Makati

[Drukyul2000]

In my experience they rarely offer more than a simple massage up front. However, I've found it very effective to exchange cell numbers and text a friendly and polite but non-negotiable offer with specific requirements. Try this with all the most attractive ones, go about your merry way, and you'll almost surely get what you want from one or more of them. There is definitely some kind of peer pressure or boss pressure not to offer anything more than a massage, but they all have off hours.What I understood is that massage is only a code word for the actual deed. Please never take the massage, it horrible just ask them for the real action and 1500 to 2000 is a reasonable price IMHO. Even if you cannot be direct with them just take their cell phone number, all them carry cards with their contact details, message them at your convenience. Most of the seem to be safe, staying in Makati I relied on them for some quick action and was never disappointed.

[WestCoast1]

Even if you cannot be direct with them just take their cell phone number, all them carry cards with their contact details, message them at your convenience. Most of the seem to be safe, staying in Makati I relied on them for some quick action and was never disappointed.I can be direct. But you should grab the biz cards with the girls number of every cutie you see on the street (ignore the rest). That way later, even if you can't remember what they looked like, you have a small portfolio of cuties to contact.

You might end up with this morsel, a 22 year-old SW who agreed later thru txts to 1 hour massage (it was at best fair, not crappy and not good) and 2 hours multiple pops for 1500. First the massage, then 1 pop did the job, then we lounged about talking for an hour or so. Real sweetie also. Can't wait to get back at her. She's one of the rare girls I gave a tip to.

[JamesOcla]

The smart approach is to smile and say you want to fuck. Their massage skills are nonexistent so if you like a crappy massage than go for it. I was there mid March and was walking back to hotel when I saw this one. She looked clean and tight so I talked to her. She said, massage sir? I said, no I just want to fuck you. She said P2000 and I said P1500, we then walked to my hotel. She was exactly what I thought she was, small, clean and tight. Don't waste your time w / the massage.OK, sounds good. So the plan is to be direct and maybe get their number to talk on line. Maybe they will come over after their shift. I will try both approaches.

Thanks everyone.

[WestCoast1]

OK, sounds good. So the plan is to be direct and maybe get their number to talk on line. Maybe they will come over after their shift. I will try both approaches.

Thanks everyone.That's a bit confusing. Are you talking about Burgos freelancers (they don't have a shift, as soon as she gets a customer or two under her belt she's going home to her kids)? Or Burgos bargirls (they have a shift).

[Wicked Roger]

OK, sounds good. So the plan is to be direct and maybe get their number to talk on line. Maybe they will come over after their shift. I will try both approaches.

Thanks everyone.PM me for a few tips is best.

[Socker]

OK, sounds good. So the plan is to be direct and maybe get their number to talk on line. Maybe they will come over after their shift. I will try both approaches.

Thanks everyone.Sure you can get numbers and quite possibly miss an opportunity. If you see a massage lady you like make it work right then.

You dictate the price and service you want. Then she can decide if that's good for her. With real good service you can always get their numbers (after the fact) and tip them too if you're like me.

These are street ladies and they just might not be back for weeks. Take them when you find them, getting numbers doesn't always pan out.

Elementary mongering is what we're talking about here. Enough said already. Go get your dick wet.

[CallSign Papa]

Makati has been very quiet for the last few days, all of the malls shut, most restaurants and bars. A few of the sports bars have still be doing roaring trade (Howzat, Heckle & Jeckle etc). Things heating up again tonight.

I've been safely holed up in my condo hosting a selection of remarkably friendly ladies all keen to reveal their hidden talents (see Photo Gallery). Although I will say this, been angling for an evening with a girl I've been flirting relentlessly with. She's done lots of magazine modelling and is officially employed as a "brand ambassador". So Thursday night comes around, we have a lovely dinner and then back to mine when the sexual energy was electric. As soon as we're naked, total starfish (and my first starfish experience in Manila), I was shocked and amazed in equal amounts that a girl this outrageously hot could lack any real enthusiasm or talent for the naughtier things in life. I've decided that this has to be discussed openly and honestly, even if it means she gets offended and we don't meet again. Because damn, that sucked.

Tonight it's time to for a few beers and a date before I jet off.

[WestCoast1]

I've been safely holed up in my condo hosting a selection of remarkably friendly ladies all keen to reveal their hidden talents (see Photo Gallery).Great pics. Love the natural breasticles.


As soon as we're naked, total starfish (and my first starfish experience in Manila), I was shocked and amazed in equal amounts that a girl this outrageously hot could lack any real enthusiasm or talent for the naughtier things in life. I've decided that this has to be discussed openly and honestly, even if it means she gets offended and we don't meet again. Because damn, that sucked.Luck of the draw (the box of chocolates), isn't it? Let her be the one who suggests you get back together (otherwise consider dropping her, unless you're just looking for a hottie on your arm while out for drinks). If she does suggest a repeat, make your feelings known about her being more athletic during the naughty (in fact, don't meet with her until you've discussed the matter ahead of time). Any number of things might have caused her to starfish, and some simple sharing of thoughts / feelings might lead to a hotter experience next time.

Interesting, isn't it, how we assume someone's sexual desire (or level of heat) from their looks?

Makati morsel below. Luck of the draw, very enthusiastic to please, PSE, as mentioned recently on this thread. Chocolate thunder.

[MrWoolyBooly]

Interesting, isn't it, how we assume someone's sexual desire (or level of heat) from their looks?
Agreed. I've tried and tried to figure out some correlation between pre-sex and during-sex observations. Appearance seems to have nothing to do with it. The only correlation I've found is that ladies formerly active but currently in a sexless drought are very enthusiastic, much like guys. FWIW my best combined scores of looks, eagerness, openness, and skills have come from the 23-26 year old range. I should stick to that range but am easily distracted. The sense of distraction by attraction is addicting.

[X Man]

Someone suggested visiting Spicy Fingers in Makati. Greek food / live band. Does anyone have any observations? The last time I saw a live band in Makati was at Hard Rock.

[Firebird]

Someone suggested visiting Spicy Fingers in Makati. Greek food / live band. Does anyone have any observations? The last time I saw a live band in Makati was at Hard Rock.X Man. I believe that Spicy Fingers in Makati is the best place to be in the evening. Fantastic food. Bands are great. Girl "talent" waiting for you at the bar. It gets quite crowded since it is so popular.

I go there almost every night when I am in Makati. Staff is terrific! Enjoy!!

I will definitely be there my next trip to Makati. May 6 to 22.

[Simian]

2nd Night Out.

A couple of touts fell in with me and pointed out the "Christmas lights" in the distance. Then no matter what I said the older of the 2 would not drop off and leave me to it. I enter a long single wide shop house bar. . .
As I come out the tout is there and he "has talked the mama down to 2,000". . . .

The mama returns and tells me it's 3,500 for the bar but "will discount to 3000 for you". OK. Then the girl tells me she needs 5000. Without thinking I laugh out loud and prepare to split. Soon the price is down to 3000. Last night's easy going "up to you" is that other girl with the milky tits. I agree to this. She goes to change, I pay up then proceed to wait for her and wait for my 600 P change. It's a noticeable wait and when she is finally back I still have no change. She says "let's go" I say "I'm waiting for my money" as I pivot and look to the cashier's seat. I see her then hand the tray to the waitress and now my change is handed to me. I think they were waiting to see if I would forget it and walk out with "Kelly". In the room I'm a happy guy and we seem to be doing well. We are only a couple of hours into the experience when I suggest another round. She responds with the line about 5,000 P again. This conversation quickly spirals downward as she spouts a list of needs that her 2 yo daughter has. Looks like we're done here Kelly. So I'm left with a feeling that she won in some way. Generated a "runner scenario" and that was that. On Tuesday I went to Angeles and will continue there.Ah, the joys of bar girls in Manila / Makati. That is why I turned to the naughty massage places when I was there. No nonsense and if you asked you could get to see the girl. If they offered you a rough looking one, you just left and went elsewhere and next time they would treat you better. I am so out of date about the massage places and my favorite ones are long closed (they were on a street behind the big shopping malls). But you can still probably find plenty of places with massage around Makati, such as Burgos street or nearby.

Your walkabout in that area outside Makati is probably not to be recommended. Inside that bar complex is fine but I would take a taxi to the complex and back and not be the target of touts who could turn into muggers real fast.

[X Man]

Thanks for the quick reply. I'm not really fond of "crowded" but If the music is good, why not.


X Man. I believe that Spicy Fingers in Makati is the best place to be in the evening. Fantastic food. Bands are great. Girl "talent" waiting for you at the bar. It gets quite crowded since it is so popular.

I go there almost every night when I am in Makati. Staff is terrific! Enjoy!!

I will definitely be there my next trip to Makati. May 6 to 22.

[Wicked Roger]

Someone suggested visiting Spicy Fingers in Makati. Greek food / live band. Does anyone have any observations? The last time I saw a live band in Makati was at Hard Rock.Definitely worth a visit XMan as I go there when Makati apart from my normal haunts, been there with cuties and seen a few others that are nice also, and the is food OK as well.

[SaltyPete]

Someone suggested visiting Spicy Fingers in Makati. Greek food / live band. Does anyone have any observations? The last time I saw a live band in Makati was at Hard Rock.I don't think they have Greek food there, but I never ate there. It is my favorite place to hang out.

They usually have two bands. Both are good, but stick around for the second band. They do a great rendition of "Come Together".

It does get crowded sometimes.

[CallSign Papa]

It does get crowded sometimes.Only been to the outside bit, will head inside next time.

[Crazy4Thai]

Ah, the joys of bar girls in Manila / Makati. That is why I turned to the naughty massage places when I was there. No nonsense and if you asked you could get to see the girl. If they offered you a rough looking one, you just left and went elsewhere and next time they would treat you better. I am so out of date about the massage places and my favorite ones are long closed (they were on a street behind the big shopping malls). But you can still probably find plenty of places with massage around Makati, such as Burgos street or nearby.

Your walkabout in that area outside Makati is probably not to be recommended. Inside that bar complex is fine but I would take a taxi to the complex and back and not be the target of touts who could turn into muggers real fast.Thanks for the input. To generalize a bit, I seem to have better experiences with massage providers in Thailand than with bar girls. There was so much to take in on my first PI trip that massage places were not even on my list. They do not seem to get much coverage here on the PI board. I'll make them a priority next trip.

[Member #4698]

I arrived back in MNL from Jakarta Wednesday. It has been a great trip and it felt good to be back where it all began on Feb 23. I tried to set out for Burgos and dinner around 8 pm, but there was a torrential downpour going on so I decided to have the buffet dinner at the Peninsula Hotel where I am staying. The buffet was sumptuous, but I ate too much and did not feel like going out afterwards so I hung by the pool and smoked a Cohiba. Later I rested in the room, but passed out instead of going out which was ok because I think I needed a sex break.

Thursday night was my reunion welcome home party with my two regulars in my hotel room and things got pretty wild. I guess I made the mistake of letting a 22 year old Pinay do the pouring. HA HA. We drank 3/4 of a bottle of Anejo Tequila and the girls were dancing off the walls. I shagged them in the shower, on the bed, and on the easy chair. Then because the girls were too drunk to go out, we ordered room service or at least we tried to order dinner, but we could not find the menu, so we had to call down for a waiter to come up and show us where the menu was. THEN we ordered dinner and everything was ok, although I am sure the waiter got an eyeful because the girls were still in rare form under the sheets and all over the room. I gave him a tip after he set up the dinner table for his trouble. Next time I will do the pouring.

P.S. the girls left around midnight. I saw them off to their taxi. Then cause I was still feeling pretty good, I took a taxi to Greenbelt. I was hanging out near Starbucks and Havana cafe talking to a couple of friendly FL's when I got a call from Michelle saying Sara had left her phone in the room. I said ok, tell her I will give it to her tomorrow. Then Sara got on the phone and asked where I was. I said Starbucks and she said they were at the hotel and they would come and get me. I told her no, I would come back and meet them in the lobby. When I arrived, Michelle was half asleep, but Sara was happy to see me. I admit I am a really nice guy! So Sara and I went up to the loom and sure enough the phone was on the night stand. We fooled around a little, but nothing too serious, and then we went back down to the lobby to get Michelle. I said goodbye to the girls a 2nd time that night and then this time I retired to my room. It was time for a little shut eye.

Friday afternoon the girls somehow managed to come over for an afternoon pool party around 2pm. The sun was shining, but Michelle forgot to bring her bathing suit. Amazing, but so charming. So no pool party which was ok because we were all a little hungover and nobody wanted anymore Tequila. 555. But I took turns shagging both girls while the free girl sat on my face. Good times! Then we went out for some Chinese food at the Tim Ho Wan, the Hong Kong place. Then back to the loom were everybody took a needed nap.

Sara woke up around 7 pm and said she had to go to work and Michelle wanted to go home. Bye Bye. I rested until around 9 pm and then I went out. I had some tacos at El Chupacabra. The place was packed, but I spotted an empty table adjacent to a table with two girls and I just sat down. Good tacos. Then I went walking around Burgos.

Kojax was loaded with sexy girls and plenty of customers. I had a good time and a nice conversation with a thin, pretty girl with small boobs. It was her 21st birthday and they had balloons up all over the stage in her honor. I bought her a couple of glasses of wine and we got friendly, if you know what I mean. I told her I could not barfine her tonight, but I would come back next Friday to see her. She was cool with that and I thought she was a very charming girl. I left Kojax around midnight and cruised up and down Burgos. I have to admit that there were a couple of cute massage girls out and about. I accepted a card from one of the cutest and told her I would keep the card and call her. She repeated the phrase keep and call and then I said goodbye.

There also was a very attractive girl standing around near Rogues trying to get customers to try her bar somewhere near, but not on Burgos. I talked to her for a while too and asked if she would be at the bar later. She said yes. I think she may have said the bar was called Royal something, but I am not sure. She was definitely hot though. Then I headed back to the hotel.

Today I have no plans, so I may head back to Burgos tonight or my regulars may drop by. They have not woken up yet, the little darlings. Sunday I am off to Palawan with the girls for our long anticipated beach holiday. Its good to be back in the PI.

[CallSign Papa]

I think she may have said the bar was called Royal something, but I am not sure. I would recommend that you try Royal, it's a smallish nightclub in Poblacion not far from A-venue Mall. Always a decent amount of up for it girls in their on Saturday nights. Around midnight is a good time.

[Stykler]

{Snip}
the Peninsula Hotel where I am staying.
{Even bigger snip}Natty. Have you enjoyed this hotel? Recommend or not?

[D Cups]

Keep those postcards coming, Natty!


. Its good to be back in the PI..

[CallSign Papa]

This girl is everything I love about the Phil.

20 years old and as shy as they come just 4 short months ago. Now she's like my own personal porn star. I get the feeling every crazy thing we try, it's her first time, or she's a good actress (and most pinay's are).

The latest thing was trying to pop her butt sex cherry, and trust me when I say, with a butthole that pretty, it had never been invaded. Or at least, that used to be true.

We took it slow, and steady, and gentle. Until she got fed up with the lack of progress and then she went to town, pushing back hard, shouting, moaning in discomfort, until we finally got there.

God bless this perverted little vixen. This one is not for sharing!

[WestCoast1]

This girl is everything I love about the Phil. SNIP God bless this perverted little vixen. This one is not for sharing!Where'd you find this cutie?

[CallSign Papa]

Where'd you find this cutie?I "dated" her older sister (who I met at Palace Pool Club one Saturday night). Few months later got a friend request on FB from her younger sister (who was then 19). I chatted with her on the proviso that we agreed it was probably best her older sister didn't know. From there it was pretty straight forward setting up our first meeting, which was lunch and didn't involve any rumpy pumpy.

[LongLunches]

Hi Guys,

Have rttf but nothing recent. Am back in Manila, looking to get some Azithromycin without script. Anyone know where I can do this?

I stay in Makati.

Thanks.

LL.

[CallSign Papa]

Hi Guys,

Have rttf but nothing recent. Am back in Manila, looking to get some Azithromycin without script. Anyone know where I can do this?
There are a number of Generic pharmacies in and around Poblacion / Burgos area, any of those will provide it over the counter. If you go a Watsons they may ask for for a prescription.

[LongLunches]

There are a number of Generic pharmacies in and around Poblacion / Burgos area, any of those will provide it over the counter. If you go a Watsons they may ask for for a prescription.Thanks, will report back on what I find.

[BrainDrain]

Thanks, will report back on what I find.Widely available. I'm still confident of the efficacy of this drug. It is single dose so the filipinos haven't yet encouraged the resistance.

[Torsk999]

Can someone with experience on Burgos street give me the heads up about the girls in scrubs on Burgos street. They seem like massage girls. They do look cute and you. Are they legit or are they scams? If I would take them I would take them to my room instead of a room they provide? Any feedback?

Thanks.Most girls offer sex but not all. What I learn many girls walking on the street and not wearing scrubs are in big need of money. Never pay the girl before the next day. There is a risk that she will leave you. If you there to have sex with girls do not be stupid with them. Give them at least 3 k for one night. I have many girls there on Burgos street I meet regularly.

[KrisMonger]

Was in Manila for a short 30 hour trip. First time out there. Did a lot of RTFF on this forum and it helped. Since it was labor day weekend -no traffic when I was there. Stayed in best Western Oxford (smack in middle of burgos with Plan be, Rogues and everything else literally a few 100 meters away) that was girl friendly. Went to Plan be around 10:30 PM, had a couple of drinks with an ok looking girl Carla or Charlene (she said she was from Davos) got some decent playtime in there itself, Given my long 20 hour flight. I just was not ready to barfine just yet. Went to rogues- didn't find anyone that was a standout. I had already done some pipelining through CL and one of them, a single 27 year mom whatsapped me saying she wanted to meet. Did some video checking to make sure she looked ok. She seemed pretty genuine over the call and was not really making any specific money requests Gave her the address and she was there in 15 minutes. Went to filling station near by for some greasy food- back to the room. Not a great body (really small tits) but she made it up with her attitude. Some serious GFE activity for an hour. Maybe it was jet lag or whatever. I just couldn't finish. She was patient and eventually we just dozed off. It was great to sleep with someone playing with the junior whenever she woke up. I was back on AM and went through more motions of CG, Reverse CG with a great CIM. Had her stay through the afternoon and we went around places and then came back and went at it again. I was ready to get back to airport late PM. Sent her off with a nice 4000 pesos donation and she was pretty happy about it!. While I was there- I noticed lot of good liking girls on Wechat as well including an Indonesian!. I am sure you have to go through the motions of validating wechat girls.

Bottom line is that Manila seems to have better value than Bangkok or Pattaya. Given the girls seem to be not that money driven (most of the pipelining activity was with girls- whose first question was "Are you married?). Almost all of them speak pretty decent English and add to the fact that cost seems to be not terrible either. I somehow I have a feeling that I will be going to Manila more often in the near future!

Kris.

[CallSign Papa]

had a couple of drinks with an ok looking girl Carla or Charlene (she said she was from Davos) Nice report, this is how you do it properly, do your research and know what to expect when you land. And you managed to meet a girl from Greece too.

And an FYI, WeChat can be a bit annoying, a lot of TS hiding behind other girl's photos. It's not really worth the bother when you have Poblacion and Burgos as your playground.

[BrainDrain]

Nice report, this is how you do it properly, do your research and know what to expect when you land. And you managed to meet a girl from Greece too.
.I too liked KrisMonger's FR although I thought the girl was from Switzerland (Davos). I also liked that he paid the girl fairly for having been on time and provided a full day of activity.

The FR also shows what pinay will do, they will slip into a full on friendship as if you are the only man in the world and they are committed to you for the rest of your life. I wonder if when they went around she was holding hands.

It really is a fun place.

BD.

[Red Kilt]

I too liked KrisMonger's FR although I thought the girl was from Switzerland (Davos).

He said she was from Davos but it was "lost in translation".

She is a filipina from Davao.

[KrisMonger]

He said she was from Davos but it was "lost in translation".

She is a filipina from Davao.Yup! My bad!. Davao it is!. Just to add to the report -few more tips.

Uber is super convenient in Manila -took it all the way from airport and to everywhere else I went. There is a great writeup on http://dreamtravelonpoints.com/2016/04/how-to-use-uber-at-manilas-naia-airport/ that literally walks you through how to take Uber from airport -you really can't mess this one up. GPS is a little bit iffy -it showed driver was 12 minutes away when the driver was pulling in. No big deal though!

If you are traveling from US. TMobile is just awesome -so you don't need to waste time on SIM card activity (which looked pretty straightforward there).

Kris.

[CallSign Papa]

He said she was from Davos but it was "lost in translation".

She is a filipina from Davao.Of course, I mistook Davos for being in Greece (it does sound Greek) instead of Switzerland, because I'm a bloody dunce.

[BrainDrain]

Uber is super convenient in Manila -took it all the way from airport and to everywhere else I went. There is a great writeup on http://dreamtravelonpoints.com/2016/04/how-to-use-uber-at-manilas-naia-airport/ that literally walks you through how to take Uber from airport -you really can't mess this one up. GPS is a little bit iffy -it showed driver was 12 minutes away when the driver was pulling in. No big deal though!
I had Uber driver pick me up at T3 which went well. Interestingly there was a guy who did pull up while we were booking, rolled his window and said "HI, I am your Uber driver". As I hadn't yet actually booked the car this was obviously a scam. Do always check the rego if the vehicles and that the person knows your name.

Thanks for your informative reports.

BD.

[ThomKatt]

Hey fellas,

Just came back from a trip from both Manila and Angeles City. Will post in the appropriate forums (not sure why we have a Manila forum and a Makati one as well, unless we absolutely have to separate them? So it was Easter break for me, so I wanted to go somewhere cheap and warm. Unfortunately, the rest of the world is wanting to do the same, so flight tickets are through the roof. The only place that fit my 2 criteria was Manila. But I made a grave error, I totally forgot that it's probably the biggest holiday in the country. I didn't even realize it until the day before my flight. I frantically tried to ask fellow members to see if the places were dead, but didn't get much of a response. Regardless, I was going to salvage as much as possible and try to have a good time regardless. My flight also arrives very late on a Thursday night / Friday morning, so I wasn't sure if I could get some late night poon tang. Well, the flight was super delayed, so I was pretty frustrated. I went straight to my hotel at the Makati Palace right on Burgos, though booking this hotel was a big mistake (more on this later). Turns out most of the places were closed, except for a couple.

I headed to PlanB first. And it was about 2 am. The mamasan (who is beautiful for a 40 year old) approaches me and asks me if I'm interested in anyone there. I do have to say there are some pretty damn good looking girls here tonight, but a lot of them were occupied by some douche bag frat boys. Bar fine is 3200 p. Not liking the other options, I try to head over to Bottoms. It's closed. Then try Rouges, that's closed.

I then head to Kojax and there were some decent lookers here as well, but not as hot as the ones in PlanB. I chat up one of the girls there, I think her name is Risa, and I discussed barfining her. But when I told her my hotel, she said she didn't want to come back. Unbeknownst to be, apparently some foreigner killed a WG there or something. This is bad juju, and many of the girls are really hesitant about going back with anyone staying there. I wished I had known this ahead of time, I would have booked somewhere else. The mamasan gets me another girl, a cute one, but when she came to talk to me, she was too shy, so I pushed her away. I told the mamasan what I'm looking for and willing to pay, and she only was willing to budge a little, so I told her how much they were willing to charge me at PlanB, she told me it's the same owners and you can go back there. So I paid my bill and left, and headed back to PlanB, unfortunately they were also closed. It was 3 am at this point, frustrated and horny, I head back to Kojax where the mamasan welcomes me with open arms. I chose another girl, a tall and cute one and barfine and negotiate for a good price for LT. However, bringing her back to my hotel, she forgot her ID completely, and the door guys wouldn't budge at all. I told them she's my GF or wife, but they weren't having it haha I told them I'll be back in 5 minutes. We run back to Kojax, and literally, most of the women have packed up and ready to leave, except for one, who was waiting for me the entire time, like she knew I would be back to come and get her.

Her name's Regine. 21.1 kid at 1 year old. Take her back to my hotel. She's a bit shy, and didn't want to get completely naked because of her stretch marks from her recent kid (with my experience with these girls, I should have known and come to expect this, yet I keep making the same mistakes haha I'll never learn). Eventually I convince to be comfortable and it's nothing to worry about. We get into the shower together, and she starts the BBBJ and DFK. Move to the bed for some more DFK and BBBJ where I fingerbang her from the side. I chit chat a bit here and there and realized that she doesn't speak much English at all! I go down on her and fingerbang and DATY, she has soaked the sheets. Put the cover on, cowgirl, mish with DFK, and then doggy. But all the alcohol I drank mixed with my pill gave me whiskey dick. I took the cover off and started to jerk myself into a frenzy. She makes out with me while massaging my balls. She's really eager to help and please, she gives me a BBBJ while tonguing the family jewels. She even opted to get on top, but I said it wasn't necessary, and had her lay on my side while she shoves her tongue into my mouth. Eventually I'm ready to burst, so I get on top of her and aim for her face, but she says no at first, but I said please this time and she looks away begrudgingly. I eventually unload a Peter North style shot all over her face and hair, I've never seen such a gooey mess from myself before. She goes and cleans up and I pass out.

We wake up early the next day, and I fingerbang her awake in the big spoon position. She's soaking again, and I go throw the cover on and start from the laying down spoon position, but someone called her, and she was in the middle of a phone call while I was doing her, both of us trying not to make any noises. The phone call ends, so I then do doggy, and then go in mish where I asked her if she wanted me to cum, but she didn't speak English so she didn't understand what I was saying haha and then I explode my juices. She gets cleaned up and was on her way. Kissed her goodbye, and made my way to Angeles City for a couple of days before returning. I'll post more of that later!

[G3100]

Visiting Makati (or Manila but staying in Makati) for a few days. Came before 8 pm last night but the traffic was bad as always so wasn't in the hotel before 9. 30. I was starving so just took some food in the hotel before heading to Burgos. Lots of FL approches you as you walk there, most girl but a lot of ladyboys as well. I turned down all and headed to Rogues. I have to say the quality there was quite good despite what I have read on this forum. Some old girls and no-stunners of course but a lot of cuties. Three girls swarmed around me immediate as usual, one of them giving me a massage. She was not too good looking so after a while a gave here 100 and she happily left. The two others was nice, one probably a 9/10 in my eyes the other maybe 7. We had some drinks and I bar fined both of them going back to the hotel.

Back at the hotel the trouble started. I told them clearly in the bar I took them for all night which they agreed, but back at the hotel they started to argue and say that they wanted to leave after we have done what was needed. It got quite heated but finally they agreed to stay until 9 am, but one of them had to leave 6 am. I said ok. Shower and then have some fun with both of them. Did not allow to bait and switch without changing the cover, fair enough. After a good while when we finish they started to argue again and wanted to leave. First I said I wouldn't let them and would not pay them if they left, but then it got so heated I told them I would give them only 1 k each if they left. I was very close to calling the security and maybe I should have. After much arguing one of them left and I paid her 2 k, the other stayed until morning (the best one) for 3 k. Had a good time with her but the whole situation was crazy.

Hope to have better luck tonight, and for sure I will be even more strict if same happens.

[CallSign Papa]

not sure why we have a Manila forum and a Makati one as well, unless we absolutely have to separate them?Generally this is because of the high concentration of bars near Burgos, which might otherwise flood the Manila forum. Splitting it out means the Manila thread can focus on Malate / EDSA etc. Seems to work fine.

[Red Kilt]

Just came back from a trip from both Manila and Angeles City. Will post in the appropriate forums (not sure why we have a Manila forum and a Makati one as well, unless we absolutely have to separate them? That's because they are 2 different cities in Metro Manila.

I think the original intent was for Manila to mean "old" Manila with Malate, Ermita, Tondo and maybe Pasay (where EDSA IEC is situated), but Manila has now become "everywhere other than Makati".

As CSP says, it seems to work quite well using these loose definitions, because Makati has Greenbelt and the Burgos bars.

Everywhere else can be posted in the Manila thread.

[Torsk999]

I'm almost sure you get water in it and same on bar across the street (don't remember the name on second bar).

Have not been to many bars where girls are working but I feel its very bad when they behave so desperately, both girls and the boss. I always prefer girls from the street.

[CallSign Papa]

This is just a brief aside related to the various options available to us in terms of communication with the fine young fillies of Makati.

Your frequency of visit to Manila really should define your contact strategy for the girls you're hoping to meet. If you're coming once or twice a year it really isn't worth the energy to chat with girls for months and months. Therefore getting dating sites a few weeks before you come and / or the bright lights of Burgos is a solid strategy.

If you're in Makati regularly (or semi-regularly), you'll quickly build up a list of contacts, and whilst some of them are totally ok with you suddenly reappearing and banging the brains out of them, most need a little bit of maintenance. Not just that, but by getting to know pinays on chat, the conversation will always evolve towards sex and fantasies and this really is a great way to understand which girls are worth the time and effort.

That's why I use Facebook and this is how it pays off. My account is fake, and I have friends who are mostly girls, mostly based in Manila. A while ago I sent a friend request to a girl who was a professional beauty queen (she accepted), we got chatting but as you can imagine she held herself in high regard and it left me cold. The upside was I friended a few other beauty queens because I had the first one on my list. I chatted with one of them (totally decently) and we eventually agreed to have dinner at Smith Butcher & Grill in Makati (which happened last night). I went with the long term view (no sex on the first date) which was bloody tough considering she arrived looking like every guy's asian fantasy (slim tanned legs a mile long). We had a very lovely relaxed time with lots of flirting, good wine and even by the dessert, eve though I felt like she'd say yes if I suggested going back to mine, we had a cocktail at a nearby bar (Bugsy's) and then I ordered an Uber for her.

*Side note. I'd already lined up a 22 year old Mandaluyongian to arrive to my condo at midnight. She has a body built for fun and no inhibitions except photos. And she has very long hair which is a blessing and a curse (she leaves it everywhere but at least it's easy to spot! She left at 3 am in another uber with 2. 5 k having been Wickedly Rogered.

This morning when the Beauty Queen and I again chatted on FB I joked about how hard it was to put her in a car home. We spent an hour discussing what might have happened and she told me how horny she was. 55 minutes later she was walking though my condo door and there followed 5 hours of sheer bliss. We ordered food in (I had pizza, she had salad) and when she left it was with the firm intention to return next week.

And that's how Facebook helped me bang a Beauty Queen. Marvellous.

[BrainDrain]

we had a cocktail at a nearby bar (Bugsy's) and then I ordered an Uber for her.

