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Travel Spirit
11-24-07, 21:26
I am just back from a trip in Philippines. I visited Makati for first time and spent my last night in Oxford Suites. I started barhopping on Burgos and led to Flamingo. Dark inside and no pressure for LDs but because of the dimmed lighting had difficulty to spot stunners. Anyway I found the choice of the night, paid the barfine of 2200 pesos and returned to my room.
The girl was friendly especially at the bar where she performed even a good lap dance. Now on the bed anything but memorable service however she posed for some sensual (no nude) photos. She was not clearly in a harry to go away but was nagging about leaving my room. I wanted her longer because she was sweet and pleasant. I finally said that it was OK to go off.
She replied: ''Give me my money".
I had the information that the tip for long time is about 1000 pesos in this overpriced area but I had doubt about this because the barfine in Flamingo bar is low by comparison with some others. On the other hand it was about short time and the performance of the lady was mediocre.
Well I proposed 500 pesos and she complained quietly asking for 2000 pesos. I laughed to myself and gave her 1000 pesos not making allowance for further talking back.
Do you believe that I overpaid?
In conclusion I believe that in looks the ladies in Burgos are not so much better than Angeles ladies so as to pay over twice as much.
American Local
11-25-07, 09:36
Stay away from Burgos. All those bars are owned by the same owners, about 2-3 of them. When they raise the prices on the drinks and bar fine, they all do it together. Greed is killing them now. Before, Burgos used to be a happening place, now it's a ghost town. When you buy a drink for a girl, it's 350pesos? ($8) Philippines is still a 3rd world country! You can go to Malate or EDSA and the barfine is only 1000 pesos (instead of 3500 at Burgos) and the girls are much friendlier, prettier, nicer, etc. Plus, I hate being mobbed by the girls at Burgos, pressuring me for drinks and the mamasans coming by every three minutes to buy more drinks.
Contrary to popular belief, the not all girls on Burgos are tested and clean. I know this because we have dated a few girls. Especially at Flamingo, girls there are known to have STD's and use shabu.
If you've been to Burgos, you will notice that most of the bars kind of look and feel the same. It's because all of them are owned by the same owners.
The barfines on Burgos are all LT barfine prices. If the girl leaves before morning and it's not your idea, you need not tip her anything! She get one-third the barfine cost anyway. Tipping for poor performance is ALWAYS a bad idea. It only encourages the poor performance. However, most girls on Burgos are much more service-minded than your choice in my experience.
The girl was friendly especially at the bar where she performed even a good lap dance. Now on the bed anything but memorable service however she posed for some sensual (no nude) photos. She was not clearly in a harry to go away but was nagging about leaving my room. I wanted her longer because she was sweet and pleasant. I finally said that it was OK to go off.
She replied: ''Give me my money".
I had the information that the tip for long time is about 1000 pesos in this overpriced area but I had doubt about this because the barfine in Flamingo bar is low by comparison with some others. On the other hand it was about short time and the performance of the lady was mediocre.
Well I proposed 500 pesos and she complained quietly asking for 2000 pesos. I laughed to myself and gave her 1000 pesos not making allowance for further talking back.
Do you believe that I overpaid?
In conclusion I believe that in looks the ladies in Burgos are not so much better than Angeles ladies so as to pay over twice as much.
I passed through here on the way from Davao to leaving the country.
This happened to be the day that the bomb went off in Glorietta, killing several people. That night the mall was closed, along with Hard Rock Cafe and TGI Friday.
Lots of people were milling around the edges where the police had set up barriers. This ended up being one of my more ghoulish places to pick a girl up. There were a pair hitting on me for a while. I only liked one of them and I got her number.
My original plan was to meet a contact from Filipino Kisses. But she started making plans to invite half of her neighborhood and letting you know who foot the bill. I just told her that maybe that wasn't a good idea and I'll see her some other time.
So I called up the girl that I met earlier at the scene of the crime. We met at the front door of the hotel, the Renaissance. It's guest friendly and all, but as has been reported before they do need an ID shown and some form filling.
The sex was pretty good, GFE, enthusiastic and all around the room in different positions. I paid 1000 for it (wasn't much more than an hour). All in all it was better than paying for a bunch of friends and relatives to hit the town.
I still had time to hit the EDSA entertainment bars. In my satisfied state I was only going to take home if she was something fantastic. I didn't find any such thing even after 5 bars. It wasn't that bad (except for the music selection), but I wasn't feeling needy at all.
As usual the taxi drivers here were exemplary pricks. One of them even had the nerve to try to play off of the terrorist attack: "My cousin was hurt in the attack...I think I need money to help his family...yada yada."
Always be on your guard here.
FreebieFan
11-26-07, 05:41
Ok. maybe its more epxensive that som other places.. but its still very enjoyble and we all have different experiences.
Ive been going there for years and its true that prices go up and down.. but i recommend to going to some of the "other " bars there.. theres always fun to be had.
The quieter bars wil always have buried treasure. Try High heels. sometimes some gems there.. try Stardust.. I always have fun there.. ok..now its Foxys; Mascara early evening is great. Rogues has the cheapest beer and also chaepest hally hours.. and the girls are great. especially later when well juiced.
For me I dont bother with Bandidos or Flamingo. Crap. But all the other bars. are fun when you get into it.
Kyper Aramis
11-26-07, 11:32
Does anyone know the name of the place right across the Oxford Suites? It's like a two level building with a sports bar on top and a floor show on the bottom. Walking into that place with a couple of buddies of mine and we knew that it really wasn't as packed as it should have been. We weren't brave enough to check out EDSA but since our hotel was close by, we decided to check out the closest place and since our eyes were going ga-ga over everything (first time on P. Burgos) we didn't really catch the names of the bars we walked past. Besides, it was really really raining that night so it wasn't the most conducive to bar hop. My mate barfined a girl and he paid 3500 for it but I was able to negotiate it down to 3000. I don't know if he tipped her in the morning (I was too busy nursing a hangover and didn't bother asking him) and as since I didn't really care to partake in such activities (since I had already blown my load earlier) that was the last thing on my mind. The price of the beers were spot on (350p) and we didn't bother with the ladies drinks because, well, what was the point if they could be barfined anyway? My question was, is 3000 reasonable? All things considered when you do the currency exchange, it was still a darn good deal but. What do you think?
Personally, I would have wanted to get the mama-san. Mature older more experienced women rock my world.
Ok. maybe its more epxensive that som other places.. but its still very enjoyble and we all have different experiences.
Ive been going there for years and its true that prices go up and down.. but i recommend to going to some of the "other " bars there.. theres always fun to be had.
The quieter bars wil always have buried treasure. Try High heels. sometimes some gems there.. try Stardust.. I always have fun there.. ok..now its Foxys; Mascara early evening is great. Rogues has the cheapest beer and also chaepest hally hours.. and the girls are great. especially later when well juiced.
For me I dont bother with Bandidos or Flamingo. Crap. But all the other bars. are fun when you get into it.
ok agree,
but Im not convinced that makati gurls are much better in quality and service then edsa gurls. Maybe you guys post some pictures here so we can compare.
Even my last visit on edsa doesnt impress me much, maybe Im spoiled.
For a change I fly next month first to Bangkok, then to Manila then heading to AC. Im not sure if I stop at Makati, last time I watched a guy slipping 3000 p to the bargurl in makati as tip for christmas!!!
Not sure what was on his mind (except pussy) I rather would give the money to streetchidlren .no wonder those gurls expectations raise more and more...
Yes you can go to Makati, but get the gurls somewhere else...
Happy hunting
Blink
Hey,
My first trip to Makati this weekend. Reading the reports I am gathering best places to hang out is Mascara, Billboard, Bronx and Foxys. Anyone else have advice to add here? . I am also looking at long time ladies, take it speak to mamasan first to check out those that will stay and those that say OK and then do a runner? . Sorry for simple questions but I tend to spend most of my time in Thailand so needing any pearls of wisdom I can get on PHP before heading across. Ta
FreebieFan
11-28-07, 04:57
Maskara is ok early. after that its small and gets busy. Id start in Rogues.
Billboard for me is crap..too many peolpe hustling for drinks.
Bronx only gets going after midnight.
Go in bars and see what suits you.. one day a bar is great next day awful. All depends who's working and how your mood is.
Try them all..and when you dont like the atmosphere..then just pay the money and walk to the next. Ignore all the touts selling you everything from fake viagra to chewing gum. They are a pest.
But its same as in Nana or Soi Cowboy.. go in.. look.. sample...stay if you like if not hunt some more.
If you have time, soo much easier to get the girls numbers and see them in the afternoon. They are all up for it..instead of the bar fine rip off.
I had the unfortunate timing of planning my trip home last Thursday after an enjoyable mongering trip at the Peninsula Hotel in Makati. My flight was in the evening and I had requested a late check-out. I thought this would be a good time to walk over to Glorietta Mall and eat.
While walking out I noticed much more security and press people. I asked the doorman and he said something about a Senator giving a press conference. I didn’t give it a thought and proceeded out the hotel.
I was at the mall for about an hour or two and decided I’d go back and start packing. When I got close to the hotel I could see there were barriers everywhere. I walked up to one of the soldiers standing there and he breaks the news to me that there is a coup attempt at my hotel and nobody is allowed in or out. I try and tell him I need to check out, grab my luggage and get to the airport. He just smiles and says “not tonight sir”.
Now the reality is setting in that I am separated from my passport, credit cards, laptop and luggage and I ain’t going nowhere tonight. That’s when the gunfire breaks out and I see a tank pepper my hotel lobby with 50mm shells. I start running for cover. All I have on me is a cell phone and two hundred bucks in pesos.
This is the part that gets interesting. After running for about a quarter mile with thousands of other Filipinos I stop and catch my breath. What do I do? To make matters worse, the word gets out there will be a midnight curfew and violators will be arrested. I grab my phone but the only local numbers I have are young ladies I have bar fined for the past 2 weeks. I called the last one I was with who works on P. Burgos and let me tell ya she was worth every bit of the 3000 plus pesos I spent on her the night before.
I told her of my plight and she said to get over to P. Burgos. There were no cabs available so I ended up walking all the way there. She met me there and took me to her apartment. It wasn’t much and she shared it with 5 other girls sleeping on bunk beds with no a/c., no hot water but they did have a television which they were all watching the chaotic happenings only a couple miles from them. It turned out that the girlie bars were not open long due to the curfew so I had food delivered and everybody was happy. It was really wild hanging out with them in their own environment.
The next morning I take a cab back to the hotel where they let me in to get my stuff. There was glass everywhere with lots of bullet holes in the lobby. I checked out and headed to the airport to get back to the real world. I can’t wait to come back here.
EDITOR'S NOTE: I certainly hope that the author or somebody else will post a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Great report DD. I am just curious how did the airline respond. I was in Makati en route to the airport when I got a cell call informing me the "Bomb" (fuel tank) exploded last Oct and I was hoping my flight would be canceled, but the airport personnel acted like it was just another day.
Robb
MrFantastik
12-04-07, 09:32
I wanna know if there's the curfew yet in the city.
Best regards
McGillicutty
12-05-07, 04:01
I wanna know if there's the curfew yet in the city.
Best regardsCurfew was lifted a couple of days ago brother.
Anyway, now that I've been back a few days I wish I was back in the land of LBFM's.
How about the land of the Brown Eyed, Double Breasted, Split Tailed, Mattress Thresher?
Strikingly Horny And Grabbable Sexpots
FreebieFan
12-07-07, 02:24
Outstanding report. I can picture the scene as I lived there for 5 years and still return every month or so.
I was in Burgos on New years day after Y2K. Jan 1st 2000 when no one knew if anything would work. Makati Ave and Ayala Ave were totally blocked as there had been a huge street party. And no taxis anywhere. Had to walk from New World Hotel to Burgos. And the bars were open but no guests in any of them. Some bars were in darkness as the staff had heard a rumour that there was no power from the Y2K thing. There was power everywhere but they preferred rumours to reality Anyways spent a happy 4 hours in Dimples with 10 girls and no guests cept me and another 2 hours in Foxys. Where I was dancing with the girls on the stage. Funny memory. They kept me well entertained. But Philippines in a dramatic moment. Theres no place like it.
Just got back from a few days (or rather nights) in Burgos. Stayed at the Oxford Suites right in the middle of the action, but quiet and fairly peaceful inside the hotel. By the way, nice, well appointed rooms with good, friendly service form all the staff. Also totally GF.
As for the bars. As you all report, they can be very hit and miss depending on the evening and staff and mood--with prices way too high (Ladies drinks P350, BF P3000, then normally P3000 for the girl. Makes for an expensive evening!
My personal favorites:
Rogues to start the evening, has pool tables, a bit of a sports bar feel, friendly gals, not too much 'buy me a drink' pressure, and best of all Happy Hour until 10pm with P150 ladies drinks.
Bottoms and Dimples for randy, playful girls who will happily give you BBBJ in the VIP booth, for simply the price of keeping them in drinks.
Flamingo for the revolving dance floor, carousel horses the gals enjoy sitting on and the active vibe (at least when I was there).
Stardust and Jools (same owner I think) for the floor shows, usually at 10: 30pm, then every hour until 2am. Great shows with the good rock covers, sexy costumes, and lively, energetic, well-choreographed dance routines by the gals. Worth seeing.
Hope this helps, lads
Went to Burgos te get some vitamine blue which is freely offered by the touts when walking down the street.
The first asked for 1,500 pesos and knowing that the market price is around the 300 mark I just send him away which made him dropping to 1,000 whcih is still carzy. I find it ridiculous when they start way beyond market price. Got it from the next tout for 300 pesos for a pack with 4 x 100 mg.
Here some tips for the deal:
- let him open the box for you to inspect the content
- here a link how to identify genuine Viagra http://wwwapp1.fda.moph.go.th/drug/eng/zone_counterfeit/viagra/viagra.asp
(from comparing the Burgos Viagra with this homepage makes me believing that the chance of having the real are in the higher percentage - anyway, you never know but as long as it works and I don't drop dead what the hack)
- Have the exact change otherwise they suddenly come up with any reason not being able to change and want to give you additional stash instead
- Had only 1,000 pesos note: hold on to the stash and your money. Let him give the change first before you release your money
The deal was a matter of less than a minute but it's surprising how many other touts (5-7) were surrounding us within seconds. My tout didn't have the change, so another tout changed the money for him. Be careful, they are a gang and stick together. Don't get irritated by the fact that the others immediately try to sell you their products while you are doing the deal.
By the way, was in Burgos last time a few years ago and was shocked how it has deteriorated. Reading that they have increased prices made my decision quick even not to bother to check the bars. There are so many other much nicer places in Manila which are also more reasonable priced.
Hope that above is of help for the one or other of you
Went to Burgos te get some vitamine blue which is freely offered by the touts when walking down the street.
The first asked for 1,500 pesos and knowing that the market price is around the 300 mark I just send him away which made him dropping to 1,000 whcih is still carzy. I find it ridiculous when they start way beyond market price. Got it from the next tout for 300 pesos for a pack with 4 x 100 mg.
Here some tips for the deal:
....
Firstly, do not haggle, when he says 1000 or what ever just say "No, 300".
They realise you know the street price & immediately agree.
Secondly, what they are selling is generic V or C manufactured in Pakistan/India. It is chemically the same drug & I can testify that it does the same job. ;)
Maybe they know my face there, but I always stock up when Im there & have no trouble buying at 250 - 300p.
Happy mongering
Amavida
JasonKramer
12-14-07, 17:45
Contrary to the past few posts on Viagra, do not buy it from the street vendors. The reason why they sell them for so cheap is because they are not real. Think about it. On Burgos, you can get it for 300 pesos, but right around the corner at the nearest pharmacy, it can cost way more.
There was a sting operation about a month ago on Burgos St. The local news covered it and the police took all those guys in to the police station and had them arrested. Since I live very close to Burgos, it was very surreal seeing all those familiar faces. The police said all the pills were fake. The arrested party also admited it was fake. When asked why they sold them, they replied, "It's easier to sell them than the watches".
What's even more scarier is that although some pills were harmless (sugarpills, aspirin, etc.) they found that other pills were actually expired prescription drugs and can be lethal and dangerous. Remember, these guys are not the highest of moral characters that are selling these products. They know all of this, and still pushing these fakes.
Just think about it. Why even risk your health and life, spend the extra $$$ and buy it from a pharmacy.
For the person that thinks this is real. It's all in your "head". No pun intended.
Bottoms and Dimples for randy, playful girls who will happily give you BBBJ in the VIP booth, for simply the price of keeping them in drinks.Just wondering how much the VIP booth was? When I was in Bottoms they quoted me 3000P to go upstairs to the VIP booth.
Thanks
Robb
Just wondering how much the VIP booth was? When I was in Bottoms they quoted me 3000P to go upstairs to the VIP booth.
Thanks,
RobbI didn't pay anything for the VIP Booth, but it was expected that I keep my gal in drinks, and then give her a tip as I left. I was there with her for about half an hour, and she was very enthusiastic about her BBBJ!
Actually, was there with a buddy, who was in the same booth with a gal. From what I could see (and hear) he was definitely getting the same enthusiastic treatment that I was! I ended up buying my gal two drinks in the VIP space and also gave her 500P as a tip, which she seemed to accept graciously.
All in all, a pleasant, satisfying time that didn't break the bank!
Speaking of BJ booths, anybody hear about Montana's on P.Burgos? Last week they got shut down for hiring GRO's as young as 16. The police there tend to raid a lot of the places this time a year to augment their meager police salary.
Hi,
Wanted to report on a nice story which I am in the middle of right now, and keen to hear your views as to whether this is a "common" type of story for Makati or rather something I should be really enjoying as a "one-off" kind of experience. In Indonesia -- the scene I am most familiar with, this kind of experience is very common but not being very familiar with the Manila/Makati scene, keen to hear feedback.
About 5 weeks ago I came to Makati for a business trip for about 3 days. One evening I went to Greenbelt 3's Cafe Havana about 11pm or so on my own and, after having a few drinks inside and dancing to the tune of the salsa live band, a girl (28yo, gorgeous body, so-so face) came to me, showed her interest and we started dancing together. One thing led to another and we went back to my hotel for some delightful GFE boum-boum all night. She came to my hotel the following night, same GFE deal. No money asked, nothing, pure GFE and sex -- ideal for people like us. Now I am back in makati for a couple of days and she came over to my hotel last night, we had a pleasant buffet dinner together and then spent the night together as if we were BF/GF.
This girl has worked in a daycare centre in Australia for 3 years. She is now back in Makati, she does not work, she says she does not want to work in the PI's because pay is too low, so she simply hangs out, goes to the gym daily, spends the money she saved while in Australia. She seems a bit bored (I guess all her friends have an occupation which leaves her probably lonely during the day). She does not ask me for any $$ (so far) and no hints she will ask me for any $$. She wants to head to Europe in a few months to work in a daycare for a year or so and then again come back to Makati.
Somehow I am puzzled that she does not ask me for $$ (so far at least).
What do you guys think ? Is my story common or am I really lucky?
As most of us mongers will tell you that the girls want money or a ticket out of Philippines. Some of the girls are very inteligent and take there time in getting you hooked over time where they can eventually dig into your bank account. However there are those acceptions and I had one and hopefully maybe you did too. I met a woman at a place called the wine shop in cebu sometime back. She was I found out upper class and well off with businesses of her own. She was 38 half Chinese/filopina and extremely attractive. We had dinner and hooked up later in my hotel for the night which she was always aware if she ran into anyone that would hurt her social staus. Anyway I corresponded and saw her numerous times and we slept had fun and enjoyed our time together. No money and if anything she paid half the time. Time and disance kept us stop communicating. But yes this is rare but possible in the Philippines.
Ilongo_boy
12-17-07, 22:36
It happens more often than you think. I was introduced to a 19 year-old nursing student a few years ago, now we get together every time I'm in town. We enjoy each others' company and no money exchage hands.
I've been going back and forth for about 5 years and I usually prefer P4P but every now and then I meet someone or get intoduce to someone and we ust hit it off...again no money ever mentioned.
FreebieFan
12-18-07, 02:54
Hi,
I lived in Makati for 5 years and left about 4 years ago. During my time there I had a good assortment of teachers, doctors, secretaries and others. All were free. But the best part is that I keep going back there. Say every 2 months. And before I go, I arrange with whoever I see on my phone book, or yahoo messenger etc. I always arrange afternoon meetings. And never any money. Its truly amazing. They seem to enjoy the good shag. I do too. Were all happy.
In Jan this year I met one girl Id been chatting with. Took her for a coffee at Sofitel then drove to Sogo. No objection. Great time. And no pay. Dropped her off and shes always first on my list every time I go there. And she seems to actively wait for me. Lifes great when you treat the girls right.
Luckily I seem to have found out through trial and error how to play this game elsewhere as I now live in KL. And have four sweet ladies on the go. All on the free tooo. Two Malay, one Indian, and of course a Filipina.
Lifes good. And this is common. !
Somehow I am puzzled that she does not ask me for $$ (so far at least). What do you guys think ? Is my story common or am I really lucky?This is kind of funny because it happened to a friend of mine staying in Oakwood. He also picked up a girl from Cafe Havana and took her back to the hotel. What makes this funny is we told him that most girls there are working and he said that he wasn't going to pay for sex. Long story short, he found a girl and thought they just hooked up and the next morning he called us to come and help him.
Seems he woke up and she was dressed and asked him for 5000P and he freaked. He got her down to 3000P and went for his wallet and it was empty. She took his money sometime during the night. So we call the hotel security and when she heard that, she got naked again and jumped back into bed, so the hotel security guard would see that she had either had sex or spent the night (still not sure why she did it). Security finally got her out of the room, but it was a big mess.
We had a lot of fun the next week teasing him about his free sex:D
In the Philippines you never know.
Stay safe,
Robb
I can also attest to this being possible and somewhat common.
I met a girl at LA Cafe and she came with me for no money. (I had specified this before we left, after having had a nice interaction with her.) Of course I paid for meals, but she was very good about not abusing this. We really felt comfortable with each other, and I'm pretty sure she enjoyed the sex more than I did.
I think this happens if you've got the right chemistry with someone, and they are not desperate for the money.
I met a girl at LA Cafe, and we had a nice interaction. After about 5 or 10 minutes, I asked her if she liked me enough to go for free, and she said yes.
I've spent lots of time with her, and she's great. We have great chemistry, and she's not desperate for money, so that's probably a major factor. I think she enjoys the sex more than I do (another major factor).
I have been working in Makati for some time now and have found it a nice break once in a while to catch a massage in one of these 300 peso massage spas that are in the neighborhood. For another 500 peso you can have a happy ending and go back to work refreshed. What a wonderful city.
Hello Valiant,
So if I understand well, you just go in a normal spa in Makati and you ask for a normal massage. Then you give the girl 500 pesos and you got an happy end.....That's a good idea.
Nearly all the tourists, I included, go to the special house massage, where the entry costs from 1000-1500 pesos without the happy end or sex, that will costs from 1000-1500 pesos more....
Does it really works like that Valiant?
How are the girls in these spas? Not too old? Quite pretty?
Met another girl at Starbucks next to Cafe Havana Greenbelt. Talked to her and her friend for a while, and they were both fun and flirtatious.
Today I met up with them for a bit, and after a couple hours my girl and I head back to my place. She was very into the sex, and she asked for no money. The whole time, I thought she would expect something, but fortunately she didn't.
In everyone's experience, if the girls expect money, are the terms always laid out in advance? Or do some girls assume you know you should pay, depending on where you've met them?
Hello Valiant,
So if I understand well, you just go in a normal spa in Makati and you ask for a normal massage. Then you give the girl 500 pesos and you got an happy end.....That's a good idea.
Nearly all the tourists, I included, go to the special house massage, where the entry costs from 1000-1500 pesos without the happy end or sex, that will costs from 1000-1500 pesos more....
Does it really works like that Valiant?
How are the girls in these spas? Not too old? Quite pretty?
Volpone,
Yes, it does. However, these are two different experiences. The high end places with the fishbowls are nicer and the women much better looking. The difference is cost and convenience. I have had the same woman both times and she is 40ish and somewhere between a 4 and a 5 in looks. Her skills are good and she knows what you want. Another tradeoff is price, 800 pesos versus a minimum 2700 pesos.
Valiant
FreebieFan
12-28-07, 04:41
Just confirmed a Makati trip in next few days. I'm a regular visitor there but always like to line up my fish well in advance. I so love this part. Who shall I take to Sogo, which Burgos babe will get my sms, which massage place will I go to.
Even placed a coule of adverts in some tried and tested places. Lets see which particular fish are biting. Ah the great sense of anticipation. 3 days and always 4 pretty ladies in one bed or another. The joy of giving. And receiving hohoho.
Just confirmed a Makati trip in next few days. I'm a regular visitor there but always like to line up my fish well in advance. I so love this part. Who shall I take to Sogo, which Burgos babe will get my sms, which massage place will I go to.
Even placed a coule of adverts in some tried and tested places. Lets see which particular fish are biting. Ah the great sense of anticipation. 3 days and always 4 pretty ladies in one bed or another. The joy of giving. And receiving hohoho.Hi,
Could you let us know which place for adverts you have tried and can recommend?
Thanks
FreebieFan
12-31-07, 01:17
Well. You could review Adpost. Then again Friendster classifieds can be a good yielding spot. But theres a new one thats giving me up to 25 emails a day (and free too) that I'm not up to sharing yet. Lets just say that from it have made 4 defintes in 4 days. Even tho on my trip I don't have time for the 4 owning to previously makde committments but in addition, two thai students who I will sample on my next BKK trip. And even a meeting in Siam Reap arranged too. The joys of technology.
FreebieFan
12-31-07, 08:21
After my Manila trip I will share the site thats creating such good results. However. Was visitng the site today and until today I wasnt sure who to pick for my Thursday afternoon/evening encounter. Always like to finish by ten so I can go to Burgos.
Anyways, was on this site and two young ladies appeared. Both single moms (they can be the best because. They know they seem like damaged goods, they don't get much love from the Filpinos for above reaason. And therefor they have lots of love to give.)
Anyways. Was chatting with both. And almost using same lines. Anyways line is a good analogy as I "hooked" both. Simple promise of buying them a dress, in a mall. Then maybe suggesting they needed panties and bra. Then asking what reward Id get and somehow getting the correct answer of a "kiss". And from there the chat moved to where the kiss would be. And how to find somewhere private to collect it etc. Anyways got two definates for Sogo on Thursday. Only problem is. Only one will collect. Ennie Meanie etcetc Anyways a great days work. Happy new years to all brothers in d Phils. Hope your barrel is also full of fish.
FreebieFan
01-07-08, 11:23
Hi. Well as promised the site that yielded some great results is DateinAsain.com. Before my Makati trip Id spent time talking to several women and had arranged what I thought would be sure fire things. Id also spent some time on Friendster. And heres what happened.
Arrived Manila aiport and got an sms from a dateinasia lady. She was 24. She was waiting for me at all mall near my place. We met and within 2 minutes were walking arm in arm. Guaranteed sign of a forthcoming fuck. Anyways bought her a dress (peso 250). And we went to my car. Within 5 mins of driving I had her zipper open. This is within an hour of meeting this gal. Just short of love I think. Anyways get to motel. Do the deed. And she starts going all lovey on me. " do you like me. Do you like being with me etc. " yeah yeah. Drop her off and go to Burgos for lots drinking. Anyways as weekend progressed she was sending me sms every hour. " do you love me. Can we go to church togethr. Can you meet my mom. ". The best one tho was " can we go to church together and then go fuck together! " advised her I had to urgently leave Manila and that was that.
Next morning met another dateinasia lady. This one a little older and clearly also not much love or bf. She was cute and turning 35. Had coffee and said our goodbyes. Then I sent her an sms saying could we meet again. But if we did. We had to go to a motel. She hummed and haad. Then agreed.
Anyways off to my next appt. A gal who I regularly shag in Manila. Small but soooo passionate. When she comes she arches her back like shes been in electric shock. Wonderfuly passionate and aregualr stop on my Manila trips. And of course free. That night met another dateinasia lady. We had dinner together and shes giving me mixed signals about playing. So we drove to a motel. But she had a bad reaction to that. So we drove out. Had some play in the car and got into her panties. Dropped her then off then out in Burgos. She then asked if we could meet again and sent me some suggestive sms. I told her would meet her at l1. 30pm the day after next. Anyways. Next day. Met the Starbucks lady went to motel and did the deed. Twice. She said I was first for over 6 months. It was fun and a pleasant afternoon shag. That night back to Burgos for more drinks. And plan my next day.
Next day I checked into a Burgos hotel at ten am. And at 10. 15 a bar gal from a Burgos bar. Came to my room. Shes cute. Always passionate with me in the bar she works etc. And a lovely slim body. About 40kgs. Anyways she stays till about 1. Pm and shes the only one I paid.
Anyways right on time about 1. 30.comes the one who declined the motel the day before. She run a business. Drives a car so isn't shabby. Anyways. Clothes off and another shag. She was dissapointed that I only shagged her once. But for me to shag two girls on 3 hours takes a lot out of me.
Anyways. Rested and wasnt sure what to do that night.
Contacted a gal from Friendster and we agreed to meet. When we met I thought she looked about 16. But shes really 20. Anyways very quiet at first and thought it wouldn't be a fun night. But she told me how bf is away etc. How she thought about becoming bi. And we had fun drinking. But I had no physical condition to think about a shag. Even with magic blue tablets. Too many late nights and drinks and I knew I couldn't raise it. So we said our goodbys. Then she sent me sms saying she was actually horny as bf was away. So heck, I agreed to meet her the next day early before my flight back.
We met at ten am. Off to a motel. And shes lovely naked. Not shy and a great 40kgs. And loved kissing. Was a great way to spend a few hours. And of course free. Thats 5 out of 6 free.
So that was Manila. 6 gals in 96 hours. A new record for me. Exhausted but damned happy!
Hope this report made sense.
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Severin007
01-09-08, 01:53
I happened on this site manilatonight.com. Much of its incomprehensible (partly in Tagalog), however there are some clubs posted I have never heard of. I always wondered where the Filipinos go. It seems like its mostly in Makati, Quezon and Pasay.
What they seem to refer to (again its pretty hard to understand) are fishbowls, NOT dancing clubs like EDSA or Burgos. Its interesting to see what the Filipinos do. It largely seems to a lot of horny kids swapping information.
Severin
FreebieFan
01-09-08, 11:38
Hi,
It started as a site where one guy pimped his girls. And if you knew the passwords there were photos and prices etc. However its since morphed into a different kind of site. Where everyone talks about whats happening. The tagalog is reasonably easy to folow as lots of "taglish" there. But if not. Any online dictioary can help. But some of these places you just wouldn't want to go to. As youd be the only white guy in the place. I used to follow the site.
How is the nightlife in Makati (by that I mean regular girls out partying) on Sundays and weeknights, compared to weekends? Thank you
Girlfinder
01-24-08, 01:22
I think Burgos st in Makati is quite dead. But sometimes you can find nice girl. I found this princess there, but expensive. Total damage 6000 peso pluss tips.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=698709#post69879
I think Burgos st in Makati is quite dead. But sometimes you can find nice girl. I found this princess there, but expensive. Total damage 6000 peso pluss tips.
http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=698709#post69879
Agreed its dead.
Insanely expensive.
The pressure for lady drinks is incredible.
No bloody wonder its dead!
I just git back to Oz on Sunday after a trip to phils, spent most of it Angeles this time.
Burgos bars only for the stupid & the seriously wealthy IMHO.
Posted a trip report in Angeles section.
Happy mongering
Amavida
FreebieFan
01-28-08, 02:07
I read your report Amavida. Sounds like a fun time. Wish I could get ot Angeles. I think the issue with ladies drinks is one thats done to death here. But having been a Burgos regular for ten years I don't find it so. I know where I want to go, I have high standards if I'm going to buy LD but more than that. Go take advantage of the various happy hours. Some extend till 9pm for ladies drinks.
Also, go visit Rogues. No pressure to buy drinks at all and cheapest ladies drinks in town.
Overall, drinks are fine when well managed. These comments about outrageous prices only apply when you let them. The other thing is LD comes in two types. Normal and premium, . If you don't have the $$. Then check what you paying for in advance.
Finally as I've written here many times. Go find your gal, make a date for the next afternoon. She will give you her number readily. Meet and screw. Leave your nights for the fun of drinking with a pretty babae in a bikini. Not wondering who your gonna take home.
