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PeeMan

05-19-13, 08:00

on the other side i made a friendly indian guy who used to live 22 years in makati, he took me to a place with cheap draft beer just ride beside jools, its called woodman, like that, has a billard, indian buffet for 250 p all you can eat, nice staff, mostly expat there and good hang out place to get info and contacts where to go and what to do in makati.i will need some indian food while i am there the day after. thanks! is the food also cheap?

ps make sure you have a wing man when you go for some drinkin and barhopping otherwise you will wonder why the owner in the bar will approach you quite often and shake ur hands.after i received the bill i did know why :d.so watch ur drinkin and leave ur golden american express at home :d.for picture check out photogallerywhat exactly is the scam here? do they bill you for more than you eat and drink or just try to ensure you stay and keep ordering more?

. as for the club fiasco a similar incident happened to me back in may. full nude bar in (blue pacific) pasay, fish bowl, live show “vip” rooms the works. i am adding up my bill in my head but when i get the “bill” lets just say that’s some strange math they use. i hope the bars at edsa dont do this also? i am flying tomorrow and don't want to be trapped.

i read the report of distinction about edsa and places about makati some 30 pages back, i loved it. but its an old post. what are the current bar fines for girls from flamingo or hollywood for lt? and how much can i expect to pay for fls in mbc or havana today for lt?

i am going to sabang, puerto galera 2 hrs from manila for 3 nights (diving) and i heard all the fls there have been chased away by over-policing in collusion with the bar owners who see their bar fines dropping. in fact i believe they have 7 or 8 street-cams ostensibly for security but really to keep tabs on any fl ladies and tourists making out with them and create trouble for them. and so the fls have all but disappeared there. and the bar fines are now jacked up to 3000 or 3500 peso range... and the mamma-san they push all the young good lookers on korean tourists leaving the fat slobs for others. i found this discussed on google in another forum. is it really true? any recent experiences?

if so whats the chance of hooking up with an fl at mbc or havana the day before and taking her with me for 3 nights, at the drop of a umm... panty? on the side i am indian not a white americano or european, so this is likely to affect my chances of finding a great one i think. i am very clean looking though so i hope they will take their chances with me.

i will appreciate it if anyone shares their contacts with me. any one knows tall narrow waisted leggy ones with d cups and thick hair and fit for glamour and fashion photography? oops ... am i asking for too much? ;)

ps: last question - are camera's tolerated in the bars? how safe is it to take a very expensive camera to shoot the night life while trying to pick up a gal? if i promise not click the faces of patrons is it ok? i want to try my hand at glamour photograhy at billboard's for example.

thanks!
-peeman

X Man

05-19-13, 11:16

am i paranoid, or is this guy asking too many weird questions. and now he wants specific woman contacts? has anyone reviewed his past posts? i hope i'm wrong, but i'm getting bad vibes!

peeman, no cameras, especially at the complex. no guns either. they search you as you enter. i've never had my bill padded there.

i will need some indian food while i am there the day after. thanks! is the food also cheap?

what exactly is the scam here? do they bill you for more than you eat and drink or just try to ensure you stay and keep ordering more?

i hope the bars at edsa don't do this also? i am flying tomorrow and don't want to be trapped.

i read the report of distinction about edsa and places about makati some 30 pages back, i loved it. but its an old post. what are the current bar fines for girls from flamingo or hollywood for lt? and how much can i expect to pay for fls in mbc or havana today for lt?

i am going to sabang, puerto galera 2 hrs from manila for 3 nights (diving) and i heard all the fls there have been chased away by over-policing in collusion with the bar owners who see their bar fines dropping. in fact i believe they have 7 or 8 street-cams ostensibly for security but really to keep tabs on any fl ladies and tourists making out with them and create trouble for them. and so the fls have all but disappeared there. and the bar fines are now jacked up to 3000 or 3500 peso range. and the mamma-san they push all the young good lookers on korean tourists leaving the fat slobs for others. i found this discussed on google in another forum. is it really true? any recent experiences?

if so whats the chance of hooking up with an fl at mbc or havana the day before and taking her with me for 3 nights, at the drop of a umm. panty? on the side i am indian not a white americano or european, so this is likely to affect my chances of finding a great one i think. i am very clean looking though so i hope they will take their chances with me.

i will appreciate it if anyone shares their contacts with me. any one knows tall narrow waisted leggy ones with d cups and thick hair and fit for glamour and fashion photography? oops. am i asking for too much? .

ps: last question. are camera's tolerated in the bars? how safe is it to take a very expensive camera to shoot the night life while trying to pick up a gal? if i promise not click the faces of patrons is it ok? i want to try my hand at glamour photograhy at billboard's for example.

thanks!

-peeman

FreebieFan

05-19-13, 11:38

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ps: last question. are camera's tolerated in the bars? how safe is it to take a very expensive camera to shoot the night life while trying to pick up a gal? if i promise not click the faces of patrons is it ok? i want to try my hand at glamour photograhy at billboard's for example.

thanks!

-peemana french guy, walking on roxas boulevard was shot and killed after he refused to give his expensive camera and bag to two guys on a bike recently. happened at 8am. rip. you taking an expensive camera into the bars are going to totally attract attention from all the wrong sort of people. and pburgos has plenty of the wrong sort.

a word to the wise. lock your expensive camera in your safe. or better yet, leave it in your home and use a pocket size point and shoot. is your life more valuable than your camera. you may have to answer that question sooner than you think.

WestCoast1

05-19-13, 15:39

am i paranoid, or is this guy asking too many weird questions. and now he wants specific woman contacts? has anyone reviewed his past posts? i hope i'm wrong, but i'm getting bad vibes!ya. peeman, enough with all the questions. 38 posts, 2 india, the rest questions about phils. claims he's going there for diving, not snatch. asks more questions of experienced gents than you can shake a stick at. offers no boots-on-the-ground info. its taking without giving.

the gents here will usually only share contact info of girls with guys they have actually met in real life. go there, and file a few descriptive field reports.

PeeMan

05-19-13, 17:58

a french guy, walking on roxas boulevard was shot and killed after he refused to give his expensive camera and bag to two guys on a bike recently.

a word to the wise. lock your expensive camera in your safe. or better yet, leave it in your home and use a pocket size point and shoot. is your life more valuable than your camera. you may have to answer that question sooner than you think.you mean its not safe anywhere in phil? i can understand the comment about the red light areas and the odd brutal robbery in the city. ok i'll keep it in my safe. thanks.

am i paranoid, or is this guy asking too many weird questions. and now he wants specific woman contacts? has anyone reviewed his past posts? i hope i'm wrong, but i'm getting bad vibes!

peeman, no cameras, especially at the complex. no guns either. they search you as you enter. i've never had my bill padded there.haha, just pause a minute and reflect that i didn't ask for the number of your wife or a regular girlfriend. for the benefit of everyone reading this, i just asked about fl contacts known to travel - to remove the uncertainity or possibility that i don't find that great looking gal worth spending on, because i got just one evening for scouting fls (with one for the gogo bars) and just one night in cebu. the rest of the time i spend in diving resorts and i dont stand a chance of finding anyone there. unless xman think the sluts we screw are personal property that nobody else can touch... lol! or deluded enough to beleive that such women are so loyal to you, that you cannot share them. you make me laugh. i expected a more rational approach for an experienced monger. thanks for assuring me about the bill padding bit though.

ya. peeman, enough with all the questions. 38 posts. 2 india, the rest questions about phils. claims he's going there for diving, not snatch. asks more questions of experienced gents than you can shake a stick at. offers no boots-on-the-ground info. its taking without giving.

the gents here will usually only share contact info of girls with guys they have actually met in real life. go there, and file a few descriptive field reports.

diving with snatch yes (also known as a speciality called cave diving ;) ). so you understand its an expensive hobby and i spend more there than many guys here spend on the gals. and so i got a budget to live with on my new mongering hobby yes.

but i understand this is the culture on this forum. and knowing the history on this forum i wasn't really expecting much by way of a response. but i saw no harm in typing a few extra lines to ask anyways. but thanks for your return effort of typing anyways. i'll try and maintain a captain's log book this time so i can remember the details of every gal to type after the vacation. advice taken.

-peeman

Island Associate

05-31-13, 07:21

There are no massage parlors in the Makati area now.

Or am I mistaken?

Irony Monger

05-31-13, 20:23

There are no massage parlors in the Makati area now.

Or am I mistaken?You are mistaken. Walk anywhere within 3 blocks of P. Burgos and you will be hit up by massage girls every few meters. Some are freelancers, but many belong to licenced massage parlors and wear their licences on lanyards around their necks. However, I have never partaken of their services in Makati (have used licenced massage girls elsewhere in PI though).

Also, you don't say what you want out of a massage parlor. Are you looking for a decent massage, or are you looking for extras?

PeeMan

06-07-13, 04:41

i was there a few days back. the whole street is flooded with masseur girls until 2am and later in the morning when it thins out. some of them with i. d tags from the nearby spa, many of them ladyboys. also the rare sweet young innocent just off school girl types but not really many that might score even a 7/10 in the looks department. you can certainly talk to the nicest looking gal about extras. they will never recoil in horror or show a negative attitude, rather gracefully say no with an apologetic tone and a warm smile or a grin. i got one to give me a bj in my room. unfortunately if the masseur lady is not a seasoned and mature worker who provides extras, they won't know about v-douches and may not inspire the best in you. hence i didn't ask for more even though i know she would have relented.

so don't feel shy to ask. but i was told by my masseur lady that some of them agree initially then start extorting money for the real act once in the room. so ymmv.

-peeman

Wicked Roger

06-07-13, 05:54

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PussyFeelsGood

06-07-13, 18:52

3 frs two of which were deleted due to references to transsexuals back in 2009 and now this opus magnus lol

the pi board has really missed you and i really wonder why people bother to reply but then it is peeman who also writes similar witty frs.

you ask about massage places in makati? really and you can't even google the answer before you waste bandwidth?do you really have nothing better to do than to troll this board breaking downs everyones posting history?

wasted bandwith? lol

Start123

06-08-13, 00:01

Yes, as the title says that what I am looking for. Nuru massage, full body to body sliding, just like in a famous porn site. I'll be styling in Makati for one day only and would like to relax like this. Any info is greatly appreciated as always!

X Man

06-08-13, 11:47

peeman said he would give fr and i'm glad to see he has kept his word.

the new posters ("newbies") have been given quite a bit of scrutiny and challenges in recent months. i know some of you think it is unnecessary harrassment. it isn't. there is some worry that certain elements may be gathering information not for their own pleasure, but to cause trouble for the gals. or guys like us. bars get raided, people get arrested.

for regular posters here, there is often only two or three degrees of live (not virtual) social connection. in other words, i met y and he told me he met z and a. just call me x, btw.

so if you show up asking for names and places and certain services, you're going to get some push back. having names like peeman and psyflsgd might also raise some red flags.

i was there a few days back. the whole street is flooded with masseur girls until 2am and later in the morning when it thins out. some of them with i. d tags from the nearby spa, many of them ladyboys. also the rare sweet young innocent just off school girl types but not really many that might score even a 7/10 in the looks department. you can certainly talk to the nicest looking gal about extras. they will never recoil in horror or show a negative attitude, rather gracefully say no with an apologetic tone and a warm smile or a grin. i got one to give me a bj in my room. unfortunately if the masseur lady is not a seasoned and mature worker who provides extras, they won't know about v-douches and may not inspire the best in you. hence i didn't ask for more even though i know she would have relented.

so don't feel shy to ask. but i was told by my masseur lady that some of them agree initially then start extorting money for the real act once in the room. so ymmv.

-peeman

WestCoast1

06-08-13, 12:58

Do you really have nothing better to do than to troll this board breaking downs everyones posting history?

Wasted bandwith? LOLPFG: Its just the opposite. We find, on occasion, someone who probably should be banned, simply because of his posting history. I believe a guy who called himself FoxesHunter here on the board wrote in here on the phils threads asking lots of questions. He claimed he had been around, but was making a maiden voyage to phils. Where can I find the best hotels? Where can I find the best girls? Can you guys give me some contact information of your girls? Yet, he offered nothing of substance (taking without giving). A quick check of his many posts showed that he had pulled the same crap on ISG in multiple country's threads. He was asking the same questions in europe, central / south america, and so on, without filing real field reports (again, taking without giving). Somebody ban this guy. While that might be acceptable elsewhere on ISG (really its not) , its certainly not acceptable here.

The open board is here to help regular board contributors Converse; not lurkers with questions. Newbs should keep questions off the main board, and ask them in PM. Want to ask questions here on the open board? Go to phils, write up a detailed experience you had there, THEN ask questions on the open board (contribute). We are guarded with our information (and for good reasons). We are glad for lurkers / readers to glean information from reading the posts, but not with them popping up with their own questions. If we could not see FoxesHunter's previous posts, we would never know he was just trolling.

First-time contributors, some things to describe when you post: What hotel did you stay at, with a nightly price. Was there anything unusual that you liked / disliked about the hotel. Was it not girl-friendly (they almost all are). Where did you eat, and how was the food? Describe your girl; how did you meet, what kinds of nawty did you enjoy? What malls did you hit? What did you do with your down-time? Describe the mundane even: where did you get laundry done? Did you sight-see? What did you think of the locals?

Wicked Roger

06-08-13, 16:17

PFG: Its just the opposite...Exactly WC1. I earned a strike 1 for that FR. You nicely pointed out what irks some of us including RK, you, CS TW et al.

FreebieFan

06-09-13, 02:40

. We are guarded with our information (and for good reasons). We are glad for lurkers / readers to glean information from reading the posts, but not with them popping up with their own questions.

?And of course if you have a handle such a " IJM1" " Aretheyover18" " letsbringCNNonthenextraid". You might get lots of push back!

PussyFeelsGood

06-09-13, 20:23

Westcoast you do realize you don't run this place right?

You are just a poster like everyone else, but enjoy the power trip you think you are having.

Lopkx

06-09-13, 21:01

WhatsUrName

06-09-13, 22:49

I will be in makati for a few weeks and I am thinking of renting a condo instead of usual hotels I have before. Has anyone ever stayed in the condos located at One Rockwell, close to the PowerPlant mall? I am not too familiar with that area, I have always stayed around Glorietta and Greenbelt. Are these condos nice, safe area, I am assuming gf?Hi Lopkx,

I have not stayed specifically in One Rockwell, but I have stayed in the other towers in the Power Plant\Rockwell complex. I must say I love staying at the Rockwell complex. Power plant Mall is just across the street. P Burgos area is just down the street. Greenbelt is a short cab ride. I could definitely retire there.

There are several towers in the Power plant complex, each named after a different Filipino painter, such as Joya, Edades, and Manansala. I understand that One Rockwell is the newest and premiere property in the complex, although they have some newer, fancier ones currently under construction. I could definitely recommend a few weeks in One Rockwell...

Mtodd69

06-09-13, 23:52

Hi Lopkx,

I have not stayed specifically in One Rockwell, but I have stayed in the other towers in the Power Plant\Rockwell complex. I must say I love staying at the Rockwell complex. Power plant Mall is just across the street. P Burgos area is just down the street. Greenbelt is a short cab ride. I could definitely retire ther...ALCON,

I have stayed at the One Rockwell (Joya tower) last March. This place is pretty good if you like a low profile. Girlfriend and very discreet with staff. They look smile and security guard will give you a grin if they approve of your choice.

1. Each tower has gyms and pools better then Makati hotels.

2. Restaurants / bars are central located so easy to walk to if you want.

3. Plus you have many places will deliver food right to your room.

4. Many caregivers in this location because about 75% of the people who live in the one Rockwell are here for business and they foolishly brought their wives.

Note: These girls really want some attention, so happy hunting!

Hutsori

06-10-13, 03:54

4. Many caregivers in this location because about 75% of the people who live in the one Rockwell are here for business and they foolishly brought their wives.

Note: These girls really want some attention, so happy hunting!The best thing about this is since they are residents they have unfettered access to your place. Who doesn't want this? You'll be in the condo with today's maid whilst yesterday's exotic beauty is banging on the door. Hilarity ensues.

This brings to mind the risk of surprise visits. My 2pm was getting ready to leave and my 8pm showed up 45 minutes early. (What happened to them being reliably unreliable?) Anyway the guard called up but I didn't answer the phone. Never do so if you have a girl in your place and you're not expecting anyone. I had an idea of what awaited me in the lobby. This was confirmed a few moments later by a text: "Hi babe, I guess you are not home yet. I'm waiting in the lobby." Fortunately my condo is two towers with a shared parking garage. I took my guest down to the second floor, we walked through the garage so I could "check my friend's car; I let him use my parking space." (Note: never claim to "own" a car or else the girl will want you to pick her up and drive her home.) We entered the neighbouring tower, then the elevator down to the lobby, and led my guest out to the street. U turn, go to my tower, enter the lobby, and "Hi baby, what a nice surprise you arriving early." Into my unit we go, excuse myself to use the toilet, and it's time for emergency sanitization. My girl later enters the bathroom, takes a seat, and spies a tube of KY under my bed. Whoops. "Who was here?!?" "Baby, I use that for masturbation too."

Red Kilt

06-10-13, 04:23

.SNIP. I took my guest down to the second floor, we walked through the garage so I could "check my friend's car; I let him use my parking space." (Note: never claim to "own" a car or else the girl will want you to pick her up and drive her home.) We entered the neighbouring tower, then the elevator down to the lobby, and led my guest out to the street. U turn, go to my tower, enter the lobby, and "Hi baby, what a nice surprise you arriving early." Into my unit we go, excuse myself to use the toilet, and it's time for emergency sanitization. My girl later enters the bathroom, takes a seat, and spies a tube of KY under my bed. Whoops. "Who was here?!?" "Baby, I use that for masturbation too."Great descriptive narrative H.

This is the fun part of mongering, especially when you try to cover all bases and you overlook some small detail like the KY tube.

Luckily for us the girls are quite accepting of the tales we spin, and they never question that we might be full of bola bola.

Hutsori

06-10-13, 05:06

Luckily for us the girls are quite accepting of the tales we spin, and they never question that we might be full of bola bola.She was extra snoopy for while so I know she wasn't completely satisfied with the explanation. Fortunately no hairs anywhere and all the toilet issue was removed from the bin and flushed down the bog.

I now have three girls who leave hygiene items and some clothing at my place. Juggling the hiding and placing them back is a hassle. So far I've forgotten to put out some items and have put out the wrong items a few times."Where's my shampoo?" And,"This isn't my toothbrush!" To cover myself I disappear some of their things whilst they sleep, for instance the toothbrush she used a few hours earlier is now gone when she awakes. When she isn't looking at me I'll put the item back: "Baby, what are you talking about? It's right here." I attribute these comings and goings to a ghost that lives in my bathroom. I'd rather have them believe I'll pulling pranks than believe what I'm really doing.

Pip Jaeger

06-10-13, 10:05

The best thing about this is since they are residents they have unfettered access to your place. Who doesn't want this? You'll be in the condo with today's maid whilst yesterday's exotic beauty is banging on the door. Hilarity ensues.

This brings to mind the risk of surprise visits.Very funny story; brings back some good memories; thanks for the laugh H!

I now have three girls who leave hygiene items and some clothing at my place. Juggling the hiding and placing them back is a hassle. So far I've forgotten to put out some items and have put out the wrong items a few times I attribute these comings and goings to a ghost that lives in my bathroom.Had similar issues last year in Cebu. You can try using some of those gallon sized "Zip-Loc" baggies; just don't forget to write the respective girls' names on them with a permanent marker.

Wicked Roger

06-10-13, 16:16

Westcoast you do realize you don't run this place right?

You are just a poster like everyone else, but enjoy the power trip you think you are havingHe does realise that as we all do, but facts are that he has 1877 FRs plus photos and contributes. You have 9 FRs and are critical. Those are facts (please check of you don't believe me). Hence he is entitled to his view as much as anyone as I am. The PI is great one of the best so many try and keep it that way.

Mt69 : good information as I stay in hotels near there and always eat out so maybe try that next time am in Makati as I need a change and a condo could offer more scope for fun caregivers nothwithsatnding.

Hutsori: funny read and remind of my friend's wife who had a good DNA eye and would spot a long black / brown hair at 50 paces. I would get texts from him saying "she is calling please take the blame again". I always did until she found his secret USB (why he kept at his house is very silly). She is not talking me either now LOL

Lopkx

06-11-13, 01:48

.This brings to mind the risk of surprise visits. My 2pm was getting ready to leave and my 8pm showed up 45 minutes early. (What happened to them being reliably unreliable?) Anyway the guard called up but I didn't answer the phone. Never do so if you have a girl in your place and you're not expecting anyone. I had an idea of what awaited me in the lobby. .U turn, go to my tower, enter the lobby, and "Hi baby, what a nice surprise you arriving early." Into my unit we go, excuse myself to use the toilet, and it's time for emergency sanitization. My girl later enters the bathroom, takes a seat, and spies a tube of KY under my bed. Whoops. "Who was here?!?" "Baby, I use that for masturbation too."Great stories guys and thanks all for the information. I am convince I will stay at the One Rockwell. Yes I was looking for low key.

Hutsori's story reminds me a year ago when I had one of my regulars in my place in makati she left her lingerie in the back of the door of the bathroom. I didn't noticed until I had another one of my regulars in my place and when I saw it I had a cool chill go down my back. The other girl was in living room and I was in bathroom inside my bedroom, I quickly took the lingerie throw it under the bed and later throw it in the trash. Than a few days later other girl says she things she left it in my place because it is not at her house. I told her that I haven't seen anything that maybe housekeeping took it with towel replacement or she misplaced it at her house. I think girls leave things purposely to get you in trouble. The pros and cons of going out with non-pros.

Econo Tech

06-11-13, 06:46

I think girls leave things purposely to get you in trouble. The pros and cons of going out with non-pros.They do it to stake their territory. Heck, even pros do it.

Try it. When you have a pro and somebody calls, just say "my GF" and make her the sign of lips sealed, and see if the pro really keeps her mouth shut? They get their rocks in seeing a punter getting burnt, left right and center and relish it. Trust me on that.

FreebieFan

06-11-13, 08:57

. Than a few days later other girl says she things she left it in my place because it is not at her house. I told her that I haven't seen anything that maybe housekeeping took it with towel replacement or she misplaced it at her house. I think girls leave things purposely to get you in trouble. The pros and cons of going out with non-pros.In my apartment my regular gf leaves all her make up, earrings, toothbrush, slippers etc. As she's not the only one I see I have a routine down pat of putting all her stuff in a bag or two till the plan B / C/D girl has been and gone. Thanks to have taken a pic beforehand I can put it all back as it was.

Of course hair in the bed, floor etc is a problem and panty liners. Those girls leave them everywhere.

Was once found out when the handprints on the mirror (I had been doing a girl from behind standing up) kind of gave them game away.

Member #4387

06-11-13, 09:44

Wow great to read I am not the only one do mistakes regarding GF, regulars, fl's and other "friends" paying us a visit. I have to admit I am not so well organized as freebiefan and a few of the others. But as for girls belongings this problem only occures sometimes as I normaly don't have ladies staying over so long as they will need to keep some stash at my place (s).

What comes to mind in my relatively simple mongerlife is hair from the beauties, tends to fall down everywhere, but places I keep a look out for hair is in the bathroom and in bed. Black hair elsewhere is excused from bad cleaning.

