Davao

[Roll Aides]

That little hotbody single mother wouldn't know what 1+1 was, let alone acronyms. Those bird brained nincompoops are only good for sucking your bank account dry. Sort of okay if they can also suck your dick dry.Actually, that particular MILF has a business degree, and the only time she's ever gotten money from me was a loan on which she paid 20% interest. She just didn't get the humor. You seem kinda grouchy about something.

[Goferring]

You seem kinda grouchy about something.Don't berate ED. We should be offering our condolences. Another's wayward creampie has forced his girlie of choice to retreat to the villages of Mindanao. Now he must sit idly by in purgatory until she has bore her bastard child. Worst of all, she didn't have the decency to at least give him the last swing at bat!!

Several members here have met and even road tested her and can attest that for someone else to remove such a girl from circulation is a crime against humanity that even an East African warlord would be ashamed of. ED's once pristine DDs and killer body will soon become the saggy tits and stretch marked arse that we all are trying to escape from.

The above goes some of the way to explain why ED's once happy go lucky posts have been replaced with the recent bitterness towards pinas. He doth protest too much, methinks.

So, save your scorn and pity for ED. It's much better to offer support and understanding while he goes through these tragic times, mourning as much and for as long as it takes to recover.

I'd like to offer ED a Grab ticket to the Tondo rail lines and a crisp 100 peso note to help him to find his feet again. Mate, its here ready when ever you need it.

Enjoy. G. 😁.

[WestCoast1]

You seem kinda grouchy about something.As the Board sour dolt, those comments are usually aimed at me (dammit, that's MY job). Haha how refreshing!


Don't berate ED. We should be offering our condolences. SNIP The above goes some of the way to explain why ED's once happy go lucky posts have been replaced with the recent bitterness towards pinas. He doth protest too much, methinks. SNIP I'd like to offer ED a Grab ticket to the Tondo rail lines and a crisp 100 peso note to help him to find his feet again. Mate, its here ready when ever you need it.I offer up some pictorial delight for ED. So many (pinay) reasons to be happy in Phils.

[Roll Aides]

My bad. Chin up, ED, there's plenty more where she came from.

[PedroMorales]

https://durianburg.com/2008/04/16/days-numbered-for-prostitute-haven-in-davao-city/

I would say there are some real bottom layers of hell places like this. On the plus side, there would be no rich Koreans Is there much of a scene out in the sticks? I'd like to try safe places.

[Chocha Monger]

https://durianburg.com/2008/04/16/days-numbered-for-prostitute-haven-in-davao-city/

I would say there are some real bottom layers of hell places like this. On the plus side, there would be no rich Koreans Is there much of a scene out in the sticks? I'd like to try safe places.Well, it looks like the wharf rats are not the only creatures climbing aboard banana boats via the mooring lines. It must be quite a spectacular sight to see the Akyat Barko girls swarming up the mooring lines of recently arrived banana freighters to peddle their pussies to the lecherous crew. Sikatoy should be declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site for its peculiar culture. That would really make the terrorist shithole that is Davao worth a visit.

[Goferring]

Well, it looks like the wharf rats are not the only creatures climbing aboard banana boats via the mooring lines. It must be quite a spectacular sight to see the Akyat Barko girls swarming up the mooring lines of recently arrived banana freighters to peddle their pussies to the lecherous crew. Sikatoy should be declared a UNESCO World Heritage Site for its peculiar culture. That would really make the terrorist shithole that is Davao worth a visit.These types of places are peppered all though the sealanes of Asia. Not the PI, but I worked for a while at a place upriver where 90% of resupply was via tug and barge. Occassionally, parts would be urgently needed so additional tugs would be attached, over time paid, additional hands would be put on board, all at great expense, to get the item (s) delivered ASAP.

Every voyage, said barge would make very good time up until a little blue shack on a bend in the river and mysteriously break down for a few hours then set off again at full speed. EVERY TIME. 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

https://durianburg.com/2008/04/16/days-numbered-for-prostitute-haven-in-davao-city/

I would say there are some real bottom layers of hell places like this. On the plus side, there would be no rich Koreans Is there much of a scene out in the sticks? I'd like to try safe places.Go spend some time in illegal mining or timber camps. 😱.

Those girls would regard a shanty on a Davao wharf as a 5 star upgrade.

Cheers. G.

[Goferring]

That would really make the terrorist shithole that is Davao worth a visit.Clearly we are visiting very different Davaos.

Enjoy. G.

[Wicked Roger]

https://durianburg.com/2008/04/16/days-numbered-for-prostitute-haven-in-davao-city/

I would say there are some real bottom layers of hell places like this. On the plus side, there would be no rich Koreans Is there much of a scene out in the sticks? I'd like to try safe places.To add to Goffering's FR.

Try spending some time in the UAE or Qatar and visit the labour camps. Lots of PRC (Chinese) WGs visit and get paid by volume, using just a wet wipe in between the customers. Sometime the who dormitory watches and sometime there is some privacy. Makes no difference as it is very grim and horrible.

At least here the PRC WGs get to see a vessel and ocean rather some very sweaty smelly over crowed dormitory LOL.

[PedroMorales]

That is some funny stuff GoFerring. Did you ever investigate further or do you think there are easier ways to commit suicide? It kinda reminds me of cub reporters in war zones. OK till the heavy music starts and not a fox hole to be found. I've gone to some hairy places in search of muff but I'd like an easier escape plan than straddling crocodile infested waters if I outwore my welcome at the tin shack ho house. Maybe it's time for some crack ho to make an honest man of me. I guess that is one of the reasons we all move upmarket. I mean, I bet those brothels in the illegal logging places don't have cable TV, (clean) sheets or WiFi. I've been in a few short time hotels in Mindanao and they ain't for the faint hearted.

Are the small towns of Mindanao worth a visit or is there an easier way to commit suicide?

[PedroMorales]

To add to Goffering's FR.

Try spending some time in the UAE or Qatar and visit the labour camps. Lots of PRC (Chinese) WGs visit and get paid by volume, using just a wet wipe in between the customers. Sometime the who dormitory watches and sometime there is some privacy. Makes no difference as it is very grim and horrible. At least here the PRC WGs get to see a vessel and ocean rather some very sweaty smelly over crowed dormitory LOL.I'd drop my hand at this stage and leave the game. "paid by volume" like picking cherries. I see now why folk go upmarket. I guess they reuse the wet wipes. Time to dump that Pretty Woman DVD. The Mindanao pimps could pimp the view to get the workers.

[Goferring]

That is some funny stuff GoFerring. Did you ever investigate further or do you think there are easier ways to commit suicide? It kinda reminds me of cub reporters in war zones......

I mean, I bet those brothels in the illegal logging places don't have cable TV, (clean) sheets or WiFi. I've been in a few short time hotels in Mindanao and they ain't for the faint hearted.An apt comparison. The mixture of mercury, toxic chemicals and oil spills certainly do create their own scorched earth policy. It's very easy to understand why the people involved have their growth stunted at 4'6"/ 80 lbs and are generally dead at 40.

What brothels and infrastructure? The most advanced might have a few cobbled together wooden leantoos and the ubiquitous mountain of plastic 7 gal fuel containers. Many have no semi permanent buildings at all and people just eat, sleep and shit where ever they drop.

Strangely enough they do have satellite dishes and TV stations. I have no idea how they get them in there but they are always there. I guess if anyone has the right to watch aspirational soapies, they do. After all, they are playing Jungle Survivor the home game 24/7.

Cheers. G.

[GoodEnough]

Clearly we are visiting very different Davaos.

Enjoy. G.Has this guy ever posted any accurate information here? Davao, listed among the safest cities in the world is now a "terrorist shithole. " I've lived here 18 years and never knew.

GE.

[Soapy Smith]

Has this guy ever posted any accurate information here? GE.Hard to post accurate information about places you've only visited by web browsing.

[PedroMorales]

the terrorist shithole that is Davao Leaving aside that Davao has been bombed on several occasions, the question is simple. Where do Simon & Garfunkel's ragged people hang out and where can we bonk them without getting the bubonic plague (as in Skid Row), AIDS or eaten by banana boat loving crocs; the illegal logging camps are off the bucket list, thanks to an earlier post of distinction.

Davao's wretched of the earth are easy but I want to go way beyond that. I have leads in Gen San and Pagadian but I'm not the SAS on are&are, to be Black Hawked in and out. More a Gurkha, slither in, unseen and bayonet them between the legs, without attracting a lynching party. The ideal place would be a small village / town, with a few young ladies willing to experiment for a few pesos, but good transport so as to get out of Dodge before the lynch party gathers.

Most guys are doing this in Angeles and so on, but bragging right were lost there a long time ago. The women think they are doing you a favour by saying: Thank you. You are Lucky Customer no 10,0000, so you get ten minutes for 10 k. Enough!

Davao's one advantage is the street walkers, 9's among them, can be bargained down to Open Sesame for peanuts (compared to further north) but there is no challenge. Bt 9's, I mean you and cute (19-23), not too many babies, not very well educated but deep conversations can wait. The happy medium is the golden rule. Pagadian seems good but it could be a death tap if no escape plan, which is superfluous to requirements in Davao's RLD and is only necessary in places like Angeles if one is a loud mouth or a fool.

[DzikaBomba]

I'm very interested in Davao and want to visist it the next year.

Can someone experienced tell me more about the SW there? Where they can be found and what is the going Rate there?

I read in the Internet you can find SW after the Sunset near Bangko Sentral in Davao.

Is this still actual?

And could someone please recommend an girlfriendly Hotel there below 35 $, where they also accept the Sw's?

When I'm there I will report.

[Goferring]

Leaving aside that Davao has been bombed on several occasions.So has Bali. So has Sydney. So has NYC. If you find walking around Davao scary then the rest of you post is pretty pointless.


Where do Simon & Garfunkel's ragged people hang out and where can we bonk them without getting the bubonic plague (as in Skid Row), AIDS or eaten by banana boat loving crocs; the illegal logging camps are off the bucket list, thanks to an earlier post of distinction.

Davao's wretched of the earth are easy but I want to go way beyond that. I have leads in Gen San and Pagadian but I'm not the SAS on are&are, to be Black Hawked in and out. More a Gurkha, slither in, unseen and bayonet them between the legs, without attracting a lynching party. The ideal place would be a small village / town, with a few young ladies willing to experiment for a few pesos, but good transport so as to get out of Dodge before the lynch party gathers.

Most guys are doing this in Angeles and so on, but bragging right were lost there a long time ago. The women think they are doing you a favour by saying: Thank you. You are Lucky Customer no 10,0000, so you get ten minutes for 10 k. Enough!

Davao's one advantage is the street walkers, 9's among them, can be bargained down to Open Sesame for peanuts (compared to further north) but there is no challenge. Bt 9's, I mean you and cute (19-23), not too many babies, not very well educated but deep conversations can wait. The happy medium is the golden rule. Pagadian seems good but it could be a death tap if no escape plan, which is superfluous to requirements in Davao's RLD and is only necessary in places like Angeles if one is a loud mouth or a fool.You are asking contradicting questions: where are the desperately poor, off the beaten track, untouched by white dicks, waiting in anticipation for one to arrive and ravish them? Yet they need to be in a quaint village, with easy access and egress and full healthcare facilities. Presumably nice hotels and western meals would also be a nice touch.

These villages are untouched because they are difficult to get to. No white dick is there because an average monger is scared off. The desperately poor live there because it's such a shit hole that no one else will tolerate it.

If you want to go to somewhere different, do just that. Find a town, big or small, take reasonable precautions, and just walk around, have something to eat or drink and have a look around. I bet there are many places within half a mile of Burgos St that have litterally never seen a white face. If you feel comfortable then just strike up a conversation and see what happens. If you feel uncomfortable just get up and leave. You will be surprised how welcoming these places are to an approachable stranger.

FWIW, illegal miners, timber cutters and their camps are not at all scary. If you know how to behave. They are just working, desperate to feed their family. Behave properly and they are fine. Arrive unannounced at night and charge around throwing your money around and it could be a very dangerous situation.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

I'm very interested in Davao and want to visist it the next year.

Can someone experienced tell me more about the SW there? Where they can be found and what is the going Rate there?Lots available in the back streets around the Casino, Peoples Park and Leticia Hotel areas. Note many are LBs.

Its not a market I use but I would expect to pay well under 1 k ST.

Cheers.

[Kabul Guy]

So has Bali. So has Sydney. So has NYC. If you find walking around Davao scary then the rest of you post is pretty pointless.

......And London, Montreal and even Oklahoma City.

If the idea that some bad guys may decide to set off a bomb is sufficient to scare you from most cities, then please stay home hide under your bed and masturbate thinking that the real men are not afraid of something with less chance of a lightening strike and are willing to go about our normal lives going where the timid are afraid to go.

I have spent most of a decade in places that just about every western government has said is off limits and only essential travel with massive and adequate security and I know more people from home who died in auto accidents than I know who were killed by bad guys. More drownings at home too. But am I afraid to go drive to the beach for a swim?

Yes take reasonable precautions, be situational aware, that is good advice in every place including like my home town a small city on the Canadian Prairie.

But please don't let one small bomb scare you or if you just cannot help it then please don't spread the fear.

[GoodEnough]

And London, Montreal and even Oklahoma City.

If the idea that some bad guys may decide to set off a bomb is sufficient to scare you from most cities, then please stay home hide under your bed and masturbate thinking that the real men are not afraid of something with less chance of a lightening strike and are willing to go about our normal lives going where the timid are afraid to go.

I have spent most of a decade in places that just about every western government has said is off limits and only essential travel with massive and adequate security and I know more people from home who died in auto accidents than I know who were killed by bad guys. More drownings at home too. But am I afraid to go drive to the beach for a swim?

Yes take reasonable precautions, be situational aware, that is good advice in every place including like my home town a small city on the Canadian Prairie.

But please don't let one small bomb scare you or if you just cannot help it then please don't spread the fear.As one who has spent most of his professional lifetime, likely in some of the same places as KG, going to places that most people never get to go, of course I agree with Kabul Guy. If you're too afraid to travel, then stay home or take package tours to Jamaica, or Acapulco.

Today, my wife and I attended a wedding reception for about 400 people, at the Dusit Hotel in Davao. All of the guests with the exception of four or five of us, were the crème de la crème of Chinese / Filipino society here in Davao and there was probably more collective wealth in represented in that room than most of us will see in a lifetime. I'm guessing the reception had to cost $40-$50,000 US, and it might have been higher. My wife was seated next to a friend of hers, and I was seated next to two gorgeous Chinese-Filipino sisters who had recently returned from Denmark and Italy where they were attending a wedding in Copenhagen. Their English was, of course flawless, and they were as smart and interesting as any Western woman I've ever met. I'm guessing they were in their late 20's or early 30's. I couldn't help but think, as we were drinking French wine and eating mussels in curry sauce, about some of the recent conversations I've read on this forum, denigrating Filipinas for their perfidy, their dishonesty, and their greed, and on contrasting that with what I was seeing around me throughout the afternoon. It's simply amazing how easy it is to find sparkling companionship by raising one's sights above the bars. These are young women who would likely not be averse to dating foreigners, but I'm guessing would be leagues too high for the guys strolling around Fields Avenue. My point is simply that there are alternatives, not difficult to find for those interested.

GE.

[Kabul Guy]

As one who has spent most of his professional lifetime, likely in some of the same places as KG, going to places that most people never get to go, of course I agree with Kabul Guy. If you're too afraid to travel, then stay home or take package tours to Jamaica, or Acapulco.

......The crime statistics for those places are as high as for here, lots of warnings out there to never leave the tourist areas in Jamaica.

If you are stupid and do things to invite trouble then no place is safe. If you are smart and have some situational awareness and street smarts then most places are pretty safe, at least safe enough to get into, recognize a potential danger then get out all before bad shit happens.

[PedroMorales]

So has Bali. So has Sydney. So has NYC. If you find walking around Davao scary then the rest of you post is pretty pointless.I don't find downtown Davao scary at all. I had posted an earlier reply telling the guy looking for SW where to find them. However, there is nothing relevant to do where before the hookers appear at 9 pm or so. I've been under pretty intensive fire so that stuff does not worry me undul; why. Some European subways are far more dangerous but they are different risks.


You are asking contradicting questions: where are the desperately poor, off the beaten track, untouched by white dicks, waiting in anticipation for one to arrive and ravish them? Yet they need to be in a quaint village, with easy access and egress and full healthcare facilities. Presumably nice hotels and western meals would also be a nice touch.Not at all. I am thinking of making a trip from Davao up along the Western way, if I do not go to Pagadian. All those small towns have their action but it seems no one has ever struck out along them. People do not evaluate terrorist risks like other risks. , which is why terrorists target tourists. No Western meals thanks and local hotels are fine.


These villages are untouched because they are difficult to get to. No white dick is there because an average monger is scared off. The desperately poor live there because it's such a shit hole that no one else will tolerate it. I have been in such towns before. It is a risk / reward trade off, as is terrorism. I've been in Davao when it was bombed. All it meant for me is being wary around the bus station. My brother toured the Pyramids immediately after a bus load of Israelis were executed. 5* hotels for $5 and extra tight security. He enjoyed it and the nice German woman he met.

It is not just because they are shit holes. The nature of the world has changed and opportunities have disappeared from the Spanish and French countrysides, to take two examples. Lovely places but not much to do. I've been in the slums of Davao with the Marco Polo servants and they have nothing to do outside of work but screw the women.

In many ways, I prefer to be with those people than those who exploit them. They are more fun and better in the sack too.


If you want to go to somewhere different, do just that. Find a town, big or small, take reasonable precautions, and just walk around, have something to eat or drink and have a look around. I bet there are many places within half a mile of Burgos St that have litterally never seen a white face. If you feel comfortable then just strike up a conversation and see what happens. If you feel uncomfortable just get up and leave. You will be surprised how welcoming these places are to an approachable stranger. FWIW, illegal miners, timber cutters and their camps are not at all scary. If you know how to behave. They are just working, desperate to feed their family. Behave properly and they are fine. Arrive unannounced at night and charge around throwing your money around and it could be a very dangerous situation.Enjoy. G.I intend to do just that. Previous steers I got to eg Vigan did not work out. I look for info, I dismiss most of it and try to follow up what I think may help. I have zero interest in "the crème de la crème of Chinese / Filipino society" and would not cross the road to be bored by them. Here is one plan A for me.

1. stay in a run down Davao hotel. Tip the guard 2000 PHP over a few days. Get a run of towns heading north west. I have a few links in Iligan and Ozamiz and would like to ferry across to Negros. I am not expecting for find a mini Angeles or Pattaya. I am trying to get away from them.

[PedroMorales]

The crime statistics for those places are as high as for here, lots of warnings out there to never leave the tourist areas in Jamaica.

If you are stupid and do things to invite trouble then no place is safe. If you are smart and have some situational awareness and street smarts then most places are pretty safe, at least safe enough to get into, recognize a potential danger then get out all before bad shit happens.Acapulco's Zona Roja, where I have enjoyed many a good bonk, is risky as hell, a Gangs of New York type place. Great dancing, enough coke to put a continent high, wall to wall hookers who are as tough as nails. I know a young wman who goes to Jamaica for the local hung horses. Not for me.

[Engine Driver]

Today, my wife and I attended a wedding reception for about 400 people, at the Dusit Hotel in Davao. All of the guests with the exception of four or five of us, were the crme de la crme of Chinese / Filipino society here in Davao and there was probably more collective wealth in represented in that room than most of us will see in a lifetime. I'm guessing the reception had to cost $40-$50,000 US, and it might have been higher. My wife was seated next to a friend of hers, and I was seated next to two gorgeous Chinese-Filipino sisters who had recently returned from Denmark and Italy where they were attending a wedding in Copenhagen. Their English was, of course flawless, and they were as smart and interesting as any Western woman I've ever met. I'm guessing they were in their late 20's or early 30's. I couldn't help but think, as we were drinking French wine and eating mussels in curry sauce, about some of the recent conversations I've read on this forum, denigrating Filipinas for their perfidy, their dishonesty, and their greed, and on contrasting that with what I was seeing around me throughout the afternoon. It's simply amazing how easy it is to find sparkling companionship by raising one's sights above the bars. These are young women who would likely not be averse to dating foreigners, but I'm guessing would be leagues too high for the guys strolling around Fields Avenue. My point is simply that there are alternatives, not difficult to find for those interested.

GE.We fully take your point that the elite in Manila are equal to the elite anywhere else in the world. We know that the Chinese Filipinos control most of the wealth in this nation and through hard work, taking risk and by greasing the right palms, have achieved enormous success. Collaborating with the local Filipino ruling class has been the key.

You mention that your wealthy, urbane, chic friend would seriously consider dating foreigners. I put to you that amongst the mongering class, she would be of very little interest. By definition, us mongers have neither the time nor inclination to meet educated people for long term relationships in the Phillipines. We have access to similar at home. All that matters to us is instant gratification with Filipina prostitutes and one last orgasm before getting on the plane home at NAIA. It's a game.

As an example, I did arrange to have two dates with non-hookers in the Pampanga region. These were genuine, educated MILFs who had well paying managerial jobs. Perfect English, charming, well traveled and witty. I pulled out of both at the last minute. Why? Because I can get all that stress back home! Why work so hard to fuck a 35 year old when I can click a finger and get an 18 year old into my bed in 2 minutes flat? And what happens if they fall in love? A Filipina bride is certainly not on my wish list. Ever.

I am sure this lovely lady you have mentioned would be aghast if she discovered that her foreign boyfriend was a master monger. It would not be fair to anyone. I know that the Chinese are particularly careful about social status when it comes to matrimony. The boyfriend would have to be equally wealthy. However, rich men want to marry down, not up.

You describe the lavish wedding you attended in Davao. Many of us mongers also have access to that lifestyle in our own countries. It is quite passe. On this board, there are many wealthy business owners, corporate executives and entrepreneurs. Not every monger is an overweight, working class pensioner with leg ulcers in a motorised wheel chair.

The reason why we go to the Phillipines is for the dichotomy. On Monday, a monger could be in the executive boardroom in Chicago discussing the restructuring of a Fortune 500 company, and on Wednesday he could be incognito on Walking Street doing the AC shuffle with an 18 year old, illiterate nincompoop from Leyte. We do this because this is our hobby. This is our stress relief. What would be the point in pursuing a wealthy Filipina? We are not suited to commitment.

Many of us, to preserve our careers, social status and families, have become experts at hiding our hobby. This is the reason for the continuing diving / snorkeling charade. From the number of dive trips we've all had, we should all be certified chief master dive rescue instructors with four stripes by now and be on the PADI governing committee. I can assure you that the only diving that gets done is muff and ass diving.

When writing about Pinay hookers, the language is deliberately exaggerated, course, derogatory and sexist. This is done for humour, to amuse readers and to give the finger to the PC brigade who are trying to control our lives back in the west. Many of the observations and descriptions are appropriate for the hookers we are describing. Not for one moment have we suggested those descriptions apply to the educated class. I have often said that only you and RK have access to the elite and our knowledge is limited to what we can glean from the rice paddies of Eastern Samar.

The machismo spirit is alive in the Philippines and we like it. We like a few other things, but admin would just delete those posts if we went into any detail.

[Kabul Guy]

......

As an example, I did arrange to have two dates with non-hookers in the Pampanga region. These were genuine, educated MILFs who had well paying managerial jobs. Perfect English, charming, well traveled and witty. I pulled out of both at the last minute. Why? Because I can get all that stress back home! ......However with the 35 year old educated pina's you can have the best of both worlds. They can be good company and be the submissive, do anything to please her man that her uneducated 18 year old sperm bucket sisters can do.

If being a monger is just wanting to stick your dick in any moist hole, then I am not a monger. I would like to have the 35 year old educated woman who would be a freak between the sheets and a queen on the streets, especially if she was willing to turn a blind eye to my occasional getting some strange pussy on occasion or better, willing to share some with me.

[GoodEnough]

When writing about Pinay hookers, the language is deliberately exaggerated, course, derogatory and sexist. This is done for humour, to amuse readers and to give the finger to the PC brigade who are trying to control our lives back in the west. Many of the observations and descriptions are appropriate for the hookers we are describing. Not for one moment have we suggested those descriptions apply to the educated class. I have often said that only you and RK have access to the elite and our knowledge is limited to what we can glean from the rice paddies of Eastern Samar.

The machismo spirit is alive in the Philippines and we like it. We like a few other things, but admin would just delete those posts if we went into any detail.Thanks for the extended explication, and I take your point: there's a huge diversity of backgrounds, education levels, points of view and I restyles represented here. I get that. My only point, perhaps not sufficiently explained in the prior post, was that sweeping generalizations about an entire country, based on the observations of the behaviors and attitudes of a tiny sample, are not only inaccurate, but absurd.

As to the rest, there's no judgement involved, and all of us have enjoyed, at various times, the ready availability of firm, young and readily accommodating companions. In fact, the older I get (and I'm now seriously into senior citizenship) the more fortunate I often feel about the latter.

I meant to say “diversity of lifestyles” above, but for some reason, the software will not let me correct my mistake.

GE.

[DarrenGap]

....her uneducated 18 year old sperm bucket sisters can do....
.Yep, that's my ideal half hour, right there.