LoveAsianWhores
01-28-08, 04:14
I've lived in Makati for over three years and can certainly say that Burgos is quite dead. Worse than at any other time I can remember. ESPECIALLY in the past week. The police have some how completely removed all the working girls from the sidewalks. Not that I am a big fan of the girls working on the street, but you certainly can find a honey on a rare occasion. Living in the area, I am able to walk the street several times a week, and I have found my share of great girls on the street over the years. But there is now this Police Bribe, oops, I mean Police Assistance center right on burgoss street. It is just a booth with an umbrella, but it has done a good job of "cleaning" up the street. About a month ago they started by removing the baklas. Having been mugged by a bakla near Burgos about a year ago (I got her/him thrown in jail, but a real hassle), this was great news. However, the most recent developments are not so good. Hopefully this is only temporary. With the state of the US$, I have been priced out of the Makati bars, so it sad that I can no longer afford my local neighberhood bars. With the increase of prices and falling $, the cost of a night out on burgos with a barfine has gone from about $110 three years ago to $160 today.
Thank god EDSA complex is still hopping. And they still have 1000P barfines after all these years. And the owner has been showing up regularly recently and said he will be fixing up the place (not that I find anything wrong with it). First up are some big flat screens in the firehouse. Not that I could care less about the TV situation in the Firehouse, but it may help in attracting some starry eyed new girls who have never seen a flat screen before. And THAT I care about.
LoveAsianWhores
01-30-08, 17:43
So, I set up a meeting with a regular of mine. We always meet outside of Moonlight hotel (next door to Blush) for a quickie. We haven't met in a couple of weeks, but she is a really nice girl. I get to Burgos early. I walk the length of the street like I always do. It was different. Like last week, but even more eerie. Not a single girl on the street. Not a chewing gum sales girl. Not a massage girl. Just not a girl anywhere. And lots of weird cops. Not uniformed, but not quite plainclothes either. You could tell they were cops by the gear that was showing. I felt a little uncomfortable so I checked out that new bar that just opened where Manhatten used to be and waited for a txt from my girl that she had arrived. I got the txt just as I was paying my bill. I was outside moonlight about 3 mins later. She was gone. I called her and she said she was taken to the police station. She wanted me to come down there to get her out, but last time I went to the Makati police station was because I was mugged by a bakla. I went there to file a complaint, but the police tried to say that I was soliciating a bakla prostitute. I got out of the station without issue in the end, but it was quite clear that Makati police could not be trusted. So, my girl is on her own. I feel bad, but that is just how it is. It really sucks. I think I am done with Burgos for good. I'll stick with Passay and Ermita. Not only is it expensive, but I no longer feel safe there. The police have just fucked up the place.
Wicked Roger
01-30-08, 18:47
Fellow Mongers
Here I am briefly in Manila on business and very busy as well. But I had to find time for some fun but that much as only a day or so in town and a lot work colleagues around etc. But I did think about getting one of the waitresses I shagged on a previous visit (see earlier FRs) to visit me (she is now in Cebu) and then changed my mind. Looked at seeing some trusted providers as well but thought again – work being the main issues ie too much of it and too many eyes around.
Then went on line to Cherry Blossoms and got chatting with a cute (well the pictures are) Manila based 21 year old named Geena. Nice chat, got around to talking of fucking and pussy etc reasonably quickly (as you usually do, well I do :))and after some thought decided to meet. She was going to bring her cousin (nothing strange there). She did say she had cut her hair short (not like pics) and did not look like her photos on CB so I asked the now obligatory question of her ie “are you a lady boy”. Her reply was she was full woman – my good mate in Kazakhstan (Fifty Fifty) will testify to this – read on ………
Long story short.
Picked her up outside Glorietta, had coffee inside with cousin…who is a ladyboy and very shy as well. Basically he/she was doing most of the chat while she told him what to type as she was not fast on the buttons. Agreed that Geena and I would walk around the mall while he/she stayed put. That gave us time to chat, she showed me a view down her blouse which was stunning and we agreed to go back to the hotel with cousin, but cousin would stay in lobby while WR and Geena did the deed…:)
First time with a westerner, only Filipinos to date and not many guys but she said she was fucked a lot according to her.
Now how does my good mate Fifty Fifty come into this tale, he being stuck in the wild snowy plains of Kz?
Well he and I had been chatting prior me going to the mall and when I got in G had a shower and FF was still onlione. So I placed cam so it showed the bed so FF could get a good view. Well what are mates for? :D After shower we lie on the bed and she shows a most adorable and amazingly firm rack on a Filipina that I have ever seen. It was so nice….
Had her lie back and show her boobs directly at the camera as well while I had a good feel. They are nice did i say that already?
We had agreed no shagging first time as she was shy but next time I am in town definitely (unless FF gets there first the dirty bastard!). Not fully shaved but very close and nice trim but her rack…..sorry guys no pictures but FF will testify they were nice.
Blow job and rimming. Her BBBJ was OK got better when I gave some ideas and was nice rimming as well, came all over her rack.
Not sure what FF thought but hope he was aroused enough for his little one who was arriving soon after I finished !
Overall a nice figure (7/10), nice face and lovely rack (9/10 for me as so firm and pert, never seen that before on a Filipina). Will see her again when back (even if the ladyboy sits in the lobby all night :))
Keep hard and horny
PS Went to Bonifacio for dinner, nice area not really been there before and some nice and sexy non WGs hanging around in the restaurants. One very nice (ie fall in horny lust immediately) tall dark skinned girl in yellow hot pants. Envious of the guy with her she was a stunner. Not WG IMHO bit certainly some nice eye candy there
PPS LAW read your message, no worries, next time, and saw the FR shame that but I have mates living in Phil hassled by Makati police for a car 'accident' - nothing surprises.
... there is now this Police Bribe, oops, I mean Police Assistance center right on burgoss street. It is just a booth with an umbrella...
Yeah I saw that when I was there 2 weeks ago & wondered WTF?
I saw a few flower sellers, some vitamin c vendors & a few girls hanging around the 7/11 offering 'massage sir' but certainly not in the usual numbers (swarms) of the past.
I dont go into the bars there any more. Between my non p4p girlfriends & visiting Angeles I have no intention of paying the prices asked on Burgos ever again.
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
FreebieFan
02-01-08, 08:27
Hmm sad to hear of the eerie feeling and the cops in no uniforms. But lets all remember guys that Burgos and everything in Phil is transitory. What do I mean. Ok there was a ban on smoking and Binay ent his boys to every bar and hotel to check. And four weeks later. Everyhting forgoetten and everyone lighting up again. There was a ban on fireworks at New Year. One year worked. Then next year. Same as always.
Cops on Burgos. Will last a week maybe a month. Then one streetwalker will come. Then another. Then all friends with cops. Then same as before.
Probably someone high up complained about something. An Bonay tol his boys to go and fix the problem. Realising that everyhting in Phil gets a short term fix but nothing lasts.
LoveAsianWhores
02-02-08, 06:42
And they still have 1000P barfines after all these years.I shouldn't have opened my mouth. Barfines just went up to 1, 400 as of Friday. But not too bad as there is no longer a 2 drink minimum, so it really only went up 200 pesos.
I'm headed to Manila for the first time in a couple of years and will be staying at the Shangri-la Edsa. What I was wondering is if there are any MP's or good night clubs close by, or will I need to grab a taxi and head to other parts of the city?
Thanks
Hmm sad to hear of the eerie feeling and the cops in no uniforms. But lets all remember guys that Burgos and everything in Phil is transitory. What do I mean. Ok there was a ban on smoking and Binay ent his boys to every bar and hotel to check. And four weeks later. Everyhting forgoetten and everyone lighting up again. There was a ban on fireworks at New Year. One year worked. Then next year. Same as always.
Cops on Burgos. Will last a week maybe a month. Then one streetwalker will come. Then another. Then all friends with cops. Then same as before.
Probably someone high up complained about something. An Bonay tol his boys to go and fix the problem. Realising that everyhting in Phil gets a short term fix but nothing lasts.Look, every year at Xmas the police need money so they raid the bars to extore money from the bars. In turn the bars buy the police for January. The police then kick off all the streetwalkers. Then February rolls around and the cycle returns to normal until of course next Christmas.
Look, every year at Xmas the police need money so they raid the bars to extore money from the bars. In turn the bars buy the police for January. The police then kick off all the streetwalkers. Then February rolls around and the cycle returns to normal until of course next Christmas.
Exactly so.
There is a flurry of posts about police activity in Angeles also at the moment.
Anyone who has done business in the Phils for more than 5 minutes yawns when they hear these reports.
This is the norm not the exception.
Welcome to the glorious chaos that is the Phils :)
Happy Mongering!
Amavida
Are you sure?
The police are only asking for a little Christmas generosity --- in the Christmas spirit! Come to think about it, most ladies, taxi drivers, beggers and other service people have the same line.
Pampanga's finest would never shut down the bars during high season. That would just be silly. Christmas is the time for good cheer and making money.
Everyone makes a lot of money during Christmas / N year. The bars, the police... and then along comes mid January ... the politicians pressure the police for their stake. Then the police raid the bars to make the politicians look good. Raiding bars then generates the revenue to pay the politicians.
Everyone's happy. Pumpkinko, stop trying to pretend you know what's going on in AC. If any bars are raided in Dec., it's only to increase the bribe payments. The raids come after christmas. The only thing you got right is the return to normal in Feb.
X Man
Look, every year at Xmas the police need money so they raid the bars to extore money from the bars. In turn the bars buy the police for January. The police then kick off all the streetwalkers. Then February rolls around and the cycle returns to normal until of course next Christmas.
IgoforAsian
02-03-08, 09:56
OK guys,
I just got back from an absolutely fantastic trip to the Phil. It was my first trip there, although not my first to SE Asia, and it far exceeded my expectations. I read the forum extensively before departure, and it gave me a lot of good advice. I am now torn between my desire to contribute back to the forum and wanting to protect my (our) privacy. I hope you will understand why some details are vague, so here goes:
I arrive in Manila early in the morning with my wingman/buddy, we checked in to one of the nicer hotels in Makati, and decided to walk the malls to fight off jet lag. Towards the late afternoon, we start thinking about where we should go first for girly action. I am here just to have fun and screw around; I am not looking for anything serious or long-term. From the forum, and also from my previous experience in another Asian country, I am eager to check out the freelance scene. I am thinking maybe start with the infamous L.A. Café. My wingman wants to go to P. Burgos. This area seems to have fallen out of favor on the forum, but I figure, OK, why not, we have lots of time.
So we grab a cab to P. Burgos. We start with a drink or two at Matrix, just watching the scene on the street. We see a few scary looking streetwalkers; definitely stay away from those! It is still very early in the evening, but because of jet lag, it feels very late for us, so we go check out a prominent nearby girly bar to see what there is to see. We walk into this place, and are immediately swarmed by about 6 girls each. The place is dead, so we get all the attention. The girls are massaging our arms and legs, rubbing our crotches, asking for lady drinks, etc. Although my friend seems to be enjoying the attention, it’s not really my thing, and besides, these girls are all around 4-6 in the looks category. I buy myself a couple of drinks, and buy a few lady drinks, but I refuse to buy lady drinks for all the girls, there are simply too many. Instead I say I will simply leave a good tip at the end. I just basically ignore them because none of them are attractive to me. I am feeling kind of tired and am just waiting for my friend to get his fill of the place so we can leave and maybe try another place if we can manage to stay awake.
I eventually saddle up to the bar in the hopes of losing some of the swarm, and start watching the dancers. There are three girls in bikinis dancing to the music at the back of the room, and one of them is totally hot, a 9 for sure. She has a great smile and is a great dancer. The swarm is realizing I am not that interested in them. One notices me staring at the dancer, and says: “do you like the dancer?” Hell yes, and in a minute the super-cute dancer is talking to me. We make a little chit chat and I ask her if we can leave now. The answer is she has to work until her shift is over at 1 am. There are no bar fines in this place, you just have to wait until the girl finishes her shift. Hmm, that’s strange, I never read about such a thing on the forum. Well, it is still early in the evening and I am ready to crash due to jet lag, there is no way I am going to stay there until 1 am, so I say maybe I will come back and leave with my friend. One of the girls in his swarm tickled his fancy, but she has to stay in the bar until 1 am also, so off we go.
We go grab some food, then go back to the hotel and crash at 9:30 pm. I figure that’s it, there is no way we are going out again; I am done for the night. But strangely enough, I suddenly wake up at 11 pm, and this super-cute dancer is on my mind. I feel a burst of energy, so I tell my buddy to get dressed, we are going back out!
So we head back to the place, and both our girls are still there. I make more chit chat with my cutie while waiting for the magic 1 am to roll around, and then finally we head back to the hotel. Suffice to say, this girl rocked my world. She was sweet and innocent, not a hardened pro at all, young and beautiful and very sexy. She tells me that she has only been at the bar for 2 months, and that I am only the 3rd guy to take her out of the bar. I believe her. I guess the dancers are mainly there for dancing, while the pros swarm and massage the clientele.
She says she can’t stay til morning and leaves me in the middle of the night, but we make plans to meet again the next evening. I give her 3000 P, she was worth every penny to me.
The next day, my buddy and I go to a travel agent and book our island-hopping travel adventures. We will go to Boracay, then Palawan, and then back to Manila.
I meet my girl again the next evening, and again we have a fantastic time together. This time she stays til morning, and again I give her 3000 P, saying, “This is to help you out and help her family”. This is total super-extreme GFE, and does not feel like a business deal at all. This girl is so sweet and innocent; I can tell she is very new to the business, and only doing it because of difficult economic circumstances.
She is so young and sexy, and the way she moves and dances, she has me in a near-constant state of arousal. I definitely want to see her again. The next day, we have another fantastic time together, so I ask her if she wants to meet me in Palawan next week. I am thinking to myself; I want to check out the variety of girls in Boracay, but I figure there is probably little to no girly action in Palawan, so maybe it’s best to BYOG there. She says she wants to come with me to Boracay, but not Palawan. Hmmm, I guess she knows what I will be doing in Boracay if I don’t bring her there. But I am really starting to like this girl, so I say, OK. I buy her a one-way ticket to come with us, and we can figure out the rest later.
Well, as it turns out, it was a fantastic decision to bring her along. She was tons of fun, and helped us manage the bewildering series of trikes and bankas and trikes and porters and who to tip who to get from the airport to the resort. Although she had never been to Boracay, it was great to have her along to interpret be our personal guide. Keep in mind that English is not as widely spoken in the province compared to Manila. Anyway, we had a fantastic time in Boracay. Within a day of our arrival in Boracay, I realized I was really starting to fall for this girl. Uh-oh, this was not part of the plan. Oh well, just go with the flow, have fun, and whatever happens, happens.
One thing I noticed in Boracay was that there were a lot of guys there with what looked like rental girlfriends, or maybe rent-to-own, but none seemed as hot as mine. Mind you a lot of these guys were older, fatter or uglier than me, but even some of the younger guys had girls that were just so-so in looks. Some of these girls looked quite seasoned and a bit rough around the edges. So even though I found my girl so quickly and easily, I was feeling lucky with what I had.
I really wanted her to come with us to Palawan. After a few days, she agreed. We had more fantastic times in Palawan, snorkeling, diving, hiking, etc. I taught her how to snorkel, and she liked it, then got her to take the intro to diving, and she really liked that! Absolutely the best vacation of my life.
By the end of it all, we were like two lovebirds, with tears at the airport to say good-bye. We really like each other a lot, and miss each other like crazy! Now we are trying to figure out how she can get her tourist visa to visit me ASAP back home, otherwise I will have to go back there right away.
So that is my story of I went to the Phil to screw around, and how shallow lust turned into something much more deep and meaningful. I know they say you can take the girl out of the bar, but you can’t take the bar out of the girl, but I think this case is different. I was very lucky to find a very low mileage girl that I really clicked with, and who knows what will happen in the long-term? At the very least, we had a fantastic time together in the Phil, but we both are hoping there is much more long-term potential.
General travel advice:
Bring your game! Be polite and charming to the girls, dress up a bit, wear long pants in the city, save the shorts for the beach. The more you have to offer in terms of charm, personality, looks, etc, the hotter the girl you will be able to bring back to your hotel for minimal to no cost.
And speaking of cost, keep in mind that prostitution is frowned upon in the Philippines, and many of these girls are somewhat ashamed to be doing what they are doing, but are only doing it because of economic hardship. So the less you can make it seem like prostitution, the better. This is what I love about the Phil; the line between prostitution and freebies is really blurred.
Again, if you are not too old (I am 42), in reasonable good shape and charming enough, you don’t really have to pay. There are swarms of girls there who are super-keen to find a Western boyfriend. If you buy them dinner and some clothes and take them on a romantic holiday adventure island-hopping, and give some spending money, what is wrong with that? Don’t be cheap, but emphasize that it is to help them out, or to help out their family.
You don’t really have to go to the girly bars; you can pick up girls at the Starbucks or from behind the til at any retail place. All you have to do is smile! On the other hand, keep in mind that the girls in the bars are tested very regularly for STDs, so they are definitely a safer bet than the streetwalkers.
The Phil has some of the best snorkeling and diving in the world, so if you don’t already, learn how to snorkel in a pool before you go, and do it in the Phil. It is fun and easy and provides great cover for your real purpose to go there. If you only stay in Manila or AC and never see the fabulous beach resorts, you are really missing out. Boracay has a raucous nightlife, but the girls there are definitely darker. Palawan and especially Busuanga is stunningly beautiful and has amazing diving and snorkeling, but the nightlife there is more limited. So if you like your girl light-skinned and English-speaking, find one in Manila and take her with you to the islands.
I hope this helps. I look forward to any feedback, comments or discussion.
Cheers and happy pooning!
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If you read my post I said exactly what you said. $$ to police in December. Raids in January. The job of the more seniors is to provide info in this forum. No sense in disagreeing when we agree.
I make no reference to AC. This is a Makati forum.
Are you sure?
The police are only asking for a little Christmas generosity --- in the Christmas spirit! Come to think about it, most ladies, taxi drivers, beggers and other service people have the same line.
Pampanga's finest would never shut down the bars during high season. That would just be silly. Christmas is the time for good cheer and making money.
Everyone makes a lot of money during Christmas / N year. The bars, the police... and then along comes mid January ... the politicians pressure the police for their stake. Then the police raid the bars to make the politicians look good. Raiding bars then generates the revenue to pay the politicians.
Everyone's happy. Pumpkinko, stop trying to pretend you know what's going on in AC. If any bars are raided in Dec., it's only to increase the bribe payments. The raids come after christmas. The only thing you got right is the return to normal in Feb.
X Man
Dan Hawaii
02-04-08, 12:56
Just wanted to say that I usually monger in China and this is my first trip to PI, Makati area is where we stayed. First couple of nights, it was hard getting adjusted to PI mongering, compared to China scene, where everything is pretty clean cut, no bargaining, and you pretty much know what you are buying without negotiating.
Friday and Saturday
Friday, the day of arrival, meet my friends that were in PI already and went to the Fort Bonifacio to watch friends play in a band. Did not get any action there, only non-wg there. Went to Asia Entertainment, and other bars in Roxas that night, but was to tired and headed back home. Saturday, went to Club Embassy in the Fort area, got no action there either. So we headed to Roxas Blvd, I just don’t like the fact that you need to do the deed in the establishment in one of the rooms that you need to rent. I found a real cutie from a bar next to Asia Entertainment, on the right side, we arrived late like 2am, and by the time I asked her to do the deed in the establishment at 3am, and she said she did not want to because it was late. She was hot, I regret not doing the deed earlier and not returning to her. So the first 2 days (Friday and Saturday), I did not get any action. The next day, I said to myself, I got to get laid, 2 days without any action in PI is just disgraceful.
Sunday
So we headed to Air Force One, got one from economy class. I think the only difference is that Econ class has older girls. Because the looks of the girls in all classes are pretty much the same. The cost was 3k, 1.5 k for girl and same for room. I think my friend said you can get first class girl for 5k, if you downgrade the room to business class, or something to that effect. Other wise the total costs are:
Econ class = 3k
Business class = 5k
First class = 7k
The girl I had, she looked so good with her clothes on, but with out it, her belly had ripples and fat, so I was kind of disappointed. The girl was loose as a goose, had to really concentrate to cum. She was 25 years old. But she gave a pretty good massage and CBJ, she was really a professional.
Then we were off to Dynasty on Roxas Blvd. Found a really cute girl with the biggest perfect looking tits I ever saw on a skinny girl. I thought they were fake. But when she came down from the dance floor, I felt the merchandise and it was all good. Real nice perky tits, one of the best I have ever seen. She was med dark, but so what, she had a perfect rack. Anyways, paid a total of 6k for overnight. Forgot the break down, but part of the 6k was for bar fine. I also saw a cute young girl dancing, I wanted to take her out, but they said she was a virgin, I was like, huh? Anyways, she looked young enough to be one, and she was super cute looking. I asked all the girls about her and they said the same thing, virgin. I even asked the manager of her (aka the mommy), and she said the same thing, that she cannot go out. So I settled for the girl with the rack. She was pretty tight and good fun. We all went out the next day, I guess she liked me and did not want to go home early. We went to the flea market and Asia Mall and ice-skated. That was fun, we all had girls, so it was a good adventure with “gfe dates”. But they never ice skated before and they were hugging the rail all day. So me and my friend would race around and slap the girls asses as we sped by. This girl really liked me as she kept calling and texting me to go out again, but I just was too busy. Hahaha.
Monday and Tuesday
We went to the FireHouse, I forgot why we got there so late, but Edsa is one of the best and cheaper venues to take out girls. The talent here was one of the best I seen in PI and really cheaper than Roxas. Bar fine was 1500 with 1 drink and girl is 3000. So 4500 total. I took a girl out , she was tall and had a very nice lanky body. Her looks were only average. I forgot why I took her for another day, but I had her for 2 days, she went home at around noon and came back at 7pm. We went to Nirvana and had fun there with a Tequila Bottle. My friend did not have a girl, but there were some hot dancers there that was sitting with us and my friend, I thought, damn I should have went solo, these dancers are fine. But luckily for me, the dancers do not go out, unless they really like you.
Wednesday
The next day we hit the “casa’s”. These are kind of like BBS’s, like in China. Where all the girls are sitting on sofas around a room. You then choose a girl to be your date overnight. The cost is 3k, but I think you can get away with 2500. There are 3 casas in an area on Bautista Street. Only 2 to 5 minutes away from each other. I found a nice one, that had a hot body, but ok face. We all pulled from the same casa, so all the girls were friends. We wanted this, because it was Wednesday and it was ladies night at Club Embassy in Fort Bonifacio. Went there and had an amazing time with these young dates that were so happy to be in the number one club in Manila for the first time. So we got good GFE and headed back to my rental condo in the fort area. Drank more beer there and I thought we were going to have an orgy party, but we failed to do so, should have gotten the girls more drunk.
Thursday
We went back to Edsa and I found a girl in Samba, I forgot the name, but was the bar at the end where the food place is. She was hot, but, unfortunately, when we got back home to do the deed, I found she had a baby. So she was not tight , but it was enjoyable. She has a half sister, that was cute too, but I did not have a chance to get her. She called me the next day and wanted me to buy her out again, but I was too busy, hahaha.
Friday and Saturday (last night)
Went back to the casa, and pulled from a different casa place. She was cute and fun, so I chose her. She was really slim, had a decent size rack for her slimness, but she had an awesome voluptuous butt. She was young and medium tight. We went to the Embassy club again and had a lot of fun. I got the most drunk I have ever gotten in PI, drinking vodka and red bull. We got the 8k VIP table in the larger room. The clubs here are reasonably priced, with the 8k , you can buy 2 bottles of absolute, and a lot of red bull. I got so drunk, that I could not do the deed with the girl, till around 2pm, by that time I had to pay another 3k for another day with her. Not a bad deal and was very satisfied having this bubbly personality girl with me for another day. That last Saturday night, my friends went to Air Force One again, I had my date, so I ended up at SM mall for dinner and a movie with my date. These PI girls love watching movies. Thereafter, we went hunting to many places, I think they were called Classmates and Pegasus? Anyways, these bars are the high-end places and are really rip off places. At Pegasus, we spent 12k for 5 girls for an hour each, food, and beer. And you cannot take the girls out, I think. What a shitty deal. All this time we were checking out massage parlors, and go go dancing places, I had my casa girl tagging along. What a great attitude lady, she never complained or anything, and she was just like one of the boys partying with the boys, as she was the only girl traveling around with us. All my friends were still empty handed and it was getting late (3am) so we had to go to the proven winner, the Edsa complex. I told the boys there were 2 hot girls in Space, when I went there before. One was available but had a crappy attitude, and the other was drinking with a guy and was eventually taken out. Damn, we were too late. I bought this girl a drink and was feeling her up while my date was there, she said, 2 girls tonight, and I said maybe. Hahaha. I asked if it was ok and she said ok. As the time went by, I spent all my attention with the new girl and neglected the old girl, she got a little jealous, so I had to hug her for a second and all was good. Hahaha. Eventually my boys found some girls so we called it a night, as we had to head to the airport at noon.
Conclusion
Overall a fantastic trip. I was getting worried the first 2 days without any action. But as I think about it now, wow, it was helluva fun in PI. Different action than China, but overall, very comparable.
China has prettier girls that have white milky skin. These girls are centrally located in one area, and are easy to get and find and the selection is very very huge. Think of a place with 400 girls, then imagine 30 of these places in this one town. All within walking distance. It is more guaranteed and the price structure is fixed in all establishment. No hassle and no negotiating. Girls also have no choice, they have to go with you. The hotels are also way cheaper than PI, and are of way better quality. The girls in general are alittle cheaper, more beautiful, and younger in China than in PI. The bad thing about China is that there is nothing to do during the day, except get massages or footies. And no one speaks English, but you may run into a WG that does.
Daytime activities in PI are way more fun and enjoyable. Plus everyone speaks English. Many of these places are catered to foreigners and there a lot of malls with lots of activities, such as shopping, eating, movies, ice skating, billiards, bars, TGI Fridays, Hard Rock Café, etc… Very modern Americanized planned community/development city Fort Bonifacio, has USA like condos, strip malls, clubs, restaurants, schools, hospitals, etc…
So PI is a great place, and has advantages over other places. Has the bars and go go dancing like Thailand. USA malls, communities, activities, etc. Everyone speaks English. And I feel the food is better than in China. Might be a retirement destination for me.
[QUOTE=IgoforAsian]
By the end of it all, we were like two lovebirds, with tears at the airport to say good-bye. We really like each other a lot, and miss each other like crazy! Now we are trying to figure out how she can get her tourist visa to visit me ASAP back home, otherwise I will have to go back there right away.
[QUOTE]
Very-very well done and my best wishes for a very long relationship with your girl. If you can't bring her home go there again and live it at its best.
One thing though from a senior citizen who is planing his visit to Philippines soon.
Don't you ever start sending her money for her living expenses. Don't let her get used to that. You know what I mean.
There are hundreds of sad stories about sending money here in Brasil where I am now.
Thanks for sharing too.
LoveAsianWhores
02-05-08, 05:38
China has prettier girls that have white milky skin. These girls are centrally located in one area, and are easy to get and find and the selection is very very huge. Think of a place with 400 girls, then imagine 30 of these places in this one town. All within walking distance. Good report. I was quite impressed that you managed to hit just about every worthwhile area in Manila. The only area you didn't hit was Burgos, which has an undercover police presense right now, so it is maybe a good thing you missed it. Also, you need to hit EDSA complex early. The best girls tend to get barfined before 10:00.
But I want to know more about this place. I did what you said. I thought about a place a place with 400 girls, and 30 of these places within walking distance, and I WANT TO GO THERE! I went to Shanghai last year was very dissapointed. There was supposedly some place outside of town with a bunch of girls, but I was told it was difficult to find and I never made it there.
Dan Hawaii
02-05-08, 09:35
Good report. I was quite impressed that you managed to hit just about every worthwhile area in Manila. The only area you didn't hit was Burgos, which has an undercover police presense right now, so it is maybe a good thing you missed it. Also, you need to hit EDSA complex early. The best girls tend to get barfined before 10:00.
But I want to know more about this place. I did what you said. I thought about a place a place with 400 girls, and 30 of these places within walking distance, and I WANT TO GO THERE! I went to Shanghai last year was very dissapointed. There was supposedly some place outside of town with a bunch of girls, but I was told it was difficult to find and I never made it there.
We did hit Burgos street, as our hotel for the first couple of days was walking distance from Burgos. In most cases, I found that you can not pull the girls from Burgos until after their shift. Which is pretty much on the early wee hours like 2-4am. We hit the happy hour shift, they were happy alright, but kind of butt ugly at Dimples. We did manage to find some cuties across the street from Dimples, forgot the name, there is a cute pi girl that works as the server/waitress. And we found a cute short girl and another very woman like figure lady there also. So all in all 3 pretty much do-able girls, but you can not bar fine them??? My friend did manage to entice the short cute girl to come out with us on her day off, we ended up taking her to Club Embassy and Nirvanna. She was falling for the guy and they met up again for another night of extacy. Hahaha. He told me he made a movie, I'll try and get it, but not posting it, sorry. All in all, Burgos is expensive and pretty hard to barfine girls out. I heard from my other friends that Billboards got some hotties, I did not make it there though and can not confirm on the barfine action and the talent. I think the all time best places to pull girls in the Makati area are (in order of favorites):
"The Casas"
Edsa Complex
Roxas Blvd (because more expensive than Edsa)
Its so nice to watch these girls dance so sensually on stage, either topless or in bikinis. Then you can check out and inspect the merchandise before you buy. PI girls, they got moves that just turns off your big head and little head just takes over, like auto-pilot........ Hahaha. That's a big plus in PI over China. Thank goodness it's hardly ever cold in PI. :)
Oh yeah, I remember why we came late to Edsa, because we went to LA Cafe first, in Ermita?. We tried to get some freelancers, but none of them were hot enough to pursue, I was just not in the mood to charm them. Actually some were alright hot, but for some reason they like Koreans, and they were kind of snobby. Hahaha. Because they can over charge the Koreans. Couple of my friends did pull some from there for only 1500 or 2000. Pretty cheap. We did meet a cute waitress there named Jenny. She works all the time and could not get a day off. If I had more time, i would have defineately went for her with avengence. Conclusion about LA Cafe, got some hotties, but they are snobby, overcharging, Korean loving Biatches, that would probably have given bad service. The more average looking girls are easy to get and cheap, but I was not into average looking girls, was looking for hotties. So thereafter, when ever girls ask us where we are from, we always say we are Koreans, and laugh our asses off. hahaha. Maybe they will give us better service. Hahaha. Nothing against Koreans, but they are overpaying and spoiling the market.
World Guy Sh
02-05-08, 13:16
I'm due in town tomorrow night and then have Thursday and the night as well. Have booked a place in Makati but hell. It looks like P. Burgos is a no go area (well pointless at least). Thought I would head there first as that is near the hotel.
Would be grateful for any clarification. Are even the Wild West Groups outlets not barfining? I know that Burgos is not the cheapest place in town but figured I should at least try it. Based on RTFF if I head to EDSA tomorrow the best girls will have gone. I'm crap with freelancers. Don't ask why, just am.
Will head to EDSA on Thursday, maybe try LA Cafe as well (see above). Casas. Sound interesting but hadn't factored that in nor had I factored in a trip to QC.
No time to head to Angeles.
Anyone around PM me. Can meet for a beer and hunt together.
WGS
LoveAsianWhores
02-06-08, 06:33
I'm due in town tomorrow night and then have Thursday and the night as well. Have booked a place in Makati but hell. It looks like P. Burgos is a no go area (well pointless at least). Thought I would head there first as that is near the hotel.Not a no go area, but I would agree that it is pointless. A couple of rules you should follow when on Burgoss.
1) Do not buy viagra or cialis on Burgos. If you want to buy the fake stuff, you can buy it in EDSA complex without any risk.
2) Do not buy any counterfeit DVD's on or near Burgos.
3) Above all else, if you barfine a girl, be absolutely positive that she is over 18.
With all those cops around, and no more street girls to extort, they will find any reason to mess with you. I know someone that was taken to the police station for buying a fake DVD. It happened a long time ago, but I sense that type of thing may be returning. Don't think that they won't do such things becuase it is "scaring away the customers". Just look at the situation in Angeles and all the police setups.
As someone mentioned, this will die down eventually. Maybe it already has, but I haven't been there in a week, and won't until I hear an "all clear" from a reliable board member or one of my local friends.
