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Hey guys, I am 1 week into a 3 week visit and have tons to report. The bad news is that I am not in a good place to give a report as many eyes seem to be comnig to my screen. I will get a more private place for a report later this week. All I can say is that Makati is jumping and if you haven't made your reservations, get them going. I will also have some hotel reports too.
I have a question. I have a couple of $100 bills that have some minor problems. One has a date stamp in ink and the other one small burn hole. The money changer places either will not exchange it or want to give me like 75% face value for it, which is a flipping rip off because it is legal tender. These are NOT badly mutilated bills, but not perfect so I guess it looks like I will have a hard time to exchange them.
QUESTION: Where can I exchange the bills with no problems?
ADVICE: Check EVERY SINGLE BILL before you come if you are bringing cash to exchange. They must be new and in good shape. I've been here many times, but never had a problem before this trip. I guess the bank at home that I use just keeps good bills, but this time got 2 bad ones.
Full reports coming!
As always, I am Nefarious!
GoodEnough
06-26-06, 09:08
Nefarious:
What you ran into is not at all unusual, though I'm not sure why it happens, but it does, and not only in Manila. If I were you, I would forget trying to exchange the money and use it once you get home. In the meantime, use your ATM.
There was an interesting article in the New York Times yesterday or today, stressing that, as a rule, the least expansive mode of money changing is the ATM, as the charges are far less than those imposed by money changers and banks. I live here, and I never carry US cash and always use the machines when I need to convert $ to pesos.
:D
GE
Hey guys, I am 1 week into a 3 week visit and have tons to report. The bad news is that I am not in a good place to give a report as many eyes seem to be comnig to my screen. I will get a more private place for a report later this week. All I can say is that Makati is jumping and if you haven't made your reservations, get them going. I will also have some hotel reports too.
I have a question. I have a couple of $100 bills that have some minor problems. One has a date stamp in ink and the other one small burn hole. The money changer places either will not exchange it or want to give me like 75% face value for it, which is a flipping rip off because it is legal tender. These are NOT badly mutilated bills, but not perfect so I guess it looks like I will have a hard time to exchange them.
QUESTION: Where can I exchange the bills with no problems?
ADVICE: Check EVERY SINGLE BILL before you come if you are bringing cash to exchange. They must be new and in good shape. I've been here many times, but never had a problem before this trip. I guess the bank at home that I use just keeps good bills, but this time got 2 bad ones.
Full reports coming!
As always, I am Nefarious!
Also be careful about serial numbers. There was a certain series, CB or CL or something like that, that was hard to change in some countries.
Also it's better to avoid 1996 series bills, the first year for the new design, as these are also not easily changed in some places.
It would be really hard to get what you're looking for on the Net. You would be better off getting yourself a map at the bookstore, or a Lonely Planet.
Go to Google "images" and search. If you find anything, let us know.
In the Philippines, I usually purchased an EZMap. They have maps of many major cities, including Angeles City (which is a major city only if you are looking for p4p)
As for LA cafe, the URL has been posted a few times, including by me. I don't have it handy now.
I don't know if this helps but LA Cafe is in Ermita, EDSA is near the intersection of EDSA and Roxas in Pasay (near the airportf) and Burgos is in Makati just off of Makati Ave.
Where can I find a map of Manila online? I am need here and have no idea where EDSA, LA Cafe and Burgos are.
Thanks
Where can I find a map of Manila online? I am need here and have no idea where EDSA, LA Cafe and Burgos are.
Thanks
LA Cafe is in Ermita (a section of Manila)
LA Cafe Bar & Grill
Corner of MH Del Pilar & R. Salas
1429 M. H. Del Pilar
Ermita Manila
EDSA - all cab drivers know it.
At the intersection of Roxas Boulevard and EDSA (Epifanio De los Santos Avenue)
Across the street from the Heritage Hotel
P. Burgos - all cab drivers know it.
a street off of Makati Avenue
Vinnie1369
06-27-06, 09:33
3K for the bar.
2K for the girl (tip as you guys call it)
Budget more for drinks. How much to budget for drinks alone is a tough call because it depends largely on
- The time of night you are out.
- The bar(s) you are in
- Your will power when it comes to your own drinks and ladies drinks.
I have gone out on Burgos and spent as little as 1K on drinks (Mostly at Rogues during Happy Hour.)
But I have also spent as much as 25K in one night. Angeles City - Camelot - April 2003...WHAT A NIGHT!
I think the most I ever spent in a night over the past year is 12K at Rogues. I bought a lot of rounds...Mostly tequila. I sometimes get a mean streak and like to get the girls so drunk they fall over themselves. What can I say? I am sadistic!
Guys,
I arrive on 22nd july. At the moment GF thinks im arriving 23rd. I have booked the nikkomanila for the first night.
I have always wanted to do a barfine out of Burgos. I have budgeted for barfine/tip 5k. Should I allow 7k incl drinks.
Or should I just meet the gf and save myself all the grief and wasted pera.
Vinnie1369
06-27-06, 10:34
Another Tip from your Uncle Vinnie.
Filipinos are less likely to try to screw over one of their own as compared to a white guy! This is not always true but as I said. Less likely.
Try to give the money to one of the girls you barfine. Of course make sure you keep your happy hairy ass right outside the money exchange place and make sure the girl knows you want a receipt. When standing outside stand out of sight of the money changer inside.
Also, make sure the girl is somewhat trustworthy. How do you know that you ask? Well, if you have the girl with you for 2 or more days and she seems pretty cool and you treated her well. Then chances are she won't screw you too badly. Of course there are exceptions to this.
Keep in mind you still run a risk in this situation because the girl may decide to screw you anyway and will look at you and say, "Who you? " when you ask for your cash. Fighting with her will get you nowhere because the cops will side with her as you will have zero proof on your side.
If you have a friend who lives here (as I do) and he has a filipina gf or wife you can ask the guy to get his significant other to do it for you.
As Good Enough replied to you. ATM's are cool too but the problem is most ATM's now a days only let you take out 4000 pesos PER TRANSACTION until you hit your card's limit or the ATM's limit. I think the most I got out of an ATM was 40K pesos. That was an ATM in Park Square (Glorietta Mall). My card had a $500 limit.
Another thing you can try is asking the hotel front desk to do a cash advance against the credit card. Some will. Some won't. Depends on how lazy the clerk is (and most are! ) and also depends on hotel policy. If the clerk gives you a hard time ask for a manager and be polite!
As always be wary but you can sometimes get away with things.
Hey guys, I am 1 week into a 3 week visit and have tons to report. The bad news is that I am not in a good place to give a report as many eyes seem to be comnig to my screen. I will get a more private place for a report later this week. All I can say is that Makati is jumping and if you haven't made your reservations, get them going. I will also have some hotel reports too.
I have a question. I have a couple of $100 bills that have some minor problems. One has a date stamp in ink and the other one small burn hole. The money changer places either will not exchange it or want to give me like 75% face value for it, which is a flipping rip off because it is legal tender. These are NOT badly mutilated bills, but not perfect so I guess it looks like I will have a hard time to exchange them.
QUESTION: Where can I exchange the bills with no problems?
ADVICE: Check EVERY SINGLE BILL before you come if you are bringing cash to exchange. They must be new and in good shape. I've been here many times, but never had a problem before this trip. I guess the bank at home that I use just keeps good bills, but this time got 2 bad ones.
Full reports coming!
As always, I am Nefarious!
Fellow ponders,
I am planning a vacation there. Where is the best place to stay. NOt to cheap and not to expensive. Also, where are some great place to pick up the ladies.
I was staying in a family condo for a few days so since I work USA hours, I had to work in an internet cafe from about 10pm until about 6am--off and on. For the 2 days I did that, I went mainly to Cafe 88 on Burgos as mentioned in some other posts.
Although it is probably obvious, any girl in those cafes who is chatting with a guy is available. I can almost assure you that even if they aren't chatting with guys, if they are in the cafe on Burgos at that time of the night, they are probably available.
People have mentioned how the girls who don't work in the clubs are not tested regularly and that is true so be careful. However, once I was there a little after 4am right when the bars closed and the place was packed. People were waiting for computers and almost all of the girls were chatting.
I had a lot of work to do so I wasn't paying attention to all of the girls but I did notice that the girl next to me kept standing up and turning around and pointing the cam at her chest--probably at the guys' requests. We had brief conversations when she would laugh or mumble and she told me that she worked at Banditos and had just finished work--which is when I realized that probably most of the girls there had just finished from the bars (and thus tested on a regular basis).
We finished about the same time and as I was walking down Burgos to my car, she had someone chase me down saying she wanted to talk to me but was too shy (a common term heard here). She wanted 1200 for ST (1000 for her and 200 for the guy) but said she would stay as long as I wanted. Even though I had been to PDP twice in the previous 24 hours and seen my regular "GF", I decided at that price I would give it a try.
She took me to this cheap and dirty ST hotel I don't even know the name of. Since it was already about 6:30am at that time, I didn't want to be seen by anyone so I said OK. I think it was 380 for 12 hours. The girl was very aggressive and would have done just about anything I wanted except greek. She wasn't bad looking but she had a kid who already passed away and I think she said she was 21 and she goes by the name of Sydney at Banditos.
Because of her kid the boobs were a little saggy but she was really tight. She kept asking me what I wanted to do because I was the customer and the customer is always right. After about an hour, I was tired so I dropped her off and went back to get some sleep.
Anyways, this long report is just to remind people that all the girls are available at any internet cafe around burgos and can be had a lot cheaper. Since many of the bargirls go there after work, there is a good selection and a lot of good looking ones. I also feel that they are probably eager for a guy after chatting sexually with guys in the cafe. As mentioned before by CL, for a place to stay for the night, they may go with you for free.
If you've ever seen how most of these girls live, you would understand why...
Hope this helps. Hope to see posts of success stories.
Cebu Local
06-29-06, 00:17
Anyways, this long report is just to remind people that all the girls are available at any internet cafe around burgos and can be had a lot cheaper. Since many of the bargirls go there after work, there is a good selection and a lot of good looking ones. I also feel that they are probably eager for a guy after chatting sexually with guys in the cafe. As mentioned before by CL, for a place to stay for the night, they may go with you for free.
If you've ever seen how most of these girls live, you would understand why...
Hope this helps. Hope to see posts of success stories.Offer to add breakfast and a place to sleep and that is very attractive sounding early in the morning.Just got one for the price of Lunch at KFC for her and 2 friends and paying her internet bill 200 pesos during a lazy afternoon
I went there again last night with a friend after leaving Mercury when we didn't see much of a selection.
Got there at about 12:30am and there were 12 to choose from. Although none of them were absolute 10's, I would say there were many 6-7's and 2 or 3 8's (IMO). I took a girl that I didn't realize how small she was until she came to the room.
It turns out she was 4'9" and 36 kgs or about 80 pounds. She swears she was 18 and going to be 19 in November but I really questioned it when we got to the shower and she didn't have any pubic hair. She stated that she just never grew any hair and she never shaved it...
Her English was OK and her service was decent and she never asked about money. I think that a girl like her is many guys' wild fantasies... A school-girl type spinner.
If you're interested, I'll post more details and her Phoenix 1 info later. For 1200 for the room and a 1500 tip, it was 90 minutes well spent for me.
i went there again last night with a friend after leaving mercury when we didn't see much of a selection.
got there at about 12:30am and there were 12 to choose from. although none of them were absolute 10's, i would say there were many 6-7's and 2 or 3 8's (imo). i took a girl that i didn't realize how small she was until she came to the room.
it turns out she was 4'9" and 36 kgs or about 80 pounds. she swears she was 18 and going to be 19 in november but i really questioned it when we got to the shower and she didn't have any pubic hair. she stated that she just never grew any hair and she never shaved it.
her english was ok and her service was decent and she never asked about money. i think that a girl like her is many guys' wild fantasies. a school-girl type spinner.
if you're interested, i'll post more details and her phoenix 1 info later. for 1200 for the room and a 1500 tip, it was 90 minutes well spent for me.i think if you had any doubt about her age you should of shown her the door.
what would you have done if the local police had kicked in your hotel door and it turned out she was ****?
yyou would have been in big shit and dont forget the local police have been involved in many "sting" scams in manila and ac.
Orgasm Donor
06-30-06, 02:14
I barfined 2 girls from Bandidos. One by the name of "Hu-mee" and the other by the name of Jocelyn (she wears a gold "J" pendant) Sex was great, but if I went to the bathroom, I could hear them rummaging thru the drawers of my hotel room looking for something to steal.
Anyhow, point of this bulletin, is that a got a raging case of the clap from one of them. I used condom, but maybe I got it orally (BBBJ), or wasnt careful enough taking the condom off.
Thought you guys should know. Ill give more detailed report later, perhaps with fotos of these dirty girls.
OD
i think if you had any doubt about her age you should of shown her the door.
what would you have done if the local police had kicked in your hotel door and it turned out she was ****?
yyou would have been in big shit and dont forget the local police have been involved in many "sting" scams in manila and ac.
phoenix 1 is a massage parlor where all girls are required to show proof of age before being employed there. i had one at pdp who told me she was 18 but i just found out from her that her 18th birthday was last tuesday and she was 17 the whole year she had been working there.
i'm not sure the legality of that but i know that mps require proof of age before being able to be employed.
Orgasm Donor
06-30-06, 06:47
public service announcement!
these are the girls that gave me the clap.
from bandidos club on p. burgos. jocelyn is on the left wearing the gold "j" pendant. humee is on the right with the color contacts, i did notice quite a bit of goo coming out of her when i nailed her doggie-style.
who knows if it was from the bbbjs or because i let them take off the condom (they werent that careful) anyway, heads up to you guys.... at my expense. they trashed my hotel room too. i could hear them going thru all the drawers in the room when i went to the toilet. after i barfined them, they said "lets go to breakfast!" no! get to the hotel room and they attacked the minibar. no! went thru 100 yards of toilet paper, (probably to wipe up the muck from their crotch) unhappy with 1500 peso tip each, and asked for cab fare which i did not give. sex was pretty good tho, i fucked them hard and long... i tend to do that when im peeved at a girl... haha
od
Bill Buxton
07-01-06, 03:23
public service announcement!
these are the girls that gave me the clap.
from bandidos club on p. burgos. jocelyn is on the left wearing the gold "j" pendant. humee is on the right with the color contacts, i did notice quite a bit of goo coming out of her when i nailed her doggie-style.
who knows if it was from the bbbjs or because i let them take off the condom (they werent that careful) anyway, heads up to you guys.... at my expense. they trashed my hotel room too. i could hear them going thru all the drawers in the room when i went to the toilet. after i barfined them, they said "lets go to breakfast!" no! get to the hotel room and they attacked the minibar. no! went thru 100 yards of toilet paper, (probably to wipe up the muck from their crotch) unhappy with 1500 peso tip each, and asked for cab fare which i did not give. sex was pretty good tho, i fucked them hard and long... i tend to do that when im peeved at a girl... haha
od
looks like zithromax to the rescue!!!!!!!!! 2 pills first and then 1 the next day. all clear 24 hours.any drug store at 200-250 peso each...
dr. buxton to the rescue...
Shouldn't one see a doctor? If so, anybody know of a good VD clinic in Cebu and Manila.
Looks like ZITHROMAX to the rescue!!!!!!!!! 2 pills first and then 1 the next day. All clear 24 hours.Any drug store at 200-250 Peso each...
DR. Buxton to the rescue...
Orgasm Donor
07-01-06, 20:39
Yah, ZITHROMAX to the rescue, I didnt realize I had a problem till I was flying home and took a [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) at the Narita airport in Tokyo.
So at home, I got an appt. at Planned Parenthood, had to wait a WEEK!
(Dont get me started on how screwed up our med system is here in the US compared to many 3rd world countries...) So it wasnt like I could drop into a farmacy and buy some Z for 200 pesos ($4)...
Cost me $115 for test and treatment.
the Doc also gave me this stuff you mix with water "VANTIN"...
She said it will also knock out any other bacteria like Chlamydia (sp?) anyhow, all contacts have been notified, and hopefully in a week Ill be good as new.
Im thinking some of those "almost virgin" girls from the province are cute but they are too shy in bed, and not much fun, but a bit more "safer". Manila girls may be more wild and kinky, but you really gotta play it safe as you can.
Back to our regular programming...
OD
Orgasm Donor
07-01-06, 20:53
I hate to take things off topic, but since Billspu asked... Ive seen many VD clinics in the cities, just think about it next time you are at a club, if there are 20-30 girls in a club, and they all gotta go for their monthly checkup X that by the amount of clubs in Manila... keep your eyes open around Manila and Cebu, seemed like there was a clinic every 5 square blocks. But it is as simple as looking in the phonebook. Back to our regular programming...
OD
I think this is important information, especially for those married mongers.
Word of mouth, particulary from this board, is far better than being at the mercy of a phone book in a rather delicate situation.
Also, has anyone used amoxicillin? As a precaution, before I would come home I use to take 500 mg 3xday for ten days.
I hate to take things off topic, but since Billspu asked... Ive seen many VD clinics in the cities, just think about it next time you are at a club, if there are 20-30 girls in a club, and they all gotta go for their monthly checkup X that by the amount of clubs in Manila... keep your eyes open around Manila and Cebu, seemed like there was a clinic every 5 square blocks. But it is as simple as looking in the phonebook. Back to our regular programming...
OD
Traveler1234
07-01-06, 22:00
I think this is important information, especially for those married mongers.
Word of mouth, particulary from this board, is far better than being at the mercy of a phone book in a rather delicate situation.
Also, has anyone used amoxicillin? As a precaution, before I would come home I use to take 500 mg 3xday for ten days.
Won't do you much good, better to stick with 10 days of doxi, or something stronger, eg levaquine 500 mg for 10-14 days or 1gm of azithromyicin.
Check cdc.org site on STD for std types an medications....
Orgasm Donor
07-01-06, 23:14
I did have some ampicillin on hand, and out of desparation I took it ( I had a week-long wait for my appt.). I did a search on the web, and saw a treatment to take 3 grams(!) first day and 500mg every day for a week.
But let me tell you, it may have slowed the progress a bit, but overall IT DIDNT DO SHIT!
The doc said I needed something stronger.
The strains they have in Asia are resistant to "fluoroquinones" (ampicillin-amoxicillin)
Aside from the soreness, the ZITHROMAX (one-time dose of 2 pills) had me almost normal in 24hrs, but note that you can still carry for over a week. I just have some healing to do cuz I suffered for over a week before getting a chance to see the doc. Im not a doctor, but I can tell you first hand. (another public service announcement from OD)
OD
Does anyone have the phone number of the Firehouse in EDSA Entertainment Complex? I need to contact a girl there.
Thanks
Steve Naive
07-07-06, 05:18
About 10:30pm I walked around Glorietta and Greenbelt to see what was available. Tired, I was not looking for action, but surveying options for Monday. There were very few ladies around.
Two ladies, walking together, approached me near Landmark (Glorietta). Early 30s, rating about 3 and 4, take both for pp3000. Sorry, ladies, no power. Took Shiela's phone number; she can send ladies from her boarding house to my room, she said. Noted for later.
Another lady on her own near Shangri-La, late 20s, also about 4, suggested pp2000. She demonstrated strong hands and I was tempted just for a back rub, but took her number instead.
Nothing going on in the vicinity of Greenbelt 3 and Cafe Havana. No eye contact. Ladies that were there seemed to be with friends, not working girls. One lady made eye contact but with a frown. I said "hello" tentatively, felt like she was glowering, moved on.
Shiela said that police had been patrolling the area and sending WGs away, because they are not supposed to be in this part of town. That's really doing me a disservice! I wonder if they are paid to do that by establishments like those on P Burgos. On the other hand I expect that if I sat at a coffee shop or Havana for long enough, one would find me.
More about Shiela in part 3 (482715
).
Steve Naive
07-07-06, 05:31
Summary: EDSA is a very good option for Makati visitors, less expensive than P Burgos area, more reliable / better quality than SW in Glorietta/Greenbelt, but not cheaper. At 8:30pm there were lots of girls to choose from. pp1000 for bar fine, plus the lady's fee, probably asking pp2000 up, and settling for less. During evening rush hour it could take up to an hour to get from Glorietta to EDSA, but by 8:30pm my taxi took only 20 minutes. Use a metered taxi (pp62+ depending on traffic), or negotiate a fare under pp100. Taxi drivers should know where "Ed-sah Complex" is, ask first. Location: Pasay ("Pah-say") City, Corner of EDSA Blvd and Roxas ("roh-hahs") Blvd, diagonally across from Heritage Hotel. EDSA Blvd is a major street across Manila including Makati.
I like mongering on foot when possible. I see more when exploring that way, too. But Makati is pedestrian-hostile, breathing the air isn't good, and greater Manila options are out of the question without a car or taxi.
I had not been to EDSA Complex before, despite several visits to Makati, because others have reported one hour in traffic during rush hour to get there. But by 8:30pm, this time, it was about 20 minutes from the hotel. The doorman "bargained" a taxi fare of pp150. The meter fare back to the hotel was pp62 (in light traffic), so I overpaid.
I was let out just past the actual EDSA Complex, and being new here, I was not sure what I was looking for. I walked into a place with girls and couches; it was empty, and decided that was a good reason to keep looking around. At another like the first I asked about takeout prices and was informed that the girls entertained in-house only. So these are Karaokes next to EDSA Complex, but not what I was looking for.
The EDSA Complex itself has one entrance-way to a dozen or so bars clustered around a courtyard. The complex and all bars are owned by the same company, so the barfine (pp1000) and drinks (pp80 for water for you, pp197 for ladydrink) are standard, at least in the ones I went to. Most of the clubs are the same style: a stage with scantily-clad girls "dancing." There are a few variations.
Compared to go-go bars in Bangkok's Sukumvit district, there is no pole, they are always facing forward, and they barely move, so it's hard to get a good look at their shape. You can't easily catch their eye to make contact, perhaps because there are lights in their faces, so you can't just call them over like in Bangkok.
I learned that EDSA pays women pp150 per evening to dance, and they give the women a commission of pp50 for lady drinks (which cost you pp197 each). Since there is not a monthly salary where missing days require the barfine to be repaid (as in Bangkok, see 480212), the lady can arrange to see you any time. You might even avoid the barfine by going to EDSA to make contacts, then make appointments for future evenings.
You can also find clones of Cialis and Viagra there. There's a booth just inside, and when I went to the toilet, the attendant offered me 4x100mg of a Viagra clone for pp1000. That's a fair price for inside a club - cheaper on the street. I didn't try these. My experience has been with other clone brands, and they have worked well, but some have seemed like they had less active ingredient than stated and the pills were noticeably smaller.
I was hustled into Casino, which didn't have gambling that I could see, aside from taking a chance with a woman. I was given a seat at the bar to watch the girls standing on the stage, barely moving. An older woman started massaging my back, and it was both good and needed. I asked the chap next to me about tips, and he said protocol was pp100 for this massage, so I let the lady go on for about 20 minutes and paid her.
Meanwhile other girls came up to talk to me. At ratings 5-6 at best, I understood why they were here and not on the stage. One was persistent, I was not interested, and I asked to pay my bill. She immediately left, but I did not (massage not over). Another took her place a few minutes later.
In the next place I was seated farther from the stage. Again, no eye contact was possible. The mama approached me and offered to send one to talk to me. There are no badges, but it worked anyway.
The lady I chose was happy to get off stage and sit with me awhile, and spoke reasonably good English. She's very pretty and young, about an 8. She cuddled a bit but she did not attempt to stimulate interest the way that Bangkok girls often do. I asked if she kissed customers and didn't get a "yes". In the end I decided that she was a starfish (nice to look at, but it just lies there) and thanked her for her time, maybe I'll see you later.
At the next place I chose a lady. I had been talking to a woman who said made me think she was the mamasan, but I don't think she was, and she wanted a tip for her involvement (as does everyone). The asking price was pp2000 for the lady (pp1000 for the bar). I countered with pp1500 and a tip if you give me good service, accepted.
Outside the hotel there are hustlers for cabs. One guy had pestered me ever since I arrived, wanted to take me to a different club, got involved when I needed to find an ATM, etc. Now he wanted me to go in the cab he recommended. But while I was trying to get rid of him, my lady flagged down a passing cab who used the meter, and off we went, pp62 to my hotel near Glorietta Mall. The hustler was pissed but I did not stay to comfort him.
In short the service was excellent and I paid her the asking price. The lady, Erica, is from the northern provinces, is poor, and has a child to support. She could not give me her phone number because her phone was at a pawn shop. She did not want to stay because she needed to call her mother immediately to tell her she now had money to buy food for the child. She did not want to tell me these things but it came out as I asked questions as to why she would not stay for the night.
But I gave her my local SMS number so we could hook up again. I learned one more important reason why she did not want to spend the night, see part 4 (482717).
Steve Naive
07-07-06, 05:34
Tuesday I was out with colleagues until 11pm and too tired to shop, so I phoned Shiela (who I met on the street Sunday, see 482707). She said a girl would be pp3000 for all night and she does not take a commission (hinting that she would like a voluntary one). I said that was too much, how about pp2000 including commission. OK, she said.
She showed up at my hotel at midnight with three ladies in tow, ranging 5-6. One was smiling more than the others. Which of you can give massage? Smiley put her hand right up and I chose her.
Shiela asked pp2000 up front. And what about tip for me? I said we agreed on pp2000 including your commission. No, no, she said, that's only for lady. I have no more cash with me. Ok, you send pp500 for me with girl in morning. Too tired to argue more so I agreed.
Back in the room, I learn that Jeny only got pp1000 from Shiela, who skimmed pp1000 for herself. Jeny isn't happy, she had been promised pp2000. Obviously Shiela lied to me AND her. I assure Jeny we will go to ATM later. I feel burned, but burning Jeny is would threaten to ruin the experience, so I cut my losses.
Jeny was a bit chubby but has a very firm body, and was cute when she smiled. She gave a fair body massage, better than most Filipina WGs. A student who does this work to help make ends meet, she did not seem real professional, thus not mechanical. She is the first girl I've had in a long time who did not trim or shave her bush. But Jeny did not want to stay all night the way I had agreed with Shiela.
I'm pissed about Shiela's lying agreement on the price negotiation, but if I paid the girl directly, Shiela would still insist on her cut. It's always better to deal directly with the girl rather than a middleman (or woman), but I would not have found Jeny otherwise. I hesitate to recommend Shiela, but will reply to PMs from senior members or others who have previously posted useful information (not questions), if you ask.
Steve Naive
07-07-06, 05:36
This is part 4 of a series of 4. Part 1 starts here: 482707
I met Erica at EDSA on Monday (see 482711) and wanted another evening with her. She was happy to arrange that with me to avoid a bar fine, except on Monday she didn't have her phone with her and didn't know the number.
The phone had been at a pawn shop, and since I paid her Monday, she got it back and SMS'ed me on Tuesday (that pp150 SMART SIM has been really handy). We made a plan for Wednesday night. I treated her like a non-pro date - starting with dinner at Greenbelt 2 (a restaurant with local food, I think called Masse or Masa something close, ground floor), conversation, walking around - because I wanted GFE. She was pleased, and reciprocated.
We had a nice time in bed, including a massage for me afterwards, and it was time to sleep.
In reply to a previous posting from me, a well-known Senior Member on Philippines threads rightly scolded me for leaving myself vulnerable - passport, money, wallet not in the safe when a girl was in the room. He also told me there was no way in hell I would follow his advice anyway, and he was right about that too. (I do not mention his name because he deleted the posting). So with Erica I learned an important lesson about protecting myself. Jim, if you are reading this, you were right, but this time I learned.
As I was going to sleep, Erica was restless, and I was vaguely aware that she had left the bed. At the same time I was beginning to get sick from the dinner and needed to go to the toilet. She was in the bathroom, I thought SMSing one of her friends, but she had a frightened look on her face, like I had caught her red-handed. It wasn't her phone in her hand, it was my wallet she was holding! She handed it to me, cowering.
This really blew my mind. Though my passport, extra cash, and tickets were safely locked away, I had left my wallet in my pants. My computer was out because I had been playing music. I put valuables in safe, computer away (up high), then sat down to have a talk with her.
Her explanation was interesting. I am only her second overnight customer because the first one led to a traumatic experience. The first guy had told her he had no girlfriend or wife. While he was in the shower, a knock came at the door and she (unwisely) answered it. In stormed a very angry Filipina who started hitting her. This lady claimed that she was the man's girlfriend, and to prove the point she opened the man's wallet and showed a picture of her with the man.
I had told her before that I had no wife or GF in Philippines (true). She said she was looking in my wallet to see if I was lying, because she was afraid of the same thing happening again. Why? Earlier in the evening when we were both looking at SMS messages she had sent me, she saw an entry for "Dang," which she said is a common name for Filipinas. I explained that Dang is a WG from Thailand, not a girlfriend, and has never been to PI.
I tend to believe her story. If she had meant to rob me, she would have been out the door rather than looking at the wallet. She might have been after my real name and address or credit card numbers, but she had no pen and paper to copy them. Still, this was a major wake-up call to me; I learned the easy way. I won't make this mistake again.
I told her some men would beat up a girl who did this (I think that would be wrong). Another reaction would be to have her leave. I decided to have her stay since my valuables were properly secured.
The rest of the night and the morning was fine, except that she kept apologizing, and the mild food poisoning running through me kinda put me out of the mood for morning sex.
Postscript: Emails from Erica indicated that she was still afraid I was angry. I assured her I was past that. Now the email from her is asking for money to visit home. I'm getting tired of being a walking ATM.
Thanks a lot for your report Steve Naive. As I will be there before the end of the year, that was very useful to read your trip.
That forum is great and people very often give me, at least for me, very good informations, I mean for any destinations I asked.
I will be in Manila nearly 2 months. I've never been to the Philippines. I plan to stay 1 month in Makati, to rent a furnished apartment, then I don't know.
As I don't really out a lot at night time, that would be great if someone could plan my timetable during the day time or just give me some advice, where to go either to pick up a girl for a few hours or to get a massage. That would be great to have the precise location and the price.
Of course I already read many reports on this forum about Makati or Manila. The result is that I am a bit lost. I know that Burgos street is interesting or LA cafe in Malate and some others places to get a massage.
Could someone make me a sum up? On this board, that would be great, so everybody could enjoy it. A sum up for every city in Metro-Manila, that would be great. Yes there is the website www.manilatonight, but they quite often don't write in English.
As I will have time, that would be great to try the possibilities of the Great Manila, I mean in others suburbs too as Pasay or Quezon or Alagang or some others.
So I think that would make it clearer and much easier for everybody, except perhaps for the experts, but there is always something new to learn, I am sure, even for the best of us.
Thanks in advance guys
Traveler1234
07-10-06, 20:18
Thanks a lot for your report Steve Naive. As I will be there before the end of the year, that was very useful to read your trip.
As I don't really out a lot at night time, that would be great if someone could plan my timetable during the day time or just give me some advice, where to go either to pick up a girl for a few hours or to get a massage. That would be great to have the precise location and the price.
Of course I already read many reports on this forum about Makati or Manila. The result is that I am a bit lost.
Thanks in advance guys
Why not use Steve's 4 section report as a starting point when you arrive, then write up/contribute a field report similar to what you're asking others to do for you?
I note Report of Distinction thread has some good tips, so not sure whether you're lost or 'just plain lazy'......
IMHO
PS - in case you really are freaking lost, let me steer you in the right direction:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=420665&postcount=878
Thanks a lot Traveler, that's exactly, what I need.
That would be good to have the same thing with massage parlors or bars in others cities, not only in Makati.
Bill Buxton
07-10-06, 20:47
you can get some great gals at p burgos st.and the area will have them around by 6 pm.the gals are also out and about just sit at matrix for an hour or so and see what you will see.believe me they will see and want to befriend you.be careful of the street hustle and **** alike.all shapes and sizes available.if you do get someone to get you a gal, no more than 100-p for a finders fee.give them the old saying that you will use them in the future if this deal pans out.they might ask for more but that's better than a blank.they will say they know the gal you pick out but most of the time they just meet and get talked into spending some time with you.many bar gals can be had for no barfine after work so get some numbers and take a nap.
just pull up a chair and watch the show.it will make it's way to you...
b.b...