[Engine Driver]

However with the 35 year old educated pina's you can have the best of both worlds. They can be good company and be the submissive, do anything to please her man that her uneducated 18 year old sperm bucket sisters can do.

If being a monger is just wanting to stick your dick in any moist hole, then I am not a monger. I would like to have the 35 year old educated woman who would be a freak between the sheets and a queen on the streets, especially if she was willing to turn a blind eye to my occasional getting some strange pussy on occasion or better, willing to share some with me.KG, I too would adopt your approach if I had the luxury of time in country. Unfortunately as a two week monger, I'm not getting any younger, so my tactic is find em, fuck em and leave em. I have an intense fear of missing out. It's all just head count for me now. LOL.

It's often said that there's only two things a man regrets on his death bed:

1. he didn't spend enough time with his children.

2. he didn't get enough pussy.

[Lefeu]

...By definition, us mongers have neither the time nor inclination to meet educated people for long term relationships in the Phillipines. We have access to similar at home. All that matters to us is instant gratification with Filipina prostitutes and one last orgasm before getting on the plane home at NAIA. It's a game...Absolutely, instant gratification and diversity. Just can't beat that. As you correctly stated: "We have access to similar at home".

[PedroMorales]

Absolutely, instant gratification and diversity. Just can't beat that. As you correctly stated: "We have access to similar at home".You said it. I'll bonk a few Davao hisos I find on the street, then hit out along the trail, living off the Jolibee Daughters.

[Kabul Guy]

KG, I too would adopt your approach if I had the luxury of time in country. Unfortunately as a two week monger, I'm not getting any younger, so my tactic is find em, fuck em and leave em. I have an intense fear of missing out. It's all just head count for me now. LOL.

....We are all in different situations here. I have the luxury of time, I have had girls after a long time chatting, sometimes months before actual face to face meetings. You can get to know the girl and you have a better chance of getting a regular or good girl than a semi pro or a pro.

If I was only in and out on a 2 week cycle, I'd do much the same, did in fact my first few trips in country.

If you are on a regular cycle of coming here, as in a work meeting every other month, use your time out of country to set up meets.

You have much better luck on the dating sites getting chats going if you are actually here, or at least have a definite date of being here.

And of course it depends on what you want, if high numbers are your goal then your strategy is good, even for those of us who live here. Personally I would rather fuck a girl several times over a period of time as sex gets better each time for a while as you get to know each other. Of course since half the girls are below average in the bed, you can fuck and forget the substandard ones unless you also like their company enough to train and they are receptive to being trained.

I have one regular who was not that good at first, she was very shy and hesitant, had never given a BJ before. Now she will strip as soon as she enters my palace, undress me and start off with a stand up BJ. She loves to swallow or have me cum in her face, but that was a 4 month project.

[PilotPaul]

I have one regular who was not that good at first, she was very shy and hesitant, had never given a BJ before. Now she will strip as soon as she enters my palace, undress me and start off with a stand up BJ. She loves to swallow or have me cum in her face, but that was a 4 month project.This is the joy of having the time to train an enthusiastic novice.

I think part of my / our assessment of the initial non-performers is their motivation and willingness to improve. The girls whom have set themselves a low standard and just want to get paid, they will only ever perform to the minimum level in order to get paid.

It's the girls whom want to perform better but don't yet have the skills or experience, are the ones I select for repeat visits and extra attention for training.

This latter group are also a dream for the next monger. And also a dream if we inherit one from a previous monger whom took the time to train them.

Good days.

[Wicked Roger]

This is the joy of having the time to train an enthusiastic novice.

I think part of my / our assessment of the initial non-performers is their motivation and willingness to improve. The girls whom have set themselves a low standard and just want to get paid, they will only ever perform to the minimum level in order to get paid.

It's the girls whom want to perform better but don't yet have the skills or experience, are the ones I select for repeat visits and extra attention for training.

This latter group are also a dream for the next monger. And also a dream if we inherit one from a previous monger whom took the time to train them.

Good days.WE need time to do that and some have it many don't as they are on a 10 day shagfest.

The joy of watching a girl be devirginized by another girl or have her backside gently penetrated or to eat her sister / friends or do threesome or moresomes and then love it and want more is as KG said a 'project' but worth it (I know LOL).

Time well spent IMHO.

[PedroMorales]

They obviously have locals watching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7541039/British-man-70-Filipina-wife-kidnapped-Philippines-beach-resort.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feed

[GoodEnough]

They obviously have locals watching.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-7541039/British-man-70-Filipina-wife-kidnapped-Philippines-beach-resort.html?ns_mchannel=rss&ico=taboola_feedGiven that this happened a few hundred km from Davao, I'm curious as to why you would post it in the Davao thread.

GE.

[Engine Driver]

Given that this happened a few hundred km from Davao, I'm curious as to why you would post it in the Davao thread.

GE.Senor Morales and Chocha Monger are doing a very good in frightening away prospective mongers from Davao. That's a good thing GE, because it means more girls for you. (And me when I finally get there).

[PedroMorales]

Senor Morales and Chocha Monger are doing a very good in frightening away prospective mongers from Davao. That's a good thing GE, because it means more girls for you. (And me when I finally get there).Can you quantify that? How many have we frightened away? As I previously stated, I will be going back to Davao. As Pagadian was mentioned in the article, I will reconsider that place even though I have a lay there.

I prefer to know about the risks. Terrorism, ATM swindles than how many times some guy flush with cash scored.

I thought the story would be of interest to others, as it is to me, just as I would imagine any of you being kidnapped would be of interest. We have different informational desires here. I want information to protect me when I wander. You want to know wine lists. I want to eat durian with women who consider it a treat. You want to admire 5* toilets. I don't want to be kidnapped but I do want to hear about kidnaps. Real information to allow me assess things.

[Engine Driver]

You want to admire 5* toilets.kTouché. I'm going to give you that Sir. You win. Hahaha. All good.

[Sxxxx]

I prefer to know about the risks. Terrorism, ATM swindles than how many times some guy flush with cash scored.
We have different informational desires here. I want information to protect me when I wander. You want to know wine lists.Correct. I don't think the folk / s that were kidnapped, are comparing wine lists right now.

Mention of ATM reminded me of "Ol Joe" , who suffered for 30 odd years Parkinsons disease, and how the Davao City girls exploited him. Could happen anywhere in Phils I know, but happened in Davao City which is promoted as a safe place with wonderful wine lists.

Whilst Ol Joe was asleep the girls ran around Davao City emptying his ATM. When he got home, he had to face the music with his bank. Pretty low, doing that to an aged person fighting Parkinsons. And no, he should not have stayed home, he was a fighter, until he decided to commit suicide, about a year later. Lived not far from me, hence I know these things.

I first landed in Mindanao (Davao), in a DC3 on a grass patch, called an air strip, early 1970's. Very impressed with the people and the apparent safety of the place. Time changes, so too Davao City. Still a nice place, but of no use to me, after about 5/7 trips. I am not looking for a nice place, I am looking for a nice fuck. Plenty of other places where a guy can have fun, and where there is no problem with 'religious' issues.

I know one of the Wine List guys will read this, and have a go at me, but he is not a Monger, and thus is, as always, irrelevant.

"Fun, fun, its got to be fun, or forget it".

[GoodEnough]

I know one of the Wine List guys will read this, and have a go at me, but he is not a Monger, and thus is, as always, irrelevant.

"Fun, fun, its got to be fun, or forget it".As one of the "Wine List guys" to whom your post is addressed, it might surprise you to learn that I agree with much of what you've said. Let me add however, for the benefit of other "wine list guys," there are only a few places here with decent wine lists, though the number is growing.

Davao's mongering scene (of which I took advantage for years) is less blatant than those of Makati / Ermita and Cebu, but not very difficult to find and the quality is, generally, reasonably high with lower prices that found in the other two cities mentioned. That said, Metro Manila and Cebu are likely better for point and click mongering. Surely there's nothing in Davao that comes close to Burgos Street in Makati, or the Mango area of Cebu, and I further agree that if mongering is the only thing on the agenda, then there are simpler alternatives.

Davao remains however, a very safe city and one that is protective of foreigners.

GE.

[Goferring]

Davao's mongering scene (of which I took advantage for years) is less blatant than those of Makati / Ermita and Cebu, but not very difficult to find and the quality is, generally, reasonably high with lower prices that found in the other two cities mentioned.
......

Davao remains however, a very safe city and one that is protective of foreigners.

GE.GE,

Who'se side are you on?

The narrative is: there are no good looking girls in DVO. NONE. They are all ugly and untouchable. Militia roam the streets looking to kidnap and behead any foreigner foolish enough to look around town.

Let's keep our stories consistent, lest the market become flooded with drooling new visiting mongers. 😁.

Cheers. G.

[PedroMorales]

If every monger on this entire site went to Davao, San Pedro Street's strolling area would devour the lot of the. It is awash with pussy, though they are not to everyone's taste, catering as they do largely to a local taste (and Indoensian when Garuda lifts its game). Although Davao is relatively safe (even the Vatican is not pick pocket proof), not all the women are 100% safe. Some will try to rob you, no different from elsewhere.

So much for trying to frighten people away.

The Old Joe story is useful information to me, far more so that gold plated toilets.

Davao is a huge city, on the Australian lines one could say, stretches out for ever, not up. It is not a mongering destination and probably never will, as Duterte wants other fish to fry there. There are ex pats all over Mindanao, obvious exceptions of course. Most of them will have a local hooker / wife / whatever holding their hand and most will not stray too far, as the lady will keep their sacks drained.

This British bloke probably thought he was on an easy number like that. But he was being watched. These gangsters can range far and wide with their speed boats, so that is a pertinent point. They had spotters, so that is another.

The bus station in Davao is a major hub. Who is to say there are not spotters there, or further out?

To say Davao or any where else is a crime free Shangrila is nuts, There are heavy duty criminals everywhere, though they may not practice their craft everywhere. To take one small example, the women in Davao tell me they pay protection. Now why would they pay that and to whom? There are far more hookers there than are registered.

No different from anywhere else but that is the actual lie of the land.

[Makeupaname]

Can you quantify that? How many have we frightened away? As I previously stated, I will be going back to Davao. As Pagadian was mentioned in the article, I will reconsider that place even though I have a lay there.I've never been south of Cebu / Bohol yet, but I would have no problems with Davao or CDO. Pagadian is in the Zamboanga Peninsula region, I would never go anywhere near there.

[Engine Driver]

I did not realise Davao was a place for wine aficionados. We have read reports of Old Joe and Mr Clubfoot wandering the streets aimlessly, comparing wine tasting notes, before they keeled over. Which begs the question, isn't it too hot to drink red wine in the Philippines?

Having never drunk a glass of wine in the Philippines (us old railroad guys prefer Red Horse), I always imagine a glass of 2018 Syrah from the foothills of Mount Apo would just burn your throat when it is 95 degrees F outside with humidity to match.

In any case, the only chocolate, plum and coffee notes I want to taste are when I stick my tongue up a hot Pinay's date.

[Acejack]

Engine Driver while I don't necessarily agree with everything you said I do find your post to be BLOODY FUNNY. I am a bit of a wine buff and would drink red wine in almost any surrounds. Also I am not sure of the necessity in "date tasting notes" too but the concept does make smile constantly. Keep up the good work and hope your poon hunting days are around for a while yet.

[PedroMorales]

Keep up the good work and hope your poon hunting days are around for a while yet.The ideal resting place is beneath the vines with nubile Pinay LBFMs bringing jugs of red and white wines as we pose in our togas, as their cousins draw our portraits and recite Virgil to us. Davao has the jug carriers, the rest of Mindanao more so, rolling hills with buxom lassies waiting to be ravaged as their cousins paint our portraits and read Virgil to us.

Thailand has some good wines and China has lifted its game. The Philippines might get there yet. We can get in on the ground floor by bonking the wenches around San Pedro and explore safely beyond, as Aphrodite, Eos, Anteros.

Eros, Himeros, Hedylogos, Hermaphroditus, Hymen, Pothos, Pan, Peitho, Philotes, Priapus, Clubfoot and Old Joe do in the paradise that waits us all.

[Sxxxx]

......................The ideal resting place Clubfoot and Old Joe do in the paradise that waits us all.I believe the heaven that awaits us is called: "Whorist Heaven" , has anyone heard of it?

Word has it, that Clubfoot was quite rightly rejected at the Golden Gates (of Whorist Heaven) and sent downstairs to Hell!

Chocha Monger, do you have anything on this? Why would 'dearly departed' Clubfoot, be treated so?

[Chocha Monger]

I believe the heaven that awaits us is called: "Whorist Heaven" , has anyone heard of it?

Word has it, that Clubfoot was quite rightly rejected at the Golden Gates (of Whorist Heaven) and sent downstairs to Hell!

Chocha Monger, do you have anything on this? Why would 'dearly departed' Clubfoot, be treated so?The answer you seek lies in a wine lister's restaurant in Davao City. Enter, order a glass of French merlot, and look for the smoking man. He can enlighten you as to why the clubfooted one failed to enter the Elysian Fields. Apparently, the poor fella's last meal was a can of Friskies and a bottle of Night Train Express.

At 17.5% alcohol by volume, the Night Train is all business when it pulls into the station. All aboard to nowhere. Woo wooo! The night train runs only one route: sober to stupid with no roundtrip tickets available, and a strong likelihood of a train wreck along the way. This train-yard favorite is vinted and bottled by E&J Gallo Winery, in in Modesto, CA. Don't bother looking on their web page, because they dare not mention it there. As a clever disguise, the label says that it is made by "Night Train Limited. " Some suspect that Night Train is really just Thunderbird with some Kool-Aid-like substance added to try to mask the Clorox flavor. Some of our researchers indicated that it gave them a NyQuil-like drowsiness, and perhaps this is why they put "night" in the name.

[Sxxxx]

The answer you seek lies in a wine lister's restaurant in Davao City. Enter, order a glass of French merlot, and look for the smoking man. He can enlighten you as to why the clubfooted one failed to enter the Elysian Fields. Apparently, the poor fella's last meal was a can of Friskies and a bottle of Night Train Express.

At 17.5% alcohol by volume, the Night Train is all business when it pulls into the station. All aboard to nowhere. Woo wooo! The night train runs only one route: sober to stupid with no roundtrip tickets available, and a strong likelihood of a train wreck along the way. This train-yard favorite is vinted and bottled by E&J Gallo Winery, in in Modesto, CA. Don't bother looking on their web page, because they dare not mention it there. As a clever disguise, the label says that it is made by "Night Train Limited. " Some suspect that Night Train is really just Thunderbird with some Kool-Aid-like substance added to try to mask the Clorox flavor. Some of our researchers indicated that it gave them a NyQuil-like drowsiness, and perhaps this is why they put "night" in the name.Thanks for your detailed and entertaining response. Yes, I shall ask the 'smoking gun' , I mean, 'smoking man' and find out why Clubfoot was refused entry. I wouldn't want it to happen to me!

You have all the intel on Clubfoot. I am receiving PM's asking me "who is Clubfoot" etc. Poor things, they never experienced him in person. CF will go down in mongering history. Well, he has 'gone down' (buried) , and we all hope he 'stays down' , LOL.

It's strange the guys know all about fucky fucky, and want to talk about it 'until the cows come home' , but other matters they 'know not'. Education is required and your (CM) the resident Professor of Prostitution on ISG. Often we have to refer to you for details, as is the case with Clubfoot.

Ol Joe:

Ol Joe, I wrote about in this Davao thread just recently, hope PM'ers read what I said there. Think enough info there. Maybe I should add:

"Before Ol Joe had his ATM cleaned out in Davao City (details in my post this thread) , he paid USA rates of hospitalization for cancer treatment in Phils, for his Filipino wife to be. With significant sums of Ol Joes cash she beat the cancer and migrated to Ol Joes country, and to repay his kindness, it was not long after arriving in his country, before she met a young guy, ran away with him, and also lodged complaints about Ol Joe to the police. This was apparently to protect her 'visa requirements' , that is, explain to government authorities, why she ran off from him, soon after arrival in the country. Police investigated and realized Ol Joe was very old and was affected by a serious case of Parkinsons disease. Elvis Presley never had a chance against Ol Joe, "shaking all over". The Police realized he had been conned.

So then, eventually he returned to the Philippines, and Davao City, where his ATM was cleaned out by his overnight girl / s. Large sum of money, that Joe did not know about until he returned home from his vacation. Joe 'shook' too much, the Davao girls he knew from previous trip / s. He trusted them, and must have given his ATM number to them, as he had severe 'shakes'. He trusted people, one of his mistakes, especially when dealing with our dearly beloved Filipinas. Consequently his local bank wanted their money back. Threatened to sell his house to recoup money. A homeless Parkinsons sufferer. Not a nice plight. Banks will do it, of course. Our banks anyway.

So, a combination of 30 plus years of Parkinsons, "Cancer Patient" doing a runner on him, ATM being emptied by Davao girls, he must have decided to exit Planet Earth (suicide) , which he did, about a year after ATM event.

Nowadays you can not trust anyone, unfortunately, regardless of their ethnicity.

Hope you can understand what I have written above, I suffer (don't we all, LOL) "attention span disorder". Especially when it comes to girls, "hit and run, hit and run". If I am approached by a girl in Phils who says "don't you remember me" ? I say, sorry I suffer from a medical condition 'attention span disorder'. That fucks them (stumps them).

Anyway, all those who sent me PM's re Ol Joe, its all here (same thread) in two posts of mine.

Regarding "Clubfoot" Chocha Monger has all the 'gen' on that, and for a bonus he might introduce you to 'Trim Keeper' too. It's up to him, be nice to him, and you might unearth some interesting stuff.

Fun, fun, its got to be fun.

[Thepongo]

Hey guys how are you all, so I am headed to the Phils soon and will have a couple days to myself as the wife heads to her home town. I am not headed there again unless I am armed probably not a good plan. So I might be I Davao not sure yet and I am looking to have some fun while she is gone. It is 12 hours one way to her home town and fuck me if I am going there again. So are there any reccomendations for Davao hell a place where a gentleman can get 2 ladies to fuck me silly. Which are the nice bars bikini or sports, or are the street girls any good to have a friend I am not worried if they are in there 30's as long as they are yummy looking and clean. I got to enjoy my time in Thailand before I met her and hell even had some alone time in Phuket a couple years ago. What are the chances of some Filipina milfs taking it in the ass.

[Sxxxx]

Hey guys how are you all, so I am headed to the Phils soon and will have a couple days to myself as the wife heads to her home town. I am not headed there again unless I am armed probably not a good plan. So I might be I Davao not sure yet and I am looking to have some fun while she is gone. It is 12 hours one way to her home town and fuck me if I am going there again. So are there any reccomendations for Davao hell a place where a gentleman can get 2 ladies to fuck me silly. Which are the nice bars bikini or sports, or are the street girls any good to have a friend I am not worried if they are in there 30's as long as they are yummy looking and clean. I got to enjoy my time in Thailand before I met her and hell even had some alone time in Phuket a couple years ago. What are the chances of some Filipina milfs taking it in the ass.Yes, well a good idea would be to wine and dine at the Smoking Gun. Have a look at posts below. If no name of restaurant ask here for name and directions. Owner should be able to point you in the direction of some hookers. You will need intel before you arrive, cause Davao works at a slow pace, hence importance of that restaurant mentioned somewhere below, and proprietor. Don't take your wife to that Restaurant, staff working there might spill the beans to your wife.

My favourite 'backwater' / 'outpost' . Davao City, but not for sex, LOL.

One day, I might put a pic of a girl I had in Davao, think it was in the 1st Millenium. There is always exceptions, and she certainly was that. Would rank in my top ten, covering 45 years of whoring touring. Perhaps you will have the same luck, but hopefully, not the same girl.

[Engine Driver]

Hey guys how are you all, so I am headed to the Phils soon and will have a couple days to myself as the wife heads to her home town. I am not headed there again unless I am armed probably not a good plan. So I might be I Davao not sure yet and I am looking to have some fun while she is gone. It is 12 hours one way to her home town and fuck me if I am going there again. So are there any reccomendations for Davao hell a place where a gentleman can get 2 ladies to fuck me silly. Which are the nice bars bikini or sports, or are the street girls any good to have a friend I am not worried if they are in there 30's as long as they are yummy looking and clean. I got to enjoy my time in Thailand before I met her and hell even had some alone time in Phuket a couple years ago. What are the chances of some Filipina milfs taking it in the ass.A few things are not clear here. What is the reference to mongering in Thailand about? Do you have to be in Davao? There are better places to get the action you are seeking than in Davao. Why can't you place yourself in Manila, Cebu or AC while your wife proceeds to her shithole?

If you are legally married to a Filipina, and you fuck hookers in the Philippines on the side and she finds out, you risk time in the slammer. Haha. True.

Because of the stress and humiliation that she suffers after discovering your affair, she may file a case under the Anti-Violence Against Women and their Children Law, or Anti-VAWC for short. Abuse under the Anti-VAWC is not limited to physical violence. It also includes sexual violence, economic abuse (when the partner commits acts that make the woman financially dependent on him), and psychological violence.

Psychological violence is any act or omission that causes mental or emotional suffering to the victim. Thus, you are liable for the psychological and emotional suffering that you have caused your lovely wife.

Furthermore, your wife may file a complaint for concubinage against you and your hooker. Article 334 of the Philippine Revised Penal Code states that concubinage is committed by "Any husband who shall keep a mistress in the conjugal dwelling, or shall have sexual intercourse, under scandalous circumstances, with a woman who is not his wife, or shall cohabit with her in any other place. " The key term here is "scandalous circumstances". LOL.

Are you sure you still want to fuck those two hookers up the ass while your wife is visiting her relatives at her shithole? Don't worry, if it all turns to shit (no pun intended), we shall all visit you in Bilibid and will remember to bring you a jar of Vaseline so it's not so painful. LOL.

[PedroMorales]

So are there any reccomendations for Davao........ What are the chances of some Filipina milfs taking it in the ass.These have already been answered. And ye, duck eggs, durian and Château Lafite-Rothschild 1990 (a snip st $10 k a bottle. Ya got to think with the big head though. Davao is not a tourist destination. A tourist destination is a place idle people go to take selfies and get laid. Angeles, Cebu and Disneyland are examples of such places. Loggers' camps, duck egg farms and Davao do not focus on the tourist trade. They are more into Red Horse, coq au vin, beef bourguignon why confit de canard, with some tarte tatin to round things off. If you ask for two hookers to take it up the Khaiber Pass, you will be politely told that is off the menu. Davao is for those ofg us with a dleicate palate, who find Makati and places a little flashy and who prefer to get our ladies off the street, poor, cheap and sans condom.

[Goferring]

If you are legally married to a Filipina, and you fuck hookers in the Philippines on the side and she finds out, you risk time in the slammer. Haha. True.There is no "if". Have an anal gangbang with hookers in your wife's province and she and her friends / family WILL find out. Pongo can then pray that he has paid everyone enough incentive to look the other way and pretend nothing happened. If she / they become embarrassed and enraged then ED is right: he's in for a hell of a ride.

All the things he mentioned are available in Davao. But seriously why would someone even look in his wife's back yard when they are available at any number of locations?

If I'm totaly mistaken and banging away in the wife's back yard is indeed a good idea, everything listed is available in the central area around the casino / People's Park. Except the bikini bars: there the quality isn't great as the lookers are in the KTVs.

Enjoy. G.

[Kabul Guy]

.... I am not headed there again unless I am armed probably not a good plan. ....To be clear, foreigner plus any weapon (knife etc) will equal deportation, foreigner plus firearm will result in jail time, even if you use one owned by your wife in self defense.

[Goferring]

To be clear, foreigner plus any weapon (knife etc) will equal deportation, foreigner plus firearm will result in jail time, even if you use one owned by your wife in self defense.Agreed. To be clear (er) any one getting into and remaining in a situation that warrants deadly weapons anywhere in Asia is incredibly foolish (I'm being polite &#128513.

Pongo has done the right thing by avoiding the situation all together.

Enjoy. G.

[Thepongo]

Thanks for the advice about Davao maybe I wll get her to leave me in Bohol so I can go diving. The diving looks like ot sucks in Davao, now on that note her home is a 10 hour drive from Davao in Zomboanga Sibugay, as for the charges wow guys if that was the case half my inlaws would be in jail. As for the being armed I know some of the laws and it could be rough but if I went to her province it would be with my wife her Brother and all registered in his name. Funny story though the last time we went there we went through some army check points, at every last one I showed my ID and they all pulled me out and we started going over there weapons inside out of view I am in my countrys army. It was dicey the last time we went a year before Marawi and I got some looks I remember from some Afghans. But yeah maybe I will look at Bohol and say ok when are you going to be back and meet her in Cebu.

[Engine Driver]

A chick I know down in Abu Sayyaf territory said there was an earthquake today in Mindanao. Are all mongers, sexpats and wine bottles accounted for? Haha.

[Goferring]

A chick I know down in Abu Sayyaf territory said there was an earthquake today in Mindanao. Are all mongers, sexpats and wine bottles accounted for? Haha.Hahaha. I was talking to a chick in Davao Occ and thought I would boost my street cred by saying I was in town when the big earthquake went through 18 months ago. She was unimpressed and just said "which one? We get them all the time. ".

Cheers. G.

