Davao

[Dashing Don]

Ok, its 11am on Thursday and we're back in Manila.

An update on the trip so far:
Upon arriving in Manila early Sunday morning, I went to EDSA and got a beautiful girl. So when I met the first of my filipino friend finder girls on Sunday afternoon, I had been well taken-care of and was relaxed and carefree. I hit it off immediately with the FFF girl and saw her yesterday and will see her this weekend. So far, she has been the highlight of the trip. I have met several other girls from FFF, both in Manila and Davao, but she was the best.
We flew down to Davao on Monday and went to the Marco Polo hotel. Had dinner at O'flannagans and just missed DS by ten minutes. Maurice introduced himself--a friendly fella. Loved the food there (mash, burgers, steak and kidney pie, chicken pot pie--you know the rest. Reasonable and good) And then met up with GE for a while at a nearby establishment. The following day, I did tourist stuff with the FFF girl, like visiting the Philippine Eagle conservatory and Jack Ridge Resort but didn't get the feeling that anything would come of it. On wednesday, both I and my two friends daytripped it to Pearl Farm resort-- a beautiful place.

Some thoughts on Davao:
Its definitely not a PFP place. We went to a few establishments like Honey's (?) and Galera (spell). For the first time I heard the dreaded words, "short time". A complete hustle all the way. Neither of us bothered barfining the girls on either night and were not interested in locating other venues. And this is the monger's dilemma. In order to pick up 'regular' or 'normal' girls, in Davao or anywhere else, a monger must know that he has a PFP backup. In Manila, I was the perfect gentleman with the two FFF girls because no matter what happened, I was going to bed with a beautiful girl that night, thanks to the abundance of beautiful PFP girls. This eased the tension. I was gracious, playful, a gentleman.

Not so in Davao. First off, the city IS full of beautiful, available women. But so is everywhere else in the PI. A word here on what the average Philippine woman is like: short, petite, black hair, black eyes, demure, very feminine, and wide open to an approach.-----The problem with Davao is that if you arrive there and try to pick up regular women, you're going to be horny and just a little desperate and there's no decent PFP backup. This is not the best way to pick up a woman anywhere in the world.
I made contact with and got phone numbers of so many girls in airports, stores, etc just by smiling and saying something like " you're beautiful, how many kids you got?" or " you married yet" or somesuch. This is followed by smiles, blushing etc. and conversation. Basic, but it works everywhere in the PI. For me, these are the most beautiful girls in the world. But until you have a few girls set up, you need an EDSA or Burgos to back you up. I hope I'm making sense here.

More later,

Don

[GoodEnough]

Went out to the Bistro Europa last night with the Slayer, Baby Slayer and our two women. Some of you may recall that the restaurant is located at the back end of Rizal Pavillion. We arrived early at the restaurant, and the Pavillion was virtually deserted. By the time we left though, at about 9:30, there were several groups of "non pro" women sitting at tables around the outdoor bar area and immediately adjacent to some of the restaurants. Slayer of course, noticed them as well.

Keep in mind that the pickings were fairly decent and this was a rainy, somewhat cold Wednesday night. I got a beautiful smile from one girls whose face at least was a definite 9. She was sitting down, so I cannot comment on the rest of her.

If you're alone, the Pavillion is definitely a place you should be checking out. I think we will take Cooler Brew for a look when he's here, though my girlfriend already has someone who wants to meet him.

:D

GE

[Dashing Don]

Just shooting off the top of my head here. And it probably doesn't even belong, but here goes.

Its 9:51 in Sabang, Puerto Galera. Just got in. Looks great. An almost medieval-like street layout with narrow walkways for streeets, bordering on the bay. Restaurants in abundance, some quite plush, even by Manhattan standards. Located a go-go bar in back of a restaurant--barfine 500 pesos. Tons and tons of women. Snorkeling/diving by day. Barfining by night. I'll check it out the snorkeling tomorrow. Drank some Chilean Chardonnay at an astronomical $17 but feel good.

Rather than a block-by-block report, I'll recount perhaps the best attributes of the Philipinos: Courtesy and sense of humor.

Their courtesy is all encompassing, even stifling, but gives great opportunity for good humored fun. Harsh words are unknown.

For ex:

Waiter: Sir, good morning sir, can I bring you something sir?
Dashing Don: Yeah, a nice piece of ass.
Waiter: Thank you sir (confused) and what would you like?
DD: A San Miguel and some booty
Waiter: A San Miguel?(getting slightly desperate)
DD: Yeah, and gimme that waitress over there
Waiter: Sir, certainly sir. (laughing and relieved-finally figured the crazy foreigner out)

or this, at Pearl Farm Resort, Davao

Waiter: Sir, can I have your name sir?
DD: Sure, my name is John Doe (laughs from americans behind us)
Waiter: Thank you mister Doe, can I be of assistance?
DD: Yeah, get me that piece of ass we were talking about
Waiter: (laughing nervously) Sorry, sir, Sir, sir,
DD: Yeah, ok, get me a San Miguel. And don't be giving me none of that Red HOrse, OK.
Waiter: No, no no, Mister John.

But most of all, its the approachability of the young women that is incredible. This is where the smiling foreigner with the forward attitude makes headway.
Some examples:

Hotel receptionist: Hello sir, can I help you sir,
DD: Yes, I'm looking for a wife. Are you available
Hr: (giggling, blushing) I'm not married sir. Sir, do you have a reservatin?
DD: So you are available! You're just what I'm looking for. What time you get off:
HR: (giggling but trying to maintain a sense of decorum) Thank you Mister Don, I get off at 5PM. Will you need a room?

And so it goes.


More later,

Don

[Full Tilt]

Hi All,

I've been reading all of the past reports and want to first thank all of those who have contibuted their knowledge for the good of the board. I have my cherry trip to the Phils scheduled for Feb, planning to stop first in AC, then to Cebu, and finally to either Davao or Dumaguete.

My plan is to get to know a few of those sweet local gals through one of the websites before leaving the wasteland, with the thought that those who seem like fine candidates will be met during the daytime hours. If I strike out, I will then cruise over to one of the local hang-outs to attempt to meet non-pros or semi-pros. If the evening wears on without success, I will resort to those ladies who are in the business to make me happy. As someone (was it Don?) mentioned a few posts ago, a back-up plan is a high priority for those of us with limited time in the Phils.

So, to all of you PhD Philippino mongers out there, my question is this: If I strike out with the non-pros and need to resort to the pros, which city, Davao or Dumaguete, would have better non-scanky, non-sleezey choices? Or is it a toss-up? There's more info on WSG on Davao compared to Dumaguete, so I thought I should ask those of you down in the trenches.

Thanks and hope to see some of you next month.

[GoodEnough]

The Dragon Slayer is leaving tomorrow, and it's been a really nice week. Lots of spectacular wine (provided by DS), some good reminiscing and conversation, some decent meals, and a chance to play with Baby Slayer, who is doubtless one of the world's most beautiful kids. Thanks Slayer, for the good times, and the great wines. I look forward to the next time.

I went with my girlfriend to the fabled Ground Zero tonight to buy some stuff. It's a nice night, so the tables outside were packed, mostly with younger couples, but also some expats and some women sitting by themselves. The terrace itself was filthy, as those who eat there think that the trash cans are placed around for decorative purposes only. I did wonder if the expatriates were guys from this thread, but I didn't stop to ask.

We then went up the street to Some Place Else to have a drink. There were not many people there, but the few expats in the place seemed to be having a great time with the waitresses. James, the owner, insists that these ladies are not GROs, and I take his word for it. I do get the impression though that they would welcome the opportunity to spend some of their off hours with a gracious foreigner. This is just an impression however, and I do not know anyone who has actually tried.

Cooler Brew arrives here the end of this week for a few days, and will get to meet a nursing student or two.

:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

I can offer you no advice on the comparison between Davao and Dumaguete. You might want to send a PM to Dragon Slayer who knows both places extremely well. I can tell you that the odds on striking out here in Davao are pretty small, if you're willing to invest an hour or two in coversation and a couple of drinks. Granted, it's more work than required in a girlie bar, but not a lot, and worth the effort in my opinion.

I've mentioned the nursing schools in Davao several times as fruitful places to meet women. I've neglected to mention however, that there are also several universities here, in addition to the nursing schools. There are, that is, students all over the place.

I don't know if this helps with your decision or not.

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

GoodEnough, Thankyou. Enjoyed it. See you soon.

Dashing Don, Sounds like you had fun. Would have liked to have met you and invited you and your 2 Police pals to the Party at my Suite last Tuesday night, January 11. Fine wines, gourmet food provied by GE and a magnificent bottle of Comte de Champagne, Taittinger. Went from 8:30Pm until 12:30AM. We would have invited extra ladies if you guys were able to make it. Had an extra bottle of Gosset 1996 Grande Reserve Millenium we could have opened that evening. With a smaller group, it was utilized at a second party two nights later.

Full Tilt, come back to you in a second.

Pals, Davao is definitely undergoing change, and for the BETTER. More nice restaurants, upscale Bars/Bistros and a generally Safer Feeling. The "Some Place Else" Wine Bistro/Club is in what had been a dumpy wearhouse. Has about six cute waittresses in their 20's, all of which I feel certain can be "had for the fucking". No beauties, but no pigs or ugly girls either. 6.0 - 7.5 is the range. None were very nicely dressed or wearing much makeup. Appearance could improve greatly with a little cosmetology and designer wear. All were sweet, friendly and several had great sets of tits.

O'Flanagan's has resorted to strictly a Mens' Hangout. No more lovely ladies in there from what I could see or hear from the guys. Still a nice place to eat and drink among a very congenial crowd of ex-pats.

BEST PLACE FOR REGULAR GIRLS IN DAVAO: This is easy, a new site called the RIZAL STREET PROMENADE. On weekends a live band plays from 9:00PM until 02:30AM in the Open Air Courtyard. During the week a DJ plays rock music beginning at 9:00PM. Two open air bars with plenty of stools in the center. Tables all around. Restaurants line both sides of the Promenade. At 9:30PM on a Wednesday night last week the Place was really going strong. Plenty of young ladies with only a handfull of guys sitting at the open air bars. I saw a gorgeous girl arrive with four lady friends. She was about 5'3", early 20's and with a rack of D CUP TITS. My guess would be a 36D, 24, 36.

Before Posting I did some research on this Place (did not want some loser to say I am blowing this way out of proportion). I spoke to Tony, a 45 y/o NZ Guy who alternates from NZ and Davao with homes in each place. He was there the previous weekend. Planned on a couple of beers around 10:00PM before calling it a night. When the band stopped at 02:30AM the DJ came up and began playing latin music. Tony had as many as 4 women at his table at any given time in the course of the evening. He finally headed home to his own Woman at 04:30AM. Place was still packed and showed no sign of letting up. This is at 04:30AM!!!!!

I made inquiries of Maurice (O'Flanagan's Owner) and several more Ex-pats and got similar reports. What I saw myself was actually enough to convince this Slayer where Davao Pussy Central is located. The convenience store at the corner of J Camus & Ilustre Sts (Ground Zero) is still GREAT. ALL other Posts aside, I went by on a Monday night at 7:30PM and the tables were almost all occupied with a regular, decent crowd of college students and nurses. Noticed several women sitting in small groups. As it turned out, it was the only Place I visited that evening where there was decent activity (pussy). You DO have to 1) Sit down at an outside table. 2) Spend as much as P150 ($2.67) on beers and soft drinks for ladies. 3) Talk to ladies passing by and invite them to join you. 4) Be polite and friendly.

GE told me how my former "honey", Real Jean Tejada, still hangs out here. If you read my Aug 2004 Posts you will notice how she was with me for the last part of the month. Just 19, first year College and a lovely, semi-pro. Cost me P600/day for all day and all night with her. She was sweet, cute and a fantastic fuck. The Big Fella (German Shepherd) at Base Camp could not resist one night as I was fucking her on the livingroom couch. While she rode my dick he stuck his tongue in her asshole. At first nervous, she got too into the fucking to care about the giant dog licking her butt hole. As she moaned out loud, I thought I saw GoodEnough leaning over the upstairs balcony watching the show.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Full Tilt,

Ok, you think you may strike out with the regular girls. What the Fuck!. Do you have at least one eye, one leg and not too many appendages missing? Do you have enough to spend at least $ 8 US in an evening with a lady? Can you speak at least occasionally without stuttering too much or drooling all over yourself? If you answered YES to at least 2 out of 3 of the above, you have an 80% chance of scoring with ladies in Davao or Dumaguete. You can increase the odds by being outgoing, friendly and approaching them on the Boulevard (Duma) or Ground Zero/Pussy Central (Rizal St Promenade), both in D/T Davao.

Try the chats NOW before your Trip. Line up many in advance as I have always done in the past (no longer need this usefull tool). Also, hit the nursin college at 8:30PM nightly as they leave and invite a lady to join you for dinner. Suggest some nice, public place where she will feel "safe' and you can work it for dessert back at your Hotel later.

As to the Bar Girls. I am quite disillusioned with the Pros in Davao. Moonlights is good for some VIP Room fucking but no way would I EVER take a single one of them back to my Hotel. Hot Legs, Honey's, Galleras and ITMES Clubs are Places where the ladies are primarily interested in "fucking you over". I Posted a ton on this already. We just found "Clappers" another D/T Davao Club a street over from Hot Legs. I imagine this will be no different from the other four.

I would suggest Dumaguete for Pros. There are less Clubs but with 7 Colleges there, I have a feeling a lot of young co-eds are working for School money. More likely to be decent ladies than the hard core Pros in Davao Clubs. On my first Trip to Dumaguete i counted seven Clubs, most located outside the City, a short taxi ride away. Two Clubs are located about a 10 minute ride down the Boulevard. I visited the one last Trip here. Had a gorgeous girl dancing nude with huge, lovely tits. I had picked up Wilma, a 20 y/o co-ed in front of the "What Not Bar" as I was getting into a trike to go there so I could not take her home. It was tough picking up this 20 y/o amateur. I just told her "get in, what else do you have to do?".

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

There are a couple of new places I've noticed over the past eight or ten days. Unlike my friend Cooler Brew, who has been here for a week, I didn't make notes, so I may have forgotten some of them, but here goes anyway.

1. Around De Bonte Koe - My lady and I ate with Cooler Brew and one of his ladies a couple of times at Henny's and observed two new phenomona. First, the bar called "Red" which is across the courtyard from Henny's place has suddenly come alive. The nights we were there, several unaccompanied young lovelies went breezing through the door, and had not exited by the time we left two hours later. Second, the action in the open courtyard, strewn with picnic tables, has definitely picked up. Cooler Brew and I strolled through there about 9 one night, and two tables of women beckoned us over. We took no action, but we certainly could have.

2. Clappers-This is the place to which the Slayer referred in his last post. As he said, it's about 1 block off Rizal and apparently, it's well-known, though I had never heard of it before. I have not been there, and I will likely never go, but I have spoken to several guys who have been there. Each reported that the place is a Karaoke bar with about 25 women, some foxy, some not, There are the usual VIP rooms where anything goes, and there are no bar fines. They all said it's simple to make arrangements to meet the girls after work, and one guy said he found a girl there that he saw for about ten months.

3.186 Bar- This bar is the first one you see on the right side of the Rizal Pavlillion. It, like the rest of the Pavillion, is jammed on Friday and Saturday nights with women looking for a good time. Most appear to be amateurs or semi-pros, but there are no hard core professionals that I saw. This may be the place where Golazo reported he met four women one night and got numbers from all of them.

Cooler Brew has hooked up with some real cuties while here and seems to be considering Davao as an eventual retirement locale. He has really gotten into the spirit of the place, and we will be sorry to see him go this week end. It's too bad that he missed the Slayer by a couple of days, as those guys would get along well.

Golazo, I lost your number and your email address, but I did want to tell you that I have met someone to whom we will introduce you the next time you're here. She is adorable!

:D

GE

[Bilbo Baggins]

I've been reading this thread and thinking of visiting Davao thanks to your posts. The mayor should give you guys an award for promoting tourism there.

The last time I was in the Phils was 19 years ago and I wasn't impressed with the dental work I saw on filipino's but I've been hearing stories about guys getting their teeth fixed in the Phils for a tenth of the price.

I need some work done on my teeth and have been thinking of having it done over there rather than at home. My question is do any of you know or recommend a good dentist in Davao or should I go to Manila or Cebu etc.

I am going through a divorce with my filipino wife of 20 years and as a consulation I thought I would get the treatment there and find some nurse to console my broken heart. The money I'd save would finance my trip. Any advice would be appreciated.

[Full Tilt]

Thanks DS and GE for the input and reassurances. Since making my earlier post, I've had great luck meeting cuties from Davao online and most have webcams. I've had quite a few offers of free companionship already, and have lined up one young babe that promises to make me happy within 30 minutes of leaving the airport terminal. And, I have obtained a few other phone numbers from some others who seem eager to substitute. As a guy in his mid-50s, trapped in the wasteland, this is feeling great and shaping up to be my best time ever.

[GoodEnough]

Bilbo:

I have the names and phone numbers of two excellent dentists here. Their work is up to Western standards, and the results cost about a third of what is would be in the US or Europe. Send me a PM if you want the specifics. It's all pretty easy to arrange, and all these guys take US insurance.

I'm glad that you found some of the information in the posts helpful. I'm always surprised at how many people read this stuff. The Slayer did tell me, but I guess it did not register at the time. He was right though.

Guys:

The WSG member Cooler Brew just left today. He was here for about a week, and we had an excellent time. He will, I'm sure, write an extensive post. I need to salute him though for the coup he brought off while here. He's the first one I have ever known to bag an actual staff member at the Marco Polo. Many (including me) have tried ardently, and failed. He succeeded in a day. He will, I'm sure, post the details, but I wanted to report it, since I think he probably deserves some sort of reward and he's a pretty modest guy.

Maybe it just proves what we've been saying about Davao. All things are possible.

:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

I was talking yesterday to the guy who owns Karl's Koffee Station, about which I've written previously. He said that, on any given night, he gets about 40% of his patronage from young women who come in either in groups or alone. He thinks they're all looking for men, though they arrive in their own cars, and they're definitely not pros.

For those interested in checking the place out, grab a taxi and tell the driver you want to go to the Shell Station in Buhangin. Karl's is at the corner of the parking lot. You will probably not find this place by chance and you sure as hell will never walk past it, because it's about 10 minutes from the center of the city. I would try it about 9 or 10 in the evening on a night when it's not raining.

:D

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Since returning home I have done nothing but work. Well, not exactly. I have been on the internet meeting quite a few lovely ladies. Met one beautiful filipina who is a semi-pro cyber cam girl. I had my birthday this past Monday, but unlike last year, I was here rather than in Davao. In the early morning I was up at 04:30AM completing a Project for a Client. She came online and wished me a Happy Birtday as I was working online. Then, she turned on her cam and said, "Baby this is for you for your brthday". SHe first removed her blouse (no bra) and showed me a lovely set of small tits. She said her mom was awake still and might come in the room so she could not show me more.

I replied with a "my cock is at full mast, let me see your pussy". She then moved the cam and removed all her clothes. I had a 30 minute live porn show of her rubbing her pussy. At the end she just said, "Hope you enjoyed it. I love you". I thanked her for a nice birthday present. I met her in a yahoo chat room and she was NOT doing live cam shows but looking to meet men.

I heard from my Anie whom I was fucking last year in Davao on my birthday. She wiished me a happy birthday and repeated her request that I fly to Singapore. I want to see my Annie but I have no desire to visit Singapore now. I told her to fly to meet me and I would pay her airfare. See what happens.

I found the missing film from last August in Davao. Has photos of Real Jean from Ground Zero, Apple from O'Flanagan's and Marites from Filipina Hearts, ALL of whom I fucked last August in Davao. I will try to Post the photos here. Guys need to see what can be had down here.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

Guys:

I went, over the week end, on two open water dives over the coral gardens here. There were about 15 people on the dive boat, and only eight divers. The rest, with one exception, were women who just wanted a nice day at the beach. I don't know how typical this group was, but if I can generalize from the experience, this is another excellent way to meet normal women.

I just got into the diving scene in Davao, but there is at least one group that rents a boat and goes every week. All certified divers are welcome, and it's a lovely way to pass a Saturday. Anyone who wants to hook up with the group can PM me and I will give you phone numbers and other information.

:D

GE

[Cooler Brew]

Gentleman,

Please excuse my tardy posting, have had numerous problems getting on here.

I spent ten fun filled days in Davao ,and i can say honestly that I am seriously considering Davao as retirement destination. Unlike my first trip which was basically checking out the scene ,this trip was very productive and a load of fun.

As many who have read the prior postings probably already know Davao is not Angeles or Pattaya, however,the quantitiy and quality of non pro women here is incredible . In addition to the women the number of european and american style restaurants makes it far more pleasant culinary experience than eating "monkey on a stick" from some street vendor in Angeles City.

As too the women they can be found anywhere , in malls , in restaurants , and even in the hotel you are staying in , although hooking up with the latter requires a good deal of discretion and delicacy . The bottom line fellas is that unless you are completely without social grace ,money or a sex drive ,you will only sleep by yourself if thats your choice.

More to Follow,

Cooler

[Bilbo Baggins]

Thanks GoodEnough very kind of you. I sent you a PM but with the problems I'm encountering accessing the site not sure if you got it.

[GoodEnough]

Bilbo:

Sorry, but I'm having similar problems accessing the site on a regular basis, and I never did get your message. Why not try again, and I will respond with an email address which may be more reliable.

Cooler Brew: We miss you here in Davao. All of the nurses keep looking for you and I do no know what to tell them. In particular, the lady with whom you went to Claude's Place keeps bugging us about when you're going to return, and telling us you will not be disappointed when you do. You must have made quite an impression. I found out a couple of days ago that the famous "Moonlight" has been sold, though I know nothing about the new owner.

Ciao,

:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

Bilbo: I got your PM this time, thanks, and I will respond. It looks as if the Forum may be back up and running normally again. If so, thanks to Jackson for staying with it.

GE

[GoodEnough]

We met Golazo and a date last night at Bistro Europa on Rizal Promenade. The place was not at all busy when we got there about 8. At midnight, we came back, trying to meet up with another friend for a drink at Bar 183. The place was so mobbed that we could not ever get near the door, let alone inside. I would say that 60-65% of the patrons were women. The rest of the Promenade was also jumping. There must have been over 2,000 people in and around the outdoor areas alone, and some of them were really stunning.

On Saturdays, at least for the present, this has to be the bar of first choice.

:D

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Hope ALL are fine. Cooler Brew nice to hear you had a good time in Davao. I have been hearing almost daily from my Annie, a former head nurse in the D/T Davao Hospital now in Singapore. Told me she thought I was "done with Davao" and wanted to know why I chose to return 4 weeks ago. Had more of her "Davao Revelations". None that surprised me. She is a very beautiful woman though falling short of my "Shanghai Baby" in So China. Not surprised a "friend" would try stealing her from me.

Some of the chnges in Davao:

Fat Mike, remember him, the "Gorund Zero / O'Flanaan's Regular"? He NOW has a serious girlfriend living with him and rarely ventures forth onto the Davao Night Scene. I did not meet the lovely lady but from what I have seen Fat Mike with at Ground Zero, she is most likely from 18-23, cute and possessing a very "hot" body. ANd this guy lives up to his name, Fat Mike, in every possible way.

Ground Zero WAS my favorite and most successful spot for meeting lovely, young pussy in Davao. This has changed as I reported (First, I might add) on the Rizal St Promenade now known as PUSSY CENTRAL. I got independent, reliable verification of this as the best place for lovely, Davao ladies from several "normal" guys living in Davao. I also saw and reported on my first hand experience here. Now, I see GE is also reporting on this place.

I never did like Moonlights or its owner. Knew it was for sale for some time now and have no desire to venture there. Too much hot, lovely, young Regular Girls and Semi-pro co-eds to waste time with hard core pros.

I WILL be back posting on the Toronto Board. Look for the Slayer there. I am back with my beautiful, lovely Su, who gave the Slayer his 1-6th ever deep throated blow jobs. Again, not as beautiful as my Shanghai Baby but still "Drop Dead Gorgeous" with a "Body to Die For". She is also extremely low maintenance and only 30 (looks 23). I plan to venture forth to the Bars, Clus on Highway & where tons of lovely asian pussy can be "had for the fucking" also. Guys have begun posting in Toronto about this Hwy 7 goldmine.

My nephew will be accompanying me back to Davao City. He grew up in my parents homw during my HS and undergraduate college years. Now a veteran of NYPD Blue. No 6'4", 240# guy like me, which inspires certain losers to make comments here. No, he is 6'5" & 220#. What we Irish refer to as "In Fighting Shape". He had been on the Force barely 6 months when he got his "Trial by Fire" on 9/11. His experiences in Manhattan as a cop that day and in the weeks to follow could fill a book. If you ever ventured by the Unted Nations Building near Rockefeller Center from that morning to a week later you most likely met this young giant standing guard.

He has inherited his Uncle's fascination with asian pussy, something which made his mother comment to me,"what is it with the men in this Family and oriental women?". Good Fucking Sense is what it is. He commented on a lovely, young chinese girl he is working in Brooklyn and asked for my "sage advice". I then said a Trip to So China and on to Davao was definitely in order. I owe him one as he is arranging for my 45 from my younger days in a different profession (had been my father's when he was with the Bureau) to get out here to me. A lady friend of his who is a Federal Agent has secured a transfer to my City and offered to bring my gun along for me. This appears to be the only legal way to get it to me. On nights when bored I want to go out to the range and see how much my skills have deteriorated.

I posted here about Shanghai Baby's friend seeking an american guy. My nephew has decided to jump at the opportunity (these NY cops don't miss much). My Annie just IM'd me yesterday that she has a gorgeous, young friend for him also. Kid is set before even venturing into this Gold Mine of lovely, young pussy. Look for BOTH OF US at Pussy Central & Ground Zero & O'Flanagan's nightly in a couple months. He is also a singer of Irish ballads and an excellent musician. Mauice at O'Flanagan's will want him to entertain a bit, I am certain. Doubt if he will though as he is the "tough, silent type", unlike me.

This Year has been off to a great start. Last August I limped out of Davao (literally and figuratively) both tired and pussyless for the first time in 25 years. NOW, I am back with anyone who meant anything to me, including my daughter's mother (former beauty pageant winner), Annie and Su in Toronto. Only problem is I met the incredibly beautiful SHanghai Baby on the chnese chat room board a week after arriving home back then. Only American guy to go in there against all the chinese language characters on the screen. Made two trips to china for her so far and go back soon. Nice to have these problems as opposed to the ones I had last August. This time around I will always "Fly Solo" and keep the pussy to myself. No more good natured sharing with a supposed "friend" and no more "trusting idiot".

Happy Valentine's Day Pals

Dragon Slayer

[Domino]

As I want to bonk the beauty at the corner of Gen Luna and Legazpi Streets. This is where all the small shacks are. The stroll is Legazpi between Magallanes and Gen Luna and San Pedro (and more) betwen Legazpi and the Town Hall. The place is alive with 500 peso pussy and much of it is really beautiful. I intend to do at least three a day.,

Davao: Action opposite City Hall

The short time fleapit mentioned below is the aptly named Crimson Inn; the vstrolls abound with these fleapits. About 10 pm I picked up a 19 yo beauty for the princely all in sum of 550 pesos, less than 400 baht (for Thai skank lovers), opposite the City Hall. She has to be one of the nicest looking pros I have ever lanced. Like all young beauties, she was not a great performer. And I have seen better since, beauties, perfect tis, flat belllies and butts to die for.

There are many cheap hotels around City Hall btw. This is a student town and beauty told the best (me) she was a student. Who knows and who cares? One thing, many of the student eye candy are off bounds.

After watching a pro MRO demonstration outside City Hall, I picked up a skank in the morning. She asked for 300 plus 80 for the room. The short time "hotel" is a fleapit on the road leading to the City Hall. Put your back to the City Hall inscription, walk on the road leading to it and the aptly nam,ed Crimson Inn "hotel" is about 300 meters away. The lady was having her period but offered to go bareback. She "cleaned" her putrid pussy on the towel (How I hate skanks and towels). I went for a BBBJ instead. She took her false teeth out to finish me off. I paid her 400 and was happy to get away from her. The lady running the kip house said "Thank you for coming sir" as I left. The Phs are so polite.

I find the Ph ladies have well developed mammary glands.

I was asked if I was worried about the bombs. Although bombs have no targets - especially when no warnings are given - I am more worried about diseased providers. I do not think Davao is worth coming to from what I have seen so far. I can understand that Good Enough is based here and has an affection for the place and I am sure anyone else with a heart would be the same. Still, if that hooker was not a hooker and I was not an asshole, love might bloom

[GoodEnough]

Domino, you devil, you've seen more of the real underbelly of Davao in a couple of days than I've seen in 13 months living in the place. I agree with you, as I've said many times before, about Davao not being worth coming to if you're looking for the P4P action. Manila has more, Cebu has better, and Angeles probably has more of that kind of action in 100 meters than exists in the entire city of Davao.

However, for meeting, and bedding non-pros, non-GRO, non-barfly women, it's been my experience that Davao has few equals. Granted, this may require the investment of a little time, and time may be to precious to those only here for a couple of days. I would say that you need at least a week here to appreciate the place fully, and that it helps to be with someone who knows a little bit about the city. If you need some pointers on places to go to meet these women, and you're still here, send me a PM.

The bombing in Davao occurred about about 6:30 on the night of Valentines Day. We went out for dinner at about 8:30, and the streets, bars, clubs, restaurants, and stalls were bursting with life. No one, it appears, was deterred from enjoying the evening. Of course, Filipinos take Valentines Day seriously, and it would take more than a bomb to make them desist from the 24 hour party that this day has become.

I will be in Makati all next week on business, and I know that despite all of the charms of Manila, I will be homesick for Davao within a couple of days. I guess the city has just grown on me.

:D

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Is this even alive? I cannot believe the last Post is by the Loser Genius8, a fucking moron who once tried to tell me that in Leyte where I have a home the language is Wari. Then he went on to correct me on Mandarin Chinese, even though admitting he had never been to china and could not speak it. Where do these dickheads come from?

I hope the Site does not end with this dick as the last Post. I will be back in April with the "forces of the Law' accompanying me in the form of several members of my immediate family in both NYPD and Feds who I have convinced to make the trip in search of the lovely asian pussy. This will be a fun trip and I will get their opinion of just how dangerous Davao realy is. From what they tell me about NYC now, I think Davao will appear like a quiet rest home full of pussy.

I have been busy here but still seeking the lovely, asian pussy in the northern hemisphere. Be in Davao right AFTER southern china.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

I posted a couple of months ago, right before the Slayer got here, about a new place called Someplace Else, that's around the corner from Maurice's Place. I said then that one of the nice things about it was that it had live music. No more. Apparently, the place never attracted enough customers to warrant the expense of a band. It's started a vicious cycle I guess, because now, I never see anyone there but the "waitresses"/GROs. My guess is that it's not going to be around alot longer, which is too bad since the people who own the place are quite nice. Right next store, at the top of Casa Leticia is a club called "Totos" to which the Slayer originally introduced us. It appears to have really caught on and is still another place work checking out on the week ends. It's attracting an increasing number of middle class looking women.

The good news is that Swiss Deli has gotten a new stock of French, Italian and S. African wine, and there's plenty of it. It has become quite an in place for lunch and for shopping.