Dan Hawaii
02-06-08, 09:54
I'm due in town tomorrow night and then have Thursday and the night as well. Have booked a place in Makati but hell. It looks like P. Burgos is a no go area (well pointless at least). Thought I would head there first as that is near the hotel.
Would be grateful for any clarification. Are even the Wild West Groups outlets not barfining? I know that Burgos is not the cheapest place in town but figured I should at least try it. Based on RTFF if I head to EDSA tomorrow the best girls will have gone. I'm crap with freelancers. Don't ask why, just am.
Will head to EDSA on Thursday, maybe try LA Cafe as well (see above). Casas. Sound interesting but hadn't factored that in nor had I factored in a trip to QC.
No time to head to Angeles.
Anyone around PM me. Can meet for a beer and hunt together.
WGS
Edsa might still have some lookers still dancing away before 2am. It just depends if you get lucky or not. If not, try Air Force One. Roxas Blvd may be a good choice also, if you don't mind spending more money.
Dan Hawaii
02-06-08, 10:50
Will head to EDSA on Thursday, maybe try LA Cafe as well (see above). Casas.
WGS
LA Cafe, I went there once, and did not find a need to go there again. Don't know what all the hype is for that place? It is very smokey and grungy. Upstairs has cleaner air and talent is higher also, maybe because of the 100 cover charge. But like I said, many of the pretty girls are looking for high rollers, like Koreans or Japanese, where they don't mind overpaying and spoiling the market. So the first thing girls always asks you is, "Where you from?" or "Are you Korean/Japanese?". Not a good place to get hotties in your bed, unless you don't mind shoveling out 5000 for ST and 9000 for LT. However, it is an awesome place to get average girls for really cheap, 1000 for ST or 1500 for LT. The crowd is a lot of Expats who are looking for fun and cheap/average looking girls. Nothing wrong with that, and I love my fellow American, but average girls and overpaying for pretty girls is not what I'm looking for.
The bottom line, depends on what you are looking for. Who knows, you might get lucky and find a hottie that only asks for 2000 for LT. I'm in no way an expert as I only went there once, just my POV from my 1 and only experience. Next time I come to PI, hell, I might just go back to see for myself what all the hype is all about. I just may have gone on a bad day.
Fifty Fifty
02-06-08, 12:54
So I placed cam so it showed the bed so FF could get a good view. Well what are mates for? :.
And I was thinking, Ha Ha the silly old bugger has left his cam on and doesnt know about it!!
Not sure what FF thought but hope he was aroused enough for his little one who was arriving soon after I finished !.
Well as i happened to be in my Office supposedly working at that time, not much. However, with Russki babe arriving shortly afterwards, I plain forgot about seeing your bare arse, but not that rack!!
She had nicest pair I have seen on Pi ever, agreed.
Im off to Makati in two weeks, so the contact would be appreciated, but only if the one I have arranged for first night turns to be a blow out LOL.
Cheers FF
Hello Dan Hawaii,
Hope you can post more about the casas. Did you ask a taxi driver? Did you ask for "girls" or "casas" or did you know the name of a place?
X
Dan Hawaii
02-06-08, 16:08
Hello Dan Hawaii,
Hope you can post more about the casas. Did you ask a taxi driver? Did you ask for "girls" or "casas" or did you know the name of a place?
X
I see a lot of your very useful posts, thanks for giving out great info. Here's my chance on returning the favor, I sent you a PM.
I also have phone numbers to casa girls, however, I do not know what kind of girls you like. PM me if you want the digits. The casas seem to be really strict on getting their share of the money, so girls do not turn into freelancers. I know this because they actively call the girls if they do not show up for work. So I do not think you will be doing them a favor if you call them direct. The girl told me the casas take 2k , while the girl makes only 1k. Do not mess with the casas, as they seem to be affiliated with/are the mafia.
LoveAsianWhores
02-06-08, 16:20
You can ignore my last post. I just go back from barhopping on Burgos. Things are 100% back to normal. The street is filled with girls.
You gotta love the Philippines.
Next time I come to PI, hell, I might just go back to see for myself what all the hype is all about. I just may have gone on a bad day.Yes you should. LA Cafe can change on a daily basis. The most productive times for me were during the day.
Btw, great FR!
Towelboy2010
02-07-08, 05:24
LA Cafe, I went there once, and did not find a need to go there again. Don't know what all the hype is for that place? It is very smokey and grungy.
In my late 20's and early 30's I used to play with bands on the weekend. And I played in grungier places than the LA Cafe.
I am 52 now. LA CAfe reminds me of the good old days playing out, where many a night I could pick up someone from the bar with a little work between sets.
I've only been to the Phils 4 times - I discovered the LA Cafe on my last 2 trips in 2007 and it is my favorite place. I was in Angeles last time and left after a day because it seemed so mechanical with the 3 girls I took home that night - each at a different time of course. I spent 3 nights at the LA Cafe after Angeles. Good girls and a great time each night.
As they say, "To each his own".
Enjoy.
Bob
Pocket Sushi
02-07-08, 08:22
We did hit Burgos street, as our hotel for the first couple of days was walking distance from Burgos. In most cases, I found that you can not pull the girls from Burgos until after their shift. Which is pretty much on the early wee hours like 2-4am. We hit the happy hour shift, they were happy alright, but kind of butt ugly at Dimples. We did manage to find some cuties across the street from Dimples, forgot the name, there is a cute pi girl that works as the server/waitress. And we found a cute short girl and another very woman like figure lady there also. So all in all 3 pretty much do-able girls, but you can not bar fine them??? My friend did manage to entice the short cute girl to come out with us on her day off, we ended up taking her to Club Embassy and Nirvanna. She was falling for the guy and they met up again for another night of extacy. Hahaha. He told me he made a movie, I'll try and get it, but not posting it, sorry. All in all, Burgos is expensive and pretty hard to barfine girls out. I heard from my other friends that Billboards got some hotties, I did not make it there though and can not confirm on the barfine action and the talent. I think the all time best places to pull girls in the Makati area are (in order of favorites):
"The Casas"
Edsa Complex
Roxas Blvd (because more expensive than Edsa)
Its so nice to watch these girls dance so sensually on stage, either topless or in bikinis. Then you can check out and inspect the merchandise before you buy. PI girls, they got moves that just turns off your big head and little head just takes over, like auto-pilot........ Hahaha. That's a big plus in PI over China. Thank goodness it's hardly ever cold in PI. :)
Oh yeah, I remember why we came late to Edsa, because we went to LA Cafe first, in Ermita?. We tried to get some freelancers, but none of them were hot enough to pursue, I was just not in the mood to charm them. Actually some were alright hot, but for some reason they like Koreans, and they were kind of snobby. Hahaha. Because they can over charge the Koreans. Couple of my friends did pull some from there for only 1500 or 2000. Pretty cheap. We did meet a cute waitress there named Jenny. She works all the time and could not get a day off. If I had more time, i would have defineately went for her with avengence. Conclusion about LA Cafe, got some hotties, but they are snobby, overcharging, Korean loving Biatches, that would probably have given bad service. The more average looking girls are easy to get and cheap, but I was not into average looking girls, was looking for hotties. So thereafter, when ever girls ask us where we are from, we always say we are Koreans, and laugh our asses off. hahaha. Maybe they will give us better service. Hahaha. Nothing against Koreans, but they are overpaying and spoiling the market.I asked one of my longterm FL friends about this and she said the Pinays actually detest Koreans for a variety of reasons but Koreans typically will pay P5, 000 and up for a ST. Can't blame the ladies for preferring this kind of over payment for 5 minutes of unskilled labor. They really are spoiling the market. Maybe if they would ever interact with other mongerers, they could be made aware of what mistakes they are making. Unfortunately, for the most part, they stick to themselves.
Towelboy 2010,
Agree fully. I returned from Phil just 2 weeks ago and went to Angeles but left after one day as it was just totally overwhelming to me. Though I can see how Angeles works for others and my best mate would be in heaven there - so I've been talking him into it.
I had 2 great nights in LA meeting girls who wanted to be treated like girl friends and responded likewise when they were. Everyone knows why you and they are at LA, but the veneer of the pick up in my opinion makes the whole encounter valuable. One of the girls I met there, upon my asking, directed us to Ratsky's where I had a wonderful time with her listening to a brilliant cover band and then dinner at a great restaurant on the pier at Manila Bay. When we got to my hotel it was like a total GFE on first date. At 48 it reminded me of some of the fun I had in my late teens or early 20's. Anyway for me the pleasure was in the total experience and the sex was just a small but very satisfying part of the memories I hold. Can't remember what it cost with taxis, drinks, dinner and her LT but it was a fraction of what I would spend in Sydney, Australia with a stuck up princess for an experience I would rather forget.
As you say, Bob to each his own but I at least agree with you,
Also as this is my first post and have lurked for a very long time a big thanks to all those who contribute. It really helped me with my first trip to Phil and I have gained a great deal of confidence for my second which I am planning in March.
Pompolino
Dan Hawaii
02-07-08, 12:54
In my late 20's and early 30's I used to play with bands on the weekend. And I played in grungier places than the LA Cafe.
I am 52 now. LA CAfe reminds me of the good old days playing out, where many a night I could pick up someone from the bar with a little work between sets.
I've only been to the Phils 4 times - I discovered the LA Cafe on my last 2 trips in 2007 and it is my favorite place. I was in Angeles last time and left after a day because it seemed so mechanical with the 3 girls I took home that night - each at a different time of course. I spent 3 nights at the LA Cafe after Angeles. Good girls and a great time each night.
As they say, "To each his own".
Enjoy.
Bob
I will surely take you guys' advice and head back there next time I'm in PI. I guess one trip is not enough to get the "real feel" of the LA Cafe Experience.
But I heard that it has changed, and there are no Mommies there anymore, so now I'm guessing it is almost purely freelance girls? Anyone want to comment?
Fast Eddie 48
02-07-08, 17:52
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]I will surely take you guys' advice and head back there next time I'm in PI. I guess one trip is not enough to get the "real feel" of the LA Cafe Experience.
But I heard that it has changed, and there are no Mommies there anymore, so now I'm guessing it is almost purely freelance girls? Anyone want to comment?[/QUOTEDan,
I don't think LA cafe is the place for you ,I think the ktv at quezon city is your cup of tea high end white skin flipper or try miss universe near the astrodome that is where all the tawianese and japanese business man play, mommie in LA main customer is the korean they get a cut from the girl for introduce the customer to the girl fuck that I can walk up to the girl myself price at LA st double from 7 yr ago my first ST there back in 2000 is 700 peso for mongering and bar hopping no place like AC but the highend p4p is in Manila.
Fast eddie 48
Hi bro out there. I have read through this thread on LA Cafe, this will be one of my destinations when I go up on feb 12 to feb 15. Any bro out there who will be in makati, and will like to link up with an amateur like me, I will be very happy.
Thanks
Dear bro. I will be in makati from feb 12 to feb 15. Wonder whether any bro out there will be there during this period. If yes, we can link up together to go LA Cafe. I have neber been to LA Cafe and will like to go there to check it up. Those bro who are interested and dun mind me joining, I will be delighted.
Dan Hawaii
02-09-08, 10:01
Hey Fast Eddie,
nice to hear from you in the manila post. Thanks for the advice about Chinese New Years. We reversed the travel plans, went to China first and then to PI. Glad we did, since I heard lots of bad action in China now closer to CNY.
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]I will surely take you guys' advice and head back there next time I'm in PI. I guess one trip is not enough to get the "real feel" of the LA Cafe Experience.
But I heard that it has changed, and there are no Mommies there anymore, so now I'm guessing it is almost purely freelance girls? Anyone want to comment?[/QUOTEDan]
I don't think LA cafe is the place for you ,I think the ktv at quezon city is your cup of tea high end white skin flipper or try miss universe near the astrodome that is where all the tawianese and japanese business man play, mommie in LA main customer is the korean they get a cut from the girl for introduce the customer to the girl fuck that I can walk up to the girl myself price at LA st double from 7 yr ago my first ST there back in 2000 is 700 peso for mongering and bar hopping no place like AC but the highend p4p is in Manila.
Fast eddie 48
Fast Eddie 48
02-10-08, 00:39
Hey Fast Eddie,
nice to hear from you in the manila post. Thanks for the advice about Chinese New Years. We reversed the travel plans, went to China first and then to PI. Glad we did, since I heard lots of bad action in China now closer to CNY.
[QUOTE=Fast Eddie 48]Dan ,
I agree manila is better for you everyone speak english been to PI many time been to many place you should try cebu and angeles city , for me I think china is better I only spend one night in Changping last trip was at jia yi ktv over 100 girl at flower st ,I don't think I will go back to Manila any time soon every thing is going up and USD drop is not helping is not a bargin anymore.
Fast eddie 48
Dan Hawaii
02-11-08, 22:50
[QUOTE=Dan Hawaii]Hey Fast Eddie,
nice to hear from you in the manila post. Thanks for the advice about Chinese New Years. We reversed the travel plans, went to China first and then to PI. Glad we did, since I heard lots of bad action in China now closer to CNY.
Dan ,
I agree manila is better for you everyone speak english been to PI many time been to many place you should try cebu and angeles city , for me I think china is better I only spend one night in Changping last trip was at jia yi ktv over 100 girl at flower st ,I don't think I will go back to Manila any time soon every thing is going up and USD drop is not helping is not a bargin anymore.
Fast eddie 48
Yeah, I have to agree with you. Hotel and girls more expensive in Manila. But they speak english, so that makes it up for me. So where else you going this year? I think I want to try Brazil or another exotic country?
FreebieFan
02-12-08, 01:21
Wsa trawling thru some websites the other day (at work of course) in preparation for my next visit to Shanghai. Came across some filipinas looking for love. (but willing to accept sex in its place.). Anyways I told one I wsas going to Manila soon and she gave me a name of a friend in Makati. Contacted her on yahoo. Found her alone in her room. She gave me all her details where she works etc. Schools attended. Obvioiusly has a total lack of boyfriends depsite loookng great. Anyways with some gentle encouragement. Got her to get her kit off on cam. And she clearly loved to play with herself. Called her a few times. We shared a few sms. And now shes hot to play when I visit. Lifes good and theres another new one ready to be nailed. Bring on the next visit.
Fifty Fifty
02-12-08, 10:25
Hi Folks,
I am previously posting on Dubai and now Kazakhstan Forums.
Shortly visiting Pi, first of all Makati from 18th Feb for a week then touring Pi for a further week. Looking at Cebu or elsewhere.
Have a few contacts with girls from other websites to check out, but if any fellow mongers are up for a beer, any PMs will be appreciated.
I will be with a mate from DXB, as far as I know not a member of ISG, but well up for a mongering session.
Tour guides and info much appreciated.
Cheers FF
World Guy Sh
02-15-08, 16:02
not a no go area, but i would agree that it is pointless. a couple of rules you should follow when on burgoss.
1) do not buy viagra or cialis on burgos. if you want to buy the fake stuff, you can buy it in edsa complex without any risk.
2) do not buy any counterfeit dvd's on or near burgos.
3) above all else, if you barfine a girl, be absolutely positive that she is over 18. ok, had no internet access at my hotel. my pc problem, so didn't see the responses. thanks all. law, thanks for the above, and perhaps most importantly point 3 which in all my reading i had not reckoned to be an issue in the bars.
1) didn't, wouldn't
2) ditto
3) ouch. now this has got me thinking. i was made aware of one girl who started when she was 17 and lied to the mommy. the girl i went with had a consitent back story, not convinced i could have held it together after some of the drinking we did but. something is saying she might not be quite as old as she said. then again, i took her because she was attractive and looked older. mind running a bit suddenly.
ok. i gambled and went to burgos. the road is blissfully quiet, not really hasseled and the police (y)awning was empty.
flamingos. no hassle on ld's. just drank a smp and watched the girls. they smiled a bit but nothing grabbed me. anyway first stop. a few with a bit of a tum. one with very large chest. relaxed, good place to start
high heels (? ). nothing stuck out
wild west. some pretty nice ones here, one great mommy, one very pushy one. medium ld hassle
banditos. some leggy stunners here. no real ld hassle
fridays. practicarly raped. trousers undone, one trying to give me a bbbj another snogging and really pushing to leave. paid and left although the latter was very attractive. oh yeah, bf, 3500, plus 3000 quoted and not budging. and it was very quiet.
arrived around 11. 30.
wild west groups (got quoted in 3 of their places) still on 2200pso minus up to two ld's plus agreed takeout fee (manged to get some at 2000)
not going into the details of where and who i fined from. didn't go quite as planned but in a good way. you know what i mean. never got to edsa.
manila. 12 taxi trips, 13 drivers, only one didn't want to use the meter. felt pretty safe walking around on my own (makati esp) but also in well lit or busy parts of town. avoid the townships.
burgos feels like a pretty good bar street at the moment.
it's a beautiful country.
wgs
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fridays. practicarly raped. trousers undone, one trying to give me a bbbj another snogging and really pushing to leave.
wgs
yeah wgs, i've had the same experience there in friday's in the couple of visits i made there. i wonder why that bar is like that? if you are an exhibitionist i guess it would be fun but i find it overwhelming.
happy mongering
amavida
Fifty Fifty
02-21-08, 11:40
Yeah WGS, I've had the same experience there in Friday's in the couple of visits i made there. I wonder why that bar is like that? If you are an exhibitionist I guess it would be fun but I find it overwhelming.
Agreed, went there last night, by far the most outrageous bar in P Burgos we have found so far.
Went there a bit too late and too drunk to bother with any of the girls, but some stuners with Tits n Pussy out on show all over. I was even fitted out in the bikini of the now naked girl next to me = Damn Good Fun.
BF pretty steep at 3500 + 3000 for the girl !!!
My mate and I have promised ourselves we will go early and sober tonight, BF the same wild pair and have a good time.
Will keep you posted.
Cheers, F. Fifty
Hi to all members,
I am a new member in this site, but I am a regular reader.
I am so happy to met my friend here in Makati last Tuesday, he was so good and nice at all.
Hope we met again when you get back here.
Thank you so much.
Towelboy2010
02-29-08, 04:51
Back in 2003 I made my first ever trip to Manila. I read the the WSG that the Filling Station in Burgos was a good place to meet women after the bars closed around 3am. I was on Burgos for 1 night in 2003. I walked into the Filling Station just to check it out, but I was occupied the whole night by the 2 girls i picked up, plus a 3rd that was with me for a few days.
I have read nothing in this form regarding the Filling Station.
Is it still there?
Is it a good place to go later in the evening?
Thanks, Bob
Ok fella’s, I got a little dilemmna on my hands here. I have been seeing a Filipina for over 3 years and last October '07 filed papers for a fiance’ visa. Since the fees have changed here in the US, the cost is more than doubled as of July ’07 and have thus caused a backlog in processing. As of this month, they are only up to July ’07 in complete applications.
I received a letter from immigration saying they received my $455 application fee in November of ’07, which means I still have another 4 months at least until they process my application. My problem is not really the visa but has something to do with it.
I came to visit my girl in Jan. ’08 for a couple weeks and had an awesome time. A few weeks after I got back she called and said she’s pregnant. Before you guys get all crazy and say she’s pulling my leg, believe me, it’s mine and I’m excited about it. But this poses a problem with the visa.
I know you only get 90 days once the visa is approved to bring her to the US and marry her. My problem is that because of the backlog with applications, she might not be able to travel as she will be over 6 months pregnant and most doctors let alone airlines will allow her to travel. My thing is what if the visa comes during this time and she can’t travel before having the baby?
We don’t want to have the baby in the Philippines just because I believe she will get better medical coverage through me and have access to better doctors. Plus the fact that having it over there causes a little more issues with the baby being considered a US citizen. I spoke to an immigration attorney here and she said it’s not a problem with the baby being a citizen just that it may take a few extra months to get it taken care of. I’m not so worried about the citizenship but more about the travel and having the baby over there.
Has this ever happened to anyone and do you have any information on what options I have. I know the USCIS doesn’t give extensions on the fiance’ visas. Would I qualify to file an “Accelerated Processing” request?
Thanks,
Ol Timer
There is a web site called visa journey. Just go there and search pregnant. Somebody actually asked the same question.
Short answer is your Attorney is right and there is no accelerated processing.
Hope that helps you.
Ok fella’s, I got a little dilemmna on my hands here. I have been seeing a Filipina for over 3 years and last October '07 filed papers for a fiance’ visa. Since the fees have changed here in the US, the cost is more than doubled as of July ’07 and have thus caused a backlog in processing. As of this month, they are only up to July ’07 in complete applications.
I received a letter from immigration saying they received my $455 application fee in November of ’07, which means I still have another 4 months at least until they process my application. My problem is not really the visa but has something to do with it.
I came to visit my girl in Jan. ’08 for a couple weeks and had an awesome time. A few weeks after I got back she called and said she’s pregnant. Before you guys get all crazy and say she’s pulling my leg, believe me, it’s mine and I’m excited about it. But this poses a problem with the visa.
I know you only get 90 days once the visa is approved to bring her to the US and marry her. My problem is that because of the backlog with applications, she might not be able to travel as she will be over 6 months pregnant and most doctors let alone airlines will allow her to travel. My thing is what if the visa comes during this time and she can’t travel before having the baby?
We don’t want to have the baby in the Philippines just because I believe she will get better medical coverage through me and have access to better doctors. Plus the fact that having it over there causes a little more issues with the baby being considered a US citizen. I spoke to an immigration attorney here and she said it’s not a problem with the baby being a citizen just that it may take a few extra months to get it taken care of. I’m not so worried about the citizenship but more about the travel and having the baby over there.
Has this ever happened to anyone and do you have any information on what options I have. I know the USCIS doesn’t give extensions on the fiance’ visas. Would I qualify to file an “Accelerated Processing” request?
Thanks,
Ol Timer
... do you have any information on what options I have. I know the USCIS doesn’t give extensions on the fiance’ visas. Would I qualify to file an “Accelerated Processing” request?
Thanks,
Ol Timer
Hi Ol Timer,
I don't have direct knowledge of the US system.
In answer to your question, yes it happens all the time - you guys never heard of the oral contraceptive pill or what?? Pinays hate taking OCP but if a girl is serious she will take it, at least during periods when its 'inconvenient' to be pregnant.
With most countries immigration departments you are SWOL. You must wait now for nature to take its course. Think about it from their perspective.. you are not married, she's just another face in the crowd at present.
The only other option is a little visit to the church in Quaipo to see the shangi shangi about some cytotec pils, but it may be way too late for that already...
If you have money to support your future wife (you do don't you?) then you can purchase very good health care for her in the Phils since its too late to get her to your own country now. What's wrong with marrying her in the Phils? Then go for a visa to your home country? Why not live with her in the Phils for a year & find out if you are not making a mistake?
All the best to you both & Let us know how things go in nine months...
Amavida
We don’t want to have the baby in the Philippines just because I believe she will get better medical coverage through me and have access to better doctors.
Thanks,
Ol Timer
Actually you are correct about better health facilities in the US, but there are some pretty good ones in Manila also and believe me, with as many babies there are delivered in RP, they have it down pat.
Can't comment on the accelerated visa application.
ES
I know you only get 90 days once the visa is approved to bring her to the US and marry her.
Hello Ol Timer,
Sorry but you don't have your figures straight. You have 90 days to marry her once she arrives in the US. But she has something like six or more months to travel to the US, I'm not sure on the exact number.
Towelboy2010
03-02-08, 17:09
Here is the exact timing from my application last year.
April 23 - Visa app received by USCIS in Vermont.
August 31 - Approval notice received by me.
October 30 - Medical exam in Manila
November 9 - Interview in Manila
The VISA is good for 4 months prior to entry to the US.
Michelle backed out before the interviews in Manila so that is all the useful information I can supply.
Good Luck, Bob
Hello Ol Timer,
Sorry but you don't have your figures straight. You have 90 days to marry her once she arrives in the US. But she has something like six or more months to travel to the US, I'm not sure on the exact number.
I know of a similar situation to yours, just a bit further along. Some girl I met through her friend I dated got pregnant by her American fiance. When I think back on the timing, I'm sure this happened after they started the K1 application. To make a long story short, she was granted her visa during the last month of her pregnancy so she had her baby in Manila almost a month ago. I thought she had 6 months to enter the US following the visa grant date, but towelboy is saying 4 months. Guess you will have to check that out. Having her baby in a Manila hospital is not that bad, you should be willing to chip in a few bucks to make it a good stay.
Since application accelerations are not possible (the couple looked into this too), they resigned themselves to her having the baby in Manila. So since your girl is now almost 2 months along, I suggest you not bellyache about the slowness anymore. Due to the 4 or 6 months time to enter and the need to take care of the baby's paperwork, it's best if she doesn't get her visa until the last few months of her pregnancy at the earliest. You might also research the subject of K1 visa extensions just in case she needs more time.
So now this couple need a passport for their baby before she could bring him with her to the US. This is different from a K2 visa for dependent children because the baby is his so the baby is already eligible for US citizenship. The fiance has to claim the US citizenship for their baby; she cannot do this. For this part, he did not have to go to Manila, he was able to stay home and send her the signed passport application for her to present with herself and her baby at the US Embassy in Manila. I don't know how that worked or what documents were needed. It is supposed to take about a month to get the passport. The 90 days come into play once she arrives in the US.
About the age of the baby when flying to the US, this girl told me that Philippine Airlines will allow babies to fly if they're at least 16 days old. I think that is pretty young as I have been told that some airlines require babies to be at least 4 months old. Anyway, that gets her and the baby to LAX or SFO, then you will have to check with the US domestic airlines if they need to get on another airplane to fly to your home city.
I know Philippine Airlines is often more expensive, but if you have her fly by herself with the baby, then you really want the non-stop service from MNL to LAX or SFO as babies don't travel that well to begin with so don't make her change planes in a strange airport while she has to manage her baby and her carry-ons on her own.
Jackson, this discussion really falls under General Info. Perhaps you could move these posts there.
Ok fella’s, I got a little dilemmna on my hands here. I have been seeing a Filipina for over 3 years and last October '07 filed papers for a fiance’ visa. Since the fees have changed here in the US, the cost is more than doubled as of July ’07 and have thus caused a backlog in processing. As of this month, they are only up to July ’07 in complete applications. Ol Timer
I really hope everything works out for you and your intended. I married a cute little Pinay from Q-City in July 1987. Best move I ever made. She is sweet, loyal, passionate, stubborn and argumentative but I would not change a thing about her.
Filipinas can be the best, and yours sounds like a winner.
Here's hoping your life turns out well.
Slim
1. Hotel Options - I will be in Philippines for 5 nights arriving on a W at 11pm and returning early the following Monday morning. I am considering stay W-F at the Hyatt in Malate and then ST-SN at the Marriott Renaissance in Makati. Would appreciate input on whether this is a good plan or if better to just stay at one hotel. It hard to tell on maps how far apart Malate and Makati are. I was thinking the Hyatt since it has a pool and the other doesn't appear to have one.
2. Arriving at 11pm - By the time I get baggage, taxi to hotel (what should cost be?) will I have time to go out on W night? If so, what is the best option/venue?
3. Nightlife Location/Cost Factors - Reading the reports it seems like Makati is more high end than Malate so I am wondering what the current pricing structure is for say 4 beers and a beatiful woman till morning. It seems that some bars require that the bar be paid to take out a girl, is it doable to just get there number and have them come over the following afternoon? Also, is the quality of the women that different between these two locations?
4. Daytime Activities - Some of the reports refer to the possibility of going to the malls and meeting girls during the day for afternoon fun? Does this really happen and if so what are the best locations to explore?
5. Daytime Activities/"Must See" Attractions - are there any sites that should not be missed, ie, Manila Zoo, Bayfront, Macapagal Palace?
Towelboy2010
03-04-08, 04:44
I THINK THIS GOT LOST IN THE DEBATE OVER OL TIMERS I-129f.
Back in 2003 I made my first ever trip to Manila. I read the the WSG that the Filling Station in Burgos was a good place to meet women after the bars closed around 3am. I was on Burgos for 1 night in 2003. I walked into the Filling Station just to check it out, but I was occupied the whole night by the 2 girls i picked up, plus a 3rd that was with me for a few days.
I have read nothing in this form regarding the Filling Station.
Is it still there?
Is it a good place to go later in the evening?
Thanks, Bob
I THINK THIS GOT LOST IN THE DEBATE OVER OL TIMERS I-129f.
Back in 2003 I made my first ever trip to Manila. I read the the WSG that the Filling Station in Burgos was a good place to meet women after the bars closed around 3am. I was on Burgos for 1 night in 2003. I walked into the Filling Station just to check it out, but I was occupied the whole night by the 2 girls i picked up, plus a 3rd that was with me for a few days.
I have read nothing in this form regarding the Filling Station.
Is it still there?
Is it a good place to go later in the evening?
Thanks, Bob
Hi TB, this was answered already recently.
Just do a thread search for 'filling station'.
Happy Filling
Amavida
FreebieFan
03-05-08, 00:37
Someone earlier wrote about some must see places. Well Manila zoo is sadly not one of those. Maybe one of worst zoos in Asia unfortunately. Old dark decrepit and thats only the animals.
Soapy Smith
03-05-08, 07:03
1. Hotel Options - I will be in Philippines for 5 nights arriving on a W at 11pm and returning early the following Monday morning. I am considering stay W-F at the Hyatt in Malate and then ST-SN at the Marriott Renaissance in Makati. Would appreciate input on whether this is a good plan or if better to just stay at one hotel. It hard to tell on maps how far apart Malate and Makati are. I was thinking the Hyatt since it has a pool and the other doesn't appear to have one.Depending on traffic the taxi ride from Malate to Makati will be 20 to 30 minutes.
2. Arriving at 11pm - By the time I get baggage, taxi to hotel (what should cost be?) will I have time to go out on W night? If so, what is the best option/venue?EDSA is probably still open. LA Cafe is open 24 hours, though numbers and quality of freelancers is a fluid equation. Usually between midnight and 2 thee will still be some passable possibilities.
3. Nightlife Location/Cost Factors - Reading the reports it seems like Makati is more high end than Malate so I am wondering what the current pricing structure is for say 4 beers and a beatiful woman till morning. It seems that some bars require that the bar be paid to take out a girl, is it doable to just get there number and have them come over the following afternoon? Also, is the quality of the women that different between these two locations?
4. Daytime Activities - Some of the reports refer to the possibility of going to the malls and meeting girls during the day for afternoon fun? Does this really happen and if so what are the best locations to explore?Two such malls in the Ermita and Malate area: Robinson's Place and Harrison Plaza. In Makati some claim to score with freelancers hanging out at Havana Cafe and at the escalator nearby; I believe it's in Greenbelt Mall on the Second floor.
5. Daytime Activities/"Must See" Attractions - are there any sites that should not be missed, ie, Manila Zoo, Bayfront, Macapagal Palace?As somebody already said, forget the zoo. Other possibilities:
Chinese and Japanese gardens and, even better, the orchiderium along the North and Northeast part of Rizal Park. Rizal Park is just North of Ermita. You could walk here; it's a good 10-15 minute walk from the Hyatt. Small admission fees.
Cultural Center of the Philippines, if you like historical and anthropological kinds of things. Take a taxi. South on Roxas Blvd. from Ermita until the bay is no longer right along Roxas, then take the first right (at Pablo Ocampo). It's the first building on the left. Small admission fee.
Intramuros. This is the old walled city that the Spanish settlers established; between Rizal Park and the Pasig River. Mostly it's been restored to look like colonial Spanish buildings, but everything was bombed out by us or the Japanese during WWII, except for the San Augustin Church. But the walls around the neighborhood are still standing. You can walk here if you continue on across the middle of Rizal Park. You could also taxi. There's supposed to be some good restaurants in the area, but most are only open at night.