Even if it is only regular girls or freelancers both categories are surprisingly (the latter) interested in what I am doing and if I do see several girls. I have a relatively short answerbehaviour to questions like this and it is: "no no ofcourse not, I'm am not like that, what you think of me?"

Latest mistakes from recent Makati stay are: allready mentioned hair, especially in the sofa (after som teasing and soft hairpulling) , surprisingly a condom was found at the end of the bed where the bedcovers are tucked in (that was a tricky one to get out of) , one forgotten bra hanging to dry at its hidden (atleast for me) location in the bathroom, red lipstickmarks at a glass in the kitchen (damn I did say no to housekeeping) , and typical female waste in the wastebin in the bathroom (I did infact cover it all with placing toiletpaper at the top but obviously these cute little pussycats are great detectives as well). And ofcourse I left my phone at the table so one girl could see my previous visitor in all his beauty on my coach relatively nude.

Well housekeeping gets most of the blame, not fair but i believe they can handle it as it is not personal at all. For the other minors mistakes I have created a non existing friend visiting my apartment sometimes as he cheats his wife. I have no idea if they realy believe it or not. First of all I have relatively few friends in Makati atleast the one i do know dont need a secret hideout place. It all ends up with fucking anyway so they seem not to take it so hard. Ofcourse the girl who did find the condom got almost the truth as this was pre inventing of my "secret friend" but I said I was a safe player and allways used condoms (which obviously is bullshit) but pinays are very forgiving and she was happy with this explenation. And they are funny to as minutes later talking about safe sex I am doing her BB like there was no tomorrow with only a smile on her face..

Hutsori

06-11-13, 09:50

Was once found out when the handprints on the mirror (I had been doing a girl from behind standing up) kind of gave them game away.Yowza! Thanks for the heads up on that one.

One I've learnt is sit on the crapper and observe the bathroom from the girl's viewpoint. It's quite revealing what one misses when standing.

This happened years ago in Seoul. After attending a party I was fucking a juicy girl in an Itaewon bar. I pulled off the condom, tossing it aside to let the girl finish with a BBJ. Deed done I dressed and went home. My then girlfriend was home. I walked in, chatted with her for a few minutes, turned around to go the bedroom to change. "What is on your back?!?" she screamed. "Huh?" And there it was. The condom.

FreebieFan

06-11-13, 15:36

I walked in, chatted with her for a few minutes, turned around to go the bedroom to change. "What is on your back?!?" she screamed. "Huh?" And there it was. The condom.In my former days of being a good husband, had been out in p burgos and had diligently made sure I had no perfume or lipstick on my face courtesy of wet wipes.

Walked in to bedrooom at home and said spouse said "whats that on your face".

I had wiped off the lipstick and perfume but some ladies face or perhaps it was her body had been adorned with glitter. That stuff is impossible to remove.

Sheepish grins from Freebie ensued.

Tally Wacker

06-11-13, 15:56

And ofcourse I left my phone at the table so one girl could see my previous visitor in all his beauty on my coach relatively nude.Skogis I hope you don't add HIS photos to the gallery and I guess this is why you used a condom. Haha

Member #4387

06-12-13, 12:28

Skogis I hope you don't add HIS photos to the gallery and I guess this is why you used a condom. HahaHo ho ho well to late to edit now. I can assure it was a HER though believe it or not. LOL

Terwagne

06-14-13, 14:15

Tickles in Burgos was open at 3. 30 pm. About 10 girls and only one lonely and older Japanese customer surrounded by 5 girls. Lots of laughter and banter. Some girls topless. On stage two girl were lazily shuffling. I asked the pretty and slender one to my table. LD 175 P, and Lyn gradually brought up the temperature with cuddles, kisses and strokes. 34 yo from Cebu. BF 2000 P. Great time at my hotel. Lyn has talents in BBBJ and DFK. Great sex. Recommended. (flat chested and lack of body tone) Two other bars in the vicinity were also open.

PeeMan

06-14-13, 18:27

tickles in burgos was open at 3. 30 pm. about 10 girls and only one lonely and older japanese customer surrounded by 5 girls. lots of laughter and banter. some girls topless. on stage two girl were lazily shuffling. i asked the pretty and slender one to my table. ld 175 p, and lyn gradually brought up the temperature with cuddles, kisses and strokes. 34 yo from cebu. bf 2000 p. great time at my hotel. lyn has talents in bbbj and dfk. great sex. recommended. (flat chested and lack of body tone) two other bars in the vicinity were also open.did you say bf 2000 only? i bar hopped every damn place there last fortnight and nobody quoted less than 3900! the beer s was 160p and ld 300 at most places except the first few i recall were cheaper.

-peeman

LuvumBare

06-14-13, 20:33

He does realise that as we all do, but facts are that he has 1877 FRs plus photos and contributes. You have 9 FRs and are critical. Those are facts (please check of you don't believe me). Hence he is entitled to his view as much as anyone as I am. The PI is great one of the best so many try and keep it that way.

Mt69 : good information as I stay in hotels near there and always eat out so maybe try that next time am in Makati as I need a change and a condo could offer more scope for fun caregivers nothwithsatnding.

Hutsori: funny read and remind of my friend's wife who had a good DNA eye and would spot a long black / brown hair at 50 paces. I would get texts from him saying "she is calling please take the blame again". I always did until she found his secret USB (why he kept at his house is very silly). She is not talking me either now LOLYou bring back great memories about the PIPER of Dubai and his tales of tail and other happy events. Whatever happened to him? I can't believe he is celibate!

Pip Jaeger

06-15-13, 00:13

did you say bf 2000 only? i bar hopped every damn place there last fortnight and nobody quoted less than 3900! the beer s was 160p and ld 300 at most places except the first few i recall were cheaper.a few bars on burgos run a 50% off special on sundays, both on the bf's and the drinks. you just have ask and / or read the signage out front or near the door.

Terwagne

06-15-13, 07:33

did you say bf 2000 only? i bar hopped every damn place there last fortnight and nobody quoted less than 3900! the beer s was 160p and ld 300 at most places except the first few i recall were cheaper.

-peemanyes i confirm bf 2000 p and ld 175 p at tickles: all three open bars were empty of customers, so happy hour makes sense. terwagne.

Wicked Roger

06-15-13, 07:56

You bring back great memories about the PIPER of Dubai and his tales of tail and other happy events. Whatever happened to him? I can't believe he is celibate!LOL.

Piper is around but no longer on the board for a number of reasons. Especially after Wildcat really caught him. I took the blame for many of his misgivings over the years but this time I could not given the nature of the 'crime'. Those were good days.

Apologies of this is off PI topic but nice to see someone remembers Piper.

D Cups

06-15-13, 16:44

=Skogis; 1432834]Wow great to read I am not the only one do mistakes regarding GF, regulars, fl's and other "friends" paying us a visit.I usually switch hotels or at least rooms one or two or three times times each location and put a new chip in my camera each time.

Wicked Roger

07-03-13, 16:32

This is a new bar (at least for me) and is located on P Burgos up from Rogues on the same side. It is just about opposite Bottoms where I went before Plan B opened (at 9pm but closes at 5am)

Unlike Bottoms which I like but was far too noisy and I could not hear a word anyone from the group said, Plan B was noisy but the music as at a level where you hear the girls etc. Nice line up and I found a few lesbian / bisexuals as well as a very cute one who had been there 2 months.

Barfine is 2500 pesos and then you pay the girl as bar keeps all. Girls come an go, no penalty for no show and the lively mamsan is always friendly.

And no girls swarm on you asking for lady drinks (200 for 'Baileys' 300-400 for tequila) so there is no pressure to buy.

All in all a nice place so go visit, lots of punters as well unlike Bottoms that had 4 guys only. Koreans were there also some US military (1 beer no lady drinks, looking very military!)

Will visit this again with my bisexual Cebuanas as at 2 cuties there that they would devour LOL.

SportMongr

07-04-13, 04:10

My first time hunting in Makati, in the day a girl told me Plan B was a disco night club, stopped in to meet a bud. I guess language barrier, it's a lively gogo. Much less cost than the 3900 bf and 400 peso l'd quoted at Moulin rouge. My bud says. This black guy is getting lots of love and tossing pesos on stage. His 1st time in pi, and seeing the make it rain show. Closer look and for ufc fight fans Q rampage Jackson has smiles ear to ear. Sure it's not his first time or any ufc fighters in a working girl bar. Surprised the dude is A lot smalller in person,. Ok onto the norm surprised at all the massage girls. All quote 2000 pesos for total. That is very negotiable. I'm sad to see not much variety on the st. Most burgos st girls are the tiny tiny type. I like to change it up often. Took a chubby cute girl pleasant mild manner.fairly young face 24ish hsr name is Kim, very good BJ skills no teeth, small vag. Even though she has baby no stretch marks on body. It was a nice 2 popper in a little over a hour. She had very good acting vocals that helped. Would take again but with so much candy to sample.

Tally Wacker

07-04-13, 17:17

This black guy is getting lots of love and tossing pesos on stage. His 1st time in pi, and seeing the make it rain show. Closer look and for ufc fight fans Q rampage Jackson has smiles ear to ear. Sure it's not his first time or any ufc fighters in a working girl bar. Surprised the dude is A lot smalller in person.Looks like he is going to drop some pesos in Subic Bay too.

Jackson disclosed he has been to the Philippines a couple of times before, and he's looking forward to go on vacation here after the fight: "We'll do some sightseeing, hang out with my friends, do some shopping. Enjoy the food and go to Subic. I'm going to ride some jet skis. I'll probably go to Jollibee a few times."

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.342327059141684.71307.307394205968303&type=3

Traveler1234

07-04-13, 18:30

Piper is around but no longer on the board for a number of reasons. Especially after Wildcat really caught him.We had some fun time at LOS years back at Giotto's place. Next time you see him in Dubai, give him my regards. He'll remember me - one of the 'old-timers' that will be missed.

SportMongr

07-04-13, 19:39

So after some research, threads tell me to check out hh, I'm a big ratio guy-and I hate being in the bars with big fish or wannabes, step in hh, maybe 1 guy tucked somewhere when I walk in, asap I am swarmed by 5 6 girls. Super agressive and sexed up grabbbing my hands and putting them on puss ass etc. Tits flying out, its so dark and 6 girls inches from you hard to get a chance to even shop. But how the fuck do you tell them to go, I want to pick on my own terms. So I go with the flow, hell it is fun as hell but I know what the plan is. Mama rolls by and says drinks for all. Hell no I'm not that much of a newbie, or cash cow to say yes. To me thats a barfine right there. I say mama I only want 1 chica tonight, hoping the show will end. I'm not drunk and I am more the private reserved type. I choose 1 chica she jumps on my lap the girl to my left and right stay and only a few leave. So now or now they insist on a BJ. Now they have been see-grabbing for some time, as I try to pack it back in, but after drink they say. Oh now we can

Blow you, mama says its ok, I made sure to say what is that going to run. And they say all 3 will split 2k. Before I can say no, big titty girl on right starts bobbing, at that point. I say fuck it. Then girl left who is cuter and less chub throws a jimmy hat on and says cum in there. I tried to make it happen and then the plastic starting screwing w- the sensation. Girls were trading off looking a bit pissed and over worked- guess guys just pop quick not me. Then they start with hand and right when I am about to finish mama comes by and starts in with me about more drinks. Cock in the air I try to

Ignore old mom and she isn't leaving. Talk about a boner kill. Mom looking at you as 2 girls stroke you. So at that point I say no thank you. Iam done. Girls didn't mind. Seemed abit concerned and said they want to just stop by my room at 2 or 3am. No thank you. I pay 2 k to girls and 500 to bar for a beer and a soda. Eh feel like I got dicked. If your like me and hate condom BJ, s run from the BJ scam. Anyhow not too mad you live and learn should have made it clear in advance.

SportMongr

07-04-13, 19:45

WestCoast1

07-09-13, 00:56

Cbea20

07-10-13, 03:12

When they charge you p160 for a coke, they are charging for a mixed drink, such as "rum-coke, hold the rum." Not all bars will do this, and none with "mineral water."

Went into HH recently about 10:30pm. Had a date with me. Ordered a San Mig for me and my girl wanted a coke. San Mig p100, coke p160 (WTF).

Docwiltro

07-11-13, 10:06

This is a new bar (at least for me) and is located on P Burgos up from Rogues on the same side. It is just about opposite Bottoms where I went before Plan B opened (at 9pm but closes at 5am)

Unlike Bottoms which I like but was far too noisy and I could not hear a word anyone from the group said, Plan B was noisy but the music as at a level where you hear the girls etc. Nice line up and I found a few lesbian / bisexuals as well as a very cute one who had been there 2 months.

Barfine is 2500 pesos and then you pay the girl as bar keeps all. Girls come an go, no penalty for no show and the lively mamsan is always friendly.

And no girls swarm on you asking for lady drinks (200 for 'Baileys' 300-400 for tequila) so there is no pressure to buy.Plan B is what remains (in a different location) from the old Flamingo Club which was on the corner of Makati Ave. And P. Burgos. Along with the interior decorations and Flamingo neon heart, mommies Emmie and Vanessa are there with many of the former Flamingo girls. Plan B is not what the Flamingo once was, but as pointed out, it is still pretty good. The bottom line is that there is usually no bola and you get what you bargained for.

KiJang

07-12-13, 13:08

Hi Lopkx,

I have not stayed specifically in One Rockwell, but I have stayed in the other towers in the Power Plant\Rockwell complex. I must say I love staying at the Rockwell complex. Power plant Mall is just across the street. P Burgos area is just down the street. Greenbelt is a short cab ride. I could definitely retire there.

There are several towers in the Power plant complex, each named after a different Filipino painter, such as Joya, Edades, and Manansala. I understand that One Rockwell is the newest and premiere property in the complex, although they have some newer, fancier ones currently under construction. I could definitely recommend a few weeks in One Rockwell.Good to hear. I have booked at Joya Lofts for part of my upcoming trip. Booked it with no history or previous references on the ISG hotels thread. The price was too good to pass on Booking. Com. Approx PHP 24, 000 all inclusive for 4 nights for a Studio condotel. The price on the hotel website was a bit lower, but on reading the fineprint I saw that there was no breakfast included. Will post a review next month on the Manila hotels thread.

Wicked Roger

07-12-13, 14:59

Plan B is what remains (in a different location) from the old Flamingo Club which was on the corner of Makati Ave. And P. Burgos. he bottom line is that there is usually no bola and you get what you bargained for.Was chatting about the old Flamingo few weeks ago We were talking about when Burgos was a busy place and you went into Flamingo and could not find a seat. Now plenty and no punters. Now called Moulin Rouge and very quiet.

FreebieFan

07-14-13, 03:34

Plan B is what remains (in a different location) from the old Flamingo Club which was on the corner of Makati Ave. And P. Burgos. Along with the interior decorations and Flamingo neon heart, mommies Emmie and Vanessa are there with many of the former Flamingo girls. Plan B is not what the Flamingo once was, but as pointed out, it is still pretty good. The bottom line is that there is usually no bola and you get what you bargained for.And it had 3 name and layout changes since I first went in there. 1995

Cool Traveler

08-08-13, 23:12

I agree. Sometime you get caught because you didn't think through everything. I had gotten into Manila, and met my regular 2 days later. I told her, I had arrived just that morning. She spied the luggage tag. You know the one with the barcode, airport and arrival date. It showed a date of 2 days earlier. Sometimes, you got to build a mental checklist when you are playing here. Tear that luggage tag, and throw it away.

CT

Great descriptive narrative H.

This is the fun part of mongering, especially when you try to cover all bases and you overlook some small detail like the KY tube.

Luckily for us the girls are quite accepting of the tales we spin, and they never question that we might be full of bola bola.

Hutsori

08-09-13, 04:46

I agree. Sometime you get caught because you didn't think through everything. I had gotten into Manila, and met my regular 2 days later. I told her, I had arrived just that morning. She spied the luggage tag. You know the one with the barcode, airport and arrival date. It showed a date of 2 days earlier. Sometimes, you got to build a mental checklist when you are playing here. Tear that luggage tag, and throw it away.

CTVery good point. I'm a fan of the getting-caught genre. Most recently I thoroughly sanitized my place after the departure of one and waited for the next, a girl I've met often, who, though very cool, I still don't like to be in her face. She arrives, strips, and starts blowing me on the sofa. And there it is... a 10" long black hair stuck on my cock. She stops, looks at me, rolls her eyes, pulls the hair off, and orders: "Baby, go take a shower. I don't like the taste of pussy." Novice taste buds. It was ass.

X Man

08-09-13, 14:04

Great punchline. You are a very bad man.

Very good point. I'm a fan of the getting-caught genre. Most recently I thoroughly sanitized my place after the departure of one and waited for the next, a girl I've met often, who, though very cool, I still don't like to be in her face. She arrives, strips, and starts blowing me on the sofa. And there it is. a 10" long black hair stuck on my cock. She stops, looks at me, rolls her eyes, pulls the hair off, and orders: "Baby, go take a shower. I don't like the taste of pussy." Novice taste buds. It was ass.

X Man

08-09-13, 14:20

No offense Cool Trav, but your mistake was more than a "didn't think through everything". It was more "didn't think at all". LOL. And if you are a regular coming to the Philippines, you have another guantlet. The gal remembers when you were in country and at the same time next year she calls you on those days she suspects you will arrive. I had a cebu gal catch me like that, and she still fkd me, but it wasnt the GFE I had the previous time. Last I heard from her she was complaining about her american husband, so good thing I avoided her little psy trap.

I agree. Sometime you get caught because you didn't think through everything. I had gotten into Manila, and met my regular 2 days later. I told her, I had arrived just that morning. She spied the luggage tag. You know the one with the barcode, airport and arrival date. It showed a date of 2 days earlier. Sometimes, you got to build a mental checklist when you are playing here. Tear that luggage tag, and throw it away.

CT

Hutsori

08-30-13, 07:10

Cool Traveler

08-30-13, 19:12

A friend recently decided to monetize her hobby, so I introduced her to MBC and Havana. On the second night she returned on her own to Havana, grabbed a table, and was soon joined a few working girls wondering who the newbie is. When Havana closed they took her to Cafe' Cubana at the Royal Bellagio Hotel in Burgos St. This place has become the after-bar for Havana girls still on the prowl - like Bangkok's Thermae of days long ago. I reckon if someone is looking for action in the wee hours and isn't inclined to taxi to MBC Cafe' Cubana may be worth your while.Huts,

When I stayed at St. Giles or at City Garden near Burgos, this place is right behind. The downstairs is a bar, and upstairs is a hotel. Beer is cheap. And I loved sitting here and watch the shenanigans on the street. I did pay a visit to the rooms to check it out. They look very decent and it is cheap.

X Man

08-31-13, 15:08

I don't know if it is a chain or a coincidence, but there is a new bar called Cubano in Cebu right off the Mango strip. They had an open air setup with a live band as well as a bar inside. The band was good and the seats were full, but inside it was quiet and my appearance didn't seem to impress any of the bartenders or waitresses. So I left.

I'm on the Makati thread, so if anyone has anything to add or any questions, please post on the Cebu thread. X.

A friend recently decided to monetize her hobby, so I introduced her to MBC and Havana. On the second night she returned on her own to Havana, grabbed a table, and was soon joined a few working girls wondering who the newbie is. When Havana closed they took her to Cafe' Cubana at the Royal Bellagio Hotel in Burgos St. This place has become the after-bar for Havana girls still on the prowl - like Bangkok's Thermae of days long ago. I reckon if someone is looking for action in the wee hours and isn't inclined to taxi to MBC Cafe' Cubana may be worth your while.

Man123

08-31-13, 16:55

I had tried this on call massage service company which also offers sex service.

Their girls are really amazing, when I dial their number for massage, the telephone operator was very patient to explain me everything about their services.

They had this what they called body to body massage, sensual with lingam, and also they have the full service package.

The company name was Tickle Spa.

You must try this company. Try to search them.

https://www.facebook.com/groups/fhm.ph/

https://www.facebook.com/tickle.spa.philippines

OnePackGuy

08-31-13, 20:06

Man123

09-01-13, 07:32

Any details? These guys heavily post on sunlit already.They offer escort service and companionship or call their hotline 63 906 426 6664.

Simian

09-08-13, 15:40

Very good point. I'm a fan of the getting-caught genre. Most recently I thoroughly sanitized my place after the departure of one and waited for the next, a girl I've met often, who, though very cool, I still don't like to be in her face. She arrives, strips, and starts blowing me on the sofa. And there it is. a 10" long black hair stuck on my cock. She stops, looks at me, rolls her eyes, pulls the hair off, and orders: "Baby, go take a shower. I don't like the taste of pussy." Novice taste buds. It was ass.Sounds like you were in danger of have two girls each with a hair up their ass!

Tony6969

09-09-13, 11:46

Hi,

I'm going to be visiting for work in a few months, and my boss is putting us up in Muntinlupa. Any chance of getting some action out there? I'd really like to try something adventurous if possible, since it's a rare chance to get away from the wife!

Lakeside

09-10-13, 16:45

Last weekend there was a good selection of freelancers in Greenbelt3 in Makati available. When I got out of the taxi at the Greenbelt3 taxi stop several girls welcomed me with darling and honey! Some were really pretty ones and the freelancer selection around Starbucks and especially Havana Cafe was quite alluring. Had a SYT drom DIA waiting for me and had to miss out on the freelancer action this time.

Econo Tech

09-11-13, 02:31

Micky Mouse

09-12-13, 05:29

WestCoast1

09-12-13, 06:06

I am in Manila Otis area for few days. This is my first mongering scene in Manila. Have done in Davao.

Need advice / help of experienced mongers in this area.

Appreciate it,

As always happy and safe mongering.

MMPlease don't make identical posts on different threads. Once in the Manila thread was enough.

Hutsori

09-12-13, 08:19

And I hope you can fish out the boys from the girls there too.Easy peasy. The ladyboys the ones saying "Hi, darling," and "Hello, honey," upon your exit of the taxi and as you walk to Havana.

Shartz6996

09-16-13, 07:36

In Makati first time and only for this week.

I am an guy of Indian origin.

Any tips from fellow mongerers? Independents?

I am not that good at handling the "Crowd" in Burgos street.

Shane

X Man

09-17-13, 13:25

Indian origin, but culturally what? Does "the crowd" mean the street noise or inside the bars?

Give people more info and you'll likely get better answers. Good luck. X.

In Makati first time and only for this week.

I am an guy of Indian origin.

Any tips from fellow mongerers? Independents?

I am not that good at handling the "Crowd" in Burgos street.

Shane

Hutsori

09-17-13, 23:48

In Makati first time and only for this week.

I am an guy of Indian origin.

Any tips from fellow mongerers? Independents?

I am not that good at handling the "Crowd" in Burgos street.

ShaneBuffalo or holy cow?

I suspect buffalo since an urban bloke from the subcontinent spends much of his life in crowds and noise. Manila is tranquil in contrast.

Read the threads. If you can't handle a crowd stay away from MBC and Havana. Maybe Amazonia on any night or Gpoint on a week night will be to your liking. If you want FL's in Burgos street check out Cafe Cubana at Bellagio Hotel.

Cool Traveler

09-18-13, 23:49

In Makati first time and only for this week.

I am an guy of Indian origin.

Any tips from fellow mongerers? Independents?

