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Member #4566
12-25-14, 10:49
Can anyone recommend a great place to exchange dollars to pesos?In Manila there are lots of money changers. When I am leaving the customs area of the airport (NAIA 1) before I exit, I walk to the far right and go to the money changer there. The rate is always better. I will change maybe 200 US and wait til I hit the streets and find other moneychangers to do larger tranx. I always bring the newest Franklins I can get from my bank. I had problems once with the MC'ers giving me a different rate with older series. Apparently, the older ones had been counterfeited. In Ermita, there must be a hundred moneychangers. They are mainly Muslims and are honorable. They all don't give the same rate. You can shop around. If you have 3,000 US or more, you may be able to bargain a better rate. I do not go to banks or hotels. I am careful not to deal with someone who is offering a rate that is too good to be true. You are just being scammed. Many money changers at tourist destinations do not give good rates. However, the ones in AC seem to be ok. Like driving on a desert highway when you don't know when you will hit the next gas station and you always leave the last gas station with a full tank. So when I hit the road in the PI not knowing where the next money changer will be, I always make sure I have changed bucks into plenty of pesos. I do not rely on atms. It is my way of economizing. Your mileage may vary.

Ikksman
12-29-14, 12:00
Can anyone recommend a great place to exchange dollars to pesos?Although it sounds unusual, I found, over many years, that a consistently great place to exchange dollars for pesos is the money changer in Greenhills (near the Muslim pearl traders).

And, As I have written before, being an HSBC Premier customer gives you money transfers and foreign exchange free of all fees.

Ikksman.

Hutsori
12-29-14, 16:24
If you have smart phone, this Skout could be another avenue to meet them.

I found a four here even in Japan that were willing to meetup for a romp.

Rang off the hook when I was in Manila.

It does bother you with ads though.Thanks for the heads up about this. I just created an account and shall give it a go. Nice that it doesn't require wastebook. Works on a point system where one buys and earns points that are then spent to access info. For example: "Unlock (for 150 points) to get 24-hour access to everybody who has looked at your profile!" The TOS says "no pornographic content" but so far I found there are no keyword filters that detect the commonly used ones for vagina; I wonder how long this profile will last. A quirk to this site is that you can't specify a city you want to browse. By default you can browse those very near you, called "here", and it appears this is a few kilometres. You can change the filter to "city" or "country", but you can't specify the city or the country. This is not a bug; the site owner claims it's a unique feature of the site. The outcome of this restriction: If you're in Manila and you want to browse girls in Cebu, say for an upcoming trip, you have to select "country" and sort through everyone in the Philippines. Ugh. Oh, here's a risky one: people can post comments to your photos and it appears you don't have the ability to approve them before they are visible to all. That isn't cool. It features an "Interested" widget that presents profiles for you consider, but again you can't geographically limit the profiles presented to you precisely.

WestCoast1
12-29-14, 16:39
The ATMs give pretty good rates, for most countries I just use the airport ATM after I land.ATM's are usually the last place you want to get money. The machine will allow a small maximum ($100 USD, $200) takeout, will charge you p200 (about $5) for using their machine, and your bank will hit you with an out-of-network fee (also about $5). On the other hand, a money changer will let you change much larger cash amounts to pesos (no fees). I find the best rates are offered along Adriatico and Mabini streets in the area of Robinson's Mall / Malate.

Member #4387
12-29-14, 17:47
No charge using this card and also my Santander is free of this stupid charge.

WestCoast1
12-29-14, 22:37
No charge using this card and also my Santander is free of this stupid charge.Hold up. I looked about the website: https://www.dinersclubus.com/home/consumer-cards for the Platinum card option, and could not find it. I did find these two high-end DC cards, and their annual fees:

Premier: $95 Annual Fee / $35 Additional Card / Zero Foreign Transaction Fees.

Elite: $300 Annual Fee / $150 Additional Card / Zero Foreign Transaction Fees.

Skogis, do you have a link for the Platinum card? BTW, the two PNC accounts above both offer free lounge access at a number of airports. . . Just sayin'.

In the last year or so, several board members have written on the board (or PM'd with me) about their PNC or HSBC card, which offers no FTF's and no ATM charges (or alternately, if there is a charge, a credit is given back to the cardholder for the amount). But nobody can seem to mention the type of account they have that offers this magic. I find when I visit the website, such items don't exist, or if they do exist, they have either annual fees or high-end account minimum ($100 K USD for HSBC). I walked into a large PNC branch in the midwest and asked an account officer for such a thing, and she could not find it on her computer, or in consultation with another account officer, or on the phone with yet another account officer at HQ. But, but, my ISG buddy said in PM that he has that. "Sir, I don't know about PM or ISG, but we don't have any account like that". In future PM's with such gents, its clear they won't say what type of account they have (for whatever reason). Later I waltzed into a PNC bank in another state, asked the same question, and got the same response.

Yet another board member here recently suggested opening the high-end account temporarily for the ATM benefits (Ikks maybe). Then closing it when your trip is over, but I can't bring myself to be any more immoral than I already am. Are 3-somes immoral? Banging preggers immoral? Banging a pregger in the ass because she thought a pussy-hammering would hurt the baby? But, I digress.

Soooo, the question remains: Is there an account that I can open online with a bank, that will allow me to avoid (or receive a credit for) ATM fees, that has no (or low) annual fee and / or a low minimum balance (say, $1 k)? I'm thinking of the average guy here. If you know of such an account, please state it here, so the gents can look on the website or call the bank to ask details, as Skogis attempted. Not only the name of the bank, but the account name (ie, Santander Select, Diners Club Elite, Capital One Venture Mastercard).

Member #4387
12-29-14, 23:03
I moved the discussion to the General thread as it is more appropiate me think.

Tomasb
12-30-14, 03:49
I will be in Makati arriving in mid afternoon from an island location and looking for party suggestions for NYE. Originally, I had planned on going to 71 Gramercy night club as I am staying in that building but, alas, they are having a private party.

I did a RTFF for last NYE in Makati but no information available. Basically, I would like to attend an upscale nightclub with the possibility of meeting FL's. I do know a young and cute gal who could join me though not sure if I should take her along. The last time we went out in Makati, she took me to a girlie bar in Burgos called Papillon. Lots of talent there though a low class establishment with probable high BF's on NYE. She knows a lot of girls who work there so that it is in the plus column.

CallSign Papa
12-30-14, 05:14
Basically, I would like to attend an upscale nightclub with the possibility of meeting FL's. You can't go far wrong with Raven or Prive in Global City, Republiq or Pangea back towards the airport always worth a visit too.

Kaywhy
12-30-14, 17:00
Hold up. I looked about the website: https://www.dinersclubus.com/home/consumer-cards for the Platinum card option, and could not find it. I did find these two high-end DC cards, and their annual fees:

Premier: $95 Annual Fee / $35 Additional Card / Zero Foreign Transaction Fees.

Elite: $300 Annual Fee / $150 Additional Card / Zero Foreign Transaction Fees.

Skogis, do you have a link for the Platinum card? BTW, the two PNC accounts above both offer free lounge access at a number of airports. . . Just sayin'.

In the last year or so, several board members have written on the board (or PM'd with me) about their PNC or HSBC card, which offers no FTF's and no ATM charges (or alternately, if there is a charge, a credit is given back to the cardholder for the amount). But nobody can seem to mention the type of account they have that offers this magic...I had mentioned the best rates were with ATMs. I have a credit union checking account and I use it worldwide. The charge is 1% and the exchange rate is usually very similar to what I find on Bloomberg for that day. So while I get charged 1%, there is no markup that I am paying other than that. Same with the Cap One credit card that I use. The venture card is a no FX fee card and I also check each charge against the FX rate of that day and again, very close so happy with my choices.

Roll Aides
12-30-14, 18:42
Soooo, the question remains: Is there an account that I can open online with a bank, that will allow me to avoid (or receive a credit for) ATM fees, that has no (or low) annual fee and / or a low minimum balance (say, $1 k)? I'm thinking of the average guy here. If you know of such an account, please state it here, so the gents can look on the website or call the bank to ask details, as Skogis attempted. Not only the name of the bank, but the account name (ie, Santander Select, Diners Club Elite, Capital One Venture Mastercard).

I've had a good experience with Flagstar Direct, never get any charges for using a foreign ATM or using the debit card as a CC here. $50 to open, no monthly fees.

https://www.flagstar.com/personal/banking/checking.html

Hutsori
12-30-14, 18:52
You can't go far wrong with Raven or Prive in Global City, Republiq or Pangea back towards the airport always worth a visit too.In September Republiq at Resorts World closed. The new club near there is Universe; same owners as Republiq.

Hutsori
12-30-14, 18:54
I will be in Makati arriving in mid afternoon from an island location and looking for party suggestions for NYE. Originally, I had planned on going to 71 Gramercy night club as I am staying in that building but, alas, they are having a private party.

I did a RTFF for last NYE in Makati but no information available. Basically, I would like to attend an upscale nightclub with the possibility of meeting FL's. I do know a young and cute gal who could join me though not sure if I should take her along. The last time we went out in Makati, she took me to a girlie bar in Burgos called Papillon. Lots of talent there though a low class establishment with probable high BF's on NYE. She knows a lot of girls who work there so that it is in the plus column.If you're looking for a high-end nightclub check http://manilaclubbing.com/ for the NYE events - you may have to dig a bit and follow links. There is contact info for most of the clubs' respective promoters listed on that site; contact a promoter only if you're serious about reserving a table. NYE is the year's hottest of hot nights and thus you may be SOL. If you're a twitter user this one may be useful, https://twitter.com/MNLNightLife. Links to all the clubs, most recent tweets, and most current contact info. For example on NYE 71 Gramercy is having a ball w/ sit-down dinner and Valkyrie's party is p3000 for 3 drinks.

MadisonGuy
12-30-14, 19:06
I will be in Makati arriving in mid afternoon from an island location and looking for party suggestions for NYE. Originally, I had planned on going to 71 Gramercy night club as I am staying in that building but, alas, they are having a private party.

I did a RTFF for last NYE in Makati but no information available. Basically, I would like to attend an upscale nightclub with the possibility of meeting FL's. I do know a young and cute gal who could join me though not sure if I should take her along. The last time we went out in Makati, she took me to a girlie bar in Burgos called Papillon. Lots of talent there though a low class establishment with probable high BF's on NYE. She knows a lot of girls who work there so that it is in the plus column.The best high end club was beneath New World Hotel last time I was there. You're going to be paying for drinks like a high end club in the US though. I picked up a couple girls the first night I went there, not for money just picking up like a normal bar except a heck of a lot easier. I don't like high end clubs and didn't really go back because of all the other places I wanted to check out. I think I went back one other night and had this hot model all over me but I gave her some money to get a drink for her and her friend and she got super pissed like I was trying to buy her. It was like 3 am and I'm not an all night person so I called it a night instead of trying to save it which I could have with out a doubt but I desired sleep more at that point in time. Good Luck!

Hutsori
12-30-14, 19:32
The best high end club was beneath New World Hotel last time I was there. That's the Palladium.

Member #4387
12-30-14, 23:13
For example on NYE 71 Gramercy is having a ball w/ sit-down dinner and Valkyrie's party is p3000 for 3 drinks.I am invited to a private party Gramercy71 tonight (with mother to my phil baby). Don't know how private it is though.

Tomasb
12-31-14, 11:22
I am scheduled to stay at 71 Gramercy for the next several days and was told there was a private party, though how private I have not been able to determine.

That is because I have been at the Kalibo Airport since 11:15 this morning waiting for my Air Asia flight to arrive from Manila. It is now 6:30 and things are looking grim indeed. The airport is a joke with thousands of travelers sitting in a Finnish sauna conditions waiting for planes to take them to various locations domestic and international. There is virtually no place to sit. I have been waiting for a a seat in the VIP lounge for the past several hours so sitting on floor typing this.

Skogis -- maybe I will make it or perhaps not. So what's going on in Kalibo tonight? Can someone recommend a hotel? Seriously, it is that bad here.


I am invited to a private party Gramercy71 tonight (with mother to my phil baby). Don't know how private it is though.

Ikksman
01-01-15, 00:52
{S N I P} That is because I have been at the Kalibo Airport since 11:15 this morning waiting for my Air Asia flight to arrive from Manila. It is now 6:30 and things are looking grim indeed. The airport is a joke with thousands of travelers sitting in a Finnish sauna conditions waiting for planes to take them to various locations domestic and international. {S N I P} The news agencies report that an Air Asia Zest plane (Flight Z2272 - another A320-200) overshot the end of the runway on Tuesday evening and this closed the airport not just for Tuesday evening, but also for part of yesterday (Wednesday). Naturally, this meant that many flights were cancelled or delayed.

Good luck.

Tomasb
01-01-15, 04:45
Thanks for the info. No one at the airport in Kalibo mentioned the reason for the delays. In fact, it was so chaotic, that with the exception of Philippines Air, there was no public address system utilized to announce flight departure or arrivals or an announcement on computer monitors of said flight information. They had some big screen monitors but they were broadcasting movies and cartoons instead of flight information. Kalibo International Airport -- Probably the only international airport in world with one urinal and bathroom stall in the comfort rooms.

My flight finally departed for Manila around 9 pm and I arrived at Gramercy apartments in Makati about 11 pm. Quickly went upstairs to the night club. The private party only lasted until 11 pm and then the club was open to the general public. Lots of beautiful woman and probably some of the best looking girls in all Manila with many tall beauties. At least in this instance one knew they were not LB's. However, needless to say, it would take some game to get these girls to your apartment. Only spotted perhaps one or two P4 P based on their clothing or the fact they gave me the look. LOL.

I took a turn around Burgos street around 3 am, which was surprisingly quiet. The only place I peeked in was a club called The Bronx, which I had visited before. This has an odd setup as there are several sets of girls who dance in sync for several songs and then are replaced with a different group of girls. They are usually dressed in cheerleader type outfits or shorts but nothing terribly provocative. I think they are available but don't know the BF setup etc. Seems like a mellow place though don't quite understand the business model here. When I entered, a group of girls saw me standing on the steps above the dancefloor and beckoned me to come down. I knew that would be expensive and would end up having to buy lady drinks etc. And given the late hour returned to my apartment exhausted by my airport experience.

Well, as John Steinbeck once said in his classic novel of the same name 'the best laid plans 'of mice and men' often go astray'. My intentions were to arrive in Makati mid afternoon on NYE day and be refreshed and ready for the evening and had planned my day and evening out accordingly. Instead, I ended up arriving in a entirely different frame of mind and physical state of being.

I did contact the taxi driver while waiting in Kalibo (that I met on my last visit to Manila-- see my prior FR). This taxi guy claims he rents out apartments to many non-pros who come to Manila from the provinces to find regular work or go to school. He continually refers to them as dormitories. But by the time I arrived in Manila last night, I thought this option would have been picked clean due to NYE, etc. Of course, I anticipate these dorms are in fact 'brothels' or some sort of casa and the taxi driver only receives a commission. It's a nice line though. However, I may try an inspection later today just to satisfy my curiosity.


The news agencies report that an Air Asia Zest plane (Flight Z2272 - another A320-200) overshot the end of the runway on Tuesday evening and this closed the airport not just for Tuesday evening, but also for part of yesterday (Wednesday). Naturally, this meant that many flights were cancelled or delayed. But by the time I arrived in Manila, I thought

Good luck.

JPF
01-01-15, 06:00
I think Thomasb and I have a similar itinerary. I got into Makati yesterday (Dec. 31) early in the morning after a grueling 24+ hour bus ride to escape the tropical storm in Samar (59 dead so far) after my flight was cancelled by the weather.

Burgos St. Was very quiet on New Year's Eve. Many bars were closed and some had few women in them. I think Bottoms had 3 girls: 2 "dancing" and 1 at a table and maybe one customer. There were only about a dozen women on the street offering massage with extras (and almost half were ladyboys) and none of the "legit" masseuses. There were many poor people (often with infants) begging for money and of course, the pill sellers. This was at 9 pm-11 pm. I think it will be similar tonight as many of the dancers will still be on holiday.

In answer to another of his questions, the bar fines were the usual high amount (3,500 or 3,900 where I asked) but not inflated for NYE.

I decided to forget the budget for the night and grabbed the best I could (at Tickles) and took her to the party at the top of the St. Giles where I am staying to watch the fireworks at midnight. I managed to enact all the cliches: the midnight kiss, creating our own fireworks in my room (to the ongoing sound of firecrackers), and starting the new year with a bang.

Tomasb
01-03-15, 05:37
I am back in Makati after a trip to the island of Boracay. On Thursday, I visited Dimples on Burgos due to advice from a local friend though he was not able to join me. There was at least one stunner there. A 20 year old beauty from Cebu by the name of Jessie. However, I found the BF of $3500 and her initial asking price of $4500 totally unpalatable. After some discussion, she asked what price I would pay and I said $2500. She countered with $3000. However, she also said that she would only stay until 5 am so she could return to Dimples. Why she felt the need to return to a dump like Dimples is beyond me. As it was around midnight, I thought this girl would either bolt around 3 am or be a starfish. She was just throwing off that type of attitude so I passed.

I made my way down to the Bronx. Unlike my visit in the wee hours of New Year's Day morning, I took a seat and immediately spotted a cutie dancing on stage. She had a sexy black cocktail dress on as did all her comrades in this particular dancing sequence. The mama san brought her over and explained the bar fine, which was even more hefty at $3900. I spoke to the girl for a while and liked her attitude and general demeanor. Her stage name is Rusty and she told me that not many guys have been bar fining. Nevertheless, I decided to make an exception with this girl and paid my first bar fine ever. Her cost was $2500 so a fairly pricey evening for PHP.

However, my instincts proved correct. Excellent GFE and a nice girl also. When she changed clothes to accompany me, Rusty could easily had gone to a secretary job in Makati in the morning with her conservative outfit so I did not have to do the walk of shame through the lobby of my apartment.

Last night, I decided to revisit Papillon, which is further down the street on Burgos and almost next to Rouge on the corner. The mama san vaguely remembered me from my prior visit. The first time I was taken there by a girl who was escorting me around for the evening. Mama san asked a very cute and shapely girl to sit with me though I said that I was not prepared to pay a bar fine ($3900) and only wanted company. She wanted me to buy her a drink too in addition to the girl. WTF! She did say something about a discount but I did not press the matter.

I ordered one drink for the girl and then came up with an idea and told her I could give her my PHP cell phone number. Amd she could call later. She liked the idea and I went to the bathroom and wrote down the number on a piece of paper. When I returned, I slipped the number down her bikini bottom. Unfortunately, she did not get off work until 4 am and so I did not expect a call. Around 3:3 am she did call and asked to come to my hotel as I had moved from an apartment earlier that day. When I asked her price, she said it was $8500. I kind of chuckled and said no I can't pay that. Then she asked 'how much can you pay?' Whereupon I threw out $2000 as my offer. She immediately agreed to that amount so pretty funny when you consider the difference between ask and buy! Quite the 'spread' so to speak.

Naturally, she was late but when she called again for directions to my nearby hotel, she wanted to know if she could bring another girl from the club. I agreed somewhat reluctantly as I find threesomes generally favor the girl and are not as enticing as it sounds. However, when she arrived the front desk would not allow her to my room because she did not have an I'd. I went down to the lobby and spoke to her and her girlfriend. My friend without the I'd said she was 19 and her friend said she had an I'd and was 20. The front desk was adamant about not allowing entry, which I was fine with but wondered how this girl could be hired at the club and not have an I'd with her. After all, the whole point of these clubs are for bar fines and are hotels that lax with their security to permit potential [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls to enter their hotels?

So the other girl who was also hot said she could come to my room instead, however, the kicker was she would only do it if she could invite a different friend to join us from the club. I declined her offer particularly when I found out she would stay only one hour. By now it was close to 5 am. Also, I would end up with two girls in my room I had never had a conversation with and had no idea who the other girl was.

I did send an email to girl number one today and invited her over with an I'd but I am developing strong suspicions she is not 19 as she claims. This would mean the club hires [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) girls so in this event, I suggest ISG members be careful with girls from these clubs and do not take it for granted they are over 18.

Wander Luster
01-03-15, 08:06
Thank you for the advice, RK. Regardless of the mold that I fit. I once under-planned and, as a result, found myself stranded with one date only (that was successful). That was because I was told that finding freebies on the spot in Manila is a piece of cake. I didn't find it to be so in the past. Sadly, my tastes are narrow and, when P4 P is involved, expensive, as I prefer young slim beauty. So, few trips to the mall didn't produce a single contact with the good looking girls for the reason that I didn't see any.

Perhaps, if I had more than 3-4 days on the ground, I would have figured things out. But. I never do have more than 4 days. So, I prefer to overplan and get some GF in Manila (something I greatly like about this place), rather than being forced to P4 P in LA cafe. So, the question (for me) is still open. How to supplement DIA to expand the pipeline. I'm willing to spend the time. (:

All the best! A.There's a lot of talk about DIA. But, PH cupid is more popular. AND, you pay, so that screens out the guys that are serious and not cheap-poor.

JPF
01-03-15, 08:08
I was informed that Stardust (just off Burgos) raised their barfine from 1900 to 2500 at the beginning of 2015.

JPF
01-04-15, 09:35
If you are looking for an inexpensive, legit massage and are staying near the Greenbelt / Gorietta malls I recommend the Touch of Hands Spa. 400 p for an hour and it was just as good as the 2200 p massage in the New World Hotel Spa (which I didn't have to pay for).

It is behind Raffles (I. E. Away from the malls) across Arnaiz Ave. On the second floor (first to Europeans) of an office building. A short walk from the New World and the Fairmont and just a little further from the Dusit Thani.

Muevelo
01-04-15, 09:44
There's a lot of talk about DIA. But, PH cupid is more popular. AND, you pay, so that screens out the guys that are serious and not cheap-poor.I used Hi5 or called Tagged (in PI) to find my Filipinas while there; I had a girl or two every day for 9 days. I paid for their taxi but that was all I paid for. They were willing to spend the night if I asked them to too.

I was at Intercontinental while there. Most of the girls that you can find on there can be your single mom, some are middle 20's that have some successful jobs / careers too.

If you want to go for P4P than I would recommend Havana Cafe in Greenbelt 5. The finest looking girls I have ever seen. I took one for 5 days and made her bleed every day because she was so small. Helped her turn 21 (I was 36) while I was there. But paid about $100/ day for 4 days, and all associated meals / drinks. She was expensive but so worth the price to have a small 20/21 yo girl, small perky tits, and would let me relax with her 4-5 times per day. Paid the cleaning dude $50 at the end of my stay to ensure he stayed quiet (was business trip).

Kaywhy
01-04-15, 11:37
If you are looking for an inexpensive, legit massage and are staying near the Greenbelt / Gorietta malls I recommend the Touch of Hands Spa. 400 p for an hour and it was just as good as the 2200 p massage in the New World Hotel Spa (which I didn't have to pay for).

It is behind Raffles (I. E. Away from the malls) across Arnaiz Ave. On the second floor (first to Europeans) of an office building. A short walk from the New World and the Fairmont and just a little further from the Dusit Thani.I've tried twice and was declined twice so it is legit. The place on the corner of Arnaiz and Armasollo, was it Zen Spa, seems to have also gone legit for some time. If you want a no miss experience, just go to sulit.com and look for the p600-700 massages, where no tip is expected.

Rick Rock
01-05-15, 14:24
Soooo, the question remains: Is there an account that I can open online with a bank, that will allow me to avoid (or receive a credit for) ATM fees, that has no (or low) annual fee and / or a low minimum balance (say, $1 k)? I'm thinking of the average guy here. If you know of such an account, please state it here, so the gents can look on the website or call the bank to ask details, as Skogis attempted. Not only the name of the bank, but the account name (ie, Santander Select, Diners Club Elite, Capital One Venture Mastercard).High yield investor checking account at Charles Schwab. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.

Capital One 360 checking. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.

WestCoast1
01-05-15, 15:29
High yield investor checking account at Charles Schwab. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.

Capital One 360 checking. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.Rick! Nice big fella!

Kaywhy
01-05-15, 16:00
High yield investor checking account at Charles Schwab. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.

Capital One 360 checking. No minimum balance, no annual fees. They reimburse all ATM fees no matter where in the world.Thanks Rick, but there are two ways FIs make money. The fee and the rate. Even if the fee is free, you need to check the rate. That's why you need to better understand how your FI makes its money, and that impacts whether you pay in HKD or USD, if you are in HK for instance.

Sean EZ
01-06-15, 00:48
I went to Havana Cafe twice last few days didn't see any action. Was there around 7-8 PM. Was this too early? BTW LA Cafe has zero do-able girls, I really expected better quality. So far EDSA was best for me in terms of selection but take your time, and get there early, maybe one girl out of 20 is worth considering. I'm yet to try higher end places (la la land, AEN).

Wicked Roger
01-06-15, 03:52
I went to Havana Cafe twice last few days didn't see any action. Was there around 7-8 PM. Was this too early? BTW LA Cafe has zero do-able girls, I really expected better quality. So far EDSA was best for me in terms of selection but take your time, and get there early, maybe one girl out of 20 is worth considering. I'm yet to try higher end places (la la land, AEN).For Havana I always go there around 9 pm or slightly later. Earlier is very slim pickings. MCB / LAC has always had poor quality IMHO but some will disagree. Always preferred Havana and had some very nice ones from there in the past.

Lots FRs of the upscale clubs and availability but then prices are likely to rise as well.

Rick Rock
01-06-15, 09:50
Thanks Rick, but there are two ways FIs make money. The fee and the rate. Even if the fee is free, you need to check the rate. That's why you need to better understand how your FI makes its money, and that impacts whether you pay in HKD or USD, if you are in HK for instance.In my experience, my CS account beat the local exchange rates I found in South Korea, Japan, Thailand and the Philippines. Don't know about Cap One.

With some ATM machines charging up to $8 and then banks charging another $5 (or even 1%) the rate would have to be totally skewed for a no-fee account not to be better, especially when you're making multiple runs to the machine with a $500 withdraw limit. I've even run into some $200 withdraw machines before that coincidentally charged huge fees.

Key Master
01-09-15, 01:48
I went to Havana Cafe twice last few days didn't see any action. Was there around 7-8 PM. Was this too early? BTW LA Cafe has zero do-able girls, I really expected better quality. So far EDSA was best for me in terms of selection but take your time, and get there early, maybe one girl out of 20 is worth considering. I'm yet to try higher end places (la la land, AEN).That's too early for Havana. I think 10 pm is the earliest, I'd go. I think both LA Cafe and Havana are not for sure things that you'd get a looker. I consider both hit and miss now and go in with an attitude that if I find someone great, if not, that's ok. I don't know what time you went to LA Cafe but I normally wouldn't go there until about 9 pm until late.

Cool Traveler
01-16-15, 22:21
I went to Havana Cafe twice last few days didn't see any action. Was there around 7-8 PM. Was this too early? BTW LA Cafe has zero do-able girls, I really expected better quality. So far EDSA was best for me in terms of selection but take your time, and get there early, maybe one girl out of 20 is worth considering. I'm yet to try higher end places (la la land, AEN).7 to 8 PM is way too early. Not really going to find anything. On top of that, you run the risk of talking to regular people. Most of the pro's come in after 9 PM, peaking at about 11 PM. By 11 PM, even the surrounding coffee shops gets crowded. I always found, the later I go, the better deal I get, because most who had been there, want to get out of there.

SxRay
01-17-15, 01:14
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Tomasb
01-18-15, 04:16
This is my last weekend in PHP before moving on to Bangkok early this week. I am staying at a hotel near to Burgos so I can easily access the various bars in this neighborhood. One of my favorites has been Rogues, which is located upstairs at the corner of Makati and P. Burgos though have not taken any girls from here until last night. It has the best BF price on Burgos of $1600 plus your 'tip' to, the girl. At least, this is what the MamaSan calls it at Rogue. I happen to think the girls in here are stellar plus it has a more relaxed atmosphere than the other clubs. The Mamsan never pesters you to buy drinks, which are reasonably priced as it is and the girls are easy to deal with.

I went in here last night and Friday night with the specific objective of finding a particular girl I had noticed a few weeks earlier. The MamaSan remembered me and my interest in this girl and said she was not working on my Friday visit. On my Saturday visit, the girl was still not there and Mamasan did not know where she might be. She told me to look at a few other girls and I settled in on a young attractive looking girl dancing by herself on a side stage. After she sat down, I beckoned for her to come over and offered her a drink. She told me that this was her second night at the bar and her two cousins worked here as well. She said she was student at a university, from Mindinadao, and lived with her mother somewhere in Manila but had to be home by 3 am per her mother's curfew. Her mother did not know she was dancing at a club though her cousins had been working at Rogue's for quite some time.

I sort of liked the idea of taking someone new from the club and to sweeten the pot, she (Nicole) said she had never been bar fined. I quickly decided to offer her 2000 p if she stayed with me until 3 am. I also mentioned that I would like to take her to a nice upscale club nearby (in between sessions). She readily agreed and the MamaSan came over to confirm she would leave me at 3 am to be sure of no misunderstanding later. I did think that I was taking a bit of a chance with someone who claimed to be inexperienced but the "non pro" factor also weighed heavily in my decision.

So took her back to the hotel. She was acting a little strange when I first started removing her clothes (pushing my hand away a few times, showing some reluctance to disrobe etc) and later when we were having sex started with the dreaded question 'have you come yet' "why you not come" etc. The answer was I was enjoying myself and was not quite ready. But I found this line of questioning a little disturbing as it is something you might hear from a full fledged pro.

The sex was nothing great except she did not seem to understand the word "blow job" and expressed concern I would come in her mouth. She also wanted me covered with a condom during the BJ, which I nixed. Anyway, I took her to the night club for a few hours and we returned to the room for a finale, or so I thought. Instead, she would not let me touch her and said lets sleep for a while. Every time, I attempted to start up her engines, she pushed my hands away. This was the sort of GFE I was not looking for! I finally realized that all efforts were futile. She also constantly kept checking her watch presumably waiting til 3 am so she could leave. At 3 am exactly, she got up from the bed. Since I could not even get her to remove her cocktail dress, she did not need to dress.

I was pissed so pulled out $1000 p and gave it to her. Whereupon, she started complaining about the amount and said you owe me $2000 p. I promptly retorted that it was not good service and that's all she was getting. For a few minutes, we had a Mexican standoff. Finally, I said lets go to the club and talk to MamaSan about this. She was going to leave the "tip" on the table but I insisted she take the money and she put it in her purse. At the front desk, she asked for my room number before reclaiming her I'd and I followed her out the door. However, I had no intention of going to the club as I could only imagine the potential wrath I might receive from her cousins, the other girls, etc. And was not sure about the response from MamaSan either.

A few steps out the hotel door, she walked quickly ahead of me and I did a quick 360 and re-entered the hotel lobby instructing the front desk not to allow this girl re-entry to my room. I turned around to see Nicole standing in front of the door looking none too pleased.

Even though I was not specific with the MamaSan about the amount of times I expected to have sex with the girl, I did not think it was necessary to get into specifics. Is having sex two times a reasonable assumption on a five hour date for $2000 p (remember BF was 1600 p)? I do have half a mind to go back and complain to Mamasan about the service but not sure if Nicole returned to the club or not, or if this would be a wise course of action or to just let it go. The Hotel has not indicated anyone has tried to contact me from the club either.

Econo Tech
01-18-15, 15:01
A few steps out the hotel door, she walked quickly ahead of me and I did a quick 360 and re-entered the hotel lobby instructing the front desk not to allow this girl re-entry to my room. I turned around to see Nicole standing in front of the door looking none too pleased...I am sure you meant 180 degree. But.

Anyway P Burgos has always expected a tip on top of bar fine, and tips are 3 k or more. (at least for dodgy me.).

I thought you are a pro in P Burgos.

D Cups
01-18-15, 16:17
you owe me $2000 p. I promptly retorted that it was not good service and that's all she was getting. .Well two shots for 2 K is quite a bargain in that area. So, ya, pay a little more and drink pineapple juice and tell her your cum tastes like it.