To anyone who might be wary of coming to Davao for the first time because of the recent bombing outside the bus terminal, I think the risks of recurrence is fairly small. The alleged bombers have already been caught, paraded in front of the public and been plastered all over the papers and the Mayor, who is a genuine tough character, is seriously pissed off. Life on the streets is completely normal, and the restaurants, bars, clubs, etc., are as packed as they always are.

Golazo, what can I say? The lady really misses you. You must have made a hell of an impression because the calls and questions continue and the subject is always the same.

:D

GE

[Mahku]

Well, a quick review of 'f**king moron's' posts shows that he usually gives actual information about places where a guy can meet girls. I don't know about the other members here, but I'd much rather have that kind of post than the one that complained about the 'loser.'

Funny, although I looked at the dictionary under 'loser', I couldn't find anything that said 'disagrees with Dragon Slayer.' However, someone who's still smoldering over a minor geograhical dispute from a year ago might be a good example of the word.

By the way, they do speak waray in the north of Leyte and Visayan in the south. So you're both right. What's the big deal? And though I can't speak for your Chinese ability or the other guy's, I do know that you've also claimed to speak Japanese. I tried it on you and you speak Japanese about as well as I speak Jive.

[GoodEnough]

Mahku:

Nice to see that you've been upgraded to Sr. Member. PM me when you're coming back here. I've now hooked up with the diving community in Davao, and you would, I think really enjoy it. Nice people, some seriously attractive "normal" women and some excellent dive sites. In fact, I'm going out on a dive tomorrow. Too bad you're not here to participate.

Ciao,

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Mahku,

You have a very guilty conscience. Have not mentioned you here. You are a very small item, way down the List in my Life. I have been looking on this site ONLY once every few weeks. You should have shut up and quit while you were _____.

Never, EVER, saw you with a Woman. either in Davao OR in Cebu. Maurice at O'flangan's told me, "Laddy, that guy you had here was a 'cheap one' ". He went on to relate how you would sit there for more than an hour without a drink in your hand. Until he finally bought you one. You replied, "thanks, I have to tell you I do not like to spend money". Straight from Maurice, owner of O'Flanagan's Pub on Ilustre Street in Davao City.

Now stop mentioning me here smal timer. Spend your time finding a woman. You are still e-mailing the one girl I tried to set you up with in July. I know this as you just sent her an e-mail and I heard about it immediately. I guess she was not so "Ugly" or "Sleazy" after all. Also, you still owe me P600 from the evening last July. Money means nothing to me but you are taking this to the next level. BIG MISTAKE.

GoodEnough. I give up on YOU after Annie's revelations. What the fuck is wrong with you??? Can't you keep your little dick in your pants??? Beautiful as she is, Annie is my woman and you were totally out of line propositioning her. I know, I have this ALL WRONG also. Yes, they are ALL lying. Only the GE is telling the truth. More LUST in your head than you could ever get in your pants.

You were supposedly my Friend. Well my Friends DO NOT try to take my Woman. Pals, Annie is NOT some dumb tramp. She was Head Nurse at a D/T Davao Hospital and is NOW Head Nurse in a Hospital in Singapore. She is soft spoken, articulate, beautiful and has a "body to die for". College graduate and perfectly fluent in english.

I only check this site every few weeks now. Work and personal life take over. So if you Two insult me here and I do not get back to either of you small timers, it is NOT because I am "running scared'. Just busy. I will be in Davao soon enough and GE and Mahku can confront me to my face, like men should. Or should I fly to the Middle East on my way with my Nephew and Cousins, Mahku?? You can tell the three of them what you think of guys like me. I would go easy on it though, if I were you.

I did not reply to ANY of your PM's in February because I was not checking WSG, only for a quick Post once or twice about my Nephew and Cousins accompanying me to Davao. If you wanted to "bury the hatchet", insulting me here is a stupid way to go about it. I had long since forgotten all about you. It was GoodEnough and his woman, C__, who brought up your Name last January in my Suite during Baby Slayer's birthday party. I did not reply as it was my daughter's party and I do not concern myself with small matters, especialaly such as this.

GE is an "interesting guy". He called you, "full of shit" concering your December lies about me and his woman called you a "cheap son os a b___h". Yet, now he wants to go scuba diving with you. Not surprising as he invites me to stay at his place and then hits on my Woman. Just as she put it to me after I left Davao last Trip. She had told me to stay away from GE when she left for Singapore. Did not mention why until early February.

Have a Client Meeting now and off to work. Hope to Post on more pleasent topics such as Asian Women in the future.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

After a hiatus of about four months, I went back last night, with my girlfriend to the Billiard/Bar/Restaurant called Blue Posts II, which is behind the Marco Polo hotel. As I wrote before, the place is reasonably well managed, has about 14 tables, an indoor and and outdoor restaurant/bar, and a congenial crowd.

I noticed last night that there were, at about 10 o'clock, three tables of attractive, well dressed young women who were clearly available. I'm reasonably sure that these were not pros, but I'm positive that they were hunting for men if the big grins and smiles I received when I passed the tables is any indication. As I was there with my GF and her sister, I was not tempted, but I might have been otherwise.

I do not think this is any sort of "guaranteed" hunting preserve. But it's a nice place to relaz with a beer, shoot some pool and entertain the possiblity of perhaps meeting someone who interests you. Since it's so close to the Venue compound, it would be easy to pass by for an hour before proceeding to the hectic throng around Venue.

:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

DS:
You know, in the past, when you wrote all the stuff about me, I never replied. But now, I think I have to. You can believe what you like, and you doubtless will, but I am telling you that I never, in thought, in deed, in words, or even in inclination, made any suggestive remarks to the lovely Annie. In fact, the only time I ever remember seeing her when she was not in your presence was when she brought some girl over to my house for me to meet, and I'm quite sure I told you about that.

I do not, and never have, propositioned the girlfriends, wives, or significant others of my friends, or those who called themselves my friends, and I never will. In fact, to tell you the truth. Annie, good looking as she certainly is, does not (as you should know) have the type of looks that appeal to me. If you stop to think about it for a moment, you would realize that this is true.

I have no idea what Annie's motivation is. I have not seen or heard from her since whenever it was that I last saw her with you. You are, by the way, the only person that I ever invited to stay here,and that invitation was motivated only by the fact that I enjoyed your company and considered you a close friend. I do not know why you get instantly offended by every unsubstantiated rumor, but do not take the word of those who consider you a friend. Nevertheless, I wish you all the best, and I regret that it's come to this.

GE

[Zorrow]

Good Enough and Dragon Slayer,

Take your fight to some other place. I, and I believe everybody else visiting this site is not visiting to read about your childish inconviniences. So please drop it or do it by private mail. ;o)

[Zorrow]

Hi GoodEnough

This was the first mail of yours I was reading without geting irritated. My message so far has been - keep your private childish fights with Dragon-something in privacy don't bother the rest of us with the fact that the two of you don't get along very well.
If you after reading the above still want to contribute with some needfull information I would be very interested in geting information and contacts about diving in Davoa as I'm planning on just that.

Best regards


Guys:

I went, over the week end, on two open water dives over the coral gardens here. There were about 15 people on the dive boat, and only eight divers. The rest, with one exception, were women who just wanted a nice day at the beach. I don't know how typical this group was, but if I can generalize from the experience, this is another excellent way to meet normal women.

I just got into the diving scene in Davao, but there is at least one group that rents a boat and goes every week. All certified divers are welcome, and it's a lovely way to pass a Saturday. Anyone who wants to hook up with the group can PM me and I will give you phone numbers and other information.

:D

GE

[Zorrow]

Hi again

I guess that I owe you an apologize. You surely have contributed with many threads to this forum. I just got irretated ( and still is :o) that the first two pages of the Davao thread was filled up with negative words from you and Dragon Slayer.

Best regards


There are a couple of new places I've noticed over the past eight or ten days. Unlike my friend Cooler Brew, who has been here for a week, I didn't make notes, so I may have forgotten some of them, but here goes anyway.

1. Around De Bonte Koe - My lady and I ate with Cooler Brew and one of his ladies a couple of times at Henny's and observed two new phenomona. First, the bar called "Red" which is across the courtyard from Henny's place has suddenly come alive. The nights we were there, several unaccompanied young lovelies went breezing through the door, and had not exited by the time we left two hours later. Second, the action in the open courtyard, strewn with picnic tables, has definitely picked up. Cooler Brew and I strolled through there about 9 one night, and two tables of women beckoned us over. We took no action, but we certainly could have.

2. Clappers-This is the place to which the Slayer referred in his last post. As he said, it's about 1 block off Rizal and apparently, it's well-known, though I had never heard of it before. I have not been there, and I will likely never go, but I have spoken to several guys who have been there. Each reported that the place is a Karaoke bar with about 25 women, some foxy, some not, There are the usual VIP rooms where anything goes, and there are no bar fines. They all said it's simple to make arrangements to meet the girls after work, and one guy said he found a girl there that he saw for about ten months.

3.186 Bar- This bar is the first one you see on the right side of the Rizal Pavlillion. It, like the rest of the Pavillion, is jammed on Friday and Saturday nights with women looking for a good time. Most appear to be amateurs or semi-pros, but there are no hard core professionals that I saw. This may be the place where Golazo reported he met four women one night and got numbers from all of them.

Cooler Brew has hooked up with some real cuties while here and seems to be considering Davao as an eventual retirement locale. He has really gotten into the spirit of the place, and we will be sorry to see him go this week end. It's too bad that he missed the Slayer by a couple of days, as those guys would get along well.

Golazo, I lost your number and your email address, but I did want to tell you that I have met someone to whom we will introduce you the next time you're here. She is adorable!

:D

GE

[Zorrow]

I am a newbie to Phillipines and to this forum. I have come across the advice to chat up with girls in advance. But I'm a little bit confused about where to chat and how it is done. Can anyone give me some advice and maybe directions here?


...have the way well-prepared in advance. This means having lots of girls chatted up in advance, waiting for you at the airport, having an understanding what bedroom activities what you want to do with them, and having backups when your first-choice girl doesn't come through. That's the best way I can see to have fun with regular girls on a short visit.

[Mahku]

First of all I just want to say that my only purpose here on the board is to exchange information. I want to get the information I need to have successful mongering trips and also provide information to others. I have no need or desire to set myself up as big time or small time or any other time except maybe a good time. A check of my posts will show that this is the ONLY person I've ever had issues with in my 9 months here.

Neither do I care about being high or low on anyone's 'list.' What I DO care about is the state of this forum. I don't think it's too much to ask that we all treat each other with respect and agree to disagree calmly when we have differences of opinion. Dragon Slayer can't do that. But he can come crying back here about being insulted when someone gives him his own medecine.

My post the other day was in response to your flaming of Genuis8, whose main transgression with you seems to be something about what language is spoken where. Your small-mindedness is in sharp contrast to your physical size. My posting in December was after you spent about a whole month trashing GoodEnough. That's not what this board is for. And whether you're attacking me or a fellow member I see no reason why we have to stand for it. And if you get your feelings all hurt by the response that's just too damn bad.

"Tired of this" you say? Rubbish. Anyone who's been here for long knows that you can't get enough of flaming and threatening anyone who has the gall to take issue with Mr. 'I am the Davao Board.'

Awe, too busy and overworked to read your PMs? Tough. You found the time to flame someone so you would also have time to read and respond to messages. Anyway, I also sent you a message in August that was similarly ignored. So there's been plenty of time to clear up whatever it was that caused the trouble between us. Is that 600 pesos all it was? Hah? And you call me cheap? Anyway, like I said before I offered to pay it right away and I would have paid it any time you asked. But it seems to suit you more to stay mad at people and create a kind of victim complex. Anyway, the burying the hatchet offer is out there as always. But as long as you make public attacks you WILL get public responses.

So you claim I lied about you. I'll get to that in a moment. But you, you not only lie but you trot out the same lies that I shot down before. NEVER, EVER saw me with a woman? Do I have to bring out your post again from August where you clearly say I take a girl upstairs at Exotica. Anyway, the reason you rarely saw me with a girl was because I was following YOU around to dead end venues like Monster Coffee Shop, Gallera and that comically bad floor show at the Metropolis Mold Hotel. Next time follow me to places I like to go and we might both have pussy to spare.

I will ask Maurice in person in July what he really said and what he really thinks. I already know for myself what happened. Not only did I always have a drink but I usually ordered dinner there too. So either he's mistaken me for someone else or you're just lying (again). I think I already know which. As always I will 'get to the bottom of things' in Davao.

I would also love to get to the bottom of things in Leyte. But as I said before (can't you do any better than trot out the same lame stuff?) she has to send me a photo before I'll start to take her seriously. You say she's a hottie but I know that your taste in women is way different than mine. I never said she was ugly or sleazy. How could I know? I've sometimes sent her emails reminding her to send me a pic. It's not my fault if she's not ready to come and play. When she is ready have her give me a call. I'll give her a better example of a foreign man than what she's seen so far.

Lies by me? Well I went back and looked at the December post and almost everything I said can be backed up. The only small retraction I can make is that your women didn't appear to joke about you in your presence, but on their own. I do apologize for this small bit of misinformation. However, I stand by everything else I posted. If you think I'm lying, get down to specifics. But if you do be prepared to have your own words generously served up to you.

You are nothing if not a confused man Slayer. You challenge GE and I to face you 'like men should.' Then in the very next sentence you say that you intend to face me from behind your 3 heavies. I hate to think that that's the example of manhood that Baby Slayer is getting to see. Also, in the same post that you basically call GE a liar, you use his words to try to back up your lame points. Go figure. And his girlfriend? She only saw me for a total of about 30 minutes. The bill hadn't even come yet, smart guy.

Do you really think these threats of yours bring you any respect here. All this talk about Feds and police sounds a lot like the "My big brother's gonna beat up your big brother" syndrome. This is the adult you grew up to be?

Anyway, go ahead and bring 'em all along. Bring your feds and your police cousin. Bring Tony Soprano, Mama Pajama, and anyone else you think you need to stand up to this 'small time' guy who's mongered on 4 continents in the last year alone. I don't care who's there, I'll tell you what's on my mind. I'll be in the Philippines in July and August. Don't come here to the Emirates because I have a few police and other connections of my own. And don't be surprised if your friends and family take my side and throw down on you. After all they would know who and what you really are. Even if they come after me I'm sure they'll adore you for getting them thrown into a 3rd world prison on disturbance charges.

So we have the same recycled lies, the standard threats, pointless red herrings about being cheap and other general incoherence. Man, why don't you turn over a new leaf and get a new groove. Drop the attitude and just come on here and post about the women like you said. If you just do that nobody will have a problem with you. We might even get along. I doubt we'll ever be bosom pals but we can at least inhabit the same space without trouble. You do post some good information in between your less useful posts. Let's work on that part and check the flame thrower at the door, shall we?

[GoodEnough]

You know what? You're correct. Private spats have nothing to do with the primary reason for this forum's existence and I apologize. As to diving here, the groups and the dives are a bit less organized than in Cebu, but, if you let me know when you're coming and what certification you have, I will be able to tell you what dives are planned for a given month.

There are two large dive shops in town. One is named Caribou and I think the other is simply called The Dive Shop. Either one or both of these places may organize dives, but I'm not sure. There's also a club called Reef Divers (I belong) which schedules dives about twice a month. There was one, in fact, on Saturday. Most of the dives are either on coral gardens or wrecks. There are several wrecks here from WW II...mostly Japanese or Allied merchant ships. I've not been yet on one of the wreck dives, so cannot comment on their quality. The coral dives however, are superb.

You also asked me, in a PM, for the name of the hotel I mentioned, that is across from the Nursing School. I do not remember the name, but when I pick up my girlfriend from class this evening, I will look for it and then tell you in a PM. There's another place here called Holiday Hotel, which is not in the center of town, but out near the Grand Regal. It's got air conditioned rooms, cable TV, etc. for about $25 per night. There's another hotel, in fact the Dragon Slayer wrote about it some time ago, called Larous Pension House, with rooms for about $10 per night, and prices slightly higher for air conditioned rooms. It's on Illustre St. directly across the street from O'Flannagan's Pub.

I will get back to you on the name of the small hotel near the nursing school.

GE

[Full Tilt]

Just returned from Davao and had a great time. I'm now seriously considering Davao for a retirement locale. For those sitting on the fence, I encourage you to go asap.

First of all, it's a large enough city to have most everything you will need, yet without the overwhelming population and pollution of, for example, Manila. There are plenty of good restaurants and bars, and the risk of running into last night's gf are low.

There are many good-looking babes that are easy to approach. I really enjoyed the attention I received. I'm used to females that avert their eyes, but in Davao the girls not only gave me the eye but also gave me a warm smile. These wre ordinary girls, not the SW's. They looked very approachable.

This was my cherry trip to the Phils and I was slightly concerned that most of the available females would be over my personal weight limits. Before I arrived, I had heard numerous reports that the Philippine girls tended to be chubbier than their counterparts in other Asian countries. True, I saw more heavies than I have seen in the neighboring countries. Yet, there were plenty of the skinny types to keep me more than interested. So, don't let the average weight of the RP girls keep you from visiting.

As in the rest of the Phils, I had no problem at the hotels with female guests. I stayed at the Apo View and Marco Polo, and inspected the Insular and Casa Leticia. I encountered no resistance at the Marco Polo and Apo View to bring in guests.

Before I arrived, I was chatting with two females that I met online. Both turned out to be keepers. They were looking for a foreign bf experience and did not expect any money in return. Each had a college degree and spoke English well, a real plus in my mind. I appreciated the language interaction that I could never get in Thailand or Cambodia, for example.

As it turns out, I had my hands full and there was no need to seek out girls at Ground Zero or the other spots discussed in this forum. It was so easy to meet girls online, and they arranged everything before I arrived. However, it was comforting to see confirmation while walking the streets in Davao that I could easily have had many second chances if my chatmates turned out to be duds.

I also stayed at Pearl Farm and went diving at a nearby island (can't recall the spelling, something like Tikolad). There was no fish life of merit, but the coral was great. There is also a Jap wreck in Pearl Farm's harbor that I saw. Pearl Farm is a great place to stay and the dive crew is fine. However, from what I've heard, the rooms at Paradise Resort are almost as good at one-fifth the price.

Bottom line: after seeing Cebu and Manila, this is my first choice for my next trip and I've already purchased my return flight tickets. There's no chance of running out of good bedmates, providing a gf experience, anytime soon. Thanks again to GE, DS and the other previous posters for the information that they have posted.

[GoodEnough]

Nice to hear you enjoyed Davao. You probably dove Tillicut Island Coral Garden. I dove there a couple of weeks ago, and also found the coral formations spectacular.

Let me know the next time you plan to be here. Maybe we can get together for a dive.

GE

[Mahku]

Sorry you got here when the flaming was going on. It just gets that way here sometimes.

For meeting girls in chats you can try Yahoo Messenger, Filipina Friend Finder and match.com among others. Other sites are mentioned by other members in different threads here. There's also Cherry Blossoms, but it costs about $15 a month. But being a pay site means that it also helps keep out the riff raff. Just make sure you see a girl on the webcam before you get too excited about her. Lots of transvestites and such impersonate women on those sites.

[Zorrow]

Thank you very much. Using Yahoo Messenger didn't really got me any further - maybe it's me that can't make it work well - I never found any girls from Philippina.
Filipina frienfinder brought me to another site called filipinaheart.com. It is a site where you can search, have a look but can not come in contact with anybody without signing in and paying. But when you're first a paying memeber you have acces to a lot ( and I mean a lot ) of Philippina girls. So guess it is woth the money.
Thank you for bringing me in the right direction.

The very best


For meeting girls in chats you can try Yahoo Messenger, Filipina Friend Finder and match.com among others. Other sites are mentioned by other members in different threads here. There's also Cherry Blossoms, but it costs about $15 a month. But being a pay site means that it also helps keep out the riff raff. Just make sure you see a girl on the webcam before you get too excited about her. Lots of transvestites and such impersonate women on those sites.

[Zorrow]

Makhu - Thank you very much.

Using Yahoo Messenger didn't really got me any further - maybe it's me that can't make it work well - I never found any girls from Philippina.

Filipina frienfinder brought me to another site called filipinaheart.com. It is a site where you can search, have a look but can not come in contact with anybody without signing in and paying. But when you're first a paying memeber you have acces to a lot ( and I mean a lot ) of Philippina girls. So guess it is woth the money.
Thank you for bringing me in the right direction.

The very best

[GoodEnough]

We were eating at Henny's (De Bonte Koe) tonight, and there were so many people on Rizal Promenade, that on leaving we noticed that the police had blocked off the top half of the street to traffic. Literally hordes of people spilling out of the bars, onto the pavement and the street. Really quite an amazing sight.

Coming back, I realized I was out of cigarettes and decided to stop at the Corner Convenience Store around the corner from Maurice's place. It too was packed, but the crowd was so sleazy, and so down market, and the place itself was so filthy outside, that even had I been alone there would have been no temptation to stay. There were plenty of women it's true, but half of them looked as if they had not been near clean water in weeks. I saw no expats there at all, and the average age seemed to be about 20.

The bar Someplace Else is moving, as I found out tonight, to Rizal St., right next store to De Bonte Koe. I think the hope of the owner is that by locating on Rizal, he will attract more of the women ( and hence the men) who normally hang around the bars on Rizal Promenade up the street. I doubt that it will work.

:D

GE

[Khun Larry]

Can anyone comment on safety in Davao? I am staying in Cebu and would like to have a look around Davao.

Also, can anyone comment on the whether Cebu or Davao would have more available ladies.

Thanks,

Khun Larry

[GoodEnough]

It's true, this thread has gotten moribund if it has not died outright.

Today was St. Patrick's Day, which means that Maurice, of O'Flannagan's fame, held his annual golf tournament, which means a hundred men and women started swilling beer by the keg at 9 this morning, which means that by the time they get back to the pub, they are going to be truly legless! Should be fun. Think I will pop over.

GE

[Lustforthrust]

Trim,

Plenty of poontang across the border in Shenzhen for $150; its all available. Dump your pp mongrel and set yourself free.

[Zorrow]

I'm heading for the Philippines in the start of April - just a three weeks vacation.

First week I am gonna stay near Puerto Galera doing some diving ( and hopefully have a little fun ).

The second and the third week I am going to Cebu And Davao.

Any recomendation on what part of Davao to stay. I would like a little nightlife, meeting some Philippinas and maybe going to dive a couple of days.

I also would like to have recomendations on girl-friendly hotels in the pricerange 15$-30$.

The best regards

[Spam Hog]

Good day all, haven't been on the forum too much lately...busy anyhow, I just like to let Zarrow know we have a lot to offer in the way of dives, best guy to talk to is Henny Smits, runs the Bonte Kow resturaunt, but he is in Holland and may not be back so they say until after Easter, but I know a few other outfitters here, also if you need a PADI cert let me know, there is an american who will do it if Henny is not in town.

For Khun Larry, Sawasdee Khap!, Security is my thing and re Davao safety, the US has more street crime, but Pattaya and probably 'Krung Thepp' have more rip offs, speaking from experience. Biggest problem here is the idiot MILF and ABU's who usually stay in their own venue, they keep them out of Davao, the Mayor will wack them if he finds them here but dont go in their 'territory' which begins about fifty miles south of here near Digos/Malinta (Piracy central) Same as the NPA, Jungle dwellers only As far as Ladies, its like Thailand, they are everywhere, my own opinionis it is easier to meet "girl next door types" or non pros in Davao where foreigner's are still a bit of a novelty

Wild scene at O'Flannigans on St Pattys day, bunch a drunk germans mooning everyone, some bar girl type in a short skirt trying to flirt with all the guys, Maurice half in the bag doing a hell of a jig... mrs Spamhog found it amusing.

[Zorrow]

Thank you for replying about the diving in Davao. I am a PADI instructor myself and all I would like is some good and interesting dives. But both goodEnough and now Spam Hog have told me a little about the opertunities for diving Davao and it sounds like there are some good divespots.

I will be in Davao about the 11. of april and I would stay for about a week and I really would like to do some dives in that period. Any suggestions about who to contact, divecenters, clubs etc.

Best regards


Good day all, haven't been on the forum too much lately...busy anyhow, I just like to let Zarrow know we have a lot to offer in the way of dives, best guy to talk to is Henny Smits, runs the Bonte Kow resturaunt, but he is in Holland and may not be back so they say until after Easter, but I know a few other outfitters here, also if you need a PADI cert let me know, there is an american who will do it if Henny is not in town.

[Spam Hog]

Best guy to contact is Henny smits, he runs dives and tours out of his resturaunt "De Bonte Koe" habana compound, easy to find, problem is, Henny is now in Netherlands and I don't know when he returns, he is more experienced and is probably what you are looking for as he does the deeper dives on ships and some out of the way places.

Another guy I know is a former US marine he just started doing dive tours, he and Henny were dive mates, personally, I would go with either of these guys as far as experience and expertise, they got some nice equipment if you need to rent or can get you a better price than the Phil outfits, if you PM me I will give you his contact info or you can contact me when you get here for updates on both these guys.

You can get a tank fill and dive excursion out of white tip divers at santa anna pier near Magsaysay park, usually about 2,500 per day for the boat, get a couple guys to share the boat with you and it's less.

The Spamhog

[GoodEnough]

Spam Hog is correct. Henny is the best guy and he's back in Davao. I went diving with him over the week end. There's also a very active Reef Divers club here which organizes good dives about twice a month. Anyone wanting more information on those dives can contact me and I would be happy to help arrange your participation.

I've recently met a couple of seriously good looking women here who are interested in "foreign" boyfriends. These girls are not hookers, and I think they're serious about wanting to establish some real relationships. This will not be accomplished through email. However, if any of you guys are looking for marriage material and you plan to be here, let me know and I'll send along the names and the contact numbers.

:D

GE

[X Man]

I'm having a hell of a time trying to get a flight to PI out of Japan at the end of April / beginning of May because of the so-called Golden Week Holiday.

The best I can do is an overnight (both ways) in HK with Cathay. I'm supposed to meet some friends on Boracay for a few days, but would love to go to both AC and Davao.

What is the best air option to get to Davao from Cebu City? I see that some of the small airlines (SEAir) can get me island hopping, but they don't seem to have flights to Davao.

[X Man]

Thanks Trim and GE,

Since my last post my schedule has changed. Now it looks like Cathay Pacific to MLA, but not overnight in HK. Duh, Remind me to change travel agents next trip.

This is what I'll try. MLA - Boracay (Caticlan) using SEAIR.

Then from Boracay (Kalibo) use Cebu Pacific (or SEair) to Cebu and Cebu Pacific to Davao. I wish there was an easier way.

For anyone else making travel plans to Boracay:

Asian Spirit and SEAir fly to Caticlan airport which apparently gives you easy access to the Boracay ferry. If you take other airlines the airport is Kalibo and then you must take a 2 hours bus ride to go to the boat station.

This is my first trip to Boracay, so please correct me if my information is incorrect. I guess I should post this message in "other destinations" as well.

Thanks again.

[GoodEnough]

Let me know by PM if you want a schedule of the Cebu-Davao flights and I'll send it along. By the way, though your Globe SIM may have expired, you can buy a new one for about $7.00, so not to worry.

GE

[X Man]

Thanks GE,

The reason I wanted to keep the old phone number is so that I could print up some cards with the phone number. I guess I can still print up cards and then just add hotel info or phone number as needed.

This kind of article would make the weak of heart cancel a trip to Davao.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2005/03/22/news/phils.html

I suppose this kind of thing makes Davao safer for law-abiding citizens - as long as you don't get caught in the cross fire.

[Spam Hog]

well gentlemen, the morals police be at it again, ya know, enforcing "morality" laws here is like handing out speeding tickets at the indy 500. the spamhog is a bit irked as two times i tried to sign into the forum today at two different inets (these are in matina near my home) and each time i got the little nasty gram about "restricted sites" i mean god forbid we should sign into a forum that says sex guide, when i can walk around the corner and get 2 blow jobs for pocket change in the back of some videoke.

so i'm now downtown at one of the i-nets next to o'flannighan's, some babe in the web cam booth just lifted up her t shirt and flashed her online date, actually there has been a big to do over "cyber sex cafe's' here in davao where local dames are engaging in 'inappropriate behavior" and using (gasp!) language of a sexual content on the internet. (hah! they should hear mrs spamhog when she gets pissed if they want off colour language)

well, the morals police are on the job, they won't let 'em get away with that!!! soon, davao will be safe from tit flashing sweeties and lewd talking doxies of all types, i'll sleep better at night. now, let me pay my fee and wade through the crowd of street vendors wanting to sell me pirated copies of chinese pornorgraphy, past the barber shop/massage parlor with the two **** bimbos in short skirts licking their lips suggestively and drag my ass home.

[GoodEnough]

Thanks X Man for the reference to the article. I read it and I'm printing it out as I write this to share with my friends here. While all of this sounds very dramatic, the facts on the ground are a little different.

First, Davao has about 2 million people, not a million as the article claimed. On the other hand, it's geographically the largest city in the world, and the population density throughout most of the city is fairly sparse. It is not, in other words, a "highly urbanized" area, and still contained farms.

Second, Davao is one of the more peaceful places in which I've ever lived, and I have lived in a bunch, from Europe, and Africa and Asia. I have never had a single friend here--Filipino or foreign--who was the victim of violent crime. I ride my motorcycle here at virtually all hours of the day and night and I've never felt threatened. And I should add that I am hardly a physically intimidating sight.

Third, it's true that the Mayor here is a genuine, "do not fuck with me" tough guy. What the article fails to say is that most people (incluidng your truly) love him. He has made this city a safe, peaceful, and almost tranquil place to live. He steadfastedly denies knowing anything about "death squads" but he is adamant about routing out drug cartels and other crime syndicates. He has stated quite candidly that criminals will not find Davao hospitable, and he's kept his word.

Mayor Duterte has also said that foreigners bring much-needed revenues to Davao, and should consider themselves as under his personal protection. That could be one reason that I've never heard of anyone messing around with foreigners here. Those of us who live here--about 250 expats--really like the place. It's small enough to avoid the freneticism of Manila, but large enough to offer about anything you could want.

Succinctly, the emotional depiction of violence or the ubiquity of violent threats here is pure media hype. My work takes me to several of the "hotbeds" of insurgent terrorism here, and again, I've never felt remotely threatened. In my view, you're at greater risk of physical harm in Manila, London or New York than you are in Davao. Come on down. It's a nice, peaceful city but you will only be able to recognize the absurdity of the hysteria until you've seen it for yourself.

:D

GE

[Khun Larry]

For Khun Larry, Sawasdee Khap!, Security is my thing and re Davao safety, the US has more street crime, but Pattaya and probably 'Krung Thepp' have more rip offs, speaking from experience. Biggest problem here is the idiot MILF and ABU's who usually stay in their own venue, they keep them out of Davao, the Mayor will wack them if he finds them here but dont go in their 'territory' which begins about fifty miles south of here near Digos/Malinta (Piracy central) Same as the NPA, Jungle dwellers only As far as Ladies, its like Thailand, they are everywhere, my own opinionis it is easier to meet "girl next door types" or non pros in Davao where foreigner's are still a bit of a novelty

Kop Khun Krup,

Sounds like a visit to Davao will be enjoyable

[Spam Hog]

Well gentlemen,

Davao was locked down tighter than a crabs ass, usually "black Friday" is the dullest deadest day in the PI, it certainly was in Davao, Goodenough certainly summed up the security situation well, if the fear mongers in the press want to potray us as a 2 gun frontier town, let 'em, all you guys stay away and leave all the cute little honeys to us, a day like yesterday was a great time to stay home and play "squeeze the weasle" with one (or more) of 'em.