I am not that good at handling the "Crowd" in Burgos street.

ShaneShane,

Really doesn't matter where you are from. Phillipines is one of the friendliest places on the planet. And does not matter whether it is crowded or not. You still have to talk to the girls or a girl. Crowded place is better, because you are among a whole bunch of people looking for the same thing.

For you, I suggest Havana on Greenbelt 3.

Whether there are crowd or no crowd, if you are nervous, this is going to be very hard for you. Not sure where in Makati you are. But don't worry about the crowd. Go to Havana. Lost of people, and lots of women / girls. Especially at this time. I was just there last week, and back in the States now. One of the girls who I knew from previous visits told me, that there are more girls than ever before. And she is right.

Just sit there, have a few beers (which should calm your nerves) , and invite someone over, or just smile and they will come and sit with you. Buy them / her a drink and no more. Later in the night you go there, better off you are. If it is really crowded, go stand at the bar inside. Girls will come and stand next to you. All you have to say is "How are you?"

If you are shy, it will be tough, and these girls are going to chew you up and spit you out.

Be nice to the girls, and be generous (and not too generous!). Don't be stingy! Discuss ahead of time what you expect, and ask how much.

Cool Traveler

09-18-13, 23:52

Tally Wacker

09-21-13, 05:53

I thought this was amusing and I'm sure the landscape is familiar to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI9GwtikgI4

WestCoast1

09-21-13, 06:53

I thought this was amusing and I'm sure the landscape is familiar to many.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kI9GwtikgI4CaliPro: Paying attention? Learn a lesson? Teach a lesson?

Ilasan2

09-24-13, 17:50

Red Kilt

09-25-13, 02:15

You can ask a taxicab driver to which hangout is the best, actually Filipino cab drivers almost all of them are generous.Of course they are generous because they receive a kickback from whichever place they take you. Watch them come in either with you or just behind you so they can receive their commission.

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes. They will either grunt "don't know" or they will not know from first-hand experience and so will take you anywhere they can get a commission.

Econo Tech

09-25-13, 02:48

Of course they are generous because they receive a kickback from whichever place they take you. Watch them come in either with you or just behind you so they can receive their commission.

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes. They will either grunt "don't know" or they will not know from first-hand experience and so will take you anywhere they can get a commission.And commissions, as some of my smart friends found out. Can range from 7,000 peso (for a 2000 peso barfine if you went direct) and another case. Walked in, saw nothing interesting, walked out after paying 3,900 cover charge (where no cover applies in reality.) and another, who paid 15,000 peso for a dorm girl, (who would have been given not more than 1000 peso).

IM Punter

09-25-13, 19:35

Don't ask a cab driver who has a crucifix or rosary beads hanging from the rear-vision mirror and the dashboard covered with Sto Nino statuettes.Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.

Red Kilt

09-26-13, 02:24

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.OK just go ahead then and ask every taxi driver, but it is a risky way to go when you don't know where they are taking you.

Personally I would never rely on a taxi driver to suggest where I should go. I would rather tell him where I wish to go.

Member #4698

09-26-13, 03:25

Personally I would never rely on a taxi driver to suggest where I should go. I would rather tell him where I wish to go.Absolutely, but one time I had this friendly, talkative taxi driver for a short ride from the New World to Burgos Street (Rogues Bar). For sure, he was trying to drum up some business for the night and possibly for some future hire. So knowing where I was going, he asked if I had ever been to La La Land. He said it was a hot club. I told him no, I had never been there, but I had been to AF1. He told me La La Land was better and less expensive than AF! I listened to what he had to say. The place sounded ok, but I was definitely not going to change my plans based on a Manila taxi guy's suggestion. He dropped me off at Rogues and gave me his card. I gave him a small tip and never saw him again. Looking back, I think he was an OK sort of chap. I guess because of the name, La La Land, I remembered the club in the back of my mind.

About 6 months later, I was back in Manila and a fellow punter told me about this bar with hi quality girls on Roxas Blvd north of Airport Road called La La Land and it all came back to me. So I went there and it was good. I liked the ambiance, the girls, and I ended up barfining a sexy spinner. Moral of the story: sometimes taxi drivers know something and are not all full of crap. It is their town after all. But I still would never change my bar plans based on an off the cuff tip from a taxi driver, especially one I do not know. This is Manila and "we're not in Kansas anymore".

Ken Shamrod

10-04-13, 10:52

Ken Shamrod

10-04-13, 12:13

Sorry to keep asking questions. When I was there last I remember there was a nice massage parlor with a fishbowl up the hill and off a couple streets from P burgos. I rtff and I'm pretty sure someone said all fishbowls are gone? Is that true? Was there a new law that past? Looks like I might be spending more time in Angeles.

Brown Rail

10-05-13, 03:33

I'm going back to Makati this month. I haven't been back in a few years. I remember going to tickles and spending a lot of money$500usd. My friends and I had a blast with 4 hot girls. They were letting us suck on there tits and grab there asses. I remember the mama would buy us drinks and then we would buy her drinks. It was getting out of hand. I'm usually pretty frugal and watch out for rip offs but I have to admit it was a lot of fun getting wasted with the girls and the mama. She had a hot girl with big tits for me to take home. I guess my point is how much do you tip the girls that sit with you for an hour while you fondle them? I saw an earlier post that said 50 pesos? I just wouldn't feel right paying them so little. What would you guys suggest that is fair? How much is it party with four girls at the bar for about an hour? Drinking shots and grabbing ass. For some reason I thought this was the funniest part of going out. I just don't want to ever get ripped off like that. I get there technique, bring some really hot girls, get your the I'll try and keep a mental calculator going in the back of my head and refuse any extra women.Hey Ken, yes, been there, done that too. I can share my own experience.

In my early visits, years ago, we would probably spend P2,000-4,000 per bar. My friends and I would hit 3 or 4 bars, spend maybe P10-15,000 on the evening. Coming from abroad and earning well spending $2-300 for a wild time seemed a bargain. $500 is certainly possible. But no way you could have this much fun at home, at any price.

I have since smartened up, learned the game but, more importantly, what I really enjoy in these bars. My experience is that the big determinant of the total damage is the number of drinks you buy, and their cost, not so much the tips. The tips are pretty constant. The best way to keep the costs down then is to buy drinks only for one girl, pace it reasonably and do it during happy hour.

These things can drive the costs up:

1) Allowing other girls to join. They will all come and stay if they think you are a willing payer. The girls make most of their money from selling drinks, so of course they have incentive. I look at guys who are surrounded by 5 girls, each with p300 drinks, and wonder what they are thinking. Watch out for the girls looking for 'lucky drink' or 'first drink of the day'.

2) Allowing your girl to order drinks too quickly. One should last at least 15 minutes.

3) Allowing mama to get into the mix. She gives you a free one, you buy her girls, and her, another round. Who gets the deal here? Even ignoring the low actually costs to her, yours is the cheap one. In exchange you are buying a round of expensive drinks. And what is the point of buying her a drink? Luck? Good manners? It is her place, good manners dictates that she pick up the tab, not trick you into spending that much more. Don't fall for this.

4) Going to VIP or 'upstairs' often involves a minimum number of drinks. This is likely to cost you P4-5, 000, the same as taking the girl out. Most likely it will be the same experience as in the main bar, but a bit more privacy. Still, the waitress will interrupt you every 5 minutes, so might as well be in the bar.

5) Going with groups of friends who don't know the game. They will be suckers for all the scams and then you will split the bill at the end. Be sure to inform them about the scams and agree to play by our rules.

Things that keep the costs down:

1) Happy hour. Drinks, yours and hers, are half price. Be careful that the happy hour light outside is lit. Some of the bars have different times. Even the doorman lie. Recently, at about 330pm, I asked a doorman if it was happy hour and he assured me it was. Then when the bill came, it was not. I complained that the doorman had assured me that it was. The waitress answered, as if he was not their responsibility, he is new. But happy hour began at 4, so I just declined to buy any drinks. Very quickly the agreed that all drinks would be happy hour price. Anyway, they have you sign for each round of drinks, so you see the cost before it get out of hand. Not also that bar fines are also halved during happy hour. And there are nearby short-time rooms.

2) Only buy drinks for 'your girl'. For the massage girl, the cover girl, her friends, just slip them a tip. Tell them pang merienda. P50 or P100 will make them happy. You can ask them to go or to continue to massage, cover, let you play with their breasts. But pressure for drinks will stop.

For 'your girl', be friendly, charming, complementary, and a bit generous. For the bar management, you will need to keep her drinks flowing. Maybe 2-5 drinks should do the job; at happy hour P350-900. One girl who I have become friendly with only lets me buy her one drink, to satisfy the bar.

You will be able to cuddle, kiss, play with her breasts and probably pussy – make sure your hands are clean. She may do lap dance. In many bars she will open your pants and play with your dick. Sometimes inside your pants if they are lose, sometimes she will take it out. There is something cool about standing at the bar joking with the girl while she gently strokes your hard on. I think it is how nature intended. And it is just dark enough that the others around you are not quite sure. Sometimes the other girls will come over and ask if they can touch 'yours'. You can let them satisfy their curiosity, and even give them a feel in exchange, but if you let them stay you got to pay. If you are at the bar or standing at a table, the girls will try to get you to go to a darker table. It is ok. Just keep it to your girl, not letting a swarm join. Warn her if you will cum and she will use a tissue to catch it.

Some girls are really good at stoking. They will keep you on the edge for a long time, and buying them drinks all the while. And, hey, it is worth it. Others are awkward and just don't have the coordination or change to 'business mode'. If it is not feeling good for you, just thank her and put your dick back.

You might even get a blow job in the bar. Usually I am a bit paranoid about an uncovered BJ from these girls. But they do get regular checkups – for what they are worth. And sometimes the little head, in the presence of alcohol, gets the better of me. It is a funny feeling to be cuming in a girls mouth in a crowded bar and with all these people around. An adventure!

A great side benefit of happy hour girls is that they get off at 11pm. Assuming you follow the plan, they will give you their number and ask if you can meet when they are off. The rest is up to you. So that girl that would have cost you P3, 500-4000 plus P1,000-1,500 tip, is now yours for a tip of P1,500-2,000.

I usually tip my girl P300 for just playing maybe half hour to hour. If I cum, P500. The other day my 'friend' gave me an amazing BJ, which I had not allowed before. She felt amazing. I gave her P1, 000. They always seem happy at these levels, and come back.

Be sure to tip the waitress. P20-50 will make her happy.

Brown Rail

10-05-13, 13:35

Absolutely, but one time I had this friendly, talkative taxi driver for a short ride from the New World to Burgos Street (Rogues Bar). For sure, he was trying to drum up some business for the night and possibly for some future hire. So knowing where I was going, he asked if I had ever been to La La Land. He said it was a hot club. I told him no, I had never been there, but I had been to AF1. He told me La La Land was better and less expensive than AF! I listened to what he had to say. The place sounded ok, but I was definitely not going to change my plans based on a Manila taxi guy's suggestion. He dropped me off at Rogues and gave me his card. I gave him a small tip and never saw him again. Looking back, I think he was an OK sort of chap. I guess because of the name, La La Land, I remembered the club in the back of my mind.

About 6 months later, I was back in Manila and a fellow punter told me about this bar with hi quality girls on Roxas Blvd north of Airport Road called La La Land and it all came back to me. So I went there and it was good. I liked the ambiance, the girls, and I ended up barfining a sexy spinner. Moral of the story: sometimes taxi drivers know something and are not all full of crap. It is their town after all. But I still would never change my bar plans based on an off the cuff tip from a taxi driver, especially one I do not know. This is Manila and "we're not in Kansas anymore".I think I wrote about this a few years ago. My experience is that if a taxi driver suggests somewhere, he will be getting a commission. That is not to say that his suggestion won't be good, it may or may not be. But is recommendation is driven by his kickback, not your well being.

Further, I had the experience of going back to the same Roxas Blvd bar twice: once I took a taxi and once I went with Pinoy friends. The first time, with the taxi, as I was leaving I found the driver still waiting for me at the door. He knew where his bread was buttered. He then took me to a few other bars. For me it all seemed ok. Until.

The second time with my local friends, about six months later, no cover and the costs seemed about a third. When I asked my friends they explained that the place has a higher tariff when the taxi brings you as the bar pays him. It may also be higher for foreigners.

I find that if I take a taxi to one of these places there may be a cover, but if I get out a bit away from the bar, then wait for the taxi to dive away, there seldom is.

Ken Shamrod

10-09-13, 12:42

Hey Ken, yes, been there, done that too. I can share my own experience.

In my early visits, years ago, we would probably spend P2, 000-4, 000 per bar. My friends and I would hit 3 or 4 bars, spend maybe P10-15, 000 on the evening. Coming from abroad and earning well spending $2-300 for a wild time seemed a bargain. $500 is certainly possible. But no way you could have this much fun at home, at any price.

I have since smartened up, learned the game but, more importantly, what I really enjoy in these bars. My experience is that the big determinant of the total damage is the number of drinks you buy, and their cost, not so much the tips. The tips are pretty constant. The best way to keep the costs down then is to buy drinks only for one girl, pace it reasonably and do it during happy hour.

These things can drive the costs up:

1) Allowing other girls to join. They will all come and stay if they think you are a willing payer. The girls make most of their money from selling drinks, so of course they have incentive. I look at guys who are surrounded by 5 girls, each with p300 drinks, and wonder what they are thinking. Watch out for the girls looking for 'lucky drink' or 'first drink of the day'.

2) Allowing your girl to order drinks too quickly. One should last at least 15 minutes.

3) Allowing mama to get into the mix. She gives you a free one, you buy her girls, and her, another round. Who gets the deal here? Even ignoring the low actually costs to her, yours is the cheap one. In exchange you are buying a round of expensive drinks. And what is the point of buying her a drink? Luck? Good manners? It is her place, good manners dictates that she pick up the tab, not trick you into spending that much more. Don't fall for this.

4) Going to VIP or 'upstairs' often involves a minimum number of drinks. This is likely to cost you P4-5, 000, the same as taking the girl out. Most likely it will be the same experience as in the main bar, but a bit more privacy...I will definitely use this info. Great job. I just need to stay strong and say no to the other girls and stick to the game plan. Thank you for the in depth report.

LuvAsianTang

10-09-13, 17:37

Ok, I'm curious. What does the crucifix or beads or statues signify that means we shouldn't ask them for suggestions? I know it means they are religious and shouldn't participate in the mongering business, but then so were a couple of the girls I met last time I was here. One was wearing a crucifix necklace, the other had something dangling from her purse.They are all catholic thats why you get to bareback them if you are so inclined. The pope says its ok. Personally I use protection usually because of the rampant clamydia and gonherea in the phils. I'm not real concerned about hiv as it is very hard to get from regular sex unless you have a broken membrane on your dick.

LuvAsianTang.

Arepas

10-11-13, 01:48

Blu8096

10-12-13, 19:53

Hutsori

10-13-13, 07:11

Nightclub question?

I of course have been to Havana and the small hangouts at Greenbelt. I have also been to the nightclub across the street- It starts with a P but can't remember the name.

Are there some good nightclubs in Makati I should check out?Starts with a P... that's the Palladium.

There's a place on Makati Ave named Time. It's a few streets from the corner of Makati Ave and Burgos. Across the street from A Venue.

I've posted this link before; it's a good list of the top spots throughout metro Manila: http://manilaclubbing.com/

Deep Groove

10-13-13, 07:44

Okay, I finally went to Greenbelt the last couple nights to check out Havana's and Spicy Fingers. Friday night was a wash. Literally. It was raining all night. I got there after 11 and both Havana's and Spicy Fingers were way crowded, people were all huddled up under the umbrellas. I returned last night at around 8:30. I got a table at Havana's outside near the entrance. Lots of hotties! There were quite a a lot of single men by themselves or with wingmen on the prowl also. LOL. Some older geezers were with some slammin' younger sexy women. Anyway. I'm not sure how to pick up here. I've been to the DR a couple times. The chicas there aggressively let you know they're available! Ha ha! I really didn't notice any girls checking me out or giving me signals. I stuck around for a couple hours- till 11:00. Then I walked over to Spicy Fingers, but there didn't seem to be anything going on there. There were couples, but I didn't see any single girls or groups of girls. Went back toward Havana and had a drink at the Starbucks there. A girl gave me some strong interest signals. I went over and after shaking "her" hand just knew she was a lady-boy. Ha ha! I left after that. How's the game played at Greenbelt? Should I have remained at Havana's? I noticed girls would leave their table and go in to dance. Should I mingle with them that way? From the reports from this site and others, pick-ups from Greenbelt sound easy. What did I do wrong?

Thanks!

Deep

Blu8096

10-14-13, 06:19

Starts with a P. That's the Palladium.

There's a place on Makati Ave named Time. It's a few streets from the corner of Makati Ave and Burgos. Across the street from A Venue.

I've posted this link before; it's a good list of the top spots throughout metro Manila:

http://manilaclubbing.com/You the Man! Thank you for the advice.

One more question:

In Makati (I think Makati) I went to a bar. It is one the third floor or so. It has one floor that is pretty big, dance floor dj both. The floor above it is open to look down, has couches and stuff, the floor above that is mostly open air, has a bar and nice seating around the edge of the building- you are open to the air and can see the building around you. Sound familiar to anyone? If it does can you remember the name?

Blu8096

10-14-13, 06:25

MangoDB

10-14-13, 06:49

Hutsori

10-14-13, 06:57

Very simple man, just walk up and open your mouth. Say hello, Hi, Howdy, what's up or something. Its just like any place you just approach and be yourself and be friendly. The great part is they are there to say yes and are mostly all working girls.

I don't recommend walking up and saying "excuse me, can I fuck you in the Ass for money?". But you never know it may work.

All kidding aside just be your self and be friendly. Make eye contact smile, then it's all up to you to just say hello.One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place. Keep these in mind when trying to discern those working from those who aren't:

1) The girl is nursing her drink for hours.

2) The girl is constantly texting on her mobile. When she is isn't staring at her mobile she's scoping the crowd. Since she'll be with a group you'll see the whole table surveying the crowd.

3) The surest sign is the hard stare. Regular girls tend to be much more conservative and generally don't initiate eye contact, and when they do they are much more coy about it. Working girls will lock on to your eyes and won't break their stare.

4) Some girls, often the less attractive ones, are very assertive; inside the bar I've had standing girls grab my hand and wrap it around their waist. Marking her terrortory I surmise. Don't hesitate breaking off from those you're not interested in because she'll monopolize your time.

Hutsori

10-14-13, 07:07

One more question:

In Makati (I think Makati) I went to a bar. It is one the third floor or so. It has one floor that is pretty big, dance floor dj both. The floor above it is open to look down, has couches and stuff, the floor above that is mostly open air, has a bar and nice seating around the edge of the building- you are open to the air and can see the building around you. Sound familiar to anyone? If it does can you remember the name?"It is one the third floor or so." You mean the club is three floors? Or the club's entrance is on the third floor? Time is three floors, the entrance is at the ground floor, and the third is open air.

Red Kilt

10-14-13, 11:14

One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place.Nice set of tips for newbies Huts and especially the one that I quoted above.

There are several groups of women that go to Havana purely for the outdoor ambience or to sit inside in the aircon and listen to the band and watch the charades going on around them.

They do not like being pestered or propositioned by boors who think that all filipinas will salivate over their advances.

I saw a well-dressed guy sent packing by a table of 4 smart - looking filipinas one evening.
Not only did they curse him out of the place but they told security not to allow him back in while they were there.

Deep Groove

10-14-13, 12:40

Huts, word! Outstanding advice. Thanks! I'll be back there next weekend and update you all.

One needs to be a bit cautious and tactful because non-working girls frequent the place. Keep these in mind when trying to discern those working from those who aren't:

1) The girl is nursing her drink for hours.

2) The girl is constantly texting on her mobile. When she is isn't staring at her mobile she's scoping the crowd. Since she'll be with a group you'll see the whole table surveying the crowd.

3) The surest sign is the hard stare. Regular girls tend to be much more conservative and generally don't initiate eye contact, and when they do they are much more coy about it. Working girls will lock on to your eyes and won't break their stare.

4) Some girls, often the less attractive ones, are very assertive; inside the bar I've had standing girls grab my hand and wrap it around their waist. Marking her terrortory I surmise. Don't hesitate breaking off from those you're not interested in because she'll monopolize your time.

Key Master

10-14-13, 21:56

Nice set of tips for newbies Huts and especially the one that I quoted above.

There are several groups of women that go to Havana purely for the outdoor ambience or to sit inside in the aircon and listen to the band and watch the charades going on around them.

They do not like being pestered or propositioned by boors who think that all filipinas will salivate over their advances.

I saw a well-dressed guy sent packing by a table of 4 smart. Looking filipinas one evening.

Not only did they curse him out of the place but they told security not to allow him back in while they were there.There are women who go there for fun and are not working working. They have real jobs and some are well off financially. Some are looking to mess around though. I've been there. I'm not aggressive in any way when I am there, and they basically in their own ways picked me up. Usually they use their friends to assist in some way. I didn't go there expecting that. Most of my experiences though have been with these women there and they objected to me giving them money when they went home. I've been there plenty of times and have never seen these women again there except one.

But going back to the original question about approaching and stuff, I see plenty of guys just kind of go by tables and start talking or just offering a toast from close by or from a distance. I'm a bit shy in doing that. I have a tendency to hang around the entrance outside or inside. I prefer inside the bar area and just hang there and walk around. It's easier for me to interact that way. I usually wait for some type of invitation if I am interested before making a move. But for the most part, the majority of the women there are in play, but I'd say on Fridays and Saturdays, you start getting more of a mix on other people just going there for fun.

Cerberus666

10-16-13, 09:31

WestCoast1

10-16-13, 17:16

SNIP A bit of sticker shock.

I begged off as just looking, spent another beer of time there and then departed. Continued up the street and decided to get more money. That was when I realized I had removed my ATM card instead of my credit card from my wallet. I went into a place called High Heels. Same treatment but as there were more customers, less birds flocked my way. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer, girls asked who I was going to take home, bar fine the same, girl prices the same. In the end I settled for four of the girls taking turns blowing me in a corner (while mamasan watched, creepy!) for 1. 5K pesos.

Next time I head back I'll try to bargain that fine down. I was there on a Friday or Saturday and the street was crazy busy. Is it less so during the week? I can't see paying $200 in Manila. Or are my expectations too low?

And I know, you get what you pay for. In the not so recent past I took two freelancers out of MBC for 2. 5K each. If I can get two for 5K. 8K seems steep for one.

What do the more experienced hands think?

Thanks,

C666RTTF. Makati girls go for more money, especially Burgos. Poor man's heaven is Malate / MBC.

Hutsori

10-17-13, 04:37

Next time I head back I'll try to bargain that fine down.Let us know how well you get on with that. :P

I was there on a Friday or Saturday and the street was crazy busy. Is it less so during the week?Thursday thru Saturday are the big nights, and when there is weekend rugby or football tournament in town it's even more so. Week nights are less crowded, but when the 7th Fleet is in town...

I can't see paying $200 in Manila. Or are my expectations too low?It is crazy, isn't it? But at 2 bills you're getting off cheap; plenty of blokes seem more than willing to blow through $400-$500+ on food, drinks, barfine, a girl, and her tip. And her taxi.

