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Why did you go to a mall? For the window shopping?
Did she say she was willing to come to hotel before or after she physically met you?
Anyway, you've provided vague info. Was this QC teacher someone you bumped into while mall wandering or did you meet her online and then arrange to meet in a mall?
If you're looking for a sure thing in Makati go to Burgos Street. If you read the forum you'd know this.I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.
Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.
Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.
Cool Traveler
09-04-14, 19:09
I have written a lot about Havana. Just about went through every experience one can go through with proper planning and hunting at Havana. I was there last week, and this one is worth writing about. But first, my first day experience, and followed by what I think, something to tell the rest of you.
First night.
Walked down and got a table. It was past 10 PM, Saturday evening. So, no tables. The guard recognized me, and made a table for me, right in front of the door, so I can look inside and outside. Thing is they (the guards) all know why we are there, and what we are there for. I see some regulars tipping them. I sat ordered my usual adobo kambing or goat stew. I got hooked onto this several years back, and order it every time I am at Havana. Ordered a beer, and saw the roving eyes. Scanning like a destroyer radar antenna. There probably was a 2 to 1 ratio of girls to guys, so plenty to choose from. I always look for something unusual. But first, dinner. I always eat by myself, finish, and then look. This way, you don't have to buy everybody dinner. Took trips to the toilet. Girls standing in line all said Hello, like I was their next door neighbor. Couple of weirdo guys out there that day. And couple of guys, who were too afraid to approach these girls, but desperately wanted them.
Spotted a nice, simply dressed girl. Made eye contact. She smiled. I smiled. Pointed to the chair opposite me. She was there, faster than a fly escaping your fly bat. Asked for the check. And we went. I know. I know. I always say, negotiate first. I was not in the mood, ok. She did ask me, if I had been there before, and I said, yes. Many times. That probably set the stage. Got to the room. Had a nice experience. She was clean, smelled good and soft. Nice breasts, perfectly shaped body. Showered together. She sucked me in the shower, and migrated to the bed. Tried everything and actually ran out of condoms. I sent her off after about 3 hours. Needed sleep. Gave her 2500 and she wanted 500 more. I gave it to her with a hug. It was a nice, clean, satisfying encounter. Got to buy stock in Cialis, or whoever makes them. Those small dose 10 mg yellow pill does wonders to your staying power and actually increases the size of your manly hood.
Second night.
I went a little bit earlier and sat at the Spanish restaurant right next to Havana. They are the ones that give away those gold bricks. Not sure if they are real though. Maybe someone can take a bite into it, and test. Make sure you have a next day appointment with your dentist first. They always have that 2 for 1 beer (you get a gold brick, which you trade in for the 2nd beverage). Had some tapas. Was not going to drink too much. There were 3 girls sitting across from me. They looked seasoned, like a shrimps on a grill with extra salt and pepper on them. Gave me the come hither look and smiled. I smiled back with the "not today" look. Into my second beer, noticed this young, fresh looking girl walk to them. I took notice. She was shy. She did not make eye contact with anyone except her "friends". Looked down to her friend on the grill, and lifted my eyebrow. She understood immediately. After a few Tagalog words, the newbie looked in my direction. Invited her over. She looked in my direction. She came and sat. Got her a beer. She asked if her friends can come and join. Told her, yes. Bought all of them a drink. Cut the story short, ended leaving with her, and her two "barbie" friends. Headed to Intercon. I was pretty embarrassed on the way, as I got quite a few raised eyebrows. When they all wanted to come, I said I will go broke. Their response was, give us anything you want and we will share as we are going to share you.
Experience:
Not sure if anyone had an orgy involving three girls. But it was something else. Mouths all over, just sent me off my rockers. Two latched onto my titties and one to alter ego and so on. Later, one to dick and one to ass. You name it. Just crazy. A lot of noise to a point, I feared, no more Intercon. No more 4 PM late checkout! Holy crap! What am I going to do? I stay here very frequently. Now I wonder if I should show my up there again at Intercon, with a straight face. Crap!
Spent about 2 hours, finished, and sent the two friends home and kept the new girl. The newbie was tight and nice. Ticklish, and shy. All the symptoms of not having been touched too many times by too many people. We had nice repeats, and sent her off. Gave them all 2000 each. Did not want to spoil it by giving a lot of money. They did not complain. Probably will not repeat this again with foursomes. But it was well worth it.
Note: Saw a whole bunch more newbies here at Havana. And rest of Greenbelt 3 was basically worthless. Used to see them at Sticky Fingers, but now all concentrated at Havana, Star Bucks, Seattle's best coffee area.
Cool Traveler
09-04-14, 19:15
I want to say, please read old reports. But I am going to be nice here. Go to Greenbelt 3. Look for a Cafe called Cafe Havana. You will be perfectly fine by yourself. Best bet is after 9 PM, all the way through 2 am. Take your time, and peruse. Find a table in the patio, right in the middle of the patio. You will get surrounded. If you don't find anything, then give up mongering.
Need to get laid this weekend / week in Makati. What do you suggest? This is no Pattaya for sure. Anyway, met a teacher from QC last night at a mall and she was willing to come to my hotel but nothing happened cause she was not "comfortable" after just meeting first time.
Cool Traveler
09-04-14, 19:16
They ask for 5000 because they see it written all over your face. Say no. And say, how about 2000?
I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.
Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.
Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.
I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex. Luckily she did not have a child she said unlike 99% of the other single moms on dating sites. So maybe she could be dated in the long term, was a bit chubby though, not fat but not thin.
Burgos is a big miss too. I was in WW bar, Stardust and finally in PlanB. WW bar very poor girls or the best ones taken, I mean downstairs, I asked to play pool with me but none of the 10 girls willing. So I will never go there again. PlanB was best with one quite good looking girl. Price quoted for each girl bf 2600p and 3000 p for the girl. That makes 5600 pesos what is that, more than a USD 100 in a 3rd world country like this. I still thought it but left because I might not have had enough money anyway (my credit card did not work that day at the ATM). Was not a big loss.
Today I just concentrated on shopping clothes. Girls are a big miss here. Also Cafe Havana in my opinion usually full of uglies or some younger ones asking 5000. You have to be very fast, lucky and active in catching a good one. And then still have to pay.Better FR. Firstly, during your pre-meeting communication with her on the dating site was sex discussed? There's no reason for you to leave your hotel if it wasn't or she was on the fence. Others will disagree with me but I don't even bother to leave my condo to meet them anywhere else; they come to my place and they know why they're coming. Her coming to your hotel room usually indicates she's willing to fuck you, but for whatever reason she flaked out. You didn't provide any detail about what transpired there, so hard to assess with whom the fault lies. Your recent text discussing sex is a good sign because she's responding to you, and "maybe" indicates you haven't turned her off entirely, but in my experience a "maybe" is a polite "no" or a way to get another free meal. If she's willing to meet you again don't meet her any other place than your hotel. If she agrees you ought to be good2go.
I'm sure you read the Makati section already so the Burgos costs should be no surprise. Visit a few bars, have a few drinks, buy a few lady drinks, pay a barfine, then pay the girl and your night can soon be at p8000. I find it odd that no one wanted to play pool with you; a girl who entertains a bloke usually finds herself with at least a drink, and that's money in her pocket. Havana is a well-known FL place though regular girls can be found there. You didn't mention whether you tried to negotiate that p5000 down, or whether it was ST or LT, but it seems to me that was her opening price. Some girls shoot for the heavens and sometimes they find a guy who says "Yes!" immediately.
If you're looking for young, attractive and cheap (or free) then you're going to have to work the dating sites. I think it's a sound investment to join a pay site like Filipinocupid (FC) because you're not competing with the free riders found on dateinasia, pinalove, etc. Working a dating site is more effective than wandering a mall or sitting in Havana or Ermita's LA Cafe waiting for your dream girl to arrive. Of course you can sit in those places and work the dating sites concurrently.
I met her on a dating site then she promised to take a taxi from QC to meet me in Greenbelt mall. After dinner she said ok let's go when I asked if she would like to come to my hotel. I expected this means sex but she wasn't willing in the room because of not feeling comfortable the 1st time. So once again a big miss (paid her taxi 500 p together and a dinner). Now she texted me she has fever and is sick because she got wet last night (outside in the rain, not in the room). So maybe I don't see her again this weekend. She said "maybe" when asked about the next time to have sex.{S N I P} Were you too drunk to sense when and why her attitude changed after dinner?
She has obviously lost interest in you. You even repeat some of her verbal signals like "sick" and "maybe".
Move on. And maybe some of your tactics, techniques and skills need upgrading!
BTW, interesting post that you wrote recently on the Safe Sex in Thailand Forum "Tried boom boom her but with condom too drunk to come so after long thinking I do her BB and then quickly CIP. She angry {SNIP} The girl said I can come see her doctor paper tomorrow, maybe I can but who knows about them, but ok quick forced BB cannot result in HIV can it"?
Went to the new bar Treehouse last night in Makati. Its above Hooters in A. Venue mall.
Very cool place as they have beerpong, fussball and lots of dart boards. Met the Owner and next week the are getting video games that will be free to play, sounds cool. Really great hangout place, but being new had only a few FL's. Not being shy at all I spoke to a group of three and they wanted to make a party of it. Had a few drinks. It was fun but they wanted all three for 6,000. One was to fat for me and ruined the idea. One was hot and the other one "doable". Ended up just playing darts for drinks and left around 2.
All in all a really cool bar that I would recommend 100%. I assume as time goes on more fls will be there but will have to see.
Double Shooter
09-07-14, 16:50
Returned to the most low key of the lot. Wow Wow Wow, and was expertly felated by slim and short Joyce behind the curtain. P1500 to her (and she took it on the face and into her open mouth as asked) and about P2 K in drinks and fees to the bar. Cheap prices too. Club soda for 80, was 120 -150 in other joints.
Am I the only one that thinks dropping a $100 US for a blowjob in a bar is outrageous? Especially when the same thing is available in Thailand, which is a richer country, for $19.He paid PHP 1500 for the BJ. That's about $35. He paid another P2 K to the bar for drinks and stuff, so that's about 80 bucks in total.
When comparing to Thailand, his experience at WWW is more analogous to AfterSkool than to a dedicated BJ bar like SoL. You might pay less or more depending on the exuberance of the occasion!
Hi guys,
Am coming to Makati for work in 2 weeks. I land early on a Monday morning and don't have to go to work till the next day. So I have almost an entire day to sample the wares. Am going to be there for the next 5 days, but with coworkers so will not have as much flexibility. The first day is really on my own and am hoping to make the most of it.
Been RTFF religiously for the past several days but haven't been able to find answers to a couple questions. I promise I looked!
1. What are the best daytime options for finding a LT / GFE? Money is no object. Would love to find a cutie to take back to the hotel and lounge around for the day with. Havana's seems to be a great nighttime option, but can't seem to figure out where to go if starting early. DIA / Filipino cupid seem to be an option but the level of traceability is more than I want to risk.
2. Is a day trip to AC worth doing if I only have 1 day + 4 evenings / nights in Makati?
3. If anyone else is in Makati the week of the 22nd, please hit me up. Would love to venture out with a like minded punter.
Thanks in advance!
Hi guys,
Am coming to Makati for work in 2 weeks. I land early on a Monday morning and don't have to go to work till the next day. So I have almost an entire day to sample the wares. Am going to be there for the next 5 days, but with coworkers so will not have as much flexibility. The first day is really on my own and am hoping to make the most of it.
Been RTFF religiously for the past several days but haven't been able to find answers to a couple questions. I promise I looked!
1. What are the best daytime options for finding a LT / GFE? Money is no object. Would love to find a cutie to take back to the hotel and lounge around for the day with. Havana's seems to be a great nighttime option, but can't seem to figure out where to go if starting early. DIA / Filipino cupid seem to be an option but the level of traceability is more than I want to risk.
2. Is a day trip to AC worth doing if I only have 1 day + 4 evenings / nights in Makati?
Thanks in advance!Early morning arrival makes it awkward. An evening I would say go down to Burgos & rent something suitable (or two or three.).
Since you're time poor & cash rich on a morning arrival then I guess your limited to Escort agency or dating site girls or go down to Pasay to one of the fish bowl places.
I've never patronised the very high priced escort agencies in Manila but others have as it fills a niche need, like yours. Satisfaction varies, some escorts mind blowing, others star fishes. YMMV.
Both myself & Skogis recently posted elsewhere about finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile. We can do it, so can you. If you have any mongering exoerience at all you should be fine. Satisfaction depends on how fussy you are, the girls may not always be top shelf (forrest gumps box of chocolates) but they are fun. You can get lucky & get a super nice one but don't fall in love, they will do their best to grab you.
Anecdotal experience of best dating sites? DIA & PL both produce copious amounts of hottie's for me (according to your particular tastes). Be very careful of DIA, although free, they have implemented automatic filters that instantly kill your account if you say _anything_ that they deem naughty, either in your profile or in your messages to / from girls. I have a nice guy profile & move the conversation to email / I'm etc as soon as possible. I've never been banned but had hottie's I'm chatting to on site get instant ban as soon as they get to naughty talk. Get their contact details asap & move them off the DIA chat system asap.
PL is also prolific for me. There I have a very naughty boy profile. Extremely to the point but tasteful. I get mouth watering honeys that are on the hustle & avoid the husband hunters. Some conservative husband hunters still cintact me, cut their losses & get naughty regardless he he he. I don't recommend the other dating sites for just in time delivery, but YMMV.
Forget AC this trip, 4 hour round trip. You don't have time. On the remaining days dating site+Burgos+Havana will keep your nights very busy.
AV.
AV, thank you so much for the reply.
Early morning arrival makes it awkward. This is what I was afraid of. Wish there were some better flight times!
Since you're time poor & cash rich on a morning arrival then I guess your limited to Escort agency or dating site girls or go down to Pasay to one of the fish bowl places.
I've never patronised the very high priced escort agencies in Manila but others have as it fills a niche need, like yours. Satisfaction varies, some escorts mind blowing, others star fishes. YMMV.Unfortunately been there done that and doesn't do it for me. Maybe part of the attraction is the thrill of going out and picking in person vs. From a "catalog".
Both myself & Skogis recently posted elsewhere about finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile. We can do it, so can you. If you have any mongering exoerience at all you should be fine. Satisfaction depends on how fussy you are, the girls may not always be top shelf (forrest gumps box of chocolates) but they are fun. You can get lucky & get a super nice one but don't fall in love, they will do their best to grab you.Hadn't come across the "guide to finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile" Will go back and search for that!
Anecdotal experience of best dating sites? DIA & PL both produce copious amounts of hottie's for me (according to your particular tastes). Be very careful of DIA, although free, they have implemented automatic filters that instantly kill your account if you say _anything_ that they deem naughty, either in your profile or in your messages to / from girls. I have a nice guy profile & move the conversation to email / I'm etc as soon as possible. I've never been banned but had hottie's I'm chatting to on site get instant ban as soon as they get to naughty talk. Get their contact details asap & move them off the DIA chat system asap.I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!!
Forget AC this trip, 4 hour round trip. You don't have time. Thanks a bunch again!
Hadn't come across the "guide to finding & drilling LBFM'S within hours of putting up a dating site profile" Will go back and search for that!I posted a tongue a tongue in cheek but honest account in the chat rooms forum here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1616262#post1616262.
Skogis posted a lot of FR's in the Makati & Picture forums about his adventures doing dating site girls operating from his base in Makati.
I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!!Yahoo is still huge in the Phils. Get a new one (naughtyzocdoc@yahoo.com?) use it and close it when you're done. Open your dating site profiles, save a copy of the spiel, close the profiles when your done. Very unlikely to show up later as the websites have deleted the pages. Gilrs want to see a clear face pic at least & preferably a body shot. No way to avoid this. Just delete / close the accounts as soon as your done with them. Save contact details of the girls, you will find they remember for years later. A txt / I'm / email next trip will often be answered positively if you wish to see them again.
Thanks a bunch again!Welcome, others will chime in with their opinions / ideas.
AV.
FreebieFan
09-10-14, 04:40
I posted a tongue a tongue in cheek but honest account in the chat rooms forum here: http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals&p=1616262#post1616262.
Yahoo is still huge in the Phils. Get a new one (naughtyzocdoc@yahoo.com?) use it and close it when you're done. Open your dating site profiles, save a copy of the spiel, close the profiles when your done. Very unlikely to show up later as the websites have deleted the pages. Gilrs want to see a clear face pic at least & preferably a body shot. No way to avoid this. Just delete / close the accounts as soon as your done with them. Save contact details of the girls, you will find they remember for years later. A txt / I'm / email next trip will often be answered positively if you wish to see them again.
Welcome, others will chime in with their opinions / ideas.
AV.There also wechat for the look around function that has proved (to me) to be very useful for making an instant Hello, and a meeting and a date later. Theres a few others with a similr look around function whereby you can see a girls pics. The rest as they say, is up to you. Its not hard if you know what to ask and how to phrase it and can't establish some chemistry. Humour works very well!
FreebieFan
09-10-14, 04:43
I just signed up for PinaLove and DIA and Filipino Cupid. The challenge I'm having is getting past the fear of posting my photo and email address and then having it pop up through a google webcrawler search 3 years down the road!!
Thanks a bunch again!Theres pretty much a Golden Rule for the Girls of " No pics No pay or even potential of play" especailly as your time is limited.
Find a pic with a likeness of your own (but don't choose Brad, several of us have his pics LOL) so that you can tell a girl it was an old pic of you.
Pip Jaeger
09-10-14, 11:25
Hi guys,
Am coming to Makati for work in 2 weeks. I land early on a Monday morning and don't have to go to work till the next day.Craigslist MNL (Casual Encounters) is a good option too, lots of pros / semi-pros there; just be careful as lots of lady boys too. It's advisable to meet in a caf first near your hotel to prescreen.
There also wechat for the look around function that has proved (to me) to be very useful for making an instant Hello, and a meeting and a date later. Theres a few others with a similr look around function whereby you can see a girls pics. The rest as they say, is up to you. Its not hard if you know what to ask and how to phrase it and can't establish some chemistry. Humour works verwell!Thanks for the tip on wechat. Just downloaded it. Have also used badoo in the past. Although most of the features seem to work best when you are physically in the area. Hard to start using these to search from another location.
Hi guys!
I too am travelling to PI for a week for work next month and want to be well prepared before I land there. I have been RTFF and have thought of giving the dating sites a try as I enjoy the chase and I have about 20-25 days before I land there. I facing these issues.
1. Tried creating a profile on DIA but the website says that the service is not available in my country.
2. Created a profile on FC and got some e-mails aswell. However I can't read them as I am not a paid member. Do I have to be a paid member I have to contact the girls? Or is this a marketing gimmick by the website.
Are there any work arounds to this? Any suggestions from seniors!
Craigslist MNL (Casual Encounters) is a good option too, lots of pros / semi-pros there; just be careful as lots of lady boys too. It's advisable to meet in a caf first near your hotel to prescreen.Yeah. Definitely pre-screen! I drunkenly arranged for a craigslister to come over to my hotel room at 3 in the morning only for the young lady to be a lad. I gave her some cab fare and sent her away. Told her I was feeling a bit unwell.
Lesson learned!
WestCoast1
09-10-14, 14:10
1. What are the best daytime options for finding a LT / GFE? Money is no object. Would love to find a cutie to take back to the hotel and lounge around for the day with. Havana's seems to be a great nighttime option, but can't seem to figure out where to go if starting early. DIA / Filipino cupid seem to be an option but the level of traceability is more than I want to risk.
I have some info for you via PM when you get PM.
Americans usually spell it Foosball, but I like your spelling just fine. Fussball. Thanks for the bar hop / pub crawl info.
Went to the new bar Treehouse last night in Makati. Its above Hooters in A. Venue mall.
Very cool place as they have beerpong, fussball and lots of dart boards. Met the Owner and next week the are getting video games that will be free to play, sounds cool. Really great hangout place, but being new had only a few FL's. Not being shy at all I spoke to a group of three and they wanted to make a party of it. Had a few drinks. It was fun but they wanted all three for 6,000. One was to fat for me and ruined the idea. One was hot and the other one "doable". Ended up just playing darts for drinks and left around 2.
All in all a really cool bar that I would recommend 100%. I assume as time goes on more fls will be there but will have to see.
Pip Jaeger
09-10-14, 16:28
1. Tried creating a profile on DIA but the website says that the service is not available in my country.Can try using a VPN and showing a different country of origin in your profile info; also be sure to use a different phone number for them to text you the temp password and clear cache, history, etc beforehand. Otherwise wait until you arrive to set it up.
2. Created a profile on FC and got some e-mails aswell. However I can't read them as I am not a paid member. Do I have to be a paid member I have to contact the girls? Or is this a marketing gimmick by the website.
Are there any work arounds to this? Allowing you to browse there and send interests is not a gimmick, just a way of letting you see what's there, guess you can call it an incentive to join. FC is a paid site, and a good one too as it tends to screen out a lot of the keyboard warriors and cheap charlies; plus far fewer LB's there too. No long term work around, some try to add a disguised email address in their profile, but most girls don't even read the profiles and once admin finds out you will be banned. IMHO either pay or go elsewhere, waste of time to try to work around not paying.
Yeah. Definitely pre-screen! I drunkenly arranged for a craigslister to come over to my hotel room at 3 in the morning only for the young lady to be a lad. I gave her some cab fare and sent her away. Told her I was feeling a bit unwell.
Lesson learned!You had enough sense to give the LB a few pesos for a taxi thereby avoiding a potential "scene". No drama, you handled it well, you learned, I applaud you.
Wicked Roger
09-10-14, 23:11
Can try using a VPN and showing a different country of origin in your profile info; From experience DIA would know you are using a VPN and still not let you have access to the site. May have changed as I don't need to use a VPN much nowadays.
Craigslist MNL (Casual Encounters) is a good option too, lots of pros / semi-pros there; just be careful as lots of lady boys too. It's advisable to meet in a caf first near your hotel to prescreen.Haha, great point. I definitely need a crash course in LB detection or should just stray away from places / sites frequented by LBs.
If my last couple Bangkok visits have taught me one thing, it is that my LB detection skills suck. Fortunately I had a wingman who rescued me in both those situations!
Early morning arrival makes it awkward. An evening I would say go down to Burgos & rent something suitable.Some good news on my end. Was able to work the travel and am now arriving Sunday night at 11 pm which I understand is still early by Manila standards! Now the possibilities are wide open.
Back in town for my second visit.
Had chatted up several targets online prior to arrival, so had many possibilities. I wanted one at my hotel room as soon as I got to Makati but it was not to be. A cute young thing that was very keen online was my first target of choice upon arrival in town. Unfortunately I think she lives miles away, and part way to my hotel she realised she forgot her phone and went back for it, ended up being 3 hours late, by which time I just wanted to sleep. However she eventually arrived and while I sat in the chair watching tv with a beer in my hand while she sucked on my knob, all was forgiven.
In the morning she was resistant to wake up sex, so that combined with the previous nights tardiness saw her ushered out the door promptly due to an urgent business call that I suddenly had to make. Gave her 3 k because I think she travelled a long way and I am a bit of a softie sometimes. She is crossed off the list though, if I am paying then I expect my morning blow job.
So being about 7 am and feeling horny and a bit agitated I jumped on Tagged. Sent out 3 messages, and bingo found a call centre girl who had just come off shift and was looking for something to do. Pictures online were quite hot, good size titties for an asian girl. She got right to the point finance wise, and after a bit of offer and counter-offer we settled on 2. 5 k with her departing at lunch time, as I eventually had to go and do some work. An hour later I was sitting in the same chair, watching the same tv, but with a cup of coffee in my hand while comparing the blow job techniques of the two girls. The second one was much better, probably more experienced, and when I told her I was getting close to cumming she said good, she wanted to taste my cum in her mouth. Ding ding ding, we have a winner, she goes straight to the 'would repeat' list. After a bit of a cuddle and rest we went for round 2. I had wondered if she was faking her enjoyment of my sucking on her titties, but when I put my hand between her legs I realised she was into it. So I took her doggie on the bed and it turns out she has a bit of a potty mouth, she kept turning around and saying 'fuck me, fuck me harder' etc etc so of course I obliged.
The inevitable happened and while I was disposing of the condom she started getting dressed and said that it was getting close to the time I need to go to work and I probably wanted some time on my own to get ready. What a good girl. She has had a couple of kids and has a baby pouch, think she said she was 24. I go for service over looks (within reason) so will most likely repeat.
I had been at the hotel less than 12 hours and dropped 3 loads of man goo into girls that came to me via the internet. I love this country.
WestCoast1
09-18-14, 14:51
Slow Internet. Bad roads. Bad sidewalks. Traffic. Smog. People who grew up there, but can't give directions to a building 3 blocks away. Scammers. Pick-pockets. People notoriously late. So many negative "phils-fail" items to complain about, then you see this:
Back in town for my second visit.
SNIP
I had been at the hotel less than 12 hours and dropped 3 loads of man goo into girls that came to me via the internet. I love this country.Makes me miss the place more everyday. Go CeeGee, and go Team-ISG!
So the good news gets even better. In addition to arriving Sunday late evening (but just in time to hit the nightlife), I've been working the dia site religiously. Have about a dozen phone numbers of cuties all wanting to see me next week and more on standby that I've stopped responding to because I just can't keep up.
With almost all of them, the approach has just been about "looking for a friend to hang out with, get some drinks, have a good time". Sex has not been discussed (although almost all their profiles explicitly say they are not interested in sex / fun / being a paid escort) and so neither has money.
Should I be concerned? Is it possible that these girls, some of whom are clearly model quality and were way too easy to convince to get a date / phone number from, are really expecting this to be a romantic / casual (I. E. Sexless) encounter?
If money has not been discussed, there is a possibility that when I text them after landing to finalize plans, they will bring it up. But if they don't, what is the recommended " donation to their college fund " (provided they please)?
To add to my previous post, now I'm also borderline concerned that I've got more girls lined up than nights in Makati. And definitely enough to not leave me time to hit Burgos, Havana cafe, Edsa, etc.
My thinking this fat is that if they're coming to me, and meet my quality standards, why even bother with the nightlife and related barfines! Anybody else think that by skipping the nightlife and just going after the dia ladies, on my virgin Phil trip, that I'm missing out on a "can't miss " phil experience?
After work which included dinner and plenty of beer I got back to the hotel and was going to crash and get a decent night sleep. However the little head took over and next thing I know I was sitting at Havana Cafe watching the wild life. Just one more drink I said to myself as I had not seen anything that I had to have given my balls had been so nicely emptied in the morning. Then I saw a real stunner, so engaged her in some meaningless conversation. She wanted 4 k for the night, I offered 3 k, and she would not budge from her price, nor would I from mine so it was not to be.
By this time I was pretty drunk and next thing I know two cuties are sitting at my table. Not really sure where they came from, one second they were not there, the next they were sitting down giving me their please-fuck-me smiles. The idea of a threesome took my fancy, and they promised all kinds of sexual pleasures, so we agreed to 3 k each for the night and off we (or I) staggered. Bought us all some beer and food at the convenience store next to the hotel and up we went to my room. For some stupid, drunken reason I thought it was a good idea to buy a large bottle of red horse beer, which the girls found greatly amusing. Man that stuff tastes like shit. The rest of the night gets a little blurry but I remember blow jobs in the shower, fucking one girl while the other one sucked my balls, and even a finger slipped up my ass for good measure. Eventually I realised that the ball sucking, ass fingering one had her period so she was making sure she earned her keep while I pumped her friends pussy.
Woke up this morning with a raging hang over boner so started fondling the closest pair of tits I could find. Slipped the panties off the non-period one and slipped my cock into her uncovered. Sure hope I don't come to regret that. The realisation that I had just bare backed a professional cut through the hangover haze like a knife and I went soft and rolled over. At which point the professionals went to work on me and were licking, sucking and fingering me every which way they could.
As they were leaving, period girl said she would be period free in a day or two and she would really like to come back and fuck me senseless. I have her number, and might just call her in a couple of days. Just looked at Tagged and there are about 5 girls that want to come to my hotel and have meaningless, paid sex with me right now. I am exhausted and hung over, and just don't know if I have the energy. I might have another beer and think about it. Have I mentioned that I love this country?
Anybody else think that by skipping the nightlife and just going after the dia ladies, on my virgin Phil trip, that I'm missing out on a "can't miss " phil experience?I've done this in the past and only went to LAC if I had a no-show. Some of the DIAs will flake on you for any reason or no reason so always have a backup plan like LAC or Burgos. I have yet to hit Havana but may give it a try in November with a wing man and his virgin trip to the PI. If you go to Cebu it is also possible to date only DIAs but have the bars, and particularly Silver Dollar, as a back-up. Malls are also a good place to find dates if you have some game. Geez I love the Philippines. So many beautiful, willing young ladies with more new ones on the market with each year that passes. I might never get married. I don't see any advantages to that.
Should I be concerned? Is it possible that these girls, some of whom are clearly model quality and were way too easy to convince to get a date / phone number from, are really expecting this to be a romantic / casual (I. E. Sexless) encounter?
If money has not been discussed, there is a possibility that when I text them after landing to finalize plans, they will bring it up. But if they don't, what is the recommended " donation to their college fund " (provided they please)?My approach has been to try to bring up sex while talking to them online. I told one girl that I could not wait to get her alone and naked in my hotel room. She laughed nervously but got the message. Sure some of them drop off, but that is a good thing. You don't want to waste your time with a husband hunter when all you want to do is shag them.
Some of the girls I talked to were the ones to bring up money, and they usually ask for too much and will lower their price if you make a counter offer.
With almost all of them, the approach has just been about "looking for a friend to hang out with, get some drinks, have a good time". Sex has not been discussed (although almost all their profiles explicitly say they are not interested in sex / fun / being a paid escort) and so neither has money.
Should I be concerned?Yes, you should be concerned. Your approach is conventional dating. Are you looking for a conventional date? That's what you're going to get. You mention time constraint. Why are you doing things to waste your precious time? Very early in the conversation sex should be brought up. Do so politely, tactfully and with a bit of humour.
To add to my previous post, now I'm also borderline concerned that I've got more girls lined up than nights in Makati. And definitely enough to not leave me time to hit Burgos, Havana cafe, Edsa, etc.
My thinking this fat is that if they're coming to me, and meet my quality standards, why even bother with the nightlife and related barfines! Anybody else think that by skipping the nightlife and just going after the dia ladies, on my virgin Phil trip, that I'm missing out on a "can't miss " phil experience?I've found the girls from the dating sites to be much superior in every way. I'm rarely at Burgos, Havana cafe, Edsa, etc. It's nice that they're there as a backup.
WestCoast1
09-20-14, 06:32
For some stupid, drunken reason I thought it was a good idea to buy a large bottle of red horse beer, which the girls found greatly amusing. Man that stuff tastes like shit.I find the provincial girls consider RH the national beverage. Whenever they want more than one beer at once, its always a large RH. If they want one beer at a time it seems its got to be SM / L. RH not only tastes crappy, but I've watched tiny filipina down what I consider large quantities of the stuff in short time (just after a full meal). RH must be some kind of aphrodisiac, as about 30 minutes after polishing off the third bottle, I'm getting laid by beautiful women.
Woke up this morning with a raging hang over boner Dammit, when I drink too much I always wake up with a raging hang-over "limpy". Will PM you.
Yes, you should be concerned. Your approach is conventional dating. Are you looking for a conventional date? That's what you're going to get. You mention time constraint. Why are you doing things to waste your precious time? Very early in the conversation sex should be brought up. Do so politely, tactfully and with a bit of humour.Point taken. Part of it was from reading all the horror stories about getting blocked on DIA, I was gun shy on saying anything suggestive. I guess when I do text / call any of them to "confirm plans", I will bring it up and gauge the reaction.
Some of these are clearly WG's. One in particular (right after my Hello, do you want to meet up) said she was out of town, but to call her friend, and sent me her friends phone #.
Part of it was from reading all the horror stories about getting blocked on DIATo hell with DIA. At first I was devastated when I lost my account, but then I focused more on Tagged which has been very successful for me in the Philippines. This trip that is all I have used online and have more girls wanting to come see me than I can handle.
I also spend a lot of time in Indonesia, and the quality of girls on Tagged there has not been as good as here in the phils in my experience (and the Indo girls are slower to respond), but screw DIA, I do not know if I will bother trying to set up another account there.
Point taken. Part of it was from reading all the horror stories about getting blocked on DIAYou cannot get into sex talk ON THE DIA CHAT SYSTEM. Get their cell / email / IM & canvas the naughty issues there.
AV.
To hell with DIA. At first I was devastated when I lost my account, but then I focused more on Tagged which has been very successful for me in the Philippines. This trip that is all I have used online and have more girls wanting to come see me than I can handle.
I also spend a lot of time in Indonesia, and the quality of girls on Tagged there has not been as good as here in the phils in my experience (and the Indo girls are slower to respond), but screw DIA, I do not know if I will bother trying to set up another account there.I have no idea how you 'work' tagged to focus on your prey. I'm lost on it & I'm not a stupid person. I guess if I ever have enough time I will figure it out but 'm too busy having sex with girls from FC etc.