*Side note. I'd already lined up a 22 year old Mandaluyongian to arrive to my condo at midnight. She has a body built for fun and no inhibitions except photos. And she has very long hair which is a blessing and a curse (she leaves it everywhere but at least it's easy to spot! She left at 3 am in another uber with 2. 5 k having been Wickedly Rogered.Not trying to bang them on the first date is an excellent prong to this strategy. The girls such as this are use to being hunted and pressured on the first date and will quickly put you in the sex hunter basket. Sending them home knowing that you can wait really locks in the future goodness.

The other part I see in this strategy is knowing you have something lined up afterwards. It provides a level of security and focus to your conversations and doesn't leave you hunting for contacts at 11 pm.

Happy days.

BD.

[MrWoolyBooly]

Sending them home knowing that you can wait really locks in the future goodness.

The other part I see in this strategy is knowing you have something lined up afterwards. It provides a level of security and focus to your conversations and doesn't leave you hunting for contacts at 11 pm.Spot on. In an ideal situation with no need for work or sleep, I'd invite the ladies out or in alternating between sure things and either as individual world class beauties or in 2+ groups hoping for bucket list combinations. The sure things take the edge off interactions with the aspirational ones. It also allows those with inhibitions about meeting "just for sex" to imagine there's more to the relationship. One bucket list item of mine is a trio of pretty and very busty sisters aged around 21 to 30, although with the years the bellies are bulging. In conversation with the eldest, I mentioned that "of course every guy likes a threesome with two girls, but of course they have to both be open minded. " Eldest replied, "I'm closed minded. " I'll keep trying with words, alcohol or financial incentives. Odds are decent on getting them individually. I've "been with" the eldest several years ago at the Fersal Inn on Durban in Makati. Just imagining four, or even six, massive sibling gazoombas smothering me from every angle... I'm open to ideas on how to accomplish.

[Red Kilt]

This is just a brief aside related to the various options available to us in terms of communication with the fine young fillies of Makati.

Your frequency of visit to Manila really should define your contact strategy for the girls you're hoping to meet. If you're coming once or twice a year it really isn't worth the energy to chat with girls for months and months. Therefore getting dating sites a few weeks before you come and / or the bright lights of Burgos is a solid strategy.
Great story CSP.

Well done.

Just a small rider to your story. Maybe this should be in the "Chat Rooms" thread but I will put it here for continuity.

I think a lot of guys must start chatting online with girls much too early before they come to the Philippines.

I have had several girls in the past week express surprise (and then delight) to know that I am ACTUALLY in Manila right now.

Upon further discussion, these girls all said that most guys online all talk about meeting them some vague time "in the future" and that rarely happens, so the girls get really disillusioned about all the hollow and fake promises that they are given.

My advice would be for guys to be really low key in initial chats. If you have a definite date for your visit then tell them when (no need to be too exact. Like early in May or last week in June is OK) and they will be OK. Even better advice is to contact them a day or so before leaving home with an "I'll be there next week" line. Even better still, wait until you're in your hotel room and then hit up your random targets with a "I am here in Makati / Malate / Pasay / Davao / Cebu now and I wonder if we could meet".

Chances are they will drop everything and meet you within the hour (or two!)

[CallSign Papa]

Not trying to bang them on the first date is an excellent prong to this strategy.It definitely worked both ways too. Because I knew I wasn't under pressure to seal the deal same night I could really relax and be more engaged in our conversations. I wasn't distracted by the voice in the back of my head constantly trying to analyse the conversation for a way to turn it towards sex. You'd be surprised at the directions a conversation will go in when it's not all about putting dicks in holes.

[BrainDrain]

Spot on. In an ideal situation with no need for work or sleep, I'd invite the ladies out or in alternating between sure things and either as individual world class beauties or in 2+ groups hoping for bucket list combinations. The sure things take the edge off interactions with the aspirational ones.My record is three evening dinners in one night in AC. I just order the entre and then when the time for pleasantries and looking like a nice guy is up I explain I need to go back to work. Then move onto the next inspirational dinner and then finally the sure thing.

But, this strategy is OK for me as I am in AC regularly.

It's also worth noting that as well as girls that will be on the dating sites for years there are many that find their beau and are off to greener pastures.

BD.

[CallSign Papa]

Interested to try this as a way of boosting my recovery time (which is 90 minutes like clockwork). Is this something the generic pharmacies stock?

[BrainDrain]

Interested to try this as a way of boosting my recovery time (which is 90 minutes like clockwork). Is this something the generic pharmacies stock?My GP suggested I do some market research for him and for me to check this product when I was in Philippines. For me, 50 yo male it made no difference. Still same active ingredient.

I bought mine from a local generic pharmacy in AC. Hopefully it was legitimate.

BD.

[CallSign Papa]

Arrived into Makati at 9. 30 pm, the usual hand luggage only and a small queue at arrivals meant I was in my rented condo in Rockwell by 10.10 pm. Waiting downstairs in the lobby were Maria and Kim, they promptly came up and we participated in a pretty dynamic three way (see photo gallery for gratuitous boob shot). I had one condition which the girls were happy to acquiesce to, I wouldn't be changing rubber when I switched girls. That meant the mood wasn't spoiled and a good time was had by all. Maria, the really dirty one was bigger than her FB photos suggested but I'm nothing if not an equal opportunities monger. They left at midnight 3. 5 k richer each and I showered, changed and headed out.

Started at H&J but it seemed somewhat subdued there, even late on a Thursday. Skipped merrily across to Royal where the Throwback Thursdays/Frisky Friday team were in full swing (they manage promotions for H&J, Royal and Hideout (in BGC),they're about 6 girls who are pretty damn fit but between them have seen more japseyes than an oriental optician). Still the place was jumping, and whilst relatively small, Royal is target rich. Plenty of small groups of girls, and I'm sure a fair share are hunting too. Ended up speaking to Joyce, a 20-something spinner in a killer white dress and matching heels. After a few drinks I suggested we head out and either get some food or head back to mine. In the taxi she was keen to get back to my condo and as we still hadn't discussed money I was half hoping I'd snagged a freebie.

Given it was 3am already we jumped straight into the bumping of uglies and a fabulous time was had by all. We both woke up a bit sore-headed the next morning and had a lazy but fulfilling mid-morning roll. I was on my way down south to get her off when she asked that I concentrate on her boobs which I was happy to do. Sure enough about 5 minutes in she was bucking and moaning and had somehow brought herself to a happy conclusion with only minimal assistance from me. As I had a lunch date with my beauty queen (see last report), I was keen to have her gone by 11 so I could prepare and recover.

I still wasn't sure if this was a business transaction (certainly didn't feel it), and offered "taxi money", put 3 k into her bag and she texted happily from her Grab to say thanks. Felt like I got a bargain there.

Off to lunch at Greenbelt and a long lazy lunch with wine with my new favourite girl was then followed by an afternoon of laziness at my condo punctuated by nakedness and an exchange of vital fluids. BQ is definitely starting to open up in bed, and has graduated to asking for some hair pulling, but wasn't quite so thrilled with a finger in the keister, baby steps. We then went to dinner and back to mine for more of the same. As she couldn't stay the night (mamma is strict), it opened up an early morning slot that Lily was able to fill. Lily is 21 and works for an online casino in Ayala Triangle. We've met once before and had a lovely (freebie) time together. She was working the night shift and finished at 7 am, with the knock on my door following about 30 minutes later. As I was so wiped and drained we actually fell straight to sleep but woke up a few hours later and got down to business. She's so damn petite, but the reason I HAD to see her again is because she has the tightest pussy I've ever experienced. Each time feels like the first time for her, and I really dig the look of pleasure on her face mixed with pain (the good kind, she says), especially when she's on top, which is her favourite position.

I invited her to early lunch but she was keen to get home and sleep some more, but not before kindly bashing through the washing up (pic attached, that's her glorious boob too). My chance to pop over to a Generic pharmacy and source some supplies because damn, I'm not getting any younger and my I need all the help I can get before my afternoon gal arrives.

Good problems to have.

[ThomKatt]

Hey fellas,

Long and overdue post. Just posted my adventures during Easter in AC, and finishing the rest here. I arrived in the afternoon from AC and checked into my hotel, unfortunately I booked at the Makati Palace hotel for my entire stay in Manila. I had dinner at Café Cubana. It wasn't bad at all, but I think my stomach was still acting up from either the food in the PH or just that I've been drinking too much. Anyways, I ended up heading to Malate to check out the scene over there. I'm definitely disappointed because all of the bars and whatnot when I went there a year ago, has all turned into KTVs / Karaoke places. This is upsetting, the area has pretty much turned Japanese / Korean and now caters exclusively to them. Oh well, Makati it is then. I promised the door guys at Rogues that I'the stop by for a drink, plus I think it's worth checking out because they have the lowest barfine. I walk in and am immediately mauled by many of the girls there. I'm nice to some of them, but give the cold shoulder to the non-attractive ones. Eventually just two stay and chit chat with me. One of the girls was a beauty, great personality, nice body, beautiful teeth and smile. I think her name is Sarena or Serena. The other one was as pretty, but not as high on my hotness scale, and her name is Cherie or Cherry. The bar is cool, it's more of a sports bar with a few girls dancing on the tiny stage at the other end of the room. The barfines are very low, but the girls expected rate makes up for it, so in the end, it all ends up around the same, without negotiating. I would come back for them if I don't find something better.

I head into Hollywood really quick to have a look. It was dead inside with 1 or 2 girls on the dance floor and I walked right out.

I head into bottoms. I sat in the front row seats to get a good look at the women, unfortunately the stage lights were blasting me in the eye, so I moved to the back booth seats. The girls here were ok, the good thing is that you get to see their tits, because their "tops" are really just straps that don't do a very good job of hiding anything. One of the hottest Filipina women I've ever seen both in face and body was working here. I tried to get her to come over, but she was getting drinks bought for her left and right. While waiting, one of the old ladies gave me a painful massage, I appreciate the service, but I prefer it from a trained professional! Anyways, she finally comes over and chats with me. She's 23, Mormon, no kid, and is named Cheryl lynn, or Cherie lynn. I would have barfined her, but the barfines here are probably the highest, and her long time rate was pretty ridiculous too. As much as I wanted her, there's no way I would pay that much, when I know the service wouldn't be worth it. I can just masturbate to hot women for free (I know it's not the same, but the value is there hahaha). I pay and head out.

Head to Plan be. The place had lots more women this time around, and less customers. But the quality of women were a lot lower today than on a religious holiday. I hand out with a girl and place connect 4 with one. You gotta be careful with these chicks, no matter how smart you are, they are hustlers at these games. I hang out for a bit and then head out.

I then head to tickles. The women here were ok. The mamasan is really into making the place as lively as possible, even joining in the choreographed dancing. Unfortunately, there was a big white tourist there, probably from Europe (he was wearing a fanny pack), that the ladies were all over. They even made him take off his shirt and pull his junk out hahah I knew I wasn't going to get any attention in here. I pay for my drink and leave.

I decided to head to Kojaxx, but they were closed, and for some reason, the same bar downstairs is open called XOXO. It's the exact same people working, why do they have 2 bars? Oh well. I actually like XOXO better than Kojaxx because of the seating arrangement, lighting, and the girls are actually doing some sexy choreographed dancing. The mamasan remembers me from a few days ago and gives me the VIP treatment. There are a ton of beautiful women in the place tonight, and I can't even begin to choose who I Want for the night. One girl, her name is Rio, was more thicker than I'm used to, but something about her look and attitude made me want her badly. I have her come to chat for a bit, but I can't remember why I didn't barfine her this night. Anyways, another girl, a pretty hot girl who's a tiny little thing caught my eye. Her name is Beverly, but some other person ended up buying her a drink, and she came to chat with me when she finished her drink, and tells me that the guys aren't sure if they want to barfine her or not. Being respectful, I gave him first choice. They ended up leaving so I was in luck. I had her come over and chat with me, and while negotiating, mamasan said she would give me a big discount if I took a second girl. Another girl on stage caught my eye, she was very cute, and was stacked, wearing the tiniest jean short shorts and a plunging Vneck tshirt, her name is Anna Lou. I ended up barfining both.

We head to filling station for more drinks and some food. We played a couple of games of pool and had a pretty good and fun time. But Beverly hurt her shoulder and we decided to head back to the hotel.

At the hotel, I decided to let Beverly rest, while I get it on with Ana Lou. Beverly kept saying the most adorable things to me like "Baby! Come give me a kiss." or "Baby, come hold me", her English was bad, I couldn't understand half of what she was saying most of the time, but she kept wanting me to go cuddle with her and kiss her on the lips or face, interrupting me from getting it on with Ana Lou. I thought it was freaking cute as hell.

Anyways, Ana Lou and I go and take a shower together. She looks at my cock and tells me she likes it, that it's the perfect size. She says I have a white person's dick (I'm Asian), and that black guys are too big, and Asians are too small. I'm not sure if this is the compliment I'm looking for, but I'll take it!

We get onto the bed and start to DFK. I think fingerbang wet, and DATY, and she soaks the sheets. She then gives me a BBBJ, and Beverly asks if I want one from her too, of course! So she joins in, and bbbjs me, and then she slips on the cover. I get into mish and pound Ana Lou silly, and then flip her over, and put some pillows under her stomach for a good arch. I then doggy her, while she's moaning with pleasure. In pure Filipina fashion and accent, she moans "Yas babay" when I ask her if she loves it. I'm giving her all I've got, slamming with each thrust until I blast every single drop inside of her. She was really fun and sexy, the essential Girl Next Door. She's adorable and cute, and innocent, yet has a feisty side to her.

We both get cleaned up individually afterwards. She puts on her entire outfit on, says she's more comfortable sleeping in it. I thought this was absolutely funny. She's so quirky and shy.

I ended up big spooning Beverly on the edge of the bed, with Beverly in the middle. I wake up the next morning and FOV Beverly awake from the big spoon position. She then gives me a CBJ while I FOV her, and hops Asian cowgirl and rides me. She's licking and kissing my nipples while doing this, what amazing flexibility and reach for such a tiny little girl. I flip her over and get into the mish and drill her. She's taking me pretty well, full and deep and then I explode inside of her. I take a look at her pussy and see how creamy it got, she has a beautiful and tight hole. Her breasts are pretty big for a small girl, but they're accompanied with large saucer nipples. She must have been 5'0 MAX. She seemed pretty obsessed with me.

I had a pretty good time with these two girls. They didn't really know each other well, but their chemistry and personalities mixed well. My original idea was to barfine two girls so I can have one at night and one in morning, with no intention that it was ever going to be a 3 some, I've yet to experience a "true" threesome (the type you see in pornos). I know this isn't the best value, but sometimes you just want to let go and have fun, which I most certainly did!

Got one more report coming. Happy mongering fellas!

[ThomKatt]

After a heavy night of drinking and partying at XOXO, I checked out of my hotel and told myself that I probably don't need to satisfy my lust any further, as both my stomach, liver, penis, and wallet are pretty damaged at this point. I headed to cheers to relax and have a bite to eat. I'm not a big fan of the place, the food they cooked were piping hot and it melted the roof of my mouth when I took a bite of the fried chicken, then the fries. I ended up going sight seeing for the most of the day, I wanted to see if there were anything else worth seeing in Manila. I'll probably never come back unless the conditions have to be perfect (price, time, availability, etc). I came back to Burgos and had dinner at Tequileria and it was pretty good. I had a big burrito, and it was pretty tasty. I guess when it comes to western food, the PH gets it right. Local food isn't great, nor is it done great for some reason, just my opinion though.

I head into Gstrings for a little bit. There's one pretty good looking girl here but she was occupied by some frat boys. The rest of the girls were meh. One of the mamasan's tried to bring me one of their new girls, and you could tell she's pretty damn new. This woman probably gave birth yesterday, yet she was wearing a crop top and jean short shorts, and I saw all of the stretch marks and post birth damage on her body. I shooed them away, and after one drink, was pretty disgusted and left. The place is pretty big, with lots of seating, and some girls dancing on stage on the other side of the room.

Well, it was getting pretty late, and my flight doesn't take off until the middle of the night, so I didn't have anything else to do.

Back to XOXO it is. And I couldn't believe the line up here. Some of the most beautiful Filipinas were working tonight, and I'm a bit upset that they weren't here before. I had my eye on 2-3 of them. Risa was back again, looking at me and upset that I haven't talked to her since the first day I came, she seemed to be jealous that I'm giving everyone attention but her, I bet she regrets not barfining with me haha.

I chat with Rio again, and her personality is on par with what I'm looking for in a good time. She isn't exactly the best looker, but she looks like she has a stacked body, and a wild side to her. She's pretty thick in the legs and hips, but I'm ok with that. Beautiful is beautiful, and when I go after the models, I end up being thoroughly disappointed. Once again the girls are dancing very sexily on stage with their choreography. The choreographer is a ladyboy who sometimes leads the girls to dance. The ones who don't dance at all, you can tell, probably aren't really fun once you get back to the hotel.

There are a lot of knock outs tonight, there's two who I thought could be twins, but it turns out they're cousins. The mamasan told me one of them was wild. She also told me Rio was very wild. The third girl was very gorgeous, with a decent body, but I wanted to try something new.

So I chat with a lot of the girls again tonight. One of the girls from the first night that I tried to barfine, who didn't have her ID, came to chat with me, and I considered barfining her, but mamasan told me she was on her mens. I then see Beverly and Ana Lou and have them come over to hang out for a bit. Beverly is so tiny, she could fit her into my pocket. I asked her why she doesn't French kiss me, and she was shy about it. She took the menu and covered our faces, but ended up just giving me a smooch on the lips again. She promised me later she would. Ana lou changed her look a bit, and for a second I didn't recognize her or know that it was her on stage. I think she looked even more beautiful tonight than the previous night, I made the right choice with her. She's a fun girl.

Beverly gets called for a line up, and gets chosen. The rest of the entire night she peeks over to me, giving me stolen glances and checking up on me. I also spot Regine, the girl from the first night and have her come over to chat. Apparently she was working the night before and noticed me and that I took 2 girls home, but I swear I would have noticed her. She might have been hiding in the corner somewhere and not on stage.

The night is getting late, and I have to make a decision before midnight. With how good of a chemistry I have with Rio and the mamasan telling me (because I'm a good and valued customer at this point, so I trust her opinion and she wants to make me happy) that Rio is the wildest and can "handle" me, I make the decision to barfine her. I don't have a hotel since I've checked out, so she takes me to a short time hotel a few blocks up the street, a Korean place. It's my last night in Manila, and my last time in the PH for a very long time, might as well send myself off with a BANG, literally! Haha I think the rate is like 570 php for 3 hours or something like that. But the place isn't that great, the showers don't have warm / hot water. You get a bed, towels, a fan / Air con, and a TV (which was hard to find the remote to turn off).

Rio showers first, then I shower. She actually has an amazing looking body, she has large see or the breasts, and firm and wide hips and butt, with minor stretch marks on the hips. We then get to business. We DFK, and she gives me a BBBJ. She tongues my balls and legs, and makes good eye contact, and asks if I like it. She has this funny and sexy accent, the way she speaks English. I then DATY and fingerbang her. The cover goes on, and I get into mish. I bang her silly, and then flip her over with some pillows under her stomach to help her arch her back and give me easy pounding access. Her beautiful bottom was getting stretched by me while I gave her the business. After some powerful thrusts, I tell her that I'm about to come, but she says: "No! I'm not ready!" but I couldn't and wouldn't hold it in and unleash everything I had into her. She's still yelling: "No! No! I'm not done yet! She seemed disappointed, but at the same time she was enjoying it. Wow! She says she wants to cum, so she starts playing with herself, and asks me to lick her nipples and play with her tits. I offer to eat her out and to eat her asshole too, but she declines and says just work her tits, which I willfully oblige. We get into a heated foreplay session and she cums.

We then snuggle for a quick nap. But I got cold and the TV was getting loud and annoying, so I woke up to turn them both off. Go back to nap. But the front desk calls to tell us we have an hour left, this was annoying as fuck. They do it again at the 30 minute mark interrupting my session, and then at the 5 minute mark.

I wake up and fingerbang her from the big spoon position. She's nice and wet so I throw the cover on and fuck her from the same big spoon position. Unfortunately, I know I will never nut with the time left and so soon after I just came, so after a little bit of pounding, I take the condom off, and have her lay on my side, while having her play with my balls, and I'm stroking myself to her beautiful face and body. The phone rings, and I have to get up and answer it, and told them to fuck off. After awhile, I'm ready to blast, and ask her if I can cum on her face, she says no. So I cum on her body, but the first shot went into my nose and started to slide down my mouth! Haha I'm freaking out! I wasn't able to fully enjoy cumming. I'm so mad at Rio for not letting me cum on her face and making me cum on my own that I call her a fucking ***** the entire time while laughing. We're both laughing pretty hard about the whole situation, and I'm still calling her a fucking ***** while showering, and she's hearing me clean my nostrils nose, and mouth out ahhaha tasting my own medicine I guess.

We clean up and leave the place, she walks me back to the Makati palace to big up my luggage, but part ways at the corner. Man, she was wild, and I still think about her and her sexiness sometimes. Good spank bank material.

Anyways, manila is a pretty good place to monger, although I think ease and value are really in Angeles. I wanted to have a proper send off for both of these locations because I didn't have that great of a time my first time, and I wanted to make up for it this time around, and also, it would probably be a very long time or even never that I come back, as I want to explore other areas of the world. If the time and conditions are right, I might come back. But I personally prefer Thailand much better in almost every category except value.

Happy mongering fellas! I'm off to explore Europe.

[Muttley81]

Hi all.

Newly arrived in Makati and really struggling to find what I'm looking for (which is hopefully easy). As can be checked from my previous post history, I'm not a manager, I even go out and explore for new places.

I am looking for an in call massage place in the Makati area that offers a decent massage with a BJ happy ending or a Nurumassage place that is in call. I've read and searched through the forum but only found references to people receiving PMs with the places. Spa is too short a word to search for. Been to a couple of spas locally where the massage was great but no extras offered, not even an accidental stroke given to the delicate areas.

Also chatted to quite a few places on WeChat but all of them have been home service only which I can't do presently.

Would really appreciate any pointers.

[Shark5]

Hi all.

Newly arrived in Makati and really struggling to find what I'm looking for (which is hopefully easy). As can be checked from my previous post history, I'm not a manager, I even go out and explore for new places.

I am looking for an in call massage place in the Makati area that offers a decent massage with a BJ happy ending or a Nurumassage place that is in call. I've read and searched through the forum but only found references to people receiving PMs with the places. Spa is too short a word to search for. Been to a couple of spas locally where the massage was great but no extras offered, not even an accidental stroke given to the delicate areas.

Also chatted to quite a few places on WeChat but all of them have been home service only which I can't do presently.

Would really appreciate any pointers.I think you can get what you want from one of the massage girls on P. Burgos St. Last time I was there I was looking for a massage and asked one of the girls wearing the scrubs, passing out business cards. I was taken to a clean massage room above the old internet cafe next to Royal Bellagio and was given a great oil massage. At the end I was asked if I would like "extra" service. I declined, but I am sure a number of options were on the menu. Pretty girls, clean venue and cheap price. Good luck!

[Wicked Roger]

Just visiting today 30th as need to visit and back to the Visayas tomorrow. She is very naughty and kinky likes backdoor action and is fun to be with, not the best looker but then as many have said those girls are better in the sack. PM if you like to meet her as she is great company and am doing my bit for charity also.

Few pictures here some posted before as she used the lube bottle bottle in various ways last time I saw her LOL.

[The Tall Man]

Just visiting today 30th as need to visit and back to the Visayas tomorrow. She is very naughty and kinky likes backdoor action and is fun to be with, not the best looker but then as many have said those girls are better in the sack. PM if you like to meet her as she is great company and am doing my bit for charity also.

Few pictures here some posted before as she used the lube bottle bottle in various ways last time I saw her LOL.Love the photos Wicked Roger, can you help me out, I have read back about 40 pages and have some specific questions:

1. My FIRST time to visit and monger in the PI. Will be there in mid June (work and play). I will stay in a hotel in or close to Burgos street. First are the bar girls always covered BJ and FS? Do you pay extra? Is BBBJ and BBFS common? I see many photos posted showing otherwise.

2. Just for the hell of it I am thinking of heading over to Angels City (or for that matter to Cebu) to monger for a few days. Is it worth the travel or should I just stay put in Makati? I was thinking of 2 or 3 days and checking it out, perimeter road and walking street. Thoughts and suggestions please?

3. I hear that it's somewhat common to wifey up with a LT sleep over girl. How to prevent this? How do you guys get them to leave the next morning?

4. At the risk of sounding stuck-up and conceded in the past when I have been with thin Asian girls they are very small and my big throbbing di*k's generous circumference is difficult at time to penetrate and pound deep, any thoughts as to what you all have experienced?

5. Any issues with bringing girls back to a hotel that is located in or on the Burgos street action? Any specific recommendations for a hotel to stay?

6. Any other suggestions is much appreciated.

7. I am also on Filipino Cupid and Face Book connecting with some girls. Any experiences with this?

8. Which specific bars and clubs should I be checking out?

Thanks in advance all!

The Tall Man.

[IgoforAsian]

Hey Tall Man,

I will try to answer some of your questions.

1. Bar girls will usually have condoms. I like to bring my favourite brand from home as I find the asian condoms too small and not as good. Although you will see plenty of bare-back photos here, I think covered full-service is more usual with a bar girl you just met, and probably a good idea for your mutual protection. BBBJ is usually no problem if you like. If you have special requirement like BBFS, photos, etc, better to clarify this before paying barfine.

2. If you have more than 5 days, a quick trip to Angeles might be worth it. IMHO, the scene in Manila is as good or better, but (very generally speaking) a bit more pricey. The scene in Angeles is different and worth checking out for a few days if you have the time.

3. To avoid the overnight girl wanting to stay too long, make sure to let her know in advance you have a business meeting the next day at a certain time. You can walk her out of your hotel and stick her in a taxi as you go to your "business meeting".

4. Let the girl know in the bar that you have a large dick and make sure she is ok with that before you pay the barfine. Sometimes it is better to choose a girl who has already popped out a baby for this reason.

5. Pretty much all hotels near Burgos should be girl-friendly. Make sure she has ID before you leave the bar. The more reputable hotels will check her ID for your protection.

6 & 7. As an alternative to the bars, the internet game can be fun too. Especially if you want afternoon hook-ups. I have used Tagged / Hi5 to good effect. I am sure Filipino Cupid and Facebook are good too. The internet hook-ups take a bit more work to set up, and you never know what you are going to get for sure until you see them, but you can get more "girl next door" types with lower mileage and 2000 p should suffice, which is cheaper than the bar fines on Burgos. Do your best to make sure she is legit and make her come to you. Most of my long term repeat girls I first met on internet. But generally speaking, the internet girls are bit more of a crap-shoot. Some real gems to be had, but also some real flakes. Do your best to weed out the flakes before bringing them over to your place. One good tip is to use "Grab" (like Uber) to bring the girls to you. You can monitor her progress on where she is on the app. When she turns up, have little chat with her over coffee or something, and if she turns out to be a flake, give her a few hundred pesos plus cab fare for her trouble and send her on her way as quickly as possible.

8. I like "Bottoms" the best, but you will have time to check them all out. The Burgos strip is fairly compact.

[Sxxxx]

Hey Tall Man, ...................................Bar girls will usually have condoms. ......... you will see plenty of bare-back photos here, I think covered full-service is more usual with a bar girl you just met ..........That is not correct. Bareback is the norm, hence risk of STD's. What you said applies to Thailand, not to the Philippines.

[Wicked Roger]

Love the photos Wicked Roger, can you help me out,
Thanks in advance all!

The Tall Man.Here is my take and mostly the same as IgoforAsian but with some differences based on taste, experience and other factors.

1 Condoms and the use / non-use are debated a lot here. Many pinays I see don't like as prefer bareback but with FLs and bar girls take precautions – is up to you clearly but some westerners end up getting the girls pregnant and some stand by the girl and support, others run for the hills, others deny and be a cheap charlie and some get DNA tests etc. You don't want to be in in those space.

2. For me AC is a no no as for me there is no soul and the girls not as good as elsewhere. But YMMV and I know others who love the place but for me I don't go there unless I am planning some form of naughty party etc as then is an ideal place. Am not the best person for that advice LOL.

3. Just be clear on your intentions. Many like to stay over as a nice bed, free breakfast etc, so who would blame them but get the menu clear and then wake up early get out (as if you go to a meeting) so she must go.

4. They all (or most) will complain – for me is standard practice but some really like so when you are with them chat and joke about size and let them feel you in bar so no complaints later as that can be so frustrating and a waste of day.

5. Never known a hotel that's was not girl friendly. Some do take ID and call you when she goes, some don't. Depends how well you know the girl etc.

6 & 7 I used to use DIA and all sort of web site and there are many varying results plus loads of LBs also so be careful. IF not time then that is best way of the bars. If time then cultivate via FB the uni girls and then they will have friends if you are nice and polite, respectful and not a cheap charlie or an a**hole to them, they will be fine with you. We all have different ways but if time is against you find a bar girl you like see if she friends. Take her number and see her before she works / after hours as she gets the full cash not split with the bar etc – this works and I have done this a few times in my early years.

8. Each person has a different view. I am never keen on Bottoms, I like High Heels but then I know the mamas as well. Also, Kojax and Plan be are favourite with some and I know girls from Rogues who are nice also. Best to visit, get a feel and see where you are most comfortable is my advice.

Happy hunting.

[The Tall Man]

My sincere thanks to the both of you, great sound advice that is truly appreciated.

The Tall Man.


Hey Tall Man,

I will try to answer some of your questions.

1. Bar girls will usually have condoms. I like to bring my favourite brand from home as I find the asian condoms too small and not as good. Although you will see plenty of bare-back photos here, I think covered full-service is more usual with a bar girl you just met, and probably a good idea for your mutual protection. BBBJ is usually no problem if you like. If you have special requirement like BBFS, photos, etc, better to clarify this before paying barfine.

2. If you have more than 5 days, a quick trip to Angeles might be worth it. IMHO, the scene in Manila is as good or better, but (very generally speaking) a bit more pricey. The scene in Angeles is different and worth checking out for a few days if you have the time.

3. To avoid the overnight girl wanting to stay too long, make sure to let her know in advance you have a business meeting the next day at a certain time. You can walk her out of your hotel and stick her in a taxi as you go to your "business meeting".

4. Let the girl know in the bar that you have a large dick and make sure she is ok with that before you pay the barfine. Sometimes it is better to choose a girl who has already popped out a baby for this reason.