[GoodEnough]

Hahaha. I was talking to a chick in Davao Occ and thought I would boost my street cred by saying I was in town when the big earthquake went through 18 months ago. She was unimpressed and just said "which one? We get them all the time. ".

Cheers. G.Thanks for all of your concern gentlemen. Today we had the strongest quake I've ever felt here. I think it measured 6. 4 according to one news source. Happily my wine bottles survived intact, though, since the electricity died immediately as the electric transformer blew within seconds of the start of the quake, my ability to keep the wines at the appropriate temperature has suffered. I'm worried about a couple of the Margaux.

GE.

[Engine Driver]

I'm worried about a couple of the Margaux.

GE.Pfft. Don't be. No self-respecting trike driver would be seen washing his feet in that cheap French plonk!

[Member #4698]

I'm worried about a couple of the Margaux.

GE.Only one thing to do GE, drink up and enjoy. I hope everybody in Davao is ok.

[Sxxxx]

Pfft. Don't be. No self-respecting trike driver would be seen washing his feet in that cheap French plonk!Strange you should say that, saw one doing just that, the other day. Davao City, aka, Backwater / Outpost town.

To each his own, Cheers.

[Dg8787]

Thanks for all of your concern gentlemen. Today we had the strongest quake I've ever felt here. I think it measured 6. 4 according to one news source. Happily my wine bottles survived intact, though, since the electricity died immediately as the electric transformer blew within seconds of the start of the quake, my ability to keep the wines at the appropriate temperature has suffered. I'm worried about a couple of the Margaux.

GE.Apologies for the lack of culture and class here GE. Charlie's here only know about 2 buck Chuck and Red Horse. Meanwhile they will rail about Filipina's lack of culture and intelligence.

Hope you will enjoy your stock of Margaux.

[Sxxxx]

Engine Driver. Stop drinking red horse and clear your inbox. Thanks.

[WestCoast1]

Thanks for all of your concern gentlemen. Today we had the strongest quake I've ever felt here. I think it measured 6. 4 according to one news source. Happily my wine bottles survived intact, though, since the electricity died immediately as the electric transformer blew within seconds of the start of the quake, my ability to keep the wines at the appropriate temperature has suffered. I'm worried about a couple of the Margaux.GE, your Inbox is full.

[GoodEnough]

GE, your Inbox is full.Thanks. I cleared some space.

[PBtoCobra]

I was back in Davao last week, and after a few days in Cebu, I was back at the Marco Polo. I always raise a glass to DS, despite never meeting him.

What was more concerning was the 6. 5 quake that morning, as we were on the 15th Floor, the building shaked a lot, with a lot of swaying.

My GF who lives in Davao, was very scared, I was not.

We relaxed a bit, and then I looked out of the window, to see that the Security Guards had locked down access to the hotel, and with a few more light wobbles I decided to evacuate down the stairs.

What followed is a completely unacceptable discovery that the Earthquake response at the MP, failed in potentially very serious ways.

There was no Alarm, there was no Voice Evacuation message, there was no phone call to the room. There should have been.

I had a couple of conversations with the Front Desk over this, and to be honest, I probably would not return to the MP, they failed in their duty to alert guests in my view.

Also, as an aside, there was a Siren test at the resort we stayed at in Cebu. We were outside at the pool when the test was supposed to occur, never heard that also.

There have been quite a few significant quakes in Davao recently. Perhaps signs the Volcano may be waking.

[PilotPaul]

There was no Alarm, there was no Voice Evacuation message, there was no phone call to the room. There should have been..I am sure the workplace trainee at the front desk took it very seriously.

You know it's the Philippines right? You really do not want to ask too many questions or dig too deep on safety.

Try asking how many people have CPR experience? First aid? Basic supplies? Etc etc. The place exists on complacency and ignorance.

You did the right thing to get yourself out of the building.

[Dg8787]

I was back in Davao last week, and after a few days in Cebu, I was back at the Marco Polo. I always raise a glass to DS, despite never meeting him.

What was more concerning was the 6. 5 quake that morning, as we were on the 15th Floor, the building shaked a lot, with a lot of swaying.

My GF who lives in Davao, was very scared, I was not.

We relaxed a bit, and then I looked out of the window, to see that the Security Guards had locked down access to the hotel, and with a few more light wobbles I decided to evacuate down the stairs.

What followed is a completely unacceptable discovery that the Earthquake response at the MP, failed in potentially very serious ways.

There was no Alarm, there was no Voice Evacuation message, there was no phone call to the room. There should have been.

I had a couple of conversations with the Front Desk over this, and to be honest, I probably would not return to the MP, they failed in their duty to alert guests in my view.

Also, as an aside, there was a Siren test at the resort we stayed at in Cebu. We were outside at the pool when the test was supposed to occur, never heard that also.

There have been quite a few significant quakes in Davao recently. Perhaps signs the Volcano may be waking.Welcome to the Philippines Sir!

What do you expect? Someone to put their lives in danger for you? At less 400 pesos a day?

Most workers are on 6 months contracts and back out on the streets looking for a new job. Employers do not bother training staff. They would have to train new staff members every 6 months.

Disaster plans? Yes, everyone is on their own.

If you find yourself out the 6th story window looking for fire truck hook and ladder? Better to start tying bed sheet together for at least 5 stories!

Btw, I am truly disappointed in DS. He left his kids in poverty when he could have registered them with the USA embassy and provided them with something. DS didn’t take care of business.

[GoodEnough]

Welcome to the Philippines Sir!

What do you expect? Someone to put their lives in danger for you? At less 400 pesos a day?


Disaster plans? Yes, everyone is on their own.

Btw, I am truly disappointed in DS. He left his kids in poverty when he could have registered them with the USA embassy and provided them with something. DS didnt take care of business.Your comments about disaster planning are spot on. The very best you can do is to plan in advance, what you will do in case of a disaster. I was on the 16th floor of a high rise in Mexico City when 'the big one" struck there decades ago. There were no sirens, no announcements, and no instructions of any kind disseminated by the hotel. Don't look for anything different here.

As to DS, I'm glad to report that each of his kids now has a US Passport and a a financial settlement. I won't go into details as to how this happened, but in the end, they were at least partially taken care of.

GE.

[Dg8787]

Your comments about disaster planning are spot on. The very best you can do is to plan in advance, what you will do in case of a disaster. I was on the 16th floor of a high rise in Mexico City when 'the big one" struck there decades ago. There were no sirens, no announcements, and no instructions of any kind disseminated by the hotel. Don't look for anything different here.

As to DS, I'm glad to report that each of his kids now has a US Passport and a a financial settlement. I won't go into details as to how this happened, but in the end, they were at least partially taken care of.

GE.GE,

Glad to hear the kids got taken care of. I am sure some kind people had to do the leg work for them and advance funds on their behalf.

[PBtoCobra]

Your comments about disaster planning are spot on. The very best you can do is to plan in advance, what you will do in case of a disaster. I was on the 16th floor of a high rise in Mexico City when 'the big one" struck there decades ago. There were no sirens, no announcements, and no instructions of any kind disseminated by the hotel. Don't look for anything different here.

As to DS, I'm glad to report that each of his kids now has a US Passport and a a financial settlement. I won't go into details as to how this happened, but in the end, they were at least partially taken care of.

GE.This was not my first trip to Davao, and I am fairly well travelled, so honestly, I had no expectations as to what should have happened.

What I asked at the front desk, is what should have happened, and they told me what they do in the event of a quake. They failed to follow their own procedures.

So, now I know what to do.

Also, my day job, is very much linked to People not doing what they should be doing. So I am a bit of a Process Geek, Troubleshooter, and Coach.

Glad to head DS's children have been looked after.

[Sxxxx]

In whose culture? Are you another self righteous American telling others what they can and cant do? This is a mongering forum FFS. If you want etiquette and polite conversation, I suggest you go on the Disney Channel.

In my culture, we dont sugar coat. We give it with both barrelsWell said, couldn't be any clearer than that. To the Disney Channel you go, LOL!

[Engine Driver]

Btw, I am truly disappointed in DS. He left his kids in poverty when he could have registered them with the USA embassy and provided them with something. DS didnt take care of business.I'm surprised your post didn't get deleted for offending certain sensitive mongers. Soon this forum will be like a liberal arts college in California. BTW, when is the beatification of DS?

A note to all:

Instead of dobbing people in all the time to the moderator, can we please just let the conversation flow? This censoring of posts because they offer another view is all rather childish. That's what the MSM and the Democrats do.

[Python75]

I'm surprised your post didn't get deleted for offending certain sensitive mongers. Soon this forum will be like a liberal arts college in California. BTW, when is the beatification of DS?

A note to all:

Instead of dobbing people in all the time to the moderator, can we please just let the conversation flow? This censoring of posts because they offer another view is all rather childish. That's what the MSM and the Democrats do.I am sure posts get deleted because they either break the forum rules or are an affront to basic decency, despite this being a sex forum. They don't get deleted, as you spuriously assert, because of the sensitivities of mongers or because of contra views.

[Nightrider1]

Have eaten here many times and never a bad meal. Waitresses are sweet and attentive and the place has a nice bar as well. A bit hard to find off of J Rizal street but worth it. Mix clientele of foreigners and Filipinos. I am sure GE has been here as he appreciates good dinners.

[Goferring]

Have eaten here many times and never a bad meal. Waitresses are sweet and attentive and the place has a nice bar as well. A bit hard to find off of J Rizal street but worth it. Mix clientele of foreigners and Filipinos. I am sure GE has been here as he appreciates good dinners.+1 on the good food and atmosphere.

Heading back to the Peoples Park area there are also several massage shops that will help you work of the additional calories 😁.

Enjoy. G.

[GoodEnough]

Have eaten here many times and never a bad meal. Waitresses are sweet and attentive and the place has a nice bar as well. A bit hard to find off of J Rizal street but worth it. Mix clientele of foreigners and Filipinos. I am sure GE has been here as he appreciates good dinners.Yes, the owner has been a close friend for years. In my opinion, DBK has the best steaks in Davao, and it's the only place I know of in which to get a real baked potato. The menu is huge and varied and the emphasis is on well-prepared Western comfort-type food. For those who might have difficulty finding the place, it's on Rizal St diagonally across the street from a Metrobank.

GE.

[Engine Driver]

I am sure posts get deleted because they either break the forum rules or are an affront to basic decency, despite this being a sex forum. They don't get deleted, as you spuriously assert, because of the sensitivities of mongers or because of contra views.Yeah nah. There are grown men on this forum (geriatrics actually), that go running off to the Moderator, bawling their eyes out, because their feelings are hurt. That's what irritates me. And using censorship as a weapon to silence opposing views. No wonder this forum is going to the dogs.

[Kabul Guy]

.... DBK has the best steaks in Davao, and it's the only place I know of in which to get a real baked potato. ....
Good dead cow is hard to get here. Might have to drive down to Davao to check it out.

I really miss a good roast beef, how with mashed potatoes, gravy and veggies or cold in a rye bread sandwich with hot mustard.

[Wicked Roger]

Have eaten here many times and never a bad meal. Waitresses are sweet and attentive and the place has a nice bar as well. A bit hard to find off of J Rizal street but worth it. Mix clientele of foreigners and Filipinos. I am sure GE has been here as he appreciates good dinners.This is a good restaurant Nightrider. Have eaten here before (with GE some times) and never been disappointed. Am not an alcohol lover so ant vouch g=for the wine list except it looked good. But the food is tasty and the steaks excellent.

[GoodEnough]

Good dead cow is hard to get here. Might have to drive down to Davao to check it out.

I really miss a good roast beef, how with mashed potatoes, gravy and veggies or cold in a rye bread sandwich with hot mustard.DBK has excellent hot roast beef with the trimmings. For your sandwich, you'll have to go to Swiss Deli, about a 20 minute drive away.

GE.

[Goferring]

DBK has excellent hot roast beef with the trimmings. For your sandwich, you'll have to go to Swiss Deli, about a 20 minute drive away.

GE.KG, keep in mind, while he does have a very good menu, that he is also happy to accommodate reasonable requests. If he has the ingredients etc he will do his best to fulfill what you have asked for.

Enjoy. G.

[HotForever]

... I've had several friends who have rented condos on Magallanes (sp,) St. And have been quite satisfied with them. ...
GE.Additional info:

Seems Magellanes was affected by the recent earthquakes.

Found this in an ad, when looking for apartments:

"The unit is in Loredo building, which has not been condemned or had use restricted as a result of the recent earthquakes"

[GoodEnough]

Yes, mine was a pre-quake post. I think that two of the three buildings have been evacuated, so it's not longer a viable possibility.

GE.


Additional info:

Seems Magellanes was affected by the recent earthquakes.

Found this in an ad, when looking for apartments:

"The unit is in Loredo building, which has not been condemned or had use restricted as a result of the recent earthquakes"

[DzikaBomba]

I'm ready with my Sex-vacation planing for 2020 and it will be 2 x Cebu (Mai / June and again in November).

I'm thinking of going to Davao for a few days in between, but I'm considering if its worth it?

Are the Online Girls there are also open minded like in Cebu? And good availability?

And can please someone recommend me an guestfreindly Hotel in Davao up to about 35 $. Without ID Checks would be great.

[PedroMorales]

It seems Davao is off the map until New Year.

[Chocha Monger]

It seems Davao is off the map until New Year.Well, so much for the Pig Meat Festivals in that backwater. Do you think your favorite bagel shop will still be around in 2021? How many geriatric expats succumbed to the deathly Wuhan bat virus in the city? With their passing there will be no more fine dining complete with bottles of Chateau Lafite Rothschild.

[PedroMorales]

Well, so much for the Pig Meat Festivals in that backwater. Do you think your favorite bagel shop will still be around in 2021? How many geriatric expats succumbed to the deathly Wuhan bat virus in the city? With their passing there will be no more fine dining complete with bottles of Chateau Lafite Rothschild.Chateau Lafite Rothschild will probably take a hot. Maybe Medeira fortified wine will do the trick. It worked for the British against cholera and so on. I doubt either Chateau Lafite Rothschild or Red Horse will do the trick.

[Chocha Monger]

Chateau Lafite Rothschild will probably take a hot. Maybe Medeira fortified wine will do the trick. It worked for the British against cholera and so on. I doubt either Chateau Lafite Rothschild or Red Horse will do the trick.You would have a hard time tracking down a bottle of Madeira Bastardo in that godforsaken backwater of Davao. The locals are not exactly connoisseurs of fine wines and the expats can only afford Night Train.

[Engine Driver]

You would have a hard time tracking down a bottle of Madeira Bastardo in that godforsaken backwater of Davao. The locals are not exactly connoisseurs of fine wines and the expats can only afford Night Train.I often wonder what those erudite, French speaking Filipinos will do for food, now that the fine restaurants serving haute French cuisine have closed. Shit, those octogenarian expats with marshmallow cocks who ran those joints in that backwater can't even leave the house.

I suspect those upper crust locals won't starve. They will go back to eating rice and sardines, washed down with Red Horse, like they did many years ago before white man arrived.

[Engine Driver]

I'm ready with my Sex-vacation planing for 2020 and it will be 2 x Cebu (Mai / June and again in November).

I'm thinking of going to Davao for a few days in between, but I'm considering if its worth it?

Are the Online Girls there are also open minded like in Cebu? And good availability?

And can please someone recommend me an guestfreindly Hotel in Davao up to about 35 $. Without ID Checks would be great.I would think it is far too early for you to be planning any mongering holidays to the Philippines. No one has any idea what the world will look like in 6 months time. We do not know what laws will exist regarding movement of people, airlines and hotels might close for good, and LBFMs might move permanently to the provinces. Everyone is expecting major economic chaos, even if some of the restrictions are lifted once the Wuhan virus is under control. Many financial experts believe world stockmarkets will crash once the full economic impact is digested.

Best to keep your money. In any case, if the situation improves next year, you don't need much planning to get to Flipsville, apart from packing a pair of flip flops. I was going to say packing a couple of boxes of condoms, but then realized that was totally stupid as all the action is BBFSCIP or BBFSCIA. Hahahahahaha.

[Chocha Monger]

I would think it is far too early for you to be planning any mongering holidays to the Philippines. No one has any idea what the world will look like in 6 months time. We do not know what laws will exist regarding movement of people, airlines and hotels might close for good, and LBFMs might move permanently to the provinces. Everyone is expecting major economic chaos, even if some of the restrictions are lifted once the Wuhan virus is under control. Many financial experts believe world stockmarkets will crash once the full economic impact is digested.

Best to keep your money. In any case, if the situation improves next year, you don't need much planning to get to Flipsville, apart from packing a pair of flip flops. I was going to say packing a couple of boxes of condoms, but then realized that was totally stupid as all the action is BBFSCIP or BBFSCIA. Hahahahahaha.Yes. The worst is yet to come. Mongers are better off saving their powder for the hardships ahead. Virologists are predicting an even larger death count for the Reaper in winter, as the Wuhan virus and influenza will tag team the geriatrics with fatal effects during the second wave of the pandemic.

When the economic disaster strikes, septuagenarian mongers in academia will be the first to go as the jackbooted feminist chancellors will dismiss those male dinosaurs in favor of retaining female faculty members. Many will find themselves getting an early involuntary retirement just when they can least afford it. Retirement to Flipsville to root young hookers with asymptomatic cases of the Wuhan bat virus will be suicide at that point.

The world is still largely in the denial stage when it comes to the economic, political, and social consequences that are coming in the wake of the virus. Mongers will find the thought of BBFSCIP, BBBJCIM, and BBFSCIA frivolous compared to the troubles they shall soon see.

[PedroMorales]

I often wonder what those erudite, French speaking Filipinos will do for food, now that the fine restaurants serving haute French cuisine have closed. Shit, those octogenarian expats with marshmallow cocks who ran those joints in that backwater can't even leave the house.

I suspect those upper crust locals won't starve. They will go back to eating rice and sardines, washed down with Red Horse, like they did many years ago before white man arrived.That seems like a Treasure Island / Long Johns' Silver diet. What did they use for flavoring or dare I ask? If there is no French wine, I can't see myself making the trip. The Philippines seems too risky anyway as it all depends what Duterte might do from one second to the next.

[GoodEnough]

I often wonder what those erudite, French speaking Filipinos will do for food, now that the fine restaurants serving haute French cuisine have closed. Shit, those octogenarian expats with marshmallow cocks who ran those joints in that backwater can't even leave the house.
Just to allay your fears, and in response to your obvious concern for the wellbeing of Davao-based Francophiles, the supply of French wines remains robust and easily accessible. Though restaurants remain closed for dine-in clients, most restaurants, including those serving la cuisine française are open for delivery services. One does the best one can under such trying circumstances but noblesse oblige.

GE.

[Mahku]

News reports are saying Marco Polo Davao will close its doors indefinitely, effective June 15th. Lots of us have many good memories there. It's really sad for all the people who work there. Lots of governments and businesses have tough choices ahead.

[JonesLover]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.

[NapaSlapper]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.Very easy to score with prostitutes and fuck them at will.

Try walking into a Davao bank and see if you can score with that cutie sitting behind her desk, or the insurance salesgirl etc.

Always found Davao good girls to be the most conservative of all pinays and the very few prostitutes on offer to be of the lowest standards in looks.

It looks like many months / years will pass until tourism starts to pick up in Davao city due to the ongoing bad rap it has for Muslim problems and covid 19.

[Goferring]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.Depends on what you want and how you act. Some go and have a great time (like me). Some go and find it boring.

I will say that there are tonnes of hotties everywhere but whether you get to bed them is a totally different matter.

Enjoy. G.

[Pinaypounder]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.When I was there I rarely if ever paid directly for it. Had some dates got laid possibly every time, had many performance call backs. Its off the beaten path and girls know that man whote guys have a bigger dicka and simply treat them better,. Be nice be patient and be entertaining.

And I had no jealous behavior.

Play the dating apps.

Lots to enjoy.

PP.

[PedroMorales]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.What is your diet that you can be a human jack rabbit? It is a little richer and Duterte is a little more entrenched but that should not put a ram like you off your game. Long way to go for a root, though.

[JonesLover]

What is your diet that you can be a human jack rabbit? It is a little richer and Duterte is a little more entrenched but that should not put a ram like you off your game. Long way to go for a root, though.I have no secrets and I can tell you everything. My diet is Viagra. Ahahahahahah.

But the girls were passionate about me even just talking to me. A girl had fallen into depression because I had stopped writing to her. I had a lot of girls and I didn't like her very much, but she made me promise to meet her in the park for even 10 minutes only. Every year she writes me 4-5 times telling me that she has fallen in love with me. She also wrote to me 2 days ago.

Maybe she will have known from her friends that I have a big and hard cock ahahahaha.

This was Davao 5 years ago.

[GoodEnough]

I have no secrets and I can tell you everything. My diet is Viagra. Ahahahahahah.

But the girls were passionate about me even just talking to me. A girl had fallen into depression because I had stopped writing to her. I had a lot of girls and I didn't like her very much, but she made me promise to meet her in the park for even 10 minutes only. Every year she writes me 4-5 times telling me that she has fallen in love with me. She also wrote to me 2 days ago.

Maybe she will have known from her friends that I have a big and hard cock ahahahaha.

This was Davao 5 years ago.Sounds pretty much like a "mom's basement" fantasy to me. But to answer your vague questions with an equally vague response, Davao is alive and well and slowly emerging from the COVID-19 lockdown cocoon. On the off chance that you've actually visited here you must know that, unlike Manila and even Cebu, there are only a limited number of "point and click" places here and much of the action appears to be online. Of course for a stud muffin like yourself I assume that just walking down the street or strolling through a mall would have the women thronging to your side and begging to be with you.

GE.

[Wicked Roger]

Of course for a stud muffin like yourself I assume that just walking down the street or strolling through a mall would have the women thronging to your side and begging to be with you.

GE.And if that fails GE he could then adopt the next subtlety which to walk up to any lady in the mall he likes and ask ' Can I F**k you please, here is my hotel room and number' That always worked for me as you know I am a great stud muffin also.

[JonesLover]

I don't mind because nobody can understand my question and nobody answers me. Maybe my English isn't good, or maybe I'm kidding myself. Ajajajaja I repeat with other aprole: is it easy to fuck regular girls in Davao like 5-6 years ago or is it more difficult?

[Wicked Roger]

I don't mind because nobody can understand my question and nobody answers me. Maybe my English isn't good, or maybe I'm kidding myself. Ajajajaja I repeat with other aprole: is it easy to fuck regular girls in Davao like 5-6 years ago or is it more difficult?We all understand you JL. Looking at your past history it is full of questions like this. Mainly in Africa asking about how girls shag, how to speak with them, complaining that some offer limited information to another inane question.

Simple put, go to Davao, find out your self and lets us all know post COVID 19 what Davao is like for mongers. Things constantly change in this world so does mongering so be the first to contribute about Davao.

It is easy to shag regular girls anywhere if you have a game plan, are hygienic and don't smell like an ashtray / sewer / or alcohol etc and are respectful. Why would it be any different anywhere in the world?

[Chocha Monger]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao 5-6 years ago and I was in the earthy heaven. I could fuck every girl I met. Yet I am not young. I would like to know if Davao now is like 5-6 years ago or something has changed.

Thanks for your info.Sounds like you are a real ram and have no problem studding all the girls in Davao. You should find it even easier to stud the LBFMs in Davao this time around, as remittances are down and not many sex tourists around except for a the usual married mongers who are on a tight leash. It looks like you already have some jealous fans. Hahaha!

[PedroMorales]

Sounds like you are a real ram and have no problem studding all the girls in Davao. You should find it even easier to stud the LBFMs in Davao this time around, as remittances are down and not many sex tourists around except for a the usual married mongers who are on a tight leash. It looks like you already have some jealous fans. Hahaha!2023 is the Year of the Rabbit &, 2029 the Year of the Rooster. Maybe Davao could have a festival The Year of the Ram, where the decrepit trike drivers bring their sweeties for a 3 hole rogering by King Ram. Help the economy bounce back.

[JonesLover]

Sounds like you are a real ram and have no problem studding all the girls in Davao. You should find it even easier to stud the LBFMs in Davao this time around, as remittances are down and not many sex tourists around except for a the usual married mongers who are on a tight leash. It looks like you already have some jealous fans. Hahaha!Yes, you are right! You have just scored goals. I don't have a lot of free time in my trips and I like to study before leaving.

I don't see LBFMs in: http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

Whats is this?

[PedroMorales]

Yes, you are right! You have just scored goals. I don't have a lot of free time in my trips and I like to study before leaving.

I don't see LBFMs in: http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

Whats is this?Lovely Brown Fulsome Marriage Material. They are the SE Asian equivalent of the lovely girl next door who you would be proud to be by your side as you and an army of trike drivers blithely sail through life together. Winning the hand of a LBFM in marriage is the aim of all wise, wealthy and unworldly men. Consider it like winning the jackpot, with a ocal twist.

[Goferring]

Lovely Brown Fulsome Marriage Material. I thought it was Love Be Fore Money.

The girl I chat to always tells me that money isn't important as long as she is in love. ❤ ❤ 😘.

She is so sweet, I think I should buy her a house. 🤔

G.

[Tiny 12]

Yes, you are right! You have just scored goals. I don't have a lot of free time in my trips and I like to study before leaving.