Traveler1234
07-10-06, 21:12
you can get some great gals at p burgos st.and the area will have them around by 6 pm.the gals are also out and about just sit at matrix for an hour or so and see what you will see.believe me they will see and want to befriend you.be careful of the street hustle and **** alike.all shapes and sizes available.if you do get someone to get you a gal, no more than 100-p for a finders fee.give them the old saying that you will use them in the future if this deal pans out.they might ask for more but that's better than a blank.they will say they know the gal you pick out but most of the time they just meet and get talked into spending some time with you.many bar gals can be had for no barfine after work so get some numbers and take a nap.
just pull up a chair and watch the show.it will make it's way to you...
b.b...
i think you meant to address this to volpone?
Traveler1234
07-10-06, 21:12
Thanks a lot Traveler, that's exactly, what I need.
That would be good to have the same thing with massage parlors or bars in others cities, not only in Makati.
Well, at least we all know you're not lost
RTFF.....:(
Just arrived in Manila yesterday and am there for a few weeks. I'm staying in Makati near P.Burgos St. PM me if anyone would like to meet for drinks and help me expand my knowledge beyond RTFF as I have not been to the Phils before.
I spent about a week in makati not too long ago & thought i'd post some of my thoughts on the burgos bar scene. The bars I visited were:
Flamingo - my favorite since it had the best selection of girls - lots of really good looking ones. Barfined several and all were well worth it.
Bandido - Decent selection here with a few very nice looking girls. Barfined one who was real nice and fun to play with.
Bottoms - Pretty good selection of girls, but I didn't like this place since its very high pressure to buy drinks for a bunch of girls. Many of the girls come off as very slutty here also. Barfined 2 on the same night - 1 was decent looking, the other not great looking, but seemed real nasty (which I later confirmed).
Billboard - very good selection, but i barfined one cute girl who turned ot to be a runner. Maybe just bad luck.
Tickles - small club, where I was immediately deluged with girls. Didn’t like this & none of the girls were that great looking so left after one beer.
Blush - good selection of girls. Barfined one who was fairly tall with nice legs & slim but cute body. She said she was 18, but seemed very experienced & not at all shy about showing her body.
Montana - Mobbed by girls as soon as I sat down and constantly asked to buy drinks for everyone, all trying to ask the standard questions (where you from, where you stay, etc.). At first, I was so turned off by this that I thought I’d just finish my beer and leave, but one of the least overbearing of girls looked really good. Ended up barfining her (cute, slim girl with nice body). She was a bit shy at first at hotel, but pretty good once we got going. Gave me her cellphone # so i could call for more boom boom without barfine.
Cuddles - I wasn't impressed with this place so didn't stay long or barfine anyone.
That's all I can remember right now although I stopped in at 1 or 2 other bars as well but can't remember names. Also visited Angeles so I'll try to post some comments on bars there also in future.
Steve Naive
07-12-06, 18:10
Could someone make me a sum up? On this board, that would be great, so everybody could enjoy it. A sum up for every city in Metro-Manila, that would be great. Back in October 2004 I wrote and posted A Naive Guide to Punting in Makati City, version 0.5. It hasn't been updated since, though most information still applies. It is written from the perspective of what is handy for the Makati visitor, some of which is just outside Makati.
My recent experience suggests that prices have not changed much, nor locations, except that Glorietta has been less of a hunting grounds than before. Then again I could have just been there during a quiet time.
I see some people say you can have the girls from the bar without barfine after hours. That is right, but remember that most of the bargirls need to be barfined at least twice per week or they are (really) fined. If you like one and pay their barfine twice, they can and will spend the whole week with you for little extra money for as much boom boom as you like. I have always thought that a good investment.
My favourite bar is Bottoms as I like the aggressive kind. You get to see what you get. Pressure for drinks can be high in that place but if you befriend the mama and give her a nice tip they will not push too hard in my experience.
Hey guys -
I will be in Manila, staying at the Heritage Hotel near the EDSA complex.
I was wondering if it's worth it for me to make the trip to Makati? Or is EDSA a better deal?
OtherWhiteMeat
07-24-06, 09:57
Hi guys,
I'm in Makati for a couple of days and wondering if anyone else is interested in hitting up AF1 or Pegasus?
White guy here, early 30s, used to live here but haven't been back for a couple of years.
Always safer w/ a pal I think.
A friend was asking about hotels in Makati and asked about Regines and Artina. As I was typing a response, I thought it might be of some help here. If not, oh well.
I know Regines and I stayed there before. I think it was under $50 a night but I wouldn't stay there again. It wasn't very clean.
The Artina is probably the one where your friend walked into because the pictures look new. However, looking at the location, it is not walking distance to anything. You would have to take a taxi anywhere you go. I have actually been in that area and there is nothing near there except City Hall and the police station.
You may want to consider the Ortigas area. There's a 4* hotel called Richmonde Hotel for about $75-$80 a night that is around the corner from a Starbucks and about a 2-3 block walk from the Mega Mall (one of the largest malls in Manila) and 2 other malls. It is also about 5-6 blocks from yet another mall and about 4 - 5 blocks from the Call Centers.
There is also a Linden Suites which is a block from the Richmonde and about the same price and a Discovery Suites which is a block further from Linden. I don't know if you follow boxing but Discovery Suites is where Larios stayed while he was training for his fight with Manny Pacquiao. There's also a Holiday Inn another block down which is attached to a mall. They all are about the same price although I've found Discovery Suites to be a few dollars more.
The Ortigas area doesn't have much to do at night so if you like the nightlife, Makati is the place to be.
2 blocks form the Penninsula is the Mandarin Oriental. 2 blocks the other way is the Shangri-la and also 2 malls. The Oakwood is connected to the mall (Glorietta mall) which is also where a lot of American restaurants are (Outback, Tony Romas, CPK, TGIF, Hard Rock). Shangri-la is about a block away.
The Mandarin is not too close to anything either but within a safe 15 minute walk to the malls and about 3 blocks from a lot of bars and a red-light district. The Regines is considered in the red-light district. It isn't bad and it is a street that has to be driven going from Makati to Mandaluyong. Hotels are cheaper in that area. Some decent ones are Makati Prime, Oxford Suites, City Garden and Best Western Astoria. All are probably in the $40-$60 range.
Hope this helps. It probably just added to the confusion but I'll help you figure it out.
I'm still here in Makati, easy walking distance to P.Burgos. I will be here a few more weeks so anyone up for a drink or two at The Matrix?
After showing me some "casas" (aka "dormitories"), my local contact took me to the "Asian Entertainment Center" (?), a KTV bar that cost 6000pp to take the girl out. Mine was a gorgeous 19 year old with beautiful tits and a rock-hard tummy, but she was a lousy lay. Bleah! The "casa" girls could be had for 3000pp for overnight though I rather suspect the white skin tax is in effect. But some of those girls looked doable and I intend to partake when I am not so busy working. You have to know someone to be let into these places.
After the poor experience at the KTV, I pretty much have balked at paying the barfines in P.Burgos so I have not partaken there. Instead, I found a couple of girls off FilipinaHearts website, and a couple more at coffee shops. To paraphrase another poster, I would term these girls "semi-professional types pretending to be girlfriends looking for boyfriends" Have usually not paid more than 2000pp + taxi fares for overnight for these, though there were 2 girls whom I took out to dinner, then took to my bed that night. That was 1600pp for dinner and drinks (a lot of drinks), then 1500pp for each girl the next day, phrased as "I need some help for my family" or something like that. And don't forget the taxis. Service was alright, girls took their turns with me, no girl-girl action.
I haven't made it LA Cafe or to the EDSA complex or to Malate. Hope to do that soon.
Weekender 123
07-27-06, 04:08
I am planning a trip in September which will include some time in Makati (around 1 week). I do have both a question and a contribution.
Question: Hotels - I do like to stay in relatively nice hotels. I don't quite have the budget for the Shangri La, but am debating between:
1) Mandarin Oriental
2) Peninsula
3) Dusit - although this appears to be a little older for me.
Does anyone have any insight around these hotels??? I am leaning towards the Mandarin based on location to Burgos & it seems a little more modern. Any insight would be appreciated.
Contribution:
I have attached an Earth Google picture of where I believe all the hotels are relative to Burgos. I hope it is accurate, I more or less put it together by going through hotel websites, maps, etc.
If anyone could let me know about those 3 hotels it would be appreciated.
Fog Ducker
07-27-06, 04:48
The "casa" girls could be had for 3000pp for overnight though I rather suspect the white skin tax is in effect. But some of those girls looked doable and I intend to partake when I am not so busy working. You have to know someone to be let into these places.Finrod: Every hotel I know of in greater Manila has a tout outside who is linked to a casa that is within a block or so of the hotel. In Ermita I paid 2,000 pesos for an all nighter from a casa 1/2 block from LA Cafe. I'm not sure of any white or foreigner tax and did not try to negotiate down. The girls were 5-7.5 and not as hardened IMHO as the LA cafe girls.
LoveAsianWhores
07-27-06, 06:56
Billboard - very good selection, but i barfined one cute girl who turned ot to be a runner. Maybe just bad luck.
Not bad luck, just the wrong bar. Bilboard is different from all of the other bars on Burgoss. Looks the same at first glance, except the particularly cute girls around and the professional dancers. As opposed to the other bars on Burgoss, the girls are not expected to barfine customers, but are welcome to do so if they please (except for the professional dancers on the back stage). And if they do barfine, they are also not expected to put out, but again, are welcome to do so if they chose. Because of this policy, the bar attracts a lot of girls that want to make some money, but not have sex with customers. Don't sweat it however. I certainly made the same mistake when I was a newbie, as I am sure many others have. And of course, if the girl really likes you, she still may put out, especially on the second barfine (if you want to take that risk with your time and money).
I'm still here in Makati, easy walking distance to P.Burgos. I will be here a few more weeks so anyone up for a drink or two at The Matrix? Send Cebu Local a PM. He and I met for a drink the last time I was in Makati. He's a great guy and a good source for local knowledge. Good luck.
Guinness
Weekender123,
If you can afford the Peninsula or Mandarin Oriental in Makati ($80-100), then go for it. In Manila, the Pan Pacific or Diamond is a bit better at around the same price. Check out www.asiatravel.com
Finrod: Every hotel I know of in greater Manila has a tout outside who is linked to a casa that is within a block or so of the hotel. In Ermita I paid 2,000 pesos for an all nighter from a casa 1/2 block from LA Cafe. I'm not sure of any white or foreigner tax and did not try to negotiate down. The girls were 5-7.5 and not as hardened IMHO as the LA cafe girls.Your point is well taken, thank you; I just never listen to the touts on the street. My local contact who showed me the "casas" is someone given me by a pinoy friend back in the States. And again, from the way my friend talked about the rates in the past to what these particular "casas" would charge me, I strongly believe they are charging me the foreigner rate. The girls I saw were also around 5-7.
I am planning a trip in September which will include some time in Makati (around 1 week). I do have both a question and a contribution.
Question: Hotels - I do like to stay in relatively nice hotels. I don't quite have the budget for the Shangri La, but am debating between:
1) Mandarin Oriental
2) Peninsula
3) Dusit - although this appears to be a little older for me.
.....
I stayed at the Renaissance (New World) last month. I like the convenience of being close to Greenbelt and only a few minutes away to P. Burgos. The room is very plush. The bathroom has a detach shower room, separate from the tub. Next to the bed is a master console which controls all your room lightings, air temp and music. I have stayed at the Ritz and Four Seasons (regular rooms) here in the US and I’ve never seen anything close to this device.
I paid around $130/day w/o breakfast. Taxi ride to P. Burgos is about $3 round trip.
I maybe coming back in September for business and I may again get a room @ the Renaissance.
To The Point
07-29-06, 01:14
I stayed at the Renaissance (New World) last month. I like the convenience of being close to Greenbelt and only a few minutes away to P. Burgos. The room is very plush. The bathroom has a detach shower room, separate from the tub. Next to the bed is a master console which controls all your room lightings, air temp and music. I have stayed at the Ritz and Four Seasons (regular rooms) here in the US and I’ve never seen anything close to this device.
I paid around $130/day w/o breakfast. Taxi ride to P. Burgos is about $3 round trip.
I maybe coming back in September for business and I may again get a room @ the Renaissance.I prefer to stay at the Dusit as it is an excellent property, you can get a good rate often if booked through a broker over the internet ($55. a night at times), and you receive coupons for a excellent breakfast buffet. The rate for your room is the same for single or double occupancy, so when you check in be sure to check in as Mr. & Mrs. James Doe. This way you can take your girl for breakfast in the morning as the front desk will provide you 2 coupons. All the properties you requested information on are nice properties.
I am considering Dusit, intercontinental or Mandarine oriental hotel. Does anyone know if these are guest friendly.
Last year I stayed at Hyatt Regency. It is quite nice. EDSA complex is next door and unlike Heritage hotel you dont need to cross that busy dangerous street to get to the EDSA complex but they charged me $20 for the chick I was with.
badboy27, dusit has been guest friendly for several mongers staying there.
i'm staying in the somerset olympia serviced apartments. it's been guest friendly so far for my internet chat girl. the room is nice enough and has a good view onto makati avenue and the park across the street. it's next to peninsula hotel and walking distance to glorietta and all that stuff in one direction, and burgos street and all that stuff the other way. one problem is this place suffers from a similar bizarre entry setup as cebu midtown. enter, down stairs, up elevator....also the breakfast is mediocre. the gym is half ass and the pool is closed for repairs at this time. there is a jacuzzi next to it that you can use. all in all for us$78++ i would rather stay at one of the 5-star places for just a few dollars extra. the problem is that it can be hard to book dusit, peninsula, et al on short notice.
the first girl i met here has been a good find. she's the kind of moral obfurep001or that suits my purposes just fine. she herself is economical with the truth about her situation so i don't feel the need to disclose much to her either. most importantly she's a tiger in bed.
i'll be here for a few days, hanging with this girl and others, as well as friends i use to work with in the middle east.
Bill Buxton
07-31-06, 17:04
I am considering Dusit, intercontinental or Mandarine oriental hotel. Does anyone know if these are guest friendly.
Last year I stayed at Hyatt Regency. It is quite nice. EDSA complex is next door and unlike Heritage hotel you dont need to cross that busy dangerous street to get to the EDSA complex but they charged me $20 for the chick I was with.
Have your gal check in with you and you can get the "local" rate here if you say it is your asawa (wife).The price is half around 50 us dollars...
B.B...
Stayed at the Dusit for 2 nights when i arrived and was unimpressed compared to say Hyatt or Pan Pacific.
Older rooms, internet wouldnt work in the room, they wouldnt help you in getting regulat taxis, they want you to take their taxis to LA Cafe at 300-400 a ride.
On the positive side nice lobby and nice breakfast
Altered Ego
08-01-06, 22:43
Hi everyone,
(First of all I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum, it has helped me a lot.)
Does anyone know of any good places to buy lingerie, sexy underwear, etc, in Makati or Manila? I don't suppose there are any shops selling actual 'adult products'?
Many thanks in anticipation and have a nice day.
Altered Ego
Vin Zoolander
08-02-06, 01:52
Hi everyone,
(First of all I just wanted to say thanks to everyone who contributes to this forum, it has helped me a lot.)
Does anyone know of any good places to buy lingerie, sexy underwear, etc, in Makati or Manila? I don't suppose there are any shops selling actual 'adult products'?
Many thanks in anticipation and have a nice day.
Altered EgoDude, you can head down to Metrowalk around Ortigas area. There is a shop there selling all those kind of stuff that you're looking for.
Happy buying!
Cheers!
I barfined a pretty girl from Billboards. Killer face with a nice 26yo body. Paid 3K bf and 3K tip for her. She hung out until I had to kick her out in the morning to catch my flight.
My question is "did I over pay" ? Don't get me wrong, it was worth it and she was great. Just don't want to F&$k up the market on future trips.
Peskadot
Orgasm Donor
08-03-06, 15:47
I paid 3000 bf for 2 girls from Banditos
I did not have to bargain, the mamasan bargained with me.
you overpaid.
But if you read my other posts, you will see I got more than I had bargained for! haha!
OD
There is a multirate structure in Makati, Wild West, Plamingos, Mogumbo and Banditos all charge 2000 P. Most other bars charge 3,000P and a few 4,000P. Depending on how busy the bar is the Mamasans need to make thier quota and if things are slow they will just offer the reduced rate without being asked. If business is just OK they are willing to take the cost of the ladies drinks that you have purchased off the total barfine (i.e. 2 drinks at 300P gets you 600 P reduction). If business is good then no discounts, After all it's a "market" driven business.
The result is no one overpaid and no one underpaid they just went to different bars That's All
Jazzy Daddy
08-03-06, 22:00
I paid 3000 bf for 2 girls from Banditos
I did not have to bargain, the mamasan bargained with me.
you overpaid.
But if you read my other posts, you will see I got more than I had bargained for! haha!
OD
I was there in March and gave my cell phone # to two hotties they called me when they finished their shift and came over to my hotel for an absolutely fun, fun time, gave them each ps1000 and we all were happy.
Bill Buxton
08-04-06, 00:34
I have stayed at many in the area and I do like Sunette tower,and also CITY GARDEN.C.G. has a great location and is quiet and the rooms are nice clean and great beds.I do not need 5 stars and most 5 stars in the pi are 3 stars in the way of service compared to the states.
The access is good to all the bars on P. B.STREET, and they never say a thing about gals wanting to visit.They also have a good breakfast buffet in the morning.Safe clean and good location 2 banks within 60 and 150 feet from the front door.
Sunette Tower is sort of middle of the road.I know you can book for a month at around 600 US and they have king bed,bath with tub,living room and dining room kitchen combo.REF,plates,silverwhare,glases,everything your little honey needs to keep you both happy.This is a good place in my opinion for longer stays and not like a 1 room hotel.Cable tv in both hotels aircon and S.T. Is clean and no bugs like others I have looked at.
Both places are 3 minutes walk from FLAMINGO,MATRIX,and the rest..
PLAY SAFE,BE SMART,GET ALL YOU CAN,
B.B...
This is on a side street off of Kalayaan Ave near P.Burgos St. If you are coming from The Matrix on P.Burgos St, then head toward Kalayaan Ave, turn right there, crossing the street, then look for it to your left, two streets down. Very easy walking distance from City Garden and the other hotels in the immediate area. If you're there at night, look for the blue neon sign down the side street. I thought this place was a KTV so I had not bothered to walk up and check it out, but no it's not a KTV, it's an MP and it was even mentioned in this thread, but that was awhile ago when I got around to searching for it when a friend mentioned this place to me.
So, here's an update on the pricing: 1500pp entry and 1500pp to the girl for massage and FS. Keep in mind that was during the day, I got there at 1pm this afternoon (Friday). YMMV as the previous postings in the thread seem to indicate different pricing depending on the time of day.
Selection was OK, about 15-20 girls, mostly 5's to 7's. In spite of my usual instinct not to pick the prettiest girl in the house, I picked a pretty and petite spinner named Bianca, #M. About 5-1, 95#, b/c cups, nice nipples. Not sure why she didn't have a regular number like the other girls. Her English is very limited, but I got out of her that's she's 22 and has been in Manila for 3 years. Go figure.
The massage was quite good, she has strong hands for her size, then CBJ and FS, some light kissing. She had a slight odor from her pussy so I did not try DATY, but otherwise I left very satisfied and was happy to part with the extra 1500pp.
Dashing Don
08-04-06, 18:28
I visited PDP for the first time also a few weeks ago. If you need to get laid in the middle of the day its a great alternative to the LA Cafe which is a daunting ride in midday traffic from Makati. Casas are another daytime alternative but as I can never remember their addresses and they always seem to be off the beaten track, that puts me at the mercy of the cabbie and all the attendant bs about the commission. Thats why I dont use them.
PDP is a great alternative. I read about it first on this board and knew that it was in the Burgos area but it took two attempts to find it. No one on Burgos knew of it, or maybe they just wanted me to go to their place. Anyway, a trike driver on Kalayaan showed me.
Same set up as described by Finrod. There were only about six girls in the fishbowl on a Sunday afternoon. 1500 for the room and 1500 for the girl, and the guy at the entrance cautioned me that she gets paid after, not before. As I recall, the time allowed is 90 minutes.
I had a nice time and finished and paid the girl her 1500. She was attractive and we started chatting. Pretty soon I was interested in doing her again which I did, so I gave her an additional 1K. We were there over two hours and the management never bothered us. Nice place and well run. Highly recommended.
Don
Dashing Don,
Thanks for your report on PDP. You filled in the extra details I missed quite nicely. Yes I'll go back if I feel the need for midday relief.
About the casas, I had only thought of them for taking a girl out for overnight. The ones that Jay-R took me to charged 3000pp for that. I don't remember the streets they were on, but I think they were near Osmena Highway and Puyat Ave. I also have a vague memory of Jay-R saying there's a pad nearby if one didn't want to take the girl back to the hotel. I have no idea what the pricing for that would be. Jay-R seems reliable as long as you're not asking him about something that has nothing in it for him so I might ask him about that. Or you can call him if you have his number.
I took a girl from one of those casas last week. Selection was about 15 4's to 7's on a Sunday night. You pay the house before you leave. The manager wanted a 100pp tip. The girl was nice in a next door way, the action was adequate, but she wanted a tip in the morning. I gave her 500pp and showed her that's all I had on me and she seemed OK at that point.
I've posted a few times here regarding PDP and I have been there several times. I always stay at the Mandarin and it's a short walk from there and I'll stop by at times on my way out to wherever I'm going.
The rates vary depending on the time. IIRC, it is 1500 from noon to 6pm, 2000 from 6pm to 2am and 1200 from 2am to noon. 1500 tip if it is 1500 entrance or less and 2000 if the entrance is 2000.
They also have twin service available but I'm not sure of the room fees for that.
Cebu Local
08-06-06, 00:59
Dude, you can head down to Metrowalk around Ortigas area. There is a shop there selling all those kind of stuff that you're looking for.
Happy buying!
Cheers!Actually there is a shop called Better then Bare 1 block from Greenbelt located at the Ground floor of BSA Mansions,Benavidez street,Legaspi Village.Makati Sexy Lingerie and Adult toys
Survival Camp
08-10-06, 08:57
First time going to Philippines. Will be staying in New World, Makati. All bachelors. One week. Need advice.
Where to hook up girls/girfriends?
Average price ranging?
Please advise all professionals.
Hey guys,
Is $49/night normal for the Copacabana during the low season?
Because if so, I would rather stay at the Hyatt Regency for $72/night(although they do charge $20 to bring a girl in from what I hear).
Pointpanic
08-13-06, 23:45
First time going to Philippines. Will be staying in New World, Makati. All bachelors. One week. Need advice.
Where to hook up girls/girfriends?
Average price ranging?
Please advise all professionals.There are others that can give you advice but I have been to Manila three times and stayed in Makati on those visits. On Burgos Street in Makati you must go to Flamingos at about 8PM. It will have 30 or 40 or more girls. I think you will enjoy it.
One night you should go to Airforce One on Roxas Blvd-close to airport. It has some fine looking girls/women.
One night you should try the EDSA bars. It is on Roxas as well. There are about eight bars and one or some may have some lookers. It is cheaper than Burgos Street bars.
There are other bars on Burgos that may have lookers, including Dimples and Bottoms(next to one another), Bandidos.
Then one night you should do the Ermita Street bars, starting with LA Cafe. There are several bars there, including the Amazonia. When I went to Manila in 1992 Ermita was the home of the bars with girls on the stage.
First time going to Philippines. Will be staying in New World, Makati. All bachelors. One week. Need advice.
Where to hook up girls/girfriends?
Average price ranging?
Please advise all professionals.
Isn't the New World now the Renaissance? If so, I believe it is walking distance to Phoenix 1. I will be staying there for a few days at the end of August before I move over to my regular Mandarin.
Since I'm a Marriott Platinum member and it is a Marriott property, I'll take the points and upgrades there. Also, since the staff doesn't know me there like at a few other hotels, there will be no problems bringing my regular or others there. Although, I seem to recall reading something about the staff harrassing people for bringing guests. I'm paying the $5 or $10 more a night for 2 so I don't have to deal with it.
Any other experieces here?
Yes, New World is now the Renaissance, but most locals still call it New World. In particular, taxi drivers don't seem to recognize the Renaissance name.
I'm a pretty regular guest and I've never heard of anyone being harrassed for bringing back a companion. Depending on the time of night, your general appearance and the appearance of your companion, they may ask the girl to register. But that's it. Just make sure she brings ID.
As for action, the Renaissance is directly across from Greenbelt Mall (Starbucks, Cafe Havana are well known pick-up places), Hard Rock Cafe in nearby Glorietta (also a big pick-up place) and Burgos Street is a short ten minute drive.
Isn't the New World now the Renaissance? If so, I believe it is walking distance to Phoenix 1. I will be staying there for a few days at the end of August before I move over to my regular Mandarin.
Since I'm a Marriott Platinum member and it is a Marriott property, I'll take the points and upgrades there. Also, since the staff doesn't know me there like at a few other hotels, there will be no problems bringing my regular or others there. Although, I seem to recall reading something about the staff harrassing people for bringing guests. I'm paying the $5 or $10 more a night for 2 so I don't have to deal with it.
Any other experieces here?
Asian Rain
08-14-06, 13:13
Isn't the New World now the Renaissance? Since I'm a Marriott Platinum member and it is a Marriott property, I'll take the points and upgrades there. Also, since the staff doesn't know me there like at a few other hotels, there will be no problems bringing my regular or others there. Although, I seem to recall reading something about the staff harrassing people for bringing guests. I'm paying the $5 or $10 more a night for 2 so I don't have to deal with it.
The policies at this monger-hostile hotel have not changed one bit... Although there are some who can quote exceptions to this rule (i.e. I got past security), the hotel policy which is displayed at the registration counter and GENERALLY ENFORCED is as follows: you will have to stop at the front desk and fully register your guest (she will even have to sign her name). Not only is this an embarassment when you have to do this in front of other guests, it takes time - especially the prudish ladies at the counter will be extra slow about registering your friend. And if your girl happens to have forgotten her ID, she will be refused entry - no exceptions.
Why deal with such hassle when there are many very girl-friendly hotels in the area? Anyway, for whatever its worth, here are my previous posts on the matter:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=399504#post399504
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=399391#post399391
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368727#post368727
Stay wherever you like, but don't be surprised when you are disappointed at this place. Enjoy MNL, AR+
Cebu Local
08-14-06, 23:04
The hotel is the preffered hotel of choice for US military personnel and other goverment agencies.That is the reason for the strict security at the hotel which is one of the tightest among the hotels in Manila
the enforcement of new world's policy at a given moment may have to do with appearances (or maybe even a bit of reverse racism) as much as anything else. i stay at new world about 50-75 nights a year, so perhaps that is why i often get a pass on registering my guests. but i have never seen a hostile attitude towards mongerers. they make many people register their visitors, which is primarily for the safety of the guests (and to try and maintain the image a bit as well). i've registered girls about 2 dozen times and never gotten a prudish look or anything in the way of disapproval (and there were times when i should have). personally, i am more bothered by having to pass through the metal detector, which even after all these trips reminds me i'm not in kansas anymore.
if you are concerned about getting stopped to register the girl (i.e. and being seen by coworkers in the lobby), have her wait outside for five minutes, head up to the room yourself and then have her come in separately, register and then head up.
but ar+ is right about the id. no id and she won't get in. that, however, is so the hotel doesn't get slapped for allowing **** girls into the hotel. they can at least claim that they checked id (even if it is some bogus, 100 peso joke of an id picked up on the corner)
The policies at this monger-hostile hotel have not changed one bit... Although there are some who can quote exceptions to this rule (i.e. I got past security), the hotel policy which is displayed at the registration counter and GENERALLY ENFORCED is as follows: you will have to stop at the front desk and fully register your guest (she will even have to sign her name). Not only is this an embarassment when you have to do this in front of other guests, it takes time - especially the prudish ladies at the counter will be extra slow about registering your friend. And if your girl happens to have forgotten her ID, she will be refused entry - no exceptions.
Why deal with such hassle when there are many very girl-friendly hotels in the area? Anyway, for whatever its worth, here are my previous posts on the matter:
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=399504#post399504
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=399391#post399391
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=368727#post368727
Stay wherever you like, but don't be surprised when you are disappointed at this place. Enjoy MNL, AR+
Those are the reports I remember...
I'll be staying there for a few days at the end of the month before moving to the Mandarin so I'll post my results here.
Husky Babalin
08-15-06, 03:27
wow, what a scene! last nite at amazon the commandos arrived . about 15 heavily armed police entered amazon. after about 15 minutes they escorted about half of the waitresses and a group of women that i did not see in the bar. one girl actually did not have a shirt on as they loaded everyone into a commandered jeepney. some girls did not seem concerned, others were quite shooken. i can't be 100% sure but i believe there was at least one monger in the group. other members that are here now maybe able to shed more light on this subject. they also went into the the doormans podium and checked his revolver. i also heard that la got raided a couple of days ago, maybe a week!
one side note, as i was standing outside the cutest little honey stood next to me and was trying to hang on me , she was adorable but really looked ****. i told her to stop hanging on me , because i did not want to end up in the paddy wagon! larter she showed me id that was offical (passport), and she had plenty of stories about her trips to hk and tokyo as a dancer.
its a hard to believe why guys go for these ****, because there are so many girls that are well into their 20s, and they really look 17. oh yeah incidently i am not falling for any fake ids.
also , went onto j-four at 1042 cortada st in ermita. here there is 15 girls all sitting in a row in a rundown karioke (if you could call it that). girls range from about 20 to 26. mgr ask for $2000 bar-fine but $1500 does the trick for the nite. of course a tip is very important to the girl, because i beleive they get $500 from bf!
short time hotel recommendation for hotel sogo at 2120 mabini st, malate. $360 for 2 hr promo rate. small room for that cost , but it worked 2 times last nite.
I spent many years as a hotel GM in PI. One of the main reasons most international branded hotels require registering "visitors" is because of the rip off artists. Drugged, hotel guests loose Rolex watches, Nikon cameras, wallets, passports and the like. I always required registration for the protection of our guests but also required it be done with discretion.
Further, when the visitor left the hotel I required reception to call the guest, "Mr. XXX, your guest is leaving is everything OK?" to ensure there was no problem. It is not fun to read in one of the many local rags (and they love to print stories about it) about a customer being ripped off in your hotel by a local prostitute.
I will not comment on any other customer related issues as that is not the issue. If the New World has service problems aside from this which would cause someone to select another hotel, so be it.
Cebu Local also makes a valid point regarding the hotel's military business.
Not taking sides here, just want to shed some light on "why".
ES
Man In Japan
08-16-06, 03:24
‘untouchable’ vice den raided
by : ferds sevilla
“pasukin ninyo! wala akong pakialam kung sino ang mga patong diyan ... maski tagarito sa city hall. sisibakin ko sila!”
thus was the stern order of manila mayor lito atienza to senior supt. danilo abarzosa, manila police district oic director, leading to the raid of a notorious ermita bar saturday night. abarzosa led two mpd units and swooped down on l.a. cafe on m. h. del pilar st., rounding up about 100 suspected prostitutes.
those apprehended are said to be “top of the line” among thousands of call girls operating in the resurgent red-light district of manila.
l.a. cafe has been considered “untouchable,” allegedly protected by policemen, military officials, and some city hall insiders who are on the payroll of the club operators.
certain media personalities are also on the take, police sources averred.
due to its strong backing, l.a. cafe has over the years reportedly operated with impunity as a front of prostitution, illegal drugs den, and a haven for other nefarious activities.
“mounting complaints have reached the office of mayor atienza, claiming that prostitutes, pimps and shabu vendors abound in the establishment,” said senior insp. rene de jesus, chief of the mpd detective beat patrol.
de jesus deployed undercover female police officers and found many “very young pick-up girls.”
“talaga namang mukhang mga may gatas pa sa labi at virgin quality. kawawa naman ang mga batang ’yan na nai-exploit ng mga sindikato,” he said.
the bar owners, identified as kirshner and jonathan turf, were not around during the police raid.
the bar’s assistant manager, ermilinda viray, 30, who was held along with seven “undocumented” waitresses, strongly denied the allegations against the establishment.
