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Dragon Slayer

08-16-06, 04:37

Pals,

Please DO read Posts back here. You will find almost all questions answered this way. Ground Zero is the convenience store at the corner of J Camus & Ilustre Sts. I named it this 3 years ago due to its ideal location in the center of the nightlife of Davao AND due to how it starts at 7:00PM with lovely nurses, coeds, and other regular girls sitting here. Progresses on to have semi-pro and sleazier, regular ladies from 9:00PM onward and the Pros start dropping by after 10:00PM.

This place closes at 02:30AM outside, at least. They have live music outside and servers from 7:00PM when the night begins here in d/t Davao. It is dead usually during the daytime but I ate at the outdoor tables once with Annie a couple years ago and again last summer around noon with the Lady Politician here I was seeing. With O'Flanagan's not opening until 3:00PM in Maurice's abscene this is one place to eat d/t during the daytime. Henny's two restaurants and Claude's are other choices over on Rizal Street,as is Sturo on J Camus.

Davao is primarily a nightlife city for chasing pussy. I have a lady with me during the day, hit one of the massage parlors, such as in Apo View Hotel or meet friends or a woman for lunch. I am not a big beach person but it is nearby and definitely a good place to go during the day.

I posted the other day on my thoughts concerning recent events with a couple chinese ladies and filipinas I have been involved with over the last three years in Davao and southern china. I was NOT generalizing. My comment was "I wonder if" NOT "this is how it is". The same people here consistently comment negatively when I make anything but a general report. I was NOT talking about my daughter's mother in Leyte, my son's mother in Cebu ( she just has trouble understanding english over the phone) or many other women I know here.

Plain and simple I was very surprised that these women, even after learning the circumstances that had just taken place in my life, felt the need to attempt, at least, to devastate me further.Why this, like the "Nightmare on Rizal Street" post would generate comment from men on this Board amazes me.

In an event, I leave in 9 hours and I need to pack. I am happy to hear the one guy followed my suggestion and scored some awesome pussy on the Streets of d/t Davao. I will be there soon.

I look forward to seeing many of you here next week or perhaps, Sunday evening on the rooftop of my Hotel in Cebu for Daniel's Champagne Party. Many of you have confirmed you will attend. PM me if you want to also join in and meet my baby son.

Dragon Slayer

Mahku

08-16-06, 10:52

backups, backups, always have backups. i always tell myself this and anyone who will listen. my problem on this trip is that i'm going to about a dozen countries over 6 months, with multiple stops in each place. so chatting up, getting to know and arranging to meet girls in each place is a massive job that's spreading me pretty thin. so even though i've been to davao a lot and know several women there, things didn't go as smoothly as i hoped. i really need to consider hiring a long, leggy secretary to help me with the prep work for all these places.

i arrived here a week ago, had a nice dinner with ge and his lady. a girl that i knew (in all senses) last year was along as well as a friend of hers. so far so good...

snags: as i said this first girl had been dependable to get physical before and i thought she was a sure thing again. but apparently a recent breakup with a boyfriend was making her a headcase. so she played the avoidance game for several days. that first night i took her and her friend to blue room but hints to take her and/or her friend back to my room fell flat. the next two days were more of the same. another girl who had made it sound like she was a sure thing backed out of meeting me at the last minute. then i met a third girl last year. she was a shy, shrinking violet then. but in her recent chats she had been more confident and flirty. in person she was back to the shy thing, and was deathly afraid to meet other foreigners at de bonte koe.

so it was a bad start. but things got better after this. i dug deeper into the list of backups but meeting these took time to set up since, thinking i wouldn't need them, i hadn't told them i was in town. meanwhile a kind forum member stepped in and offered me a contact which rejuvenated the week. she was a true gfe, temporarily demure but a wildcat in bed when things got going. then the newer backups started kicking in and things were back on track. one showed up in one of those white uniforms, which is a true delight to a perv like me. to top things off the very first girl of the week got over her breakup and was ready for the rebound. the last 3 days i was back to juggling more than i could handle, which is how things should be in davao. the moral of the story is that you can never have too many girls up your sleeve in each town. now a little about some of our favorite spots around town:

o'flanagan's: the situation here has been reported already, but maurice is indeed out of the country until at least october. according to the waitresses there (the same ones as before, at least that didn't change) the owner of the building is looking for buyers. so our favorite davao irish bar may soon be history.

de bonte koe: still a great place to meet friends, expats and take a regular girl out for a dinner date. the owner is a great friend to have in town and a good contact about scuba diving. also, he has taken over the place that used to be red bar opposite dbk, and now serves a generally spanish menu.

someplace else: this is in the same place as de bonte koe. there are a number of cute waitresses here. the owner seems to know how to pick 'em. it seems he has to replace them often as they are picked up and whisked off by horny expats. the only thing is i think some of these girls have jealous filipino boyfriends that are on the scene drinking red horse beer. one night i was here the girls were looking afraid and not making eye contact because of this.

liquid in the apo view: gone and replaced by a different setup. the wall has been knocked out and the waterfall window is gone. now it's more like a kind of lounge/piano bar. it's nice enough but i liked things before. you may be able to pick someone up her but it was definitely a better mongering situation under the old setup.

blue room: also in the apo view but to the right of the main entrance. they seem to play mostly jazz here. it's a mostly groups at tables situation. the one night i was here with some girls i didn't see anything to hit on and i haven't heard about anything from other reports here either.

venue (main disco): even on a saturday night the crowd here was sparse and the upstairs closed off. i came back with a girl on monday night and it was almost completely empty but there were a couple of all-woman tables.

venue (halo disco): got here too late on saturday night as it was starting to close. i brought a girl here on monday night and it was empty but that suited my purpose fine as that meant there were dark corners to do dirty dancing with my girl. it seemed to help loosen her up for later bedroom antics. halo seems to have hired a few hottie girls to gyrate in the window and attract customers. it's not clear if these girls are tied to the bar or are free to be chatted up and/or taken out. further investigation is necessary.

venue (others): the open area here is full of outdoor seating from several restaurants and bistros. i didn't see anything this week but i'm sure it's a ymmv kind of place. bar 1 is said to often attract the good-looking regular girls, but i didn't see anything on the late saturday night that i looked.

auto shop: near victoria plaza and gaisano malls. it's a mostly open air collection of bars, barbecues, cafes and an enclosed disco or two. i was here last year and it seemed to be a younger crowd. this time it seemed to be more like college age or maybe the same kids are just a year older now? but i will have to say that the saturday night here was stocked with hot hot girls dressed up to be even hotter. a friend introduced me to one of them. i hope other girls here are similarly inclined for action as she is.

rizal promenade, including bar 183: i was here 3 times and the male-female ratio was always bad to worse. the thing is the outdoor part of this place is a great mongering setup. it's narrow with one beer bar and a few tables. you can make eye contact with any girls sitting at the tables or the bar and then chat them up. in the most interior part there's a live band with several rows of seating. off to the side there are several small bars and dancing places. the biggest of these is bar 183. but all of these places will be playing music at full volume. hard to do much but wink and make lewd gestures. i also looked into swig but never saw a reason to go in there.

eagle bar in marco polo hotel: i was staying in the hotel (guest friendly) so i always peeked in here when coming or going. 2 out of the 7 nights i saw decent looking female customers. once a group of 5 lovelies was just finishing up and leaving and the other time i had another girl to meet and couldn't stay. if you're staying here it's worth a look but i wouldn't make any special trips here.

corner convenience store, aka ground zero: took two looks here, once in about 8 pm and another time around midnight. the 'earlier is better' idea held true here. the 8 pm sample was better and almost bordering on something i would be interested in bothering with. almost.

i tried going to hotlegs 2 but it was already closed. some of the girls were still sitting around outside, none of them better than about a 5. hopefully that was because the better girls were barfined or something.

i just arrived in zamboanga. i will be here (first time visit) for five days and then back in davao next monday.

Hippie

08-16-06, 13:54

Are any of you familiar with Regency Inn on Villa Abrille Street? Any reason NOT to stay there? I have never seen a Philippine hotel that was not guest friendly, but I am sure some must exist.

Anyone in addition to GE who is interested in meeting when I am there in two weeks for my first Davao trip?

Surfer

08-16-06, 15:34

GoodEnough

08-18-06, 08:50

Just spoke to the Slayer who arrived in the PI last night. He asked me to tell you guys that anyone who wants to contact him about the events tomorrow and Sunday should send him a PM and he'll check the board later. He also said that he traveled with ten bottles of champagne, 8 pounds of chocolat and assorted other goodies and did not get charged anything for overweight luggage. The last thing he told me during our conversation was that his mood improved about 1000 percent as soon as the wheels touched down in the Philippines. Of course, it was no doubt helped by arriving at his room to find it already well-stocked with a young, beautiful woman.

Looking forward to Cebu!

:D

GE

Cebu Local

08-18-06, 11:25

GoodEnough

08-18-06, 16:30

I've posted this elsewhere, but thought that guys here might be interested as well.

I've gotten a few posts recently from guys looking to come to Davao for a few weeks or a few months, and asking about the availability of furnished apartments for rent here. There are several available, and I certainly don't know them all. The one I would recommend is called Red Knight Garden, which is in Guadeloupe Village on Lanang Road. The phone number there is: +63-82-233-0618 and the owner's name is Ray, who is an English guy married to a Filipina. I think (but I'm not sure) that one bedroom apartments rent for about $600 a month.

:D

GE

Mahku

08-20-06, 05:50

Terrific report that brings a touch of sadness: Can't believe they got rid of the Liquid waterfall. Proof that progress is not always positive.

The cyber GF and her family are coming to Apo View to meet me, but I will have a couple nights before they arrive and am thinking that Marco Polo at $75 aint bad (she got a locals rate at Apo View of 2900, 3100 with 2 double beds but their website says 4000). Curious what rate you guys can get at both Apo View and Marco Polo.

Thanks Surfer. Actually I think as recently as last year I was getting the Apo View for around 2000, without any local going to bat for me. And there may still be a Cebu Pacific discount that knocks it down even more. For Marco Polo 60 to 80 bucks is probably about normal unless you can book well in advance.

Also, another good place I forgot to mention is a foodcourt in the row of shops across from the Ateneo entrance. It's the place that has Clickerz internet cafe. At lunchtime it's full of Ateneo girls in their white outfits.

Harvey WB

08-20-06, 14:11

I was paying P995 and then P1,100, I think, on Cebu Pacific Summit Club (last visit 2003). 2nd visit, in 2001, they "kicked me out" after 4 days (refused to honor CP Summit Club after the 4th day) due to a conference, but they told me this on check in. I consider it a deal at P1,100 to P1,500 maybe, but not any higher.

X Man

08-21-06, 07:33

GE, thanks for the apt rental info. How I wish I had a long enough vacation to consider an apartment! Maybe some day. The place you suggested has a web site:

http://mozcom.com/~ray-phil/red.htm

Also, there has been talk about Apo View. I stayed there for just over 2000.

The pool looks nice, but it's hard to do laps because one end is extremely shallow. Well, if you're taking small kids to Davao, this might be a good thing.

Also, when I was there, they had an electrical fire in the ceiling of the lobby. No one was hurt, but things could have been really nasty if the fire had started somewhere out of view. I'm not a religious man, but I went to church the next day!

Some G-rated pictures attached.

X

GoodEnough

08-22-06, 11:37

As regular readers of this thread will know, the Dragon Slayer hosted two parties over the week end to celebrate the baptism of his son. Although the parties were held in Cebu, most of the expats who came live in Davao and Davao is where I met the Slayer, so it seems most appropriate to thank him here.

As always, the DS brought his own champagnes, and they were superb. It takes a hell of a commitment to fine wines to drag a case of champagne across the Pacific, but that's what he did and it was much appreciated, at least by the expats who drank most of it. On Saturday night we enjoyed a fine French red, and again, the expats drank about 80% of the wine, though we constituted less than 50% of those attending.

To Spam Hog, Cooler Brew, Cebu Local and the other guys who were there, it was great seeing you all again. To the Slayer, thanks for two memorable evenings of good food, great wine and excellent company.

:D

GE

X Man

08-22-06, 14:59

Glad you guys had a good party. What was the brand?
x

Cebu Local

08-22-06, 18:08

Thank you for a great celebration Fine Wine and Champagne .GE nice to meet you and your lady,Ditto for Mr and Mrs Spamhog,Best wishes

Mahku

08-23-06, 06:10

For about 36 hours after I got back from Zamboanga I never left the area of the Marco Polo. Girls were coming around afternoon and evening. One of the girls who stood me up last week came by for a great round of makeup sex. Also another one that I've been working on for a while finally gave it up. I was so worn out that I couldn't do anything with one girl that came by later at night but just lay together and watch TV. I may need to consider getting chemical help.

Last night I finally got out. After an all afternoon session with one girl I brought her to Henny's for dinner then sent her home. I wandered around town a bit and ended up at Hot Legs 2. I'm not so sure that the positive press this place has gotten is deserved. There was heavy pressure to buy lady drinks for girls that I wouldn't give a second look. Mamasan said the barfine is 3500. I didn't bother to talk about it further. I have to say there are several lookers here. So if they can get over their tendency to give us the 'foreigner treatment' this could be a decent place to go. But for now it's like all the other bars of this type that I've been to and I'll be giving it a miss.

I finally staggered into Blue Room at Apo View. Before I didn't consider this as a good bet for picking up a girl but on this night I was very wrong. There was a stunner there that I couldn't get my eyes off of. She was with a work group and I think her boss had designs on her. I happened to be sitting on the way to the ladies room and this girl have her number to me on the way to do her business. We spent the next hour doing furious texting while this boss man was glaring at me. Looks like I'll be meeting her later...I've put off my trip to Cagayan and we'll see how things go.

Mahku

08-28-06, 04:40

I'm in Tacloban now. I had planned to go to Cagayan next but I couldn't face the 7 hour bus ride. I'll go there next connecting through either Cebu or Manila.

Anyway, my last several days in Davao were divided between 4 different girls that I either met on the internet, were introduced to me, or whom I just met out on the town. Most nights I would start out in the Eagle Bar at Marco Polo, waiting for a girl to show up. Then we would head upstairs for a session. Then out to dinner somewhere like De Bonte Koe or Tsuru. Then out dancing at the Venue or Bar 183. Then back to the room for late night action.

The one that I met in Blue Room was a real find. Even though I found out that she has a kid her slim, 5 foot 6 frame doesn't show it at all. She used to work in Japan so we often communicated in Japanese better than English. I caught her at a good time, since she's now started work at a KTV near Victoria Plaza and she'll be less available. After a couple of days together she did start asking for money, so I starting distancing myself. In fact all the contacts sort of ended up like that. Either they were getting too clingy, too gold digging, or getting busy with exams or something like that. Since I won't be back in Davao for about a year I'll have plenty of time to build up contacts again. As if to illustrate that I met one of last year's girls while I was at the Venue with the Blue Room girl. She was with her fiance and heading off to the States soon. So each trip is part of a cycle. You prepare in advance, reap the benefits while you're there, then the girls and you move on to other things and you start preparing for future visits. The cycle of mongering in Davao and elsewhere...

Dragon Slayer

08-28-06, 07:26

Pals,

The Champagne was Taittinger, family owned in Champagne Region of France. I did start first with a magnificent J Schramm '99 as guys from this Board had arrived agead of the Filipinos at the Pres Suite on rooftop of Crowne Regency. So, we went with the vintage brand and then on to the Taittinger for the balance of the night.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

08-28-06, 07:37

Pals,

I dropped by Ground Zero last evening. First time there alone in a very long time. Being Sunday there were no nurses or co-eds. It was a nice evening and the music was fine. So I drank a few beers and relaxed. JP has replaced Gino as waiter for the tables. I might have tipped him 30 pesos.

I just came from Monday lunch with Henny at De Bonte Koe. We chatted about various and sundry. I am at Marco Polo and mostly resting. Have not seen GE since my Saturday night arrival. We have dinner plans for tonight though.

Cristina texted me early Sunday morning. She is a 26 y/o lady I know here. She came by late morning, promptly fucked/sucked me, had lunch with me in room, fucked and sucked me again and departed. Asked for 50 pese cab fare, and, being the big tipper, I gave her 100. Did not see her again as my plans are sketchy. Jen is due here this evening to keep me company for the next few days. See how it goes.

Have to return to Cebu soon as my son's mother and I were invited to a private party at Cafe Adriatico and the Director/CEO of the Hospital where Daniel's mother is on Staff, has invited me to a private lunch there. She is a sweet, elderly lady who was at the rooftop party last week.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

08-28-06, 07:58

Pals,

Some brief comments before I logoff. I have had a good trip without a lot of the wild nights I usually have. Spent many nights with my son. Was amazed to see him looking at me thorugh big, "blue eyes". Could not believe it. His mother replied,"I told you he has your eyes". Sadly he looks nothing at all like her or a filipino. Saw my two little girls fof two nights. WOuld have been longer but my one baby's mother started getting on my case big time for "sins" I committed anywhere from six months ago (in Davao w Ge of course) to ten years prior. When she awoke my little girl, causing her to start crying, I knew it was time to depart. I will see them again later. She has apologized for her outbursts.

I DO enjoy the Posts on the Fight Club Board. July and early August were miserable for me. Those Posts gave me a great deal of levity. I laugh outloud when reading them. Here at Marco Polo I drew some surprised glances from the Business Centre Staff while I was reading them. The photos are equally hilarious.

Some young Davao witch named Eden tried to fuck me over figuratively last Saturday night, shortly after my arrival here in Davao. She came in second.

More later.

Dragon Slayer

X Man

08-28-06, 11:39

GE, can I please have the diving trainng contact info. Please send me pm or my yahoo.

Oh, DS, PLease give us the contact info of this evel Eden. I'm always interested in meeting bad girls.

Speaking of bad girls, my old friend Rby from Davao has suddenly contacted me. She was extremely great fun, GFE, sex in first two hours (after I met the entire extended family), CHerry blossom girl. She helped me test the beds at Casa Leticia, which is the best hotel in Davoa IF YOU DON'T NEED A POOL.

I've posted about her and even posted some pics here at DV thread, but never expected to hear from her again...the cute, sweet, little btch. After our romantic four days, i got the most ridiculous emails.... "I'm sick, electric bill unpaid, no food, I'm pregnant..." ...this girl was reading from the scammer guidebook and apparently wasn't a quick learner.

Here we are, a year later and she happily uploaded some bikini pictures and I had goose bumps. Hot. Of course none of the pics included the hot black bikini that I bought for her, (and shared with the Davao elite), but who am I to complain.

I'll string her along for a while...see what happens... at least we both understand each other now....I wonder if she sitll has to go home by 10pm...

X

X Man

08-28-06, 11:51

DS, your post was kind of confusing since we don't know your PERSONAL details.

But, I wouild love to hear more about EDEN. Whats her problem, and how did you solve it?

And I'm sure the members here would love to hear more about ...

how you attracted...
how you seduced...
how she responded...
how you seperated..

....and any ugly (or beautiful) details in between.

X

Klon15

08-28-06, 12:13

Hi.

I have read my conuntry's department of state believe Mindanao is too dangerous to travel to. What do all of you who has been to Mindanao lately think about the risk?

K

Spam Hog

08-29-06, 12:19

Hi.

I have read my conuntry's department of state believe Mindanao is too dangerous to travel to. What do all of you who has been to Mindanao lately think about the risk?

K

Klon:

I suppose Im qualified to respond to this (it is a recurring question) since most Embassies have declared Mindanao "Unsafe" etc. I lived in Davao for several years, traveled about alone and in the company of wife, friends, strange women and local Pinoy's. I've traveled by bus, by motor cycle and driving around my piece of crap truck. Drove it to General Santos a few times, Digos, Kidpawan, tagum all within about a fifty mile radius of Davao.
Also went by Bus regualrly from Davao to Cagayan de Oro, Surigao etc.

I have NEVER had ANYONE be they Muslim, Lumad (native) or NPA "soldier"
(Met a few of them!) bother me. They might say "Hi" or ask you a few curious questions but thats it.

So once again for the record as so many of the fellows on this board who have had the pleasure of mongering in Davao will tell you.

You are safer in Davao and it's immediate environs more so than your average US city. Personally, I think that goes for most of the Philippines but Davao has a tough no nonsense Mayor who EVERYONE is scared shitless of. He says a word and you die, no matter if you are an MILF chieftan, a racketeer, a street criminal or commander of the local NPA militia. Hizzoner has said that foreigners are under his special protection,(with the stipulation all must behave) woe be unto he who crosses that line.

I would not tempt fate and wander into MILF held areas of ARMM (Atonymous region of Muslim Mindanao) that is the extreme western half or the Sulu sea island chain. But in most major cities you are reasonably safe.

Enjoy your trip, relax and get a personal body guard to tuck you in at night, one named Rosa or Gemma, Evelyn, Diane etc. etc.

Spamhog

Dragon Slayer

08-30-06, 13:06

Pals,

You believe what State Departments Post and remember the choice Louisiana swamp land and fine desert property outside Death Valley I am looking to move.

Davao is a great city. I have made over 50 separate trips here in the last tne years. No trouble here other than the time in Aug '04 when I got drugged at Ralph's at Venue by the witch Chin who worked there as a waitress. I posted in detail here on that when it occurred.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

08-30-06, 13:38

Pals,

Had dinner last night at El Toro with GE, his Lady and my woman, Jen. I mentioned the other day that I was having Jen come over Monday night. WOW. 25, 5'5", 121#, long, raven hair, ruby lips (yes and sparks flying from her fingertips), olive skin, a solid "A Team" woman and a 9.2 on looks and a 9.4 on body (36C, 26, 36 w/ a "rack to die for").

More on my woman later. I think Jackson may have to commence a basic IQ Test here for new members of the Board. Now, I do NOT know this guys Board Name and paid no attention when GE told me his real name (went back to telling Jen what I was going to do to her when we got back to the Hotel).

We had finished our dinner and were seated at the bar drinking coffee. Henny leads in two guys who dropped by De Bonte Koe looking for GE. He led them across the Courtyard to his other restaurant where we were. I knew right off by GE's furtive glance in my direction that he did not know either guy. Turns out the one is a lurker; never posts but is an avid readed. Like a vampire he sucks out information via PM's from Board members. Never Posts or provides any information useful or not. He used GE as his "pointman" this time.

GE makes no attempt to inform him that Slayer was in attendance (one of my few Rules; when guys show up unexpected I am NOT around). Any guy looking in my direction who noticed me would have to be fucking crazy. Jen was sitting with me in a pair of"body fitting" pants and a "hot blue" form fitting blouse which nicely accentuated her big, lovely tits. She is BEAUTIFUL, plain and simple. The guy begins by apologising to Henny that he will not be taking diving lessons, citing a basic fear of whatever the fuck. I am massaging Jen's side and telling her how I will fuck her in various parts of her body when we get back. Her reply is only, "okay honey, whatever you want".

The guy then asks GE where he can get clothes. Goes on to tell how he arrived in the Phils on his first Trip without ANY clothing, save for what is on his body (t shirt, shorts, sneakers, no socks). This gets my attention and I turn from Jen to look at this guy. With both GE and myself staring he states, "I had all my clothes neatly set out on my bed and forgot to pack them in my suitcase". I knew it was time to go and GE offered to give us a ride home.

Outside I asked GE, "What the fuck did he do? Did he come here with an empty suitcase"? GE goes, "I can see a guy forgetting to pack a pair of socks but all his clothes"? Jen thought she missed something in translation to vasayan and even inquired if he really said what she thought she heard. My only comment then was, "GE, do you intend to hang with these two guys"? His response, "Oh hell no".

I got home and fucked Jen for the third and fourth times that day. Nine times so far since her arrival at 8:00PM Monday evening; it is early Wednesday evening now but who's counting?

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

08-30-06, 13:57

Pals,

I posted some photos of Eden back in March here. Look back for them. She is a sold "B Team" woman, 21, 7.0 on looks and body. Cute but nothing like Jen, Pixie (numerous pics here) my daughter's mother, my son's mother, Jing (pics here) or my Beijing Doll. She is a first rate hustler. Young, stupid but working men for $$$.

She was due to arrive at 7:00PM at the Marco Polo Hotel to accompany me to dinner. At 7:15 she texted she would be late. Arrived at 9:00PM but I was out eating. Took her till 10:00PM to get to El Toro where I had moved after dining at De Bonte Koe.

She had her 20 y/o cousin with her, something she told me she would not do. They both proceeded to order Pina Coladas at P150 each (after all I was paying). Began to give me a "sad story" which she must have invented during the three hours she was late at arriving. I told her I had only one bed in my room and no place for her cousin. Reminded her how she said she was coming alone, knowing we were going out for dinner. I also mentioned how 10:00PM for a 7:00PM dinner was a little too much.

She then asked for money to give her cousin. I said NO. Told her to have her cousin stay with her sister or one of her friends here. She did not think this a good idea (no $$$ this way). They ended up in my taxi to my Hotel where I exited, paid the fare and wished them a fun night.

After Cristine on Sunday, 26 and a 6.5 on looks but quickly becoming fat, and now Eden, I had tired of "B Team" women. The following morning I confirmed with Jen that we would meet that night and told GE (and Henny over lunch) I had decided to "bring in the A Team". Over dinner Monday he told me, "You said you were bring in the A Team; I think you made a very wise choice".

Dragon Slayer

Cebu Local

08-30-06, 15:43

Starting in a few months Viva Macau Airlines is going to running direct flights from Davao to Macau and vice versa.So for team Davao,Macau and its famous MPS and Zhuhai and its " red ropes"will be only a short hop away.This is straight from the Regional Tourism Director.

Dragon Slayer

08-31-06, 08:28

Pals,

I was asked for Eden's contact information. I deleted her cell # here but I will retrieve it and give it via a PM. She is looking for dollars but not bad looking.

I read the Fight Club Board again. Getting more and more unusual. One guy appears to Post only on that Board. Another guy wants to know why it is so aggressive (it IS called the Fight Club). Anyway, the photos are funny and to the guy who posted a pic of some lady in the USA, She does not appear fat and looks sexy in a "sort of way".

I am finally in my Pres Suite at Casa Leticia. I should never have talked up this Hotel. My Suite has been occupied, most likely by a lurker here, for the past week. Last night while sitting on our Terrace in the Exec Room next door, drinking a magnificent Champagne with Jen, a magnificent woman. I got a bit out of hand. I began yelling over the terrace wall for the guy to "get out of my suite". Told him, "the Pres Suite belongs to the Dragon Slayer". Jen kept telling me to be quiet. I said I had enough of this guy encroaching on my Suite.

Not sure if he heard me but he did move this morning. Jen is up there making herself comfortable. It will be great to have my old Suite back now. I do hope you guys like Apo View, Marco Polo, Waterfront, etc. I recommend them all. Before I began posting here I would simply arrive in Davao and go directly up to my Suite. I had a good thing going and I ruined it.

I am taking a break from fucking. These marathon fuck sessions are exhausting. Last night, we stayed at the Hotel, fucked, drank a Schlamsberg Rose" and ordered room service. Spent the evening on our terrace listening to music with Jen in my lap. Had a Spanish red wine with dinner and watched a late movie. Awoke this morning and fucked and then we did not awake until after Noon. Fucked again and took a bath, dressed and made it to Henny's just before the 2:00PM lunch deadline. Fortunately, many tables were still occupied so we did not inconvenience his staff.

I very much enjoy Jen's company. Not only because of her face and body (9.2 and 9.4 respectfully) but she is sweet and kind. My guess is she is with me for the experience of fine dining, champagne, red wines and sex with an american. I doubt she will last any longer than Elaine, the 22 y/o here in Davao (photos here)that I was with in Feb. She came up with some fucking nonsense excuse to not see me again. Claimed my request that she take birth control was inconsiderate of her. She really just wanted to get back to fucking young, educated filipinos from her age group.

Jen did surprise me last night by asking if she could spend her coming birthday with me here in Davao. She had told me she would need to leave by Sep 2 as her friends had scheduled a birthday party for her then. I am supposed to be at a Party with Daniel's mother the 1st in Cebu. She could go with a friend I imagine but I will most likely depart. Don't see this going beyond this Trip. The lady is just TOO HOT not to have many men in her life. Sometimes you have to be realistic.

Dragon Slayer

X Man

08-31-06, 14:46

Thanks for the posts DS,

Remind me not to stay at Casa Leticia when you are there bellowing out and about.

Actually, CL is a great place. Excellent service, although I wouldn't recommend the overpriced Internet service. Hopefully, they've bought a new computer (or computer connection) since that time.

Cheaper rooms share a common balcony, which could be a security risk (especially when DS is in the next room). Nevertheless, a very nice place which is conveniently located. I think it is Japanese run, but so what.

Hey, DS, is the lost-clothes guy a REAL STORY or did you and GE make this up? My first trip to Davao I had only one set of clothes. My baggage was left in Cebu.

BTW, if H still does diving lessons, could you please post the contact info.

X

Hippie

08-31-06, 15:50

Just a few comments from my first trip to Davao before I head out for the evening:

Davao is DEAD on Tuesday nights.

Club 183 on Wednesday night (ladies night) is like shooting fish in a barrel. Tons of hot available ladies.

DS's girl Jen, who I got to see today when they walked into De Bonte Ko for the before mentioned late lunch is indeed hot. The food there is quite good, and Henny is a class act.

Regency Inn is perilously close to "dump" status, and they started repair work on the room next to mine at 9AM. Apo View is much better, albeit twice the price, but there was a pretty bad mustiness when I first entered my room, as has been previously mentioned here. After returning a few hours later it was mostly gone. The massage girls offer extras, but their massage is not as good as the shiatsu available at the Regency Inn.

GoodEnough

09-01-06, 02:33

I've never stayed in the Apo View, but I've got lots of friends who have, and I've always been struck by the mustiness that never entirely disappears. This is one of the reasons I would never recommend staying there to anyone. The other of course is that the place is just not well maintained, and I don't think the owner has spend more than $2.50 on maintenance since it was opened.

Xman, the DS story about the forgotten clothes is absolutely true. In fact, he repeated it here practically verbatim as this guy told it to us. Can you imagine getting to the airport, ready to disembark on an international (or for that matter any) trip, and saying to yourself: "Whoops. I seem to have forgotten to bring a suitcase?" In his case, he seems to have forgotten to have packed a suitcase, which I guess is even worse. I'll post Henny's dive School email address later, once I've had a chance to look it up, or I may send it to you by PM if I decide I don't want to broadcast it. I'll ask Henny which he would prefer.

DS and the lovely Jen were here at our place last night, and she is truly a fine looking woman. But then, you would expect that as DS' tastes are impeccable. He also brought a vintage Taitanger Rose with him, and a good time was had by all.

:D

GE

Hippie

09-01-06, 07:07

The musty smell seems to be gone, but then again my sinuses are stopped up so I may just not be smelling it anymore. The lack of maintenance is truly sad. It would really not take much to turn this place back into the true 4 star hotel I suspect it once was.

Mahku

09-01-06, 07:53

That's right about the day of the week being key. If someone only has 3 or 4 days to spend here they should definitely time it from Wednesday onward. Or if staying longer they should start on Wednesday and by the time the dead Sunday-Monday spell comes around they should have plenty of contacts to see them through.

In Club 183 on the best nights you don't even need to pick anyone up. You can just writhe amongst the teeming masses and get your jollies that way.

I think all but the best Philippines hotels fight a generally losing battle against foul odors. Even the Marco Polo last week smelled really rank just outside the 7th floor elevators.

Just a few comments from my first trip to Davao before I head out for the evening:

Davao is DEAD on Tuesday nights.

Club 183 on Wednesday night (ladies night) is like shooting fish in a barrel. Tons of hot available ladies.

DS's girl Jen, who I got to see today when they walked into De Bonte Ko for the before mentioned late lunch is indeed hot. The food there is quite good, and Henny is a class act.

Regency Inn is perilously close to "dump" status, and they started repair work on the room next to mine at 9AM. Apo View is much better, albeit twice the price, but there was a pretty bad mustiness when I first entered my room, as has been previously mentioned here. After returning a few hours later it was mostly gone. The massage girls offer extras, but their massage is not as good as the shiatsu available at the Regency Inn.

Dragon Slayer

09-01-06, 09:57

Pals,

Ground Zero is good on Monday and Tuesday nights as it gets co-eds & nurses in the evening. The clubs are fine for pro pussy after 10:00PM.