And I know, you get what you pay for.You know that, huh? Often times you don't get what you pay for. If you're actually getting what you pay for you could be doing better than most. If you work the dating sites you may very well get what you don't pay for.

In the not so recent past I took two freelancers out of MBC for 2.5K each. If I can get two for 5K. 8K seems steep for one.If you've read the FRs you'll rarely see ones posted for Burgos, and when one is posted it's more often than not one much like yours, i.e. what's up with being chiseled?

You may want to check out Havana. More expensive than MBC, less expensive than Burgos, and no barfine.

Cerberus666

10-17-13, 08:25

Hit Burgos last night (before your posts showed up on the board) and went to Rogues, which had been recommended by a friend as having the lowest bar fines on the street.

Long and short, paid fines for two, quoted a price of 3K for each for the night. Late breakfast or lunch the following day was discussed. Explicit conversation about spending the night and food in the morning with both girls. Girl #1 social, good english, was the saleswoman in the bar. Her friend, not as good looking, less English, let girl #1 make the deal.

Went back to the hotel, had a bottle of wine, started messing with the girls and after a while first pop. Girls jump in the shower, dry off and start putting their clothes back on. I ask what is going on?

Girl #1 says she has to go meet her roommate who is locked out of the apartment and give her a key. She also said girl #2 had to get home and take care of her mother. Girl #2 just sort of looked at me with this "sorry" expression on her face.

I told them fine, if they wanted to leave price was 2K each and they are lucky I don't give them 1K and call hotel security and say they tried to steal from me. I gave them their money and they asked for cab fair. I said no. What about that change on your table? No. Can I have a cigarette or your lighter? No. Walked them to the elevator and out the front door. I lit a smoke as they walked down the driveway and she asked for cab fair one last time. I didn't even bother to answer. I did tell her if she wanted to leave at 2 or 3 she should have said so at the bar and this wouldn't be a deal, but since she lied to me I was in no mood for her shit.

And for all her talk in the bar she was a huge pain in the ass in the room. Complained I was choking her, kept telling me not to give her a hard time and just finish, kept running her hands all over my face and hair and got pissed when I told her to stop. Terrible blowjob, worse at stroking, very mercenary and obnoxious once we got started. She said her name was Aquabenito, Aqua for short. Pretty face, bad attitude, worse skill. Her friend was the quiet professional. She bent her head to the task and didn't complain about anything. But I wouldn't repeat with her either. I've got pictures but I don't know the protocol for posting.

Hutsori, you're absolutely right. If I had gotten what I paid for I would have been ahead on the deal.

Docwiltro

10-17-13, 11:46

So I was originally going to stay at the Shangrila but now I am staying at the Mandarin Oriental. Is this close to Burgos street?

Also, which bars has the hottest girls in Burgos street (I don't care about price).The Shangri La is close to P. Burgos, and the Mandarin Oriental is even closer; however, where I stay, Bel Air Soho Condominiums, is only a one minute walk from Burgos and costs a mere fraction (1, 500) of the price of those other upscale hotels. Also, the hottest chicks on P. Burgos are at Bottoms, and the best thing is that they'll meet you after hours.

Deep Groove

10-17-13, 11:49

This is why I've avoided Burgos Street. 4K bar fine just to get the trim out the door is ridiculous! Stupid! And then pay the girl on top of that! $200 for a smash? Where are we? Rio? Fuck no! And a 1.5K Burgos blow job isn't going to satisfy this horny fucker! My strategy in Makati is to bypass the bar fine scene entirely. I'll be back in Greenbelt this weekend and might check out some of the other clubs in the area. I'll let you all know how I do on the flip side.

About a month ago I was in Manila and went by Burgos for the first time. I wandered into a place about halfway up the first block on the right side, don't remember the name. Was attacked instantly as I fought my way to an empty table (almost all were) and the mama san came in for the kill. Buy drinks? Want girl? Felt like I was in Thailand.

I ordered a beer and ignored them until a few went away and I only had 5 or 6 chirping at me. Talked with them for a while, ignored the,"Which girl do you like?" questions while I talked to the girls. Finally asked mamasan was the bar fine was and she said 4K pesos! $100 just to get them out of the bar? The hot girls wanted 4K pesos, the hottest girl wanted 5K. A bit of sticker shock.

I begged off as just looking, spent another beer of time there and then departed. Continued up the street and decided to get more money. That was when I realized I had removed my ATM card instead of my credit card from my wallet. I went into a place called High Heels. Same treatment but as there were more customers, less birds flocked my way. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer, girls asked who I was going to take home, bar fine the same, girl prices the same. In the end I settled for four of the girls taking turns blowing me in a corner (while mamasan watched, creepy!) for 1. 5K pesos.

Next time I head back I'll try to bargain that fine down. I was there on a Friday or Saturday and the street was crazy busy. Is it less so during the week? I can't see paying $200 in Manila. Or are my expectations too low?

And I know, you get what you pay for. In the not so recent past I took two freelancers out of MBC for 2. 5K each. If I can get two for 5K. 8K seems steep for one.

What do the more experienced hands think?

Thanks,

C666

Hutsori

10-17-13, 17:45

Girls jump in the shower, dry off and start putting their clothes back on. I ask what is going on?

Girl #1 says she has to go meet her roommate who is locked out of the apartment and give her a key. She also said girl #2 had to get home and take care of her mother. Girl #2 just sort of looked at me with this "sorry" expression on her face.What a disheartening FR, but appreciated nonetheless. To me there is nothing worse than the bait and switch. You did the right thing by reducing their pay, and at 1 pop you could have cut it to p1000 for girl #1 and p1500 to girl #2.

I don't know the protocol either but I'm of the opinion that a non-nude unblurred photo of girl #1 ought to be posted so those here can avoid her.

Your cigarette as you walked down the driveway was the coup de grace. A flourishing way to end a bad event.

Ken Shamrod

10-18-13, 03:31

So this is what I got from rtff.

Its been awhile since I was in the phil. I'll be back next month. Its seems a lot has changed. Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong. I'm going to break everything down to the best of my knowledge. Please Please correct me if there is any bad info.

MBC

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqCYwNs-7tA

Location R. Salas Street, Ermita, Manila.

MBC is a freelancer place that has a wide variety of women. You can usually find a good bargain. The place is a little bit on the seedy side. Somewhat of a dive bar.

Prices range from 1,000 pesos to 2,500 pesos.

P burgos street

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7elZVjFas

Location P burgos street Makati.

Street full of go go bars much like you would see in Bangkok soi cowboy. These go go bars start opening there doors around 4:00. This is the happy hour time until 6:00. All drinks are half off. Bar fines are half off. During normal hours bar fines run from 3,000pesos-4,000pesos ($100) Happy hour bar fines run from 1, 500pesos-4,000pesos. Girls will ask for an extra tip on that which can be anywhere from 1,500 to 2,000 for short time and 3,000 to 5,000 long time. The women here tend to be better looking and more taken care of because of the prices they demand. I remember Tickles having the hottest women there but this was 2010. You can have a great time with out spending too much if you are just looking at ass grabbing and boob sucking. A very detailed report by brown rail was written here in the makati thread post 3339 http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati/page2

The only negatives I had which were very big is that the Mama san is always trying to run a fast one on you so you have to stay alert and the girls are so expensive. Honestly the korean massagge girls down the street from my house are going for the same price as these girls and are just as hot if not hotter.

Havana Cafe

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wSsEzOqiA

Location: Green belt.

Trendy cafe bar with live music. Looks clean with a good energy. Many freelance women. Looks are average to good looking. Short time 1, 500 to 3,000 and long time 3, 000 to 5,000 More of an upscale MBC or Fenwicks (for those who use to monger in Hong Kong)

Need help. Please correct.

Edsa entertainment complex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neMqYXVNrog

Location Pasay city.

This is like a go go mini shopping mall. This was my favorite place. You go inside the complex and there are 5 to 6 different bars each having there own theme. The bars are very spacious. The women I saw there seemed to be hotter and cheaper if I recall. I can't remember how much the barfines were but the tips were Short time 1,500 to 3,000 and long time 3,000 to 4,000. I felt that all the bars were very profesional and all had great customer service. The only thing it a 45min taxi drive from greenbelt area.

Question1.

Are there any short time hotels next to edsa? I haven't seen any on the forum. Actually I haven't seen anything recently reported on edsa.

Fishbowls.

Question 2.

Are they illegal now? I've been to a few 3 years ago but they looked closed.

Angeles city.

Question 3.

If you have only one night would Angeles city be worthing staying at?

Cerberus666

10-18-13, 06:13

Photo posted. Girl #1 is on the right in black, #2 in white and red. #2's name is Joanna. I'm sure it would be worth it if you got her alone and not with the other. I can't imagine how bad a night it would have been if I had only taken Aqua home as I originally planned.

What a disheartening FR, but appreciated nonetheless. To me there is nothing worse than the bait and switch. You did the right thing by reducing their pay, and at 1 pop you could have cut it to p1000 for girl #1 and p1500 to girl #2.

I don't know the protocol either but I'm of the opinion that a non-nude unblurred photo of girl #1 ought to be posted so those here can avoid her.

Your cigarette as you walked down the driveway was the coup de grace. A flourishing way to end a bad event.

Arepas

10-18-13, 06:58

About a month ago I was in Manila and went by Burgos for the first time. I wandered into a place about halfway up the first block on the right side, don't remember the name. Was attacked instantly as I fought my way to an empty table (almost all were) and the mama san came in for the kill. Buy drinks? Want girl? Felt like I was in Thailand.

I ordered a beer and ignored them until a few went away and I only had 5 or 6 chirping at me. Talked with them for a while, ignored the,"Which girl do you like?" questions while I talked to the girls. Finally asked mamasan was the bar fine was and she said 4K pesos! $100 just to get them out of the bar? The hot girls wanted 4K pesos, the hottest girl wanted 5K. A bit of sticker shock.

I begged off as just looking, spent another beer of time there and then departed. Continued up the street and decided to get more money. That was when I realized I had removed my ATM card instead of my credit card from my wallet. I went into a place called High Heels. Same treatment but as there were more customers, less birds flocked my way. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer, girls asked who I was going to take home, bar fine the same, girl prices the same. In the end I settled for four of the girls taking turns blowing me in a corner (while mamasan watched, creepy!) for 1. 5K pesos.

Next time I head back I'll try to bargain that fine down. I was there on a Friday or Saturday and the street was crazy busy. Is it less so during the week? I can't see paying $200 in Manila. Or are my expectations too low?

And I know, you get what you pay for. In the not so recent past I took two freelancers out of MBC for 2. 5K each. If I can get two for 5K. 8K seems steep for one.

What do the more experienced hands think?

Thanks,

C666I was just at bottoms and plan be and did not experience any of what you were saying. No pressure to buy any drinks for you or a girl. In fact in both clubs I had to find a waiter to buy the girl I was talking to a drink. I didn't barfine in any place since I got a girl's number in bottoms, and another girl from plan be to come to my hotel room after I told her my room number. The girl from plan b didn't even want money but I had to pull a Charlie Sheen and give 1500 php because she was talking to me as if I was her new boyfriend, and all though this would mean free sex I didn't want to stick with one girl on this trip. When I offered her the 1500php she got pissed because she thought we had something more then p4p. Anyway the barfine in both places was less then 2600 php in case you want to hit up those places. I have a detailed report on both places in the manila forum.

WestCoast1

10-18-13, 17:58

JustForFun21

10-18-13, 22:10

Hi,

Please check Manila forum for the updates on EDSA Entertainment complex. There are quite a few posts on this including mine. Cheers.

So this is what I got from rtff.

Its been awhile since I was in the phil. I'll be back next month. Its seems a lot has changed. Please correct me if I'm getting this wrong. I'm going to break everything down to the best of my knowledge. Please Please correct me if there is any bad info.

MBC.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QqCYwNs-7tA

Location R. Salas Street, Ermita, Manila.

MBC is a freelancer place that has a wide variety of women. You can usually find a good bargain. The place is a little bit on the seedy side. Somewhat of a dive bar.

Prices range from 1, 000 pesos to 2, 500 pesos.

P burgos street.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co7elZVjFas

Location P burgos street Makati.

Street full of go go bars much like you would see in Bangkok soi cowboy. These go go bars start opening there doors around 4:00. This is the happy hour time until 6:00. All drinks are half off. Bar fines are half off. During normal hours bar fines run from 3, 000pesos-4, 000pesos ($100) Happy hour bar fines run from 1, 500pesos-4, 000pesos. Girls will ask for an extra tip on that which can be anywhere from 1, 500 to 2, 000 for short time and 3, 000 to 5, 000 long time. The women here tend to be better looking and more taken care of because of the prices they demand. I remember Tickles having the hottest women there but this was 2010. You can have a great time with out spending too much if you are just looking at ass grabbing and boob sucking. A very detailed report by brown rail was written here in the makati thread post 3339.

http://www.InternationalSexGuide.info/forum/showthread.php?1006-Makati/page2

The only negatives I had which were very big is that the Mama san is always trying to run a fast one on you so you have to stay alert and the girls are so expensive. Honestly the korean massagge girls down the street from my house are going for the same price as these girls and are just as hot if not hotter.

Havana Cafe.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j9wSsEzOqiA

Location: Green belt.

Trendy cafe bar with live music. Looks clean with a good energy. Many freelance women. Looks are average to good looking. Short time 1, 500 to 3, 000 and long time 3, 000 to 5, 000 More of an upscale MBC or Fenwicks (for those who use to monger in Hong Kong)

Need help. Please correct.

Edsa entertainment complex.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=neMqYXVNrog

Location Pasay city.

This is like a go go mini shopping mall. This was my favorite place. You go inside the complex and there are 5 to 6 different bars each having there own theme. The bars are very spacious. The women I saw there seemed to be hotter and cheaper if I recall. I can't remember how much the barfines were but the tips were Short time 1, 500 to 3, 000 and long time 3, 000 to 4, 000. I felt that all the bars were very profesional and all had great customer service. The only thing it a 45min taxi drive from greenbelt area.

Question1.

Are there any short time hotels next to edsa? I haven't seen any on the forum. Actually I haven't seen anything recently reported on edsa.

Fishbowls.

Question 2.

Are they illegal now? I've been to a few 3 years ago but they looked closed.

Angeles city.

Question 3.

If you have only one night would Angeles city be worthing staying at?

Hutsori

10-19-13, 10:06

Question1.

Are there any short time hotels next to edsa? I haven't seen any on the forum. Actually I haven't seen anything recently reported on edsa.Next to EDSA no. Near EDSA yes. Behind the Heritage Hotel, which is across the street from the EDSA Entertainment Complex, is the Victoria Court Cuneta,

https://plus.google.com/118376523622855687004/about?gl=ph&hl=en

Question 3.

If you have only one night would Angeles city be worthing staying at?Need more details, in particular how many hours is your "one night"? What are your arrival and departure times in Manila? The travel time from NAIA to Angeles is approx 2 hours, and could be longer. Plan on a total of 5 hours in round-trip transpo. Since you're pressed for time I'll assume you'll take a taxi each way, so that's approx. P5000 for your round trip. You need to be at the airport 2 hours before departure for international and 1 hour before domestic (less if you do the online boarding pass, print it, and bring with you). Assuming you have 24 hours to play with you're now minus 6 or 7 of them. There's a lot of lovin' that can be done in those 17 hours, but to me a 1-day trip to Angeles is pushing it. I'd rather have those 5 hours and p5000 for play in Manila.

Soapy Smith

10-20-13, 07:31

Next to EDSA no. Near EDSA yes. Behind the Heritage Hotel, which is across the street from the EDSA Entertainment Complex, is the Victoria Court Cuneta,

https://plus.google.com/118376523622855687004/about?gl=ph&hl=enThere is also a Sogo diagonally across EDSA. Remember that EDSA is the name of the street; entertainment complex is named for the street on which it's located. Sogo is hard to miss: big, red and green, few if any windows. Sogo is also labeled in the map on H's link if you enlarge the map. Sogo hotels are known by Filipinos as love nests that allow you to drive in and park in their garage out of view and rent for three hours or so. Technically you can walk the pedestrian bridge across EDSA, which gets you to Sogo quickly, but many have reported problems with locals on the bridge. For getting to either Sogo or Victoria, either though they're both walking distance, consider a cab. Some cabs waiting at the complex may rip you off; you can walk a short distance either way on the Complex side of EDSA and may be more likely to get a legit cab. This is in Pasay City, not Makati.

Soapy Smith

10-20-13, 08:34

Sogo is hard to miss: big, red and green, few if any windows.Sorry, make that yellow and red. Green and red are Eurotel colors.

United1

11-02-13, 07:08

FLT09

11-02-13, 18:53

I returned from my trip a bit ago but haven't made it to the forums for a while. It's only right that I post about my first trip to Phil after all the feedback I received prior to leaving.

Unfortunately, it's nothing too crazy considering I changed my itinerary while I was there. I ended up staying in Makati my whole trip because it worked well for me and for my agenda it fit the bill. I figured I would just hit AC when I return next month.

My first night I hit EDSA and was instantly in awe of what I had walked into. Living in Korea, the monger black hole of Asia, I have not been able to experience anything similar. I checked out each place and got a girl from Pit Stop pretty quickly. Bar hopped for a bit and then back to the hotel. I think the bar fine was p1750? But I could be wrong, it was all a blur the first night. 2k tip the next morning plus lunch.

Went back to Riviera Mansion and had an all-night good time with the girl.

As advised by other members I picked up a phone right when I got in and I made the mistake of leaving it out for the girl to get too, but she didn't steal it, she saved her number and took mine. She proceeded to text and call me every day the rest of my stay. However, I did quickly learn that treating them really nicely, not that I would be a dick, would be very beneficial the rest of my stay.

I will post a few more reports soon in the Makati thread about my stay there, as well as some hotel reviews.

Soapy Smith

11-02-13, 18:57

Greetings,

Can anyone recommend a good OUTCALL place where they can send a good looker to my hotel room? I will be staying in at the Manderain Oriental Makati hotel at a large meeting with co-workers, so will be difficult for me to bring anyone back. Did some research on the forum, but doesn't seem like there are many proven options in Manila.

Any input or PMs would be greatly appreciated. U1Rather than risk being seen having a pro arrive at your room, why not slip away, do a little shopping on your own (e. g., in and around Greenbelt 3) , and take your merchandise to an inexpensive hot sheets hotel like Sogo? Sogo has its own website that shows locations, and you can also find many lodging facilities on either Google Earth or Google Maps. Many of the hot sheets places, recognizing their market niche, will do inexpensive deals for 3 or 6 hours.

United1

11-03-13, 02:52

Red Kilt

11-03-13, 03:23

Rather than risk being seen having a pro arrive at your room, why not slip away, do a little shopping on your own (e. g., in and around Greenbelt 3) , and take your merchandise to an inexpensive hot sheets hotel like Sogo? Sogo has its own website that shows locations, and you can also find many lodging facilities on either Google Earth or Google Maps. Many of the hot sheets places, recognizing their market niche, will do inexpensive deals for 3 or 6 hours.The closest hot sheet to Mandarin would be Eurotel at the bottom of Pasay Road (aka Arnaiz Road) on the corner of Chino Roces (the taxis know it as opposite the Walter Mart). Sogos are a bit harder to find and further away.

SK. No need to do any deals with these places. They already have fixed prices for short-stays, and even better reductions (20%) if you ask for a discount card.

Sogo has rates for 3 hours and up. Executive Rooms have mirrors on ceilings and one wall. Deluxe rooms don't, and are extremely basic.

Eurotel starts at a 4 hour rate minimum and is slightly more expensive but the rooms are larger and much better (IMHO). Sheets and towels are white (instead of grey) , and toothbrushes, shampoo and even a condom are provided.

Manta Ray

11-03-13, 09:56

Wicked Roger

11-03-13, 10:40

i recently got an email from my burgos massage girl 'friend':

'have a great weekend too babe. i'm early leaving from my work now cause i have flatulence. thanks for always responding my email. '

my sympathetic reply: 'sorry to hear about your flatulence babe. as an flatulent ol'bugger myself, i wish you a speedy recovery-well before our next session. '

manta raymr this made me laugh as makes a change from the normal "going to hospital as lola dying please send cash" or "i am stuck in manila need cash for ticket home please send now" message that many get regularly.

as for the flatulent old bugger, i wish you would not refer to rk like that.

rk. i knew you would know be able to advise on sogos / eurotel (a cretain lady we both know chuckles each time i menton sogos in manila saying that only rk knows them all lol)

Mongerer69

11-03-13, 15:12

During the day Havana and Greenbelt 3 are mostly legit business people hanging out, shopping, dining lunch etc. You may get an occasional straggler or a non-pro you will chat up. The action starts around dinner time. 6pm and heats up as the night goes on. For daytime action you are better off in Malate at Manila Bay Cafe or even at Robinsons Mall. Just sit by Starbucks at Robinsons and you will continually get "the eye".

Thanks Skips,

Excellent idea. Question though, are there "merchandise" (attractive ladies, not lady boys. Haha) around in the Afternoon? Will I find willing providers near Havana around lunchtime on a weekend?

Appreciate it.

Soapy Smith

11-03-13, 22:31

Eurotel starts at a 4 hour rate minimum and is slightly more expensive but the rooms are larger and much better (IMHO). Sheets and towels are white (instead of grey) , and toothbrushes, shampoo and even a condom are provided.I'll keep in mind that you know them all. Been a while since I last stayed at Eurotel, and then not for the 4 hour special. Are the condoms offered exclusively for the 4 or 6 hour specials? And are they Filipino- or Western-sized?

Red Kilt

11-04-13, 03:18

Eurotel has a 4 hour and upwards rate and Sogo a 3 hours and upward.

I have never used up the full 4 (or 3) hours (more like 2 to 2 and a half) so it is really just a notional time. With discounts it runs between 350 to 480 pesos.

Condoms are the cheapest and smallest available, and they only give you 1.

Barely fits on my thumb, but I save them up and pass them on to WR when I see him as they are OK for him.

Tally Wacker

11-04-13, 04:30

Condoms are the cheapest and smallest available, and they only give you 1.

Barely fits on my thumb, but I save them up and pass them on to WR when I see him as they are OK for him.Hahaha and how do you know that RK?

Wicked Roger

11-04-13, 06:42

Barely fits on my thumb, but I save them up and pass them on to WR when I see him as they are OK for him.Nice to know you are thinking of me in a Sogo. I think! But also a tad worrying LOL While we will not compare todger sizes as we all know who would win, the condoms are always useful if not for the intended purpose.

See you soon and I will likely bring another cutie with me as you a good mate and I know you will like her LOL.

X Man

11-04-13, 15:14

He has a cloth measuring tape like the tailors use. Very accurate when used properly. So I've heard.

Hahaha and how do you know that RK?

Tally Wacker

11-04-13, 17:08

He has a cloth measuring tape like the tailors use. Very accurate when used properly. So I've heard.I need to go look over the photo thread to get this terrible image out of my mind now. Or are the photos in the chit chat thread now? Very confusing LOL.

FreebieFan

11-05-13, 04:19

The closest hot sheet to Mandarin would be Eurotel at the bottom of Pasay Road (aka Arnaiz Road) on the corner of Chino Roces (the taxis know it as opposite the Walter Mart). Sogos are a bit harder to find and further away.

SK. No need to do any deals with these places. They already have fixed prices for short-stays, and even better reductions (20%) if you ask for a discount card.