5. Pretty much all hotels near Burgos should be girl-friendly. Make sure she has ID before you leave the bar. The more reputable hotels will check her ID for your protection.

6 & 7. As an alternative to the bars, the internet game can be fun too. Especially if you want afternoon hook-ups. I have used Tagged / Hi5 to good effect. I am sure Filipino Cupid and Facebook are good too. The internet hook-ups take a bit more work to set up, and you never know what you are going to get for sure until you see them, but you can get more "girl next door" types with lower mileage and 2000 p should suffice, which is cheaper than the bar fines on Burgos. Do your best to make sure she is legit and make her come to you. Most of my long term repeat girls I first met on internet. But generally speaking, the internet girls are bit more of a crap-shoot. Some real gems to be had, but also some real flakes. Do your best to weed out the flakes before bringing them over to your place. One good tip is to use "Grab" (like Uber) to bring the girls to you. You can monitor her progress on where she is on the app. When she turns up, have little chat with her over coffee or something, and if she turns out to be a flake, give her a few hundred pesos plus cab fare for her trouble and send her on her way as quickly as possible.

8. I like "Bottoms" the best, but you will have time to check them all out. The Burgos strip is fairly compact.


Here is my take and mostly the same as IgoforAsian but with some differences based on taste, experience and other factors.

1 Condoms and the use / non-use are debated a lot here. Many pinays I see don't like as prefer bareback but with FLs and bar girls take precautions is up to you clearly but some westerners end up getting the girls pregnant and some stand by the girl and support, others run for the hills, others deny and be a cheap charlie and some get DNA tests etc. You don't want to be in in those space.

2. For me AC is a no no as for me there is no soul and the girls not as good as elsewhere. But YMMV and I know others who love the place but for me I don't go there unless I am planning some form of naughty party etc as then is an ideal place. Am not the best person for that advice LOL.

3. Just be clear on your intentions. Many like to stay over as a nice bed, free breakfast etc, so who would blame them but get the menu clear and then wake up early get out (as if you go to a meeting) so she must go.

4. They all (or most) will complain for me is standard practice but some really like so when you are with them chat and joke about size and let them feel you in bar so no complaints later as that can be so frustrating and a waste of day.

5. Never known a hotel that's was not girl friendly. Some do take ID and call you when she goes, some don't. Depends how well you know the girl etc.

6 & 7 I used to use DIA and all sort of web site and there are many varying results plus loads of LBs also so be careful. IF not time then that is best way of the bars. If time then cultivate via FB the uni girls and then they will have friends if you are nice and polite, respectful and not a cheap charlie or an a**hole to them, they will be fine with you. We all have different ways but if time is against you find a bar girl you like see if she friends. Take her number and see her before she works / after hours as she gets the full cash not split with the bar etc this works and I have done this a few times in my early years.

8. Each person has a different view. I am never keen on Bottoms, I like High Heels but then I know the mamas as well. Also, Kojax and Plan be are favourite with some and I know girls from Rogues who are nice also. Best to visit, get a feel and see where you are most comfortable is my advice.

Happy hunting.

[CallSign Papa]

Firstly apologies, this is a bit of a waffle.

I can say proudly that I've made virtually every mistake it's possible to make in Manila. Some of those mistakes I made despite having read of other people making the same mistakes on this very forum. Never underestimate a stupid person's ability to think "it won't happen to me" immediately before it does. But I digress.

One of the things I do know well is that if you're going to plan a tight weekend of juicy pinay hole spelunking, don't schedule them too close together because one or all of them is going to run late and that will throw your whole plan out of the window. So I decided to experiment with a new system, where i would split 3 sessions into 4 hour windows on Friday / Saturday starting at 2 pm (giving me time to kick out my morning delight). 4 hours would factor in "late" time and enough time to get down to some serious bumping of uglies you would think.

Filipinas have other ideas.

Session 1, Friday, 2 hours in and Bella is a no show. I'm especially disappointed because Bella is the cream of the crop. 24, gorgeous large hazel eyes, slim figure but with generous apple sized boobs. But she had disappeared from Viber. When she finally replied she admitted that she was still at home and was too shy to come in case I was disappointed. FFS. What I should have done was push her to the back of the queue on general principle, but she was the itch I wanted to scratch and so after 10 minutes of assuring her by phone that everything would be copacetic when she arrived, she finally got in a fucking taxi. In short, the first girl arrived 3 hours into her 4 hour allotment. And of course, the second girl had already left from Cavite and was due to arrive a little early.

The obvious answer would have been to use my silver tongued charm to combine the two girls into one session, but I was frankly in a panic and in a rush to get into Bella's delightful little pants. It was therefore quite a shock when despite her hot and heavy texting, she started playing all coy once we were reclining on the sofa. Thankfully it was all a bit of a misunderstanding, she actually was being shy because she wanted to ask me to do something and she was embarrassed about it. It took 15 minutes (and a whisky and coke) before she finally admitted that she wanted us to start our naughtiness with me eating out her ass. Boy, that got her from a cold start to running redline in no time. It was only 30 minutes later when I saw the 8 missed calls on my phone that I remembered that I'd forgotten to worry about my second guest. She was waiting at the coffee shop next to my building but had thankfully only been there 5 minutes.

I called Bella a Grabtaxi and we planned our next meeting next week where she promised not to be late (as if). It was thus time for Maria to come up, (giving me literally seconds for the clean up / loose hair check) and this tiny 20 year old student whilst nowhere near as hot as her photos more than made up for it with a very cheeky personality. I was able to take the second session a lot slower (needing an hour or so for recovery time) and knowing I had a few hours to kill definitely made it more enjoyable.

Session 3 was a no show despite harassing me with texts the previous day to confirm date / time / place / colour of sofa etc. Simply didn't respond to any viber messages all day and meekly apologised the next day. I had a backup option planned for each session, but was simply too tired and decided to have a nap when Maria left around 10 pm. Awoke around midnight and headed to H&J for a quick beer before I decided to try the talent at Royal.

Left near to 2 am with a gorgeous little cutie in a black dress called Mel who had literally the softest silkiest skin I have ever felt, couldn't keep my hands off her until she left the next morning. 3 k well spent, we didn't discuss money at all until the minute before she left and I asked if I could reward her for her talent.

You don't want to know how my Saturday schedule went. This experiment had failed utterly.

(Session 1 on Saturday was nearly a no show and it took an hour of talking her off the ledge of cancelling, because her LDR boyfriend wanted to skype call at the same time we were supposed to meet and she freaked).

[Wicked Roger]

(Session 1 on Saturday was nearly a no show and it took an hour of talking her off the ledge of cancelling, because her LDR boyfriend wanted to skype call at the same time we were supposed to meet and she freaked).Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.

[Shark5]

Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.Great report. I just had to chime in on the skype thing. When I was working over seas I knew a lot of guys who insisted that their pinay GF's stay on Skype the whole time they slept, so when he woke up through out the night he would be able to see that she was at home. I used to get a kick out of this and would give them a hard time. I would tell them they had trust issues!! LOL.

[Member #4558]

Interesting and somewhat amusing FR CSP (the last bit about Saturday).

I have known a few guys who are so controlling they insist on Skype call to the cutie and show the room where the girl is. Calls always seem be scheduled around the time they should be in bed with us (anywhere between say 9 pm-3 am) and never a set time just in that window. But then they will suddenly change it.

That person can ruin the fun but also as you say the girl freaks which is what the LDR wants and thus gains 'control' and the cuties just won't take a chance at any time in case he calls demanding a Skype. There is a word for that sort of person but like a code violation LOL.

Good luck next time with Bella and thanks for sharing the mistakes as very few of us ever do.One gal I met know her ways around her controlling BFs. She has started to meet me in her apt (BF pays of course). Last time I was there he called and they quickly switched to skype while I just sat in the sofa. She skyped whit him in the apts office. Some sort of preplanned event as me and her had already agreed what to do if her BF demanded a walk around I would stay out of sight. He calls every now and then without any system to it and partly demand she is home or if she is not its a video call so he can see where she is / who she's with.

Well this time he didn't demand a walk around into the Livingroom and we had fucked on the dining table so the bed-covers were in order. My shoes should have been visible in the hallway but I didn't hear anything so he obviously didn't notice them. I didn't think about it until I was about to leave.

[Cheema]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.

[Wicked Roger]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.There is plenty of time to RTFF and you can find as you have asked the same question in 2016 in Malaysia.

Lots of chatter here on model types, where to find, the pitfalls.

As for hotels did you not see the specific hotel thread as a quick read can answer that.

I am way busier that you as some people who know can agree and I still have to RTFF for say 5 minutes, read the FRs of use, form a conclusion and then ask a specific question.

People are way too nervous to hand out contact numbers and many have been burnt before myself included so unless I have met you is hard to give (as it is for many).

But try 10 minutes of your valuable time to RTFF and you can find all you need about questions 1 and 2 - trust me it works.

Look forward to your contribution.

[Cheema]

There is plenty of time to RTFF and you can find as you have asked the same question in 2016 in Malaysia.

Lots of chatter here on model types, where to find, the pitfalls.

As for hotels did you not see the specific hotel thread as a quick read can answer that.

I am way busier that you as some people who know can agree and I still have to RTFF for say 5 minutes, read the FRs of use, form a conclusion and then ask a specific question.

People are way too nervous to hand out contact numbers and many have been burnt before myself included so unless I have met you is hard to give (as it is for many).

But try 10 minutes of your valuable time to RTFF and you can find all you need about questions 1 and 2 - trust me it works.

Look forward to your contribution.Thanks for reply.

I did RTTF but most of info is bit old such as in posts of 2015 Havana club is recommended but in 2017 its called as dead. As I have experienced in other destinations that scene has changed drastically in last few years as these days model types don't hang up in bars or clubs and you need some contacts to find them and escort agencies are not reliable. Regarding Malaysia I requested but no one replied and I according to RTTF I went to beach club, Thai club and spa they mentioned but could not find anything special. As I am a tourist who occasionally monger I look for quality rather than quantity that's why I request for info because I usually visit a place for 3-4 days and don't want to waste once in a life time opportunity to sample the best that place has to offer. I don't visit a country again because want to visit the whole world. That's why I look desperate on my posts. I am sorry for these desperate looking posts. I try my best to contribute on this forum and have written many posts and also helped many on PM.

[Wicked Roger]

Thanks for reply.

I did RTTF but most of info is bit old such as in posts of 2015 Havana club is recommended but in 2017 its called as dead. As I have experienced in other destinations that scene has changed drastically in last few years as these days model types don't hang up in bars or clubs and you need some contacts to find them and escort agencies are not reliable. Regarding Malaysia I requested but no one replied and I according to RTTF I went to beach club, Thai club and spa they mentioned but could not find anything special. As I am a tourist who occasionally monger I look for quality rather than quantity that's why I request for info because I usually visit a place for 3-4 days and don't want to waste once in a life time opportunity to sample the best that place has to offer. I don't visit a country again because want to visit the whole world. That's why I look desperate on my posts. I am sorry for these desperate looking posts. I try my best to contribute on this forum and have written many posts and also helped many on PM.I am visiting 9 countries in 9 weeks and I take my time to RTFF and plan my visit, I PM people also. Maybe the Malaysian thread did not respond as you have a a history of questions? And you need some credibility before people pass up stuff.

But in response to you specific comment, if you RTFF there is a list of high end clubs (it is there I just checked) and a Google you will also find the same list (or roughly the same). Havana Cafe is mentioned after 2015, there has been comments from one senior about a high end lady he took (I know the price and service he received as I asked him via PM) - so it is there and the excuse that nothing is recent cannot fly.

Also plan and spend a few hours and you find anything you want even if you don't RTFF on this forum as many searches in Google help you (and have me recently understand the mongering layout and supplement my RTFF here).

As price seems no issue there are plenty girls be happy in the Philippines to help you spend it. Pinays are great at that trust me.

Have fun and once you have RTFF please contribute your findings with a FR and / or PM some of us. I did this when I first visited the country many years ago (and do so for other places new to me) - it proved invaluable rather than blindly asking a "please help me I have no time" question.

Happy hunting Cheema.

[Member #4566]

I will be visiting Makati for 4 days and will be staying at holiday inn from 24 -28 June.

I have some questions.

1. Is holiday inn girl friendly? Otherwise I can change hotel.

2 . I am looking for high end model type girls but don't have much time to find on my own can anyone recommend a bar / club, agency or any contact.

3 . I have written detailed reports for about 30 destinations at this forum and I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girls.

Anyone willing to share some info can PM me.Some of the members of the RTFF squad have thousands of posts. They have too much time on their hands. Best to ignore them.

[FreebieFan]

Some of the members of the RTFF squad have thousands of posts. They have too much time on their hands. Best to ignore them.And some of them, with their thousands of posts have responded with help many times, only to find that the help provided is disputed, ignored, questioned or outright denied by a newbie seeking help. So, why help?

All the info that's needed, or that's useful is probably in the forum. After all, we all beat to a somewhat similar drum in our mongering quest.

And some of the people with thousands of posts actually do have full time jobs. Suprising huh.

[Cheema]

And some of them, with their thousands of posts have responded with help many times, only to find that the help provided is disputed, ignored, questioned or outright denied by a newbie seeking help. So, why help?

All the info that's needed, or that's useful is probably in the forum. After all, we all beat to a somewhat similar drum in our mongering quest.

And some of the people with thousands of posts actually do have full time jobs. Suprising huh.It's interesting when I was new to to this forum I was denied any help and was told to write reports to get any recognition. Now I have been member of this forum for about 4 years and have written reports about Budapest, Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Frankfurt, saint Petersburg, Sofia, Bucharest, Warsaw, Dubai, Kiev, Sao Paulo, Rio de Janeiro, Bangkok, Jakarta, Kuala lumpur, Istanbul, Baku, Tbilisi, Astana, Almaty, Dushanbe, San Jose, Costa Rica, Panama City, Tijuana, Mexico. And still they are not satisfied just because I ask some questions.

[Wicked Roger]

Wicked, you easily can answer but you take more than ten minutes to signal other member's "flaws" from your perspective. Stop pushing away the new members.

A3

[CallSign Papa]

And still they are not satisfied just because I ask some questions.Maybe it's a language thing, but when you write things like


I think I deserve some info or contacts to find model type girlsit sounds petulant, entitled and churlish, which would probably make some members reluctant to reply to your many private messages.

To be honest, you aren't going to get the type of visit you want. Pinays don't work that way. You can play your trip to the finest detail but girls will cancel, be late, just not show up, or be not what you expected. Whilst the basic premise of "one visit over 3/4 days" might work in a lot of cities, in Manila the more pressure the put on yourself, the more you'll be disappointed.

Anyway, enjoy your trip, and be sure to report back.

[Cheema]

Maybe it's a language thing, but when you write things like

it sounds petulant, entitled and churlish, which would probably make some members reluctant to reply to your many private messages.

To be honest, you aren't going to get the type of visit you want. Pinays don't work that way. You can play your trip to the finest detail but girls will cancel, be late, just not show up, or be not what you expected. Whilst the basic premise of "one visit over 3/4 days" might work in a lot of cities, in Manila the more pressure the put on yourself, the more you'll be disappointed.

Anyway, enjoy your trip, and be sure to report back.I am sorry for the useless debate I have started here, I have cancelled my trip to Manila and looking for some other destination anyway thanks for help.

[Hutsori]

I have cancelled my trip to Manila...The nation mourns its loss, Malacanang Palace declares.

Cheema, have some resilience. Finding high-end model-type girls is easier said than done. How many model equivalents want a face full of spooge for p4000 to p6000? Most of the girls around are 4's to 6's, and 7's and 8's are attainable with some work and luck. Model types, by my definition, are the genuine 9's and 10's, such as those one sees on the cover of fashion zine and in adverts. Join the crowd chasing them. You can still have a great time here with 7's.

[Cheema]

The nation mourns its loss, Malacanang Palace declares.

Cheema, have some resilience. Finding high-end model-type girls is easier said than done. How many model equivalents want a face full of spooge for p4000 to p6000? Most of the girls around are 4's to 6's, and 7's and 8's are attainable with some work and luck. Model types, by my definition, are the genuine 9's and 10's, such as those one sees on the cover of fashion zine and in adverts. Join the crowd chasing them. You can still have a great time here with 7's.My cancellation has nothing to do with this forum. I just realised 4 days are not enough, I will do a proper visit of Philippines maybe in winter with better planning and will also go to some beach destinations such as Boracay beside Manila and will also visit Korea and Japan in the same trip.

[Giorgione1964]

I have been to Manila 5 or 6 times, and I am not acquainted with Royal.

Perhaps it is because I always stay in Makati and 90% of the women I meet are from Pinalove or DIA (the other 10% are from the mall across the street from the New World Makati Hotel), but Royal sounds good.

Can you tell me a little more about this place? Is it an FL bar? Where is it located? It sounds like a great place to have as a back up.

Many thanks, Giorgione.


Firstly apologies, this is a bit of a waffle.

I can say proudly that I've made virtually every mistake it's possible to make in Manila. Some of those mistakes I made despite having read of other people making the same mistakes on this very forum. Never underestimate a stupid person's ability to think "it won't happen to me" immediately before it does. But I digress.

One of the things I do know well is that if you're going to plan a tight weekend of juicy pinay hole spelunking, don't schedule them too close together because one or all of them is going to run late and that will throw your whole plan out of the window. So I decided to experiment with a new system, where i would split 3 sessions into 4 hour windows on Friday / Saturday starting at 2 pm (giving me time to kick out my morning delight). 4 hours would factor in "late" time and enough time to get down to some serious bumping of uglies you would think.

Filipinas have other ideas..

[Member #4566]

Wicked,Stop pushing away the new members.

A3Agreed. Concur.

[Member #4566]

And some of them, with their thousands of posts have responded with help many times, only to find that the help provided is disputed, ignored, questioned or outright denied by a newbie seeking help. So, why help?

All the info that's needed, or that's useful is probably in the forum. After all, we all beat to a somewhat similar drum in our mongering quest.

And some of the people with thousands of posts actually do have full time jobs. Suprising huh.You sound like this thing is giving you indigestion. You may want to take a time out. If this is causing you anguish take a few steps back and laugh out loud because it isn't worth it. Consider putting a different perspective on ISG. If you find yourself taking a proprietary interest in ISG, as I think you are, then you are too deeply involved. It may have become an unhealthy habit that you need to tame.

[Wicked Roger]

Agreed. Concur.Pompetus,

This was another one in my inbox today.

I will let you decide if I should help? BTW the poster has been warned at least 4 times for asking for 'digits' on open forum (India) - see FR history. And seems to be a serial asking questions and not contributing? He actually asked for digits 3 times in a row and was told by admin the rules 3 times.

Other members I know have recently complained about PMs such as this (one had 3 last week) yet we are chastised by you and a few others for not assisting and saying contribute first? I will let you know the guys handle if you want to reply to him and encourage him. Agreed (PM me of you need the information). And I have 2 more similar waiting for an answer I will pass to you also.

But then I have another PM asking me advice that I will reply to as the person shows RTFF research, asking specific questions and I can see he has does some homework.

[Aviator12]

I have been to Manila 5 or 6 times, and I am not acquainted with Royal.

Perhaps it is because I always stay in Makati and 90% of the women I meet are from Pinalove or DIA (the other 10% are from the mall across the street from the New World Makati Hotel), but Royal sounds good.

Can you tell me a little more about this place? Is it an FL bar? Where is it located? It sounds like a great place to have as a back up.

Many thanks, Giorgione.Royal is a nightclub in Makati. It is located in 5343 Gen. Luna St. Not far from Burgos. It is a typical club for locals and tourists and not a typical FL hang-out, but I am sure you can find some gems there. The place will probably fit those under 30 best, but if you are older and like the kind of club music I think it is one of the better options in Manila. For pick-up of FL's in Makati Havana is probably better, but you can try out both.

[CallSign Papa]

The place will probably fit those under 30 best, but if you are older and like the kind of club musicGoing to have to disagree with you there Aviator, I think Royal is one of those clubs where under 50, you're pretty much guaranteed to find what you need. I find Thursday the best night to go because it's busy but the M / F ratio is definitely stacked in our favour.

The club is on the smaller side so if it's not busy you can definitely get the feeling you're sticking out like a sore thumb, but anytime after 2 am the party is in full flow and you'll always be able to catch the eye of someone. What you do from there is up to you, but I've never shied away from talking to a girl who's already smiled at me.

One bit of advice related to Royal, don't hang by the bar at the back, it's mostly for the waiting staff and you just won't get to see what's going on near the dancefloor. I generally stand to the left of the dancefloor at the side, which is between the dancefloor and the ladies toilets and that increases the number of girls I can make contact with.

Enjoy.

[PhalloCentrist]

Hi all.

Newly arrived in Makati and really struggling to find what I'm looking for (which is hopefully easy). As can be checked from my previous post history, I'm not a manager, I even go out and explore for new places.

I am looking for an in call massage place in the Makati area that offers a decent massage with a BJ happy ending or a Nurumassage place that is in call. I've read and searched through the forum but only found references to people receiving PMs with the places. Spa is too short a word to search for. Been to a couple of spas locally where the massage was great but no extras offered, not even an accidental stroke given to the delicate areas.

Also chatted to quite a few places on WeChat but all of them have been home service only which I can't do presently.

Would really appreciate any pointers.The massage joints are cheap as chips but I hear that most don't do extra service.

I did recently try a joint on Amorsolo and received a half-decent HJ from a real cutie. Massage was 350 and tip 700 (she asked for 2 k). Her technique was OK but she did not allow any touching. There was no AC and no shower, so despite the cheap price I am unlikely to return.

[PhalloCentrist]

I recently visited Makati for work, and managed to find a colleague willing to take me on a pub crawl down the famous street of shame.

Most of the bars have the same MO. A scantly dressed young lady will engage you in conversation; you buy her a drink; she fondles your wedding tackle while you touch her up. Her drink costs about P350 ($7), pricey in the Philippines but cheap by international standards.

The girls are mostly young and slim. My personal observations from the joints I visited in the pub crawl:

- Best looking girls were in Plan be.

- Best lingerie in Tickles.

- Raunchiest girl was in WowWowWow (dick out at the bar itself).

- The closest approximation to a "normal" ambience was in Rogues.

- Biggest tits were in Bourbon St (but also older and chubby).

- Very few bars offered a sexual service in the bar itself.

Note: we did not visit every bar; we omitted inter alia Mirrors and Bottoms.

I was greatly tempted to barfine a real cutie from Rogues. She was great but seemed a tad too professional. In the end I opted to conclude the evening with a quickie in another joint where full service was available in the bar itself for P3 .5 K (2 K to the girl). That was a wild experience that I won't forget in a hurry. The other punters were just a few metres away while we sucked and fucked with gusto behind some curtains. The girl was cute with a real desire to please. With a bellyful of ale, it was hard to finish, but she managed it. Hence I gladly donated another 1 k tip.

Overall, a great experience that I hope to repeat.

[CallSign Papa]

Had been chatting to a 21 year old student, studying in Taguig, we agree to hang out in my condo one afternoon and watch a movie. Hadn't really talked too much about what would go down, but if a girl is down for visiting a strange guy's condo, chances are you're getting into her undergarments. At the last minute she asked if she can bring a friend, I tell her to send some photos and her friend is drop dead gorgeous. I figure with the two of them in my condo there's a very good chance no hanky panky is going down but I was bored and kinda worn out from a late Friday banging a particularly ravenous new girl.

They both show up, both cute as hell, and to get us all in the mood I open a bottle of wine, which gets drunk in less than 10 minutes (is it me or do pinays usually drink unreasonably slowly). They then ask to try the tequila I have nestled in the fridge, and halfway through the movie (which I put on purely as a token gesture) I'm already making out with one whilst the other is cuddled up close the other side of me. The vibe is "shit's about to go down" and I'm as excited as a 7 year old on Christmas eve. I ask Kris (the first girl) if we should all go watch the rest of the movie on my bed (god bless the Amazon fire stick), and that's where things turn weird. Kris whispers that we can go, but she doesn't want her friend to come. I ask why and she says because they're "shy to be naughty in front of each other".

So, because we're all tipsy I offer a compromise, I'll take them into the bedroom one at a time, and to my total astonishment they both break out into big smiles and nod in agreement.

In I go with Kris and whilst she's shy, her clothes come off lickety-split and she's got a rocking body, firm, tanned and with those lovely little upturned ski-jump boobs. We get down to it and I'm conscious that the (slightly) prettier one is still outside so I'm careful not to get overexcited and spend 15 minutes licking her pretty little holes which she seems to enjoy as much as I do. I can't seem to get her off entirely but I get pretty close and we cool off a little before I get up and invite her friend in. At this point I can't believe she'll actually come in, but she does as her friend is dressing and then swap places.

Jo is a little bit chubbier but is absolutely beautiful and is quicker to get naked (probably turned on from hearing the noises her friend was making). Because I'm a fair guy she got exactly the same treatment as Kris, although I spent longer sucking on Jo's perfectly puffy nipples and then had her ride me home.

We both rejoined Kris on the count, all red and giggling from the surreal but very funny / enjoyable last 45 minutes and ordered food. In the afterglow I was keen to push the advantage and asked when I could get them both in the same room. They were adamant they're not Bi and that it would just be weird to see each other naked, but were keen to repeat what had happened and I was keen to take what I could get.

There are lots of things that [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) me off royally about girls in Manila. Their general lack of brains and their awful timekeeping, but the things I love about them more than make up for it, so I'll keep coming (pardon the pun).

[D Cups]

Good story, CSP. It's definitely more fun in the Philippines!



So, because we're all tipsy I offer a compromise, I'll take them into the bedroom one at a time, and to my total astonishment they both break out into big smiles and nod in agreement.

but the things I love about them more than make up for it,..

[X Man]

Wow, you don't need me to tell you this, and no one is going to disagree, but I just want to say, that was a fine report. Thanks.


SNIP
They both show up, both cute as hell, and to get us all in the mood I open a bottle of wine,

SNIP

[The Tall Man]

I recently visited Makati for work, and managed to find a colleague willing to take me on a pub crawl down the famous street of shame.

Most of the bars have the same MO. A scantly dressed young lady will engage you in conversation; you buy her a drink; she fondles your wedding tackle while you touch her up. Her drink costs about P350 ($7), pricey in the Philippines but cheap by international standards.

The girls are mostly young and slim. My personal observations from the joints I visited in the pub crawl:

- Best looking girls were in Plan be.

- Best lingerie in Tickles.

- Raunchiest girl was in WowWowWow (dick out at the bar itself).

- The closest approximation to a "normal" ambience was in Rogues.

- Biggest tits were in Bourbon St (but also older and chubby).

- Very few bars offered a sexual service in the bar itself.

Note: we did not visit every bar; we omitted inter alia Mirrors and Bottoms.

I was greatly tempted to barfine a real cutie from Rogues. She was great but seemed a tad too professional. In the end I opted to conclude the evening with a quickie in another joint where full service was available in the bar itself for P3 .5 K (2 K to the girl). That was a wild experience that I won't forget in a hurry. The other punters were just a few metres away while we sucked and fucked with gusto behind some curtains. The girl was cute with a real desire to please. With a bellyful of ale, it was hard to finish, but she managed it. Hence I gladly donated another 1 k tip.

Overall, a great experience that I hope to repeat.I just returned to LOS Angeles after spending almost 3 weeks in Makati (aside from 3 days in AC), actually stayed at The Makati Palace Hotel on Burgos Street so everything was available at any time or day. This was my first visit to the Philippines.

I need to give a shout out to the hotel (Makati Palace Hotel) as they were very respectful to every girl that I brought in for either short term or long term with few staying a few days. No issues whatsoever with the hotel and standard procedure was to sign them in at the door, issue the waiver for me to sign, they left their ID with the doorman and had it returned to them when they left but ONLY after they call me to be sure that everything was alright with them to go. I would absolutely stay again.

I took a girl out of the following bars, Bottoms, Shampoo, Tickles, Kojax and another that I can't recall the name. A few bars I took different girls on different nights. Each girl was a bit different but all were cool, sexy, slender, loved sex and GFE and out of about 10 had BBFS with 3 of them.

Also tried a few street girls, chosen very carefully and they too proved cost conscious and fun. No issues.

Enjoyed the ability to converse in English with the girls which is something that enhances the experience for me given I like the ability to actually know a little about the girl and feel a connection with other than just renting their hole for 20 minutes which is not my style.

One drawback, if you could call it that, which I had commented on this board before my visit, was the fact that I am a very tall man and my tool has a big girth to it. I would inform each of the girls before I bar find them to be sure that they understood it but even though with a few girls I simply could not penetrate despite copious amounts of gel lubrication and a great deal of patience and effort. Not a problem as they would BBBJ and HJ me. Enjoyed their company nonetheless.

I never did meet any of the Filipino Cupid girls that I had communicated with weeks before my trip. The availability on Burgous Street was to easy and convenient.

Enjoyed the many friends that I met at Cafe Cubana.

A great trip for me and like you I too will repeat.

TTM.

[Muttley81]

My thanks to those people that responded to my enquiry regarding spa with extra service. General advice was to go down Burgos and enquire with street girls, I ignored this advice because I'm clearly an idiot. Haha.

Burgos is a bit of an issue for my 'secret' mongering, loads of people from work live in the area, if I'm spotted down there without being with them for a drink they'll know reason I'm there and secret will be out.

Decided to risk another spa tonight thinking the worse that could happen was a less sore back. After a bit of googling over last week or so managed to identify a spa on walk home that supposedly offered extras. Selected full body oil massage, hideous receptionist was trying to upsell 4 hand external prostate massage (whatever that is), kindly refused and continued to ask for massage I wanted. Go through, lay down on table and the receptionist began the massage. Already downer as if anything was offered would have to say no as would be impossible to get hard with sight before me, even if I closed eyes and began happy thoughts I'd still know.

Out of nowhere another two girls came in (room was tiny), receptionist was instructed to do legs while one of new girls started back. After much loud chatting third girl left me with the other two, who continued to talk loudly, one was even on headset to her boyfriend. As there were two girls session only lasted half as long as they if it were one girl, thankfully no extras offered this time. After horrible experience was glad to pay, get out of there and go for a beer.

To top it all the technique was so bad that my back pain is worse and my legs now hurt.

Looks like I'll be down Burgos real soon!

[YrMastr]

Has anyone ever utilized her services? Adverts on escortbook, CL and BP.