Anyhow, I was riding around all over the place yesterday, lot of check points, got stopped by the task force guys, chatted things up a bit as I know some of 'em. no incidents.

Also for Khun Larry, you will find Filipina's more open and honest than Thai yings, they are better educated and speak english better, however (and I hate to admits this) Thai Yings are by far much better in the sack than the average Filipina IMHO.

[SD Dago]

Hello all,

Anyway, GE, DS, and SPAMHOG might remember me from back before XMAS when I was posting and PMing trying to get the down low on PI and DAVAO. Anyway, I had planned to come in January but got delayed with business and some domestic issues. However, that is all behind me and my calendar is finally clear. I plan on traveling to PI on April 24th. I plan on staying 30 days on this trip to experience the country and all its pleasures.

Anyway, I have been chatting with a few bimbos in Cebu and Manila. All of them trying to shake me down for cash for this that and the other thing. I've just been politely trying to empithize with them and extract information onthe country form them. If these gals are any kind of representation of the female population in Phillipines then I will have to keep my money in the bottom of my shoe while visiting this country. Let me tell ya they have tried to run every scam known to man on me in the last few months. All to no avail of course. However, I must admit, their determination and creativity has really given me pause. Manila must host a con artist college or something.

One 20 YO broad actually said to me and I quote, "I am hungry, but I have no education, no job, all I have is my pussy!" Now this was a close personal friend of a 19 YO broad who is living in Philladelphia with her new husband. I met her in a chat room 6 months ago. Amazing! Anyway, I had to laugh. "Caviat Emptor" Buyer beware. Something tells me lots of new cars in PI with yellow primer under the paint, "taxis".

Well, I plan to hit Cebu, Boracay, Palawan, Dumagette and Davao. Any suggestions on this itinerary? What order should I visit these cities?

I plan on getting a cellular phone when I arrive to help in organizing and controllingthe logistics aspects of my female companionship. I've read enough posts on this board to realize that a local cellular is a must have for mongering.

Also I plan on doing alot of diving while I am in PI. So maybe GE can help me set this up?

Nick

[Spam Hog]

Yeah we remember ya!!!! Best guy to go through is Henny Smits for a dive.
either I or GE can set it up, I also know another guy x Marine does it.

It would be a good thing if we could get some kind of clearing house on these bitches and out them with email's and all, every once in a while I have somebody ask me to do backgrounds on their "love" and I find all kinds of scammers, gays and weird stuff, I would appreciate a PM so I can add any info you care to donate to my data base.

Also, I'm working on two situations now, one in Cagayan and another in Davao on big time scams, the "Girl" in CDO is like not a "Girl" at all.

Despite all this, I still say Davao is the best place for pussy and guns, plenty of each.

[GoodEnough]

SD Dago:

I would be glad to help you set up some dives in Davao and/or Cebu. We do about 3 group dives a month here in Davao and sometimes four, and I have a friend in Cebu who runs a dive operation. Just PM me with specific dates and times.

In fact, PM me with any specific questions you may have about anything in Davao and I will try to help. There are others on this board who know far more than I about the other cities you plan to visit.

:D

GE

[SD Dago]

Lots of gals I have chatted in the last few months express concern when I tell them I plan to visit Davao. For some reason I guess Davao is perceived to be a little more dangerous than other places in PI? Someone even told me that while Davao is considered safe, I should not consider travel to other parts of the island since it is controlled by Abu Sayef. "Controlled by Abu Sayef", now thats a strong statement. To me control means, illegal, gunman checkpoints, and such! Any truth to that?

Well, no matter! I plan to visit Davao anyway. I feel comfortable knowing the mayor has death squads running around killing the natives. He's got my vote!
Ra!

Diving sounds excellent. Haven't been under the water in over a year. So a few shallow dive refreshers would be nice before we drop down one of the walls or something. I plan on staying wet most of the time I am in PI though. I love diving almost as much as bangin LBFMs. I said almost! hehe

Well, I will bring a supply of cuban cigars and Napa Valley cabernets with me. Happy to spread the love! Perks from living so close to the border in San Diego you see. That comi son of a ***** in Havana sure rolls a nice cigar.

I am on my way to Texas for a spring turkey hunt tomorrow. When I return I willstart preping for PI though. 24th I am flying.

Anyway, while I was discussing the turkey hunt with my brother on the phone, I had a thought. Instead of beeting the bushes for poontang in Davao, why not set up feeders? You know kind of like a turkey hunt. Only instead of corn we use jazz music and california wines. hmmmmm! Whata you guys think? Maybe HQ needs to have a jazz happy hour or something twice a week. Just a thought. Draw them in close to the guns! hehe

[GoodEnough]

For those of you iinterested in staying abreast of the latest information on pick up bars, Someplace Else, which used to be around the corner from Illustre St. has now moved. It's off of Rizal St. diagonally across from De Bonte Koe, and it's a much nicer venue than it was in the older place. It's now much smaller, has some tables outside, a smaller menu, but a bigger bar. It has the same GROs/waitresses and it's still owned by the same British/Philippines couple as the old place. The grand opening was last night. Since this place is right in the middle of the Rizal St. action it should be a good spot to chase women and if you cannot find anyone there, you can always walk up the street to the promenade.

GE

[Vigo]

Just got back from a 3 week sojourn in PI. . Well I thought I'd share my thoughts on the following.

1) P4P: I cannot comment on this since I I was with enough regular women and P4P has lost it's appeal for me. I walked past a couple of the places like Hotlegs and Clappers but never sampled them. I also saw lots of streetwalkers around Apo View.

2) Malls: I think success in these places is subjective. IMHO you have to be comfortable with approaching girls in front of a large crowd with everyone knowing exactly what you are doing. Also you have to be prepared for some rebuttals and possible embarassment. I'm sure this approach works very successfully for some people, but it does depend.

3) Bars: I visited most of the main bars and drinknig places. The Venue was a great place to go with a date or a group but to go there alone and meet girls would be different. At those places everyone is in groups so a foreign male sitting alone would look odd. Once again you would have to be brave enough to either invite a group of women over to your table or ask for permision to sit with them . However if you were with a buddy or two it could be a different scenario.

Bar 183 and Liquid were great since you could stand at the bar or wonder around just chattting with people. I met a few people this way. Just a word of advice, a lot of people in these places are very wealthy Filipinos whose families are invariably in the military. This seems to be a trend with rich Filipinos. Therefore the "I'm a foreigner, look at my 500 peso bills" won't work in these places. However just being a lighthearted and friendly foreigner will worksince there aren't so many foreigners here so you'll be a novelty.

4) The internet: This is where I had the most success. I chatted with a few women in the Mindanao chatroom before I came and out of 10 I managed to meet 9 of them. All of them were interested and I ended up seeing 3 of them.....Unlike in Cebu none of them brought their friends or extended family along to 'meet' me. None of them tried to shake me down for cash in advance or instructions as to how to send money through Western Union. They were all relatively honest and didn't try to scam me. Of course, they expected the nice meals and I also took them all shopping a couple of times.

In conclusion I can only repeat what has been said before that Davao is a grewat place to meet regular women but.....you need to have done some ground work before you arrive or if already on the ground approach the women in a normal way. As others have said before if you want to bed as many women as possible in a week then it's probably best to venture elsewhere.

Also avoid the holiday weekends, Maudy Thursday and Black Friday were so quiet. The place was a complete ghost town!

Thanks to this forum Davao was exactly as I expected although I must admit I didn't realize quite how much female attention I would get as a foreigner. It's not a case of boasting but I'm generally not good at smooth talk but in Davao it was the women who were engaging the smooth talk. Role reversal! By the end of my first week there I had bitten off more than I could chew and also got involved in a situation which I still feel quite guilty about so I hit the hills and spent a few days alone relaxing on a beach in Cebu.

All in all it was a good vacation and Davao is a great place.

[Spam Hog]

Once again folks, Davao is not the unsafe frontier town it is perceived to be by Filipinos, remember, most filipinos are scared shitless of the Moro, ABU Sayaff is a relatively small group that centers around Jolo to Basilan, they have associates every where and recruit people to do their dirty work in other parts of PI but their base of operations, kidnapping, extortion, robbery murder and all the other fun things are generally confined to those areas, also, remember ABU's are a different ethnic tribe, they are sea people (Pirates) lots of Groups here use the Abu Sayaff name to strike terror in the hearts of the timid. However as far as 'controlling things', no.

What you DO have here in some of the contested areas around Cortobato, Gen Santos and Kidapawan is the MILF, they DO set up check points, any one entering in certain areas must have a pass from their "Brigade commander", Datu (Chief) these guys are organized along the lines of an army, wear uniforms etc (have a neat looking arm patch) Most of these locales are fourty to fifty miles away from Davao IMHO Manila is much more hairy than Davao.

So find some little honey, hunker down in a hotel and go diving, muff that is.

[GoodEnough]

Spam Hog is exactly right in his analysis of the trouble spots. All I would like to add is that, if coming here as a casual tourist, you would have absolutely no reason to visit Kidapawan, Gensan or Cotabato. Having been to these places for my work, I can assure you that there's nothing in any of these cities to attract the average tourist. Like Spam Hog, I feel much, much safer in Davao than in Manila.

GE

[Harvey WB]

I have friends in Gensan, but have never dreamd of visiting; they come to Davao. But lately I've noticed a string of beauties cropping up on Cherry Blossoms from Gensan of all places. Since I'm married and mongering days are over I'll pass, but woe to the uniniated newbies who hook up with a sweetie from there. Mall hopping would be off of my list of activities.

[J Boy]

Vigo
You mentioned shopping trips. How does this work and about how much does it cost you? Do you lay down ground rules with the girl beforehand or ???

[Vigo]

Vigo
You mentioned shopping trips. How does this work and about how much does it cost you? Do you lay down ground rules with the girl beforehand or ???By the time we went shopping I 'd already spent enough time with them to realize they were decent women so I just asked them if they needed anytihng. I actually had to persuade one girl that it was ok to shop with my money! I hate shopping actually so I'd usually give them 1000 pesos and sit down with a coffee and meet them maybe an hour later when they'd finished shopping. If I I was getting stuff from a decent pharmacy like Watsons I'd also ask them to throw in some cosmetics or shampoo.

[MasterBlaster]

I have friends in Gensan, but have never dreamd of visiting; they come to Davao. But lately I've noticed a string of beauties cropping up on Cherry Blossoms from Gensan of all places. Since I'm married and mongering days are over I'll pass, but woe to the uniniated newbies who hook up with a sweetie from there. Mall hopping would be off of my list of activities.Most of the GenSan beauties in Cherry Blossoms are pictures of local actresses and models. Some are actually gays posing as women. Don't get fooled by a picture. It is better if you actually saw them on a webcam. Anyways, these posers' motivation is for you to part from your money.

[GoodEnough]

First, the new Someplace Else is a much, much, nicer bar than the old one. It's more intimate, has a large, otdoor table and some new very cute GRO.Waitress/Hostess types. I was there with my girlfriend, and I didn't engage in much small talk with them, but there's little doubt they're available. Actually between Someplace Else, Chico's. which has an outdoor terrace and is 10 meters away and Seventh Avenue, which is maybe 20 meters in the other direction, you can have a really nice evening with a high probability of meeting someone adorable.

Second, the convenience store, where we stopped tonight to pick up some soda and cigarettes on the way home. It was packed, and there were several tables of women alone, but they sure weren't college girls. More like street toughened pros. Some were quite pretty, and there's no doubt at all that they were waiting for trade.

On the way up Rizal Street from Someplace Else, we passed by the promenade and, as is usual on a Saturday, the cars were double parked and the bars were overflowing. Rizal St. is definitely the place to be on a Saturday night if you want to connect with a non pro, or at least someone who looks like a non pro.

GE

[Harvey WB]

MB,

I had those thoughts exactly about the girl-boys, LOL. Woe to the poor guy who falls for one and travels 8K miles.

GE,

I dragged out my trusty Davao map and realized where Rizal St is, 2 blocks down from the Apo! I used to lunch at Apung Kula on Rizal about 3 times a week, looking forward to going back someday to see the new look.

[GoodEnough]

You will probably find that Rizal, or at least parts of it, have changed a great deal since you were here. This is now, at least in my opinion, the most upscale mongering destination in Davao. It's also got the nicest atmosphere and the prettiest women, at least for now.

GE

[GoodEnough]

Rizal St. is getting ever better as a social/mongering/drinking destination here. We were out there tonight, and my observations are as follows:

1, The square which houses Bar 1776 and the Iron Horse is becoming ever more popular. The outdoor area is packed every Friday and Saturday night, and they are now featuring live bands. Tonight's band was doing U2 covers and they weren't bad. There were loads of women on the prowl, sitting in groups at the picnic tables, and all in all, it looks like an excellent hunting ground.

2. Chico's, which fronts on Rizal also had a live band, tons of women, lots of dancing and has the advantage of overlooking the street, so you can immediately recruit someone if no one sitting at the place attracts you.

3. Swig is a new bar on Rizal. It's small, and it's packed every week end night with university students. The place does not close until 3 AM, and it's jammed with dancers boogying the night away. It's also an excellent alternative to Bar 183 which is down the street.

4. Bar 183 continues to be packed, and the crowds seems to surge back and forth from there to Swig, which is only about 100 meters up the street. It too attracts alot of university women on the make. I have friends now who restrict themselves to these two places every week end and rarely come home disappointed.

5. Someplace Else is, sad to say, empty. In the hour and a half I sat across the square from the place this evening, I did not see a single customer go in. It's attractive, but it has not defined itself well. It has hostesses, in the midst of a scene that offers abundant women, and it's located next two two upscale restaurants whose clientele do not want to frequent a girlie bar. Too bad, because it could be a nice place if it ever decided what it wanted to be.

In closing, I should add that I stopped by the corner convenience store tonight to buy some cigarettes. It too, was packed, inside and outside, but with a really down market crowd. Lots of sleazy looking lady boys, and some readlly hard looking women drinking Red Horse beer. All in all, it's the flip side of Rizal.

:D

GE

[X Man]

Hello,

Has anyone ventured south of Davao to Sta Cruz or Digos City? Is it safe to travel along the coast?

Any advice about Davao airport and transportation would be appreciated.

What is the typical taxi fare to get into the city?

[GoodEnough]

I've been to both places, and neither is anything to get excited about. Both are small towns, relatively clean, but with no compelling attractions. Neither appeared to me to have much nighlife, but I was on business when I was there, and really didn't look.

I cannot think of any reason to go to either of these places.

GE

[GoodEnough]

We went to the venue compound tonight to eat some Thai food, and it's the first time that we've been there in quite some time. We did not go to the disco, so I have no idea if it was vrowded or not, but the restaurant square was absolutely packed with peoplel I would say that about half of those there were couples, but there were lots and lots of ladies strolling around in pairs. The bar Halos was jammed with single women, mostly young. I thought some of them looked about 12 but my girlfriend said they were probably 16. The women there were not, I think, hookers. In fact most were well dressed, well jeweled and totally middle class.

Ralph's Wine Bar was packed inside and out, with about three tables of women, as well as couples. There were very, very few expats.

:D

GE

[Spam Hog]

I've been to Digos a number of times, my extended filipino family has a few members there, safety wise no problem, but DO NOT venture south to Malinta (pirate haven). Digos has a small beach area which features a "disappearing island" basically a big coral reef. One hour by taxi maybe P300, bus is cheaper. Best to know some lady there, hard to find any night life and few bars etc. catering to xpats. Also few taxis mostly the trisikades or three wheeled mobil coffin as I cxall them.

PM me if you need more.

Spam hog

[GoodEnough]

This has been the week of the National Dive Fete here in Davao, with sponsored dives almost every day, and various parties, conferences and lunches for the diving community. Because everything is free, more people than usual came out for the dives, and there were some very serious looking women among the divers. For those of you who dive (or want to learn) this is a great way to meet women, esepcially since you get an uninterrupted 5 or 6 hours to get to know her.

Anyone who is interested in this approach, and who plans on coming here, let me know, and I would be happy to let you know about the diving schedules.
:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

Davao is alleged to be the largest city in the world geographically, I do not know if this is true, but it is enormous, and you can easily drive for an hour outside of the center of town and still be well within the city limits. Even after having lived here for a year and a half though, I never realized, prior to last week end, how remote and primitive some of outlying areas truly are.

Last week end, I needed to go to the Barangay of Kalinan (sp?) which is about 45 minutes by car, from the center of Davao, and about four light years from the city in terms of modernity. Actually, I was going slightly outside the center of Kalinan, and found a level of poverty and lack of modern amenities equivalent to what I've seen before in the most rural and remote areas of the Philippines. The places I saw had no running water, no phone service, no public transportation other than motorcycles, no paved roads and, other than subsistence agriculture, no means of earning a livlihood. True, there was electricity, but only in those areas that were proximal to the center of the "town." Bathrooms consisted of rough outhouses, and cooking was done outside, over wood fires.

I had the opportunity, during this trip, to speak to professional educators, trying to cope with teaching children reading with no books available, and to speak with young students who had never actually held a book in their hands., nor ever owned a pen or pencil, nor ever had writing paper of their own. Given the panoply of goods on display in the urban areas, and the relative "normalcy" of life in these areas as opposed to Kalinan and regions like it, it's easy to fall into the trap of thinking that the urban environments represent normalcy for most people. In fact, this is not the case.

What's most depressing about this, at least for me, is that the overwhelming majority of people in these areas are given no tools with which to escape or to improve their immediate environment, and no hope of a better life. The level of literacy is low, and I did not observe a single book or newspaper in any of the homes that I visited. I perceived no difference in the level of hopelessness there, than I did in most of the African countries in which I've worked.

I did not get a chance to speak to many of the residents, but of those to whom I did speak, most had actually been to downtown Davao, once or twice in their lives, and found it totally intimidating. This is a true peasant culture, and it's still within the city limits of the largest city in Mindanao. Given the rudamentary aspects of life there, I guess it's not surprising that so many of the young women who migrate, after high school, to Davao proper, are so completely lacking in urban survivial skills, and so totally naive.

For you guys who have never seen the type of place about which I'm talking, it's a rude awakening, and it's what the girls who tell you that they're "from the province" are talking about when they try to tell you where they grew up.

:D

GE

[X Man]

What is the proper name of this airport in Davao?

It's new, is spacious and well organized. Not very crowded either. The COMPLETE opposite of the Manila airport....Aquino...something or other.

Damn, I remember where I was when Aquino was murdered. Hey, too young to remember JFK.

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Work has given me no free time for four months. Also I needed to get away from the Davao bullshit, primarily GoodEnough. I have not read or been on this site in three months. I waited until my retun home to Post as to avoid any run ins with the unwanted in this city. As it is the guy has turned Stalker.

I arrived quietly in Davao. No advance notice and ONLY Maurice at O'Flangan's knowig when I would arrive. I was alone as it was my intent to hunt the awesome Davao Pussy, a lovely beauty.

Got in on a week night and learned that I can no longer just wander in here as I have done for the past nine years. My favorite Hotel, Casa Leticia, was fully booked. So was every other Hotel I checked. Ended up at the Tower Inn, a pathetic place, for certain. Got into my Hotel the following monring when they had an early vacancy, but no President's Suite.

I wasted no time meeting a lovely woman in her early 30's. We exchanged cell numbers and I headed to O'Flanagan's for breakfast. She began calling and texting me with a regular frequency of every 15 minutes. I was busy calling a couple young ladies I met on the internet while taking short breaks from my work. I had to do something productive when not working.

Persistence won out and I decided to meet this lovely 30's woman with a huge set of breasts. Turns out she is from Davao but is an Elected Official in another City in the Mindanao. She was in town visiting her family for the long holiday weekend. Her family is involved in Davao City politics and her father is of some importance here. Some might question my judgment in meeting with a lady in a City where political differences are rarely settled in the courts or at the polls. But she was beautiful and she had huge tits. On matters in this area my cock makes all my serious decisions.

She knocked on my Hotel room door at 8:00PM She had on a nice, lowcut dress giving me a good look at her huge tits. She sat next to me on the bed near the door and I asked her where she wanted to eat. She replied, "I am not hungry, I ate earlier". So i just started kissing her and worked my way down to her chest quickly. Got one of her huge tits unleashed and began sucking on it. Then the other tit and moved on to her furry pussy. She began to open my pants and pulled out my cock.

We fucked for the next hour and then took a break. I took this opportunity to open a bottle of J Schlamsberg 2000 Blanc de Noir Champagne (No. California sparkling wine), a magnificent beverage. SHe took her full champagne glass and commented, "I do not need champagne to get me horny now". We went back to fucking and I tried for the back hole, a Slayer favorite. No luck so I went back to her pussy for a good workout, She stopped and said, "Let's try my anus again". I got her from behind and began pounding away. SHe kept yelling, "honey, you are fucking my anus. Oh baby, you are fucking my anus. Oh baby, Oh, Ohhh". I had heard of the term "getting butt fucked by some corrupt politico". Never thought I would get the chance to payback. I assume this must be how lobbying is done down here.

She left at 02:30AM and promised to return in the morning. I was on my back, naked and exhausted. These Mindanao politicians are one tough bunch. She knocked on my door at 10:30 AM and immediately went to sucking my cock, then fucking me. I took her to O'Flanagan's for lunch and then to my hangout, Ground Zero (corner convenience store at J Camus & Ilustre Sts intersection). We sat here for an hour listening to music (girls got the outside speakers going for me) and drinking beer.

Back in my room she announced that it would be just the two of us this evening to avoid any comments or questions from her parents. We never made it out of the room. Another good ass fucking, followed by a deep throated blowjob (my first since Su, the chinese girl in Toronto; see Toronto Posts for July '04). She swallowed all 8 inches and I came in her mouth. As she finished licking me dry I was almost expecting to hear, "so, do I have your vote?"

She awoke at 06:00AM Saturday morning and said she had a message from her home and there is a problem with her teenage daughter. She said she would go to her parents home and return by Noon to me. As it is, I never saw her again. She ignored my messages asking where she was and then sent me a message that she loved me deeply but the cultural differences were too much and there ws no chance of more than what we had already (tons of great fucking). Okay, she is most likely still married and wanted some great "Slayer Sex" while in Town for the Holiday Weekend. I had a great time and no regrets. Besides, as it turns out, while at O'Flanagan's having lunch and a few draft beers, I got busy and very productive. New, much younger, prettier and large breasted pussy was fast approaching.

This warrants a separate Post.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Okay, the Elected official left me after a serious two day "lobbying session". It was now Noon on Saturday and I needed some pussy. Had no reply from the lovely lady who promised o return by Noon. Now 12:30Pm I had a feeling I needed to make necessary adjustments. Came by way of a missed call from a lovely 25 year old, former Japanese nightclub entertainer I had met on the internet in March. She speaks almost no english but can read and write it. Phone cllas required use of my limited Japanese.

While drinking with Maurice I sent her a few messages. Told her to come and see me In Davao NOW. When asked how to get there. I said, "take a boat", a comment which had Maurice laughing heartily. A reply 10 minutes later said "that will take several days". I then said,"so take a plane NOW". Maurice and I had a good laugh and I did not expect to hear anything further. 30 minutes later came a reply that she would be arriving just after dawn Sunday moring at Davao Int'l Airport and could I please be there to meet her. WOW! WOW!. When it rains in Davao, it really pours. FLOOD WATERS.

I know, why am I having hot pussy fly into Davao, a City full of hot pussy. Well, I never expected for a moment that she would agree to do this. I mean yes, she saw my huge cock on the webcam a few times over the last 6 weeks and I got to see her lovey, nude body and big tits. No way I would ever expect this gorgeous lady to fly in here Still, the Slayer NEVER looks a Gift Pussy in the Face. When it is offered to you, you lick and fuck it.

Met her at 05:00AM and took her back and we ate breakfast. Got her naked fast and then she went into a crying spell (go figure). I took this as a sign to get some sleep, which I did. When I awoke a few hours later she was fine. We bathed together and I got my first ever bathtub fuck at Casa Leticia. We moved on to fuck in the bed and then off to O'Flanagan's for lunch. I later was to learn that barely 10 minutes after we left O'Fanagan's the Stalker, GoodEnough, came by. First time he had condescended to venture into O'Flanagna's in over a month. Had another guy with him and made it clear he was in there looking for me. The second guy must have been his "hired muscle". I was uncertain whether he intended to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in his pants or cry in the corner.

Ann Ann would only say she had not seen me and had no idea if I was ever going back to Davao. If we had met, especially with this gorgeous 25 year old with me and knowing GE's lecherous, cockblocking ways, I am certain it would have been unpleasant. He claimed to have seen me in Manila the week before which was impossible as I was not in Manila, except on arrival at the Int'l Airport. I am pleased to have avoided the old midget lecher and saved my lady having to watch me dispense my martal arts skills acquired in her country.

We headed back to my Hotel where we spent the next several hours fucking. Returnded to O'Flanagan's Sunday evening and hung out with the crowd there. Maurice has seen me with some gorgeous women. However, I believe this is the first time he ever commented on one. In front of the bar crowd he said, "laddy, that is one beautiful looking girl you have with you". I said that "she is one of those rare ladies who looks better without her clothes". He replied, "I don't doubt it for a minute but will have to take your word for it". Now if this was GE, he would say, "really? No Shit! Take your clothes off now baby so we ALL can see". Like I said, he is a "no class" guy.

We spent Monday evenig in O'Flanagan's and I took photos with the crowd. Fat Mike was in there (see my Posts here for July/Aug '04). He is really a good guy and not even very fat. I decided to call him Michael as he does not deserve any insulting names here. I did, however, have to bite my tongue to keep from laughing when I heard Michael say he lost yet another cellphone. Within a week of arrival here, he had his camcorder stolen and his wallet and cellphone. He then averaged a lost/stolen cellphone about every two weeks. I guess this has not changed.

I took the lovely Lady back with me to Manila for a few more days before we parted and I met the 26 y/o with the perfect rack (an "A" rack as opposed to Iraq). Will Post on this later. I have nude photos taken in Davao of this lady if I can figure out how to get them here.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

The Lady Politician left at 06:30AM Saturday morning. My 25 y/o honey arrived at 05:00AM Sunday morning. That left me with a Saturday night in Davao. Like a nice bottle of Comtes de Champagne Taittinger presented to you on Christmas evening, you want to savor this.

I headed to O'Flanagan's Pub for dinner at 7:00PM. Great food and and a fun, friendly crowd. But NO PUSSY. I hung around and debated between Rizal Promenade and Ground Zero. Decided on Ground Zero and headed there at 9:15PM. Had the taxi slow at corner of J Camus / Illustre Sts (Ground Zero) so I could check out the crown there. The tables had mostly men except one of the long, rectangular tables was full of lovely filipinas. I thought about getting out but decided to head to Rizal Street.

I was much too early at Rizal Promenade. The band does not start to play until 10:00Pm and only a few tables were occupied. I headed to the second open air bar as it had two young girls there drinking beer. They were of the rough, Davao street crowd, smoking, drinking and with tatoos on their arms. also two young guys were hanging with them. I had a beer, P35, and waited. People began to arrive just after 10:00PM. It was mostly men and I was wondering where the fuck the women were hanging out (Ground Zero most likely).

I got talking to the two lady bartenders and they were cute and sweet. A couple girls came but could not get them to talk. In retrspect I should have begun buying drinks to get the evening going. Pitchers of margueritas were the drink of choice for most and this must not have been very expensive. But realizing I had to awaken at 04:00AM and head out to the Airport, I decided to head out at midnight. The place was still filling up and clearly on weekends this was a late night hangout.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I learned that Silk Air now has daily flights from Davao to Singapore. Also daily flights from Cebu to Singapore. You can take a night flight from Cebu to Hong Kong on Cathay Pacific, avoiding going to Manila first. The cost is the same as for Manila to HK. I took it this trip. Jet Air has a $ 79 US flight from Angeles City to Singapore 4 times a week. I also noticed several other regional carriers with very inexpensive flights to spots in the Phils and neighboring countries. Asian Spirit is one of these.

I finally, after 5 trips to china in 18 months, secured the equivalent of a Diplomatic VISA for China, courtesy of the Chinese Counsel. My horrific work load in my Firm resulted in it being delivered to me by special courier at the Airport shortly before my Flight. The Chinese Consulate did me a big favor and I guess I owe them one. Maye the Consul likes good champagne. Sad fact is that my beautiful "Shanghai Baby" became ill and took a one month leave of absence from her work and left southern china for her home in Sichuan. Told me that because she could not have sex with me she did not want me to incur the added expense of flights to Suchuan. After secring the VISA I could not bring myself to go into Chia if I could not be with her. Yes, I have several other ladis there and my mandarin is getting a little better but I had no desire to go.

I have made plans to visit China during the week of the US Independence which amounts to a week long vacation here anyway. Of course I will return to the Phils then also. Maurice at O'flnagan's, as always, knows the date of my return.

Davao has grown to the point where it s now necessary to make advance hotel reservations. Until now I have never needed to do this. From all the Hotels I stayed at the Marco Polo has the best food and the best room service (comes in handy with late night fucking). Room service goes until 02:00AM and is quite tasty. Casa Leticia has the nicest rooms for the money and includes a free american or filipino breakfst for two until 10:00AM. Room service is not so good and the food is not good. Casa Leticia has the best location by far with Apo View a second. Marco Polo is close to the Rizal Steet Promenade and the Pro Clubs of Hot Legs, Galeras, ITME'S and Honey's. But this is NOT an area to walk in at night EVER. Spend the P 22 and take a short cab ride.

For those on a tight budget Ground Zero, O'Flanagan's and Rizal Street Promenade are all great. When I took my Lady Politician to GroundZero (convenience store at corner of J Camus & Illustre Sts) I had 3 beers and some food and she had a soft drink and some food. The cost was about P 120 ($ 2.22us). At O'Flanagan's daily my former japanese nightclub entertainer and myself consumed plenty of beers, full meals and dessert. I never spent more than P 600 ($ 11.10). At Rizal Promenade I had 5 beers that night for a cost of P 175 and gave a P 25 tip ($ 3.70 US total).

I am NOT on any kind of tight budget as I had plenty of fine champanges with me and vintage wines, all of which were from $ 30 - $ 100 a bottle. I went to these places because they are fun and great places to hang out. You can make friends at O'Flanagan's while having a fine meal and then try the other two places. The convenience store still gets the women, including the nurses from across the street at the Hospital.

I received several PM's over the last 3 months. Since mid January to the end of April I was working 10-16 hour days 7 days a week. Little time for anything and even did my packing at midnight just five hours before I left on this Trip. I will try to respond to all. I have NOT read any Posts here or on any of the Boards since February. I may not bother looking back. If you insulted me here, don't ask me to "forgive and forget" afterwards. I prefer to "go it alone" in Davao and elsewhere in the Phils and Asia.

I had very little time but I managed to meet several women in the Phils and China on the internet. This Trip I met 7 women in the Philippines, none of which I had ever met before. All were regular women and were 19, 25, 25, 26, 28, 33 & 36. At least two came from very wealthy families and two, including the 19 y/o refused money for cab fare. One 25 y/o showed up in Cebu with her mother. We talked, had room service dinner and then her mother left. I fucked her 15 minutes after her mother went home. Of the other six ladies, I fucked all of them within 30 minutes of them showing up at my Hotel. Only the 26 y/o with the perfect tits took 2 hours. I had just met her and never actually spoken to her until she arrived at my Hotel. We fucked 4 times that day/night after meeting for the first time.