“gawa-gawa lang ’yan ng mga naiinggit na competitor namin,” viray said.
l.a. cafe is just one block away from the mpd sta. monica precinct and two kilometers away from mpd station 5.
late last year, three professed call girls complained to the police they were picked up at l.a. cafe, then gang-raped by a group of arab students.
the last time l.a. cafe was raided was in late 2005. it was conducted by the mpd task force galugad under chief insp. alex yanquiling jr., who apparently earned the ire of higher officials such that his promotion and those of his men were frozen.
on saturday night, l.a. cafe was jampacked with more than 500 people, including tourists of diverse nationalities.
the undermanned police raiders could not effectively search every nook and cranny of the bar.
alleged drug dealers supposedly slipped through the backdoor.
at least 200 other pick-up girls found hanging out at the bar could not be accommodated aboard the six jeepneys hired by police to haul them to the mpd headquarters on united nations avenue.
those apprehended were reportedly of minor age and had no verifiable identification documents.
people's tonight
8/14/2006 18:10 pm
cop [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) hooker
by : ferds sevilla
katie (real name withheld), 19, prostitute, thought she was jaded to the ways of her wild and wicked clients. until she met a cop who shattered whatever faith she had left in men, and god.
the maniac thrashed the terrified hooker, then poured wine on her gaping wounds while he poked a gun at her sex organ. it was a sadist’s demented view of a good time. “pagod na pagod na ako!,” katie cried as she endured the beastly sex and torture. yet the louder she cried, the more her tormentor smiled with satisfaction.
sodomy spiced with injury. blood and battery. a painful orgy with merciless hands and a cold gun. these were just among the perversions that katie supposedly endured for hours in the mercy of her [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) inside a motel in sta. mesa, manila.
“ang baboy. kung anu-ano ang ginawa at pinagawa niya sa akin. siya raw ‘yung si pigoy big brother,” katie told people’s tonight.
katie was among the 100 suspected prostitutes rounded up saturday night by manila police district operatives from the l.a. café bar on m. h. del pilar and r. salas sts., ermita, manila, on orders of mayor lito atienza.
the teen hooker, known at the bar as kit-kat, is a self-supporting second-year customs administration student. this, according to her identification card.
“ito lang naman po ang mapagkakakitaan ko ng sapat para maisulong ko ang pag-aaral ko at ng kapatid ko. praktikal lang,” katie said.
katie was with a korean client outside the manila hotel on roxas blvd. three weeks ago when the uniformed cop pounced on them.
“mali raw po ang ginagawa namin. malambing kasi ‘yung korean na kasama ko. sabi ng pulis prostitution daw ‘yun at kailangang dalhin kami sa headquarters,” katie recalled.
the korean asked how he can settle the “case.”
the officer allegedly instructed the korean to pay for his time and all the “trouble” he went through in tracking them down.
the korean rushed to his manila hotel suite and got at least u.s. $2,000, which he gave to the officer. the policeman warned the foreigner not tell anything to anybody or else he will not ever get out of the country.
the officer reportedly refused to release katie.
katie alleged the policeman took her to a car at the parking lot in the back of the mpd headquarters on u.n. ave.
“pag ‘di raw ako nagpa-kuwan, ikukulong daw ako at sama-sama raw ‘yung mga babae’t lalaking preso. pipilahan daw tiyak ako, sabi n’ya,” katie told people’s tonight.
she said the policeman then took her to nightmare motel.
“kasuka-suka ang mga pinaggagawa n’ya sa akin. kinunan pa ako ng picture sa cellphone. gustong kunin ‘yung cellphone ko, nagmaka-awa lang ako. ako na lang ang nagbayad sa motel at taxi,” katie said.
katie said she met the korean at l.a. cafe, where very young, pretty *****s are reportedly available. the bar’s managers have belied allegations that the establishment is a haven for prostitution and illegal drugs.
“hindi kami kayang ipasara ni mayor dahil wala silang mahuhuling illegal dito,” a bar security oic said.
people's tonight
8/15/2006 20:18 pm
manila cops, city hall execs in sex payola
by : ferds sevilla
how much is sleazy sex in ermita and malate?
beneath the nickel-and-dime deals between hookers and their customers allegedly lies a multimillion-peso protection racket involving manila city hall insiders and manila police district officers.
for kinky play, they have to pay. this, as people’s tonight gathered that the recent raid on l.a. café was just the tip of the payola grime in the city.
sources said the city hall officers and mpd officers assigned to the special operations group (sog) allegedly rake in at least p100,000 in “protection money” weekly from “sex” lords in the red-light district.
upon learning of the alleged payoff scheme, mayor lito atienza immediately ordered a raid at the l.a. café, located on m.h. del pilar st., ermita.
atienza also directed mpd’s officer-in-charge director sr. supt. danilo abarzosa to intensify the police campaign against prostitution, illegal drugs and loose firearms.
“zero tolerance is what we will enforce as far as illegal vice is concerned. alamin natin kung sino ang may proteksiyon, ipakukulong natin,” atienza said.
mpd’s detective beat patrol chief sr. insp. rene de jesus, who led the raid, said the police will recommend the bar’s closure for reportedly serving as a front of prostitution.
police rounded up 100 suspected pickup girls during the raid.
“baka ’yang si (mayor) atienza at mga alipores n’ya ang ipakulong namin. sige, subukan nilang ipasara kami. what they’re doing is illegal.”
thus dared an irate employee of a ermita bar raided by manila police district operatives saturday night.
l.a. café operators vehemently denied being a front for paid sex and a haven for illegal drugs.
“ang mga babaeng pumapasok sa amin ay lahat customers. wala kaming control sa kanila paglabas nila,” said ermilinda viray, 30, l.a. cafe assistant manager.
“mounting complaints reached mayor atienza, alleging that l.a. café is one of the untouchable establishments in the area,” sr. insp. de jesus told tonight.
a long list of city hall officials, policemen, military and even some “media personalities” are reportedly on the payroll of the manila’s vice.
a letter-complaint stated that operatives of mpd station 5 are also on the take.
l.a. café also reportedly employs several cops as bouncers.
insp. cesar teneros, of the sog at city hall, denied his team is involved in any protection racket.
“kasinungalingan! e, ’di sana mayaman na ako. kakarag-karag nga ’yung kotse ko, e. trabaho lang kami,” teneros said.
people's tonight
8/16/2006 20:14 pm
I cannot find news of the supposed LA Cafe/Amazonia raid anywhere else on the internet. And why is it posted in the Makati thread?
Cebu Local
08-16-06, 15:50
‘untouchable’ vice den raided
by : ferds sevilla
“pasukin ninyo! wala akong pakialam kung sino ang mga patong diyan ... maski tagarito sa city hall. sisibakin ko sila!”
raid it no matter whoever in city hall is protecting it i will get rid of them
thus was the stern order of manila mayor lito atienza to senior supt. danilo abarzosa, manila police district oic director, leading to the raid of a notorious ermita bar saturday night. abarzosa led two mpd units and swooped down on l.a. cafe on m. h. del pilar st., rounding up about 100 suspected prostitutes.
those apprehended are said to be “top of the line” among thousands of call girls operating in the resurgent red-light district of manila.
l.a. cafe has been considered “untouchable,” allegedly protected by policemen, military officials, and some city hall insiders who are on the payroll of the club operators.
certain media personalities are also on the take, police sources averred.
due to its strong backing, l.a. cafe has over the years reportedly operated with impunity as a front of prostitution, illegal drugs den, and a haven for other nefarious activities.
“mounting complaints have reached the office of mayor atienza, claiming that prostitutes, pimps and shabu vendors abound in the establishment,” said senior insp. rene de jesus, chief of the mpd detective beat patrol.
de jesus deployed undercover female police officers and found many “very young pick-up girls.”
“talaga namang mukhang mga may gatas pa sa labi at virgin quality. kawawa naman ang mga batang ’yan na nai-exploit ng mga sindikato,” he said.
the girls looked really young its a pity they are exploited by a syndicate
the bar owners, identified as kirshner and jonathan turf, were not around during the police raid.
the bar’s assistant manager, ermilinda viray, 30, who was held along with seven “undocumented” waitresses, strongly denied the allegations against the establishment.
“gawa-gawa lang ’yan ng mga naiinggit na competitor namin,” viray said.
it is all the work of our competitors
l.a. cafe is just one block away from the mpd sta. monica precinct and two kilometers away from mpd station 5.
late last year, three professed call girls complained to the police they were picked up at l.a. cafe, then gang-raped by a group of arab students.
the last time l.a. cafe was raided was in late 2005. it was conducted by the mpd task force galugad under chief insp. alex yanquiling jr., who apparently earned the ire of higher officials such that his promotion and those of his men were frozen.
on saturday night, l.a. cafe was jampacked with more than 500 people, including tourists of diverse nationalities.
the undermanned police raiders could not effectively search every nook and cranny of the bar.
alleged drug dealers supposedly slipped through the backdoor.
at least 200 other pick-up girls found hanging out at the bar could not be accommodated aboard the six jeepneys hired by police to haul them to the mpd headquarters on united nations avenue.
those apprehended were reportedly of minor age and had no verifiable identification documents.
people's tonight
8/14/2006 18:10 pm
cop [CodeWord124] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord124) hooker
by : ferds sevilla
katie (real name withheld), 19, prostitute, thought she was jaded to the ways of her wild and wicked clients. until she met a cop who shattered whatever faith she had left in men, and god.
the maniac thrashed the terrified hooker, then poured wine on her gaping wounds while he poked a gun at her sex organ. it was a sadist’s demented view of a good time. “pagod na pagod na ako!,i was really tired” katie cried as she endured the beastly sex and torture. yet the louder she cried, the more her tormentor smiled with satisfaction.
sodomy spiced with injury. blood and battery. a painful orgy with merciless hands and a cold gun. these were just among the perversions that katie supposedly endured for hours in the mercy of her [CodeWord126] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord126) inside a motel in sta. mesa, manila.
what a pig he made me do so many kinky things
“ang baboy. kung anu-ano ang ginawa at pinagawa niya sa akin. siya raw ‘yung si pigoy big brother,” katie told people’s tonight.
katie was among the 100 suspected prostitutes rounded up saturday night by manila police district operatives from the l.a. café bar on m. h. del pilar and r. salas sts., ermita, manila, on orders of mayor lito atienza.
the teen hooker, known at the bar as kit-kat, is a self-supporting second-year customs administration student. this, according to her identification card.
i am doing this to support the education of my brother and myself
“ito lang naman po ang mapagkakakitaan ko ng sapat para maisulong ko ang pag-aaral ko at ng kapatid ko. praktikal lang,” katie said.
katie was with a korean client outside the manila hotel on roxas blvd. three weeks ago when the uniformed cop pounced on them.
he said what we were doing was wrong that was prostitution and he had to bring us in
“mali raw po ang ginagawa namin. malambing kasi ‘yung korean na kasama ko. sabi ng pulis prostitution daw ‘yun at kailangang dalhin kami sa headquarters,” katie recalled.
the korean asked how he can settle the “case.”
the officer allegedly instructed the korean to pay for his time and all the “trouble” he went through in tracking them down.
the korean rushed to his manila hotel suite and got at least u.s. $2,000, which he gave to the officer. the policeman warned the foreigner not tell anything to anybody or else he will not ever get out of the country.
the officer reportedly refused to release katie.
katie alleged the policeman took her to a car at the parking lot in the back of the mpd headquarters on u.n. ave.
he threatened to have me jailed ang gang raped if did not have sex with him
“pag ‘di raw ako nagpa-kuwan, ikukulong daw ako at sama-sama raw ‘yung mga babae’t lalaking preso. pipilahan daw tiyak ako, sabi n’ya,” katie told people’s tonight.
she said the policeman then took her to nightmare motel.
after he raped me he made me pay for the motel and the taxi
“kasuka-suka ang mga pinaggagawa n’ya sa akin. kinunan pa ako ng picture sa cellphone. gustong kunin ‘yung cellphone ko, nagmaka-awa lang ako. ako na lang ang nagbayad sa motel at taxi,” katie said.
katie said she met the korean at l.a. cafe, where very young, pretty *****s are reportedly available. the bar’s managers have belied allegations that the establishment is a haven for prostitution and illegal drugs.
no matter what the mayor does he cannot have us closed
“hindi kami kayang ipasara ni mayor dahil wala silang mahuhuling illegal dito,” a bar security oic said.
people's tonight
8/15/2006 20:18 pm
manila cops, city hall execs in sex payola
by : ferds sevilla
how much is sleazy sex in ermita and malate?
beneath the nickel-and-dime deals between hookers and their customers allegedly lies a multimillion-peso protection racket involving manila city hall insiders and manila police district officers.
for kinky play, they have to pay. this, as people’s tonight gathered that the recent raid on l.a. café was just the tip of the payola grime in the city.
sources said the city hall officers and mpd officers assigned to the special operations group (sog) allegedly rake in at least p100,000 in “protection money” weekly from “sex” lords in the red-light district.
upon learning of the alleged payoff scheme, mayor lito atienza immediately ordered a raid at the l.a. café, located on m.h. del pilar st., ermita.
atienza also directed mpd’s officer-in-charge director sr. supt. danilo abarzosa to intensify the police campaign against prostitution, illegal drugs and loose firearms.
“zero tolerance is what we will enforce as far as illegal vice is concerned. alamin natin kung sino ang may proteksiyon, ipakukulong natin,” atienza said.
mpd’s detective beat patrol chief sr. insp. rene de jesus, who led the raid, said the police will recommend the bar’s closure for reportedly serving as a front of prostitution.
police rounded up 100 suspected pickup girls during the raid.
we will have mayor atienza and his people jailed they dont dare close us
“baka ’yang si (mayor) atienza at mga alipores n’ya ang ipakulong namin. sige, subukan nilang ipasara kami. what they’re doing is illegal.”
thus dared an irate employee of a ermita bar raided by manila police district operatives saturday night.
l.a. café operators vehemently denied being a front for paid sex and a haven for illegal drugs.
the girls who enter are customers we cannot control their behavior
“ang mga babaeng pumapasok sa amin ay lahat customers. wala kaming control sa kanila paglabas nila,” said ermilinda viray, 30, l.a. cafe assistant manager.
“mounting complaints reached mayor atienza, alleging that l.a. café is one of the untouchable establishments in the area,” sr. insp. de jesus told tonight.
a long list of city hall officials, policemen, military and even some “media personalities” are reportedly on the payroll of the manila’s vice.
a letter-complaint stated that operatives of mpd station 5 are also on the take.
l.a. café also reportedly employs several cops as bouncers.
insp. cesar teneros, of the sog at city hall, denied his team is involved in any protection racket.
“kasinungalingan! e, ’di sana mayaman na ako. kakarag-karag nga ’yung kotse ko, e. trabaho lang kami,” teneros said.
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8/16/2006 20:14 pmtranslation for none tagalog speakers provided
LoveAsianWhores
08-17-06, 04:41
it was a surprise to read about la cafe. most surprising is that jurassic, right next door, is a full on angeles city style bar with go go dancers and a bar fine. obviously, this has nothing to do with prostitution and everything to do with money. there are two likley reasons for the raid. first, the major was not getting his share of the action, so he ordered the raid to send a message. or second, a competitor paid the major for the raid. either way, everything will be as it was in a very short time. a few of the girls might be scared away for a while, and some permanently, but there are so many, what's the difference. in case anyone is worried, there is absolutely no way that la cafe will close. too much money involved, and too little evidence. while major lim did close all of the bars about 30 years ago, they were the gogo bars, and the "regular" bars like la cafe remained, or reopened shortly afterwoods (old timers, correct me if i am wrong). maybe this will also be a wakeup call for some of the questionable activities that la cafe started allowing in last year or so. mainly, the mamasans that are clearly employed by the bar. "clearly", because i have seen a list of them that the upstairs staff has so they know not to charge them entrance. some even wear badges indicating that they are in charge of the girls. they were never around several years ago, and who needs them anyway. also, keeping **** girls out would be a good idea that probably won't hurt business much. having 15 year olds in your bar can't be good when you get raided.
i wanted to check out la yesterday, but didn't quite make it. found a nice, first day on the job girl in cotton club. a lot of nice girls right now in cc. in fact, i have found edsa particularly packed with talent in the last couple of trips. more girls then average for week night in most of the bars. even barfined a cute one in vip, and that place is usually filled with dogs.
just one interesting comment. when returning my girl to the complex yesterday at about midnight, there was a police car parked outside, with another one towards roxas. i can't remember ever seeing one there before. i decided to drop my girl off a hundred feet up the road. not that there was any particular risk in dropping her off right in front of the cop, but it is always best to avoid any situation that could end up with a bribe.
i plan on dropping la cafe tonight to assess the situation. will report back.
and what is this discussion doing in the makati section?
my thinking exactly, re. the ****. they're supposed to check i.d. for age at the door, but there are too many juvenile-looking nymphs without it. also, jurassic now has another name. and amazonia waitresses? they do not go out. it's the cleanest-run place in ermita.
i would much appreciate a report of your visit, because i'll be there in a couple of days. i still doubt that anything really happened.
it was a surprise to read about la cafe. most surprising is that jurassic, right next door, is a full on angeles city style bar with go go dancers and a bar fine. obviously, this has nothing to do with prostitution and everything to do with money. there are two likley reasons for the raid. first, the major was not getting his share of the action, so he ordered the raid to send a message. or second, a competitor paid the major for the raid. either way, everything will be as it was in a very short time. a few of the girls might be scared away for a while, and some permanently, but there are so many, what's the difference. in case anyone is worried, there is absolutely no way that la cafe will close. too much money involved, and too little evidence. while major lim did close all of the bars about 30 years ago, they were the gogo bars, and the "regular" bars like la cafe remained, or reopened shortly afterwoods (old timers, correct me if i am wrong). maybe this will also be a wakeup call for some of the questionable activities that la cafe started allowing in last year or so. mainly, the mamasans that are clearly employed by the bar. "clearly", because i have seen a list of them that the upstairs staff has so they know not to charge them entrance. some even wear badges indicating that they are in charge of the girls. they were never around several years ago, and who needs them anyway. also, keeping **** girls out would be a good idea that probably won't hurt business much. having 15 year olds in your bar can't be good when you get raided.
i wanted to check out la yesterday, but didn't quite make it. found a nice, first day on the job girl in cotton club. a lot of nice girls right now in cc. in fact, i have found edsa particularly packed with talent in the last couple of trips. more girls then average for week night in most of the bars. even barfined a cute one in vip, and that place is usually filled with dogs.
just one interesting comment. when returning my girl to the complex yesterday at about midnight, there was a police car parked outside, with another one towards roxas. i can't remember ever seeing one there before. i decided to drop my girl off a hundred feet up the road. not that there was any particular risk in dropping her off right in front of the cop, but it is always best to avoid any situation that could end up with a bribe.
i plan on dropping la cafe tonight to assess the situation. will report back.
and what is this discussion doing in the makati section?
Soju Lizard
08-17-06, 09:29
Maybe this will also be a wakeup call for some of the questionable activities that LA Cafe started allowing in last year or so. Mainly, the mamasans that are clearly employed by the bar. "Clearly", because I have seen a list of them that the upstairs staff has so they know not to charge them entrance.I haven't been to the PI or LA Cafe in over a year. Does LA Cafe now have a cover charge? I don't recall paying one before. I'll be in town in a few weeks and look forward to your follow-up reports. Thanks for the info on Edsa and the CC. In the past, I always made it a point to visit Edsa but the last couple of times I went there, me and friends were swarmed as soon as we walked in to the bars ala Burgoss style. I had a shirt torn by thirsty aggressive types in Edsa the last time and had to tip a couple of waitresses P100 each and buy them a few drinks to basically be our bodyguards and keep the masses away from our table. Then they would just circle and wait for when of our bodyguard waitresses were off filling orders to make their move. Now I know how the seal feels when he's surrounded by sharks. More and more I'm drawn to Ermita for this reason. Please post on the latest happenings at Jurassic and Butterfly in the Manila seciton. :) Cheers!
Soju Lizard
08-17-06, 10:07
Vinnie,
Can you or someone familiar with the area give us the location of Ringside? The place sounds interesting and I'd love to check it out but have no idea where it is.
Thanks!
Ringside is a pretty cool bar. I have been in there a couple times. I would not exactly call the boxing matches sexy. Basically, they take girls from a few different bars (all have the same owner) such as Billboard, Bottoms, Shampoo, etc...and the girls will go 3 rounds. I think each round is 2 minutes. The rounds are not back 2 back and seperated by dancers who do their routines between rounds.
Some of the girls/boxers can be a little shy in the ring and don't go right at it. The announcer tends to goad them into the fighting. They also stop quite often in the middle of the round to let the girls regain their composure. Just because it is boxing it does not mean they want the girls to get hurt.
It is quite entertaining to watch and the other girls tend to get interested and enjoy it as well.
As for the girls in the bar there are quite a few cute ones. I think happy hour is 6PM-8Pm but don't quote me on that.
Road Lover
08-17-06, 17:28
Hi
I have somehow never felt comfortable going to a bar and picking up a girl. Instead, I call a girl from an agency. I usually stay at New World and have never had trouble with either the agencies or the hotel. May be it is a bit more expensive? But it saves all the hassles. Generally the quality of girls are also fine. In fact, I have had some real fabulous ones and my encounters in Manila would count amoung the best in the world, with Bali, giving the closest run.
Now with all this raids, I wonder if it is safe to call girls? Any advise please?
Cebu Local
08-17-06, 23:56
Vinnie,
Can you or someone familiar with the area give us the location of Ringside? The place sounds interesting and I'd love to check it out but have no idea where it is.
Thanks!Burgos corner Kalayaan Avenue Makati City
There a cover when the upstairs opens 9 PM or so where the bands play and there are special shows some nights such as beauty contests. It's 100 weekdays and 150 weekends. After 2 AM I think the cover drops and girls swarm up. You won't get mobbed upstairs. In fact, some people just come for the band.
I haven't been to the PI or LA Cafe in over a year. Does LA Cafe now have a cover charge? I don't recall paying one before. I'll be in town in a few weeks and look forward to your follow-up reports. Thanks for the info on Edsa and the CC. In the past, I always made it a point to visit Edsa but the last couple of times I went there, me and friends were swarmed as soon as we walked in to the bars ala Burgoss style. I had a shirt torn by thirsty aggressive types in Edsa the last time and had to tip a couple of waitresses P100 each and buy them a few drinks to basically be our bodyguards and keep the masses away from our table. Then they would just circle and wait for when of our bodyguard waitresses were off filling orders to make their move. Now I know how the seal feels when he's surrounded by sharks. More and more I'm drawn to Ermita for this reason. Please post on the latest happenings at Jurassic and Butterfly in the Manila seciton. :) Cheers!
Soju Lizard
08-18-06, 00:23
There a cover when the upstairs opens 9 PM or so where the bands play and there are special shows some nights such as beauty contests. It's 100 weekdays and 150 weekends. After 2 AM I think the cover drops and girls swarm up. You won't get mobbed upstairs. In fact, some people just come for the band.Thanks CB. I don't think I ever made it upstairs before. I must have been drunker than I thought. ha ha. I'll make sure I check it out the next time.
CL,
Thanks for the directions to Ringside. This board really does make it easier for us tourists. :)
Cebu Local
08-18-06, 00:46
Hi
I have somehow never felt comfortable going to a bar and picking up a girl. Instead, I call a girl from an agency. I usually stay at New World and have never had trouble with either the agencies or the hotel. May be it is a bit more expensive? But it saves all the hassles. Generally the quality of girls are also fine. In fact, I have had some real fabulous ones and my encounters in Manila would count amoung the best in the world, with Bali, giving the closest run.
Now with all this raids, I wonder if it is safe to call girls? Any advise please?
Thare is no relation whatsoever between the 2
LoveAsianWhores
08-18-06, 11:13
This discussion belongs in the Manila section. I have posted yesterdays trip to LA Cafe there.
Road Lover
08-18-06, 20:33
Thare is no relation whatsoever between the 2
I was afraid that there was a general claen mission. From what you say, it looks like it is safe for my fingers to do the walking than my legs!
EVERY offense has its price (i.e. you can buy your way out of most anything in the PI). Just look at Marcos good friend Romeo Jalosjos! Sentenced to death for child molestation, he "purchased" a 12 Yo girl fron her father who was also sentenced to death, Jalosjos lives in luxurious "confinement" serving out his sentence (the poor father's conditions of confinement are MUCH more spartan) .
For all I know he has managed to buy his freedom by now.
In my week+ in Makati/Manila I only used a semi-pro once (found around 1 am at Cafe Havana) and most of my time was spent keeping my internet girls content, in bed and out. Here were some places for wining and dining and funning around:
Strumm's: A live band bar near Burgos Street. It's on Jupiter Street. The band on the night we visited was pretty famous and the girl I was with was impressed. Next to here is a sports bar with good eats and it also shows rugby matches, which my Aussie pal liked.
Filling Station: In the middle of sleaziest Burgos Street but still good for bringing regular girls. It's one of those 50's style places, a place for a good feed.
Cafe Havana: Yes, I also picked up a freelancer here but it's also a good place to bring a girl. It's in Greenbelt 1, just across from Landmark/Glorietta. They have Arabic sheesha pipe smokes and also sell top of the line cigars. It's often hard to find an outside place to sit so get here early or just tip one of the waiters a lot.
Greenbelt 1 other: The top floor above Cafe Havana has a good Spanish restaurant with paellas and other favorites. It has a good view over the woodsy part of Greenbelt, a rare chance for a nature-like experience in Manila.
Hard Rock: Of course it's also good for the band and eating at night. But I found it useful in mid-afternoon on a weekday. I was just breaking the ice with a new girl. The place was empty and we got a table in the billiards area looking out over Glorietta and the Shangri-La. Shooting pool and all the 'inadvertant' bumping and rubbing and general clowning around accelerated the warming up process and getting some action.
Ratsky: Actually in Malate in Manila but I can't be bothered to make a separate post about it. I actually like the Ratsky in Cebu better but this one is also okay with a good band.
Mall of Asia: This is the new one just off of Roxas. It has an up to date (IMAX?) kind of theatre that the girls like to go to. And of course Manila has endless malls just for strolling, killing time, eating and watching movies.
great info. Will check that out. My friend put that IMAX in Manila so I hope it does well. Any nice hotel within walking distance of Grenbelt1?
Soju Lizard
08-19-06, 11:19
This discussion belongs in the Manila section. I have posted yesterdays trip to LA Cafe there. LAS. Didn't see it in the Manila section. I've been eagerly awaiting your report. Your report of distinction on the Makati bars is the best FR I've ever seen on Makati. It's become my bible. LOL.
I've got a newbie question for you or anyone else who is familiar with the Greenbelt. In the past, I've always gone to Burgos, Ermita or EDSA when I'm in Manila. I have been to the Hard Rock and the Greenbelt area in general but it was sometime ago and my Alzheimer's is kicking in. :) From the maps I've seen, there are 3 Greenbelt areas. What is the difference between them and which would be the best one to go checkout the freelancers? A good taxi dropoff point? I know I could walk around between the 3 but that's a lot of area to cover in the heat and possible rain. Also from what I can tell, there is more than one Starbucks in the Greenbelt. Which would you recommend? Any areas to avoid? I appreciate any and all advice.
Thanks
Road Lover
08-19-06, 16:56
EVERY offense has its price (i.e. you can buy your way out of most anything in the PI). Just look at Marcos good friend Romeo Jalosjos! Sentenced to death for child molestation, he "purchased" a 12 Yo girl fron her father who was also sentenced to death, Jalosjos lives in luxurious "confinement" serving out his sentence (the poor father's conditions of confinement are MUCH more spartan) .
For all I know he has managed to buy his freedom by now.
Thanks for the clarification on price of freedom in PI.
However, I am intrigued that in these fora, everybody concentrates so much on pick ups. Hardly anybody mentions, reviews or posts on call girls, who you could dial in. I wonder why. I am new to this scene. I respect all the accumulated wisdom of the members of this forum. So tell me is it better to go to a bar and pick up rather than dial a girl in? WHy so? Isnt it way too much of time and effort invested to to go a physical place, drink and inhale the heavy smoken laden atmosphere, and then pick up a girl. ISnt it sooo much easier to call an agency and have the served up to you? Even if all you pros here prefer the more macho pick up routine, arent there anyone who tries or wants to know about the dial in options? There is hardly any descriptions about that service and no review of call in agencies and the girls they have. Also the experiences and good and bad about it. What worked, and what didnt? What precautions should one take? Any recommendations? SO that if someone wanted to stay in and enjoy, they could do so with the combined confidence that this forum can bestow? What say?
<...>So tell me is it better to go to a bar and pick up rather than dial a girl in? WHy so? Isnt it way too much of time and effort invested to to go a physical place, drink and inhale the heavy smoken laden atmosphere, and then pick up a girl. ISnt it sooo much easier to call an agency and have the served up to you? Even if all you pros here prefer the more macho pick up routine, arent there anyone who tries or wants to know about the dial in options?
Dude,
There are taxi drivers that will take you to out-of-the-way places where you can choose your partner. No smoky bars. No lady drinks. Just give him 200-300 peso. Quick and clean.
I found one by perusing this very forum. He'll take you to a place where there will be 15-20 young lovelies all willing to satisfy your urges. The only problem is, you need to start filtering: "girls with no baby"; "girls under 25", etc.
Good luck,
-Y
I have no experience with calling escorts in the PI, so cannot speak from experience there. Common sense says the danger of dial in is you never know what you will get AKA seeing is believing. Some, myself inmcluded, also enjoy the thrill of the hunt but for those that just want to get straight to the kill so to speak calling escorts might make sense. You certainly will pay more for the convenience. I would worry more about bait and switch (ie girl does not match photo, does not deliver as promised, etc.) than tropublewith the police though.
While prostitution is technically illegal in the PI, IMHO you'd have to be pretty stupid, unlucky, or both to have ANY legal issues from paying for sex provided you stick to legal aged girls. If you DON't PAY as agreed, THEN you may well have problems with the PNP (who will help a hooker collect a fee, and will add on a service fee for their efforts in collecting from the deadbeat John).
I hate smoky bars more than most guys, but PI is generally not that bad in that regard (unlike Japan, Indonesia, Spain etc.)
Good luck if you try it.
great info. Will check that out. My friend put that IMAX in Manila so I hope it does well. Any nice hotel within walking distance of Grenbelt1?
Take your pick. Shangri-La, Dusit, Peninsula (but you may run into your friend Senator Don), Mandarin Oriental, Renaissance, etc.
Soju Lizard: Greenbelt 1 is the place with Cafe Havana and so on. I didn't see much of interest in the other 2 Greenbelts. From there all the way over to the Dusit, including Glorietta and where Hard Rock is located, is mostly covered or indoors so you don't have to worry about weather much.
LoveAsianWhores
08-20-06, 11:21
LAS. Didn't see it in the Manila section. I've been eagerly awaiting your report. Your report of distinction on the Makati bars is the best FR I've ever seen on Makati. It's become my bible. LOL.
Thanks
Thanks, but don't confuse my Makati bar report with the bible. While the scene in Makati is very similar to the bible (boy meets girl, boy bangs girl, boy says "it isn't mine", girl says "I'm still a virgin), the stories in the bible don't change from month to month, but Makati bars change weekly. Using that report is like betting on a team based on last months roster. I'll try and update it when I find some time. Also, my Malate report is now posted in the Manila section.
I have been to Manila before and know the score about Burgos, didn't check out any other areas. I will be staying near greenbelt. Do you have any recommendations of bars that I can meet girls who aren't on duty? I am in town for 2 days and would like to do a hit and run.
Road Lover
08-21-06, 21:32
I have no experience with calling escorts in the PI, so cannot speak from experience there. Common sense says the danger of dial in is you never know what you will get AKA seeing is believing. Some, myself inmcluded, also enjoy the thrill of the hunt but for those that just want to get straight to the kill so to speak calling escorts might make sense. You certainly will pay more for the convenience. I would worry more about bait and switch (ie girl does not match photo, does not deliver as promised, etc.) than tropublewith the police though.
While prostitution is technically illegal in the PI, IMHO you'd have to be pretty stupid, unlucky, or both to have ANY legal issues from paying for sex provided you stick to legal aged girls. If you DON't PAY as agreed, THEN you may well have problems with the PNP (who will help a hooker collect a fee, and will add on a service fee for their efforts in collecting from the deadbeat John).