Sam 14
01-18-15, 17:52
Phi is a dangerous place. I understand the feeling of getting burned. But theoretically, she didn't owe you anything, not even one shag. And she held up her end of the deal by staying. You promised her 2 k, so you're the one that's wrong, even though you wasted over 4 k and probably wished you had your money and your precious sperm back. She could have called the police and said you forced her, or some other bullshit. I know a guy who spent 4 days in the can, out on bail, and got wrapped up in a long ongoing case because he called someone an idiot. They brought him up on slander, which did happen, and something else that didn't happen.

I guess in hindsight, the best thing would have been to take her back the moment she started puttin up fight about disrobing. Smile, take her by the hand, and say Sweetheart. . This ain't going so good. Do you get house credit for another BF? Curious as to what others have to say.

LuvAsianTang
01-18-15, 18:00
Phi is a dangerous place. I understand the feeling of getting burned. But theoretically, she didn't owe you anything, not even one shag. And she held up her end of the deal by staying. You promised her 2k, so you're the one that's wrong, even though you wasted over 4k and probably wished you had your money and your precious sperm back. She could have called the police and said you forced her, or some other bullshit. I know a guy who spent 4 days in the can, out on bail, and got wrapped up in a long ongoing case because he called someone an idiot. They brought him up on slander and something else.

I guess in hindsight, the best thing would have been to take her back the moment she started puttin up fight about disrobing. Smile, take her by the hand, and say Sweetheart. .This ain't going so good. Do you get house credit for another BF? Curious as to what others have to say.There are some gray areas in the negotiations that should have been cleared up before he barfined the girl. First of all it's always best to ask the girl about her willingness to do blowjobs, amount of pops, etc. Before you even ask for the barfine. Then you should always make sure it's clear with the girl in front of the mamasan. Iv'e had them agree to all my requests at first then when asked by mama if they are ok with them, they changed their mind. Many of the girls that work in bars have a very rudimentary understanding of english it being their second language and all.

Also bare in mind that she went back to the bar and talked you down to all the girls and now you will be known as the kuripot man who shorted her. She's never going to tell them the real reason you shorted her so you may not be so popular in that bar, or any bar where the girl will work in the future if she remembers you.

And all this bad ju ju for what hmmmmm 12.50 usd?

I've had some luck in renegotiating after things go sour by offering her an early out for less money. Most will take the money and leave, but then it becomes her decision and not solely yours. Then I escort them back to the bar and let mama know why she is coming back early, so it's more of a clean break. Sometimes it's just better to eat the 12.50 usd and keep it simple.

Just my 20 pesos, happy pooning, LAT.

Pantot
01-18-15, 18:31
Even though I was not specific with the MamaSan about the amount of times I expected to have sex with the girl, I did not think it was necessary to get into specifics. Is having sex two times a reasonable assumption on a five hour date for $2000 p (remember BF was 1600 p)? I do have half a mind to go back and complain to Mamasan about the service but not sure if Nicole returned to the club or not, or if this would be a wise course of action or to just let it go. The Hotel has not indicated anyone has tried to contact me from the club either.I agree with Sam and LAT as well although my approach is the opposite of his.

If I were you I would definitely let it go and not return to that bar any time soon.

You already paid the barfine of 1600 p and your requests were that she stay until 3 am and your promise was to take her clubbing. You both kept your promises. You offered up front a promise of a 2000 p tip. These days there is realistically really only an implied consent of one round of sex from the girl, that's what the barfine gives you. Usually you get more depending on your rapport with the girl but not always.

You picked a girl who is still in the 'dating' phase. In order to get more out of her she really has to be in to you as much as you are into her. If she's asking you to basically hurry up and cum that's a gigantic red flag that's she's not even enjoying it. For me that would have been enough to end the whole episode once I popped and ask her to leave as soon as I did cum.

Your mistake, IMO was the offering in advance of a 2000 p tip. Why did you feel obligated to do that so 'quickly' as you say? Were you getting cold vibes from the girl and offered the promise to get her to warm up or even to go with you?

I go for exactly that type you went for every time. New to the bar or there less than 2 months. Personally I have never discussed the tip in advance or specified the sex acts I would want or quantity etc. Best case scenario, I'm hoping for 3 to 5 pops with plenty of oral before and after, no wraps my sterile milk pumped into her uterus and stomach. But if I ask that in advance I would likely scare the shit out of her so I don't even go there. The girl has to naturally warm up to me if I am going to want to take her. After making sure she isn't on the rag, I simply ask her if she will go with me. If yes then if she will like to stay for breakfast. I get what I'm looking for at least half the time. The rest are split between the girl wanting to leave early or me asking her to go if we aren't clicking sex or intimacy wise. My approach isn't as foolproof like LAT's but for me its more fun in the game of how far can I get the girl to go.

Best rule of thumb is if it starts going downhill anytime after the first pop (or during in your case), cut your losses and say I'm really tired and politely ask her to leave. Its rare that it gets better. For her its a date that isn't going well. She knows she has to have sex and does it reluctantly, so you know round 2 will be more of a struggle. What turns me on is getting the girl off so if that's not happening, I just end it no hard feelings but the tip would be affected. Problem was you fixed that in advance based on only a time clock.

IMO you promised her 2000 p and owed her that because she had sex and stayed till 3.

Tomasb
01-18-15, 22:39
I would not pay her the other 1000 pesos. That is $22, more or less, not $12.50 as you calculates. Regardless, I considered it the principle of the matter. She spoke good English though I agree a lot of girls only pretend they speak English. She was pretending she was into me but her mood changed when I cut short the night club visit as it was only intended to be a diversion from the main reason for the bar fine. Basically, she started to act like a real girl friend denying me sex because I wanted to return to the hotel to screw.

I am leaving Makati for Thailand on Tuesday so will not be returning anytime in near future so don't really care what the other girls might think.

To the other posters comment, I am not a pro regarding P.Burgos and have only bar fined one other time. But it was another club. In this case, I got everything I wanted. The only negative was she started texting me afterwards for more money because her child was ill, or so she said. She is still texting me even though it was three weeks ago. I could call her again and avoid a BF and might consider it after my most recent experience.


There are some gray areas in the negotiations that should have been cleared up before he barfined the girl. First of all it's always best to ask the girl about her willingness to do blowjobs, amount of pops, etc. Before you even ask for the barfine. Then you should always make sure it's clear with the girl in front of the mamasan. Iv'e had them agree to all my requests at first then when asked by mama if they are ok with them, they changed their mind. Many of the girls that work in bars have a very rudimentary understanding of english it being their second language and all.

Also bare in mind that she went back to the bar and talked you down to all the girls and now you will be known as the kuripot man who shorted her. She's never going to tell them the real reason you shorted her so you may not be so popular in that bar, or any bar where the girl will work in the future if she remembers you.

And all this bad ju ju for what hmmmmm 12.50 usd?

I've had some luck in renegotiating after things go sour by offering her an early out for less money. Most will take the money and leave, but then it becomes her decision and not solely yours. Then I escort them back to the bar and let mama know why she is coming back early, so it's more of a clean break. Sometimes it's just better to eat the 12.50 usd and keep it simple.

Just my 20 pesos, happy pooning, LAT.

Pip Jaeger
01-18-15, 23:26
Your mistake, IMO was the offering in advance of a 2000 p tip. Why did you feel obligated to do that so 'quickly' as you say? Burgos bars are not "all in" like AC, you pay the bar a fee and you donate to the girl separately.

Tomasb
01-19-15, 00:00
Absolutely, a girl on Burgos is not leaving with you with some vague suggestion of a tip. Her fee needs to be clarified beforehand. Also, for the record the girl receives a % of the BF. My mistake was not being completely specific in this instance as to my expectations as I was lulled to sleep by my first experience with a bar fine at The Bronx a few weeks earlier. Lesson learned.

For what's it worth, I have been living and traveling in SA for the past decade. This is my first experience with having to pay a BF. I am not certain this BF concept exists in South America though perhaps in Brazil where I have spent little time. What makes it confusing is that different areas of this country (and the girls) have different policies as Pip notes regarding Angeles.


Burgos bars are not "all in" like AC, you pay the bar a fee and you donate to the girl separately.

Jp Slicky
01-20-15, 11:28
Well two shots for 2 K is quite a bargain in that area. So, ya, pay a little more and drink pineapple juice and tell her your cum tastes like it.The Cups, I bet I know how you make your cum LOL.

Hope you are well.

Terwagne
01-21-15, 10:55
At 7. 30 pm Bottoms was already busy with 20 girls and 10 customers. Sedate atmosphere though. A small girl was happily dancing on stage and I called her. Maxine.

Great curves, OK face, 20 years old. One hour later in my hotel she was cuddly, very GFE, not too shy, not wild but participating well, very good kisser. Nice firm body. A very enjoyable time. She told me she has been working 3 months at Bottoms and is not very popular. Going out maybe 2-3 times a week and often not at all.

She only gets 50 pesos from the 375 pesos ladies drink and has a hard time paying the rent.

Recommended.

LuvAsianTang
01-23-15, 18:22
At 7. 30 pm Bottoms was already busy with 20 girls and 10 customers. Sedate atmosphere though. A small girl was happily dancing on stage and I called her. Maxine.

Great curves, OK face, 20 years old. One hour later in my hotel she was cuddly, very GFE, not too shy, not wild but participating well, very good kisser. Nice firm body. A very enjoyable time. She told me she has been working 3 months at Bottoms and is not very popular. Going out maybe 2-3 times a week and often not at all.

She only gets 50 pesos from the 375 pesos ladies drink and has a hard time paying the rent.

Recommended.Usually when a meet a girl like that who doesn't get bar fined, I exchange numbers. If she doesn't get bar fined then she can text me and if I answer she can come over and make some money. It's a lot cheaper than paying the bar fine and tip so I give her a bigger tip and it ends up being about half of the amount it would cost at the bar. Some will do it and some won't, she sounds like she may be one who does.

Happy pooning, LAT.

James02
01-28-15, 23:35
I am back in Makati after a trip to the island of Boracay. On Thursday, I visited Dimples on Burgos due to advice from a local friend though he was not able to join me. There was at least one stunner there. A 20 year old beauty from Cebu by the name of Jessie. However, I found the BF of $3500 and her initial asking price of $4500 totally unpalatable. After some discussion, she asked what price I would pay and I said $2500. She countered with $3000. However, she also said that she would only stay until 5 am so she could return to Dimples. Why she felt the need to return to a dump like Dimples is beyond me. As it was around midnight, I thought this girl would either bolt around 3 am or be a starfish. She was just throwing off that type of attitude so I passed.

I made my way down to the Bronx. Unlike my visit in the wee hours of New Year's Day morning, I took a seat and immediately spotted a cutie dancing on stage. She had a sexy black cocktail dress on as did all her comrades in this particular dancing sequence. The mama san brought her over and explained the bar fine, which was even more hefty at $3900. I spoke to the girl for a while and liked her attitude and general demeanor. Her stage name is Rusty and she told me that not many guys have been bar fining. Nevertheless, I decided to make an exception with this girl and paid my first bar fine ever. Her cost was $2500 so a fairly pricey evening for PHP...Whats the name of the club!

Who the hell is going to charge $2000- $4000 for short time!

Is that US dollars?

Member #4566
01-28-15, 23:57
Even though I was not specific with the MamaSan about the amount of times I expected to have sex with the girl, I did not think it was necessary to get into specifics. Is having sex two times a reasonable assumption on a five hour date for $2000 p (remember BF was 1600 p)? I do have half a mind to go back and complain to Mamasan about the service but not sure if Nicole returned to the club or not, or if this would be a wise course of action or to just let it go. The Hotel has not indicated anyone has tried to contact me from the club either.I do not think that you need such specificity before you barfine. The girl still has to fulfill her end of the bargain which is impliedly to be a willing sexual partner. You did right by not giving her the full amount. It will be good for her as well so that next time she is barfined she will understand that she needs to provide complete service and not do it begrudgingly.

Pip Jaeger
01-29-15, 00:45
I do not think that you need such specificity before you barfine. The girl still has to fulfill her end of the bargain which is impliedly to be a willing sexual partner. You did right by not giving her the full amount. It will be good for her as well so that next time she is barfined she will understand that she needs to provide complete service and not do it begrudgingly.Implied is one pop, not two. If you want that, then it needs to be clarified before leaving the bar. Had you RTFF (LOL), you would have seen that the girl did fulfill her end of the deal; namely provided full service and stayed until the stipulated hour. Whether the girl is good in bed or not is a roll of the dice. The OP may not have gotten a PSE, but it sounds like he still had a good time. Keep in mind that the girl claimed to be new. If true, then she did not have much experience in being barfined and only acted in a manner as told to her by other girls plus the mamasan. And she may not have had much experience with foreigners as well.

D Cups
01-29-15, 02:35
Implied is one pop, not two. If you want that, then it needs to be clarified before leaving the bar. Had you RTFF (LOL), you would have seen that the girl did fulfill her end of the deal; namely provided full service and stayed until the stipulated hour. Whether the girl is good in bed or not is a roll of the dice. The OP may not have gotten a PSE, but it sounds like he still had a good time. Keep in mind that the girl claimed to be new. If true, then she did not have much experience in being barfined and only acted in a manner as told to her by other girls plus the mamasan. And she may not have had much experience with foreigners as well.Yes, and if they need training, I would be happy to be the trainer. Pro boner haha.

Tomasb
01-29-15, 04:20
Of course, I meant pesos; not dollars. The name of the clubs are noted in the post in both instances.


Whats the name of the club!

Who the hell is going to charge $2000- $4000 for short time!

Is that US dollars?

Econo Tech
01-30-15, 02:11
I do not think that you need such specificity before you barfine. The girl still has to fulfill her end of the bargain which is impliedly to be a willing sexual partner. You did right by not giving her the full amount. It will be good for her as well so that next time she is barfined she will understand that she needs to provide complete service and not do it begrudgingly.Oh. Love you legal speak, but I wonder if that will stand up an entrapment or a revenge strike.

You think the bar girls learn? You haven't seen enough bar girls I guess. Just my 2 cents.

Member #4566
01-31-15, 04:11
I quickly decided to offer her 2000 p if she stayed with me until 3 am. I also mentioned that I would like to take her to a nice upscale club nearby (in between sessions). Later when we were having sex she started with the dreaded question 'have you come yet' "why you not come" etc.
The sex was nothing great.
I took her to the night club for a few hours and we returned to the room for a finale, or so I thought. Instead, she would not let me touch her and said lets sleep for a while. Every time, I attempted to start up her engines, she pushed my hands away. At 3 am exactly, she got up from the bed. Since I could not even get her to remove her cocktail dress, she did not need to dress.
I was pissed so pulled out $1000 p and gave it to her, We had a Mexican standoff. This girl was awful. She returns to the hotel room and then just sits around fully clothed, unresponsive, and marking time until she gets paid. You seemed to indicate that she was told that going to the club would be a mere interlude between sessions. You are purchasing a service. It's your money. You need to be satisfied. You are the boss. We are talking about whoring. Your expectations were not exceptional. You do not need to pay for her learning curve. You were being completely reasonable in not paying her the full amount. She should be paying you for ruining your evening.

When I am in that type of a situation, my very last tactic is to remind the girl that she may not get the full amount if she does not become more cooperative. At least that way she won't be shocked when you pay less than the full amount.

Reminds me of an anecdote. Maybe 20 years ago, I was in Puerto Princessa and I was just getting my sea legs in this hobby, at that time having barfined only a couple of hundred girls. I took some SYT out of a bar and took her to my hotel, the Princessa Inn. She was completely unresponsive. She just lay down on the bed and would not do anything except watch a Filipino soap. Perhaps a less experienced person would have taken her back to the bar for a refund. (I have done that before.) I slowly starting touching her and massaging her; getting closer to her erogenous zones. It was slow going. Bit by bit I was able to remove pieces of clothing. I tickled my way into her pussy. After about two hours, I was able to enter her. Then I could not shut her down. We fucked non-stop coming up occasionally for air. It was truly a night for the ages. Dear Christine, where are you now?

The lesson I took away from this was that these girls are all different and some allowances should be made to treat them on their own terms. If a guy is a phallic narcissist, he may have problems getting a lot of GFE from these girls.

PeeMan
02-01-15, 05:48
The girls are all different and some allowances should be made to treat them on their own terms. If a guy is a phallic narcissist, he may have problems getting a lot of GFE from these girls.Well done! The trouble is many times we find a gal already very late into the night and hence impatient to sleep. I am not a night owl and I expect an "instant on" when I come back to my room with a gal just around midnight and desperate to get some sleep by 2 am after two rounds atleast. Sadly I have been unlucky to find a gal of my choice at any sane hour of the evening almost 50% of the time I have been mongering.

P.

James02
02-08-15, 03:02
Of course, I meant pesos; not dollars. The name of the clubs are noted in the post in both instances.Tomas,

I tried sending you a PM but I got this message.

Tomasb has exceeded their stored private messages quota.

And cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

Butter69
02-08-15, 23:34
My first trip to the Philippines. Before coming I made sure to read as many pages as I could from this forum. Thanks to everyone for all of their contributions.

My trip was a few weeks ago in Jan. I had decided to come here after video chatting to a girl online for several months. She's very pretty and tiny. I will call her miss X for this report. I arrived at NAIA terminal 1 around the afternoon. Unfortunately my suitcase didn't arrive. Malaysia airlines said it was on the next flight here which will be in 1 hour. I decided to use that time to change money in the meantime and also bought a sim card with 500 p load. I was staying at the Best Western Oxford Suites hotel in Makati so I booked a pickup from the hotel for 1228 p. There is a hotel lounge outside the airport where they tell you to wait. It was all very organised. My suitcase arrived as planned on the next flight. The terminal is currently being modernised / redecorated so it's a bit of a mess at the moment.

So off we went in the taxi to the hotel. The journey took around 1 hour. My hotel is on P Burgos St. Which is also a red light area. Ideal for mongers. Check in was quick from a cute girl. After sleeping for a few hours I got ready and went downstairs to eat at the hotel restaurant. I got a table by the window so I can see what's going on in Burgos St while I eat. I could see several girls trying to get the attention of men as they walked past.

Then after dinner I started walking outside. Burgos St has a few hotels, restaurants but mainly the street is full of Go-Go bars. The doormen are very friendly and were always asking me to take a look inside. Once inside there was no pressure to ever stay by anyone. The girls were just smiling trying to get my attention. Very relaxed. On the street the girls approaching me were always asking me if I wanted a massage. They all offered a massage at my room for 500 p. Some were very cute. There are also ladyboys trying to offer the same services too. I decided to just carry on walking and went onto Makati Ave. On this street too I also saw girls offering a massage. I went into 3 go-go bars that night to have a drink. Each bar didn't have many customers inside so there would always be a group of girls trying to sit next to me. I would just pick 1 girl that I liked to drink with. They were always very quick to start massaging my cock and then start asking if I wanted more at my hotel or maybe a BJ in a VIP room. The cost would have been around 5 lady drinks to have some fun in a private room plus then also a 1000 p tip to the girl. Lady drinks were around 350 p.

The best time I had was in a go-go called High Heels. Again I was surrounded by girls who all wanted to sit with me and have a drink. I chose 2 girls and they were both offering a BJ. All I had to pay would be 1000 p each plus a tip 100 p to another girl to help block the view of what we were up to from other customers. I had never had a double BJ before, and especially never in a public place. I thought to myself I had to do this. These lovely girls were very playful and forward. I just couldn't say no. They were taking it in turns to suck me off. It looked so normal to the other girls who knew what was going on. I didn't let them make me cum. I didn't want a mess on my jeans but I had a great time.

I then walked back to my hotel to get more rest ready for my meeting with miss X tomorrow.

Mr Hawaii
02-09-15, 06:44
Can you tell me (us) how you liked the hotel? I stayed there about 6 months ago and the rooms were musty / smelling moldy. The location is great. I am going back next month and have not completely ruled out the hotel, but what did you think? Thanks.

Buko Max
02-09-15, 08:18
My first trip to the Philippines. Before coming I made sure to read as many pages as I could from this forum. Thanks to everyone for all of their contributions.

I then walked back to my hotel to get more rest ready for my meeting with miss X tomorrow.Nice report! It was a good thing you read ahead before your trip! Oxford Suites car service is exorbitant at 1228 php when the cost of your journey should be in the neighborhood of 500 php via yellow cab. Looking forward to part 2!

Wicked Roger
02-09-15, 16:12
Can you tell me (us) how you liked the hotel? I stayed there about 6 months ago and the rooms were musty / smelling moldy. The location is great. I am going back next month and have not completely ruled out the hotel, but what did you think? Thanks.Exactly my impression MH. Old and tired also damp.

I stay around the corner in the St Giles and may try the new City Garden hotel across the road (diagonally) from the St Giles, but never again the Oxford. And the walk does you good from a hotel 100 metres away LOL.

Butter69
02-09-15, 23:45
Exactly my impression MH. Old and tired also damp.

I stay around the corner in the St Giles and may try the new City Garden hotel across the road (diagonally) from the St Giles, but never again the Oxford. And the walk does you good from a hotel 100 metres away LOL.Yes, there was a smell like you described. I stayed for 8 nights and on 3 occasions I had also experienced that the hot water would cut out. I would then have to turn off the tap, leave for 1 minute, and then turn on again. I am going to write more in the hotel thread about the hotel review. I booked using Expedia, which offered a good discount and breakfast offer.

Butter69
02-09-15, 23:48
Nice report! It was a good thing you read ahead before your trip! Oxford Suites car service is exorbitant at 1228 php when the cost of your journey should be in the neighborhood of 500 php via yellow cab. Looking forward to part 2!I decided to let the Hotel pick me up using their taxi service because in previous reports people have said that there's been a very long queue waiting for a taxi. If I am correct then I believe that the taxi area is on the right side when you exit the airport and I didn't see many cars at all but I did see customers waiting around.

Butter69
02-10-15, 00:41
So next day I woke up in time for breakfast. I texted miss X who replied to say we will meet at Greenbelt 3 at 4 pm. So I got a taxi over to that area. Previous reports have mentioned that not all taxi drivers use a meter and so I asked about that before getting in. The guy said yes. At the airport I made sure to get lots of 50 and 20 notes so I can always use smaller notes to pay for taxis. I arrived at the taxi drop off point and gave her a call. She was already there. Standing 5 feet tall in heels with her long straight black hair. She was wearing a dress which was tight enough to show her lovely figure and short enough to show her sexy legs. I couldn't believe my luck. We instantly hugged and smiled and everything felt so natural like we'the met several times before. She said lets go upstairs (up the escalator) where there are choices of food and drink / places to sit. We held hands all the way there. It felt so good. Also her dress was a thin material so having my hand across her waist, I could always feel her body.

The next few hours were spent chatting over a coffee, then dinner and just walking around in general and sitting on the bench talking. Originally her plan was to leave at 10 as she'the have to be getting 2 jeepneys home. I offered to pay her taxi home if she would like to stay longer. (I wanted to try and make her feel happy with me and to try and change her mind about going at 10 to try and spend the night with her).

To cut a long story short for the next 2 hours up to 12, we were cuddling, sitting cheek to cheek, giving each other small kisses and I kept whispering I wish you didn't have to go / I wish you could stay etc, etc. The plan worked.

At around 12 she said I'm feeling tired and want to go to bed. When we got to the taxi I thought she was going to say the address of where she was going home, but instead said Burgos St. I thought Bingo! Yes!

Then going back to the hotel I was trying to play it cool. We went in holding hands up to the 20th floor. Then into the room started kissing romantically. She then said 'wait for me'. She went into the bathroom to shower and get ready. She came out wrapped in a towel. Then it was my turn to shower (but a lot quicker than her!

What followed then was really nice romantic kissing and cuddling. I slowly unwrapped her towel to see her lovely small breasts. They felt great in my hand. My hands were everywhere. Her ass, legs, breasts, long hair were all getting a really nice stroke from me. Then I tried to touch her between the legs and could feel her already wet. It was time for action. When I first tried to put my cock inside, it felt tight. At one point I thought there's no way it's going in. I'm not a big guy, it's just that she's so tiny. I slowly kept edging deeper, then looking into her eyes, and getting deeper still. Finally I'm all in and start taking my time moving in and out. Over the next 24 hours we fucked 4 times and she gave me the best sex of my life!

WestCoast1
02-10-15, 01:27
What followed then was really nice romantic kissing and cuddling. I slowly unwrapped her towel to see her lovely small breasts. They felt great in my hand. My hands were everywhere. Her ass, legs, breasts, long hair were all getting a really nice stroke from me. Then I tried to touch her between the legs and could feel her already wet. It was time for action. When I first tried to put my cock inside, it felt tight. At one point I thought there's no way it's going in. I'm not a big guy, it's just that she's so tiny. I slowly kept edging deeper, then looking into her eyes, and getting deeper still. Finally I'm all in and start taking my time moving in and out. Over the next 24 hours we fucked 4 times and she gave me the best sex of my life!Nice! Giving me a stiffie! Encore!

Forest Gump is alive and well, I believe, living somewhere in phils: "Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you'll get".

Member #4387
02-10-15, 04:04
I decided to let the Hotel pick me up using their taxi service because in previous reports people have said that there's been a very long queue waiting for a taxi. If I am correct then I believe that the taxi area is on the right side when you exit the airport and I didn't see many cars at all but I did see customers waiting around.You will allways have those complaining about paying to much. To my designated hotel in Makati it is 1800 for hotel pick up. To me time is everything and I don't want to que up wasting a hell of a lot of time waiting for a metered taxi. And dragging around with baggage together with the heat is not my idea of having fun so avoid that at almost, within reason, all costs. I underline if I see a metered taxi or have from good authority that the taxiline at departure area T3 is short, well then it is a metered one. But a hotelpick up or a mafiacab atleast get you ahead in line and into the trafficjams earlier than people waiting.

Mogwai
02-10-15, 09:47
I decided to let the Hotel pick me up using their taxi service because in previous reports people have said that there's been a very long queue waiting for a taxi. If I am correct then I believe that the taxi area is on the right side when you exit the airport and I didn't see many cars at all but I did see customers waiting around.That's correct. I've been standing in line for one hour last week for a metered taxi. However you can also take a 'coupon' taxi as they call it for a fixed price. They are available rightaway but you pay almost three times more.

Hutsori
02-10-15, 16:33
That's correct. I've been standing in line for one hour last week for a metered taxi. However you can also take a 'coupon' taxi as they call it for a fixed price. They are available rightaway but you pay almost three times more.Take the shuttle bus to Resorts World and grab a taxi there. Exit at Remington Hotel (McDo & 7-11) and walk across the street to the taxi queue. Or you can take a shuttle to EDSA and Taft Ave and hail a taxi in the street, but I wouldn't do so at night encumbered by luggage.

CallSign Papa
02-15-15, 19:40
Anyone have any insight / preference as to whether Gramercy or Rockwell offer the better quality condos for a long weekend?

AirBnB shows some pretty nice apartments in both developments.

BrainDrain
02-15-15, 21:55
Take the shuttle bus to Resorts World and grab a taxi there. Exit at Remington Hotel (McDo & 7-11) and walk across the street to the taxi queue. Or you can take a shuttle to EDSA and Taft Ave and hail a taxi in the street, but I wouldn't do so at night encumbered by luggage.Whereabouts is the meeting place for the Resorts World shuttle?

Sounds like a good solution when not encumbered by too much luggage.

Butter69
02-15-15, 23:46
So Sunday night miss X needed to go back home. She had never expected to stay overnight with me for our first ever meeting. I wanted to send her home in a taxi so she would be comfortable. I gave her 500 p. I knew it was more than she would need and she even said so. The taxi would only have cost 150 p back to her home. After she left I decided to walk around Burgos St again. Again there were girls asking me if I would like a massage. I would always politely say no. They would always try and give me their business card so I can call them when I changed my mind. I decided to sit at an outdoor restaurant. I would have a good view from here of the girls on the streets. It was good just watching them walking up and down trying to see how they were making eye contact with any guy who may be interested. In the restaurant too, there were girls who had a table and were doing the same. One of the girls saw me looking at her and then kept making eye contact with me and then glancing away and then back to me. She had a lovely smile and sexy heels. That's what I love about asian girls. Their smile, long hair, small in height, great legs and sexy heels. This girl wanted to find a customer for the night. But I was happy with the four sessions I'the had with miss X. And what made it even better was that I never had to pay for the sex. She is a normal regular working girl.

I went to another go-go. There was a coyote show here. I sat down with a cute host. She was very friendly and we had a drink together. I enjoyed her massaging my cock. At each go-go, when the drinks are ordered they will always show a slip with the price and ask you to sign so they can add to your bill each time. However, I have never done this as I would rather pay each time in full. This way I cannot overspend. After a bit of play with the host I asked her about nightclubs in this area. She told me about 'Time' which was about 10 minutes walk. I decided to check it out. After asking around outside I still couldn't find it but a security guard said it would be closed on Sunday. I was tempted to get a taxi to greenbelt 3 as I have read reports here of Havana Café which has freelancers. But as I was walking back to my hotel I found a disco on Burgos St. It's right next to the outdoor restaurant. I think called Bronx. You have to walk downstairs to enter. It wasn't very busy with customers. The deal here was that dancers would make the club look busy and also try and sit with customers to order drinks or keep them company dancing. There was also a barfine system here too. So of you liked the girl you could take her with you too. I didn't ask how much as I wasn't interested and decided to sleep instead. I needed to recharge so I could enjoy miss X again.

Tomasb
02-16-15, 01:44
I have stayed at the Gramercy two separate times thru Air BnB. It's a great place to stay though condos and price can vary a lot. The best thing is the outdoor pool on 37th floor. It also provides easy access to the nightclub on top floor and a large mall adjacent to the building. Staff was great top notch too.

Can't compare to Rockwell as never stayed there but Gram is within walking distance of P. Burgos.


Anyone have any insight / preference as to whether Gramercy or Rockwell offer the better quality condos for a long weekend?

AirBnB shows some pretty nice apartments in both developments.

Hutsori
02-16-15, 03:19
Whereabouts is the meeting place for the Resorts World shuttle?Look for the shuttle bus signs. There is the NAIA loop shuttle, but only for terminal 3. The buses are white. 20 pesos. From terminals 1, 2 and 3 there is the RW shuttle and the buses are red. Supposedly it's for RW "members" but I've haven't been asked for proof of this - busing while white, I reckon. To become a RW member, which I am, you can do an online registration at the RW website. Do it ahead of your arrival and you can pick up your card when the bus drops you off at RW. This bus is free.

OsakaGin11
02-17-15, 17:42
That's correct. I've been standing in line for one hour last week for a metered taxi. However you can also take a 'coupon' taxi as they call it for a fixed price. They are available rightaway but you pay almost three times more.Waiting a long time for a taxi at any of the Manila Airports is a problem that is very easily solved. When I am on one of my many trips to Manila I just take the elevator up to the 2nd floor departure level and catch a taxi that has just dropped someone off and always ask for the meter. And you can get to some where like the Oxford Suites hotel on P. Burgos St. Makati for between 200 to 250 pesos.

And to be honest I use this approach to getting a taxi in any city that I land in that has an airport with two levels such as either of the two airports in Bangkok.

CallSign Papa
02-17-15, 19:39
Thanks Tomas, I've stayed in a few places in and around A-Venue Mall, but never in Gramercy, seems a perfect base for sampling a few pretty young things.

Buko Max
02-18-15, 08:54
Look for the shuttle bus signs. There is the NAIA loop shuttle, but only for terminal 3. The buses are white. 20 pesos. From terminals 1, 2 and 3 there is the RW shuttle and the buses are red. Supposedly it's for RW "members" but I've haven't been asked for proof of this - busing while white, I reckon. To become a RW member, which I am, you can do an online registration at the RW website. Do it ahead of your arrival and you can pick up your card when the bus drops you off at RW. This bus is free.Did that recently when two GF met me at terminal three. We all jumped on the bus and the driver did a double take but nothing said. Marriott Hotel lobby lounge is a great place to relax and unwind. Does the shuttle run 24 hours a day? What other privileges does membership afford besides tracking your gambling and accruing points?