I don't see LBFMs in: http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

Whats is this?Little Brown Fucking Machine. The term originally applied to petite Vietnamese and Thai hookers but is now applicable also in other parts of S. E. Asia and in parts of Latin America.

[PedroMorales]

I thought it was Love Be Fore Money.

The girl I chat to always tells me that money isn't important as long as she is in love. ❤ ❤ 😘.

She is so sweet, I think I should buy her a house. 🤔

G.A house is not really enough as LBFMs have expenses. Trike drivers don't come cheaply, not even in wholesale numbers. I enjoyed your post immensely and only wish Chocha Monger, our resident romantic, would appear to give his 2 c. For me, I take those vows of giving LBFMs all they deserve to heart. I only wish I had the stamina of 1200 trije drivers but alas, all I can give LBFMs is love and a fat bank account to share, Mother Theresa like, to the needy.

[Goferring]

A house is not really enough as LBFMs have expenses. True story:

A friend of mine once bought his lovely a house far bigger than anything she had every seen in her life. Her response? Its far from school!! So he also got her a motorbike for the driveway.

True love. 😁.

[George03]

I don't see LBFMs in: http://internationalsexguide.nl/forum/faq.php?faq=faq_wsgforum_01#faq_faq_terms.

Whats is this?This: http://www.lbfm.net/new/lbfm2.php.

[Goferring]

Has anyone stayed in the Avida Towers near People's Park? Is it any good?

I like to be able to walk to food, bars etc.

G.

[Malak7304]

Has anyone stayed in the Avida Towers near People's Park? Is it any good?

I like to be able to walk to food, bars etc.

G.Yeah I've been living there for almost 2 years, great spot but can't bring girls back ATM until the covid is settled down.

[Goferring]

Yeah I've been living there for almost 2 years, great spot but can't bring girls back ATM until the covid is settled down.Thanks for that. Sorry for the late response. I just saw your reply.

Stay safe. G.

[Advantageous]

What's Davao like in 2021, for both mongering and dating in general? I feel like the situation and length of time I'll be there is ideal for non-pros, but that's a steady buildup and I'm going to be impatient after the newly double-in-length quarantine. Anything open that's a sure shot, or do I just need to be extra-observant on Tinder? Additionally, will my building allow guests in at the moment? While I'm not at Avida, posts from last year seem to suggest that's a possibility. Don't want to discuss trip details just yet bc I don't know how many or few ban exemptions have been / will be granted to the area.

[Goferring]

Additionally, will my building allow guests in at the moment? .....Will your building allow YOU in at the moment?

Many places, while still on AirBnB or Agoda, have stopped taking actual bookings from new residents or are actively discouraging foreign residents.

See WestCoast's posts about accommodation difficulties. Forget about having a procession of girls rotating through the doors.

Having said that, many girls online in Davao looking for bfs and happy to meet now.

Good luck.

[WestCoast1]

Will your building allow YOU in at the moment?

Many places, while still on AirBnB or Agoda, have stopped taking actual bookings from new residents or are actively discouraging foreign residents.

See WestCoast's posts about accommodation difficulties. Forget about having a procession of girls rotating through the doors.Most condo's have a similar rule: Registered guests must be vetted: Swab test or medical certificate (Dr checkup + chest Xray), valid ID (good luck with a majority of your rotating guests having one), and possibly a police or NBI clearance (all given to the owner / host and building Admin at least 24 hours prior to entry). Guests must also live in the unit (not come / go). Most airbnb and hotels have gone to one guest only, so you might have to register only your main squeeze. Then, get used to using ST hotels. And there is a booming biz in the ST hotel sector. Sogo and Reddoorz are going great guns, having raised prices. A few weeks ago I had a girl meet me at Sogo. No vacant rooms at noon and 'fall in line' (a large line of pinoy / pinay, more than a dozen couples). Victoria Court not vacant, 2 couples waiting. We walked to two other Pensionnes in the area, no vacancy. We taxi'd to a Reddoorz, same. Taxi'd to another RD and got a room. I almost dropped the entire thing. Stuck it out and got two pops. So much for the old days of walking into Eurotel and getting a room for 3 hours for p450. VC turned away one of my girls one day (age 31) when she had a kind of Brgy eye dee, but no valid eye dee (had taken the same gal there half a dozen times in the prior two months; she's a great f*ck).

Regarding Airbb / Agoda and such. Many hotels and residences continue to both falsely advertise amenities (nice pics of the gym and pool, which are closed during Covid). This includes: 1) Them not renting it to anyone at this time (yet not removing it from Airbb / Agoda); or 2) The dates showing availability are not correct (it shows available, but when you book it, a few days / weeks later you get a message from the owner saying "Sorry we are not renting this unit these past 7 months, will refund your money" or such). Alternately it might show as unavailable on certain dates when it really is available.

[CarlosDanger]

Here in Cebu Bikini bars just starting to open and the street freelancers are back to business long ago. How about in Davao are the hot legs (or other bikini bars) open?

And are there still freelancers around San Pedro & Central bank just like before covid?

[Goferring]

And there is a booming biz in the ST hotel sector. Sogo and Reddoorz are going great guns, having raised prices. A few weeks ago I had a girl meet me at Sogo. No vacant rooms at noon and 'fall in line' (a large line of pinoy / pinay, more than a dozen couples). Victoria Court not vacant, 2 couples waiting. We walked to two other Pensionnes in the area, no vacancy. We taxi'd to a Reddoorz, same. Taxi'd to another RD and got a room. I almost dropped the entire thing. Stuck it out and got two pops. So much for the old days of walking into Eurotel and getting a room for 3 hours for p450....Hahah. I've had a girl jonesing around town looking for a wifi connection after having no cell service for a week but I've never seen a grown man trapsing around town looking for a fuckpad. 😳.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

but I've never seen a grown man trapsing around town looking for a fuckpad. Enjoy. G.I confess, that was me. The girl had spent 90 minutes in jeeps / trykes to get to the Sogo near me, and I was not in the mood to give up (had exactly one thing on my plate for the day).

Another time I went into the Sogo (Buendia) about 10 am, to see what they had available. They have a rather large lobby. They have placed socially-distanced benches in the lobby, just big enough for two people, in rows. Easily 20 couples were snaked around the lobby (s, there are two lobby areas), all pinoy, including to two fully uniformed military (man and woman) personnel. Obviously everyone is there at that time of day for a quickie. Turned and walked over to the nearby VC and quickly got a Standard room, no waiting, p999 for 12 hours. Have been using ST places quite a bit since the last ECQ; have not seen another foreigner such as myself inside one yet.

[Advantageous]

Will your building allow YOU in at the moment?

Many places, while still on AirBnB or Agoda, have stopped taking actual bookings from new residents or are actively discouraging foreign residents.

See WestCoast's posts about accommodation difficulties. Forget about having a procession of girls rotating through the doors.

Having said that, many girls online in Davao looking for bfs and happy to meet now.

Good luck.Thanks to you and Westy for the quick responses! Regarding my building, I'm probably alright — my arrangements are being handled by a company with a little pull in PH and they're pursuing a direct contract — it probably helps that I'm moving to DVO long-term as well. They also had to do a bunch of pre-arrangements for the back 4 days of my quarantine, so it (emphasis on) shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone.

As for the girl-friendly situation, it sounds like it hasn't changed from last year's posts then? I'm definitely at a place that'll check ID. Does this practice extend to houses in gated communities as well? My situation makes it to where that might be the quickest solution.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks to you and Westy for the quick responses! Regarding my building, I'm probably alright my arrangements are being handled by a company with a little pull in PH and they're pursuing a direct contract it probably helps that I'm moving to DVO long-term as well. They also had to do a bunch of pre-arrangements for the back 4 days of my quarantine, so it (emphasis on) shouldn't be much of a surprise to anyone.

As for the girl-friendly situation, it sounds like it hasn't changed from last year's posts then? I'm definitely at a place that'll check ID. Does this practice extend to houses in gated communities as well? My situation makes it to where that might be the quickest solution.I live in a gated community in Davao, and, while you might get away with it, the chances aren't high. If nothing else, your neighbors might report you as they tend to keep a close eye on things and the police here have gotten very tough on anyone who violates the rules. So, it comes down to how much risk you're willing to accept. In addition, to the extent that my community is any sort of archetype, the guards are very attentive and they do tend to question anyone whom they do not know.

GE.

[Advantageous]

I live in a gated community in Davao, and, while you might get away with it, the chances aren't high. If nothing else, your neighbors might report you as they tend to keep a close eye on things and the police here have gotten very tough on anyone who violates the rules. So, it comes down to how much risk you're willing to accept. In addition, to the extent that my community is any sort of archetype, the guards are very attentive and they do tend to question anyone whom they do not know.

GE.Noted, so a second place in Davao is a no-go. Sounds like a secondary residence (which is in my budget) in Cebu might be the order of business. Slim pickings there as well according to BMs and colleagues alike, but sounds a lot more permissive than Davao.

[WestCoast1]

Noted, so a second place in Davao is a no-go. Sounds like a secondary residence (which is in my budget) in Cebu might be the order of business. Slim pickings there as well according to BMs and colleagues alike, but sounds a lot more permissive than Davao.If the situation is the same when you arrive, then it doesn't matter if you are in Cebu or Davao. You are going to be utilizing ST hotels. If you find a ST place that you like more than the others (they can be extremely dingy, dirty), you might want to find out the monthly rate, if they have one. Whether they have one or not, make them an offer that is fairly small for one month, see if they bite at that (times are hard, they might). Same goes for pensionne houses (some are half full or less). As an example, at one ST place, I used their standard 12-hour rate (they don't have an overnight or 24 hour rate, nor a weekly or monthly rate) to multiply times 2 (24 hours), then by 30 (monthly). It was ridiculously high considering the quality of the place, and area. I took that monthly rate and divided it by 3. I asked the front desk attendant if it was possible to rent one month at that rate. They have a locked, secured cashier room, and he checked with that attendant. They told me to come inquire at a later date (guessing they needed to inquire to the owner). I returned later and was approved. I didn't end up securing that deal (yet), I am still considering it. You get a bed, a nawty mirror on the wall, aircon, no TV, and a crappy cold-water shower that sprays the entire CR with water, for about $200 USD / month. You can waltz in / out with whoever you want. Small potatoes for you as your employer is paying for your digs? I made similar offers at other ST / pensionne places and was turned down.

I would tell you to approach a nicer hotel / condo and offer more money, but those places are not in a position (at any rental price) to allow you to bring in differing guests without vetting them (as stated, swab test, NBI clearance, or such) and then limiting you to just one of those persons and asking that you have that girl live there (not just visit). Get used to the terms: Short Time Hotel; and Pensionne Houses. Also get used to paying for them (in addition to your rent). Regardless of when vaxxed foreigners are allowed back in, government rules (and private residence rules, which can be more strict than government rules; and are decided by the residence owners voting) decide hotel and residence policies, and I don't see those changing until the government says a herd-type immunity is in place and lifts its restrictions. Sadly, that could be years from now.

Such places that allow you to change girls like you chance socks are available, but they tend to be homes you rent in the twigs, in the province, with few neighbors nearby.

[WestCoast1]

In addition, to the extent that my community is any sort of archetype, the guards are very attentive and they do tend to question anyone whom they do not know.
At my previous residence. A sign at the front desk read: "Visitors allowed 8 am - 5 pm with valid eye dee". One morning I went down to the lobby to wait for my Lazada delivery. The driver had stopped by earlier in the morning to drop my package, but I was not there. He left a txt msg. When I saw it, I asked him to come right back with the package. Sitting in the comfy lobby chair, the elevator door opened, and a nicely quaffed and well-dressed mid-20's hottie stepped out and took a seat near me. A wow girl. I watched a snazzy lengthy car pull up in the drive. Thru the tinted front window I could see a professional driver, suit / tie. In the passenger seat another suit / tie guy. That guy stepped out and opened the rear door. From the car, another hottie, mid-20's, stepped out. Also getting out with her was another suit / tie guy, mid-30's. Her boyfie, or brother, maybe. As they approached the door guards, the condo hottie smiled and ran out the front door, the two hotties hugged and greeted. The suit / tie gent with her started to open the door so the ladies could come inside. But the guard held out a hand to stop that, and closed the door. They spoke, and I could not make out the conversation as they were outside. Some seriousness. The car hottie took a piece of paper from her purse and handed it to the guard. He opened it, and I could make out that it looked like an old police clearance eye dee, done on paper, with a black / white image of the girl. He handed it back to her and she put it away.

After a minute, I could hear the condo hottie say loudly: "Serious? Are you SERIOUS?" Apparently he was, as the front desk concierge (nice fella), went outside to listen in. The guard was talking to the car hottie boyfie. More unhappy discussion, with the guard and the concierge. Voices were climbing in volume from the condo hottie. Finally the condo hottie, the car hottie, and the boyfie got back in the car, and off it went. My package came shortly after and I thought little more of that as I went upstairs, showered, and was heading out for a walk to the mall. As I departed the elevator in the lobby and was headed to the door, the snazzy car pulled up again in front of the door. The front-seat guy opened the back door again. The three occupants got out of the car.

Hmmm. I took a seat just to watch. The car hottie handed the guard a laminated eye dee. He walked the eye dee and the three-person party to the front desk. The concierge looked over the eye dee and said "OK". The car hottie signed a guest registry. The girl held out her hand to take back the eye dee. Concierge: "We return it when you will leave". With that, the two ladies got on the elevator. The boyfie walked to near the couch and just stood there. I got up to leave. As the elevator doors closed, the concierge turned to his guards and said: "I don't care who her parents are. No one in without VALID eye dee. Naintinihan (understand)?" The guards nodded in the affirmative. The boyfie stared at the front desk staff from across the lobby, as if he was bored. Odd. I walked out the front door and made my way to the mall for lunch and a few shopping items.

Story not over. I taxi'd back from the mall to the condo. As required outside the condo door, a guard makes you sanitize your hands. As I was doing that I noticed inside the lobby, the boyfie was still standing, still looking at the front desk staff, a good 90 minutes later. I inquired of the condo guard: Why didn't the boyfie go upstairs with the two ladies? No eye dee? "No sir. He is private security. Bodyguard for the lady". Ah! Missed it completely.

The guards did the job correctly. Most working gals have some form of non-valid eye dee. Most of your working girls will not have a current valid eye dee. Valid eye dees, there are about 10 kinds, and all are laminated except the birth certificate. Social security, postal, Phil Health, driver's license, and so on. But all of those require other forms of valid eye dee, especially a valid original birth certificate, to obtain. Some of my girls don't have any such eye dee. Even if they have a birth certificate, often their names are not correct (mis-spelled, or switched middle / last name) and need to be fixed before using it to get a valid eye dee. I have found that eye dees that are on simple paper are often not accepted as a form of eye dee, just like the car hottie. Why in the world did she carry that eye dee and not also the valid eye dee?

Early last year in Manila, at a large condo in Makati, I walked one of my gals in. The guard took her eye dee (both clearly a fake, poorly-laminated valid-type eye dee, and the pic was clearly of another woman) and had her sign the registry. The next morning the guard gave back the eye dee as I walked the girl out. Those days are maybe gone.

[Advantageous]

If the situation is the same when you arrive, then it doesn't matter if you are in Cebu or Davao. You are going to be utilizing ST hotels. If you find a ST place that you like more than the others (they can be extremely dingy, dirty), you might want to find out the monthly rate, if they have one. Whether they have one or not, make them an offer that is fairly small for one month, see if they bite at that (times are hard, they might). Same goes for pensionne houses (some are half full or less). As an example, at one ST place, I used their standard 12-hour rate (they don't have an overnight or 24 hour rate, nor a weekly or monthly rate) to multiply times 2 (24 hours), then by 30 (monthly). It was ridiculously high considering the quality of the place, and area. I took that monthly rate and divided it by 3. I asked the front desk attendant if it was possible to rent one month at that rate. They have a locked, secured cashier room, and he checked with that attendant. They told me to come inquire at a later date (guessing they needed to inquire to the owner). I returned later and was approved. I didn't end up securing that deal (yet), I am still considering it. You get a bed, a nawty mirror on the wall, aircon, no TV, and a crappy cold-water shower that sprays the entire CR with water, for about $200 USD / month. You can waltz in / out with whoever you want. Small potatoes for you as your employer is paying for your digs? I made similar offers at other ST / pensionne places and was turned down(...)Sounds like a shitty hill, but not bad enough to die on. I'd definitely pay more than that to have a room that doesn't visibly disgust me, but I've also banged in Bali X Houses so it's not like it's be the worst digs I've ever done the deed in. I am headed over regardless (exemptions have an expiry date), so one way or another I'll need to figure some sort of arrangement out. Ultimately I guess it'll have to suffice in the long term; beggars can't be choosers, and after 14 days of quarantine room quality will probably be a less compelling make-or-break metric.

[GoodEnough]

Noted, so a second place in Davao is a no-go. Sounds like a secondary residence (which is in my budget) in Cebu might be the order of business. Slim pickings there as well according to BMs and colleagues alike, but sounds a lot more permissive than Davao.You are, of course, free to do as you please. I should re-emphasize however that the police here do not mess around with those seen to willfully violate the rules, and foreigners are not exempted. The availability of young women in Davao is not an issue, but finding a place to safely sate your lust may be.

GE.

[GoodEnough]

For anyone who may be interested, a new isolation edict went into effect in Davao today, banning any out of the house / residence activities on Sundays. I presume exceptions are granted for medical emergencies, but no casual travel on Sundays is permitted.

GE.


You are, of course, free to do as you please. I should re-emphasize however that the police here do not mess around with those seen to willfully violate the rules, and foreigners are not exempted. The availability of young women in Davao is not an issue, but finding a place to safely sate your lust may be.

GE.

[Advantageous]

For anyone who may be interested, a new isolation edict went into effect in Davao today, banning any out of the house / residence activities on Sundays. I presume exceptions are granted for medical emergencies, but no casual travel on Sundays is permitted.

GE.And the hits keep coming! Of course they "plan" to relax those settings the week I'm out of quarantine and in Davao, but they also "planned" to relax the quarantine last year so oh well.

Sage advice seems to be on focusing my energies towards finding one stunner and going through all the paperwork to allow her regular access to my home. The backup plan is still Cebu though, so we'll see how that works out.

[GoodEnough]

And the hits keep coming! Of course they "plan" to relax those settings the week I'm out of quarantine and in Davao, but they also "planned" to relax the quarantine last year so oh well.

Sage advice seems to be on focusing my energies towards finding one stunner and going through all the paperwork to allow her regular access to my home. The backup plan is still Cebu though, so we'll see how that works out.As of today, I'm reasonably sure that Cebu is under a tighter quarantine than Davao, so you might want to re-think that. On the other hand, I have no idea how vigorously the rules are applied in Cebu. As I've said in other posts, in Davao, you violate the regs are your peril because the police do not appear to be fooling around with this. The good news is that for at least 6 days a week, travel around Davao and access to establishments is relatively easy. However, almost all retail establishments require presentation and scanning of the Davao QR code, for which anyone can register on line. If you're planning on coming to Davao, registering for the QR code is mandatory; it's also relatively painless and quick. I think your plan of sticking with a single woman is likely a better alternative than dipping into a constant stream of girls. It will be less noticeable and therefore more likely to fly.

GE.

[Advantageous]

As of today, I'm reasonably sure that Cebu is under a tighter quarantine than Davao, so you might want to re-think that. On the other hand, I have no idea how vigorously the rules are applied in Cebu. As I've said in other posts, in Davao, you violate the regs are your peril because the police do not appear to be fooling around with this. The good news is that for at least 6 days a week, travel around Davao and access to establishments is relatively easy. However, almost all retail establishments require presentation and scanning of the Davao QR code, for which anyone can register on line. If you're planning on coming to Davao, registering for the QR code is mandatory; it's also relatively painless and quick. I think your plan of sticking with a single woman is likely a better alternative than dipping into a constant stream of girls. It will be less noticeable and therefore more likely to fly.

GE.Fingers crossed it gets better, but even the situation at hand is pretty manageable when you put it that way. That said, a company in my industry had a pretty big outbreak of COVID in Davao and the local gov't seems to be taking it pretty seriously, so my main worry is having an office I can go into by the time I get done with quarantine in Manila, much less my LGU. I got vaccinated months ago at this point, so this is admittedly more about logistics and comfort than any actual danger to my being.

Well, RIP to Operation Visayas! That said, with the new updates I think we've securely established that one in the hand is worth any number in the Bush at the moment. Since I'm in Phils for work, I can't really risk earning the ire of the cops, so I'll have to keep on the straight and narrow so far as covid compliance is concerned. Going to make sure my follow-up visa is multiple entry though, so hopefully I'll at least have Phuket or Bali as an emergency release valve should they open as scheduled and measures get too draconian.

[GoodEnough]

Fingers crossed it gets better, but even the situation at hand is pretty manageable when you put it that way. That said, a company in my industry had a pretty big outbreak of COVID in Davao and the local gov't seems to be taking it pretty seriously, so my main worry is having an office I can go into by the time I get done with quarantine in Manila, much less my LGU. I got vaccinated months ago at this point, so this is admittedly more about logistics and comfort than any actual danger to my being.

Well, RIP to Operation Visayas! That said, with the new updates I think we've securely established that one in the hand is worth any number in the Bush at the moment. Since I'm in Phils for work, I can't really risk earning the ire of the cops, so I'll have to keep on the straight and narrow so far as covid compliance is concerned. Going to make sure my follow-up visa is multiple entry though, so hopefully I'll at least have Phuket or Bali as an emergency release valve should they open as scheduled and measures get too draconian.I'm not sure that anyone else on this site cares much about this topic, but I try to stay current on it as I live in Davao so it's in my self-interest to understand the day-to-day changes. If you've got any additional questions with which you think I can help, please feel free to send me a PM and I'll respond. The one further bit of good news with implications for your interests is that the mayor has basically opened the vaccinations to everyone over the age of 18. Supply shortage remains a bit of an issue, though Davao seems to be increasing its supply of vaccines. Thus, anyone in your preferred age range should be able to obtain at least a first dose relatively easily and the registration process is simple and efficient.

GE.

[WestCoast1]

The one further bit of good news with implications for your interests is that the mayor has basically opened the vaccinations to everyone over the age of 18. Supply shortage remains a bit of an issue, though Davao seems to be increasing its supply of vaccines. Thus, anyone in your preferred age range should be able to obtain at least a first dose relatively easily and the registration process is simple and efficient.On a similar note, a few days ago here at a mall one morning, I saw a longggg line of people in the hallway. Young adults, elderly, Filipino and one foreigner. I asked a kiosk cashier lady why the folks were in line. "Covid vaccine sir. You can get". Really. Anyone? "Yes sir". Foreigner even? "Yes sir". I should go home and make an online appointment? "No sir. Just fall in line they will get your information. You have valid eye dee? Yes. Thanks sweetie, I need to shop.

I shopped for a shirt in the department store, about 20 minutes. When I came out, the line was down by 1/3, moving pretty quickly.

On a similar note yesterday I read an article about gluts of vaxxes available in the US. There was a picture of a pharmacy, with an employee in the parking lot near the street, waving traffic in. The large sign next to him said, like: "Free Covid Vaccines. We have Moderna and Pfizer, take your pic. Walk-ins welcome everyday".

Doesn't get much better than that.

[GoodEnough]

On a similar note, a few days ago here at a mall one morning, I saw a longggg line of people in the hallway. Young adults, elderly, Filipino and one foreigner. I asked a kiosk cashier lady why the folks were in line. "Covid vaccine sir. You can get". Really. Anyone? "Yes sir". Foreigner even? "Yes sir". I should go home and make an online appointment? "No sir. Just fall in line they will get your information. You have valid eye dee? Yes. Thanks sweetie, I need to shop.

I shopped for a shirt in the department store, about 20 minutes. When I came out, the line was down by 1/3, moving pretty quickly.

On a similar note yesterday I read an article about gluts of vaxxes available in the US. There was a picture of a pharmacy, with an employee in the parking lot near the street, waving traffic in. The large sign next to him said, like: "Free Covid Vaccines. We have Moderna and Pfizer, take your pic. Walk-ins welcome everyday".

Doesn't get much better than that.Yes, the US is, I guess, the only country in the world that's awash in vaccines, and yet vaccine resistance and outright rejection are obstacles to a more efficient rollout. It's difficult for me to understand, but then there's a lot about the country that I no longer understand, so I'll just add that to the list.

GE.

[Advantageous]

Yes, the US is, I guess, the only country in the world that's awash in vaccines, and yet vaccine resistance and outright rejection are obstacles to a more efficient rollout. It's difficult for me to understand, but then there's a lot about the country that I no longer understand, so I'll just add that to the list.

GE.Yeah, it's a bit of a headscratcher. I'm from a state where vaccination rates has been pretty good outside of a few problem areas, but in states like New Mexico and Ohio, they're literally giving out tickets to these big money raffles if you'll just get vaccinated, and they're STILL having a hard time finding takers.

[Pinaypounder]

Yeah, it's a bit of a headscratcher. I'm from a state where vaccination rates has been pretty good outside of a few problem areas, but in states like New Mexico and Ohio, they're literally giving out tickets to these big money raffles if you'll just get vaccinated, and they're STILL having a hard time finding takers.Here is what I don't understand. Any man who dares to travel to a 3rd world to fuck the impoverished sans Condom 75% of the time is scared of a cold? Why would you possibly take a vaccine, untested un proven for a cold?