I have been flooded with texts from ladies I know here. "Timing is everything", as I like to say. Elvie, a 9.0 on looks and 9.2 on body sent me messages yesterday and this morning to announce her availability. I had called and texted her many times last week. She must have had to check her "options". Jade with the perfect set of tits called and texted me the prior two days to inform me she woulld make the Trip into town now for me. Sad she did not say this last week.

I would have to be fucking insane to even think of leaving Jen for another woman; ANY WOMAN. A look from her huge, lovely brown eyes could bring an erection on a statue. I had to send a message last night to GE saying "sorry we will be a bit late. My fault. I cannot get enough of her. Like heroin". This morning the choice was lunch or fucking Jen. Eating did not stand a chance. Thriteen times now in less than four days. She has little to say and few comments. But a look from her could melt a glacier. Asks for nothing except to spend her birthday with me here.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-01-06, 10:04

Pals,

China can Wait. I decided to skip it this Trip. Why would I want to be anyplace but Davao? Love this City. I may extend my Trip a few days to allow more time with my children. No desire to see other women now. Told GE this morning, "I found what I am looking for". Even if it lasts only for now, stilll better than nothing.

Not sure what tonight will bring as it is early yet. Stopped by the rooftop club, Toto-s here last night. Ambiance is great. Jen liked it. We were the only people there at 10:30PM. Have no idea how it normally does.

I am out of Champagne as I left some in Cebu. Have to go out to a store this evening. Jen likes the Schlamsberg Rose so hopefully I can come up with some of the Beringer Rose here in Davao (the Schlamberg is hard to get even in Ca.).

Dragon Slayer

X Man

09-01-06, 18:31

GE, thanks for clarifying the thing about lost soul who forgot to pack his suitcase. I've heard that certain types of inhaled smoke can cause forgetfullness...poor guy.

Is it possible this guy is a friend of the guy who gave you the evil eye while holding a steak knife? Or was it a butter knife?

I guess life in Davao is a never ending soap opera.

As for Apo View, never smelled anything bad in the one room I stayed in, but that doesn't mean there isn't a room that's bad. Or maybe the north side has more mildw than the south side. I'll pass on Apo more because I'm worried about electrical fires....as was explained in a previous post.

Also was pissed off at check out. Lobby was closed due to the fire and they had a makeshift lobby in one of the spacious areas between the lobby and the elevators. The check out was taking incredibly long. As I was waiting one employee came into the area, sat in front of a computer, logged onto Yahoo and started checking her messages.

At that point I complained (about the wait) and mentioned that some of us had planes to catch. One guy politely explained "...blah...blah...the fire...blah...and they were doing their best".

I replied, "well, what about her checking her personal email? Can't she help out."

Hmmm, a lot of emarrassed faces among the staff, but I strangely became very popular with a group of 30ish, middle class, women waiting behind me, who very vocally and bluntly agreed with me and my complaints.

Ha, ha, complain like that in Japan and people quickly move away from you as if you are carrying an ax and a severed head. (I assume since I try to avoid carrying severed heads around)

note: if you are from Homeland security and are reading this, I assure you I've never carried a severed head onto an airplane, nor into the USofA.

X

HenryV

09-03-06, 16:37

Those of you who love Davao, please take this in the spirit it is intended. Planned a four day trip to Davao but left after two days. It seemed the only serious mongering to be found was in Hot Leggs II. Aside from being stone cold dark, it turned out to be like a high school formal – you sit at a table and ladies are brought to you. No chance to mingle. For a mongerer with a time/management problem this is not the place to visit.

Yet, I visited some of the smaller places I read about here and found them to be very laid back and full of charm. It appears to me that Davao, with the right initial contacts and an appreciable amount of time, can be a fun place. It is not for short-timers.

Hippie

09-03-06, 17:50

Billpsu, I agree completely. Davao is a nice enough town, but not a place I will ever make an effort to go back to. I was somewhat aware of this before I came, but really expected the freelancer action to be better based on what I read here. Despite what DS says, I found virtually no P4P or other action available on Tuesday evening, and we went to pretty much every club in Rizal Promenade, the Autoshop area, and two other club areas I don't know the names of. There were a very small number of women who might have been working, but they were just plain ugly. Maybe this was just a particularly bad Tuesday. I arrived too late to check out GZ that night. In fact, the only night I did check it out was Saturday about 10:15, and there was nothing even remotely interesting. Maybe it requires more patience than I had. If I had realized Hot Legs II was a Filipino style go-go I would not have bothered to go, but since I was there I went ahead and got a forgettable session in a VIP room. I did not find any of the girls there to be above an 8, but YMMV.

I was too tired to go out on Thursday, and called it an early night on Saturday as I had an early flight, but I did venture out again on Friday. Not bad, but not spectacular. Definitely not as good as Wednesday at 183, but much better at the other locations.

Had I had more time to spending chatting with girls on the Internet before I arrived, I'm sure I would have had more fun. As it was, the three I did manage to touch bases with all turned out to be a waste of time for one reason or another. However, as a guy who likes to go out to clubs in the evening when on vacation, I would have still been disappointed. The town is just a bit too small and quiet for me, and the large number of clubs actually works against it on the off days, as no place reaches a "critical mass" of partiers.

On the plus side, the smell never came back in my room, and the buffet at the ground floor restaurant was good enough that I ate there the last three nights. Henny's food is certainly better, but the convenience factor kept winning out.

GoodEnough

09-04-06, 00:50

Those of you who love Davao, please take this in the spirit it is intended. For a mongerer with a time/management problem this is not the place to visit.
It appears to me that Davao, with the right initial contacts and an appreciable amount of time, can be a fun place. It is not for short-timers.

I agree with all of the major points in Bill's post, but then again, many of us have made the same point many times. If you're into the club scenes, and the p4p arena, there is no reason at all to come to Davao. Sure. It exists here, but other areas are much, much better and you'll only leave disappointed. I've said often, as have Dragon Slayer and others, that the nicest attraction of Davao is the accessibility of "normal women." But again, this doesn't mean that you're going to breeze in here for three or four days, hook up with a bunch of women you met at a restaurant/office/department store, and then screw your brains out.

I would advise anyone who is not willing to come to Davao for at least a week, to go elsewhere. I'd also advise you to think clearly about why you want to come here and to come with a realistic set of expectations. It's not a place, as Bill says, for short timers, and it may not be the place even for those of you who want to stay longer.

Most of us who love the city either live here, and know it very, very well, or spend several weeks a year here and have done so for many years. Many of us know people who can introduce us to the types of ladies we want to meet, or know people who know people who can do so. Now that I think of it, most, if not all of us, are grizzled veterans of the road wars who have been at this a long time, and find Davao a pleasing change. I don't think anyone in the group of which I'm speaking is less than 45 and most of us are significantly older than that.

This is not intended to put anyone down, but merely to suggest that Davao appeals more to a specific type of older guy who has experienced the gamut of mongering options and now searches for something different. I, for example, simply cannot do the Burgos St./EDSA Complex thing any more and find that it has zero appeal. For those who want that, or who want the Angeles City experience, fine, but Davao is probably not for you.

It will be interesting to see what Dragon Slayer and Spam Hog think about this. They may have a different take.

:D

GE

Cebu Local

09-04-06, 01:12

As a younger guy in my late 30 s,I wanted to put in my 2 cents opinion on Davao.Davao is a relaxing relatively peaceful city.It is low cost compared to Manila or Cebu.But it is a haven for hunting NORMAL women.Given the desperation of the local women for better lives,It is not that difficult to get normal women here.Regarding Bars and Clubs Manila and Cebu have better scenes.For those with less time,Stick to Manila or Cebu.Spam Hog has joined Team Cebu I believe though.Davao is more for relaxation then mongering

Mahku

09-04-06, 07:09

It may be worthwhile to have one of those 'sticky' posts that stay at the top of the page saying that Davao is NOT Angeles or Burgos St. Etc. etc.

Hunting normal girls is not for the impatient or those short of time. Even in Davao, which is chock full of women that are open to being with foreigners, you can go through dry spells and down days. That goes double if you're a picky sort. I had two lost days in this trip because 3 internet girls stood me up. I only picked up one girl this trip in the bars, at the Blue Room (And SHE was just fine even for picky me). Last year it was the same, one girl picked up 'cold turkey.' So that's 2 in about 3 weeks of being in Davao. Of course if I didn't have so much lined up already by internet contacts and friends' introductions I might be trying harder out in the bars.

Another important point that GE mentioned a few weeks ago is you have to be assertive. They don't just come and sit in your lap. You have to go up and say hi, prepare to be shot down, then try again and keep trying. The law of averages will eventually work for you IF you have the time to pursue it.

All of the night clubs I've seen in Davao like both of the Hot Legs, Galera, etc. have been Filipino style. That means they tend to be dark, have different kind of showing styles, and definitely you will be the only foreign guy there or one of a very few. They tend to stick it to the foreigner price wise. All in all if you want go-go bar action there is no way that you want to come here.

Dragon Slayer

09-04-06, 08:48

Pals,

Long ago I read an article containing some very sage advise. It said, " Give a beautiful woman a gift of fine jewelry and she will be so very grateful". I wish I had noted the Author's name. I would like to hire him for a consultation for additional wise, useful words. Jen said she wanted to be with me for her birthday. I told GE that I wanted to buy her something nice for the day.

Before anyone mentions the old one about it always being an asian girl's birthday when she is with a foreigner, her cellphone lit up like a Christmas Tree beginning the day before and all through her birthday. She got over 50 messages and phone calls wishing her Happy Birthday. So GoodEnough took me first to get money and then to buy something for her from a Wholesale Jewelry Dealer he knows. First they pulled out the 14K gold but I asked to see the 18k. There is a real noticable difference in the two when you first see the one and then the other.

We spent fifteen minutes choosing an 18K necklace and another 5 minutes deciding on an 18K heart pendant for it. GE's lady helped her put it on and also got me a small discount. I pulled out a wad of bills, paid and off we went to dinner at La Toscana Restaurant on Quirino St in d/t Davao. We ate plenty, I had three beers and the bill for the two of us was only P535. GE and his Lady arranged for a birthday cake to be brought in and the Place played a record of "Happy Birthday".

GE said he needed to head home and asked if they could drop us anywhere. Jen said she wanted to return to the Hotel, so that is where we headed. When we got back I propped my feet on a few pillows in front of the TV. Jen walked in naked save for her panties. Stood in front of me and a tiny smile came across her face. She began to remove my clothes. When I was naked she quietly removed her panties, climbed onto the bed and took my huge dick in her mouth. She sucked the "beast" while stroking it with her left hand.

Twenty minutes later she stopped, climbed on top of me and stuck trausersaurus rex inside her. She placed her hands on my chest and, moving her hips, began to slowly fuck me. I did nothing but look at her beautiful face and large, perfect tits. She smiled and began to gradually increase the movement of her hips, taking my hard beast in and out of her. She began to smile. Then softly moan outloud. I "held on for all heaven", not wanting this to end. Finally, I had to give in and shot a loud that would make Peter North proud

When I was done, Jen bent forward and softly kissed me.

Fucking Fantastic!

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-04-06, 09:35

Pals,

Enough on Davao being good for pussy. I wrote over a year ago to "Do a little planning before you arrive". GZ gets going on Saturday nights later but should be ok by 10:30PM. Monday - Friday you will get the nurses from the Hospital across the street and the co-eds from the several area colleges and the semi pros beginning at 7:00PM.

I did hit Burgos St again this Trip wiht my nephew from NYPD. It was just okay. The typical ripoff and we spent more money there than anywhere. Saw lots of tits and held and sucked on all that I saw but nothing more. I am not an Angeles City sort of guy. Not only my opinion but that of many guys here and in the Phils who know me. We did the nightlife thing in Cebu the night of my Son's Christening Reception. A bunch of us went out and I welft shortly afterwards to get back to my woman and my Son. My Nephew and the other three guys stayed out till at least 02:00AM enjoying Clubs like Silver Dollar, Exotica and Lone Star.

I wrote two years ago here that for the "pay for play" go to Pattaya City Thailand. End of Story. The six Clubs here in Davao (fuck there are seven Clubs I know of even in Dumaguete City) are basically ripoffs. I have stated this here more times than could possibly be necessary.

Davao is overflowing with lovely, sensual, beautiful women like Elaine, the 22 y/o I had in Feb and Jen who is with me now. Only trouble is you have to work for it. These are regular ladies who are looking to meet a Gentleman. A guy who looks at least "presentable", is polite, does not insult her and treats her like the Lady that she is. This includes taking her to dinner at nice restaurants and treat her to a box of fine chocolates, bottle of champagne or an evening of music and dancing.

I have met few guys from the Board. GE has met many. From what he AND his Lady have told me (and Henny's comments), many of the guys have a real problem doing any of what I mentioned in the previous paragraph. I asked the other night why one guy dined alone at Henny's De Bonte Koe on a Saturday evening when he supposedly was "up to his ears" in Davao Pussy. GE started to comment about dinner costing P300-400 at Henny;s ($6-$8 US), too much for some guys to spend on a woman. His woman interrupted him saying, "Why will he take a girl to dinner? All he wants to do is fuck her. He does not care about the girl or how she feels".

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-04-06, 10:50

Pals,

I know some guys come here a little tight on money. Galleria Hotel near Quirino St (and La Toscana) by Davao Doctors' hospital is a good place to stay if you cannot spend a lot. Rooms go for P 1800 and are nice. Casa Leticia has very very nice standard rooms for less. Laroux Pension House across from O'Flanagan's on Illustre St has rooms with a/c for about P500.

I have never stayed in standard rooms at Casa Leticia or the other two places but heard they are fine. I know the rooms at C L are nice as i have viewed them. For a fine dining experience La Toscana is great for anyone, EVEN the guy on a tight budget. IF you and your woman have a drink each and a pasta or a pizza (delicious) your total bill will be about P400 ($8 US); less than at Mc Donald's back home.

I posted here in Feb 2004 about a place where Annie (Davao nurse; big, lovely tits and beautiful) and I shared a stew and I had a beer and she drank a coke for a total of P 60 back then. I took Jen there late Friday night after drinks at Chico's on Rizal Street (and dinner at El Torro). I had a beer and she had a Royal soft drink. Cost was P40 for all. This is a cute, openair place just about 30 meters to the right of Casa Leticia as you exit. They have karaoke upstairs but we wanted the view of the street and to sit and relax. The guys running it were very friendly and decent to us both.

At GZ I think I paid P28/bottle for beer. Food is reasonable and JD, the waiter, will get it for you. I tipped him about P20. O'Flanagan's has a Happy Hour from 5:00PM to 8:00PM. I go there mainly for the fabulous Meatloaf dinner for P200 ($ 4). This is a great, home cooked meal and very filling.

I am Posting from the "War Room" of GE's Residence here. Jen is asleep in the other room on the couch. GE is here chatting with me and we are discussing the Board (what else?).

As i find more inexpensive places to eat, drink, get fucked, etc i will post here.

Dragon Slayer

Surfer

09-06-06, 03:58

got too good a thing with a girl from Oriental I met on CB, so I am flying down, hosting the family one night (Friday) then bringing her to Manila (will be her first time on a plane). Will try and sneak out late Friday night for some fun, although I will be SO drained from a week in LOS and then 3 nights in Manila that I will need a sex break (like DS mentioned) LOL.

DS I think you mean SchRamsberg (R not an L) unless you were intentionally being funny and pronouncing it with an Asian accent. Never tried (or heard of) them having a Rose, but the Blanc de Blanc and Blanc de Noire are superlative (my favorites). Not difficult to obtain in CA (presuming you meant the State of Arnold). I can hook you up with our wine merchant in SF should you so desire.

Hippie

09-07-06, 15:28

I agree with just about everything that has been posted recently on the scene in Davao. The key is that some things are subjective. One guy's "plenty of action" can be another's "dead as hell." I personally chose Davao specifically because of the opportunity to meet regular girls. I just did not realize that opportunity was limited exclusively to Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday as far as bars were concerned. I did try cruising SM Mall and had one encounter that was looking quite well until her bitchy ugly friend insisted on leaving right away, and dragged her away by the arm as we were preparing to exchange numbers. Everyone who has said you need to be willing to make the first move is right. (Unfortunately, I kept getting smiles from really hot girls who were with guys. It was obvious they were interested, but there was nothing I could do about it.)

Meeting girls on the Internet first is good advice. I had planned to do that, but you know what they say about best laid plans. However, if you are the kind of guy who likes going out at night even when you are with a girl, you will probably still fnd Davao disappointing during the week. I managed to hook up with a girl Wednesday night who was very much my type and quite sweet, although not exactly intellectually stimulating. However, I was still bored the next few days just because there was not much for us to do. Also, the beaches I saw were really disappointing.

As for P4P, I agree with DS that Burgos is not too hot, but disagree about Pattaya. I find lots of places to be better, including AC and Bangkok. However, just my opinion.

DS, while I probably won't make it back to Davao since my company has no office there and I can't see spending more vacation time on it, I'd still like to thank you for posting the valuable info about inexpensive places to eat and drink. I had planned to stay on a budget on this trip, but the more bored I am the more money I tend to spend trying to have fun. It is hard to watch your spending when everything is so cheap, but it adds up after a few days.

HenryV

09-07-06, 20:42

I too have been remiss in my manners for not thanking DS for the Davao information he has posted in the past. Although my trip was a bust, at least I felt as if I were "on safari," so to speak, with respect to finding and evaluationg these places for myself. Thank you DS.

Someday, when time permits, I would like to invest a significant amount of time in getting to know Davao.

I agree with just about everything that has been posted recently on the scene in Davao. The key is that some things are subjective. One guy's "plenty of action" can be another's "dead as hell." I personally chose Davao specifically because of the opportunity to meet regular girls. I just did not realize that opportunity was limited exclusively to Wednesday, Friday, and Saturday as far as bars were concerned. I did try cruising SM Mall and had one encounter that was looking quite well until her bitchy ugly friend insisted on leaving right away, and dragged her away by the arm as we were preparing to exchange numbers. Everyone who has said you need to be willing to make the first move is right. (Unfortunately, I kept getting smiles from really hot girls who were with guys. It was obvious they were interested, but there was nothing I could do about it.)

Meeting girls on the Internet first is good advice. I had planned to do that, but you know what they say about best laid plans. However, if you are the kind of guy who likes going out at night even when you are with a girl, you will probably still fnd Davao disappointing during the week. I managed to hook up with a girl Wednesday night who was very much my type and quite sweet, although not exactly intellectually stimulating. However, I was still bored the next few days just because there was not much for us to do. Also, the beaches I saw were really disappointing.

As for P4P, I agree with DS that Burgos is not too hot, but disagree about Pattaya. I find lots of places to be better, including AC and Bangkok. However, just my opinion.

DS, while I probably won't make it back to Davao since my company has no office there and I can't see spending more vacation time on it, I'd still like to thank you for posting the valuable info about inexpensive places to eat and drink. I had planned to stay on a budget on this trip, but the more bored I am the more money I tend to spend trying to have fun. It is hard to watch your spending when everything is so cheap, but it adds up after a few days.

Dragon Slayer

09-12-06, 11:31

Pals,
It was a Great Trip. Hated to see it end. I was three nights in Manila, a week in Cebu, two nights on Leyte with my little girls, and 11 nights in Davao. Saw my daughter and her mother for a few days again in Cebu before returning home.

My idea of a Wild TIme is fucking like crazy, meeting lovely, beautiful, sexy (no pigs for the Slayer) ladies between 18 and 38 (don't laugh, some of the finest pussy I ever had was age 35+) for fucking, fine dining, fucking, champagne nights on the terrace, fucking, watching movies together, fucking, hanging with GE and his Lady, fucking and sucking. Almost forgot to mention, I Like to Fuck a Lot.

I hope this settles the question on my idea of "Plenty of Action". How much action in Davao? Met Eden and got rid of her quick as mentioned. Following morning Cristine, aged 26 came by and fucked me till mid afternoon. Spent a relaxing two hours that evening at GZ and then dinner/drinks at Henny's. I had plans to meet Jade from two prior trips, age 28 with large, "perfect tits", Rhea, 22 (photos here), Rose and Elvie but I met Jen Monday. After that, no need to meet anyone else in Davao.

I did not meet any Pros or Semi Pros simply because I did not need to meet them. You guys can have a great time here also. Just hit on the ladies, don't be shy and DO get their cellphone numbers. I have a few other suggestions that work. Post more later as I need to rest.

Not sure if Schlamsberg in an "L' or an "R". I had the last two bottles from my Champagne cellar consumed in Davao so I do not have one to check. My Pal who is a distributor told me he had a case of the Schlamberg Rose for me but it has not been delivered yet. Anyone in California will have no problem getting this. GE had it at the Champagne Party for my Son in Cebu last Aug 20. I will post more and on my Cebu and Manila adventures also.

My Nephew did meet the 21 y/o, Rose here in Davao. I arrived in Davao after his departure. He did not stop by to eat at Henny's two restaurants or see GoodEnough here. Word was he was constantly occupied with this Rose. He pissed me off for about a dozen different reasons which I will relate here. Any information on his time in Davao is from GE. I was in dire need of a rest from the kid and his rookey misadventures in Manila and Cebu. He gives a new meaning to "tightwad" and "freeloader" and "NAIEVE".

I may need to hold a seance some time soon. Promised my Mother to look after the kid after she died. I need to "contact" her now to see if I can contribute to charties, do neeeded volunteer work, or something else. "Looking after" the kid is more than my patience can handle. I cannot go back on my Word and risk her anger, but I do want to preserve my sanity also.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-12-06, 13:23

Pals,

Wonder what happened to my earlier Post. Anyway I am home. Many from this Board attended my Son's Baptism, Dinner/Wine Reception at Cafe Adriatico and the Champagne Party the following evening in the Penthouse of Crowne Regency Hotel. Thankyou all. And thankyou for the beautiful, lovely gifts for Daniel. His Mother was very impressed by my choice of friends, your appearance (extremely welll dressed one and all ) and your generosity. The two parties were very extravagant but I had a lot of fun holding both of them.

I told GE, I enjoy throwing parties. His reply was, "yes and your are very good at it". I intend to hold a Party for my young daughter in the Presidential Suite of Casa Leticia in early January. I will host another party in the Penthouse of Crowne Regency Hotel between Christmas and New Year's. Look forward to seeing you guys at BOTH. I will have Champagne at both and fine, northern california and french, red wines. I will invite lovely, single women also. I intend to have a Gosset "95 Celebrus and a Krug Gold label Champagne for the pre New Year's Party. For my daughter's birthday I might include one of the two extremely rare Charles Heidsick "96 Black Label Champagnes I have. My buddy, Steve, A wine distributor has offered to purchase these from me at a profit as he cannot get them due to limited production and very high demand in France (virtually unknown in USA).

Dragon Slayer

GoodEnough

09-14-06, 05:31

Well, the Dragon Slayer has departed, and I have to admit that the scale of excitement in Davao has dropped proportionately since his departure. Henny also reports about a 20% drop-off in his business due to this circumstance and at least one wine store is closing.

Thanks Slayer, for the lovely parties, the great champagne, the company and the wine. It was fun and my lady sends you her very best as well. I will really look forward to the '96 Black Label champagne during the next go round.

I am contemplating throwing a New Year's Eve party this year as we certainly have the space and the facilities. Getting the single women there will not be a problem, but finding enough guys to accommodate them all may be. I'm only going to throw the party however, if the Slayer is in town.

:D

GE

Dragon Slayer

09-14-06, 16:48

Pals,

For some reason my return home from this annual August Trip provides far more hassels and problems than any other trips I make during each calendar year. I believe part of this is due to the tourist trade taking their final trip of the summer. More just relates to the lousy weather in my city back here this time of year. The rest, I do not know. I am considering moving this Trip.

By now everyone who reads this Board knows the Kid as my Nephew from New York City and NYPD. Not really a kid but certainly a naieve rookie. He must have been stricten with a serious case of "puppy love" for the little bi__h, Rose, the younger sister of Elaine. I made the mistake of hooking him up with her last Feb '06 when I was fucking Elaine 3 times a day here. I was doing a "good deed" and as I am fond of relating, "no good deed will go unpunished".

I last saw my nephew as he left my home on Leyte for a boat to Cebu and then a Flight to Davao. This was early morning and I got up to eat with my daughter and other little girl before they left for school. Last I saw of the nephew was him departing on a tricycle; not to be heard from since, at least not by me.

The Rose witch must have gotten hold of my rookie nephew the moment he touched down in Davao. He did not stop by O'Flanagan's, Henny's or meet with any of my friends. This was one more disappointment I had with him as GoodEnough had gone far to assist him in every way possible. Henny had told me he was looking forward to joining him at the Bar in his two restaurants, El Toro and De Bonte Koe. He did make a "guest appearance" with Rose for a beer at De Bonte Koe the night before he left. Just before closing and stayed for less than 30 minutes.

Did the nephew get laid? NO. Of course not! But, as he told GE by phone, "I was 'this close' and I got everything but". What the fuck is he talking about? "This close" is something I get about five times each week just when I am sitting talking to a lovely woman. Not somethig I would boast about to another man. And what else is there? If you did not get laid, you struck out. Period. Almost is fine in horseshoes and handgranades. Of no use at all in the Realm of Davao Pussy Hunting.

The Kid could have at least offered to meet GE for dinner and thank him properly for his kindnesss and assistance. But, as he did with me, he not so sagely chose the far cheaper route of a text message saying, "had a great time. Thanks". Okay you cheap SOB. Should the Kid contact either of us for future assistance, we BOTH intend to be unavailable.

To add further damage I had instructed him that I would "slice off his testicles" if he so much of mentioned to Rose or her sister about anything in my Life, especially my infant son. It comes under the "none of their fucking business" caption. Needless to say, he accidentally on purpose slipped up, something I should have known, given his propensity for drinking and who is mother is, would have occurred. Even mentioned when I was to be arriving so they could "fuck with me from the start".

Right as I was heading in the Marco Polo van to the Hotel I get several texts messages in a row taunting me about the birth of my son and the bad person I am. This coming from the older sister, Elaine. It was a great way to start my Davao Trip. She was the one to get rid of me in March with the bullshit reason that I was "insensitive".

Anyway, the Trip worked out fine and Jen arrived on my doorstep two nights after I arrived. Have not heard from my Nephew but I have no doubt he is in constant communication with Rose. She may tire of him, his drinking and constant smoking (she said she hates both) or see him for a big, american sucker.

Dragon Slayer

Cebu Local

09-15-06, 00:56

Frequent Flier

09-15-06, 03:42

Pals,

By now everyone who reads this Board knows the Kid as my Nephew from New York City and NYPD. Not really a kid but certainly a naieve rookie. He must have been stricten with a serious case of "puppy love" for the little bi__h, Rose, the younger sister of Elaine. I made the mistake of hooking him up with her last Feb '06 when I was fucking Elaine 3 times a day here. I was doing a "good deed" and as I am fond of relating, "no good deed will go unpunished".

Dragon Slayer

I spent many years entertaining customers in Hong Kong at the Filipina gogo bars before my first trip to the Philippines, so I have seen my fair share of wide eyed men and boys of all ages get pulled in by a many sweet Filipina spell casters. They are masters of telling you what you want to hear, especially those in HK. If it hadn't been for a good host during my first trips to HK I myself may have fallen under the spell. Not knowing exactly how much exposure that your Nephew has had I would say that someone needs to take him to other regions of the Philippines or HK or even Thailand. This way he will hopefully see the way of so many a mongers and be a butterfly. This does not excuse his diarrhea of the mouth, which is a favorite spell of the Filipina spell casters, but hopefully he will see the light or actually the brown as in LBFM's waiting for him all over SE Asia. Good luck and I hope that he wasn't already shown the ropes and still fell under the spells.

This is a very good lesson for all those who plan to visit the Philippines for the first time or any other country like the Philippines. I, as well as many other long time mongers, have seen many many guys who will swear...and I mean swear to the very depths of their souls that the girl they have met is different. Not saying that there are not a few and I mean very few real Filpinas out there, but too think you are going to meet THE ONE on your first trip is like thinking that you are going to score on your first trip into a strip club in Las Vegas for the same money as spent in the PI..US$20.00

Those are accurate odds fella's. If you are such a stud that you can pull free pussy from a strip club in Vegas then come on over..haha...actually if you are that much of a stud you most likely would never even think of the PI, unless you have tired of the attitudes of your home spun women. In any case take a deep breath and count backwards from 20 of the last 20 LBFM's that you had sex with and then start looking for your special lady. Good bet that after the memories you will decide to do another 20 LBFM's to be sure your ready for that special girl.

FF

GoodEnough

09-15-06, 09:44

Well said FF. For a lot of these guys, it must be like swimming in an endless lake of fresh water after having spent years in the sands. I've seen and met so many guys, as have most of us most likely, who come here for the first time, get totally enamoured of the first lithsome 20 something that hauls them into the sack, and fall head over heels in love. Of course, in the case of the Slayer's nephew, she was able to weave her web without even getting him into bed which shows true talent on her part, and compelte naivete on his. But this is SE Asia and this shit happens every day all over the place.

I met a guy here in Davao a couple of months ago who came to the PI for the first time last year. He's about 60 and he fell in love with a 20 year old on the second or third day of his visit. Now they're "in love" and he's planning his retirement around her and around their being together here. Maybe it will work. Who knows? The thing is, that while most of these encounters don't live up to the longer-term dream of the expats, some actually do and that's what these guys latch onto. They don't see the 98% that fail, but the 2% that work out against all the odds.

It's been my experience that most of these relationships that actually work occur with guys who live here, or who spend a lot of time here, and have already been through the one or two girls a day routine. For them, that fascination has worn off and they're more ready to distill bullshit from reality. For the newbie who gets struck, there's not much of a chance.

I remember my first trip to Patpong in Bangkok, thinking that I must have died and there must be a heaven after all. Come to think of it, I remember thinking that on my first several trips there. This phenomonon is not limited to Asia. I've seen the same thing all over Africa and in other places where the pickings are easy and the choices seemingly limitless.

I've met the Slayer's nephew and I understand exactly what Slayer is talking about, but I don't think there's anything that anyone can do about it. He's not the first, and he surely will not be the last to get ensnared.

:D

GE

Dashing Don

09-15-06, 14:50

I must say that the last few posts are very interesting. I too, remember my first trip to SE Asia and how enchanting it was. Guess what? It still is! For me, to go into a bar filled with girls in bikinis and pick one and be fornicating with her a half hour later is dynamite! Unbeatable. And it never loses its allure.

Would I be doing it if I lived in the PI full time? Maybe. GE, its not a given that because you live there, the bars become boring. How do I know that? Because a week after I left Davao a couple of years ago, we saw Maurice O'Flanagan in Angeles City, and he's an expat.

I'm sure that the guys who fall in love with PI girls are having a whale of a time too. If it doesn't work out, they'll lick their wounds for a while, and then draw from the well again. They can keep on doing this until they finally get what they want.

Last category is the older expat who has a young 'wife'. Way, way younger than he could hope to get back in the States. You yourself, GE, have extolled this possibility and the preciousness of it.

It seems that whatever type of woman anyone wants, they can be found in the PI and its all good. The only caution is to keep your finances totally separate so that you can live to fight another day if necessary.

Don

Barbarossa1

09-15-06, 23:34

Regarding the Last Post I can only reply in the following way:

If you are from the U.S. you can only use a K visa once, and then you are done, unless you can prove that she used you, good luck on that one.

My advise is that you never, ever, never, ever immigrate any women over to the U.S. In my line of work I often see what happens. Lets say things do not work out and she is not the same girl(seems to happen ALOT) and you refuse to change, by continuing her sponsership, her status to an LPR(Legla Permanent Resident) and you kick her to the curb. Now what, well if she is smart, and a lot of these ladies are fairly intelligent, she will accuse you of abusing her and self petition, if she is believed, you are now fucked, and she will become an LPR even without you.

Hate to be so cynical, but I have lived it and I see it all of the time. I mean I have had clients who's wife gave him the Clap or much much worse. You just never know.

You have to realize that to a certain degree as soon as your future wife lands on U.S. soil has a tremendous advantage on you. In the state that I work in Community Property is the law, so everything that you earn through wages she now has a RIGHT to 1/2 of it. And if you have a business you can get really screwed, no pun intended.

