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Cunning Stunt
11-13-09, 04:11
i'm curious about the mechanics of how she pissed on your chest. did you lie in the tub with your feet propped up in the air while she sat on your chest or did you use additional props by bringing into the room an inflatable child's pool to keep the room from getting messy? i'm thinking about replicating the act with photos but just want to make sure i'm getting it right.

also, why didn't you let her [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) in your face? is that where you draw the line?

yup, i can help you there! as a rep002ite, i was a complete novice but the girl was an experienced hand, well, bladder really. after a few hesitant starts i first emptied my bladder on her. it is amazingly difficult thing to do. we tend to be pre-conditioned by life to avoid going around pissing on other people (literally anyway) and young ladies in particular. so, initially, my urethra locked shut, but i had been drinking beer so a full bladder and natural excretory urges finally overcame my timidity. not on her face but on her tits; even she balked at face pissing.

then, it was my turn. i lay part supine on the floor and she semi-squatted over me. as i said this girl was a pissing sensei so she had no urinary hesitations and quickly voided a gusher of warm, straw coloured lemonade all over my chest and stomach. some splashed in my face. i do actually have pictures and video of the event but, for obvious reasons, will not be posting anytime soon. i was 3summing that day so i had a rather tasty, naked camerawoman filming and snapping photo’s of the event; which added immensely to the surreal eroticism of the event.

this, of course, all took place in the bathroom.

i am not really particularly interested in these excretory games (and rep001 players are the most disgusting fuckers on earth) but it was a quite an turn on for me as a one off. but not something that i would enjoy repeating at frequent intervals. however it was yet another tick off of my to-do list which is now pretty much full.

Jambo
11-13-09, 06:01
its nice to add a sm aspect to [CodeWord118] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord118). when a girl says she is going to the cr, i order her to "wait" and ask permission later, so i know she is full. she must ask correctly, as in "may i go to the cr now please sir?". no you may not, you may ask again later, now have another beer.

i like to see her [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on command. once i had a girl [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in a bowl, and have had them [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in the shower. perhaps another time i will have her bend over and try to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) back on my cock as i stand behind her. then it would be my fantasy to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) over her ass and enter her.

as a general rule, for girls i know well, they must ask permission before they may cum as well. its a handy way for me to tell when they are cumming, or pretending to. (oh the word "cumming" is in the firefox dictionary lol i misspelled and ff corrected)

the shock of doing something like that for the first time is a turn on for certain kinds of girls. but a tip, if they don't like to swallow cum, its a good bet they don't want you pissing on them lol.

this would be off-topic, but i did [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) on a forward-thinking pinay in manila a couple of years ago, so there!

FreebieFan
11-16-09, 09:05
Boldly Go.

Incidentaly, I was in Market2 today, and noticed plenty of seemingly available girls wandering around looking for someone to give them an early Xmas present: D. It is probably a good place for mall hunting at this time of year. I arrived in Market Market last week, ready to meet up with Friend Number 1. She was supposed to arrive at 6, and I got there at 5. 30 as wanted to buy some booze etc.

I've always enjoyed being back in Manila, and like smiling at ladies as way og getting warmed up and acclimatized.

So I'm just arriving in Market Market, and the VERY first gal I see, has a big smile, looking right at me. I return the smile and she walks past. I turn around and so does she. So I ask her to join me, and we go have a beer together. I'm mindful that Frienbd Number 1 will be arriving soon. Me and smiling girl are getting on very well, so I get her numbers, and promise to see her again. Never did of course, but was great to see a happy slim young Filipina in tight t shirt as my " welcome back to Philippines".

Mahal
11-17-09, 19:33
For my last night in MNL decided to have dinner at Cafe Havana and watch what was going on before going to EDSA. A weeks in the Phils has left me sleepless but exhausted and with a constant urge to find more pussy, in other words I am addicted.

Many girls sitting at the tables but they looked so familiar, as if they were the same ones that had been sitting there at my last visit a couple months ago. 2 girls in black dresses seated across from Cafe Havana in the public area caught my eyes. They were contantly looking at me so I got up and invited them to join me for a drink.

Mae & Jane's story, which sounded credible, was that they are single girls from Cebu, who have known each other since childhood and work as salesgirls at SM Mall while waiting for their visa to Japan where they are going to be "entertainers". They come to Cafe Havana very rarely to supplement their income.

I thought it would be nice to have 2 girls and presumably non-pro on my last night so I took them back to my hotel after we had a couple drinks.

Jane is nice, petite 22 years old no kids, firm body and a nice smile. Mae is simply a pain in the butt I almost kicked her out in the middle of the session but she understood I was not kidding and made an effort.

Once we got to the room, had a couple glasses of wine and Mae, of course, asked how much money I was going to give them. Told her it depends on what she was going to give me :) They were trying to get 3K each, supposedly to pay their rent tomorrow. I did not like that conversation but OK, this is business for them so, fine.

Turned out both girls were shy and in fact Mae was useless. she tried to give me a CBJ, then understood she was going to get kicked out of my room and changed her mind back to BBBJ. But she was all the time complaining and not at all involved.

In the times that I have been to Manila I have enjoyed going to Cafe Havana because it is in an upscale area and there is plenty of choices. But in reality I have never had a good time with a girl from Cafa Havana, they always end up not being good in bed or being in a hurry to leave.

Next time I will stick with the Pros and go EDSA.

Wicked Roger
11-20-09, 05:17
After and during my R&R with the ladies I visited a few bars with a friend who lives in Manila, his girlfriend is an ex bar girl and is there well known in Burgos. In general life is very quiet in Burgos, nowhere near as busy as when I first came here 3 years ago. Girls always friendly and welcoming and having 5-8 girls all touch you chat and be nice is very flattering but also a sign of how much harder it is for the girls make money

Went to Rogues, High Heels, Flamingos and Jools. Only Jools was busy, the ‘cabaret’ is worth going to see as the dancers put a lot of effort into the stage show and it is fun. The others all very quiet with few punters. Sad to see

Spoke with the mamasan/manager of one of the bars where the cutest girl was the waitress.. But I already had my fill and was tired as had arrived after an overnight from the UAE.. But definitely one for tomorrow....

Mamasan was telling me how the punters are not coming and they had tried lowering BFs elsewhere on Burgos but still no takers as so few guys coming. And many who come now have regulars so why bother with the bar scene. Depressing really. At one only 3 guys in the bar, me, my mate (who has a regular live in girlfriend and another guys half pissed groping one of the girls in a dark cornet...why do that when there were VIP rooms/booths available...later she found an open condom packet and was not a happy bunny

Yes I had my dick stroked expertly by one of the girls but no one could see it as so many hanging around, but if I want more I would have gone to a booth etc

Will be visiting a few more bars Saturday as a good monger from Dubai (Groin Strain) is visiting for a few days work – wifey thinks he will be working flat out 24/7 for 3 days...some hope. So we will visit the bars together and show him LA Café and Havana Cafe if time permits.

But in general, very quiet, maybe as mid week, but also there are not the numbers coming to the bars. Or maybe they go elsewhere where BFs cheaper, drinks cheaper etc. All 3 I suspect but the girls on Burgos are the ones who really feel the pain.

FreebieFan
11-20-09, 07:47
Why do that when there were VIP rooms/booths available. Later she found an open condom packet and was not a happy bu.Principal reason one would suspect is that the punter wanted his jollies but didn't want to buy the 5 drink minimum that is imposed in most places.

In some its 6 or 7.

Had a fuuny experience there a few trips back in High Heels, or Montana I think. The day before I had had a girl in upstairs VIP room for 3 drinks charge, plus the 2 drinks I had already bought her.

The next day, the very same stone faced cold hearted mamasan insisted it was 6 drinks minimum and that she had not seen me the day before, even tho I negotitated the drinks deal with her.

If I was the bar owner employing these mad people who damage my business, I guess they would be looking for new jobs very soon!

Chocha Monger
11-20-09, 16:40
Mamasan was telling me how the punters are not coming and they had tried lowering BFs elsewhere on Burgos but still no takers as so few guys coming. And many who come now have regulars so why bother with the bar scene.
Amazing! They fucked the goose that laid the golden eggs to death and now they wonder why there are no longer any golden eggs? These mamasans fail to realize when they charge outrageous prices and set high drink minimums punters will go elsewhere eventually. They may have been able to get away with it before this sort of information became widely available on the internet but now all it takes are a few reports for punters to move on. Perhaps, there were no takers because Burgos has acquired a reputation for over priced pussy that can be had elsewhere for a lot cheaper. Those greedy mamasans deserve to go out of business.

Guy Wif Attitude
11-21-09, 08:01
makati – night 1

even though i enjoy ac a lot, still makati nightlife is by far the better in my opinion. started off at havana on wednesday nite. a bit quiet with no real young talent – mainly older types but this is typical in the middle of the week. bumped into an old flame (who was the hottest girl in havana on that nite) and her 3 friends. this is the kind of game i like, suddenly the field opens up when all their friends come to the table to say hi. i have too much history with this girl so i don't want to go with her again even though she is an absolute stunner no doubt – besides i would rather go drinking with her and leverage off her mates hehe. a friend of a chick who i met at havana last trip texts me – we keep in touch on friendster. she is 21 y/o ex burgos bargirl – i love an ex bargirl, they know how to satisfy a guy. she brings her young cousin who was 18 and was pretty hot herself. anyway, there was no one else in havana who caught my eye, so take the 2 girls upstairs to absinthe. great place with a great dj. apart from us, there is only a group of 8 local guys and 1 chick. 2 of the guys came to ask me if they could dance with the girls. i said go ahead bro. they struck out, and asked me what sort of guys they like. i told them that they prefer koreans or japanese – which i know is true for exbargirl. this struck a bad chord and they said 'why do all the girls like korean? ' i said i don't know. not wanting to open up a can of worms. hehe. anyway sent the cousin home because she didn't have id and she looked suspiciously **** i had no inclination to spend the nite in the slammer and get rogered by a bloke called pedro anyway took the exbargirl back to the hotel. sex was average but she was hot enough to look at so it didn't take much to get me off. 2 rounds but in the morning she resisted for a 3rd. we joked and laughed a lot the whole day so it was a good nite all round. sent her home at 6pm with $2k tip and told her that i had other things to do that nite. more tales from the darkside to come.

Wicked Roger
11-22-09, 01:24
When doing FRs I try to keep them short as possible as we all know what we are doing when we monger but there are varying degrees of fun and different varieties

Day 2 and 3 followed much of the first night, including meeting up with my good mate Groin Strain from the UAE who was visiting the Philippines for the first time (yes a virgin :D) for work and Flag338 who as here for a few days fun. Nice guy, lots of laughs, similar tastes and happy to help him when he asked – safe travel Fslag338 and we will be in touch again

Day 2 was really about catching up with girls who I met previously using DIA, ones who had promised much more than just coffee and a kiss. One turned up the other bailed but that is par for the course here so am not complaining as there are always alternatives in the Philippines and not very far from your hotel. The one that did come was asked before she arrived what present she had for me (as I has some for her ;)) and she boldly replied “my shaved pussy, mouth and virgin ass: .....lovely jubbly...just the type of response that makes me as wicked as I am :)

And sure enough this 25 year old ass virgin arrives, looking very nice, freshly shaved she announces and we proceed with the normal formalities being a nice long Greek session is started and her education into a 3 holer is complete – and she proudly tells me (as other have done in the past) she is 3 holer (hope she does not tell her mother!!).

As the other one bailed out, and Groin Strain had arrived, met up with him and we went to Havana Cafe. Now here is GS, a long time UAE monger, where nothing much surprises him and he has known me and my habits ;), sitting in Havana Cafe mouth open at the sight of a lot of women, mainly quite sexy. I spot a table of 4 girls, cute, short skirts and nice figures, and buy them a round (they were drinking water but had a taste for Baileys).

We join them and GS in instantly attracted to 2 and as a good mate I take the other two, one of whom bails later but again plenty of choice. All under 25(ish), one a teacher, others looking for work and one boldly stating she works Havana...ie white guys, older, with cash naturally.

GS goes back to his hotel (he can FR later but somewhat of a mix up or something and the one he really fancied went home early). I had Jane with me, probably the least pretty of the 4 (bit all pretty) but then as we know they work harder to please and she sure did please. Excellent BBBJ and when she sat on my for the umpteenth time we were having some serious fun..and yet another Greek inductee after some persuasion and a review of my accessories plus the mandatory trial run. As a tip OI always find it useful; to have a butt plug or handy n trips as it helps ease the girl’s nerves for first time Greek inductees :D

More of the same on the morning, woken up with a lovely BBBJ and an unhurried session, shower together, more BBBJ (I do like that in the shower) and then she left. I went back to sleep to recharge for the next meeting with my massage lady ....yummy

GWA PM me if you like to meet up - were you in Havana Friday night?

Wicked Roger
11-22-09, 01:47
now day 3 was a fun day. as it turned out a lot of fun.

massage girl, a friend, not a p4p bar girl (see pictures in the relevant section) who loves girls, greek, group etc came and gave me another ‘massage’ all for a 1000 pesos (and i replenish her battery stocks – she has 2 vibrators). we get along so well that if she did not have a serious boyfriend in europe she could easier be my girlfriend, but the guy does sent cash, pays the rent, while at the same time acting like an a**hole (he words not mine). l:oyalty is one of those strange things in filipina culture...he acts like a dick, but as he sends her cash each month and for many years she can’t lose that economic lifeline. understandable...and yet she stills sees me and we have an unhurried shagging from late morning including greek (she loves her toys), daty bbbj etc she won’t cim but that is fine with me.

after this was chatting cebu girl who is coming up for a week of fun with me and making sure she bring the right clothes (ie not many as i have a few for her ;))

the catch up with gs again and take him to burgos. a philippine virgin needs to see the bars and experience things so he remembers them when back in dubai and wants to return as fast as possible. great meal at handle bar again, chart with some of the local expats and then to jools for the cabaret show where we are both accosted by a number of lovelies. following that high heels where i ask the mamasan to make sure she gets him into the naughty corner. which she does, with a lovely cuties virtually naked sitting on his lap...this does not happen in dubai..rattlesnake, kubu, regal york et al (dubai clubs) have a lot to learn imho :d

countless drinks later and after being stroked by 3/3 girls, seen girls do shots of each other’s nipples, had a real, sexy spinner play with my todger..departs with the girl from the naughty corner though again she stayed but then went after 1 pop...will speak to mamasan about her...he will fr later). i went to havana cafe again to meet up with fslag338 who had sms me asking about a contact with a slim body but nice rack...name is jency an old friend and a trusted girl who i can call upon.
havana was busy, despite the earlier rain. some nice girls there not as many stunners, recognised a few ladies with their husbands ...girl who play dia maybe hubbie knows, but i did not bother to go and say. noted and will send a nice email to them instead ;). music was good, people dancing all over the place and fslag338 seemed happy.

eventually, traffic permitting jency arrives with my good friend yxeslhady. quick introductions and back to the hotel, i hopped out at mine as next door and he went to the dusit with the ladies for a feed first then time with jency. will find out how it goes later.

me – i went home alone...as i had cebu girl arriving next morning and she will [CodeWord123] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord123) me so best i save my energy (well am an old man) and she expects me to have a lot of load for her mouth and ass (well so she said in a text). as i got into the room around 2am received a text from the girls last night sitting in conways (shangri la) asking if i wanted to come for drink (in other words come and take us). i did think about it but i was going to be awkae 5 hours later saved my bed for my 18 year old cutie who is proud she is a 3 holer and loves to be spanked. this visit she learns more naughty things :d..but that is for another fr

Guy Wif Attitude
11-22-09, 10:11
Hi WR, please PM me, I'm unable to at the moment.

Felt like checking out some new places. A girl at Havana said to check out the Ascend at the Fort so that's where I headed. 500 peso entrance which included 2 drinks so was ok. Positioned myself at the bar to check out the scene. So this is how the rich locals party! No hookers but many attractive rich looking birds. Tried to chat up a young expat aussie chick, she said her family had been here for 12 years. She was happy to chat but it wasn't easy to break into her 'group' of friends, in hindsight I should have gone for the number first but oh well. Shit happens. Retracted back to the bar. Friendly group of 4 local guys late 20s/early 30s (BPO staff) started chatting. We talked about the industry (which I am also familiar with) and they seemed to have a bit of 'swagger' so we decided to work the magic with the ladies, hehe. Went over to a group of mid 30s chicks. One who said she was a ramp model was having her 35th birthday, she was into me but she was too skinny for my liking, so danced for a while then moved on. Tried to break into a couple of more circles but nothing really worked. The ratio of guys to girls by this stage was 2 to 1 – OMG this was like an aussie niteclub! Hehe. Music was top notch – the DJs in Philz are fantastic. Kept chatting but nothing clicked – girls were super picky and no-one was hooking up with anyone on the dancefloor except the couples who came together. A girl started looking at me and smiling so I went up to her and started grinding on her. 2 mins later my friends arrived and said, watch out, she is a ladyboy! WTF? She looked anything but a ladyboy – I was fooled and I would never have been able to tell. Apparently my 'gaydar' wasn't working anymore, hehe. Shit that was a close call.

2 hours later they said they would take me to a local place so we went to a Quezon city niteclub. Not one foreigner in this large but modern club. Lots of cute girls and I started chatting but was difficult as their English wasn't good at all. Spotted a tall cute girl looking at me, I told my friend she was cute. He said, let me ask first. He asked the bouncer whether she was a girl. The bouncer said 'NEGATIVE'. Hehe OMG another close call this is getting crazy I thought I could pick a ladyboy but this was crazy man.

Went to another Filipino hangout in Quezon city where we bought breakfast – good chats with the guys, was a great nite out (no girl though!).

Didn't feel intimidated at all in the Filipino joints. I guess I kept it safe though and didn't risk hitting on girls that may have had a partner there thoroughly recommend hangin out in the Fort area, and in quezon city clubs but use basic common sense at all times.

GWA out.

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Wicked Roger
11-23-09, 06:58
Hi GWA, tried to PM bui you are set to not receive. Am AC and Batangas until Friday when am back in Manila. If you can get the PM working by then let me know as cant give email or contact numbers via the forum

Thanks

Spokaneman35
12-04-09, 06:25
I am looking for a good hotel right be Burgos.

Wicked Roger
12-04-09, 12:17
S35

A quick RTFF will suffice to show you that Oxford Suites is right in the middle and a favourite palce of many mongers. Or try Makati Palace (it is not a palace IMHO_), Best Western or City Gardens.

Devils 1
12-05-09, 00:44
I am looking for a good hotel right be Burgos.Try a place called Avenue or A Venue. kind of hard to find on the web, but it is right across Makati ave from Burgos. Nice place, brand new. cost is about $65 per night or 3000 php.

Robbaf
12-07-09, 22:58
I was in Burgos last Sunday and as I walked past Pussycats a girl was standing with the curtain open and waved me in. Her name is Lhea and she is 19 years old. She told me it was her first day (confirmed by her Momma) and she was all over me within one minute of entering the club. She is around a 7, but her body is a smoking "10". I told her and the momma that I have been around the Philippines too long to know a first day bar girl. I asked her what bar did she work before here and she said she came off the farm. I checked her hands and they were smooth as a baby's ass.

The waitress came over and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink, Happy Hour price of 195P and of course as she is sitting on my lap I agree. She drank her drink in one minute and then the waitress comes back over and asked if she can have another drink. I looked at the girl and ask her can I take you out? She asked me What??? Barfine?? and I told her yes barfine and she told me that she didn't barfine, her job was to get drinks and she didn't like sex. I didn't want to take her, I just wanted to see her reaction to the question.

I asked her why she was in a sex bar if she didn't like sex and I think that she was a drink S**T. She looked at me and didn't know what to say. I told her to call her momma over and she begged me not to talk to her momma, but I did and I told her that I thought she needed to get Lhea to understand what business she is in.

I paid my chit and went next door to Hollywood and met Chevy. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but she put on a show and dared me to take her. WOW, no regrets here.

FreebieFan
12-08-09, 01:08
Try a place called Avenue or A Venue. kind of hard to find on the web, but it is right across Makati ave from Burgos. Nice place, brand new. cost is about $65 per night or 3000 php.Right there on Asia Rooms and Agoda. VERY easy to find. 2 years old now.

Request rooms away from the disco as it stays loud with bass beat booming in your room till 3-4am. Stayed there on a few ocassions when Ms Pampanga visits me.

Muff Eater
12-08-09, 08:12
Nice pics Robbaf! How much was the BF at Hollywood?

Jools was 3900P last month, drinks were 390P.


I was in Burgos last Sunday and as I walked past Pussycats a girl was standing with the curtain open and waved me in. Her name is Lhea and she is 19 years old. She told me it was her first day (confirmed by her Momma) and she was all over me within one minute of entering the club. She is around a 7, but her body is a smoking "10". I told her and the momma that I have been around the Philippines too long to know a first day bar girl. I asked her what bar did she work before here and she said she came off the farm. I checked her hands and they were smooth as a baby's ass.

The waitress came over and asked if I wanted to buy her a drink, Happy Hour price of 195P and of course as she is sitting on my lap I agree. She drank her drink in one minute and then the waitress comes back over and asked if she can have another drink. I looked at the girl and ask her can I take you out? She asked me What??? Barfine?? and I told her yes barfine and she told me that she didn't barfine, her job was to get drinks and she didn't like sex. I didn't want to take her, I just wanted to see her reaction to the question.

I asked her why she was in a sex bar if she didn't like sex and I think that she was a drink S**T. She looked at me and didn't know what to say. I told her to call her momma over and she begged me not to talk to her momma, but I did and I told her that I thought she needed to get Lhea to understand what business she is in.

I paid my chit and went next door to Hollywood and met Chevy. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but she put on a show and dared me to take her. WOW, no regrets here.

Nvslim
12-08-09, 09:34
I paid my chit and went next door to Hollywood and met Chevy. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but she put on a show and dared me to take her. WOW, no regrets here.



Fine looking young lady. She would not have to dare me more than a couple of time.

Slim

Wicked Roger
12-11-09, 17:07
A first for me…..telling taxi drivers the direction in Makati/Manila

Now I don’t live there, yes I go there a few times and I can remember the routes easily but…..finding places in Burgos should be simple for a wizened taxi driver..well his taxi was so beat up the elastic band was nearly broken :) But he really had no idea about Burgos or where it was but such a nice old chap I showed him the way and girl with me thought I was so kind…as I did not get cross/angry was polite and so calm. So she thought even more nice things about (is that possible?/ - rhetorical question for anyone thinking of replying..)

This did not happen once it happened 2 more times…once to show the man the way to Terminal 3 (the newly opened terminal – very nice from I what I saw) and then to Mall of Asia!!

Now they may think am a stupid old man and tourist (which is true..well at least one of them is a fair statement) but still the meter runs and as long as I don’t think he is seriously taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) I will be kind. Unlike one taxi driver who asked for 150 pesos from the Dusit to Handlebar (Burgos) when I know it is around 40 pesos at the particular time of night…so I got out and found another taxi.

Member #3428
12-12-09, 05:31
I paid my chit and went next door to Hollywood and met Chevy. I wasn't looking for a hookup, but she put on a show and dared me to take her. WOW, no regrets here.

Just for clarification her name is Chelvie and she's worked for about two weeks mostly in day at Hollywood :D

Lakeside
12-24-09, 10:33
Amazing! They fucked the goose that laid the golden eggs to death and now they wonder why there are no longer any golden eggs? These mamasans fail to realize when they charge outrageous prices and set high drink minimums punters will go elsewhere eventually. They may have been able to get away with it before this sort of information became widely available on the internet but now all it takes are a few reports for punters to move on. Perhaps, there were no takers because Burgos has acquired a reputation for over priced pussy that can be had elsewhere for a lot cheaper. Those greedy mamasans deserve to go out of business.It is true that they really have fucked the business in Burgos street with overpriced BF and ladies drinks. The only place still beeing reasonable is Rogues.

Starchild2012
12-25-09, 06:39
A first for me…..telling taxi drivers the direction in Makati/Manila

Now I don’t live there, yes I go there a few times and I can remember the routes easily but…..finding places in Burgos should be simple for a wizened taxi driver..well his taxi was so beat up the elastic band was nearly broken :) But he really had no idea about Burgos or where it was but such a nice old chap I showed him the way and girl with me thought I was so kind…as I did not get cross/angry was polite and so calm. So she thought even more nice things about (is that possible?/ - rhetorical question for anyone thinking of replying..)

This did not happen once it happened 2 more times…once to show the man the way to Terminal 3 (the newly opened terminal – very nice from I what I saw) and then to Mall of Asia!!

Now they may think am a stupid old man and tourist (which is true..well at least one of them is a fair statement) but still the meter runs and as long as I don’t think he is seriously taking the [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) I will be kind. Unlike one taxi driver who asked for 150 pesos from the Dusit to Handlebar (Burgos) when I know it is around 40 pesos at the particular time of night…so I got out and found another taxi.

Its a great reminder that 8 out of 10 manila taxi drivers are screwed up and once in a while we come across someone nice.

BUT, the important point to remember is wicked rogers taxi driver seems to be new in town as he was finding it hard to locate popular places. He will soon learn the trick of the trade and will be as usual as others.

As i have said earlier, be very carefull of manila taxi drivers, they don't show respect nor switch on the meter, if they do, it would be tapped on, give exact change to the drivers, never give tip to them, always talk to them in high tone voice, make small talk to them while on the way and make sure they know that WHO IS THE BOSS !!.

Be assertive, fake show that you are more bad ass than he is......it all adds up in the end, never let your guard down thinking i had a good taxi ride the last time, this would be good also.

here is an eye opener article on how bad the situation gets during this time of the year.

The Department of Transportation and Communications (DoTC) chief has personally given his mobile number in case you have some trouble with taxi.

09189447951

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/234628/beware-taxis-with-flawed-meters-lto-cautions-public

Be aware and be safe this x'mas and new year.

Happy Holidays

GoodEnough
12-25-09, 10:28
Last week I was in Manila, and took a "coupon" taxi from Terminal 2 to the Dusit. There's no rate negotiation and no meter since the standard rate is Php330. I happened to have a very articulate driver, who was explaining to me that he was fairly new to the job, and was following in the footsteps of his brother, who drove a similar taxi for a while and, using that experience, managed to land a driving job in one of the Emirates. He also told me that he didn't understand how anyone could do the airport taxi job for long, since the drivers make only a 10% commission--a statement I was able to verify with one of the drivers who works for the car service at the Dusit. My airport taxi driver also told me that he had been waiting two hours until it was his turn for a fare.

Let's see, he made all of Php33 from the ride he gave me. That's about $.70 at today's exchange rate. Assume he gets 4-5 fares a night and he's looking at a gross wage of about $3.50 or so. Granted, he gets more for longer hauls, but then it also takes him longer to return to the airport for his next fare.

For the drivers of regular taxis, I would imagine that after paying the taxi rental and the gas, they don't make much more, or perhaps even less on a bad night. Given starvation incomes and what they perceive as rich tourists, is is really any wonder that they try to make as much money as possible from the unsuspecting? It's amazing how easy it is to get self righteous over getting "ripped off" for maybe $1 by those who willingly shell out Php350 or more for watered down ladies drinks.

GE

Robbaf
12-30-09, 22:36
Just for clarification her name is Chelvie and she's worked for about two weeks mostly in day at Hollywood :D
I was in the club last weekend and low and below her friend jumps me as I sit down, before I got a drink and told me that someone here showed her the pictures that I posted. Of course I got mad and she came close to telling me his name and I would of paid her a 1000P to get his name.