Meeting regular women is not hard. I do make a point of always dressing nice (no sneakers, white socks, shorts or tee shirts) and being polite and behaving like a gentleman. I am not shy however and I often start conversations with lovely ladies in stores or on the streets. No profanity or lewd, sexual comments. I do invite them for dinner but I try to avoid them bringing friends along or meeting at their home or elsewhere, if possible. As in the case of the pretty 25 y/o who brought her mother along, I just act the gentleman and make the best of it. I ended up getting a royal fucking right after mom headed home.

Dragon Slayer

[Marconista]

DS,

Good to see you back on this board, giving some relevant info. Its just to bad that my job never takes me down south in the RP.

[Dragon Slayer]

Hi Marconista,

Nice to hear from you. I am uncertain if this was my 81st or 82nd Trip to S E Asia from the US since I began in June '89. I may have mentioned this back in January before I stopped with this Board. Does anyone know if i mentioned what Trip # last Jan '05?

I am back just over 24 hours and I had to purchase my ticket for my next Trip. They had a sale to Asia which ended tonight and they are giving a 100% mileage bonus for travel now through August 31. I already get a 100% bonus for my gold card so this amounts to a 200% mileage bonus. In '04 I flew twice R/T to S E Asiafor free world busiess class and it was great. Sothe frequent flyer miles are a really nice benefit. Due to my Gold Card and the Flight home being full, they upgraded me to WBC and the Food/wines were wonderful.

In Manila I met an Italian guy in the Wine Business in Manila. He calls himself a Wine Educator on his cards (??). He was able to get me 4 bottles of different Australian reds from Wolff Blass. Not crazy about any of them and they appear to be on the lower end of "fine wines" but cost far less than what I normally drink. He says he carries the Chianti Wines and can get the Mona Claudia Super Tuscany and even some wines from Sicily. We exchanged cards and I will call him.

Pals, I often talk of my Passion for Fine Wines and Magnificent Champagnes and how I use this to my advantage with the Ladies of China and the Philippines. I highly recommend both the J Schlamsberg 2000 & 2001 "Blanc de Blanc" and "Blanc de Noir" Sparkling Wines (Champagne) from Northern California. I drank these with Mae, the gorgeous 28 y/o I met in Cebu; The lovely Elected Official in Davao and my beautiful former Japanese Nightclub Entertainer in Davao. They both should be avaiable for $ 25 - $ 33 US; a fabulous champagne at a great price. I drank a bottle wit Shanghai Baby in southern china last Dec 30 upon my Arrival.

Just a short note here. To be called a "Champagne", it must be from the Champagne Region of France. The rest are called Sparkling Wines and some of these are magnificent. All will be less expensive than their equivalent in real Champagnes. Taittinger (my favorite among genuine Champagnes) now has Champagnes in No. California. The label says Taittinger and Champagne in big, bold letters beneath it. Then, in smaller, black letters below is "California". I guess they created an exception for themselves as Sparkling Wine does not appear anywhere on their label.

In the past 24 hours I heard from my 25 y/o former Japanese Entertainer, the 19 y/o from the rich family (a student nurse), the 26 y/o with the lovely, perfect tits and even a few with whom I did not meet, including the 21 y/o in Davao who wanted her gf to accompany her to dinner with me (Fuck That). All, with the exception of the 21 y/o were sweet. The 21 y/o can go fuck herself, the pushy, little witch. What does she think the Slayer is, a benevolent, limp dick?

I found a good Travel Agency next to Garwood Hotel at Fuente Osmena (circle)m Cebu City. She helped me with discounted airfars and had some usefull information. She has a friend in the travel business from Dumaguete and can get good ates on resorts there with the assistance of her friend. It is called Great Hope Travel Agency and Ging Ging is the Proprietor. Best Hotel rates for Hong Kong and Southern China are still on the Internet (PM me for details).

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

I am lying here in bed with my girlfriend, in Davao, and we're reading the Slayer's latest diatribes, gratuitous insults, and blatherings with mixed emotions. I mean, on the one hand, two trips ago, I was his "closest friend" and I've gone from that elevated status to "midget lecher," in the span of three or four short months during which time there's been no communication whatsoever. Go figure. I'm not trying to provoke some protracted flame war here, and I won't respond to any subsequent posts, but I had to say something this one time.

Rizal Street, despite protestations to the contrary is probably the safest street in Davao. It's heavily policed, has a permanent contingent of solidiers assigned to it, and has never (at least to my knowledge) been the scene of a single unpleasant incident. I personally feel that it's much less dangerous than the "corner Convenience Store" which attracts the street detritus of Davao who cannot afford to be anywhere else. As to "condescending" to going into O'Flannagan's, it's true that I do not go there much any more. I get tired of the same old people, the same old faces and the same old conversation. It's not that I do not like Maurice, because I do. It's just that I've found other places, more couples oriented, that attract crowds I find a lot more interesting. Tonight, for example, we had drinks (by chance) with the Mayor, who was at the same restaurant. Each to his own tastes I guess.

As to the other girlie bars cited in Slayer's post, I haven't been in any of these for months, and may never be in any of them again. There's nothing wrong with them, but when you get to know the city, there are so many other places that are so much more fun, that I see no reason to go to these.

As to the "hired muscle" with whom I came to O'Flannagan's. Right. He was a 71 year old Australian guy afflicted with Parkinson's Disease. Sure glad he was watching my back. Maybe the Slayer and I have different definitions of class, or perhaps one man's class is another man's crass.

At any rate, this is my last word on the subject.

Ciao,

:D
GE

[Domino]

"midget lecher,"

I like midgets. I am in Minnesota right now,working:( but I will be taking a long break in the Phils over summer. More midgets would be awesome. I luv em. Where is the best place for them? Thanks

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I knew this would come. Why I checked here this morning before going to my Office. What sort of man has his girlfriend read WSG anyway??? Not one I would ever want for a friend. As to the "old midget" comments. Well look at the facts. I believe they speak for themselves: in his 60's (could pass for 70's) and 5'4" tall at best. Last worked out when born, I believe.

The comment on the "hired muscle" was for the amusement of the masses here. GoodEnough, we BOTH know you would NOT spend a fucking penny of your own money on anything, EVER. In reality, you do not have much to spend. Remember what I do for a living guy?? I spend a lot of time in the company of people who have money. It wouldn't hurt if you stopped dressing like you shopped at thrift stores and at least occasionally bought a bottle of wine costing more then $ 9.

GoodEnough, Two months ago you were NOT one of my closest frineds. Not since last September. I made a very big mistake in judgment befriending someone such as you. I blame myself for this lapse. So critical is this that I list it as the biggest mistake I have made since January 1, 2000.

My Annie, now in Singapore, warned me about you last May 2004. She did not tell me that you had propositioned her. NOT until after my last trip to Davao in early January 2005. She said she was afraid I would do something if I knew of this. She calls you, and let me get this correct: "he's a dirty, ugly, little, old man and I don't like him". I think this says it all. She even put all of this experience in writing for my Attorneys back here.

I then asked my daughter's mother if she had any particular reason for disliking GoodEnough so much. She let out a long list of occurrences. I mean what sort of man tells his friend's woman to take off her clothes for him? Please let me know! She said this took place on several occasions when I was not around. Her comment to me was: "why do you think I did not want to keep going to his place? But you kept insisting and what was I to do?" Again, this is a lapse in my own good judgment.

Now GE you KNOW my background and that of the rest of my Family. Want to push this??? You got sloppy with your laptop once. Left something there you did not want me to see. I just wanted to check my e-mails. Decided to include this in an e-mail to myself and printed it out.

Your comment about the French Foreign Legion and how they are "the baddest mother fuckers on this earth. US Special Forces have nothing on them". Well, the comment bothered me. I said nothing to you but I did mention it to my Nephew in NYPD and a cousin with the Feds, BOTH former US Army Rangers. They had their own response, although my nephew was silent for a good ten minutes before saying anything. They both will be with me in Davao in a little while. You can discuss this with them then if you like.

Quit stalking me. This is NOT a request. If I wanted to contact you ever, I have your address and old phone numbers and a few others I prefer not to mention. As I sadi here last January. I am done with you forever. Just leave me and my Family alone and continue with your current ways. Be jealous of me from a distance. Maurice told me, "if it's ever a choice between you and him, laddy, there is no contest". I called him several times from here to say hello but also to know if I would be able to visit O'Flanagan's and avoid You, Chit & Evelyn. I like Davao. I was going there for 7 years before I ever met you. I was much happier living my own life and doing things in Davao my own way.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Domino,

The hobbit house is in Malate, Manila (seriously). Basically a bar with a bunch of little midgets. Was featured a few years ago in a tv special interest program. I heard about it while in Las Vegas working for one of my clients there. A guy asked where I went in asia and when the Philippines was listed, he brought up this Hobbit House.

So, you can get all the midgets you want there. For me, I'll pass, thankyou.

Trimkeeper, hope all is well. I am often in Hong Kong and the prices for a meal absolutely amazes me. Did you ever venture into southern china? The cost drops to about 20% of what it is in HK. Now that I have an Open Entry VISA to China I plan to skip HK and go directly into China.

If you want to contact this Italian guy with the wines PM me. He had a friend along with him who supplies Italian foods to restaurants in Manila. Both seemed to be okay but I cannot vouch for the quality yet. Four different bottles of Australian wine the one guy dropped by my Makati Hotel for me were not very good. But he was doing this on the run as I was heading to Cebu the following morning. The wine, after a 10% discount, cost only P420 - P 520 which even for the wholesale price is far too cheap for quality vintages.

A few guys PM'd me about getting together at some future point. That is fine here in the good old USA but at least for now, I want to "fly solo" in the Philippines. This is how I did it for the first 13 years visiting the Phils and I did not have any problems. Besides, O'Flanagan's is always availabe if anyone wants to drink with fellow westerners. Even a few chinese guys hangout in there now on a regular basis.

I did not visit Venue Plaza this past trip. I never really had much in the way of positive experiences there. I did get drugged at Ralph's Wine Bar last August (posts Aug '04; best night's sleep I had the entire trip), but somehow I cannot bring myself to consider this a "positive experience". There are women there on Frday/Saturday nights. The Lady Politician wanted to go there but then "changed her mind". I think she thought she might run into people she knew there. I never did figure out her actual situation, but "nice pussy, is nice pussy".

Dragon Slayer

[Domino]

I know that place in Ermita but they don't have bonsoi hookers, only Grumpy and a few of his sad friends sitting at the door. Maybe it's living in Japan but I like smaller bikes and, occasionally, smaller women to fuck. I also found the women for sale in Davao very pretty and if there was a small(!) colony of dwarf prostitutes there, that would be truly awesome. I find they are like Japanese rice guzzlers, good fun to ride. Seagypsies would also do, as would Muslim skanks but I don't want to annoy the local headhunters over this. My plan would be to land in Davao and fuck my way across Mindanao. Last time, a lady friend brought me back to Manila.

My alternative plan is to fuck my way North, following the trail of General Yamashita's troops from Manila to Baguio, where I have already lined up an impressive array of bonks, as I have in AC and some other R&R stopps along the way. But they don't really appeal to be. A decadent band of itinerant dwarf hookers in Mindanao does.

Thanks in anticipation

John Gulliver Domino

[Member #1005]

Quote from Dragon Slayer: Just a short note here. To be called a "Champagne", it must be from the Champagne Region of France. The rest are called Sparkling Wines and some of these are magnificent. All will be less expensive than their equivalent in real Champagnes.

Yes, Dragon Slayer you are correct on that; others you may be interested to know are Cognac, Chardonnay wine, Camembert cheese (France) Parmesan Cheese, Parma ham, (Italy) still fighting its case. And if anyone every tries to sell you a deep fried battered Mars bars (a rear delicacy of Scotland) that does not come from a genuine chip shop north of the boarder (to the UK) we’ll sue them for millions.

You are no doubt wondering what this has to do with trying to find hot women to score with and what they were like in or out of bed - well the answer is “nothing,” but since everyone else was also posting useless bits of information here, I though I might as well add some of my own. :D

[Dragon Slayer]

Juniour,

The candy DOES have pertinence with getting laid. So does the Champagne, at least for me. The ladies do not go for the cognacs (although i like them). As for chocolates, I go with Godiva mainly because that is what I know. Anyone with other suggestions for the women please let me know.

Mahku mentioned Tequila once and YES, the filipinas like this. Read my Post below about Rizal Promenade two Saturdays ago. I just suggest using good quality Tequila as most Filipinas are not used to drinking. Herradura is the one I am familiar with but there are many better brands.

I think I need to relate one experience here. Davao is beginning to rival Bislig City as the Cyber Pros Capital of the Phils. I had two ladies from Davao that I met on the internet offer to show me their tits and totally nude for a price. The first was a cute 24 y/o who, when asked joking If I could see her breasts while chatting with cam replied, "sure, give me $ 20 now". When I replied that I was NOT into sendig $$, she said, "then you don't get to see my tits".

The second one was a gorgeous 30 y/o I met while working late the night before I left on my Trip. I was onlne working on a Report for a Client off in Illinois when she started to chat with me. She then turned on her webcam, told me her age and vitat stats. I said, "you're in a private room, aren't you?". She said "yes and here is what I have for you". She then bared a beautiful set of 36C tits and just sat there topless chatting with me and whomever.

I mentioned that I would be in Davao in a few days and would love to EAT (I MEAN MEET) her. She said, "send me some money now and I can show you more. We can chat here and you can watch me play with myself for you". I said there was no need for me to send money as I would be there in a few days. We could meet then and I would be happy to take her out and spend money on her. This did not appear to impress her. She again expressed her need for financial assistance and turned off her cam. I resumed my work.

When I got to Davao I called her from O'Flanagan's right away ( I mean her tits were awesome and I had to suck on them). She asked, "can you send me a load (funds for her cellphone). I told her I did not know how to do this (which is true) and that we had different SIM Cards (also true). She was noticiably disappointed and told me to call her later. I called her several times over the next few days offering to take her to dinner, buy her a phone card and asked her to partake of some fine Godiva Chocolates and Champagne with me. She never said NO, but she never sad YES either and we did not meet.

I NEVER met any of the women who asked me for money $$$ on any of my trips over the last two years. This includes the few I actually decided to send $ 40 - $ 75 to in advance for whatever reason (paving the way for my dick, most likey). I met eight women this last trip, including a Pro in Makati from a bar on burgos St (she was waiting around to pickup her paycheck). Of the seven regular women, not one ever asked me for money and none got any until after several days together fucking like demons. I gave one P1000 on her way home (I wanted her to go as I had another on the way). I also gave the 26 y/o P2000 for shopping one day.

Reflecting on this earlier, I realized that many women are just working the internet for money and that is all. Giving it to them or not will have no effect on them actually meeting you. From this point forward when a Filipina asks me for money on the internet, I will reply NO. If she persists, I will turn on my webcam, pull out my dick and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the lens.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

Slayer, I just read your post twice to see if perhaps there was any truth in it. There wasn't.

Now for the more interesting stuff. The guy who owns Someplace Else (now on Rizal St.) has left to go work in Cairo for 6 months or so and left his Filipina wife in charge. It's now a pretty no holds barred pick up place with maybe 6 or 7 GROs, a couple of whom are quite good looking and while it attracts some clientele, it's never too crowded. If you do not want to deal with the crush of humanity at Bar 183, or want to find a place where you can actually sit down, you might want to check it out.

Immediately across the square from Someplace Else there's a new massage parlor/healthspa that had its official opening last night. The "opening special" for an hour massage is PhP200 ($3.50), but I'm told it's a straight massage. However, of the seven or eight women who work there, two or three are good looking and one is outstanding. I'm not sure if these ladies are available for after hours fun, but I would suppose that most of them are.

One of the guys from this board called me today after landing in Cebu. He's going to come here next week for some diving and for chasing some women. For anyone else who may be here and wants to dive, we're going to go out on Saturday.

:D

GE

[Deep Diver]

DS, GE.

Guys I have been reading your alls reports for a few years now and to be honest I dont post much as I usually dont have the chance to travel as much as you guys seem to do But I usually read the forum every day or so. For me I have to import my PI girls ( sorry its a joke here in cyprus where the house maids are usually from the PI ). But one thing disturbs me is with where this is going and I have seen it in the past with you guys and that is you seem to think that any of the other members really care if the guy was 60 or 70 , hired mussel or not, or really anything other than what we are all here for and thats the information on pussy. So do us all a favor and find some where else to act like children. Stop the bickering and lets get back on topic.

[Mahku]

Calling someone a lecher in WSG? Isn't that like going to Congress and calling them all master debaters?

Anyone taking bets on when the new thread will appear, a la Mikster vs. Juniour?

[GoodEnough]

You're both correct and I apologize. This forum is not, or at least should not be about petty personal bickering, and no, I do not want a new thread.

Sorry again.

GE

[Domino]

So where are the itinerant dwarf hookers? What about sea gypsy hookers? Muslim babes? I need to know before summer.

[GoodEnough]

You have a couple of alternatives here. Either go to one of the clubs in Cotabato, and there are about four of them, or one of hte clubs in Cagayan de Oro. CDO is by far the most interesting place, but the more certain Muslim selection is in Cotabato.

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

It has been a year since the last fight here. Don't worry, I have too much going on to spend a lot of time on this Board. GoodEnough just stay away from me and my Daughter's mother. Over the last several months I have had three different guys contact me about you from this Board. I guess it is not only me who has had some very bad experiences at the hands of the lying, dwarf. Keep on lying and I may be forced to prove what I said here.

Mahku, please give up. I DO NOT want you as a friend now or ever. It is a shame you do not do good with the ladies or earn much money. Both are your fault. Now pleae do as I asked and just "find another house to haunt". If our paths do cross again as you keep telling me (gross), just move along quickly so I do not recognize you. I remember the last time I ran into you. I hope it is the last time.No more PM's to me so I can keep it open for serious inquiries from regular, good, decent men here. Maurice at O'Flanagan's still talks about you. Made quite an impression.

Dragon Slayer

[Mahku]

GE,

It wasn't a knock on you. In fact you've shown admirable restraint, only responding a couple of times to repeated attacks over several months.

I can't speak to the truth of these allegations since I wasn't there to bear witness. If what DS says is true then it's wrong and needs to be sorted out. However I also know that he said a proven lie about me on this board so that tends to taint his credibility with me. Either way it needs to be taken care of in private and not here in a public space.

Looking forward to some diving in July.

[Dragon Slayer]

GoodEnough,

This has gone far enough. Good Enough??? I do not want a war with my Friend. I suggest we meet on July 4, 2005 to resolve this matter. I have three suggested locations for this: Ground Zero at 7:00Pm in the evening; second open air bar at Rizal Street Promenade at 9:30PM or Presidential Suite at Casa Leticia at 8:00PM. In either case I assume you still have the Riedel Crystal Champagne Glasses I gave to you and can bring them along???

I do not want a War with the man who was my Pal here. Annie had me crazy last January when she made her revelations to me in a phone call around my birthday. If you are willing to sit down like Gentleman and discuss this to the Point of Final Resolution I will Promise NEVER to bring it up again here or on any WSG Board.

You can let me know if this is acceptable here. I give my word no violence will occur. Otherwise, the alternative is a continuanc of this, which takes away from my Posts and other matters.

Mahku, we can make an attempt at the impossible on a separate date in July.
This is solely for the Two of Us and No one else. You will, like the rest, have to red here to find out anything.

I came up with this Resolution over a bottle of wine. I will use wine to resolve further business matters if it proves fruitful (excuse the pun).

Dragon Slayer

[Member #1005]

Jackson

Now that the Mikster vs Juniour thread is now redundant how about moving all this shit there?

Dragon Slayer, GoodEnough & Mahku

Why don’t we take the debating society to elsewhere, no one comes here to read this. As much as it pains me deep inside, but I have to agree with DS, and say it’s best to settle this over a bottle of wine, red or white it's up to you.

Peace and out :D

Juniour

[GoodEnough]

Slayer;

Sounds reasonable to me. We can sit down at whatever venue you choose, just let me know. You have my email address and my phone numbers. I will not mention anything about it again, ever, in this forum.

See you soon.

GE

[Domino]

Where are the pygmy tribes?
Any chance of getting over to Sulu to fuck a few Muslims?
Malabalay: any fuckables here and is it reachable?
Bonbon: anyone gone diving in the underground cemetery? Any graveyard hookers there?
Marawi: Would the local mullahs object to me visiting and fucking the locals?
Fuck Central: Is Davao the best jumping off point?
Where can I go where there are no white foreigners but plenty of freaks to fuck?

[SD Dago]

I've always wanted to shag one of those broads in the balck head to toe burcas! Let's hook up and fuck our way across Mindinao! Ra!

Mulas won't object! We'll call in air striks and sort of drive the hounds to the hunters.

Seriously though! I don't think I would want to shag a Muslim girl. That stuff has got to be seriously unheigenic! At least thats the impression I have always had of it. Why else would they cover it up with a black sheet.

Anyway, my next stop is Davao! Marco Polo hotel Davao I am told is the equivalent to Waterfront in Cebu. So, thats where Daddy will be staying.

Later!

[Spam Hog]

Well fellow pervs, I guess Muzz 'Tang is as pink as any other, I wouldn't go screwing around Marawi or Sulu just yet, lots of them here in Davao who are away from home and no longer wearing the 'Malong"... seriously kinda dangerous though, I wouldn't be too forward withone, good way to get a Kris stuck in your neck.

Had a few Muzz girls in Thailand, nothing special

As far as "pygmy's" go you have several tribes here that are small

The Bagobo and Ate-ka, some of them around Davao. If you go back up on Diversion road near D' Japaense Tunnel resturaunt you will see several families, I seen some of them up there look black or negro, people refer to them as "Natibo" (Native).

[Member #1005]

SD Dago

With the greatest of respect here, you are talking out of your arse.

I guess when you have woken up and re-read what you have just written maybe you should think twice about posting nonsense when you are obviously drunk.

[SD Dago]

The gal I've been shagging down here in Cebu is involved in some sort of Import/Export operation involving used cars from Japan. Anyway, apparently they have some creative alternatives to help minimize the tax scenario at customs. Amazing what a broad will tell you when your cock is inside her. hehe

Actually, she's areally nice gal! I kind of like her. Just a bonus I guess that her boss happens to be in a line of work that could mesh nicely with some of my own ideas.

Anyway, I'm hoping to meet with him on Monday and get filled in a little more on the details of the operation. I like the idea of shipping used cars from LA to Cebu for a tidy profit.

Anyway, I will be coming to Davao straight away after the meeting to spend a week diving with GE, Spamdog, and others.

[Mahku]

Well it was in the PMs until he dragged it out into the open...

Juniour, you're one to talk after all your feuding.

Well DS the same old shot in the dark, generic insults that you give everyone else show me that you've got nothing much to say. Would I be that poor if I were bonking my way through 5 continents in the last year? The only time I had trouble getting girls was when I was around you. They seemed to disappear when I was with you, and then they were back again after you were out of the picture. What a coincidence...Food for thought to anyone who's wanting to hook up with you.

And Maurice? He's a bar owner who wants to protect his business. He'll tell you what you want to hear. But you knew that already didn't you genius? It also shouldn't surprise you that he had a few things to tell me about you when you weren't around....

Sure we can meet. I'll tell you where I am at any given time. But you have to come to me. I'm not altering my trip one bit. Mister you're mistaking my hope to get along with everyone for wanting friendship. My hope for your friendship gets further away the more I know about you. It's your own bloated ego if you think otherwise.

[Deep Diver]

There always has to be one to stir shit up and keep the fire going Enough already what does this have to do with whats going on in the town. Cause to be honest I really dont want to meet any of you you just dont do anything for me I prefer women. So lets drop the subject AGAIN and the rest of the members can find out what we are all here for and thats women not blokes. Because except for about 3 or 4 of you NO ONE CARES

[Mikster]

Mongers,

Juniour is a twit. DS is a good guy with great taste in life and great taste in women. GE is a guy I dont know. Cant comment.

I can guarantee you that any woman, if given a choice, would take DS over just about anybody, even me. That takes alot of juice from me, because I consider myself a man that women want to be with no matter pro or non-pro. I guess that guys like Juniour need to pretend to be a "boyfriend" type of guy to get any ass at all, much less pay for it. Other men, like DS and me, can get it at the drop of a hat.

I dont like Juniour. He knows it and I have asked him repeatedly to give me his plans for the future so we can meet. So has DS. He balks. Why? It's called, "bock, bock, bock, bock, says the chicken."

DS, keep giving Juniour the deal on wine and maybe one day he will understand. He likes to talk big game and then buys the chicks San Miguel. Nothing wrong with that, but he comes of as so big time and international that you would think he could come up with something better than the cheap chocalates and perfume that he buys for his AC babes. hahahaha

Later mongers.

Milkster

[SD Dago]

My Cebu girl was a real knock out and alot of fun! She's 31 years old though and had a little enhancement done.

But, last night she took me to Jaguars for a little entertainment. I sat there drinking wine with her, squeezing her big tits, and watching these hot young things stroll by in thy high boots and nothing else.

Anyway, its time for me to travel to Davao. This time I want a young hard body. Young island girl who doesn't hide form the sun and has nautural titties that you can hang a coat on. hehe

Flying Tuesday morning. Mama's hide your daughters!

Look out Davao here comes the Dago.

Nick

[J Boy]

[QUOTE=Mikster]Mongers,

Juniour is a twit. DS is a good guy with great taste in life and great taste in women. GE is a guy I dont know. Cant comment.

I can guarantee you that any woman, if given a choice, would take DS over just about anybody, even me. That takes alot of juice from me, because I consider myself a man that women want to be with no matter pro or non-pro. I guess that guys like Juniour need to pretend to be a "boyfriend" type of guy to get any ass at all, much less pay for it. Other men, like DS and me, can get it at the drop of a hat.

I dont like Juniour. He knows it and I have asked him repeatedly to give me his plans for the future so we can meet. So has DS. He balks. Why? It's called, "bock, bock, bock, bock, says the chicken."

DS, keep giving Juniour the deal on wine and maybe one day he will understand. He likes to talk big game and then buys the chicks San Miguel. Nothing wrong with that, but he comes of as so big time and international that you would think he could come up with something better than the cheap chocalates and perfume that he buys for his AC babes. hahahaha

Later mongers.

Milkster[/QUOTE

Jeez Milkster when you and Junior got your own thread to fight in I would think that was a hint to keep that crap out of here. You could have commented on DS and GE without trashing Junior for the 1000nth time.

[Domino]

Thanks for the pygmy lead. I have to strongly disagree about Muslim women; the best bjs of my life all came from those ladies. Shit, I once flew from Germany to KL for that very reason and I was not disappointed.
Also, any woman in the know will tell you Arab men write the loveliest and romantic lover letters. They must get schooled in it as no one comes near them for sheer eloquence, and style to say nothing of the ability to worm their way into a lady's panties by the pen alone. Then, they tend to treat the women like pure shit which stimimulates juices...........There has to be a cultural element to all of that.

I intend to spend about 6 weeks in Mindanao over the summer. All freak leads appreicated.

[GoodEnough]

Domino:

Wish I could tell you I knew of a place specializing in Muslim midgets (or is it midget Muslims?) but I don't. The Muslim part though is pretty easy. As I've said before, the bars in Zamboanga and Cotabato should yield you a ready supply of Muslim women. Of course the Muslim women who hang around the bars look pretty much like Indonesian bar girls. No head scarves, for sure no Burkas and nothing to distinguish them from their Christian sisters, in either looks or performance.

Asalaam Aleikum,

:D

GE

[Mahku]

Indonesia...that's the real answer if you want Southeast Asian Muslims.

The best Arab women are Lebanese, but they can often be high maintenance, and not always Muslim either.

Pakistani women have been particularly good for me, not so much in a P4P way but in ongoing relationships. They've had the hairiest snatches, though.

And East African women...could go on and on about them.

[Domino]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/4577829.stm

Thanks for the limited feedback. Guess I want somewhere I can just go wild, a kinda human zoo populated by freaky skanks. Outback Thailand has a few undiscovered paradises and I am sure Mindanao has them too.
Interesting comment about the hairy pussies. Burmese are supposed to be hairless, but not in my limited experience.
On the subject of transport: I see a Catholic bishop had to drive a getaway pick up truck for a group of bus hijackers. Am I supposed to travel to Allah land aka Zamboanga so I can get hijacked by Muslim puritans.
All I want is a few brothels full of debauched skanks who will do my bidding for a few peso. Muslims and midgets are special to me because, like Domino and pizzas, they deliver. Long range travel in Mindanao seems problematic with these hijackers/kidnappers. Still, if I thought there were great midgets at journey's end, I would travel.

[Member #1005]

Marku


The best Arab women are Lebanese, but they can often be high maintenance, and not always Muslim either.

Sorry to disagree Marku, but for my money the best Arabic women would be Jordanian and Iranians, the Lebanese are OK but not for me.

As I said to SD Dago in a pm, I want to go to Tehran to “unleash the dragon.”

[Spam Hog]

Okay, ya want midgets, anthropological interests? Take a little trip up diversion road past the Japanese tunnel resturaunt in Davao, you will see the remnants of the Bagobo tribe and a band of "negritos", Bagobo are very small in stature and very dark. These negritos I often see begging by the side of the road, they have almost negroid features, are very dark and have sort of kinky hair. (They are very poor, my heart goes out to them, filipino are distainful of them)

I almost hit one of them a few weeks ago, when she saw a foreigner driving a little truck (me) she jumped out in front of me, hands out and waving. If you go north of Calinan, you will see more "natibo" Natives or lumads. These are the Mandaya tribe and the Ate-Ka, very dark, somewhat thick set with a tendancy to be rather square or squarish bodies, I would describe a few of the girls as dark, thick hair and legs and wrists "thick as a nuns ankles".

Now for some perv stuff:

You guys ever fantasize whats UNDER those burka robes the Muzz girls wear? I see some of them here in the PI (its called full Pradah) but most of the Muzz girls wear the Malong head scarf. (I have heard of a few of them going away to school in like cebu or Manila, dropping the scarf and going a little wild, but my advise is to avoid Muslim girls, that will get you killed).

Anyhow, it would be cool if you lifted the burkas and found they are all wearing day glow thongs and victoria secret type lingerie. (Spamhogs personal favorite is the garter belts and stockings)

The few Muzz girls I have had were all in Thailand, some were pretty wild too
they had a rep of doing some kinky stuff.

Spamhog

[Wastrel]

Okay, ya want midgets, anthropological interests?There is also a band of Negritos near the old Clark AFB outside of Angeles City. Very startling appearance to me that I wasn't expecting there. I was told by some local Philipinos I was with who should know what they're talking about that they don't like to be bothered by outsiders, so I didn't.

[X Man]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but I don't think you'll be able to make any money sending used cars out of LA.

In Japan, they have a very severe and very expensive inspection system (shaken), which makes it cheaper to go ahead and get a new car after about five years or so. Those used cars get sold in Russia and Philippines and who knows where else.
http://bigdaikon.com/mystory-20030305.shtml

Anyway, looking forward to your trip reports. Don't forget to take your camera!

[Snake12]

The Negritos were savage jungle fighters. Thank goodness that during WWII they were on our side. At the conclusion of WWII, they were given total access to Clark AB. They even had rights at the hospital. I remember seeing them near the BX giving demonstrations in the use of their blow guns. The question was, "What do you call a Negrito with his blow gun?" Ans. "Sir". Damn they were accurate with those things. Many helped to train GIs at the Jungle Survival School at Clark. Enough ancient history for today. Now for Modern history, where in PI is the best action?