Buko Max
02-18-15, 09:01
Waiting a long time for a taxi at any of the Manila Airports is a problem that is very easily solved. When I am on one of my many trips to Manila I just take the elevator up to the 2nd floor departure level and catch a taxi that has just dropped someone off and always ask for the meter.You can do that at Terminal three at the far end of the departure platform where there are taxis lining up after dropping passengers off. Some of these guys are rouges! But supposedly at terminal one it is against airport policy and the drivers can get fined. Have pulled a fast one before and grabbed a taxi before the guard could do anything about it.

Butter69
02-19-15, 23:59
Miss X arrived on Monday evening looking good in her dress which showed off her lovely legs again. I felt so proud walking with her outside while we were planning on where to eat. We saw a big banner outside on the City Garden Grand Hotel advertising a rooftop restaurant / bar. We decided to check it out. It was a nice view from there and we got a table by the edge. Then after ordered cocktails and just sat close together and cuddled again. This time she knew that she would be staying the night. When walking back to my hotel I would purposely walk down Burgos st to check out the girls. I was surprised that the massage girls were still asking me if I would like a massage even though I am walking holding hands with miss x. LOL. Needless to say we were back to my room and I was enjoying her small body again. She has a lovely ass and it feels great to fuck her doggy style while carefully tugging at her long hair. I was trying my best to do all the things I've seen in porn movies. She was very compliant and sweet.

So for the rest of the trip in Makati, miss X would be staying every night and she would leave in the morning after breakfast to spend some time with her daughter and get a change of clothes. (she is a single mum). Then we would meet in the evening again for dinner and then go back to the hotel. Each evening we would try and go somewhere different. This way I could see more of Makati while having really good company.

There were only 2 evenings that I had to myself after my first night of arrival. On another evening when I was free I finally tried a massage from a cute girl. I had met her so many times already and kept saying sure, next time. She offered 350 p for the massage in the spa. We went up. I was thinking that all the girls offering the massage would always offer some sort of happy ending at an extra cost. But this girl wasn't that type. She explained that some do and some don't. So guys always check first if you really need it. By the way, the massage she gave was not very good. Again on Burgos st. I would see girls in the outdoor restaurant trying to make eye contact with me. I checked out the Bronx disco again but still looked quiet. I don't think this club would ever get busy like a regular disco, perhaps because of it's location. Again, walking back to my hotel there would be lady boys offering a massage. They would often try and get touchy feely to get me to change my mind but I keep on refusing politely. Next report I will talk about Havana Café.

Wicked Roger
02-20-15, 14:13
When walking back to my hotel I would purposely walk down Burgos st to check out the girls. I was surprised that the massage girls were still asking me if I would like a massage even though I am walking holding hands with miss x. LOL.Am not surprised. In the past I would ask one to come back and massage us both but I would ask is she would stay loner and threesome as well. So no surprises for me LOL.

Butter69
02-22-15, 00:43
Wednesday night I decided to check out Greenbelt 3 again. We were leaving the hotel late (due to another good sex session with her) and I thought the restaurants there would still be open after 10 pm and we would have a good selection to choose from. But the real reason for going there was to finally check out Havana café. I had already read reports about Havana Café being a good place to find freelancers. When I was mongering in Pattaya I always liked finding a girl from a disco rather than from a go-go bar. It would feel more normal to me doing things that way. So after arriving there by taxi we walked about looking for a place to dine. While walking past Starbucks and Havana Café I could already see a few groups of girls sitting outside looking sexy and making eye contact with me. Miss X had no idea of how much I really knew about Makati. To her I must have been an innocent tourist visiting for the first time.

We found a nice italian restaurant. After dinner I said lets walk around to find a place where we can sit outside and have a coffee. (of course it was going to be Havana café, LOL). It was about midnight, and the place was packed. Each table was full outside. I was enjoying the scene. Miss x decided to go inside and order a cocktail. There was a live band playing a mix of salsa tunes or pop songs with a latino rhythm. It was busy inside and I could see some pretty girls in groups. There were more girls than guys. We ordered our drinks and stood by the bar and had a dance. I was holding her close to me while she was rubbing her sexy ass up against my cock. This also gave me a good way to check out all the other girls in the club without her noticing as she was looking away from me. I used to enjoy doing this in Pattaya too. I kept making smiles and glances at the girls that I liked and they would smile back too. Then a very odd thing happened which I'the never experienced before. On 2 different occasions, 2 different girls who I was exchanging smiles with came and stood closer to me and miss X. I think each of them thought that there was a chance that I might let miss X go and take them instead. They were smiling and trying to make eye contact with me. This never would happen in Pattaya. Over there, if a girl was to see that I already had a girl then they would just smile back and keep looking for another customer. But here, I felt that the filipino girls are a lot more confident and bold. I was happy with my girl so thought it's better if I didn't do that too much in case she noticed. I could see a few girls were talking money with guys and leaving with them. Miss x still had no idea of how much I really knew of what was going on. We left around 1. 30 to go back to my hotel and there were still a large number of women who were still looking for someone. I think this is a good place to find girls.

Member #4387
02-22-15, 03:19
Well if your girl is manila or makati based chances are you were two pretending to not know of the place (and I can see the humor in that). Havana is an all in FL place so the girls giving you smiles have seen guys change girls all the time and since it is all in business I bet they think from many reasons (I will not speculate in here): "why not try". Every new face entering a prostitute place is a potential new customer (atleast this is what the working girlie crowd at Havana would think).

Pip Jaeger
02-22-15, 23:05
I kept making smiles and glances at the girls that I liked and they would smile back too. Then a very odd thing happened which I'the never experienced before. On 2 different occasions, 2 different girls who I was exchanging smiles with came and stood closer to me and miss X. I think each of them thought that there was a chance that I might let miss X go and take them instead. They were smiling and trying to make eye contact with me.It's quite possible they were thinking what you said, but more likely they were thinking that you were there to get another girl for a 3 some and that was their way of telling you that they were up for it (whether they were really bi-sexual or not should be determined before taking one). Couples looking for a 3rd girl often hunt there.

For future reference, before going write your phone number down on a few small slips of notepaper and if your in the same situation again you can discreetly give it to a girl too.

D Cups
02-23-15, 01:26
It's quite possible they were thinking what you said, but more likely they were thinking that you were there to get another girl for a 3 some and that was their way of telling you that they were up for it (whether they were really bi-sexual or not should be determined before taking one). Couples looking for a 3rd girl often hunt there.

For future reference, before going write your phone number down on a few small slips of notepaper and if your in the same situation again you can discreetly give it to a girl too.Pip, have you seen any girls that could be my future ex-wife in Makati? Hahha.

Python75
02-23-15, 01:48
It's quite possible they were thinking what you said, but more likely they were thinking that you were there to get another girl for a 3 some and that was their way of telling you that they were up for it (whether they were really bi-sexual or not should be determined before taking one). Couples looking for a 3rd girl often hunt there.Very true. A couple of years ago I was with a girl and mentioned a threesome. She promptly took me to Havana Cafe and organised one. Damage 2000 pesos. Great night.

Sonic Bam
02-24-15, 10:15
Stayed in Makati Sat / Sun nights, Oxford Suites. I was surprised how small the "entertainment" area on Burgos was.

Went looking for Palacio Don Pedro on Sat night. Couldn't find it and after asking a couple of security guys I found it it was closed, now Hotel Z or something. Ah well. Walking back on Burgos there was a sign for a 24 HR massage place so went upstairs. Pretty dingy place but only lady working was cute enough - 1 HR massage and HJ 1,500P. Would not repeat.

Sun night took the offer of "Hey mister, massage, massage" from one of the cute ladies in a uniform between Oxford Suites and the Cuban bar (some very young ones around, don't know if they are masseuse or touts for the shops). 1 HR massage, nothing offered, 500 P. When leaving she gives me a card with her name and number on it, Alaynna. "You come to hotel? "Yes, of course. " "Come on then. " - she changes, we walk round to OS, ID checked at the door, upstairs no problem. 2 hrs, shower together, BBBJ, DFK, DATY, FS GFE 3,000P. Very good, I would repeat. Turns out she's worked in another couple of countries / cities popular with Phil women and looking to go abroad again so a professional. After she leaves, phone call from the desk asking if everything is okay before handing back ID downstairs.

Free2
02-25-15, 03:13
Cialis?

Viagra?

Sunglasses?

Massage?

Check inside?

IPhone 6?

And the odd:

Hashish?

Ecstacy?

It gets so tiring, I have become numb to the offers. I feel like punching them in the face sometimes, especially when I am wearing sunglasses and they try to push new ones on me!

Has anybody ever lost it on a street vendor?!

Dg8787
02-25-15, 03:23
Cialis?

Viagra?

Sunglasses?

Massage?

Check inside?

IPhone 6?

And the odd:

Hashish?

Ecstacy?

It gets so tiring, I have become numb to the offers. I feel like punching them in the face sometimes, especially when I am wearing sunglasses and they try to push new ones on me!

Has anybody ever lost it on a street vendor?!No offers of pretty girls? Stun guns? Leather belts? Lighters? Switch blades? These guys are no worst than an Amway sales person!

My understanding is a few guys did loose it but were unable to write a report about it for a while.

Sonic Bam
02-25-15, 05:11
Has anybody ever lost it on a street vendor?!Got close. Guy followed me for more than a block. "No thank you, no thank you, no thanks, not interested, no, no, no, no, will you just f*** off!" he did.

Simmer
02-25-15, 19:14
It gets so tiring, I have become numb to the offers. I feel like punching them in the face sometimes, especially when I am wearing sunglasses and they try to push new ones on me!

Has anybody ever lost it on a street vendor?!What's the point? They're trying to make a living. It's annoying but I smile, shake my head, and keep walking. They don't follow me and rarely try to catch my attention again. Once you engage in conversation. Even saying "no" - you've elicited a reaction from them.

CallSign Papa
02-25-15, 21:36
And never forget, even in Makati (and especially around P. Burgos) Fili guys hunt in packs, you might lose your shit with one guy and 5 seconds later there are 6 guys crowding around you and then you're buying whatever their selling! I tell them no twice, then ignore the fact that they're there.

Wander Luster
02-25-15, 21:57
You can get better, much better, apartment / living short term situations in Makati vs. Cebu. Just remember economies of scale help, and there are tons more apartment buildings in Makati.

I worked in Cebu for over a 14 months in the past. I like that the girls here in Makati where I've been for 5 wks now can be more "cosmopolitan". If you want to find someone for a fling, pay or no pay, you're more like to find a girl here who's more exposed to other countries. I' m realizing that "traditional" means little exposure to the west or even other countries, and open to hook-ups is the opposite. It's that simple. Girls that never had experience out of their cell-phone shop and parents home in Cebu. They may expect 5 dates to get laid. If they have girlfriends that tell them foreigners fuck after 2 meets then they get they move closer to the 2.

_Over 14 months mongering in the PH, my philosophy_.

This is a bone of contention (sometimes a bone that gets better attention). I'm lucky to have some looks and extrovert charm to make the p4 p work for me in the PH. I think everyone should use their advantages to make P4 P the best "value. " That's why fishbowls are kinda dumb. You haven't warmed a girl up with some charm or trust or REAL attraction so she feels a bit more like GF sex. True, though, sometimes that connection which goes beyond just mechanical sex happens just kissing when you've paid the piper!

I do NOT like Havana club in Greenbelt. Many of these girls think they're special because they wear nice cloths and have been with rich guys. This is rich guy central and tourist ground zero. So, get at LEAST a bit away from ground zero. Honestly I think Havana in Greenbelt is for suckers. BTW: I've been working blocks from here for 5 months.

_About LA Cafe_.

I was there on 2 different weekend nights. You do need to do some work. Move around. Talk to the girls. Don't let them come to you! Never let them come to you in any bar is my MO. At LEAST flirt with who you find cute. That works. But wait for the girl that sits with you and she will probably not be you're type.

So first time there found some real amateurs just looking to make a little extra. I like that. I didn't see much of that at club Havana. Maybe none. I wound up with a girl that wouldn't know how to sit in Greenbelt perfectly because she's from the province a few years ago and from central manila. But I give a shit about high-style if I'm looking for a night of boning. She turned out to be amazing. Total GF all night, and was P3000. No way you'll get less than P4000 at Havana and even under p5000 is tough, and all the girls I went w /, after talking up dozens and seeing what their attitude was like, were out to make a lot of money. They can. There are MANY high rollers coming through and these girls get greedy.

Second weekend night at la caf the quality seemed worse. I don't like girls that look super pros, and there are a lot at LA Caf like Havana. But, I found my girl from the last time, and what shocked me is there are bars NEAR LA Caf with a lot of freelancers that are very cute but not cut out for the meat market and loud music of LA Caf. These places look prime. I'll go directly to them next time.

So, my girl from LA caf and I got together about 4 times all together. She wound up being a little TOO much un-aware of how people act in the cities and that was a turn-off when she was getting sick, visited when I called, and decided to hang with me a spit tons of phlem in my sink a lot. BUT, overall she was a complete sweety, a solid 8, very interested in having real conversations. Was cool hearing about her growing up waayyyy off the beaten road or path in a village in the mountains. And, she was not too pushy at any time.

Also consider Tindr if you are younger (I'm in 40's). Have seen other guys do well there. Fi Heart has NOT worked too well for me. I find that 98% of the girls are used to be gamed and / or just want a husband. I've gotten laid from it, but just not many girls out for a hook-up.

Enjoy the life and treat the girls with respect.

WL.

Butter69
02-25-15, 23:00
Thursday night miss x decided to take me to a Filipino restaurant close to where she lives in Manila. The area is near Robinsons shopping mall. When we arrived I could see the area was very lively. From the taxi I could see freelancers standing around and we also went past a few go-go bars. After dinner I told her that I wanted to walk around this area. As we walked past some of the go-go bars there would be girls standing outside saying 'welcome sir'. A very different vibe to Burgos St. I couldn't see any security guys anywhere. The go-go's were spread across a few streets. I think maybe 2 or 3 streets / blocks. There was also an outdoor square which had bars all around playing different kinds of club music. Some cute waitresses inside. There wasn't much else to do for us so we decided to go to Havana Café again. We arrived around 12 again. It was busy just like last night and there was a different live band too. I could see some new girls were here but also some of the same girls from last night too. Again I didn't let miss x catch me smiling at anyone. Across the 2 nights in this place I have seen about 8 girls that I would have liked to have spoken to in regards to taking them back to my hotel for sex. So as before we left around 1. 30 am.

Before arriving here I also tried using a website called Date In Asia but I never got much responses from the girls that I wrote to. I made sure to only write to those that are staying in Manila / Makati. I thought it would be another way to shag girls during the day while miss x was away.

In terms of location Burgos St worked out well as it's near to 24 HR places to eat, 24 HR pharmacy, 24 HR money changers plus a laundry service down the road. There is also a sex shop around the corner called Pleasure Palace.

There's isn't anything else new to report. I'the just like to say a big thank you to everyone that's been writing reports because it's made my trip very knowledgeable and enjoyable.

PulpFictionXXX
03-02-15, 17:29
Hi Seniors,

I am in Makati for the last few weeks and look forward to some mongering between Mar 8 -10.

After RTFF, I have concluded that my best options is Burgos and the clubs therein. I might try Havana cafe as well.

I tried my hotel's in-call massage and I really liked the masseuse who had come down. Great massage, however, no extras on offer despite having called her twice. Hope she does not complain to the hotel reception regarding my asking of extras.

Anyway, I would request the pros to guide me for the mongering. If you have any contacts to share or any massage parlours where some GFE can be expected then please share. My PM is active. In return, I promise to write FRs and share any other contacts that I make.

Regards,

PulpFictionXXX

BrainDrain
03-02-15, 23:49
Hi Seniors,

I am in Makati for the last few weeks and look forward to some mongering between Mar 8 -10.

After RTFF, I have concluded that my best options is Burgos and the clubs therein. I might try Havana cafe as well.

I tried my hotel's in-call massage and I really liked the masseuse who had come down. Great massage, however, no extras on offer despite having called her twice. Hope she does not complain to the hotel reception regarding my asking of extras.

Anyway, I would request the pros to guide me for the mongering. If you have any contacts to share or any massage parlours where some GFE can be expected then please share. My PM is active. In return, I promise to write FRs and share any other contacts that I make.

Regards,

PulpFictionXXXYou are well on your way now.

For your next step, start sharing your experiences of the last few weeks.

You imply you are already in Ph, start sharing what's been working for you and not working, hits and misses. That way, you will contribute to the forum AND the other contributors will give you tailored information. So a poster with 2 posts, in the Phils for a few weeks that doesn't yet find the time to write any FR, probably wouldn't get much guidance.

A newbie in the PR doing his best, writing what he's done and bringing a few smiles to faces is going to be a whole lot better.

Make an effort!

BD.

LuvAsianTang
03-03-15, 01:18
Hi Seniors,

I am in Makati for the last few weeks and look forward to some mongering between Mar 8 -10.

After RTFF, I have concluded that my best options is Burgos and the clubs therein. I might try Havana cafe as well.

I tried my hotel's in-call massage and I really liked the masseuse who had come down. Great massage, however, no extras on offer despite having called her twice. Hope she does not complain to the hotel reception regarding my asking of extras.

Anyway, I would request the pros to guide me for the mongering. If you have any contacts to share or any massage parlours where some GFE can be expected then please share. My PM is active. In return, I promise to write FRs and share any other contacts that I make.

Regards,

PulpFictionXXXJust go down to p burgos street and ask any of the many massage girls there for room massage with everything included most will do full service. The going price can range anywhere from 1500 to 2000 pesos but I wouldn't go much above that.

Some will ask for 3000 but that can be negotiated down to 2000 as a rule. Also keep in mind that if you don't include the massage cost in your negotiations they will after the deed. If you find a good one always get her contact number so you can share with the rest of us, I do that for myself as well, I may want to repeat with her.

As far as your in room massage thru the hotel you are staying at, I wouldn't worry about that, they would think you were gay if you didn't ask for extras. I would also only tip them 100 p for the massage. If they want more they have to open their mouths and receive the penis at the very least for me to tip them more.

Now get on down there and start enjoying the many available girls in makati. Take notes take pictures and start posting and becoming a productive member of ISG. Also pay the yearly fee so you can recieve and send pm's that's the least you can do to help keep this site going.

Happy pooning L A T.

Chaton31
03-03-15, 12:14
Hi guy,

I m staying in BGC and would like to ask you if you know some good bars or gogo just nearby, where I don't need to take a cab.

Thanks for your advice.

PulpFictionXXX
03-03-15, 15:31
Hi LuvAsianTang, BrainDrain.

Thank you for the advice and guidance.

I am new to the ISG and am a paid member, hence can receive and send PMs.

I am PH for now 4 weeks and no action yet as I am on a business trip. The Leisure part begins after Mar 8. As LuvAsianTang mentioned, I would start from Burgos & keep you posted.

As far as the adventures until now, no action yet. Just got this massage girl from my hotel's in-call service. Great massage but no extras on offer despite asking both the times.

I had RTFF, however, did not really go the DIA and online dating route as that is not my cup of tea. I am more into Club (Germany FKK) and escort (India) kind of mongering, hence, the request for contacts. Nonetheless, I get the message and will share the experience.

Best regards,

PulpFictionxxx


Just go down to p burgos street and ask any of the many massage girls there for room massage with everything included most will do full service. The going price can range anywhere from 1500 to 2000 pesos but I wouldn't go much above that.

Some will ask for 3000 but that can be negotiated down to 2000 as a rule. Also keep in mind that if you don't include the massage cost in your negotiations they will after the deed. If you find a good one always get her contact number so you can share with the rest of us, I do that for myself as well, I may want to repeat with her.

As far as your in room massage thru the hotel you are staying at, I wouldn't worry about that, they would think you were gay if you didn't ask for extras. I would also only tip them 100 p for the massage. If they want more they have to open their mouths and receive the penis at the very least for me to tip them more.

Now get on down there and start enjoying the many available girls in makati. Take notes take pictures and start posting and becoming a productive member of ISG. Also pay the yearly fee so you can recieve and send pm's that's the least you can do to help keep this site going.

Happy pooning L A T.

Lobo220
03-10-15, 18:57
I've always done the hotel route when in Makati. Does anyone have any experience using airbnb there?

Hutsori
03-11-15, 11:18
I've always done the hotel route when in Makati. Does anyone have any experience using airbnb there?Everyone one of your as-of-now 18 posts is a question. These can be answered using the forum's search function or google. Don't expect to receive until you start giving in return.

OneIpole
03-13-15, 10:02
New bar opened next to billboard. So far I'm loving it. Fist bar I've been to were they have menus with the actual prices for everything listed out. Happy hour and regular time, plus how much ladies drinks are for each item. I just loved this idea- I know I'm not getting ripped off. Bar fine is only PHP 1,500.00 all the TIME!! Loving that! Cheapest in Makati that I can find. Super packed last weekend and the girls went fast, a lot of bar fines I am sure because of the price. Not the hotest of all the girls, I still think plan be has the best hotties. But the girls are good looking and fun and can't beat the price.

GoodEnough
03-13-15, 10:05
New bar opened next to billboard. So far I'm loving it. Fist bar I've been to were they have menus with the actual prices for everything listed out. Happy hour and regular time, plus how much ladies drinks are for each item. I just loved this idea- I know I'm not getting ripped off. Bar fine is only PHP 1,500.00 all the TIME!! Loving that! Cheapest in Makati that I can find. Super packed last weekend and the girls went fast, a lot of bar fines I am sure because of the price. Not the hotest of all the girls, I still think plan be has the best hotties. But the girls are good looking and fun and can't beat the price.I met one of the owners shortly after the place opened. He told me they're planning to open an outdoor bar / restaurant on the third floor and they're also going to do something with the second floor though I can't remember any details. I agree, it's a very friendly, open place.

GE.

PulpFictionXXX
03-22-15, 21:35
Dear Ffllas,

As promised, sharing my first experience in Makati. After RTFF and as advised by some seniors, started hunting out on the Burgos street. Was too tired of my travel and had planned to take someone for full night so that can have a short session for a Good Nights sleep and then have a nice morning breakfast.

Did not have the energy left to check the bars and hence, was looking for Massage Girls Only. First encounter at the junction of City Garden hotel. 3 girls, with 1 nice slim looking and 1 plump. I asked full service and the plump one shied away and the slim one quoted 10 k Peso. I tried to negotiate to 3000 Peso, but seems that the girl was was not really interested and asked me to look elsewhere. Well, Quite rude, and so I said FO and walked away.

Took the entry to Burgos street from the Ivory bar side, walking towards Makati Avenue, found two massage girls standing right after Cafe Cubana. Again 1 plump and another one short and slim. Negotiated for Full service and full night stay for 2000 Peso and 500 Peso if service is good. The Slim girl agreed and I asked to her to come to the hotel.

Back at the hotel, the girl arrived and she looked so small in her street wear. I wondered whether I would be pleased by her. I usually like chubbier girls. Anyway, It was too late and I was too sleepy so just told her that I want her to be my girlfriend for the night. She laughed off.

We undressed each other, took a shower together and that is when I realized, how lucky I was. Her body was short and slim, however, the boobs were really shapely and tight. She knew well how to use her hands. Great arousal in the shower and we were back in the bed.

Started with light kisses and moved over body, kissed and played with tight boobs. Then she turned me around and started kissing all over my body. Slowly, she started with a BBBJ and what an amazing BJ she gave me. Excellent use of teeth and tongue over the shaft, moving over to the balls and then nice rimming down there. I had to stop her since I did not want to come too soon. I turned her and returned the favor with DATY. This aroused her and she held my hair and pushed me further deep with some nice moaning. I continued until she pulled me over for DFK and then we turned around to get into 69. Again an amazing BBBJ and simultaneous DATY started. I must say this was the best BJ, I have ever had. Finally, I asked her to ride me and she put the jacket on my Johny and starting riding as Cow Girl. Man, she is best at that and knows her stuff. No one even came close to match her Cow Girl skills in the next 6 days of mongering that I had. It was my first WOT experience and I just enjoyed it like anything. Moved to Doggy, where her pussy felt really tight due to her short and slim body and finally Mish. Her skills with her petite body made up for my anxieties regarding she not being chubby. Finally, I decided to come on her body. It was an amazing fuck (may be well deserved one) after going dry for nearly 6 weeks in Makati. Skin was super soft and fair. We washed up and then cozied up together in the bed. She decided to go naked with only the towel wrap. Such a relaxed sleep. Probably, because of her routine, she did not get sleep until 4 AM and continued to watch MTV (singing songs) until that time, while I dozed off.

Morning, was easy one. We went together for the hotel breakfast and came back to the room. Got ready for another session. Again, a great DFK, followed by BBBJ, DATY, 69. This time, she took her Cow Girl skills to next level and came in this position. She was literally wild and and kissing me and biting me all over as she came. Finally, she made me come in the Cow girl position as well. Loved the experience and immediately decided to call her back in the evening rather than looking for new pussy. Sometimes, tried and tested is better than a new one.

We decided to meet at 6 PM. She took an off and then we went out. Watched a movie together at GB3, followed by a drink in Valero street. We came back to the room and she took the lead in gearing for the session. Undressing, Showering together, fondling followed by a nice GFE session. I think our outing together helped in establishing the needed chemistry for GFE. Amazing BBBJ, DATY, DFK and Cow Girl. Tried Doggy and Mish, but finally came in Cow Girl. She is just too good at that.

Again, slept together, completely naked and cozied up. Had breakfast together and kissed each other Good byes. Had to leave early for work and hence, no time for morning session except the kisses.

Total Damages: 4000 Peso (first night) + 2000 Peso (second night) + 1000 Peso (movie + drinks + dinner). She works as a massage girl and seems to have worked in Singapore and Dubai. Has a daughter to support and wants to goto Korea after saving some money. Goes to Ayala for a morning job after her massage job is over. Excellent GFE and unforgettable experience.

NoCBJ4Me
04-01-15, 15:48
I was hunting in the Burgos Street Area earlier this week. I went into Ivory bar and immediately spied a hot girl and called her over and bought her a ladys drink. She had an absolutely fantastic body. We chatted and I figured she had a good attitude, so I asked her about the barfine. That's when she said she had just started her Mens. Man, was I disappointed. I left there and headed down the road and after checking out some other bars, I ended up in High Heals. I was immediately surrounded I started talking to them and played with their boobs etc. Two of them offered to blow me right there in the booth. I negotiated 400 peso each for the double blowjob. They took turns doing BBBJ on me, while two other girls blocked it from view. I had a great time with those girls. Well worth the price.

Got to love the Philippines!

nocbj4me.

Traveler1234
04-01-15, 19:07
That's when she said she had just started her Mens.
Often, the men's excuse is their polite way of saying no. Especially if they work only for drinks.

Welcome back. No LOS this trip? ;)

Butter69
04-01-15, 22:15
I was hunting in the Burgos Street Area earlier this week. I went into Ivory bar and immediately spied a hot girl and called her over and bought her a ladys drink. She had an absolutely fantastic body. We chatted and I figured she had a good attitude, so I asked her about the barfine. That's when she said she had just started her Mens. Man, was I disappointed. I left there and headed down the road and after checking out some other bars, I ended up in High Heals. I was immediately surrounded I started talking to them and played with their boobs etc. Two of them offered to blow me right there in the booth. I negotiated 400 peso each for the double blowjob. They took turns doing BBBJ on me, while two other girls blocked it from view. I had a great time with those girls. Well worth the price.

Got to love the Philippines!

nocbj4me.Hi, Thanks for sharing. I had the same experience in High Heels bar too back in Jan but I didn't negotiate and paid 1000 to each girl for the double blow job. Next time I am back in Philli I will try the same too.

SportMongr
04-01-15, 22:40
Dear Ffllas,

As promised, sharing my first experience in Makati. After RTFF and as advised by some seniors, started hunting out on the Burgos street. Was too tired of my travel and had planned to take someone for full night so that can have a short session for a Good Nights sleep and then have a nice morning breakfast.

Did not have the energy left to check the bars and hence, was looking for Massage Girls Only. First encounter at the junction of City Garden hotel. 3 girls, with 1 nice slim looking and 1 plump. I asked full service and the plump one shied away and the slim one quoted 10 k Peso. I tried to negotiate to 3000 Peso, but seems that the girl was was not really interested and

Total Damages: 4000 Peso (first night) + 2000 Peso (second night) + 1000 Peso (movie + drinks + dinner). She works as a massage girl and seems to have worked in Singapore and Dubai. Has a daughter to support and wants to goto Korea after saving some money. Goes to Ayala for a morning job after her massage job is over. Excellent GFE and unforgettable experience.Nice story. Really not unusual in the PI. What is disturbing is your lack of negotiating skills. For a late night 2 banger. 4 k plus from a st. Girl? Christ! Thanks for turning PI into a US border town.

NoCBJ4Me
04-01-15, 22:46
Hi, Thanks for sharing. I had the same experience in High Heels bar too back in Jan but I didn't negotiate and paid 1000 to each girl for the double blow job. Next time I am back in Philli I will try the same too.I ended up giving them 500 each for doing such a good job.


Often, the men's excuse is their polite way of saying no. Especially if they work only for drinks.

Welcome back. No LOS this trip? ;)Thanks Traveler1234.

Who knows if she was lying or not.

Maybe both LOS and PI next trip! I do like LOS food better than food in the PI.

nocbj4me.

GoodEnough
04-02-15, 08:56
I had some work to do in Manila yesterday and so got trapped here in Makati until tomorrow. Today is the official beginning of Holy Week, and I think it's the first time I've ever been in Manila during this period. I hadn't realized that it's evidently quite possible to close down an entire country. The malls are shut tight, the restaurants are closed, as are all of the bars. It's as if the mercantile economy is irrelevant and apparently the only open commercial establishments are the hotels. The streets are almost deserted. The cost to the economy must be staggering but I guess no one cares.

GE.

Val979
04-02-15, 09:59
I had some work to do in Manila yesterday and so got trapped here in Makati until tomorrow. Today is the official beginning of Holy Week, and I think it's the first time I've ever been in Manila during this period. I hadn't realized that it's evidently quite possible to close down an entire country. The malls are shut tight, the restaurants are closed, as are all of the bars. It's as if the mercantile economy is irrelevant and apparently the only open commercial establishments are the hotels. The streets are almost deserted. The cost to the economy must be staggering but I guess no one cares.

GENever seen the streets so clear if your looking for a bar and food Cafe Cubana is open on Burgos.

PolyOrchid
04-02-15, 11:51
The cost to the economy must be staggering but I guess no one cares.GE.Hosanna in the Highest.

Sonic Bam
04-06-15, 10:09
She works as a massage girl and seems to have worked in Singapore and Dubai. Has a daughter to support and wants to goto Korea after saving some money. Goes to Ayala for a morning job after her massage job is over. Excellent GFE and unforgettable experience.Sounds and looks like Alaynna who I met in Feb though your pics don't do her justice. I concur on her skills and level of service.

Mr Hawaii
04-07-15, 18:07
Went into a bar on Burgos st. Waitress asked me what I wanted to drink. I said, "breast milk". I guess I said it too loud because a girl got off the stage, came to my table, pulled down her top, and offered me her breast, which she squeezed, to show me her milk. So, I had my "breast milk". Love the P. I.

Pekkakoo
04-08-15, 21:48
I was thinking to rent a room for about a monthin June preferably close to Greenbelt. Anyone have any suggestions? If I stay 3-4 weeks then a hotel might not be a good idea. There are some towers or something? Are these any good condos there and is it possible to rent such a short time?