This is my third time that someone has went back to a girl and told them that they saw her pictures on the internet:(

I thought this forum was to share info and post pictures for other members to enjoy. I am about done posting pictures here. I have over 2000 photos and I haven't really posted too many in the last year due to the last time someone went to the girl.

If you are the Captain-Save-Ho that told, please PM me and tell me why? Do you think that she is going to give you better GFE because you told her? I have never posted a picture when asked to not put on the internet.

I am also active on another forum and the rule there is: If you show the forum or pictures to a girl, you are banned.

Sad shit:(

This post is not directed at Tansak KTV. I m using his post as the reply post. Seems like when someone saw Hollywood and her name, they ran into the bar and told her:(

Robb

Member #3428
12-30-09, 22:48
I thought this forum was to share info and post pictures for other members to enjoy. I am about done posting pictures here. I have over 2000 photos and I haven't really posted too many in the last year due to the last time someone went to the girl.

Step down bro... this happened to me and I know your position, such the reason I'm not posting pic's of girls. I am in total agreement with you that there are too many guys that that DO NOT POST but love to run talk to the girls. We don't need any PM you want to meet face to face that's fine, I'm there for a few days at this new year then to Thailand and then back Jan 19 to 21 until the 25th or so. Always at Dusit but with one girl who doesn't know I visit bars.

Fine you're pissed, i'd be pissed too, but you're pissing at the wrong guy. I try to help with her real name only. But don't jump on me for making a clarification.

Robbaf
12-30-09, 23:03
Step down bro... this happened to me and I know your position, such the reason I'm not posting pic's of girls. I am in total agreement with you that there are too many guys that that DO NOT POST but love to run talk to the girls. We don't need any PM you want to meet face to face that's fine, I'm there for a few days at this new year then to Thailand and then back Jan 19 to 21 until the 25th or so. Always at Dusit but with one girl who doesn't know I visit bars.

Fine you're pissed, i'd be pissed too, but you're pissing at the wrong guy. I try to help with her real name only. But don't jump on me for making a clarification.
I am not pissed at you. I don't think that someone with over a 1000 post would show this forum to a girl. I was using your post as the reply post.

Robb

Robbaf
12-30-09, 23:15
Last week I was in Manila, and took a "coupon" taxi from Terminal 2 to the Dusit. There's no rate negotiation and no meter since the standard rate is Php330. I happened to have a very articulate driver, who was explaining to me that he was fairly new to the job, and was following in the footsteps of his brother, who drove a similar taxi for a while and, using that experience, managed to land a driving job in one of the Emirates. He also told me that he didn't understand how anyone could do the airport taxi job for long, since the drivers make only a 10% commission--a statement I was able to verify with one of the drivers who works for the car service at the Dusit. My airport taxi driver also told me that he had been waiting two hours until it was his turn for a fare.

Let's see, he made all of Php33 from the ride he gave me. That's about $.70 at today's exchange rate. Assume he gets 4-5 fares a night and he's looking at a gross wage of about $3.50 or so. Granted, he gets more for longer hauls, but then it also takes him longer to return to the airport for his next fare.

For the drivers of regular taxis, I would imagine that after paying the taxi rental and the gas, they don't make much more, or perhaps even less on a bad night. Given starvation incomes and what they perceive as rich tourists, is is really any wonder that they try to make as much money as possible from the unsuspecting? It's amazing how easy it is to get self righteous over getting "ripped off" for maybe $1 by those who willingly shell out Php350 or more for watered down ladies drinks.

GE
I always use the coupon taxi. I was in one Christmas Eve going to Makati and I asked what time the malls closed, as I needed to buy a present and the driver volunteered to stop and wait on me while I did my shopping:)

Also, I like the coupon taxi because you smoke in them:)

Robb

Member #3428
12-30-09, 23:23
I am not pissed at you. I don't think that someone with over a 1000 post would show this forum to a girl. I was using your post as the reply post.

Robb

OK we're cool, I thought you were pissing on my back over this.

I totally agree with you and such the reason you will find many long term posters, who frequent the same bars or areas, do not POST pictures because too many guys run to the girls and tell them.

I DO however know for a fact that girls in hollywood know of this site. if you think they do not know about then you are wrong, very very very wrong. I know for 100% fact that one of the girls there watches this site.

Also the owners of Hollywood (3 owners), they own the bar next to it Papillion they are sister clubs and the girls between there talk talk all the time. So what you do in Hollywood can spread to Papilion and vice versa. The owners also have interests in some other bars also. And being close to the other bars the girls rotate bars many times also like girls used to work Papilion move to Pussycats and such so what you do in one place really spreads fast in Burgos. It's a really really really small community there. Which can be bad or good depending on how you use this fact.

Viajando Musico
12-31-09, 03:55
Last week I was in Manila, and took a "coupon" taxi from Terminal 2 to the Dusit. There's no rate negotiation and no meter since the standard rate is Php330. I happened to have a very articulate driver, who was explaining to me that he was fairly new to the job, and was following in the footsteps of his brother, who drove a similar taxi for a while and, using that experience, managed to land a driving job in one of the Emirates. He also told me that he didn't understand how anyone could do the airport taxi job for long, since the drivers make only a 10% commission--a statement I was able to verify with one of the drivers who works for the car service at the Dusit. My airport taxi driver also told me that he had been waiting two hours until it was his turn for a fare.

Let's see, he made all of Php33 from the ride he gave me. That's about $.70 at today's exchange rate. Assume he gets 4-5 fares a night and he's looking at a gross wage of about $3.50 or so. Granted, he gets more for longer hauls, but then it also takes him longer to return to the airport for his next fare.

For the drivers of regular taxis, I would imagine that after paying the taxi rental and the gas, they don't make much more, or perhaps even less on a bad night. Given starvation incomes and what they perceive as rich tourists, is is really any wonder that they try to make as much money as possible from the unsuspecting? It's amazing how easy it is to get self righteous over getting "ripped off" for maybe $1 by those who willingly shell out Php350 or more for watered down ladies drinks.

GE
These driver don't count on the percentage of the fare. They live on tips received from generous passengers. The stingy owners of these Taxi companies know that, so they only share very little from the fare with the drivers. I normally give extra P30-50 for a ride to Makati from the airport, and every time received a gracious “Thank you sir” in return.

From my experiences, most of the taxi drivers in Manila are quite honest, very few times I got ripped off, and when that happened, I normally reminded them with a smile.

Sick Boy3
12-31-09, 06:23
I learned from a Philippine guy. Look for the drivers with a rosary, or stautue of Jesus on the dash. These guys are honest. I have yet to find a bad driver when doing this.

Member #3428
12-31-09, 07:20
I learned from a Philippine guy. Look for the drivers with a rosary, or stautue of Jesus on the dash. These guys are honest. I have yet to find a bad driver when doing this.

Shit who doesn't have a friggin statue on the dash or rosary hanging around? That's like a thailand taxi without a buddha on the dash... Seriously I'm thinking about this and about the only ones I can think of are the newer yellow airport taxis. Every one I find seems to have it and most of them of course... meter no work...

Spider916
12-31-09, 08:06
hi guys

i recently went back to burgos after a pause of about 2years. I have to agree that the whole street really went downhill. High ladydrink pressure, mostly bored overweight girls or single moms plus relatively expansive barfines. I won't be back anytime soon.

Professional
01-01-10, 01:42
I learned from a Philippine guy. Look for the drivers with a rosary, or stautue of Jesus on the dash. These guys are honest. I have yet to find a bad driver when doing this.I once took a cab from a guy that had statue and pictures of god and jesus all over his cab he even lectured me about god and when we finally arrive at my destination the meter read 357 peso. I have made this trip before and it should have been more like 80 peso.

Spider916
01-02-10, 06:31
My coupon cab from the airport to the shangri-la cost me 450 but the return by regular meter cab only 180. Both had rosaries dangling from their mirrors.

Another guy wanted 150 from edsa to shangri-la. Gave him 80 and told the security what happened and they chassed him away and told me, they put them on their blacklist.

Manila was very quiet between xmas and new year, in stark contrast to singapore and bangkok/pattaya. Those cities are imho much better for mongering nowadays than manila.


I once took a cab from a guy that had statue and pictures of god and+jesus+all+over+his+cab+he+even+lectured+me+about+god+and+when+we+finally+arrive+at+my+destination+the+meter+read+357+peso.+I+have+made+this+trip+before+and+it+should+have+been+more+like+80+peso.

Starchild2012
01-03-10, 09:50
I once took a cab from a guy that had statue and pictures of god and jesus all over his cab he even lectured me about god and when we finally arrive at my destination the meter read 357 peso. I have made this trip before and it should have been more like 80 peso.

It happens all the time, One need the threat of a complaint or a drive to NBI that these guys back off.

If you feel you have been overcharged nothing short of threatening to call cops or driving the taxi to nearest police post will back them down.

I have put the number in earlier post, crucial for anyone who is coming to manila.

Its ok if you are here one time, but if you plan to stay long term, you are guaranteed to get your ride messed up by these taxi cons.

Cool Traveler
01-05-10, 17:32
Redkilt. You right. I did it. Took my masseuses who then asked if she could bring along her friend. Absolutely nothing wrong in asking.


I was told by the former owner of the high class massage services provided in Marco Polo and Grand Regal in Davao that generally any girls who work on the night shift from around 7pm onwards in the Health Clubs in most 5-star hotels will entertain "extras", but you cannot be sure that those on the day shift will be willing.

Another thing he said was that YOU have to initiate the required service. His girls were all willing and ready, but they were instructed not to initiate anything, like brushing the dick or massaging right up to the groin and nudging the balls even. It is probably the same in the big clubs in Manila (I don't know because I live here).
I suggest you ask the bell boys in the lobby as a first option. Many of them know everything. Or straight up ask the masseuse who is assigned to you if she provides "full service", which is a euphemism for "extras". In the unlikely event that she says No then ask if you can have someone who will. In the Club it is always HJ only, but you may have success enticing her to your room after the shift depending on your dazzling wit and repartee and the size of your tackle box.

Soapy Smith
01-07-10, 09:21
My coupon cab from the airport to the shangri-la cost me 450 but the return by regular meter cab only 180. Both had rosaries dangling from their mirrors.

Airport taxis have a special monopoly. The only alternative is to climb the stairs to the departure level and try to get a regular taxi who has just dropped somebody off. Once you climb the stairs with a couple pieces of heavy luggage you'll give up on that strategy, even when the difference in price is 300 pesos.

Be aware that there are also taxi groups that run from some of the downtown hotels to the airport that are similarly high priced. Their prices are probably twice the price of a regular fare cab. But if you depend on the hotel's doorman to call a taxi to the cab, that's what you'll get. The hotel-to-airport monopoly respects the airport monopoly and won't try to grab a separate return fare. In theory their fare includes a round trip, but who needs a round trip -- unless you take your latest squeeze to the airport for a couple last minute feels and then send her back to Ermita -- to get her next customer at LA Cafe.

Lakeside
01-10-10, 09:17
Early February I will enjoy a business trip to Manila including a date with a girl, 22 I got to know through DIA. She is a nurse and not a pro. I am in the lower forties and would like to go out dancing with her to a place where I would not feel like an alien and getting strange looks only. Could not find any hints on the forum so are there any good recommendations in the Makati area?

Fiend Devil
01-11-10, 01:38
Early February I will enjoy a business trip to Manila including a date with a girl, 22 I got to know through DIA. She is a nurse and not a pro. I am in the lower forties and would like to go out dancing with her to a place where I would not feel like an alien and getting strange looks only. Could not find any hints on the forum so are there any good recommendations in the Makati area?


Could check out Embassy or Cafe Havana (are pro's here but not everyone here is). In Malate many good places like Bedrock which arent too pro heavy. Quite hard to find anything which doesnt have pro's

Lala Bay
01-11-10, 03:19
Early February I will enjoy a business trip to Manila including a date with a girl, 22 I got to know through DIA. She is a nurse and not a pro. I am in the lower forties and would like to go out dancing with her to a place where I would not feel like an alien and getting strange looks only. Could not find any hints on the forum so are there any good recommendations in the Makati area?What about Tabu? Or the better Clubs in Makati?

GoodEnough
01-11-10, 11:48
Could check out Embassy or Cafe Havana (are pro's here but not everyone here is). In Malate many good places like Bedrock which arent too pro heavy. Quite hard to find anything which doesnt have pro's
I second the opinion regarding Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3. It's got a band and lots of folks on the dance floor, many if not most of whom are non-pros. And of course there's the added advantage, if you're not picking up the right vibes from your date, of moving on quickly to one of the unaccompanied but still searching ladies at the outside tables.

GE

Wicked Roger
01-11-10, 12:54
I second the opinion regarding Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3. It's got a band and lots of folks on the dance floor, many if not most of whom are non-pros. And of course there's the added advantage, if you're not picking up the right vibes from your date, of moving on quickly to one of the unaccompanied but still searching ladies at the outside tables.

GE
Always feel Havana Cafe is better than LA Cafe, Embassy is nice but many young rich(ish) Filipinas who may not play the game we want. Always picked up lovely girls from Havana and never been disappointed...cant say the same about LAC. I sometimes keep the Havana contacts and see themn when I return as they are for me cute, slim, shaved and horny..and sometimes I cant be bothered to go out prefer a home delivery :)

Ajacobson
01-11-10, 17:51
I see a few mentions of Embassy Club at the Fort... anyone been there lately? I haven't but I know it was closed. Apparently it was reopened under a new name, "Encore" - same place though. Just bringing it up to avoid confusion for a potential first time visitor.

They have a Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=6634001801

The old website is offline.

It used to be the high-class party place to go in the Philippines, but it would be interesting to hear if that's still true with the new club since the concept was supposed to be changed (kind of forced):

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20091106-234672/New-and-improved-club-with-tighter-security-to-reopen-in-Taguig-City

Anyone in for Jazz nights and ballroom dancing?

Darmstadter
01-11-10, 20:16
I'll be staying at this hotel next Friday and Saturday nights.

Will I be close to Club Havana or the Hard Rock?

Any advise for the general area would be great.

Thanks.

Lala Bay
01-12-10, 00:33
I see a few mentions of Embassy Club at the Fort... anyone been there lately? I haven't but I know it was closed. Apparently it was reopened under a new name, "Encore" - same place though. Just bringing it up to avoid confusion for a potential first time visitor.

They have a Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=6634001801

The old website is offline.

It used to be the high-class party place to go in the Philippines, but it would be interesting to hear if that's still true with the new club since the concept was supposed to be changed (kind of forced):

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20091106-234672/New-and-improved-club-with-tighter-security-to-reopen-in-Taguig-City

Anyone in for Jazz nights and ballroom dancing?It was closed because of a stabbing or something alike.. not sure. Havent been there since then, but even before it had a lot more pros then in earlier years. Cuisine was still ok, but few people (that is higher class Filipinos) went there anymore.

Ajacobson
01-12-10, 02:32
I'll be staying at this hotel next Friday and Saturday nights.

Will I be close to Club Havana or the Hard Rock?

Any advise for the general area would be great.

Thanks.Quite close, it's walking distance if you don't mind walking 600 meters. From Mandarin to Café Havanna which is located at Greenbelt mall you cross 2 big & busy streets and take a pedestrian underpass. You still may want to take a cab for the short ride if it's too hot during day time and/or you are averse to smog. I would always take a ride at night time and used to pay around 50 or 60 Pesos for the trip including tip (was later increased by 10 or so because of fuel price hike by official label in the cabs instead of adjusting the meters - don't ask). I prefered the hotel cars though, much more comfortable than the wrecks that are called meter taxis, no arguing during peak times, but 5 to 6 times as expensive if you are not entitled to a discount. On weekends Mandarin used to have a complimentary shuttle service including pick-up return with their hotel cars to Greenbelt/Glorietta although only until 9 or 10 pm. Ask the concierge for coupons and the current modalities.

Hard Rock Café is at Glorietta mall, which is the next mall to Greenbelt connected by overpass, so that's about the same distance.

Mandarin hotel, Greenbelt and Glorietta mall are located in the heart of Makati, Manila's traditional business district. The area feels very safe especially during day time as you hardly pass 30 meters till the next office building, hotel or bank entrance with 1 to 5 security guards.

One more thing about the Mandarin... It's an old hotel that compensates for the aged interior with great service. If you are discerning and your budget allows, go for a Club Room (at least avoid a Superior Room if you can). The rooms are not on par with Horizon Club at Shangri-La Makati (or accomodation at other Mandarin properties worldwide for that matter), but that's about twice as expensive.

Warbucks
01-12-10, 04:46
I see a few mentions of Embassy Club at the Fort... anyone been there lately? I haven't but I know it was closed. Apparently it was reopened under a new name, "Encore" - same place though. Just bringing it up to avoid confusion for a potential first time visitor.

They have a Facebook page: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?v=wall&ref=search&gid=6634001801

The old website is offline.

It used to be the high-class party place to go in the Philippines, but it would be interesting to hear if that's still true with the new club since the concept was supposed to be changed (kind of forced):

http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/inquirerheadlines/metro/view/20091106-234672/New-and-improved-club-with-tighter-security-to-reopen-in-Taguig-City

Anyone in for Jazz nights and ballroom dancing?

You don’t see much about club Encore formerly known as the Embassy because one it is expensive for the Philippines (500PHP ($10) entrance fee. Super clubs in the States charge up to $40) but not when compared to western super clubs. Two it is patronized by the elite of the natives, actors, socialites, models etc…. Three there is also a strict dress code. You must dress to impress. Four it carries a younger crowd…. A great deal of hip hop/techno music is played. All of the above will put off the average monger you will find on these boards.

PS: The place is rife with narcotics mostly Cocaine and a lot of brawls have broke out there recently a large number of spoiled rich kids may be the raison d'être.

Ajacobson
01-12-10, 05:47
You don't see much about club Encore formerly known as the Embassy because one it is expensive for the Philippines (500PHP ($10) entrance fee. Super clubs in the States charge up to $40) but not when compared to western super clubs. Two it is patronized by the elite of the natives, actors, socialites, models etc. Three there is also a strict dress code. You must dress to impress. Four it carries a younger crowd. A great deal of hip hop/techno music is played. All of the above will put off the average monger you will find on these boards [. ]Yep. It's supposed to be (or was) the best there is, but I was quite underwhelmed when I went there (if I was unclear earlier, I just didn't visit the new place lately since it was reopened). The venue is not really special compared to some upscale Western clubs but it's the crowd you mentioned that attracts more crowd. I did like the desk where people deposited their. 45 firearms though. Ahhhh, sons of influential politicians, alcohol, drugs, women and guns really don't mix well if all you are looking for is partying. As you indicated the place was closed down more than once over the last years because of ongoing. Issues.

The entrance fee is indeed expensive for locals, although it included 2 or 3 basic drinks, however the "VIP" guest list line (no entrance fee) outside was usually about 10 times longer than the ordinary folks line (entrance fee) when I got there, few of those really VIPs, haha. As always in the Philippines everyone knows someone who works there and if it's only to waive the 500 Peso entrance fee to the Embassy Club. My guess was they don't make so much money on those fees, but who knows. Oh, and you can't really just sit other than on a few spots. Tables used to be 8 to 10, 000 Pesos, most of that consumable though.

Cunning Stunt
01-12-10, 07:29
The entrance fee is indeed expensive for locals, although it included 2 or 3 basic drinks, however the "VIP" guest list line (no entrance fee) outside was usually about 10 times longer than the ordinary folks line (entrance fee) when I got there, few of those really VIPs, haha.

Yeah it used to be one of my boys favorite hang outs and he nearly always got in as a VIP. But there again he hangs out with some of the Philippines 'rich, young and in' crowd. Makes me jealous as hell;).

Docwiltro
01-28-10, 13:21
Early February I will enjoy a business trip to Manila including a date with a girl, 22 I got to know through DIA. She is a nurse and not a pro. I am in the lower forties and would like to go out dancing with her to a place where I would not feel like an alien and getting strange looks only. Could not find any hints on the forum so are there any good recommendations in the Makati area?

Where ever you go, you'll get looks; most of the time, only your companion will notice. Some Filipinas can handle it, some cannot. I would ask her if she "would be shy to you" in public. If she says yes, stay in the hotel room or find another date. I've had a experienced this "shyness" before, and it will ruin your evening.

OralSkillz
01-29-10, 03:21
Hi, Guys.

Me and some friends are going to be in Makati during the Super Bowl. Would anybody know if there are any bars, more likely US expat bars, that are going to show the Super Bowl live? Of course, it'll have to open at 7 am Monday morning.

Thanks!

Wicked Roger
01-29-10, 10:03
Where ever you go, you'll get looks; most of the time, only your companion will notice. Some Filipinas can handle it, some cannot. I would ask her if she "would be shy to you" in public. If she says yes, stay in the hotel room or find another date. I've had a experienced this "shyness" before, and it will ruin your evening.

Lakeside - look in the General Info area for some ideas also, but I agree with Doc, if she is shy with you in public then find another date or just enjoy shagging her day in the hotel room.

I go out with my 18 year old cutie and she is fine, we go to the Burgos bars and well as restaurants in Greenbelt. Our age gap is ayt least 10-15 years greater than your age gap

The Greenbelt area is great for the restaurants and no one will care and if they do it is likely jealousy.....ignore it but it can be uplifting seeing other cuties stare at you and her jealously :D Great boost for the ego

Take her to Havana Cafe, go up the stairs next to the cafe and you are in Greenblet and some nice places to eat. I was there with Gangles a while back - our combined ages was well over 100 and the ladies well under 50/55....

There is also an expat bar in Burgos - Handlebar - nice food, nice people - and again take her there and see if she wants to visit a few Burgos bars...you are only a 5 minute walk away from plenty, there is a floor show at Jools (I think?) very tasteful starts at 10pm and a quick walk from Handlebar. That way you can judge if she wants to see more 'interesting' bars . Did this with my 18 year old cutie but I already knew she was kinky as hell so was no hassles visiting the more interesting bars after.

So plenty to do and take her

So first check if she is shy in public with you...nbest you find out now and see if she likes to see bars as well...could be an exciting night ;)

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OralSkillz - not sure if Handlebar opens at 7am but it does show lots of sport including American stuff, so maybe you can call them and ask etc. I only go there at night so cant be sure if they ever open that early, am mor seasoned makati mongers will know and suggest other places

Robbaf
01-29-10, 22:25
There is also an expat bar in Burgos - Handlebar - nice food, nice people - and again take her there and see if she wants to visit a few Burgos bars...you are only a 5 minute walk away from plenty, there is a floor show at Jools (I think?) very tasteful starts at 10pm and a quick walk from Handlebar. That way you can judge if she wants to see more 'interesting' bars
I guess you didn't hear, Jools is closed by order of the BIR. The BIR claims that the club reported sales of 9M pesos for 2008 and the BIR says that it should be 40M pesos:eek:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/180481/bir-shu...b-for-tax-fraud

Robb

Fast Eddie 48
01-30-10, 07:31
I guess you didn't hear, Jools is closed by order of the BIR. The BIR claims that the club reported sales of 9M pesos for 2008 and the BIR says that it should be 40M pesos:eek:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/180481/bir-shu...b-for-tax-fraud

RobbTo Robb,

I agree 9m peso is very low even with the slow down at Burgos. The owner charge high price on every thing and don't want to paid tax don't feel feel sorry for the bastard.

Fast Eddie 48

Lakeside
01-30-10, 07:48
[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Lakeside. Look in the General Info area for some ideas also, but I agree with Doc, if she is shy with you in public then find another date or just enjoy shagging her day in the hotel room.

I go out with my 18 year old cutie and she is fine, we go to the Burgos bars and well as restaurants in Greenbelt. Our age gap is ayt least 10-15 years greater than your age gap

The Greenbelt area is great for the restaurants and no one will care and if they do it is likely jealousy. Ignore it but it can be uplifting seeing other cuties stare at you and her jealously Great boost for the ego

Take her to Havana Cafe, go up the stairs next to the cafe and you are in Greenblet and some nice places to eat. I was there with Gangles a while back. Our combined ages was well over 100 and the ladies well under 50/55.

There is also an expat bar in Burgos. Handlebar. Nice food, nice people. And again take her there and see if she wants to visit a few Burgos bars. You are only a 5 minute walk away from plenty, there is a floor show at Jools (I think?) very tasteful starts at 10pm and a quick walk from Handlebar. That way you can judge if she wants to see more 'interesting' bars. Did this with my 18 year old cutie but I already knew she was kinky as hell so was no hassles visiting the more interesting bars after.

So plenty to do and take her

So first check if she is shy in public with you. Nbest you find out now and see if she likes to see bars as well. Could be an exciting night.

Thanks a lot for the good tips and I will give it a go and enjoy myself with my cutie in Greenbelt! Can't wait to get there.

Presidio
01-30-10, 21:41
One more thing about the Mandarin... It's an old hotel that compensates for the aged interior with great service. If you are discerning and your budget allows, go for a Club Room (at least avoid a Superior Room if you can). The rooms are not on par with Horizon Club at Shangri-La Makati (or accomodation at other Mandarin properties worldwide for that matter), but that's about twice as expensive.How is the hotel regarding bringing girls up to the room in the evening?

X Man
01-31-10, 01:32
I don't go to Burgos very often, but thanks for the interesting report.

When did you see the "floor show" at Jools?? A few years ago I had a long drawn out debate with someone who claimed that the place was a dump and the floor consisted of listless dancing. My experiences at Jools were always very good. X



[QUOTE=Wicked Roger]Lakeside. Look in the General Info area for some ideas also, but I agree with Doc, if she is shy with you in public then find another date or just enjoy shagging her day in the hotel room.

I go out with my 18 year old cutie and she is fine, we go to the Burgos bars and well as restaurants in Greenbelt. Our age gap is ayt least 10-15 years greater than your age gap

The Greenbelt area is great for the restaurants and no one will care and if they do it is likely jealousy. Ignore it but it can be uplifting seeing other cuties stare at you and her jealously Great boost for the ego

Take her to Havana Cafe, go up the stairs next to the cafe and you are in Greenblet and some nice places to eat. I was there with Gangles a while back. Our combined ages was well over 100 and the ladies well under 50/55.

There is also an expat bar in Burgos. Handlebar. Nice food, nice people. And again take her there and see if she wants to visit a few Burgos bars. You are only a 5 minute walk away from plenty, there is a floor show at Jools (I think?) very tasteful starts at 10pm and a quick walk from Handlebar. That way you can judge if she wants to see more 'interesting' bars. Did this with my 18 year old cutie but I already knew she was kinky as hell so was no hassles visiting the more interesting bars after.

So plenty to do and take her

So first check if she is shy in public with you. Nbest you find out now and see if she likes to see bars as well. Could be an exciting night.

Thanks a lot for the good tips and I will give it a go and enjoy myself with my cutie in Greenbelt! Can't wait to get there.

Wicked Roger
01-31-10, 19:42
I guess you didn't hear, Jools is closed by order of the BIR. The BIR claims that the club reported sales of 9M pesos for 2008 and the BIR says that it should be 40M pesos:eek:

http://www.gmanews.tv/story/180481/bir-shu...b-for-tax-fraud

Robb
Thanks Robb did not know that...was there early December.... but then what would the BIR know apart from the size of the contribution to its favourite charity.

Xman...by floor show I mean something that is not the somewhat listless dancing seen in many bars in Burgos nowadays, at least the girls made an effort...one of my friends took his wife there :D and she liked the show ...he did not take to High Heels etc where he was very well known and his lovely (and much younger) girlfriend knew to steer well clear for that week....

But am not much into floor shows but as Jools is closed that bit of advice is useless.

Bronxnik
02-03-10, 14:14
Foreigner with local girl 30 years his junior. Will not get any serious looks anywhere in the Philippines. The locals were born at night. But not last night.