Stay safe.

Snake

[Spam Hog]

Gentlemen, i gotta post you this one since we're on a wierd, " only inthe pHilippines" mode here.

Stopped in to talk to Marice at O'Flanaghans, was reading a day old Mindano times when I run a croos this sotry, this is only an except, I searched for it on the Minda web site but didn't see it

POLICE OFFICER ARRESTED FOR EATING BOMB SNIFFING DOG

the text described how a Davao police officer had been arrested for cruelty to animals under republic act such and such, his wife reported him for eating the K-9 assigned to him. I would love to know the story behind the story on this so I will be doing follow up with a few of my contacts.

Honey ko, what's in this adobo?

Spamhog

[Mahku]

Domino,

I'll be able to report on Burmese hairlessness as I'll be there last next month. I've already scoured what little info there is in the Burma thread. Anyone who has recent info will be appreciated. I haven't been there since '96.

Spam Hog,

They DO wear some wild stuff under their abayas (like burkas). You can sometimes see the outline of the lingirie on the more daring girls.

Juniour,

I agree that Iranians are good but they aren't Arabs. Jordanians are ok but not as liberated as the Lebanese. Jordananians aren't always so stuck up however. You may have a better time of it searching for Iranian women in Dubai than in Iran itself.

[Domino]

Some of the gallant Japanese Imperial forces in Mindanao have just surrendered. Yoshio Yamakawa, aged 87, and Tsuzuki Nakauchi, aged 85, have decided to call it a day. Reiichi Sakurai, aged 93, is in it for the long haul and is not coming out. There are maybe more than 50 of them holed up around Geeneral Santos in Mindanao Island. Looks like they were holed up with Muslim separatists and bonking their women. Maybe a wiser move than hanging out with the Negritas who might be good fucks but nasty with a blow pipe.
While I was running my hand up this Malaysian chick's dress today, she was telling me that headhunting cultures remain strong in Borneo. Is it the same there? Between Muslim separatists and under sized blow piping Dirty Harrys, gotta be careful. Are there some really slutty places in Davao far from the madding crowd but not so far that I end up living in a hamlet surrounded by randy pigs for the next 60 years.
Hairless Burmese pussy: Mae Sai is a good bet. I posted on Thailand, Other Sections.

Spam Hog: I like stories like that;)

[Spam Hog]

Domino, I can see we are going to have to sit down over a beer if you ever get to Davao and have a serious dicussion, seems that we share many interests, WW2 is Spamhogs favorite (But bald pussies is way up there, I will have to tell you about the infamous 'Buri Rham Baldie' one often sees (lierally!) on the dusky delightful maidens of that region since you are familar with Thailand) of course lost tribes and strange anthropological anomalys often capture my interest, why else live in the RP?

Jap holdouts: Much as I would like to beleive this one, sorry. Another hoax in one of many, the Jap holdout stories have been getting lots of mileage along with the Yamashita treasure stories ever since Lt. Oneida-san emerged from his jungle hideout in the Phils in 1972, last year some Japanese 'researcher' made international news with his revelation that he had discovered a whole community of JAI holdouts who had gathered up trucks, guns and moved into the jungle to take up with native women back in the old days, they had sired children and grandchildren and lived near Antipolo in a fortified community & still wore the old uniforms and carried the akira 6.2, blah, blah, blah etc. turn out to be a fake.

What is not fake is the stories of headhunting and cannibalism, did you know that the JAI troops retreating from Davao thru Bukidnon ate 80 some people?
True, there is a book out in Phil bookstores by an eyewitness who was a child and escaped.

Headhunters in Mindanao have long been documented since the time of the spanish the Abu Sayeff who are decended from Yakan and Tausig peoples have been headhunters before Islam ever reached the islands, same with some interior tribes in Mindanao. It is rumored that several local Guerrilla units executed JAI troops and preserved their heads as trophies during the war.

Of course one still hears rumors, I can tell you of a sword fighting cult that exists called "dhat dhat Ghun" in the Kidapawan region, supossedly if a challenger defeats a champion he has the right (but not the obligation) to take his head.

My take on some of the Holdout stories, a few old Japs overstayed their visas, and are trying to cash in on it, of course who wouldn't want to live in a nipa hut and plonk 'native' girls.

Hey darlin', what you got under that grass skirt?

Enjoy!

Spamhog

[GoodEnough]

Guys:

School starts again here in about a week, and the students are returning in droves. The tuition hawks are out in force, and balance has been restored to the Davao scene. These girls are all over the place, and there are large concentrations hanging out in and near Rizal Promenade, looking for the money needed for registration. For those thinking of coming here for a mongering vacation, this is an ideal time to hop a plane.

The return of the ladies in white may account for the fact that last night at least, there were, if not multitudes, then throngs of women on Quirino around where that street intersects Rizal. These ladies were by far the most attractive I've ever seen here on the streets. My guess is that these girls had struck out at Bar 183 and Swigs and the other Rizal hang outs, and decided to try their luck trolling on the avenue. I don't know for how long this will keep up, but for the moment, it's a great drive thru.

:D

GE

[Domino]

SH: It look a pity that these Japanese soldiers seem to have died a long time ago. (I thought old soldiers never died). I too am very interested in the record of the Japanese PKOs in the Phils from 41-45. All the locals seemed to have hated them and it seemed to have been open season on head hunting from Japanese bodies. The Yamashita gold is also interesting but one wonders why they did not take the big gold Buddha statues from Burma.
Buriram is a good spot in the Phils and I have posted on its charming skanks on several occasions. I found the women in Davao really pretty but the Wild West down there does appeal to me but not at the cost of my head ending up on a pike.

[Spam Hog]

Dom: My research shows most of the so called Yamashita gold was taken from Singapore Chinese and local chinese not too many Buddhas in the Philippines, but the legend persists. Personally, I think the legendary buddha was not that big of a deal but perhaps was pedigreed, possibly from a temple in Southern Malaysia or Singapore and moved here that is what the fuss is all about.

Anyhow, it is very unlikely your head would end up on a pike, unless of course you took an unescorted boat trip to tawi tawi or something.

And GE is right, the girls are rolling in here by the bus load, literally, I saw a whole new crop downtown today, girls in from the provinve, first time in the big city you can tell they way they stare at a "foreigner" cute boobs on a couple of 'em.

Spamhog

[GoodEnough]

The Horizon bar/disco, right around the corner from O'Flannigans is open again after a hiatus of several months. We drove place the place this evening, and it was full. Live music, lots and lots of people and scads of women on their own. This place is about a two minute walk from Maurice's and near both the Apo View and the Casa Leticia.

Enjoy!

GE

[X Man]

Spam hog,

You mean they were staring even more than the regular davao people???

G-rated pics attached in area of the large mosque.

BTW, what is a good response for "hey joe".

[Cebu Local]

Kamusta???Thats Hello in Filipino

[X Man]

Thanks Cebu local,

That's so obvious I didn't think of it. Acutally, I was looking for something clever and maybe smartass, but "kumusta" would be a good one to use.

Basically, I respond with a smile when in a good mood and just ignore it when I'm tired.

Hey, my name ain't joe.

...of course it isn't x man either.

[W Hunter]

Nick,

We trust you are having a damn good time down there. We are quite envious of you! Do have much much more fun. Remember how crappy it is up here. Please post more.

Take care,

Steve K and his buddy from work, Walt.

[GoodEnough]

I met him a couple of times here. Of course, I cannot speak for him, but he sure looked like he was having fun.

GE

[Spam Hog]

Well gentlemen,

The ladies are out in force, as GE says the core area is filling up with 'em, Mrs Spamhog was in my company last night as we left OFlannighans after a meatloaf special, the spamhog saw lots of lovelies, and lots of Bayots. Thats what they call guys in drag, there was a whole platoon of them walking down by Casa Leticia, now most of 'em wouldn't fool the drunkest drunk, (maybe they would) but just a warning beware any "female" made up too much, this bunch looked like a herd of clowns from the circus but I've seen a few before that could fool you due to small bodies, fine bones etc.

At least they aren't as bad as Thailand, where even if you check the plumbing you can get a post op 'er.

Spamhog

[W Hunter]

If you happen apon our buddy Nick A, do let him know we are EXTREMELY jealous. Steve said he won't even get away with a local trip, much less a trip to the PI. As he should well know, there are a lot to choose from there and I am sure he taking full advantage of the selection. Do allow (force?) him to do more and varied things. Doing the same one or thing over and over will get boring. I know. So help him along towards an awsome time or two or many!

Thanks,

His buddies in SD

[Spam Hog]

Sad to report that this story has surfaced in Davao, you can read it in Mindano times front page, was allover the news last night.

Apparently some foreigner, (variously reported as Argentine, Dutch or Netherlands) was at the Waterfront Insular with some 22 YO cutie from Caganyan de Oro, a Nursing student(HMMMMMMMM?) so the TV said when he had the "big one" he was apparently "in the saddle" when it happened.

Talk about being screwed to death, seriously, I dont like to make jokes but
that would be my choice of a way to go if it was my time.

I was a bit concerned that this bimbo might have given him a knock out drink then intent on getting his cash, that practise is common in Thailand and the same results, guys get too much of dosage and die hope they don;t start the same in the RP, but it looks like a legitimate heart attack at this point, I'll keep ya posted if it develops into anything else

[GoodEnough]

I have posted this news elsewhere as well, but I think it's worth repeating here. I don't know if it's the perrenial influx of students, declining economic conditions or an increase in my own observational powers, but it seems to me that the street scene here is improving dramatically. Last night we ate on Rizal Street, as we often do, and again I noticed, as I had the week before, the reasonably large number of seriously good looking SWs on Rizal. I'm not talking about the fashionable, often middle class habitues of Bar 183 or Swig, but girls who were out on the streets trolling for men.

Street walkers have always been abundant here, but never before (at least that I've noticed) on Rizal, and never before have there been such good looking women. You can still see the same hardbitten types around Illustre and the Apo View, but these ladies are of a different calber, at least in looks.

The Davao street scene is definitely looking up, at least for now.

I have also noticed a steady trickle of adorable young things flowing into the Red Bar, on Rizal Street from about 9 or 10 onwards on Friday and Saturday evenings. I do not think these girls are pros, but they're definitely on the look out to judge from the smiles my friends and I get from them. In fact, if you sit at one of the outdoor tables, you can easily observe all of the action at Some Place Else, and the various bars such as the Iron Horse, and 7th Avenue. Pickings in this area are generally very good on the week ends, and you can avoid the claustrophobic nature of the large crowds elsehwhere on Rizal St. Even after the large quantity of rain we had here yesterday afternoon, the girls in this area proved undeterred.

:D

GE

[GoodEnough]

I had not made a tour of the dance clubs/girlie bars here in Davao in months, and had not planned to make one again, but we had a friend in town who asked us to accompany him, and so we did. The scene has changed a great deal since the last time I reported on it, so I thought you guys might be interested in what some of the places are like now. Here are my impressions of the places we went listed in the order in which we visited.

1. Hot Legs - This was always my favorite girlie bar. The girls were young, and mostly cute, the management was friendly, and there was a sort of "it's all in good fun" attitude about the place. Sad to say, this is no longer true. First, there's a new crew of women, not nearly as good looking as the prior gang. Second, the coquettish strip teases are gone. No, the girls appear semi-comatose, barely move to the blaring music and unenthusiastically get down to bra and panties. True. every now and then one of the girls will drop her bra for a second or two, but I found myself almost wishing that she wouldn't bother.

We stayed through the shower show, which went on about 11. The girl on stage was bar far the cutest in the place, seemed to have fun with the routine, and strolled through every part of the audience offering various horny (but also embarrassed) guys to wash her pussy. She too though was dressed in bra and panties, though she did flip the panties off for about 30 seconds to do some acrobatics with the pole.

For the most part though, the girls were indifferent, not very good looking, and the place is not worth a second glance.

2. Clappers, right off Rizal St., is a sort of fairly upscale KTV/pick up bar place. It's attractive, with a large bar area downstairs, very few customers, and about a half dozen women, about half of whom were reasonably cute. Upstairs, the place is divided into several VIP rooms and looks somewhat like a floor in a hotel. The rooms are decently furnished, large, and clean with locks on the doors. The minimum charge for the room and the girl is PhP1,500 which is "consumable." The guy who runs the place also offers a "come in, pick up and take out" service for any of the girls. I did not ask him the price because my friend was not interested.

Given its close proximity to Rizal and Bar 183 (packed tonight) and Swigs (also packed), this is not a bad place to come between bars, or if you strike out on Rizal.

3. Visa is a club that's been open about two years, and it's located behind Victoria Plaza just of Bajada. Like Clappers, this is a combination pick up bar and karaoke, with a large, top shelf bar downstairs, which also features a keyboard player, a vocalist, and substantial audience participation. The atmosphere is very laid back and there's no pressure at all. Upstairs are all the VIP/Karaoke rooms. I think the minimum here is PhP2,000 which is also consumable. Since the booze is all top shelf, the minimum should not take long to drink up. Two or three of the dozen or so women were extremely cute, but most were fairly average looking.

Tonight, about half the VIP rooms were taken and there were six or eight customers in the bar downstairs. This is a pleasant place to have a drink, pick up a girl and either leave or take her upstairs.

4. Karaokan is almost identical to Visa, and is diagonally across the parking lot. The atmosphere, the women and the physical set up are much the same and there's nothing much to choose between them.

5. Moonlight used to have the best atmosphere and the ugliest women in Davao. what a difference a few months make! The bar is under new ownership, and is now run by a Swiss German guy named Hans and his Filipina wife, named Marci.

In my opinion, this is still the best looking bar of its type in Davao. The music is terrific, ample and soft. The wood bar has been replaced by a pink marble bar which is great looking. The new owners have added five well-furnished cubicles, all replete with tables, large sofas and a reasonable amount of privacy. The larger VIP room is still there and large enough to accommodate a party of six or eight people.

What's really new though is the entirely new crew of women, about half of whom are seriously good looking. What's also new is a small dancing platform on which the girls start to perform at about midnight. All the girls danced topless and a couple went on without bottoms. Our friend hooked up with a lady named Nicole who was in the 8.5-9 range and had a great personality. All in all, this was a great way to end the night. The bar fine (girl included) is still PhP2,000 and it's a bargain, given the current selection. The place is still no hassle/no pressure and the ladies drinks are actually alcoholic beverages. There's also a new bartender named Cheryl who is seriously good looking, but I do not know if she is available for customers.

For those of you who have not been back there in a while, it's worth checking out.

:D

GE

[J Boy]

GE
You said "I think the minimum here is PhP2,000 which is also consumable." I'm not really familiar with that phrase but it seems to mean your drinks come out of the 2000p. Would that include LDs?

[GoodEnough]

Jboy:

Yes, everything gets charged against the PhP2,000. The ladies can share whatever it is you're drinking, and alot of people apparently order bottles of their favorite liquor and then share the bottle with the girls.

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I hope to be here eventually, meaning soon. I should have listened to my Father and married rich. Having to work gets in the way of my pussy hunting. Now Maurice (O'Flannagan's Pub) wants me to bring an american flag for him to hang in the pub. I told him to get some pussy hanging around the place like it used to be. I have enough with the champagne I am taking along to keep the pussy "oiled".

Been prioritizing my life. Decided pussy is still high on the List but have to consider a few other items. Anyway I will be back here when I get here. The lovely, big breasted lady politician down here chatted with me on YM a few nights ago. Surprised me as she said in Davao that we were too different culturally to continue. Anyway, she wants to see me in Davao now. She was one of the best fucks I ever had and very low maintenance. In two days/nights I took her for lunch at O'Flannagan's, drinks at Ground Zero (my convenience store hangout on corner of J Camus/Illustre Sts) and champagne in my Suite. Fucked her six times but who's counting?? Got a great blowjob also.

My honey, the former nightclub entertainer in Nagoya, Japan left me messages on YM yesterday. Wants to join me in Davao again. I told her fine. Beautiful, sweet lady and a lovely set of tits on her 25 y/o body. Doesn't hurt that she loves to fuck.

Heard from one of the internet "models" from Davao yesterday. I posted on them in early May. This one showed me her lovely set of d cup tits on the webcam from a cafe in Davao last April but got pissed off when I would not send her money for a "nude showing". I was leaving in 36 hours on my trip. When in Davao she would not meet me. Now, she has changed her mind and will stay with me. At least this is the latest story. I took a photo of her rack last April and I reviewed it the other day. She is definitely gorgeous with A rated tits.

Met two other lovely Davao ladies on the internet recently. Have their phone numbers and both say they want to hook up with me in Davao. See what happens and if I have time. I am leaving my options open but a lovely, "sure thing" is still a lovely "sure thing". I will fly in alone from whatever City I wind up in after HK & China.

I took some photos in O'Flannagan's Pub last May. They came out great and I will try to Post a few here. Maurice said he got them and sounded happy. I had a few of him enlarged to a size for framing and sent them off to him. I have nudes of several of my Davao ladies from last trip also. Will not post any of the lady politician for obvious reasons. Regular photos of the nightclub entertainer are included with the ones I sent to Maurice in case any guys get to O'Flannagan's.

Last April 30, a saturday, I was at Rizal Promenade from 9:00PM -12:00PM. I sat at one of the openair bars there but the situation was not promising. I was too early to begin as people did not arrive until 10:00PM. There were women there but far more young men hanging around than ladies. I think with the place staying open until 05:00AM, it is likely to get better in the late hours. I will show up here a night or two.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Read my last Post and need to add/amend. I telephoned Maurice to let him know I got his american flag. Don't want some guy from this board going in and telling him I could not be bothered. Maurice is a great guy. He has the distinction of being the ONLY person EVER to hook me up with a woman (any woman) where I got fucked (literally, not figuratively). It was the lovely 22 y/o Apple in Davao whom he introduced me to last May 2004. She was lovely and sweet and very low maintenance. Other than that instance I have had to locate all of my pussy on my own.

No one on this Board needs my advice but I have met almost all the women I ever knew, including the most gorgeous ladies I ever knew when alone. This is one of many reasons why I will be hanging solo in Davao for the duration.

Davao has certainly grown up over the nine years I have been going here 4-6 times annually. More hotels, more decent Clubs and more lovely pussy coming in from the Provinces in search of men and money. When I first began coming here Apo View Hotel was considered the best hotel. The only CLubs for women were places like Galeras, Hot Legs, Itmes and Honeys in downtown Davao. All of which are dive bars and rip offs, at least as far as westerners are concerned.

One of my favorite things about Davao is that many places are open late at night. Being a late night person, I like to be able to get out and hang at places like the convenience store (open to 02:00), Rizal Promenade (till 05:00 on weekends) and several little places where you can get a drink, something to eat and "pussy to go" or just to chat with while eating/drinking in the late night. The prices here for everything are far better than Manila. Last May I spent 10 nights in Makati and I can accurately state that everything there is at least 50% more than in Davao. Drink prices and bar fines are at least double.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

One of my ladies in Davao.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Maurice said, "Slayer that is one beautiful lady you have there". Here is a photo.

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

My reply to Maurice's compliment was "she is one of those rare ladies who looks lovlier with her clothes off".

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I have not read Posts here since my last reports in early May. Had a problem with one guy stalking me here and setting world records for PMs (all insults and harassment) to me. Even more than GE ever sent (GE's were not insults or harassment). So, I stayed away. But then, why should I let this pathetic, little fuck keep me off the Davao Board?? I took this from 12 Posts EVER to as many as 50 in a single week. I mean the guy made exactly one (1) trip to Davao after reading Posts by myself and GoodEnough and now he thinks he is someone???

Anyway enough on detritus. I spoke here in January of my young Nephew, Ex Army Rangers Special Forces (still wants a talk with GE about French Foreign Legion kicking butt on US SF). He is a 5 year veteran of NYPD Blue. Followed in our Family Law Enforcement tradition ( I was a ___ for 3 1/2 yrs.). He was stabbed by a druggie 2 weeks ago in Brooklyn, NY during a routine arrest. At 6'5", 220# he did not even think to shoot the cocksucker. To make mattters worse, the shithole stabbed him with his IV needle.

Talked to the kid for several hours by phone. He was hospitalized, released and now must undergo massive anti-HIV drug medication for ??? THe druggie tested negative but with druggies they take no chances. Of course druggie is NOW all apologetic, claiming an accident and being "very cooperative".

My comment was, "why in the name of ___ didn't you shoot the dick once at close range 2 inches below the navel???? Instead, you beat the shit out of him while bleeding all over him!!! Did a half assed job of it at that as I heard the dick is walking around inside his jail cell now.

Kid called me late tonight on my cellphone. He is still coming with me to Davao. It will be a great trip. I am holding off on re-booking for confirmation on his medical check-up in a few days. Contrary to belief. OUR US Special Forces ARE one very very tough bunch of "motherfuckers". Anyone thinking different can take it up with the two of us in Davao shortly. Personally, i would suggest staying home and watching tv.

Another photo of one of my Davao ladies.

Dragon Slayer

[Amadeuss]

ifor those of you who have not been back there in a while, it's worth checking out.
gesorry if i disturb the monologues of some of you davao-experts. i do have simply a down-to-earth-question after scrolling through more then 300 previous messages here on the board:

1) in cebu, where i travel 3-4 times a year, i stay at holiday plaza for 1100 ps. any similar hotel in davao?

2) when i visited davao 7 years ago, the area next to apo viel hotel was full of streetwalkers. apparently it is clean now. any other area comparable to jakosalem in cebu?

3) i'm an old men and wanna be in the hay latest at 10:00. are there any joints / places to pick up gals at daytime or late afternoon?

4) anyone knows a scuba-diving operator operating fm davao?

thanks mates for any inpout and again sorry for disturbing your little controversies.

oh yeah, my regular in cebu. have a peep.

[Frequent Flier]

Hello DS,

I had to compliment you on your pics. After many post we get to see some of the flesh you have been consuming. I missed some of the pictures you posted a long time ago and I'm to lazy to search. I know you stated other reasons for not posting pics, but I could definitely see why if you were keeping these girls under wraps. Very nice. Like myself, I can only guess that you are keeping the even better looking ones for yourself.

Hope your Nephew comes out of his ordeal a OK. Remind him of the saying about what happens to a man that brings a knife, or in this case a needle, to a gun fight. Hope he uses the gun next time for his sake and others. Men and women in those type of jobs do not get near enough credit.
A good friend of mine just shot dead a crazy guy in Syracuse, NY a few months ago after a 20 hour stand off. Better the crazy guy then my friend and he knows it, as well as his wife and little daughter. There were there police men that shot at the guy when he decided he was going to fight it out. After the autopsy it was determined that the crazy guy took four bullets. The interesting thing was that all four bullets were from my friends gun, The other two police men missed entirely. Good thing he was there or the other two guy might have been injured or dead now instead of the crazy guy.

I agree with your solitude policy of mongering. I enjoy mongering company at times, but the overall experience is better when alone and that is especially true when in the Philippines. I know you have different reasons for this, but for me I find the girls respond with more affection and are willing to play a little more nasty while they are still in the bars when I am alone with them. Weather in a group of girls or just one girl.

I mainly play in Makati and sometimes in Angeles City. I hope to sample the rare good of Davao on my next trip and I promise plenty of pictures to document my exploits. Just like you I also have other business matters that have kept me from Asia for way to long, but I hope to have those settled and be back in China, Hong Kong, Thailand and the wonderful Philippines in a few months.

I'm sure I am missed by all the ladies on P. Burgos street, but even more so by the owners of the bars on P. Burgos street. haha

Good mongering.

FF

[Gzono]

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[Spam Hog]

I would like to talk to your nephew and have him do me the honor of buying the man a meal or a beer, perferably both x army ranger and NYPD to boot
this from a guy retired from "the job".

Spamhog

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Nice to hear from you. To anyone inteested in Davao, keep in mind that O'Flannagan's Pub on Illustre St (around corner from Casa Leticia on J Camus St) is good for obtaining information, news of Davao and Clubs for hitting the ladies. Maurice is an expert on the last item. I called Maurice the other night. He was in good spirits and told me he has my photos of Him (who else??) hanging on the wall in there.

Spamhogs, I will pass your kind words on to my nephew. I got caught up with work the past few days but with July 4 fast approaching, it has slow down. I am going to try to include more photos of ladies here. I do have a few you can contact such as the "infamous" Maribelle in Cebu and I will look for Real Jean Tejada's phone number in Davao. She was the one in many Posts last August '04 (read back). You guys are welcome to try your luck with either lady. If I can locate the others' phone numbers I will let you know.

For some reason it takes me a long time to upload photos I have scanned onto the WSG sight. But before I could not load many without resizing them and ruining the quality. To be honest I did not think anyone was interested in seeing these photos. I have 1000's but just kept them in stacks in closets. The ones here this week all are from my May '05 Trip.

I want to keep my Posts small so I will add more Posts for Frequent Flyer and Botaki6. Try to include a photo from May '05 with each Post. I got chatting briefly late last night with one of the two new Davao ladies I met on the internet. This one got on webcam for about 2 minutes. She is 22 and definitely carrying the "Rack of Gibraltar". Two of the biggest, lovliest tits I have had the privilege of viewing. Says she is waiting for me in Davao Hope this is accurate (often it is not, sadly).

The photo I am hoping to successfully loid now is of the 25 y/o girl who flew unexpectedly after I called her on my cellphone one Saturday at Noon while having a few beers with Maurice at O'Flannagan's Pub.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

A webcam photo of the 22 y/o Davao "Rack of Gibraltar".

Dragon Slayer

[Amadeuss]

...O'Flannagan's Pub on Illustre St (around corner from Casa Leticia on J Camus St)
more Posts for Frequent Flyer and Botaki6. ......Assume that Casa Leticia is a good choice to stay. How does it compare with the Apo? Are both in walking dist. to Rizal?

Can't find a good street map on Davao - any webpage?

Thanks mate.

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Ok, back from starting off the July 4 weekend here. Damn shame I have to work tomorrow.

Apo View Hotel is directly parallel from Casa Leticia. it is about 70 meters from it on the opposite side of J Camus St. The divider makes it hard to spot one Hotel from the other.

Botaki6, your questions in whatever order:

4) Henny runs a dive company in Davao City. Met him at O'Flannagan's (where the fuck else?) 2 years ago. A good guy. He owns the french/continental restaurant in D/T Davao called "le Bonte Eclue" (sure I got it wrong). Maurice can get you there. He goes on weekends and he is good. I like his restaurant also on Rizal St. in a hidden quarter.

Ray Jr, Owner's son at Casa Leticia can get you set up for Pearl Farm also for great diving. Check out Davao Tourism for this or just ask young Ray. I met him 6 years ago with his father in the rooftop CLub at Casa Leticia. They own the Hotel, Hanoi Restaurant, Sturu Restaurant and the Club Toto's In Casa Leticia.

1) Marco Polo is way out of your price range. Apo View is still in there but Casa Leticia is much nicer. I think a standard room cost me P 1300 last May. The Hotel was fully booked as I mentioned but they got me in and that was all that they had. It was quite nice with a wet bar, nice beds, cable tv, modern bathroom with nice bathtub and good views from the windows.

2) What Posts have you been reding here? Streetwalkers are all over D/T Davao like lice on a mangy dog.From 7:00PM to 04:00AM they are everywhere and many at Ground Zero and on Illustre St.

3) Now this is the tough one. Can anybody help me out??? I am a night person and I slay dragons at night. Ground Zero (corner convenience store at J Camus & Illustre Sts.) gets going with nurses and college girls at 7:00PM. I met the semi-pro Realjean at 8:00PM one night last August (fucked her 19 y/o body for days). Rizal Promenade, Venue Plaxa and the Clubs do not get going until 10:00PM as Posted here many times. Ground Zero stays open until 02:00AM with live music and waiters for the tables and it gets sleazier by the hour but great pussy none the less. I never had any problems here ever in over 50 visits.

I also Post in Hong Kong and southern china and occasionally in Toronto. No I live thousands of miles from Toronto, but where the beautiful, lovely asina pussy goes, Slayer follows.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I was with her last April '05. I will write a long Post about thislater and include some serious nudes. Spent five days with her and fucked her 18 times. Six times from 9:00Pm to 06:AM in the morning the first night. Ya I know how could I/ Weel had not had any for a few months (since January) due to work. She is young, beautiful and a "great fuck". Viagra helped also but she did most of it.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Botaki asked about walking to Rizal St from Apo View or Casa leticia. This can be done but would be best from Apo View. You must cross over J Camus and this gets very heavy with traffic in the evening. A taxi is P20 from Casa Letica as I took this route many times.

I still have no set agenda for my next Trip other than to get here. I will be in Hong Kong and southern china first, meeting ladies from the internet. My "Shanghai Baby" (see Posts from Sep"04 on) took ill and left Shanzhen for her Province of Sichuan. She is not from Shanghai but has the same name and similar appearance as girl in Zhou Wei Hui's famous novel "Shanghai Baby". She has now had time to think about her life and decided we should get married and refuses to see me unless I agree. Yes, I could Lie but I would eventually have to suffer a ton of grief.

I have met many new ladies in China and quite a few in Hong Kong, concentrating primarily on chinese women rather than the much easier OCW's from the Phils in HK. The latter only get Sunday off. On previous trips I have met and fucked a few of them but they invariably arrive around 10:00AM and depart by 8:00PM the same night. Chinese ladies can come and go as they please and many of them are sweet and very very horny. Besides for filipinas we have Cebu and Davao where you can find all you need.

In Davao I have several new ladies whom I hope to meet. I also have four from my last Trip still interested. So it should be fun. I will make final arrangements this long Holiday weekend and then book hotel reservation in advance for each city.

I have photos of my lovely honey who flew into Davao last May without her hands covering her tits and some of her completely nude. I need to resize them as they are too big to fit here. Tried the other night but I was not successful. Still here is another photo of her.

Dragon SLayer

[Amadeuss]

Pals,

Botaki asked about walking to Rizal St from Apo View or Casa leticia. Dragon SLayerMate,

Thanks for your good infos!

Have 2 gals in waiting and perhaps need two hotels to shuffle around. One is overly jealous, a nurse, 22, met her in Cebu when she was visiting the family. She is telling that she is still a virgin, but well, who knows how long :-)

The Casa might be my prime choice. But as a second recluse...
Apo View is on the net with 4000 Ps/night. Anyone knows the local rate?

Anyone stayed in the Waterfront Insular? Offered for 48.-$, seems to have a nice pool and location.

Will be there as from 12th July.

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I just got home from a Saturday lunch meeting with a Client of my Firm and a trip to the Post Office. Now I have the rest of the July 4th Holiday free. I was up late last night chatting with chinese women aged 22 - 31. All I just met in chinese chat rooms. This can be fun even if you are married or lack the funds for a Trip to Asia.

By the way, last Trip in May '05 I was heading home via Hong Kong and met an American in his late 60's (looked it easy). He was making his second (and final hopefully) Trip into southern china. Had secured a double entry VISA(no way in heaven he would EVER get an "open entry" VISA). He could NOT speak one fucking word of mandarin and he could barely walk (suffered from parkinson's AND osteoarthritis of the knees).

NONE of this stopped this guy from making his journey to be with his fiance in Nanning. He was even going to sleep and hang at the HK Airport for 30 hours to save $$ while waiting for his flight to Nanning (Slayer told him too late about van to SHenzhen and bus to Nanning (or much cheaper flight from Shenzhen). Not withstanding, this intrepid, old guy was amazing. 99% would just lay home in bed complaining. This guy, lacking significant funds and in pain, was going 9,000 miles for a gorgeous chinese woman. FUCKING GREAT!.