AV.
Silver Dollar is closed, sad to say. Gecko's has become an interesting alternative to the regular p4 p go go bars.
This is an interesting discussion, but there is a thread dedicated to "chat rooms and pen pals". X.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2479-Chat-Rooms-amp-Pen-Pals
SNIP If you go to Cebu it is also possible to date only DIAs but have the bars, and particularly Silver Dollar, as a back-up. SNIP
Tagged did gave me much better quality talent in Phils than any other site since you see the pictures prior to meeting. BTW, tagged gave me the best ladies from Eastern Europe. Especially Lithuania and Latvia. I can write my own novel if I could.
To hell with DIA. At first I was devastated when I lost my account, but then I focused more on Tagged which has been very successful for me in the Philippines. This trip that is all I have used online and have more girls wanting to come see me than I can handle.
I also spend a lot of time in Indonesia, and the quality of girls on Tagged there has not been as good as here in the phils in my experience (and the Indo girls are slower to respond), but screw DIA, I do not know if I will bother trying to set up another account there.
I have no idea how you 'work' tagged to focus on your prey. I'm lost on it & I'm not a stupid person.It is all about the location settings. Pick a city, or even suburb ala Makati, filter the girls that are shown on your home page to that location and start sending out messages. If they are shown on your home page, they have been active recently and are more likely to respond. The Meet Me function has the same location filtering, play the yes / no game and when you find one from the location you want go to their profile and send them a message. However you cannot control when they were last active this way, so you could end up sending a message to somebody that has not logged in for 3 months, which is why I prefer the home page filtering. Tagged will allow you to send the same message to many more people that DIA did, copy and paste is your friend.
It is all about the location settings. Pick a city, or even suburb ala Makati, filter the girls that are shown on your home page to that location and start sending out messages. If they are shown on your home page, they have been active recently and are more likely to respond. The Meet Me function has the same location filtering, play the yes / no game and when you find one from the location you want go to their profile and send them a message. However you cannot control when they were last active this way, so you could end up sending a message to somebody that has not logged in for 3 months, which is why I prefer the home page filtering. Tagged will allow you to send the same message to many more people that DIA did, copy and paste is your friend.Thank you so much. I'll take another look!
AV.
i've found the girls from the dating sites to be much superior in every way. i'm rarely at burgos, havana cafe, edsa, etc. it's nice that they're there as a backup.dating site girls are good. of course like every bunch of grapes you get a couple of rotten ones. generally if they ask you many questions it is a good sign. it means they are not going to meet you at a drop of the hat or panties. those who want to know how much you pay should be avoided. nicer ones are usually in the provinces but you need to buy tickets for them.
lately lots of exotic looking girls are on the site. it seems most of them were working in ktv places in manila servicing mostly koreans. some girls admitted that they were. these girls are willing to come stay with you if ticket is sent and ofcourse they need money.
it seems ktv places do not keep girls for a long duration. they like to change the line up with fresher younger girls. this was the case in ac bars as well.
to get naive girls it takes some work. need to say something like you visit often etc. this way the girl thinks you become her bf and gravy train.
the problem is out of about 20 phone i have before going to phi i can only meet 2 or 3. if i meet a girl who gives me what i want and pretty i tend to keep her for many days. hard to sample all.
Those who want to know how much you pay should be avoided. I have to disagree. I suppose it depends on your motives and / or time constraints, but when I am on a tight timeline these are the girls I prioritise! I don't want a date or a gf, I just want to fuck them. If I am happy with their service and I want to fuck them again, then I will take them out to dinner or a movie if I am hungry or want to see that particular movie. To my thinking, why waste time with a girl that doesn't know how to give a proper blow job? The ones that know the game are golden. I refuse to pay above market rates though, so when they ask how much I pay I will tell them and if we can't agree on price I simply move on. If they give me a silly high quote I give then a silly low counter offer and we usually end up at market rate. Negotiation 101. Somebody else said it, but we hold all the cards here.
WestCoast1
09-21-14, 15:58
BTW, tagged gave me the best ladies from Eastern Europe. Especially Lithuania and Latvia. I can write my own novel if I could.Waiting fella!
I admire the others who sit and write very nicely. Last time I tried to keep a journal and share it here, one of the members accused me for cutting and pasting and I lost my pleasure of writing.
Waiting fella!
I admire the others who sit and write very nicely. Last time I tried to keep a journal and share it here, one of the members accused me for cutting and pasting and I lost my pleasure of writing.I admire the guy that keeping on writing and doesn't let the others guys who are all up their ass like they were actually there and and know it all. Some write like they were in the same room with you banging the girl or even worst like they know her! Keep it up.
Well put. FYI I have been one of the founding members of Fidonet and operator of one of the oldest BBS in USA. I almost saw every type of a**hole who knows it all and become a lion behind of pixels and keyboard. Some self appoint themselves as moderators. I wish everyone think like you to make the message boards more pleasurable. BTW, don't try to guess my age. I started very young.
I admire the guy that keeping on writing and doesn't let the others guys who are all up their ass like they were actually there and and know it all. Some write like they were in the same room with you banging the girl or even worst like they know her! Keep it up.
WestCoast1
09-21-14, 19:07
I admire the others who sit and write very nicely. Last time I tried to keep a journal and share it here, one of the members accused me for cutting and pasting and I lost my pleasure of writing.Feel free to PM. I love a good nawty story.
i had only 8 hours in makati. got in at 10 pm and had to leave by 6 am for another flight to a project. i did not want to get too sloshed so just thought i would walk around, have a beer and get a few hours of sleep. did not fancy any places i walked into. on the way back to the hotel, a girl stopped me and said 500 pesos for everything in your room. that' s way cheap. she had big artificial boobs and eyes opened way too wide. she looked high and scary. i shook her off. then saw girl in her 20's sitting outside a shop. not pushy and not weird. she casually asked if i wanted a naked massage. that sounded about my speed so i said yes.
we got to my room and she said let's shower. she washed my balls and penis but seemed a little shy. i soaped up my hand and said started playing with her pussy and asshole. she did the the same. in bed she started the naked massage. after about 10 minutes, i just could not help but suck her tits. she resisted but i continued. soon. i started to get the taste of milk in my mouth. it was incredible. she was lactating! what a treat! i asked her about it and she said she was still breastfeeding and was scared i would not like that. that's crazy. i loved it. i kept sucking her boobs while she played with me. her boobs were big and her nipples dark and taut. what a special treat i stumbled upon. then she capped me and sucked me. titty fucking and then doggie for a few minutes. i was so turned on that i came way too quickly. i must say. she is a gem. she was so sweet and really seemed shy about the fact she was lactating. it was strange she did not realize she was so hot. she said "sir. i hope you don't mind. my breasts have milk". what. are you crazy? i love it and it turned me on so much.
we had a great time. the time flew and in 2 hours. i had to go to bed to wake up for my morning flight. she said she would like to get together again. man. sometimes you can score big. only 1500 peso. worth every peso. i told her about the scary women i saw on the way home. she warned me about the druggies and the sickies in burgos. she said she is clean and wants to remain that way for her kid. no kissing, or bareback blowjobs or fc. that's about my speed. will try and find her again next time.
Pip Jaeger
09-22-14, 18:16
I had only 8 hours in Makati. SNIP Soon. I started to get the taste of milk in my mouth. It was incredible. She was lactating! What a treat! SNIP. Man. Sometimes you can score big. Glad you had a good time and thanks for the FR. Stumbling upon a girl like that is another one of those amazing joys found in the Phils and one that keeps me coming back; box of chocolates kinda thing. But, hope you left some milk for her kid though, LOL.
i had only 8 hours in makati. got in at 10 pm and had to leave by 6 am for another flight to a project. i did not want to get too sloshed so just thought i would walk around, have a beer and get a few hours of sleep. did not fancy any places i walked into. on the way back to the hotel, a girl stopped me and said 500 pesos for everything in your room. that' s way cheap. she had big artificial boobs and eyes opened way too wide. she looked high and scary. i shook her off. then saw girl in her 20's sitting outside a shop. not pushy and not weird. she casually asked if i wanted a naked massage. that sounded about my speed so i said yes.
we got to my room and she said let's shower. she washed my balls and penis but seemed a little shy. i soaped up my hand and said started playing with her pussy and asshole. she did the the same. in bed she started the naked massage. after about 10 minutes, i just could not help but suck her tits. she resisted but i continued. soon. i started to get the taste of milk in my mouth. it was incredible. she was lactating! what a treat! i asked her about it and she said she was still breastfeeding and was scared i would not like that. that's crazy. i loved it. i kept sucking her boobs while she played with me. her boobs were big and her nipples dark and taut. what a special treat i stumbled upon. then she capped me and sucked me. titty fucking and then doggie for a few minutes. i was so turned on that i came way too quickly. i must say. she is a gem. she was so sweet and really seemed shy about the fact she was lactating. it was strange she did not realize she was so hot. she said "sir. i hope you don't mind. my breasts have milk". what. are you crazy? i love it and it turned me on so much.
we had a great time. the time flew and in 2 hours. i had to go to bed to wake up for my morning flight. she said she would like to get together again. man. sometimes you can score big. only 1500 peso. worth every peso. i told her about the scary women i saw on the way home. she warned me about the druggies and the sickies in burgos. she said she is clean and wants to remain that way for her kid. no kissing, or bareback blowjobs or fc. that's about my speed. will try and find her again next time.i have never taken a girl off the street in any other location but burgos. i don't go looking for 'street walkers' there but often find low mileage or even first timers around this area of makati streets soliciting. some of my nicest memories are from here. two college syt's for p500 was wild.
av.
Hi Guys,
This is my experence of my stay in Makati.
Stayed in Tune Hotel in Makati, good rates and ideally located and no issues for taking a girl in the room. In the Phil it is very difficult to differeciate between a girl and lady boy as all will say that they are girls. The security at Tune are experts and will immediately tell you if you are sure you want to take this lady. You can also ask for the I'd, it has got to be a guys name.
The yellow cab from the Apt to Tune hotel 230 pesos and from Hotel to APT white cab 140 pesos (Terminal 4).
Burgos street is now the Ermita of Makati and you can get all kinds of girls, they will quote you 500 for an hour of massage and 500 more for BJ or sex. They might quote you for total package of 1500 but they call come for 1000. It is the buyers market in that area as even Arabs won't pay more than 1000.
Green belt 3 is a good place to hang out in the evenings and the girls are pricey. I managed to get some good ones in Burgos so did not pick up from there.
In case you want only a massage with HJ then these girls will take you to thier SPA and will charge you 500.350 for SPA and 150 for HJ. I heard from other mongers in Manila that now Manila is cheaper than Thailand and expect a big mongering boom in 2015.
I haven't been to Angeles city but I heard that Angeles is now a mongers paradise. Good and cheap girls.
Happy mongering.
Hi Guys,
"Burgos street is now the Ermita of Makati and you can get all kinds of girls, they will quote you 500 for an hour of massage and 500 more for BJ or sex. They might quote you for total package of 1500 but they call come for 1000. It is the buyers market in that area as even Arabs won't pay more than 1000.
Green belt 3 is a good place to hang out in the evenings and the girls are pricey. I managed to get some good ones in Burgos so did not pick up from there.
In case you want only a massage with HJ then these girls will take you to thier SPA and will charge you 500.350 for SPA and 150 for HJ. I heard from other mongers in Manila that now Manila is cheaper than Thailand and expect a big mongering boom in 2015.
Happy mongering.One thing I was not clear on is if all the girls offer the package. There are many girls in the uniforms like tunics hanging around that look like they really are just massage girls. Is everyone pretty much game for a package?
Also, with such good prices on the street (P1000), why would anyone take a girl out of a go-go bar and pay a huge bar fine? Seems like a strange market on Burgos. Long time ago, the bar girls offered a reasonable deal but now it seems like that the bars are pretty empty. They should drop prices to pull in more customers.
WestCoast1
09-24-14, 14:26
One thing I was not clear on is if all the girls offer the package. There are many girls in the uniforms like tunics hanging around that look like they really are just massage girls. Is everyone pretty much game for a package?No. Each girl is different. The uniformed girls may or may not be up for a 'package'; some are there for massage only. Also the 'package' and its price vary wildly.
Also, with such good prices on the street (P1000), why would anyone take a girl out of a go-go bar and pay a huge bar fine? Multiple reasons. Before asking the question, RTTF. I agree with you that its crazy to take the bargirls, but many gents have their reasons.
Seems like a strange market on Burgos. Yes, Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Welcome to pinas. RTTF.
Long time ago, the bar girls offered a reasonable deal but now it seems like that the bars are pretty empty. They should drop prices to pull in more customers.Not necessarily. You are utlizing simple marketing ideas (something lost on many pilipino) that seem logical to you, but on Burgos you are in the country of superstition and illogic.
Interesting to read about massages, I just had my first one tonight. I have been very busy fucking mostly repeats from my previous posts so have not had a lot new to add. I don't do pictures, creates a trail.
My 24 yo call centre girl came over about lunch time today, I gave myself the afternoon off and spent the time in bed with her. She had to go to work around 7 pm so I found myself with empty balls and nothing to do this evening. Go try the hotel massage, my evil twin says, maybe they have enough hand job skills to punch out one more cum before bed.
Alas, it was not to be. The massage itself was reasonable, but it was probably the least sexy massage I have ever had in Asia. Not the slightest hint of accidental ball touching, no "oops, sorry I just ran my finger across your sphincter because the cream was so slippery" moments, nothing. Nada. Zip. Zilch.
So I paid the paltry sum of 600 pesos for the actual massage, which where I come from is very cheap, tipped the massage girl 100 pesos for no particular reason other than she was standing around expecting a tip and started wondering where the rest of my night would lead to. I love this country.
No. Each girl is different. The uniformed girls may or may not be up for a 'package'; some are there for massage only. Also the 'package' and its price vary wildly.
Multiple reasons. Before asking the question, RTTF. I agree with you that its crazy to take the bargirls, but many gents have their reasons.
Yes, Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. Welcome to pinas. RTTF.
Not necessarily. You are utlizing simple marketing ideas (something lost on many pilipino) that seem logical to you, but on Burgos you are in the country of superstition and illogic.Yes. The bar scene is very weird. The girls are very sexy in the bars but they are so expensive. I cuddled with one and she asked me for P3000 for a quickie upstairs. That's not cheap. In 2005, I got a BJ in the booth by just buying the girl drinks. The girls on the street are also cute and cost less than 1/2 the price in the comfort of your hotel. I don't really trust the medical checks the bars are supposed to do so keep it clean with condoms for everything involving my little brother and no kissing. So I guess I think the freelancers are fine for me. I also store all valuables in the safe before inviting anyone to my room.
Member #4698
09-24-14, 17:37
Yes. The bar scene is very weird. The girls are very sexy in the bars but they are so expensive. I cuddled with one and she asked me for P3000 for a quickie upstairs. That's not cheap. Different Burgos bars have different price points. At the high end there is Bottoms Bar, Barfine 3900 p or 10 lady drinks plus 3000 p or more ST service charge negotiated separately with your girl. At the low end is Rogues bar, Barfine 1800 p plus 1800 p ST service charge. The girls at Bottoms Bar are pretty hot. The girls at both bars have great attitudes. I have fooled around plenty with girls in both bars. For example, recently I remember two half sisters I met at Rogues. One sister gave me a BJ under the table while I made out and sucked the other sister's nipples. That was just their way of saying barfine us both and we will show you a good time. Yeah Burgos Bar girls are expensive. Money aside, I think I like them more than AC bar girls these days. One special Burgos bar girl I met last trip offered a work around next time I visit to avoid the stiff barfine. She is a very cool girl, very good looking, and a great performer. Currently she is my favorite Filipina. I am looking forward to seeing her again. I will happily pay her service charge.
I love Burgos but hate the BF pricing. Bottoms has a daytime discount that runs till 7 pm, 2100 p + 3000 p for lady ST, I took a couple this way.
Another bar w / quality ladies is Kojax. Their regular BF is 2600,1300 p better than Bottoms. In general the Makati prices are much higher but so is the visual quality of the ladies. They are also more business oriented than their AC counterparts. AC is special if you can find the hottie that will go w / you. In Makati the BG's want your money more so they will go w / most mongers that walk in the door, not much rejection in Makati.
There are the street options too, including freelancers, massage girls, etc. One night I made a big mistake in not taking a beauty because she wanted 3000 p, I was shooting for 2000 p. There are so many others that you just move on to the next one, the 3000 p FL though stuck in my mind, she's still in my mind.
I think I've finally learned drinking too many beers at night is not a great idea, it could have been better w / less beer. They just taste so nice and cold.
A very pretty Bottom's girl, nothing like her in AC. Big city girls are something.
I love Burgos but hate the BF pricing. I don't know why you guys don't get her number and have her come over before or after work. I have done this in Burgos, AC and Cebu.
Member #4698
09-24-14, 19:13
I don't know why you guys don't get her number and have her come over before or after work. I have done this in Burgos, AC and Cebu.That's what I am talking about with my favorite Burgos bar girl. She wants to take time off from her Bar to see me on the side. It sounds great. I have set aside 10 days for Makati on my next trip. I will have to see how our reunion goes, but if it goes as well as I expect, I will take her to Palawan for 4 or 5 days.
Member #4698
09-24-14, 19:19
I love Burgos but hate the BF pricing... A very pretty Bottom's girl, nothing like her in AC. Big city girls are something.I totally agree with you. Many Makati bar girls seem more sophisticated, better looking, and more ready for action than their rural AC sisters. Your Bottom's girl has a great body. I wish I could see her face, but I understand the necessity of protecting her identity. I do the same. Currently, Bottoms has an outstanding lineup. I think it has a better lineup than any bar in AC. I will give Kojax a look see next time I am in Makati. Next trip I am spending all my Philippine time in Makati except for my possible Palawan holiday with yes, a Bottom's girl. I will see AC and Subic in 2016, maybe.
Member #4387
09-24-14, 19:27
Not that I use FL places like Havana to much these days but why not only go here or a nightclub and take a girl of your choice for 3 K LT. Have never had a bad day doing like this. Never negotiate price just establish chemistry (good ofcourse) and then back to room for hanky panky I know some of you guys are in love with girlie bars but I do not realy see the point. Much more freedome in FL places or simular nightclubs in this designated area. Just saying.
This is my FR which happened couple of months back. Was there in Makati for some business meeting and was put up in The Picasso Boutique Serviced Residences. Checked in on mid morning on Monday and wallah was upgraded to premium suit really big with seating room, really big bedroom with king size bed and walk in bath room with tub. Had back to back meeting day long till 4:00 PM then went to Green belt mall with local business associate (really sweet guy) who told me to go to famous burgos street if you want some good fun. Good advice for first timer, went back to hotel after couple of scotch then freshen up had some great philipino food (bugong rice and some fried pork) then off go to Burgos. Was scared as it was my first time so had a round then settled some random bar, girls quality was 6/10 so just had a beer and chi chat with really cute bar tender girl. The mamsan and girls were trying too hard for bar fine but not to my liking so came out and thought to try massage instead with some fun. Few options were there but not ready to come bellow 2000 P (stiff) so went ahead then one really good looking MILF asked me what I want I just said a massage and HJ (told her with hand action LOL), she agreed for out call 500 P then went to her den as she wanted to change came out wearing decent jeans and top went to hotel, staff didn't mind just took her number and identity. Went to room locked all my stuff in locker. She said she will clean her feet so she went to bathroom but due to wrong tap adjustment (LOL) she got bit drenched so she just removed top lucky me. Off go my pant then I received really good massage a erotic one she was touching the gems, groping in between beautiful. Then she gave amazing slow HJ while licking my nipples and DFK. The again massage and one more HJ at end while I was suckling her nipple wow. Then she cuddled me told me that she wants to bring one of her friend and have fun but I was so tired I kissed her good bye with 100 p tip and taxi money.
Report.
Name: Mishel (Fake I guess).
Age: in her early 30.
Boobs: 7/10.
Body: 7/10.
Glory hole: 6/10 (never entered just fingers).
WIR: may be with new girl.
Damage: 500 P +200 P.
Safe banging!!
One more FR to go.
Member #4698
09-24-14, 19:41
Not that I use FL places like Havana to much these days but why not only go here or a nightclub and take a girl of your choice for 3 K LT. Have never had a bad day doing like this. Never negotiate price just establish chemistry (good ofcourse) and then back to room for hanky panky I know some of you guys are in love with girlie bars but I do not realy see the point. Much more freedome in FL places or simular nightclubs in this designated area. Just saying.You are right, Skogis. I have been planning to expand out into the club scene for some time. It is just that I am very slow in checking out different venues. Republiq, Palladium, Time, and Exclusiv are all on my to do list. I really should hit Palladium and Time this next trip since they are right there in Makati. No excuses, LOL, but it is tough to tear myself away from Burgos.
Member #4387
09-24-14, 21:00
You are right, Skogis. I have been planning to expand out into the club scene for some time. It is just that I am very slow in checking out different venues. Republiq, Palladium, Time, and Exclusiv are all on my to do list. I really should hit Palladium and Time this next trip since they are right there in Makati. No excuses, LOL, but it is tough to tear myself away from Burgos.And I don't blame you. I am just not used to anything else but for every guy claiming or blaiming places like Burgos beeing so expensive I can not see why. Since I am not so active any more (more into fb these days) in the present on ground FL scene I want to just advertise a tad towards this. Atleast why not try (probably like me realy not dug into the girliebarscene, just don't fancy me).
You are right, Skogis. I have been planning to expand out into the club scene for some time. It is just that I am very slow in checking out different venues. Republiq, Palladium, Time, and Exclusiv are all on my to do list. I really should hit Palladium and Time this next trip since they are right there in Makati. No excuses, LOL, but it is tough to tear myself away from Burgos.Grammerce 71 is really hot right now.
Member #4387
09-25-14, 18:21
Grammerce 71 is really hot right now.Did a bring in there 2 weeks ago approx (it was a Wednesday usualy celebrity night and phil girls love that). Yes it is nice place and a plave I also would consider foing alone as there where so many group of girls present so it should be possible to grab one of them for a take out but in Gramercy 71 we talk decent dressings, I wore one recently bought Paul Smith t-shirt (5900 bht), and they asked me why I did not wear poloshirt atleast. Fuckers, but I managed to get in. On the strong side while leaving drunk as a freight train I lost my Iphone. Returned from hotel (where I found out) and even the ground staff at ground level knew one iphone was missing upon my return. Quite impressive handled by them. I give Gramercy thumbs up.
I wore one recently bought Paul Smith t-shirt (5900 bht), and they asked me why I did not wear poloshirt atleast. Fuckers, but I managed to get in.A lot of the high-end clubs are strict on the dress policy; a collared shirt is usually required.
Currently Gramercy 71 is the "it" club in metro Manila. If celebs are your thing that's the place.
I just got back from my bi-annual trip to Manila to check on our office staff. I want to thank the OP from a couple weeks ago that mentioned trying out the nightclub scene rather than Burgos and Havana. He was %100 right.
I was staying at New World so had access to Palladium and on 2 different nights got non-working girls numbers and ended up playing with both later in the week. If you don't have it installed on your smart phone download Viber or Whatsapp it is what all ladies including working ones use to keep in touch. The con is that they will know your real phone number. The pro is that you don't have to get a sim card if you phone gets 3 G or WiFi connectivity.
71 Grammercy was a blast! I went by myself and ended up hanging out with a group of local young ladies. I only bought a couple rounds of drinks and ended up making out with one on the girls on dance floor and then getting her friends phone number before I left. I connected with the friend via VIBER before I left and she just came over the hotel to say goodbye to me 2 hours before I left for my flight. She pulled out all of the stops to try to get me to stay 1 more day and it almost worked.
I did go to Burgos because it is a ritual now. I visited Kojax, Plan be, Bottoms, Starlight, Ringside and Montana. I ended up with "L" from Kojax. BF 2600. Donation 2500 LT. At first I thought she was going to be a starfish but ended up a rockstar. I also went to H & J and Chupacabra near Burgos and could have made some friends but I just wanted to relax when I got there.
Overall if I go back in the future I will switch primarily to nightclubs, honestly speaking with taxi-drinks-food it ends up costing the same as Burgos. For the first night I will always go to Havana or Burgos just to warm up. Be safe!!
Pip Jaeger
09-27-14, 18:08
I just got back from my bi-annual trip to Manila to check on our office staff. I want to thank the OP from a couple weeks ago that mentioned trying out the nightclub scene rather than Burgos and Havana. He was %100 right.
I was staying at New World so had access to Palladium and on 2 different nights got non-working girls numbers and ended up playing with both later in the week. If you don't have it installed on your smart phone download Viber or Whatsapp it is what all ladies including working ones use to keep in touch. The con is that they will know your real phone number. The pro is that you don't have to get a sim card if you phone gets 3 G or WiFi connectivity. SNIPThanks for the FR, glad you had a good time.
About Viber / WhatsApp = what you say is fine and good, but the problem is that many girls, especially those from the provinces, don't have ready access to Wi-Fi or don't buy a load for their phones that includes data (or they burn it up fast on Wastebook). You can install Viber on a PC, but some net caf's may prohibit it.
A way around keeping your number private for Viber: buy a local SIM card, set up your account and then replace the SIM card with your original am not sure about WhatsApp as I don't use it). I set up my Viber account last time in the Phils and it works fine in the USA. The only drawback I had so far was I wanted to install it on my iPad and the system wanted to send a text message to my Phils number to confirm (was not an issue on my PC), so I'll have to wait until I return to set it up.
Personally I wouldn't rely on either app to get in touch with a girl I just met there. SIM cards are cheap and so are the loads; Smart for example = p40 for the card and a p250 load gets you a month of unli all network texting, 100 mb data and 180 minutes of talk time. At least with texting you have a much better chance of getting a reply and if the girl gets lost or is delayed while en route to meet you she'll be able to text you (or reply to you), whereas that might not be possible using a Wi-Fi or 3 G dependent app.
A way around keeping your number private for Viber: buy a local SIM card, set up your account and then replace the SIM card with your original am not sure about WhatsApp as I don't use it). I set up my Viber account last time in the Phils and it works fine in the USA...Are you sure about keeping your number 'private' this way?
Sorry, I have little knowledge about Messenger Apps, since I do not use any of them.
If I understand their concept correctly, many of those Messenger Apps are reading automatically your contact details. So it would not help, just changing your SIM Card, when your own personal details and those of all your contacts are read and transmitted to the servers of the newly installed App. Please correct me, if I am wrong.
Pip Jaeger
09-28-14, 11:26
Are you sure about keeping your number 'private' this way?
Sorry, I have little knowledge about Messenger Apps, since I do not use any of them.
If I understand their concept correctly, many of those Messenger Apps are reading automatically your contact details. So it would not help, just changing your SIM Card, when your own personal details and those of all your contacts are read and transmitted to the servers of the newly installed App. Please correct me, if I am wrong.I'm not a techy either so I have no idea what data Viber stores on their servers; if that's an issue for you (or anyone) then I suggest you research it further or simply not use their app.
What I meant by private was that my USA number is hidden from Pinays and I don't have to give them my non-Phils number. When I set my Viber account up it did read and transfer my contacts into the app. Then, if I recall correctly, I had the option of adding all contacts or only the ones who also have / use Viber. New contacts who already use Viber and contacts in you regular phone book who join Viber are added automatically (I think you can decline). You do have the option of blocking a contact as well.
What's important to me is that my USA number does not appear to a Pinay contact nor do I have to give it out to anyone there.
Member #4387
09-28-14, 11:57
I'm not a techy either so I have no idea what data Viber stores on their servers; if that's an issue for you (or anyone) then I suggest you research it further or simply not use their app.
What I meant by private was that my USA number is hidden from Pinays and I don't have to give them my non-Phils number. When I set my Viber account up it did read and transfer my contacts into the app. Then, if I recall correctly, I had the option of adding all contacts or only the ones who also have / use Viber. New contacts who already use Viber and contacts in you regular phone book who join Viber are added automatically (I think you can decline). You do have the option of blocking a contact as well.
What's important to me is that my USA number does not appear to a Pinay contact nor do I have to give it out to anyone there.I am not techy either but since almost every pinay are either on whatsapp or viber these days I simply created myself 2 fake norwegian contactnumbers as well. I have one for viber and one for whatsapp. As PIP I don't want to put out my traditional number except from work, family and friends. Just to show good faith to the pinays as many of them wants to direct convo to mentioned apps.
On the other hand I start to have problems now with to many accounts here and there, to many numbers here and there, to many facebooks etc etc. I know one day it all will blow up and probably into my face but until then why not just enjoy.
Sadly I flew out of Manila, but am already plotting my return.
The call centre girl that I repeated a few times wants to have a threesome where she gets her pussy licked. Fine by me as long as I am also a main part of the action since I will be paying the bill. She took me to meet her cousin who worked in a shop near greenbelt. The cousin was available, had a spinner type body, but not a very good face. She did not want to have a threesome with her cousin, but I think the idea was for the cousin to keep me occupied at night while call centre girl was at work. I declined.
Period girl when I took her and her friend from Havanas came back for a night on her own. From now on I shall call her anal girl. She is quite skilled in the anal department and thinks nothing of slipping her finger up my ass while giving me a blow job. At one point I had her rim me and blow with me on my hands and knees and she took it all in her stride. Anybody care for a tossed salad? Clearly been around the block a few times but a hell of a lot of fun.
Unfortunately I had to do some work in between all the beer and fucking, and before I knew it my time in the phils was over. I love this country.
spent a few weeks in manila during july / august, kinda thought it might have been a waste to spend it all in the one place, considered taking the time to visit cebu or davao. however once i had my local sim my phone was blowing up with texts and opportunities to meet constantly i was able to keep very busy.
arrival was pretty good i must say, the airport truly does look like a dump, but i passed through arrivals and customs with ease, within 30 minutes i was already waiting for my hotel driver to pick me up on the way to holiday inn & suites makati. traffic was crap, but got there eventually, saw so many hot chicks on the way to the hotel it was unbelievable and all so tiny, sadly arrived at the hotel a bit too late to buy a sim in glorietta as it was bang on closing time, but i had a chick lined up on wechat who brought a friend over. i actually preferred her friend, but the wechat chick was more petite and "seemed" more innocent, brushed the friend off lightly and fucked wechat chick a few times during the night. offered to pay for her taxi fare back home in the morning and that was that. went into glorietta and found a place to purchase a sim, the counter chick was helpful enough to set it all up for me and i bought a couple hundred peso load. this was where the trip started to get interesting. caught on quickly that a lot of chicks are into viber and it makes for an easy way to see some more pics of the chicks before you meet. the first couple of days i was only meeting and bedding 1 chick a day, but that soon progressed to 3 a day, i even managed 4 in a day, but 1 was a pretty good repeat, so doesn't really count.
being honest i think 3 a day is plenty, even 2 a day was fine. i'm not entirely sure how hutsori and skogis manage to pull it off, props to you guys for being able to do so, but the majority of the girls i met with we met in the mall first, grabbed a bite or a drink, maybe a movie on a couple of occasions then back to the hotel for some fun. i'd say about 20% of the chicks i landed were down to come straight to the hotel to hang out and have some fun together with soon after, only had to pay for taxi fare too. i wasn't able to pull a lot of chicks to come over straight to the hotel, maybe some have been learnt the game? but the chicks i met in the malls were much better looking anyway i think, though it is tiring to meet, talk, go back fuck then rinse and repeat a few times a day, actually kinda tiring and i'm fairly young and in decent shape.
as has been mentioned it's best to stay away from girls with photo brushed pictures on the dating sites, i met a few who looked quite ok from their pics and in person they were just not so great to look at.
won't really go into a blow by blow of each day and what happened as i was there quite a while and can't recall everything, but it is seriously easy to meet and have some fun with the ladies on the dating sites, i had good success with fc and pl, didn't bother with other sites, though was tempted to try tagged. there was far too many numbers i gathered before the trip and also while over there that i could have never managed to meet with everyone, but it is easy to line up dates. there may have only been 1 or 2 girls who i didn't manage to invite back over to the hotel on the first time, but they were hot enough to warrant a second date and then things eventually led to a happy ending. on any future trips i won't bother with this double date stuff, there's just so much opportunity there i won't waste time with the same girls like that again.
has anyone noticed fairly regularly that some texts you send don't seem to send through? had a couple of chicks think i was ignoring them when we were trying to arrange to meet and also on some occasions i wasn't able to receive messages from girls even when i had load, they showed me their phones when we meet in person and i saw they sent them, but i didn't receive anything. seemed a bit weird.
the airport was a truly shitty experience when it was time to depart, the lines were so long, everything is messed up, lines are rep001tered everywhere and it's so fucking hot! took forever to get through check in and customs. the roof was leaking in some areas and there's not a lot of seats on offer. this was easily the most crap airport i've ever seen, there's renovations happening, but i don't know if they'll do much good.
considering returning in february and staying in manila, but maybe cebu or davao would be interesting to check out. kinda tempted to try vietnam also as there's quite a few hots on the online dating sites, but i hear it's hard to bring the ladies back to a lot of the hotels there.