My advise, and one that I give my clients is that if you absolutely can not live without this girl, and she is IT for you, and you MUST bring her into the country, then show her a very strong Pre-Nuptial Agreement. One that allows you to keep EVERYTHING that you have or earn during the marriage, and one where she waives all spousal support(sorry gents but you can never waive child support) and see how she reacts. I have noticed that sometimes that the bride to be freaks out completely, and I tell him, this lady is not for you!

The best situation is one where you can have a women in a foreign country and keep her there, or to a country that is closer to you. If your lady can not get a tourist visa to the U.S., what about Canada or Mexico? If you live anywhere near these places then just have your honey on the other side of the border, and it now is cheaper to keep her happy, because believe me it can get very expensive if you bring a 3rd world girl to the U.S. and you make a decent living!

The very best situation is to keep her in her own country and you visit her, but alas some gentlemen do not have that option.

I hope this clarifies some issues for everyone.

EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.

Finrod

09-16-06, 04:10

This great post really belongs in the "filipinas - opinions & advice" thread. Not sure I know how to make a link to Barbarosa's post in that thread, perhaps someone can do that.

His advice is exactly what I have been thinking about the honey I met: keep her there in the Phils while my money stays where I come from. If someday time from now I decide to stay in the Phils long term, then sure she's with me if she's still around. I really don't want to bring her home nor do I want to marry her, but I know she has those thoughts in her head. She's told me about a friend she just met who is going to the US on a fiancee visa later this year so I think she'll be leaning on me for one of those someday. Well I only have one thing to say in Thai: "chaat naa". We'll see how that goes over.

Dragon Slayer

09-16-06, 14:23

Pals,

I Post about my nephew's first Trip to the Phils and Davao and the Board "lights up" with talk of prenuptials and whatever. Last evening while drinking a fine 2000 French Red Bordeaux, I chatted with GE. Asked the usual, "read the Posts today on the Davao Board"? He said "yes, you seem to provoke comments".

I have been travelling here 4-5 times a year for 18 years now. Last Trip was # 95. Trips 1-12 were only to Thaniland and # 13 was my first to the Phils. Have not been to Thailand for over three years now, mainly because I discovered China (8 Trips there since Aug '03). I personally do NOT hold such a bleak view of Filipinas and YES, I have lots to lose in terms of finances. I do know quite a few success stories of marriages lasting over 20 years. Longer than many of my friends married to American women here.

Protecting your assets (and your ass) is NOT an insurmountable task. As to the prenuptial, showing her that in the Phils is useless. THe other party to the forthcoming marriage (I have known many instances here in the US where the woman was the rich one) must have access to separate Legal Counsel for an "in depth" review of the proposed Prenuptial Agreement prior to signing. Never hurts to have an LLC and an irrevocable trust formed long before the wedding also. Lot of work? Yes. Worth it? you bet.

As to the Nephew and the possibility of Elaine arriving at my doorstep. You guys need to look at a map of the USA. The Kid lives nearly 3,000 miles from me in NYC. Been 13 years since any member of my Family has visited me ( I tell them "NO" always) and doubt anyone will arrive any time soon.

I talked to his Mother today on important matters of my Father's will. He has told her nothing of his Trip. She had no idea he even met the witch, Rose. I told her of my disappointment in his having no gift for my Son at the Reception and nothing for my two little girls. He was taken care of everywhere he went in the Phils yet saw no need to repay anyone's generosity, including GE's, with so much as dinner and drinks or a bottle of French Red. She said he probably thought it was "unnecessary". Offered to talk to him but I told her it would be useless. "Small thinkers" do not change.

I have not spoken to him since his early morning departure from my home on Leyte Aug 23. GoodEnough is the only one who can shed any light on how the Kid did in Davao and no one has any idea where he went, He did not even eat a single lunch at Henny's, let alone drinks and dinner. My assupmtion is that Rose took him to some filipino carenderias and outside stalls. His pention for not spending money would have found this appealing.

Now back to the important matter of Davao Pussy. As GE and I discussed, many guys come here and leave disappointed. Reasons are many and I will pass on the ones dealing with the guys themselves (ie: "Freddy Kruger" could not have scored in most of the clubs here even, let alone with the regular women). We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy.

This Post is long enough.

Dragon Slayer

HenryV

09-16-06, 17:40

Wooow.

"We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy."

For those of us who just don't have the time, and are little more cerebral, an "or" would have been nice.

Pals,

I Post about my nephew's first Trip to the Phils and Davao and the Board "lights up" with talk of prenuptials and whatever. Last evening while drinking a fine 2000 French Red Bordeaux, I chatted with GE. Asked the usual, "read the Posts today on the Davao Board"? He said "yes, you seem to provoke comments".

I have been travelling here 4-5 times a year for 18 years now. Last Trip was # 95. Trips 1-12 were only to Thaniland and # 13 was my first to the Phils. Have not been to Thailand for over three years now, mainly because I discovered China (8 Trips there since Aug '03). I personally do NOT hold such a bleak view of Filipinas and YES, I have lots to lose in terms of finances. I do know quite a few success stories of marriages lasting over 20 years. Longer than many of my friends married to American women here.

Protecting your assets (and your ass) is NOT an insurmountable task. As to the prenuptial, showing her that in the Phils is useless. THe other party to the forthcoming marriage (I have known many instances here in the US where the woman was the rich one) must have access to separate Legal Counsel for an "in depth" review of the proposed Prenuptial Agreement prior to signing. Never hurts to have an LLC and an irrevocable trust formed long before the wedding also. Lot of work? Yes. Worth it? you bet.

As to the Nephew and the possibility of Elaine arriving at my doorstep. You guys need to look at a map of the USA. The Kid lives nearly 3,000 miles from me in NYC. Been 13 years since any member of my Family has visited me ( I tell them "NO" always) and doubt anyone will arrive any time soon.

I talked to his Mother today on important matters of my Father's will. He has told her nothing of his Trip. She had no idea he even met the witch, Rose. I told her of my disappointment in his having no gift for my Son at the Reception and nothing for my two little girls. He was taken care of everywhere he went in the Phils yet saw no need to repay anyone's generosity, including GE's, with so much as dinner and drinks or a bottle of French Red. She said he probably thought it was "unnecessary". Offered to talk to him but I told her it would be useless. "Small thinkers" do not change.

I have not spoken to him since his early morning departure from my home on Leyte Aug 23. GoodEnough is the only one who can shed any light on how the Kid did in Davao and no one has any idea where he went, He did not even eat a single lunch at Henny's, let alone drinks and dinner. My assupmtion is that Rose took him to some filipino carenderias and outside stalls. His pention for not spending money would have found this appealing.

Now back to the important matter of Davao Pussy. As GE and I discussed, many guys come here and leave disappointed. Reasons are many and I will pass on the ones dealing with the guys themselves (ie: "Freddy Kruger" could not have scored in most of the clubs here even, let alone with the regular women). We both agreed that they do NOT take the time to meet the regular women here. I guess many just do not have the initiative, social skills or whatever it takes to approach a lady, say hello and arrange dinner, karaoke or any of the things that these women enjoy.

This Post is long enough.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-16-06, 21:59

Pals,

My Posts keep getting the "blue copy" treatment. Not certain why. Now I have mentioned many times that I have NOT met many guys from this Board, although I DO like many guys from this Board and would have liked to have seen them at my Son's Baptism and two parties on successive nights.

Still, I have read many Posts here and I am giving my personal feeling on the situation. First, I seriously believe that many guys "want their pussy handed to them". Not only here. I have had plenty of "friends" (not real friends) back in my City who would want to get in touch with me when I was holding a party or to be introduced to women. The guy GE met in April 2004 from my City, who GE refers to as "Cheez whiz" and I call the "Bone Collector" (guy has more skeletons in his "closet" than the County Morgue), is a Case in Point.

Finally, sick at long last of his contacting me solely to accompany me on Trips to Asia and for Pussy Introductions, I told him he would have "no problem on his own" meeting women in Davao. His response was simple: never heard from him again. Which, to be honest, in very gratifying. He wanted me to fix him up with my Annie's fellow nurses and the young nursing graduates she had in training at Cebu Doctors' Hospital where she was Head Nurse at the time. The fact that "BONES" had never done squat for me or even offered a simple "thanks Slayer" was something he could not comprehend.

Like my Nephew, "the Kid" and many GE has met here, they forget this is a "Two Way Street". Last week I posted from the War Room, GE's Office in Davao which we have used for nearly three years to confer on Davao Team matters and Pussy Hunting. My nephew was a major topic due to his "lack of gratitude" to both of us. GoodEnough then pulled out his mini computer, ipod and cell combo. He began to read several texts and PM's to me from guys on this Board. They, one and all, were asking him for favors. In one particular instance the guy was asking for "another favor" and also for assistance for some pal of his whom GE does not know from Bin Laden.

GE told me, I did favors for this guy before when he was here and he showed no gratitude. No offer of a dinner and/or drinks or anything to reciprocate for what GE had done for this jerk. I personally DO NOT have the set of balls on my 6'4", 240# body to do this to anyone. GE is NOT his "daddy" to arrange his hotels and hook him up here.

The "I am too busy" to meet regular women is coming from guys whom I am quite certain have tons of free time. I have my own Firm and my two children and my other little girl in the Philippines. I imagine I could use this "too busy" argument just like everyone else. So lets' all be realistic. Some guys just use this as an excuse and then come here and complain because they did not meet the "solid boardfeet of Davao Pussy" they anticipated.

Dragon Slayer

Dashing Don

09-16-06, 22:09

GoodEnough

09-17-06, 04:03

Don may speak for the majority of guys who come here for "sports fucking." That's fine and as the Slayer and I, as well as others have said, this is not a good town for that sport. If you're into paying for as much pussy as possible in the shortest amount of time, that's your business, but don't come here as you will no doubt leave disappointed.

It may surprise Don to learn however, that there are other guys, believe it or not, who are tired of that scene and are looking to hook up with an actual woman that they like for a possible longer-term relationship. For those guys, especially those with time to invest, this is a great place because it offers multiple venues and opportunities to meet such women. And no, it's not at all the same in this regard as the US or Europe. It's much easier for one thing, and the girls' expectations are much lower for another. Also, the path from drinks and dinner to bed is much shorter. To use myself as an example, I had 20+ years of "sports fucking," and I got tired of it and wanted a change. Most of the other expats whom I know here are in the same boat.

From the number of PMs I receive asking for introductions, advice and additional information, I know that there must be hundreds of other guys who read this thread who are looking for the same thing. The Slayer gets even more PMs than I do about this subject, so there must be a whole universe of guys out there for whom "sports fucking" is not the sine qua non of their existence.

Yes, being successful in this regard requires at least minimal social graces, a willingness to spend some funds up front without necessarily getting laid immediately, and just a soupcon of charm. For those willing to make such an investment, and who are not still fascinated by the chance to bag 20 women or so in six or seven days, the payback on investment is substantial. For those who are not interested, Davao is probably not for you.

:D

GE

Surfer

09-17-06, 04:19

With a just a LITTLE charm and game, an average looking guy can score loads of regular girls in the PI. It is not like you need weeks of courting to score. Usually by the second or third date you will get action IMHO. After a first date with no sex, go pick up a hooker. Is that so hard?

I load my suitcase with little gifts to give in lieu of cold hard cash (trhough I do give small amounts of taxi money as the girls are often very poor).

Manila is loaded with hard core hos too, so there is something for everybody in the PI. But it is the ease of getting non pros that makes the PI more fun than Thailand IMHO. I like Thailand for the gogos and bj bars, but I like the PI for the ego boost of scoring so many "good" girls,

Cebu Local

09-17-06, 05:39

Why would any monger travel thousands of miles to meet a 'regular woman'. We can do that in our own backyards. Go through the bullshit of begging for phone numbers, first dates, pecks on the cheek and after a big investment, finally, a fuck. What follows is the possessiveness, emotional swordplay and all the other horseshit. Now why the fuck would anyone travel thousands of miles for that? Don't make any kinda sense.

Yo Slayer! We travel to PI to sportsfuck. Forget the chocolates will ya. Its cash on the pillow. Thats the way to go. Wise up.

DonWith all due respect Senator Why do people spend thousands of Dollars to fly to Alaska,Hawaii,South America to Fish,When they can buy fish at the supermarket.Its the thrill of fishing and thats why SOME people prefer to fish for regular women in Davao.You have to realize,there is something fun in catching your own meal then simply buying it.Cheers

Dashing Don

09-17-06, 06:36

GE writes that he gets a lot of PMs from guys needing introductions and such. These guys are also known as lurkers. If they can't even write a post, well of course they are going to need help meeting the opposite sex. A lurker is about as useful as tits on a bull, and has about as much to offer.

Now if GE were to write that he is getting PMs from guys who write here, then I'd be shocked. Especially if GE were to write that Bareback Bill or Surfer PMd him for help with an introduction, I'd advise GE to scale back his humanitarian activities.

As it appears to me, this board is for guys who fuck hos. Over and over. Those socially challenged who are looking for intros should be on Filipina Heart or Blossom.

Finally, I don't understand how a red-blooded male can get tired of fucking different women. I know that on occasion, after days of strenuous fucking, I want a break. Maybe I dont want to even look at a pussy for a while. But within a few days, the juices start flowing, that pecker starts perking and before I know it, Im on the street, looking for a piece of ass. I don't say to myself, ' I better stop this, I've been doing this for twenty years'. No way! There's a need to be fulfilled, a hole to be plugged. And while I'm not married now, when I was, I made a point of banging the old lady when I returned from the trips. Meaning, I don't think that having a wife and being a monger/sportsfucker is mutually exclusive.

Don

Dragon Slayer

09-17-06, 07:07

Pals,

Do not know you all. But I have heard detailed descriptions of you from GE and others on this Board. I wish I could meet women in my City who look half as hot as the ones that I meet in Davao, Cebu, southern China and elsewhere in Asia.

As I told GE last week in Davao, even in my much younger, ballplaying days when I was 40 pounds lighter and a handsome "jock" I did not meet any women who looked even remotely like Jen from this last Trip, my daughter's Mother, "Shanghai Baby" in China, my "Beijing Doll" from Beijing (of course) now in the UK, Jing in southern China (photos here) or many others in Asia.

I do have the financial resources to fuck hot looking pros in my City (there are tons of those as this is a resort area) but I choose not to do this. No personal interest in pro fucking. In Asia I occasionally see a Pro I just have to have and give her a good fucking, pay her and leave it at that.

Now guys somehow I like you much more on your "Fight Club". When you move your "game" here it loses its "glitter". I DO NOT need to "wise up". Sorry, 4 years undergraduate university study and three years post graduate study gives me all the smarts I need, especially for the WSG Boards.

I see no problem with "sport fucking" and I enjoyed getting together in Cebu three weeks ago after my Son's Reception with guys fro this Board and hitting the Clubs. We had a great time adn I should Post in Cebu on that occasion. I come to the Phils and China for the "drop dead gorgeous" women who are NOT pros.

Dragon Slayer

Harvey WB

09-17-06, 14:03

OK, so I'm now married and am not into the Sports F scene.

Actually I got tired of it very quickly, before I got married, and preferred the relationships I developed with non P4P ladies in Davao, Cebu and elsewhere. Still had friends who were P4P, but did not go that route after I decided it was not for me (well, OK, had a few "slips", LOL, but that was in China).

Davao is definitely limited for Sports, but is great for meeting and making "friends".

GoodEnough

09-17-06, 14:17

I realize that this is probably a pointless discussion, so I won't comment on the topic after this post. However, it seems clear that there are two more or less generic classes of guys writing about this: those who are into the whole multiple partner, p4p scene, and those who have grown tired of it and want something different. There's nothing wrong with either one, and there's certainly no right or wrong. I guess that some cities are better for one and some cities are better for the other.

As to the guys who PM me, I've never done a tally, but I would estimate that about half are lurkers and the other half post. I never get posts asking about where to find hookers in Davao so I guess those who write to me are a self-selected sample.

All of the women I've seen with the Slayer here--and I've seen a bunch--are gorgeous and from the "normal" population. That is, they're not bar girls. The last lady he was with, Jen, was stunning. He, better than anyone, proves my point about Davao; it's a great place to establish relationships such as those that he has had.

I'm not disparaging sports fucking either, as I've done lots of it and enjoyed most of it.

:D

GE

Marcusau

09-17-06, 15:31

While in Manila a few weeks ago I was accosted by a quite ordinary SW named Lea (like Princess Lea in Star Wars). I was with a couple of colleagues at the time so I wasn't interested. I mentioned that I might have be traveling to Davao so she showed me a photo on her cell phone of her Sister/Cousin (aren't they all) named Amore who lives in Davao. Amore's phone number is +63 928 320 7331. Her photo looked model quality with rather impressive boobs. If you're in Davao, you might like to try Amore and give us all a report. Tell her that you ran into her Sister Lea in Makati. Happy trails!

Dragon Slayer

09-18-06, 02:05

Pals,

I was I ordered food and it just arrived. Beside, I have been slmming some Cellar Quality wines and having a great time. Had calls from My Beijig Doll in the Uk and talked with Jen here and my daughter and her mother and my Son's mother. Sometimes life is good.

I will comment later.

We have to all get together for Ge's New Year's Eve Party and my Party in Davao and the follow up Party in Cebu in the first week of anuary.

Dragn Slayer

X Man

09-18-06, 15:56

Okay, can we have some translation please. Have you been slamming wine or slimming wine. And if you have been "slimming", could you please give me details about how one would do that. Sounds interesting.

GIRL COUNT:

Well since DS can give us a day by day girl count, why can't I?

Lalalalala....we go to a developed country....

Tonight's date really wanted it, I could see it in her eyes. Not to mention that she recommended a restaurant just five minutes from her apartment (after seeing a movie in a different location). Miami Vice, not as bad as some of the critics say, but I not so good either. You'd think they could find a better ASIAN ACTRESS...looks and actings...

Tonights date didn't look so good as she did a week ago Saturday when I went to a party and met here. She had some nice lush cleavage showing and I was very drunk. Sober and in daylight, she was a bit older and a bit fatter in the thighs than I expected. When I said good night and shaked her hand, she had a bit of venom in her eye. Damn, women refuse men all the time...but do it to them and you would think we shat on their doorstep.

But that same night (of the party), I also met a girl who had managed to get into my futon a few months ago, but somehow messed things up. I've stayed on friendly terms, but never had a subsequent date. She was at the party where I met tonight's date. We happened to bump into eachother on the way to the rest rooms. We stopped to say hello ...and before I knew it we were French kissing there in front of the restroom doors.

But, who cares. Thursday night I had a skinny girl, very skinny. I like the anorexic type. She was a squealer. I live in a five story apartment building...so I opened up the balcony windows. I hope the neighbors enjoyed it.

x

Dragon Slayer

09-18-06, 22:57

Pals,

First Schramsberg is how the excellent Sparkling Wine (champagne NOT from Champagne Region of France) is spelled with an R. Spoke to my pal, the distributor and the Rose' is limited production and not easy to obtain. You can PM me if you need a case of this. And No, I will not be making any money on it.

I meant slamming. I did a lot of misspelling but then I was drinking some excellent California reds from my Cellar that had been in there over three years (1999 & 2000 vintages) whle watching NFL football. I had calls from two ladies in Asia and spoke to three others as well. The "kid" in NYC also caled but we did not have an opportunity to discuss his Davao Trip. My Father's Estate is taking precedent over everything else now. If one more person, attorney, friend or whomever, asks me why he names my eldest sister and not me as Executor, I will fucking scream.

I do not get the tons of P's I used to receive from lurkers, most of whom wanted me to fix them up with women. I stopped offering ladies cellphone numbers and e-mail addresses and they stopped sending me PMs.

I knew tow guys several years ago, both computer guys (one a programmer and the other a computer consultant). They both claimed they did not need to go to Asia to score with gorgeous women. Both were very ugly looking men by anyone's judgment. I had the opportunity to meet the women they married (one was married 4 times before I lost track of him). To be kind, I will call their women "not god looking". In reality they were so fucking ugly I could not even look at the one. The other was plain and had a butt the size of New England and dressed in what looked like Thrift Store throw aways.

Yet these two "studs" were boasting of how they had "pussy a plenty" while the Slayer travelled across the world for his. The one had the famous quote he kept giving me "any pussy is better than no pussy. Remember this Slayer". I must say he was definitely a Testament to his own Rhetoric. Not only were his last two wives that I met ugly. Each was several years older than him and earning little or no money while doing a good job of consuming his salary. Oh, almost forgot, they were mean and nasty.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-18-06, 23:20

Pals,

Here are photos of some of the women I have travelled across the world to be with during the last 1 1/2 years Yes, I am sure all of you get much lovlier, sexier, more beautiful women right where you live in your country. RIGHT!

Well, the Dragon Slayer, former ballplayer who still looks good and who has his own successful Company and is financially solvent (and then some) does not.

First is a photo of my Jen from Davao taken by GE at his home ten days ago. The next two are of my "Beijing Doll" whom I met in Beijing but is now in the UK. The next three are of my "Shanghai Baby" in southern China. A magnificent women and I "blew it". The last four are of Hui Li in southern China. She is 26 and lovely.

I have much better photos of my Beijing Doll nude but she is very much in my life now so I so not want to have her face here for all to see. Same for not showing nudes of Jen. I doubt if Hui Li would be offended as she enjoys posing nude. None of these women are or ever were Pros or semi-pros. All but one has at least a four year College Degree.

Okay I know you guys have much lovlier women at your doorsteps nightly. So enjoy your lives and let the Slayer live his.

Dragon Slayer

X Man

09-19-06, 02:56

Thanks for the pictures. Your china doll is really...a doll!

As for drinking and spelling they don't go well together. Looking back at my post from last night certainly confirms that! I was drinking an inexpensive Chardonnay from Australia called Yellow tail. Hmmm, "yellow tail"?

And a great quote.

"He is a testament to his own rhetoric". Good one.

Hoping to make it to Davao around the holidays.

X

Tungsten Chef

09-19-06, 04:06

Hey I'm in! I guess after awhile lurking here you can join the club? Anyway, heres my story. My first time in the Philippines was Jan. 2005. I was in Mindanao for 1 month. My gf and her mother met me at the airport in Davao. We stayed overnight at the Apo Veiw and the next day we took the bus to her place in Mangagoy. I work with many Filapinas and most of them told me, " be careful where you go, what you do. Etc. Etc. Etc". I didn't venture around town much by myself until I got bored after a few days. Theres not much to do in these small places. Internet cafe, a few cheesy restaurants, thats about it. I decided to go jogging and walking alone and like some of you say here, it is quite unnerving the 1st time. The staring and people calling you "joe". At first I thought they were making fun of me by calling me that name until the family said it's just their way of trying to say hi. The funniest thing though, was when I came back to the house after my journey the door was locked. Yeah, they were all out looking for me. LOL. Well to make a long story short I'm going back to Mindanao in early 07 and this time I want to stay in Davao for about a good week by myself. I want to have some fun. Nudge. Nudge. Wink. Wink. It's kind of stiff being with my gf and her mom. The mother is quite religious, which really isn't a big thing. Sometimes though I get uncomfortable around her because she is always replying to my words with religious connotations. I can't be with them 24/7, I need some relaxation before I'm off to the province again. I hope to wander around Davao and check out the hotties. Maybe I'll see some of yous around and we can have a drink or 2. I enjoy reading the posts here.

Spam Hog

09-19-06, 06:45

Im ashamed of myself for not publically thanking the slayer for the magnificent party he threw during the christening of his son, lot of excuses why a belated mention mainly due to computer repair, But anyhow thought I would combine it with the appreciation for the pixs of the much awaited (on my part) view of the much taslked about Shanghai baby, yes my friend she is all that you said and probably a lot more, that body is PERFECTLY proportioned.

Anyhow to the rest of ye who may have doubt re the DS all I can say is I have LONG understood why he does so well in the PI and other places as the Man has a touch of class. That is something westerners fail to understand concerning their dealings with Asian's particularly the women...they admire FACE, if I have to explain that concept to any of you then go back to sociology 101 and start over. Women admire a man of means who knows how to treat them well and with a bit of class and even charm, Filipinas are very susceptible to this, it isn't just the money or the fact that you're a "rich" westerner its knowing how to act and treat people properly DS got that part covered.

The Spam hog

GoodEnough

09-19-06, 11:27

As usual, SH got it right. It's not the money, or at least, it's not only the money. It's having a certain amount of charm, gentility, and the ability to actually listen to women and respond to them as people. I don't think you even need Sociology 101 to understand this. Some guys get it, and some don't.

Spam Hog, if you're around these parts for New Year's Eve, please join the party. I spoke to the Slayer at some length this morning and he confirmed that he's planning to be here. I figure that we'll round up some of the guys we both know from Davao, and their ladies, add a couple of "extra" ladies for those who may come without, and then take it from there. Let me know if you will be around Davao during that time.

:D

GE

Dragon Slayer

09-20-06, 01:00

Pals,

Thankyou Spamhogs and GoodEnough for your kind words and XMan for his compliments. I got it wrong there. The first photo is of Jen. The next three are of Shanghai Baby and then, two of Beijing Doll. Notice her body is visible but her face is obscured. The last four are of Hui Li.

I see we have a Lurker converted to a Davao afficionado. Welcome. There will be two parties held in Davao around the end of this year.

Remember the Bone Collector? This guy was a former acquaintance of mine living here in my City. Bones is a world class lurker on this Board. Would not join as he said it would embarrasss him and hurt his reputation. I never could determine what reputation Bones had as everyone considered him a "First Rate Asshole". Bones never got it right about Asian Women. To the Bone Collector they were just "tools" to be used and discarded. I finally grew weary of Bones and his fucking piece of shit attitude to Asian Women and people in general.

Enough on Bones and back to much more pleasant matters. I assume the one guy wants more photos of Shanghai Baby as it was her photos that I confused with my Beijing Doll. I will scan some and include with more photos of Hui Li and my Beijing Doll.

Dragon Slayer

Bilbo Baggins

09-20-06, 09:37

Anyone know the cost of a CT scan in Davao hospital my girlfriend went there with her mom for treatment of a headache and couldn't afford the scan. She won't accept any money from me for anything. I send her load so we can talk everyday but even then she doesn't like it. You find a decent girl and can't help her its frustrating.

Tungsten Chef
I'm heading to Mangagoy next year I hope it is a place an expat can live in. I don't mind quiet, dull and boring so long as I got a beach. I am going to check out Davao just in case its too quiet.

GoodEnough
Always enjoyed your posts you are singularly the most helpful person on any of the Philippine boards I usually don't post because I haven't been to Davao before but I am planning on coming next April

Dragon Slayer
you are the most colourful person I've seen on the boards and no I can't pull any of the chicks you can in even in my own home town which is full of beautiful asian women mostly Tiawanese maybe you should hit these shores one day. There are the lovely P4P ones here cos its legal but its cheaper in the PI and some of your ladies do have bodies to die for, it was nice to see them.

Cebu Local

09-20-06, 15:25

Dragon Slayer

09-20-06, 16:15

Pals,

This was my Woman for a brief, fantastic period that ended over a year ago. SHe was a fantastic woman and my stupid desire for "the pussy on the next 'block"" messed it up. She quit her work, left her apartment and moved home to her parents place in Sichuan Province and soon after changed her cellphone number and stopped the yahoo e-mail address.

Wish I could find her and slither across the floor on my belly, lick at her toes begging forgiveness and a Second Chance. Second Chances come mainly Golf and Table Tennis, not in Pussy THumping.

Anyway, I would offer her diamond necklaces, new car, home in the country, anything just to have trousersaurus rex buried deep in her "love nest" again.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-21-06, 00:26

Pals,

In case some guys wondered why the women I just had photos of included were Chinese with the exception of Jen, it is because I have posted photos of many of the other women in Davao and Cebu here already. At least a dozen nudes of Pixie, half a dozen of Cham, photos of Elaine and many others. I would not have ever listed photos of my SHanghai Baby but she is obviously done with me. If I cannot locate her (believe me I am fucking trying) I doubt others can. Besides the photos in no way degrade or embarass a truly magnificent woman. I knew you guys would enjoy finally seeing them.

If I appear like a man who claims starvation while standing there wth "a large loaf of bread under each arm and a bottle of fine, red wine in his mouth", well I guess it is accurate. Still hard to get over her. Same holds for the one in Nagoya Japan from 1994. And she in no way gave anywhere near the fabulous blowjob (had great tits though) Shanghai Baby did.

A footnote to Beijing Doll's photos. She is holding a riedel crystal (same as I gave GE for a gift 2 years ago) glass othe Schramsberg Rose" "Champagne" in her hadn in the one nude photo of her.

On another Note at the Reception Party at Cafe Adriatico for my Son last August 18, a quorum of Davao Team members being present, it was placed in nomination by GoodEnough that "the Kid", my Nephew, be made an official Member of the Davao Team. Seconded by Spamhogs and a vote then taken he was unanimously voted into our small, elite Group. That evening he was presented with his Davao Team shirt, making it official. He is alreadyasking when we will hold our next Meeting. Last week of December in Davao.

I hope someone else will run for President. I have hled this position for nearly three years and want some other Member to take over.

First four photos are more of Hui Li, 26, in southern China. The other two are of my "Beijing Doll', a wonderful Lady. I did not want to have her face showing, especially as we are now talking about meeting in Hong Kong and her accompanying me to Davao. So, I was limited in photo choices. in the one she is helping herself to a glass of Champagne.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

Bilbo Baggins

09-21-06, 13:58

Using Cebu rates as a guide about 8-10 thousand pesos might be a good range.GE care to confirm this ??? CheersThanks for that Cebu Local I appreciate it. No wonder they went back to the province she told me its a family problem and they will solve it.

GoodEnough

09-22-06, 03:57

Using Cebu rates as a guide about 8-10 thousand pesos might be a good range.GE care to confirm this ??? Cheers
The rate here for a CT scan is probably between PhP4-6,000. I think the only hospital with the equipment is Davao Doctors Hospital. Based on my recent experience however, I would be cautious about getting any sophisticated tests done here; not because there's little in the way of equipment (which is true) but because the ability of trained professionals to interpret test results correctly or even to operate the equipment correctly is highly questionnable. I would encourage anyone with anything more than a routine medical problem to go to Singapore.

:D

GE

Bilbo Baggins

09-23-06, 04:52

Thanks GoodEnough, Davao is their third largest city so thats scary information on their medical expertise. Whats Davao like for dental work then? I'll be there for about a month and want some things fixed.

GoodEnough

09-23-06, 15:45

Surprisingly, there are some excellent dentists here in Davao, many of whom have received part of their training in the US or Europe. The quality of the work they do is typically up to Western standards, and the prices are at most 25% of what one would pay in the US.

:D

GE

Dragon Slayer

09-28-06, 22:15

Pals,

A heavy work load and dealing with the massive problem of settling my Father's Estate keeps me very busy. I have had no time to Post and it appears the Board has gone dormant.

I hope GE is enjoying himself as I have been unable to contact him. I am now ready to hold the Holiday Party in Davao as my good friend in the Wine/Spirits Business needs my Professionnal assistance. He is also a Client and made a "prepayment" of a case of the magnificent Schramsberg Rose 2003 "Champagne" and a mixed case of magnificent Italian Reds, including a 1990 Barolo. He even helped me find a new computer repair guy as it looked like my 6 month old Laptop had "bit the dust" leaving me with the task of buying a new one at a cost well in excess of my airfare to the Phils next Trip.

However, the guy fixed it for $ 50 (WOW) and I was so ecstatic that I ordered and paid for two "platinum level" Charles Heidsick "95 'white label'. Champagnes. Steve was obviously happy also. He told me they wholesale for $80/btl ($ 120 - $130 retail) but I could have them for $70 each. I plan to bring one of these bottles along with the Schramsberg Rose for my next Trip and to drink with lovely Filipinas, and my good friends here..

I have been talking to Jen reguarly. She is planning a Trip to Zamboanga to Visit her Family. I have not been there since 1995 so I told her I would fly there for a few days.

I plan to do some House Hunting in Davao this next Trip. I am considering buying a Home in the same gated community as GoodEnough. I like it there and GE has offered to check on my home if I am back working in the USA. So far I have had five different ladies offer to "look after" the house for me, including Jen and my daughter's mother. I already built a home for my daughter and her mother on the ocean. They need to look after that one. They can visit this one with me.