Sogo has rates for 3 hours and up. Executive Rooms have mirrors on ceilings and one wall. Deluxe rooms don't, and are extremely basic.Theres one or two hotels in Burgos that do short time too. The one above Bottoms comes to mind, as I've used that once or twice.

Luvtwospa

11-06-13, 00:16

In Makati for business. Stayed at New World.

Arrived late on first night showered and went right to Havana. 15 minutes later scored a 27yo cutie named J. Had one of the best PSE in life so much that I invited her back on night 2 even after telling her I was a butterfly.

Night 3 Burgos. Started at Montana to visit some old friends for a quick hello and drink. Gave number but luckily never got texts due to being on the wrong phone network. After Montana went to Plan B and talked up 'Mamma Red'. She could not help me find what I was looking for and told me that Amy (old manager) was now at Kojax. Headed to Kojax after some lady drinks and was really impressed by the setup. I told Amy that it reminded me of Bangkok without the numbers on the girls. I accidentally choose a first night cutie that turned out to be a star fish. My mistake not Amy's. I did not question enough.

Night 4 went to 2 hands massage behind New World and close to the Japanese club 'Aichii'. Got the full sauna treatment and opted for a R&T.

Night 5 took the night off and slept for 18 hours.

Night 6 some of my local colleagues took me to Malate and then to a KTV where I was the only non pilippino in the house. I have NO idea where I was since I was driven there but the funny thing was that I saw 3 girls that were at Havana 2 nights earlier that I was really interested in but another punter moved in before I could. I did not go with any of the girls since I was with my colleagues, I think it was a test to see if I would actually do something since the rumor is that no one could resist the girls there. I kept telling them once they chose a girl I would but they would not so I didn't. (BS I know but still I did not want my local colleagues to know about my activities.

Night 7 (last night) Back to Havana with one of my US office team members who appears to not practice. I pretend to be worried about leaving the next day and packing my bags so we go back to the hotel together and I immediately go back downstairs to Havana. Pick the 22 yo stunner who was eyeing me up earlier and head back to the hotel for one of the hottest times I have ever had. She was hot and knew it but gave me great service.

I still have to get to EDSA. One day.

L2S

BrainDrain

11-06-13, 03:51

(BS I know but still I did not want my local colleagues to know about my activities.)

L2SI'm pretty sure the locals know what we get up to when we are in town. That stunner was probably a colleague's cousin.

Tally Wacker

11-06-13, 04:20

I'm pretty sure the locals know what we get up to when we are in town. That stunner was probably a colleague's cousin.And knowing how Filipinos like to spread the word its probably better not to give them any ammunition that might make it back to your homeland.

JustForFun21

11-06-13, 20:29

Thanks for the 7 nights report but unfortunately there was no useful information that could be of help to the fellow mongers. It would be good if you can indicate the price, what you liked, what you didn't like, etc. Without these information, I believe the report was incomplete. Thanks.

In Makati for business. Stayed at New World.

Arrived late on first night showered and went right to Havana. 15 minutes later scored a 27yo cutie named J. Had one of the best PSE in life so much that I invited her back on night 2 even after telling her I was a butterfly.

Night 3 Burgos. Started at Montana to visit some old friends for a quick hello and drink. Gave number but luckily never got texts due to being on the wrong phone network. After Montana went to Plan B and talked up 'Mamma Red'. She could not help me find what I was looking for and told me that Amy (old manager) was now at Kojax. Headed to Kojax after some lady drinks and was really impressed by the setup. I told Amy that it reminded me of Bangkok without the numbers on the girls. I accidentally choose a first night cutie that turned out to be a star fish. My mistake not Amy's. I did not question enough.

Night 4 went to 2 hands massage behind New World and close to the Japanese club 'Aichii'. Got the full sauna treatment and opted for a R&T.

Night 5 took the night off and slept for 18 hours.

Night 6 some of my local colleagues took me to Malate and then to a KTV where I was the only non pilippino in the house. I have NO idea where I was since I was driven there but the funny thing was that I saw 3 girls that were at Havana 2 nights earlier that I was really interested in but another punter moved in before I could. I did not go with any of the girls since I was with my colleagues, I think it was a test to see if I would actually do something since the rumor is that no one could resist the girls there. I kept telling them once they chose a girl I would but they would not so I didn't. (BS I know but still I did not want my local colleagues to know about my activities.

Night 7 (last night) Back to Havana with one of my US office team members who appears to not practice. I pretend to be worried about leaving the next day and packing my bags so we go back to the hotel together and I immediately go back downstairs to Havana. Pick the 22 yo stunner who was eyeing me up earlier and head back to the hotel for one of the hottest times I have ever had. She was hot and knew it but gave me great service.

I still have to get to EDSA. One day.

L2S

FreebieFan

11-07-13, 04:00

GoodEnough

11-08-13, 09:23

Fifty Pesos

11-08-13, 11:48

In anticipation of a thorough drenching here in Makati, I made a decision yesterday to close the office, while I stayed close to home. I needn't have worried. Aside from maybe 45 minutes of steady rain and a few breezes, there's been no weather disruption here.

GEWas in Makati for about 6 hours last night the night before that. Place is sprawling with tourist (mongers) and girls. Weather disruption is not an issue at all but street vendors selling old cell phones, sexual performance drugs is another story.

Red Kilt

11-08-13, 12:13

Was in Makati for about 6 hours last night the night before that. Place is sprawling with tourist (mongers) and girls. Weather disruption is not an issue at all but street vendors selling old cell phones, sexual performance drugs is another story.Not sure what you are talking about 50P nor whether you have read any news bulletins recently.

GE is discussing the fact that a Super Typhoon has just passed through the Philippines, and us residents were hoping for the best but expecting the worst.

As it has turned out, the typhoon moved too fast to dump much water across its wide path and so we experienced very little disruption.

I can assure you, having sat through at least 12 super typhoons both here and in Northern Luzon, that they constitute a severe "weather disruption".

Your comment, made in reference to Wednesday and Thursday night, has absolutely NO RELEVANCE WHATSOEVER to the topic of GE's post.

Wicked Roger

11-08-13, 16:23

In anticipation of a thorough drenching here in Makati, I made a decision yesterday to close the office, while I stayed close to home. I needn't have worried. Aside from maybe 45 minutes of steady rain and a few breezes, there's been no weather disruption here.

GEGE from what I read it is coming tonight Friday (?). Speaking to friends in Cebu and Leyte damage is very bad and some friends lost roofs, other more (a good mate lost his house as was 2 kms from the eye when it landed at gust reported at 350kph). Power is now back in parts of Cebu also (am not there this week)

Sometimes you don't know how lucky you are gents.

Pip Jaeger

11-09-13, 00:18

GE from what I read it is coming tonight Friday (?). Speaking to friends in Cebu and Leyte damage is very bad and some friends lost roofs, other more (a good mate lost his house as was 2 kms from the eye when it landed at gust reported at 350kph). Power is now back in parts of Cebu also (am not there this week)

Sometimes you don't know how lucky you are gents.It came through here Friday morning WR. In Cebu City it was not too bad, I would have equated the intensity to something more like a strong tropical storm or Cat-1 hurricane. It moved through fast and the worst of it was over in 2-3 hours, but it did rain (not as heavily as I expected) most of the day so there was some minor flooding. Power was shut off by the authorities around 9am and turned back on here in my area (just a little north of Ayala mall) about 10pm; the place I'm at has a generator so no power loss for us and surprisingly the Wi-Fi was working all day too. From I what read now and see on the TV, the north end of Cebu got hit pretty hard. A girl staying with me just got a text from a cousin who lives further up the coast near Catmon (she made her way down to Danao City via motor bike to another relative's house) , she lost the tin roof off her house and there's no power or water. She also says lots of trees uprooted and the coastal road is nearly impassable up there. Just motor cycles are able to get through, but even they have to be walked past or lifted over a few bad spots.

All in all it wasn't too bad here in the city, they dodged the bullet on this one.

GoodEnough

11-09-13, 01:06

despite the cancellation of more than 500 flights yesterday due to the super typhoon, airport operations today appear normal. i'm at the pal domestic terminal as i write this, and my check-in for my flight to davao was very fast. my flight is delayed for about 15 minutes which is much better than i feared. other than some minor rain, metro manila escaped the storm unrep001hed, as did davao, where i'm told it didn't even rain.

ge

Red Kilt

11-09-13, 02:43

I am perplexed by your post as you are of mine. I am talking about the overwhelming number of tourist and local ladies (people) that have descended upon Makati (Greenbelt and Burgos) in the last week.Ok both of us perplexed here.

I thought you were confusing the absence of any weather disturbance on Wednesday night with the likelihood that Thursday would also be benign despite a huge typhoon about to hit the area.

It seems your post was quite unrelated to the previous one of GE or else you didn't express yourself very well.

FLT09

11-10-13, 04:25

I was in Phil for a little over a week and pretty much stayed in Makati the whole time. Being a creature of habit, I was very content with this area.

The first day there I went into Tickles and learned about the happy hour deals which I was unaware of before I got there. Bar fine being 1750p it was fine for me. I wasn't really too concerned with saving money on this trip so Makati being more expensive didn't bother me.

I bar fined 3 times while there, all during happy hour. I did it when I wanted to have a girl the whole day for bar hopping and then at my room at night. They all agreed on 2000p tip the following day. Each left when they had to return to work the next afternoon.

What made the trip most interesting was the 3 girls were all from the same bar. So each time I would go back in there it was entertaining. One girl was extremely clingy and all of them agreed to meet me after they finished work, no bar fine no tip, which I took up 2 of them on that offer.

I stopped in most bars. One that I stopped in was Ivy. Early in the day and I was the only customer. All the girls came up and I picked one to sit with. I prefer to have just one girl opposed to 5 all fighting to talk. After talking with her, she pointed out her friend, who was just my type and I asked her to go get her friend. I spent about an hour there and we exchanged phone numbers. They kept asking to come over after work. So for my birthday, they both showed up after their shift for some fun. 2k tip for each the next morning, worth every peso. I am still in contact with 1 of those girls, who wants to stay with me when I return.

One of the days I went into Moulon Rouge with a girl I was bar hopping with. We ended up talking with another girl. I went back the next day to talk to this girl some more and things got interesting from there. She works early shift but does not bar fine. We kept texting during my stay and I stopped in to have a drink a couple times. As I was at the airport she said she was a virgin, which made sense considering how shy she was. We continue to talk and it is an interesting dynamic. A number of times I heard the "I love you" which I'm sure gets thrown around like crazy, so I just always nod and give the ok look. She also wants to stay with me when I return, but I'm not looking to lead a girl on, which I have made quite clear. I am clearly not waiting until marriage to have sex. She is ready to fly here and be a live in maid.

As it was my first trip, it was definitely a new dynamic that I hadn't experienced anywhere else. Everyday was a mongering adventure I could've never imagined. I will be back in December and many times after.

FLT.

Tally Wacker

11-10-13, 05:22

I was in Phil for a little over a week and pretty much stayed in Makati the whole time. Being a creature of habit, I was very content with this area.Thanks for the report FLT09. Its always good to hear first experiences because many guys fail to do this after they have asked a million questions and promise to leave a report and never do.

When you say " no bar fine no tip, which I took up 2 of them on that offer" I was curious if you actually tipped them or not?

FLT09

11-10-13, 05:30

Thanks for the report FLT09. Its always good to hear first experiences because many guys fail to do this after they have asked a million questions and promise to leave a report and never do.

When you say " no bar fine no tip, which I took up 2 of them on that offer" I was curious if you actually tipped them or not?I did try to tip both, but they refused and got offended when I insisted. The best I could do was take them out to lunch before they headed to work.

FLT.

Tally Wacker

11-10-13, 05:39

I did try to tip both, but they refused and got offended when I insisted. The best I could do was take them out to lunch before they headed to work.

FLT.Bar girls being offended and not accepting a tip sounds a little odd just saying. But I guess anything can happen in the Philippines.

FLT09

11-10-13, 05:53

Bar girls being offended and not accepting a tip sounds a little odd just saying. But I guess anything can happen in the Philippines.I did my fair share of tipping while there, but in these two cases none was needed. It was the second night with each of the girls. I had previously bar fined them and spent basically a full day with them. I am a younger guy and I like to think I treat the girls very well. I just got the feeling they were hoping to get something a little more long term out of it, maybe a "boyfriend" to send them money, who knows.

FLT.

LukeSkywalker

11-10-13, 07:31

Hi FLT09.

Very good report. Glad you had a good time everyday while you were there.

So you would bar fine a girl early during happy hours, like between 6. 8 PM, paying 1750 Php, take her out all evening, then spend the whole night with her untiel she goes to work the next day, like 5PM. The you tip her 2, 000 Php?

Total 3, 750 Php or about US$70 for the company of a young girl all day all night is a very good deal.

Did you find most of girls in Makati bars young and attractive?

Were you able to take any photos? If you did, please share.

I was in Phil for a little over a week and pretty much stayed in Makati the whole time. Being a creature of habit, I was very content with this area.

The first day there I went into Tickles and learned about the happy hour deals which I was unaware of before I got there. Bar fine being 1750p it was fine for me. I wasn't really too concerned with saving money on this trip so Makati being more expensive didn't bother me.

I bar fined 3 times while there, all during happy hour. I did it when I wanted to have a girl the whole day for bar hopping and then at my room at night. They all agreed on 2000p tip the following day. Each left when they had to return to work the next afternoon.

FLT.

FLT09

11-10-13, 09:33

Well there were plenty of girls to choose from, and I had no problem finding girls that I liked. The girls I went with were all 18-22 and attractive. I think I benefited from a couple different factors, mainly it was pretty dead there the week I went. A lot of the times I walked into a bar during happy hour it would only be me and on occasion late at night.

It would end up being more than 3750 because we would bar hop, but it does save on lady drinks once they are bar fined and they can drink beer, so add around 1500php for drinks, depending on how late I wanted to stay out drinking, and lunch the next day. They would usually walk back to their bar to change and get ready at around 3.

As for photos, I did not have photos of all the girls, but I did for a couple on my camera which I lost. I had a couple on my phone of hotels that I posted from the start of the trip, but the last hotel and the 2 girls I had photos of are gone. Hopefully next time I can come back with some visual remembrances.

FLT.

Quim Reaper

11-10-13, 21:39

Any news from AC? The AC forum seems to have gone dark the past 3 days. I was wondering if there are significant disruptions in AC in the wake of Typhoon Haiyan? Out of the blue, the Orchid Inn auto-emailed me yesterday with a garbled email asking me to reconfirm my reservation details, which they have never done previously, and in the body of the email they actually referenced someone other than me as the intended recipient, and have not responded to my reply. As I am supposed to be arriving there tomorrow via TigerAir, which is supposedly on schedule again, I was wondering if there is power outage, flooding, etc or just business as usual and unrelated confusion going on?

Red Kilt

11-11-13, 05:23

Any news from AC? The AC forum seems to have gone dark the past 3 days. I was wondering if there are significant disruptions in AC in the wake of Typhoon Haiyan? . SNIP. As I am supposed to be arriving there tomorrow via TigerAir, which is supposedly on schedule again, I was wondering if there is power outage, flooding, etc or just business as usual and unrelated confusion going on?I guess geography is not a strong suite for many guys reading this whole Phils forum.

It has been said many times on various threads here (and on CNN and other news bulletins) that Manila and all parts north received virtually no impact at all.

There were just a few rain showers on Friday / Saturday.

The typhoon hit the Visayas regions which are in the middle part of the Philippines.

Any pictures you see on TV or in newspapers are from the eastern side of the country. Manila is NW of the impacted areas.

Quim Reaper

11-11-13, 07:21

I guess geography is not a strong suite for many guys reading this whole Phils forum.

It has been said many times on various threads here (and on CNN and other news bulletins) that Manila and all parts north received virtually no impact at all.

There were just a few rain showers on Friday / Saturday.

The typhoon hit the Visayas regions which are in the middle part of the Philippines.

Any pictures you see on TV or in newspapers are from the eastern side of the country. Manila is NW of the impacted areas.I guess some guys that read this forum just like to assume whatever suits their needs. I know where AC is in relation to Manila and to the typhoon and have read various reports coming out of Manila, but there is little mention of AC anywhere and as I pointed out, the AC forum had gone completely quiet with respect to local reports and I got an odd email about previous bookings from my AC hotel and no reply to my attempt to find out what is going on with them. In addition, my posts are being moderated, so they are at least a half day out of sync with subsequent news, as with a helpful reply, finally, from someone on the ground in AC that things are apparently normal there.

United1

11-15-13, 09:35

Micky Mouse

11-15-13, 16:38

I will be in Makati for 4 days next week. Kindly advice on budget hotels in the Makati Ave area.

Thanks guys,

MM

Jp Slicky

11-16-13, 01:02

Cheap.

Clean and a bit on the small side

Betong

11-16-13, 03:52

Clean and a bit on the small sideTune are OK if you just need a cheap bed but I find something depressing about those antiseptic little rooms.

Jp Slicky

11-16-13, 10:37

Tune are OK if you just need a cheap bed but I find something depressing about those antiseptic little rooms.Well he asked for cheap and I gave cheap, disagree on the bed, I found mine very agreeable

Manny51

12-14-13, 16:15

I guess geography is not a strong suite for many guys reading this whole Phils forum.

It has been said many times on various threads here (and on CNN and other news bulletins) that Manila and all parts north received virtually no impact at all.

There were just a few rain showers on Friday / Saturday.

The typhoon hit the Visayas regions which are in the middle part of the Philippines.

Any pictures you see on TV or in newspapers are from the eastern side of the country. Manila is NW of the impacted areas.Still, I was surprised by the lack of impact on the rest of the PI. To be honest, I was thinking of posting questions in other areas, like AC and Boracay, as to how they were doing.

Did you see the satellite photo of that Typhoon? It covered the entire PI and was the largest in the area in recorded history. Why was Tacloban the only area "hit hard?"

Pip Jaeger

12-14-13, 17:31

Still, I was surprised by the lack of impact on the rest of the PI. To be honest, I was thinking of posting questions in other areas, like AC and Boracay, as to how they were doing.

Did you see the satellite photo of that Typhoon? It covered the entire PI and was the largest in the area in recorded history. Why was Tacloban the only area "hit hard?"As I was in Cebu City at the time I was worried a bit myself. The initial reports indicated that Cebu City was in or very close to the direct path, but as the typhoon got closer it veered a bit to the north, so living in the southeast USA and having lived through hurricanes here for the last 30+ years, my fear abated. The worst areas of damage are those typically in the direct path and to the north of the eye of a westward moving storm like that one.

What you seen on the news reports showed the entire storm including the outer rain bands. Yolanda's eye, where the winds were at their worse, was very compact; just 8-9 miles in diameter. Hence, the reduced area of wind damage. What typically causes even more damage, as was true there too, is the storm surge; Samar and Leyte reported 15-20 feet. And in addition if the storm is a slow moving one, the flooding and land / mud slides caused by rain can also be a major factor. Yolanda was a very fast moving typhoon, so luckily that did not come into play.

Tacloban was not the only city affected, it was just the largest city hit, it was in the direct path, and it was the most easily accessed after the typhoon, so news coverage of course focused on it.

http://worldnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/11/17/21496134-typhoon-haiyan-a-crisis-by-the-numbers

http://www.economist.com/news/asia/21589916-one-strongest-storms-ever-recorded-has-devastated-parts-philippines-and-relief

http://www.nasa.gov/content/goddard/haiyan-northwestern-pacific-ocean/

In 2004 I recall driving through the Punta Gorda area just a day after hurricane Charley hit (Category 4). What surprised me the most was how visible the actual path of the eye was and how compact it was too. Although the damaged areas were widespread, that one particular corridor was simply amazing. Nothing taller than a telephone pole stood and in one area you could see for miles nothing but what looked like white "poles" standing. It took a moment or two before it registered, they were what was left of pine trees, which the wind had stripped off not only all of their branches, but the bark too! Yet, just a few miles further south and the forested areas looked like they had just a few days before, hardly any damage at all.

Sugoi

12-21-13, 06:24

Hola,

Visited Bellagio Spa in Makati yesterday. Its across the street from the Clipper Hotel (look it up on Google Maps) off Burgos. Will be on the 3rd floor of a white building. Thanks to S* for the tip on this place. Its a good R&T place, I felt safe. Mamasan was friendly. My girl was about a 7, but did see some better hotties walking around. Good quality. 1hr oil massage was 800 php. Nude HJ (with tit sucking) was additional 800. I think I paid too much, but thats okay, I had difficulty understanding her English. Original intel advised that FS is available (1500-2000) , however again my girl didn't speak good english and the walls are paper thin, so wasn't sure what actually is available at that place. Overall, was a nice experience. Esp for someone like me who prefers more of the R&T places and could not bring a girl back to my hotel.

EnjoyUnited,

Tip should have been 500 for HJ and FS is available for many girls and a BJ from probably all of them for 1000. I was just there yesterday and FS was definitely available and she wanted BB. I had a condom in my pocket so pulled it out. She did want 3000 for a tip but I offered 2000 and she was fine with that. She first told me that FS wasn't allowed yet she was completely naked lying on top of me.

OneIpole

12-24-13, 05:40

Went to the club Havana in Greenbelt yesterday. Some cute ones but they asked for 120 USD. I though it was to much. Is this normal or they could tell I am new here?

RickNWill

12-25-13, 03:02

Happy Holidays all!

Was in Makati 1st week of November for work and of course pleasure when possible. Finally able to take time to share, work has been kicking my ass. Some of the details are fuzzy by now unfortunately. Will post in sections due to my ADD.

I would like to thank all those before me for sharing all invaluable tips, some of which I used, some of which I didn't use most likely to my detriment!

Flew in 11pm Saturday night. 2nd in line at immigration, through customs, exchanged USD for taxi $, bought Globe SIM card and minute upload, took yellow taxi, skyway to Makati.

Deplaning to The Gramercy in Makati (next to Best Western Antel) in 30-40 minutes flat!

The Gramercy Residences are brand new and beautiful studios / 1BR's with unbelievable amenities. Alot of owners / investors are renting them out usually 3 night minimum. I got my unit for $65 USD / night. Best part is walk of shame is accepted and walls are made of like concrete. You cannot hear anything from adjacent units. You can hear hallway noise. Check airbnb. Com

MangoDB

12-25-13, 10:01

Club Havana is over rated now. I was there 3 weeks back and lots of regular pros and asking 100USD. You will find better girls inside near the bar, or near restroom.

Went to the club Havana in Greenbelt yesterday. Some cute ones but they asked for 120 USD. I though it was to much. Is this normal or they could tell I am new here?

RickNWill

12-26-13, 08:01

2 other coworkers also had studios at The Gramercy.

Finally tracked one down at 12:30, we walked over to Burgos.

Went for a drink at bar that looks out onto the street next to Bottoms, forget name of the place. We had a JW Scotch and a Grey goose with soda. More expensive than back home.

Saw Plan B across the street and read that it has lower bar fines. Went in, typical scene as described in forum, we ran up about a 2,000-2,500 PHP tab plus tips. Vanessa, the manager, bar fined us 3 girls for 2,000 PHP each.

Walked back to The Gramercy, I took two and coworker took the other one.

Hot joint shower and my first 3some ever and it was unbelievable. Apparently it was the first trick for one of them, Michelle. She was very shy at first, but loosened up and eventually was dripping wet and really got into it. She was a 7/10 in looks spinner body.