I hate smoky bars more than most guys, but PI is generally not that bad in that regard (unlike Japan, Indonesia, Spain etc.)
Good luck if you try it.
Thanks and thanks bro Yi ren. May be i am past the prime and therefore not so hooked to hunting. But Yi, your idea of the cab ride sounds engaging. I will get on that this trip. hope he takes me for a fun trip rather than a rip ride!
I have been to Manila before and know the score about Burgos, didn't check out any other areas. I will be staying near greenbelt. Do you have any recommendations of bars that I can meet girls who aren't on duty? I am in town for 2 days and would like to do a hit and run.
Many of the bars in Greenbelt and Glorietta malls are happy hunting grounds but don't go too early. I would say 10 pm at the earliest. I like the outdoor seating area of Cafe Havana or Club Havana [can't ever remember the name] next to the Starbucks in Greenbelt 3 and also Hard Rock Cafe in the bar area.
Many of the bars in Greenbelt and Glorietta malls are happy hunting grounds but don't go too early. I would say 10 pm at the earliest. I like the outdoor seating area of Cafe Havana or Club Havana [can't ever remember the name] next to the Starbucks in Greenbelt 3 and also Hard Rock Cafe in the bar area.
Hard Rock is known for having pros and semi-pros. I've only been there once or twice but the only regular girls I have seen there were with guys. The rest were obviously working girls...
I heard from a girl working there that PNP showed up in full effect last Saturday.
Soju Lizard
08-22-06, 11:39
Many of the bars in Greenbelt and Glorietta malls are happy hunting grounds but don't go too early. I would say 10 pm at the earliest. I like the outdoor seating area of Cafe Havana or Club Havana [can't ever remember the name] next to the Starbucks in Greenbelt 3 and also Hard Rock Cafe in the bar area.If someone has the time, pls do a quick breakdown of the Greenbelts. Some folks say Cafe Havana is in GB1, others say it's in GB3. A detailed and accurate field report of the area would be much appreciated to include areas were freelancers congregate, taxi drop off points, areas to avoid, etc. It's a prime area I think for mongering but there is a lot of conflicting info here. Also (unrelated), where is Harrisons Mall?
Thanks for any assistance.
If someone has the time, pls do a quick breakdown of the Greenbelts. Some folks say Cafe Havana is in GB1, others say it's in GB3. A detailed and accurate field report of the area would be much appreciated to include areas were freelancers congregate, taxi drop off points, areas to avoid, etc. It's a prime area I think for mongering but there is a lot of conflicting info here. Also (unrelated), where is Harrisons Mall?
Thanks for any assistance.
It is very confusing to me too. I am not even sure Starbucks and Club Havana are in the same mall. Their outdoor seating is across the patio from each other. I think Green belt 1, 2 and 3 form sort of a circle. I just keep asking for directions. Ask the pretty girls! :D
White Wolf
08-22-06, 19:27
It is very confusing to me too. I am not even sure Starbucks and Club Havana are in the same mall. Their outdoor seating is across the patio from each other. I think Green belt 1, 2 and 3 form sort of a circle. I just keep asking for directions. Ask the pretty girls! :D
Club Havana is in GB3. There's a Starbucks next to Havana which also is in GB3 of course, but on the outside of the GB1 mall there's also another Starbucks. I'll try to break it down.
GB1 is the oldest of the four. It's the mall along Paseo De Roxas and there's a drop off point and taxi stand there. At the outside of the mall there are more shops and some restaurants. It's not really a place for any pick ups.
GB2 is next to GB1 and consists only of restaurants, a parking lot, a few regular bars and a nice bakery shop. All restaurants and bars are at the ground floor. It's easy to recognize because all the restaurants are next to each other, have big terraces and at some nights there's live music on a small stage.
GB3 is the next one. It has Club Havana, consists of three or four floors and has a nice cinema on the second floor. This is the best place for pick ups. At night Club Havana and Starbucks on the ground floor are the places for that.
GB4 is the last one and is pretty small. Build at the flyover which you can use to walk to the Glorietta malls. On the ground floor there are the more expensive shops from brands like louis vuitton, gucci, etc...
Between GB3 and GB4 is the main drop off point for taxis. It's along makati avenue.
Soju Lizard
08-23-06, 09:19
Thanks for the GB breakdown WW. That really helps a lot. GB3 it is!
I just wanted to throw my 2 pisos in regarding the call girl vs. pickup discussion below.
Personally I love call girls...when I'm in the US or other countries that don't have 1,000 GRO's within 10 minutes of my hotel. Call girls are easy, convenient and always end with a happy finish. The problem is it's a roll of the dice every time. Not so much in the looks department, but in the personality department. Rarely you'll ever get a GFE with a call girl and I've even had a couple break out a portable alarm clock and set the time for when they have to leave. Kind of put a damper on the mood if you know what I mean. But in the US and other conservative morally uptight countries, there really is no other choice.
In the Philippines, IMHO, it's really worth a little of your time to go out and seek a GRO or FL that you know will be your style. Usually a 10 minute taxi ride takes you where you need to go and then you can barhop a little bit and view hundreds of ladies and window shop for what you want. Calling one (or a few) to your table and chatting over a couple of drinks will let you know very quickly which one(s) have the personality you like. Not to mention, it's a great experience enjoying all of the attention you'll recieve from dozens of young cute hotties.
Unless you're really pinched for time, like a 3-4 hour layover and then you fly out, you are really missing out on a great experience that you'll never forget by staying in your room and ordering up a "pizza". For less money and just a little bit of your free time, you can experience an all you can eat buffet that you'll be telling your grandkids about someday.
Road Lover
08-23-06, 17:38
Thanks for the GB breakdown WW. That really helps a lot. GB3 it is!
I just wanted to throw my 2 pisos in regarding the call girl vs. pickup discussion below.
Personally I love call girls...when I'm in the US or other countries that don't have 1,000 GRO's within 10 minutes of my hotel. Call girls are easy, convenient and always end with a happy finish. The problem is it's a roll of the dice every time. Not so much in the looks department, but in the personality department. Rarely you'll ever get a GFE with a call girl and I've even had a couple break out a portable alarm clock and set the time for when they have to leave. Kind of put a damper on the mood if you know what I mean. But in the US and other conservative morally uptight countries, there really is no other choice.
In the Philippines, IMHO, it's really worth a little of your time to go out and seek a GRO or FL that you know will be your style. Usually a 10 minute taxi ride takes you where you need to go and then you can barhop a little bit and view hundreds of ladies and window shop for what you want. Calling one (or a few) to your table and chatting over a couple of drinks will let you know very quickly which one(s) have the personality you like. Not to mention, it's a great experience enjoying all of the attention you'll recieve from dozens of young cute hotties.
Unless you're really pinched for time, like a 3-4 hour layover and then you fly out, you are really missing out on a great experience that you'll never forget by staying in your room and ordering up a "pizza". For less money and just a little bit of your free time, you can experience an all you can eat buffet that you'll be telling your grandkids about someday.
You are really convincing me brother. I have one last niggling problem. I am with a few colleagues and I dont want them to see me with a 'hot young cutie' hanging on my arm! IN Makati, I also have a whole load of business associates with whom I want preserve my prim and proper stance. Presents a problem doesnt it?
Hunny Buns
08-23-06, 17:48
that the reason why places like AF1 and other established places don't get raided is because the police might knock the door down and find their boss.
So, Road, if you barhop, you'll probably run into your collegues/business associates with a 'cute young hottie'. I have similar issues when I visit MNL, but I do it anyway. In most likelihood, they're doing the same.
Soju Lizard
08-24-06, 00:50
You are really convincing me brother. I have one last niggling problem. I am with a few colleagues and I dont want them to see me with a 'hot young cutie' hanging on my arm! IN Makati, I also have a whole load of business associates with whom I want preserve my prim and proper stance. Presents a problem doesnt it?RL,
Yeah that is a problem but like Member 3119 said, your colleagues will probably be doing the same thing. ha ha. Or maybe you can subtley inquire as to where they go and then head off in the opposite direction. There are many different areas to explore and not even the most hardcore mongerer could hit them all in one night. I wish you luck.
You are really convincing me brother. I have one last niggling problem. I am with a few colleagues and I dont want them to see me with a 'hot young cutie' hanging on my arm! IN Makati, I also have a whole load of business associates with whom I want preserve my prim and proper stance. Presents a problem doesnt it?Road Lover,
If you're concerned about your business assocaites, just get another hotel room for a night. There are several reasonably priced, decent places in the burgos area which is very convenient. Just pick up your choice of the many hot young cuties in the bars, walk her to your room & enjoy some great boom boom. If you don't want to keep her all night, you could let her go & head back to your regular hotel.
Hunny Buns
08-24-06, 05:01
RL,
Yeah that is a problem but like Member 3119 said, your colleagues will probably be doing the same thing. ha ha. Or maybe you can subtley inquire as to where they go and then head off in the opposite direction. There are many different areas to explore and not even the most hardcore mongerer could hit them all in one night. I wish you luck.But the problem is all your collegues will be doing the same. Imagine, they all say they have a dinner meeting in Makati, and all go to Quezon City. It will be a continuation of the day meeting from conference room, to private rooms in ClassMates. LOL
Road Lover
08-24-06, 18:54
But the problem is all your collegues will be doing the same. Imagine, they all say they have a dinner meeting in Makati, and all go to Quezon City. It will be a continuation of the day meeting from conference room, to private rooms in ClassMates. LOL
Come on guys. My Goal is to SCORE a goal not GO to a goal! Anyway I arriv next week and I promise to be more adventerous this time and keep u guys informed. Thanks for everything.
Bit Farmer
08-25-06, 06:30
My first visit to Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3 was fruitful, following the advice found in this forum, so I will just add my experience - and I tend to be long worded, so you are forewarned.
I arrived just after 10pm on Thursday night, and the place was packed - it did take me a while to locate it at first, as my taxi dropped me at greenbelt 1 and I had to find my way along the sidewalks and shops to GB3, and then when I finally did get to GB3, it took me some more time to figure out that the place was on the ground level, and not the main 2nd level. Walk past the fountain and down the stairs, to the large seating area in the center with a starbucks seating area on your right. If you hot waitresses wearing red berets, you're at the right place - (BTW - anyone have any success picking up one of these babes?)
I ordered a 500p scotch, and then wandered around outside of all the tables. Figured some of you guys had to be the gray-hairs with the young hotties hanging off your arms, big smiles on your faces. Lots of foreigners and attractive ladies here, as well as at Starbucks.
I picked a seat on the edge, and just studied the people. I figure its safe to say at least 90% of the woman there were pro/freelancers. Plenty of girls with guys, and plenty of groups of two/three girls. The 8/9s usually had some guys attention already, but if you could garner a look from them, its an invitiation. Making casual glacing eye contact with a girl, with a smile, was a good indication of interest, and on the 2nd glance, if you get the raised eyebrow look you know your are in. Its up to you to make the initial approach. I saw at least 20 guys (pairs and threes) come in, sit, look and leave - the key in my brief experience here is to the make the first move, and that's pretty much all you need to do.
There are 3 scenes here, the main table area, the cafe/dance floor itself, and the starbucks - which is really just an extension of the cafe seating area - but don't ignore it like I did. I assumed at first that the few groups of girls hanging out at starbucks were not playing. I was wrong and missed out on a young hottie 9/10 - the thing is, the drink prices at the cafe average 500p+, whereas you can get a coffee drink next door for 100-200p so the girls over there are likely freelancers with less ready cash, and frankly, the girls there were younger and prettier than most of the pros/frees working the havana tables. By the time I figured this out, those groups had dispersed - and that's a point to note at this place - the girls seem to hang out for about an hour or so, and if they are not getting any action, they move on - so if you see something you like, and get eye contact, make your move - initiate a conversation, any conversation - they will take it from there.
The 2nd scene is the cafe dance floor, crowded, sweaty, and lots of make-up, short dresses, and close dancing. If you're into getting your hands on a lot of bodies, this is your place, just pile in and mingle.
I stayed with the main cafe floor scene, tables and chairs, and just watched for a while. The only single girls I saw where some old, tired pros, and they will stare you down... Lots of groups of 2 and 3, often sitting with at least one guy, but sometimes alone. Once I got some eye contact going, I would just wander over and make conversation, sometimes it was hard to leave - but once you talk to a few girls, it seems like the others take the hint and will catch your eye more often. There was one table of 3 21-24yo girls talking to an guy in his late 60's, the one I thought was hottest had her back to me, so I kept angling for a look - her friend caught on, and gave her a hint I think, because next thing I know she is brushing past me on the way to the bathroom and stops with her back to me about 10 feet from the table, so I can check out her tight little figure (if I girl puts herself straight into your line of view, its an invitation) - so I figure on the way back I'll say something - but I missed her exit because the girls behind me (5's) started up a conversation - when I saw her sitting down again, I was still chatting, and next thing I know - her whole table leaves - so same lesson - if you see something you like in this place, move quick.
From my vantage point I could see the new arrivals as they paraded down the stairs, and between 11pm and 1am I would say 40 different girls came and went - it seems if the freelancers don't get any bites, they move on.
By 1am I've got a good buzz on, have flirted with 6 different girls and have a couple lingering about, but I am not satisified simply because there were so many 8/9's early (that were already hooked up) so I'm aiming for that level. A word of warning, I did keep getting looks from a particular table of 5 girls and one filipino guy. They were all tall by filipino standards, probably 5'9 or so, rail thin, pretty even, except one of them had an unusual look, something didn't seem quite right...
Finally a couple of petite hotties come and plant themselves at a table nearby, one is an 8, the other a 7. We smile at each other, then I keep angling for a look at the 8, who is sitting to the side of me. Also at this time, one of my new friends, mercy, from earlier in the evening had decided to plant herself at my table - and I figured it was ok because, if all else failed, she was good to go. Next thing I know, miss 8 changes seats so we are now face to face about 15 feet apart - so i'm in, now I just have to escape from the one next to me. We continue to make eye contact with each other, a real nice pick-up game, and later she gets up and goes into the cafe. Not to miss an opportunity twice, I excuse myself after a fair wait, with the plan to chat her up in the bathroom hallway. I positioned myself in line, and let some other guys pass me so the timing is right, so on her way out, I had noticied she had some purple shoes, so I fired a "I like your shoes" at her - big smile, thank you, hand gliding down my arm.
When I come out, as I go to sit back at my table she is all smiles, so I just move over to their table and introduce myself to Karla and Tina, what about your girlfriend Karla says - and to my surprise Merce joins us. 15 minutes later, I comment to them about the "tall filipinas" - and they laugh at me - be careful she says, those are not filipina... there's a surprise under that skirt... Believe me, in 4 out of the 5, I could not tell from a distance - so keep your gaydar tuned up - end of warning. So after 5 minutes Karla asks me if I want to go for a walk, kindly disposing of the hanger-on for me - and her friend follows. Next thing I know, we're in the cab line. Are you taking me home she asks, yes sure - but my friend Tina, she can come with us? Umm - I guess - I hadn't really anticipated that - but Tina was cute and tiny, so ok, I'm game. I'm thinking this is a real side benefit of flying solo her, as the girls often work in pairs.
In the cab I tell her that my friend (this site) taught me some tagalog, "what?" she says, "magkano" I say (how much) and they both laugh - who taught you that? - we can talk about that later. Better now than later I suggest, to which she plants a deep kiss onto my lips... ok, later.
Back at the hotel, Karla says her friend will sleep, and Tina jumps in the bed under the covers. We lay down next to her, remove each others clothes, and start exploring. Next, Tina jumps up to take a shower, leaving us to fondle each other - with Karla saying I will take one next. After a few minutes of kissing, with my hard cock in her hand, she stops and says magkano, and I say 1000. She laughs, says oh, cheap charlie, and says its 9000 - and then I laugh harder and removed her hand from my unit. I offered 2000, and she says each. I tell her I just want her, at which point her friend is standing there at the bed now, naked and wet, and looking pretty appetizing... you will want two she says. Ok, 3000 for two, I say, and they say its double, but start in with the tagalog - so I say "3000, deal or no deal" - to which the friend says "deal" enthusiastically, and procedes to go down on me - while my favorite Karla goes to the shower.
As luck would have it, the 7, Tina, is better in the sack than the 8, Karla - multiple bbbj, double participation, enthusiastic humping, multiple positions, etc. Although I have to say that Karla had a particular girl on top move that was just awesome - amazing what a little 95lb beauty can do. We took turns all night, until the ole unit just wouldnt get hard again.
I think I slept about 1 hour before my eight o'clock meeting, and they insisted on making me come one more time about 15 minutes before we left the room for my meeting, both taking turns blowing me, and then Karla humped me with abandon on the edge of the bed, while Tina was having a casual conversation on the phone with someone, describing the sex... you just gotta love this place.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
I'm esconced once again in the Dusit Makati, this time on the executive floor because that's all they had. I'll just be here a couple of nights before I'm off on a north Mindanao swing. Hope to see anyone who happens to be in town.
There are condos in the Millenium Plaza Hotel on Makati Ave up the street from the City Garden Hotel; they're OK to stay in. But if you should run into a landlord whose nickname begins with I, you shouldn't do business with her. She tried to stiff me on returning my deposit before I left last week. She was just never around. She would return my texts to say she was "coming soon", but never showed up. I changed my outbound flight back one day (cost me USD$56 to do that) in order to keep after her. At 5:30am the next day, I finally get back 60% of the deposit, but in pesos instead of the requested dollars. I am probably going to have to kiss off the other 40% as I won't be back in the Phils for awhile.
Part of it is my fault as I did not insist on a contract in writing when we were doing the deal. All I had in writing were the receipts. Lesson learned.
Road Lover
08-30-06, 15:01
Guys! WHat a fabulous experience I had this trip to this sexgodess city. I had three very blastful experiences, and guys, contrary to the suggestons by all my good friends here, I continu to be timid and depended on my luck and the interity of the call service. I am not sure of it is ok to mention the call service names here. But I called them thrice as the first experience was good and I got encouraged to call them again and again.
The first girl was great attitude. Did everything I wanted. flat stomach. smallish tits, small butt and a dripping wet pussy. bbbj was good enough to awaken the little giant! good explosive finish.
So next night I called them again. I was tired from my exploits of the previous night and travel, so I wanted a decent enough massge and a nice dessert to finish the session. SO I called the smae agency and explained my problem. So the mamasan, laid out the menu and really went out of her way to tell me that those that give good massage are older and their tits are droopy, etc. BUt I whined, thats no good as I needed the experienced kneading of the mature women and the fresh firm body of the younger jingy-jing! So after considerable thought, she laid out a delectable menu for me. She said she will send me a pure 'massues' AND a pure 'jung-jingier! How about that. I was really in a swinging mood already! And the dishes were as good as promised!
SO the third night, I said let me push the envelope. I called the smae agency and told her my challenge that I have in not being able to go GB 3 or various pubs, and I told her that my friends tell me that I am missing out on some great hotties. I said i feel I am missing out. She then asked me to specify my idea of a cute young hottie. I said young 19, short, no more than 5, B cup and a round ass, flat stomach, I dont care about the face, but participative attitude and who enjoys sex. She sent me the perfect angel in return. Nice firm boobs. Clearly no more than 20. Petite and a tigress in bed.
Now for the best part. I had been negotiating price always. SO when I called her third time she herself offerred this perfect ten ( may be fact might just be 6) for 2500 for three hours! And you know what, she came at 10, and since we liked what we did during the contract period, by mutual content she just slept over and we did another mind blower in the morning, before I had to get ready for breakfast meeting. SHe went away happily.
I know what you guys said is true, as I had terrible experiences sometimes. But this was fantastic and I think sometimes you doget lucky!
Can you proide contact information? Name, phone no., etc.
Guys! WHat a fabulous experience I had this trip to this sexgodess city. I had three very blastful experiences, and guys, contrary to the suggestons by all my good friends here, I continu to be timid and depended on my luck and the interity of the call service. I am not sure of it is ok to mention the call service names here. But I called them thrice as the first experience was good and I got encouraged to call them again and again.
The first girl was great attitude. Did everything I wanted. flat stomach. smallish tits, small butt and a dripping wet pussy. bbbj was good enough to awaken the little giant! good explosive finish.
So next night I called them again. I was tired from my exploits of the previous night and travel, so I wanted a decent enough massge and a nice dessert to finish the session. SO I called the smae agency and explained my problem. So the mamasan, laid out the menu and really went out of her way to tell me that those that give good massage are older and their tits are droopy, etc. BUt I whined, thats no good as I needed the experienced kneading of the mature women and the fresh firm body of the younger jingy-jing! So after considerable thought, she laid out a delectable menu for me. She said she will send me a pure 'massues' AND a pure 'jung-jingier! How about that. I was really in a swinging mood already! And the dishes were as good as promised!
SO the third night, I said let me push the envelope. I called the smae agency and told her my challenge that I have in not being able to go GB 3 or various pubs, and I told her that my friends tell me that I am missing out on some great hotties. I said i feel I am missing out. She then asked me to specify my idea of a cute young hottie. I said young 19, short, no more than 5, B cup and a round ass, flat stomach, I dont care about the face, but participative attitude and who enjoys sex. She sent me the perfect angel in return. Nice firm boobs. Clearly no more than 20. Petite and a tigress in bed.
Now for the best part. I had been negotiating price always. SO when I called her third time she herself offerred this perfect ten ( may be fact might just be 6) for 2500 for three hours! And you know what, she came at 10, and since we liked what we did during the contract period, by mutual content she just slept over and we did another mind blower in the morning, before I had to get ready for breakfast meeting. SHe went away happily.
I know what you guys said is true, as I had terrible experiences sometimes. But this was fantastic and I think sometimes you doget lucky!
Does anyone knows some others place of massage in Makati?
There is that one
Phoenix1 Massage parlor in the Roman Suite Hotel on Armaiz Av. or on Pasay road, San Lorenzo Village.
Well I am not sure about the adress.
Some others adresses massage parlor in some others cities in Metro Manila would be good too.
My first visit to Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3 was fruitful, following the advice found in this forum, so I will just add my experience - and I tend to be long worded, so you are forewarned.
I arrived just after 10pm on Thursday night, and the place was packed.........
Bit Farmer,
I enjoyed reading your detailed report. Thanks!
It appears you were at CF until at least 2 am in the morning? Since you went on a weekday, I am curious to know what time this place closes. Or does it stay open for 24 hours?
Also, since CF is so busy did the Staff try and "pressurize" you to vacate the table? Were you seated on the patio or inside the restaurant?
~BKKguru
Are we talking about the same Cafe Havana? The one with the large picture of Castro on horseback? I am not sure from the way you describe the place. I believe the Cafe Adriatica is across the street.
Let me know.
From the
My first visit to Cafe Havana in Greenbelt 3 was fruitful, following the advice found in this forum, so I will just add my experience - and I tend to be long worded, so you are forewarned.
I arrived just after 10pm on Thursday night, and the place was packed - it did take me a while to locate it at first, as my taxi dropped me at greenbelt 1 and I had to find my way along the sidewalks and shops to GB3, and then when I finally did get to GB3, it took me some more time to figure out that the place was on the ground level, and not the main 2nd level. Walk past the fountain and down the stairs, to the large seating area in the center with a starbucks seating area on your right. If you hot waitresses wearing red berets, you're at the right place - (BTW - anyone have any success picking up one of these babes?)
I ordered a 500p scotch, and then wandered around outside of all the tables. Figured some of you guys had to be the gray-hairs with the young hotties hanging off your arms, big smiles on your faces. Lots of foreigners and attractive ladies here, as well as at Starbucks.
I picked a seat on the edge, and just studied the people. I figure its safe to say at least 90% of the woman there were pro/freelancers. Plenty of girls with guys, and plenty of groups of two/three girls. The 8/9s usually had some guys attention already, but if you could garner a look from them, its an invitiation. Making casual glacing eye contact with a girl, with a smile, was a good indication of interest, and on the 2nd glance, if you get the raised eyebrow look you know your are in. Its up to you to make the initial approach. I saw at least 20 guys (pairs and threes) come in, sit, look and leave - the key in my brief experience here is to the make the first move, and that's pretty much all you need to do.
There are 3 scenes here, the main table area, the cafe/dance floor itself, and the starbucks - which is really just an extension of the cafe seating area - but don't ignore it like I did. I assumed at first that the few groups of girls hanging out at starbucks were not playing. I was wrong and missed out on a young hottie 9/10 - the thing is, the drink prices at the cafe average 500p+, whereas you can get a coffee drink next door for 100-200p so the girls over there are likely freelancers with less ready cash, and frankly, the girls there were younger and prettier than most of the pros/frees working the havana tables. By the time I figured this out, those groups had dispersed - and that's a point to note at this place - the girls seem to hang out for about an hour or so, and if they are not getting any action, they move on - so if you see something you like, and get eye contact, make your move - initiate a conversation, any conversation - they will take it from there.
The 2nd scene is the cafe dance floor, crowded, sweaty, and lots of make-up, short dresses, and close dancing. If you're into getting your hands on a lot of bodies, this is your place, just pile in and mingle.
I stayed with the main cafe floor scene, tables and chairs, and just watched for a while. The only single girls I saw where some old, tired pros, and they will stare you down... Lots of groups of 2 and 3, often sitting with at least one guy, but sometimes alone. Once I got some eye contact going, I would just wander over and make conversation, sometimes it was hard to leave - but once you talk to a few girls, it seems like the others take the hint and will catch your eye more often. There was one table of 3 21-24yo girls talking to an guy in his late 60's, the one I thought was hottest had her back to me, so I kept angling for a look - her friend caught on, and gave her a hint I think, because next thing I know she is brushing past me on the way to the bathroom and stops with her back to me about 10 feet from the table, so I can check out her tight little figure (if I girl puts herself straight into your line of view, its an invitation) - so I figure on the way back I'll say something - but I missed her exit because the girls behind me (5's) started up a conversation - when I saw her sitting down again, I was still chatting, and next thing I know - her whole table leaves - so same lesson - if you see something you like in this place, move quick.
From my vantage point I could see the new arrivals as they paraded down the stairs, and between 11pm and 1am I would say 40 different girls came and went - it seems if the freelancers don't get any bites, they move on.
By 1am I've got a good buzz on, have flirted with 6 different girls and have a couple lingering about, but I am not satisified simply because there were so many 8/9's early (that were already hooked up) so I'm aiming for that level. A word of warning, I did keep getting looks from a particular table of 5 girls and one filipino guy. They were all tall by filipino standards, probably 5'9 or so, rail thin, pretty even, except one of them had an unusual look, something didn't seem quite right...
Finally a couple of petite hotties come and plant themselves at a table nearby, one is an 8, the other a 7. We smile at each other, then I keep angling for a look at the 8, who is sitting to the side of me. Also at this time, one of my new friends, mercy, from earlier in the evening had decided to plant herself at my table - and I figured it was ok because, if all else failed, she was good to go. Next thing I know, miss 8 changes seats so we are now face to face about 15 feet apart - so i'm in, now I just have to escape from the one next to me. We continue to make eye contact with each other, a real nice pick-up game, and later she gets up and goes into the cafe. Not to miss an opportunity twice, I excuse myself after a fair wait, with the plan to chat her up in the bathroom hallway. I positioned myself in line, and let some other guys pass me so the timing is right, so on her way out, I had noticied she had some purple shoes, so I fired a "I like your shoes" at her - big smile, thank you, hand gliding down my arm.
When I come out, as I go to sit back at my table she is all smiles, so I just move over to their table and introduce myself to Karla and Tina, what about your girlfriend Karla says - and to my surprise Merce joins us. 15 minutes later, I comment to them about the "tall filipinas" - and they laugh at me - be careful she says, those are not filipina... there's a surprise under that skirt... Believe me, in 4 out of the 5, I could not tell from a distance - so keep your gaydar tuned up - end of warning. So after 5 minutes Karla asks me if I want to go for a walk, kindly disposing of the hanger-on for me - and her friend follows. Next thing I know, we're in the cab line. Are you taking me home she asks, yes sure - but my friend Tina, she can come with us? Umm - I guess - I hadn't really anticipated that - but Tina was cute and tiny, so ok, I'm game. I'm thinking this is a real side benefit of flying solo her, as the girls often work in pairs.
In the cab I tell her that my friend (this site) taught me some tagalog, "what?" she says, "magkano" I say (how much) and they both laugh - who taught you that? - we can talk about that later. Better now than later I suggest, to which she plants a deep kiss onto my lips... ok, later.
Back at the hotel, Karla says her friend will sleep, and Tina jumps in the bed under the covers. We lay down next to her, remove each others clothes, and start exploring. Next, Tina jumps up to take a shower, leaving us to fondle each other - with Karla saying I will take one next. After a few minutes of kissing, with my hard cock in her hand, she stops and says magkano, and I say 1000. She laughs, says oh, cheap charlie, and says its 9000 - and then I laugh harder and removed her hand from my unit. I offered 2000, and she says each. I tell her I just want her, at which point her friend is standing there at the bed now, naked and wet, and looking pretty appetizing... you will want two she says. Ok, 3000 for two, I say, and they say its double, but start in with the tagalog - so I say "3000, deal or no deal" - to which the friend says "deal" enthusiastically, and procedes to go down on me - while my favorite Karla goes to the shower.
As luck would have it, the 7, Tina, is better in the sack than the 8, Karla - multiple bbbj, double participation, enthusiastic humping, multiple positions, etc. Although I have to say that Karla had a particular girl on top move that was just awesome - amazing what a little 95lb beauty can do. We took turns all night, until the ole unit just wouldnt get hard again.
I think I slept about 1 hour before my eight o'clock meeting, and they insisted on making me come one more time about 15 minutes before we left the room for my meeting, both taking turns blowing me, and then Karla humped me with abandon on the edge of the bed, while Tina was having a casual conversation on the phone with someone, describing the sex... you just gotta love this place.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Cebu Local
10-01-06, 03:22
There are several branches of Cafe Havana,One in Malate infront of Cafe Adriatico.One in Greenbelt 3 near Starbucks and one coming up in Cebu.Hope this Clarifies things Cheers
Soju Lizard
10-01-06, 15:05
There hasn't been much posted in the Makati section here on the clubs for quite awhile so I thought I'd do a quick review of Burgos with the latest happenings from the most overpriced area of Manila. I recently spent several days just around the corner at the City Garden and did quite a bit of barhopping on Burgos. Now, I was on Burgos on a Sunday and Monday so I'm sure things were a lot slower than a typical Friday night. And yes, I do know that Angeles is so much better (and cheaper) but I had other reasons for being in Manila. I also hit Quezon and EDSA but will save that report for another day. So, without further ado.
First, a quick note on the Makati City Garden: it's a great location on Makati Ave one block down from Burgos. I know this hotel has lots of fans who have been coming here for years but for the money you'd be better off at Oxford Suites. The CG is getting a little rundown and shoddy. My bedcover had some cigarette burn holes in it and the in-room safe didn't work. They did try to fix the safe for me but could not. The hotel had no other smoking rooms available so not having a room safe was a major inconvenience since I prefer things (wallet, cash, jewelry, etc) to be locked away when I'm entertaining bargirls. They did say they had security boxes at the front desk but these were not big enough for my camera and who wants to go through that crap every time you bring a girl back? Basically, the owners of CG need to invest some of the huge profits they've made over the years for some renovations. Another year or two and it will be as bad as another hotel that used to be great but has become a slum in recent years because the owners are too cheap to keep it renovated. The Century Citadel.
Burgos still has the annoying street vendors everywhere no matter what time of the day or night it is. And they will approach you every time you pass them by. One of the fake Rolex guys actually followed me into the 7-11 begging me to buy one of his watches because his kid hadn't eaten in a couple of days. Shouldn't have kids if you can't afford them IMHO. I generally try not to be rude to these people because they are working and not begging but more and more I'm losing my patience with them.
Mirrors was the first bar I hit. They have a pretty decent lineup with a couple of real cuties. Happy hour was P75 San Mig Lights and P150 ladies drinks. Even better is their smoking lounge is setup like VIP booths with curtains that can easily be closed. I really hit the ground running and enjoyed the VIP room with 3 cuties. My happy finish only cost 2 drinks each for the 3 ladies (P900 total). I didn't need to bring in 3 but I was splurging in my first bar. They were joking and laughing and generally seemed be be having a good time. I could have had the same happy finish with only one girl which would have been P300 (two happy hour lady drinks) for a BBBJ in the VIP booth. Not bad. Now that is Angeles prices.