In any event I have no plans of ever retiring and I am much too young anyway. But my home here is paid for and I think I need to make plans now rather than just talk about doing something. I have my Attorney in Cebu whom I retained for handling the formal name change of both of my children to my Name. He will provide the necessary legal expertise. The birth of my Son facilitates this so that I will never need a Filipina on the Property Deed or Title of any future Business I might commence here.

Mothers of both my children have been informed of my intent to acquire Property here, together with my Son & Daughter (but NOT them), and they are very happy. I spend so much time here it is a smart move.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-28-06, 22:43

Pals,

I do not think that Medical Care in the Philippines is bad. Both of my children became ill recently and my Infant Son was even hospitalized. They both received excellent care and the cost was a small fraction of what it would be here.

The "Kid", my Nephew, did finally give me a brief report on his Davao Trip. As you all heard, I was on the Island with m two little girls and my daughter's mother. Then I visited Pixie (photos here). I arrived in Davao the day after his departure. Yes, I planned it this was, but still Elaine and the bit__ Rose, had to "fuck with my head", sending me insulting text messages as I was literally riding in the Marco Polo van to the Hotel.

Apparently, Rose met him at Davao Int'l Airport and accompanied him to the Marco Polo. He stopped by Henny's late that evening with Rose for "ONE FUCKING BEER" before they closed. Obviously my Nephew is NOT into Fine Dining and elegance. "Blue Collar Johnny" was vague about what he did the rest of the time. Never made it to any of the Davao Clubs or even the Eagle's Nest Bar in the Marco Polo. I do not even know where he ate. Only that Rose was with him the entire Trip.

As mentioned, the "Kid" did not even get laid. What he did all the time is a "Mystery for the Ages". How he and Rose got along is hard to comprehend. He is a "Man's Man". Drinks Jameson's whiskey and smokes several packs of Marlboro's each day. Rose does not drink at all (would not drink champagne with Elaine and myself last February) and hates being around smokers.

In any event the Nephew said he had a fantastic time. Not sure when, if ever, he will return. I handled this Trip for him and Rose can handle the next one. He lives nearly 3,000 miles from me and was last out here for a visit in 1985. Not mch chance of my seeing Rose with him at my front door any time soon.

I will fly back to NYC to resolve my Father's Estate very soon. Hope to make a Trip to China and the Phils in late November.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-29-06, 02:07

Pals,

I completed a mayor project for a Client here and took a very late lunch. If the matter is extremely important I pass on food, sleep and even pussy. Finished, I went to eat. Called my little daughter and told her to have her mother buy her another of the baby, giant aruwana fish that are now for sale in a Shop 1 1/2 hours from where they live.

In my younger days I owned a combination Dog Kennel, Grooming salon and pet shop (in addition to my Firm; YES I was foolish). My daughter has inherited my love of animals/creatures to the extent that they have two "In Ground" Koi Fish Ponds and a giant aquarium housing a giant aruwana like the one in the fish tank in the presidential suite of Casa Leticia. Sady, the hotel staff killed it recently by adding chlorinated water.

Jen and I were in the Suite when they asked if they could enter to put the new, baby aruwana in the giant aquarium. We both took photos of the Event. These fish come from South America and eat primarily live fish. Grow to three feet in lenght. My daughter's was a tiny, six inch baby that is now 1 1/2 feet in length and eats three fish daily. My daughter is "crazy" about the fish. The idea of getting a second has her ecstatic.

I got off the phone and in five minutes got a call from my "Beijing Doll" (photos below). Lonely and depressed, she asked if we could meet somewhere in late October. I told her I could get away for a short Trip and we can meet in Hong Kong and then fly to Davao. If direct flights are not yet ready we will make a brief stop in Cebu for a night or two and then continue.

GoodEnough are you ready to meet my beautiful, chinese lady? Fluent in english and a 9.2 in looks and a 9.4 in body she is magnificent. Very low maintenance as she earns good money and has no problem paying her own way. Loves fine, red wines and champagnes.

I am now making plans for my End of Year Trip and the Party in Davao between Christmas & New Year's. GoodEnough will host the New Year's Eve Party and this should be a great Trip. I have decided to invite the "Kid" as I have to stay in Good Standing with my Mother. Her death anniversary just passed and I have had some strange dreams (NO, I was NOT doing drugs or drinking heavily; well NOT too heavily).

Anyway, anyone in Davao in late December should PM me now.

Dragon Slayer

Tout01

09-29-06, 08:47

I am pleased to report that on Monday this week I will start a six month Asian junket which will see me first in Shenzhen, China for 2mos , Phil 3mos starting Dec and Thailand 1 mos with maybe a quick 3-5 day trip to Angkor Wat if I need an extension in Thailand and a reduction in Phil.

At long last, almost six years, I can stop reading the sexploits herein and maybe contribute a bit or two and practise my social skills with ladies who don't speak much English - yet need not to.

After suffering a heavy bout of nausea and fighting back my mid to half life crisis I have earned myself a six month streatch lying on my back whilst pondering the importance of being well endowed in the tropics if not for my body then for my money.

Yes, I am going to be present in Davao for this New Year Shindig. 100%

And will post when I arrive in Davao on or about that time or as the board dictates. But then again what is a New Year Party if it is not at New Years?

I wonder if Freddie will come out? Being a New Years Party and such, it shouldnt be that difficult to find us.

GoodEnough

09-29-06, 12:43

Good to know that the Slayer is fine. I've tried to call him several times as well but with no success. However, the party is still on, I'm ordering four cases of French wine on Tuesday, and it should be fun. Anyone who gets the Dragon Slayer's imprimatur is welcome to come.

I've been in Manila for the past couple of days, and yesterday we had a major typhoon hit the city squarely with winds in excess of 176 kph. There are downed trees, light posts and billboards all over the place and 21 people were killed. The electricity died in Makati at 11 or so yesterday morning and still has not been restored in most places. Hotels and big office buildings are running on generators which means the AC sucks.

Being here reminds me why I like Davao so much more. A couple of days of the congestion, the traffic and the pollution here and I've had enough.

I actually met a guy in a bar (unintentionally) two nights ago who was at the Slayer's big bash in Cebu. I didn't recognize him, but he recognized me. A very small world indeed.

:D

GE

Cebu Local

09-29-06, 13:28

I would like to clarify that I personally do not encourage people to get Girls Pregnant and run away from their responsibilities.Formal apologies to the Slayer for the misunderstanding.

X Man

09-29-06, 15:03

Well, sorry for butting in, but the person who was worried about "pregnancy" may have been worried about scammers. CL gave his clarification of the situation. I agree with DS, the right thing to do is to take responsibility for what we do (which is hard sometimes).

We also need to make sure we don't take responsibility for someone else's mistake.

Four cases of wine?

I would like to clarify that I personally do not encourage people to get Girls Pregnant and run away from their responsibilities.Formal apologies to the Slayer for the misunderstanding.

Dragon Slayer

09-29-06, 18:09

Pals,

I would guess that the person GE met in Manila, like GE works in the Phils. His beautiful wife is close friends with my Son's mother. They actually had my Son's Mother live with them for several months once when she was in dire straits (long before she met me). They were present at the party along with her younger sister, also beautiful. We had told them to invite their infant son and other relatives to the second party, the champagne party, held in the Penthouse. He became good friends with the "kid" and went out mongering with him and guys from this Board the night of my Son's Christening.

If by some miracle my Father's Estate is settled by the end of this year, I will have one more giant thing to celebrate. I only hope none of you has a situation involving a large estate that is placed in the hands of an Executor who has trouble (seriously) in deciding what to do each day and paying bills puts her into a state of severe distress. Yet she refuses to relinquish her assigned duties to myself and my brother, both Professionals with advanced degrees (she has a H.S. diploma) and successful business careers (she is unemployed for many years now). My Father must really have hated both of us, perhpas because we became "Too successful".

Look forward to seeing many of you by Year's End. I will most likely have my little Daughter and her beautiful Mother with me in Davao for New Year's as I promised my daughter I would be with them.

Have to return to work now.

Dragon Slayer

Frequent Flier

09-29-06, 19:04

Pals,

If by some miracle my Father's Estate is settled by the end of this year, I will have one more giant thing to celebrate. I only hope none of you has a situation involving a large estate that is placed in the hands of an Executor who has trouble (seriously) in deciding what to do each day and paying bills puts her into a state of severe distress. Yet she refuses to relinquish her assigned duties to myself and my brother, both Professionals with advanced degrees (she has a H.S. diploma) and successful business careers (she is unemployed for many years now). My Father must really have hated both of us, perhpas because we became "Too successful".

And reminder to all to have a will in place. I know it sounds morbid to some, but it is inescapable. You will place loved ones in a situation possibly worse than what DS is going through without a written will, at least in America or if you are an American. Not sure of laws elsewhere.

Without a will the Government steps in and you do not want that.

No matter your age or health, especially those who travel frequently, you should have a will in place if you have wealth to leave behind.

FF

GoodEnough

09-30-06, 04:27

Four cases of wine?

Well, I'm out of stock. My friends are all wine drinkers. It's as easy to order four as it is to order one, and it's the gift-giving season so I'll probably give a lot of it away.

Just called the Slayer a couple of times, still without success. I'm still stuck here in Manila and unable to get to Davao, and there's still no electricity in most of the town. At least in Davao there are no typhoons, ever, and when the electricity does go out, it's back in a couple of hours. I do not recommend coming here after a typhoon. It well and truly sucks. No electricity means no traffic lights and you can imagine what driving here is like.

I've gotten several PMs recently from newbies thinking of making a first trip to Mindanao; all wanting to know if it's safe to go off the beaten track. Let me reiterate that the major cities in Mindanao: Davao, Cagayan de Oro, Zamboanga, and even some of the smaller towns like Malaybalay and Quezon, are perfectly safe. The smaller places don't see many foreigners, so they are somewhat of a curiosity, but there's no hostility. Stay away from Cotabato (which is a slum anyway) and all of Sulu, Basilan and Tawi-Tawi. These are where the rebels hang out, and there are no real hotels on these islands anyway. In Sulu there is a small guest house (Janet's Pension) which is reasonably safe and very basic. There's no reason at all to go to these islands and there's nothing there for you.

I got another PM from a guy wanting to know if Iligan is safe. The answer is yes, but who the hell would want to go there. It's sort of like the Trenton New Jersey of Mindanao. It's a small city about halfway between Cagayan de Oro and "The Islamic City of Marawi." There are a couple of smallish hotels, a lot of squalor and nothing much to do or see. Better to hang out in CDO and, if you absolutely must roam the wild streets of Iligan, take the one hour bus ride down and then hang out for an hour and go back to CDO.

:D

GE

Dragon Slayer

09-30-06, 07:38

Pals,

The guy GE met is a "honger on" invited by the Faimly, inlcuding the Lady physician who works with my Son's Mother in the Hospital. He is essentially a fucking loser. No i nver met him.Hie relationwith the Familyn who looked after my Son's Mother for merely six months is non-existent. The husband of the other Doct or in the Hospital, himself a pathetic "rank and rile nobody" invited thisl Loser to oor magnificent "Champange Party" in the Penthouse. I will speak to my Son's Mother os that in the future ONLY the Husband of this wonderful Filipina Physician and NOt her pathetic husband's LOSER FRiENDS come near me or my Family.

Now to more importtant matters:

CebuLocal your pathetic apology IS NOT accepted. END OF MATTER. I am now telling you (NOT ASKING) that you stay away from me forever. GoodEnough is in argeement with me on this. YES, I just finished taliking with him. Leave our Board. Got It????

I read what you said concerning men getting filipinas pregnant and abandoning them. I have met you enough to form my own personal opinoin. My Nephew, the "kid" added his own input. Please do yourself a favor and sell your travel to others and stay off the Davao Board. You are here ONLY to make money anyway.

DO NOT make me take this matter further.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-30-06, 07:54

Pals,

GoodEnough informed me he has been inundated with PMs from Cebulocal. He did not have the balls to contact me directly about his horrific assistance to some "piece of shit" rookie who wanted advice on how to "bare back fuck filipinas, get them preganant, and go home "worry free".

To help him you make me fucking sick. Just stay away from me, Cebulocal, FOREVER. Yes, I know you will tell me how you have all kinds of connections. I did my own "homework". Guys who have the money you claim actually pay for their own drinks. Not walk off on me or GoodEnough aka the other Loser I named the "the Stalker", leaving us to pay your tab.

Sorry for all the misspelllings in the former Post. I am very upset about this and this Guy. He has over 1000 Posts, mostly one sentence long and people might think that his "word" his gospel. It IS NOT.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-30-06, 08:19

Pals,

I was Posting here and GoodEnough sent me an IM over Yahoo Messenger to tell me "Great Post" pertaining to CebuLocal and how the ENTIRE DAVAO TEAM FEELS. There are exactly five (5) Members to an elite Group founded by Myself and GoodEnough back in Feb 2004 in Davao. The initial four Members included Myself, GoodEnough, SpamHogs, and Maurice O'Flanagan in Davao. Last August. a majority of Members finally Present to form a quoroum, we voted my Nephew, " the Kid" into the Davao Team.

GoodEnough says he has been inundated with PMs from Guys asking how they can enter the elite Davao Team. First off you would, I hope, want to know the benefits. We have solemnly promised to assist each other in any way possible, including Hotel discounts, Airfares, and meeting pussy, without ANY personal gain to each other individually. However, you must agree to provide the same services to the other Memebers as well.. In plain language, this is NOT a "freeloaders paradise".

A majority of Members must be present to hold a vote and elect a "New Member". This almost never occurs. We rarely get together and feel little need to add New Members. However, this can be changed. We will ALL be together the end of December. Placed in Nomination by GoodEnough for Membership is Henny, owner of two fine Restaurants in downtown Davao. Other Men wishing to become members will be voted on at the same time.

Membershp gives you the aid and assistance of ALL Davao Team Members in whatever way they can paoosibley assist you without personal gain to them. You are to provide this same service to Members, also without personal gain to YOU.

Members are given a "Davao Team" Shirt which they must purchase at a cost of P400 ($8 US). It is a polo shirt in black with an "emeral green" trim and the personal signature of Dragon Slayer (along with our Team insignia, the "Dragon"). The Pocket square is ideal for holding a 100 mg viagra pill, a condom and a small bottle of lube gel, all essential tools for the Davao Team.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

09-30-06, 08:37

Pals,

Frequent Flyer's advice is very good. Please ALL of you in situations involving a relative who has subatantial assets, do your best to convince this person to not ONLY have a Will but to name an EXECUTOR who is both responsible, reliable and efficient. "Uncle Harry" who is a 'good ol boy' or Maryjane who eveyone liked but found it tough to get through senior year of high school is NOT the person to be Executor to a multi million dollar Estate.

My Father could have saved all of us trouble. Even if he hated me, his eldest son enough to skip, he could have named our younger brother and we would be done with all of this now. Instead, I have met with advisors to determine my Legal Actions if the Executor, my eldest sister, fails to sell and distribute the massive assets of my Father's Estate, if for no other reason than she is "feeling stressed out and wants to go comatose for a few months".

Dragon Slayer

Cebu Local

09-30-06, 10:37

I will stay away from where I am not welcome.However I will post as needed if.. I visit the area.Sorry Things did not work out,But to clarify something.I have not made money of ISG people Since I dont actively court their Business.But that is not a point of arguement,I would also like to remind you,you do not OWN Davao,So I will stay away but I dont think you can say keep out of YOUR city and YOUR board.By the way I have picked up Drink and Dinner Tabs for many other people many times.But dont make a fuss about it.I dont believe I walked out on you except for the drinks at Cafe Adriatico which was a diet coke and An iced tea for my companion and I invited you for dinner to reciprocate.Anyway consider me history

Dashing Don

09-30-06, 13:03

I've always found CL to be helpful and fair, and he does have a sense of humor too.

I read the post that supposedly started this storm in a teacup and it was a complete throwaway. Nowhere near as bad as DS makes it out to be. CL gave some off the cuff advice probably in between answering 50 emails from newbies; fielding several phone calls regarding travel and perhaps shaving. All at the same time. So I wouldn't infer anything from it.

Several times I have publicly asked CL to book me hotels and make travel arrangements and he never did, but he gladly gave FREE advice as to where to stay in Butuan and other places when I needed it. He never made a dime from me even though I wanted to throw some business his way, however small, in recognition of his being a helpful and humorous guy. So DS's comment that CL is here to make money is wrong.

Those of you who have read this board for a few years know that DS goes on a rampage every once in a while, complete with threats about his '6 4" height, 'law enforcement connections' (Yawn. Here we go with that again) and other stuff. In fact, GE was the target of DS a few years ago. DS ranted about GE for months. Anyone here knows that GE is the modicum of wisdom and moderation and that it was all nonsense.

Just waitin for this to blow over,

Don

Cebu Local

09-30-06, 14:02

I will be in Davao this October Since I will be a Guest speaker for the DATA Davao Association of Travel Agents.However I am also scouting at an investment there and may invest in a small hotel there.There are going to be direct flights from Korea and Macau to Davao starting this October.So this will be a growing nice little city.I intend to return often here
I am going to be entertained by the City Investment Office and I have specifically requested They bring me to Henny s and they have told me they have already contacted "Lani" to set this up where I shall order more then drinks But have a full Dinner Party.To put this supposed Freeloader issue to a rest .At My request This trip the people of Sonia Garcia the Regional Tourism Director has arranged for me to meet the owners of Casa Leticia which is owned by Ray and Neneng De la Paz.Rest Assured I will have DS s ENTIRE NEXT STAY CHARGED TO MY COMPANY.This should more then pay for any drinks I may have had from him.I am not asking DS any forgivness or care to join Team Davao.I will just never accept being called a Free Loader who pretends to have money.I will stay out of your way and stay away from you.But I am not staying away from Davao. I shall be reporting from time to time on my visits to this city.
Senator Thanks for nice comments.Guys just because you are nice doesnt mean you dont know how to bite.Sometimes its better to let sleeping peaceful quiet happy dogs lie

GoodEnough

10-01-06, 05:12

I spoke at some length to the Dragon Slayer last night, and he asked me to explain that he did not mean to start any sort of war or controversy over this, and said he may have reacted too strongly. But the failure of men to accept financial and moral responsiblity for the children they create is a very sore spot with him, as the mother of his son was ostracized by her entire family when she announced her pregnancy, and then she was fired from her job solely as a result of being pregnant. Without the financial and emotional support provided by DS, she would have confronted some pretty awful consequences.

As to Don's comments on my relationship to DS, it's really nobody's business except DS' and mine. We're close friends who had a misunderstanding and worked it out. That's really all anyone else needs to know.

The Slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. Men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

I understand the Slayer's point fully, as does anyone who lives or stays here for any length of time. I would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could. Guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible, and the Slayer was reacting to the posts which appear to accept the legitamacy of running away from problems created by the guys themselves.

Slayer, I hope I represented your point of view correctly. It also happens to be my own. I don't care if guys want to bareback a hundred women here. That's their business so long as the women consent. But those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin. To do anything else is to perpetuate the cycle of misery and poverty, which is not acceptable.

:D

GE

Martians

10-01-06, 05:40

GE: A site devoted to fucking semi literate hookers is not Speakers’ Corner and a soap box is out of place. Your sociological analysis is spot on but, as the Victorian ditty below shows, hardly original. Dragon Slayer does not deserve a medal though he was fortunate to have the kudos to do the right thing and play Great White Saviour. DS lives in a bubble, as do all of us. Cebu Local, living in his bubble, has been generous to this board and he has not been motivated by money. The sign of a parasite is repeat behaviour and, given Cebu Local’s offer of a freebie to DS, the obvious reaction is “Me too”.

Maybe David Icke is right and this world like my own is full of lizard like aliens. But Cebu Local is not one of them even if he does associate with people who fund pawn brokers. The Philippines remains one of the saddest and most fucked over places on earth. Take a walk around Davao’s back streets and see the young unemployed guys hanging out, like dogs waiting for biatches in heat and with noting to look forward to but banging some local hottie. Or visit the lock up past the Cathedral and see the yabba heads being sent away for 15 hard while their pregnant wives are left behind to face hell. Go down the beach at night and see the boring, condomless orgies. Pinoy guys do indeed cause a lot of misery. But so do we.

Now if some jerk off posts here that he is bare backing, chances are it is to get a rise out of someone. Some people should be above that.

She was poor but she was honest,
Victim of a rich man's whim.
He was rich and he seduced her,
And she had a child by him.
See him riding in his carriage,
See him going to the hunt,
Thinking nothing of a marriage,
Only of a piece of ****.
Now she stands in Picadilly,
Selling matches by the box.
Anyone who buys those matches
Gets a hellfire dose of pox.

PS: Cebu Local: I will be in Davao at the end of the month for about 10 days and would like you to arrange free lodging.

Santa

10-01-06, 06:15

The Slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. Men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

Guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible,

those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin.

GE

Totally agree. Thank you GE and Slayer.

Not only is it tragic for the girl, but it is also tragic for the kids. And saying "the filipinos also do it" is no excuse. If YOU bring kids into this world then YOU must take care of them.

Surfer

10-01-06, 08:18

I will be there second half of December with Chardonnay in hand.

Wander Luster

10-01-06, 08:38

Cebu Local

10-01-06, 08:51

i spoke at some length to the dragon slayer last night, and he asked me to explain that he did not mean to start any sort of war or controversy over this, and said he may have reacted too strongly. but the failure of men to accept financial and moral responsiblity for the children they create is a very sore spot with him, as the mother of his son was ostracized by her entire family when she announced her pregnancy, and then she was fired from her job solely as a result of being pregnant. without the financial and emotional support provided by ds, she would have confronted some pretty awful consequences.

as to don's comments on my relationship to ds, it's really nobody's business except ds' and mine. we're close friends who had a misunderstanding and worked it out. that's really all anyone else needs to know.

the slayer's point is that without support from the men responsible for having impregnated them, these women suffer devastating emotional and financial consequences that they should not have to face alone. men who flee this responsibility, or who plan from the outset to avoid the consequences of their behavior sicken him (as they do me) and this is what he was reacting to.

i understand the slayer's point fully, as does anyone who lives or stays here for any length of time. i would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could. guys who, for their own pleasure, refuse to use condoms, and then refuse to acknowledge any responsibility for their actions are contemptible, and the slayer was reacting to the posts which appear to accept the legitamacy of running away from problems created by the guys themselves.

slayer, i hope i represented your point of view correctly. it also happens to be my own. i don't care if guys want to bareback a hundred women here. that's their business so long as the women consent. but those who indulge in such behavior have to be willing to step up and accept the consequences, the same as they would have to do in their countries of origin. do do anything else is to perpetuate the cycle of misery and poverty, which is not acceptable.

:d

gei totally find irresponsible fathers disgusting.i have acted on this in the past.i have a a case where i had a staff divirginized then impregnated by a fellow staff.the guy refused to give child support claiming that he was not sure the child was his,he refused a patenity test claiming they were not 100% accurate,i provided her a lawyer for free to go after this asshole.he skipped town,so i helped her get a job overseas to help support her child.she is currently a well paid it at intercontinental dubai.

likewise i have provided a lawyer to a maid who was raped and impregnatedby her nigerian employer.she was the cousin of my driver and we were able to get a financial settlement and child support in exchange for dropping the case.guys who are not man enough to face up to their responsibilities are not true men .i admit i was guilty in being nuetral on giving advice on this matter.i should have spoken up for my personal conviction on this.i reacted rather strongly since i have never freeloaded knowingly.guys have no business creating kids they cannot support.

Frequent Flier

10-01-06, 14:38

I would estimate that more than half of the women working in the bars have been forced into lives of prostitution because the assholes who got them pregnant evaded their responsibilities, refused any support to the mother or child and, in most cases simply ran away, leaving the women to cope as best they could.
GE

Lets make sure that those not in the know understand that the majority of these "working" women described by GE were impregnated by their fellow countrymen, not mongers as some may think based on the subject at hand.

The less than active role that the Government takes here is just as disgusting as the mongers who visit and do the same thing. The mongers who do this are more disgusting then the locals as they know better, the men who live here were brought up and indoctrinated just like the girls to believe that they should not use protection. So I waiver to blame them on their lack of condom use, but once the girl is pregnant their behavior is unforgivable.

The Government gives no true recourse to the girls. If there is action that can be taken the girls are reluctant to do so. I have offered assistance in the past to girls to help them take action, but they refuse. They simply look at the child as a blessing that they are totally responsible for. Worse again is that, from what I understand about the law in the PI, the father and his family can at any time make claim to the baby and remove the baby from the mother to their family.

FF

GoodEnough

10-01-06, 15:40

Absolutely right and I should have clarified that point. Most of the girls get impregnated by the assholes here who promptly run away, abdicate every responsibility and then probably go and do the same thing with other girls and repeat the cycle. How many times have you guys heard some variation of: "I used to have a boyfriend who said he loved me, took my virginity, made be pregnant and then broke my heart?" That the culture here sanctions, and even reinforces such egregious behavior is bad enough, but FF is right; at least these guys have some semblance of an excuse. The foreigners who come here however, have none.

FF is also correct that the girls have little or no recourse. It takes money to retain a lawyer and even then, there are no computerized records here that would allow easy tracking of a guy who decides to bail out. Even if he could be found, the court decisions go to the highest bidder, and that would rarely be the girl. When foreign guys pull the same stunt, embassies aren't much help either, requiring in many cases, "ackowledgement of paternity" which most foreigners who run away will not provide. These girls get screwed twice; once by the guys who got them pregnant and then again by a system that's totally stacked against them.

:D

GE

Mahku

10-01-06, 17:39

I really don't know why you bothered and don't see why you feel you need to kowtow to this bully. No need to bend over backwards to explain yourself like you've been trying to do. Any moron who reads your post can see that you weren't advocating impregnating women and leaving them. Just because it's a sore point with someone doesn't excuse them from being a complete asshole.

I and others know how you've helped more people in the Philippines, China and other places than we could possibly name. And in my case and for others it was freely given without the expectation that it would lead to some business or financial gain elsewhere.

And look how on the one hand when CL PMs GoodEnough it means he "doesn't have the balls to contact me directly." But then only a day later the best Dragon Slayer can do is this sorry missive through a phone conversation with GE to the effect of "Hehe, maybe I overreacted." Not having balls is bad enough. Being a hypocrite and not having balls is off the charts pathetic. A real man would come back here and apologize. But I wouldn't expect that history to be in the making anytime soon.

GE is right that it's his own business how he gets on with the Slayer (or not). He has his own reasons for sticking up for the man, making up with him even after vicious personal attacks, making excuses for him and spinning out topics about single mothers to change the subject and deflect attention from his friend's excesses and I respect those reasons. But the rest of us have no such reasons to be bound. Also, the fact that DS constantly spills details of his friendship (or acrimony) with GE ad infinitum, ad nauseum means that it in fact IS our business whether we like it or not unless we want to do lots and lots of scrolling. So it's just a tad disingenuous to say it's ONLY between those two, especially when DS uses alleged quotes and opinions from GE to beat up on Cebu Local (and others in the past).

But what's really of interest to me and most people is this Davao thread and how it helps people coming here looking for women. Or more specifically:

*Nobody who isn't a moderator has any right to tell another member not to post here or come here. I don't care how many times they've been to Davao. I don't care that there were only 10 posts in this thread when they started posted here. I don't care how much money is in anyone's bank account or who is 6 foot 4 or who may be picked up by law enforcement. I don't care if DS says that GE's girlfriend says that my mother wears army boots. Who the hell is he to come on Jackson's board, create a rump state and start ordering people around?

*Davao is not "my town" or anyone's town just because they blow through town, pass around a few bottles of wine and fuck a few women.

*There will be opinions that differ from those who set themselves up as Lords of the Realm. If those opinions are wrong and be countered by facts then so be it. But countering by facts doesn't include such things as: "His bank account is smaller than mine." or "My nephew is coming to town to kick your ass."

My advice to those coming to Davao is the following:

*Of course RTFF, including those posts by Dragon Slayer that have excellent information. In fact we agree on 95% of things. But that other 5 can be a *****.

*As for this "Davao Team" business, by all means make friends with the ones that matter, i.e. the ones who live there like GoodEnough, Spam Hog, etc. They'll help you without expecting endless ass kissing in return. No need to bother with the other one who thinks he's God's gift to all of us.

*Most of all, join as many chat and email sites as you can. Make contact with as many women as time allows. There's something for everyone in Davao.

CL, thanks for kindnesses in the past. My advice is go to China and get some red rope treatment and forget this loser.

Sorry for the long post, but I'm here at the remote Wakatobi Dive Resort in Indonesia. There are only fat cow western women here, so I don't have much else to do when out of the water. Normal programming will resume October 6th in Jakarta.

Martians

10-01-06, 18:07

Don’t fuck with Mahku. What an articulate attack. And as it is from someone who has trod the less trodden path, it carries more weight. I will be there in a few weeks time, and I am hoping Cebu Local will pick up the tab as I am at least as deserving of a freebie as the big fella.

One slight quibble. Single mother prostitutes are an issue worth looking at and very many of them, in my book at least, are super heroes. They fuck all comers for their children and are scared shitless their children and others will find out how they turn a buck. Perverse as it is, it is “heartening” so see a mother’s love shine through like that. Many of them would have made great spouses but for the fact they were fucked over when they were young and fatally innocent.

I will be in touch with my own Club Davao. Real mongers don’t wear Prada, or polos;)

X Man

10-02-06, 12:33

10-01-04 at 11:19 #81
Juniour
Senior Member
Reports: 468 Dragon Slayer

I have just read your post and No I do not intend to ask anyone GE or whoever, how you come across – what for?

I would suggest that you go back and re-read my PM to you because you have obviously invented a few things in there, thrown in for sensationalism, in what I have claimed to have said.

The one thing you did get right was when I said that on this board, Philippines, there are many exaggerated claims passed off as factual, Yes I still maintain this. And maybe I must be one of the guys, who you refer to as being jealous of you, hmmmm poor me.

Finally, from your reaction I can only imagine I must be touching a raw nerve here because a quote from William Shakespeare’s Hamlet “ The lady doth protest too much, methinks.”

Juniour

X Man

10-02-06, 12:43

Junior was expelled from this list. Who knows why?

GoodEnough

10-02-06, 17:12

GE: A site devoted to fucking semi literate hookers is not Speakers’ Corner and a soap box is out of place. Your sociological analysis is spot on but, as the Victorian ditty below shows, hardly original.
You're right, this isn't the place and I guess in the greater scheme of things it doesn't really matter. I guess the sadness of the country is finally starting to get to me.

Harvey WB

10-03-06, 00:36

I enjoy most posts here, GE's included. I know this is a site for mongering, but I'm here for news of the Phils, Hotels, etc., and I do enjoy 99% of the personalities on here (or should I say "characters", LOL). I can ignore those posts that don't appeal to me and do. I do miss Davao, Cebu and the Phils in general, so this is my way of staying in touch, so thank you all (well, at least 99% of you).

Bilbo Baggins

10-03-06, 03:09

I guess the sadness of the country is finally starting to get to me.
This really caught my attention, so there is a downside to a great sex adventure. I am coming next year to Davao to check out the possibilities of retiring there. How realistic is it to think a person could live there and be untouched by the underside of the Philippines. The poverty, corruption and stuffups.

I am thinking of renting a place for a month while I check out the city rather than live in a hotel. I notice some of you live in gated communities how sensible is it to just rent a cheap apartment for a month outside of those? Is it better to rent when living there or to buy locally I'll be living on an Australian pension around about 38,000 pesos a month with my woman.

The $US600 a month mentioned in a previous post would be way out of my budget. I just want to live a simple life with a woman or two.

My relatives think I'm mad and should stay in Australia and find a nice 40 - 50 year old woman for company how mad is that when I have all these nice honeys promising me bliss if I show up on their doorstep in the Philippines. They tell me I'll get my head chopped off going to Mindanao but a guy got beaten almost to death at my local railway station and the houses are being broken into all the time in my neighbourhood, its not safe here either.

Any advice or suggestions would be most welcome

Surfer

10-03-06, 03:24

1. Mahku makes some good points, and his opinions do have gravitas as he has been among the top quality contributors here in recent months.

2. CL, DS and GE all have been very helpful to mongers asking questions and none of them are serial antagonists at all. While I have met none, I have zero doubt that all are likeable guys with positive vibes.