[The Tall Man]

Burgos is a bit of an issue for my 'secret' mongering, loads of people from work live in the area, if I'm spotted down there without being with them for a drink they'll know reason I'm there and secret will be out.
Trust me there is no secret, your work mates know that all guys play around, hell if you don't your not normal and then the secret will be out, hehehe, really every Filipino guy plays if they have a chance, don't get hung up on it life is short, just be cool don't get drunk and don't be seen with taking two lady boys to your hotel and just go sit and have a beer at Cafe Cubana and let the fun happen, you don't have to go searching for it, let it come to you. Again there are no secrets in Makati. Hell I told my work mates that I spent 3 days in AC and they simply ask "cool did you have a good time" wink wink.

TTM.

[CallSign Papa]

Trust me there is no secret, your work mates know that all guys play around,TTM is right, for the longest time I would act like a monk in the office (and am always careful with what I say and in not being overly familiar with the girls I work around), but it's a big unspoken understanding that they know that I know that they know when I say that I enjoy the nightlife in Manila, that means girls too. As long as you maintain a professional separation between work or pleasure, who does it harm?

You only live once (unless you're buddhist).

[FreebieFan]

You sound like this thing is giving you indigestion. You may want to take a time out. If this is causing you anguish take a few steps back and laugh out loud because it isn't worth it. Consider putting a different perspective on ISG. If you find yourself taking a proprietary interest in ISG, as I think you are, then you are too deeply involved. It may have become an unhealthy habit that you need to tame.Not at all. You read MUCH too much into the reply. I look at ISG once a day but there are way better forums for Philippines than ISG. Where everyone knows the Philippines and doesn't get harassed by digit seekers. Don't overthink the words you read here and you will be fine.

[Flak3]

After saying I was going to stay away from PI and try some new places, I ended up buying a plane ticket to PI anyway. Wasn't looking forward to my trip and even felt like canceling but after landing and seeing the beautiful smiling girls at Kojax, glad I returned.

Day 1.

Long flight in a tiny seat plus a 3 hour delay somehow ended up being only a 45 minute delay on my arrival time. Crossed thru customs in 10 minutes at 130 am. Grabbed a metered taxi but the meter didn't seem to work so just gave 340 P from the airport to Makati. Quick check in and free upgrade. Went to Kojax at 3 am and found plenty of young thin cuties. Had trouble trying to pick between a skinny girl flirting with me from the stage or two heavy chested spinners. Went with the skinnier of the full chested girls. She was 5 ft, 90 lbs, no baby, with full natural the's. Beautiful sight. Sweet girl but she was constantly messaging her prior "guests". 2900 bar fine plus 400 LD plus 3500 tip. Short time visit.

Day 2.

Started bar hopping around 9 pm. Went to Plan be and saw a couple skinny beauties I would BF. Went to Tickles and saw two more heavy chested girls wearing tiny bikinis. Very tempting but decided to keep bar hopping. Didn't see the two beauties from last time so that was disappointing. Not many beauties, just the two heavy chested cuties. The other girls were in their 30's and 40's or major baby damage. Next went to bottoms and and saw a couple cuties but no one I was really interested in. The girls were older (30's) and curvier. It was around 11 pm now so I decided to try Kojax again. I was hoping the girl from last night would not be there, I try not to repeat. Saw plenty of beauties again and the skinny one from the night before was flirting with me again. She was wearing one of the full body lingerie things that tucked into her jeans though so I was worried she might have baby damage so I passed. Unfortunately the mama thought I was back for the same girl as last night and brought her over again. Staring down at her giant boobies again, I couldn't say no. Same as the night before, including the "guest" messaging and this time a fight with some regular so she was blowing up his phone while laying next to me, haha. She left around 2 am so I decided to see if I could find a FL. Saw a couple cuties and then a cute 19 year old and her handler approached me. Asked for 3 lb countered with 2 k and made a deal. Back in the room she did not disappoint. Nice BJ with lots of tongue action and eye contact. Full Bush, which was sexy, slim body, surprised to find great C cups under her tight tank top. Paid and sent her on her way.

Day 3.

Jet lag kicked in and slept from 7 pm to 11 pm. Went to Plan be hoping to get this tall skinny kind with a great rack I saw the night before. Was swarmed by girls as I sat down though and someone else called her off the stage before me. Ended up buying two lds for an older gal and one girl who was young, cute and tempting but she wasn't exactly what I was trying for on my last night. Paid and tried tickles, dimples, mirror and bottoms again. More girls but no one I was really interested in. There was one skinny blond in a tight dress but she was entertaining someone already. Also, I was worried the dress was hiding baby damage. I think I was drawn to her mainly because she reminded me of a Thai beauty I met a few months back in Bangkok. Decided to check for FL. Saw one young cutie but her handler wouldn't budge from 3 k so I passed. Back to Kojax. Drastically different from the prior nights. Almost no lookers at all. Maybe midnight on Saturday meant all the cute girls were already taken? A girl mentioned xoxo and Saturday, not sure if she meant the pretty girls were downstairs at Xoxo or Xoxo isn't open on Saturdays. At this point I was pretty sloshed from the jet lag and Bar hopping so I didn't even notice whether downstairs was open. Decided to head back to plan be and check if the tall blonde was still around. She was but just long enough for me to see her change and walk out the door with another guy. Goes back to Tiffany you see a girl you like go for her or else she'll be gone. One other girl that was tempting, beautiful face, but it looked like she had baby damage so passed. As I walked outside the same FL from the previous is night caught me. Decided why not. Spent 3 days in Makati and saw the same 2 girls twice haha. Not my mo but no complaints.

Off to AC.

[ElNice]

I stayed in Makati for about 5 days, and I tried everything there, kinda disappointed though, P Burgos st isn't as fun as at least last year, I tried many "clubs" there, didn't find something worth taking. But maybe Bottoms was the best of them there are a few who are not bad, but the smell in these clubs is bad, and all are similar smell, I don't know what it is LOL. Also the club that at the corner of the street was ok not bad, I don't remember the name though. Didn't go to plan be although I was tempted to go to.

I went to Royal in a Saturday night, and it was full, also good talent there, the club was fun but it was small, entry fee was 500 pesos with 2 drinks.

My fav place there is Cafe Cubana, I like the band who plays there, and the waitresses are amazing, most of them are very helpful. The WG there aren't that good though, it's difficult to find a good one not to mention that there's a lot of LB there, so you have to ask before you go with one of them, my god they dress better than girls. There was one girl I took from the cafe, she has Korean features that's why I was attracted to her. She also beautiful but in bed she was meh. I had better encounters.

My friend met a girl in a bar called tequileria she wasn't the prettiest. After he left to Cebu, I was in that bar and I saw her, we talked for a while and I really like her, she was fun to be with and she loves to laugh. I decided to take her but she was drunk and I was sleepy + tipsy. So we just slept but when we woke up we did it, then we went for a lunch then came back we did it again, then we were talking for a couple of hours then did it again. Then we took a nap then I let her go at around 12 am and gave her 2 k. She didn't ask or talk about money at all, that's what made me like her more.

[The Tall Man]

I stayed in Makati for about 5 days, and I tried everything there, kinda disappointed though, P Burgos st isn't as fun as at least last year, I tried many "clubs" there, didn't find something worth taking. But maybe Bottoms was the best of them there are a few who are not bad, but the smell in these clubs is bad, and all are similar smell, I don't know what it is LOL. Also the club that at the corner of the street was ok not bad, I don't remember the name though. Didn't go to plan be although I was tempted to go to.

I went to Royal in a Saturday night, and it was full, also good talent there, the club was fun but it was small, entry fee was 500 pesos with 2 drinks.

My fav place there is Cafe Cubana, I like the band who plays there, and the waitresses are amazing, most of them are very helpful. The WG there aren't that good though, it's difficult to find a good one not to mention that there's a lot of LB there, so you have to ask before you go with one of them, my god they dress better than girls. There was one girl I took from the cafe, she has Korean features that's why I was attracted to her. She also beautiful but in bed she was meh. I had better encounters.

My friend met a girl in a bar called tequileria she wasn't the prettiest. After he left to Cebu, I was in that bar and I saw her, we talked for a while and I really like her, she was fun to be with and she loves to laugh. I decided to take her but she was drunk and I was sleepy + tipsy. So we just slept but when we woke up we did it, then we went for a lunch then came back we did it again, then we were talking for a couple of hours then did it again. Then we took a nap then I let her go at around 12 am and gave her 2 k. She didn't ask or talk about money at all, that's what made me like her more.True that, the lady boys are better dressed and perfect make-up and look almost to good, you can spot them from a block away.

TTM.

[WhatDHell]

Hi,

I will have a few hours free in the evening while in Makati (Fort area) and want to utilise these. I have read the forum and have a reasonable grasp of the places to go to, etc. However, I have a few limitations. I only have one evening free and cannot take a lady back to my hotel room.

So I assume, the FLs and bar girls of Burgos are ruled out, unless there are ST hotels in the vicinity. I couldn't find any recent information on the subject. That prompted me to look at massage places and I narrowed in on Shogun massage, which appears to be not too far and a sure shot place, unlike other places which I gather could be hit or miss. Also, I am not interested in a HJ.

I am looking at validation of my plan, or suggestions or advice on other options.

I am happy to spend for quality and prefer my ladies to be young, fit and prefer GFE over PSE.

I am Indian, reasonably maintained, decent to look at and not young. And I don't stink!

[Member #4558]

Hi,

I will have a few hours free in the evening while in Makati (Fort area) and want to utilise these. I have read the forum and have a reasonable grasp of the places to go to, etc. However, I have a few limitations. I only have one evening free and cannot take a lady back to my hotel room.

So I assume, the FLs and bar girls of Burgos are ruled out, unless there are ST hotels in the vicinity. I couldn't find any recent information on the subject. That prompted me to look at massage places and I narrowed in on Shogun massage, which appears to be not too far and a sure shot place, unlike other places which I gather could be hit or miss. Also, I am not interested in a HJ.

I am looking at validation of my plan, or suggestions or advice on other options.

I am happy to spend for quality and prefer my ladies to be young, fit and prefer GFE over PSE.

I am Indian, reasonably maintained, decent to look at and not young. And I don't stink!Hehe I know many Indian people who doesn't stink but sadly the rep is running faster than you and girls can be a tad selective / prejudiced. You can blame your countrymen (often operating in big groups) lack of hygienic standards for this. On the other hand a few trips ago I boinked a Philindian girl so somehow an Indian guy got her mothers pants off. If you go for P4P I guess you'll be fine and even safer of you hunt alone.

[WhatDHell]

Hehe I know many Indian people who doesn't stink but sadly the rep is running faster than you and girls can be a tad selective / prejudiced. You can blame your countrymen (often operating in big groups) lack of hygienic standards for this. On the other hand a few trips ago I boinked a Philindian girl so somehow an Indian guy got her mothers pants off. If you go for P4P I guess you'll be fine and even safer of you hunt alone.I am well aware of the reputation and monger alone. Thanks for the advice.

What do you think of my plan to visit the spa? Any suggestions?

[Mogwai]

So I assume, the FLs and bar girls of Burgos are ruled out, unless there are ST hotels in the vicinity. I couldn't find any recent information on the subject.Seoul Condos, General Luna, Makati. You can look it up in Google Maps. Decent ST hotel for about PhP 600.


I am Indian, reasonably maintained, decent to look at and not young. And I don't stink!Of course there are always exceptions to the rule. LOL, only joking mate.

[WhatDHell]

Seoul Condos, General Luna, Makati. You can look it up in Google Maps. Decent ST hotel for about PhP 600.Thanks mate. That's useful information and opens up the field for me. Cheers!

[Aviator12]

Spent 3 days in Burgos street recently. It was 5 years or so since last visit so I was interested to check out the scene. During the 3 days I visited almost all of the bars in this street. It is a relatively small area so 2-3 days here is suitable. To my surprise most of the bars were very quiet. Except for Plan be and Kojax. It seems that these bars stand out with the most beautiful girls. Same owner I am told. Really sexy girls and very playful. I did try 2 from Plan be. Barfine is 3000 peso and 3000 peso to the girl, so it is not cheap. One of the girls agreed to meet me after she finished work at Plan be at 4 am, so I avoided the barfine. She was very sexy but quite a freak; insisted on rimming wich I do not like and refused. She told me the bar do not treat the girls well; they only give her 1500 peso for one weeks work even she said she had a lot of LD that week. The bar refuse to give pay slip so the girls do not know the basis for their salary. So, in fact the girls must rely on barfine to survive. Both Plan be and Kojax are very nice bars, but it is sad that they treat the girls so bad. I met a girl in another bar that said she had left Kojax because they treat the girls so bad. Girls in other bars in Burgos was really not special at all. None to my liking anyway. In fact this street is overpriced. Spend your time in LA Cafe (2000 peso LT) or go to AC instead.

[On The Road]

In Burgos I had my luck with a pretty sw.

I made an easy deal at 2000 for 2 hours and 2 pops.

She was nice, she told me she is not a regular and she go in Burgos just once a month, we exchange phone numbers and I think as soon as I'll be back in Makati we can book a dinner together and another session. She promised me she will cook for me.

I gave here 2000+500 tip she was very happy with this.

I would never pay 6/7000 (plus LDs) only for picking a girl from a bar. Those are european prices.

[D Cups]

Agree although I will spend one night on Burgos / Clipper Hotel and probably opt for a bar BJ from a cute and busty little slurper in lieu of the barfine when I go there in Oct / Nov. Lots of girls will come over before or after work if you also want to avoid the ridiculous barfine. Just get their number (discretely). Also spending a full 12 days in Cebu (yipeee! 5 days in Dumaguete area (house hunting), 3 days in AC at Orchid Inn Resort and 3 days in Subic at Treasure Island (across from the floating bar and w*house) so I can hardly wait. The short, cheap one-way Cebu Pacific flights from Dumaguete to Cebu and Cebu to Clark are great. These trips to PI and DR are the main thing that keep me motivated the rest of the year. So I spend hours planning them. I book most of my hotels on agoda well in advance for a significant savings. And balance my regular bevy of beauties with new ones vying for a roster spot. Cheers.


Girls in other bars in Burgos was really not special at all. In fact this street is overpriced. Spend your time in LA Cafe (2000 peso LT) or go to AC instead.

[WestCoast1]

I would never pay 6/7000 (plus LDs) only for picking a girl from a bar. Those are european prices.Do the bars subtract the cost for the LD's from the EWR price?

[Member #4698]

Do the bars subtract the cost for the LD's from the EWR price?They used to subtract the price of LD drinks automatically. Now, I suggest the customer discuss / negotiate the issue with a mamasan before asking a girl over. This gives the customer maximum bargaining power.

In April when I was in Kojax a couple of times, for example, the mamasan offered to take a 1000 p off lady drinks which is essentially up to 3 free lady drinks provided I barfine the girl and no tab reduction if I did not barfine the girl. This sounds kind of ok, but in previous years before 2016, it was always 10 free lady drinks which equalled the barfine, btw, as long as the customer barfined the girl. The new policy is economically foolish IMHO because it discourages drinking! Many was the night when I used to party in Plan Be or Bottoms and would order 6 or 7 Tequilas or more (on special occasions) for myself and an equal number of lady drinks for my girl or girls. This always ran up quite a healthy tab. Now I am more to the point in Burgos bars and less about getting it on in the bar. I buy one or two drinks and lady drinks, to get to know the girl and to decide if I like her, then I leave with the girl or I let the girl go, either way, I spend a lot less money in the bar now than I used to due to the policy. And with the bar girls I know long time, we cut the bar out of the picture completely and just meet at my hotel where I have a bottle of Tequila or Jack on ice waiting for them. The girls don't like the new policy either because they are keenly aware that it reduces the number of customers visiting the bar and hurts their net income. The girls are not stupid. That's why it is so easy to arrange to meet them outside of the bar.

BTW, Kojax has a couple of seriously pretty girls. The Kojax super hotties are doing really well and have plenty of customers most of the time. The other girls are not doing as well. But on my last trip I preferred EDSA (Cotton Club) over Kojax. There were plenty of girls my spec (5 to be exact) and they were very friendly and horny for handsome customers like myself. LOL. Barfine prices are 1950p and I didn't bother to negotiate for lady drinks. Instead I just kept the drinking to a minimum. My Cotton Club girl and I drank one beer each and played around a little before I took her out of the bar twice. Personally, I liked the vibe in Cotton Club better than Kojax or Plan be as well as the girls.

My two favorite girls work in Bottoms. I saw a lot of them this last trip and took them with me to Sabang, Palawan for 4 days. I had a great time. And as much as I saw those two, I never stepped foot in Bottoms the entire 3 weeks I was in the Manila. If I were to see my Cotton Club girl again on my next trip, I would expect her to come straight to my hotel as well.

I still like Burgos. I picked up a very young looking 18 year old massage girl one night and after her initial shyness wore off after I went down on her, she showed me a great time. I like some of the new small restaurants sprouting up near Burgos too. It's a burgening scene. Too bad about the insane bar policy change.

[BrainDrain]

AThese trips to PI and DR are the main thing that keep me motivated the rest of the year. So I spend hours planning them. I book most of my hotels on agoda well in advance for a significant savings. And balance my regular bevy of beauties with new ones vying for a roster spot. Cheers.I appreciate your and all of our penchant for planning everything so well. The Philippines is one of those countries where a little spare time can product unexpected results. Please consider a spare day towards the end of your trip where your roster can accommodate some random new opportunity.

BD.

[D Cups]

Good idea, BD, Maybe EDSA. I have never been there!


I appreciate your and all of our penchant for planning everything so well. The Philippines is one of those countries where a little spare time can product unexpected results. Please consider a spare day towards the end of your trip where your roster can accommodate some random new opportunity.

BD..

[HvyHitter81]

Hello gents,

Planning on going to Manila in couple weeks and staying for the weekend.

I was checking to see if anyone here as tried getting a girl from Manilacourtesans website?

They got some stunners on there and just seeing if this place is legit and how the girls are if anyone has tried.

I guess the prices seem reasonable, but I haven't been to Manila in quite some time.

Thanks gents.

[Blanquiceleste]

But on my last trip I preferred EDSA (Cotton Club) over Kojax. There were plenty of girls my spec (5 to be exact) and they were very friendly and horny for handsome customers like myself. EDSA is really like a box of chocolates. You never know what you might find there. A couple of times I have picked stunners but there are woeful times when I could not find a single chick in any of the bars there. Surprisingly the prices have been stable there for a while now. I am not complaining.

[WestCoast1]

Planning on going to Manila in couple weeks and staying for the weekend. I was checking to see if anyone here as tried getting a girl from Manilacourtesans website?I guess WR would call HH 'Managerial class'. Not to be mean-spirited HH, but you have been to Manila before (see below) and haven't filed a Field Report. Also you mentioned manilacourtesans before (below) your previous trip in March, and you're asking about them again -- how were they the first time?

I think we'd like to help you out, but you have to give back to the Board in terms of quality FR's. Please report on your previous trip; tell us about your hotel, restaurants, girls, etc. No taking without giving.


So I am planning to be in Manila and Cebu for some adventures in two weeks. I trying to see if anyone had and dealings with the backpage girls that are always posting? I am thinking about giving some of those girls a call, but of course some are too good to be true.

This isn't my first time in Manila or Cebu actually ventured here few times before but the only thing I haven't been able to find are some really good hammers. I have seen some guys with girls that are straight 10's walking around. Any of you guys have some good incites of finding these gorgeous women? I'm pretty sure most of the girls on there are using stolen pictures.

There is an online escort services co that I keep seeing advertising some pretty good girls, has anyone tried using the manilacourtesans.com site in getting a girl? Supposedly they have 2 ex FHM girls. But who knows, price seems reasonable I guess as well.

[BrainDrain]

I guess WR would call HH 'Managerial class'. Not to be mean-spirited HH, but you have been to Manila before (see below) and haven't filed a Field Report. Also you mentioned manilacourtesans before (below) your previous trip in March, and you're asking about them again -- how were they the first time?

I think we'd like to help you out, but you have to give back to the Board in terms of quality FR's. Please report on your previous trip; tell us about your hotel, restaurants, girls, etc. No taking without giving.I just assumed HH was a promoter of that website.

[Member #4566]

Not to be mean-spirited HH.If you don't want to be mean-spirited then why are you being mean-spirited? Why don't you leave newcomers alone?

[WestCoast1]

If you don't want to be mean-spirited then why are you being mean-spirited? Why don't you leave newcomers alone?Because he takes without giving. He's been to phils before and mentioned it here, but never filed a FR.

[CallSign Papa]

If you don't want to be mean-spirited then why are you being mean-spirited? Why don't you leave newcomers alone?You've been posting on this board since 2013, let's not be disingenuous. You know why.

[Member #4566]

You've been posting on this board since 2013, let's not be disingenuous. You know why.I have no idea what you are talking about. However for what it is worth, I have been posting here and on other sex info boards for over 20 years. But I have better things to do than investigate the posting history of those who use this forum. There are those who look for opportunities to scold and ridicule. Why? It must reflect the way that they themselves have treated.

[HvyHitter81]

I guess WR would call HH 'Managerial class'. Not to be mean-spirited HH, but you have been to Manila before (see below) and haven't filed a Field Report. Also you mentioned manilacourtesans before (below) your previous trip in March, and you're asking about them again -- how were they the first time?

I think we'd like to help you out, but you have to give back to the Board in terms of quality FR's. Please report on your previous trip; tell us about your hotel, restaurants, girls, etc. No taking without giving.Yes, I have been to manila, on my last trip I actually skipped Manila and went to Cebu. I thought I reported something about a massage I got at the quest hotel across the street from Ayala mall, I guess I didn't. I also have been to Manila as well but just seeing if anyone has any luck with BP or the escort site mentioned, that's all.

Apologies gents,

Manila has been a long time ago, also I forgot I even posted that, never checked back to see if anyone responded to the previous one.

Not on here to get into it with anyone here.

But it is my mistake not checking back in timely manner on responses and that I apologizes for gents.

Cheers!

[WhatDHell]

Short FR on my recent visit to Shogun spa, the branch near Makati. Pasig area, I think.

Charges for room are 2 k pesos. I was asked to choose off a computer screen, which I did, not being in the mood to ask for in person interviews, etc.

Chose Ava, supposedly 19 years old, more like 25-26, but nice body. No child damage.

Was driven to a nearby ST hotel. Very average rooms.

Enjoyed the nuru massage, was quoted 1. 5 k for HJ and 5 k for ATW (sic).

Chatted with her, tried to get her to be a bit more reasonable, but did not succeed.

I liked the body slide, etc. But found the rates for extras excessive.

YMMV.

Also tried flight 168. Came away very underwhelmed with quality of room and girls. Perhaps because I went very late (around 1:00 am). Total charges 1. 2 k for room and 1. 5 k to the girl.

I'll also post this in the Manila forum.

[CallSign Papa]

But I have better things to do than investigate the posting history of those who use this forum.And that's absolutely your right, but the Phil threads seem to have a much higher than average problem with noobs showing up, requesting information never to be seen again. It is, to put it mildly, frustrating and is therefore plainly obvious why senior members who do contribute to this board might occasionally be curt.

[BrainDrain]

And that's absolutely your right, but the Phil threads seem to have a much higher than average problem with noobs showing up, requesting information never to be seen again. It is, to put it mildly, frustrating and is therefore plainly obvious why senior members who do contribute to this board might occasionally be curt.Or put another way, the people that are on this board contribute regularly, so when a freeloader turns up it is quite obvious. The Philippine threads just don't have a lot of rubbish posts which is why they are so valuable.

[Member #4566]

the Phil threads seem to have a much higher than average problem with noobs. . . It is, frustrating to senior members.(1) It is not a problem. (2) If some senior members are feeling frustrated then this should be a warning that they are too deeply involved in ISG.

[Member #4566]

The Philippine threads just don't have a lot of rubbish posts. And while we are on the subject of rubbish posts. . .

[Wicked Roger]

And that's absolutely your right, but the Phil threads seem to have a much higher than average problem with noobs showing up, requesting information never to be seen again. It is, to put it mildly, frustrating and is therefore plainly obvious why senior members who do contribute to this board might occasionally be curt.CSP remember the UAE board that is infested with newbies and the rubbish some of us took to persuade them to contribute. Joe K et al who were accused of being racist etc? If they only knew the nationality of some of the seniors they tried to rubbish and pour scorn on.

Pomp does not help either but he likes to point out others who won't for the sensible reasons BD, you, Westie etc have noted (and others too on other boards).

All is fine when a newbie asks questions say via PM showing RTFF (example Loso69 when he came to the UAE for the first time, me when I first went to Manila) but as blatant "send me her digits' or "where is this place" does cause frustration. And in some people's cases (we both know who in the UAE) caused grief when a newbie (who was kindly helped) showed the lady the board, the pics, used the senior name and then did not pay. So Pomp if / when this happens to you maybe you will change your tune as it has happened to me and others who comment about it.

[Shark5]

Just returned from a visit to my favorite place, the Philippines. While in Makati I visited P. Burgoes St and only a couple bars. Not really my thing in Makati. The bars aren't as easy going as in AC. You walk in and get mobbed by girls and waitresses asking for drinks. The pressure is high in every bar I went in to on Burgos. The only bar that was different was, Wow wow wow. Fun bar, the talent isn't the best but the girls and atmosphere is good. Great bar to have a few beers with out the pressure.

I also visited Cafe Havana for the first time in probably 6 years and had a good time. Some new girls and amazingly saw some of the same girls from 6 years ago. Music was good and plenty of talent to go around.

Free lancers at Cafe Cubana were pretty good this trip. A lot of the same girls but several new very attractive ladies. All in all, I had a great time with my short time in Makati before making the trek to AC.

[BrainDrain]

If some senior members are feeling frustrated then this should be a warning that they are too deeply involved in ISG.I get good returns from posting genuine experiences here on ISG.

I spend the majority of my day posting on other mainstream media which is my actual job.

BD.

[WestCoast1]

(1) It is not a problem. (2) If some senior members are feeling frustrated then this should be a warning that they are too deeply involved in ISG.You're stating your opinion like its some kind of fact. Others might respectfully disagree.

[Soapy Smith]

And that's absolutely your right, but the Phil threads seem to have a much higher than average problem with noobs showing up, requesting information never to be seen again. It is, to put it mildly, frustrating and is therefore plainly obvious why senior members who do contribute to this board might occasionally be curt.Three possible explanations:

1. The Phils board has a comparatively large number of knowledgeable senior posters so that the noobs stand out more; or.

2. There are more noobs planning or imagining visiting the Phils because of the ease of communication in English; or.

3. Having stumbled onto ISG they start looking around and comparing boards for various countries, the consistently excellent Phils photo forum attracts their attention, and this in turn loosens restraint on their brains and lots of unreflective questions just naturally pour out.

[Wicked Roger]

Three possible explanations:

1. The Phils board has a comparatively large number of knowledgeable senior posters so that the noobs stand out more; or.

2. There are more noobs planning or imagining visiting the Phils because of the ease of communication in English; or.

3. Having stumbled onto ISG they start looking around and comparing boards for various countries, the consistently excellent Phils photo forum attracts their attention, and this in turn loosens restraint on their brains and lots of unreflective questions just naturally pour out.4. They are lazy and have a sense of 'entitlement' (to quote my good ISG mate Joe K) LOL.

[Member #4558]

Probably better to just ignore the "takers". They will never go away bcs the problem they don't RTFF in the first place and will not see the fine gents previous postings anyway. Filling any thread with this semi hostile postings only makes it harder to find the fine propper info (for people interested in RTFF for actual information).

I am also to blame, even by this post, for hunting down the "takers" bcs its irritating. But since this forum is maybe 5/1000's of my life (important twice) I don't let it ruin my day.

[CallSign Papa]

(1) It is not a problem. (2) If some senior members are feeling frustrated then this should be a warning that they are too deeply involved in ISG.Dude, seriously. You're entitled to your opinion but just being a contrarian for the sake of it is dull.

Going forward I'll reserve the right to call out anyone if I feel they're abusing other people's generosity with no intention of reciprocity. I do that in my day to day life, does that mean I'm too involved there too?

[Howard12]

Has anyone got any experience with brothel type places in or around Makati EG. The casas around Casino & Bautista st?

[Wicked Roger]

Has anyone got any experience with brothel type places in or around Makati EG. The casas around Casino & Bautista st?There is plenty of info on the casas that a quick RTFF would provide. Not as much as hotels and bars but some all the same.

Failing that ask Pompetus as he seems to know a lot about this.

Look forward to your first FR as newbies are encouraged to write and lets us know or Pomp can you help?

[Bogota Visitor]

I was planning a visit to Bogota though I cancelled when I read about street crimes and muggings in that city. I am not a risk taker and it shows. I didn't intend on seeing prostitutes though my plan was to meet on Colombian Cupid and frequent dance bars and meet girls. Also maybe invite private nude dancers for private dances though no sex or sexual activities of any kind. Anyhow was thinking about an alternative destination and that was Manila. It has plenty of night clubs so when I started a research on Philippines to my surprise I realize that prostitution is a very serious crime in Philippines.

https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEV2lvMY9ZBBAAxybrFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZXN1bWppBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQ0FDMDAxXzEEc2VjA3Ny?qid=20080909110438AACyb1l&p=penalty%20for%20prostitution%20philippines%20australian%20guy%20got%2020%20years

So how you guys dare to monger? It appears that enforcement is not that frequent but they enforce it randomly and once one caught then it is so harsh it is worse than death. For example an Australian guy got 20 years in a Philippine jail for hiring the services of a prostitute in Angeles city! At first I thought she was [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) for which he deserved it but no she was of legal age. And then I learn Philippine's laws treat prostitutes as [CodeWord902] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord902) no matter how old they may be so based on those laws seeing a 40 year old has same penalties as seeing a 14 year old for the latter case it must be a serious crime.

[Wicked Roger]

I was planning a visit to Bogota though I cancelled when I read about street crimes and muggings in that city. I am not a risk taker and it shows. I didn't intend on seeing prostitutes though my plan was to meet on Colombian Cupid and frequent dance bars and meet girls. Also maybe invite private nude dancers for private dances though no sex or sexual activities of any kind. Anyhow was thinking about an alternative destination and that was Manila. It has plenty of night clubs so when I started a research on Philippines to my surprise I realize that prostitution is a very serious crime in Philippines.

https://ca.answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=A0LEV2lvMY9ZBBAAxybrFAx.;_ylu=X3oDMTEzZXN1bWppBGNvbG8DYmYxBHBvcwMxBHZ0aWQDQ0FDMDAxXzEEc2VjA3Ny?qid=20080909110438AACyb1l&p=penalty%20for%20prostitution%20philippines%20australian%20guy%20got%2020%20years

So how you guys dare to monger? It appears that enforcement is not that frequent but they enforce it randomly and once one caught then it is so harsh it is worse than death. For example an Australian guy got 20 years in a Philippine jail for hiring the services of a prostitute in Angeles city! At first I thought she was for which he deserved it but no she was of legal age. And then I learn Philippine's laws treat prostitutes as no matter how old they may be so based on those laws seeing a 40 year old has same penalties as seeing a 14 year old for the latter case it must be a serious crime.Plenty discussion on this if you RTFF.