Member #4387
10-03-14, 12:59
In the break of dawn I get connected to a 18 yo well tuned spinner through my fake facebook. We chat some and I wonder if she would meet up at Itallianis Glorietta for lunch. After just some Glorietta 4 entrance mixup (meeting point) we finaly meet, grabs a pizza and walk back to hotel for her pasabulong. Never bring pasabulongs always have them tucked away within room perimeters. If a girl might be a tad reluctant to come along atleast this will give her motivation to come. Well the pasabulong was just something coming up during our chats earlier the same morning as i did bring a few sets of perfume just in case. I strongly believe this Kittycat would come along anyway. In other words without the word sex beeing used in pre communication we were both well agreed what were about to happen.
Once in room we have a lunchdrink and some chats. She looks stunning 160 or so fine pale pinay beauty. I start the kissingprogram as in "is it ok we kiss some". She falls in and joins the game. Then suddenly this rather quite and seemingly shy Cat switch on her "Tiger" button. Oh my fucking God. She takes charge and even if I am a lot bigger than her she drags me to the bedroom and gives me one of the best BBBJ I ever had. Great suctions incl my nuts, rimming and the hole package. I am about to blow but she tells me I am not allowed to yet and then she mounts me and gives me a nice ride. At the age of 18 this girl knew how to use her mouth and twat. She DFK simular or better than her more experienced sisters. She floated her juices on my tummy and ordered me to come wherever I wanted. It did not take more than a swift minute or so in doggy for me to blow my load onto her partly chest / facial area. I hereby admit i missed my target which where her face but this turning her from doggy when coming and then aim for the face was a bit to much.I feel happy pappy and wander in my mind where this girl came from.
This girl wants more and begs me to DATY, finger (pussy / ass) and her exact words "be dirty to me". I give her my best shot even still drained and a bit beaten up from the first act. The smell of young fresh pukie makes jr soon wake up again but I nevertheless just continue to do orals and fingerworking her. Normaly I would not write in such a style but beeing one of my most crazy experience in my mongertime I could not help it, sorry folks. She screams, moans, comes so strong that I find a pillow, put it over her face to silence the screaming. And then it is back to fucking. She did not want A+ but finger was ok in the barn. And so it goes for two more sessions with only minor breaks in between.
What a package of dynamite showing up from a facebook "friend of a friend" in early morning hours in Makati. Ofcourse one question raises: is she attached to the sexindustry? She did not admit it but she told me (if it is bull or not I don't know and I don't care) she did start seeing a french guy at the age of 16 and been with him until recent. But a small part of my brain tells me she has been working the industry. I will probably never find out the real truth and I don't think I want to. But if the part incl the french guy is true I just want to applaude you (not for fucking a minor) as you have teached her well. This is nothing someone can pick up from passively watching porn. To her (and maby the french guys) defence she could easily been older than 18 as she could look anywere from meantioned age to 25 (maby she was maby not I have no idea). Lets call the girl Heat. For obvious reasons she is added into my repeatlist so as long as she is there there will be no sharing of contact info.
Spent a few weeks in Manila during July / August, kinda thought it might have been a waste to spend it all in the one place, considered taking the time to visit Cebu or Davao. However once I had my local sim my phone was blowing up with texts and opportunities to meet constantly I was able to keep very busy.
Arrival was pretty good I must say, the airport truly does look like a dump, but I passed through arrivals and customs with ease, within 30 minutes I was already waiting for my hotel driver to pick me up on the way to Holiday Inn & Suites Makati. How was the hotel? Did you use the fitness center? Pool? I plan on staying there next month for the first time.
How was the hotel? Did you use the fitness center? Pool? I plan on staying there next month for the first time.The hotel was pretty good actually. Had a nice stay at this place. Room size was pretty decent and staff seem to go out of their way to be rather friendly. The lobby area is pretty tiny though and there's no way you can sneak your guests through, but I didn't care about that at all. Being connected right with Glorietta 1 was a plus for me, so many places to eat or grab a drink nearby it's easy to arrange for meets with the locals. Only crappy thing is the lifts are kinda slow at times, but I didn't find it all that bad. There's 3 lifts in total, but I heard a fourth is going to be set up, not sure how true this is or not, but the place certainly could use the extra lift. If you order any food delivery the staff make you come down to pick it up which kinda sucks, every hotel I've been in from various countries I've stayed overseas hasn't done this, but it's a minor gripe.
The curtains in the rooms do a good job at blocking out the light, woke up thinking it was still night time on a couple occasions LOL, didn't try out the pool though as it didn't seem very deep and the fitness center I didn't try either as it's only a tiny room really.
I considered staying at the Fairmont and I may do so next time, however I would be happy to return here for my next trip.
Would definitely recommend the place based on value and service.
How was the hotel? Did you use the fitness center? Pool? I plan on staying there next month for the first time.If you can get a good rate, its a great place. I am staying there right now. Seeing it was a unknown hotel, I prebooked it at a rate of 110 usd (taxes included) for 3 days. Now my 3 days are finished, the rates is almost 200 usd a night (taxes included).
No problem with guests going to your room. They just call up every time guest entering or leaving.
Their is a "walk of shame" as too many guards standing on the front door. But no one seems to be judging you. Guests are not required to register on front desk. Only 1 guest at a time else extra charges.
Free WIFI working great.
Ask for a room whose last 2 digits are ending with "28". Every floor has one. Its right at the end of the alleyway, noise free // full of privacy.
The housekeeping is available 24 hours a day. Loved that feature!
Plenty of fresh clean towels provided daily.
I was talking to many ladies before my arrival. Have finished 3 days and have been busy doing different girls twice daily. No time to go to any night club.
I'm not entirely sure how hutsori and skogis manage to pull it off, props to you guys for being able to do so, but the majority of the girls I met with we met in the mall first, grabbed a bite or a drink, maybe a movie on a couple of occasions then back to the hotel for some fun. I'd say about 20% of the chicks I landed were down to come straight to the hotel to hang out and have some fun together with soon after, only had to pay for taxi fare too. Going to malls and meeting for coffee, drinks, and food cuts into the time you have for your hapenis. I refuse to meet a girl anywhere other than my place. She knows exactly why she's coming over and what will happen. Yes, this filters out those who prefer a more traditional meeting, but I'm at peace with that because I don't have to deal with the 80% you say won't go back to your hotel. I've found so many times that when a girl says she wants to meet at a mall and I tell her I only meet at my place she readily agrees. Some girls who refuse to come to my place will weeks or even months later change their mind and happily come over, so don't burn bridges. Periodically send a message or text just to maintain a presence. So far I've only had one girl who was a pain in the ass about the outside meeting; she wanted me to pick her up from work in Ortigas during morning rush hour, I refused, and she kept stubbornly insisting on it. I explained to her that this would not happen and that I was no longer going to discuss it further. She agreed the come over the following morning after work. I sent her a text that morning and she's back to her come-pick-me-up gambit. I didn't and ignored all her subsequent texts including the ones stating "I'm on my way." I don't need the annoyance. For a few weeks after I'd get texts from her apologizing and asking to meet. Ignored. Those who come in the morning and afternoon I allow 4 hours typically. We chat for a while and then it's to the shower and bed. The girls who come at night often spend the night. Those who are frequent night visitors I take out for dinner, clubbing, movies, etc.
Hutsori knows what HE wants and how to get it. Good read.
My own strategy is more the "traditional meeting". I've found that my success rate is around 50% to my room on the first date. So, maybe I'm wasting time with the same ladies that would go directly to the room for a shag. So be it. Nevertheless, I've come across some real treasures this way, and I'm certain I would have missed out on a few if I hadn't set it up like a regular date. Huts is probably rolling his eyes and muttering, "there are a lot more fish in the ocean".
Sometimes a gal will hint at compensation or offer to come directly to the room. Generally I accept and appreciate that they've made it obvious that they are p4 p. I guess I just like the hunt. X.
Going to malls and meeting for coffee, drinks, and food cuts into the time you have for your hapenis. I refuse to meet a girl anywhere other than my place. She knows exactly why she's coming over and what will happen. Yes, this filters out those who prefer a more traditional meeting, but I'm at peace with that because I don't have to deal with the 80% you say won't go back to your hotel. SNIP
Huts is probably rolling his eyes and muttering, "there are a lot more fish in the ocean".Nope, no eye rolling. Yes, there are plenty of fish. Everyone does his own cost-benefit analysis. Getting dressed, sitting in traffic, wandering the mall, sipping a coffee... that all cuts into my valuable condo-cleaning time. :P It's just so much easier to sit naked in my place and open the door. I fear I'm becoming Howard Hughes.
My own strategy is more the "traditional meeting". I've found that my success rate is around 50% to my room on the first date. So, maybe I'm wasting time with the same ladies that would go directly to the room for a shag. So be it. Nevertheless, I've come across some real treasures this way. Treasures abound. Sure, one can go seek the treasure. That air-hostess applicant queue I stumbled upon at the Shang was a real find. Made putting on clothes that day worth it. But when the treasure seeks you...
Member #4387
10-06-14, 06:14
Treasures abound. Sure, one can go seek the treasure. That air-hostess applicant queue I stumbled upon at the Shang was a real find. Made putting on clothes that day worth it. But when the treasure seeks you...And your intel made me get dressed instantly and run from my Ascott hide out and into the Shangri-la Makati. Also a great way to hurry up "ms spend the night" as I suddenly got sth to do.
The place was crowded by beauties carrying around envelopes probably containing their curriculum vitae and other vital papers. They where dressed in smart business outfits and took girl quality to a hole new level.
The only kreep about this event was probably me running around the Shangri-la druling from my mouth taking pics. I have to admit, as I am recently well raised, I got a bit reluctant to constantly shoot pics. My mental images are very strong. Anyway here are some pics from the Qatar Airways interview from Shangri-la.
The only kreep about this event was probably me running around the Shangri-la druling from my mouth taking pics. I have to admit, as I am recently well raised, I got a bit reluctant to constantly shoot pics. My mental images are very strong. Anyway here are some pics from the Qatar Airways interview from Shangri-la.LOL, you shot photos? You're bolder than I am. After I figured out what's going on I played the dumb-foreigner card to chat up some girls. The queue was enormous. I've heard from several girls whom I exchanged numbers with that Qatar decided to interview the first 1000 in line and everyone else was to drop off their CVs or try their luck on Sunday.
Pip Jaeger
10-06-14, 13:45
the first 1000 in line Bet Skogis felt like HE was at a Smorgasbord. Maybe that's why HE ran there as HE thought they might run out of tasty treats, LOL.
Note: any one know why the software now puts the word "he" in caps? Skoggy's good, but he's not a god, lol
Member #4387
10-06-14, 14:15
Bet Skogis felt like HE was at a Smorgasbord. Maybe that's why HE ran there as HE thought they might run out of tasty treats, LOL.
Note: any one know why the software now puts the word "he" in caps? Skoggy's good, but he's not a god, lolHell no, I am more a dvil kind.
Anyway this 4 days stay I ran through a collection of 11 girls. Yes I know I have told I would slow it a tad down but having to many girls through many sources now the temptations are hard to beat. I know we often give the girls a hard time beeing to sloppy around timing. Well from this 10, two girls late but showed up within the hour (used the usual and sth understandable "trappic" excuse. The rest right on time and one even 15 minutes ahead of eta (estimated time of arrival). Beeing to early can sometimes also be a hazzle due to the evidence removals (which Huts and me have promoted big time), rinse, recoup and recovery time between sessions. Just wants to brag a bit of the girls as well since we often can be a tad harsh towards them.
By lowering numbers of girls a tad it gives me more time between session so a latecommer or two will not break the system. Earlier days this would be a major problem.
Going to malls and meeting for coffee, drinks, and food cuts into the time you have for your hapenis. I refuse to meet a girl anywhere other than my place. She knows exactly why she's coming over and what will happen. Yes, this filters out those who prefer a more traditional meeting, but I'm at peace with that because I don't have to deal with the 80% you say won't go back to your hotel. I've found so many times that when a girl says she wants to meet at a mall and I tell her I only meet at my place she readily agrees. Some girls who refuse to come to my place will weeks or even months later change their mind and happily come over, so don't burn bridges. Periodically send a message or text just to maintain a presence. So far I've only had one girl who was a pain in the ass about the outside meeting; she wanted me to pick her up from work in Ortigas during morning rush hour, I refused, and she kept stubbornly insisting on it. I explained to her that this would not happen and that I was no longer going to discuss it further. She agreed the come over the following morning after work. I sent her a text that morning and she's back to her come-pick-me-up gambit. I didn't and ignored all her subsequent texts including the ones stating "I'm on my way." I don't need the annoyance. For a few weeks after I'd get texts from her apologizing and asking to meet. Ignored. Those who come in the morning and afternoon I allow 4 hours typically. We chat for a while and then it's to the shower and bed. The girls who come at night often spend the night. Those who are frequent night visitors I take out for dinner, clubbing, movies, etc.I used to like this into now. I got a BIG titty girl to come over. I really wanted those big tits! She had nice pics emailed a few times all seemed good. She arrived and was a half man!!HE was fatter and way the fuck uglyer then the pictures and was a fucking transgender, cut it off. I didn't know how to handle it. Two choices fuck off you mother fucking piece of shit- or be nice. I wanted to get him the fuck out so I said. "let me be honest with you, I have no interest in you and you are not my type". Here is some money for your trouble and please leave. I was so worried others would see me I just gave some money to get IT the fuck out.
FUCKING SHIT! Be careful, I will fucking cam from now on.
IT IS ON FILIPINACUPID. NAMED VERONICA, HUGE TITS.
I fear I'm becoming Howard Hughes. Treasures abound. Sure, one can go seek the treasure. That air-hostess applicant queue I stumbled upon at the Shang was a real find. Made putting on clothes that day worth it. But when the treasure seeks you...Hi Huts, sounds like an ideal situation. I hope to have a similar one when I retire there in a few years.
Pip Jaeger
10-09-14, 15:20
I used to like this into now. I got a BIG titty girl to come over. I really wanted those big tits! She had nice pics emailed a few times all seemed good. She arrived and was a half man!!HE was fatter and way the fuck uglyer then the pictures and was a fucking transgender, cut it off. I didn't know how to handle it. Two choices fuck off you mother fucking piece of shit- or be nice. I wanted to get him the fuck out so I said. "let me be honest with you, I have no interest in you and you are not my type". Here is some money for your trouble and please leave. I was so worried others would see me I just gave some money to get IT the fuck out.
FUCKING SHIT! Be careful, I will fucking cam from now on.
IT IS ON FILIPINACUPID. NAMED VERONICA, HUGE TITS.Another reason I prefer to meet in a public place first. And yes, C2 see first will avoid most issues like that one, but it can still happen and there's nothing to prevent a girl from showing up with friends / family (even if you ask them not to come alone). Just part of the game, but at least you handled it the right way, no need to cause a scene.
I took a quick look on FC, there's about 50 Veronica's between 18-28, but if you mean: Veronica (27) from Makati, "open minded" as tag line then no surprise she was big as she posted 5'4" 60 kg. Not really important to me as not my type even if was a real girl. You can report the one you met to FC as a scammer and lady boy, they will delete "it's" account.
I used to like this into now.In two years of doing so I haven't had that misfortune. Proper vetting? Luck? Who knows? If it happens I'd thank her for coming and give her some transport money. In my cost-benefit analysis I'm willing to risk that to eliminate the hassle to going to malls everyday. I'm able to maximize my hapenis time. I receive a lot of messages from ladyboys, and I can't recall a case where one denied being one. Most often it's in her profile, and when it hasn't been they often volunteer that info in the messages we exchange. And when I've asked I've gotten honest replies.
So far the worst that has happened to me is a girl 20-30 pounds heavier than her photos; this is my fault because I was impressed by her writing (3rd culture kid, father is a diplomat, educated abroad) I failed to get her on camera. Right before she arrived at my place she uploaded two new photos taken at a wedding she was attending, but I didn't see those until after she left. Anyway, she parked her car, walked into the lobby where I sat, I hid my surprise, I invited her in, and we had a nice time. The only other surprise that's happened is two girls showing up rather than one.
OsakaGin11
10-25-14, 11:35
I don't know why you guys don't get her number and have her come over before or after work. I have done this in Burgos, AC and Cebu.And that's a plus 1 for me too on this strategy. I have around the Burgos St. Scene in the past, it would seem that the Club BF plus a big fee to the girl, makes it outrageously expensive to take out a girl out during club hours. When I visited there I used the first night to scope the bars and see what took my fancy and I usually bought the gal (or gals) one LD and see if I could get her phone no. And hopefully followed up with a before or after work visit to my hotel or if you were lucky, meet her on her day off.
This worked for me and was a hell of lot cheaper than paying upwards of 6,000 Pesos for the gal!
Dark Knight1
10-29-14, 05:25
And that's a plus 1 for me too on this strategy. I have around the Burgos St. Scene in the past, it would seem that the Club BF plus a big fee to the girl, makes it outrageously expensive to take out a girl out during club hours. When I visited there I used the first night to scope the bars and see what took my fancy and I usually bought the gal (or gals) one LD and see if I could get her phone no. And hopefully followed up with a before or after work visit to my hotel or if you were lucky, meet her on her day off.
This worked for me and was a hell of lot cheaper than paying upwards of 6,000 Pesos for the gal!Some time the girls won't go for the phone number gig when their loyal to that bar or really not that into you in that case then what do you do? Pay or just look for girl with similar big tits or ass?
And that's a plus 1 for me too on this strategy. I have around the Burgos St. Scene in the past, it would seem that the Club BF plus a big fee to the girl, makes it outrageously expensive to take out a girl out during club hours. When I visited there I used the first night to scope the bars and see what took my fancy and I usually bought the gal (or gals) one LD and see if I could get her phone no. And hopefully followed up with a before or after work visit to my hotel or if you were lucky, meet her on her day off.
This worked for me and was a hell of lot cheaper than paying upwards of 6,000 Pesos for the gal!That's all very well but it can land the girl in a lot of hot water with her employers. If a girl volunteers to sneak out or volunteers to come over on her days off, that's fine. But trolling around the bars trying to get the girls to do the wrong thing seems a bit desperate. Why not just get on the dating sites & take your pick from those?
AV.
Member #4698
11-01-14, 20:56
Day 52 Saturday April 19,2014 Makati 1 - The Fairmont Makati:
So I arrived from Subic at the Fairmont Makati Hotel around 3:45 pm and I was very impressed with the service and quality of the hotel. This has to be one of the finest hotels in the Philippines. Check in at the Fairmont was fast and efficient. The receptionist advised me to join the Fairmont Club in order to have unlimited free Wi Fi in my room. All I had to do was accept their offer and I was automatically enrolled. Then a bell boy escorted me up to my 6th floor corner deluxe room.
The room was large and well appointed. During my stay the entire staff was very informed and always seemed to go out of their way to be helpful and considerate. The Spectrum Restaurant is a very good upscale restaurant and I really liked the pool here. I used to stay at the New World Makati before its renovation for around 4000 p per night, but I won't stay there any longer since they raised their rates over 40%. The New World can't compare with the Fairmont.
It should be noted that the Fairmont and the Raffles Hotel are in the same building and share the same restaurant. Each hotel has its own separate lobby, pool and private elevators although you can easily walk from one lobby to the other.
The Fairmont is the less expensive option and it occupies the first 8 floors of the building. The Raffles Hotel occupies the remaining higher floors. The rooms at the Fairmont begin with a generous 40 sq. Meters. I believe the rooms at Raffles are all suites beginning with 60 sq. Meters. The size along with the higher floors accounts for the $100 differential between the two hotels. I was informed that both hotels are managed by the same company under the banner of FHRI Hotels and Resorts. The building in which both hotels operate, is owned by Ayala. Ayala takes 10% of all revenues as rental, as they do for all the hotels that they own in Makati which includes Shangri La, New World, Intercontinental and Mandarin Oriental.
My only complaint about the Fairmont concerned the difficulty of getting a taxi at 8 pm when I usually wanted to go out. The hotel is new and a lot taxis are not aware of it yet because the hotel driveway is off Palm Drive, a side street. On my 2nd night here I waited 10 minutes for a taxi. After that experience, I found it faster to cross Makati Ave and hail a taxi from the Greenbelt Mall.
The Fairmont is obviously girl friendly. Every night that I brought girls back, the staff was always respectful and very polite to my guests and me. I plan to stay at the Fairmont again when I return to Makati next year.
I hadn't eaten anything all day so after I checked in I went down to the Spectrum Restaurant for a bite to eat. The gourmet cheeseburger I ordered was outstanding. It was so flavorful and juicy. The hand cut double fried French fries were top notch as well. Before I left on my trip, my Dad and I had a farewell lunch at the Capitol Grill Restaurant in Ft Lauderdale. The Fairmont cheese burger and fries was just as good as if not better that Capital Grill's offering. While I was waiting for my order, my friendly waiter brought over a complementary bowl of very tasty pumpkin soup from the buffet.
After lunch I hung out at the pool for an hour and relaxed. Then I went upstairs to my room and caught up on some emails. I checked my cell phone and there were a bunch of texts from T. The last I heard from her was on Wednesday when she told me she wasn't coming to her bar that night. By Friday she was wondering where I was and began asking to see me again. I texted her back telling her I was in Makati. She returned my text almost instantly asking when I was coming back to Subic. I called her up and told her not until next year. She said she missed me and said she wanted to come down and see me in Makati. I had to be gentle, but firm with her, like I was with J and nip that idea in the bud. We exchanged email addresses and I told her I would stay in contact with her until I saw her again in 2015. Next year I will be bringing my unlocked Samsung Galaxy S4 to Asia instead of my reliable old LG dumb phone and I will be using Viber, WeChat, and WhatsApp to henceforth stay in touch with my girls.
I had planned to check out Burgos Street tonight, but after talking to T, I laid down on the bed to relax a little and watch some TV before going out at around 9 pm. I dozed off and awoke around 11:30 pm. I knew I would regret it later, but at the time, I could not get motivated enough to even go across the street and see what was going on at Havana Café. Ha Ha. But guys, stay tuned for my next 3 reports. Some of the best stuff is still yet to come! I ended my trip on a high note.
Member #4698
11-01-14, 21:06
Day 53 Sunday April 20,2014 Makati 2 - Easter:
I woke up around 10 am. I went down to the lobby and had a double shot skinny latte and a banana muffin in the Fairmont pastry shop. Then I walked around Makati. I needed to exchange some dollars and purchase a few necessities. Before I began walking around town, I was a little worried that it being Easter Sunday, all the malls would be closed and downtown Makati would be a ghost town. I was wrong. Glorietta, Greenbelt, and Landmark were not only open Easter Sunday, but they were jam packed with Filipinas of all stripes. I exchanged a few hundred dollars at a nearby currency exchange and continued my walkabout over to Ayala Triangle Park and then back to the Fairmont by way of the Greenbelt malls.
When I got back to the Fairmont, I checked out pool and found it was crowded with vacationing Filipino families and their noisy splashing little kids. So I went back up to my room and checked up on my emails and text messages. T had sent me a few messages overnight and so had J.
It was now around 12:30 pm so I decided to partake in the sumptuous Fairmont Champagne Sunday Buffet going on in the Spectrum Restaurant. They had a Seafood station, a separate sushi and sashimi station, a dim sum station, a Chinese roasted duck station a roasted whole pig station, a BBQ station with Prime Rib, Lamb Shoulder and whole Turkeys, Seafood Paella and various pasta plates, a fresh fruit and desert station and of course the Champagne Station. It was way too much food, but so good. I knew this was going to be my only meal of the day. The price for all this was 3,888 p net per person with unlimited Champagne and 2,777 p net per person without Champagne (just unlimited fresh fruit juice). I went without the booze. I wanted to preserve myself for later.
I was stuffed after lunch and I went back to the pool to try my luck. Thank God, the noisy boisterous Filipino families had burned out on the sun and were gone, leaving only a few crazy Farang sun worshippers in their place. The pool was now a quiet and calm oasis. I swam a few laps to try to work off some of my lunch, but soon gave up on that noble idea. The Philippine weather was just great for doing absolutely nothing by the pool or the beach whatever the case may be. There was not a cloud in the sky.
I hung around the pool for around 90 minutes. Then I called it quits when I started to feel like some of the meat on the Spectrum Restaurant grill. I can't remember what I did the rest of the afternoon. I vaguely recall taking another mall walk, people watching and then later watching some TV in my room.
Around 8:00 pm, I couldn't wait around any longer so I headed over to Burgos. The first bar I checked out was Stardust, but along the way I met a charming massage girl named Denise on the street along with several other massage girls. Because Denise was young and cute, I stopped and had a little chat with her. Denise first wanted to know where I was staying and for how long. Then she smiled and offered to come to my room to give me a "massage". I asked her how much and she indicated that there was one price to go to her nearby massage studio and a higher price to go to my hotel room. I forgot what she wanted for a session back at Gold Massage, but I remember Denise asked for 2500 p for a session back at the Fairmont which she told me included 500 p going to her massage parlor. She gave me a pretty good idea that anything I wanted, she would provide.
I have often been tempted by these Burgos Street massage girls and wondered what they would be like in bed. I am pretty sure the sessions would be good. Denise gave me a seductive look and acted like she really wanted to go back to my room. Her words were, "do not hesitate, Sir. Take me now. " But it was too early to go off with her "now" before checking out any of the Burgos Bars. I took her business card instead, just in case, ha ha and I told her I might call her later. Then I headed to Stardust.
At Stardust, there were around 8 girls dancing on the stage and plenty more girls sitting around at various tables. There were only a handful of customers. Easter was apparently a slow night although it was still very early by Burgos standards. A couple of girls came over and said Hello,. I bought a SML (for 55 p a last call happy hour price) and paid for it on delivery so I could move around the bar and get better looks of the girls. A couple of girls looked real good to me and I began to debate which girl intrigued me more.
Then I ran into Marie who offered to give me a massage. Something was fucked up with my right shoulder. I think it was due to the way I had slept my last night in Subic with J laying on top of the arm all night. Anyway my shoulder was hurting a little when I moved my arm a certain way so I let Marie give me a massage. She said she was 30 and I liked the way she looked. Her hands felt great on my sore shoulder. I gave her a 100 p tip and bought her a drink.
We sat down in a booth. She confirmed that this was a slow night and I should have been here Friday night when things were crazy. I asked her if she ever went out with customers and she said no, but we were holding hands and kissing occasionally, so I knew I could have her if I really wanted her. Then the show began and 4 showgirls came out and gave an excellent choreographed dance act. Now these girls were ALLRIGHT, I mean HOT and I forgot about my little infatuation with Marie. After the show the 4 showgirls disappeared and I got discouraged, so I paid my bill and told Marie I might come by Monday night to see her again. We kissed goodbye and I left.
I walked back down Burgos to Rogues Bar, one of my all-time favorite Burgos Street bars. The girls here are always sex crazy plus prices here are very reasonable. Last time I was here I hooked up with a girl by the name of Kim. She turned out to be a real nice girl back in my hotel room, very sweet, but in the bar she was very sexually forward and she seduced me. So I walked in and didn't pay much attention to the girls in the front of the bar. I walk to the back near the pool tables and sat down. There were more customers here than at Stardust. Soon two girls approached. One seemed a little shy. The other girl was the opposite of shy. I kind of liked the look of the shy one; however, Ch was not a stunner. Still she looked pretty good to me.
I think I should note that Rogues girls are seldom stunners, but as I said above, I have never taken a bad girl from this bar plus Rogue's girls always molest me in the bar. The other girl soon disappeared and Ch and I started getting acquainted. Then a third girl approached us with a sexy, naughty grin on her face and Ch introduced her to me as Queenie, her older half-sister. Oh yeah! So both girls were all over me. I had my arms around Ch (AKA Mi) and Queenie was dirty dancing for me and then she pulled her top up, showing me her very pretty "A" cup ta ta's and she suggested I take a lick if I wanted to. What could I do? I had to kiss her brown nipples.
A waitress came by and I bought drinks for the girls. Ch, the shy one, suddenly suggested we go to one of the booths so she could give me a hand job. Did I say I initially thought she was the shy one? Well she was until her half-sister showed up. I agreed that a more private booth would be a good idea, so the three of us headed over to a side booth.
In the booth Ch immediately unzipped my fly and found my dick while Queenie again lifted her top up so I could continue kissing her great pointy "A" cup nipples. Of course I was instantly hard and soon I was kissing both sisters while they in turn were both playing around with my dick under the table. I slide my hand under Queenie's short short pants and found her vagina. Queenie said something like, "this is your dream come true" and I said something dumb like, "yeah baby, you are sweet. " LOL. Actually, having sisters do me at the same time is pretty high on my bucket list. I have always wanted to have two sisters. But Ch and Queenie were half-sisters and they did not look, act, or dress alike. They told me they had the same mother, but different fathers. Ch, the younger sister was the more innocent of the two, if you can call giving a customer she just met 5 minutes ago, a hand job in a bar in front of everyone who walked by, innocent. Queenie, on the other hand, just oozed sexual prowess and was the "naughty" older sister. Ch was shorter and curvier. She had what appeared to be "be" cups and acted more demure. Queenie was tall for a Filipina and thin, although very sexy and she was sexually extrovert.
Soon the girls were asking me to barfine them both. "Only 1600 p for each of us," they said and I was sorely tempted, but I began to question if I had the power to do both girls justice. I had to admit that with all this shagging, 2-3 times a day in Subic, let alone Macau and BKK, it had drained me a little and as much as I wanted both sisters and could clearly see how well they worked together in tandem, believe it or not, I decided to only barfine little Ch, the innocent one. Ha Ha. Had I lost my mind? Maybe. If they had more closely resembled each other or I had been a little hornier, then I would have taken the two half-sisters. I have a feeling, though, that I will see these two again on my next trip.
Queenie started acting all heartbroken and began wiping away her fake tears after hearing my decision, but she took the news like a champ. I told her I would come back and barfine her next time and I gave her a 200 p tip for being so sexy and nice and for giving me her nipples to kiss and her clit under the table to massage. She smiled and we kissed a bit as we waited for Ch to get dressed. Ch returned looking pretty good in a grey tight fitting dress. I wondered how we would be received at the upscale Fairmont, not that I give a damn. I should add that the Rogues "barfine" or take out charge was 1700 p and Ch wanted 1600 p which I assumed was for ST. This may sound like a lot to AC and Subic punters, but actually Rogues is one of the less expensive Burgos Street Bars. It should be noted that these bars have a different pricing structure than the one in existence in AC or Subic Bars. It is set up more like Cowboy and Nana Bars with a barfine going straight to the house and a service charge paid separately afterwards to the girl.
In the taxi ride back to my hotel, Ch and I was all lovey dovey, but I noticed that now when she was alone with me, without her sister around, Ch reverted back to a demure and innocent girl. She now acted much more modest than in the bar and more girlfriend like rather than porn star like. I noted the difference, but it still looked like it was going to be a great night.
Back in the room we got into the GFE right away with a lot of kissing. Then Ch decided we should take a shower. She took off her clothes and I liked what I saw. She had a thin spinner body and without her pushup bra, she was sporting ample sized "A" cup breasts for her weight and body type. She said she was going to be 21 in September. She told me she had a 2 year old kid, but I couldn't tell from looking at her. Her small breasts were very round and firm with only the slightest sign of stretch marks which I only noticed because she called my attention to them.
We fooled around in the shower and then got back into bed. She went down on me and I managed to reach around to caress her tits and then to find her little clit. After a while, I brought her back up top and we began kissing some more. Then Ch asked for a condom. I hate them, but I got to admit that I felt good about her because she was being careful. Condom on and she got on top. We started out slow and she felt real good. Soon I flipped her over and finished her off in mish. Then we held each other for a long time before we took another shower and cleaned off.
Back in bed we lay together and talked and of course Ch (Mi) got around to telling me her sad story. Seemed she was 18 and started hanging out with some people she thought were cool. One night they got her drunk at a party and she lost her virginity to some dude or dudes, she does not know who, and later she found out she was pregnant. Now this is what she told me and I am merely relaying her torch song. Whether it is true or not or partially true or not, I do not know. But I do believe that she is essentially a nice girl who found herself in a bad, very difficult situation and is trying the best she can to survive and make the best of things. We talked a little about Queenie, her older sister, who is definitely more hard core. Anyway I really liked little Ch and thought she was real cute although she is definitely not a stunner.
I started kissing her again and that morphed into round 2. Apparently I did have enough power to handle both sisters, tarnation, but I don't regret taking only Ch too much. She turned out to be a great GFE. If I had taken both girls it would have been a wild orgy and a very different experience. We exchanged cell numbers and Ch said that if I wanted to see her I should text her tomorrow and she could possibly come by my hotel early before work. Ch also was interested in whether I had barfined any other Rogues' girls before and I told her about Kim. She apparently knew Kim and described her to me pretty well. She said Kim had been in the bar tonight, but she had been with another customer which was the reason I had not seen her. She asked if she should tell Kim I was in town and told her not too. I said that if I saw Kim, that would be nice and I would say Hi, but I was glad I had met her, Ch, and that we had spent the night together. Then we fell asleep in each other's arms.