A great place to buy native craft souvenirs is under the Quezon Blvd. bridge over the Pasig River, on the North side. This area is called Quiapo. Be on your toes. I never had a problem here, but this is not the most savory neighborhood. There's a very famous church just north of the bridge that is home to some famous little statue they worship called the Black Nazarene. The church is Quiapo Church. In the area from the church back south down to the river, especially under the bridge, is where the craft dealers are. Don't ever take the first price. Always bargain, then shake your head and start walking away. You may then get their best offer. Maybe. Or just keep walking and come back later after comparing prices elsewhere. Other vendors who don't have stalls will follow you around trying to sell you pearl jewelry and other small stuff, but their prices will come down too the longer they follow you around. Walk into a shop that's selling the same stuff the camp follower is offering, and watch both their prices suddenly get lower. Bottom line, you can come away with some fascinating handmade stuff here for bargain prices. You could go here by taxi, although the streets tend to get congested during the day and some taxi drivers don't want to drive into the congestion. You can also ride the light rail #1. Go out the Pedro Gil side of the Hyatt, turn right, walk about seven blocks to Taft. Across Taft and up a hundred feet to the right is the entrance to the LRT. Ride North to the third station, Carriedo. It'll cost a grand total of about 12 pesos. You come down out of the station into a pedestrian mall and lots of shops. Keep track of the turns you make coming down out of the overhead station so you don't lose your sense of North and South. Go East a couple blocks and you'll see the Quiapo Church. Go around the Church and you'll see the big highway starting to rise up to the bridge. This is Quezon Blvd. Turn right and start looking under the bridge for shops. You'll know you're out of the craft shops when you find shops selling fish, chicken, smelly pig carcasses, and vegetables. Hey, this is more detail than you get from a Lonely Planet guide, and it's free.
By the way, get yourself a Metro Manila Citiatlas at National Bookstore in Robinson's Place Mall. Turn right on Pedro Gil outside the Hyatt, go 2 1/2 blocks. National Bookstore is in the wing facing right out on Pedro Gil. It's a little 5 by 8 book of 190 pages that costs less than $4. Well worth its cost.
Enjoy,
Skip
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Fifty Fifty
03-06-08, 09:07
Hi Folks, just back from a 15 day shagfest of the Phils and would like to offer the following series of reports:
My mate and I planned a break to the Phils, he wanted to stay in Makati as he was meeting a couple of Dubai WGs there. He must be nuts, Coals to Newcastle and all that, I couldn’t understand why he wanted to go to Phils to see 2 old Dubai girls but that was his plan and basically I just went along for the fun.
Spent a bit of time reading the Forum Reports and thanks to my old friend and Senior Member Wicked Roger I reckoned I was armed with an excellent set of Do’s N Don’t’s notes for my first visit to the Philippines.
We booked into Best Western Astor near to Burgos and at $60 per night it proved to be a good deal all round. Older Hotel but excellent service and of course totally GF.
I arrived one day earlier than my wingman and after a short kip I ventured out onto Burgos intending to do a recce of the area and maybe not bother with anything that night.
Having acquired a ‘Mongering PI Sim Card’ (65 pesos) around 11 pm I set off to view the bars in the area, noting that even for a Monday night things seemed very busy.
Walking up Burgos is a game of Dodge the Viagra Vendor, brush aside the Beggars, avoid the cruising Ladyboys (well I do, but some don’t) and saying no to the Massage Girls whilst trying not to get sucked into every bar as the Doormen stand in your way just to get you inside. The whole thing is a commercial exercise and everyone is your friend of course!! I did note several ex-pats walking in the opposite direction all armed with various grades of Philly they had met or barfined, now off to the hotel for some favour, saw some nice girls too.
I had a first beer in Flamingos – Very Nice looking girls, pushy place, expensive Drinks - SMP 135 and Ladydrink at 350. No problem with trying before buying the goods either, I found out that the 2 girls sitting with me were both shaven, even before I had had a second swig of my beer!!
I had planned a recce so I left to continue. I found the standards of girls and associated prices (drinks and Barfines) to be on a similar par up the entire strip, not surprising seeing as it is claimed only 3 guys own all bars here and operate a price fix together. It would appear that barfines are fixed at 3500 with 1000 to the girl, another rip off if you ask me. I did hear that Rogues is cheaper, but YMMV.
Had a solo beer in Bottoms, Billboard, Blush and ended up in Ringside that night. Nice atmosphere and 80s music in Ringside and some nice fresh sort of girls amongst some old dogs too. Got chatting to the MC re the girls boxing etc and managed to pass my newly acquired phone number to a very fit 19 yr old girl called Lauren, having bought her only the one Ladydrink. I noted that even with me being tight with the beer and Ladydrinks, this was becoming an expensive recce.
At around 3 I went to Matrix and ordered coffee, then sat watching the procession still going on up and down the street.
Shortly after 4 am the place is suddenly awash with good looking girls as the bars close and they all go home, most walking down the street in the hope of a final pick up. Five minutes later I get an SMS from Ringside girl Lauren, ‘’Where are you’’
I reply explaining I am at Matrix and offer her a drink.
She replies that she can’t go there, and then asks if I want a girl and am I alone.
I reply yes so she says she will meet me at my hotel (like most girls she had already ascertained where I was staying during the 1st few minutes of our ‘’in bar’’ convo).
I confirm the Hotel with her and pay my bill, walking briskly back to BW Astor, less than 5 mins away.
A few moments later she walks up to the Lobby, wearing the standard Jeans/Tshirt most PI girls seem to favour. Having seen her in her Bar Attire of tiny boxing shorts and bra top, I am a little disappointed but know that the clothes actually hide a pretty good body.
The Hotel staff don’t even blink as we make our way to the elevators, it would appear no security checks are made at all.
In the Elevator I broach the subject of money and she says ‘’its up to you, I don’t mind cos you are a nice man’’
It was now around 4.20 am so I offered her 2000 pesos to stay till 10 am and she instantly agrees, no questions asked. BTW no Menu was discussed, I was feeling somewhat tired from travelling, so a straightforward shag would do.
In room, Lauren asked if she could use bathroom and showered, returning wearing only a towel. Then she asked for a drink from mini bar, I said take what you want, but apparently she wasn’t used to expensive drinks (except the fake tequila in the bar ha ha), settling for an Iced Tea. I followed in the shower and came out to find her already in bed, naked. No formalities, start off with standard DATY (no work for the Barber either, smooth as….) followed by a pretty good BBBJ then straight into Cowgirl, she was keen to please and she sure did.
We fell asleep and had a second round at 9 ish just before she went home. I couldn’t be bothered to get dressed so I just paid her and she left.
I was surprised by a call from the front desk a few moments later, informing me that my visitor was leaving. I was intrigued as to how they knew she was with me, after all, the guy on the desk had never seen me before and no info whatsoever re room number or girl had been exchanged when we had both entered the hotel???
So my first night in Makati was pretty good and I considered myself armed with plenty of info for when my wingman arrived later in the day.
Continued……
Cheers Fifty Fifty
Fifty Fifty
03-06-08, 09:16
Old dark decrepit and thats only the animals.
Sounds similar some of the Burgos Bars these days, only much more expensive of course.
Cheers, Fifty Fifty
Hi Folks, just back from a 15 day shagfest of the Phils and would like to offer the following series of reports:
My mate and I planned a break to the Phils, he wanted to stay in Makati as he was meeting a couple of Dubai WGs there. He must be nuts, Coals to Newcastle and all that, I couldn’t understand why he wanted to go to Phils to see 2 old Dubai girls but that was his plan and basically I just went along for the fun.
Spent a bit of time reading the Forum Reports and thanks to my old friend and Senior Member Wicked Roger I reckoned I was armed with an excellent set of Do’s N Don’t’s notes for my first visit to the Philippines.
We booked into Best Western Astor near to Burgos and at $60 per night it proved to be a good deal all round. Older Hotel but excellent service and of course totally GF.
I arrived one day earlier than my wingman and after a short kip I ventured out onto Burgos intending to do a recce of the area and maybe not bother with anything that night.
Having acquired a ‘Mongering PI Sim Card’ (65 pesos) around 11 pm I set off to view the bars in the area, noting that even for a Monday night things seemed very busy.
Walking up Burgos is a game of Dodge the Viagra Vendor, brush aside the Beggars, avoid the cruising Ladyboys (well I do, but some don’t) and saying no to the Massage Girls whilst trying not to get sucked into every bar as the Doormen stand in your way just to get you inside. The whole thing is a commercial exercise and everyone is your friend of course!! I did note several ex-pats walking in the opposite direction all armed with various grades of Philly they had met or barfined, now off to the hotel for some favour, saw some nice girls too.
I had a first beer in Flamingos – Very Nice looking girls, pushy place, expensive Drinks - SMP 135 and Ladydrink at 350. No problem with trying before buying the goods either, I found out that the 2 girls sitting with me were both shaven, even before I had had a second swig of my beer!!
I had planned a recce so I left to continue. I found the standards of girls and associated prices (drinks and Barfines) to be on a similar par up the entire strip, not surprising seeing as it is claimed only 3 guys own all bars here and operate a price fix together. It would appear that barfines are fixed at 3500 with 1000 to the girl, another rip off if you ask me. I did hear that Rogues is cheaper, but YMMV.
Had a solo beer in Bottoms, Billboard, Blush and ended up in Ringside that night. Nice atmosphere and 80s music in Ringside and some nice fresh sort of girls amongst some old dogs too. Got chatting to the MC re the girls boxing etc and managed to pass my newly acquired phone number to a very fit 19 yr old girl called Lauren, having bought her only the one Ladydrink. I noted that even with me being tight with the beer and Ladydrinks, this was becoming an expensive recce.
At around 3 I went to Matrix and ordered coffee, then sat watching the procession still going on up and down the street.
Shortly after 4 am the place is suddenly awash with good looking girls as the bars close and they all go home, most walking down the street in the hope of a final pick up. Five minutes later I get an SMS from Ringside girl Lauren, ‘’Where are you’’
I reply explaining I am at Matrix and offer her a drink.
She replies that she can’t go there, and then asks if I want a girl and am I alone.
I reply yes so she says she will meet me at my hotel (like most girls she had already ascertained where I was staying during the 1st few minutes of our ‘’in bar’’ convo).
I confirm the Hotel with her and pay my bill, walking briskly back to BW Astor, less than 5 mins away.
A few moments later she walks up to the Lobby, wearing the standard Jeans/Tshirt most PI girls seem to favour. Having seen her in her Bar Attire of tiny boxing shorts and bra top, I am a little disappointed but know that the clothes actually hide a pretty good body.
The Hotel staff don’t even blink as we make our way to the elevators, it would appear no security checks are made at all.
In the Elevator I broach the subject of money and she says ‘’its up to you, I don’t mind cos you are a nice man’’
It was now around 4.20 am so I offered her 2000 pesos to stay till 10 am and she instantly agrees, no questions asked. BTW no Menu was discussed, I was feeling somewhat tired from travelling, so a straightforward shag would do.
In room, Lauren asked if she could use bathroom and showered, returning wearing only a towel. Then she asked for a drink from mini bar, I said take what you want, but apparently she wasn’t used to expensive drinks (except the fake tequila in the bar ha ha), settling for an Iced Tea. I followed in the shower and came out to find her already in bed, naked. No formalities, start off with standard DATY (no work for the Barber either, smooth as….) followed by a pretty good BBBJ then straight into Cowgirl, she was keen to please and she sure did.
We fell asleep and had a second round at 9 ish just before she went home. I couldn’t be bothered to get dressed so I just paid her and she left.
I was surprised by a call from the front desk a few moments later, informing me that my visitor was leaving. I was intrigued as to how they knew she was with me, after all, the guy on the desk had never seen me before and no info whatsoever re room number or girl had been exchanged when we had both entered the hotel???
So my first night in Makati was pretty good and I considered myself armed with plenty of info for when my wingman arrived later in the day.
Continued……
Cheers Fifty Fifty
hi,
thanks for your gud info/report on Burgos..Have you been to EDSa also?? to compare gurls in the looks department with Burgos?? My question is, more hotties in Burgos? I m also thnkin to have a late afternoon drinkin and barhop session in Burgos, collecting cpnumbers and then meet the gurls after work or whenever they feel in need to earn a bit money. I live on site in 2 weeks again and will collect cp numbers, Im not willlng to pay those huge barfines and fantasy tips. if they gurl is reasonble 2k is ok. Have you met the gurl again?? That would indicate to me if she was really worth and you would meet her again, or in otr words, would you meet her again? Did she txt you again?
I went to Burgos 2 years ago, fresh from the plane. txt my contacts to meet up in filling station laters,went barhop, met my friends, went barhop with them, then back filling station, totally drunk but could still manage to talk (LOL) brought my freidns to the cab and let them leaveand went on barhop again, spend one or 2 lady drinks in I think bandidots to a gurl I found real hot, gother cp number and she told me to meet me after closng time.I went home and sleep tight, next monring woke up and saw on my fone she miscall me and txt me whole night---keeep on txtin me the next 2 weeks lol,but I was allready on my way to AC, much cheaper, more quiet and more value for money, also in things of food and accomondation.
Let us know what you think gurls in Burgos compared to the Edsa gurls.
Happy day and thanks for the good info!!
Blink
Good report.
She looked at your room number when she left b/c they all have to call upstairs to get permission to let her go. I list the Astor for just the reasons you say.
The Astor stinks in one way b/c you have to leave your key there to have the TV/aircon work. You can't leave you squeze in your room while you dash off for a business meeting or call stateside. I made a lot of midnight-2 Am calls on VOIP lines from my office so it is hard to leava girl waiting for you.
I stayed at a place on Dela Rosa and the guys in the staff were almost high fiving me when I walked in with a hot girl on each arm.
And for love of **** stop paying 2000 for something that is 1000. She had no other options at 4 AM. You or make no $$. I'll pay them more if I like them but sometimes they are a dud and you regret even the 1000 you pay them. 2000 is 50 USD and an average sales/office girl makes 200 USD.
Please my friends.- hold the line at 1000. It's all we can do to keep costs down.- please vote for me at next week's presidential primary.
I was surprised by a call from the front desk a few moments later, informing me that my visitor was leaving. I was intrigued as to how they knew she was with me, after all, the guy on the desk had never seen me before and no info whatsoever re room number or girl had been exchanged when we had both entered the hotel???
So my first night in Makati was pretty good and I considered myself armed with plenty of info for when my wingman arrived later in the day.
Continued……
Cheers Fifty Fifty
Fifty Fifty
03-06-08, 13:17
After my first night success I got up late next day and spent afternoon browsing Glorietta Mall and Greenbelt Areas. Lots of talent on view and a few nice “Hello Sirs’’ to be had. Greenbelt is good for sitting and watching and Havana Café is definitely a reasonable pick-up joint, but maybe only for local girls where they are looking for more long term commitment than your average Mongerer is prepared to offer. Definitely worth a try though, so many girls all over the place, luck has got to prevail at some stage.
The girl from last night sent me a few SMS but I decided to ignore her and try my luck elsewhere, there are just so many girls available it isn’t worth getting locked into the same one, unless she is really something special.
My Wingman arrived later on that evening and armed with his new mobile number, we set about bar hopping in Burgos so that as another Newbie, he could get a feel of what I had already experienced the night before.
We were prime targets in most bars and basically drunk beer, entertained plenty of ladydrinks and had a good old feel of the goods everywhere we went, passing fone numbers wherever we could. Standards and prices were pretty much the same in all bars, a few good looking and fairly fit 18-20 yr olds with supporting cast of ‘used goods’ in the form of the older brigade. Some were very pushy on the drinks etc, but most of them respected the ''we were just looking for our first time'' story. We tried to do as many bars as possible that night, with no intention of taking anything as I had already explained to my mate the pass the number and then ‘sit in Matrix at 4am deal’. We were also in the beer and not the pussy mood as he had plans to meet his girls next day.
We went further up the street as far as Joules/Davino Bar which was described as an Exclusive Gentleman’s Club. It is certainly the best looking place, superbly fitted out, nice music with an excellent standard of girls. Actually it is a total RIP OFF with beers at PHP 250 and ladydrinks at 750 for a single Baileys !!! There are no barfines possible either, but the girls are very keen to pass fone numbers and do sneak-outs on the side, basically cos there are hardly any customers and those who do go in, like us they find out the price and only stay for one drink. A great place if you want to sit and throw lots of money away, otherwise, give it a miss.
Now fairly drunk we stopped in at Fridays at around 3 am, on our way back. There we found superb girls, most of them seemed drunk and up for some fun. With prices back to near reality we entertained 2 good lookers, I chose a really skinny one (38Kg 19 yrs old) with big tits she was keen to show off. I actually ended up wearing her bikini at one stage while she sat next to me ‘’open legged( pussied)’’ They were all really nice and great fun, but we decided we were too drunk to do anything worth a barfine, but promised to return next day. (I did get to do ‘Big Tits’ later on, but that’s another story, with lots of pics too!!)
Back at Matrix, sitting outside for a 4 am Burger and Coffee we observed the migration as all the bars closed and girls appeared from all over. I got another SMS from last nights girl, but ignored her as I was a bit busy chatting with a few passing lookers. Being fairly drunk we passed all offers and went home as good boys.
Continued……
Cheers F/Fifty
PS
Blink157, thanks for the positive remarks, but please dont quote my whole report in your reply. My stories may be boring for some members and to have them posted twice is possibly too much for some.
World Guy Sh
03-06-08, 14:40
It would appear that barfines are fixed at 3500 with 1000 to the girlWild West Group (So Wild West on Makatoi, Flamingo's, Banditos and forget the last) is 2200 minus up to two lady drinks (350 each if I recall) and whatever you negotiate with the girl.
Fridays - that was 3500 plus 3000. But it was pretty wild in their. And no real discount for the lady drinks bought.
WGS
Fifty Fifty
03-07-08, 06:02
Good report.
She looked at your room number when she left b/c they all have to call upstairs to get permission to let her go. I list the Astor for just the reasons you say.
Ah ok, understood now, thanks. The hotel was very accommodating and the staff were smiling when I was seen with 3 different girls in one day, but thats another story.
The Astor stinks in one way b/c you have to leave your key there to have the TV/aircon work. You can't leave you squeze in your room while you dash off for a business meeting or call stateside. I made a lot of midnight-2 Am calls on VOIP lines from my office so it is hard to leava girl waiting for you.
That is easy fixed, any business card cut to fit will slot into the Room Key switch and keep the TV/Aircon etc operating while you are out.
You can leave your girl in room and go out with the key, you are then free to return any time, but she cant leave cos she cant get back in !!
I'll pay them more if I like them
Exactly - She was a babe and I liked her, ok???
Cheers, F/Fifty
Fifty Fifty
03-07-08, 06:13
Wild West Group (So Wild West on Makatoi, Flamingo's, Banditos and forget the last) is 2200 minus up to two lady drinks (350 each if I recall) and whatever you negotiate with the girl.
Fridays - that was 3500 plus 3000. But it was pretty wild in their. And no real discount for the lady drinks bought. WGS
Yes agreed, Wild West Group was cheaper, but YMMV, didnt see a decent girl worth a Barfine in any of them !!
Tried to use the Barfine, minus lady drinks rule in all of the other bars, but it was generally not acceptable. Did negotiate discount in Ringside, but only after a few visits and having spent a fair bit one night.
Drink prices are fixed at 150 for a beer and 350 for a Ladydrink, just about all bars same. Except RIP OFF Joules Bar of course !! (250 & 750)
We saved the barfines by exchanging mobile numbers and waiting to see what happened after the shift over at 4 am. Interesting thing was, if you asked a mamasan what time the bar closed she would say 6 am, but the girls were all out by 4 if the place was quiet.
Whatever you pay or do the whole Burgos thing is a rip off compared with elsewhere. Cebu so much cheaper with drinks at 50 & 150 average and Barfines 2000 max with no more to pay the girl unless you are generous.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Does not work! I tried that too even mimicing the holes in the key. There is some kind of RF or magnetic signature in the key. As an engineer this intrigued me but then there was usually a hotty in the bed so I quickly lost my desire to reverse engineer the key system.
Ah ok, understood now, thanks. The hotel was very That is easy fixed, any business card cut to fit will slot into the Room Key switch and keep the TV/Aircon etc operating while you are out.
You can leave your girl in room and go out with the key, you are then free to return any time, but she cant leave cos she cant get back in!
Fifty Fifty
03-07-08, 08:15
Being fairly drunk we passed all offers and went home as good boys.
Actually we were not that good after all.
Prior to travelling to Phils, my mate WR had given me the details of a reliable girl he knew who was keen to explore the business of providing decent girls to visiting ex-pats. I had contacted her and exchanged several SMS whilst sitting at Matrix earlier. I told my Wingman all about it and as we walked back to the Hotel, now more sober after coffee etc; we decided to see what was on offer, thinking it was too late at nearly 5 am.
We were wrong, she was keen to supply and soon 2 girls were in a taxi on the way to meet us at the hotel. I had indicated to the provider my preference of girl as 18-21, slim and sexy and I was pleased to say, that is exactly what I got. My Wingman was also surprised at the excellent quality of the 2 girls who arrived, no prices were discussed, and we were just asked by the provider to give them whatever we wanted to give.
So it was off to the room with my babe, who turned out to be, beautiful, shy and very accommodating in almost every way. At just 18 (checked) she was very young looking, a real amateur, but keen to please and she certainly did that. She stripped, showered and shaved (no she wasn’t going to let the barber do it !) and then waited patiently as I did the same. Ten minutes later it was time for fun, excellent BBBJ, DATY and a good tight little pussy, one of the best ever. She was responsive, loving and very very good in the sack.
Time limits were not discussed, but my Wingman kicked his girl out at lunchtime as he had an appointment with his Dubai friends.
My girl and I enjoyed ourselves later in the morning and eventually surfaced at about 2 pm. Having agreed with the provider, I decided to keep her for rest of the day. I took her to Glorietta and Greenbelt shopping and we enjoyed ourselves, relaxing at Starbucks and Havana Café for a few hours. It felt good to be walking round with such a nice good looking girl, yet she seemed shy, but quite comfortable too.
We returned to the hotel and had yet another round of fun, then she asked if she could go back home later that evening. Still no money had ever been discussed and when I asked how much she wanted, all she said is ‘’Up to you, I don’t know’’
Having had excellent sex and really good GFE for the whole day I offered her 2500 (as recommended by WR) which she gratefully accepted. We agreed to see each other soon and I told her I would call to her provider whenever I wanted her again.
I met my Wingman and one of his Dubai Girls at Royal Bellagio Hotel on Burgos around 9 pm and we sat outside, had some food and discussed the events of the day. He reckoned my girl had been much too young, as he preferred 25-30s but agreed that I had been very lucky to get a real good looker as usual. All the time the stream of street girls passing by kept us occupied, his girl didn’t mind and even encouraged us to comment on the quality of what we saw, some were dogs, but every few minutes there was a passing babe to keep us looking. Incidentally we also saw quite a few Lady Boys in action, but none with customers yet!!
His girl left and my Wingman and I decided to explore the bars once again. We visited Bronx, Mascara and a few others on the way up the hill to Ringside for a revisit. Same old story in all of them, a few good lookers and some with baggage too, prices the same as well. In Ringside we entertained 2 good looking newbies Yvonne and Chin Chin, after a few drinks decided to barfine the pair of them. We discussed with the Mamasan and tried to deduct Lady drinks from Barfine of 3500, but it was no deal. After some persuasion she finally relented and reduced BF to 3000 each girl and all was agreed – NOT !! It turned out that it was wrong time of month for both girls and neither could play !!.
We were pissed off, so we left immediately and being suckers went to Fridays to get hold of the girls we had seen there the night before. My mate really wanted his one cos she looked like his cousin (Don’t ask ???) and I fancied Big Tits after her fun performance in the bar.
We were both disappointed, no sign of Big Tits, I was told it was her off day, but that was probably B/S as she was more than likely already barfined. My mate found his girl, Maui and having treated her to a couple of drinks he set about the barfine routine, only to find that she also said no go!!
Thoroughly pissed off, probably because we were being so picky, after all there are plenty of available girls, we went down the street for an early (1am) coffee and burger at Matrix to see a bit more of the parade.
We also had a good laugh when we saw two Brits at the table next to us being approached by a couple of pretty obvious Lady Boys, good looking ones though. They all sat together and had drinks, we presumed the guys both knew the score and wanted it that way. I almost pissed my self laughing when I later overheard one of the Brits asking the waitress for some advice. He said ‘’Excuse me, can you help here, is this a man I am sitting with?’’
Her reply of ‘’If you cant tell for yourself then you shouldn’t be here’’ was even more amusing !!
I would really liked to have stayed to see more, but I decided that the girl that had been sent the night before was pretty unbeatable and sent her provider an SMS enquiring availability.
Reply received, ‘’Yes she was waiting for me, did my friend want a girl too??
I asked my mate and he said ‘’Has she got one with big tits?’’
Reply received, ‘’Yes I have a girl 19 slim with big boobs, do you want both to come to hotel now?’’
No contest, we agreed, leaving the Brits with the Lady Boys, we went off to the Astor to await imminent arrival of the real girls. We were not disappointed, 20 mins later, the girls, both good lookers, arrived and had a drink in the hotel bar, then once again, we retired gracefully.
I had another excellent night with the babe and my mate called at 10 am to say he was sending his girl home, thanks for a good one. He was off to meet his Dubai Girls as it was the birthday of one, basically the whole point of his visit to Makati.
The plot thickens…..
Cheers, F/Fifty.
I've lived here in Makati for about 8 months now, and as you all know it's one of the best kept secrets in the world in terms of finding gorgeous, available women. I've figured out a lot of angles on getting girls here, but no doubt there is more to learn. One note. Don't ever pay a barfine on Burgos. It's not necessary and WAY too expensive. If you absolutely need to get laid this minute, EDSA is a better option. Or better yet LA Cafe. If you go there wait till after 9pm and go upstairs. Downstairs can be a little scary. LA Cafe shouldn't cost you more than P1500 or P2000 tops for the most gorgeous girl there (and there are some there, sometimes). I'll post more on that topic later.
So just how adventurous are you? If you can handle a little heat, I've got just the place for you to try and I've never seen it posted about here. It's a group of Filipino style girlie bars in the Cubao area of town. There are NO foreigners there and the area seems VERY shady, but I've never had any trouble, though I alway travel with a buddy.
Filipinos seem to like their girls white, with big tits. That's what you'll find there and many of them are drop-dead gorgeous. I'm not kidding, significantly better looking than even Burgos girls. And they get totally naked! If your idea of fun is having a totally naked, 20 year old girl with perfect tits (that she'll let you feel) sitting on your lap for the price of a 60 peso beer, then this just might be the place for you. No bullshit!
There are about half a dozen places spread over a couple of streets. They have a two drink minimum, but beers are only P60. If you go to all the bars, which I did, that's a lot of beer for about P700. I didn't actually drink all of it. Ladies drinks are only P190 and the girls are really beautiful. So a round for you and her (2 for you) costs less than a ladies drink in Burgos. (But watch the bill, they will try to fuck the foreigner.) There are 6-8 girls at each bar and they dance one at a time. If you are impatient, tell the mamasan and she'll have all of them come out for your inspection. They do 3 dances, the last one completely nude. If you fancy one of them, wait till she is in the nude dance and tell the mamasan to have her come over. She will stop her dancing immediately and come over and sit on your lap naked if that's what you want. You'll need to buy her a ladies drink at that point. If you want to fuck her, you have to do it there in most of the places. The room costs P1500 and the girls fee about the same. It seemed too weird for me to do that there, but if you're horny enough it could be a go. Getting her number might work as well, but they sometimes live far.
To get there, from Makati tell the cabbie to get on EDSA and head towards Quezon. Turn right on the Cubao/Arnato exit and go about a mile. (Take the MRT rail if you want more of an adventure.) Look for some well lit clubs on some side streets on the left. They have names like "Cheap In" and "HotStuff". Walk around with the Cubao street (an overhead rail over the street) as your base to find the other clubs. They are all within several hundred meters of each other.
I thought it was a blast and the girls were the best looking bar girls I've seen in the Philippines. One note, if you are in a comparitively nice looking bar, and you notice there are NO female waitresses, you just might be the all nude ladyboy bar, LOL. If you walk in during a show, you'll probably figure that out right away.
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Hi Pthallo, thanks for the walk on the wild side :)
They have a two drink minimum, but beers are only P60.
Im just doing the math ok? 120php so far
Ladies drinks are only P190 and the girls are really beautiful. So a round for you and her (2 for you) costs less than a ladies drink in Burgos. (But watch the bill, they will try to fuck the foreigner.)
plus 190ph ... thats 310php
If you want to fuck her, you have to do it there in most of the places. The room costs P1500 and the girls fee about the same.
plus 1500 ...
plus 1500 ...
thats 3310php minimum for a short time in a hot dirty room in a dodgy neighborhood.
Um did I get this right or did I miss something?
Im quite certain the locals are not paying that. ;)
Better value for money to post an ad on a dating web site & state that you are in Manila or just go walk around a Robinsons at 4pm.
Adventurous Mongering
Amavida
Hi Amavida.
I never said I went to Cubao to get laid, just for laughs. The price I mentioned for the girl was what they quoted me, the foreigner, so I have no doubt it can be negotiated down significantly. Probabably to about P2000 for the girl and room. And you are right, the rooms did look dodgy to me, that's why I refrained. Some of the places, and the neighborhood, are also dodgy. But that's part of the adventure. The juxtaposition of these pretty crappy looking clubs with extremely beautiful girls (some of them) was what blew me away. It's just an extension of where these girls live. I've had a chance to see where some of the girls I've had live, and it's mind-blowing for a westerner to see how even the best looking girl you've ever seen can live in such poverty. In terms of cost, these are the cheapest places going, especially if you don't intend to barfine, which I didn't. I guarantee you won't be disappointed with the quality of the girls.
On another note, I rarely if ever pay a barfine anymore. You just don't need to if you've lived here a while and know how to get the free stuff. I used to think the bargirls were better looking than regular girls, but I've changed that way of thinking. The best looking girls I've had (in my whole life) have been gotten from clubs, such as Cafe Havana in Greenbelt, and from the Internet. In many cases you can get laid the same night, but definitely by the second night in most cases. You will pay nothing for this except for their taxi and their drinks if you go out. That is until they know you a little bit, then almost all will hit you up for money for a sick relative or whatever. Nothing is really free here, but it is comparatively cheap. They still cost way less than dating an American girl would. I'd recommend the "free" girls because they can be higher quality in looks and personality. Many of them work at a real job or are students at college and can carry a reasonably intelligent conversation. I have about 4 or 5 of these right now and manage it by only seeing them once a week. This keeps the relationship talk to a minimum. I've done all the other ways of getting bargirls, etc. (and still occasionally go to LA Cafe) but that's the mode I'm in now. I still go to Burgos or EDSA for happy hour and some laughs with my friends, but don't need it for sex.
If you ever get the opportunity to live in Manila, I'd HIGHLY recommend it. The women are sometimes so beautiful it hurts, and much sweeter and nicer than American girls too. For instance, I'll often text one (rarely bother calling) and tell her to come over and cook for me. I get a home-cooked meal and sex with a hot 22 year old delivered right to my door without me ever leaving. Believe me, it's hard to beat that! Filipino food usually sucks out at a restaraunt, but home-cooked it can be very good. Especially the dessert.
FreebieFan
03-08-08, 04:03
Simple answer to this is. (and yes there are slots at the bottom of the key card instertion device that are sometimes not activated by a busness card) always keep any old hotel key card with you.
All key slots are pretty much same size as only two providers manufacture theese things.
Alternative of course is asking for two key cards when you arrive. One for you and one for slot.
Good financial analysis, Mr. Vida. But you commit the common error of comparing apples and oranges. Picking up fully dressed girls at the mall (or boys dressed as girls) is a whole different fruit from choosing among nude go-go dancers. I would be interested in learning of more realistic prices at the places described. And whether the dancers are available for takeout.
Hi Pthallo, thanks for the walk on the wild side :)
Im just doing the math ok? 120php so far
plus 190ph ... thats 310php
plus 1500 ...
plus 1500 ...
thats 3310php minimum for a short time in a hot dirty room in a dodgy neighborhood.
Um did I get this right or did I miss something?
Im quite certain the locals are not paying that. ;)
Better value for money to post an ad on a dating web site & state that you are in Manila or just go walk around a Robinsons at 4pm.
Adventurous Mongering
Amavida
Good financial analysis, Mr. Vida. But you commit the common error of comparing apples and oranges. Picking up fully dressed girls at the mall (or boys dressed as girls) is a whole different fruit from choosing among nude go-go dancers. I would be interested in learning of more realistic prices at the places described. And whether the dancers are available for takeout.
Ok first, a confession, i've been propositioned by girls in malls but never had the need to partake. Some mongers do judging by the posts.
Im an expat Aussie, often get asked if im asian (i guess because i have a trace of chinese ancestry) but would never pass for a local. True locals go to the casa's & pay about 10x less than these prices.
I don't use P4P much because living here about 6 months of the year means I have plenty of GF's & acquaintances to fill my bed. Im always interested to keep tabs on the scene though & offer what little I know. I don't touch street walkers or go any where near casa's!