Puerto La Cruz
02-13-10, 14:51
As long as we are in the neighborhood, there's a Thai Massage place across the street from Jools. Anybody know if this place is legit or otherwise?

Escort Fan
02-21-10, 20:42
Two nights ago met on Makati avenue not far from A Venue Suite Hotel, two girls at 4 or 5AM sitting in front of some fastfood place shakeys or pan de manila can't remember.

They told me their shift at the restaurant was over. One chubby talkative girl (a 5), and one shy spinner (a 7, 5) with a hot body (she said she was 37 kg).

Back to the room. I propose 1, 000 pesos each, they said 2, 000 pesos, quickly settled for 1, 500 pesos each which seems fair considering makati high prices!

Shower time, the deed is quickly done, the chubby girl only sucked me while I kissed and cuddled with the pretty one, after sucking the chubby went to hide in the bathroom for 15 or 20 min while I was fucking the pretty one!:)

The girl turned out to be very friendly and open minded.

A good session, right after they turned out to be runner at the initative of the chubby girl, (silly me I paid upfront at her request.).

But overall an ok session and it was ok to go to bed as it was 6AM or so.

Epilogue:

I walked on Burgos tonight, who do I see coming out of a bar in the same block as pussycats, the chubby girl:), guess she didn't really worked any shift at the fast food place! Never trust a Filippino WG and it's been proven right once again!

Muff Eater
03-15-10, 04:58
As long as we are in the neighborhood, there's a Thai Massage place across the street from Jools. Anybody know if this place is legit or otherwise?

I like going there for a good massage and I've become friends with one of the girls there. The massage is php 500. Once, my friend got a HJ for 500 extra.

ME

Muff Eater
03-15-10, 04:59
FYI, Jools is open again. Went by there on 3/8.

ME

Bonker04
03-15-10, 07:45
How is the hotel regarding bringing girls up to the room in the evening?No problem at all when I stayed there two weeks ago. No questions asked....and only a cursory handbag search by security which is normal there. No ID check for the girls.

Gogobarlover
03-21-10, 04:07
What time does most of these bars in P Burgos Street open? I was thinking we have a 3hr and 25 min wait time for our next flight to Cebu on PAL. The drive to P Burgos from the airport shouldn't be that far and long. But, I was just wondering if any of the bars on P Burgos St open at 2:00pm in the afternoon?

Key Master
03-22-10, 03:48
What time does most of these bars in P Burgos Street open? I was thinking we have a 3hr and 25 min wait time for our next flight to Cebu on PAL. The drive to P Burgos from the airport shouldn't be that far and long. But, I was just wondering if any of the bars on P Burgos St open at 2:00pm in the afternoon?

There will be some open at that time, but I have rarely seen anything special at those times. The better ones work the night shift and come in around 9 pm. Not sure if it's worth the hassle to go there and back. Maybe try Airforce One which I have never been to but is close to the airports from what I hear. Not sure about the commute time from Burgos to and from airport, but once you get to commute time all bets are off, especially when everyone is leaving that area to go home.

FreebieFan
03-22-10, 05:18
There will be some open at that time, but I have rarely seen anything special at those times. The better ones work the night shift and come in around 9 pm. Not sure if it's worth the hassle to go there and back. Maybe try Airforce One which I have never been to but is close to the airports from what I hear. Not sure about the commute time from Burgos to and from airport, but once you get to commute time all bets are off, especially when everyone is leaving that area to go home.Get to Bottoms. Theres a dirty little corner where you can happily have an afternoon BJ. Many guys go there for a little post lunch relaxation.

Callme G
03-26-10, 03:52
This report is fairly brief as I am currently traveling. It includes my recent stays in Makati, Philippines and Singapore. While in the two places I avoided the well known bars of P. Burgos Street and Orchard Towers, favouring a more of a challenge.

I was staying in the Shrangrila close to Glorietta and Greenbelt Malls. It was amaizing the number of shop assistance and cute shoppers there that were willing to smile, say hello, and negotiate some time in my room. I may have hit a lucky time as students had or were finishing their studies for the summer and maybe needed extra cash. They were as young as 18-19 willing to be fucked by a much older man after work, or for some of the shoppers during the day. Just sitting in the reception a few minutes also showed that I was not alone. Several expats returned 2-3pm in the afternoon with a cutie or two in their arms only to rush up to the lifts. So my advice avoid the bars with the worn out ***** and go shopping, especially now till June when the students are free.

While there I also met a virgin girl (or she said she was a virgin) I had been communicating with on the internet, and a cute student, who never had been kissed, that I flew from another city for the night for some hugs. By the time she left she had been 'kissed'.

Back in Spore I avoided the OT crowd and went to Brix. Last time I was there it was full of vietnamese but this time there was a more cosmipolitan gathering. Several big breasted Columbians, too many large bottomed Russian, but many many very attractive Asian girls from China, Thailand, Vietnam, Singapore, Malaysia, etc. All were 7-10s mostly in black evening dresses and made up immaculately. I hit on a very cute Malay girl who was wearing a black dress and stocking!! That turns me on. The place is expensive but very good on the ego when you wake up next to a young very attractive partner.

G

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Amavida
03-28-10, 11:37
these days im kept busy doing pretty young straight girls but occassionally i get tired of slowly, patiently defiling them & need something a wild.

its not hard to get a couple of p4p'ers back to your room only to be disappointed by a sudden attack of shyness. you know the drill.. both disappear into the bathroom for an interminable time then one comes out at a time for her turn while the other hides in the bathroom.

how very refreshing to find a couple of girls who are a wild tag team!

these two call themselves alex & sheila. regulars from fridays may recognise them. dropped into fridays around 11pm, on entering i was approached by them & asked what i wanted. to which i replied 'cold beer & hot pussy, preferably two'. sheila immediately replied with a dazling smile, 'thank god you know what you want!'.
the two of them practically raped me in the booth. back in the room i had one of the best all night threesomes i've had in quite a while. repeated two more nights. they were that good..

damage? p3,000 each bf + p3,000 each 'tip'. they were looking for a sugar daddy so were competing to outdo each other with me. a not unpleasant experience. ;)

i realise this is expensive pussy by angeles standards but these girls really know how to pleasure a man & there was none of that time wasting 'shy' nonsense.

regards
av

Amavida
03-28-10, 11:42
You don’t see much about club Encore formerly known as the Embassy because one it is expensive for the Philippines (500PHP ($10) entrance fee. Super clubs in the States charge up to $40) but not when compared to western super clubs. Two it is patronized by the elite of the natives, actors, socialites, models etc…. Three there is also a strict dress code. You must dress to impress. Four it carries a younger crowd…. A great deal of hip hop/techno music is played. All of the above will put off the average monger you will find on these boards.

PS: The place is rife with narcotics mostly Cocaine and a lot of brawls have broke out there recently a large number of spoiled rich kids may be the raison d'être.All true. I took one of my 18 year old's there as a treat but we both got bored as hell quickly. The place is filled with all these yuppie pinoys standing, ignoring the music & each other whilst txt'ing constantly all night. Geez I can stand in a crowd of txt'ers on any street corner..

Cheers
AV

Amavida
03-28-10, 11:47
It happens all the time, One need the threat of a complaint or a drive to NBI that these guys back off.

If you feel you have been overcharged nothing short of threatening to call cops or driving the taxi to nearest police post will back them down.

I have put the number in earlier post, crucial for anyone who is coming to manila.

Its ok if you are here one time, but if you plan to stay long term, you are guaranteed to get your ride messed up by these taxi cons.Aw c'mon guys.. you're here to pound pussy not have screaming arguments with taxi drivers over $5.00
Focus...

AV

Warbucks
03-29-10, 03:50
these days i'm kept busy doing pretty young straight girls but occassionally i get tired of slowly, patiently defiling them & need something a wild.yeah bro same thing here.


its not hard to get a couple of p4p'ers back to your room only to be disappointed by a sudden attack of shyness. you know the drill. both disappear into the bathroom for an interminable time then one comes out at a time for her turn while the other hides in the bathroom.

how very refreshing to find a couple of girls who are a wild tag team!

these two call themselves alex & sheila. regulars from fridays may recognise them. dropped into fridays around 11pm, on entering i was approached by them & asked what i wanted. to which i replied 'cold beer & hot pussy, preferably two'. sheila immediately replied with a dazling smile, 'thank god you know what you want! '.

the two of them practically raped me in the booth. back in the room i had one of the best all night threesomes i've had in quite a while. repeated two more nights. they were that good.

damage? p3, 000 each bf + p3, 000 each 'tip'. they were looking for a sugar daddy so were competing to outdo each other with me. a not unpleasant experience..

i realise this is expensive pussy by angeles standards but these girls really know how to pleasure a man & there was none of that time wasting 'shy' nonsense.

regards,

avav good to see you back. dude you don't post much but when you do you bring the noise. you also post photos of some of the finest girls in pi gallery unlike others who seem to think quantity equals quality. thanks.

Starchild2012
03-29-10, 15:46
Aw c'mon guys.. you're here to pound pussy not have screaming arguments with taxi drivers over $5.00
Focus...

AV

Wish i could, I live here and pretty much use taxi everyday in and out and wait for the taxi when girls come in and send them out. I'm in it for pussy...i know ..i know...but when it goes for 365 days a year, day in and day out, i loose it, there must be a limit. Its ok for short time travelers. May be i should buy a vehicle, but i know, i be [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk and be dead head broken in six months.

I'm really cool on many many things and stretch my emotional level to the extreme, i have been in way to many incidents with taxi guys that i just can't avoid it :) i know what you mean, its big distraction

Amavida
03-30-10, 14:55
wish i could, i live here and pretty much use taxi everyday in and out and wait for the taxi when girls come in and send them out. i'm in it for pussy...i know ..i know...but when it goes for 365 days a year, day in and day out, i loose it, there must be a limit. its ok for short time travelers. may be i should buy a vehicle, but i know, i be [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) drunk and be dead head broken in six months.

i'm really cool on many many things and stretch my emotional level to the extreme, i have been in way to many incidents with taxi guys that i just can't avoid it :) i know what you mean, its big distractionbeen here five years. anything to do with finances (including taxi's) i learned to 'work' like the locals long ago.

im human though, i guess everybody has a pet peeve. usually im very patient but in recent months i've grown tired of the pinay habit of whilst walking, totally oblivious, simply stopping dead & completely blocking my access. coming from a low density population, my personal boundaries are much further out than the locals so i still find it tiresome to push through over & over...

i have a car which i almost never use inside manila. traffic is a *****, mmda guys & barangay 'patrols' are extortionists, finding a park at your destination is a *****. unless you can afford your own personal parking garage to store your vehicle don't even think about getting one.

av

Amavida
03-30-10, 14:57
Yeah bro same thing here.

AV good to see you back. Dude you don't post much but when you do you bring the noise. You also post photos of some of the finest girls in PI gallery unlike others who seem to think quantity equals quality. Thanks.Thanks man, enjoy your posts too. Take care!

AV

Amavida
03-30-10, 15:06
Walking past Hollywood a week or so ago.
This girl on the door called me over & it was obvious she was very keen so off to the races we went sans all the lady drinks bs.
Not the most beautiful looking girl in that bar but as usual, when they pick _you_, it almost always turns out to be very...umm.. enjoyable.
This girl calls her self Mitch. Very, very warm GFE. After the first night of official BF she kept turning up before work, after work, leaving work early & on her day off for lots of action.

AV

Manta Ray
03-31-10, 03:36
Walking past Hollywood a week or so ago.
This girl on the door called me over & it was obvious she was very keen so off to the races we went sans all the lady drinks bs.
Not the most beautiful looking girl in that bar but as usual, when they pick _you_, it almost always turns out to be very...umm.. enjoyable.
AV

And speaking of Hollywood...

A buddy was in town a few weeks ago, so we decided to meet up at my local Brit pub. We had some nachos, pizza, and a few San Migs, then hit the bars on Burgos.

So, we’re making our way down the street to Rogues, and as we walk by Hollywood, one of the slinky gals on door duty grabs my arm and literally pulls me inside (with my buddy in tow and not too much resistance from either of us!).

Once inside she throws me onto the sofa with her sitting next to me on my right. Mama-san quickly hovers on my left, leaning over me with plenty of cleavage in my face, and asks what I want to drink. I take in the mountainous view, wink, and say ‘Mama gatas’ (Mother’s milk).

At that, my gal on the right shrieks, ‘Oo, mayroon, mayroon’ (Yes, I have, I have), pulls down her top, cups her right breast, squeezes and lets loose with a jet-stream that hits me bang center in the forehead. She sees the incredulous look on my face, laughs and says, ‘Oo, missed, now you drink.’ With that she grabs my head with her left hand, yanks down and latches my mouth onto her right nipple. Another squeeze and I get a mouthful.

When I come up for air mama-san is bent over practically pissing herself laughing. Serves me right… next time I’ll just ask for a San Mig!

Manta Ray

PS: For you thirsty, milk-deprived lads out there, sorry, but can't remember her name or number. Just go in there and look for the gal with two wet spots on her blouse!

Amavida
03-31-10, 11:37
And speaking of Hollywood...
Once inside she throws me onto the sofa with her sitting next to me on my right. Mama-san quickly hovers on my left, leaning over me with plenty of cleavage in my face, and asks what I want to drink. I take in the mountainous view, wink, and say ‘Mama gatas’ (Mother’s milk).

At that, my gal on the right shrieks, ‘Oo, mayroon, mayroon’ (Yes, I have, I have), pulls down her top, cups her right breast, squeezes and lets loose with a jet-stream that hits me bang center in the forehead. She sees the incredulous look on my face, laughs and says, ‘Oo, missed, now you drink.’ With that she grabs my head with her left hand, yanks down and latches my mouth onto her right nipple. Another squeeze and I get a mouthful.

When I come up for air mama-san is bent over practically pissing herself laughing. Serves me right… next time I’ll just ask for a San Mig!

Manta Ray

PS: For you thirsty, milk-deprived lads out there, sorry, but can't remember her name or number. Just go in there and look for the gal with two wet spots on her blouse!Hehe! :) great story mate! BTW is that the youngish pretty momma san you're talking about? One night I danced up a storm with her and the girls in there. Ended up taking her out & shagged her, very nice.. very nice indeed!

AV

Manta Ray
03-31-10, 12:12
Hehe! :) great story mate! BTW is that the youngish pretty momma san you're talking about? One night I danced up a storm with her and the girls in there. Ended up taking her out & shagged her, very nice.. very nice indeed!

AV


I don't remember how young (or old) the mama-san is compared to the other mama-san(s) there as I hve only been to that bar a few times--I just remember that she was wearing a top that revealed quite ample cleavage, hence my (misguided!) quip about mama gatas.

Actually I do still chuckle to myself every time I picture in my mind the gal hitting the bullseye on my forehead!

MR

Fast Eddie 48
04-02-10, 06:04
Walking past Hollywood a week or so ago.

This girl on the door called me over & it was obvious she was very keen so off to the races we went sans all the lady drinks bs.

Not the most beautiful looking girl in that bar but as usual, when they pick _you_, it almost always turns out to be very. Umm. Enjoyable.

This girl calls her self Mitch. Very, very warm GFE. After the first night of official BF she kept turning up before work, after work, leaving work early & on her day off for lots of action.

AVTo Amavida,

You are the man another freebie, you must be a chick magnet or you look like George Clooney girl just come up to you all the time.

Fast Eddie 48

Amavida
04-03-10, 14:39
To Amavida,

You are the man another freebie, you must be a chick magnet or you look like George Clooney girl just come up to you all the time.

Fast Eddie 48Thanks for the kind words FF.

Nah man, many expat guys here find bar girls will sometimes return after a BF to hang out at his place in the hope of turning him into a 'boyfriend' rather than their crowded bar dorm. The trick is to let them believe they have a chance without telling them lies (bad karma).

If you have manners, bathe and money you are a walking god to these women compared to their dirty, hyper macho, trike driver boyfriends.

If you are fit & in the younger age group they find it easier to be physically attracted to you. If you are a good lover they will appreciate it, the locals & most intoxicated elderly obese foreigner bar patrons are not so hot in that department.

But the bottom line is we foreigners have 'pesonality', everything else BG's (& pinay's in general) tell you is all bullshit. The minute you start believing otherwise you are in deep trouble.

p.s. just to be clear, I bar fined Mitch the first night.

AV

Blackangst
04-06-10, 18:01
Hey all...been a few years since Ive been to Makati...is there a decent sized toy store near Greenbelt nowadays? I have a toy that needs a toy to play with when I leave ;)

Red Kilt
04-23-10, 01:48
I am going there in October. Thanks.

It's business as usual. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

What else can I say?

Buko Max
04-23-10, 02:22
It's business as usual. 24 hours a day, 7 days a week.

What else can I say?
You can say that LA Cafe is located in Ermita, Manila not in Makati! :rolleyes:

Red Kilt
04-23-10, 06:31
You can say that LA Cafe is located in Ermita, Manila not in Makati! :rolleyes:

Ahhh Mattrick you got me there, and just after I had been narky about people posting stuff in the wrong forums. I was really being facetious about such a weird post asking such a vague question about LAC in April for his trip in October WTF?

Puerto La Cruz
04-23-10, 08:03
As I said elsewhere, I have been to LA several times in the very recent past and I would put it at the level or lower than Blue Marlin Bar. The skank level appears to have gone up while the talent level has diminished.

Just one man's opinion and yes, I will be there again soon on the next trip. Guilty as charged.

Finrod
05-03-10, 06:23
I've been there a few times but prefer bringing my own ladies. Are they willing just to rent out the rooms and not partakikng with their fishbowl gals? I'm coming into makati early and my hotel won't let me check in before 3pm and I could use a flop house for about 5 hours. Any suggestions?
Try Sogo or Eurotel, believe both have branches in Makati somewhere.

Byung
05-11-10, 09:20
guys, i feel so confused, so upset, and just lost. i've been depressed for over 12 hours now since what happened last night.

i was hanging around burgos last night (near my hotel), and this lady approached me. i'd seen her around and talked to her before. she's a very unattractive older lady, maybe about 40. speaks better english than most.

now, i've never "played" on burgos as i've always had freebies, or just hung out at la cafe. however, i know some cheap, decent hotels in the area which is why i am in that area.

anyway, i figured i'd seen this chick around long enough, and she knows that i'm not the average tourist so i figured she wouldn't try to pull a fast one on me. of course, i was still cautious, like i always am.

she tells me of a place nearby, where she has eight young women, who provide massage and "full service" for only 500p. she says 500p includes everything, there are no up-sells, no "tip" or anything like that. first red flag: if it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.

so i'm just out there, just talking to her for a while, and then i decide to go for a walk with her. she says if i don't like the girls, i can leave, "no pressure".

so we start walking away from makati ave., towards kalayaan, passed it (i think), and came upon "new seoul hotel" or something like that. we go to reception, and she tells me to hand the 500p to the reception, which i did.

we then get a room key, and she takes me up to the room. she then turns the aircon on and tells me to relax, and then the phone in the hotel room rings, and she says something in tagalog, and then hangs up and tells me the girls are getting ready and it will take about 10 minutes for them to appear. she says the girls will come in groups of 3, and if i don't like the first batch, another group of 3 will come in. she says though, that she's sure i'll find a nice girl from the first batch.

anyway, we're waiting for a bit, and then i light up a cigarette, and she's texting, and says one of the girls is with a japanese client in a different room and that she's almost finished and will be coming in the room soon for my evaluation.

she then tells me to take a shower so that i'll be ready when the girls come in, which i thought was weird... she said i only needed to wash my private area. anyway, i went in the cr (bathroom/restroom) with my pants on (where my money is, of course!) and washed my genitals.

i came out, and she wanted to make sure i cleaned them. she says she doesn't believe i washed them and wants to see my penis, so i quickly show it to her, she moves down and sniffs it and says "good, i can smell the soap".

so, we're still waiting, and then the phone in the hotel room rings once more. she answers it, something in tagalog, and then hangs up, and says she's sorry, but they're busy, just to be patient.

she then tells me to strip naked, which i refused. she says she wants to give me a complimentary massage. i kept refusing, but she kept insisting. i finally agreed, but with my boxers on. she says not to worry, she's not gonna have sex with me, and she kept saying that there's "no malice" in what she's doing.

eventually, while massaging me, i'm asking her about her work, and how she gets paid. she said the hotel runs the business, and she's like a mamasan, and gets a salary from the hotel as well as commission, and sometimes tips from her customers. she says if she's good to her customers, sometimes they tip her well, even 1,000p, or sometimes just 100p.

well, and i'm not to sure how it happened because i don't remember, she managed to get my boxers off and it's a legit massage. eventually, she starts brushing against my dick with her arms and whatnot, but we're having normal conversation so i think nothing of it.

then she's finished with the massage and just kind of leans back, relaxing. then she starts playing with my dick. i ask her why she's doing that, and she says she just wants to touch it, like it's a toy to play with. i tell her it's making me uncomfortable, and by that point, i had a semi. i mean, this is a very ugly 40ish woman.

anyway, i tell her i don't want her doing anything, and with the quickness of lightning, she starts giving me a blowjob. i was going to stop her, but surprisingly the technique was one of the best i'd had. so my body is physically feeling much pleasure, but in my mind, i'm so confused, and the entire time i'm looking at her with confusion.

well, as i said, her technique was good, and i probably came the quickest i ever did from a blowjob ever. i'd say, less than two minutes. now, the weird thing is, after i came, i'm still confused and staring at her, and then the wall, just feeling really weird. something was off.

then she goes to the cr and spits, gargles, or whatever she does. she then comes back, and says she just did that because she wanted to. she doesn't do that for everyone. she said she was feeling horny and just wanted to suck it. she says to think nothing of it, and that pretend nothing happened.

so while i'm "recovering" -- she then says we should leave. i then asked about the girls. she said they're busy. she then tells me i've had enough anyway, that i was satisfied. i got scammed.

at that point, i figured i'll just get the fuck out. i start putting on my clothes, and this ***** has the nerve to ask, "can you pay me now?" -- oh, fuck. what is this, fucking double scam?

not wanting any drama, and 500p being nothing for me, i just gave her the 500p. at this point then, it's 500p for the room, and 500p to her, which is big money in the phils, but not for me, so whatever.

then... she starts complaining says 500p is little money, that it's not enough. then i told her no, that she said 500p, and she starts saying all this shit about how she worked hard, that i was satisfied, that if i don't have money i need to go to the atm.

at this point, i realized, i may be dealing with a total loon. a nutjob. nobody saw me go off with her (it was really really late, and just hours after election night so the regular people that i see on burgos weren't there).

she tells me she wants 2,000p, when if you add that with the room, my total damage would have been 2,500p. i got really scared and tried paying her a little more than the initial 500p, but she was adamant about getting 2,000p.

now, in this situation... i'm in an area of makati that i've never been in before, in a hotel i've never been in before, and nobody knows i'm there, and this woman is psycho, old, ugly; god knows what she's capable of.

at that point, i gave her the 2,000p in full and got the hell out of there. as i was leaving the motel (new seoul), i saw a ladyboy at the entrance that was hanging around me earlier in the night. she said something to the effect of, "oh, you're finished?"

i was so mad -- i'd been ripped off like this in the past by other providers, but the last time was over a year ago in pattaya, and i thought i'd never get "taken" again, but here i was again... i was so angry with myself, because i do have a fiancee that i love who lives in zambales (college educated, extremely sweet "good girl"), and that 2,500p i wasted on that old hag could have paid one month of my fiancee's electricity bill! or bought her a month's worth of food! instead, this old ***** gets it.

as i'm walking down burgos again towards my hotel, i see a friend who wasn't there when i'd first gone off with the old hag, but i guess someone did see me go off with her, and he told my friend (he knows all the girls on burgos). my friend then told me i made a mistake, that that ***** is a scam artist, and to top it off... a fucking ladyboy.

at that point, my heart sank. and i was no longer angry, but i was... i don't know how i felt. i felt like i'd been violated somehow. raped, perhaps. raped and robbed, basically. i didn't have any words. i just kept saying "fuck" over and over again.

eventually, i got back to my hotel room, after purchasing a bottle of emperador. i started downing it because i was so upset. as drunk as i got, though... i still couldn't fall asleep. i couldn't stop thinking about what happened. it was past 7 am when i finally passed out.

i had a dream, i don't remember the details, but the ladyboy was in the dream. from that dream, i felt it was okay, because maybe in my dream, she really wasn't a ladyboy, or maybe she paid me back or something.

of course, upon waking up, i realized reality again and couldn't get it out of my head. i really needed to vent, and so i came to a net cafe to vent on isg as well as warn the rest of you about this type of scam. it was so elaborate and so full of lies, it was amazing. and the fucking hotel was in on it. obviously, it must have been reception at the front desk calling the room, right? the ladyboy probably pays the reception chick some money to do that. and i'm sure the reception chick has seen the angry look on other guests who have been scammed as they leave the hotel. i'm sure they know what's up. so fuck that hotel...

as to why i didn't suspect it was a ladyboy. i can spot ladyboys, seriously, i can. i've been in thailand and the phils enough to know what a ladyboy looks like. ladyboys usually look like sexy chicks with somewhat masculine features, who are very flirtatious, taller than the average chick, tit jobs, etc. this particular ladyboy just looked like a typical older filipina lady; unattractive, overweight, wrinkles in the face, etc. i didn't suspect it was a ladyboy. fuck. so not only did i get a bj from a ladyboy, i got one from the ugliest ladyboy i'd ever seen in my life.

you can see why i'm feeling so... weird right now. i feel like killing someone, but also crying in the fetal position. i feel so helpless now.

anyway, let my experience serve as a warning to the rest of you. you might end up raped and robbed like i was. btw, if anyone wants to hang out in burgos or anywhere else tonight, please pm me. i could use some company with my fellow monger brethren.

Run Mann
05-11-10, 09:47
It pays read the board, if you did you would have discovered this below. Like you he was coerced and intimidated into paying but unlike you he didn't get any service.


http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1018121&postcount=5117

Mjolnir 213
05-11-10, 09:51
anyway, let my experience serve as a warning to the rest of you. you might end up raped and robbed like i was. btw, if anyone wants to hang out in burgos or anywhere else tonight, please pm me. i could use some company with my fellow monger brethren.not that this is any consolation to you dude.

but at least you were not the only experienced monger that got scammed:

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1018121&postcount=5117

sounds pretty much like the same person, same hotel too.

likely an experienced pro at running this con.

your story has made me think of all the times i've done risky silly stuff without thinking in my younger days, and i realise how lucky i've been to have not had an experience like yours. it could have happened to anyone really.

you need a strong dose of quality pussy to cheer you up!

or better yet, go see that sweet fiance of yours to get your mind off this.

wb

Warbucks
05-11-10, 13:56
guys, i feel so confused, so upset, and just lost. i've been depressed for over 12 hours now since what happened last night.

as to why i didn't suspect it was a ladyboy. i can spot ladyboys, seriously, i can. i've been in thailand and the phils enough to know what a ladyboy looks like. ladyboys usually look like sexy chicks with somewhat masculine features, who are very flirtatious, taller than the average chick, tit jobs, etc. this particular ladyboy just looked like a typical older filipina lady; unattractive, overweight, wrinkles in the face, etc. i didn't suspect it was a ladyboy. fuck. so not only did i get a bj from a ladyboy, i got one from the ugliest ladyboy i'd ever seen in my life.

you can see why i'm feeling so. weird right now. i feel like killing someone, but also crying in the fetal position. i feel so helpless now.

anyway, let my experience serve as a warning to the rest of you. you might end up raped and robbed like i was. btw, if anyone wants to hang out in burgos or anywhere else tonight, please pm me. i could use some company with my fellow monger brethren.two times in one week someone is put in a crazy ass situation on burgos. this has got to be first. only in pi. only in pi.

byung i don't know you personally but from your posting history you seem like a good dude sad this had to happen to you.

one guy is held against his will, another conned out of money and involuntarily has a close encounter of the third kind. what the hell is next?