Morning came. I had a hard on and gave it to Ch one more time. Then after we showered together, I gave her 3000 p because our ST had morphed into a LT and I wanted to do right by her. I really liked her and I escorted her down stairs so she could get a taxi. We kissed goodbye in the elevator. Tentatively we had plans to hook up tonight; tentatively I had a date with Queenie tonight too. So I had the option to take both sisters together in a menage if I wanted to, but this is Burgos Street and anything can happen. And as it happened, I did not go back to Rogues. But Makati was working out just as I planned it with the last days of my trip relaxing / basking in a luxury hotel and spending time with some great Makati girls. But with only two more nights left, I was starting to think that I should have set aside more time for this town.
Rubio Tonto
11-01-14, 21:56
Morning came. I had a hard on and gave it to Ch one more time. Then after we showered together, I gave her 3000 p because our ST had morphed into a LT and I wanted to do right by her. I really liked her and I escorted her down stairs so she could get a taxi. We kissed goodbye in the elevator. Tentatively we had plans to hook up tonight; tentatively I had a date with Queenie tonight too. So I had the option to take both sisters together in a menage if I wanted to, but this is Burgos Street and anything can happen. And as it happened, I did not go back to Rogues. But Makati was working out just as I planned it with the last days of my trip relaxing / basking in a luxury hotel and spending time with some great Makati girls. But with only two more nights left, I was starting to think that I should have set aside more time for this town. Excellent report! The Fairmont is an interesting option for Makati. What kind of deal did you get?
Member #4387
11-02-14, 02:04
Excellent report! The Fairmont is an interesting option for Makati. What kind of deal did you get?Great report Natty. I allways diguest reports from my playground Makati with great interest.
Natty can ofcourse answer himself your question as I have no clue if he had a deal of some sort or not. Anyway I have stayed at both Fairmont and Raffles. Raffles comes with an all in suite arrangments and butler service. I have Ascott as my favorite hotel but a year or so ago no vacant room at Ascott during my period of stay so I chose Fairmont (with a few days at Raffles as well to test the ground) without any deal. For same sized apt as in Ascott (I like spacious environment) I chose a cornered suite of lovely 85 sqm at the "lovely" price of 16500 piso per night. The Raffles suites runs higher and in the area of 20 to 25000 piso per night, I don't quite remember (it must be the butler service which I paid off to stay away and keep distance, making the price higher hehe).
As Natty observed it was hazzle taxiwice and I find still Ascott a better option as this alternative is attached to Glorietta4 mall and if you don't look while walking outside the hotel entrance you will actually, and I am not kidding, hit a taxi.
GoodEnough
11-02-14, 02:09
Natty, I'm glad you found the Fairmont acceptable. It's become my default hotel in Makati, and I no longer stay anywhere else. According to the Fairmont's GM, the hotel will open a French restaurant in August. It will be located on one of the lower floors of Raffles. Raffles, for those who may be interested, is a condominium, and many of those who purchased units did so with the intention of allowing the hotel to rent them out for varying periods. I have a close friend who lives there, and have seen his condo rental, which is lovely and quite spacious. All condo units that rent out are furnished by the hotel.
It's true that getting taxis when you want the, is sometimes fairly difficult. I've found that using Uber is an excellent alternative and I rarely have any problem finding Uber cars in the vicinity of the hotel, so that the wait is usually quite short. I take an Uber car to and from my office in Ortigas most of the mornings and afternoons that I'm there. For the truly anxious, taking a hotel car provides another alternative, but at Php475 per one way trip to Burgos, it's an expensive alternative.
GE.
Member #4698
11-02-14, 18:56
Natty, I'm glad you found the Fairmont acceptable. It's become my default hotel in Makati, and I no longer stay anywhere else. Raffles, for those who may be interested, is a condominium, and many of those who purchased units did so with the intention of allowing the hotel to rent them out for varying periods. I have a close friend who lives there, and have seen his condo rental, which is lovely and quite spacious.
I've found that using Uber is an excellent alternative and I rarely have any problem finding Uber cars in the vicinity of the hotel, so that the wait is usually quite short. I take an Uber car to and from my office in Ortigas most of the mornings and afternoons that I'm there.Hi GE, it is interesting news about a French Restaurant opening in August. I am slated to return in April so I guess the restaurant will not be up and running that soon.
I am sure the Raffles Suites are very well appointed and spacious. Actually I prefer I bedroom suites over deluxe rooms. They make me feel more at home and I like to entertain my girls in the living room first before we move on to the bedroom.
In BKK there are several high quality suite hotel possibilities at very competitive rates. I like the Fraser on Soi 11, the Marriott Apartment Hotels on Soi 24 and Thonglor (Soi 55), and several Grande Center Point Hotels. I reserved a week each at the Fraser, the Marriot Thonglor, and Grande Center Point T21 for my next trip. All except the T21 were around $92/ night. But that's BKK were high supply of rooms has competitively driven down the price. In Makati, unfortunately, there are not that many quality suites hotels and as a result hotel rates in Makati are higher than comparable hotel rates in BKK. I would love to stay at Raffles, but I will not pay their rate. Skogis's favorite hotel, the Ascott, is an interesting less expensive option, but at the time I booked the Fairmont, it had a 20% higher rate so I sacrificed on space by booking the Fairmont.
I have taken note of Uber Manila. I think I will give them a try for my next airport pickup and for longer metro rides, but for a short haul to Burgos I do not think it is worth it.
Great report Natty. I allways diguest reports from my playground Makati with great interest.
I have stayed at both Fairmont and Raffles. Raffles comes with an all in suite arrangments and butler service. I have Ascott as my favorite hotel but a year or so ago no vacant room at Ascott during my period of stay so I chose Fairmont (with a few days at Raffles as well to test the ground) without any deal. For same sized apt as in Ascott (I like spacious environment) I chose a cornered suite of lovely 85 sqm at the "lovely" price of 16500 piso per night. The Raffles suites runs higher and in the area of 20 to 25000 piso per night.Thanks Skogis. I always enjoy reading your informative trip reports. I remember first reading your BKK posts a while ago and then more recently your Makati reports. At first I thought you had gone a little loco for preferring Makati over Bangkok, but I am starting to become enthralled with Makati myself. My next two posts will describe why: I met a great girl at Bottoms and a great girl makes all the difference.
So I have scheduled two weeks for Makati on my next trip forgoing the charms of AC and Subic in favor of delving further into the nightlife scene of Metro Manila. I want to branch out from Burgos Street bars and get into the club scene more. I believe Makati has a lot more to offer than just bars with a whole lot a beautiful girls waiting in the wings.
Excellent report! The Fairmont is an interesting option for Makati. What kind of deal did you get?Thanks Rubio. I have been a fan of your photographic contributions for a while now. To say the least, I find many of your girls are very attractive and sexy.
The Fairmont is an interesting upscale option for Makati. I used to enjoy staying at the New World, but that was before their renovation when it was pretty easy to find offers for $100/ night. Since the renovation they have upped their rates to around $140/ night and at that price point I prefer the Fairmont hands down. I did not get a special deal per se from the Fairmont, but it was on the low side of the trending offers one sees on booking sites like Agoda, Booking dot Com, and Expedia. It was $150/ night for a deluxe corner room. The corner room was the enticement. It was nice to have windows on the west and south walls and they gave the room an open airy feel.
After I returned home, Fairmont started sending me monthly emails and offers. (I had signed up and had become a member of the Fairmont Club in order to receive free internet while I was originally there.) Last month as I was in the process of booking hotels for my next Asian trip, Chase Bank offered me their Fairmont preferred Visa credit card with a signing bonus of two free nights and complimentary breakfasts for two people at any Fairmont Hotel in the world. It was an offer too good to refuse. And as a result, I have booked two free nights at the Makati Fairmont on my next stay. I will still be paying the early bird regular rates for the rest of my visit, but the card returns 5 reward points for every dollar spent at a Fairmont Hotel and 2 reward points for every Airline reservation made with the card, plus no FX transaction fees so the points will add up quickly. There is a $95 annual fee (waived the 1st year) for the card, but that is offset by a free anniversary night at any Fairmont Hotel in the world so I think it is a pretty good deal for me and for Fairmont. What they got out of it is my making the Fairmont my default Makati hotel. What I got out of it is an overall reduced rate and free room upgrades when available. It is a win win for both parties as long as I was going to book the Fairmont anyway and I can cancel the card anytime to avoid a future annual fee should I decide not to stay with Fairmont any longer.
I still wish Makati had all the accommodation choices available in Bangkok though, but as I wrote in response to Skogis's comments, I am getting more and more interested in what Makati after dark has to offer and I think I will be spending more time here in the future.
Member #4698
11-02-14, 19:26
Day 54 Monday April 21,2014 Makati 3:
After CH left I checked out the Spectrum breakfast buffet. It looked great, but I did not feel like eating so much food, so I ordered a mushroom spinach omelet, wheat toast and coffee. The omelet was great and the chef added a side dish of extra sauted mushrooms and herbs that was over the top good.
After breakfast I started paying more attention to my fucking arm. It was killing me and I could barely lift the right arm above my shoulder. Shit, I was a physical wreck. I started popping Advil to ease the pain and gain back some mobility. Then I did the usual relax do nothing Makati shuffle and walked around downtown. I hung out at Ayala Park for a while and then walked all the way to Burgos Street.
When I returned to the Fairmont I noticed that the holiday crowd was gone and the Fairmont swimming pool was all mine. I relaxed and cooled off pool side for an hour or so. Then I checked my emails and watched a little TV. Later I took an afternoon stroll around the Greenbelt mall. I saw some really good looking women shoppers, but did not spot any FL's.
Around 8 pm I went back across the street to the Havana Cafe for a little dinner. I ordered the Adobong Kambing, a goat meat stew for 495 p. It was still too early to see much action. I only saw one table with obvious FL's.
I took a taxi to Burgos St and there was a lot more action with many more massage girls and FL's out on the street tonight than last night. The place was starting to jump and come alive. I stopped and flirted with a couple of massage girls. Yaya and Bea both offered their services and then gave me their cards for a possible future rendezvous when I said I might want them later. Next time I visit Makati I know will give one of these cute massage girls a try.
I started and ended my bar hop tonight in Bottoms Bar. IMHO Bottoms is one of the best if not the best Bar on Burgos Street because it has the most attractive girls and a great vibe, but unlike Stardust and Rogues, Bottoms is very expensive. The barfine here, what is paid to the bar, not the girl, is 3900 p and then the girls ask 4000 p or more on top of that. Ouch! The only saving grace is that the cost of all lady drinks is subtracted from the barfine. Lady drinks are 390 p each. So do the math: the barfine is 3900 p or 10 lady drinks or any combination thereof.
So I walked into Bottoms and walked past the bar on my left to an empty table in front of the stage. I sat down and scoped out the place. Around 15 girls were dancing on the stage amid strobe lights and plenty more girls were sitting at tables scattered around the bar. There were several customers in booths on the right and left of the stage with girls. There were a number of strikingly good looking dancers with great bodies. As I continued to look around I noticed a pretty girl sitting with her friends at a nearby table. I smiled at her and she smiled back.
Suddenly a mamasan from my past came up to my table, smiled and said Hi. I knew Mama Apple from previous visits and she recognized me. Apple must have been a real looker in her day. She still looks pretty good, but she has let her ass get a little large. Ha Ha. In fact, everything on her has gotten a little large, including her breasts which are huge. I ordered a SML for myself and Mama Apple hit me up for a shot of Tequila. She then suggested with a broad arm gesture that I ask over one of her girls. I smiled and said I was just looking at the moment. She downed her shot. Then she got up and brought back the very girl I had just traded smiles before Mama Apple had come by.
Mi stood close to me and smiled as she was introduced. Normally I prefer not to have Mamasan intros because I like to find my own girls, but in this case, Apple was merely expediting our meeting since we had already exchanged smiles and I already was attracted to Mi's exotic pretty face and her firm body. Mi was wearing only suspender straps as a top which covered her nipples but left everything else exposed. She was standing in front of the table in between my legs. Without any hesitation, she waved her straps aside and they fell to her waist revealing her beautiful small round tits and very appetizing nipples. She offered me her breasts and I started kissing them. Mama Apple smiled at my acceptance of her girl. What a matchmaker! I asked Mi what she wanted to drink and she said Tequila. So I ordered a round for the two if us. Mi began to dirty dance, straddling me, rubbing my crotch up and down with her body, and soon we started making out. I was very attracted to this girl and I wanted to get more intimate with her out of the spotlight, so I suggested we move to a more private booth above us to the side of the stage. Mama Apple escorted us over to a back booth and then she left us alone.
Mi and I immediately embraced and began kissing again. She was so hot. I thought the sister action last night at Rogues Bar was pretty damn good and it was, but this was better! Mi remained topless and kept giving me her tits to kiss. She lowered her bikini bottom so I could see her pussy and massage it. Then she lay back almost completely prone on her back in the booth and I got on top of her making out with her while my hand was still massaging her pussy. She was so passionate and sexual.
A waitress came by and nonchalantly interrupted us asking if I wanted to order another round of Tequila. I said yes and went back to Mi. As the night wore on we downed more shots of Tequila and continued our passionate interludes. At one point Mi suggested we do Tequila body shots so she rubbed lime and salt from the top of her pussy to her nipples and then placed the lime in her mouth. I swallowed my shot and then licked my way up from her pussy to her waiting mouth. Then she rubbed lime on my body and did the same to me.
I knew I had to barfine this girl. At some point I asked what her price was and she said 5000 p to which I made a funny exaggerated face. She quickly laughed and advised me that I should never ask a girl what she wanted. She said a girl might reply that she wanted a Ferrari or a house. I laughed and said I am not buying you a Ferrari no matter what you do and then we both laughed and kissed away our little price negotiation. Her real price was 4000 p ST and 5000 p LT which is standard for Bottoms Bar girls. I do not know if she was teasing, testing, or just upselling me with her initial 5000 p response. It was the only slightly dry financial note in the entire evening with this girl and it only lasted less than a 30 seconds. The rest of my time with her was extraordinary. I committed to a ST session, but added that if we were both having a good time, I wouldn't mind if we let go LT and she was ok with that. So I told her I would barfine her and she called over the Mama Apple who ran through the Bar price guidelines. After I formally agreed to the barfine, Mi left to change her clothes. I had bought Mi four Tequila shots in total so Mama Apple lowered the barfine from 3900 to 2340 to account for the lady drinks. I had bought Mama Apple one Tequila shot earlier before she introduced Mi to me and that drink remained on my tab. Apple then offered me a Tequila shot on the house, ha ha, which I accepted, but then I had to buy Apple another shot too so there was no net gain. I settled the bill and tipped Mama Apple 200 p. She was worth it and she was most appreciative. Then she left. I learned later from Mi that Mama Apple had gone back stage to the dressing room to tell Mi to get ready quickly for me and to not wear her underwear. I am not making this shit up.
Mi soon returned looking radiant and very sexy. On the way out of the bar she said goodbye to 5 or 6 of her friends. I said "aren't you going to introduce me to your friends" and she laughed. But seriously, her friends looked really good. We made out in the taxi back to the Fairmont Hotel. Mi said she had been here a couple times and she explained directions to the taxi driver who appeared lost.
In the room Mi quickly started taking off her top and bottom. She WAS NOT wearing panties. We started making out on the bed and then adjourned to the shower were Mi cleaned me everywhere and we started playing around by massaging each other body to body. Mi lifted her leg and I started massaging her pussy with my hard on. The shower scene was pretty intense. Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention this, as we walked hand in hand to the shower, Mi asked if I liked threesomes because she said she had a few girlfriends who would love to meet me and get it on with us manage style. I said I would love to meet your friends.
In bed we started to DFK again and then I began to kiss and suck her beautiful nipples. I looked down and saw her pretty little shaven pussy and could not resist it. Mi was almost immediately wet and definitely enjoyed what I was doing to her. She closed her thighs around my head and murmured something. After a while I came up and kissed my way back to her lips and we made out. Then it was Mi's turn to smoke me and smoke me she did. Her skills were really good. She deep throated me and I could feel the back of her mouth. I started to feel an orgasm building so I had to stop her. She said she did not want to stop and wanted to smoke me some more. I said, "I want to cum in your pussy," so she said ok; I will smoke you some more later.
Mi turned out to be a condom girl and like the night before, although I wanted to do her bareback, I felt good about the fact that such a gifted sexual provider was also a careful girl. As I said before I really liked this girl. So condom on and Mi got on top and rode me expertly and passionately with several different cowgirl moves. Soon I could not hold back and told her I was going to cum. This seemed to turn her on even more. I had my orgasm, but Mi did not stop and continued to shag me. My dick stayed hard and I enjoyed the extra time in her pussy. But then as all good things must end, I started to shrink. Mi noticed the shrinkage and that was the end of Act 1.
We showered and played around a little. Then we moved back to the bed and talked for an hour or more. I was very impressed with how god damn cool this girl was. She was not like any PI girl I have ever been with before. I will try to write down some of the things we talked about later. Part of her coolness was her attitude. Unlike so many Pinays I have shagged before, Mi did not have a tragic torch song of her life to sing to me. She was upbeat. She mentioned a couple of her international boyfriends who had taken her to Ubud, Singapore, BKK and the like, but mentioning the BF's was only as part of the conversation. Her focus was always on the cool things she did and saw while travelling. And she had good insights. We also talked about Manila clubs and restaurants and Mi offered to show me around.
We started making out again and then Mi went down on me. After a while I asked her to give me her pussy so we could 69. We went at it for at least another 20 minutes. My mouth and chin was soaking wet. Then I got up behind her and shagged her doggy style. I lasted a very long time and Mi finally collapsed onto her stomach, but I continued to give it to her and she encouraged me to keep going. Finally I rolled her over and finished her off in missionary. Afterwards we slowly recovered in each other's arms. Then we took a shower together and got back into bed.
We never talked about Mi spending the night. She just did. Before we fell asleep she told me she had an apartment in Makati that she shared with 3 other girls. We exchanged cell numbers and I told her I would drop by her bar Tuesday night to see her. She asked me to call her around 3 or 4 pm. We talked about other stuff, then I feel asleep with Mi wrapped around me.
Early in the morning Mi woke up and said she had to go. I escorted her down to the hotel lobby to get a taxi. I had really fallen for this girl and I couldn't help getting affectionate with her in front of the doormen while we were waiting for the taxi. She was not embarrassed in the least to show her affection to me as well. She waived as the taxi pulled out of the driveway.
My fucking right arm was killing me. I had practically no mobility. I could barely lift it to brush my teeth. I went back up to my room and popped some more Advil. Christ, 55 days on the road and I was falling apart, a physical wreck. 555. But I had one more night and there was nobody I wanted to share it but hip, sexy, Mi.
So all in all and after only one night, Mi instantly became my favorite Filipina of the trip. She had given me one of my best nights, in the top 5 anyway, of my entire trip. I couldn't help thinking what a great way this was to end my trip with a truly amazing girl. Mi is 26 years old, which is over the hill by Filipino standards, luckily it is not over the hill by my standards. Looking at her photos, I have to say, they do not do her justice. She is much prettier in person. The lighting in the room was horrible. I made a mental note that for all future trips to stop bullshitting around and to definitely bring an external flash, maybe even my Nikon SLR. I made another mental note to try to take better shots tonight by working the lighting in the room as much as possible. Tonight was just 12 hours away. My last night in Makati! Where did it all go?
Day 54 Monday April 21,2014 Makati 3:
After CH left I checked out the Spectrum breakfast buffet. It looked great, but I did not feel like eating so much food, so I ordered a mushroom spinach omelet, wheat toast and coffee. The omelet was great and the chef added a side dish of extra sauted mushrooms and herbs that was over the top good.
After breakfast I started paying more attention to my fucking arm. It was killing me and I could barely lift the right arm above my shoulder. Shit, I was a physical wreck. I started popping Advil to ease the pain and gain back some mobility. Then I did the usual relax do nothing Makati shuffle and walked around downtown. I hung out at Ayala Park for a while and then walked all the way to Burgos Street.
When I returned to the Fairmont I noticed that the holiday crowd was gone and the Fairmont swimming pool was all mine. I relaxed and cooled off pool side for an hour or so. Then I checked my emails and watched a little TV. Later I took an afternoon stroll around the Greenbelt mall. I saw some really good looking women shoppers, but did not spot any FL's.
Around 8 pm I went back across the street to the Havana Cafe for a little dinner. I ordered the Adobong Kambing, a goat meat stew for 495 p. It was still too early to see much action. I only saw one table with obvious FL's.
I took a taxi to Burgos St and there was a lot more action with many more massage girls and FL's out on the street tonight than last night. The place was starting to jump and come alive. I stopped and flirted with a couple of massage girls. Yaya and Bea both offered their services and then gave me their cards for a possible future rendezvous when I said I might want them later. Next time I visit Makati I know will give one of these cute massage girls a try.
I started and ended my bar hop tonight in Bottoms Bar. IMHO Bottoms is one of the best if not the best Bar on Burgos Street because it has the most attractive girls and a great vibe, but unlike Stardust and Rogues, Bottoms is very expensive. The barfine here, what is paid to the bar, not the girl, is 3900 p and then the girls ask 4000 p or more on top of that. Ouch! The only saving grace is that the cost of all lady drinks is subtracted from the barfine. Lady drinks are 390 p each. So do the math: the barfine is 3900 p or 10 lady drinks or any combination thereof.
So I walked into Bottoms and walked past the bar on my left to an empty table in front of the stage. I sat down and scoped out the place. Around 15 girls were dancing on the stage amid strobe lights and plenty more girls were sitting at tables scattered around the bar. There were several customers in booths on the right and left of the stage with girls. There were a number of strikingly good looking dancers with great bodies. As I continued to look around I noticed a pretty girl sitting with her friends at a nearby table. I smiled at her and she smiled back.
Suddenly a mamasan from my past came up to my table, smiled and said Hi. I knew Mama Apple from previous visits and she recognized me. Apple must have been a real looker in her day. She still looks pretty good, but she has let her ass get a little large. Ha Ha. In fact, everything on her has gotten a little large, including her breasts which are huge. I ordered a SML for myself and Mama Apple hit me up for a shot of Tequila. She then suggested with a broad arm gesture that I ask over one of her girls. I smiled and said I was just looking at the moment. She downed her shot. Then she got up and brought back the very girl I had just traded smiles before Mama Apple had come by.
Mi stood close to me and smiled as she was introduced. Normally I prefer not to have Mamasan intros because I like to find my own girls, but in this case, Apple was merely expediting our meeting since we had already exchanged smiles and I already was attracted to Mi's exotic pretty face and her firm body. Mi was wearing only suspender straps as a top which covered her nipples but left everything else exposed. She was standing in front of the table in between my legs. Without any hesitation, she waved her straps aside and they fell to her waist revealing her beautiful small round tits and very appetizing nipples. She offered me her breasts and I started kissing them. Mama Apple smiled at my acceptance of her girl. What a matchmaker! I asked Mi what she wanted to drink and she said Tequila. So I ordered a round for the two if us. Mi began to dirty dance, straddling me, rubbing my crotch up and down with her body, and soon we started making out. I was very attracted to this girl and I wanted to get more intimate with her out of the spotlight, so I suggested we move to a more private booth above us to the side of the stage. Mama Apple escorted us over to a back booth and then she left us alone.
Mi and I immediately embraced and began kissing again. She was so hot. I thought the sister action last night at Rogues Bar was pretty damn good and it was, but this was better! Mi remained topless and kept giving me her tits to kiss. She lowered her bikini bottom so I could see her pussy and massage it. Then she lay back almost completely prone on her back in the booth and I got on top of her making out with her while my hand was still massaging her pussy. She was so passionate and sexual.
A waitress came by and nonchalantly interrupted us asking if I wanted to order another round of Tequila. I said yes and went back to Mi. As the night wore on we downed more shots of Tequila and continued our passionate interludes. At one point Mi suggested we do Tequila body shots so she rubbed lime and salt from the top of her pussy to her nipples and then placed the lime in her mouth. I swallowed my shot and then licked my way up from her pussy to her waiting mouth. Then she rubbed lime on my body and did the same to me.
I knew I had to barfine this girl. At some point I asked what her price was and she said 5000 p to which I made a funny exaggerated face. She quickly laughed and advised me that I should never ask a girl what she wanted. She said a girl might reply that she wanted a Ferrari or a house. I laughed and said I am not buying you a Ferrari no matter what you do and then we both laughed and kissed away our little price negotiation. Her real price was 4000 p ST and 5000 p LT which is standard for Bottoms Bar girls. I do not know if she was teasing, testing, or just upselling me with her initial 5000 p response. It was the only slightly dry financial note in the entire evening with this girl and it only lasted less than a 30 seconds. The rest of my time with her was extraordinary. I committed to a ST session, but added that if we were both having a good time, I wouldn't mind if we let go LT and she was ok with that. So I told her I would barfine her and she called over the Mama Apple who ran through the Bar price guidelines. After I formally agreed to the barfine, Mi left to change her clothes. I had bought Mi four Tequila shots in total so Mama Apple lowered the barfine from 3900 to 2340 to account for the lady drinks. I had bought Mama Apple one Tequila shot earlier before she introduced Mi to me and that drink remained on my tab. Apple then offered me a Tequila shot on the house, ha ha, which I accepted, but then I had to buy Apple another shot too so there was no net gain. I settled the bill and tipped Mama Apple 200 p. She was worth it and she was most appreciative. Then she left. I learned later from Mi that Mama Apple had gone back stage to the dressing room to tell Mi to get ready quickly for me and to not wear her underwear. I am not making this shit up.
Mi soon returned looking radiant and very sexy. On the way out of the bar she said goodbye to 5 or 6 of her friends. I said "aren't you going to introduce me to your friends" and she laughed. But seriously, her friends looked really good. We made out in the taxi back to the Fairmont Hotel. Mi said she had been here a couple times and she explained directions to the taxi driver who appeared lost.
In the room Mi quickly started taking off her top and bottom. She WAS NOT wearing panties. We started making out on the bed and then adjourned to the shower were Mi cleaned me everywhere and we started playing around by massaging each other body to body. Mi lifted her leg and I started massaging her pussy with my hard on. The shower scene was pretty intense. Oh yeah, I almost forgot to mention this, as we walked hand in hand to the shower, Mi asked if I liked threesomes because she said she had a few girlfriends who would love to meet me and get it on with us manage style. I said I would love to meet your friends.
In bed we started to DFK again and then I began to kiss and suck her beautiful nipples. I looked down and saw her pretty little shaven pussy and could not resist it. Mi was almost immediately wet and definitely enjoyed what I was doing to her. She closed her thighs around my head and murmured something. After a while I came up and kissed my way back to her lips and we made out. Then it was Mi's turn to smoke me and smoke me she did. Her skills were really good. She deep throated me and I could feel the back of her mouth. I started to feel an orgasm building so I had to stop her. She said she did not want to stop and wanted to smoke me some more. I said, "I want to cum in your pussy," so she said ok; I will smoke you some more later.
Mi turned out to be a condom girl and like the night before, although I wanted to do her bareback, I felt good about the fact that such a gifted sexual provider was also a careful girl. As I said before I really liked this girl. So condom on and Mi got on top and rode me expertly and passionately with several different cowgirl moves. Soon I could not hold back and told her I was going to cum. This seemed to turn her on even more. I had my orgasm, but Mi did not stop and continued to shag me. My dick stayed hard and I enjoyed the extra time in her pussy. But then as all good things must end, I started to shrink. Mi noticed the shrinkage and that was the end of Act 1.
We showered and played around a little. Then we moved back to the bed and talked for an hour or more. I was very impressed with how god damn cool this girl was. She was not like any PI girl I have ever been with before. I will try to write down some of the things we talked about later. Part of her coolness was her attitude. Unlike so many Pinays I have shagged before, Mi did not have a tragic torch song of her life to sing to me. She was upbeat. She mentioned a couple of her international boyfriends who had taken her to Ubud, Singapore, BKK and the like, but mentioning the BF's was only as part of the conversation. Her focus was always on the cool things she did and saw while travelling. And she had good insights. We also talked about Manila clubs and restaurants and Mi offered to show me around.
We started making out again and then Mi went down on me. After a while I asked her to give me her pussy so we could 69. We went at it for at least another 20 minutes. My mouth and chin was soaking wet. Then I got up behind her and shagged her doggy style. I lasted a very long time and Mi finally collapsed onto her stomach, but I continued to give it to her and she encouraged me to keep going. Finally I rolled her over and finished her off in missionary. Afterwards we slowly recovered in each other's arms. Then we took a shower together and got back into bed.
We never talked about Mi spending the night. She just did. Before we fell asleep she told me she had an apartment in Makati that she shared with 3 other girls. We exchanged cell numbers and I told her I would drop by her bar Tuesday night to see her. She asked me to call her around 3 or 4 pm. We talked about other stuff, then I feel asleep with Mi wrapped around me.
Early in the morning Mi woke up and said she had to go. I escorted her down to the hotel lobby to get a taxi. I had really fallen for this girl and I couldn't help getting affectionate with her in front of the doormen while we were waiting for the taxi. She was not embarrassed in the least to show her affection to me as well. She waived as the taxi pulled out of the driveway.
My fucking right arm was killing me. I had practically no mobility. I could barely lift it to brush my teeth. I went back up to my room and popped some more Advil. Christ, 55 days on the road and I was falling apart, a physical wreck. 555. But I had one more night and there was nobody I wanted to share it but hip, sexy, Mi.
So all in all and after only one night, Mi instantly became my favorite Filipina of the trip. She had given me one of my best nights, in the top 5 anyway, of my entire trip. I couldn't help thinking what a great way this was to end my trip with a truly amazing girl. Mi is 26 years old, which is over the hill by Filipino standards, luckily it is not over the hill by my standards. Looking at her photos, I have to say, they do not do her justice. She is much prettier in person. The lighting in the room was horrible. I made a mental note that for all future trips to stop bullshitting around and to definitely bring an external flash, maybe even my Nikon SLR. I made another mental note to try to take better shots tonight by working the lighting in the room as much as possible. Tonight was just 12 hours away. My last night in Makati! Where did it all go?Dude,
You are the true Romantic. Your writings are getting legendary.
I'm in Manila next month, pm me Mi's info will ya. Do you have any extra Pesos I can buy from you before my trip?
PC out.
WestCoast1
11-03-14, 02:58
Dude,
You are the true Romantic. Your writings are getting legendary.
Dude, you don't have to quote Natty's entire post. A few lines will do.
Dashing Don
11-03-14, 05:56
Thanks for the great report Natty. Very detailed. Your report on Olongapo has made me reconsider that place. Its been years and you got me thinking of a return visit. As to wanting to do two sisters, I had the privilege in AC about ten years ago. It was great. They laid side by side like sardines in a can and I would pull out of one and into the other. I'm pretty sure I posted on that episode also. Also, funny you mention the Galleria mall in Ft Lauderdale. I've been in that mall many times, very upscale but I think its possible to troll it for decades and never get laid, as opposed to the PI malls. Viva la difference.
What else: The Manila / Boracay latin Dance Festival is coming up in two weeks. For a monger this can be a great additionto the the non stop banging regimen. Performances and socials every night from Thurs to Sunday in Makati and the following weekend it moves to Boracay. Get to meet local women also. In Colombia where I also like to go, a lot of monger are in to the salsa scene there. Its amazing how interested the Cupid girls get when I mention this Festival. They all want to go.
Dude, you don't have to quote Natty's entire post. A few lines will do.Yeah I didn't get that you don't have to include the whole messages. I know now you can delete what you want and reference that only.
PC out.
Member #4698
11-03-14, 21:07
Day 55 Tuesday April 22, 2014 Makati 4:
I was really hungry after Mi left so I tried the Spectrum breakfast buffet. It was great, but too much food. Then I took a long walkabout Makati tour to work off some excess calories. When I got back to the hotel it was time to relax and cool off by the pool. After 90 minutes I had more than enough sun and I headed back to my room to look over emails and other stuff.
T had been texting me like crazy yesterday afternoon and overnight so I called her around 4 pm. She said she missed me and added "please don't forget me. " I told her I would not forget her and I missed her too. Then I told her I would email her when I got back home and finally we said goodbye.
Next I texted Mi and told her I had a great time last night and I wanted to see her again tonight. She immediately texted back that she had a great time and she wanted to see me tonight too. So we made plans to hook up at her bar around 9 pm.