As far as economics go pussy costs money one way or the other & I respect anybodies right to choose. Some mongers prefer an endless stream of quick emotionless pops others like more GFE.
GF's can get expensive at times & be very cheap other times. As far as value for money goes in P4P I'd recommend Angeles, Cebu, Davao in decreasing order of convenience & price. Manila prices are crazy but they cater to newbies on tight schedules & the wealthy.
Zamboanga is an untapped gold mine of cheap pussy but its a long way to go for most folks.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
GoodEnough
03-08-08, 08:14
Funny Amavida that you should mention Zamboanga. I was there for three days earlier this week, and was also there about two weeks before that. It's only about 45 minutes from Davao by air, and the round trip costs about $100. I stayed again at the Garden Orchid and, as usual, had a nice, large room with a very small TV. At my corporate rate, I paid Php1,800 a night and there's free wifi in the large lobby restaurant. There's no internet in the rooms.
I've written before about the night scene in Zambo and nothing's changed in that respect. There are no taxis at all in town, so be prepared to take tricycles anywhere you need to go for Php20 or so a ride. There are no great restaurants in town, but there are places to eat edible food. Perhaps the best restaurant in town (that I've found) is the Japanese restaurant on the lowest level of the Garden Orchid. I had sushi there on Monday night and it was fine.
There is a Gaisano Mall in town and it's relatively new and packed all the time, so it may be a happy hunting ground.
GE
Amavida!
I'll be looking forward to reading your trip reports of Davao, Zamboanga, and Tacloban.
X Man
GF's can get expensive at times & be very cheap other times. As far as value for money goes in P4P I'd recommend Angeles, Cebu, Davao in decreasing order of convenience & price. Manila prices are crazy but they cater to newbies on tight schedules & the wealthy.
Zamboanga is an untapped gold mine of cheap pussy but its a long way to go for most folks.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Hi Amavida.
I never said I went to Cubao to get laid, just for laughs. The price I mentioned for the girl was what they quoted me, the foreigner, so I have no doubt it can be negotiated down significantly.
Ok I understand that Pthalo & thanks for sharing your experience Pthalo.
On another note, I rarely if ever pay a barfine anymore. You just don't need to if you've lived here a while and know how to get the free stuff. I used to think the bargirls were better looking than regular girls, but I've changed that way of thinking.
Agreed.
If you ever get the opportunity to live in Manila, I'd HIGHLY recommend it.
I did have an apartment there but sold it & live elsewhere in the phils now.
Im in Manila on business often so I know what you mean.
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Amavida!
I'll be looking forward to reading your trip reports of Davao, Zamboanga, and Tacloban.
X Man
Hehehe
Hi X, been there done that no plans to repeat it for a while.
Since I can legitimately be in Manila on business, Manila & AC is my most convenient locations for play time.
Since #1 GF is going back to the province from Manila this week, I am planning to sneak up to AC for a week of naughtiness from the 27th. I had so much fun there last month I just can't help my self... :)
Im sure you would be bored hearing about AC for the millionth time eh X?
Happy Mongering
Amavida
Hi to all,
Pthalo, nice report. Its true you can find good looking gurls in those pinoy clubs in Cubao or Quezon City. I lived in quezon city before and had a regular GF from one of those clubs. Most of them came from the provinces, some are Bi if not to mention many are bi, some lesbian some straight. My exGF was bi :D...They live not much far from their workin places in terms of savin money for transportation, mostly in dorms..along aurora bloulevard etc...
I lived in Quezon city before (now starting to live again in Cubao/Pasig area) and after work its fun and drinkin, the only thing you have to worry is gettin enough sleep, not to worry about gettin enough sex LOL.
havent been to makati for a while, but now living here again I will sure give it a try, for beer and fun and collectin cp numbers. I would never ever pay those horrible barfines..Thats crazy..but I understand some guys pay that cause they just a few days there and have enough money to burn..or they just think they make a gud deal :D (compare to prices in US and Europe it still is but we in third world country..hello...helloo...)
If your cool and respect the gurls and funny to talk you dont pay much. If you stay in a nice place and can offer them some quality they surely will stay with you before and after work...for fun and more :D
I would lve to hear some mall-gurls-hunting reports, department store gurls etc..I had to relocate and now will live near a big mall in edsa (hint) and its my number one priority to offer bed and breakfast to them for the night. We germans are gentlemans...Ok serious, would love to read some report about those things. tactics and progress and experiences, like easy toget rid of them if you bored or any bad experiences like scams etc....
Also for the Quezon city thread, its kinda quiet there....(20 pages in 5 years)
So keep the good post coming!!
fifty fifty love reading your reports. Any pictures of the "escort for expat services" in terms of looks. So we get an idea..you can also PM me..Im descrete :D
Keep up the good posts!!!
Blink
Fifty Fifty
03-09-08, 12:11
The plot thickens…..
Later around 2 pm I met my Wingman at Matrix having a beer with his two Dubai girls, celebrating the birthday of his favourite one. We all sat eating cake and enjoying the never ending street show of passing girls.
My attention was drawn to a pair of good lookers passing by, one tiny and the other sporting an impressive rack. They stopped and showed the usual interest, so I called them over to join us at the table. The smaller one was keen, but her younger mate was hesitant at first, but eventually they came and sat down. We exchanged names and the smaller of the two, named ‘A’ suddenly said she recognized my Mate as her friend from a chat/dating site and had planned to meet him later in the week. We were all amazed at the coincidence, but cos my Wingman was already occupied with his two Dubai girls, the two Makati babes were somewhat confused.
I stepped into the rescue and began to chat the pair of them up, concentrating on the one with the big tits of course :) . It turned out the smaller one (A) was 26 yrs old and living with an older ex-pat, her friend (M) was just 18 and with her amazing rack, was the fun girl of the pair. My mate had already planned a Birthday Night celebration for his girls at a bar called Bedrock in Malate, so we invited the two Makati girls (A & M) along as well.
We all agreed to meet later in the evening and I went off for an arranged meet with another chatroom babe at Greenbelt for the afternoon. She is also barely 18, very fit and talkative, we enjoyed a pleasant stroll around the shops and cafes. It soon became pretty obvious I was going to have to marry her to get into her knickers as she kept mentioning the ‘’Virginity until I am with my husband’’ story. Nice girl, but a total waste of time for a mongerer. I offered for her to come back to the hotel with me, but she declined so I returned at 7 pm, alone. Time for some rest before our planned night out.
Later that night my Mate and I all met up with his 2 Dubai girls along with A & M and we all went off to Bedrock in Adriatico St in Malate. It turned out to be a superb night and as the area is full of bars, it was very busy too. There were tons of girls, lots of locals and everyone was having a great time. Bedrock Bar has 2 very good live bands most nights and is a cheap, good place to take local ladies as my Mate and I both found out. Both A & M stuck with me and I threw a seemingly impossible amount of Margheritas down their necks. We all (6 of us) had good food and loads of drinks from 11 pm until close at 4 am and total cost for all was 4009 pesos !!
Back towards the Hotel, A & M were still confused as to the status of my Mate and his Dubai girls, even though he kept saying they were ‘’just friends’’ ha ha. It was pretty obvious that A and her big titted friend M wanted to stay together so I decided to go for it and asked both back to my room. No problem, they were just waiting to be asked, lucky old 50:50 strikes again. This was followed by blank looks from my Mate as he called me a ‘Bastard’ as it seemed he was going to miss out, cos his girls were really just friends LOL.
In the room, it was soon fairly obvious that A & M were a well rehearsed Double Act, but they were playing coy, afer a bit of coaxing, it appeared that they were no strangers to the MFF routine and both keen to please. Although A was up for some fun, she was also going through a bit of a crisis as her 64 yr old ex-pat boyfriend was bored with her and playing around, I listened to her sob-story thinking, hope I am still as keen as he seemed to be at that age!!
Eventually M stood up and stripped off, I got my first shot of those tits, all I can say is ‘’Rocket Cones’’ she is 34C and absolutely nothing happened when she took her bra off, they just carried on sticking straight out. Whilst A was still droning on, I set about M for an excellent DATY, followed by BBBJ, MISH and Reverse Cowgirl etc etc. I returned from the Bathroom to find A had fallen asleep, oh well at least she had finally shut up!!
Around 10 am I was surprised to be woken by the attentions A giving me a BBBJ, now still quiet with her mouth full of cock anyway. She moved on top and started to shag me, a tiny spinner of a girl with good moves too, but then she ruined it by starting her moaning about her soon to be ex boyfriend and how he did things differently. Her friend M woke up and told her to shut up and enjoy what she was doing, but A just couldn’t stop her moaning.
Eventually I got fed up, M was going nuts and pushed A off me and jumped on instead, now that’s what friends are for! Whilst A was depressing herself, M and I were having a great time, I had to say it was probably one of the top ten girls I have ever had. M came twice sitting on top, and then let me unload over her impressive rack, meanwhile A got dressed ready to go home, boring !!!
The two girls left, thanking me for a great night out and a good time, no money was ever mentioned and therefore none was offered. It turned out to be a total Freebie cos my Mate paid for the night out as he had arranged it as a birthday treat to his girls, but it was me who had got the treat in the end. I met him later that day and thanked him gratefully, all he said was ‘’Bastard’’ ha ha. (Pics will be posted soon)
Time to sort out flights to Cebu……..
Cheers, F/Fifty
PS : Totally recommend Malate, Adriatico Street and Bedrock Bar area particularly for some excellent cheap bar hopping fun, seemed fairly safe too. Just avoid the back-alleys and stay on the main street, normal common sense stuff.
I went off for an arranged meet with another chatroom babe at Greenbelt for the afternoon. She is also barely 18, very fit and talkative, we enjoyed a pleasant stroll around the shops and cafes. It soon became pretty obvious I was going to have to marry her to get into her knickers as she kept mentioning the ‘’Virginity until I am with my husband’’ story.
Hehehe her name would'nt be Via would it?
Does Tae kwon do ring a bell?
Cheers
Amavida
How you goin' FF. Thanks for the comprehensive reports on Makati. It is very refreshing reading of someone else having a great time fucking beautiful women. I suppose that is what this Board is all about, exchanging stories and swapping ideas. The bar fines and prices of ladies' drinks seem to be a lot more than AC. However is the talent pool that much better than AC?
Breast wishes, good luck, have fun. Look forward to reading your Cebu report.
The bar fines and prices of ladies' drinks seem to be a lot more than AC. However is the talent pool that much better than AC?
Hi Wazza, sorry to butt in.
You can find hotties in both places. just be prepared to have your pockets emptied A LOT faster in Makati/Manila.
Frugal Mongering
Amavida
Pocket Sushi
03-10-08, 02:48
Amavida is correct. AC has more bars, more girls and therefore more stunners than Manila/Makati although the sheer numbers of girls in AC means there are also more fatties, baby stretched bellies and fuglies there too. Unless you absolutely have to be in Manila for some reason, its in your best interest to travel the 80 minutes to AC. The Southern Cross Hotel has a daily shuttle as does the Swagman Hotel. Both are about P600. You'll save that much on the first girl you barfine in AC. Total cost for AC (P1300 BF plus P1000 tip) is less than the BF cost in Makati (P3500) and most Makati girls want P3000 tip on top of that. If AC isn't an option and you're confined to Manila then you're better off going to EDSA or LA Cafe. Barfining in Makati is the equivalent of paying $15 for a Big Mac. Yeah I can afford it, but why should I let myself get ripped off like that.
Hi Wazza, sorry to butt in.
You can find hotties in both places. just be prepared to have your pockets emptied A LOT faster in Makati/Manila.
Frugal Mongering,
Amavida
Mates,
I want to get some dental work while on holiday. Can anybody give me some details of somebody that they used and were happy with the work?
Thanks in advance.
Seal
Mates,
I want to get some dental work while on holiday. Can anybody give me some details of somebody that they used and were happy with the work?
Thanks in advance.
Seal
Medical tourism is rapidly developing in PI. If you will be in Makati try here
http://www.gaocdental.com/contacts.php
or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_the_Philippines#Makati_City
or here
http://www.dentalsite.com/directory/philippines.html
or here
http://www.bitesnsmiles.com/
Cheers
Amavida
FreebieFan
03-10-08, 08:42
Ok so now we talk about gettting something extracted other than that huge thing we keep in our boxers.
The classified ads here has some comments about a dentist in Mall of Asia. But the better bet is to go to one of the medical "cities". Theres one next to Makati Med, a building full of dentists, and theres another one if I recall called "medical city" somewhere behind Edsa Shang hotel. Again, wall to wall dentists.
Which one is better than another who knows. I used to to go to a great place on Zapote Road (near Ayala Alabang) but I think thats too far for whatevers needed.
Fifty Fifty
03-10-08, 12:45
Hehehe her name would'nt be Via would it?
Does Tae kwon do ring a bell?
Cheers
Amavida
Nope, not Via, actually she was a genuine nice girl, but tight as a drum when it came to anything more than just a meeting, waste of a serious mongers time.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Fifty Fifty
03-10-08, 12:51
Barfining in Makati is the equivalent of paying $15 for a Big Mac. Yeah I can afford it, but why should I let myself get ripped off like that.
My sentiments exactly, thats why we played the Fone Number Game instead.
The Rip Off of Burgos has to end some time, all the bars are full of girls who are just not making any real money. Drink prices are being hiked to give the girls a bit, but they only get 50-100 of the 350 that each costs.
Actually during my whole time there I didnt see very much successful Barfining taking place, perhaps the Bar owners will recognise the poor marketing strategy and reverse the issue- - Pigs might fly !!!
Cheers, F/Fifty
Medical tourism is rapidly developing in PI. If you will be in Makati try here
http://www.gaocdental.com/contacts.php
or here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_hospitals_in_the_Philippines#Makati_City
or here
http://www.dentalsite.com/directory/philippines.html
or here
http://www.bitesnsmiles.com/
Cheers,
AmavidaThanks for the info mate!
Pocket Sushi
03-11-08, 13:02
Yeah, I keep waiting for the Makati barowners to realize their mistake but instead of lowering barfines, they just keep jacking up the LD prices. I was in Makati in Nov & LD's were 300. Now they're 350. The nights I was there the streets were like a ghost town. Not many people in any of the bars except maybe Flamingo which is part of the Wild West Group and has lower BF's anyway (2, 500 I think).
However over at EDSA and LA Cafe, the places were packed. LA Cafe has always been busy but just a few years ago you wouldn't see too many Westerners at EDSA; mostly locals, Japanese and Koreans. These days, you'll see dozens every night because the word is out that Makati is a scam. Tourists and expats that traditionally partied in Makati are both avoiding the place now. When you combine the greed of those barowners with the cultural aspect of Filipinos only thinking about what they can make today and not considering tomorrow, then you have the disaster that is Makati now. "Gouge what you can today and don't worry about repeat customers" seems to be their philosophy.
The phone sneakouts are a good idea 50/50. I'll give that a try next time and see what happens. I wouldn't normally do that in other areas because I generally try to support barowners that cater to expats & foreigners (especially in AC) but I have no sympathy for the extortionists in Makati.
My sentiments exactly, thats why we played the Fone Number Game instead.
The Rip Off of Burgos has to end some time, all the bars are full of girls who are just not making any real money. Drink prices are being hiked to give the girls a bit, but they only get 50-100 of the 350 that each costs.
Actually during my whole time there I didnt see very much successful Barfining taking place, perhaps the Bar owners will recognise the poor marketing strategy and reverse the issue- - Pigs might fly !!!
Cheers, F/Fifty
Yeah, I keep waiting for the Makati barowners to realize their mistake but instead of lowering barfines, they just keep jacking up the LD prices. I was in Makati in Nov & LD's were 300. Now they're 350. The nights I was there the streets were like a ghost town. Not many people in any of the bars except maybe Flamingo which is part of the Wild West Group and has lower BF's anyway (2, 500 I think).
However over at EDSA and LA Cafe, the places were packed. LA Cafe has always been busy but just a few years ago you wouldn't see too many Westerners at EDSA; mostly locals, Japanese and Koreans. These days, you'll see dozens every night because the word is out that Makati is a scam. Tourists and expats that traditionally partied in Makati are both avoiding the place now. When you combine the greed of those barowners with the cultural aspect of Filipinos only thinking about what they can make today and not considering tomorrow, then you have the disaster that is Makati now. "Gouge what you can today and don't worry about repeat customers" seems to be their philosophy.
The phone sneakouts are a good idea 50/50. I'll give that a try next time and see what happens. I wouldn't normally do that in other areas because I generally try to support barowners that cater to expats & foreigners (especially in AC) but I have no sympathy for the extortionists in Makati.
I was last there in late Jan/early Feb. Know a couple of BG's there & they were all reporting empty bars. One night I went for a quick barhop of all the bars with a GF & saw for myself mostly empty bars or 2-3 westerners at most in some.
A couple of points :
- the girls in these bars are on average no better than anywhere else.
- people have been complaining about the bar fines in Burgos for at least 5 years now.
- there are still high rollers & newbies paying these prices - just read this Makati forum.
- Holiday peak season these bars are crowded & obviously make A LOT of money then.
Just boycott these bars & go elswhere.
Cheers
Amavida
I am working my way through this Makati thread, and am still working my way a couple of weeks back. Therefore, I am ReadingTFF, but I have not read this entier fucking forum. So, cut me some slack guys!
I am headed to Manila and am curious about Conway’s Bar in the Shangri-La. What super classy place like the Shangri-La lets a bunch of hookers hang-out in their bar? Are there quite a few of the girls hanging out there? How many? Are they 7’s, 8’s, 9’s? What kind of prices do these girls charge? Does the Shangri-La give you any problems about taking the girls up to the hotel rooms? What is the “drill” at Conway’s? You come in; get a table; do the girls come to you or do you need to go over to them? Do you buy them a few drinks; negotiate the deal; and off you go? I am really curious about the drill at Conway’s
Pocket Sushi
03-12-08, 04:49
I am working my way through this Makati thread, and am still working my way a couple of weeks back. Therefore, I am ReadingTFF, but I have not read this entier fucking forum. So, cut me some slack guys!
I am headed to Manila and am curious about Conway’s Bar in the Shangri-La. What super classy place like the Shangri-La lets a bunch of hookers hang-out in their bar? Are there quite a few of the girls hanging out there? How many? Are they 7’s, 8’s, 9’s? What kind of prices do these girls charge? Does the Shangri-La give you any problems about taking the girls up to the hotel rooms? What is the “drill” at Conway’s? You come in; get a table; do the girls come to you or do you need to go over to them? Do you buy them a few drinks; negotiate the deal; and off you go? I am really curious about the drill at Conway’sI've never been to Conway's (and I sure hope someone posts here with some good info about it) but I can tell you about the Hyatt Casino. I was there back in November just to check it out and play some roulette. I stood around the roulette wheel just watching and trying to get a feel for the table/dealer when a gorgeous well dressed Filipina came up and started talking to me. I'm guessing she was about 28 years old and she'd rate a 9 on my picky scale. She asked if I was staying in the hotel and if I was looking for company. I didn't tell her that I was staying at the Executive Plaza a couple of blocks away. Instead I made an excuse that I had to leave soon (true) to meet some friends and she gave me her phone number for a rendezvous later. Unfortunately I ended up pulling a girl out of LA Cafe that night and never followed it up so I couldn't even tell you the price. I hung around another 15 minutes or so and a couple others (just as classy but not as sexy I'd rate them 7's) approached me as well. Walking towards the escalator several others sitting at tables smiled and waved my way. All in all I think the place is a potential gold mine for high end trim. I'm not sure if staying in another hotel is a deal breaker or not. I plan on researching this more in a couple of weeks when I"m back in Manila. A long time expat told me that about 10 years ago, the best girls in Manila could be picked up in the Holiday Inn bar near the US Embassy.
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FreebieFan
03-12-08, 06:08
Ok. This belongs on the Malaysia thead but wanted to post her for amusement and interest.
Through a sms site (like Friendster but thru sms) I got in contact with a Filipina. Lots of sms follows as in getting to know you. Arranged a meet. Well she wasnt quite the 33 she said she was but was small and failry cute. The way I like them. But not cute enough. Anyways she was going out of town for 2 months but said she hoped she could connect with me when she returns. And her hand on my leg indicated for jollies. Maybe Honey.
Anyways she left, and next day he sent me sms with the name of her "friend". A normal Filipina who works as a secretary here. Anyway she said " heres a friend to keep you busy till I come back". And the friend. Just the way I like. 28. Tall slim and happy. And she will be on my bed later today after yesterdays intro meet.
You gotta love girls who help their friends get laid.
I am working my way through this Makati thread, and am still working my way a couple of weeks back. Therefore, I am ReadingTFF, but I have not read this entier fucking forum. So, cut me some slack guys!
I am headed to Manila and am curious about Conway’s Bar in the Shangri-La. What super classy place like the Shangri-La lets a bunch of hookers hang-out in their bar? Are there quite a few of the girls hanging out there? How many? Are they 7’s, 8’s, 9’s? What kind of prices do these girls charge? Does the Shangri-La give you any problems about taking the girls up to the hotel rooms? What is the “drill” at Conway’s? You come in; get a table; do the girls come to you or do you need to go over to them? Do you buy them a few drinks; negotiate the deal; and off you go? I am really curious about the drill at Conway’sSo start at Star Bucks across the street. See if you can make a friend there or the field across form Star Bucks (1 or 2 girls just standing there.- hmmm).
If you miss. Walk to Conways.
The bar is strangly like a U. S. Bar. Most girls do not walk up to you. They are shy by nature. Some girls are there looking for boyfriends. I know this b/c walking home one night from Greenbelt 3. I saw a girl from Conway's and we talked. I could tell she was not a pro. I think I could have taken her home but she was with a friend and I sort of made my play for her friend and lost.
At Conway's the girls can be direct. One showed me a nude picture of herself while we were talking. I know it sounds like I made that up. True story. Another time talking to a girl she basically said "I'm a hooker. I want *** for money. " She wanted 100 US. Ha, ha, ha. She wanted to much money but I talked her down.
I will say it was pretty fun when I have been there. I hung with a couple of business men. She talked about the women who were and were not making eye contact with us. We laughed at the guys chasing the grand ma's.
The girls were not that young. Late 20's to late 40's.
Fifty Fifty
03-12-08, 10:14
I have no sympathy for the extortionists in Makati.
Me neither. Rip Off all the way up Burgos - sod them.
Unfortunately we never made it over to LA Cafe or EDSA to see the real deal, after playing the Fone Number game in Burgos bars Makati things got a bit hectic there, but we did save a bundle of cash and get a few freebies too. Well it counts as a freebie, even if I did pay for the odd cheapo evening out somewhere local ha ha.
Cheers, F/Fifty
JasonKramer
03-12-08, 14:22
All of the bars on Burgos is owned by 2-3 people. It would be one thing if the bars were individually owned by different people but every single bar has the same prices for drinks, bar fines, etc. They think they're slick by raising the prices of the drinks and barfines ALL AT THE SAME TIME. What they don't know is that they are killing their business with their greed. The Philippines is still a 3rd world country and I"m not going to pay the same prices for drinks as I would in San Francisco, NY, or Hong Kong. Burgos is dead. The owners get together and decided to "work together". Well, they are not "suffering together". I hate greedy people. In the end, they suffer. Because word gets around and there are other places to go, with better quality of women. The irony is that I live on Burgos St. , and I see how much business has deteriorated. When you walk in the bars, the girls and the mamasans are so pushy and desperate. Even the newest bar, "Divinos" charges 350 pesos for a drink and 750 pesos for a ladies drink. ARE YOU FREAKIN KIDDING ME? ! " I tell everyone to boycott Burgos. They are not getting any of my money.
Wicked Roger
03-12-08, 16:10
I am working my way through this Makati thread, and am still working my way a couple of weeks back. Therefore, I am ReadingTFF, but I have not read this entier fucking forum. So, cut me some slack guys!
I am headed to Manila and am curious about Conway’s Bar in the Shangri-La. What super classy place like the Shangri-La lets a bunch of hookers hang-out in their bar? Are there quite a few of the girls hanging out there? How many? Are they 7’s, 8’s, 9’s? What kind of prices do these girls charge? Does the Shangri-La give you any problems about taking the girls up to the hotel rooms? What is the “drill” at Conway’s? You come in; get a table; do the girls come to you or do you need to go over to them? Do you buy them a few drinks; negotiate the deal; and off you go? I am really curious about the drill at Conway’s
There was a short FR on Conways by Park about 6-8 months ago. Been there myself seems no real issues. Whether you want to impress by saying you are at Oxford Suites,Best Western etc is up to you. Shangri La is like any other establishment. It likes punters to buy drinks best they do wilth nice eye candy.
Nice lookers. Also some high end Filipino sugar daddies there at same time - so a good mix. Will check it out again if I have time when in Manila next week an do a FR. Depends what am doing though late at night...:)
FreebieFan
03-13-08, 01:08
So weve started this thread again. Thought wed all had our rant about it 3 months ago.
Burgos will continue to thrive as its the only western friendly well located place in Makati. EDSA is a haul and so is LA CAfe. And mongers in town want somewhere close to their hotels and western friendly. And guys visiting town for a few day want pussy.
When we live in Makati we start thinking in peso terms and understand what a P350 drink means in terms of local salaries and local price of san migs etc.
I even balk at paying Ayalas crazy parking fees everywher I go. But that because I've been there too long.
Burgos is easy. Have a beer. Find a cutie. Get the number. Pick her up next day afternoon (and most live in boarding houses near Burgos). Take her to Anito or Sogo for a bang (cost 550 for a regualr room three hours). And in most of my cases. Drop them off back at bar in time for work with P1000 in her pocket. Doesnt get easier than that. And all for aP350 beer.
Stop complainiing and play the game.
Or enter the free world and play pick ups in malls etc. Then no need to whinge about bar fines when its free.
Fifty Fifty
03-13-08, 07:58
Burgos is easy. Have a beer. Find a cutie. Get the number. Pick her up next day afternoon (and most live in boarding houses near Burgos). Take her to Anito or Sogo for a bang (cost 550 for a regualr room three hours). And in most of my cases. Drop them off back at bar in time for work with P1000 in her pocket. Doesnt get easier than that. And all for aP350 beer.
Let's have a closer look at this suggestion -
350 for beer, Possibly the same for a Lady Drink or another beer while you are making your choice so around 1000 for the bar time especialy if you dont find your chosen cutie in the first bar!!.
Sogo, Anito 550 plus transport there and back, tips etc. say 700 Total
Money for the girl 1000 min, maybe a bit more.
So for a short time we have already spent around 2700- 3000 PHP.
My preference is the free option as quoted below, assuming one has a place to take the girl and not relying on Sogo or similar. I found freebies usually cost a few coffees or a small meal instead, so nothing is actually free.
Or enter the free world and play pick ups in malls etc. Then no need to whinge about bar fines when its free.
Basically as any monger will say - You pay your money and take your pick, or vice versa :)
It is an expensive game no matter how you play it.
The only thing is, you can avoid paying your money to the Burgos Rip Off, there are more deserving causes in Makati or elsewhere. Boycotting Burgos will not work as there will always be new fools to pay, but informing others who use this site and making sure we are all aware of the alternatives works for me.
Long may the rant continue.
Cheers, F/Fifty
JasonKramer
03-14-08, 12:24
So weve started this thread again. Thought wed all had our rant about it 3 months ago.
Burgos will continue to thrive as its the only western friendly well located place in Makati. EDSA is a haul and so is LA CAfe. And mongers in town want somewhere close to their hotels and western friendly. And guys visiting town for a few day want pussy.
When we live in Makati we start thinking in peso terms and understand what a P350 drink means in terms of local salaries and local price of san migs etc.
I even balk at paying Ayalas crazy parking fees everywher I go. But that because I've been there too long.
Burgos is easy. Have a beer. Find a cutie. Get the number. Pick her up next day afternoon (and most live in boarding houses near Burgos). Take her to Anito or Sogo for a bang (cost 550 for a regualr room three hours). And in most of my cases. Drop them off back at bar in time for work with P1000 in her pocket. Doesnt get easier than that. And all for aP350 beer.
Stop complainiing and play the game.
Or enter the free world and play pick ups in malls etc. Then no need to whinge about bar fines when its free.After work, most girls from Burgos likes to hang out and eat at Jolibees and have a few drinks with their friends in Malate. By the time they go home and sleep, it's 6am - 7am. And they wake up, they are already getting ready for another day at work,so most of them does not have the time to entertain a guest, unless it's their day off.
There are so many better alternatives. You can just pick up a girl at a mall, buy her lunch and have fun with her. At a couple of stores at Glorietta, I've banged a few employees, some at the same exact store. Not really sure if the entire staff knows, but I don't care. I prefer them much better, as they are not professionals. Yes, they tend to be more timid and inexperienced but I prefer them over the "sales pros".
Not only is the principle, but I just don't like the hassle of the girls and the waitresses. My glass is still 90% full and they come by and ask for another drink. When I say no, they come by in 5 minutes and ask me again.
There are other games in town to play with better girls. I'm live and work here now so I know the game. Go to EDSA. ( 60-80 pesos from Makati ) Go to Cafe Havanna. Go the the malls and you'll notice the girls making eye contact with you. Just approach them and start talking and you'll be surprised how fast they'll drop their drawers.
I live here in a condo, right on Burgos. This place is dead. We, foreigners here, it's a tight-knit group that lives here. We all agree. They are not getting our money anymore.
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Fifty Fifty
03-14-08, 12:50
Going Bush with two shaven babes??
Next afternoon, having sorted our flights out to Cebu my mate went off to Quezon to meet another Internet Babe and left me alone (not for long) in Burgos. I surveyed the scene enjoying a few beers outside at R. Bellagio.
I got an SMS from M the big breasted one of last night/this morning asking what I was doing and did I fancy an afternoon trip to Cavite with the pair of them. Why the hell not?? So an hour later, around 5 pm, having nipped back to my hotel, I was armed with swimming gear, overnight bag and condoms as the two girls pick me up at Matrix – tame driver, no questions asked, off we go.
Traffic was horrendous, taxis, buses and tricycles everywhere; fortunately the company was pretty good as we went on a seemingly endless ride through towns and villages seemingly full of shops, bars and pussy, punctuated by the odd Jollibees and McDs. The village roads seemed to be lined with girls, I made a mental note to get out and see some up close next time I’m back. It was getting dark and I had no idea where we were headed, but it definitely wasn’t the Cavite as I had seen on the map, no signs of a town or city for last ten minutes told me we were out in the sticks now. Still the girls were good fun and sitting in the back with M and her ‘’Rocket Cones’’ in a bikini top had its advantages.
After a 2 hour drive we ended up at some crappy beach resort place on the coast about 45 Km SW of Makati (thanks to the GPS on my fone I knew where I was, ish) The girls told the driver to wait and arranged a room for us, looking at the pricelist, I chose a de-luxe 1 bedroom en-suite beach villa with Aircon & Fridge for the princely sum of 300 pesos, bargain. Room service was also a bargain at 20 Pesos for ice cold San Mig, or any other drink as it happened so we ordered and consumed a few.
To my complete surprise (not) the miserable little one from last night, ‘A’ turned all shitty and muttered in tagalog that she didn’t like the long drive, hated the place and wanted to go home cos she couldn’t swim. We left her moaning and in a moment of madness went swimming in the sea. The place was deserted and it was pitch black, who knows what colour the water was, or what was in it, but M with her top off was worth the risk anyday. We played around a bit and although keen, M wouldn’t let me shag her in the water so we retired to one of the many Napa Huts for a quickie, only to be disturbed by moaning A half way through. Strangulation was considered but not practical.!!
My Wingman sent me an SMS asking where I was and when I told him he said I must be nuts and began to worry about me, sending me SMS every ten minutes or so to see if I was still alive, caring chap. Apparently not intending to stay the night, After a couple of hours there M had enough and we packed our stuff ready to go back to the sanity of Makati.
The ride back was better than the ride there for two reasons, one – less traffic and two – a decent, but quiet BBBJ from M in the back of the car, yum yum and free of course!
I paid the driver (1000 pesos) and dumped M and her moaning friend, then after a shower to wash the beach crap off I went to Matrix at around 11pm to meet my mate who was somehow glad to see me, still saying I must be totally nuts going off like that.