D Cups
04-08-15, 22:13
Went into a bar on Burgos st. Waitress asked me what I wanted to drink. I said, "breast milk". I guess I said it too loud because a girl got off the stage, came to my table, pulled down her top, and offered me her breast, which she squeezed, to show me her milk. So, I had my "breast milk". Love the P. I.What bar is that, Mr. H? I am addicted to it.

Inlock
04-09-15, 23:30
I was thinking to rent a room for about a monthin June preferably close to Greenbelt. Anyone have any suggestions? If I stay 3-4 weeks then a hotel might not be a good idea. There are some towers or something? Are these any good condos there and is it possible to rent such a short time?

I have rented tower condos for three or four weeks in Legazpi Village and Salcedo Village through airbnb.com the last couple of times I was in Manila.
That's less than 10 minutes walk from Greenbelt.

I spend close to the same amount of money I used to spend on an average hotel room, but get approx twice the amount of space, including kitchen facilities, pool access, and the feeling of staying in a "real home".

Highly recommended.

Other sites to look for rental of condos or rooms include:

pearlslettingagency.com - rentpad.com.ph - olx.ph

Mr Hawaii
04-10-15, 06:17
What bar is that, Mr. H? I am addicted to it.Geez, you had to ask, didn't you? Maybe Papillon. There are so many bars on that side of street. Opposite side of Moulin Rouge. Now I cannot remember any of them. I do remember that you walk in, go down narrow pathway, bar (small) is on your right, girls sitting on benches to your left, small, small dance stage in back middle. At the bar is maybe 5 chairs, with the girls' dance floor fairly close to the bar. One CR, to the left of the bar as you face it. I looked for a picture of Burgos on google, couldn't find it. Every time I go to the PI I tell myself that I will keep a daily diary and post when I return home. Never happens. As reminder to myself, will post from the hotels I am staying at. Some of the stuff that happens is sooooo great. You guys know what I'm talking about. Some of it downright unbelievable, and would never, NEVER happen in the USA.

Coolica
04-10-15, 10:03
Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I've come on these forums, but I've started to feel restless again and I wanted to try something different aside from the Go-Go Bars and KTV's.

I've always been curious about escorts and escort agencies, but my past experiences with them in Manila (and other countries) haven't been good. My last experience with an escort I found online.

In Manila left me quite disappointed.

So after researching a bit I found what seems to be a decent, reputable website called www.manilacourtesans.com.ph and I was wondering if anyone has tried their services before?

I would be very appreciative if anyone can tell me about their experiences using them. I can't find pictures of the girls from that specific site because apparently you have to do some kind of preliminary.

Booking in order for them to send you pictures via email.

Also note that I'm talking about the specific escort service mentioned above. Their websites warns of many copy cats that I have actually come across (such as manilacourtesans.com) which seem.

To not be as discreet (nor did the pictures of the girls on their website really interest me.).

Tomasb
04-10-15, 10:31
You just described Papillon. I went several times in early / mid January and briefly met a girl known as Joyce Blowjob for her legendary BJ skills. They have a room in back, which anyone can rent out short term, and some pretty hot young girls. When I was there one night, this regular customer comes in, who proceeds to take 6 girls to the back room where I was told he gets treated like a Roman emperor. I remember noticing the back door area behind the dance stage and seeing Joyce spitting into a bucket near the door to this room.

She had my number and one night called me about 30 times after Papillon closed, which was notated on my phone from about 4 am closing time onward. I was fast asleep so never got the opportunity to sample her skills.


Geez, you had to ask, didn't you? Maybe Papillon. There are so many bars on that side of street. Opposite side of Moulin Rouge. Now I cannot remember any of them. I do remember that you walk in, go down narrow pathway, bar (small) is on your right, girls sitting on benches to your left, small, small dance stage in back middle. At the bar is maybe 5 chairs, with the girls' dance floor fairly close to the bar. One CR, to the left of the bar as you face it. I looked for a picture of Burgos on google, couldn't find it. Every time I go to the PI I tell myself that I will keep a daily diary and post when I return home. Never happens. As reminder to myself, will post from the hotels I am staying at. Some of the stuff that happens is sooooo great. You guys know what I'm talking about. Some of it downright unbelievable, and would never, NEVER happen in the USA.

Mtodd69
04-12-15, 23:10
Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I've come on these forums, but I've started to feel restless again and I wanted to try something different aside from the Go-Go Bars and KTV's.

I've always been curious about escorts and escort agencies, but my past experiences with them in Manila (and other countries) haven't been good. My last experience with an escort I found online.

In Manila left me quite disappointed.

So after researching a bit I found what seems to be a decent, reputable website called www.manilacourtesans.com.ph and I was wondering if anyone has tried their services before?

I would be very appreciative if anyone can tell me about their experiences using them. I can't find pictures of the girls from that specific site because apparently you have to do some kind of preliminary..I do use escort most the time while I am there working to keep my fun private so these are the best three sites with the best lady's I have used, send me PM if you need more detail on other ladies on these site. I have used many of them on these specific site in this post. (Consider using escort will cost you money).

http://manilacourtesans.com/

Sasha (A-Level) has bad hygiene practice and her picture is photo shopped.

Molly has OK body but very technical and watches the clock and is always on her phone chatting.

http://www.vipmanila.net

Try Eurika she is very GFE if she likes you and will give you her cell# for off the book hire, she is also on a massage site. Very busy lady!

DIANE is also very GFE and will also work off the book hire.

http://www.chozadate.com/xchozapage1.php

Heart Good Service in all position, not good at BJ, we are good friends on Facebook, has her own car and will work off the book for hire.

Porsha, Loves having sex in the shower and gives a pretty good BJ or maybe it's the shower play that makes her so motivated?

Aira, still learning her trade but she tries very hard to make you happy, she now likes blind fold sex with toys in the ready.

Kara, Loves to eat lots of food after the deeds and will stay late during the week day if you book her between Monday – Thursday after 11:00 pm at no additional charge she rents a bed space so condo / hotel bed all night is her magic key to discount love box with lots of foreplay anal action!

Coolica
04-13-15, 09:29
I do use escort most the time while I am there working to keep my fun private so these are the best three sites with the best lady's I have used, send me PM if you need more detail on other ladies on these site. I have used many of them on these specific site in this post. (Consider using escort will cost you money).

http://manilacourtesans.com/

Sasha (A-Level) has bad hygiene practice and her picture is photo shopped.

Molly has OK body but very technical and watches the clock and is always on her phone chatting.

http://www.vipmanila.net

Try Eurika she is very GFE if she likes you and will give you her cell# for off the book hire, she is also on a massage site. Very busy lady!

DIANE is also very GFE and will also work off the book hire...Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! Though I'll have to be honest. I don't really find any of them that attractive.

I know by mentioning this that I'm pretty much saying I'm in the wrong country, but I prefer Caucasian women. With that said, I do like Asian women, but.

The problem being that I don't like the typical Filipino women. However am very attracted to the fair skinned ones (like the half American or Half Chinese ones, or.

The ones you see on FHM haha.)

The problem I find with most of these escort sites are that the women all seem very "typical" and I don't find them attractive. Don't get me wrong; I did say I prefer.

Fair skinned women, but I don't mind them a little dark if they are hot enough (since I do see a lot of not-so-fair skinned girls in Burgoos Go-Go bars and still find them.

Attractive.).

Obviously it's quite difficult to find Caucasian escorts here in Manila (as previously mentioned, the last one I booked was very disappointing) but as I said I do like.

Fair skinned Asians. It just seems hard to find any Filipina escorts like that on most escort sites.

I have found some independent escorts from sites.

But I'm worried about the pictures being Photoshopped (some definitely are, but I can't tell sometimes). I have also resorted to using my contacts and getting girls.

Through private pimps (they send me pics of the girls, arrange for a meet, etc.) which is fine, but I don't want to do that on a regular basis because it's both costly.

And more difficult to do.

Moreover, I am quite inexperienced when it comes to hiring an escort (since I usually don't unless it's with a friend) by myself. When I do it with my friend we usually.

Take them out to the clubs and then bring them back to bang after (so it's like a date basically.) Moreover I've never done it here; typically I've only done escort.

Services in other countries where I have a hotel room, no permanent address, etc. I don't know how it works in Manila.

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Hutsori
04-13-15, 16:28
I've always been curious about escorts and escort agencies, but my past experiences with them in Manila (and other countries) haven't been good. My last experience with an escort I found online. In Manila left me quite disappointed.



I do use escort most the time while I am there working to keep my fun private so these are the best three sites with the best lady's I have used, send me PM if you need more detail on other ladies on these site. I have used many of them on these specific site in this post. (Consider using escort will cost you money).


Thanks for the feedback! I appreciate it! Though I'll have to be honest. I don't really find any of them that attractive.Since both of you are newbs having very few posts between the both of you I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Philippines forum. You'll see there is a thread devoted to escorts, right here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2457-Internet-Escorts. Please try to keep things tidy. Not only will it help you, it'll be a benefit to those looking for pertinent info in the future. Thanks.

Member #4387
04-13-15, 18:20
Since both of you are newbs having very few posts between the both of you I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Philippines forum. You'll see there is a thread devoted to escorts, right here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2457-Internet-Escorts. Please try to keep things tidy. Not only will it help you, it'll be a benefit to those looking for pertinent info in the future. Thanks.I agree with you but to nubes defence it can sometimes even for long time posters (me) be hard to know where you put your agenda (manila thread, general thread etc etc, often blurred lines). But I guess you just wanted to advice people there are many threads in ISG phil section. Happy pooning.

OneIpole
04-13-15, 18:52
I met one of the owners shortly after the place opened. He told me they're planning to open an outdoor bar / restaurant on the third floor and they're also going to do something with the second floor though I can't remember any details. I agree, it's a very friendly, open place.

GE.Crazy Horse is so far so good. I will go and enjoy the cheap happy hour drinks, plus girl drinks are cheaper at that time. Get a girl relatively early and pay the cheap 1,500 bar fine. Then take her to another bar where the drinks are normal like cubana or h / j and then party for the night, maybe eat some dinner, just like a real date but you know your getting laid for sure! Then take her back and bang her up. Give her 2,000 and send her packing. By far the cheapest date I have been on and get the pussy for sure!

I am hoping it will force the other places to drop their bar fines also. No fucking way I am paying anything over 2,600 for a bar fine ever (just because the girls are hot at plan be! Some of these places are such fucking tourist traps! Moulon Rouge with fucking crazy 3,800 for a bar fine! My god you have to be a tourist to fall for that shit.

OneIpole
04-13-15, 18:54
Anyone having good luck on Tinder? I have not had a hookup yet but am close now. Wonder it she really wants a date or just money to fuck.

CallSign Papa
04-14-15, 21:24
Yeah I found Tinder to be quite a useful resource. It's worth noting though that girls may have their age filter set below what your age is (as taken from your attached FB profile), so they just won't see you, even if you swipe right on them.

A good mix of P4 P, girls looking for a good night out and "soul mate searchers".

Coolica
04-16-15, 05:40
Since both of you are newbs having very few posts between the both of you I suggest you familiarise yourself with the Philippines forum. You'll see there is a thread devoted to escorts, right here http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2457-Internet-Escorts. Please try to keep things tidy. Not only will it help you, it'll be a benefit to those looking for pertinent info in the future. Thanks.Thanks for the reply Hutsori. I am a noob when it comes to posting on these forums, though I do try to read through a lot of the stuff here. I've been a lurker since the past I think 5 years or more? Yet I post very little. Though I do recognize a few veterans such as yourself from lurking, so a response is much appreciated.

Thanks for pointing me as well to the escort forum. I shall read through that. The reason I posted in Makati however was that I am mainly looking for services located around here (both escorts and massage parlors.) I know that massage parlors are abundant in QC (to which I've been to Kremlin; I can say that it's actually quite good and on par with the middle range ones I've been to in other countries) but I haven't actually found a good one in Makati. I've tried to search a few times by browsing here (which led met to a few places that seem to not be as quality as the ones in QC) but ultimately no luck.

Anyways I'll look through the escort forum and see what I can find. Though if you have any suggestions as to where to go in Makati area that isn't so sketchy and has higher quality women it would be much appreciated. (Price isn't really a concern unless it's heading to past 50 k per night of fun).

At the moment I'm probably going to check out Primero in BGC and see how that place is. Seeing as it's modeled after Aisan KTV's (the ones I primarily visit in Japan, Taiwan, and Thailand where I used to live / frequent) it should prove to be quite an experience. Though I realize that the girls might not be of the quality I'm looking for (I assume the girls that work in Primero will be girls who are hoping to end up in Shinjuku KTV's in Japan, which also left me unsatisfied.).

Coolica
04-17-15, 06:33
Just wanted to also add and clarify my last post (seems like editing isn't allowed here.).

I don't mind paying for higher priced escorts / women if I know they are quality, but my point was that if I am going to pay 50 k a night, I might as well go to countries outside the Philippines and to find them because I know for that I will get what I paid for (since I guess the industry flourishes more in other countries not only for the foreigners but for the locals as well? It's in the culture to go to KTV's for business meetings / after work in other Asian countries like Japan and Taiwan, so I guess it's more "developed" in other places.).

So like I said, if such a woman appeared here I wouldn't mind paying similar prices (hot, educated woman who knows how to act as a proper escort going out, does not seem trashy / low class, etc.).

However said activities being quite taxing on the wallet to do every week, I'd like to find cheaper alternatives, but so far what I've seen here (been to P. Burgos and Classmates and Kremlin Spa) pale in comparison to other places (like Thailand's Soy Cow Boi district) that fall in the same price range. The only place I have been satisfied with so far is Kremlin Spa, and even then it's nothing compared to Thailand's La Belle (It's on par with La Belle's lower end girls.) Also just FYI for the price I paid classmates I would imagined it would be a lot nicer.

I'm still going to check out other KTV-esque places and see (like Pegasus and other well known ones) and see, but like I said so far it's been disappointing for the past year (both service and quality).

On another note, regarding the other forums, it seems like they aren't as active either (specifically talking about the Escort forum directed to me, it seems like it hasn't been updated recently aside from the recent 1 or 2 posts, others are months / years apart so I can't really get a good idea if the information still applies or not.) Also like I mentioned, it seems like the protocols here that apply to women in this industry are a bit different compared to other countries so I'm still unsure about how to go about handling the women here. (I assume the standards like don't bring them to the condo you live in, etc. Apply.) What I'm mostly confused about is how women here can seem so sketchy compared to other places, and conversations always lead to something about money for their family etc. I am also still confused as to where are appropriate places to take these women (do you just stay around the seedy areas like P. Burgos bars? I don't know).

Again, sorry if this post seems insulting, but I'm not hating on anyone or the Philippines; I'm just being blunt about my experiences here for the past year. I guess to be frank what I'm trying to say that in other countries, I'm satisfied with what I pay for both low and high prices, but it's been disappointing here so far, and that's why I'm looking to you guys to see if I can solve that problem.

Hutsori
04-17-15, 10:20
Thanks for pointing me as well to the escort forum. I shall read through that. The reason I posted in Makati however was that I am mainly looking for services located around here (both escorts and massage parlors.) I know that massage parlors are abundant in QC (to which I've been to Kremlin; I can say that it's actually quite good and on par with the middle range ones I've been to in other countries) but I haven't actually found a good one in Makati. I've tried to search a few times by browsing here (which led met to a few places that seem to not be as quality as the ones in QC) but ultimately no luck.

Anyways I'll look through the escort forum and see what I can find. Though if you have any suggestions as to where to go in Makati area that isn't so sketchy and has higher quality women it would be much appreciated. (Price isn't really a concern unless it's heading to past 50 k per night of fun).Since you're a long-time lurker you've seen that escorts and KTVs are very much under reported. I reckon there are several reasons for this including accessibility, appeal, price, location, yada yada. For most here the well-known locales are convenient, affordable, known, and safe. Your activity budget being roughly 17 times more puts you at a level far removed from most here; you're a Ferrari guy in a crowd of VW enthusiasts.



At the moment I'm probably going to check out Primero in BGC and see how that place is. Seeing as it's modeled after Aisan KTV's (the ones I primarily visit in Japan, Taiwan, and Thailand where I used to live / frequent) it should prove to be quite an experience. Though I realize that the girls might not be of the quality I'm looking for (I assume the girls that work in Primero will be girls who are hoping to end up in Shinjuku KTV's in Japan, which also left me unsatisfied.).I look forward to reading your report.


Just wanted to also add and clarify my last post (seems like editing isn't allowed here.).I think you're allowed up to an hour after posting to edit.


I don't mind paying for higher priced escorts / women if I know they are quality, but my point was that if I am going to pay 50 k a night, I might as well go to countries outside the Philippines and to find them because I know for that I will get what I paid for (since I guess the industry flourishes more in other countries not only for the foreigners but for the locals as well? It's in the culture to go to KTV's for business meetings / after work in other Asian countries like Japan and Taiwan, so I guess it's more "developed" in other places.) So like I said, if such a woman appeared here I wouldn't mind paying similar prices (hot, educated woman who knows how to act as a proper escort going out, does not seem trashy / low class, etc.).The Philippines gets a lot of East Asian tourists and there are many Japanese- and Korean-styled clubs in Ermita and Malate. I've seen and chatted up the girls who work at these KTVs and they are young, gorgeous and fair-skinned. However, the KTVs I see often (near where I drink) have many customers entering but no customers leave with a girl. The places do have VIP rooms, so perhaps interaction is limited to on-site. At 3 am when the places close the girls file out and head off to cheap Filipino bars or go home. If they drink where I'm at they are texting on their mobiles incessantly. Certainly they're hot, and in some cases going to school, but I wouldn't say they are well-educated when I compare them to girls who attend the top 4 unis here.



However said activities being quite taxing on the wallet to do every week, I'd like to find cheaper alternatives, but so far what I've seen here (been to P. Burgos and Classmates and Kremlin Spa) pale in comparison to other places (like Thailand's Soy Cow Boi district) that fall in the same price range. The only place I have been satisfied with so far is Kremlin Spa, and even then it's nothing compared to Thailand's La Belle (It's on par with La Belle's lower end girls.) Also just FYI for the price I paid classmates I would imagined it would be a lot nicer.

I'm still going to check out other KTV-esque places and see (like Pegasus and other well known ones) and see, but like I said so far it's been disappointing for the past year (both service and quality).Seems to me Thailand is a better fit for you. Years ago I strongly favoured Thailand over the Philippines. Why? Because the Filipinas were more conversant in English I got to hear their tales of misery and misfortune. It was kind of depressing. This go is much better because I work the dating sites instead of hanging out in bars; sure, there are plenty of poor girls there too, but I can usually filter them out quickly. To their credit many aren't too underhanded; those looking for money almost immediately start off by discussing their problems. It's quite easy to end that conversation. If you do visit local places your FRs, whether reporting good, bad, or neutral are a value to the community. You may just find a gem that others would like to know about. If it's a dud it's often said here that FRs reporting disappointments are especially informative.



On another note, regarding the other forums, it seems like they aren't as active either (specifically talking about the Escort forum directed to me, it seems like it hasn't been updated recently aside from the recent 1 or 2 posts, others are months / years apart so I can't really get a good idea if the information still applies or not.)Yes, escorts get very few reports. For my own curiosity I dug into it a while ago and found a forum, comprised largely of Filipino customers, who post FRs. I posted a link in the Escorts section. What turned me off was the escorts' insistence that condoms be used. I understand the risks, and I appreciate their want to be safe, so I didn't pursue the matter. No need for me to schedule a meeting and then pull a fast one.



Also like I mentioned, it seems like the protocols here that apply to women in this industry are a bit different compared to other countries so I'm still unsure about how to go about handling the women here. (I assume the standards like don't bring them to the condo you live in, etc. Apply.) What I'm mostly confused about is how women here can seem so sketchy compared to other places, and conversations always lead to something about money for their family etc. I am also still confused as to where are appropriate places to take these women (do you just stay around the seedy areas like P. Burgos bars? I don't know).All the girls I meet come to my condo. I don't bother rushing off the malls and coffee shops. Reading other FRs I believe this puts me in the minority. Near, but not next to Burgos, are many 5-star hotels. A lot of guys use cheaper hotels.



Again, sorry if this post seems insulting, but I'm not hating on anyone or the Philippines; I'm just being blunt about my experiences here for the past year. I guess to be frank what I'm trying to say that in other countries, I'm satisfied with what I pay for both low and high prices, but it's been disappointing here so far, and that's why I'm looking to you guys to see if I can solve that problem.No need to apologise. The Philippines isn't for everyone. I hope you find what you're seeking, and I look forward to reading your FRs as you explore places that most here rarely visit.

OneIpole
04-17-15, 22:43
Yeah I found Tinder to be quite a useful resource. It's worth noting though that girls may have their age filter set below what your age is (as taken from your attached FB profile), so they just won't see you, even if you swipe right on them.

A good mix of P4 P, girls looking for a good night out and "soul mate searchers".A lot of the girls will not ask me for money but they want to come to my place and tell me they want to. My typical thing is to put 1,500 or 2,000 php on the table if we ended up banging one out. I will say to her sorry I wish I could take you to dinner (lunch whatever) but I am so busy. But at least let me get you some dinner so there is some money on the table for you to eat. Then bla bla I hope to see you soon.

How do you handle the girls from tinder (DIA) if you end up fucking?

Pip Jaeger
04-17-15, 22:44
All the girls I meet come to my condo. I don't bother rushing off the malls and coffee shops. Reading other FRs I believe this puts me in the minority. Near, but not next to Burgos, are many 5-star hotels. A lot of guys use cheaper hotels.Just to clarify I think the OP may have been concerned about bringing girls he meets elsewhere back to where he lives (which, incidentally, is seldom a problem) or having escorts come directly to him (can't comment as I've never used an escort service here in the PI's).

And yes, I think you are in the minority in the sense that you will have girls you've met online come directly to your condo for a first time meeting. Oth, I (and the majority of other mongers) prefer meeting them in a public place first. For me it's just another layer of protection, although it can often be time consuming waiting for a girl to show up.

OneIpole
04-17-15, 22:51
I been messing with tumbler (don't like it) but anyways. I am following "petitepinays" there. I just see a video of a girl I banged with big titties from burgous. She has been working there for at least 3 years and is still there. Its the club right next to Cubana on the right (same side of street), don't go downstairs just one over. She is there all the time. She is the one with the big titties, kind of blond hair. I think she gets a ton of barfines because of those titties. I fined her over a year ago and she actually rode me really fucking good! I dropped the load in her. She was not so happy but I was. The video calls her Amanda. The pic is her licking her nipple.

LuvAsianTang
04-18-15, 02:10
Just to clarify I think the OP may have been concerned about bringing girls he meets elsewhere back to where he lives (which, incidentally, is seldom a problem) or having escorts come directly to him (can't comment as I've never used an escort service here in the PI's).

And yes, I think you are in the minority in the sense that you will have girls you've met online come directly to your condo for a first time meeting. Oth, I (and the majority of other mongers) prefer meeting them in a public place first. For me it's just another layer of protection, although it can often be time consuming waiting for a girl to show up.I always tell them to let me know when they are almost there and tell them to wait for me at starbucks bo's or where ever so if they are late its they who are waiting not me. I always meet them with in 10 minutes of where I'm staying anyway.

LAT.

Fastpiston
04-18-15, 03:43
I always tell them to let me know when they are almost there and tell them to wait for me at starbucks bo's or where ever so if they are late its they who are waiting not me. I always meet them with in 10 minutes of where I'm staying anyway.

LAT.Agreed!

Also best not let the girls know where you live. They all have agendas and you do not know them.

Meet them in Starbucks and take them to a well established short time hotel like Sogo Hotel for exercise.

Sogo is designed for this and there are branches everywhere.

Some devious Filipinas have gone to a foreigner's condo and falsely blackmailed the foreigner to extract money.

It would be very difficult for such an accusation to hold at a Sogo Hotel!

Coolica
04-24-15, 10:33
Just to clarify I think the OP may have been concerned about bringing girls he meets elsewhere back to where he lives (which, incidentally, is seldom a problem) or having escorts come directly to him (can't comment as I've never used an escort service here in the PI's).

And yes, I think you are in the minority in the sense that you will have girls you've met online come directly to your condo for a first time meeting. Oth, I (and the majority of other mongers) prefer meeting them in a public place first. For me it's just another layer of protection, although it can often be time consuming waiting for a girl to show up.Actually yes that's pretty much what I'm concerned about. I mean the dangers of bringing random girls back is always a concern for me especially in the Philippines.

I don't ever bring girls back to where I live unless it's a non-working girl (as in a girl I met randomly on the street) and that's what I've done in other countries. However here I'm concerned about doing that and the last escort I met with here I booked a hotel for a night to meet at (which was really a huge waste of money, so disappointing).

When I do hire escorts in other countries, it usually entails going out for drinks, having dinner and a fun night out, etc. I suppose that's what happens here when I hire one of the higher end escorts that come with a 50 k price tag. However regarding girls from KTV's in other countries, when I took them home it was always to a hotel and not where I live. I just thought that maybe I'm being too protective with regards to that and it would honestly not eat up my wallet if I did that. I never took a girl from one of those girly bars home in the Philippines, so does that mean if you pay the bar fine you go straight to your room / condo / whatever and fuck? I have no idea and I am a little worried about bar fining girls here (health safety reasons mostly.).

Regarding escorts though, I do see a lot of hot lookers who seem to be just registered on those freelance sites, but they are actually freelance (they just put up their "resumes" on there to find clients) and again I'm not sure if their pictures are legit or not (save the really obvious too hot to not be Photoshopped and not even Filipina looking photos.).

GoodEnough
04-30-15, 15:52
I have a friend who is staying at the Herald Suites Hotel on Chino Robles and I met him here for a drink this evening. The hotel has a largely Japanese clientele and is virtually surrounded by Japanese restaurants and so, after bidding my friend good night and giving him the chance to recover from jet lag, we walked across the street to the restaurant area called "Little Tokyo" where I hadn't eaten in years. There are probably more than a dozen smallish restaurants adjacent to each other and each seems to specialize in a different aspect of Japanese cuisine. The outdoor square was crowded with customers, Japanese, gaijin and Filipino and it everyone appeared to be having a good time. We picked a restaurant on the far side of the square and the food and service were excellent. The total bill for the two of us, including the Kirin beer and four dishes was Php1,020 or about $22, which I thought was an excellent value.

Though I normally use Uber cars for transport around the city, the distance from Little Tokyo to the Fairmont is only slightly more than a kilometer, so we decided just to take a taxi, except there were no available taxis. It was then I remembered the Grab Taxi app on my phone and decided to try it. I don't think I've used that service more than two times prior to this evening and it had been quite a while. It worked perfectly and the taxi arrived within 5 minutes, and ten minutes later we were back in the hotel. The service offers some level of protection since it provides the name of the driver and the plate number of the car, both prior to the trip and later on the receipt sent by email within minutes of having completed the trip. The extra charge for the service was Php70, which was quite reasonable given the dearth of taxis plying the street for fares.

GE.

Member #4387
04-30-15, 18:32
By no means do you have to order a prebooked taxi / driver / hotelcar whatever but the strongpoint is they wait for you so no lines. I hate lines so I pay to avoid certain lines. Yes it is a bit costly compared to a metered one and I will never teach my children to go the easy way without having the money for it themself. I choose the easy way beeing thaught by my father to rather take the bus than a taxi. Well after I got my own moneyi like to keep it simple in a lux way. If you drive a Range Rover or a small Fiesta from one of the terminals in Manila you qre still going to get stucked in the same traffic. A Fiestas more convenient as it manouvers more easily to the desiganted place. Hell I am starting to think I will buy a moped take me around town with a designated driver and the bag (s) beeing delivered my hotel later by taxi. I am fed up by the arrivals and lately I could not from many reasons foordinate those with arrivals early early morning 5 am ish or late late 10 pm ish. No I had to be stucked with approx 4 pm or 6:25 pm arrivals. So irritating.

GoodEnough
05-01-15, 00:08
Over the years that I've lived here, and traveled from Davao to Manila, my airport transport modus operandi has changed dramatically. As the airport becomes ever less efficient and chaotic my preferences have evolved from seeking the less expensive, and most time consuming alternative to the most expensive and most efficient. So, I've gone from taking coupon taxis, then Uber cars and finally to prearranged hotel cars.

Over the past year or so, when I exit Terminal 3, I routinely witness a huge line of people waiting for coupon taxis that simply aren't there, so I eliminated that option quite a while ago. It seemed for a while that Uber would be a viable alternative and indeed for a while it was. But the automobile congestion is intense and therefore the wait for even a nearby Uber car can be extensive since even nearby cars must eventually slow to a torpid crawl when entering the airport. So finally, I've just resigned myself to prebooking hotel cars. Using this alternative, I'm met inside the terminal by a Fairmont Hotel representative who takes my bag and wheels it to a car that is invariably waiting right outside the terminal. It's wonderfully efficient but expensive: the inexorable consequence of the lack of effective public transportation and a poorly designed, wholly inadequate airport.

GE.

Shark San
05-01-15, 03:52
If you're flying into Terminal 3, there are a couple of options for transport aside from coupon taxis. The metered taxis are located at the far right end of the taxi zone. The lines are generally much less of an issue.

One relatively common trick (and I know I've read it on the forum) is to exit customs and go upstairs to the departure unloading zone, and catch a taxi that's dropping someone off. They aren't supposed to pick up passengers there, but hey, it's the PIs, and those guys are generally thrilled to get a round-trip fare out of the deal. Meanwhile, always always always tell the driver to take the Skyway and give him 20 pesos for the toll as soon as you get in the car. I cannot stress that enough. And depending upon where you are staying, tell the driver to get off at Buendia instead of EDSA. If you're staying at the Dusit or the InterContinental, EDSA makes sense. But for anyone staying up near Burgos on Makati Avenue, the Buendia route is much faster.

Finally, the GrabTaxi app has largely replaced Uber as the transport on demand in Metro Manila. And they will come to the airport. There's an extra 70 peso charge on top of the meter. We use GrabTaxi almost exclusively, and especially when out at Greenbelt or MOA where the taxi queues can be outrageous.

Terminal 1 is a disaster and you're probably better off hiring a driver or trying GrabTaxi.

Terminal 4 is even worse.

GoodEnough
05-01-15, 09:17
I agree with Shark San that it's critical to insist that the driver of whatever vehicle you're taking use the Skyway for Makati. I stay at the Fairmont so I always get off at the Buendia or the Makati exit, depending on where Waze tells me is faster that day. I still prefer Uber to Grab Taxi in most cases since taxis often don't smell very good and are often in poor condition, which is never the case with Uber cars. As to going upstairs to the Arrivals area, it's not for me. I'm old, don't want to walk dragging a heavy bag, and it's just too much of a hassle.

GE.

Jp Slicky
05-01-15, 12:41
But turn left out of the doors to the terminal and walk about 1/3 mile and catch a white taxi on the main road to the airport vehicle entrance.

WestCoast1
05-01-15, 12:50
But turn left out of the doors to the terminal and walk about 1/3 mileIf I didn't have luggage to drag, that would be the trick. Also consider there is often rain to walk thru.

GoodEnough
05-01-15, 13:25
If I didn't have luggage to drag, that would be the trick. Also consider there is often rain to walk thru.The older I get the more protective of my comfort I become, so walking to the road or schlepping upstairs to arrivals ain't for me. Not putting down those who do it, and if I were younger I might consider it. Today I took an UberX car to the international Terminal 3 departure area and the cost including skyway toll was, I think, Php202.

The Terminal 3 departure experience was not the most fun I've ever had but that's a subject perhaps for a future post.

GE.

Member #4387
05-02-15, 04:27
Taxiing out from New World Manila Bay to Ascott Makati made me arrive late for my 1 pm Ascott girl. Drivers mostly go straight out on the Roxas but this one droved some jammed inner roads instead before entering Roxas. Here the traffic was running smoothly so lost a good 30 min or so hardly not moving at all. I did not make a scene from it. 1 pm girl enjoys her window shopping I know but she could not help it mocking me beeing late.