Now what the fuck is the "excuse" of any other guys??? If he can do it, anyone can. Save the fucking, "I am having difficulties" or "my mother says no" for someone who gives a shit.

This is NOT a china Board but so what! I want my Pals to see what the Slayer has MET in China. First, my Coco, a travel agent, who flew to Shenzhen (her expense, not mine) to be with me in Feb '04. I have full nudes of her that need resizing. Spoke with her last night and plan to meet again. My Shanghai Baby has kept me away from meeting other ladies in china in '05.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

BTW Coco (photos last Post) was the subject of a couple of my "Champagne Posts" here in early '05 (read back). She is 29 and lovely adn I met her through "lookchina.com"

Here are webcam shots of married women in china I chat with (and call on phone) often in china. I plan to meet all of them if my Shanghai Baby holds firm to her "no marry, no pussy". here is J in china, aged 30 takes over several different occasions during cyber sex sessions. Speaks only a little english but my chinese is enough to coomunicate. I posted one of her pussy shots earlier here in this section. Met chatting on the net a year ago.

Dragon Slayer

[Cebu Local]

Hi
Why dont you join the China boards??I also have a special Shanghai friend visiting me in October in Cebu.But I have been posting on the China boards about my adventures.Your pics look great to post on the China Photo gallery.Personally I have switched from Filipinas to Chinese.But each to his own tastes

[Harvey WB]

I like the Apo View, but I would never pay P4K, never. You might as well get a deal at Marco Polo, I believe it's a much nicer place, but I've never stayed there.

Check out Cebu Pacific partners- 3 years ago the Apo was P1K with Cebu Pacific ticket or their Summit Club Card, which you could get from ticket office or on the flight. It has gone up, but shouldn't be more than P1,100. The Apo will kick you out after a few nights if they have a convention going on, but I've spent 10 nights there on the promo. A bargain at P1K, but I don't think I would pay P1.5K, would rather stay someplace else. Try the in room massage, ask for "Bing", I think it's P500/HR + Tip.

[GoodEnough]

I do not like tne Apo View as I do not believe that the owners have spent more than $5 on maintenance over the past ten years. The last time I was there, the odor of mildew was pervasive. There is no way this place should cost more than Casa Leticia. The best deal though, may be the PhP2,400 per night at the Marco Polo which is available if you fly Cebu Pacific into Davao. Cebu advertises the rate on its flights here, and all you need is a boarding pass to present on check in.

I spoke with Raymundo and Nenang, the owners of the Casa Leticia the other night, when I saw them at Henny's restaurant, De Bonte Koe. They say that the remodeled club, Toto's, at their hotel, is doing great business.

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Cebu Local I do Post on china boards. I have NOT been posting much here lately as I had an "idiot stalker" making my lfe miserable whenever I put a Post in Davao. I had made at least a dozen Posts in HK and So China during this time. I spend more time in both places than in the Phils. also. I like that I NEVER see any foreigners in China (just tons of lovely chinese women).

In the past year I have stayed at five (5) separate Davao Hotels. I prefer Casa Leticia for many reasons, including location. Marco Polo has the best "room service" (great food at good prices until 02:00AM) and a great buffet until 4:00PM (I think) and a nice lounge opening at 5:00PM. The location is not good and I do not care for the lack of personal treatment I am accustomed to in Hotels elsewhere in the world.

Apo View quotes P1600 ($ 29.60US) and it will discount at least 10% more if you negotiate and plan to stay a week or longer. Best feature of Apo View is the "Liquids" nightclub in the ground floor and the massage. But beyond this it is not much. The place Maurice referred me to last April upon my arrival in Davao without a reservation was 2 blocks down from O'Flannagan's. I got a Suite for P1800 and it was scarely larger than the master bathroom in my home back here. I can only imagine what the other rooms are like. This reminded me of a place we would use as a storage place here at home.

Last April when I learned that the Hotel was fully booked I called around to at least ten Hotels and got anything from "sorry, fully booked" to a rediculous rate quote. Make your reservation now and save the hassle. Call Hotels directly. It costs me $.21/min to call the Phils. Ask for a discount. This will result in at least a 10% price reduction.

Dragon Slayer

[Diver69]

Hey DS,

You are still my hero.

I'll PM you and may be we can hook up in China or Phil.

Diver (we met in Club Exotica in Cebu a couple years back)

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Having a boring holiday weekend here. Work and reading mystery novels. I got to get out of town for somewhere. Shanghai Baby, my woman in Sichuan CHina asked me if I would do anything for her. Isaid it depends. She said she wanted me to get her a Star in the Sky. What??? Anyway, I said I sould try. She was actually excited. This is fucking insane! I heard of a guy who sells Stars complete with astro photos and a Certificate of Authenticity. Great way to waste my money.

Diver 69, good to see you here pal. I will be in HK and China first before coming here and then again after here. With an open entry VISA I can go in and out of china whenever I like, as often as I like. So see you in Phils and China.

Here are a few more photos of J, 30, married, in china taken on webcam last night. She says she will meet me this trip in china. First two are of her and the last three are of Susan, married, 30, in china also Both have 4 year college degrees and work, one as a teacher and the other as an Administrator.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Two more of Susan and three of Lisa, 28, married, nurse in no. china. I chat with her weekly and she regularly pulls her tits out for me and once, only showed me her pussy. Hope to meet her this time. She says yes if I go to her city up north.

Dragon Slayer

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals, Happy US Independence Day.

Botaki6, I am sure you heard the old joke: What do you call a filipina virgin? A fucking liar. Next filipina says she is a virgin and I wil lose it. Same for them saying they are "sinple, naive girls". One of these "simple", "naive" W____s took my cellphone last Aug '04 and transferred ALL phone #'s to her cellphone. The fucking c___ then proceeded to text ALL.

In my own ignorance, I had given out the number at GE's home (had been assured more times than I can count that "no way will Mila (F___ maid) say anthing to any of them". Well the result was I lost all of them, including Su in Toronto who got a text from the B___ Maribelle and an e-mail from the B___ in Davao who hacked into my Yahoo E-mail via GE's laptop (spent a fortune on computer security experts who assured me this was where the damage originated).

Botaki6 you do not need or want my advice, I am certain. But for me, I avoid the "virgins" (liars is the real connotation) and the ones described as naieve and simple. I also DO NOT hang with ex-pats EVER outside of O'Flannagna's Pub. I do like the Tiger and "hunt alone at night".

Looks like I will be back the same time as last year. I sincerely hope that this year I DO NOT meet or see ANY of the Guys I met last August '04. Plan to stay at a new hotel in Davao to make this certain. Got my usual assurance from Maurice that none of these guys will be informed of anything concerning me or my whereabouts. His Staff did fine when the one guy came in (minutes after I left with my nightclub entertainer from Japan who flew to be with me). So, I know he can be trusted, as can the girls there (I tip very good also).

You guys must be tired of China Girl photos on the Davao Board. Here are some more from Davao. The last one is Anne and she is one of the cyber models I mentioned here. I have her contact info somewhere as I was looking at it the other day. She IS NOT cheap Pals.

BTW, for the "Stalker" who made his initial trip to Davao last July '04, No MORE PM's! They ALL will be promptly forwarded to JACKSON. Same for ANY Posts you make insutling or otherwise ridiculing me here. I had to keep my PM box full for 3 months, so I received no more insulting, obscene, obnoxious or threatening PM's from this guy. Trim even had to use a "code" on a separate Board elsewhere just to let me know he wanted to contact me. This should NOT have to be done.

As a former member of US Law Enforcement I could have this guy picked up here in the US. Still can if he chooses to _____. I want my privacy and Right to Post here openly and freely respected. I want my privacy in Davao also respected. BUT I can do just fine there should some fool wish to harass me.

Photos here are first, Imee with 36D tits. Would not allow me to take nudes of her so this is the best I could do ( I only take nudes when the lady says it is ok; most do). She took a 2 hour bus ride and 20 min taxi to my Hotel. Fucked me immediately, ate some lunch from room service and fucked me again. Then she promptly kissed me and left.

She is a superviser in a Company and claimed she took her afternoon off to meet me but had to get home to her daughter for dinner. Wants to meet me again this Trip. I can always leave a few hours open, I guess.

Second is M. who is 26 with perfect 36c tits. No nudes of her here but I will be seeing her again soon. She was with me for 2 days last trip in May '05. I know where she actually posted some "silhouette nudes" of herself on a website. I will check to see if they are still there and download them.

Last are of Anne, a Pro/cyber pro I met. I would prefer to avoid pros in the future but thought you would enjoy these photos of her body.

Dragon Slayer

[Diver69]

Hello DS,

I just read your latest post, I guess that explains why you didn't respond to my PM. Someone should give you "stalker" a good smack across the head...who in their right mind would want to ruin the fun and info we have on this website?

Anyway, I'm heading Asian way in November, let me know if you plan to go around the same time, may be we can hook up for a beer and some fun.

Love the pic of the chick who flew into Davao to meet you (the one covering her tits). Want to share her contact?

Anyway, give me a shout on PM when you have a chance. Let me know if you plan to come to the great white north any time soon. The weather is as hot here as it is in Phil.

Diver69

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Diver 69, Good to hear from you again. I will be somewhere in Asia over the US Holiday in November. We can meet then. As to the Stalker, it had me just leaving my PM box full for months. Plus it ruins the Board. Guys check the Davao Board to hear about pussy, not some guy slamming the Slayer. Anyone who ever met me knows I am a decent guy. Also, no one ever called me cheap or a cockblocker. I "share the wealth" and wish all of you guysthe best.

The girl I had in Davao may be with me again this trip. She does not speak much english though which is a bit of a problem. My Japanese is not good and I rely on my english mostly with any women, even in china. I will forward her phone number to you later if you want a try. She is not a pro though as none are that I posted photos of except Anne. I do have Anne's phone number also. She is 25 and cute.

Here are photos of one of my ladies in so china. Be seeing her again soon. e.

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

We went, as we usually do on Friday nights, to Henny's place, De Bonte Koe, and I noticed a new place, called Karen Po on Rizal St. It's got a front that's open to the street, and it was packed with women. It's only right down the street from Swigs and Bar 183, but it's not as upscale as they are. We also passed the recently re-opened Horizon which was also jammed at 11:30 in the evening.

In addition to the new riches on Rizal, there's another Hot Legs that's opened on San Pedro, near city hall and more or less around the corner from Rizal. I've not been there, but I understand from friends that the women are reasonably good looking and that the place is a lot of fun.

:D

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

The Slayer is booked and ready. Just need a few more premium bottles of champagne for the Trip. I fly into HK first. Then to So China for a few days and then off to Manila. Head direct to A.C. One night in A.C. and then a flight to Singapore to be with my Annie. We have completely reconciled and she is back in her #1 spot where she belongs.

I will fly direct from Singapore to Davao. Be there quickly as my Annie can only get a few days off from work. May entice her to make the Trip with me.

First 4 photos are of my Annie from Davao She is HOTT. Last is my Lady in Davao whom I met (and fucked _times) last Trip. See her again this Trip.

Dragon Slayer

[Diver69]

Hey Pal,

Do you mean to tell me the chick covering her breast is Japanese, and she flew to Davao to meet up with you? Holy smoke!!! What kind of love potion are you feeding these ladies. Man! "We're not worthy!" (Bow) Think she might be interested in a horny Asian guy?

What do you tell these chicks you meet online? Do you go right out and tell them you wanna fuck 'em? The ones I've met are behaving rather too proper and it's kind of have me worried if they'll be like that when we meet.

By the way, I'm gonna need some help from you on Davao and Dumaguete (remember last time I was there I scored a big Zero---must have been looking at all the wrong places or sending the wrong vibes)

Anyway, have you got your PM account cleared up yet? I'd like to pm you sometime.

Keep me in touch of your adventures.

Your pal,

Diver69

[Dragon Slayer]

Diver 69,

Pal I will meet up with you in Dumaguete if you give me advance notice. I did not mention it but I have been scuba diving (got certified at16) all my adult life. I stopped due to my lousy left hip from my days playing ball but this will be cleared up by the time you are here. We can do diving in the morning and pussy in the afternoon and evening.

I will Post in D.C. more. Try to make an exploratory trip there now. My plans for thisTrip have changed as I fly direct from HK to Singapore. Annie agreed to take a week off from work to spend with me. It was like old times with her back in Davao before I met and hooked up with the other guy here. On the net she Im'd me as I was working. She announced that she had her new computer and then invited me to view her webcam. She then proceeded to remove ALL her clothes for me. First time for this since our much happier days early in '04 before I met ________..

In all the time I have known my Annie she has never asked me for one penny (no wonder the other "little dick" tried to steal her from me). Beautiful with a great body and huge tits. Soft lips and all. Sorry I have a few more weeks until my Trip. AND to think I had literally lost her and even "threw it all away" due to some cocksucker here.

I will fly from Singapore direct to Davao unless I get "stuck" in Singapore. One never knows. Doubt if I will Post until after my Davao trip as I am concerned that the other two guys will want to see if they can make my life miserable once again. Rather they have no idea when I am here (damn fucking shame I have to behave this way).

The cyber babe with the big tits in Davao IM'd me. Must have been a slow day showing her tits for $$ online. When I told her I would be back here, she said to contact her. I asked for her cell (had it already but wanted to hear her reply). She must have forgotten who I was and said she had to sell her phone as she needed money (Ya right!). Then asked me if I could buy one for her.

When I got up off the floor (fell from laughing so hard) I told her I would have to think about this. Discuss it further in Davao in person. Last I heard from her. No matter how poor they are, literally every girl I ever met in the Philippines (china also) age 18 or above has a cellphone. A reconditioned one like I had 1 1/2 years ago can be bought for as little as P 800 ($ 14.30US).

Buy me a cellphone goes along with the "sick mother at home" (or sick buffalo depending on how dumb they think the guy is) over in Thailand. Amazing how much these cellphones can cost if you are stupid enough to ask them this.

I could expound on the devious nature of filipinas for the next five years Point is I do not believe a fucking word any of them ever tells me. This is coming on the anniversary of my "Disaster in Davao" which began last July '04 and ended August 24, 2004 with my Flight out of Davao. Of course it did not end there. Not until I cut off all contact with Davao and changed everything in the computer and got a new cellphone number here in the US.

Unless I get killed or mugged and repeatedly buttfucked (actually I got that figuratively last August '04 trip) it has to be a hell of a lot better. Have some great champagnes to drink with the ladies here. Some of the same women from May '05 and new ones also.

Dragon Slayer

[Spam Hog]

Gentlemen,

Just dropped by to chat with Maurice today and give him a few coins and paper notes from Macau to hang on the bar. This may be out of line for the Davao board but I figured I would run it down for guys like the slayer who seems to get around china a great deal these days.

I tell ya, any self respecting monger gotta check out Macau! It was the spamhogs first trip there with the Missus of course but man! did I wish I was as unattached as I was at the height of my Asian Mongering sojourns.

Now I got to say I have dipped the Irish inch in the lovliest that Asia has to offer, from the comely maids of Chamgmai/Chang Lai in N. Thailand to the Sophisticated eurasian beauties of Singapore and of course the dusky lasses of the Philippines but as far as sheer stunning quality what I saw in Macau was nothing short of fantastic!

picture the scene: the Spamhog, troll like with a Filipina beauty on his arm checking out the chinese going crazy around the card tables and yanking the slot handles at the Hotel Lisboa, best place in Town. I suggest to the wife we go get a bite at one of the resturaunts on the Promenade level. Okay, as we stroll along I notice absolutely gorgeous chinese beauties strutting their stuff back an forth rather aimlessly, at first I think show girls or some kind of models between sets but naaawwwww, these ladies are giving me bold looks and almost overt come on's even with the ball and chain hanging on to my arm for dear life. I mean these ladies were nothing short of stunning! Short skitrts, heels, gowns even! Hair done to perfection, nines and nine,fives.

The boss leans close and whispers in my ear...."I think those girls are prosititutes."

"Er really, what makes you think that?'

"I know" shes says, giving the girls the 'dragon look' squeezes my arm in half like a territorial dog defending her bone.

So we set down to a meal and I watch through the window, a veritible parade of pussy walking around, I also see the deal, Chinese guys are lined up along the hallways oogling the girls, once in a while a gal goes over, smiles and postures,horny looks all around, I see one or two girls head for the elevators with old guys that look like fu manchu in the movies.

My bride is getting into it also, commenting and laughing at the antics.
If she knew what was going on in my evil little mind she'd a smashed me on top of the head with a plate of noodles.

Not too many ' gweillos' there, mostly Chinese, I would expect the fees these ladies command would be rather high but we owe it to ourselves to check this out and plant the flag of team Davao on a Macau beauty with a "blow by blow" account posted herein of course!

Spamhog

[Cebu Local]

Hi Spamhog
I am glad you share my opinion of the parade,The Lisboa parade is truely fantastic.Unfortunately on My last trip to Macau,My third this year I was with my own stunning Chinese beauty and she basically told the women to stay away.Prices are between 500 Hong kong dollars to 700.But they will start at 1000 then just haggle downwards.Expensive,But Steak is always expensive compared to burgers.PM if you want deals on Macau,I have been working with Air Macau and Macau Govt Tourism office lately Cheers

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Diver 69 you are my "Good Luck Charm". You Post here and then out of nowhere I get 2 calls from the lovely SU in your City. Have not heard from this gorgeous chinese girl in 10 months. Now, she is back online.

Spamhogs, too tired and too wasted from early celebrating my soon departure on Trip # 83 to S E Asia from USA. Serious Post in the AM here.

Had a long Post here but then a lovely Lady in Ozamis (stone's throw from Davao) got online and began to undress on cam. Lost the entire Post. To think some guys used to PM me saying my Posts are all "invented and too incredible" to be true. Okay!. Ask the Guys who were there.

More later. Off soon for Hong Kong, China, Singapore & Davao (where the fuck else would the Slayer go?).

Dragon Slayer

[GoodEnough]

WSG member Mahku is in town for some diving and fun, and yesterday we ate with him at De Bonte Koe. There's a bar directly across from the restaurant called "The Red Bar" and despite the pouring rain last night, and the generally screwed up traffic, I noticed a steady stream of unaccompanied young, attractive women entering the place. This is not the first time recently that I've noticed the uptick in female traffic into this bar, and it now seems to be an established place for women out on the town. These ladies are not pros, I'm almost sure, but I'm equally sure that they're available.

Given the proximity of the bar to the other bars on Rizal St., it's a good place to know about since it's not nearly as crowded as Bar 183 or Swig, but there's a high ratio of women to men.

GE

[Diver69]

Hey DS,

That's the first time anyone has called me that. So, does that mean you'll be heading my way soon? Make sure you let me know, and I'll buy the beers.

Check your private messages, I sent you a PM last week with my e-mail address on it.

So, is that girl a Japanese? You are doing the United Nations, pal. Keep it up (pun intended)

Diver69

[Dragon Slayer]

Diver 69,

I have a Trip south and east NOW. after, I do plan to visit your beautiful CIty. See you then and In China and the Phils. I will PM you shortly Pal.

SPamhogs,

Look forward to seeing you again soon. I will be in O'Flanagan's nightly when I arrive. I had heard about Macao. Did not realize it was as good as you found out. How are the prices there? What does a decent Hotel cost and a decent restaurant? It is a boat ride away from Hong Kong and perhaps I should check it out.

Pals,

I have to work a lot now. Hope to be in china shortly. Then Hong Kong and then Singapore. From there direct to here in Davao. I will keep a low profile but should not be hard to spot. Will not be alone during my stay here.

I have posted regularly on my lovely "Shanghai Baby" in China. Met her on the chinese internet chat room late last September. I spent a week with her in late November and another ten nights from the end of 2004 into 2005. She became ill in April and took a leave of absence from her Company and went home. Decided we should marry immediately and has refused to see me since. I still continue to communicate but not much else to do

As it is I met another beautiful chinese girl on chinese chat (will NEVER regret those chinese language studies). SHe has already booked my Hotel for me and is flying to meet me in southern china. SHe is in the Hotel Management Industry in china. Beautiful, young lady but the english is not as good as with SHanghai Baby. Still, I must "make do" in my "dark hours".

I just heard from a sweet 25 y/o in Davao. Not gorgeous but what I call sweet and nice. Kind of woman you want to be with regularly. I did not think I would have any free time this Trip in Davao but I will definitely meet her, even just for dinner. Have a feeling I might spend more time with her and extend this Trip.

More before I depart.

Dragon SLayer

[Diver69]

DS,

Have fun and pm me when you plan to visit here.

See you then.

Diver69

[Mahku]

Hi Friends,

I've been thoroughly enjoying myself here in Davao, both above and below water. I will post on these and other outstanding issues that have come up in this thread later. But right now I want to bring up something that I feel shouldn't wait.

Maurice, the owner of the Irish bar called O'Flanagan's, is a class act. Most nights of the week his bar is full of expat resident regulars, visitors to town, and SOMETIMES attractive women. When I talked to Maurice last night we turned our attention to what is posted in these pages about Davao in general, and about his bar and himself in particular. Let's just say Maurice is not a happy man and he had some pointed things to say about certain regular posters in these threads. I'll do my best to relate exactly what he said as my San Miguel impaired memory allows. I asked Maurice's permission to post these things and that permission was given.

1. Maurice says 'STOP QUOTING ME, ATTRIBUTING REMARKS ABOUT OTHERS TO ME, OR OTHERWISE DRAGGING ME INTO YOUR PETTY DISPUTES.' He gave no permission to have his name and words used in this way and he says he does require permission to be asked. I related to Maurice the quotes that this poster had attributed to him. His response was 'LIES, LIES LIES!' As I posted here before Maurice is a business owner and he will do his best to make all feel welcome and get along with everybody. He will not, however, take sides in schoolboy squabbles.

It's pretty low class to use somebody's words on the internet without their permission. To make up quotes that are out and out lies is off the scale. And all this was done by someone who is supposedly a friend. For this alone, you (and you know who you are) owe Maurice an apology.

2. Maurice says 'STOP MAKING MY BAR OUT TO BE A GIRLY BAR OR PICKUP JOINT.' He says he wants his place to be a family friendly expat bar. While Maurice is partial to the ladies and an avid mongerer himself, that doesn't mean that he's looking to make his place into an LA Cafe or something like that.

3. Finally, he says 'STOP MAKING DAVAO OUT TO BE SOMETHING THAT IT ISN'T.' Davao is not Angeles or Burgos Street. He told me of at least 3 people who have been in the bar extremely disillusioned about what is posted here and who left the following day as fast as they could. He scoffs about what is posted about the corner convenience store (aka Ground Zero) and other supposed mongering hotspots. He wondered why people need to make stuff up to inflate their own egos when it costs people money to travel here and find out that it's not what it's cracked up to be.

So the word from Maurice to ALL posters here is to cease and desist, particularly about numbers one and two above. What I have posted here is just a fraction of what he said. Each point made above was spun out several times in various colorful language that only the Irish can produce. He also had a lot more to say of a personal nature about certain people but I'll leave that to him if he wants to tell anybody who goes into O'Flanagan's.

Anyone, particularly those who like to threaten others into silence, who wants to take issue with this post can come and talk to me. I will be here in Davao until about next Monday and after that my whereabouts are readily available to anyone who PMs me. You can also go talk to Maurice himself and hear it directly, though there's a certain member here who may not get the warm welcome he anticipates.

Enough of this for now and I'll now return to more pleasurable pursuits here in Davao. When I have time I will post on my experiences and the Davao scene as I see it. I will especially focus on what Davao is and what it isn't. Too many guys seem to be showing up here and then turning right around and leaving. And if I really have time I will turn my attention to more personal matters, particularly the misuse of the word 'stalker.' That may have to wait until I'm out of the Philippines on August 12th though. I have to go for now. I've kept someone waiting for long enough.

[Spam Hog]

well it looks like we been found out!!!!! i say 'we' as i consider myself part of the expat davao community who have made this whacky place our home.

okay i'm guilty of maybe pumping this place up a bit too much and maybe laying on the hype about the girls, however a few things in mine and other's defense.

nobody ever said davao was a big time brothel, just the opposite, yes we have our share of pros and freelancers,& a couple of bars for that but compared to the organized sin in such places as angeles, makati or even cebu, we're like a church social.

perhaps we were trying to promote visitation to the area after all the undeserved bad press about how dangerous the place is and all that crap and figured we would balance out the negative with the over exaggerated positive.

what "we' have said, is this is a unspoiled place (relatively) where foreigners are still a novelty and if one is willing to invest the time one can find a lady suitable for marriage, a gf or gf like experience. i used to call davao the philippines best kept secret, i found the place by accident in 1999 after leaving e. timor intending to go up to manila and go nuts in ermita.

i met many nice ladies who were the furtherst thing in the world from hookers
i liked it so well i decided to stay here and married one of 'em.

maurice's place is not an angeles type bar where the girls are lined up in go go boots, we all hype maurice's place because of the food (if you ever spend any time in asia you will see how much you miss a good sandwich) the draught beer, as a place to hang out and catch up on news and because we feel comformatble there, it has fast became a landmark and easy to find... thats it, it is and should remain a neighborhood type bar modeled after the irish local pub.

to portray it as anything else is asking for trouble, gentlemen, some of you haven't a clue as to how things operate in the phils, if some filipino official gets wind there is anything he can do to "lean' on a rich foreigner and bilk him out of a bribe for allowing "unwholesome activiety" he will jump at the chance, so be careful what you say about what goes on and what doesn"t go on at the pub, you never know who is reading.

as far as picking up women in davao, the corner store, ground zero and all the other bs, yes, one can do it, but don't expect people to mob you, filipinas are shy, you can meet many nice ladies here and a few nasty ones depends on your social skills. sometimes i wonder what people expect, its like there is no perfect paradise on earth, everything is give and take.

that said and being a former monger myself (he says with a halo over his head and forked tail peeking out of his pant leg) i for one do not want to see davao "ruined" and turned into angeles city or makati or nanaplaza, my suggestion is if you are into that type of thing then go to those places and have yourself a time, but if you want a good cheap vacation, are prepared to rough it in a sense and enjoy the scenery, see a couple of the lumads down from the moutain selling their homemade baskets and such, maybe do a little diving and perhaps flirt with the dusky lasses that just might be your next wife then by all means visit us.

spamhog

[GoodEnough]

it's difficult to disagree with anything that mahku or spam hog say. davao is not a walk on the wild side. it's not got the ready availability of countless p4p ladies like manila, cebu or, (i'm told) angeles city. what it does have though, and what those other cities do not, is an almost endless supply of normal women who are approachable, friendly, and open to a relationship with an expat. most of the guys i know who live here would, i think agree with that statement.

as to mahku's comments about o'flannigans, he is again correct. it is not now, nor has it ever been a pick up joint. it's a friendly, neighborhood pub with decent food, decent people, and a very amiable host. maurice has told me countless times that he does not want to operate a "singles" bar. in fact most of the women who frequent the place are the wives or girlfriends of regular male patrons.

opinions differ about the corner convenience store, i basically do not like the place, as it's become a hang out for street hookers, transvestites, and local kids with little money to spend. also, the outside terrace is generally filthy, which turns me off. to be fair however, there are others who love it, and love the whole street scene there. it's true that there are some good looking young hookers, and it's true as well that it's an easy place to pick up women.

it's probably not a good idea to spend the money to come here for a day or two, with the expectation that you will be in an ambiance like burgos street or edsa. the guys who come here and enjoy the place take the time to get to know the city a little, and invest a bit of time with local women. the places on rizal st. such as bar 183, or horizon or swig are not "hooker bars" and anyone who goes in with that assumption is bound to be disappointed. they are however, gathering spots for lively crowds and lots of single women. the same is true of the venue and the bars rep001tered around that area.

spam hog says that he may be guilty of "pumping up" the place a bit. i genuinely like this city as well and therefore may have been overly enthusiastic in some of my posts. i still feel though that, by and large, this city is one of the great (largely) unknown secrets of the philippines.

i guess all of this means that, for guys on hiliday, it's important to come here with the right expectations.

:d

ge

[X Man]

Other than Maurice, are all you Westerners in Davao named Joe?

Everywhere I went in Davao, people shouted out, "hey joe".

x

[Mahku]

Well, think we have enough large letter banners with the words sex guide in them yet? Sheesh.

6 days so far in Davao. There's been a weekend of diving, several internet lady friends providing good company, one random encounter star who is causing minor reverberations in my single guy fortress and an encouraging look at the bar scene.

I've seen four of my internet friends so far. A couple of them do and a couple of them don't but they're such good company that I don't mind. Just walking around with a fine woman on my arm is a simple pleasure I'll never get tired of. I still have 3 others I haven't met yet. This backlog causes me to hold off from doing much bar hunting but such are the sacrifices in the world of mongering.

I'm happy to say that Marco Polo is as guest friendly as ever. You can stay here for 2400 (no breakfast) if you fly in on Cebu Pacific.

Marco Polo is just across from Ateneo de Davao University, a place where some of the more affluent and well-connected people send their kids to study. One day as I was coming out of the Marco Polo gym I saw a flash of pink in the corner of my eye, a delicious lovely that was wandering around the pool area. As I went to the elevator her and a couple of friends followed. We made eye contact, smiled, I got out on my floor, went to my room and didn't think much of it. An hour or so later I was coming back from the store and saw the same girl and her friends next to the elevator in the lobby. Again they followed me in and this time just the one girl in pink got out on my floor with me. At this point I remembered talk about a stalker on the loose in Davao. I wondered, should I prostrate myself and surrender my body now? Instead I gathered up my courage and chatted the girl up. She said that she's a new member of the gym and she just wanted to look around the hotel to see what it's like. Hmmm, I thought. Then she said she would really like to see what a room looks like. Double hmmm, I thought. So in walked the lamb into the wolf's lair. Except this time I had to go meet someone else in a few minutes. So after a chat and an exchange of numbers she agreed to show up the next day. When she did it wasn't long before we were doing the deed. The time after that she showed up in her Ateneo uniform, every perv hound's dream. She's also helped decorate the Marco Polo pool in her bikini. She's also great company, witty, can talk politics and economics should I wish it (not yet). A girl like this could weaken my single man resolve.

I don't want to give the idea that this happens all the time in Marco Polo. Honestly it's just dumb luck. But in this week I have seen a few girls here and there in the lobby that seemed to be waiting for nobody in particular. The gym and the pool could also offer up possibilities now and then.

Other thoughts on Davao:

The Corner Convenience Store: I've been pleasantly surprised by what I've found this week. 2 out of 4 times that I passed by there have been girls that I might want to touch. I've always been on the way to something or someone else so any temptation had to be resisted. As GE says the outside is a bit of a pit but there's usually room on the inside if there's a target in there.

Da Bonte Koe on Rizal Street: A European restaurant. It has good food and expat company. It's near to the Rizal Promenade and other places along the street there.

Red Bar, across from Da Bonte Koe: As GE noted there is girl traffic going into this place and I found out why. It's a gathering spot for some high-powered people. I was given a congressman's business card who is also the owner of Pearl Farm Resort. So where people like this get together the girls usually follow. But needless to say you should tread very carefully hitting on someone here. You wouldn't want to get someone important pissed off.

Bar 183 in Rizal Street Promenade and Swig, just a few steps down the street. These two places are promising looking hunting grounds. I was in there on Tuesday and Wednesday nights, after dropping off my companion for the night. Tuesday was dead and washed out by rain. But Wednesday had lots of flirting chances. Even though I wasn't feeling that needy after being with another girl during the day, I almost went for one. But a local guy beat me to her. I might have made it to her first if an off-duty Marco Polo waiter hadn't been distracting me trying to buddy up and make himself into a middleman for introducing girls. I'll try and get back to these places and work on picking someone up in earnest.