Devils 1
05-11-10, 16:41
guys, i feel so confused, so upset, and just lost. i've been depressed for over 12 hours now since what happened last night.

anyway, let my experience serve as a warning to the rest of you. you might end up raped and robbed like i was. btw, if anyone wants to hang out in burgos or anywhere else tonight, please pm me. i could use some company with my fellow monger brethren.hahaha, you are gay dude just admit it.

i am sorry to the rest of you who are taken in by this story. but it reads like a clever ad for gay sex.

i knew it was a lie the minute you tell us what an experienced and hardened veteran of burgos you are. yet you let her intimidate you into paying her 2500 php.

"oh 500 php is nothing to me" yet afterward you talk about it like it is a week's wages.

this story is bullshit.

i can't believe you have the guts to say "please come and hang out with me tonight on burgos"

why would anyone hang with you, so you can lead them to be the next person scammed by your gay friends!

Admin
05-11-10, 19:41
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Azn Slayer
05-12-10, 03:28
Hey Byung,

Sorry to hear what happened. What that hag did to you was wrong and I hope she gets what she deserves. Hey, my buddy lives lives around that area and wanted to get in touch with you. He is Korean-American (I'm assuming you may be too by your screenname?) and knows alot of chicks there. I'll be visiting the PI on May 28th and be there for a little over a week for relaxation and some mongering. If you're around, we should get your mind off what the hag did and find some real beauties, or at least grab a beer. My email is [Email address deleted by Admin].

Take care man...Hope you feel better soon.

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Starchild2012
05-12-10, 17:02
Hahaha, you are gay dude just admit it.

I am sorry to the rest of you who are taken in by this story. But it reads like a clever ad for gay sex.

I knew it was a lie the minute you tell us what an experienced and hardened veteran of Burgos you are. Yet you let her intimidate you into paying her 2500 php.

"oh 500 php is nothing to me" yet afterward you talk about it like it is a week's wages.

This story is bullshit.

I can't believe you have the guts to say "please come and hang out with me tonight on Burgos"

Why would anyone hang with you, so you can lead them to be the next person scammed by your gay friends!Are you serious man....the guys just had one of the worst experience a monger can have and without even bothering other threads, you just nailed him gay... Did you even bother to read another members similar experience in Manila thread...

here...

http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=1018121&postcount=5117

Now, if we go with your story, whoever gets scammed by ladyboys you will term them gay?

Thanks to you, now even if someone gets scammed by ladyboys, they will think twice before posting for the fear of folks like you naming them gay

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Warbucks
05-12-10, 21:28
Are you serious man. The guys just had one of the worst experience a monger can have and without even bothering other threads, you just nailed him gay. Did you even bother to read another members similar experience in Manila thread.

Here.

http://www.Internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php? P=1018121&postcount=5117

Now, if we go with your story, whoever gets scammed by ladyboys you will term them gay?

Thanks to you, now even if someone gets scammed by ladyboys, they will think twice before posting for the fear of folks like you naming them gay.Born Loser the guy comes on this forum, spins a hair-raising tale, pours out his heart and is attacked and branded gay but can we expect sympathy from mongers? It takes a certain level of ruthlessness to play this game and ISG members have shown no one plays the game better.

Take guys like Mattrick for example.

Puerto La Cruz
05-13-10, 01:02
I shall repeat myself. Don't even frigg'n talke to anybody on the street. Never ever. I wear sunglasses during the day so they cannot see where I am looking and at night I make no eye contact whatsoever. Never, ever deal with anybody on the street.

And I question the truth of the story as the poster didn't even mention the place he was taken to.

LoveAsianWhores
05-13-10, 07:20
I had my own negative experiance with one a couple of years back. I'm getting into my car and a ladyboy jumps in from the passanger side at the same time. I push her out, but she gets my wallet. I ask for it back, but she refuses. This seams quite strange as this is happening 50 feet from burgoss and there are so many police around? So I follow her as she crosses Makati, and I am screaming for a cop, and one shows up Ave. We all go to the police station and then her side of the story is that she was giving me a blowjob in my car, and I ended up paying p1, 500 pesos to the cops as a "thank you" for not filing some lude charges against me.

However, in my case, the ladyboy was certainly not part of any scam. I have never seen anyone in my entire life more petrified then she was while she was locked up in the cell (I, of course, was treated quite comfortably.) I actually fet sorry for her. No doubt, her payment was going to be far worse then 1500 pesos.

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Greetings everyone,

I am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.

Please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information.

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Mjolnir 213
05-13-10, 17:33
I shall repeat myself. Don't even frigg'n talke to anybody on the street. Never ever. I wear sunglasses during the day so they cannot see where I am looking and at night I make no eye contact whatsoever. Never, ever deal with anybody on the street.

And I question the truth of the story as the poster didn't even mention the place he was taken to.

Funny.. Im sure his post said:

"So we start walking away from Makati Ave., towards Kalayaan, passed it (I think), and came upon "New Seoul Hotel" or something like that. We go to reception, and she tells me to hand the 500p to the reception, which I did."

Unless I imagined that.

:)

WB

Puerto La Cruz
05-14-10, 00:56
Funny, I think his post said that too. At what level is your competency in comprenending English. He clearly met this "person" on the street.

Key Master
05-14-10, 05:59
Funny, I think his post said that too. At what level is your competency in comprenending English. He clearly met this "person" on the street.

I think he was pointing out that you said his story had no validity since he didn't say where he was taken to and he was showing you that the victim said New Seoul Hotel.

Mjolnir 213
05-14-10, 12:55
Funny, I think his post said that too. At what level is your competency in comprenending English. He clearly met this "person" on the street.

My comprehension of English is just fine thank you.

Take a moment or 3 to think about it if you must.

:)

WB

Mjolnir 213
05-14-10, 13:02
I think he was pointing out that you said his story had no validity since he didn't say where he was taken to and he was showing you that the victim said New Seoul Hotel.

Simply...Yes.

Byung
05-20-10, 09:31
yeah, so the next day i went to visit my fiancee. i even thought about telling her what happened, but eventually realized how stupid that would be. i just wanted to feel some love and "warmth" i guess. she provided that... and i spent another week with her.

i am back in the usa now, just arrived today. spent my last two nights in makati, and did look around burgos st., but just went to the korean-owned ktv in the basement area of the makati palace hotel. just spent a few hours there with a sweet young thing.

as for me being gay, lol -- yeah, right. amazing how someone could just come out and accuse me of that. read my past reports, spanning over five years, i think... i'm not gay.

btw, normally i do check isg on a several-times-a-week basis, but prior that incident in makati, i was with my fiancee, and using her computer, and with her or her family always around, i didn't want them seeing me surfing on isg. i figured, what new report could there be that was really useful? unfortunately, i missed the first story... had i read that story this never would have happened. =(

anyway, i'm feeling better now, and i've told two of my close friends what happened. the real jokester, even he said a part of him wants to laugh, but he realizes it's really messed up because yes... i was raped and robbed.

Sky Ryder
05-21-10, 07:08
Arrived yesterday, only to find that I had come to town one day too early and would be on my own for the night....too bad, so sad for me.....well maybe not!
Got was has become the customary great referral from some of the senior members of this forum. As one would expect the info was right on target. I had been to Burgos once and was interested in something a little more upscale, so went to Havana about 5 pm for a beer. Got some good intel from a REALLY cute waitress and ooggled a few of the lovelies wondering the mall.....started chatting with another gent from abroad and he gave me some good info on tagged. He said he was meeting a gal from there in an hour. He wasn't much into the P4P scene, but seemed to have a lot of good luck with "freebies".....well he thought they were freebies. I let him have his fantasy.
Anyway went for a shower and came back about 9:30 got a table outside and waited for the fun to begin. I will admit, I thought things got started earlier than around midnight. One other thing is that if you hesitate with a girl you find hot, you will be out of luck it seems. It was a bit of a sausage fest last night for a while, then things picked up. Eyed one cutie, but within 2 mins of saying hello, she had already asked me to take her and her friend home. Now I am understanding of the "biz", but even I need a little foreplay....plus the number she quoted for ST was enough for a weekend....
I was just about ready to leave when I spied two new arrivals at the outside bar. Started chatting outside, then moved inside to dance a little and then to a table. I was having a hard time deciding which one I wanted to make a run at, but one of them kind of separated herself and the other seemed a little distracted. I told them to decide what they wanted to do, but I wasn't going to pay double the price and even the single girl asking price was a little high. In the end I took one back with me and she was a real treat. She had a cute little round butt and was a full on GFE, no holes (or holds) barred firecracker. Afterwards, as I lay in a molten puddle of man mass. She sheepishly ask if it was alright if she spent the night. Who was I to deny her this simple request.
Slept like a baby and was awakened by the feel of a soft warm thigh inching up my crotch. I asked her if she knew what would happen if that kind of behavior continued....she replied in the affirmative. Not to disappoint her, I was able to rejoin the battle, which within seconds of her proclaiming her arrival, came a knock on the door for room service. I suspect the clever little guy was waiting for the opportune moment to knock. He missed! Anyway she left, smiling, as was I.
Tonight I will enjoy the GF, for a few days, but may try to spend another evening in Makati prior to leaving the islands. I have heard that some upscale beauties can be found in the 4th floor bar in the Shangra La.....any truth to the rumor?
Oh by the way they were filming a fashion show in Greenbelt 5 this morning, while the models body types are not my favorite, some of the faces are extraordinary as one would expect. Actually got two numbers by chatting up some of the wannabies hanging around watching the show, which IMHO where much hotter! Sometimes stuff just works out.......
Thanks again to WB, et al

Red Kilt
05-21-10, 07:30
Arrived yesterday, only to find that I had come to town one day too early and would be on my own for the night....too bad, so sad for me.....well maybe not!........................................................................... I have heard that some upscale beauties can be found in the 4th floor bar in the Shangra La.....any truth to the rumor?
Sometimes stuff just works out.......

As I have said numerous times on ISG, just sitting back without a strict plan and with an open mind and smirk on your face can bring all sorts of delights

You mean Conway's Bar on the SECONd floor of Shangri-la . It can be hit or miss. I have been there when there have been one or two very ordinary girls trawling at the bar, and other nights there have been several very presentable ones. They usually assume you are staying in the hotel so they have high expectations regarding comfort levels and price to seek, but I have also met one there who arrived late and sensing the bar was about to close made me an offer I couldn't refuse. I have since met her a few times outside the bar and the last time she insisted that it was a freebie so you just never know.

Puerto La Cruz
05-22-10, 22:23
Although my 6th trip to the Phils, this will be my first trip to the Burgos bars. I'm looking for a "respectable" Burgos area hotel, maximum $100.00 a night with outdoor pool. I gotta be careful here cuz the gf's father contracts out with the better hotels in Manila and I'm sure he will inquire as to where I am staying. Even a 10 minute cab ride away is fine. Any help out there?

Byung
05-23-10, 07:41
Although my 6th trip to the Phils, this will be my first trip to the Burgos bars. I'm looking for a "respectable" Burgos area hotel, maximum $100.00 a night with outdoor pool. I gotta be careful here cuz the gf's father contracts out with the better hotels in Manila and I'm sure he will inquire as to where I am staying. Even a 10 minute cab ride away is fine. Any help out there?

I'm not sure what you mean by "respectable", but the Makati Palace Hotel is on the corner of Burgos and some other street, maybe two blocks from Makati Ave. There's an internet cafe outside on the 1st floor (or basement?) area for 40p/hour, a Korean-owned KTV with some nice girls, and a 24-hour convenience store. They also have a pool, I think. I've never stayed there, but it was the only hotel I saw in that area that seemed "respectable" as in... not sleazy... just the area is sleazy.

Horntoad
05-23-10, 21:47
Although my 6th trip to the Phils, this will be my first trip to the Burgos bars. I'm looking for a "respectable" Burgos area hotel, maximum $100.00 a night with outdoor pool. I gotta be careful here cuz the gf's father contracts out with the better hotels in Manila and I'm sure he will inquire as to where I am staying. Even a 10 minute cab ride away is fine. Any help out there?

You might want to consider the Dusit or New World which are right next to and in Greenbelt Mall. You can get New World for less than one hundred and it is right across the street from Phoenix One MP. Dusit might be $110. Both are a five or ten minute cab ride to Burgos ave. If you stay on Burgos Ave or right around it, it probably would raise eyebrows with your GF's dad.

Member #3428
05-23-10, 22:13
You might want to consider the Dusitmany ISG guys stay at dusit. They are very friendly to overnight guests and looks respectful to business associates and families.

Down side is the girls assume they get a higher price if you stay there then other locations due to the cost and the presumption of a higher status.

Pointpanic
05-24-10, 03:49
Although my 6th trip to the Phils, this will be my first trip to the Burgos bars. I'm looking for a "respectable" Burgos area hotel, maximum $100.00 a night with outdoor pool. I gotta be careful here cuz the gf's father contracts out with the better hotels in Manila and I'm sure he will inquire as to where I am staying. Even a 10 minute cab ride away is fine. Any help out there?

Makati Palace may not be "respectable" in that it is within two blocks of six or seven take out bars and it is ON Burgos Street. I stay there because it is so close to the action.

Key Master
05-24-10, 11:05
Although my 6th trip to the Phils, this will be my first trip to the Burgos bars. I'm looking for a "respectable" Burgos area hotel, maximum $100.00 a night with outdoor pool. I gotta be careful here cuz the gf's father contracts out with the better hotels in Manila and I'm sure he will inquire as to where I am staying. Even a 10 minute cab ride away is fine. Any help out there?

I say City Garden Hotel. It's on Makati Ave and one short block to Burgos right behind the hotel. A lot of companies send their employees there to stay. The elevators can take forever there though. They got a very small pool though in the upper levels.

Viajando Musico
05-24-10, 16:43
There are many "respectable" hotels in Makati with short taxi ride, but be careful, short taxi ride could mean very long ride during peak traffic time. There is a new hotel resides in the new Jolla Tower whos name escape me in Rockwell for about $100/night. Rockwell is a prestigious subdivision in Makati. It is very close to Burgo Street, and walkable if you are fit and don’t mind the heat during the day. Or 3-4 min. taxi ride without having to go through the heavy traffic part of Makati. I don’t think you girl friend’s family will suspect anything if you stay in this place. They might even like the convenience of the location, right next to Power Plant Mall.

Wicked Roger
05-25-10, 23:41
many ISG guys stay at dusit. They are very friendly to overnight guests and looks respectful to business associates and families.

Down side is the girls assume they get a higher price if you stay there then other locations due to the cost and the presumption of a higher status.
And if you use the club rooms you get access to the free snacks and drinks on the mezzanine floor...and can meet like minded professional business men like Tansak and me for business meetings on our favourite topic...most recently there were 4 mongers of the board (from differnet parts of the world) discussing their favourite topic doing just that.....

The girls ate the snacks, drank the jiuce etc while we nattered compared notes (well am sure they were as well)

As for pricing, that can be true but a good boy scout is always prepared and makes sure price is sorted before he says Dusit.

Key Master
05-28-10, 01:31
Last night after cruising Burgos to watch as the women got off work, I started heading back to my hotel. A bakla approached me, maybe the same one as the other 2 guys, not sure and asked me if I wanted a woman. He said only 500 pesos and I said no a few times and he went away, My hotel is a small one like 2 blocks off Burgos. So I am walking there and watching myself as always as there is a little street kid behind me and I pretend to look into a store and he continues on. I continue on and about to turn corner where my hotel is and the same bakla earlier comes out of nowhere asking to find me a woman and that he has many for 500 pesos. I say no and continue on. He grabs my hand and offers me free sex because I'm handsome. Then offers to blow me. I got to my hotel and he scampered off.

Just a heads up that this bakla was super aggressive. I kept my cool but I think this bakla will eventually [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off who may be very drunk or what not.

Cheesemark75
05-29-10, 21:56
Last night after cruising Burgos to watch as the women got off work, I started heading back to my hotel. A bakla approached me, maybe the same one as the other 2 guys, not sure and asked me if I wanted a woman. He said only 500 pesos and I said no a few times and he went away, My hotel is a small one like 2 blocks off Burgos. So I am walking there and watching myself as always as there is a little street kid behind me and I pretend to look into a store and he continues on. I continue on and about to turn corner where my hotel is and the same bakla earlier comes out of nowhere asking to find me a woman and that he has many for 500 pesos. I say no and continue on. He grabs my hand and offers me free sex because I'm handsome. Then offers to blow me. I got to my hotel and he scampered off.

Just a heads up that this bakla was super aggressive. I kept my cool but I think this bakla will eventually [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) someone off who may be very drunk or what not.That is funny. I've also been hit on by some of them. It is really annoying and disgusting. They normally pay to blow local boys.

What really pisses me is that they have no concept of a "Gay-dar". They just keep hitting on straight men.

Amavida
05-30-10, 02:10
That is funny. I've also been hit on by some of them. It is really annoying and disgusting. They normally pay to blow local boys.

What really pisses me is that they have no concept of a "Gay-dar". They just keep hitting on straight men.Lady boy's are everywhere here. Instead of getting pissed off you need to learn to just tune them out just like beggars, pushy real estate sales people, blatantly corrupt officials, hyper macho men, the incessant heat etc etc

AV

Key Master
05-30-10, 03:00
Lady boy's are everywhere here. Instead of getting pissed off you need to learn to just tune them out just like beggars, pushy real estate sales people, blatantly corrupt officials, hyper macho men, the incessant heat etc etc

AV

It's pretty hard to tune them out. They get right in your face, and move whatever direction you do a lot of times or they just grab you. They have no qualms. This one followed me for over 2 blocks and came from other side of street and made his strongest attempt when no one was around and it was a dark area. Pretty hard to tune out as maybe more around or a setup somewhere.

Run Mann
05-30-10, 05:35
This one followed me for over 2 blocks and came from other side of street and made his strongest attempt when no one was around and it was a dark area.


Good idea not to venture into dark areas where no one is (visibly) around.

Sky Ryder
05-30-10, 07:34
I returned to Manila from my visit to see the GF, and because I didn't leave the province early enough missed my flight out. Too bad for me....well maybe not.
Found a decent hotel thru a referral and wound up 1 bolck off burgos. It is not my favorite location, but it is only for one night. As it happens the nice young lady I had met a week earlier had been sending me sms asking if I was going to return to Manila this week. I wanted to see her again, but a part of me wanted to see what the P4P scene is like around EDSA, Burgos, etc. I told her that I had an early flight (true) and wasn't sure if I was up to going out. She assured me that she would make sure I was "up" for it. I decided to postpone the decision and wondered burgos around 6pm and stopped in a few of the bars. I know it was early, but there were almost no girls in most and they wanted 60-80p for a SM. I stopped and had a beer in one place (Rascal's I think), and remembered why I don't like the whole "bar" scene. Of course I was one of only two customers, and was instantly surround by four girls, and one lady I thought was a "mommy" only to find out she was a "receptionist".....didn't know what that meant.
The short story is that I was told the bar fine was 2100p and the girls name their own price. I found out the receptionist is really a dancer whose "use by date" has expired and in her words, "I am too fat to dance, but I give you good service"! Now that is a great sales technique. She told me that I her bar fine was also 2100p. I assume there was some wiggle room, in that figure. I know there was a fair amount of "wiggle" in her figure....maybe that should be "jiggle".
I know I didn't give it a fair trial, but this is the 3rd visit to Burgos, and unless I strike out everywhere else I won't return. Not a good ROI for my taste.
Sent sms to the lady in question, and in an hour we were headed to dinner in the Fort area. Nice dinner, and true to her word, she was able to achieve the stated goal.....as was I! In fact she found it quite thrilling to be serviced from behind while leaning on the railing of my 19th floor balcony. Amazingly enough, so did I. I left the next morning, early, with her curled up sleeping comfortably, and a pleasant memory of the night before.
I still haven't tried EDSA or made it L.A. Cafe. I know I will have to go, just for the experience factor, but from all accounts it looks as though they are the same overpriced drinks, high pressure girls as Burgos. I think I prefer Havana Cafe.
This girl did tell me that the management of Havana's has told the doormen to refuse entrance into the cafe for some of the girls, that they don't like so many girls inside. I also think they are trying to keep out some of the girls that tend to cause "drama" often, and maintain a little lower key profile.

Key Master
05-30-10, 12:01
Good idea not to venture into dark areas where no one is (visibly) around.

4 am, a lot of businesses that light street up were closed. 1 minute walk from Burgos to get there.

On Assignment
06-03-10, 05:30
I drove by Topaz massage today, an iconic MP in Makati on Yakal street which has been in business for decades, and noticed it is gone. Building is now being renovated. This place was a dump but the girls were definitely full service, most with big tits and good attitudes. Does anyone know if it relocated and where?

Thanks

Terwagne
06-04-10, 01:23
Arrived at Bottoms at 9 pm, around 15 girls with half of them on stage and 5 customers. Girls not pushy at all and many of them very good looking. More girls arriving. Spotted little Celine, with perfect body and very nice rack and she joind me for a drink. Her hands were quickly all over me. The new girls uniform is a mini skirt and suspenders that are supposed to cover their breasts. In practical terms they are topless. By 11 the bar had a party atmosphere with loads of girls, a lot of quality and a 4 to 1 girl customer ratio.

Paid the 4200 P bill for drinks and barfine and took C to my hotel. Very talented girl, great kisser, excellent sex. Recommended. Expensive (4000 P for C.) but a fun night.

Gogobarlover
06-05-10, 12:43
Arrived at Bottoms at 9 pm, around 15 girls with half of them on stage and 5 customers. Girls not pushy at all and many of them very good looking. More girls arriving. Spotted little Celine, with perfect body and very nice rack and she joind me for a drink. Her hands were quickly all over me. The new girls uniform is a mini skirt and suspenders that are supposed to cover their breasts. In practical terms they are topless. By 11 the bar had a party atmosphere with loads of girls, a lot of quality and a 4 to 1 girl customer ratio.

Paid the 4200 P bill for drinks and barfine and took C to my hotel. Very talented girl, great kisser, excellent sex. Recommended. Expensive (4000 P for C.) but a fun night.

I agree. I enjoyed my visit to Bottoms Bar on P Burgos also. The BF was expensive but, the girl really aimed to please. She would go at it and not get tired. The place is pretty big with alot of girls. Definitely a bar to check out if you go to P Burgos St.

Sky Ryder
06-05-10, 17:37
Arrived at Bottoms at 9 pm, around 15 girls with half of them on stage and 5 customers. Girls not pushy at all and many of them very good looking. More girls arriving. Spotted little Celine, with perfect body and very nice rack and she joind me for a drink. Her hands were quickly all over me. The new girls uniform is a mini skirt and suspenders that are supposed to cover their breasts. In practical terms they are topless. By 11 the bar had a party atmosphere with loads of girls, a lot of quality and a 4 to 1 girl customer ratio.

Paid the 4200 P bill for drinks and barfine and took C to my hotel. Very talented girl, great kisser, excellent sex. Recommended. Expensive (4000 P for C.) but a fun night.


I just want to make sure that I read your post correctly. Your tab for the night was over 8000 pesos all in? I assume that was LT?
If that is correct, I am not sure if I should feel really good or bad about the 2100 P bar fine and another 2100P for the girl I almost choked on a short while ago.
It is really good that you had a good time and enjoyed the lady, I just can't help thinking that is a least a LONG weekend or maybe a whole week with the gal I found at Havana last month. Of course she did get tired after the second round, but heck so was I.......:-))

WestCoast1
06-05-10, 20:43
Arrived at Bottoms at 9 pm, around 15 girls with half of them on stage and 5 customers. Girls not pushy at all and many of them very good looking. More girls arriving. Spotted little Celine, with perfect body and very nice rack and she joind me for a drink. Her hands were quickly all over me. The new girls uniform is a mini skirt and suspenders that are supposed to cover their breasts. In practical terms they are topless. By 11 the bar had a party atmosphere with loads of girls, a lot of quality and a 4 to 1 girl customer ratio.

Paid the 4200 P bill for drinks and barfine and took C to my hotel. Very talented girl, great kisser, excellent sex. Recommended. Expensive (4000 P for C.) but a fun night.P2100 barfine, + more for the girl? Oh my! Her dream come true! My last pass thru Manila saw p1500 and 2000 LT (I rarely bother ST in Manila, the girls balk at P1200 for ST, but many are fine after midnight at 1500 LT). About 1/3 of my LT's stay into the afternooon. Yet another wild report of the Burgos bars, where the girls chat up a 'tip' before departing?

On a related note, a gent on this board recommended to me a Burgos bar near Burgos/Makati Ave, I think its Wild West? Cowboy-ish theme, small bar. He said the bf was p2200. When I got there I was the only customer, about 11pm. No girls. The mamasan ran to get about 6 girls to dance. She gave me a wonderful massage. I bought her a drink and we talked. Finally she called a girl over, and brought out a game (can't remember the name of the game - Janga?). They set up some domino-like wood pieces on the bar. You take turns, removing a piece at a time. If it collapses, you lose. The bet was a drink for the girl. The other girls came and watched the game intently. Finally I lost, and bought the gal a drink. The other girls split in the back. Mamasan chatted with the girl and myself. I asked the bf, p3000. Ouch. But, the girl was pretty, and witty. I said yes to the mama. She said she would be right back, and walked off. The girl said I will give her p2000 tomorrow. I nearly fainted. A bit drunk and agreeing to p3000 was one thing, but p5000 total? I threw money on the bar to pay for the drinks and walked off. Crazy. Stepped outside for some fresh air, taxi'd to malate and LA Cafe.

Manta Ray
06-06-10, 01:11
If that is correct, I am not sure if I should feel really good or bad about the 2100 P bar fine and another 2100P for the girl I almost choked on a short while ago.

SR, please clarify for us: Did you almost choke on the 4200P bill, or did you almost choke on the girl? We are hoping it's the former as the mind boggles at the possible causes for the latter!

;-)Manta Ray

Sky Ryder
06-06-10, 07:39
SR, please clarify for us: Did you almost choke on the 4200P bill, or did you almost choke on the girl? We are hoping it's the former as the mind boggles at the possible causes for the latter!

;-)Manta Ray


Manta, thanks for the personal concern, it was not well written!
It was in fact the tab for the girl and bar the I found "difficult to swallow", I never even "tasted" the girl as a result.
Maybe I am just getting to be "cheap bastard" in my old age......:-))

Manta Ray
06-06-10, 08:15
Manta, thanks for the personal concern, it was not well written!
It was in fact the tab for the girl and bar the I found "difficult to swallow", I never even "tasted" the girl as a result.
Maybe I am just getting to be "cheap bastard" in my old age......:-))

SR, thanks for putting us out of our misery with your explanation. I am indeed relieved, though these days in Makati, 4200P, inclusive of BF and gal's 'tip', is definitely on the low end of the scale. Alas, I suppose the only other option is to go more 'downmarket', perhaps in Ermita (LAC) or in one of the malls. Good luck with the search!

MR

Sun And Sand 3
06-09-10, 06:51
Threesome!

My GF and myself have been talking about having a threesome for ages. And with a recent trip to Manila we contacted some people we found on the web who seemed to specialize in "Duo" girl services. Dealing with them was straight forward, they recommended Missy, who had "broken in" a few other couples in the past. So with increasing excitement, we arrange to meet her.

After meeting her, we walked back into the Dusit, where we had already decided to have something to eat, drink, to try and relax before going upstairs. Sitting in the very quiet bar at 6pm with a escort was quite a thrill. I am sure all the staff knew what Missy's real job was, but everyone was polite at least to our faces. Missy was hungry, after a 3 hour bus trip from Cavite to Manila.