Arrived 1:30 pm and my girl waited me infront of hotel entrance. She is a cheating girl so we can not typical go around together in the Glorietta area as she according to herself has to many eyes on her here. True or not I don't know but I have viewed some of her texts from her boyfriend and he seems to want to control her heavily. Well well it is her problem not mine. We popped inside Ascott, I checked in and we got down to business. This girl (almost 20 yo) likes it rough, so I donated some slappings and she wanted me to grab her well shaped tits and squeeze them hard all the time. We toured the hole apt fucking in all the possitions I could come up with. We collapsed finaly in bed and had a short break before going again. She is very horny this girl and comes out so load so it is almost embarresing. But again it is nice to be of some help and as long as neighbours up / downstairs and to the sides are fine I should be too. After a few hours she left for home leaving me with a huge grind on my face. I unwinded at Outback with an overcoocked salmon filet and a few Coronas.

Did not have any appointments for the rst of the night after all it was labour day, hehe. But little Skoggy wanted more so I texted a girl close by and a swift 40 minutes later she showed up. 9 pm girl is a very tiny spinner (21 yo). She is verbaly quite which I like very much but still she is a tiger in bed. Before starting the biz we ate some food at a relatively new place next to Ascotts entrance (german place). I am no gastronom so once again I chose the salmon (nicely done this time).

Back in the room I popped open a btl of redwine. I did forgot she don't drink alcohol so I emptied the btl while she blew me in the couch. After this we had anothe tour around the apt fucking. She can not be more than 35/40 kgs as I carried her around the place and it was not so heavy. Collapsed in bed I would believe around 11 pm or so and I woke up again around 9 am this very fine morning. She complained about my snoring and she beeing awake allready at 6 am. We had a morning pop and I send her on her way not so long time ago.

Tonight I have a fly in from Cebu comming to pay me a visit. So my only concern, beeing still relatively early, is will I have a visitor or two prior to her arrival. So many problems while on "vacation".

Member #4387
05-02-15, 13:01
Well I proudly mostly state my girls are clean and no worries there. Today this failed big time as I was sneaking in one Badoo meet up before my Cebu flyin girl arrival. Nice spinner from her pics and we did a short cam on cam as well through skype just to check eachother out. 30 min later she arrived here around 4 ish. We threw clothes off when inside room and got down to business. Then I smelled the rotten fishy smell many of us have experienced before. I even stack a finger inside her twat and OMG that was nasty shit. This was for sure not only due to bad hygenic standards. She claimed she showered upon her arrival so this was something else. A swift pussy walk around / inspection gave no good answers as I could see no outfloods, warts or anything odd outside. She admitted she met a few guys before and I adviced her to go to drugstore to buy some meds. So that was that. She was actually embarressed which I think is a good thing as she should be.

This was a not a question of using condoms or not as I would not stuck in there with a triple layer. I will put my money on a infection of some sort. Secundary I have experienced pinays sometimes need to be thaught how to realy wash their pussy. I have on rare occations watched they only shower off the outside of the pussy and not the inside. If they don't know how to wash properly ofcourse bacterias, swet, urin and other fluids will add up into a nasty mixture with the heat and all. Ohhh nasty shit. She was 23 yo so should know how to proper wash her twat.

WestCoast1
05-02-15, 15:00
Then I smelled the rotten fishy smell many of us have experienced before. I even stack a finger inside her twat and OMG that was nasty shit. This was for sure not only due to bad hygenic standards. She claimed she showered upon her arrival so this was something else. A swift pussy walk around / inspection gave no good answers as I could see no outfloods, warts or anything odd outside.SNIP!

Ohhh nasty shit. She was 23 yo so should know how to proper wash her twat.Who said ROMANCE IS DEAD?

Hahaha.

LuvAsianTang
05-02-15, 20:12
Well I proudly mostly state my girls are clean and no worries there. Today this failed big time as I was sneaking in one Badoo meet up before my Cebu flyin girl arrival. Nice spinner from her pics and we did a short cam on cam as well through skype just to check eachother out. 30 min later she arrived here around 4 ish. We threw clothes off when inside room and got down to business. Then I smelled the rotten fishy smell many of us have experienced before. I even stack a finger inside her twat and OMG that was nasty shit. This was for sure not only due to bad hygenic standards. She claimed she showered upon her arrival so this was something else. A swift pussy walk around / inspection gave no good answers as I could see no outfloods, warts or anything odd outside. She admitted she met a few guys before and I adviced her to go to drugstore to buy some meds. So that was that. She was actually embarressed which I think is a good thing as she should be.

This was a not a question of using condoms or not as I would not stuck in there with a triple layer. I will put my money on a infection of some sort. Secundary I have experienced pinays sometimes need to be thaught how to realy wash their pussy. I have on rare occations watched they only shower off the outside of the pussy and not the inside. If they don't know how to wash properly ofcourse bacterias, swet, urin and other fluids will add up into a nasty mixture with the heat and all. Ohhh nasty shit. She was 23 yo so should know how to proper wash her twat.There are many causes of talapia twat and not usually associated to lack of poor hygiene. Here is a full disclosure of the reasons.

http://www.mayoclinic.org/symptoms/vaginal-odor/basics/causes/sym-20050664

Just my 2 pesos L A T.

Nice Guy 99
05-03-15, 01:30
I have on rare occations watched they only shower off the outside of the pussy and not the inside. ... She was 23 yo so should know how to proper wash her twat.I certainly hope you don't advocate that they wash inside with soap. It's one of the worst things they can do. A light exterior wash with just a touch of soaps OK but interior cleaning should be limited a fresh water rise at the most.

Sammon
05-03-15, 04:38
I certainly hope you don't advocate that they wash inside with soap. It's one of the worst things they can do. A light exterior wash with just a touch of soaps OK but interior cleaning should be limited a fresh water rise at the most.So after planning your visit meticulously, getting in touch with girls, chatting etc you are ready for action.

Meeting and getting them to your room is easy. I always do the smell test before they even take the shower. Trick is simple. Start kissing on bed and get your hand inside her panty and put your finger inside. My method is to give just a hug and smell my finger in that position. Many girls get offended if they find out you are doing the smell test.

All girls take a shower and spruce themselves before coming to your room. So there should be no smell. If she has taken a long ride there will be slight sweaty smell. If there is a nauseating smell it definitely means there is something going on. If you detect this next problem how to get rid of her without hurting her feelings? After all she made the effort to be with you.

1. Never promise or make long term plans as to how long you both will be together before good sexual connection is made.

2. Have your excuses ready if for one reason or the other you decide she is not worth keeping.

3. I always compensate even if I did not have sex with her.

4. Subtly letting her know that there seems to be a problem with her vagina is good but not easy. One girl flew off the handle when I mentioned it saying she did not have sex for more than a year and I am telling her that she is a prostitute.

5. For me if the smell is a fail I loose interest right away and somehow need to get rid of her. But giving money helps.

Irrespective of what they say all girls want and have sex with locals often with no protection. So if they sleep around enough they get exposed to some kind of STD.

Fortunately majority of the girls I have been with have zero smell.

Member #4387
05-03-15, 04:39
I certainly hope you don't advocate that they wash inside with soap. It's one of the worst things they can do. A light exterior wash with just a touch of soaps OK but interior cleaning should be limited a fresh water rise at the most.No it is not like I tell them to use a Krcher high pressure washer with soap inside their twats. I just tell / ask the few girls I have ran into having this odd smell if they was the inside and / or how they do it and then I like to see if they rinse inside carefully with waters (3/4 girls comes to mind but over an extented period of time 10+ years it is not like this is a major problem in my book. Just felt the urge to mention it). It is just damn unsexy when it happens and some valuable time are beeing wasted. Just to add in my domestic GF uses herself some lactacyd products for interior and exterior washups.

Member #4387
05-03-15, 08:40
First there is no need to fly in a girl from Cebu while operating in Makati. It gives away a nice twist though to monerging I appreciates and bringing a girl away from her comfort zone makes her very loving and caring. Ofcourse flying in on a domestic Phil Air flight bound to arrive 7 pm was asking for delays. The plane arrived 8:25 pm so a bit late and I managed to get drunk upon her arrival my hotel. She begged me to meet her at the airport but me having an almost fobiotic relationship travelling this city made me up for some real good excuses to get out of that one. I made it. I met her by entrance my hotel as that was the least I could do (I am agentleman afterall). I can not think of a worse moodbreaker to first have to travel to the airport and then to find out her flight was delayed (well I could probably used airportzoom to avoid the delaywait but even so, I enjoy much more sitting relaxed having my drinks).

I let her wash off of her travelling swet before mounting her. After this initial routine fuck we made it out to Chateau in Greenbelt. A fancy restaurant where we did some catching up and grabbed a bite and drinks. We stopped by Spicy Fingers on our way back to hotel and had some more drinks. I was happy to notice some obviously freelancers sitting around in mentioned place outside sitting area.

We stralled back to my hotel and the fun started. And what a night it was. Very horny 23 yo I could barely keep up with. When I was lying around more or less collapsed somewhere in the apartment she started to play with herself. This unstoppable sexy monster rode my dick to a breakingpoint many times screaming (modest), "I want you to come inside me", "I want to feel your cum inside me", "I want your baby" etc etc. Well today this is no danger since I am snipped but I still like to see my sperm on a females skin somewhere or see my small warriors (dead no) drooling from her mouth. I keep this a secret to most girls as in a test if I happens to cum inside someones twat, will there be any aftermath claims (happened one time allready).

After this incredible night and a noon fuck it was time for goodbyes and the hotelcar took her to the airport. Yes I did reimburse her ticketcosts (that was the deal to begin with). I also gifted her a few blue ones on the side.

Tonight I have managed to get a hold of another cabinworking girl. Phil Airlines. She will come for a date but has not promised anything else than that by now. But if this night ends with a date and no pussy I have a prewarned pukie not far away I can give a ring as in "hey sweetie, I maybe have free time tonight around 10/11 pm, hope you are not busy".

Hutsori
05-03-15, 17:01
No it is not like I tell them to use a Krcher high pressure washer with soap inside their twats. I just tell / ask the few girls I have ran into having this odd smell if they was the inside and / or how they do it and then I like to see if they rinse inside carefully with waters (3/4 girls comes to mind but over an extented period of time 10+ years it is not like this is a major problem in my book. Just felt the urge to mention it). It is just damn unsexy when it happens and some valuable time are beeing wasted. Just to add in my domestic GF uses herself some lactacyd products for interior and exterior washups.I've seen some girls who do not know how to wipe correctly. Going from back to front is a good way to introduce faeces into her vag and give herself a UTI. Some girls overdo it with the douches and this will mess up her pH; when that's out whack then the opportunistic bugs flourish. Likely culprit is bacterial vaginosis. Another cause is trichomoniasis; it's asymptomatic in men typically but causes a malodorous minge.

Member #4387
05-05-15, 10:14
Dated a cabincrew girl Sunday at 6 pm. She showed up at 5 pm. She was all that a man (me) can dream of. Pale skinned, tall, well articulated, well educated, cheerful but I know my way around dating these days so I noticed to bed this woman on a first date would be practicaly impossible allready from the start. This did not mean I gave in in any way. I could see she realy liked me so I played my cards as good as I possible could as in no dirty remarks or some hints towards the bedding that I would realy like to happen. A tough one so to speak. I guess I knew this from before and I tried in my best ways to tell her partly true things that I frequently fly in and out of here but never stay long time. There were ofcourse so many things I could not let her into. In a cheerful way I told her we better be effective.

At one point after dinner I thought I broke her code as she wanted to join me in my room. Little Skoggy came alive but soon he was to be dissapointed. This girl was on a constant red hot line to her parents back home and had her father closely watch our date developments (according to her he was a former police and army officer now worked as some high rank security senior at her airline). No wonder he took good care of her daughter. It is not that I am a [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) but after recent years success the lack of sexual play was kind of a let down. Well well I can't remember last time I did have a girl inside my room without recieving some action so I guess this is life. Towards the end we did some swift kissing and I send her on her way back (she had to be home by 9 pm). We agreed to meet up again and I think I might want to do that as she was such a spinner. And it does not hurt missing an instant fuck every now and then.

My girl on call was ready to show up on a short notice so everything worked out just fine after all.

Member #4387
05-06-15, 08:54
Monday morning overnighter finaly left at noonish and I managed to get in some "me time". Just browsing around Glorietta4 looking for potential "victims". In the Lacoste accessorie store, Glorietta 4, ground FL, I saw a cutie working and dived inside pretending I was interested in some bags. Without until this day knowing her age I would think she would be in early thirties. I hereby admit it would be fun doing someone above 25 yo for a change. Well the cabingirl was above 25 yo but I was not able to do her yet. As my fake fb account is working to well I did have to draw the line at a certain age this trip and surprisingly I chose 25. There is simply to many possible meet ups so atleast this narrows the numbers down a bit. Left the Lacoste store with our numbers exchanged and she would love to meet up with meet up with me this coming weekend. Well well.

Went back hotel and made ready for 3 pm girl arrival and so the Monday finished with another 2 appointments by 7 pm and 11 pm (overnighter).

Overnighter are in most cases screened well through previous short time encounters and from them I pick out who would be nice to share the bed with. That means a girl who has a willingly attitude towards our hobby with very few limitations.

Tuesday rized and overnighter went home around noon. Had a busy day ahead of me with a 2, 4, 7 and 11 pm (duo) girls schedueled. The two first ones was pretty basics nubes to this game. Both 20 yo's and both with requirments papers in big brown envelopes. I guess it is this time of the year where they try getting jobs and / or enroll new academies. Well I am greatful they also are willing to have a pit stop by my place. 7 pm girl was a Badoo encounter (I tick someone in outside the box just to have a change). I did previously ask this 7 pm girl if she was a ladyboy. Which she declined ofcourse. Earlier this trip she was stucked in Kalibo missing her flight from a Boracay weekend but managed to get herself back into Makati Tuesday morning. She arrived and we went to my room. I could see her hands was a bit male like but I've had girls like that before. I took the elbow trick (where males have straight arms, females tend to have some angel in their elbows, ok checked). She had a bit smokey voice and as a last check since I was not still fully convinced I told her about a LB encounter I did in BKK many years ago, where the LB, when caught, threatned me with a knife and I fought him off and got the police to collect him (assisted by hotels security staffs). I saw he / she got worried. I asked if we should start palying (as my final test) and then he / she went to the CR just to come back saying "oh I am so sorry I thought my period finished yesterday but there is still some blood"(a typical excuse for a LB who gets caught or are just about to be caught). I thought WTF, I am hungry anyways and we both went down to a nearby eatery and after dinner we split. I saw no need pimping the situation into any nasty stuffs and even if she might be a rightfully girl I can not dive into someones croutch beeing unsure. If she was a genuine girl well bad on me bcs she was by all means doable. When mongering for many years I will tab this out as an experience and since most of my girly interactions are hazzlefree some small hickups will eventually pops up. It is just the way the world is made.

11 pm duo arrived and we did a brief 2-3 hrs play incl drinking and laughing our way around into the wee hours. They left around 3-am ish and since I have become very used to having a girl beside me in the mornings. Not having this todays fine noon morning made me worried when my eyes opened. I saw an empty bed besides me and I start thinking, wtf have the girl left with all my belongings. I could not find my Ipad, Iphone and all my local girl pickup phones were as in vanished. I was hammered when collapsing into bed and after a while running around the apartment in mild panic I came to my senses and remembered I went to bed alone.

Sometimes beeing drunk I have a bad habit hiding stuffs (tablets, money, CC's etc). The obvious place to store such valuables would be the in room safe. Well not this guy. At times I do very stupid stuffs and one time in BKK a few years back I hid an considreable ammount of cash in drunken state and I was never able to find it. It can well happen some housekeeper found it and I believe the ammount was so big so it would take a good portion of moral to leave it behind. I will never know. I never found the cash. This must stop.

Today I had a duo over. Well initialy it was only one girl. But since she and a friend had been to Makati Med this fine morning for some x ray shootings I told her a friend is ok but she must be willing to play. She was so they got the thumbs up. My initial girl is slim and well tuned. As to her friend it would be a lie to use such terms. Short and chubby at best. But having my morning boner around 2 I can be unstoppable and thought why not fuck a femaled chubby hobbit. The created a nice pair of pussies at my bed and I fucked the hobbit first (actually great twat, thight and wet), then altered between those two in various possitions until I climaxed inside my initial girl.

Now it is just unwinding waiting for more duo play (prearranged this time) at 7 pm and a A+ friendly fuckfiesta girl at 11 pm.

I have lost track in how many girl I have nailed so far this trip but I will give out my best credit to all the girls. Not a single one has been late. Ok one girl changed her arrivaltime from 8 pm until 8:30 pm. But she did so 2 hours prior to arrival so I told her ok so it doesn't count. Worst examples has been a few girls almost arriving 1 HR early. But mostly they have been from on time to 15/20 min early. Thats what I call nice training. So beeing strict to this point as in not accepting latecommers have actualy made a difference.

FreebieFan
05-06-15, 10:38
ne noon morning made me worried when my eyel left with all my belongings. I could not find my Ipad, Iphone and all my local girl pickup phones were as in vanished. I was hammered when collapsing into bed and after a while running around the apartment in mild panic I came to my senses and remembered I went to bed alone.

Sometimes beeing drunk I have a bad habit hiding stuffs (tablets, money, CC's etc). The obvious place to store such valuables would be the in room safe.
.Reminds me of a time I drove home from a Burgos street / Sogo outing very drunk. I had my spare phone that had all the girls numbers on it with me, and didn't want to bring it into the house as the ball and chain was in the house. So I hid it. In the car.

Next morning I realised I didn't have the spare phone with me and went looking for it. Major shock when I see my car isn't in driveway. Asked the maid where the car was. She advised that the ball and chain was leaving to go to her home in Quezon province and had taken the car. What?

I went white for a while. Well whiter than normal.

What the maid didn't or couldn't properly say was that the ball and chain had taken the car to do some shopping and she returned 30 minutes later, then taking her hired car to Quezon province.

You could hear the sigh of relief coming from orifice I own.

Then of course I had to think where in the car I had actually hidden the phone.

There a sign in an LK Metro hotel that says " For guests wishing to have management open their safe after 1. 00 am there will be a 1,000 baht charge. Reason being so many guys get hammered, want to put their valuables away but have forgotten the combination.

BrainDrain
05-06-15, 23:42
Towards the end we did some swift kissing and I send her on her way back (she had to be home by 9 pm). We agreed to meet up again and I think I might want to do that as she was such a spinner. And it does not hurt missing an instant fuck every now and then.
ll.This is good, please consider to have a few girls like this in your pipeline. Another date and she will likely be yours.

Member #4387
05-08-15, 22:11
Got back to Norway today. I was supposed to stay Makati until Sunday and then head down to Jakarta for some nice girls. I split Thursday eve and made a swift reeboking into an Emirates flight late that eve, heading for home. For the first time I must say I have gone pussytired and all the phoneactivity the pinays are putting me through became so tiring at the end. I thought I never would say this but I did have to much pussy this trip. The final numbers are of no interest but 3/4 girls most days (and some of them duos) for 10 days or so made so tired so the thought of an early departure back home builded up in me allready on Wednesday. Atleast it gave me some plus points from my domestic GF.

Could I do something to lower the phoneactivity? Hell, yes ofcourse. I have tried to simply made arrangements as in a deal and switch off phones. But a phone off makes me loose the general picture and I could miss that little small piece of, for once, useful info. Especially when girls are on the way and new appointments are beeing agreed simultanesly. This trip it was simply to much so I become more mentally tired than actually worn out from all the fucking. If we add in quite some activity in Viber, messenger, Wechat, Badoo, Whatsapp, e mails I must have recieved what feels like a few thousands msgs of various sorts (and it is probably not far from the truth). I have only send a bare minimum straight to the points feedbacks and never replied those stupid "what are you doing now", "how are you today", "have you eaten your lunch", "I am hungry you have food", "I am allready in taxi", "I start preparing myself now" etc etc etc texts / msgs. Still far far to much. I did not answer maybe more than 2/3 calls on the hole trip hipefully train the girls into knowing I don't pick up calls. I don't like jibber jabber and that's what it all is realy. Atleast a text you can answer in relatively quite surroundings and you can invent some correct answers in your own tempo. I must come up with a better system next trip as my concerns written above takes away a lot of the fun and I also sometimes this trip got pure irritated. In an utopic world arranging a girl one text would do as in "you can come 8 pm to my hotel xxx, google it to get the adress, see you then", answer "yes ok".

Ah it was nice to vent this out. In a couple of days it is all forgotten. But lower the numbers of girls is one way to cope with the obvious. I became to greedy this time over a to long period of time so I can realy only blame myself. Another soulution is to get new pimpettes to handle all the bookings and communications. My two last pimpettes have simply run out of friends, family and classmates as I have fucked everyone I am interested in fucking. Just a few thoughts. And now to you guys out there asking for my pimpettes business you have to find your own pimpettes. Like I did. To be frank they werent actual pimpettes. They never got any money for each girl they provided me ex I donated them a larger sum of moneys when we sessioned than I usualy give out (I simply promised them to be repeat girls (a promise I to some extent have held). They were not use to this operation and so nubes towards how foreigners operate so I made them believe that "sharing is caring" for your friends as well and maybe others will have fun too. Thanks and good night.

WestCoast1
05-09-15, 00:18
I thought I never would say this but I did have to much pussy this trip.

SNIP

My two last pimpettes have simply run out of friends, family and classmates as I have fucked everyone I am interested in fucking.Haha KILLING ME HERE!

X Man
05-09-15, 03:18
Thanks for all the reports and hope you have a smooth flight.

I found that ignoring the "I'm on my way" text causes more trouble. "Why you ignore me" "you don't want to see me" etc, etc. Much better to tell her that you are looking forward to seeing her.

I tried to tell a few that I was low batt so don't send too many texts. I don't have a charger with me. It didn't work. Typically, I'd get three quick texts immediately, "what you mean" "wher ru" "you don't want to see me?


SNIP never replied those stupid "what are you doing now", "how are you today", "have you eaten your lunch", "I am hungry you have food", "I am allready in taxi", "I start preparing myself now" etc SNIP

Slippery
05-09-15, 03:28
Haha KILLING ME HERE!I had to resort to an ex GF's younger sister.

SportMongr
05-09-15, 07:33
So after planning your visit

4. Subtly letting her know that there seems to be a problem with her vagina is good but not easy. One girl flew off the handle when I mentioned it saying she did not have sex for more than a year and I am telling her that she is a prostitute.

5. For me if the smell is a fail I loose interest right away and somehow need to get rid of her. But giving money helps.

Irrespective of what they say all girls want and have sex with locals often with no protection. So if they sleep around enough they get exposed to some kind of STD.

Fortunately majority of the girls I have been with have zero smell.I seem to get hit with the smelly p or SP quite often. I love your rules 1-3. But #4 is a sure shot way to start a bad scene. The last time this happened to me I tried my best to say. " Babe I think you might need to see a Dr. ? . With the caring, concerned look and voice. This doesn't work. They say why? I'm fine? Whats's wrong? They know what's wrong most of the time it seems like they don't think you can clearly tell them. Well in this instance the chica pushed me from the caring nice messenger to the blunt, take care of your vagina. And please leave because you are not stinking up my sheets any more.

So in all. Get her out of your place with a I'm feeling sick or have to wake up in 3-4 hrs to go see a business client. Maybe text her to get a gym check up before she ever plans to meet you again.

Undercoverh
05-09-15, 18:53
This post is for guys who never been to Makati, on Burgos St. If you have never been here, don't waste your time. I am sitting in my hotel room in Makati after two nights hanging out in the bars here. First, the bar fine is around 3,000 P plus what you have to pay to the girl, which is another 2,500 to 4,000 P for average looking filipinas. Are these bars out their F_ken mind! And the endless street walkers asking for 2,500 short time, but then thet come down to 1500 or 2000. In addition, every few step, some guy will bug you to buy some fake hard on pills. Why there are any foreigners here is beyond me. My advice to newbies is to head to Angeles City and find tons of bars and way cheaper prices, atleast 50 percent cheaper. Or, stick to Thailand at soi cowboy, Nana, or better yet Pattaya, all of which are more fun and cheaper then Makati. If you have to be in Manila and need a girl at a good price try Flight 168 at Air Force One near the airport or EDSA entertainment bars across from the Hertiage Hotel. Many years ago, the prices here were ok, now it is just stupid what they are asking. Sad to write, but it is the foreigners who have driven up the price and way over pay for sex in Asian at tourist traps like Makati. You will not find any Filipino man ther pay these crazy prices. I found a nice little city in the Philippines where all night cost 1000 P with cute young, over 18, Filipino girls. I am sure if I posted information about the city, next year the price will be double because of the foreigners who would go there and overpay for sex. Nevertheless, if you have been to Makati and like the prices and average looking girls, then enjoy and I have no right to tell you how to spend your money.

Member #4698
05-09-15, 21:27
Hi Guys, I just got back from my Spring 2015 Trip 10 days ago. It was fucking amazing. I met so many great gals everywhere I went and had a blast. Now, for my first post since returning home, I want to talk about why I like Makati and Burgos Street. I believe it is a worthy subject. I will try to post my trip report at a later date. It will be a daunting task to write it up as I was travelling for 7 weeks and visited Jakarta, BKK, Phnom Penh, Macau, Makati and Palawan.

AC bar girls are universally cheaper than Burgos bar girls and while LT is still the default AC time, this is slowly changing, sadly. Meanwhile on Burgos, the time frame will be assumed to be ST unless otherwise agreed upon, but I have found that on a 2nd or 3rd date my Burgos Bar girls freely give me a modified ST (3 or 4 hours) and basically they stay as long as I want them too with no additional charge unless they stay overnight. I do feed them. LOL. It should be noted, however, that the Burgos barfine includes the lady drinks. For example: in Bottoms: the barfine is 3900p OR 10 lady drinks (Tequila or Jack and Coke) or any combination there of. So if you order your girl 10 Tequilas, you pay 3900p barfine nothing more and the 10 lady drinks are free. If you order your girl 1 Tequila, you pay 3900p barfine and the 1 lady drink is free. And if you order your girl 11 Tequilas, you pay 3900p barfine plus 390p for the 11th lady drink. Meanwhile your tab grows becasue you are charged for YOUR drinks. In Plan "B" it is the same billing structure only the barfine is 2900p I believe so 10 lady drinks adds up to 290 each. You only pay for the lady drinks if you do not barfine the girl. Also the girl's sexual service charge is loosely pinned to the barfine. In other words, girls in Bottoms will want 4000p for ST. Girls in Plan "B" will want 3000p. And girls in Rogues will want 2000p. Roughly.

Now IMHO the quality of AC girls is not as high as Burgos girls and I firmly believe, that on average, the current attitude of Burgos Bar girls is superior to that of AC girls. There are individual exceptions to this, obviously. What I am saying is strictly anecdotal based on my experiences in 2013,2014, and recently in April 2015. I would add that while the overall quality of the Filipina bar girls is not high, welcome to the Philippines, there are places in Metro Manila where one can find more better looking girls, but I think you better be willing to spend 12,000 p or more, if you want to have a good time at Air Force One, Universe Girl Club, or La La Land. You can also try certain popular clubs like Gramercy 71 and Time. But they are not cheap to navigate successfully either.

In any case, my point is that I have consistently found real gems in the better Burgos bars like Bottoms and Plan "B" . During the last 2 years that I visited both Makati and AC, I ended up enjoying my Burgos Bar girls' company and their sexual congress more than the AC girls that I spent time with. That is why I skipped AC on my 2015 spring trip and concentrated all my Philippine punting time in Makati. I was not disappointed with my decision because, once again, in Makati, I found three Burgos Bar girls that were so much fun to be with and more sexually playful and uninhibited than most of my other girls on this trip. In fact of all the destinations that I visited on my 2015 trip, only Jakarta had consistently better looking and better performing girls and boy were they expensive! My Jakarta girls. LOL. I also enjoyed 2 of my 3 Makati girls more than most my BKK girls this trip! And I shagged a lot of Thai girls this trip as I was in BKK for 4 weeks, Jakarta 10 days, and Makati 8 days.

My next trip will be in the Fall. I originally planned just 3 cities: Manila, Pattaya, and BKK, but one of my Jakarta girls has convinced me to visit her again so I will be cutting my Pattaya time in half so I can hang out in Jakarta for a week. I will be staying in Makati again on the way in and I look forward to hooking up with my 2 Burgos girls from my spring trip. Then on the way out I will be staying in Pasay for a few days so I can go by the EDSA Entertainment Complex and maybe visit one of the Pasay international bars. Who knows? Anyway, I am not planning on visiting AC again for the foreseeable future and I don't think I am going to miss a thing, although I do like Subic, but I will talk about Subic in the appropriate thread.

Member #4566
05-11-15, 05:38
What turned me off was the escorts' insistence that condoms be used. How do you rationalize having multiple casual sexual partners and you do not use condoms?

Member #4698
05-11-15, 13:21
How do you rationalize having multiple casual sexual partners and you do not use condoms?Careful selection of girls and fortunately not catching anything thus far. It is basically the same selection process I use as deciding whether I am going to go down on a girl or not (DATY). I do not go down on every girl and likewise I do not bareback every girl I have.

I would estimate my barebacking ratio is around 30% of the girls I shag. I tend to like my bareback girls more than my cover up girls, all else being equal, and am more likely to repeat many times with the barebackers assuming I like them. No matter what, however, if a girl wants a condom ride, I give it to her. It is only on those occasions when I want to bareback her and she is ok with it that we do it that way. I always give the girl a veto vote and I always keep a condom handy in a drawer near the bed.

For the times when I do cover up, my condom of choice is Sagami 0. 02 or Okamoto 0. 02 polyurethane. While in Makati recently I was shagging one of my girls one night and I had an orgasm but I managed to stay semi hard inside her pussy. I was having such a great ride that I didn't want it to end. When I finally pulled out my girl was surprised to find out that the large Okamoto had come off inside her pussy. I had been unaware of the situation while riding her. Her main concern was she did not want to get pregnant again. LOL. After that we barebacked.

I just bought a 3 pack of Sagami 0. 01 from Amazon and I look forward to trying them out. The polyurethane is the next best thing to bareback. I will never use latex again if I can help it.

X Man
05-11-15, 14:42
02 has been my fallback for a long time. You shouldn't be using the rubbers available in the Philippines. Unless you like blowing up balloons like some clown.


C

SNIP my condom of choice is Sagami 0. 02 or Okamoto 0. 02 polyurethane. .

Hutsori
05-11-15, 15:40
How do you rationalize having multiple casual sexual partners and you do not use condoms?I don't rationalise. I roll the dice. And to mix metaphors, I play the cards dealt me.

Member #4387
05-11-15, 19:14
Last Makati stay I had a quite funny situation happened to one spinner. This girl was an overnighter and she was specificaly asking questions regarding if I met other girls. I told her no way but the truth was I did slip one girl out of my room before a let this one in with only minutes to spare. I just managed some quick eveidence removals incl swiping of the bathroomfloors black hair and checking later that wasnt to good either, stretch the bedcovers and turning one pillow with obvious make up on around etc. I heard no complaints so maybe her vision wasnt tip top. While she did some bathroom routine I also discovered one wineglass in the kitchen with nice red lipstick on it from my previous visitor. Oh so much to remember.

We did our business around the apartment incl the bed. Then we went to sleep.

Suddenly during the night I wake up from a terrible scream. I quickly switched on the light to see what this was all about. And there it was. My prior visitors one ear garnish and its needle sharp pin. That created a hell of a scene and a some great make up sex in the morning where I felt she forgave me. I stood by my excuse it must have been a sloppy housekeeper loosing it while making the bed (even if that is a laim and far from the truth excuse). If she believed it or not I don't know. To good she did not turn her pillow around and saw all the make up on the pillow covers.