PP.

[PedroMorales]

Here is what I don't understand. Any man who dares to travel to a 3rd world to fuck the impoverished sans Condom 75% of the time is scared of a cold? Why would you possibly take a vaccine, untested un proven for a cold?

PP.Because Big Pharma want us dependent upon their crap and all Western politicians are on the game or imbeciles or both. I have not taken the jab and I don't want to be in some stupid raffle. You must remember that the sheep here who go along to get along do so to look like they are smart, which they patently are not. Most folk I know got the jab. I know folk who got covid, some badly but so what? I don't need a diseased Pinay pussy carrot that much and I have a violent reaction to those who try the stick approach on me.

There is still widespread rejection in Europe. Long may it continue.

[Advantageous]

Here is what I don't understand. Any man who dares to travel to a 3rd world to fuck the impoverished sans Condom 75% of the time is scared of a cold? Why would you possibly take a vaccine, untested un proven for a cold?

PP.Some things can only be understood if you're subconsciously willing to, boss. I'll leave you and your god (or lack thereof, not going down that hole) to figure out the rest of your comment or its veracity, I'm going to order another smoothie from room service.

[WestCoast1]

Yes, the US is, I guess, the only country in the world that's awash in vaccines, and yet vaccine resistance and outright rejection are obstacles to a more efficient rollout. It's difficult for me to understand, but then there's a lot about the country that I no longer understand, so I'll just add that to the list.


SNIP I'm from a state where vaccination rates has been pretty good outside of a few problem areas, but in states like New Mexico and Ohio, they're literally giving out tickets to these big money raffles if you'll just get vaccinated, and they're STILL having a hard time finding takers.Caveat: I'm not a doctor, but I play one on this Board. Some vax stuff. Not sure what forum this belongs in.

Picture: Vax graph for the US, from NPR. Shows the share of Americans who intend to get vaxxed: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/07/984697573/vaccine-refusal-may-put-herd-immunity-at-risk-researchers-warn.

Reasons people don't want to get vaxxed. I am not condoing any science here, I am a fly on the wall, reporting what others see in the media:

"The 6 reasons Americans aren't getting vaccinated" from VOX: https://www.vox.com/2021/6/2/22463223/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-reasons-why.

"13% of adults say they will 'definitely not' get the COVID-19 vaccine. Here are their reasons" by jsonline: https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/2021/04/09/covid-vaccine-not-everyone-wants-one-why-side-effects-effectiveness-fear-of-needles/4841405001/.

"18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine" from Citzen's Journal: https://www.citizensjournal.us/18-reasons-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine/.

And that pesky glut of vaccines in the US. What to do with that? "Joe Biden outlines plan to share 80 m Covid vaccine doses with world" from The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/03/biden-outlines-global-covid-vaccine-sharing-plan.

[Advantageous]

Caveat: I'm not a doctor, but I play one on this Board. Some vax stuff. Not sure what forum this belongs in.

Picture: Vax graph for the US, from NPR. Shows the share of Americans who intend to get vaxxed: https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/04/07/984697573/vaccine-refusal-may-put-herd-immunity-at-risk-researchers-warn.

Reasons people don't want to get vaxxed. I am not condoing any science here, I am a fly on the wall, reporting what others see in the media:

"The 6 reasons Americans aren't getting vaccinated" from VOX: https://www.vox.com/2021/6/2/22463223/covid-19-vaccine-hesitancy-reasons-why.

"13% of adults say they will 'definitely not' get the COVID-19 vaccine. Here are their reasons" by jsonline: https://www.jsonline.com/story/communities/2021/04/09/covid-vaccine-not-everyone-wants-one-why-side-effects-effectiveness-fear-of-needles/4841405001/.

"18 Reasons I Won't Be Getting a Covid Vaccine" from Citzen's Journal: https://www.citizensjournal.us/18-reasons-i-wont-be-getting-a-covid-vaccine/.

And that pesky glut of vaccines in the US. What to do with that? "Joe Biden outlines plan to share 80 m Covid vaccine doses with world" from The Guardian: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/03/biden-outlines-global-covid-vaccine-sharing-plan.I don't know what to tell you outside of the fact that if people want to stop having the distinction of being the only country that mandates these idiot shields on top of masks, they better line TF up. Resistance is fine if you're in the province, but they're not letting you into major population centers for very long IMHO.

Addendum: After the my paperwork was lost and mysteriously found in about the time it would take to run everything again from scratch, I made it into Davao City. Pretty quiet though; not sure I’ll have a lot to report in the short-term, least of all while I do a 4-day LGU quarantine.

[PedroMorales]

Following the Dunkirk evacuation, Lord Beaverbrook got the British to hand over their pots and pans to be turned into tanks for the war effort. The Brits swung behind this and the papers were full of plucky Brits doing their bit by handing in their frying pans. The pans were totally useless for the war effort but it got the ordinary folk involved and it looked like the clowns in charge knew what they were doing.

Masking up Pinays is no different. It allows the cops bully Joe Adoboa and maybe punish them, by making them do push ups until they expire, as they did in Manila.

The fact is politicians in the Philippines are as much corrupt as are their American and European counter parts. The main drivers for the spread of Covid 19 are poverty, squalour and the related matters of their incompetence and corruption.

My take away is no more Pinay pussy not now, in the Northern summer, or in a few months when the no-flu-Covid season kicks off again.


I don't know what to tell you outside of the fact that if people want to stop having the distinction of being the only country that mandates these idiot shields on top of masks, they better line TF up. Resistance is fine if you're in the province, but they're not letting you into major population centers for very long IMHO.

Addendum: After the my paperwork was lost and mysteriously found in about the time it would take to run everything again from scratch, I made it into Davao City. Pretty quiet though; not sure Ill have a lot to report in the short-term, least of all while I do a 4-day LGU quarantine.

[GoodEnough]

Addendum: After the my paperwork was lost and mysteriously found in about the time it would take to run everything again from scratch, I made it into Davao City. Pretty quiet though; not sure Ill have a lot to report in the short-term, least of all while I do a 4-day LGU quarantine.Aside from mandatory shopping trips, I'm sticking within the confines of our property despite having been fully vaccinated. So my suggestion is not based on direct observation. That said, you might want to check out whether the karaoke ET is up and running. You can find the address on Waze and / or Google Maps. It was a terrific place for a quick hook-up prior to the pandemic, and, since it's owned by the first family, it might still be open. Other than that, I do notice lots of Davao-based girls expressing their availability on Facebook, so that's another possible alternative.

GE.

[Advantageous]

Aside from mandatory shopping trips, I'm sticking within the confines of our property despite having been fully vaccinated. So my suggestion is not based on direct observation. That said, you might want to check out whether the karaoke ET is up and running. You can find the address on Waze and / or Google Maps. It was a terrific place for a quick hook-up prior to the pandemic, and, since it's owned by the first family, it might still be open. Other than that, I do notice lots of Davao-based girls expressing their availability on Facebook, so that's another possible alternative.

GE.One thing I've had plenty of time to do during this seemingly endless quarantine is build and video vet my pipeline from some dating apps, so if nothing else I should have very little trouble as far as willing participants go. That said, I did check on the KTV in question, but it still seems to be closed. A lot of girls seem to be available for some sort of arrangement on apps and social media, especially students, but Philippines logic and economic sensibilities are still abound even in this climate, hence the vetting.

One thing I want to confirm: I'm going to have to go ST hunting per Westy's sage advice, but until then I've been cooped up in quarantine for the better part of two weeks, and these first couple girls need to be low fuss if I keep it to one or even two girls per booking, are places open for "staycation" and the like going to let me slide? Honestly with how things are on the hotel pricing front I could even risk letting a girl book the spot in her name with my cash after an in-person kicking of the tires.

[GoodEnough]

One thing I've had plenty of time to do during this seemingly endless quarantine is build and video vet my pipeline from some dating apps, so if nothing else I should have very little trouble as far as willing participants go. That said, I did check on the KTV in question, but it still seems to be closed. A lot of girls seem to be available for some sort of arrangement on apps and social media, especially students, but Philippines logic and economic sensibilities are still abound even in this climate, hence the vetting.

One thing I want to confirm: I'm going to have to go ST hunting per Westy's sage advice, but until then I've been cooped up in quarantine for the better part of two weeks, and these first couple girls need to be low fuss if I keep it to one or even two girls per booking, are places open for "staycation" and the like going to let me slide? Honestly with how things are on the hotel pricing front I could even risk letting a girl book the spot in her name with my cash after an in-person kicking of the tires.Sorry, but I have no information. I haven't stayed in a hotel in Davao for two decades and have no idea how they're operating now. The potential good news is that there are now so many hotels in the city in so many price ranges that a bit of shopping should net you what you need. I'the suggest checking along the Lanang corridor where I seem to see hotels popping up like mushrooms in the woods after a rain. But again, I have no first hand knowledge.

GE.

[Advantageous]

Been here for a couple weeks now, though I've only been off quarantine for about 10 days. Not sure how Davao normally is for mongering or even casual dating, but it's a rough go right now. Malls and shopping places are obviously a gamble because most girls's faces are at least partially obscured (though it hasn't stopped me from taking a few swings at cashiers and the like), and obviously most other places for social gatherings are closed. The online came isn't a lot better; walkers and the like have all migrated to Facebook groups for a truly hit-or-miss experience, and I'm batting a solid 2-for-5 so far as overall positive experiences go. Girls from outside Davao City proper are hesitant to come into downtown, and girls from inside Davao on Tinder seem to be mostly scams, ladyboys, or awash in an ocean of makeup.

All in all, I'm still moving here long-term for work, but I think after I'm moved into my new place I'll look at a secondary spot back in the NCR. I might be too much of a city slicker to stay here all the time, amazing traffic conditions and relatively unbusy S&are aside.

P.S. - In response to my own question about hotels, Inns like Oh George are as indescriminate as always, and I had no problem bringing a guests to a 4-star hotel so long as they had a valid ID.

[Goferring]

Been here for a couple weeks now, though I've only been off quarantine for about 10 days. Not sure how Davao normally is for mongering or even casual dating, but it's a rough go right now. I'm not there now (sadly) but Davao never was a point and shoot town like Manila or Cebu. It does take some time. My first visit I was essentially striking out right up until I was due to leave so given the current situation, an introduction period of a couple of weeks before you and the girls connect sounds about right. Don't be too discouraged though. I've met some truely spectacular girls there over subsequent visits.

[GoodEnough]

Been here for a couple weeks now, though I've only been off quarantine for about 10 days. Not sure how Davao normally is for mongering or even casual dating, but it's a rough go right now. Malls and shopping places are obviously a gamble because most girls's faces are at least partially obscured (though it hasn't stopped me from taking a few swings at cashiers and the like), and obviously most other places for social gatherings are closed. The online came isn't a lot better; walkers and the like have all migrated to Facebook groups for a truly hit-or-miss experience, and I'm batting a solid 2-for-5 so far as overall positive experiences go. Girls from outside Davao City proper are hesitant to come into downtown, and girls from inside Davao on Tinder seem to be mostly scams, ladyboys, or awash in an ocean of makeup.

All in all, I'm still moving here long-term for work, but I think after I'm moved into my new place I'll look at a secondary spot back in the NCR. I might be too much of a city slicker to stay here all the time, amazing traffic conditions and relatively unbusy S&are aside.

P.S. - In response to my own question about hotels, Inns like Oh George are as indescriminate as always, and I had no problem bringing a guests to a 4-star hotel so long as they had a valid ID.Glad to hear you found a hotel that would accommodate your needs. There are, or there were pre-COVID several point and click locales here, but I'm guessing they're all closed at least for the duration. I have however noticed loads of girls from the region on FB. I rarely play here for personal reasons, but had I wanted to, I could have built a long list of girls from FB alone. S&are by the way, pre-COVID was often so crazy crowded that it was difficult to move, so I wouldn't accept what you're currently experiencing as normal or at least not the prior normal. I'll be in Manila for a few days next month and I already know from friends who live there that many if not all of my usual haunts are closed, and the same, I'm told is true for Cebu. It will take quite a while for things to return to any semblance of what they used to be.

GE.

[PedroMorales]

The NYT (sorry about the crummy source) has a video here about Edgar Matobato, who alleges he was a hit man in Duterte's death squad for 24 years. Good steady employment. He says he whacked about 50 dudes and dudesses before he retired. I am sure the DDS won't min the him blabbering.

[JonesLover]

Hi friends,

I was in Davao some years ago and I loved this wonderful city.

I fucked some girls even if I'm not young, but didn't fuck pro girls bur regular girls only.

I'm European and many girls took interest for me. Yes, so many girls.

When the pandemic is less, I would like to return to The Philippines, but I don't know whether to return to Davao or Cebu.

I gave them a counter value of 10 euros a day and they who stayed with me all day and night and they were happy.

I'd like to get some suggestions please.

Could you tell me the difference between a Davao and Cebu girl?

I like regular, beautiful, simple, cheerful, next-door type, sweet girls.

Thanks for your info.

[Goferring]

Could you tell me the difference between a Davao and Cebu girl?

I like regular, beautiful, simple, cheerful, next-door type, sweet girls.

Thanks for your info.The cities and the girls within are totally different:

Davao girls are much more provincial ie may take longer to be comfortable entering a stranger foreigner's hotel room, will be very concerned about nosey friends and family finding out, may have limited inperson exposure to westerners / past boyfriends. The majority will be locals living with their family. Even those who moved to town for study or work will likely be living with a sister, aunt or similar. Expect a lot of GFE and civilians or part timers. Like for like, financial expectations are about half of Cebu. Physically, relatively tall and buxom girls, many who will have gorgeous faces.

Cebu is a large metropolitan city with every type of girl from innocent students to the filthiest hoes on the planet. Many very professional girls who are available to anyone who will pay the price of admission. Probably the most active online dating scene in the Philippines. Many, many girls who have migrated from else where in the province or further for work, study or selling pussy. Many have no family here or at least have fewer concerns about being seen with dirty old men. Service levels can be anything from GFE to hard professional. Looks of true cebuana are typically about 5' flat or less with a homely body. Having said that all types are available due to the high number of girls from other provinces.

The above are generalisations and there will be exceptions but you get the idea.

In short: want to party hard with skilled professionals, go to Cebu; want to relax with some cuties that may require some ground work, go to Davao.

Enjoy. G.

[JonesLover]

In short: want to party hard with skilled professionals, go to Cebu; want to relax with some cuties that may require some ground work, go to Davao.Thanks for your wonderful advice. I found your advice very very useful. I don't know how well you know the Philippines and I would like to ask you other more specific questions.

Between Cebu and Davao I prefer Davao much more. I really enjoy getting the boyfriend life with a girl, even if I'm old. In your opinion are there other cities like Davao or should I just focus on this city? For example Cagayan de Oro, Bacolod, etc. Etc.

I really like talking online with a girl before I meet her, so I don't think I will have to work a lot once I will meet her.

What is your suggestion?

[Sammon]

Thanks for your wonderful advice. I found your advice very very useful. I don't know how well you know the Philippines and I would like to ask you other more specific questions.

Between Cebu and Davao I prefer Davao much more. I really enjoy getting the boyfriend life with a girl, even if I'm old. In your opinion are there other cities like Davao or should I just focus on this city? For example Cagayan de Oro, Bacolod, etc. Etc.

I really like talking online with a girl before I meet her, so I don't think I will have to work a lot once I will meet her.

What is your suggestion?I do chat with girls who are in provincial towns. But I avoid going there to meet them. Most want commitment. Also want their mother's approval to stay with me. Couple of times I went the girls although stayed with me and had fun, very quickly they got serious and wanted me to meet their family. Very tricky situation.

After that I have had girls travel and stay with me in Manila and Cebu only. I send flight ticket and some little money for expenses. All did come except one girl who tried to scam me. I lost 500 pesos I sent. She tried to return the air ticket for cash but when told only purchaser can request refund or credit she was mystified. Tried to tell me the flight ticket I sent was fake and wanted money sent so that she can buy the ticket. I did cancel the ticket and got the refund. All the other girls really enjoyed plane ride and we had lots of fun together. Girls tell me there are resorts near their place but I would not bite. I feel much safer in Manila and Cebu.

[JonesLover]

I do chat with girls who are in provincial towns. But I avoid going there to meet them. Most want commitment. Also want their mother's approval to stay with me. Couple of times I went the girls although stayed with me and had fun, very quickly they got serious and wanted me to meet their family. Very tricky situation.

After that I have had girls travel and stay with me in Manila and Cebu only...... Girls tell me there are resorts near their place but I would not bite. I feel much safer in Manila and Cebu.Please, let me understand better: you make girls come to Cebu or Manila, but where do they start from? Where do they live?

I think it's safe to do this in Davao too, because if a girl likes to travel to Davao from Cagayan de Oro or Zamboanga, it means she likes to have fun and you are safe from any problems. Am I wrong? Why do you do it only in Cebu or Manila? I think you can do it even in Davao.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks for your wonderful advice. I found your advice very very useful. I don't know how well you know the Philippines and I would like to ask you other more specific questions.

Between Cebu and Davao I prefer Davao much more. I really enjoy getting the boyfriend life with a girl, even if I'm old. In your opinion are there other cities like Davao or should I just focus on this city? For example Cagayan de Oro, Bacolod, etc. Etc.

I really like talking online with a girl before I meet her, so I don't think I will have to work a lot once I will meet her.

What is your suggestion?Please remember that, though well-intentioned, the advice you're getting speaks in gross generalities that may or may not be accurate in specific cases. I've lived in Davao, for example, for more than 20 years, and yet I find some of the characterizations, if not grossly inaccurate then at least somewhat misleading. The fact is that there's a large P4 P scene in Davao, though it's a bit better hidden than in Cebu or pre-Covid Manila, and yet there are also myriad opportunities to meet non-pros, semi-pros, and in fact the entire gamut of possibilities. I've not spent nearly as much time in Cebu, but I assume the same is true there as well, or at least I found it such. Cagayan de Oro, a much smaller city, also offers the entire range of possibilities and opportunities as do, I'm sure, other cities. My advice is to stop focusing on "types" of women and think instead more of the types of living situations that appeal to you more. I enjoy Davao because it's got most of the amenities associated with a big city, yet it's less congested, cleaner and more orderly than Cebu. I like Makati as well, since around the Greenbelt area it's reasonably modern, clean and safe. With a bit of time and effort—assuming you're eschewing the point and click approach—you're likely going to find what you're looking for in Davao, Cebu, CdO or wherever you choose to settle down. Remember too that here in Davao, the air travel time between cities is short and fairly inexpensive. So, if you come to Davao, don't like it and want to try your luck in Cebu, you're only 90 minutes away. You can drive or take a bus to CdO in 7 hours or fly there in 45 minutes or so.

I get that free advice is often worth exactly what it costs, but that's my two cents. I've had great times in all of these cities and have done so without much effort.

GE.

[Goferring]

Between Cebu and Davao I prefer Davao much more. I really enjoy getting the boyfriend life with a girl, even if I'm old. In your opinion are there other cities like Davao or should I just focus on this city? For example Cagayan de Oro, Bacolod, etc. Etc.

I really like talking online with a girl before I meet her, so I don't think I will have to work a lot once I will meet her.

What is your suggestion?I enjoy both cities but for different reasons. As I said, go to the one that fits your mood at the time.

For an older guy looking for a longer term GFE, that can be obtained anywhere. The provincial centers offer less purely commercial interactions and the cost of "gifts" is lower. The down side can be the girls become possessive and may not look the other way when others are tried.

In normal times, I never chat unless I'm in town / country and can meet now. The level of false promises, no shows etc is just too high to place any belief upon anything said online. Not to mention avoiding all the financial stressors that will come to light before even arriving in town.

[JonesLover]

Could you take away a curiosity? I make an example:

If you stay with a girl for a whole day and she sleeps in your apartment, how much money do you give to a girl from Davao and how much from Cagayan de Oro?

I remember an amazing thing when I was in Jakarta (Indonesia). I was already old and she was 24. I had talked online to a girl who came from far away. She had to travel 4 hours by bus to reach me and 4 hours to come back home.

I advised her not to come because she had to go home the same day. But she came anyway. She was in my apartment for 2 hours and we had a good fuck. I started fucking her when she was almost asleep to rest. Jajajaja Then she realized that she was already late to take the bus again and I forgot to give her even some money for the transport. After two days she writes to me again telling she wanted to come back to me just to fuck. Jajajajajaja I told her absolutely no, because I couldn't but she insisted, she insisted a lot. I was forced to tell her a lie and tell her that I was at the Airport to return to my country.

I don't believe that such a thing could happen in Mindanao. But I'm curious to know is whether the Mindanao girls will come to me to enjoy the fuck or just for money? Thank you!

[Mahaba]

If you want to do a "Love Test" then tell her you cannot pay her and do not intend to have a relationship. I doubt anyone will visit.


Could you take away a curiosity? I make an example:

If you stay with a girl for a whole day and she sleeps in your apartment, how much money do you give to a girl from Davao and how much from Cagayan de Oro?

I remember an amazing thing when I was in Jakarta (Indonesia). I was already old and she was 24. I had talked online to a girl who came from far away. She had to travel 4 hours by bus to reach me and 4 hours to come back home.

I advised her not to come because she had to go home the same day. But she came anyway. She was in my apartment for 2 hours and we had a good fuck. I started fucking her when she was almost asleep to rest. Jajajaja Then she realized that she was already late to take the bus again and I forgot to give her even some money for the transport. After two days she writes to me again telling she wanted to come back to me just to fuck. Jajajajajaja I told her absolutely no, because I couldn't but she insisted, she insisted a lot. I was forced to tell her a lie and tell her that I was at the Airport to return to my country.

I don't believe that such a thing could happen in Mindanao. But I'm curious to know is whether the Mindanao girls will come to me to enjoy the fuck or just for money? Thank you!

[JonesLover]

If you want to do a "Love Test" then tell her you cannot pay her and do not intend to have a relationship. I doubt anyone will visit.OK, than you but my question was another about prices (first line).

[WestCoast1]

OK, than you but my question was another about prices (first line).


Could you take away a curiosity? I make an example: If you stay with a girl for a whole day and she sleeps in your apartment, how much money do you give to a girl from Davao and how much from Cagayan de Oro?There is no good answer (amount of money) that is exact in either city. The 'going rate' was a term we used for FL in various cities before Covid. It was a rough guide only. For instance, at the time, if most gents were giving 1500 for ST to Burgos street girls or LAC gals, that kind of became a 'going rate' guide. However many girls (even older fuglies) set ridiculously higher amounts and refused to budge down, making the 'going rate' just a suggestion. A hottie who might have laughed at you for suggesting 2500 yesterday, might be giddy happy to get p1623 from you today, the exact amount of her family's remaining Meralco bill, again making the 'going rate' just a suggestion. The same applies anywhere you go in any city, any country. Everything changes with the mind-set of every girl, and from day to day with each girl.

OTOH, an approximate guide is that prices drop depending on the size of the city. The smaller the city, the less you *usually* pay. There are exceptions to every rule. Several times in the province I have had girls ask for ridiculously large amounts for a first meet (as much as 20 x the 'going rate' in that place).


But I'm curious to know is whether the Mindanao girls will come to me to enjoy the fuck or just for money? Thank you!Highly doubtful. It has happened before that a provincial girl will bus from her town to your provincial city on a first date to meet you, then spend a night or two with you, then she goes home without any money. Most girls would be injured from that. Foreigners are seen by the locals literally as very wealthy (regardless of his income) just by his skin color. A common misconception here among locals is that foreigners just *naturally* give money, even for un-earned behavior.

Your story of the Indo gal that received nothing and then wanted to come back. That happens anywhere, but is unusual. However, it is not reproducible as a test. You never know in advance if the girl will expect compensation, and I can assure you that the culture generally expects it.

She might enjoy the f*ck? Maybe. Many of my regulars enjoy sex, but that's not why they are there. Mostly its a fantasy on a gent's part (like getting 2 bargirls for a 3-some, where the gent is expecting some lesbo action, yet the girls are not thinking that way; this is fantasy).


If you want to do a "Love Test" then tell her you cannot pay her and do not intend to have a relationship. I doubt anyone will visit.I'm with Mahaba. This will eliminate 90% (or all) of your girls. The answer to Jonesy's question is in asking the girl in chat before meeting if she's willing to f*ck for sport only.

[JonesLover]

Prices have completely changed since the last time I went to Davao. If I was with a girl for 3-4 days all day, including the night, I always gave 1500 pesos and everyone was happy. But then again, all of them were regular girls.

[Cbea20]

To one point, a girl may leave without asking for payment, and you mistakenly assume she was only there for the sex. In reality she's too new / shy / ashamed / doesn't know how to ask for money. You are a real heel not to offer it. To another point, don't make your offer in advance / bargain with a girl in front of her peers. They always exaggerate what they earn or only talk about the high rollers. Take her and head for the door and on the way whisper in her ear what you intend to pay. Back in the day at the L. A. Cafe for me it was 1 k-1. 5 k short-long time respectively.