But a quick look at your FR history says you ask lots of questions about the safety of Bogota but have never been there and members on that board have told you not to come if you think it is dangerous so the same should be said about the Philippines (or anywhere else for that matters) where you think your personal safety is at risk (we all have different criteria on this).

And you said last year in one 'FR' "I have never been with any escorts in Botoga or anywhere else" so are you really a monger or someone who likes to tell everyone that the hobby some of us enjoy has risks?

If you want to come to the Philippines would suggest a thorough RTFF first as posting questions / comment as you have done mainly in Colombia does tend to lead to unusual replies. After the RTFF, please visit and post some FRs of the experience as always good to see what newbies to the country think rather than the old hands and'est pas?

[CallSign Papa]

So how you guys dare to monger? It appears that enforcement is not that frequent but they enforce it randomly and once one caught then it is so harsh it is worse than death. You're more likely to be arrested for failing to pay a girl for sex in Manila.

[WestCoast1]

So how you guys dare to monger?Um, with a camera? Me-thinx we got a Basement Barney on our hands. . .

[On The Road]

Do you like skinny, very skinny girls?

Fhen is a 22yo nice skinny girl, no children, really tight, eager to please and happy to meet. She lives in Makati area. Drop me a PM if you would like her contact.
Oh, and she likes threesome, too, just in case.

[MvuLane]

Do you like skinny, very skinny girls?

Fhen is a 22yo nice skinny girl, no children, really tight, eager to please and happy to meet. She lives in Makati area. Drop me a PM if you would like her contact.
Oh, and she likes threesome, too, just in case.Some other people here may like more chubby / older (=experienced) girls but for me this represent *the* reason I go to Pinas for mongering reasons. It is the last place where one can find such beauties willing to please and not asking exorbitant "gifts" (apparently compensated dating may give access to some equivalent material in other parts of the world, but you'll pay the price).

Anyway, In my case, I've scored a few and mostly in "offbeat" neighborhoods where I ventured. A white man in his 30's walking the poor bgy (not in Manila but in other islands!) does get some attention. That said. Even if I liked the results. I didn't like the experience as I felt in danger (99% of the people were friendly and nice, but the remaining 1%.). A simple offer to go grad a bite was enough to leave the place with slim pretty girls for the afternoon and into the night.

So my question: how did you get to know this fine girl, in Makati!

I might ask her details via PM or try to do the same!

[On The Road]

Some other people here may like more chubby / older (=experienced) girls but for me this represent *the* reason I go to Pinas for mongering reasons. It is the last place where one can find such beauties willing to please and not asking exorbitant "gifts" (apparently compensated dating may give access to some equivalent material in other parts of the world, but you'll pay the price).

Anyway, In my case, I've scored a few and mostly in "offbeat" neighborhoods where I ventured. A white man in his 30's walking the poor bgy (not in Manila but in other islands!) does get some attention. That said. Even if I liked the results. I didn't like the experience as I felt in danger (99% of the people were friendly and nice, but the remaining 1%.). A simple offer to go grad a bite was enough to leave the place with slim pretty girls for the afternoon and into the night.

So my question: how did you get to know this fine girl, in Makati!

I might ask her details via PM or try to do the same!A good work on dating sites can be great. You can find any kind of girls, of course. From virgins God fearing ones to wild semi-pro.

I've met many girls from different dating sites, with a little bit of experience it is easy to understand who's a good girl and who's a wild one. And sometime I found semi pro girls in LA cafe or Cafe Havana showing me their account.

For me is funny to meet good girls for lunch or dinner f I have enough time, I still have good relationship with some even if I wasn't able to score with them, such as meeting wild ones just knocking at my hotel room a couple of hours after our first message.

In Cebu I met a semipro skinny girl sooooo hot, maybe the best sex in my life, I saw her online and I wrote her around midnight "I'm in Cebu, want to meet?" And she knoched at my door one hour later. I'm sorry I can't share her contact because she told me not to do (she had a foreing BF, too). In province a pro athlete and pro model knocked at my door 10 am in the morning. 19 yo and the hottest body I ever seen, I met her daily for a week, but only in morning because she had school, workout in afternoon with her team (I went to see them) and she can't go out at night because of her very strict family. On my last day there she came visiting at 7am, because I had my flight little bit later and she must go to school at 9am. Can't share her contact too, sorry.

So, in my case dating sites can be the answer if you have enough time (or Facebook / Instagram too, if you are already friend of some pinay girls there. Just look for her friends, message them and you can score), so it was for Fhen.

Oh and in province I use even a different approach: asking phone numbers on hot girls in the streets. I just approach them telling "Sorry may I ask you an information? Is it possible to have your phone number?" I'm not good looking, I'm not that young. But when I do it with a smile I get 100% of smiles back, around 50% of phone numbers, around 25% of successful meetings. and I never feel in danger anywhere in the Philippines, outside Manila or Cebu.

[Flak3]

Plan B.

Picked up a short, early twenties girl with a large rack and no baby. Okay face, little flabby body, but gray tits and attitude. 3000 BF and 5000 tip for LT. I kicked her loose after two shots or 3 hours. I like to sleep alone but she was game to stay so I gave her the agreed upon amount.

Kojax.

Picked up a skinny girl with small tits, no baby, early twenties. 2900 BF and 3500 tip for ST.

Tickles.

Picked up the cutie I missed in June. Her friend was at the bar also, but I didn't want to go for the double. Wish I had one more night for her friend. 3500 BF 4000 tip for LT. She asked to leave early. Otherwise she was great.

[Member #4591]

Plan B.

Picked up a short, early twenties girl with a large rack and no baby. Okay face, little flabby body, but gray tits and attitude. 3000 BF and 5000 tip for LT. I kicked her loose after two shots or 3 hours. I like to sleep alone but she was game to stay so I gave her the agreed upon amount.

Kojax.

Picked up a skinny girl with small tits, no baby, early twenties. 2900 BF and 3500 tip for ST.

Tickles.

Picked up the cutie I missed in June. Her friend was at the bar also, but I didn't want to go for the double. Wish I had one more night for her friend. 3500 BF 4000 tip for LT. She asked to leave early. Otherwise she was great.Please forgive this newbie question. I thought the Philippines was cheaper than Thailand. However, I see your examples being about 4,000-5,000 Baht for a LT encounter and you let them go early. This is the same or even more expensive than Thailand depending on the girl. Is this normal or am I missing something? I don't want to spark a big long price debate so please just tell me what I'm missing so I can plan accordingly. Thanks in advance.

[Flak3]

Please forgive this newbie question. I thought the Philippines was cheaper than Thailand. However, I see your examples being about 4,000-5,000 Baht for a LT encounter and you let them go early. This is the same or even more expensive than Thailand depending on the girl. Is this normal or am I missing something? I don't want to spark a big long price debate so please just tell me what I'm missing so I can plan accordingly. Thanks in advance.My experience is that P Burgos is very close to Soi Cowboy or Walking Street. Around 3000 peso BF and minimum 3000 peso tip (negotiable), $120 USD. I was just in Bangkok and am currently in Pattaya. In Bangkok for Nana I was paying 700 to 1500 baht BF and 2000 to 3000 baht tips. For Walking Street, I just paid 1500 baht BF and 3000 baht tip at Fahrenheit, so around $140 USD. I also had 1000 baht in lady drinks, so that was way more than P Burgos.

[Flak3]

Please forgive this newbie question. I thought the Philippines was cheaper than Thailand. However, I see your examples being about 4,000-5,000 Baht for a LT encounter and you let them go early. This is the same or even more expensive than Thailand depending on the girl. Is this normal or am I missing something? I don't want to spark a big long price debate so please just tell me what I'm missing so I can plan accordingly. Thanks in advance.Also, the amounts are in pesos not baht. 5000 baht would be around 8000 pesos. So at 4000 pesos it's about half the tip for long time at P Burgos gogo bars.

[WestCoast1]

Please forgive this newbie question. I thought the Philippines was cheaper than Thailand. However, I see your examples being about 4,000-5,000 Baht for a LT encounter and you let them go early. This is the same or even more expensive than Thailand depending on the girl. Is this normal or am I missing something? I don't want to spark a big long price debate so please just tell me what I'm missing so I can plan accordingly. Thanks in advance.His paying p8000 (3 k + 5 k, about $160 USD) is about 5300 baht. Phils girls out of the Burgos bars will be about the most expensive. I typical barfine along Burgos would be 3-4 k for the barfine, and you would negotiate separately a tip with the girl before she agreed to depart the bar, usually 2-4 k-ish. His prices seem normal or just above (given he's on Burgos). You can get girls separately from the P Burgos bars for much less.

His keeping the girls ST-only is his prerogative. Yes, he's splashing some cash, but that seems to be his thing.

[Cocoser]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Manila in mid-September for a day. I think I'll stop in the Makati area.

It would be desirable to distract this day from everything and spend the day (evening, night, morning) with cool Filipino girl.

I would be grateful if someone would share the contacts / coordinates of a trusted girl whom you can recommend.

There will be only one day, and I do not want to be engaged in searches, but I want to be sure of the choice. For a full quality service is interested, not an sour person, who wants to get home as soon as possible and do as little as possible in bed, and only watch TV and in the phone (there was already such an experience with girls).

[BrainDrain]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Manila in mid-September for a day. I think I'll stop in the Makati area.

It would be desirable to distract this day from everything and spend the day (evening, night, morning) with cool Filipino girl.

I would be grateful if someone would share the contacts / coordinates of a trusted girl whom you can recommend.

There will be only one day, and I do not want to be engaged in searches, but I want to be sure of the choice. For a full quality service is interested, not an sour person, who wants to get home as soon as possible and do as little as possible in bed, and only watch TV and in the phone (there was already such an experience with girls).Welcome to the forum. There are heaps of excellent girls in Manila and I am sure you will be happy.

Will you be arriving at NAIA Terminal 3? If so, make sure your taxi uses the Skyway. The girls in the Toll Booths are usually exceptionally good looking and willing to take your money. Ask the driver to tip the toll operator well and she might join you. That way you do not even have to leave your car. No searching at all.

If you do not have the time "to be engaged in searches" then I'm not sure how you will find them.

If the toll operator won't come with you then try AirForce One https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQZxMsRloMA. The Air Force is in Pasay.

BD.

[Wicked Roger]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Manila in mid-September for a day. I think I'll stop in the Makati area.

It would be desirable to distract this day from everything and spend the day (evening, night, morning) with cool Filipino girl.

I would be grateful if someone would share the contacts / coordinates of a trusted girl whom you can recommend.

There will be only one day, and I do not want to be engaged in searches, but I want to be sure of the choice. For a full quality service is interested, not an sour person, who wants to get home as soon as possible and do as little as possible in bed, and only watch TV and in the phone (there was already such an experience with girls).You saw BD's FR / reply also and I would echo that but would add this.

I would PM Pompetus as he is the best placed to assit you find the real quality.

Pomp can you FR on the board also so we all know where to go? As Airforce can be hit and miss as we know and the new manager needs guarantee quality and no sour face so we await you ideas for Cocoser.

[CallSign Papa]

The girls in the Toll Booths are usually exceptionally good looking and willing to take your money. I'll never forget my first time with a toll gate girl. It really blew my mind, it arrived much sooner than I expected and there I was rushing and fumbling around (never happened to me before) and the whole thing was over very quickly. She really got me where I needed to go though (the Skyway).

Best 20 pesos I ever spent.

[Nolz7]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Manila in mid-September for a day. I think I'll stop in the Makati area.I don't think we are allowed to post contacts in the forum so if you can PM me I might be able to help.

[BrainDrain]

I'll never forget my first time with a toll gate girl. It really blew my mind, it arrived much sooner than I expected and there I was rushing and fumbling around (never happened to me before) and the whole thing was over very quickly. She really got me where I needed to go though (the Skyway).

Best 20 pesos I ever spent.To be totally honest, most of the Toll booth girls are very hot. Who ever is in charge of toll booth recruitment is certainly focus on quality. I mean this from a real life point of view, not joking, they do seem consistently nice and pretty.

[Pcpc1688]

Hi guys,

I'll be in Manila in mid-September for a day. I think I'll stop in the Makati area.

It would be desirable to distract this day from everything and spend the day (evening, night, morning) with cool Filipino girl.

I would be grateful if someone would share the contacts / coordinates of a trusted girl whom you can recommend.

There will be only one day, and I do not want to be engaged in searches, but I want to be sure of the choice. For a full quality service is interested, not an sour person, who wants to get home as soon as possible and do as little as possible in bed, and only watch TV and in the phone (there was already such an experience with girls).I usually wave 5 Blue notes at Ayala, seems to work everytime at night. Try that method.

PC out.

[Cocoser]

I don't think we are allowed to post contacts in the forum so if you can PM me I might be able to help.I think I can't do it. Because I am young here. Could you write me first.

Guys, thank you for answers. Tell me please what is usual price for spend full night with a girl from LaCafe and AirForce?

[BaddHabbit]

I'll never forget my first time with a toll gate girl. It really blew my mind, it arrived much sooner than I expected and there I was rushing and fumbling around (never happened to me before) and the whole thing was over very quickly. She really got me where I needed to go though (the Skyway).

Best 20 pesos I ever spent.This is where you need a 'Like' button for ISG!

[Chocha Monger]

To be totally honest, most of the Toll booth girls are very hot. Who ever is in charge of toll booth recruitment is certainly focus on quality. I mean this from a real life point of view, not joking, they do seem consistently nice and pretty.Those toll booth girls are sexy classy sweethearts. I have never had one roll her eyes at me even when I fumble in my pockets for pesos. They are paragons of patience and way hotter than the Cebu Pacific stewardesses who harass me to strap up as soon I climb aboard. If I had one word to describe Skyway toll booth girls, it would be sweet. I can never forget the time that I paid the toll with a big bill, and the girl leaned out of her booth to hand me the change exposing her creamy cleavage. I was completely distracted. In that moment, a long lock of her black silky hair spilled from her cap brushing the back of my hand. She smiled at me shyly as her dimpled cheeks blushed. I jizzed in my pants! The sudden release of tension caused my foot to spasm on the accelerator sending the rental car shooting onto the Skyway as the barrier gaped open.

Will I ride the Skyway again? You bet your sweet ass I will!

[D Cups]

2 - 3 K at LAC. Triple that for Air Force. Is that right guys? I haven't been there in a year but that's what is was over a year ago.


I think I can't do it. Because I am young here. Could you write me first.

Guys, thank you for answers. Tell me please what is usual price for spend full night with a girl from LaCafe and AirForce?

[Wicked Roger]

2 - 3 K at LAC. Triple that for Air Force. haven't been there in a year but that's what is was over a year ago.Prices so different nowadays for LAC aka MBC but then depends on quality as we all know. I would double your estimates at least.

But he has been asked to PM Nolz7 so then he can get a better indication perhaps.

And where is Pompetus? Surely he can provide the help to back up his recent statements or not?

Coco. Best you PM as some of the information requested is against the forum rules regarding the board so best read those first IMHO.

[On The Road]

Please forgive this newbie question. I thought the Philippines was cheaper than Thailand. However, I see your examples being about 4,000-5,000 Baht for a LT encounter and you let them go early. This is the same or even more expensive than Thailand depending on the girl. Is this normal or am I missing something? I don't want to spark a big long price debate so please just tell me what I'm missing so I can plan accordingly. Thanks in advance.Like in Thai, there are very different price you can spend on girl. BF a girl out of a gogo in Nana or Soi Cowboy or in P Burgos is way more expensive than getting a semipro or a freelancer around. In both case, The Philippines are cheaper than Thailand.

BTW what's really better in the Phils is the amount of freelancers or "good" girls available, even out of the sex spots. In Thai it is not so easy to know a girl if she is not somehow in the sex industry (even only for a night out in front of the Nana Hotel), in the Philippines any girl you meet around is a possible catch.

If you are into great, professional sex, Thai is the perfect place even if little bit more expensive than the Philippines. You know what you get, and most time you get great sex from a beautiful and skilled girl.

The Phils are more on the GFE side, with that little bit more adventure. Sometime even bad adventure, wasting long time with a girl with no score, but for me is part of the fun.

[Member #4566]

We need to thank the Tollbooth Buggars for donating a classic example of our poor treatment of newcomers to the ISG forum. The Tollbooth Buggars emerged in their responses to Cocoser who recently came to ISG with an inquiry.

It was clear to all, including the Tollbooth Buggars, that Cocoser is not a native English speaker. He made a number of writing mistakes, none of which obscured his message, but did reveal that that he was not from our Anglophonic civilization. In short he was not one of us or at the very least, he was not in the same neighborhood with the Tollbooth Buggars.

Rather than making allowances for Cocoser shortcomings for which he could not avoid, the Tollbooth Buggars chose to spoof and ridicule this individual; picking on someone weaker than they.

Mr. W. Roger even tossing out a taunt to me. Mr. Roger's Neighborhood is not the same friendly hospitable community now that the Tollbooth Buggars have moved in.

[Dccpa]

We need to thank the Tollbooth Buggars for donating a classic example of our poor treatment of newcomers to the ISG forum. The Tollbooth Buggars emerged in their responses to Cocoser who recently came to ISG with an inquiry.

It was clear to all, including the Tollbooth Buggars, that Cocoser is not a native English speaker. He made a number of writing mistakes, none of which obscured his message, but did reveal that that he was not from our Anglophonic civilization. In short he was not one of us or at the very least, he was not in the same neighborhood with the Tollbooth Buggars.

Rather than making allowances for Cocoser shortcomings for which he could not avoid, the Tollbooth Buggars chose to spoof and ridicule this individual; picking on someone weaker than they.

Mr. W. Roger even tossing out a taunt to me. Mr. Roger's Neighborhood is not the same friendly hospitable community now that the Tollbooth Buggars have moved in."picking on someone weaker than they. ".

Et tu Brutus? You just insulted the person you were defending. Lack of English grammer skills does not make someone weak.

[WestCoast1]

I would be grateful if someone would share the contacts / coordinates of a trusted girl whom you can recommend.I would have you contact me in PM. I can share some ways to quickly score young beauty (no contact number needed).

[Pcpc1688]

Like in Thai, there are very different price you can spend on girl. BF a girl out of a gogo in Nana or Soi Cowboy or in P Burgos is way more expensive than getting a semipro or a freelancer around. In both case, The Philippines are cheaper than Thailand.

BTW what's really better in the Phils is the amount of freelancers or "good" girls available, even out of the sex spots. In Thai it is not so easy to know a girl if she is not somehow in the sex industry (even only for a night out in front of the Nana Hotel), in the Philippines any girl you meet around is a possible catch.

If you are into great, professional sex, Thai is the perfect place even if little bit more expensive than the Philippines. You know what you get, and most time you get great sex from a beautiful and skilled girl.

The Phils are more on the GFE side, with that little bit more adventure. Sometime even bad adventure, wasting long time with a girl with no score, but for me is part of the fun.Couldn't say it better, ANY girl is a possible frolic. Yesterday meet a Caregiver in Cebu. She was shy LOL. 15 mind later she was riding Cowboy and then Pearl Lipstick.

Pc out.

[Wicked Roger]

We need to thank the Tollbooth Buggars for donating a classic example of our poor treatment of newcomers to the ISG forum. The Tollbooth Buggars emerged in their responses to Cocoser who recently came to ISG with an inquiry.

It was clear to all, including the Tollbooth Buggars, that Cocoser is not a native English speaker. He made a number of writing mistakes, none of which obscured his message, but did reveal that that he was not from our Anglophonic civilization. In short he was not one of us or at the very least, he was not in the same neighborhood with the Tollbooth Buggars.

Rather than making allowances for Cocoser shortcomings for which he could not avoid, the Tollbooth Buggars chose to spoof and ridicule this individual; picking on someone weaker than they.

Mr. W. Roger even tossing out a taunt to me. Mr. Roger's Neighborhood is not the same friendly hospitable community now that the Tollbooth Buggars have moved in.But we all noticed Pomp that you have not helped Cocoser with any hints, tips etc just you criticise those who ask him to PM them.

So please contribute and share the info he needs so we can see or let us see the PM you send him?

People in glass houses etc or read Dccpa FR as was a good observation.

Even Westie asked him to PM and I know I did, did you?

[CallSign Papa]

It was clear to all, including the Tollbooth Buggars, that Cocoser is not a native English speaker. He made a number of writing mistakes, none of which obscured his message, but did reveal that that he was not from our Anglophonic civilization. In short he was not one of us or at the very least, he was not in the same neighborhood with the Tollbooth Buggars.I didn't give a crap about his language skills or his heritage. I gave a crap that he was "too busy" to bother reading the reports others had spent time, energy and money in contributing.

It takes a village.

And it takes a village idiot who things the rules don't apply to them to ruin it for everyone.

Anyway, Pomp is now on my ignore list and I look forward to not having to read anymore of his future missives.

[CallSign Papa]

I. Am. Shattered.

The one thing I never get enough of in Manila is sleep. Whilst everything comes at you in an abundance (beer / food / girls), whether I'm sleeping alone or with company I rarely make it past 6 hours sleep. Now admittedly this is all my own doing, and I expected this trip to be no different (and it wasn't) but at least I got to meet up with fellow ISG'er Horntoad, who I'm happy testify is a bloody good egg.

Thursday night we decided to go try out Royal (a nightclub in the Poblacion part of Makati) thinking quite reasonably that it should be relatively easy to snag a few FLs or maybe even some office girls on a night out. Sadly that wasn't the case, and arriving there we found it half empty (even at 1 am). We did have two lovely girls to chat to (one of which is a frequent denizen, one a fresh faced newbie) but after a quick drink decided that a stroll through the neon strip at Burgos would be a better idea.

First stop was Kojax, which for me always has the prettiest girls, including a few blondies, and things seemed pretty promising when we first arrived given the number of empty booths. We were soon chatting to some cute bikini clad girls (mine was tall, slim and elfish, Horntoad's was blonde and definitely more busty). Overall the quality wasn't as good as I've seen it over the last year, but we certainly weren't short of girls ready to join us. After a few drinks we decided to see if we could find a better selection and headed back downstairs.

We literally popped our heads into Bottoms but it was empty and looking quite forlorn, and we were soon in danger of chasing the party all the way down the street, but thankfully Plan b. came to the rescue. The atmosphere seemed good and we were almost immediately sat and ensconced in conversation with two very lovely girls. Given how dark it is there, I found it hard to tell how pretty they really were but from where I was sat, I couldn't have been happier. ROSANNE was 27, had two kids and the flattest, toned stomach I can remember fondling. She was also petite with long straight dark hair and a spanish look, I'm sure someone else on the board will know her better than I. We stayed there for the remainder of the evening, but neither Horntoad or I were fussed about taking a girl home (he had plans the next morning and I had work). As I recall, the BF for Plan b. was 3,500, and I was quoted 4 k for LT. I was tempted to come back another night and take her early, but never got the chance. Still, a fun night and great to meet a fellow board member and shoot the shit.

This trip I had made three lists for the girls I planned meeting, the P4 Ps, the FLs and the non P4 Ps. Friday dinner was with the latter, a very cute and relatively successful girl in her mid twenties working for a US consultancy firm. We had chatted up a storm on FB and she had already confessed a number of appealing fantasies. Dinner itself was lovely but far from being the carefree, uninhibited girl I was expecting, the night became all about what INAH looks for in a "soulmate" and that killed my urge to fuck her quicker than if she'd shown naked photos of her grandma. I have little to no problems lying to a girl to get her in to bed, but I knew this one would be trouble after. For those interested in a very nice restaurant to impress a date, Caruso in Legazpi Village can't be beat. After dinner I dropped her home in a taxi and took the car to Royal where it was much changed from the night before. Even at midnight it was busy and jumping. It didn't take me long to find two girls a little drunk and dancing together in a manner that suggested they'd happily lick each other dry. One of them was just how I like them, slim, petite, dark and with a hint of Ariana Grande.

After she happily used me as a grinding post on the dancefloor we headed back to my place (no price discussed) where she kindly let allowed me to take all of my work frustration out on her beautifully shaved, tiny pussy. For a short girl, she had hidden depths in that department. I woke up hungover and tired and totally not in the mood for a morning session but my feelings were considered irrelevant and it took MAE all of 90 seconds with her tongue before we were at it again. Clearly she was as dizzy in the head as me, because she tried to climb on top and start banging before the rubber was on, I was tempted but luckily had one very close to hand. She left mid-morning and seemed happy with the 3 k "taxi money" I put in her bag.

Saturday afternoon I had a college girl pre-planned. MONICA was 22, one kid but insisted she'd only had once boyfriend since the father of her 5 year old split (around the same time she mentioned she might be pregnant). Monica was one of those "I'm innocent but have fantasies I want to try" types. The type I love, even if 80% of them aren't nearly as innocent as they claim. The way she rode me and the moves she had make it almost impossible for her story to be believed, but we both enjoyed the afternoon nonetheless. No money changed hands and she got touchy when I tentatively broached the subject but I brought her some specific gifts she'd requested from Singapore so we both ended up happy.

Saturday night was the main event. JESSICA was from Mindanao and had just returned to Manila from 2 years in KL. Her instagram photos are a teenage boy's wet dream, and I half expected her to cancel our dinner. I knew through our previous conversations that it was highly unlikely I'd seal the deal on the first night but had absolutely no problems just spending time with her (our Viber video calls had confirmed she was as hot as her photos). When she showed up in a stunning white dressed that showed up both her curves and her tanned skin, my jaw hit the floor.

To be continued.

[Pcpc1688]

In Makati in the shit hole they call Manila LOL.

RAIN RAIN and more rain ughhh.

Day 1.

Had one that Long Time recommended, nice enough but skills and too skinny like he said. Also not a fresh pussy for such a young time, I told her to take care of the money box which was also extremely dry for a girl her age. Would not repeat.

Day 2.

Badoo boys has been a gold mine recently for me both here and Cebu. I highly suggest it.

Got a ok girl and as always, Can I bring a friend? Sure as friend was very hot. Tall like 5"6 and solid bod. 3 some began after all showers and behold no fishy smell from either Yay. BBBJ alternating while other was sucking the balls. Ahhh heaven.

Got tired after1 pop and went to sleep. Work up 3 hrs later caressing both in my arms although #1 wasn't feeling well. #2 (the hot one) was good though. We began DFK and before you know it I was in that sweet pussy again while #1 slept or pretended too. I dunno how as I was pounding #2 hard and bed was rocking hehe.

Finished up and after clean up they were gone. 3150 p inc taxi and done.

Day 3.

Girl from Laguna also from Badoo coming. More to cum.

PC out.

[CallSign Papa]

Met up with my white clad beauty for a lovely dinner, and everything went pretty damn well so afterwards I was all set to invite her for a nightcap at my place (which I think she would have accepted) but her phone rings, and before I know it we're off to valkyrie in BGC. I really do recommend Valkyrie for anyone under 40, it's virtually impossible not to come away with something young and pretty if you're able to smile and string a few sentences together.

Somehow we ended up back at her condo tucking into more vodka, and enjoying a drunken make-out session on the sofa. The next thing I know, we're both being woken up (still on the sofa) by Jessica's 17 year old sister. Thankfully my date and I were both still dressed, but definitely a little befuddled and embarrassed. We made plans to meet that evening and I beat a hasty retreat and spent a few more hours in bed recovering.

I had previously gotten a contact from a fellow board member related to a girl who was keen on FFM threesomes and had arranged to see her Sunday afternoon. Previous to her arrival, I had asked ANNE to provide a photo of the partner she was going to bring and when she did we agreed 3 k each, and that the girls would go to town on each other. When they finally arrived at the door I was more than a little pissed that the girl with her was not the one in the photo (who was slim and petite), but rather seemed to resemble a female hippopotamus. Seriously not something I could consider. I took Anne into the bedroom and very clearly explained how pissed I was and waved aside her flakey excuse as to why she was here in my condo with a marine dwelling mammal.

We finally agreed that her friend would stay on the sofa whilst I would spend some time with Anne and give her 4 k, which she could split with the other girl however she wished. The mistake I made was not kicking them straight out when they arrived. Anyway, more surreality was about to befall me. Anne and I retreat to the bedroom, and she really does have a lovely tanned, petite figure, with quite a pretty little hairless pussy. We were actually having a rather lovely time and Anne certainly sounded like she was enjoying myself as much as me. Unfortunately, her cries of delight had alerted her friend that something exciting was going down and I then noticed the bed wobble as her friend joined us in the room licking her lips and looking eager to join in! There was just no fucking way, and I was very forceful in my language as to how quickly her friend should vacate the room.

But now I felt guilty and freaked out and that really was the end of the session because I just wanted them gone (I gave 3 k in the end). Luckily for me, my address book is fully stocked and it was little over and hour later that CHRISTINE knocked on my door. She's just turned 21, but is no stranger to pleasing a guy. What I appreciate about her most is that physically she takes very good care of herself. Not an inch of fat, but also, no weird hairs on the nipples, always a pristinely manicured lawn and her legs are golden and smooth. Surprisingly I was able to function just fine despite my recent shock and a lovely time was had by both of us. Probably more so me, but she left with 2. 5 k for 90 minutes work and an armful of swiss chocolate.

Later that evening Jessica and I decided on the movies, IT was playing, (a good excuse to have her cuddle up close) and then she asked if her sister could join us. I was just about to let my exasperation show when she let me know that her sister would be put in a cab after and we could continue the night alone. The film was damn suspenseful and more than a little scary and did the job of getting her close to me perfectly. Afterwards as advertised we went back to my place whilst her sister went home.

I've never gone more than 2 date without sealing the deal, irrespective of how hot they were, and I was pleased when we ended up naked on the sofa before our first glass of wine was finished. She was worth the wait. Definitely a keeper.

[Member #4558]

I really do recommend Valkyrie for anyone under 40, it's virtually impossible not to come away with something young and pretty if you're able to smile and string a few sentences together.