M Wingman was tired and reluctant to bar hop so we decided on an early night. Not being one to go home alone, I surveyed the Street Scene at Burgos, popping across the road to the 7/11 to get some money on my fone. The usual gaggle of ‘’Hi Sir, you want Massage’’ type of Street Dogs were hanging around outside, but as I entered the shop I spied a little beauty doing her make-up in the well placed security mirror. Stopping at the conveniently situated table to put the numbers in my fone I watched her watching me in the mirror. I nod, she comes over, close up it’s a pretty good looker who I had not seen anywhere on Burgos before, so off we go back to Matrix. My waiting Wingman laughs and says ‘’I thought you went to get money on your fone’’ as we surveyed the sexy bod on the girl with no name now sitting next to us. I hadn’t even mentioned menu or money as we left for the hotel, 5 mins walk away. She was obviously intending to adjust her price as to establishment and although catering for every need the BW looks low end so her opening offer was a massage for 1000. When I said I hadn’t taken her for her massage skills, I needed a good shag instead, she said ok that is included service. We bartered and joked for a bit, eventually settling on 1000 for all night and maybe more if she was good.
Maybe I was tired from my earlier excursion to nowhere, she was fit, nice tits etc, but one round of fun and I was soon asleep. Fortunately the morning proved better and we had another round before going down to the hotel breakfast. Like most I had booked double occupancy and it was a blast to see all the guys, same as me sitting with last night’s babe keen to get the free food down her neck. Back to the room, she got her bag, I gave her 1500 and we walked out into the sunshine, saying bye, no fone numbers, nothing, maybe never to meet again, easy as that.
So in 24 hours, morning fun shagging with two girls in the hotel, a long trip to nowhere (with half a shag and a BBBJ) then a decent couple of jumps with a Street Girl had cost me a total of around 3000 pesos, not a bad cheap day out in Makati.
Cheers, F/Fifty
Wicked Roger
03-14-08, 19:20
Fellow Mongers
Well am back on business in Makati again. Work is hard but made all the easier by seeing some tasty newbies this trip.
But firstly I must thank my good friend Asian Western for the contacts for his good friend – he and Fifty Fifty know who I mean (let’s call her G). In fact she reads ISG, so thanks G and see you soon! FF had used her services very recently and was not disappointed nor was his Wingman. And nor was I :)
But…at first I had to meet a newbie from DIA who agreed to coffee (with the normal cousin in tow – if it makes them more comfortable then all the better I say). She was slightly older than the girls I was to meet later (she was 24) but an amazing rack on cam and naughty as well – she showed me her dildo and we had some interesting chat.
Coffee at Bo's Coffee Glorietta was fun. Despite being an hour late, she turned up in a stunning white dress and white heels that showed her rack to perfection. Just lovely to look at – I liked looking at her as did most of the guys when we walked around the mall (cousin behind us). Cousin was cute too but not as instant lust looking as this one (Miss M).
M and I had a long chat about families, education, beaches (she would look amazing in a WW bikini), hobbies and then some more interesting sex talk. Cousin liked me also so we all got along. Outback for food, more chit chat and whispers in the ear etc. On the way down the stairs of Outback she stops me and tell me her ‘secret’. Now I was thinking she is a lady boy very cleverly disguised (but not thank goodness!). It is she also shoves the dildo up her backside – so I said I would help her next time :D
Next time was a taxi ride away which seems to take longer in the bad traffic more so when you are horny as hell. Cousin stayed around Glorietta and Greenbelt while we cuddled up and went to the hotel.
Back in the room she looks very tasty naked, what a great rack – no pictures as I respect her decision and I want to get shagged. To my surprise (well maybe not after out talking) she whips out a purple dildo and we proceed to have fun. BBBJK, DATY all the normal stuff and helping her with the dildo. As a good Boy Scout I come prepared and I got some lube from the bag (passion fruit flavoured) and we slowly inserted it ()and late little roger) in the glory hole. From there it just got very lustful, sweaty and naughty.
CIM at the end was a wonderful way to start the late afternoon. And a promise of more to come when back in Makati towards the end of the week.
Later that evening I met G, someone I had been chatting with for a while always on cam. FF and Wingman had recently utilised her services and AW and I had emailed a bit also so I knew the score etc. On cam it is bizarre as G brings the girls to show me so I can take a choice….a beauty parade of sorts.
Based on FF and AW I took J, 18, fantastic rack, slim and cute. FF’s Wingman had enjoyed her the week before so I had to make sure she had a good time this time :D G turns up at he hotel with J and J is a little shy (cute in a nice way) and asks if I mind that G joins in…well is the Pope Catholic :) G and I had already discussed this and we both said yes! So I was double teamed by 2 very sexy and wonderfully proportioned Filipinas for a few hours, changing positions, lovely BBBJ by both lovely everything by both climaxing with CIM for J (her first time). Greek not on menu but maybe if I was around more I could persuade J.
Dinner thrown in and it was an excellent way to end the night especially as I had an early flight the next morning. And a promise to meet G again but with a different slim and shaved Filipina when am back as well – at this rate I will get knob rot before the week’s out !
More fun to come
Enjoy the pics - the girls know about ISG and G will defienitely read the report and approves of the pics. But no faces I keep my word - just their lovely raacks and J's so smoothe shaved pussy
Keep hard and horny
FreebieFan
03-15-08, 03:55
I dont live in Makati..I dont live in Phils, but lived there for a few years and still keep a condo in Makati .and go there every few weeks.
Your tight knit group may all be tight.. but whether you go there or not.. Burgos will still be around.
I started going there 28 years ago, bars are basically the same, some names have changed over time but still same street, same concept.. and the reality is that it wil be there for a long time to come.
Foreigners like all of us come.. and we go. We play in Burgos, we pick up freebies from the net, we kill ourselves by trying to shag work drink play all at same time.. and we all love it.
Am sure your tight knit group will find new areas to play and pick up..we all do.. but Burgos will still be around whatever the prices.
So I was double teamed by 2 very sexy and wonderfully proportioned Filipinas for a few hours, changing positions, lovely BBBJ by both lovely everything by both climaxing with CIM for J (her first time). Greek not on menu but maybe if I was around more I could persuade J.
Wow Rodg, your getting me horny just reading this FR hehehe :)
So where's our live action web feed now? Joke lang.. :)
Cheers
Amavida
Yes … I have RTFF!
I will be staying at the Shangri-La. Is it GF? What kind of prices do the girls ask at Conway’s?
Are any of the following within walking distance during the evening between 8:00 and 1:00 ……
EDSA complex
LA Café
P. Burgos
Hyatt Casino
Harrison Mall
How long are the cab rides to each of these locales from the Shangri-La? Are there ST rooms near EDSA, LA Café, Harrison Mall?
Where are these “casas” that guys have been talking about? Are they near-by? How do I find them and what is the procedure once you go in?
Thanks guys.
Yes … I have RTFF!
I will be staying at the Shangri-La. Is it GF? What kind of prices do the girls ask at Conway’s?
Are any of the following within walking distance during the evening between 8:00 and 1:00 ……
EDSA complex
LA Café
P. Burgos
Hyatt Casino
Harrison Mall
How long are the cab rides to each of these locales from the Shangri-La? Are there ST rooms near EDSA, LA Café, Harrison Mall?
Where are these “casas” that guys have been talking about? Are they near-by? How do I find them and what is the procedure once you go in?
Thanks guys.
Hi Noguera,
Virtually al hotels in the Phils regard who you sleep with as your business. Some have better security at the front of house than others. If you're paying for a double occupancy you should have no problem. (Cheapskates who pay for single occupancy deserve all they get)
I would not be walking around long distances at nite. Catch a cab, its safer.
There are short time hotels (Sogo, Cherry Blossoms etc) near La Cafe. I dont use them but others who do will be able to give more info.
Casa's are brothels, they cater to locals. I understand they are pretty seedy.
Cheers mate
Amavida
GoodEnough
03-16-08, 01:37
Permit me to echo Amavida's advice. Do not take any long walks during the evening anywhere in Manila. You could, I guess, walk from the hotel to Burgos in about 20-25 minutes, but you should not do so. The rest of the places you mention are not even close to walking distance. Getting to EDSA will take you 20 minutes by cab and getting to LA Cafe will take at least 30. Casas are essentially seedy-looking rooms with bunches of women, one or two of whom you can select for the evening for a negotiated price and take back to your hotel. I've been to a couple of Davao years and years ago but never been to one in Manila. However, I'm sure all the taxi drivers know their locations.
GE
I've never been to Conway's (and I sure hope someone posts here with some good info about it) but I can tell you about the Hyatt Casino. I was there back in November just to check it out and play some roulette. I stood around the roulette wheel just watching and trying to get a feel for the table/dealer when a gorgeous well dressed Filipina came up and started talking to me. I'm guessing she was about 28 years old and she'd rate a 9 on my picky scale. She asked if I was staying in the hotel and if I was looking for company. I didn't tell her that I was staying at the Executive Plaza a couple of blocks away. Instead I made an excuse that I had to leave soon (true) to meet some friends and she gave me her phone number for a rendezvous later. Unfortunately I ended up pulling a girl out of LA Cafe that night and never followed it up so I couldn't even tell you the price. I hung around another 15 minutes or so and a couple others (just as classy but not as sexy I'd rate them 7's) approached me as well. Walking towards the escalator several others sitting at tables smiled and waved my way. All in all I think the place is a potential gold mine for high end trim. I'm not sure if staying in another hotel is a deal breaker or not. I plan on researching this more in a couple of weeks when I"m back in Manila. A long time expat told me that about 10 years ago, the best girls in Manila could be picked up in the Holiday Inn bar near the US Embassy.I have also been picked up at the Hyatt Casino. I was playing slots and a lady (5/10) kept following close by and I started to talk to her and in 15 minutes she was in my room at the Diamond Hotel. She was 35, no kids, divorced from Japanese. She wanted 2000P to gamble, but I told her I would give her 1000P for ST and she took it. I had took a Calis and got hard just looking at her; she got naked and I covered up and bent her over doggie and slamed her for 10 minutes. She was screaming, "I Love You". When we finished, she was bleeding and I asked her if she started her monthly and she said no, that she haven't had sex in five years. She was very tight, but I don't know if she was telling the truth. She wanted a second hit, but I had to meet my buddy at LA Cafe' so I passed. I can still see her in my mind walking back to the casino from the 25th floor of the hotel:D I always like to watch the walk of shame to ensure that they are gone:D
Robb
The second time I went to Manila, I had jet lag - woke up about 3am and went for a walk in Luneta Park. Later, people told me that was a crazy thing to do.
I've never had a problem walking around Ermita and Malate at night, but that doesn't mean you should do it.
X
Permit me to echo Amavida's advice. Do not take any long walks during the evening anywhere in Manila. You could, I guess, walk from the hotel to Burgos in about 20-25 minutes, but you should not do so. The rest of the places you mention are not even close to walking distance. Getting to EDSA will take you 20 minutes by cab and getting to LA Cafe will take at least 30. Casas are essentially seedy-looking rooms with bunches of women, one or two of whom you can select for the evening for a negotiated price and take back to your hotel. I've been to a couple of Davao years and years ago but never been to one in Manila. However, I'm sure all the taxi drivers know their locations.
GE
... woke up about 3am and went for a walk in Luneta Park. Later, people told me that was a crazy thing to do... X
I don't feel any more unsafe than any other big city when Im in Manila.
Common sense, street smarts & blind luck can only take you so far.
I don't advise anyone to roam far from their hotel/apartment at night.
However comfortable we may feel, we are foreigners here.
Cheers
Amavida
I have also been picked up at the Hyatt Casino. In 15 minutes she was in my room at the Diamond Hotel. She was 35, no kids, . She got naked and I covered up and bent her over doggie and slamed her for 10 minutes. She was screaming, "I Love You". When we finished, . She was very tight, but I don't know if she was telling the truth. She wanted a second hit, . I can still see her in my mind. RobbHi Robb,
Wooow. Good find and good job.
More please.
Cheers
...the girls know about ISG and G will defienitely read the report and approves of the pics.
Thanks for the FR, it is always entertaining to read about your escapades.
But who would knowingly clue local women onto ISG?
I sincerely hope it wasn't you. :confused:
Fifty Fifty
03-17-08, 10:35
Thanks for the FR, it is always entertaining to read about your escapades.
But who would knowingly clue local women onto ISG?
I sincerely hope it wasn't you. :confused:
As ISG is easy to find (Google) and free to read I am fairly certain that there are more female readers than you may think.
Mattrick, you may be even more surprised to know that the girl (G) WR is referring to is actually a member, she is not only clued into ISG but has posted as well as read everything in this thread. After all, ISG is a Sex Guide and Sex is a 2 way street in my book.
I also know of ISG members who's wives RTFF, shock horror, but interesting Coffee Morning chat :)
Cheers F/Fifty
Wicked Roger
03-17-08, 11:18
Thanks for the FR, it is always entertaining to read about your escapades.
But who would knowingly clue local women onto ISG?
I sincerely hope it wasn't you. :confused:
No Mattrick
As FF says she is a member !
And if you want to see her and her friends she will ask you if you ISG and read your posts etc. Ask Blink157 as he will be using her service soon. I am will again tomorrow when am back from Cebu
As ISG is easy to find (Google) and free to read I am fairly certain that there are more female readers than you may think.
...
I also know of ISG members who's wives RTFF, shock horror, but interesting Coffee Morning chat :)
Cheers F/Fifty
A timely reminder to married men to be very bloody careful what the reveal in these forums... ;)
Amavida
Good advice Amavida. As you know, I sometimes posts pictures here. One guy reading the forum told the girl that I posted her pics. It caused me some grief. So there are a lot of ways that things can go wrong....
I have mixed feelings about posting pics, but I keep doing it because I like seeing other people's pics. These days I avoid telling what city, and certainly what bar, the girl is in. Unfortunatlely, I sometimes get replies like, "hey great pics, is that Ms. abc from xyz bar?".
You yourself recently responded to my pic post with, "Hey, is that xyz hotel?" I realize it was just an innocent question, but it is my intent to reveal as little indentity info as possible -- so a hotel name identifies the city. I realize that I may seem very hypocritical since I'm posting the gal's most private photo.
What really worries me is that my descendents will have access to granddaddies postings on ISG as technology seems to make anonymity more difficult. Maybe that's what I deserve since some of my photos could also come back to haunt someone. Bad karma?
x
A timely reminder to married men to be very bloody careful what the reveal in these forums... ;)
Amavida
FreebieFan
03-18-08, 03:10
A few years back I made the mistake of having one user name for Yahoo, ISG, and a few other places.
Abou 2 years ago I was going to visit a long time friend in Jakarta. When she sent me sms that stated " I know all about you and how you live your life and maybe I shouldnt see you again. She further stated " I know more than you think ". At the time I had no idea what she meant and she wouldn't tell me.
Then a year or so ago I was making inroads into a cutie. I could tell it was a matter of time before this highly conservative lady would let her walls of resistance down. However, when I sent her an sms to arrange a next meeting, she replied stating that I was a disgusting perverted filthy guy etcetc. I asked what she was talking about and she told me she had read my posts in a forum and realised that I only liked sex. Duh!
So I changed my name and made sure theres no duplication of name overlaps.
Sure its a public forum and not hard to find. But smart use of names and photo postings without details helps give a measure of protection.
Fred C Dobbs
03-18-08, 07:54
It's perhaps not the cheapest, but an excellent hotel with nice rooms, huge lobby, a lobby bar, and a bar on the second floor with live music.
In both bars you can always find some catch if you are too lazy to go out.
Some months ago I stayed there, and it's clearly girl-friendly. You see the chicks walking in and out at any time of the day, and guys with chicks at any time as well - despite the security everywhere.
Nobody cares, and you can enjoy.
Therefore, if you like the luxury of a five star hotel and do not want to give up mongering, it might be a though.
Wonderer - who is longing his next time in the Philippines
I will be in Makati for a couple of nights next month with a special lady. Would this be the best hotel choice for something romantic? Is the location OK? Thanks all.
I will be in Makati for a couple of nights next month with a special lady. Would this be the best hotel choice for something romantic? Is the location OK? Thanks all.
Hi Fred,
makati is the most expensive place in Manila but has the most hotels to choose from, is conveniently located for the airport, mongerin & shopping access.
The question is too broad...
click here to start choosing a hotel http://www.asiarooms.com/philippines/manila.html
As you can see hotels in Manila go from $400 - $500 / night down to whatever you want to pay. I mean this is the nicest way but who are you trying to impress, you or her? Honestly if she likes you the hotel will not be that important to her as long as it is comfortable - clean, quiet & safe.
Remember these girls lead extremely simple lives. A $60 a night hotel will be a palace compared to her living conditions. Staying in a $500 / night room may be sending the wrong signals to her...
All the best
Amavida
Hi Fred,
makati is the most expensive place in Manila but has the most hotels to choose from, is conveniently located for the airport, mongerin & shopping access.
The question is too broad...
click here to start choosing a hotel http://www.asiarooms.com/philippines/manila.html
As you can see hotels in Manila go from $400 - $500 / night down to whatever you want to pay. I mean this is the nicest way but who are you trying to impress, you or her? Honestly if she likes you the hotel will not be that important to her as long as it is comfortable - clean, quiet & safe.
Remember these girls lead extremely simple lives. A $60 a night hotel will be a palace compared to her living conditions. Staying in a $500 / night room may be sending the wrong signals to her...
All the best
Amavida
I agree, I have found that many girls are impressed by the simple fact that you can afford to fly to the Philippines to meet them in the first place. Explaining to girls that a plane ticket does not make you a rich man is near impossible.
The problem I am facing right now is too many hotels to choose from. The girl I am going to meet is also not worried about the hotel I choose.
I have mixed feelings about posting pics, but I keep doing it because I like seeing other people's pics. These days I avoid telling what city, and certainly what bar, the girl is in. Unfortunatlely, I sometimes get replies like, "hey great pics, is that Ms. abc from xyz bar?".
x
Hey X,
The good thing about pics on ISG is that you need to be a Senior Member to see them, I just feel sorry for the girls that end up on You Tube. For all the world to see.
Fred C Dobbs
03-18-08, 16:06
Hi Fred,
makati is the most expensive place in Manila but has the most hotels to choose from, is conveniently located for the airport, mongerin & shopping access.
The question is too broad...
click here to start choosing a hotel http://www.asiarooms.com/philippines/manila.html
As you can see hotels in Manila go from $400 - $500 / night down to whatever you want to pay. I mean this is the nicest way but who are you trying to impress, you or her? Honestly if she likes you the hotel will not be that important to her as long as it is comfortable - clean, quiet & safe.
Remember these girls lead extremely simple lives. A $60 a night hotel will be a palace compared to her living conditions. Staying in a $500 / night room may be sending the wrong signals to her...
All the best
Amavida
before. I don't need to impress me I need to impress her. I have been to the Phiilppines 7 times as well as many other countries. From the research I have done a room at the Shrangri-La can be had for just over usd 200 but the cost doesn't matter. Is this the best place to be for a romantic stay? There or somewhere else?
before. I don't need to impress me I need to impress her. I have been to the Phiilppines 7 times as well as many other countries. From the research I have done a room at the Shrangri-La can be had for just over usd 200 but the cost doesn't matter. Is this the best place to be for a romantic stay? There or somewhere else?
Try the Renaissance Makati. The Shangri-la is a fucking rip off. I still miss the Renaissance from time to time the service was superb. But hey if you never stayed there I would give it spin for GP (General Purpose).
before. I don't need to impress me I need to impress her. I have been to the Phiilppines 7 times as well as many other countries. From the research I have done a room at the Shrangri-La can be had for just over usd 200 but the cost doesn't matter. Is this the best place to be for a romantic stay? There or somewhere else?
Romance does not spring from big spending.
I had a candle lit dinner on a beach on Borcay with a girl.
The resort was Lorenzo south, not an expensive place but boy did that dinner go down well with the lady!
You seem to have your mind set on the Shangri-La makati, so be it. How about arrange for a special candle lit dinner with your paramour or something?
Read up some books on what women like & find romantic.
The size of your hotel bill ain't it.
Good luck mate!
Amavida
Fred C Dobbs
03-19-08, 02:28
All I wanted to know was about a hotel in Makati.
The Shangri La is a rip off, got it. I will try the Renaissance.
Wicked Roger
03-19-08, 07:47
All I wanted to know was about a hotel in Makati.
The Shangri La is a rip off, got it. I will try the Renaissance.
Fred
Also try Dusit as refurbished recently not bad, nice suites. Can get deluxe rooms for around 5000-6000 pesos and suites 8000-9000 pesos.
Fred C Dobbs
03-19-08, 07:55
I just booked 5 nights at the Renaissance for 150 usd a night. The Dusit was 200 usd. Both had great reviews.
I will read the forum later but does anyone have any recommendations for restaurants and clubs? Any must-do places? Thanks all.
The Renaissance is very nice and lady friendly. they do check her ID when you come in late at night or early morning. Been there 6 times and never have a problem. Last time was 2 years ago. Then the room were 120 for club room access or a long stay which is more that 7 days.
I just booked an april trip there - for 155. Very convenient location to Greenbelt and glorietta. Just walk across the street.
Enjoy your trip
All I wanted to know was about a hotel in Makati. The Shangri La is a rip off, got it. I will try the Renaissance.
I just booked 5 nights at the Renaissance for 150 usd a night. The Dusit was 200 usd. Both had great reviews. I will read the forum later but does anyone have any recommendations for restaurants and clubs? Any must-do places? Thanks all.
I guess you also need to know where to go while you are there?
I have been to the Phiilppines 7 times as well as many other countries.
IMHO, After 7 trips, one would think you know where to go and what to do.
Have a good trip,
Robb
Fred C Dobbs
03-19-08, 13:28
I guess you also need to know where to go while you are there?
IMHO, After 7 trips, one would think you know where to go and what to do.
Have a good trip,
Robb
Only once to Makati and that was to monger.
I can figure it out myself. IMHO, your post was not necessary.
I just booked 5 nights at the Renaissance for 150 usd a night. The Dusit was 200 usd. Both had great reviews.
I will read the forum later but does anyone have any recommendations for restaurants and clubs? Any must-do places? Thanks all.
Tight Sercurity (This is the Philippines) but dude the Rens is the shit. Too bad I now own a home about 20 mins away :( Right across the street is the Greenbelt mall which at night houses a couple of night clubs with real filipina eye candy.
The mall also houses a kind of patio area which is littered with hundreds of the middle class filipino folk and tourist looking for a good time at night right in front of a Star Bucks.
Down the street is the Glorietta mall about a 10 min walk. You are a hop skip and jump from the red light area of Makati. I stayed in a hotel around there for one night Oxford Suites and to say for me it was not up to snuff is an understatement.
Restaurants? Does a bear shit in the woods and wipe his ass with a fluffy white rabbit? What do you like to eat? The hotel food at the Rens is top of line but expensive. New Years day I went to a lunch event there that was $100 a plate. The Greenbelt has everything bruh. Chow King, Shakeys etc...
One Last Thing...Me and my personal (non WG) China Doll a Japanese raised Filipina returned one night at the Rens from drinking and partying and was badgered by sercurity about me registering my "guest". When I fired back that she is not a nightly pick up and is on the guest list the guy back off. Other then that I enjoyed my stay.
Enjoy Your vacation and Take It Sleazy
LoveAsianWhores
03-20-08, 08:04
I just booked 5 nights at the Renaissance for 150 usd a night. The Dusit was 200 usd. Both had great reviews.
I will read the forum later but does anyone have any recommendations for restaurants and clubs? Any must-do places? Thanks all.I've never stayed at the Renaissance, but I've been a regular on this board for several years. During that time, I have read more negative posts regarding the Renaissance then every other other Manila or Makati hotel combined. Several posters hate this hotel with a passion. There must be a reason for it, so it probably is a hotel that should be avoided.
I know after about 10 pmthe clubs at Greenbelt are active.
Anybody know if during the early afternoon if the plaza there by Starbucks is a good place to hang and find ay action?
What about in Glorietta ? Anyplace there for afternoon trolling? I saw some reviews about Harrison Mall is a busy.
Appreciate the advice.
Fifty Fifty
03-20-08, 12:47
I know after about 10 pmthe clubs at Greenbelt are active.
Anybody know if during the early afternoon if the plaza there by Starbucks is a good place to hang and find ay action?
What about in Glorietta ? Anyplace there for afternoon trolling? I saw some reviews about Harrison Mall is a busy.
Appreciate the advice.
I wonder, are there any recent reports on these places or should we say RTFF
Cheers, F/Fifty
Wicked Roger
03-20-08, 14:38
I know after about 10 pmthe clubs at Greenbelt are active.
Anybody know if during the early afternoon if the plaza there by Starbucks is a good place to hang and find ay action?
What about in Glorietta ? Anyplace there for afternoon trolling? I saw some reviews about Harrison Mall is a busy.
Appreciate the advice.
Sod all action today, all the malls closed, nice thing is less traffic but less pussy walking about. So off to Burgos after meeting some DIA girls....assuming that they dont play :)
Greenbelt is very active, Starbucks had some nice attempts and 1-2 successes in the past, but in the afternoon these would generally be non WGs, while at night some are
FreebieFan
03-21-08, 00:37
Great great great hotel. I had a 5 year association with the hotel until a few years back and would stay there almost every week. Great people. I've actually hardly read anything bad about it. Ok like all Makati hotels the room could more than do with a redo. But thats about it. And thats common to all the hotels there. Renaissance will do the trick for you. Less snooty than the Mandarin. More practical than Pen, Intercon way way way older. And Dusit is prone to labour strikes.
WR, You need to get over to LA Cafe in Ermita. Most anytime of day you can find something to hit there.
It's Holly Week in the PI so traffic in Manila not so bad. You can get a taxi from Makati to Ermita for less than Php175.
Action is easy to find in Ermita as well, Robinson Mall I've pick up a few walking around. I would consider moving to a hotel over in Ermita myself.
Have a good time.
RaZZorR
Sod all action today, all the malls closed, nice thing is less traffic but less pussy walking about. So off to Burgos after meeting some DIA girls....assuming that they dont play :)
Greenbelt is very active, Starbucks had some nice attempts and 1-2 successes in the past, but in the afternoon these would generally be non WGs, while at night some are
Wicked Roger
03-21-08, 01:38
WR, You need to get over to LA Cafe in Ermita. Most anytime of day you can find something to hit there.
It's Holly Week in the PI so traffic in Manila not so bad. You can get a taxi from Makati to Ermita for less than Php175.
Action is easy to find in Ermita as well, Robinson Mall I've pick up a few walking around. I would consider moving to a hotel over in Ermita myself.
Have a good time.
RaZZorR
Thanks Razzor
When the fog in my head eventually lifted I did get over to Ermita etc. FR to follow when I catch up.
Where is the Renaissance hotel located in respect to the Shangri-La? How far apart are they (in minutes) and please give me directions.
Where is the Renaissance hotel located in respect to the Shangri-La? How far apart are they (in minutes) and please give me directions.The New World Renaissance Hotel is about a 5 minute taxi ride from Shangri La and is located across from Greenbelt 3 on Esperanza St.
Wicked Roger
03-21-08, 07:24
Where is the Renaissance hotel located in respect to the Shangri-La? How far apart are they (in minutes) and please give me directions.
Not far really about 10 mintues walk IMHO but...it is hot and sticky so why walk, take a cheap taxi and be cooler and arrive not looking like a melting iced cream
Wicked Roger
03-21-08, 07:27
Fellow Mongers
Trying to catch up at the airport with FRs. I had a lovely time in Cebu – 2 cherries , nice FF M threesome with two 19 year olds and lots of fun. So I cam back to Manila very tired, totally shagged and smiling….and straight away back into the routine of seeing my DIA girl, the one with the toys and the lovely rack
This time we had a date, dinner (Greenbelt) and cinema, with touching and tongue throughout the file. This was followed by more DATY, BBBJ etc at the hotel CIM but no pictures, she can be shy. Lovely body firm, tight pussy, at around 4am she had to leave as we both had work very early the same day and I need 2-3 hours sleep. Also I had arranged to another girl from my good friend later that morning and did want to be so tired – as I would have shagged DIA girl again had I woken up with her.
After a meeting I returned to the hotel and sure enough 10 minutes later my friend (who is an ISG member as well) turned with a new girl as I had already seen one lovely – see the pictures- but liked some variety. This was again a perfect choice, slim, lovely skin and hair, shaved and just lovely in bed. Again my friend joined in and we had a nice FFM threesome ending with coming on her rack this time for a change
Following this a change of hotel (as I had Miss N coming in and needed a new venue from Burgos). As it happened N did not appear but that was fine as it gave more time to see the DIA girl again (just could not get enough of her and she of me – must be my charm :D). Also met a CB girl I had lined up but she was “nothing until we marry and meet family” so that was a dead loss IMHO. Then hotel for rest as Maribel that night and once again she did not disappoint me – such great shagging and when she comes am sure the hotel next door could hear her
As N was not coming I then had a day to spare but as Holy Week it was so quiet in Makati I could not believe it. Slept (I desperately needed – ask FF he and chatted and saw me in cam :( horrible sight). Then I went down Ermita and LA Café (Razzor the fog cleared) and had a few drinks (not alcoholic) and looked at the totty but nothing grabbed me and I was coming back there again later so was not too bothered but still nice to watch the eye candy
Back at hotel got on the DIA site and managed to snare a 22 year old Makati girl who agreed to come to the hotel later that night (after I had a met swing couple that I had agreed to meet – I like variety)
Had an appointment with a swing couple that was great, nice everything but no more on that. Then came DIA number ? (have lost count), small v petite a definite FF girl, heels and red nails. She cam with her cousin who was very pretty, nice rack but slightly chubby (and 19). We chatted, had drinks, snacks and WR gets into the more naughtier questions – after warning her that I would. These consist around if she had a shaved pussy (yes she did), had experience with Men (yes but limited) onto her favourite positions (dog style what a girl!). She asked mew some personal ones also as she was warming to the meeting. She asked me if I like to lick pussy (is the Pope Catholic), did I like to hard fuck (same answer), and would I teach her a blow job as we discovered she had never done that (well I am a gentleman). She was not cherry but inexperienced which is fine for me.
Quick word to cousin (who had very poor English) and she left (I gave her taxi money) and we were upstairs having a lesson on how to suck a man’s todger (BBBJ of course), DATY and 69 (also new for her) and then onto to her favourite position and others until I shot my load on her small rack.
Very petite, asked her to wear her heels and she did throughout (and will have higher ones next time), cuddled up watched TV and then had a drink before she left for home. Had a shower checked the emails and as she lived close by had already send me a note saying next time please…well of course :)
After a brief rest went back to LA Café via Amazonia first to meet drinking buddies who I had met in Cebu. Band very good, ex Middle East and the lead singer very tasty, great figure, lovely rack and the jeans are tight as hell and showed her arse to perfection. But very few punters etc so we moved to LA Café.
It was not that busy likely due to Holy Week. Lots of Japanese/Koreans there and the girls were focusing on them (maybe as they pay more) so some of the nicer ones taken. Went upstairs to LA Nites (paid my 100 pesos which is very cheap when you know UAE prices for entry). Standard of girls slightly better but the one I liked with Japanese so downstairs and two if us connected with a couple of ladies. My friend’s girl claimed she was newbie (she did look shy and b=nervous at times) introduced to LA Café by her friend who was with me. Both cute, mid 20s, slim nice figures but reckon 6/10. Chat and I find out that the other girl works (so this is pin money) while my one is a regular and does not work - LA Café her only source of income).
She started at 2000 pesos short time (ideal as I was checking out early) but she was not shaved and would not consider a visit to the barber…so that is a turn off for me. So I departed (she offered a discount of 1500 but still no shave) but I was not interested then, was totally shattered and shagged out and need sleep. Went back to hotel not before chatting to another LA girl but still no spark so got the taxi.
Bed and airport followed.
So my week here was fun, chasing DIA and CB girls mainly, lots of variety lots of chasing (at times) and some success. Not sure how many I have shagged in the week but will count another time. Two cherry girls, some very inexperienced and some very experienced so a nice mix. Just I am totally shagged and will sleep all the way home :) Nice of way of making sure I am tired.
Keep hard and horny
PS FYI, on way to hotel taxi stopped by police looking for an Easter contribution. Not a nice place to be, asked me about ID and guns, etc, got stock answers of “am tourist, ID in hotel etc” “ no guns as tourist”. Taxi driver kept his cool (he hates the police) and told them I was at the hotel and had diplomatic friends. That word (diplomat) made the police back down and find some other unsuspecting white guy to shake down. Close call but taxi driver said if you mention diplomat then tens to work. Police acting in the best interests of the public as always :D
Have not found much info on this hotel? Is it new and has anyone stayed there?