After an hour we went up to the room. There does seem to be quite a heavy security presence in the Dusit, so we split up into me, and then my gf and Missy. Once in the room, we sat down on the couch and carried on chatting, as in the open bar it was difficult to talk about intimate subjects without the fear of being overheard.

So with G&Ts in hand, Missy started putting us at easy telling us about who she had slept with; This was highly entertaining, and quite erotic. As my GF is a tagalog speaker also, communication was very easy, Missy did in fact speak good english, and was quite happy to tell us more stories. My GF started to relax and I hoped this was the start of good things to come.

After about 1 hour, this was starting to get a little tiresome, and the image she had originally painted of being a "simple, girl, single mum, saving to go back to college" (please stop sniggering) was rapidly becoming one of a money grabbing, loudmouthed girl, who we were thankful knew neither our proper names, or I'd not have any means of identifying us. After listening to the saga of her cousin who was run off with a 55 year old American and just received 700K peso's in presents, reminded us we were dealing with a professional, and we needed to act the same.

After what seemed like fore-ever, my GF suggested we started. By now I had really lost the mood, but the two girls went for separate showers, and slowly my enthusiasm returned. When I stepped out out the shower I was quite in the mood.

My GF and I had agreed that we would only have sex together, but that Missy could give me a BJ if the situation arose. So imagine my surprise when my GF sat on my face as I lay on the bed, as Missy started working on me below.

I tried to get Missy and my GF to interact, but she was more interested in trying to give me the fastest BJ in history; Despite me saying to her to slow down, and to take her time. She was on the stop-watch. Time to change positions.

With my GF on her back, and Missy pushed in between her legs, I watched with a smile as she started licking and sucking my GFs pussy. I started on my GF's boobs, something she usually really likes and can often have an orgasm at just this. After about 5 minutes, my GF whispered to me, "She's not doing anything – just putting her mouth there". A little more instruction, and still no improvement in the quality of service. Time for a new position.

Missionary, with me on top of my GF, we had a good few minutes – quite turned on with Missy watching us. Then without prompting Missy joined in, and started kissing my GF's boobs. This was a real turn on, a few minutes later they were both kissing and running their hands over me. I could not hold on any more and pumped my load into my GF.

As we lay their after, my GF said "can we send her home now? " despite having paid for 12 hours (5K Peso), I too was happy to get rid of her.

At 1030pm she left the room, only to get detained by security downstairs. A quick conformation phone call released her.

Would we do this again?

Yes

Would we pick the same girl?

No

Value for money?

No – about 2K would have been right.

These girls offer Web-Cam lesbian shows. Missy admitted they just mess around. At $35 per hour for you.

Wicked Roger
06-09-10, 19:54
Threesome!

My GF and myself have been talking about having a threesome for ages. And with a recent trip to Manila we contacted some people we found on the web who seemed to specialize in "Duo" girl services. Dealing with them was straight forward, they recommended Missy, who had "broken in" a few other couples in the past. So with increasing excitement, we arrange to meet her.



Hard luck SS3....did you try AFF as plenty there and IMHO they don't mess about. Next time lets hope our paths cross as my fav does not mess around and if not that, I know some bisexual sisters and their friends who would make you gf orgasm...they live to devirginise girls :D

Dusit - IMHO security is outside not in and is there for the guests, and I have gone to the room there with 3 girls and no one bats an eyelid....the Japanese guys tend to get the girls to show the ID I haev noticed...but us horny old kinky westerners

Better luck next time

Dave Dogman
07-08-10, 22:19
Burgos barhopping at Shampoo Bar was so boring. I most of the girls working there were trying to trick me into giving them a tip for 100 pesos so they can go eat. Its amazing how they swarm over you like hungry rats. I was the only guest. I billed out and left this BORING bar. I then went to billboard bar it was also empty i did not even buy a drink.

Rubio Tonto
07-17-10, 11:09
Anyone seen this cutie at Bronx Basement Bar recently? She went by the name of Shaine or Shane several months ago. Lost my cellphone before I came back home, and it had her number in it. Too bad because she was a pretty decent GFE. Returning to the Phils in a couple months and I want to see her again.

Thanks

Tally Wacker
07-17-10, 17:23
I might recognize her if you had some fully nude photos to share.


Anyone seen this cutie at Bronx Basement Bar recently? She went by the name of Shaine or Shane several months ago. Lost my cellphone before I came back home, and it had her number in it. Too bad because she was a pretty decent GFE. Returning to the Phils in a couple months and I want to see her again.

Thanks

Rubio Tonto
07-19-10, 03:11
I might recognize her if you had some fully nude photos to share.

LOL! Bastos! I wish!

Asianatic
07-30-10, 21:45
A couple of questions...

Years ago, mid nineties I'm talking about...I had such a lot of fun in a great discotheque on a corner hotel, I believe it was at the basement of the Intercontinental in Makati. Anyone know if this club still exists and if still gets goin ?
Unfortunately I'll be staying just 1 night in Makati but I wanna make the best out of it without losing too much time to do my research. It will be a tuesday night. A place as Havana Cafe will it be busy mid-week ?
I'll be staying at the New World Makati. Is this place gf.

I find it very amusing to score in a nightclub with a FL or office worker, any advice where would be THE place(s) to be ?

How about afternoon fun... any recommondation ?

Many many thanks brothers.

Robbaf
07-30-10, 22:54
Burgos barhopping at Shampoo Bar was so boring. I most of the girls working there were trying to trick me into giving them a tip for 100 pesos so they can go eat. Its amazing how they swarm over you like hungry rats. I was the only guest. I billed out and left this BORING bar. I then went to billboard bar it was also empty i did not even buy a drink.
Isn't this a lady boy bar:(

Paul C
07-31-10, 06:27
Isn't this a lady boy bar:(It used to be. It was converted to a "normal" girly bar around December '09 (I think). Mixed Nuts is now the ladyboy bar on the Burgos Strip.

Whatsgoingon
07-31-10, 14:46
A couple of questions...

Years ago, mid nineties I'm talking about...I had such a lot of fun in a great discotheque on a corner hotel, I believe it was at the basement of the Intercontinental in Makati. Anyone know if this club still exists and if still gets goin ?
Unfortunately I'll be staying just 1 night in Makati but I wanna make the best out of it without losing too much time to do my research. It will be a tuesday night. A place as Havana Cafe will it be busy mid-week ?
I'll be staying at the New World Makati. Is this place gf.

I find it very amusing to score in a nightclub with a FL or office worker, any advice where would be THE place(s) to be ?

How about afternoon fun... any recommondation ?

Many many thanks brothers.

Hey Man, I stayed at the intercon during my recent visits to Makati. There is a night club downstairs, you enter via the pool area, called Icon. I ended up here every night of both trips with whatever I had picked up at Havana Cafe. On weekends its packed, even on Tuesday night it was quite busy.

There were always FL present and some absolute stunners. There are also a couple of ladyboys normally too.

Its very much up to date nightclub, drinks are surprisingly cheap, music is quite good unless you are there on R&B nite and like r&b.

I always got in for free as I was with someone they seemed to know.....not sure it there is a cover charge, enjoy!

Red Kilt
07-31-10, 15:12
A couple of questions...

Years ago, mid nineties I'm talking about...I had such a lot of fun in a great discotheque on a corner hotel, I believe it was at the basement of the Intercontinental in Makati. Anyone know if this club still exists and if still gets going?

I reckon you are talking about "Giraffe".
It was a fantastic pick-up place, always crowded, situated on the corner diagonally opposite the Mercury Drug that is on the corner of Glorietta just along from the Hard Rock end. It is not too far from Intercon but was between Intercon and Shangri-la.
Giraffe closed, was renovated and re-opened as a nothing place.

This was before the new Greenbelt was built (1996 - 2000).
Cafe Havana has pretty much replaced it. HRC (back bar) and TGIF (around the center bar) occasionally have FLs on the hunt but they are usually hardened types and they end up at Havana anyway

Econo Tech
08-01-10, 08:17
I always got in for free as I was with someone they seemed to know.....not sure it there is a cover charge, enjoy!Are you talking of ICON? I attended a sort of Black Tie party, hosted by a friend's friend, and it was a private party. Seems that place gets booked by the high rollers in Philippines for private parties. Often.

Firebird
08-27-10, 10:48
Gentlemen - what is the "rate" these days for ST and LT "service"??? - I do not want to overpay nor cheap out or upset the "market"

Amavida
08-27-10, 14:34
Gentlemen - what is the "rate" these days for ST and LT "service"??? - I do not want to overpay nor cheap out or upset the "market"I dont have any experience of ST in Manila, I usually have to kick them out the next afternoon. You could ask a taxi driver to take you to a 'Casa'. Yuck not my cup of tea..

LT maybe as little as Php1000 - 2000 for a freelancer ranging up to Pro's in Burgos who may cost you as much as Php3000 bar fine (not including lady drinks in the bar before hand) + Php3000 'tip' to the girl next morning. If you really want to [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) money away you can rent a chick from an 'escort' agency, the sky is the limit there.

AV

Devils 1
08-27-10, 16:47
Gentlemen - what is the "rate" these days for ST and LT "service"??? - I do not want to overpay nor cheap out or upset the "market"I would estimate that ST rates are 1000 - 1500 php and LT is 2500-3000 php. Of course this will vary by location, quality of the girl and most importantly your negotiating skills.

I am sure this will start a firestorm of debate but use this as a starting point until you get your feet wet, then let your own judgement take over.

But for sure you should never pay more than 3000 php anywhere in manila. If someone demands it laugh in their face and walk off!

Firebird
08-28-10, 03:29
Thanks for the feedback - provides a good "reference" point

Lil Buckaroo
08-28-10, 05:29
Gentlemen - what is the "rate" these days for ST and LT "service"??? - I do not want to overpay nor cheap out or upset the "market"Business seems to be quite slow on Burgos these days. The recent Hi-jacking will do little to boost it. In my experience, many of the girls in Burgos bars can be convinced to meet you after their work for "SO" ("Service Outside" or more colloquially "Sneak Out"). As long as the Mama isn't keeping an eagle eye, you can slip a girl your cell phone number and make your arrangements when she has a chance to get to her phone.

The bars seem to be turning a SLIGHTLY blind eye toward such shenanigans as well, as long as you have bought a few drinks (especially for the Mamasan).

I have a collection of numbers now, and can simply text a little "friend" to stop by my room after work.

Pros are that you can skip the barfine entirely. Once you have set yourself up, you can just relax and drink, until it's time to make your rendezvous.

Cons are that you can't be certain that your selected friend will get back to you, and you may wait for her until 4:30am just to be disappointed.

I typically give the girls a 2000 peso tip, and none have ever tried to bump me up from that.

This is certainly not the "usual" way of doing things on Burgos, but I present it as an alternative method and an option that will work well for some.

Willie25j
08-31-10, 23:21
Hello fellow friends,

I have a much needed vacation coming up. I will be arriving on the 12th of September and leaving on the 23rd. 1st time visiting. Found a vacation apartment across from the greenbelt shopping mall area. I didnt want to stay in a hotel, so choose the apartment so I can come and go freely. I just want to know how do a black guy go about his businness there and where are the pickup spots and what should I bargain for. Since I have been in Europe and Central America and know the going rates there. Also Im doing research on weither or not I will make the move to costa rica or the PI in 6 yrs when I retire from my job, but nowhere near s.s. yet. I dont want to drive up the prices. any info will be helpful. What should I expect like how much is a taxi to the spots from the Greenbelt Mall Area, and is the Greenbelt a safe place to walk at night with out the worrys about being robbed or scammed.

Sincerely a Fellow Monger,

Willie25j

Anneelke
09-01-10, 12:33
Rule Number 1 in taxis if you want to do it correctly:-

Look for the meter and make sure it is switched on.

It is up to you when they give you plenty of excuses why they won't put the meter on or why it is not working.

Flagfall is 30 pesos (less than USD$1) and for most places around Manila the total trip will between 100 and 200 pesos. (USD$2 and USD$4)

You may want to have small notes such as 100 and 50 pesos as they will not want to give change from 1,000 pesos notes possible.

The main difference is the Yellow taxis from the airports which have slightly different flagfall and charge but still cheap compared to most other parts of the world.

If you have any further questions, I can give you the email and cellphone of one of our lady staffers who lives there and they can help you get local rates so send us a personal message if you are interested.

Regards,

Rob


Hello fellow friends,

I have a much needed vacation coming up. I will be arriving on the 12th of September and leaving on the 23rd. 1st time visiting. Found a vacation apartment across from the greenbelt shopping mall area. I didnt want to stay in a hotel, so choose the apartment so I can come and go freely. I just want to know how do a black guy go about his businness there and where are the pickup spots and what should I bargain for. Since I have been in Europe and Central America and know the going rates there. Also Im doing research on weither or not I will make the move to costa rica or the PI in 6 yrs when I retire from my job, but nowhere near s.s. yet. I dont want to drive up the prices. any info will be helpful. What should I expect like how much is a taxi to the spots from the Greenbelt Mall Area, and is the Greenbelt a safe place to walk at night with out the worrys about being robbed or scammed.

Sincerely a Fellow Monger,

Willie25j

Starchild2012
09-01-10, 16:25
Hello fellow friends,

I have a much needed vacation coming up. I will be arriving on the 12th of September and leaving on the 23rd. 1st time visiting. Found a vacation apartment across from the greenbelt shopping mall area. I didnt want to stay in a hotel, so choose the apartment so I can come and go freely. I just want to know how do a black guy go about his businness there and where are the pickup spots and what should I bargain for. Since I have been in Europe and Central America and know the going rates there. Also Im doing research on weither or not I will make the move to costa rica or the PI in 6 yrs when I retire from my job, but nowhere near s.s. yet. I dont want to drive up the prices. any info will be helpful. What should I expect like how much is a taxi to the spots from the Greenbelt Mall Area, and is the Greenbelt a safe place to walk at night with out the worrys about being robbed or scammed.

Sincerely a Fellow Monger,

Willie25j


Willie....Greenbelt is an upmarket area where the rich and famous hangout...You could compare Makati with Manhattan not in size or economy but the general idea where all the big companies have offices and rich people have apartments.

You won't find discrimination in PH, I have seen lots and lots of black guys having fun in Manila.

The place nearest to your apt. would be Cafe havana...its a freelancer hangout place..where you can pick up girls for 1000 to 1500 all night or 2000 pesos depending upon your negotiating skills. go after 11

address

Café Havana, Greenbelt 3
1/F Greenbelt 3, Paseo de Roxas cor. Legaspi St., Ayala Center
Makati City, Metro Manila
Philippines
http://il.youtube.com/watch?v=aq29pOKrrMM

If you go with a regular girl or bar girl in greenbelt mall, expect to spend close to 1000 pesos for dinner each :) take them to cheaper hang out place in Malate.

Regular girly bar places are Asia entertainment complex..where Koreans and Japanese hangout...great girls but expensive..any taxi driver will take you.

For cheaper options go to burgos or EDSA complex...which are a regular gogo bars set up with many bars lined up in one stretch. EDSA is a complex with only gogo bars...good option to be had.....I would suggest EDSA is the best place to go of all places. No rip off in prices...always fun to be in there.


One thing you need to be careful while in Manila are taxi drivers....be sure to check that the meter is on...and pay them the exact fare...else whatever is left could be their tip if you dont' ask for change :)

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if you have time...take a early ride to Angeles city, where you will be in paradise with over 2000 bars girls to choice from 50 bars....

Good Luck

Carmex
09-01-10, 16:50
Hey Man, I stayed at the intercon during my recent visits to Makati. There is a night club downstairs, you enter via the pool area, called Icon. I ended up here every night of both trips with whatever I had picked up at Havana Cafe. On weekends its packed, even on Tuesday night it was quite busy.

There were always FL present and some absolute stunners. There are also a couple of ladyboys normally too.

Its very much up to date nightclub, drinks are surprisingly cheap, music is quite good unless you are there on R&B nite and like r&b.

I always got in for free as I was with someone they seemed to know.....not sure it there is a cover charge, enjoy!

Went to the club with a couple of girls I picked up from Havana Cafe last July. The place was simply crawling with talent. I met some really cool people but didn't hook up with anyone. Funny thing was I met the two I originally came with out at the Taxi line at about 7am.

We all went back to Cherry Blossoms for breakfast, but I wasn't feeling it, so I sent them packing. I guess you could say I slept alone that morning/afternoon. But it was by choice. Good club at ICON, would recommend.

Firebird
09-06-10, 02:05
Thanks to Wicked Roger's recommendation, staid at the Dusit Thani - absolutely no problem bringing talent. Actually, due to schedule, had to let one go at 3 in the morning - just received a call from security if everything was okay.
As reports state, plenty of working girls in Havana Cafe - usually after 9PM.....unfortunately lot of mileage... Made couple of trips to Holywood club on P Burgos - usual push to buy lady drinks....just have to watch yourself not to go too far.
I had not trouble at the local pharmacy to purchase V vitamin - when asked where is the prescription I just said I did not have one - then the pharmacist asked if I had used it before - I said yes and not a problem - purchase was made. Well off to Prague and Stuttgart end of this week for more "talent" search.

Run Mann
09-12-10, 14:43
About two months ago I met this girl in Makati, lovely girl with a soft quiet voice and a real GFE. Last week I’m back in town and called her up, told me she is in her province visiting her sister but will come to see me tomorrow. Sure enough she arrived the next evening, I invited her up to my room, we talked, had a meal and later that night we're readying to do the deed when she nonchalantly emerges from the shower with a large stomach as if nothing is amiss. Surprised by her new addition, I asked her how many months; six she replied and the baby is for her Canuck BF who has long abandoned them and refuses to respond to her emails. He told her to get an abortion as he cannot and will not care for them. She said she told him she cannot abort her baby as this is killing so she will see it to term.

Just felt so bad for her but she was in better spirits than I was, in fact she cheered me up. She stayed the night and left early the next morning to take the bus back to her province. I just kept wondering about the little one and the uncertainly they both will face in life. Lots of stories on this board about how cunning and deceitful these girls are but some punters are on par with and in some cases way surpass them. Not judging but to know that you have a child out there and you will never make contact with her/him... oh well such is life I suppose. Gave her a generous monetary gift to help with the baby and told her to send me some baby pics in a couple of months. This girl is just another persona trying survive in Philippines' version of the Serengeti, albeit now with an added handicap, the odds are so against her but I hope she succeeds.

Starchild2012
09-12-10, 17:07
About two months ago I met this girl in Makati, lovely girl with a soft quiet voice and a real GFE. Last week I’m back in town and called her up, told me she is in her province visiting her sister but will come to see me tomorrow. Sure enough she arrived the next evening, I invited her up to my room, we talked, had a meal and later that night we're readying to do the deed when she nonchalantly emerges from the shower with a large stomach as if nothing is amiss. Surprised by her new addition, I asked her how many months; six she replied and the baby is for her Canuck BF who has long abandoned them and refuses to respond to her emails. He told her to get an abortion as he cannot and will not care for them. She said she told him she cannot abort her baby as this is killing so she will see it to term.

Just felt so bad for her but she was in better spirits than I was, in fact she cheered me up. She stayed the night and left early the next morning to take the bus back to her province. I just kept wondering about the little one and the uncertainly they both will face in life. Lots of stories on this board about how cunning and deceitful these girls are but some punters are on par with and in some cases way surpass them. Not judging but to know that you have a child out there and you will never make contact with her/him... oh well such is life I suppose. Gave her a generous monetary gift to help with the baby and told her to send me some baby pics in a couple of months. This girl is just another persona trying survive in Philippines' version of the Serengeti, albeit now with an added handicap, the odds are so against her but I hope she succeeds.

Truly heartbreaking...don't have words to express my feelings..its really sad...i hope Abortion is made legal in PH soon....some men from all over the world are pussies....i have seen many Filipinos guys doing the same...as are tourists...these guys who abandon their own blood will have no place in heaven or hell...they are cursed for ever

Red Kilt
09-13-10, 04:08
Truly heartbreaking...don't have words to express my feelings..its really sad...i hope Abortion is made legal in PH soon....some men from all over the world are pussies....i have seen many Filipinos guys doing the same...as are tourists...these guys who abandon their own blood will have no place in heaven or hell...they are cursed for ever

Whether abortion is legal or otherwise would not have changed this story though StarC. The girl did NOT want the abortion, as the OP noted.

I agree that the Canuck bf who wants to disown her is an irresponsible asshole.

The positive side, for her, is that she may get a fair-skinned blue eyed baby who will grow up to be a show business star/basketball star, make lots of money and everybody will live happily ever after. I am sure that in their funny little private minds that she is thinking that very thing and that is why she was happy enough when she met Run Mann.
They just don't think about all the hardships to come in between.

Econo Tech
09-13-10, 04:33
Truly heartbreaking. Don't have words to express my feelings. Its really sad. I hope Abortion is made legal in PH soon. Some men from all over the world are pussies. I have seen many Filipinos guys doing the same. As are tourists. These guys who abandon their own blood will have no place in heaven or hell. They are cursed for evermy 2 cents. I think we had this discussion some time ago. And my own conclusion is. Don't blame the foreigners. As per my estimate, 99% of the single mothers are due to their own kababayans banging the shit out of the girls, and only in less than 1% it is due to foreigners. Or even lesser.

I came to the conclusion after meeting a few hundred filipinas, single mothers. Who end up as tourist workers in Singapore, and Malaysia, and even including those from AC/Manila (some had done stints in LAC), and none of them ever had a foreigner as the father of their kids.

Econo Tech
09-14-10, 03:18
The positive side, for her, is that she may get a fair-skinned blue eyed baby who will grow up to be a show business star/basketball star, make lots of money and everybody will live happily ever after. I am sure that in their funny little private minds that she is thinking that very thing and that is why she was happy enough when she met Run Mann.

They just don't think about all the hardships to come in between.Ha ha. I heard that before. I was with a Lebanese friend of mine, the modern type and lebanese christian, and a girl was staring at his eyes and she said with 100% conviction that she wanted to have a baby with his eyes.

As you say, the child may grow up to be a success, in a country where looks are all that matters.

The current Ms Philippines claims her beauty is because of her mixed blood.

Amavida
09-15-10, 12:57
About two months ago I met this girl in Makati, lovely girl with a soft quiet voice and a real GFE. Last week I’m back in town and called her up, told me she is in her province visiting her sister but will come to see me tomorrow. Sure enough she arrived the next evening, I invited her up to my room, we talked, had a meal and later that night we're readying to do the deed when she nonchalantly emerges from the shower with a large stomach as if nothing is amiss. Surprised by her new addition, I asked her how many months; six she replied and the baby is for her Canuck BF who has long abandoned them and refuses to respond to her emails. He told her to get an abortion as he cannot and will not care for them. She said she told him she cannot abort her baby as this is killing so she will see it to term.

Just felt so bad for her but she was in better spirits than I was, in fact she cheered me up. She stayed the night and left early the next morning to take the bus back to her province. I just kept wondering about the little one and the uncertainly they both will face in life. Lots of stories on this board about how cunning and deceitful these girls are but some punters are on par with and in some cases way surpass them. Not judging but to know that you have a child out there and you will never make contact with her/him... oh well such is life I suppose. Gave her a generous monetary gift to help with the baby and told her to send me some baby pics in a couple of months. This girl is just another persona trying survive in Philippines' version of the Serengeti, albeit now with an added handicap, the odds are so against her but I hope she succeeds.
Don't feel bad, life is very cheap here & girls (as you just found out) are totally irresponsible. It will probably pop out looking like her (brown skin/black hair) & will be dumped on her mother/lola/cousin while she goes on being a 'totally GFE' to many more unsuspecting or uncaring schmucks.
I feel bad for the children but the girls I don't anymore, they don't care. Seen WAY too many do this.

AV

Paul C
09-15-10, 15:22
I feel bad for the children but the girls I don't anymore, they don't care. Seen WAY too many do this.I don't really want to start a huge debate about this but in my opinion it's not really their fault.

If any entity is to blame, it's the Catholic church who has been opposed to sex education and thinks it should be up to the parents to inform their children (the blind leading the blind).

The Philippine government decided only very recently (2010) to introduce sex education programs in schools. The country is decades behind, but I guess better late than never.

Amavida
09-16-10, 02:27
If any entity is to blame, it's the Catholic church who has been opposed to sex education
I used to think this also.
The whole Catholicism thing is just a thin veneer over their culture.
Even when given information/money to protect themselves many/most choose the lazy way.. blind chance.

AV

WestCoast1
09-16-10, 02:35
I used to think this also.

The whole Catholicism thing is just a thin veneer over their culture.

Even when given information/money to protect themselves many/most choose the lazy way.. blind chance.

AVFew hundred years of catolicism. Thousand year's of culture. The religion is a polite way of taking the blame for the innards.

Gangles
09-16-10, 12:51
Gentlemen,

This discussion about irresponsible pinays having children while they are unmarried is just silly.

You are criticising from a cultural perspective of feminism, overlaid on christian puritanical beliefs.

It is natural fro a female, of any species, to want to get pregnant and procreate as soon as she reaches puberty. This is nature.

For almost 50 years, the feminist movement in teh west has encouraged females to put off childbirth in preference to career, fun etc. And I have spoken with more than a few 30 year olds who now regret that they did not settle down with their nice guy and have their children long before. They are now facing a barren future.

The feminist culture was overlaid on the puritanical christian culture of children only in marriage, which derives from the issues of ownership of property.

All of this ignores the primeval drives of nature to procreate and preserve the species.

Now we in the west are feeling the consequences. Birth rates so low that we have to import people to keep our countries going. Aged populations such that the streets and stores are populated with doddering oldies.

So next time you come across a single filipina who is pregnant, rejoice that this is nature in its purest.

Rejoice with her, encourage her, and help out if you can.

G

Anneelke
09-16-10, 13:12
Gentlemen,

This discussion about irresponsible pinays having children while they are unmarried is just silly.

You are criticising from a cultural perspective of feminism, overlaid on christian puritanical beliefs.

It is natural for a female, of any species, to want to get pregnant and procreate as soon as she reaches puberty. This is nature.

For almost 50 years, the feminist movement in the west has encouraged females to put off childbirth in preference to career, fun etc. And I have spoken with more than a few 30 year olds who now regret that they did not settle down with their nice guy and have their children long before. They are now facing a barren future.

The feminist culture was overlaid on the puritanical christian culture of children only in marriage, which derives from the issues of ownership of property.

All of this ignores the primeval drives of nature to procreate and preserve the species.

Now we in the west are feeling the consequences. Birth rates so low that we have to import people to keep our countries going. Aged populations such that the streets and stores are populated with doddering oldies.

So next time you come across a single filipina who is pregnant, rejoice that this is nature in its purest.

Rejoice with her, encourage her, and help out if you can.

GWhilst declining birth rates in first world countries may create temporary skills shortages and a restructuring of the tax systems, the global movement of workers nowadays can accomodate that through planned migration.

But with our world population heading towards 7 billion people,

http://www.google.com/publicdata?ds=wb-wdi&met=sp_pop_totl&tdim=true&dl=en&hl=en&q=world+population

it similarly does not make much sense when The Philippines goes from under 30 million people in 1960 to over 90million nowadays.

Also compare their ranking:-

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/eco_gro_nat_inc_percap-gross-national-income-per-capita

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXp96Um-TAs&feature=related

Sammon
09-16-10, 14:32
Gentlemen,

This discussion about irresponsible pinays having children while they are unmarried is just silly.

You are criticising from a cultural perspective of feminism, overlaid on christian puritanical beliefs.