There is no good answer (amount of money) that is exact in either city. The 'going rate' was a term we used for FL in various cities before Covid. It was a rough guide only. For instance, at the time, if most gents were giving 1500 for ST to Burgos street girls or LAC gals, that kind of became a 'going rate' guide. However many girls (even older fuglies) set ridiculously higher amounts and refused to budge down, making the 'going rate' just a suggestion. A hottie who might have laughed at you for suggesting 2500 yesterday, might be giddy happy to get p1623 from you today, the exact amount of her family's remaining Meralco bill, again making the 'going rate' just a suggestion. The same applies anywhere you go in any city, any country. Everything changes with the mind-set of every girl, and from day to day with each girl.

OTOH, an approximate guide is that prices drop depending on the size of the city. The smaller the city, the less you *usually* pay. There are exceptions to every rule. Several times in the province I have had girls ask for ridiculously large amounts for a first meet (as much as 20 x the 'going rate' in that place).

Highly doubtful. It has happened before that a provincial girl will bus from her town to your provincial city on a first date to meet you, then spend a night or two with you, then she goes home without any money. Most girls would be injured from that. Foreigners are seen by the locals literally as very wealthy (regardless of his income) just by his skin color. A common misconception here among locals is that foreigners just *naturally* give money, even for un-earned behavior.

Your story of the Indo gal that received nothing and then wanted to come back. That happens anywhere, but is unusual. However, it is not reproducible as a test. You never know in advance if the girl will expect compensation, and I can assure you that the culture generally expects it.

She might enjoy the f*ck? Maybe. Many of my regulars enjoy sex, but that's not why they are there. Mostly its a fantasy on a gent's part (like getting 2 bargirls for a 3-some, where the gent is expecting some lesbo action, yet the girls are not thinking that way; this is fantasy).

I'm with Mahaba. This will eliminate 90% (or all) of your girls. The answer to Jonesy's question is in asking the girl in chat before meeting if she's willing to f*ck for sport only.

[Goferring]

Could you take away a curiosity? I make an example:

If you stay with a girl for a whole day and she sleeps in your apartment, how much money do you give to a girl from Davao and how much from Cagayan de Oro?

I don't believe that such a thing could happen in Mindanao. But I'm curious to know is whether the Mindanao girls will come to me to enjoy the fuck or just for money? Thank you!Dude, you are over thinking this waaaay too much. Just go there, find a girl, and have some fun. If she is a hard core pro then she will quickly point this out and make her expectations clear. A part timer will need "help" for the rent, school etc of 1000 to 1500 p based on her time and effort. For a "freebee" at least offer to cover here transport to get to you, say 300 p return.

Yes, Mindanao girls can be inquisitive too but don't make a habit of abusing it.

[Sammon]

Dude, you are over thinking this waaaay too much. Just go there, find a girl, and have some fun. If she is a hard core pro then she will quickly point this out and make her expectations clear. A part timer will need "help" for the rent, school etc of 1000 to 1500 p based on her time and effort. For a "freebee" at least offer to cover here transport to get to you, say 300 p return.

Yes, Mindanao girls can be inquisitive too but don't make a habit of abusing it.Show your Humanity. Never ever take advantage of girls. You spend lots of money going there but you are skimping on giving money. Does not make sense. Only reason the girl is willing to sleep with you is for money help. She is also hoping for knight in shining armor to take her away and give her a good life but she is under no illusion. She knows the reality is foreigners come for sex and they give money.

Even if she refuses money put money in her purse anyway saying it is a gift. Do not say it is taxi money because they never ever take taxi. They are used to cheap jeepney rides.

Be generous and be happy'.

[WestCoast1]

Show your Humanity. Never ever take advantage of girls.


Dude, you are over thinking this waaaay too much. Just go there, find a girl, and have some fun.


To one point, a girl may leave without asking for payment, and you mistakenly assume she was only there for the sex. In reality she's too new / shy / ashamed / doesn't know how to ask for money. Well said. We are feeding the troll.

[CarlosDanger]

Hello,

I will appreciate if someone can help me see the situation in today's Davao by providing info on the following three questions:

1- Is it still an issue to bring girls to your hotel. Like how things were in 2020?

2- Are bikini bars (for example Hot legs) finally open?

3- Are the freelancers (Central Bank chicks & San Pedro freelancers) back?

[Engine Driver]

Hello,

I will appreciate if someone can help me see the situation in today's Davao by providing info on the following three questions:

1- Is it still an issue to bring girls to your hotel. Like how things were in 2020?

2- Are bikini bars (for example Hot legs) finally open?

3- Are the freelancers (Central Bank chicks & San Pedro freelancers) back?Yes, everything is now back to normal, just as it was back in 2019. Just less Chinese, Aussie and Indian mongers, so less competition for you. No one is even wearing masks now.

1. There is no issue in bringing girls to the hotel. You can take as many as you like up to the room. Security will give you a polite nod and waive you in. No one checks ID, masks, face shields or vaccination certificates etc anymore. Just like the old days. The new mayor wants people to return to mongering to simulate the economy.

2. All the bikini bars are back in action and they have all been renovated by the Korean owners. Just like before, you need to be there by 6.00 pm otherwise the Koreans will have taken all the hot chicks. Get there early and barfine the girl you want right away. Prices are now 2,200 peso for all night, unlimited pops. You can negotiate a weekly rate of 8,000 peso directly with the mamasan if you want the hot girl to be with you longer. That will really screw the Koreans if you take a girl out for a week. Beers are 70 peso and lady drinks are 200 peso.

3. Plenty of freelancers out every night just like the old days. They are looking young and pretty now. Some real hotties about. Price is about 1,000 peso all night, unlimited pops.

So all up, Davao is a mongers paradise now and they have a good wine scene as well if that is your thing.

[GoodEnough]

Funny, but I've lived in Davao for almost 20 years and yet my experience and observations differ radically from yours. Please let us all know the specific "bikini bars" to which you refer, and where you can get ladies for Php2,200 all night, given that in all of the time I've lived here, I've never seen such bars and prices. I know this town pretty well, and I'd be hard pressed to come up with any names, so please enlighten those of us who who have no idea what you're talking about. I'm also interested in where you're hanging out where "no none is even wearing masks," since I go out most days and everyone I see is fully masked. I'm also curious about the "new mayor," since there isn't one and elections don't take place until next year, at which time the current mayor, who's the daughter of the prior mayor, will be replaced by her brother. And please specify the hotels to which you're referring, as I notice your post is long on ungrounded generalities but quite short on details.

I look forward to your next post on specific bars and locations, the name of the new mayor (who doesn't exist), and the hotels (names please) which provide no hassles regarding women you're bringing in.

GE.


Yes, everything is now back to normal, just as it was back in 2019. Just less Chinese, Aussie and Indian mongers, so less competition for you. No one is even wearing masks now.

1. There is no issue in bringing girls to the hotel. You can take as many as you like up to the room. Security will give you a polite nod and waive you in. No one checks ID, masks, face shields or vaccination certificates etc anymore. Just like the old days. The new mayor wants people to return to mongering to simulate the economy.

2. All the bikini bars are back in action and they have all been renovated by the Korean owners. Just like before, you need to be there by 6.00 pm otherwise the Koreans will have taken all the hot chicks. Get there early and barfine the girl you want right away. Prices are now 2,200 peso for all night, unlimited pops. You can negotiate a weekly rate of 8,000 peso directly with the mamasan if you want the hot girl to be with you longer. That will really screw the Koreans if you take a girl out for a week. Beers are 70 peso and lady drinks are 200 peso.

3. Plenty of freelancers out every night just like the old days. They are looking very young and pretty now. Some real hotties about. Price is about 1,000 peso all night, unlimited pops.

So all up, Davao is a mongers paradise now and they have a good wine scene as well if that is your thing.

[Sammon]

According to my limited experience Davao is not considered a mongering destination with sex in your face. It is strictly chat and meet type. For locals I am sure there are venues but for foreigners it is a conservative town. I was chatting with some girls from there and they said it is better for them to come to Cebu or Manila to be with me. I have also heard hotels maybe strict. I do not know where the poster gets the idea. Did he post a trip report or general observation or dreaming!

[GoodEnough]

According to my limited experience Davao is not considered a mongering destination with sex in your face. It is strictly chat and meet type. For locals I am sure there are venues but for foreigners it is a conservative town. I was chatting with some girls from there and they said it is better for them to come to Cebu or Manila to be with me. I have also heard hotels maybe strict. I do not know where the poster gets the idea. Did he post a trip report or general observation or dreaming!My impression is that it's largely BS. However, there are take-out bars in Davao, many frequented by expats, and there are places with rooms on premises. And while it's true, as you say, that they're largely frequented by locals, expats are welcome in all of them. However, I've not heard that any of them have re-opened, and not one of them offers Php2200 all night specials, or at least none that I know of. In fact restaurants here are still restricted to about ⅓ of their former dine-in capacity and masks are required everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. And the rule is strictly enforced.

GE.

[DzikaBomba]

What Engine Driver posted is pure irony. That's typical for him from what I have read from him on this forum.

Funny that nobody seemed to notice this irony.

[Sammon]

My impression is that it's largely BS. However, there are take-out bars in Davao, many frequented by expats, and there are places with rooms on premises. And while it's true, as you say, that they're largely frequented by locals, expats are welcome in all of them. However, I've not heard that any of them have re-opened, and not one of them offers Php2200 all night specials, or at least none that I know of. In fact restaurants here are still restricted to about ⅓ of their former dine-in capacity and masks are required everywhere, and I do mean everywhere. And the rule is strictly enforced.

GE.Since you live there and has been living there for a long time your input is 100 % valid. Some people might have gotten lucky but unless they post a recent trip report with locations, prices etc it is difficult to believe. Do not want fellow mongers jumping in and booking ticket to Davao and get disappointed.

Me personally stick to known places and guaranteed satisfaction.

[PedroMorales]

3. Plenty of freelancers out every night just like the old days.That is what I paid about three years ago, all night of course. Of course, fee lancers would be all over the place as they need the money. I imagine there would be few checks in the cheaper hotels.

No doubt local mongers would know better. Those who do not monger would not know. I've been in rat infested "bars" there and I doubt they or the rats wear masks. Expecting bottom feeders to obey rules they can avoid in their home turf is silly.

No doubt locals who actually monger can give us the two up.

I've just returned from a free lancer. Good by standards here, not by Davao's standards, alas.

[WestCoast1]

Yes, everything is now back to normal, just as it was back in 2019. Just less Chinese, Aussie and Indian mongers, so less competition for you. No one is even wearing masks now.Guessing ED was being facetious with Carlos.

[GoodEnough]

Guessing ED was being facetious with Carlos.I know you're correct, and as I just clarified in a PM to ED, I hadn't checked first to see who wrote the post. If I had, I would have recognized the facetiousness of it, but I read only the content and took it as serious. My fault for being unobservant. Written within the context of irony it was a pretty hilarious post.

GE.

[TailPipe]

I'm planning to take a sabbatical next year and spend 1/2 a yr in Asia an 1/2 in sub-saharan Africa. I have some mongering experience in Africa. I know what I can expect there. No experience in Asia.

I RTFF till 2017 but surprisingly little info on prices. Just the discussion with JonesLover whom I believe to be the reincarnation of a previous user, something with hunter (Dear Hunter?)

I understand there is no union set price but a punter should know what is acceptable. Otherwise you might be fleecing the girls or end up paying ridiculous prices.

I read GoodEnough's 1000-1500 for an amateur semi-pro but it wasn't clear to me if that is ST or LT. Bit unsure because I read Mr Enternational pays 1000 but that is in Cebu and I suppose ST and Kabulguy 1000 + transport, province unknown.

And what to think about the so called freebies? In Africa I always try to pay because a) You are expected to do so b) She might be embarrassed or afraid to ask. C) She's playing the long game. D) She hopes you will marry her.

In real life I'm also active on dating sites and I know from experience there are few young woman online searching for an older man. 20 yrs difference is more or less the max. I'm in my forties so theoretically I still can pull a younger woman but it's getting harder and she may not be top notch quality. Why would a 30 yr old woman sleep with a 60 yr old man for free without an ulterior financial motive? But if real freebies do exist let me know.

[Soapy Smith]

I'm planning to take a sabbatical next year and spend 1/2 a yr in Asia an 1/2 in sub-saharan Africa. I have some mongering experience in Africa. I know what I can expect there. No experience in Asia.

I understand there is no union set price but a punter should know what is acceptable. Otherwise you might be fleecing the girls or end up paying ridiculous prices.

I read GoodEnough's 1000-1500 for an amateur semi-pro but it wasn't clear to me if that is ST or LT. Bit unsure because I read Mr Enternational pays 1000 but that is in Cebu and I suppose ST and Kabulguy 1000 + transport, province unknown.

And what to think about the so called freebies? In Africa I always try to pay because a) You are expected to do so b) She might be embarrassed or afraid to ask. C) She's playing the long game. D) She hopes you will marry her.I hope your sabbatical doesn't start before Fall at the earliest. The knowledgeable folks in this forum, and especially expats who are in the country, are reinforcing the idea that nobody really knows when fully open travel will return and things will open up. This is the Philippines, so don't base your hopes on policymaking as it occurs in Western industrialized countries. If the country opens up, you probably can't do much better than the Philippines for a sabbatical.

GE and KG are reliable and knowledgeable posters, and their price quotes are probably pretty close, but nobody really knows what the market will be by Fall 2022. Mr. E's reputation precedes him, so he may well get special prices, even freebies, on a regular basis.

As to the expectation of paying, please see WestCoast's post below, in which he quotes and reinforces three other reliable posters about not paying. WC knows mongering norms for the Philippines about as well as anyone.

[GoodEnough]

I'm planning to take a sabbatical next year and spend 1/2 a yr in Asia an 1/2 in sub-saharan Africa. I have some mongering experience in Africa. I know what I can expect there. No experience in Asia.

I RTFF till 2017 but surprisingly little info on prices. Just the discussion with JonesLover whom I believe to be the reincarnation of a previous user, something with hunter (Dear Hunter?)

I understand there is no union set price but a punter should know what is acceptable. Otherwise you might be fleecing the girls or end up paying ridiculous prices.

I read GoodEnough's 1000-1500 for an amateur semi-pro but it wasn't clear to me if that is ST or LT. Bit unsure because I read Mr Enternational pays 1000 but that is in Cebu and I suppose ST and Kabulguy 1000 + transport, province unknown.

And what to think about the so called freebies? In Africa I always try to pay because a) You are expected to do so b) She might be embarrassed or afraid to ask. C) She's playing the long game. D) She hopes you will marry her.

In real life I'm also active on dating sites and I know from experience there are few young woman online searching for an older man. 20 yrs difference is more or less the max. I'm in my forties so theoretically I still can pull a younger woman but it's getting harder and she may not be top notch quality. Why would a 30 yr old woman sleep with a 60 yr old man for free without an ulterior financial motive? But if real freebies do exist let me know.I think you should heed Soapy's advice. This is the Philippines and that means there's no predictability to government policy and no assurance that it will remain consistent. To repeat what I've said earlier: everyone (at least here in Davao) is masked all of the time, even when driving alone in a car. Failure to comply with that rule will result in a quick fine and the overwhelming majority of people here obey it. Restaurants are quasi-open, with indoor dining allowed at about ⅓ of capacity, masks worn at all times except when eating or drinking, and no alcohol may be served. Outdoor venues maintain strict social distancing and all bars are closed. I have no first hand information on the policies of the hotels that remain open, but I imagine they're fairly strict, though I'm guessing that by-the-hour, short-time hotels remain open. I have no information at all about the SW scene since that's never been my thing. However, when I do drive at night I've not observed any obvious presence of ladies looking for business. Much of the action here seems to have moved online and I assume no one would have any problem finding willing short-term companions to take to short-time hotels of which there are many, though again, I cannot confirm that they're open.

Just as an aside, I cannot recall saying that ST was available for Php1,000-1,500 here. Perhaps in the provinces somewhere, but surely not here unless you're lucky enough to find a true naïf. The fact is, I have no idea what current prices are.

Given the above, I'the suggest you begin your year-long sojourn in Africa, as Kenya, Ghana and Uganda, to name but three, appear to be open for business as usual, or almost as usual. I would advise you or anyone contemplating coming here to wait at least 6 months until the new normal has become better defined. Of course situations here vary from city to city. I understand that Angeles is at least somewhat open for business. However, given the general lack of joy that's the current ambience of the country, I'the again recommend starting in Africa.

GE.

[Goferring]

Just as an aside, I cannot recall saying that ST was available for Php1,000-1,500 here. Perhaps in the provinces somewhere, but surely not here unless you're lucky enough to find a true naf. The fact is, I have no idea what current prices are.

GE.I was going to do a post about Davao pricing for online hookups confirming that 1 k was indeed what I paid last time I WAS there. I emphasis 'was' because it was before COVID ie years ago now. Equally, the OP won't be arriving for a while yet. Exactly how long is anyone's guess.

For reference, a few insisted on only receiving true taxi fare 2 or 300 p.

[GoodEnough]

I was going to do a post about Davao pricing for online hookups confirming that 1 k was indeed what I paid last time I WAS there. I emphasis 'was' because it was before COVID ie years ago now. Equally, the OP won't be arriving for a while yet. Exactly how long is anyone's guess.

For reference, a few insisted on only receiving true taxi fare 2 or 300 p.I suppose I should have been clearer in my original post. First, I actually typed in the word "naïf" which the self-correcting feature altered without my having realized it. Second, my comments were framed within the context of face-to-face, point and click places such as bars and KTVs. I have zero experience with any online arrangements here in Davao so I'm not surprised that Goferring's experience—as well as those of others—might differ. There's a well-known member of this group with quite broad experience outside of Davao but in other major cities, who routinely does what Goferring has described, and has painstakingly built up a network of providers over a long period. Again, being in a 20 years relationship here, I have no experience in nor any interest in doing the same as it would threaten my relationship. So, to reiterate, I meant to address only the girlie bars and KTVs, and not any other contexts or mechanisms.

As an aside, Davao's rules on bars (no alcohol) and indoor seating (about ⅓ capacity in restaurants) are, I'm sure, having a highly detrimental impact on the places to which I refer. In fact, I've no idea if any of them remain open. The longer this drags on, it's logical to assume that desperation will grow and even more girls will become available on various online portals.

GE.

[Goferring]

Second, my comments were framed within the context of face-to-face, point and click places such as bars and KTVs. I have zero experience with any online arrangements here in Davao so I'm not surprised that Goferring's experienceas well as those of others might differ..

GE.For comparison, my visit to a KTV during the same trip was 7 k but that included a few normal and lady drinks. She was very cute and it was a good night but the OP can see that the formal establishments' pricing is multiples of the informal or semi pro girls.

Pick your Poison. 😁.

[TailPipe]

Just as an aside, I cannot recall saying that ST was available for Php1,000-1,500 here. Perhaps in the provinces somewhere, but surely not here unless you're lucky enough to find a true naf. The fact is, I have no idea what current prices are.

Given the above, I'the suggest you begin your year-long sojourn in Africa, as Kenya, Ghana and Uganda, to name but three, appear to be open for business as usual, or almost as usual. I would advise you or anyone contemplating coming here to wait at least 6 months until the new normal has become better defined. Of course situations here vary from city to city. I understand that Angeles is at least somewhat open for business. However, given the general lack of joy that's the current ambience of the country, I'the again recommend starting in Africa.

GE.I might have mistakingly attributed that quote to you. Where I will go? Don't know yet. In Africa there's not much healthcare and if you're unlucky and contract Covid you might be gasping for air if there is no oxygen. Anyway The Philippines and Madagascar are high on my list and Ill probably add one more country in Africa and one more in Asia, maybe Cambodia.

[TailPipe]

For comparison, my visit to a KTV during the same trip was 7 k but that included a few normal and lady drinks. She was very cute and it was a good night but the OP can see that the formal establishments' pricing is multiples of the informal or semi pro girls.

Pick your Poison. 😁.I'm not stingy 😉. Anyway I prefer more authentic amateurs. Unless you are foreigner nr. 221. Then there is not much authentic about it.

[GoodEnough]

I might have mistakingly attributed that quote to you. Where I will go? Don't know yet. In Africa there's not much healthcare and if you're unlucky and contract Covid you might be gasping for air if there is no oxygen. Anyway The Philippines and Madagascar are high on my list and Ill probably add one more country in Africa and one more in Asia, maybe Cambodia.I don't know what your timeline is, but if you're planning a trip to the Philippines in the immediate future you might need to revise your schedule. MetroManila is just beginning to experience what will doubtless be an Omicron surge and will lead inevitably to more restrictions on movement. The rest of the country lags a bit behind Manila but it's also inevitable that the beginning of a new wave will hit all areas over the next couple of weeks leading to more draconian restrictions nationwide. Even now, tourists are prohibited from entry and the Bureau of Immigration has had to "rethink" its plans to re-open the country to foreign tourists. I've had no recent experience in Cambodia but from what I understand it's allowing tourists to enter, or at least it was as of a few days ago.

On the Africa front, Mada is fairly primitive and if you're concerned about the availability of major medical institutions, Kenya might be a better bet, but again, my years spent in Africa ended two decades ago—aside from a brief sojourn of 6 weeks to Kenya—and so my information could be well out of date.

GE.

[Goferring]

I'm not stingy 😉. Anyway I prefer more authentic amateurs. Unless you are foreigner nr. 221. Then there is not much authentic about it.Davao has some gorgeous amateurs. I found them very easy to get along with and keen to please in and out of the bedroom. Several only wanted their taxi paid for (about 2 or 300 p return) and even the most demanding stayed as long as I wanted for 1000 p.

Just be prepared that they may not be point and shoot and an introductory date may be required sometimes with a friend in tow.

I hope your timetable works out.

[TailPipe]

Davao has some gorgeous amateurs. I found them very easy to get along with and keen to please in and out of the bedroom. I'll have some of that, sounds great. 😀 What kind of age bracket / physique where you dating?


Several only wanted their taxi paid for (about 2 or 300 p return) and even the most demanding stayed as long as I wanted for 1000 p.
Overnight Included?


Just be prepared that they may not be point and shoot and an introductory date may be required sometimes with a friend in tow.I'm totally fine to meet up first as to get to know each other.

I feel less easy about a chaperone whether it's a friend or a family member. If I date a girl it's me and her. All my attention should go to her and vice versa. If she brings someone along I would consider that to be unserious and rude. But I have never been to the Philippines so...

Off-topic: If a girl asks what you are looking for. What do you answer? I usually tip toe around it. I don't give a strait forward reply but if they are a bit smart they should know what my cowardly answer really means. 😅

[WestCoast1]

If I date a girl it's me and her. All my attention should go to her and vice versa. If she brings someone along I would consider that to be unserious and rude. But I have never been to the Philippines so...Its the opposite in Phils. Most girls will bring a friend / cousin / neighbor. She might bring one even if you tell her not to. The good news is that they will probably want to meet at McDonalds or JollieBee, and your total cost for all 3 meals will be $10 or less. She is sussing you out. Pinay need the approval of their friends before meeting a second time. Be a gent around the tag-along friend, it will get you a second date. Pinay shed their panties quickly when they are comfortable with you. Others weigh in please.

[Goferring]

I'll have some of that, sounds great. 😀 What kind of age bracket / physique where you dating?

Overnight Included?

I'm totally fine to meet up first as to get to know each other.

I feel less easy about a chaperone whether it's a friend or a family member. If I date a girl it's me and her. All my attention should go to her and vice versa. If she brings someone along I would consider that to be unserious and rude. But I have never been to the Philippines so...

Off-topic: If a girl asks what you are looking for. What do you answer? I usually tip toe around it. I don't give a strait forward reply but if they are a bit smart they should know what my cowardly answer really means. 😅Q1. 19 to 26.

Q2. Hideous. Like this (View the Original Post for Photos):


I came across this flat chested lass in Davao.

Swore that she was the smallest of her sisters.Q3. If mutually agreeable. Some had responsibilities to return to.

Q4. What Westie said.

I'd just add if she orders food for 27 she is just wasting your time and milking you for the left overs to take home to her family. If you want to watch her squirm, play the game and when 80% of the order is uneaten she will ask for a doggy bag. When it arrives you claim it saying you will put in the fridge in your room for later.

It's perfectly normal for some girls to bring a friend or want a meet you for a platonic first date. 90% go off without a problem.

Q5. As you have been doing. Side step the question or say politely that it's too soon to know what will happen.

[Dg8787]

Its the opposite in Phils. Most girls will bring a friend / cousin / neighbor. She might bring one even if you tell her not to. The good news is that they will probably want to meet at McDonalds or JollieBee, and your total cost for all 3 meals will be $10 or less. She is sussing you out. Pinay need the approval of their friends before meeting a second time. Be a gent around the tag-along friend, it will get you a second date. Pinay shed their panties quickly when they are comfortable with you. Others weigh in please.Most young girls have never venture far from the barangay. Most if not all will need someone to go with them to anywhere. The companion will wait and wait for the girl to go back home. 80% of the time it is not a scam.

IMO, I am not sure what tailpipe has to offer? He is coy about his intentions. Just state it. Why play around?

[GoodEnough]

Davao has either just entered or is about to enter Level 3, which means that movements will be more restricted than they have been over the past few months. As is usual here, what the new restrictions are isn't very clear yet though I note that the Bureau of Immigration will be staffed at 30% of its normal levels. Seating capacity in restaurants will be reduced yet further, making it ever more difficult for these establishments to survive, and I think I read that proof of full vaccination will now be required for entry into some places at least. There's now a debate about wether the MetroManila area should be placed under a Level 4 alert, though the distinctions between levels 3 and 4 aren't clear to me.