Rogues. I can't say enough about this bar. It is old school and so are some of the girls but it's by far the most comfortable bar on Burgos. There was absolutely no pressure to buy drinks for the girls, they have pool tables (P25 a game though) and they show sports programming on several TV's. The girls here were not beauty queens but they are fun and have tons of personality. I ended up spending a lot of time here and did one short time (full barfine price of P2500) on my second day. If you like big titties, they have one mutant girl with 38DD guns that is a sight to behold. Also this is the only bar with GRO's that opens at 12 noon. The rest open at 2 PM. Their happy hour is until 10 PM with P150 ladies drinks. It's a great place to start your barhop. It's right at the corner of Burgos and Makati Ave next to Pizza Hut across from Flamingos. They have VIP rooms too though they are right on the main floor so there isn't much privacy; just an opaque curtain. A VIP happy finish can be had for 3 ladies drinks depending on the girl of course. At happy hour, thats only P450. You just can't beat this place for fun on Burgos.
Wild West. Located around the corner from Flamingos on Makati Ave. A very fun although cramped place to visit. The lineup was not so good the night I went but the mamasan did tell me many of the girls were off that day. Take advantage of the cheaper barfines here but be warned that the elderly waitresses will ask you over and over again to buy them drinks. No pressure at all from the dancers; just the waitresses. A good place to hit early after Rogues but if it's crowded, you'll be elbow to elbow with everyone else. I wish they'd change the layout. They have another stage behind the main one but they never seem to use it. The place would be a lot better and less crowded if they did.
Hollywood. I didn't go in here because I was avoiding someone from my last trip in Feb that still works here. Nice girl but I had trouble getting her to leave the next day. Usually a good bar though with a decent lineup. They will swarm you here for drinks though.
Mogambo. I didn't go in here either though I should have as it's part of the Wild West group. This place needed a management shakeup back in Feb as the girls did not do anything except sit around playing cards and board games with each other the last time I was there. Not sure if that is still how they do things there or if a new manager has the dancers dancing again. I really wish I'd stopped in here now just to check it out.
Tickles. My worst experience of the Burgos bars. P380 (about $7.60) for a rum/coke is insane and there was immediate pressure as soon as I walked in the door. I hadn't even sat down yet and had 10 girls tugging my arm and begging for drinks. Then I got pressure from the fat mamasan for drinks too. I drank my r/c as fast as I could and got out of there. The only redeeming thing about the place was one waitress did apologize to me for all of the begging I got from the other girls and mamasan. She could tell I wasn't comfortable and tried to smooth things over a bit but it was too late.
Shampoo. Decent lineup with a few cuties but way too much pressure for me. Some people do like being swarmed. I guess it's good for the ego but I've always been uncomfortable with it. I feel like the fish does when he's surrounded by sharks. I can handle a couple of aggressive types that come up right away but I can't handle a dozen of them. If you like the swarms, this is a good place for you. They do have VIP rooms and the music was a lower volume than most places.
Billboard. Off the scale with hotties but not all of the dancers will barfine. This place had some great dancers and they seem to let them come up with their own fashion styles instead of everyone wearing the same uniforms. I kind of like this as you can gather a little insight into the girl by what she wears from her own closet. I like the way this club is setup. It's very open and has an elevated stage. Barfines are P3000 here and there was some pressure for drinks but manageable. No swarms. You definitely need to check out this place on your barhop just for the amount of stunners they have. If you are interested in a girl here, find out if she barfines before you waste any LD's on her.
Banditos. Good bar with no pressure and very friendly staff. This is also a part of the Wild West group so barfines are P1900 and lady drinks P300. If you buy up to 3 LD's, the P900 is deducted from the barfine. For this reason alone everyone should support the Wild West group. My only problem here was many of the girls were too young for my taste (18-20). I know....I'm weird. Lots of cuties though.
High Heels. Another place with lots of hotties. For some reason though they only have 3-4 girls dancing at a time with another 20 walking around trying to get drinks or in the back relaxing. This bar should be on your "Can't Miss" list though because of the exceptional talent. Barfines are P3000 and there is medium pressure for LD's. I wish they'd change their style though and have more girls dancing. Ratio-wise, this place had the most stunners I saw on this visit. I should have spent more time here.
Montana. Barfines here are P2500. I couldn't help myself and grabbed one out of here. Talent is pretty good and LD pressure is limited. My memories of this bar are kind of foggy. All I can recall is I had a damn good time and my barfine stayed until I politely asked her to leave the next day at 4 PM. I like it when you can add a couple of rounds the next day and no additional cost.
Stardust. Very good layout and a better than average lineup. It's down on the far side near Montana and Ringside. The bar itself is very cool and has a nice elevated stage. Unfortunately I think it's also the most expensive bar in the Burgos area. P400 for a whiskey/coke (about $8 US) and P3500 barfines. This place wasn't here on my last trip so they haven't been open very long. Overcharging customers is not the way to recoup your construction costs. It's almost double the price of Flamingos with 1/5 the number of girls. Not much incentive to stay here.
Fridays. Very fun bar with a decent lineup. My biggest regret from this trip was not barfining one girl I liked in here. Only limited pressure for LD's and I like the free popcorn. This is also out of the main area down across from Jools. Bars in this area tend to be a little wilder and at one point several were dancing around topless in here.
Ringside. A cool place to visit once. It does have some cutie dancers but what distinguishes this bar are the female boxing matches they have nightly starting at midnight between girls from competing bars. The night I was there a Billboard girl boxed a girl from Mascara. Now these are not real boxing matches. Each round only lasts about a minute and not many punches are thrown but it's worth checking out just to see something different. Very cool staff and owner too. They are trying to do something different so check it out while you're there.
Wow. Another new bar down across from Jools. This place was thumping when I went on a Monday night. They have a pretty good lineup and very little LD pressure. The setup is pretty cool and they have several small stages built around a multilayer interior. Depending on where you sit, it seems like you are surrounded by dancing girls. This bar also claims to be the only bar on Burgos that does lapdances. I don't think this place is on many people's radar yet but it will be soon.
Flamingo. Has the most girls of any club on Burgos and many of them are stunners. A part of the Wild West group so the barfines are also cheaper. This has to be on your "Can't Miss" list. The sign as you're walking in says something like "100 Babes & 3 Ugly Ones" and it's the truth. Many of the stunners are gone by 11 PM so hit it early.
Bottoms. The wildest place on the main drag of Burgos. Lots of pretty girls but lots of pressure too. A better than average lineup with some of the more energetic dancers you'll see. This is another place that doesn't mind giving a happy finish in the VIP. This place opens at 2 PM and is quiet during the day but can get a little too loud and crazy for some at night. I like it though because there are always tons of good dancers. Go between the hours of 8 PM - 11 PM when the day staff and night staff overlap.
Matrix. Freelancer bar that tries to be like LA Cafe. It's not bad but I didn't see anything to shoot for the night I went. Totally hit or miss but its not a bad place to hangout if you just want to chill. I enjoy sitting outside at the tables and watching the people traffic but I really wish they'd put up signs or a security guard to keep the peddlers and beggars away. If you're sitting outside, you'll get approached by all of them sooner or later.
Jools. This place offers a low rent version of a Vegas show but also does have some GRO's. I didn't pop in on this visit as I don't care much for the show they have and didn't want to pay the cover charge to see it. Jools does get bonus points in my book for trying to be different. It's just not my cup of tea. They'd be wise to do away with the covercharge; especially on weekdays.
Other notables: Ivory, Mascara, Blush, Bubbles, Dimples. All very standard fare with average lineups and limited pressure. I believe all have VIP rooms but if you're only on Burgos for one night, these don't need to be on the "Can't Miss" list.
Side notes: Several mamasans told me that the bars with VIP rooms will not take anyone in there for a happy finish if you even remotely look Filipino. Asians with a tan can forget it. The local cops try to bust these places from time to time and they take no chances as happy finishes are apparently frowned upon by local law enforcement. Even Latinos may have trouble.
Should you want it, don't buy the imitation viagra/cialis from the street vendors. It's not real. There is a pharmacy around the corner from McDonalds on Makati Ave. that sells real Cialis without a prescription.
Oh...and I need to mention this about the Filling station: They add 23% of taxes and service charges to your bill for everything you order. The food is decent but not good enough to justify P450 (about $9 US) after the charges were added for an omlette and coke. Unless you're starving and have no other choice, don't eat here. If it's late and you are one of those people who likes a meal before going home, there is another 24 hour restaurant right across the street from the City Garden hotel called North Park. Its local and Chinese style fare with mostly rice and noodle dishes but its pretty damn good at 2 in the morning. We had a P220 order of beef and brocoli fried rice that two of us could barely finish. It that's not your preference, I'm told the McDonalds delivers.
I did all of my barhopping solo and had no problems anywhere (including Quezon & EDSA) so you scaredy cats can do the same. I didn't do any freelancers or massage girls though I saw dozens of both cruising Burgos. If you are into that sort of thing, they seem to hangout between Flamingo and the first money changer along the shops that are closed for the evening. Many more congregate on the corner near the Makati Palace hotel but they are just a little too rough around the edges for my taste and they don't get mandatory medical checks so you're rolling the dice. I was in Manila in mid-September 2006 so all of this info will probably be out-of-date by late October if it isnt' already. Enjoy!
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Thank you for the clarification. Nevertheless, what/where is "the ground level, and not the main 2nd level" of GB3.
Thanks again.
There are several branches of Cafe Havana,One in Malate infront of Cafe Adriatico.One in Greenbelt 3 near Starbucks and one coming up in Cebu.Hope this Clarifies things Cheers
Frequent Flier
10-02-06, 05:06
I did all of my barhopping solo and had no problems anywhere (including Quezon & EDSA) so you scaredy cats can do the same. I didn't do any freelancers or massage girls though I saw dozens of both cruising Burgos. If you are into that sort of thing, they seem to hangout between Flamingo and the first money changer along the shops that are closed for the evening. Many more congregate on the corner near the Makati Palace hotel but they are just a little too rough around the edges for my taste and they don't get mandatory medical checks so you're rolling the dice. I was in Manila in mid-September 2006 so all of this info will probably be out-of-date by late October if it isnt' already. Enjoy!
Excellent report Soju,
I have linked it in the reports of distinction.
Even though you write that your report may be old news soon I can attest that many of the bars you reported on have been as you described them for years on end. So I think your report will stand the test of time.
When a member tells someone to RTFF, this report is exactly what they are referring to. All the information you need about P. Burgos Street in one report.
FF
Cebu Local
10-02-06, 23:27
Thank you for the clarification. Nevertheless, what/where is "the ground level, and not the main 2nd level" of GB3.
Thanks again.Ground Level is where Starbucks is located beside Cafe Havana and Cafe Breton.The main 2nd level is where the restaurants such as Bubba Bumps,Sentro,Seafood Club etc are located.Have a great day
White Wolf
10-02-06, 23:31
Thank you for the clarification. Nevertheless, what/where is "the ground level, and not the main 2nd level" of GB3.
Thanks again.
What he meant was that when you walk to GB3 from the direction of GB1 the first thing most people do when reaching GB3 is to take the escalator to the second floor. I'm not sure if they are still busy with construction but they were last May and I could understand people going up there or inside GB1.
On the second floor you will encounter a lot of nice restaurants but not Cafe Havana. If you continue walking you will see a stairs on your left hand which will bring you back to the ground floor and just in between Cafe Havana and Starbucks.
White Wolf
10-02-06, 23:39
Does anyone knows some others place of massage in Makati?
There is that one
Phoenix1 Massage parlor in the Roman Suite Hotel on Armaiz Av. or on Pasay road, San Lorenzo Village.
Well I am not sure about the adress.
Some others adresses massage parlor in some others cities in Metro Manila would be good too.
Phoenix 1 is a good one, as is Palacio Don Pedro on Don Pedro street, very close to Burgos street. Both are not really focused on massage and if you want a good massage it's better to ask if they got a girl on that shift that knows how to give a good one.
A lot of hotels have inhouse spa's and some attendants while cater for some extra services, like Shangri-La, Dunsit, Peninsula.
If you like a good clean massage (without extras) go to the Spa in greenbelt 1.
Does anyone knows some others place of massage in Makati?
There is that one
Phoenix1 Massage parlor in the Roman Suite Hotel on Armaiz Av. or on Pasay road, San Lorenzo Village.
Well I am not sure about the adress.
Some others adresses massage parlor in some others cities in Metro Manila would be good too.For clean service, I reccomend the SPA in Greenbelt, or a beautiful palce in Tagaytay (Nurtrure SPA).
For some extra, I usually go to New Magellan (near Miss Brunette, which should be actually closed), or I can any in-room service from the hotel. The best in-room service, from my point of view, is offered by Oxford Suites (on Burgos St. corner with Durban). The massage is usually very good (and clean), and only after a good massage they offer some extra service. My favourite lady is Berna. If you want her cell number, just PM me. She can come to your room, if you are located in a different hotel.
Please let me know if you have any great experience is some different place.
Having been told many times the only stupid questions is one not asked, and the fact I never spent much time in that part of town - can you tell me what do you mean by "GB1, GB2, GB3, etc."
Thank you.
Ground Level is where Starbucks is located beside Cafe Havana and Cafe Breton.The main 2nd level is where the restaurants such as Bubba Bumps,Sentro,Seafood Club etc are located.Have a great day
Having been told many times the only stupid questions is one not asked, and the fact I never spent much time in that part of town - can you tell me what do you mean by "GB1, GB2, GB3, etc."
Thank you.GB is for GreenBelt. It's a mall in Makati, close to Glorietta, SM, Landmark, etc.
Ilongo_boy
10-04-06, 14:36
For clean service, I reccomend the SPA in Greenbelt, or a beautiful palce in Tagaytay (Nurtrure SPA).
For some extra, I usually go to New Magellan (near Miss Brunette, which should be actually closed), or I can any in-room service from the hotel. The best in-room service, from my point of view, is offered by Oxford Suites (on Burgos St. corner with Durban). The massage is usually very good (and clean), and only after a good massage they offer some extra service. My favourite lady is Berna. If you want her cell number, just PM me. She can come to your room, if you are located in a different hotel.
Please let me know if you have any great experience is some different place.
Etami,
If you don't mind please PM her cell number. The SPA also has a location near burgos on Jupiter street...more amenities that GB...whirlpool, sauna, steam room etc.
Thanks.
IB
There are several branches of Cafe Havana,One in Malate infront of Cafe Adriatico.One in Greenbelt 3 near Starbucks and one coming up in Cebu.Hope this Clarifies things CheersCafe Havana has been open in Cebu for at least a year. I have eaten there twice. It is at Ayala between Starbuks and Marriot.
Cebu Local
10-05-06, 09:54
Cafe Havana has been open in Cebu for at least a year. I have eaten there twice. It is at Ayala between Starbuks and Marriot.I am aware of the Ayala location But the owner Jay Aldeguer was talking of relocating.I wasnt sure If he did,Thanks
I am in Makati now.
I haven't tried any options relatives our hobby.
I have just met a girl, that I was in touch on internet for a few months and we go out together now.
I will try later some options in Makati and I will report it.
Is it possible to withdraw more than 4000 ph here? or more than 80 dollars?
I'd like to withdraw about 200 or 300 US dollars just in one time.
DOES ANYONE KNOWS IN WHICH BANK TO GO? OR WHICH ATM TO USE?
Thanks in advance
I am in Makati now.
I haven't tried any options relatives our hobby.
I have just met a girl, that I was in touch on internet for a few months and we go out together now.
I will try later some options in Makati and I will report it.
Is it possible to withdraw more than 4000 ph here? or more than 80 dollars?
I'd like to withdraw about 200 or 300 US dollars just in one time.
DOES ANYONE KNOWS IN WHICH BANK TO GO? OR WHICH ATM TO USE?
Thanks in advanceYes if you use a HSBC auto teller you can draw your daily USA, or country limit. In Australia this would be 36000p in one draw. There is a HSBC auto teller in Robinson Mall near L.A. Cafe
I am in Makati now.
I haven't tried any options relatives our hobby.
I have just met a girl, that I was in touch on internet for a few months and we go out together now.
I will try later some options in Makati and I will report it.
Is it possible to withdraw more than 4000 ph here? or more than 80 dollars?
I'd like to withdraw about 200 or 300 US dollars just in one time.
DOES ANYONE KNOWS IN WHICH BANK TO GO? OR WHICH ATM TO USE?
Thanks in advance
You can try the BPI ATM in Greenbelt 3 ground floor just inside the building from the courtyard. This would be the entrance next to Cafe Havana. I have gotten Php20000 from there. Only thing I didn't like about that machine was that it only served up Php500 notes so that's a pretty thick wad of cash when you're taking out that much. On the other hand, it's somewhat possible to be discreet there. Guess I'll try HSBC next time I'm in Manila.
Stay away from the ATMs on the street, they all have low limits. Including BPI.
Citibank in Saledo village,Makati is also a good option for large withdrawls
Soju Lizard
10-08-06, 08:43
Soju Lizard,
Thank you for providing such a great report as it really helped me put my trip together. I was considering how many days I wanted to spend on Burgoss Street and your report influenced my decision. You really did a great job and for a newbie like me it is became very valuable.No problem. I had fun doing the research. :-)
Make sure you hit the other areas of Manila too such as EDSA and the Ermita area (LA Cafe and Stringfellows). If you have the time, Angeles City has a lot more than Burgos (approx 100 clubs) and the bars & barfines are half the price of Manila. You can find tons of info on AC on this board. It's worth the hour trip for sure.
Have fun and let us know how good your experience was in the Phils. Best of luck!
Thanks a lot guys.
At the end I could withdraw 15000 with a Cirrus card....
I've been to Renaissance World hotel, but there is nothing on the 3 thd floor. I took the main entrance.
I think the aquarium is on the other entrance, but I couldn't get it because there were cleaning the place......
The other entrance is on Armaiz Av.
I doubt now if Phoenix 1 is really in World Renaissance hotel.....
Cebu Local
10-08-06, 11:21
Thanks a lot guys.
At the end I could withdraw 15000 with a Cirrus card....
I've been to Renaissance World hotel, but there is nothing on the 3 thd floor. I took the main entrance.
I think the aquarium is on the other entrance, but I couldn't get it because there were cleaning the place......
The other entrance is on Armaiz Av.
I doubt now if Phoenix 1 is really in World Renaissance hotel.....
It is located ACROSS the street from the hotel in the Roman Suites Building NOT INSIDE the hotel
Hi Cebu Local,
So if I understand you well, it's located across the street ARMAIZ?
Or is it just in front of the main entrance???
Hi Cebu Local,
So if I understand you well, it's located across the street ARMAIZ?
Or is it just in front of the main entrance???
It is on Arnaiz Ave. between Makati Avenue and Paseo de Roxas, right across the street from New World Hotel. No sign. Just a banner.
LoveAsianWhores
10-10-06, 12:46
I am in Makati now.
I haven't tried any options relatives our hobby.
I have just met a girl, that I was in touch on internet for a few months and we go out together now.
I will try later some options in Makati and I will report it.
Is it possible to withdraw more than 4000 ph here? or more than 80 dollars?
I'd like to withdraw about 200 or 300 US dollars just in one time.
DOES ANYONE KNOWS IN WHICH BANK TO GO? OR WHICH ATM TO USE?
Thanks in advance
Citibank lets me draw $3,000 at a time. I am a citibank customer, so I dont know the limits for non-customers, but it is probably the same as your home bank withdrawl limit.
Last week I had my second visit to Makati this year, so keen to visit some different bars on Burgos. Started with Flamingo and was not to be disappointed. Not to start with anyway. Was very impressed with the quality and number of girls around, and the terrific party atmosphere in the place. Upon sitting down was quickly surrounded by girls, but when choose two to sit with the others did not complain and quickly melted away.
The two that I sat with were only 5/10’s but were good fun, so intended to buy them a drink and have a laugh for a while and then go looking for more talent. However started having a rollocking good time with these two, involving an ongoing lap dance from one of them, which is a novelty for me (like I said only my second visit to Makati…). A little while later and they mentioned that they were working together, and if barfined together would perform together. Hmm…might need to stay with these two after all, as attitude and performance is often preferable to stunning looks anyway….
Reality check! At this point someone to my left stands up and holds an unfolded document. For a split second I thought he wanted his bill, until the girls whispered “police, don’t worry”, and all the girls briskly made their way out the back. Lights on, and to my amazement despite all the girls and great atmosphere there were only one other customer and I! My first raid like this but actually I was entirely relaxed, and thought that this ought to be entertaining, thinking it would be over in half an hour and we would be back to normal. Unfortunately after a few minutes it was evident that it would be more than half an hour. Girls reappeared on the seating on the far side of the bar, in normal clothes and huddling together to shield their faces from the police cameras. The police had not bothered me at all as I sat observing this, and in fact had apologized a couple of times for the inconvenience! Seeing that the girls were not dressed for success any more however I thought it best to move on.
Briefly checked out Mogambo, another bar in the same ‘group’ as Flamingo, however not a single customer and the girls looked half asleep. Around to Wild West therefore and sat down. Not a lot on display however decided to chat to one cute girl in the typical for Burgos sparse dress code. I was aware that this bar is also under the same management as Flamingo, and it turned out to be a bad choice as they were very nervous following the raid that had just happened next door, especially when word arrived that all of the girls had been lead away. It therefore turned out that I was to sit with three girls, the one I had bought a drink for, plus my ‘girlfriend’ and my ‘girlfriend’s friend’, who were sitting with normal clothes but had in fact been working. The atmosphere was anything other than relaxed, however thinking this might turn out to be an opportunity I stuck it out and rehearsed stories with my ‘girlfriend’ about how we had met. After a while however I got sick of this and decided to make a move. The mamasan decided to take the opportunity to get the two out of there, and we arranged that I would walk them around the block (at which point I would ask them if they wanted to accompany me for food…). However as I opened the door to go they waved goodbye! Still not sure what that was all about then…
Checked out Cuddles next, a couple of great options if you like them slim, however I like to have a little bit of padding to hold on to.
Back to my favourite from last time then, Bottoms. Wow. Talked with two attractive girls for a while (actually listened to one go on and on and on about Philippe history, politics, economy and goodness knows what for at least half an hour) until one of them suddenly asked if I am shy. I replied a bit, so she suggested we retreat to the smoking area, which is behind tinted glass. I am a bit shy, so all I will say is that if you go to Bottoms, suggest to the girl(s) you sit in the smoking area and see what happens…
By this time it was about 3.30am, and the girls were due to finish in half an hour. I will not divulge the girls identity as they would get fined by the bar, however they requested my hotel room number and mentioned they would come up once finished. Little over half an hour later, and there they were, with another of the girls who had been hanging around (“I hope you don’t mind…err….not at all!). Expecting them to take turns while the others waited in the bathroom, I was to be very pleasantly surprised. The next hour and a half I will never ever forget…
Tipped P2500 each would might be a little much but not considering they had saved me P3000 bar fines.
Second night to follow in a separate report…
Wicked Roger
10-11-06, 16:55
My first raid like this but actually I was entirely relaxed, and thought that this ought to be entertaining, thinking it would be over in half an hour and we would be back to normal. .
Mianbao
I'm from the UAE thread, play mainly with Filipinas in Abu Dhabi and Dubai, am in Makati for 2 nights max from tomorrow night late, at Oxford Suites where I haev stayed before.
If you fancy meeting up - and any nother Makati/manila monger for that matter, please PM me. Assuming I get the laptop to work wwhen I check in, I will check the PMs. Leave a mobile if you do PM and I will contact.
Last time I was in Makati, I liked Flamingos and Wild West, better quality etc. Bottoms is IMHO the wildest of the lot on Burgos, had a good time there as well but perferred the otehr 2 places, but after your FR may have to double check again. Visitede a number of palces in Burgos but just liked the first two above had a nice Cebu girl from Flamingos, reminded me of the UAE when I was with her!
My last night in Makati I was accompnied by a WG (Filipina) from the UAE - my personal favourite - she came up from the provinces to see me and show me the bars her style, a very nice and very horny time. Likely she will be back again as she knows I am in town so if interested in meeting her (and me of course) just PM me.
Thanks guys
Keep hard and horny
WR
Second night in Makati, and following an earlier post on this thread I intended to check out Café Havana in Greenbelt 3. Got there about 10pm on a Wednesday evening, however it did not look too promising. There were plenty of people about but the vast majority were couples – no obvious single women or women in groups either inside the café or outside. Sat in Starbucks for a while to kill time as it had started raining, however 40 minutes later no obvious improvement, so therefore got in a taxi for Burgos.
Sat in Bubbles bar and bought a drink for a cute girl that had caught my eye. Would have spent more time with her but unfortunately she was ‘working together’ with her friend, who did not interest me at all (very average looking). On my other side sat someone who was past her use by date, and kept trying to tell corny jokes but failed to remember the punchline every time. Seemed pretty upset that I didn’t buy her a drink, but why should I pay her for being boring? All I wanted was for her to go away and I dropped plenty of clear hints…
After a while therefore decided to leave, a bit of a shame as the booths behind the stage could be curtained off, and I would have liked to have known what could happen there. Some of the girls on the stage (there were only five of them) were reasonably sexy (better than the ones I was with) but preferred to go to a different bar than do a switch.
Walked up to Ivory/Jungle (not sure which exactly – the door was on the corner). There were a LOT of very hot women in here. I was quickly surrounded once I sat down and despite my protestations I could not get any space to make a careful choice about who to sit with. Anyway managed to push away the two that had sat next to me and choose two others from the circle that had surrounded me. One had a low cut top and was well endowed (despite still being reasonably slim), and the other was wearing a reveling top that covered her tits while exposing the center, and with no bra of course. Couldn’t really resist that…
After a couple of rounds and the one with the revealing top bouncing up and down on my lap for a while I was presented with the ‘options’. This involved pulling a curtain and getting the maximum of a BJ, or going to a private room upstairs. I think there was a third option but cannot remember what that was. Anyway I must have had one drink too many, as at this point I did what I have never done before and allowed myself to get carried away. I accepted to go upstairs for the price of five girl drinks per girl, accompanied by three girls. Up in the room before the action started I protested that the drinks I already bought were not being subtracted, however my protests fell on deaf ears. Thought about walking out but stupid me signed, forgetting that this was the room fee only and did not include girls tips! P8,000 for three girls would have been fine by me if the tips were included, however including tips I spent P11,000…something I very much regret! It was a buyers market after all as lots of girls and only a couple of customers.
I did like Miss Exposed quite a lot, so after the deed upstairs I managed to persuade her to come to my hotel after work (4am). She duly turned up with two friends in tow. She quickly showered and wrapped in a towel got junior out and started stroking, with her two friends looking on. Not sure if they would have joined in or not, however had spent more than enough that night anyway so pretended to be a bit shy so the friends took the instant noodles and chips from the mini-bar and retreated to the bathroom. End result was an OK shag in return for a tip, no bar fine of course. Realised the following morning though that my stupidity had no ended while in the bar however, as part of her tip was a HK$500 which I had mistaken for Pesos…hence I had over-spent once again…
It was a fun night but it bothers me that it should have been cheaper. I am not a cheap Charlie but prefer to pay reasonable market rates.
Moral of story – know in advance exactly what you are going for and what you are going to pay, and then stick to it!
Cheers,
Mianbao.
I'm sorry for ignorance, but where is Makiti in relation to Manila and Angeles City? A quick geograghy lesson please! DF
I've been today at Phoenix 1 to get a nice massage.
The place is not exactly in front of New World Renaissance, but very close in front of anyway.
Just look for a blue building and that's the grey one just besides.
The number of the street will help you a lot. That's 914 Arnaiz Av.
I don't think you can see that number on the wall. I couldn't see it, but I could see the number 916, so I knew I was very close to it.
Thanks to the guys, who gave indications about that.
We also accept your apology for general laziness....as in not doing a simple Internet search.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makati_City
I'm sorry for ignorance, but where is Makiti in relation to Manila and Angeles City? A quick geograghy lesson please! DF
Wicked Roger
10-13-06, 17:39
Fellow Mongers
I am a regular on the UAE board and sometimes come to Manila for a break (ie work). Thought I had 2 nights in Makati but due to the airline and traffic in Manila which always seems worse than the last time, it ended up being one. Also work intervened as I arrived – various people to call in the USA and Europe meant I was still working the emails around 4am with a 7am wake up call for meetings in Manila.
Now my favourite UAE WG (Nikki or Miss N as she is affectionately known by UAE mongers) was supposed to meet me in Makati and take me around the bars. Last time she said this, she turned up but with a conservative sister in tow. Not much fun but we had a ball privately. This she did not appear but fortunately for UAE mongers who like sexy slim and very kinky Filipinas she is back in the UAE next week so I will see her after all :).
So what do, well I RTFF read the recent excellent reports on the bars (thanks Mianbao), stayed at Oxford Suites as I did last time (though will take up Loso69’s suggestion about Angeles next time when I have more than a day and a half in the Philippines). Bars all around, women all around, plus the numerous fake watch, pen and V and C sellers. Really enjoy the atmosphere here so I always stay here rather than the posher hotel.
During the course of the day I was wondering where to go, how many I would bar fine etc just to keep the old grey cells moving along. While in a taxi the driver asked me if I was looking for a girl as he had a cousin, 23, slim and sexy who was looking for a westerner. Now I have heard this many time in many countries, claims she is not a WG, claims sexy etc and its ends be a chubby ‘dog’. Nothing against them of course but not my taste. So we talked and he called her, I spoke asked a few mindless questions about how shaved her pussy was ;) had she ever shagged a westerner to which she replied yes and no. My mojo was rising, asked again that she was not WG etc, not a bar masquerading as a cousin etc.
Now when the mojo rises my UAE mongers know the brain goes south so I said yes and then wondered what the f**k I was doing given all the bars in Makati. But I said yes, I am gentleman until they get to know me and I was going to honour the meeting I promised her.
She did not disappoint. She is from the Angeles area and was quite stunning IMHO, tallish Filipina, perfectly proportioned, great soft lips, great DFK (later), nice rack and arse. So we went for a walk around Makati, coffee and cakes at Starbucks, more talk, more holding hands and discrete touching and then back to hotel for quick change, but not before some DFK and fondling. I am a gent and she was hungry so was I ;) but we went to a Japanese place and then we visited bars en route back to the hotel.
She said she was a province girl, she acted very shy and said she had never been in a bar. If true and she was convincing and I think genuine, she was with the right person armed with his RTFF knowledge and a previous visit.
So went to Wild West which was not as wild as the last time, in fact disappointing for me. Rogues was much livelier better quality ladies, beer was cheaper and more noise. More my place in Makati. After that Bottoms which was also good, nice looking ladies in lingerie, good music even if the dancers were a bit wooden at times. Still a nice place and more enjoyable than when I was last there. We still talked, she was accosted by the mamasans about where she worked, saying she was A grade and asked her to work for them. She seemed shocked but after 2 San Miguels she was up dancing, swinging her hips and fondling me so she was obviously having a good time. Six beers later for her (I rarely drink) she was rocking, her soft lips all over me and it was time to head home for some wicked rogering.
Oxford Suites is very GF, great bunch of staff. In the lift an elderly man with a very young WG. Quite tasty and my friend asked about the barfine, where she worked and if she really was going to shag the guy whose beer belly was enormous. All in a normal conversation in the lift.
In my room we return the light down, and WR starts to unwind the best way he knows how. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, mish, doggy, straddle. No CIM but that is for next time. Tried Greek (I bought my flavoured lube in case I managed to find a WG who liked ATM) but not successful in full but a promise of next time for devirginisation :) and finished all over her stomach.
Very nice, great time, had another round before she had to go home to the family. No name guys, I will call her when I return she was great fun. Body 7/10, face 8/10, GFE 9/10. Price – nothing and that’s the lovely end to the story which helps me understand she is not a WG. I said I would pay for a taxi as late but she refused said too expensive she would get the bus. No money changed hands so I am a lucky monger.