The other, Abigail was a 9/10 looks for me also spinner body. She was also into it and very wet.

Both were big A's or small B's.

Refreshing to see that no KY was used as common in MP's back home.

I've had my share of 10-20 pumps and blowing my load but we had a great hot time for about 45 minutes. Thank god! We did everything except Greek. No girl on girl.

Michelle went to take a shower and I told Abigail to stay with me a little longer.

Since I was over satisfied with my experience I tipped them both 3,000 PHP and sent Michelle on her way. Ok yes I guess I over paid but whatever.

Abigail stayed for another hour for round 2. Another hot bang.

So within 2 1/2 hours of landing I was balls deep in a smoking 3some!

Attitude and Service for both were 10/10 I have to say.

My coworker had Weng (sp?) , cute maybe slightly bigger build but not thick. He said she also provided good service.

RickNWill

12-27-13, 05:11

Second night we went to Bottoms because I had read here that they have the best looking girls on Burgos.

Talent was definitely a step up from Plan B. Girls where a ribbon across their torso so you can see breasts. We didn't get a blitz of girls at all. After a beer my buddy was into a tall spinner hottie and she came with a short spinner cutie. Had a couple of drinks with them. All the while my girl was rubbing my cock and I was petting her pussy.

We decided to take them and asked mama how much for the bar fine. Memory is foggy but it was 4,000 or 4, 500 PHP. Think it was 4,500. I would have settled for 3,000 PHP since we didn't drink that much but I told her 2,500. She said no, so we asked for the tab.

The girls were pretty pissed and asked what happened. Told them mama wanted 4,500, girls said that was way too much. Sorry girls, here's my number give me a call. No call.

We decided to call it a night since the next morning was the start of work. 2 really young street walkers approached us as we were walking off Burgos. Both were 6-7/10. Agreed on 1,000 PHP each.

Uneventful joint shower, got her on bed, wasn't into me kissing her neck, wasn't into me sucking her nips, wasn't into DATY. So I said fuck it I'm going to play with her asshole and try to prep her for some Greek, the biatch. Didn't want me playing with her hole and I just decided to pump her and unload as quick as possible and get her out of here.

She went to take a shower and I actually fell asleep and woke up as she was dressing. Jet lag was catching up to me.

I had 1,100 PHP on me which I gave her. She wanted more. Ya okay, you should've thought of that when I was trying to play with your asshole. Told her that's all I had except for my USD that was hidden away. She saw change on the table and proceeded to take it. Unbelievable. She then wrote down her name and number. Ya right! GTFO of here. I would have walked her to the elevator but I just opened the door and pointed her in the direction of the elevator.

Sunday was pretty dead on the streets of Burgos and in the bars. I was also surprised Saturday night was fairly light also. But could've been because it was All Saints Day weekend, which I understand is a pretty big holiday?

My coworker said his girl even tidied up his studio!

OneIpole

12-27-13, 05:45

OneIpole

12-27-13, 06:08

Club Havana is over rated now. I was there 3 weeks back and lots of regular pros and asking 100USD. You will find better girls inside near the bar, or near restroom.I would not say overrated, but more like overpriced. The girls there are trying to make top money. I guess they think they can it. Someone must be paying them.

Wicked Roger

12-28-13, 03:15

I would not say overrated, but more like overpriced. The girls there are trying to make top money. I guess they think they can it. Someone must be paying them.I agree and if they don't ask they won't get paid what they think they can get.

Also look at it in terms of where some guys come from. For expample in the Middle East say Dubai $100 is AED375 and that will get you a fugly PRC or African well over 30. Some mongers like that as they are cheap and the girsl are happy. Some PRC will see 2-4 guys beforehand then are happy with $100 or less for the rest of the night.

Filis at that price. Not really unless super short time and they are rushing to other guys. Or you are back in the early 2000s and living in a time warp.

You pay for what you get and many Arabs easily pay 10000/15000 +pesos for girls. Some of the UAE mongers openly say they pay around 6000 pesos for a 30 minute session with an in call!

So for them in the Philippines $100 is a bargain and they don't care about trying to knock off $20/$30 as the girls are likely better quality and more fun.

YMMV

Lakeside

12-28-13, 10:11

Club Havana is over rated now. I was there 3 weeks back and lots of regular pros and asking 100USD. You will find better girls inside near the bar, or near restroom.Two weeks ago I did find a very nice 22 year old girl inside Havana at the bar who agreed on 3000 PHP / 70 USD for LT. Very cuddly, great GF feeling and good performance. Compared to most Burgos street bars I would say this is still a reasonable LT rate!

Eldjay

12-29-13, 16:26

I had one night in Makati, before going to Olongapo. I was not there because of girls.

But everywhere I got offers, specially on internet cafe`s. Really good looking girls. And everytime I went out to smoke, a girl would come out, and ask if I wanted company.

I did not liked my stay in PH, because I was in love with Thailand. But after finding this site, I will give Makati a secound change, and will try Angeles.

OneIpole

12-29-13, 21:32

I agree and if they don't ask they won't get paid what they think they can get.

Also look at it in terms of where some guys come from. For expample in the Middle East say Dubai $100 is AED375 and that will get you a fugly PRC or African well over 30. Some mongers like that as they are cheap and the girsl are happy. Some PRC will see 2-4 guys beforehand then are happy with $100 or less for the rest of the night.

Filis at that price. Not really unless super short time and they are rushing to other guys. Or you are back in the early 2000s and living in a time warp.

You pay for what you get and many Arabs easily pay 10000/15000 +pesos for girls. Some of the UAE mongers openly say they pay around 6000 pesos for a 30 minute session with an in call!

So for them in the Philippines $100 is a bargain and they don't care about trying to knock off $20/$30 as the girls are likely better quality and more fun.

YMMVThat makes a lot of sense. I was talking to some friends in USA and they are paying at least $200.00 for a hour or so. So when they hear they can pay $100.00 for all night and sleep over they think the price is incredible.

I can see why some travelers easily pay so much.

Treesome69

12-30-13, 19:33

Hi,

Happy new year to everybody!

Here some pics of a nice 3 some arranged with the kind help of WR! Was lots of fun. As you can see!

Enjoy!

Treesome 69

Treesome69

12-30-13, 20:01

Bar fined these 2 lovely ladies in Burgos street and brought them back to my hotel for some naughty playing.

They were very beautiful, a pity I had to hide faces to protect their identity!

Enjoy!

Treesome69

Fifty Pesos

12-31-13, 00:58

Nice hotel the Dusit Thani is. Great photos complete with great girls. Bravo.

OneIpole

12-31-13, 01:13

Hi,

Happy new year to everybody!

Here some pics of a nice 3 some arranged with the kind help of WR! Was lots of fun. As you can see!

Enjoy!

Treesome 69Nice set of pics. Looks like a good party!

Tally Wacker

12-31-13, 01:34

Nice hotel the Dusit Thani is. Great photos complete with great girls. Bravo.Please attach an article with your post next time.

Cunning Stunt

12-31-13, 03:39

Please attach an article with your post next time.Bloody hell! If you want a job doing well, best do it yourself.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/11/12/american-found-dead-makati-hotel

Did you miss that one, FP?

FreebieFan

12-31-13, 04:19

Bloody hell! If you want a job doing well, best do it yourself.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/11/12/american-found-dead-makati-hotel

Did you miss that one, FP?Leave poor old FP alone. He does a great job of re-reporting the things that we all have read anyway. LOL.

FBI agents in Manila. Wonder how many there are. Must be fun when they come up against the local boys in blue establishing jurisdiction.

Radical Guy

12-31-13, 04:20

Bloody hell! If you want a job doing well, best do it yourself.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/11/12/american-found-dead-makati-hotel

Did you miss that one, FP?Knowledgeable sources report that the note stated as follows: "I just saw my mahal walking out of the MBC with another man. I can't take it! Goodbye, cruel world."

Tally Wacker

12-31-13, 04:32

Knowledgeable sources report that the note stated as follows: "I just saw my mahal walking out of the MBC with another man. I can't take it! Goodbye, cruel world."Very funny RG.

I was just thinking how does a divorced guy with a good job living in the Philippines commit suicide? I could understand if he fucked himself to death.

Pip Jaeger

12-31-13, 12:22

Very funny RG.

I was just thinking how does a divorced guy with a good job living in the Philippines commit suicide?Reportedly he was just there on vacation. Perhaps he thought he died and was in pussy heaven. When he realized he would have to return to sex prison USA he decided otherwise.

Cunning Stunt

01-01-14, 04:32

This article is dated 2012. I only post current events.We are aware of that but just a little surprised that you had missed such a juicy human tragedy, involving a US citizen. Or had you, at that time, not yet adopted the role of ISG Philippine forums resident rubbernecking ghoul and ambulance chaser?

GoodEnough

01-01-14, 05:44

First, a very happy new year to all who read this. We decided to spend this New Year's Even in Makati at the Fairmont, and it turned out to be a sound decision. From the dinner in the main restaurant, to the "countdown" by the pool on the 9th floor or Raffles, the settings were elegant and the service superb. I think four of us managed to consume 5 bottles or so of Veuve Cliquot Orange Label though I lost count after the fourth bottle. The Fairmont hosted one of the most elegant and well managed celebrations I've ever attended.

The pool on the ninth floor of Raffles offered an ideal perspective to view the incredible panoply of fireworks that burst along the length of the entire horizon that was viewable from this spot. I've never seen such profuse displays prior to this, and the fact that they began about 11:30 and continued for at least am hour sated my appetite for such displays for another year. Filipinos do know how to party.

The dinner and count-down crowds were a mix of European and Filipino celebrants and I'm reasonably sire that a good time was had by all.

Happy New Year guys.

GE

Tally Wacker

01-03-14, 05:17

The pool on the ninth floor of Raffles offered an ideal perspective to view the incredible panoply of fireworks that burst along the length of the entire horizon that was viewable from this spot. I've never seen such profuse displays prior to this, and the fact that they began about 11:30 and continued for at least am hour sated my appetite for such displays for another year. Filipinos do know how to party.

GEI video of the fireworks in Manila to go with your story.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ad_1388716859

JPF

01-03-14, 22:21

I video of the fireworks in Manila to go with your story.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ad_1388716859And here is one result of so many fireworks exploded over a populated area:

http://www.gmanetwork.com/news/story/289157/news/nation/doh-931-firework-related-injuries-in-2012-13

LukeSkywalker

01-03-14, 23:50

Why is someone stupid enough to hang himself in Makati's pussy heaven?

Obviously he was not screwing to death. More likely he got all these sexy, pretty Pinays to his room but could not get his erection, so there was no reason to keep on living.

Meanwhile a few ISG pervs have the embarrassing problem of hiding their huge erections while attending churches or pagodas, walking down Makati's streets filled with the sexy scents of wet pussies, while their groins were being examined by good-looking nurses.

Bloody hell! If you want a job doing well, best do it yourself.

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/metro-manila/06/11/12/american-found-dead-makati-hotel

Did you miss that one, FP?

Slippery

01-04-14, 03:07

Aside of being ignorant of the possibilities that perhaps the deceased MAY have had some signigicant mental health issues or organic health issues going on, or a combination of both, Luke's post below is probably the stupidest, cold and heartless posts that I have ever seen on this board. Hope I'm around when you meet your demise Luke so I don't laugh at you and spit on your corpse.

One way or another down the road, we're all going to have health issues, mental health issues or a combination of them which ultimately lead our deaths. We have no control over either. Luke dude, why don't you find out who his children are and send them that post? You gonna laugh at your mom when she dies? That post was wholly and totally out of line. Yeah Luke, you're a really funny guy.

Nvslim

01-04-14, 16:05

I video of the fireworks in Manila to go with your story.

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=7ad_1388716859Nice video, reminds me of video of Bagdad at start of Desert Storm.

Slim

RickNWill

01-05-14, 03:28

3rd night was uneventful due to long day working.

Went across the street to a Chinese hot pot restaurant called Typhoon. 2nd level A Venue mall.

Got a number from one of the waitresses. 2 days later took her to Glorietta / Greenbelt malls for shopping and lunch for something that resembled "Italian" food.

Next day she had a 3 hour lunch so she came over to mess around, no banging though. Didn't have time to work it further as we were only there for a week.

My coworker also picked up a local girl in the supermarket in A Venue mall.

I share this only because I found that Filipino ladies are very approachable. Even if you were socially challenged it would be a great place to work on your game.

We did not get to other malls mentioned here that had streetwalkers like MOA, Harrison Plaza, Robinsons. But did ok with regular girls at this small mall.

I did happen to walk by Havana in Greenbelt by chance on the date and took a look but that was in the afternoon and it didn't seem like there was any potential action in there.

OneIpole

01-05-14, 09:13

Anybody hang out at Hooters on Makati Ave?

They have some cuties there and have a little dance spot on the top floor.

The food is overpriced but the beer is good.

They also show a lot of USA sports. Football and basketball.

Metol

01-05-14, 15:50

Happy2014.

Spend New Year's celebrations in Makati, top place for chicks! I stayed at the Dusit Thani Hotel without problems bringing ladies into the room. The Havana Café a good pick up join, scored freebies. But, voluntarily after LT handed over 3000 PHP and well received. The HC starts to pick up after 10 PM with not so loud latin beats playing next to bar and the waitresses are young hotties, too!

Have fun,

Mt

Lobo Loco

01-07-14, 01:23

Ok guys,

I am booking my first trip to the phils, and I am sooo excited! Apparently the 21 day visa waiver was increased to 30 days last August, and I intend to take advantage of it, stay four weeks unless I need to come home sooner, in which case I can change my ticket for a $100 fee.

I'm in the San Francisco CA bay area, so I've booked on EVA, SFO / TPE / MNL. 19 hours, $846. 50 are / t. Not looking forward to the long flight but definitely looking forward to the landing.

Here's my tentative plan:

Makati, probably New World, maybe hit High Heels just because I've never had the experience of playing with girls tits in a bar, as some on here have mentioned. Then try my luck at Havana Cafe on Fri / Sat / Sun.

Ermita, maybe Best Western, to check out MBC for a couple of days. Then to Angeles.

Then Cebu, to meet up with what appear to be a few absolute sweethearts I've been chatting up on DIA. Some are just young moms looking to meet the rich foreigner, others are 19yo amateur p4p'ers, I think.

Then. Well, I don't know what then. Play it by ear.

I've spent hours RTFF and you guys have been extremely helpful, thank you for all the great information. I'm a complete newbie so don't laugh, because you were once where I am now. But I have a few specific questions I would like to ask if I may:

1) Transportation from Manila to Angeles. TripAdvisor has a harsh report on FlytheBus, the A / C was inoperable and they lied about it beforehand, causing a mutiny en route. Is there a better way? Or maybe that was just one isolated incident.

2) Is there an easy Angeles / Cebu connection, so I don't waste time going back to Manila?

3) Ladyboys. I hate to admit it but I cannot recognize them. I know to look for the adams apple but on DIA they still fool me. Would a ladyboy intentionally let you take it to your hotel? Or do they just laugh and tell you what they are up front, like they have done me on DIA?

Thanks in advance for any responses. Welcome any general comments on my plan. And if any of you psychos might be around to meet up with for a beer while I'm there, I'd be up for it.

Wicked Roger

01-07-14, 03:39

2) is there an easy angeles / cebu connection, so i don't waste time going back to manila?

3) ladyboys. i hate to admit it but i cannot recognize them. i know to look for the adams apple but on dia they still fool me. would a ladyboy intentionally let you take it to your hotel? or do they just laugh and tell you what they are up front, like they have done me on dia?welcome ll and have fun. it really is more fun in the philippines as your rtff would have proven.

from angeles there is a clark. cebu flight with cebu pacific so book online. once a day (evening) is fine have taken this a few times.

lbs. each has there own way but if it looks too good to be true (to be talking to you) then it probably is. around havana café they hang around the outside trying to get your attention. it is funny to watch a newbie chat to them thinking they scored a real beauty at times lol.

lbs will let you intentionally do anything you and they want so best avoid like the plague and if unsure then ask them as most will then confess. dia and real life in person can be different as one member found out despite telling me at the time he knew how to spot a lb after years of living in asia. and ended up meeting 2 in the same day (but naturally running away at speed when he met them in person and they fessed up).

OneIpole

01-07-14, 09:26

Ok guys,

I am booking my first trip to the phils, and I am sooo excited! Apparently the 21 day visa waiver was increased to 30 days last August, and I intend to take advantage of it, stay four weeks unless I need to come home sooner, in which case I can change my ticket for a $100 fee.

I'm in the San Francisco CA bay area, so I've booked on EVA, SFO / TPE / MNL. 19 hours, $846. 50 are / t. Not looking forward to the long flight but definitely looking forward to the landing.

Here's my tentative plan:

Makati, probably New World, maybe hit High Heels just because I've never had the experience of playing with girls tits in a bar, as some on here have mentioned. Then try my luck at Havana Cafe on Fri / Sat / Sun.

Ermita, maybe Best Western, to check out MBC for a couple of days..Sounds like a good flight. I take the same one at night time. I sleep on the way to Taipei and arrive there early morning. Then do some shopping because the Taiwan airport is just packed with duty free. (note- you cannot take duty free from USA. But you can purchase it from Taiwan to take to Manila). Great price on the ticket to.

Visa time: You can increase your visa time at the Manila airport when you arrive. You do it before you go through security. You just have to pay a fee and can stay up to 90 days. Do it at the airport, do not go downtown and don't let them talk you into going downtown. That place is a nightmare)

Don't worry, you won't have to try your luck- You just have to pay! Haha.

Have good time!

X Man

01-07-14, 15:20

Moving from Makati to MBC is a step down, and that often ends in disappointment.

Swagman bus goes three times a day, but around the corner at Southern Cross is an alternative. Better bus, for sure. Used F the Bus last week and the ac worked. Took the SC bus back to Manila.

Cebu Pacific flys Clark to Cebu three time a week. You should be warned that there is a 15kilo weight limit before they start adding extra fees.

I'm glad to hear that you are "soooo excited". Sound like you might actually get along well with the LdyBys. LOL.

Have fun X.

Ok guys,

I am booking my first trip to the phils, and I am sooo excited! Apparently the 21 day visa waiver was increased to 30 days last August, and I intend to take advantage of it, stay four weeks unless I need to come home sooner, in which case I can change my ticket for a $100 fee.

I'm in the San Francisco CA bay area, so I've booked on EVA, SFO / TPE / MNL. 19 hours, $846. 50 are / t. Not looking forward to the long flight but definitely looking forward to the landing.

Here's my tentative plan:

Makati, probably New World, maybe hit High Heels just because I've never had the experience of playing with girls tits in a bar, as some on here have mentioned. Then try my luck at Havana Cafe on Fri / Sat / Sun.

Ermita, maybe Best Western, to check out MBC for a couple of days. Then to Angeles.

Then Cebu, to meet up with what appear to be a few absolute sweethearts I've been chatting up on DIA. Some are just young moms looking to meet the rich foreigner, others are 19yo amateur p4p'ers, I think.

Then. Well, I don't know what then. Play it by ear.

I've spent hours RTFF and you guys have been extremely helpful, thank you for all the great information. I'm a complete newbie so don't laugh, because you were once where I am now. But I have a few specific questions I would like to ask if I may:

1) Transportation from Manila to Angeles. TripAdvisor has a harsh report on FlytheBus, the A / C was inoperable and they lied about it beforehand, causing a mutiny en route. Is there a better way? Or maybe that was just one isolated incident.

2) Is there an easy Angeles / Cebu connection, so I don't waste time going back to Manila?

3) Ladyboys. I hate to admit it but I cannot recognize them. I know to look for the adams apple but on DIA they still fool me. Would a ladyboy intentionally let you take it to your hotel? Or do they just laugh and tell you what they are up front, like they have done me on DIA?

Thanks in advance for any responses. Welcome any general comments on my plan. And if any of you psychos might be around to meet up with for a beer while I'm there, I'd be up for it.

Sammon

01-07-14, 16:50

Cebu Pacific flys Clark to Cebu three time a week. You should be warned that there is a 15kilo weight limit before they start adding extra fees.You can select weight of check in baggage when you book the ticket. I have always selected 20 KG. There is a charge for any checked in baggage even if it is 15 KG.

They say there is a limit of one carry on bag within 7 KG but I have seen plenty of locals taking on the plane 2-3 carry ones with larger dimensions and nobody seem to be bothered.

FreebieFan

01-08-14, 01:57

You can select weight of check in baggage when you book the ticket. I have always selected 20 KG. There is a charge for any checked in baggage even if it is 15 KG.

They say there is a limit of one carry on bag within 7 KG but I have seen plenty of locals taking on the plane 2-3 carry ones with larger dimensions and nobody seem to be bothered.I've been endlessly harassed by the children that work for the airline " Sir weigh carry on bags sir " Sir check bag not too heavy sir " " sir we must check bag for you. It for your convenience ". All are met with a doleful expression and a tight grip on my bag and a reply along the lines of " when you have checked absolutely everyone elses bag, including the lola over there with 6 carry ons then maybe you can weigh mine "

Of course having usually had mutiple sex partners and overdoses of San Mig, and a total lack of sleep I'm usually a tired grumpy bastard by the time seated at the gate.

FruitNinja

01-09-14, 04:26

wr,

so you're saying the lb will go back to the hotel without fessing up. that's a recipe for a disaster. crazy. i was in mikati and saw a stunner that i had scene at the havana cafe. talked to her (maybe him) but she / he couldn't convince me that he / she was really a woman. i was there with a good friend from medellin and he couldn't tell either. when in doubt pass.

fn.

welcome ll and have fun. it really is more fun in the philippines as your rtff would have proven.

from angeles there is a clark. cebu flight with cebu pacific so book online. once a day (evening) is fine have taken this a few times.

lbs. each has there own way but if it looks too good to be true (to be talking to you) then it probably is. around havana café they hang around the outside trying to get your attention. it is funny to watch a newbie chat to them thinking they scored a real beauty at times lol.

lbs will let you intentionally do anything you and they want so best avoid like the plague and if unsure then ask them as most will then confess. dia and real life in person can be different as one member found out despite telling me at the time he knew how to spot a lb after years of living in asia. and ended up meeting 2 in the same day (but naturally running away at speed when he met them in person and they fessed up).

OneIpole

01-09-14, 06:07

I agree, if you can't tell for sure move on.

At cubana in Burgos their are so many BB's. There is one there that is super hot, I can't believe it has a dick!

You have to be careful with this fucking LB'S. Its total BS that they lie and say they are a woman. I guess smack them in the privates and see if they wince in pain!

Wicked Roger

01-09-14, 09:34

WR,

So you're saying the LB will go back to the hotel without fessing up. That's a recipe for a disaster. Crazy. I was in Mikati and saw a stunner that I had scene at the Havana Cafe. Talked to her (maybe him) but she / he couldn't convince me that he / she was really a woman. I was there with a good friend from Medellin and he couldn't tell either. When in doubt pass.

FN.Is business FN. I see many newbies westerners in Cebu chatting to stunners who I know are LBs and they will only find out later their stunner is a he.

Cash is ash so why let a little minor issue about gender get in the way LOL.