I had previously gotten a contact from a fellow board member related to a girl who was keen on FFM threesomes and had arranged to see her Sunday afternoon. When they finally arrived at the door I was more than a little pissed that the girl with her was not the one in the photo (who was slim and petite), but rather seemed to resemble a female hippopotamus.

no weird hairs on the nipples, always a pristinely manicured lawn and her legs are golden and smooth. Surprisingly I was able to function just fine despite my recent shock and a lovely time was had by both of us. Probably more so me, but she left with 2. 5 k for 90 minutes work and an armful of swiss chocolate.3 very chuckable observations. First I do spend some time at the Valk and like you, if I don't have a bring in girl, I always leave with one. I am early 40ies myself but being blessed with younger looks and a brain telling me I am still early twenty something really helps. Mechanisms in clubs like Valkyrie works almost like in any other western nightclub. I am sure there are hookers present but non of mine have stood out as one so far. Must be my flirtatious ways (and VIP spendings) I guess. I always invite a few female friends over to help me finish my vodkas (icebreaker). Then I can pick from there.

Worst case scenario, also doing the hippo routine, almost same approach. Invited girl over to my Makati hide out. Girl asking if she could bring a friend and sends me pic of her. Great looking gal. Hell yes, I was smelling a FMF session, bring her on. Arrives with ms fatty mountain and I almost broke down and cried my crokotears (real in this case). What happens next after my inside riot had eased away was that I took ms pretty and boinked her well. Wouldn't you know some dirty minds arrived and I suddenly felt the urge to boink her fatty friend. So I did. It was the outmost disgusting experience ever viewing back on it. But there and then it felt nice. Normally my dick runs into hiding by just sensing a girl has a stretch but with the correct amount of vodkas and blue pills he kept his strength.

Regarding the nipple hair I thought I was able to find a pic stating exactly what you mean but I have a look later and see if I can recover it from my girlie pic galleries.

[Chocha Monger]

I had previously gotten a contact from a fellow board member related to a girl who was keen on FFM threesomes and had arranged to see her Sunday afternoon. Previous to her arrival, I had asked ANNE to provide a photo of the partner she was going to bring and when she did we agreed 3 k each, and that the girls would go to town on each other. When they finally arrived at the door I was more than a little pissed that the girl with her was not the one in the photo (who was slim and petite), but rather seemed to resemble a female hippopotamus. Seriously not something I could consider. I took Anne into the bedroom and very clearly explained how pissed I was and waved aside her flakey excuse as to why she was here in my condo with a marine dwelling mammal.The first mistake you made was trusting Anne. In the Philippines, trust should never be given easily, even for referrals from other mongers. Anne obviously knew that you wanted a specific type of girl as you asked to see photos of her partner before agreeing to meet for a fuck session. She willingly deceived you and expected you to suck it up and fuck that hippopotamus she ambushed you with at the previously agreed price. However, had you met them downstairs in the lobby you could have made the hungry hippo wait there or dispatched her to the nearest Jollibee with just enough to purchase the Chickenjoy Supreme platter. Meeting them downstairs would have also made the option of cancelling the session less risky, and you were well within your rights to do so given Anne's little bait and switch scheme.


We finally agreed that her friend would stay on the sofa whilst I would spend some time with Anne and give her 4 k, which she could split with the other girl however she wished. The mistake I made was not kicking them straight out when they arrived. Anyway, more surreality was about to befall me. Anne and I retreat to the bedroom, and she really does have a lovely tanned, petite figure, with quite a pretty little hairless pussy. We were actually having a rather lovely time and Anne certainly sounded like she was enjoying myself as much as me. Unfortunately, her cries of delight had alerted her friend that something exciting was going down and I then noticed the bed wobble as her friend joined us in the room licking her lips and looking eager to join in! There was just no fucking way, and I was very forceful in my language as to how quickly her friend should vacate the room.Poor fella! There you are furiously ramming your tool into Anne's black-lipped abalone as she shrieks like a seagull. You are in the pleasure zone. Suddenly, the mattress collapses and, your prick still impaled in Anne's abalone, you turn to lock eyes with a ravenous lip-licking dugong wanting a piece of the action. The fright must have wilted you like a flower!

Excellent report and a great reminder to all to be careful when inviting new talent to their lair. It shows the importance of monger intuition. Sometimes when a rendezvous starts out with an obviously fraudulent bill of goods, it is best to cancel the engagement instead of trying to salvage it and risk falling deeper down the rabbit hole.

[Member #4566]

Pomp is now on my ignore list and I look forward to not having to read anymore of his future missives.Getting better all the time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y925oc8bnOs

[CallSign Papa]

The first mistake you made was trusting Anne. It shows the importance of monger intuition. Sometimes when a rendezvous starts out with an obviously fraudulent bill of goods, it is best to cancel the engagement instead of trying to salvage it and risk falling deeper down the rabbit hole.You are 100% correct CM. Whilst one should always leave an element of flexibility to plans, being adaptable should really only apply to when things work out better than you hoped, not worse.

One more lesson learned.

I make mistake's so other's don't have to.

[D Cups]

Now this is some excellent writing. You really do have a flair for words, CM. Too funny.


There you are furiously ramming your tool into Anne's black-lipped abalone as she shrieks like a seagull. You are in the pleasure zone. Suddenly, the mattress collapses and, your prick still impaled in Anne's abalone, you turn to lock eyes with a ravenous lip-licking dugong wanting a piece of the action. The fright must have wilted you like a flower!

Excellent report and a great reminder to all to be careful when inviting new talent to their lair. It shows the importance of monger intuition. Sometimes when a rendezvous starts out with an obviously fraudulent bill of goods, it is best to cancel the engagement instead of trying to salvage it and risk falling deeper down the rabbit hole.

[Cheema]

I am planning a trip to manila and Boracay in mid January. I want to know what will be the scene in mid January will it be normal or still girls will be on new year holiday. Please guide.

[CompletFun]

Is Picasso Boutique Serviced Residences a girl friendly hotel or there any issues taking a bar girl for a night.

[BrainDrain]

I am planning a trip to manila and Boracay in mid January. I want to know what will be the scene in mid January will it be normal or still girls will be on new year holiday. Please guide.No way to answer. I can assure you it will be better than where ever you are living.

[Cheema]

No way to answer. I can assure you it will be better than where ever you are living.I think you didn't understand my question, as Philippine is a catholic country, I want till what date of January new year festivities and holidays are over and things are back to normal so that I can arrive in manila on those dates.

[Member #4611]

Is Picasso Boutique Serviced Residences a girl friendly hotel or there any issues taking a bar girl for a night.Have not had any problems over last 2-3 years. They keep the girls ID if she enters on her own but f she is with you they seem not to. They sometimes ask if someone will be joining when you on check in. Book for two anyway.

FK.

[Crazy4Thai]

Is Picasso Boutique Serviced Residences a girl friendly hotel or there any issues taking a bar girl for a night.I was there 6 months ago and there were no issues. Possibly just a hint of "attitude" as I brought the girl in. They took her ID and checked with me when she left.

[Soapy Smith]

I think you didn't understand my question, as Philippine is a catholic country, I want till what date of January new year festivities and holidays are over and things are back to normal so that I can arrive in manila on those dates.Drought of girls returning to the provinces does not last until mid January. Regarding Boracay, it is never a comparatively good place to find freelancers. See Ollie69's recent report in Other Areas and many other reports about Boracay. BD's point is that the Philippines probably always has many, many more available women than wherever you are now.

[CallSign Papa]

D's point is that the Philippines probably always has many, many more available women than wherever you are now.He knows this because the last time he was on this board asking questions about Manila and Makati. He has more than enough information to have a decent trip.

[Cheema]

He knows this because the last time he was on this board asking questions about Manila and Makati. He has more than enough information to have a decent trip.Yes I got a lot of information few months ago, now I was confused when to visit, I just wanted to know that things are back to normal in mid January after new year holidays.

[Kabul Guy]

Yes I got a lot of information few months ago, now I was confused when to visit, I just wanted to know that things are back to normal in mid January after new year holidays.Things will be back to normal very soon after the New Year. It is Christmas that is the biggest holiday time with New Year being a party, not a bad time to monger but a little more costly is all.

[Dg8787]

I think you didn't understand my question, as Philippine is a catholic country, I want till what date of January new year festivities and holidays are over and things are back to normal so that I can arrive in manila on those dates.There is never a lack of availability even if you look like Shrek.

[Mogwai]

There is never a lack of availability even if you look like Shrek.Do you speak from your own experience?

[CompletFun]

Friends any reviews on this website have any one used them.

http://manilaescorts.ph

[Dg8787]

Do you speak from your own experience?Of course I do. Many experiences every time I go out looking.

[CallSign Papa]

Friends any reviews on this website have any one used them.

http://manilaescorts.phI've never used the site but I've been with a few of the girls in the gallery. Most of them I got from Royal (club in Makati) and they were a damn site cheaper than the prices quoted on the website. One is a regular and were I a cheap charlie I could get away with paying her in chocolate (but I don't).

If you're lazy and don't want to go hunt it's an ok but pricey option (but where's the fun in that?). Also, be aware that Pinays scrub up nicely when being professionally photographed, they know how to get their best angles. What might look like good value in a photo might look seriously lacklustre in the flesh.

[BrainDrain]

I know a few years ago lots of one Sydney club were spotted in bars along Burgos.

Just wondering if anyone has seen any football club trips landing into Philippines this week? And hitting up the party scene.

BD.

[Mogwai]

I know a few years ago lots of one Sydney club were spotted in bars along Burgos.
Just wondering if anyone has seen any football club trips landing into Philippines this week? And hitting up the party scene.
BD.Why do you ask? Do you want to bang a football player? LOL.

[Wicked Roger]

While not the prettiest this one is surely one of the kinkiest and likes anal, threesomes etc. Visiting from the provinces as has to be Manila for 2 days next week (end of the week) and would love to meet a few friends if anyone likes this flavor. Loves heels and lingerie also and did shag my dick raw in a week of very naughty stuff last year LOL.

PM me and please don't be a manager etc.

Posted a few more photos in the PG also.

[Chocha Monger]

While not the prettiest this one is surely one of the kinkiest and likes anal, threesomes etc. Visiting from the provinces as has to be Manila for 2 days next week (end of the week) and would love to meet a few friends if anyone likes this flavor. Loves heels and lingerie also and did shag my dick raw in a week of very naughty stuff last year LOL.

PM me and please don't be a manager etc.

Posted a few more photos in the PG also.The wine de-corker up the asshole is a nice touch. A 3-holes who does threesomes is certainly a treasure. Is she a certified submissive for BDSM? Most importantly, does she like gangbangs or willing to try?

[Wicked Roger]

The wine de-corker up the asshole is a nice touch. A 3-holes who does threesomes is certainly a treasure. Is she a certified submissive for BDSM? Most importantly, does she like gangbangs or willing to try?Check your PMs Chocha for details but 'yes' would answer that simply.

[Ebauche]

There is never a lack of availability even if you look like Shrek.If I can pull willing lovelies, anyone can. I'd say either Shrek or Quasimodo would be more guapo than me.

[Member #4643]

I believe this hotel is really in Makati City, and not Manila (despite the name). It is located in Ayala Center, 5-10 minutes from the Havana Cafe (freelancers) in the Greenbelt mall. If you are into FLs, things rapidly change at the bars and discos, except for Havana Cafe which has remained a constant for me over the last 5 years. As far as reading the forum goes, there is a lot of advice about the various red light districts like Burgos (in Makati) and EDSA complex in Manila (where I have never been). You should specifically read up on LA Cafe, which has its admirers and detractors (I have also never been there). It is said that LAC always has available girls, but many of them are either ugly or crazy.

While not for everyone, I almost exclusively do Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com for finding girls. I usually tell the girls I am here on work, looking for an enjoyable night out and that while I am not specifically looking for a LTR, I return to Manila frequently and it is not impossible. About 1/2 of the girls will say goodbye at that point, but the many of the others will have sex on the first date. There is an occasional outlyer, but I have never had a girl come to my room who did not have sex with me. So after I tell them I am not looking for an LTR, I invite them to my hotel for a glass of wine in my room. The smaller subset of girls who agree to come to my room are the ones who will have sex on the first date. The girls on DIA are less likely to say yes than the ones on pinalove, but it is hard not to have a half a dozen phone numbers of girls who are willing to have sex in about an hour of chatting. There was a terrific recent post on the ISG about how to steer one's way through the dating sites by Mango King.

Finally, there are lots of streetwalkers and massage girls on Burgos. The massage girls will never agree to anything but a massage if you go back with them to the massage parlor. But, many of them will agree to come to your hotel for the massage, where full service is on the menu. There are lots of street girls on Burgos Street. A few are decent looking but some are jail bait (and, if you are not careful, you may actually get set up for blackmail). Also, I once picked up a "girl" on Burgos who admitted to me (thankfully before we got going) that she was trans. Lots of the girls at Havana Cafe, especially the ones on the perimeters, are transgender too. I think it is worth asking a street girl if she has a penis before bringing her back to your hotel or else you might have an unpleasant surprise.

That is enough information to get you through a week in Makati / Manila!

[BobLou]

Thanks for the nice report.

Please post the link of report by mango king.


I believe this hotel is really in Makati City, and not Manila (despite the name). It is located in Ayala Center, 5-10 minutes from the Havana Cafe (freelancers) in the Greenbelt mall. If you are into FLs, things rapidly change at the bars and discos, except for Havana Cafe which has remained a constant for me over the last 5 years. As far as reading the forum goes, there is a lot of advice about the various red light districts like Burgos (in Makati) and EDSA complex in Manila (where I have never been). You should specifically read up on LA Cafe, which has its admirers and detractors (I have also never been there). It is said that LAC always has available girls, but many of them are either ugly or crazy.

While not for everyone, I almost exclusively do Date in Asia (DIA) and pinalove.com for finding girls. I usually tell the girls I am here on work, looking for an enjoyable night out and that while I am not specifically looking for a LTR, I return to Manila frequently and it is not impossible. About 1/2 of the girls will say goodbye at that point, but the many of the others will have sex on the first date. There is an occasional outlyer, but I have never had a girl come to my room who did not have sex with me. So after I tell them I am not looking for an LTR, I invite them to my hotel for a glass of wine in my room. The smaller subset of girls who agree to come to my room are the ones who will have sex on the first date. The girls on DIA are less likely to say yes than the ones on pinalove, but it is hard not to have a half a dozen phone numbers of girls who are willing to have sex in about an hour of chatting. There was a terrific recent post on the ISG about how to steer one's way through the dating sites by Mango King.

[Val979]

Hello gents,

I will be in Makati on Tuesday staying at the Royal Bellagio. Just wondering if there is any recent changes a monger should be aware of?

[Crazy4Thai]

I arrived about noon on Sunday after about 30 hours total travel and layovers from the US. I'm in Makati now at the Makati Riverside Inn. I chose it more for it's high ratings than it's low price. I am not disappointed as it is clean and well run. If you need a lift do not come here. I can walk to Burgos action in 15 minutes at most. Or taxi for 50 pesos. Sunday night I went out on the hunt. I had numerous "massage sir" offers during my walk and no one caught my eye.

Right after arriving Burgos "Janet" did catch my eye as her smile and attitude seemed genuine with her pretty face and I did accept her card with her number on the back. I went into Bottoms first. By the time I got my drink I realized that the Asian customer 2 tables away was smoking. Sigh. I drank up and paid up as the lineup was underwhelming too. As I left the club Janet intercepted me and compared to what I had just seen, she seemed like a good choice. She remained friendly and smiling even as I steered the conversation to sexy massage. We agreed in principle and she accepted my offer to eat first. Janet was great fun and we joked and teased in the restaurant. When I showed her my digital pic of a rim job, she turned away laughing, saying OMG and crossed herself. I was quite entertained by her reaction. It was clearly not a "yes" but I did not feel so judged. When time to go, she insisted that we could walk to my hotel. Pretty unusual. This part did not go so well as I thought I saw a short cut. We wandered awhile and then got a taxi to get us there. In the room she did not disappoint and I got a good GFE but not a PSE. I plan to repeat. 2,500 + taxi money. I think the price is on the high side but not sure. I was happy.

Monday night I repeated my travels and went specifically to Kojax hoping to repeat a great experience I had there last April. Unfortunately I cannot dredge up her name but spoke with the mama about the girl who was lactating. Not my thing, it's just that she was. Anyway, she is gone. The seating in there really sucked. They have maybe 3 or 4 tables facing the stage and perhaps 20 facing the back of the stage. The front was already full I ended up in the back with a view of backsides and bright lights. I think there must have been 25 girls in the lineup and a good many were sexy and attractive form what I could tell with those lights in my eyes. (WHAT kind of a business plan is that anyway? After awhile I invited a spinner named Tara to sit with me. She was already sitting nearby. She was a dream come true in the bar. 90 pounds of beauty showing great breasts a nice tummy, pretty, happy, talkative, I was thinking she is a 9. I bought her 2 drinks and myself 2 before I paid up including the BF. It came to 4000 and small change and I knew that Tara wanted 3000 for 1 hour. We took a taxi. In the room she was one of the worst experiences that I have had. She wanted to be on her phone, she no longer seemed friendly, she was rushing me even though an hour is an ok timeframe for me. Noticing this major change I asked her if she would like to leave with 500 in hand. She replied that I agreed to 3000 and I replied that she promised that she is "wild" and "be careful" in a very charming way in the bar. We got down to it and when her clothes came off her tits were down to there and her ass was a road map of stretch marks. She could have passed for 21 in the bar. She said she was 25. She did not enjoy her work outside of the bar and was a starfish in the room. We were done in about 30 minutes and I gently refused her offer to take her phone number. I spent nearly 3 times as much on the gogo girl as the I did on the masseuse. Both were expert marketeers and the masseuse really delivered. I do have her number and she will reduce the rate to 2000 if I get her before her work hours of 6 PM to 4 AM.

[CallSign Papa]

"Janet" did catch my eye as her smile and attitude seemed genuine with her pretty face Great report, and a very good example of how tricky it can be finding the right chemistry with the right girl.

In my experience, the girls I've met outside of bars where I felt we had good chemistry have virtually always translated into dynamite sessions. In a bar, where the lights and the drinks favour the girl, it's a little easier to think you have chemistry, which may not translate once the uglies commence to bumping. Don't feel bad C4 T, we've all taken duds from Burgos.

As an aside, I think 2500 for a massage girl, if she's really impressed is an ok price. Keep the reports coming, I'm back next week after a two month hiatus and hope to be able to contribute again.

[IGoHomeNow]

I arrived from AC Tuesday afternoon and was ready to explore P Burgos.

I walked north to what looked like the end of the bars and started going into them.

The first was on the east side of road and had 3 stages. Each song would have one lady rotate off and one on. I thought that was a great way to see all the talent. One of them was about the best looking WG I have seen. Most the rest were pretty nice as well. There seemed a bit of pressure to keep buying drinks, but nothing terrible. Not very many customers and maybe 15 ladies. I don't know BF prices, but I assume similar to what I was told in other places in the area.

The next 2 or 3 places I went into were very unpleasant. I sat down and about 5-7 girls surrounded me and were touching me all over. That is, of course, very pleasant, but they will expect something like LDs in return. I realized the deal, but I was not really prepared for the proper way to handle it. I did manage to buy one LD and shoo the others away. My concern is that I am not quite sure how to shoo them away with tact. I left the first of these after some time talking to the woman I bought a drink for.

The next 2 places were much the same, though not quite so hard-core. I eventually decided to speak into the ear of one of the ladies and asked her to tell everyone to leave. This seemed to work OK in terms of not being an ass while still controlling the situation in a way that suited my wishes.

But even so, it was all quite stressful.

I did manage to find a couple more places that were much less intense. I know one of them was "Plan B", but I was not keen on their talent, so I left and went to another place.

It was also pretty mellow and I decided to BF a girl. I know the price there is sky high compared to others, but I was not totally sober. All seemed well. I paid the BF and my tab. I was low on pesos but the lady was cool with taking dollars. But then the mamasan, who had done absolutely nothing, asks me for a tip. I was not pleased and I am sure part of that was because of the BS from the other clubs. I told her no and told her I just spent a lot of money. I know I raised my voice and I know that is not so cool here in PI, but it cannot be undone now. (though to be fair the music is so loud that one has to be loud to be heard at all. I really hate getting hustled, especially when I have been chill and am already spending money. I also hate the loud disco music. It makes talking more or less impossible, especially when the lady has so-so English with a heavy accent. I am curious if anybody knows why these places play the music so loud. I cannot figure out how this can improve their profit, but it is easy for me to see how it can hutr.

I have not seen other FRs with any mention of extreme hustling. I am wondering if the smoking ban in conjunction with the Tuesday night made things really slow. Perhaps these places are getting desperate. I have read that Filipinos tend raise prices based on their need, not supply and demand. But seriously. If this becomes the norm, I cannot imagine these places, or the ladies, making enough money to get by.

I will say the quality of the women was quite good and I saw 3-4 solid 9's and the 10 in the first club. So I am OK with a higher price, but I mot OK with the nonsense. I may go back this weekend, but I won't go back during slow times I was just in AC and despite the difference in looks, I prefer it to Burgos.

I also went to LA Cafe the next night. I was pleasantly surprised with the talent, but no stunner. But please understand that my taste in women is probably not standard and so if you like young spinners, you will probably be disappointed with LA Cafe On the cab ride to the mall, we passed some clubs with lots of girls outside. It looked like all Filipino crowd, or at least not Caucasian. My driver asked if I wanted to partake, but I was not keen on jumping into the deep end. This was South of LA Cafe and I don't think these places were listed on the two boards I read. I suspect both good talent and cheap, but totally.

[CallSign Papa]

I am wondering if the smoking ban in conjunction with the Tuesday night made things really slow. Perhaps these places are getting desperate. I have read that Filipinos tend raise prices based on their need, not supply and demand. But seriously. If this becomes the norm, I cannot imagine these places, or the ladies, making enough money to get by.It's that good ol' Phil attitude of "if business is slow, we're going to squeeze the few customers for twice as much". Same as it ever was.

Generally I'm polite, friendly and smiley, so when they see my "don't even try that shit" face, it's usually enough for them to lay off. If not, I just pay up and move to the next bar.

[FreebieFan]

But then the mamasan, who had done absolutely nothing, asks me for a tip. I was not pleased and I am sure part of that was because of the BS from the other clubs. .Was in a van coming back from pueto galera the other day. There was a driver and another Filipino guy sitting next to him. The guy gets out halfway. Turns to all of us with a big toothy grin and says " tip for me ". I think he got a few bemused looks given that he had done less than nothing to deserve it.

A guy carried my gfs bag some 50 metres. I would have carried it myself but I had two bags already to carry. Gave him P20. He stood there staring and said Sir I DESERVE more. I suggested that was sufficient. Eventually he left.

Taxi driver in the rain held the door open for me then refused to go where I wanted. I got out the taxi and he said. " What about a tip ".

Its Christmas season (sort of) and the hands are coming out.

[SaltyPete]

Was in a van coming back from pueto galera the other day. There was a driver and another Filipino guy sitting next to him. The guy gets out halfway. Turns to all of us with a big toothy grin and says " tip for me ". I think he got a few bemused looks given that he had done less than nothing to deserve it.

A guy carried my gfs bag some 50 metres. I would have carried it myself but I had two bags already to carry. Gave him P20. He stood there staring and said Sir I DESERVE more. I suggested that was sufficient. Eventually he left.

Taxi driver in the rain held the door open for me then refused to go where I wanted. I got out the taxi and he said. " What about a tip ".

Its Christmas season (sort of) and the hands are coming out.Christmas season apparently begins for the Malls at the end of August. I think the logic is "People spend more during Christmas season so we will have Christmas season year-round" or something like that.

I dislike the "cling-ONS" (I think of them as parasites) that thrive off our hobby, from the bathroom guy that hands me a towel, to the guy that opens a taxi door for me (tip, sir) to the taxi parked outside that charges 300 php for a 50 php ride, to the massage ladies trying to give me a crappy back rub in the bar, to the Mamasan wanting a tip for being alive. It is all pocket change for me (which I don't always have on hand) and I play along but still, I dislike the Klingons.

IGoHomeNow, the bars on Burgos Street are always empty, there is no busy time. Same for EDSA. A tip. Don't make eye contact with a girl unless you want to buy her a drink. I always tell the Mamasan or waitress who pressures me that I am just looking and having a drink tonight, have to meet a friend soon, and they leave me alone. I'm just glad I am not Japanese or Korean, for whom they get all the girls lined up as soon as the customer walks in. I prefer to have a drink and observe all the girls for awhile before I buy one a drink. It is the thrill of the chase.

[Pcpc1688]

Was in a van coming back from pueto galera the other day. There was a driver and another Filipino guy sitting next to him. The guy gets out halfway. Turns to all of us with a big toothy grin and says " tip for me ". I think he got a few bemused looks given that he had done less than nothing to deserve it.

A guy carried my gfs bag some 50 metres. I would have carried it myself but I had two bags already to carry. Gave him P20. He stood there staring and said Sir I DESERVE more. I suggested that was sufficient. Eventually he left.

Taxi driver in the rain held the door open for me then refused to go where I wanted. I got out the taxi and he said. " What about a tip ".

Its Christmas season (sort of) and the hands are coming out.When I arrive, I get usually about 500 p in 20's. 20's are easy to hand out for Uber drivers, room attendants, and anyone else that does a service related job. At the end of the trip I always seen to run out of 20's LOL. I always try to change another 200 p upon departure knowing that it will be needed upon return to the Happy Land where Pinay Pussy reigns Supreme.

Usually Uber drivers are thrilled they got a tip and always say thank you kindly. I haven't seen a person not happy about getting any kind of tip but I don't wear my Santa Claus suit out everyday either haha. One of my Favs just left yesterday. 3 k whole night plus breakfast in room. Shag after and before of course and real GFE. I am trying to teach her PSE but alas not too much too quick for our little Pinays can only absorb so much on a 24 HR period hahah.

JMHO,

PC out.

[Dion Cassius]

I was in the Philippines last month and it is about time I share my experience.

First, the ride from the airport to the Hotel gave me a glimpse of Manila's traffic: at one point I considered finishing on foot to arrive faster.

My hotel was pretty good: I chose City Garden Grand Hotel because of its location and because of the reviews. I was not disappointed.

For my arrival I decided to play it lazy. I contacted Manila Courtesans for a room delivery. The girl came 15 mn early. Her name is Mika. Although she looks a bit different from the pictures (photoshop) this was the same girl. Young (22), cute and slim. Her English is very good as she has lived in the UK. Good conversation but I was eager to know her more intimately. So I asked her to sit on my lap and we started kissing, touching. This felt like a real GF experience and her BBJ skills were excellent: very smooth. I was very satisfied with my choice and it is very competitively priced compered to the girls from the bars in Burgos.

The next day, I tried Plan be. First impression; the atmosphere is very different from the bars in Thailand. The girls are just waiting, some looking bored. Not great. I signaled the best looking cutie to come over but she ignores me. Ok then, let's move to the second cutest then and this one comes to sit next to me with a big smile. That's much better! After the lady drink and some fooling around I barfined her, and she was nearly as good as "Mika".

For my last night in Makati, I started with dinner at Cafe Cubana on Burgos. I am halfway through my pizza when a cute girl asks permission to sit at my table. She seems to have already drunk but she's got a nice pair of boobs (unfortunately enhanced). I am seriously considering taking her back to my room when the shadow of a doubt stopped me. I asked her if she was a woman. She wasn't! Despite a small hands and small wrists. I paid the bill and I paid her / him a drink and left for Kojax.

The bar was nearly empty and I decided to have some fun and took three girls at my table. One of them was apparently a "cherry" girl and was very shy (but very cute). I ended up barfining the least shy of the group. But the sex was average: covered BJ (later she she would allow some bare back BJ).

All in all, I think Burgos is a bit overpriced (especially compared to Angeles I went to the following day). Manila Courtesans was a pleasant surprise.

[Dion Cassius]

I can not reply to your PM, your inbox seems to be full.

[WestCoast1]

I can not reply to your PM, your inbox seems to be full.DC: Cleared, thanks.

[RengadeMaster]

OK so my first time ever in Philippines, arrived in the evening and was met by my seeking arrangement sub, although she was an hour late meeting me she deffo made up for it once we arrived at the hotel. .

I stayed at the A venue in Makati, very good value, nice clean spacious room, great AC, everything nearby and a short hop to Murgos.

My SA date stayed for 2 days and being a very obedient submissive she catered for all my needs, great fun and great company, went to royal club on one night, lively joint opposite my hotel, lots of eye candy and I'm sure if I wasn't with my date then I would of left with some arm candy. .

When my date left on the second evening I headed up to Murgos to check out the "scene".

Sat in Cubana for a few beers, got approached by a nice cutie but she seemed a bit drunk so wasn't really interested, brought her a drink and eventually she turned her attentions to another guy sat alone at the bar, I left and back to the hotel for a night alone.

Last day in Makati I went back to Burgos around 5 pm, again Cubana, this time I sat outside, caught the eye of a young cutie with her friend walking up and down Burgos, hanging around across the street then on the corner, they both somehow looked out of place to me, well dressed no flesh on show etc but the slim cutie had my attention.

Eventually I get them to come and sit down and join me at my table, 30 minutes later there both in my hotel room.

I had agreed to let the cutie bring her friend to my hotel as she was slightly nervous about being alone, so no problem for me as I only had good intentions, so on with the TV for her friend and a drink and I take this lovely cutie into my room, I was thinking due to her being nervous that this might not turn out to be a good punt, only cost me 2 k so not the end of the world if it went sour.

To my surprise this little sweetie got right into the swing of things after about 10 minutes of foreplay, multiple climaxes, great BBBJ and a terrific shagging session in multiple positions, told me they were in Makati looking for non sexual work and had no money for the 2 HR trip south to home, which might explain why I thought they looked out of place, who knows but I had a great time with her,2 hrs later I walked them downstairs and sent them on there way, couldn't actually believe my luck at what had just happened, anyway it gets better.

Decided to fire up the wechat app as I had heard there are great finds on there and indeed that was correct.

Around 10 pm after getting bombarded with msgs I receive a message from Nina, super cute 27 yr old in need of a massage, agree to meet next to the royal club in 30 minutes.

I'm now in my room joined by Nina, 5 minutes later she's naked on the bed and I'm massaging her, lovely BBBJ and then fucking in all manner of positions, was smashing her from behind and giggling to myself, couldn't believe in the space of 6 hrs I've nailed two of the cutest chicks I've ever fucked, only in manila.