Member #4566
05-12-15, 02:46
I don't rationalise. I roll the dice. And to mix metaphors, I play the cards dealt me.The metaphors are not so mixed up in that both dice and cards are aleatory. However your comment seems to address only one side of the issue. You accept putting yourself at risk of getting an STD. That is fine for you but what about transmitting any STD that you may have acquired to a partner? Then, too there is the matter of bastardy. How do you rationalize these two other issues with your practice of unsafe sex with NSA partners?

Hutsori
05-12-15, 07:58
However your comment seems to address only one side of the issue. You accept putting yourself at risk of getting an STD. That is fine for you but what about transmitting any STD that you may have acquired to a partner? Then, too there is the matter of bastardy. How do you rationalize these two other issues with your practice of unsafe sex with NSA partners?By choosing to forego condoms my partners have made that decision for themselves; some do use other methods of birth control. People choose to perform a risk analysis, some done throughly and others done not at all, and accept the level of risk they are comfortable with.

Member #4566
05-13-15, 07:00
By choosing to forego condoms my partners have made that decision for themselves; some do use other methods of birth control. People choose to perform a risk analysis, some done throughly and others done not at all, and accept the level of risk they are comfortable with.Risk and risk analysis are important matters but the threshold issue is one of duty. When you have unprotected NSA sex what is your duty to your partner, her future partners, and your future partners? Then, too, do you have any duty vis a vis bastardy?

Double Shooter
05-13-15, 07:31
Risk and risk analysis are important matters but the threshold issue is one of duty. When you have unprotected NSA sex what is your duty to your partner, her future partners, and your future partners? Then, too, do you have any duty vis a vis bastardy?Doubtless an interesting debate that belongs in the Safe Sex thread.

Member #4566
05-15-15, 01:00
Doubtless an interesting debate that belongs in the Safe Sex thread.Yes, you are right and I am wrong. My colleague Hutsori is invited to respond in the safe sex thread. BTW, I am not debating. I offer a thousand pardons.

Cool Traveler
05-16-15, 19:06
Situations like this, lie like hell. Blame everybody else, except yourself. Well even blame the girl that is with you. Just say, isn't that yours? If it is not your's how the hell did it get into the bed?

I mean, we are already at the bottom of the list in St. Peter's appointment book. So, just go for the whole 9 yard.


Last Makati stay I had a quite funny situation happened to one spinner. This girl was an overnighter and she was specificaly asking questions regarding if I met other girls. I told her no way but the truth was I did slip one girl out of my room before a let this one in with only minutes to spare. I just managed some quick eveidence removals incl swiping of the bathroomfloors black hair and checking later that wasnt to good either, stretch the bedcovers and turning one pillow with obvious make up on around etc. I heard no complaints so maybe her vision wasnt tip top. While she did some bathroom routine I also discovered one wineglass in the kitchen with nice red lipstick on it from my previous visitor. Oh so much to remember.

We did our business around the apartment incl the bed. Then we went to sleep.

Suddenly during the night I wake up from a terrible scream. I quickly switched on the light to see what this was all about. And there it was. My prior visitors one ear garnish and its needle sharp pin. That created a hell of a scene and a some great make up sex in the morning where I felt she forgave me. I stood by my excuse it must have been a sloppy housekeeper loosing it while making the bed (even if that is a laim and far from the truth excuse). If she believed it or not I don't know. To good she did not turn her pillow around and saw all the make up on the pillow covers.

Member #4387
05-16-15, 23:05
I laugh thinking about this happening my last Makati stay. A girl I have done before promised me to bring a friend willing to recieve some small norwegian wood. This fine evening I happened to release a girl a bit late as I had to make Gloriettas Mark&Spensers (MS) before mall closed at 9 pm so I could stock up with wines and the lot prior to my 9:30 pm arrival (girl with friend).

Didn't speak so much about how the friend looked but my criterias was well known (sexy, big boobies no worries, non fat, preferably tall etc etc). Except from that I did no screening and left the decission with my repeat girl. To my criterias my repeat girl told me no worries.

Approx 15 min to 9 pm I got a text the duo was allready outside hotelentrance and wondered if they could come to my room. I told them just wait and I come pick them up. I was in a hurry to make the MS so I brought an extra keycard for the girls. Went downstairs, explained to my repeatgirl they just go inside my room and wait there while I did some shopping. She was alone and explained her friend just had to stop by a Mercury store but she would arrive shortly. Ok I said and rushed inside Glorietta.

Did my biz and returned all aroused by having 2 girls waiting in my room for some adultplay.

The first thought that hit me when I saw my repeatgirls friend was "she looks like a hobbit". She was very short, bubbly and not sexy at all. I give her credits for big boobs though so that part of the deal was ok. So guys once again a lesson learned; never trust a "friend" describing her own classmates. While taking a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) and popped a gel pk of Kamagra I thought for a small moment to ditch the hobbit. On the other hand I thought wtf this could be fun and to be frank I am more than happy with the girls I fuck in general so why not take one for the hobbit team as well.

The fat one was giggely and cheerful, I give her that, and created an aura of good moods in the room. The lack of sexyness she bonused with beeing dirty and extroverted (personalitywice). We did have a few sips of the wine and went down to business. In short I did not give my repeatgirl a hard time bringing wrong girl. In the future, if I choose to meet the repeatgirl, I will for sure ask her to provide pics (I usually do this ofcourse but from many reasons this failed this time). I have very little experience in fucking bubbly girls but she was tighter downstairs than my slimfit repeatgirl (also kind of smallish). Here are some pics.

Dg8787
05-16-15, 23:27
That girl is not fat but a chub. Last few chubs I had, had tighter and meatier pussies. What a sensation when the head of my Richard would hit some meat at the bottom of my down stroke! Heck I couldn't last as long. As a wise man told me once, "never turn the girl down, just turn her over".

OneIpole
05-19-15, 07:40
Hi Guys, I just got back from my Spring 2015 Trip 10 days ago. It was fucking amazing. I met so many great gals everywhere I went and had a blast. Now, for my first post since returning home, I want to talk about why I like Makati and Burgos Street. I believe it is a worthy subject. I will try to post my trip report at a later date. It will be a daunting task to write it up as I was travelling for 7 weeks and visited Jakarta, BKK, Phnom Penh, Macau, Makati and Palawan.

AC bar girls are universally cheaper than Burgos bar girls and while LT is still the default AC time, this is slowly changing, sadly. Meanwhile on Burgos, the time frame will be assumed to be ST unless otherwise agreed upon, but I have found that on a 2nd or 3rd date my Burgos Bar girls freely give me a modified ST (3 or 4 hours) and basically they stay as long as I want them too with no additional charge unless they stay overnight. I do feed them. LOL. It should be noted, however, that the Burgos barfine includes the lady drinks. For example: in Bottoms: the barfine is 3900p OR 10 lady drinks (Tequila or Jack and Coke) or any combination there of. So if you order your girl 10 Tequilas, you pay 3900p barfine nothing more and the 10 lady drinks are free. If you order your girl 1 Tequila, you pay 3900p barfine and the 1 lady drink is free. And if you order your girl 11 Tequilas, you pay 3900p barfine plus 390p for the 11th lady drink. Meanwhile your tab grows becasue you are charged for YOUR drinks. In Plan "B" it is the same billing structure only the barfine is 2900p I believe so 10 lady drinks adds up to 290 each. You only pay for the lady drinks if you do not barfine the girl. Also the girl's sexual service charge is loosely pinned to the barfine. In other words, girls in Bottoms will want 4000p for ST. Girls in Plan "B" will want 3000p. And girls in Rogues will want 2000p. Roughly.

Now IMHO the quality of AC girls is not as high as Burgos girls and I firmly believe, that on average, the current attitude of Burgos Bar girls is superior to that of AC girls. There are individual exceptions to this, obviously. What I am saying is strictly anecdotal based on my experiences in 2013,2014, and recently in April 2015. I would add that while the overall quality of the Filipina bar girls is not high, welcome to the Philippines, there are places in Metro Manila where one can find more better looking girls, but I think you better be willing to spend 12,000 p or more, if you want to have a good time at Air Force One, Universe Girl Club, or La La Land. You can also try certain popular clubs like Gramercy 71 and Time. But they are not cheap to navigate successfully either.

In any case, my point is that I have consistently found real gems in the better Burgos bars like Bottoms and Plan "B" . During the last 2 years that I visited both Makati and AC, I ended up enjoying my Burgos Bar girls' company and their sexual congress more than the AC girls that I spent time with. That is why I skipped AC on my 2015 spring trip and concentrated all my Philippine punting time in Makati. I was not disappointed with my decision because, once again, in Makati, I found three Burgos Bar girls that were so much fun to be with and more sexually playful and uninhibited than most of my other girls on this trip. In fact of all the destinations that I visited on my 2015 trip, only Jakarta had consistently better looking and better performing girls and boy were they expensive! My Jakarta girls. LOL. I also enjoyed 2 of my 3 Makati girls more than most my BKK girls this trip! And I shagged a lot of Thai girls this trip as I was in BKK for 4 weeks, Jakarta 10 days, and Makati 8 days.

My next trip will be in the Fall. I originally planned just 3 cities: Manila, Pattaya, and BKK, but one of my Jakarta girls has convinced me to visit her again so I will be cutting my Pattaya time in half so I can hang out in Jakarta for a week. I will be staying in Makati again on the way in and I look forward to hooking up with my 2 Burgos girls from my spring trip. Then on the way out I will be staying in Pasay for a few days so I can go by the EDSA Entertainment Complex and maybe visit one of the Pasay international bars. Who knows? Anyway, I am not planning on visiting AC again for the foreseeable future and I don't think I am going to miss a thing, although I do like Subic, but I will talk about Subic in the appropriate thread.Sir,

Not to argue but that is not how the bar fines work. I have never heard of that or experienced it. On Burgous in Plan be you can easily get bar fine 2,600.00. There is no free lady drinks and there is no buying 10 lady drinks? I am not sure what you are referring to or trying to explain (its very confusing what you are saying). On almost all the bars in burgous they have a bar fine from 1,500.00 to 3,900.00 for the tourist spots. There is no limit on how many drinks you buy. Maybe I have heard you need to buy at least one. But, for my three years living here I have never had to purchase a certain limit of drinks. (I actually do not know what you are trying to say, its very confusing! Are you trying to compare the cost of a drink to the cost f a bar fine?

Easy example: My opinion Plan be has the hottest girls. I have only paid a fine of 2,600 for the girl ever. They may ask for more, but I just give them a strange look and say its 2,600.0 (I have never got under 2,600.). I usually have at least one drink and get the girl at least one drink while I talk to her a bit. But if I'm good I'm done, no more drinks I just pay the bar fine. When I get a girl the most I ever pay is 2,000.00 for her service. If she wants more good luck to her and I move on. I have maybe been turned down by one girl here and there but 98% agree.

My opinion is never go to moulin or lucky charm or bottoms. They are for tourist only. They are smoking crack to think I would pay 3,900. For a bar fine! They do not even have the best girls! And then they work you like a mother fucker for drinks! Mama, waitress, massage girls. FUCK its a nasty system in those places. (bottoms is OK if you just sit-they don't fuck with you, but call a girl and its open warfare! I don't like those places at all and even the other bar owners do not go in there because they have to watch their bill and get treated like a tourist when they own a bar on the strip!

Plan be is my favorite with hotspot and the way over / under it. Hottest girls fair bar fine. Crazy horse is the best pricing by far with a 1,500.00 bar fine- but selection is not good.

Tickles will work you over to but fuck those girls are nasty! I have done everything in that bar except band a girl in her ass!

Anyways, please elabaraote on what you are trying to say, I just don't understand what it is? (not being a ass, I really don't get it).

OneIpole
05-19-15, 08:10
This post is for guys who never been to Makati, on Burgos St. If you have never been here, don't waste your time. I am sitting in my hotel room in Makati after two nights hanging out in the bars here. First, the bar fine is around 3,000 P plus what you have to pay to the girl, which is another 2,500 to 4,000 P for average looking filipinas. Are these bars out their F_ken mind! And the endless street walkers asking for 2,500 short time, but then thet come down to 1500 or 2000. In addition, every few step, some guy will bug you to buy some fake hard on pills. Why there are any foreigners here is beyond me. My advice to newbies is to head to Angeles City and find tons of bars and way cheaper prices, atleast 50 percent cheaper. Or, stick to Thailand at soi cowboy, Nana, or better yet Pattaya, all of which are more fun and cheaper then Makati. If you have to be in Manila and need a girl at a good price try Flight 168 at Air Force One near the airport or EDSA entertainment bars across from the Hertiage Hotel. Many years ago, the prices here were ok, now it is just stupid what they are asking. Sad to write, but it is the foreigners who have driven up the price and way over pay for sex in Asian at tourist traps like Makati. You will not find any Filipino man ther pay these crazy prices. I found a nice little city in the Philippines where all night cost 1000 P with cute young, over 18, Filipino girls. I am sure if I posted information about the city, next year the price will be double because of the foreigners who would go there and overpay for sex. Nevertheless, if you have been to Makati and like the prices and average looking girls, then enjoy and I have no right to tell you how to spend your money.First of all you have to understand how to handle the place and carry-your self. I love Burgous, but have lived here for three years but have learned from this board and understand how to use common sense.

1.) Read this board. Not from new guys but from the pros some guys have been here for years!

2.) Common sense: Never put a fucking pill in your mouth from some idiot on the street!! You would have to be fucking brain dead to do that dumb shit! These fucking guys are living in the street but they have real Viagra?? Come on no one is that stupid (well, maybe could be that drunk)!! THE PILLS ARE FAKE! ALL OF THEM!! THEY ARE FUCKING BULLSHIT MIXED WITH BULLSHIT!! JUST SAY NO!! P.S. Any bullshit for sale on the street can be had at Green hills for a better price. Don't buy shit on the street and if you think its real my god-- there is one born every minute!

3.) There are all kinds of girls from super hot to fat. You need to know which bar to go in. Also no shame to walk in look and walk the fuck out.

4.) You need to know the tourist trap and the decent bars. My opinion: Moulin, orleans, and the bars right in the front are shit. (exception being rouges up stairs) Lucky charm also sucks! Why I say this is the following; They rip you the fuck off!! Bar fine way to high, up to 3,900 P. They force drinks down your throat, mama begs for drinks waitress begs for drinks, massage girl and every girl comes running for a drink!! Fucking ridiculous. You also have to closely watch your tab. That shit adds up. THEN on top of that shit these fucking idiot bar tender) I use the word loosely) begs for a tip on the way out, for fucking what? I have learned not to go there.

5.) The three sister bars are good- Plan be, hotspot and the other one above / below it. I forget the name. Best is plan be. Bar fine 2,600. Super hot girls and usually up to 65 girls in that place. Young and hot, hardly never anyone over 26 or fat. ST 2,000 p like the typical average on burgous.

6.) Crazy Horse is cheap at 1,500 bar fine but selection is just ok. I think Stardust is still only 1,500. Bar fine but not sure.

7.) Tickles will get your wallett but fuck that is a nasty place. I have see crazy shit in there.

8.) You can say no, don't be scared. Its your money you do not have to say yes because some skank or LB asks you.

9.) If your in Makati why waste your time to go all the way to ac and travel for 4 hours plus round trip plus hotel. You will loose money for sure in the end.

10) If you just cheap as fuck get a street girl or go to LA Cafe.

Note: Airforce one is expensive as FUCK!! What the hell are you talking about! Your dropping a shit load to get a girl out of there, plus karaoke room and drinks holy fuck! Never go there because I cannot stomach th price its unreal and located in a shit to get to place with no cabs. With that said I have seen the hottest fucking girls there holy shit!! Dimes for sure. But I am not paying 10,000 p for the hot pussy. You can get a basic dancer who is ok but that's still 4,500! Are you sure you went there?

If you come only for sex and have one destination AC is cool. Its a shit hole, but its got good girls and good prices. I don't disagree. But Makati is great if you know how to handle yourself and follow a few tips on this board.

Anyway this is my opinion and that's it. I'm not the governor of Makati -- maybe-- haha.

OneIpole
05-19-15, 08:14
The older I get the more protective of my comfort I become, so walking to the road or schlepping upstairs to arrivals ain't for me. Not putting down those who do it, and if I were younger I might consider it. Today I took an UberX car to the international Terminal 3 departure area and the cost including skyway toll was, I think, Php202.

The Terminal 3 departure experience was not the most fun I've ever had but that's a subject perhaps for a future post.

GE.You like the uber car thing / it works good and you have been in ok cars? I never have tried it.

GoodEnough
05-19-15, 08:23
You like the uber car thing / it works good and you have been in ok cars? I never have tried it.It works great. The cars are immaculate, and fairly new. The drivers are courteous, and the fares are quite reasonable. I use it twice a day when I'm here working.

GE.

GoodEnough
05-19-15, 08:35
First of all you have to understand how to handle the place and carry-your self.

1.) Read this board. Not from new guys but from the pros some guys have been here for years

5.) The three sister bars are good- Plan be, hotspot and the other one above / below it. I forget the name. Best is plan be. Bar fine 2,600. Super hot girls and usually up to 65 girls in that place. Young and hot, hardly never anyone over 26 or fat. ST 2,000 p like the typical average on burgousExcellent post Onepole, and so good advice for all newbies. The only thing I would add is that, at least for me, Burgos becomes fun when you go there with a buddy or two. I also think that the 3 sister bars: Plan be, Kojax (upstairs) and Hot Spot (downstairs) are by several leagues the best places in the area. They're clean, decent, laid back, and never try to rip you off.

GE.

Socker
05-19-15, 08:47
Sir,

Not to argue but that is not how the bar fines work. I have never heard of that or experienced it. On Burgous in Plan be you can easily get bar fine 2,600.00. There is no free lady drinks and there is no buying 10 lady drinks? I am not sure what you are referring to or trying to explain (its very confusing what you are saying). On almost all the bars in burgous they have a bar fine from 1,500.00 to 3,900.00 for the tourist spots. There is no limit on how many drinks you buy. Maybe I have heard you need to buy at least one. But, for my three years living here I have never had to purchase a certain limit of drinks. (I actually do not know what you are trying to say, its very confusing! Are you trying to compare the cost of a drink to the cost f a bar fine?

Easy example: My opinion Plan be has the hottest girls. I have only paid a fine of 2,600 for the girl ever. They may ask for more, but I just give them a strange look and say its 2,600.0 (I have never got under 2,600.). I usually have at least one drink and get the girl at least one drink while I talk to her a bit. But if I'm good I'm done, no more drinks I just pay the bar fine. When I get a girl the most I ever pay is 2,000.00 for her service. If she wants more good luck to her and I move on. I have maybe been turned down by one girl here and there but 98% agree.

My opinion is never go to moulin or lucky charm or bottoms. They are for tourist only. They are smoking crack to think I would pay 3,900. For a bar fine! They do not even have the best girls! And then they work you like a mother fucker for drinks! Mama, waitress, massage girls. FUCK its a nasty system in those places. (bottoms is OK if you just sit-they don't fuck with you, but call a girl and its open warfare! I don't like those places at all and even the other bar owners do not go in there because they have to watch their bill and get treated like a tourist when they own a bar on the strip!

Plan be is my favorite with hotspot and the way over / under it. Hottest girls fair bar fine. Crazy horse is the best pricing by far with a 1,500.00 bar fine- but selection is not good.

Tickles will work you over to but fuck those girls are nasty! I have done everything in that bar except band a girl in her ass!

Anyways, please elabaraote on what you are trying to say, I just don't understand what it is? (not being a ass, I really don't get it).I notice a lot of people think a $4 bottle of wine is comparable to a $10 bottle. It is not. A $4 bottle of wine taste like a $4 bottle of wine. In Rouges there are many $4 bottles of wine, in Bottoms the $10 (and higher) stuff is available. Last February I partook of both and the $10 bottle was easily superior. I will never convince a $4 bottle lover that the $10 version is better in looks but that is what it always is.

I will also mention I was swarmed in the afternoon at Rouges (corner of Burgos / Makati) and this one young lady ($4 bottle) knew how to work me into a frenzy. I took her for whatever. 2,200 p, can't remember (exactly) and it was a hot session. Prior to meeting her I was at Bottoms and met an 8 but she was stuffy and full of herself, plus the bar fine is 3,900, she wanted 4,000 p for her tip. Had she been more personable I would have taken her because she was dream material, seriously sexy and voluptuous. She was super fine, her name. Sapphire, (I think), definitely the sexiest lady I saw on my trip but she was a dud mentally.

What my buddy Natty was saying is that at many bars on Burgos the LDs you buy are deducted from the bar fine cost of the lady you take out. Bar fine 3,900 p, LDs you bought 2 at 390 p = 780 p. You then tell the mama that you are taking the BG out. The mama will deduct the 780 p from the BF of 3,900 p leaving you w / a final tab of 3,120 p. Say goodbye to the mama and walk your strange pussy back to your hotel or the next bar. One last thing to say about big city ladies is this is where you can find 8's and 9's. I don't believe there are any 9's in AC and the 8's are very rare too. Like it or not, this is true.

The drinks apply to your barfine in many Burgos bars, not in Kojaxs which is also a great bar w / a slightly less BF cost.

Contrary to my good bro, Natty I can do w / out Burgos street on my next trip. The prices are way too expensive for the PI and will rise as long as mongers will pay them. I won't be paying them. I'll stick w / the country girls in AC and Subic where I can BF a cutie in AC and she will not size me up but do whatever I want in a country bumpkin way. I can splurge w / a 3,000 p lady and barhop and pay fair prices during the night, not so on Burgos Street. Barhopping on Burgos makes for an expensive night for the average monger and I go to the PI for friendly women and prices. I really had a great experience in AC last time there. I saw many high quality items in the bigger bars on Fields and plan on getting back there ASAP to get my dick in a tight spot.

Makati ladies are more intelligent and savvy w / big city sexiness but there's a downside too.

I might add that another appealing aspect of Burgos is the street action w / some very nice talent available for 2,000 p. They are all over the street after say, 10 pm. It is a very cool scene on Burgos, some nice pussy to be enjoyed for a reasonable price.

My 2 p, hope it made things more confusing.

Member #4698
05-19-15, 13:55
Sir,

On Burgos in Plan be you can easily get bar fine 2,600.00. There is no free lady drinks and there is no buying 10 lady drinks? I am not sure what you are referring to or trying to explain (its very confusing what you are saying). On almost all the bars in burgous they have a bar fine from 1,500.00 to 3,900.00 for the tourist spots. There is no limit on how many drinks you buy. Maybe I have heard you need to buy at least one. But, for my three years living here I have never had to purchase a certain limit of drinks. (I actually do not know what you are trying to say, its very confusing! Are you trying to compare the cost of a drink to the cost f a bar fine?

Easy example: My opinion Plan be has the hottest girls. I have only paid a fine of 2,600 for the girl ever. They may ask for more, but I just give them a strange look and say its 2,600.0 (I have never got under 2,600.). I usually have at least one drink and get the girl at least one drink while I talk to her a bit. But if I'm good I'm done, no more drinks I just pay the bar fine. When I get a girl the most I ever pay is 2,000.00 for her service. If she wants more good luck to her and I move on. I have maybe been turned down by one girl here and there but 98% agree.


OneIpole, Bottoms is my favorite Burgos Bar. They have a very good selection of very friendly girls. I also like Plan B a lot too although the vibe in Plan B is very different. Stardust can also be fun, but the real lookers in this bar are the professional dancers and they do not barfine. I find that very disappointing. Rogues is rowdy and fun, but I agree with Socker that the quality runs from Bottoms then Plan B at the top to Rogues at the lower end.

Now, let me try one more time to explain the Burgos Barfine / Lady drink system.

1. There is no requirement to buy a girl a lady drink although I highly recommend it in order to break the ice, get acquainted, and find out if the girl is right for you. A lot of in bar hanky panky/foreplay can go on between you and the girl. For example, in Bottoms, if a Bottoms girl does not brush aside her suspender top and offer me her nipples to kiss within a few minutes of my inviting her over to my table for a drink, I figure she is not the girl for me. My advice is buy a girl you are interested in a couple of drinks. Have a good time and test drive her in the bar before you commit to taking her out of the bar. Do not come off as a cheap Charley. It will reflect badly on you and adversely affect your sexual experience later on.

2. The price of the lady drinks will be deducted from your bar tab if you barfine the girl. For example: 1 lady drink at Bottoms = 390 p. 10 lady drinkis = 3900p. The Barfine at Bottoms = 3900p. BUT these two items are not cumulative. Lady drinks should not be added to the barfine.

Scenario 1: If you should buy 10 Tequilas for your girl and barfine her, the total cost excluding your drinks is 3900 p. So the barfine is 10 lady drinks. You do not have to pay for both a barfine and her lady drinks.
Scenario 2: If you buy your girl 1 Tequila and barfine her, the total cost excluding your drinks is 3900 p, so the 1 lady drink is essentially free as long as you pay the barfine.
Scenario 3: If you buy your girl NO drinks and barfine her, the total cost excluding your drinks is 3900 p. The same tab as if you did buy her a couple of lady drinks.
Scenario 4: If you buy a girl a lady drink and then decide NOT TO BARFINE her, the total cost excluding your drinks is 390p ie you will be charged for all her lady drinks since there is no barfine.

What usually happens after all is said and done, is the mamasan or waitress will give you a bill that includes the barfine, lady drinks, and your drinks and you must remind them of the barfine / lady drink relationship. They will then deduct the lady drinks from your tab. I guess a lot of customers do not make this request and thus over pay for the barfine and lady drinks.

So next time you barfine a girl from Plan B ask the mamasan to remove the lady drinks from your tab and she will. This has always been my experience in Bottoms and Plan B. So party hardy. Burgos is a great place.

Member #4698
05-19-15, 15:36
Contrary to my good bro, Natty I can do w / out Burgos street on my next trip. The prices are way too expensive for the PI and will rise as long as mongers will pay them. I won't be paying them. I'll stick w / the country girls in AC and Subic where I can BF a cutie in AC and she will not size me up but do whatever I want in a country bumpkin way. I can splurge w / a 3,000 p lady and barhop and pay fair prices during the night, not so on Burgos Street. Barhopping on Burgos makes for an expensive night for the average monger and I go to the PI for friendly women and prices. I really had a great experience in AC last time there. I saw many high quality items in the bigger bars on Fields and plan on getting back there ASAP to get my dick in a tight spot.

Makati ladies are more intelligent and savvy w / big city sexiness but there's a downside too.

I might add that another appealing aspect of Burgos is the street action w / some very nice talent available for 2,000 p. They are all over the street after say, 10 pm. It is a very cool scene on Burgos, some nice pussy to be enjoyed for a reasonable price.
As fellow punters and brothers in arms I think we can agree to disagree on our preferences. I am at present into big city Makati girls. I agree with you that they are both more savy and more expensive than their country cousins. The big city girls have never let me down or disappointed me in bed. I wish I could say the same for all of my AC girls. I can't. In addition, many of my Burgos girls knowing full well how expensive their barfine is on top of what they ask, offer to meet me on the side thus eliminating the barfine. I am hesitant to take them up on this, but this is what happens economically whenever a supplier, Burgos Bars in this case, sets a price for their product or services artificially too high; a grey market will develop.

And I too have met some real pretty diamonds in the rough among the Burgos Massage girls hanging about. Walking slowly down Burgos between 10pm and 11pm is like panning for gold in the Yukon Territory in 1896. You just might strike it rich. (Sorry for the mixed metaphor.) LOL.

Anyway, I am sure I will go back to AC one of these days. I know I can't resist the siren song for too long and I am actually a big Subic fan. I really like it there. Barrio Barretto does not have near as many bars or girls as AC, but the Subic girls I have met all seem to have much better attitudes than their AC cousins. I know this is a huge generalization and that their are plenty of really great girls in AC. I just like the vibe better in Subic. I usually stay for a week and butterfly around the first few nights until I meet a girl I really like and then I make her my GF for the remainder of my stay ending up spending up to 20 hours a day with her.

So a future itinerary will likely include 3 nights in AC on the way to Subic for a week and then hang out in AC for another couple of nights on my way back to Makati. But this ain't going to happen in the near future. On my next trip to the PI, I plan to spend 10 days in Manila and 6 days at Cloud 9 on Siargao. I can't wait!

Medellin Kuya
05-19-15, 16:36
Am I reading this right?

Guys are paying 4,600 pesos (100 dollars) to fuck a pinay on Burgos St / Philippines!

That is absurd. Might as well go to Colombia and bang WAY hotter women for that price.

Hell, 100-150 dollars can get you a nice hot Korean hooker if I am not mistaken.

FuyangMan
05-19-15, 16:38
This is my first posting here. I'm a long term resident of Makati, and cannot agree more about some of the posts on Burgos Street. I'm guilty of a number of indiscretions there which left me very light in the wallet! But I do not know how anybody could recommend that place. One good night out, and say better value would be the legendary Firehouse, EDSA, Pasay City. A number of bars inside the building (Pit Stop is the best). Hot babes, well-run and not pushy. You get value, and in many visits I Have never felt ripped off. Fellows on a budget may like to check in in advance to the SOGO across the road. That makes taking the girl way easier afterwards than sitting around waiting for a room. The footbridge is a little dodgy, so don't get drunk. Actually, you will pretty much always have an OK rime. Until you overdo it on alcohol. I've also found Cafe Havana to be way past its best. I've had more success, and a whole lot cheaper, with chatting up the girls in Landmark department store. They are less snotty than those who work in SM, although the Lee Jeans concession in SM has future potential. I have on occasion strayed from my neighborhood as far as Manila Bay Cafe. Telling the freelance Mamasan that I wanted a quiet girl who could hold an intelligent conversation was a good idea. She fixed me up with a sweetie, some stretch marks, two kids, but willing and up for everything. Took her to the Sogo in Ermita. The girls here really like it if you take them for something to eat before getting down to business. If in a bar, sharing out a plate of pizza is remembered the next time you visit.

Anyway, I look forward to posting more and reading.

SaltyPete
05-20-15, 15:09
One good night out, and say better value would be the legendary Firehouse, EDSA, Pasay City. A number of bars inside the building (Pit Stop is the best). Hot babes, well-run and not pushy. You get value, and in many visits I Have never felt ripped off.I am a big fan of EDSA and usually stay across the street at the Heritage Hotel. I have been to Burgos Street 3 times but must have hit only the rip-off joints with outrageous barfines for pushy, older, below-average looking girls; I did not make it to Bottoms or Plan be (I dated a DIA girl who said all her friends work at Plan be when they become single moms). I will need to hit those bars up when I return in a couple of weeks and see how they compare to EDSA girls. I already have a couple of them lined-up for a threesome.

Socker
05-21-15, 18:34
As fellow punters and brothers in arms I think we can agree to disagree on our preferences. I am at present into big city Makati girls. A final thought from me on this. I am also into big city ladies but I am not as experienced or w / deep pockets as you. I get one PI trip every 10 months or so so I have to make the right moves. I used to make Cebu a regular part of my PI rotation because of the beauty and charisma of the Mango Street BGs in bars like Vikings, Red Lips, etc. This is where the 9's are, there are no 9's in AC. NONE!

Makati has almost the same kind of talent but the difference between these 2 cities is that the Burgos women will go w / me. So I like that aspect of mongering on Burgos. In May 2014 the BF was 2,500 p and the ladies wanted 3000 p after the deed. I took a few nice ones in May and had little issue w. Prices, better looking product, higher prices, fair enough. Fast forward to Feb 2015 and now the BF is 3,900 p and the tip afterwards is 4,000 p. For me this is a deal breaker, the prices jumped too damn high in too short a period.

Cebu on the other hand is still affordable w / even better looking women but the stunners will not go w / most westerners. I have been let down there too many times, at best you get a hustling DS who will play you for drinks, after a couple of hours of this she'll go in the back and disappear. The Viking bar has no manager, if you have a problem there's no one to complain to, you're fucked (not in a good way).