Thanks for the FR, it is always entertaining to read about your escapades.
But who would knowingly clue local women onto ISG?
I sincerely hope it wasn't you. :confused:Hi Mattrick,
I'm the girl who to talking about of WR and FF, i love reading here in ISG and for now trying to have a posts here. My friend Asianwestern is the one who tell me about this site and he is also a member, and i met FF and WR, and soon Blink157.
Wicked Roger
03-24-08, 20:25
Hi Mattrick,
I'm the girl who to talking about of WR and FF, i love reading here in ISG and for now trying to have a posts here. My friend Asianwestern is the one who tell me about this site and he is also a member, and i met FF and WR, and soon Blink157.
Mattrick
There you are, be thankful she is very open minded and a very nice. And she does like to read the FRs, am hoping she will give her perspective on matters from a provider viewpoint.
She thinks the world of AW and me of course....not sure about FF...:D OK he is nice too.
See you soon XL say hi to Blink for me
Had my self all primed up to sneak off for a week in AC soon when my favorite BG from Makati pop's up this morning & reminds me her birthday April 22 & asks if we could do something special together.. like a few days in Boracay.
Hmm the thought of shagging Jing in Boracay is very tempting but I could just shag her in Manila so im not buying. She has a counter offer to take her equally f@#kable cousin Kate with us. I tell her Im not paying for two rooms (hint hint). Kate comes on line & say's 'ok wit me'. I don't assume anything so I advance negotiations along by informing Kate it's too hard to sleep on the floor... (God Im so nice & considerate) Kate comes back saying she will be happy to sleep in bed with jing & I.
I have no intention of sleeping whilst in bed with these two honey's! .. the blood is rushing to my little brain... through a fog of lust I manage to remember to check back with Jing who gives me '8s ok wit me'.
Just to make it clear they are going to have to work for their supper I tell them both Im very 'makulit' so we gonna b havin fun in bed at night, maybe not a lot of sleep. I get 'sup 2 u' back from them both. I see big encouraging smiles on the web cam from them both.
At this point I have given them a provisional yes. meanwhile I'm emailing them both to check when there period is - VERY IMPORTANT point. Don't want to go all that way there just t find out they're not on the menu that week..
Now, culturally, I think its a little unlikely these two cousins will fulfill their end of the bargain even if they are both BG's. In my experience usually cousins/best friends are too shy to do threesomes but Im very tempted to give it a go...
Any of our veteran mongers have advice about this?
Yxeslhady what do you think?
Amavida
Wicked Roger
03-25-08, 08:07
Now, culturally, I think its a little unlikely these two cousins will fulfill their end of the bargain even if they are both BG's. In my experience usually cousins/best friends are too shy to do threesomes but Im very tempted to give it a go...
Any of our veteran mongers have advice about this?
Yxeslhady what do you think?
Amavida
Amavida
In my experience one will watch the other and it will not be a full blown threesome, you may get nipple licking etc but pussy eating is another matter.
I have had luck in Cebu but again they were friends, tequlia was flowing and it was fine...maybe get tequila flowing or something to help?
Maybe add that to menu next time you chat? I do I ask outright and ask them to oromise..and then when the time comes remind them
I have a promise like yours with 2 sisters and 2 friends both of whom have already licked pussy on cam for me so I sort of know that next time am in the country they will be OK (but I still have a plan B)
I have luck here in UAE of course with N and her friends :)
Fifty Fifty
03-25-08, 08:25
Now, culturally, I think its a little unlikely these two cousins will fulfill their end of the bargain even if they are both BG's. In my experience usually cousins/best friends are too shy to do threesomes but Im very tempted to give it a go...
Any of our veteran mongers have advice about this?
Amavida
Agreed, IMHO if the 2 girls are ''up for it'' they more than likely have discussed it already, but not in detail as each will be slightly embarassed to let the other know true feelings.
However you need to confirm that ""WE WILL BE HAVING A THREESOME"" in no uncertain terms, but at the same time being careful not to scare them off. You may have already done this in the way you described, questioning each in turn. It all looks pretty good so far.
My advice would be to take em both, then let the good old mongers friend, taking them to a Club or Karaoke Bar (I know, I Know), break the ice and adding some Alcohol of course.
It also depends on your idea of a threesome and what you expect, all the ones I have had (there have been a few) have, as WR says usually been banging one while the other watches, then vice versa. Getting two girls to play and do at same time is something my mate MK seems to be an expert at, but then again he has a very accommodating 'Good Lady'' to help set things up.
Give it a go and have fun,
Cheers, F/Fifty
Wicked Roger
03-25-08, 15:38
It also depends on your idea of a threesome and what you expect, all the ones I have had (there have been a few) have, as WR says usually been banging one while the other watches, then vice versa. Getting two girls to play and do at same time is something my mate MK seems to be an expert at, but then again he has a very accommodating 'Good Lady'' to help set things up.
Give it a go and have fun,
Cheers, F/Fifty
And MK is in the land of the snow and ice like you FF so they do that to keep warm :D
But you will get lucky but be upfront like me :) Certainly in the UAE no probelms..... MK and FF know what I mean
FreebieFan
03-27-08, 00:35
Ok so I'm setting up my next Manila trip. And doing my usual team selections in advance. Got some definates on the list (new and old) and some maybes. Was talking to a maybe yesterday, lives in Quezon City which as the crow flies is exactly 14-20 kms from Makati depending what part of QC.
So heres a girl with some nice pics, great English, fun chat. And she says. " Sir I am happy to meet you in Makati but I'm not familiar with the place. I don't know if I will lbe safe there and I don't know how to get there". Guess we can cross her off the list. Obviously not a well travelled gal. Haha
Then theres the 18 year old who was all hot to meet. Until yesterday, when she advises me shes actually 7 months pregnant. Got pregnant two days after giving up her virginity. And says she hasnt had sex since then but is desperate for it. Well maybe will get a blow from that one.
You have to laugh at the both the pursuit of women and the women we find. The highlight of the trip will be the girl who loves to be on cam (with me). Shows me the "pink" follows my every cam command, including inserting various objects, has promised to meet me in school uniform (shes 25, works in a bank). And hasnt had it for almost 3 years.
...So heres a girl with some nice pics, great English, fun chat. And she says. " Sir I am happy to meet you in Makati but I'm not familiar with the place. I don't know if I will lbe safe there and I don't know how to get there".
Actually thats pretty normal FF, they live in very close social groups in small little worlds within this big city. I would reassure her with a little help in directions. maybe set up a meet in a place nearer her place.
Then theres the 18 year old who was all hot to meet. Until yesterday, when she advises me shes actually 7 months pregnant. Got pregnant two days after giving up her virginity. And says she hasnt had sex since then but is desperate for it. Well maybe will get a blow from that one.
Hmmm, you do realise that if you show up, she will cling to you with massive desperation? A single mother in a third world country is a bad situation. Oh well, in another couple of months she will probably start her new career as a bar girl to feed the new mouth...
You have to laugh at the both the pursuit of women and the women we find. The highlight of the trip will be the girl who loves to be on cam (with me). Shows me the "pink" follows my every cam command, including inserting various objects, has promised to meet me in school uniform (shes 25, works in a bank). And hasnt had it for almost 3 years.
Yeah its a hoot to think back at the antics & capers we get up to ;)
Mmm this girl sounds very naughty FF! Maybe she's one of WR's trainees?
Hehehe :D
AV
Hi to all,
just got back yesterday and checked into Makati late night cause my condo aint ready yet and Im on the move.
First choice was Durban Inn ,gud value for money starting 1000 p a night.., but they fully booked.
So I just cross the street and checked in at Fersall Inn, 12h and 24 H option for 1500/1900p including breakfast. clean rooms anduse of wifi all day in their rooms or down at the cafe where Im just sitting now(150p)
Room includes breakfast.
I went off the plane late and arived around 12.30 am in my place so I had a beer with my buddy at Banditos. Cost was 350p for 2 beers !!!! Hahahaha, no wonder it was empty, saw two US wanna be 50cents in there, so they played some gangsta rap, many gurls but no customers.
We decide to have another beer at Mattrix, streets were empty, some gurls approached us, but lack in the looks department, IM a chosy guy and beside of that I was dead tired and need my rest alone :D.
I also contact the Yxeslhady by txt and meet her some time laters cause I have to adjust first and take care of some things, packin my things and will go to ac, cause more cheap, more value for money. Im sure I might get back to Makati to get some contact info from gurls, but gurls are evrywhere and no need to travel (hate traffic hehehehe)
More reports will follow, specially on AC..
Happy punting!!
Blink
Soapy Smith
03-27-08, 06:21
Ok so I'm setting up my next Manila trip. And doing my usual team selections in advance. Got some definates on the list (new and old) and some maybes. Was talking to a maybe yesterday, lives in Quezon City which as the crow flies is exactly 14-20 kms from Makati depending what part of QC.
So heres a girl with some nice pics, great English, fun chat. And she says. " Sir I am happy to meet you in Makati but I'm not familiar with the place. I don't know if I will lbe safe there and I don't know how to get there". Guess we can cross her off the list. Obviously not a well travelled gal. Haha.Strange as it seems, I think AV's characterization may be correct. One Metro Manila Filipino once explained to me that Makati is sort of like Beverly Hills to most Filipinos. It's the financial district where everybody is presumed to be rich, and that makes it seem exotic and threatening to those from other enclaves.
Wicked Roger
03-27-08, 21:14
Hi to all,
I also contact the Yxeslhady by txt and meet her some time laters cause
Blink
Blink
You lucky bastard :D Say hi to Xl lady from me, am sure she will remember me ;)
Now, culturally, I think its a little unlikely these two cousins will fulfill their end of the bargain even if they are both BG's. In my experience usually cousins/best friends are too shy to do threesomes but Im very tempted to give it a go...
Any of our veteran mongers have advice about this?
Yxeslhady what do you think?
AmavidaHi Amavida,
Im agreed of what WR and FF says, but the best of all, better to meet with me and let me arranged that for you! ill assure you you have a wonderfull and great experience.
See you soon.
I also contact the Yxeslhady by txt and meet her some time laters
BlinkHi Blink,
Thank you for texting me and ill assure you when we meet with some of my friend you always have a wonderfull smile everyday. You will be the next happy and a lucky man to FF and WR.
See you soon.
Hi Amavida,
Im agreed of what WR and FF says, but the best of all, better to meet with me and let me arranged that for you! ill assure you you have a wonderfull and great experience.
See you soon.
Thanks so much Y, I'll be in touch when Im in Makati next.
I'll PM you my contact details.
Take care!
AV
At first read, I think AV's advice was good (wow, now that's a first!), but what is it that provokes FF to "cross" her off the list?
FF stated "my next Manila trip", so surely he would realize that "as the crow flies" is a very unusual way to measure distances in Manila.
Since AV has good advice, I won't add anything, especially since a short rtff would suffice.
X
Ok so I'm setting up my next Manila trip. And doing my usual team selections in advance. Got some definates on the list (new and old) and some maybes. Was talking to a maybe yesterday, lives in Quezon City which as the crow flies is exactly 14-20 kms from Makati depending what part of QC.
So heres a girl with some nice pics, great English, fun chat. And she says. " Sir I am happy to meet you in Makati but I'm not familiar with the place. I don't know if I will lbe safe there and I don't know how to get there". Guess we can cross her off the list. Obviously not a well travelled gal. Haha.
Hi fellow mongers, after living in Europe and the US for a few years I am happy to be back in Asia. Just hit the ground in Manila and want to get back into the mongering scene.
I am looking for a good outcall service or a nice place within reach of the Intercon in Makati where I can pick up some pros/freelancers.
I would appreciate your help and suggestions. If anyone is interested to go hunting together, I would be open to that as well.
Member #2718
03-29-08, 18:18
Hi fellow mongers, after living in Europe and the US for a few years I am happy to be back in Asia. Just hit the ground in Manila and want to get back into the mongering scene.
I am looking for a good outcall service or a nice place within reach of the Intercon in Makati where I can pick up some pros/freelancers.
I would appreciate your help and suggestions. If anyone is interested to go hunting together, I would be open to that as well.
Try walking through Glorietta Mall which is right next to the Intercon, then keep going until you hit Greenbelt Mall on the other side of Glorietta. You should find something of intrest if you just hang around the food court area or Star Bucks.
Works for me everytime ;-)
Wicked Roger
03-29-08, 19:20
Try walking through Glorietta Mall which is right next to the Intercon, then keep going until you hit Greenbelt Mall on the other side of Glorietta. You should find something of intrest if you just hang around the food court area or Star Bucks.
Works for me everytime ;-)
And for me get some nice freebies in Greenbelt and Glorietta, I hang around Bo's Coffee always a few cuites walk by
Gentleman - I have PMed you also
Try walking through Glorietta Mall which is right next to the Intercon, then keep going until you hit Greenbelt Mall on the other side of Glorietta. You should find something of intrest if you just hang around the food court area or Star Bucks.
Works for me everytime ;-)
Yep this is good advice. best time of the day in malls is 4pm. Lots of naughty girls there then in the food areas. Just stand still, they will walk past give you the eye & even give you a cheeky greeting.
Escort services are overpriced rip off. Forget them.
You could easily pop into the bars of P Burgos St and get some phone numbers. No need to pay the ridiculous bar fines asked there (P3000 + P3000 or some such nonsense).
AV
Fifty Fifty
03-30-08, 10:28
Hi Blink,
Thank you for texting me and ill assure you when we meet with some of my friend you always have a wonderfull smile everyday. You will be the next happy and a lucky man to FF and WR.
See you soon.
Just to make sure that FreebieFan doesnt think somebody is talking about him LOL. The FF that the lady is referring to is none other than ME !!
Fifty Fifty
Fifty Fifty
03-30-08, 10:31
I am looking for a good outcall service or a nice place within reach of the Intercon in Makati where I can pick up some pros/freelancers.
Here is some more advice - RTFF
Recent posts by myself and many others give fairly explicit details where to find exactly what you may be looking for - remember YMMV
Cheers, F/Fifty
FreebieFan
03-31-08, 02:32
Well for a moment when I've been reading this was hoping some hot woman would call me up. Then read on and realised is was the "other" FF.
Great reports by the way Mr 50 x 2.
Anyways was in Manila myself this weekend. Had a ball. And my trip report will be posted soon. And of course. They were all free!
FreebieFan
03-31-08, 07:14
Ok so managed to swing a weekend in Manila. A city I'm totally familiar with and one I always enjoy visiting. Where I live, people can be conservative and not so involved with eye contact. But in Manila I always love that people look at you, you smile. They smile and from there its up to you.
Anyways to the details.
Had arranged for an 18 year old to meet me soon after my arrival to get some runs on the board. Poor girl wasnt tha familiar with Makati so told her would give her taxi money.
In meantime it allowed me to go through all the phone numbers id got recently from various web sites and send our exploring sms.
Girl arrived and heres the kicker. She was pregnant. A bit, not too large, but pregnant. She had told me and I wasnt sure about going with a pregnant girl but it wasnt a problem. She was young happy and within 2 mins of arrival. My hand is on her leg and off we go.
Get to sogo, and she was really a cutie out of the clothes and could imagine that she would be very good with no small baby ball. Will put her on hold till shes delivered in a few more months.
Gave her taxi money home and a small amount to help with delivery and that was that.
Anyways dropped her off and off to Burgos. Normal nights drinking followed. Next day was out scouting in my local mall. And took a gal I knew from Friendster for coffee. And a drive. I always love getting them in the car as then I know if they will resist my evil intentions or not.
This one was clearly a little shy but I love a challenge. So hand on leg. Slowly up to pussy. On boobs etc. Just driving round. And shes getting warm. Unfortunately I'm gettting late so we agreed to meet again.
I left and went to find another Frienster girl. Shes been giving me a great webcam show for past few weeks. Always showing me the "pink"
Shes a normal gal, works in a bank, but obviously hot, won't go with a Filipino guy, not much opportunity to find a nice handsome guy like me etc. Hahahah
Well I pick her up at her bank, she looks happy, little shy but we both knew we were going to Sogo. And we did. And spent blissful 4 hours there.
She was highly dissapointed when I told her we werent spending the night together. Threw a little fit in fact. Anyways calmed down with a promise of more sex to follow. And then off out to Burgos again for drinking. Glad to see Enchanted Room has made a comeback in old disco site near Rogues. They always had great girls there in its old location. Which after a fire 4 years ago is finally being demolished. Lets see what goes up there now.
Saturday am. Drove over to Manila to go see a new cutie. Unfortunately within about 5 minutes of getting in my car she told me period had started, she had that drained face look normal with gals in period. So I knew that wouldn't work. Just wish she had told me before I spent 45 mins driving over there. Back to pick up the bank girl. Off to Sogo and another 4 hours of truly draining sex. She told me she came 6 times.
And off to Burgos. For normal drinking groping fun.
Next day. I was hoping I had got a choice between 3 freebies. At least that what I thought when I drunkenly went to bed. Alas in the bright light of the morning, one couldn't make it, one felt guilty as her bf was overseas, one had a new bf, etc. Tried some older numbers. And one was out of town, one had changed numbers ENOUGH. I knew it was that sort of day.
So went to local mall aimlessly as hangover was quite bad.
Walked past a jeans store and I get a big smile from a very nice one. Walked back past it. Get bigger smile. Walked in. Say Hi she smiles, ask her name etc. 21 and nicely packaged. I pretend to look at jeans but were both smiling. Temps rising. Get her phone number just like that. Try on jeans but don't like and ask her what times lunch. She tells me 12. I wait till 12. Pick her up. Have quick lunch. Then off for car ride. 5 mins into the ride I get to touch nipples and after 20 can touch a little pussy hair. Shes smiling all the time and she tells me its first time a customer of shop has taken her for lunch. So my P100 lunch treat worked wonders. Anyways I don't have enough time to wait for her to finish work, but she leaves me with a big kiss and sends me sms about wanting to see me at night next trip. Yeah baby. You will. So another few days spent in Manila helping the economy. Airport was the usual zoo with long long immigration lines. Its normal. Back in a month or so.
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FreebieFan
03-31-08, 11:22
Hi there. Thanks for the comments on my earlier post but the girl not knowing Makati. I lived in Phil for 5 years so know how some don't know the street name even next to them.
But this one projected herself on her Friendster file as having travelled around Asia on numerous ocassions. Was funny that she didn't know a 15 minutes ride on LRT would take her from QC to Makati.
The pregnant one wasnt clingy in the slightest. She accepted a good time, a little money. (can't recall but less than P1000) she was happy fun and funny. Thats all. And the lady eho showed me the pink. Definately nobodies trainee. I was truly lucky to find her. Hes back working in the bank today. And no I'm not saying which one. Hahaah
FreebieFan
03-31-08, 11:28
Ok. So recently weve had lots of reports about bars near QC that were essentially Filipino bars etc.
Well this weekend I was driving to a friends place. Can't remember the road name but its the road where theres a rounabout before Domestic Airport road. Well if you go straight on that road instead of turning left to Domestic, it leads to Roxas Boulevard, but on the road. There are many cheap and cheerful bars and KTV places.
I was waiting to meet my lady friend and parked my car near one bar. Went into nearest one. About ten reasonable young girls in bikini. Private booths. Was early so only a few Filipino guys. Sat with one girl then left when my friend said she was on the way. Had a P40 beer.
Theres lots of bars. Some look dogdy. This one was fine and large and well lit. Miss World. And space for parking.
One day must go with few mates and examine all these bars. For sure theres cheap cheap cheap fun to be had. And maybe some folk who are less amenable to whites in their neighbourhood too.
The pregnant one wasnt clingy in the slightest. She accepted a good time, a little money. (can't recall but less than P1000) she was happy fun and funny. Thats all. And the lady eho showed me the pink. Definately nobodies trainee. I was truly lucky to find her. Hes back working in the bank today. And no I'm not saying which one. Hahaah
Hehe, I think thats the fun part of mongering that keeps us coming back.. the mystery of never quite knowing what you're gonna get...
Cheers FF,
AV
Hi fellow mongers,
I will be staying in Traders Hotel next week in Manila. My first trip to the Philippines. I was RTFF but could not find anything around that area.
Any mongers got a good plea to find a good pick up place? or FL?
Manila is a heaven for the mongers. Nowhere girls are so easily available and approachable. I stayed at Mandarin Oriental Hotel at Makati Avenue. There was a leaflet on top of the table where it described various kind of massage, herbal, medicinal etc. I was looking for something extra. Then I found that at the end it wrote, or you can have full body oil massage, just ask for it. So, I telephoned the massage desk and asked them to send one girl for body massage.
As usual, a masseuse came and told me to take off my clothes and lie down in the bed where she put some towels. I was happy as she told me to take off my underwear too. After taking off all my clothes, I intentionally took some more time and roam around the room to let my cock swing in the air and I was also interested to see her reaction. It was probably positive.
When she started massaging me, I was encouraging her and praising her when her hands were around my crotch or pelvic area. She smiled.
She was wearing her uniform. I told her that in Bangkok, masseuse used to take her clothes off too. She said they are beautiful, that is why they take off their clothes. I praised her and said she was beautiful to. She thanked me.
After an hour, she said she had finished her work. I said but I had finished yet and requested her to massage my prostate area. She put some more oil on my cock and started massaging that but at the same time whispered at my ear 'tips ok'. I said and hold her waist very tightly and then slipped my hand inside her slacks. She again said 'tips tips' but allowed me to go ahead. I also start rubbing her pussy and pulled down both of her slacks and panty. She screamed, smiled, and then suddenly took my cock inside her mouth. I rubbed her hip, breast, back, nipples, and thighs and put my fingers inside her pussy. She grabbed my cock with her hands and ride on that. I was lying on the bed.
After almost three hours, I paid her around US$40 for massage (for which she gave me a receipt) and a tip of US$40. She was happy. So was I.
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Those damn receptionist at the Shangri La our hot as hell. Did any of you hounds manage to bag one.
Member #4214
04-06-08, 03:31
Hi fellow mongers,
I will be staying in Traders Hotel next week in Manila. My first trip to the Philippines. I was RTFF but could not find anything around that area.
Any mongers got a good plea to find a good pick up place? or FL?I booked a room there recently at the last minute because Shangri-La prices were jacked up. Traders staff was constantly trying to upsell me. Definitely not the Shangri-La experience.
Not absolutely sure, but my impression was its not the best location for mongering. Better to get something in Makati near one of the malls. There are some club-like establishments right near the Traders, but with all the freelancers I was juggling, never had time to check them out. You can catch a taxi to anywhere, so no need worry if it is 'near. ' If you head out the front door of Traders and head to your left, you will shortly come upon those clubs I mentioned. Or you will first see them on the taxi ride from the airport to the hotel.
That was my own first trip to Manila so maybe others with more experience know better.
From Mandarin Oriental Hotel at Makati, I just walked for about five minutes straight to the Mcdonalds outlet. I found many nightclubs and bars on the both sides of the road. I choose one named lady boxing. It is definitely a bar cum nightclub with an added attraction of lady boxing in the floor. On Thursday midnight, they arrange lady wrestling as well.
I choose a convenient location to sit from where the boxing ring was close and clearly visible. All the waiters were girls. They came to know what kind of drinks I would like to take. I ordered a fruit cocktail and watched around the room. In between the boxing show, there is an arrangement for the cheerleaders to dance on the floor. There were around 20 cheerleaders and around the same number of male customers. In addition, there were some 10 lady-boxers, 2/3 mamasan, 8/9 girls and 2/3 DJs.
Immediately, my eyes were stuck to a cheerleader. Her face had an innocent look, skin was fair and smooth and body electric. I was amazed to see that her outfit was also too short. The skirt was too up that an upskirt view was visible. She was wearing a light blue thong. I tried to attract her attention but she seems to be busy otherwise. Suddenly another cheerleader came and said she wanted my friendship. I understood what she meant. I offered her a drink. She left for the ring when her turn came. Meanwhile, I have noticed that the waitress who was serving at my table was pretty and cute. Her face also had an innocent look. She was hugging one of her fellow waitress. When I smiled at them, she came to me and enquired whether I need another drink. I ordered mine but teased her by saying that she appeared to be a lesbian. She denied. I promptly proposed her that why we could not have a date. When she learnt that I was staying at Mandarin Oriental, she was impressed. She told me about her off-time and gave her phone number to me.
Interestingly, when I telephoned her and told her to come to my hotel room, she asked directly whether I had condom.
I was amazed. How could it be so easy in Manila. The plus point is the girls speak English unlike Thai, Japanese, Myanmar or Chinese girl. And they are ready to be hooked, whether they are a working girl at a club, restaurant or engaged in a clinic or secretary at an office.
The expense is also reasonable. It does not cross even a hundred bucks.
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Sounds like you had a good time. Where is this Mcdonalds outlet?
What tme did you go so I know when the shows start?
Wicked Roger
04-13-08, 13:27
I was amazed. How could it be so easy in Manila.
The expense is also reasonable. It does not cross even a hundred bucks.
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Welcome to the Philippines Anchor....it is that easy. Also Mandarin means you cash and have fat wallet - that may also impress them :D
Morepoonhound
04-14-08, 06:54
Hi Amavida,
Im agreed of what WR and FF says, but the best of all, better to meet with me and let me arranged that for you! ill assure you you have a wonderfull and great experience.
See you soon.
Gentlemen, I had not travelled to the Philippines for a couple of years - but I had the pleasure of a business trip there last week. Thanks to XLady (too hard to keep typing Yxeslhady - grin), anyway thanks to her, I had a warm welcome waiting my first night in Makati.
XLady introduced me to Dette (22) and to Dette's half-sister Rose (23 - same mother, different fathers). I always have a hard time choosing when I let my little head do the thinking, so I chose . . . both together . . . well, duh!
These two women fucked me for nearly three hours solid - sometimes one-on-one . . . sometimes double-teaming me. Wonderful! I will post more about our "date" separately. They were good sports and very fun to play with, so they were willing to continue longer. Well . . . at least they said so . . . though poor sweet Dette was already walking bow-legged (full smile).
By 1 am though, I had to stop the fun so that I wouldn't be a wreck for my 7 am breakfast meeting. Pacing, gentlemen . . . pacing . . . had to save something for the next couple of nights. What a great week!
I will post more about Rose and Dette another time, but just want to quickly put this message up first to let all the nice guys who are reading here know that XLady is for real. Contact her by PM and she will take good care of you according to your preferences.
Morepoonhound
04-17-08, 05:00
Thanks to XLady (too hard to keep typing Yxeslhady - grin), anyway thanks to her, I had a warm welcome waiting my first night in Makati.
XLady introduced me to Dette (22) and to Dette's half-sister Rose (23 - same mother, different fathers). I always have a hard time choosing when I let my little head do the thinking, so I chose . . . both together . . . well, duh!
I will post more about Rose and Dette another time, but just want to quickly put this message up first to let all the nice guys who are reading here know that XLady is for real. Contact her by PM and she will take good care of you according to your preferences.
I can't claim that I have never done business with them, but I personally detest male pimps. Nothing against the business of match-making willing buyers with willing sellers . . . just that I somehow feel that renting pussy should be a job reserved for women - whether as sole (hole ?) proprietor, or as match-maker.
So when I learned from another member here (thanks - you know who you are) that member Yxeslhady is a female who has a side hobby of match-making her friends with willing poon-purchasers, I quickly sent her a PM to ask for details. If XLady having PM facilities here sounds suspiciously commercial, well . . . it turns out that another frequent poster here kindly bought her an ISG subscription (good on you, mate - you know who you are too).
Anyway, after getting Xlady's phone number and chatting with her a bit on messenger, she organized two half-sisters to meet me at my Makati hotel, shortly after I flew in to Manila. It was late - pushing 10 pm - I had an early breakfast meeting the next day, and it was great to be able to order up poon sort of like calling for pizza-delivery. Ahhh the Philippines is brilliant!
I'm pretty skeptical about claims of sister and half-sister relationships, because I think fucking sisters either sequentially or concurrently is a relatively common male fantasy . . . and I guess that working girls would know this and use it as a marketing aid. I got to know a fair few Thai bar-girls during a time when I lived and worked in Bangkok, and when I commented on the surprising number of "sister" pairs in the business, I learned that (at least Thai) working girls use the term for their close friends - similar to African American women calling each other sistah, or men of many different nationalities (especially Tiger Beer drinkers - grin) calling each other brutha, without a remote possibility of blood-tie.
So although Dette and Rose told me several stories about their common mother - and though both encouraged me to fuck HER as well (they tell me she is 40 and still totally hot!), I frankly saw no family resemblance at all between Rose and Dette. Not that I care . . . and I know many true sisters who don't look anything like each other. I simply include this disclaimer to discourage anyone with too much time on their hands from lecturing me on the realities of marketing pussy for temporary rental.
Now about the lovely ladies. In this case, lovely has more to do with their personalities - both were truly sweet and service minded - than with their physical attributes. Dette is 22 and the mother of a young daughter. Cute gamine-type face and braces (more on that below) on her teeth. Rose is 23, also a mother, and she sports a modest c-section scar. Sweet-looking, girl-next-door look and not the high-cheek-boned vixen face that I often pick out of a gogo-bar line-up.
Both have average bodies - neither chubby nor the tight, hard-bodied deliciousness of a gym-bunny or dancer . . . just average . . . perhaps 1.57m (call it 5'2") and maybe 105 pounds with still-perky B-cup breasts and unremarkable nipples . . . just average. Ahh - one more thing. Both Dette and Rose sport a thick, lush growth of feminine fur over their tight little pussies. I don't mind that, but if you prefer shaven-havens, you would need to ask. As long as the pussy tastes fresh and feels tight, any style of hair (or not) suits me fine.
And both pussies were plenty tight - Dette's was actually too tight for a repeat performance. She was a good sport about it, but I was obviously causing her pain when I power-fucked her . . . so I kept it slow and gentle with Dette (when I didn't forget from time-to-time), and pounded Rose's pubes twice as hard as I might have otherwise. And Rose likes to be pounded deep (full smile). Truly . . . . I will fuck Rose again in a heart-beat, average body notwithstanding. That girl just likes to fuck!
Now before any of you turn off and say "not my type" . . . especially with the cornucopia of both amateur and professional spinners on offer all over Manila . . . let me just say that "I" have a favorite "physical" type too, and neither Dette nor Rose matches it. On the other hand, my "acceptable" type, especially at 10 pm on a working night, and on the basis of door-to-door delivery, has just four criteria.
1 - "has a pussy" . . . no wait . . . there's more. I mean not only has a pussy, but also one that doesn't smell nasty (this is important - grin).
2 - Willing to kiss and doesn't have dragon-breath.
3 - Isn't fat. I'm not terribly fussy about female bodies when considering "acceptable" types. Even 10 or 15 extra pounds is ok if she carries it reasonably well. Of course it's different when I'm in a hooker bar with dozens of preening poon-purveyors to choose among. But fat is always a deal-breaker for me. I "have" tried it, and I just don't like fucking fat women - even the ones that call themselves BBW's. No thank you!
4 - Will be fun to fuck. Before you ask "how do you know?", try these criteria as a proxy - has a pleasant personality during the warm-up preliminaries, likes to laugh (this is possible to guage even when you don't have a common language in common), and not too shy to get naked early on.
So repeating the point - sure I have a favorite physical type but - mostly, I just like pussy, and I will take a pleasant personality on a girl who seems like she is enthusiastic about tasting my dick as enough of a match for a fun time.
Sparing you most of the detail, both Rose and Dette joined me in the shower . . . both double-teamed me at times, with one sucking my dick while I licked the other one, or one sitting on my face while the other one played ride-a-cock-horse. Very fun! They insisted that I change condoms each time I changed pussies (fair enough), and neither of them was into girl-girl. On the other hand, neither of them so much as blinked when I would kiss one of them after getting the other's pussy all over my tongue and lips.
Rose was the better fuck by far, but Dette gave an outstanding blow-job, all velvet lips and just the right amount of pressure. And she went deep. Who'd have guessed it from her braces, and I was honestly kinda nervous about that at first.
I'm a pretty fit guy, and between my tongue and my dick, I was able to go non-stop for three hours. Rose was up for it; Dette was plainly glad for a break from time-to-time while I would go one-to-one with Rose. But give Dette credit - even though my dick was plainly too big for her - every time I would call across the bed to her and say "You're next" with a big smile, she would tear open a fresh condom and come right over. Never any whining or complaining. Really a sweet girl. Rose was also sweet and a much more aggressive fuck - totally into it all the way. Thoughout the evening, both were full of jokes and laughter - really a fun date for me.