Nina left and I slipped some money into her bag unnoticed by Nina, she never asked for a penny from the initial messaging to leaving, had a lovely chat with her as well before she left, up early the next morning and onto my next destination.

Really big positive experience for my first time in manila.

[Charm City Dave]

My SA date stayed for 2 days and being a very obedient submissive she catered for all my needs, great fun and great company, went to royal club on one night, lively joint opposite my hotel, lots of eye candy and I'm sure if I wasn't with my date then I would of left with some arm candy. .

Just curious, what did you pay that SA girl for two days? Was she a pro?

[RengadeMaster]

Just curious, what did you pay that SA girl for two days? Was she a pro?Hey CCD,

8 k 24 hrs depending on you're negotiating skills has a job and SA is her kink sideline.

More info PM me.

[WestCoast1]

I'm now in my room joined by Nina, 5 minutes later she's naked on the bed and I'm massaging her, lovely BBBJ and then fucking in all manner of positions, was smashing her from behind and giggling to myself, couldn't believe in the space of 6 hrs I've nailed two of the cutest chicks I've ever fucked, only in manila.

Nina left and I slipped some money into her bag unnoticed by Nina, she never asked for a penny from the initial messaging to leaving, had a lovely chat with her as well before she left, up early the next morning and onto my next destination.

Really big positive experience for my first time in manila.RM: Great early Phils effort. Newbs take note of the detail.

[El Ted]

Has anybody tried Abacca Spa? I see they have locations in both Makati and Pasay. They advertise as a spa with lingam massage, which I guess translates into a mediocre massage and a happy ending? I don't have time or space this trip for anything else unfortunately.

[Keyhole1001]

Has anybody tried Abacca Spa? I see they have locations in both Makati and Pasay. They advertise as a spa with lingam massage, which I guess translates into a mediocre massage and a happy ending? I don't have time or space this trip for anything else unfortunately.Yes, I went to the one in Makati. You will get a very professional massage with an excellent happy ending. A couple things you need to be aware of. First, you can't choose the girl unless you make an appointment ahead of time. Second, you can't touch the girl and they won't take their clothes off. In fact, they wear uniforms and are very professional about the entire experience. Full service or any extras are not available. However, the massage is excellent and the finish is even better. They will work out every knot in your body. After massaging your back, arms, and legs face down, she will reach underneath and massage your balls, cock, ass hole, and prostate externally. My therapist was so good that I almost came and I had to ask her to stop. She asked me if she was hurting me (LOL) but I told her she was too good. She then had me turn over and asked if I wanted a facial treatment. What the heck I said--why not? She then put a cold facial mask on my face and continued massaging my balls, cock, asshole, and prostrate. It was sexual and therapeutic at the same time. She was extremely skilled and had the best technique I have experienced for a happy ending. Eventually, she went to work exclusively on junior and I knew it was time to blow my load. At the end, she gave me a hot towel clean up at my request, but you have the option to shower before and after if you want. She asked me what I wanted to drink and had it ready while I got dressed. My therapist's name was Chloe and she has worked there for 5 years. The place is clean, safe, and professional. They keep a card on file for you. After 10 visits, you get a free massage. I went with 90 min for 1200 P and I gave her a 800 P tip.

[CallSign Papa]

Really big positive experience for my first time in manila.Great report RM, good to see you've done a little research in prep for your trip and it seems to have paid dividends. I like Royal, even if it's on the small side (compared to Chaos or Valkyrie), but it's always populated with available girls, and some aren't half bad. If you want to take your next girl somewhere "classier". Try Penthouse near Ayala Triangle, a very short hop or Buddha Bar which is a short walk from A Venue Mall.

Hole in the Wall at the top of Century City Mall has some wonderful food options (both filipino and western), recommended.

[Kabul Guy]

Has anybody tried Abacca Spa? I see they have locations in both Makati and Pasay. They advertise as a spa with lingam massage, which I guess translates into a mediocre massage and a happy ending? I don't have time or space this trip for anything else unfortunately.I have been there 3 times in Makati.

Once was 4 hands for an hour.

Other times was one girl 2 hours.

Great massage and great finish but with some conditions. All times were 2000. One girl one hour is 1200. I left 200 per girl tip every time. Get a card and 10th trip is free.

No touching, no extra available, just a good massage and hand finish.

The Makita one is on the second floor. Look at there sigh and to the left is an alleyway under a sign for a cyber cafe. Go through that and take the stairs just inside.

[El Ted]

I have been there 3 times in Makati.

The Makita one is on the second floor. Look at there sigh and to the left is an alleyway under a sign for a cyber cafe. Go through that and take the stairs just inside.Thanks, KG. Will report back if I get a chance to visit.

[BangSex]

Awesome place to knock some sense in your tools coupled with happy ending. Try Miss Chloe for sure. You would love it dear.


Has anybody tried Abacca Spa? I see they have locations in both Makati and Pasay. They advertise as a spa with lingam massage, which I guess translates into a mediocre massage and a happy ending? I don't have time or space this trip for anything else unfortunately.

[RengadeMaster]

Great report RM, good to see you've done a little research in prep for your trip and it seems to have paid dividends. I like Royal, even if it's on the small side (compared to Chaos or Valkyrie), but it's always populated with available girls, and some aren't half bad. If you want to take your next girl somewhere "classier". Try Penthouse near Ayala Triangle, a very short hop or Buddha Bar which is a short walk from A Venue Mall.

Hole in the Wall at the top of Century City Mall has some wonderful food options (both filipino and western), recommended.Thanks for the info, will probably have a night or two there before my departure home and would like to end my holiday as I started "with a bang" I like the mixed club scene, if you get lucky you bag a freebie and leave a tip if not you pay, you can't loose (hopefully).

[CallSign Papa]

Thanks for the info, will probably have a night or two there before my departure home and would like to end my holiday as I started "with a bang" I like the mixed club scene, if you get lucky you bag a freebie and leave a tip if not you pay, you can't loose (hopefully).If you're 40 or under Valkyrie is probably the best environment for that kind of play. It's basically you and 300 hundred girls who are in various states of inebriation. Swing for the fences brother.

[Artgonsalves35]

Makati is a high end place in the Philippines, lots of good times and pretty girls around, unlike other cities in Manila which are scary, Makati is good for newbie like me.

[Gunners1]

Folks.

I arrive on 22 Jan on a business trip. I am tossing between new world makati or fairmont hotel.

Can I seek your input on which is better for mongering.

Free WiFi and access to the mall is key to pick up some quick short time action.

I have already hit on social media sites and have got enough numbers to keep me busy.

I will filter them through when I meet for coffee first and then get them to the room.

Do let me know your thoughts on which hotel is better.

New world or Fairmont.

Take care.

G.

[Member #4558]

New world or Fairmont.Fairmont is my choice. Fairmont have big cornersuites I stay in when there (I like spacious and not live in a shoebox). NW is also nice but Fairmont a tad more posch I think. Ofcourse it is like 100 mts further away from Greenbelt than NW is but again Fairmont is closer to Glorietta mall by a few yards. Another place I could recommend is Ascott (connected to Glorietta4 mall). Its a serviced hotel with rather spacious apts (1-3 bdr style, with real living room, kitchen, hallway). I think I will stay here more in the future. In none of the mentioned hotels would mongering be a problem. They all check ID (mostly) and that's that.

[Member #4698]

I have stayed in all 3 hotels and plan on staying in 2 of the 3 again. I prefer the Fairmont over the New World Makati (former Renaissance) hands down. The Fairmont is simply a nicer, more upscale, more modern hotel with more luxurious, well-appointed rooms, and better restaurants. I am a Fairmont Presidential club member so I also benefit from a free 3rd night, restaurant vouchers, and room upgrades, but I would still prefer the Fairmont over the New World without those perks.

Pool comparisons: the Makati New World pool and pool area is much larger than the Fairmont's, but I prefer the Fairmont pool because it is in sun from 10 am to 3:30 pm when I like to go swimming. Unfortunately, the New World pool is in shade after 11 am or so. Also ordering food & drinks is better at the Fairmont than the New World. Fairmont is set up to do this while its not quite as easy to do at the New World pool area.

On Location: Both hotels are located across the street from the Greenbelt Malls, however access to Greenbelt and Havana Cafe is slightly better from the Makati New World. (see google maps to understand why it takes an extra minute or two to make the walk from the Fairmont.) This is no big deal to me, but I mention it because you asked. Access to the Glorietta mall, however, is faster and easier from the Fairmont for the exact same reason.

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Fairmont vs Peninsula; This is a much harder call to make because I really like both hotels and both hotels are so very different, yet very successful, each in their own individual ways of making their guests happy. The Peninsula exudes old school Colonial Hong Kong luxury. It's huge lobby is always filled with guests and is very welcoming. There are shortcuts around the Lobby for those wanting more privacy. LOL.

The rooms at the Peninsula are well appointed and 1st class like the rooms at Fairmont, but the decor is more old-world European instead of modern like the Fairmont rooms.

The Peninsula restaurants are equal in quality to the Fairmont restaurants. But the Peninsula swimming pool in a garden setting with full all-day sun is much nicer than the Fairmont's modern, minimalist pool setting. I love the Peninsula swimming pool because it offers a great, semi-private setting for my girl or girls and I to enjoy an afternoon lunch & pool party. Lordy, I fondly recall those great Anejo Tequila double shots!

On Location: The Peninsula is not as accessible to Greenbelt or Glorietta as the Fairmont, but it's not a very big deal to me since both malls are still within walking distance.

On Price: even with my 3rd night free Fairmont Presidential club discount and room upgrades, it is hard to beat the price for the Peninsula Hotel which can be booked on Expedia or Agoda for around $106 to $118/ night.

So, my recommendation is stay at either the Fairmont or the Peninsula Hotel. You will be very happy at either hotel since they are both 5-star, absolutely no hassle girl friendly hotels with well-appointed rooms, very high-quality restaurants, and very relaxing pools (the Peninsula pool is a great one). If money is the deciding factor, choose the Peninsula. If location to the malls is the deciding factor choose Fairmont over the Peninsula or even the New World even though the New World offers the easiest, fastest access possible.

[Gunners1]

Many thanks NB.

You have broken it down and compared it thoroughly. I will now let me work know I have made my choice and ask them to book the Fairmont.

I use PL for arranging meets. The last time I was in makati PL was full of young and fresh birds. But I have a feeling that now the quality is not that great. It may be the holiday season and post new year the girls will red money and I should see more activity.

I will post my reports as and when it unfolds.

Thank you again.

G.


I have stayed in all 3 hotels and plan on staying in 2 of the 3 again. I prefer the Fairmont over the New World Makati (former Renaissance) hands down. The Fairmont is simply a nicer, more upscale, more modern hotel with more luxurious, well-appointed rooms, and better restaurants. I am a Fairmont Presidential club member so I also benefit from a free 3rd night, restaurant vouchers, and room upgrades, but I would still prefer the Fairmont over the New World without those perks.

Pool comparisons: the Makati New World pool and pool area is much larger than the Fairmont's, but I prefer the Fairmont pool because it is in sun from 10 am to 3:30 pm when I like to go swimming. Unfortunately, the New World pool is in shade after 11 am or so. Also ordering food & drinks is better at the Fairmont than the New World. Fairmont is set up to do this while its not quite as easy to do at the New World pool area.

On Location: Both hotels are located across the street from the Greenbelt Malls, however access to Greenbelt and Havana Cafe is slightly better from the Makati New World. (see google maps to understand why it takes an extra minute or two to make the walk from the Fairmont.) This is no big deal to me, but I mention it because you asked. Access to the Glorietta mall, however, is faster and easier from the Fairmont for the exact same reason.

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Fairmont vs Peninsula; This is a much harder call to make because I really like both hotels and both hotels are so very different, yet very successful, each in their own individual ways of making their guests happy. The Peninsula exudes old school Colonial Hong Kong luxury. It's huge lobby is always filled with guests and is very welcoming. There are shortcuts around the Lobby for those wanting more privacy. LOL.

The rooms at the Peninsula are well appointed and 1st class like the rooms at Fairmont, but the decor is more old-world European instead of modern like the Fairmont rooms.

The Peninsula restaurants are equal in quality to the Fairmont restaurants. But the Peninsula swimming pool in a garden setting with full all-day sun is much nicer than the Fairmont's modern, minimalist pool setting. I love the Peninsula swimming pool because it offers a great, semi-private setting for my girl or girls and I to enjoy an afternoon lunch & pool party. Lordy, I fondly recall those great Anejo Tequila double shots!

On Location: The Peninsula is not as accessible to Greenbelt or Glorietta as the Fairmont, but it's not a very big deal to me since both malls are still within walking distance.

On Price: even with my 3rd night free Fairmont Presidential club discount and room upgrades, it is hard to beat the price for the Peninsula Hotel which can be booked on Expedia or Agoda for around $106 to $118/ night.

So, my recommendation is stay at either the Fairmont or the Peninsula Hotel. You will be very happy at either hotel since they are both 5-star, absolutely no hassle girl friendly hotels with well-appointed rooms, very high-quality restaurants, and very relaxing pools (the Peninsula pool is a great one). If money is the deciding factor, choose the Peninsula. If location to the malls is the deciding factor choose Fairmont over the Peninsula or even the New World even though the New World offers the easiest, fastest access possible.

[GoodEnough]

I have stayed in all 3 hotels and plan on staying in 2 of the 3 again. I prefer the Fairmont over the New World Makati (former Renaissance) hands down. The Fairmont is simply a nicer, more upscale, more modern hotel with more luxurious, well-appointed rooms, and better restaurants. I am a Fairmont Presidential club member so I also benefit from a free 3rd night, restaurant vouchers, and room upgrades, but I would still prefer the Fairmont over the New World without those perks.

Pool comparisons: the Makati New World pool and pool area is much larger than the Fairmont's, but I prefer the Fairmont pool because it is in sun from 10 am to 3:30 pm when I like to go swimming. Unfortunately, the New World pool is in shade after 11 am or so. Also ordering food & drinks is better at the Fairmont than the New World. Fairmont is set up to do this while its not quite as easy to do at the New World pool area.

On Location: Both hotels are located across the street from the Greenbelt Malls, however access to Greenbelt and Havana Cafe is slightly better from the Makati New World. (see google maps to understand why it takes an extra minute or two to make the walk from the Fairmont.) This is no big deal to me, but I mention it because you asked. Access to the Glorietta mall, however, is faster and easier from the Fairmont for the exact same reason.

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Fairmont vs Peninsula; This is a much harder call to make because I really like both hotels and both hotels are so very different, yet very successful, each in their own individual ways of making their guests happy. The Peninsula exudes old school Colonial Hong Kong luxury. It's huge lobby is always filled with guests and is very welcoming. There are shortcuts around the Lobby for those wanting more privacy. LOL.

The rooms at the Peninsula are well appointed and 1st class like the rooms at Fairmont, but the decor is more old-world European instead of modern like the Fairmont rooms.

The Peninsula restaurants are equal in quality to the Fairmont restaurants. But the Peninsula swimming pool in a garden setting with full all-day sun is much nicer than the Fairmont's modern, minimalist pool setting. I love the Peninsula swimming pool because it offers a great, semi-private setting for my girl or girls and I to enjoy an afternoon lunch & pool party. Lordy, I fondly recall those great Anejo Tequila double shots!

On Location: The Peninsula is not as accessible to Greenbelt or Glorietta as the Fairmont, but it's not a very big deal to me since both malls are still within walking distance.

On Price: even with my 3rd night free Fairmont Presidential club discount and room upgrades, it is hard to beat the price for the Peninsula Hotel which can be booked on Expedia or Agoda for around $106 to $118/ night.

So, my recommendation is stay at either the Fairmont or the Peninsula Hotel. You will be very happy at either hotel since they are both 5-star, absolutely no hassle girl friendly hotels with well-appointed rooms, very high-quality restaurants, and very relaxing pools (the Peninsula pool is a great one). If money is the deciding factor, choose the Peninsula. If location to the malls is the deciding factor choose Fairmont over the Peninsula or even the New World even though the New World offers the easiest, fastest access possible.This is an excellent overview of the three hotels cited, and I concur with all of the conclusions. Of the three, my favorite is the Fairmont, which is my default Hotel in Makati. Like Natty, I'm a Platinum member of the President's Club, and so for me, the normal amenities, which are substantial, are a bit enhanced. This hotel offers, in my opinion, slightly better, more personalized service than the Peninsula and orders of magnitude better than the New World, where (in my view) the rooms are too small and the service much more mechanical. Also the relatively new rooftop bar above Meleio restaurant at Raffles (part of the Fairmont complex) offers a wonderful plein air view of the Makati skyline and some excellent, and reasonably priced appetizers.

GE.

[Member #4698]

Of the three, my favorite is the Fairmont, which is my default Hotel in Makati. Like Natty, I'm a Platinum member of the President's Club, and so for me, the normal amenities, which are substantial, are a bit enhanced. This hotel offers, in my opinion, slightly better, more personalized service than the Peninsula and orders of magnitude better than the New World, where (in my view) the rooms are too small and the service much more mechanical. Also the relatively new rooftop bar above Meleio restaurant at Raffles (part of the Fairmont complex) offers a wonderful plein air view of the Makati skyline and some excellent, and reasonably priced appetizers.
GE.Hey GE, I think we share similar tastes in hotels, food, and probably girls although I am not sure on the last one. I have a strong preference for friendly, sexy, natural breasted, no excess fat, young spinners. Some friends of mine have remarked after seeing some of my girl pics that most of them share a similar look even across their various Asian nationalities. I was unaware of this commonality, but upon reflection I see their point. It seems that at least 90% of my girls have that sexy, but not too made up or gaudy, innocent / naughty look. That wholesome naughty girl next door thing gets me every time. Ha Ha!

I am looking forward to my next visit to Makati. I had a really good time in 2017 in MNL. I ended up splitting my time between my two repeat favorite Bottoms girls and 3 new girls I met who were very cute (girl next doorsy types) and charming. I doubt I will see the barely 18-year-old "UNI" massage girl I met on Burgos one night, but I am looking forward to seeing another 2017 new girl who is still working at the Cotton Club plus meeting some more great MNL girls. I really think Manila girls are the most fun in the PI no matter where they originally hailed from.

I am booked again at the Fairmont Makati with a very good price. As I am sure you are aware, Fairmont is now a part of Accor. My Fairmont Chase credit card was closed, but they gave me a Fairmont gift card in exchange for my accumulated hotel points. I am also booked for the 1st time at the Fairmont Jakarta. This is a spanking new hotel and I expect it will be very good. The Fairmont Jakarta is a little out of the way for most of the action in Jakarta, but close enough to a couple of my favorite FL pick up bars, so I know I will be fine there. The Grand Hyatt remains my favorite hotel in Jakarta. Their central location can't be beat. The standard Hyatt Jakarta rooms are quite large (55 sq. Meters) and they have an amazing swimming pool that is twice the size of the Manila Peninsula's pool. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt Jakarta again for most of my next visit to Jakarta.

Lastly, thanks Westie for the compliment. My review of the Fairmont Makati and Peninsula Manila was long overdue. I am just paying it forward for all the tips and insights I have picked up over the years on this forum and from guys like you.

To Everybody, stay thirsty & good hunting in 2018.

NB.

[GoodEnough]

Hey GE, I think we share similar tastes in hotels, food, and probably girls although I am not sure on the last one. I have a strong preference for friendly, sexy, natural breasted, no excess fat, young spinners. Some friends of mine have remarked after seeing some of my girl pics that most of them share a similar look even across their various Asian nationalities. I was unaware of this commonality, but upon reflection I see their point. It seems that at least 90% of my girls have that sexy, but not too made up or gaudy, innocent / naughty look. That wholesome naughty girl next door thing gets me every time. Ha Ha!


The Grand Hyatt remains my favorite hotel in Jakarta. Their central location can't be beat. The standard Hyatt Jakarta rooms are quite large (55 sq. Meters) and they have an amazing swimming pool that is twice the size of the Manila Peninsula's pool. I will be staying at the Grand Hyatt Jakarta again for most of my next visit to Jakarta.

NB.NB, sounds like we share a common taste in women as well. I used to spend a lot of time on business in Jakarta and the Grand Hyatt was always my favorite. I wasn't aware that there's now a Fairmont in Jakarta, but I would doubtless try it if I get there again.

Have a great holiday season.

GE.

[Shark5]

Just a quick report from my trip to Makati a couple weeks ago. I had a good time as usual and didn't visit AC as planned as I usually do. Stayed around P. Burgos and finally hit a bar with a couple guys I met and had a great time. They played good music and one of the girls was pretty hot. I bought her a couple drinks but didn't bar fine her. It seemed like their was a lot of decent lookers at Cafe Cubana. More than usual, not sure if this was because it was close to the Holidays!

I did go to Cafe Havana but didn't seem to find any decent talent but again I did go early about 9 pm It seems the best talent shows up later in the night, at least in my former experiences.

I went to LA Cafe for the first time in about 6 years and was amazed at the talent. There was beautiful ladies every where in the bar but mainly upstairs. Again, not sure if it was because it was so close to the Holidays and the girls needed work. But. I was impressed and had a hard time deciding on a girl. I ended up taking two and had a really good time. One of the girls told me after we left that they wanted 5,600 php each and I laughed and told them they could leave. The other girl didn't know about the conversation and when I told her she could go with her friend, she said no. She wanted 3,000 for over night. Long time.

My trip was cut short and I had to return home but plan to head back again in a month or two.

On a side note there was a guy that got arrested for hitting a girl. I wasn't sure where he was from but some girls I talked to told me he was a Kiwi. He was a very large guy with lots of tattoos. It appeared he was arguing with two girls and one slapped him so he slapper her back, hitting her pretty hard. Before I knew it the local Poilce showed up and took him to the Police station. One of the girls told me he was told it would cost him 50,000 php to get out and he refused to pay it, so they kept him in jail for four nights. I am not sure if he ended up paying the fine or how he got out of jail. I saw him four days later in decent spirits. But didn't talk to him.

[CallSign Papa]

I occasionally like to mix it up when I spend time in Makati. Sometimes I'll go with no plan and no meet ups booked, and just wing it. I've had some pretty good results but that's mainly because over the last 3 years I've built up a long list of girls. Other trips I like to plan to the finest detail (who'll meet and when, what service they'll provide, what I'll pay etc). But with both of these models, it is always immensely hard to predict the reliability of who will show up (and when).

One thing you can always rely on is that if they do show up, they'll show up late. By at least an hour, sometimes two.

So with that in mind for my last trip I put together a spreadsheet to put to the test the reliability of those that said they would show up and whether they actually did. I've attached if for your viewing pleasure purely because it tickled me pink when I went back and reviewed my original plan as compared to what actually happened.

Obviously knowing the pinay mindset pretty well I had a number of backups available for each slot I had planned who were all Makati based and therefore able to come over at relatively short notice.

Hopefully the attached is pretty self explanatory; of the 14 girls I had planned to meet over the course of 4 days, 2 actually showed up (and both were late of course). An interesting note is that the dinner slot was always out at a restaurant (same for lunch) whilst all of the other slots were in my condo in Poblacion.

I'll post a review of the actual girls I ended up meeting instead, but this is likely a good illustration for first time visitors and newbies. You'll probably spend a lot of time chatting to the girls you plan to me before you actually arrive in Manila, and you'll expect them to show up at the date and time you had agreed on, and mostly, they won't. So always have a backup ready to go.

[CallSign Papa]

So if you read the my previous post, you'll know my last weekend in Makati was a patchwork of backups and improvisation. But despite my best laid plans disintegrating in short order I still managed to have a tip top weekend, helped largely by the beautiful weather.

The big difference was that this trip I had no work obligations, was just a long weekend to relax and bang some (hopefully) decent looking girls.

Arrived late Wednesday and zipped through customs. Was in the taxi less than 10 minutes after landing. Luck of the draw again but the Scoot flight out of Singapore on a Wednesday seems to be the only flight arriving at that time, therefore no queues at passport control.

With my dinner date letting me know she couldn't make it, I decided to to meet a regular at Royal for some drinks. I stayed at Milano Residences in an Airbnb condo, which was immaculately furnished and nicely spacious. However, what I didn't bank on was the building site directly opposite which was going full steam 24 hours a fucking day. Didn't help with my quality of sleep at all.

So off to Royal I went at about midnight, had a few drinks and AIYA arrived. She's a regular at Royal so if you go there a lot you'll know her as the slim girl who usually always wears a figure hugging red dress. It was pretty busy given the Christmas season but by 2 am I was ready to go. Back we went and Aiya did what Aiya does, and does very well. The standard rate is 2. 5 k for ST or 3 k if she stays over. One more roll in the hay on Thursday morning and she was out of the door by 10 am, just in time for my first slot of the day to text and say she was sick and couldn't meet.

It should be noted that in 99% of case "sick" translates to "I'm in bed, and I'm just too damn lazy to have to shower, get dressed and get to where you are". I personally consider the sick excuse a godsend; any girl who uses this would have delivered a lazy ass session and is better left forgotten.

I decided just to skip my morning slot and wait for lunch with Hazel who I'd met previously at Valkyrie briefly. It was late, I was drunk but the photos she sent through the next day looked great. In any event Hazel decided not to text or call, but to "go dark" and it became pretty obvious she'd be a no show. Not to worry, I had EVA on back up, she's 20, a student in culinary school and was more than happy to come have lunch at Century City Mall at short notice. After lunch we headed back to my condo and stuck a movie on but got no more than 20 minutes into before we were busy getting busy. Eva was damn good fun, pretty uninhibited and seemed to delight in trying a few new things (in fairness I think she wasn't anywhere near as innocent as she made out). Nonetheless she left late afternoon after a few hours and seemed happy with the 2 k I gave her for taxi (she didn't ask for anything).

And of course, I then hear from Hazel who wants to meet for dinner, but as I already had dinner plans we decided to try and meet the next day. I find it pretty pointless to get angry or aggressive with unreliable girls. For one thing, they don't give a shit if I spit invective at them, and two, there's always a second chance to meet if a girl is hot enough.

And then my dinner plans cancelled. Rather than get back to Hazel I decided to meet Samantha, 22, office worker in BGC. We had an amazing session a few trips back and she'd since dyed her hair blonde which I was keen to see. I headed over to the Burgos Circle in BGC (not to be confused with Burgos St) and we had dinner at The Tipsy Pig which had ok food but really good cocktails. Given I hadn't slept well I was keen to head back about 11 pm and Sam came with me and repeated the energy and enthusiasm she showed the first time we met. I"m seriously considering taking Sam to Bohol for a few days. She has such a great lithe figure, no kids and a tiny chunky butt. No money was exchanged but only because the last time I'd raised it she got rather defensive. I had brought a few little presents to give out and she seemed very happy leaving with chocolate at 1 am (had work the next day).

By Friday morning I felt like I needed to up my game. Had planned to meet 4 girls by Thursday evening and had only met 3.

I had no plans for Friday morning and woke up tired thanks to the relentless banging outside. I saw a wechat message from a very cute young thing and replied. She was in the next tower (Knightsbridge) and offered to come over to help relieve me of some stress for 3 k (which we quickly dropped to 2 k). TRISH arrived less than 15 minutes later but stank of the night before, had clearly been drinking a lot so I sent her straight to the shower. She was a little chubbier than I normally like them but had a very cute face and looked younger than 24. After a fairly ordinary massage she got to work waking me up properly. I had planned on fucking her but she was so good with her mouth I decided we'd stay that way. We did a quick last minute negotiation to include CIM (500) and I let her have it with both barrels.

And then my lunch plans cancelled. At this point I was beginning to get a little dizzy. I had a little Christmas shopping to do and decided to use a few hours to get that out of the way. Down to Greenbelt which was busy for a Friday lunchtime. I then headed to Draft to get a much needed beer and got a text message from Mhae who was sat next door at Spicy Fingers and had seen me walk past. Her and her friend joined me for a drink. We had a lovely catchup and she mentioned her and her friend were a double act if I was interested. Given her friend, who was nice and funny, was the size of a Jersey heffer I decided to pass and made excuses about more shopping to be done.

I then had a late afternoon to pass until dinner, and looked through my back up list. MIYA was available and relatively close so we rendezvoused at Cabin bar 30 minutes later, and she arrived as I was finishing my first beer. We decided to head straight back to mine to "watch a movie". Miya is older than my usual coterie, but we had been chatting on FilipinaCupid and she was very forward with how adventurous she was in bed. In her favour, she was very proactive as soon as we were alone together. I opened a bottle of wine and we had barely taken a sip before my lips were locked in a death drip on her holiest of holies. There followed a nice hour of trying virtually anything we could think of, with the highlight being her hilarious squealing as I inched into her well lubed ass. I think my laughing helped relax her a little, all part of the service.

I offered Miya some "taxi money" on the way out and she was happy with the 2 k I slipped into her bag. It might be me getting old but I really enjoy the banter with girls around 30 a lot more than girls around 20, who rarely seem to have anything like a developed sense of humour. Too bad I'm such a perv.

[Python75]

So with that in mind for my last trip I put together a spreadsheet to put to the test the reliability of those that said they would show up and whether they actually did. Actually in the 9 years I have been visiting the Phils I have always used a similar spreadsheet detailing daytime girl, evening girl, meeting venue and hotel, with roughly the same outcomes as yourself.

[CallSign Papa]

Imagine my total surprise when my Friday evening date confirmed that she would be able to make it. I was so sure she would cancel that I had made alternate plans in advance and then had to cancel them (luckily I managed to make it up to the offended lady in question).

And so off I went to meet LEAH at the rooftop restaurant at Buddha Bar (a mere 50 yards from my condo). Leah is mid-20's, incredibly pretty but has some awful acne scars. She was very shy at first, which threw me a bit as I thought she was simply disinterested, but after a few cocktails she warmed up nicely. Part of the issue some of us occasionally overlook is that because a girl can type fluently in English we think they're great at speaking to. Mostly they are, but if you have an accent, or talk too quickly, they get lost quickly and end up not responding out of fear of sounding silly (she told me this the next morning).

Buddha Bar is nice little secret, great for dinner dates because the rooftop terrace has a great ambiance even when quiet, plus you get plenty of space. The food and drinks are pricier than most bars in Makati, but I enjoy it nonetheless. After dinner we decided to retreat back to my place and finished our cocktails. We ended up talking for quite a while, all very flirty and it was past midnight before we got round to relieving each other of clothes. To my delight, I found that she had one of the tightest little pussies I've ever experienced. She certainly looked a little worried when she saw how excited I was down there and we had to take it very slow. At first it just wouldn't go in, despite her being wetter than a seal's earhole. We eventually settled with her on top lowering herself glacially down. I'm not kidding, she probably moved no more than an inch every minute or two. She looked in quite a bit of discomfort so I let her go at her own speed. I rarely go bareback with girls in Manila, unless I know them well, but we decided it might make things easier, and goddamn, it rocked my world. Yes it was silly, only time will tell how silly.