It was tough getting a taxi out of the Fairmont at around 8:30 pm so I walked down the block past the Landmark Mall and hailed a taxi. Bottoms Bar was going strong when I arrived just like the previous night. As soon as I entered Mamasan Apple saw me and came over to greet me with a smile. She escorted me to the last remaining free booth on the side of the stage. We sat down and I bought her a Tequila. She informed me that Mi was in the back getting dressed. She asked what I thought of Mi and I told her I thought she was a great gal. Mi soon came out and the two of us began where we had left off last night with some friendly DFK. After conferring with Mi, I ordered two shots of Tequila. My arm was feeling terrible, but this was my last night in town and I really wanted to have a good time.
After our 2nd or 3rd round of Tequila, Mi was topless lying on her back again and we were really going at it. My right arm was useless and I had to lie on my left side to avoid some real pain. I told Mi about my problem and she did all she could to alleviate my discomfort.
At one point in the night, Apple came back to our booth while I was kissing and massaging Mi's breasts and the Mamasan sat down right next to us smiling and complimenting us that we made a great couple. I smiled back at Apple and told her I thought we made a great couple too. Then I turned my attention back on Mi and we went at it like Apple wasn't there. We didn't even notice when Apple left again.
Bottoms sure has a great atmosphere with their strobe lights flashing and about 15 attractive girls dancing on a stage that protrudes into the seating area as opposed to dancing on a stage that is just perpendicular and in front of the seating area. The bar really was a visual flair and is a sight to behold. More importantly, I think this bar has the best looking and sexiest girls on Burgos. I would have loved to make video here, but unfortunately Apple told me it is not allowed. I looked around and all the booths were taken and the other customers were getting intimate with their girl (s) too. What a fucking vibe this place has! Of course, you might find a few more attractive girls at Pharaohs KTV or at the hot Makati clubs like Grammercy 71, Palladium, or Time on any given night, but overall Bottoms really delivers with a great selection of girls and their respective positive attitudes. This is a great bar!
Mi and I downed another 3 shots each and then I barfined her. Mama Apple came back and was so pleased at her matchmaking skills. She kept me company while Mi went to the dressing area to change. I had a buzz on and I had my good arm nonchalantly around Apple. I remember telling her she was one hell of a beautiful woman and at some time in her past, this was very true. Ha Ha. Then Apple grabbed my hand and placed it on her breasts. I kidded her that she was a real temptress and she lowered her bra and showed me her nipples. So what could I do? I had to give them full "De" cup ta ta's a kiss.
After a little while Mi returned looking great in tight jeans and a flower pattern top. Mama Apple cut the barfine to 1560 p from 3900 p after taking into account the 6 lady drinks I bought for Mi (2340 p). She offered me a Tequila on the house, LOL, but I told her I had enough tonight. I gave her a 300 p tip and told I would see her again next time I came to town. Apple wished me a safe trip home.
Mi and I walked towards the door hand in hand. She said goodbye to a half dozen very sexy girl friends on the way out. Outside on the street Mi asked what I wanted to do ie if I was up for a little clubbing or if I was hungry. I said I had to get up early and so I did not want to stay out late. Then I asked her if she was hungry and she said she was a little. I said I was a little hungry too and we could order room service back at my hotel. In the taxi I told her I was leaving for the USA tomorrow morning and she said she wanted to stay with me the whole night until I had to leave for the airport.
So Mi and I headed back to the Fairmont for my last romp of the trip. We started fooling around as soon as we were in my room and then in the shower she knelt down and gave me a great blow job. When she got back up, we continued making out. Then while still in the shower, she turned around and asked me to fuck her from behind which of course I did as she leaned against the far wall. It was slippery on the wet tiles and I kept losing my traction, so we busted out of the shower and moved to the edge of the bathtub where Mi bent fully over the tub in order to get the best leverage and I entered her from behind again.
From the bathtub we moved to the bed. Mi laid down on her back at the foot of the bed and I did her while standing up. Then she moved more to the center of the bed and I got on top and gave her the missionary. After a while, I rolled her over and she got on top and she finished me off in Asian cowgirl with the souls of her feet planted firmly on the bed. It was a hell of a great shag, one of the best of the entire trip. I think I am falling in love with this girl. 555.
Afterwards Mi said she was hungry. So we looked over the menu and I ordered from room service. She decided on the Caesar salad with chicken and fresh mango juice. I ordered a cheeseburger and fresh mango juice also. We were fooling around in bed naked when the waiter knocked on the door. I threw on a bath robe and Mi hid under the sheets. It was very funny. As the waiter was leaving I started whipping her with my bathrobe cord and she came out from under the sheets smiling and hungry. Even though I protested, she insisted that I have half of her salad and she took a few bites of my delicious cheeseburger. After dinner we just talked for an hour or so and again I was very impressed and enthralled with how cool and worldly this girl was. Then since I had a 6:30 am wakeup call, we went to sleep. It was around 1 am.
I woke up around 5:30 in Mi's arms. I tenderly began to kiss her. She woke up and smiled. I continued to kiss and caress her and pretty soon after that Mi threw off the sheets and gave me another excellent blow job while she caressed my dick with her hands at the same time. Then she got on top and we shagged for the last time. It was really good and what a great way to end my memorable trip with this fabulous girl. I really like her and I think she is a keeper, but like she says, we will see.
Afterwards, we showered together and fooled around a little more. Then I cleaned out the safe and made sure everything was packed and I had not forgotten anything. Mi wanted to help so she pulled my carry on bag to the elevator while I pulled my big suitcase filled to the brim with mostly souvenir Thai T shirts and dirty laundry. I checked out at the front desk and my taxi to the airport was waiting for me outside. I offered the taxi to Mi, but she insisted that I take it and she would take the next available one. I took Mi aside and we said our goodbyes. I told her one more time how much I liked her and how beautiful and special I thought she was. She said, "Please no bola bola. If you really like me, we will see each other again. " What a girl! And then we kissed one last time and I got in the taxi. All my previous farewells with my girls had them seated in the taxi and me standing on the curb as we waved bye bye. This last time, I was the one in the taxi as we waived goodbye to each other until the taxi turned around the driveway and drove out of sight.
Member #4698
11-03-14, 21:17
Epilogue - the Long Trip Home:
My taxi driver asked if I wanted to take the Skyway to Ninoy Aquino International Airport Terminal 3 and I said yes. The travel time was less than 15 minutes. A friendly luggage handler offered to help as I got out of the taxi. He steered us through a separate door and past the waiting line of passengers straight to the ANA check in counter. I tipped him a 100 p. I was overweight thanks to all the Thai t-shirts I had bought and ANA clipped me for $50. Other than that, check in, security, and immigration was a breeze.
We boarded the plan on time and everything looked like a go. I was beginning to look forward to being home in 23 hours. Then the plane sat on the runway for 90 minutes. Oh Shit! That did not give any leeway to make my connection in Narita on a United Flight bound for Houston. But about an hour into the flight the captain came on the loud speakers and informed us he was making up for lost time on the ground and he expected the plane to land on time at Narita. May the Gods be praised!
So the plane landed on time and we wasted 10 minutes taxing to the gate. I hustled my ass through Japanese security. Why do connecting passengers have to go through security a 2nd time after they have already been screened at the original airport? I do not know, but in any case I emerged from security with 30 minutes to spare to board the United flight.
But a sexy little Japanese United Airlines representative was waiting for the connecting passengers to Houston outside of the security room. There were 8 of us travelling on to Houston and she informed us that we could not board the Houston bound jet. She said there wasn't enough time to transfer the baggage to the outgoing plane and so the eight of us transit passengers were "screwed". Thus, instead of a 23 hour flight from MNL to FLL arriving at 9:30 pm local Florida time, which is the ticket I bought from United based on total duration and price, the airlines was now playing a bait and switch game with its Manila passengers and putting us on a different United Houston flight leaving Narita 3 hours later. It was now going to be a 26 hour total duration flight landing at midnight local Florida time.
But, I did not dwell on the negative. My arm was feeling a whole lot better for some unknown reason and I was still basking in the glow from my fantastic final night in Makati with Mi. I think I love that girl. 555. Did I say that already? Anyway I had two United Club Passes so I used one in Narita and relaxed there for a couple of hours and I used the other club pass in Houston where I took a dump in one of their clean club bathrooms. While I was at the Club Room in Narita I emailed my Haitian maid and informed her I was arriving late and would she please stock my refrigerator with coke light, OJ, and turkey sandwiches. I then emailed my Dad and several friends telling them about my Narita delay. And finally I emailed Mi to let her know I was in Tokyo and thinking of her. Yada Yada.
On the flight home I managed to find an empty whole row (3 seats) and I laid my claim on them. I popped an Ambien and washed it down with a Bloody Marry. Boys and girls: you should not mix sleeping pills and alcohol. Do not do what I do. LOL. Then I put on my Bose noise canceling head phones and started to watch the Hobbit Part Deux, but I did not make it past the first 20 minutes before I nodded off.
We landed on time in Houston and immigration / customs was not a problem. I had a bit of a discussion though with a past her prime United stewardess on the way to FLL. It seems this flight, not the one I originally booked, did not have the additional leg room seating which I had paid for on my original flight. At first the B***** would not admit my seat was not an additional leg room seat, unbelievable. Then she admitted it, but said there was nothing she could do about it. I told her she could move me to an empty business class seat and she refused. I had another Bloody Mary and I didn't give a damn really, but I hated United for all their BS and I wanted them to know it. Ha Ha. It turned out later that United gave me a credit for the extra legroom seat I did not receive so everything worked out as good as could be expected.
I arrived in beautiful Fort Lauderdale International Airport around midnight, got my rental car, and drove home. My Macaw was happy to see me. I was dead tired, but not sleepy. My internal clock was on Manila time and it was noon there. I fixed myself a turkey sandwich and watched a little TV. Around 2 am I popped another Ambien and went to bed. I woke up feeling refreshed and brand new at around 9 am. I called my Dad and asked if he wanted to go to Panera Bread and have a cup of coffee. I brought along the two fake Patek Philippe watches I had bought at Mr. Jacks in Pattaya. My Dad chose the white face model. We had coffee and muffins and I told him about my trip, the PG rated trip. It felt good to be home. For a while anyway!
We had coffee and muffins and I told him about my trip...It's been said by others; I've enjoyed reading your really outstanding FRs. You have a gift with the written word. Thanks.
AlLostInSpace13
11-09-14, 04:35
Hello,
Any someone recommend a fair forex shop in the Greenbelt area?
Thanks,
Spaceman.
Econo Tech
11-09-14, 04:46
Hello,
Any someone recommend a fair forex shop in the Greenbelt area?
Thanks,
Spaceman.The are a couple in the block as the super market.
No recommendation though.
And rates not too far off. Wouldn't bother venturing out too far anyway.
Hello,
Any someone recommend a fair forex shop in the Greenbelt area?
Thanks,
Spaceman.Inside GB 1. Named something like Sanjy's or Sanry's. I don't know whether it's fair but I've haven't been surprised by the rates there. I wouldn't been surprised to find a money changer inside the Glorietta Mall. If you want to compare several places go over to the Burgos area; there are a few on Makati Ave and on Kalayaan.
Mongerer69
11-09-14, 13:09
Several blocks away from Greenbelt on Amersolo Street there is "Makati Square", kinda like an indoor Flea Market. Lots of Cell Phone repair shops, DVD, Flip Flops etc. On the main level there is a large office with Smoked Glass. Go in there. It has always had the best rates in Manila.
Member #4387
11-09-14, 14:39
Well I was staying a couple of days in my ex GF apartment around the Fort area. I was nursing my baby while mother travelled to Singapore for some biz. I was in desperate needs of some instant pussy. A one year old baby does not connect to well so I just informed the nanny I would come back anytime soon. I checked in at Ascott a couple of hours later.
In 10 hours I managed to squize in 5 girls (singles). For me a new "world record". This is how it went down:
At the Ascott I texted 10 girls from facebook hoping 1 or 2 of them would be available. I am sorry to say I was wrong. 8 out of 10 girls was ready for a meet up. I had to make up some bully bully story for 3 of the girls. For the others I sat the timings as in 2,4,6,8,10 pm.
2,4 and 6 girl arrived, got boinked, no stress. Arrival on time and departed when I found it convenient. All got bagstuffed with a couple of blue ones. From that never heard any hazzle regarding money. Number 6 girl departed a bit late so she mixed herself into nr 8 girls arrival. For nr 8 girls comfort, as I was escorting nr 6 out of the buiding, we finish the goodbye kisses in elevator so it looked pretty decent when I hooked up with number 8 girl.
We go inside room, like a champ I try to sex her but my fluid and stamina is running low on bats. I find some magic tools in my bag (dildo) and sex her through this. I get to [CodeWord134] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord134) on her chest as well (in bathroom). I pad down one [CodeWord103] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103) for the record. Without any reaction to mr junior I let him rest. Nr 8 girls leaves well pleased and happy. She is also late departurewice by the way so she runs into nr 10 girl. This happens all in a sudden (we sometimes complain the girls are late but this day everyone was on time or even worse, early), I can not think so I just kiss her goodbye in the view of nr 10 girl. Nr 10 girl is furious of anger, balming me for having a lot of girls. I manage somehow to calmher down, creating this nice lie the nr 8 girl was just a fellow cabincrew worker (yes I create some small lies in my mongering universe and "working as pilot" seems the easiest way around the real thruth.). I don't know if nr 10 girl bought the shit but atleast she pretended to do so. We fucked and I finaly managed to do a blanco ejaculation somewhere near her tits. On her question why I did not hoot white juice I told her I did have some cromosone trouble and my sperm allways blanko, haha.
A crazy day. But I will for the future stick by the 2 or 3 girls routine. 5 is to much.
Member #4698
11-09-14, 15:40
I pad down one isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord103 for the record.
A crazy day. But I will for the future stick by the 2 or 3 girls routine. 5 is to much.Too much is right, but everybody should test their limits just to see what they are. Sounds like it was a fun day even though it was a little over the top.
So what is this "CodeWord" stuff I see creeping into various ISG reports? Who is responsible for this new form of intrusion and censorship? I am well aware of the bi**H prohibition built into the ISG software, but the "CodeWord" thing seems to be something new and more ominous.
[QUOTE=Skogis;1642704.
In 10 hours I managed to squize in 5 girls (singles). For me a new "world record". This is how it went down:
What was the damage for each gal, 1500-2 k pesos or less each
I want to do something like this with a few DIA gals I'm lining up but I see 3 in 10 hrs not 5 haha
PC out.
Roll Aides
11-09-14, 18:13
Too much is right, but everybody should test their limits just to see what they are. Sounds like it was a fun day even though it was a little over the top.
So what is this "CodeWord" stuff I see creeping into various ISG reports? Who is responsible for this new form of intrusion and censorship? I am well aware of the bi**H prohibition built into the ISG software, but the "CodeWord" thing seems to be something new and more ominous.If you just click on one of the "Codeword xxx" links, you'll see an explanation of the situation by Jackson. Apparently, major credit cards companies, particularly MasterCard, are dictating to their processing companies a list of prohibited words that may not appear on a website for which they receive transactions. Ominous is the right word.
For the others I sat the timings as in 2,4,6,8,10 pm.LOL. Utter lunacy. Everyone one of those could have been derailed by late arrivals. The stars aligned for you. Well done.
yes I create some small lies in my mongering universe and "working as pilot" seems the easiest way around the real thruth. Does this "job" cause any hassles from the girls? The reason I ask is so many girls want to be FAs. Do you ever get anyone asking you for help with HR to make the connections to push through their application? If so, how do you handle it?
WestCoast1
11-09-14, 20:21
I try to sex her but my fluid and stamina is running low on bats. Sh*t, that's funny.
A crazy day. But I will for the future stick by the 2 or 3 girls routine. 5 is to much.I'm somewhat known for the 3-some, but jiminy 5 in a day? Hahaha. Killin' me!
Pip Jaeger
11-10-14, 00:01
If you just click on one of the "Codeword xxx" links, you'll see an explanation of the situation by Jackson. Apparently, major credit cards companies, particularly MasterCard, are dictating to their processing companies a list of prohibited words that may not appear on a website for which they receive transactions. Ominous is the right word.After reading Jackson's explanation I had a flashback to the turd storm after the album release of one of my favorite comedian's monologues; namely George Carlin's "Seven Words You Can Never Say on Television".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seven_dirty_words
I guess Wiki has enough juice to tell MC to f$#k off as they accept MC for donations yet all of (and possibly more) of the prohibited words are listed on their website.
Amazing that in this day and age a credit card company can dictate policy to an independent company. As RA said, "Ominous"; which may be the right and proper word, but IMHO utter bullsh*t is more likely what comes to people's minds.
Member #4387
11-10-14, 03:31
Does this "job" cause any hassles from the girls? The reason I ask is so many girls want to be FAs. Do you ever get anyone asking you for help with HR to make the connections to push through their application? If so, how do you handle it?No it realy does not cause any hazzles (so far). You are right many girls have a dream serving coffee onboard an airline. I easily put those dreams to rest by stating the alltitude requirements. Many of my girls are simply not tall enough so they would never have the chance working as a cabin attendant.
The tall ones ask a lot of questions and I answer the best I can. My old man was a pilot so I have picked up one or two things and I would say I know the industry quite well (atleast for a guy not working in it) so I sometimes, and I kid you not, will be helpful to them. Beeing a "pilot" makes it easy to allways be "on the move" and the girls buy it. When the girls ask their normal routine questions as in "how long you stay here"(hoping they can stay LT)? My response will be "I fly away tomorrow"(just bull ofcourse). Well ofcourse at some point I am actually going home "tomorrow" but you catch my drift I am sure, hehe.
No it realy does not cause any hazzles (so far). You are right many girls have a dream serving coffee onboard an airline. I easily put those dreams to rest by stating the alltitude requirements. Many of my girls are simply not tall enough so they would never have the chance working as a cabin attendant.
The tall ones ask a lot of questions and I answer the best I can. My old man was a pilot so I have picked up one or two things and I would say I know the industry quite well (atleast for a guy not working in it) so I sometimes, and I kid you not, will be helpful to them. Beeing a "pilot" makes it easy to allways be "on the move" and the girls buy it. When the girls ask their normal routine questions as in "how long you stay here"(hoping they can stay LT)? My response will be "I fly away tomorrow"(just bull ofcourse). Well ofcourse at some point I am actually going home "tomorrow" but you catch my drift I am sure, hehe.I've learned quite a bit recently about being an air-hostess wannabe from some of the girls I met from the Qatar Airways open house a few weeks back. Girls who are tall enough get passed over for minor blemishes and scars on the legs and arms, for instance. Though I know bugger all about the job, many of these dreamers know even less. They do almost no research. I think a lot of them believe that merely looking pretty in and of itself will qualify them. Models in the sky. Like you I've even given some helpful advice. A girl I know interviewed with Saudia the other day. She did almost no preparation except makeup and hair. I asked her if she knew anything about the airline. The blank expression in her eyes told me, "Of course not. " I pulled up wikipedia, copied a bit of info, emailed it to her, and told her to read it on the way the the interview. Sure enough, what question was she asked after she introduced herself? If my assumption that preparation for a job interview is done poorly by most is correct she likely outshone the rest of the stars.
Member #4387
11-11-14, 01:36
I've learned quite a bit recently about being an air-hostess wannabe from some of the girls I met from the Qatar Airways open house a few weeks back. Girls who are tall enough get passed over for minor blemishes and scars on the legs and arms, for instance. Though I know bugger all about the job, many of these dreamers know even less. They do almost no research. I think a lot of them believe that merely looking pretty in and of itself will qualify them. Models in the sky. Like you I've even given some helpful advice. A girl I know interviewed with Saudia the other day. She did almost no preparation except makeup and hair. I asked her if she knew anything about the airline. The blank expression in her eyes told me, "Of course not. " I pulled up wikipedia, copied a bit of info, emailed it to her, and told her to read it on the way the the interview. Sure enough, what question was she asked after she introduced herself? If my assumption that preparation for a job interview is done poorly by most is correct she likely outshone the rest of the stars.In my fleet of girls I have two cabinattendants. One works for Cebu Pacific ((5 J) and one works for Cathay (CX). They are both around 170 cm's. Stunning girls. But what they have in common is that they know far less of their designated airlines than I do. The Cathay pacific girl don't even know her Qirline is Hong Kong based and still thinks it is british I find that amusingly funny. On our next reuinon I have given her homework. The Hawaiian Airlines, hehe, she will have to answer from where it is based?.
FreebieFan
11-11-14, 01:43
. The Cathay pacific girl don't even know her Qirline is Hong Kong based and still thinks it is british I find that amusingly funny. On our next reuinon I have given her homework. The Hawaiian Airlines, hehe, she will have to answer from where it is based?.Thats very strange, as all CX attendants must undergo a 3 day life safety training conducted in Hong Kong.
Long time back, CX staff were all HK based, but in past few years, to reduce housing costs they became home country based, so they can based in HK, Manila, Sydney / Melbourne, LA, London and a few other places from where they can do working round trips, ie London to Hk to London.
Member #4387
11-11-14, 02:18
Thats very strange, as all CX attendants must undergo a 3 day life safety training conducted in Hong Kong.
Long time back, CX staff were all HK based, but in past few years, to reduce housing costs they became home country based, so they can based in HK, Manila, Sydney / Melbourne, LA, London and a few other places from where they can do working round trips, ie London to Hk to London.Yes I agree. It is totaly out of order but as an excuse if I am not wrong I think most of the Cathay aircrafts was carrying british flag(until relatively recently). These days their countrycode is B(the china code). Norway have LN. This can obviously be confusing for a girl having conducted all training whatsoever. Confusing bcs she is more occupied by her looks than typical safety issues. One time after boinking her she was in a hurry to go to Naia. I heard a big scream from inside bathroom, thinking maby someone died. I run to her rescue only to find out she didn't get her hairdoo as perfect as she wanted. I cracked myslef on the bathroomfloor not believing what I saw. I have tried telling her that Cathay is actually chineese these days but she has hard time believe me. I kid you not. One wiki search could probably make her enlightened but it seems she does not find time to do so. I dont say the girl is stupid as she has many things in order. Ofcourse beeing hopelessly in love with me does not make her life any easier as i am a coldhearted nice prick:-) As a general rule, if i worked for CX, i would atleast read myself up on the airlines history.
Commonglass
11-14-14, 06:12
I had an amazing first trip to Makati. Lots of good advice from Westcoast and some prep on FilipinoCupid. I arrived with a huge arsenal of plans for bar girls, mall pickups and civilians but spent so much time fucking girls from FilipinoCupid that I didn't have time for anything else.
I picked up a phone SIM card at the airport for approximately $15. The phone company people installed the card and updated my phone settings at no cost. I texted the girls from FilipinoCupid on the taxi ride to the hotel. I had three responses by the time I arrived.
I invited the hottest girl that replied on the taxi ride and she was sitting with me on my hotel bed in 45 minutes. About 5'3, 19 years old, tight body and hot. Some meaningless small talk followed for the next 25 minutes before I started kissing her and we took off out clothes and had sex. We fell asleep in each other's arms. I woke up in the middle of the night and took her again. Then again in the morning. No money was discussed at any point. I realize now that these ladies would never come to the hotel room without expecting to have sex, so the warm-up conversation should really be limited to 10 minutes. No seduction is necessary. I gave her 2000 pesos when she left.
By the next morning, the girls from FilipinoCupid were hounding me with texts. Lots of choices. I again chose the hottest of the set and she made a big deal about not meeting me at my hotel. This was fine with me as I wanted a tour guide anyhow. So, we met for dinner, walked around the city, and had a fun time. 4'11,21 years old, bikini perfect body. Also a cool chick, well-traveled, and super fun. Without me saying anything, she helped me find my way back to my hotel, followed me up the elevator and came into my room. We took off our clothes like we were old lovers, made out, and had sex. We fell asleep together. We woke up in the morning and had more sex. Then we enjoyed a free breakfast together at the hotel restaurant before she left. I gave her 1000 pesos when I said goodbye.
By now, the hottest girl that I was chatting with on FilipinoCupid had finally gotten back to me. I invited her to my hotel and she was waiting for me in the lobby when I got back. 5'5, 21 years old, super-hot. She was one of the hottest girls I saw while visiting Manila. I took her up to my room. We had awkward conversation for about 35 minutes. She seemed so sweet and innocent that I was even second-guessing my plans to fuck her. But I did anyhow. Again, I realize now that I was the one making things awkward by talking so much. Despite how innocent they seem, they come into your room with the expectation of having sex. Better to limit small talk to 10 minutes and then just start kissing. After sex, we went out for dinner. Then she took me around the city, showed me amazing local places, and introduced me to her friends. We actually had an amazing night. I might have fallen in love a little bit. At around 2 am, she put me in a taxi and sent me back to my hotel. I gave her 2000 pesos when I left.
I was horny again by the time I got to the hotel so I texted the girl from the first night and asked her to come over. She was in my room in 20 minutes. No words this time, just fucking. She had seemed really innocent the first time we had sex, but now I realize that these girls are open to direction. After fucking for 30 minutes, I had her suck me off which she did quite well until I came in her mouth. She swallowed. We fell asleep together. I ran out to an early morning appointment with her still in the bed. I put 2000 pesos in her hand while she was still half asleep. When I returned from my appointment in three hours, she was still there. So I fucked her again. Fantastic.
Lessons learned:
(1) Cock size is an issue for these girls. They are used to something smaller. Lube was absolutely essential and even with that all of the girls left with sore pussies. Bring lots of lube.
(2) Most of these girls were very poor. They made around 3500 pesos a month at their day jobs. Most of them had dental issues. I've never seen such hot ladies with bad (rotting) teeth before. They were very naive and unprepared for life. They dreamed of escaping their circumstances with a foreign man who would support them and their families. They all knew someone who had done this. They had no other plan to better their lives.
(3) Filipinas are the most beautiful and loving women in the world. I'm hooked.
(4) Everything Westcoast told me was true. I could have fucked 10 x more women on this trip if I'd wanted to. All 8's, 9's, and 10's. Thanks Westcoast!
(5) Every single girl that I fucked would have loved to be my girlfriend. I've never had so much genuine affection from hot girls in my life.
(6) The Philippines is a far, far better sex destination than Thailand. Far better. Unless you're an asshole, in which case Thailand is better prepared for you.
FreebieFan
11-14-14, 06:40
I had an amazing first trip to Makati. Lots of good advice from Westcoast and some prep on FilipinoCupid. I arrived with a huge arsenal of plans for bar girls, mall pickups and civilians but spent so much time fucking girls from FilipinoCupid that I didn't have time for anything else.
(3) Filipinas are the most beautiful and loving women in the world. I'm hooked.
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(6) The Philippines is a far, far better sex destination than Thailand. Far better. Unless you're an asshole, in which case Thailand is better prepared for you.Keep this wonderful feeling, and don't, repeat, repeat again, return.
There is no finer feeling than being awed by these ladies and the passion they can produce.
Sadly, your brain, will motivate, inspire, cajole, persuade, threaten you, that the next trip will / could be even better.
Sad truth is it won't get better.
Its like a drug and the first "high" is always the best and the most memorable.
In 20 years you will still be returning (regularly) trying to chase the feeling you had when you wrote your first report.
By then you will have enjoyed 100's, 1,000's and you will still not repeat or recreate the feelings of your first trip. But you will still enjoy the sight of a little brown lady laid (both meanings) on your bed.
WestCoast1
11-14-14, 08:03
I had an amazing first trip to Makati. Lots of good advice from Westcoast and some prep on FilipinoCupid. I arrived with a huge arsenal of plans for bar girls, mall pickups and civilians but spent so much time fucking girls from FilipinoCupid that I didn't have time for anything else.
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(3) Filipinas are the most beautiful and loving women in the world. I'm hooked.
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(5) Every single girl that I fucked would have loved to be my girlfriend. I've never had so much genuine affection from hot girls in my life.
(6) The Philippines is a far, far better sex destination than Thailand. Far better. Unless you're an asshole, in which case Thailand is better prepared for you.Stop! Stop! You will let the cat out of the bag, and everyone will want to go there. GFE sex to my right. GFE sex to my left. GFE sex in the city. GFE sex in the province.
Hard to put the toothpaste back in the tube. I hear you can even have 3-somes there.
I invited the hottest girl that replied on the taxi ride and she was sitting with me on my hotel bed in 45 minutes. About 5'3, 19 years old, tight body and hot. Some meaningless small talk followed for the next 25 minutes before I started kissing her and we took off out clothes and had sex..No pics of the hottest girl? I guess she couldn't have been that hot.
I again chose the hottest of the set and she made a big deal about not meeting me at my hotel. This was fine with me as I wanted a tour guide anyhow. So, we met for dinner, walked around the city, and had a fun time. 4'11,21 years old, bikini perfect body. We took off our clothes like we were old lovers, made out, and had sex. We fell asleep together. We woke up in the morning and had more sex. I gave her 1000 pesos when I said goodbye.
No pics of the next hottest girl! Okay. Lets try again.
By now, the hottest girl that I was chatting with on FilipinoCupid had finally gotten back to me. I invited her to my hotel and she was waiting for me in the lobby when I got back. 5'5, 21 years old, super-hot. She was one of the hottest girls I saw while visiting Manila. I took her up to my room. We had awkward conversation for about 35 minutes. She seemed so sweet and innocent that I was even second-guessing my plans to fuck her. But I did anyhow.By now we should be seeing a photo of these hot hot hot girls. No problem I can just imagine how hot they were because I have to.
They were hot hot hot!!
Your TR is (just) alright because of the route you took (filipinacupid) but because you were to lazy or chicken to ask for a pic or two you have little credibilty w / me.
Your TR lacks details in the action with no visual proof (photos) of the ladies you call hot, so for me your TR is somewhat weak. There were some interesting tidbits but otherwise just filler. Thanks anyway.
I was in Makati last May where I met this expensive bargirl. She was so hot I took a truck load of pics. So BRAH! HOT is WHAT IT REALLY IS, or just WORDS so easily tossed.
Yeah....
Commonglass
11-14-14, 09:43
Oh no! I didn't impress Socker!
I can live with that. In any case, I probably don't have anything to offer someone with his level of experience. My report is hopefully more valuable to a first-time visitor like me in terms of how things work in the Philippines. Just giving back in my small way as I was helped by the previous reports.
No pics of the hottest girl? I guess she couldn't have been that hot.
No pics of the next hottest girl! Okay. Lets try again.
By now we should be seeing a photo of these hot hot hot girls. No problem I can just imagine how hot they were because I have to.
They were hot hot hot!!
Your TR is (just) alright because of the route you took (filipinacupid) but because you were to lazy or chicken to ask for a pic or two you have little credibilty w / me.
Your TR lacks details in the action with no visual proof (photos) of the ladies you call hot, so for me your TR is somewhat weak. There were some interesting tidbits but otherwise just filler. Thanks anyway.
I was in Makati last May where I met this expensive bargirl. She was so hot I took a truck load of pics. So BRAH! HOT is WHAT IT REALLY IS, or just WORDS so easily tossed.
Yeah....
Member #4387
11-14-14, 10:16
Oh no! I didn't impress Socker!
I can live with that. In any case, I probably don't have anything to offer someone with his level of experience. My report is hopefully more valuable to a first-time visitor like me in terms of how things work in the Philippines. Just giving back in my small way as I was helped by the previous reports.You can't please them all and no need to react if someone not enjoy your FR. Atleast you wrote one and that we thank you for. I have stopped posting pics so in anycase from now on all my info regarding girls will be pretty much like yours. It is more boring but I can not simply take more risks beeing ratted by fellow readers here.
And one thing we can agree on what is a very beautiful (hot) girl to you may not be it for me. That is just what makes the world go around the fact that we like different thing. The girl posted by Socker (no pun intended) is not what I would consider a hottie to me but I deeply respect his view in how he viewed her. But sometimes the pics might not be giving out a girls full beauty.
I have met a Makati girl now, 168cm, 23 yo, 40 kg and she is amongst the top beauties I have seen here in phils or in other places around the globe for that matter (if we look away from the top model stars and other prepped up girls). She has all assets I look for and seems clever, she is well educated, comes with high recomandations from my embassy friend (she is a friend of his norwegian wife as they attend in the same social circles). Wow and wow. I am known for not keeping a girl to long(fall in love for a couple of hours and then gets tired)but now it has been 3 days with this one and still encounting(she goes to work in the morning and comes back in the eve). I have so far managed to stay away from daytime hookups with other contacts after i met this one. The monogamos life is wonderful guys, hehe. If i will complain about something it has to be her bedskills. She has not, according to my referancepersons, had to many guys but she is sure willing to learn. I put on my best pedagokic skills for her. I view her as my best pickup ever so far in my monger life. But from a monger perspective this is, if my info is correct, not someone willing to be around Havana or Burgous so have to be met maby the way i did. The first she saw by the way after she agreed coming back to my place was ofcourse a long black hair resting in all its beauty on my bathroom floor. I was lucky as i allready had informed her i had one date a couple of days ago over so i blamed that one. Thats in been many more than one i dont think she needs to know, hehe. Huts, i was sloppy again in my evidenceremoval. One day that will get me into trouble:-)
I enjoy many kind of FR's and feel sometimes we complain people not writing them. An negative remark can be enough we loose more reports from punters. So I myself if I don't like a FR I simply not comment on them.