I'll also try and get to Venue, Liquid and as many other places as I can in the next few days.

Other: The immigration office across from Victoria Plaza is a good place to do your extension from 21 to 59 days. Only 2 other people were there and it went a lot faster than in Cebu, only 30 minutes or so. It still costs 2020 pesos. To save time bring 2 photos and a copy of your passport information page and also one of the page that has your entry stamp.

The diving here has just been so so. As far as highlights go there has been one sea turtle and that was about it. There was also a problem with some of the rental gear, so I'll hopefully get some from a different shop this coming weekend. I'm really wishing I hadn't left my own gear at home, even if it is a hassle to carry around and costs excess baggage. Even if the diving isn't that great it's still fun to go out. The other people are usually good fun and on occasion I hear there are some girl divers worth meeting.

[Mahku]

Went with one of my lady friends here to the Venue last night. 100 pesos cover for men, 50 for women, applicable to food orders only. The Venue, the inside part that is, seems to be seeing declining numbers. Even on a Friday night the downstairs was only a little over half full and the upstairs not used at all. The outdoor courtyard part had plenty of people. I didn't spot any flirting targets even had I been available to do so. My girl had to go back home around midnight. After seeing her off I went to Liquid in the Apo View Hotel.

Liquid served up a winner on this night. Cover charge was 150 which could go towards drink orders. I like Liquid because it has a garden out back by the restrooms. You can post yourself out in the garden and 'just happen' to meet girls on their way to and from powdering their noses. But this isn't how things happened on this night. I exchanged eye contact with a table full of office girls for a few minutes. Then I noticed one at the bar looking my way and giving me a lovely smile. So I moved over to her side and got to talking. We did lots of dancing and she was very good. Always a good sign when a girl can dance. If she knows what to do with her body on the dance floor she'll probably know how to use in in other places too...After a while we moved over to Bar 183 at Rizal Street. Cover was 100 each, could be used for drinks. Bar 183 was a mass of writhing bodies. There was also some kind of countertop kissing contest going on at the bar. There was plenty of eye candy, but I can't comment on the picking up possibilities.

We eventually made it back to the room, and as promised by her dancing, she was good in the sack. It turned out that she has a baby. I'm not usually into the MILF thing, but this one didn't really show much sign of being a Mom. Still firm in the right places. Afterwards I sent her on her way with 1000 pesos. Needless to say I had EVERYTHING locked in the safe.

One other tidbit. There's a place called Jack's Ridge, about a 15 or 20 minutes taxi ride from the middle of town, that's a good place to take a girl for dinner. It's up a hillside and has a good view of town. There are a couple of restaurants and a place with a live band. There are also plenty of grounds and secluded places where you can sit close and enjoy the view.

[GoodEnough]

I went, on Wednesday night with my lady, Mahku and an adorable friend of his to an invitation-only wine tasting at Claude's restaurant, which is on Rizal St., about 20 meters from Hennys. I think the name is Cafe de Ville, but it could be Cafe de Paris. Claude had brought in his wine distributor, a French guy who specializes in high-end wines from small, little known vinyards throughout France. We got to taste ten wines: four white and six reds, and they were mostly excellent. The reason for this soiree, which had to cost a few dollars, was to introduce the wines to Davao, because Claude is, as of next week, going to start to sell them at package store prices, for home consumption. The prices range from about PhP600 to about PhP1,200 and they are quite good value. I ordered a mixed case for delivery next week.

As wine loving denizens of Davao know, there are lots of places here to buy decent (but not great) Australian and even South African wines. There are also places to by drinkable reds from Chile and one or two from Italy, but there is no place I've discovered that sells good French wine. Now there is. So, between Swiss Deli for the Australian and Chilean stuff, and Claude's for the higher end French stuff, Davao is becoming, if not a wine drinkers' paradise, reasonably accommodating.

I've been in Manila the last couple of days, and have not had a chance to speak to Mahku, but I'm glad he scored at Liquid. I've always assumed that it was a decent pick up place, but never got the chance to test it.

On his point about the number of clientele this board has "contributed" to Maurice's place, Mahku is again correct. I doubt more than 15-20 guys in two years have gone into that bar because of what they've read here, and doubtless, if they were expecting pick up opportunities, they were disappointed. It's just not that kind of place. I should mention though that Maurice is an extremely decent, friendly guy and he knows Davao cold. Therefore, he's an excellent source of advice about where to go and what to avoid, and I am not speaking here of chasing women. He knows where the best deals on everything can be found, including merchandise, housing and food, and he is normally quite willing to share his knowledge. As Mahku said, and as I will reiterate, his is a friendly, down-home Irish Pub, and the only one of its kind in Davao. It also serves a large, and very tasty Irish breakfast, which is a wonderful treat on a Sunday morning if you've indulged too much the night before.

Carpe diem!

:D

GE

[Mahku]

trim...uh, another time.

tried to go diving today out at talikud island with a merry group led by the owner of a local restaurant including goodenough, a contractor on vacation from iraq, and plenty of good female company. i was looking forward to seeing some good bikini modeling. but the seas rose up and thwarted our plans and the boat limped back into port barely holding on to both outriggers.

disappointed but still in good spirits, it was time for plan b. most of the group went to ge's house and i later heard of some debauched goings on at his place. but me and my girl from the college across the street headed back to the hotel. there we made sure that some kind of diving took place on the day. copious room service was ordered, lots of water splashed around the bathroom, and fellow swimming pool patrons' eyebrows were raised. by early evening she was needing to get back to her place so that left me some time to roam around but...

unfortunately it's sunday night. and in davao that means almost nothing is open. i did manage to find some people at henny's place and caught up on the misbehavings of the rest of the diving group. so if you're ever in davao on a sunday night try to have your female companionship sorted out before dark because there aren't many open to do any hunting.

other things to report:

summit bar at royal mandaya hotel is closed for a month for renovations. i've never been to this place before so i'm not sure if this is good, bad or indifferent.

i went to the auto shop with a different college girl on saturday night. this is a rizal street promenade style area with various outdoor bars, an enclosed disco and an ice cream shop. it's at the back of victoria plaza. being saturday night it was too packed to move on the dance floor. there were plenty of girls around but a lot of them looked a little young so watch that you don't find yourself perving on the ****d. my girl also told me that there have been quite a few gang fights here. it's probably still worth a look though, since these kinds of places are always changing.

i've also heard about a place called mts, in madina (medina?). i was told this is kind of like the venue, which might be why venue isn't getting as many people. i hope to check this place out but i only have a couple of more days here and even happening places in davao are often dead at this point in the week.

[Lucifer69]

Gentlemen,

Being a long term resident of Davao, and we are talking 10 years or so, I would like to clarify a few things and make a few suggestions.

1. Yes, Davao is nothing like the other normal mongering places in the Philippines. It will never be like Angeles, P. Burgos St. (Makati), Ermita (LA Cafe area), Puerto Gallera or Cebu. It's a place more oriented to retirement, rotator workers who have/or haven't family, guys looking for a place to kick back and relax or those businessmen who are willing to take big risks or small potential returns.

2. It is not a major pickup joint with go-go bars, massage joints, street walkers, and general catering to the expat. Although it has variations of those to some extent, it is definately not, nor hopefully ever will be, like those listed in #1. As a long term resident, that is what adds to it's charm. I've been to all the major whoring joints in the Philippines. Yes, they are nice to visit in small doses and leave a great big wide smile on your face, but I for one, could never stay more than a couple of days at a place like that. I think I would go into overload.

3. Davao does have a lot of very sweet, genuine gals that are looking for something better in life than the general standard that the majority of the Filipinos has to live with. This makes it very easy for a foreigner who can talk a load of shit, flash a bit of cash and pretend that he is the answer to all their prayers. As naive as some of these gals are, they are generally a lot smarter than many guys give them credit for. If they have physical attributes that helps them achieve beyond their means, why not use them? I for one have never used wines or champagnes, dinners in fancy restaurants, or promises of more permanent status or other hints in order to "bag the chick". Just treat them nice and they will more often or not reciprocate.

4. I don't much like the way that many friends of mine of many years, who live and reside in Davao and run businesses, are named in this forum. I for one would prefer that actual names are kept out of the internet domain. Especially when assumptions are made to their behavior and way of life. You all hide (myself included) behind internet names, but yet spout out about other guys and how you percieve their beliefs, ideas and thoughts. I find this very cheap and tacky. If you won't list your own name why should you talk about someone else and write about what he or she said. I know most of your real names and could just as well post your names on here as well. Please remember that a lot of what is typed here essentially becomes public domain and can be exposed to public knowledge and it's just not fair to the persons you have mentioned. Please respect a person's right to privacy.

5. On the diving thing, if you're a avid diver, forget about Davao. It's okay for a diver who lives here and can't be bothered to go to a real dive spot either for lack of time or whatever. But if your expecting quality diving your best bet for diving is either like Bohol, Puerto Gallera (where you can blend diving and mongering), Palawan, or General Santos. Most dive areas here have been dynamited to shit and is not really worth the time or effort to dive.

On a final note, as long as we all choose to frequent Davao as a destination, whether we live here or just visit regularly, please enjoy your time here and don't expect too much. A lot of what I have read here is most likely embellishments from a bunch of blowhards, and is not generally the norm. I have had numerous nights here out on the town that if I were to tell my buds back home they would never believe me, but I have also had many nights where not much of all happened. All together it was a bunch of nights and most were okay, some were awesome and more than I would care to admit, pretty much sucked, other than getting shit faced drunk and making a fool of myself.

Whether your visit here means shagging your brains out, drinking your liver to solidification or spending time with your wife and kids (and a little of the first two if you can get away with it) please keep the personal names and habits out of forum.

Regards,

Lucifer

[Mahku]

After reading Lucifer69's post I decided to edit my post of a couple of days ago to delete the name of a local business owner. I won't bother with Maurice's name because it's already spread around the thread so much that it won't matter.

OK then...


It’s obvious that’s who you’re talking about but don’t have the balls to say his name for some reason...You like to sneak up and attack from the back instead of face him like a real man would.

You know when someone starts talking about someone 'having the balls' that there's a house in the suburbs somewhere that has a momma that needs to call her little boy to dinner. But while we're on the subject of balls and such let's have a look at one of your posts in about May on the China Shenzhen thread. Here you don't even 'have the balls' to name names (our friend?) but you don't even talk about the guy on a thread that he frequents. So don't talk to us about attacks from the back and real men. If you RTFF a few posts below I've offered to meet you, Dragon Slayer (notice the name), or anyone else in person. Where I come from those are the only balls that matter. I don't ever make personal attacks unless I get one first. You and Dragon Slayer might do well to learn this concept. Your respect others and you get respected in return. You kick sand in their face and you'll get the same.


And just who died and gave you the authority to bring this out in the open?

Well, I did. And Dragon Slayer did when he made public attacks here. Although I see in recent posts your hero hasn't 'had the balls' to name names.


Why do I have to come tell Maurice I think he’s a hypocrite when I can just tell you? You seem to be his voice lately.

And you seem to be speaking up for the Slayer. Why don't you just let him speak up for himself?


Just post on your trips to Davao and leave the degradation home.

Good advice for all of us, especially you. A quick check shows that most of your recent posts are of the peanut gallery type. Your last contribution of any substance was months ago and not much even then. I hope you can soon get back to travelling and reporting your findings.

I'll be in Manila for the next few days. Later.

[Mahku]

i spent 10 days trying to convince the staff of the marco polo that i'm a lowdown womanizing scoundrel. if i didn't succeed i'm willing to go back and try some more, hehe.

as is generally agreed here davao is not for the go-go bar hopping style of mongering. it does exist in a limited way in places like hot legs (across from royal mandaya hotel), galera (around the corner from hot legs), moonlight and roman plaza (both sort of on the way to the airport). but these places offer generally lower quality with higher prices than what you're used to in angeles. there are also street walkers, especially around the corner convenience store and on the street between there and the apo view, if that's your kind of thing.

you can also try picking up more regular girls in the nightlife spots. but this will be more hit and miss and it requires elevating your approach above "you go boom boom short time?" i only spent 3 or 4 nights hunting this way and only the one time at liquid in the apo view did i find a girl i really wanted to be with and she agreed to go with me. other places to try are rizal street promenade (including swig, which i liked better than bar 183 for hitting on girls), the venue (probably better in the outdoor courtyard than inside in the disco), maybe auto shop (but watch out for ****). finally there's the convenience store. my thumbs down of this place last year is the root cause for most of my spats in this thread. ironically it's better this year. 2 or 3 times when i went by i was tempted to sit down and see what happens. best to approach outings in these places is going out to enjoy a few drinks, music and chatting up people around you. if you find a girl it's a bonus but don't have your heart set on batting 1.000 unless you're willing to lower your standards.

finally there are girls you meet on the internet in advance. even this approach doesn't deliver every time. some of the girls really are conservative. as lucifer69 said, lots of guys sweet talk the girls and make stupid promises. not only is this a rotten thing to do it really isn't necessary. if you're just nice to the girls and honest they'll appreciate it. the girls are lied to so much that they're pretty good at sorting out the players. they're also getting more sophisticated at find out the playboys, using fake second chat names or getting they're friends to chat the guy up and see what happens. with a lot of girls honesty actually turns them on. in an ironic twist they're more likely to give it up for a guy that tells it like it is. i am always very matter of fact with all the girls about who i'm meeting and what we're doing. in the end i don't seem to lack for bedmates.

i hope to be back here once more before the trip ends in mid-august. i really miss the ateneo girl that became my most constant companion as the days went on.

[Domino]

As well as an 80 peso tariff in the Crimson Inn, that is the least I have paid here. I am staying in a cheap hotel near the main strip and am sparring in a boxing gym just off it. Lots of good boxers here.
I have also done some other street walkers. So far, none of them have given the so called GFE. But then again I have not given the bfe. We are off to Sulu Zulu Muslim land tomorrow, Gotta watch out for low flying choppers.

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I have to make this short as I am back to Davao tomorrow after going HK, China, Cebu, Davao and now Cebu again. Great trip.

Had both my little girls with me (age 5 & 6) in Davao for the first time ever. No chance to run around but it was still great. Maurice O'Flanagan was great with them. So was Ann Ann. I am on my own now as they had to get back to classes. I am with my gorgeous honey here now.

Why is someone fucking with Trim? What is wrong with you assholes??? He was only trying to contact me for some information. Why does the other guy, Mahku, feel the need to constantly bring up my Name here? Don't you guys have better things to do, like getting laid?

I will Post from Davao tomorrow and report more. I am flying solo now. It has been great so far. Have new information to Report bor both the rookie and the seasoned traveller here. New information on So China that is good.

Dragon Slayer

[Mahku]

Yes, getting laid is better and I've been doing it plenty. But you started all this so don't be crying about it now.

I will be in Davao next week the 10th to the 12th, after leaving from here in Cebu tomorrow afternoon and 3 days in Dumaguete. And no, I'm not going to Davao for any overblown ego WSG member. I have the best girl on the trip so far to see one more time. But if anyone happens to be there and wants to meet up I'm sure up for it. That's a lot better than putting all this out in public which I don't intend to do.

[Domino]

Hey guys, if you want to have a fist fight, please count me in. Sparring in the gym off Rizal Thursday I got caught with an awful 1-2, whatever the ass hole was doing. That was only the begining of an awful day. I picked up a sweet talking 40 year old skank who made the usual empty promises of a good massage (oil all over my luxury sheets, worse than the Thai skanks fucking up my towels), a great blow job(I pased as I wanted it skinless and she wanted a few dozen condoms on Domino) up the ass (40 with 20 odd years experience and never been butt plugged. Yeah right). Then after one pop, she wants to go to sleep and be my gf. I paid her off and hope I don't see her this side of hell.
She has some jaundiced remarks on how to catch younger women. Apparently, plenty of gold and cash is the key to their hearts. She worked in Ermita in the old days and seemed happy when I told her about LA Cafe. Seems she is going to go there to meet a husband, maybe iball or some other loser. She also reckons the young ladies are all shabu heads. Give me the idealism of youth guys!
She has lovely religious tatts all over her body. The tatts are ugly and cheap. Jesus, God etc scrawled on her arms, shoulder and just beneath both knees. That was in her wilder days. Now she has big, dead tits that feel like she got a tranquilizer in them to numb any sensations. Better to fuck a %^&$^, I owuld imagine,
Man, they put such an effort into sealing the deal and then don't follow through. It must be a awful job
Hope the festival is good next week.
I might pass on Maurice. Has he any sisters?

[GoodEnough]

Wow Domino, you're really seeing the dark and dirty side of the city. I don't think I've ever seen a 40 year old hooker here, but then I have not looked very hard. Maybe Mahku's girlfriend has a sister you should meet? I've met her, and she is truly adorable.

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

Still in Cebu. Hear mahku is here. Well I will be at Club Exotica and Silver Dollar tonight. Want to meet? I will not be doing any crying I am even sending my lady home to have the night off. So please be there. Hate to be disappointed.

Had my children with me in Cebu and Davao but I am out and about now. Want to get to Davao before Maurice goes back to USA. Should get there later but want to meet up with mahku here first. This I will enjoy.

Have plenty to Post but it can wait till after I run into Mahku. Got my woman with me still but will be sending her home as she would not want to be there.

DO NOT disappoint me mahku. I know you are excited to see me again. Your dozens of Posts and 20 or so PM's to me must make you anxious to see the Slayer again. Maybe you will even have the money you owe me for a year now. Right Stalker?

Dragon Slayer

[Mahku]

Unlike you Slayer, I'm where I said I would be. I'm in Dumaguete now and will be in Davao Wednesday to Friday, like you would know if you RTFF.

And by the way, it doesn't do a whole lot of good to tell me where you are tonight. Since you're STILL a regular member, your posts don't show up until the next day. Or maybe you posted this way so you could huff and puff and bluster, knowing that there's no way I would be there.

Yes, Mr. Multi-millionaire, I have your 600 pesos. I'm sure it was a stretch for you to get by without it.

20 PMs? More like 6 or 7 total in the last year. Mostly in reply to your personal attacks. I know you're good at convincing the gullible people here that you're some kind of victim. But I'm worried that you actually believe your own crap that you write.

Again, from now until Wednesday...Dumaguete, Wednesday night until Friday in Davao. Or, I have couple of hours Wednesday afternoon in Cebu between the boat from here and the flight. Please don't come back here and say that you're in some bar in China waiting for me to show up and looking forward to it. I'm getting embarrassed for you Slayer.

[Domino]

Some months ago, we were chatting about possible survivors of Japan's gallant Panther Division who took to the jungles around Gen Santos with some local beauties when MacArthur and his Goodfellas came back to town. Regular readers wil recall that was interesting. So too is our reenactment of same. We are taking to the hills with some really lovely cut price skanks who are totally lovable.
Gen Taro Takahashi Domino has shacked up with a tiny beauty who has stolen his heart. He swears this is one of the beauties he reported on in Davao but she denies it. And Domino san believes her. Seems like last February her 65 yo Danish boyfriend was in town to check up on his 5000 pesos a month investment. He was pissed to see her at her regular corner with her regular pimp and that romance has since died. These Cheap Charlies just don't get it.
Luckily for her the Panther Division fan club is in the area and Domino san has stepped into the breach. She is a real rice guzzler and must have been a beauty before she had her two kids; she is 22 or 23 and a nice kid, and a good lay, not that that matters. Sge stil beats all the witches posted on the Thai board, save The Big Breasted one (skinlesds) and Phuket Big Juges (PurplenGold). I ignore Coma Boy's porno.
Looks like Domino is turning a new leaf. He wants to help these women. Any tips on how to get mugs to send these women money will be deeply appreciated. In fact, I might even pass on lovations if you promised to pay them well. (Well I already gave the location, just off Rizal, near San Pedro and City hall).
On a related note: the choir boys on the Thai board are always at myself and Freeler for tasting the farm produce straight from the farm and they think they are hotshots coz they pay top $ for rubbish. I think Thailand may be better for a professional scene but the Philippines wins hands down for wife material. And the Internet babs here are also a piece of heaven.
Also, as Good Enough might be reading this: I think aid programs have this country fucked up. There is no way for the people, as a people to accumulate capital and thereby raise their living standards. This has to be the most fucked up country I have ever been in.

[Titi Tigas]

I have some business for two days in Davao next molnth, and am looking for advice. I have been to Manila many times, but this will be my first time down south.

My first question is: assuming I stay in town, what is the best place to stay? Price does not matter, but I am looking for a combination of high quality and proximity to mongering/pickup sites. I saw Marco Polo mentioned in this section; is that my best bet? It is very close to my clients, but I was not sure of the quality.

Second, I prefer non professionals. Any good suggestions on where to meet them (either ahead of time on the internet) or once there? Mahku mentioned some in a recent post, but if anyone else has ideas (or additional details on Mahku's places), I'd appreciate it.

Finally, another option I am considering is to bring a GF with me from Makati, and stay at Pearl Farm Beach Resort. Does anyone know if it is possible to commute from Pearl Farm to downtown? (Just one day is enough, and I can pay extra.) Or does anyone have a phone number or email address for Pearl Farm? Googling found me lots of sites that will book Pearl Farm for me, but no direct contact.

Thanks!

[GoodEnough]

Trav Man:

In my view the Marco Polo is the only place you should stay, expecially if money is not a major concern. For one thing, it's one of only two five stars here and for another, it's the only five star that's in the center of all the action. As to finding the non-pros, I would follow Mahku's advice. Check out the bars on Rizal. Check out the bars in and around the Venue compound, and the likelihood of success is high.

I'm actually meeting Mahku later tonight and I will ask him if he has other suggestions. I think he prefers Swig on Rizal to Bar 183, but since the two are only 15 meters apart, it's easy to get back and forth.

Let me know if you want to get together for a beer.

GE

[Domino]

After typing my post below, I picked up the nurse on the next monitor, treated her to breakfast and back to my luxury 250 pesos hotel at her suggestion. She was imoressed with the Bible (Gideon)and that I did not monger. We are meeting tomorrow for breakfast, 9 am at her place. The skank will have left by then.
She wants to stay late, till 6 am, as she does not drop her little girl off to school Saturdays. She also brings her little girl to Chrurch which Domino likes. Last night she wore a nice red blouse but insisted on going home to change before dropping her daughter off at school. Domino is into all that shit; he loves it.
He is also working out with Special Forces guys: they are into multiple martial arts and are built like WWW guys. He needs the training as he is bonking so much. This is a weird fucking place, lots of little nooks and corners you gotta know about when sticking your head in. He haslaso teamed up with some Muslim Jew haters as he likes the sea gypsy women.
No doubt about it: the Phils is heaven for ladies if you are any way nice, which probably rules out a lot of choir boys. One more thing: if you want to meet ordinary women do NOT stay at expensive hotels unless that is your thing. For hookers, money talks but for ordinary women, they speak the language of the heart, romance and roses, the language of
John T Domino
(the world's last great romantic)
Ps: the nurse is great. She bosses me round, tells me what to do and gives out to me. Just like a wife.

The Japanese did not stay at the Marco Polo when they were in town. I have asked my cheap skanks if they have even been there. Answer: No? They rattled off some 2-3 stars. Remember we are dealing with life's losers here. Most young women are on 4500 a month so you have to be in that range if you are not doing p4p.
As regards picking up ordinary women, try the following:
1. San Pedro Cathedral: Always lots of prettys in church but they may be hard to bed. Domino is on it.
2. The Beach at Night. Lots of skanks and their mamasans (this is a residue of Japanese culture, meaning female or even male pimps) go there to drink and bonk at night, Domino and his panthers tag along. BYO condoms. This is not for pussy cats.
3. Internet shops. I just picked up the love of my life in one and am now working on another. These women are gods.
If you meet a babe in an expat bar, she is looking for a money pot for her honey pot, not a sweet, innocent darling like
John T Domino:)
Davao is crawling with women, But if you have nothing to bring to the party, don't expect gfe. Be realistic.
Hey, kinda brings a tear to the eye with the 60th anniversary of Japan's surrender coming up. Man, I bet the Panthers had a ball.

[Domino]

So I told the skank GE had invited me for a meal in some Rizal St place. She knew it from when her 65 yo bf used to ring her there; spare ribs @ 280 pesos. Crazy. We were too busy bonking around the corner in San Pedro to visit.
Domino is actually very busy and he is revising his assessment of Japan's gallant Panther Division. He reckons they did not have a chance against the women of Mindanao. Domino had to hightail it back to the hotel to bonk the skank at 7. She has bought a house in a squatter place nd Domino's job is to buy the galvanized toof, wood etc and her family will build it. It is not clear what Domino gets out of this. Domino told her to get a plan. She says she has one: it is called Domino.
The skank's room mate is tragic: introduced to skanking at 12 by a rent boy, did some years in Cebu's Casa, well known for its Japanese mongers. She looks fantastidc but is, needless to say, very fucked up. Domino cannot handle that. She is 22 or 23.
Meanwhile, the nurse is invading my room SWAT style. She says she would call at 9 am but did a dramatic no knock entry at 6.30 am when Domino was doing his weights and had just seen skank off home. The nurse says we (!) should buy a house, only 1 or 2 million pesos. She brought me to her place for breakfast and nearly killed me (worst meal since in the punishment block of boot camp many years ago) I HAVE to meet her and the inlaws and friends again tonight.
Anyone here into cults and brainwashing? That is how they are wokring me over. Not a fucking minute tio myself. Sleep deprivation, pussy carrot and stick tactics. Then there are the taxi rides, ferries and trips up little alleys on motorbike taxis driven by little 12 year old hustlers past all these unemployed guys who look like they have only two hobbies: boxing and mugging.
Anyone remember the Children of God cult from the early 1970s? Their trick was to get you to fuck beautifukl babes and then sign you up to their whacko religion. Domino fucked he babes but did the old escape through the toilet window routine, Here he sees no escape. He is trapped.
The whackos on the AW thread talk about being pussy whipped. Tell me about it. Shit, my mother didn't even treat me like this when I was 4.
In summary: let us remember in silent contemplation the gallant fallen of Japan's Panther Division who fell iin Mindanao after MacArther returned. They were lemmings to the slaughter. Once these women get you, you are like a pilot shot down over Hanoi. No chance.

[X Man]

Two days out of Davao, I'm walking down a Cebu street with my new Davao t-shirt. Some western guy stops me and asks if I've been Davao. He explains he's going there and asks about hotel room under 800 pesos.

I have no idea. I did meet an online girl that had an out of town friend staying at the Midtown, just off of Rizal. It looked like a dump, but I never made it inside. It looked like an under 1000 place. Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

I stayeed at Leticia (again) for just under 2000. Great service and good location. DO NOT use the Internet at Leticia. Terribly over priced at 75 pesos per hour, and the connection is slow....even after I cleaned the crap out of the mouse.... There were places I passed that offerred 8 pesos during the wee hours.

Internet cafe's are greatly underrated as pick up places. In Manila, I had a girl sit down right next to me and within minutes she was flashing her tits. I got her mail and phone, but never followed through.

Oh, back to Davao hotels.... Next time I will try to get a good price at Apo View simply because they have a huge pool. I think they quoted me a price in the low 2000 area. Does anyone have a recent review of Apo?

[JuiceSpike]

Domino,

All too funny and it could only happen to you. In living color. Buy a house there and raise a family. Skank style. Good to see you are still alive.

juice

[Domino]

So another taxi up to the house to meet the babes and my inlaws. No sign of the chicas but inlaws all over the place. They are all into death squads and say what the Philippines needs is a leader, someone into killing Muslims and bad guys. Hey, I fit the job description, so we all become good friends, which is just as well as they are all armed to the teeth, dressed like LA gang members and drunk on cheap booze. Looks like Domino is going out Muslim bashing during the week. Domino tires of this shit and leaves to meet his new Muslim friends but not before Scarface and his friends sign him up fora Tuesday safari.
Getting into Muslim pussies is so easy it is a wonder Domino never figured it out before. Long term Skinless readers will know he has always praised the bj skills of the Muslim skanks of KL. Must be part of the package if last night's adventures are anything to go by.
Hint: this is a very high risk strategy and should only be done if you like dicing with your own life; it also helps to be a ninja. That said, it is easy and the key is to approach the Muslim brokers/hawkers, especially those selling porno, of which Domino disapproves but for which he now finds a use. Then start syhooting the breeze, about how dirty AW are to do that kind of stuff and that good Muslim women,,,,,,,,,
Christine, my working mum friend, stayed the night last night, probably just watching her pension plan (me) and her children's endowment plan (me). She looked really nice asleep at 4.30 am and i was tempted to take her pic but did not. I bonked her instead but I need the women to take the lead in that too. I am pussy whipped:(
As regards cheap Davao hotels: there are plenty around San Pedro Cathedral but they are all full now as the civil service exams are on today. It's kinda sad seeing all those hopefuls applying for a job in the civil service, which seems to be a who you know thing. They were all out studying in the cafe when Domino ate at 7.30 am.
Moving around the poor, as well as the death squads, this place really sucks for the locals. If they get an overseas job, the agency shakes them down and the corrupt government takes a big cut when they return to the Phils.
This place is crazy and suits Domino who stil maintains that cheap hotels and a bach bum style are the way to go.
I think I wil go to Church today to pray for all you sad fuckers. Lots of pretty ladies there too. Perhaps they can save me.

[Cebu Local]

Moving around the poor, as well as the death squads, this place really sucks for the locals. If they get an overseas job, the agency shakes them down and the corrupt government takes a big cut when they return to the Phils.
This place is crazy and suits Domino who stil maintains that cheap hotels and a bach bum style are the way to go.
I think I wil go to Church today to pray for all you sad fuckers. Lots of pretty ladies there too. Perhaps they can save me.[/QUOTE]
Wanted to give another perspective moving around the top of the Food Chain,If you are hanging out with the Local Elite,Life can be really great among the 1% that runs the place,Marconista can back me up on this since he is also quite close to some of the Families that own and run the Philippines.I was a guest 2 years ago of the Floriendo Family that owns the Pearl Farm Resort as well as almost half the bannana plantations in Davao.
I arrived at the airport and right away there was my pickup vehicle and the back up car with the usuall 3-4 bodyguards,We had sirens and flashers and broke all the traffic rules headed for the pier.At the pier,I was automatically at the head of the line,even ahead of the people who lined up an hour before,I spent 2 days at the resort before heading back to the city.We went to place called Eden Resort,A mountain resort owned by the Ayala family.They closed off the pool for our private party and for entertainment we had a pick of lovely ladies.Nothing extra to pay,all taken care off by Mr Floriendo.Then back to Cebu the following day.No need to line up at the Airport,My boarding pass was just handed to me.The point is I am not trying to show off,but that life is GOOD for the top 1% of the population that screws the remaining 99%.Yes this country is fucked up but not for the top 1%that runs the place

[GoodEnough]

Cebu Local is correct. Hanging around with the movers and shakers is a lot of fun. No waiting for anything. Ever. It's easy to forget though, when you're mingling with the elite, that their life style exists because of their total exploitation of the remaining 99% of the population. Because of my work, I flip flop between these two worlds consistently and I'm always struck by the sense of fatalism among the poorest. It's almost feudal, and there's no hope for anything changing any time soon.