Radical Guy

01-09-14, 12:04

So you're saying the LB will go back to the hotel without fessing up. That's a recipe for a disaster. Crazy. I was in Mikati and saw a stunner that I had scene at the Havana Cafe. Talked to her (maybe him) but she / he couldn't convince me that he / she was really a woman. I was there with a good friend from Medellin and he couldn't tell either."Those eyes, those thighs. SURPRISE!" Remembering Billy Crystal's little ditty at the Oscars. Hahaha.

RG

Cbea20

01-10-14, 03:09

I was cruising outside Havana Cafe one evening and fell into conversation with a LB. I realized pretty quickly what he really was. I did not confront him directly. Instead, I told him a story: "One time in Cebu (at Ayala) I got fooled and picked up a LB. But once we got to my room, of course I realized my mistake. And it ended up a waste of time for both of us. He left with no money. Of course I did not give him any money. Deceivers don't deserve money!" The Havana LB got the message. (They are smarter than the average girl, aren't they.) He switched to introducing me to girls. But his girls were unsuitable. We parted ways, and I found my own. There was no need to get into a dispute with the LB. Eventually, he will find someone who wants him for what he is.

WR,

So you're saying the LB will go back to the hotel without fessing up. That's a recipe for a disaster. Crazy. I was in Mikati and saw a stunner that I had scene at the Havana Cafe. Talked to her (maybe him) but she / he couldn't convince me that he / she was really a woman. I was there with a good friend from Medellin and he couldn't tell either. When in doubt pass.

FN.

Cool Traveler

01-13-14, 23:24

I was cruising outside Havana Cafe one evening and fell into conversation with a LB. I realized pretty quickly what he really was. I did not confront him directly. Instead, I told him a story: "One time in Cebu (at Ayala) I got fooled and picked up a LB. But once we got to my room, of course I realized my mistake. And it ended up a waste of time for both of us. He left with no money. Of course I did not give him any money. Deceivers don't deserve money!" The Havana LB got the message. (They are smarter than the average girl, aren't they.) He switched to introducing me to girls. But his girls were unsuitable. We parted ways, and I found my own. There was no need to get into a dispute with the LB. Eventually, he will find someone who wants him for what he is.Yes, they are very smart. It takes some doing to get the way they are. All have different motives. One of the girls I met frequently, had a LB as her best friend. I did talk to him. And yes, no need to pick a fight. He / She did tell me. Some of the LBs are pretty bad, and some are pretty good. And he / she did tell me, if you don't care for them, just avoid them. They are there because there are guys who look for them. Common terms I heard was, Arab's love them. Go figure. They always on the periphery particularly on the side of Seattle's best.

They are usually tall, usually very pretty, invariable taller with their high heels. You can never tell.

Red Kilt

01-14-14, 04:48

. <SNIP . They always on the periphery particularly on the side of Seattle's best.

They are usually tall, usually very pretty, invariable taller with their high heels. You can never tell.They are also always very exaggerated in their movements. Huge sway of the hips; always swishing and fiddling with the hair; looking all around with obvious intent.

Some have extraordinary bodies and you could be "sucked in" if you didn't keep your wits about you.

Wicked Roger

01-14-14, 06:28

Common terms I heard was, Arab's love them. Go figure. They always on the periphery particularly on the side of Seattle's best.

They are usually tall, usually very pretty, invariable taller with their high heels. You can never tell.No surprises there CT for those who know the Middle East well.

Recently at my hotel I saw an Arab walk in with 2 LBs and I mentioned to the security guy if the guest knew they were LBs. He said he told the Arab guest and the guest was very happy as for swishing and sawing their hips RK. You been sitting in Seattle Coffee shop far too long methinks LOL.

OneIpole

01-16-14, 22:54

Was at Spicy Fingers last night and quite a few night shift workers stopped by. Two pretty sexy girls with long legs. I got to drunk to make it worth my time to take them home, but was surprised by the talent.

Member #4387

01-21-14, 05:34

From Friday 17 until today I have lived at my favorite place In Makati. I thought maby I would slow down a tad, girlwice, but them girls seems to keep coming with a very high precentage of positive replays when sending them a text. Since I use earlier datingsitecontacts only this time ofcourse a few of them have changed their numbers and are unreachable. So far so good and unlike Freebiefans experience (great report by the way in Manila thread, seems to kept you busy for a while, hehe) , I have been the one beeing late for some of my dates. Around 30 minutes one girl was late but thats it. I underline strongly they should leave realy early for not beeing late.

Early Friday afternoon met up with this 18 year old spinner (having met her once before but only did some kissing) , living here in Makati somewhere. She is some sort of student and a virgin and this time she wanted me to pop her cherry. I thought what the heck, even if that never been my dream. When getting down to business in my room, I felt her body shivers and she looked afraid. I comforted her as best I could and cancelled the session (she did smoke my bandit to some extent but realy there was no schwong to it). I bye byed her and send her away with some norwegian chocolate from which she was very happy. She is texting me like crazy and wants to try again. I. Have to say I appreciates all her efforts to grow up but I think I will not be the one teaching her the sex part.

Later the eve one regular korean office girl came over staight from work. She did infact put on some weight but not very mucha nd still had a very tight body. She knows my deal I have GF back home (but she does not of the one I have here). We just grabbed a bite to eat at Tony Ramos, got tipsy due to some drinks and we got on our way in the bed. She is a nice spinner and a giver. I like this one. She warned me about giving her any money so I did not.

Around midnight eve I was texting one girl I have never met before and she replied very fast and only 15 minutes later she showed up. She did not want to admit anything but I presume she had to be located around Greenbeltarea or sth. 165cm. 21yrs and 45kg. A spinster body and tetas looking like bolt ons but I can not find any scars and she tells them are real. Claims to have been modeling back at Palawan. She spend the night and we had a few sessions without me beeing able to ejac until early morning. Send her off with 3000piso as she smells of beeing some sort of semi pro (or more) girl.

Saturday met up with a slim. 22 year old nice girl, popping up from the dark somewhere in my phonebook. I did have no clue who she was anymore but she responded and told her she could come over in a couple of ours. It is nice to be a daredevil sometimes not knowing what we throw our self into (only sometimes as I mostly like to know very well who I am dealing with). We met at Itallianis and grabbed a bite and when entering the room she showed me a great stomach, very tight and well fitted. She did have a few pimpels at her forehead but the rest was almost perfect. I ate her fresh pussy (seemd almost untouched but I know ofcourse better to realy believe that even if they say so or not, she did not say anything about that). While sucking her clit she did realy get into it and I felt the heavy breathing and juices finding its way to my mouth. She asked me to fuck her and we had a jolly good session. I watched the clock and I saw all in a sudden I was running late for my next meet up. All in all a delightful young spinner, with very little attitude. I kid you not she did start crying when I gave her chocolate and when I even put 2K in her purse tears where flooding. What a greatful girl.

Beeing late to my next date excused by some stomachissues. I believe the two girls have crossed paths outside the Glorietta 4 entrance, hehe. Jenny. 30, 160 and a very thight body (I was realy looking forward to this one). We have had all this dirty talking going on for a year or so. I brought my own nursing uniform and sexy outfit for this one. We decided to grab a bite to eat and Outback steakhouse it was (steak and a few drinks). While back in my room she did change into the sexy outfit. The panties did have an opening so the. Pussyarea was showing so I started to eat her pussy. Fucked her from behind with curtains wrapped aside, viewing the Glorietta5 mall from my window. If someone saw this will remains unknown. Changed outfit into nursing and she did take good care of me in everyway possible. I put some strawbeery jam on her ass and ate it hard. No wonder she spend the hole night and did not leave until late Sunday evening. I gave her chocolate and 5k (my choice as usual but a session out of the ordinary so well spend donation).

Sunday eve I met this japaneese / phil tall girl (almost 170) at Tony Ramos. After chatting and eating we went to Greenbelt as this one did have excluded the possibility to go into my room first date. We sat down at Spicey Fingers and had some nachos and margaritas. Walking past Havanna it looked seemingly busy as well. She did not make any comments from The Havanna passing so I kept my mouth shut as well, hehe. She was 36 years old and a bit mature lady knowing what she wanted. After drinking a few she started to get drunk and she asked if we could go back to my hotel (beeingw ay passed midnight). I thought this was easy but back at my hotel we did go through some kissing program and no matter how hard I tried her pussy area was closed. If I did repeat she promised me her to open up a tad more (so we will see)

So far I have not been able to slow as much down as I was supposed to. But now I have fever and every bone in my body feels like aching so maby Tuesday will be a non alcoholic pussy day and a day suitable for visiting my newborn. My babygirl probably does not care but from my own selfish reasons it would be nice to see her even so.

Just my observations so far. Happy mongergames.

LukeSkywalker

01-21-14, 06:55

Hi Skogies,

Sounds like you had lots of fun, a very good report.

I would love to repeat your experience. Would be fun. I want to stay in Makati near P Burgos for dates and bar girls.

What dating sites did you use? How did you screen the girls and set up your dates?

Please share some secrets for your success.

From Friday 17 until today I have lived at my favorite place In Makati. I thought maby I would slow down a tad, girlwice, but them girls seems to keep coming with a very high precentage of positive replays when sending them a text. Since I use earlier datingsitecontacts only this time ofcourse a few of them have

So far I have not been able to slow as much down as I was supposed to. But now I have fever and every bone in my body feels like aching so maby Tuesday will be a non alcoholic pussy day and a day suitable for visiting my newborn. My babygirl probably does not care but from my own selfish reasons it would be nice to see her even so.

Just my observations so far. Happy mongergames.

FreebieFan

01-21-14, 07:47

. So far so good and unlike Freebiefans experience (great report by the way in Manila thread, seems to kept you busy for a while, hehe) , I have been the one beeing late for some of my dates. Around 30 minutes one girl was late but thats it. I underline strongly they should leave realy early for not beeing late.

Early Friday afternoon met up with this 18 year old spinner

Outside the Glorietta 4 entrance,

So far I have not been able to slow as much down as I was supposed to. But now I have fever and every bone in my body feels like aching.Great report as always Mr Skogis. Seems we had a very similar Manila marathon.

I met one of mine directly outside Glorietta 4 entrance. On Friday afternoon mine was 19 not 18 LOL

I found many of the number I had for girls were also out of date.

And I had a really bad fever for a few hours too.

Enjoy Manila!

Hutsori

01-21-14, 08:01

Around midnight eve I was texting one girl I have never met before and she replied very fast and only 15 minutes later she showed up. She did not want to admit anything but I presume she had to be located around Greenbeltarea or sth. 165cm. 21yrs and 45kg. A spinster body and tetas looking like bolt ons but I can not find any scars and she tells them are real. Claims to have been modeling back at Palawan. She spend the night and we had a few sessions without me beeing able to ejac until early morning. Send her off with 3000piso as she smells of beeing some sort of semi pro (or more) girl.Poor girl. Only 21... yet a spinster. ;)

Your girls ever get offended when you don't ejaculate? Many of the ones I hang out with certainly do; there's just some nights I'm utterly drained and shooting blanks. It's like they see it as a sign of success; her reward, so to speak. Good girls. Anyway, take some vitamins with 50mg of zinc to better your loads, if you're not doing so already.

Member #4387

01-21-14, 08:58

What dating sites did you use? How did you screen the girls and set up your dates?

Please share some secrets for your success.Hm mostly these girls are hanging from my earlier use of Pinalove and a few from FC (over 1 year since I used that one).

Normaly I fire up a profile approx 2 weeks before entering Phils. That is more than enough time to establish a great number of girls and not enough time for the girls to get tired (a lot of gays like us contact these girls you know without any intention of ever visit here).

Screening itself is easy enough and I am lucky as also quite a few of them contact me (from some reason). I write a kind of hardish profile leaving stating I am not looking for Longtime relationship. I also state I am NOT God fearing (as I get tired from this saying, hehe) , I say I never send money and I am only looking for fun (the fun word many don't get but some of them does not even understand the word adultfun so no big differ realy). I write not as hard as it scares girls away. A good mix of normal girls and obviously semi pros gets into my portifolia. I like them a bit tall and slim so that is my main targets. I have far to many than I will ever be able to meet. I screen them quickly through live webcam as well (mostly).

I narrow down searching to Manila girls as I don't travel at all in Phils.

I read and read many people find datingsites a waste of time. I think oposite, I fint it rewarding and not atleast fun as I have time sitting in my office to comp with this. There are no exact answer to why atleast I feel successful in the use of datingsites. And the nice thing is like now as I can harvest the girls from earlier use of datingsites.

I met one of mine directly outside Glorietta 4 entrance. On Friday afternoon mine was 19 not 18 LOL

Well I don't remember exact the time but I walking inside to the Mark and Spenser to buy some wine (4 or 5 ish) maby. To the right as I walked inside (looking towards the GL4 entrance) I saw a nice beautiful girl leaning towards the wall obviously waiting for something / someone (I believe she had jeans but don't know if I remember correctly). Was that yours, hehe?
Your girls ever get offended when you don't ejaculate? Many of the ones I hang out with certainly do; there's just some nights I'm utterly drained and shooting blanks. It's like they see it as a sign of success; her reward, so to speak. Good girls. Anyway, take some vitamins with 50mg of zinc to better your loads, if you're not doing so already.Hehe that is a mighty good observation and yes I feel sometimes when I have hard time coming some girls put in a lot of extra work to make me come. It is highly appreciated from my point of view. But dealing with more or less pro girls, atleast the less pro girls or even worse the regular girls sometimes simply have not enough exp to use their pussy correctly. But as long as they try their best we can not demand more than that, agreed?

Zinc is noted and needed.

Red Kilt

01-21-14, 12:18

. SNIP.

There are no exact answer to why atleast I feel successful in the use of datingsites. And the nice thing is like now as I can harvest the girls from earlier use of datingsites.

. SNIPLet me be bold enough to suggest a very simple answer why you have such success here Skogis; I think it is why guys asking you for tips will probably luck out unless they resemble you in a genetic sense.

You are fair-skinned, blue-eyed and fair headed, with your Scandinavian features very prominently noticed by EVERY woman on ANY dating sites.

Most filipinas wet themselves over the fair-haired and the blue eyes.

I would guess that women literally throw themselves at you. I have had many discussions with filipinas about their "Ideal man" and your physical attributes fit their desires very well.

Tell me if I am wrong.

Zeppelin029

01-21-14, 13:46

Let me be bold enough to suggest a very simple answer why you have such success here Skogis; I think it is why guys asking you for tips will probably luck out unless they resemble you in a genetic sense.

You are fair-skinned, blue-eyed and fair headed, with your Scandinavian features very prominently noticed by EVERY woman on ANY dating sites.

Most filipinas wet themselves over the fair-haired and the blue eyes.

I would guess that women literally throw themselves at you. I have had many discussions with filipinas about their "Ideal man" and your physical attributes fit their desires very well.

Tell me if I am wrong.It's a very fair point.

Now I'm young, above average looking, but only get a low-moderate amount of attention or responses on say DIA. My issue? As I can tell it's because I'm of Asian extract. Never mind that more than enough Pinays find me "gwapo" and am clearly from a Western country. Doesn't seem to help get them to spread their legs, the ones that do start talking to me invariably ask if I'm Filipino at some pont (not in the slightest)

I have tried putting my ethnicity as "mixed" to see if I get more hits.

I actually am considering removing my pic and just stating where I'm from and seeing what happens. I remember one member mentioning how his friend has no pic and his inbox was overwhelmed with messages.

WestCoast1

01-21-14, 15:47

Your girls ever get offended when you don't ejaculate? Many of the ones I hang out with certainly do; there's just some nights I'm utterly drained and shooting blanks. It's like they see it as a sign of success; her reward, so to speak. Good girls.Yes, many. Sometimes they feel their pussy with a finger and look at it, then ask if I finished. They ask if I'm OK when I say that I did not finish, even after I say everything is fine. For those girls, there seems to be a desire that I "feeneesh-ed". They seem concerned, or let down somehow. OTOH, many girls don't want me to cum in their pussy at all (fear of preggers).

Most filipinas wet themselves over the fair-haired and the blue eyes.

I would guess that women literally throw themselves at you. I have had many discussions with filipinas about their "Ideal man" and your physical attributes fit their desires very well.

Tell me if I am wrong.You are not wrong. I get a lot more responses from pinay when I use a pic (blond / blue). There are a lot of looks in public (but I can't tell if that would be different if I were dark hair / eyes). Can't tell you how many SYT's that I've awoken next to who were already awake, staring at my face."I want you skin. You give to me." Or,"I want you eyes." And,"I want you baby haha." Some girls will use a camera to get an arms-length shot of our faces together (have ended up on a few social networking sites that way, and shy away from it now if its not my camera). I was chatting a girl in CDO online on cam, and was contacted by an older woman out of the blue during the conversation. She explained that she knows the girl I'm chatting with, walked behind her in the cafe and saw me on cam, memorized my YM from looking at the younger girl's screen, and added me up. Later, in another conversation, she asked if I'd sleep with her to make a baby (she has an adopted child and wants one of her own) , and said that was the only reason she'd contacted me. She was fine with me being with the younger girl, but wanted me for my time between sessions with the younger girl. Blond can be a kind of rock-star status (not always).

Slippery

01-21-14, 16:36

I also have blue eyes and can't count the number of times pinay and hispanic girls have asked me "please give me baby with blue eyes."

Red Kilt

01-22-14, 03:15

Given the level of support for my theory about the unrestrained success of our active Viking friend Skogis, maybe some of our more desperate members will try to up the ante by getting themselves fitted with blue contact lenses.

I must say that I dislike seeing filipinas with these tinted lenses although it certainly makes them look very different (like something from the Twilight Saga).

Slippery

01-22-14, 03:56

given the level of support for my theory about the unrestrained success of our active viking friend skogis, maybe some of our more desperate members will try to up the ante by getting themselves fitted with blue contact lenses.

i must say that i dislike seeing filipinas with these tinted lenses although it certainly makes them look very different (like something from the twilight saga).notwithstanding my blue eyes, i am more appropriately fitted for a toupee.

GoodEnough

01-22-14, 04:34

Hutsori

01-22-14, 04:39

Yes, many. Sometimes they feel their pussy with a finger and look at it, then ask if I finished. They ask if I'm OK when I say that I did not finish, even after I say everything is fine. For those girls, there seems to be a desire that I "feeneesh-ed". They seem concerned, or let down somehow. OTOH, many girls don't want me to cum in their pussy at all (fear of preggers).

You are not wrong. I get a lot more responses from pinay when I use a pic (blond / blue). There are a lot of looks in public (but I can't tell if that would be different if I were dark hair / eyes). Can't tell you how many SYT's that I've awoken next to who were already awake, staring at my face."I want you skin. You give to me." Or,"I want you eyes." And,"I want you baby haha." Some girls will use a camera to get an arms-length shot of our faces together (have ended up on a few social networking sites that way, and shy away from it now if its not my camera).Usually I spooge on her rather than in her, so it's tough to hide a blank - have been scolded for "holding it" from her. The only exception to where my soldiers land being those I meet often, who give me permission to do so, and I know their cycles. The first 9 days after menses finishes tend to be the safest, and yes, I know it's imperfect.

The blonde-haired blue-eyed look is highly desired, but what really gets many girls wet is height, especially over 188cm / 6'2". And if you're over 193cm / 6'4", blonde haired, blue eyed... Good heavens! When she sees you in the mall she'll soon be standing over a puddle of her own juices. Since I'm 180cm / 5'11" (huhuhu) I usually tell the girl the extreme height disparity (her 157cm / 5'2", him 193cm / 6'4") is often found at the circus - sorry for the cock block, Mr Goliath. I prefer a girl from 165cm / 5'5" to 175cm / 5'9"; I tell her it's more romantic to easily stare her in her eyes when we're dancing. Ain't that sweet?

Re photos. I constantly learn of girls photoing me whilst I'm asleep. Jeez, I really don't like that.

I also have blue eyes and can't count the number of times pinay and hispanic girls have asked me "please give me baby with blue eyes."I have green eyes, a bit darker than emerald, and so many Pinays make the similar comment. I can almost hear her dreams shatter when I tell her that it's practically impossible genetically.

Hutsori

01-22-14, 04:53

I haven't checked my undergraduate Genetics textbook in decades, but I seem to remember that the blue eyes trait is a recessive gene. So assuming that Mendel was correct, that would mean both parents much have the gene in order to establish the possibility of having a blue-eyed baby. Guess genetics isn't studied much in the public school system here.

GECorrect, sir. I reckon the primary way it'll happen with a Pinay-born kid is if momma has a bit of Spanish blood in her. Other Caucasians too, so impregnate a Jaworski or a Gordon. Better $till... a Zobel.

Hutsori

01-22-14, 05:07

Given the level of support for my theory about the unrestrained success of our active Viking friend Skogis, maybe some of our more desperate members will try to up the ante by getting themselves fitted with blue contact lenses.Bleach your hair too. And do they make elevator flipflops?

I must say that I dislike seeing filipinas with these tinted lenses although it certainly makes them look very different (like something from the Twilight Saga).Other worldly. I'm likely wrong and unfair but when I see that here the first thing that comes to mind is "bar girl".

Hutsori

01-22-14, 06:16

It's a very fair point.

Now I'm young, above average looking, but only get a low-moderate amount of attention or responses on say DIA. My issue? As I can tell it's because I'm of Asian extract. Never mind that more than enough Pinays find me "gwapo" and am clearly from a Western country. Doesn't seem to help get them to spread their legs, the ones that do start talking to me invariably ask if I'm Filipino at some pont (not in the slightest)

I have tried putting my ethnicity as "mixed" to see if I get more hits.

I actually am considering removing my pic and just stating where I'm from and seeing what happens. I remember one member mentioning how his friend has no pic and his inbox was overwhelmed with messages.I think the no-photo strategy is ineffective. I constantly see no-photo no-reply in their profiles. Then again I read "not for fun" too, but many are. Often, if not always, a search result can be limited to only those profiles with photos.

In my condo I've watched many girls work the dating sites, and they always check show-only-results-with-photo search option. I've never see them specify country or race. Then they start looking at the photos and clicking the ones they like, i.e. attractive enough, to give the profile a read. Messages received from undesirable guys aren't read.

For the "are you Filipino?" Rightly or wrongly many girls don't want to date a local. Since there are many looks to a Filipino, more so than Japanese or Korean, the girl is likely going to ask the are-you-Filipino question if you're Asian. Moreover I've been told some Filipino guys use photos of East Asians.

For "above average looking". Research shows that males overstate their attractiveness and females do the opposite. Don't rely on your momma or your sister for an objective evaluation. Before I upload a photo to my dating-site profile I audition it on a hot-or-not website. Use the photos that have received the best scores.

Keep in mind there is a pecking order, sadly. Actually I'm not sad about it at all; it works for me. Sorry.

1) Really hot guys of any race, except perhaps for blacks. I hear a lot a negative comments about them.
2) Whites and Hispanics (especially who aren't old)
3) East Asians (Japanese and Korean)
4) SE Asians (minus locals) and Chinese.
5) Indians and Arabs.
6) Blacks.

Of course the above is a sweeping generalisation. No offense is intended.

FreebieFan

01-22-14, 07:15

[QUOTE=Red Kilt; 1522366]Given the level of support for my theory about the unrestrained success of our active Viking friend Skogis, maybe some of our more desperate members will try to up the ante by getting themselves fitted with blue contact lenses.