Oh no! I didn't impress Socker!.You can probably live with knowing you didn't impress Mr. Socker easier than you could live with knowing you betrayed the women that pleased you. They'd probably all say no if you asked them if it was cool to post their naked pics on their home city's thread on International Sex Guide.
What you consider hot is all that matters. Socker's girl is hot, I respect his view too and I appreciate him sharing. But I'd consider the last girl I got out of a squatter village hotter than a high priced bar girl. And a thousand pesos changes her life for a while.
Besides, pornography is illegal in the Philippines.
I'm planning a trip to Cebu in a couple months. I plan to stay in the Manila area for 1 or 2 days. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to go to Makati as It seems here the action maybe better. My question is travel to the Manila airport convenient or far. What would be the general cost of a cab to the airport?
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I enjoy many kind of FR's and feel sometimes we complain people not writing them. An negative remark can be enough we loose more reports from punters. So I myself if I don't like a FR I simply not comment on them.I agree Skog.
I have virtually given up posting responses to member's questions on the open board nowadays because of the (usually) flippant one-line comments or smack-downs that have become a creeping disease through each thread on the board in the past few months.
I won't identify them individually; a quick perusal through a few threads (Manila, Makati and General Info for starters) will yield a plethora of one line comments which have no information-sharing value and merely increase a member's post count. Maybe that's what some guys are trying to do.
I nowadays prefer to send PMs to guys who are seeking genuine information on the board and don't need to be harangued to RTFF. Much less stress that way.
You can't please them all and no need to react if someone not enjoy your FR. Atleast you wrote one and that we thank you for. I have stopped posting pics so in anycase from now on all my info regarding girls will be pretty much like yours. It is more boring but I can not simply take more risks beeing ratted by fellow readers here.
To the guys who have been here a while (proven themselves) / or that live in the PI I understand posting pics can backfire. I understand it could be dangerous if outed. I surely wouldn't trust any board w / personal info or share identities of my conquest.
I don't live there and so w / some censoring I can back up my claims. The nice gentleman whom I criticized was claiming all this beauty but the TR was lacking in proof.
Sometimes the grouch in me comes out and it did once again.
I did thank him and I did note his taking the internet route as opposed to the bars and that his info was entertaining in that regard. The rest of it was filler.
I like TRs that provide the whole picture and not just claims from an unknown. There have been some great TRs recently from respected BMs here that do include a few pics. Pics are a big part of ISG. Who here would travel around the world at great expense on someone's word?
Like I said, everyone can have a legitimate reason for providing only text but every once in a while the guys that do the heavy lifting might get grouchy. When you take your camera and post pics it is huge, it is proof. Pics put the reader closer to the subject matter, in the room, on the flesh. How is that not worthy?
So in finishing up here I thank everyone for their understanding, just stirring the pot a little.
I think I'm done.
WestCoast1
11-14-14, 15:41
I'm planning a trip to Cebu in a couple months. I plan to stay in the Manila area for 1 or 2 days. Can someone tell me if it makes sense to go to Makati as It seems here the action maybe better. My question is travel to the Manila airport convenient or far. What would be the general cost of a cab to the airport?
I agree Skog.
I have virtually given up posting responses to member's questions on the open board nowadays because of the (usually) flippant one-line comments or smack-downs that have become a creeping disease through each thread on the board in the past few months.
I nowadays prefer to send PMs to guys who are seeking genuine information on the board and don't need to be harangued to RTFF. Much less stress that way.Here is why I give the flippant "RTTF". Take RumBuddy as an example. They drop by asking for info. Sometimes they say they will post an FR. Then we don't usually hear back from them. By Rum's on words, even he suggests others RTTF. It shows 55 reports under his username, but when I searched his posts I could only find 15. His posts are questions: "which condoms are best?" and "what is the best way to exchange money?" There are no descriptive FR's. I don't mind reminding newbs that PM is the way to ask questions, not the open board. I'm also most forthcoming with info in PM.
Nice report. I look forward to the day when I can post stories such as yours.
I will wait until I go to the LOS in the next year.
I have yet to go to the LOS yet, early next year hopefully. But to answer your question I think the standard answer would be RTFF. Do your homework. You ride the train and it sounds very simple to get laid almost 24 hours a day.Rum, I will PM you later with some info.
I see many of the senior members are too aggressive towards new comers. Can you blame people posting less and less to prevent flaming?
Here is why I give the flippant "RTTF". Take RumBuddy as an example. They drop by asking for info. Sometimes they say they will post an FR. Then we don't usually hear back from them. By Rum's on words, even he suggests others RTTF. It shows 55 reports under his username, but when I searched his posts I could only find 15. His posts are questions: "which condoms are best?" and "what is the best way to exchange money?" There are no descriptive FR's. I don't mind reminding newbs that PM is the way to ask questions, not the open board. I'm also most forthcoming with info in PM.
Rum, I will PM you later with some info.
WhatsUrName
11-14-14, 19:33
I see many of the senior members are too aggressive towards new comers. Can you blame people posting less and less to prevent flaming?Me too.
Just wanted to post some support for Commonglass. Thanks for the FR, Commonglass. Socker's response was unwarranted and "Over the top".
Roll Aides
11-14-14, 21:06
I see many of the senior members are too aggressive towards new comers. Can you blame people posting less and less to prevent flaming?I'm not sure if I can totally agree with this, what I would say is there are an unfortunate amount of asshats here, who invariably have something negative to say about other users' posts, or just any fucking thing they can think of to say something negative about. Regardless of seniority. I think that's Jackson's prerogative to handle, but unfortunately the situation exists. Very unfortunately. It can be a real chore to try to contribute something here, only to have to deal with replies from some asshat.
IMO, telling someone to RTFF generally does not qualify as negative feedback. That's just a reasonable response to laziness. However, an unwarranted shitting-all-over of a legitimate field report is certainly nothing short of being an asshat. I don't think that's correlated with having seniority here, it's just a result of having one's neck firmly held in the warm clammy embrace of one's own anus.
Most of the senior members, I find to be really nice, helpful guys. Getting laid a lot probably helps to improves one's disposition towards humanity. The exceptions, I have on my ignore list. Including the originator of this particular kerfuffle.
Unfortunately, having someone on your IL doesn't insulate you from the fallout of their shit-headed comments.
Anyway, thank you, Commonglass, for your pleasant and informative FR, I certainly found it interesting. I'm sorry that we've all got to deal with this nonsense. On the other hand, from your entertainingly sarcastic reply, it's pretty obvious that you don't take a quasi-ding from some asshat with any more seriousness than it actually deserves, which is to say, zero.
I'm not sure if I can totally agree with this, what I would say is there are an unfortunate amount of asshats here, who invariably have something negative to say about other users' posts, or just any fucking thing they can think of to say something negative about. Regardless of seniority. I think that's Jackson's prerogative to handle, but unfortunately the situation exists. Very unfortunately. It can be a real chore to try to contribute something here, only to have to deal with replies from some asshat.
IMO, telling someone to RTFF generally does not qualify as negative feedback. That's just a reasonable response to laziness. However, an unwarranted shitting-all-over of a legitimate field report is certainly nothing short of being an asshat. I don't think that's correlated with having seniority here, it's just a result of having one's neck firmly held in the warm clammy embrace of one's own anus.
Most of the senior members, I find to be really nice, helpful guys. Getting laid a lot probably helps to improves one's disposition towards humanity. The exceptions, I have on my ignore list. Including the originator of this particular kerfuffle.
Unfortunately, having someone on your IL doesn't insulate you from the fallout of their shit-headed comments.
Anyway, thank you, Commonglass, for your pleasant and informative FR, I certainly found it interesting. I'm sorry that we've all got to deal with this nonsense. On the other hand, from your entertainingly sarcastic reply, it's pretty obvious that you don't take a quasi-ding from some asshat with any more seriousness than it actually deserves, which is to say, zero.What's your worth here? What have you contributed to the betterment of any BM here?? Yes the poster I critiqued had a classy response to my post and later I softened my position and explained myself regarding pics.
So by the looks of your posting history it was an opening for you to make ANOTHER mindless + insulting comment. That's all you do is make mindless comments. Where are your TRs? What is your value here?
So far from what I see you're a do nothing give nothing loser.
So same to you ass*.
Pinaypounder
11-15-14, 03:42
[QUOTE=Commonglass;1644413]I had an amazing first trip to Makati. Lots of good advice from Westcoast and some prep on FilipinoCupid. I arrived with a huge arsenal of plans for bar girls, mall pickups and civilians but spent so much time fucking girls from FilipinoCupid that I didn't have time for anything else.
I am not sure why you are being slagged and I agree with some here that it is nice to let people post. I guess the Lords of the manor dont like you but who gives a fuck. Bring them an offering of Viagra and RedBull and I am sure all will be fine.
Like most Foreigners in the Phils there is allot of complaining!
PP.
Unless you're an asshole, in which case Thailand is better prepared for you.Thanks for the report, but I am curious why you made this statement about Thailand. If you did not like Thailand, just say so. No need to bring in "asshole" in there.
(6) The Philippines is a far, far better sex destination than Thailand. Far better. Unless you're an asshole, in which case Thailand is better prepared for you.Thanks for your report. Phils do have much better knowledge of the Western culture and there are more common things to discuss compare to Thailand. Especially it gets much difficult when you go out of the major tourist areas. Two different countries and two different cultures.
Member #4387
11-15-14, 09:44
Thanks for your report. Phils do have much better knowledge of the Western culture and there are more common things to discuss compare to Thailand. Especially it gets much difficult when you go out of the major tourist areas. Two different countries and two different cultures.I am devided in this issue much because I am not interested in moving that much outside Makati in Phils or BKK in Thailand. The top beauty girls are extremely beautiful both places but a bit down the ladder thaigirls have more sexy bodies and are on average in possesion of bigger tetas, higher altitude and more well shaped asses. For both places I think "crappy" is the right word describing their knowledge of western culture. I am not teaching them either just tell them to use google whenever they wonder something (except phil girls know phil have strong rel with US). Thaigirls probably not as GFE as a phil girls though. I like them both very much and have hard time finding a 1 and 2 place.
I think also thaigirls are better to behave in public and / or know how to pick correct dress for each occation. Don't let my example stand as this is how it is here in phils but I never experienced this in Bangkok. A small week ago I had a girl coming over. I was drenched after a few girlie visitis this day so thought of having a break from my room and fucking. I decide to invite her to the movies. I told her it is normaly very cold inside movietheaters in warm countries so I tipped her maby a jacket and some jeans would be clver to wear. She showed up in the most beautiful onepiece dress I ever seen. I give her that but for the movies it was to much. Had this been a gathering at the embassy or sth it would have been more in place. I felt like a jerk going together with her. I don't mean to generalize bit try understand my point. Any obsrvations (probably more convenient in the general thread).
I am devided in this issue much because I am not interested in moving that much outside Makati in Phils or BKK in Thailand. The top beauty girls are extremely beautiful both places but a bit down the ladder thaigirls have more sexy bodies and are on average in possesion of bigger tetas, higher altitude and more well shaped asses. For both places I think "crappy" is the right word describing their knowledge of western culture. I am not teaching them either just tell them to use google whenever they wonder something (except phil girls know phil have strong rel with US). Thaigirls probably not as GFE as a phil girls though. I like them both very much and have hard time finding a 1 and 2 place.
I think also thaigirls are better to behave in public and / or know how to pick correct dress for each occation. Don't let my example stand as this is how it is here in phils but I never experienced this in Bangkok. A small week ago I had a girl coming over. I was drenched after a few girlie visitis this day so thought of having a break from my room and fucking. I decide to invite her to the movies. I told her it is normaly very cold inside movietheaters in warm countries so I tipped her maby a jacket and some jeans would be clver to wear. She showed up in the most beautiful onepiece dress I ever seen. I give her that but for the movies it was to much. Had this been a gathering at the embassy or sth it would have been more in place. I felt like a jerk going together with her. I don't mean to generalize bit try understand my point. Any obsrvations (probably more convenient in the general thread).Now if the girls were in western countries then I would expect them to have some knowledge of western culture. Now we are in their country with very poor knowledge of the HOST countries. MABY it is their culture to dress up to go to the movies, but you don't know if it is or not! Maby you can spell maybe correct? Maybe she was "shy" (embarrassed) to go to the movies with a poorly dressed blah blah blah westerner.
Member #4387
11-15-14, 10:49
Now if the girls were in western countries then I would expect them to have some knowledge of western culture. Now we are in their country with very poor knowledge of the HOST countries. MABY it is their culture to dress up to go to the movies, but you don't know if it is or not! Maby you can spell maybe correct? Maybe she was "shy" (embarrassed) to go to the movies with a poorly dressed blah blah blah westerner.OMG what have this mispelling to do with the issue? I write my observations and you yours. She was overly dressed and stood out from the rest of the moviecrowd. And I am by far poorly dressed.
OsakaGin11
11-15-14, 12:21
That's all very well but it can land the girl in a lot of hot water with her employers. If a girl volunteers to sneak out or volunteers to come over on her days off, that's fine. But trolling around the bars trying to get the girls to do the wrong thing seems a bit desperate. Why not just get on the dating sites & take your pick from those?
AV.I take your point but I am not asking them to do anything they don't want to. If they are interested to meet me out of hours, its fine by me and if they aren't, its no big deal for me. Either way they are free to choose without any pressure from me. Over the years I have even had a few gals that have volunteered their phone no. to me to arrange a before or after work meet up.
And as for me being desperate for a gal, I can assure that is something I am never am in Manila as the Burgos bars are just one option in a myriad of monger choices available at any time. So please be careful after being too judgemental about someone you have never met or likely to meet in person!
I think also thaigirls are better to behave in public and / or know how to pick correct dress for each occation. Don't let my example stand as this is how it is here in phils but I never experienced this in Bangkok. A small week ago I had a girl coming over. I was drenched after a few girlie visitis this day so thought of having a break from my room and fucking. I decide to invite her to the movies. I told her it is normaly very cold inside movietheaters in warm countries so I tipped her maby a jacket and some jeans would be clver to wear. She showed up in the most beautiful onepiece dress I ever seen. I give her that but for the movies it was to much. Had this been a gathering at the embassy or sth it would have been more in place. I felt like a jerk going together with her. I don't mean to generalize bit try understand my point. Any obsrvations (probably more convenient in the general thread).I have dated normal Thai, Chinese and Phi girls. Yes, Thai and Chinese girls dress for the occasion. Problem with Phi girls is they do not own a light jacket. I have taken many girls there to the movies and the problem is not only they keep it freezing but lots of mosquitoes biting you. Since it is hot in Phi most of the time they do not need jackets or warm clothes. They do not have air con at home and many constantly complain that the my room is freezing. I like them to sleep naked with me-LOL so when the mood strikes we get it on.
It is better to be culturally sensitive and not criticize girls for whatever you think they are not prepared for. I am sure you are not perfect either in many situations.
I have taken many girls there to the movies and the problem is not only they keep it freezing but lots of mosquitoes biting you.The Ayala theaters are the worst for this. Freezing. There's an easy fix. I have a cotton cardigan I always bring with me to the cinema. Once the girl gets chilly I put it on her. Makes me look like a gent, and as we know believing is seeing. Pro-tip: always launder the let-the-girl-wear-it clothes before the next one's use. Why? "Who's perfume do I smell on this sweater?
It is better to be culturally sensitive and not criticize girls for whatever you think they are not prepared for. I am sure you are not perfect either in many situations.Absolutely. Legit faults or not, criticizing a girl's country to her face isn't going to win you any affection. Yes, many girls criticize the place. I feel some do so excessively; the problems are the worst in the Philippines. No perspective, and I don't blame her for this. I assure you, and her, there are far, far worse places. I usually give her examples of how messed up first-world countries are. The third-world has enough problems without me wagging my finger at it. Except Globe Telecom which has earned my evil eye.
She showed up in the most beautiful onepiece dress I ever seen. I give her that but for the movies it was to much. Had this been a gathering at the embassy or sth it would have been more in place. I felt like a jerk going together with her. I don't mean to generalize bit try understand my point. Any obsrvations (probably more convenient in the general thread).You have to understand these girls everyday lives. I have take province girls to the movies that had never been to a movie theater. That might have been the most expensive date of her life if you included taking her to someplace other than Jollibee as well. I gave up being embarrassed by the girls manner of dress along time ago. Its her country after all.
I have to laugh when even considering the subject in my case. Just the fact that I'm on a 'date' with an 18 or 19 yo girl at my age and no one there bats an eye. In my country no manner of attire by either of us could keep me from looking like a jerk in the eyes of much of the public, and most of my extended family as well come to think of it.
OMG what have this mispelling to do with the issue? I write my observations and you yours. She was overly dressed and stood out from the rest of the moviecrowd. And I am by far poorly dressed.Sounds like she out class you even thou you were far from poorly dressed. Next time wear your pilot uniform!
I am devided in this issue much because I am not interested in moving that much outside Makati in Phils or BKK in Thailand. The top beauty girls are extremely beautiful both places but a bit down the ladder thaigirls have more sexy bodies and are on average in possesion of bigger tetas, higher altitude and more well shaped asses. For both places I think "crappy" is the right word describing their knowledge of western culture.I love ISG, the pros don't bother w / the petty stuff, I'll jump right back in if it's okay.
I was in BKK last week and have been going through a lousy jet lag process this past week. My last time in BKK was early 2010 and I did have a great time, I then went to Pattaya for a week and had a better time. My next trip (6 months later) to Asia was to the PI and after the PI I have never been back to BKK until now. There's something about the Philippines and I have really good life long filipino friends in my hometown so I connected to the PI quite strongly.
So now almost 5 years later I am still mongering between So America and the PI mainly, I wasn't thinking Thailand at all but now things in my mind have changed.
A close friend from my old neighborhood has picked up and moved to Chang Mai. I decided to meet him in BKK as part of a bigger trip to Australia then Thailand. After Australia I took my wife to Phuket for 5 days thinking beach time and a little mongering on the side. There's a lengthy Socker TR in the Phuket forum if interested but Phuket turned out to be a joke, tourist town yes, mongering is weak imo. So my last 3 days were spent in BKK and to meet my childhood buddy who is going to Thai language school and has a nice place w / live in GF in CM.
Mind you I am at the age where my thoughts and hopes are to find a place I can retire part time. A place acceptable to my wife and that has ample quality pussy available nearby, w / a beach nearby (the perfect world). Suprisingly so far in my travels BKK is the closest place to my ideal, I was very surprised. I was shocked at how awesome the city was and how I was constantly the target of nice looking Thai ladies. The clubs on Soi Cowboy were equal or better than their counterparts on Burgos, price wise not so much. There were bars w / pool tables you could chill in and let the pussy come to you and then the Go Gos where there was extremely pretty women available. Prices were bit of a joke, 3000 baht for bar 2000 baht for the girl and the top girls might not go w / you. So the Go Gos were a questionable source of good GFE fun. I only spent one night there and did partake of a bargirl at Country Roads. I got lucky w / her bbing otherwise it was cover only for FS. The Country Rd barfine was 400 baht and the lady was more then happy w / 2000 baht. I probably over paid but she was so fresh and sweet.
Later on when you think the nights over and you leave the girly bars you might find yourself at a megshift mobile bar on Sukhumvit. This happened to me and my bud one night. We leave and are stumbling around at 1:30 am and there are 3 ladies at this bar in a parking spot on Sukhumvit. A few drinks later and 2 of the 3 are fucking my brains out at a ST hotel a block away. These 2 were late twenties and just on fire after a few drinks, we had an awesome fuck session. My friend ended up w / the 3rd lady so I walked about 6 blocks back to my hotel at 4:30 am, big smile, back to the wife and happy.
Before I left Thailand I had to return to the Nana Plaza and so I did on my last night and what a change that Soi went through. Four and a half years ago the Soi was a dirty shit street and now it could have been a street in NY off Time Square. The Soi was cleaned up and built up w / new bar after new bar or restaurant. Finally get to NP and it to has been renovated but the layout is still the same, kind of. The women quality here was quite fantastic, many 8"s dancing on stage but most were drink sluts or looking for Mr K or the like.
So anyway, Thailand is back on my map, lots of top quality pussy w / very little crime in the streets.
Maybe I'm dreaming but I have doubts about AC and the PI in general. In AC there might be 3 8's in the whole town and they certainly won't go w / me. Also the stupid PI laws that are constantly being applied, bar raids, FL scamming. The PI is just a more desperate mongering locale than Thailand it seems to me right now.
Thailand had the better looking pussy, the better food, the better transportation, the safer streets at 2 am. I have to say there was a lot to like. The one thing that wasn't equal was the friendliness of the ladies hired from the Go Gos. The PI is still # 1 in my favorite nuances w / sweet nice ladies but BKK was a powerful experience. I could see myself living there for a few months a year. I will do some further retirement recon late 2015.
Here's a pic or 2 of my late night surprise at a mobile bar on Sukhumvit.
ConquerorVal
11-15-14, 21:53
Mind you I am at the age where my thoughts and hopes are to find a place I can retire part time. A place acceptable to my wife and that has ample quality pussy available nearby, w / a beach nearby (the perfect world).I am in a similar position, and have the same goal as you, so I will be following your research closely. Another great thing about Bangkok is the high quality of health care which one may need when older, and the fact that the city is a hub when travelling in the region. None of the other great South East Asian mongering destinations are far away, and are all quite affordable.
Makati as possibly the most expensive place in the Phils, is the last place I would even consider retiring to. You would have to have money to burn to even consider it. A big city with all the traffic and pollution? As a Phils mongering destination it is over priced.
I am in a similar position, and have the same goal as you, so I will be following your research closely. Another great thing about Bangkok is the high quality of health care which one may need when older, and the fact that the city is a hub when travelling in the region. None of the other great South East Asian mongering destinations are far away, and are all quite affordable.I never thought of BKK as a great hub to other Asian mongering locales but you're right on the money. Inexpensive flights to Manila, Jakarta, etc would be more then welcome, and the great medical facilities they have so thanks very much for your input.
On my next visit I will go to Chang Mai and see my friends environment. While in the city together he likes BKK but there is too much energy there for him. That could be an issue but I'm a city guy so I was quite jazzed to be in such a huge town w / zero political correctness, I mean NONE! I loved it. Cheers Bro!!
Pip Jaeger
11-16-14, 02:00
So please be careful after being too judgemental about someone you have never met or likely to meet in person!Well said and I fully agree. More people on this board should remember that before they try sock it to someone, LOL.
GoodEnough
11-16-14, 02:34
I read Socker et al's comments with some interest, since I live in the Philippines, used to work in Thailand, and still visit Bangkok as often as I can. Socker's comments, all of which I agree with, speak in large measure to the differences between the two countries. Thailand, despite its recent political imbroglios, remains fairly vibrant, and managed by politicians whose greed doesn't transcend their commitment to investing in the country's continued development as attested to by all of the new roads, the sky train, the subway, the new airport, the attempts to clean up the river and a myriad of other initiatives. Contrastingly, nothing gets in the way of the rapacious greed of Filipino politicians, who invest in nothing to benefit the nation. In fact, were it not for he remittances sent home by overseas workers, this place would, I believe, implode. If I were confronted with the choice between the two countries as retirement destinations, it would take me less than a nanosecond to decide in favor of Thailand.
GE.
Econo Tech
11-16-14, 10:07
The Ayala theaters are the worst for this. Freezing. There's an easy fix. I have a cotton cardigan I always bring with me to the cinema. Once the girl gets chilly I put it on her. Makes me look like a gent, and as we know believing is seeing. Pro-tip: always launder the let-the-girl-wear-it clothes before the next one's use. Why? "Who's perfume do I smell on this sweater?.Having had near misses like you, I don't ever trust pinays to play by rules.
Even bar girls will innocently spray some of their perfume on any cardigan or jacket you give, and accidentally will leave some hair there as well, like trying to brush the hair but actually purposely shedding hair.
The winner I has was a girl who hid a pair of her shoes in the bottom of my wardrobe which had to be discovered by the next one, and fire works started as expected.
Nowadays unless I know the girl is mature I keep them in the hotel and never let them into my own apartment.
Those mature ones haven't resorted to this kind of asymmetric warfare. Yet.
Though they know the score.
Roll Aides
11-16-14, 18:07
You win Socker. I'm out. I realize this isn't my kind of party anymore, Peace mates, and happy trails.
You win Socker. I'm out. I realize this isn't my kind of party anymore, Peace mates, and happy trails.No one wins when we call each other names. Lets chill and learn something new. I'm not any where near perfect and so no harm was done, just another lesson. I hope you stick around. Best to you bro.
Econo Tech
11-17-14, 01:55
Talking about 'engaging' pinays looking for jobs in airline etc. See the stuff that happens in Singapore.
Winner of Men's category, first runner up and second runner up, Caucasians.
Women category of course, fully dominated by Pinay DHs. The winner of Women category was apparently inspired by Maleficient!
Program? Pinoy Star, a Filipino OFW magazines 'star of the year' contest, a magazine that primarily targets the maid community here.
Some guys really have guts.
http://www.pinoystaronline.com/
When new or first time posters come here and ask simple questions they get blasted by the 100's and 1,000's posters vet to read the forum etc.
Well it would help if the experienced posters would simply think before they post randomly. This Forum was set up with one giant catchall thread list at the bottom and then fixed categories at the top which get the vast majority of posts. Someone simply looking for info on Makati would have to most recently sift through a bunch of wildly off topic posts about retiring in the Phils vs Thai. Makati is the financial district of Manila the bars are way overpriced. Nobody retires there unless they have a license to print pesos. There are parts of the US cheaper to live than Makati.
Organize your thoughts better, think about your topic before you start free associating, and decide where it appropriately fits.
This place is a jumbled mess of off topic info and some of the frequent posters are the worst offenders.
Here is a nice body I had in the Makati Palace Hotel in 2006 met her on ABC the first was a screen cap the second was after my release. She was a virgin both times I met her in Makati. She wanted too much for her cherry. But I loved her body. Later she had a baby supposedly by some rich Pinoy who raped her. Lost touch with her as she became too whacked out.
FreebieFan
11-17-14, 05:29
When new or first time posters come here and ask simple questions they get blasted by the 100's and 1,000's posters vet to read the forum etc.
Well it would help if the experienced posters would simply think before they post randomly. This Forum was set up with one giant catchall thread list at the bottom and then fixed categories at the top which get the vast majority of posts. Someone simply looking for info on Makati would have to most recently sift through a bunch of wildly off topic posts about retiring in the Phils vs Thai. Makati is the financial district of Manila the bars are way overpriced. Nobody retires there unless they have a license to print pesos. There are parts of the US cheaper to live than Makati.
Organize your thoughts better, think about your topic before you start free associating, and decide where it appropriately fits.
This place is a jumbled mess of off topic info and some of the frequent posters are the worst offenders.
.Thanks for telling us how to do things. We truly appreciate it.
As you age, mellow and make more posts, you will find that there are subjects in which you have an interest, or a point of discussion, or some experience about. And you will share those.
And you will find the subjects vary from car radios, nosy neighbours, dancing bears, nipple length, best angles for photography, bank accounts, hotels, hotel beds, girls hair, flight attendants, cold movie houses, phone signal, pick up lines, rates of pay, dating sites, scams and scammers, hiding places, pubic hair, LB's, LDs and LBC, BBC, BBW and many many more. They are so numerous and diverse that they defy categorisation, but all have something to do with makati or manila or whatever category theyt are in.
So thank you for the admonishment, and the reminder that we should be more organised.
I think I will just stick to what I'm doing, and will not forget to buy you that nice leather organiser for Christmas. You know, the one with the coloured dividers for each category, the other bolder colours for the more important dates, the ones with very bright colours for special days, and the delightfully varied muted colour dividers for your " to do " lists.
I think I will just stick to what I'm doing, and will not forget to buy you that nice leather organiser for Christmas. You know, the one with the coloured dividers for each category, the other bolder colours for the more important dates, the ones with very bright colours for special days, and the delightfully varied muted colour dividers for your " to do " lists.Yes a Day-Timer. I owned one back in the '80's.
Continue your non-sequiter posts and congratulate your fellow zillion poster amigos.
I will ask it for the third time.
Would you retire in Makati? Why? Makati is a part of Manila, not Thailand or Angeles.
Some of you Senior masters of the ISG universe think its cute to just babble on and on with each other wherever in this tangled mess.
This place is thriving so who am I with my 20 posts to advise you veterans? Nevermind.
This place is a jumbled mess of off topic info and some of the frequent posters are the worst offenders.
In support of Pantot; I think he is trying to point out that it is very difficult to find pertinent information on ISG nowadays because of the amount of "off topic" stuff.
I was looking for some information earlier today and gave up after 10 minutes of looking (and I have been here for more than 2000 posts). I dared not ask for the information on the board because I would have been told to RTFF, so I PM'ed a friend and found what I needed.
The forum for Philippines is no longer an International Sex Guide. It is more like a simple version of "Trip Advisor".
The forum for Philippines is no longer an International Sex Guide. It is more like a simple version of "Trip Advisor".My post 3917 is a good example of what I am saying, and I am guilty of the very thing that Pantot is complaining about.
I posted the reply to him on the Makati thread.
It has no relevance for guys looking for information about Makati.
Mea culpa.
Yes a Day-Timer. I owned one back in the '80's.
Continue your non-sequiter posts and congratulate your fellow zillion poster amigos.
I will ask it for the third time.
Would you retire in Makati? Why? Makati is a part of Manila, not Thailand or Angeles.
Some of you Senior masters of the ISG universe think its cute to just babble on and on with each other wherever in this tangled mess.
This place is thriving so who am I with my 20 posts to advise you veterans? Nevermind.I am not an expert on retirement in anywhere yet alone the Philippines. Not knowing any of your circumstances, I will say that I was impressed with Bonifacio Global City and McKinnley Hills in Manila near the US Military Cemetery. I do not know the cost of living there but they are very nice planned communities.
WhatsUrName
11-17-14, 16:19
Would you retire in Makati? Why? Makati is a part of Manila, not Thailand or Angeles.
This is my opinion only. Yes, I would consider retiring in Makati. In fact, if I were to retire full time to the Philippines, Makati is about the only place I would consider for living out my days. In particular, I like the Rockwell Complex right next to the Pasig river. There is a big, nice Mall across the street (Power Plant Mall). P Burgos street is a very short cab ride away. No jeepneys allowed on the property. Although they do run closeby.
I guess the primary reason is that if I did indeed retire to the Philippines, I would want to be as close to First World living as possible. Makati and The Fort (close by) would do the trick.
Would you retire in Makati? Why? Makati is a part of Manila, not Thailand or Angeles.
Most importantly is to locate yourself in an area that best suits your personality and interests. If you're a nature lover don't live in Manila. Want to be a beach bum? Don't live in AC. If you love the buzz of a big city don't live in a provincial backwater. Live in place where you're bored and miserable and it'll tarnish your demeanor and repel people.
Having lived in Makati for quite a while I would consider it solely for the quantity and quality of women in metro Manila. It's easy enough for women to travel to Makati. BGC is very nice, but since jeeps are very restricted there it can be a bit of a hassle. I'm a fan of the jeep, but it seems most here are not. Alabang is also quite good, as is Eastwood, but I feel they are too far away. Yet, it is the traffic and pollution in Manila that make the place a tough stay. Certainly the cost of living in Makati is higher; a decent 1 br condo with security, pool, gym, and other amenities will be a minimum pf p25,000 per month, and p50,000-p60,0000 is not uncommon. Assuming that at retirement a bloke pretty much owns everything he needs and therefore doesn't need to shop for much other than food you could hang around your condo / neighbourhood most of the time. For some that's acceptable and for others they'd go crazy. Sundays are easy enough to move around, but once you get to your shopping destination it's packed. Manila certainly isn't a cultural mecca like London, yet I've attended several well done plays and musicals here - I can easily walk to the RCBC theatre and the CCP is a 20-minute taxi ride. The sheer joy you'll see in your girl's eyes as she watches a professional musical is worth 100 times the price of admission. If you're fortunate enough to date well-educated, professional women who graduated from UP, DLSU, Ateneo or UST and are open to exploring her world you will surely meet a lot of friendly and interesting people.
I'm a city boy but I'd prefer to not be in Manila. I really enjoyed Davao when I visited, and I'm considering doing a trial 3 to 6-month stay there to determine whether or not the girls are as available as they are in Manila. I know the bar scene there leaves much to be desired, but that's okay with me. It being close to Samal Island is a good point, and there are a couple okay golf courses nearby.
I would never retire to Angeles. Why? Too many foreigners, of both the long-stay and short-visit type. Seems to me too many of them have an overblown sense of entitlement and treat the locals with condescension. Just not my crowd. But of you're the type who enjoys sitting at the bar and having a chat with the lads while being surrounded by dozens of women AC may be your type of place. I'd rather be there than sit in LA Cafe or Burgos St bars day after day.