It is natural fro a female, of any species, to want to get pregnant and procreate as soon as she reaches puberty. This is nature.

For almost 50 years, the feminist movement in teh west has encouraged females to put off childbirth in preference to career, fun etc. And I have spoken with more than a few 30 year olds who now regret that they did not settle down with their nice guy and have their children long before. They are now facing a barren future.

The feminist culture was overlaid on the puritanical christian culture of children only in marriage, which derives from the issues of ownership of property.

All of this ignores the primeval drives of nature to procreate and preserve the species.

Now we in the west are feeling the consequences. Birth rates so low that we have to import people to keep our countries going. Aged populations such that the streets and stores are populated with doddering oldies.

So next time you come across a single filipina who is pregnant, rejoice that this is nature in its purest.

Rejoice with her, encourage her, and help out if you can.

G
Yes, Everybody loves children. But we are talking here about girls who cannot afford to bring up the baby. It is true all girls would love to have a child as few girls in Phi told me it completes their life irrespective of if the guy helps her or not.
Nowadays lots of girls get depo shots so they do not get pregnant. Many girls want to wait till they are 25. Once they reach that age they want a child badly. In Phi society over 25 and no child is considered inferior. Many a time even these poor families will take care of the child without reservations.
I dated a young normal girl who had a child. She is a chef. She told me her child was forcibly taken away from her by her previous BF family to be raised when her and her BF broke up. Her family is not poor and neither was she. After some fighting now she has visitation rights. Meanwhile Her previous BF married another girl and has a kid.
This is an unusual story but as mongers most of the girls we meet are dirt poor.
I would prefer they wait till they have some money before they have the child. Even if their family will take care of the child still she needs to earn and send home the money. Glad to say the children I saw everywhere in Phi do not look malnourished.

Althemaf
09-20-10, 04:31
Yes, Everybody loves children. But we are talking here about girls who cannot afford to bring up the baby. It is true all girls would love to have a child as few girls in Phi told me it completes their life irrespective of if the guy helps her or not.

Nowadays lots of girls get depo shots so they do not get pregnant. Many girls want to wait till they are 25. Once they reach that age they want a child badly. In Phi society over 25 and no child is considered inferior. Many a time even these poor families will take care of the child without reservations.

I dated a young normal girl who had a child. She is a chef. She told me her child was forcibly taken away from her by her previous BF family to be raised when her and her BF broke up. Her family is not poor and neither was she. After some fighting now she has visitation rights. Meanwhile Her previous BF married another girl and has a kid.

This is an unusual story but as mongers most of the girls we meet are dirt poor.

I would prefer they wait till they have some money before they have the child. Even if their family will take care of the child still she needs to earn and send home the money. Glad to say the children I saw everywhere in Phi do not look malnourished.some accidentally got pregnant that they still want to keep the baby even though they already know the consequence of blur future, no money and other family to support them. Some got lucky to still have their parents or get a partner to support them however this is different issue. The point is there's a small percent of women dreamed of settling down that comes into life rather than the reality of having unplanned pregnancy.

Robbaf
09-21-10, 22:52
I spent last weekend in Makati and Saturday night I went out on Burgos. I don't have time for a full report, but I want to report on one bar called Tickles. It is located across from Shampoo bar on the side street. I went in around 9 pm and I counted 60 girls :eek: and I was one of four customers. By far it was the best bar on Burgos.

I was waiting for a friend to show up and he arrived at 11 pm and we hit a few bars and ended back in Tickles around 2 am and I found this spinner. Momma wanted 3500P for bf and I told her that I had already brought six lady drinks and we talked until I got her down to 2500P and I tipped the girl 2000P for 12 hours.

Robb

FreebieFan
09-22-10, 04:58
I spent last weekend in Makati and Saturday night I went out on Burgos. I don't have time for a full report, but I want to report on one bar called Tickles. It is located across from Shampoo bar on the side street. I went in around 9 pm and I counted 60 girls :eek: and I was one of four customers. By far it was the best bar on Burgos.

I was waiting for a friend to show up and he arrived at 11 pm and we hit a few bars and ended back in Tickles around 2 am and I found this spinner. Momma wanted 3500P for bf and I told her that I had already brought six lady drinks and we talked until I got her down to 2500P and I tipped the girl 2000P for 12 hours.

RobbHi, yes Tickles can be fun.

Was amused at the photo. From the angle used the bra looks very big for its contents. As we often find.

Jambo
09-22-10, 14:10
the bra looks very big for its contents. As we often find.Oh God I asked a flat-as-a-board pinay once why she even bothered wearing a bra. She did not appreciate that at all haha.

Culturally insensitive I am

Sammon
09-22-10, 14:51
Oh God I asked a flat-as-a-board pinay once why she even bothered wearing a bra. She did not appreciate that at all haha.

Culturally insensitive I am
OMG. You cannot tell her this. I am sure she is hurt. It is like someone telling you you have a ugly face or worse 2 inch pecker which will not satisfy any girl.
Many wear padded bras and even after a shower wear the bra in bed. Yes, some of them are as flat as a tennis court. unfortunately you find out this in bed only unless the girl is dancing in see through top. Once I had a Cambo girl with very big boobs. She refused to take off her bra. I coaxed her only to find everything fell down like a brick. She was so ashamed but I assure her it is ok because gravity takes hold of everything. It is unfortunate ecause she was only 20 years old.

FreebieFan
09-27-10, 01:57
Hi Sammon, did you do this Cambo girl in PP? Or Manila? Just curious. You know, guys, I love big tits. I don't care if they're bolted or saggy. Gotta have 'em. I'm on a mission to bang the biggest boobs in the world. Asian girls are not known for this which makes finding them even better! :) (.) (.)because Im a nice guy, try and "jenperez"... shes 29. Very large susu that should meet your tastes. Met her briefly two trips ago but had no time to follow through.

Genghois
09-30-10, 01:44
Great info, my friend (as opposed to the general discussion going on here, that give us no information on Makati)

I'll be staying at the Intercontinental next weekend (October 8/9), and I'll definitely check it out!


Hey Man, I stayed at the intercon during my recent visits to Makati. There is a night club downstairs, you enter via the pool area, called Icon. I ended up here every night of both trips with whatever I had picked up at Havana Cafe. On weekends its packed, even on Tuesday night it was quite busy.

There were always FL present and some absolute stunners. There are also a couple of ladyboys normally too.

Its very much up to date nightclub, drinks are surprisingly cheap, music is quite good unless you are there on R&B nite and like r&b.

I always got in for free as I was with someone they seemed to know.....not sure it there is a cover charge, enjoy!

Goferring
10-03-10, 00:58
The night started off with a walk around the Dusit to see what was on offer.

Earlier I had a legitimate massage (500 Peso for 2 hrs) and noticed that there was a bar below and wanted to return. The bar turned out to be a Karaoke bar so being a Karaoke virgin I thought I would go in and see what was on offer. A small ante room held about 25 girls sitting on oversized lounges. All young, all tall and all very pretty. Walking past them into the bar proper I sat down and ordered a drink. The reply was "We have a System here". This was starting to sound like my system for beating Vegas. Potentially foolhardy and very expensive. Never the less, "Oh yes what's that? " 600 Peso covers 5 hours sitting with a girl.

"Including any drinks". "no".

"I can organise to take the girl home". "no".

"So you have rooms out the back then". "no"

WTF – why would I spend 5 hours listening to "What's your name/Where you from/Where you stay?

Feel free to reply if I had missed something here as I would be keen to go back if more was truly on offer.

50 Peso covered a taxi into P Burgos. It had been years since I had been for a look so decided to do a bar hop and see what was on offer. I covered pretty much all of the bars along the strip, one drink at each. I won't go though every bar as they merged into a few common themes:

The larger bars down the Flamingo end were by far the busier (but still very quiet) and offered the best selection and number of girls.

The smaller bars further down were very, very quiet, often with only one or two customers. The selection was not as great nor of good quality and the girls were a little more aggressive but nothing too over the top.

The Suspender show at Bottoms was good to watch (see Terwagne's Post) with tits flying everywhere and plenty of 8s and 9s. Most of the girls were very accommodating in the bar. However quoted prices were over the top. I was quoted 3900 barfine plus the girl wanted USD 100 tip – about 8000 in total! The price did come down with negotiation but not to any thing I considered reasonable. I left after receiving the lap dance and general groping that was taking place during the negotiations

Quality at the Flamingo was quite good and the all tastes were catered for. I ended up taking a spinner with a nice rack home. Her performance was good without being stunning. A 3some bi-show was offered but the friend pulled out at the last minute. Total damage was 2200/3000 including the newbie tax.

Did I over pay? Definitely. A stiff dick has no conscience.

Will I Return? Definitely.

Enjoy

Escort Fan
10-10-10, 07:49
Quality at the Flamingo was quite good and the all tastes were catered for. I ended up taking a spinner with a nice rack home. Her performance was good without being stunning. A 3some bi-show was offered but the friend pulled out at the last minute. Total damage was 2200/3000 including the newbie tax.

Did I over pay? Definitely. A stiff dick has no conscience.

Will I Return? Definitely.

EnjoyI agree I found Flamingo to be a nice place, picked up a girl from there.

I tried a couple of bars that were all almost empty while Flamingo was rather packed.

I got quoted the same prices, 2200 BF and the girl said her price would be 3K minimum.

There were lots of pretty girls there in my book and I consider myself a demanding punter.

Frankly to those who consider Burgos to be a rip, LA Café girls are light years beyond Flamingo girls in terms of quality. Of course some might enjoy finding the gem at LA that works there for 2K per night but overall Burgos is not only above LA Café but also far ahead of Angeles when it comes to beauty, english skills, maintenance, education etc.

Burgos girls are just more fun. They are also good pros and that's annoying!

I picked up a girl from Bourbon last night.

Both girls had the same modus operandi. Drink one LD, BF, go back to Hotel (St Giles). Shower, fuck once without rush, shower, chat a bit, then "honey I got to go back to work".

I could have thought that both girls disliked my company, but both insisted on getting my smart buddy number, and both txt'ed me quite a few times in order to see me again.

Guess they just prefer to find two suckers that pay ST at 3K + BF than a guy who takes LT and give maybe only 1K extra.

Or they have a reason to prefer sleeping at home (BF, kid) than sleeping with a punter.

I guess the next time I'll just negociate LT before leaving the bar.

Makati scene pros

Good girls in term of looks

Excellent level of english

Good service (CIM+FK were available)

Makati scene cons

Prices!

Girls tend to run away once the deed is done.

MauiDude
10-17-10, 16:37
Yes, Everybody loves children. But we are talking here about girls who cannot afford to bring up the baby. It is true all girls would love to have a child as few girls in Phi told me it completes their life irrespective of if the guy helps her or not.
Nowadays lots of girls get depo shots so they do not get pregnant. Many girls want to wait till they are 25. Once they reach that age they want a child badly. In Phi society over 25 and no child is considered inferior. Many a time even these poor families will take care of the child without reservations.
,,,
This is an unusual story but as mongers most of the girls we meet are dirt poor.
I would prefer they wait till they have some money before they have the child. Even if their family will take care of the child still she needs to earn and send home the money. Glad to say the children I saw everywhere in Phi do not look malnourished.They also want babies to grow up and take care of them when they get older.

They are dependent on their children as they age and hope and are taught that this is their retirement plan.

As many boyfriends and husbands both foreign and domestic will leave them or die off.

Escort Fan
10-18-10, 04:20
One annoying thing is that most burgos girls I booked, and I booked 5 or 6 in the last week, all try to leave after the deed is done.

So you spend 30' in the bar with her, BF her.

Go to your room, shower, fuck, chat for 5' then she says she needs to go to attend her children, take the 2 hour ride in jeepney back to cavite etc.

So that's a 2-3K pesos BF, plus 3K for the girl, that's roughly 100 EUROS for a quickie which is quite expensive.

While in angeles most girls live away from their families. So they are more than happy to stay for the night at your nice 4 stars hotel room, rather than going back to their crappy couch above the bar.

FreebieFan
10-18-10, 05:06
They are dependent on their children as they age and hope and are taught that this is their retirement plan.

As many boyfriends and husbands both foreign and domestic will leave them or die off.Or they just stop paying the child support as in one case that I know. The girl was the hottest I ever knew and I have loads of vids of her being a real porn star. She had a kid by a California guy, her two sisters had kids by Filipino guys.

Cali guy would send money every month, till he got a new wife and she insisted her spend the money on her, not some Filipina he banged and left with a kid.

The girl went from being lively really happy funny super sexy gal into an unhappy very thin girl who sees no hope in having a happy life anymore.

She has a job that pays almost nothing, and literaly misses meals so her child can eat.

So yeah, the guys aways leave, and always leave a mess!

Raptors
10-19-10, 04:37
Or they just stop paying the child support as in one case that I know. The girl was the hottest I ever knew and I have loads of vids of her being a real porn star. She had a kid by a California guy, her two sisters had kids by Filipino guys.

Cali guy would send money every month, till he got a new wife and she insisted her spend the money on her, not some Filipina he banged and left with a kid.

The girl went from being lively really happy funny super sexy gal into an unhappy very thin girl who sees no hope in having a happy life anymore.

She has a job that pays almost nothing, and literaly misses meals so her child can eat.

So yeah, the guys aways leave, and always leave a mess!Yeah absolutely agree, too many cases of what you described. Girls get screwed by foreigners and then get pregnant. And guys leave and support for a bit until they find new honey. No responsibility what so ever. But the biggest problem for the girls is that even with a normal office job/sales job which lets say pay 6000. 8000 pesos it is very difficult to have a place to stay, enough food and care for your child's education needs. Quasi impossible. That is also why you see soo many girls with children end up in bargirl jobs etc.

Yuri
11-03-10, 04:53
I went to Bandito, Ask for Mama Angie who will help you select they type of girl that you want based on your needs [price, type of girl, etc]. It is a good place and reasonably priced compared to the rest of Burgos. Flamingo is ok as well, but I give the edge to Bandito because of the excellent service that Mama Angie offers to her customers. A good Mamasan is the key to a good experience [GF] at these bars who can refer to you the right type of girl for you.

FreebieFan
11-04-10, 06:31
I went to Bandito, Ask for Mama Angie who will help you select they type of girl that you want based on your needs [price, type of girl, etc]. It is a good place and reasonably priced compared to the rest of Burgos. Flamingo is ok as well, but I give the edge to Bandito because of the excellent service that Mama Angie offers to her customers. A good Mamasan is the key to a good experience [GF] at these bars who can refer to you the right type of girl for you.Bandidos has a real cute gitl whos real name is MaryAnn Lapitan works in Bandidos. 25 with two kids but looks 18. Can't remember her bar name. Its some cute memorable name, that I forget LOL.

Red Kilt
11-04-10, 10:18
Bandidos has a real cute gitl whos real name is MaryAnn Lapitan works in Bandidos. 25 with two kids but looks 18. Can't remember her bar name. Its some cute memorable name, that I forget LOL.

That's what 2 days of non-stop shagging driven by Red Bull fuel does for your brain cells FF.
I enjoyed your blow-by-blow, (and suck-by-suck, thrust-by-thrust) descriptions of the conquests mate.

Now try to get your memory loss recovery underway for the next visit.

FreebieFan
11-04-10, 10:52
That's what 2 days of non-stop shagging driven by Red Bull fuel does for your brain cells FF.

I enjoyed your blow-by-blow, (and suck-by-suck, thrust-by-thrust) descriptions of the conquests mate.

Now try to get your memory loss recovery underway for the next visit.If only they made humans with recovery disks.

Amavida
11-04-10, 12:14
Bandidos has a real cute gitl whos real name is MaryAnn Lapitan works in Bandidos. 25 with two kids but looks 18. Can't remember her bar name. Its some cute memorable name, that I forget LOL.
Its not cool to post a persons full name.

Jerkoff
11-04-10, 22:57
Its not cool to post a persons full name.Definitely not cool.

Key Master
11-13-10, 06:59
I finally went to Icon at Intercontinental Hotel last night. I got there around 230 am. There was a cover charge of 500 pesos, which includes a drink an inexpensive one at that, ala San Miguel Light. It was going pretty good, and was told it gets more crowded later after 3 and they close at 6 am on Friday night. The ratio of men to women was not good this evening. I think there were more men than women with about 50% foreigner men and 50% Filipino men. There were some women obviously looking to hook up for money. There were some baklas in the club also. The bar kind of goes around in a circle with tables all around and then a lowered area with tables and maybe a dance floor. I didn't bother going into the middle, it was kind of crowded.

There were some good looking women in there mostly not available but with boyfriends. Some of the working girls were not bad and then some in there I'm not sure why they pay the 500 pesos to get in and try to hook up but I guess alcohol is on their side also. Personally for me, I don't think I'd really be looking to monger there on a weekend. Maybe to meet regular girls there, but may be kind of hard to approach. It's a different crowd, maybe a little stuck up.

One warning at Havana, my last two visits included girls who were very drunk and asking to be taken to Icon. I didn't think nothing of it, but realize most just wanted to get free cover charge entry they would be expecting of course. I arrived yesterday at Havana maybe around 1:30 am, not much talent in my view at the time. Saturday was better last week. But not seeing many regular working girls coming as before.

Mc Don
11-15-10, 01:40
I finally went to Icon at Intercontinental Hotel last night. I got there around 230 am. There was a cover charge of 500 pesos, which includes a drink an inexpensive one at that, ala San Miguel Light. It was going pretty good, and was told it gets more crowded later after 3 and they close at 6 am on Friday night. The ratio of men to women was not good this evening. I think there were more men than women with about 50% foreigner men and 50% Filipino men. There were some women obviously looking to hook up for money. There were some baklas in the club also. The bar kind of goes around in a circle with tables all around and then a lowered area with tables and maybe a dance floor. I didn't bother going into the middle, it was kind of crowded.

There were some good looking women in there mostly not available but with boyfriends. Some of the working girls were not bad and then some in there I'm not sure why they pay the 500 pesos to get in and try to hook up but I guess alcohol is on their side also. Personally for me, I don't think I'd really be looking to monger there on a weekend. Maybe to meet regular girls there, but may be kind of hard to approach. It's a different crowd, maybe a little stuck up.

One warning at Havana, my last two visits included girls who were very drunk and asking to be taken to Icon. I didn't think nothing of it, but realize most just wanted to get free cover charge entry they would be expecting of course. I arrived yesterday at Havana maybe around 1:30 am, not much talent in my view at the time. Saturday was better last week. But not seeing many regular working girls coming as before.


I think you only pay entrance fees on Friday and Saturday. I have been few times during the week where no entrance fees was asked. The whole place becomes life after 1am. Before that there is hardly anyone. Few P4P stunners but also a lot of normal girls so be careful. I picked up a freebie two weeks ago up in the VIP area. Make sure at the door you ask for the VIP stamp, no additional charge...

Key Master
11-15-10, 03:47
I think you only pay entrance fees on Friday and Saturday. I have been few times during the week where no entrance fees was asked. The whole place becomes life after 1am. Before that there is hardly anyone. Few P4P stunners but also a lot of normal girls so be careful. I picked up a freebie two weeks ago up in the VIP area. Make sure at the door you ask for the VIP stamp, no additional charge...

Yes you are right, it's Friday and Saturday cover charge of 500 pesos. It is free on Wednesday and Thursday I was told for the other two days they're open. What is up with the VIP? If I am correct, it appeared that the freelancers were hanging out in the outer circle and not in the middle area. I think it's somewhat easy to see who's working and who's not there. But maybe alcohol could change that.

Mc Don
11-15-10, 05:18
Yes you are right, it's Friday and Saturday cover charge of 500 pesos. It is free on Wednesday and Thursday I was told for the other two days they're open. What is up with the VIP? If I am correct, it appeared that the freelancers were hanging out in the outer circle and not in the middle area. I think it's somewhat easy to see who's working and who's not there. But maybe alcohol could change that.

Spot on... Outer area near the bar. You will find a couple upstairs in the VIP area but latter in the night. The whole VIP thing is funny considering you don't pay extra but from what I understand they do it on purpose as sometimes when they have good DJ's the place gets packed and they want to control the amount of ppl the let upstairs. Usually its for hotel guests, regulars and mainly tourists... I guess the good thing is it gives you opportunity to scan the area quicker and if you pick up and want to spend cash on a bottle then you can use one of the studios upstairs. Just make sure you don't get into one where the speakers are at the doors as latter depending how naughty you and your girl is you can close the doors... Happy times :)

Emale
11-24-10, 04:09
I was in Makati for a couple of days last month and stopped by the Palicio Don Pedro and it was closed. Does anyone know what happened ? Is it permanent? It was one of my favorite afternoon places to go. Thanks in advance for any information.

Night DJ
11-24-10, 06:51
I dropped by PDP the last week of October during the afternoon and it was open again. I got the feeling it had only reopened a few days before. However, the girls hang out in the bar area now, not upstairs in the aquarium.

There were only about five girls there at the time, and since I didn't see anyone I liked I don't know if the rates are the same as before. I meant to go back later in the week to see if more of the girls had come back, but didn't make it before I left.

Shark San
11-24-10, 10:30
Its not cool to post a persons full name.Shouldn't the moderator have deleted that? I know the rules specifically state: "Please do not post any real names or personal identification numbers of any Forum Member in the Forum at any time" but shouldn't the same courtesy be extended to WGs? Perhaps under the principles noted in "General Politeness"?

FreebieFan
11-24-10, 16:10
Shouldn't the moderator have deleted that? I know the rules specifically state: "Please do not post any real names or personal identification numbers of any Forum Member in the Forum at any time" but shouldn't the same courtesy be extended to WGs? Perhaps under the principles noted in "General Politeness"?Then again you dont realy know i posted her real name.. the surname Lapitan is as common as rice in Manila. if I had said her name was Josie Reyes that applies to maybe 50,00 girls in Phils.

The girl I was talking about is actually a member of ISG who has been playing some guys.

Shark San
11-25-10, 04:45
Then again you dont realy know i posted her real name.. the surname Lapitan is as common as rice in Manila. if I had said her name was Josie Reyes that applies to maybe 50,00 girls in Phils.

The girl I was talking about is actually a member of ISG who has been playing some guys.Ok, fair enough. Maybe it's not her real name. My post is directed toward the policy on ISG, not towards any one member. However, if Ms. L. Is "actually a member of ISG" then that totally violates the policy and. The original post doesn't mention anything about "look out for this girl, she's a player. " Actually, the original post sounds like a recommendation, sir.

Shark San
11-25-10, 14:57
Then again you dont realy know i posted her real name.. the surname Lapitan is as common as rice in Manila. if I had said her name was Josie Reyes that applies to maybe 50,00 girls in Phils.

The girl I was talking about is actually a member of ISG who has been playing some guys.Ok boss, fair enough. Maybe you didn't use her real name. Thanks for the lesson in RP demographics. So now it's completely obvious that we can't trust a word you say, since you've confirmed your own unreliability. I was questioning the policy, as in, the Admin's duty to police this shit.

However.

(1) You said (and I quote) "Her real name is. "

(2) There was no mention in the original post about this person being a player, which would have been undoubtedly good for all mongers to know

(3) If in fact this person is a MEMBER ("The girl I was talking about is actually a member"), then your mention of her "real" name, regardless of whether it's true or not, is a CLEAR violation of the ISG policy.

(4) Defend your position, in French, in Latin, in whatever. Either way, it's not cool. But you knew that already.

WestCoast1
11-25-10, 22:48
The girl I was talking about is actually a member of ISG who has been playing some guys.
WTF?


So now it's completely obvious that we can't trust a word you say, since you've confirmed your own unreliability. I was questioning the policy, as in, the Admin's duty to police this shit.

(2) There was no mention in the original post about this person being a player, which would have been undoubtedly good for all mongers to know

Yes, FF, if you think a WG is a board member who has not identified herself as such, you need to post that here. We need to know who that is. You knew she was playing gents on the board and didn't tell us? Its one thing if a girl makes an account and announces herself as such. Its quite another for her to misrepresent herself as one of us (we'd like to avoid her lying *ss like the plague). If this is the case, Jackson may have a responsibility to ban her. Is there something else going on here that I missed?

Amavida
11-26-10, 01:05
(2) There was no mention in the original post about this person being a player, which would have been undoubtedly good for all mongers to knowIn the Philippines assume they are all players until proven otherwise. It's the way to keep your sanity..
FF should have just edited his original post to avoid all this acrimony.

Peskadot
11-26-10, 01:14
Someone on the board not being entirely truthful, perish the thought.

Peskadot



Yes, FF, if you think a WG is a board member who has not identified herself as such, you need to post that here. We need to know who that is. You knew she was playing gents on the board and didn't tell us? Its one thing if a girl makes an account and announces herself as such. Its quite another for her to misrepresent herself as one of us (we'd like to avoid her lying *ss like the plague). If this is the case, Jackson may have a responsibility to ban her. Is there something else going on here that I missed?[/QUOTE]

Screaming Beaver
11-26-10, 02:05
Someone on the board not being entirely truthful, perish the thought.

PeskadotYes, indeed. It seems the first liar does not have a chance on this board. He always gets trumped by another guy willing to lay on the chili even more than the next guy. My personal favorite is a certain poster who brags on a regular basis about banging many different girls per day here in Manila. Turns out he later admits to being 55 plus and without a prostrate gland. Yeah, sure. We believe you ;)

Screaming Beaver
11-26-10, 12:32
For those of you wanting a nice legitimate massage in your hotel room without paying too much, I'd suggest you give these guys a try:

http://www.asianmassageph.com/

It's only 300 pesos per hour, professional massage with no extras. They can usually be to your room in less than an hour. Much better price than the hotels offer.

Mr Giggity Goo
11-27-10, 07:53
Hey guys,

I just want to share I found a US exchange rate of $44.30 across from Pussycats bar next to a pharmacy. Wondering if anyone found anything better than that? Seems pretty good from everywhere else I've been asking.

Charlie Horse
11-27-10, 18:53
For those of you wanting a nice legitimate massage in your hotel room without paying too much, I'd suggest you give these guys a try:

http://www.asianmassageph.com/

It's only 300 pesos per hour, professional massage with no extras. They can usually be to your room in less than an hour. Much better price than the hotels offer.
Why would I want guys giving me a message?

Tally Wacker
11-27-10, 19:18
I'm guessing he is using the word "guys" as a general term ya think?

Can anyone recomend a sensual massage place in Makati that would offer more services? I noticed a few website where the girls photos are posted but I would be concerned the girl who shows up at the hotel would be old and ugly.

I would also be interested in a sensual massage business with extras that I would walk in to.

Thanks.


Why would I want guys giving me a message?

Screaming Beaver
11-28-10, 03:46
Why would I want guys giving me a message?Ah, very funny. let me clarify. Give these girls a try.

Devils 1
11-28-10, 17:13
Can anyone recomend a sensual massage place in Makati that would offer more services? I noticed a few website where the girls photos are posted but I would be concerned the girl who shows up at the hotel would be old and ugly.

I would also be interested in a sensual massage business with extras that I would walk in to.

Thanks.Many people have tried the places that advertise on the internet to come to your hotel. All of them have reported an array of ripoffs and scams. So i would give them a pass.

As far as walkins there are a couple of choices in Makati. The best and most well known is Roman Suites. Just do a search of this forum and you will find how to locate it.

There is also a place very near to Burgos called Don Pedro, but by last account it was closed. So please try it and let us know if it is still closed.

Finally, i have had great success with some of the girls that hangout on Burgos Street offering massage.

Good luck.

Cali Flip
11-29-10, 18:33
Hi Guys,

Thanks to all who TOFTT for this place. Knowledge is power! Anyway wanted to give my report on Air Force One.