3. A long simmering personal dispute seems to have arisen which could have been better handled in private, rather than through a public forum like this one.

4. We need to self police and get the thread back on track as Jackson's patience, while Solomon like, is not infinite and the PI threads have given him more headaches than just about any other country.

5. Never got to monger during my brief stop in Davao as I was with my new GF and her family. I can say that for booking nicer hotels in Davao, the internet yields better rates than having a local call, in Visayan, and asking for local or balikbayan rate.

We stayed at Davao Insular Hotel out by the airport. Very spacious grounds with a large pool area and a pier where bancas could be hired by Hotel guests for P1,000/hour to cruise Samal Island just across the channel. HIGHLY Reccomended to do the private cruise and go for a swim off Samal in the clear water (out front of hotel is murky and swimming is discouraged according to signs posted there).

Searching the web you can get a double, including breakfast, for about $60, including the dreaded service charge & tax. Ask for room with water view. Newer building has rooms with balconies but will cost an extra $20.

Restaurants at hotel are WAY overpriced. Avoid at all costs unless others are footing the bill. Main drawback for mongers is location. Hotel taxis are a ripoff, obviously, but walk out to the main road and pay 20Pisos for the bus to town (locals pay 10) More of a place to retreat when you find a real hottie that you want to hang out with for a day or two away from the hustle and bustle of the city. Pictures below.

GoodEnough

10-03-06, 08:10

This really caught my attention, so there is a downside to a great sex adventure. I am coming next year to Davao to check out the possibilities of retiring there. How realistic is it to think a person could live there and be untouched by the underside of the Philippines. The poverty, corruption and stuffups.

I am thinking of renting a place for a month while I check out the city rather than live in a hotel. I notice some of you live in gated communities how sensible is it to just rent a cheap apartment for a month outside of those? Is it better to rent when living there or to buy locally I'll be living on an Australian pension around about 38,000 pesos a month with my woman.

The $US600 a month mentioned in a previous post would be way out of my budget. I just want to live a simple life with a woman or two.

My relatives think I'm mad and should stay in Australia and find a nice 40 - 50 year old woman for company how mad is that when I have all these nice honeys promising me bliss if I show up on their doorstep in the Philippines. They tell me I'll get my head chopped off going to Mindanao but a guy got beaten almost to death at my local railway station and the houses are being broken into all the time in my neighbourhood, its not safe here either.

Any advice or suggestions would be most welcome
I think there's a downside to living in any third world country for a length of time. This has not at all to do with Davao and everything to do with the general hopelessness of the Philippines. It's difficult not to be touched by it, and it's impossible not to be aware of it, no matter how much you like most of the attributes of your life here. I guess I first became aware of this while living and working in African countries, in which you get a sense very quickly that things are just never going to get any better. It's much the same here, even though it's possible to ignore that fact of life most of the time.

As to the cost of living in your pension, it's certainly possible here in Davao. There are houses available, in decent neighborhoods, for as little as $100 a month. If you buy food in the local markets here, it's quite inexpensive, especially if you eat the local cuisine. Local transportation, including taxis, is also quite inexpensive, as are clothes made locally.You should have no problem living well within your pension and living reasonably well. Davao is about 40% less expensive than Manila and about 20% less expensive than Cebu, so it might be a city at which you should look carefully.

There are some fairly inexpensive apartments here, though most of the rentals are houses. It's also possible to get some excellent monthly rates at inexpensive hotels, which is an alternative you might want to consider.

As I said before, as have many others, Mindanao, at least in the cities where you would live, is totally safe. Davao, Zamboanga, and Cagayan de Oro are all safer than Manila and I've never heard of any violence directed at any foreigner in any of these places. I would estimata that at least 35% of the expats living in Davao are Australian, and there are lots of Aussies living here on fixed pensions.

Let me know in a PM if you've got any questions about the prices of specific goods or services.

The Surfer is absolutely correct about the Insular, which used to be the premier hotel in Davao. It's got gorgeous grounds, but the problem is that it has not been well-maintained, so it's reputation was rapidly eclipsed by the Marco Polo.

:D

GE

Cebu Local

10-03-06, 23:24

My former staff is currently a manager for one of the top hotels in the city with a salary of 35,000 pesos a month.On that salary She has a 2 bedroom apartment in the city,a live in maid and a part time laundry woman.Eats out daily eating only Breakfast at home,Goes shopping for clothes 2-3 times a week and goes out at night 3-4 times a week.Yes you can live well for 38,000 pesos a month.Some random costs Lunch Buffet or Dinner Buffet at a mid range restaurant 100 pesos or 2$,All the beer and wine you can drink at the Venue a popular Drinking spot 140 pesos or roughly 3$.FS at a massage parlor 1000 pesos or 20$.T shirt at SM 130 pesos or 2.5$.One month salary of live in maid 1500 pesos or 30$.Fine dining meal at French restaurant 400-500 pesos 8-10$.

This is why I like this city and will be setting up another business here soon.I think Davao is a great city to retire in,Good luck

Bilbo Baggins

10-04-06, 03:15

Thanks GE and CL for the information, we all would be flying blind without the help from you guys.

GE I will look into the monthly rate at an inexpensive hotel it sounds like a good idea and better than signing some lease. I will PM you on things when I get closer to April thanks for the offer. I have already booked my trip just got to wait it out.

CL, great breakdown now I have a good idea of what I can afford to do I just wonder if your former staff manages to save any money on that life style as well.

I don't wish to be rude but I think you should have kept this a secret I'd hate to show up and find all the Aussies have drunk the place dry. (LOL)

"All the beer and wine you can drink at the Venue a popular Drinking spot 140 pesos or roughly 3$"

38,000 will be my base income and I hope to make some pocket money on a little business I set up back home before I retire there to pay for treats like trips to Boracay etc.

Cebu Local

10-04-06, 22:54

Unfortunately She doesnt save anything.But for what it its worth here is her breakdown.Rent 4,000 pesos.Eating out daily 5,000,-6,000 pesos,Maids Salary 1,500 pesos,Laundry woman 500 pesos,Going out drinks cost 2,000 -2,500 pesos,Clothes 5,000 pesos.Groceries 3,000 -5,000 .The rest misc. expenses
Regarding the Drinking Promo at the Venue,I think there is a time limit,Since its like from 5PM to 9PM.Cheers

Midas Touch

10-05-06, 09:01

X Man

10-05-06, 15:07

She spends more money on food than rent? Was that a typo?

Maybe I'm a simple guy but I would have trouble spending that much money on food in the Philippines. Of course if you are taking a local tribe out for the slow roast lechon, I guess it's possible.

Unfortunately She doesnt save anything.But for what it its worth here is her breakdown.Rent 4,000 pesos.Eating out daily 5,000,-6,000 pesos,Maids Salary 1,500 pesos,Laundry woman 500 pesos,Going out drinks cost 2,000 -2,500 pesos,Clothes 5,000 pesos.Groceries 3,000 -5,000 .The rest misc. expenses
Regarding the Drinking Promo at the Venue,I think there is a time limit,Since its like from 5PM to 9PM.Cheers

Cebu Local

10-05-06, 22:59

She spends more money on food than rent? Was that a typo?

Maybe I'm a simple guy but I would have trouble spending that much money on food in the Philippines. Of course if you are taking a local tribe out for the slow roast lechon, I guess it's possible.Remember She is only eating Breakfast at home,So the restaurant meals are costing her around 80-120 pesos per meal 2 times a day.so 30 times 2 times 100 pesos is about 6000 pesos.Remember She is a Manila girl who used to live and work in Makati,So she is not a simple provincial girl but a well travelled fashionista.Tiger 1 has met her in HK and GE has met her during the Asean Tourism Forum.They will confirm she is into eating well.apartment is about 70-80 square meters.

On a personal note,I will be in Davao next week to be a guest speaker for the Davao Association of Travel Agents and meet with the owners of the hotel I MAY invest in.GE Thanks for the endorsement to the owners relatives.If anybody is interested in further information on Davao Hotels Drop me a line Cheers

GoodEnough

10-06-06, 02:18

GoodEnough and other Davao guys,

I will be arriving in Davao this coming Oct. 18 Wed.

I may be checking in Casa Leticia or other similar hotel.

I plan to monger and also scuba dive. I wonder if we could get together for a drink, ill treat you. We could also go bar hopping?

I also need a dive buddy, would you be available? Pls. pm me your contact tel no. or email me at: [Email address deleted by Admin]

So I can get in touch with you when I am there.

Thanks

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I tried to PM you with the information, but got a message that you have chosen not to receive PMs, and email addresses are not permitted on the forum, so I don't have yours, so I don't know how to establish personal contact.

Three of the dive shops here arrange dives just about every week end. Wind and Wave and Carabao dive shops have their own boats, and weather permitting, typically organize dives for Saturdays. Pro Dive rents available boats and it organizes both Saturday and Sunday dives. If you don't have your own gear, any of them will rent you whatever you need. Wind and Wave is the only shop that fills nitrox tanks if you're interested in a nitrox dive. Carabao is the dive shop from which I buy all my gear. The phone number is: 082-300-1092 and you can ask to speak to either Ray or Dick.

I may be in Singapore the week end that you plan to be here, but if not, I will probably be diving that Saturday or Sunday.

:D

GE

Midas Touch

10-06-06, 08:56

Cebu Local

10-06-06, 23:33

Midas Touch

10-07-06, 02:44

Restaurants Try Claudes at the Paseo the Habana Compond at 29 Rizal street,It s run by Chef Claude and his daughter Celina.The onion soup and Cheese plate are supposed to be good,Beside is Henny s place called De Bonte Koe.It is famous for steaks and Ribs.

Meeting Normal Girls at Drinking Spots.

Try the following The Venue located at Quirino avenue or Matina Town Square located along Macarthur Highway.

Have a great time in Davao CityThanks so much Cebu Local, you have given me other options to explore.

I'll visit the places you mentioned. If you happen to be in Davao by that time I'm there, pls. Give me a call so we can get together. I'll buy you a couple rounds of beer and pulutan. I'm a pinoy balikbayan. Last June 2006, I was in Cebu for 4 days. I had good luck in Jaguar KTV, a pretty girl joining me in bed at Eddie's Hotel. I liked Harem too, I think this place has the best young and pretty girls in Cebu. I almost got a gorgeous girl whom I vip roomed in Harem join me in the hotel, but I just run out of time, I had to go back to manila. Thanks once again.

By the way when it comes to Quezon City night life, that is my territory and I practically know all the places there, since I have a condo along west ave, qc.

GoodEnough

10-07-06, 03:04

GoodEnough,

Thanks for your response.

I spoke to Dick of Carabao and inquired about the diving.

I might dive Paradise Island, since it will be a thursday diving and the boats may not be available.

Dick quoted me P750 for one dive, equipment included.

I've been researching the internet about Davao.

I'd like to ask you some information you may know about the following places ...

1. How is the Royal Manadaya Hotel compared to casa leticia - price? is it any good? What other hotel can you suggest as nice but cheaper than Casa Leticia?

2. Are these places good to meet gorgeous women for sex ... any other bar suggestions?

Shangrila KTV (Dakudao Ave near the cor. of R. Castillo)
Karokkan KTV (Victoria Plaza Compound)
Frankie's KTV (Nova Tierra)
Fountain Place -ledge bar (Dacudao Avenue in Agdao, across Shangrila KTV)
Danny's Bar (back of ponciano fruitstand..in madraso compound)
Option: Take taxi to Cabaguio St, options to meet women, where?

3. Are these restaurants good? Can you recommend some other restaurants?

AH FAT Restaurant (Victoria Plaza Compound) maybe the best in Davao, try their crabs

Jack's Ridge Rest. - another good place for seafoods, nice ambiance
Picobello Rest. - (5th flr , Gaisano Southmall) best rest. for pizza

I'll be in Davao on Oct. 18, early evening time, i hope to meet you.

Just in case you are still in Davao, you can call me so that we can meet.

Can you show me Ground Zero, Hotlegs, Henny's, etc.? Thanks.

My cell number in the Philippines and Davao will be Tel. 0915-784-4590

Midas asks a lot of questions, and, since the answers may be of interest to others, I'll try to respond in the hopes that this will not get bounced because of the "No Crosstalk Rule."

1. Royal Mandaya vs. Casa Leticia - In my opinion Casa Leticia is far superior. The Royal Mandaya is a little bit far from the center of town and, mroe importantly, has been poorly maintained. It's quite a large hotel, and it has a casino, but it's not much of a place. Rather seedy and the service is poor.

2. Diving - I'm going to dive off Paradise Island tomorrow. It's an easy beach dive, and, though you won't see as much as you would on a boat dive off of Talakud Island, it's not bad. You can get to Paradise on a boat from a well-known departure dock to which any taxi driver can take you and it's about a ten minute ride. I think there's a dive shop from which you can purchase air, or you can rent a tank or two from Dick and take it on the boat. That's what I'm going to do. The only problem with Paradise is that there can be a reasonably strong current about 30 meters off the beach. The last time I dove there, the current carried me about 200 meters beyond Paradise and it I had to go back down under the current to get back. This might not happen all of the time however,

3. Gorgeous women for sex - In the years that I've lived here, I think I've been to two KTVs, so I cannot help you much there. All of the KTVs I'm sure, have women available, as do the two pick-up bars--Moonlight and Roman Plaza--on Cabaggio. Probably the best of the p4p bars is Hot Legs II on San Pedro St though some prefer Hot Legs I directly across the street from the Royal Mandaya. There are lots and lots of p4p places on and around Rizal St. as well and you will have no problem finding a dozen of them.

4. Restaurants - Unfortunately, there are no really good Chinese Restaurants in Davao. Ah Fat's is just okay, as is the much more expensive Chinese restaurant in the Marco Polo. Jack's Ridge is local food which I do not like, and I never eat there. It's very cheap however, but if you do not have a car, it's quite far to go in a taxi. Picobello for Italian food is fair, but I think La Toscana on Quirino is much better and it's less expensive. De Bonte Koe (Henny's) and Cafe de Ville (Claude's) are both on Rizal St. and only about 20 meters from each other. Claude serves very standard French bistro food, which would be average by Parisian standards but passes for haute cuisine here. It's a bit overpriced, but not outrageous, and Claude has without doubt, the best selection of wine of any restaurant in Davao. Henny's has the best steaks and other beef in town, a much nicer atmosphere, and he's just opened a Spanish restaurant across the courtyard, called El Toro. It's where we eat most of the time. Henny is also the most highly qualified dive instructor in Davao, and perhaps the Philippines, and is a great one to talk to about dive spots here.

I may be in Davao on the 18th but there's a chance I'll have to go to Singapore on the 17th. I will let you know. Don't worry about coming here with a long list of places to go for various purposes. If you go to Henny's and ask him your questions, I'm sure he would be glad to help, as would any of the expats who hang out there, as many of us do.

Hope this answers at least most of the questions.

:D

GE

Midas Touch

10-07-06, 07:38

GoodEnough,

Thanks again for answering my questions and supplying great info on Davao. I have taken notes and will probably do a lot of bar hopping in Davao to cover as much as possible.

Harvey WB

10-07-06, 12:31

Yes, skip it. Main areas look good but hallways leading to the rooms and the rooms themselves are inferior to Apo View (poorly maintained, a little dirty).

X Man

10-07-06, 14:47

Midas asked for a cheaper hotel. GE has, in the past, suggested Galleria. I was shown a great room there, made a reservation, and went back the next day...only to be shown a room that had a strong mildew smell. Give it a try. They have a small pool in their courtyard.

Jack's Ridge is indeed a nice place to create a nice mood. WHen I took a taxi there, with a date, we passed by a place that looked interesting. I thought, hey, I should go there sometime...looks like fun. I asked my date, what's that. The answer was..."Matina Town Square". I've never been there. Maybe CL or GE could give more details.

X

X Man

10-07-06, 15:15

GE,

Can you give a rough description of where Paradise Island is? I don't have a map in front of me (not yet) but I'm assuming it's near Samal Island.

If I'm not mistaken, the nearest beach on Samal Island (5-10 min across the channel from Davao city) is Paradise beach.

It's been a while, so maybe I'm mistaken.

I've attached a picture taken at that beach. Behind the girl you can see a concrete dock. At first, I thought these were a horrible addition to the beach. But they are necessary, because the current is quite strong. While snorkeling, I learned quite quickly to walk upstream on the beach enter the water and then swim along the current until I reached the other end...where the next concrete dock is. Then walk back to where the girl was waiting...(at one point, her and the "chaperone" were being entertained by the local boys). From where I was, I could see several of these concrete docks.

X

GoodEnough

10-07-06, 15:49

I'm not sure, but I don't think that Paradise is part of Samal. It's a small island that's separate. At least, I think so, but I don't have a map in front of me so I cannot be sure. Also the boats that go to Samal leave from Santa Ana wharf, whereas Paradise has its own departure area.

Matina Town Square, the one time I was there, looks to me like it's inhabited mainly by young adolescents, too young to interest most of the guys here. It looked to me that it was strictly a girlfriend-boyfriend kind of place. A better alternative might be the Auto Mall, which I just discovered recently although its been here for a while. It's a concrete corridor, blocked to traffic, with about 15 or 20 bars, with outdoor dining, lining both sides of the corridor. On Saturday nights, it's jammed with couples and with singles. It's probably a great place to pick up young (but legal) normal girls. I don't think the pros go anywhere near it.

:D

GE

Harvey WB

10-07-06, 22:58

It's part of Samal Island. You take a taxi towards the airport to catch a boat to it. It is a 5 minute boat ride (P15? fare) and a small fee to enter the resort, plus a "corkage fee" for any beverages you bring. They sell food and drink there and there are a few rooms to rent overnight (P1,000 for an AC room in 2003). Been there a few times, I was the sponsor of the trip, maybe 10 people each time, no big cost, good time. My friend said to arrive at 6 AM and leave at 10:30 AM, before it got "too hot" and then we went to church up near Jack's Ridge.

Cebu Local

10-07-06, 23:48

X Man

10-08-06, 04:24

Harvey is correct. The beach I mentioned earlier is in fact named Paradise Island. There is some reasonable snorkeling there, but this is probably not a good place for diving.

The current is very strong there, as I said earlier. Looking at my map, Paradise Island (the beach area on Samal Island) is at the narrowest point in the Pakiputan Strait which is between Davao city and Samal island.

This seems to be where the beach resorts are clustered.

Has anyone been to the beaches north of this area? Holy Cross / Budyong / Villarica?

I can't find any Paradise Island (the island) anywhere in the vicinity of Samal Island.

I'd like to explore Samal a bit...I just wish I had more time and the appropriate "tour guide".

Thank you for the info about Matina. Where is the Auto Mall?

Looks like my flight has been confirmed. MLA on Dec 18, Cebu Bohol for Christmas, Davao for New Year's. GE, CL, I'll give you a call and maybe we can hook up.

X

Spam Hog

10-08-06, 06:58

Cebu Local

10-08-06, 08:16

John Dust

10-08-06, 09:50

As to the cost of living in your pension, it's certainly possible here in Davao. There are houses available, in decent neighborhoods, for as little as $100 a month...

As I said before, as have many others, Mindanao, at least in the cities where you would live, is totally safe. Davao, Zamboanga, and Cagayan de Oro are all safer than Manila and I've never heard of any violence directed at any foreigner in any of these places...

GELike Bilbo I've been scouting out an overseas retirement home. I hate the snow. I've made a few trips to Indonesia, but have yet to visit the Philippines.

One item not mentioned that would certainly affect any retiree is the matter of medical insurance and the need for decent local health services. How does this pan out in Davao or the Philippines in general?

I'm sure that one can rent an apartment for $100 per month, but what kind of security is one afforded? Is CDO or Davao large enough to have a gated middle class community. Perhaps this question is better asked elsewhere, but this forum has been very informative.

Regards,

GoodEnough

10-08-06, 10:55

Paradise Island is indeed located on Samal Island, this place is one of the closest points between Davao (SASA wharf) and Samal Island. They have their own ferry boat that dock near Sasa Wharf, Paradise is crowded on the weekends. You may want to explore Samal Island by going to the main wharf
Sta Ana and trying to get a ferry boat to Pena Plata, as of six months ago the ferry was running sporadically. Pena Plata is more centrally located for visiting some of the Samal attrachtions like the falls and the Hiking trails. HOWEVE A MAJOR WORD OF CAUTION!!!!!

There are FEW modes of transportation on Samal. NO TAXI'S and only a few Jeepneys that stay close to the central wharf. Your best bet is to hire a trisykad and prepare for the bumpy, dusty ride.

My suggestion is that if you want a bit more privacy is to checkout Telikud Island. They did have a ferry boat but it was very erratic. Best way to get there by private Banca (Probably charge you P3500) Tell the capt you want to spend the day at Isla Rita this is a small resort facing Samal. Great place to take that special girl (and her family) if you have to, all you Macho guys can try swimming the channel between the two islands or snorkeling which is great just twenty meters offshore. Some old Jap gun turret ruins on the south side of Telikud are fun to explore.

I stand corrected. Paraside is indeed part of Samal, more or less directly East of the Grand Regal Hotel. I went diving there today, and it was a nice, long, if somewhat shallow dive. There were abundant small tropicals and some nice coral formations, none of them deeper than 12-13 meters. There's a new diving area at the head of the pier as you dock, and you can store all of your gear there until you're ready to use it. The boat ride to the island is Php10 and the resort area was fairly full of large family groups with very few expats.

As X Man said, there can be strong current, particularly at low tide. However, the current diminishes as the tide rises between noon and 2 in the afternoon. This is the best time to dive or snorkel. I arrived at Paradise at about 11:30 and there was a large sign warning of the strong current. We waited ot dive until about 2 and the current was very mild and no problem at all.

The price of renting a private banca is now Php5,000-Php5,500 to go to Telikud, but most bancas accmmodate 15-20 people so if you can find people with whom to share the cost of the day it's not too bad. The diving off of Telikud is nicer, and much deeper than Paradise. There's a lovely spot called Dizon Wall which is a large, deep coral formation that starts at about 10 meters and goes down to about 30. We've seen leopard rays there and a large variety of eels and sea snakes, in addition to the usual assortment of fish. The Coral Garden, which is also just off Telikud, used to be wonderful, but has been so decimated by dynamite fishing and cyanide fishing, that large portions of it have been reduced to rubble.

As Spam Hog said, there's little transportation. However, you can take your car/bike across on a barge and riding the motorcycle through the interior of the island is quite a lot of fun. Those who do so will become instant tourist attractions as those who live in the interior villages do not get to see many foreigners.

The Auto Mall is located on the same street as the Venue. If you comtinue up that street away from the Marco Polo, you will run into crowds of people and long lines of cars waiting to park. Just follow the crowds and you will find it if you're looking during the week end.

:D

GE

Cebu Local

10-11-06, 14:48

Basically I had a short business trip to Davao to be a guest speaker for some Davao travel agents and look at some small hotels to invest in.So I did not get a chance to monger much,I visited Hot Legs 1 and Sad to say,IMHO the girls looked like recycled Gaisano sales girls.mostly 5-6 s.This is the one located infront of the Grand Regal Hotel.Following GE s advice,I went to Hot Legs 2 on San Pedro street and I am happy to say It was like night and day Solid 7 s and 8 s.Yes they do a great candle dance,though the area around Hot Legs 2 looks seedier then that of Hot Legs 1.
Regarding Restaurants,The travel agents brought me to Ah Fat for a great seafood lunch.Yes this is one of the best Chinese food in davao.If you like Native Sukat Sili at the venue was also great.I also had a great meal at Claudes,But Henny was not in.They do French bistro type food which is a novelty in Davao.Until my next trip to Davao,I dont have much to report for a short trip.But I may have picked up some freebie leads which I will pursue next trip.

Spam Hog

10-12-06, 06:54

Like Bilbo I've been scouting out an overseas retirement home. I hate the snow. I've made a few trips to Indonesia, but have yet to visit the Philippines.

One item not mentioned that would certainly affect any retiree is the matter of medical insurance and the need for decent local health services. How does this pan out in Davao or the Philippines in general?

I'm sure that one can rent an apartment for $100 per month, but what kind of security is one afforded? Is CDO or Davao large enough to have a gated middle class community. Perhaps this question is better asked elsewhere, but this forum has been very informative.

Regards,

I gave a breakdown of living expenses in Davao, CDO and Cebu for some of the brethern under "General Info".

Medical expenses is one thing I left out but it is an important thing for us "senior citizens" to consider. Frankly you will find the medical expenses here cheaper than the US by far, HOWEVER, you will find the qwuality somewhat...well...lacking. I was hospitalized in Davao for kidneys stones about four years ago. I think for treatment and all xrays and an overnight stay was US 600. The best hospital in the PI is St Lukes in Manila.

There is a US Military hospital somewhere near Subic, got to be retired US Govt and Military to be treated there.

If you marry a FIlipina she can put you on "Phil health" as her dependant, but most things here are so cheap I usually just pay cash for it. Dentitstry is VERY in expensive like 10 bux to have a tooth pulled.

Good luck.

Spamhog

GoodEnough

10-12-06, 13:42

Davao has three large gated communities that are solidly upper middle class and extremely safe. They're also probably the most secure places to live in the city. However, there are lots of other choices, all of them less expensive and also safe.

I think, and it's just a personal opinion, that the quality of medical care is very sub standard, though it's cheap and there are lots of doctors and lots of hospitals. In April, I developed a severe bone infection in my foot, was dissatisfied with the treatment I received in Davao, and went to the famous St. Lukes in Manila where the diagnostic treatment was no better. Finally, after being incapacitated for about six weeks, I went to Singapore, where it took a Mayo Clinic-trained orthopedic surgeon about ten minutes to diagnose the infection, and a Harvard-trained infectious disease specialist prescribed perfect treatment, though I did have to remain in country for almost a month until the doctors were satisfied that it was all under control. Not only did the Singapore hospital readily accept my US insurance, but the hospital itself was state-of-the-art. There's simply no comparison. US health insurance is not accepted in Davao, which, as Spam Hog said, is not a problem, since it's also so cheap you can pay in cash and then get reimbursed by your insurance company.

Strangely, the quality of dentistry in Davao is excellent. There are lots of dentists who have gotten part of their graduate training in the US, Australia or the UK, excellent equipment, and a standard that's at least the equivalent of the United States. I just had four caps re-done for less than $250, and my wife just had an impacted wisdom tooth removed, ten cavities treated, and her teeth cleaned for $120, and this is one of the most expensive (and one of the best) dentists in Davao. Again, they don't take US insurance, but I do get reimbursed by my US-based insurance company.

:D

GE

X Man

10-12-06, 14:24

Mahku

10-12-06, 20:03

There's a dentist (actually a dentist husband and wife) that I've been going to in Cebu for the past couple of years. They're also recommended in one of the larger expat online forums. I'm not sure if I can post their contact info here, so PM me for details (soon since I'm disappearing onto a dive boat in Fiji for a week)

Harvey WB

10-12-06, 23:58

Clothes are actually cheaper in HK in many instances. One of the front desk gals at Marriott (my favorite) would travel with her sister 2X a year to HK to buy stock to resell in RP, avoiding duty. If you go to Giordano in HK and also in Cebu, prices are way cheaper in HK.

I did find "no name" cargo shorts/pants in SM Cebu that were quite cheap, P297 was the cheapest, I think. Also attended San Carlos City's Fiesta in 2000 and my friend negotiated a good price from some vendors on clothes. Interesting to watch her bargain.

HK is also the place to have suits made, have had 3 made there and a couple of dozen dress shirts. I hope next trip we can go US/HK/RP an spend a few days there.

Martians

10-13-06, 00:23

Harvey,

The suits I got made in HK were good. However, a better idea is often to get a good tailor and get him to alter top of the range off the rack gear you buy. That way, you are guaranteeed quality and you have a good idea of what you see is what you get.

Spam Hog

10-13-06, 06:16

Thanks for the med update GE.

Since I need a tooth capped, time is a factor. Since I arrive in MLA and depart from MLA this is my best option.

BTW, I got a good pair of bifocal lens glasses made in Davao, which I'm wearing at this moment. The optometrist was recommended by a friend of GE that I met at Bonte de Koe. I suppose you could do this in Manila or Cebu as well.

I regularly visit the Philippines. If you are coming from a relatively expensive developed coutry (as I am) you can save money on clothes, glasses and rum. Rum tastes a bit like cough syrup, but old drunkards like me don't mind so much.

I suppose a tailored suit would come cheap too, but it's been a long time since I had to wear one of those.

X

X MAN; I go to two different dentists here, one is excellent, just had some detal done on Mrs spamhog (Braces) he yanked one for me also. Have another female dentist that is Very good and has several "foreigner" patients.
Both of them are located VERY close to Robinsons at Osmena circle. Let me know if your interested and I'll give you more, directions number etc. via private email.

SUITS:

You can have relatively cheap clothing made in Davao. Very close to APO Hotel there is an excellent tailor (flaming faggot too but who cares) very large shop and a variety of Materials, including pin stripes he specializes in Barongs for your wedding but he produces a fairly nice western style suit, pants etc. Cant remember his name but come out of Apo main entrance, hang a left and another left, go three/four doors down and the guys shop is on the left fairly, classy place. Directly across the street from his shop is another Byot (Bamba Limon)'s shop, this flamer does ladies wedding gowns.

Recently checked out the suits when in Hong Kong last week, decided the Indian tailors there wanted more than the Indian Tailors in Bangkok. Two years ago the Indians who run a shop in front of the Ambassador Hotel had a special on for Two (2) western made suits plus a collared shirt for $199 US. They did a great job too.

Regards Spamhog

GoodEnough

10-13-06, 13:59

I think the tailor about which Spam Hog is speaking is Chardin. The place is excellent, and we've had some stuff made there. The quality was outstanding and the selection of cloth was broad. This is one of the most expensive tailor shops in Davao, but it's got one of the largest selections in town.

Cebu Local

10-15-06, 00:55

Spam Hog

10-15-06, 09:06

With the start of the regular flights between Davao and Korea,Hong Kong and Davao and Macao and Davao,I believe the city is going to have finally begun to realize its full potential.I am currently hosting a Davao Delegation of Travel people on a tour around Manila,Cavite and Laguna.I think that exchanges are very important for understanding.
Bobby Teo the Assistant City Administrator of Davao told me though of some stories of how Mayor Duterte wants foriegners to behave in his city.A Korean beat up a caddy,then left.The caddy reported the incident to Mayor Duterte and Mayor Duterte proceeded to the Korean s Hotel and had him dragged from his room and Mayor Duterte beat the crap out of the Korean.In a similiar incident a Korean hit his 10 year old son in the face at the golf course with a golf club.When he heard about it,Mayor Duterte Had the Korean picked up and gave him 3-4 strokes with a 9 iron before having him deported.He explained that while Mayor Duterte protects Foriegners He expects them to behave in his city.

Things are looking up in Davao though,that I have decided to invest in a small hotel in the city.Small world though,The owner s close relative works with GE.I guess I will be going to Davao regularly with this developments.It is laid back compared to my former home Cebu,Since while I still have businesses there,I have relocated to Manila since I go to China monthly now and the connections are better there to China.combining that with an ambitous Chinese fiance I found Cebu becoming too small for me not with investments all over the PI and increasingly China.Her Father my Future Father in law a middle level official in the Chinese Goverment arranged for me to become the GSA of one of the Chinese Carriers that will fly between Greater China and Clark.From there He has opened a whole lot of future deals in AirFreight,Tours etc.The "connections"really help.He used to be in Shanghai but has now been transfered to Guangdong province.Anyway enough story telling But things are looking up for Davao,Visit it soon before it changes too much.

I'm glad that commerce in Davao has so many prospects and I think the international flights will certainly help. I know "security" and safety is so much an issue to investors but to those of us who have lived or visited there it really is a non issue.

Of course Duterte is the prime reason for it, he has stated time and again he will not tolerate foriegners or legitimate business men being hassled in any way. However, it seems many try to take advantage of this priveledge.

Regarding the recent examples by Koreans I'm sorry to say my fellow Americans are the worst, here are some of the worst cases to my recollection:

The much talked about " David Meiring" incident a few years back, this con man who ran phony treasure schemes blew himself up in a Davao Hotel and lost his leg. He hired some shady characters to pose as FBI agents and hustle him out of the Phils. Hizzoner went nuts over this and tried to have him extradited back from Texas where the guy was living under and assumed name.