I used to prefer Thailand to the Philippines because hearing tales of woe and misery wore me down; it was easier to deal with a Thai girl whose English was much poorer than a Filipina. Choosing to hang out with the down-on-their-luck types was my fault. Since I've been here I've made a choice to limit my time in places like LA Cafe and maximize my time with girls I've met on the dating sites. Sure I've met some duds, but I've also met some really great girls too.
In conclusion I will gently say that the topic of "Would you retire in Makati?" would be better posted in the Living in the Philippines section of the forum, but at least it's in the Makati section rather than Manila. Seems all of us share responsibility to the current "untidy" state of the place.
FreebieFan
11-18-14, 01:50
Would you retire in Makati?.
Yes I would and yes I will be doing so soon. Now tell me, how has that information helped the board or yourself in general?
I'm glad to help refocus the Board to the region.
Makati is not Thailand.
Makati is far from Angeles, regarding the topic of the AC vs Thai.
Makati is a Part of the Manila Metro area.
Glad to get some to bring the topic back to Makati. Some profess to want to retire to Makati, glad to challenge the forum.
Your welcome.
Glad to get some to bring the topic back to Makati.
Fear not, it'll go off topic in a day or two.
Cool Traveler
11-21-14, 20:29
I always wondered what it would be like to retire in Makati. Every trip I make. And I see those drop dead gorgeous women. There are a lot of beautiful women. I went to yoga there, and phew!! And walking down Makati Av. , lunch time. Phew! I did some research. Best is to buy a condo there. Makati has one of the highest returns in Asia, in terms of rent.
I always wondered what it would be like to retire in Makati. Every trip I make. And I see those drop dead gorgeous women. There are a lot of beautiful women. I went to yoga there, and phew!! And walking down Makati Av. , lunch time. Phew! I did some research. Best is to buy a condo there. Makati has one of the highest returns in Asia, in terms of rent.If you buy in Makati you need to appreciate that most properties are at least 3 M or more expensive than comparable properties in other areas.
In addition, the monthly dues, barangay taxes and insurance fees are much higher in Makati.
I did a long and extensive price analysis and comparison before I bought my condo in Ortigas.
I bought my condo to have a place to live so rental income was not important nor was its potential appreciation in value although I have seen a reasonable appreciation in the last 2 years. It is likely to go higher with the proposed investment collaboration of SM and Ayala in Ortigas expansion.
The bonus for me living in Ortigas is that I am virtually in the center of Metro Manila and equidistant between northern and southern expressways as well as between Cubao (QC) and Makati. The additional bonus is that I am close to 2 MRT stations; I can very easily stroll to 4 large malls (Robinson's, SM Megamall, Podium and Shangri-la), and Makati and BGC are both just a short taxi ride away.
You need a car / taxi to get between places in Makati (even between Greenbelt and Burgos). Greenbelt is no different to the new enhanced and expanded Megamall and Shangrila malls (except for the location of Havana Cafe, and that's a spurious reason for living in Makati since I very rarely go there). Remember that all the show business stars and TV dancers all work for ABS-CBN or GMA, both of which are in QC which is north of Ortigas. Most of these stars live in the up-market areas of QC.
Remember also that very few of the girls you see walking around Makati streets actually LIVE in Makati.
In support of Pantot; I think he is trying to point out that it is very difficult to find pertinent information on ISG nowadays because of the amount of "off topic" stuff.
I was looking for some information earlier today and gave up after 10 minutes of looking (and I have been here for more than 2000 posts). I dared not ask for the information on the board because I would have been told to RTFF, so I PM'ed a friend and found what I needed.
The forum for Philippines is no longer an International Sex Guide. It is more like a simple version of "Trip Advisor".I agree, trying to find info here is very difficult- except for basic info. I wish they could figure out a way to find info better.
Yes I would and yes I will be doing so soon. Now tell me, how has that information helped the board or yourself in general?Are you sure that you are going to retire in Makati?
Or are you going to live the best years of your life in BGC which is probably more correctly in Taguig City rather than Makati? Haha.
I tossed up between BGC and another place, but the other place narrowly won (unnamed as I don't wish to be accused of going OT).
BTW interesting that after 5 days, Mr Day-Timer man has still not responded to your answer, although he has made another post here. Maybe the topic is not really of great interest to him anymore as he did not get great accolades for his claims and questions.
Cheers.
I have an opportunity to housesit and dog sit in what appears to be a nice Paranaque apartment over the Christmas holidays. From what I can determine, Paranaque either borders or overlaps with Makati. Is this true or is Makati further away? I don't know the specific street location yet.
Also, this would be my first time in the Philippines and would include visits to some beaches beforehand. However, what would it be like to be in Manila during Christmas season? This would also include New Years Eve.
FreebieFan
11-24-14, 01:46
Are you sure that you are going to retire in Makati?
Or are you going to live the best years of your life in BGC which is probably more correctly in Taguig City rather than Makati? Haha.
I tossed up between BGC and another place, but the other place narrowly won (unnamed as I don't wish to be accused of going OT).
BTW interesting that after 5 days, Mr Day-Timer man has still not responded to your answer, although he has made another post here. Maybe the topic is not really of great interest to him anymore as he did not get great accolades for his claims and questions.
Cheers.Actually its back in Makati now. There was a court case and the whole area was re-classified as Makati. So having it in this thread is both apt and correct. LOL.
As for the non responder. As Rhett said to Scarlett. " Frankly, I don't give a damn. ".
I agree, trying to find info here is very difficult- except for basic info. I wish they could figure out a way to find info better.That's primarily the weakness of the board software IMHO. For many years the newsgroups (NNTP) have had a custom of re-posting an FAQ say once a week. This FAQ is revised / added to by board contributors under the supervision of a moderator. Sounds like work to me. I just use the search function, such as it is & do some background reading of posts before asking a targeted question. To be fair to ISG contributors, some guys are just too lazy to even make any effort before asking really basic questions.
I enjoy "listening in" on the ISG community here & throwing in the odd brain fart but I'm growing increasingly unhappy with the board software.
AV.
To be fair, senior members should be contributing informative reports before nitpicking others. Some of the nitpickers are regular posters with great reports. (no offense RK).
As for the people managing this board, we should be very thankful.
To be fair, AV is a.(regular poster about boat paint and boat engines). How's the boat doing AV?
That's primarily the weakness of the board software IMHO. For many years the newsgroups (NNTP) have had a custom of re-posting an FAQ say once a week. This FAQ is revised / added to by board contributors under the supervision of a moderator. Sounds like work to me. I just use the search function, such as it is & do some background reading of posts before asking a targeted question. To be fair to ISG contributors, some guys are just too lazy to even make any effort before asking really basic questions.
I enjoy "listening in" on the ISG community here & throwing in the odd brain fart but I'm growing increasingly unhappy with the board software.
AV.
Big Poppa II
11-24-14, 14:52
Finally after two years I made back to Makati, the situation has not changed. After checking in at the Shangri-La I took a walk down to Havana Cafe. I didn't even take a shower as I figure I would be taking an assisted one soon. A couple beers later I started to look around and saw this cute little thing, we made eye contact, chatted for a little bit and off we went. Just as I thought we started in the shower, some kisses, BBBJ and to bed. As it turned out she had a nice pair and nice long nipples, not bad. This was a quick one as I was kind of tired from the trip and wanted to sleep. I gave her 2,000.00 Pesos and she did not complain, but asked for transportation money. Gave her 200.00 more for a total of 2200.00.
Was happy to see that Havana Cafe is still active. The next encounters were arranged through WeChat, more reports to come.
Be safe, BP.
I have an opportunity to housesit and dog sit in what appears to be a nice Paranaque apartment over the Christmas holidays. From what I can determine, Paranaque either borders or overlaps with Makati. Is this true or is Makati further away? I don't know the specific street location yet.
Also, this would be my first time in the Philippines and would include visits to some beaches beforehand. However, what would it be like to be in Manila during Christmas season? This would also include New Years Eve.Paranaque is a big municipality mostly to the south and southwest of the airport, and includes the airport. I was there on business recently and it looked just as clean as Makati, but not as ultramodern. It took around 20 minutes by car from the Paranaque city center (in the southerly part) to Makati center and 30 to Ermita.
Only been there once during the holidays. Not much different from any other time IIRC, maybe more hustling for $$$ if that's possible.
While I am here.... Anyone ever stay at A-Venue Suites at the Antel thingy? It's near Burgos and they have a good corporate rate but I don't know if it is friendly.
FreebieFan
11-25-14, 01:43
While I am here.... Anyone ever stay at A-Venue Suites at the Antel thingy? It's near Burgos and they have a good corporate rate but I don't know if it is friendly.A-venue is fine, no one bats an eye. But, they typically didn't plan the building well and there are minimal elevators, and the staff use the same guest elevators also.
If you get a high floor, it can be a long wait to go downstairs. My record was 15 minutes. Breakfast is about a 2 out of 10.
Econo Tech
11-25-14, 03:46
A-venue is fine, no one bats an eye. But, they typically didn't plan the building well and there are minimal elevators, and the staff use the same guest elevators also.
If you get a high floor, it can be a long wait to go downstairs. My record was 15 minutes. Breakfast is about a 2 out of 10.I do Echo what you said. That place is a bit of a mini-city by itself!
I have an opportunity to housesit and dog sit in what appears to be a nice Paranaque apartment over the Christmas holidays. From what I can determine, Paranaque either borders or overlaps with Makati. Is this true or is Makati further away? I don't know the specific street location yet.
Also, this would be my first time in the Philippines and would include visits to some beaches beforehand. However, what would it be like to be in Manila during Christmas season? This would also include New Years Eve.Its further from Makati than you think when you factor in traffic. Christmas / New Year in Manila is hell. The streets are literally choked with traffic. The malls are wall to wall with Filipino's out in family groups 'shopping'. If you enjoy walking past gridlocked traffic in the tropical heat to malls that are a crush 24 x7 then by all means come. I hope this place your staying has a nice pool because you're going to be spending an awful lot of time there wondering why the hell you came LOL!
AV.
I have an opportunity to housesit and dog sit in what appears to be a nice Paranaque apartment over the Christmas holidays. From what I can determine, Paranaque either borders or overlaps with Makati. Is this true or is Makati further away? I don't know the specific street location yet.Paranaque borders Pasay which borders Manila and Makati. A taxi from my condo in Makati to a hospital in Paranaque taking the South Luzon Highway during the daytime was about 40 minutes and I recall three pricey tolls. One of my girls used to live there and the commute by bus was 1-1.5 hours typically.
Also, this would be my first time in the Philippines and would include visits to some beaches beforehand. However, what would it be like to be in Manila during Christmas season? This would also include New Years Eve.That's the highest of the high season, so popular destinations will be booked and pricey. Transport will the same. A lot of people leave Manila for the provinces, and since Christmas falls on a Thursday I won't be surprised if the gov't declares Friday a national holiday. I love New Year's Eve in Manila, but some are terrified by it. The fireworks. The firecrackers. The gunfire.
Its further from Makati than you think when you factor in traffic. Christmas / New Year in Manila is hell. The streets are literally choked with traffic. The malls are wall to wall with Filipino's out in family groups 'shopping'. If you enjoy walking past gridlocked traffic in the tropical heat to malls that are a crush 24 x7 then by all means come. I hope this place your staying has a nice pool because you're going to be spending an awful lot of time there wondering why the hell you came LOL!
AV.Yes, the malls are crowded, but Tomasb wasn't asking about malls, was he?
Hanging out by the pool during the day is a leisurely way to enjoy a holiday. Hit the dating sites and look for girls living in Paranque, Las Pinas / Alabang, and Cavite who will come over for a swim. No bar is worth going to before 1030 pm, and nightclubs not until 1 am, so do the traveling to Makati and Manila at night. It's not so bad.
Paranaque borders Pasay which borders Manila and Makati. A taxi from my condo in Makati to a hospital in Paranaque taking the South Luzon Highway during the daytime was about 40 minutes and I recall three pricey tolls. One of my girls used to live there and the commute by bus was 1-1.5 hours typically.
That's the highest of the high season, so popular destinations will be booked and pricey. Transport will the same. A lot of people leave Manila for the provinces, and since Christmas falls on a Thursday I won't be surprised if the gov't declares Friday a national holiday. I love New Year's Eve in Manila, but some are terrified by it. The fireworks. The firecrackers. The gunfire.
Yes, the malls are crowded, but Tomasb wasn't asking about malls, was he?
Hanging out by the pool during the day is a leisurely way to enjoy a holiday. Hit the dating sites and look for girls living in Paranque, Las Pinas / Alabang, and Cavite who will come over for a swim. No bar is worth going to before 1030 pm, and nightclubs not until 1 am, so do the traveling to Makati and Manila at night. It's not so bad.I don't know if this apartment has a pool, which is the big question I need to confirm. Otherwise, I don't care if it's free to stay with minimum responsibilities (walking the dog). If no pool, then it's a no go.
I don't know if this apartment has a pool, which is the big question I need to confirm. Otherwise, I don't care if it's free to stay with minimum responsibilities (walking the dog). If no pool, then it's a no go.Absolutely. Unless you're an alcoholic you're going to be bored shirtless. The girls will be mostly with their families in the malls & if they do come, they will be hours & hours in traffic.
The special delight of New Year in Manila you will only want to experience once in your life. Mortar like explosions that go on for days, the very real possibility of being struck by stray ordinance or having your abode burned down. Why do you think that family is decamping over the Christmas break?
Honestly you would be better going to AC or a resort.
The Phils & in particular, Manila is a bachelors paradise most of the year but Christmas? Hmmm.
If you stay & make a go of it let us know how you got on. Me, I'm leaving LOL!
AV.
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The Phils & in particular, Manila is a bachelors paradise most of the year but Christmas? Hmmm.
If you stay & make a go of it let us know how you got on. Me, I'm leaving LOL!
AV.Was planning Christmas in Manila but now I think I'll hop a flight to Dubai and see my Tagged Filipinao who will be having time off and no ticket home. (Thought about getting her ticket to come home but she would want time with famioly and kids, not spending all day in bed with me.).
Here comes a quick field report from my time in Makati.
Staid in city garden grand, which is strategically located near Burgos.
Hotel staff is friendly and security concerned, however no issues with bringing girls in.
Found a sports bar In walking distance, first floor with two pool table, girls are not aggressive and pleasant on the eyes in their bikinis.
Blow job in the corner available offered for 2.000.
Alternative Available private room for 1.700 + lucky tip.
Pleasant and entertaining company, and better exchange rate compared to the street official money changer.
To me overall a very pleasant place recommend to spend a visit.
As of girls performance, offered 4.000 if she can blow me within 5 min, otherwise 0.
She didn't accepted the challenge as its against house rule, but claimed she could have done it.
Lots of girls outside, my advice, wake up early in the morning, stroll along the road and you will find most gorgeous girls from overnight work.
This way you can save yourself the hassle to run from bar to bar to find them.
Can you share with us the name of the sports bar?
Or is it in fact "Makati Sports Bar"?
Here comes a quick field report from my time in Makati.
Staid in city garden grand, which is strategically located near Burgos.
Hotel staff is friendly and security concerned, however no issues with bringing girls in.
Found a sports bar In walking distance, first floor with two pool table, girls are not aggressive and pleasant on the eyes in their bikinis.
Blow job in the corner available offered for 2.000.
Alternative Available private room for 1.700 + lucky tip.
Pleasant and entertaining company, and better exchange rate compared to the street official money changer.
To me overall a very pleasant place recommend to spend a visit.
As of girls performance, offered 4.000 if she can blow me within 5 min, otherwise 0.
She didn't accepted the challenge as its against house rule, but claimed she could have done it.
Lots of girls outside, my advice, wake up early in the morning, stroll along the road and you will find most gorgeous girls from overnight work.
This way you can save yourself the hassle to run from bar to bar to find them.
LuvAsianTang
11-29-14, 10:42
Oh no! I didn't impress Socker!
I can live with that. In any case, I probably don't have anything to offer someone with his level of experience. My report is hopefully more valuable to a first-time visitor like me in terms of how things work in the Philippines. Just giving back in my small way as I was helped by the previous reports.Your report was well done and I'm sorry you took so much "bull socker" for not having any pictures. There is nothing in the rules that mandates that you show proof of your hottie with pictures, it's nice but not even really necessary. Please keep up the good work.
LAT.
Hi fellas,
Is Tiara oriental is girl friendly? I am arriving there in couple of days. Any leads to score is appreciated.
Thanks,
San
Wicked Roger
12-01-14, 00:10
Hi fellas,
Is Tiara oriental is girl friendly? I am arriving there in couple of days. Any leads to score is appreciated.
Thanks,
SanLike any hotel in Manila it is. I have stayed there and even managed to enjoy the company of 2 waitresses at that time but we had to go to a different hotel.
If you had RTFF you would know hotels are girl friendly some ask for I'd some will call when she leaves and some won't bother at all.
But you have been to Burgos so you would know.
BTW you seem to have a habit of asking more than giving (what is termed a manager on the UAE forum) so look forward to more giving FRs not "PM me her digits bro" FRs that you tend to write.
Hi boss,
I agree with you I have shown some laziness in last few months. I will certainly post my FR and will not ask more. Will explore Havana and Burgos and will post.
Thanks,
Sanysh
Like any hotel in Manila it is. I have stayed there and even managed to enjoy the company of 2 waitresses at that time but we had to go to a different hotel.
If you had RTFF you would know hotels are girl friendly some ask for I'd some will call when she leaves and some won't bother at all.
But you have been to Burgos so you would know.
BTW you seem to have a habit of asking more than giving (what is termed a manager on the UAE forum) so look forward to more giving FRs not "PM me her digits bro" FRs that you tend to write.
FreebieFan
12-02-14, 07:45
Had another Manila / Makati trip and on this occasion determined that I no longer need to set records and go for the Famous Skogis 5 in a day. Indeed I thought it would probably be just one a day for this trip with more time to myself instead of spending hours and hours in bed wearing out bed sheets.
Arrived having found my plane wonderfully empty with 3 seats to myself.
80 minutes in traffic from airport to hotel wasnt a problem as it gave me time to do the " Freebies back in town texts".
One of the prospects was a nice lady in Taguig who had said she would bring a 22 year old, but having received 5 texts in 5 minutes requesting load transfer I eliminated her.
First nights companion was Ms K. 21 years old with a happy smile. Quiet girl but nice body in the 42 kg mould. Went to Burgos but we didn't stay too long, too many smokers there and it now appears to have been taken over by Arabs. A once good street. Ms K left in the morning. I had time for lunch with a good mate and along comes Ms M. She has a shoe company and previously we had swam and there had been a good enthusiastic blow but no entry so to speak.
This time no swimming, and Ms M, now 24 had gained a few pounds but was still very presentable. Dinner and then dress off and entry allowed. I was happy she went home as a good sleep is a necessity now and again.
Next morning I'm taking a leisurely breakfast when Ms and 21 texts to say she's in Makati. On previous trip she had been 2 hours late. On that occasion we got to the shower together, but her mother rang with an emergency so she left in a hurry. She had promised to make up for this, on this occasion. She was 90 minutes early this time. She was very shy telling me she had only been with one guy when she was 17 , who had basically raped her one day, rendering her an un-virgin. She also later found out her was married. She said she hadn't done any kissing from 17-21 . So she was cautious, but entry was slowly achieved. Later she texted me and said it felt like "some thing had cracked". LOL. She left in the afternoon and 2 hours later Ms K arrived.
Ms K had been a 19 year old virgin when first met 3 years ago and we had kept chatting and she maintains I'm the only guy she has ever been with. Her visit to me, courtesy of a few lies to Mom, was the first night she would spend with a guy, she said. Dinner, drinks, and then the pleasure of shaving her. Thanks Schick. Lots of bonking and her first overnight was done.
She left, and another leisurely breakfast ensued before the arrival of Ms J. First met her when she was 20 and she's now 24. Slim, with a 19 inch waist and only 40 kgs, she's not to everyone's tastes size wise. . She told me she's in front of GB3. And there she was, red cocktail dress on, high fire engine red shoes on, and long legs on display. And it was only 11 am. Looked very good to me. Girl is a hard working girl with her own store and two other part time jobs, she now owns a lot, and a taxi and is working on building a piggery. We had a lovely afternoon and evening and she left in the morning.
Then the day got busy.
A DIA girl I had been wechatting says she will show. But she's 1. 5 hours late. She shows, and we go get her a bikini. Takes 25 minutes trying various ones on. If her bag hadn't been in my room I would have left her there. We swim and I go to take shower, with her, but she's locked the door tighter than a dreum and takes 30 minutes to have a shower. By now, I know this isn't a girl I want anymore. She was cute, 42 kgs, 22, but scatty brained. Send her off, and then Ms K says she's on her way, could I be free and give her an hour of fun. She arrived and had a friend with her. Friend said she wouldn't join in the fun but could she watch. Sure, no problem.
And then to top off the day, Ms K, the first on my list, came by for dinner and bonk. Met her outside GB3, and she had on cute little black dress, black high heels and a happy smile. So that meant I had 4 girls in my room during the day, but only 3 got bonked. So much for having a quiet trip.
Miss K accompanied me to the airport, as I had an early morning flight and she lives near the airport. Who knew there was mad traffic on Edsa at 5 am. ? and who knew you had to pay attention to the taxi driver and even though he repeated that he knew which terminal you had stated, he still drove to the wrong one. Checking in 15 minutes before your flight isn't good for blood pressure!
Overall, more and more Koreans to be seen on the streets. More and more Arabs. More and more Indians around. Girls in the malls etc seem to be getting fatter and fatter and not caring about it. Another good happy trip.
I went to the Havan Club for my maiden visit this Tuesday evening. Arriving late around 2 am with an ex-pat friend who lives in Makati, I met an attractive girl at the bar along with her friend. Since I mentioned that I was planning a visit to Boracay, they immediately warmed up to me both expressing interest in providing travel company.
Since the cafe closes at 3 am, I found myself walking out of the bar with the more attractive one -- let's call her Jade -- and we walked over the taxi area while her friend sat at an outdoor area with her other friends. Jade suggested that her girl friend wanted to join us for a threesome but it would cost $5000 pesos. Familiar with this ruse, I asked Jade if this was the total price or only for her friend and Jade said the price was only for her friend and she was not charging me anything. Naturally, I assumed they would split the proceeds and at $2500 pesos each it appeared to be a reasonable price to me so I agreed and she went to get her friend to join us.
At the apartment, it was quite an enjoyable threesome and both girls were very turned on and accommodating to my requests. The other girl left after an hour with the typical excuse of having a kid at home etc. But since Jade decided to stay over, it was not an issue for me.
We ended having sex after the other girl had left and once again in the morning.
Later in the morning, she said that she would help me buy an extra phone (for local country calls) at the mall. I purchased a phone and took her to a nice place in the Greenbelt for lunch called Mesa. At that point, I thought our day was over and she would return to her apartment, however, she accompanied me back to the apartment where she initiated sex again. Much to our chagrin, her period started so we had to curtail our activities. She claimed she was early.
At this point, she dressed and started to leave but not before asking me for more money. I reviewed with her what she had said the night before about the original price and told her I assumed she was sharing these proceeds with her friend and I would not give her more money, plus I did not have any extra pesos with me. Jade's retort was that her friend would not share the $5000.
With her. Basically, she is either lying or her friend f*ed her over as I would not have agreed to pay $10 k for the both of them; nor would her friend had joined us under this financial arrangement.
At that point, Jade meekly existed my apartment though we have communicated since then a few times via text. My ex-pat friend thinks she wanted to 'cash out' with me since her period had started and she was out of action for this coming weekend. Not sure of her rationale, but she basically cashiered any chance I might have taken her to Boracay. Before that, I though the fact that I never gave her any money would provide GF status if we went there, regardless of the financial arrangement she may have had with her friend. Now, I am quite skeptical of her motivations.
Jade also tried to tell me that the going take out price at Cafe Havana was $5000 per girl. After re-reading a few posts on the board, it appears half that price is more likely though not entirely sure. Any comments?
I went to the Havan Club for my maiden visit this Tuesday evening. Arriving late around 2 am with an ex-pat friend who lives in Makati, I met an attractive girl at the bar along with her friend. Since I mentioned that I was planning a visit to Boracay, they immediately warmed up to me both expressing interest in providing travel company.
Since the cafe closes at 3 am, I found myself walking out of the bar with the more attractive one -- let's call her Jade -- and we walked over the taxi area while her friend sat at an outdoor area with her other friends. Jade suggested that her girl friend wanted to join us for a threesome but it would cost $5000 pesos. Familiar with this ruse, I asked Jade if this was the total price or only for her friend and Jade said the price was only for her friend and she was not charging me anything. Naturally, I assumed they would split the proceeds and at $2500 pesos each it appeared to be a reasonable price to me so I agreed and she went to get her friend to join us.
At the apartment, it was quite an enjoyable threesome and both girls were very turned on and accommodating to my requests. The other girl left after an hour with the typical excuse of having a kid at home etc. But since Jade decided to stay over, it was not an issue for me.
We ended having sex after the other girl had left and once again in the morning.
Later in the morning, she said that she would help me buy an extra phone (for local country calls) at the mall. I purchased a phone and took her to a nice place in the Greenbelt for lunch called Mesa. At that point, I thought our day was over and she would return to her apartment, however, she accompanied me back to the apartment where she initiated sex again. Much to our chagrin, her period started so we had to curtail our activities. She claimed she was early.
At this point, she dressed and started to leave but not before asking me for more money. I reviewed with her what she had said the night before about the original price and told her I assumed she was sharing these proceeds with her friend and I would not give her more money, plus I did not have any extra pesos with me. Jade's retort was that her friend would not share the $5000.
With her. Basically, she is either lying or her friend f*ed her over as I would not have agreed to pay $10 k for the both of them; nor would her friend had joined us under this financial arrangement.
At that point, Jade meekly existed my apartment though we have communicated since then a few times via text. My ex-pat friend thinks she wanted to 'cash out' with me since her period had started and she was out of action for this coming weekend. Not sure of her rationale, but she basically cashiered any chance I might have taken her to Boracay. Before that, I though the fact that I never gave her any money would provide GF status if we went there, regardless of the financial arrangement she may have had with her friend. Now, I am quite skeptical of her motivations.
Jade also tried to tell me that the going take out price at Cafe Havana was $5000 per girl. After re-reading a few posts on the board, it appears half that price is more likely though not entirely sure. Any comments?I would like to hear (juicy) details of the 3 some plus a censored pic (of the 2) would also be nice, otherwise it sounds like you played your cards well. Kudos.
I went to the Havan Club for my maiden visit this Tuesday evening. Arriving late around 2 am with an ex-pat friend who lives in Makati, I met an attractive girl at the bar along with her friend. Since I mentioned that I was planning a visit to Boracay, they immediately warmed up to me both expressing interest in providing travel company.
Since the cafe closes at 3 am, I found myself walking out of the bar with the more attractive one -- let's call her Jade -- and we walked over the taxi area while her friend sat at an outdoor area with her other friends. Jade suggested that her girl friend wanted to join us for a threesome but it would cost $5000 pesos. Familiar with this ruse, I asked Jade if this was the total price or only for her friend and Jade said the price was only for her friend and she was not charging me anything. Naturally, I assumed they would split the proceeds and at $2500 pesos each it appeared to be a reasonable price to me so I agreed and she went to get her friend to join us.
At the apartment, it was quite an enjoyable threesome and both girls were very turned on and accommodating to my requests. The other girl left after an hour with the typical excuse of having a kid at home etc. But since Jade decided to stay over, it was not an issue for me.
We ended having sex after the other girl had left and once again in the morning.
Later in the morning, she said that she would help me buy an extra phone (for local country calls) at the mall. I purchased a phone and took her to a nice place in the Greenbelt for lunch called Mesa. At that point, I thought our day was over and she would return to her apartment, however, she accompanied me back to the apartment where she initiated sex again. Much to our chagrin, her period started so we had to curtail our activities. She claimed she was early.
At this point, she dressed and started to leave but not before asking me for more money. I reviewed with her what she had said the night before about the original price and told her I assumed she was sharing these proceeds with her friend and I would not give her more money, plus I did not have any extra pesos with me. Jade's retort was that her friend would not share the $5000.
With her. Basically, she is either lying or her friend f*ed her over as I would not have agreed to pay $10 k for the both of them; nor would her friend had joined us under this financial arrangement.
At that point, Jade meekly existed my apartment though we have communicated since then a few times via text. My ex-pat friend thinks she wanted to 'cash out' with me since her period had started and she was out of action for this coming weekend. Not sure of her rationale, but she basically cashiered any chance I might have taken her to Boracay. Before that, I though the fact that I never gave her any money would provide GF status if we went there, regardless of the financial arrangement she may have had with her friend. Now, I am quite skeptical of her motivations.
Jade also tried to tell me that the going take out price at Cafe Havana was $5000 per girl. After re-reading a few posts on the board, it appears half that price is more likely though not entirely sure. Any comments?Attractive P4 P'ers in Havana are not GF material. They are hard core, looking for big the bucks. Your Makati mate was right, they were trying to game you. Bear in mind that they probably get idiots paying them these prices & trotting them off to resorts with the 'meter running' so they can't be entirely blamed for assuming you were in the same category. I'm unclear how much you ended up paying or what you actually got for your money from miss 1 hour?
I spend all day negotiating deals, on my off time the last thing I want to do is get into tough negotiations about what / how much etc. Expensive P4 P'ers are too much work LOL!
AV.
Thanks. Well, if you insist.
When when I arrived home with the two girls, I took my time with them. First making out with one while the other was in the bathroom, then reversing. DATY with both while the other watched, etc. When I started to bang Jade, the first girl, the other girl slipped into the living room and I called for her to come in the room and participate. A threesome does not include one girl texting in the other room! Thereupon, Jade called her to join us, which she did immediately. I found these girls were very compliant.
One time during the act, I asked Jade to suck my nipples while the other was on top of me. She misinterpreted and asked 'you want me to suck my friends nipples? I said no, I want you to suck mine. Then I chuckled to myself and after a few seconds, I thought why not? And told her to suck her friends nipples instead while the other girl rode me cowgirl style. She readily complied and both seemed to enjoyed it.
Later on, I was banging girl number 2 while I engaged in a DFK with Jade who was lying side by side with her friend. As I was getting ready to come, I asked Jade if I should come inside her friend and she agreed. It was all pretty hot because they seemed to be into it though Jade claimed this was only her second time doing a trio, but who knows how they count events here.
Sorry, forgot to take a photo.
I would like to hear (juicy) details of the 3 some plus a censored pic (of the 2) would also be nice, otherwise it sounds like you played your cards well. Kudos.
I paid the girl who stayed one hour $5 k and assumed she would split it with her friend later as I never gave the first girl any money at all. The first girl had done the negotiations on behalf of the second girl. Since Jade, the first girl, stayed the night through the following afternoon and we had sex multiple times, I felt like that was a good price when you throw in the threesome too. Like I noted, if her friend did not share the $5 k with her, then Jade got ripped off, but not by me.
I am still texting with Jade today as she sent me a text late last night. Since she is on her period, I don't have much interest in hanging out with her particularly when I considered her request for more money yesterday. Before that all happened though she was acting like a normal GF at the mall and in the restaurant and it was pretty nice experience overall. She actually showed a little class for a working girl but blew it when she tried to cajol more money from me.
Attractive P4 P'ers in Havana are not GF material. They are hard core, looking for big the bucks. Your Makati mate was right, they were trying to game you. Bear in mind that they probably get idiots paying them these prices & trotting them off to resorts with the 'meter running' so they can't be entirely blamed for assuming you were in the same category. I'm unclear how much you ended up paying or what you actually got for your money from miss 1 hour?
I spend all day negotiating deals, on my off time the last thing I want to do is get into tough negotiations about what / how much etc. Expensive P4 P'ers are too much work LOL!
AV.
I have pulled a couple girls from Havana Cafe. The biggest surprise was a couple years ago, a total spinner, maybe 20-22, who I found sitting on a low wall 30 seconds walk away. We never discussed $$. Went back to my hotel, did the deed twice, she smoked like a chimney, was tons of fun, chatty, left never asking for a dime, even when I offered as she walked out the door. Miracles do happen, never heard from her again.
You are correct, half of P5k for TLN would be acceptable to most at Cafe Havana. That's what I paid last time. Your Girl 1 stayed long time, and Girl 2 left after one hour with an excuse she did not share with you before you engaged her. I might give a bare mnimum P .5 k. If she performed during that hour, she should have gotten P1k max. Girls 1 and 2 may both accept that Girl 2 owes Girl 1 some or most of the payment. Still, it will be very difficult for Girl 1 to actually collect. The money is probably spent within 24 hours. That's the way they are.
I paid the girl who stayed one hour $5 k and assumed she would split it with her friend later as I never gave the first girl any money at all. The first girl had done the negotiations on behalf of the second girl. Since Jade, the first girl, stayed the night through the following afternoon and we had sex multiple times, I felt like that was a good price when you throw in the threesome too. Like I noted, if her friend did not share the $5 k with her, then Jade got ripped off, but not by me..