So, I was at the Heritage Hotel in my room, and wanted to splurge. It was about 9:45. I went down to the lobby and asked the security guard for a taxi. After about 15 minutes in the humid evening, he finally got one. Ronald was the driver. I told him, Air Force One. In a flash, he started bolting into the heavy traffic. I almost jokingly closed my eyes at his amazing driving. Of course, he offered other places that were far cheaper. But, I stuck to my guns and we eventually got there.

Fare was 100p. He asked if he could accompany me just to check out the place. I thought, no harm, plus he didn't stiff me like other taxi's so I said ok. We walked in, went up the stairs, and I was impressed (probably because this is my first mp in the Philippines, and compared to the US, this is luxury). Anyway, I was interested in the massage, so I spoke to the receptionist, and went down an escalator where there was another receptionist, and what looks like a break area. My driver said he'd wait for me, probably because I'm a real customer for his cab! Well, based on what I read in the past, I went straight to the one way mirror wall. I saw about 2 dozen or so women just staring, some smiling, others looking bored (I would be too if I stayed there all day). Anyway, gentlmen, attitude always counts. I spotted this beautiful young thing who had a cute smile and I said, ok, let's see if anyone can top her. Nope. Ok, she's mine. So I went back to the reception, told her the number, paid the room and the girl's "services", and off I went.

Went into the room. I first thought, "Damn, this is better than my hotel room, cleaner too! " (LOL). Single room with a king size bed, closet for my stuff, open bathroom with a shower (with hot water not spurting randomly like my hotel room). Only thing I don't like is the open toilet. So, I used it quickly before the young lady came in (wanted to show a bit of decency). Anyway, being the idiot that I am, I said this was my first time. She told me that it's first shower, then either massage next or extra's next. I told her massage first. She helped me into the shower, even gave me a toothbrush and toothpaste with it. I showered, brushed, hopped into bed. She cleaned herself up, walked to the bed, told me to lie on my stomach, and then started to give a pretty dam good massage (something I don't expect in these places).

She started on the back, and then worked her way down. Played with my boys down there, and then flipped me over.completed the massage, and then asked me to flip again. She started rubbing herself all over me at this point, giving sensual kisses throughout. Flipped me over, and started French Kissing. Worked her way down, BBBJ, the type where she takes her sweet time, dam that tongue is one in a million. I asked for 69, no problem. She started cussing like crazy as I'm digging my tongue into that love canal.

Then, got up, slapped a condom, and started riding like there's no tomorrow. We switched, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, and finally mish. The nice part was she kept on massaging the admiral after I was done (that's service). I was spent! Anyway, took a shower, got dressed, and she escorted me out the room (deep french kissing me outside, probably to attract other customers!).

My driver was outside waiting for me as promised (surprisingly) and he took me to my hotel room. Funny, across the street from Air Force One is the police station (LOL). Anyway, got there, gave him an extra 50p tip (hard to know who to trust especially when you only know english), and went straight to bed.

All I can say is it's an experience of a lifetime. Expensive, yes, but life's too short to be cheap on everything!

Tally Wacker
11-29-10, 19:18
Thanks for the report! Thats the kind of place im interested in.

How much did you pay?

Also, do you know if you can choose two girls together?

TW


Hi Guys,

my report on Air Force One.

All I can say is it's an experience of a lifetime. Expensive, yes, but life's too short to be cheap on everything!

Cali Flip
11-30-10, 06:54
Hi TW,

Room is 2500p and one girl was 2000p for her massage services. This is for about 2 hours time. Nothing is explicitly written beyond that. I'm sure if I was thinking with my brain, I could have gotten cheaper, but this was posted upfront and being that this was my first time, I got too excited and just went for it.

Can you get two girls? If you got the pesos, you can get whatever you want!

Cali

Vitrea
11-30-10, 09:20
Hi Guys,

Thanks to all who TOFTT for this place. Knowledge is power! Anyway wanted to give my report on Air Force One.

So, I was at the Heritage Hotel in my room, and wanted to splurge. It was about 9:45. I went down to the lobby and asked the security guard for a taxi. After about 15 minutes in the humid evening, he finally got one. Ronald was the driver. I told him, Air Force One. In a flash, he started bolting into the heavy traffic. I almost jokingly closed my eyes at his amazing driving. Of course, he offered other places that were far cheaper. But, I stuck to my guns and we eventually got there.

Fare was 100p. He asked if he could accompany me just to check out the place. I thought, no harm, plus he didn't stiff me like other taxi's so I said ok. We walked in, went up the stairs, and I was impressed (probably because this is my first mp in the Philippines, and compared to the US, this is luxury). Anyway, I was interested in the massage, so I spoke to the receptionist, and went down an escalator where there was another receptionist, and what looks like a break area. My driver said he'd wait for me, probably because I'm a real customer for his cab! Well, based on what I read in the past, I went straight to the one way mirror wall. I saw about 2 dozen or so women just staring, some smiling, others looking bored (I would be too if I stayed there all day). Anyway, gentlmen, attitude always counts. I spotted this beautiful young thing who had a cute smile and I said, ok, let's see if anyone can top her. Nope. Ok, she's mine. So I went back to the reception, told her the number, paid the room and the girl's "services", and off I went.

Went into the room. I first thought, "Damn, this is better than my hotel room, cleaner too! " (LOL). Single room with a king size bed, closet for my stuff, open bathroom with a shower (with hot water not spurting randomly like my hotel room). Only thing I don't like is the open toilet. So, I used it quickly before the young lady came in (wanted to show a bit of decency). Anyway, being the idiot that I am, I said this was my first time. She told me that it's first shower, then either massage next or extra's next. I told her massage first. She helped me into the shower, even gave me a toothbrush and toothpaste with it. I showered, brushed, hopped into bed. She cleaned herself up, walked to the bed, told me to lie on my stomach, and then started to give a pretty dam good massage (something I don't expect in these places).

She started on the back, and then worked her way down. Played with my boys down there, and then flipped me over.completed the massage, and then asked me to flip again. She started rubbing herself all over me at this point, giving sensual kisses throughout. Flipped me over, and started French Kissing. Worked her way down, BBBJ, the type where she takes her sweet time, dam that tongue is one in a million. I asked for 69, no problem. She started cussing like crazy as I'm digging my tongue into that love canal.

Then, got up, slapped a condom, and started riding like there's no tomorrow. We switched, cowgirl, reverse cowgirl, and finally mish. The nice part was she kept on massaging the admiral after I was done (that's service). I was spent! Anyway, took a shower, got dressed, and she escorted me out the room (deep french kissing me outside, probably to attract other customers!).

My driver was outside waiting for me as promised (surprisingly) and he took me to my hotel room. Funny, across the street from Air Force One is the police station (LOL). Anyway, got there, gave him an extra 50p tip (hard to know who to trust especially when you only know english), and went straight to bed.

All I can say is it's an experience of a lifetime. Expensive, yes, but life's too short to be cheap on everything!

Cali Flip: Good first report. Happy for you. Two questions: Any chance you remember her number? second, how much is the charge?

Cali Flip
11-30-10, 10:16
Cali Flip: Good first report. Happy for you. Two questions: Any chance you remember her number? second, how much is the charge?I don't quite remember but she does work from 6 pm to 3 am daily. (b-4 I think? Don't quote me on that.) but one man's beauty is another man's gargoyle. My opinion only of course, but based on my experience with other mp's and girls, she's a keeper to me.

Mackin
11-30-10, 20:36
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a monday morning about 3 to 3;30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.
Also how are things on burgos on a sunday afternoon?? Will need some female companionship before leaving.
Anything else you can think of that might be helpful.. Can PM me or answer here.
thanks

Escort Fan
12-01-10, 00:07
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a Monday morning about 3 to 3; 30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.

Also how are things on burgos on a Sunday afternoon? Will need some female companionship before leaving.

Anything else you can think of that might be helpful. Can PM me or answer here.

Thanksat 3AM count 20' to go to NAIA.

Sunday afternoon should be quiet things start in the evening on burgos.

Slippery
12-01-10, 02:48
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a Monday morning about 3 to 3; 30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.

Also how are things on burgos on a Sunday afternoon? Will need some female companionship before leaving.

Anything else you can think of that might be helpful. Can PM me or answer here.

ThanksI do it alot from Malate and its about 20-25 minutes at that hour to get there at 4:00 am for a 6:00 am flight. You will probably get to the airport a bit earlier from Makati. Depending on what airline you are flying, time in line can be 10 minutes to nearly an hour. I'm almost always on a 6:00 am out of Manila. If flying Delta, lines tend to be longer and slower. I just maintain the 2 hour rule for check in, get on the plane and sleep on the 4 plus hour MNL to Narita leg.

Key Master
12-01-10, 02:54
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a monday morning about 3 to 3;30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.
Also how are things on burgos on a sunday afternoon?? Will need some female companionship before leaving.
Anything else you can think of that might be helpful.. Can PM me or answer here.
thanks

I don't really know what time it will take but I'm guessing no more than 20-25 minutes. No traffic should be really experienced at that time. I doubt you'll find real talent on a Sunday afternoon in Burgos. I'd prefer to have some numbers available from earlier recon missions or experiences so you can call on them.

Lil Buckaroo
12-01-10, 14:20
Also how are things on burgos on a sunday afternoon?? Will need some female companionship before leaving.

Anything else you can think of that might be helpful.. Can PM me or answer here.
thanksAs other posters have mentioned, Burgos is a bit quiet on a Sunday afternoon; but there are a few places open then, where you might find a little bit of sleepy talent. I think Bourbon Street bar opens by 3pm. That's the only one that comes readily to mind, but there could be others. Depending on how fussy you are, you shouldn't be forced to go it alone even at that time of day.

Mackin
12-01-10, 20:25
Hey, thanks guys for the answers. I am on the delta 6:00 am flight and do plan on getting some sleep on the way to Norita. I have only been in Manila to stay for the night one time and it was very limited. . So I may need to look and keep an open mind about places to go and things to do.
Thanks again to all

Paul C
12-02-10, 16:56
Does anyone know where to buy Cytotec in the Metro Manila area?

Escort Fan
12-02-10, 17:52
Hi TW,

Room is 2500p and one girl was 2000p for her massage services.Can you give us adress and phone # of AF1 please.

Also when you say 2K for massage, it's all included or you need to add again to get FS?

Also were you able to some point to negociate services either with the girl or mamasan, like I don't know BBJJ, BB FS (if you are into that), CIM, body body or body slide service (which is always nice in this kind of places).

Do you feel like the girls are on a routine like in macao places or did you feel there was place for improvisation?

Mc Don
12-02-10, 17:54
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a monday morning about 3 to 3;30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.
Also how are things on burgos on a sunday afternoon?? Will need some female companionship before leaving.
Anything else you can think of that might be helpful.. Can PM me or answer here.
thanks


Look at Rogues. It should be open and it does have some good talent during the day as well...

Cali Flip
12-03-10, 00:12
Can you give us adress and phone # of AF1 please.

Also when you say 2K for massage, it's all included or you need to add again to get FS?

Also were you able to some point to negociate services either with the girl or mamasan, like I don't know BBJJ, BB FS (if you are into that), CIM, body body or body slide service (which is always nice in this kind of places).

Do you feel like the girls are on a routine like in macao places or did you feel there was place for improvisation?Just ask any Taxi Driver, they should know. If not, I'd be surprised. 2k for the massage is all inclusive.

What you do, you have to discuss with your masseuse. Is it routine? I thought it was routine with passion, let's put it that way.

Econo Tech
12-03-10, 03:06
Does anyone know where to buy Cytotec in the Metro Manila area?Are you kidding? You need a doctor's prescription to get Cytotec and I know curiosity kills the cat, but how old is the 'delay'?

If it is more than 8 weeks, you may end up with excessive bleeding leading to death. Better seek medical help, or fly her out to Singapore to do it legally.

Steve Dubai
12-03-10, 13:01
Making my first visit to Phils on 16th Dec for 5 nights. Staying at Dusit.

I have been a long time monger in Dubai, and am balancing my trip with a couple of nights on hopeful pre-arranged dates, with other nights open to a bar pick-up or daytime pickup or whatever.

For my pre-arranged date, I am looking to take them to a classy bar or venue with band. What are the latest "in" places that I should consider taking such a date to?

WR has been great in providing some advice and contacts, and in his words I am trying to make sure I have plan A, B, C and D so that my trip is action packed.

Cheers guys
Steve

Tally Wacker
12-03-10, 17:14
I found this info on the internet...

Flight 168 Health Spa is located on the ground floor inside AF1 Entertainment Complex.

Air Force One KTV
Citi Mall Bldg.
888 Ninoy Aquino Avenue, Parañaque City 1700
Philippines

af1@thegentlemansclub.com.ph
www.thegentlemansclub.com.ph

Video of massage room:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=razuzY68CY0

Video of AF1 girls:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZxMsRloMA&feature=related


Can you give us adress and phone # of AF1 please.

Tally Wacker
12-03-10, 17:55
Here are a few photos I found relating to AF1.

DriveAllNight
12-03-10, 19:32
making my first visit to phils on 16th dec for 5 nights. staying at dusit.

i have been a long time monger in dubai, and am balancing my trip with a couple of nights on hopeful pre-arranged dates, with other nights open to a bar pick-up or daytime pickup or whatever.

for my pre-arranged date, i am looking to take them to a classy bar or venue with band. what are the latest "in" places that i should consider taking such a date to?

wr has been great in providing some advice and contacts, and in his words i am trying to make sure i have plan a, b, c and d so that my trip is action packed.

cheers guys

stevesteve, when i'm working "classy" girls in manila, i use the shangri-la hotel (makati). meet them in the entrance, then walk them across the lobby to the glassed-in lounge/restaurant. there's a string orchestra that files into the lounge and plays every half-hour. it's straight panty-peeler for your filipina, works like a charm.

for evening dates, i use conway's lounge on the second floor. low lighting, more intimate. band starts up at 9pm, usually an all-girl group that tries (usually with sucess) to get the patrons up and dancing.

to the shangri-la....a big, big thank you. your establishment is my personal butchershop for dateinasia and filipinaheart.

Benzedrine
12-04-10, 04:21
Hi TW,

Room is 2500p and one girl was 2000p for her massage services. This is for about 2 hours time. Nothing is explicitly written beyond that. I'm sure if I was thinking with my brain, I could have gotten cheaper, but this was posted upfront and being that this was my first time, I got too excited and just went for it.

CaliSounds like you visited the "business class" fishbowl and rooms on the ground floor.

Not sure what the current price is, as my last visit was July, but if you either take the elevator or spiral stairs up to the second floor, you can go to "economy class". IMO, the girls look the same, the only difference is that the rooms are half the size with a queen bed and single stall shower.

IIRC, the rooms cost between 800-1200 and the girls cost perhaps 1200ish, with a small tip expected at the end. This depends on time of day as well. The place opens around 1200-1300 so you get a slight discount until about 1700.

Cheers

GroinStrain
12-05-10, 05:14
You're a lucky bastard Steve and I'm envious. What's with the "classy bar or venue" nonscence? I've never seen you in one of those in dubai!

I stayed at the Dusit last year and there was a band in there but not of the Seaview variety in dubai. Didn't manage to find a seaview equivalent when I was there. Be careful with WRs bar recommendation as you may end up in the corner with a naked girl on your knee with your dick in her hand! My plan b, c and d there was the Havana cafe which is close to the dusit. Packed full of cute freelancers. Reasonable band with a dancefloor so you can impress your chosen girl with your famous moves!

Enjoy your trip and look forward to your normal day by day reports.

GS

Making my first visit to Phils on 16th Dec for 5 nights. Staying at Dusit.

I have been a long time monger in Dubai, and am balancing my trip with a couple of nights on hopeful pre-arranged dates, with other nights open to a bar pick-up or daytime pickup or whatever.

For my pre-arranged date, I am looking to take them to a classy bar or venue with band. What are the latest "in" places that I should consider taking such a date to?

WR has been great in providing some advice and contacts, and in his words I am trying to make sure I have plan A, B, C and D so that my trip is action packed.

Cheers guys
Steve

Cali Flip
12-05-10, 07:41
Sounds like you visited the "business class" fishbowl and rooms on the ground floor.

Not sure what the current price is, as my last visit was July, but if you either take the elevator or spiral stairs up to the second floor, you can go to "economy class". IMO, the girls look the same, the only difference is that the rooms are half the size with a queen bed and single stall shower.

IIRC, the rooms cost between 800-1200 and the girls cost perhaps 1200ish, with a small tip expected at the end. This depends on time of day as well. The place opens around 1200-1300 so you get a slight discount until about 1700.

CheersThanks, Benzedrine. Good to know in my next future encounter. Like I said, it was my first time to this "fun" establishment. I think I also didn't feel like negotiating at the time, just give me a straight amount up front. I think I was dead tired, and bored. Funny. Right after my encounter, I went back to my hotel and played poker.

Econo Tech
12-05-10, 09:30
steve, when i'm working "classy" girls in manila, i use the shangri-la hotel (makati). meet them in the entrance, then walk them across the lobby to the glassed-in lounge/restaurant. there's a string orchestra that files into the lounge and plays every half-hour. it's straight panty-peeler for your filipina, works like a charm.live music is a real panty peeler - yeah, gotta say yes ..

you could add icon in intercon, and blue ocean in moa, and also spicy finger as well as hard rock cafe.

plus my all time favourite - tabu at legazpi villaga accross greenbelt.

Wicked Roger
12-05-10, 21:56
You're a lucky bastard Steve and I'm envious. What's with the "classy bar or venue" nonscence? I've never seen you in one of those in dubai!

I stayed at the Dusit last year and there was a band in there but not of the Seaview variety in dubai. Didn't manage to find a seaview equivalent when I was there. Be careful with WRs bar recommendation as you may end up in the corner with a naked girl on your knee with your dick in her hand! My plan b, c and d there was the Havana cafe which is close to the dusit. Packed full of cute freelancers. Reasonable band with a dancefloor so you can impress your chosen girl with your famous moves!

Enjoy your trip and look forward to your normal day by day reports.

GS


GS

Steve has been 'consulting' me and I did point out the bar to avoid in case he came across some debris from your visit last year

And he has the location of Havana Cafe and a few contacts.....you know I look after my good mates GS..especially virgins to Manila

Shame am not in Manila when he is there to help be his moral guidance counsellor :eek:

Steve Dubai
12-06-10, 06:07
Shame am not in Manila when he is there to help be his moral guidance counsellor :eek:

Well I'm probably all set now...have loads of info from WR and some good pointers from the forum.

I have also set up a couple of "dates" from girls on CB. Have been following the comments on the other thread on such sites, so until it plays out I cannot be sure, but its amazing how many cute girls are willing to make dates after 5 minutes of chat, not to menion the not so cute ones who want to make dates without even chatting!!. Have been able to filter out the obvious scammers, ladyboy and girls who would have brought about 6 coupled friends expecting to all be accommodated - lets see what happens with the few I've chosen!!!

Arrive late on the 16th and will get FR's out as I can.

Steve

DriveAllNight
12-06-10, 21:58
Well I'm probably all set now...have loads of info from WR and some good pointers from the forum.

I have also set up a couple of "dates" from girls on CB. Have been following the comments on the other thread on such sites, so until it plays out I cannot be sure, but its amazing how many cute girls are willing to make dates after 5 minutes of chat, not to menion the not so cute ones who want to make dates without even chatting!!. Have been able to filter out the obvious scammers, ladyboy and girls who would have brought about 6 coupled friends expecting to all be accommodated - lets see what happens with the few I've chosen!!!

Arrive late on the 16th and will get FR's out as I can.

SteveSic 'em, Steve! Just make sure you have all that blood in the Shang lobby mopped up when I arrive in a few weeks.

Mr Giggity Goo
12-15-10, 08:10
Can anyone give me an approximate time from makati, burgos St area, to the airport on a Monday morning about 3 to 3; 30 AM. Need to be at the airport for a first flight out.

Also how are things on burgos on a Sunday afternoon? Will need some female companionship before leaving.

Anything else you can think of that might be helpful. Can PM me or answer here.

ThanksAbout 20 mins away. And if taxi is on meter around 100 peso

Steve Dubai
12-19-10, 15:02
Prologue.

After over 13 years in Dubai I finally get a chance for a mongering trip. I debate between Bangkok or Manila, however having been to Bangkok before (about 10 years ago) and recent reports that the quality has dropped recently, I decide to go for new pastures.

I join the Cherry Blossoms website, thinking I'll see if I can set-up a few dates and balance that against the Burgos bars, Greenbelt, EDSA and some daytime pick-up at Robinsons Mall. I loaded a pic of myself, and was not really prepared for the response I would get. I must have received over 1, 500 smiles, e-mails and chat requests. At first I diligently reviewed each girls profile before realizing I had to have a better filtering system, so quickly put an age, weight, manila location and no kids before I would review the profile and even start exchanging e-mails or chats.

I was amazed at how easy it was for a good looking girl to give out her number and be willing to meet. I filtered out about 70 girls who would become 'friends'. I lost a few when I discovered through probing questions that a few were ladyboys, a few expected to bring friends on the date and expect me to pay accommodation as well and a few openly 'fell in love' with me wanting me to send the airfare ticket money for them to travel to manila to meet me – yeah right!

About 8 became 'favourites' meaning it felt good to meet them and they gave me their number. 3 were students. 1 was unemployed. 4 were working in jobs (or so they said).

About 10 days before, I met Wicker Roger and he gave me more contacts and some very useful advise and tips – to this day I am so grateful for the time and effort he spared answering my newbie questions.

Day 1 – Thursday 16th December.

Arrive in Manila at around 5pm after a 9 hour overnight flight from Dubai, and I am in the hotel by 5. 45pm. I had booked a club room, but there was nothing available when I arrived. They offered a suite, but I would have to wait until 11pm, which when I started to raise my voice, they swiftly gave me the only thing that was left – yep the bloody presidential suite! Takes about an hour to settle down, then I go across the road for a local SIM card to confirm appointments for the next day. I decided to hit the Havana Café, but walked around to suss out other venues at Shangri-La and find where HRC / TGIF were for the dates.

I get to Havana Café at about 10. 30pm. Place was reasonably busy, but humid as hell, so I was not keen to sit outside. Inside and it's an awkward layout, with a column in the middle obstructing the view of the goings on in that half of the place. I grab a beer and notice the bar is lined with women I would rate 5 – 9. I get loads of looks, but my MO is to take my time and observe before homing in on any particular target.

I keep my eye on the no. 1 target, and move around the bar area to the band to start chatting. I give her some looks and gesture her to come over, but she stays put – so I pass this one. I move back to the door and stand there for a while.

I have my eye on no. 2 target now, a blink of the eyes and she's over like a flash (reminds me of the PRC in Dubai) and we start up conversation. Jenny is her name and I would rate her an 8 – not a spinner but not bulky either, probably B if not C cups. The table behind us becomes free so we sit. She has a friend with her, who I would rate a 6. We get on very well, laughing, joking and dancing.

I am rather shagged from the journey (only 3 hours sleep on the plane) , so don't want to have too much to drink and need to get back at a reasonable time, as I want to pace myself on this trip.

About midnight I confirm temporary employment for the night. She pushed for the 2 girl sale, and although she has a fun character, this is not on tonight, so to her question of how much for both girls I said Peso 2, 000 for both (I. E. 1,000 each) , but said I would pay Peso 2, 000 just for her.

Back to the Hotel and she's gobsmacked when she gets inside – so this is something I'm going to try and milk as much as possible. We are quickly DFK and she is certainly good at, and once in the bedroom we are at it in all positions. She initially only wanted to give a CBJ, but relented, however it was nothing special in the end. I probably won't repeat this one.

2. 30am and I decide to kick her out. I want a good night's sleep tonight.

Steve

DriveAllNight
12-19-10, 19:22
Back to the Hotel and she's gobsmacked when she gets inside – so this is something I'm going to try and milk as much as possible.

SteveMy fellow traveling mongers, behold the solution to the Makati equation:

Shangri-La + DIA / CB / FilCupid + collecting CP#'s at EDSA= no need for the Burgos bullshit.

The money you spend on the hotel is easily recouped through freebies, sneakouts and avoiding barfines.

Wicked Roger
12-19-10, 20:44
Prologue.

I have my eye on no. 2 target now, a blink of the eyes and she's over like a flash (reminds me of the PRC in Dubai) and we start up conversation. Jenny is her name and I would rate her an 8 – not a spinner but not bulky either, probably B if not C cups. The table behind us becomes free so we sit. She has a friend with her, who I would rate a 6. We get on very well, laughing, joking and dancing.

Back to the Hotel and she's gobsmacked when she gets inside – so this is something I'm going to try and milk as much as possible.

SteveSD.

Glad you are having fun.

The odd thing is that wherever in the world you the pretty one has a uglier, chubbier etc friend. There are exceptions when after a good early evening with a contact my good mongering mate (who had also seen a one of contacts friends. Who I think you are seeing soon :)) we decided at 11pm to head to Havana. Purely to look, drink, chat. But. 30 mins later we had 3 lovelies sat with us, none ugly all under 22 (I took 2 as I was the younger LOL).

As for hotel, good choice, it does impress but sometimes be a drawback as girl think you have lots of cash. For me, the best in Manila and worth it as the girls love the rooms IMHO (and what you do all around it especially if you get a suite :eek:)

Steve Dubai
12-20-10, 11:18
i had planned to see certain girls from cherry blossoms at the beginning of the trip, so that if they worked out great i could decide to see them again, however i would always have places like havana, burgos and edsa as back-up.

as i was texting yesterday, the girl for today lunchtime did not respond back, so i moved this morning to a contact given from wr. she was a previous resident of the dubai scene, but now back here studying. i am always anxious about blind dates, given usually my tastes can be different, but when this girl showed up, i was pleasantry surprised. she bunked off school after her lunch to meet me, and a shame she did not know yesterday as she could have brought a uniform. now she cannot go home.

she needed to have a drink to 'not be shy', and we spent time chatting while she had a tequila. once finished she needed another, and alarm bells started to go off, but i knew she was a party girl so re-assured myself that she knows how to handle her drink.

quick shower and proceedings start. she announced she wanted to cum 3 times – not sure if this is a tactic to make a guy feel he has a lot of work to do. she was great in bed, multi-orgasmic girl, up for any position, although a is not my thing so i passed that. eventually collapsed in a sweaty heap, where she says she lost count of the number of time she came. bs probably, but sure makes you feel good.

5pm and i want to kick her out. i need to sleep for an hour for tonight. she wants to stay and says she's drunk and dizzy – the alarm bells start to go off again. i give her some chocs and the agreed fee and it takes some time to get her out of the door.

moving to the night and i had arranged a date from cb, who from her pics was a 10 imho, cindy we'll call her. we arranged to meet at 8. 30pm at the shangri-la and i would take her to the mezzanine bar with band. i get a text at 6. 15pm that she is on the way. i am now thinking she's got her times mixed up, but she confirms she knows its 8. 30. what i failed to realize and do on the cb site is to check the location of where the girl lives. a 2 hour taxi drive is not only long but must be costly for these girls.

i am looking forward to this date, as we have chatted for some time on cb. i get regular texts from her on her journey. i managed to catch an hour's sleep and i am getting ready at 8pm when i get a text to say that she is in glorietta mall. i tell her to go to the hotel lobby, wait and i'll be 20 mins.

i leave the dusit at around 8. 20pm and on the way i get a text from her that how long will i be as she is sitting with her sister and antie. well guys - here's another blooper. always check that she is coming alone. we get inside the bar and we generally enjoy the night laughing, joking and dancing. we started kissing, which feels sort of strange kissing in public having spent 13 years in dubai.

but i knew the night was not going to end as i expected, so by 11. 30pm i decide to call it a night, given they have a long journey back, and i could get down to havana. so we bid our farewell, she takes a few photos and they leave to get a taxi.

i wait about 15 minutes, before leaving to walk down to havana. arrive and it's still a busy place, both outside and inside. i am approached by a number of girls as i walk towards the place, but would rate those 4/5's, so nothing to hold me back. inside and the place is packed. i see jenny from last night and we exchange smiles. she did not come across which sort of surprised me, given the fun time we had last night.

i move around to the bar area next to the band and start eyeing up a potential target. young looking, compared to most of the other girls who seem to have a fair bit of mileage, and dressed in a nice dress. we exchanged looks and not long before we are chatting. chatting was cold at first and i sensed this was due to her young age – she claimed she was 21 and did not see any reason to doubt her. time moves on and its 2am. i've had quite a few beers now and another woman arrives next to us. older, plumper and easily in her 40's, she gives me a hard stare and asks what i'm doing. i am a bit perplexed at this and ask what you mean. she says holding hands with my daughter. well omg, mother and daughter in the same bar. this made me a little uncomfortable at first, but i quickly shrugged it off as either bs, a way to extract more money or that they are both really in the game.