No pics either she would not allow and I would not push and who can blame me. Also bought a new digital camera in Dubai DF and as yet it remains unpacked so it would have been difficult during the rogering to try and unwrap and charge a new camera.
Have enjoyed my one night, its very late, am up very early today but maybe one last look around the bars…..
Keep hard and horny and thanks for the great reports on the bar scene here. Excellent reading and very informative.
WR
Thanks for the link xman, it's not really laziness, it's just serious information overload! I've saved so much info and references, I'm getting lost in it! Do you remember preparing for your 1st trip/move into the unknown?
We also accept your apology for general laziness....as in not doing a simple Internet search.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Makati_City
DON PEDRO PALACE on Don Pedro Street near Burgos is another place like Phoenix 1.
I paid 1500 ph for 1 hour 30.
The girl asked me for extra 2000 ph.
I told her that I had only 1000 ph.
After 10 min. she agreed for 1000 ph for extra.
They all asked 2000 ph for extra, you have to make the price lower.....
Just go on Bugos street and there take a moto taxi, that's very close, but that's a small street and not easy on foot.....
DON PEDRO PALACE on Don Pedro Street near Burgos is another place like Phoenix 1.
I paid 1500 ph for 1 hour 30.
The girl asked me for extra 2000 ph.
I told her that I had only 1000 ph.
After 10 min. she agreed for 1000 ph for extra.
They all asked 2000 ph for extra, you have to make the price lower.....
Just go on Bugos street and there take a moto taxi, that's very close, but that's a small street and not easy on foot.....
Entry fee and tip depend on the time of day at this place. Not sure of the schedule, but recommend you should search this thread for earlier reports on this MP.
If you're already at P.Burgos St, there's no need to take a taxi, even a moto taxi from there. Surely your two feet can walk 2 measly blocks east on Kalayaan from Burgos St and look to your left. Sheeesh, the laziness of some people...
BTW, I know it's a small detail, but the correct name is Palacio Don Pedro.
Near the "Burgos" (not spelled correctly?) area - Got a chance to slip away from my hotel for a couple of hours and returned to the scene of past crimes. Avoided all the Burgos bar hawkers. The girls on the street were mostly cold with avoidance/defensive syndromes, which I really didn't understand. I just figured if they were reasonably hot and out walking in that area at night, they were fair game. They certainly appeared to be working girls of some variety. No matter - at Imperial Health, you know what you are going to get.
I got #32, "Ace" or "Gracie" as she later told me. About 5' 0 "', maybe 90 pounds, probably 20-22 years old. Very fun to be with. GREAT little rear end, legs and nice tits. Decent massage, lots of playfulness and good cheer -
1300 pesos for 75 minutes, then 1500 for her special services. She gave me her cell phone number and offered to come to my hotel tonight after she gets off work (11 PM). I would LOVE for that to happen!! But ... quite impossible due to a wife being in the room! Besides, I'm actually working until 2 AM.
Finally found the place. It's on Arnaiz Street, right behind the Renaissance New World Hotel, Makati. It is totally unsigned, though, so you have to find 916 Arnaiz (or is it 914, can't remember) - but there's a JVC store next to it. Usually there's a guard or two hanging around those general buildings, so just ask where is Phoenix 1 - that's what I did. When you enter the building, you feel like you're entering a small hotel lobby (and maybe you are!), with a bellman who does a quick security check, and if you ask him, like I did, he'll point you up the stairwell on the left side of the room. On the right side is a reception desk of some kind.
I went up the stairs to the first turn, then looked back at the bellman for a directional pointer, "where next?" He indicated to just keep going around and up, to the right. The wide, carpeted stairs then became a stone-laden, more narrow set of steps. At the top, there was another reception desk, but vacant. After a half minute or so of wondering what to do/where to go next, a guy walked in and ushered me into another room where the real reception desk was.
Nice (beautiful actually) girl with good English told me to take a look. Behind the large window sat three rows of approximately 18 girls. Some had numbers, some had a letter. Although they told me it was a one-way mirror, several of the girls had direct eye contact with me and even as I moved back and forth, their eyes stayed locked on mine. One-way mirror, huh?? LOL
Lot's of 7s and 8s and a 9 or 2. Mainly I look for petite girls who are likely to have the best asses and stomachs. I also look for facial expression, smiles, liveliness - if a girl never looks away from watching TV, or keeps her head pointed down looking at the floor with a sad or angry face, those are immediately crossed off the list, no matter if they look like Eva Longoria.
I narrowed it down to 3, then asked the receptionist to recommend someone who is affectionate and sweet. However, I already had a gut feeling about letter "T", so wound up picking her.
Charged the 'bar fine' of P1400 on my Visa card. The rooms are spacious - separate bathroom, sitting area, room divider, then the bedroom. The attendant turned on the aircon and the TV. I turned the TV off. I won't tolerate a girl watching any damn TV when she's supposed to be concentrating on the paying customer.
"T" knocks lightly and enters the room. I knew within minutes that my gut feeling was right-on. "Uno" is her name. We had some small-talk, then I started giving her some massage (I'm trained) and she started groaning, "Oh my god, that's Sooo good!"
Soon we're talking about extra service. She wants P2000, and I try negotiating down of course, but she's all pouty and I'm wondering if my overall experience is going to suffer. I give in - hell, it's 10 extra bucks. Besides, she's a solid 9 in my book, and I could tell from our early connection that I was in for a good time. If I am getting what I want, then why shouldn't she get what she wants? Fair enough.
Well....maybe not quite. But still. She's about 5'0", probably 90-95 pounds, GREAT ass (the only truly PERFECT one I've ever seen in my life belonged to a 28-year-old Vietnamese I met in Singapore, years ago). Great stomach, great face, great hair, nice round tits and nipples for such a petite girl. No kids. She staddled my right thigh between her legs and slid her pussy back and forth until I could feel it getting wet, while she held onto my throbbing cock, closed her eyes in the direction of the ceiling, and was obviously getting into it. Or one hell of an actress. Frankly, I don't care which it is.
Here are the down sides to the whole experience: BJ was covered, and she wouldn't let me reciprocate - and making matters worse (in my mind) - she told me that activity would only be Ok if I was her boyfriend. I let it go (or the 3 vodka tonics I had earlier let it go). No matter ... you never quite know what you're getting into 'down there' anyway. But the covered BJ part was disappointing. I will say this, though - she made eye contact and worshipped the cock - I enjoyed watching her adoration and performance.
Soon she was mounting me and thrashing around, and she kept saying how big I was (I'm not) and how good it felt, and that she was going to come several times - please not to come until she got at least two finishes. I told her it would be my pleasure. I love watching a girl come. She asked me to go on top and I pounded her like a jackhammer until she had what seemed to be a whole-body orgasm.
Then I turned her over and doggie-styled. For some reason, I just couldn't shoot it, so I took off the damned condom and she told me to lay down while she lubed up her hands. She was fairly willing to accomodate whatever I wanted (except DATY), and soon I was obliging her requests to watch me come - she kept saying, "I want to see it come out!" And when I did, she bent over close, exlaiming with pleasure, "ohh! ohh! so many! so nice!" with each spasm.
Was walking through the outdoor cafe area of Greenbelt 3, which is the normal path to take coming from Landmark store to the Renaissance Hotel, and I was running late for a conference call. But, there was a girl, sitting alone at a table amidst a bunch of tables jammed with people having lively conversation. We made brief eye contact, then when I turned around again, she was still looking at me with that "come hither" look.
I returned quickly, explained that I'd love to stay but that I had to be on a conference call, after which I'd come back and sit with her if she was still there. She said, "I wait for you." She did.
At 10 PM I came back and she, "Cynthia" had her friend "Nellie" with her. I had another conference call (East coast US) at 1 AM, so finally we got to talking about a S/T arrangement. P2000 everything, for 3 hours - wound up being 2.5 hours, but only because I was too drunk and too exhausted even to finish. She did everything she could do, including BBBJ and multiple positions, hand job, etc. One thing I didn't care for (never do!) is that distinctly unpleasant odor coming from the triangle. I was trying to ignore it, but we were under a sheet - no ventilation!
I have to say this about the whole Greenbelt scene: I've been reading all the posts about it, but every night between 7pm and 11pm I have walked through that same area, only to find a ton of tables full of people, but mostly guys, all of whom are acting like I'm competition and try staring me down, as if to say, "Keep walking." Understandable, since I'm younger, better looking, in better shape and probably have a lot more money than most of them. (probably one of you were there - no offense - LOL)
Anyway, my point is, I kept thinking, "What's all the hype about Greenbelt?! The ratio appears to be about 5 guys to 1 girl ... not exactly the kind of odds I'm looking for. And the tables that have girls, the conversation is all girl chit-chat type of action, as if to say, "we're here to have fun, not to find guys". But last night I nabbed a Greenbelt-Girl. Ha - "GG" - did I just coin a new acronym?
Following the Greenbelt pickup, I indeed had another conference call, which finished at 2 AM, and I didn't want to give up on the idea of having a finish.
Went back to Phoenix 1 and requested the girl (Letter "T") from the previous post on this health club. Quite happy to see me, this time we dispensed with any talk of money and the "official massage" portion, and got down to business. I had laid some money on the table next to the bed, but the subject never even came up, nor did she even count it when we wrapped up.
She showered/washed me, then she took one by herself (per usual). This time I convinced her to let me DATY, and I think she liked it. I persuaded her also to give me BBBJ, which was quite good but she went to the next phase about a minute too early, or I would have come. We fucked hard, but I couldn't come - now super-exhausted and still with a blood-alcohol level of about 0.8, combined with 'the condom effect' - no feeling at all - but I have nice memories of her drooling all over my rigid staff and lowering her petite body and tight pussy onto my rock-hard cock.
Wicked Roger
10-22-06, 13:00
Fellow Mongers
Am back in Manila for 2 days before the Eid break in the UAE – methinks I should stay as a holiday in the UAE but I have more business in Europe so cannot. That really pissed me off! Different hotel this time, company seem to think that I should not be in the Oxford Suites (due to price reasons) and put me in the InterCon which is very nice. Am not too fussed as long as I get some nicely shaved Filipina pussy!
But it is not walking distance to P Burgos which is what I liked about Oxford Suites, all those bars (and pussy) within 100 metres of my hotel.
So being a man of habit who always returns to the same bit of the menu all the time (well nearly all the time) I called my 23 year old who I met last week the freebie, said I was in town and she willingly agreed to meet me at the airport, take me to the hotel, look after my every need (well nearly) and generally keep me out of mischief (well with other ladies but not her). This was fine for 24 hours as I had also arranged to meet Miss N again who was in Manila with the family staying before she returns to the UAE.
Now freebie is good – see the last FR I wrote, nice figure, lovely rack, no Greek last time, no pictures. Miss N is a hot and kinky chillie pepper, and was she hot :)
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=517998&postcount=1187
Freebie (as I will call her) was her usual attentive self, great BBBJ, DATY and DFK. Lots of shagging, loots of positions and all great fun. CIM this time (well I managed to persuade her) and more advanced Greek – I slowly eased my pork sword inside (naturally I used the lube but not the Xylocaine Gel I had with me) and for while we were rocking but when she said it was painful I stopped.
Went to a few bars in P Burgos – same a last time, same sort of results. Back to InterCon and we had more shagging. Miss N SMSed me during the night saying where am I staying, and she will be there at around 9am for ‘breakfast’ which for means, serious and very hot sex no holds barred. So I told her come around 10am as I was tired and I managed to get Freebie out of the door with a comment about having work etc.
Now for Miss N. An altogether different and hotter proposition for any monger – ask the guys in the UAE if you doubt me. She is slim, small rack, 28 years old, shaved, tight pussy, loves fucking white guys especially older ones like me, loves to watch herself in the mirror, wants to do a porno movie, wants a gangbang back in the UAE (that is being arranged by me and a few well known UAE mongers). All in all a red hot chillie pepper with a serious kinky side..well I am kinky and she loves the toys, the bondage, girl/girl etc. So I am a happy camper :)
She come to the hotel around 10am, I met her in the lobby, she looks stunning, always has her heels and had a bag with her - I call this the fucking bag which is basically her bag of goodies such as PVC clothes, toys etc. Security is tight at the InterCon which I think she knew about as there were no toys this time, just some clothes heels etc.
To cut a long FR short, we spend virtually all day in the hotel room. Everything is on the menu and eaten by WR who is basically a greedy pig ;). DFK, DATY, BBBJ, Greek, mish, doggy, reverse, CIM and swallow, ATM, bondage (well I bring some accessories including a ball and gag that she likes!) and more. Awesome and reminds why when she is back in the UAE she is my favourite and the favourite of a few other ISG mongers.
Dinner, short skirt, kommando (EU Contractor know how she keeps waiters attention), more of the same afterwards. We went to a few bars, Bottoms, Flamingo, Rogues but while we spoke to a few nice looking WGs none were keen on full girl/girl (ie 69, lots of licking and probing and licking N’s pussy while I take her doggy). Maybe because those we fancied were more ‘straight’ who knows, but no worries we had a great time speaking with the ladies, had a few beers and (for me) cokes, enjoyed watching (I am a voyeur) and maybe next time we get lucky – I know I will with her in Abu Dhabi so am not too bothered ;).
I am writing this while she sleeps and will have more tomorrow morning before I leave. Pictures I will post when I am back as not have the software on the work laptop (not allow me the bastards!).
Price – well Freebie is what is says. She enjoys my company what more can I say. Miss N – she has a good time, good company, dinner etc. She knows I will look after her in the UAE so she did not ask and when prompted just said “later” (ie in the UAE when she will need the cash). So WR is not complaining and will shag her further during the night after posting this FR and in the morning.
Strange in that I come here for business, try to meet new pussy but end up with a Freebie of last week and a favourite from the UAE. Maybe I am boring (my UAE friends will disagree with that I hope ;)) but I do like great shagging and IMHO Miss N is that so why turn it down.
Overall another nice trip to Manila despite the pollution, the traffic and the creaking infrastructure it was fun. Hotel is GF no hassles. Great time.
Keep hard and horny
WR
Wicked Roger
10-24-06, 06:44
Fellow Mongers
Last night in Manila and Miss N (Nikki) is still with following her arrival from the provinces to keep me warm for the morning before I fly back to the UAE. We basically do more of the same, no bars this time just straight out shagging for hours – I need energy pills as I am an old but perverted and kinky monger.
FRs can get a bit boring and long so I will do a short version and will attach pics as well as I know we all look at those :)
Miss N is wild, very hot very kinky loves all forms of sex, wants a gangbang in the UAE, loves Greek, loves ATM and CIM/swallow (her “medicine”) loves to wear heels, stockings, PVC and play with all forms of toys plus a mild bondage fetish…so WR is a happy camper :)
We shag for hours all over the hotel room, we watch porno on the laptop and shag, we shag in front of the mirror – she wants to star in her own porno movie so she is
practicing ;) and I am her teacher!
Basically a good time I was exhausted, she was knackered, we were well satisfied.
InterCon is very GF, very pleasant staff, nice hotel albeit more pricey than Oxford Suites and away from the Makati/P Burgos bar action but a taxi ride overcomes that.
All in all another great stay in Manila. Miss N should be ‘home’ soon (ie the UAE) and me and a few other ISG mongers believe it is not a day too soon
Enjoy the pics
Keep hard and horny
WR
Asian Rain
10-24-06, 11:16
Miss N is wild, very hot very kinky loves all forms of sex, wants a gangbang in the UAE, loves Greek, loves ATM and CIM/swallow (her “medicine”) loves to wear heels, stockings, PVC and play with all forms of toys plus a mild bondage fetish…
...she wants to star in her own porno movie so she is practicing ;) and I am her teacher!You've practiced more than enough. Time to put her on video. I'm here to help... :) AR+
Wicked Roger
10-24-06, 19:14
You've practiced more than enough. Time to put her on video. I'm here to help... :) AR+
Next time I am in Manila it will be a pleasure AR for all of us ;)
She is truly very keen, just loves shagging the right guy - older, white, nice manners but kinky all the same (me to a tee!).
Enjoyed the latest splooge fest, N perfers CIM and swallow - says I have lots of protein that she needs and I agree ;)
WR
Luv China Pussy
11-06-06, 08:42
First of all, sorry to say that i'm using WSG for info other than sex. I came across this lady on Myspace. Actually a girl has used her photo as a disguise bcoz she herself is ugly. In the end, i got to know that the photo is not her's and belongs to a Philippino girl named Nikki Rodriguez.
From what i gathered on Myspace, Nikki used to model (and maybe still is) for Cosmopolitan Agency in Makati and maybe currently working with Y&R (i think Young & Rubicam). She hails from Pasig.
I'm planning a trip to Philippines and maybe with luck hope to stumble upon Nikki. Those who know of her or have come across or seen her may want to share their information with me.
I just wanted to meet this girl. That's all. I'm not hoping to hook up or anything. Just meeting her will do.
Boys I have got my province girl friend pregnant God damn it. She is only 3 weeks late on her period thank God. I have sent her to doctors and gynaecologists in her province of Samar to do a curet or what ever will fix this and no one there is willing to perform this procedure for love or money.
Surly some one must know a hospital or doctor in Manila or Samar I can send her to as soon as possible to fix this.
If you can offer any advise please PM me.
And please don't be a smart ass and suggest I use a condom next time lol.
I have been told of a pill called Sytotec that will induce menstruation up till 5 weeks of pregnancy. Fingers crossed.
I have been told of a pill called Sytotec that will induce menstruation up till 5 weeks of pregnancy. Fingers crossed.
I have been reading of your adventures in Samar/Leyte, I've visited those areas but never mongered, sounds like a typical provincial paradise with "princess Natibo's" at every step. Therein I gather is your problem. Just a few things:
1. I checked with two Pharmacies here in Cebu on my way home and asked about that drug, neither had heard of it despite several spellings and my description of what it is supposed to do. These are small "mom and pop" places, I didn't inquire with the larger chains such as Mercury or Rose/Watsons but my general impression is that this "pill" may be black market or under the table. Remember that ALL abortion related drugs/practises are STRICTLY outlawed in the Philippines in this devout catholic country. Unlikely a DR in her area is going to even consider such, they would lose their license, likely be imprisioned or (shudder) be excommunicated. That area as you are aware is recruiting ground for the bars in Angeles City, she may know a girl or two "in the business" with connections to get any such blackmarket pills.
2. There are many native practices and concoctions that will
induce abortion, she likely knows of a local "quack doctor" so called as they are part spiritualist, part magician,snake oil salesmen etc who do such.
I know of a chinese herb sold in the Phils called "dark of the moon" that supposedly works wonders. A muslim "Doctor" (Mangu Hula) likely has a brew to induce abortion if there are any in Leyte.
3. The big question here is NOT the means to abortion, plenty of avenue open to her if she truly wants it... but does she want to go that route? Remember her culture, religion and family go against all this. If you do find the means will she partake of them?
I'm the worlds foremost skeptic, I always suspect the worst and I'm usually right. No doubt you have pondered if she is truely preggs (and if it is yours or her BF's) or just using that as a reason to get money out of you, the more money she is asking for the more it is likely this is a scam, and the old "Im pregnant, send me money to get rid of it, help me with the child" is one of the oldest in the book.
Either way it can be a tough call, good luck.
spamhog
Guys, a girl that I met in Makati this summer told me tonight that she is pregnant from me. I am telling you this because this is the 2nd girl who I made contact with this summer who is telling me this and I heard this a new scam for the Makati area. The first one caved in right away and said ok she is not pregnant but just asked me what I would do if she were. The one tonight was more firm saying she was and is sure it is me. She said that I was her ONLY customer for the whole summer. Now i dont beleive that, but still a worry since she knows a little too much information about me for my comfort.
A few minutes ago, I talked to a girl that I know who is still working in the area, she told me that there is a scam going around the P Burgos street bars where many of the girls are either TRYING to get pregnant or pretending to be pregnant from customers who they can keep in contact with to extract money or try to force a marriage. So, if you tell them your real name or where you are from or where you work, you might end up being called Tatay in 9 months, which is not something I want reminding me of my trip to Philippines.
Lawn Gnome
11-10-06, 17:51
I have been told of a pill called Sytotec that will induce menstruation up till 5 weeks of pregnancy. Fingers crossed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cytotec
Guys, a girl that I met in Makati this summer told me tonight that she is pregnant from me. I am telling you this because this is the 2nd girl who I made contact with this summer who is telling me this and I heard this a new scam for the Makati area. The first one caved in right away and said ok she is not pregnant but just asked me what I would do if she were. The one tonight was more firm saying she was and is sure it is me. She said that I was her ONLY customer for the whole summer. Now i dont beleive that, but still a worry since she knows a little too much information about me for my comfort.
A few minutes ago, I talked to a girl that I know who is still working in the area, she told me that there is a scam going around the P Burgos street bars where many of the girls are either TRYING to get pregnant or pretending to be pregnant from customers who they can keep in contact with to extract money or try to force a marriage. So, if you tell them your real name or where you are from or where you work, you might end up being called Tatay in 9 months, which is not something I want reminding me of my trip to Philippines.
Were you wearing condoms with these girls? If yes, did it get disposed of after the deed?
I recall a story a few years ago about the NBA (for the foreigners reading this, that's the top professional basketball league in the US) orientation program for first-year players. Since these guys are in the money, they have to deal with groupies coming on to them all the time. One scam that was mentioned: the girl will take the guy's condom to the bathroom, then instead of throwing it away or flushing it down the toilet, she will squeeze the ejaculate into her vagina and try to get pregnant that way.
A little while after reading that story, I was staying in the HK Shangri-La when I caught the provider (a mainland Chinese girl, early to mid 30's) trying to do that. I kicked her out and changed my hotel in the morning. Fortunately I never gave her my real name or my contact information so that was the end of it since I never heard about it again.
So watch where that condom is going after you finish...
Spam Hog,
Many thanks for you wise comments and questions. I assure you that I am far from a green horn in the Filipina scams area. I looked up in the Yellow pages on line the names of the 2 doctors my girls said she was going to. After her appointment there I called the 2 doctors on the phone from their number in the Yellow pages and confirmed the findings my girl told me. This is a sure as you can get unless you fly there yourself.
You are so right that there are many ways to abort in the PI's as I have now found out.
Many thanks for your input and your advice.
Best regards.
Interesting techinique with squeezing the contents of a rubber into her penny box, I wonder how effective that is as far as inducing a preganacy? To my knowledge a sperm cell has little life expectancy unless in a host but a Doctor could tell us the score on that. But disposing of the things properly seems to be wise precaution.
Anyhow I just want you all to be aware that PATERNITY TESTING IS available in the Phils. Some isolated area like Leyte/Samar might farm it out to Manila but it can be had.
regarding this scam it is an OOOOOOllllllddddd one in Thailand. The yings have it down to a science, they will even show you your "child", borrowed or rented
from a sympathetic friend or someone in on the scam. I knew a ying in Phuket with a light haired half French little girl who used to make quite a good income from that very scam.
Blastoff you may have checked with doctors but they may also be in on it, remember the extended family clan, everybody shares the bounty. And in some of these areas if a foreigner is involved everybody smells money.
The only way to be sure of anything is to go there yourself and find out, tough but thats the lay of it.
Regards
Spamhog
Frequent Flier
11-11-06, 18:15
Anyhow I just want you all to be aware that PATERNITY TESTING IS available in the Phils. Some isolated area like Leyte/Samar might farm it out to Manila but it can be had.
Regards
Spamhog
I called a company in the USA. Had them send me the DNA testing kit via FEDEX. Picked up the testing package at a FEDEX office. Followed the directions on the package, just have to properly use a swab and swab the inner check inside the mouth to get tissue sample of the Baby, Mother and Yourself. Packaged up the tissue samples per instructions, took package back to FEDEX and sent back to USA and had results emailed to me within one week.
Now this is not valid in court. A doctor has to be involved to be considered a blind test I guess, but for personal accountability it worked for me. If you are trying to prove or disprove paternal relationship for legal or citizenship reasons then you cannot perform the test.
It was very easy. I just did not trust any service in the PI for the reasons mentioned by SH. There is no limit to the types or professions of people who think the taking of money from foreigners is OK. They should go ahead and pass a law stating that it isn't a crime, because the whole country thinks it is OK to rob a perceived rich foreigner.
FF
FreebieFan
11-16-06, 02:43
Generally live in Malaysia but used to live in Makati. Have a string of freebies that I often meet but during last trip there thought I would try out a new (but well used) technique.
Was strolling thru Market Market when I spotted a very cute one in a store. She looked at me and I looked at her. Enough said. She seemed to be quite busy, so went to National Bookstore, bought pen and paper. Wrote her a sweet note, with my name and phone number on it.
Sure enough one hour letter. Get sms. She would be happy to meet.
I was busy that night having a Burgos Street special. But we met the next day when she finished work. Had some drinks in Market Market area. Then drove in my car. She wasnt too keen on going to motel on first date. But she had no probs with lots of finger roaming and she managed to jerk me off nicely. And promised me heaven on my next date when I return.
Interesting twist. As soon as I got back to KL she sent me sms. Normal story. Had money probs parents house falling down. Pregnant carabou etc. Could I send. My reply. Sure. Next time were in a motel, will help your parents. But not till then. Either way it was first time I had used that technique and will be repeating it.
Good story, I can relate to it.
Chhers.
Went to Greenbelt 3 last night and had dinner at Havana Cafe. This is definitely a place to go for the latin music and to look at the tall and beautiful waitresses, not a place to go to for the food or the service, which were substandard in my opinion. Everything took forever, the wine I ordered with dinner arrived after I finished eating.
There were some very beautiful girls walking around the mall but I found it hard to approach them without knowing for sure they were working. The ones that obviously were working at Havana were not so good looking and did not appear to look at me or anything. Obviously you have to make the first move.
My move was to go to Flamingo, the first bar on P. Burgos. It was the first time and I was impressed. Within minutes I had a couple girls at my table, within an hour, I had five and was in the middle of a clothed orgy with everyone having their hands over everyone else. I took one girl out at 4AM, mamasan told me the minimum for her was 2500 P for short time, I said OK, bar fine was 1900P. Total damage with the drinks for the girls was 5100 + 1900 bar fine but absolutely worth it considering the great time I had.
Since I could not take all the girls with me last night, I setup a meeting with one of them at my hotel this afternoon before work, and will go back tonight to pickup another one. There were some really good looking girls there, some on stage looked very young, I thought they might not be great performers but they looked good. The girl I picked, Ruffa, had a nice personality and nice body though I realized after the fact she was shorter than I wanted (at the bar I was sitting and she had high heels on of course) and once in bed I discovered (and she pretended to discover too) that she had her period, which was a BAD surprise. She did not stay very long after that. We'll see how the next girl goes this afternoon... For now I am going to lunch at LA Cafe, so who knows...
By the way, does anyone have suggestions as to where to girls can be picked up in the daytime? Thanks.
After reading previous reports, I decided to start the night at Café Havana.
Situated at Greenbalt 3, it's 5-10 minutes from the major hotels of Makati.
I landed there around 11pm and the place was packed, the live band was giving its best on latino songs, the mbiance was ver friendly.
I spotted 3 very stylish ladies 8-9 at the bar close to the band. I did not attack immediately after 1 glass of my favorite JD Coke.
One of them Kathleen was regularly crossing my eyes with a little smile.
I could see couple of guys coming to the ladies and being rejected because probably too direct.
After 20 minutes, Kathleen was dancing between my arms so sensualy that I made my mind.
I had a lot of fun drinking and dancing with her friends.
Then I suggested we have a dring in my room. I was expected 2 of them could come but only Kathleen was keen.
She did not talk about money at all.
We had great fun in the room too till 4am when we decided to go to Casino.
Before going out from the room, I just gave her 2K Pesos. She just said thanks without a nice smile telling me I probably put the bar too high.
Anyway, that's was cheap, great, safe and so funny.
I recommend Cafe Havana.
Popos
Had lunch at LA Cafe where I was approached by some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen, they did eventually leave with customers, I don't know, some blind guys probably... The food was really not good either, chicken was still frozen, I ate a little and left.
Went to 5 or so bars on P. Burgos in Makati at night (Saturday). Started early as recommended and was surprised to see the clubs almost full already. Flamingo and Jools had the best selection imho. I returned to Flamingo at 8PM with the intention of barfining a girl I had seen the night before but she kept presenting me her friends and I gathered she was no longer interested, possibly because she knew I did 2 of her friends in the previous 12 hours. Flamingo has GROs (Guest Relations Officers mind you) and dancers. Both types can be barfined but GROs don't dance.
The girls at Bandidos did not look good at all and I did not stay. The girls at High Heels looked generally better but had a very agressive style with all the girls surrounding me the minute I entered and running my hands on their bodies asking me to choose them. Not a bad feeling but I became overwhelmed and continued my quest for the perfect 1-nighter. Wow offered personalized, 2 on 1 intimity, we chatted and I crossed the road to Jools. They had a (good) show on and after 5 minutes I was surrounded by about 8 girls. I picked the two I liked most and bought them a drink, we chatted and touched for a couple hours but I could not decide either and went to EDSA around 2:30AM. Damage at Bandidos, HH & Flamingo was about 150P per drink. Jools was considerably more expensive due to the fact that they kept insisting on selling very small drinks for the girls and I ended up paying above 5000P there. I was half drunk and not paying attention, my mistake.
EDSA: Started at Cotton Club, the place was almost empty by then did not like it, drinks were 120P, continued to Firehouse where the mamasan introduced a cutie, who I ended up with (after checking out Casino upstairs which was completely empty before closing at 3:45AM). Barfine was 1000P and she provided the GFE I had been longing for, and could not find in Makati. We went out for dinner at 5AM and still managed a couple sessions before she left around noon the next day, very nice girl really, I have her real name but don't remember her stage name. I gave her about 3200 P, she seemed content.
Walking out of EDSA at 4AM I did see some cuties just hanging around, it was too late to reconsider by then, anyway, I have no regrets.
BTW, walking into Robinson Plaza in the afternoon I was followed and approached by what might have been a transvetite, a tall "girl" with masculine features who absolutely insisted she would give me a massage, this was in the middle of the crowd mid-day, I had trouble getting rid of her. I kept my hands in my pockets as I was afraid this could be a pickpocketing scam. Still not sure what that was all about...
Concerning Popo's report, my impression from the way the girls were looking at the men at Cafe Havana, is that all them were pro or semi-pro, I am wondering if there are really non-pros that can be picked up there. I could be wrong, have only been there 3 times.
Thetsmplumber
11-19-06, 20:16
Correct on nearly all counts, FF. For courtroom legitimacy it's all about maintaining 'chain of custody' as the DNA samples are classified as evidence.
I went through this with a Dominican sweety. Could have done the FedEx to me, take the samples myself and send 'em back thing. I opted for the medical office test as I was planning on adopting and bringing the child to the USA if positive.
The USA based DNA testing facility I used contracts with a hospital in Santiago. We three, mother, baby and myself, took the gua gua (bus) to get the samples taken; they are immediately packed and sealed right in front of everyone.
As you state, it took one week for the results. They showed I was NOT a daddy (wheeeeewww!!! Darn broken condom anyway).
Now according to the mother, it seems some guy in Boston took the plunge repeatedly 'bare' before I got to the DR and he may be the father. Not much I can do about that. BTW, if 'the' guy from Boston reads this, the mother of your perspective child says you only pay half what's agreed upon and you don't pull out when you say you will. Ha! What a life.
Mr. P.
I called a company in the USA. Had them send me the DNA testing kit via FEDEX. Picked up the testing package at a FEDEX office. Followed the directions on the package, just have to properly use a swab and swab the inner check inside the mouth to get tissue sample of the Baby, Mother and Yourself. Packaged up the tissue samples per instructions, took package back to FEDEX and sent back to USA and had results emailed to me within one week.
Now this is not valid in court. A doctor has to be involved to be considered a blind test I guess, but for personal accountability it worked for me. If you are trying to prove or disprove paternal relationship for legal or citizenship reasons then you cannot perform the test.
It was very easy. I just did not trust any service in the PI for the reasons mentioned by SH. There is no limit to the types or professions of people who think the taking of money from foreigners is OK. They should go ahead and pass a law stating that it isn't a crime, because the whole country thinks it is OK to rob a perceived rich foreigner.