The Philippines appears to be about a month or so behind the US relative to the Omicron wave, so it's doubtful that this country has yet to reach its peak and we've noticed that the Pfizer vaccine seems to have become more difficult to obtain, though supplies of the Chinese vaccine and AstraZeneca seem to be holding steady. Whether the apparent Pfizer shortage is due to a delay in shipment or because more people are getting vaccinated and it is the vaccine of first choice for most people is unclear. When I received my booster about 3 weeks ago, all vaccines were available, so something has changed. Schools here have been shut for 2 years or so and I've seen no evidence that they're going to open for in-person learning anytime soon.

If the Philippines follows the paradigms seemingly established in W. Europe and the US, my guess is that the Omicron wave will last approximately 8 weeks and then begin to ebb, so I'm assuming that the more draconian restrictions will be imposed for approximately the same amount of time.

There's no good news on the near horizon for those hoping to visit anytime in the near future and my best guess remains that there's no chance of this place opening again until well into the second half of the year.

GE.

[Sammon]

Its the opposite in Phils. Most girls will bring a friend / cousin / neighbor. She might bring one even if you tell her not to. The good news is that they will probably want to meet at McDonalds or JollieBee, and your total cost for all 3 meals will be $10 or less. She is sussing you out. Pinay need the approval of their friends before meeting a second time. Be a gent around the tag-along friend, it will get you a second date. Pinay shed their panties quickly when they are comfortable with you. Others weigh in please.It happened to me one time. This young 18 year old pretty girl wanted us to meet at Robinson. When I went to meet she had her cousin with her. We had dinner together. I was expecting them to walk away but the girl decided to come with me. She asked if her cousin can come and stay in the room. It is a no no in my book unless the other girl is the active participant. Afterwards we had a great time together only to find out in the morning her cousin spent the whole night at 7-11 on Mabini. I felt bad and gave extra money. After couple of days the girl called me and said both she and her cousin want to stay with me and we all had great times together for couple of days not only in bed but going out to malls and movies and dinner.

Unless the girl has been with a foreigner before they get scared. This is most the reason they bring along a friend or relative. If the whole clan shows up you better bail. They are looking for free meal like I did one time at mall of Asia.

[DzikaBomba]

The Curfew was lifted, but the Liquor ban stays until June 30.

That's really hardcore! 6 Months Liquor ban. Enjoy. Its much more fun in Davao haha!

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1165297

[Goferring]

The Curfew was lifted, but the Liquor ban stays until June 30.

That's really hardcore! 6 Months Liquor ban. Enjoy. Its much more fun in Davao haha!

https://www.pna.gov.ph/articles/1165297Are visitors to condos and the like still banned?

[JonesLover]

Hello,

I was thinking to rent an apartment in coastal area of Davao in front of Samal island. I mean not far from Samal Ferry Wharf. Do you know if it is a safe and nice area? Are there some nice beaches in that coastal area of Davao? I thank you.

[Sam 14]

Hello,

I was thinking to rent an apartment in coastal area of Davao in front of Samal island. I mean not far from Samal Ferry Wharf. Do you know if it is a safe and nice area? Are there some nice beaches in that coastal area of Davao? I thank you.Ola Jonsey.

These are just my perceptions obviously. I'm not trying to talk you out of it, it might be awesome for you. But I'll just try to help you play the tape through. I'm no expert but I've been around there many many times, but not since the birth of the Bio-security Age a couple years ago.

This area isn't the worst place in the Philippines to stay but let's examine why you would want to. There was a highly esteemed board member that has forgotten more about Davao than I will never know, and he stayed in this area the last time I saw him in Davao. I suppose because he wanted easy access to Samal.

I lived in Davao for about seven years, and the biggest problem I ever had was accessing nice beach. Every apartment I ever had I could look out my window and see Samal. My last place was ridiculous, I was on the 19th floor and had 180 sea view. I could see the sand at Kaputian, and the beautiful strip of sand beach at Isla Bonita, Talikud. Probably the most beautiful strip of white sand I've seen in the Philippines. My girlfriend would say "look daddy, it's low tide". You could tell by how much white was visible. If I had a powered hang glider or a helicopter I could be there in 10 minutes. Or even a speedboat. I thought about buying one of them local-type boats and keeping it on the river, or rigging up a bamboo raft and powering it with my motobike using a paddle tire. The only other way to get to Kaputian / Talikud from downtown is overland. First you have to get to the area you are talking about, all the way to the north, and that can be a nightmare with the usual traffic. Then you have to cross the channel on a barge, then traverse Samal all the way back to the south, just to get to what I can see out my window. I also thought about renting another place on the island, but that runs up the budget.

So back to your area. Most of the shit (literally) in the horrible water along the Davao coast comes out of the Davao River. So if the wind is north, like it is half the year (from the north), that area you are talking about, you could theoretically go in the water. I have done it. You can find Davao Beach Club on the map, and all around that Sasa area there are a bunch of so-called resorts. But it's really just a rocky beach with no sand and no water. (Unless it's high tide).

So. . Those places are locals only. A few families in the rock huts singing vidioke, and eating food they brought from their house. (Bring your ball pen, you might see something you like). If you want to find any better beach, now you have to get on that barge. That might not be too much of a hassle, and it dumps you off at Campland. But you might want to look at a satellite map of Campland. The beach is about 100 m long and it's like a containment area, and it might not be more than 4 feet deep. You can make your way over to Paradise. But brace yourself. Going there once actually caused me to leave the Philippines. Haha. I think it was the first time I went. They have their own boats, you can look it up and find where they shuttle from in Sasa. I get there, and there's no water. (Well, it's 100 m away and 1 foot deep). The guy says "Sir. 3 o'clock the water will be back". Haha. I swear, I'm not fucking with you. It's mostly broken dead coral (dynamite fishing, and anchor drag) with some sand. There's jetties all over to hold the sand. And a buoy line a hundred meters or so out to block the debris from washing up.

So anyway, you can explore around that part of Samal, which is about the worst part of the island, but there are some decent places like Blue Jazz. Just check the tide chart first. But how are you going to do that, on a paid tricycle? I'm not trying to talk you out of it, but this is what to expect. There's other parts of the island that are beautiful, and we can get into that, where some better beaches are.

That's if everything is normal. It's kind of fucked up on a good day. But I used to say, the shittyness of it is what keeps all the gringos away. If the place had easy access to clean, white sand beaches and good food, the place would look like fuckin Koh Samui in two years with hordes of falangs and their stupid Heinekens.

But I don't know now. You might not be able to simply jump on the barge whenever you want. Last I heard you needed to pre-arrange a stupid QR code just to get to Campland. And my friend that runs a beautiful AirBnB on the other side of the island (with a bunch of hot bikini girls running around) still requires a QR code to get there just as of last week.

Back on the Sasa side, somewhere around where the two highways merge together, there was a new complex with a restaurant or two that just opened. And there were some high-rises going up that looked like condos. I hope you don't like what I call good food, But you might find something I missed or you might not mind taxing into Davao proper. (This is Sasa). And it's not like the area is really happening or anything. The closest mall would be SM Lanang, and out of all the malls in the city that's the furthest one out. Over the years the city got bigger and spread out that way, but the center of the universe is still around Giasano in Bajada, and San Pedro. Bon Appetit, one of the handful of good places to eat is in Bajada, if it's even open. GE would be the one to know to what extent the good places are running, if at all still.

I don't know if that helps, but you might not want to book an apartment for a whole month in Sasa before having a look. May want to stay somewhere closer to Bajada for a few nights and have a look around first. You might be taxing from one side of town to the other anyway. See what it's like even getting around. On the other hand, the relative seclusion up in Sasa might work for you. Another thing to keep in mind is where are your friends coming from? Theyre flaky anyway, the extra distance might make it even worse if they are not from that side. But who knows, your mileage will vary. A lot of them live up that way also.

I have already played the tape through. That whole mask, face shield, 30% capacity, tracking tracing apps, QR bullshit is too much for me. Thats not the world I live in. I love the place and want to go back, but for now there's more room (and girls) for you guys that are able to handle it.

[Bosshog2]

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[Sugoi]

I haven't been active here for years but will have a quick Davao this weekend. A friend recommended staying at Seda. Dusit has also been recommended.

Is there enough near there or is there a better location to stay?

[Goferring]

I haven't been active here for years but will have a quick Davao this weekend. A friend recommended staying at Seda. Dusit has also been recommended.

Is there enough near there or is there a better location to stay?I always stay near people's park as there is lots to see, eat and do within walking distance and many landmarks that are easy for the girls to find. Lots of street walkers at night too but you would be scraping the bottom of the barrel to try them.

Leticia is 3 star at best. Very basic but comfortable. Check if rooms are actually available yet. Note there are 3 Leticias in town so make sure you are checking the right one.

Avida has rooms / condo of all standards on Airbnb.

It will be good to see a recent update post here.

Enjoy. G.

[Sugoi]

I always stay near people's park as there is lots to see, eat and do within walking distance and many landmarks that are easy for the girls to find. Lots of street walkers at night too but you would be scraping the bottom of the barrel to try them.

Leticia is 3 star at best. Very basic but comfortable. Check if rooms are actually available yet. Note there are 3 Leticias in town so make sure you are checking the right one.

Avida has rooms / condo of all standards on Airbnb.

It will be good to see a recent update post here.

Enjoy. G.Unfortunately I have to postpone the trip. Hopefully I can reschedule soon.

[SteelBaton]

Ola Jonsey.
.Good tips on the beach. But, the best of your post are the photos - that girl's body is amazing! Where did you find her? MILF or not? Looks like not.

[CarlosDanger]

Hi,

Just wondering if Hot legs reopened after the Covid madness?

Or such bikini bars still closed in Davao?

[CarlosDanger]

Hi,

Just wondering if Hot legs reopened after the Covid madness?

Or such bikini bars still closed in Davao?So I'm going to answer my own question, the only open bikini bar that I saw was the main hot legs in San Pedro street, the rest of hotlegs / bikini bars were closed, though their signs were still there and the girls in San Pedro hotlegs told me they predict them to reopen next year. Overall the downtown P4P scene is much less than what it used to be pre-covid. I know it's not like it was Pattaya or Angeles, but there was some action. Now the hotlegs San Pedro (the only open bikini bar) was almost empty on a Friday night!

[Sam 14]

Just some rambling thoughts that I thought I'the share as I lay into a Cherry cheesecake at the new restaurant, The William. It's pretty good but the cheesecake a few doors up at De Bon de Koe is better, but they're out of stock for now. 🤷8205;9792;65039; TIP (this is Philippines).

Anyhow, looking back on the eight years I've lived here pre Covid, I can say a key to success here would be to have a good fixer. I know, some will say fuck you, you're full of shit and you're an idiot. . The beauty of the Philippines is you don't have these bullshit pimps; Middle man scammers wrecking the place and ripping you off. That's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about a chick that's connected with Ascension College students. Or Ateneo. Or Holy Cross. Or University of Mindanao. Or any of the 40+ others.

I did a lot of work on my own without any help. I had well over 1000 phone numbers. At one point I had 645 new messages on my phone from different numbers that I didn't even bother to open or return. I was an approaching motherfucker. I'm not afraid to talk to chicks, and give them my number. I had my stations set up all over town in key locations where you're swarmed in gaggles of hot young girls. I'the hit up sales ladies in every mall. I'the hussle the streets of Uyangaren. I'the post up on the little street with all the shops and eateries outside the entrance of UM. I'the play the dating site from time to time. I set personal records, all on my own. I had up to five hot girls all on the perch at once in the rotation. My girlfriend was two Hot Sisters. I had five chicks in the same family, two at once most of the time. I'the trawl the squats at all times of day and night. One of my hottest girls, I met when she walking along an open sewage canal.

But I am going to say something that runs contrary to popular belief.

Your average young Filipina is not that easy to get. This idea that they drop their panties in two minutes flat just isn't so. Sure, a lot of them do. But the ones I'm looking at are these beautiful young college students. They got these "fuck me" eyes and they're flirty. I'll wave, and theyll go stomp their feet and giggle and hi5 each other. But transferring that into a shag is another story. I'm willing to say (with a slight exaggeration) that most of these chicks would rather starve to death than fuck an old gringo for money. They might think you're gwapo and actually dream about having a good hearted foreigner lover that loves her and takes care of her. But actually getting that hot pussy wrapped around your chin is more about fantasy than reality for most of them.

You can start texting with them and the conversation almost always goes exact same. I got to where I could answer the next question before they asked it. Where are you from? How longlong you stay in the Pilipines? Can you speak in Visaya? You have family? Why you're not married? Blah blah blah blah blah. But when it comes time to pop the big question "let's meet", they're usually busy washing their clothes. Or they don't have vacant day. Or they're ultimately busy "focusing on their studies". I've literally had two back to back conversations with 2 insane smokers I met on the same day before, and the conversations went exactly the same, almost Word for Word. My friend once called it (these are not my words) he calls it "texting with retards". I read on these pages once someone wrote "get ready to start texting more than you ever imagined possible in your life". I don't know how many times I've met Hot girls in provinces. Bislig. Kidapawan. Butuan. Generally speaking, you can text until the cows come home. But as long as I am within striking distance, they're busy focusing on something other than dropping their panties on my floor. The minute I'm gone, and a safe distance away like on another island, they're ready to fire it up.

I'm talking about 18-20 yr range chicks that have never talked to a foreigner before. Their apprehension comes from a few general things: They're simply scared; they're afraid their English isn't good, they're going to have nose bleed; they're afraid your dick is too big. Their intuition is telling them do it. Go make out with this bad-ass foreigner, just do it and get it over with. But the moment it comes time to actually take a bath, get ready, and get on the Jeep to go meet, they can't bring themself to do it. That's why it's raining where they are, but barely a cloud in the sky where you are.

You'll even see this phenomenon on dating sites allot of times if she don't have already experience with foreigner.

Some of this stuff is controversial, and everyone's mileage will vary. But this is just my experience, and I hope it helps explain to newbs or guys that haven't been here yet weird actions you'll likely see.

This is why I say if you just want to shag, the ultimate goal is to get a good fixer, in my opinion. Years ago a handful of hookers used to stand outside Victoria mall on JP Laurel. I got the number of this gal that was not good looking at all. She was actually kind of hideous. But I asked her to help me and told her what I was looking for. More often than not what she came up with was not what I described. But nevertheless, she always came up with something. And more often than not it was good. She'the give me the girl's age and description via text and affectionately call her a "break in" meaning it's her first time with a foreigner. I don't know how many great girls this chick hooked me up with. But I would just go to this little shack she was staying at with her baby, and the girl would be sitting there waiting. If we liked each other, off we went. If I didn't like it, no harm done. The girl didn't have anything better to do anyway. They both get a little tip for their time


Good tips on the beach. But, the best of your post are the photos - that girl's body is amazing! Where did you find her? MILF or not? Looks like not..

Thanks for the compliment SB, and sorry late reply. OK, I'll explain. That's my girlfriend. What happened is this: I like having a girlfriend, and I actually prefer a relationship. That's because if I can get my paws on something as hot as I have in mind, I want more of it. I want that ass in my face for hours on end. So when I decided to leave home and go live in the Philippines I said I want either " The girl of my dreams", or else a steady stream of hot teenagers. (Above the age of 18 obviously, you freaks). Well, I ended up with the ladder.

What happens when you have 5 chicks is that if you can't keep them all juiced up, and if they suspect you're a butterfly, The hottest ones start falling off the perch. So the Philippines is a testing place to live, to say it politely. And playing the texting game can make you fucking buang. So one day this Filipino Cupid date shows up. Yes, there are good girls on there. I suggest if anyone is looking for a relationship, that's a good site. If a Filipina is truly looking for a loving relationship and she takes the initiative to put up her profile, it's going to be a lot easier that chasing down some college chick at the mall that's afraid of you.

Anyhow, we met across the street of the apartments I was staying. She showed up with a friend and I tried to drag them across the street to my place. They were too afraid to cross the street so I got kind of pissed off and laid 100 pesos on her for the Jeep and walked away. Well, I felt like kind of a dick later because the girl was really nice. It was her first time, she was just scared. So I apologized, and she apologized too. I think I was sick with the Davao Cough, and I wasn't feeling good. So I found out that this chick really cared about me and wanted to take care of me, and shit like that. She wasn't exactly what I had in mind looks wise, which would be more like what you'the find in an Ipanema favela. But she ended up being a real sweetheart. The sex ended up being insane. She would do all the work because she didn't want me to get tired. She said she got good at it because they would watch porn. Word on the street is you have to be good in bed or your boyfriend will dump you. She had been popped by one Filipino kid that got her in a lodge. But then he dumped her because he said she's no good in bed. By then my pimp had retired. And the hottie I met on the open canal was already pregnant. (Not mine, of course). And I was burnt out on the bullshit texting games. So time passed and I got in deeper and deeper. What turns me on about her is that someone got in her ear and told her that I like brown. So she likes getting tan. Imagine that, a Filipina that likes slathering on dark tanning oil and cooking in the sun in a bikini like a Brazilian would. Anyway, that's the story.

Last word I'll add about having a fixer. There was a legendary monger that used to post on this board a lot who lived for a long time in Davao before I ever arrived. This cat was a master, and we became friends. Ultimately, his gig was this:

He had about three good contacts. Hed text up any of them, specify the quantity. It was fucking hilarious, it was like ordering pizza. Hed get a reply with Facebook profiles with millions of pictures.

How to get one of these fixers? First become a master of the trade. Because once you've accomplished getting a prime fixer, you're already a master. I think some of his he met on Cupid. So as you're chatting online you could be honest with what you're looking for. Get to know them first. Be with someone first. That's one of the beauties of Filipinas, which has been written about here allot. They're generally pretty easy to offer up their sisters, friends, cousins, daughters, mothers, etc.

[Albert9989]

Just some rambling thoughts that I thought I'the share as I lay into a Cherry cheesecake at the new restaurant, The William. It's pretty good but the cheesecake a few doors up at De Bon de Koe is better, but they're out of stock for now. 🤷8205;9792;65039; TIP (this is Philippines).

How to get one of these fixers? First become a master of the trade. Because once you've accomplished getting a prime fixer, you're already a master. I think some of his he met on Cupid. So as you're chatting online you could be honest with what you're looking for. Get to know them first. Be with someone first. That's one of the beauties of Filipinas, which has been written about here allot. They're generally pretty easy to offer up their sisters, friends, cousins, daughters, mothers, etc.Whao, very detailed post and interesting also.

I will risk a specific question about these "fixers". Amongst all contacts I have now, I am sure there could be some of them. But. What could be the gift for their service? Maybe it can depends on where they stay, Davao or cebu could be different for sure, but any indication, if possible, will be nice anyway.

[Sam 14]

Whao, very detailed post and interesting also.

I will risk a specific question about these "fixers". Amongst all contacts I have now, I am sure there could be some of them. But. What could be the gift for their service? Maybe it can depends on where they stay, Davao or cebu could be different for sure, but any indication, if possible, will be nice anyway.Thanks man. Well, the gal that was hooking me up was totally broke, and I doubt she was catching many tricks. 10 years ago a couple hundred pesos went a long way. So the students typically got 1000 towards their studies, and my friend got 200. She appreciated that. I'the always load her phone too.

Later when the guy I referred to put me onto his friend, the going rate for her was 500 for a referral. I'the say today 500 would be a fair gift, if it's OK with her. She'll probably say it's up to you, but best to make it clear upfront so she's not expecting more and get disappointed. She's really not doing much except trusting you to not fuck over her friend, hence her losing face. Obviously the nicer you are to her, the more motivated she'll be to help you.

Sure, why not? Ask everyone of them you've ever shagged. Hey, do you have any friends please? Here's what I like.. . If you help me, I'll make it worth your time and I promise I'll be good to your friend.

[Albert9989]

Thanks man. Well, the gal that was hooking me up was totally broke, and I doubt she was catching many tricks. 10 years ago a couple hundred pesos went a long way. So the students typically got 1000 towards their studies, and my friend got 200. She appreciated that. I'the always load her phone too.

Later when the guy I referred to put me onto his friend, the going rate for her was 500 for a referral. I'the say today 500 would be a fair gift, if it's OK with her. She'll probably say it's up to you, but best to make it clear upfront so she's not expecting more and get disappointed. She's really not doing much except trusting you to not fuck over her friend, hence her losing face. Obviously the nicer you are to her, the more motivated she'll be to help you.

Sure, why not? Ask everyone of them you've ever shagged. Hey, do you have any friends please? Here's what I like.. . If you help me, I'll make it worth your time and I promise I'll be good to your friend.Thanks a lot for all these additional details!

[ModernGuyz1]

Hey,

First time reporting. Davao 8 days.

First Davao is still very strict masks etc compared to rest of Philippines. Met a few girls dating, found mine to very conservative. Good spot for meeting chick senioritas, I swear most people from Davao don't even know this place. Other clubs close at 1 , this place 4 ish. Got my balls grabbed here first night, LOL 2 girls dancing and kissing chatting to me aand some random guy I met. I'm a bit slow but the Filipino was setting us up. Anyway, girls start kissing each other we get surrounded by other Filipinos pushing in and we lose girls. First night grrrrr.

Staying casa letica (over priced shithole) , seems girl friendly. Stayed avida (stunning apt) and super strict, had date with girl (wearing Sunday clothes) at 6 pm guard gets her passport starts checking it. Calling out passport to be confirmed. Took 10- 15 minutes and only allowed cause owner agreed.

Had chance with other girl, but not tricking her. She's looking long term.

Got freebie back to casa letica from the other night club at over I think its gasino mall. Well I gave her 2 k she didn't ask taxi. Playing a lot of poker metro, there's some street walkers. One older woman trying to set me up with 2 7's. LOL I'm broke from poker. All the others were ugly granny's.

Finding somewhere to stay here is difficult.

[Goferring]

Staying casa letica (over priced shithole) , seems girl friendly. Stayed avida (stunning apt) and super strict, had date with girl (wearing Sunday clothes) at 6 pm guard gets her passport starts checking it. Calling out passport to be confirmed. Took 10- 15 minutes and only allowed cause owner agreed.
Can you expand in how good / bad you found the Avida?? I've often considered staying there for longer trips. General conditions? Visitors? Good location? That sort of thing??

The Leticia opposite People's Park is starting to get old but is definitely girl friendly. All of my Davao reports here were from there. It's a good location with lots of food, malls, areas of interest within walking distance. Note that there are 3 Leticia's in town but the other two are in totally different areas and business centers.

Enjoy. G.

[Goferring]

The Leticia opposite People's Park is starting to get old but is definitely girl friendly. All of my Davao reports here were from there. It's a good location with lots of food, malls, areas of interest within walking distance. Note that there are 3 Leticia's in town but the other two are in totally different areas and business centers.

Enjoy. G.I should have also added that it's super convenient for meeting girls. Everyone knows where People's Park is and it makes a convenient excuse to tell parents etc. Being so close, it's easy to have the girls go there then just walk across to meet them when they arrive. No waiting around, no shows etc.

Enjoy. G.

[Sam 14]

Can you expand in how good / bad you found the Avida?? I've often considered staying there for longer trips. General conditions? Visitors? Good location? That sort of thing??
.Avida is a good place to stay man but yeah, they are a bit strict. I registered my girlfriend as my guest and she can come and go as she pleases. (As I please, rather). She's got a valid ID. I'm not questioning the other poster's experience but it seems to me that a national ID or a postal ID would be fine. Most Filipinas don't have a passport because you need about a dozen requirements to get one which all cost a little bit of money, and each step has 15 sub steps, and each of those steps have a couple more steps.

Try to get a high floor with a view. I've stayed in building one facing south on the 19th floor and I've stayed in building two facing Samal and to the north on the top floor. Clean rooms, good workbench (bed). The pool is no good because it's on about the fourth floor and it's mostly in the shade. And there might be limits to the times of use, Magallanes Residence has a better pool. But a lot of the rooms are seriously rundown, and you might get a barking dog or two below.

The location of Avida is good (CM Recto). It's between Gmall (Gaisano) and San Pedro Plaza, where tons of hot young girls conjugate and take selfies. Near the busy downtown too. Also it's close to De Bon de Koe, maybe the only good restaurant left in town. The permanent closing of Bon Apptit thanks to Covid was the worst tragedy to ever hit this town in my opinion.

[Sam 14]

By the way, someone mentioned obedience muzzles. Everyone is wearing them but they're not enforced. The law was lifted some time ago. None of the guards in any of the malls say a word, which kind of surprised me. You see a few smiling faces but it's maybe 1%.

[WestCoast1]

By the way, someone mentioned obedience muzzles. Everyone is wearing them but they're not enforced. The law was lifted some time ago. None of the guards in any of the malls say a word, which kind of surprised me. You see a few smiling faces but it's maybe 1%.In a different province here, but similar. Mask mandated lifted by the government 2 months ago, and by malls 4-6 weeks ago. Still 95% (or more) in the malls have masks on. Guards say nothing when I walk in without my mask (nobody says anything). My experience in NCR was the same. Only AC was the outlier.