We spent a good hour afterwards laughing at what a crazy experience it was, and she walked to the bathroom like she was carrying a roll of carpet between her legs. The next morning we tried it again, and whilst it was a lot more straight forward, there was definitely no hammering away. I was tempted to have her stay the rest of the day but felt like I needed to crack on through my rapidly disintegrating list. She left before lunch time and wouldn't accept a peso for taxi or anything else. Definitely one for the "regular" list.

I nearly fell off my chair when my lunch date texted to confirm she was 5 by 5 and should arrive on time. When DHANICA appeared she looked a little younger than the 22 on her FC profile page, and I felt pretty self conscious whilst we had lunch. She was very dark, even for a pinay but had a rocking little figure. This session was pretty straight forward, she wanted a guy to "teach" her a few things in return for some financial aid. I rushed us through lunch and back we went to the Condo of Doom, where I got to see something I rarely see, a full on Bush. After the shock, we got to work honing her oral skills, which went from somewhere south of appalling to pretty damn good in the space of about 20 minutes. The rest she was pretty good at and when she left around 5 pm it was with 3 k and an armload of chocolate. We were both pretty pleased with how it turned out.

There is a special place in hell for girls who cancel Saturday evening plans after 7 pm, but cancel she did and I then resorted to which of the backups might be free. In the end I was lucky, LILY was free and ready to meet for some quality Mexican food at El Chupacabra, opposite Heckle & Jeckle. I rarely pass up a chance to eat there and we had some quality tacos and a few beers. Lily was due to start work at 10 pm (she's a "Promoter" at a nightclub), so we wound up back at my place before 10 pm where a hurried but no less enjoyable session ended with her insisting I finish her off by mouth, after I'd already popped. Never say I'm not a gentlemen.

Lily departed and I then had two options, a nice early night or head back out and enjoy Makati's finest. I dropped by Burgos to Bourbon Street to see an old regular, and then stopped in at Papilion to meet Ashley (who I'd met through FC), she looked totally and utterly incredible and I noticed quite a few hotties there too. Papilion is a relatively small club, with a slim bar and a tiny stage, but it does has a lovely secluded circular sofa where Ashley and I got to know each other. She was due to finish work at 4 am and I knew I wouldn't be waiting that long and so we made vague plans to meet before I left, which sadly never came to fruition. Definitely one to go back for.

By this time it was about 1 am and I decided to pop into Royal on the way home. The place was packed and some of the girls were dressed to seduce. It really is a shooting gallery. I nursed a Whisky Sour whilst at one of the high tables and was soon joined by two girls keen to party. Given my exertions earlier in the evening I was pretty sure I wasn't going to take out. However BELLE had other ideas and spent a good 30 minutes grinding against me. We settled on 2 k ST, and away we went. Back at the condo I removed her frilly little black dress and let her do all the work. Afterwards we shared a few whiskies and talked about Manila and London. Woke up at 6 am and she was still laying next to me, and she was snoring away at 10 am long past the time I'd been woken by construction noise. As I had a lunch session I decided to save some energy and gently nudged her out of the door. The fee stayed at 2 k, and she seemed happy with that.

[CallSign Papa]

It will not surprise you to learn that my Sunday lunch plans cancelled. Although in fairness to her, her grandma died. I have no idea is this is true or not but knowing the average Pinay I think the likelihood is that the aforementioned grandma is alive and kicking, or died a long time ago. As I can't be sure I guess she'll remain Shrodinger's Grandma. Given that the next girl, (my afternoon session) simply went dark, I just didn't trust her to contact me and decided it was better to make alternative plans. In the end she messaged me two days later to apologize. Classic pinay.

The next up on my backup list was PAMELA, 23 years old, a lovely slim figure with a bigger than average set of tits, and possessing a pair of braces which is usually a strict no-no for me. However Pamela was very keen to meet up (without financial expectations) and she ended up being a wonderful way to spend a day. She was pretty hungover when she arrived I was impressed she'd made the effort to come. I ordered her a pizza (always works for me) and we spent the best part of 5 hours on my sofa enjoying each other's nooks and crannies. I had joked that if she came to my condo she wouldn't stay an anal virgin for long, but sometimes you've just got to admit defeat. Her butthole was tighter than a turtle's nostril, there was just no way.

Pamela is the reason I love Pinays. Yes they're always unreliable and sometimes deceitful but damn they love sex, and they love a guy who'll go the extra mile to get them off. And got off she did. Pamela left with 3 k to go Christmas shopping which wasn't something we had agreed to before but she more than earned it and I had no problems rewarding her appropriately.

Given my flight out was early Monday morning I decided that my Sunday evening dinner plans would suffice. Not to mention that between the construction noise and my activities, I was pretty tired. Edz was next up for dinner, and when she suddenly decided to switch our venue from Makati to Quezon City, it was turn to cancel. That gave me the chance to meet HANNA, a mid-twenties mother of two I'd been chatting to for a while on Facebook. Hanna has the most glorious golden skin and works her tiny butt off for her kids so I decided to take her to Buddha Bar for some damn fine sushi. Back at mine she showed her appreciation in a number of very acrobatic ways (did I mention that she's a yogi? Flexibility is her mantra). She tried to rouse me for round two but by that point I was out of juice both literally and metaphorically. She left just after midnight with 3 k and more chocolate than she knew what to do with.

So, how did a weekend that went so wrong end up working out so well? I was shocked by how many of my prearranged plans fell through, but learned a good lesson that you need somewhere around 20 girls on backup who can come and fill in at short notice. In the end it was terrific fun and I'll see a number of these girls again. Back in early Feb.

[MohdirFan82]

I use programming method on my iphone.

This programming software connects to my iPhone contacts with picture and names. It also connected to google face finder.

Let's say for example: if marry jones (cancels) than grace = contacts (age, photo and etc pops up). I store and safe every girl I met on DIA, OkCupid, PinaLove, FC, Badoo, etc. I keep the one interested me, I only store the one interested me.

This programming language works great, I also I have to do is program for alternatives.


Actually in the 9 years I have been visiting the Phils I have always used a similar spreadsheet detailing daytime girl, evening girl, meeting venue and hotel, with roughly the same outcomes as yourself.

[Charm City Dave]

Will PM you with a request.


It will not surprise you to learn that my Sunday lunch plans cancelled. Although in fairness to her, her grandma died. I have no idea is this is true or not but knowing the average Pinay I think the likelihood is that the aforementioned grandma is alive and kicking, or died a long time ago. As I can't be sure I guess she'll remain Shrodinger's Grandma. Given that the next girl, (my afternoon session) simply went dark, I just didn't trust her to contact me and decided it was better to make alternative plans. In the end she messaged me two days later to apologize. Classic pinay.

The next up on my backup list was PAMELA, 23 years old, a lovely slim figure with a bigger than average set of tits, and possessing a pair of braces which is usually a strict no-no for me. However Pamela was very keen to meet up (without financial expectations) and she ended up being a wonderful way to spend a day. She was pretty hungover when she arrived I was impressed she'd made the effort to come. I ordered her a pizza (always works for me) and we spent the best part of 5 hours on my sofa enjoying each other's nooks and crannies. I had joked that if she came to my condo she wouldn't stay an anal virgin for long, but sometimes you've just got to admit defeat. Her butthole was tighter than a turtle's nostril, there was just no way.

Pamela is the reason I love Pinays. Yes they're always unreliable and sometimes deceitful but damn they love sex, and they love a guy who'll go the extra mile to get them off. And got off she did. Pamela left with 3 k to go Christmas shopping which wasn't something we had agreed to before but she more than earned it and I had no problems rewarding her appropriately.

Given my flight out was early Monday morning I decided that my Sunday evening dinner plans would suffice. Not to mention that between the construction noise and my activities, I was pretty tired. Edz was next up for dinner, and when she suddenly decided to switch our venue from Makati to Quezon City, it was turn to cancel. That gave me the chance to meet HANNA, a mid-twenties mother of two I'd been chatting to for a while on Facebook. Hanna has the most glorious golden skin and works her tiny butt off for her kids so I decided to take her to Buddha Bar for some damn fine sushi. Back at mine she showed her appreciation in a number of very acrobatic ways (did I mention that she's a yogi? Flexibility is her mantra). She tried to rouse me for round two but by that point I was out of juice both literally and metaphorically. She left just after midnight with 3 k and more chocolate than she knew what to do with.

So, how did a weekend that went so wrong end up working out so well? I was shocked by how many of my prearranged plans fell through, but learned a good lesson that you need somewhere around 20 girls on backup who can come and fill in at short notice. In the end it was terrific fun and I'll see a number of these girls again. Back in early Feb.

[BrainDrain]

So, how did a weekend that went so wrong end up working out so well? I was shocked by how many of my prearranged plans fell through, but learned a good lesson that you need somewhere around 20 girls on backup who can come and fill in at short notice. In the end it was terrific fun and I'll see a number of these girls again. Back in early Feb.Thanks for the detailed report (s) . Good example of how a weekend should be.

As well as indicating how many back up girls it takes to fill a weekend, it does also show show pointless too much pre-trip chatting is.

A very inspirational report. Thanks.

BD.

[Member #4558]

Great FR's CS. It was inspirational and I have read some of your former one and get the feel you are on top of things and pretty good at not running out of beddies (my slang for bedcompanions).

I have been coming in and out of Phils 8/9 years now and started my Phil life in LAC or MBC (don't remember which name it carried back then), fucked a waitress and the game was on. Have upped my game and changed strategies over the years and as of lately I use a mix of them all ex from I was never to return to LAC and I stay in one of the 4 high ends in Makati exclusively (Fairmont, Shangri-la, NW or Ascott). I call it "the circle". I visit around 15 times a year and I pre-plan my trips, sometimes in details or sometimes play it by ear (mostly it ends up in a mix of both).

I have over the years worked up a wide network of girls (the fleet) to work from in Makati. Mostly they say they are regular girls with regular life but I don't background check them so I am sure a few FLs or BGs throws themselves into the mix. And many students, holy moly (UNIs are by far the biggest source in my fleet). I don't like girlie bars so I as long as they meet me outside this environment I really don't care what or who they are. If it has pussy and the pussy is attached to a pretty body and face, its game on. Age range 18-30 (I always hunt for for new candidates to be added and some are let go / dismissed (and a few from natural reasons fades away).

Sure late arrivals / cancellations do happen also to me but it seems I am in more fortune regarding this than you describe. I tend to go the airline route and overbook number of girls, so mostly it is me cancelling. Late arrivals stirs up my daily sched so reschedules do happen quite frequently. But I put in quite a workload to underline the importance of on time arrivals and that I work under a western understanding of time. My relatively new way of transporting my girls, I send them a prepaid Grab, have lowered late incoming girls greatly. And I get reg updates when they are enroute on my iPhone.

Rendavouzpoint is in, what I describe as, the middle of "the circle". Its somewhere inside Glorietta (fairly in the middle, ground floor). Yeah I know Glorietta itself isn't located exactly in the middle per say but I do it so I can make a swift extraction if needed. Its close enough to any of the 4 mentioned hotels. On the plus side if a girl was to run late I have lots of eye candy to rest my eyes on and places to sit and have a beer or five. And A/C, never forget A/C. Some girls also require me to meet them at the Grabs drop off point, so being fairly in the middle makes easy walks to any of Gloriettas entrances.

The strange day; 2 weeks ago I stood in place mentioned above, waiting for a buddies arrival. I had followed her enroute from her pick up place in Fairways. This made me have some time on my hands, so I went to TGI and swallowed away a few temperamental shots of booze (had to evict my hangover). They worked and re-positioned myself to the exit next to Holiday Inn (in my book its not a good hotel, no big suites). In fact I was suddenly outside the entrance to Holiday Inn when the Grab arrived. I hello the girl, we shook hands and I explained her my plan to go to Shakeys Pizza (GL 1st FL) and grab a bite to eat either there or back in my apt.

While standing there my eyes drew themselves over to the entrance of Holiday Inn and I could see two gents walking out from the hotel. I noticed they had one girl each tagging along. The girls and me recognised each other in a blink. 1st girl was my previous day lunch fuck and the second girl was my previous day afternoon fuck. What are the odds. We couldn't hide our surprise as I told them previous day I was to leave that same night for Europe (a normal excuse I use to prevent girls from being to comfy, as I am running on a tight sched with many incoming per day). In between them and the Grab girl, now standing there understanding something weird was going on, I had an over night from Valkyrie who left recently. On the other hand both girls told me they had regular jobs and had never met a foreign guy before (I guess we all lied, hehe). Of course I could be the first one and the gents was nr 2, but I don't think so. Anyway the gents understood something was cooking and as me and the girls exchanged strange smiles and nods (all in shame) I could hear one of the gents asking if they new this guy (me). The response I didn't catch.

So now my girl went sour on me as she understood I knew the girls. I improvised a lie and laughed it off and created the story to be I knew the gents not the girls. She didn't buy it but the promise of a decent pizza made her partly let it all go (and probably her hope for some decent after bed fun compensation played a (major) part as well).

Then we are well inside Shakeys and decide to sit down and eat there. One SML later my girl has to go to take a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140). After a short while I hear a female voice calling out a name from not so far away. I am into deep beer study so I don't give it to much attention. Then I hear the call out again and along with me seeing some hand waving in my side eye I am thinking, wow this was noisy please stop or hope whoever she is calling pays attention. All in a sudden it comes back to me, its my monger name being called out. You know, I don't react instinctively on this name as I would if my real name was called out. I look up and see on my left side a girl I fucked from 2 days ago (which also was told I was to leave that very same night for Europe). Shame on me.

And of course the stars were aligned so now my girl is walking back in and she can see obviously I know this girl as well. I pretend I don't know the name calling girl but its hopeless. In fact she comes over to my table and tells my girl, in an angry voice, what kind of man I am. Lier whatever. She is really mad. I regret I also told her I was a one woman man at this point and that I would contact her again (good beddie by the way). Well now my girl had it and she leaves, in furious anger, after demanding 500 php from me. I slip her a yellow note to get out of this weird moment. In fact they both leave. At least I get the pizza but I change it to a take away instead as every guest at Shakeys now know what an ass I am.

The forgiving; When walking back to Shang I see the girl from 2 days. She has calmed down but is still angry. I invite her for pizza with the hope of some great make up sex. It works. So all in all a strange day but a happy ending (plurally meant).

[RengadeMaster]

Makati is a high end place in the Philippines, lots of good times and pretty girls around, unlike other cities in Manila which are scary, Makati is good for newbie like me.Bump for you're post.

Makati for me as a first timer to Philippines was an absolute blast.

I think the key is to do you're homework and get the feelers out maybe 1 week prior to arrival and then hit the ground running once you land.

I had an absolute blast in Makati.

[Stykler]

I'm hoping for some advice from a Makati warrior more familiar with the scene that I am, not having been to MNL before.

My work is conducting training seminars in MNL (The Peninsula I believe), and I have been offered my choice of two sessions. The first being 26 - 29 March 2018 or the other choice being 3 - 6 April 2018, both dates are either side of Easter.

Assuming there is a lull in hobby activity due to the girls going to home villiages for Easter, which date option should I take to allow me to also enjoy our hobby as much as is possible as well as a boring training course?

[Red Kilt]

My work is conducting training seminars in MNL (The Peninsula I believe), and I have been offered my choice of two sessions. The first being 26 - 29 March 2018 or the other choice being 3 - 6 April 2018, both dates are either side of Easter.For what it's worth (I've lived in Phils for the past 20 years), I suggest that the whole week preceding Easter is a waste of time for you.

It is referred to locally as "Holy Week" and the locals start winding down (or up) to Easter on the Monday. Much of the country is moribund during that week.

I noted your training workshop is running through to Thursday but I can assure you that Holy Thursday (or Black Thursday as it is known) is pretty quiet.

My suggestion would be to go with the April 3-6 assuming the 3rd, being a Sunday, is your arrival date. Remember also that the airports will be crazy busy on either date, with the locals either going home to or returning from Easter.

Of course, whichever date you choose, anything anyone says could go up in smoke if you happened to meet a special someone on Day 1 of either visit, so what happens on other days doesn't matter.

[CallSign Papa]

Great FR's CS. It was inspirational and I have read some of your former one and get the feel you are on top of things and pretty good at not running out of beddies (my slang for bedcompanions).

The forgiving; When walking back to Shang I see the girl from 2 days. She has calmed down but is still angry. I invite her for pizza with the hope of some great make up sex. It works. So all in all a strange day but a happy ending (plurally meant).Many thanks for the kind words VC. WRT awkward and sticky situations, mostly I've been "lucky" in that when I've seen a previous bedfellow, she's been with another guy and not vice versa.

But were I to hazard a guess as to how many guys the average 23 year old pinay has bedded, it's probably better to break it down into a hypothetical formula (admittedly based on anecdotal information):

Let's take one of my girls, Mae, 23, works occasionally at an online casino in Makati as a dealer.

She told me (and I've seen the evidence) that on FilipinaCupid she gets upwards of 200 messages a day. She once didn't log in during a weekend and came back to over 1000 messages. And that's just one site, she's also on OKCupid, Seeking Arrangements, and god knows how many. But let's assume in total she gets 2000 messages per week.

Now let's assume that only a small percentage of that are guys actually in Manila or likely to be there in the near future (less than a month). If we say 10% that's 200 likely candidates that are trying to knock her little booties every week. But she's picky, so let's say that only 10% of those are to her taste, or offer the right inducement to meet (cash / gifts).

So that's 20 guys per week since she was 19. So that's 1040 guys per year!

But let's say she only meets 2-3 guys from those 20, either because she's lazy or the guy is too busy or even that they do meet but don't bang.

That means cute little Mhae, the girl with the innocent face who always talks about meeting that one serious guy, but fucks me silly every time I see her, is likely screwing 130 guys a year. And let's take holidays and illness into account, and call it a round 100. Times that by her age. From 19 to 23 means she's probably done 400 GUYS!.

Next time you bump into a girl and she or you are with someone else, try not to feel bad.

(If anyone can point out flaws in my logic, I would welcome the feedback).

[PedroMorales]

(If anyone can point out flaws in my logic, I would welcome the feedback).When you get into a taxi, you don't ask how many were in the taxi before you. You are talking about a certain demographic who hunt whitey. I've been snared a few times and one of them was chatting to other whiteys while I had to do some business in an internet cafe. On line you have to take out the odd types who show their dicks etc and ask for cams. I would imagine only a small percentage of guys actually turn up and the demographic have their sights very firmly on them.

I like what one Thai skank wrote: I have never met anyone who said he is coming her next week. At the end of the day, these women are only play things in an adult theme park. That is where they belong.

On numbers, the media regularly say guys sleep around more than women do. That is before hookers are taken into account. Serious mileage.

The first one I met, a sugar farmer's daughter from Negros, back in around 2000, had about 10 or so prior to me and she was a well behaved girl. Even so, our worlds are far apart. Take the taxi, get off and make room for the next guy to have his turn on her.

[Teacup]

Next time you bump into a girl and she or you are with someone else, try not to feel bad.

To paraphrase, it's not your girl, just your turn.

[Goferring]

To paraphrase, it's not your girl, just your turn.I had a girl burst into laughter on me when I caught her messaging other Cupid hopefuls on my dime.

Her: "you're not jealous are you, honey?

Me: "why would I be jealous? They WANT to fuck you. I AM fucking you".

[Stykler]

Of course, whichever date you choose, anything anyone says could go up in smoke if you happened to meet a special someone on Day 1 of either visit, so what happens on other days doesn't matter.Thanks Mr Kilt for your very useful advice.

[Member #4558]

Many thanks for the kind words VC. WRT awkward and sticky situations, mostly I've been "lucky" in that when I've seen a previous bedfellow, she's been with another guy and not vice versa.

She told me (and I've seen the evidence) that on FilipinaCupid she gets upwards of 200 messages a day. She once didn't log in during a weekend and came back to over 1000 messages. And that's just one site, she's also on OKCupid, Seeking Arrangements, and god knows how many. But let's assume in total she gets 2000 messages per week.

Now let's assume that only a small percentage of that are guys actually in Manila or likely to be there in the near future (less than a month). If we say 10% that's 200 likely candidates that are trying to knock her little booties every week. But she's picky, so let's say that only 10% of those are to her taste, or offer the right inducement to meet (cash / gifts).

Next time you bump into a girl and she or you are with someone else, try not to feel bad.

(If anyone can point out flaws in my logic, I would welcome the feedback).I am absolutely not going to jump at your logic because in fact I find it to be very true and very in line what are my findings too. I have had a few repeat girls over time and you tend to get some sort of insights in their MO's (before, during and after session) which I find to be both educational and fun. At least it has offered me new methods or further developments of old methods to up my game dealing with girls met through cyber related sites / apps.

Some girls are in very high demand, often due to looks, location, online activity, photoshoots handled by expert photographers etc etc. They get loads of msgs thrown into their inboxes daily. One girl logged on my Ipad to show me, as an example, how a day in her cyber life looked like. It was mind blowing. She also, by mistake, forgot to delete her password history when she logged off so I admit I was snooping around her site, for fun, a few days after our business was completed. Creepy but I didn't do anything or destroyed anything (not my style) for her. I thought of it as a study in how girls interact in cyber thinking they are not being watched. Mostly in fact this girl mostly just deleted msgs at a rapid speed and I get back to this.

I never had any complaints myself as I believe my various sites / apps creating quite good traffic. But compared to the girl we play in different leagues. While I can have like 20-40 (latter on a good day) girls initiating contact, I stopped after browsing through her 3 first pages of commingles from midnight to when we sat there on an early afternoon (15 hrs). This was from 1 site only. Holy moly, gave me something to think about and viewed from a mongers angle; "how to get girls like this interested?

From a briefly overlook at a few msgs send to her I could see that most guys sending msgs are short and swift and straight to the point (guys with skills and no outside crap banter). And according to this girl that's a good thing. All the time msgs are heavy raining into her account she have no time or interest to read long lifestories. Important stuff to her is when do you get here, are you allready in town (this should be clearyfied in headline or atleast on the top of any msgs going to girls (then they might continue read), age, looks, boring / funny, picture outside a high end place is fine (and proof you atleast have been in ohils before) etc etc.

Creepy msgs like I give you 5 k php to bone your shithole, well your out. Mostly it is a behavioural thing and I believe msgs of this kind mostly comes from the "I am still in moms basement and while wanking off I send horny msgs to girls to trigger my image". There are a lot of msgs of such.

So I skip most of the outside / pointless banter (I let them girls handle all the "did you eat your lunch", "how are you", "what are you doing now" crap) and shoot straight to the point in a nice and hopefully humorist way. I've learned and also told by girls that pinays do "love" a funny guy. And viewed in the light of being just one out of many trying to bed a girl and send her msgs, I use premium features wherever its available, as this mostly mean your msg will stick itself on top of any girls inbox. Its not that I am successful every time, of course not, but I believe my chances to be better if I just threw loads of words to a girl (just to be nice). Its all about get them to read your msg.

Interacting with girls in not so high to in low demand are different of course. I've also had what I would say to be a less attractive girl in my apt. She also gave me insights in her online world (I wasn't to interested after all boning her so why not pretend I was interested in her life instead). Not so many msgs, probably more like my activity (20-40 per day incoming). I underline from those msgs I receive only 10% would be someone I put in a "maybe future prospect list". Most girls don't read profiles very well and even if I state very clearly Makati / Manila (in that order) located girls only I get msgs from girls as far away as Gen San. Also they fail on my age range settings and no child policy (hate stretches). So moderate to less popular girls haven't that big fleet of guys to choose from and it is of course easier to get their attention.

Now all this seems like a lot of work but it isn't. I mostly just fire up my profiles two weeks prior to my arrival to make myself a list of potential prospects. I mass send out (copy paste routine), where that's still possible, msgs to a bunch of girls. After sending out, lets say, 100 msgs I get 40 replies and from this I narrow them down to 20 (and take it from there. I still have my rather long list of already boned girls (repeats) and a long list of prospects for hopefully future fun. From those 20, maybe I meet only 4-5 of them, and put the rest on mentioned list. I have mostly fun while doing so and it doesn't affect my work-/ family-or social life.

Happy poonin.

[Mogwai]

.... beddies (my slang for bedcompanions).... I stay in one of the 4 high ends in Makati exclusively (Fairmont, Shangri-la, NW or Ascott). I call it "the circle".... I visit around 15 times a year.... I have over the years worked up a wide network of girls (the fleet).... I tend to go the airline route.... as every guest at Shakeys now know what an ass I am.So to summarise your great story: you're an asshole who's flying to the Phils about 15 times a year to circle your fleet of beddies.

OK, I get it LOL!

[Engine Driver]

Many thanks for the kind words VC. WRT awkward and sticky situations, mostly I've been "lucky" in that when I've seen a previous bedfellow, she's been with another guy and not vice versa.

But were I to hazard a guess as to how many guys the average 23 year old pinay has bedded, it's probably better to break it down into a hypothetical formula (admittedly based on anecdotal information):

Let's take one of my girls, Mae, 23, works occasionally at an online casino in Makati as a dealer.

She told me (and I've seen the evidence) that on FilipinaCupid she gets upwards of 200 messages a day. She once didn't log in during a weekend and came back to over 1000 messages. And that's just one site, she's also on OKCupid, Seeking Arrangements, and god knows how many. But let's assume in total she gets 2000 messages per week.

Now let's assume that only a small percentage of that are guys actually in Manila or likely to be there in the near future (less than a month). If we say 10% that's 200 likely candidates that are trying to knock her little booties every week. But she's picky, so let's say that only 10% of those are to her taste, or offer the right inducement to meet (cash / gifts).

So that's 20 guys per week since she was 19. So that's 1040 guys per year!

But let's say she only meets 2-3 guys from those 20, either because she's lazy or the guy is too busy or even that they do meet but don't bang.

That means cute little Mhae, the girl with the innocent face who always talks about meeting that one serious guy, but fucks me silly every time I see her, is likely screwing 130 guys a year. And let's take holidays and illness into account, and call it a round 100. Times that by her age. From 19 to 23 means she's probably done 400 GUYS!.

Next time you bump into a girl and she or you are with someone else, try not to feel bad.

(If anyone can point out flaws in my logic, I would welcome the feedback).Very nice analysis Call Sign Papa. Assuming that each suitor gives Mae PHP 2,000 as taxi money, she's earning PHP 16,000 per month pocket money in addition to her normal job. Not too bad.

Interesting to note that the girls on dating sites who bang around 100 guys a year for money and gifts don't consider themselves as WGs. Social medial and dating apps give a veneer of respectability to this sordid trade.

I often wonder what sort of wife or long term girlfriend these girls would eventually make. I'm stressed just thinking about it. Surely after shagging hundreds of foreign guys previously, it would leave some sort of lingering mental and emotional issue, which the poor unsuspecting fool of a husband would need to deal with.

[Chocha Monger]

Very nice analysis Call Sign Papa. Assuming that each suitor gives Mae PHP 2,000 as taxi money, she's earning PHP 16,000 per month pocket money in addition to her normal job. Not too bad.

Interesting to note that the girls on dating sites who bang around 100 guys a year for money and gifts don't consider themselves as WGs. Social medial and dating apps give a veneer of respectability to this sordid trade.

I often wonder what sort of wife or long term girlfriend these girls would eventually make. I'm stressed just thinking about it. Surely after shagging hundreds of foreign guys previously, it would leave some sort of lingering mental and emotional issue, which the poor unsuspecting fool of a husband would need to deal with.The girls are good for fucking only after having that much cock ran through them. Anyone fool enough to make them a wife better prepare to deal with them asking for things in exchange for fucking, and the fact that they find fucking other men to get whatever they want acceptable behavior because it never goes away. Social media and dating apps hookers become addicted to thrill of picking out some strange cock to fuck within an hour or two and develop a permanent roving eye for the next guy. As some mongers pointed out recently, the same girls remain on the dating sites for years making only minor changes or becoming inactive for short periods before returning. The husband or long-term boyfriend is in for one hell of a ride!

[MohdirFan82]

You forgot to mentioned these girls also have someone abroad who loves them A pinay told me (after I fucken her) she gets 30,000 peso a month from her boyfriend in UK just to keep her out of prostitution.

I feel so sad for those kind of fools.


Very nice analysis Call Sign Papa. Assuming that each suitor gives Mae PHP 2,000 as taxi money, she's earning PHP 16,000 per month pocket money in addition to her normal job. Not too bad.

Interesting to note that the girls on dating sites who bang around 100 guys a year for money and gifts don't consider themselves as WGs. Social medial and dating apps give a veneer of respectability to this sordid trade.

I often wonder what sort of wife or long term girlfriend these girls would eventually make. I'm stressed just thinking about it. Surely after shagging hundreds of foreign guys previously, it would leave some sort of lingering mental and emotional issue, which the poor unsuspecting fool of a husband would need to deal with.

[SaltyPete]

Very nice analysis Call Sign Papa. Assuming that each suitor gives Mae PHP 2,000 as taxi money, she's earning PHP 16,000 per month pocket money in addition to her normal job. Not too bad.

I often wonder what sort of wife or long term girlfriend these girls would eventually make. I'm stressed just thinking about it. Surely after shagging hundreds of foreign guys previously, it would leave some sort of lingering mental and emotional issue, which the poor unsuspecting fool of a husband would need to deal with.This isn't directed at you, ED, as I'm sure you already know better. But if it Flies, Floats or Fucks - Rent it, don't buy it.

[Mr Enternational]

Very nice analysis Call Sign Papa. Assuming that each suitor gives Mae PHP 2,000 as taxi money, she's earning PHP 16,000 per month pocket money in addition to her normal job. Not too bad.And there lies the flaw in CSP's post. Sure the math works out, but you do not see chicks rolling in money like that. So it is safe to assume she is not fucking 2 or 3 guys every weekend, unless she is doing it mainly for fun and for free.

I have also seen many chicks' dating site inbox in several countries and it lines up the same as CSP stated he saw, but another thing that remains constant is that these chicks are still broke. When I see them pulling up in a Mercedes Benz carrying an authentic Channel handbag, I will believe this internet/hooker shit is lucrative for them. Otherwise they are doing just as well as their counterpart that is not on a dating site.