FF
[QUOTE=Mahal]Had lunch at LA Cafe where I was approached by some of the ugliest girls I have ever seen, they did eventually leave with customers, I don't know, some blind guys probably. The food was really not good either, chicken was still frozen, I ate a little and left.
I would never eat at the LA Cafe. But Amazonia up the street has good food. I understand the owner's wife is Thai.
Alabang area has come up very much with lots of people living there and many companies coming up in this area. I travel about once a year and only get to stay in this area for a few days. Can anyone tell me if there is any kind of action in this area.
Hi mahal,
Was in Manila about the same time as you it appears.
Daytime options seem limited, but I'm no expert. I usually went to Phoenix in the Makati area, but this is a massage parlor only. The girls were receptive to seeing me after the shift which was 12 to 8pm. The quality was quite good at this place and the facilities were decent and clean. Highly recommended and very convenient location.
I went to flamingo as well. At first I was impressed with the selection. I started trialing girls but found the up close appearance a bit different from how they looked on stage. I ended up buying four drinks for four different girls. Three of the girls were 18 and had some sort of dental orthodontia. Braces, retainer etc. The thought of braces shredding my dick was not a good one. These girls seemed very uninterested as well. Overall I liked the lack of pushiness of this place. People would leave you alone if you wanted, but the girls seemed pretty lacking in personality. Other clubs were much more pushy but the girls more talkative. The fourth one I picked for the body, which was very thin. She looked much better in the darkness of the club, unfortunately. Brought her back and had the worst experience I've ever had. Will not elaborate but sent her away quickly. Thought of calling the club to complain, but by then was tired and not up to going out again to find something else. This makes two bad experiences from burgos for me. Will take awhile for me to try again. Maybe I should have gone for one of the young ones with braces.
Can someone explain the purpose for buying these??
I have often wondered why men buy these drinks for the ladies? The fact that you can go to a bar, knowing they have overpriced them at 3-4x's the price, the SAME drink you are drinking but you guys still continue to buy them. Furthermore, the so-called LD's are not even alcoholic so what you are literally buying is juice/koolaid or whatever it is but it isn't alcohol!
I was in the P. Burgos area a few weeks ago and met a fairly drunk caucasion girl and her half filipina/japanese gf (think they were lesbos) and struck up a conversation. She was in town for vacation (was in the military) and just enjoying herself. Now I'm sure you guys have seen a few caucasion women here in the philippines but not many alone and so I decided to just spark up a conversation just to see what she was doing in the PI.
Our walk and interests took us to the Bronx on P. Burgos. This is more of a dance club/bar but not the typical dancers on the stage doing the "routine" type dance. Even though the girls did dance it was more of like an open dance floor with them playing hip-hop and rock music. Almost all the dancers there are beautiful and gorgeous (9-10s) but if you ask me if they can dance....well, hmmm!!!
Anyway, my new friend ordered the 1st round of drinks and the girl had obviously been there a few times as the manager or the girl who is in charge of monitoring the drink buying came over and greeted us. My new friend bought 3 SML's and 2 LD's for one of the girls that came over and sat down. Now I'm not sure what drink it was but I leaned over and asked her if she knew what she was buying? I did it bcuz I hate to see semi-drunk people being taken advantage of and she was well on her way to ordering a second round.
She said "yeah, its just a LD". I said, "taste it"! You're probably thinking its got alcohol in it?? She said, "of course!" After tasting it, she woke up like a deer in headlights and immediately got pissed off bcuz the it was nothing but fruit punch! I told her that you know that drink is probably around 350P each and she said yeah. She asked for the bill and the lady presented her with a bill of 980P!! She called over the manager and told her she wasn't paying for those drinks as she thought they were alcoholic drinks. The manager told her they were and the argument was on!
Long story shortened, she didn't pay for the drinks and the manager looked at me like I just blew the greatest secret in the world....lol! If you guys don't know, quit buying these drinks, they aren't alcohol and what the hell is the purpose for buying those drinks anyway??? I just don't understand why pay for a drink for a lady at 3-4x the rate?
Maybe some of you can explain the reasoning behind this. Just curious how many of you really buy those drinks and why? As long as I've been mongering I never had to buy or even considered buying a lady a drink and still get as much pussy or more! So it can't be to get the pussy....is it?
Road Lover
11-21-06, 16:56
I am having a third good day in Manila. As I have said earleir, I prefer using call agencies to send girls upto my room. Last time I tried Gypsy Rose and I obtained the number from yellow pages. There is only one genuine massage service provider in that entire chapter. All the rest are escort agencies. I find Gypsy ROse reliable. There is a guy by the name of Anthony who answers the phone. DOnt be bashful. Exlain your specs and he will sincerely try to help you out. If he cant he is decent and honest enough to tell you the best he can do. Usually the girls are 6 or 7 in looks and body, wth an occassional 8 or 9. Usually they all provide good service, with unlimited options, if you are nice to them.
I tried another agency called Girlfriends this time and I was little put off by the stand-offish women who answered the phone. The girl was ok. She was fresh ( Amy), but did not provide as compliant a service as the rest of Philipinas do. I think I will stick with Gypsy Rose.
As far as massages are concerned, I tried the one agency listed in the yellow pages with a term therapy. They did send a reasonably good massueess, who was professional, but even she asked if i wanted hand releif. So theres plenty cums in Manila!
LoveAsianWhores
11-21-06, 17:18
[ladies drinks]Can someone explain the purpose for buying these??
Trim-
So, you have been traveling the Philippines for at least two years, including Angeles City (judging from your previous posts), and you have not been able to figure out ladies drinks. Most people figure them out after the first bar or two, and I have never met anyone who didn't understand them after a night of bar hopping. Honestly, if you haven't figured them out by now, you probably never will. But don't feel so bad. There are many things I have not been able to figure out about the Philippines. Like why are there so many Macdonalds/jollibees/KFC/etc, most of them packed with customers, selling $2 meals when most Filipinos who are lucky enough to have a job earn less then $200 a month? Or why does the guy behind you honk when you are stopped at a red light? I am sure he knows why he is honking at me, but I have no fucking idea.
LoveAsianWhores
11-21-06, 17:46
Alabang area has come up very much with lots of people living there and many companies coming up in this area. I travel about once a year and only get to stay in this area for a few days. Can anyone tell me if there is any kind of action in this area.
Lots of great, but expensive, action along Zapote Road. Read my previous post on the subject for the details. Of the many bars on Zapote that I have been to, I would recommend Glamori, Safety Zone and Alerio. Many bars do not have barfines, so be carefull if you blindly go into bars. If you want to just go into one bar and pick a girl and get out of there, head to Safety Zone. If you want to see an unbelievable line up and spend some money, then Valerio is the place. If you want to hang out, sing some Kareoke, and then take the girl back, go to Glamori. But also keep in mind than many girls in these places prefer Asians, so charm and a little extra money helps do seal the deal.
Street Hound
11-21-06, 19:30
[Ladies Drinks]Can someone explain the purpose for buying these??
Trim-They are rental fees for the girls time. If I'm enjoying having a girl sit with me and bullshit, but have no intentions of bar fining her that night, I'm happy to buy her a drink. Keeps the manager off her back, keeps her from losing face, and gets her out of "sales" mode.
Cebu Local
11-22-06, 02:23
So, you have been traveling the Philippines for at least two years, including Angeles City (judging from your previous posts), and you have not been able to figure out ladies drinks. Most people figure them out after the first bar or two, and I have never met anyone who didn't understand them after a night of bar hopping. Honestly, if you haven't figured them out by now, you probably never will. But don't feel so bad. There are many things I have not been able to figure out about the Philippines. Like why are there so many Macdonalds/jollibees/KFC/etc, most of them packed with customers, selling $2 meals when most Filipinos who are lucky enough to have a job earn less then $200 a month? Or why does the guy behind you honk when you are stopped at a red light? I am sure he knows why he is honking at me, but I have no fucking idea.
I live and do business here and can answer the question easily,Thats because the people who fill up those places do not depend on money earned in the PI,I once read an internal SM study that shows 42% of their customers depend on OFW income and that is why they can keep on building SM malls.Folks,There are 11 million OFW Overseas Filipino Workers.You honk at a guy at a red light if he is blocking your right turn,So that he moves his car out of your way.Secondly you honk a guy at a red light if the Traffic aide hand signals you that it is ok to go ahead but the guy still waits for the light to turn green.Cheers
Daytime options seem limited, but I'm no expert. I usually went to Phoenix in the Makati area, but this is a massage parlor only. The girls were receptive to seeing me after the shift which was 12 to 8pm. The quality was quite good at this place and the facilities were decent and clean. Highly recommended and very convenient location.
For MP action at all hours in Makati, you can try Palacio Don Pedro. Easy walking distance from P.Burgos St. Search this thread for reports, prices and directions.
FreebieFan
11-22-06, 11:18
Again, Im not sure I understand the orginal question.. but basically all bars with girls sell drinks to guys at a normal price and ladies drinks at jacked up price. Theres a few obvious..consequences.
1. You get to sit with the lady. No drink and generally no sit./ Your allowed about 5 minutes of bullshit ( bola bola) before lady will walk off or waitress will hover. I always make sure that I want to sit with the lady and never give in to pressure if I dont liek the ladies ( Ayoko.. I dont like)
2. For the ladies drink you should do your utmost to get the max out of her. For instance I always get her tits out, do my best to feel her pussy etc.
3. If shes a really cutie I will try and get cellphone number for later cheaper score.
Thats why you buy. If you dont want to talk to girls in these bars then dont buy them ladies drinks.
Finally in places like Bubbles and others.. for 2 ladies drinks in the afternoon. You can get a blow. Fair exchange.
After the first ladies drink I always ask them if they want the money or the drink.
They always opt for the money, duh.
Questions for you experienced mongers,
1. Is it true the AC girls sign a contract with the club where they are working?
2. Does the contract say if the girl goes with a foreigner and quits the job before the contract term is up, she has to pay 12,000 pesos to the club?
3. Is it true the girl cannot leave the club before the contract term is up?
4. Is it true if the girl leaves the club they hunt her down?
5. Is it true the club hires mafia types to roughen the girl if she lies to her whereabouts?
The girl I met mentioned this. I just want to make sure she is not lying to me. Help!
Questions for you experienced mongers,
1. Is it true the AC girls sign a contract with the club where they are working?
2. Does the contract say if the girl goes with a foreigner and quits the job before the contract term is up, she has to pay 12,000 pesos to the club?
3. Is it true the girl cannot leave the club before the contract term is up?
4. Is it true if the girl leaves the club they hunt her down?
5. Is it true the club hires mafia types to roughen the girl if she lies to her whereabouts?
The girl I met mentioned this. I just want to make sure she is not lying to me. Help!
Let me just say that there is an element of truth in what she says but much of it is not accurate or not policed by the bar that strictly.
Yes the girl will get a fine if she sees you privately without you paying her bar fine.
Yes, if the girl wants to leave the bar with a man permanently, the man is asked to pay a “steady bar fine” which could exceed 20,000 pesos but then she is yours for ever so to speak. Even if she returns to the bar when you are away, every time you arrive in town, she is yours if you want her and you pay no additional bar fine for the rest of her life (while she works in that particular bar). Basically you are buying a permanent girl friend.
The girls appear more frightened of what the Mammasans will say if they mess up rather than a guy beating them up as a threat. In the PI's they have a way of emotionally controlling the girls. A bit like what is referred to in other places of the world as "Catholic Guilt." The girls do NOT want to step out of line with the Mammasan or their own Families and will go to great lengths not to cross them.
But on the other hand, many of us mongers have met bar girls secretly many times before and after work and got away with it no probs. In AC as you mentioned, I have several friends who own bars and others who are Mammasans and Pappasans, the all tell me that the bars have a alliance that if a foreigner is caught sneaking around with a girl and not paying the bar fine, he can and some times has been banned from that bar and others once the word is out that he is a cheap Charlie. The owner of Foxy Bar (Dave) can tell you of several instances that surprised me to hear, where one customer was well known for sneaking out with the girls and not paying the bar fine and his photo was taken and distributed to other bars and he is banned from entering many of the bars now. I would hate that to happen to me.
Also if the girl wants to leave the bar work due to Family problems, she usually can so the contract idea is not rock solid at all.
Hope this helps.
Happy mongering.
Bill Buxton
11-23-06, 01:00
What the fuck do the bar owners think that gals with cell phones never get a sneek out?? The best thing any gal can do is get the number of a guy.Get the whole amount and much more.At ten am until three or 4 pm my cell is jumping.All the gals wake up and start txt the guys that gave the numbers out.They all go behind the back of the bar.What do the think the gals are stupid???
Why would any gal want to give the bar money when she is the one doing the work??? The greed is in the bar owners and the gals give half the bf to the bar and some bars get more than half,where is the logic there.This is not rocket science guys!!!! They want to blame the guys for the sneek out but any gal will give out her number to any guy if she thinks it will give her a boost.Would you want 500-p or 1000-p if you keep the whole amount?? Me I would rather have the 1000-p anyday.pEOPLE SAY THE BROWN SKINN IS THE PROBLEM HERE.nOT SO,THE GREED IS IN THE WHITE SKIN BAR OWNERS PUSHING THE GALS FOR THE SMALL PESO.
Dancing for 130-150-p per shift what a joke.What will this buy a fish head and some rice???What gal can survive on this kind of pay ha?? Sneek out's they all do it and the only way they get caught is when a fellow bar gal see's them with you.The crab mentality kicks in and they all want to get the money the girl is getting thats with you.Thats why the gals are shy to be seen with us in the daytime.The sneek out will never change unless the cell phone is baned everywhere and we all know that is never gonna happen!!
B.B...
Bill Buxton
11-23-06, 01:10
When the day comes that the bars start giving my drink of choice (ice tea) away for free and other things I will stop getting numbers.What do you guys think the big fields ave bars are leget?? These bars are washing machines for off shore money!!! They are washing dollars thats the deal.How could you support all the staff,electric,and the property on what the customer pays in drinks and bf's.This could never happen use your heads.
When you take this into account who worries about what the bar wants.My job is first to have a good time, and worry about my gal of choice for the nite.Then worry about the bar somewhere down the line if ever.
Thats why the vast majority of people get sneek outs and never worry about what the bar is thinking.Ask any bar owner what the bigest uncontrolable problem is and they will all say (THE GIRLS GOING OUT BEHIND OUR BACKS)
B.B...
Bill Buxton
11-23-06, 02:06
Why would anyone pay a steady bf??After you pay 20-30 thousand and the girl gets only half the game begins.After 2-3-5 days the girl spends her half and then goes back to the bar and tells the boss she does not like you for whatever reason.You go to the bar and and the boss there tells you he can't make the girl go if she is not happy with you.
What now?? you then ask the bar to refund your money and they will be happy to do so.You will get half of what you gave in the first place.The bar share only.This is because the half the girl got is gone long GONE!!!!. They can not get this share back for you you roll the dice and the girl wins.
Why not barfine the gal 2-3-4 nites and then offer her to stay with you with no steady bf? Tell her you will not take all the risk alone and she must go 50% with you.Most will do this hands down,never a problem.Risk vs.reward,Why take all the risk when you do not have to .
B.B...
Thanks for the info. Just making sure the girl is not lying. I am not the one to pay steady barfine.
Thanks for the info. Just making sure the girl is not lying. I am not the one to pay steady barfine.
Steady bar fines are as normal in the PI's as bacon and eggs is for breakfast. Usually they are paid if you have VERY strong feelings and good intentions for the girl. Otherwise do as BB suggests and just pay 3 or 4 nights bar fine and that's it.
I am sure you will work out the game fast enough.
Cheers
Road Lover
11-23-06, 17:13
Sadly I left Manila in all your safe hands and more :) But I tooka hour's massage at the massage parlour at the airport. Cost p1000. But it was damned good. It lasted me the whole trip back homeand I am still for the par. Definitely recommended.No hanky pnky thought here. All above board. SOrt of crowded.
RL,
What is the rate and how long/times do they stay with you?
I am having a third good day in Manila. As I have said earleir, I prefer using call agencies to send girls upto my room. Last time I tried Gypsy Rose and I obtained the number from yellow pages. There is only one genuine massage service provider in that entire chapter. All the rest are escort agencies. I find Gypsy ROse reliable. There is a guy by the name of Anthony who answers the phone. DOnt be bashful. Exlain your specs and he will sincerely try to help you out. If he cant he is decent and honest enough to tell you the best he can do. Usually the girls are 6 or 7 in looks and body, wth an occassional 8 or 9. Usually they all provide good service, with unlimited options, if you are nice to them.
I tried another agency called Girlfriends this time and I was little put off by the stand-offish women who answered the phone. The girl was ok. She was fresh ( Amy), but did not provide as compliant a service as the rest of Philipinas do. I think I will stick with Gypsy Rose.
As far as massages are concerned, I tried the one agency listed in the yellow pages with a term therapy. They did send a reasonably good massueess, who was professional, but even she asked if i wanted hand releif. So theres plenty cums in Manila!
Cebu Local
11-23-06, 23:41
Sadly I left Manila in all your safe hands and more :) But I tooka hour's massage at the massage parlour at the airport. Cost p1000. But it was damned good. It lasted me the whole trip back homeand I am still for the par. Definitely recommended.No hanky pnky thought here. All above board. SOrt of crowded.
The Massage Parlor of Air Force 1 is another option,a 5-10 minute drive away from the Airport.It is always an option to kill a few hours
FreebieFan
11-30-06, 05:48
Hi to Cebu Local.. this is R oh ve rs mahn. Was being stalked by a mad woman ( pissed that I wrote about our encounter on the forum) ..hence the new name.
Anyways, aside from Airforce One theres also the massage place opposite entrance to domestic airport. Forget its name but its where all the now closed bars used to be.
Used it twice on last trip to Makati.. it opens at 11.30 and selection is so/so but fills a need. Rooms are crap and shower was falling to bits but like I said. It worked to get the kinks out the system and the standard happy ending.
As its only a 15 min drive from my Global City condo I can see me using it more on future Manila trips.
Visited Flamingo at 11 PM.
Some 30+ girls including dancers and some gals sitting near the bar.
I choosed one of them - for the smile and shy look.
Barfine was 2200 and she was so so in action but GFE- real shy maybe.
Gave here 1000 and asked her to leave at 1:30 AM.
Last night at the Flamingo.
So so girls, most of them 5-7
Choosed one of the dressed girls near the bar "leah"
barfined her 2200 and off to my hotel
Real gfe but no sex skills.
After one session I asked her to leave and gave her 1000.
She refused and asked to stay overnight for 1000 more.
I agreed and we went into second session.
BBBJ and cow ride then doggie and off to sleep.
Waked her up in the morning and she left - for good
Cebu Local
12-08-06, 15:54
Hi to Cebu Local.. this is R oh ve rs mahn. Was being stalked by a mad woman ( pissed that I wrote about our encounter on the forum) ..hence the new name.
Anyways, aside from Airforce One theres also the massage place opposite entrance to domestic airport. Forget its name but its where all the now closed bars used to be.
Used it twice on last trip to Makati.. it opens at 11.30 and selection is so/so but fills a need. Rooms are crap and shower was falling to bits but like I said. It worked to get the kinks out the system and the standard happy ending.
As its only a 15 min drive from my Global City condo I can see me using it more on future Manila trips.Yes It was an attempt to duplicate the Edsa complex that failed.Glad to know you are still around.It is cheaper then Airforce 1 But IMHO the AirForce 1 girls are a lot prettier.But you are correct that it is half the price of AF 1.
Is AF1 open on Sunday?
Yes It was an attempt to duplicate the Edsa complex that failed.Glad to know you are still around.It is cheaper then Airforce 1 But IMHO the AirForce 1 girls are a lot prettier.But you are correct that it is half the price of AF 1.
Cebu Local
12-09-06, 00:25
Is AF1 open on Sunday?Yes It is open on Sundays Hours are from 12 noon till 5AM
How can they be GFE with no sex skills? How come you double space everything?
Last night at the Flamingo.
So so girls, most of them 5-7
Choosed one of the dressed girls near the bar "leah"
barfined her 2200 and off to my hotel
Real gfe but no sex skills.
After one session I asked her to leave and gave her 1000.
She refused and asked to stay overnight for 1000 more.
I agreed and we went into second session.
BBBJ and cow ride then doggie and off to sleep.
Waked her up in the morning and she left - for good
Arrived from singapore (see report (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=536196&postcount=2029)) on phil airlines.
First time in philippines, decided to start in makati and try other locales later. City garden hotel is a few steps from p burgos bars,but the hotel plumbing needs work. Loaded up on snack food and drinks at convenience store. Great 120 peso haircut up past Jools bar.
Brought 4 kinds of money: credit card (no problem), US cash (best rate was in landmark dept store grnd flr), amex trav cheques (difficult to cash at std rate, would try amex office), and prepaid debit card from visa (ok for buying things, did not work in any ATM, will try HSBC next).
Sampled 4 girls before heading out for provinces. Luckily super typhoon durien missed manila!
Used and found it still accurate. Here are some things that may be useful to another newbie:
1) overnight is only until 5am if your girl does not have a maid/babysitter.
2) some girls can be quite inexperienced about sex. 2 of the girls i took back to my hotel knew a lot about arousing a man, but the third had no real skills. She was cute and charming and responded in all the normal ways, but i did all the work.
3) lady drinks can add up! In a dark and noisy bar it is hard to keep track of the bills, even when you sign for every one and they are kept in a cup at your bar seat. If you buy a few rounds for 3 girls who are kissing, massaging and feeling you up, you can spend more on your bar tab than a girl for the night.
4) 3 out of 4 girls offered bareback FS. The burgos bar girls claimed doctor's tests every 2 weeks, but i wonder.
BOTH ENDS OF THE SCALE IN ONE DAY
on the second day i spent the afternoon at rogues. Only customer for a long time. Beat a number of pretty, tiny girls at pool. Then lost to this ordinary looking girl who needed orthodontic work. We were playing for 4 lady drinks to make it interesting, so i let her pick which 3 to honor. Noticed she didn't include the little hottie who kept baring her breast to distract me.
All the girls came up to thank me and delivered a kiss and suggested a visit to the VIP booth for a BJ.
Since the girl daisy who beat me had a real personality i chose her. There was a lot of giggling and testing me in different booths before settling on the big booth in the back. Daisy comes in the booth with a wet cloth to clean me with, accompanied by giggling friends who peak in. I ask what all the excitement is. She says this is her first time in the VIP booth and they are teasing. But she knows what to do. Without rushing, she snuggles up, then strips to panties and pulls me out.
Very good blowjob, open to direction too. When i didn't come, she pulled off her panties and jumped aboard. A fun experience. Afterwards, she said she will have to pay for dinner for a couple of her close friends to celebrate her first visit to the VIP.
Later, about 8pm I visited flamingos. As soon as I sat down a couple ofcuties started working on me. One very tiny girl specialized in jumping in my lap and rubbing on my leg or cock. Another with largish breasts pressed them into my arms and kissed my ears. I bought a couple of lady drinks and a third girl showed up, sitting discretely across the small table from me. More quiet,no grabbing my cock, more to my liking. So i shifted her over to the bench next to me and shifted the tiny one over, telling her she too small for me. After talking to my polite new friend heidi, a fourth girl slips into heidi's new seat. now i am torn, as liza is just gorgeous and also acts like a grownup, but in a sexy black cocktail dress.
After some more time enjoying my 3 friends, i call the mamasan over and say i would like to take a girl. She explains in my ear that the bar fine is 2250 pesos, but i get a discount because i bought lady drinks. Do i want all 3? No, just liza, the last one.
Turns out she is very small and slim,a new experience for me, and very good at her job.
So in one day i had the most homely girl in rogues and a true stunner from flamingos.
-zing
ps this report is 1 week old due to typhoon difficulities. also posted [url=http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=540094&postcount=2126]ermita experiences (]isg bar guide [/url) in manila section, left yesterday.
Bill Buxton
12-14-06, 00:59
Gentlemen I want you all too know that I have had many wonderful conversations and on board help from our frend here CEBU LOCAL.He is for real and his knowlage here in the P.I. is upfront and vast in many areas.Please do not hesitate to use him for info when needed.
He will tell you straight up and honest.Another up front and honest guy here is SPAM HOG he is a great wealth of info here also.I have had the pleasure of talking and dining with these guys and they will give you the deal straight up.
Again to each his owne but they can and will tell things like they are in the P.I.
thanks again, C.L.
PLAY SAFE,STAY SHARP.
B.B...
Bill Buxton
12-18-06, 04:39
The N.B.I. Was out and about last friday night closing down the popular P,Burgos st. bar Rouges.AT 10-pm the NBI was standing outside escorting customers and rounding up all the gals at the bar.WHY?? I have no idea but I sat outside the flamingo and watched the scene unfold in front of me.At 7-pm I was in Roughs and they were packed with a wine and cheese party.They were getting RAIDED 3 HRS LATER.tHEY TOOK 3 JEEPS OF GAL TO THE POLICE STATION AND LET ALL THE CUSTOMERS GO WHY WHO THE FUCK KNOWS THIS IS THE p.i.right.
Saturday night it was still closed and there was little pedestrian foot traffic on the street.Iwould like to say I feel there are less foreigners here now than the same time last year.Why I have no idea.
B.B...
LoveAsianWhores
12-19-06, 07:08
The N.B.I. Was out and about last friday night closing down the popular P,Burgos st. bar Rouges.AT 10-pm the NBI was standing outside escorting customers and rounding up all the gals at the bar.WHY?? I have no idea but I sat outside the flamingo and watched the scene unfold in front of me.At 7-pm I was in Roughs and they were packed with a wine and cheese party.They were getting RAIDED 3 HRS LATER.tHEY TOOK 3 JEEPS OF GAL TO THE POLICE STATION AND LET ALL THE CUSTOMERS GO WHY WHO THE FUCK KNOWS THIS IS THE p.i.right.
Saturday night it was still closed and there was little pedestrian foot traffic on the street.Iwould like to say I feel there are less foreigners here now than the same time last year.Why I have no idea.
B.B...
Spoke to the manager of Rogues last night. He said it was just a smoking violation (no smoking in all Makati bars). He said nobody was taken to the police station. A standard routine for bribes this time of year. They are back open. Also, it was just Makati PD. NBI (the equivalent of Philippines FBI) would never get involved in something like a smoking violation. Of course, the manager could be lying to me, but I have known him for over a year. Are you sure they were NBI?
Bill Buxton
12-19-06, 08:39
Spoke to the manager of Rogues last night. He said it was just a smoking violation (no smoking in all Makati bars). He said nobody was taken to the police station. A standard routine for bribes this time of year. They are back open. Also, it was just Makati PD. NBI (the equivalent of Philippines FBI) would never get involved in something like a smoking violation. Of course, the manager could be lying to me, but I have known him for over a year. Are you sure they were NBI?
Yes go ask the door man at flamingo if you have a question about my report.Yes it was the NBI those were the letters on the back of the shirts in yellow print.Ask the people at pizza hut downstairs.I am not being rude here but the answer is yes.
And the 3 jeeps I saw taking the gals away was also true mabey they were going to a party for the NBI guys.Do you really think they would be closed for 2 days over smoking? THINK AGAIN.And do you think if the reason is other than a smoking deal your frend will tell you straight up.ME,I DON'T THINK SO.
Thats the beauty of this place take 100 people and tell them to look at something and 25 say its red another 30 say blue and the rest say where did it go.And the best thing is 10,000 will say you never had it to start with.But those people were never there at all.It also could be it was a party with an extra 30-40 girls working.I am sure someone did not get his bag of cash for the holiday as expected.
I am not starting shit but why would I report anything but the facts.
B.B...
LoveAsianWhores
12-19-06, 10:23
yes go ask the door man at flamingo if you have a question about my report.yes it was the nbi those were the letters on the back of the shirts in yellow print.ask the people at pizza hut downstairs.i am not being rude here but the answer is yes.
and the 3 jeeps i saw taking the gals away was also true mabey they were going to a party for the nbi guys.do you really think they would be closed for 2 days over smoking? think again.and do you think if the reason is other than a smoking deal your frend will tell you straight up.me,i don't think so.
thats the beauty of this place take 100 people and tell them to look at something and 25 say its red another 30 say blue and the rest say where did it go.and the best thing is 10,000 will say you never had it to start with.but those people were never there at all.it also could be it was a party with an extra 30-40 girls working.i am sure someone did not get his bag of cash for the holiday as expected.
i am not starting shit but why would i report anything but the facts.
b.b...
the manager was likely told by the owner to use the smoking story as a cover. i guess he thought it would be bad for business if customers knew the real reason. if it was nbi, then it most likely was an **** or unlicensed bargirl issue. a lot of customers would be hesitent to barfine a girl from a bar if they thought the girl could be under 18, or that the girl did not have a license and therefore had not had her medical test.
i don't appreciate being lied to. the manager should have told me that he could not comment, rather then making up a bullshit story. i would love to go up to him and say "how come nbi was taking away the girls because a customer was smoking". but considering that he often buys me a beer and i go into rogues a lot, it's probably a bad idea to call the manager a liar.
Bill Buxton
12-20-06, 01:49
the manager was likely told by the owner to use the smoking story as a cover. i guess he thought it would be bad for business if customers knew the real reason. if it was nbi, then it most likely was an **** or unlicensed bargirl issue. a lot of customers would be hesitent to barfine a girl from a bar if they thought the girl could be under 18, or that the girl did not have a license and therefore had not had her medical test.
i don't appreciate being lied to. the manager should have told me that he could not comment, rather then making up a bullshit story. i would love to go up to him and say "how come nbi was taking away the girls because a customer was smoking". but considering that he often buys me a beer and i go into rogues a lot, it's probably a bad idea to call the manager a liar.
i am not a 2 week guy here but free beer will not get you far in my book.frendship is not based on getting a free beer and a sack full of lies.i would rather buy my own beer than get put in a jackpot by some asshole manager making 20 dollors a night anywhere on the planet.i also would have more respect for the management for telling me a more reasonable story than what they told you.smoke and mirrors will not get you far in any place.yes you are right the reason is hands down bigger than smoking.and yes there is no smoking in the bars in makati but everyone does it.i was there at 7pm and the place was packed at 700-p per head for wine and cheese party.i would not go in due to the fact you could not move inside.the gal inside said the party was over at 10-pm and thats why i was there at that time again.
the door man at flamingo gave me the heads up to look across the street and see the nbi working there magic.all the foreign customers were let walk and the gals were loaded in the jeeps.ask the regular long time gals next time you are there they will tell you what the deal was.
play safe;stay sharp
b.b...
Bill Buxton
12-20-06, 04:29
I just talked to a gal from rogues on the phone.She worked there for 2 years and she said the reason they were shut down was the mummasan "EILEEN" set up a gal with a "filipino guy" for a vip experence and he was connected to the NBI.How fucking shupid was she or how smart was she who knows.Could be she had a cut of the SET UP PIE.
First of all a vip room in a bar is not allowed in Makati bars and this gal cost the owner 500 thousand -p.YES 500-THOUSAND-P The owner wanted the NBI to taKe what his offer was 300 thousand-p but they held out for the BIG CASH.FOR ALL YOU AT HOME THATS $10,000 U.S.DOLLARS.
I love it! these stupid fucks tell you how much the bar makes and they will never recover this loss in the next year if they barfined every gal they have every nite!
Thats it, the payoffs, and ripoffs,and the things nobody saw.WAIT I THINK THAT WAS WORDS IN A SONG BY GLENN FRY,SMUGGLERS BLUES.
Thats how it works do what you want just be ready to pay out.
The gals did go by jeep but only to the NBI office 50 plus gals.Yes thats the real deal.
I am sure the owner will not want that payoff published.
SERVING YOU BETTER;
B.B...
Will be in Makati on the 2/7. Anyone recommend a good place that is near bars and clubs with no hassle to bring girls back.
Thanks all
I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.
1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.
2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )
3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?
4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?
Thanks for your help,
ENDER
Weekender 123
01-03-07, 04:06
Ender - I can't answer any of your questions, but thought I would share some points from a conversation I had with someone who ran call centres in both India and the Philippines.
Overall he loved the Philippines due to:
1) Percentage of people who spoke English.
2) He found the English spoken in the Philippines better than the English spoken in India.