[WestCoast1]

Avida is a good place to stay man but yeah, they are a bit strict. I registered my girlfriend as my guest and she can come and go as she pleases. (As I please, rather). Sam, what was the Avida procedure for bringing in other, outside guests?

[Sam 14]

Sam, what was the Avida procedure for bringing in other, outside guests?Dunno amigo. I screwed myself so hard, I left my guard down so long that my best one slipped into serious GF status. This is what inspired my recent Get a Pimp post. Haha. Soon as I figure out how to get my paws on some of this hot stuff I'm seeing everywhere, I'll report back on how easy or not it is getting her past the front desk. (There's also an entry gate they set up in front with a guard you need to pass first, rather than walking in where the cars come in). So there's theoretically two checkpoints.

I'd be less concerned about getting her in than I would be about the bamboo telegraph. Last place I stayed, they fired every one of the guards. In fact I think they changed the guard company because they couldn't keep their mouths shut. I think some of them were even putting the make on some of the guests coming through.

[GoodEnough]

In a different province here, but similar. Mask mandated lifted by the government 2 months ago, and by malls 4-6 weeks ago. Still 95% (or more) in the malls have masks on. Guards say nothing when I walk in without my mask (nobody says anything). My experience in NCR was the same. Only AC was the outlier.In my case, I forgot to wear a mask in a large mall here and paid the consequences as. I developed Covid about four days later. I've been vaxxed four tines, and the case wasn't severe but it did reinforce my determination to wear a mask when entering public spaces. I thinks it's just silly not to do so and, as you said, here in Davao, most people are masked in public places.

GE.

[Sam 14]

. . . I developed Covid about four days later. I've been vaxxed four tines, and the case wasn't severe but it did reinforce my determination to wear a mask when entering public spaces. I thinks it's just silly not to do so . . .Hello GE, I'm sorry to hear you got sick, and I'm glad it wasn't severe. Your case is similar to a friend of mine who I work with and live with. He got four shots, and he got Covid twice. Every one of the approx 15 that I (kindof) work with (sometimes) got at least two shots, and every one of them got Covid at least once. The exceptions were the three of us that didn't get any shots, and none of us got Covid. I was in three countries at the height of it, including Brazil when they were having a big outbreak. I was in crowded clubs, subways, and even kissed a couple girls (at once). I don't know if that means anything or if there's any correlation. And I hope I don't start a debate here because this is the wrong place.

But it seems to me like if these so-called health authorities actually cared about health, there would be at least some mention of trying to strengthen the natural born immune system. I've been taking simple supplements anyway for decades, and seem to avoid the flu and stuff others around me get. By the way, I’m not “anti-vaccine“. I like having my traditional type of yellow fever vaccine, where they take a small part of the virus and put it in you, because I can go to Africa and be immune from yellow fever, and not bring it back to another country.

[WestCoast1]

Dunno amigo. I screwed myself so hard, I left my guard down so long that my best one slipped into serious GF status. That's not such a bad thing if you're getting laid regular by a girl who does *not* drive you crazy.


I'll report back on how easy or not it is getting her past the front desk. (There's also an entry gate they set up in front with a guard you need to pass first, rather than walking in where the cars come in). So there's theoretically two checkpoints.A new residence here has been rising before Covid. Units are being turned over to owners. Evidence of such is the large increase in airbnb listings coming online for this residence in the past few weeks. I made an appointment with one owner to see his unit a few weeks ago*. There is a guard shack at the street entrance. I told the owner that my girlfriend and I would be there at 2 pm. At the appointed time we arrived to face the guard. The owner told me previously to meet him in the lobby. The guard refused entry when I showed him the airbnb message from owner James. I msg'd James to come outside to the guard shack and meet us. James: "Tell the guard that I said to let you pass". The guard refused. The guard used my phone to directly msg James. We were 30 meters from the lobby. An argument erupted in airbnb msgs between them. Finally James showed at the guard shack to escort us inside. Then the guard wanted to see my ID and vax card. Why didn't he ask for that in advance? And why didn't James tell me that it was needed? I showed them, but the guard would not allow my girl entry as she did not have her vax card with her. This was becoming an ordeal. Finally I got inside with James and saw the unit.

* I decided not to rent the unit. In the unit listing, it was describes as having 100 mbps Internet. Many of the airbnb listings for this new residence claimed the same. However rumor was that the brand new building had not been kitted for any type of HSI (unheard of today). Upon arrival I noticed a Smart Home LTE (sim card) unit. I asked the owner to connect my phone to his wifi. "I don't know how". I looked on the router, found the SSID and PW, and connected. Download tests were under 1 mpbs. I asked James of the discrepancy, 1 vs the advertised 100 mbps. "I don't know. This is not my home". Wait, you said you are the owner. "I am. I have several units here. But nobody lives here before". But you listed the unit as 100 mbps. "No, we pay someone to write things for us. We paid to have the units set up with everything from furniture to kitchenware". So its all a lie? Or you are unsure what is in written in the listing? "Um. Maybe. I have other units available. You want to see them?" Do they all have the same LTE modem? "I don't know". The answer to several of my other questions had the same answer: Is the hot water heater in the shower functioning? "I don't know". Where on the floor is the trash closet? "I am not sure of that". Can you demonstrate the TV remote control? "I don't know how to do that". Is it an Internet TV, or else is it connected to a cable system? "I am not sure". Can you demonstrate the aircon remote control? "No, I don't know it". Great!

Aside: A number of airbnb condo units have gone to NO WRITTEN DESCRIPTION. I would guess that the owner / caretaker became tired of guests complaining that the unit was not as advertised (forcing the owner to partially refund the stay). Better to have no description of a crappy place.


I'd be less concerned about getting her in than I would be about the bamboo telegraph. Last place I stayed, they fired every one of the guards. In fact I think they changed the guard company because they couldn't keep their mouths shut. I think some of them were even putting the make on some of the guests coming through.Several of my go-to hotels over the years let me down when a guard would gossip to my girls about me. My girls routinely told me what this or that guard said. Often the guard let slip: "That guy has many girls". I can't think of any good single reason for a guard to say that. Guards are fired for doing it. Normally I wouldn't let slip the hotel name, but for one of them I will, as the guards were egregious for un-safe practices at the time. It was about 2010, at Bayview Park hotel. One afternoon there was a knock on my door. Opening the door there was a PYT who told me that she got my room number from another girl and she wanted some ST biz right then. I asked how she got past the door guard. "I give 50 pesos to him". That's ALL? How did you get up in the elevator? "I walked up the back stairs". 9 floors? "Yes". You have been roaming the hotel then. "Yes". The following day another PYT did the same thing, offering the guard p50 to come inside.

[Goferring]

Aside: A number of airbnb condo units have gone to NO WRITTEN DESCRIPTION. I would guess that the owner / caretaker became tired of guests complaining that the unit was not as advertised Not sure if it's only post Covid, but I've also noticed that Agoda is now listing Reviews by rating, not date, with all "Exceptional" coming first. So a hotel that's been open for years but did no maintenance for the last 3 years and has untrained staff will have a 8 rating with all the old positive reviews listed first. Current post COVID reviews will be buried way down the list.

[FrankWake]

Hey guys, I just finished writing field reports in Manila and Makati. I spent a few months in Davao and Davao del Sur in September, October and November last year. I'll be going back there in August but I thought I'the share some experiences here.

So I had basically no punting experience in Davao. In 2019 I spent a good 2 hours changing taxis, walking to gogo bars but not liking anything I saw. I like sexy spinners and the street girls were either "300 lang (free aids included) or closer to my weight, which is bawal. Eventually the taxi pulled over, started chatting with a gay pimp who brought me a couple girls. I kept in contact with one of them, Regine, over the years so she was my first point of contact.

Most of my luck was in Toril, in the southern part of Davao. It was almost exclusively contacts through friends. Regine introduced me to other girls and I eventually cut her out. Regine was a cute spinner that got pregnant by her bum boyfriend and had twins. Her body never returned and frankly she wasn't good in bed when she was cute, let alone after years of baby damage and eating too much rice. The thing with these Toril girls is that they're all flat broke and whine a lot about money. She had a friend Jennifur who was my new contact, but she would text me several times during the week asking when I would come back to Toril. Made it difficult when I was trying to date locals and kept having my phone blow up.

There's another thing with the attitude of these girls that I find totally different from Manila. The manila escorts are doing it to buy make up, clothes, purses, a phone, etc no matter what they tell you. I found that these Toril girls, they were doing it so they could just have spending cash. Jennifur would usually bring me at least 2 other girls, I would pay 1. 5 k each and they would all be so happy with that. Of course 2 days later they're broke again and whining. But I thought it was interesting how they would prefer to share the wealth with their friends rather than try to shack up with me all night to get that money out of me.

But out of that desperation came the ugliness. One day Jennifur started whining and begging for 2 k, promising on her life she would pay me back the following day. I've heard this song and dance before a million times so I ignored her. She then told me some stupid story about how one of the girls I was with had been diagnosed with aids and that the police were sniffing around, trying to figure out where it originated from. I knew the story was bogus but until I had the negative result in my hands I was a bit nervous.

After I cut her and her friends out of my life, I found myself in Davao on a Sunday. I walked around but couldn't find anything anywhere. I walked by a few bars that looked like gogos that got shut down. Reckoning either the plague or the former president's daughter had something to do with that. I got in a pedicab and asked the driver where were the girls. He told me banko central. I had had a friend drive me there once and we were disgusted by the quality. The driver told me sometimes good, sometimes bad. So I figured what the hell.

Well we pull up and I see this spinner type in a decent quality dress. Wearing a mask of course. But she walks up, and her friend does all the talking. 1. 5 k. Wants 500 now for "down payment". I never give money before service, but it was already 11 pm and so I took a gamble. I hand her the 500 who gives it to her friend and she gets in the pedicab with me. As we are riding, I tell my new girl that I'the like to go get beer and food first before hitting the sack. She agrees and gives direction to the cabby. We end up at a bar with a live band that is decently lively for a Sunday.

The activity was great. We did it all night. She tells me she works as a call center agent and is usually up late. She tells me that she's not doing this on the side for money, it's more of a coping mechanism from some bad break up she had. She was educated, had a master's in marketing, and really shouldn't have been doing that job. Well anyways, she stayed all night and we did it a few times in the morning so I gave her 3 k. She was pretty enough to charge that in the first place. I did avail her services the next weekend but then I found myself planning a future with her and had to cut ties. Don't marry the working hands gents.

As for the province, I was in Digos City and Gensan as well. In Digos, all the girly bars are near the bus stop. There's about 3 or 4. One of them has a stage, those girls want 4-5 k a go which is absolutely ridiculous. In Manila they would be lucky to get half of that. I did take one for 4 k when I was absolutely plastered, and on a side note she was missing a lung so when she went on top I thought she was going to die, literally. There were a couple more that had beds inside. Those girls wanted 1. 5 k a go. And the last bar I went to, Weng's I think it was called, the girls would beg me to buy lady drinks and never leave me alone. It got a bit annoying to be honest. 250 a lady drink adds up, and the fat mama san always wanted a tip every round. If you're expecting change, you need to break it down for these people or they'll pocket it all. The other problem with Weng's is that these girls all want to go with the one you choose. "Body guard" they would say. Some of them came to my room alone but a few times I ended up with 3 in my room, but I only did one of them. They wanted 3 k each for the deed. Some of those girls, if they were in manila could expect more and others would warrant far less. I did get the phone number of basically every one of the girls I banged from there, and without fail they would whine and ask to meet up for money. At least they were offering themselves instead of hand outs.

As for Gen San, well, I hit up 3 go go bars there, and 2 were absolute garbage. Girls bigger than me begging me to buy them beer. I did go to one near SM City that has some pretty girls. I found one to my taste but she claimed it was her time of the month. - . She was good company until she got drunk and kept asking me to buy her friends drinks. *sigh* .

Both nights in Gen San, I hopped in a pedi cab and asked them to bring me a girl. The first time the driver pulled over, started talking to another pedi cab driver, then told me they would be back. I sat there waiting wondering if the cops were coming back and like 5 minutes later they brought me hot 20 year old spinner. 3 k at 1 am sounded like a deal to me. A similar thing happened the next day, though not as hot.

Last thing I want to mention is that I had zero luck with Tinder and facebook. I messaged all the "so and so walker" girls I found and almost none of them replied. It could be because I had an obviously fake account but either way, no activity. One girl asked me for a "pre walk" or something. The other thing that happened is they replied like 5 days later.

So the take aways from all this, connections are king in the south and most of the pimps are gay guys. Any time you get your haircut by a gay guy, ask him if he knows any girls, he'll most certainly pimp out his neighbour / co worker / cousin for you. Davao only has activity in Toril, Banko Central and Calinan. I have a facebook friend who works at a bar in Calinan and keeps inviting me. Separate sim cards for dating and punting gents. Don't let a hooker blow up your personal phone and rat you out. And taxi / pedicab drivers are also good sources. They usually know where to go.

I probably could have written a bloody novel on my entire adventures in the south, but thought to not spam the post. I would be happy to elaborate on anything or answer any questions. I'll be back there late August until October so look forward to reports then, eh? Thanks for reading!

[WestCoast1]

The thing with these Toril girls is that they're all flat broke and whine a lot about money. Typical of Filipina over the entire country, including chatting them from a dating site before you've even come to Phils to meet them.


She had a friend Jennifur who was my new contact, but she would text me several times during the week asking when I would come back to Toril. Made it difficult when I was trying to date locals and kept having my phone blow up.There is a 'Silent' and 'Do Not Disturb' function in your cell phone settings that will neutralize any notifications. And a power button. Pinay are crazy persistent.


I found that these Toril girls, they were doing it so they could just have spending cash. Jennifur would usually bring me at least 2 other girls, I would pay 1. 5 k each and they would all be so happy with that. Of course 2 days later they're broke again and whining. But I thought it was interesting how they would prefer to share the wealth with their friends rather than try to shack up with me all night to get that money out of me.Another pinay hallmark. No cash (or food, or makeup, or booze, or any other resource that can be shared among her family, friends, or neighbors) lasts more than a few days.

[Squall]

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Thank you very much for your fascinating report, read it with great enjoyment!

Just realized that it had been pretty much exactly ten years since I was last in Davao, time flies, and not really in a good way. Will try to revisit in the end of this year, I think.

One question:

Last time I was over there I stayed in Marco Polo, a great and girl friendly stay back then, still closed after the pandemic though. Can you tell me if you stayed in a hotel or Airbnb and what your experiences with your accomodations were?

Because while my Airbnb stay in Cebu (also a while ago, eight. Years, I think). Was quite enjoyable, I have at least heard that there were problems with bringing girls over into Airbnbs in Davao recently.

Thank you in advance for a response and again my gratitude for the great Report!

[Goferring]

Can you tell me if you stayed in a hotel or Airbnb and what your experiences with your accomodations were?

I have at least heard that there were problems with bringing girls over into Airbnbs in Davao recently.

Thank you in advance for a response and again my gratitude for the great Report!About 12 months ago, I was told by a few girls that they would not be allowed into Avida Residences (near People's Park) late at night. I think they said that 9 pm was the cut off for visitors to enter. Before that, they could stay all night, but after, they wouldn't be allowed to enter at all. Sorry I don't know if it's still in place.

[Squall]

About 12 months ago, I was told by a few girls that they would not be allowed into Avida Residences (near People's Park) late at night. I think they said that 9 pm was the cut off for visitors to enter. Before that, they could stay all night, but after, they wouldn't be allowed to enter at all. Sorry I don't know if it's still in place.I thank you for the information. Would bringing multiple girls (at different days) be a problem there?

Because an acquaintance of mine I have the aforementioned information from stayed in one of the Abreeza towers about three months ago, and while he did not mention the 9 pm thing, he did say that although he was able to register and take a girl (a semi regular of his) upstairs without much problems (apparently the registration process for her was somewhat longer than he was used to, with her ID being very carefully checked), taking a second girl upstairs a couple of days later (a date from FilipinoCupid) suddenly turned out to be a problem. To the point of the guard downstairs insisting on my acquaintance having to call the Airbnb owner and only afterwards doing an ID check and allowing the girl entrance. While it worked out in the end, he mentioned that the Airbnb owner was very reluctant and it was a novel and strange experience for my acquaintance in the Philippines. Especially since I know him well enough to be reasonably sure of his respectful and calm conduct and well-dressed attire, he told me that the girl was elegantly clothed as well. He did not risk to try and bring a third girl with him there.

[Goferring]

I thank you for the information. Would bringing multiple girls (at different days) be a problem there?
I think you would be ok but who knows?? Actual outcomes can depend on who's on the door, who's having a bad day, your relationship with security etc as much as formal rules.

Another factor is how the girl looks. If she screams 19 yo hooker, then it can be much harder for her than a librarian in disguise.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

I thank you for the information. Would bringing multiple girls (at different days) be a problem there?


I think you would be ok but who knows?? Actual outcomes can depend on who's on the door, who's having a bad day, your relationship with security etc as much as formal rules.

Another factor is how the girl looks. If she screams 19 yo hooker, then it can be much harder for her than a librarian in disguise.Or, Squall can skip all of that, and call the residence Admin in advance, and just ask what current policy is. Often just asking the airbnb owner / host the policy is a big help. However I have found several of them are completely wrong about the building's Admin policy is. Well, they are either wrong, or they are telling you what *they* want you to think the residence policy is. Two examples:

1) After renting online with airbnb and then arriving at the residence, the owner took me upstairs to show me the unit. I had already sent the owner my ID / vax cards, and those of one of my regular gals in the area (the one who spends the most time with me) as my GF. I asked, point blank, if I could bring my other friends in for lunch or such. "No sir. Just you and your girlfriend. Registered guests only. Its the building policy with the guards. Its covid sir. You can check the guards". This was late last year. I hadn't seen any covid notices in the lobby or front desk, but I figured that I should check with admin. I asked first the guards at the front door: "You can bring in guests anytime. Just they will sign in and give an ID. No ID, no entry". I walked into the Admin office and got the same response. The owner appeared simply incorrect, but that was wrong. The owner lives in the building a few floors below my rented unit. I was entering one day thru the lobby with the latest girl du jur, and the owner was walking out. It was clear to her that I was getting on the elevator with a girl who was not my GF. I started getting txt msgs from her asking who is that girl, no unregistered guests, the guards were upset, and so on. It was all a smoke-screen. She just didn't want any unregistered guests. Unfortunately she hadn't stated that in her airbnb description, so I was able to ignore that.

2) The opposite instance. An owner tells me that I just need to have any guest give an ID and register with the guard. Upon entry, the guards and front desk insist: "No unregistered guests. You register this girl with the owner and get her a key-card for entry sir. Already you have other girl registered. Only 2 registered guests per studio unit. Not more". The owner had simply been wrong.

The good news, Squall, is that few if any places are left still playing this game. If they do insist that you can't bring in additional guests, its possibly a family-oriented place and they don't want h**kers marching in / out. Criminy, does Westy live there? Call first and find the real policy of the building. Then write us a nice descriptive report of your experience there.

[Goferring]

Or, Squall can skip all of that, and call the residence Admin in advance, and just ask what current policy is. Shit, too easy. I guess that's why you get paid the big bucks. 😜.

I still wouldn't discount the ability to talk yourself into or out of trouble. Especially by her looking the part.

Enjoy. G.

[WestCoast1]

I thank you for the information. Would bringing multiple girls (at different days) be a problem there?


Shit, too easy. I guess that's why you get paid the big bucks. 😜.


Or, Squall can skip all of that, and call the residence Admin in advance, and just ask what current policy is. Often just asking the airbnb owner / host the policy is a big help. However I have found several of them are completely wrong about the building's Admin policy is. Well, they are either wrong, or they are telling you what *they* want you to think the residence policy is. Two examples:I forgot to mention example #3:

You call your residence prior to arrival and they inform you that the residence accepts guests who have a valid ID. Great. You arrive and on your first night you bring in tonight's girl; she gives up her ID with the guard, and you have a wonderful time. The following afternoon you are escorting girl #2 in, and the (different) guard stops you. "No outside guests sir. Its policy". But, but, but I brought a guest in last night! "Sorry po". F*ck! You turn #2 loose and proceed to the Admin office. You ask for JoAnn, who talked to you on the phone and assured you that policy was guest-friendly. But you are speaking to Gemma in the Admin office. Gemma informs you that JoAnn has the day off, and that JoAnn was mistaken about policy. F*ck!

Later the same evening as you are entering your residence, another foreigner in front of you is registering his lady with her ID. You inquire about this with the guard (again, a different shift). "Yes po if the guest will have a valid ID". A complete reversal (again). F*ck! The Admin office is closed for the day. The following morning you buzz into the Admin office and are greeted by JoAnn. You tell her you called to inquire about the guest policy, which at the time was guest friendly; then you tell her what Gemma said. "Wait. Gemma said no guests?" Yes. "Gemma!" Gemma comes out of the back office. The two ladies keep their voices down and have an honest disagreement on what current policy is. They finally agree with Gemma's policy: No guests. Ladies, can you inform the front desk and the guards of what the current policy is? "Yes of course po". Its 10 am*.

Point: The right hand doesn't always know what the left is up to.

*Further, you go out for the day. On your way back in, about 4 pm, you see the same morning's guard. You ask him if Admin or the front desk informed him of the no guest policy. "What? No sir". You get the same response from the front desk. GREAT! Point: The middle hand (s) might not know what the other hands are doing.

Last point: These were covid-era items. Haven't seen these things in at least 10 months. As Squall is heading to Davao, there are numerous other places to stay if he has bad guest info on a specific place.

[Squall]

Thank you all again for the information and help, I am now actually genuinely curious how my experience regarding accommodations will play out.

As already said I expect to be there in the end of this or in the beginning of the next year, I will make sure to post a report here afterwards.

[TjBrazil]

That's not such a bad thing if you're getting laid regular by a girl who does *not* drive you crazy.

A new residence here has been rising before Covid. Units are being turned over to owners. Evidence of such is the large increase in airbnb listings coming online for this residence in the past few weeks. I made an appointment with one owner to see his unit a few weeks ago*. There is a guard shack at the street entrance. I told the owner that my girlfriend and I would be there at 2 pm. At the appointed time we arrived to face the guard. The owner told me previously to meet him in the lobby. The guard refused entry when I showed him the airbnb message from owner James. I msg'd James to come outside to the guard shack and meet us. James: "Tell the guard that I said to let you pass". The guard refused. The guard used my phone to directly msg James. We were 30 meters from the lobby. An argument erupted in airbnb msgs between them. Finally James showed at the guard shack to escort us inside. Then the guard wanted to see my ID and vax card. Why didn't he ask for that in advance? And why didn't James tell me that it was needed? I showed them, but the guard would not allow my girl entry as she did not have her vax card with her. This was becoming an ordeal. Finally I got inside with James and saw the unit.

* I decided not to rent the unit. In the unit listing, it was describes as having 100 mbps Internet. Many of the airbnb listings for this new residence claimed the same. However rumor was that the brand new building had not been kitted for any type of HSI (unheard of today). Upon arrival I noticed a Smart Home LTE (sim card) unit. I asked the owner to connect my phone to his wifi. "I don't know how". I looked on the router, found the SSID and PW, and connected. Download tests were under 1 mpbs. I asked James of the discrepancy, 1 vs the advertised 100 mbps. "I don't know. This is not my home". Wait, you said you are the owner. "I am. I have several units here. But nobody lives here before". But you listed the unit as 100 mbps. "No, we pay someone to write things for us. We paid to have the units set up with everything from furniture to kitchenware". So its all a lie? Or you are unsure what is in written in the listing? "Um. Maybe. I have other units available. You want to see them?" Do they all have the same LTE modem? "I don't know". The answer to several of my other questions had the same answer: Is the hot water heater in the shower functioning? "I don't know". Where on the floor is the trash closet? "I am not sure of that". Can you demonstrate the TV remote control? "I don't know how to do that". Is it an Internet TV, or else is it connected to a cable system? "I am not sure". Can you demonstrate the aircon remote control? "No, I don't know it". Great!

Aside: A number of airbnb condo units have gone to NO WRITTEN DESCRIPTION. I would guess that the owner / caretaker became tired of guests complaining that the unit was not as advertised (forcing the owner to partially refund the stay). Better to have no description of a crappy place.

Several of my go-to hotels over the years let me down when a guard would gossip to my girls about me. My girls routinely told me what this or that guard said. Often the guard let slip: "That guy has many girls". I can't think of any good single reason for a guard to say that. Guards are fired for doing it. Normally I wouldn't let slip the hotel name, but for one of them I will, as the guards were egregious for un-safe practices at the time. It was about 2010, at Bayview Park hotel. One afternoon there was a knock on my door. Opening the door there was a PYT who told me that she got my room number from another girl and she wanted some ST biz right then. I asked how she got past the door guard. "I give 50 pesos to him". That's ALL? How did you get up in the elevator? "I walked up the back stairs". 9 floors? "Yes". You have been roaming the hotel then. "Yes". The following day another PYT did the same thing, offering the guard p50 to come inside.Was she any good. What she charge.

[CanoMonger]

Gents.

Anyone know if there are girls in Club Echelon willing to work? Was there few months back and saw lots of young girls. But was a bit shy to approach with it being my first time in Davao.

Seemed like a very young crowd, maybe even younger than 21.

Thanks in advance.