2. 30am and i call time. back to the hotel and she really loosens up, as if now out of mummy's looks. some nice dfk, unzip her dress which falls to the floor, revealing a nice set of b cups just ready for some tongue action. a few moments later and her panties are peeled away to reveal an unshaved pussy. well i'm not about to wait for her to shave, so that puts me off daty. into a few positions and although i cross the finish line, nothing spectacular.

4am and i kick her out.

Wicked Roger
12-20-10, 21:08
As I was texting yesterday, the girl for today lunchtime did not respond back, so I moved this morning to a contact given from WR. She was a previous resident of the Dubai scene, but now back here studying. I am always anxious about blind dates, given usually my tastes can be different, but when this girl showed up, I was pleasantry surprised. She bunked off school after her lunch to meet me, and a shame she did not know yesterday as she could have brought a uniform. Now she cannot go home.

She needed to have a drink to 'not be shy', and we spent time chatting while she had a tequila. Once finished she needed another, and alarm bells started to go off, but I knew she was a party girl so re-assured myself that she knows how to handle her drink.

Quick shower and proceedings start. She announced she wanted to cum 3 times – not sure if this is a tactic to make a guy feel he has a lot of work to do. She was great in bed, multi-orgasmic girl, up for any position, although A is not my thing so I passed that. Eventually collapsed in a sweaty heap, where she says she lost count of the number of time she came. BS probably, but sure makes you feel good.

5pm and I want to kick her out. I need to sleep for an hour for tonight. She wants to stay and says she's drunk and dizzy – the alarm bells start to go off again. I give her some chocs and the agreed fee and it takes some time to get her out of the door.

I leave the Dusit at around 8. 20pm and on the way I get a text from her that how long will I be as she is sitting with her sister and antie. Well guys. Here's another blooper. Always check that she is coming alone. We get inside the bar and we generally enjoy the night laughing, joking and dancing. We started kissing, which feels sort of strange kissing in public having spent 13 years in Dubai.

SD.

She is not BS and not kidding, she loves shagging and get very orgasmic, very wet and very naughty, said you were a nice guy and wanted to see you more and shag you more so wahted to stay. Alway likes the older westerner. Has/had a few ex UAE friends now Manila (the bisexual sisters being 2)

The only 'alarm bells' I would sound was tequila. She drinks that she really gets naughty and horny, so feed her more and taken her to Havana with you, she would have chosen one for you for the threesome :D Many a time in Dubai with other girls and guys...... in fact JSBach was a big fan of her 'abilities'. Had her at my old place with half a bottle in here and at JSB's place with a girlfriend and 2 other guys, and of course my birthday present from JSB....4 bisexual pinays (she was one). Apart from very horny shagging, tequila always involved. So she is true to her word, if you had taken her for the night best take a lot of energy pills LOL

And she is a nice girl with it, so am glad it went well, you my tastes and that they would suit yours.

As for the blooper, we all make the error at times, we forget to ask or she does not tell. Good you let off nicely with fare home as it does cost a lot based on their disposalable income

Enjoy the rest of your stay

Steve Dubai
12-21-10, 10:11
I wake up around 9am, not having slept well. I can feel the onset of a dry throat. I try to sleep again but I become more restless and by 11am I start to feel warm, but cold at the same time. I get across to the pharmacy for some strepsils and lemsip, the treatment I know works for me, but there's no lemsip, so I get some sort of paracetamol tablets instead, and they seem to work.

I have a lunch date today with another CB girl, called Jennalyn. We agreed to meet in a mall, as she would be too nervous to meet directly at my hotel. I texted her in the morning and told her I would be free in the afternoon. She responded by saying 'so I meet you for a few hours and then you go, sorry! ' I was not about to commit time into an evening with a girl that I did not know would work out, so I replied 'no problem, maybe on my next trip I will have more time. '. The reply from her was 'ok, I'll meet you at SM Mall. '

2pm and we meet, and as soon as she see's me I can sense she has gone very shy. We go to a coffee place for a drink so that we can chat and break the ice. I give her some chocs that I had bought as a gift (something she had hinted too during the chats). The conversation starts to get going, and she then asks what we should do. I suggest back to my hotel to listen to some music. I get no reaction and after a couple of minutes of further conversation I suggest if she is not comfortable going back to the hotel we can walk around the mall for a while, which she is happy with. After 45 minutes of boring window shopping I suggest back to my hotel. By this time she is holding my hand and all signs are good to go here.

Back at the Hotel and we settle on the sofa. Things seem to be getting relaxed, so at an opportune moment I lean across to give her a kiss, but she pulls away. It's now 4. 30pm and I decide to cut this one loose. By 5pm I tell her I have a work meeting to attend to and we part ways.

The evening's date was with another CB girl called Chana. I was now becoming a bit wary of wasting time on these dates, as either I don't have the knack of getting these girls into bed so quick or they require too much time I just don't have.

Instead of the original plan of meeting at the Hard Rock and wasting a full night, I decided to meet her at the hotel lobby, have a quick drink in the lobby and take it from there.

Chana arrives, and I know within 30 seconds this is not going anywhere. I tell here rather than HardRock I want to try the bar in the hotel that has a band. We walk into the place and I notice there is no band playing. I ask the waiter as we get inside; as he tells me the band does not play on a Saturday night (go figure this – as I thought Saturday night was the night for such things). We order food, but conversation is difficult, and by 10pm I tell her I am not well and need to rest, so we bid our farewells.

I decide to get down to Havana Café again, thinking Saturday night would be a jam packed night. 10. 30pm and I am walking inside, and the place is quiet, maybe only 50% full, with empty tables both inside and out. I get a beer and look around, with the same faces as previous nights. I say Hi to Jenny and a few nods to the friends of Joan of last night, although Joan was not there and get a beer hoping things will improve.

Over the next half hour a few girls arrive and I spot one potential target. I make eye contact and she comes across. Probably rate her a 7, reasonable B cups, wearing a nice black dress, with all the active dancy moves of a bubbly girl. Ella she is called and as we get chatting, one of her friends comes across and slaps her across her face. At first I thought it was a sort of friendly joke, but when she came and slapped her again, but harder, I decided to get myself out of there to avoid getting caught up in something, and moved outside.

As I decide to finish my beer and head down to Burgos St, I get chatting to 2 cute girls who are hanging around. It is now 11. 30pm. I would rate one 7 (called Maybe – where do they get their names!) , the other, Analyn a 9. They both talk very well and seem to have fun sense of humour, but sense they are not about to hang around chatting for long unless I do the deal. The whole Havana place is quieter than Friday, and I judge to start the night again down Burgos St at this time is too late, so I cut the deal with Analyn.

Back at the hotel, and we get more relaxed on the sofa. Some very nice DFK and we start to slowly undress. I gesture for a BBBJ which is met with some reluctance, and when done is a pretty poor job, which sort of kills some of the intensity for me. Her clothes come off and her stomach has the horrible remains of her stretch marks from the twins she gave birth to 3 years ago. The removal of her panties also reveals another unshaved pussy, so DATY is off the agenda again. Into the main event and she is a great shag, loves doggy the best, with those uncontrollable shivers a sure sign she enjoyed it.

By 2. 30am I decide to cut her loose as I need to conserve my energy for my lunchtime date tomorrow with two young girls.

Steve Dubai
12-21-10, 10:15
I wake up around 6am with a fever. I take more paracetamol, strepsils and cough medicine and sleep again, waking around 11am.

Today I have set up time through WR's contact for two girls, who will dress in a school uniform. A few texts to confirm things are set up and by 1pm I am taking more paracetamol to ensure I can try and keep this fever down to enjoy this fantasy.

The girls arrive, and boy I am not disappointed. Young and looking incredibly sexy when they appear in their uniforms, it is not long before I have one DFK whilst the other is giving me a BBBJ to start the proceedings. Over the next hour or so I play out one of those fantasies that has been on my to-do list for years. Cowgirl, Reverse Cowgirl, missionary, doggy, DATY – you name it – all wearing their short skirt and white blouse, now unbuttoned to see those titties bounce around.

The girls leave and I relax and wind down. Over the next few hours the fever, shivering and sweats becomes too much. I call a doctor who gives me a shot which keeps me in for tonight in the hope I can be better for the remaining two nights. I slept at around 6pm.

Steve Dubai
12-21-10, 10:19
i finally wake up fully around 11am. i am checking my phone and have 23 messages and 8 missed calls from the girls over previous days. incredible!

i have a lunchtime date with another cb girl – my last. i had thought before i came here this girl would be a sure thing for my bed, but after the experiences so far, i do not hold any hope now. i initially was going to cancel seeing this girl completely, but decided that as i was still not feeling that well, to still abstain from any strenuous activity until the night, i might as well meet to see what happens. we agree to meet at the mall of asia, and a sweet girl she is, but as with others, she came with her sister and niece. 5pm and i decide to cut this one loose, to get back to the hotel for the nights action, which i had set my mind on burgos st.

i walked out of the mall towards the taxi stand and could not believe the queue for a taxi. this is going to take me at least an hour here, something i want to avoid. but knowing i am a foreigner, and open to pay a premium, i use this and i signal to a taxi that has just dropped off someone. he gestures me to get in, which i do promptly. we have a brief discussion and i tell him i'll give him an extra 100 peso over the meter to the dusit and he agrees. the traffic marshal guy though stops him and gives him a hard time, but we move off anyway. traffic is a real nightmare and takes us nearly an hour to get to the hotel.

10pm and i'm ready for action. i decide not to hail a taxi from the hotel entrance, given it would be a sort of 'hail a taxi to where? ' announcement of shame. to explain. when you ask for a taxi at the hotel, they ask your destination, so they can tell the taxi driver. this is then communicated by walkie-talkie to the security guy who lets the taxi's through the entrance. i felt by saying burgos st would feel like announcing publicly your intentions, something i was not really comfortable for all to hear.

so i walk to the street and grab a taxi. 15 minutes later i am dropped off at the entrance to burgos st. and i walk down to survey the scene. i'm approached by a number of girls for massage which i politely ignore and a sure ladyboy judging by the tone of the voice offering me an all in service for 500 peso.

i have been primed up to visit high heels, jools and maybe rogues. i decide on jools first, as i have the impression high heels is a more raunchy establishment, and i need a middle ground to experience first.

i get inside and i am the 4th guy! not too bad when there must be about 30 or so girls either dressed in bikinis or dresses. the hostess guides me to a spot in front of the stage and within 10 seconds i am surrounded by about 15 girls all introducing themselves – mind-blowing!

the hostess gets me a beer and i sign a chit. i'm impressed as my radar is on for the padding scams. the girls all start chatting to me and its hard to make fast judgements, but you can only go only looks alone at this point, so when the hostess comes back asking which girls i would like to buy lady drinks for i pick 3, and cheers and claps are made by the girls to the three i chose.

the remaining girls all peel away and i am left with my 3 cuties. i watch the cabaret show, which i must say was quite good for a girlie bar, and spot one or two girls i wished i had waited to pick. after a couple of beers, i decide the 3 i have picked are not worth the bar fine. things have gone a little quite and they are not as fun as i had imagined in such a place. i call for the check, which was all in order and i left.

with my first experience under my belt i went down the street to high heels. i walked inside and i was only the second guy in the place. i was swarmed by about 15 girls who guided me over to a table. there were arms around my waist, rubbing my neck, chest, nipples, working down to my little brother. the hostess had to fight her way through to get my drink order.

i knew i had about 3 minutes to make a decision, so took time to look at all the girls. when the question came i chose two i most liked and the shyest one hiding at the back, just to see if there was a hidden gem there. cheers and claps were made to the 3 girls i chose. some girls left, but some still hung around – but only until another guy came in, when all available girls would swarm around him. obviously the best time to get into these places to make your choice is by being the first of the main evening shift.

within 2 minutes of the lady drinks arriving, the three girls are on my lap, they have taken off their tops, thrusting their titties into my mouth, unbuttoned my shirt, unzipped my jeans, have my dick in their hand. one girl quickly gets her shorts off and is pulling my hand to rub her crotch.

well – what can i say.

the place here does not have a cabaret show like jools, but a stage where the girls take it in shifts to dance – but they sure make up for it in other ways.

i somehow manage not to get tempted to their vip room, although not sure if they mean fs is available or it would just be a hj or bj. the three girls all take it in turns to do a dance on the stage or around the poles for my enjoyment. great.

after two rounds, i decide to bf one girl and call for the check. again all in order and i meet mama tess and pass on my regards from wr, whom she obviously holds in high regard from her reaction.

my girl goes to get changed and the two remaining girls start to dfk me until she returns, which pleasantly surprised me. we get outside and it is only then i realise how short my chosen one is. we jump into a taxi and are at the hotel 10 minutes later.

into the room and she dives into the bathroom. then my turn. i return and it is all too business like and mechanical for my liking. there is no bj and realize she has this annoying grunting sound, and after a few minutes she starts asking if i've cum yet. i am pounding away then realize she has put one of her condoms on, which is probably holding me back from finishing, so i decide to pull out and finish on her titties. this sort of surprises her, plus when i ejaculated, it shot past her head into her hair as well, and she jumped up running to the bathroom. what a laugh.

3. 30am and i want to kick her out. she asks me to escort her down as she has not been here before and is a little nervous so i agree. we walk down to the entrance and ask for a taxi, wherein it comes across the walkie-talkie for everyone to hear the destination is burgos. so there i am all the staff can now see i am putting a burgos girl into a taxi. i walk back into the hotel to the disgusted looks from the security lady on the door. but what the hell.

Wicked Roger
12-21-10, 20:14
I wake up around 6am with a fever. I take more paracetamol, strepsils and cough medicine and sleep again, waking around 11am.

Today I have set up time through WR's contact for two girls, who will dress in a school uniform. A few texts to confirm things are set up and by 1pm I am taking more paracetamol to ensure I can try and keep this fever down to enjoy this fantasy.

The girls arrive, and boy I am not disappointed. Young and looking incredibly sexy when they appear in their uniforms, it is not long before I have one DFK whilst the other is giving me a BBBJ to start the proceedings. Over the next hour or so I play out one of those fantasies that has been on my to-do list for years. Cowgirl, Reverse Cowgirl, missionary, doggy, DATY – you name it – all wearing their short skirt and white blouse, now unbuttoned to see those titties bounce around.

The girls leave and I relax and wind down. Over the next few hours the fever, shivering and sweats becomes too much. I call a doctor who gives me a shot which keeps me in for tonight in the hope I can be better for the remaining two nights. I slept at around 6pm. SD.

I did text you told you to sweat it off........seems you listened to the advice :D

The girls spent time finding the uniforms and I even asked a few mates for advice but glad they came up trumps and you managed a medical cure for your fever :)

As for the CB dates I think you show a good point, that it can be hard for someone with only 5 days to find the right match and get some decent nooky. FF has been working the web sites for a long time so has more experience so yours is nothing new and a good reminder to all of us. Fluxice also has same issues first/secod time. I was the same when I first started but so many think it is easy - it is not!!

Jools is a great for the caberet but High Heels is naughty. Took Groin Strain there on his first day ever in Manila....he ended up in the naughty corner with a half naked girl writhing on him. The mamasan/manager there is very nice. Another night Cebu favourite and I left a mate 'fighting' off 4 nipples :D My favourite bar in Burgos even better when Cebu favourite encourages the girls to play around with my zip etc. Had some fun nights there

Hope you managed a good 'farewell' to Manila and will want to come back

Steve Dubai
12-22-10, 03:26
i wake around 8am, and this is the only day that i've actually got a non p4p lunchtime meeting of work. i had also set up another date with wr's schoolie contact and have to send an apology text – hope she is not too upset with the late cancellation.

the evening rolls around and what to do for my final night. cb dates are a non-starter for my limited time. havana café is not that appealing for me in terms of set-up – i much prefer the wandering around environment. the bar area is too small with the same girlie faces each night. so i guess that leaves burgos or edsa. i plump for burgos again.

10pm and i am ready for action. a bit early i guess for burgos, so i walk down to greenbelt to walk the atmosphere. havana is packed as usual.

10. 30pm and i jump into a taxi to burgos, ignoring the taxi driver's claims he knows a better establishment with better quality girls. i get dropped off and i am looking for flamingos and rogues.

from the outside flamingos looks bigger, so i will put my head in rogues first. up the stairs and it's a sports bar type place with a few areas for the girls to dance on. i get a bar stool and am immediately surrounded by 5 girls, one of which looks rather african to me. i spot a very cute girl wearing a christmas outfit and should have been quicker in calling her over, but its too late now, she's gone. i buy two girls a drink, just to get rid of the others.

11. 30pm and i'm not prepared to bf these girls. the place has suddenly lost a large number of the girls that were dancing or were wearing christmas outfits – i noticed a few of the dancers had stopped dancing and were just standing on the counter – and sense the atmosphere is not as fun as i first arrived, so i get my check and leave.

i walk across the road to flamingos. inside and the place have all the lights switched on with no music playing, but must be full with girls. a waitress greets me and ushers me inside saying it's the staff party night. i get a table and a drink. in terms of guys there is only me and two other guys in the place, with about 50 or so girls enjoying their christmas party.

the lights dim down; as they have just finished eating, so let the party games begin. two girls join me and want to play connect 4 for a drink as a bet. i know i'm going to lose, but it's a novel way than just buying them a drink. i'm not interested in them anyway.

i spot a few girls around and try to catch their attention. a couple of them look over, but they are obviously enjoying their party night and do not rush over to join. a transvestite starts his show to the screams and cheers of the girls, then some on stage drinking games that involve drinking a bottle of san miguel through 2 straws – that saw two girls almost pass out.

i spot a very cute girl and tell her to join me. cannot be taller than 5' – a real cute spinner with probably b cups – a real cracker of a body. she comes over, roxy we'll call her, but i can sense some tension between her and the girls already sitting at the table. another girl tries to push in between me and roxy, so when the waitress comes over i order a round, but do not offer the 'pushy' girl a drink. this seems to get the message across and she backs off a little and as the waitress leaves i tell her to include a drink as well. it is christmas anyway.

with that sorted, things relax a bit. i buy them a few rounds and i am dragged up on the stage dancing. i notice about 4 others guys arrive, but that's about it. i am on stage and surrounded by girls – the occasional rub of my little brother starts to become more frequent and longer. one girl dances up close, gyrating her crotch against my stiffing member, then hands start to wrap around my waist and i can feel my belt being undone and jeans unzipped. my jeans are pulled to the floor to the cheers and screams of the girls, and another hand has held my dick. the mama in charge brings a halt to the proceedings and the girls all scurry away leaving me to get dressed again!

i get back to my table and re-acquainted with roxy. a couple more rounds and its now 2am. the girls start to get given their christmas presents. i decide to call it a day and i order the check and pay the bf for roxy.

one pleasant surprise here, is that as they are not in their 'uniform' there is no requirement to change, so the sexy dress roxy is wearing that attracted me is what she leaves in, which is great.

back at the hotel and into the room. it's a very pleasant dfk, lots of passion in the foreplay. clothes get peeled off to reveal a fabulous body and shaven pussy. i dive down for some long lost daty, which she certainly enjoys judging by the wet patch left behind and is returned by a fabulous bbbj – by far the best of the trip. move into various positions and whilst in doggy could not hold myself any longer and cross the finish line.

we cuddle for a while and i have no intention of kicking this one out. we drift off to sleep and i awake around 6. 30am for a bathroom visit. returning back sort of leads us to a morning round, more intense and longer to finish, but i sure needed the a / see to cool down once i did excrete that 10ml of bodily fluid.

10am alarm sounds, which is a shame, as this girl could have been a keeper for a few days – just my luck this happens on my last night. she returns from the bathroom in her civilian shorts and top and whilst cuddling and fooling around, the clothes come off again and another round.

i eventually bid farewell, exchanging numbers and e-mails, leaving me to pack my suitcase and head back to dubai, not knowing if i will return soon, but when i do, it'll be wr's contacts and the burgos bars that are tops for me.

merry christmas everyone.

steve

Wicked Roger
12-22-10, 05:33
I wake around 8am, and this is the only day that I've actually got a non P4P lunchtime meeting of work. I had also set up another date with WR's schoolie contact and have to send an apology text – hope she is not too upset with the late cancellation.

I walk across the road to Flamingos. Inside and the place have all the lights switched on with no music playing, but must be full with girls. A waitress greets me and ushers me inside saying it's the staff party night. I get a table and a drink. In terms of guys there is only me and two other guys in the place, with about 50 or so girls enjoying their Christmas party.

Merry Christmas everyone.

SteveSD.

So you did manage to get some work done, reading the FRs I was beginning to wonder ;)

No worries about the schoolie uniforms / girls, I will likely make good use very soon :D

Years ago when I first went into Flamingos it was packed with guys but over the years far less action there and all the Burgos bars (loads of FRs on the reasons why). While I enjoy popping in I don't take out as I have other interesting contacts. High Heels always a favourite of mine and you went there the previous night and saw why (also a favourite of Groin Strain.)

Glad you enjoyed your first visit and am sure you will return, all you need is to find a reason for the business trip and next lets try and and get dates arranged as maybe you need a moral guidance counsellor :eek:

Key Master
12-22-10, 06:46
It was great reading your thorough reports.

Few comments. Havana can get going pretty late sometimes, but I agree for the most part there isn't a lot to pick from unless you like them older, plumper and such, but there are some pretty women that do go there. I am somewhat surprised you never made it out to Manila Bay Cafe. I sense you had some good money to spend if you were buying rounds like that on Burgos so maybe a different type of trip than what others are willing to spend. Either way sounds like fun. I may need to contact WR on that school girl tandem next time. Thanks again.

Red Kilt
12-22-10, 07:47
It was great reading your thorough reports.

Few comments. Havana can get going pretty late sometimes, but I agree for the most part there isn't a lot to pick from unless you like them older, plumper and such, but there are some pretty women that do go there. I am somewhat surprised you never made it out to Manila Bay Cafe. I sense you had some good money to spend if you were buying rounds like that on Burgos so maybe a different type of trip than what others are willing to spend. Either way sounds like fun. I may need to contact WR on that school girl tandem next time. Thanks again. I agree. Great reports Steve. Just the right amount of detail.

For those of you visiting Manila at this time of year.

The traffic is horrendous and if you can find a taxi it will still take you triple the time to get from (say) Burgos to Greenbelt (or vice versa). Forget going to MBC or from Malate to Makati in any decent time before 11 or midnight.

I know of 3 Burgos girls (my faves) who are back in the province until after New Year so the pickings could be slim as the popular girls all have enough cash to take a break.

I was at Havana last night from 10. 12 pm and there were at least 5 tables empty right in the middle. I have NEVER seen it so quiet. More guys than girls.

Just a heads-up for those in decision-mode.

FreebieFan
12-22-10, 11:19
[QUOTE=Steve Dubai; 1104717]one of which looks rather African to me. I spot a very cute girl wearing a Christmas outfit and should have been quicker in calling her over, but its too late now, she's gone.

She's not African but yes she looks it. I think if you ask her she says she has some "French " mix in her. The size of her bubble butt looked highly African to e. But you should see her dance (if its the same one I'm thinking of). Great moves and wonderful hip control.

FreebieFan
12-22-10, 11:23
The lights dim down; as they have just finished eating, so let the party games begin.Steve, note for next time. Filipinas have always just finished eating LOL. Or are about to start eating.

Or thinking about eating. Or wondering what Jollibee will be serving tomorrow.

For a nation for whom many are nowhere near the poverty line, theres a whole lot of facsination with endless eating!

Rampana
12-22-10, 17:58
Steve, note for next time. Filipinas have always just finished eating LOL. Or are about to start eating.

Or thinking about eating. Or wondering what Jollibee will be serving tomorrow.

For a nation for whom many are nowhere near the poverty line, theres a whole lot of facsination with endless eating! Tha's why they become FAT very fast as soon as they enter the "promised land".

They simply can't stop eating 24/7.

Ram.

Ram

Key Master
12-23-10, 07:01
For those of you visiting Manila at this time of year.

The traffic is horrendous and if you can find a taxi it will still take you triple the time to get from (say) Burgos to Greenbelt (or vice versa). Forget going to MBC or from Malate to Makati in any decent time before 11 or midnight.

I know of 3 Burgos girls (my faves) who are back in the province until after New Year so the pickings could be slim as the popular girls all have enough cash to take a break.

I was at Havana last night from 10. 12 pm and there were at least 5 tables empty right in the middle. I have NEVER seen it so quiet. More guys than girls.

I was there in November and found some real shockingly quiet nights at Havana. And then I'd be there on a weird night like Sunday thinking slow, and they had lookers. I have no problem going to MBC after 11. It's just getting going in some ways. Personally I'd avoid going to PI during this time of the year. I know too many women and I would think they'd all be asking for gifts, plus people are more stressed this time of the year as Christmas is so big for them.

Mc Don
12-23-10, 17:22
Steve, note for next time. Filipinas have always just finished eating LOL. Or are about to start eating.

Or thinking about eating. Or wondering what Jollibee will be serving tomorrow.

For a nation for whom many are nowhere near the poverty line, theres a whole lot of facsination with endless eating! '

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LOL, what do you expect they make just about enough to pay their bills and EAT. I am still shocked that most of the bar girls don't know how to save or anything extra they earn they are happy to spend buying stupid things that they never or hardly ever use. I know one girl that blew 42000 peso in a birthday party for her son (she rented a villa with a swimming pool in Antipolo and other things) and then two weeks latter she was willing to spend a whole week with anyone, no holes barred do whatever for 6000 peso. Idiots at best.

Mc Don
12-23-10, 17:35
Thanks for the reports, enjoyed reeding them. Recently after a gem that David_33 threw my way I sort of toyed with the idea of joining one of the dating sites. I don't have the time to put into that and like you I think I will not be very successful. I simply don't have that much time in PHIL nor to I have the patience to wait 2-3 dates. I gave up on DIA after 2-3 days and now I think I made the right decision. Having said that BIG THANK YOU to David_33 for passing on my phone number to the students that wanted to suck cocks. As he accurately described them. I have been busy with work so I haven't had the time to do a full report but in short one in particular turned to be a stunner that was not shy at all. Had a good session of grabbing and kissing in the lobby restaurant in Shagri La, an interesting session in one of the changing rooms in MOA as well very enjoyable time in the taxi and the hotel room. Peaty she was a virgin and wanted to stay that way. Different kind of fun, enjoyable and sort of unique in many ways.

Like you I hate havana for the fact that it is outdoors and the heat gets to me. I prefer MBC for the FL action or the nightclubs / discos. Burgos though is my fav place in Manila although for daytime fun MBC is great too considering options are limited.