The two brain trust "black Muslims" from Chicago who came to town much touting their aide and assistance to MILF militants and esposing their bomb making skills. These Idiots displaying some un muslim like conduct, got into a row in a Davao bar and threatened the owner, a friend of Hizzoner. Im suprised they only got deported rather than a 55 gal drum at the bottom of Davao Gulf.

The dumb ass who chartered a private plane to fly him and his Filipina wife out of the country with more than a million bucks in counterfeit US treasury notes in a plastic gaisano shopping bag.

The list goes on but you get the idea, when in Davao behave, pay your bar bills, dont beat on the working girls or slap your wife around and if you turn combative while drinking stay in your room and pass out.

Regards to all

Spamhog

GoodEnough

10-16-06, 01:28

I received this one today and thought some of you guys might be interested. It's funny how this guy (whom I have never met) has better things to do than hang around a sex board, yet takes the time to write quite a lengthy, somewhat detailed PM. Wonder what his motivation was:

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Kissing Ass and Hype

Hey buddy , just came back to the board , since my August post that is. Not like you , I have better things to do than hang around a sex forum.

Man you kiss ass too much. You are also too much full of hype and bullshit. Please talk frankly and truthfully. You are doing a DIS-SERVICE to all and sundry.

Why you keep kissing ass and keep passing off hype for fact amuses me.

For sure , you do not have my respect , cause of your ass licking ways.

You will be pleased to know that I will tried hard not to read any more of your dribble and your ass licking or your 'leader' (the owner of the ass you kiss) ones on the Davao Board. But I admit it will be hard cause you and your leader are an amusing act.

Why do you kiss ass and feel the need to pass off hype for fact ?

I feel sorry for you , goodbye , I will not bother reading your condescending reply.

Get some balls and start being independent , stop kissing ass and please stop all this hype , you are doing a dis-service to yourself and to all those who read it. You might fool some , but you do not fool me ..... J

Khun Larry

10-16-06, 06:43

I received this one today and thought some of you guys might be interested.

Sounds like this man is downright irked about something.

Bilbo Baggins

10-16-06, 08:54

You don't deserve that kind of commentary.

I have always found you informative.

Cebu Local

10-16-06, 23:12

Obviously the person does not know you,Defenitely a Strange PM.Perhaps the guy cannot distinguish between speaking up for your friends and ass licking.

Rubio Tonto

10-18-06, 12:11

I can't conceive of how sad the lurker's lives must be for them to criticize regular contributors to the boards. Contributors who provide much useful information and entertainment for us lurkers who haven't had the chance to make it down to Davao for any length of time.

Cebu Local

10-18-06, 18:26

GE is a real treasure to the Davao Board.His posts have always have been informative and well thought out.His posts lead me to explore Davao and eventually set up some operations there.Even though I will never be a member of Team Davao,I will continue to get more involved and established in this Charming City.But I will continue to stay out of the way of the other guy.

Starting Later this year Air Macau will be flying Koreans into Davao.The effect of this influx might be rowdy noisy Koreans at the Drinking Spots.But Like Mayor Duterte says,He will protect the foriegner But We have to behave in his city.Expect Duterte kicking Korean Ass soon.Bobby Teo the head of the Davao City Investment office was in my Makati office today.Davao will have a Airport Microtel as its Airport hotel.He gave me the usual spiel of what a great place Davao is to invest in.But He was preaching to the converted

He and his wife will be my partners for a small travel related business,We will duplicate the Pasalubong center you see beside the airport in Mactan,Cebu on a smaller scale in Davao.I think Filipinos would be willing to pay a little more for one stop present shopping beside the airport.

On a personal note I am working on a possibile freebie who currently works in sales for one of the hotels here.But still weighing the options of that compared to a paybie.She appeares clingy,Will decide next trip

Surfer

10-18-06, 20:32

Note to GE: Because of the lack of vetting on this site and the fact that anything to do with sex attracts an undesireable element, EVERY real contributor here has had at least one lowlife scum (who is envious) flame him. Don't let one bad apple spoil the barrel! You have WAY more friends than enemies on this board, whereas your antagonist likely has no friends at all. Just delete his PMs unread or forward them to Jackson.

I urge you NOT to let the ranting of an illiterate octagenarian (read: old fart) drive you off the board. DS was not deterred by his antagonist, nor will I let my cyberstalker stop me from sharing with the community (he may lay low for awhile now-read fight club if interested why).

While I wrote a report on Davao from my first visit back in 1994, I did not post it here (not sure Atta had even started this site back them). You and DS certainly deserve the credit (and the condemnation LOL!) for putting Davao on the ISG! I respectfully request that you keep posting Sir, as if the losers drive the contrubtors away there will be nothing left worth reading here.

IMHO the arrival of the Koreans (influx of Japanese will be next) will cause an increase in prices, but also an increase in mongering options. Such is progress.

CL: Good luck with your venture at Davao Airport. People WILL pay for convenience (of shopping at the airport); how do you think Changi pays its operating costs (it is NOT just from landing fees or passenger service charges!)?

Cebu Local

10-19-06, 02:25

Martians

10-19-06, 07:16

Dragon Slayer: If I treat a wench to a sandwich (= free + food), does that count? Or are all three needed? Also, how does one convince a lady one is rich, and why should one? Also, should one chase hungry gold diggers looking for freebies? If there were 100 rich winos at this gig, how many wenches could be expected?

Would a better poliocy be to drift around the malls and Rizal St and look for a nice cuties. (poor but honest?). There are some real stunning waitresses in in cheap cafes in Davao, jobs being at a premium.

Also, why sohuld Davao angels wtih Apo-ian racks have to resort to yahoo chat or prawn sandwich freebies?

On a side note: I was looking at the latest football rankings. England is in fifth place but the Philippines is wayyyyyy down near the bottom with such stalwarts as the Gilbert & Ellis Islands. Are Davao chicks passionate about anything expect freebies and rich men, both of which strike me as boring.

Martians

ps: our space ship should land in Davao and CDO in the next 10 days. Enquiring aliens need to know. We do not value wine or polite chit chat on Mars. We like sexy babes who cut to the chase and are loyal to their man. We also like Jack's Ridge, except for the mosquitoes.

Spam Hog

10-19-06, 12:30

I certainly hope GE is not driven away but something so ludicrous as an off color PM from a moron. There have been a few idiots and detractors on these boards and the best policy is to ignore them and laugh at them for when it is all said and done what can they do? Nothing, what are they to our individual lives? Nothing but a joke. PM threatening messages to somebody, how impotent and utterly pathetic! Of course that is what happens when your stuck in your musty cramped room in your smelly low rent apartment, wishing to hell you could be in the PI banging lovely ladies instead of getting ready for the night shift in your janitorial duties and embittered in your lot in life.

On a brighter side I know of a lot of Koreans already in Davao, they have their own clubs, night clubs and KTV's etc, just like the Japanese, (Matina) so it is doubtfull they will mix all that much. Most of them around Cebu behave even when a little drunk. The formerly famous mongering hole (the sunflower) is now owned by Koreans and naturally one sees more of them in there, girls as well as guys. Also this presents new monegering possibilities in itself. Korean girls like to fool around as much as anyone else.

I know of a certain bald headed diving instructor in Davao (who shall remain nameless, he he he) who has cut a swath through the Korean female population.

Regards

Spamhog

X Man

10-19-06, 12:55

Hmm, that may be too much information.

Nevertheless, Koreans and Japanese tend to have conformist, heirarchial societies (teachers have power). Lots of social rules and lots of tsking if you aren't conforming. These folks can really let loose when they are on holiday (or when drinking) and somewhat free of their shackles.

It's good to hear that some bald guy is taking advantage of the situation.

X

PS: why is Cebu Sunflower a "formerly famous mongering hole"?

The formerly famous mongering hole (the sunflower) is now owned by Koreans and naturally one sees more of them in there, girls as well as guys. Also this presents new monegering possibilities in itself. Korean girls like to fool around as much as anyone else.

I know of a certain bald headed GUY in Davao (who shall remain nameless, he he he) who has cut a swath through the Korean female population.

Pinay Lover007

10-19-06, 13:00

I will be staying in Davao from November 25, 2006 until January 1, 2007 and i am looking for a good dentist to work on my teeth. I need 2 crowns and several cavities to be filled. If anyone can recommend a good dentist i would greatly appreciate it. Thanks.

Enricos

10-19-06, 13:25

GE, Keep posting

Enricos

GoodEnough

10-19-06, 15:53

Thanks to those who wrote in. It wasn't so much that guy whose PM I posted that bothered me. It was mainly some stuff that's happened off of this board and the details aren't important.

I've been in Manila for two of the last three weeks, and I haven't been out much here as I was just too tired from work. Tonight however, we decided to go out with someone from my office and went to Cafe de Ville (Claude's place). This is the first time I've eaten there in about a year, during which time Claude has stopped cooking for medical reasons and has turned the French kitchen over to Filipino cooks whom he trained. The results were not outstanding, and the Dragon Slayer will no doubt be disappointed to learned that the meal was strictly mediocre, but expensive. We did however, order five cases of excellent French wine, some of which will be reserved for New Year's Eve. There's an excellent wine called Domaine du Peche that I'm saving to drink with the Slayer as he and I enjoyed two bottles of this wine a year or so ago.

After dinner, we walked the twenty meters over to Henny's to have a drink with him, and I did notice that the bar Someplace Else was packed, which is unusual here for a Thursday night. Not only was it packed, but a couple of hte girls hanging out were stunning. I'm pretty sure these were not pros. For all those guys who send me PMs or who post here, wanting to no where they can meet non-pro ladies, you should definitely add this place to the list.

Per the Slayer's suggestion, I did ask both Henny and Claude about hosting wine tastings in November. Both were reasonably enthusiastic, and both said they would contact their distributors to see if something could be arranged. Claude typically holds two tastings a year, strictly by invitation, and they are truly excellent. He prepares the food, the distributor brings 15-20 wines, and a good time is had by all. Actually, his distriubtor ought to love me this week since I just ordered five cases that he'll supply. Henny too, has started to move up market with his wine, and he now has a bottle of Margaux that he sells for $120 and that costs him $100. He's going to see if he can get some more moderately priced stuff for a tasting.

If we can get Henny and Claude to each throw a tasting during the same period, those of us who are here during that time ought to enjoy ourselves immensely. If this does come off, we'll make sure that there are enough young lovelies to occupy those of you who come stag, but, since the tastings are free, you guys have to promise to buy at least a bottle or two.

Thanks again to the guys who posted encouraging words.

:D

GE

Cebu Local

10-19-06, 23:25

GE Glad to know you are staying.Hopefully no more problems will arise.Regarding Claude s Restaurant Tour observations are right on the dot
Apparently due to his medical condition,His wife has taken over running the operations of the Restaurant.Try as she may,She cannot match the cooking skills of a true native.But she cooks great native food.So How does Claude s French Restaurant and Native Cooking sound Onion Soup paired with Sisig Haha Just joking

Since I stay away from controversy I will shy away,But I would like to offer some support from a distance. Gaitano is the the largest Italian Wine Distributor in the country and supports wine tastings. He owns Galileo Inoteka which I believe you may have heard of.Would you like me to contact him and PM you his contact details,So you can communicate directly with him.Ditto for Bobby Joseph of Ralph s who in addition to owning Ralph s is President of NAITAS,the National Association of Independent Travel Agents.The guy just solicited 4 Room nights from me for Raffle Prizes at the SKAL Makati Christmas party.Would you like his contact details for him to sponsor this???Anyway Best Regards

Cebu Local

10-20-06, 02:12

Surfer
People have different tastes in Liquor and I guess We should respect that.For Example My Brother who is a Vice President at New York Life collects Fine Scotches and When he has me try his latest Single Malt from some obscure Scottish Distillery or Johnny Walker Blue,I can hardly tell the difference.I am not ashamed to admit I do not have a sophisticated taste in Liquor.

I like Portugese Wines and am happy with a Simple Vihno Verde or Vihno Tinto myself.I like a fine tawny port occasionally.Champagne is a wonderful drink,Which Unfortunately My Fiance does not enjoy it and nither does my Future Father in law Good for me.In fact during My last trip He gave me a Taittinger Comtes De Champagne 1996 Bottle and a Salon Le Misnel 1995 Bottle Which were given to him as Gifts When He Assisted A Foriegn Group get their Shanghai permits in order.Are these great Champagnes ???I have no idea whatsoever,Just know that they are fine vintages best saved for a special occasion.Anyway Good luck and all the best wishes for a succesfull wine tasting for team Davao.

GoodEnough

10-20-06, 06:57

Actually, my girlfriend hasn't met that many guys from this board but it's true that some of the meetings have been fairly grotesque, or at least very, very strange. I could respond at some length to Trim's comment, but then I consider the source and I figure it just isn't worth it, and then there's Jackson's (well-considered) rule about not attacking other members.

I was just speaking to the Slayer and got interrupted by a call from Henny and I think he might actually do thie wine tasting if his supplier can come up with enough reds. Surfer, you might be interested to know, that "room temperature" regardless of where you happen to be drinking the wine or what temperature it may be outside, is about 12-14 degrees celsius, which is why the French--and anyone else who knows wine--chill their reds to this temperature. I could tell you the history of this practice if you're interested. The single exceptions to this are heavy burgundies, but we don't get many of them in Davao.

The Slayer's correct about never drinking whites. Even when I was living in France I could never get into them and I didn't include any in last night's order to Claude.

In vino veritas.

:D

GE

Dragon Slayer

10-20-06, 07:01

Pals,

GoodEnough, a Class Act in Himself, just called me. He is NOW caliing my daughter's mother to iwsh her a Happy Birthday. I look forward to meeting you guys very soon.

Dragon Slayer

Dragon Slayer

10-20-06, 07:04

Pals,

Invitations will go out. GE told me that BOTH Henny and Claude like this Idea. I will personally purchase at least one case of fine red wine at each tasting, assuming qualtiy and price. I have no doubt that both will be acceptible.

I have consumed a large quantity of magnificent Italian and Australian Wines (gotta love the Italians & Aussies, BOTH US Pals). I am now back to celebrating my Woman's birthday.

Dragon Slayer

Cebu Local

10-20-06, 11:27

ds thank you for the information.you really know your fine wines ,ge personally i prefer white wine like vihno verde,rhieslings etc but that is a personal opinion and preference i can apreciate a fine burgundy just like anybody else.anyway anything is better then chinese wine.here are some recent tasting notes changyu chefu red wine color bright red taste cough syrup mixed with flavor of grape tang.cheers

X Man

10-20-06, 12:58

Trimkeeper,

You need to cool down and pay attention.

GE was suggesting that Jackson's rule prevented him from attacking YOU. Or maybe he was using that as an excuse to not further pollute the Davao board, I don't know his intent, but he never suggested anyone was attacking anyone. The man laughs at foolishness, but I never saw him attack anyone. I did see him send a German Shepard into quivering fear...so it is possible. Don't confuse the man with the other person who always quotes him.

Second, I've met the man's significant other and I don't believe she ever said anyting derogatory about..... I don't care if DS gets pissed off at me. In fact, DS should mind his "classy" manners and refrain from mentioning other folk's women, and refrain from repeatedly attacking people for the flimsiest of reasons. Trimkeeper, you owe an apology. You insulted a man and his woman just because of some third party rant on a sex site.

Third, DS, thanks for all the great info over the years. Thanks for the invitation to the party in Davao for New Years. Everyone understands you're the big man at the table, but please stop knocking over everyone's drinks.

If I make it to Davao, I want to relax, have fun, drink, fug, hit the beach and a few other things. I don't need anyone to make rules, count pennies, nor attempt to belittle me with size, status or income.

Now, let's all try to follow Ge's great example: Be civilized, give information, and avoid being a prima donna.

X

You can do better than that Mr. GE., nobody's making attacks on anyone. I was merely commenting on DS' comment. If he can make his comments then you have to expect a reply. Why is it he can talk about just whatever the fuck he wants and does and when someone makes a little remark they get nailed for their comments. Again...like I said many times, you guys don't say you own the board but with the threads you guys lay down surely proves you do without having to say it. Who gives a rats ass about the bullshit you guys talk about. Just talk about the pussy and PM the other shit to each other. If you dont want to hear the comments dont put them on the board!

Trim

X Man

10-20-06, 13:10

i'm a wine lover, but mostly in the romantic sense. haven't met any filipinas that liked wine...most haven't tried. hmmmm, what am i waiting for???

i prefer reds, but in the philippine heat, i think a chilled white wine would be quite tasty.

like cl, i'm not interested in joining the davao condom-pocket-t-shirt gang, but "wine and women" parties sound very inviting.

btw, if i bring a bottle, is there a chance that air pressure changes will blow the cork? had a bad experience coming out of the caribean...a bottle of rum blew it's top inside my baggage.

x

i prefer white wine like vihno verde,rhieslings etc but that is a personal opinion and preference i can apreciate a fine burgundy just like anybody else.anyway anything is better then chinese wine.here are some recent tasting notes changyu chefu red wine color bright red taste cough syrup mixed with flavor of grape tang.cheers

Admin

10-20-06, 15:15

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

GoodEnough

10-21-06, 15:14

If it's Saturday night we must have been at Henny's place (De Bonte Koe) which was so busy that Henny was turning away people without reservations; unusual for any restaurant in Davao. We had our fairly large German Shepherd with us and so we ate outside, where I had an excellent opportunity to observe what was happening at Someplace Else, the bar diagonally across the courtyard.

I counted twenty women sitting in small groups, and obviously waiting for something to happen. As I remarked the last time I reported on this place, they were not pros, or at least not obvious pros but they were clearly amenable to something. When I got up to walk the dog, I got a lot of comments directed at the dog but meant for me. Maybe I should start a dog rental business for visiting mongers wanting a conversation opener. It clearly would have worked for me tonight.

Chicos is a bar which features live music a few nights a week, and it too was jumping. The crowd was mixed between couples and again, ladies out on the town, sitting in small groups and drinking San Mig light. What's interesting about these women is they all were well dressed, as were the women in Someplace Else, and they all had at least a little money, since these bars insist that the only way you're allowed to sit at a table is to drink and/or eat.

As we left to go home, I made a point of driving up Rizal St. past Swigs, Bar 183 and the Promenade. It was only 9:30, which is a bit early for those places to start really hopping, but there was a decent crowd in the outdoor bars, and again, loads of women, but I was only driving by and I can't say what they looked like.

This is of course Saturday night, so it's the busiest night of the week, and it's not like this on other nights. However, anyone in Davao alone who cannot get laid on Rizal St. on Saturday night might want to seriously consider joining a monestary. I'm sure that by 11 or so the crowds at these places will be double what I observed.

Driving home, we took Torres St. which is a fairly large street, and for the first time ever, I noticed a bunch of hookers patrolling the street. There weren't many, and those that I noticed were not particularly attractive, but this may be a hunting gorund for those interested in inexpensive p4p treats.

I also stopped at the corner convenience store to buy some stuff for tomorrow's dive, and the outside terrace was jammed. Not a seat to be had. There was one table of student nurses, but the incoming tide of lowlife street people pretty much filled the rest of the tables. There were however, several women, though most were sitting at tables with some fairly disreputable looking locals.

I get a steady stream of PMs asking me where to go to meet normal women, and I've responded to several of these. I hope though that this post provides a fuller description of some of the better places to hang out, at least on Saturday.

:D

GE

Admin

10-23-06, 17:35

Gentlemen,

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.

Let's get back to the subject.

Thank You,

Jackson

X Man

10-23-06, 21:57

Great report from GE. Thanks for keeping us up to date on the happenings in Davao. Attached is a picture taken out the back door of Chicos in the "courtyard" that GE mentions in his post.

Chicos is a bar which features live music a few nights a week, and it too was jumping. The crowd was mixed between couples and again, ladies out on the town, sitting in small groups and drinking San Mig light.

X Man

10-24-06, 12:43

You gotta love a guy who would create a board like this. He must live in a virtual reality with thousands of sleazy women and far too many drunken, aggresive, lowlife arseholes.

If anyone is interested, far below the Presidential Suite at Casa Leticia, are the STANDARD rooms. Yes, some people actually do stay in the standard rooms. They are really standard.

X

Midas Touch

11-02-06, 07:29

I'd like to share with you my well spent 4 days vacation adventure in Davao ...

First of all let me start with letting you know my impression about Davao
and its people. I've found Davao to be one of the safest cities in the Philippines. I commend the mayor for doing a fantastic job in keeping peace and order. I've found the people of davao very respectful, helpful, friendly, honest and disciplined. Cheers to Davao and its people!

DAY 1

Checked in Casa Leticia about 6:30pm. Nice, clean hotel w/ friendly service.

Went to Victoria Plaza, ate at AHFAT Restaurant. For about P850 had
live lobster, live pampano fish, mango shake. Food was absolutely fresh,
super delicious and inexpensive.

After dinner, walked nearby to VISA KTV, didnt see any girl i liked.

Walked further down to KAROKAN KTV within Victoria Plaza, high end ktv bar, many girls, I almost got to vip a girl but didn't.

Went to Hotlegs Too (not II) many so-so looking girls, nude show, tried the small vip room, with a lovely young 18 yr. old lass, named MAYUMI. Sucked her nice standing boobs with pointed nips, fingered her succulent pussy. She got real horny, opened her legs wide and shoved my face to her nice smelling dripping pussy.

After Hotlegs Too, I hopped on a taxi and went to a casa, as recommended by the taxi driver. There were about 6 chics, 2 were lookers and students. I finally got one, brought her home to Casa Leticia for an "End of the Night" banging! Her name was DIVINE, was clean, nice smelling wet pussy, gave me a very sensational BJ that made me say ahhhh ... ahhhhh!

DAY 2
Called Carabao Dive Shop. Good service, they picked me up at my hotel to go scuba diving at Paradise Beach in Samal Island. Current was quite strong but manageable, saw many nice corals, fishes. It was a nice relaxing dive and we stayed for about 55 mimutes underwater.

At about 8:30pm in the evening, started scanning "Ground Zero" convenience store at Illustre cor. Camus, but didnt see a chic i liked and I didn't like the ambiance of the place either. I decided to go Bar hopping, I headed to check the big KTV bars: Shangrila KTV, ET ktv, New World Palace ktv, but didn't see any chic i liked. Until somehow we dropped in a small ktv bar called SANDAWA ktv. There i found the most beautiful and fresh 18 yr. old girl named: IYAH. I got excited and didnt waste time. I got her into the vip room and after some sweet talks and few drinks i started kissing her soft, luscious seemingly innocent lips. She was a bit shy but started to enjoy it. I progressed to caressing her seemingly newly developed and firm breasts. Her nipples turned hard and protruded to invite me to suck it with joy. Her skin was so smooth, body very clean and smelled so good. After about 5 rounds of drinks, i finally got her to remove her panty. I couldnt bear not to dive her perfect pussy. It smelled naturally fragrant, succulently lubricated, thin pubic hair, small, cute and smooth vaginal lips and openning. As i inserted my angry raging stiff dick into her pussy, i could feel the the real tightness only helped by her natural lubrication to
penetrate her love box. Her pussy hugged my dick so warmly, there was no room for my dick to float, but was in constant tight contact with her vaginal walls. Wow what a sensation. It took me longer to cum as i bore in mind to control my urges of cumming at once. I cant forget that classic penetration because i had to work my way on earning it. This girl is not an automatic fuck, you have to work your way, have some technique. I was surprised to have banged her in the vip room. It may not be true, but she told me that i was the second man to do her, aside from her BF. (it also may be true coz her pussy tightness tells and her initial reluctance for sex was evident in the beginning)

After Sandawa ktv, i visited VENUE to check the girls, but didnt see anyone i liked, the girls seemed cheap and a far comparison to IYAH.

Then visited AUTOSHOP, but it was too late, the ladies were already gone.

Went to Casino Regal Hotel to play, but no luck, I guess i was already lucky with IYAH.

DAY 3
Took a taxi all the way to EDEN natural park for a sight seeing tour. They also have nice accommodations there where you can take your special girl to enjoy overnight.

After Eden, I passed by a fruitstand, to sample and eat Davao's tropical fruits, such as Durian, Pomelo, Rambutan and Lanzones. They say Durian is a natural aphrodisiac, but i didnt like the taste. I liked the Pomelo fruit.

I went to Gaisano Shopping Mall to book a flight back to Manila and did some shopping. I bought some nice t-shirts and a nice fake ferragamo salvatore shoes for P800. It was just like the original with soft leather, lightweight, rubber soles, comfortable fit.

At about 8:30pm ... pussy time ... i scanned "Ground Zero" again but didnt see a chic worth talking to. There were pimps on the street asking if i wanted girls, they showed them to me but i didnt like them, they looked dirty and beaten.

I hopped in a taxi to show me Rizal Promenade. I guess it was early and didnt see much chic. We proceeded to Plaza Roman, massage and bar. The girls in the massage didnt fancy me, most of them looked old and beaten and in the bar, it was still early and didnt have much girls to show yet.

We toured AUTOSHOP again and VENUE but didnt see someone i liked. So I was just strolling around Davao city inside a taxi, when the taxi driver suggested to try HILLTOWN KTV.

I went inside Hilltown ktv. It was nice, clean, huge and felt new. They have so many huge vip rooms for private videoke use. The mamasan showed me a room full of girls. It took me quite a while to select a 19 yr. old lass named: MARICEL (this may be her true first name, as she told me).

Maricel had a wonderful body. Clean, smelled good and the best attitude among all the girls I encountered in Davao. She is not as beautiful as IYAH but super entertaining. We just holed ourselves in a big clean, aircon, classy vip room, complete with toilet. We drank, ate and sung songs all night. we petted heavily and it came to a point were she took off all her clothes, was dancing and singing to me all night, while dancing and teasing me with her naked body. The vip room had a lock so nobody could just enter but the upper door had a window. The toilet was so clean, so i decided to move the action inside the toilet for more privacy. We locked the toilet, then i sat on the clean toilet bowl cover lowered my pants and underwear. She started to give me a sensuous eyepopping BJ, ahhhh! She enjoyed sucking my dick as she didnt want to stop doing it. When my dick reached the highest point of stiffness, I told her to take my place and seat on the bowlcover. She did, i spread her legs apart, sniffed her pussy and saw her glorious **** about to drip with juice. I played with her pussy to make her even hornier and licked her clit. She got wilder and begged for it ... wow, time for insertion!...I spread and hung her legs on my shoulder then inserted my stiff dick into her thirsty pussy The action was ecstatic, deep, hard banging, pounding, ahhhs and ohhhhs and outflow. After it was
over i just couldnt believe how exciting and euphoric it was doing it in such a place with such a wonderful lady. What a night of pleasure and entertainment!

DAY 4
Went back to AHFAT Restaurant for lunch. This time i ordered live crabs and steamed rare Tigik fish. As expected it was another very delicious inexpensive meal, only experienced in Davao.

My flight back to Manila was late afternoon, so I thought of ending my Davao vacation with pure relaxation. I was recommended to go to BAHIA SPA. The place is nice and clean and service excellent. I had a steam bath, jacuzzi bath and superb massage, thai stretches & swedish combination by a young pretty masseuse all for P500.

THE END. MIDAS TOUCH flies back to Manila to conquer more urban gorgeous pussies.

I have attached a picture of IYAH and MARICEL.

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Cebu Local

11-02-06, 22:29

Great Report on Davao,I took some notes myself.Thanks for a detailed report on how you can have luck in Davao.

Surfer

11-02-06, 23:14

Agree with CL; very nice to actually get a report about finding women interspersed with all the garbage that has polluted the PI threads of late. Well done getting the discussion back to finding girls King Midas, you do have the golden touch apparently.

How was the diving at Paradise beach on Samal? What was it about the ambience at Ground zero that you found distateful? Which KTV do you rate the highest?

As much as I LOVE that kind of report, posting pictures of the girls, along with names and where you found them, leads to problems more often than not due to the presence of idiots who will surely print your report and pictures and then take them to the KTVs you mentioned seeking those same girls. Some guys will never understand discretion or YMMV.

Dafacer

11-03-06, 03:58

Excellen report Midas! Gave me a chubby. Where are you based? Why Davao for vacation?

When you say "beaten" do you me beat down/tired looking or actually beaten? If the latter I'd like to give the beaters a knee cappin!

I'd like to share with you my well spent 4 days vacation adventure in Davao.

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Dafacer

11-03-06, 04:12

Surfer,

Dont discourage. Finding these chicks is a needle in a haystack right?

Agree with CL; Some guys will never understand discretion or YMMV.

Spam Hog

11-04-06, 05:07

Midas' report indeed illustrates why we expats & others in the know are fond of calling davao "the Philippines best kept secret". Typical foray at reasonable prices with interesting ladies many of whom have never been with a foreigner.

Regading "beaten" I beleive Midas is refering to girls who have been well used or have a bit too much expereince in their profession and are starting to show it. You will see the type, a bit puffy in the tummy (too much rice and pork, too many kids) maybe a bad tooth or two (can't afford a dentist)
eyes a bit bloated from too many late night shifts entertaining filipino high rollers & drinking tanduay.

It is a shame that none of the girls in Roman plaza were up to their previous standards, used to be that the former management (a friend of mine) hired some real nice looking ones like the legendary 'tata' or Tin tin with the naturally bald pussy. New management settling for second best I guess.

The disco/bar just adjacent to it was also a place for freelancers but the action didn't start until later int he evening.

I reported before on some of the smaller and lesser known KTVs in Davao
(Sandawa area is mentined by Midas, Matina actually) that dot the main highway all the way to Ulas. Few of these KTV's see a foreigner and they fall all over themselves to try to be your GF for the night.

Good luck

Spamhog

Midas Touch

11-04-06, 05:28

CEBU LOCAL,
You're welcome, I wished we had a chance to get together in Davao during my stay.

SURFER,
Diving in Paradise beach was good, not excellent. The good thing about diving there is that it is very near, a mere 10 mins. boatride from Sasa, Davao City. It was a way of making good use of my afternoon time, while waiting for nightime. It was a beach dive and was so comfortable and practically no work, since the divemaster carried most of the heavy equipment i rented. It cost me a total P1,350 for a 1 tank dive, which included pickup from the hotel, RT transportation to Sasa, RT boat transfer to Paradise Beach, entrance to Paradise Beach, full scuba diving equipment and friendly divemaster buddy. The water was warm and visibility good. You will see a lot a diff. species of corals, sponges, crinoids, anemonies, clown fishes, many other small fishes. It was just colorful underwater. It was a relaxing dive and refreshing dive that cooled down and washed away the alcohol from my body from last's nights drinking. The deepest part was about 50 ft. and we stayed for about 55 minutes under water. If you want to experience excellent dive spots in the Philippines, I recommend: TUBATTAHA REEFS in the Sulu Sea, Cabilao and Balicasag Islands in Bohol. These dive spots i've tried before and they are really AWESOME! Lots of Pelagics, sharks and schools of fishes. You have to join the liveaboard boat for a week to be able to go to Tubattaha Reefs. Anilao in Batangas is
also very good diving for many colorful small fishes, multitudes of corals, underwater christmas tree beauty and macro photography.

Personally, I didn't like Ground Zero because of its location in the corner of the street where a lot of people pass by, a lot of cars and other transportation zoom by. I find it kinda noisy and too open for me. I prefer cozy places. However, if i saw a pretty chic i liked there, I could have stationed there for awhile.

It's hard to rate KTVs based on different factors, but if i were to come back again to Davao I would definitely visit the following KTV to prospect and look for that new special someone ...
1. HILLTOWN KTV - nice, huge, plush, KTV with good facilities, many girls to chose from
2. SANDAWA KTV - small but may have someone special, just like Iyah, who knows?
3. KAROKAN KTV - seems ok, nice place, just hope that the girls in the lineup are pretty
4. VISA KTV - visit on a friday night, maybe you'll find someone pretty & hot
5. PLAZA ROMAN Bar - they say there are many pretty ones here, visit about 11PM and try

DEFACER,
I am based in the United States, but frequent the Philippines, about 3 times a year just to have good time, enjoyment, relaxation and practice my favorite hobby ... mongering!

I have been to different parts in the Philippines and have had many happy chic encounters in Quezon City and Manila. This time I thought of Davao to sample what it could offer. I say that, the Davao trip indeed has been counted as one of my enjoyable trips.