I QUOTE]

Whereas some of us are just naturally blessed with those oh so attractive baby blues. Although after a few late nights and too much Red Horse, gray is the more predominant colour these days "

In China the blue effect has no effect. Sadly.

WestCoast1

01-22-14, 07:36

I have green eyes, a bit darker than emerald, and so many Pinays make the similar comment. I can almost hear her dreams shatter when I tell her that it's practically impossible genetically.You were doing great with the spooging bit. But you're breaking the bro code here mentioning 'genetically impossible'. I prefer "hot damn hun that'd be a gwapito baby!" Never, never mention genetics. Word will get out, and there goes my rock star status in Cebu. Dammit where's my coffee?

Member #4387

01-22-14, 07:49

I have taken up on the moment of our small genetic debate inside here and noticed my newborn babygirl have quite so lightbrown eyes with some darkgreen in them (beeing new to this game will they change, hehe?). Maby also to early to tell but mother is allready happy she does not have a pinay nose and got mine. But black hair and brown / black eyes seems to be dominant over my features eye and hairwice (beeing blonde).

I will also throw into the blue eyes debate my eyes are of the strange combination somewhat blue / grey / greene (but mostly red these days).

Hutsori

01-22-14, 08:25

But you're breaking the bro code here mentioning 'genetically impossible'.Heavens! Again?!?

I prefer "hot damn hun that'd be a gwapito baby!" Never, never mention genetics.Alrighty, but I don't wish to tempt fate.

Word will get out, and there goes my rock star status in Cebu. Dammit where's my coffee?I'll tell 'em blue can be passed, but not green. Too recessive. Fair enough?

Hutsori

01-22-14, 08:30

my newborn babygirl have quite so lightbrown eyes with some darkgreen in them
If momma has some Spanish in her blood your daughter may end up with hazel eyes.

Maby also to early to tell but mother is allready happy she does not have a pinay nose and got mine.They really have a complex about their noses, haven't they?

Cunning Stunt

01-22-14, 08:31

I must say that I dislike seeing filipinas with these tinted lenses although it certainly makes them look very different (like something from the Twilight Saga).Really. I think that on an attractive Filipina they can look rather sexy. But, then again, I'm the weirdo who likes my Pinays in blonde pigtails. Now that does look like something from the Twilight Saga..lol.

Red Kilt

01-22-14, 08:55

Really. I think that on an attractive Filipina they can look rather sexy. But, then again, I'm the weirdo who likes my Pinays in blonde pigtails. Now that does look like something from the Twilight Saga.lol.As I said earlier; they look different and a bit other worldly (as Huts said) and as CS's picture proves. CS' girl sure looks like a neck biter.

Whether it is sexy or attractive or weird is one's own opinion but I when I see the colored tints in the pics on various dating sites I definitely think that this girl could be up for ANYTHING and has probably been everywhere.

I met a girl last year who was incredibly poor and I could tell she was struggling but she had the colored lenses.

They must have been obtained from an earlier donation for services rendered no doubt and a decision was made with cash in hand that having blue eyes was a better investment than food or clothes. For her, it was the wrong decision LOL.

Pip Jaeger

01-22-14, 13:55

A baby's eye color is nothing more than a matter of simple Pinay math (similar to redneck math where I come from). I carry the recessive gene so, depending on the girl and her ancestry, I use one of two scientifically proven mathematical formulas to explain it to them:

Formula #1 (both partners with recessive blue-eye gene) : 25 x 4 = 100;"Honey, there's only a 25% chance you'd have a blue eyed baby, so that means I have to sex you 4 times to make it 100. Now get naked, bend over and let's get started".

Formula #2 (only one partner with recessive blue-eye gene) : 1 x 100 = 100;"Honey, there's only a 1% chance you'd have a blue eyed baby, so that means I have to sex you 100 times to make it 100. Now get naked, bend over and let's get started".

Zeppelin029

01-22-14, 14:24

I think the no-photo strategy is ineffective. I constantly see no-photo no-reply in their profiles. Then again I read "not for fun" too, but many are. Often, if not always, a search result can be limited to only those profiles with photos.

In my condo I've watched many girls work the dating sites, and they always check show-only-results-with-photo search option. I've never see them specify country or race. Then they start looking at the photos and clicking the ones they like, I. E. Attractive enough, to give the profile a read. Messages received from undesirable guys aren't read.

For the "are you Filipino?" Rightly or wrongly many girls don't want to date a local. Since there are many looks to a Filipino, more so than Japanese or Korean, the girl is likely going to ask the are-you-Filipino question if you're Asian. Moreover I've been told some Filipino guys use photos of East Asians.

For "above average looking". Research shows that males overstate their attractiveness and females do the opposite. Don't rely on your momma or your sister for an objective evaluation. Before I upload a photo to my dating-site profile I audition it on a hot-or-not website. Use the photos that have received the best scores.

Keep in mind there is a pecking order, sadly. Actually I'm not sad about it at all; it works for me. Sorry.

1) Really hot guys of any race, except perhaps for blacks. I hear a lot a negative comments about them.

2) Whites and Hispanics (especially who aren't old)

3) East Asians (Japanese and Korean)

4) SE Asians (minus locals) and Chinese.

5) Indians and Arabs.

6) Blacks.

Of course the above is a sweeping generalisation. No offense is intended.The above average comes from them, not me. Haha.

Either way, I do need to sharpen my game if I want to seriously make inroads. Guessed I did it a bit half-arsed last time and didn't get anywhere. And as I have no Immediate plans to return I'm not in any real push to do well. Maybe for academic sake. Haha.

Admittedly, on the local dating sites at home I've bumped up my activity exponentially and am getting much more success than before in terms of talking to people. Just goes to show you only get out what you out in.

Do have some other questions, but I'll post I'm the chat room thread when I have time.

No offence taken! I know there's a pecking order, just trying to succeed in my own little way.

WestCoast1

01-22-14, 15:15

I'll tell 'em blue can be passed, but not green. Too recessive. Fair enough?More than fair.

And to uncomplicate matters, lets tell them that for any one of my traights, the genetics / math thing works out to: the harder you f*ck / s*ck, the more likely your baby will have the traight. I like Pip's math.

Cunning Stunt

01-22-14, 15:47

As I said earlier; they look different and a bit other worldly (as Huts said) and as CS's picture proves. CS' girl sure looks like a neck biter.

Whether it is sexy or attractive or weird is one's own opinion but I when I see the colored tints in the pics on various dating sites I definitely think that this girl could be up for ANYTHING and has probably been everywhere.

I met a girl last year who was incredibly poor and I could tell she was struggling but she had the colored lenses.

They must have been obtained from an earlier donation for services rendered no doubt and a decision was made with cash in hand that having blue eyes was a better investment than food or clothes. For her, it was the wrong decision LOL.Don't know about her being a neck biter but she could just about suck a golf ball through a straw so probably would make an excellent vampire. Funny how we have our own inbuilt little prejudices about what make a woman seem wanton in one persons eyes but not another. I would never associate eye colour, either natural or artificial, with degree of 'tartiness'. But what does get me thinking 'slag' is big tats, particularly those of the tramp stamp variety etched on the lower back. Guess that I'm just an old fashioned fuddy-duddy but, to me, it is like graffiti on a temple wall.

Wicked Roger

01-22-14, 16:03

Really. I think that on an attractive Filipina they can look rather sexy. But, then again, I'm the weirdo who likes my Pinays in blonde pigtails. Now that does look like something from the Twilight Saga.lol.I have had many girls and still do who insist on having lenses for colour, some, like violet! (don't ask me!). Blue is the favourite and match my eyes (and PGs maths are correct but I would add in bonus shags just in case it did not work etc. Contingency Pip)

But the lenses do cost a lot (I have bought some for a cutie before) so as RK says, someone has cash to burn in some respects and not give to her baby, family first etc.

I am not fussed what the eye colour is as long as the rest of her is slim and cute. As for pinays in blonde pigtails CS. Well I like them in PVC and leather plus assorted extras as the photos testify, so not weird just normal horny monger

And yes. The girls want a western nose and worse, a western lady ass. I have told many that the reason why I am with them is precisely because they don't have a huge melon or pumpkin hanging from their back side. I prefer a peach LOL.

Slippery

01-22-14, 17:22

They must have been obtained from an earlier donation for services rendered no doubt and a decision was made with cash in hand that having blue eyes was a better investment than food or clothes. For her, it was the wrong decision LOL.The difference between donated contact lenses and a donated phone is you can't pawn the contact lenses.

Mickey Race

01-22-14, 18:36

Had a week in Burgos, imagining with wedding plans this year I'd have the last chance, at least for a while, to get a three in a bed shag. Fucking hell though, Burgos, as reflected by a previous poster has lost its mojo. Went into Tickles with a couple of Pinoy friends, on a Saturday night at around 1am, and there were hardly any punters (same in Jungle and Dimples) in there and we were descended on by squeaking girls inviting me to touch their vaginas. Great, we thought, until they started bamboozling us with the illegible drinks bills, trying to separate us etc. It really was a bit too much. Two chicks were on me really aggressively pulling my dick out in the bar and sucking it (a bit too awkward in front of my friends). Anyway I enquired about prices and the chicks wanted 3, 000 pesos each and the bar fine was 3, 750. A grand total of 1350 pesos for this experience. I decided to arrange it for the following day, but just was so intimidated by the experience that I just couldn't face it even though I had one of these chicks' number.

Invited a couple of massage girls back, not like it was a couple of years back, where they would give you a real massage and invite you into further services with teasing, ball tickling etc. This time,"okay sir I do extra service how much you pay me?" Price agreed, then constant hustling for more on already agreed terms, lousy massage over in ten minutes (one of them was from that spa just kitty corner from the handlebar). Twice that happened. Left my bed covered in fucking baby oil for no reason. I'm not staying here again.

Finally, just wanting to get off, though increasingly turned off by the whole environment I looked on here and saw a report about the Bellagio Spa just near the clipper hotel. Mingy, grubby place. Got a bit of a moose who gave a lame massage and then started tugging at my dick like she was trying to unblock a sink. Asked her to stop, it was that bed. Blotted off the thick layer of baby oil on my body and jogged on. Embarrassed and irritated.

To top it all I wanted to get an actual aromatherapy massage, in a real spa so I went to a place in the Korean street opposite Burgos. Fuck. No time at all before she quietly whispered in my ear 'hand job sir? ' I Said for fuck sake no. She begged me,"please sir, only 500" like its a charitable act on my part, so I reluctantly agreed, and she starts hustling for more!"500 more and you can touch my boobs" I fucking lost it, told her to leave and I got dressed.

In summary, where one might think that hard times on Burgos might bring some better deals, it has made things unbearable there, you simply can't relax, agree a price and pay it, job done. Their primitive solution is to charge more, hustle more, to compensate for the slow business. Burgos is dead in my view.

LukeSkywalker

01-23-14, 02:37

Slippery

01-23-14, 03:40

Sounds like Luke and Mick have'nt been hanging around the right places. For Mick, go to Burgos with 10, 000 and you'll leave with cab fare if you are careful. As per Luke, where are you finding these? Yikes!

Dg8787

01-23-14, 03:50

Pinays are always asking for tips in advance, like you owe them. They [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off.

I think lots of guys just give them what they want, so they think they entitle to tips before they even do anything for you.

When anyone hassles me for tips, I will straighten them out, and refuse to give. If enough people do it, they may learn how to behave.I don't think it has happened to me. If it did it didn't bother me. I tell them up front what tips can be had or earned. I think the girls have been burned by the cheap Charlies so many or every time that they ask up front! As they say in Merica, if you don't like it here, you can always leave!

Red Kilt

01-23-14, 05:01

The difference between donated contact lenses and a donated phone is you can't pawn the contact lenses.Don't bet on it Slipp.

I wouldn't be too surprised if some pawnshop somewhere in the Phils has got a set of blue contact lenses that were turned in for some ready cash.

Tally Wacker

01-23-14, 05:17

Haha exactly. My gf wanted a new pair of eye glasses even though her current ones were nice and worked just fine. She got the new pair and I suggested she keep the old ones as a spare. Her reply was that she gave them to her sister because she liked them.

Don't bet on it Slipp.

I wouldn't be too surprised if some pawnshop somewhere in the Phils has got a set of blue contact lenses that were turned in for some ready cash.

FLT09

01-23-14, 13:54

Member #4387

01-23-14, 15:07

Did have a quite slow Monday, recoveryday with raising fever and bone and cockaching, from a quite hard sexspree lately. It seems my new tactic NOT doing any datingsite work infront of my trip only resulted in even more girls as I have quite a large portifolia with girls from earlier work, well well. It is fun though and so rewarding in many ways.

Tuesday I felt good again so I worked through my listing of girls and what popped up was a girl I totaly forgot, claiming to work at the Glorietta 5 mall (must have been somewhat a year and a half since I worked this contact). I passed on a text and she replied she would do some work herself (I actually don't know what that work consisted of). Most important she replied not long after she could stop by after her work grabbing a pizza at Pizzahut. She showed up 5 min early to our 6:30pm appointment. I did not have a pic of her, but in my comments next to her name I did infact grade her 8 to 9, and that was true. She had now reached the age of 27, a tad short 155 but had a very fit figure without any signs of a Jollibee tummy. She was in the beginning a bit reserved as she did not like the fact I did not contact her when we infact did communicate (can not blame her) , I had to invent some laim excuse I was not able to go that time as planned and I just thought it was the best for her sake I left her alone. If she bought it I don't know but after dinner she joined me in my room anyway so what the fuck.

One thing I picked up early from you seasoned mongerer contributing and sharing in this forum is to allways keep our small gifts we all know pinays like so much in our room. I am ofcourse talking about chocolate. She took the bate and we heading for the room. Her mood was far better after pizza than before. I was not sure this was going to be a success even entering my room but after making her comfortable in the sofa with a chilled glass of white wine (and the chocolate on the table) , I asked if I could kiss her. When I got the thumbs up there was no way back and one thing led to another.

Funny thing about this chica was she was consistingly stating "I am shy, I am shy". I had to stop a few times calming her down but I could feel she was wet and excited at the same time. So I stack my willy inside her and while giving her my best effort she kept going on with the "I am shy" comment. I have heard comments like this before while undressing or they want the room in total darkness but this one did not require any darkness so I guess this had to be somewhat for her a fraise just to comfort herself. She did not put in any resistance whatsoever as believe me I would have stopped instantly. I got my answer right after this thought entered my mind as she told me "I am shy but fuck me". That made me atleast calm down.

It was a multipleposition program we ran through and I had managed to build up some load again so she got that one donated as in a variation of COB / COF. Then she had to run back to her mother and her son as she was allready running late. By the way this one had a bikini see section almost unvisible. It is more fun in the Philippines, I am aware of that, but are there actually something called a bikini see section? I barly saw it and rightfully if that was it a bikini would cover it and beachlife can continue. Chocolate, pizza and 1000piso (travelmoney) was all it took.

Later that night I just had to call the korean girl from ZZYXZ (earlier report in Manila thread) even if I had promised myself not to do so as that might would fuck up my feelings (if any left). She spend the night, we did a few tequila shots, watched a bit "Two and a half men", laughed and fucked. Around 6 she left for work.

Wednesday I felt uneased and a bit tired of Manila / Makati / pinays (10 days is enough). I told the mother to my firstborn I had to go to do some business in Hong Kong so I booked a flight to Bangkok. Not that I have to lie to her as she knows my situation by now but I don't want to stand forward as the mongerer I am (atleast not openly). But before I left I managed to book in a very nice girl arriving from Bali late Wednesday night. She did arrive with all her luggage straight from the airport creating quite some comotion by the piccolo and security staff at the Ascott, hehe. They thought obviously my wife or sth arrived as they seen me come and go by quite a few girls the latest days. I trust them not to tell anything. We had a few nice romps during the night and at 10am me and her left together (me to airport and she to her office at Legaspy str or sth).

Beeing in BKK at the moment, maby I will create some reports from here as well but then Thai thread will be more appropiate. In short from spending a few hours here: haven't seen anything unusal (demonstrationwice) , only less trappic (pinay way) and people. Girlwice I will find out later. I will keep this BKK spree down to earth and nothing fancy (I like the combo of hi so mongering down to from where it all started Beergarden).

Ira Johnson

01-25-14, 08:08

Was just informed by my Chinese wife that she wants a 3-way with a Pinay while we are in Makati tomorrow night. Of course I am happy, she's talked about it before but seems really intent on making it happen now.

My Chinese wife and I arrive in Manila tomorrow for a 24 hour stay before we move on to Puerto Princessa and El Nido. We are booked into a simple hotel in Makati, and she got pretty excited when her research showed the presence of Burgos bar street. She's bicurious but has never been with a girl, although she talks about it all the time.

I've read back 12 pages in the forum, and sadly have to run to my next appointment. What I have learned is that Makati is rising in price and decreasing in customer satisfaction, but that FL and freebies can be had as well (Will try WeChat look around, maybe Line or Whatsapp. A little late to put a profile online). She will choose a pretty girl (likely with big boobs, as that's her obsession) and it matters not if it's a WG or freebie. However, the girl MUST be interested in playing with us both, not some of this no G / G interaction threeseome.

Any advice (suggestions of which bars / locations will have the best girls for this specific adventure) or even recommendations of actual girls (PM me) deeply appreciated.

C

Cool Traveler

01-26-14, 01:56

If I can still remember all the genetic classes I took.

Blue eyes is from a double recessive gene. That means both parents have to be blue or the grandparents (not sure). Remember, you can find dark haired blue eyed. Black irish.

Green eyes. A common color with people of mixed heritage, especially EU and North West India (Thank Alexander the Great for that)

Copper / Greenish. Most common color of mix between Polynesian and EU.

My sister in law has green eyes. And Indian.

I am Indian, and yes Indians are at the bottom of the pecking order right above black people. Sorry guys. I think black is just because people are prejudiced here. Indians, same but to top it, I think bad behavior on their part. I have had Pinay's tell me, I am a very nice Indian. But I still get the looks, and the attention I need, especially when I start talking with an American accent and open my wallet. I think being well dressed, decent looking and 6 foot helps.

Skogis I think I saw you at Sticky Fingers last night. You were with another older gentleman maybe?

I have taken up on the moment of our small genetic debate inside here and noticed my newborn babygirl have quite so lightbrown eyes with some darkgreen in them (beeing new to this game will they change, hehe?). Maby also to early to tell but mother is allready happy she does not have a pinay nose and got mine. But black hair and brown / black eyes seems to be dominant over my features eye and hairwice (beeing blonde).

I will also throw into the blue eyes debate my eyes are of the strange combination somewhat blue / grey / greene (but mostly red these days).

Econo Tech

01-26-14, 06:18

Was just informed by my Chinese wife that she wants a 3-way with a Pinay while we are in Makati tomorrow night. Of course I am happy, she's talked about it before but seems really intent on making it happen now.Generally speaking, Pinays consider themselves as brought up with good family values, and 9 out of 10 girls, when you suggest a 3 some with another girl, will say "I am not a dog.". Don't' ask, they of course have no qualms getting pregnant by a trike driver who has no plan to marry her, and then getting another guy to be the father / atm for child's future etc.

Let me touch base and see if I can locate something. No promises.

Hutsori

01-26-14, 21:24

green eyes. a common color with people of mixed heritage, especially eu and north west india (thank alexander the great for that)

copper / greenish. most common color of mix between polynesian and eu.

my sister in law has green eyes. and indian.sparked by girls' questions i researched this topic in the recent past and learnt that approx. 2 per cent of the world's population has green and approx. 8 per cent are blue. today i found this: "the genetics of eye color are complicated. eye color is polygenic. it is determined by multiple genes. the eye color genes include eycl1 (a green / blue eye color gene located on chromosome 19) , eycl2 (a brown eye color gene) and eycl3 (a brown / blue eye color gene located on chromosome 15). there are clearly other genes that influence eye color. the once-held view that blue eye color is a simple recessive trait has been shown to be wrong. the genetics of eye color are so complex that almost any parent-child combination of eye colors can occur. "

everyone who has been through a genetics class hears about blue / brown eye colour, which amounts to pigmented or unpigmented irises. internal light rep001tering in unpigmented irises attenuates the longer wavelengths, showing blue, just as with the sky. the degree of rep001tering is related to the complexity of the iris structure, and determines shade by rep001tered light versus light lost to the black pigmented layer of the interior of the eye.

with pigmented irises, i.e. brown, the colour comes from melanin. complexity varies the shade.

some people have a relatively rare recessive gene which produces a variant of melanin that isn't dark brown; it's red. with this variant, pigmented eyes absorb the short wavelength blue, but still attenuate the long red wavelengths, leaving the middle wavelengths, which show as green.

as for green, blue and also amber all exist on the subcontinent - i've seen all there during my travels, especially in kashmir. the most beautiful eyes i've ever seen belonged to a young amber-eyed nepali woman in kathmandu.

i am indian, and yes indians are at the bottom of the pecking order right above black people. sorry guys. i think black is just because people are prejudiced here. indians, same but to top it, i think bad behavior on their part. i have had pinay's tell me, i am a very nice indian. but i still get the looks, and the attention i need, especially when i start talking with an american accent and open my wallet. i think being well dressed, decent looking and 6 foot helps.despite the order i mentioned i know most anyone can do well for himself here. i think indians could surely rise in the girls' brown eyes if they fully bathe more often and wear deodorant; being malodorous is a common complaint i hear of them, and one that is easily rectified.

Hutsori

01-26-14, 21:36

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Econo Tech

01-27-14, 02:40

Despite the order I mentioned I know most anyone can do well for himself here. I think Indians could surely rise in the girls' brown eyes if they fully bathe more often and wear deodorant; being malodorous is a common complaint I hear of them, and one that is easily rectified.Well, to be honest, the smell thing is a bit of a stretch. The primary reasons Girls steer clear of Indians are too many to count, and smell is possibly last. Other than being spread by Filipinos who work in Dubai / Middle East etc, and see mostly construction workers and the likes. I heard the comment from a girl, who said Indians are smelly, and she was talking about a guy in a bar here in SG, and the guy. Whom I know, is a rich guy, and dresses well, and wears good perfume. Then the girl blurted out that is what heard from her cousin working in Dubai. Well.

Well, most girls (from those who are comfortable to confide in me.) stated the reasons for avoiding Indians are one too many: too many English movies make them think they can just pick a girl 'just like that', or hug / squeeze a girl till she gets bruises, or trying to french kiss the girls as they see. Thinking it is so romantic etc. Etc. Or. Doing stuff which they think is manly. Guys in a group flicking fingers at girls to call them over. And even in Manila, more often you see Indian guys in a gang, and will party as a gang, and heck, share the room also as a gang. Now, I am not saying the Indians who travel are poor- they got money, heck, loads of money, but haven't wisened up to the ways of the world. Like having your own room = better to get a girl to come over.

Well, no offense to Indians, but. Pinays want to be treated lady like. And if you can't do it, stop complaining. LOL.

This is what I heard over and over, from girls who hang around Havana and the likes. And from Girls I see in OT. Singapore, who generally look the other way when an Indian looking guy pass by.

Unfortunately, damage has been done.

So, Cool Traveller: it takes time to break the ice, but if you are patient and gentleman enough, you will be rewarded. Just don't act like a lot of Indians who think money can buy anything. And just be nice, and continue.

Again, a repeated reminder : No offense to Indians, just stating what I know.