3) He found Filipino's more empathetic with customer concerns. Interesting point, he said he would have to train people in India 1-2 weeks solely on soft skills required to deal with customers. These skills were more natural to the people in the Philippines.
4) Cost - I don't know the difference between India and the Philippines, but obviously there is a big difference vs. the US.
Anyhow I am definately no expert in this area, I just found these some interesting points he brought up.
Captain America
01-03-07, 17:28
Ender,
I have a friend in Cebu that runs a call center there. Since he is not a member of this board., pm me your info and I can put you in touch with him.
DC4,
I found the oxford suites very nice, but I've also read some reports that rate it much lower, leading me to think there are remodeled rooms and old rooms. It is in the center of all the action.
CA
The Governor
01-05-07, 05:02
Does the barfine include the girl's fee or you still have to pay the girl?
Cheers,
1.) Most of the call centers in Metro Manila are trending toward Ortigas now. Makati is the most expensive place to live and have office space, but nicest also. Clark, Cebu, Davao and even CDO are substantially cheaper alternatives. Makati office space typically runs around P500 per square meter and is the most expensive in the country.
2.) It's probably a fairly small percentage of the population that speaks good enough English for call center work, but when you consider that percentage is out of of 90 million people, it leaves a healthy sized pool from which to draw.
3.) Form an Export Corporation.
4.) One bedroom in Makati runs between P15,000 to P40,000 depending on location and building amenities, etc.
I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.
1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.
2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )
3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?
4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?
Thanks for your help,
ENDER
Pussy Engineer
01-07-07, 11:26
I currently have a call center for my company in India but I am dissapointed in the quality of the staff. A friend of mine suggested the Philippines due to the similar low cost of labor and the English speaking population. Questions for any Expats or people familiar with.
1) Where is the best location to open the office (small office 8-10 people max) rental rates.? Reliable Internet needed .. anyone know what a 300-400sqft office would go for.? I would assume that Makati would be the location of choice... but others have suggested that I open something in Cebu or one of the smaller cities, cheaper employment rate and office rental... what are your thoughts.
2) What percentage of the population speaks good English. Good enough to respond to e-mail support.? What is the going rate for such a person (salary .. per hour.? )
3) What are the legal aspects of starting a company in the Philippines?
4) What does an 1br apartment in Makati run per month?
Thanks for your help,
EnderI can't answer all your questions, but what I can tell you is that instead of setting up a company, there are plenty of pre-fab existing companies that you can outsource to - many of which that will even let you hire your own HR and they provide everything (office, seats, internet connected computers), all near ortigas, for a per seat per month fee.
Member #2718
01-13-07, 03:04
Does the barfine include the girl's fee or you still have to pay the girl?
Cheers,
The barfine usually just springs the girl from the club. Her fee is a seperate negotiation. Some of the more expensive places catering to expats have the mamasan bundal the expense into one, but you should work that out before you do the take out.
The barfine usually just springs the girl from the club. Her fee is a seperate negotiation. Some of the more expensive places catering to expats have the mamasan bundal the expense into one, but you should work that out before you do the take out.
My experience in barfines in Metro Manila (MM) has been consistent . I had barfined a few women in MM and I have not given anything extra. They explained to me that they get between 30-40% of the amount I have given to the establishment. I know this because my dates normally asked me the amount I have to fork out to get them out of the club
Again, I’m only used to barfining women in Metro Manila. I don’t know the barfine arrangement outside of MM.
BS
So I've read the Manila, Makati and AC threads back to back and was wondering if any of you seniors care to comment (will post in all 3 threads):
OK, I'm game! Am planning my first trip to the PI over an extended weekend, just to party and for general R&R. I don't live very far away :)
Here's my plan: 4D3N arriving in AC as the travel plan allows arriving at Clark only. Head straight to greater Manila, spending the first night in Makati - check out the malls during the day, check out P. Burgos in the evening. 2nd day: head to Malate and spend 2nd night there - check out LA Cafe in the evening. On the 3rd day head to AC and spend the night there - check out Fields Ave. Depart from Clark the following day.
Can anyone update me on the following fair 'market' rates as I understand them:
P. Burgos = BF PHP 2000-3000 (may be offset by LDs), add 2000-3000 to the girl for LT
LA Cafe = No BF, PHP 500 - 1000 for LT
AC Fields Ave. = BF PHP 1000, 0 - 500 'performance based' tip for LT
I'm less inclined towards KTVs and Saunas, usually preferring the bar/disco scene for semi-pros or FLs. Ideally I'd like to score an 8-or-9-who-occasionally-works, just based on good past experiences elsewhere but this of course is not set in stone. That being said, I wouldnt mind checking out 'regular' clubs like V or Embassy in Makati - whats the scene like there these days? FYI: I'm in my early 30s and believe I would best identify with LoveAsian*****s (think we party the same way), a regular contributor to this thread.
Your comments are welcome!
i will be in makati for a couple weeks and will have mornings and early afternoons free on week days. i can't bring girls to my room as i know about the pinay grapevine. are there any good incalls within an easy walk of greenbelt? the cheaper the better.
i will be in makati for a couple weeks and will have mornings and early afternoons free on week days. i can't bring girls to my room as i know about the pinay grapevine. are there any good incalls within an easy walk of greenbelt? the cheaper the better.
dunno about greenbelt area, but if you take a taxi up to burgos st (should not cost you more than 40-60pp), you can easily walk to the palacio don pedro from there. this is an mp that is open around the clock with variable pricing depending on time of day you are there. cheapest is before noon, i think. search this thread for more reports, including specific directions.
Weekender 123
01-18-07, 04:57
JBoy,
You could also visit Phoenix Gentlemen's Club (sometimes called phoenix1). It is in walking distance from Greenbelt. Here is an excerpt from a report I wrote. I believe it is still there. If not, someone let me know as I am currently planning another trip to the Philippines.
DAY 2 – MONDAY - MANILA
Phoenix Gentlemen’s Club
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Rested up it was now time to get to business, mongering. Given that it was my first full day I had some pent up demand and felt I should get a quick load off, I felt Phoenix would be a good choice. It is located on Antonio Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) across the street from the New World Renaissance and in the Roman Suites Hotel. As has been previously reported there are no signs on the building for either Phoenix or for the Roman Suites. The best way to find it is to find the JVC and iBank signs, there are 2 buildings between these signs. Phoenix is in the building on the right if you are facing the buildings.
When I walk up to the reception desk I immediately see a sign, it says something like “massage is our business, we don’t offer sexual services”. I am thinking oh shit, the guide has never let me down, how could it be so wrong about something so fundamental. I hide this disappointment and opt to go through with it anyhow. The Papasan shows me the fishtank, there are only 4 in there and all are average quality. Not wanting to be too fussy I just went with the Papasan’s suggestion (I just wanted to get a quick load out afterall). I pay the room charge of 1200 peso’s and head off to the room. I am joined shortly by my selection. A quick solo shower and we get down to the massage. It is the typical weak massage you get in this type of establishment. The massage works around my body and then moves to my privates, at this point I realize that sign in the reception area is just a formality and the guide was correct afterall. At this point she offers the “extras”. I ask how much and she says 2000 pesos, we settle on 1700 and get down to business. Out comes a condom for a CBJ which was a little bit of a disappointment, but I don’t argue. Nothing too incredible happened during this session, but I got my first load off. Mission accomplished.
Fast Eddie 48
01-18-07, 10:26
JBoy,
You could also visit Phoenix Gentlemen's Club (sometimes called phoenix1). It is in walking distance from Greenbelt. Here is an excerpt from a report I wrote. I believe it is still there. If not, someone let me know as I am currently planning another trip to the Philippines.
DAY 2 – MONDAY - MANILA
Phoenix Gentlemen’s Club
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Rested up it was now time to get to business, mongering. Given that it was my first full day I had some pent up demand and felt I should get a quick load off, I felt Phoenix would be a good choice. It is located on Antonio Arnaiz Ave (Pasay Road) across the street from the New World Renaissance and in the Roman Suites Hotel. As has been previously reported there are no signs on the building for either Phoenix or for the Roman Suites. The best way to find it is to find the JVC and iBank signs, there are 2 buildings between these signs. Phoenix is in the building on the right if you are facing the buildings.
When I walk up to the reception desk I immediately see a sign, it says something like “massage is our business, we don’t offer sexual services”. I am thinking oh shit, the guide has never let me down, how could it be so wrong about something so fundamental. I hide this disappointment and opt to go through with it anyhow. The Papasan shows me the fishtank, there are only 4 in there and all are average quality. Not wanting to be too fussy I just went with the Papasan’s suggestion (I just wanted to get a quick load out afterall). I pay the room charge of 1200 peso’s and head off to the room. I am joined shortly by my selection. A quick solo shower and we get down to the massage. It is the typical weak massage you get in this type of establishment. The massage works around my body and then moves to my privates, at this point I realize that sign in the reception area is just a formality and the guide was correct afterall. At this point she offers the “extras”. I ask how much and she says 2000 pesos, we settle on 1700 and get down to business. Out comes a condom for a CBJ which was a little bit of a disappointment, but I don’t argue. Nothing too incredible happened during this session, but I got my first load off. Mission accomplished.
j boy
Just add to weekender post very good direction to this place , I was there last week about 7pm charge for room is 1400 peso there are over 12 girls and
most are 7 pick channel no 4 she is hot with a great body but the massage is weak she ask for FS before the massage want 2000 peso but settle for 1000
is a good vaule I do recommended this place also when to mecury at bivd grand hotel girl there is no as good as phoenix one .
fast eddie 48
Hobby Knob
01-20-07, 08:20
Got a good deal on the peninsula. Looks like a first class place. Is it girl friendly?
How does it compare to shangra-la edsa where I stayed last time. How far is it from there as well.
And while I'm at it, how far from L.A. cafe or Burgos Street?
Shangra-la was cool 'coz I could walk across the street to SM mall.
Weekender 123
01-20-07, 19:14
Hobby,
The Peninsula is a first class place, I stayed there on my last trip. The service is great and has a nice lobby. I was there before the recent renovations on one of the buildings and the rooms were basically average. That being said, a number of rooms have now been recently renovated so they should be better.
There is a little note in their in room pamphlet that says you can't bring guests in after 11pm, however I don't believe this is enforced at all and I never had a problem bringing girls back.
You would be an 10-15 min walk from Burgos, or a couple minute cab ride. You can also walk across the street to Greenbelt / Glorietta.
I am in the process of booking a trip to Makati and intend to stay at the Peninsula. If you don't mind me asking where did you get the deal for the Peninsula and how much?
Got a good deal on the peninsula. Looks like a first class place. Is it girl friendly?
How does it compare to shangra-la edsa where I stayed last time. How far is it from there as well.
And while I'm at it, how far from L.A. cafe or Burgos Street?
Shangra-la was cool 'coz I could walk across the street to SM mall.
The Penn is practically across the street from the Makati Shangri-la but about 15-30 minutes away from the Edsa Shangri-la--depending on traffic.
Hobby Knob
01-21-07, 06:42
Hobby,
The Peninsula is a first class place, I stayed there on my last trip. The service is great and has a nice lobby. I was there before the recent renovations on one of the buildings and the rooms were basically average. That being said, a number of rooms have now been recently renovated so they should be better.
There is a little note in their in room pamphlet that says you can't bring guests in after 11pm, however I don't believe this is enforced at all and I never had a problem bringing girls back.
You would be an 10-15 min walk from Burgos, or a couple minute cab ride. You can also walk across the street to Greenbelt / Glorietta.
I am in the process of booking a trip to Makati and intend to stay at the Peninsula. If you don't mind me asking where did you get the deal for the Peninsula and how much?Asiahotels.com has it for $107 a night.
When you gonna be there?
Dear all:
I'll be coming to Manila for a business trip next week and will be staying at the Mandarin Oriental. I'm completely new to Manila and have been doing most of my mongering in mainland China. So I would need some help and advice:
(a) It seems like most people are talking about activities in the bars. Would that be the best place to pick up a girl?
(b) What's the chance of picking up a non-pro or freebie girls from a bar?
(c) I think someone has asked this question earlier but I haven't seen an answer. Does the barfine just get the girl out of the bar? Or would it be inclusive of the time and service by the girl when she follows you back to the hotel?
(d) Are there any kind of places that are similar to the brothel or bath-houses in Bangkok? Any near the Mandarin Oriental?
(e) How's the overall hygene and health condition of the establishment and the girls in Manila? Would the girls insist on using condom? Or would they give in easily when the customers asked for bareback?
Thanks!
Sniffer
I stay at the Mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. I can tell you a lot about there and the area.
I know others may tell you to RTFF but I'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. Barfines just get the girl out. Usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because I've never barfined a girl.
For GFE, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. Girls at the bars on Burgos will give you a GFE and actually want to be your GF. Even ones at places like PDP or P1 will want to be your GF if you treat them right.
I prefer that route--I've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. Again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.
I have only walked through LA Cafe once and I was not impressed at the quality. Again, I was only there for about 10 minutes but I wasn't impressed. I'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones I've spoken with at other bars in Pasay, QC and Burgos. I don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.
Usually they are less "used" and I feel that they are clean. I very rarely go BB and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. Others may think I'm a fool but I believe her and I'm pretty sure that was the case.
I'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...
thanks, sugoi, for your advice and help, and for not telling me to rtff.
i did spend some time in reading the forum. but the info seems to be rep001tered around. and for some unknown reason, some links in the "report of distinction" section do not work.
i guess i may try the bars. but pdp looks pretty interesting too.
btw, may i also ask... i've heard that at one point in time, condoms are not widely available in the philippines. how's it like now? can you get them at places like convenient stores or 7-eleven? please forgive my ignorance...
thanks!
sniffer
i stay at the mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. i can tell you a lot about there and the area.
i know others may tell you to rtff but i'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. barfines just get the girl out. usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because i've never barfined a girl.
for gfe, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. girls at the bars on burgos will give you a gfe and actually want to be your gf. even ones at places like pdp or p1 will want to be your gf if you treat them right.
i prefer that route--i've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.
i have only walked through la cafe once and i was not impressed at the quality. again, i was only there for about 10 minutes but i wasn't impressed. i'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones i've spoken with at other bars in pasay, qc and burgos. i don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.
usually they are less "used" and i feel that they are clean. i very rarely go bb and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. others may think i'm a fool but i believe her and i'm pretty sure that was the case.
i'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...
Bill Buxton
01-24-07, 23:06
I stay at the Mandarin all the time and have probably stayed there almost 100 nights over the last 2 years. I can tell you a lot about there and the area.
I know others may tell you to RTFF but I'll quickly answer some of the quesitons. Barfines just get the girl out. Usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because I've never barfined a girl.
For GFE, you can pick up freebies at bars and other places but it usually takes too much time with an unsure outcome. Girls at the bars on Burgos will give you a GFE and actually want to be your GF. Even ones at places like PDP or P1 will want to be your GF if you treat them right.
I prefer that route--I've had many girls at bars or other places who have wanted to come to my room and could have had many in a given day. Again, treat them right and they'll give you a great time--with true feelings.
I have only walked through LA Cafe once and I was not impressed at the quality. Again, I was only there for about 10 minutes but I wasn't impressed. I'd be concerned with the hygene of some of the girls there but was never concerned with the ones I've spoken with at other bars in Pasay, QC and Burgos. I don't pick the skanky or real wild ones and usually take the pretty ones with very little makeup who look innocent.
Usually they are less "used" and I feel that they are clean. I very rarely go BB and have only done so with 2 regulars and one other who told me she had never done it without a condom. Others may think I'm a fool but I believe her and I'm pretty sure that was the case.
I'll be back in a few weeks--looking forward to it...
Ok lets break this shit down.Any girl I ever had will say and anygirl anywhere will say they want to be your gf here.Taking a girl here is not rocketscience guys.They all want cash and free pussy is not what it is at all.
Any guy that takes a gal from a bar that weares not to much make up is or has the best eyes I have ever heard of.The bars a re dim or ultra low in the light dept just for the smoke and mirrors effect.I have bf'd gals that when you get outside I thought to myself,is this the same gal or what?
You can get what ever or whoever you want is this place.
I went by a funeral home 3 weeks ago,and scored a gal from there greeving over an ex bf!Yes thats the truth!I talked to the gal and in 2 short days after she was less bareved she was sucking my cock.Gentlemen yes that is just how easy things are here.Send the body to manila for cremation and the widow is on the way to the next A.T.M.
Again 100 days here would not qualify you as an expert at the games here.
Please dont flatter yourself into thinking you are all that here.Any guy any where at any time can get what he wants no problem at all.
B.B...
I agree BB. The girls always have a motive for dating us. Whether it's food, money, or just a hotel room with a hot shower and A/C. I pick up freebies all the time, but lets face it...nothing is ever free. A guy in a wheel chair could get fixed-up with a hottie in less then two hours in the Philippines. It's that damn simple. It's just purely economics and their way of surviving in a country that hardly takes care of its people.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
Bill Buxton
01-25-07, 04:25
I agree BB. The girls always have a motive for dating us. Whether it's food, money, or just a hotel room with a hot shower and A/C. I pick up freebies all the time, but lets face it...nothing is ever free. A guy in a wheel chair could get fixed-up with a hottie in less then two hours in the Philippines. It's that damn simple. It's just purely economics and their way of surviving in a country that hardly takes care of its people.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
IT'S NICE TO SEE ANOTHER GUY LOOKING AT THINGS HERE WITH HIS EYES OPEN.There are so many fools here and yes I SAID FOOLS.Many guys have settled into life here and got not a thing to show for there efforts.Please let me finish,yes there are some that have taken great gals away from this place to good lives.And there are others that have been fleeced to the hilt.Come on think!!!! why would you buy anything here that you can not own in your name completly!! Why invest to make peso when you can make dollars ha?
ANULMENT,That was the first text of the day on my phone when I woke up today.The gal I am seeing wants me to pay 80,000 for the process.And then she said the husband will require a payoff to sign the paperwork.You have seen what I write, and herd what I say here, so let me ask you. Do you think BILLY BUXTON will fall and pay for todays scamm!! The answer is FUCK NO! FUCK NO!!!This text is just one of a million thought out scamms by profesional scammers here!The problem is many would and do fall in the trap,and while thinking with the LITTLE HEAD.NOBODY CAN EVER MAKE A GOOD DECISION WHILE A GAL HAS HER LIPS AROUND YOUR MEMBER,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT!!!
ASS OVER HEAD,or ass on the brain is not a good way to wonder through life.Am I guilty of this SURE dio I know I have made mistakes 100%SURE.Do I repete the mistakes I have made here,never!!
Guys never buy anything here and never get serious about anyone here unless you invest "TIME",a long time with the person.And then and only then will you have a 50/50 chance of sirvival.It's not just the gals scamming here it's everyone!It's a culture you will find hard to understand but they will FUCK THERE BEST LIFELONG FRENDS ALSO.There are no limits here on getting hosed so be aware of what's going on.They will smile at your face and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in your pocket every time!
TAKE A REST AND GET SOME ASS AND PLAY THE GAME AND YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP!
PEARLS FROM THE DESK OF; W.BUXTON...
Ok lets break this shit down.Any girl I ever had will say and anygirl anywhere will say they want to be your gf here.Taking a girl here is not rocketscience guys.They all want cash and free pussy is not what it is at all.
Any guy that takes a gal from a bar that weares not to much make up is or has the best eyes I have ever heard of.The bars a re dim or ultra low in the light dept just for the smoke and mirrors effect.I have bf'd gals that when you get outside I thought to myself,is this the same gal or what?
You can get what ever or whoever you want is this place.
I went by a funeral home 3 weeks ago,and scored a gal from there greeving over an ex bf!Yes thats the truth!I talked to the gal and in 2 short days after she was less bareved she was sucking my cock.Gentlemen yes that is just how easy things are here.Send the body to manila for cremation and the widow is on the way to the next A.T.M.
Again 100 days here would not qualify you as an expert at the games here.
Please dont flatter yourself into thinking you are all that here.Any guy any where at any time can get what he wants no problem at all.
B.B...
Hey BB,
I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means. I only stated I spent about 100 nights at Mandarin--many more than that at other hotels and in condos. But, I probably won't be staying there much more since I'm buying a condo next month.
I'm also not thinking that I'm "all that" as you state. I'm merely stating that it is easy to get a GFE here if that's what you're after. You can treat them like crap and still have a GFE but it's much easier and to me, much more enjoyable when you treat them like a GF. It may be for just a few hours but it's a better experience IMHO.
My reply wasn't meant to elevate myself but instead say what you said: Anyone can get a girl without a problem--and it's not difficult. I've been telling one of my clients in the USA who is about 55 years old that he can go to PI and find a 18-25 year old girlfriend in a week at most. If he hadn't just started at this company, he'd probably go.
Cheers,
Sugoi
IT'S NICE TO SEE ANOTHER GUY LOOKING AT THINGS HERE WITH HIS EYES OPEN.There are so many fools here and yes I SAID FOOLS.Many guys have settled into life here and got not a thing to show for there efforts.Please let me finish,yes there are some that have taken great gals away from this place to good lives.And there are others that have been fleeced to the hilt.Come on think!!!! why would you buy anything here that you can not own in your name completly!! Why invest to make peso when you can make dollars ha?
ANULMENT,That was the first text of the day on my phone when I woke up today.The gal I am seeing wants me to pay 80,000 for the process.And then she said the husband will require a payoff to sign the paperwork.You have seen what I write, and herd what I say here, so let me ask you. Do you think BILLY BUXTON will fall and pay for todays scamm!! The answer is FUCK NO! FUCK NO!!!This text is just one of a million thought out scamms by profesional scammers here!The problem is many would and do fall in the trap,and while thinking with the LITTLE HEAD.NOBODY CAN EVER MAKE A GOOD DECISION WHILE A GAL HAS HER LIPS AROUND YOUR MEMBER,PLEASE REMEMBER THAT!!!
ASS OVER HEAD,or ass on the brain is not a good way to wonder through life.Am I guilty of this SURE dio I know I have made mistakes 100%SURE.Do I repete the mistakes I have made here,never!!
Guys never buy anything here and never get serious about anyone here unless you invest "TIME",a long time with the person.And then and only then will you have a 50/50 chance of sirvival.It's not just the gals scamming here it's everyone!It's a culture you will find hard to understand but they will FUCK THERE BEST LIFELONG FRENDS ALSO.There are no limits here on getting hosed so be aware of what's going on.They will smile at your face and [CodeWord140] (http://isgprohibitedwords.info?CodeWord=CodeWord140) in your pocket every time!
TAKE A REST AND GET SOME ASS AND PLAY THE GAME AND YOU WILL COME OUT ON TOP!
PEARLS FROM THE DESK OF; W.BUXTON...B.B.,
I fully agree with you, but I honestly have to say that not all the filipina are like that.
For sure most of the girls working in bars are just trying to have a better life (wouldn't you do the same if you are in the same situation?), but there are a lot of nice and "normal" girls.
I go to the Phils for 10 days every 2 months, and I can tell you that I've met a lot of normal, who don't accept to spend a night in a nice hotel, even if they earn less than 100USD per month (all the ladies at the shopping malls earn less than that).
It's full of scams over there, but there are also normal and very nice people.
Bill Buxton
01-26-07, 03:59
Hey BB,
I'm not claiming to be an expert by any means. I only stated I spent about 100 nights at Mandarin--many more than that at other hotels and in condos. But, I probably won't be staying there much more since I'm buying a condo next month.
I'm also not thinking that I'm "all that" as you state. I'm merely stating that it is easy to get a GFE here if that's what you're after. You can treat them like crap and still have a GFE but it's much easier and to me, much more enjoyable when you treat them like a GF. It may be for just a few hours but it's a better experience IMHO.
My reply wasn't meant to elevate myself but instead say what you said: Anyone can get a girl without a problem--and it's not difficult. I've been telling one of my clients in the USA who is about 55 years old that he can go to PI and find a 18-25 year old girlfriend in a week at most. If he hadn't just started at this company, he'd probably go.
Cheers,
Sugoi
Guys I have spent more money here learning the deal and still fall in the shit over and over.I am sure I have spent the down payment on the farm down east already.But I only spend what I am prepared to loose.Thats life but,I try and clear up the visions seen here by most through the rose collored glasses.YES THER ARE GOOD GALS HERE AND I HAVE AND DO HAVE 2-3 SEE HOW I AM.The people here are good and yes they will try for cash if you get too close.Please stay arms length away and look before you jump into a shitstorm.
The gals have to do what they have to do with what they have.Thats pussy for sale or rent.I have never had a gal that treated me bad or on the other hand I treated bad.Even the shorttime scammers that want to jump on and off.Money talks and nobody walks.I do hate the bars and try and get a new gal to think about getting a better job if I get the chance to talk to her I tell here to get out of the bar.The bar is a one way street to shit IMHO and most hate what they do but have no choice.After all what guy would want a gal thats had 2-3-4-5hundred guys before him??? NOT YOURS TRUELY thats for sure.And please do not tell me that there are no girls that have had that many guys.If they have worked for several years in the bar you can bet that I am not to far off the mark.Some long time bar gals are like throwing a hotdog down a hallway when it comes to there pussy.
I bf'ed a gal last nite who for the only reason went with me, because she needed cash.Her mom is in jail I guess and she feels she needs to help as they all do.Many reasons many scamms but we all get better service and better quality from the gals here.Any of my friends back home would dump there wives if they spent a week here I am sure of that.The other thing is they would not want to stay here because of the money and inability to own things in there own names.This is the truth and the facts as I see them so do what you like.
I see everyday smart guys doing STUPID things here because of little brown pussy so stay sharp.After all the fucking you are facing could be better that the fucking you will get in the end.I have seen it, lived it, and now wright about it here.
B.B...
BB, Thanks for all the good advice, but it seems you are mostly talking about bar girls. Maybe you could elaborate on your good and bad experiences with non-bar girls.
X
I see everyday smart guys doing STUPID things here because of little brown pussy so stay sharp.After all the fucking you are facing could be better that the fucking you will get in the end.I have seen it, lived it, and now wright about it here.
B.B...
Bill Buxton
01-27-07, 00:50
BB, Thanks for all the good advice, but it seems you are mostly talking about bar girls. Maybe you could elaborate on your good and bad experiences with non-bar girls.
XPlease remember all the gals here look at us like ATM MACHINES WITH FEET thats a fact.Weather its at the mall,hotel,corner store.Yes the people here are not rich but we are all considered rich.The gals will all try to get your cash and some not at first.
Just be careful how you paint your picture and what you say to them.Any guy with a clean shave and some pera can get whatever gal that tickles his fancy here.Non bar gals are just as easy and will play games sometimes better than the barflys.
Are there some good ones here YES for sure,are there some shit gals here Yes is the answer to that.The problem is that anyperson getting a gal here does not know the past of the girl.She might have been the most naughty gal in a bar for a long time.She might be working a different job now and you or I hit the bait.Or she might have relathives that are helping or forceing her to monkey with us.You never know so keep your head up.
B.B.
FreebieFan
01-30-07, 09:17
Am an English guy living in an Asian country. Visiting Manila in next few days. I will see about 8 gals (plus Burgos visits). I will have four evenings out with regular ladies. Teachers, secretaries, cal centre etc. All of whom seem to enjoy my company when I go there and NEVER ask for money. I lived in Makati for 5 years before and thats how I got to know my "freebies". Always take them to Sogo in Pasay.
Have two new friends to date probably for an afternoon shag. They are working in call centres and chat seems to sugget it will be free but even if its a handba or whatever its still almost free.
And theres two from Market Market store that I met on last visit. Gave them US$25 each. Not for sex. But so that they would be available for me next time. Will they. I'm not sure. But potentially 6 free out of 8 seems good odds for me. And because theres such a good amount even if one strikes out and don't want to be with her will move onto next. And thentheres always Burgos. Which is always fun specially for a guy like me thats been going there for ten years and the mamasans in some bars still remember me and treat me right. Ah I love my visits there.
Checkpoint
02-01-07, 05:20
Hello guys,
I'm Janna (letter i), I'm working at Palasyo don Pedro Hotel, It's just Don Pedro st. in Kalayaan ave., near Rockwell center, I'm 22, morena, cute and petite, I'm still a student so I'm only working part time, my sched at PdP Mon-Fri 11am-5pm... If you happen to pass by in Makati pls visit me there, I promise you'll have a great time with me. See yah! mwuah!
(this is a link to my pic pls take a look!)
http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11158_26012007002.5_123_232lo.jpg
FreebieFan,
I don't care how you look at it, but nothing is ever free when your dealing with women of any country. Women always think of us men as an investment of time, which most of the time doesn't pay-off. They are just looking for the one man that does eventually pay-off...in marriage or something similar.
Always on the Quest
Yella Man
Am an English guy living in an Asian country. Visiting Manila in next few days. I will see about 8 gals (plus Burgos visits). I will have four evenings out with regular ladies. Teachers, secretaries, cal centre etc. All of whom seem to enjoy my company when I go there and NEVER ask for money. I lived in Makati for 5 years before and thats how I got to know my "freebies". Always take them to Sogo in Pasay.
Have two new friends to date probably for an afternoon shag. They are working in call centres and chat seems to sugget it will be free but even if its a handba or whatever its still almost free.
And theres two from Market Market store that I met on last visit. Gave them US$25 each. Not for sex. But so that they would be available for me next time. Will they. I'm not sure. But potentially 6 free out of 8 seems good odds for me. And because theres such a good amount even if one strikes out and don't want to be with her will move onto next. And thentheres always Burgos. Which is always fun specially for a guy like me thats been going there for ten years and the mamasans in some bars still remember me and treat me right. Ah I love my visits there.
I Barfines just get the girl out. Usually you have to negotiate a price with the girl also--others can provide prices on this because I've never barfined a girl.Last time I visited (about 6 months ago), barfines were between 1500 and 2500 PP. If you don't drink in the bar they try to charge you 2500, if you had a few drinks, they will charge 1500. The girl will be happy to go with you for the same price, even for all night, but you better check that with her first. My favourite bar used to be Bottoms, which is one of the wildest. Flamingo is less aggressive for a first timer. It is very important that you build a friendship with one of the mamas and the waitress. You will get a few beers out of them for free that way, and if you return they will try not to cheat you too much. You need to track what you spend carefully or the bill can become huge. I haven't been cheated yet in the bars (meaning that they added something you never had).
The girls I have taken home with me have always been very friendly. Of course they go with you for the money only and if you ask them, they will tell you that frankly. Still, they prefer to go with a nice guy and will give you a GFE if you treat them as their GF. There is no need to take them shopping the next day and there are generally no expectations. But if you do take them shopping they will go for it, of course (as would any woman in the west do too).
If you see them a couple of times (I have a few favourites) they will start to consider you as a BF, meaning they will tell you everything about their family and complain about their other BFs;.). But they will still want the money.
Over the years I have had quite a few GFEs in Phil (it is my favourite place for the hobby). I have never overpaid nor underpaid, have had quite a few laughs and overall a very good time. I have never had a really bad experience.
On bareback: don't. Girls usually will not do it without, and if they do, you are not the first one. Girls from Burgos claim they get tested at least once per month. Girls from LACafe or other freelancers are not tested at all. True, you can get cheaper pussy in the malls or at the LA Cafe, but to me it isn't worth the risk. When I inquired with some of my favourites about LA Cafe they seemed truly horrified I would even consider going there.
Traveler 99
02-02-07, 01:39
Hello guys,
I'm Janna (letter i), I'm working at Palasyo don Pedro Hotel, It's just Don Pedro st. in Kalayaan ave., near Rockwell center, I'm 22, morena, cute and petite, I'm still a student so I'm only working part time, my sched at PdP Mon-Fri 11am-5pm... If you happen to pass by in Makati pls visit me there, I promise you'll have a great time with me. See yah! mwuah!
(this is a link to my pic pls take a look!)
http://img166.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=11158_26012007002.5_123_232lo.jpg2 weeks ago was lucky enough to be able to have a session with Janna. Yes they are real! And she provided me with an outstanding session. She will definitely be a repeat. Try it you'll like it!
Checkpoint
02-03-07, 00:55
Hi guys,
I'm Janna (letter I) I worked at Palasyo don pedro Hotel in Makati, Pls check me out. Its located at Don Pedro St., Kalayaan ave. Near rockwell center. My schedule is 10am-5pm. See you all!
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