Beaten for me means, the chic seemingly appears to be overUsed sexually and doesnt look fresh, based on how i see them physically. I may be wrong in how i see them but its good to be resourceful enough to select someone you think is better and to your liking.

The chics i found may be needles in a haystack and i really had to practically go around Davao city to look for them. I paid the price and that was effort and time to look for the needles, but it was well worth it. Of course aside from money, you need luck and charisma to make it all happen. Cheers!

Martians

11-06-06, 15:47

As Tuesday is Melbourne Cup day, O'Flannagans should have a bumper crowd for it. Maurice is back in town but the place is a bit of a dive. Plus they show Liverpool matches, as if anyone needs that shit. When Maurice is not there, his help spend more time eating the food than working.

If you head to The Venue from O'Flannagans, there are many hoker streets to the left of the main road leading to the Venue. There are best seen by taxi as even though the roads are all off the main busy road, they are dark with lots of trees.
The main sw scene is not where people here say it is but at the corner of the stret Mt Apo Hotel fronts on to, and San Pedro St. There is a short time hotel there with always a few hookers hanging outside 24/7. After 11 pm and well into the early hours, there are up to 40 or so there. There are plenty of pimps too but they are mostly losers and can be safely ignored. Turning into San Pedro Street and walkiing to City Hall late at night there are always plenty of male and feamle pimps offering chicks.

The square outside City Hall and all the way down to Rozal Park has an interesting mix of professionals and amateurs. The Reflexology guys all seem to be gay and, after Duterte hands out the free porridge on Friday afternoons, about 20 of the world's ugliest ladyboys assemble for a game of voleyball. THis spectacle is hard to beat for ugliness, exhibitionism and bad volleyball. On the plus side, it shows what lies just under the bonnet.

There are about 5 NBangladeshi guys hanging around trying to pick up locals. They might be interested to know that the hookers - the better looking ones aged under 21 - jump into the cops' patrol wagons in the early hours, chat and perform a variety of adult services for the boys in khaki. This means that the hookers are the eyes and ears of the cops (in a city renowned for its death squads) and a scam is a possibility if you go for the jailbait. I bet the Bangladeshis are asking for it.

Once you reach the far paret of San Pedro cathedral, walk to the Marco Polo on the Avinco side. About half way up, there are a number of short term hotels with 24/7 service.

As regards prices, a very large number of women are paid 90 pesos (ninety) a day, and a 10 pesos (ten) overtime rate. This should give you an indication of waht the marekt will bear. 300 pesos is the short time local rate and the roads off San Pedro St near the square have a large number of grotto 80 pesos short time hotels. The older women will go for as low as 100 pesos.

If you move upmarket to the expat hangouts, there are some hu$$band chasers around. Remember that 3,000-5,000 pesos is the average monthly wage here and act accordingly (or not if you like).

Paradise Beach Resort has a 75 peso entry fee. Nahundnow makes a much better dive if you join a boat going out. The scenery both above and below water is nice, and even better if you take some flesh along to feed to yourself.

Frankly, I find many of the hookers in Davao and Manila clapped out. I picked up a 20 year old stunner in San Pedro St who, on the second night, slept immediately she entered the room. This allowed me to study her up close.She was so jaded and she was a non smoker. Her mate who hangs out with the cops has the body of an 19 year old and the face of a 40 year old. (She is 19).

Earlier, outside LA Cafe, I eyed up an 18 year old beauty at 10 am. When her toothless shabu pimnp pulled a knife, I disarmed him, and made a citizen's arrest of the two of them and brought them to the cop shop on the next road. She was beautiful but unable to pull a customer all night long and she was consorting with shit like that.

I saw some guy boasting about conning Samar salesladies into havign sex for a second hand cell phone. Whatever floats your boat I guess. But there are nice women about, but not on the street. Even the youngest ones are clapped out.
I could write more but suffice it to say the street sex scene is a bore, as is anything more upmarket. If you want hard on sex, go to Angeles. Davao and other places have other, more wholesome attractions.

One further thing. Don't believe the shot about them being students. If you are a personable guy, hang out on the streets, take one long time, build up trust. After that night, they will all know you. And so will the cops.

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Martians

11-07-06, 12:12

De Bonte Ko, featured prominently in this thread, is a Dutch owned restaurant in a tiny foreign courtyard in Rizal Street, which runs parallel to San Pedro. De Bonte Ko and its sister Spanish restaurant are nice places to bring more upscale babes for some upscale nosh. The food is good but expensive by street standards and so not suitable for slappers. Some Place Else is a similarly designed bar opposite De Bonte ko and is frequented by upwardly mobile student nurse types who nurse their beers. Some of the waitresses are cute – they dress up a little better than most Davao losers – but are probably a hard catch.

The Venue is loud and noisy and has too many students nursing their drinks. Jack’s Ridge makes a nice night out with a slapper and is a good taxi ride from town. Wear some anti mosquito stuff. Good live bands and Viet etc food.

There is a big sex and shabu scene by the beach at night with rooms etc for rent at reasonable prices. This is where the fun people/hookers/shabu users/ hang out. This place is only advisable if you are street smart. Although Rody Duterte, the mayor of Davao, has made it plain that foreigners are off limits, a little discretion never hurts.
Avinco, opposite the Marco Polo is the best place to change real money into pesos and the rates at the many tourist shops are comparable to Mabini St Ermita. Rates vary slightly from shop to shop.
The airport tax is 40 pesos at Davao, 200 at Manila Domestic. Get a metered taxi at Davao. At Manila, it is best to walk out to the main road and get a guy who turns on the meter.

Women apart, there is little to buy in Davao. Mt Apo is a good 3 day stretch of the legs but a guide would be handy. The weather is mild, not much happening. Just poor people having sex for free or for money.

Finally to the guy who met R- and fucked her all of week one, and married her on week 2: congratulations. You have found a wonderful woman, as many of can attest. For any other pony tailed fools: stay in Angeles, Los Angeles if you are that green.
I remain agnostic on wheteher these mixed marriages (age in particular) can work. Although all 50+ ers like women young enough to be their daughters, some are really hopeless cases.

Spam Hog

11-08-06, 07:39

having lived, worked, mongered and married in davao, i can assure you the street scenes that are painted herein are true and factual. martians just scratched the surface and didn;t even get into the real dicey areas near santa ana wharf, magsay say park after dark or the notorious kiddy corner near bolton bridge, however a caveat, if i may.

the p100 hookers, shabu heads, whacked out trannny's and glue sniffiing (rugby) boys and girls that sally forth in davao's mean streets after dark & sometimes broad daylight are no different than their brethern in any other philippines city i've seen, be it manila, cebu, cagayan de oro,bislig, butuan. etc ad naseum. it is easy to find such effluvia no matter where one goes in the phils as any veteran monger or expat afficianado can relay. true, some cities have more or denser population of scum buckets and the prices may vary. i would estimate that you are getting bargain nasement prices in all of mindanao with davao a little more high end than, say cdo, butuan or bislig/surigao.

now the question is why would one want to mingle with such low lifes and partake of rock bottom rate hookers most of which are diseased or employ their shabu peddling husbands/bf/pimps as stickup artists? i guarantee you a foreigner does not have to resort to such to get laid in davao or any where else. davao isn't exactly a monger town, that has been said time and again. however enough ktv's, massage parlors etc exist for p4p set, but most guys go there looking for girlfriend or even wife material, somebody they met on the internet or whatever. they usually get laid time and again by simply chatting up waitresses, salesgirls or what have you. running around on the streets at 2 am is unnecessary and unhealthy. yes, foreigners are protected in davao but why push it.

most of these street people serve the filipino truck drivers in from the province, the ill paid afp soldier and the equally bottom feeding merchant seamen, i strongly suspect that the bangladeshi's mentioned in the previous post were off one of the ships and being unable to score with one of the notoriously clapped and syphallytic "akyhat barko" (ship hopper) *****s went in town looking for something a little more "upscale" ie p200 blow job instead of p100 bj. what you are dealing with here is the equivilent of the $10 "crack *****s" one sees in most usa ghetto's.

nor is such limited to the philippines, one can find skanked out 'hos in bangkok's klong tooey section, all wired up on "yah bah" (shabu), ditto for
kl city and jakarta, the list goes on and on but why bother?

bottom line, these women are diseased, dangerious and most likely ****,
avoid them no matter what city you are in the philippines/asia/the world.

regards

spamhog

Martians

11-08-06, 08:28

Spam Hog: I agree I just scratched the surface, one reason being I like scratching surfaces and am smart enough not to go too far into the wrong side of town. I did go into Magsay Park many times after dark and spoke to the homeless, who asked me why I ventured into their world. (Coz I am me). I was at Santa Ana wharf during the day and was not aware that a Bolton Bridge existed. I had my photo taken in the park by a female family visiting from CDO, who were staying at a 7 peso a night place. They were clean and respectable btw. I did not feel unsafe though I did avoid a few specimens. The thing is many haven o money so hanging out is all they can do and there is a thin line between hooking and hanging out.

The volleyball playing shemales seemed rather middle class to me and were merely claiming the high ground by playing volleyball in the main town square. Flaunting it even if they have not go it. The gaggle of ladyboy hookers I saw another night could also do with lessons in make up etc. The reflexology gays were all middle class.
The Bangladeshis own a shop in Gaysano shopping mall. The hookers I hired all spoke reasonable English and used condoms. I doubt they were diseased. I did ask how many foreigners they had serviced: not many but loads of Pinoys.

I did not run around at 2 am and am usually locked in a hooker's embrace by then. But 2 am seems normal mongering time and it is good to get a take on the street.

As regards your bottom line: all the ones I saw were of age. However, there did seem to be some jail bait as I pointed out and the presence of the cops makes a sting a la Angeles likely there.

I think you are misguided to shout of diseases etc, though I reckon the chances of getting one are higher than other places. I like trawling those areas as I like to hear their stories and their insights and to glimpse their world views. The sex, often mundane, is not the main course.

X Man

11-08-06, 14:01

Joking, a few of the regulars on the Davao board have "retired", so there is no need to keep referring to them.

Good posts Martians. Much of it has been touched on before, but it's nice to have such a comprehensive update.

I might be in Davao in late Dec if anyone else expects to be in town.

X

Spam Hog

11-09-06, 11:05

Martians just a few things regarding disease and why I caution all who venture to the "street".

You got a good handle of the big picture regading the "street". But consider WHY they are in the street not working in a bar/ktv etc. These low end(Hookers) are there to serve the pinoy truckers, merchant seamen, soldiers whatever who don't have a lot of money to begin with, remember there are not that many foreigners who come to Davao and of those that do only a relative portion engage in mongering, and most mongering takes place in the KTV's bars etc for that purpose. Most of the girls are VERY young, most of them work the street as they are TOO YOUNG to get a GRO license required to work in a videoke, ktv or what have you, most cannot no matter what age as they have a record or are on the Barangay Capt watch list for drugs/crime one thing that is STRICTLY enforced in the davao is the age limits and non criminality for GRO license.

Now to further clarrifly my assertion I will quote statistics from various Davao organizations which make their claims rather public in local papers etc. This year in January they had a big ASEAN conference, all kinds of security measures but some Nob in city hall with rare intelligence decided they better clean up the street girls, ie get them into clinics and have them tested and treated else many visiting dignitaries are sent home with drippy dicks.

As a result of that much touted effort here are some things that were discovered: the good news, VERY FEW CASES OF AIDES/HIV are reported in Davao, the bad news: While there were a number of ghonerreha cases, cases of Syphyllis far exceeded the norm.

The most diseased specimens were the low rent 'Ahkyat Barko', the ship hoppers who serve the merchant seamen, imagine these guys coming off the ships and plowing some hooker without a rubber as they are too cheap to roll one on or macho tradition distains it (Ala Pinoy).

Three years ago I was buddies with a local (americano) missionary. He and his Filipino wife would actually do some good by driving around in their battered tamaraw and handing out condoms to the street girls. They also worked for a local organization connected to WHO and offered free treatment to any who would come in. This visayan fluent no nonsense fellow estimated that 90% of the "street" girls (and Trannies) were STD infected, once again a lot of syphyllis and clap but really not much in the HIV/Aides dept. There were also a host of other diseases like TB and Hep B/C (both communicable).

Heres another mongering tip fellas, if you want to check a conga line of girls getting tested for their weekly GRO licensure go over to Torres street in Davao just north of Central bank. (I can't remember the day either wednesday or thursday) you can always score an 'off duty' cutie who is coming out of the clinic and just had her pap smear.

I would venture to say that some of the "homeless" you met in magsaysay park were likely ship hoppers, there and some other sections of the city 'Boulevard' in particular their favorite haunts. However, others are likey "lumads" (native tribes)who come down from the mountains this time of year (xmas) to sing, dance, beg and sometimes fuck for money. Lots of these folks (god bless 'em) carry TB etc just by virture of the fact they have NO health care in their villages and rely on native cures. (aside: one native cure for the clap is sticking your dick in a coconut for about an hour).

So I stand by my caution, to avoid street hookers in Davao or anywhere else in the PI for that matter. Most port areas in the Phils have the ship hoppers who service the incoming sailors and most catch the various diseases as the result of prior liberites in prior ports in a dozen nations.

JOKING:

I will be the first to admidt that I have been a "cheerleader" for Davao in some of my past posts. But if there is ANY hype at all it is to counter the Hype from the US embassy about how dangerous Davao is, I always counter that with a big "bullshit", the whole Philippines and Davao in particular is realtively safer for a foreigner than your average US city. I stand by that assertion. If anything Martains just proved that, I guarentee you he would not have fared so well in a US city mingling with the "street".

Regards

Spamhog

Martians

11-09-06, 11:38

Spam Hog: Interesting post. I find the low HIV rate of the Philippines, given its fame and infamy as a sea faring port, most odd. I do know Hep C is big there. I did meet several tribals (very dark) down for Christmas but none gave me the glad eye. Something like 40% of Pinoys are susceptible to TB (?), something not commented on much here.

I did not sample all that many women and always used a rubber. They seemed clean to me. Contrary to the whackos on the Thai safe sex thread, I generally find the married ones safe as they have an investment, their child, in life. I think your native cure for the clap would do well on the Thai safe sex thread btw.

I have appreciated your comments and those of GE etc in the past. The main thing is to get a fuller picture. I have been in much scarier places than Magsaysay Park; the main danger there is saying the wrong thing and meeting some wanna be hero and his 20 friends. I met no bar hoppers.

I do value your comments and insights. However, as so many women there are skint, they have no option but to hang around. I did, btw, take some shop workers into De Bonte Ko for a meal but they were so totally out of their depth I was dumb founded. All but one babe who really wanted to meet a foreigner. So there are different types hanging around there. I guess I always want the virginal apple that is just out of reach.

I read your post on the Pinay women too and it is also food for thought. The key thing is there is often a major age, income and cultural gap between the Pinay and the foreigner. What mutual friends have told me regarding this still befuddles my mind as I can’t get my head around such things as why the faithful women are faithful (can’t or won’t look at life beyond their main), or why they don’t try to trade up (or down in age).

There was that one lady I previously banged senseless who is now married to a pony tailed Yank. I would love to see the background check on her. He married her in week 2 of their romance and she has told mutual friends she is still on the market. It seems to be the only career move for many women there and my friends in M Park refer to it as a marriage of convenience. I could see such marriages becoming inconvenient very quickly.

Martians

11-09-06, 14:52

Martians just a few things regarding disease and why I caution all who venture to the "street". (aside: one native cure for the clap is sticking your dick in a coconut for about an hour).http://www.coconutresearchcenter.org/

Sure enough Spam Hog, that cure is listed here, as well as ones for hep c etc. It is impossible to go to Mindanao and not be impressed by the coco nuts. I did meet one Gen san beauty with big watermelons even Nibu would have envied. On a more serious note, the fact that such bs is peddled is a little frightening.

Thanks a lot for your ship hoppers' info. I do feel, however, you are beinga little unkind to the pros and amateurs of downtown Davao. CDO seems risque by comparison and, as you say, the other cities are off the wall for depravity. Which is fine if you drive carefully.

Harvey WB

11-09-06, 23:50

Spam Hog

11-10-06, 03:40

Before my 2000 trip, maybe in 1999, I read that Estrada was so infuriated by organizations trying to accurately track and report HIV and AIDs cases that he simply stopped the Philippine Government from collecting such data. Not sure of what has happened since he left office, but I would be suspect of any data provided by RP and would expect it to be more "flattering" (under reporting cases) to the government.

I don;t know why Estrada didn;t want data on STD's that guy had so many mistresses he was a candidate. Im not an authority on HIV/AIDES but my general impression is that there is not as much of it here in the Phils like there is in Thailand. Every so often the papers make a big deal out of some returning OFW who is HIV positive, I would also imagine that HIV is more common in Angeles than in anywhere else due to the more international population visiting, but for some reason Ghonnoreha/Clymidia and Syph seem to be common in Miindanao. The world health Organization did have an office in Davao and they are the ones who finance some of the HIV prevention methods and encourage condom distribution, they are also heavily involved in the Anti Dengue efforts that are epidemic in some regions in and around Davao. Plus you have a lot of "women's rights" groups like "Gabriella" active in Davao, however most of what they do is scream and protest. You have a lot of Missionaries and "Do gooder" orgs (including the red cross) that are also active and to my knowledge finance clinics and hand out condoms. You probably get more accurate stats from these orgs than you ever would from any Govt

A few years back when the SARS scare was in full swing there was heavy monitoring of the situation by Phils govt.

Regards

Spamhog

Midas Touch

11-20-06, 01:37

Whats happening to the Davao thread? Seems no one is posting anymore.

Cebu Local

11-21-06, 16:14

Whats happening to the Davao thread? Seems no one is posting anymore.Some Davao Regulars have gone on Vacation,Others have relocated to places like Cebu or Manila and as For Myself I have been spending more time out of the PI in China.My last 2 weeks were spent in Guangzhou,Wuhan and Xiamen.

Bad Santa

11-23-06, 12:19

Can you tell me which one is "the hotel"?

I'm heading down on Sunday - 2 gals from chat lining up. But not sure if it works as both are claiming to be cherries. Therefore want to keep my options open. Which hotel is the better one then, hasslefree and no PI_bushdrums: Casa Laeticia - or Apo, considering that I just want to walk out, get a chick, up in the room and here-we-go..

Thanks

I have stayed at Casa Letecia(thanks to GE) and was not disappointed. Apo View is a fine hotel but a tad more expensive than the Casa.... I've made a few friends at that place. PM me if you need more info.
BS

X Man

12-03-06, 15:50

I reserved the Presidential Suite at CL for the New Year Holidays. If anyone interesting is in town, let's get together.

X

X Man

12-08-06, 12:27

I changed my reservations at Casa Leticia. Too many bullshit stains on the carpet. X

X Man

12-10-06, 10:13

I'm sorry. I'm having trouble understanding this. It sounds really interesting, but I don't understand the part about eunich, nor JEN, nor....

Even if the resident in Room 501 (Pres Suite ) was having sex with four (4) sexy, young ladies, when my Jen knocked on his door and announced that "I would like you to attend a Champagne Party next door", no fucking way would anyone, save for a euniuch let it pass.

X Man

12-13-06, 13:15

Even more bad news coming out of the Philippines..this time from Tagum which is northeast of Davao City.

http://www.alertnet.org/thenews/newsdesk/MAN50013.htm

Cebu Local

12-17-06, 01:16

Ridder

12-17-06, 06:32

As many here know,I spend half my time in China now having recently married a Shanghainese girl.But I continue to work in Promoting PI-China Trade and Commerce.I will actually be with the City Delegation of Davao City led by Mayor Duterte,When they visit Nanning,Guangxi China this coming January8-11.Nanning is the Sister City of Davao.Likewise the Assistant City Admistrator Bobby Tseo will be with me in Kunmming,Yunnan China this January 12-16.So while I have not visited Davao,I still keep touch with my contacts there.Personally My new year will be spent at Jean George s Shanghai Branch on the Bund drinking fine champagne and dining on his imaginative French cuisine.Happy Holidays and Seasons Greetings to Team DavaoHi,,

I recently met a girl from cagayan de oro on the internet, and we have been chatting for 6 months now.

I have been thinking about going to the philipines to visit her, but I hear a lot of bad stuff about mindanao and the muslim rebels. So if you could help me with some information about cagayan de oro. Is it safe to go there and what should a first time visitor be aware of going to the Philipines.

I saw all the warnings about bargirls and not to take drink and food from strangers (kind of a given in my book) but especialy in areas like cagayan. Should I be extra carefull going out and things like that.

I hope you or someone that reads this will reply.

Ridder

Cebu Local

12-17-06, 15:09

I believe corrections are in order,I was in Davao during the Asean Tourism Forum where Crazier and I met Spam Hog with GE and Spam Hog at Hennys.Second I was back with the Philtoa Delegation during the Davao Travel show.Finally I was back for the third time this year when We did the presentation at Villa Margarita.I will not take this more public than this has to be.But Do a check when you get in and Hizzoner is going to be in Nanning on Jan 8-11 and the City admistrator will be in Kunnming on the 12th to 15th. I will be hooking up with the China boarders who will confirm this.Me a cheap Skate the following might Disagree.Sugoi,Mahku,Crazier,Tiger 1,Old Asia Hand,Dragon D,Cancontrib,Fire Dick,Bill Buxton..........Anyway He is entitled to his impression.False information here is My Challenge If Mayor Duterte is not in Nanning on January 8-12,I LEAVE the Philippine Boards PERMANENTLY.If He leaves on those dates,You owe me a Public apology on this board.Here is Another Challenge while you are at it,If I was not in China,How Did I hook up with all the Guangzhou,Zhuhai and Shanghai Mongers?????I hooked up with people in Macau,Zhuhai,Wuhan,Shanghai,Xiamen who can all confirm I was in their cities.
I am probably one of the most peaceful people here and I said I would stay out of your way.But you dont own the board.Jackson does..Lets watch over the next few days.I have set a lunch with Roy Almoro this coming wensday and.As the Chinese like to say,May you live in interesting times

Dashing Don

12-17-06, 17:24

I've been following the Slayers rantings about cheapskates on the Davao board for a while now. First, he blamed Mahku for this; now its Xman and CL. There seems to be a pattern forming.

Look, I met Mahku recently in Lima Peru, and cheapskate he's definitely not. There was an election going on that weekend and all sales of alcohol were banned, except, as it was explaind to me, in hotels with foreigners; in my case, the Marriott. Mahku and I and another guy consumed several of the hotel's mediocre wine at $50+ a bottle. Mahku paid more than his share. So lets put that 'cheapskate' bullshit to rest right now.

Now I like a good fight as much as the next guy, maybe more than most :), but it has to be fun. The PI isn't like Thailand with a million mongers present at any given time. PI mongers are a small group whose paths will eventually cross. Its ludicrous to fight like this.

Don

Finrod

12-17-06, 19:30

Let me say upfront that I have not made it to Davao yet. But I am one of those who has met CL in real life and corresponded a little bit with him. I found him to be one of the good guys, a straight up and very helpful fellow. So accusing him isn't cutting much ice with me or others who know him. Just my 2 pesos. Enjoy your holidays...

Cebu Local

12-18-06, 00:25

Thank you Guys and I would like to point out that IF I was a cheapskate,I would be Celebrating New Year in a 2nd or 3rd Rate City like Davao.Instead I will be with my Shanghainese Wife at Jean Georges,The Shanghai Branch of Michelin 3 Star Chef Jean Georges Vongerichten,The Place has wonderful Kumamoto Oysters that are paired with Champagne Jelly that sparkles in the mouth as it dissolves in your mouth Yummy and they pound scallops into silken noodles along with the Finest French Vintages.Davao Where s That????Simply does not compare.Jean Georges 4/F Three on the Bund,3 Zhongshan Dongyi Lu Shanghai 86-21-6321-7733. Why there???She used to work in the Building,DS Ask your Shanghai Babe What Level of Chinese Eat,Party or work as Managers at that Address.The New year Package is set at 1200 RMB a head,Thats about 150$ a head and the Shanghai Mongers will confirm that I will be there at New Years.Enjoy your Party in a Backwater Third World City,While I enjoy my New Year with my Wife in a Global City with a Michelin 3 star Chef,Happy Holidays

Cebu Local

12-19-06, 01:52

Actually I intend to take the high road and avoid fighting Since He is very much in touch with the movers and shakers,I will avoid tangling with him.I have lunch tommorow with a humble civil servant called Roy Almoro.He is the Executive Director of the Bu of Immigration and Deportation,I will make sure that you get a chance to meet him when you get into the PI.We can have a nice chat about topics of interest,But be careful about what we discuss,He has a thing against Sex Tourists and cyberporn.The "invitation" to visit will probably be served by BID people in Cebu or Davao at his preference

To the fellow from Japan
Yes I have his real name and Address office and home phone nos.Its amazing how fast Chinese Hackers can work.But Forum rules prohibit me from Sharing it or posting it.But let me check If a google earth shot of his house is OK.Maybe that might be ok.
DS
I just checked .Its already in the Davao Sunstar.Mayor Rodrigo Duterte is going to lead a Trade Investment Mission to Nanning China on January 8-12.So I guess you owe me an apology about posting false information.I will send you a postcard from China.Imagine the discussions We could have about Sex Tourists in "His City"while I am with them.Happy Holidays

Spam Hog

12-20-06, 06:25

Gentlemen, Gentlemen, cease fire PLEASE!

I know most of the Davao crowd personally, I like to think Im on good terms with all of them, interesting bunch of guys and I enjoy the ribald,semen flecked adventers of all who post here. But all this bickering??? And things are sounding serious here, lighten up!

Time for a story:
When I was an adolecent growing up in rural Pennsylvania circa early sixties I would go out in the "back 40" and build tree houses or cabins, having a secret cabin was COOL, it was a place where you and your friends could go hide from your parents, talk, loaf, but MOST importantly, look at and stash all your dirty books and if your were real cool, cigarettes. But you had to be careful, if somebodies older sister found out she would go running to Mom and tattle. "Those boys are up there smoking cirgarettes and looking at playboys again MOM!" But the real danger was from the older, bigger kids who would come by and steal all your dirty books, cigarettes and wreck the place and maybe kick your ass for not telling them. So you had to be careful who you said what to about the tree house.

Fastforward 42 years and here we have our own club house, complete with dirty pictures and dirty stories from around the world. A place to meet and bullshit, entertain and be entertained as well as learn and teach... BUT we gotta keep it kinda secret, MOM can't do nothing anymore but Big Sis is now some wacko organization like Gabriella or womens rights which abhores prostiution and male chauvanism in any form and they are running around the Phils and other Asian countries where mongers tread and VERY interested in what you do so maybe they can get you on some kind of "Sex tourism" rap.

Enter the "Big Kids" like US justice dept and all those in agencies in other countries changed with the enforcement of the UN's (May they burn in Hell) enforcement edicts. In case anyone is wondering I know for a FACT that the NBI monitors this website (along with a few others) they are mainly looking for kiddy porn, child prostiution etc but handing them someone's head for engaging in what we all do over here is with consenting female adults...well, it is gonna wreck the cabin and start a chain reaction, coz "we all guilty" of that one. I would hate to see anything make the papers, the Philippines with its sensationalistic tabloid style journalism would have a field day, I can see it now,

"foreigners have website to aide in explotation of Filipinas".

Now that that is out in the open Harken further ye who doth venture to the land of the "Middle Kingdom". About the end of September I picked up a newpaper (I beleive Cebu sun) which quoted a chinese (Shanghai) newspaper. The article dealt with the reaction of the chinese press and local citizenry to the published report of a "Blog" dedicated to finding, seducing and having sex with Chinese women, the article stated that the blog was run by "foreigners" and had many derogatory things to say about chinese women, mocked chinese men and often published pictures of the women nude or partically clothed. Several "online monikers" were quoted and the local Law enfordcment announced it had launched an investigation intot he matter to have those respobsible expelled if in China or blacklisted if not, to much cheerleading from various Chinese sources who named the Foreigners "scoundrels" and such, in short, if these guys are ever identified heads are gonna roll. I thought the might be talking about ISG but from the giost of the article I dont think it was.

Now I was gonna post something about it, warning all of you who venture to that Celesial land but I got wrapped up in my preparation to Visit Honk Kong Macao so It feel along the wayside.

Point is, whatever personal crap we might have against varios personalities from time to time, it is NOT worth getting so upset we have to wreck the secret tree house.

Life is a dilbert cartoon, learn to laugh at yourself.

regards to all

Spamhog

Cebu Local

12-20-06, 23:22

SergeantRay

12-21-06, 06:08

Spamhog,

Speaking of the Chinese blowing up over websites, this summer in the Philippines I read of a bust on cyberporn dens in Cebu. As usual, foreigners were portrayed as dirty, lecherous swine lusting over frail Filipinas (not mentioning they are separated by several thousand miles). Oh my God! Foreigners are looking at naked Filipinas on the Internet!

On the same day how many desperate, broke Filipinas are gang-banged by drunken Filipinos for centavos? Yet everyone is worked up into a frenzy over the Internet, which represents a huge improvement in working conditions for the typical Filipina sex worker. We shouldn't kid ourselves: the same government that doesn't give a crap about Chinese ("Chinoy") and Filipinos exploiting Filipinas in the most unconscionable ways is going to go ballistic over imagined Internet abuse, including this forum.

Spam Hog

12-21-06, 10:02

sh
consider it done,ceasefire from me.after all i wouldnt want the big kids demolishing our clubhouse over 1 person.funny you mentioned the story in shanghai.you know mrs cebu local is from shanghai.anyway that was correct,it raised a real ruckus and many people were embarassed when the authorities tracked them down and exposed their real life identities.funny you should mention gabriela,lisa masa their sector rep in congress and i meet quite often,since i am quite active in bantay bata,which is a childs right foundation.i am quite active in the anti **** field along with make a wish another organization i support also.while i support our hobby with legal aged consenting women,i draw the line with kids.anyway from what i know of her(cong.lisa masa),she could really make a mess of our clubhouse.she is extreme.we do not need people like that messing around.best regards

when gabriella and linkol filipina get involved in anti ****, child porn or child prostitution, they have my full support and they should from every member of this board, read an article in the cebu sun today about six filipina in sabah who were promised jobs and ended up working as gro's against their will, they escaped their employment and now the embassy is involved.
in this case i can't help but wonder why some of the aformention orgs aren''t there with treasure and time instead of wasting time running down some guy who wants to look at naked (adult) girls on a web site. plus you never see them mes with the japanese and their japiyuki enterprises or all the filipina who disappear in japan (snuff films) these orgs are financed heavily by the new york main office yet the seem to be more interested in prostesting the asian summit here in cebu. priorities, gentlemen, priorities.

regards

spamhog

Billy Ibrox

12-22-06, 01:14

Dragon Slayer,

How ya doin. Yer a great mon, producing all them wee bairns. How do you do it? It must be a great responsibility for you and the kid. I look forward to one of the future baptism parties, if not the baptism. Litle waifs don't need that religion.

Yer reports give me hope. If a big New York plodder can get hot babes so easily, there must be hope for all of us. I hope to hit town just after the New Year. I will miss the parties but I will look you up in OFlannagans. We'll have a blast. You can keep the wine but I dont mind sticky seconds on the pussy. Is the kid the same way? If so, I will hold my nose and take thirds. Still, if it is that easy to throw a leg over, you can have my leavings.

Fares should come doon in the new year so lets pack the condoms, the gel, the toys. And P-A-R-T-Y

Fastpiston

12-22-06, 12:37

i say, let's poll the filipina's and ask them who they would rather play with. "dirty" foreigners who just might support them or "dirty" pinoy's with no future?

guinness

here we go again..., article today from manila bulletin:

manila (reuters) - the united states said on friday it was pulling the plug on annual joint military exercises with the philippines next year in an escalating dispute over custody of a us marine convicted of [CodeWord125] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord125) a local woman.

the case of lance corporal daniel smith has become a major headache for the philippine government, which agrees with washington that under the terms of a visiting forces agreement (vfa) he should remain in us custody while he appeals.

but a local court has defied the government and sent the 21-year-old to a city jail, jeopardising the philippines' close security alliance with its former colonial master.

