce, preceeded by perfectly cooked escargots provençal that were the equivalent in quality to what I would have gotten in France. The desert of crêpes suzettes was also excellent. If you're looking for quality dining à la façon française in Davao, then this is the place to go. We got to the restuarant at about 7:30 and left at about 10:30, so this really was a dining, as opposed to a more prosaic eating experience.

GEGE your post just reinforces my view that French cuisine is pretentious and over-priced; much like its wine and it is the perfect companion for food snobs. I have travelled all over the world but never had the slightest inclination to take the one hour journey across the Channel, from my home in England. Give me plain traditional English food anytime over (in my humble opinion) unappetizing French fare, after all what other nation in the world would consider eating snails and frogs legs! In fact it is only the over abundant use of garlic to hide the true taste of the food that makes it palatable in the first place (especially the two foods mentioned). Actually it surprised me that America is actually one of the worlds top importers of frogs legs alongside France and Belgium.

Yes I am prejudiced I admit it, firstly being English does not help and secondly the fact that I was force fed French language lessons for 8 years as a kid didn't help either. Thank God I have never had to use those language skills since I was a child (and sorry to all you French guys out there but I know you have never forgiven us English for Agincourt).

[GoodEnough]

I guess we're on opposite sides of the French / English divide. I spent lots of time in England eating what I thought was the worst, most bland, and thoroughly tasteless crap I've ever encountered, whereas I find French cuisine the best in the world. As to French wines, there are simply none better on this planet in my opinion. Having lived in France for a long time, and being pretty fluent in the language, I would happily spend my remaining years on that side of the channel, whereas I'm not sure anyone could pay me enough to live on the other side. I guess the twain will never meet in our case.


GE your post just reinforces my view that French cuisine is pretentious and over-priced; much like its wine and it is the perfect companion for food snobs. I have travelled all over the world but never had the slightest inclination to take the one hour journey across the Channel, from my home in England. Give me plain traditional English food anytime over (in my humble opinion) unappetizing French fare, after all what other nation in the world would consider eating snails and frogs legs! In fact it is only the over abundant use of garlic to hide the true taste of the food that makes it palatable in the first place (especially the two foods mentioned). Actually it surprised me that America is actually one of the worlds top importers of frogs legs alongside France and Belgium.

Yes I am prejudiced I admit it, firstly being English does not help and secondly the fact that I was force fed French language lessons for 8 years as a kid didn't help either. Thank God I have never had to use those language skills since I was a child (and sorry to all you French guys out there but I know you have never forgiven us English for Agincourt).

[X Man]

I've been to Claude's only once. The food was great, the wine wonderful, the company interesting, and the women of high beauty and intellect. The bill was high for Philippines, but it was a night well spent. Oh, and the after dinner jazz at Chico's was nice enough.


I guess we're on opposite sides of the French / English divide. I spent lots of time in England eating what I thought was the worst, most bland, and thoroughly tasteless crap I've ever encountered, whereas I find French cuisine the best in the world. As to French wines, there are simply none better on this planet in my opinion. Having lived in France for a long time, and being pretty fluent in the language, I would happily spend my remaining years on that side of the channel, whereas I'm not sure anyone could pay me enough to live on the other side. I guess the twain will never meet in our case.

[GoodEnough]

I've been to Claude's only once. The food was great, the wine wonderful, the company interesting, and the women of high beauty and intellect. The bill was high for Philippines, but it was a night well spent. Oh, and the after dinner jazz at Chico's was nice enough.I think it's all a wiling suspension of disbelief thing. I miss France, and I miss Europe in general, and Claude's is the only place in Davao that makes me feel, for just a small fraction of time, that I'm back there. It's also the only place where I can speak French for the night and eat the food I love. If I have to pay somewhat more than I normally would for that privilege, then so be it. I do it willingly. I understand that it's not everyone's priority, in fact it's probably the priority of a very few, but that's fine. On Saturday night when we were there, the place was almost packed, largely with wealthy, well-dressed Filipinos, and I like that as well as I get tired to looking at shorts, flip flops and tee shirts.

Thanks X for the endorsement. I know that paying that much and eating that type of food is simply not important to lots of other people, perhaps most other people. That's fine with me. I don't try to impose my tastes on anyone else, though I'm thankful my asawa shares it. I wish there were more places here that offered similar ambience and a similar quality of food.

GE