So as of right now I am not a big fan of either place but I will return eventually, Cebu has a lot to offer including nearby paradise such as Bohol. The big city filipinas can be extremely beautiful and sexy and they wear beautiful sexy clothes, unlike their AC counterparts. I wish you well Natty, I'll be on the hunt in Sept / Oct in both Thailand and the PI.

Next up is El Salvador and Colombia is a few weeks.


This is my first posting here. I'm a long term resident of Makati, and cannot agree more about some of the posts on Burgos Street. I'm guilty of a number of indiscretions there which left me very light in the wallet! But I do not know how anybody could recommend that place. One good night out, and say better value would be the legendary Firehouse, EDSA, Pasay City. A number of bars inside the building (Pit Stop is the best). Hot babes, well-run and not pushy. You get value, and in many visits I Have never felt ripped off. Fellows on a budget may like to check in in advance to the SOGO across the road. That makes taking the girl way easier afterwards than sitting around waiting for a room. The footbridge is a little dodgy, so don't get drunk. Actually, you will pretty much always have an OK rime. Until you overdo it on alcohol. I've also found Cafe Havana to be way past its best. I've had more success, and a whole lot cheaper, with chatting up the girls in Landmark department store. They are less snotty than those who work in SM, although the Lee Jeans concession in SM has future potential. I have on occasion strayed from my neighborhood as far as Manila Bay Cafe. Telling the freelance Mamasan that I wanted a quiet girl who could hold an intelligent conversation was a good idea. She fixed me up with a sweetie, some stretch marks, two kids, but willing and up for everything. Took her to the Sogo in Ermita. The girls here really like it if you take them for something to eat before getting down to business. If in a bar, sharing out a plate of pizza is remembered the next time you visit.

Anyway, I look forward to posting more and reading.

Edsa is one area I have not explored so your information is very much appreciated. Nice post, thanks......

Key Master
05-22-15, 10:15
In May 2014 the BF was 2,500 p and the ladies wanted 3000 p after the deed. I took a few nice ones in May and had little issue w. Prices, better looking product, higher prices, fair enough. Fast forward to Feb 2015 and now the BF is 3,900 p and the tip afterwards is 4,000 p. For me this is a deal breaker, the prices jumped too damn high in too short a period.
Burgos and their BF system along with deductions for drinks can make things rather confusing. Plus some bars are more expensive than others and some places have different prices at different times of the day or night. The other issue in particular about deducting lady drinks off the barfine is that of course most bars will not even do it if you don't mention it. Sometimes the mamasans thinking you don't know about it like me before will say they are discounting the barfine for you because you are so special when really it's based more on the fact that drinks do that in most of the bars there. Maybe in fact the mamasan does have some leeway with the barfines but I seriously think it's about the drinks and what they think they can get away with with also putting more money in their pockets.

I haven't been in Burgos for a couple of years now, but can say with certainty that there were bars already at 3500-3900 pesos barfines before 2014 along with those 4000 pesos asking prices for the women themselves. The scene there is very different and can be confusing.

CallSign Papa
05-22-15, 14:14
If anyone fancies meeting up and going in search of trouble tonight or tomorrow pm me. Hitting clubs (and Burgos) on your lonesome doesn't have the same magic.

OneIpole
05-26-15, 07:40
Am I reading this right?

Guys are paying 4,600 pesos (100 dollars) to fuck a pinay on Burgos St / Philippines!

That is absurd. Might as well go to Colombia and bang WAY hotter women for that price.

Hell, 100-150 dollars can get you a nice hot Korean hooker if I am not mistaken.Depends how you look at it I guess. The highest bar fine I will pay is 2,600.00 . The most I will pay the girl is 2,000.00 P so I guess if you add it up its 4,600! That does not include what you drink.

OneIpole
05-26-15, 07:46
It works great. The cars are immaculate, and fairly new. The drivers are courteous, and the fares are quite reasonable. I use it twice a day when I'm here working.

GE.Great tip, I'm going give it a try!

OneIpole
05-26-15, 07:56
Yeah I found Tinder to be quite a useful resource. It's worth noting though that girls may have their age filter set below what your age is (as taken from your attached FB profile), so they just won't see you, even if you swipe right on them.

A good mix of P4 P, girls looking for a good night out and "soul mate searchers".Good Tip.

I will have to make sure I am a bit younger on my fb!

I will also check out that soul mate searcher.

IllusionHeart
05-26-15, 17:37
Hell, 100-150 dollars can get you a nice hot Korean hooker if I am not mistaken.

MedellinKuya, do share some info about hot Korean gals in Manila or AC if you are aware. I don't mind paying 150 USD for an experience.

Amjeck
05-26-15, 17:52
Am I reading this right?

Guys are paying 4,600 pesos (100 dollars) to fuck a pinay on Burgos St / Philippines!

That is absurd. Might as well go to Colombia and bang WAY hotter women for that price.

Hell, 100-150 dollars can get you a nice hot Korean hooker if I am not mistaken.Yep! And there's no shortage of punters either. Guys are flying from across the globe to fuck mediocre pinays for that price you mentioned. It's like that in Bangkok also. Plane Janes with stretch marks getting top dollar!

Member #4387
05-26-15, 22:38
MedellinKuya, do share some info about hot Korean gals in Manila or AC if you are aware. I don't mind paying 150 USD for an experience.Since S Korea is a high cost country I doubt korean prostis will set foot in a 3 world country as phils. Economic brightness will tell this is a stupid move. But as a nice replacement you have pinays copycatting korean / japaneese looks. Except from Seoul itself i believe korean pussy for sale can be found in Singapore or Macau and ofcourse in the US.

In clubs like Z6 or Ekslusiv you have certain groups of korean girls(some very HOT ofcourse)attending but they are not p4 p to my knowledge. Atleast the 2 korean girls I have pulled from there were not. Through initial convo with them i was told they mostly work in Manilabased Korean companies or they study. So running their life in phils on either korean salary or study from their parents wallets, i believe, should keep them away from selling pussy. But again other punters may have new info regarding this matter.

Engine Driver
05-27-15, 05:57
Yep! And there's no shortage of punters either. Guys are flying from across the globe to fuck mediocre pinays for that price you mentioned. It's like that in Bangkok also. Plane Janes with stretch marks getting top dollar!For AUD 110 - 160, you can get ST with a girl in any Australian brothel. This will include DFK, BBBJ, DATY and one pop. Time will be limited to 30 minutes, but that's all you need. For a USD 100 tip, you can get full service at an AMP in most Californian cities. GBP 170 at Phoenix Club (formerly Lady Marmalade) in London will get you 2 hours of banging with 6 gorgeous Eastern European babes.

What is the USP of Makati girls? Stretch marks, lousy attitudes and a hint of anger? If plane loads of gullible men are landing at NAIA to pay these crazy prices, then that's their choice. A fool and his money.

GoodEnough
05-27-15, 06:34
For AUD 110 - 160, you can get ST with a girl in any Australian brothel. This will include DFK, BBBJ, DATY and one pop. Time will be limited to 30 minutes, but that's all you need. For a USD 100 tip, you can get full service at an AMP in most Californian cities. GBP 170 at Phoenix Club (formerly Lady Marmalade) in London will get you 2 hours of banging with 6 gorgeous Eastern European babes.

What is the USP of Makati girls? Stretch marks, lousy attitudes and a hint of anger? If plane loads of gullible men are landing at NAIA to pay these crazy prices, then that's their choice. A fool and his money.I think the flaw in your logic is the assumption that most of the guys who come to Makati do so solely for a one or two pop sexual encounter. Thus, you equate their motivation with that of punters who go for short-term sexual relief to the sources mentioned in your post. Based on my conversations with the gentlemen who come here--and my own experiences living here--however, your assumption is incorrect in that the punters here are looking for more than just brief, impersonal encounters. The fact is that many Filipinas available for takeout are warm, loving, gentle companions and do not treat their customers as interchangeable male organs. The fact is also that young, pretty women with no stretch marks and gracious attitudes are fairly easy to find.

I don't know what experiences you had that engendered the bitterness and contempt so evident in your post, but whatever they were, they don't seem consistent with the reality of most of the guys I know. To me, the notion of paying A $160 for a 30 minute assembly line encounter with a woman who might have multiple such couplings during a given day is wholly unappealing, when for an equivalent expenditure here, one could find 12 hours or so of delightful company.

I understand that we all have different tastes, attitudes and predilections, and you have every right to your own. Just be aware please that others perceive the situation here differently and for their own valid reasons.

GE.

Engine Driver
05-27-15, 10:52
I think the flaw in your logic is the assumption that most of the guys who come to Makati do so solely for a one or two pop sexual encounter. Thus, you equate their motivation with that of punters who go for short-term sexual relief to the sources mentioned in your post. Based on my conversations with the gentlemen who come here--and my own experiences living here--however, your assumption is incorrect in that the punters here are looking for more than just brief, impersonal encounters. The fact is that many Filipinas available for takeout are warm, loving, gentle companions and do not treat their customers as interchangeable male organs. The fact is also that young, pretty women with no stretch marks and gracious attitudes are fairly easy to find.

I don't know what experiences you had that engendered the bitterness and contempt so evident in your post, but whatever they were, they don't seem consistent with the reality of most of the guys I know. To me, the notion of paying A $160 for a 30 minute assembly line encounter with a woman who might have multiple such couplings during a given day is wholly unappealing, when for an equivalent expenditure here, one could find 12 hours or so of delightful company.

I understand that we all have different tastes, attitudes and predilections, and you have every right to your own. Just be aware please that others perceive the situation here differently and for their own valid reasons.

GE.I am well aware that Western gentlemen come to Manila, not to save money on sex, but to search for companionship, GFE and the love and tenderness only a Filipino girl can offer. They are often disillusioned with Western women. Can you imagine ripping the panties off a 40-year old Australian MILF? It would knock the buzzards off a shit wagon.

The discussion was simply highlighting that although Manila is a 'low labor cost' city, the prices for P4P action are right up there with other big international cities. It is wrong to assume you are going to the PI for cheap sex as that is not the case anymore. I was not comparing the transactional nature of the sex.

Not everyone is searching for long-term companionship and they don't need the complications of keeping in contact with their P4P dates. For some it doesn't matter if it is 30-minutes in a production line brothel or two-hours with a girl from LA Cafe.

I added the bit about 'hint of anger' as no girl I have ever met in Manila has ever been happy with her situation in life. By and large they are sweet, cheerful and fun to be with in a superficial way. However, it's tinged with disappointment that life has dealt her a bad hand and she has to struggle to play those cards in the best way she can.

Sammon
05-27-15, 16:01
MedellinKuya, do share some info about hot Korean gals in Manila or AC if you are aware. I don't mind paying 150 USD for an experience.As far as I know there are none in AC. Mixed Korean-Phi possible.

There are some in Manila Karaoke bars run by Koreans for Koreans. Unless you have a Korean friend it will be hard to get in.

In Cebu there are plenty of Korean students. I happened to stay in a resort one time with my Phi GF and there were many Korean students staying there. I got friendly with them and they invited us to go party with them at a Disco they were going. My girl declined and told me if I wanted to go I can. Did not want to get my girl angry so I declined.

There are older expat Korean ladies living around Cebu. I got talking to some of them. They are strictly date and see what happens deal. I have no patience for it because I do not live there. And with horny, young good looking local girls why would I waste my time?

IllusionHeart
05-27-15, 16:02
Since S Korea is a high cost country I doubt korean prostis will set foot in a 3 world country as phils. Economic brightness will tell this is a stupid move. But as a nice replacement you have pinays copycatting korean / japaneese looks. Except from Seoul itself i believe korean pussy for sale can be found in Singapore or Macau and ofcourse in the US.

In clubs like Z6 or Ekslusiv you have certain groups of korean girls(some very HOT ofcourse)attending but they are not p4 p to my knowledge. Atleast the 2 korean girls I have pulled from there were not. Through initial convo with them i was told they mostly work in Manilabased Korean companies or they study. So running their life in phils on either korean salary or study from their parents wallets, i believe, should keep them away from selling pussy. But again other punters may have new info regarding this matter.Skogis, regarding availability in Singapore where I visit frequently the real Korean women cost 500 SGD or even 700 SGD for a pop. The mixed or lookalike which is completely dependent on your luck is 300 SGD a pop. The setting is also generally a average hotel details of which are texted to you once booking is confirmed. If you don't like the girl in comparison to photos you might also get charged 50 sgd which is told upfront. Besides these girls are on short visits hence bookings are tight and you might not get a slot as regulars members are preferred more. I am not regular or have booked yet since I don't believe in paying these ridiculous prices for any girl of any nationality. I got interested as 150 USD is quickly becoming the cost for ST with a Viet from OT.

I went two nights to Club zzyzx and found that there were indeed Korean or lookalike girls in groups and available. Both nights we got a 1500 peso table right at the edge of the floor near the VIP sofas. However since we already had company with us I couldn't check or make a move. Lot of single girls dancing on and near the dance floor, looked easy to join them. They looked Korean but was difficult to make out whether actual Koreans or locals.

I also went to Club Ekslusiv but we walked out as it was almost empty barring a few couples and two odd groups of Friends. Maybe I need to visit Z6 or Ekslusiv on my next trip.

If any member indeed has any source of leads do share.

Amjeck
05-27-15, 17:14
The discussion was simply highlighting that although Manila is a 'low labor cost' city, the prices for P4P action are right up there with other big international cities. It is wrong to assume you are going to the PI for cheap sex as that is not the case anymore. The local scenes are far cheaper than the tourist scenes. Like anywhere in the world, tourists always pay more for everything! The same girls that fuck foreigners for 3000-4000 p fuck local boys for far less.

OneIpole
06-01-15, 16:38
Sorry my second favorite topic: check out the top floor of the century city mall. Its called hole in the wall. Its a fucking awesome place to eat. Its a bunch of different food places in a cafeteria type place. The food in this new mall is really good. The theater is super nice. If you like Japanese they have a Awesome Ramen and cutsu place. Anyway that's enough of my 2nd favorite topic. P.S. I did not say its cheap, its good.

Peskadot
06-02-15, 07:18
Anyone have any recommendations for a short time hotel in Makati.

I will be otherwise encumbered and need to find a cheap and cheerful short time hotel to meet a friend for a quick tryst.

Peskadot.

Slippery
06-02-15, 11:03
Anyone have any recommendations for a short time hotel in Makati.

I will be otherwise encumbered and need to find a cheap and cheerful short time hotel to meet a friend for a quick tryst.

Peskadot.Unless you're going to go where the locals go, about the best you'll do is either of the Sogos or Eurotel over by the Skyway. Eurotel is still nearly $50.00 a night. Of course, you can rent at hourly intervals at Sogo.

Tomasb
06-02-15, 12:27
The Hotel Durban on Durban is nice. The most expensive room is $50 and you can get a smaller room for $35. At least, those were the prices when I stayed there over the Christmas holidays this year.

However, the front desk will require an ID for any extra guests.

Staff quite friendly and looks like it was recently remodeled.


Unless you're going to go where the locals go, about the best you'll do is either of the Sogos or Eurotel over by the Skyway. Eurotel is still nearly $50.00 a night. Of course, you can rent at hourly intervals at Sogo.A.

Asian Rain
06-02-15, 14:43
Eurotel Makati. 5 min taxi from Greenbelt. Functional and offers "short stay" rate. Demand a discount card. P550/3 hours last time I "short stayed" there. Enjoy, AsianRain.


Anyone have any recommendations for a short time hotel in Makati.

I will be otherwise encumbered and need to find a cheap and cheerful short time hotel to meet a friend for a quick tryst.

Peskadot.

OsakaGin11
06-07-15, 08:03
The Hotel Durban on Durban is nice. The most expensive room is $50 and you can get a smaller room for $35. At least, those were the prices when I stayed there over the Christmas holidays this year.

However, the front desk will require an ID for any extra guests.

Staff quite friendly and looks like it was recently remodeled.

A.That's good to hear about the Hotel Durban as I have been checking it out as a possible place to stay on my next trip to Manila.

I usually stay next door at the Oxford Suites hotel, but since its now become a member of the Great Western hotel chain, the accommodation prices have sky rocketed in recent times.

Tomasb
06-07-15, 09:27
I have a friend who has a Oxford studio unit that he rents via AIR BnB at a reasonable rate. He also loves in neighborhood. If you can't find it on AIR, PM me for contact details.


That's good to hear about the Hotel Durban as I have been checking it out as a possible place to stay on my next trip to Manila.

I usually stay next door at the Oxford Suites hotel, but since its now become a member of the Great Western hotel chain, the accommodation prices have sky rocketed in recent times.

WestCoast1
06-07-15, 15:01
The Hotel Durban on Durban is nice. The most expensive room is $50 and you can get a smaller room for $35. At least, those were the prices when I stayed there over the Christmas holidays this year.

However, the front desk will require an ID for any extra guests.

Staff quite friendly and looks like it was recently remodeled.

A.No elevator I believe.

Commonglass
06-08-15, 10:20
I've been in Makati for a couple of weeks and I've had some fantastic experiences. I became a 19 year old's first true love (FilipinoCupid) and I have an awesome sex crazy friend-with-benefits (PinaLove). I've had (or could have had) sex with everyone I've dated. They've all been 7's and 8's. In fact, I think that almost anyone can have sex with as many 6's and 7's as they want--in whatever way they want.

Recently I've noticed Western guys hanging out at my upscale condo building's pool with 9's and 10's. Really gorgeous ladies. The girls they have blow my girls right out of the water. Physically these guys are nothing special. The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?

X Man
06-08-15, 12:24
I'm a regular visitor, and I've asked myself the same question. I'm not living, or staying, in an upscale condo, BTW. You don't tell us how long you've been living in MM. Maybe you should ask these guys yourself. You could ask the gals too, but you might end up with some old auntie with a litter of kids.

Your neighbors may have more money to burn. And then there is always the grass is greener phenomena. X Man.


I've been in Makati for a couple of weeks and I've had some fantastic experiences. I became a 19 year old's first true love (FilipinoCupid) and I have an awesome sex crazy friend-with-benefits (PinaLove). I've had (or could have had) sex with everyone I've dated. They've all been 7's and 8's. In fact, I think that almost anyone can have sex with as many 6's and 7's as they want--in whatever way they want.

Recently I've noticed Western guys hanging out at my upscale condo building's pool with 9's and 10's. Really gorgeous ladies. The girls they have blow my girls right out of the water. Physically these guys are nothing special. The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?

Sammon
06-08-15, 14:02
I've been in Makati for a couple of weeks and I've had some fantastic experiences. I became a 19 year old's first true love (FilipinoCupid) and I have an awesome sex crazy friend-with-benefits (PinaLove). I've had (or could have had) sex with everyone I've dated. They've all been 7's and 8's. In fact, I think that almost anyone can have sex with as many 6's and 7's as they want--in whatever way they want.

Recently I've noticed Western guys hanging out at my upscale condo building's pool with 9's and 10's. Really gorgeous ladies. The girls they have blow my girls right out of the water. Physically these guys are nothing special. The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?It is definitely money and spending power. Do you know if you sponsor a girl you can have any girl in Phi?

If you want a arm candy or to show in your condo pool I am sure you can get one. But nothing is free. Just because a good looking girl is with a ugly guy do not think the girl loves him. As we all know there are relationship and there are " relationships" what kind? Nobody knows.

Personally I would settle for an average looking sweetheart in and out of bed anytime.

Engine Driver
06-10-15, 05:47
The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?Trust me, you don't want to get one. They will most probably have princess complexes with correspondingly large egos. Beautiful girls mean high maintenance and drama. For a stress free time, I'd stick to my 7's and be happy with the lower fuel cost and better mileage.

CallSign Papa
06-12-15, 03:56
Had no idea this was such a cool area. Rented an apartment in Joya Tower (south) through AirBnB and it was the perfect base for operations. Had between 1 & 2 guests per day, never had to register them (we always just walked straight up) but security would always call me when they left. Apartment itself was in an area that felt very safe (even compared to Poblacion where I've had absolutely not issues security wise).

Power Plant mall was literally across the street and was a great place to initially meet up with girls to decide if they'd be selected for a round of horizontal tango. Either my pre-selection was spot on or I just have a very low quality threshold because every girl I met made it up to my condo. Some twice.

Made it to a few clubs in the Fort and Pangaea / Chaos at City of Dreams, all of them fertile hunting ground even if you're on your lonesome.

Other cool things about Rockwell. Always easy to get a taxi, lots of great restaurants, coffee shops minutes away. Oh and Joya tower has a pizza place and an awesome tapas place, both deliver.

CallSign Papa
06-12-15, 04:02
Recently I've noticed Western guys hanging out at my upscale condo building's pool with 9's and 10's. Really gorgeous ladies. The girls they have blow my girls right out of the water. Physically these guys are nothing special. The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?The short answer is nightclubs. Go to Gramercy 71 in Makati, Prive, Raven and Valkyrie in BGC, Chaos & Pangaea at City of Dreams and you'll see 9's (and some 10's) with alarming regularity. Snagging one is all about how friendly, flirty and confident you are. Having a wingman makes the job way easier, but as someone has already alluded to, the higher the rating, the higher the drama. And yes, you need to spend more money to keep them happy.

OneIpole
06-15-15, 14:54
I pick up these good looking Chinese lady from Shanghai. Nice woman, good looking, good job, professional, can hold a conversation. We go out, we eat, we drink, we end up fucking same night. This is a so called "Freebie'. I spent more on drinks and food and pointless talk to get laid and it was not that great. Now I have to deal with the uncomfortable see you later-- I will call you and bla bla.

I find its easier to get a bar girl and bang her out, send her home and pay her not to bother me! Plus you get her number and never bar fine her again and fuck her when you feel like it, mostly her day off or before work.

Random99
06-16-15, 19:45
Recently I've noticed Western guys hanging out at my upscale condo building's pool with 9's and 10's. Really gorgeous ladies. The girls they have blow my girls right out of the water. Physically these guys are nothing special. The girls they have are more beautiful than the girls I see around town. They are more beautiful than the Burgos Street girls. Where did they get these girls and how do I get one?It's fashion week at SM Aura in BGC. Haha, try your luck there.

I walked by and took a glance, but too many people and I wasn't really interested in hanging out in a big crowd.

ImAGuy
06-17-15, 03:40
blow my girls right out of the waterHaven't been to the Philippines yet, but what you've said gives me hope. Tried the online dating sites but 99% are what I'd consider 8's and under. The other 1% either scammers or sign in for one day, are too deluged with messages to respond, then never sign back in again, having found a dude with money.

If the girls there are anything like Chinese girls, they're aware of their market value. And maybe the guys have proven that they're more than just 2 week millionaires. Do they drive nice cars?

CallSign Papa
06-23-15, 08:37
This is going to be a long report, so I'll break it up into a few, ignore at your leisure.

Having stayed a few times in the Poblacion area of Makati, I decided to (slightly) branch out based on some feedback from a buddy I met at the now defunct Makati Hooters (the bar is still open, but the girls are sadly nowhere near their predecessors standard). I found a spacious looking two bedroom apartment in Joya Tower in Rockwell (North East of Makati), sourced from AirBnB with the minimum of effort.

The area itself was a revelation. Maybe the cleanest and most "respectable" part of Manila I've found to date. Another plus point was that Joya Tower is next door to Power Plant Mall, which is full to bursting with restaurants, cafes and one very decent bar (serving excellent beer and food) called Draft. Draft became my base of operations for my 5 days in Makati (which I was lucky enough to escape my work commitments).

Having cultivated contacts over my previous visits through bars, malls and Facebook, I'd already decided to forgo both dating sites and Burgos / EDSA as a source for meetups. I had long ago created a more streamlined FB account that has photos and some surface content without too much personal information, and importantly, ensured my Friends list was hidden. Over the course of visits I've added girls I've met, and through their networks looked for interesting hot young fillies. The interesting thing is that once you've got a Car Show Model, or an FHM girl on your Friends list, the "People You Might Know" section becomes a cornucopia of very pretty young things. Most of them cannot be added (because they already have 5000 friends), some have second and third accounts so you might be lucky and get a FR accepted. But there are also some you get lucky with.

However adding one is just the first step. They you've got to get them chatting, which they are sometimes reluctant to do because 1) they don't know you, and 2) they get hundreds of chat windows popping up per day, so standing out from the noise is another challenge. One way or another, over the time since my last visit (about six months) I've built up a friends list of about 20-30 models who I've chatted with regularly, and so when I suggested lunch or dinner on my next visit, I wasn't laughed out of town. I'm 41, not particularly good looking, but in ok shape and can hold my side of a conversation on the surface topics that pinays seems to consistently care about (phones, shoes, mama, clubs).

With time as always being of the essence, it was important to whittle down the 20 or so into the ones I thought I had a shot of getting naked. I had about 6 blocks of time longer than 3 hours (hey I don't work that fast) and so went about working out which girl was free in the afternoon / evening on each day (all the while understanding and accepting the Pinay nature to flake out, turn up late, get lost or not turn up at all). So having nailed 6 girls down to a time slot, it was lights, camera, action.

Maya - Maya was a car ramp model, seemingly forever being photographed next to souped-up Honda Civics. 21, petite, looked unbelievable in a bikini. We arranged to meet for lunch at Draft on a Thursday and when she arrived only 20 minutes late I was delighted. As expected, she looked better in the photos, but was still a very pretty girl with none of the Jollibee puppy fat so prevalent in Manila. After a nice lunch and a few beers (for me) we went across the road to my condo. She had asked for a few small things from my resident city and I was happy to oblige (and oops silly me, I'd left them there). After some late afternoon wine, we settled on the sofa and it was long before we were sans clothes and engaging in some fairly standard naughtiness of which the highlight was when she led me by the boner to the bathroom so that when she blew me, she could spit the contents straight into the sink. That was a new one, but you know me, I'm a trooper and didn't complain. We agreed to meet later in the week and she left after about 3 hours and a lovely time was had by all.

Tin - That evening I met online casino dealer and part time model Christine. Tall, pale, and very nearly the prettiest girl I've ever had dinner with. We had a lovely tapas in a private room of a restaurant near power plant and probably had a little too much wine between us. As we were strolling back to my condo arm in arm I was a little apprehensive that the wine may inhibit my performance, but there was still a lot of work to do before that was even a possibility. Tin had made a big deal on Facebook about "just dinner", she was 100% adamant that there would be no sex, she wasn't that type of girl. And we'd had some very interesting conversation about the nature of relationships, about the vacuous and ultimately empty nature of one-time hookups and 15 other subjects. It was therefore a complete surprise when she decided (after what must have been my 9th glass of wine of the day) to start dancing which then led to grinding in my kitchen and within 10 minutes we were in bed doing to horizontal samba. She was more than a little drunk and more than a handful. Thereby followed a few hours of what can only be described as maximum enoyability with us nodding off about 2 am. You can imagine how confused I was when I woke up at 7.30 am with her nowhere to be seen. Clothes gone, bag gone. I took a bleary-eyed wonder into the lounge to find the apartment key gone. Now I really really confused. I went back to bed (partly to placate my spinning, hungover head) when the front door opened and in she walked, looking fresh as a daisy with a big bag of pastries and some coffee. She, I thought to myself, is a keeper. It turned out that she'd only just come off a run of night shifts and was still adjusting (and sleeping mostly in the day). I wanted her to hang around for the rest of the day, but she had better things to do and we agreed to meet later in the week (which we did), so after breakfast off she went to go spend time with her mama.

Now at this point it's important to note, only for references' sake, no money exchanged hands. But I bought Maya a few small presents, and lunch (which amounted to nothing) and bought dinner and some perfume specifically requested by Tin. The next girl was a little different.

To be continued.

CallSign Papa
06-23-15, 09:33
Joy*. I met Joy in the Market Place supermarket in Power Plant mall the next morning, she was working the gourmet bread counter. So armed with a caramelised onion baguette, I went over and started to chat to her. Petite, pretty and a bit shy, just my type. After a brief but funny conversation I gave her my business card and wrote my Phil number on the back and asked, if she was brave enough, to add me on whatsapp or viber. By the time I got back to the condo we were deep in conversation and (due to trip time constraints, and a full dance card) I decided to go for broke and mention I was a "bit of a naughty guy". This wasn't immediately rebuffed and about an hour in she mentioned the inevitable "family problems", better known to most of us as "money problems". Cut forward an hour and we had come to a very odd but fun agreement, namely that she would come over to my condo, on her day off, and spend the day in her underwear as my "office assistant" whilst I worked. The figure she asked for was minimal and I thought it'd be fun.

As it happened, by Friday I only had a few hours of stuff to do and she arrived (late) when I was nearly done. After a glass of wine she really came out of her shell and in next to no time was true to her word and nosing around my condo in nothing but underwear, she looked magnificent and I told her so frequently. I already had plans for my Friday night but we had a few hours to kill. She was very shy when it came to actual intimacy and being a 20 year old mentioned she'd only been with one guy (Japanese), it hadn't been a pleasant experience. I didn't know what to believe, but decided to veer on the side of skepticism and move on.

An hour later, I realised she could only have been telling the truth. For one reason or another, she'd decided I looked like her favourite actor (I did not), and after an hour or kissing and silly little conversations about nothing, I decided she was warmed up. To this day I still believe I'm the first guy to go down on her. She was so shy that at first I had to do it over her panties and she spent the first 5 minutes laughing and giggling about how ticklish she was, but I remember the look on her face when she "got it", she suddenly went very quiet and serious. After what felt like half an hour of her clawing at my head and generally getting into the spirit of things I handed her a condom from my back pocket. She opened it, unrolled it, and then said "ewwww it smells" and flicked it across the room. Now I'm generally against unprotected sex with someone unless we're in a relationship, but, well, the magic of the moment and all that (this was the only time this trip). The problem was, she really wasn't joking about only having one guy. 10 minutes later, we're still struggling to get it inside her. She's wet, I'm hard, but that ain't counting for shit. So finally with her on top virtually standing over me, she grits her teeth, and I do mean literally, and goes for it. Marvellous. We didn't really move much that entire hour, she couldn't but she had such a look of accomplishment on her face that I spent most of that time in fits of laughter. Time well spent. I ended up giving her double the figure she'd initially mentioned and we agreed to meet the next time I came back to Manila (which we damn well will).

Jenny*. Friday night was the main event. Jenny was a full time model, part time hostess at a popular nightclub in the Fort. She'd managed to get a rare Friday off and the plan was dinner, and then she was going to take me to her club where we'd get the VIP treatment. We met at a Sushi restaurant at Bonifacio High Street (quite a nice spot for a late evening stroll), and immediately got over the first meeting shyness. She had a great (and wicked) sense of humour and looked older than 21 but not much. She was my height in her heels which I really enjoyed and was wearing a killer red dress (lucky I'd dressed up too). After (for me) a lacklustre and disappointing sushi session, we headed to Raven and were whisked through to the VIP area where a table of her friends were already grooving away. After introductions it became clear that they were an ok bunch and didn't mind me cramping their style. Lots of questions about London and my current resident city. They seemed like a pretty well off bunch, probably not on a par with the Hi-so crowd in Bangkok, but certainly affluent for Manila. I had the feeling I might get stuck for most of the drinks but that didn't happen and I was a little disappointed with myself for being so cynical. I did of course pay for Jenny and was happy to do so. The music in Raven is always super-loud so you spend your time shouting into other people's ears, but the atmosphere was kicking. Jenny danced against me most of the night which wasn't the worst thing in the world. We left relatively early at about 2 am and when we got in a taxi and I said Rockwell, Jenny didn't bat an eyelid even though we hadn't discussed where to go after.

Naked, Jenny was very shy of my lower stomach, even thought she's tall and slim and basically about as perfect as it gets for me, and I eventually saw why, whoever had done her caesarian operation obviously did it with a rusty fork and some barb-wire, it really was a mess but luckily low enough that it didn't interfere with her modelling. I personally find scars sexy and told her so. I think we'd maybe both had a little bit too much to drink because we tried to fool around a little but neither of us was really that enthusiastic and we ended up sleeping instead. The next morning we more than made up for the previous evening's lethargy. I quickly found out that Jenny loved to be on top (I do wish girls would just say at the start "hey, you want to make me cum, I like to do X", so we can skip straight to that). On top she had a very efficient bucking technique that got her off in under two minutes, after which she rolled off breathless. Without even looking she patted me on the chest and said "2 minutes", and true to her word, 2 minutes later was back at it. By 11 am Jenny had left and I was still catching my breath, But I had to prepare for my Saturday lunch appointment.