Side comment about my dick - I'm not that big; maybe 7 inches and maybe a bit thicker than average - but Dette went on at length about never having had to put one my size into her before. So I won't see Dette again for sex, but I have absolutely no complaints and I recommend both Dette and Rose to any of you who don't always insist on the hottest girl in the bar.
Overall rating . . . face and body - 6+ or maybe 7 with make-up . . . personalities - 8 . . . service orientation 9.
So by all means get in touch with XLady, gentlemen. I know that at least a couple of regular posters here have tried other girls she knows, including 18-20 year-olds. So if you don't like the sound of my experiences with Dette and Rose, ask to see someone else. Worst case, you have a nice conversation. XLady - if you're reading this, please give a kiss to both Dette and Rose for me. Sign me very happy to have met them!
Soapy Smith
04-17-08, 06:57
So by all means get in touch with XLady, gentlemen. I know that at least a couple of regular posters here have tried other girls she knows, including 18-20 year-olds. So if you don't like the sound of my experiences with Dette and Rose, ask to see someone else. Worst case, you have a nice conversation. XLady - if you're reading this, please give a kiss to both Dette and Rose for me. Sign me very happy to have met them!MPH, nice report. You make this sound very sensible and appealing. We look forward to more reports. Don't suppose you'd be willing to post any details about price or via pm?
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...Now about the lovely ladies. In this case, lovely has more to do with their personalities - both were truly sweet and service minded - than with their physical attributes. Dette is 22 and the mother of a young daughter. Cute gamine-type face and braces (more on that below) on her teeth. Rose is 23, also a mother, and she sports a modest c-section scar. Sweet-looking, girl-next-door look and not the high-cheek-boned vixen face that I often pick out of a gogo-bar line-up.
Both have average bodies - neither chubby nor the tight, hard-bodied deliciousness of a gym-bunny or dancer . . . just average . . . perhaps 1.57m (call it 5'2") and maybe 105 pounds with still-perky B-cup breasts and unremarkable nipples . . . just average. Ahh - one more thing. Both Dette and Rose sport a thick, lush growth of feminine fur over their tight little pussies. I don't mind that, but if you prefer shaven-havens, you would need to ask. As long as the pussy tastes fresh and feels tight, any style of hair (or not) suits me fine.
And both pussies were plenty tight - Dette's was actually too tight for a repeat performance. She was a good sport about it, but I was obviously causing her pain when I power-fucked her . . . so I kept it slow and gentle with Dette (when I didn't forget from time-to-time), and pounded Rose's pubes twice as hard as I might have otherwise. And Rose likes to be pounded deep (full smile). Truly . . . . I will fuck Rose again in a heart-beat, average body notwithstanding. That girl just likes to fuck!
Overall rating . . . face and body - 6+ or maybe 7 with make-up . . . personalities - 8 . . . service orientation 9.
So by all means get in touch with XLady, gentlemen. I know that at least a couple of regular posters here have tried other girls she knows, including 18-20 year-olds. So if you don't like the sound of my experiences with Dette and Rose, ask to see someone else. Worst case, you have a nice conversation. XLady - if you're reading this, please give a kiss to both Dette and Rose for me. Sign me very happy to have met them!Hi MPH! Thanks so much for sharing this entertaining & informative report. you sound like a man after my own heart.
Happy hunting!
AV
Wicked Roger
04-17-08, 13:21
Ahh - one more thing. Both Dette and Rose sport a thick, lush growth of feminine fur over their tight little pussies. I don't mind that, but if you prefer shaven-havens, you would need to ask. As long as the pussy tastes fresh and feels tight, any style of hair (or not) suits me fine.
And both pussies were plenty tight - Dette's was actually too tight for a repeat performance. XLady - if you're reading this, please give a kiss to both Dette and Rose for me. Sign me very happy to have met them!
Nice FR and a good description.
Both will shave trust me ;) And they are nice and tight even second time round...
Glad you had fun I will when am back there very soon :D
Cunning Stunt
04-17-08, 14:04
Side comment about my dick - I'm not that big; maybe 7 inches and maybe a bit thicker than average - but Dette went on at length about never having had to put one my size into her before. So I won't see Dette again for sex, but I have absolutely no complaints and I recommend both Dette and Rose to any of you who don't always insist on the hottest girl in the bar.Nice report MPH. I think that most Filipina's are hot and up for it, the secret is in finding the right key and you can unlock a box full of delights, as you obviously did. As a matter of interest did Dette do the measuring trick a la http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=731847&postcount=1284?
You never mentioned price. I take it you are being discrete and I respect that but it would be interesting to have an idea of how it measures up to the standard st rate (which I guess would be 1.5 - 2T pesos per girl).
Morepoonhound
04-18-08, 01:02
You never mentioned price. I take it you are being discrete and I respect that but it would be interesting to have an idea of how it measures up to the standard st rate (which I guess would be 1.5 - 2T pesos per girl).
I gave each woman 2 thousand peso's, and then another 500 each for their babies, separately. I didn't want to offend them by saying "for baby" in case every peso was headed that direction anyway - recall that they are both young mothers - so I simply said "for taxi".
Neither woman ever said a word about how much to pay, but it just seemed right to me to pay over the odds for several reasons. One, I stayed in a 5-star hotel; two, they both fucked like troopers for three solid hours in every imaginable position with absolutely no whining or moaning (grin). Three, I used to wait tables - I believe strongly in tipping extra for good service.
I'm sure that I could have paid just two thousand each without complaint. The extra just felt like the right thing to do. Maybe I could have gotten away with 1500 each - but most likely some long faces would have resulted, and when I am well-taken care of, I like my partners to feel happy also.
2500 is actually the most I've ever paid in Manila - even back in the days when the exchange rate was 54 pesos to each US Dollar. But I'm just as happy to give top-price to average girls with great service (who are pleasantly surprised), as to great-looking girls (who expect top price - no matter what sort of service they deliver).
More than one right answer to this situation. Anyone reading this who feels that I over-paid is entitled to their opinion, of course.
...I'm sure that I could have paid just two thousand each without complaint. The extra just felt like the right thing to do. Maybe I could have gotten away with 1500 each - but most likely some long faces would have resulted, and when I am well-taken care of, I like my partners to feel happy also. Im hip to this MPH, I would have done the same thing in this situation. Im a great believer in not ruining it for the next guy.
You have made sure that the next guy hopefully meets two happy enthusiastic girls instead of burnt out resentful girls. Good on ya MPH!
When girls meet too many cheapskates & mean barstard's the girls lose that magical fun factor that they exude. Guys that throw money around for ego are just as bad as cheapskates, they to ruin things, making the girls lazy by throwing absolutely stupid sums around.
Cheers
AV
I stayed there early 07 and they had policy no guest (girls) after midnight. Any of you guys stayed there lately?
Muc Stranger
04-19-08, 14:51
Hi all,
First many thanks for the great infos on the ISG and many thanks also to WR for replying of my PM to him.
Just come back from a long trip in SEA, with 10 days in Manila. Immigration at the Airport is really terrible, luckly can have the room in Renaissance, very comfortable and friendly staffs.
Due of very tight schedule, can't have so much relaxing (cant contact also Dette, so a pitty!!!). Just went to Havanna cafe late evening and try to flirting with the waitresses there, no success.
Chit chat with a group of 3 young ladies. One of them was feeling not well, but the another two asked for threesome. To tired and affraid cannot make them happy, so try them in 2 different sessions (overnight). Very good GFE with one, maybe becoz of good chemical feeling to one of them (Pean, 26yo, quite shy but tell me at beginning, that she is student and have one son of 3), so that call her again for a over9 meeting before flying out. The other young lady was also good too. Can PM me if for the contact number.
Just a short report. Sorry for my bad english ;-)
Take care sis and bros
MucStranger
Hey guys, so I've been in Makati for over a week now and have somehow resisted the temptations that surround me daily. The working girls everywhere trying to get your 'white' money. Even in the hotel lobby at Shangri La.
I am with a friend from US who is married and trying to stay faithful to his wife. I respect that being engaged myself but I definately want to try the local services here before I leave.
So far I have only had one happy ending from the hotel masseuse and went to East Asia strip club where they proceeded to charge us 500P entry and wanted another 2000P to enter the VIP room with a girl for 2 hours and kiss and grope her. Somehow I thought that was a bit overpriced so declined and had a few beers while enjoying the show.
We also found ourselves in a local WRX taxi that took us to a very shady area and ushered us through a few steel doors (my friend was scared to even leave the taxi, he thought we were going to be bashed). Through the doors was wide selection of 30+ beautiful girls that could be taken out all night for 4000P. Still too much for my liking, the pimp asked us what we wanted to pay but we didnt give him a counter offer and decided to head off.
So guys, given that the only chance I get to try anything is when my friend is sleeping can you please PM me some contact details of good quality girls. Pics would be great also.
Thanks
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Hey guys, so I've been in Makati for over a week now and have somehow resisted the temptations that surround me daily. The working girls everywhere trying to get your 'white' money. Even in the hotel lobby at Shangri La.
I am with a friend from US who is married and trying to stay faithful to his wife. I respect that being engaged myself but I definately want to try the local services here before I leave.
So far I have only had one happy ending from the hotel masseuse and went to East Asia strip club where they proceeded to charge us 500P entry and wanted another 2000P to enter the VIP room with a girl for 2 hours and kiss and grope her. Somehow I thought that was a bit overpriced so declined and had a few beers while enjoying the show.
We also found ourselves in a local WRX taxi that took us to a very shady area and ushered us through a few steel doors (my friend was scared to even leave the taxi, he thought we were going to be bashed). Through the doors was wide selection of 30+ beautiful girls that could be taken out all night for 4000P. Still too much for my liking, the pimp asked us what we wanted to pay but we didnt give him a counter offer and decided to head off.
So guys, given that the only chance I get to try anything is when my friend is sleeping can you please PM me some contact details of good quality girls. Pics would be great also.
Thanks
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.ROD? WTF?
Hello & welcome Datyman, Gotta try a little harder than this mate!
There is ample info right here in the Makati & Manila threads to get you started.
BTW nobody here is gonna pimp women to you. We are consumers not providers hehehe :)
AV
Fifty Fifty
04-25-08, 05:21
So guys, given that the only chance I get to try anything is when my friend is sleeping can you please PM me some contact details of good quality girls.
The only chance....When your friend is sleeping.........?
From your ROD (WTF??) it reads like you are both Pussy Hunting, if not, then why are you and your mate asking Taxi Drivers to take you to such places.
It seems that you have RTFF as you are aware of prices etc, yet none of the other info appears to have been digested......??? Open your eyes, the pussy is on your doorstep, just open the door (wallet) and let it in.
Agree with AV; no respectful Member should Pimp for an unknown newbie, sorry.
As for a ROD, my theory:
New Member + Report (or request) over 250 words = Auto ROD ?
Cheers, F/Fifty
FreebieFan
04-26-08, 05:05
Was chatting with a gal who I know form DIA and some other chat sites. 5ft barely. 88 pounds. We all know the type. Single mom of course!
Said she met a chatmate on Wednesday night. Didn't want to go with him as he was bad tempered but eventually she did. Said she went back to room with him but he couldn't get it up. So she just slept and left in the morning. Said he was staying in New World Renaissance hotel in Grenbelt.
So just as we have our site here remember gals are chatting about us and our games as well.
Didn't want to go with him as he was bad tempered but eventually she did. Said she went back to room with him but he couldn't get it up... Said he was staying in New World Renaissance hotel in Grenbelt.G'day FF! You know a wicked thought just went through my head in answer to your question.. but i dare not say it :)
Maybe he ran out of Vitamin V or C? Even us younger guys need a little help when we are having an unnatural amount of sex in a short period of time.
A quick thread search out of curiosity was no help.
Maybe I should leave this alone in case Im embarrassing one of our members.
AV
Cunning Stunt
04-26-08, 11:13
G'day FF! You know a wicked thought just went through my head in answer to your question.. but i dare not say it :)
Maybe I should leave this alone in case Im embarrassing one of our members.
AVOh you naughty boy, slap wrist, you should be well ashamed of yourself.
Don't think we have any bad tempered members on this board .. do we? :D
I wonder if DIA girls have their own board on which they discuss us?
GH
FreebieFan
04-29-08, 03:44
Last weekend managed to snare a whole day in Makati en route to Mid East. And tho I have a preference for freebies, I opted this time to help a lady fly from Cebu so she could spend day with me. Not my normal MO but she was sweet enough to pay half. So it still constututed a freebie in my books. And she was the normal 5ft 42 kg hottie. Great 24 hours.
But got me to thinking that all my successes/excesses are all about 25-26-27 in age range.
Theres a Jakarta hottie who comes with me on some bus trips. Exactly 26. Theres about 4 Manila freebies. All in that age range. Theres 3 in HK. Also 26-28. Must be a perfect mix of my advancing years (I'm over 50) and there need for joy without a coy immature permanently hrd 21 year old trying to invade their panties. Anyways. Was just a random thought.
Hi Mongers,
Long time no posts here in ISG.
Thank you so much to you MPH and Marty.
And especially Wickedroger.
I just want you to share my photos and my friend jency.
You can asked my information to WICKEDROGER.
Anyone would like to meet me and some of my friend just PM me.
Enjoy!
Hi Mongers,
Long time no posts here in ISG.
Thank you so much to you MPH and Marty.
And especially Wickedroger.
I just want you to share my photos and my friend jency.
You can asked my information to WICKEDROGER.
Anyone would like to meet me and some of my friend just PM me.
Enjoy!
nice pictures, now I know ur fren Jency...any discount for hunsome guys? :D
Well, when Im not so busy any more I will come back to you, for sure, but as of now Im busy in ac..but who knows....
Thanks again for your neverending attempt to introduce me to your friends and thanks for not calling us losers, just mongers, hehehehe...
Puuuhh!! its so hot now....I need more beer na beer!!
Hmm, so what has this all to do with the makati section? LOL, not sure :D
Happy weekend all
Blink :)
Morepoonhound
05-03-08, 10:27
nice pictures, now i know ur fren jency...
thanks again for your neverending attempt to introduce me to your friends
hmm, so what has this all to do with the makati section? lol, not sure :d
blink :)
i guess x-lady could look after you where-ever you stay in metro-manila, if you give her enough notice. but "very" quickly after i called x-lady, the lovelies dette and rose turned up knocking on my makati-area hotel room door. they came even faster than pizza delivery, and their pussies were lots more fun and nutritious/delicious to eat than pizza. how does the saying go - "tastes great . . . less filling"? (grin)
maybe these pics of jency and dette should have gone to the photo-thread. on the other hand, since i posted in the makati thread (april 16'th) about my 3some with dette and rose, maybe it made sense to x-lady to post in makati, where her service is speedy and special. hope that helps . . .
MrWoolyBooly
05-03-08, 14:06
Before flaming, I did RTFF. I enjoy looking for value-priced gems as much as any of us and spend 90% of my time on such. But if I am willing to splurge on splooge on occasion (5K-10K), can anybody recommend a place in Makati or delivery site with most consistent great service hot hotties? If physical site, please post. If web site, please PM me.
I've only posted info on other part of the world, but can't wait to visit the Philippines!
Before flaming, I did RTFF. I enjoy looking for value-priced gems as much as any of us and spend 90% of my time on such. But if I am willing to splurge on splooge on occasion (5K-10K), can anybody recommend a place in Makati or delivery site with most consistent great service hot hotties? If physical site, please post. If web site, please PM me.
I've only posted info on other part of the world, but can't wait to visit the Philippines!Hello there Mr. WoolyBooly! :) It makes me giggle everytime i say your screen name hehehe :)
I must point out that as everywhere else in the world - LOOKS are no guarantee of SERVICE.
If you want really top of the line looking units & are prepared to pay for it then follow the money. The best looking pussy goes to the east asian patrons eg Japan & Korea. The expensive bars on P.Burgos can help you empty your wallet. The bars in the most expensive Hotels in Manila have top of the the line FL's/Semi pro's. The Quezon city KTV's that cater to east asian patrons likewise have superb stock on display.
Trouble is, if you dont look asian you may find the women declining your offers of BF.
The nice thing about the Phils is you can find pretty & sexy girls just anywhere, you don't need to go silly with money.
Cheers
AV
MrWoolyBooly
05-04-08, 15:56
Hello there Mr. WoolyBooly! :) It makes me giggle everytime i say your screen name hehehe :)
I must point out that as everywhere else in the world - LOOKS are no guarantee of SERVICE.
If you want really top of the line looking units & are prepared to pay for it then follow the money. The best looking pussy goes to the east asian patrons eg Japan & Korea. The expensive bars on P.Burgos can help you empty your wallet. The bars in the most expensive Hotels in Manila have top of the the line FL's/Semi pro's. The Quezon city KTV's that cater to east asian patrons likewise have superb stock on display.
Trouble is, if you dont look asian you may find the women declining your offers of BF.
The nice thing about the Phils is you can find pretty & sexy girls just anywhere, you don't need to go silly with money.
Cheers,
AVI agree with you completely on the Looks vs Service. It's only occasionally that I wanna nail the eye candy for ego's sake. It does have a thrill all its own. I'm most definitely not the kind of guy who throws money around unnecessarily! I'll report back soon on the eye candy mission, and then spend the rest of my time finding the bargain gems.
Before flaming, I did RTFF. I enjoy looking for value-priced gems as much as any of us and spend 90% of my time on such. But if I am willing to splurge on splooge on occasion (5K-10K), can anybody recommend a place in Makati or delivery site with most consistent great service hot hotties? If physical site, please post. If web site, please PM me.Hi Wizard,
Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.
There are many places to go within a 20 minute drive of Makati:
EDSA entertainment complex, this is a large building with 8-12 different clubs in it. The women all wear bikinis/bra & panties and dance on a stage for your review. There is every size, shape and range of woman a man could want here. Typical barfine is 12-1400 pesos. The woman will ask for a tip at the end of the evening. It is common to tip based on performance. In my opinion this is the best value in the Manila area. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Roxas Blvd, this is a street with 10-12 different clubs. The concensus seems to be the best (and most expensive) is East Asia entertainment. Most of these clubs tend to cater to Asian clients. For further info when speaking of Asian mongers, think people who overpay, overindulge and don’t expect much of a performance from the girl. Barfines here start at 3500 pesos and go up depending on how gullible the mamasan thinks you are. Of course the girl will expect a tip after the deed. In my opinion this is the worst place to go in Manila. Beware cab drivers will try very hard to bring you here rather than EDSA as they are very close to each other. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Burgos Street, this is a street in Makati with 15-20 different clubs on it. Each club has its own theme and quality of girl. The clubs generally are very good and friendly. There are two different groups that own all of the clubs on Burgos St. One group owns 80% of the clubs and there barfines are 3500 pesos. The other group owns only 4 clubs and there barfines are 22-2400 pesos. The best of these clubs is Flamingo. Once again you can find every variety of woman on this street that your heart desires. Of course you will be asked for a tip in addition to the barfine. In my opinion Burgos is a street that everyone should visit once. Go early around 8-9 pm and hit several of the clubs and make an evening of it. My personal favorite is to go to the Billboard club and watch the women do their dance routine. It is truly fabulous almost on par with a Vegas show, with the added element that alot of the women are there for the taking. In my opinion some of the most beautiful women work in this club. Of course they will expect to be tipped very well. The bad news is these women get paid pretty well just to dance and aren’t that motivated to get barfined, translation they are probably lousy in bed. 3 minute drive within Makati.
Havana Café is a bar located in the Greenbelt mall of Makati. This is strictly a free lancer bar. There are no barfines and no mamasans to do the leg work for you. On any given night it is a paradise or a desert. The bar is very good with a live band that plays good salsa music. The bar serves good food and reasonably priced drinks. Many of the women will come on to you and give you the “nod” that they are interested in you. If you see someone you are attracted to you will have to walk up and “open” with them. If they are interested they will usually invite you to join them within 3 minutes. It is understood that once you join them you are buying until you either leave with them or move to a different location in the bar without them. On rare occasions non-working girls do stop into this club because they like the music. So if you have been with a girl for 15-30 mins and she has not rubbed your hand or your leg and told you how handsome you are than you definitely have to find a tactful way to bring up the subject of her spending the night with you. Typical tips range from 15-3000 pesos. 3 min cab ride from anywhere in Makati.
L.A. Café is another freelancer club. It is located in Malate/Ermita area which is a 20 min drive from Makati depending on the time of day. This is one of the most popular and crowded pick up places in Manila. It is open 24 hours a day and is always happening. I went there a couple of weeks ago at 9 am and there was easily 100 women in there. The best time for the most quality women is in the evening between 8 pm and midnight. During peak time there is easily 300 women there. In the evening they have a very good live band upstairs which draws a huge crowd. There are a lot of mongers there playing pool and it is easy to find a wing man to “run your game with.” In my opinion I hate this place because that part of town is dirty and full of beggars and thieves. On several occasions I have run across scammer chicks who think they are too hot to have sex and still expect to be paid! But most people who go there rave about the place and for good reason there are tons of beautiful young women there 24 hours a day. These women can be had for as cheap as 1000 pesos. Please ask the advice of others as I am not the best source of info on this club.
Take away drive up joints. These are generally non-noticeable houses that you could never tell exist. The only way to find them is ask a taxi driver to take you there. Makati is littered with them. When you find a taxi driver with info on one of these he will bring you to a nondescript entrance, you go into a large room with several women sitting around in their underwear. Sometimes there are as many as 40-50 women in these places. They will simply stand there and smile at you. You make your pick and off you go to your hotel. I have seen truly beautiful young women here as well as fat, ugly old ladies. It is a crap shoot. The prices will vary anywhere from 1000-3500 pesos.
Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.
Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.
Blackangst
05-07-08, 21:08
Hi Wizard,
Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.
There are many places to go within a 20 minute drive of Makati:
EDSA entertainment complex, this is a large building with 8-12 different clubs in it. The women all wear bikinis/bra & panties and dance on a stage for your review. There is every size, shape and range of woman a man could want here. Typical barfine is 12-1400 pesos. The woman will ask for a tip at the end of the evening. It is common to tip based on performance. In my opinion this is the best value in the Manila area. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Roxas Blvd, this is a street with 10-12 different clubs. The concensus seems to be the best (and most expensive) is East Asia entertainment. Most of these clubs tend to cater to Asian clients. For further info when speaking of Asian mongers, think people who overpay, overindulge and don’t expect much of a performance from the girl. Barfines here start at 3500 pesos and go up depending on how gullible the mamasan thinks you are. Of course the girl will expect a tip after the deed. In my opinion this is the worst place to go in Manila. Beware cab drivers will try very hard to bring you here rather than EDSA as they are very close to each other. 15-20 minute drive from Makati.
Burgos Street, this is a street in Makati with 15-20 different clubs on it. Each club has its own theme and quality of girl. The clubs generally are very good and friendly. There are two different groups that own all of the clubs on Burgos St. One group owns 80% of the clubs and there barfines are 3500 pesos. The other group owns only 4 clubs and there barfines are 22-2400 pesos. The best of these clubs is Flamingo. Once again you can find every variety of woman on this street that your heart desires. Of course you will be asked for a tip in addition to the barfine. In my opinion Burgos is a street that everyone should visit once. Go early around 8-9 pm and hit several of the clubs and make an evening of it. My personal favorite is to go to the Billboard club and watch the women do their dance routine. It is truly fabulous almost on par with a Vegas show, with the added element that alot of the women are there for the taking. In my opinion some of the most beautiful women work in this club. Of course they will expect to be tipped very well. The bad news is these women get paid pretty well just to dance and aren’t that motivated to get barfined, translation they are probably lousy in bed. 3 minute drive within Makati.
Havana Café is a bar located in the Greenbelt mall of Makati. This is strictly a free lancer bar. There are no barfines and no mamasans to do the leg work for you. On any given night it is a paradise or a desert. The bar is very good with a live band that plays good salsa music. The bar serves good food and reasonably priced drinks. Many of the women will come on to you and give you the “nod” that they are interested in you. If you see someone you are attracted to you will have to walk up and “open” with them. If they are interested they will usually invite you to join them within 3 minutes. It is understood that once you join them you are buying until you either leave with them or move to a different location in the bar without them. On rare occasions non-working girls do stop into this club because they like the music. So if you have been with a girl for 15-30 mins and she has not rubbed your hand or your leg and told you how handsome you are than you definitely have to find a tactful way to bring up the subject of her spending the night with you. Typical tips range from 15-3000 pesos. 3 min cab ride from anywhere in Makati.
L.A. Café is another freelancer club. It is located in Malate/Ermita area which is a 20 min drive from Makati depending on the time of day. This is one of the most popular and crowded pick up places in Manila. It is open 24 hours a day and is always happening. I went there a couple of weeks ago at 9 am and there was easily 100 women in there. The best time for the most quality women is in the evening between 8 pm and midnight. During peak time there is easily 300 women there. In the evening they have a very good live band upstairs which draws a huge crowd. There are a lot of mongers there playing pool and it is easy to find a wing man to “run your game with.” In my opinion I hate this place because that part of town is dirty and full of beggars and thieves. On several occasions I have run across scammer chicks who think they are too hot to have sex and still expect to be paid! But most people who go there rave about the place and for good reason there are tons of beautiful young women there 24 hours a day. These women can be had for as cheap as 1000 pesos. Please ask the advice of others as I am not the best source of info on this club.
Take away drive up joints. These are generally non-noticeable houses that you could never tell exist. The only way to find them is ask a taxi driver to take you there. Makati is littered with them. When you find a taxi driver with info on one of these he will bring you to a nondescript entrance, you go into a large room with several women sitting around in their underwear. Sometimes there are as many as 40-50 women in these places. They will simply stand there and smile at you. You make your pick and off you go to your hotel. I have seen truly beautiful young women here as well as fat, ugly old ladies. It is a crap shoot. The prices will vary anywhere from 1000-3500 pesos.
Some rules to keep in mind with all of these places. Always chose a girl you have a real deep connection with. Lets face it you can only bang for so long. So in between pops it is nice to have some good company and be pampered a little bit. If you feel the girl is only going with you for the money, dump her and find the girl who convinces you she is truly in love with you. The whole point of going to the “PI” is to get a girl you could never get back home and be treated the way you could never be treated by a white woman. A good rule of thumb when you start out is to find a girl you think you could never get and watch how soon she is hanging all over you. That’s when you know you found the right girl. Always discuss everything up front. If you want her to stay all night, specify a time in the morning you want her to leave. Ask what her expectations ($$) are for this amount of time. If you want something more than a bj and lay you had better discuss this upfront. If you are going to take 2 girls make sure they know if you want them to eat each other or both have sex with you rather than just one…..etc.
Good luck and good hunting. And you must post great pics as payment for this valuable info!
EDITOR'S NOTE: I would suggest that the author or another Forum Member consider posting a link to this report in the Reports of Distinction thread. Please Click Here (http://www.internationalsexguide.info/forum/announcement-reportsofdistinction.php?) for more information.Sticky! Hehe
I think, in my experience, this is a pretty good outline. I would say though EDSA has about the best Manila has to offer. The thing about Manila as opposed to AC, is. AC the stunner to average or lower ratio is about 20%. In EDSA or Burgos, it's about 60-70%. So, although the sheer number of girls is less, the stunner ratio makes up for it. Just my opinion.
I would also like to add something not alot of guys comment on-dress. I made this comment in another thread, but the better you dress, the higher quality of girl you will attract. I see most guys (in BF bars and FL bars) dress failry shoddy. Flip flops, tank top, and shorts. Yeah, its more comfortable. I recommend business casual. Khaki's, polo type shirt, clean cut and well groomed (BTW pinays prefer a clean shaven face. No goaties, or beards). Something you have to remember is. You get a different mix of girls in pickup bars. Students, nurses, professionals, even the occasional attorney who doesnt have alot of clients and needs a little extra $$$. Trust me when I tell you these types of girls won't look twice at you if you're dressed like a slob. In that respect, all women all over the world are the same-they want a well dressed, well groomed guy. Yes you will be a little more uncomfortable due to heat, BUT. When you get your girl, whoever it is, you'll be taking a shower when you get back to your room anyway. So it doesnt really matter.
Something else not mentioned in this post is freebies. There are several BIG malls close to these areas. I'm mostly familiar with Robinson's in Malate, as I usually stay within walking distance of here (its also walking distance to LA Cafe et al). I have had pretty good luck there with sales ladies and ladies just strolling the mall. Of course this requires you grab a throw away cell when you land, but its cheap and WELL worth it. Simply give the girl your number and wait for her to text you. Be careful though-you MUST be discreet when doing this! The last thing an employer wants is their staff hitting on customers. One thing about the PI is. Customer service even in mall type stores is AMAZING. The girls will follow you around (if you show interest) and help you with your needs. It is in this time you chit chat and see if theres a chemistry. I recommend having some slips of paper with your name and number on it prior to going to the mall. Simply don't draw attention to it, and slip her the paper. She'll get the idea. Ask her when she gets off. When she tells you, I usually say something like (well, maybe you don't have plans). And give her a genuine smile. She'll get it. As long as your not an asshole, she'll text you and you can take it from there.
Now, the success of getting a freebie in bed is lower, of course, but you just have to make that determination when your chatting with her what the chances are. Unfortunately theres no surefire way to know. It's a crapshoot. But I will tell you this. Its worth it.
Anyway. Just my 2 pesos To steal someone else's quote (I can't remember where I saw it): It's not whether or not you will get laid. It's by whom.
Hi devil1,
nice report. My hunting area is mostly ac, cause I allways leave Manila for the weekend. Billboard club sounds interesting for me. Im on site so I will sure give it a try to find out whats goin on there. Im sure the prettiest ladys will get my cp numbers...but if they all stuck up, no problem, pussy is evrywhere.... :D
Happy hunting and thanks for the good info on Makati..
Blink
Hi Wizard,
Here is my take on the Makati scene. I have been to the Fils 4 times in the last 9 months. Mainly because I cant believe how much hot pussy is available at a reasonable price.
There are many places to go within a 20 minute drive of Makati:.....
Good shit man. I live in this mecca of pussy and couldn't have wrote this to save my life truth be told though I don't monger here much Its hard trying to convince my ole lady why I need to be out at night :)
Good shit man. I live in this mecca of pussy and couldn't have wrote this to save my life truth be told though I don't monger here much Its hard trying to convince my ole lady why I need to be out at night :)
whats the point of gettin married in the Phils? If I need somebdy to talk I talk with my friend...if I want to go out and explore makati, edsa, la cafe I just go...I dont wana end up sitting at jollebhees with my wife and 20 other pinoys who happen to be her family and pay for all those suckers :D
Just my 2 cent
Blink
PS maybe i should try billboard tonight....
whats the point of gettin married in the Phils? If I need somebdy to talk I talk with my friend...if I want to go out and explore makati, edsa, la cafe I just go...I dont wana end up sitting at jollebhees with my wife and 20 other pinoys who happen to be her family and pay for all those suckers :D
Just my 2 cent
Blink
PS maybe i should try billboard tonight....
I have long time girlfriend blink might as well be married the way she is treated but legally and I am free as a church on Tuesday. Obviously she has something going for her to keep a young guy with expendable cash around.
Hi devil1,
nice report. My hunting area is mostly ac, cause I allways leave Manila for the weekend. Billboard club sounds interesting for me. Im on site so I will sure give it a try to find out whats goin on there. Im sure the prettiest ladys will get my cp numbers...but if they all stuck up, no problem, pussy is evrywhere.... :D
BlinkI think I have maybe mis-spoke here. It is hard sometimes to look past the hype and the pretty wondow dressing. To clear it up, Billboard is not a good place to get laid. In fact they really are not in the business of selling pussy. For s seasoned monger you know how ridiculous this sounds. They are more in the business of selling a pretty good show and a lot of drinks based on the allusion of sex. From all the times I have been there, when it really gets down to barfining one of the girls they are not that interested. They press you really hard to buy drinks for everybody and anybody and they show you a really good time while you are doing it. Take it from me, I learned a 5000 peso lesson in Billboard one night by falling for their allusion that they all loved me and couldn’t wait to screw my brains out. Go to this club to start your evening and get “warmed up” then go to Flamingo or really any other bar to find the girl you want to barfine. Otherwise you will end up with a Billboard girl who thinks she is doing you a favor by taking your LT money for un-interested ST sex!
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