''until the philippine courts are able to ensure that the philippines is in full compliance with the vfa, it would not be prudent to bring additional troops here for exercises at this time,'' us embassy spokesman matthew lussenhop told reuters.

Mahku

12-23-06, 19:00

Spam Hog, thank you for your thoughtful, well-written appeal to all of us. You make a very good point about overreactions that could boomerang on us all. I think most of us here share your wish for a Davao thread that has useful exchange of information where all the members respect each other. I wish it were a matter as simple as "Now you boys be nice to each other." Unfortunately, experience has shown that this isn't the case.

A case in point: Since your attempt at peacemaking we've seen a conciliatory post by Cebu Local. We've also seen a lot of hate spewed out by Dragon Slayer. First, there was a general 'they're all losers' kind of post. Now he's throwing barbs in Henny's direction, a guy that has everybody's respect here.

So it's plain to see that DS aims to continue his antagonizing regardless of whether anyone responds to it or not. To be fair, this Billy Ibrox (who is probably a transitory troll or a long-term member hiding behind a new name) is pushing his buttons a bit. But anyone who says that we should just ignore him should remember the days of his feud with GoodEnough. GoodEnough hardly ever responded, but the board was subjected with endless attacks on GE for more than a year. Also, most recently I've been in South America minding my own business and enjoying the ladies here. I hadn't posted here or thought of here for over 2 months. Apparently, DS considered this an intolerable provocation. He launched into a 3 paragraph rant about stuff that happened years ago. Then, in an example of his twisted logic, he accuses me of 'not being able to let go.' He also slammed Cebu Local after a relatively innocuous post about going to Shanghai. Such unprovoked attacks by Dragon Slayer are too numerous to mention.

Members like X Man, Cebu Local, myself and most of the others who get mixed up here travel a lot and post useful information. We all meet other forum members frequently and get along with almost all of those we meet. But we do have in common the one guy we don't get along with. We aren't the ones who need to cease fire. We often go quiet for long periods while this guy whines about people incessantly. In other words, the stink mainly emmanates from one place. If the emmanator would stop emmanating all of this would die down right away.

I'm at a business lounge computer so I have to run for now. But I just throw open to all the members the question of what we should do about this. Dragon Slayer has earned the label Serial Anatagonist several times over. The list of members he has tangled with here is too long to even begin with for now. Perhaps it's way overdue for a 'Dragon Slayer in the Philippines' thread. There he could hate away to his heart's content and when the rest of us get bored we could look in on him from time to time. I'm open to any constructive ideas.

And Slayer, who's talking about which way to go on the street. I was talking about your comparison of those girls and the ones at GZ. Next time wait until you're sober and then respond.

Fastpiston

12-23-06, 19:53

Pals,

Any guy who drinks guinness is okay with me. I am the 6'4", 240#. The lady is the usual tiny woman. Just trying to make it easy to find me when I am in Cebu prior to hitting Davao. I even tried to bring my Son with me to Davao, in as much as his mother pulled duty New Year's Eve and New Year's Day at the Hospital. Her reply was one word, "NO". I asked again and got "NO". Reminded her who paid the bills and got a "Yes" to who pays the bills but still a solid "NO".

I guess it will be interesting in as much as she intends to bring him along with her on a night of shootings, stabbings, drunken accidents and burns from fireworks. Hope he does not start to cry when some stupid fuck comes in bleeding all over the place. The guy will most likely be told to shut up and wait until she gets my son quiet.

Dragon Slayer

DS,
Your postings are of no interest whatsoever to the vaste majority of ISG users as they give no useful information for the general users. An example is the one quoted. Do please go elsewhere if you want to get into posting fights.

Billy Ibrox

12-24-06, 03:23

Relax mon. Why ye having a fucking party fae anyways? To fuck Henny? Leave the mon earn a shilling and dannae be dragoooning him into yer "enjoy or else" Hogmanay, ye big fucking Tim.

So yer 6'4"? Since when? Doon the east end o Glasgow, the lads like jumpin big cunts like you. And its the same everywhere or has all yer life been under yer mammy's apron strings. Ye wannae last 5 minutes in Glasgow lad. They'd use yer guts as a swing for yer bairns. And as fer yer big giraffe of a nephew, ae pity the wee bugger. Most places like taking on big cunts and giving them a hiding. Nothing personal, just some jollies. The NYPD must have had great fun winding you up. Will ye nae relax before ye kil yerself Timmie?

And as fer all these bairns ye make in the Philippines, are they giraffes too? Coz if they are, the local lads will enjoy jumping them in the schoolyard and making haggis out ae them. Will ye think with yer big head fer a change Timmie?

What kind ae sorry fuck are ye that ye start crying if fellas cannae attend yer fucking party? Get a life. Put yer big head between the little legs o one of the Ground Zero lassies and report back here on what she tastes like. Put that big tongue ae yers up her little arse and tell us how she takes it. Have ye usd the tradesmon's entrance on any ae these lassies? How much can we get Jen faer? How much did she want and does she like Jock stick?

Give us the facts, ye big fucking Tim. Keep yer hair on too or yell give yerself a heart attack and yer loving nephew will have to dump the sod on ye. Yell nae be getting many rides when yer pushing up daisies. Peace oot!

Bilbo Baggins

12-25-06, 02:13

I've been folllowing this thread for many years and am almost convinced to retire to Davao because of the reports posted here mostly by Goodenough I miss his imformative and reflective posts as I see him as a thinking mans man.

There must be something redemptive about DS in real life if Goodenough is his friend even though they seem to be total opposites on this board.

I wouldnt want to ban DS myself I find his posts entertaining he is a character he seems to be a Disastrous Success. He travels, he has money, he has plenty of pussy and doesnt lack for height, everythiing I dont have but I dont envy him, reading his posts makes me glad I'm not him he can be vitriolic to his friends at times, we all have our disabilities.

If Goodenough, Spamhog and Cebu Local aren't posting here (no helpful informative posts) and you ban DS (no entertainment with information some times) then there is no point in coming here anymore. Billy Ibrox whoever he is seems to be a good foil for DS and is just as entertaining. Leave things as they are and let nature take its course.

I plan to be in Davao next year to scout the possibility of semi permanent living thanks to this board and I'll probably need a good nurse or two to take care of me. Things I can do intelligently now thanks to the good information of members here.

Cbea20

12-25-06, 04:43

[QUOTE=Trim Keeper]As of last night I was in the making of leaving a long and well deserved burial for DS's comments. But after reading Mahku and Fast's responses I won't. I would like to ask Jackson to consider not allowing any further posts by DS in the Davao section and as Mahku suggested, give him his own area where he can be king of comments because I have ALWAYS said he offers NOTHING to the board by antagonizing everyone with his attitude and comments about EVERYTHING in his pathetic life!

DS gives a nugget of useful info once in a while. If he were blogging, very few would read him. By dropping the occasional nugget here, he gets many of us wading through it, like digging through the city dump to recover a gold ring that you accidentally dropped in the trash.

Cebu Local

12-25-06, 05:07

In the spirit of the season,I would like to wish everyone a peaceful Prosperous New year.I would like to even say a few things in defence of DS in the Spirit of the Season.DS owns his own business and probably is wealthier then most people on the board and having met some of his women,I will concede that they are at least Above average in looks.So He has some brraging rights,BUT He is not the only wealthy guy on the boards,To cite an example Ace Gallant the leader of the Shanghai Gang owns his own Pharmacuetical company,Goes around Town in a Porsche with his Driver/Bodyguard.The Dude is worth many millions of dollars and a lot more humble.Furthermore there are many other Senior mongers here with MORE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN,just a lot more humble.Tiger 1 a HK based monger has some excellent Chinese,African and European Freebies that look a lot better then his women.One of My past Freebies is one of the drop dead gorgeous women you see on the Tourism Malaysia Ads on CNN and BBC.When was the last time DS did an International model as a Freebie????

He brags about his 150$ wines as if He is the only one who can drink them.I recently was invited to Dinner by another HK based Lurker monger who is the GM of of one of the finest Hotels in Hong Kong.We had the opportunity to have some Sauternes wine from Chateau d Yquem which is a Premier Grand Cru Status wine ranking it the highest rank in the world.The Chateau d Yquem 1976 was listed at 610 Euros or roughly 800$ a bottle.But We never cared to brag about drinking 800$ wine,So his showing off with 150$ champagne was kinda pathetic.Yes I think its about time the peasants of Davao revolted and demanded a vote,

Billy Ibrox

12-25-06, 10:13

On another thread here, you mentioned one of the rich Chinese dudes was using some fancy tracking software to get to know someone's ID. Could ye tell us mare about this software as I have a mate wants it for the good purpose ae catching bad cunts? Do ye need geeks to run it and support it? Mae mate asked me so here I am. Even the name would be a help.

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start of rant
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Dinnae worry about Baby Face here. This brotherhood exists to fuck women, all women. If Chinks waste their money on wine, like they do on Johnny Walker cough mixture, who gives a fuck? If ye've eaten those 2000 year old duck eggs, same deal. I'd prefer a few drams, a few beers and a good fight on a Saturday night than sitting around sipping wine and talking shit.

But horses faer courses. Yon Slayer will blow a fucking gasket the way he goes on. The Kids is sent to babysit him and apologise to the women for this stupid Tommie giraffe. He goes into a poor area, throws some money around and thorws women out the minute they ask fare a tanner. His treatment of Jen is enough to warrant a hiding.

And no I am not volunteering or suggesting it. But the big thick stupid **** is too much of a prick to see he puts his Henny and his Paddy the Pig pub in the firing line. What a fucking wanker. It would be a piece of cake to wreck those places. Timmie is too fucking thick to see his attitude is no help to those places at all. And if a restaaurant is waiting on an arsehole to crack open a chanpagne bottle once in a blue moon, it must be a kip.

He keeps telling us he is 6'4" and a 240 gorilla. I think he forces himself on the women like Iron Mike Tyson, who, to be fair, is not a giraffe. He should kearn some manners or as sure as fuck someone will put manners on him.

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I hope to be around late January. I will buy a few beers, no wine or cough mixture. And I don't sweat the small stuff so no worries if I buy you a beer and you don't buy one back
Cabu Local: If you could tell me the name of the sofware, that would be worth a dram or two of real drink.

HenryV

12-25-06, 19:14

Not again!

Can't we all just get along.

In the spirit of the season,I would like to wish everyone a peaceful Prosperous New year.I would like to even say a few things in defence of DS in the Spirit of the Season.DS owns his own business and probably is wealthier then most people on the board and having met some of his women,I will concede that they are at least Above average in looks.So He has some brraging rights,BUT He is not the only wealthy guy on the boards,To cite an example Ace Gallant the leader of the Shanghai Gang owns his own Pharmacuetical company,Goes around Town in a Porsche with his Driver/Bodyguard.The Dude is worth many millions of dollars and a lot more humble.Furthermore there are many other Senior mongers here with MORE BEAUTIFUL WOMEN,just a lot more humble.Tiger 1 a HK based monger has some excellent Chinese,African and European Freebies that look a lot better then his women.One of My past Freebies is one of the drop dead gorgeous women you see on the Tourism Malaysia Ads on CNN and BBC.When was the last time DS did an International model as a Freebie????

He brags about his 150$ wines as if He is the only one who can drink them.I recently was invited to Dinner by another HK based Lurker monger who is the GM of of one of the finest Hotels in Hong Kong.We had the opportunity to have some Sauternes wine from Chateau d Yquem which is a Premier Grand Cru Status wine ranking it the highest rank in the world.The Chateau d Yquem 1976 was listed at 610 Euros or roughly 800$ a bottle.But We never cared to brag about drinking 800$ wine,So his showing off with 150$ champagne was kinda pathetic.Yes I think its about time the peasants of Davao revolted and demanded a vote,

Cebu Local

12-26-06, 01:49

Not again!

Can't we all just get along.Ooops I got carried away.No more negative comments from me.Thanks for reminding me.

Spam Hog

12-26-06, 09:06

[QUOTE=Billy Ibrox]On another thread here, you mentioned one of the rich Chinese dudes was using some fancy tracking software to get to know someone's ID. Could ye tell us mare about this software as I have a mate wants it for the good purpose ae catching bad cunts? Do ye need geeks to run it and support it? Mae mate asked me so here I am. Even the name would be a help.

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To my knowledge, one can trace a URL conventionally with your own computer with out much fancy software. Now there are some anti spyware anti virus software (norton/watchdog) etc that will block an IP/URL trace or send it to a 'dummy" some of the private security outfits use this but it doesn;t take a geek to run it or install it. Several commercial courses in URL tracing/spyware are available in the US as well as elementary software that can bypass some firewalls.
BUT YE MUST HAVE A CARE LADDIE, FOR MANY A STATE HAS ENACTED A PRIVACY CLAUSE THAT MAKES THIS ON THE ORDER OF HACKING AND YE CAN BE GOALED FOR IT. Private investigators in the US run into this all the time. Since there are no rules in the rest of the world he with the biggest wallet can get away with whatever he wants. That is why i often use a commercial internet, as do many of the Lassies working the chat scams do.

Now for me own rant, the DS has a touch of class, thats right laddies, class. Ye DS throws fancy parties, hands out engraved invitations (the forst one I've every received in the Philippines)and stocks his hotel suite with designer chocolate, a suckling pig and well, the ladies like this with all the fawnin and dainties and with the Big fellow all dressed fine, shaved and lookin prosperous, not wearin 'is cargo shorts and walking in sandels like a monk, tis sure I've seen some of ye with me own eyes and the lasses laughin at yer for being BULINGIT (sloppy bum) ...well, everytime I see the Big Tim he has a different Mary, some are pretty, some are plain, some are Angeles from pearly gates without wings they are! And the lad has even posted pictures of such pretties for all to enjoy, enough to raise Iron in ye kilt boyo! Now that is a bit more than a few of ye have done while rantin and ravin. in plain (american) english. Ain't no need for him (or any of ye bretheren) to be muscling pussy if you talk decently, dress nice, treat the ladies gentlemanly and well, have a bit of class.

Now a boyo or two has raised the issue before of how such a great lump of a man can get that much of the fine favors of so many a Colleen, surely he must be spoutin' the blarney, but I've seen it with me own eyes I tell ye!

I know, the big lad gets down with some of ye and that is just a way he has, but to banish such a fellow who has contributed to many a wet dream with the publishing of his pretty lassies (and hopefully a few more) well...t'would be a loss methinks, a great loss.

May the Great Saint Patrick be protectin ye all.

Spamhog

Billy Ibrox

12-26-06, 12:57

EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted because the subject was not related to the purpose of this Forum, which is as follows:

The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange if information between men on the subject of finding women for sex.

Tout01

12-26-06, 16:23

Here is wishing you all the best of the season. I enjoyed two months in the Pearl River Delta - So. China with one week trip to Chengdu with a good friend, chinese monger of retirement age, a person I can barely keep up with and he is 30 years my senior.

I could hardly report a thing about that trip except I have seen several fuck villages and women for hire are around every corner and that if you dont speak Mandarin or have a tourist guide forget about it - if you do - you will have one heck of a great trip - the food, the entertainment, the infrastructure is superb.

Sorry but I could never find my way around never mind relay directions, except to say I never had so much tight pussy in my life.

Presently in Cebu for past month. I must say there is action aplently one only needs to show up if you are as guapo as I. If not, it don't really matter. F. Osmena circle is the place to stay and conduct operations.

As of late, I found a respectable lassie and we are like two peas in a pod.

I guess I must hang up my mongerer label for now. It is a wonder how five years can change a man. I was swinging with both balls last time around as per my previous report.

As to DS, I will meet him in Cebu at Olio and from there who knows. Much is said about him both ways, and I think beyond his bravado is a decent man. He sure as hell not scared to share his whereabouts nevermind my warnings against doing so as his character line herein is a bit over the top for most.

I just want to see him because WSG and this board has been such a big part of my fantasy life since 2003 but as I am in the game now, I hardly have time to get up for air - she is one sweet tasting filipina - but meeting DS is right up there with meeting the Pope.

DS I will sms you shortly when you touch down.

Cebu Local

12-27-06, 01:27

White Wolf

12-27-06, 08:50

Unlike some Trolls in ISG,DS provides useful information on Davao and Cebu.If he chooses to mix in his personal life,That is his prerogative though quite boring to some people.I think that we should not restrict or sanction DS, despite our differences I believe He is one of the more Colorful and Entertaining characters in the Philippine board.Personally though I think people would like see more pictures rather then stories of his ladies.Happy New year

I would second that. Although not all of DS posts are full of useful information you can always skip them if you don't want to read any stuff about his personal life. It's not like they are attacks or never contain any info about pussy at all. Happy New Year and peace to all and hope to be in Davao for the start of a great year.

Member #4491

01-02-07, 15:46

Spam Hog

01-03-07, 05:45

Hi all. My fist post ever.

I am in Davao right now. Sitting on a terrible connection and trying to scan all previous posts without much success.

Any info on a couple of bars / clubs / etc where I can meet some nice Davao girls is most welcome.

And of course places where I can get an erotic massage.

I am very new at this, so please be somewhat clear and understandable in your posts.

Muchas Gracias and happy New Year!

Br B.

One meets the "nice girls" in Davao's stores, waitresses or hanging around an internet, if its bars and such then try a few of these.

Roman Plaza spa, open 24 7 go in, look at the "fishbowl' chose a girl by number on her dress and go into the room and negotiate for masage and "Extra", usually around P1000 up.

Try Moonlight club, this place converted to a byot bar last year but may have converted back if rumor has it right. All of the girls went to work in a new place in Matina called "SIRENA", including spamhogs two GFs Nicole and her sister Heather who used to double team my Irish short sword with abandon, place is right aross from the Sabong arena in Matina. Any Cab driver knows these places.

If you are staying "downtown" near Apo view hotel etc, right around the corner is some seedy littel bars with rather lackluster girls but these places are so low rent and spontaneous they are fun, a real hoot if you got the proper attitude for it, Hot legs and Galleria. Ask for "Kimberly" from Kidapawan at the later, does a dance with these giant platform shoes and a great BBBJ

Used to live in Davao, moved out last year to Cebu, some of these places may have changed and Im sure the Girls are probably not there, but you can
Do a little hunting on your own at some of the KTVs, a lot near Victoria Mall and other in Sandawa, just ask a Cab driver to take you to a KTV in either of those places. Korkoran is one upscale KTV you might want to check out.

people are real nice in Davao, just be freindly, tip cabbies, hotel security guards, desk men, waiters, waiteresses with a few pesos and they can help you out.

Good luck and let us know what you find

Spamhog

Member #4491

01-03-07, 13:58

I thank you, Spam Hog.

And I found the list also so now I can decrypt those abbreviations :-)

Will be back.

Br B.

Member #4491

01-04-07, 05:21

Spam Hog

01-05-07, 09:24

BTW, guys, don't you get paranoid about catching some disease when you get blow jobs without protection?

Br B.

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

We've had several discussions on unprotected sex in this board and about same in Davao vs other areas. First, it is ALWYS advisible when mongering to "glove up" disease of course but pregnancy is another issue that can cause complications. The commercial sex workers in Davao are regularly tested if they carry a GRO license which they must to work a massage/bar etc. they are tested twice a week. Used to be on Tuesday and Friday, also a hint, if you want to checkout the conga line of girls, go up to Central bank on torres Ave just two block north and you will see a small clinic where the testing is done, you cna even pick up an off duty "fresh one".

But to get back to disease and Davao, there are FEW if any HIV or AIDES
among commerical sex workers, HOWEVER the rate of SYPHYLLIS was somewhat high, ghonerrea was about average. ALSO THE RATE OF INFECTION WAS HIGHER AMONG THE NOTORIOUS AHYAT BARKO (Ship hoppers) and street girls who work the piers and the corners on RECTO STREET, many of these girls (Lot of drug addicts among them) are infected from working the ships that come into town and the sailors carrying the disease from other ports.

From everything I have read, heard and discussed with the girls themselves,
you are more likely to become infected by unprotected sex in manila or Angeles, but still....best to put a helmet ont hat soldier!!!!!

Good luck

Spamhog

HenryV

01-05-07, 17:03

Permit me to weigh in on this one.

I have been visiting the PI since 1992. I have never had vaginal sex without a condom, I have never recieved a bj with a condom. 95% of the time I have limited my mongering to card carrying sex workers.

To sum it up, I have never cought anything more than a cold. That is not to say it cannot happen, however, with the right conduct you can stack the odds in your favor.

If you do some reading on this subject you will find the odds are far greater the blowjobee (joke only) will catch something.

We've had several discussions on unprotected sex in this board and about same in Davao vs other areas. First, it is ALWYS advisible when mongering to "glove up" disease of course but pregnancy is another issue that can cause complications. The commercial sex workers in Davao are regularly tested if they carry a GRO license which they must to work a massage/bar etc. they are tested twice a week. Used to be on Tuesday and Friday, also a hint, if you want to checkout the conga line of girls, go up to Central bank on torres Ave just two block north and you will see a small clinic where the testing is done, you cna even pick up an off duty "fresh one".

But to get back to disease and Davao, there are FEW if any HIV or AIDES
among commerical sex workers, HOWEVER the rate of SYPHYLLIS was somewhat high, ghonerrea was about average. ALSO THE RATE OF INFECTION WAS HIGHER AMONG THE NOTORIOUS AHYAT BARKO (Ship hoppers) and street girls who work the piers and the corners on RECTO STREET, many of these girls (Lot of drug addicts among them) are infected from working the ships that come into town and the sailors carrying the disease from other ports.

From everything I have read, heard and discussed with the girls themselves,
you are more likely to become infected by unprotected sex in manila or Angeles, but still....best to put a helmet ont hat soldier!!!!!

Good luck

Spamhog

Member #4491

01-06-07, 16:23

Interesting information. An somewhat a relive after last adventures with some Latino morenas 2 months ago. Saw the editors note. Sorry for misplacing the question.

Well, this trip it looks like I have to behave after all. My wife just won't let me out off sight. But I'll be back for some tight Pi pussy and then all of those tips will come in most handy. :-)

Br B.

Lucifer69

01-09-07, 06:17

This is an article from the Sun Star today. Far as I'm concerned, shoot on site. Asshole like this need to be "Saddamized".

HIV-positive man sexually active?
By Grace L. Plata

EXTRA caution is being asked of the public after City Hall was alerted to the presence of a foreigner said to be positive of the Human Immuno-deficiency Syndrome (HIV), the virus responsible for AIDS, who is sexually active and refuses to use protection in his encounters with local women.

The City Hall received e-mail reports from police intelligence regarding this Caucasian man who is said to be a long-term resident of the Philippines with a tourist or balikbayan visa but who does not have a work permit or a marriage contract to support his balikbayan visa.

The report said the man has at some periods stayed in Davao, Surigao, Butuan, Gingoog, and Cagayan de Oro.

The foreigner is described to be around 5'3" in height, in his mid-fifties, has brown eyes and a heavy body build, with short hair, and clean shaven. He has lots of tattoos and drives a motorcycle with a Philippine license.

The man is also said to be intelligent and manipulative with a history of pay-offs to the police and other Philippine authorities. Also, that he has a criminal record in his country.

Sightings of the said foreigner should be reported to the police and other local authorities.

Surfer

01-09-07, 20:33

Web Connect

01-11-07, 09:34

This is an article from the Sun Star today. Far as I'm concerned, shoot on site. Asshole like this need to be "Saddamized".

HIV-positive man sexually active?
By Grace L. Plata
Here is an attachment of the news article.

Spam Hog

01-11-07, 15:46

that description sure does sound like a certain member who has been given his own thread recently. Hope Mayor Duterte's boys take care of him real soon.

PS. Thanks to DS for the suggestion on Casa Leticia which I used as home base over the holidays. They no longer offer free airport pickup, however, as a new policy of 300Pisos per trip just started at the end of the year (I took a taxi instead for110P). Davao taxis are NOT like Manila (they use the meter without argument) so you do not need a hotel pickup at the airport. ApoView hotel, where I used to stay and spent the first night of this trip before moving to CL, charges 50 Piso per person for airport service.

Only other bummer was Toto restaurant upstairs (the Teppanyaki style place) was always closed. There is a good Filipino restaurant just around the corner past the burnt out house (see picture) but I forgot the exact name (Mencia's or similar). Just across from entrance to the Mall. For an internet cafe that is open at 6am for 20Piso per hour, continue to the corner then turn left and about halfway down the block on the left before the beauty salon you will find it. Free mineral water for customers too.

Surfer, if you reseach some of my (and DS too, although I dont speak for him) this was the gist of our posts,again, not mentioning any names. Any one who does the girls bareback is NOT our friend, anyone who does that irresponsibly is a MENACE, for this very reason, sowing a deadly dieease amongs us. I'm not sure who the guy is in the article, but from his description I remember seeing someone like that in Cebu just before Xmas, guy was short (Which made me notice him) stocky and had a lot of Tats, struck me as a "miniature biker" type. Every expat, monger and member of this board should hunt idiots like this down and make sure the immigration knows. Should he be caught in Davao you can imagine the penalty, Duterte has said time and again foreigners, expats are under his personal protection, woe to he who doesn't listen, however, the flip side is one must behave or woe be to ye.

Are you still in Davao? Curious, if you are ...think you might be able to checkout Sirena bar in Matina just across from the cockfight (sabong) arena? Curious if my old GF's Nicole and her sister are still working there, if they are I might suggest a double team.

Regards

Spamhog

Surfer

01-14-07, 03:12

Spam Hog

01-14-07, 08:55

SH: Thanks for the suggestion but unfortunately I am back in the waste (FREEZING in California this weekend). Will be back in Cebu just after Holy Week and would enjoy buying you a few cold ones if you are around. Also, do you have contact info for the rasta surf guide in Tandag? Definitely want to hook up with him (although April is flat season).

Gimme a PM when you get close to coming to Cebu,regarding a sit down. I will be going to Tandag/Surigao again in April but likely after Holy week(?????). I can get you the particulars of the guide, his digits et al, even have him meet you at the Airport etc. My understanding is that the surf is also up around that time.

Regards

Spamhog

Spam Hog

01-26-07, 07:31

Glad to see you are posting again, Davao board needs a shot of life, when are you gonna do the story on the "two bozo twins" and their entourage who showed up at your suite, I been waitin' for that.

Regards

Spamhog

X Man

01-26-07, 15:39

Davao is NOT a place to visit on a holiday. I once went there on a Mayday. Thankfully, I was patient, and rewards come to those who are patient.

X Man

01-29-07, 02:11

DS, I was a bit surprised to get your pm asking me why I didn't meet you in Davao or Cebu. Why would I want to meet you? I've never had the slightest desire to meet you.

BTW, I'm straight. Stop sending pm asking to meet me.

Have a wonderful day.

X

Sxxxx

01-29-07, 07:46

just returned few days ago from the philippines. spent three days in davao city. about my one hundredth trip there. the info already on this board will point you in the right direction regarding most matters. however , i will give you my impressions on this my most recent trip. might be of assistance to those who have yet to venture to davao city.

taxis from the airport are wanting. much better vehicles await you at a place like cebu airport but nevertheless the drivers in davao are very friendly nice guys. in all my trips to davao city never came across a bad taxi driver. they would have to be the best in the world , but their cars possibly the worst in the world. rattling doors , broken seats , mostly no air con. on the positive side the fares are even cheaper than cebu city.

apo view hotel has had some changes and not necessarily for the better. gone are their buffets. i am a bit of a buffet freak so disappointed with that. music type bar has been replaced with a regular but nice restaurant. had a look at the menu , wasnt for me.

went to de bonte koe restaurant in rizal st , often mentioned on this board. food is ok , waitresses and atmosphere the best. i can recommend this place for a feed , as a good feed in davao is hard to come by. tried o'flannagans before that , for a feed , but its not up to scratch. lovely personality girls working there , one by day , another by night , but food not to my liking. i see maurice has upgraded his tables with new tablecloths and bottle of wine on each table. trying to give it a sophisticated look , no doubt. his draft beer is the best in the philippines. worth a visit and chat with maurice and any other foreigners who might be at the bar. didnt see maurice himself this last trip. nice guy , nice host , but someone has to teach the kitchen staff how to cook western style food.

had two respectable girls via internet to keep me company , but checked out the usual places. just down from maurices is ground zero. a couple of cute girls there , bit young , and most if not all girls closely guarded by filipino male companions at the time. do not bet a lot on scoring at ground zero.

the girls sitting out on the footpath just down from casa leticia , behind maurices , looked a bit malnourished , poorly dressed and maybe one or two ****. gave them a pass.

rizal street is always a bit lively ten or eleven pm on. promenade is not a bad place to sit and drink beer and try your luck. i would say 90% of promenade girls are not available , the other 10% nothing much to look at. boasting type guys will tell you they score at promenade and surrounding mini bars regularly. do not believe it. anyway , i already had nice girls via the internet. a bit out of town there is the cabaguio complex with bar fine scene etc. prices there as with other places are high for what they are. same type of places in cebu city are better.

hot legs2 is in a run down area of town and an excuse to extract p2/300 ladies drinks from unsuspecting or desperate foreigners. was called stag club before. had a look around , better girls when it was stag. your drink is cheap , girls drinks not so. bar fines are crazy. better places can be found in cebu.

they are my personal impressions last trip. if you want more info pm me. the website i scored the internet girls on is asianeuro.com . davao is ok for a break from more active places like cebu city , angeles , la cafe manila.

X Man

01-29-07, 11:59

Thanks Joking for the Davao post. Although I was there over a year ago, my observations mesh with yours, with some minor exceptions.

I did manage to pick up a very attractive GRO at the small disco/bar at the front of Rizal Promenande. I forgot the name. I also had a real stunner off the street near Apo.

X

HenryV

01-29-07, 16:48

was in davao a few months ago, your report was "spot on."

just returned few days ago from the philippines. spent three days in davao city. about my one hundredth trip there. the info already on this board will point you in the right direction regarding most matters. however , i will give you my impressions on this my most recent trip. might be of assistance to those who have yet to venture to davao city.

taxis from the airport are wanting. much better vehicles await you at a place like cebu airport but nevertheless the drivers in davao are very friendly nice guys. in all my trips to davao city never came across a bad taxi driver. they would have to be the best in the world , but their cars possibly the worst in the world. rattling doors , broken seats , mostly no air con. on the positive side the fares are even cheaper than cebu city.

apo view hotel has had some changes and not necessarily for the better. gone are their buffets. i am a bit of a buffet freak so disappointed with that. music type bar has been replaced with a regular but nice restaurant. had a look at the menu , wasnt for me.

went to de bonte koe restaurant in rizal st , often mentioned on this board. food is ok , waitresses and atmosphere the best. i can recommend this place for a feed , as a good feed in davao is hard to come by. tried o'flannagans before that , for a feed , but its not up to scratch. lovely personality girls working there , one by day , another by night , but food not to my liking. i see maurice has upgraded his tables with new tablecloths and bottle of wine on each table. trying to give it a sophisticated look , no doubt. his draft beer is the best in the philippines. worth a visit and chat with maurice and any other foreigners who might be at the bar. didnt see maurice himself this last trip. nice guy , nice host , but someone has to teach the kitchen staff how to cook western style food.

had two respectable girls via internet to keep me company , but checked out the usual places. just down from maurices is ground zero. a couple of cute girls there , bit young , and most if not all girls closely guarded by filipino male companions at the time. do not bet a lot on scoring at ground zero.

the girls sitting out on the footpath just down from casa leticia , behind maurices , looked a bit malnourished , poorly dressed and maybe one or two ****. gave them a pass.

rizal street is always a bit lively ten or eleven pm on. promenade is not a bad place to sit and drink beer and try your luck. i would say 90% of promenade girls are not available , the other 10% nothing much to look at. boasting type guys will tell you they score at promenade and surrounding mini bars regularly. do not believe it. anyway , i already had nice girls via the internet. a bit out of town there is the cabaguio complex with bar fine scene etc. prices there as with other places are high for what they are. same type of places in cebu city are better.

hot legs2 is in a run down area of town and an excuse to extract p2/300 ladies drinks from unsuspecting or desperate foreigners. was called stag club before. had a look around , better girls when it was stag. your drink is cheap , girls drinks not so. bar fines are crazy. better places can be found in cebu.

they are my personal impressions last trip. if you want more info pm me. the website i scored the internet girls on is asianeuro.com . davao is ok for a break from more active places like cebu city , angeles , la cafe manila.