Now you're probably asking, why did you get a two bedroom apartment? The answer is, because of the inevitable post-girl tidy up including the stray hair hunt. By having another bedroom I could split nights and reduce the potential for being caught out. It worked I think. I would periodically go into each room with fresh eyes and find errant hairs in places I'd already looked. Not getting caught once was proof of the pudding I suppose.

To be continued.

*Name changed because i mentioned her place of work

CallSign Papa
06-23-15, 11:25
So, did it all goes as swimmingly for the rest of my stay? Of course it didn't. This is Manila. I had no-shows (2) one of which I REALLY wanted to meet (20 year old former Miss <insert name of southern province>) , she was really something and was supposed to arrive for lunch at 1 in Makati, but by 2. 30 I finally realised her "I'm lost in taxi" really meant "I'm lazy, I ain't coming bozo". I had one girl show up who just blatantly wasn't the girl in the Facebook profile and rated about a 3/10 on the looks scale and a 2/10 on the charm scale (I didn't even have the grace to make it through my cappuccino, before making my excuses and GTFO).

I also met the kind of model you hope never to meet, the kind who's drama's far outweigh their beauty.

Ann - 25 years old and Ann fit the profile. Tall, slim, tanned, her FB page bursting to the seams with bikini shots that would make most men board the first available flight to NAIA. But I was ambivalent about meeting her. For starters, she'd asked for money to help with her sick mom / nan / son on the first day we chatted. And about 5 times more in the two months we occasionally chatted. That's a clear warning sign. But we still had a friendly, flirty, occasionally naughty vibe going that included mention of her coming to stay in my condo for a few days (if only I had the time). And so Sunday lunchtime we met finally at Draft and thus began "the litany of sorrow". Two straight hours of problems problems problems with no time to draw breath, and how this person was doing her harm and that person was taking advantage and on and on it went. By the end I'd completely exhausted my admittedly scarce array of sympathetic looks and useless but well meaning cliches about staying positive and things getting better. I'm not saying she didn't have problems or that her concerns weren't valid, I'm just saying I wasn't the answer to them.

At one point, whilst I was still harbouring ambitions of getting into her underwear I asked how much would solve her problems. 20 k for this, 40 k for that, 80 k for this. But I then decided going to my condo would be a bad idea. No way. No chance.

In my condo Ann decided that while I sink into a bottle of scotch she'd augment her ongoing story by showing me photos on her phone. Clearly not that fussed about editing, in between the photos of her son / mom / nana (none of whom looked sick so far as I could tell), were a number of photos of her with western looking guys, including one of her naked in the shower obviously taken by her guest. Not even a flicker of "oopsy", just onto the next and the next. And before you say it, I don't have double standards, I sleep around, she clearly does too, I have no problem at all, but I don't show her the photos of me and my girls.

After an hour or so I made the excuse of not feeling well and asked if I could pay for her taxi home. Finally getting the message Ann went into a remarkable personality u-turn and became smiley, funny Nurse Ann but alas the damage was done and taking 1000 with her (I know I know) Ann departed.

The moral of the story is always listen to your gut, your dick has shit for brains.

But in Manila "Plan B" is your friend (and I don't mean the bar on Burgos). I assumed I'd have a few drop outs, and wanted to make sure I have viable backups. Knowing time would be tight I had three of four sure things. Two were girls I'd met on Viber on a previous trip who were P2 P, two (again on Viber) were very naughty young things who just wanted an afternoon or evening of fun (with taxi paid of course) as long as I promised to work hard to get them off.

And thus when my Saturday lunch date failed to show, I let Tina know to get her cute butt over to my condo. She arrived in an hour, and brought her favourite toy with her. For a 22 year old she was incredibly outgoing and seemed to feel comfortable at my place in seconds. After a whisky each she went about teaching me how to get the best out of the toy she brought with her which I was glad to do. This is my kind of pinay, you could see in her eyes she wanted to get off and I was just a means to an end. Towards the end I decided to see just how naughty she was and started to inch my finger into her ass, "very bad man", which I took to mean, go for it. We tried, she was a real sport but there was no way if would fit, so after changing condoms we then decided to see how flexible she was. Turns out, she could've been a Romanian Gymnast. Was a great session and I had a few small gifts laying around which she delightfully accepted. I asked if I could give her more than the taxi (because after about two hours I need to start preparing for my next guest) but she seemed happy with our meeting and when I put 2000 on the kitchen table only picked up 1000. Definitely worth a repeat when I'm back next week.

I also met Valerie, by far the most petite girl I know in Manila which makes it doubly impressive that she's able to do what she does. I first met her a few trips back when she was waitressing at the sports bar above the old Hooters in Makati. On our first night together I'd bet her 2000 extra that she wouldn't be able to fit me in her ass (because I genuinely didn't think it possible). I was wrong and whilst it was an expensive loss it was also an enjoyable one. So over she came and like old friends we were soon naked. She said she wanted to try it in the ass in front of a mirror, standing up, and when I pointed out the physical impracticalities of the fact that stood up I was almost hitting her on the chin with my dick (because she's short, not because I'm long), we then improvised using some furniture. Naughty little minx.

I met one or two other girls either for coffee or lunch before I flew out, but was keen to save all my remaining energy for Tin who I was seeing on Monday night (my last night). She came over and we ordered pizza, drank more wine, watched a movie and then stayed up until about 5 am to make sure we made the most of the time we had left. Tin is definitely a girl I could date if I lived in Manila, but given the distance and infrequency of my trips we decided it'll be an adhoc thing. Although that hasn't stopped us whatsapping most days.

I enjoyed staying in Rockwell a lot and I would totally recommend it. I've never ever felt threatened in Makati, even stumbling out of Burgos at 3 am and walking back to Poblacion on previous trips, but Rockwell has a much more relaxed vibe whilst only being 5 minutes away. As always, a great trip.

Double Shooter
06-23-15, 23:32
I enjoyed staying in Rockwell a lot and I would totally recommend it. I've never ever felt threatened in Makati, even stumbling out of Burgos at 3 am and walking back to Poblacion on previous trips, but Rockwell has a much more relaxed vibe whilst only being 5 minutes away. As always, a great trip.Superb FRs.

BTW what did you pay for the apartment?

Member #4387
06-24-15, 02:58
CallsignP: you had some good things going there and it seems we work the FB quite simular with some additional normal hookups as in a mall etc. I don't do the dating stuffs like you as I by know have found out the right buttons to push to get them straight back to my hotel. Only time I wine and dine them is if I am hungry or want to see other stuffs than my hotelroom. I wine them by the way in the room.

About shyness; I think the worst experience I did have arrived on me my last stay 14 days ago or so. A very beautiful spinner I actually tried work before (online) but did not have any success with, decided now was the right time we met. Pinays are funny that way as in just having a passive "friendship" as in no sharing of info is as valuable as in talking each day. She told me in her own simple words that now we had been friends for so long so now she trusted me into not beeing a player. I went all "WOW, what did just happen here"? But who am I to complain if doing nothing just adding days since she befriended me in FB is the trick, so what, hehe.

Having a hard on by only her saying those words made me instantly rearrange my relatively busy sched. Made room for her as in an overnighter and the deal was on. We were to meet Outback (Glorietta 4) late evening and she alerted me she would arrive with a chaperone. I habe done this multiple times by now and the chaperone does not normaly disturb any of my hobby and normaly they dissapear in a while when the thumbs up are given. What was so special about this 25 yo 5. 3 tall pretty female speciment was that she was so shy. First of all she could not look at me. Me and the chaperone was talking and laughing away (she was ugly bugly by the way) while ms pretty was holding her hands infront of her face and chuckled like a very small girl. It was kind of embarresing but what the hell, I don't live here and would leave soon anyway. Secondly she did not dare to talk or ask me anything. At first this was cute but after 10 minutes it started to irritate me big time. As she drank a bit luckely she eased up after a while, thanks God.

Chaperone told us good night and good luck and we wentup in room. There the tiger woke up and we kissed and fucked the rest of the night with only small breaks to recoupe. This was one hell of a slimmy as I tried to lift some skin from her stomach without succeeding. She gave away a hell of a performance and swallowed and did things unheard of. A totaly change of events so to speak. Well, I have ran into simular situations prior to this and knows if I just bare my vits and not freek out the first few minutes the shy ones can be pretty radical in bed. But this girl outside bed performance was one for the book. Due to english not beeing my first language I probably did not describe her shyness enough. It was a "you had to be there" moment. Pretty extreme so to speak.

CallSign Papa
06-24-15, 06:16
Superb FRs.

BTW what did you pay for the apartment?It was $158 per night, but I expensed it through work DS. Happy to share a link to the place from AirBnB on private message if you're interested.


It was a "you had to be there" moment. Pretty extreme so to speak.It's does always seem to be the quiet ones to watch out for Skogis!

Hutsori
06-24-15, 11:29
Words. Lot of well written words.

I enjoyed staying in Rockwell a lot and I would totally recommend it. I've never ever felt threatened in Makati, even stumbling out of Burgos at 3 am and walking back to Poblacion on previous trips, but Rockwell has a much more relaxed vibe whilst only being 5 minutes away. As always, a great trip.Three excellent FRs that definitely merit report-of-distinction recognition, which I see WC has already done. A good solution to girls' residue removal, too. One can have immense fun hunting outside the bars. You have more patience than I listening to a girl's tale of woe and misery, but it pays off for Ann. Anyway, thanks for great reads.

OneIpole
06-25-15, 16:00
So, did it all goes as swimmingly for the rest of my stay? Of course it didn't. This is Manila. I had no-shows (2) one of which I REALLY wanted to meet (20 year old former Miss <insert name of southern province>) , she was really something and was supposed to arrive for lunch at 1 in Makati, but by 2. 30 I finally realised her "I'm lost in taxi" really meant "I'm lazy, I ain't coming bozo". I had one girl show up who just blatantly wasn't the girl in the Facebook profile and rated about a 3/10 on the looks scale and a 2/10 on the charm scale (I didn't even have the grace to make it through my cappuccino, before making my excuses and GTFO).

I also met the kind of model you hope never to meet, the kind who's drama's far outweigh their beauty.

Ann - 25 years old and Ann fit the profile. Tall, slim, tanned, her FB page bursting to the seams with bikini shots that would make most men board the first available flight to NAIA. But I was ambivalent about meeting her. For starters, she'd asked for money to help with her sick mom / nan / son on the first day we chatted. And about 5 times more in the two months we occasionally chatted. That's a clear warning sign. But we still had a friendly, flirty, occasionally naughty vibe going that included mention of her coming to stay in my condo for a few days (if only I had the time). And so Sunday lunchtime we met finally at Draft and thus began "the litany of sorrow". Two straight hours of problems problems problems with no time to draw breath, and how this person was doing her harm and that person was taking advantage and on and on it went. By the end I'd completely exhausted my admittedly scarce array of sympathetic looks and useless but well meaning cliches about staying positive and things getting better. I'm not saying she didn't have problems or that her concerns weren't valid, I'm just saying I wasn't the answer to them.

At one point, whilst I was still harbouring ambitions of getting into her underwear I asked how much would solve her problems. 20 k for this, 40 k for that, 80 k for this. But I then decided going to my condo would be a bad idea. No way. No chance.

In my condo Ann decided that while I sink into a bottle of scotch she'd augment her ongoing story by showing me photos on her phone. Clearly not that fussed about editing, in between the photos of her son / mom / nana (none of whom looked sick so far as I could tell), were a number of photos of her with western looking guys, including one of her naked in the shower obviously taken by her guest. Not even a flicker of "oopsy", just onto the next and the next. And before you say it, I don't have double standards, I sleep around, she clearly does too, I have no problem at all, but I don't show her the photos of me and my girls.

After an hour or so I made the excuse of not feeling well and asked if I could pay for her taxi home. Finally getting the message Ann went into a remarkable personality u-turn and became smiley, funny Nurse Ann but alas the damage was done and taking 1000 with her (I know I know) Ann departed.

The moral of the story is always listen to your gut, your dick has shit for brains.

But in Manila "Plan B" is your friend (and I don't mean the bar on Burgos). I assumed I'd have a few drop outs, and wanted to make sure I have viable backups. Knowing time would be tight I had three of four sure things. Two were girls I'd met on Viber on a previous trip who were P2 P, two (again on Viber) were very naughty young things who just wanted an afternoon or evening of fun (with taxi paid of course) as long as I promised to work hard to get them off.

And thus when my Saturday lunch date failed to show, I let Tina know to get her cute butt over to my condo. She arrived in an hour, and brought her favourite toy with her. For a 22 year old she was incredibly outgoing and seemed to feel comfortable at my place in seconds. After a whisky each she went about teaching me how to get the best out of the toy she brought with her which I was glad to do. This is my kind of pinay, you could see in her eyes she wanted to get off and I was just a means to an end. Towards the end I decided to see just how naughty she was and started to inch my finger into her ass, "very bad man", which I took to mean, go for it. We tried, she was a real sport but there was no way if would fit, so after changing condoms we then decided to see how flexible she was. Turns out, she could've been a Romanian Gymnast. Was a great session and I had a few small gifts laying around which she delightfully accepted. I asked if I could give her more than the taxi (because after about two hours I need to start preparing for my next guest) but she seemed happy with our meeting and when I put 2000 on the kitchen table only picked up 1000. Definitely worth a repeat when I'm back next week.

I also met Valerie, by far the most petite girl I know in Manila which makes it doubly impressive that she's able to do what she does. I first met her a few trips back when she was waitressing at the sports bar above the old Hooters in Makati. On our first night together I'd bet her 2000 extra that she wouldn't be able to fit me in her ass (because I genuinely didn't think it possible). I was wrong and whilst it was an expensive loss it was also an enjoyable one. So over she came and like old friends we were soon naked. She said she wanted to try it in the ass in front of a mirror, standing up, and when I pointed out the physical impracticalities of the fact that stood up I was almost hitting her on the chin with my dick (because she's short, not because I'm long), we then improvised using some furniture. Naughty little minx.

I met one or two other girls either for coffee or lunch before I flew out, but was keen to save all my remaining energy for Tin who I was seeing on Monday night (my last night). She came over and we ordered pizza, drank more wine, watched a movie and then stayed up until about 5 am to make sure we made the most of the time we had left. Tin is definitely a girl I could date if I lived in Manila, but given the distance and infrequency of my trips we decided it'll be an adhoc thing. Although that hasn't stopped us whatsapping most days.

I enjoyed staying in Rockwell a lot and I would totally recommend it. I've never ever felt threatened in Makati, even stumbling out of Burgos at 3 am and walking back to Poblacion on previous trips, but Rockwell has a much more relaxed vibe whilst only being 5 minutes away. As always, a great trip.Your the man! Awesome read, how you have found the time to set shit up that well and then close the deals is amazing. I have none of your ability to be patient and work the shit out to a good result. But, that's why you banged out some real beauties! Ery Awesome dude. I really wonder no who the fuck you are as Treehouse is my hangout!

Cheers.

CallSign Papa
06-25-15, 21:28
Your the man! Awesome read, how you have found the time to set shit up that well and then close the deals is amazing. I have none of your ability to be patient and work the shit out to a good result. But, that's why you banged out some real beauties! Ery Awesome dude. I really wonder no who the fuck you are as Treehouse is my hangout!

Cheers.

Thanks for the moral support. I will freely admit that if you added up all the hours I spent chatting (on FB) to each girl I met, it would easily be 20-30 hours per pussy, at least. Personally, I consider it time well spend, but some may disagree. As for Treehouse, it wasn't a frequent spot, just handy for the occasional pre-midnight jumping off point.

I do miss Hooters in Poblacion. Some of those girls were truly fabulous.

Cool Traveler
06-26-15, 18:41
I debated whether to post this, as it pertains to only me. But I decided to post, so members here can be aware of something very interesting I discovered at Intercon.

I fly out of LOS Angeles before getting to my point of interest around Asia regularly. My base for Asia is Manila. I stay at Intercontinental Hotels, and as a platinum member get all the perks, upgrades etc. Etc.

I have been staying at the Intercon. In Makati (Ayala Ave.). The past 2 month probably stayed there about 4 times, extending my trip up to 3 days each time. Anyway, a girl connected with me on Skype. And she took sort of an unhealthy interest in me. Almost close to a stalking level. At Intercon. I know just about every security guy there. I always felt safe and still do. I have a level of protection.

Anyways, to cut the story short, this girl has been following my exploits the past month. And on my stay couple of weeks, ago, she mentioned something about one of the girls I "dated". And the following trip, she asked how I liked the virgin girl, I had spent the 2 days with, on that trip. And the girl I met, was a virgin. She included other details. This freaked me out. Only way someone could have found all this out was, if they have access to my Skype, or if they were in the room with us. So, I checked. All the suites, at Intercontinental have video camera's in them. I cornered one of the security guys, who did not deny it. I went to my room, and looked all over. And found the camera. Right above the smoke detector. If any of you stay in this hotel, check it out for me. Maybe I am imagining things. Two subsequent rooms had cameras in them too, and ow I carry a tape thingy and cover it up.

The security guy told me most of the high end hotels "probably" have them for "security". So, be aware, and be forewarned. Do a cursory check when you check into a high end hotel room.

CallSign Papa
06-27-15, 06:06
The security guy told me most of the high end hotels "probably" have them for "security". So, be aware, and be forewarned. Do a cursory check when you check into a high end hotel room.Absolutely shocking if true.

Member #4387
06-27-15, 06:27
Well I don't know what is true or not about the Intercon, Makati but I doubt higly rooms are CCTV'ed. Lets say if my Ascott apt is cammed I let the viewers have a lot of amature porn to watch. No sweat broken here. Maybe stop drink hallusionating stuffs.

Asian Rain
06-27-15, 07:49
aSo, I checked. All the suites, at Intercontinental have video camera's in them. I cornered one of the security guys, who did not deny it. I went to my room, and looked all over. And found the camera. Right above the smoke detector. If any of you stay in this hotel, check it out for me. Maybe I am imagining things. Two subsequent rooms had cameras in them too, and ow I carry a tape thingy and cover it up.

The security guy told me most of the high end hotels "probably" have them for "security". So, be aware, and be forewarned. Do a cursory check when you check into a high end hotel room.So you discovered that a major global hotel chain has video cams in the guest rooms and you did not get a pic of the device? Nor did you confront hotel management about it? And you stayed there again? Yep, makes complete sense. Provide some evidence of this cam that you found right above the smoke detector.

Ikksman
06-27-15, 08:02
I debated whether to post this, as it pertains to only me. But I decided to post, so members here can be aware of something very interesting I discovered at Intercon. {S N I P}

All the suites, at Intercontinental have video camera's in them. I cornered one of the security guys, who did not deny it. I went to my room, and looked all over. And found the camera. Right above the smoke detector. {S N I P}
Intriguing post! But a few questions:

• How do you know it was a video camera? They can be disguised in many different ways.
• What do you mean by "right above the smoke detector"? I cannot picture this position.
• Most 5 star hotels have both smoke and heat detectors. Can you identify which is which? Does the Intercon have both? A few hotels even have flame detectors in addition to smoke and heat detectors.
• If there was a recognisable cam in the ceiling, do you think that other guests would have noticed the device and publicly exposed the spying?
• Even if there was a cam in the room, how would the girl get access to the files?
• Did the security guy truly understand your questions? They often just agree to all questions.

WRT Skype, it is relatively easy to identify the IP address of the computer when a person is actually using Skype. It is not so easy to eavesdrop on a Skype conversation or access archived conversations unless you belong to an organisation which has been given 'backdoor" access. I doubt this girl is an NSA agent!

Thanks for posting - intriguing!

Ikks.

Simian
06-27-15, 08:28
Intriguing post! But a few questions:

WRT Skype, it is relatively easy to identify the IP address of the computer when a person is actually using Skype. It is not so easy to eavesdrop on a Skype conversation or access archived conversations unless you belong to an organisation which has been given 'backdoor" access. I doubt this girl is an NSA agent!

Thanks for posting - intriguing!

Ikks.Skype is known to be very hackable and especially through WiFi. Even if you don't actually hack someone else's Skype, it is possible to view Skype behaviour on WiFi. This happened to me when someone stole my pal's contact and Skyped him at home preventing to me a friend of mine in order to run a scam.

I cannot say exactly whether it is possible to listen to both sides of a Skype phone call via Wifi but it would not surprise me if it were possible.

BrainDrain
06-27-15, 08:39
she asked how I liked the virgin girl, I had spent the 2 days with, on that trip. And the girl I met, was a virgin. She included other details. This freaked me out.The insecure pinay is always asking questions like "Do you have other girl?" "Are you really alone tonight?" They are fishing questions which are easily and best denied. Woul dyou consider that on previous conversation you may have mentioned that you were looking for a Virgin Girl. It was just a fishing question to ask how your virgin girl was. The co-incidence and resulting paranoia was just that, a co-incidence.

Member #4387
06-27-15, 09:20
My best bet is that our beloved friend CoolTraveller was tripping. This paranoid I can hardly imagine I've ever been. Big changed hotels would be in lot of troubles if this was a MO. Calm down folks this is just bola bola.

GoodEnough
06-27-15, 11:05
Most of the five star hotels in Makati are members of luxury hotel groups that routinely verify the extent to which individual hotels in the group are maintaining predetermined standards. It seems logical to assume that prior to the installation of hidden cameras that would violate the privacy statutes of the countries in which these hotels are incorporated, such installations would have to be sanctioned by the InterCon Group, the Fairmont Group, and so on. I doubt that such approvals would be forthcoming very quickly.

GE.

Cool Traveler
06-29-15, 23:06
Maybe I am paranoid as Skog put it. Who knows? But, if any of you stay there. Right above the smoke detector, there is a circular device. Looks like a plastic pipe with a lens in it. My next trip, I will take a picture. Hahaha, didn't even think of that.

She had details, and I did ask her, and she responded that she had a friend at the hotel. But there is no way, anyone could know about the virgin pinay. Unless they were in the room.

And to the question, why I went back there. My office had already booked the rooms. When you travel like I do, a lot of times, you can't cancel the room at the last minute. I stopped there on the way to China, then to HK, and was back in Makati, 4 days later. On the return trip, the new suite I was given, had the same exact thing. Two different rooms. Do I want to take it seriously, and take it to management. Hell, no! I do not want the publicity.

I want someone else, other than me to check it. I love the Intercontinental's. Staying at the Paris Intercon Marceau end of this month.


My best bet is that our beloved friend CoolTraveller was tripping. This paranoid I can hardly imagine I've ever been. Big changed hotels would be in lot of troubles if this was a MO. Calm down folks this is just bola bola.

Charlie Horse
06-30-15, 01:26
Maybe I am paranoid as Skog put it. Who knows? But, if any of you stay there. Right above the smoke detector, there is a circular device. Looks like a plastic pipe with a lens in it. Did it look like this?

http://www.stalbansvt.com/vertical/Sites/%7B6057F00C-4FBC-4942-B5A5-C142459B1038%7D/uploads/%7B2C8037E1-32D4-42D4-B1AF-AA70EF750464%7D.JPG

I wouldn't worry too much.

FreebieFan
06-30-15, 01:41
I fly out

Anyways, if they have access to my Skype, or if they were in the room with us. So, I checked. All the suites, at Intercontinental have video camera's in them. I cornered one of the security guys, who did not deny it. I went to my room, and looked all over. And found the camera. Right above the smoke detector. If any of you stay in this hotel, check it out for me. Maybe I am imagining things. Two subsequent rooms had cameras in them too, and ow I carry a tape thingy and cover it up.

The security guy told me most of the high end hotels "probably" have them for "security". So, be aware, and be forewarned. Do a cursory check when you check into a high end hotel room.I don't know you, or your level of paranoia but having been a vendor to 5 star hotels such as Marriott Hilton Hyatt Shangri La Fairmont and being intimately aware of most of these companies brand standards AND having a very good knowledge of how security works in Manila hotels I'm sorry to say but there aint no cameras in any hotel room.

Firstly its illegal to record information from private hotel rooms unless its been issued by a warrant. This is Philippines law. Secondly given that theres a reasonable level of European and US guests in these hotels, with all their laws about taking of personal information and data without permission, there would be an outcry.

Third how would a girl know how to view tapes that are digitally recorded for up to 90 days (Philippines law for digital saving and 7 years for paper records) unless she had access to a hotels CCTV data entry point.

Fourth, hotels employ a mix of permanent security staff, plus the majority, the door guys, the bag searchers, the perimeter people are all outsourced. And within hotels there is a clear delineation of who sees what and the security guard with whom you come into contact are generally not the hotel staff.

I would be happy to detail more but this is a sex site. I can only say that if you suspect such an issue, go to the General Manager and have him show you what it is that you have seen. I believe the current GM there is Christian P.

Security guard will and do not have correct information as they generally work for an outsourced company and are rotated according to the contracts that the outsourced company has. They are not a good source of correct information.

Ikksman
06-30-15, 02:47
Maybe I am paranoid as Skog put it. Who knows? But, if any of you stay there. Right above the smoke detector, there is a circular device. Looks like a plastic pipe with a lens in it. My next trip, I will take a picture. Hahaha, didn't even think of that. {S N I P}Possibly an old style heat detector that uses a meltable fuse or bi-metal strips.

But not a very helpful description of the device! How big, how long, what colours, transparent plastic, etc, etc? And I still don't understand how it can be "right above the smoke detector". If it was above the detector, then the detector would block the 'lens', and anyway, you wouldn't be able to see the device, unless the smoke detector was hanging down from the ceiling??!!??!!

I also agree with FF's comments. So the odds of it being a 'spy' cam are about a million to one!

Member #4387
06-30-15, 02:50
Maybe I am paranoid as Skog put it. Who knows? But, if any of you stay there. Right above the smoke detector, there is a circular device. Looks like a plastic pipe with a lens in it. My next trip, I will take a picture. Hahaha, didn't even think of it.We hereby appoint u to be our paranoid friend. Freebiefan have a sane mind and a practical approach to this matter you can read up on. So have I. Like FF I have stayed numerous times in high changed hotels globaly. I have friends beeing managers and in a general view guest privacy is of major concern to these hotels. One case of a hotel CCTVing its guests would make them go out of biz or atleast they will find themself in a major trouble. Ofcourse if warranted by a court decission the hotel is not in charge of the surveilance and officials would be the one viewing it (whoever that might be).

Just to make sure I snapped a few photos of some cam devices in my room incl a two way mirror. So far as I fuck multiple times a day in here I guess the viewers must have enjoyed (this is all in good humor Cool Traveler and no mocking). I will ask for a dvd copy when i leave..

Hutsori
06-30-15, 11:47
Maybe I am paranoid as Skog put it. Who knows? But, if any of you stay there. Right above the smoke detector, there is a circular device. Looks like a plastic pipe with a lens in it. My next trip, I will take a picture. Hahaha, didn't even think of that.
Just bring some tape and cover the "lens" you imagine to be there. No tape? Use chewing gum.

Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not watching you. Gotta find a way, a better way...

X Man
06-30-15, 11:58
Polly wants a cracker.


Just bring some tape and cover the "lens" you imagine to be there. No tape? Use chewing gum.

Just because you're paranoid don't mean they're not watching you. Gotta find a way, a better way...

CoolBoyIshan
07-02-15, 15:35
Hi All,

Can you help me with a place that gives a good happy ending massage. Near Glorietta?

If there is a possibility of full service. Even better.

Thanks.

Finder99
07-04-15, 17:05
I have been relocated from a European country to live and work in Makati. I have been reading the posts in this thread as regards to mongering and most of the options involve going to clubs, bars or having lots of free time to get girls from DIA and similar. The most free time I can get is about 120 minutes, and I cannot plan when I will have the free time. Is there any place in Makati, where you can pick up a girl and go do the deed. ? What do the locals do? Those who live in or around Makati, where do they go. ?

My family is with me and also because of my colleges at my company, I have to be discreet and quick. Post your answers here or you can message me.

Thank you.

WestCoast1
07-04-15, 23:23
I have been relocated from a European country to live and work in Makati. I have been reading the posts in this thread as regards to mongering and most of the options involve going to clubs, bars or having lots of free time to get girls from DIA and similar. The most free time I can get is about 120 minutes, and I cannot plan when I will have the free time. Is there any place in Makati, where you can pick up a girl and go do the deed. ? What do the locals do? Those who live in or around Makati, where do they go. ?

My family is with me and also because of my colleges at my company, I have to be discreet and quick. Post your answers here or you can message me.

Thank you.Are you asking where to pick up girls? Or where to take them on short notice? If you want a true 'quickie', go to Amazonia in Malate. Girls (usually older) can be found downstairs in the bar, and they have short-time rental rooms upstairs.

FuyangMan
07-05-15, 00:45
Are you asking where to pick up girls? Or where to take them on short notice? If you want a true 'quickie', go to Amazonia in Malate. Girls (usually older) can be found downstairs in the bar, and they have short-time rental rooms upstairs.As a Makati resident I would say that you can get fast action upstairs at many of the Burgos St bars in the karaoke rooms, but it will cost you an arm and a leg! I don't recommend it though, nor that you mention that place if you work for an upscale company there. Your best bet will be play a long game with your many female workmates. There will be plenty of takers believe me, whether you are married or not, and you can come to an arrangement for time and place. If you live in a condo the same will be true there, especially the paid helpers for the rich families. Temptation is everywhere my friend, in shops, supermarket checkouts, leaflet bill handers-outers, even policewomen. There used to be quick action in the 'prayer room' at GoGo Bananas in Kalayaan Ave, but that was years ago. I think it's the Aussie Sports Bar now. Others may have more to add about that one. No way can you get to Malate and back in two hours LOL.

Good luck!

Hutsori
07-05-15, 13:57
I have been relocated from a European country to live and work in Makati. I have been reading the posts in this thread as regards to mongering and most of the options involve going to clubs, bars or having lots of free time to get girls from DIA and similar. The most free time I can get is about 120 minutes, and I cannot plan when I will have the free time. Is there any place in Makati, where you can pick up a girl and go do the deed. ? What do the locals do? Those who live in or around Makati, where do they go. ?

My family is with me and also because of my colleges at my company, I have to be discreet and quick. Post your answers here or you can message me.

Thank you.Of everything you've written this comment is what will hamstring you most: "I cannot plan when I will have the free time. " Does this mean you expect to suddenly find 120 minutes, call a girl, and expect her to show up quickly? Anything is possible, but this is unlikely. You might get lucky and find a girl who lives nearby. It seems you're restricted to work hours since you have to spend your free time with family, and if your work hours are from 8 am - 6 pm there's traffic to deal with. Checking in and out of hotels will take time. Sounds all very rushed and unpleasant to me.

If you're able to gain better control of your play time and find some girls who can meet you in short notice rent a studio flat near (walking-distance) your office. Have the girls meet you there.

PirateMorgan
07-05-15, 14:09
Simple question. Where do you go for an hour of privacy?

Hutsori
07-05-15, 14:23
Simple question. Where do you go for an hour of privacy?Sogo (EDSA at Gaudalupe), Victoria Court Buendia (technically in Pasay, but close to Makati), Eurotel. Travel times vary.

Hutsori
07-05-15, 14:28
If you live in a condo the same will be true there, especially the paid helpers for the rich families.Dangerous advice if it is to hook up with the help in the same condo where one's family lives. I'm single and I'd never hook up with a maid who works in my condo. She can come knocking anytime she wishes. There she is, crouched in a ball wailing in front of you door. Lovely. If you have a lot of visitors it's inevitable you'll bump into one the maids in the elevator or lobby.