One thing I failed to do was ask whether this whole deal for the threesome was ST or LT.
I was probably lucky that the first girl was more than willing to spend LT with me. The second girl performance was only so-so, which was funny since she was the one who wanted to turn it into a 3 some.
In retrospect, I should have given the money in total to the first girl and let her split it up with her friend.
However, this was such an odd situation it escaped me that girl number 2 would screw over her friend who totally arranged for her to be there. When you think about it, for a change, the girl demonstrated the awful ethics that exists in their chosen profession. Though this time the victim was one of the girls.
As a footnote, I heard from girl number one yesterday who was going to introduce me to her hot roomie (so she says). However, now she says the roomie does not want to meet me because of what happened between these two girls. So I am probably being portrayed as the bad guy now.
Guess I will not be going to Havana Club for a while. LOL!
You are correct, half of P5k for TLN would be acceptable to most at Cafe Havana. That's what I paid last time. Your Girl 1 stayed long time, and Girl 2 left after one hour with an excuse she did not share with you before you engaged her. I might give a bare mnimum P .5 k. If she performed during that hour, she should have gotten P1k max. Girls 1 and 2 may both accept that Girl 2 owes Girl 1 some or most of the payment. Still, it will be very difficult for Girl 1 to actually collect. The money is probably spent within 24 hours. That's the way they are.
One thing I failed to do was ask whether this whole deal for the threesome was ST or LT.
I was probably lucky that the first girl was more than willing to spend LT with me. The second girl performance was only so-so, which was funny since she was the one who wanted to turn it into a 3 some.
In retrospect, I should have given the money in total to the first girl and let her split it up with her friend.
However, this was such an odd situation it escaped me that girl number 2 would screw over her friend who totally arranged for her to be there. When you think about it, for a change, the girl demonstrated the awful ethics that exists in their chosen profession. Though this time the victim was one of the girls.
As a footnote, I heard from girl number one yesterday who was going to introduce me to her hot roomie (so she says). However, now she says the roomie does not want to meet me because of what happened between these two girls. So I am probably being portrayed as the bad guy now.
Guess I will not be going to Havana Club for a while. LOL!As I read the initial FR & follow up posts it seemed to me that girl #1 is relatively new to the game while the second was high mileage. If I were you I would be letting girl #1 know loud & clear that she will be compensated properly. Offers to pimp other girls for you are valuable! This can lead to an endless conga line of hotties through your boudoir, tailored to your tastes & at good prices with little effort on your part. Get back to her & sort it out man! LOL! Just watch how much you're agreeing to.
AV.
Interesting comment and will take under advisement. I actually told her that I would give her some money at a later date but at the time I only had a few hundred pesos. I am still sorting it out about what to do. However, I am not sure Girl#1 is new to the game. Nevertheless, it was stupid of her to tell me to pay the other girl at the time. However, she did not seem all that stupid, and was actually pretty bright and well traveled for a Filipina, which makes me wonder if she is telling me the truth about the other not paying her and was simply trying to game me for more money?
In any event, what would you pay her given the circumstances?
As I read the initial FR & follow up posts it seemed to me that girl #1 is relatively new to the game while the second was high mileage. If I were you I would be letting girl #1 know loud & clear that she will be compensated properly. Offers to pimp other girls for you are valuable! This can lead to an endless conga line of hotties through your boudoir, tailored to your tastes & at good prices with little effort on your part. Get back to her & sort it out man! LOL! Just watch how much you're agreeing to.
AV.
Interesting comment and will take under advisement. I actually told her that I would give her some money at a later date but at the time I only had a few hundred pesos. I am still sorting it out about what to do. However, I am not sure Girl#1 is new to the game. Nevertheless, it was stupid of her to tell me to pay the other girl at the time. However, she did not seem all that stupid, and was actually pretty bright and well traveled for a Filipina, which makes me wonder if she is telling me the truth about the other not paying her and was simply trying to game me for more money?
In any event, what would you pay her given the circumstances?Oh good god! They never tell the truth about anything! LOL! You're in a better position to 'read' her than us. Good luck!
AV.
Last night I went to Cafe Havana and got a small table. I did not see anyone who interested me except for a dyed blond Filipina who appeared preoccupied with her phone and she eventually left after parading back and forth to the inside of the cafe and Starbucks. I think she found a client as she left with another girl. The rest were like my last visit of earlier this week: MILF's, skinny waifs, and several unkempt and poorly dressed women. In any event, I left by myself.
When I got into my taxi around 2 am, the driver introduced himself to me and told me that he owned a dorm apartment in Makati where woman stay and would I like to meet some of them? Due to the late hour, I declined, however, he did show me an assortment of normal type photos of different women. When I say normal photos, I mean they appeared to be taken randomly by family members, friends, etc. so none of the photos were provocative but did give me a good idea of the 'talent' in his stable. He said they were available for $3k, which included an overnight stay if I wanted company for that length of time -- basically up to me. Quite a few were young and attractive -- judging by the photos -- and many, he claimed, were students trying to fund their tuition. Anyway, the advantage would be to meet them in a relaxed setting within their casual living quarters. The taxi driver was an amiable older guy and good English speaker who gave me his business card. We joked about whether he took advantage of the goods and he said that he never did as that compromised his position as their landlord. I suppose he drives the taxi for marketing purposes. If I called him, he would pick me up and arrange for me to meet the girls at his apartment.
Has anyone heard about this type of scenario?
Last night I went to Cafe Havana and got a small table. I did not see anyone who interested me except for a dyed blond Filipina who appeared preoccupied with her phone and she eventually left after parading back and forth to the inside of the cafe and Starbucks. I think she found a client as she left with another girl. The rest were like my last visit of earlier this week: MILF's, skinny waifs, and several unkempt and poorly dressed women. In any event, I left by myself.
When I got into my taxi around 2 am, the driver introduced himself to me and told me that he owned a dorm apartment in Makati where woman stay and would I like to meet some of them? Due to the late hour, I declined, however, he did show me an assortment of normal type photos of different women. When I say normal photos, I mean they appeared to be taken randomly by family members, friends, etc. so none of the photos were provocative but did give me a good idea of the 'talent' in his stable. He said they were available for $3k, which included an overnight stay if I wanted company for that length of time -- basically up to me. Quite a few were young and attractive -- judging by the photos -- and many, he claimed, were students trying to fund their tuition. Anyway, the advantage would be to meet them in a relaxed setting within their casual living quarters. The taxi driver was an amiable older guy and good English speaker who gave me his business card. We joked about whether he took advantage of the goods and he said that he never did as that compromised his position as their landlord. I suppose he drives the taxi for marketing purposes. If I called him, he would pick me up and arrange for me to meet the girls at his apartment.
Has anyone heard about this type of scenario?Tomasb,
The forum here is for someone like you to have tried it out and then give a full report. A report including quality and pricing. Of course some members here would like to know the address and if they can bypass the taxi driver and maybe get it for 500-1000. A direct cell number to the dorm would be perfect. Are you a team player or not?
I am only joking. It sounds too good to be true. Most dorm girls would not do this and certainly not in front of their peers! Use common sense and stay out of trouble. On the other hand if the driver was driving a yellow school bus.
Stay safe,
Dg8787.
When I got into my taxi around 2 am, the driver introduced himself to me and told me that he owned a dorm apartment in Makati where woman stay and would I like to meet some of them? . . <SNIP>. . . I suppose he drives the taxi for marketing purposes. If I called him, he would pick me up and arrange for me to meet the girls at his apartment.
Has anyone heard about this type of scenario?Very common, especially around Greenbelt but also I have been asked in Ortigas, and usually later at night any time after 11 pm.
Some of the drivers have laminated cards with their number to call.
Your guy probably didn't own the dorm; he was probably using that line to give extra credibility but who really knows?
Yeah, your right as it almost sounded to good to be true. However, RedKilt has confirmed the existence of these places. I plan on at least calling the taxi guy to arrange a time to come by and do an inspection. I don't think it's a dorm, per se, in the western terminology as in a 'university' dorm but a place where girls come to live in the city and either work or go to school.
If I do decide to select a girl, I will get her number, the dorm number, and also get the address of this place for future reference. I also would want to know her cut of the 3 k. It did not appear to be a dangerous thing to go there and will, of course, be carrying limited funds when I arrive.
Yes. A yellow school bus would be the optimum! LOL.
Tomasb,
The forum here is for someone like you to have tried it out and then give a full report. A report including quality and pricing. Of course some members here would like to know the address and if they can bypass the taxi driver and maybe get it for 500-1000. A direct cell number to the dorm would be perfect. Are you a team player or not?
I am only joking. It sounds too good to be true. Most dorm girls would not do this and certainly not in front of their peers! Use common sense and stay out of trouble. On the other hand if the driver was driving a yellow school bus.
Stay safe,
Dg8787.
I called my taxi driver from last night and asked him a few basic questions. Primarily, who do I pay -- the girl or him? Turns out I would pay the guy who is there, presumably the papasan. So it appears to be a standard brothel as he said the girls come down and introduce themselves etc. It's also 20 minutes from my hotel in central Makati, which tells me it is not even in Makati as he claims. The price is 3 k for the length of time one wants though imagine that's negotiable once there.
Quite unlikely that the taxi guy is the owner of the apartment or that these girls attend school not withstanding his laminated business card and line of BS from last night.
The photos of the girls reminded me a bit of a hotel I once stayed in Curitiba, Brazil. The front desk had a deck of playing card size photos of girls shaped much like American baseball cards with vital statistics etc. However, these photos of the girls are different sizes and shapes so the marketing similarity stops there.
Yeah, your right as it almost sounded to good to be true. However, RedKilt has confirmed the existence of these places. I plan on at least calling the taxi guy to arrange a time to come by and do an inspection. I don't think it's a dorm, per se, in the western terminology as in a 'university' dorm but a place where girls come to live in the city and either work or go to school.
If I do decide to select a girl, I will get her number, the dorm number, and also get the address of this place for future reference. I also would want to know her cut of the 3 k. It did not appear to be a dangerous thing to go there and will, of course, be carrying limited funds when I arrive.
Yes. A yellow school bus would be the optimum! LOL.
An one knows where to find high end clubs with model level girls? I know one or two in Cebu so there must be similar in Makati?
Pip Jaeger
12-15-14, 00:06
An one knows where to find high end clubs with model level girls? I know one or two in Cebu so there must be similar in Makati?RTFF, Skogis and Huts (among others) have recently reported about several of them.
BrainDrain
12-15-14, 03:50
I called my taxi driver from last night and asked him a few basic questions. PI'm not on the ground in Manila at the moment. For P3 k it sounds on the high side. Why not consider a BF? If you have to have the risk of going to a dodgy address with girls possibly held against their wishes why not just go legit?
I guess one advantage is the P3 k includes a room and venue, plus choice. I wonder if there is any re-dress if the girl doesn't perform.
I do not think there is a room available at this place as I think it only a dorm where the girls live. The driver said after I made my selection (s) he would drive me back to my place and pick her or them up in the morning. No idea about redress but that's a problem in any of these situations.
I went to a place off Burgos called Papillon on Thursday eve. That had at least 30 girls and is quite close to where I will be staying tonight so that's another option but don't know the BF or girl cost there. There is always the chance of a runner too. Since a P4 P girl took me there, I had plenty of girls coming by to say Hi and a few grabbed my crotch for good measure. This place amazed me because there were so many scantily clad women dancing and goofing off and very few punters.
I could always ask the P4 P girl to take me there again to reintroduce me to some of her friends and the mama-san so yes that is another option. In fact, I have so many options tonight, including a total non-pro, that I am almost dizzy with the choices.
PS: I am flying out late morning tomorrow to another island in PHP so will not return for a while.
I'm not on the ground in Manila at the moment. For P3 k it sounds on the high side. Why not consider a BF? If you have to have the risk of going to a dodgy address with girls possibly held against their wishes why not just go legit?
I guess one advantage is the P3 k includes a room and venue, plus choice. I wonder if there is any re-dress if the girl doesn't perform.
BrainDrain
12-15-14, 07:25
In fact, I have so many options tonight, including a total non-pro, that I am almost dizzy with the choices.
.That's why the slogan says "It's more fun in the Philippines"?
Hi. I haven't posted in a long time. And haven't been out mongering in Burgos in years. So last night I went out in Burgos and was struck by the number of massage girls. Now, as a long time customer of Bangkok's massage parlors. I've enjoyed the occasional good massage coupled w / a fun ending there in Thailand. However I have no experience in the PI.
I was curious to try these massages on Burgos. But I do find myself hesitant to drop my pants in an unknown location.
If anyone has any experience and / or recommendations. I'd be anxious to hear. They were quoting P400 (for an hour I guess + tips I'm sure).
Regards.
Lalake.
Hi. I haven't posted in a long time. And haven't been out mongering in Burgos in years. So last night I went out in Burgos and was struck by the number of massage girls. Now, as a long time customer of Bangkok's massage parlors. I've enjoyed the occasional good massage coupled w / a fun ending there in Thailand. However I have no experience in the PI.
I was curious to try these massages on Burgos. But I do find myself hesitant to drop my pants in an unknown location.
If anyone has any experience and / or recommendations. I'd be anxious to hear. They were quoting P400 (for an hour I guess + tips I'm sure).
Regards.
Lalake.There have always free lance girls walking the street offering themselves. These are usually to be avoided. Disease / Criminality being the risks. If you're seeing girls in uniforms a'la AC, then this is a new thing. Possible to cherry pick some good ones but you need to be very careful. P400/hr is rate for legit massage only. Expect to pay much more for extra's.
AV.
There have always free lance girls walking the street offering themselves. These are usually to be avoided. Disease / Criminality being the risks. If you're seeing girls in uniforms a'la AC, then this is a new thing. Possible to cherry pick some good ones but you need to be very careful. P400/hr is rate for legit massage only. Expect to pay much more for extra's.
AV.One or two in uniforms. Most are standing in front of Spas, Mostly up on second floor. You can see the "MASSAGE" signs in the windows.
Just a follow up on the so called dorms my taxi driver wanted to take me too a few nights ago. I got in a taxi the following night with a different driver and asked him about these dorms. He just laughed and indicated they were bordellos and not dorms and he took me over to show me one. This one was in Makati and a few blocks off Puyat, sometimes known as Buendia, though never got the exact address. Apparently, there is a similar establishment nearby though not sure if under mutual ownership.
When I arrived and walked in the large living room, I sat on a long couch and the girls paraded in wearing various sexy cocktail attire type dresses. There were quite a few at around 11 pm. I would estimate about 40 and most attractive though you could not talk with them or interact with the exception of exchanging smiles. The junior papasan sat next to me and initially quoted $4000 whereupon I balked and he lowered his price to $3000 but said he would have to confirm new price with his boss. I tried to find out if any of the girls were bi, but he did not appear to understand the term. Basically, he kept saying it was normal sex.
I really like to interact with girls but since there was no chance to talk, one has to go on instinct so decide against it and left with the taxi driver. After I returned to my apartment, the the first taxi driver contacted me about taking me assuring me that two girl action was possible but I think it's unlikely that type of thing occurs unless you are lucky in your selection. I told him some other time.
Basically, any representation that indicates these dorms are for non-pros who are either working or going to school appears highly unlikely. More than likely, they are simply bordellos where girls hang out hoping to be selected.
I'll be heading back to Makati next month for a few weeks. Have decided to change things up a bit this time and have booked an apartment through airbnb, works out to be much cheaper and also the place is a short walk to greenbelt, let's see how it works out.
Only downside is the 2250 arrival time, can't have much fun after touch down, but will rest up for the next day and the good thing arrival is in terminal 3 rather than that shit house of a terminal 1.
I didn't sample any of the action around Burgos street last time, was far too busy with freebies, may actually check it out this time for some legit massages. Not really interested in pay to play as freebies are so easy to be found.
Will be in town from January 21 til February 17, so if anyone wants to hang out, have a chat, swap stories, feel free to shoot a PM.
Cerberus666
12-18-14, 16:25
Hi guys,
I've been to EDSA and Burgos and had some top notch girls and some real deadbeats. Between the girly drink, the bar fine, the girls and time invested I'm wondering if there is a better way; call and have an escort delivered directly to my room.
I've looked through Makatiescorts, Manilacourtesans and a few others. A few are all the same company. Price is a bit steep but the convenience sounds nice. Last night I was at EDSA, pulled a girl out of the space bar and after blowing me once she proceeded to get so drunk she wanted to fuck without a condom. I guess I should have known better than to let her drink a whole bottle of wine over three hours.
I've also found lots of interesting ads on backpage for both independents and massage girls (who apparently fuck too).
This one in particular has caught my eye but I can't find any reviews or her mentioned anywhere else. I'm skeptical. http://manila.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/totally-independent-sexy-cute-and-real-no-bait-and-switch/2924166.
I did a search for her name as well as some others but came up with nothing. I'd be interested to know if any of this is legit or just a waste of time and I should go back to EDSA tomorrow and roll the dice again.
Thanks,
C666
Cool Traveler
12-18-14, 19:43
T,
I got a taxi driver to go get a girl for me once. When the girl came up, I had to send her off right away. She looked about 14 or 15. Big trouble and way too young!
Last night I went to Cafe Havana and got a small table. I did not see anyone who interested me except for a dyed blond Filipina who appeared preoccupied with her phone and she eventually left after parading back and forth to the inside of the cafe and Starbucks. I think she found a client as she left with another girl. The rest were like my last visit of earlier this week: MILF's, skinny waifs, and several unkempt and poorly dressed women. In any event, I left by myself.
When I got into my taxi around 2 am, the driver introduced himself to me and told me that he owned a dorm apartment in Makati where woman stay and would I like to meet some of them? Due to the late hour, I declined, however, he did show me an assortment of normal type photos of different women. When I say normal photos, I mean they appeared to be taken randomly by family members, friends, etc. so none of the photos were provocative but did give me a good idea of the 'talent' in his stable. He said they were available for $3k, which included an overnight stay if I wanted company for that length of time -- basically up to me. Quite a few were young and attractive -- judging by the photos -- and many, he claimed, were students trying to fund their tuition. Anyway, the advantage would be to meet them in a relaxed setting within their casual living quarters. The taxi driver was an amiable older guy and good English speaker who gave me his business card. We joked about whether he took advantage of the goods and he said that he never did as that compromised his position as their landlord. I suppose he drives the taxi for marketing purposes. If I called him, he would pick me up and arrange for me to meet the girls at his apartment.
Has anyone heard about this type of scenario?
Only downside is the 2250 arrival time, can't have much fun after touch down, but will rest up for the next day and the good thing arrival is in terminal 3 rather than that shit house of a terminal 1.
Assuming no problems with customs or immigration that's a decent arrival time. NAIA 3 is close to the skyway so you could be in Makati quickly. You could be in your hotel room by 1230. Burgos is still kicking then and for a few hours after.
Wicked Roger
12-19-14, 10:30
Assuming no problems with customs or immigration that's a decent arrival time. NAIA 3 is close to the skyway so you could be in Makati quickly. You could be in your hotel room by 1230. Burgos is still kicking then and for a few hours after.Would read GE and my FRs as the roadworks to extend Skyway are causing grief - 90 minutes from T3 taxi stand to Skyway admittedly at 5 pm.
But Emirates arrive the same time at T3 and its flights are full to bursting. Lots of private taxis asking for 3-5 times more than the standard rate.
I hope it is better than when I was last there (last week) and good luck Smf69.
RTFF, Skogis and Huts (among others) have recently reported about several of them.Hmm I wasn't able to find these. I am specifically looking for high end clubs with high end girls similar to Air Force One. There must be more clubs like this in Makati area?
Member #4387
12-19-14, 17:29
Hmm I wasn't able to find these. I am specifically looking for high end clubs with high end girls similar to Air Force One. There must be more clubs like this in Makati area?You google these clubs: Valkyrie, Gramercy71, The Prive and Universe. Not a mecca for FL's but there are a few around these spots as well. If you have game you will never walk alone back home. Pricings is normal internationals Hi so clubbing prices and in weekends mostly cover charge applies. One small trick (but I am sure you know this allready). Allways get the VIP treatment as in you have a booth or table on your own (10-20 k piso often incl booze and extras). Be adviced especially during weekends that booking VIP table is the way to go. Will put u on the guestlist as well so u can skip the line. Nb! Dresscode(collared t shirt and fancy jeans seems ok). Here you will get group of females attention and it is here your work starts. Be careful in your approach as some girls here are well connected and dont try to hit on girls having bf around(they can also be well connected and angry, lol). It is all good fun. I have no idea how the girls in Air Force One looks like as i never visit places like that but to your comfort the places i have listed for u is where i have seen Manilas finest.
Some would prob recommend Palladium(basement of New World hotel opposite Greenbelt 3). In my book it is not a high end place but others can ofcourse be of different opinion.
For whatever it's worth, I'd like to produce an interim short report on my preparations for the Makati / Manila trip. I've focused on 3 sources: DIA (because, correct me if I'm wrong, it is the only site that doesn't require the use of credit card / payment. Which is a security breach in my book), FB and Skype.
DIA: After 3-4 days of daily DIA scouting, I've got about 20 ladies that I've exchanged messages with at least once. I've looked only for good looking, young and living in or near Manila.
FB. Some of the girls suggested to connect on FB. I did that. I've also searched their friend's pools to find good looking girls and sent random invites. As a result. I have 7 FB contacts.
Skype. I got 4 Skype contacts from DIA chats.
Assuming I get the DIA pool of 20 to 30 good looking ones in the next month. These 30 would probably translate into 10 Skype contacts or FB contacts that are ready to do cam-to-cam. From these 10, I assume only 1-2 will be really cute (here, unfortunately, I'm not too compromising). So, as it stands now, the chances for a freebie are 50/50.
I have 1-2 months before I land in Manila, so will report before the trip on the final count with the hope that this will help others organize. Any feedback / advice is welcome, of course!
A.
FruitNinja
12-19-14, 20:20
I have 1-2 months before I land in Manila, so will report before the trip on the final count with the hope that this will help others organize. Any feedback / advice is welcome, of course! A.I always try and get the facebook account. The pictures you see on DIA are often far from what shows up. FB is a better way to see what they really look like. I'm getting a lot of fatties lately. Not that there's anything wrong with a little meat on an 18 year old.
I always try and get the facebook account. The pictures you see on DIA are often far from what shows up. FB is a better way to see what they really look like. I'm getting a lot of fatties lately. Not that there's anything wrong with a little meat on an 18 year old.Yes, FN, Facebook can often be a real eye-opener. Bikinis and resort pics confirm past experience with foreigners. Home pics tell a lot about her class and social level. Group pics show friends and lifestyle. Often, info on DIA is meaningless. Height, weight, education, etc. Can be total BS. I'm attracted to the slim gals and they are definitely becoming in short supply. I was reading lately that 'Chubby' is now becoming a desirable fashion statement. OMG - 'Proud to be a piglet'!
You google these clubs: Valkyrie, Gramercy71, The Prive and Universe. Allways get the VIP treatment as in you have a booth or table on your own (10-20 k piso often incl booze and extras). Be adviced especially during weekends that booking VIP table is the way to go. .Anyone around first weekend after New Years in January, ideally a group of 3-4 to get a table? I know it's not a guaranteed way to meet girls but it's fun if you are into clubbing (I am). Then there's always plan be.
Member #4387
12-19-14, 21:17
Assuming I get the DIA pool of 20 to 30 good looking ones in the next month. These 30 would probably translate into 10 Skype contacts or FB contacts that are ready to do cam-to-cam. From these 10, I assume only 1-2 will be really cute (here, unfortunately, I'm not too compromising). So, as it stands now, the chances for a freebie are 50/50.
I have 1-2 months before I land in Manila, so will report before the trip on the final count with the hope that this will help others organize. Any feedback / advice is welcome, of course!A.Just popping in with my experience. 2 weeks prior to arrival is more than enough time to fire up the profiles. Many of these girls have loads of punters communicating with them and they can run tired easily if it is to long until you set foot on phil soil. To help you not waste time on fuglies after one or two msg require them to go c2 c. It is no good excuse today claiming they don't have access to one. From your side you will quickly rule out fuglies instead of using valuable time communicating with a possible fugly "for ages" when you could have ruled her out in an instant with a quick c2 c shoot.
From 10 prepped prospects expect 10 to be ready (my experience anyway).
Just friendly piece of advice. Happy hunting.
Hmm I wasn't able to find these. I am specifically looking for high end clubs with high end girls similar to Air Force One. There must be more clubs like this in Makati area?Appears wires are crossed. Air Force One is not a night club. It's a KTV. It also has a massage palour. By "high-end girls" do you mean model looks? Do you mean educated and classy? Do you mean monied?
I posted this a long time ago, http://manilaclubbing.com/.
VeniceBoy72
12-20-14, 06:22
Need recommendations on a place close to NAIA to kill a few hours before my flight which is at 4 AM. Got recommendations on using AirForce One. Any other places the senior posters use?
Thanks!
Skogis. Thank you for your advice. Always helpful! My somewhat statistical approach to things tells me that DIA may not be enough to create a good pipeline of prospects that can be transferred from DIA to Skype and / or FB for a final screening. The question is, then, is there another free resource like DIA that can feed / expand the pipeline?
Kind regards! A.
Just popping in with my experience. 2 weeks prior to arrival is more than enough time to fire up the profiles. Many of these girls have loads of punters communicating with them and they can run tired easily if it is to long until you set foot on phil soil. To help you not waste time on fuglies after one or two msg require them to go c2 c. It is no good excuse today claiming they don't have access to one. From your side you will quickly rule out fuglies instead of using valuable time communicating with a possible fugly "for ages" when you could have ruled her out in an instant with a quick c2 c shoot.
From 10 prepped prospects expect 10 to be ready (my experience anyway).
Just friendly piece of advice. Happy hunting.
Skogis. Thank you for your advice. Always helpful! My somewhat statistical approach to things tells me that DIA may not be enough to create a good pipeline of prospects that can be transferred from DIA to Skype and / or FB for a final screening. The question is, then, is there another free resource like DIA that can feed / expand the pipeline?You might be over-planning Aibolit.
There is a lot of advice here on the board that will show you that the best laid plans will almost certainly go awry because of the nature of Manila and filipinas.
You also need to know that Skogis is a relatively young (tomost guys on ISG), blond-haired, blue-eyed viking with plenty of cash so don't try to emulate him too far unless you fit that mould.
CallSign Papa
12-20-14, 13:51
You might be over-planning Aibolit.
There is a lot of advice here on the board that will show you that the best laid plans will almost certainly go awry because of the nature of Manila and filipinas.Never a truer thing written about the magic of Makati (and Manila in general). Ideally you need a wingman in clubs like Prive and Raven as (1) the girls are generally in groups, so unless you've got grade A game, it's not straight-forward splitting one from the herd, and (2) the music in both places is banging loud.
But it shouldn't stop you diving in head first. Just be friendly, be polite, be confident.
Need recommendations on a place close to NAIA to kill a few hours before my flight which is at 4 AM. Got recommendations on using AirForce One. Any other places the senior posters use?
Thanks!Print 30 pages of this forum and do us all favor and RTFF on the plane.
I too have proven in the past that starting to pipeline more than 3 weeks before arrival consumes way to much of your time. These girls demand alot of chat time, etc or they think you hate them.
Thank you for the advice, RK. Regardless of the mold that I fit. I once under-planned and, as a result, found myself stranded with one date only (that was successful). That was because I was told that finding freebies on the spot in Manila is a piece of cake. I didn't find it to be so in the past. Sadly, my tastes are narrow and, when P4 P is involved, expensive, as I prefer young slim beauty. So, few trips to the mall didn't produce a single contact with the good looking girls for the reason that I didn't see any.
Perhaps, if I had more than 3-4 days on the ground, I would have figured things out. But. I never do have more than 4 days. So, I prefer to overplan and get some GF in Manila (something I greatly like about this place), rather than being forced to P4 P in LA cafe. So, the question (for me) is still open. How to supplement DIA to expand the pipeline. I'm willing to spend the time. (:
All the best! A.
You might be over-planning Aibolit.
There is a lot of advice here on the board that will show you that the best laid plans will almost certainly go awry because of the nature of Manila and filipinas.
You also need to know that Skogis is a relatively young (tomost guys on ISG), blond-haired, blue-eyed viking with plenty of cash so don't try to emulate him too far unless you fit that mould.
CallSign Papa
12-20-14, 21:21
So, the question (for me) is still open. How to supplement DIA to expand the pipeline. I'm willing to spend the time. (:
All the best! A.Filipina Cupid. You'll need to pay for access, but for me it was a (literal) fucking gold mine.
Uncle Volodya
12-20-14, 22:32
For whatever it's worth, I'd like to produce an interim short report on my preparations for the Makati / Manila trip. I've focused on 3 sources: DIA (because, correct me if I'm wrong, it is the only site that doesn't require the use of credit card / payment. Which is a security breach in my book), FB and Skype.
DIA: After 3-4 days of daily DIA scouting, I've got about 20 ladies that I've exchanged messages with at least once. I've looked only for good looking, young and living in or near Manila.
FB. Some of the girls suggested to connect on FB. I did that. I've also searched their friend's pools to find good looking girls and sent random invites. As a result. I have 7 FB contacts.
Skype. I got 4 Skype contacts from DIA chats.
Assuming I get the DIA pool of 20 to 30 good looking ones in the next month. These 30 would probably translate into 10 Skype contacts or FB contacts that are ready to do cam-to-cam. From these 10, I assume only 1-2 will be really cute (here, unfortunately, I'm not too compromising). So, as it stands now, the chances for a freebie are 50/50.
I have 1-2 months before I land in Manila, so will report before the trip on the final count with the hope that this will help others organize. Any feedback / advice is welcome, of course!
A.Have you tried Badoo? I had some good success on there last trip. And its free. More chicks then I really had time to meet. I ended up staying with one girl my entire time in Makati. But she was worth it.
Make the initial connection on Badoo and then transfer the conversation to Viber, wechat or some other IM service.
Appears wires are crossed. Air Force One is not a night club. It's a KTV. It also has a massage palour. By "high-end girls" do you mean model looks? Do you mean educated and classy? Do you mean monied?
I posted this a long time ago, http://manilaclubbing.com/.Thanks for the replies Hutsori and Skogis. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I mean P4P / KTV / cabaret clubs with model level girls. I've visited a few in Cebu a few years back (Jaguar & Arena), but the clubs I've been to in Burgos / Makati / Ermita and Angeles City seem to be more regular type Filipina girls (no so tall and not model level).
Need recommendations on a place close to NAIA to kill a few hours before my flight which is at 4 AM. Got recommendations on using AirForce One. Any other places the senior posters use?
Thanks!When I was at Air Force One it was quite empty. (its a huge place) I'd rather recommend the Edsa Complex or Burgos street.
Hi Uncle Volodya.
Thanks for your suggestion to try Badoo. I did. Created profile and sent likes to a bunch of people. So far, didn't manage to chat with anyone there. Did you have a specific strategy on Badoo to generate a good yield of prospects and then transfer them to FB or Skype?
If everything fails and there is no other site like DIA, I will try to expand my exploits in Facebook.
Thanks!
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Have you tried Badoo? I had some good success on there last trip. And its free. More chicks then I really had time to meet. I ended up staying with one girl my entire time in Makati. But she was worth it.
Make the initial connection on Badoo and then transfer the conversation to Viber, wechat or some other IM service.
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12-23-14, 21:40
Hi Uncle Volodya.
Thanks for your suggestion to try Badoo. I did. Created profile and sent likes to a bunch of people. So far, didn't manage to chat with anyone there. Did you have a specific strategy on Badoo to generate a good yield of prospects and then transfer them to FB or Skype?
If everything fails and there is no other site like DIA, I will try to expand my exploits in Facebook.
Thanks!
A.I did a Badoo testrun last time in Makati a couple of weeks ago. I found it to work almost to good as the girls were pinging my add. Used a couple of Makati related pics with me in them and I wrote I was in Makati. Which they also could see through my positioning as well. Well, there were a few LB's as well but I did not brush up this profile as much as I previous had.
But as a ground rule i let the girls contact me and not the other way around. Many of the girls were ready to meet within minutes as they were located just a few hundred mts from my position.
I did not meet anyone though as I was fully booked and this was just for some fun when I was on a "phuckin break". If i met a real stunner i would ofcourse change my scheduel but it did not happen..
But many of the girls were very interested in continue biz on FB so it is possible I am sure good luck.
Can anyone recommend a great place to exchange dollars to pesos?
Can anyone recommend a great place to exchange dollars to pesos?Actually at Airport is ok. Greenbelt area money changers are not much better. Best to have smaller bills like 20's and 50's too for taxi and misc items.
PC out.
Can anyone recommend a great place to exchange dollars to pesos?The ATMs give pretty good rates, for most countries I just use the airport ATM after I land.
If you have smart phone, this Skout could be another avenue to meet them.
I found a four here even in Japan that were willing to meetup for a romp.
Rang off the hook when I was in Manila.
It does bother you with ads though.
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