GE

[Domino]

Gentlemen: Tomorrow is the 60th anniversary of Japan's sad surrender. There are still one million brave Japanese men unaccounted for, no doubt many of them in Mindanao;)
As regards elites, I have run with them in the past and I do not like them. That goes from everyone from the Skipper, aka the King of Thailand to his Pinoy incarnations such as the Glorias and Fredinand and his dumb wife. I regard these people as the shit of the earth and, obviously, very dangerous if crossed. They, imho, are the real prostitutes,
I prefer ordinary people doing ordinary things. The death squads are only hired hands with bad dress sense. They make me laugh at them.
By the way, Emma opposite San Pedro Cathedral is offering an 80 pesos Sunday special. I watched her gumlessly eat some fruit as she tried to solicit me and the lay preachers in the park. Not a pretty sight.
I watched the civil service examinees after their ordeal and had lunch with some of them: 2 plates of rice and nothing else only a smile. But I prefer their company and their modest dreams to the others. I call that taste; the others are tasteless and can only flash a wad or buy a woman. I can do those things myself. Nothing to it really.
So, time for more fun. I got rid of one and will ditch Christine tonight. I wil clean myself of my sins tonight and begin anew. In many ways, hookers are more honest. She asks me for my empty water bottles, my knives, my soap, my toilet paper, my baby oil, my baby powder and anything else she sees. And I give it to her as i am a generous guy:) But as regards the 10k or so pesos for the galvanized roof: gentlemen, step up tp the plate and help this deserving woman.
JTD

[Ralph Kramden]

lest we forget domino, 9-15-45 was a day of happiness and celebration, hardly of sadness. why don't you ask the philippinos if japan's surrender was sad.
a goodly portion of your "one million brave japanese men" were cold blooded ruthless killers. or have you forgotten events like the "[CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) of nanjing". in case you have,this article in the ny times today will refresh everyones memory about events that should never be forgotten.
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/08/14/national/14guam.html

[Ralph Kramden]

This is to correct my previous error. 8/15/45

[X Man]

Give me a break Ralph. The war ended sixty years ago....with two great big fuggin ruthlessly killing bombs. So what's the point? Ask the Filipinos? Yea, ask the Hiroshiminians and the Nagasakians. Ask my grandma. She says, "war is stupid".

Keep shitting on the Japanese. Yea, [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) um off just like 1941. Have you ever driven a Japanese car, or listened to a Japanese stereo, watched a J TV, used a J computer? SUPERIOR QUALITY, UNSURPASSED TECHNOLOGY.

They also rely 30% of their energy --- nuclear power. They have the fuel, they have the technology.....just keep kicking them in the crotch.

My guess is it would take them five days max to make one big friggin ruthless bomb....just keep kickin man. The Koreans and the Chinese are hard at it. [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) em off big time.....yea....go for it Ralph.

Ralph, if you fought in world war two...I'll apologize now. If not, let's try a little reality.

Domino....those 90 year old Panthers are going to come out of the mountains a give you an ass whoopin....

X

[X Man]

Damn, I had so much to write about Davao.

Unfortunately, during my trip I was cut off from WSG (now ISG). I don't know why, but I couldn't log in.

Back home here in "the far east" I can log in and see that there has been a whole lot of reports on Davao. I agree with all of it. Good stuff.

A while back there were reports of the sex scene being exagerrated here. P4P, that is true. But, I think what you can really say is that there aren't many foreigners here so your game doesn't have to be as sophisticated as Manila or Cebu. (how many of you busted out laughing at that?). Give a girl your number and she'll probably text you before the night is over. Hell, I gave a girl my number at the counter in the mall...she texted me before I made it to the exit and we were lip locked five hours later.....too bad it was my last night...never got her to my room.

In Cebu and Manila, the girls know what's going on. They know that guys are trying to pick up girls at the mall. They know there are prostitutes all over Ermita.... In Davao, you can approach almost any lady and get a favorable response. There isn't the same sense of "bad guys" out on the prowl. Of course, some of you seem to be working hard at chaning that.

Ummm, I guess I should say you need to be somewhat respectful, clean, properly dressed..... Every girl I met / dated / screwed the entire time I was in PI was about half my age and weight. I add this only because so many guys here spout off about their conquests, but don't say much about who they are. I was 19 the first time I went to PI. 25 years later, 20 pounds heavier, I'm still bedding ladies just as young and fine as when I was 19. Hmm, I actually do a bit better depending on the situation.

The go go bars in Davao are crap. They are dark and you really can't see the girls. Lots of street girls, some of which look okay. Got one into my room but she asked for the money in advance. I said, "tomorrow morning". She started giving me crap about rules and she has rules....and I said, "This is my holiday and this is my hotel room -- I make the rules." Gave her 100 pesos and threw her out....damn, did she get quiet. I bet she doesn't try to make rules next time she's getting ready to spread her legs.

Sorry if this is disjointed. Like I said, didn't get to send in stuff while I was in PI.

[Spam Hog]

I see from a few of your posts you have an interest in Boxing/martial arts, if you're still around this Tuesday why not drop by NCCC in Matina and say Hi, members of our club are going to be in a Kick boxing tourny. Later this Month its Kadayawan festival at magSaysay where the lads will be in full contact Karate and also Arnis (Stick fighting). Come around and say HI to the spamhog, (just look for the biggest ugliest white guy) I might be reffing or coaching. Also if you want you can come around our Dojo in Matina most evenings, some of these guys can give you a hell of a work out!
errrh...if you come by a bit early you can ogle the Ladies aerobic class....always a good pick up opportunity.

[Domino]

Cash Down: When the lady asks for money up front, cash down as they call it, just put the money on the table with something on it as a paper weight and say service first, cash later. I hope this helps solve the inter cultural problems.
No need Jap bashing. The NY Times wrote some real racist shit about the Japanese after Pearl Harbor. I wonder how many of those old Panthers did get out to bonk. Not very many I guess. Japan, incidentally has enough uranium to build more nuclear bombs than the USA and Russia combined.
The main point is the ladies here are nice and the Japanese talk goes back to earlier ones about 90 year old Japanese soldiers surfacing near Gen Santos.
By the way, if anyone wants to help me and Chrostine with educating our children, she is 1000 pesos long time. Like most hookers, she likes to sleep a lot. She reckons I am the EASIEST and NICEST customer she has ever pussy whipped.
My ddeath squad buddies tell me not to fear the bombs (which I don't) but to fear the kidnapping (which I do).
The fact that there are not many white guys here is a huge plus.
Anyway, big carnival coming up this week, so time to party.
As regards being cut off (like the Panthers), some Internet cafes have the site blocked. Getting women here is like shoooting fish in a barrel. Better wife material than Thailand and no talk of feeding your dick to the ducks.

[X Man]

Has anyone been to this place?

I actually saw an ad for this place in a Burgos bar and then searched on the Internet to find more info. I had already left Davao.

Moonlight Club - Cabaguio Ave Davao City Tel : (082) 221 8445 Karoke and GRO lounge
(If you search this place on the Net, click on the word "lounge" to see a picture)
corner of J.P. Laurel and Bajada.

X

[GoodEnough]

Moonlight is probably the best looking GRO-type bar in Davao. Until recently, it was owned by a French Doctor and his Filipina wife and he designed the bar to resemble a small, French bistro. He sold it to a Swiss man who now runs the place. It's located on Cabaggio, just off Bajada Road, and is on the same street as the Roman Plaza.

On any given night, it's got about 12 women, and the barfine, including the lady's time is PhP2,000. The place also has an excellent collection of jazz, blues and rock tunes. It has a large VIP room and several smaller VIP booths, though I do not know what these cost. The bar also has a small dance platform on which the girls start to perform, in various stages of semi-nudity, at about 11.

The proprieter of Moonlight also owns a place next door called Interlude, which features male strippers. It's very popular with middle age matrons here, who sometimes take one of the "boys" into the VIP room at Moonlight for some private entertainment.

The quality of the girls available has improved somewhat since the new owners took over. I like the place because there's no pressure at all. It's attractive, and the music is terrific.

:D

GE

[Dragon Slayer]

Pals,

I extended my stay in Cebu when I heard the mahku was there still. After 30+ PMs to me and all his comments, I thought we should meet again. I literally visited every Club in uptown and elsewhere from Saturday, Sunday, Monday and Tuesday of last week. Left messages in each place with the Owners, Managers and several of the girls. Gave out my cell # and told them a nice fee would be paid them if they texted me when he arrived (they had a detailed description of him). I told the Manager in each Club to tell him the Dragon Slayer was looking for him. Heard "good night Dragon Slayer" at each Club as I departed.

He proved to be an elusive one. No where to be found and each night on my return I was informed that no one matching him was in there all night. Too bad. I then travelled to a remote island city by the sea for the weekend. I met a gorgeous 19 y/o co-ed last Saturday night. I will Post on this later. I am in Cebu again as I extended my Trip. having A GREAT TIME. Off to Davao next. Alone this time and hoping to see several lovely ladies here. Perhpas the mahku will show himself at O'Flanagan's. Now I have to meet a 20 y/o with huge tits. Tough life but the Slayer has to live it.

Dragon Slayer

[Mahku]

Dragon Slayer,

Have no idea what you're going on about. I am touched that you've put such time and effort into finding me (stalking?). And thanks for the indirect complement about my writing. I only sent you about 8 PMs TOTAL in the last year. If they looked like 30 to you I guess they made quite an impression.

Anyway, I left clear information about where I could be found (see posts 761 and 765 below). But for some reason you were mysteriously unable to figure this out and show your face when it counted. Your shenanigans about looking around Cebu make entertaining reading but the impression continues that you're just a blowhard who has no substance. I was here. I said I was here. You didn't follow through and meet me face to face. I called your bluff after all your threats and your best response is to keep posting these lies and loads of crap from a safe distance.

No matter for me. It left more time for me to see the girls I came here for AND report here about it like this forum was meant for. Glad I didn't have to waste my time on some posturing pretender.

[Domino]

SH: I am mostly into kendo, which is a glorious Japanese marital arts. The Japanese riot police are all trained in it and don't ever fuck with them if you know what is good for you; O like that in Japan: the fat local cop who is a joke and the ruthless hard as nails riot cops; the secret police are scary: you just have to look at their ears to see what their hobbies are. Kendo also proved very useful when the Japs and Yanks duked it hand to hand in WW11. There are a lot of very fit guys in Davao and they have already had the pleasure of decking me.
I'm gone soft of heart now and skanks like Christine even say I am their easiest and softest mark. Up to a point! I figure if I pay 1000 pesos and hear honestly about their lives and hopes with some sex thrown in, I am ahead. I am easily pleased.
Davao strikes me as much better than Manila: less rampaging poverty, a Dirty Harry mayor, very cheap. Did he clean up ALL the bad guys? I know he got some veyr hostile press over death squads bumping off street urchins and stuff like that.

[Mahku]

Decided to spend the last 2 days (10th to the 12th) of the trip here with the lovely co-ed that made the best impression. Unfortunately we couldn't meet the first night because someone at her college made off with her wallet and cell phone, and those of 4 of her friends. My fondest hope for the person who did this is that they get run over by the pig truck I saw on the way to the airport. I'm more ticked off about the lost time I could have spent with my girl than anything.

I stayed in the Marco Polo again, and got some knowing smirks from the security guards when I checked in. I hope they weren't disappointed that I was only with one girl this time.

During these days I checked into O'Flanagans and the convenience store several times, just to see if Dragaon Slayer might be there. But I guess when he read that I would be here he felt safer pretending to look for me in Cebu. At least I had the pleasure of meeting Spam Hog and other expats living in Davao

The last day I got to spend mostly with my girl, buying her a few things and eventually she started to cheer up. In the evening we met up with GE and others at De Bonte Koe. The area around here often has a lot of students running around. They seem to especially like Someplace Else, right by De Bonte Koe, and the open air barbecue places which you can see if you go left from the door of De Bonte Koe. Also, if you want to see the girls that politicians and high rollers like, look into the Red Bar. It's right across the path from De Bonte Koe. Everyone in here was very friendly, including the several VIPs I saw drinking here. Of course it goes without saying that one should use caution about hitting on girls in here. Finally, there's a place here that seems to do mostly Latin music, but I can't remember the name well. I think it's Chico's or something like that? Most nights of week, Sundays excepted, it's worth checking the scene in this area.

[GoodEnough]

You're correct Mahku, the place is called Chicos and it's directly in front of the Red Bar on Rizal St. It's got a vareity of reasonably decent live music that includes old rock and salsa and other Latino flavors. It seems to be more popular with couples than with singles, though I've never really scouted it when I was alone. It's also a very popular spot for dancing on the week ends, due to the large outdoor dance floor.

Too bad you had to go back when you did. This week is the Davao Kidayawan (sp?) festival, and it's one big street party. The upper portion of Rizal is closed to traffic and it's party time at all the bars and extending into the middle of the road. Anyone who cannot get laid here in the next couple of days has serious problems.

:D

GE

[Spam Hog]

Domino,

Yes I have studied kendo and back in the "Old days" we used it in our riot control (Wash DC goon squad call SOF) we practice a version of it here in Davao our Arnis fencing equipment helmet and body armor is modeled after Kendo gear. Japanese martial arts are popular here, Aikido especially but the primarily fencing art is arnis, a good arnisador will whack the shit out of you. Anyhow, I've also notice the phallic implication of the use of various martial arts weapons, nothing like getting her all lathered up after a good session and then going down south, make her clutch that stick and scream to high heaven.

Anyhow, we will be at Magsaysay park all Sunday if anyone wants to drop by an say hello.

SH

[Davao 01]

Hi X man,

We always stay in hotel Elena, Avenida Santos, Nova Tierra Village, Davao City.
It's a good hotel and the rate is around P1200 per night, including American breakfast.

The hotel is situated close to the airport and they will pick you up from the airport when you arrive.

Tel: 082-233-1941, fax: 233-1887


Two days out of Davao, I'm walking down a Cebu street with my new Davao t-shirt. Some western guy stops me and asks if I've been Davao. He explains he's going there and asks about hotel room under 800 pesos.

I have no idea. I did meet an online girl that had an out of town friend staying at the Midtown, just off of Rizal. It looked like a dump, but I never made it inside. It looked like an under 1000 place. Anyone have any suggestions or comments?

I stayeed at Leticia (again) for just under 2000. Great service and good location. DO NOT use the Internet at Leticia. Terribly over priced at 75 pesos per hour, and the connection is slow....even after I cleaned the crap out of the mouse.... There were places I passed that offerred 8 pesos during the wee hours.

Internet cafe's are greatly underrated as pick up places. In Manila, I had a girl sit down right next to me and within minutes she was flashing her tits. I got her mail and phone, but never followed through.

Oh, back to Davao hotels.... Next time I will try to get a good price at Apo View simply because they have a huge pool. I think they quoted me a price in the low 2000 area. Does anyone have a recent review of Apo?

[Domino]

Is this Dirty Harry mayor still going strong? Where does he get his money from? And do they only whack crims and NPA's?

[Cebu Local]

Is this Dirty Harry mayor still going strong?YES VERY STRONG HE GOT APPOINTED A PRESIDENTIAL ADVISERWhere does he get his money from?THIS IS THE PHILIPPINES DO YOU HAVE TO ASK?? And do they only whack crims and NPA's?NO,THEY ALSO WHACK MEDIA,HUMAN RIGHTS ACTIVISTS,ETC WHOEVER IS IN THE WAY OF THE ELITEHope this clarifies your questions

[Domino]

Cebu: It leads to a lot more. Sorry for forgetting the journalists but I did not think many were done around Davao. As the Phils has spot #1 in the world for whacking journos, is there no comeback on that? Irrespective of one's political take, is there not a downside for Gloria having Dirty Harry as an advisor? Any American comparison would have to be very extreme, someone very to the right of Ollie North for example.

[Cebu Local]

Cebu: It leads to a lot more. Sorry for forgetting the journalists but I did not think many were done around Davao. As the Phils has spot #1 in the world for whacking journos, is there no comeback on that? Irrespective of one's political take, is there not a downside for Gloria having Dirty Harry as an advisor? Any American comparison would have to be very extreme, someone very to the right of Ollie North for example.Domino
Duterte has brought relative peace and quiet to the streets of Davao,Just like Mayor Tommy Osmena s "hunter squads"bring safety and relative calm to Cebu City.Last month over 20-25 criminals got final justice.In a particularly spectacular killing,A robber posted bail and was shot as he walked out of the COURTHOUSE.Several have shot while out on BAIL.In fairness it solves the revolving door system,many criminals have waived their right to bail and voluntarily asked to be detained for their own safety,while undergoing trial.Some have even pleaded guilty to save their lives.A notorious holdupper was found NOT GUILTY ,because nobody wanted to testify against him.He was shot at home the next day.there is peace and quiet.but the peace and quiet of the GRAVEYARD.Political comeback????,She uses Duterte to intimidate her political enemies.Many political opponents of her in Mindanao have suddenly proclaimed GMA the greatest after midnight visits by the Davao death squad.Remember the Anti GMA rallies in Davao.Ask Spam Hog and GE,If they havent quieted down after Duterte s people had a nice talk about their life expectancy with some of their leaders

[Domino]

Cebu: I had been led to believe forom here and talking to people that the Gloria protests faded as people are just fed up of it. Your last post is a bit scary. When guns and killing predominate, law and order go out the window. (law does in any event). What is to stop these people asking you and others for massive donations, for outright protection money in other words? Where is the countrer force or is this like Central America in the early 1980s?

[Cebu Local]

Cebu: I had been led to believe forom here and talking to people that the Gloria protests faded as people are just fed up of it. Your last post is a bit scary. When guns and killing predominate, law and order go out the window. (law does in any event). What is to stop these people asking you and others for massive donations, for outright protection money in other words? Where is the countrer force or is this like Central America in the early 1980s?Who said that foriegn businessmen like me do not donate to the powers that be,and besides this is all in the shadows and the back pages of the paper.That is usually page 6-8 of the Sunstar and Freeman.Drug Pusher Killed,2 Robbers shot etc.Doesnt bother me or my business.Bottom life Cebu is SAFE for the farang yellow,White and whatever shade of farang.But I better move future discussions to the Cebu thread

[Domino]

Cebu: Thanks a lot for your insights. Guess I have to do a lot more thinking to get my head around that sad place. I guess my bottom line is I abhor people like that who abuse entire nations. I guess Gloria and friends are just better at spin than the Myanmar loonies or Mugabe. It does not look like a place for the long term until one remembers the poor always lose.

[Spitfire]

Duterte says something is up ...... be careful out there guys!

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/dav/2005/08/23/news/.something.big.threatens.city.html

[GoodEnough]

That this is a "sad" place is undeniable. In fact, it's a continuing parody of a bad soap opera, and in the (almost) 24 months I've been here, I still cannot get my head around the Philippines. Having said that, I do not believe the reason lies exclusively in the exploitateiveness of the politicians. Hell, we needn't look as far as the PI for politicians who, in Domino's words "abuse an entire country." George Bush and his cronies are the absolute masters of abuse, yet the US still survives and even prospers.

I think the problem here may be that the Philippines has never been successful in creating a real sense of nationhood. There's little commitment here, at least from what I've observed, to the idea of "nation" as opposed to clan or much narrower geographic identifiers. This may be due to the 7,000 plust islands that comprise the country. It may be due to the fact that, prior to the Spanish occupation, the islands were more or less mini states in their own right, or it may be attributable to factors I know nothing about

This is the only country in which I've been in Asia in which an estimated 70% of the citizens say that they would emigrate if given the chance. /This suggests to be that most of the people do not view the future with much optimism and have no shared commitment to building a more productive, happier and more prosperous nation.

I've lived and worked in Vietnam, Thailand, Malaysia, and Laos, and never felt the sense of futility that characterizes the Philippines.


GE

[Domino]

So! Granules of truth emerge. This country has been rightly fucked over. In my eyes, I see the justification for armed revolution. However, Pinoy peaceniks I speak to say all the left offer is hopelessness and revolution. We all agree on the hopelessness. But where is the alternative to revolution? It won't come to blood as the country is so fucked over there are no two stones standing on top of each other. Bolivar never saw anything as bad. The tragedy is all the worse as we live in an information age and Pinoys almost dominate some corners of the web - and their journos die at a higher rate than hacks in Iraq. Do journalists not obejct to that? Or does Gloria let them object?
Although I prefer the Pinoys to the Thais (no disrespect there except to the Skipper and similar assholes), yet Thailand is streets ahead civil society wise.

[GoodEnough]

One of the Senior members of this board objected to my comparison of the Bush White House to "masters of abuse." I apologize if in fact this comparison offended anyone. Of course, I was being flippant, and it never occurred to me that anyone would seriously think I was comparing a US administration with the likes of Mugabe and others of his ilk. The only point I was trying to make, admittedly through the use of hyperbole, was that the sadness (or general despair) of this place cannot be attributed solely to political mismanagement. Again, I did not mean to be offensive, and I'm sorry if I was.

I do not want to get drawn into the debate about the Mayor here, though I can tell you that most of the expats who live here (not a large community) in general, like him a great deal. He's extremely protective of foreigners, and he's made this a pretty safe place. As to the threat of imminent "problems" the Kidayawan festival went on for four days last week, drawing crowds in the thousands. There were no violent incidents reported, and everyone seems to have had an excellent time. Seems to me that if there were going to be any trouble, it would have been during the festival.

Ciao,

GE

[Surfer]

or other dictators INCLUDING Saddam. So I think there was no reason for you to apologize "good enough". Rather, it is the Senior member who apparently supports the Bush regime who should apologize to the World for the evil done IN OUR NAME by his champion.

As for the dysfunctional Philippine political sysyem, let us not lose sight of the fact that is modeled closely on the US system. Just as individuals in power are currently abusing the US system (by use of recess appointments, threats to eliminate the centuries old tradition of the filibuster in the Senate etc etc), individuals can also abuse the Philippine system, even if the system itself is basically sound (Thailand is not a "democracy" hence it cannot be compared to the PI which is an imperfect democracy). The system ran fine under FVR (until they decided against amending the charter to allow him to serve another term-a charter modeled on the anti-FDR amendment to the US Constitution). This same amendment, with an assist from the disgrace formerly called the US Supreme Court, resulted in us losing William Jefferson Clinton and getting 8 years of "leadership" by Dumbo/Rove.

As regards Gloria, the REAL problem is that she comes from a family built on corruption (think her daddy was less corrupt than Marcos? NOT likely). Further, she is so beholden to Jaime Sin & the former Joseph Ratzinger (now called Pope Benedict XVI), and their organization is is the cause of so many of the PIs problems (number 1: OVERPOPULATION! number 2: unsustaniable growth rate! number 3: out of control teenage pregnancies etc etc etc).

Let us not forget that she replaced ERAP, a distant relative of Ferdinand and just as corrupt! While Cory was honest and well intentioned, she was in over her head and was never meant to be a politician (Ninoy either).

There is but one solution for the PI: Bring back Ramos (although even he would not be willing to stand up to the Bully in the White House!). Marami selamat po.

[GoodEnough]

Surfer:

I do not think it's the political system here that's abusive, but the people who operate the control levers. This country could switch to a Federal, Parliamentary system tomorrow and little or nothing would change, except the loci of corruption and mismanagement. There seems to be no concept here, from the perspective of the political hacks, of actually working for the betterment of "the people." The entire places is based on opportunities for self-aggrandizement, either financial, political, or both.

I used to think that the problem lay with the oligarchy that runs the national government. Basically, the same small group of people have been in power forever. But more recently I've observed the same patterns of behavior in the political machinations of barangays and municipalities, so I guess the practices are universal. It's a rare and short-lived politician here who has any motivation beyond accumulating wealth and power for himself (or herself) and his cronies.

The difference between this place and the US, is that first, the US has institutions which, though they may sputter from time to time, actually work, and can survive the temporary hiccups of venal politicians. Secondly, the country is so rich that its economy can tolerate fairly high levels of corruption and/or mismanagement. The fact is, that in the US, as in Europe and Japan, people pay taxes, the government has a stream of income, and laws are, by and large, enforced. None of the aforementioned is true here. According to a recent poll, more than 70% of the people in the poorest region of Mindanao have never paid property taxes. Income tax evation is a national sport, and the politicians and bureaucrats steal a large percentage of the revenue stream that does trickle in. Were it not for the hard currency that the country rakes in from it's pantheon of overseas workers, my guess is that the economy would have deflated already.

There's a vicious, self-perpetuating cycle of decline here. When asked why they refuse to pay taxes, the typical response is that politicians will only steal the money anway (by and large true). Conversely, when asked why so little development here is actually funded by the government, politicians will respond that it's because people do not pay their full share of taxes so there's not enough money. And so it goes.

:D

GE

[Domino]

Bongiorno

Surfer's argument falls down by calling for a Ramos Moses duce figure to lead the Pinoys into the Promised land; looking for a Savior is a sign of helplessness and hopelessness. Bush, Clinton and the others are only figureheads for their parties and those who influence those parties and who strike the deals that get them to the White House. 70% of Pinoys want to leave the Pi but, mongers apart, few Americans want to leave. (and mongers are not 70% of US citizens unless a lot of grannies are mongering).
The problem as I see it are not high birth rates (which give hope, however bizarrely for the future) or religion which offers the same. The problem seems to be that a relatively well educated people have been cowed into silence and into obsequience. To the extent that they encourage that servility, the religions are guilty. There is no strong labor movement or agrarian movement, nothing to the left of Genghis Khan.
As to what can be done (to quote Lenin): very little I fear. What democratically leaning person or group could invest heavily in a country where death squads rule, benignly or not, the land? Under the Ameircan system, the party machines have to spread the gravy. Under the Pi system, they spread the ketchup.

[Fred C Dobbs]

A friend of mine once pointed out that every latin country he had been to was corrupt at some level. At first thought it seemed like a silly idea, however the more I thought about it the more it fit my experience.

[Surfer]

Please explain how FURTHER overpopulation can give "hope for the future". More folks can go overseas to send remittances? Good for BPI and BNP perhaps, but good for the greater good? I think not.

Domino poohpoohs my suggestion that a Ramos style leader is what the PI needs while he seems to advocate anarchy or something with this talk of revolution. Do you think removing GMA would really change much? And you would YOU replace her with?

Good enough makes some excellent points. It is the people, not the system, but then again the people are the PRODUCT of the system. This all reminds me of the many years of love/hate relationship I had with the PI before turning my attention elsewhere (when I married a Filipina).

On another subject, and asking those who LIVE there, how does Pasko affect the search for a ST honeyko? Do they head to join their families in the Bundok causing a shortage? Are they more negotiable when they need a few pisos for presents? Debating how to time my December trip to Vietnam and the PI. Always left in early December (great in Manila/Luzon except for EDSA traffic which is even worse than usual), and I KNOW to avoid Holy Week like the plague, but am considering spending Pasko itself in the PI.

Marami Selamat Po

[Cebu Local]

Please explain how FURTHER overpopulation can give "hope for the future". More folks can go overseas to send remittances? Good for BPI and BNP perhaps, but good for the greater good? I think not.

Domino poohpoohs my suggestion that a Ramos style leader is what the PI needs while he seems to advocate anarchy or something with this talk of revolution. Do you think removing GMA would really change much? And you would YOU replace her with?

Good enough makes some excellent points. It is the people, not the system, but then again the people are the PRODUCT of the system. This all reminds me of the many years of love/hate relationship I had with the PI before turning my attention elsewhere (when I married a Filipina).

On another subject, and asking those who LIVE there, how does Pasko affect the search for a ST honeyko? Do they head to join their families in the Bundok causing a shortage? Are they more negotiable when they need a few pisos for presents? Debating how to time my December trip to Vietnam and the PI. Always left in early December (great in Manila/Luzon except for EDSA traffic which is even worse than usual), and I KNOW to avoid Holy Week like the plague, but am considering spending Pasko itself in the PI.

Marami Selamat PoI had dinner last night with members of a prominent business family that owns one of the top corporations in the country.We were discussing the concept of nobody killing the kings,for example when the elite fight among themselves,they sacrifice their pawns knights and bishops but never their Kings.Marcos broke the rules,when he killed Ninoy.I discovered 2 of the witnesses who testified against the President were killed last week and several have gone into hiding.No wonder the case against the President is falling apart and so many witnesses have retracted.Elite wars are fought like this,The followers kill each other while their bosses get together for cocktails,meetings lunches until one side"wins".Anyway our agenda was the mess the Labor Secretary was making at the Manila International school and How we were going to get her removed from office.The joint chamber of commerces of US,Canada,ANZ etc have already sent an open letter for her head.I am active in the Canadian Chamber.We were discussing the media campaign,Ads in the papers etc.Bottom line is Imagine a scene where a group of businessmen can get together and casually discuss removing a cabinet member

Regarding a search for a Honey Ko in Christmas time,There is no problem in early December,Since they are hustling to earn Christmas money,Just remember they go home from Dec 23-January 2.So they are more negotiable because of their need.

[Cebu Local]

What democratically leaning person or group could invest heavily in a country where death squads rule, benignly or not, the land? Under the Ameircan system, the party machines have to spread the gravy. Under the Pi system, they spread the ketchup.[/QUOTE]
An American Canadian group has invested billions of pesos in a Casino complex in Eastridge near Antipolo,A Canadian Mining company just took over a Philippine mining company called APEX Mining for 350-400 million pesos.They are making good money in a sick society where Anti Gambling proponents,Enviromentalists etc quickly suffer cases of lead poisoning courtesy of a couple of bullets

[Surfer]

Good to know (will make sure I am back in Budhhist Vietnam by that time).

Your discussion of contacts with an elite family are interesting. Would it start with an A or O by chance (let me buy a vowel LOL)?

[Domino]

An American Canadian group has invested billions of pesos in a Casino complex in Eastridge near Antipolo,A Canadian Mining company just took over a Philippine mining company called APEX Mining for 350-400 million pesos.They are making good money in a sick society where Anti Gambling proponents,Enviromentalists etc quickly suffer cases of lead poisoning courtesy of a couple of bullets
Sounds like pre Castro Cuba. Or Bolivia or places with armed camp type places with resources and lead eating gambling/corruption opponents. I was not thinking about primary industries or the disgusting crime of casinos. (in a fucked up place like the Pi or pre Castrol Cuba).I meant more economic lift off like Thailand, Malaysia and South Korea have all had to greater extents than the Pi. I laos assume your 400 million pesos for a mine is a typo.
Armed Revolution and more babies: I am advocating neither. People have to live in hope so of course they have babies when they are denied anything else. I also can't blame helpless people being screwed though I would like to understand it. As regards armed revoluton or a Chavez types figure, ain't gonna happen for at least a few more years, I reckon. One truly fucked up country.

[Cebu Local]

[QUOTE=Domino]Sounds like pre Castro Cuba. Or Bolivia or places with armed camp type places with resources and lead eating gambling/corruption opponents. I was not thinking about primary industries or the disgusting crime of casinos. (in a fucked up place like the Pi or pre Castrol Cuba).I meant more economic lift off like Thailand, Malaysia and South Korea have all had to greater extents than the Pi. I laos assume your 400 million pesos for a mine is a typo. NOPE THE HEADLINE IN THE BUSINESS SECTION YESTERDAY WAS CANADIAN FIRM BUYS APEX MINING CORPORATION FOR 7 MILLION DOLLARS.IT WAS FORMERLY OWNED BY THE PUYAT FAMILY

[Cebu Local]

Good to know (will make sure I am back in Budhhist Vietnam by that time).

Your discussion of contacts with an elite family are interesting. Would it start with an A or O by chance (let me buy a vowel LOL)?
CORRECT,A BUSINESS FAMILY